Aug 20, 2025 Commissioners Court - Regular

[1. In recognition of the Flour Bluff Navy Junior Reserve Officers Training Corps (NJROTC) Resolution honoring their successful 2024-2025 season and trip to the National Championship. ]

[1. In recognition of August 26, 2025 as Women's Equality Day in celebration of the 105th anniversary of women's right to vote.]

[2. In recognition of Labor Day celebration, September 1st, 2025. ]

[G. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]

[2. Discuss and consider the TIDC Mental Health Public Defender grant funding for fiscal year 2026 and all related matters, and approve a resolution in support of accepting continued support from TIDC through its indigent defense improvement grant program.]

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>>> COMMISSIONER MAREZ HAS ASKED IF I WILL GO AHEAD AND BRING IT

[13. Discuss and consider rescinding the motion on July 23, 2025 to reduce North Beach (TIRZ #4) and Downtown (TIRZ #3) to reflect /mirror the Island (TIRZ #2).]

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>> SHE IS THE ONLY OTHER ONE WHO ASKED TO SPEAK.

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>> I WOULD LIKE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

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>> DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST, THANK YOU ARLENE.

>> THANK YOU JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS FOR GETTING THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR RECONSIDERATION. ALL ENTITIES HAVE PARTICIPATED AT 100% SINCE IT STARTED IN 2008 SO THAT HAS BEEN PART OF THE REASON OF THE SUCCESS OF THE TIRZ DOWNTOWN, THE FUNDS WERE ALLOWED TO GO FROM 2008 TWO 2015 LIKE ANY INVESTMENT AND SINCE THEN WE ARE PUT THOSE DOLLARS TO WORK THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN SO WE HAVE LEVERAGED $20 MILLION OF INCENTIVES FOR OVER $210 MILLION IN PRIVATE INVESTMENT THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN SO THAT IS A 10-1 RETURN ON INVESTMENT. NUECES COUNTY CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND DELMAR COLLEGE HAVE BEEN STEADFAST PARTNERS FOR THE LAST 17 YEARS, THE TIRZ IS COMING TO ITS 20 YEAR END AT THE END OF 2028 AND WE KNOW ALL ENTITIES ARE DISCUSSING THE RENEWAL PROCESS AND WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD SO WE ARE ON PINS AND NEEDLES WATCHING AND WAITING, PRAYING, HOPING THAT THE SUCCESS OF THE TIRZ WILL MEAN SOMETHING TO OUR PARTNERS MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE WE ARE AT A MOMENT NOW WHERE WE HAVE A HARBOR BRIDGE ONE BILLION-DOLLAR PROJECT JUST COMPLETED, WE HAVE THE 1959 BRIDGE WITH DEMOLITION ABOUT TO BEGIN ON THAT AND OF COURSE THE DEMOLITION OF THE NUECES COUNTY OLD NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE 1914 SO WE HAVE HISTORY, HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND PUBLIC STRUCTURE COMING DOWN AND AS SOME OF YOU KNOW AND COMMISSIONER PUSLEY SITS ON THE MAYOR TASK FORCE FOR REDEVELOPMENT OF THE DISTRICT SO THERE IS A LOT OF MOVING PIECES, A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOKING AT LAND AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY AND COUNTY AND I BELIEVE THAT TIRZ WILL HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY IN THAT FOR SURE

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TIME THIS MORNING. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER

PUSLEY DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST? >> SURE. WELL, I APPRECIATE EVERYONE BEING HERE THIS MORNING AND EXPRESSING YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN TIRZ. YOU KNOW, I TRY TO REFRAIN FROM BRAGGING ABOUT THINGS I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN, OCCASIONALLY, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I DO LIKE TO BRAG ABOUT IS THE CREATION OF THE DOWNTOWN TIRZ, WHEN I CAME TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT IN 2009, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT BEFORE I CAME HERE VOTED NOT TO JOIN DOWNTOWN TIRZ BECAUSE THEY DID NOT, DELMAR COLLEGE DECIDED NOT TO JOIN. SO I HAD MET WITH THE CITY NUMEROUS TIMES WHILE I WAS CAMPAIGNING ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN TIRZ AND I THOUGHT IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO ESPECIALLY WITH THE FACT THAT AT THAT POINT IN TIME AS MANY OF YOU HAVE STATED THE DOWNTOWN AREA WAS BLIGHT TO SAY THE LEAST AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE CITY AND SOMETHING WE NEEDED TO FOCUS ON.

ONE OF THE VERY FIRST POLITICAL EVENTS THAT I EVER ATTENDED IS WHEN THE FORMER MAYOR TURNER AND , EACH OTHER FOR MAYOR. I WENT TO THE EVENT WHERE THEY BOTH SPOKE AND THE TOPIC WAS HOW TO REVITALIZE DOWNTOWN CORPUS CHRISTI SO THE CONVERSATION GOES BACK A WAYS. I WENT IN AND MET WITH STEVE WATERMAN AND WENT TO THE NUMBERS AND THEN HE AND I WENT AND MET WITH JUDGE AND CONVINCED JUDGE TO PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA AND DISCUSSED AT LENGTH AND THE COURT VOTED TO JOIN THE DOWNTOWN TIRZ AND BECAUSE WE DID THAT SO DEAR DELMAR COLLEGE. SO I HAVE A LONG TIME HISTORY WITH THIS AND I THINK IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITY TO HAVE A STRONG AND VITAL DOWNTOWN AREA. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THIS COUNTY GOVERNMENT TO HAVE A STRONG DOWNTOWN. IF YOU LOOK AT OUR TAX VALUATIONS WHERE MONEY COMES FROM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF IT COMES FROM , 99% OF OUR FUNDING COMES FROM PROPERTY VALUE AND AD VALOREM TAXES AND DOWNTOWN IS A BIG PART OF THAT SO I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT WE TRY TO MAINTAIN THAT. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE NORTH BEACH TIRZ IN A FEW MINUTES, BUT YOUR HONOR I VISITED AT LENGTH WITH HEATHER, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY SAYS ARLENE SENT HE AND I AN EMAIL TO MEET WITH US, I NEVER RECEIVED THE EMAIL, I WENT AND CHECKED AFTER COMMISSIONER CHESNEY SAID THAT AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IS MY EMAIL ADDRESS HERE IS SIMILAR TO THE ONE AT THE CITY AND MAYBE YOU SENT IT TO MY CITY EMAIL I DON'T KNOW I NEVER RECEIVED IT SO I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO BE MEET WITH ARLENE BUT I TALKED WITH HEATHER AT LENGTH ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HEATHER THINKS WE CAN DO IS, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT PART OF THE PROVISIONS IN THE DOWNTOWN TIRZ , SHE THINKS IT CERTAINLY WOULD BE SUPPORTED AND IT IS TO ASK THE REMOVAL OF THE 1914 COURTHOUSE RECEIVED TIRZ FUNDING TO HELP US

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>> GO AHEAD, SORRY. I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT, GO AHEAD. I JUST THINK IN LIGHT OF ITEM NUMBER 12 WHERE WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON DISCUSSING AT A POLICY FOR ALL TIRZ I PERSONALLY THOUGHT WE SHOULD HEAR OUR COMMENTS TODAY , BUT I'M ASSUMING WE ARE GOING TO BRING THIS BACK.

>> JUDGE, I DID NOT KNOW YOU WOULD PUSH 13 I WOULD'VE ASKED FOR 12 TO BE DONE FIRST BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE POLICY THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF DOING THE POLICY.

>> I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH POLICY BUT WE CAN MAKE DISCUSSION ON WHAT WE WANT IN OUR POLICY. THEY ASKED TO BRING US UP SINCE WE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE HERE I DON'T THINK NOW WE ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD ON ANY ACTION NUMBER 13.

I THINK THOSE ARE DISCUSSIONS TO BE HAD.

>> TO JUMP IN, TO SAY THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH ARLENE AND SHE SENT AN EMAIL TO EVERYBODY ON THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, NOT JUST COMMISSIONER PUSLEY AND I, I THINK YOU HAD THE EMAIL ISSUE BEFORE SO WE'VE GOT TO GET IT FIXED. INSTEAD OF GETTING TO A BATTLE WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS RENEGOTIATE THIS ON A LONG-TERM BASIS EVEN THOUGH THERE'S TWO OR THREE YEARS LEFT ON IT AND LOOK AT DOING THAT NOW SO WE SHOULD HAVE SENT OUT OVER AND WE EXPECTED TO HAVE THAT EARLIER SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GET INTO A BATTLE WAS TO JUST START OVER AND MAYBE LOOK AT THAT BUT I AGREE WITH YOU JUDGE WE HAVE THIS POLICY EVERYBODY PUT A MORATORIUM ON EVERYTHING UNTIL WE DID THE POLICY AND THAT IS WHAT WE PASSED AS A MOTION. NOTHING ELSE UNTIL WE PASS THE POLICY SO I GOT THE POLICY DRAFT AS FAST AS I COULD ASKED BY THE JUDGE SO WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN OPEN COURT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD IN THE POLICY IF EVERYBODY AGREES OR DOESN'T. JUMP RIGHT BACK INTO

IT. >> COME BACK TO THIS ONE DOES ANYONE CARE ? WE OPENED UP FOR DISCUSSION, THERE IS NO MOTION OR ANYTHING. CAN WE BRING ITEM NUMBER 12 NOW? DO YOU CARE , COMMISSIONER PUSLEY, COMMISSIONER MAREZ YOU ASKED FOR

IT. >> WE CURRENTLY HAVE MORATORIUM ON EVERYTHING UNTIL WE PASSED POLICY.

>> I DON'T REMEMBER US DOING THAT.

>> LAST COURT WE WANTED TO DISCUSS ALL TIRZ COMING UP WITH

STANDARD. >> I KNOW WE PASSED A DEAL TO DISCUSS HOW WE WOULD DO THIS I DON'T REMEMBER SAYING WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING AND THIS IS A ACTION ITEM IS IT NOT?

>> JUDGE, I AM GOOD WITH TALKING ABOUT THE POLICY IF IT'S READY OR SOMETHING WE FEEL WE CAN DISCUSS I AM GOOD WITH IT, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT 13 AND I GET WE CAN FIX 13 UNTIL WE ADDRESS

12. >> I THOUGHT WE WOULD WAIT AND DO ANYTHING WITH TIRZ UNTIL WE CAME BACK WITH POLICY. THAT'S

WHAT I THOUGHT THE MOTION WAS. >> OKAY.

[12. Discuss and consider all Tax Increment Reinvestment Zones and a county-wide Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ) policy for renewals and newly proposed TIRZ and all related matters.]

>> I WILL PULL UP ITEM 12. >> WE WON'T HAVE MOTION OR ANYTHING ON 13. WE WILL COME BACK AFTER WE DO 12. TOGETHER, THEY BOTH REFLECT EVERYTHING THE SAME.

>> DISCUSS AND CONSIDER TAX REINVESTMENT ZONES AND A COUNTYWIDE TAX INCREMENT REIMBURSEMENT ZONE TIRZ POLICY FOR A NEW AND NEWLY PROPOSED TIRZ AND RELATED MATTERS, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY I BELIEVE YOU SAID YOU WORKED ON THIS?

>> YOU ASKED ME TO PUT TOGETHER POINTS TO PUT FORTH FOR CONSIDERATION IN REGARDS TO TAX REINVESTMENT ZONE POLICY AND THAT'S WHAT I DID. IT IS PROVIDING THE BACKUP , POSTED IN MIND IT HAS 15 DIFFERENT SUGGESTIONS SO THIS WAS BASED ON THE GENERAL CONSENSUS AND THE COUNTY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THESE TIRZ AND THE COUNTY ENDS UP A LOT OF TIMES PAYING FOR THINGS THAT ARE NOT COUNTY RESPONSIBILITY. STREET REPAIR AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT CLEANING CITY STREETS THEY ARE NOT COUNTY RESPONSIBILITIES, BUT WE WANT TO BE A GOOD PARTNER AND PART OF ONE OF THE COMMENTS MR. HARRISON MADE AND I NEED TO GET

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WE DID EXACTLY WHAT WE DID ON THE ISLAND TIRZ. TO BE CONSISTENT SO IF YOU GO BACK TO CHANGE THIS ONE, I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND TAKE THE HEAT FOR NOT DOING IT ON MY PRECINCT, BUT THIS IS TRYING TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE COUNTY. THESE ARE THE PROPOSALS COME I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THEM.

AND IT KIND OF STEM FROM THE LONDON TIRZ NEXT, THE LONDON TIRZ PROPOSAL IS REALLY GO IN AT 45% SO EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHERE THE COUNTY IS HEADED,

45% . >> THAT IS DIFFERENT, DO WE WANT TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE THINGS? TO SEE IF WE ARE OKAY

WITH MOVING FORWARD? >> IF I COULD SAY ONE THING.

>> I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE , I UNDERSTOOD THE COMMENT, BUT THE COUNTY DOES RECEIVE BENEFIT OF THESE TIRZ WHEN THE PROPERTY VALUE INCREASES DOWNTOWN CORPUS CHRISTI AND EVERYWHERE ELSE WHERE WE HAVE DONE TAX REINVESTMENT ZONES, THE COUNTY DOES GET A BENEFIT OF THAT SO THAT WAS MY PURPOSE OF SUPPORTING THE DOWNTOWN TIRZ ORIGINALLY. TO SEE THE INVESTMENT IN AN AREA THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BRING ADDITIONAL

TAX REVENUE TO THIS COUNTY. >> IT ALL STAYS IN THE TIRZ DOES

NOT COME BACK TO NUECES COUNTY. >> THE PROPERTY VALUES DO WHEN

THEY GO UP WE GET A BENEFIT. >> CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG

>> THE COUNTY OVERSEE THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE FROM THE BASE BEFORE THE COMMITMENT ZONE WAS IMPLEMENTED. SO THE INCREASED VALUE IS REINVESTMENT, REINVESTED IN THE TIRZ UNTIL THE TIME IT DISSOLVES. AND THEN WE WILL GET IT AT THAT POINT.

>> THE MONEY STAYS IN THE TIRZ I'M TALKING ABOUT THE INCREASE VALUE OF PROPERTIES AND AD VALOREM TAXES. THAT BENEFITS THE

COUNTY. >> THE TAXES FOR THE BASE THE COUNTY WILL RECEIVE BUT ANYTHING FOR THE INCREMENT STAYS IN THE

TIRZ. >> WE GET ZERO THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS AT ALL STAYS IN THE TIRZ. THAT'S WHY WE CHANGE THE ISLAND BEFORE YOU WERE HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN IN IT 20

YEARS , WE WANTED A PARTNER. >> INCREASING AREA.

>> 100% TO THE TIRZ. WE WERE AT BASE RATE WHEN WE SIGN UP FOR THE TIRZ, THAT'S ALL WE GET IN TAX RETURN WHEN THE VALUE INCREASES THAT GOES TO THE TIRZ. ARLENE WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT? MAYBE YOU CAN CLARIFY. YOU ARE HERE.

>> SO THE BASE WAS ESTABLISHED FOR THE COUNTY IN 2010, ANYTHING ABOVE THE BASE AS THE STRUCTURE IS INTENDED GOES BACK TO THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE TIRZ AND THEN AT THE END OF THE PERIOD OF THE TIRZ THAT'S WHEN THE TAXING ENTITIES BASICALLY CASH IN ON

THE INVESTMENT. >> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I MEANT.

AT THE END OF THE TIRZ WE GET THE BENEFIT OF THE PROPERTY

VALUE INCREASING. >> IT HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT.

>> AT THE END, YES IF WE END THEN WE GET ALL OF IT BACK.

>> 89% INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUE FROM THE START OF THE TIRZ UNTIL NOW. ALMOST 100% DOUBLE THE VALUE.

>> 20 OR 40 YEARS WE WON'T BE HERE. I WANT TO RENEW THIS ONE AGAIN. I'M TRYING TO DO POLICY WE ARE GETTING OFF. AT THE END OF THE DAY UNLESS WE END THE TIRZ ORATORS PERCENTAGE THE COUNTY WON'T GET ANY MONEY NOW, WE WOULD ONLY GET MONEY AT THE

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>> ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A MESHING TO PASS THEM AS A WHOLE?

>> I WILL BUT I DON'T WANT TO CUT OFF DEBATE SO. MATTER OF

DISCUSSION? >> I WOULD LIKE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS SOME OF THESE. I THINK WE OUGHT TO GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT THEM AND THIS SHOULD NOT LIMIT OUR ABILITY ON THE NEXT ITEM 2 A RECOMMENDATION . WE CAN CHANGE ANYTHING ANYTIME WE WANT TO WITH RESPECT TO WHAT WE DO HERE. I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT ON AN INDIVIDUAL TIRZ IF WE WANT TO, FOR EXAMPLE THE LONDON TIRZ YOU HAVE GESTATED WE WILL START AT 45%. I DON'T SEE THAT ON HERE

ANYWAY. >> ON NUMBER 15 TO 10 PERCENTAGE POINTS LESS THAN THE CITY. THAT WOULD PUT US IN COMPLIANCE. YES.

>> THIS WOULD BE OVERALL POLICY WE WOULD THEN PUT FORTH TO SHOW ANYBODY WANTS TO DO A TIRZ OR RENEW THIS IS THE EXPECTATION OF WHAT THAT WOULD BE IN REGARDS TO THIS. WE EVER GOING TO RECEIVE RETURN ON INVESTMENT WE HAVE TO REDUCE PERCENTAGE TO THESE TIRZ SO WHAT WE WILL SEE IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE BECAUSE WE REDUCED OUR PARTICIPATION ON THE TIRZ 75%. SO THIS IS THE POLICY WE BASICALLY AND AGAIN THIS MIRRORS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ASKING THE CITY FOR THAT EVERYBODY HAS AGREED TO ON THE LONDON TIRZ.

NOW, THIS, AND IT HAS ADDITIONAL RENEWALS BECAUSE WE HAVE RENEWALS THAT WERE COMING UP AS WELL. SO, AGAIN I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEONE SECONDED. FOR DISCUSSION. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR IF ANYBODY DOES NOT LIKE ONE OF THESE?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER WE TABLED THIS UNTIL WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THESE IN FULL. I HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS AND HOW IT RELATES TO AN AREA IN MY PRECINCT. THE DOWNTOWN TIRZ IS IN MY PRECINCT AND I THINK I AT LEAST OUGHT TO HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS HOW THIS IS GOING TO

IMPACT THE AREA I REPRESENT. >> NO PROBLEM AS LONG AS YOU GIVE THE SAME COURTESY IN TABLING ITEM 13. SO WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER IN DOING THAT.

>> ARE YOU RESCINDING YOUR MOTION?

>> BRING THEM BOTH BACK AT THE SAME TIME.

>> WE HAD TWO CONVERSATIONS. >> I GET YOUR POINT, THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL. WHAT I DO NOT WANT IS US GETTING MIXED OR CAUGHT UP IN THIS DEBATE AND DISCUSSION ON THIS MESSAGE WE ARE SENDING. RIGHT? I HAVE CONCERN WHEN WE VOTED ON THIS.

ARLENE WAS HERE EARLIER TODAY OF PUBLIC COMMENTS IN GENERAL WITH GENERAL ISSUES ON DMD AND WE TOOK A VOTE THAT TOTALLY REVAMPED , SO YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD HAVE DONE SOME OUTREACH IN THE DIRECTION WE WERE GOING. I REACHED OUT PERSONALLY AND I WANTED TO FIND OUT MORE SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE BEEN DOING.

I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. I THINK WE ALL IN GENERAL AGREE THAT WE CANNOT SUSTAIN THIS PERCENTAGE ANYMORE AND WE NEED TO SEE SOME OF THE TAX RATE COME BACK TO US. WITH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS IN VALUES, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US DISPUTE THAT BUT I DON'T WANT IS FOR OUR MESSAGE TO COME BACK TO THE COMMUNITY TO THE WORLD WE ARE WATCHING AND POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS IN THE PIPELINE AS WE SPEAK THAT THERE IS SOME , THERE IS WAVERING

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TALKING ABOUT REGIONAL IMPLICATIONS, I SEE THAT IN MY PRECINCT , WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS CATCHING ON AND IT IS SETTING THE EXAMPLE IN OUR COUNTY ALONE AND RECEIVED IN MULTIPLE COUNTIES AROUND US. I GET WHAT EVERYONE IS SAYING FOR CONCERNS TRYING TO BENEFIT FROM WHAT WE HAVE INVESTED OVER THE YEARS TYPICALLY AFTER 20 YEARS WE ARE DONE, BUT I CHALLENGE YOU, EVERY MONTH GO DOWN FIRST FRIDAY ON ART WALK AND TRY TO NAVIGATE STREETS SAFELY, YOU CANNOT. THAT IS THE UNSAFE PART AND THE OTHER ISSUE PART YOU WALK YOU'RE GETTING SOME EXERCISE DOING THAT, BUT I RECOGNIZE THE CONCERN IS WE CANNOT SUSTAIN THIS. I HEAR YOU AND I AGREE. THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE NOW BECAUSE IT'S NOT AT THE PREVIOUS LEVEL BUT LET'S NOT MAKE IT A GREAT REDUCTION, I THINK LONDON IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, IT'S A LITTLE MORE UNIQUE AND THAT'S THE STANDARD WE ARE SETTING THERE , BUT THE IMPLICATIONS NOW FOR EXISTING BUSINESS I DON'T WANT TO HAMPER AT ALL. LAST FIRST FRIDAY" WITH THIS LAST STATE LAST FRIDAY THERE WAS A CONVENTION AT THE HOLIDAY INN DOWNTOWN SO I SAID I'VE GOT TO GO FOR AT LEAST ONE HOUR. MY WIFE TO DROP ME OFF SHE WENT TO THE SUSHI BAR AND SAID MEET ME WHEN YOU GET DONE. IT TOOK A WHILE, BUT I WALKED SEVERAL BLOCKS AND I COULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS 10 YEARS AGO OR 20 YEARS AGO BUT HERE I AM WALKING BLOCKS FEELING COMFORTABLE SEEING ALL OF THIS WITH PEOPLE UP AND DOWN THE SIDEWALKS THAT'S WHAT THE DMV AND FROM LOCAL BUSINESS NOT TALKING CHAIN BUSINESSES NECESSARILY, LOCAL INVESTORS.

YOU HAVE MY FULL SUPPORT ON THIS, IT MIGHT BE A CHANGE ARLENE FOR YOU AND YOUR BOARD, BUT I HOPE IT WILL BE A REASONABLE CHANGE TO WHERE IT IS SOMETHING WE CAN SUSTAIN

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>> I AM GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION TO TABLE THESE ITEM NUMBER 12 AND 13, TO THE 24TH , TO 24 SEPTEMBER BECAUSE OUR NEXT MEETING ON THE 10TH IS BUDGET AND THIS IS GOING TO TAKE A LONG

TIME SO I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION. >> BEFORE YOU DO CAN I ASK, I'M OKAY WITH BOTH OF THEM BUT BEFORE WE DO, COULD WE MAKE A MOTION TO START NEGOTIATIONS TO SHOW THAT WE ARE WANTING TO RENEW THE DOWNTOWN TIRZ? AND WORK ON THE BUSINESS POINTS LATER? BECAUSE WE WANT TO SEND THE MESSAGE WE WANT TO CONTINUE WITH IT. WE CAN WORK ON THE BUSINESS POINTS LATER.

>> WE HAVE TO HAVE THE POLICY BEFORE WE WORK ON NEGOTIATIONS.

>> LET ME RESPOND TO THAT I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID, COMMISSIONER MAREZ, GREAT COMMENTS. ONE OF THE THINGS I AGREE WITH AND I HOPE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS IN THE LAST THREE LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS DONE EVERYTHING IT CAN TO FORCE MUNICIPALITIES AND CITIES TO CUT HOW THEY SPEND TAX MONEY. THAT HAS IMPACTED THE COUNTY ACROSS THE STATE TREMENDOUSLY. THE ONLY REVENUE WE RECEIVED TO FUND OUR BUSINESS IS FROM AD VALOREM TAXES AND WE ARE NOW STRAPPED HARD TRYING TO DO THE THINGS WE DID NEED TO DO, FOR EXAMPLE GIVE OUR EMPLOYEE DISSING -- DECENT PAY RAISES BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING CUTS WE HAVE HAD TO GO THROUGH. SO, COMMISSIONER MAREZ IS CORRECT WHEN HE SAYS WE CAN NO LONGER SUSTAIN THE AMOUNT WE HAVE BEEN PARTICIPATING IN THE TAX REINVESTMENT ZONES AND I'M NOT CONVINCED YET THAT WE NEED TO EVEN DO MORE THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATION THAT ALLOWED US TO CREATE THESE TAX REINVESTMENT ZONES SAY THAT IT WAS DESIGNED FOR AREAS THAT WERE LIGHTED. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE AND AT THAT TIME THE DOWNTOWN AREA CERTAINLY FITS THAT DESCRIPTION. AS DID PARTS OF NORTH BEACH. SO I HAD NO PROBLEM SUPPORTING THOSE, BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO REALIZE, AS WE GO FORWARD THE COUNTY HAS TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING WE PARTICIPATE IN, NOT ONLY TAX REINVESTMENT ZONES, BUT MANY OTHER THINGS WE DO AND HAVE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST, WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO IT THE FULLTILT WE HAVE BEEN DOING BECAUSE YOU KNOW 61% OF OUR BUDGET GOES TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE IN THIS COUNTY AND EVERYBODY WANTS THEIR DAY IN COURT AND EVERYBODY WANTS CRIMINALS PROSECUTED WHEN THEY DO CRIMES AND IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY TO DO THAT. SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO SAY ON A GO FORWARD BASIS I SUPPORT WHAT WE ARE DOING, I SUPPORT THE FACT THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TAX REINVESTMENT ZONES AND WE WILL HAVE TO DO IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WE DID IN THE PAST.

>> YOU MADE A MOTION TABLE TO SECOND AND I WILL YIELD.

>> WHO SECONDED MY MOTION? >> JOHN DID.

>> OKAY JOHN, WE MADE MOTION TO TABLE AND IT IS CLEAR THE INTENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE

[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]

>> I LIKE TO PULL ITEM HI. >> ANY OTHERS? WE WILL MAKE A

MOTION TO PASS, GO AHEAD. >> CONGRATULATIONS , CONSTANCE.

>> OKAY WE DON'T HAVE TO PULL IT, WE CAN SAY CONGRATULATIONS.

>> LET'S PULL IT, NO. ITEM J , I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS THE CONSENT AGENDA EXCLUDING ITEMS J AND I.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND ALL THOSE

IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> OKAY ITEM HI IS UP FIRST

[I. Approve Personnel Actions of a Budgeted Nature for July 1, 2025 through July 31, 2025. 1. New Hires (Appointments) Report 2. Position Changes Report 3. Workers on Leave Report 4. Employee Separations Report]

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>> YES I WAS GOING THROUGH THE LOOKING AT THE WORKERS OWN LEAVE REPORT AND, DO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE FOLKS THAT ARE ON LEAVE EXAMINED BY OUR OWN PHYSICIANS?

>> WE USED TO DO THAT A LONG TIME AGO, WE HAD A CONTRACT.

>> SOMEBODY? >> ONE OF THE POSITIONS COME

BACK TO WORK. >> I AM NOT AWARE. WE PROBABLY

NEED TO CHECK INTO IT. >> WE HAD A CONTRACT WHERE THEY WOULD BE EXAMINED BY OUR PHYSICIAN BECAUSE MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE COULD BE PUT ON LIMITED WORK RESPONSIBILITIES AT A DESK

SOMEWHERE. >> WE DO HAVE THAT TO THE WORKER COMPENSATION THAT IS THROUGH RISK MANAGEMENT , THERE ARE CERTAIN DOCTORS AND THEY GIVE REPORTS AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF THING. TIM IS NOT HERE, HE WOULD BE MORE EXPLICIT THAN ME.

>> UNDERSTAND BUT THIS WAS COMPLETELY SEPARATE, WE HAD A SECOND OPINION BECAUSE SOMETIMES YEAH.

>> THAT SOMEBODY NEED TO BRING BACK , LET'S DISCUSS THAT AND SEE. I KNOW RISK MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN A LOT WITH PEOPLE AND DEPARTMENTS AND ADVISING THEM ALONG WITH HR WITH SOME OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AS WELL, BUT HAVING ANOTHER PHYSICIAN WHO COULD SIGN OFF ON THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.

>> WE TRY TO GET THE LIGHT WORK WHEN WE CAN BUT SOMETIMES THERE IS NOT, WE HAD SOMEONE FROM THE JUVENILE IN MY OFFICE THAT I HAD SIX WEEKS BECAUSE HE COULD NOT DO THE JOB THERE. IN THE WORK RAN OUT THEY HAD TO MAKE THE DECISION DOES IT GO BACK TO WORK AND HE IS STILL NOW ON WORKERS COMPENSATION AND I BELIEVE HE IS ONE OF THE ONES TERMINATED BUT HE IS SO COVERED BY WORKMEN'S COMP. FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.

>> THAT IS A GOOD POINT TO BRING UP FOR ANYBODY LISTENING. JUST BECAUSE YOUR DEPARTMENT DOES NOT HAVE SOMETHING FOR SOMEONE ON MY DUTY WE CAN HAVE THEM WORKING IN ANOTHER DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTY UTILIZING THEIR SERVICES. SO THAT WAS A GREAT POINT TO BRING

UP. >> THAT IS A EXCELLENT IDEA I HEAR STORIES YOU CAN GO TO YOUR DOCTOR, SOME DOCTORS AND THEY WILL TAKE YOU AT YOUR WORD IF YOU SO YOU DON'T FEEL WELL. IF YOU SEE MY BACK IS HURTING THEY HAVE TO TRUST YOU SO LET'S GIVE YOU SIX WEEKS UNTIL YOUR BACK FEELS BETTER AND THEN MY BACK FEELS BETTER I LIKE THAT ENFORCING THAT IF WE HAVE IT ON

THE BOOKS. >> SO YOU WANT TO MAKE THE

MOTION TO PASS THIS? >> I WILL MAKE MOTION WE PASS

ITEM HI. >> A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER

[J. Approve application procedure for the following boards: 1. Nueces County Airport Advisory Board 2. Nueces County Animal Services Board 3. Nueces County Emergency Service District No. 3 4. Nueces County Hospital District Board of Managers 5. Corpus Christi Regional Transportation Authority Board of Directors Recommend opening for applications from August 20, 2025 to September 16, 2025]

TABLE THE POSTING UNTIL THEN. >> A QUICK , ARE THERE GOING TO

BE EXPIRED TERMS? >> EVERYTHING STAYS WHERE THEY

ARE. >> THAT WILL EXPIRE BY THE TIME

WE BRING THEM BACK? >> I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL

ALL EXPIRE BY THEN. >> IT IS ALL HOLDOVER. AND WE HAD PEOPLE HOLDOVER FOR A LONG TIME. I THINK WE WERE FOCUSED ON BUDGET AND OTHER THINGS. WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO REPLACE THESE THINGS SO IF WE CAN, THANK YOU. WE WILL MOVE THAT TO THE LAST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[1. Receive presentation regarding the Flood Mitigation Grant with the Nueces River Authority ;discuss and consider approving and adopting Interlocal Agreement with the Nueces River Authority for the Flood Mitigation Grant and all related matters. ]

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>> I WOULD SAY BEFORE WE HEAR THIS, I MET WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY BEFORE HAND, THEY DID NOT HAVE TIME TO GO OVER THIS TO LOOK AND HAVE SOME RED LINES THEY WANT TO CHANGE SO THERE WILL NOT BE ACTION TODAY. WE JUST NEED TO HEAR ABOUT IT,

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. CHIEF OPERATIONS OFFICER FOR THE NUECES RIVER AUTHORITY AND MORE IMPORTANT TO THIS PROJECT AND THE SPONSOR FOR THE REGION 13 FLOODPLAIN GROUP COME THE STATE FLOOD PLANNING GROUP UNDER WHICH NUECES COUNTY FALLS UNDER. BRINGING YOU A PROJECT THAT WE IDENTIFIED AND APPLIED FOR STATE FUNDS FOR THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD FOR A FLOOD MAPPING SYSTEM EARLY WARNING SYSTEM HIGH HAZARD DAM ASSESSMENT AND LOW WATER CROSSING SYSTEM AND NATURE-BASED SOLUTION PROGRAM FOR THE NUECES REGIONAL 13 IF YOU CAN SEE THE MAP IT SHOWS YOU 31 COUNTIES WE ARE PARTIAL OR FALLS INSIDE OF THE FLOOD BASIN. ONE OF THE THINGS WE IDENTIFIED IN THE FLOOD PLAN IS THE LACK OF INFORMATION MOST COUNTIES HAVE ON THEIR FLOOD MAPPING, MOST HAVE OUTDATED FEMA MAPS WITH A LOT OF AREAS ESPECIALLY THE MORE RURAL AREAS THEY DO NOT HAVE REAL MAPPING AT ALL. SO YOU HAVE APPLIED FOR FUNDS TO THE FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE DID RECEIVE THE FUNDING THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO UPDATE THESE, ROUGHLY A $30 MILLION GRANT THAT THE RIVER AUTHORITY APPLIED FOR, OUR FUNDING WAS 75% GRANT 25% LOCAL MATCH REQUIRED. NOW WE'RE GOING TO THE PROCESS AND GOING TO THE DIFFERENT COUNTIES TO SEE IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE FOR THE LOCAL MATCH TO GET THEIR

COUNTY MAPPED. >> HOW MANY HAVE YOU GOTTEN

PARTICIPATION FROM? >> 14 OR 15 ROUGHLY GOING TO THE SAME PROCESS COME OF HAVE APPROVED, ATTORNEYS ARE GOING BACK WITH A LOCAL AGREEMENT BUT IT IS 14 OR 15 THAT HAVE ADOPTED IT OR ARE IN THE FINAL STAGES OF ADOPTING, WE HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO GET TO EVERYBODY YET. SO WHAT WE WOULD DO, AND I HAD A MEETING WITH A JUDGE AND WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON THIS PROJECT TO MAKE SURE IT IDENTIFIED ISSUES THAT HE ALSO BELIEVED AT THE COUNTY SO I WANTED TO GET HIS SIGNOFF BEFORE WE BROUGHT IT TO

THE COURT. >> AND HE DID AGREE. FOR THE

COURT'S INFORMATION. >> REQUIRED MATCH?

>> THAT'S THE PORTION HE IS GETTING TO, ALL THE COUNTIES IF

YOU WANT TO JUMP IN ON THAT. >> YES, THROUGH THIS, THROUGH YOUR PORTION OF THE MATCH $30 MILLION GRANT WOULD BE $478,000.

THROUGH THIS PROCESS WE DID RECEIVE A 10 YEAR ZERO INTEREST LOAN FOR THE MATCH, THE LOCAL MATCH SO YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PUT ALL THE FUNDING UP FRONT, A TENURE PAYMENT OF $47,000 TO COVER YOUR SHARE SO YOU DON'T PAY UPFRONT IT WOULD BE PAID TO THE NUECES RIVER AUTHORITY WHICH WOULD THEN TAKE OUT THE LOAN PORTION THROUGH THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND PAY THE LOCAL MATCH BACK. MOST IMPORTANTLY WE WOULD MAP DOWN TO SIX INCHES THE ENTIRE COUNTY INCLUDING ALL CITIES AND COLONIALS WITH 38 IN THE AREA TO GIVE IT A MORE ACCURATE FLOOD DATA MAPPING AND WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE WATERSHED, THE OTHER COUNTY THAT WATER FLOWS INTO NUECES COUNTY WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE UPDATED MAPS, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE ISSUES WITH THE WAY FEMA DOES THEIR MAPPING WHEN THEY DID IN THE PAST THE RAINFALL IS OVER 24 HOUR PERIODS AND RAIN EVENT DOES NOT HAPPEN OVER 24 HOUR PERIODS IT'S OVER TWO OR THREE HOURS HEAVY RAIN STORMS LIKE WHAT YOU SEE IN KERR COUNTY WITH THE RAIN EVENT OVER 24 HOURS WITH THE FEMA FLOOD MAPS OKAY THAT WAS TWO OR THREE HOURS BUT IT DOUBLES OR TRIPLES OR YOUR FLOODPLAINS ARE SO WE WILL LOOK AT ALL OF THAT. THE COUNTY HAS LOW WATER CROSSING WE WOULD WANT TO INSPECT WE WOULD LOOK AT THE FIVE HIGH HAZARD DAMS AND THOSE ARE DAMS HOLDING BACKWATERS THROUGH CREEKS OR DIFFERENT WATERSHED ABOVE POPULATED AREAS WE WANT TO INSPECT THEM TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO ISSUES WITH THEM FEELING THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE OF ALL OF THIS WITH BE WE WOULD DEVELOP BEING FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROJECTS TO THE STATE

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>> IF YOU WANT TO GO ON WHAT'S THE TOTAL COST FOR NUECES

COUNTY? >> 478,000 IS YOUR TOTAL COST.

>> 47,000 PER YEAR? >> THAT IS CORRECT, ZERO INTEREST LOAN FOR THAT MATCH . THERE'S NO INTEREST PAYMENTS AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE FULL 480,000 UPFRONT.

>> WE WOULD GET IT BACK AT SOME POINT?

>> WAS BEING ABLE TO GO TO THE PROBLEM WITH THE TRICOUNTY STUDY WE DID IN TWO LARGER PROJECTS THIS WOULD BE BROKEN DOWN INTO SMALLER PROJECTS TO GO AFTER GRANTS TO KNOW WE CAN TAKE CARE OF A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS IN THE AREA.

>> THAT STUDY ONLY DID IT MAYBE LESS THAN 20% THAT WAS ACTUALLY MAP WE REDO THE ENTIRE EVERY INCH OF THE COUNTY TO BE MAPPED AND FLOOD MODELED AND IDENTIFIED PROJECTS WE NEED TO ADDRESS AND PUT THOSE IN THE STATE FLOOD PLAN SO YOU WOULD BE OF THE GUTTER FUNDING TO FIX THOSE ISSUES. THINK OF THIS AS PREEMPTIVE, LOOKING AT STORAGE FLOWS AND RAIN AND STORM SURGES FROM HURRICANE EVENTS, TOTAL FLOODING AND GET YOU PREPARED SO YOU CAN HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF GROWTH IN THE COUNTY THEY WILL BE UPDATING THE MAPS, YOU CAN IDENTIFY THE MAPS AS YOUR NEW FLOOD MAPS FOR THE COUNTY SO YOU CAN PUT THOSE IN ACTION FOR ANY SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE OR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS TO USE THOSE MAPS, ALL THE MAPS WOULD BE TURNED INTO FEMA FOR THEM TO ADOPT THROUGH THE FEMA PROCESS BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT, YOU CAN ADOPT THEM AS SOON AS WE PRESENT THEM IN THE NEXT 18 TO

24 MONTHS. >> SO AND WE DON'T HAVE IT ALREADY? YOU DESCRIBED 20% OF THE COUNTY BEING COVERED UNDER THE TRICOUNTY STUDY WE DID A FEW YEARS BACK SO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND THE ENTIRE REGION ?

>> YES, THE TRICOUNTY STUDY DID NOT DO MAPPING, IT IDENTIFIED PROJECTS WITH FLOOD PROJECTS BUT THEY DID NOT MAP THE AREA THEY DID SO YOU WERE NOT GIVEN THE NEW FLOOD MAPPING FOR THAT PART OF THE REGION. THROUGH THIS PROCESS YOU WOULD GET THE ENTIRE

COUNTY MAPPED. >> I GUESS SO WE ARE INCLUDED IN THE FIFTH AND THEN YOU GO , YOU APPLY AND THEN SEE?

>> WE HAVE BEEN INVITED. WE ARE ACTUALLY SCHEDULED TO START SPRING OF 26, WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS ASKING FOR THE LOCAL MATCH SHARE FOR THE COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE TO COVER THE COST SO IT'S ALL SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE 31 COUNTIES WE ARE IN AND THE PRICE IS DIFFERENT SO EACH COUNTY IS BASED ON THE SIZE SO SOME ARE PAYING 300,000, SOME 600,000 IT IS BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE COUNTY NOT EQUALLY SHARED. DIVIDED OUT BY 31.

>> CORPUS CHRISTI SINCE THEY ARE A BIG CHUNK OF NUECES COUNTY?

>> CORPUS CHRISTI WILL GET THE BENEFIT OF THESE NEW MAPS, WE'RE LOOKING FROM A COUNTYWIDE LEVEL WITH MOST OF THE WATER FLOWING FROM THE COUNTY TO THE CITIES THAT'S THE REALITY OF THE FACT

WE WANT TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. >> THEY ARE NOT COMING FROM NO COUNTY THAT IS COMING FROM THE CITY.

>> THAT'S A GREAT POINT. IT IS A REALLY GREAT POINT .

>> LOOK, I LIKE THE REGIONAL CONCEPT I'M NOT DISPUTING THAT, THE FACT YOU HAVE BEEN INVITED AND YOU ARE ASKING US TO JOIN IS A BIG DEAL AND I DON'T WANT TO DOWNPLAY THAT, JUST TO GET

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INCORPORATED. >> ACTUALLY THE COST IS DOWN, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN HIGHER BECAUSE WE'RE USING THINGS LIKE THE TRICOUNTY STUDY, THERE WERE FEMA STUDIES THAT WERE DONE. WE ARE NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL WE WILL TAKE INFORMATION USED IN THE COST IS LOWERED BECAUSE WE'RE USING OTHER PEOPLES INFORMATION SO WE'RE NOT THROWING IT OUT THE WINDOW AND STARTING OVER WE ARE USING THAT UPDATING AND GIVING YOU A BETTER MAPPING MODEL AND YES WE DID APPLY , THERE WERE 202 APPLICATIONS WITH FIVE DIFFERENT PIECES TO THE GRANT WE WERE RATED NUMBER ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR AND FIVE BECAUSE WE WERE THE ONLY ENTITY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS TRYING TO DO THIS REGIONALLY AND BECAUSE WATER FLOWS ACROSS COUNTY LINES AND CITY LINES WE DID THE PROCESS WE ARE NOT THROWING OUT THE STUDY BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION. WE WANT TO IMPROVE ON IT AND I THINK THE DOLLAR VALUE ARE GETTING IT WAS A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THIS PROJECT AND I THINK YOU WILL GET A MUCH BETTER BALL OR VALUE OVERALL BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING IT BIGGER AND THE STATE GAVE US SO MUCH FREE MONEY.

>> WE CAN GET TO THE MONEY FASTER AND GET THE PROJECTS TURNED AROUND FASTER IF WE GO WITH YOU? THE TRICOUNTY STUDY HAS BEEN ON HOLD FOR A WHILE. THE WORK WAS DONE AND THEN LEFT.

WE HAVE NOT DONE MUCH MOVING FORWARD, WE HAVE OTHER ENTITIES ON THE RURAL AND WESTERN SIDE OF THE COUNTY WE ARE RELYING ON TO PARTNER AND ATTACK THIS TOGETHER BUT IT IS DIFFICULT TO WORK WITH THE DIFFERENT ENTITIES BECAUSE THEY MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES SO MY CONCERN IS CAN YOU HELP US TO BRIDGE THE GAP AND GET TO THESE PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW EXIST? SO WE TURNED THEM AROUND AND GET THEM ADDRESSED BECAUSE AS MUCH AS I HATE THE DROUGHT AT LEAST WE KNOW WE DON'T HAVE COMMUNITY IS GETTING FLOODED. WHAT'S THE EXTREME? WHEN WE GET TO IT WE WILL HAVE THE PHONES RINGING OFF THE HOOK WITH HIGH WATER RESCUES, ALL THESE THINGS WE NEED TO GET DONE SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST SOME PROGRESS MADE IN THE SNOW WATER SO WHERE WHEN WE GET TO THE OTHER EXTREME WE CAN SHOW WE ARE DOING SOME WORK OR SOME OF

THE PROJECTS ARE COMPLETE. >> WE HAVE BEEN FUNDED AND PREPARED TO KICK OFF SPRING OF 26 LASTING TWO YEARS SO WE WOULD BE DONE WITHIN TWO YEARS AND SPEAKING WITH COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ AT A FLOOD MEETING, THE TRICOUNTY STUDY WAS A GREAT STARTING FRAMEWORK BUT THEY WERE NOT FEASIBLE PROJECTS SO THERE WAS A PROJECT $38 MILLION FOR THE AREA AND THE STATE, THEY ARE NOT FUNDED PROJECTS BIGGER THAN 10 OR 15 MILLION STATEWIDE SO THAT WAS NOT A FEASIBLE PROJECT. WE BREAK IT INTO TWO, THREE, 5 MILLION CHUNKS SO YOU CAN SLOWLY FIX THE ISSUES OVER TIME VERSUS TRYING TO BRING $38 MILLION FOR ONE AREA WHICH IS NOT REALISTIC.

WE HAVE TO THINK IN THOSE TERMS AND WE WANT TO BREAK THE

PROJECTS DOWN INTO THAT. >> I GET IT, YOU ARE THE POLITICAL SPONSOR FOR THE FLOOD REGIONAL FLOOD GROUP . YOU ARE THE ONES THAT ARE BEST TO HELP THAT, THAT'S ONE THING I HEAR FROM TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD IS THE REGIONAL APPROACH NOT THE SMALL MUNICIPALITY CITY OR COUNTY, THEY WANT A BIGGER GRASP AND THIS DOES INCLUDE THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT, THE FLOW THAT COMES WEST NORTHWEST INTO THE COUNTY, I WILL SAY ROBSTOWN AND THOSE AREAS, THAT IS A BIG DEAL AND IT IS GOING TO COME TO THE POINT OF LEAST RESISTANCE AND KEEP FLOODING. MY ONLY CONCERN IS THIS IS GREAT IT IS REGIONAL, I THINK WE WERE HAVING A HARD ENOUGH TIME AS A COUNTY TRYING TO PICK WHICH PROJECTS WOULD BE PRIORITY IN THE COUNTY, NOW WE COMPETE AGAINST OTHER CITIES OR COUNTIES IN THIS MASSIVE MAP YOU SHOW THAT YOU OVERSEE. I DON'T WANT TO GET LOST, AS BIG AS WE ARE COMPARED TO EVERYONE ELSE WE ARE PROBABLY THE BIGGEST BUT WE HAVE TO COMPETE AGAINST OTHER BIG PROJECTS SO SUPPORTING THIS NEXT I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS, YOU CANNOT GIVE GUARANTEES BUT WHAT CAN YOU TELL US SO WE KNOW WE WILL BE IN THE MONEY AND BE ABLE

TO SHOW RESULTS? >> I CANNOT GIVE GUARANTEES, OUR JOB IN THE PROCESS IS TO GIVE YOU CONFIDENCE WE WERE RING NUMBER ONE, TWO, THREE NUMBER FOUR AND FIVE AND WE KNOW HOW TO WRITE THE GRANTS AND FLOOD PROJECTS TO MAXIMIZE CHANCE OF GETTING FUNDED AND WE WANT TO GO TO THE PROCESS AND YOU WON'T

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STATE FLOOD PLAN. >> WHEN IS THE FIRST PAYMENT

DUE? >> IT WOULD BE JANUARY 2026.

>> JANUARY 26 . >> HOW ARE THE PAYMENTS MADE?

>> MAKE THEM IN 10 YEARS, 47,000 PER YEAR WITHOUT INTEREST.

>> CAN I ASK A FEW QUESTIONS? BRINGING UP SOME EXCELLENT POINTS SO TELL ME JUST FOR HISTORICAL PURPOSES, ABOUT 2007 OR 2008 NUECES COUNTY RECEIVED A $1 MILLION GRANT PROVIDED BY THE FORMER CONGRESSMAN ORTIZ TO DO A COMPLETE MATCHING OF NUECES COUNTY AND NAISMITH ENGINEERS WAS THE CONTRACTOR SELECTED TO DO THE STUDY AND THEY BASICALLY MAPPED ALL OF NUECES COUNTY SO THAT WE COULD UTILIZE THOSE , WHEN FEMA CAME OUT WITH THEIR MAPS AND WE DID, IN CERTAIN AREAS USE THOSE TO ARGUE WITH FEMA THAT MAYBE THERE WAS NOT AS DETAILED AND WE HAVE THE DATA IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. SO, THAT DATA IS THERE. TELL ME HOW YOUR MAPPING SYSTEM IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT OR HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THIS MAPPING SURVEY ?

>> WE DO HAVE THE DATA AND WE WILL BE USING THAT TO BUILD ON THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAVE, 18 YEARS OF TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE THE MAPS BETTER AND THROUGH THE PROCESS THE COUNTY HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY IN 18 YEARS WITH NEW GROWTH.

>> I REALIZED THAT, I THINK ANYTIME YOU HAVE THAT MUCH DISTANCE IT IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT HOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED, I AGREE, BUT TELL ME SPECIFICALLY, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THIS MAPPING?

>> FOR TRANSPARENCY I'M NOT AN ENGINEER SO I CANNOT GIVE YOU THE FULL SYSTEM, BUT THE SYSTEM YOU USE TO DO THE MAPPING, YOU GET DOWN TO THE SIX INCH CONTOUR OF THE BASIN.

>> SO THEY ARE USING LIDAR ? >> THAT WILL BE PART OF THE PROCESS. THERE ARE OTHER TECHNOLOGIES, BUT LIDAR IS PART

OF THE PROCESS. >> TRAVIS YOU HAD HIM AT LIDAR.

HE LOVES THE WORD.

>> WHAT IS THIS TECHNOLOGY ? I'M JOKING I'M SORRY.

>> THAT'S OKAY. OKAY IN THE LIDAR BASICALLY THEY USE THE AIRPLANE TO FLY OVER THE AREA AND DO RECONNAISSANCE. DRONES OR WHATEVER. BUT, OKAY. AND I THINK IT IS GOOD TO GO BACK AND LOOK, BUT I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER WHEN WE GO TO APPLY FOR THE GRANTS BECAUSE IN FACT I HAVE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA TODAY FOR MY PRECINCT WILL PAY AN ENGINEERING FIRM TO GO DO A DETAILED SURVEY OF AN AREA WE HAVE HAD FLOODING PROBLEMS WITH AND HAVE ANOTHER ONE I WILL PUT ON THE AGENDA IN A COUPLE WEEKS TO DO THE SAME THING WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THE DATA TO GO ALONG WITH THAT, BUT IN APPLYING FOR THE GRANTS, EVEN WITH ALL OF THAT I KNOW WHAT THE STATE IS GOING TO DO, THEY WILL, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE WILL FALL IN THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HAD ANYBODY DIE AS A

RESULT OF FLOODING ISSUES. >> FATALITY IS ONE OF THE SCORING METRICS WHEN YOU DO APPLY FOR FUNDING, BUT SO THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS YOU WILL GET THE BENEFIT OF. YOU KNOW OF COURSE THE POPULATION AND ALL THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, ONE OF THE BIGGER CHECKPOINTS WHEN YOU TURN THE PROJECT IS HOW MUCH DATA AND HOW REALISTIC HAVE YOU VETTED THIS HOW THE WATER FLOWS, NO OTHER COUNTY NOT INSIDE OF THE REGION, THERE 250 IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, JUST 31 HAVE THE FLOW OF HOW THE WATER FLOWS, WHAT HAPPENS IN EDWARDS COUNTY AFFECTS NUECES

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PROMISE YOU AT THIS STAGE. >> JUDGE, GO AHEAD.

>> AGE BEFORE BEAUTY. >> GO DOWN THE LINE.

>> YOU KNOW WHEN I LOOK AT 47,000 PER YEAR FOR 10 YEARS , HERE WE ARE PAYING MORE MONEY. WHAT CONFUSES ME AND I AM PUZZLED ABOUT THIS.

SYSTEM, THERE WAS A HUGE GRANT, WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT? THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A COMPLETE MAPPING OF SURROUNDING COUNTIES AROUND NUECES COUNTY WITH JIM WELLS, CLEBURNE, SAN PATRICIO AND NUECES COUNTY WHERE THE WATER FLOW COMES IN TWO NUECES, JIM WELLS MOSTLY AND STARTING OUT GOING DOWN SO WE HAVE, DO WE NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE WE START SPENDING MORE MONEY AND YOU KNOW COMMISSIONER I THINK WHEN YOU MENTION HIRING SOMEBODY TO DO A MAP , WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE AND I THINK THE ONE INVOLVED , THEY DID EXCELLENT MAPPING FOR THE WATERWAYS , ON THE TRI-COUNTY AND WHEN YOU START USING THAT AND SOMETHING ELSE AND PAY MORE MONEY, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. SO I JUST NEED , WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND SAY PULL OUT THE TRI-COUNTY AREA PROJECT AND SEE WHERE WE ARE AT AND WHERE WE STOP WHAT DO WE COME UP WITH, WHAT ARE THE RESULTS? I WAS NOT VERY HAPPY WITH IT TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, BUT WHAT ARE THE RESULTS AND WHERE WE GOING TO FIND THE REPORT ON THIS , BUT I JUST FEEL , MY PERSONAL OPINION I DON'T WANT TO SPEND ANYMORE MONEY FOR TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS. AND I TALK ABOUT A LOT OF THESE. AND I THINK THAT NOT ONLY THE ENGINEERS , ALL THE PEOPLE INVOLVED, LOOKING AT THE WORKERS INVOLVED TO A CERTAIN POINT SO, THE MAPS CHANGE , THERE ARE DRONES THE ENGINEERS HAVE DRONES THEY CAN GO BACK AND REDO WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE AND PUBLIC WORKS CAN REALLY GO BACK AND HAVE BIGGER

MAPS AND I THINK GOING BACK. >> WHY DON'T WE ASK? WOULD YOU

GO TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE? >> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. HOW ARE YOU DOING? YES I KNOW WE MET ON THIS PROJECT, IT IS A GOOD PROJECT FOR THE COST OF THE MAPPING AND ALSO UPDATING SOME OF THE FEMA MAPS IN THE PROCESS BECAUSE IN THESE AREAS WE DO HAVE AREAS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE FEMA MAPS THAT ARE UPDATED SO THE COST IN COMPARISON TO REMODELING THE WHOLE COUNTY , I THINK IT IS A GREAT PROJECT.

>> HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE? >> BASED ON THE MEETING ! IT TAKES APPROXIMATELY 18 OR A YEAR TO TWO YEARS TO GET THE DATA.

AND THEN ALSO ONE THING , THE MODELING I KNOW WE ARE DOING A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS FOR RETENTION FACILITIES SO THOSE

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>> DO WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO SUPPORT THE DATA WHEN WE RECEIVE IT? I KNOW WE HAVE ARC GIS, BUT DO WE HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO USE

THIS? >> YES SIR ONE THING MOST OF THE MODEL IS DONE ON THE SOFTWARE YOU CAN LOOK AT AND I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE SOFTWARE SO THAT SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT

WHEN THE DATA IS GIVEN TO US. >> IF I MAY SPEAK TO THAT.

>> ONE QUESTION, AT ONE POINT WE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AND WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY IS REMODELING. AT ONE POINT WE DO THOSE MAPS AND SAY THIS IS WHERE THE WATER FLOW COMES FROM AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE TO RENEW THE WATER LINES, THE RETENTION PONDS WERE NOT THERE YET, THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. BUT I THINK AT THAT POINT, I UNDERSTAND TO TAKE THE LEAD ON THAT WE ARE PRETTY MUCH UP-TO-DATE ON WHAT WAS GOING ON OUT THERE AND WHAT THEY WERE DOING IN THE TRI-COUNTY AREA. MAPPING IT.

>> YES SIR. THERE IS DATA OUT THERE. WHEN THE STUDY IT WAS DONE, IT WAS DONE PROBABLY FOUR YEARS AGO. I KNOW A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN DONE SINCE AND COMMISSIONER THERE ARE AREAS AS PART OF THE MODEL THAT WERE NOT MODELED AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE NORTHWEST AREA DOWN 624 , THAT AREA WAS NOT PART OF THE MODELING DONE AS THE OTHER ONE. THIS WON'T INCLUDE

THAT PART. >> COMMISSIONER MAREZ HAS A

QUESTION. >> ONE MORE FOLLOW-UP AND I'M FINISHED. SO THE CHALLENGE WITH THE TRI-COUNTY STUDY WAS WORKING WITH MULTIPLE GROUPS , AS I MENTIONED EARLIER SO, ANY GROUPS YOU MENTIONED OR ANY OTHER LOCAL GROUPS IN THE COUNTY THAT YOU ARE INCLUDING OR THAT WE NEED TO INCLUDE? BECAUSE THE NUECES COUNTY DRAINAGE DISTRICT NUMBER TWO IS A BIG CHUNK IN THE CENTER PART SO IF THEY ARE NOT PART OF THIS THAT'S GOING TO BE A

STRUGGLE TO OVERCOME. >> YES, THIS WILL BE A AUTHORITY AND COUNTY PROJECT WE WILL BE THE TWO LEADS, THE COUNTY AND US, BUT DRAINAGE DISTRICT NUMBER TWO WE MEET WITH THEM ALL THE TIME, I KNOW THE STAFF, KNOW THE CITY OF ROBSTOWN AND WE WANT TO HAVE THEM INCLUDED THROUGH THE PROCESS, OBVIOUSLY. ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES WITH THE TRI-COUNTY STUDY, IT IS THAT WE, SO YOU DO NOT GET A FULL MAPPING, THEY DEVELOPED PROJECTS, I BELIEVE 14, BUT THEY WERE ALL $20 MILLION PROJECTS AND SO THE NUMBER TWO WANTED TO APPLY FOR GRANTS AND THEY COULD APPLY FOR THE GRANT BECAUSE THE PROJECT COME ALL THE INFORMATION I HAD WAS FOR $20 MILLION PROJECT THEY DENY THE FUNDING OR THE BONDING OR THE ABILITY TO APPLY FOR THE FUNDS WHICH IS ONE THING WE WANT TO FIX THROUGH THE PROJECT SO WE CAN MAKE THESE INTO BITE -SIZED CHUNKS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE USING THE INFORMATION, WE WANT TO IMPROVE ON IT AND FOR FULL DISCLOSURE WE WERE NOT PART OF THE TRI-COUNTY STUDY, I WAS HEART OF IT AS PUBLIC INPUT AND CITIZEN THAT CAME TO THE MEETINGS, BUT WE DO NOT RUN THE PROJECT SO MAKING SURE THAT IS CLEAR TO EVERYONE.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THEY ARE ANOTHER POLITICAL ENTITY THAT IS A ELECTED BODY SO THEY MAY HAVE OPINIONS ON THAT, AS MUCH AS I LIKE THE CONCEPT TO TAKE ON A COUNTYWIDE ISSUE AND I AGREE THAT'S OUR CHARGE, THEY ARE A SIGNIFICANT PART OF IT, SO THE PERCEPTION MAY BE NOT WELL RECEIVED AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM BUT I AM SAYING I KNOW PROJECTS IN THE PAST PUT ON HOLD BECAUSE IF THEY ARE NOT BOUGHT IN IT STOPS THE PROCESS.

>> WE WORK WITH THE ENGINEER VICTOR ALL THE TIME SO HE IS

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>> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY YOU WANTED TO SPEAK.

>> I WILL ECHO A LITTLE BIT WHAT EVERYBODY SAID, I AGREE WE SPENT A TON OF MONEY ON THIS ALREADY AND A TON OF TIME AND I DON'T REMOVE THE PROJECTS ALL BEING 20 MILLION OR MORE BUT IF THEY WERE A RATHER LOOK AT D SCOPING SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE WORKED ON AND REDUCING SCOPE OF THOSE BEFORE WE COMMIT TO SPENDING 478,000 MORE. I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU PAY OUT OVER IT IS STILL 478,000. I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE GRANTS ON THIS TO SEE. WE HAVE BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT, NOT A POLICY BUT CONSISTENT ON SAYING WE ARE NOT GOING AFTER CASH MASTER GRANTS, WE HAVE NOT APPROVED ANY CASH MATCH GRANT IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, NOT POLICY, WE CAN DO WHAT WE WANT BUT IT IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TELL PEOPLE WHO ARE ASKING FOR GRANTS WITH MATCHES BECAUSE WE GET IN A BIND ON THAT SO IF WE HAD NOT ALREADY DONE SO MUCH , WHAT DID WE SPEND ON THE STUDY? IT WAS A LOT OF MONEY.

>> $3 MILLION? >> THE WHEN YOU DID, THE ONE WE

DID. IT HAS BEEN A LOT. >> 1 MILLION ON THE FIRST AND THEN TRI-COUNTY SEEMED LIKE 3 MILLION.

>> WE SPENT A LOT SO IT'S HARD FOR ME TO GET REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS EVEN THOUGH I KNOW IT'S A BIG DEAL. I WOULD RATHER FOCUS ON THE ONES WE HAVE TARGETED THAT WE ALL SPEND ENORMOUS TIME ON TARGETING WHAT WAS NEEDED IN THE PRECINCT.

THERE ARE PROJECTS IN YOUR PRECINCT, TOO THAT WERE TARGETED, LOOK AT THOSE AND SCOPE THEM A LITTLE BIT AND GET THEM DOWN TO WHERE THEY ARE MORE REALISTIC AND PRICEWISE IF THAT IS THE CASE AND HAVE GRANTS, MAKE A PRESENTATION ON HOW WE DO THAT AND I DON'T KNOW, I AM STRUGGLING WITH THIS ONE, I

AGREE. >> IN CLOSING I WANT TO SAY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT COLONIALS , IT'S VERY BROAD WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TARGETING COLONIALS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS. EVERY TIME WE IMPROVE , IN THE LAST THREE YEARS I WOULD THINK IT IS NOT CHANGE THAT MUCH OR IN FIVE YEARS. YOU KNOW, NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED VERY MUCH SO DRAINAGES. SO KNOW WE WE ARE AT. LETTING PEOPLE GET THE WRONG PERCEPTION.

WE ARE NOT DOING SOMETHING IN THE COLONIALS.

>> I DON'T THINK WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH THE COLONIALS. WE WORK WITH YOUR TEAM, WE ARE DOING A GRANT WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE , THEY ASKED US THREE YEARS AGO TO UPDATE ALL IN THE NUECES BASIN AND WE HAVE BEEN GOING TO THE PROCESS, UPDATING ALL OF THEIR INFORMATION. ONE OF THE THINGS WE FOUND WHEN UPDATING THEIR MAPS, THERE WAS NOT ACCURATE FLOOD MAPS FOR THE MAJORITY INCLUDING THAT IN THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD GRANT HERE AND WE WOULD PUT THAT INFORMATION INTO THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURAL STUDY WE ARE DOING FOR THEM BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE FUNDS COME FROM TO FIX THESE AND THOSE ARE 100% GRANTS THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR THOSE PROJECTS SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE

THEY FIT IN THE GUIDELINES. >> WHOSE MAP, WHAT MAP?

>> DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE. >> SO THE TRI-COUNTY WERE NOT

PASSED ON? >> THE TRI-COUNTY WERE NOT PASSED ON? TO SAY HERE IS AN UPDATE?

>> NOT THAT I KNOW OF. >> THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

>> THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE IDENTIFIED TO THE PROCESS, THERE WERE SEVERAL INDEPENDENT STUDIES THAT ARE FLOATING OUT, THIS PROCESS BRINGS EVERYTHING INTO ONE NUECES MAPPING PROJECT. WE ARE GOING TO REUSE THAT INFORMATION THAT'S WHY THE PRICE WAS CHEAPER, WE WANT TO GET THE COMMISSIONERS AND ONE ONE PLAYBOOK OF ALL THE FLOODING IN THE COUNTY THAT YOU CAN GO

AFTER HOW YOU SEE FIT. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE FOR THE PRESENTATION, LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS, I

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>> I WANT TO STRESS I HAVE QUESTIONS AND RESERVATIONS, BUT BEING PART OF THAT LIST IS A BIG DEAL BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITIES FIGHTING TO GET ON THE LIST SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AND YOU CAN CONFIRM THAT IN OUR NATURAL ALLIES ARE ON BOARD .

>> THE QUESTION I HAVE RELATED TO THAT IS IF THE COUNTY PAYS FOR THIS AND YOU SAID THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI WILL BENEFIT BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE DATA LIKE WE WILL THEY COULD APPLY FOR A GRANT AND BECAUSE THEIR PROJECT MAY IMPACT A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAN OUR PROJECT THEY COULD GET PREFERENTIAL CONSIDERATION OVER US AND WE PAID FOR IT.

>> LET'S HAVE OUR OWN MEETINGS AND BRING IT BACK, BUT KEEP IN MIND WHATEVER PROJECTS GET DONE, DRAINAGE IS AN ISSUE, FLOODING IS AN ISSUE THAT IMPACTS ALL OF US AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER AND EVEN PEOPLE AND NUECES COUNTY RESIDENTS, AS WELL. WE WILL GET BACK TO YOU I'M SURE YOU WILL BE HEARING FROM COMMISSIONERS REACHING OUT AND I'M SURE YOU WILL BE HEARING FROM THEM.

[3. Discuss and consider approving execution of annual service agreements with American Integrated Solutions for security alarm monitoring, fire alarm monitoring, and inspection services for Coastal Bend State Veterans Cemetery for FY 25/26 in the total amount of $1,350, and related matters.]

>> ABSOLUTELY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.

>> MOVING ON TO NUMBER THREE. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING EXECUTION OF ANNUAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THE AMERICAN INTEGRATED SOLUTIONS FOR SECURITY ALARM MONITORING , FIRE ALARM MONITORING AND INSPECTION SERVICES FOR THE COASTAL BEND STATE VETERANS CEMETERY FOR FISCAL YEAR 25-26 TOTAL AMOUNT OF $1350 TO BE PAID FOR OUT OF COASTAL BEND STATE CEMETERY FUND, FUNDED BY THE STATE, MOTION TO PASS. MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, AND HE OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES AND YOU MAY NOTE THAT

[4. Discuss and consider issuing a burn ban prohibiting all outdoor burning, including beach bonfires, for all unincorporated areas of the county, and related matters. ]

[5. Discuss and consider authorization and approval of Airport Courtesy Vehicle program and the Courtesy Car User Agreement and Courtesy Vehicle User Information Form documents; and related matters.]

AT THE AIRPORT. >> IF I COULD.

>> SECOND. >> FOR DISCUSSION YES, NOW

COMMISSIONER PUSLEY. >> ONE OF OUR BOARD MEETINGS FOR THE AIRPORT AND COMMISSIONER MAREZ WAS IN ATTENDANCE, WE DISCOVERED WE HAD A COURTESY VEHICLE. NOT SURE THAT WE KNEW THAT AND SO WHEN I GOT BACK I BROUGHT THE INFORMATION TO OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY AND SAID HAS ANYBODY LOOKED AT THIS TO SEE IF WE ARE COVERED FOR LIABILITY ISSUES, SO THEY QUICKLY AND GRACIOUSLY REVIEWED THE DOCUMENTS BEFORE YOU TODAY TO APPROVE AND WE DID A LITTLE MASSAGING TO IT, NOT MUCH, BUT I WANTED TO SAY, AND MICHAEL IS HERE IN THE BACK, I KNOW SOME AIRPORTS THAT I HAVE VISITED, THE CAR RENTAL COMPANY OR THE, WHAT'S THE NAME? ENTERPRISE, THERE YOU GO. ENTERPRISE MAKES

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AIRPORT. >> CERTAINLY WE CAN GO BACK TO ENTERPRISE AND TALK TO STACY OUR REPRESENTATIVE TO SEE WHAT OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE COURT TO CONSIDER.

>> ANYWAY THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES WITH COMMISSIONER MAREZ

[6. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving Work Authorization No. 2 under the Master Services Agreement with Hanson Professional Services, Inc. for engineering services related to the First Colony Subdivision Drainage Assessment; and related matters.]

ITEM. >> YES MA'AM, TO GO AND BASICALLY DO A STUDY , THERE IS SOME MONEY THAT HAS BEEN SET ASIDE TO PUT IN A RETENTION POND, IF YOU WILL, BEFORE WE SPEND THAT MONEY WANT TO MAKE SURE NUMBER ONE WE ARE PUTTING IT IN THE RIGHT PLACE SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A DETAILED SURVEY IN THE AREA. THIS IMPACTS A FAIRLY LARGE SUBDIVISION IN THE NORTHWEST AREA OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS SO ANYWAY, WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS. OUT OF OUR CO MONEY SO APPROVE THIS.

>> USING CO MONEY. >> YES.

>> MOTION AND SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR

[7. Discuss and consider approving Change Order No. 3 to the agreement with Callan Marine. Ltd. for construction of the Bob Hall Pier Rebuild project, to add additional charges and work; and related matters.]

COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. >> SCOTT DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN

THIS ONE? THE CHANGE ORDER? >> WHICH ONE?

>> WHOEVER WANTS TO DO IT. WE HAVE ALL REVIEWED.

>> I WILL SECOND YOUR MOTION. >> IT IS WITHIN BUDGET AND SO

FORTH SO THE MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> INCREASE? >> WITHIN THE BUDGET, A CHANGE ORDER WITHIN THE BUDGET IN CONTINGENCY.

>> ANYTHING YOU NEED TO ADD? >> THE ONLY COMMENT IS THE CHANGE ORDER IS WITHIN THE BUDGET FOR ADDITIONAL WORK.

>> QUESTIONS FROM ANY MEMBERS? >> I KNOW COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HAS BEEN MONITORING THIS WITH SCOTT. SO MANY SCOTS.

>> THAT'S WHY I GO BY LAST NAME.

>> WE KNOW SCOTT IS TAKING CARE OF IT. THROW IN MARK SCOTT.

THAT'S MY CONCERN. I ALWAYS SUPPORT ANY PROJECT WE HAVE ON PAUL PIER, WE NEED TO REBUILD AND I KNOW AND TRUST YOU WILL BE WATCHING CHANGE ORDERS MAKING SURE WE STAY WITHIN BUDGET, I KNOW YOU ARE DOING IT JUST A REMINDER TO OURSELVES AND THE PUBLIC THIS COULD BALLOON OUT OF CONTROL AND WE KNOW IT'S NOT

BECAUSE YOU'RE KEEPING AN EYE. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL

[8. Discuss and consider Un-allocating $1,500,000 ARPA funds approved 3/8/2023 and 3/20/2024 from the Bob Hall Pier Concessionaire/Restaurant Building project and reallocate those funds to the Bob Hall Pier Reconstruction Project. Un-allocate $1,500,000 Bob Hall Pier Hurricane Harvey funds and Re-allocate to Bob Hall Pier Concessionaire/Restaurant Building project and all related matters.]

MOVING ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ON ALLOCATING 1,500,000 ARPA FUNDS APPROVED 3/23 AND 3/2024 FROM THE BALL PAUL PIER CONCESSION RESTAURANT BUILDING PROJECT AND RELOCATE TO THE BALL PAUL PIER RECONSTRUCTION AND THIS IS JUST SWAP OF FUND SOURCES, NOT REALLY ANY BIG CHANGE OTHER THAN

SWAPPING WITHIN THE PROJECT. >> CORRECT, FOR TWO REASONS.

ONE, ARPA FUNDING ON THE RESTAURANT THAT IS BEHIND THE PIER CONSTRUCTION WE COULD RUN UP ON THE DEADLINE BY DATE CERTAIN IT IS GOING TO COINCIDE WITH THE NEXT MOTION WE MAKE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO, WE CANNOT USE THE JOCK ON ARPA FUNDS BUT WE CAN ON THE REGULAR FUNDS SO IT GOES ALONG WITH ALL THESE ON

[02:15:01]

HERE. >> MAKING MOTION TO APPROVE? I WILL SECOND YOUR MOTION. OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR

[9. Discuss and consider allocating $200,000 from Precinct 4 CO’s to the Bob Hall Pier Restaurant Project to cover any shortfalls, costs or contingencies needed from the result of the deductive change order giving back the responsibility to the county to build the space.]

THAT IN CASE. >> I WILL SECOND THE MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE

[10. Discuss and consider approving method of procurement utilizing JOC (Job Order Contracting) for Bob Hall Pier Third-Party Concession Building Reconstruction; and all related matters.]

[11. Discuss and consider approving method of procurement IFB (Invitation for Bids) for Bob Hall Pier Third-Party Concession Building Reconstruction and authorize the Purchasing Agent to publish a notice; and all related matters.]

MATTERS. >> MIND IF WE DO 10 AND 11

TOGETHER? >> DISCUSS AND CONSIDER METHOD OF PROCUREMENT, INVITATION OF BIDS FOR THE THIRD-PARTY

CONCESSION. >> THE INTENT OF NUMBER 11 IS A BACKUP IN CASE NUMBER 10 DOES NOT SUCCEED, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CONTRACTORS FOR SEVERAL WEEKS TRYING TO GET NUMBERS BUT WE DO NOT HAVE GUARANTEES THAT THEY WILL COME BACK WITH NUMBERS THAT WORK OR AT ALL SO I'M ASKING THAT NUMBER 10 B THE PRIMARY MOTION AND NUMBER 11 BE APPROVED IN CASE THE NUMBERS WHICH WE THINK WE WILL GET NEXT WEEK DO NOT HAPPEN SO IT IS A BACKUP MOTION BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GET IT

PASSED. >> MICHAEL ROBINSON YOU AGREE

WITH THIS MOTION? >> YES WE AGREE THIS IS APPROPRIATE METHOD, PROVIDING A QUICK REMEDY TO GET THE PROJECT GOING IN THE EVENT THE VENDOR IS NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE ACCEPTABLE HAVING THE BACKUP TO GO THROUGH MY NORMAL PROCESS USING IFB

WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. >> MOTION TO PASS 10 AS PRIMARY

AND 11 AS BACKUP. >> ALTERNATE IN CASE 10 DOES NOT

WORK OUT. >> I WILL SECOND WITH ONE QUICK QUESTION. DJ OC WAS NOT THE LIST , YOU HAVE A LIST OF

CONTRACTORS? >> THE COUNTY PUT OUT RFP TO GET PROVIDERS AND CONTRACTORS AND THOSE ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY COMMISSIONERS TO USE ON ANY PROJECTS AND WE UTILIZE THEM EXTENSIVELY FOR 1.5 MILLION IN THE FIRST YEAR.

>> THAT'S WHAT THE JOB ORDER CONTRACTING IS.

>> THE OLD BUY BOARD JUST RENAMED IT AND DOING IT A

DIFFERENT WAY. >> THE BUY BOARD WOULD BE A PARTICULAR CO-OP, THIS IS A CO-OP THE COUNTY AUTHORED SO IT'S CLOSE TO US TO HELP US DRIVE BUSINESS LOCALLY.

>> WE HAVE EMOTION AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN

[14. Discuss and consider establishing the Early Voting Polling Locations for the November 4, 2025, Constitutional Amendment Special Election; authorize the County Clerk to add additional locations if needed.]

>> EARLY VOTING LOCATIONS. IS THERE A QUESTION?

>> GOING TO AMEND WHAT WAS GIVEN.

>> I DID NOT LOOK WHAT YOU GAVE ME. THIS IS THE NEW ONE? SUBSTITUTE THE NEW ONE TAKING OUT TWO IN MY PRECINCT, BECAUSE I HAVE TWO TOO MANY THIS IS ONLY FOR CONSTITUTIONAL.

>> DID YOU PASS FOR EVERYBODY? I DON'T SEE IT. I HAVE NOT SEEN

IT EITHER. HERE IT IS. >> I THINK IT ONLY AFFECTS MY

PRECINCT . >> I HAVE EVERYBODY'S RIGHT HERE? IT GOT STOPPED WITH ME SO SORRY

>> TAKES OUT ATKINS AND LONDON. >> GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT I DID

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>> I GOT A CALL ON THAT SO THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTOOD IT AND IT IS NOT SETTING PRECEDENT. WE KNOW LOW VOTER TURNOUT SINGLE

DIGITS 5%. >> EXACTLY, THE SAME NUMBER FROM

2023. >> WHEN WE LOOK WE DON'T REALLY HAVE MARCH PRIMARY, BUT THE GENERAL FOR NEXT YEAR , WE CONSOLIDATED A VOTING BOX . OR WE SPLIT ONE I'M SORRY.

>> TALKING ABOUT THIS IS LOCATION.

>> THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE COMPOSITION?

>> YOU CAN GO ANYWHERE. >> I KNOW THAT, REPRESENTATION WHAT DOES THIS MEAN REPRESENTATION BY PARTY? WE'RE PRETTY GOOD ABOUT NOT GETTING INTO THE ISSUE.

>> TAKES TWO OUT OF MINE, TAKING TWO OUT OF REPUBLICAN.

>> THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE THAT GOT MAILED OUT.

>> BASICALLY THAT ANSWERED WHAT WAS GOING TO ASK. SPLIT THERE

WERE TOO MANY IN MIND. >> MOTION AND SECOND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I WILL STILL ADVOCATE . I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS MANY TIMES , WE DO HAVE A VOTING LOCATION IN FAR NORTHWEST

NUECES COUNTY AND WE HAVE. >> THAT IS ELECTION DAY AND THEY

ARE ALWAYS THERE. >> NOT FOR ANYTHING ELSE.

>> IT WILL BE CONSOLIDATION AND THEY DID NOT ASK TO BE EARLY

VOTING. >> LONDON DID NOT WANT TO BE SO THAT WAS EASY FOR ME. I DON'T KNOW. SPLIT WHAT DO YOU MEAN

THEY? >> THE ESD'S.

>> THEY ARE A FIRE STATION. >> THEY ARE CONCERN FOR THIS

THEY ACTUALLY ARE CONCERN. >> I'M JUST TELLING YOU WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE AREAS AND THEY HAVE TO GO TO HILLTOP TO VOTE.

>> TO GO TO ROBSTOWN. >> OR ROBSTOWN. IT IS A HIKE.

>> THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN. >> SHE HAS A AUTHORITY TO ADD WE ARE GIVING HER AUTHORITY SHE CAN REACPOTENTIALLY GET SOMETHING THE FAR NORTHWEST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO COME SO

FAR WHEN THERE IS AN OPTION. >> ELECTION DAY WE HAVE THOSE SITES COVERED SO BACK WHEN I REPRESENTED , THAT WAS A QUESTION I GOT AS WE STARTED GETTING AWAY WE HAD TO CONSOLIDATE AND BE MORE RESOURCEFUL. IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO COME UP SO LET'S NOTE YOU SHARED CONCERNS ABOUT YOUR PART OF THE PRECINCT AND THE RESPONSE WAS NOT THAT GOOD AND WE HAVE TO BECAUSE OF RESOURCES AND I KNOW THIS QUESTION WILL COME UP AGAIN. IN THE ELECTION I BELIEVE IT AT THAT.

>> 8/20/25 AT 11:30 A.M. >> THE QUESTION WILL COME UP.

>> MOTION AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THE MOTION

[15. Discuss and consider approval of Election Day Vote Centers for the November 4, 2025, Constitutional Amendment Special Election; authorize the County Clerk to add additional locations if needed.]

VOTE ANY PLACE ANY TIME. >> YOU HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE

CHAIRS OF BOTH PARTIES. >> I NOTIFIED THEM ON A WORK IN PROGRESS WHICH GOT TURNED INTO SOMETHING THEY THOUGHT WE WERE VOTING ON TODAY. IT WAS SUGGESTIONS AND INPUT.

>> THE MESSAGES YOU ARE REACHING OUT.

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>> WE SHARE INFORMATION TO BOTH PARTIES AND THAT IS VERY CLEAR.

ONE OF THE PARTY CHAIRS IS HERE AND I HOPE YOU CAN ATTEST TO THAT WE SEND EVERYTHING TO BOTH PARTIES.

>> KAREN'S JOB IS TO REACH OUT TO BOTH PARTIES AND BOTH PARTIES

AGREE. >> WE ALWAYS WORK WITH BOTH PARTIES VERY WELL. AGAIN A LOT OF COUNTIES, HERE IN NUECES YOU KNOW THEY GET ALONG, EVERYONE WORKS WELL TOGETHER IN MY OFFICE AND IN COMMISSIONERS COURT TO PUT VOTERS FIRST AND MAKE IT EASY AND CONVENIENT TO VOTE TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY.

>> MOTION TO PASS. MOTION AND SECOND.

>> THE CENTER ON THE WEST SIDE NOT ON HERE?

>> ESD 4. >> WHERE?

>> NUMBER 35. >> NUECES COUNTY ESD 4.

>> WE HAVE EMOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY

[16. Discuss and consider approval of appointment of election judges and approval of apportionment of election judges for voting centers per Commissioner Precinct pursuant to Section 32.002 of the Texas Election Code.]

>> THAT IS HER OFFICE. >> WE HAVE BEEN DOING AND WE REACHED OUT TO BOTH PARTY CHAIRS AND THEY GIVE US A LIST OF JUDGES AND THE APPORTIONMENT COMES FROM THE ELECTION, WHEN WE HAVE THE ELECTION, WHO IS THE JUDGE .

>> THE APPORTIONMENT OF WHICH PARTY IS GOING TO BE AT WHICH LOCATION PRESIDING AND SET BY THE COURT SO IT HAS NOT GONE AS FAR AS FEEDBACK FROM EITHER PARTY. THAT IS NOT GONE TO EITHER PARTY FOR THE APPORTIONMENT, BUT WE DID GET ELECTION JUDGES FROM BOTH PARTIES.

>> THIS DOES NOT DESIGNATE WHO IS THE LEAD AND ASSIST IN JUST

TO THE JUDGES ARE? >> PREAPPROVED JUDGES AND WHICH

PARTY WILL BE IN WHICH LOCATION. >> THIS DOES NOT SAY WHO LEADS AND WHO DOESN'T THESE ARE JUST THE JUDGES.

>> THIS IS WE NEED TWO MOTIONS TO PROVE THE APPORTIONMENT, BY

PRECINCT? >> THE PARTY AT EACH LOCATION.

>> YOU SAID WE DON'T HAVE THAT. >> WE DO, THAT HAS NOT BEEN SENT

OUT. >> IT HAS GONE OUT TO THE PARTY

CHAIRS. >> SO WE NEED TO WAIT?

>> YOU CAN IF YOU WANT TO. IT HAD GONE TO THE PARTY CHAIRS

LAST ELECTION. >> LET'S APPROVE IT SUBJECT TO

THE PARTY CHAIR. >> YES, I AGREE.

>> WE ALWAYS SEND IT OUT BECAUSE WE WANT THE BYE IN AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE AGREES WE ARE DOING IT RIGHT SO AS A STANDARD WE SHOULD REACH OUT TO THEM BEFORE WE VOTE SO APPROVE

CONTINGENT. >> APPROVE THE ONE PART OF THE SECOND PART APPROVE APPOINTMENT OF ELECTION JUDGES FIRST MOTION.

>> I WILL SECOND, ONE AT A TIME. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

>> NOT ON THAT ONE. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

THE MOTION PASSES. >> MOTION TO APPROVE APPORTIONMENT FOR VOTING CENTERS PER PERMISSION PRECINCT SUBJECT TO REVIEW BY THE PARTY CHAIRS TO MAKE SURE IT IS RIGHT, NOT QUESTION YOU JUST SAYING SO THEY CAN LOOK BECAUSE IT'S ALL BY

THE LAW. >> IF IT'S GETTING BACK TO BOTH PARTIES TO REVIEW SORRY. I MEANT TO SECOND. THAT WAS MY ISSUE, IF THEY ARE GIVEN A CHANCE THEN LET'S DO IT.

>> THEY ALWAYS DO. >> WE HAVE EMOTION AND SECOND,

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>> IN THE FUTURE SEND THEM OUT IN ADVANCE SO THEY CAN SEE IT BECAUSE WE WANT EVERYBODY ON BOARD

>> SCRAMBLING AROUND AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING THE

[17. Discuss and consider approving application process to nominate up to two (2) qualified candidates to be listed on the ballot for the two (2) positions to be filled on the Appraisal District Board of Directors for the term beginning January 1, 2026 (pursuant to Tax Code § 6.0301) and related matters.]

>> SECOND FOR DISCUSSION WITH QUESTIONS. DIDN'T WE DO THIS?

THIS IS COMING UP AGAIN? >> YES, THERE WILL BE FIVE APPOINTED POSITIONS, THE FIRST ROUND THEY DREW STRAWS AND TWO WERE FOR JUST ONE YEAR APPOINTMENTS SO THOSE ARE NOW UP

FOR REAPPOINTMENT. >> WHO ARE THOSE TWO?

>> TWO INSTEAD OF FIVE? WE HAD 700 LAST TIME.

>> BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL APPOINTED BEFORE.

>> FOR US TO KEEP OURS I GUESS IF SHE APPLIES AGAIN OKAY. I GOT IT. SHE APPLIES AND IF YOU WANT TO KEEP HER WE WANT TO ALLOCATE ALL OF THEM TO HER BECAUSE SHE WAS APPOINTED BY THE CITY?

>> I WOULD ASSUME SO. >> IF SHE APPLIES.

>> RIGHT, THE CITY GETS MORE VOTES. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I'M SORRY, CLARIFICATION.

THIS IS THE NEW HYBRID BECAUSE WE ARE POPULATION LARGER THAN 25,000 OR WHATEVER THE STATE SAID SO IT'S NOT TRADITIONAL APPOINTMENT LIKE WE USED TO HAVE, WE HAVE THREE MEMBERS ELECTED? AND THE REST ARE APPOINTED SO WE CAST OUR CHUNK

OF VOTES TO WHOEVER WE WANT? >> LIKE THE NEW COMEDIAN WHO DOES HIS SKITS ABOUT PEOPLE ASKING QUESTIONS AND HE SAYS NOBODY KNOWS. WHEN THEY ALSO HOW THE PROCESS WORKS NOBODY KNOWS.

I HAVE CALLED THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE INVOLVED AND THEY GO WE DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS, WE STRUGGLED WITH IT AT THE CITY BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AND I WILL OFFER THIS AND THE COURT CAN DISAGREE IF THEY WANT AND THAT'S FINE BUT WHOEVER ENDS UP BEING THE REPRESENTATIVE WE OUGHT TO SEND THEM A LETTER FROM YOU STATING AND THEY HAVE MAJOR DECISIONS ABOUT GIVING TAX EXEMPTIONS TO ANYBODY OR ANY ENTITY WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW

BEFORE THEY VOTE ON IT. >> THEY DON'T VOTE. YOUR POINT IS GREAT BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE SAME THING AND WHEN I CHECKED, THEY DON'T GIVE THE EXEMPTION, IT'S THE CHIEF APPRAISER.

>> THE CHIEF APPRAISER WORKS FOR THEM.

>> BUT IF THEY DO NOT HEAR ABOUT IT OR VOTE THAN THE CHIEF

APPRAISER GIVES IT. >> THERE IS SOME LAW ON THAT'S A LET'S BE CAREFUL. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN CLOSED SESSION BECAUSE THERE IS LAW ON WITH THE BOARD CAN AND CANNOT DO BUT YOUR POINT IS WELL MADE BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE SAME THING AND I CHECKED AND IS THE ONE LADY, I CAN REMEMBER. THE INTERIM UNTIL APPOINTED SHE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO GETS TO MAKE THE DECISION WHICH IS A BIT SCARY. NOT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT HER BUT THAT'S A BIG RESPONSIBILITY.

>> NOT ASKING TO BRING TO EXECUTIVE TODAY? DO WE HAVE

EMOTION AND SECOND? >> CAN WE HAVE THE SOONER RATHER

THAN LATER? >> WE NEED TIME.

>> NOT THE NEXT ONE BECAUSE OF BUDGET.

>> THAT'S A GREAT POINT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. WE HAVE TO BE

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CAREFUL HOW WE DO IT. >> MOTION AND SECOND, ALL THOSE

[18. Discuss and consider upcoming Commissioners Court meeting date(s), workshop date(s), and related matters.]

SOMETHING. WHY ISN'T THAT ON? >> I'M NOT SURE.

>> THERE IS ONE MISSING. >> IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

>> A PUBLIC HEARING SO SEPTEMBER 4 SHOULD BE ON THERE SO PLEASE MAKE THAT IN YOUR NOTES WITH THE NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING SEPTEMBER 10 WHEN WE WILL VOTE ON THE BUDGET. VERY IMPORTANT

DATES. >> ON THE FOURTH REGULAR MEETING

TIME? >> THE FOURTH , WE HAVE TO. IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING WE HAVE TO HAVE BEFORE THE 10TH , REQUIRED

BY LAW. ON A THURSDAY . >> THAT AGENDA ITEM IS COMING UP

SHORTLY. >> THANK YOU, PUT IT ON YOUR CALENDARS PLEASE.

-- THIS IS WHAT WE PUT THE ITEM ON FOR. IF WE'RE ADDING

SOMETHING. >> THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 4.

>> IT HAS BEEN ON THE BUDGET CALENDAR, THAT DATE, THE PUBLIC

HEARING FROM THE COURT. >> REALLY? I DON'T SEE IT HERE.

>> THIS ONE, THIS CALENDAR HAS CHANGED SEVERAL TIMES AND IT FAILED TO GET ON HERE BUT MY OFFICE HAS HAD IT SO I KNOW IT HAS BEEN ON THE CALENDAR, BUT WE ARE POINTING IT OUT NOW.

EVERYONE AVAILABLE THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 4 I KNOW:00 A.M. FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET ON THE TAX RATE?

>> HOW LONG? >> IT IS A SHORT MEETING.

>> IF IT'S SHORT I'M FINE. SEPTEMBER 4, THURSDAY.

>> I AM GOOD. >> IT IS NOT THE BUDGET. AT 9:00 YES. IT SHOULD BE A QUICK MEETING.

>> WHAT IS THE FINAL MEETING ON ADOPTING THE BUDGET ?

>> SEPTEMBER 10. >> I WILL BE HERE.

>> YES PLEASE. >> OKAY, MOVING ON SINCE WE

[1. Discuss and consider conditional selection of Wexford Health Sources, Inc. for Jail Medical Services (RFP 3315-25).]

SECTION ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> NOT TALKING ABOUT DOLLARS

TODAY. >> THEY WILL NEGOTIATE TERMS.

>> I HEARD IT WILL BE MORE AND I HAVE NOT SEEN EVERYTHING.

>> AT THIS POINT IT IS CONDITIONALLY SELECTED STARTING THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS AND WE COME BACK FOR AWARD AND EXECUTION OF THE CONTRACT AND YOU WILL GET THE DOLLARS.

>> I ASSUME THE SHERIFF SUPPORTS THIS?

>> YES. >> WE SAW ESTIMATE IN THE BUDGET

DURING OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP? >> THERE WAS AN ESTIMATE GIVEN BASED ON SOME PROPOSALS THAT WERE MADE. DIFFERENT, BIG JUMP FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT. TALKING ABOUT STRUGGLING WITH DOLLARS AND REINVESTMENT DOLLARS, THE MARKET IS WHAT IT IS I GET IT AND IF THAT'S ALL WE ATTRACT HEY, MOST MANAGEMENT COMPANIES ARE DIFFICULT BECAUSE THEY END UP FACING LAWSUITS AND SCRUTINY AND THERE IS NO PERFECT ONE OR SYSTEM BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE WORK THEY DO. I KNOW YOU WILL WORK HARD TO GET US THE BEST PRICE WE CAN BUT IF YOU HAD NOT SEEN THE NUMBER THAT'S PRETTY ALARMING TO SEE THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM ONE

YEAR. >> RIGHT, I WOULD CAUTION THE COURT TO NOT TALK ABOUT NUMBERS NOW. WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE

NEGOTIATION PROCESS. >> IT WAS PUT IN A PUBLIC

DOCUMENT. >> THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO

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THE BLANK. >> FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES.

>> WE ARE TALKING OUT LOUD, THANK YOU VERY MUCH EMOTION AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES

[2. Discuss and consider approving execution of Amendment No. 4 to the Agreement with Sec-Ops, Inc. for Nueces County Security Services, eliminating the Jail Entrance position; and related matters.]

DISCUSSION? >> YES, JUDGE, SHERIFF SORRY TO CALL YOU UP. SHOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU A HEADS UP FIRST.

SO, THIS IS AN EFFICIENCY AND HOW YOU ARE OPERATING AND YOU ARE ABLE TO HELP BRING SOME SAVINGS?

>> $100,000. >> THAT'S A BIG DEAL. SHOULD NOT IGNORE THAT, SHOULD CELEBRATE AND PRAISE.

>> ALTHOUGH WE ARE GIVING IT BACK TO HIM.

>> GET IT BACK INTO EMPLOYEES, THE WORK THEY CAN DO. SO MY THING IS WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT GOVERNMENT MAYBE NOT BEING THE MOST EFFICIENT AND IT IS A RUSH TO SEND IT TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THIS IS ONE OPPORTUNITY WHERE IT IS OPPOSITE SO WE NEED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT. DOES NOT ALWAYS WORK THAT WAY BUT IT IS A SWAP AND AT LEAST IT'S GOING TO YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT AND YOU ARE ABLE TO OVERSEE IT BETTER THAN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. THANK

YOU. >> WE HAVE EMOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, THE MOTION PASSES

[1. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving execution of Amendment No. 3 to RESTORE Act Subgrant Reimbursement Contract between Nueces County and Texas Commission on Environmental Quality (TCEQ) for a time extension, updating milestones and deliverables, increasing budget, and updating RESTORE Act Financial Assistance Standard Terms and Conditions and Program-Specific Terms and Conditions.]

PRETTY DETAILED. >> WE GOT ADDITIONAL $315,000 TO ADD TO THE CURRENT $7.5 MILLION GRANT BRINGING IT TO $7,815,000.

AND IT IS GOING TO BE DEDICATED TO BUILDING A REALLY LARGE AND BEAUTIFUL PUBLIC PAVILION SPACE AND SO, THAT IS WHERE THE MONEY WILL GO. SO THE GRAND KING RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

>> SORRY I SHOULD NOT HAVE GIVEN YOU THAT TITLE.

>> I'M JUST PLAYING. >> WE APPRECIATE THAT.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE . >> ANOTHER ONE IS COMING

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ SECONDED. >> THERE IS NO CASH MATCH? THIS

IS GREAT. >> ALREADY IN THE PLANS WHICH MICHAEL SHOP IS PUTTING TOGETHER TO GET OUT ON THE STREETS TO GET

GOING. >> GREAT JOB GOING AFTER THESE

GRANTS. >> ANOTHER ONE IS COMING IN THREE MONTHS FOR ANOTHER 1,050,000.

>> LET'S NOT SPOIL IT. MOTION AND SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES, THANK YOU. D 1 GRANTS

[1. Discuss and consider approving an Interlocal Agreement between Nueces County and the Community Supervision and Corrections Department for administration of particular services in relation to the Veterans Treatment Court.]

AGREEMENT WE RENEWED ANNUALLY? >> WE HAVE THE GRANT AWARDED AND WE NEED A PROBATION OFFICER. SO WE HAVE A PROVISION OFFICE TO HAVE THAT AND PART OF THE GRANT PAYS FOR HALF OF THEIR SALARY.

>> WE HAVE CONTINUED WITH THIS? >> THE FOURTH YEAR.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE OF EMOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE ANY OPPOSED? THE

[1. Discuss and consider for approval of a replat of Lots 17R and 18R of Wild Wood Ranch Estates, and related matters.]

AND RELATED MATTERS. >> SO MOVED.

>> COUNTY ATTORNEY HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THESE ARE WE GOOD? GO

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APPROVE THESE? >> I DO NOT HAVE NOTES THAT WE

HAVE EVALUATED . >> IS THE STANDARD?

>> WE DON'T REALLY REVIEW THEM. >> SOMEBODY PUT IN MY NOTES TO ASK IF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY LOOKED AT THESE AND IT MIGHT BE STANDARD THAT THEY WRITE ON ALL MY NOTES SORRY FOR BRINGING THAT UP. MOTION AND SECOND. YES. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> I DROPPED OFF THE ORIGINAL AT YOUR OFFICE YES MA'AM.

>> MAYBE THAT'S WHY THEY ASK. THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY,

[2. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving execution of Job Order Authorization No. 21, in the amount of $104,585.58, under the Job Order Contracting Agreement with Barcom Construction, Inc for repairs and waterproofing work for Nueces County Roof Repair Project; and related matters]

REPAIR PROJECT. >> JUDGE ON THIS, THIS IS TO DO SOME REPAIRS AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING COMING INTO THE JAIL. I KNOW WE HAVE WORK ORDERS AND I TALKED WITH SERGEANT TO MAKE SURE THIS, THAT WE ARE OKAY.

ALSO JUDGE THIS INCLUDES THE WALKWAY TUNNEL THAT COMES FROM THE JAIL, WE DID HALF OF IT AND THIS IS THE OTHER PART.

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS PART OF THE REGULAR ROOF PROJECT.

>> NO MA'AM. >> JUST THE BREEZEWAY ON THE

SITE. >> THAT'S CORRECT, ON THE PLAN AREAS ON TOP OF THE WALKWAY WHICH WE CALL THE TUNNEL WE ALREADY HAD DONE HALF OF IT AS SUCCESSFUL AND I KNOW THE LAST TIME WE HAD A RAIN EVENT WE DID NOT GET ANY WATER IN THERE. THIS IS BEFORE SEVEN YEARS BEFORE MY TIME AND WE DO GET 2 TO 4 INCHES OF WATER DURING A HEAVY RAIN EVENT. THIS IS THE SECOND PART AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

>> THE FUNDING IS GOOD? >> YES MA'AM THROUGH BUILDING.

JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS WITHIN MY FIRST YEAR I WAS HERE WE DID GET CALLS FROM A CONTRACTOR PRELIMINARY CALLS AND IT WAS GOING TO BE 200 SOMETHING THOUSAND AND BASED ON THE METHOD WE HAVE BEEN DOING WORKING WITH SERVICE DEPARTMENT AND TEAMING UP TOGETHER THE TOTAL COST IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE UNDER 100,000 SO IT'S ABOUT $150,000 WORTH OF SAVINGS DOING

IT THIS WAY. >> PRAISE HIM, TOO.

>> I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE I WANTED TO ASK YOU AND MICHAEL WHAT YOUR EXPERIENCE AND OVERALL THOUGHT WAS AND HOW THIS BENEFITED THE PROCESS THE JOB ORDER CONTACT. IT MIGHT NOT WORK ON EVERY PROJECT OR PROCESS BUT FOR THIS ONE IT IS.

>> YES OR NO TO THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT ON THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BECAUSE DURING THE RAIN EVENTS WE GET A LOT OF WATER GOING INTO THE AREA SO I

WANT TO THANK YOU ALL. >> I'VE GOT TO ASK A QUICK QUESTION. ON THE PAPER, THE SOURCE OF FUNDS SAYS GENERAL

FUND. >> NO MA'AM I APOLOGIZE. IT IS COMING OUT OF THE BUILDING. YES MA'AM.

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS. THIS PAPER SAYS GENERAL FUND.

>> ALONG THE LINES OF WHY J OC IS HELPFUL TO US BASED ON THE VALUE OF THE PROJECT I WOULD HAVE TO BID THIS OUT LOOKING AT 60 TO 90 DAYS FOR REGULAR PROCESS IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL.

INSTEAD UNDER THE JOC PROGRAM WE ARE COMING TO YOU ONE TIME AND WE CAN BE MORE RESPONSIVE TO PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

>> IT WORKED OUT REAL GOOD

>> I'M SORRY. ONE OTHER THING I WOULD TO THANK MICHAEL AND HIS STAFF OF THE PROCESS THE JOC BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN WORKING SO I WOULD TO THANK FOR THEIR SUPPORT.

>> YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE . ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[3. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving a renewal with Esri Inc. for ArcGIS Desktop Maintenance in the amount of $3,045.14 for Public Works, and all related matters.]

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>> YES MA'AM. >> UTILIZED AND NECESSARY. MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> JUDGE I FORGOT, WE TABLED NUMBER 12, BUT NUMBER 12 WAS EXTENDED SO WE COULD CONSIDER IN EXECUTIVE SESSION THE LONDON TIRZ. I DON'T WANT TO BRING THE POLICY PART BACK , BUT FOR RENEWALS AND NEWLY PROPOSED TIRZ , I FORGOT THAT WAS PART OF 12, NOT TRYING TO BRING POLICY BACK BUT TRYING TO BRING ITEM 12 OFF THE TABLE SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE LONDON TIRZ WHICH THE CITY SENT THE PROPOSAL FROM YESTERDAY'S MEETING. I WOULD ASK THE MOTION BRING BACK OFF THE TABLE MAKE MOTION TO BRING ITEM 12 OFF THE TABLE FOR LIMITED CONSIDERATION ONLY FOR THE LONDON TIRZ PORTION. I JUST

REALIZED I'M SORRY. >> UNDER THREE A 12. 551 POINT

551.07. >> BRINGING OFF THE TABLE?

>> WHAT IS THE LEGAL? >> AFTER BRING OFF THE TABLE 1ST THEN YOU CAN ASK. I JUST NEED TO MAKE MOTION TO BRING IT OFF THE

TABLE 1ST THEN WE CAN DISCUSS. >> MOTION AND SECOND TO BRING IT OFF THE TABLE, UNANIMOUS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THIS IS

ONLY THREE A 12. >> THREE A 12 LIMITED ONLY. NOW GO AHEAD. TO GO INTO LEGAL BUT ALSO TO GO TO EXECUTIVE THIS HAS THE BUSINESS DISCUSSION HAS TO BE 5.0 RIGHT?

>> THERE ARE DIFFERENT PARTS THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED. IF THE COURT INTENDS TO TAKE A BUSINESS DISCUSSION BACK THEN YES YOU WILL NEED THE 5-0 VOTE AND THE FORMS DISCUSSED. IF YOU ONLY INTEND TO DO LEGAL DISCUSSION THAN 551 IF YOU ONLY INTEND TO DO LEGAL DISCUSSION THAN 551.071.

>> BASED ON THE FACT WE ARE DOING THAT BEFORE IN THAT WAY I WOULD PROPOSE WE CONTINUE TO DO IT THAT WAY BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME CHANGES. THAT WE ASKED FOR.

>> 551.071 IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

>> I DON'T 12? I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT LONDON.

>> FOR RENEWALS AND NEWLY PROPOSED TIRZ AND ALL RELATED MATTERS. WE PUT IT ON IN CASE THE CITY SENT SOMETHING BACK FROM WHAT WE PROPOSED WHICH THEY DID, THEY VOTED ON IT YESTERDAY WITH SOME CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO REVIEW TO SEE IF WE ARE OKAY

WITH. >> 071.

>> DOING THE BUSINESS 0725. >> I DON'T KNOW DO WE DO IT NOW

OR WHEN WE GO TO EXECUTIVE? >> YOU CAN DO IT RIGHT NOW, BUT IF YOU WANT TO ASK TO BRING IT IN WE HAVE TO VOTE UNANIMOUSLY.

KNOW WE DON'T. YES WE DO. >> UNDER THAT PROVISION IT WAS BUSINESS NEGOTIATION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S CALLED AND I'M SORRY I MISSED THIS THE FIRST TIME AROUND. IT'S ON ME.

>> OKAY SO IS THAT YOUR MOTION? >> WHAT'S THE PROPER MOTION?

UNDER WHAT SECTION? >> 551.072.

>> 25. >> 25.

>> THAT WOULD BE THE REQUEST BASED ON HOW WE HAVE DONE IT.

>> SO IS THIS? >> REQUESTING TO GO TO EXECUTIVE UNDER THAT SECTION AND THAT HAS TO BE 5-0 VOTE.

>> MAKING FINDING OF A COURT HAVING THE DISCUSSION IN PUBLIC WILL BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE COUNTY'S BARGAINING POSITION.

>> YES MA'AM. >> DO I NEED TO MAKE AS EMOTION

OR REQUEST OF THE COURT ? >> OR WE GO DOWN THE LINE?

BECAUSE IT IS 5-0. >> I THINK IT IS CLEAR.

>> REQUEST TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER THAT QUESTION.

>> COMMISSIONER PUSLEY YOUR VOTE IT HAS TO BE 5-0 TO BRING IT IN.

>> YEAH I'M FINE. >>

>> YES >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

>> YES. >> 5-0.

>> TO DO WHAT? >> THE LONDON TIRZ DISCUSSION.

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>> ONLY THE LONDON TIRZ. >> YES MA'AM. NOW I WOULD GO BACK AND THE DISCUSSION ON THE COUNTYWIDE TAX POLICY WOULD GO BACK TO THE TABLE TO WHENEVER THE JUDGE WANTS TO BRING IT BACK SO THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION TO TABLE THAT PART OF 12 TO COINCIDE WITH WHAT WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED.

>> BRING IT BACK ON THE 24TH? >> YES, POTENTIALLY TO 24TH. IF WE GET IT DONE ON THE 10TH. WE WILL SEE IF THAT CHANGES. ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. SORRY ABOUT THAT SIDE RAIL. YOU CAN COME BACK UP. YOU ARE BACK, SORRY. GO AHEAD.

>> THE MOTION TO TABLE. WHO MADE THAT?

[4. Discuss and consider acceptance of a portion of Masters Street and Amanda Lane located in the Stonegate (Unit 1) Subdivision and Precinct 1 into the Nueces County roadway inventory for maintenance.]

>> CHESNEY AND I SECONDED. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTANCE OF A PORTION OF THE MASTER STREET ON A MANDOLINE LOCATED IN STONEGATE UNIT ONE SUBDIVISION PRECINCT 1 INTO NUECES COUNTY ROADWAY INVENTORY FOR MAINTENANCE. I KNOW I WENT OUT THERE BEFORE , IS THIS UP TO COUNTY STANDARDS? ARE WE TAKING THIS? WHAT HAVE THEY DONE, THE WORK YOU ARE

ASKING FOR LAST YEAR? >> YES MA'AM WE ARE RECOMMENDING, I KNOW THE ROAD MET COUNTY REQUIREMENTS AND THERE WERE SOME ISSUES WITH DRAINAGE AND I KNOW WE HAVE DONE SOME DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

>> YES AND WE HAD TROUBLE WITH THE DEVELOPER. BUT THIS, YOUR

GOOD MOVING FORWARD? >> YES MA'AM.

>> I AM STILL NOT CONVINCED WE SHOULDN'T PROCEED WITH ACTION AGAINST THAT DEVELOPER BECAUSE THEY DEFINITELY VIOLATED WHAT THEY WERE INSTRUCTED TO DO. I WAS HERE WHEN THE PROJECT STARTED. WE GAVE THEM SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS ON WHAT THEY HAD TO

DO AND THEY DID NOT DO IT. >> EVEN AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER YOU CAME OVER TO ONE OF THE MEETINGS TO HELP US OUT , THANK YOU FOR THAT. I KNOW THIS WAS A BIG DEAL AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND THE ROAD IS BETTER THAN IT WAS WHEN WE WENT TO LOOK AT THIS.

>> IT'S A LITTLE BETTER BUT NO DOUBT IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME WORK. JUAN AND I HAVE VISITED ABOUT THIS NUMEROUS TIMES. WE THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

>> I WILL MAKE THE MOTION FOR DISCUSSION. GO AHEAD SORRY.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK. NOW HAVE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS . I'M NEVER ONE TO NOT SUPPORT SOMETHING IN ONE OF OUR PRECINCTS BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK. TO ME, IT'S THE PRINCIPLE OF THE ISSUE. ARE WE SUPPORTING GOOD DEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPERS? ARE WE TAKING ON A BURDEN THAT IN PERPETUITY WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN? SO IT IS ONE THING IF THEY COME IN WITH THE RIGHT STANDARDS AND DEVELOP AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND ARE GOOD PARTNERS, BUT THERE ARE NUMEROUS EXAMPLES OF BAD FAITH DEVELOPERS. I DON'T EVEN WANT TO CALL THEM DEVELOPERS BECAUSE DEVELOPER IS A POSITIVE THING AND SOMEONE WHO HAS A PROFESSIONAL CODE OR STANDARDS TO FOLLOW AND A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE JUST TRYING TO SELL OFF PROPERTY AND MOST OF THE TIME THAT PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE POORLY ELEVATED DRAINAGE AREAS. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY PROPERTY OWNERS ARE SELLING OFF SWATHS OF LAND BECAUSE THEY ARE LOW SPOTS MANY TIMES IN THEIR FIELDS. SO THEY WANT TO GET RID OF THEM AND MAKE MONEY SO THEY SELL THEM, PARCEL OFF AND SELL THEM AND WHO IS LEFT ON THE HOOK , THE TAXPAYERS. THIS DAY AND AGE TALKING ABOUT BEING RESPONSIBLE WITH TAX DOLLARS I FEEL THIS IS GOING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. WE ARE ALMOST GOING DOWN THAT ROAD ALREADY SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO GO WITH BUT TO SUPPORT.

I AGREE COMMISSIONER, IT IS YOUR PRECINCT, I HAVE HEARTBURN OVER IT BUT I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE I'M NOT SUPPORTING THE NEEDS OF YOUR PRECINCT. I DON'T KNOW, HOW DO WE AVOID THIS GOING FORWARD? I BELIEVE THAT IS AN OPEN QUESTION. YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER NOW BUT HOW DO WE IMPROVE THIS SO THE NEXT TIME , BECAUSE WE INHERITED PROPERTIES THAT WERE ALREADY THERE. THESE WERE HOMES ESTABLISHED?

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>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND THEN WE REVERSE ENGINEERED. I KNOW THERE WAS SUPPORT THAT THE COURT PUT INTO FIXING DRAINAGE, WE SAW THE PHOTOS WITH PEOPLE COMING IN FROM THE COMMUNITY SHOWING AND EXPLAINING, WE GET IT NOBODY WANTS TO LIVE WITH WATER UP TO THE DOORWAYS OR THEIR HOMES, DRAINAGE WAS NONEXISTENT SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS GOING FORWARD WE TRY TO AVOID THESE PROBLEMS SO WE HAVE IT DONE THE RIGHT WAY SO YOU CAN HELP ON OUR BEHALF TO MONITOR THIS AND SET THE STANDARD AND THEY KNOW NOT TO WASTE TIME BY COMING IN WITH A PROJECT THAT'S HALFWAY AND HALF THOUGHT OUT OR FINANCED AND PUT THE BURDEN ON US BECAUSE IN THE DAY AND AGE WITH LIMITED RESOURCES THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN CONTINUE TO KEEP THIS TREND UP.

I WILL SUPPORT IT. >> EXTREMELY FAIR COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER. I HAVE A LOT OF HEARTBURN OVER THIS AS WELL. I WOULD LIKE TO TELL THE COUNTY ATTORNEY , I THINK WE NEED TO REVIEW THIS. THIS IS NOT JUST CONTROLLED BY THE COUNTY. WHAT THE COUNTY DOES IS ENFORCE THE LAWS THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS SET OUT FOR WHAT ARE THEY CALL THEM, GENERAL BUILDING RULES.

>> BUILDING CODES YES SIR. >> THOSE CODES WERE PUT IN PLACE TO HELP DEFER OR KEEP COLONIALISTS FROM HAPPENING IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY WERE OUT OF CONTROL. AND IN THIS CASE, I THINK THEY WERE VIOLATED. I THINK THE STATE BUILDING CODES WERE VIOLATED AND IT IS DISAPPOINTING AND IT WAS A LOT TO BE DISCUSSED AND IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. BUT, YOUR COMMENTS ARE FAIR, COMMISSIONER. ANYWAY, WE HAVE ALREADY SPENT , BEFORE I GOT HERE, THE COUNTY WITH THE PREVIOUS COMMISSIONER FOR PRECINCT 1 JUST STARTED TO PUT IN A LARGE DETENTION POND TO HELP WITH FLOODING OCCURRING IN THE SUBDIVISION AND THE JOB HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND THE LAST BIG

RAIN EVENT WE HAD IT WORK. >> THAT'S CORRECT COMMISSIONER.

>> WE NOW HAVE A NICE FISHING POND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND MOVING FORWARD, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. LAST FOR YOU

[5. Discuss and consider approval of Change Order No. 3 for the Nueces County Courthouse and Jail Wastewater Line Replacement Project.]

THE CHANGE ORDER. >> SORRY I NEED TO GO BACK A LITTLE BIT. HAD A QUESTION I NEVER GOT TO ASK. I KNOW WE CLOSED IT ALREADY BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A COMMENT ON AMANDA LANE. YOU KNOW WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN THE COURT WITH AMANDA LANE. I KNOW IT IS IN YOUR PRECINCT AND THOSE STATEMENTS THAT HE MADE AND I SUPPORT YOU 100% COMMISSIONER, BUT WE HEAR ABOUT HOW MANY TIMES PEOPLE FROM AMANDA LANE GO AROUND AND AROUND AND AROUND AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE DEVELOPER WAS REQUIRED TO PUT A BOND OR NOT BUT SOMETIMES THAT HAPPENS WE AWARD THE BAD DEVELOPERS OVER GOOD AND MAYBE WE SHOULD GO TO THE BAD DEVELOPERS AND START SHOWING YOU KNOW WHAT MAYBE WE NEED TO PUT A BOND UNTIL THE ROAD IS FINISHED. WE HAVE A POLICY , WE DON'T HAVE THE STANDARDS, BUT THE ROAD WAS NEVER UP TO STANDARDS FOR THE COUNTY CODE. SO WE WORKED ON IT TO HELP THE PEOPLE OUT, BUT YOU KNOW WHO IS TO SAY THAT NEXT MONTH WE HAVE ANOTHER ROAD SOMEWHERE ELSE? THE SAME THING HAPPENS SO WE CREATE THE SAME POLICY SAYING YOU KNOW WHAT, JUST DO THIS OR WE WILL TAKE IT OVER. I THINK SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE WE HAVE TO BE REAL

CAREFUL. >> I DON'T DISAGREE AND I THINK THAT'S MAYBE SOMETHING TO PUT ON ANOTHER AGENDA TO DISCUSS MAYBE REQUIRING THAT IN THE FUTURE, BUT LET'S BE CLEAR THIS COUNTY HAS STEPPED IN ON A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY, WE HAVE HELPED OUT NEIGHBORS AND COMMUNITIES AND THINGS SO IS IT OUR RESPONSIBILITY? I THINK I HAVE HAD THE ARGUMENT AS WELL MANY TIMES WHEN WE ARE FIXING A

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>> IT WAS THE ROAD OWNED BY BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD BY THE RESIDENTS SO THEY'LL AGREE TO SIGN SOMETHING?

>> THE DOCUMENT , IT HAS DEDICATED RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR PUBLIC USE SO THE PROPERTY DOES NOT HAVE TO BE REVERTED BACK OR GO BACK TO US SINCE IT IS ALREADY PLOTTED AS A PUBLIC ROAD AND REGARDING THIS , THIS WAS OR ISN'T IN THE ET J SO IN THE ET J THE CITY REVIEWS PLANS AND ADMINISTERS PLANS SO THERE WAS A LETTER SENT OUT IN A CLARIFYING THERE WAS A LETTER SENT OUT BY THE CITY APPROVING THE SUBDIVISION AND THIS IS BEFORE MY TIME, APPROVING THE SUBDIVISION AND THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATOR WAS IN PUBLIC WORKS, SAID WE NEVER WENT OUT AND INSPECTED SO IT WAS SOMETHING DONE PRIOR.

>> IS THE SIMILAR TO THE LETTER THAT WENT OUT ON THE ONE HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT SAID WE ACCEPT AND THEY CAME THING AND WE ACCEPTED AND HAVE NOT KIND OF DEAL? THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM, THE CITY SENDS LETTERS OUT AND DEVELOPERS THINK THEY HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED SO THEY DON'T COME TO US AND ASKED THEM SO ON THIS ONE AND I APOLOGIZE SO THE QUESTION I HAVE WAS DID WE REQUIRE THE SAME THING WE REQUIRED ON OTHER ROADS THAT WE ACCEPTED AFTER THE FACT WAS STANDARDS AND CULVERTS AND ALL THAT?

>> YES SIR ON THE ROAD ITSELF BASED ON FINDINGS WE FOUND BEFORE MY TIME THE ROAD WAS CONSTRUCTED PER THE REQUIREMENT.

THE ONLY THING WAS PART OF THE DRAINAGE. BASED ON THE POND INSTALLED. THE FLOODING PART OF IT.

>> A LOT OF PEOPLE IN LONDON WANT THE ROADS IN THERE TO GET THEIR STUFF BUILT TO STANDARDS AS LONG AS WE ARE BEING CONSISTENT BECAUSE I HAVE HAD TO TELL PEOPLE YOU GOT TO DO WORK BEFORE WE TAKE THEM. AS LONG AS WE DO THE SAME WITH EVERYTHING

THAT'S GOOD. >> OKAY WE ARE GOOD MOVING FORWARD DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDER NUMBER THREE FOR THE COURTHOUSE AND JAIL WASTEWATER.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MOTION AND SECOND, I ASSUME YOU ARE THE SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THE MOTION

[1. Discuss and consider approving the transfer of existing County-issued WEX fuel cards to a WEX fuel card program operated in conjunction with Enterprise Fleet Management that features the ability to more effectively track fuel usage and costs and allows for use of the cards at additional fueling facilities; and related matters.]

[2. Discuss and consider approving the Agreement to Sell Customer Vehicles and the Consignment Auction Agreement with Enterprise Fleet Management, Inc., for the sale of County fleet vehicles; and related matters.]

PASSES, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU JUDGE AND

COMMISSIONERS. >> ITEM F PURCHASING AND THAT

SHE WAS TO TAKE A BREAK. >> MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS ONE

AND TWO UNDER F. >> WE HAD THE PRESENTATION, GOOD STUFF. HAVE A SECOND, MOTION TO APPROVE NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO ON THE WEX FUEL CARDS WITH ENTERPRISE RENTAL AND POTENTIALLY SELL THE VEHICLES WHEN WE TRADE THEM IN. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION, THANK

[1. Discuss and consider setting Thursday, September 4, 2025 as the date for a public hearing to discuss the 2025 Property Tax Rate for Nueces County, Nueces County Farm to Market, and Nueces County Hospital District; The Interim County Auditor is recommending the Voter Approval Rate of $0.286449 per $100 valuation for Nueces County; $0.003340 per $100 valuation for Nueces County Farm to Market, and $0.097340 for Nueces County Hospital District. Commissioners' Court must take a record vote and authorize publishing the appropriate notices.]

YOU. >> DON'T FORGET THE AIRPORT.

>> ITEM G THE AUDITOR.

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER SETTING THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 4 WE HAVE ALREADY DONE AT 9:00 A.M. FOR THE DATE FOR PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR NUECES COUNTY. FARM TO MARKET, NUECES COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT, NUECES COUNTY , THE INTERIM COUNTY AUDITOR RECOMMENDS , DO YOU NEED TO SAY ANYTHING? AM I INTERRUPTING BECAUSE I'M FIXING TO READ AND ASK FOR VOTE SO IF YOU NEED TO TELL US ANYTHING. THERE'S NO REASON TO READ THIS.

>> THAT'S FINE, I WANTED TO MENTION THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE TRUTH AND TAXATION PROCESS TO ADOPT THE PROPERTY

TAX RATE. >> SETTING THE CEILING TODAY WHEN YOU VOTE TODAY IT IS NOT THE IMPLEMENT SO YOU DON'T HAVE

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>> THE FIRST STEP AND TYPICALLY COUNTY HAS ADOPTED VOTER APPROVAL RATE WHICH IS TO BE THE ROLLBACK RATE, THE HIGHEST RATE ALLOWABLE WITHOUT ELECTION OF THE VOTERS. SEPTEMBER 4, WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. ALSO WANT TO MENTION IT WILL BE IN THE NEWSPAPER WITH A CERTAIN NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER, NEXT WEDNESDAY AND THEN A PUBLIC HEARING SEPTEMBER 4. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE MOTION TO ADOPT THE TAX RATE SEPTEMBER 10. SO THOSE ARE KIND OF COMING UP IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. SO TODAY'S ACTION IS SETTING THE CEILING ON SEPTEMBER 10 THE COMMISSIONERS COURT CAN VOTE ON A LOWER RATE, BUT NOT A HIGHER RATE. SO WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING IS THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE AND FOR NUECES COUNTY THIS INCLUDES FARM TO MARKET, A RATE OF .286449, PER $100 VALUATION. THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL VOTE ON THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT RATE IN THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT IS .0973 IS 40 PER $100,000 VALUATION. I KNOW JOHNNY MENTIONED THEY WOULD BE GOING FOR LOWER RATE BUT WE ARE SETTING THE CEILING TODAY , IN THE MIDST HAPPENS BETWEEN NOW AND SEPTEMBER 10 THEY NEED TO ADOPT THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE SO

THAT IS BEING REQUESTED TODAY. >> I WILL NEED A VOTE FROM EACH OF YOU. RECORD VOTE. I MOVE SETTING THE CEILING FOR THE 2025 PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR NUECES COUNTY AT THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE OF .289789 PER $100 VALUATION, THE NUECES COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT AT THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE OF .097340 PER $100 VALUATION. SETTING THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 4 AND WHEN WE SAID NUECES COUNTY THAT WAS EVERYTHING, FARM TO MARKET YES.

SETTING THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 4, 2025 AS DATE THE PUBLIC HEARING BEGINNING AT 9:00 A.M. TO DISCUSS THE 2025 PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR NUECES COUNTY AND NUECES COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND AUTHORIZING THE PUBLISHING OF THE APPROPRIATE NOTICES. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION, WHAT IS YOUR VOTE COMMISSIONER PUSLEY? A RECORD VOTE. EACH ONE OF US HAS TO DO IT. COMMISSIONER MAREZ AYE

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY >> NO.

>> FOUR AYE AND ONE NO. THIS IS THE CEILING NOT THE PROPERTY TAX SO I WILL PASS THIS. THAT CAN MOVE DOWN BUT IT CANNOT GO UP.

IT REQUIRED ALL OF US TO HAVE RECORD VOTE WE HAD TO SAY OUT LOUD. DO YOU NEED THIS MOTION I JUST READ? I CAN CERTAINLY HAND

THIS TO YOUR. YES, OKAY. >> NOTHING IS SET YET.

[2. Discuss and consider approving Budget Amendment No.13 for Fiscal Year 2024-2025 and all related matters.]

>> RIGHT, WE CAN'T GO HIGHER. WE CAN GO LOWER AT ANY TIME.

NUMBER TWO. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER 13 FISCAL YEAR 24-25 AND ALL RELATED MATTERS.

>> THESE ARE ROUTINE BUDGET AMENDMENTS RECOMMENDED FOR

APPROVAL. >> MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND SECOND WITH ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE

[1. Discuss and consider Judicial salary increases effective September 1, 2025 as approved by Legislative agenda as SB 293.]

FOR THE REST OF THE MONTH I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE BECAUSE LEGISLATURE SAID WE HAVE TO.

>> SECOND. >> EMOTION AND SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION

PASSES. >> WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A

CHOICE. >> WE DON'T, BUT LET'S BE CLEAR. A LOT OF THESE OTHER THAN COUNTY COURT AT LAW ARE PAID BY

[1. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving a cooperative contract purchase with Lenovo (United States) Inc. under Texas DIR Contract No. CPO-4839 for the purchase of laptops and desktops in the amount of $133,596 for computer warranty replacements, contingent upon review and approval by the County Attorney; and related matters.]

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>> IT IS TYPICALLY DONE THIS TIME OF YEAR.

>> I KNOW WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR. >> YOUR HONOR I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS IF I CAN GET A SECOND. I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I DISCUSSED THIS EXTENSIVELY WITH AND MADE CERTAIN THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO NEED TO DO. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF LAPTOPS AND PCS HERE IN THE COUNTY THAT HAVE REACHED FIVE-YEAR LIFE. MANY OF THEM ARE STILL RUNNING THE OLD WINDOWS 10 WHICH IS NO LONGER SUPPORTED BY MICROSOFT AND WE HAVE TO UPGRADE THEM. WE WOULD EITHER HAVE TO PAY TO UPGRADE THE PC REPLACE IT AND IN MANY CASES IT'S NOT WORTH THE UPGRADE. SO WE LOOKED AT THIS EXTENSIVELY. I HAVE ALSO CHALLENGED ON A GO FORWARD BASIS WITH RESPECT TO LAPTOPS, THAT BEFORE WE JUST GO HANDING OUT LAPTOPS TO EVERYBODY, WE MAKE CERTAIN IT IS NECESSARY FOR THEIR JOB FUNCTION TO HAVE A LAPTOP.

>> I AGREE, BUT THIS NUMBER ALSO PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER EVENTUALLY. BUT WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR THAT NOW.

>> THE REASON, THIS TIME OF YEAR WE DON'T REALLY, WE DO NOT PREDETERMINE HOW MUCH WE ARE GOING TO SPEND, IT IS KIND OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE. WE CAN DO IT LIKE THAT SO ALWAYS REVIEW WITH COMMISSIONER PUSLEY AND LET HIM KNOW HOW IT WOULD AFFECT US, THE NUMBER WE GO FOR. WE DID SKIP LAST YEAR BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET

WOES. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. SORRY. MICHAEL ROBINSON?

>> SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY 'S OFFICE. THERE SOME PAPERWORK WE NEED TO CLEAN UP ON THE LEGAL SIDE, WE ARE FINE ON THE QUANTITY AND AMOUNT. GIVE KENT BROWN THE OPPORTUNITY TO FINISH THE REVIEW.

>> I WILL MAKE THAT PART OF THE MOTION.

>> AND SECOND YES, DID YOU GET THAT? YES, THANK YOU. IF THERE

[4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.]

EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE IS GIVEN THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY ELECT TO GO INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ANYTIME DURING THE MEETING TO DISCUSS MATTERS LISTED ANYWHERE ON THE AGENDA, WHEN AUTHORIZED BY THE PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. TO THE EXTENT THERE HAS BEEN A PAST PRACTICE OF DISTINGUISHING ITEMS FOR PUBLIC DELIBERATION AND THOSE FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE PUBLIC IS ADVISED THAT THE COURT IS DEPARTING FROM THAT PRACTICE, AND RESERVES THE RIGHT TO DISCUSS ANY LISTED AGENDA ITEMS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WHEN AUTHORIZED BY LAW TO DO SO. IN THE EVENT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT ELECTS TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION REGARDING AN AGENDA ITEM, THE SECTION OR SECTIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE PUBLICLYLISTED AGENDA ITEMS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WHEN AUTHORIZED BY LAW TO DO SO. IN THE EVENT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT ELECTS TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION REGARDING AN AGENDA ITEM, THE SECTION OR SECTIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE PUBLICLYLISTED AGENDA ITEMS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WHEN AUTHORIZED BY LAW TO DO SO. IN THE EVENT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT ELECTS TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION REGARDING AN AGENDA ITEM, THE SECTION OR SECTIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE PUBLICLYLISTED AGENDA ITEMS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WHEN AUTHORIZED BY LAW TO DO SO. IN THE EVENT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT ELECTS TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION REGARDING AN AGENDA ITEM, THE SECTION OR SECTIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE PUBLICLY ATTORNEY(S) INCLUDING MATTERS RELATED TO LITIGATION; DELIBERATE REGARDING REAL PROPERTY, PROSPECTIVE GIFT(S), PERSONNEL MATTERS, INCLUDING TERMINATION, COUNTY ADVISORY BODIES, SECURITY DEVICES, AND/OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND OTHER MATTERS THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. UPON COMPLETION OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY IN AN OPEN SESSION TAKE SUCH ACTION AS APPROPRIATE ON ITEMS DISCUSSED IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

CONSULT WITH COUNTY ATTORNEY AND OUTSIDE COUNSEL ON LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING; AND RELATED MATTERS (TEX GOV'T CODE 551.0725 OR 551.071); DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND TAKE ACTION IN REGULAR SESSION IF NEEDED, INCLUDING RATIFYING THE HIRING OF DENTON, NAVARRO, RODRIGUEZ, BERNAL, SANTEE & ZECH PC, ATTORNEYS AT LAW.

CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING LEGAL MATTERS REGARDING THE SALE OF 316.585 ACRES OF LAND ADJACENT TO THE RICHARD M. BORCHARD FAIRGROUNDS (TEX GOV'T CODE 551.0725). WE

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ALL RELATED MATTERS TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551 POINT TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.0725. AND IT IS

>>> I BELIEVE THERE WAS NO FIRST TWO ITEMS AND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, YOU HAVE AN ACTION FOR THE 3- A 12.

>> YES, JUDGE. 3-A 12 IS -- EXCUSE ME, IT'S REACTING TO OR -- I'M LOOKING FOR THE WORD.

REACTING TO THE RESOLUTION FOR NEGOTIATION IN TERMS WITH NUECES COUNTY REINVESTMENT ZONE IN THE LONDON AREA FOR POTENTIAL CONSIDERATION, READING OFF THE RESOLUTION THE DATE PASSED, THE ITEM OF THE 20- YEAR TERM WOULD BE AGREEABLE -- I DON'T KNOW HOW I CAN DO THIS. THIS RESOLUTION I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION WITH AMENDMENTS THAT I READ TO THE RESOLUTION.

>> THAT'S GOOD.

>> SORRY. HOW ABOUT THAT? IF ANYONE WANTS TO SECOND THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> I'LL SECOND THAT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE FIRST ONE ON SEWER REQUIREMENT, THE WORDING IS INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT IN FINANCING PLAN TO RECEIVE INCENTIVE FUNDING.

THE DEVELOPMENT MUST BE CONNECTED TO CITY SEWER.

THE AMENDMENT WOULD BE AN ANNEXED INTO THE CITY LIMITS AFTER THE TERS IS FORMED. THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS ON A REIMBURSEMENT FOR ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES.

THE LANGUAGE WOULD BE CHANGED TO SEE, NUECES COUNTY WILL BE REIMBURSED FOR $50,000 PER YEAR.

THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI THERE BE REIMBURSED $100,000 A YEAR.

THE REST TO HAVE LANGUAGE WILL BE STRUCK.

BOARD COMPOSITION, IT WOULD BE -- A CHAIR WOULD BE APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THE VICE CHAIR ELECTED BY THE NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

THE REST WOULD BE STRUCK. THE CONSENT SECTION WOULD SAY THAT THE CITY -- I'M SORRY THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND BOARD OF REGENTS HAVE THE OPTION TO VETO ANYTHING NOT APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OR COMMISSIONER'S COURT. THAT WOULD BE THE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE. AND THE OTHER LANGUAGE THAT WOULD BE STRUCK WOULD SAY, IF VETOED BY EITHER OF THE GOVERNING BODIES IT WOULD NOT MOVE FORWARD.

PART OF THIS IS TO DIRECT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO FINALIZE THIS AGREEMENT. THA IF THAT'S UNCLEAR, PLEASE ASK. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TYPE THIS UP AND GET IT FOR THE MINUTES. HOPEFULLY THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS SENT OVER IS -- THAT'S BASICALLY THE REST OF THE TERMS --

>> I WAS GOING TO GET HIM TO GIVE YOU HIS NOTES.

THAT'S A LOT TO TRY TO KEEP TRACK OF, BUT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. GO AHEAD.

>> SO CAN WE -- SO A WAY TO SUMMARIZE --

>> I'M HAPPY TO --

>> DO YOU HAVE THE ONE -- THE ONE THAT WE HAD IN EXECUTIVE SESSION COULD BE GIVEN TO THEM AND I CAN WORK ON THE AMENDMENT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS SENT OVER IN EDITABLE FORM, BUT WHAT WE ARE AGREEING TO THAT THE CITY HAS PROPOSED IS THAT WOULD BE IN FOR A 25- YEAR TERM, WE WOULD BE IN FOR A 20- YEAR TERM.

THAT THE FIRST SUBZONE WOULD ONLY CONTAIN THE EXPENSES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S PROPOSED AN ESTIMATED $65 MILLION IN DEVELOPMENT COST WITH $36. 6 REIMBURSED --

>> SLOW DOWN. >> HE'S TRYING.

>> HE'S NOT WRITING ALL THIS DOWN. I'M JUST SUMMARIZING. WITH $30. 6 MILLION REIMBURSED WITH TERS FUNDING, AND THE REMAINING $8 MILLION PAID BY THE DEVELOPER.

I READ THE SEWER REQUIREMENTS. NUECES COUNTY PARTICIPATION WOULD BE 45% AND THE CITY'S WOULD BE 50%. AGAIN, THEY'RE IN FOR 25

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THAT WILL BE REVIEWED BY US, AND WE WOULD HAVE -- THE CITY WOULD HAVE HAVE SEVEN SEATS ON THE BOARD, THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE FIVE SEATS AND THE DEVELOPMENTAL REPRESENTATIVE WOULD HAVE ONE SEAT.

ANYTHING THAT'S NOT CLEAR, PLEASE ASK.

I'M TRYING TO DO THIS THE BEST I CAN TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR THE INTENT FOR THE MINUTES BUT ALSO IT'S CLEAR FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR YOU.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT SUMMARY. IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER.

DO WE NEED TO ENTERTAIN OR IS THERE ANYONE THAT NEEDS TO COMMENT ON THIS OTHER THAN THE COURT? OKAY. I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR --

>> WAIT, DID YOU HAVE --

>> DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION?

>> SO WHEN IS OUR NEXT MEETING,

THE 10TH? >> YES.

THIS GOES BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR SECOND READING WHEN THEY MEET AGAIN.

>> IT'S GOT TO COME BACK TO US TO APPROVE WHATEVER THEY

APPROVE. >> THEY DEVIATE IT WOULD COME BACK TO US. IF THEY JUST ACCEPT WHAT WE HAVE AMENDED, WE'RE DONE OTHER THAN JENNY WOULD BRING BACK TO US THE FINAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.

>> YEAH.

>> AND THEN PART OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WE CAN DIG INTO LATER IS HOW WE WANT TO APPROPRIATE OUR FIVE SEATS, ET CETERA.

I THINK WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE POSSIBILITY OF EACH OF US APPOINTING ONE OR OURSELVES, BUT WE CAN GET INTO THOSE DETAILS LATER. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR FIVE SEATS, WHICH THEY AGREED TO.

>> SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO PASS THIS WITH ALL OF THAT PART OF MAYBE WHATEVER. I THINK THE INTENT WAS CLEAR TO ALLOW THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO CLEAR THIS UP WITH THOSE NOTES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEGOTIATIONS FOR US THAT WE'RE -- I THINK --

>> WE NEED TO HAVE -- THE AMENDMENTS THAT HE'S MAKING, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT IN THE RECORD.

>> YES, SIR. I UNDERSTAND.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO WORK WITH.

AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF WHAT THEY SENT OVER WAS EDITABLE.

IF IT ISN'T, WE'LL GET A REDLINE VERSION. SO WE'LL GET THAT TO SEECH EACH OF YOU TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT WE DID. BUT THIS IS TO KEEP THE PROCESS MOVING AND GET IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR HOPEFULLY FINAL APPROVAL.

>> INTENT IS THERE, SO JUST CLARIFYING THE LANGUAGE.

>> DEVIL IS IN THE DETAIL.

>> YOU MENTIONED -- HOW ABOUT WATER?

>> I THINK THE WATER IS AUTOMATIC, BUT WE CAN INCLUDE THAT. IT NEEDS TO HAVE SEWER AND WATER. THAT'S PART OF THE CITY'S DEAL.

>> YOU'RE SAYING 25?

>> NO, THEY WANTED US TO GO 25 YEARS, WE'RE GOING 20, THEY'RE GOING 25. THEY WANTED US TO GO THE SAME AS THEM. WE WENT TO 45, THEY'RE STAYING AT 50. THAT WAS PART OF OUR OFFER, THEY NEEDED TO BE IN AT A HIGHER PERCENTAGE THAN WE ARE, AND A LONGER TERM, BECAUSE THEY GET SO MUCH MORE VALUE OUT OF THIS THAN THE COUNTIES DO.

>> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? ALL THOSE IN

FAVOR, SAY AYE. >> AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES, AND WE PROMISE WE'LL GET YOU MORE INFORMATION. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY - - I'M SORRY, IT WAS JUST BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT ON THE TAX CEILING ITEM, Y'ALL NEED TO DO TWO RECORD VOTES, ONE FOR NUECES COUNTY AND ONE FOR HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

>> THEY HAVE TO BE SEPARATE?

>> YES, MA'AM. THE TAX

OFFICE JUST NOTIFIED US. >> OKAY.

I DON'T HAVE THAT PAPER ANYMORE.

HOLD ON. I THINK I TOOK IT BACK TO THE BACK. DO YOU HAVE YOUR PAPER? I KNOW, I LEFT IT IN THE BACK. PAYTON RAN TO GRAB ONE.

IS THAT THE CHANGED ONE THIS MORNING?

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>> SO WE CAN DO THE COUNTYCOUNTY A WHOLE AND THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AS A WHOLE.

>> AND PROBABLY THE DATE, TOO. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO VOTE THE DATE AGAIN, RIGHT?

>> WE CAN TAKE THAT OUT, YES, UH-HUH.

OKAY, IT IS MY MOTION TO RECALL OUR VOTE ON ITEM G-1.

WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

>> AYE.

>> WAIT, WHAT --

>> WE ALREADY VOTED ON IT, SO I'M CALLING IT BACK.

>> OKAY. JUST TO VOTE AGAIN.

>> VOTE AGAIN, YES. WE HAVE TO RETRACT WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO VOTE DIRECTLY.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> SO NOW MY MOTION FOR ITEM 3-G- 1 WOULD BE -- I MOVE FOR GETTING THE CEILING FOR THE 2025 CEILING.

LET ME BE CLEAR, PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR NUECES COUNTY AT THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE OF 0. 29789 PER $100 VALUATION.

AND THAT IS ALSO AUTHORIZING THE PUBLISHING OF THE APPROPRIATE NOTICES.

AND NOTING THAT THAT RATE INCLUDES THE FARM-TO- MARKET AND ALL OF THE NUECES COUNTY RATES.

THE PUBLIC HEARING WE ALREADY SAID IN AN EARLIER VOTE -- WE DIDN'T VOTE ON IT, WE JUST SET IT IN OUR CALENDAR. WE HAVE ALREADY DONE IT IN OUR CALENDAR, SO WE'RE GOOD. SO I AM VOTING YES ON THAT, SETTING THE EELING AT THE 0.289789.

COMMISSIONER, YOUR VOTE?

>> AYE.

>> COMMISSIONER MA RAZE?

>> AYE.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ?

>> AYE.

>> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY?

>> AYE.

>> SO FOUR AYES AND ONE NO. THE NEXT VOTE I HAVE IS I MADE THE MOTION TO SET THE CEILING FOR THE 2025 PROPERTY TAX PARTICIPATE FOR THE NUECES COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT AT THE VOTER APPROVED RATE, MIND YOU AGAIN, THIS IS THE CEILING, DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, THAT'S 0 . 97340 PER $100 VALUATION, AND ALSO AUTHORIZING THE PUBLISHING OF THE APPROPRIATE NOTICES S FOR THAT. I VOTE YES.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY?

>> NO.

>> FOUR AYES AND ONE NO. I BELIEVE THAT CLARIFIES AND CORRECTS WHAT WE WERE TOLD WE VOTED IT WRONG EARLIER.

SO THAT SHOULD BE ALL OF THE BUSINESS BEFORE US TODAY, UNLESS

[ Adjournment in Memory (upon request)]

ARE THERE ANYANY ADJOURNMENTMENTS?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> I HAVE ONE, TOO. SO WHOEVER WANTS TO START FIRST.

>> JUDGE, YOU'RE IN CHARGE.

>> THAT'S FINE. >> YOU WANT ME TO?

>> THE FIRST ONE IS RENEE JOHNSON.

SHE WAS 21 AND TAKEN FROM US FAR TOO SOON.

UNFORTUNATELY, SHE WAS INVOLVED IN A HEAD- ON COLLISION ON 361 THE OTHER DAY.

SHE WAS BORN OF A HEART OF GOLD AND CARRIED A PASSION IN HELPING OTHERS. SHE WAS A RAY OF SUNSHINE TO ALL WHO KNEW HER AND DEEPLY LOVING. SHE LIVED WITH A THAT TOUCHED COUNTLESS HEARTS. TO KNOW HALEY WAS TO BE UPLIFTED WITH HER UNWAVERING BELIEF IN GOOD IN OTHERS. CLASS OF 2022, SHE EXCELLED GRADUATELY, GRADUATING WITH TOP HONORS BEFORE PURSUING HER DREAM OF BECOMING A NURSE IN DELMAR NURSING PROGRAM AND SET TO GRADUATE IN DECEMBER 2025 AS A REGISTERED NURSE. HER DEDICATION WAS EVIDENT THROUGH HER WORK AT DOCTOR'S REGIONAL AND POURED HER JOY INTO HER FAMILY'S BUSINESS, WORKING AT THE BURGER COMPANY. SHE GAVE HER ALL IN EVERYTHING SHE DID AT WORK AND

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SHE EMBRACED LIFE TO THE FULLEST AND DID IT IN HER SHORT LIFE. HER LAUGHTER, KINDST AND SPIRIT WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.

HER SHE IS SURVIVED BY HER LOVING PARTS, HER SISTER, MADISON, HER GRAND PARENTS, RYAN AND DENISE JOHNSON, PEOPLE THAT I'VE KNOWN FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. DENISE WAS ONE OF MY TEACHERS IN HIGH SCHOOL. HER UNCLES AND AUNTS, JASON AND RACHEL, AND DYLAN AND CHRISTY, AND COUSINS AVERY JOHNSON. OUR CONDOLENCES GO OUT TO THE FAMILY BASED ON THIS HORRIBLE LOSS AND TRAGIC -- ANOTHER TRAGIC DEATH HAS BEEN TAKEN -- LIFE HAS BEEN TAKEN FROM US FROM HIGHWAY 361. OUR CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY.

THE SECOND ONE IS SOMEONE THAT MANY OF US PROBABLY KNEW, LARRY ADAMS. WE ANNOUNCE THE PASSING OF LARRY ADAMS WHO LEFT US ON AUGUST 10, 2025, ONE DAY SHY OF HIS 75TH BIRTHDAY. HE DEPARTED THIS WORLD, LEAVING BEHIND A LEGACY OF BOLDNESS, LAUGHTER AND LOVE.

BORN IN 1950, HE WAS THE FIRST CHILD.

IT WAS CLEAR THAT HE POSSESSED A GENEROUS HEART AND TALENT FOR COMMANDING A ROOM AND TELLING A MOSTLY TRUE STORY.

THAT'S A VERY GOOD ASSESSMENT. IT WAS A GRADUATE OF KING HIGH SCHOOL, AND UPON GRADUATION, BECAME A LIFETIME DEVOTED TO TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY IN LUBBOCK, WHICH HE GRADUATED IN 1972.

ALTHOUGH PRACTICING LAW WAS AN AREA OF ACCOMPLISHMENT, IT WAS OBVIOUS IN THE PRIDE HE EXUDED WHEN HE SPOKE OF HIS SONS THAT BEING THEIR DAD WAS THE GREATEST JOY OF HIS LIFE. WHILE TRAVELING WITH THE RAIDERS BASEBALL TEAM, PUSHING THE LONGHORNS WITH HIS TWO YOUNGEST BOY OR WATCHING MATCHES FROM THE STANDS, HE WAS AT HIS BEST CHEERING ON HIS CHILDREN.

HE LOVED HIS SONS WELL, AND THIS LOVE AND PRIDE CARRIED OVER TO HIS ROLE AS GRANDPA LARRY. HE WAS SOMEONE THAT HELPED ME IN MY EARLY CAREER AND A MAN THAT I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF RESPECT FOR AND OUR CONDOLENCES TO THE ADAMS FAMILY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> A CREATIVE ATTORNEY.

>> DID YOU HAVE MORE, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY?

>> I'M DONE, THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, DID YOU HAVE ANY?

>> MR. ADAMS WAS ONE OF THE BEST ATTORNEYS I'VE EVER MET.

HE WAS MY GRANDDAUGHTER'S ATTORNEY AT THAT TIME, AND HE -- I REALLY ADMIRE WHAT HE DID IN HELPING US OUT. EXPENSIVE BUT GOOD.

SO MAY HE REST IN PEACE AND MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY.

>> COMMISSIONER? >> I HAVE A COUPLE.

I WANT TO SHARE FIRST, THE PASSING OF HERBIE VARZA, PASSED AWAY AUGUST 5, 2025.

BORN AND RAISED IN CORPUS CHRISTI, HE WAS A VIETNAM VETERAN. HE GRADUATED FROM MOODY HIGH SCHOOL IN 1971 AND WAS CLASSMATES WITH MY PARENTS, AND STAYED CONNECTED WITH THEM THROUGHOUT THEIR LIVES AND WHEN I GOT INTO POLITICS, HE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST VOLUNTEERS THAT WE HAD AND HELPED GUIDE THE WAY FOR ME TO GET INTO -- CONNECTED WITH PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND GET SUPPORT IN MY FIRST ELECTIONS.

AND SO HE SERVED WITH THE NAVY FOR FOUR YEARS, AND THEN HE TURNED AROUND A 32- YEAR CAREER AS A LETTER CARRIER. HE SERVED WITH THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION WITH LETTER CARRIERS, BRANCH 1259 AS THE PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT.

AND HE WAS ALWAYS A VOLUNTEER, ALWAYS WILLING TO SUPPORT CAMPAIGNS THAT HE BELIEVED IN, AND HE NEVER TOOK ANYTHING OTHER THAN IF HE BELIEVED IN YOU, HE WAS GOING TO SUPPORT YOU. AND IT WAS NOTHING THAT WOULD COST YOU, OTHER THAN JUST TIME AND FRIENDSHIP WITH HIM, WHICH I WOULD GLADLY GIVE ANY OF THAT BACK TO BE ABLE TO VISIT WITH HIM AGAIN.

GOSH, IT'S HARD KNOW NOW THAT HE'S DONE.

MY CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

HE WILL BE REMEMBERED AT A SERVICE LATER THIS MONTH, AND SO HERBIE, YOU WILL BE MISSED. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR TIME TO OUR COMMUNITY AND SERVING OUR NATION AND INVOLVEMENT IN

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>> YES, I DID. SOZ WE DID READ IT, AGAIN.

JUDGE, I'LL SHARE A COUPLE COMMENTS AFTER YOU'RE DONE

READING. >> ARE YOU READY?

>> YES.

>> I AM GOING TO SHARE THE OBITUARY OF LIEUTENANT ALBERT STOUT, JR. , THE POLICE OFFICER. BLESSED ARE THE PEACEMAKERS FOR THEY SHALL BE CALLED THE CHILDREN OF GOD, MATTHEW 5:9.

THE FAMILY SHARES THE PASSING OF ALBERT STOUT, JR. , WHO, AT THE AGE OF 57, WAS CALLED HOME TO BE WITH OUR LORD AND SAVIOR TODAY, AUGUST 6, 2025, SURROUNDED BY HIS FAMILY WHO LOVED HIM MORE THAN LIFE ITSELF, AND THE QUIET STILLNESS OF THAT SACRED MOMENT, HAVING GAPED A FAITHFULER ISIS VENT AND WARRIOR OF PEACE. ALBERT WAS BORN ON JULY 2ND , 1968 IN CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS, ENTRUSTED BY OUR LORD TO ALBERTO STOUT, SR. , AND MORENO STOUT, A LIFE DEVOTED TO SERVICE, SACRIFICE AND UNWAVERING LOVE.

ALBERT WAS RAISED IN HUMILITY, SHAPED BY INTEGRITY, AND ROOTED IN HIS CHRISTIAN FAITH, WHERE HE WOULD GROW INTO A MAN WHOSE PRESENCE ALONE BROUGHT CALM, SAFETY AND STRENGTH TO THOSE AROUND HIM.

LIEUTENANT ALBERT STOUT, JR. , A TRUE PROTECTOR AT HOUT, GAVE OVER 31 YEARS OF LOYAL AND SELFLESS SERVICE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

HE WORE HIS BADGE NOT AS A SYMBOL OF AUTHORITY BUT A SHIELD FOR THE HURTING AND THE LOST AND THE VULNERABLE.

WHETHER IT WAS AN OFF- DUTY SECURITY AT A FOOTBALL GAME OR LEADING A FUNERAL PROCESSION TO HELP A GRIEVING FAMILY FIND THEIR WAY TO REST, ALBERT WAS THERE. HE WAS A PROUD MEMBER OF THE COMBINED LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSOCIATION OF TEXAS, AND THE PEACE OFFICER'S ASSOCIATION, AND WHERE HE WAS REVERED BY FELLOW OFFICERS, ADMIRED BY HIS COMMUNITY, AND DEEPLY RESPECTED BY THOSE WHO KNEW HIS HEART. BECAUSE BEHIND THE UNIFORM WAS A GENTLE SOUL WHO WOULD GIVE YOU THE SHIRT OFF HIS BACK.

THE LAST DOLLAR IN HIS POCKET AND EVERY OUNCE- HIS STRENGTH IF YOU NEEDED IT.

HE LIVED WITH PURPOSE, WITH COMPASSION, AND LOVED WITHOUT LIMITS.

A LOVING AND CARING SON, HUSBAND, FATHER, BROTHER, GRANDFATHER, UNCLE AND FRIEND WHO WILL BE DEARLY MISSED BY ALL LOVED ONES. HE LEAVES BEHIND TO CHERISH HIS MEMORIES HIS WIFE OF 19 YEARS, SONIA STOUT, HIS CHILDREN ALBERT STOUT, AND EMLET. ALYSSA STOUT AND BIANCA STOUT.

HIS MOTHER, HIS SIBLINGS, T.J. , J.D. , ADRIAN.

HE WAS ALSO MOVED AND ADORED BY HIS PRECIOUS GRANDCHILDREN, AS WELL AS HE A FAITHFUL UNCLE AND MENTOR TO HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN BLUE, AND HIS MEMBERS OF HIS TEAM, A LOYAL FRIEND AND A SECOND FATHER TO MANY. ALWAYS PUTTING OTHERS BEFORE HIMSELF.

OUR CONDOLENCES GO OUT TO THE STOUT FAMILY.

>> I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO THAT, I KNEW HIM AS SERGEANT STOUT. THAT'S WHEN I FIRST MET HIM WHEN I WAS WORKING WITH THE STATE, GOSH, ALMOST 25 YEARS AGO. YOU KNOW, SOME IN LAW ENFORCEMENT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN JUST TELL, DON'T MESS WITH HIM. BUT HE WAS ALWAYS JUST SAY A FRIENDLY, GENTLE SOUL. I'M SURE HE DID WHAT HE HAD TO DO TO PROTECT HIMSELF AND OTHERS, BUT HE WAS NOT OF THE MINDSET THAT HE WAS SOMEONE TO TRY TO INTIMIDATE YOU.

HE WAS JUST VERY FRIENDLY AND WELCOMING, AND ONE OF MY FIRST MEMORIES OF HIM WAS GOING LITERALLY INTO A DRUG HOUSEHOUSE THEY CALLED ME, I WAS AN INVESTIGATOR WITH THE STATE AT THE TIME.

I WALKED IN, AND THERE HE WAS ALL WEARING TACTICAL GEAR.

I WALK IN WITH NOTHING BUT A CLIP BOARD AND A LAPTOP.

BUT SEEING HIM THERE AND OTHER CALLS THAT I WENT ON AND THEN OVER THE YEARS, AND AS COMMISSIONER, STILL RUNNING INTO HIM IN EVERY COMMUNITY EVENT. HE WAS ALWAYS OUT THERE PROVIDING SECURITY AND JUST BEING A FRIENDLY FACE FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND SO I WANTED TO SHARE A QUOTE FROM HIS POLICE CHIEF THERE IN

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AND I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH THAT WAS TO ME SERGEANT STOUT, I'M GLAD HE GOT HIS PROMOTION TO LIEUTENANT, BUT THAT WAS JUST THE MAN AND OFFICER HE WAS.

SO MY CONLOW DOLENCES TO HIM AND HIS FAMILY AND THOSE IN BLUE.

>> AMEN.

>> IF THERE ARE NO OTHERS OR NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THEY HAVEN'T COME IN HERE AND TOLD US WE DIDN'T SOMETHING ELSE DIFFERENTLY OR WRONG,

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.