Dec 07, 2022 Commissioners Court - Regular

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TO CALL THEM TO LET THEM KNOW WE ARE GETTING STARTED AND WE HAVE

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AARON BEASLEY. WELCOME.

AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US A PRAYER THIS MORNING.

>> YES, MA'AM. FATHER, WE JUST COME TO YOU AT THE BEGINNING OF A NEW DAY. AND JUST EXCITED FOR ALL THE POSSIBILITIES THAT IT HOLDS. WE COME TO YOU BROKEN PEOPLE IN A BROKEN WORLD AND WE JUST CONFESS OUR SHORTCOMINGS TO YOU.

AND WE JUST TRUST YOU AS THE ONE TRUE GOOD AND JUST.

AND ALSO THE GIVER OF ALL GOOD THINGS.

AND SO WE JUST PRAY THIS MORNING THAT YOU WILL GIVE US WHOLENESS, THAT YOU WILL JUST SHOWER US WITH YOUR PEACE LIKE A BLANKET.

THAT YOU WILL BRING MINDS AND HEARTS TOGETHER AS THEY DO BUSINESS OF THE DAY. THAT YOU WOULD JUST LET THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE OF OUR COMMUNITY JUST RISE TO THE FOREFRONT. AND AS WE -- OF THIS COURT, JUST LEAN INTO THAT BUSINESS FOR THE DAY THAT YOU WOULD JUST HELP EVERYBODY WORK IN ONE ACCORD AND TO WORK TOWARD NOT ONLY JUST THE MUNDANE MATTERS OF THE DAY, BUT THE TASKS THAT NEED TO BE RESTORED. AND THE BROKENNESS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT NEED TO BE DEALT WITH, GOD.

WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD JUST BE HERE IN AN EXTRA SPECIAL WAY WITH THIS COURT TODAY. THAT YOUR HOPE, THAT YOUR LOVE, THAT YOUR PEACE, THAT YOUR JOY, THEY WILL ABOUND EVEN AS YOUR REGULAR TASKS ARE DISCUSSED THAT YOU WILL BE GLORIFIED.

WE PRAY THIS IN JESUS'S NAME. AMEN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND J US FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE

AND INDIVISIBLE. >>JUDGE CANALES: SO I WILL NOTE FOR THE CLERK TODAY IS DECEMBER 7, 2022.

OF COURSE WE ARE AT NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE ON THE THIRD FLOOR OF NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT ROOM AT 901 NORTH LEOPARD. WE HAVE A QUORUM ESTABLISHED.

HERNANDEZ, GONZALEZ, CHESNEY AND MYSELF ARE HERE.

WHEN COMMISSIONER MAREZ JOINS US, I WILL NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT HE HAS EITHER COME IN BY ZOOM OR IN PERSON.

I AM SORRY I JUST NOTICED HE WILL BE ON ZOOM, SO LET'S LOOK FOR HIM WHEN HE JOINS. AND WE WILL NOTE THAT FOR THE RECORD. I DID NOT NOTE THE TIME, LORENZO BUT I AM CALLING IT AT 8:40 A.M. WHEN WE BEGAN.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL LOOK FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS OF DISCLOSURES OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST OR APPEARANCE OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST WITH ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT SHALL BE DECLARED AT THIS I'M.

MEMBERS OF CONFLICTS ARE REFRAINED FROM VOTING AND ASKED TO REFRAIN ON DISCUSSION FROM SUCH ITEMS. IF A CONFLICT IS DISCOVERED LATER IN THE MEETING IT WILL BE DISCLOSED AT THAT TIME. ARE THERE ANY THAT NEED TO BE TURNED IN OR AFFIDAVITS FILLED OUT AT THIS TIME?

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>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS.

WE ARE MEETING AT THE THIRD FLOOR OF THE NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE AT 901 LEOPARD STREET.

REST ROOMS RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE THIRD-FLOOR ATRIUM PAST THE COURT ROOM AND THE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE.

A FIRE EXTINGUISHER NOTED AT THE REAR OF THE COURT ROOM.

IN ADDITION FIVE FIRE EXTINGUISHERS ALONG THE ATRIUM.

IN THE EVENT OF A CARDIAC EMERGENCY, AN AUTOMATIC DEFIBRILLATOR NEXT TO THE ATRIUM WALL NEXT TO THE HUMAN RESOURCES. THE PARTICIPANT RESPONSIBLE TO BE CALLING 911 IS CONNIE IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY.

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SHOULD THERE BE A NEED TO SHELTER IN PLACE, COURT ATTENDEES WILL REMAIN IN THE COURT ROOM.

DEPENDING ON THE SEVERITY OF THE INCIDENT, THE COURT ROOM'S DOUBLE DOORS WILL BE SECURED AND REMAIN SECURED UNTIL INFORMATION FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

OUR SHERIFF SAFETY TOPIC FOR THE TODAY IS DECEMBER IS NATIONAL

[F. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]

BRIEFING, YOUR HONOR. >>JUDGE CANALES: AND I THANK YOU FOR IT. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. AND I WOULD REMIND EVERYBODY THAT I HAVE GOT A SIGN-UP SHEET, SO IF YOU DIDN'T GET A CHANCE, PLEASE LET US KNOW AND WE WILL PUT OF THIS IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM. AND RON, GOOD MORNING.

GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE MICROPHONE.

YOU DID SIGN UP FIRST. JUST REMEMBER TO ANNOUNCE YOUR ADDRESS. YOU KNOW YOUR NAME, ADDRESS FOR

THE CLERK AND FOR THOSE ONLINE. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

RON TRIBEN, 202 SURFSIDE IN NORTH BEACH.

AND 50I78 THE PRESIDENT OF THE NORTH BEACH COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION. A PRESSURE TO BE HERE WITH ALL OF YOU. I WANT TO ADDRESS THE BREAKWATER ISSUE. I KNOW THERE IS FUNDING THAT IS AVAILABLE. AND HOPEFULLY WE ARE GOING TO VOTE ON THAT AND SECURE THE $15 MILLION THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR THE PROJECT IN NORTH BEACH.

NOT ONLY AM I A PRESIDENT, BUT A RESIDENT THERE, HOMEOWNER AND I AM BUILDING A BRAND-NEW HOME ON THE BEACH.

THE OLD-TIMERS TELL ME THE BEACH WAS A LOT FURTHER OUT BEFORE AND NOW IT IS ERODING AWAY. I THINK COMMON SENSE TELLS US WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. WE CAN'T KEEP DOING THE NOURISHMENT PROGRAM. THE FIRST TIME TO MY KNOWLEDGE THAT MONEY HAS BEEN ALLOCATED TO THIS REGARD THAT WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. WE ASK -- I ASK THAT YOU TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY AND PROTECT OUR BEACHES. THERE IS A BRAND-NEW PARK THAT THE CITY IS PUTTING IN NEXT TO ME CALLED SURFSIDE PARK.

THEY ARE GOING TO REDO IT. IT WILL BE BEAUTIFUL FOR THE CHILDREN, BUT IF WITH HE A BREAKWATER OUT THERE, IT WILL BE WELL PROTECTED AGAINST ANY TYPE OF STORM SURGES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND WE DO HOPE THAT YOU WILL NOT ONLY APPROVE THIS, BUT APPROVE THE AMOUNTS AND NOT REDUCE ANY AMOUNTS THAT WILL BE ALLOCATED FOR THAT PROJECT ON NORTH BEACH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, SIR.

THE NEXT PERSON WILL BE MISS CARRIE MEYER.

>> GOOD MORNING, COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND COUNTY JUDGE.

MY NAME IS CARRIE MEYER. I LIVE AT 4401 GULF BREEZE BOULEVARD ON NORTH BEACH AND I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE BREAKWATER PROJECT -- THE LIVING BREAKWATER PROJECT.

I HAVE GIVEN TO THE WOMAN IN BLACK A PIECE OF PAPER TO HAND OUT -- SORRY -- TO HAND OUT TO ALL OF YOU GUYS WHEREVER -- DURING THE DAY, A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM NORTH BEACH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION. I AM THE SECRETARY.

RON IS THE PRESIDENT, LIKE HE SAID, AND LYNN HERE AND ANN ARE MEMBERS. THAT LETTER OF SUPPORT IS ACTUALLY NOT DATED TODAY. IT IS DATED, I BELIEVE, 2019 OR 2018 AND JUST SHOWS HOW LONG OUR GROUP HAS BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT. IT IS NOT A NEW IDEA.

IN FACT I THINK WE -- OUR GROUP KIND OF CAME UP WITH IT IN ABOUT 2010 BY THINKING -- BY LOOKING OVER AT DOWNTOWN.

I MEAN WE ARE ON NORTH BEACH LOOKING OVER AT DOWNTOWN SAYING LOOK AT THAT BREAKWATER OVER THERE.

SUSPECT THAT NICE WHEN THE STORMS COME IN AND THE SHIP WAKES HIT, THEY ARE NOT AFFECTED LIKE WE ARE.

AND YOU KNOW LEADERS A LONG TIME AGO DECIDED TO BUILD THAT BREAKWATER AROUND THE DOWNTOWN SEAWALL AND PROTECT THEIR INVESTMENT. AND I ALSO JUST WANTED TO SAY I GO TO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS A LOT BECAUSE SO MANY ISSUES ON NORTH BEACH ARE CITY RELATED AND THE CITY HAS BEEN DOING A LOT OF STUFF FOR NORTH BEACH LATELY AND POSITIVE ABOUT THAT.

I DON'T COME TO COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETINGS BECAUSE NOT OFTEN NORTH BEACH COMES UP ON YOUR AGENDA.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING DIRECTLY FOR THE CITY -- THE PEOPLE OF NORTH BEACH, YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND ALL THE TOURIST WHO COME TO OUR CITY AS WELL AS ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE, ALL THE PEOPLE WHO OWN BUSINESSES THERE. AND SO IT'S -- IT IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DO FOR US AND SO I AM REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THIS EXCITING OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU HAVE.

AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO FOLLOW THROUGH AND GO AHEAD AND USE

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$14 MILLION AND $15 MILLION TO DO THIS PROJECT.

IF YOU REDUCE THAT NUMBER, WE DON'T KNOW IF IT IS GOING TO BE POSSIBLE TO EVEN DO THE PROJECT. WELL, WE WILL DO HALF OF IT, YOU NKNOW THE CITY FUNDED THE $250,000 STUDY BY MOTT MCDONALD AND THE CITY'S INVESTMENT IN THIS.

IT IS NOT A CITY ISSUE AND NOT IN CITY LAND.

IT IS OUT IN THE WATER. ANYWAY, I WANT TO THANK ALL OF Y'ALL FOR BRING IT THIS FAR AND GO AHEAD AND SEND IT ACROSS THAT TOUCHDOWN LINE. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. MR. PETER DAVIDSON.

>> HONORABLE JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

PETER DAVIDSON, REPRESENTING THE ED ROCHELLE FOUNDATION AND MARINE CONSULTANT. I WISH TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ FOR DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY AND ESPECIALLY JUDGE CANALES, WHO HAS BEEN HARD AT WORK ASSISTING US IN DOING PROJECTS WITH MANY OT OTHERS. IN 1901, 1900, THERE WAS A LARGE HURRICANE THAT DEVASTATED GALVESTON AND THEY BUILT A 17-FOOT SEAWALL. IN 1919, THERE WAS A HURRICANE THAT DEVASTATED THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI.

AND. 1925, THEY BUILT THAT ROUGH BREAKWATER. FOUND AN ARCHITECT THAT BUILT AND DESIGNED MOUNT RUSHMORE CAME IN 1928 AND DESIGNED A SEAWALL AND THAT SAT ON A SHELF. IN 1937, PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT AND THE WORK PROGRAMS DECIDED TO HELP BUILD THAT.

AND THIS PROJECT, BREAKWATER TO PROTECT NORTH BEACH IS SO IMPORTANT AND IT IS AKIN TO THOSE PROJECTS.

IT STRETCHES ABOUT 1.6 MILES AND STARTS BY THE USS LEXINGTON TO PROTECT OUR HISTORIC AREA AND MOVES NORTHWARD.

NORTH BEACH ON THE HANDOUT IS ONE OF THE FIRST PLACES WHERE GENERAL -- ZACHARY TAYLOR CAME AND CAMPED ON THE BEACH.

IT WAS THE FIRST PLACE THE UNITED STATES FLAG WAS FLOWN HERE ON NORTH BEACH. AND IT IS VERY HISTORIC.

NORTH BEACH WITH THE LEXINGTON AND THE AQUARIUM HAS 550,000 VISITOR AS YEAR AND NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED INCLUDING THE BUSINESSES AND ALL THE RES RESIDENTS.

THE FOUNDATION HAS PARTNERED WITH THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND THE PERMITTING IS UNDER WAY. THE OTHER PARTNERS IN IT HAVE BEEN THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, WHO HAVE HELPED WITH THE ENGINEERING DESIGN AND I HAVE TO THANK COMMISSIONER GULLEY FOR BEING HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT AS THE PORT COMMISSIONER.

WE WORK WITH THE HEART RESEARCH INSTITUTE, THE NORTH BEACH COMMUNITY, ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS LIKE THE USS LEXINGTON.

WE HAVE A SHOVEL-READY PROJECT THAT IS READY TO GO.

AND AS SOON AS FUNDING IS APPROVED AND THE PER FIT IS COMPLETE WHICH IS NOW UNDER WAY WE ARE BEGIN THIS PROJECT AND PROTECT THE HISTORY AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF NORTH BEACH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, SIR.

MR. LYNN FRAZIER. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE CANALES.

>>JUDGE CANALES: YES, THANK YOU. >> GREAT TO BE HERE THIS MORNING. I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT -- MY NAME IS LYNN FRAZIER.

LIVE AT 713 SNUG HARBOR ON NORTH BEACH.

I MOVED HERE TO CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS, IN THE YEAR 2000 SOME I LIVED IN CORPUS FOR 22 YEARS. BEFORE I MOVED HERE, I TRAVELED THE WORLD, I DID FOR 18 YEARS. I HAVE BEEN TO AUSTRALIA, NEW ZEALAND, INDONESIA, CHINA, JAPAN, MIDDLE EAST, WEST AFRICA, VENEZUELA, BRAZIL, MEXICO. I HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE, SIX OF THE SEVEN CONTINENTS ANYWAY, SO I HAVE SEEN FIRST HAND HOW THE WORLD WORKS AROUND THE GLOBE.

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WE WANT THINGS TO BUILD UP SO WE CAN SEE THINGS, MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR ALL OF US AND I WOULD LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT OF THE NORTH BEACH COMMUNITY HERE IN CORPUS.

LIKE I SAID I AM FINANCIALLY AND EMOTIONALLY INVESTED IN CORPUS CHRISTI. I OWN 6,000-SQUARE-FOOT OFFICE BASES FOUR ACRES, 150,000-SQUARE-FEET OF OFFICES ON FOUR ACRES ON BEXAR LANE. REBUILT THE CHAMBERLAIN DOWNTOWN AT UPPER BROADWAY AND THE WHOLE HEB BUILDING AND FAJITAVILLE AND HOTEL D[L]EVIL SITTING OUT ON THREE ACRES AND FURTHER UP THE BEACH, FIVE ACRES OF RAW LAND AND BEACHFRONT AND MARINAVILLE THAT I LEASE FROM TXDOT ON NUECES BAY AND FINISHING UP LIGHTHOUSE POINT ON NUECES BAY.

BESIDE THE HARBOR AND I OWN A COUPLE OF OTHER RENTAL PROPERTIES THERE. HOW INVESTED I AM IN CORPUS AND HOW MUCH I LOVE THIS TOWN. I AM WANTING AND WISHING THIS AREA TO IMPROVE. THIS IS THE VERY REASON WHY I'M HERE TALKING TO YOU GUYS I WANT SO BADLY TO IMPROVE OUR NORTH BEACH AREA. BUILDING OUR PROPOSED BREAKWATER ISLANDS FOR NORTH BEACH WILL HELP IT SO MUCH.

IN FAJITAVILLE, THE ONE TO TWO-FOOT WAVESS CHURNING AND WASHING OUR SAND AWAY. WHAT IS WORSE IS WHEN THE SHIPS COME IN AND OUT OF OUR PORT THROWS OUT THIS ONE TO TWO-FOOT WAVE. WHEN THEY ARE COMING INTO TO OUR WORLD-RENOWNED CORPUS CHRISTI PORT.

BUILDING A HUGE BRIDGE -- TXDOT IS, TO ALLOW MUCH BIGGER SHIPS TO ENTER AND LEAVE OUR PORT WHICH IS AWESOME.

GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND EVERYTHING.

NORTH BEACH, THE AQUARIUM, LEXINGTON, CONDOS AND HOUSING NEED PROTECTION FROM THE MUCH LARGER WAVES AND BEACH EROSION THAT ARE ABOUT TO HAPPEN. THIS NEW TRAFFIC WILL PREVENT THAT AND YOU CAN IMAGINE A SHIP OF A SIZE WILL PUSH THAT WAKE OUT. WE REALLY GOT TO WATCH THAT.

AS WE ALL KNOW, A HUGE AMOUNT OF BEACH EROSION -- WE WILL HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT WITH THESE BIGGER SHIPS AND INCREASED TRAFFIC AND IT WILL GET MUCH, MUCH WORSE AND THIS THE EASY PROBLEM TO FIX WITH THE PROPOSED BREAKWATER AND BREAKWATER ISLANDS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. WHEN OUR PROPOSAL -- AND WITH OUR PROPOSAL, THIS WILL PROTECT ALL OF NORTH BEACH POPULATION AS WELL AS GIVE US A VERY ATTRACTIVE COASTLINE FOR EVERYONE LIVING ON AND COMING TO NORTH BEACH TO ADMIRE AND APPRECIATE. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR YOUR TIME. I REALLY HOPE WE GET THIS ALL PASSED AND GET ENOUGH MONEY IN HERE TO GET -- MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND MAKE OUR CITY NICE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. DR. XAVIER GONZALEZ.

GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. TODAY I AM COMING MORE OF AN ADVOCATE FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. AND JUST REALLY HIGHLIGHTING SOME GOOD THINGS THAT ARE BEING DONE AND WILL BE DONE BEFORE THE -- BEFORE THE UPCOMING HOLIDAYS. AS WE ALTHOUGH, HOLIDAYS CAN BE A LITTLE BIT STRESSFUL, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO MENTAL HEALTH. SO WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT AND WHAT I HAVE HERE IS BASICALLY SOME CARDBOARD SIGNS THAT THE SHERRIFF'S OFFICE HAS -- HAS PRINTED OUT AND MADE AVAILABLE AND THAT THE -- THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROGRAMS IS WORKING WITH HIM TO MAKE SURE THESE SIGNS GET SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

THAT WAY THERE IS AWARENESS TO WHAT AVAILABLE RESOURCES THERE ARE TO BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I REALLY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT TO Y'ALL AND TO THOSE IN THE ROOM AND TO THOSE WHO ARE ONLINE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE PROGRAMS OUT THERE IF SOMEONE NEEDS HELP. AND TO HAVE THOSE HERE.

NOT EVERYBODY IS ON THERE OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE A LOT OF SIGNS. BUT A QR CODE THAT GIVES ACCESS TO THE DIFFERENT NUMBERS OF THE SERVICES TO THAT ARE OUT THERE.

TODAY MORE OF A HIGHLIGHT THAT OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS DOING GOOD THINGS AND TRYING TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.

SO, THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU SO

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JJ -- >> YOUR HONOR.

AND YOU AND THEN I WILL SPEAK Y FOR JJ IN JUST A MOMENT.

>> I AM BRIAN GULLY, I AM -- ACTUALLY I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE COASTAL BEND ESTUARIES AND PORT COMMISSIONER FOR THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI. I KIND OF AGREE WITH EVERYTHING I HEARD SO FAR. I THINK THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT. I ACTUALLY WAS INVOLVED WITH RENURSING THAT BEACH ONE TIME MANY YEARS AGO.

IT WAS A VERY EXPENSIVE PROJECT. WHAT THIS WILL DO -- WE HAVEN'T REALLY STRESSED THAT VERY MUCH, BUT IT WILL HELP PROTECT THE EROSION ON THAT BEACH AND SAVE THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THE FUTURE OF NOT HAVING TO RENURSE THE BEACHES OFTEN. IT WILL ALSO PROTECT THE LEXINGTON HAVING SCOURING ISSUES.

THE PORT VERY MUCH IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.

AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE ON THIS AND GET THE SCIENTISTS INVOLVED AND TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE GOT EVERYTHING PREPARED TO LOCK IN THIS MONEY SO WE HAVE THIS MONEY TO USE.

SO WE ARE PREPARED TO WORK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WITH BAYS AND ESTUARIES, WITH THE SCIENTISTS AND ALL THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS TO TRY TO BRING THE CITY IN BECAUSE I THINK THEY SHOULD PARTICIPATE IN THIS AS WELL AND ALL WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS DEADLINE OF FEBRUARY 21. THAT IS OUR ONLY CONCERN.

WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.

A GREAT PROJECT. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANYBODY ELSE? YES, SIR.

PLEASE. CAPTAIN, WELCOME.

>> DANIEL PETIS. CHIEF DEPUTY OF ADMINISTRATION FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND JUST TO KIND OF RESOUND WHAT DR.

GONZALEZ WAS SAYING. THESE BOARDS THAT WE PUT UP, THOSE WERE AN IDEA THAT WAS BROUGHT BACK FROM THE COUNTY MANAGEMENT AND RISK CONFERENCE THAT I ATTENDED EARL YEAR THIS YEAR. BECAUSE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CORRECTION IS NOT NECESSARILY CONSIDERED I GUESS A FACTOR WITH EN WE DEAL WITH HEALTH SERVICES OR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.

WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE WE ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM MEETING THESE TYPE OF SERVICES SO I GOT WITH A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THERE AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT COMPILED THIS LIST AND PUT IT ON OUR SHERRIFF'S APP.

ON THE SHERRIFF'S WEB SITE. SO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED LIKE DR. GONZALEZ WAS SAYING, THIS IS A LIVING DOCUMENT.

IF YOU GO TO OUR GOOGLE PLAY STORE OR THE APPLE STORE AND DOWN LOAD THE SHERRIFF'S APP, THE SAME RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE. A LIVING DOCUMENT THAT WILL BE CHANGED FREQUENTLY. AS SOON AS WE POSTED THEM WE WERE RECEIVING FEEDBACK THAT WE LEFT SOMEONE OUT.

WE WILL HAVE THESE AS A LIVING DOCUMENT SO THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY ALL THE STAFF THAT MAY LIVE HERE OR VISITING HERE. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? I WILL PROCEED. I -- MY ITEM IS REFLECTED OF A REALLY PROUD MOMENT FOR BOTH NUECES COUNTY, OUR JURISDICTIONS INSIDE NUECES COUNTY INCLUDING OUR BIG CITIES LIKE CORPUS CHRISTI AND OUR SMALL ONES AND INCLUDES CLAYBURG COUNTY.

WE HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR AWARDED 18 AMERICAN COMMUNITIES WITH THE DISTINCTION OF BEING A WORLD WAR II HERITAGE CITY. AND WE HAVE THAT LOCATION.

ONLY ONE LOCATION IN EVERY STATE CAN RECEIVE THIS DESIGNATION, THIS TITLE. WE APPLIED FOR THIS THROUGH A TREMENDOUS EFFORT THAT WAS COLLABORATIVE.

I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, AS WE DID YESTERDAY, THE INCREDIBLE HISTORIANS WE HAVE IN NUECES COUNTY, BOTH FROM THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI WHO ALREADY HAD COMPILED -- NINA HAD COMPILED

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THIS DESIGNATION HAS A TREMENDOUS IMPACT NOT JUST FOR HISTORY BUFFS, BUT WILL HAVE A RIPPLE EFFECT FOR ECONOMICS HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY PEOPLE WILL COME LIKE THEY DO UNESCO SITES ALL OVER THE WORLD AND THEY WANT TO COME AND SEE WHY THIS LOCATION HELD SUCH IMPORTANCE IN WORLD WAR II.

IF YOU LOVE THE HISTORY OF PORT ARANSUS, WE HAD INCREDIBLE MUNITIONS IN PORT A. AND WE HAD GERMAN U-2 BOATS NOT THAT FAR OFF IN THE GULF OF MEXICO.

OUR WAR EFFORTS FROM BONDS TO GARDENS -- VICTORY GARDENS, THE GIRLS WHO SOLD THE WAR BONDS. IT'S JUST -- JUST AN AMAZING STORY. WE BOMBED AS A COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF OUR WORLD WAR II HERITAGE. WANT TO SAY THERE WILL BE A LOGO AROUND THE COMMUNITY AND I SPOKE WITH MANAGER ZANONE AND HE WILL ASK VISIT CORPUS CHRISTI TO BE A PART OF THAT CELEBRATION AS WELL AS OUR OWN -- IT'S ON OUR VETERANS PAGE, I BELIEVE, UNDER NUECESCO.COM AND LOOK UNDER VETERANS AND LOOK AT THE ACTION.

AN IMPORTANT HONOR FOR US TO RECEIVE.

AND I HOPE THAT WHEN THE DECALS GET PRINTED YOU WILL GET ONE FOR YOUR CAR AND PROUDLY DISPLAY WHAT IT TRULY MEANS TO HONOR THE SACRIFICES OF THE GREATEST GENERATION.

TODAY IS PEARL HARBOR DAY. I THINK IT COULDN'T BE MORE FITTING TO CELEBRATE THIS DESIGNATION TODAY OF ALL DAYS.

SO THE DAY DOESN'T JUST LIVE IN INFAMY, BUT LIVES AS A TESTAMENT WHAT OUR FREEDOM HAVE DOS US. PLEASE JOIN ME IF WE CAN IF WE FINISH ON TIME AT 2:00 ON THE LEXINGTON AT 10 A.M. THIS MORNING IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE IN THIS COURT ROOM, GO TO CHERYL PARK FOR THE PEARL HARBOR CELEBRATION AND REMEMBRANCE.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER JJ DECERA. SCOTT CROSS, WHO ACTUALLY BROUGHT FORTH -- BECAUSE IT CAME OUT OF NATIONAL PARKS.

COASTAL PARKS PEGGED IT FIRST. ANYWAY, AN AMAZING COLLABORATION AND CLAYBURG COUNTY IS OVERJOYED AS I AM TO MAKE THIS A PART OF OUR NEW -- OUR NEW LIVING HISTORY.

WITH SO THAT, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS ON WORLD WAR II AND I WILL ASK IF THERE IS ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY, GREAT. THEN WE WILL PROCEED.

[1. In recognition of December 8, 2022 as "Special Hearts Day".]

I KNOW SHERRY, YOU ARE HERE WITH YOUR SPECIAL GROUP.

AND WE WILL GIVE YOU A MOMENT TO ADDRESS US.

BELINDA. >> WHEREAS, SPECIAL HEARTS IN THE ARTS PROVIDE INDIVIDUALS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE ART, MUSIC, DANCE AND THEATRE WHICH GIVES OUR COMMUNITY THE GIFT OF EXPERIENCING THE UNIQUE AND SPECIAL ABILITIES EACH TALENTED SPECIAL HEART EXPRESSES WITH JOY. WHEREAS, SPECIAL HEARTS DAY ALLOW SPECIAL HURTS IN THE ARTS A COMMUNITY PLATFORM TO SHARE THEIR GIFT TO THE WORLD THROUGH THEIR OWN UNIQUE ABILITIES.

THEIR REJOICE IN NOT JUST ONE SPECIAL ABILITY BUT ALL SPECIAL AGENTS WHETHER IT BE IN SPORTS, FINE ARTS, OR OTHER UNIQUE GIFTS THAT EACH SPECIAL HEART PROUDLY AND UNSELFISHLY OFFERS.

SPECIAL HEARTS DAY ALLOWS EVERYONE TO EMBRACE A REALITY THAT FOCUSES ON SPECIAL ABILITIES INSTEAD OF DISABILITIES. AND WHEREAS, SPECIAL HEARTS DAY IS A CELEBRATION OF SPECIAL HEARTS, FAMILY VOLUNTEERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT PROVIDE OUR COUNTY THE OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT SPECIAL HEARTS ARE REMARKABLE CONTRIBUTORS TO THE GREATNESS OF OUR COMMUNITY. SPECIAL HURTS DAY CELEBRATES THE BLESSING AND GIFT OF EACH SPECIAL HEART IN OUR WONDERFUL COMMUNITY. NOW, THEREFORE, IT BE PROCLAIMED, THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF NUECES COUNTY DOES HEARBY FORMALLY DESIGNATE DECEMBER 8, 2022 AS

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SPECIAL HEARTS DAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

ALMOST EVERY DAY IS SPECIAL HEARTS DAY.

BUT SHERRY, CAN YOU COME UP, WE HAVE THIS RECOGNITION MEMORIALIZED. IS THERE A MOTION TO PASS SUCH A

RECOGNITION TODAY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO M

MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: A SECOND HER

HERNANDEZ SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL CALL ON

SHERRY TO HAVE DISCUSSION. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US. JUDGE CANALES, COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT THIS YEAR TOO. IT IS A LITTLE HARD TO RUN A NONPROFIT AND STAY ABOVE BOARD AND YOU GUY HAVE STEPPED UP AND HELPED US VARIOUS TIMES WITH YOUR GIFTS AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. SOME NEWS OF SPECIAL HEARTS.

IN THIS LAST YEAR, WE HAVE BEEN GROWING VERY FAST.

WE HAVE PERFORMED ALL OVER THE CITY FOR DIFFERENT EVENTS.

WE GOT TO SEE YOU FOURTH OF JULY.

AT ONE OF OUR EVENTS BUT OUR SPECIAL HEARTS ARE GROWING IN STRENGTH AND CONFIDENCE AND SHARING THEIR TALENTS WITH OTHERS. ANA LISA IS ONE OF OUR SPECIAL HEARTS HERE AND WE WILL LET HER SAY WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT

SPECIAL HURTS. >>JUDGE CANALES: HI, ANA LISA.

>> WE DO DANCE AND ART, SING, AND HAVE FUN WITH OUR FRIENDS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT SOUNDS WONDERFUL.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD.

>> WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE THING TO DO?

>> DANCING. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S GREAT.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: MINE TOO.

>> SHE IS VERY GOOD AT IT AND HELPS TEACH SOME OF THE OTHER KIDS A LOT OF TIME ON DANCING. AND YOUR PROCLAMATION WAS PERFECT WHERE YOU SAID THEY HAVE SPECIAL ABILITIES, NOT DISABILITIES. AND THAT IS WHAT WE ALWAYS POINT OUT. I THINK EVERY PERSON IN THE WORLD HAS A DISABILITY, SO I POINT OUT THE DISABILITIES.

WE ALL HAVE SPECIAL ABILITIES ALSO.

WE SO APPRECIATE IT. WE HAVE ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS HERE. I KNOW HE DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK, BUT THANK YOU FOR COMING. OR DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? OKAY. BUT I APPRECIATE THE BOARD MEMBERS AND ALL THAT. WE MOVED RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM YOU. WE ARE 823 TONCLA RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE POST OFFICE. SO WE HAVE A NEW HOME THAT WE JUST MOVED INTO THIS LAST WEEK. YOU ARE WELCOME TO DROP BY ANY

TIME TO VISIT, OKAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU SO

MUCH. >> THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU

AND MERRY CHRISTMAS. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU TOO AS WELL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. WE HAVE THIS RECOGNITION SIGNED BY EVERYBODY BUT COMMISSIONER MAREZ.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A PHOTO WITH US.

>> HE WAS OUR COMMISSIONER. IS IS HE OKAY?

>>JUDGE CANALES: HE IS NOT WITH US TODAY, BUT I AM WONDER GOING MAYBE WE WILL SIGN IT AND DELIVER IT SINCE YOU ARE SO CLOSE BY. DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A GOOD PLAN? BUT WE CAN TAKE OUR PICTURE

RIGHT NOW. >> YAY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. LET'S DO THAT.

I WILL COME DOWN AND YOU GUYS CAN STAND WITH US RIGHT HERE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SHE IS A GOOD PICTURE TAKER.

>> TAKE ONE STEP THIS WAY. PERFECT.

ONE, TWO, THREE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

GOOD JOB. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL DO THE MINUTES VERY QUICKLY AND THEN I

[1. November 16, 2022 November 18, 2022]

H IS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 16 AND NOVEMBER 18.

AND I WILL ASK IF YOU ALREADY REVIEWED THEM.

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A MOTION TO APPROVE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO

MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: IS THERE A

SECOND? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SECOND.

>>JUDGE CANALES: SECOND BY GONZALEZ.

ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY.

AND BECAUSE -- BECAUSE D DR. STANCIL IS WITH US AND SHE IS OUT OF TOWN AT AN IMPORTANT EVENT REPRESENTING COASTAL BEND

[5. Discuss and consider adoption of resolution supporting increased state funding for the Coastal Bend Bays and Estuaries Program by the 88th Legislature.]

>> SO MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU WANT TO READ IT. HOW ABOUT THE WHERE AS.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUST A SECOND.

>>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AND A SECOND.

GO AHEAD AND READ IT FOR THE RECORD.

>> I WILL A HE HAD IT QUICKLY. >>JUDGE CANALES: IF IT IS TOO LOO LONG, YOU KNOW HOW TO CUT IT.

>>THE COASTAL BEND BAYS AND ESTUARIES ARE RESTORING AND PROTECTING THE BAYS AND ESTUARIES OF THE COASTAL BEND.

RECEIVE PRIVATE AND GOVERNMENTAL FUNDING INCLUDING STATE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY FUNDING.

COASTAL BEND AND BAYS AND ESTAURIES PROGRAM EVER THE COAST BINZ BAYS PLAN TO HEALTHY BAYS TO SUPPORT THE NATIONAL, STATE AND LOCAL ECONOMY. NUECES COUNTY DOES SUPPORT INCREASED FUNDING FOR THE COASTAL BEND BAYS AND ESTAURIES

PROGRAM BY TEXAS LEGISLATURE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

AND DR. STANCIL, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT YOU ARE HAPPY WITH THAT MOTION AND A SECOND BUT ANY COMMENTS OR DR. GULLY.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT I AM JUST CALLING FOR THE DISCUSSION AT

THIS TIME. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS. I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING THERE IN PERSON. I'M THE RESTORE ESTUARYS MEETING. AND I AM JOINING US VIRTUALLY AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY AGAIN TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, REALIZE THAT STATE FUNDING INCREASE FOR OUR PROGRAM. YOU KNOW, WE WORKED ON THIS FOUR YEARS AGO WITH YOU ALL AND GOT PRETTY CLOSE BUT DIDN'T QUITE MAKE IT OVER THE FINISH LINE. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT IDEA HERE IS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE GETTING SUPPORT FROM -- NOT JUST NUECES COUNTY, BUT OTHER -- OTHER, YOU KNOW, LOCAL GOVERNMENT PARTNERS WE HAVE IN THE AREA TO PUSH FORWARD THE STATE FUNDING INCREASE. BUT THIS IS REALLY -- NUECES COUNTY HAS BEEN AN INTEGRAL PART IN LEADING THIS EFFORT AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND THANK THE COMMISSION FOR ALL THEIR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND, YOU KNOW, WE WILL HOPEFULLY SEE THIS

THROUGH THIS TIME. >>JUDGE CANALES: WITH US HERE, DR. STANCIL. BOB HARDSON AND BRIAN GULLY.

>> ONCE AGAIN, DR. BRIAN GULLY, AND I AM HONORED TO SERVE AS THE PRESIDENT FOF THE COASTAL BEND BAYS AND ESTUARIES.

AS PORT COMMISSIONER AND PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI.

WE ARE THE BIGGEST CONTRIBUTOR TO THE OPERATION OF THIS -- VERY GREAT ORGANIZATION. LAST YEAR WE CONTRIBUTED $168,000 THAT TO ORGANIZATION FROM THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND FURNISHED THEM THEIR OFFICE SPACE IN THE OLD PORT BUILDING.

SO WITH THAT, I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO BOB, WHO IS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE COASTAL BEND INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION AND PROBABLY OUR LONGEST-SERVING BOARD MEMBER IN EXISTENCE.

HE HAS BEEN THERE FOREVER. I WILL LET HIM EXPLAIN WHAT THE ORGANIZATION IS AND HOW IT EFFECTS THE COASTAL BEND.

>> THANK YOU, BRIAN. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE WITH YOU THIS MORNING. I AM BOB HOLLISSON, BANDERA DRIVE IN CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS. AS DR. GULLY MENTIONED, I AM DIRECTOR OF THE COASTAL BEND INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION.

THAT IS THE NEW VERSION OF THE ORGANIZATION THAT YOU PROBABLY KNOW -- ASSOCIATE ME WITH PORT INDUSTRIES OF CORPUS CHRISTI.

WE WENT THROUGH A RENAMING AND REBRANDING BUT THE SAME GROUP -- SAME GROUP OF ORGANIZATIONS. PORT INDUSTRIES OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND COASTAL BEND HAS BEEN PARTICIPANTS IN IT THE BAYS AND ESTAURIES PROGRAM SINCE ITS INCEPTION.

AND REALLY IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING JUST A TREMENDOUS WORK THAT THE PROGRAM HAS DONE OVER THE LAST 20-PLUS YEARS.

HERE NOT ONLY IN THE CORPUS CHRISTI BAY AREA BUT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COASTAL BEND. AND DURING THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, IT RECEIVES FUNDING FROM A VARIETY OF SOURCES.

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AND I THINK MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT HAS BEEN AT THE SAME AMOUNT FOR VIRTUALLY THE 20 YEARS THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE.

AND THE -- THE PROGRAM DOES A -- A FANTASTIC JOB OF MAKING BEST USE OF THE FUNDS IT DOES HAVE. BUT IT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY BENEFIT FROM INCREASED FUNDING SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGE ENCOURAGE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: EXCUSE ME, JUDGE, AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE ITEM 7.

>>JUDGE CANALES: NUMBER ONE, WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER 5.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: JUST THOUGHT I WOULD LET YOU KNOW JUDGE I AM NOT GOING TO TAKE OR HEAR ANY MOTIONS UNTIL I CALL ON IT. ITEM NUMBER 5, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY.

[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]

YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMMENT BUT PLEASE E-MAIL ME TO GET THOSE BUTTONS HERE BECAUSE IT MAKES FOR SUCH A -- A MUCH EASIER OPPORTUNITY SINCE I CAN'T SEE RIGHT AND LEFT AT THE SAME TIME.

GO AGAIN, CONSENT AGENDA IS NEXT.

ITEMS A-Q. AND I WILL ASK IF ANY -- COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, YOU SAID YOU HAD ONE.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I HAVE SEVERAL.

I AM GOING TO MOVE TABLE NUMBER I.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALE GONZALEZ: I, O, P, AND J.

>>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S TAKE THIS MOTION FIRST IF THERE IS ANY OTHER, FROM ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT NEED TO BE

REMOVED FROM CLARITY -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, ALSO, THEY NEEDED TO TABLE Q IS ONE OF THE ONES I WAS TOLD.

>>JUDGE CANALES: BUT YOU SAID Q. I DON'T KNOW WHO SAID THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: COUNTY ATTORNEY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: LET ME HEAR FROM HER.

JENNY, DO YOU HAVE ANY TO TABLE BECAUSE APPARENTLY ONLY ONE-WAY COMMUNICATION. I DIDN'T RECEIVE AN E-MAIL REGARD IT. DO YOU NEED ANY TO BE TABLE?

>> THOSE WERE CONTRACTS THAT WERE NOT -- THEY JUST HAVEN'T BEEN REVIEWED YET. SO THAT'S NOT COMPLETE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: HANG ON FOR A SECOND.

LET'S DO THE EASY PART. ANY OTHERS THAT NEED TO BE PULLED FOR CLARIFICATION. LET'S DO THIS CORRECTLY.

LET'S DO THE ONES THAT ARE NOT PULLED ARE A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,K ANDM. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE --

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: GIVE ME A

SECOND, PLEASE. >> YOU MIGHT WANT TO PULL F TO HAVE DISCUSSION ON TWO OF THE BONDS THAT ARE NOT COMPLETELY

SIGNED. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S CORRECT.

I AM SORRY. THAT CAME -- THAT CAME TO ME TOO. THAT CAME TO ME AS WELL.

I HAVE THAT NOTE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF F ON ITEM COUNTY COURT OF LAW 5, THAT IS NUMBER 10.

AND ALSO ITEM -- WHICH OTHER ONE HAVEN'T BEEN SIGNED.

>> 4. >>JUDGE CANALES: 4, THE COUNTY CLERK. LET'S DO THIS ONE MORE TIME FOR LORENZO. ASKING FOR A MOTION AT THIS TIME ON A-H WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT F HAVE THE EXCLUSIONS OF ITEMS 4 AND 10 AND K,L ANDM AT THIS TIME.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS?

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO MOVED.

>>JUDGE CANALES: SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THEN THERE IS A SECOND.

OKAY. THEN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY

BY SAYING AYE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: AYE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THEN ON ITEM I. I WILL HEAR THAT NOW.

A SOLE SOURCE -- EXCUSE ME, A SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE REGARDING ONE SOLUTION. AND IT IS THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE RENEWALS. IS THERE A QUESTION, CLARITY SITUATION, JENNY, WITH THAT CONTRACT?

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: JUDGE, I MOVED TO TABLE I,J,O,M ANDP.

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>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I MET WITH IT.

I MET WITH NUECES COUNTY ATTORNEY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: COUNTY ATTORNEY, I AM ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION. ARE ANY OF THOSE IN JEOPARDY OF, FOR EXAMPLE, EXPIRATION WHERE THE COUNTY COULD BE IN PERIL RILL. IF NOT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, BUT TO HAVE NO DISCUSSION ON IT WHEN IT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THERE MUST BE A REASON THAT YOU CAN OFFER HERE TO HELP FOR CLARITY FOR THE PEOPLE'S SAKE WHO ARE LISTENING.

>> MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS NO DANGER OF THAT.

THEY CAN BE REVIEWED; HOWEVER, JUDGE, THEY WERE NOT SUBMITTED TO OUR OFFICE IN A TIMELY -- TO GIVE US TIME TO DO THAT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: HAVE YOU ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE WITH THE

DEPARTMENT HEAD. >> YES, WE HAVE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WILL HE BE READY TO SUBMIT ON DECEMBER 14

AGAIN? >> I BELIEVE MOST OF THESE SHOULD BE; HOWEVER, AS YOU ARE AWARE, MANY OF THESE COME WITH VOLUMINOUS ADDITIONS AND ATTACHMENTS THAT SIMPLY TAKE TIME TO REVIEW AND WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO DO IT.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: FOR CLARIFICATION ALSO, JUDGE, TWO HAVE TO DO WITH FINANCIAL RESOURCES THAT WEREN'T CLEAR AND I.T. WASN'T VERY CLEAR AND I INCLUDED N ANDP ON THERE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THE QUESTION IS BECAUSE HE HAVEN'T MADE HIS MOTION SPECIFIC, DO YOU WANT IT ON THE 14TH OR IN JANUARY. BECAUSE I -- I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO REVIEW VOLUMINOUS THINGS EITHER WITHOUT YOU DOING IT.

AND I AM ASKING THAT AS CLARIFICATION BECAUSE HE HAS NOT YET STATED WHEN HE WANTS TO TABLE IT TOO.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTS GATHERED ARE THE LARGEST TO SAY WHICH ONES COULD BE ABSOLUTELY ACCOMPLISHED ON THE 14TH.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: MY MOTION WILL INCLUDE P AND N FOR JANUARY BUT ACCORDING TO I.T., THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND INVESTIGATE THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES.

>>JUDGE CANALES: DARYL, IS THAT -- THOSE -- ALL OF THESE COME FROM -- I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST ANNOUNCE THEM SO THAT -- I MEAN, WE ARE TABLING THEM. BUT ON I, IT HAS TO DO WITH ONE SOLUTION. J HAS TO DUE WITH ASPHALT.

ON J, WHAT IS THE ISSUE THERE, JENNY, BECAUSE LOOKS LIKE IT HAS TO DO WITH ROAD MATERIAL. WILL THAT DELAY A ROAD? IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS AN EXECUTION OF AGREEMENT.

WE ALREADY APPROVED IT AS THE COURT.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE ISSUE IS THERE?

>> THE ISSUE IS THE SAME. WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING THE DOCUMENTS IN OUR POSSESSION TO REVIEW IN THEIR ENTIRETY, WE CAN NOT ADVISE THE COURT WHETHER THE CHOICE OF LAW IS APPROPRIATE AS WE FOUND IN DOCUMENTS GIVEN TO US.

WE CANNOT TALK OF EN DEMOCRAT TEE BECAUSE WE SIMPLY HAVE TO

SEE THE WORDS ON THE PAPER. >>JUDGE CANALES: I UNDERSTAND AND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HAS A QUESTION.

ON BUY BOARD CONTRACTS, WE HAVE GONE OVER THIS MULTIPLE TIMES.

YOU WILL NOT CHANGE THE BUY BOARD CONTRACTS BECAUSE THEY ARE EXECUTED IN PRIVITY WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS.

>> OUR JOB TO ADVISE THE COURT WHEN THERE IS A PART OF THE -- PART OF THE CONTRACT THAT IS NOT FAVORABLE OR IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

AND SO WE HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST WHERE PURCHASING HAS BEEN ABLE TO STRIKE THOSE THINGS THAT ARE UNFAVORABLE OR UNACCEPTABLE TO THE COUNTY, SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IT MIGHT BE PRUDENT TO LOOK AT THE BUY BOARDS WE ARE UTILIZING AND GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT THEIR MASTER AGREEMENTS IN ADVANCE AND IF SOMETHING YOU DON'T WANT TO USE, MAYBE THEY SHOULD NOT BE UTILIZED.

THE PURPOSE OF USING THE BUY BOARD IS TO ADOPT THE CONTRACTUAL LANGUAGE FOR THE FAVOR OF THE COUNTY, RIGHT, FOR EXPEDIENCY AND EFFICIENCY AND IT SEEMS TO BE THE OPPOSITE.

SO LET'S GO OVER THEM AG AGAIN I,J,M,N TO,O,P ANDQ.

AND YOU DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF THEM WILL RESULT IN WHAT I WOULD CALL -- I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE ODYSSEYS AND THE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE ONES THAT DEAL WITH I.T. DARYL, YOU CAN BRING IT BACK.

YOU CAN GET HER EVERYTHING SHE NEEDS?

>> YES. WE DO HAVE THOSE.

THOSE WERE PREVIOUS AGREEMENTS. THEY ARE NOT NEW.

THEY ARE JUST RENEWALS. AND THE TYLER GOES ALL THE WAY BACK WHEN LANCE MURPHY WAS HERE. THIS IS YEAR THREE OF THAT WHICH IS DUE. I DID DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY YESTERDAY AND THEY WERE CONCERNED SEEMED TO BE THE DELAWARE CORPORATION THAT THEY -- THAT THEY HAVE AN AGREEMENT, BUT NOTHING THAT WILL CHANGE THE COST IS IN THERE.

AND THEN THE MICROSOFT ONE. THAT IS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD ON

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IT WAS ON A THREE-YEAR AGREEMENT.

CAME UP FOR RENEWAL LAST YEAR. AND ACTUALLY WORKED WELL WITH IT. IT IS A PRODUCT ONLY.

ALL OF OUR OFFICE PRODUCTS AND THE -- AND THE EXCHANGE E-MAIL SYSTEM AS WELL AS OTHER PRODUCTS THAT WERE CURRENTLY USING IN -- THEY ARE UP FOR RENEWAL NOW. SO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WHEN DO THEY EXPIRE?

>> THEY ARE AT EXPIRATION RIGHT NOW.

>>JUDGE CANALES: SO IF THEY EXPIRE, I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF YOU CAN GET THESE FOR NEXT WEEK.

IF THEY ARE EXPIRING AND YOU DON'T HAVE COVERAGE, AND THEY HAVE BEEN IN PLACE THIS ENTIRE TIME WE HAVE BEEN USING THEM --

>> YES. MICROSOFT IS PRODUCT ONLY.

NO SERVICES IN IT. SO IT IS A VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND -- THE TYLER, WHICH IS OUR CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, LIKE I SAID, THAT WAS DONE A FEW YEARS BACK.

SO, YOU KNOW, I EXPECTED IT WOULD HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BACK THEN. I KNOW WE ARE MUCH MORE STRICT NOW AND HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY BUT THE RENEWAL ITEMS WERE THE ONES WE WERE WORKING ON NEW -- NEW AGREEMENTS AND THE RENEWALS ARE UNDER CURRENT AGREEMENTS AND THAT'S WHERE THE -- WHERE WE HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT.

AND WORKING VERY HARD WITH HER OFFICE, WENT THROUGH ALL THE NEW ONE THAT ARE COMING UP. I APOLOGIZE FOR THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS. THE RICO ONE WHICH IS VERY ROUTINE. COPIER REPLACEMENT.

BUT THAT ONE IS NOT AS SIGNIFICANT AS THE OTHER TWO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ AND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY WANTS TO GO AFTER YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ON THE P, YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT IT. MY CONCERN IS -- THE INCREASES CAN BE FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS AND YOU INDICATED THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE SOME INCREASES. SO MY QUESTION WAS -- AND WHY I WANT TO TABLE IT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS IS NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WILL SURPRISE US AND SAY YOU WILL OWE ANOTHER

$200,000 OR $300,000. >> YES, IN FACT CONNIE, IF YOU WILL BRING UP A DOCUMENT, IF THE COURT WILL ALLOW IT, GOING TO WANT TO LOOK AT -- THAT IS THE MICROSOFT ONE.

AS I SAID IT HAS A DEFENDER ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE THAT COMES WITH THAT. AND OUR EXCHANGE E-MAIL SYSTEM AND THE OFFICE PRODUCTS. THAT AGREEMENT HERE THAT IS DONE IS PRODUCT ONLY. VERY SHORT.

NO VERBIAGE IN IT. NOTHING REALLY LEGAL IN IT.

IT IS WITH MICROSOFT AND BUY THE PRODUCTS OR DON'T BUY THE PRODUCTS. THAT THAT IS THE PRIMARY ONE I AM CONCERNED WITH, BECAUSE HOW WE MANAGE OUR NETWORK AND EVERYTHING. LIKE I SAID VERY LIMITED INFORMATION IN THAT CONTRACT, SO -- IT IS NOT EVEN A CONTRACT.

IT'S A THREE-YEAR AGREEMENT. AND WITH IT, IT HAS NO COST INCREASE I WORK DILIGENTLY WITH THE CONSULTANT AND GOT BACK WITH MICROSOFT AFTER THAT AND HAS BEEN AROUND A $545,000 INVOICE ON IT AND WE BEAT IT DOWN TO 425 AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS DOCUMENT.

AND THAT AMOUNT RIGHT THERE WENT DOWN BY $120,000.

SO IT CAME OUT VERY GOOD, BECAUSE WE RESTRUCTURED HOW THE LICENSES WERE FROM THE PREVIOUS THREE YEARS.

SO IT CAME OUT VERY WELL. AND THERE IS NOT REALLY MUCH MORE TO THIS. SO THERE WAS NOTHING REALLY TO REVIEW FROM IT FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE REALLY.

AND -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: BUT

THAT IS YOUR OPINION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: AN MAY I

OPINION. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: TALKING OF CONTRACT AND AGREEMENT. ONE THING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY

NEEDS TO LET US KNOW. >> BUT NO COST INCREASE ON THIS ONE OVER THE THREE YEARS. IT DOESN'T HAVE --

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE MADE A MOTION TO TABLE AND SECONDED AND DISCUSSING AND DISCUSSING AND I AM TRYING.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY WE ARE AT THIS POINT, DARYL.

I THINK WE WILL KEEP DISCUSSING IT AND NOT SUPPOSED TO AND I WILL KEEP DOING THIS TOO. WHY ARE WE AT THIS POINT.

WHY DIDN'T YOU TAKE IT UP TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR RENEWAL AS THE DEPARTMENT HEAD RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS.

YOU ARE SITTING HERE REPRESENTING NO BIG DEAL BUT WE END UP WITH CONTRACTS ALL THE TIME UP HERE IF WE HAD GIVEN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY MORE TIME TO REVIEW AND THESE ARE BAD CONDITIONS AND NOT FAVORABLE. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IS TRYING TO GET HER JOB. AND WHY WOULDN'T WASN'T THIS GIVEN BACK TO HER. DID YOU LET IT EXPIRE WITHOUT BRING IT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TIMELY?

>> I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE RENEWALS WERE THESE TYPES OF RENEWALS AND HAD TO BE DONE WITH THE NEWER AGREEMENTS THAT WE ARE

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WORKING ON. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YOU ARE THE DEPARTMENT HEAD OF I.T. THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE I DON'T EVERY SIGHT OF KNOWING WHEN THESE CONTRACTS ARE UP, CORRECT?

THAT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. >> YES, YES.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THIS QUITE FRANKLY IS ON YOU.

YOU ARE PUTTING THIS COURT IN A POSITION BECAUSE YOU APPARENTLY DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE COMING UP AND YOU ARE THE DEPARTMENT HEAD AND SHOULD KNOW THAT THESE THINGS COMING UP AND YOU ARE TRYING TO RUSH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND MY QUESTION EARLIER WHICH WAS PERTINENT TO THE MOTION TO TABLE.

AND AGAIN I WILL TAKE THIS UP DARYL.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE WAY IS ALL COMING DOWN AGAIN WITH I.T.

THE MOTION TO TABLE WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING.

JEN HEY, WHEN DO YOU -- WHEN WILL THIS PROVIDE -- HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED TO REVIEW THE THINGS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO APPROVE ANYTHING UNTIL YOU SIGN OFF ON IT BECAUSE THIS IS THE PROBLEM WE GET IN ALL THE TIME. I DON'T WANT YOU COMING BACK AND SAYING THIS IS ANOTHER BAD CONTRACT AND WE SHOULDN'T HAVE SIGNED IT AFTER THE FACT. I NEED TO KNOW WHICH DATE WE ARE TABLING THESE THINGS TOO. I NEED DEPARTMENT HEADS EYE DAY TO WORK FOR YOU. TO HAVE MEETINGS ON A REGULAR BASIS AND I AM NOT STARTING JANUARY LIKE THIS.

I AM NOT GOING INTO JANUARY WITH THIS STUFF WHERE WE ARE RUSHING OF THE COURT INTO SOMETHING BECAUSE SOMEBODY DIDN'T DO WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. HE REPORTS TO YOU.

YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE. THE BUCK STOPS WITH YOU.

THIS IS AN I.T. DEAL. THIS NEEDS TO BE DOCUMENTED HERE WE ARE IN A BAD SITUATION TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RUSH ALL THIS. I AM NOT RUSHING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO TELL ME TO GET AN OPINION.

IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG THAT IS ON I.T. AND YOU AID AAE FOR NOT DOING IT RIGHT. ON THESE ITEMS HOW MUCH TIME DO WE NEED, WHEN DO THEY NEED TO BE TABLED TOO.

ALL I WAS TRYING TO GET TO A LONG TIME AGO AND A 30-MINUTE

DISCUSSION. >>JUDGE CANALES: GO ONE BY ONE AND ASK THAT QUESTION, JENNY. FIRST ONE IS -- WOULD YOU LIKE THAT ONE DECEMBER 14 OR JANUARY 4.

AND THEY WILL START MAKING NOTES.

BECAUSE SOME ARE DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS.

FOR EXAMPLE N IS NOT -- YOU DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING.

IT HAS TO DO WITH A FUNDING QUESTION.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I MAKE THE MOTION, JUDGE.

AND N WILL BE IN JANUARY. I WILL MOVE -- I WILL MAKE A MOTION. N WILL BE IN JANUARY.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM OKAY WITH THAT AS LONG AS IT -- I THINK WE CAN DO THEM ALL THAT WAY BUT FOR ANY OF THEM ARE DEEMED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OR THE DEPARTMENT HEAD THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT THAT IT NEEDS TO BE SOONER AND IT CAN BE DONE REALISTICALLY, THEN THAT CAN BE BROUGHT BACK ON THE 14TH IF THAT IS OKAY, COMMISSIONER. AND JENNY MAY NOT KNOW THE

ANSWER OF THAT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I DON'T

WANT TO PUT PRESSURE ON HER. >> WE DO KNOW THAT I BELIEVE -- I BELIEVE I CAN BE DONE VERY SAFELY BY THE 14TH.

NOT A PROBLEM. AND THEN J.

JZ SHOULD BE READY SAFELY BY THE 14TH ALSO.

THAT ONE IS NOT. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT ABOUT THE MICROSOFT AND THE ODYSSEY AND THE RICO.

>> MICROSOFT I WOULD LIKE TO GET BACK TO YOU LATER IN THE DAY PERHAPS. THAT HAS ALREADY EXPIRED.

THAT EXPIRED 11-30-22. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS MY

CONCERN. >> I CAN'T TELL YOU SITTING HERE TODAY WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT WILL BE AS FAR AS THE

RENEWAL. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO COULD -- THE ONES THAT WE KNOW CAN BE TABLED TO THE 14 WILL BE I AND J. ANY OTHERS THAT YOU KNOW WILL BE READY ON THE 14TH? AND IF YOU DON'T, I AM NOT PRESSURING YOU. I WANT IT TO BE DONE RIGHT.

>> YES, O IS THE MICROSOFT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: O WHAT?

>> O IS THE MICROSOFT AND I CAN GET INFORMATION THROUGHOUT THE

DAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL HOLD BACK ON O THEN. SHE SAID SHE WILL GIVE US AN ANSWER AT THE END OF THE DAY COMMITTEES COMMITTEES WHICH ONES

FOR SURE ARE OKAY FOR THE 14TH. >> THAT IS PROBABLY IT.

I AND J. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I, J

AND O. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THE ONES WE KNOW ON THE 14TH. TABLES THE OTHER UNTIL JANUARY UNLESS THEY ARE READY AND THEN WILL BE BACK ON THE 14TH.

>> JENNY, THE MICROSOFT CAN WAIT UNTIL THE 14TH AND THE OTHERS CAN WAIT UNTIL THE 4TH. I CAN WORK THAT OUT WITH THE VENDOR BECAUSE -- BECAUSE I AM NOT GOING TO PUT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IN ANY SITUATION HERE. I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT -- I DIDN'T KNOW THAT RENEWALS THAT WERE UNDER ALREADY AGREEMENT WILL BE SUBJECT TO IT THE STRINGENT STUFF WE HAVE BEEN DOING WITH THE NEW ONES.

BUT I AM NOT GOING TO -- I AM NOT GOING TO PRESSURE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OR THE COMMISSIONERS COURT.

I WILL GO BACK TO THE VENDOR SHI FOR MICROSOFT AND THAT CAN BE

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-- UNTIL JANUARY 4. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: P AND Q.

I AM JUST MAKING SURE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S CORRECT.

P AND Q. >> Q IS THE RICO ONE, THE COPIER REPLACEMENT AND CAN WAIT TO THE 4TH.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: N TO THE 4TH.

>>JUDGE CANALES: N IS NOT DARYL. IT IS MICHAEL.

WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THIS WITH THE DAYS.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF IT IS NOT READY ON THE 14 ST WE WILL DEAL WITH THAT THEN. P AND Q GO TO JANUARY 4 AND

LEAVE US WITH N. >>JUDGE CANALES: N WAS A -- HE WANTS TO TABLE IT UNTIL JANUARY BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING.

BUT I WANT TO REMIND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ THAT THE FUNDING WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE COURT AND IT WAS ARPA AND DONE CUMULATIVELY AND AIDAE CAN CONFIRM.

IF WERE YOU -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: MY

MOTION FOR THE 4TH, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU ARE ASKING A QUESTION OF THE FUNDING. THE FUNDING EXISTS ALREADY.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: TALKED WITH THE FUNDING WITH DARYL.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: WHAT WAS YOUR MOTION, COMMISSIONER?

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: TALKING OF N, COMMISSIONER?

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: N. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE FUNDING FOR THE CASE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE WAS APPROPRIATED ABOUT THE COURT.

>> THE FUNDING FOR THE -- OH, FOR THE QUINCY, WITH THE MEDICAL EXAMINER? YES, I -- AS A MATTER OF FACT, I HAVE THIS IN FRONT OF ME BECAUSE IT DID -- I.T. ONLY -- KENT AND I MET WITH THEM TO GO OVER THE AGREEMENT.

BUT THEN PURCHASING ACTUALLY MANDELED THE AGENDA ITEM.

I HAVE -- I HAVE REVIEWED IT. AND IT LOOKS OKAY, BUT I THINK COMMISSIONERS WILL LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT IS THE ONLY THIS I

THINK THAT WILL WORK FOR THEM. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JENNY, HAVE YOU REVIEWED IT? HAVE YOU REVIEWED N?

>>JUDGE CANALES: N IS AN AUTHORIZATION FOR A SOLE SOURCE.

>> THIS IS THE ONE WHERE THERE IS ONLY A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION FOR THE COURT WHENEVER THEY DO DISCUSS IT WILL FILL IN SOME DATES. BUT AS FAR AS OUR REVIEW OF THAT, THAT -- THAT WE ARE -- WE ARE -- WE ARE COOL WITH THAT

ONE. >> MY ONLY CONCERN FROM I.T.

THAT THEY SUSTAINED FUND FOR THE RENEWALS, IF THEY WERE STILL GOING TO USE ARPA FOR THAT. NOT MY CALL IF THEY CAN OR NOT SO MY CONCERN WAS LOOKING AT THIS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY CAN SUSTAIN IS IT AFTER IT WAS FUNDED THE FIRST YEAR AND IF COMMISSIONERS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THE FIRST YEAR. THAT ONE, I HAVE NO -- IF IT NEEDS TO WAIT, IT NEEDS TO WAIT AND WE CAN REVIEW IT IS IT SOME MORE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE SOLE SOURCE IS APPROPRIATE AND NOT

ANOTHER APPLICATION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T LOVE SOLE SOURCE EITHER MYSELF. I AM NOT A FAN OF SOLE SOURCE.

I AM OKAY. SOUNDS LIKE L, I, J AND O FOR

THE 14TH. >>JUDGE CANALES: DR. FAGAN IS ON THE LINE AS WELL AS FOREST MITCHELL.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE -- I CAN'T RECALL AT THE MOMENT IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA.

I WILL SUGGEST THAT YOU GO OUTSIDE AND VISIT WITH DARYL AND GET HIM UP TO SPEED ON MEDICAL TECHNOLOGY SOFTWARE AS WELL AS

OUR PROCUREMENT AGENT BECAUSE -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: CALL

FOR THE QUESTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU HAVE THE WRONG PERSON ADVISING. YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MEDICAL, TECHNICAL, M.E. SOFTWARE.

WE WILL WORK TOGETHER TO GET THAT ACCOMPLISHED.

OKAY. SO WILL YOU ALL PLEASE DO THAT.

SO WHY DON'T YOU RESTATE YOUR MOTION NOW THAT YOU HAVE ALL THE

RIGHT DATES AND ALL THE RIGHT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: MOTION

TO CABLE I, J AND O TO THE 14TH. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: S

SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: OF DECEMBER 2022. AND ALSO TO TABLE N, P, AND Q TO THE 4TH OF JANUARY. 2023.

>>JUDGE CANALES: SO THE MOTION -- THAT IS A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ:

SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY.

ALL TO HE WAS IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

I AM A NO FOR THE N, FOR THE REASON THAT MEDICAL SOFTWARE THAT HAS BEEN DELAYED AND ALREADY APPROPRIATED SHOULD BE IN THE HANDS OF MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. OTHERWISE THE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE CANNOT BE HAD, AND THIS IS APPARENTLY LOST HERE.

[1. Discuss and consider the renewal of Nueces County's Workers Compensation Insurance Coverages for Calendar Year 2023.]

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I BELIEVE JENNY, YOU HAVE REVIEWED THIS.

>> YES. WE ARE STILL GATHERING DOCUMENTS. I DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THIS ONE, BUT WE ARE STILL GATHERING THE UNDERLYING DOCUMENTS. SO THAT IN THE FUTURE WHEN THESE DO COME UP, WE WILL BE ABLE TO ASSIST AND PROACTIVELY HAVE ALL

THE REVIEW DONE. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHT TAMPA TO TIM, PRESENT THE WORKMAN'S COMP AND THE COVERAGE ALL FOR THE YEAR '23. ALL HAVE CHASE CARLISLE HERE WITH US TO ANSWER ANY UNDERWRITING QUESTIONS AND

CONCERNS. >> GOOD MORNING ONCE AGAIN, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS BEFORE THE COURT THIS MORNING IS 2023 WORKERS COMPENSATION COVERAGES AND THE INFORMATION THAT I PROVIDED TO THE COURT, WE ARE WELL BELOW OUR 2021 NUMBERS AS FAR AS OUR LOSSES IN WORK-RELATED INJURIES.

FOR THE -- FOR THE 504,000, WE ARE ALSO WELL WITHIN THE BUDGETED AMOUNT THAT WAS IN THE 2023 BUDGET AS WELL.

SO WE ARE WITHIN THAT AS WELL. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE MAJORITY OF OUR LOSSES -- OF OUR LOSSES ARE 68%.

THAT IS HISTORICAL. HISTORICALLY CORRECT ACROSS THE BOARD AND THE RUNNING NUMBERS. CHASE IS HERE AS WELL.

HE WILL GIVE YOU THE PERCENTAGES.

I KNOW IT WENT UP FROM LAST YEAR OF 39,000.

HE AND I DISCUSSED WHY IT WENT UP AND I WILL ALLOW HIM TO TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO STAND HERE AND TAKE UP ALL THE CHIME. CHASE.

>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME MERE.

AS TIM SAID, WE SAW A PREMIUM INCREASE, BUT THAT IS PRIMARILY DRIVEN BY AN EXPOSURE INCREASE. LAST YEAR WHEN THE POLICY STARTED, THEY WILL A ROUGHLY $52 MILLION OF PAYROLL, THIS YEAR THE RENEWAL WAS 59 MILLION AND INCREASE OF $7 MILLION IN PAYROLL THAT REPRESENTS 18%. THE PREMIUM INCREASE -- SORRY 13%. THE PREMIUM INCREASE IS 8%.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO IS 5% WHICH ULTIMATELY REFLECTS THAT YOU GUYS RECEIVED A 5% REDUCTION IN YOUR OVERALL RATES.

OVERALL, I THINK THAT WAS A WIN. YES IT IS COSTING US A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY, BUT HIGHER EXPOSURE ON THE PAYROLL.

>>JUDGE CANALES: COME MESH RAT. >> THE IMPORTANT PART YOU HAVE A

RATE DECREASE. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHT.

ARE THERE ANY REQUEST HE IS? A MOTION TO APPROVE THE NEW

WORKERS COMPENSATION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO

MOVED. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ:

SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL TO HE WAS IN FAVOR OF THIS RENEWAL, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

THE NEXT TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA ARE WHAT IS CHARACTERIZED AS CLEANUP BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND OUR COUNSEL, BOND COUNSEL, AND I WILL READ THEM BUT I UNDERSTAND JENNY, IN ADVANCE, THESE ARE -- THIS IS LANGUAGE THAT HAS COME STRAIGHT FROM OUR COUNSEL THAT IS NEEDED IN FURTHERANCE AND PURSUANT OF THE FINANCES. WHAT IT BASICALLY DOES IS HELP FIRM UP THE LANGUAGE WITH REGARDS TO WHAT IS NEEDED WHEN YOU ARE BORROWING AND YOU NEED TO STATE WHERE THOSE DOLLARS ARE COMING FROM, OUR INS, BUT YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY REFER BACK TO

[2. Discuss and consider order authorizing and levying an annual ad valorem tax in connection with the issuance of $5,060,000 in principal amount of public property finance contractual obligations to be issued by the county to for the purchase and installation of materials, supplies, furnishings, equipment, machinery, and computers information technology systems, applications, hardware, and software.]

HERE IT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER -- THIS IS THE PART, AUGHT TRYING AND LEVYING AN ANNUAL AD VALOREM TAX IN ISSUANCE OF 5.60,000 -- 5,006,000.

AND FINANCE AND CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS TO BE ISSUED BY THE COUNTY FOR THE PURCHASES AND MATERIALS FOR MACHINES, EQUIPMENT, MACHINE REESE AND COMPUTERS AND INFORMATION, APPLICATIONS, HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE.

I WILL REFER TO AIDAI BECAUSE SHE BROUGHT THIS TO ME AND SAID WE NEEDED TO ACCOMPLISH THIS. AGAIN, ALL OF PREVIOUS WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE ALREADY REFLECTS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT, WHICH IS THE BORROWING FOR THE ONE SOLUTION SOFTWARE.

>> COUNSEL IS HERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: COUNSEL IS WITH US. I SAID ONE SOLUTION.

WORK DAY. I HAD IT IN MY HEAD FROM THE

PREVIOUS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I HAVE QUESTIONS ON THESE TWO. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE WERE TWO ITEMS. ONE FOR 5.06.

ONE FOR. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL LET THE

COUNSEL ANSWER THAT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: PLEASE,

THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: COULD YOU JUST

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ISAIAH -- MR. WETA. WILL YOU BE ABLE TO HELP US.

ITEMS TWO AND THREE ARE THE ITEMS REQUESTED BY BOND COUNSEL.

THE QUESTION THAT MR. CHESNEY HAS IS -- MR. CHESNEY.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: EXCUSE ME.

I AM CHOKING. WHY IT IS SET UP WITH LANGUAGE TO WHERE IT IS 5.060 AND 5.585. I READ THE RESOLUTION BUT NO EXPLANATION WHY WE ARE DOING THIS.

AND I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHY THESE ITEMS ARE ON HERE.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE REFUNDING.

I THINK HE IS ASKING YOU ABOUT THE REFUNDING.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: TWO AND THREE IS WHAT I AM ASKING ABOUT.

>> YES, GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COURT. I AM ISAIAH.

TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSIONER'S QUESTION.

THE ITEM 2 AS IT RELATED TO THE PPCFO'S RETURN TO FUND THE SOFTWARE WHILE ITEM 3 WITH A REFUNDING AND SOMEWHAT A RESTRUCTURES TO HELP MAINTAIN THE LEVEL OF TAX RATE GOING FORWARD. THE INITIAL OBJECTIVE GIVEN BY THE COURT WAS TO FIND FUNDING FOR THE SOFTWARE PROJECT WHILE ALSO, AGAIN, MAINTAINING A DEBT SERVICE AND TAX RATE GOING FORWARD. AND SO THAT'S WHY THERE ARE TWO ITEMS UNRELATED TO THE PROJECT FUND AND ITEM 3 IS THE REFUNDING CREATING SAVINGS TO MAINTAIN THE TAX RATE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THREE IS SIMPLY REFUNDING -- WHEN YOU SAY REFUNDING -- THAT IS TO RESTRUCTURE THAT DEBT AND ISSUE

NEW DEBT FROM NUMBER 2? >> THREE IS RELATED TO 2015 SERIES THAT WAS ALREADY OUTSTANDING.

AND WE ARE REFUNDING PORTIONS OF THAT 2015 IN CREATING SAVINGS FROM THE FRONT EEND THAT HELPED CAPACITY NOR NUMBER TWO WHICH IS

THE SOFTWARE PROJECT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WITHOUT INCREASING OUT DEBT -- WITHOUT INCREASING OUR DEBT AND HAVING

TO INCREASE OUR INS TAX RATE? >> WITHOUT INCREASING THE TAX RATE, CORRECT. OVERALL, INCREASE IN DEBT BECAUSE WE ARE ISSUING BONDS TO FUND THE SOFTWARE PROJECT, BUT RESTRUCTURED IN A WAY TO MAINTAIN THE LEVEL OF TAX RATE

TO $.42. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: REFUNDING IS A MISNOMER. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE GETTING MONEY BACK. HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE IT OTHER THAN A REFUNDING TO BE TRANSPARENT.

NOT REALLY A REFUNDING BECAUSE YOU ARE GETTING IT BACK.

>> A RESTRUCTURING ON THE PRESENT VALUE PACE IS.

A DEPOSIT -- A SAVINGS OF JUST OVER $60,000.

>>JUDGE CANALES: REFUND SOMETHING THE CORRECT TERM.

MR. HUERTA, REFUND SOMETHING THE CORRECT FINANCIAL TERM IN THIS

SITUATION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I UNDERSTAND THAT AND -- IF THE PUBLIC READS THIS AND THAT MAY BE THE CORRECT FINANCIAL TERM BUT THE REAL WORLD THAT WE ALL OPERATE, REFUNDING INDICATES THAT WE ARE GETTING MONEY BACK.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE ARE, SIR, THERE ARE SAVINGS.

THAT MEANS COMING BACK. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: BUT CONNECTS WITH THE ISSUANCE OF REFUNDING BONDS TO BE ISSUED BY THE COUNTY AND HE WE ARE NOT DECREASING OUR DEBT.

WE ARE GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY BACK BUT STILL INCREASING

OUR DEBT. >> TWO ISSUE -- TWO ISSUENESSANCES HERE. NUMBER THREE, ISOLATED AWAY FROM NUMBER TWO IS A REFUNDING WITH NET PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS OF

JUST OVER $60,000. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SAVINGS, GOT IT. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND AUTHORIZE THE LEVYING AS READ FOR THE ISSUANCE OF $5,068,000 FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE ITEMS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED THAT AREN'T LISTED. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ:

SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ANY FURTHER

[3. Discuss and consider order authorizing and levying an annual ad valorem tax in connection with the issuance of $5,585,000 in principal amount of limited tax refunding bonds to be issued by the county for the purpose of providing for the (i) discharge and final payment of the refunded obligations and (ii) payment of the costs of issuance of the bonds.]

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IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. HOW SHOULD WE RECORD YOUR VOTE ON THE LAST TWO, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM TRYING TO REMEMBER -- I WAS SITTING HERE TRYING TO REMEMBER, JUDGE, IF I ABSTAIN.

I DON'T HAVE ANY CONFLICT AND I THINK I VOTED NO ON THESE BUT I

CAN'T REMEMBER. >> IT WAS A NO.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK I AM GOING TO REGISTER NO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: YOU WILL BE CONSISTENT.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NO ON TWO, YES ON THREE TO BE

CONSISTENT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT WAY WE GOT

YOU. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I APPRECIATE IT. TRYING TO SIT HERE TO REMEMBER.

[4. Discuss and consider requesting an extension of the beginning date for the Texas Indigent Defense Commission Public Defender Office grant from July 1, 2022 to November 7, 2022 and update designation of Program Director.]

>>JUDGE CANALES: DISCUSSION -- OKAY, THANK YOU.

ITEM NUMBER 4 IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT DEALS WITH OUR NEWLY TREATED INDIGENT DEFENSE COMMISSION.

AND WE MEET OUR NEW PUBLIC DEFENDER AND SHE IS GETTING STARTED. THERE ARE MOVEMENTS AFOOT WITH REGARDS TO THE CREATION OF B BOTHED AN OFFICE STAFF AND SPACE; HOWEVER, SHE DID NOT GET HIRED -- AND AIDAI, THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN AN ERROR HERE. I THINK IT IS NOVEMBER 7.

THAT IS THE OFFICIAL DATE. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IT WAS BEFORE BUT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS SO RECENT.

HER OFFICIAL DATE OF EMPLOYMENT WAS NOVEMBER 7.

THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S AGENDA, UNDER THE RULES, I CAN SEND A LETTER BUT BROUGHT IT TO THE COURT FOR NOT ONLY AWARENESS BUT CONFIRMATION THAT WE PREFER THAT THE GRANT START THE DATE SHE STARTED. AND THAT IS REALLY WHY THIS LETTER IS HERE. AND I AM SEEKING THAT EXTENSION FROM THE TIDC'S OFFICE AND INSTEAD OF JULY 1, THE WAY THE GRANT HAD IT AND INSTEAD NOVEMBER 7 TO CORRESPOND WITH

HER ACTUAL EMPLOYMENT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE YOU HAVE YOU A BLANK FOR THE PROGRAM DIRECTOR.

PUT THE CURRENT GRANTS? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ANA VELASQUEZ IN THE BLANK AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WHEN WE DID THE LETTER. THE FILL IN THE BLANK.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AND MULTIPLE SECONDS. I HEARD MR. GONZALEZ.

SHE IS ON THE LINE AND HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYTHING HERE.

THIS IS MERELY A FORMALITY, BUT AN IMPORTANT ONE TAMPA RIGHT DENNIS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET DOCKED FOR THE TIME.

WE WANT TO START THE CLOCK AT THE RIGHT DATE.

IS THAT ACCURATE? THERE SHE IS.

>> HI. YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

IT IS REALLY JUST A HOUSEKEEPING THIS I THINK TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR REPORTING DEADLINES CORRESPOND TO THE BEGINNING OF THE PROGRAM. AND TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE FULL BENEFIT -- I BELIEVE A 24-MONTH PERIOD TO SPEND THE

GRANT MONEY. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S CORRECT.

GREAT. NOT QUESTIONS BUT CLARIFICATIONS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. I WILL BE SIGNING THIS SHORTLY AS SOON AS I GET A LITTLE BIT OF A CLEANER COPY, AND WE WILL GET IT UP TO ANA WHO WILL GET IT TO YOU.

BUT WE KNOW YOU NEED TO GET THIS OUT TODAY AND THAT IS MY

ATTENTION. >> THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. WE HAVE ALREADY DONE ITEM NUMBER

[6. Discuss and consider concurring with Coastal Bend Council of Governments proposed Method of Distribution for declined/de-obligated Hurricane Harvey CDBG-Disaster Recovery funds resulting in a $61,000 award to Nueces County.]

SO WHAT THIS IS THERE WERE FUNDS THAT WERE NOT UTILIZED INSIDE OUR REGION AND WHAT THE COG IS SEEKING IS PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE JURISDICTIONS ON WHETHER OR NOT THEIR METHOD OF DISTRIBUTION IS ONE THAT WE CAN, AS THEY SAID, ACCEPT AND LIVE WITH.

WHEN YOU USE THE METHOD OF DISTRIBUTION, WE WILL GET AN EXTRA $61,000. ALL THE JURISDICTIONS IN THE COG, IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT THEY ARE, I BELIEVE THEY ARE ATTACHED. IN YOUR PACKET, BUT THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT NEXT -- BELINDA

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US. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ANY OF THE MONIES WE GET FROM THAT, JUDGE, EAR MARK THAT FOR THE

ROOF FOR THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE? >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU CAN -- I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM, BUT I I DON'T HAVE THE -- DR, DISASTER RECOVERY. KATH KATHY, WILL YOU ABLE TO HELP US AND VISIT WITH ANA. THIS IS A HURRICANE HARVEY OLD PROGRAM, WHERE DISASTER RECOVERY FUNDS CAN BE USED.

TYPICALLY ANYTHING THAT WAS DAMAGED DO BE USED.

I WOULD THINK THAT IS ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM FOR ANOTHER DAY AND I WOULD SAY, YES, WHY DON'T YOU AIDAI WORK WITH THIS TEAM AND GET BACK. THE PURPOSE IS TO GET THE MONEY.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SO MOVED.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: SECOND.

>>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

[7. Discuss and consider reduction of the CDBG-MIT grant submission of the living breakwater island project, “Rincon Breakwater Oyster Reef,” from $98,857,651.40 to $14,000,000.]

IT HAS BEEN CLEARED. I HAVE SOME COMMENTS BEFORE I CALL ON YOU, BECAUSE WE ARE SO IN LOVE WITH ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER. UNTIL I CALL ON YOU, NO MOTIONS CAN BE MADE. HERE ARE MY COMMENTS.

IF YOU PERMIT ME, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT I CALL UPON YOU TIMELY. FIRST, AS YOU JUST HEARD ME SAY, THE COG IS REALLOCATING T THE CDBGR, THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE CDBG MITIGATION DOLLARS.

RECENTLY THE COG -- AND WE ALL PARTICIPATED IN IT -- WAS ABLE TO AWARD NUECES COUNTY A LITTLE OVER $# 1 MILLION FOR HURRICANE HARVEY MITIGATION FUNDS. IN APRIL -- SO SORRY, IN OCTOBER OF -- OCTOBER 28, TO BE EXACT, OF 2020, THE COUNTY, NUECES COUNTY, SUBMITTED A PROPOSAL OF THE JOINT APPLICATION AS WELL AS THE INDIVIDUAL APPLICATION FOR CDBG.

THOSE WERE THE LIVING A BREAKWATER ISLANDS PROJECT AND A

LICHT STATION FOR COASTAL PARKS. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: EXCUSE ME JUDGE. I JUST WANT TO ASK.

>>JUDGE CANALES: YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT BECAUSE I AM IN THE

MIDDLE OF SOMETHING. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I JUST

WANTED TO MAKE MY MOTION CLEAR. >>JUDGE CANALES: I JUST EXPLAINED IT. BUT I WILL EXPLAIN IT AGAIN IN

JUST A MOMENT. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: THANK

YOU VERY MUCH. >>JUDGE CANALES: I APPRECIATE YOU. SO, AGAIN, THE CDBG FUNDS TOTAL $31 MILLION. AND THERE ARE RULES ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THE RULES HAVE A PERCENTAGE REQUIREMENT. I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME AROUND THE 46% TO 48% FOR OUR COUNTY, FOR LMI PROJECTS.

THAT MEANS THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY WILL GO TOWARD AREAS THAT HAVE A LOW TO MODERATE INCOME THAT SATISFIES THE ELIGIBILITY.

PLAIN ENGLISH, MEANS THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF DOLLARS AVAILABLE, ALMOST HALF OF THEM OF THE $31 MILLION OF AREAS NEEDED THE MOST FOR FLOOD MITIGATION PROJECTS.

THAT IS A GREAT THING; HOWEVER, IN OCTOBER 28 -- OCTOBER 2020, THE THIS COURT ADMITTED A HUGE GRANT BECAUSE YOU COULD DO SO.

UP TO 100 MILLION DOLLARS AND IN THE TUNE OF $98 MILLION FOR THE BREAKWATER ISLAND THAT YOU HEARD THIS MORNING VERY STRONG PUBLIC SUPPORT FROM THE RESIDENTS AND THE ASSOCIATIONS THEY REPRESENT INCLUDING THE BUSINESSMEN THAT HAVE MADE LARGE INVESTMENTS THERE TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT OBVIOUSLY IT PROTECTS CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, AND SOMETIMES IT IS NOT SO OBVIOUS.

NOT JUST THE HOMES AS WAS POINTED OUT BUT THE BEACH AND THE SERIOUS EROSION AND THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME COSTING TAXPAYERS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY. WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR GRANT IS THAT WITH HE A $30 MILLION MATCH ASSOCIATED WITH IT. COMES FROM BOTH PRODUCT AND IN KIND SERVICES. THAT MATCH WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE UNLESS THE DOLLARS FOR THE LIVING BREAKWATER ISLANDS ARE

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WE KNOW WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY $14 MILLION LEFT.

WHY $14 MILLION? BACK IN 2019, WE PROCURED A GRANT MANAGEMENT TEAM TO ASSIST US WITH CDBG MINT.

WHY? BECAUSE THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS VERY HAVE VERY COMPLEX. AND SO THEY HAVE A 6% BY CONTRACT FEE. SO YOU GOT TO TAKE THE $31 MILLION, BACK OUT THE 6%. BACK OUT THE 50%.

AND THAT'S HOW YOU COME UP WITH $14 MILLION.

THE HART RESEARCH INSTITUTE ARE THE BRILLIANT SCIENTISTS BEHIND IT. THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK AND THE COURT MADE IT ITS PRIORITY IN 2020. IT HAS TAKEN A LONG TIME AND THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES AFTER HURRICANES AND HUD A AND GLO. WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG AND TOOK A LONG TIME FOR THE FEDS AND THE STATE TO BASICALLY GET US THESE DOLLARS. IT HAS TAKEN OVER FIVE YEARS.

AND THE PROJECTS REMAIN SOLID AS A ROCK.

IT IS ALSO MENTIONED AS TO WHY THE COUNTY WOULD THINK THIS TO BE SUCH AN IMPORTANT COUNTY PROJECT.

AND THE TWO MAIN REASONS FOR THAT.

FIRST THE LIVING BREAKWATER ISLANDS CAN BE DESIGNATED AND THEY WERE THIS SPRING AS A TIER ONE PROJECT FROM THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE. WHY IS THAT SO IMPORTANT? WELL, ONLY PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THAT STATUS CAN RECEIVE GOMESA MONEY. WHO CAN RECEIVE GOMESA MONIES? ONLY COUNTIES. THIS PROJECT HAS A TREMENDOUS UPWARD MOBILITY TO BASICALLY QUADRUPLE ITSELF, MAYBE EVEN GREATER THAN THAT IF WE HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME AND WHY IN COURT WISELY CHOSE IN 2020 TO SUBMIT THIS PROJECT AS ITS NUMBER ONE. AGAIN ON A MORE TECHNICAL MATTER, THESE PARTICULAR ISLANDS WILL SEE APPROXIMATELY A BILLION OYSTERS AND I HEARD SOMETHING YESTERDAY THAT I HEARD NOT HEARD IN A VERY, VERY LONG TIME AND I WOULD LIKE TO REPEAT IT.

ALWAYS WHEN WESTERN KIDS SAID WE ARE COMING OVER THE HARBOR BRIDGE. A SPARKLING CITY BY THE SEA.

THAT IS BECAUSE IN THE 1800S WHEN OYSTERS WERE BEING PROLIFIC OYSTERS ACT LIKE LITTLE FILTERS AND WHERE THE BEAUTIFUL NAME, THE SPARKLING CITY KIND OF CAME FROM THAT THE WATER CLARITY WAS SO GOOD. SO IT IS A TREMENDOUS PROJECT ON TEN DIFFERENT LEVELS AND I KNOW THAT THE INTENT IS TO BRING IT BACK IN JANUARY, BUT I WILL SAY THAT THIS PROJECT -- WE DID NOT KNOW THIS UNTIL LITERALLY A MONTH -- LESS THAN A MONTH AGO WHAT THE RULES WERE GOING TO BE AND NOW WE KNOW THAT THE RULES ARE GOING TO BE FOR SUBMISSION ON FEBRUARY 21.

AND -- OR 28TH, YOU ARE RIGHT. I THINK IT IS THE 28TH.

IS THAT RIGHT -- THE 21ST OR 28TH.

THE 28TH. AND THIS GIVES VERY LITTLE TIME IF YOU SAW THE APPLICATION IN -- IN THE TECHNICAL BACKGROUND, IT GIVES VERY LITTLE TIME TO REDUCE --

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE ARE HAVING DISCUSSION.

YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING FOR 10, 15 MINUTES.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS WHY IFL THE GAVEL.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THE GAVEL DOESN'T DO ANYTHING.

>>JUDGE CANALES: EXCUSE ME SIR. I AM GETTING TO YOU.

ACTUALLY GET TO COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ FIRST, BUT YOUR INTERRUPTIONS ARE NOT ONLY RUDE BUT UNWELCOMED.

THE DREDGE MATERIAL -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: TALK,

TALK, TALK. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE DREDGE MATERIAL THAT WILL BE USED FOR THE ISLANDS WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO US NOW, NOT IN THE FUTURE. SO THERE IS GOING TO BE A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS COURT TO CONTINUE THEIR QUEST FOR THEIR LIVING BREAKWATER ISLAND PROJECT FIRST SUBMITTED IN 2020 AND THEN I MIGHT ADD THIS -- AND I KNOW YOU WEREN'T HERE IN -- COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, BUT URN HERE IN APRIL OF 2022. IN APRIL OF 2022, THIS COURT R REAFFIRMED THE PROJECT WHEN WE

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SAME EXACT CONCEPT AND PROJECT. AND SO I JUST WANT THIS COURT TO KNOW THAT THERE IS A -- A LOT OF WONDERFUL BACK-UP DATA THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU. AND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, YOU ASKED FOR THAT AND I AM GLAD YOU DID.

AND THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF VOLUME OF DATA THAT HAS BEEN IN YOUR POCKET. AND THERE HAS BEEN A -- A TON OF WORLD-CLASS, AS I SAID, BOTH SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING DONE.

AND, AGAIN, WHY? BECAUSE THIS COURT SETS FORTH THESE PRIORITIES. BACK IN 2020, AND WE REAFFIRMED IT BACK IN 2022. AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH ALL OF OUR STAKEHOLDER AND ALL OF OUR PARTNERS IN ORDER TO SEE THIS DONE. AND AS THE EMERGENCY MANAGER, THERE ARE SO MANY REASONS FROM A COASTAL PERSPECTIVE WHY THIS PROJECT IS IMPORTANT, BUT THE NUMBER ONE REASON IS IF WE ARE TO GET A DIRECT HIT, THAT CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, THE ONE THAT BRINGS US A MILLION TOURISTS A YEAR, THE LEXINGTON, THE AQUARIUM AND THE NEW RESEARCH CENTER WILL BE COMPROMISED. IT IS ABOUT FOLLOWING THROUGH AND KEEPING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE $30 MILLION MATCH.

I DON'T KNOW OF ANY BUSINESSMAN THAT WOULDN'T RECOGNIZE THAT IF YOU CAN TURN $14 MILLION INTO $44 MILLION, THERE IS NO OTHER PROJECT THAT I AM AWARE OF THAT THAT HAS THAT ABILITY.

SO WITH THAT, I WANTED TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE STAYED. I KNOW SOME OF THEM HAD TO LEAVE, BUT WHO CAME AND GAVE PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT AFTER THREE YEARS WORTH OF WAITING FROM THE FEDS AND THE STATE, WE FINALLY HAVE IS THE DOLLARS TO, AS THEY SAID, FINISH THE JOB. AND GET THIS PROJECT STARTED.

SO JUST SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TABLING IS SIMPLY THE AGENDA ITEM WAS TO REDUCE $98 MILLION WHICH THE COURT HAD ALREADY APPROVED TO $14 MILLION. AND WHY? WELL, BECAUSE $98 MILLION HAS WAY MORE WORK THAN THE $14 MILLION CAN ABSORB. SO IT IS NOT THE PROJECT IN ITS FULL SUBMISSION TODAY THAT YOU ARE TABLING.

YOU ARE SIMPLY TABLING THIS CONCEPT OF TAKE IT FROM WHAT IT CAN NOT BE, OUR FIRST SUBMISSION OF $98 MILLION WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE THE $14 MILLION. THE $14 MILLION WILL BASICALLY COVER ISLANDS ONE AND TWO ONLY. THE REASON IT IS SO CRITICAL TO PUT -- TO START, GAUZE THE GLO NOW HAS THE ABILITY -- AND ONLY THE COUNTY HAS THIS, NOBODY ELSE.

GOMESA FUNS FROM THE STATE -- NOT THE COUNTY BUT THE STATE'S GOMESA BECAUSE IT IS A TIER ONE PROJECT.

WE DID THAT THIS STRING. WE GOT THAT CONFIRMATION.

IT NOW CAN GET THE BIG DOLLARS THAT IT NEEDS BUT THE PROJECT HAS TO START. SO I THINK THAT IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT -- LIKE, AS THEY SAY, CONNECTING OF THE DOTS AS TO WHY THE COUNTY. BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE, EVERY MAJOR STAKEHOLDER HAS PARTICIPATED IN A SIX-FIGURE OR SEVEN-FIGURE, YOU KNOW, DOLLAR AMOUNT. IT IS JUST THAT THIS OPPORTUNITY WAS AVAILABLE TO COUNTIES. COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, YOU WANT TO HAVE A -- I WILL RECOGNIZE YOU AND YOU HAVE A MOTION.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: YES, MA'AM, I DO.

AND I WANT TO STATE THAT I HAD A LOT OF CONSTITUENT WHO COULDN'T BE HERE BECAUSE THEY HAD TO BE AT WORK.

A LOT OF ESCONDIDO WITCH WENT THAT ARE ELDERLY, CAN'T DRIVE AND DON'T HAVE A VEHICLE. A LOT OF THEM ARE COMING FROM THE BANQUETE AT THAT AREA, DRISCOLL, ING A GA DOLCE.

I HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO THEM TOO.

THIS IS WHY I AM TABLING THE ITEM.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: MAKING THE MOTION AT THAT TABLE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: A SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SECOND.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: TABLE IT UNTIL JANUARY.

[8. Receive update regarding incentive fee for 2022 for Global Spectrum Management agreement.]

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: UNTIL JANUARY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: JANUARY 4. OKAY.

WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 8 8. THIS IS AN INCENTIVE FEE FROM 2022 GLOBAL SPECTRUM MANAGEMENT. JUST THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK OVER THE DOLLARS AND CENTS. THERE -- ANY QUESTIONS? I MEAN, WE CAN HEAR FROM THE PRESENTATION OR YOU CAN JUST ACKNOWLEDGE -- I THINK IT IS IN THE $40,000 RANGE.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT CALCULATION, AIDAI, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT?

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>> THIS IS BASED ON THE CONTRACT.

EVERYTHING, $8376. >>JUDGE CANALES: ANY QUESTIONS

FOR AIDAI. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I ASKED THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO GO BACK TO REVIEW THIS CONTRACT TO SEE -- I DON'T REMEMBER -- PROBABLY I DON'T REMEMBER FOR VARIOUS REASONS, RIGHT. BUT ANYWAY, I THINK THAT WE GAVE THEM SO MUCH MONEY AT THE BEGINNING AND NOW GIVING THEM $40,000 PER THE CONTRACT. AND THE ONLY TIME WE ARE GIVING THEM $40,000. NOT ANOTHER TIME? SO I NEED TO REVIEW THAT TO SEE WHY THEY WOULD GIVE THEM SO MUCH

MONEY. >>JUDGE CANALES: AIDAI, COULD YOU ADDRESS IT WITH YOUR MIC. SORRY.

WE HAVE TO HEAR IT. >> THIS IS JUST INCENTIVE FEE OR

CONTRACT IS GIVEN TO THEM. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ:

PRESENTED FOR WHAT? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THEY DO -- THE QUESTION IS, DOES THIS COMPLY WITH THE CONTRACTUAL TERMS? I REMEMBER HAVING THE INCENTIVE FEE IN IT. I DON'T REMEMBER THE SPECIFICS AS WE SIT HERE TODAY, BUT WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS AND READ THIS, I THOUGHT THIS WAS IN COMPLIANCE. I READ THIS ONE QUICKLY LAST WEEK. BUT I MEAN, I THOUGHT THIS WAS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONTRACT. JENNY, HAVE YOU --

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HAVE YOU

LOOKED AT THIS? >> WE TALKED OF THIS AND THAT QUESTION WAS ASKED OF ME YESTERDAY.

I AM HAPPY TO DO THAT BUT I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT CONTRACT YET CHOLESTEROL CHEST COULD WE P

-- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: COULD THE PASS IT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING.

I UNDERSTAND HIS CONCERNS BUT PASS IT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OR AUTHORIZING OR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WILL BE THE RIGHT AMOUNT

IF. >> IT WILL BE VERY SIMPLE TO COMPLETE WHEN I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AND I CAN POINT THAT PART OUT TO YOU IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT WENT THROUGH.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO I WOULD.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE DON'T VOTE ON IT.

JUST THE RIGHT -- >> ONLY AN UPDATE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: YOU WON'T VOTE ON EVERYTHING, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. EITHER YOU COMPLY AND THE AUDITORS PICK UP THE FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS THAT REPORT IT.

IF YOU WANT TO QUESTION THAT, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THAT UP ON AN AGENDA ITEM. TODAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IS THE RIGHT AMOUNT AND THE RIGHT AMOUNT PER THE CONTRACT TO PAY.

IF YOU DON'T PAY IT ON TIME, THEN THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES

FOR THE BREACH. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK SO IT IS. JENNY, FULL JUST LOOK AT IT.

WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, I THOUGHT IT WAS CORRECT BUT IF YOU CAN

VERIFY. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT'S ALL.

>>JUDGE CANALES: BY THE WAY EXACTLY HOW IT HAS BEEN DONE

[9. Discuss and consider supplemental pay for interim Human Resources Director.]