[F. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]

F, PUBLIC COMMENT. AND WE HAVE KATHY WYMER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU KNOW THE PROCESS. THREE MINUTES. YOU CAN BRING ME COFFEE IN A MINUTE.

I DON'T NEED COFFEE. UNTIL I GO. OKAY. OH, JUST A SECOND.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S LOW ENOUGH. OKAY. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. MICHAEL. I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

I'M CATHY WIMMER CHAIRMAN OF MRS COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. WE'RE HAVING A MARKER REDEDICATION.

THE MOST OUTSTANDING EVENT THAT'S ALWAYS WELL REMEMBERED.

NOW, I DON'T REMEMBER IT, BUT I SURELY HAD FAMILY AND FRIENDS THAT DID REMEMBER 1919 STORM.

AND EVERY TIME IT'S MENTIONED, RECOLLECTIONS GO BACK.

BUT WE'RE HAVING A REDEDICATION OF THE MARKER ON THURSDAY, FEBRUARY THE 26TH AT 2:00 AT THE HISTORY PLAZA ON NORTH BEACH.

OKAY. IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE LEXINGTON. AND WE WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT IF YOU COULD ATTEND.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MA'AM. THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT WHO DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN IN? DON'T THINK SO. THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO ITEM G BOARD APPOINTMENTS.

[1. Nueces County Public Defender Office Oversight Board]

G ONE IS OUR NUECES COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.

I KNOW WE HAVE DENNIS HERE. THERE WERE TWO OPENINGS AND THOSE ARE CURRENT MEMBERS.

THEY POSTED BOTH OF THEM LETTERS OF INTENT. SO I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION.

I'LL SECOND YOUR MOTION THEN, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, TO REAPPOINT ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ITEM G TWO, THE NUECES COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICE,

[2. Nueces County Emergency Service District No. 3]

DISTRICT THREE. THERE ARE FOUR OPENINGS. THERE ARE THREE LETTERS OF INTENT AND TWO ADDITIONAL APPLICATIONS, I BELIEVE. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. AND THIS IS YOUR AREA.

SO WHICHEVER ONE OF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE LEAD ON THIS, YOU TELL THE EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT.

YES, SD NUMBER THREE, I UNDERSTAND YOU BOTH HAVE THIS AREA.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT MICHAEL ZAMORA SECOND.

AND THAT MOTION WOULD BE CONTINGENT UPON RECEIVING MR. ZAMORA'S LETTER OF RESIGNATION FROM HIS SCHOOL BOARD.

SERVICE. AND WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WOULD YOU?

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I GUESS WE'LL DO THE OTHER UNDERSTANDING. HE CANNOT SERVE ON BOTH.

THAT'S TRUE. BUT THERE ARE FOUR OPENINGS. THERE WERE THREE CURRENT MEMBERS THAT WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON TWO BOARDS.

WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT ONE. YEAH, WE'LL VOTE ON THAT ONE FIRST. I DIDN'T KNOW IF HE WANTED TO MAKE THAT PART OF HIS MOTION TO CHANGE. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPOINT MICHAEL ZAMORA. AND CONTINGENT UPON. WE GET THE LETTER.

I KNOW HE HAS ALREADY STATED HE WILL RESIGN FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD.

THAT IS A REQUIREMENT. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

NOW AND, YOUR HONOR, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT THE INCUMBENTS THAT HAVE APPLIED FOR REAPPOINTMENT.

SECOND, THE THREE LETTERS OF INTENT. YES, YES, THEY'RE CURRENTLY SERVING.

AND THOSE NAMES ARE. SORRY. JAVIER CARRILLO, RUSSELL JUNGMANN, KEVIN KUIPER AND KEVIN KUIPER. YES. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

SO MOVING ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT ANY COMMISSIONER

[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]

WISHES TO PULL OUT FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? MOTION TO APPROVE AS SUBMITTED.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM 3A1. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADOPTING THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE DECEMBER

[1. Discuss and consider adopting the Meeting Minutes from December 10th & December 17th & January 14th & January 28th and all related matters. ]

10TH AND THE DECEMBER 17TH AND JANUARY 14TH AND JANUARY 28TH MINUTES AND ALL RELATED MATTERS.

CAN WE GET A COPY OF THE MINUTE? THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ATTACHED.

RIGHT? YES. AND SO MOVED. DEANDRA, FROM MY OFFICE.

THE GIRLS GO OVER THOSE AND WATCH THE VIDEO AS WELL.

SO I WILL SECOND YOUR MOTION. COMMISSIONER. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR ANY CHANGES OR.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM THREE A2 DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION TO APPROVE ISSUANCE AND EXECUTION OF WORK

[2. Discuss, consider, and take action to approve issuance and execution of Work Authorization No. 3 under the Engineer Master Services Contract with Hanson Professional Services, Inc., for Phase 1 of the planning, meetings, coordination, asbestos survey, and asbestos abatement design in preparation for the demolition of the 1914 Nueces County Courthouse; and all related matters.]

AUTHORIZATION NUMBER THREE UNDER THE ENGINEER MASTER SERVICE CONTRACT WITH HANSON PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR PHASE ONE OF THE PLANNING MEETING COORDINATION, ASBESTOS SURVEY AND ASBESTOS ABATEMENT FOR THE 1914 COURTHOUSE AND COMMISSIONER.

I BELIEVE YOU'VE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THIS. WOULD YOU WANT TO? YES, MA'AM. WE'VE WE'VE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO INTO THE OLD COURTHOUSE AND BASICALLY DETERMINE WHAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED PRIOR TO THE DEMOLITION.

AND I HAVE PAUL HERE WITH HANSON IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR FOR HANSON.

BUT WE'VE GONE OVER THIS. WE REVIEWED THIS WITH LEGAL AND HAVE AN AGREEMENT ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

THERE WAS SOME PRIOR ASBESTOS REMEDIATION STUDIES AND REMOVAL DONE BACK WHEN THEY REMODELED THE ONE WING OF THE OLD COURTHOUSE.

AND WE HAVE BEEN UNABLE WE'VE HAD EVERYBODY BUT SHERLOCK HOLMES LOOKING FOR THAT DOCUMENT, AND WE CAN'T FIND IT. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A REPEAT OF SOME OF THAT WORK.

IT'S UNFORTUNATE WE HAVE TO DO THAT. BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE CARRY OFF DOCUMENTS THAT BELONG TO THE, THE COMMUNITY. SO ANYWAY, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS MOVE FORWARD.

I'LL SECOND THE MOTION AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COURT MAY HAVE.

ANY DISCUSSION I WOULD LIKE TO ADD AT THE END, I THINK THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THIS.

AND I TALKED TO TERESA, AND I AM GOING TO USE THE COUNTY JUDGE CEO FUNDING THAT THE 2016 CEOS FOR THIS, I THINK WE HAD DISCUSSED POSSIBLY IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH A LARGE PROJECT AND GOING TO COST THE COUNTY.

THERE'S I MEAN, IT'S GREAT THAT THE COMMISSIONER WENT OUT AND WE HAVE POTENTIAL FUNDS FROM THE BOARD TO TEAR DOWN AND EVERYTHING, BUT THERE ARE STILL GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO INCUR QUITE EXTENSIVELY, AND MAYBE EVEN A PORTION OF THE TEAR DOWN IF WE DON'T GET ANY MORE FUNDING FOR THAT.

SO IT WAS MY THOUGHT TO HIM TO SAVE THOSE KIND OF ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL COUNTYWIDE FUNDS TO A LATER DATE, AND FOR ME TO JUST USE MY CEOS TO GET THIS DONE RIGHT AWAY.

SO, JUDGE, CAN I JUST ASK A GENERAL QUESTION?

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FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THANKS TO YOU AND ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE, GETTING THE STUFF REMOVED. AND TO COMMISSIONER PUGSLEY FOR TAKING THIS ON AND MOVING THIS FORWARD. IT'S GREAT. GREATLY APPRECIATED. MY QUESTION IS, I'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND I KNOW IT'S KIND OF IT'S RELATED TO THIS.

I'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE REACH OUT AND SAY, ASK ME IF THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO GET PARTS.

YOU KNOW, LIKE A BRICK OR SOMETHING FROM THE COURTHOUSE AT SOME POINT. I KNOW WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT I GET THAT CONSTANTLY. AND I KIND OF TELL THEM, I THINK SO, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT AT SOME POINT, PUT THAT OUT AND LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD BE, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT OF INTEREST IN PEOPLE WANTING SOMETHING FROM THERE IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY.

YOU'RE CORRECT. COMMISSIONER WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF REQUESTS.

I'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE CALL ME. A LADY CONTACTED ME THE OTHER DAY.

HER MOTHER WORKED FOR YEARS AND YEARS IN THE OLD COURTHOUSE.

AND SO ANYWAY, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO WORK SOMETHING OUT ON THAT.

AND OF COURSE WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION OWNS THAT BUILDING.

SO WE'LL GATHER PERMISSION FROM THEM ON WHAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO AND THEN GO FORWARD FROM THERE.

PERFECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE. AND I THINK SOME OF THAT WILL BE ON HOW WE WRITE THE BID PROPOSAL UP ON THE DEMOLITION AS WELL.

IF THE CONTRACTOR WILL GET GIVE US A BREAK ON ANY OF THAT.

SO SOME OF THAT WILL ALL BE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT.

SO YEAH. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER PAISLEY AND I SECOND, SORRY, YOU WERE LOOKING AT ME LIKE YOU WERE LOST. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

JUDGE. I'M SORRY. YES. ITEM NUMBER THREE. YES, JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO.

I'M GOING TO TABLE THIS. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. DON'T LET ME BEFORE I MAKE THE MOTION.

I REALLY DON'T WANT THE COUNTY TO VENTURE INTO THE WATER BUSINESS.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY. I DON'T WANT TO STEP ON ANY TOES OR SEND ANY MESSAGES, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE WATER BUSINESS. SO I'M GOING TO TABLE THIS AND AND MAYBE TALK TO THE CITY AND SEE IF THEY HAVE AN INTEREST AND IF THEY WANT SOME INTEREST, AND MAYBE DEVELOPING AN MOU AND LET THEM RUN WITH IT.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD CONCEPT, BUT I DON'T THINK THE COUNTY HAS ANY BUSINESS IN THE WATER BUSINESS.

AND I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS TO SAY I'M THINKING IT FOR JUST FOR DISCUSSION.

I'M JUST GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, COMMISSIONER. I WAS GOING TO ASK TO BE GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR SOME LEGAL ISSUES ANYWAY, BUT YEAH, I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT AND INDEFINITELY.

SECOND YOUR MOTION. OH, DID YOU SECOND IT. YOU SECONDED IT ALREADY.

SORRY, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. YES, BUT I GOT SOME MATERIAL TO PASS OUT ANYWAY, SINCE WE'RE GOING TO TABLE INDEFINITELY, I JUST I GOT SOME MATERIAL I NEED TO PASS OUT LATER ON TO THE COMMISSIONERS LATER ON.

YOU CAN GET SANDRA TO SHARE THAT WITH THEM. AND THEY CAN SHARE IT WITH ALL OF OUR OFFICES.

YES. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION IS. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS TABLED.

THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

[4. Discuss and consider upcoming Commissioners Court meeting date(s), workshop date(s), and related matters.]

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER UPCOMING COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING DATES, WORKSHOP DATES AND RELATED MATTERS.

IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE OTHERS HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH IT OR WHAT THAT MAY BE.

MARCH 11TH IS SPRING BREAK WITH SOME OF THE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE TRAVELING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE CAN KEEP THEM THE SAME. OR IF SOMEONE SUGGESTS WE NEED TO MAYBE CHANGE.

I JUST SAID I WOULD BRING IT UP AND SEE IF ANYBODY WANTED TO DO ANYTHING ON IT.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS NO ACTION. NO, NOT AT THIS POINT.

OKAY. THAT COULD CHANGE. MAYBE BRING UP THE NEXT MEETING? YES. OKAY, WELL, RIGHT NOW WE'RE LEAVING IT AS IS, SO THANK YOU.

THERE'S NO MOTION ON THAT. AND THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

ANY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT ONE? JUDGE, CAN WE TALK? CAN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT? THIS SPECIAL MEETING IS ON THE 30TH OF APRIL, THE 30TH OF APRIL, AND WE'RE JUST MOVING THE DATE, IS THAT RIGHT? WHAT DO WE OWE THE LUNCHEON? THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE LUNCHEON THAT WE'RE THE ONES THAT ASKED FOR THAT.

BECAUSE. YES. OKAY. THAT WAS OUR ASK. YES. OKAY.

WE PROBABLY. MAYBE. DO YOU WANT TO JUST MOVE THE.

YOU WANT TO MOVE? IF EVERYBODY WANTS TO MOVE IT, THEN MOVE IT. IT DOESN'T MATTER.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. BUT, YOU KNOW, DURING SPRING BREAK OR WHAT? THE 11TH TO THE 18TH OR JUST HAVE ONE MEETING.

IS THERE TWO IN MARCH? WHAT ARE THE DATES? IT'S UP TO Y'ALL.

11TH IN THE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE KIDS IN SCHOOL THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED? I MEAN I DIDN'T SEE MUCH. MOVE IT FROM THE 11TH TO THE 18TH. THEN WE HAVE BACK TO BACK. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT WITH NOW WITH THE RULES CHANGE AND THE TURNING IN IS WE HAVE A MEETING

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ON WEDNESDAY. WE HAVE TO POST THE AGENDA THE NEXT DAY WHEN WE HAVE BACK TO BACK MEETINGS, SO THERE IS NOT MUCH TIME TO PREPARE.

I GUESS WE COULD. WE CAN ALWAYS DO A SPECIAL MEETING IF WE THINK THERE'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED OR SOMETHING, BUT. AND WHAT WAS A SPECIAL MEETING ABOUT AGAIN NOW? APRIL THE 30TH, WE CHANGED THE DATE FOR THE ROBSTOWN EDUCATION FOUNDATION OR THEIR LUNCHEON THERE.

OH, YEAH. OKAY. THERE WAS SOME. WE ASKED IF THAT WAS AVAILABLE A WHILE BACK, BUT.

GOTCHA. OKAY. THIS ONE I. I'M WILLING TO DO WHATEVER.

I JUST WANT TO CAUTION YOU ALL ON. THAT'S A LOT OF WORK ON YOUR STAFF AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND GETTING THINGS TURNED IN IN TIME, BECAUSE WE'RE IN COURT THE DAY BEFORE, AND THE NEXT DAY WE POST.

WE CANNOT EXTEND. WE CAN WE? WE WILL BE VERY HARD ON STAFF AND DEPARTMENT HEADS AND TURNING IN THOSE THINGS ON THE TIME FRAME THAT THEY'RE REQUESTED.

SO. BUT I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT IF SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE THAT MOTION.

I ALMOST PREFER WE DO JUST THE ONE MEETING IN MARCH BECAUSE OF SPRING BREAK, AND SO MANY PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING AND OUT, OR THE FAMILIES OR THE COMMUNITY OR WHATEVER WITH THEIR KIDS.

SO IF WE DO ONE MEETING JUDGE, CAN WE STILL CALL A SPECIAL MEETING EVEN IF YOU NEED IT? YES, ABSOLUTELY. ANYTIME. WELL, WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION TO THAT THEN TO CANCEL THE MEETING AND JUST HAVE THE 25TH FOR MARCH. UNLESS. WHEN WILL WE JUST CALL A SPECIAL MEETING? WE DON'T HAVE TO SAY UNLESS WE HAVE ONE. SO. RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO DO THAT. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. I'M THE ONE THAT SAID WE NEED TO GET.

IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. I THINK IT'S BETTER THAN HAVING THE BACK TO BACK LIKE THAT.

WE WILL CANCEL THE MEETING ON THE 11TH. OKAY.

OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? DOES ANYONE HAVE A PROBLEM? EVERYBODY OKAY? AND WE CAN HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING IF SOMETHING COMES UP THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.

AND PART OF THE YOU KNOW. YEAH, THE THE ONLY THING I COULD THINK OF THAT MIGHT COME UP IS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE OLD COURTHOUSE, BUT WE CAN PROBABLY PUT OFF WHATEVER WE'RE DOING THERE.

BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE THAT MUCH TIME FOR US TO GET SOME OF THIS STUFF DONE.

WE JUST GET BE SURE AND GET STAFF TO EMAIL. EACH OF OUR ASSISTANTS, THE CHANGES HERE AND ESPECIALLY THE DATE OF THE THE ROBSTOWN EDUCATION FOUNDATION, THE 30TH OF APRIL.

ALL THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE THEM COMING UP. TULOSO, CALALLEN, ROBSTOWN BRANT, LONDON HAVE ONE AS WELL.

THEY DON'T ALWAYS HAVE IT ON OUR COURT DATES, BUT THIS ONE JUST HAPPENED TO FALL ON OUR COURT DATE IS WHAT MADE IT.

BUT WE NEED TO GET. WE DO NEED TO BE PROTECTED.

WE NEED TO TRACK ALL THOSE. YEAH. WE CAN GET STAFF TO LOOK THOSE UP AND SEND IT TO OUR OFFICES.

THAT'D BE WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CANCEL OUR MARCH 11TH MEETING.

AND KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE CAN CALL A SPECIAL MEETING IF THE NEED ARISES.

SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO COASTAL PARKS.

[1. Discuss and consider approving Change Order No. 4 to the agreement with Callan Marine, Ltd. for construction of the Bob Hall Pier Rebuild project, to add additional charges and work; and related matters.]

B, I SEE SCOTT CROSS BACK THERE. ITEM ONE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING CHANGE ORDER NUMBER FOUR TO THE AGREEMENT WITH CALLON MARINE LIMITED.

SCOTT HARRIS IS HERE. I SAW HIM WALK INTO SCOTT CROSS FIRST.

TAKE OVER. YES, I HEARD YOU TALKING ABOUT IT.

SO IF YOU JUST WANT TO TAKE OVER ON B ONE, THIS IS CHANGE ORDER AND YOU CAN EXPLAIN IT BETTER.

I KNOW I WAS IN A COUPLE OF THOSE MEETINGS AS WELL, SO THANK YOU.

YES, JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS CHANGE ORDER FOR FOR CAL MARINES CONTRACT INCLUDES SEVERAL ITEMS OF ADDITIONAL WORK THAT THE CONTRACTOR PERFORMED ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WAS IN THEIR SCOPE OF WORK FOR THEIR CONTRACTING.

IT INCLUDES ADDITIONAL DECKING SCREWS. SOME WORK TO FILL GAPS WHERE THE ADA RAMP MEETS THE PIER.

THE THE LIST IS IS THERE IN YOUR DOCUMENTS. IT'S THERE'S LIKE 5 OR 6 DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CAL DID THAT WAS BENEFICIAL FOR THE PIER, BENEFICIAL FOR THE COUNTY. THEY SHOULD BE PAID FOR THAT WORK.

IT WAS NOT IN THEIR ORIGINAL SCOPE OF WORK. SO THAT'S WHAT'S COVERED IN CHANGE ORDER FOR EVERYONE IS SIGNED OFF ON THIS.

GOT EVERYBODY, ALL OF YOU GUYS THAT HAVE BEEN OUT THERE OVERSEEING THIS JOB, I, I WOULD I GUESS I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE FIRST.

WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION SECOND. SECOND THE ON THE BACK OF THE ITEM THAT IS POSTED, IT SAYS APPROVE CHANGE.

ORDER NUMBER FOUR WILL RESULT IN ADDITIONAL CHARGES OF 110, BRINGING THE TOTAL COST OF THIS AGREEMENT.

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THAT'S JUST THE TOTAL COST THAT'S BEEN PAID OUT.

I WOULD ASSUME THE TOTAL COST OF THE BOB HALL PIER AGREEMENT IS MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT, ISN'T IT? OR IS THAT AM I MISTAKEN? IS THAT THE TOTAL? I'M NOT AWARE.

I'M NOT AWARE OF WHAT'S IN YOUR. YEAH. IT SAYS 18 MILLION.

YEAH. THAT'S THE COST IS MORE. I THINK THAT MUST JUST BE WHAT'S BEEN PAID OUT.

COUNCIL CONTRACT IS 18 MILLION, JUDGE. OH, OKAY.

THERE'S THE PIER, THERE'S THE DEMOLITION, THERE'S THE ROADS THERE. YOU'RE THINKING ALL OF THOSE WERE. OH, THE WHOLE COST FOR THE. YES.

OKAY. THERE'S A THERE'S A LARGER BUDGET FOR THE PROJECT.

I THINK IT'S JUST A LITTLE MISLEADING TO OTHER PEOPLE WHO LOOK AT OUR AGENDAS AND STUFF WHO THINK, WOW, 18 MILLION. WHY DID WE DO THE 27 OR THE TOTAL IN THIS PROJECT REMAINS UNDER BUDGET, BY THE WAY.

IT ALWAYS HAS. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN UNDER BUDGET FOR THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

SO WE STILL WE STILL ARE UNDER BUDGET WITH THIS CHANGE ORDER.

AND I THINK TERESA CONFIRMED THAT AS WELL. THERE'S STILL THIS IS PART OF THIS IS WHAT'S LEFT IN OUR CONTINGENCY THAT WE WHEN WE DID THE BUDGETING FOR THIS, WE PUT FORTH A VERY LARGE CONTINGENCY FOR THESE EXACT REASONS.

BUT THIS IS THE THE CORRECT AMOUNT BASED ON WHAT THE MARINE CONTRACT IS.

AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING, JUDGE, WOULD BE THE ROAD WORK.

THE THAT'S NOT COULON, THE PARKING AREA, WHICH IS NOT COULON, THE RESTAURANT WHICH IS NOT COULON.

THE DEMOLITION, WHICH WAS NOT I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I WAS JUST SAYING THIS IS A LITTLE MISLEADING TO SOMEONE ELSE WHO'S LOOKING AT OUR AGENDA.

MAYBE TO PUT. I GUESS THIS AGREEMENT DOES CLARIFY THIS COULON AGREEMENT.

YOU KNOW, AGREEMENT MAYBE, OR SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE TO OUR STAFF WHO WRITES THIS UP? $18 MILLION? YEAH. WHEN YOU SEE THAT, EVERYBODY IS THE FIRST THING THAT WAS.

BUT IT'S ACCURATE BECAUSE WE'RE JUST AMENDING KALON'S CONTRACT.

SO THIS IS HOW YOU HAVE TO PUT IT OUT. IS THE KALON CONTRACT.

IS THIS 18 MILLION? WE'RE NOT AMENDING ANYTHING ELSE.

SO THIS IS ACTUALLY HOW IT HAS TO BE WRITTEN.

I DIDN'T SAY THAT. I JUST SAID THEY NEED TO PUT THIS AGREEMENT WITH KALON OR SOMETHING TO MAKE IT A LITTLE CLEARER.

IT JUST SAYS THIS AGREEMENT AT THE BACK, THE FISCAL IMPACT ON THE BACK PAGE, IF SOMEONE ELSE IS LOOKING AT IT, THE AGREEMENT TO SOMEONE ON THE OUTSIDE, THE COMMENTS I HAD A PHONE CALL ABOUT WAS, WOW, THIS IS REALLY THE WHOLE BOB HALL PIER.

AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO POINT THIS OUT, THAT WHOEVER DID THE LANGUAGE ON THIS, IF YOU JUST LIKE, AT LEAST SPECIFY THE MORE DETAIL. THIS IS THE KALON AGREEMENT.

THIS IS A KALON AGREEMENT ONLY. YES. BECAUSE IT KIND OF BROUGHT ATTENTION LIKE, WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF MONEY LEFT OVER.

I WAS LIKE, WE HAVE CONTINGENCY, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY LEFT OVER AND WE'RE NOT FINISHED.

SO. SO CAN I ASK REAL QUICKLY, SCOTT. SO THESE ALL THREE OF THESE CHANGE ORDERS.

IS THAT THE 3.8 MILLION THAT'S SHOWN IN RED HERE ON OUR ATTACHMENT FOR THAT IT SAYS ADD PREVIOUS CHANGE ORDER AMOUNTS.

THE TOTAL AMOUNT IS $3,887,397. AND 13 IS THAT INCLUDE THESE THREE CHANGE ORDERS? IS THAT THE SUM TOTAL OF THOSE? SO CHANGE ORDER ONE REDUCED KELLAN'S CONTRACT BY ABOUT 800,000.

YEAH, IT WAS A 52 FOR 17. THANK YOU. SCOTT. CHANGE ORDER TWO.

REDUCE THEIR CONTRACT AGAIN BY 3.1 MILLION. OKAY.

CHANGE ORDER THREE INCREASED THEIR CONTRACT AND NOW CHANGE ORDER FOUR INCREASES THEIR CONTRACT BY 110.

SO SO WE'RE SO THE SECOND ONE THOUGH WAS TO TAKE AWAY FROM THEM AND GIVE TO ANOTHER CONTRACTOR.

SO IT WAS TO DEDUCT THAT GOT TRANSFERRED TO THE LMC WHO'S DOING THE RESTAURANT BECAUSE CALLON ORIGINALLY WAS DOING THE RESTAURANT, THEY DECIDED THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO THE RESTAURANT. THEN WE HAD TO DEDUCT THAT AMOUNT AND GIVE IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

I GOT YOU. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT, LIKE HE SAID. THAT'S WHY DESPITE.

WELL OUT THERE, WE WE'RE STILL ON. WE'RE STILL ON BUDGET ON THIS.

YEAH, I HAVE A I JUST NEED SOME. I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK BEHIND DOORS, BUT MAYBE I CAN DISCUSS IT HERE.

I HATE I'M GOING TO CONFUSE. I KNOW WE FEAR GOOD THINGS AND BAD THINGS ABOUT CAL AND MARINE AND YEAH, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE BEHIND THE SCENES. WELL, COMMISSIONER THAT'S YOU'RE GETTING INTO.

JUST BE CAREFUL. I WANTED TO GO BEHIND THE SCENE ON THIS ONE BECAUSE I GOT SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. THAT'S FINE. THE ATTORNEY FOR THE LAWYERS THEN.

I'M NOT I'M NOT VERY HAPPY WITH THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST SOMETHING I KEEP HEARING DIFFERENT THINGS.

I JUST THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET INTO SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'VE HEARD, BUT I'M JUST SAYING I. BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, BUT I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE CAN WE CAN PULL IT INTO EXECUTIVE.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY BOTHERS ME IS THE FACT THAT.

SO WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR WORKING IN ONE OF OUR PROJECTS, AND HE GOES AND DO A BUNCH OF WORK THAT WE DIDN'T AUTHORIZE.

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WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND PAY HIM. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I MEAN, SO IT'S OKAY TO DO IT, AND THEN WE'RE PAYING YOU LATER WITHOUT IT, WITHOUT GETTING APPROVAL.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THIS THIS THIS IS. I'M JUST SAYING IT COULD HAPPEN TO ONE OF US, RIGHT? SO. SO WE'RE SAYING IT'S OKAY TO DO IT, I GUESS, BUT.

AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE BEHIND THOSE TWO ALSO. BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET TO IT.

I WANT TO CAN WE CAN WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES, COMMISSIONER. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHERS, IF YOU COULD HAVE SOMEBODY EMAIL THEM TO ME, I CAN HAVE SOMEBODY WORKING ON THEM BEFORE WE EVEN GO INTO EXECUTIVE.

SO WE WILL BRING ITEM B1 INTO EXECUTIVE AND ADDRESS IT WHEN WE GET DONE.

WELL, BUT BUT JUST FROM THE STANDPOINT OF IS THIS OUT OF THE ORDINARY THAT WE'RE ARE WE DOING ANYTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY ON THIS? NO, SIR. I MEAN, THIS IS HOW WE NORMALLY PROCEED WITH CHANGE ORDERS OR ANY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WE'VE EVER HAD.

YEAH, WE'VE THIS IS THE SAME WAY WE ALWAYS DO IT.

SO I DON'T WANT TO LEAD THE PUBLIC INTO BELIEVING.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT HE MEANT TO DO, BUT I DON'T WANT TO LEAD THE PUBLIC INTO BELIEVING THAT THIS IS ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN WE'VE DONE IN ANY OTHER PROJECT OR ANY OTHER CHANGE ORDER THAT I'VE SEEN ON THIS PROJECT, AND A HUNDRED OTHERS IN THIS COUNTY.

I DON'T I DON'T KNOW OF ANY DIFFERENCE HERE, BUT THIS WAS YOU'RE STILL UNDER BUDGET, SO.

EXACTLY RIGHT. I MEAN, WE'RE JUST LIKE I SAID, DESPITE WHAT GETS PUT OUT ON THE INTERNET, WE'RE STILL UNDER BUDGET ON THE PIER. BUT, YOU KNOW, AND SO I DON'T AND I APPARENTLY APPARENTLY ACCORDING TO THE INTERNET, WE'RE NOT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE. AND SO AND THIS IS A CHANGE ORDER.

IT'S THE SAME WAY WE DO CHANGE ORDERS AND EVERY OTHER CHANGE ORDER WE'VE DONE ON THIS PROJECT AND ANY OTHER THAT I CAN THINK OF, RIGHT? I MEAN, AM I MISSING SOMETHING? THIS IS WORK THAT WAS WAS WAS RESEARCHED. IT WAS VETTED.

WE WE CHECKED COSTS. WE EVALUATED THE CONTRACTOR'S PROPOSALS TO DO THIS WORK.

WE APPROVED THIS WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COUNTY.

IT IT'S TO THE BENEFIT OF THE PEER. IT'LL MAKE THE PEER THE LIFE SPAN LONGER.

SO IT IS IT'S CONSTRUCTION MANAGER. EVERYBODY LOOKED OVER THESE AND APPROVED THESE.

IT'S BEEN VETTED. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE CLEAR RIGHT HERE IN THIS COURTROOM RIGHT NOW.

IF THE CONTRACTOR GOES TO DO THIS ON HIS OWN BECAUSE HE THINKS IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THE THE COUNTY BENEFIT EVERYBODY ELSE, IT'S OKAY. RIGHT. AND WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND WE'RE GOING TO PAY HIM.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER DONE CHANGE ORDERS LIKE THIS.

WHEN A CONTRACTOR DOES THINGS ON HIS OWN, THEN THEY COME BACK AND CHARGE US.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE'RE GETTING YOUR APPROVAL RIGHT NOW. WE HAVEN'T PAID IT. YEAH. WE HAVEN'T PAID THIS WELL, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY IT ANYWAY. NO WE'RE NOT, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY DENIED SOME OF THE STUFF THAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR. SO WE DON'T WE DON'T APPROVE IT IF IT'S NOT APPROVED.

WE HAVEN'T PAID IT UNTIL WE BRING IT TO COURT TO BE AN ONGOING THING WITH WITH THIS COMPANY HERE, THAT IT'S ALWAYS AN ISSUE. IT'S ALWAYS AN ISSUE ON HOW THEY DO BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, MY TAKE ON THIS COMMISSIONER IS MORE LIKE THE ROOF PROJECT, WHERE THAT ONCE THEY GOT INTO IT, THEY WE FAILED TO LOOK AT THINGS THAT THE OIL BELT, WE FAILED TO THINK ABOUT THE BENCHES AND THE AND THE THIS IS MORE LIKE THE ADA RAMPS AND STUFF THAT, THAT WE MISSED. THAT HAS TO BE DONE.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR IT. WELL, I MEAN, THAT'S WHY I DON'T I DON'T REALLY DON'T CARE.

I MEAN THEY'RE, THEY'RE THEY'RE UNDER BUDGET, BUT STILL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH UNDER BUDGET YOU ARE, BUT IF YOU DO THINGS TO GO HIGHER ON THE BUDGET, YOU'RE GOING TO DO THINGS TO GO HIGHER IN THE BUDGET.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I JUST I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE JUDGE THAT IT'S WHAT'S GOOD FOR ONE CONTRACTOR TO DO IS GOING TO BE GOOD FOR ANOTHER CONTRACTOR.

DO NOT DISAGREE WITH THAT AT ALL. AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE SAME WAY WE'VE DONE THE MEDICAL EXAMINER FACILITY THE SAME WAY WE'VE DONE OIL BELTS SAME WAY. THE SAME WAY. YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HAVEN'T DONE SOMETHING THAT WE THAT WE DIDN'T APPROVE BEFORE.

I CAN ASSURE YOU COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE THAT HAS NOT.

CAN YOU PUSH THE MICROPHONE UP? I KNOW IT WAS DOWN FOR CATHY.

YES. SO CAROLYN HAS NOT DONE ANY WORK ON THEIR OWN.

THAT'S BEEN UNAUTHORIZED BY BY THE COUNTY. THEY THEY WILL ONLY PROCEED ONCE APPROVED.

THAT'S WHAT YOU JUST SAID TODAY. THEY'VE DONE SOME WORK.

WE APPROVED THEM TO. WE EVALUATED THEIR PROPOSALS AND APPROVED THE WORK AT THE BEGINNING FOR THEM TO DO IT.

OKAY. THAT'S WHY WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ON IT. YOU CAN.

I'M NOT I DON'T I JUST REMEMBERED. WE HAVE TO REMEMBER IN THE FUTURE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.

SO YES, LIKE I SAID, AND COMMISSIONER, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE ME, WE'VE DENIED PLENTY OF THEIR CHANGE ORDER REQUESTS AND HAVEN'T PAID FOR THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T APPROVED. AND IT'S WAY MORE THAN WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED.

I MEAN, OKAY, ALL RIGHT. I DON'T TAKE IT OFF EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I JUST TAKE A VOTE. OKAY, SURE. YEAH. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE.

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CHANGE ORDER NUMBER FOUR. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YES, JUDGE. YES. GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER MEADOWS. SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A, I GUESS, A SAVINGS.

WE'RE BELOW BUDGET RIGHT NOW, CORRECT? RIGHT.

WE'RE BELOW BUDGET. YES. COMMISSIONER. BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE ABSORBED INTO THE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THAT HAVE YET TO BE BUILT.

IS THAT WHERE THAT FUNDING IS GOING OR WHERE IS THAT FUNDING GOING? WE'RE NOT DONE WITH THE PIER.

RIGHT? AND WE'RE NOT DONE WITH THE RESTAURANT.

SO THIS IS STILL PART OF OUR CONTINGENCY. AND WE, YOU KNOW, THINGS COME UP IN CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE TO ANTICIPATE.

AND THAT'S WHY WE WERE WISE IN BUDGETING A LARGE CONTINGENCY, BECAUSE CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE GONE UP, THINGS HAVE GONE UP, THINGS HAPPEN. WE FIND STUFF JUST LIKE IN ANY OTHER CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

SO UNTIL THE PIER AND RESTAURANT ARE COMPLETE, WE, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE ABSORBED INTO THAT CONTINGENCY.

AND IF THERE'S LEFTOVER AT THE END, THEN WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH IT AS A COURT.

I MEAN, YEAH, OKAY. I'M OKAY WITH THAT. AND I WANT IT DONE THE RIGHT WAY.

I MEAN, I'M EXCITED TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE RIBBON CUTTING, RIBBON CUTTING COMING UP IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND THAT AT LEAST THE PIER PART WILL BE OPENED. AND. MY MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS OBVIOUSLY THE PRICE TAG.

I MEAN, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IT. YOU KNOW, FROM DAY ONE, I HAVE VOTED ON EVERYTHING TO SUPPORT BOB HOPE HERE.

NEVER HAVE VOTED AGAINST ANY ITEM FOR IT. EVEN WHEN SOME MOTIONS WERE KILLED OR A VERY TIGHT VOTE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MINDFUL OF THE OF THE BALANCE THAT WE HAVE LEFT.

IF THERE IS A BALANCE SO THAT IT CAN BE APPLIED TO ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS.

YOU KNOW, I'LL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN VERY MINDFUL, A GREAT WATCHDOG, VERY CONSERVATIVE ON THIS BUDGET. YOU AND THE ENTIRE TEAM TO HELP US KEEP THE COST DOWN.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WILL KEEP ME SUPPORTING IT.

AND THE FACT THAT IF THERE IS ANY MONEY LEFT, THEN BRING IT BACK TO THE COURT.

AND THEN, LIKE YOU SAID, THEN WE CAN DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH THE BALANCE THERE.

BUT AS LONG AS YOU CAN TELL ME YOU DON'T ANTICIPATE NEEDING TO COME BACK FOR A WHOLE LOT MORE, I'LL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS. I KNOW WE CAN'T PREDICT EVERYTHING, BUT LIKE I SAID FROM DAY ONE, I'VE BEEN HERE TO SUPPORT THIS. BUT IF IT GOES YOU KNOW, TO WHERE THE PRICE FAR EXCEEDS THE BALANCE OR THE ESTIMATED PRICE FOR THE FINISH, THE REST OF IT UP FAR EXCEEDS WHAT ANY POTENTIAL BALANCE WE WILL HAVE OR RESERVE THAT WE'LL HAVE LEFT.

THAT WILL MAKE ME TAKE A HARD SECOND LOOK AT THAT.

SO JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S FOR ANY PROJECT.

I MEAN, WE PUT CONTINGENCIES IN ANY PROJECT. I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING IF IT IF ANY PROJECT CAME UP.

OIL BELT MEDICAL EXAMINER, WHOEVER HILLTOP I MEAN, WE WE HAVE CONTINGENCIES.

THIS IS A BIG ONE. THIS IS THE BIG ONE. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IT'S LIKE, HEY, I'M JUST SAYING FROM DAY ONE SUPPORTED IT, BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO FINISH MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT, WHICH WAS, I'M AGREEING WITH YOU.

AND IT WOULD BE LIKE THAT FOR ANY PROJECT. BIG, SMALL AND DIFFERENT.

WE'VE STAYED ON BUDGET ON THIS PIER. IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT TO DO.

WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD AND THE TEAM HAS BEEN OUTSTANDING.

IN FACT, I WOULD RECOMMEND TO ANYBODY ON THIS COURT IF THEY WANTED TO USE THE CONSTRUCTION TEAM WE HAVE.

THEY'RE AS GOOD AS THEY THEY COME. THEY WATCH EVERY NICKEL AND THEY THEY'RE IT'S.

YEAH. BELIEVE ME, IT'S IT'S BEEN A DAUNTING TASK, TO SAY THE LEAST.

BUT AGAIN, WE'RE WE'RE AS WE SIT TODAY AND WHEN WE OPEN ON THE 24TH WE'LL BE UNDER BUDGET.

NOW THAT'S. BUT THEN WE'VE GOT A RESTAURANT TO BUILD AND WE'LL TAKE THAT AS IT COMES AS WELL.

SO THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT TEAM HAS BEEN AWESOME.

I'VE BEEN IN SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS AND AND THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY'VE BROUGHT UP AND THE ARGUMENTS THEY'VE MADE ON THE COUNTY'S BEHALF HAVE BEEN REALLY, REALLY INSTRUMENTAL. I REALLY WISH OUR OTHER PROJECTS WE HAD THE FUNDING TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOGETHER ON OUR SOME OF OUR PROJECTS ARE TOO SMALL AND WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING OR YOU'RE TAKING AWAY FROM TOO MUCH FROM THE PROJECT IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT.

BUT IN THE END, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THE COUNTY NEEDS TO LOOK AT, BECAUSE THE COST SAVINGS AND THE MONEY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE AND DO, IT'S SO BENEFICIAL IF WE COULD FIND A FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT.

IT REALLY HELPS STAY ON OUR CONTRACTORS, HELPS KEEP EVERYONE ON THE SAME PAGE, MAKE SURE WE GET DOCUMENTS AND PAPERWORK APPROVED BEFORE ANYTHING WORK IS ADDITIONAL WORK IS DONE AS WELL. REQUEST KEEPS THE CONTRACTOR AND THE CONTRACTOR I GUESS ON THE SAME PAGE WITH MOVING FORWARD IN ANY OF THIS PROCESS. SO THEY HAVE DONE AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB.

THANK YOU JUDGE. APPRECIATE THAT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

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ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OH. GO AHEAD.

SORRY. GO AHEAD. YOU DIDN'T SPEAK UP. I NEED A I NEED A BUTTON DOWN.

I KNOW, WELL, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE IT. THAT'S OKAY. I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY WITH THE SCOPE AND SIZE OF THIS PROJECT AND THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW, ANY, ANY CONSTRUCTION, I'VE NEVER WORKED ON A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, SEEING A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, OR BEEN INVOLVED IN A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT DIDN'T HAVE CHANGES THAT COME UP.

I DON'T CARE HOW BIG OR SMALL THEY ARE, AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO RECEIVE SOME DEDUCTS FROM THE CONTRACTOR FOR FOR WORK THAT THEY THOUGHT THEY WANTED TO DO AND CHANGE THEIR MIND ABOUT, AND THEN TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THAT OVER AND STILL HAVE CHANGE ORDERS THAT COME IN AND KEEP IT UNDER BUDGET.

IT JUST IT'S A IT'S A REALLY POSITIVE THING. AND I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON LOOKING AT THIS, THIS IS A VERY LARGE, DAUNTING PROJECT. AND SO, ANYWAY, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM.

SCOTT. AND THE TWO SCOTTS THREE, SCOTT ONE AND SCOTT TWO.

BUT THERE'S A COUPLE MORE SCOTTS. SCOTT. Y'ALL CAN FIGURE OUT WHO'S ONE AND TWO I'M NOT GOING TO DO.

BUT ANYWAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS A THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I KNOW THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE OUT ON THE ISLAND.

CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS TO BE OPEN. IF YOU WATCH THE REMARKS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THEY WERE ALL THRILLED TO HEAR ABOUT THE RIBBON CUTTING.

AND SO THIS WILL BE A BIG STEP FORWARD FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WE OUGHT TO TAKE IT IN A VERY POSITIVE LIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. AND I DO WANT TO ADD TO I HOPE EVERYBODY DID GET NOTICED.

AND I WANT TO SAY IT, THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IS INVITED TO OUR RIBBON CUTTING ON THE 24TH AT 11 A.M.

AT BOB HALL PIER. HOPE EVERYONE CAN COME OUT.

IT'S THIS IS A THE COMMUNITY'S PIER. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S A LOT OF EXCITEMENT ABOUT IT, NOT ONLY ON THE ISLAND, BUT FROM ALL OVER NUECES COUNTY AND AFAR.

AND I'VE GOTTEN, YOU KNOW, PRESS PEOPLE CALLING ME FROM SAN ANTONIO.

AND IT'S CRAZY HOW IMPACTFUL THIS THIS PIER IS TO THIS COMMUNITY AND AROUND THE STATE.

SO I HOPE EVERYBODY CAN JOIN AND BE THERE. AND IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, A WONDERFUL THING.

AND I HOPE YOU'LL BRING YOUR YOUR FAMILIES THAT DAY IF THEY WANT TO COME OUT AND BE ON IT AND GET, YOU KNOW, KIDS AND GRANDKIDS TO SKIP SCHOOL. NO. I'M KIDDING. BUT ANYWAY, WE'RE EXCITED.

IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT DAY, AND I APPRECIATE THE COURT'S SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. THANK YOU. YEAH, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. I. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. ITEM NUMBER TWO, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING CHANGE ORDER NUMBER TWO TO THE AGREEMENT WITH LMC CORPORATION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION

[2. Discuss and consider approving Change Order No. 2 to the agreement with LMC Corporation for construction of the IB Magee Phase 2 Boardwalk project, to add additional charges and work; and related matters.]

OF THE IB MAGEE PHASE TWO BOARDWALK PROJECT TO ADD ADDITIONAL CHARGES AND WORK AND RELATED MATTERS.

THIS IS A SMALL CHANGE ORDER AMOUNT. IT DIDN'T GET IN HERE LIKE I WANTED TO, BUT IT'S BEING COVERED UNDER GOMEZ A GRANT FUNDS, SO IT'S NO IMPACT TO THE COUNTY. AND IT'S TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO A PARKING AREA THAT I WANTED TO UPGRADE FROM WHERE IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED TO HAVE STABILIZED SAND UNDERNEATH OF IT. WITHOUT THAT, THOSE GOPHERS CHEW UNDERNEATH THAT AND IT JUST CREATES THESE VOIDS.

SO IT BECOMES A MAINTENANCE ISSUE. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS ONE IS ABOUT.

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION. AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. AND IT IS ON THE AGENDA ITEM THAT IT SAYS IT'S GO MESA.

OH IT IS. OKAY. YES. I DIDN'T SEE IT. I'M SORRY. CORRECT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL KNEW WHERE THE FUNDING WAS COMING FROM. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER THREE. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL AND EXECUTION OF THE TEXAS COAST.

[3. Discuss and consider approval and execution of Texas General Land Office Coastal Lease No. CL20250008 for a period of ten years for the construction of a pier, breakwater structures, and marsh planting at Packery Channel Park as part of the Packery Channel Living Shoreline Enhancement Project; and related matters.]

COASTAL LEASE NUMBER CL 20250008. FOR A PERIOD OF TEN YEARS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A PIER, BREAKWATER, STRUCTURES AND MARSH PLANTING AT PACKER CHANNEL PARK AS PART OF THE PACKER CHANNEL LIVING SHORELINE ENHANCEMENT PROJECT.

YES, MA'AM. THIS IS PRETTY MUCH STANDARD. ANYTIME WE BUILD OVER THE WATER OR BELOW THE MEAN HIGH TIDE LINE, WE HAVE TO GET WHAT'S CALLED A SUBSURFACE LEASE FROM THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE.

WE HAVE THE SAME THING WITH OUR PIERS. THE ONLY THING GOOD ABOUT THIS ONE IS, IS THAT IT'S NOT COSTING US ANY MONEY AT ALL.

THERE'S NO CHARGE. THERE'S NO BONDING LIKE WE HAVE TO DO WITH THE PIERS.

SO I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. SO MOVED. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

MOVING ON TO ITEM C ONE PUBLIC WORKS. MR. PIMENTEL, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO TO WORK

[1. Discuss and consider approval of Amendment No. 2 to Work Authorization No. 1 between Nueces County and International Consulting Engineers (ICE) for the New Driscoll Community Center project located in Precinct No. 1; and related matters.]

AUTHORIZATION NUMBER ONE BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY AND ICE FOR THE NEW DRISCOLL COMMUNITY CENTER PROJECT LOCATED AT PRIEST IN PRECINCT ONE AND RELATED

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MATTERS. JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS JUST A TIME EXTENSION FOR THE CONTRACT, AND IT'S TO JULY 31ST.

IT'S A NO COST CHANGE. ORDER, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS NEW DATE IS THIS ARPA FUNDS? YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. JUST FOR EVERYONE DOING ARPA FUNDS, LET'S BE REALLY COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT ANY OF THESE TIME EXTENSIONS.

SEPTEMBER 30TH IS THE FINAL DATE THIS YEAR FOR ANY PROJECTS.

THEY WILL NOT BE EXTENDED PAST. THEN WE HAVE TO GET THOSE PROJECTS MOVING AND FINISHED THERE.

SO I MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER TWO.

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF CHANGE. ORDER NUMBER ONE WITH RKD, LLC FOR THE NEW DRISCOLL COMMUNITY CENTER PROJECT LOCATED IN PRECINCT ONE.

[2. Discuss and consider approval of Change Order No. 1 with RXDX, LLC for the New Driscoll Community Center project located in Precinct No. 1; and related matters.]

AGAIN, COMMISSIONER PRESLEY. COMMISSIONER. I'M SORRY.

YEAH. GO AHEAD. JUAN. YEAH. JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS JUST A TIME EXTENSION TO RQD, AND IT'S TO APRIL 20TH.

IT'S DUE TO SOME WEATHER DELAYS AND ALSO SOME RECONSTRUCTION THAT THEY HAD TO DO.

SAME MESSAGE AS WELL. YES, MA'AM. NO COST CHANGE ORDER.

YES. OKAY. A MOTION TO APPROVE, YOUR HONOR. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ SECONDED. COMMISSIONER PRESIDENT.

WE'RE VERY CLOSE ON THIS PROJECT. WE'RE 85%, I'D SAY COMPLETE.

YES, SIR. YOU'RE ABOUT 85 TO 90%, COMMISSIONER.

AND WE JUST HAD A LITTLE SETBACK ON A SUBCONTRACTOR THAT CAME IN AND MESSED UP ON AN INSTALLATION OF SIDING ON THE BUILDING, AND WE'RE HAVING TO TAKE THAT OFF AND REDO IT AT THEIR COST.

AND SO THEY JUST NEED A LITTLE TIME. SO. BUT, YOUR HONOR, WE'LL BE DONE WITH THIS PROJECT FAR AHEAD OF THE UNLESS SOMETHING DRASTIC HAPPENS FAR AHEAD OF THE SCHEDULE. I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO BE VERY COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT ARPA HAS STRICT GUIDELINES AND DEADLINES IN THE COURT APPROVED THE SEPTEMBER 30TH DEADLINE FOR ALL OF US TO.

THAT STILL GIVES US TIME TO GET OUR INVOICES IN AND EVERYTHING APPROVED AND PAID BECAUSE THE HARD DEADLINE IS DECEMBER 30TH.

SO MOVING ON TO DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? SORRY, JUAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU ARE DONE. I THOUGHT WE VOTED.

DID WE NOT VOTE? I DON'T THINK WE VOTED. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PARSLEY AND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ SECONDED.

AND I THOUGHT WE VOTED AND BECAUSE. YEAH, MAYBE WE DID.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? WE'LL DO IT TWICE. SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSE? MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MOVING ON TO ITEM BUDGET OFFICE D ONE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE BUDGET.

AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO TABLE THIS ONE.

I'D LIKE TO BRING IT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING.

FEBRUARY 24TH. FOURTH. THE NEXT MEETING. WHATEVER THE NEXT MEETING IS.

THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ON THIS, AND WE NEED TO NOTIFY SOME PEOPLE AND STUFF, SO WE WILL PUT IT BACK ON THE NEXT AGENDA.

MAKE THE MOTION TO TABLE. SO MOVED. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE ITEM D ONE.

AND BRING IT BACK TO THE FIRST THE NEXT MEETING IN FEBRUARY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION IS TABLED TO THE NEXT MEETING. ITEM D TO DISCUSS AND ACCEPT FOR RECORD PURPOSES,

[2. Discuss and accept for record purposes Internal Budget Amendment No. 03 and all related matters.]

INTERNAL BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE AND ALL RELATED MATTERS.

CONSTANCE, YOU WANT TO TELL US ABOUT THAT? SO THESE ARE THREE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS THAT WE ARE ALIGNING THE BUDGETS.

WE'RE WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS. IT'S THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY FUND, THE VOTING MACHINE SINKING FUND AND THE ESCROW FUND.

AND WE RECOMMEND ACCEPTANCE OF THESE. AND I LIKE THAT WE'RE PUTTING THESE ON HERE EVEN JUST FOR RECORD PURPOSES.

IT KIND OF BRINGS TO LIGHT. SO EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THERE.

SO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. SO MOVED. SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND WHOEVER THEY BOTH ALL THREE OF THEM DID IT ABOUT THE SAME TIME.

SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM THREE. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING PROJECT BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE.

[3. Discuss and consider authorizing Project Budget Amendment (PBA) No. 05 and all related matters.]

YES. SO THIS ONE IS ALIGNING THE FUNDS FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE 1919 COURTHOUSE THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER, THE 2016 CEOS THAT I JUST ASKED TO BE TRANSFERRED TO PAY FOR THE THAT'S WHAT THIS IS DOING, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

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ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. ITEM E ONE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING SALES.

[1. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving Sales Quote from Insight Public Sector, under Omnia Partners Cooperative Contract No. 23-6692-03, for purchase of a 3-year Proofpoint Advanced Threat Protection subscription license; and related matters.]

QUOTE FROM INSIGHT PUBLIC SECTOR UNDER OMNIA PARTNERS COOPERATIVE CONTRACT 23 66923 FOR THE PURCHASE OF A THREE YEAR PROOFPOINT ADVANCED THREAT PROTECTION SUBSCRIPTION LICENSE.

AND I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER PUZZLE, YOU HAD BEEN TALKING TO BRIDGET ABOUT THIS.

THIS IS BUDGETED AND IT WILL BRING COST SAVINGS.

BRIEFLY TELL THE COURT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT AND I'LL FILL IN THE BLANKS.

I DIDN'T SEE YOU BACK THERE, BRIDGET. I'M SORRY. HELLO, YOUR HONOR.

HELLO, COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS A AN EMAIL FILTERING SOFTWARE THAT WILL REPLACE OUR CURRENT SYSTEM, WHICH IS CALLED MIMECAST. AND THIS ONE IS WAY MORE ROBUST, HAS A LOT MORE SECURITY CAPABILITIES.

THAT WILL BE MUCH MORE BENEFICIAL FOR US HERE AT THE COUNTY.

IT ALSO HAS A CYBERSECURITY MODULE IN BEDDED IN IT.

SO THAT WAY WE WILL GET RID OF THE OTHER KNOWBE4 SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE FOR THAT AS WELL.

AND THERE WILL ALSO BE A COST SAVINGS FOR US IN THE COUNTY HAVING THOSE TWO EMBEDDED TOGETHER.

AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, ANYBODY LISTENING, IT IS NOT CHANGING ANYBODY'S EMAIL.

THIS IS AN EMAIL. YES. YES. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH.