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[1. In recognition of Robstown Early College High School's El Mariachi Sol Rojo "Excellent Rating" at the Texas UIL State Mariachi Festival 2025.]

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ALL ARE THERE. MY CAMPAIGN SIGNS, WHEN A RUN FOR OFFICE ARE RED AND WHITE. I COULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN THIS BETTER BUT NO, CONGRATULATIONS . CONTINUE YOUR SUCCESS . WE ARE EXCITED TO HEAR YOU HAVE SO MANY UNDERCLASSMEN THAT WILL CONTINUE THIS TRADITION AND BEST OF LUCK TO THE SENIORS. WILL BE MOVING ON, HOPEFULLY, TO THE NEXT LEVEL. THANK YOU.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT OUR OFFICE WAS TOTALLY KEPT IN THE LOOP AND APPRISED OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU DID, EVERY COMPETITION YOU WENT TO HIM EVERY OUT-OF-TOWN TRIP. WE WERE WITH YOU ALL THE WAY. WE WERE KEPT IN THE LOOP AND PRAYED OVER IT AND WE COULDN'T BE MORE PROUD OF EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU AND HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE WITH THIS IN ANYTHING THAT YOU DO IN LIFE. THESE ARE THE STUDENTS THAT STEP THE GREAT THINGS IN LIFE. WE WISH YOU ALL THE VERY BEST AND I'M SO HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE IN OUR COURTROOM THIS MORNING. WE HAVE A RESOLUTION , I KNOW WE TOOK SOME PICTURES WITH SOME PEOPLE DOWNSTAIRS BUT WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO COME UP HERE AND GET A PHOTO WITH THE COURT AS WELL, IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD, PLEASE.

GOOD MAN OUT THERE. HE'S A GOOD GUY. CONGRATULATIONS. GOOD JOB.

[2. Resolution in recognition of John E. Valls for his years of service and contribution to the Nueces County Hospital District Board of Managers.]

>> NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER TWO, RESOLUTION AND RECOGNITION OF JOHN FOR HIS YEARS OF SERVICE AND CONTRIBUTION TO THE NUECES COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD OF REGENTS. MS. SANDRA IS GOING

TO READ THAT FOR US. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, THIS RESOLUTION COMMISSIONERS COURT RESOLUTION

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IN RECOGNITION OF JOHN BALLS WERE AS COMMISSIONERS COURT IS PLEASED TO RECOGNIZE JOHN EVILS FOR HIS 10 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE AND CONTRIBUTION TO THE OASIS COUNTY HOSPITAL BOARD OF MANAGERS AND WHEREAS JOHN WAS FIRST APPOINTED TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD IN DECEMBER 2014 AND CONTINUED HIS SERVICE UNTIL DECEMBER 2025 , SERVING AS BOARD CHAIR FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS AND WITH COMMITTED TO HELPING THE MOST VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY AND WHEREAS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD, JOHN UPHELD THE MISSION OF THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD AND HIS VISION AS A PUBLIC LOCAL PUBLIC ENTITY TO PROVIDE HIGH-QUALITY HEALTHCARE TO THE COUNTIES -- PROGRAM PROVIDING HEALTHCARE SERVICES FOR QUALIFIED LOW INCOME AND LOW RESOURCE COUNTY RESIDENTS. AND WHEREAS DURING HIS TENURE , MANY MILESTONES WERE ACHIEVED BUT MOST NOTABLY WAS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE HECTOR P GARCIA MEMORIAL FAMILY HEALTH CENTER ALONG WITH THE DEMOLITION OF THE FORMER MEMORIAL MEDICAL CENTER. PASSING LEGISLATURE TO THE BENEFIT OF THE NUECES COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND COMMISSIONING A CONFERENCE OF BEHAVIOR HEALTH COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSISTANT AND WHEREAS JOHN HAS MADE A POSITIVE DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF COUNTLESS NUECES COUNTY RESIDENTS , ESPECIALLY IN HELPING THE INDIGENT POPULATION AND ARE COMMUNITY WITH ACCESS TO QUALIFYING HEALTHCARE , AND NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT HEREBY WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS OUR WHOLE HEART THANKS AND DEEP APPRECIATION TO JOHN FOR HIS LEADERSHIP, SERVICE, AND TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND HIS YEARS OF SERVICE. DULY ADOPTED BY VOTE OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF NUECES COUNTY, TEXAS ON THE 19TH DAY OF MARCH, 2025. THANK YOU.

>> YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION? >> WITH EMOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY -- ANY OPPOSED, THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AND I BELIEVE HE HAS A RECOGNITION AS WELL.

>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS COME OUR BOARD CHAIRMAN AND IF IT'S OKAY, SHE WOULD LIKE TO ADD A PRESENTATION OF OUR

SERVICE PLAQUE TO MR. VALLS . >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS . IT IS WITH GREAT HONOR AND DEEP APPRECIATION THAT I PRESENT THE SERVICE PLAQUE TO JOHN RECOGNIZING HIS SERVICE ON THE COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD OF MANAGERS FROM 2014 TO 2024 THROUGHOUT THIS DECADE OF MEMBERSHIP AND LEADERSHIP JOHN HAS MADE AN IMPACT ON THE LIVES OF THE CITIZENS AND POPULATION OF NUECES COUNTY. HAS UNWAVERING COMMIT TO IMPROVE THE HEALTH, WELL-BEING AND DIGNITY OF ALL THOSE IN NEED HAS SHAPED THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH TIRELESS ADVOCACY AND STRATEGIC OVERSIGHT, JOHN HAS HELPED TO ENSURE THE VITAL SERVICES WERE PROVIDED, RESOURCES ALLOCATED AND OPPORTUNITIES CREATED FOR THOSE WHO NEEDED IT THE MOST BECAUSE DEDICATION HAS ENHANCED THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR COUNTLESS INDIVIDUALS AS I PRESENT THIS PLAQUE ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF MANAGERS, THE BOARD EXPRESSES ITS GRATITUDE FOR JOHN'S CONTRIBUTIONS DURING THIS DEDICATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I'M GREATLY HONORED TO PRESENT THIS PLAQUE TO MY FRIEND FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AND SERVICE.

THAT 10 YEARS WENT BY LIKE THAT. IT WAS SUCH AN HONOR TO SERVE ON THE DISTRICT BOARD . I LEARNED SO MUCH FROM -- HE IS AN ENCYCLOPEDIA , A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE AND GOT TO WORK WITH MR. DOMINGUEZ AND THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE RESPONSE SYSTEM IS STRONG. IN PART BECAUSE OF THE LEADERSHIP AND HIS LEADERSHIP AND THAT OF THE BOARD. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL AND I WANT TO THANK MY FORMER BOARD MEMBER, JOHN MARTINEZ WHO IS HERE. WE GO WAY BACK AND JOHN IS A FORMER BOARD CHAIR ., FORMER BOARD CHAIR. ONE DAY YOU WILL BE A PART OF THE HAS-BEEN CLUB, SO , THANK YOU, JUDGE. I APPRECIATED. THANK YOU,

KINDLY. >> DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO SAY? YOU WENT BACK THERE, I THOUGHT IT WAS FOR A

REASON OR SOMETHING. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY A FEW

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WORDS IF YOU DON'T MIND. ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND I THINK I SPEAK FOR MOST OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT HERE AND IF I DON'T COME UP MY BED, BUT I THINK I DO. I'M UP HERE TO REPRESENT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND I WANT TO TELL YOU, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE 10 YEARS. I KNOW YOU HAVE DONE A LOT OF HOURS AND I HAVE SEEN YOU AND BEEN WITH YOU. THE BOARD IS WHAT IT IS THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF YOU. YOU HAVE BROUGHT OWNERSHIPS IN AND WE WORKED CLOSED -- CLOSE. JOHN HAS ALWAYS LOOKED UP TO YOU AND SAID, LET'S TALK TO JOHN AND SEE WHAT HE SAYS . AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU AN AWARD AND SOMEBODY SAID A WHAT PAPER -- THIS IS THE SMALLEST I COULD FIND. I THINK IT'S BIGGER THAN A PAPERWEIGHT, BUT IT SAYS APPRECIATION AWARD, JOHN FOR YOUR EDUCATION AND COMMITTED SERVICES TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND NUECES COUNTY, 2025.

WAS ALWAYS A DELIGHT WORKING WITH YOU ESPECIALLY WHEN WE -- OR YOU ESTABLISHED THAT MOBILE WHICH SERVICED THE AREA AND THE DISTRICT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP FUND PART OF THAT PROGRAM AND I KNOW IT'S THRIVING TODAY BUT I ALWAYS ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU AND EVERY MEMBER OF THE COURT. THANK YOU, KINDLY. I

APPRECIATE IT. >> WILL HAVE THIS FOR YOU FROM THE COURT AS WELL.

>> THAT IS STILL THREE OF US THAT WE CAN CONTINUE. OKAY, --.

>> BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A BRIEF MOMENT. I HAVE BEEN HERE -- I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ARE DOING THIS NOW BUT IN THE FUTURE, TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T MISS ANYONE WHO SERVES ON THE BOARD OR COMMITTEE FOR US, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE CAN BRING IT BACK LATER AS AN OFFICIAL ACTION BY THE COURT , THAT WOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF POLICY IN PLACE WHERE ANYBODY WHO SERVES ON ANY BOARD OR COMMISSION REPRESENTS THE COUNTY THAT WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION THAT GETS SENT TO THEM TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T MISS

ANYONE. >> I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

>> MY GOOD FRIEND ON THE CITY COUNCIL USED TO MAKE FUN OF ME ALL THE TIME BECAUSE I WOULD SAY, AT THE COUNTY WE DID IT THIS WAY AND I SENT HIM AN EMAIL THE OTHER DAY AND TOLD HIM, AT LEAST THREE TIMES I SAID, AT THE CITY WE DO IT THIS WAY. BUT I KNOW THE CITY IS VERY JUDICIOUS ABOUT THAT AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER CHESNEY SERVED ON THE COUNCIL AS WELL AND PROBABLY AWARE OF THAT. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T

SKIP SOMEONE ACCIDENTALLY. >> THAT COULD EASILY HAPPEN FOR

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SURE. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT PLAN MOVING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE TO DO CERTIFICATES FOR ALL OF OUR BOARDS .

>> COULD WE BRING BACK SOMETHING IN THE FORM OF OUR POLICY THAT SAYS CERTIFICATES ONLY AND NOT RESOLUTIONS BECAUSE I'M AFRAID WE WILL SET A PRECEDENT WHERE WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WE CAN RECOGNIZE AND TO SINGLE PEOPLE OUT LIKE THAT IS REALLY DIFFICULT BECAUSE WE HAD A FORMER BOARD CHAIR JOHN MARTINEZ HERE AND WE DIDN'T DO RESOLUTION FOR HIM . I THINK SINGLING OUT PEOPLE AND NOT -- AND LEAVING OTHERS OUT IS NOT WHAT WE INTEND TO DO SO I THINK OR COMMISSIONER, THAT IS A GREAT SUGGESTION TO DO IT THAT WAY AND COME BACK AND SAY, CERTIFICATES ONLY AND NO RESOLUTIONS. MAYBE YOU CAN PUT SOMETHING ON TO GIVE US SOME LANGUAGE THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO CONSIDER FOR OUR

NEXT ONE. >> IT REALLY DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE THE CITY, THE MAYOR JUST SIGNS IT.

>> I DON'T CARE HOW IT IS DONE.

>> SIGN IT ON OUR BEHALF AND TAKE CARE OF IT THAT WAY. WE NEED TO MAKE ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN THAT WE DON'T MISS SOMEONE.

>> USING OUR PHRASE, THE WAY THEY DO IT AT THE CITY, THEY DO THE RESOLUTIONS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING. WE HAVE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS BEFORE SO I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER THAT AGAIN IN ADDITION TO THE POLICY CHATO WHERE WE SET RESOLUTIONS AT 8:30 AND THAT WAY WE CAN , EVERYBODY CAN LOAD THOSE UP HOWEVER THEY WANT TO AND WE CAN OUR BUSINESS PROBABLY AT 9:00. THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD THING TO REVISIT AGAIN WHEN WE BRING THAT BACK AT OUR NEXT MEETING. IF YOU NEED ONE OF US TO PUT THAT ON, WE CAN BUT I AGREE WITH THIS. CAN YOU PUT IT ON FOR SOMETHING IN THE NEXT

MEETING? >> COMMISSIONER DID YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS AS AN EDIT TO THE COURT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES?

>> YEAH, TO BE CONSISTENT SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WE ARE NOT SINGLING OUT ANYBODY AND NOT LEAVING ANYBODY OUT. WHY DID WE NOT RECOGNIZE HIM? WE ARE GETTING DOWN A PATH WHERE WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE EVERYBODY EQUALLY AND SAY THANKS FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. NOBODY IS MORE OR LESS IMPORTANT THAN ANYBODY ELSE IS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PUSLEY. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD

[F. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]

IDEA. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> MOVING ON TO ITEM F, PUBLIC COMMENT WE HAVE SUZANNE GALLAGHER SIGNED UP FIRST JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND, WE CANNOT COMMENT OR TALK DURING YOUR COMMENT. YOU HAVE THREE

MINUTES . >> GOOD MORNING , JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS SUZANNE GALLAGHER, I LIVE IN THE COUNTY JUST OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS AROUND CAL ISLAND. I HATE THAT COMMISSIONER MAREZ STEPPED OUT BECAUSE IT HAS MORE TO DO WITH COMMISSIONER PUSLEY AND COMMISSIONER MAREZ. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE AMMONIA PLANT AND I KNOW I'M REPRESENTING MY GROUP -- I'M A PART OF THIS GROUP, CONCERNED CITIZENS . WE ARE LIKE A DOG WITH A BONE THAT WON'T LET IT GO . IT WAS A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE THAT -- STOOD IN THIS COURTROOM AND THEY WERE AT THE ISD AND TOWNHALL AND THEY SAID A LOT OF THINGS . THEY TALK A LOT ABOUT TRANSPARENCY . WE HAVE SEEN NO TRANSPARENCY. I PERSONALLY HAVE CALLED -- I DON'T THINK THERE IS AN OFFICE. THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN ANSWER PHONE TO MEET BUT I HAVE CALLED MULTIPLE TIMES TO -- AS A CITIZEN AND THEY WANTED TO STAY IN CONTACT AND KEEP US INFORMED.

I HAVE NEVER HAD A LIVE PERSON PICK UP THE PHONE OR A CALLBACK OR ANYTHING. MEMBERS OF OUR GROUP HAVE SENT EMAILS AND HAVE HAD NO RESPONSES. I KNOW WE ARE NOT FRIENDLY TOWARD THEM AND I KNOW, NOBODY WANTS TO RESPOND TO SOMEBODY THAT IS GOING TO CALL THEM OUT AND DOESN'T LIKE THEM. I GET THAT. BUT THAT IS WHAT THEY SAID. THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS COMMENTS ARE CLOSED OR COMMENTS ARE NOT RESPONDED TO. WE HAVE NO REASON TO THINK WE WILL BE APPRISED WHEN THEY COME TO YOU OR ROB'S TOWN ISD FOR THE TAX ABATEMENT. THEY SAID LAST YEAR THAT WE WOULD BE GETTING A LOCAL REPRESENTATIVE THAT COULD KEEP US INFORMED AND WORK WITH US , THE COMMUNITY, ON OUR CONCERNS. WERE IS THE LOCAL REPRESENTATIVE? THEY SAID THERE WOULD BE BUYOUT OFFERS TO MAKE THE RESIDENCE WHOLE THAT LIVE NEAR THEIR. WHERE ARE THE BUYOUT OFFERS? MEMBERS OF OUR GROUP LIVED DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE SITE , LIKE LITERALLY I COULD THROW A BASEBALL FROM THEIR FRONT YARD TO THE SITE. NO BUYOUT OFFERS YET. THEY SAID THAT TOWNHALL WOULD BE THE FIRST OF MANY , THAT THERE WOULD BE MULTIPLE TOWNHALL'S. IT HAS BEEN ONE YEAR. WHERE ARE THE

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TOWNHALL'S? THEY SAID WE WOULD BE GETTING DETAILS ON THE PIPELINE. WE STILL DON'T KNOW IF THESE ARE SUPPOSEDLY THE OUR EXISTING AND THEN SOMETIMES KNOW THEY ARE NOT. WE CAN'T GET ANY DETAILS . THAT CONCERNS EVERYONE THAT IS OUT HERE BECAUSE WHOSE PROPERTY AND WHOSE HOMES ARE THOSE PIPELINES CARRYING DANGEROUS VOLATILE CHEMICAL ALL THE WAY TO THE PORT FROM OUT WHERE WE LIVE. WHOSE PROPERTIES ARE THOSE GOING THROUGH? WHAT CITIZENS ARE THOSE NEAR? WE NEED TO KNOW THAT. WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THEY HAVE CHANGED THEIR NAME TWICE AND NOW THEY ARE NO LONGER CLAIMING TO BE GREEN. THEY LET GO OF THE FICTIONAL RENEWABLE ENERGY FROM WEST TEXAS AS OF --. WE KNOW WE STILL DON'T HAVE WATER FOR THEM . WE KNOW THAT EVERYBODY IS EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW WELLS OUT .0 73 AND OTHERS ON THE WAY BUT WE HARDLY BELIEVE IF WE CAN GET A COUPLE MILLION GALLONS OF WATER A DAY WE SHOULD JUST HAND IT OFF TO THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT FROM HERE THAT DO NOT CARE ABOUT US AND THEIR PRODUCT AND PROFITS WILL NOT STAY IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. JESSICA VALDES? >> GOOD MORNING. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME COMING HERE. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M DOING AND FOR THAT I ASK FOR FORGIVENESS. I HAD A LOT TO SAY . IT IS IN MY PHONE . I WANTED TO PRINT OUT PICTURES AND GIVE IT TO ALL OF YOU. MY NAME IS JESSICA VALDES AND I LIVE IN THE -- AREA. WERE CALLED SQUATTERS BUT YET WE ARE RAISING FAMILIES . OUR STREETS ARE UNLIT AND UNSAFE FOR OUR CHILDREN . OUR CHILDREN WAIT FOR THE BUSES FROM 6:30 IN THE MORNING TILL 6:50 IN THE DARK.

THERE IS A COMPANY THAT STARTED WHICH I JUST BARELY -- I'M ALWAYS WORKING. I WORK A 12 HOUR SHIFT. I'M A SINGLE PARENT. WE ARE -- THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS MADE OF THREE STREETS . IT'S DRIVE AND THERE IS TWO BRANCHES WERE I LIVE ON A DEAD-END NEXT TO A HOUSE THAT IS ALMOST FALLING AND I WAS PROMISED IT WAS GOING TO BE REMOVED LIKE FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO. IT NEVER HAPPENED. WE JUST WANT, MAYBE SOME SPEED BUMPS , MAYBE SPEED REDUCTION.

THIS PLANT -- I DON'T KNOW , GAS PLACE. THERE IS NOT EVEN A NAME FOR IT . THERE IS 18 WHEELERS GOING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NOW WHEN WE ARE ALWAYS ASKING TO GET OUR STREETS FIXED AND WE GET THEM PATCHED UP AS IS. IT SMELLS LIKE GAS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I HAD TO GO FIND OUT WHO THIS PERSON WAS . I ASKED TO SPEAK TO A MANAGER OR SOMEBODY IN CHARGE, A GENTLEMAN CAME AND GAVE ME HIS NAME AND I TOLD HIM, PLEASE LET UP IN THE CORNER, THERE'S A LITTLE GIRL WAITING FOR THE BUS AND IT IS DARK. CAN YOU PLEASE BE MINDFUL AND TELL YOUR WORKERS, TELL SOMEBODY TO SLOW DOWN, PLEASE AND THANK YOU. HE SENT AN EMAIL.

AFTER THIS, YOU SEE ME DRESSED LIKE THIS, I'M GOING TO A FUNERAL BECAUSE MY COUSIN WAS RUN OVER ON 65 AND WE WOULD LIKE ALSO SOME MORE LIGHTING DOWN 65. WE WOULD LIKE THE SPEED REDUCTION FROM SANTA MARIA TO WHERE WE ARE , A SPEED REDUCTION. WHY NOT? I COME DOWN 65 , I TRAVEL, I WORKED ON DRISCOLL AND THE CREEK HAS MORE LIGHTING THAN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT IS SHAMEFUL. THERE IS FAMILIES THAT LIVE THERE . IT IS A COMMUNITY. WE PAY TAXES, ALSO. WE JUST WANT TO BE HEARD BECAUSE WE ARE NEVER HEARD. I HAVE BEEN LIVING THERE SINCE 1995 AND WE ARE THE SQUATTERS OVER THE SKIRTS AND IT IS NOT FAIR. IT REALLY ISN'T. IT ISN'T FAIR THAT I HAVE TO WAIT THIS LONG TO SPEAK BECAUSE MY COUSIN GOT KILLED ON 665. I JUST WISH THERE WAS A CHANGE , MORE LIGHTING, SPEED REDUCTIONS, SPEED BUMPS FOR OUR CHILDREN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP? THERE BEING NONE -- . I

[1. Discuss and consider update on status of county boards and commissions, and all related matters.]

WOULD LIKE TO PULL UP THREE A 1 ON THE BOARD UPDATES BEFORE WE GO TO THE BOARD APPOINTMENTS. THE COURT HAD ASKED FOR AN UPDATE AND TARA DID SOME RESEARCH ON THIS .

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>> CAN YOU GET THE LADIES NUMBER? I WOULD LIKE TO CALL HER AND EXPLAIN A FEW THINGS TO HER.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >>

>> IT'S A TXDOT? >> I DON'T MIND.

>> YES, ABSOLUTELY. THE COURT INSTRUCTED TARA TO UPDATE THE COUNTY BOARDS AND GIVE US A LIST OF ACTIVE, INACTIVE, WHETHER THEY WERE MEETING OR WHATEVER. I THINK SHE HAS DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH . THERE ARE SEVERAL IN HERE, IF YOU LOOK IN YOUR PACKETS ON THREE A 1, THE HIGHLIGHTS ARE INACTIVE. THERE IS ONE OF THE END THAT WE HAVE ALREADY DISSOLVED THAT SHE SAID THIS MORNING ON THE AND CDC THAT THE COURT ALREADY DID AWAY WITH

. THERE ARE -- >> THERE ARE ADDITIONAL BOARDS.

THEY ARE NOT MEETING BUT THE COURT HAS NOT -- I DID NOT WANT TO MARK THEM AS INACTIVE WITHOUT THE BOARD TAKING ACTION OR

DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT --. >> IT'S THE FIRST ONE. WE MOVED IT UP. WE WANT TO LOOK AT THIS BEFORE THE BOARD APPOINTMENTS.

THERE WAS ANOTHER ISSUE WITH THE BOARD BUT I THINK YOU SPOKE TO THE COMMISSIONER ABOUT IT. DID YOU EVER GET A CHANCE TO MEET

WITH HIM? >> YES.

>> HANG ON. CAN I ASK , YOU BROUGHT IT UP ABOUT THE AND CDC.

I KNOW WE DIDN'T APPOINT BUT DID WE EVER TAKE ACTION?

>> WE CLOSE . WE VOTED TO CLOSE. >> I KNOW WE TOOK ONE STEP TO NOT REAPPOINT AT ALL. I THOUGHT THAT WAS --.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT MEETING THAT WE VOTED TO DISBAND.

>> I WILL GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK.

>> NCDC . >> DO YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH YOUR LIST AND TALK ABOUT EACH ONE THAT YOU CHECKED ON INDIVIDUALLY , IF YOU WANT TO VERY QUICKLY?

>> YES, ABSOLUTELY. WE GOT THE FIRST ONE, AIR QUALITY , THAT'S A 501(C)(3) NOW . AND HID, THAT IS ACTIVE.

>> WHEN YOU ARE GOING THROUGH THEM CAN WE -- OF THIS IS INACTIVE, CAN WE MAKE MOTIONS AS WE GO TO DISBAND THESE BOARDS?

>> I THOUGHT WE WOULD GRAB THE ONES THAT ARE INACTIVE TO CHECK TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THERE IS ONE OR THAT HAS BEEN AN ACTIVE THAT WE HAVE HAD A HARD TIME FOR PEOPLE TO SERVE ON THAT WE ARE REQUIRED BECAUSE OF THE LOT TO KEEP THROUGHOUT UNTIL NEXT YEAR.

>> I WAS JUST THINKING IF THEY ARE INACTIVE AND IT IS NOT THAT BOARD, CAN WE VOTE TO DO AWAY WITH?

>> IT'S A POTENTIAL DISSOLUTION OF THESE THINGS, IT'S NOTICES TO CONSIDER US DISCUSSING CONSIDERING UPDATES .

>> THAT'S WHAT WE PUT IT ON FOR. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT GOT NOTICED BUT WE PUT IT ON AND PUSHED THINGS BACK TO PUT THIS ON FOR THE VERY REASON OF DOING THIS. WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE

LAST MEETING. >> THIS IS ALL RELATED MATTERS.

>> SORRY. I THINK IT IS GERMANE WHEN YOU PUT ALL RELATED

MATTERS. >> IF THERE IS A COMPLAINT ABOUT

IT, YOU CAN BRING IT BACK. >> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THE AIR-QUALITY SERVICE MONITORING COMMITTEE -- WHAT'S THE RIGHT WORD? BE DISSOLVED . GOOD WORD. THE AIR-QUALITY SERVICES MONITORING COMMITTEE BE DISSOLVED AND TAKEN OFF OF THE

BOARD MAIN LIST. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, WE WOULD ALSO SEND A LETTER. ARE THERE ANY PEOPLE ASSIGNED TO THIS OR NOT MEETING ANYWAYS. WE WILL SEND A LETTER TO ANYONE WE HAVE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> I HAVE A COMMENT. BEFORE WE VOTE, JUST AS A POINT OF NOTE, SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T THINK WE ARE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT AIR-QUALITY, THERE IS A VERY ACTIVE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO MEET

ON A REGULAR BASIS . >> I SERVE ON THAT AS WELL.

>> I USED YOU -- TO . I ADDRESSED THESE KIND OF ISSUES, SO I THINK THIS BOARD IS REALLY A DUPLICATION OF THAT.

>> GOOD POINT. >> I THINK IT WAS AN EVOLUTION

OF THAT. >> WE ARE NOT DOING THIS LIGHTHEARTEDLY. WE ARE DOING IT BECAUSE IT IS DUPLICATION OR IT HASN'T BEEN ACTIVE, BUT THAT IS A GREAT COMMENT, COMMISSIONER.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. NOW WE WILL DO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AND HE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES WITH

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COMMISSIONER MAREZ OUT OF THE ROOM.

>> AND HID IS AN ACTIVE BOARD, THE CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD ON HEALTH AND WELFARE IS NOT ACTIVE AND IT WAS PART OF AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, PART OF THE CITY COUNTY HEALTH DISTRICT AGREEMENT . THE CITY'S PORTION OF IT THAT IS ON THEIR SUNSET REVEAL -- REVIEW LIST. IS MY UNDERSTANDING THE CITY IS LOOKING TO GET RID OF -- IT WAS MADE UP HALF CITY HALF COUNTY THAT IT HAD NOT BEEN

MEETING IN THE LAST --. >> YOU COULD PROBABLY GET WITH

THE CITY. >> LEICESTER CONTINGENCY MOTION SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT GO THROUGH THE CRACKS. CONTINGENT UPON -- MY MOTION WOULD BE TO DISSOLVE THIS INACTIVE BOARD CONTINGENT UPON THE CITIES DOING THE SAME THING BECAUSE THERE IS NO POINT IN US APPOINTING PEOPLE OF THE CITY IS GOING TO DISSOLVE IT. THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO BRING THIS BACK AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ON THERE ANYWAY.

>> I WILL SECOND THAT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE . EDDIE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. THE CITY IS REVIEWING IT

TO CANCEL . >> WE ARE JUST DOING IT IN

ADVANCE. >> OVER THE PAGE.

>> COASTAL BEND COUNCIL GOVERNMENT, THAT IS INACTIVE.

NEXT COASTAL BEND FINANCE CORPORATION BUT NOT AN ACTIVE BOARD . WE ARE THE PRINCIPAL OFFICE FOR THE CORPORATION .

THAT MIGHT BE TRICKY AND DISSOLVING.

>> WE ARE THE FIVE ACTIVE MEMBERS OF THAT ONE.

>> NO, THAT IS THE COUNTY HOUSING FINANCE. THIS IS THE --

YES. YES, AND IT INVOLVES --. >> IT'S A DUPLICATE. IF YOU GO

BACK TO THE OTHER ONE. >> THERE IS A COUNTY ONE. THIS ONE INVOLVED OTHER COUNTIES, DO BALL, BROOKS COUNTY AND --.

>> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? >> WHAT IS THE TRICKY PART IF NOBODY IS ON IT. I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THE RESEARCH ON THIS BECAUSE WHAT'S THE TRICKY PART, IF WE ARE NOT USING IT, HAS NOT BEEN USED IN YEARS, WE DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT. WE WOULD HAVE TO DISSOLVE -- IT WOULD BE A LEGAL DISSOLVING. I WOULD SAY , SAME MOTION, WE DISSOLVE THIS BOARD CONTINGENT UPON THE COUNTY ATTORNEY DOING ALL THE LEGAL WORK NECESSARY TO APPROPRIATELY

DISSOLVE IT . >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE . ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES

UNANIMOUSLY . GO AHEAD. >> COASTAL BEND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD IS ACTIVE. INTERGOVERNMENTAL COMMITTEE ON DRUG AND ALCOHOL ABUSE , THAT IS NOT AN ACTIVE BOARD . YOU GUYS

WANT TO --. >> MOTION TO DISSOLVE.

>>'S SECOND. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THE LOSS CONTROL COMMITTEE , THAT HAS NOT BEEN AN ACTIVE COMMITTEE FOR THE LAST YEAR . IT HAD BEEN -- THERE IS TRAININGS. IT'S BASICALLY RISK MANAGEMENT TRAINING FOR THE COUNTY BUT THEY DO , THE TRAININGS ARE OFFERED NOW RATHER THAN MEETINGS , THE TRAININGS ARE OFFERED THROUGH WORKDAY

>> WHEN IT WAS ACTIVE HUNDRED YEARS AGO, WHAT DID THEY DO AND

WHO WAS ON IT? >> IT'S BASICALLY ONE MEMBER FROM EVERY DEPARTMENT OR ONE PERSON FROM EVERY DEPARTMENT. IT WAS LED BY REBECCA RAMIREZ FROM RISK MANAGEMENT AND THEY WOULD BASICALLY HAVE A SAFETY TRAINING ONCE A MONTH.

>> WE CAN DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING A COMMITTEE FOR IT.

>> MOTION TO DISSOLVE. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALTHOUGH MY POINT WOULD BE I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE THOSE MEETINGS, OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS SHOULD BE DOING THIS ANYWAY WITHOUT A COMMITTEE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

>> AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE -- BOARD. THAT HAS BEEN STARTED

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AGAIN . THEY WERE HAVING TROUBLE MEETING AND HAVING A QUORUM FOR

A WHILE . >> DIDN'T WE CHANGE THAT ONE OR

IT COULD BE AT-LARGE NOW? >> THEY ARE STARTING TO HAVE

MEETINGS. >> WE NEED TO REFLECT THAT IN OUR DOCUMENTATION , ALL MEMBERS NOW ARE ELECTED AT LARGE.

>> YES, SIR. NEXT WE HAVE ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY . THAT IS ACTIVE BAIL BOND BOARD IS ACTIVE. BEACH MANAGEMENT IS ACTIVE. BISHOP DRISCOLL DISTRICT NUMBER THREE IS ACTIVE. THEY

MEET ONCE A YEAR. >> WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THAT ONE? I THOUGHT WHEN WE HAD THE LAST DISCUSSION, THE ONLY DRAINAGE DISTRICT WE SHOWED WAS DRAINAGE DISTRICT TWO THAT WAS ACTIVE IN THE COUNTY. AND THREE WAS TECHNICALLY STILL TOGETHER BUT IT'S STRANGE BECAUSE ONE IS ELECTED AND THE OTHER IS

APPOINTED BY US. >> YES. WE NEED TO GET TO

APPOINTING THERE. >> THEY HAVE AN ELECTED BOARD?

>> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT REPRESENTS --.

>> THEY NEED TO BE APPOINTED. >> THE ONE YOU HAD THE MEETING WITH, THE COMMISSIONER THAT HAS -- WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST TELL

HIM WHAT YOU FOUND. >> YES, THEY HAVE NOT COME BACK.

THEY WERE LESS APPOINTED -- THEY WERE LAST APPOINTED JANUARY OF 1999 . THEY HAVE NOT COME BACK TO COURT.

>> WE HAVE NOT REAPPOINTED. >> THEY ARE STILL COLLECTING

TAXES? >> YES. SO WE NEED TO BRING THEM TO COURT. WE NEED TO OPEN FOR APPLICATIONS.

>> I THINK WE NEED TO PULL THIS ONE ASIDE AND DO MORE RESEARCH BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE DOING THIS.

>> THIS ONE IS TO COME BACK AFTER YOU MET WITH THE COMMISSIONER AND THEY PROBABLY GO OUT THERE AND MEET WITH THEM

AS WELL. >> IF SOMEBODY IS COMING, THEY MAY HAVE THE RIGHT TO COLLECT TAX. IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY ACTUALLY ARE. THAT'S ANOTHER THING. THAT'S A BIG RED FLAG.

MY GOSH, WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE? THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS EXERCISE, AND I'M GLAD WE ARE DOING IT AGAIN, THAT WANTS TO BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE ONLY ONE IN MY WORLD WAS DRAINAGE DISTRICT TWO AND THEN SOMEBODY BUT MAYBE IT WAS YOU WHO MENTIONED, WE HAVE DISTRICT THREE BUT THEY ARE APPOINTED AND THEY REPRESENT COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ , BISHOP AND DRISCOLL ? THAT'S RIGHT. WE SWITCHED AROUND. SO, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO LEARN MORE. I AGREE, WE NEED TO HAVE MORE.

>> THEY ARE THE ONES THAT WORK IN THE AREA AND THEY WORKED IN THE BISHOP AREA BUT THEY HAVE BEEN ACTIVE BUT NOT THAT ACTIVE.

SO, WE DO NEED TO REVISIT TO SEE WHO IS THERE AND WHO IS NOT THERE. I UNDERSTAND THEY MAKE SOME CHANGES. I DON'T KNOW HOW

THEY DID THAT. >> MAYBE HAVE A MOTION TO BRING THIS ONE BACK FOR REPRESENTATION OF SOME SORT?

>> YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AFTER THEY MEET. DO YOU HAVE

SOMETHING, LISA? >> I CHECKED THAT TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR'S WEBSITE AND THERE IS A TAX RATE THAT HAS BEEN SET FOR BOTH DRAINAGE DISTRICT TWO AND THREE.

>> NUMBER TWO IS --. >> I REVIEWED THE NUECES COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR'S WEBSITE JUST NOW , BOTH DRAINAGE DISTRICT NUMBER TWO AND THREE ARE COLLECTING A TAX RATE FOR

THE 2024 TAX YEAR. >> WE NEED THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO LOOK AT THIS AS WELL BECAUSE WE READ THE STATUTE WHEN TARA BROUGHT IT IN AND IT JUST SAYS WE APPOINT INITIALLY, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO US TO ASK TO BE ELECTED SO, WE APPOINTED THEM AND THEY HAVEN'T ASKED TO BE ELECTED, SO THEY WOULD -- THE

ONES ON THREE --. >> AS A TEST OF THE HOLDOVER

CONCEPT. >> EXACTLY. EDWARD HAS SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS AS WELL. IT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT

BACK AS A SEPARATE ITEM. >> WE ARE LOOKING AT COUNTY ROAD 18 AND 75 FOR A PROJECT THAT -- . IT TURNS OUT THEY HAD ALREADY DONE IT. THERE IS THIS HUGE DITCH ON 75 AND THEY PAID FOR IT TO BE CLEANED OUT. SO, THEY ARE ACTIVE.

>> THEY ARE TAXING. WE WEREN'T DISPUTING THAT. IT WAS JUST ON OUR END ABOUT THE APPOINTMENT AND STUFF. SO WE WILL L■ET THE

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TWO COMMISSIONERS THAT REPRESENT THAT AREA GO MEET WITH THEM AND THEN PUT SOMETHING BACK ON THE AGENDA TO SEE WHERE WE NEED TO

GO WITH THAT ITEM. >> TARA, COULD SOMEBODY OR ANYBODY SEE IF THEY COULD FIND A MAP TO SHOW THE BOUNDARIES OF

THAT? >> ABSOLUTELY. I HAVE ONE.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. SEND IT TO THE ENTIRE COURT.

>> YOU WANT TO BRING THIS BACK TO A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM AT THE NEXT MEETING? WHO IS GOING TO DO WHAT RESEARCH TO BRING THIS BACK AS AN AGENDA ITEM SO THAT WE CAN KNOW HOW TO DISCUSS IT?

>> THE COMMISSIONERS PROBABLY NEED TO MEET WITH HER . BOTH OF THEM HAVE THAT, SO ONE OF THE OTHER OFFICE WILL PUT IT ON.

>> TAKE ACTION SO WE CONTINUE TO APPOINT THEM?

>> WE WILL GET TOGETHER AND DO SOME RESEARCH AND SOME TAX

INFORMATION. >> WILL NEXT MEETING GIVE YOU

ENOUGH TIME? >> LET ME OFFER THIS.

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ AND I ASKED TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA.

>> YES, AFTER YOU MEET WITH THEM.

>> MOTION TO TABLE THAT ONE UNTIL COMMISSIONER PUSLEY IS

BACK ON. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

MOTION TO TABLE. MOVING ON TO YOUR LIST. I'M SORRY.

>> I GUESS THERE IS A STATUTORY DIFFERENCE ON WHY ONE DRAINAGE DISTRICT IS UNDER US. AND THEN THE OTHER IS NOT. IF I RECALL, ALSO, A FEW YEARS AGO, THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS FOR DRAINAGE DISTRICT TWO, THEY ASKED FOR A PAY RAISE AND SO THEY HAD TO COME TO COURT TO BE APPROVED , WHICH IT THEN SHOWS SOME SORT OF HIERARCHY AND SO, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GOT INCLUDED ON THAT AND ACTUALLY VOTED ON THAT BECAUSE THEY ASKED THEMSELVES, AND WE AS A COURT COLLECTIVELY SUPPORTED IT , SO I'M JUST --. THERE IS A LOT OF CONFUSION ON BOTH DRAINAGE DISTRICTS IN MY OPINION THAT IS NOT CONSISTENT. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH. I STILL TO THIS DAY , I DON'T THINK I EVER ASKED BEVERLY OR GOT A CLEAR ANSWER AS TO WHY THAT VOTE CAME BEFORE COMMISSIONERS COURT.

>> IT IS A WEIRD STATUTE. >> IT ALSO SAYS , AGAIN, THE CHAIRMAN FOR SOME REASON IS NO LONGER THERE. IF THERE IS NOT ONE APPOINTED WITHIN 60 DAYS, COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL APPOINT SOMEBODY . BUT I THINK THE WHOLE DEAL WAS WITH LEGISLATION IN THE

BEGINNING. >> JUST A QUESTION THAT POPPED

UP. >> WE WILL CHECK ON BOTH OF THOSE WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT STATUTE.

>> THEY PROBABLY WERE GIVEN A REASON WHY THEY NEEDED TO VOTE, WHICH I SUPPORTED, BUT IT DOESN'T MATCHUP. THE

COMMISSIONERS CAN MAYBE --. >> I BELIEVE THE PETITION --.

>> WE HAVE A LOT OF THEM TO GO OUT THERE. THANK YOU.

>> NEXT TO THE CHILD WELFARE BOARD THAT ONE WE JUST RESTARTED. THEY ARE TRYING TO -- THEY ARE HAVING ANOTHER MEETING THIS MONTH. NEXT IS THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION. THEY MEET QUARTERLY . THAT IS AN ACTIVE BOARD. THE NEXT IS THE COUNTY COMMUNITY ACTION AGENCY BOARD . THAT IS NOT ACTUALLY OUR BOARD TECHNICALLY. IT IS A 501(C)(3) IS MY UNDERSTANDING. SO, I DON'T THINK IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE ON OUR LIST.

>> DO WE APPOINT PEOPLE? >> WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE COURT THAT SERVE ON THE BOARD BUT I DON'T THINK WE APPOINT THEM.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF COMMISSIONER GONZALES --.

>> I THINK THAT IS FROM THAT BOARD THAT THEY APPOINT YOU

GUYS. >> THE STEPHENS CITY APPOINTEES

? WHEN I WAS ON COUNSEL --. >> THEY WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT

SOMEBODY TO REPRESENT. >> HOW ABOUT WE MAKE A MOTION TO

REMOVE FROM THE LIST? >> THAT IS YOUR PERSONAL.

>> IT IS THE COUNTIES. I THINK IT IS BASED ON INCOME. AND THE INCOME DEMOGRAPHICS WERE CHANGED, IT WOULD NECESSARILY BE A PRECINCT 3 OR PRECINCT TO APPOINTMENT BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT COMES INDIVIDUAL. WE COULD APPOINT OURSELVES OR WE CAN APPOINT A MEMBER FROM ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY TO SERVE.

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>> BUT THEY APPOINT THEIR OWN MEMBERS IS WHAT SHE IS SAYING.

THEY JUST ASK YOU TO BE ON THERE. WE DON'T HAVE THE APPOINTING AUTHORITY , RIGHT, TARA?

>> THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTOOD IT. WE CAN LEAVE IT ON THERE.

>> I WOULD SAY WE TAKE IT OFF THE LIST.

>> MOTION TO TAKE IT OFF THE LIST. KNOW, YES?

>> BECAUSE IT IS NOT A COURT APPOINTMENT, SO I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE . UNANIMOUS DECISION. THANK YOU.

>> THE NEXT IS THE NUECES COUNTY GRANTS COMMITTEE. THAT IS NOT AN ACTIVE BOARD ANYMORE. IT IS NOT PART OF COURT POLICY. AS PART OF THE GRANTS ADMIN POLICY SO IF YOU GUYS WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE GRANTS ADMINISTRATION POLICY.

>> WHO ARE THE PEOPLE WHO SERVED IN THAT? IS THAT COUNTY

EMPLOYEES? >> THEY ARE COUNTY EMPLOYEES, THE COUNTY AUDITOR. IT HAD BEEN -- POINT

>> THIS IS NOT A COUNTY BOARD. >> IT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE

NEED. >> WE DO IT AND THAT IS ONE THING BUT I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THIS FROM OUR LIST.

>> SOUNDS GOOD. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE THIS FROM OUR LIST. I WILL SECOND THE MOTION.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALES SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

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>> MOTION TO DISSOLVE BASED ON TO PICKETED EFFORTS AND

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ACTIVITY. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION RESOLVED

UNANIMOUSLY. >> WE MIGHT HAVE TO TALK TO

JENNY ABOUT THIS. >> LET ME SEND KEISHA A TEXT

MESSAGE. >> SHE IS PROBABLY LISTENING.

>> NEXT WE HAVE THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, IT IS AN ACTIVE BOARD

. >> YES, VERY ACTIVE.

>> AFTER THAT WE HAVE THE VETERANS LOCAL LAND BOARD COMMITTEE, THAT IS NOT AN ACTIVE BOARD. I CHECKED WITH JJ, IT DATES JJ AND HE IS NOT SURE WHAT EXACTLY THAT DID . THE BOARD MEMBERS I HAVE LISTED ON MY PAGE, ONE OF THEM IS LISTED AS

DECEASED. >> MOTION TO DISSOLVE.

>> SECOND. BUT AS YOU SAID EARLIER, COMMISSIONER, NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T SUPPORT OUR VETERANS. WE SPEND A LOT ON

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THEM. BUT YOU ARE SAYING BASED ON A ETTER AND SERVICES OFFICES RECOMMENDATION HE DOES NOT FEEL THE NEED FOR THIS BOARD BECAUSE IT IS SO INACTIVE. AGAIN, WE TAKE CARE OF OUR VETERANS IN

OTHER WAYS. >> I WOULD SURE HATE TO FIGURE OUT SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE THAT WE NEEDED THIS.

>> LET'S JUST GET RID OF EVERYTHING .

>> IN THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AM OKAY WITH THAT CONCEPT.

>> SINCE OUR VETERANS SERVICE OFFICER RIGHT NOW HAS NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THIS AND DOES NOT KNOW THAT THEY NEED IT, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD RECOMMENDATION TO ME THAT WOULD RELATIVELY ARE NOT

UTILIZING THIS BOARD AT ALL. >> THAT OUR VETERANS REPRESENTATIVE HAVE ANY COMMENT ABOUT THIS, OR DID HE DO ANY RESEARCH ON IT TO SEE IF IT HAD DONE ANYTHING IN THE PAST?

>> I SPOKE WITH JJ JUST YESTERDAY, SO WHEN I TOUCH BASE WITH HIM HE SAID IT IRRITATED HIM, HE SAID IT WAS LISTED IN HIS JOB DESCRIPTION BUT HE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING, THERE WERE NEVER ANY MEETINGS OR ANYTHING ABOUT IT SINCE HE'S GOTTEN HERE.

>> I WILL TELL YOU WHAT. I'M GOING TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION TO DISSOLVE AND GIVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY. I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH ON IT AND COME BACK TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WITH A RECOMMENDATION. I WOULD RATHER THE RECOMMENDATION COME FROM HIM , THAN US TO FIRE OFF THE HIP AND DISSOLVE THIS BOARD.

>> SO THERE'S THE VETERANS LAND BOARD ON THE STATE LEVEL, SO MAYBE THIS HELPS COORDINATE ANY FUNCTION ON THE STATE LEVEL, OR MAYBE IT'S A DUPLICATION AND WE DON'T NEED IT. BUT I AGREE,

ASK, MAYBE. >> THERE IS NO ONE CURRENTLY

SERVING. >> THERE IS NO ONE SERVING, THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING. VETERANS SERVICE OFFICER HAD SAID HE DOES NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. BUT OKAY. IF YOU GUYS WANT TO WAIT

ON THIS AGAIN, -- >> I DON'T THINK IT HURTS TO WAIT. WE DON'T WANT TO SEND A MESSAGE OUT HERE THAT WE ARE DISSOLVING A VETERANS LAND BOARD IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE DISSOLVING. I WOULD RATHER ASKED FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT.

>> YOU WITHDREW YOUR MOTION, SO WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING.

WE WILL JUST BRING IT BACK. >> IF YOU WILL JUST TELL OUR VETERANS REPRESENTATIVE WE WOULD LIKE AND COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT WHAT HE WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH THIS.

THANK YOU. >> NEXT WE HAVE THE PORT, WHICH IS ACTIVE . AFTER THAT WE HAVE REGIONAL HEALTH AWARENESS BOARD, WHICH IS NOT AN ACTIVE BOARD. IT HAD BEEN ONE THAT WE HAD IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY, BUT THE CITY , IT WAS PART OF ONE OF THE CITIES SUNSET REVIEWS BACK IN 21, SO IT IS NO

LONGER ACTIVE. >> YEAH, I WORKED WITH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY TO HELP ESTABLISH THIS BOARD IN MY PREVIOUS LIFE AS COMMISSIONER, AND IT OPERATED FOR A WHILE AND THEN IT JUST BASICALLY DISSOLVED ITSELF. SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE

DISSOLVE THIS . >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DISSOLVE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR,

SAY AYE. >> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT WE HAVE RTA, WHICH IS AN ACTIVE BOARD. THEN WE HAVE SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY ACTIVE BOARD. NUECES COUNTY INDUSTRIAL DIVISION SHOULD NOT OF BEEN ON THERE. I WILL CHECK THE MINUTES ON THAT

FOR YOU. >> MOTION ON THAT SO SHE DOES NOT HAVE A GO BACK AND LOOK. I AM HAPPY WITH MAKING ANOTHER MOTION TO TAKE IT OFF AGAIN IF THAT WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR

EVERYBODY. I DON'T KNOW. >> WHICH ONE?

>> I MEAN, I AM 90% SURE WE DISBANDED THIS A LONG TIME AGO.

>> THIS IS INDUSTRIAL COMMISSION. WE DISBANDED.

>> IT WAS KNOWN AS THE INDUSTRIAL COMMISSION AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION. THEY WERE INTERCHANGEABLE.

>> THIS IS THE STATUTE LANGUAGE THAT YOU HAD TO FORMAT UNDER. IT

DID NOT REALLY MAKE SENSE . >> WE CLOSED IT OUT. WE STOPPED AT AND WE LOOPED OUT OF THE OFFICE, WE ARE NOT ACCEPTING ANY MONEY FOR IT, WE HAD A BOARD GRANT THEY WERE GIVING. THEY HAVE NOT DONE THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. THIS WAS DAY ONE.

>> I DON'T THINK IT IS CLOSE. I THINK IT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT ACTIVE, WE HAVE NOT ENGAGED AS A COURT. BUT I DON'T THINK WE EVER TOOK ACTION. BECAUSE IT WAS STATUTORY CREATED. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE JUST CREATED, WAS IT?

>> YES, WE CREATED IT UNDER A STATUTE.

>> ABSOLUTELY NOT. THIS WAS THE COUNTY JUDGES DEAL THAT SHE CAME UP WITH AND SHE FORMED, AND SHE APPOINTED ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS AND WE ABSOLUTELY, I WILL SAY IT, I AM 100% SURE BUT I WILL HAPPILY MAKE A MOTION TO RATIFY THE PRIOR COURT'S DECISION TO

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CLOSE THIS AGAIN, IF THAT WILL MAKE YOU MORE COMFORTABLE.

BECAUSE WE DID CLOSE IT, AND WE DID MAKE A MOTION. BUT I WILL DO

IT AGAIN. >> IF WE ALREADY DID --

>> BUT I WILL DO IT AGAIN. I'M OKAY. SOMEHOW IT STAYED ON THE LIST, SO I GET THAT THAT IS CONFUSING.

>> YES, WE CLOSED THE OFFICE. >> THERE IS NO ACTIVITY

WHATSOEVER. >> I JUST , MOTION TO TAKE IT

OFF THE LIST AND RE-DISSOLVE IT. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR. I'M NOT

TRYING TO BE FUNNY. >> NO, FORMALLY, IF IT WAS NOT OFFICIALLY TAKING CARE OF THE FIRST TIME.

>> I KNOW, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF POLITICAL ANGLE TO IT THAT MAYBE SOME OF THE COURT DID NOT SUPPORT, BUT I FELT I SUPPORTED THIS, AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A WHOLE DEBATE OF THE MERITS OF IT, BUT THE REASON WHY IT WAS BENEFICIAL IS BECAUSE EVERYONE IS LOOKING FOR A SMALLER FACTOR TO REPRESENT THEM. EVEN ROBS DOWN HAS AN RAD CEDAR REPRESENT THEIR INTEREST, BECAUSE I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, AND NOT CRITICAL OF THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE, BUT I'M CRITICAL OF NOT BEING INCLUDED IN A LOT OF ECONOMIC UPDATES. FROM OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. PARTICULARLY IN MY PRECINCT. WE THINK, I THINK COLLECTIVELY, WE AS PEOPLE WANT SMALLER, CLOSE REPRESENTATION.

THAT'S WHY WE WANT LOCAL REPRESENTATION. I FEEL THAT LOOKING FOR THE COUNTY'S INTEREST, BECAUSE REPRESENTING SAN PAT AND NUECES COUNTY. A WIN TO THEM IS A WIN TO THEM. STILL DYNAMICS, WHICH IS GREAT FOR THE REGION AND WE STILL REAP SOME BENEFITS, WAS NOT NECESSARILY A REAPING FOR NUECES COUNTY. BUT LOOK AT SAN PAT COUNTY, THEY ARE BLOWING IT GOING BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MANY BIG PLANTS THERE THAT ARE GOING OFF. GULF COAST VENTURES IS ANOTHER ONE. SO WE, I THINK, NEED SOMEBODY THAT'S GOING TO LOOK OUT FOR NUECES COUNTY INTERESTS. BECAUSE THEY ARE LIKE HEY, WE GOT A WIN. AND YES, WE DID. WE ARE SO HAPPY FOR OUR FRIENDS ACROSS THE BRIDGE. BUT STILL, WHEN YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT BUILDING TAX, WHICH WE ARE ALL TALKING ABOUT HERE IN NUECES COUNTY, WE DO AWAY WITH AN ENTITY THAT CAN HELP FOCUS ON THAT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS THE GREATEST WAY TO CREATE IT, BUT IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE JUDGE OF THIS COURT FEELS WE CAN START UP, IT IS READY TO GO. THERE'S NOT ANYTHING TO CREATE.

IF IT'S NOT STATUTORY AND WE CAN JUST CREATE IT WHEN THE NEED IS THERE, THEN I'M OKAY WITH THAT. BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE SOME VERIFICATION. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I KNOW WE DISSOLVED IT, BUT IF YOU WANT TO READ IS ALL THAT TODAY IN A MOTION, OR IF YOU WANT TO BRING IT BACK BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE WE NEED TO REFORM IT, YOU CAN ALWAYS BRING IT BACK TO REFORM. WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? WE CAN READ IS ALL THAT AND RATIFY THE RE-DISSOLVING AND REMOVE IT, OR IF YOU WANT TO TELL HER TO GO BACK AND LOOK, AND BY SOME CHANCE WE DIDN'T AND YOU WANT TO START IT BACK

UP, I DON'T KNOW. >> THAT REQUIRES STAFF. THAT

REQUIRES LOCATION. >> I GET ALL THE REASONS WHY, WE WENT THROUGH A LOT TO WEAN IT OFF. BUT ONCE AGAIN, YOU LOOK AT OTHER COUNTIES, THEY HAVE IT. SMALLER COUNTIES THAN US HAVE THAT FUNCTION. WE DON'T. WE HAVE ABDICATED OUR CONTROL TO ASSIST HIM THAT REPRESENTS MULTIPLE COUNTIES, NOT JUST NUECES. SO IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH TAKING A WIN AS A REGION BUT NOT NECESSARILY SEEING THE BENEFITS FOR OUR COUNTY, THEN I'M OKAY WITH THAT. WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THAT. THAT'S MY POINT ABOUT THE CREATION. I DON'T CARE WHY IT WAS CREATED, WHO CREATED IT, WHATEVER. I KNOW THE MONEY IS A BIG DEAL. I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE CONCEPT OF IT IS SOMETHING WE ARE STILL CONSIDERING. MAYBE WE CAN MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT. MAYBE IT COMBINES WITH THE RAD SOMEHOW. MAYBE JUST WORK ON REGIONAL STUFF. THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO LOOK AT THIS. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. BUT IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE, IF IT'S ALREADY

DONE, I'M OKAY WITH IT. >> I THINK WE NEED TO POINT OUT, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ABDICATED ALL. WE GIVE MONEY, A LOT OF MONEY TO WESTSIDE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION. DID THE NORTHWEST BUSINESS ASSOCIATION , THE BLACK CHAMBER, ALL IN THE VEIN OF

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. >> THEY ARE NOT TASKED WITH ACTUALLY GOING OUT AND RECRUITING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

>> OH, YES THEY ARE. THAT IS WHAT THEY DO. THEY ARE

ENCOURAGING GROWTH. >> THEY ARE ENCOURAGING, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ECONOMIC TOOLS, ANY INCIDENTS.

>> AND WHY ARE WE GIVING THE MONEY?

>> THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. THAT'S A MUCH BIGGER ISSUE.

>> WE HAVE NO FUNDING FOR ITS ADVISING ANYTHING.

>> THE MORE GROUPS WE GET -- >> THAT'S THE REASON, RESPECTFULLY I DISAGREE WITH YOU WHEN YOU SAY WE ABDICATED. ONE, COUNTY GOVERNMENT IS NOT SET UP BY STATUTE TO DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO TECHNICALLY WE ARE NOT EVEN CHARGED WITH THAT

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OF THE COUNTY. TWO, WE HAVE FUNDS FOR MANY DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT THEY ARE CHARGED, AND WE GET IT UNDER THE GUISE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IT IS IN THE CONTRACT THAT WE GIVE THEM. WHAT THEY DO FOR THEIR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IF YOU HAVE DEBATE OVER AN INDIVIDUAL GROUP THAT DOES NOT

DO, BUT I CAN TELL YOU -- >> I'M NOT SAYING, EVERYBODY IS GOING TO GO PRODUCE. THIS IS WHAT WE DO WITH THE MONEY TO JUSTIFY IT BY PARAMETERS, BUT DID THAT REALLY HELP IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS? I WOULD ARGUE IF YOU PUT ALL THAT MONEY TOGETHER YOU COULD FUND ONE ENTITY THAT REPRESENTS NUECES

COUNTY'S INTEREST. >> AND I WOULD ARGUE THAT I THINK IT'S BETTER IN THE LOCAL CONTROL OF THE BUSINESS ASSOCIATIONS THAT WE GIVE IT TO , BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING HARD.

>> HOW MANY GROUPS ARE ADDED ON? HOW MANY MORE ARE COMING IN THE UPCOMING YEAR THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ASKED TO FUND?

>> I DON'T KNOW. GET A REPORT.

>> WE HAVE TO CUT SOME POINT AND MAKE A DECISION.

>> WE WILL HAVE TO GIVE LESS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE AS MANY CAPITAL CREDITS. I THINK WE ARE GIVING TO THE LOCAL ENTITIES. CAN I JUST FINISH? I'VE LET YOU FINISH. PLEASE. I THINK WE ARE GIVING TO THE LOCAL ENTITIES THAT SERVE AND DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT VERY WELL. PEOPLE IN THE WESTSIDE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION ARE GOING TO FOCUS ON BRING IT THERE. PEOPLE IN LONDON ARE GOING TO FOCUS ON BRING IT THERE. PEOPLE IN NORTHWEST ARE GOING TO FOCUS BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO WORK HARD TO GET BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY IN THEIR COMMUNITIES, AND THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING. EXACTLY. NOW, IF YOU WANT TO BRING THAT BACK IS A BIG TEACHER DISCUSSION AND DO AWAY WITH ALL THAT, I WOULD NOT SUPPORT THAT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, EITHER. BUT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, THEN WE CAN HAVE THAT BIG PICTURE DISCUSSION. BUT I THINK WE ARE 100% GIVING MONEY TO THESE ENTITIES TO HELP US WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S NOT A CHARGE OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT. I DON'T WANT PEOPLE WALKING OUT OF YOUR THINKING WE ARE GIVING UP ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE WE GIVE MONEY TO THE RAD C, WE GIVE MONEY TO 10 OR 12 DIFFERENT

GROUPS. >> NUMBER ONE, THE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN HAD AND I THINK EVERYBODY HAS HEARD BOTH SIDES.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE ARE GOING TO CREATE ANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS, THIS NEEDS TO COME UP DURING BUDGET. THERE IS NO FUNDING FOR IT RIGHT NOW, SO AT THE END OF THE DAY ALL OF THESE DISCUSSIONS ARE GREAT, BOTH SIDES HAD VALID POINTS, BUT THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN TODAY. I THINK WE HAVE ALREADY DISSOLVED THIS, IF WE NEED TO COME BACK AND RE-CREATE SOMETHING , IF IT BECOMES FEASIBLE, IF WE HAVE THE FUNDING FOR IT. THE STAFF, THE LOCATION, ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN SHUT DOWN. SO THIS IS A MAJOR BUDGET ENDEAVOR AND THIS WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK DURING BUDGET.

I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY IT HAS ALREADY BEEN SOLVED FOR US.

WE CAN'T DO IT RIGHT NOW, AND IT WOULD BE COMING UP, IF WE GET

A BIG INFLUX OF FUNDING. >> OKAY.

>> SO DID WE HAVE A VOTE ON THIS ? TO RATIFY, TO DISSOLVE OR REMOVE? READ DISSOLVE , IF IT IS. BUT WE CAN ALWAYS RE-CREATE LATER. YES. COMMISSIONER PUSLEY, I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. ONE LAST COMMENT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. I WILL MAKE THIS BRIEF. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HOW THIS COMMITTEE WAS CREATED. I KNOW IT WAS FUNDED THROUGH A GIFT, BASICALLY, FROM THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI , I GUESS. BUT I DO UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER MAREZ 'S POINT. WE HAD THE SAME ISSUE IN THE CITY, AND THE COUNCIL RAISED A CONCERN ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION REALLY IS FOCUSED ON BIG DEALS. THE STEEL PLANTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND THAT'S GREAT. WE VIGOROUSLY SUPPORTED THAT. BUT EVEN MIKE CULBERSON CAME BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND SAID WE DON'T LOOK AT SMALL DEALS. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE CHARGED WITH DOING. SO WE NEED SOME WAY OF LOOKING CLOSELY AT WHAT WE DO WITH RESPECT TO INVESTMENTS IN OUR COUNTY THAT ARE NOT STEEL DYNAMICS, EXXON, OR WHATEVER. AND RIGHTFULLY SO, WITHIN A PARTICULAR COUNTY. I WILL GIVE YOU A PERFECT EXAMPLE, I HAD THE NORTHWEST BUSINESS ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT COME TO MY OFFICE THE OTHER DAY, AND I GIVE THEM A CHALLENGE. WE GIVE THEM A LOT OF MONEY OVER THE YEARS, AND I CHALLENGE THEM TO GROW THEIR MEMBERSHIP AND GROW THE THINGS THAT THEY DO TO SHOW THAT WE ARE ADDING SOME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH RESPECT TO THE MONEY THAT WE ARE PROVIDING TO THEM. SO ANYWAY, THAT IS JUST KIND OF A MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROAD POINT OF VIEW. I AGREE, YOUR HONOR, BEFORE WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS WE HAVE TO HAVE FUNDING AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A DECISION ABOUT WHAT THEIR CHARGES GOING TO BE. ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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>> THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. AND THE LAST ONE

ON THE LIST, THANK YOU . >> THE LAST ONE IS BETTER HEALTH ACT OUTCOMES. THAT IS AN INACTIVE BOARD.

>> PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERNS OF THE COUNTY, AND MAKE PERIODIC RECOMMENDATIONS TO COMMISSIONERS COURT.

>> IT IS INACTIVE. IT WAS MADE UP OF JUST MEMBERS OF THE

HOSPITAL DISTRICT . >> MOTION TO DISSOLVE. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DISSOLVE THIS INACTIVE BOARD. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION

PASSES. >> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MOVE HOSPITAL DISTRICT ITEMS UP . IF

YOU DON'T MIND. >> I WILL MOVE THEM UP AS SOON AS WE GET THROUGH WITH THESE TWO APPOINTMENTS. I THINK THAT'S

ALL WE HAVE LEFT ON THIS. >> BEFORE WE FINISH THIS ONE UP, COULD I ASK THAT WE OPEN FOR APPLICATIONS FOR THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD FROM MARCH 19TH TO APRIL 2ND, SO THAT WE CAN

MAKE APPOINTMENTS? >> THAT'S NOT POSTED, IS IT?

>> NO, IT IS NOT POSTED. UNDER THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR THE BOARD UPDATES. IS IT TOO FAR UNDER RELATED MATTERS?

>> WE HAVE NOT DONE IT LIKE THAT IN THE PAST.

[G. BOARD APPOINTMENTS:]

>> WE HAVEN'T DONE IT LIKE THAT IN THE PAST, LET'S PUT IT ON THE NEXT ONE. THANK YOU FOR THAT, THOUGH.

>>

>>> THAT IS GREAT , WE HAVE FOUR APPLICATIONS,

>> JUST FOR A NOTE, FOR CLARIFICATION THE MARK THOMAS JACK AND JILL MOWING HAS BEEN DOING THE MOWING OUT THERE FOR FULL AWARENESS AND TRANSPARENCY.

>> HE ALSO HAS A PLANE. I DON'T KNOW THE OTHER TWO I AM JUST NOMINATING TIM BECAUSE I KNOW HIM AND IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS

PREFERENCE. >> I DON'T KNOW EITHER OF THE

INDIVIDUALS. >> HE CURRENTLY HAS WORKED WITH

THE COUNTY. >> I THINK HE HAS DONE IT FOR A

LONG TIME. >> THAT DOES NOT COME BEFORE THE

BOARD. >> THAT IS INDIVIDUAL.

>> THEY DON'T HAVE REVIEW OF THAT OR ANY WAY TO IMPROVE OR

ENCOURAGE? >> I THE BOARD I GUESS IS THAT

COME BEFORE THE AIRPORT BOARD? >> TO MY KNOWLEDGE IT IS PURE ADVISORY AND THEY DON'T MAKE THOSE KINDS OF DECISIONS.

>> IT IS NOT GO BEFORE THE ADVISORY BOARD AT ALL, IT IS

HANDLED BY PURCHASING. >> I GUESS I WOULD RECOMMEND HE IS A COMMERCIAL PILOT AND I THINK IT'S GOOD TO HAVE PILOTS THAT SERVE ON THE BOARD ALL THREE WERE PILOTS IF I REMEMBER RIGHT. SO IT IS AWESOME WE HAVE APPLICATIONS .

>> MOTION FOR THE MARK THOMAS AND JAMES?

>> I WOULD MAKE IT OR SECOND. >> THERE'S ONLY TWO OPEN

POSITIONS. >> SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GO OFF.

>> TELL THE OTHER GUY TO HANG AROUND.

>> SO THIS TERM IS SORRY BOTH VACANCIES ARE UNEXPIRED TERMS. SO WE HAVE TO REAPPOINT THESE IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR ANYWAY.

>> TWO OTHERS AS WELL. >> SEE WHAT THEIR ATTENDANCE AND PARTICIPATION IS LIKE AND IF NOT ENCOURAGE A THIRD PERSON TO COME BACK AND REAPPLY BECAUSE WE APPOINT THREE POSITIONS.

>> FOUR POSITIONS. >> ONLY TWO OPEN POSITIONS.

MOTION AND SECOND MARK THOMAS AND JAMES FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES AND WE THANK MR. LANSFORD

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FOR HIS APPLICATION AND HOPE YOU WILL REALLY PLAY REASON. THE CHILD WELFARE BOARD TWO OPEN POSITIONS WITH NO APPLICANTS AND WE ARE ASKING TO REOPEN , THIS IS THE ONE WE HAVE TO KEEP , THIS IS SO WHAT ARE THE DATES YOU WANT TO READ?

>> I BELIEVE WE HAVE THEM LISTED FOR THE NEXT MONTH. MARCH 19 TO

APRIL 16. >> SO MOVED.

>> BEFORE SECOND DEADLINE BEFORE SECOND MEETING? OKAY. IS THE

SECOND ? >> I WILL SECOND AND FOLLOW-UP FOR TARA I KNOW YOU GET A LOT OF CALLS OR WE GET CALLS AND THEN REFER BACK TO YOU YOU'RE THE ONE WHO KEEPS TRACK OF ALL OF THIS WE HAVE A PRESENCE ON FACEBOOK FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED

IN APPOINTMENTS? >> I'M NOT SURE WE DO.

>> UPCOMING APPOINTMENTS OR SCHEDULING ON THAT? TOO MUCH TO

ASK? >> I CAN GET WITH PEYTON AND

FRANCIS. >> NOT A LOT I THINK THE CITY DOES A PRETTY GOOD JOB BUT THEY HAVE A HUGE TEAM, WE GET QUESTIONS AND A PARTICULAR SKILL SET OR INTEREST THAT THEY WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN SO THEY CAN GO LOOK UP WHEN THE POSITION MAY BE UP AGAIN OR WHO IS SERVING ON THE BOARD.

>> IT IS NOT HARD TO POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

>> I THOUGHT WE HAD IT BUT IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

>> IT IS AWARE LITTLE BUTTON BUT IT'S NOT EASY TO FIND OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT LIKE THAT. ANY OTHER DIRECTION WE CAN SEND PEOPLE TO SHOW THEM IS GREAT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO POST FOR THOSE OPEN POSITIONS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES AND THANK YOU. MOVING UP THREE A

[4. Discuss and consider adoption of resolution supporting legislation in the 89th Texas Legislative Session relating to the establishment of a grant program to allow the Nueces County Hospital District to recruit and retain certain medical professionals.]

4 WILL GET THE THINGS FOR YOU AND FIVE NUMBER FOUR DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION SUPPORTING LEGISLATION IN THE 89TH TEXAS LEGISLATIVE SESSION RELATED TO ESTABLISHMENT OF GRANT PROGRAM TO ALLOW HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO RECUPERATE AND RETAIN CERTAIN MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND ALL YOU TALK ABOUT AT FIRST YOU SEND A VERY GOOD EMAIL THAT HELPED ME OUT WITH IT AFTERWARDS I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

>> WITH ITEM 4 LET ME GO AT THIS IN A COUPLE OF DAYS. WHENEVER THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT PURSUES LEGISLATION IN AUSTIN, OUR LOCAL REPRESENTATIVE INSISTS WE HAVE A SUPPORTING RESOLUTION FROM COMMISSIONERS COURT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO DISCORD BETWEEN DISTRICT AND THE COURT ABOUT WHAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT LEGISLATION IS TRYING TO DO SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE THIS IN FRONT OF YOU. THE ACTUAL CONTENT OF THE RESOLUTION HAS ITS ORIGIN AND THE ISSUE WE HAD IN 2023 WITH EMERGENCY MEDICINE RESIDENCY PROGRAM IN THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT STEPPED UP AND FUNDED THAT. PROVISION AND THAT REQUIRED THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO CONDUCT A PHYSICIAN NEEDS ASSESSMENT OF WHAT SPECIALTIES AND SUBSPECIALTIES WERE NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY. SO WE HAVE THAT STILL BEING VETTED. IN THE MEANTIME WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE LEGISLATURE PRIMARILY NAME ] TO COME UP WITH LANGUAGE THAT WOULD ALLOW THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO USE AS FUNDS TO ADDRESS IN THE RECRUITMENT OF PHYSICIANS IN THE COMMUNITY AND TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF RESIDENCY PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. THERE ARE CURRENTLY TWO BILLS FILED THAT I HAVE SHARED WITH YOU. THE FIRST IS HOUSE BILL 4801 BY REPRESENTATIVE SENATE BILL 2666 BY SENATOR BILLS IS VERY SIMILAR. IS A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE IN HOW WE GO ABOUT ADDRESSING SPECIALTIES AND STUFF NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY. I HAVE SHARED WITH YOU COPIES OF THE DRAFT BILL , THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT IS , THE BOARD WILL RECEIVE TUESDAY CONSIDERING FURTHER BUT THERE RESULT OF LEGISLATIVE INITIATIVES WE HAVE GOING ON, THE DRAFT BILLS ARE SIMILAR. ONE

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MAJOR PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH THE BILL IN THE DRAFT IT OBLIGATES THE DISTRICT TO USE FUNDS TO DO THESE THINGS AND WHEN YOU HAVE OBLIGATION IN THE BILL IT ASSUMES THERE WILL BE MONEY ON GOING FOREVER TO DO THAT AND WE WOULD PREFER THE WORDING IN THE BILL BE PERMISSIVE SO THE DISTRICT MAY DO THIS. SO THE WAY THE BILLS ARE DRAFTED IT WILL ALLOW THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO USE ITS FUNDS FROM ANY SOURCE AND THAT INCLUDES TAX MONEY TO ADDRESS RETAINING AND RECORDING OF PHYSICIANS IN THE COMMUNITY AND TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF RESIDENCY POSITIONS. AND SO WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING OUR

EFFORTS TO DO THAT. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY YOU HAVE

QUESTIONS? >> I APPRECIATE YOUR INTENT ON THIS AND I THINK IT STEMS FROM CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE GONE ON AND I WOULD ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT IT AND YOU WERE KIND ENOUGH TO RESPOND ON THIS. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE FOR ANYBODY PAYING ATTENTION IT DOES PROVIDE ACCORDING TO YOUR RESPONSE ANYONE AND I SAY ANYONE, IT ALLOWS OTHER HOSPITAL SYSTEMS OR MEDICAL SYSTEMS OR WHOEVER TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT MONEY. CAN YOU GIVE ME AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU THINK THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE UNDER

THIS LEGISLATION? >> TO REFINE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMISSIONER. IT CAN BE ANY HOSPITALS LOCATED IN THE COUNTY.

THERE IS DRISCOLL, LEGISLATION IS AIMED AT SERVICES PROVIDED TO ADULTS SO GENERALLY NOT INCLUDE DRISCOLL , BUT THEY COULD BE INCLUDED. SO JESUS FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO USE FUNDS TO GRANT TOWARD THESE GRANTS. WE WOULD HAVE TO STEP THROUGH A COUPLE MORE HOOPS TO BE ABLE TO AWARD FUNDS TO HCA SO THE ONLY HOSPITALS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SYSTEMS WOULD BE SPOHN AND THE HCA. SO I HOPE I AM ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION. IT IS AVAILABLE TO ALL HOSPITALS PRACTICALLY SPEAKING WE ONLY HAVE MAYBE ONE OR TWO CHILDREN ENROLLED IN THE PROGRAM BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE COVERED BY MEDICAID AND CHIP. SO THE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS WOULD BE GENERALLY AVAILABLE TO THE GRANTS ALTHOUGH THE DISTRICT HAS NOT DEVELOPED THE RULES, WE ARE WORKING ON THEM THAT WOULD APPLY TO THIS PROGRAM IF IT GOES THIS WAY.

>> MY FOLLOW-UP TO THAT IS I THINK I ASKED DOES THIS ALLOW ANY HOSPITAL TO APPLY AND YOU SAID YES SO NOW MAYBE CLARIFY BECAUSE DRISCOLL WOULD BE ON THE LIST OF PEOPLE I WOULD WANT TO BE INCLUDED BECAUSE OF THE GREAT CHARITY WORK THEY DO IN COASTAL BEND. IF THIS IS LEGISLATION JUST GOING TO BE AT THE END OF THE DAY SPOHN I AM OUT BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO INTO MY FEELING ABOUT THAT LEADERSHIP THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS DISCUSSION. IF THIS IS SOMETHING CLEARLY ARTICULATED THAT CAN BE USED FOR OTHER HOSPITAL SYSTEMS INCLUDING DRISCOLL THAN I AM MORE INCLINED TO BE IN FAVOR OF THIS BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE GIVEN ENOUGH FOR THE NEXT HUNDRED YEARS QUITE FRANKLY TO SET SOMETHING UP THAT MAKES IT EASIER TO DO THAT ONLY FOR THEM , THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I'M INTERESTED IN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXTRA HOOPS ARE FOR THE HCA I DON'T KNOW WHY DRISCOLL COULDN'T BE INVOLVED, I DON'T KNOW WHY IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS THAT IT COULD NOT BE, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD LIMIT TO JUST DO SYSTEMS BECAUSE WE NEED TO RETAIN DOCTORS, WE NEED TO RECRUIT DOCTORS IN THIS COMMUNITY AND I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE TO ONE ENTITY OVER ANOTHER WITH LEGISLATION SO TO ME THE WORLD HAS TO BE ABLE TO PLAY AS LONG AS IT'S INDIGENT CARE RELATED.

I GET YOU HAVE THE CHARGE BUT I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT THIS TO WHERE IT'S EASY FOR SPOHN AND DIFFICULT FOR HCA AND A POSSIBLE FOR DRISCOLL OR ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT BECAUSE IF IT IS INDIGENT CARE RELATED I CANNOT THINK OF WHO IT MIGHT BE NOW BUT LET'S SAY A&M CORPUS CHRISTI HAS SOME

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WEIGHT OF A PROGRAM INVOLVED FOR INDIGENT CARE AND THEY CAN HELP RECRUIT DOCTORS. I DON'T WANT TO ELIMINATE THE MEDIA. I THINK YOUR INTENT ON THIS IS PHENOMENAL BUT THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS, LEGISLATURE BELIEVE ME I GET IT I JUST DON'T WANT TO LIMIT THIS TO WHERE IT'S JUST A BANKROLL FOR SPOHN AND NOT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN THERE. ONE OF THE HURDLES WHY CAN'T IT BE DRISCOLL AND WHY CAN'T WE EXPAND TO OTHERS THAT HE AND HAVE TO FIT THE CHARGE I GET THAT. INDIGENT CARE RELATED BUT MY GOSH THAT'S A LOT OF POSSIBILITY WE COULD BE LOOKING AT.

>> THE WAY THE BILL IS DRAFTED IT'S OPEN TO ANY HOSPITAL LOCATED IN THE COUNTY AND IT WOULD COME DOWN TO HOW THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD DEVELOPS THE RULES FOR THE GRANTS. SO THERE ARE PHYSICIANS, I AGREE THAT CROSSOVER TREATING ADULTS AND CHILDREN AND THE LEGISLATION DOES NOT RESTRICT IT TO BE ANY PARTICULAR HOSPITAL TO WHAT IS JUST HOSPITALS IN THE COUNTY.

>> WHAT WERE THE HOOPS WITH A DIFFERENT HOSPITALS?

>> WITH HCA BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE INDIGENT CARE CONTRACT WITH

TO TAKE ADDITIONAL STEPS. >> YOU HAVE A CONTRACT WITH SPOHN THAT'S THE ONLY HOSPITAL?

>> FOR INDIGENT CARE, YES. >> TO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH ANY OF THEM SO THEY COULD UTILIZE THIS? I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE STANDARD CONTRACT IF THEY CAME TO YOU WITH THIS IT WOULD BE SIMPLE TO IMPLEMENT. OR DOES THAT PRECLUDE YOU BECAUSE OF

YOUR OTHER CONTRACT? >> NO THE WAY THE WORDING IS AFTER CONSULTING WITH COUNCIL WE CAN DO CONTRACTS WITH HCA AND DRISCOLL, NOT LIMITED TO SPOHN. WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE ADDITIONAL STEPS TO MAKE SURE THE WORDING WE PUT IN THE GRANT COALESCES WITH THE REQUIREMENTS FOR US TO DO INDIGENT CARE. THE REASON WE CANNOT DO INDIGENT CARE CONTRACT WITH HCA IS BECAUSE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH SPOHN IS EXCLUSIVE, BUT WE CAN DO OTHER THINGS TO INCLUDE OTHER FACILITIES. I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THE WAY THE STATUTE IS WRITTEN. ANY HOSPITAL IN THE COUNTY. THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE THREE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS SO WE DON'T INTEND TO ADD LANGUAGE IN HERE THAT RESTRICTS TO ANY PARTICULAR TYPE OF HOSPITAL OR ANY NAMED HOSPITAL. A GENERAL BILL THAT APPLIES TO ALL HOSPITALS. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY YOU ARE CORRECT IT COMES BACK TO HOW THE RULES AND STUFF ARE WRITTEN FOR THE GRANTS AND I THINK IT'S VALUABLE WITH REGARD TO THE RULES THAT THE BOARD ADOPTS TO DO THE GRANTS.

>> SO THEN WE ARE A LITTLE AT THE MERCY OF THE HOSPITAL BOARD MEMBERS IN WRITING THE GRANTS WHICH OKAY , THAT CAN AND THEN FLOW WITH THE BOARD SO I MEAN YEAH. I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET SOME ASSURANCES, MAYBE IT SHOULD BE , I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE BOARD IS GOING TO DO. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE BOARD IS GOING TO RECOMMEND BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THEIR FEELING ON WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO ON THESE RULES. THIS IS KIND OF A BLIND ASK. WE GOT THIS LATE AND I GET AT THE LEGISLATURE IS A LATE PROCESS WE'VE GOT AGO, GOT AGO. I GET IT. YOU HAVE THINGS COMING UP, IF THEY KNOW IF WE ARE SUPPORTING. I WOULD'VE THOUGHT MAYBE YOU COULD'VE COME IN WITH A DRAFT OF WHAT THE BOARD RULES ARE GOING TO BE IN PART OF THIS COME ABOUT WOULD'VE BEEN SUPER HELPFUL BECAUSE I JUST DON'T WANT THIS LIMIT TO ANYBODY AT ALL AND I DON'T WANT THE BOARD TO BE ABLE TO WRITE THE RULES JUST LIKE I WOULD NOT WANT US TO BE ABLE TO WRITE THE RULES THAT SYSTEM AND CAN CAN'T DO IT IN TWO LOOPS TOO BIG. WHY WOULDN'T WE INCLUDE, LIKE HOW DOES IT WORK? DOES IT HAVE TO BE A HOSPITAL? IF THE CORPUS CHRISTI MEDICAL ASSOCIATION CAME FORWARD WITH A GREAT PLAN THAT CHECKED ALL THE INDIGENT CARE BOXES TO RECRUIT DOCTORS WHY COULDN'T THEY BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS? I THINK IT OUGHT TO BE ANY MEDICAL RELATED GROUP IN THE COUNTY THAT MEETS THE STANDARD TO COME IN HERE AND DO

THIS. >> THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVE

IT CAN PROVIDE SERVICES. >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

>> THEY HAVE TO PROVE THEY CAN DO THAT.

>> I CAN HELP. COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE, I CAN HELP ADDRESS SOME

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OF THIS. AS A BOARD OUR CONCERN ARE THE REASON WE WANTED TO PUSH THIS FORWARD WAS BECAUSE WE WANT TO INCREASE THE MEDICAL EDUCATION IN OUR AREA. THAT HAS TO BE THROUGH RESIDENCY PROGRAMS SO THIS WAS NEVER THOUGHT OF THIS IS FOR SPOHN. WE HAVE RESIDENCY PROGRAMS IN ALL THREE HOSPITALS CURRENTLY. IF WE LOOK AT HCA CURRENTLY, THEY HAVE CONTINUED TO CUT THE INTERNAL MEDICINE PROGRAM. THEY HAD A FAMILY MEDICINE PROGRAM, IT'S GONE, THEY HAVE INTERNAL MEDICINE PROGRAM THAT THEY STARTED WITH 12 AND THEN EIGHT, NOW DOWN TO FOUR. THE MEDICAL EDUCATION THE INCREASE OF PHYSICIANS TRAINED IN THIS AREA IS DWINDLING AND GETTING SMALLER. WE WANTED TO PROPOSE THIS SO MEDICAL EDUCATION COULD INCREASE IN OUR AREA. IF WE WANTED A CARDIOLOGY FELLOW IN HCA OR A FELLOW AT CHRISTIE'S OR A PEDIATRIC FELLOW TO COME INTO TOWN HOW DO WE INCREASE, HOW DO WE FUND THE MEDICAL EDUCATION IN THIS AREA TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE TRAINING OUR OWN AND THEN THEY STAY HERE . SO OUR THOUGHT IS A BOARD WAS , LET'S GO TO THE LEGISLATURE TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THOSE SPOTS INCREASED IN THIS AREA BECAUSE COMMISSIONER CHESNEY LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, IT CAN BE MEDICAL ASSOCIATION. RECRUITMENT IS EASY, IT'S HARDER TO TRAIN BECAUSE THEY STAY HERE. WHEN YOU RECRUIT SOMEBODY IT'S EASIER TO TRAIN THEM AND THEN THEY STAY HERE TO PRACTICE. SO THAT'S OUR INTENT, INTENT IS TO GET LEGISLATURE TO FOCUS ON INCREASING THE MEDICAL EDUCATION IN OUR AREA AND THAT IS DONE TO THE HEALTH SYSTEMS. I WILL TELL YOU AS A BOARD, I AM HERE SPEAKING AS OUR BOARD. OUR THOUGHT AND WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IS FOR MEDICAL EDUCATION TO INCREASE AND WE ARE NOT SIDING WITH ONE HOSPITAL ENTITY VERSUS THE OTHER. IF IT'S GOING TO BRING HELP TO OUR COMMUNITY, I WILL TELL YOU THAT I AM FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF OUR AREA FOR BUSINESSES TO COME HERE.

RIGHT NOW OUR CITIZENS CANNOT GET THE CARE WE NEED. WE HAVE TO GO ELSEWHERE BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH MEDICAL PROVIDERS.

SO THAT IS THE REASON FOR THE BILL.

>> ARE YOU STATING YOUR CONTRACT WITH THE SPOHN DOES NOT PRECLUDE YOU FROM BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH ONE OF THE OTHER HOSPITALS THAT APPLY FOR THE GRANT? STATING AS THE BOARD YOU'RE GOING TO

WELCOME THOSE APPLICATIONS? >> YES MA'AM BECAUSE WE WILL DO WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I WILL WAIT, YES SORRY.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> WOULD THAT ALSO INCLUDE THE HECTOR GARCIA CENTER THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR GRANTS SINCE THEY APPLY FOR ONE THROUGH THE PROGRAM? THEY SEEMED LIKE A

PERFECT FIT. >> THAT IS CORRECT, THE RESIDENCY PROGRAM CURRENTLY FAMILY MEDICINE RESIDENCY CURRENTLY IS THE ONE THAT OVERSEES THE HECTOR GARCIA AS THEY CARE FOR OUR PATIENTS AT THAT FACILITY.

>> OKAY AND I AM READING THE EMAIL I RECEIVED THIS MORNING.

THIS IS ALL GEARED TOWARD INDIGENT HEALTHCARE?

>> YES THAT IS OUR CHARGE. >> SO THE RESIDENCY PROGRAMS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WOULD'VE TO BE PROGRAMS , RESIDENCY PROGRAMS FOCUSED ON INDIGENT HEALTHCARE ONLY?

>> NO SIR THE RESIDENCY PROGRAMS WOULD BE FOCUSED ON THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. FOR EXAMPLE, A QUICK EXAMPLE. THE INDIGENT PATIENTS , RIGHT NOW IF THEY WERE TO TRY TO SEE, LET'S SAY THE FAMILY MEDICINE DOCTOR SAYS THAT TO BE SEEN BY A G.I.

SPECIALIST WHICH PEOPLE THAT ARE PAYING PATIENTS THAT HAVE INSURANCE CANNOT GET IN WITH THE G.I. RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OUR INDIGENT PATIENTS ARE PUSHED EVEN FURTHER BACK TO GET THE CARE THEY NEED. IF WE COULD GET A HOSPITAL ENTITY TO SAY WE WILL WORK ON STARTING A G.I. PROGRAM, RESIDENCY PROGRAM THEN WE WOULD HELP THAT. WE WOULD WANT TO HELP THAT BECAUSE AGAIN OVERALL, IT HELPS WITH THE CARE OF OUR

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COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. >> YEAH, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ AND I HAD BREAKFAST WITH DOM LAST WEEK AND HE TOLD US WE ARE ABOUT OUT OF GASTROENTEROLOGISTS IN THE COMMUNITY, DOWN TO A HANDFUL SO THAT'S ALARMING AND YOUR COMMENT ABOUT PEOPLE HAVING TO GO TO OTHER CITIES FOR HEALTHCARE IS ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS AND SOMETHING I HOPE WE CAN CORRECT OVER THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR YEARS BECAUSE IT IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH, IF YOU ARE ILL WITH SOME TYPE OF CRITICAL CARE NEEDS , IF YOU HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL AND THE MONEY AND THE INSURANCE AND WHATEVER, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO STAY HERE TO GET THE CARE. YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO SAN ANTONIO OR HOUSTON OR WHEREVER AND I THINK THAT IS A SAD TESTAMENT FOR THE EIGHTH LARGEST COMMUNITY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS TO BE SAYING THAT. JOHNNY, I GUESS THE THING THAT CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS AS I KNOW THAT YOU ARE ASKING THEM TO MAYBE AMEND THE BILL TO INCLUDE MONEY THAT WOULD COME FROM A STATE LEVEL NOT JUST A LOCAL LEVEL. CORRECT?

>> CORRECT, WE ALSO INTEND , WE ARE WORKING ON FUNDING REDDISH FOR MEDICAL GRADUATE EDUCATION TO BE DIRECTED TO OUR COMMUNITY.

TO US OR TO THE PROGRAMS THAT WE SUPPORT. THIS BILL DOES NOT ACT IN ISOLATION. IT HAS SOME WRITERS THAT WE ARE PUT IN FOR CONSIDERATION TO GET MONEY HERE. THE WAY THE BILL IS WRITTEN TODAY IS THAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT WOULD USE ITS FUNDS UNDER THE MANDATORY PROVISION OF THE AGREEMENT , TO RETAIN, RECRUIT PHYSICIANS AND INCREASE THE NUMBER OF RESIDENCIES. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO NOT MAKE IT MANDATORY SO WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO IT BECAUSE MONEY IS NOT FOREVER.

>> I CAN REMEMBER IN 2011 YOU COMING BEFORE THIS COURT AND SING THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT WAS REACHING SOLVENCY BECAUSE OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED. SO THAT'S IMPORTANT WE HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE WE ACCEPT THE GRANT AND THE GRANT SAYS GO HIRE THREE PEOPLE AND WHEN THE GRANT RUNS OUT WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE THREE PEOPLE CARE -- YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE MONEY LOCALLY SO I WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE US TIE OUR HANDS TO THAT SPECIFICALLY. WE SHALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO OPT IN OR OUT AT ANY TIME WHEN WE FEEL IT IS NECESSARY. THAT'S A GOOD POINT TO FURTHER COMMISSIONER CHESNEY'S COMMENT. IF THIS WAS SOMETHING WE WANTED TO DO FOR NURSING PROGRAM WE ONE OF THE BEST NURSING PROGRAMS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS SO WHY WOULDN'T WE FUND SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP THAT AS WELL?

>> YES, COMMISSIONER. RECALLED THAT THE BILL CAME AS A OUTGROWTH OF THE EMERGENCY MEDICINE PROGRAM WITH A VISION WRITTEN INTO THE AGREEMENT THAT WE WOULD DO A PHYSICIAN NEEDS ASSESSMENT IN THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH PRELIMINARY INFORMATION FROM THEM EVEN THOUGH IT IS GOING THROUGH THE VETTING PROCESS THERE ARE NUMEROUS NEEDS FOR MEDICAL PROFESSIONS IN THE COMMUNITY. I WOULD SUGGEST A MORE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO IS TO DO THESE IN STEPS AND LET'S ADDRESS THE PHYSICIAN NEEDS AND STUFF WE HAVE BECAUSE THEY ARE EVIDENT.

>> I AGREE, OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT WE STRESS THE FACT THIS NEEDS TO BE OPT IN OR OPT OUT. PROGRAM SO IF FUNDS RUN SHORT WE CAN DECIDE NOT TO DO THAT. EVERYBODY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT'S ALL

I HAVE, THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER MAREZ I BELIEVE

YOU HAVE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. >> SO I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING.

WE ARE ALL IN THE SAME ACCORD AND THAT WE KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED FOR THE COMMUNITY. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF TRAVELING TO GO TO OTHER COMMUNITIES AND THAT IS WHAT I FEEL PART OF THE BIRTH OF THIS WAS , THE LITERAL EMERGENCY THAT WE HAD WITH THE POTENTIAL OF LOSING EMERGENCY ROOM PHYSICIANS OR THE PROGRAM BEING CUT BACK IN STEPS THE JUDGE TOOK TO CREATE THE COMMITTEE. THAT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY AND I SERVED ON AS COCHAIRS AND THAT YOU, JOHNNY WERE A MEMBER OF AND YOU WERE BROUGHT ON LATER TO JOIN. OVERALL, THIS IS WHAT WE

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HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SO THERE'S NO CONTROVERSY IN THAT.

I DO AGREE THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAIL, THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN. HOW EFFECTIVELY HAS THIS EXPLANATION BEEN PRESENTED TO LEGISLATION OR THE LEGISLATIVE TEAM? HOW DOES THE BILL GET CRAFTED IN A WAY THAT THERE IS NONE MISINTERPRETING IT AND DO ALL SYSTEMS HAVE EQUAL ACCESS? THOSE ARE SOME OF MY CONCERNS, BUT MY MAIN QUESTION, ISN'T FIRST COME FIRST SERVE? WHO HAS THE BEST PLAN? WHO ULTIMATELY DECIDES? THE BOARD WE

APPOINT? >> COMMISSIONER BECAUSE IT IS THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT FUNDS IT WOULD BE THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD THAT WOULD NEED TO MAKE THE DECISION. IF THE BOARD IS GOING ABOUT SETTING PRIORITIES OF EYE NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BASED ON ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE WE HAVE AND WHAT THE PHYSICIAN NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS. MR. DOMINGUEZ IS RIGHT, GASTROENTEROLOGY CLEARLY NEEDS A COMMUNITY. THESE TRAINING PROGRAMS HAVE STEPS SO GASTROENTEROLOGISTS HAVE TO BE INTERNAL MEDICINE PHYSICIANS FIRST . SO THEY GO THROUGH INTERNAL MEDICINE RESIDENCY PROGRAM AND THEN THEY CAN GO THROUGH GASTROENTEROLOGY. SO THE BOARD NEEDS TO TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK AT THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT. HAVE SOME AGREEMENT BY EVERYONE THAT'S NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY. AN IMPORTANT FEATURE TO ADD AS I DON'T THINK THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT INTENDS TO FUND POSITIONS THAT THE CEOS OF THE HOSPITALS HAVE WITH OBLIGATION TO REGROUP INTO THEIR OWN HOSPITAL. THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE SPECIALTIES THAT WORK IN THE HOSPITALS, THAT BASICALLY SUPPORT THEIR ENTERPRISE AND AT THE SAME TIME TAKE CARE OF NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T ENVISION THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD WILL WANT TO STEP IN AND PUT MONEY INTO SOMETHING THAT THE HOSPITALS WOULD'VE PUT MONEY INTO ON THEIR OWN BECAUSE THEY NEEDED SPECIALTIES OR THE NEEDED SERVICES ADDRESSED. SO I AM BELIEVING WHAT THE BOARD IS GOING TO DO IS TO SORT OF DO A WRAPAROUND OF THE HOSPITALS ALREADY DO FOR THEIR OWN RECRUITMENT AND ADD SPECIALTIES INTO THE COMMUNITIES AS WELL AS EXPAND THE RESIDENCY PROGRAMS BEYOND WHAT THE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS DO ALREADY.

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

MY QUESTION IS HOW FAIR WILL THE PROCESS BE AND IS A GIVE PREFERENCE TO ONE OR THE OTHER? THAT'S MY CONCERN. YOU FEEL THAT'S ALREADY ADDRESSED THE NUMBER TO GO WITH THIS. IT'S A

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NO-BRAINER WE HAVE BEEN SEEING THE QUITE A WHILE I'M GLAD WE HAVE LEGISLATION THAT MOVES AHEAD. BUT IF THERE IS NOT THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE GOING TO BE AND THAT'S WHERE WE WILL HAVE PUSHBACK OR WHERE THE COURT MAY HAVE HEARTBURN GOING INTO THE FUTURE THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN. THINKING OUT LOUD AS I'M TELLING YOU, BUT THAT'S, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE

ISSUES I HAVE WITH US. >> APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, THIS IS THE FIRST LEGISLATIVE SESSION WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD AND ADDRESS THIS, THE PROBLEM IS COMING UP IN LATE 2023 THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY, THE LEGISLATURE MET AFTER THAT FOR US TO TRY TO DO IT. THIS IS SORT OF PLOWING THE FIELD FOR THE FIRST TIME ISSUE FOR US AND TRYING TO WORK THROUGH IT SO ALL THE COURTS COME IN AND WILL PLAY INTO HOW THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT GOES AT THIS. I DON'T THINK THE BOARD IS GOING TO WANT TO FUND RESIDENCY POSITIONS THAT ARE RETAINED AND RECRUITED THAT THE HOSPITAL WOULD'VE ALREADY DONE ON THEIR OWN. THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO SUPPLANT WHAT THEY ARE DOING, TRYING TO WRAPAROUND AND MAKE SURE THEY HAVE SPECIALTIES IN THE COMMUNITY AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL NOT LOSING SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TAKEN OPPORTUNITY TO STEP FORWARD. THIS IS A PLAY ON THE GROUND OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ADDRESS THIS AND OUR CONCERN IS ABOUT AT THIS POINT MAKING SURE IT'S NOT MANDATORY ESSENTIALLY IT WOULD BE A UNFUNDED MANDATE ALTHOUGH WE ARE SEEKING SOME MONEY IN TERMS OF FRACTURES, THEY MAY BE GOOD FOR A YEAR, FOR ONE BIENNIUM BUT THEY'RE NOT AROUND FOREVER.

>> TRYING NOT TO GET INTO ANOTHER SUBJECT, BUT WE ARE ALL FRUSTRATED AND I'M SURE THIS STARTED WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE, MY DAUGHTER IS A JUNIOR NOW AND SHE TOOK PRACTICE AND DID PRETTY WELL ON IT SHE NEEDS A LITTLE STUDY BUT WE FEEL COMPANIES YOU WILL BE READY TO PASS THAT. WE HOPE WONDER THERE'S A CHANCE FOR HER TO COME BACK SHE'S ABLE TO GET INTO MEDICINE AND COME BACK AND SELECT A SPECIALTY WE ARE NEEDING OR JUST TO FILL THE POSITION SOMEONE AS RETIRED OR MOVED ON OR WHAT HAVE YOU. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS AS WE LOOK TO THE FUTURE 'S MEDICAL SCHOOL.

TYLER TEXAS, GRADE COMMUNITY BUT HOW DOES TYLER GET AHEAD OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND NUECES COUNTY? THE EIGHTH LARGEST CITY AND 15 LARGEST COUNTY IN THE STATE YET WE GET PUSHED ASIDE TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND I'M TIRED OF IT. TALK ABOUT GREAT RECRUITING TOOLS, HAVE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE GO TO SCHOOL HERE.

THE SAME THING WITH THE ER PROGRAM. INVEST IN THEM, THEY REALIZE THIS IS A GREAT PLACE WHEN YOU GET PAST THE HEAT.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL, SO MANY THINGS TO DO, IT'S THE SAME PRINCIPLE.

I KNOW THAT'S PART OF THE LONG-TERM GOALS SO WHEN THE SESSION IS SETTLED WE CAN WORK TOWARD 25 SESSION AS I FEEL STRONGLY WE NEED TO PURSUE THAT. ALL HANDS ON DECK TO SUPPORT.

EVERYONE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE OTHER THAN PHARMACY SCHOOL IN KINGSVILLE WE DON'T HAVE A PROFESSIONAL SCHOOL. WE HAVE GREAT ENGINEERING PROGRAMS AT LOCAL UNIVERSITIES BUT BEYOND THE AND GREAT NURSING , BUT BEYOND THAT THERE'S NOT MUCH MORE SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. MAYBE THAT CAN BE PART OF THE VISION MOVING FORWARD. OVERALL IF YOU CAN WORK THROUGH THESE ISSUES THAT I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT YOU ARE PRESENTING TO THE LEGISLATORS AND FOR US TO SUPPORT.

>> COMMISSIONER, TO YOUR COMMENT. THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT BECAUSE I FEEL WITH THIS LEGISLATION IT IS OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN THE DOOR OF HEY LOOK AT US WE HAVE A LOT TO OFFER. START LOOKING TO PUT SOMETHING HERE BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID CONROE GOT A MEDICAL SCHOOL, CONROE, TEXAS. WE GOT PASSED OVER TO THE VALLEY THE VALLEY HAS A HEALTH SCIENCE CENTER. SWEATING IT'S OUR TURN.

THIS IS SMALL BUT WE ARE GETTING IN. I FEEL LIKE WE ARE PART OF THE GAME TO SAY HEY IT'S OUR TIME.

>> IT WAS WE COULD SAY WE HAVE A PERFECT WORLD HERE BUT WE DON'T.

THINGS DON'T ALWAYS HAPPEN THE WAY WE WANT THEM TO ] TRIPS TO THE DOCTORS AND IT'S NOT REALLY ABOUT US AND OUR FAMILIES. IT'S ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE WHO HAS STORIES JUST LIKE US THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING OUT FOR. WE ARE WAY OVERDUE. THE

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CARE SOMETHING WE NEED. EDUCATION IS NEEDED FOR WHATEVER LEVEL. CHILDREN, ADULTS OR WHATEVER. RETAINING SPECIALISTS, SPECIAL DOCTORS IS ONE OF MY GOALS THAT I WILL SEE SOMEDAY HAPPEN HERE IN NUECES COUNTY. SAN ANTONIO AND AUSTIN FOR MEDICAL TRIPS. SO IT TAKES A TOLL ON THOSE OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING. WE HAVE A CHANCE TO BRING SOMETHING. IT MIGHT NOT BE A HOME RUN, MAYBE A TRIPLE , WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE. WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE. OF COURSE TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO AND WAIT A MINUTE PULLBACK, NOT GOING TO GIVE FREE RUN OF THE FIELD BUT I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE ACTUALLY START THINKING OF THINGS WE REALLY NEED. I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD FOR COMING UP WITH THIS IDEA FOR LEGISLATION TRYING TO REFINE IT A LITTLE BIT AND SAY HEY, YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYBODY OUT THERE, OTHER HOSPITALS ALSO FINALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF THIS SUCCESS SO WE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING SOME OF THE GRANTS. IT CAN BENEFIT EVERYBODY ACROSS THE BOARD NOT JUST ONE SECTOR OF NUECES COUNTY OR ONE TYPE OF MEDICINE, BUT FOR ALL TYPES OF MEDICINE, ALL TYPE OF SPECIALISTS. SO I WANT TO COMMEND THE BOARD FOR DOING THIS . I LOOK AT THIS AND FOR THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS EVER SINCE EMERGENCY ROOM , I THINK IN THE LONG RUN THIS WILL BENEFIT A LOT HAVING SPECIALTIES . BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THEM. YOU KNOW AND SO I THINK THAT TO MY SUPPORT WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT SAY HERE IT GO WITH WHAT YOU'VE GOT, WE WILL BE WATCHING, MONITORING TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT RIGHT. SO I CAN I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR AT LEAST THINKING ABOUT IT. YES, BRING HOME WHAT WE CAN, LET'S DO IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THINK IT. >> COMMISSIONERS WE ARE HERE TODAY TO REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT OF LEGISLATION TO GO FORWARD TO DO

THIS. >> MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND WITH THE DIRECTION FROM TODAY'S

COURT AS WELL. >> I HAVE A COUPLE MORE COMMENTS. JOHNNY MADE A COUPLE COMMENTS TWICE THAT I'VE GREAT TREPIDATION ABOUT BASED ON EXPERIENCES I HAVE HAD OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AND THAT IS WHERE YOU SAID YOU DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO BE SITUATION WHERE THEY COME ASK FOR THINGS THEY HAVE TO DO ANYWAY. I DON'T HAVE, AND DO YOU BELIEVE THAT AND I BELIEVE YOU WHEN YOU SAY THAT AND I BELIEVE YOUR BOARD WHEN YOU SAY THAT, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT BASED ON EXPERIENCE I HAVE HAD BASED ON THE REASON WE ARE HERE. AND I DO THINK IT CAN BE A SYSTEM EASILY ABUSED AND ENTITIES COULD COME IN AND SAY WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO IT SO YOU ALL DO IT. THAT IS A GREAT CONCERN TO ME. SO I WOULD TAKE REALLY CAREFUL WHEN YOU SAY THAT KIND OF THING BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW , I KNOW YOU BELIEVE AND I'M NOT BEING CRITICAL OF YOU OR THE BOARD BECAUSE I'M SO HAPPY WITH THE ATTEMPT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO ON THIS. I THINK IF YOU'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET THIS PASSED BECAUSE IT'S A LONG WAY FROM BEING PASSED AND IT'S HARD TO GET THE BILL PASSED IN THE LEGISLATURE IT'S A LOT EASIER TO KILL SOMETHING. THIS IS JUST A STEP IF IT DOES GET TO THAT STEP STRONGLY CONSIDER THE OTHER ENTITIES FIRST BEFORE SPOHN BECAUSE SPOHN HAS BEEN TO THE TROUGH AND NEVER GOT IN MILLIONS GIVEN TO THEM AS A GIFT TO KEEP A PROGRAM THEY SHOULD OF KEPT ANYWAY AND YOU HAD OBLIGATION TO KEEP THE RESIDENCY PROGRAMS AND THEY WERE NOT DO THAT SO I WOULD HOPE WHEN YOU'RE EQUALIZING

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THIS, EQUAL TO ME DOESN'T MEAN EVERYBODY STARTS AT SQUARE ONE, THE BOARD WILL TAKE BACK FROM MY REFLECTION I AM ONE PERSON AND I GET THERE WILL BE DISAGREEMENT WITH OTHER PEOPLE FROM THE COURT ON THAT BUT MY INFO WOULD BE COUNT THE FACT THEY HAVE ARTIE GOT 21 MILLION BUCKS SO I WOULD HOPE THE OTHER ENTITIES, THE HURDLES CAN BE GOTTEN OVER AND THOSE ENTITIES WOULD FIRST AND FOREMOST HAVE A SHOT BECAUSE EQUAL MEANS YOU HAVE TO COUNT THE 20 MILLION ALREADY GIVEN SO I WOULD HOPE THAT WOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. OTHERWISE I SUPPORT THE INTENT AND THE CONCEPT, I APPRECIATE THE BOARD GOING FORWARD AND YOU HAVE HEARD OUR INTENT IS WE WANT A FAIR PROCESS. FAIR IS A DEFINITION IN

THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER. >> MY THOUGHT JOHNNY IS YOU START EVERYBODY AT SQUARE ONE. IS ICING 26 MINUTES.

>> THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID. >> THAT'S NOT OUR DECISION.

>> LET ME FINISH . >> TWICE, THAT'S TWICE FOR YOU

NOW. >> GOING BACK TO SQUARE ONE EVERYBODY STARTS IN THE SAME PLACE.

>> WE ARE GOING TO GET INTO OTHER DISCUSSIONS AND LET ME JUST STRESS, WE APPOINT, SO I HOPE YOUR BOARD HEARS THAT LOUD AND CLEAR. SO YOU BETTER CONFER WITH THE COURTS BECAUSE OF THEY DON'T, APPOINTMENTS COME QUICKLY AROUND HERE AND REAPPOINTMENTS SO CONSIDER THAT. I DO NOT BELIEVE THEY HAVE THEY WANT TO GET INTO OTHER ISSUES THEY FILMED THEIR NOSE AT THE COURT AT THE DEADLINE TO PASS THAT MONEY THAT THEY WERE HOLDING ONTO AS A COURT DON'T STIR ME UP BECAUSE I WAS FEELING GOOD UNTIL NOW. AND THEN, I AM THANKFUL COMMISSIONER GOT BREAKFAST OR LUNCH I'M STILL WAITING TO MEET WITH DOM.

COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IS STILL WAITING. ON THE COMMITTEE THE JUDGE SELECTED, STILL WAITING. JUST BE A LITTLE CAREFUL ON WHAT WE STIR UP. BE A LITTLE CAREFUL ON THAT.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO PROCEED WITH THE GUIDANCE FROM THE COURT. 1012 ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES

[5. Discuss and consider approval of amended Interlocal Cooperation Agreement between Nueces County and Nueces County Hospital District relating to the provision of certain County employee benefits, including but not limited to health insurance to Hospital District employees and other related matters; initial term October 1, 2024 - September 30, 2025.]

UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. I DON'T NUMBER FIVE WHILE YOU ARE STILL STANDING DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AMENDED INTERLOCAL COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY AND THE COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT RELATED TO PROVISION OF EMPLOYEE BENEFITS INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO HEALTH INSURANCE. THIS WAS PASSED JANUARY 8 IN THE CORE ALREADY PASSED THIS. A COUPLE OF MY KNEE -- MINOR WORDING CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN SEEN AND APPROVED. THIS WOULD GET IT FINALIZED AND SIGNATURES BECAUSE

WE VOTE TO DO SO. >> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD HAS APPROVED THIS ALREADY. I PUT MY SIGNATURE ON THE AGREEMENT. THE AMENDED AGREEMENT CLEANS UP SOME DETAILS THAT WERE ABSENT OR WERE NOT CLEAR IN THE PRIOR AGREEMENT . BASICALLY, THE AGREEMENT COVERS THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT PAYING THE COUNTY FOR PROVISION OF HEALTH INSURANCE, LIFE INSURANCE, VISION AND DENTAL SERVICES. AND THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION IN THE AGREEMENT ABOUT HOW THE HEALTH CLAIMS ARE COVERED, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE FOCUS IS TO MAKE SURE THE COUNTY IS NOT OUT ANY MONEY FOR PAYING FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT EMPLOYEES BENEFITS, PARTICULARLY THE

HEALTH BENEFITS. >> ONE OF THE WORDING CHANGES IS BASICALLY JUST CLARIFYING YOU ARE PAYING THE ACTUAL CHARGE THAT IS NEGOTIATED BETWEEN THE INSURANCE COMPANY AND THE OTHER NOT JUST PING THE INITIAL CHARGE BECAUSE THEY GO BACK AND FORTH WITH WHAT ACTUALLY GETS BILLED.

>> CREDIT, WHATEVER AMOUNT SHOWS UP AFTER THEY GO TO THE DISCOUNTS AND THE DISALLOWANCE IS WHAT WE PAY IS BASED ON WHAT YOU ALL PAY SO YOU ALL DO NOT PAY WHAT THE BILL IS. NO ONE IN HEALTHCARE DOES THAT, BUT WE PAY WHAT YOU ALL PAY AND WE KEEP YOU ALL COVERED. IN ADDITION TO MONTHLY PAYMENTS. AS I SAID BEFORE WE ADD ADDITIONAL 10% ONTO THAT WITH SOME RECONCILIATION ALONG THE WAY WHERE THE 10% IS NOT ENOUGH TO COVER THE CLAIM IN THERE THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT STEPS UP TO COVER THOSE ALL THE WAY TO THE STOP LOSS. I THINK THE STOPLOSS IS 425,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

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>> THEY COVER UP TO THE STOP LOSS.

>> THAT'S IMPORTANT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG DISCUSSION, NOT GIVING THE DISTRICT ANYTHING SO THEY WERE ABLE TO STEP UP AND DO THE FINANCING.

>> MAKE A MOTION TO PASS. MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, AS

[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]

WELL. WE HAVE A FEW MORE MINUTES IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ANYTHING THAT ANY COMMISSIONER WISHES TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE AS SUBMITTED.

>> SECOND. >> I THOUGHT YOU WANTED TO PULL.

>> YES, V. >> LISA DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING

THAT NEEDS GREAT VACATION? >> YES.

>> RETRACT MOTION TO APPROVE. >> JUST PULLING V?

>> LISA HAS SOMETHING ELSE WITH A CORRECTION IN CONSENT?

>> YES THAT'S CORRECT. PREVIOUSLY AT THE REQUEST.

>> HOLD ON WE ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA ITEM HAVE TO PULL THE

ITEM. >> I'M SORRY, IT WAS 2 A. I

APOLOGIZE. >> 2 A.

>> AMENDED MOTION TO INCLUDE PASSING ALL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS

EXCEPT FOR A AND V AS IN VICTOR. >> I THOUGHT YOU SAID B.

>> I WILL SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE

[A. Authorize payment of bills - Regular bill summaries dated March 21, 2025, and Veterans & Community Support Services; Received check registers for Exceptions & Utilities dated March 07, 2025; Payroll Garnishments dated February 28, 2025; and payments for suppliers Exceptions List dated February 19, 21, 28; Receive check registers for the previously authorized payment of bills for the Regular, Special Motions, and Veterans & Community Support Services dated February 21 & 28, 2025.]

MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. LISA WHAT IS THE CORRECTION?

>> YES PREVIOUSLY AT THE REQUEST OF COMMISSIONERS COURT WE BEGAN TO PULL SOCIAL SERVICE PAYMENTS INTO A SEPARATE CHECK REGISTER GIVEN SOCIAL SERVICES WAS DISSOLVED WITH ONLY PAYMENTS FOR THE STATUTORILY REQUIRED BURIALS WE REQUEST PERMISSION TO MERGE SOCIAL SERVICE PAYMENTS NOW THE VETERAN AND COMMUNITY SUPPORT SERVICES CHECK REGISTER WITH THE REGULAR CHECK REGISTER. WE SEPARATED THEM OUT. SINCE WE DON'T DO THAT.

>> THEY WANT THAT BACK IN THE REGISTER SO THERE ARE NO MORE GRANTS OTHER THAN THE BURIAL AND THAT'S NOT A GRANT THAT THE

COUNTY FUNDS. >> SO IN EFFECT WHAT YOU TRYING

TO DO? >> JUST MOVE THE STATUTORILY REQUIRED BURIALS INTO THE REGULAR CHECK REGISTER INSTEAD OF RECORDING SEPARATELY AND PULLING THEM OUT.

>> YOU ARE SAYING UNDER VETERAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT?

>> YES IT WOULD SHOW. >> WE PULLED THEM OUT BECAUSE OF QUESTIONS BEFORE TO SEPARATE THOSE. THERE'S NO MORE FUNDING

SO WE CAN DO IT ALTOGETHER. >> YES OKAY, THANK YOU. SO

MOVED. >> MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE PULLING THEM BACK TO APPROVE ITEM A AND ALLOW THEM BACK IN

THE REGULAR REGISTER. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH I

APPRECIATE THAT. >> IF THAT'S EMOTION I WILL SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. ITEM

[V. Rescind motion for approval of request from Coastal Bend Tidal Wave, LLC softball team to utilize the RMB Ball Field. ]

V . >> I WANTED TO PULL THIS TO SEPARATE BECAUSE I KNOW LAST YEAR COURT HAD APPROVE REQUEST FROM THE SOFTBALL TEAM TO UTILIZE THE, WHAT WE KNOW AS THE AVIATOR BALLFIELD. THERE WERE INDIVIDUAL STANDALONE CONTRACTS APPROVED THAT A LOT FOR A HANDFUL OF GAMES TO BE PLAYED THERE AND BY THE WAY, THEY WERE COLLEGIATE LEVEL PLAYERS WHO HAD JUST WEEKS PRIOR BEEN FINISHING UP THEIR COLLEGE CAREERS PLAYING IN THE COLLEGE WORLD SERIES AND WE HAD A LOT OF PLAYERS ON THE TEAM HERE LOCALLY THAT WERE VISITING FROM OTHER TEAMS. IT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS, BUT THE CONTRACT WAS NEVER FULLY EXECUTED. SO THIS MOTION IS TO RESCIND THE APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST TO MAKE SURE THIS IS CLARIFIED BECAUSE IT WAS BASICALLY FOR A FULL YEAR. BUT, IT WAS NEVER SIGNED. THERE WAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT PARTS THAT NEVER GOT COMPLETE SO WE WANT TO

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MAKE SURE THERE'S NO QUESTION THIS PROCESS IS DONE AND IT LEADS TO PREPARING FOR OUR PROPERTY AUDIT THAT WE HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ON AS FAR AS FUTURE USE FOR THE BALLFIELDS.

WANTED TO PULL IT ASIDE FOR ANY DISCUSSION AND CLARIFICATION.

>> I SECOND YOUR MOTION. >> MOTION TO RESCIND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. SORRY

COMMISSIONER. >> A POINT OF INFORMATION WITH RESPECT TO THE FIELD. WE HAVE MADE ARRANGEMENTS AND I HAVE SPOKEN TO COMMISSIONER MAREZ BEFORE WE EMBARKED ON IT AND WE ALSO SPOKE WITH THE SOFTBALL LEAGUE AND THEY WERE VERY MUCH IN FAVOR UNTIL WE GET THROUGH OLD BELT PARK FINISHED, THE OLD BELT WOMEN'S SOFTBALL PROGRAM IS GOING TO UTILIZE THE PARK AND THEY HAVE GONE AND USED VOLUNTEERS TO DO A WHOLE BUNCH OF WORK OUT THERE. CUT THE GRASS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF. WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND THE SOFTBALL PROGRAM WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE BECAUSE THEY THINK IT IS A GREAT FEED INTO THE PROGRAM. THANK YOU ALL I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW.

>> MOTION AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. WE HAD SOME PEOPLE ONLINE AND I SAW ONE LEAVE FOR THE ENERGY SAVINGS ARE THEY STILL HERE IS ONE STILL HERE? I WAS GOING TO TRY TO PULL THIS UP JUST TO LET EVERYONE ELSE KNOW IF YOU'RE SITTING HERE WATCHING WE WILL BE RECESSING AFTER THIS TO GO TO ANOTHER EVENT IN TOWN AND WE WILL NOT BE

[7. Receive update from Juan Pimentel, Public Works Director, on all Energy Savings projects and all related matters. ]

BACK UNTIL 1:00.

>> DID SUBMIT THE SUPPORT LATE YESTERDAY ABOUT FIVE A CLOCK.

YOU DO HAVE A COPY THIS MORNING .

>> OKAY. I HAD NOT SEEN IT YET. I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAD BEEN VERIFIED. WE HAVE NOT HIRED ANYONE TO TAKE OVER THE ABM

PROJECT. >> THAT'S CORRECT. JUDGE, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW , WE HAVE JCI AND ABM ON ZOOM. BEFORE WE START WITH GIVING YOU A SUMMARY OF THE ENERGY SAVINGS, I WANTED TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THE ITEMS ON THE REPORT. ONE OF THEM IS ON PAGE 3. THERE ARE TWO PHASES ON THE JCI PROJECT. ONE WAS AWARDED BACK IN 2010, JULY, AND THE OTHER AWARDED IN DECEMBER 2013.

THE VERIFICATION STARTED BACK IN -- ON APRIL 1, 2011. THAT ONE IS A 15 YEAR VERIFICATION SAVINGS. AND THEN, THE PHASE 2 WAS APRIL 1, 2015. IT WAS FOR 15 YEARS ALSO. THE FIRST ONE WILL END IN 2026, PHASE 1. PHASE 2 IS IN 2030. LOOKING AT PAGE 5 OF THE REPORT WHERE IT STATES THE VERIFIED SAVINGS UNDER YELLOW .

THOSE ARE LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS. THE AWARDING ON THE DOCUMENT IS CORRECT. THERE WAS A VERIFIED SAVINGS OF $162,613. THE BASELINE, OR GUARANTEED SAVINGS, IS 1,000,125 $903 . A VARIANCE

OF $36,709. YOU GO BACK TO PAGE >> YOU SAY PAGE 5. I HAVE TWO

PRESENTATIONS. >> THIS IS THE JCI REPORT.

>> THE ONE IN YOUR BINDER. THE YELLOW IS THE NUMBER. NOW HE IS GOING TO ANOTHER PAGE. WHAT PAGE?

>> PAGE 20. UNDER THE MEASUREMENT VERIFICATION

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DISCUSSION ITEMS. UNDER THE FIRST BULLET UNDER I.T. , AND WE WILL COORDINATE THIS WITH JCI, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS STATES NINE, BUT THERE IS ONLY FOUR. AND THEN, ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, FOR THE CHILLERS, THOSE WERE INSTALLED FOUR YEARS AGO. WE HAVE BRAND NEW ONES THAT WERE INSTALLED

>> WEREN'T YOU GOING TO HAVE TO MEET WITH BOTH GROUPS OR SOMETHING? BECAUSE THE CHILLERS WERE INSTALLED BY ABM -- IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID IN JUNE? THERE NEEDS TO BE A MEETING BETWEEN

THE TWO OF THEM. >> YES, MADAM. THERE NEEDS TO BE A MEETING BETWEEN ABM AND JCI. THEY DID IT FOR THE BASELINE --

>> BOTH OF THEM TAKING CREDIT FOR ONE THING.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> IT NEEDS CLARIFICATION. NOT SAYING ANYBODY IS DOING ANYTHING.

>> JUST CLARIFYING. YES, MADAM.

>> THIS IS CHARLES TUCKER . IF I MAY INTERJECT REAL QUICK. YOU ARE RIGHT. THERE IS COORDINATION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. WE ARE MEASURING ENERGY SAVINGS FOR THE COURTHOUSE AND THE JAIL THROUGH THE UTILITY METER ITSELF. THE WORK THAT ABM HAS RECENTLY DONE AT THE COURTHOUSE AND AT THE JAIL AFFECTS THAT. AND SO, THERE IS COORDINATION . I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH SEVERAL OTHERS OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF NOW. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING BACK AND FORTH AND TRY TO PARSE OUT. I DON'T WANT TO CLAIM SAVINGS THAT IS ABM SAVINGS, AND I DON'T WANT THE COUNTY TO GET DOUBLE SAVINGS REPORTS. THERE IS SOME COORDINATION WE ARE WORKING THROUGH . IT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE ARE AWARE OF. WE ARE TRYING TO EQUITABLY AND ACCURATELY PARTS IT OUT. IT IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT. EVERYTHING IS THE CHECK -- ELECTRIC AND GAS METERS. THERE'S LITTLE BIT MORE COORDINATION WE NEED TO DO. BUT, YES, MADAM, WE ARE AWARE THAT THAT IS A CHALLENGE AND SOMETHING WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH THE TEAM ON.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. YES. >> I'M SORRY. CHARLES, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE REPORT.

>> YES, BRIEF. >> VERY BRIEF. WE EXCEEDED THE ENERGY SAVINGS FOR YOUR 12. WORKING WITH EVERYBODY NOW TO GET THE UTILITY BILLS TO GET AN UPDATE FOR 13. I DO NOT ANTICIPATE ANY ISSUES WITH IT. WE HAVE BEEN ON TRACK FOR MANY YEARS. AGAIN, THE CHALLENGE IS GOING TO BE ACCOUNTING FOR, CORRECTLY AND EQUITABLY, COUNTY FOR ABM SAVINGS SO WE ARE NOT TAKING CREDIT FOR THEIR WORK, AND WE ARE NOT GIVEN THE -- THE COUNTY HAS GOTTEN EXTRA SAVINGS THEY REALLY DIDN'T SHE. A LITTLE BIT OF COORDINATION WILL WORK THERE. I WILL BE WORKING WITH ABM AND WITH ENGINEERING TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT IN THE MOST EQUITABLE AND CORRECT WAY POSSIBLE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S REALLY FOR MUCH FOR ME TO ADD UNLESS THERE IS A

QUESTION, A SPECIFIC QUESTION. >> THANKS, CHARLES. JUDGE, WE ALSO HAVE KIM DAVIS WITH ABM -- TIM DAVIS WITH ABM. JUST A BRIEF

UPDATE. >> PLEASE. THANK YOU.

>> YES. RYAN WALKER IS THE ENGINEER FOR ABM. HE WILL TALK

ABOUT THE THE SAVINGS. >> THANK YOU JUDGE , COMMISSIONERS , AND THE COURT. I AM THE VERIFICATION ENGINEER ASSOCIATED WITH THE ENERGY PROJECT. JUST VERY BRIEFLY, WE FINISHED UP THIS ENERGY CONSERVATION PROJECT IN OCTOBER 2023. MY REPORT COVERS THROUGH YEAR ONE . VERY SIMPLY, I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD PROJECT ON HER HANDS. NOTWITHSTANDING THE COORDINATION BETWEEN JCI AND ABM TO IRON OUT ANY ISSUES. THROUGH THE END OF YEAR ONE, WE PROJECT A TOTAL OF JUST OVER 350 RUSH $345,000 IN ENERGY SAVINGS, IN ADDITION TO ANOTHER 300,000 IN OPERATIONAL SAVINGS. THIS NUMBER IS ROUGHLY 55,000 IN EXCESS OF THE GUARANTEE. WE PROJECT, GOING FORWARD, THAT THE PROJECT WILL CONTINUE TO DO WELL. 52% OF THE SAVINGS CAME FROM LIGHTING.

ANOTHER 21% FROM WATER CONSERVATION. ANOTHER 16% FROM A METHOD TO REDUCE THE OVERALL MAKEUP WATER IN THE COOLING TEST TOWERS. ALL OTHERS REMAIN 11% OF THE SAVINGS. WE USED , IN

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CONTRAST TO JCI , MEASUREMENT VERIFICATION PROTOCOL WHERE WE DO MEASUREMENTS BEFORE AND AFTER THE RETROFIT. ONCE AGAIN, I DO LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE CAN COORDINATE REPORTING THOSE STATEMENTS. THAT, BASICALLY, IS THE TOTALITY OF THE REPORT. WE WILL COME OUT EVERY YEAR TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR MOST OF THE ECM AND ADDRESS ANY ISSUES ON SITE AND PROVIDE AN ANNUAL REPORT FOR YOU.

>> AND JUAN WILL BE BRINGING THE CONTRACTOR BACK TO VERIFY THESE NUMBERS AFTER YOU ALL MEET TOGETHER. I DO KNOW THAT JUAN WANTS US TO BRING THIS BACK AFTER LUNCH BECAUSE HE HAS SOME QUESTIONS. I KNOW WE HAVE TO LEAVE. IF WE CAN, JUAN, YOU STICK AROUND. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR SCHEDULES LOOK LIKE. I AM VERY SORRY. BUT WE DO NEED TO BREAK, OR WE ARE GOING TO BE LATE. I WOULD CALL FOR A RECESS . IT IS 11:30 FIRE -- 11:34 AND WE WILL BE BACK AT 1:00. IF YOU CAN'T GET BACK, I UNDERSTAND. IE RECORDING. IT SAYS RECORDING BUT I DIDN'T HEAR THE VIDEO. WE ARE GOOD. THANK YOU, CONNIE. WE ARE BACK FROM A RECESS. IT IS 1:24

[10. Discuss and consider the formation of a County-run Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ) in the London area to include the City of Corpus Christi and any other entity that would qualify and desire to be a part of it.]

POINT >> JUDGE, CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE AN ITEM THAT I PUT ON, THAT I'D LIKE TO BRING BACK

ANOTHER TIME? >> YES YOU CAN.

>> THREE A 10. I'D LIKE TO TABLE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING,

PLEASE. >> SECOND YOUR MOTION, ALL IN

FAVOR SAY AYE. >> HI.

>> JUDGE ALSO, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT RINGING NUMBER SEVEN BACK BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH JUAN OFF-LINE ON THAT, SO IF EVERYBODY IS OKAY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE NUMBER SEVEN BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING AS WELL OR POSSIBLY BE SECOND ONE IN APRIL, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE ME A WHILE TO GET THE STUFF VERIFIED AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEND A LOT OF THE COURT'S TIME TODAY.

>> WE HEARD A PORTION OF IT SO DO WE NEED TO TABLE AND BRING IT BACK OR YOU WILL JUST TALK TO THEM AND BRING IT BACK WHEN WE

HAVE THE VERIFIED RESULTS? >> JUST TABLE IT SO I DON'T --

>> FORGET. >> OR BRING IT BACK TO THE SECOND MEETING IN APRIL, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> MR. PIMENTEL, YOU ARE BACK WITH THAT --

>> WOULD YOU JUST MAKE SURE TO PUT IT ON ONE? I DIDN'T PUT THIS ON TO BEGIN WITH SO MAKE SURE IT GETS PUT ON. SOMEBODY WILL

>>

>> SHE'S ALWAYS IN MY MEETINGS. THEY ALWAYS COME IN.

VERIFICATION ON THAT. >> I JUST MADE A MOTION TO TABLE

THAT. >> SECOND.

>> ALL THE MEETINGS. YES . >> I THINK THE JUDGE WAS -- I'M JUST LETTING HIM KNOW THAT I'M DOING IT.

>> IT'S ALL RIGHT. IT'S A MOTION TO TABLE POINT WE ARE NOT REALLY SUPPOSED TO DISCUSS IT AND BRING IT BACK. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> HI. >> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION

PASSES. >> YES OR.

>> DID ANYBODY CHECK WITH MR. GONZALES? WE SAID 1:00. IT'S

1:30. >> MOVING ON TO GOING BACK TO THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM 2, DO WE NEED ALL FIVE OR JUST FIVE PRESENT? BECAUSE IT'S THE PUBLIC FINANCE AUTHORITY. SHOULD WE WAIT TO COME BACK ON IT WHEN HE GETS BACK IN HERE?

>>

[2. Discuss and consider Resolution Approving the Financing by the Public Finance Authority of Educational Facilities Located Within Nueces County, Texas, solely for the purposes of section 147(f) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended; and related matters. The Bonds shall not constitute a liability, indebtedness, or an obligation of Nueces County, Texas, nor shall any of the assets of Nueces County, Texas be pledged to the payment of the Bonds.]

HELLO. WHEN WE COME BACK -- ON TO ITEM 2 AND DISCUSSING A RESOLUTION BY THE PUBLIC FINANCE AUTHORITY OF EDUCATIONAL AUTHORITIES LOCATED WITHIN NOISES COUNTY, TEXAS, FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE OF 1986 AS AMENDED AND RELATED MATTERS AND IT'S REQUIRED THAT THE BOND SHALL NOT CONSTITUTE A LIABILITY, INDEBTEDNESS, OR AN OBLIGATION ON NOOSES COUNTY, NOR SHALL ANY OF THE ASSETS OF NUECES COUNTY,

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TEXAS, BE PLEDGED TO THE BONDS.

>> THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THAT WE ARE JUST AS THE AUTHOR RISING, DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT, CONSTANCE? I KNOW YOU EXPLAINED IT TO ME VERY WELL.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. FOR THE RECORD, CONSTANCE SANCHEZ, BUDGET OFFICER LIAISON AND THIS ITEM IS CONSIDERED A CONDUIT THAT. IT'S NOT THAT PER SE FOR NUECES COUNTY. WE WOULD HAVE TO DISCLOSE IT IN OUR ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT AS A NOTE BUT IT DOESN'T HIT THE BALANCE SHEET OR THE INCOME STATEMENT.

IT'S JUST AN AVENUE THAT'S ALLOWED ENTITIES TO UTILIZE YOUR GOOD CREDIT RATING TO ISSUE TAX-EXEMPT BONDS FOR THEM TO GET

A LOW INTEREST RATE. >> MOTION TO APPROVE.

[3. Discuss and consider public application to close/discontinue/abandon a proposed road to be called West River View Drive.]

>> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER 3, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PUBLIC APPLICATION TO CLOSE, DISCONTINUE, ABANDON A PROPOSED ROAD TO BE CALLED WEST RIVERVIEW DRIVE.

>> YOUR HONOR, THIS IS IN MY PRECINCT AND THIS IS -- IT REALLY SEEMS STRANGE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE A ROAD THAT NEVER WAS OPENED BUT FOR A VERY LONG TIME THERE HAVE BEEN, I GUESS BELIEF THAT THE COUNTY HAD A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY ON THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY AND IT WAS SUPPOSEDLY HAD BEEN DEDICATED BY THE DEVELOPER, AND THE LONG STORY SHORT, WE'VE CHECKED WITH EVERYBODY, JUAN HAS CHECKED HIS RECORDS. THE COUNTY NEVER RECEIVED ANY KIND OF A COMMITMENT FROM ANYBODY ON THIS, THAT WE NEVER TOOK THIS AS A ROAD OR A EASEMENT OR ANYTHING. SO I WANTED TO ONCE AND FOR ALL GET ON THE AGENDA THAT THE COUNTY HAS NO RIGHT-OF-WAY OR ANYTHING ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY ENDED HE LONGS TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE. AND THANK YOU TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR HELPING ME CLEAR THIS UP, AS WELL. WE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME TRYING TO HASH THIS OUT. I WOULD MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS AND ONCE AND TO US? IS THAT THE ISSUE? OKAY,

THANK YOU. >> WE CLEARED IT UP NOW, WE HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION SO WHAT WAS THE HANGUP BEFORE? I NEED SOME

HISTORY. >> THERE IS NOTHING THERE. THERE WAS NO ROAD THERE. ONE THOUGHT IT HAD BEEN RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THE COUNTY AND WAS GOING TO USE IT AS A DRAINAGE EASEMENT AND THEN WHEN HE STARTED TO WORK ON IT, THE LAWYERS FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS STARTED CONTACTING THE COUNTY AND REMINDING US IT WAS NEVER DEDICATED TO THE COUNTY WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL THE RECORDS AND THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

>> SO WHY DID WE NOT DO SOMETHING, I CANNOT REMEMBER IS

THAT THE STICKING POINT? >> THAT IS THE STICKING POINT ,

IT WAS PRETTY MUCH ON PAPER? >> A HANDSHAKE KIND OF DEAL.

>> YOU HAD CONCERNS BEFORE YOU HAVE NO MORE CONCERNS?

>> THE ONLY THING WE ARE THINKING ABOUT IS IN THE FUTURE IT COULD BE USED AS A DRAINAGE DITCH AND/OR FUTURE DRAINAGE WAY FOR THE FUTURE. IN THIS CASE SINCE AS YOU ARE SAYING IT

DOESN'T BELONG TO US. >> THE ROAD DOES. IF YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU'RE RECOMMENDING THAT'S ALL I WANT YOU TO SAY.

>> YOU DON'T TRUST ME? >> BEFORE HE DID NOT RECOMMEND.

BEFORE HE CAME IN AND SAID DON'T DO THIS.

>> YES AND THE ONLY REASON IS IT COULD BE A FUTURE DRAINAGE WAY

IN THE FUTURE. >> YES MA'AM.

>> ALSO THERE WAS A CLAUSE OR STATUTE AFTER SO MANY YEARS IT COULD BE REQUESTED TO TAKE BACK BUT IT NEVER WAS GIVEN IN THE

FIRST PLACE? >> IT WAS NEVER GIVEN.

>> SO THE OTHER PART WAS MOVED. >> I CALLED THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER AND ASKED HIM AND HE SAID WE NEVER DEDICATED ANY OF

THAT PROPERTY TO THE COUNTY. >> WE WENT OUT AND DROVE IT WHEN

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I WENT OUT BEFORE AND THEY HAD PUT THE LARGE CULVERTS AND DRAINAGE THINGS IN TO ELIMINATE THE CONCERN FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THEY WERE TAKEN CARE OF THAT. >> IF THE COUNTY WANTED TO UTILIZE OF RIGHT-OF-WAY OR ANY KIND OF ROAD WE WOULD HAVE TO GO

TAKE THE PROPERTY. >> YES.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON ITEM 6 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE SELECTION OF ANY OPPOSED? ARCHITECTS TO PROVIDE ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING DESIGN SERVICE FOR THE RISK OKAYING PAVILION NEW FACILITY.

>> THAT NEEDS TO GO TO EXECUTIVE. I BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME LEGAL THINGS. THAT'S PART OF WHAT SHE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT.

THAT'S PART OF WHAT SHE WANTS TO GO OVER.

>> I DID NOT HEAR THE QUESTION. >> THE CONTRACT. I THINK THE

[8. Discuss and consider the Director of Human Resources job description and post job for applications, and all related matters.]

MOTION. >> LOTS TO TALK ABOUT.

>> MOVING ON ITEM 8. >> WE TABLED SEVEN. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER DIRECTOR OF HUMAN VERSUS JOB DESCRIPTION AND POST JOB FOR APPLICATIONS. WE BROUGHT THIS BACK I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER PUSLEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE JOB DESCRIPTION WORKING ON FIXING THAT? AND WE ARE NOW READY TO GO OUT TO POST

>> THANK YOU TO THE ACTING INTERIM HR DIRECTOR SHE DID MOST OF THE WORK I GAVE HER ALL THE CREDIT BUT WE UPDATED THIS AND THERE WAS A SECTION AND THERE THAT WE TOOK OUT THE REQUIRED THE HR DIRECTOR TO BE ABLE TO BEND, CRAWL AND DO SOME OTHER THINGS AND I THOUGHT WE WOULD TAKE IT OUT. ANYWAY, I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT, MUCH BETTER NOW.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE WORK, MUCH APPRECIATED. MOTION TO PASS.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> IS A REPOSTING OR TIMEFRAME? >> SEVEN DAYS INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY AND WE CAN REPOST IF WE NEED TO SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO INTERVIEWS AND APPLY BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING.

[9. Discuss and consider rejecting all bids for New Driscoll Community Center (IFB No. 3295-24) and authorize Purchasing Agent to publish a new notice; and related matters.]

ITEM NUMBER NINE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REJECTING ALL BIDS FOR THE NEW DRISCOLL COMMUNITY CENTER. COMMISSIONER PUSLEY THIS

ONE IS YOURS. >> YES IT IS, THANK YOU. WE HAVE VISITED AS YOU WELL KNOW THERE IS A COMMUNITY CENTER PLANNED THERE AND FUNDING WAS BEING UTILIZED TO TAKE THAT IN BUT IT CAME IN OVER BUDGET BUT THEY DID SOME VALUE ENGINEERING AND ADDED SOME MONEY. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ OFFERED MONEY TO HELP WITH THE PROJECT BUT WE WERE STILL ALMOST $100,000 SHORT BE ABLE TO FUND THE ORIGINAL DESIGN. SO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS CANCEL THE ORIGINAL BIDS AND WE'RE GOING TO RE-SCOPE THE PROJECT, WE WILL NARROW DOWN AND COME UP WITH A MUCH SIMPLER DESIGN AND THEN GO BACK FOR BIDS ON THE NEW FACILITY HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE RANGE OF WHAT ARPA FUNDING PROVIDES. SO I WOULD MOVE WE ACCEPT THE ITEM AS SUBMITTED.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION

[11. Discuss and approve Incentive Fee for $28,800 due Global Spectrum, LP as Manager of the Nueces County Regional Fairgrounds for Fiscal Year October 2023 - September 2024 as calculated with parameters set forth in the agreement; Issue payment within (30) days following completion of the Fiscal Year End 9/30/2024 Audit as stated in 'Exhibit B" Incentive Fee section incorporated in the contract.]

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER 11 DISCUSS AND APPROVE INCENTIVE FEE 28,000 DUE TO GLOBAL SPECTRUM AS MANAGER OF THE NUECES COUNTY REGIONAL FAIRGROUNDS .

>> MOTION TO PASS. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

>> ONE QUESTION. READING THROUGH THAT WE EVALUATE THIS, WHO DOES

THE EVALUATION? >> EDWARD WILL ANSWER.

>> COMMISSIONER, MYSELF AND TERESA, WE WORKED REALLY WELL, TERESA ON THE FINANCIAL AND I AM ON THE PHYSICAL SIDE. WE DO THE WALK-THROUGH'S AND WE DO REVIEWS ON A YEARLY BASIS. AS THE JUDGE SAYS MOST IS CALCULATED BASED ON THE

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AGREEMENT. >> VERY GOOD THANK YOU.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY

[12. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving the execution of Amendment No. 1 to Work Authorization No. 2 under the Master Services Agreement between Nueces County and International Consulting Engineers (ICE) for the ARPA Precinct 4-funded Parker Pool Project (IFB - 3276-24); and related matters.]

OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER 12 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING THE EXECUTION OF AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO WORK AUTHORIZATION NUMBER TWO UNDER MASTER SERVICE AGREEMENT BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY AND ICE FOR THE ARBOR PRECINCT 4 FUNDED PARKER PULL PROJECT. COMMISSIONER

CHESNEY. >> I WILL LET EDWARD TAKE IT.

>> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS THIS IS MOSTLY A TIME DEAL SO WE ARE EXTENDING TIME ON THE PROJECT, NOT ADDITIONAL CHARGE OR

ANYTHING. >> MOTION TO PASS.

>> SO MOVED. >> MOTION AND SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION

[13. Discuss and consider reallocating $1,060,972.08 of certificate of obligation funds that remain un-committed as previously provided to Inland Parks with the redistribution of ARPA funds for the Courthouse Roof Project. $725,913.33 - County Judge $231,388.05 - Commissioner Pct. 2 $103,670.70 - Commissioner Pct. 3]

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER 13. DISCUSS AND RECOVER ALLOCATING $1,060,972 ALLOCATING $1,060,972.08 OF SERVER TO GET OF OBLIGATION FUNDS THAT REMAIN UNCOMMITTED AS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED TO THE INLAND PARKS WITH THE REDISTRIBUTION OF ARPA FUNDS FOR THE COURTHOUSE ROOF PROJECT. MONEY WE TOOK FROM ALL THREE MYSELF, PRECINCT TO AN PRECINCT 3 COMMISSIONERS. CEOS BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD THE COURTHOUSE ROOF PROJECT WOULD BE MORE THAN THE MONEY WE HAD ALLOWED. WE REQUESTED THE MONEY BACK TERESA HAS DONE THE DISTRIBUTION, SHE IS NOT HERE DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? THESE ARE THE NUMBERS GOING BACK AND COMING BACK WITH A LIST OF WHICH ONES TO CONFIRM.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> I WILL SECOND THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER

[14. Discuss and consider approval and execution of Amendment No. 2 to Work Authorization No. 1 under the Master Services Agreement between Nueces County and Levy Dykema, PPLC for ARPA Precinct 3 funded Oscar Ortiz Park Additions and Renovations Project in the amount of $70,070, and related matters.]

14 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL AND EXECUTION AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO TO WORK AUTHORIZATION NUMBER ONE . UNDER THE MASTER SERVICE AGREEMENT BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY AND LEVY DYKEMA PRECINCT 3 FUNDED OSCAR ORTIZ PARK AND THIS WAS THE 70,000 COMING THROUGH EDWARDS WITH THE LAST OF THAT DEDICATED TO THIS. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? THAT I STAYED CORRECTLY?

>> THAT'S CORRECT, SOME ADDITIONAL CIVIL ENGINEERING WAS

NEEDED. >> SO MOVED.

>> I WILL SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. OUT OF

[15. Discuss and consider award and execution of an ARPA Precinct 3-funded Contractor Agreement with RXDX, LLC for Oscar Ortiz Park Additions and Renovations project (IFB No. 3301-24) in the amount of $1,445,780.00; and related matters.]

NUMBER 15 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AWARD AND EXECUTION OF ARPA PRECINCT 3 FUNDED CONTRACT AGREEMENT WITH RXDX FOR THE OSCAR ORTIZ PARK. PRECINCT 3 , COMMISSIONER MAREZ ANYTHING ? GO

AHEAD. >> THIS IS A WONDERFUL PROJECT SOMETHING THAT IS WELL NEEDED, LIGHTING THE WALKING TRAILS, REDOING THE WALKING TRAILS I KNOW WE HAVE GOT QUITE A FEW COMPLAINTS IN REGARDS TO THE OLD WALKING TRAIL MADE OUT OF ASPHALT. IT HAS BEEN SEPARATING BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONS SO NOW WE GO TO CONCRETE AND REAR BUILDING SOME NEW BATHROOMS THAT ARE ADA COMPLIANT AS WELL AS A NEW PAVILION AND SOME OTHER SMALL IMPROVEMENTS. THAT'S THE MAJORITY. IT WILL BE WELL

RECEIVED. >> THAT'S WHAT SOMEONE ELSE ASKED. BATHROOM LIGHTS, THINGS LIKE THAT SOMEBODY ASKED WHAT ALL ARE WE DOING SO THAT'S PERFECT. DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THE

MOTION? >> MOTION.

>> I WILL SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER

[16. Discuss and consider approving the Budget Planning Schedule for Fiscal Year 2025-2026.]

16. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE BUDGET PLANNING SCHEDULE FOR FISCAL YEAR 25-26. IT SHOULD BE IN YOUR BOOKS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK THESE OVER.

>> MOST ARE STANDARD. >> A FEW CAN BE FLUID.

>> WE CAN CHANGE AND MAKE CHANGES WHEN IT'S CLOSER TO

TIME. LISA HAVE A COMMENT? >> I WAS GOING TO ASK. AFTER MEETING WITH THE OPEN THAT WE'RE GETTING THE CHART OF ACCOUNTS BUILT OUT FOR, WE WILL PROBABLY NEED TWO MORE WEEKS TO BE ABLE TO SEND OUT THOSE PACKETS SO WE WOULD BE SENDING PACKETS OUT TO THE DEPARTMENTS ON 25 APRIL AND GETTING THEM RETURNED ON MAY 23.

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IT IS GIVING THEM MORE TIME BECAUSE THERE WAS EASTER HOLIDAY SO TWO DAYS OFF IN THE TIME THAT HAS CHANGED.

>> HAVE YOU ALL BEEN MADE AWARE OF THIS CONSTANCE OR TERESA?

>> WHAT DOES THAT CHANGE FOR US? >> IT CHANGES NOTHING OTHER THAN THE DATES THE PACKETS GO OUT AND COME BACK, THEY LOVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO WORK ON THEIR BUDGET PACKETS.

>> IF WE NEED TO ADJUST WE CAN ADJUST. WE NEED TO HAVE MORE

MEETINGS. >> TALKING ABOUT GETTING INTO THE BUDGETS MORE SO I DON'T WANT TO CUT BACK.

>> IS THE SIMILAR TO THE AMOUNT OF WORKSHOPS AND SO FORTH FROM

LAST YEAR? >> YES OR IF YOU DON'T MIND CAN WE BRIEFLY GO OVER THE DATES? THE SCHEDULE IS PATTERNED AFTER LAST YEAR'S CALENDAR. A LOT OF THE DATES ARE UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. SOME ARE STATUTORILY WITH DEADLINES, BEGINNING THE PROCESS WITH THE PACKETS, IT'S REALLY UP TO YOU ALL OF YOUR FINE WITH THAT WE WILL START THE PROCESS APRIL 25 AND ASKING DEPARTMENTS TO RETURN BY MAY 23. JUNE 11 , ASKING TO DESIGNATE OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE TO GENERATE THE RATES AND THEN WE HAVE TWO WORKSHOPS ON THE CALENDAR AND I BELIEVE IT'S THE SAME AS LAST YEAR SO THIS IS OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DEPARTMENTS TO COME FORWARD AND SHARE WITH YOU WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE IN THE FISCAL 26 BUDGETS. WE CAN HAVE ONE OR THREE, AS MANY AS YOU WOULD LIKE. WE HAVE TWO ON THE CALENDAR. JULY 25 IS DEADLINE FOR THE CHIEF APPRAISER TO GIVE US FINAL ASSESSED VALUES. APRIL 30 WE BEGIN PRELIMINARY ASSESSED VALUES SO WE WILL HAVE AN IDEA AND BY JULY 25 THE FINAL ASSESSED VALUES AND HAVE A SHORT WINDOW TO CALCULATE DESIGNATED RATE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE AND APPROVAL RATE BEFORE WE COME BACK TO YOU AUGUST 6. AND THEN THERE ARE CERTAIN GUIDELINES AND STATUTES WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE AND POST THEM SO THE CITIZENS KNOW THAT AS WELL. WE HAVE A WORKSHOP SCHEDULED ON MONDAY, AUGUST 11 FOR THE TAX RATE AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED BUDGET. SO THAT'S AFTER THE TAX RATE VALUES YOU WILL KNOW WHERE WE ARE REVENUE WISE AT THAT POINT AND TIME. AND THEN ON AUGUST 20 WE HAVE A MEETING AGAIN TO DISCUSS THE TAX RATE. IF WE'RE GOING TO BE SETTING THE RATE HIGHER THAN THE REVENUE RATE THAN WE HAVE TO SET A DATE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY SO AUGUST 20 WE WILL BE DOING THAT. AND THEN ON THE 27TH, WE WILL BE PUTTING IN THE NEWSPAPER THE NOTICE OF PROPOSED PROPERTY TAX RATES. AND ON THAT SUNDAY ON THE 31ST WE HAVE TWO NOTICES. ONE FOR THE BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING AND THE SECOND IS NOTICE FOR PROPOSED INCREASE OF ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARY EXPENSES OR ALLOWANCES FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

AND THEN SEPTEMBER FOR THREE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ON TAX RATE INCREASE PROPOSED TAX RATE INCREASE AND ON THE FIFTH WE WILL FILE THE PROPOSED BUDGET WITH THE COUNTY CLERK AUDITOR'S OFFICE WITH THE COUNTY CLERK. AND THEN IN SEPTEMBER WE HAVE OUR MEETINGS. ON THE 10TH WE WILL MEET TO VOTE TO ADOPT THE TAX RATE AND WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING THE SAME DAY TO DISCUSS THE BUDGET AND ADOPT THE BUDGET ON SEPTEMBER 10. THE DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSION OF THE TAX RATE IS ON THE 12TH SO WE WILL MEET THOSE DEADLINES. BY AUGUST EXCUSE ME OCTOBER 26 WE WILL

FILE THE BUDGET. >> HAVE A QUESTION FOR LISA.

WHEN ARE WE GETTING PACKETS TO THE DEPARTMENTS?

>> THE PACKETS WILL BE GOING TO THE DEPARTMENTS ON APRIL 25.

>> WHENEVER THEY DO BACK? >> WE ARE MOVING EVERYTHING TO BE EXPECTS OF THE PACKETS WOULD BE DUE BACK ON MAY 23. IT WAS PREVIOUSLY APRIL 11 AND THE PACKETS WERE DUE BACK ON MAY 9.

>> ARE WE FOR SURE WITH THE CHANGE ON WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DEPARTMENTS THAT YOU ARE WAITING ON THAT WE WILL GET THESE PACKETS TO THEM? I THINK LAST YEAR WE WERE LATE GETTING THE PACKETS TO THEM. WE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE THESE DEPARTMENTS TIME AND WE WANT TO GIVE STAFF TIME TO GO OVER BUDGETS WITH DEPARTMENTS. TENTATIVE AFTER YOUR CONVERSATION?

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>> NOT WITH, IT WAS WITH OPEN GOLF FOR THE NEW CHART OF ACCOUNTS BEING ESTABLISHED. REMEMBER I TALKED TO YOU HOW I WANT TO THE CHART OF ACCOUNTS TO MIRROR WHAT WE HAVING WORKDAY.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT SHORTING THE TIMEFRAME

FOR DEPARTMENTS AT ALL. >> WE ARE NOT SHORTING THEIR

TIMEFRAME. >> DO WE AGREE WITH THAT SIDE ON

US? >> QUESTION. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COURT TO CHANGE THE MONDAY, JULY 7 BUDGET WORKSHOP TO THURSDAY, JULY 10. I HAVE A CONFLICT ON THE SEVENTH AND I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT ON THE 10TH IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY AND DOES NOT GET IN THE WAY OF ANYTHING. PLEASE ?

>> THE EIGHTH AND THE 10TH INSTEAD OF THE SEVENTH AND THE EIGHTH? DOES THAT WORK FOR EVERYBODY ELSE? I HAVE NO IDEA

WHAT MY SCHEDULE LOOKS LIKE. >> I GUESS, SORRY.

>> THE EIGHTH? >> THE EIGHTH AND THE 10TH AND

CHANGE THE SEVENTH TO THE 10TH. >> WE HAVE A MEETING ON THE

NINTH? >> COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING

ON THE NINTH, YES. >> SO THE EIGHTH, NINTH AND 10TH INSTEAD OF SEVENTH, EIGHTH AND NINTH. SO I GUESS I WOULD MAKE MOTION TO AMEND THE PROPOSED FOR MONDAY, JULY 7 TO THURSDAY, JULY

10. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CHANGE THE DATES. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

THE MOTION PASSES. >> YOU'LL NEED TO AMEND THE DATES FROM APRIL 11 TO THE 25TH AND THEN MAY 29 TO THE 23RD.

>> I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO AMEND THE BUDGET PACKETS BEING SENT OUT APRIL 25 AND COMING IN APRIL 23.

>> CAN OFFER A COMMENT BEFORE WE VOTE ON THAT YOUR HONOR? FOR THE RECORD, I LOOKED THROUGH THESE AND I DID NOT SEE A CONFLICT BUT I COULD HAVE MISSED SOMETHING. I WILL BE OUT OF THE COUNTRY

SEPTEMBER 26 THROUGH OCTOBER 2. >> WE WILL MISS YOU.

>> I WILL MISS YOU GUYS, TOO. >> SEPTEMBER 26.

>> THERE ARE NO MEETINGS SCHEDULED IN THERE.

>> I CHECKED TO MAKE SURE BEFORE I MADE THE RESERVATIONS.

>> OKAY I MADE A MOTION FOR THE OTHER DATES. A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. ANY OTHER CHANGES OR ANYTHING TO THAT?

>> ANOTHER WORKSHOP WITHOUT THE DEPARTMENTS AT THE END TRYING TO FIND THINGS WE NEED TO DO. ONE OF THESE WORKSHOPS FOR BUDGET

OTHER THAN AUGUST? >> RIGHT, YES SIR YOU ARE CORRECT. AUGUST 11 IS A WORKSHOP, WITHOUT THE DEPARTMENTS, HIGH-LEVEL FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO CONSIDER THE TAX RATE AND PROPOSED BUDGET. WE CAN ADD ANOTHER.

>> BEFORE WE MAKE A LOT OF DECISIONS I THINK WE NEED TO

MAKE SURE, HAVE A WORKSHOP. >> WHAT WE HAVE ALSO DONE, WE CAN ADD AGENDA ITEMS DURING REGULAR MEETINGS ALSO DO NOT HAVE A SEPARATE MEETING. SO WE COULD PUT A STANDING ITEM ALL SUMMER ON THE AGENDA TO DISCUSS WHENEVER WE WANT TO.

>> THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. THAT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA.

>> AT THE END ALWAYS WANT TO MEET AND WE HAVE QUESTIONS AND WE ARE CRUNCHING IT SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE TIME TO BUILD OF A WORKSHOP WITH US IN THE AUDITOR TASK THE QUESTIONS WE NEED TO ASK SOMETIMES THAT WE DON'T ASK UNTIL THE END.

>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT. COULD WE SAY AGENDA ITEM FOR EVERY AGENDA WHEN WE START AND IF SOMETHING ELSE IS NEEDED BECAUSE THAT WAY IT IS ON EVERY TWO WEEKS.

>> AS LONG AS WE CAN DISCUSS . >> I LOVE THAT IDEA. I WANT AS

MUCH FEEDBACK AS I CAN GET. >> WE WILL HAVE IT ON IF WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION. THAT IS A GOOD POINT.

>> 22 THAT AS A MOTION? >> WE WILL HAVE LISA AT THAT OR

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WE ARE PROBABLY THE RIGHT AUTHORITY.

>> WHAT WE DO NOW? >> PUTTING AN ITEM ON EVERY REGULAR AGENDA THAT LETS US DEAL WITH ANYTHING RELATED TO THE BUDGET IN CASE SOMETHING COMES UP WE WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH WITHOUT HAVING TO PLAN DIFFERENT MEETINGS.

>> THAT'S REALLY SKATING ON THIN ICE. TO PUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA WE MAY WANT TO TAKE ACTION ON.

>> NOT ACTION, JUST DISCUSSION ITEM.

>> BUT THE PUBLIC HAS THE RIGHT TO KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO

DISCUSS. >> RIGHT, THE BUDGET.

>> IT WOULD BE LIKE A WORKSHOP SCHEDULED AT THE BEGINNING OF

THE END. >> TO DISCUSS THERE WOULD BE

BACKUP ATTACHED. >> THE AGENDA WAS AN ITEM.

>> A PLACEHOLDER AND IT WOULD BE BACKUP AND IF THERE'S NO BACKUP

WE MOVE ON. >> NOTHING ON THE AGENDA.

>> FOR THE MONTHS OF JULY AND AUGUST. 1 SEPTEMBER.

>> THAT'S A GOOD CLARIFICATION. >> WE CLEAR EVERY GOOD MOVING

[17. Discuss and consider upcoming Commissioners Court meeting date(s), workshop date(s), and related matters.]

FORWARD? 17 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER UPCOMING COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING DATES WORKSHOP DATES AND FUTURE MATTERS. WE DID WORKSHOPS, REGULAR COMMISSIONERS COURT DATES ARE LISTED. ANYBODY HAVE ANY CONFLICTS? OKAY. ON THE NINTH I WILL HAVE GRANDKIDS HERE. SO I'M PROBABLY GOING TO BE A LITTLE FRAZZLED. MOVING ON.

[1. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving Amendment No. 1 to the Agreement with Diamond Chemical Co., Inc. for Laundry Supplies for Nueces County Jail (IFB 3186-21).]

ITEM B 1. >> DID YOU WANT TO MOVE

SOMETHING? >> NO I'M FINE, CONSIDER AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO THE AGREEMENT WITH DIAMOND CHEMICAL COMPANY FOR LAUNDRY SUPPLIES FOR NUECES COUNTY JILL, COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS REVIEWED THIS. I AM TOLD. SHERIFF APPROVED OF THOSE ITEMS THE LAUNDRY SUPPLIES FOR

THE COUNTY JAIL? >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THIS.

UNDERSTAND THIS WAS A CONTINUING CONTRACT OR A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT FOR AUCTION FOR TWO ADDITIONAL YEARS. THE BACKUP MATERIAL LISTED THE PRICES ARE GOING TO INCREASE FOR SEVERAL ITEMS ON HERE SO DOES THAT FIT WITHIN THE CONFINES OF EXTENDING ANOTHER YEAR? WITHOUT BIDDING OUT?

>> YOU LOVE TO GO TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE.

>> YES THE PRICE INCREASE CONSIDERATION IS CONTAINED IN THE CONTRACT LANGUAGE OF THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT ALLOWS FOR THIS INCREASE SO CUSTOMARY A LOT OF TIMES WE BRING AMENDMENT IT'S JUST TIME EXTENSION ONLY, SOMETIMES THE VENDORS WILL REQUEST PRICE INCREASE. WHEN WE SEND THE LETTERS ASKING IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN RENEWING WE DO NOT ADVERTISE THEY CAN HAVE A PRICE INCREASE SO WE SEND AS TIME ONLY AND IT IS UP TO THEM IF THEY WANT TO EXERCISE THAT OPTION AND IF WE GET A PRICE INCREASE REQUEST WE GO TO THE REQUESTING DEPARTMENT AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE OKAY STAYING WITH THE VENDOR AND IF SO WE

BRING IT BACK TO. >> OF THE PRICE INCREASE IS A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE WE WOULD BE REQUIRED BY LAW TO GO TO BED?

>> IF ASKED FOR SOMETHING OUTSIDE THE CONFINES OF THE CONTRACT WE WOULD IF THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO ACCEPT THE

LIMITATIONS OF THE CONTRACT. >> THIS HAD A LIMITATION ON PERCENTAGE AND IT COULD INCREASE.

>> YES. >> OKAY VERY GOOD.

>> MAKE A MOTION TO PASS. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION BANISTERS UNANIMOUSLY. ADOPT

[2. Adopt a resolution approving the submission of an application and acceptance of award to the Officer of the Governor, Homeland Security Grants Division for the FY 24-25 Operation Stonegarden (OPSG) Grant.]

RESOLUTION APPROVING SUBMISSION OF APPLICATION AND ACCEPTANCE OF AWARD TO THE OFFICE OF GOVERNOR HOMELAND SECURITY GRANTS DIVISION FOR THE OPERATION STONE GUARD GRANT. DO YOU WANT TO

SPEAK ABOUT THIS ONE? >> YES JUDGE I CAN.

>> DO YOU WANT TO GO TO THE MICROPHONE? I BELIEVE WE

RECEIVED 256,000 FROM THIS. >> OPERATION STONE GARDEN WORKS CLOSELY WITH BORDER PATROLLERS, THE ONE THAT PUSHED THE GRANT OUT. IT IS A NONMATCHING GRANT SO WE DON'T NEED TO PUT ANY, NO MATCH. NUECES COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE PRECINCT 5 AND PRECINCT 3

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CONSTABLES PARTICIPATE IN THIS ALONG WITH CC PD, BISHOP PD AND ROBSTOWN PD, ROBSTOWN, BISHOP AND CC PD MANAGE THEIR BUDGETS AND THE INTERNAL AUDITOR VICTORIA WEBB MANAGES THE BUDGET FOR NUECES COUNTY AND PRECINCT 3 AND PRECINCT 5. RECENTLY PRECINCT 1 CONSTABLE HAS REQUESTED TO COME ON TO STONE GARDEN, I HAVE REFERRED HIM TO THE INDIVIDUALS AT BORDER PATROL THAT HE WANT TO TALK TO. HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO COME ONTO THE GRANT WE ARE GETTING READY TO GO INTO BUT HE CAN MAKE REQUEST TO THEM AND IF THEY APPROVE HIM WILL INCLUDE THEM IN THE NEXT

SUBMISSION. >> TO ASK FOR MORE MONEY?

>> WHAT HAPPENS IS , WHEN WE DO THE BUDGET, I PROVIDE A LIST OF EQUIPMENT BECAUSE THERE IS EQUIPMENT EVERYBODY ALWAYS WANTS. THEY GIVE ME THEIR WISHLIST AND I TAKE THAT WISHLIST AND WITH THE COST I SUBMIT TO BORDER TOLL IN ADDITION TO OVERTIME COST, MAINTENANCE COST ON VEHICLES, ALL THE COSTS RELATED THAT WE HAVE TO BE REIMBURSED FOR. AND THEN, THEY LOOK AT IT AND THEY SAY WE MAY SUBMIT $2.2 MILLION WORTH OF REQUEST. THAT WILL COME BACK AND SAY YOU ARE AWARDED $1.2 MILLION, MAKE IT FIT AND WE WILL GO BACK AND I WILL LOOK AT EVERYBODY'S REQUEST AND TRY TO GIVE THEM AS MUCH OF WHAT THEY ASK FOR IN EQUIPMENT, BUT KEEPING IN MIND THE PURPOSE OF THE GRANT IS TO WORK ON THE HIGHWAYS AND STOP HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND DRUGS COMING INTO THE COUNTRY SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT FOR OVERTIME AVAILABLE AND TO PAY FOR MAINTENANCE ON THE CARS THAT STONE GARDEN PROVIDE AND THAT TYPE OF THING. I DON'T CONTROL THE BUDGET I JUST GO BACK AND PUT THE MONEY IN PLACE WHEN THEY AWARD IT TO US AND BORDER PATROL IS THE ONE WHO DECIDES. RECENTLY WE HAD PRECINCT 5 USE ALL OF THE OVERTIME AND WE HAD SOME LEFTOVER'S WE GIVE THEM $10,000 SO WE SHARE BETWEEN EACH OTHER AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AS NEEDED IF SOMEBODY EXCEEDS THEIR FUNDS. SO I THINK WE ARE FAIR AND HOW

WE MANAGE THE GRANT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> A MOTION AND SECOND TO PROVE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YES SIR, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. CHESNEY I'M SORRY. WRONG ONE.

>> I DIDN'T MEAN TO. >> CHIEF, DO THEY KEEP, ARE WE KEEPING ANY SORT OF METRICS ON THE SUCCESS OF THIS

INTERDICTION? >> YES COMMISSIONER WE KEEP STATISTICS. WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THOSE TO BORDER PATROL AND A LOOK AT PRODUCTIVITY AND THAT PLAYS INTO HOW MUCH MONEY WE ARE AWARDED. I THINK YOU WILL FIND THE COUNTIES THAT ARE CLOSER TO THE BORDER THAT HAVE MUCH MORE TRAFFIC PROBABLY GET THE HIGHER AWARDS. WE DO NOT GET AS HIGH AWARD OF SOME OF THOSE, SO YES METRICS ARE LOOKED AT AND PRODUCTIVITY IS MONITORED.

>> THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME.

>> YES SIR THE GRANT HAS BEEN A LONG A LONG TIME. FRIENDLY FORCES TO BORDER PATROL. SO THAT IS NUECES COUNTY, PRECINCT 3 CONSTABLE, PRECINCT 5, CC PD , BISHOP PD AND ROBSTOWN PD ALL

PARTICIPATE. >> VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. THAT'S

ALL I HAVE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

SCOTT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION

[1. Discuss and approve repayment to the Texas Department of Emergency Management in the amount of $460,411.23 for excess funds received for COVID-19 Vaccinations Administration, and related matters.]

PASSES ANONYMOUSLY, THANK YOU. THING ON GRANTS COME ITEM NUMBER ONE DISCUSS AND APPROVE REPAYMENT TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $460,411.23 , FOR EXCESS FUNDS RECEIVED FOR COVERT VACCINATIONS, ADMINISTRATION AND RELATED MATTERS. WE RECEIVED THE MONEY IN ADVANCE AND WE DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH QUALIFYING EXPENSES , THEIR CLOSING THIS FOR THE VACCINATIONS OUT AND THIS IS THE

AMOUNT THEY SAY THAT WE OWE. >> THE OVERTIME INVOLVED IN

THIS? >> SOME TIMESHEETS WERE NOT SIGNED . DO YOU WANT TO TALK ON WHAT WAS REJECTED?

>> THE 460,000 IS ONLY WHAT WE RECEIVED AND DIDN'T CLAIM. OUT

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OF THE 2.2 , WE ONLY SUBMITTED CLAIMS FOR 1.7. THIS WAS THE AMOUNT WE RECEIVED AND WE NEED TO BE RETURNED.

>> I THOUGHT WE HAD SUNDAY NIGHT.

>> FOR 60S BASICALLY ONLY ON THAT. AND THE SUBMITTED FOR THE 1.7, SOME THINGS WERE REJECTED. SO WE STILL MAY OWE MORE MONEY FROM THOSE SO THIS IS ONLY WHAT WE DIDN'T CLAIM FROM THE 2.2

MILLION. >> WHERE'S THE MONEY NOW.

SORRY, MY BAD. >> ON THE OTHER ATTACHMENT THAT WAS INCLUDED WAS THE AMOUNTS WE RECLAIMED THE 1.7 THE 1.744 , TOTAL CLAIMS WE PUT IN. UNSUBSTANTIATED COST 599,000.

>> WE COULD POTENTIALLY OWE ANOTHER 999,000.

>> KIRK AND SOME OF THE COST UNSUBSTANTIATED IS ON THERE.

SOME OF IT WAS INELIGIBLE OVERTIME. THEY PROBABLY PUT IN IT WAS OVERTIME BUT THE PROJECT DID NOT SHOW OVERTIME. SO THAT'S NOT CONSIDERED OVERTIME. TIMESHEETS WERE NOT SIGNED.

THINGS LIKE THAT. >> TIMESHEETS WERE NOT SIGNED BY

WHO? >> THE EMPLOYEE.

>> WE CANNOT RETROACTIVELY GO BACK TO RESOLVE THAT ISSUE?

>> WE TRIED. THEY DENIED. >> SOME OF THEM WE DID BUT SOME

THE EMPLOYEES NO LONGER HERE. >> THIS IS REALLY DISAPPOINTING.

>> CONTRACTS DO NOT HAVE THE FEDERAL REGULATIONS IN THERE.

>>

>> SAME WITH THE CONTRACTS. WE DID COME BACK AND THEY ALLOWED US TO DO FEDERAL REGULATIONS SO WE SUBMITTED BACK TO LET'S SAY REQUEST AND BROUGHT TO COURT WE SUBMITTED US OF THOSE EXPENSES, THERE WERE NOT ALLOWED, THEY DID NOT ALLOW SO THAT'S THE LAST FINAL THINGS WE DO NOT HAVE A NUMBER YET.

>> THIS IS ALSO WHY WE STRESS OVER AND OVER AGAIN EACH TIME THAT WHEN YOU GET THE REQUESTS FROM GRANTS OR GRANT WORKS WERE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS AUDITORS NEED RECEIPTS, THEY NEED DOCUMENTATION, THEY NEED PAPERWORK. THEY ARE NOT TRYING TO HARASS YOU, BUT TODAY THIS IS 460 AND YOU ARE TALKING ANOTHER 599,000 POTENTIALLY THAT WE COULD BE FORCED TO PAY. THIS IS UNFORTUNATE FOR THE COUNTY AND WHAT WE CAN DO FOR EMPLOYEES

WITH THAT KIND OF FUNDS. >> THIS IS ONLY , WE DID GET FOR THE TESTING , WE DID ANOTHER APPLICATION. THINGS THAT DID NOT QUALIFY FOR THIS , WE APPLIED IT ON A DIFFERENT APPLICATION. WE DID RECEIVE IT HUNDRED 5000 ON ONE OF THOSE RFR 'S SO FAR.

>> ASKING ANYONE WHO DEALS WITH NUMBERS SO EVERYBODY ON THE SITE EXCEPT MISS DORSEY. IS THERE A WAY TO DO AFTER ACTION REVIEW OR MODIFIED VERSION OF THE OF HOW AND WHY SO WE DON'T GET TO THIS POINT AGAIN? THAT IS A SIZABLE AMOUNT THAT ADDS ALMOST 1 MILLION AFTER WE ARE HEMORRHAGING MONEY ON INSURANCE AND OTHER CLAIMS. SO I'M WONDERING IS THERE MECHANISM IN PLACE TO DO THAT? WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE LACKING SO I CAN GO BACK AND HAVE ANYONE DIRECTLY INVOLVED OR NOON ELSE THAT COULD PROVIDE ASSISTANCE AND BACKGROUND TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT SO ANY GRANT IN GENERAL WE MAKE SURE WE GET EVERYTHING LINED UP SO I MEAN THIS IS COSTLY OBVIOUSLY. WE CANNOT DENY THAT, AND EVERYONE HAS ASKED THE SAME QUESTIONS THE COMMISSIONER HAS ASKED. WE ALL KNOW WHY WE GOT TO THIS POINT. THAT IS MY BIGGEST CONCERN HOW CAN WE PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN SO MAYBE, I KNOW WE ARE THROWING A LOT ON CONSTANCE. YOU AND THE AUDITOR OR ANYONE ELSE , LIKE I SAID BEST PRACTICE WHAT IS THE AFTER ACTION REVIEW THAT CAN BE DONE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A BETTER PLAN , SO WE GO BACK TO THE SAME POINT IN THE SAME PLAN EVERY TIME SO THERE'S NO MISSING OUT ON MONDAY.

>> COMMISSIONER TO THAT END, THE INITIATIVE HAS STARTED,

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ESSENTIALLY DURING ALL OF OUR WINTER EVENTS, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT REIMBURSED, WE FOLLOWED THE STEPS.

>> WE RECEIVE EVERY PIECE OF PAPERWORK , EVERYTHING HAS TO BE

DOCUMENTED. >> WE DO THE 214, THE FOLLOW, MAKE SURE THE TIMESHEETS ARE DONE. IT WAS LESSONS LEARNED, WE WERE BLOWING AND GOING AND IT WAS COVERT, BUYING STUFF AND PUTTING STUFF, WE HAVE FOUR SUPER FREEZE REFRIGERATORS AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, THREE EXCUSE ME. WE GAVE ONE TO THE CITY. WE WERE ANTICIPATING WHAT WE DIDN'T KNOW. AS PART OF THAT WE DID NOT KNOW ALL THE REGULATIONS, BUT AS WE ARE WALKING THROUGH TIME WE HAVE LEARNED OF ALL THE REGULATIONS THAT WE DO NOT FOLLOW AT THAT POINT IN TIME. WE WERE DOING THE BEST WE COULD, WE HAD TIMESHEETS, WE MADE SURE WE HAD ALL THE PEOPLE SIGN IN AND SIGN OUT FOR THE DIFFERENT EVENTS, BUT WITH THE FEDS IT GETS A LITTLE BIT TRICKY. TODAY SIGN IN FOR LUNCH? THEY SIGNED IN FOR THE DAY AND REPAID LOANS, THEY CAN KNOCK IT OFF THE LINE, GIVING INJECTIONS. SO THOSE ARE LITTLE MINUTIA THAT NOW WE KNOW GOING FORWARD, BUT AS THE JUDGE HAS INITIATED A PROGRAM TO WHERE WE ARE MANAGING THAT, I KNOW LISA HAS TAKEN THE FINANCE PART OF THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COURSES SO THAT WE CAN TRACK IT A LOT BETTER. I KNOW DALE, HIS BIGGEST DEAL WAS TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE TURNING YOUR INVOICE, BUT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE TURNING YOUR INVOICES, THESE LITTLE PARTS WE DON'T HAVE , THE EXISTING AGREEMENTS NOW THAT MICHAEL HAS PUT THEM IN THE EXISTING AGREEMENTS PART OF THE ARPA RESPONSE THAT WE NEVER HAD THAT BOILERPLATE WILL PROBABLY GO FORWARD AND EVERYTHING WE DO.

THERE HAS BEEN LEARNING THROUGHOUT THE EVENT.

>> MAY BE SOMETHING WE CAN PUT IN, IN THE FUTURE AGENDA ONLY GET OUR HEAD AROUND THIS AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE BLAME GAME. WHETHER ELECTED OR APPOINTED BUT THERE'S RESPONSIBILITY EVERYONE SHOULD BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR. SOMEONE COST US MONEY. I THINK IT SEVERAL, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME SORT OF TREND THAT WE ARE MISSING AND THIS IS PRETTY STAGGERING AMOUNT. VERY VERY CONCERNING. LIKE I SAID , IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE SURE THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. GOT TO KNOW THE JUDGE HAS PUT THAT IN PLACE. WE HAVE A GREAT TO MOUNT. SO WE CAN GET ADDITIONAL INPUT ON ANY OF THE PREVIOUS EXPERIENCES AND HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE INTO THE COUNTY'S PLAN. MAKE SURE THAT IS PART OF IT AND I'M SURE.

>> THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS, AS WELL. IF LAMENTING THIS IN SMALLER SITUATIONS THAT ARE NOT EVEN REAL EMERGENCIES JUST GIVES THEM PRACTICE, THIS IS WHAT'S REQUIRED, THE DOCUMENTATION AND D HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB WITH ALL THE RECEIPTS AND EVERYTHING IN IT. THIS NORMALLY HAPPENS, THIS KIND OF SITUATIONS HAPPENS DURING EMERGENCIES WHEN EVERYTHING IS AN EMERGENCY, TRYING TO GET EQUIPMENT, TRYING TO GET THINGS OUT TO PEOPLE.

REGULAR GRANTS IS A SLOWER PROCESS. THIS IS USUALLY DURING EMERGENCY TIMES, BUT THAT'S ALL THE MORE WHY THOSE PROCESSES HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED, ESPECIALLY DURING EMERGENCIES BECAUSE THIS IS THE STUFF THAT ENDS UP FIVE YEARS LATER. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING?

>> SO MY QUESTION IS SEVERAL, BUT MY FIRST QUESTION IS. IT SAYS WE ACCEPTED THE AWARD 2.4 MILLION, WE RECEIVED 2.2 MILLION SO WE DID NOT GET TO .4 WE GOT TO POINT TO. SO MY QUESTION IS, MY RECOLLECTION IS THIS WAS SET ASIDE IN A FUND. WHETHER THE MONEY GO AND HOW DID HE GET SPENT IF IT WAS NOT SPENT WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SPENT FOR? IF IT WERE IN THE FUND WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO DIG OUT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

>> THE MONEY WAS PUT INTO THE DISASTER FUND , THE 01040 KNOW.

THE FUND. THE THING IS, ALTHOUGH THE DISASTER EXPENSES AND ALL THE DISASTER REVENUES ARE PLACED IN THAT IN CORRESPONDING

PROJECTS. >> CORRESPONDING PROJECTS MEANS?

>> CORRESPONDING PROJECTS. >> 2.2 MILLION WAS PUT IN A

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FUND, BUT THEN DESIGNATED FOR COVERT RELIEF WHATEVER YOU CALL THIS PROJECT. GO AHEAD. I WILL LET YOU EXPLAIN. WILL EXPLAIN WHY WE DON'T HAVE THOSE SITTING IN THE SUN.

>> TOTAL COVERT EXPENSES WERE X. WE RECEIVED LESS THAN THAT AND THE VARIANCE IS THE SHORTAGE I PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED THAT IS IN THE 0104 DEPARTMENT. BUT IT IS PART OF THE SHORTAGE WE HAVE.

>> WELL BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE. THIS WAS SPECIFIC MONEY THAT WAS PUT IN FOR COVID-19 VACCINATIONS. THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A SPECIFIC CATEGORY UNLESS AM READING THIS WRONG FOR COVERT VACCINATIONS. SO I GET THE WHOLE SHORTAGE THING ON EVERY THING ELSE BUT WE SHOULD NOT BE SHORT ON THIS IF WE PUT THAT IN THE

VACCINATION FUND. >> THAT'S WHAT SHE'S SAYING WE DID NOT PUT IT IN VACCINATIONS ONLY, WE PUT IT IN COVID .

>> SHE SAID IT WAS DESIGNATED FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS.

>> IT WENT TO THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS SO YOU CAN SEE THE COVID PROJECTS THAT ARE VACCINATION RELATED. YOU CAN SEE

THE RECEIPT OF REVENUES. >> I THOUGHT WE COULDN'T SEE THAT BECAUSE I WAS MY QUESTION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AS WELL, I WANTED ALL OF THESE SEPARATE WHEN WE RECEIVED THE MONEY SO WE CAN SEE WHAT'S LEFT IN IT WHEN WE ARE CREATING THESE NEW. WE WERE TELLING HIM IF IT WAS IN THERE WHY WAS IT SPENT?

>> IT WAS THE COLLECTIVE NET OF ALL THE COVID EXPENSES.

>> IT WAS NOT JUST VACCINATIONS?

>> IT WAS TRACKED ON THE PROJECT SEPARATELY. IN THE COST CENTER

TOGETHER. >> RIGHT, THE POINT OF THAT IS , WE ARE CONTESTING A LOT OF THAT. THOSE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS. SO WE ARE NOT REALLY SENDING, WE'RE NOT GETTING REIMBURSED AS HE SAID, THIS IS NOT GETTING REIMBURSED OR REJECTED, THIS IS BEING BACK MONEY ALLEGEDLY YOU ALL HAVE COME UP WITH THAT SAYS WE OWE THEM BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SPEND. THE OTHER CATEGORIES ARE THE OTHER POTS OF MONEY WHERE THEY SHOULD BE IN MY OPINION I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WOULD BE IN ONE BIG FUND. IT SHOULD BE HERE'S A FUND FOR COVERT ACTIONS, HERE'S A FUND FOR WINTER STORMS AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE MIXED AND MATCHED BECAUSE THAT'S BAD ACCOUNTING. SO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE ARE STILL CONTESTING IS WHAT'S CAUSING THE SHORTAGE AND NOT THIS. WE JUST DO NOT CATEGORIZE THIS RIGHT. WE DID NOT PUT IT IN THE FUND RIGHT WITH A FUND WOULD HAVE A BALANCE WE COULD WRITE A CHECK FOR AND WOULD BE FIGHTING ON THE OTHER ONES. THIS IS NOT A TRUE, THIS IS JUST BAD ACCOUNTING. THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A FUND THAT SAYS IF YOU GET A FUND FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT YOU CANNOT PUT THEM INTO ONE BIG FUND. IT SAYS IT'S ALL FOR RELIEF THEN WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS. SORRY , I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE WOULD'VE DONE THAT AND WHAT ACCOUNTING SUPPOSED TO HAVE PROVIDED TO HAVE EVER DONE IT LIKE THAT. GOT FOR BID WE ARE NOT DOING THAT NOW? IF YOU GET MONEY FROM SOMEONE YOU DON'T PUT IT IN A BIG LUMP SUM AND JUST CATEGORIZE DO YOU? YOU CANNOT BE SPENDING STUFF, STEALING PETER TO PAY PAUL IF

THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING. >> JUST LIKE THE ACCOUNT YOU

WANT TO SET UP. >> THAT'S WHAT I DID IT THAT

WAY. >> YOU WILL NOTICE, AS COUNTY AUDITOR I SET UP A SEPARATE FUND, SEPARATE COST CENTER AND SEPARATE BANK ACCOUNT FOR THOSE FUNDS. TO KEEP IT STRAIGHT.

>> BECAUSE I TOLD YOU TO. I DEMANDED THAT BE HOW IT WAS SO GOOD SO YOU DID IT, YOU DID IT BECAUSE I ASKED HER TO. I SAID THAT'S MONEY WE'RE GETTING FOR SPECIFIC PROJECT. IF YOU WANT TO THEM ALSO GO BACK AND FIND THEM AND I SAID IT HAS TO BE SET UP THIS WAY BECAUSE IS COMING FROM THE TERS AND THE INTEREST IS PUBLIC MONEY SO YOU DID NOT DO IT FOR ANY OTHER REASON THAT I ASKED YOU TO. DO YOU CONTEST THAT?

>> HAD ALREADY REQUESTED THE SEPARATE ONES, BUT YES SIR IT WAS IN CORRESPONDENCE WITH WHAT YOU SAID.

>> AT THE END OF THE DAY, SO WE ARE NOT DOING THIS ANYMORE LIKE THIS? WE'RE NOT LUMPING THEM ALL INTO DISASTER FUNDS? SEPARATE ACCOUNTS FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM SO IF ONE GOES OVERCOME TELL US ONE GOES OVER YOU DON'T SEE THE WHOLE DISASTER FUNDS HAVE GONE OVER BECAUSE THAT'S DIFFERENT

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FIGHTS. ON THIS ONE LET ME GO BACK BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE MIXING HAVE A LITTLE BIT. THE NEXT ROUND THAT MIGHT HAPPEN. SO ON THE WHAT WERE WE TALKING ABOUT ON THE OVERTIME ? IS THAT FOR THE NEXT CHUNK? CAN SOME OF THIS BE CORRECTED?

>> THE VACCINATIONS PW 145, THE OTHER ATTACHMENT INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA ITEM IS 145 CLAIMS WE SUBMITTED. PART OF THIS.

>> WAS SOME OF THE REJECTED? >> YES BUT IT IS NOT FINALIZED.

>> OF THE 460 YOU ARE ASKING FOR TODAY?

>> MOSER. THE FOR 60 SOMETHING WE DID.

>> WE ARE FIGHTING OVER 500,000 THE JUDGE CONTESTED AND THAT'S PART OF THE BACKUP BUT IT'S NOT THE MOTION IN FRONT OF US. THE 460,000 TODAY SO WE DON'T MIX THE SITUATIONS. THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS WE HAVE ANY RIGHT TO CONTEST ANYMORE?

>> NO SIR. >> ON THE OTHER YOU DO AND ON SEVERAL OTHER THINGS THAT ARE MILLIONS WE'VE GOT HANGING OUT POTENTIALLY BECAUSE OF PAST ADMINISTRATIONS DOING WHATEVER THINGS. WE CAN BLAME IT ON A COUPLE DIFFERENT PEOPLE. I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT TODAY BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE HAVE TO CLEAN UP THE MESS. IF YOU'RE TELLING ME WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE, WE HAVE GOT EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW ME ALWAYS WANT TO APPEAL TO THE LAST END THAT I CAN TO MAKE SURE WE PROTECT THE TAX DOLLARS AND OKAY. YOU ARE SAYING THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE CAN CONTEST. NOTHING THROWING OUT IN THE FOR 60 TO APPEAL TO

SOMEONE ELSE? >> NO SIR THIS WAS ONLY FOR VACCINATIONS. THAT'S WHY WE DID NOT HAVE MORE CLAIMS THAN THE 1.7 UNDER VACCINATIONS SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO RETURN

THE 460. >> CLAIM FILING DEADLINE HAS PASSED? YOU CANNOT ADD MORE INVOICES?

>> THAT'S WHAT THEY TRY TO CLOSE IT OUT.

>> TO CLARIFY THIS A LITTLE BIT. COMMISSIONER MENTIONED THE FACT 400 SOMETHING 60. WE DO NOT GET THE MONEY. WE GOT HALF THE

MONEY. >> WE HAVE 2.2 MILLION. WE

RECEIVED IT IN OUR ACCOUNT. >> WE SPENT 1.7.

>> WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MONEY AND THEY WERE GIVING US , THEY AWARDED US $5000 THEY GIVE US 200,000 USE THE REST OF IT UNTIL WE SPEND IT SO WE TRY TO SPEND IT BUT THERE WOULD I GIVE IT BACK BECAUSE IT WASN'T SPENT OR WHATEVER.

>> THERE MAY HAVE BEEN ANOTHER. >> I REMEMBER READING AND

TALKING ABOUT IT. >> TALK INTO THE MICROPHONE.

>> WASN'T THERE WHEN WE GOT AN AWARD DO NOT GIVE THE WHOLE

AWARD. >> THIS AWARD WAS EVEN HIGHER

AND WE ONLY RECEIVED THE 2.1. >> THERE WERE GOING TO GIVE THE REST WHEN WE SPEND IT. SO SPENDING MONEY NOT KNOWING WHEN TO GET IT BACK. THAT WAS ONE OF OUR PROBLEMS. SAY WE GOT HALF OF WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO GET. NOT GETTING REIMBURSED UNTIL YOU

SPEND THAT. >> UNLESS YOU ARE REFERRING TO ? LIKE ARPA WE HAD 70 UPFRONT AND THIS ONE RECEIVED 2.2. THE CLAIMED 1.7 SO THAT'S WHY THEY REQUEST THE REMAINING AMOUNT.

THE UNCLAIMED MONEY. >> OKAY SO THAT'S WHY IT'S A GOOD IDEA AND THAT'S WHAT I ALWAYS SAY SET UP A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT. IDENTIFY. THAT WAY YOU KNOW TO GO TO THAT ACCOUNT. IF I SPEND 100,000 I KNOW THAT ACCOUNTS ONLY HAS 100,000 LEFT INSTEAD OF GOING TO ANOTHER ACCOUNT WHERE MORE MONEY IS. SO , I DON'T KNOW. I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR HOWEVER LONG, COUPLE YEARS NOW. I KNOW WE WILL NOT GET THE MOST

MONEY THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. >> THE EXPENSES WITH YOUR JULY

1, 2022. >> WE HOPE TO GET THE OTHER.

>> 1136 . >> WHEN IS THE DEADLINE FOR

THAT? >> WE SUBMITTED THREE CLAIMS ALREADY. THERE IS NO MORE CLAIMS.

>> SO WE MIGHT NOT GET THAT EITHER.

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>> WE DID ON THIS ONE 45, LET'S SAY THE FIRST REQUEST WE SUBMITTED THE REJECTED 122,000, THE 122,000 WAS SUBMITTED IN THE 1136 AND WE WERE REIMBURSED. SOME OF THE UNSUBSTANTIATED ITEMS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE 145 WE DID RESUBMIT IT. THE SAME THING AS SOME IN ONE OF THE ANY OPPOSED? NUMBER NINE REQUEST THE REJECTED AND SAID NO. WHEN WE CAME TO COURT AND AMEND THE CONTRACT FOR THE FEDERAL REGULATIONS WE RESUBMITTED IT SO THERE ALLOWING EXPENSES TO BE REIMBURSED.

>>.BULK OF MONEY HAS TO DO WITH SALARIES, OVERTIME OR WHAT?

>> THERE IS FORCE ACCOUNT LABOR, EQUIPMENT. MATERIALS CONTRACTS.

THAT'S WHAT THE LIST WAS FOR. I CONDENSED IT TO KIND OF WHAT AMOUNTS WERE REJECTED UNDER FORCE ACCOUNT $389. PURCHASE AND

MATERIALS 3825. CONTRACTS, -- >> THEY CAN'T GO BACK AND SAY GIVE ME RECEIPT OF WHAT WE BOUGHT AND WHAT WE DID?

>> SOME WERE ABLE TO. LET'S SAY SOME OF THE THINGS BOUGHT ON AMAZON, WHAT WAS ATTACHED AS EVIDENCE WAS NOT SHIPPED SO THEY NEED US TO GET SOMETHING THAT SAID WHEN IT WAS SHIPPED. SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION. SOME THINGS WE WERE NOT ABLE TO GET FROM THE VENDORS. SO CANNOT CLAIM THAT BUT WE HAVE TRIED. WE HAVE BEEN HARPING ON PURCHASING.

>> EVERYBODY WORKED ON THIS. >> WHAT IS GONE IS GONE SO WE HAVE TO HOPE FOR THE BEST. IF WE DON'T HAVE IT , WE WON'T GET ANYTHING IF WE DON'T HAVE THE RECEIPTS.

>> IT IS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE , WE'VE BEEN TELLING EVERYBODY WE

NEED THE INFORMATION. >> WE REMIND EVERYONE ALL THE TIME AND WHEN THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT SMALL INCIDENTS I DON'T CARE TURN IN THE RECEIPTS. WE HAVE TO DO IT THIS WAY.

CONSTANCE WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ AND CHESNEY YOUR POINTS ARE WELL TAKEN. THIS IS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE. THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS MONEY WE DID RECEIVE BUT DID NOT SUBMIT CLAIMS FOR. THE 460 SHOULD BE IN THE ACCOUNT AS YOU SAID. I'M SORRY. SORRY. IS THAT BETTER? THE ITEM BEFORE YOU REPRESENT 460,000 OF MONEY WE DID RECEIVE BUT WE DID NOT FILE FOR REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAMS. IT SHOULD BE SITTING IN THE ACCOUNT AS YOU HAD SAID. THIS MONEY WAS DEPOSITED TO THE DISASTER RECOVERY FUND WHICH IS , WHICH ACCOUNTED FOR MANY DISASTERS. SO, GOING FORWARD WE ARE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE DIFFERENT FUNDS FOR DIFFERENT DISASTERS BECAUSE THE MONEY SHOULD BE THERE. WE SHOULD NOT BE TAKING FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO PAY BACK BUT IT IS A LESSON LEARNED. WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE SURE IT'S BETTER THE

NEXT TIME. >> I BELIEVE I HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS IS GOING TO COME OUT OF THE CONTINGENCY THAT WE ONLY HAD 2 MILLION SET OUT IN THIS LOOP OF BALANCE DOWN TO 1.460 LEFT IN THE CONTINGENCY FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.

>> WE HAVE CONTINGENCY. >> GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER PUSLEY.

>> OKAY. WHEN I READ THIS THE WAY, UNDERSTOOD THE WE WERE SAYING WE RECEIVED THE MONEY BUT NEVER APPLIED EXPENSES TOWARD THE FUND OR THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY AND SO I GUESS THE SECOND PART OF MY QUESTION WOULD BE. SOME OF THE THINGS WE DID NOT GET REIMBURSED , COULD WE HAVE POSSIBLY CHARGED AGAINST THIS OR

AT LEAST ATTEMPTED TO? >> IT DOES NOT APPEAR WE HAD EXPENDITURES TO COVER THOSE TO SUBMIT FOR THOSE. THERE IS ROUND TWO MENTIONED ON THE UNSUBSTANTIATED COST SO A SECOND ROUND MAY HAVE TO COME BACK. THAT'S DIFFERENT, THAT WOULD BE THINGS DENIED, CLAIMS THAT WERE DENIED. NOT THAT WE DID NOT SUBMIT. TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.

>> WE DO NOT USE ANYTHING AGAINST THIS MONEY THAT WAS

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DENIED. THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD.

>> YES SIR YOU ARE RIGHT. >> MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS.

MOTION AND SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE EMOTION PASSES WITH COMMISSIONER

[2. Discuss and consider adopting a resolution authorizing the submission of an application to the Office of the Attorney General, on behalf of the Nueces County District Attorney's Office, for the Other Victim Assistance Grant Program FY 2026, and designating the County Judge as the County's "Authorized Official," and related matters. No Cash Match.]

CHESNEY OUT OF THE ROOM. ITEM NUMBER TWO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SUBMISSION OF AN APPLICATION TO THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL ON BEHALF OF THE NUECES COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR THE OTHER VICTIM ASSISTANCE GRANT PROGRAM. YES WE DID, DO YOU WANT YES, THE COMMISSIONER JUST WALKED IN. VICTIM'S ASSISTANT GRANTS THERE ARE FOUR EMPLOYEES IN THE DAS OFFICE. TWO WITNESS VICTIM COORDINATORS, ONE VICTIM WITNESS SUPERVISOR GRANT WRITER AND ONE WITNESS SECRETARY. THIS IS THE ONLY FUNDED BY THE GRANT IT IS ONE PERSON. THERE IS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT PAYS THE FULL SALARY.

ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS?

>> THIS APPLICATION IS FOR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, THE ONE THAT IS CURRENTLY THERE, THE GRANT PERSON FROM THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR GRANT. THIS GRANT, WE HAD IT A FEW YEARS AGO, THEY DO NOT OFFER EVERY YEAR AND THE FUNDING WENT AWAY, THE EMPLOYEE WENT AWAY AND THEY WANT TO REQUEST ANOTHER EMPLOYEE TO HELP ASSIST. THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT IS --

>> THEY DO UNDERSTAND THIS IS A GRANT THE PERSON WOULD GO AWAY

NEXT YEAR? >> YES AND IT HAPPENED ALREADY

WITH THEM. >> THERE IS NO CASH MATCH. FOR VICTIMS ASSISTANCE GRANT PROGRAM. SO DO THEY HAVE THESE OTHER PEOPLE IN HERE? THE OTHER FOUR INDIVIDUALS, IN

>> THIS IS IN ADDITION TO. >> THERE WOULD BE FIVE VICTIM

ASSISTANCE? >> I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL

MAKE THIS JUST TEMPORARY. >> I LOOKED IT UP AND I KNEW THEY HAD FOUR AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE BECAUSE THERE

IS A NAME AT THE TOP OF THIS. >> SO MOVED.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND I WILL SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION

[1. Discuss and consider posting the speed limit signs on Elia Street from State Highway 44 to County Road 40 in Banquete.]

PASSES. PUBLIC WORKS. ITEM D. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER POSTING SPEED LIMIT SIGNS ON ELIA STREET FROM STATE HIGHWAY 44 AND COUNTY

ROAD 40. >> PUBLIC WORKS RECOMMENDING POSTING SPEED LIMIT OF 30 MILES PER HOUR ON ELIA TO PERFORM A TRAFFIC STUDY REQUIRED BY THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION.

>> YOU ALL DID THE STUDY? >> YES BY THE TRANSPORTATION CODE UNDER SECTION 545, PERFORMED AND BASED ON THE STUDY IT WAS DETERMINED ON 85 PERCENTILE WE COULD PROPOSE 30

MILES PER HOUR. >> ANY OPPOSITION TO THIS? THEY ARE FINE WITH IT? DO THEY ASK FOR IT?

>> THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAME AS A REQUEST FROM SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE IN THE AREA. I ASKED THEM TO LOOK INTO IT AND HE DID THE TRAFFIC STUDY NECESSARY FOR US MOST OF THE ROADS OVER THERE DO NOT HAVE SIGNS OF ANY KIND BUT THIS IS A HIGHLY TRAVELED ROAD NEXT TO THE SCHOOL , ONE OF THE DISTRICT

FACILITIES. >> I THOUGHT THE SCHOOL MAY HAVE

ASKED. >> THE SCHOOL DID NOT ASK SPECIFICALLY , BUT PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND THERE DID. HE ALSO ASKED FOR SPEED HUMPS BUT IT DOES NOT QUALIFY.

>> THAT IS CORRECT. THERE ARE SEVERAL REQUIREMENTS FOR SPEED HUMPS AND THERE IS A SPEED HUMP POLICY AND PROCEDURE SO IT HAS

TO BE CERTAIN CATEGORIES . >> THEY SEEMED VERY PLEASED TO GET THE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS. I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE EMOTION

[2. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving execution of Job Order Authorization No. NCCP-011 in the amount of $139,523.50 under Job Order Contracting (JOC) Agreement No. 20240169-4/10 (RFP 3256-23) with LMC Corporation for Central Garage Truck Wash Facility Repairs and Updates; and related matters.]

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER TWO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING EXECUTION OF JOB ORDER IS IN THE AMOUNT OF 109,523 UNDER JOB ORDER CONTRACT AGREEMENT WITH

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LMC CORPORATION THROUGH THE CENTRAL GARAGE TRUCK WASHING

FACILITY REPAIRS AND UPDATES. >> PUBLIC WORKS REQUESTING PARKS TO BE ABLE TO INSTALL THE TRUCK WASH MEETING THE TC CUE REQUIREMENTS, RIGHT NOW, IT HAS BEEN ON HOLD A COUPLE YEARS.

>> I KNOW YOU ASKED BEFORE AND YOU WANT TO USE THE ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND? IS THAT A LOT OF EXPENSE?

>> YES-MAN WE CHECKED WITH THE AUDITOR.

>> THIS WILL NOT IMPACT ABILITY TO TAKE HER ROADS WHEN THEY CALL OR ANYTHING? NOT GOING TO PUT US IN A BIND? YOU WON'T TELL ME WE

DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET FOR IT? >> YES MA'AM WE ARE FINE.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES

[3. Discuss and consider approval of a Supplemental Agreement No. 3 between Nueces County and Richter Architects for the Hilltop Community Center Facility Project for additional design value engineering services of $112,368.00 and construction phase services of $422,492.54 for a total cost of $534,860.54.]

UNANIMOUSLY. IN A NUMBER THREE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER THREE BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY AND RICHTER ARCHITECTS FOR THE HILLTOP COMMUNITY CENTER FACILITY PROJECT AND COMMISSIONER PUSLEY.

>> YES-MAN THINK YOU. I WORKED CLOSELY WITH TERESA PRIOR TO CONSTANCE ARRIVING, WORKED WITH HER TO WORK OUT THESE BALANCES AND THESE ARE AMOUNTS FOR THE ARCHITECT FOR THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE SO FAR SO I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> WE HAVE EMOTION AND SECOND. SOMETHING TO ADD? I KNOW WE ARE MEETING WITH THEM, THIS WILL NOT IMPACT ANY OF THOSE DECISIONS

WITH ARPA FUNDS. >> THE DECISION ALREADY MADE.

>> THIS IS ADDITIONAL TO WHAT REALLY PAID?

>> YES. TOTAL COST . >> WHERE TO THAT ?

>> BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE OF THE BUILDING AND THE BUILDING GOT REDUCED AND REDUCED AGAIN. WE DID WORK AND HE HAD TO WORK

TO REDUCE AGAIN. >> WE WENT THROUGH IT WITH A

FINE TOOTH COMB. >> YOU HAD THE MOTION? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> THANK YOU JUDGE, THANK YOU

COMMISSIONER. >> MOVING ON AUDITOR ITEM NUMBER

ONE. >> I WILL ABSTAIN ON THREE, THAT'S MORE THAN I THOUGHT HE TALKED ABOUT, BUT I KNOW COMMISSIONER PUSLEY HAS WORKED ON THIS.

[1. Approve Budget Amendment No. 06 for Fiscal Year 2024-2025.]

>> WE DID THAT IN THE BEGINNING, TOO. ITEM E ONE APPROVED BUDGET

AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX. LISA. >> YES JUDGE I RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT BUT COMMIT BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX FOR APPROVAL. YOU WILL NOTICE WE ARE REALIGNING THE BUDGET WITH DECISIONS MADE IN THE LAST COMMISSIONERS COURT REGARDING THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THE CRI FORENSIC AUDIT. IT WAS APPROVED FEBRUARY 19 ITEMS THREE A 4 AND FIVE REALLOCATING BUDGET FROM TRANSFERS UP TO 1285 FOR THE COST OF THE AUDIT AND WE HAVE FOUR DEPARTMENTS MOVING FUNDING WITHIN TO COVER EXPENSES THAT THEY HAVE INCURRED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. WE RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT

FOR APPROVAL. >> MOTION TO PASS, I KNOW TERESA WORKS ON THESE CLOSELY TO FIND THE FUNDS FOR THE FORENSIC AUDIT. MOTION AND SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE EMOTION PASSES AND COMMISSIONER

[2. Approve Project Budget Amendment No. 010.]

GONZALEZ HAS STEPPED OUT OF THE ROOM. ITEM NUMBER TWO. APPROVED

BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER 10. >> PROJECT BUDGET AMENDMENT 10 IS TO REALLOCATE FUNDS AS PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONERS COURT. WHENEVER YOU BRING THE AGENDA ITEM, WE PROPOSE A FUNDING SOURCE AND THEN THERE COMMISSIONERS COURT FOLLOWING THE ITEM WE DO THE BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THOSE ITEMS

AND WE ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL. >> FOR EVERYTHING WE DID IN THE LAST COURT, CHANGING AND PAYING FOR ALL PROJECTS I WILL MAKE MOTION TO PASS. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES WITH COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ STILL OUT. ITEM NUMBER

[3. Discuss and review the Monthly Financial Report for Fiscal year 2024-2025 ending January 31, 2025, and related matters.]

THREE, DISCUSS AND REVIEW MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT FOR

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FISCAL YEAR 24-25 ENDING JANUARY ENDING JANUARY 31.

>> YES, THIS IS THE UNAUDITED AND UNADJUSTED MONTHLY EXPENSE REPORT FOR THE MONTHS ENDING JANUARY 31, 2025. AS YOU CAN SEE, ON PAGE 4 AND FIVE THE GENERAL FUND HAS COLLECTED 39.2% OF BUDGETED REVENUE YEAR TO DATE. OF THAT THE HIGHEST CONTRIBUTION IS FROM THE CURRENT PRETTY TAXES WHICH WE HAVE RECEIVED 63.3% OF THE BUDGETED REVENUE. EXPENSES FOR THE SAME QUARTER , FROM LAST YEAR OR THE REVENUE EXCUSE ME COLLECTED FOR THE SAME QUARTER AS LAST YEAR. WE HAVE COLLECTED 3,623,000 WE HAVE COLLECTED $3,623,321 MORE THIS YEAR THAN WE DID FOR THE SAME TIME PERIOD LAST YEAR. GOING FORWARD TO EXPENDITURES ON PAGE 16. YOU WILL SEE THAT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CORRECTIONS CONTINUES TO BE THE HIGHEST COST OF NUECES COUNTY AT 37.2% OR $15.9 MILLION YEAR TO DATE. ON PAGE 17, WE WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THERE IS AN ERROR IN WORKDAY REGARDING THE STORE INVENTORY CAUSING THE OFFICE EXPENSE AND SUPPLY TO BE LOWER THAT IT ACTUALLY IS. IT IS ADJUSTING THE COST OF THE INVENTORY WE'RE HOLDING AS EXPENSE INSTEAD OF ASSET. WE ARE WORKING WITH TO FIX THIS. PURCHASING IS AWARE AND WE ARE MAKING JOURNAL ENTRIES TO CORRECT EVERY MONTH.

>> THIS IS THE CORRECT AMOUNT? >> WE ARE CORRECTING AS IT COMES THROUGH YES MA'AM. THE FINANCING RESOURCES TRANSFERS OUT AT 6.2 MILLION YEAR TO DATE. MOVING FORWARD TO YOUR EXPENSES, AGAIN EXPENSES YEAR-OVER-YEAR ARE 3,873,000 $3,873,751 MORE THIS YEAR THAN THEY WERE AT THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR.

>> WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THAT TO?

>> INCREASED COST. >> INCREASE IN BUDGET, TOO.

>> THE BUDGET INCREASED, IT IS NOT HAVE YEAR-OVER-YEAR BUDGET INCREASE, BUT YES THERE WAS A BUDGETARY INCREASE.

>> SO HOW MUCH IS THIS OVER AND HOW MUCH IS BECAUSE THE BUDGET

WENT UP? >> ARE WE ALREADY IN A BIND?

>> THIS IS JUST REGULAR INCREASED EXPENDITURES WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE BUDGET. WE ARE NOT OVERBUDGET.

>> THE WAY YOU PRESENTED MADE IT SOUND 3.8 MILLION OVERBUDGET SO

BE CAREFUL ON THAT. >> WE ARE NOT OVERBUDGET, WE HAVE CURRENTLY SPENT PER THE PERCENTAGE . WHERE DID IT GO? FOR THE GENERAL FUND WE HAVE SPENT , TRYING TO GET THERE.

PAGE 68 . WE HAVE CURRENTLY SPENT, INCLUDING TRANSFERS, WE HAVE 66% OF THE BUDGET LEFT REMAINING WHICH PUTS US RIGHT ON TRACK WITH BUDGET EXPENDITURES YEAR TO DATE.

>> CONSTANCE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? DID YOU WILL RECEIVE IT? YES, I'M ASSUMING YOU GET IT JUST LIKE WE DO.

>> IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, THAT IS YOUR UNAUDITED UNADJUSTED FINANCIAL REPORT JANUARY 31, 2025.

>> DO WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION OR ANYTHING?

[1. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving execution of a two (2) year subscription agreement with GovernmentJobs.com, Inc. dba NEOGOV, in the total amount of $9,918.00; and related matters.]

>> JUST TO RECEIVE. >> THEN MOVING ON ITEM F HUMAN RESOURCES. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING EXECUTION OF A TWO-YEAR SUBSCRIPTION AGREEMENT WITH THE GOVERNMENT JOBS WEBSITE IN THE AMOUNT OF $9918 AND FUNDING SOURCE WOULD BE THE HR DEPARTMENT AND EMPLOYEE BENEFIT FUND TO GET OUR JOB APPLICATIONS

OUT? >> IT GOES NATIONWIDE AND WE HAD THIS PRIOR TO WORKDAY. SO IT WOULD GIVE MORE EXPOSURE.

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>> YES AND WE APPRECIATE EXPOSURE. FUNDING SOURCE IS THERE? MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UNANIMOUS WITH THE EXCLUSION OF

[1. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving execution of a cooperative contract purchase with Omnia Partners/Insight Public Sector, Inc., under Cobb County, GA Cooperative Contract No. 23-6692-03, for a 2-year Commvault Cloud Hyperscale subscription, in the total amount of $49,658.78, and related matters.]

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ WHO IS STILL OUT.

>> MOVING ON I.T., DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING EXECUTION OF CONTRACT FOR PURCHASE PARTNERS INSIGHT PUBLIC SECTOR. COOPERATIVE ACCOUNT CONTRACT FOR A TWO-YEAR CLOUD HYPER SKILL SUBSCRIPTION AMOUNT OF 49,000 AMOUNT OF $49,658.78 AND THIS IS BUDGETED UNDER I.T. DEPARTMENT, RENEWABLE YOU HAVE ALREADY DONE. ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT IT?

>> YES MAN JUST A BACKUP SYSTEM TO BACK UP DATA WITH AND WE JUST CAME OFF A THREE-YEAR AGREEMENT, DOING TWO , MAKING IT A TOTAL OF FIVE TO CHECK FOR END OF LIFE WITHIN FIVE YEARS. PAYMENT IS FOR BOTH YEARS AND IT IS FULLY BUDGETED.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MOTION AND SECOND TO PROVE.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? FOUR AND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ STILL OUT FOR THIS VOTE. LOOKS LIKE I THINK WE ARE READY TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. IS THERE ANYTHING WE MISSED? ANYBODY WANT TO CATCH ME BEFORE I START? WE'RE GOING TO

[4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.]

BRING IT INTO EXECUTIVE. YES. EXECUTIVE SESSION, PUBLIC NOTICE IS GIVEN THAT THE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY ELECT TO GO INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ANYTIME DURING THE MEETING TO DISCUSS MATTERS LISTED ANYWHERE ON THE AGENDA, WHEN AUTHORIZED BY THE PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO THE EXTENT THERE HAS BEEN A PAST PRACTICE OF DISTINGUISHING ITEMS FOR PUBLIC DELIBERATION AND THOSE FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE PUBLIC IS ADVISED THAT THE COURT IS DEPARTING FROM THAT PRACTICE, AND RESERVES THE RIGHT TO DISCUSS ANY LISTED AGENDA ITEMS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WHEN AUTHORIZED BY LAW TO DO SO. IN THE EVENT THE COMMISSIONE RS COURT ELECTS TO GO INTO EXECU TIVE SESSION REGARDING AN AGENDA ITEM, THE SECTION OR SECTIONS O F THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT AUTHORIZ ING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL B E PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER. IN ACCORD ANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY OF THE G OVERNMENT CODE, VERNON S TEXAS C ODES, SECTIONS 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, THE C OMMISSIONERS COURT WILL HOLD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH ATTORNEY(S) INCLUDI NG MATTERS RELATED TO LITIGATION ; DELIBERATE REGARDING REAL PROPERTY, PROSPECTIVE GIFT(S), P ERSONNEL MATTERS, INCLUDING TERM INATION, COUNTY ADVISORY BODIES, SECURITY DEVICES, AND/OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIO NS AND OTHER MATTERS THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN AN EXEC UTIVE SESSION. UPON COMPLETION O F THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY IN AN OPEN SESSION TAKE SUC DISCUSSED IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSI ON. TODAY'S ITEM A IS CONSULT WITH COUNTY ATTORNEY AND OUTSIDE COUNSEL ON LEGAL MATTER S RELATED TO TRIAL COURT CAUSE NO. 4704, NUECES COU NTY, TEXAS AND NUECES COUNTY APP RAISAL DISTRICT V.

SAN PATRICIO COUNTY, TEXAS, IN T HE 135TH JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT , REFUGIO COUNTY, TEXAS; AND RELATED MATTERS (TEX.

GOV T CODE ÷ 551.071); DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND TAKE ACTION IN REGULAR SESSION IF NEE DED. ITEM B CONSULT WITH COUNTY ATTORNEY ON LEGAL MATTERS RELATE D TO THE FEBRUARY 28, 2025 CLAIM OF RICHARD HUGHES IV ; AND RELAT ED MATTERS (TEX. GOV T CODE ÷ 55 1.071); DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND TAKE ACTION IN REG

ULAR SESSION IF NEEDED >> ITEM C CONSULT WITH COUNTY AT TORNEY AND OUTSIDE COUNSEL ON LE GAL MATTERS RELATED TO SARA LONGORIA V. NUECES COUNTY, 2:25- CV-00012, IN THE SOUTHERN DISTRI CT OF TEXAS, (TEX GOV T CODE ÷ 551.071); DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND TAKE ACTION IN REG ULAR SESSION IF NEEDED. DISCUSS CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION IF NEEDED. CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO THE FEBRUARY 19 ITEM D 2025 DEMAND BY DEANNA KING; AN D RELATED MATTERS (TEX. GOV T CO DE ÷ 551.071); DISCUSS, CONSIDER , AND TAKE ACTION IN REGULAR SES SION IF NEEDED. ITEM E CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO EEOC CHARGE 451-2025-00822; AND RELATED MATT ERS (TEX. GOV T CODE ÷ 551.071);

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AND TAKE ACTION IN REGULAR SESSI ON IF NEEDED. ITEM F CONSULT WITH COUNTY ATTORNEY REG ARDING LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO EXECUTION OF AGREEMENT FOR RECORDS WAREHOUSE LEASE AND RELATED MATTERS (TEX. GOV'T CODE ÷ 551.072); DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND TAKE ACTION IN REG ULAR SESSION IF NEEDED AND WE ARE BRINGING IN ITEM 3 A6. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER SELECTION OF EDR ARCHITECTS TO PROVIDE ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE PAVILION FACILITY AND RENOVATIONS PROJECT APPROVE EXECUTION A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT AND RELATED

MATTERS 551.071 IS THAT GOOD? >> I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE SUFFICIENT AND ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT FIT WITHIN 0571 WILL KEEP OUT OF THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN NO VOTE

UNDER 0725. >> OKAY TO NEED TO ADD ANY OTHER

NUMBERS TO THAT? >> I THINK 071 IS FINE.

>> THEN IT IS TO DUCK 49 AND WE'RE GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>>> THANK YOU, WE ARE BACK , IT IS 4:28 FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[A. Consult with County Attorney and outside counsel on legal matters related to Trial Court Cause No. 4704, Nueces County, Texas and Nueces County Appraisal District v. San Patricio County, Texas, In the 135th Judicial District Court, Refugio County, Texas; and related matters (Tex. Gov’t Code § 551.071); Discuss, consider, and take action in regular session if needed.]

ITEM 4 A I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR US?

>> THERE WE GO. OKAY LET'S SEE, I WILL DO 4 A FIRST AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXPEDITED PAYMENT $20 FOR LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO TRIAL COURT CAUSE NUMBER 4704 APPRAISAL DISTRICT VERSUS SAN PATRICIO COUNTY , TEXAS 135TH JUDICIAL COURT .

>> DO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES

[D. Consult with the County Attorney regarding legal matters related to the February 19, 2025 demand by Deanna King; and related matters (Tex. Gov’t Code § 551.071); discuss, consider, and take action in regular session if needed.]

UNANIMOUSLY. 4 D WE HAVE AN ACTION. HER DEMAND IS COUNTER TO OUR NUECES COUNTY POLICY , WE ARE DENYING THE FEBRUARY 19 THE FEBRUARY 19, 2025 DEMAND OF MS. THING AND MAKING THAT WOULD BE

MY MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? 4

[F. Consult with County Attorney regarding legal matters related to execution of agreement for Records Warehouse lease and related matters (Tex. Gov't Code § 551.072); discuss, consider, and take action in regular session if needed.]

F. >> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM F SUBJECT TO ADDING ARTICLE 11 SECTION 7 AS PER STATE CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENTS ALL GOVERNMENT ENTITY CONTRACTS.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE MOTION AND SECOND WITH THE ADDITION OF THE LANGUAGE , ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AND ONE MORE

[6. Discuss and consider selection of EDR Architects, PLLC to provide architectural and engineering design services for the Briscoe King Pavilion New Facility and Renovations Project; approve execution of a Professional Services Contract, and related matters.]

ITEM 3 A SIX GOING BACK TO THE REGULAR AGENDA MR. CHESNEY.

>> YES MA'AM. MY MOTION IS TO HIRE EDR ARCHITECT SUBJECT TO SATISFACTORY CONTRACT ACCEPTABLE TO COUNTY ATTORNEY BROUGHT BACK TO NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING IF SUCH CONTRACT CANNOT BE AGREED TO THEN RECOMMEND TO THE PARKS BOARD TO HIRE ANOTHER

ARCHITECT. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

SORRY, DISCUSSION. >> I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THE COURT THINKS FAVORABLY OF THE CURRENT ARCHITECT AND WE'RE HOPING THIS WILL BE RESOLVED, BUT SEVERAL PROVISIONS PROVIDED ARE NOT FAVORABLE AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT SO THE PURPOSE IS NOT TO HIRE ANOTHER ARCHITECT, IT IS TO GET THE CONTRACT WORKED OUT BECAUSE WE THINK HIGHLY OF THE ARCHITECT BUT THE CLAUSES PROVIDED BY HER ATTORNEY ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE TO THE COURT.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AGAIN.

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>> MOTION ON ITEM C , YOUR HONOR.

>> C? FROM EXECUTIVE? I DID NOT SEE THAT OR HAVE IT IN MY NOTES.

>> AUTHORIZE? >> NO NO NO.

>> WE DON'T NEED THAT? I THOUGHT YOU DID OKAY.

>> ONLY IF WE NEED AUTHORIZATION FOR PAYMENT.

>> GOTCHA. >> IF THERE ARE NO OTHER ITEMS

[ Adjournment in Memory (upon request)]

WE HAVE NOT TAKEN UP OR DO WE HAVE ANY ADJOURNMENTS IN MEMORY?

>> I DO JUDGE. >> WHOEVER IS READY CAN GO AHEAD

AND START. >> I HAVE THREE.

>> MY COUSIN , PROMOTED TO GLORY MARCH 1 TO GLORY MARCH 1, 2025 AT THE AGE OF 74, HE DIED PEACEFULLY SURROUNDED BY HIS LOVING FAMILY KNOWING HE WAS GOING TO BE WITH HIS HEAVENLY FATHER. TO BE BLESSED WITH ETERNAL LIFE. BORN IN CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS TO HIS PARENTS . NO TUNING IN HEAVEN, HIS PARENTS AND HIS BROTHER . NEPHEWS AND HIS GREAT NEPHEWS HE IS SURVIVED BY THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE, HIS WIFE OF 55 YEARS.

HIS SONS , GRANDCHILDREN NAVY, HE RETIRED IN 2015 AFTER 38 YEARS. HE WAS A MAN OF STRONG FAITH. A FOLLOWER OF JESUS WHEN HE ACCEPTED JESUS AS HIS LORD AND SAVIOR. UNWAVERING FAITH IN JESUS WAS AN INSPIRATION TO ALL WHO KNEW HIM. HIS LIFE WAS GUIDED BY THE TEACHING OF JESUS, PHOENIX LOVED STUDYING AND LIVED HIS LIFE ACCORDING TO CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES. HE WAS A DEVOTED CHRISTIAN AND A STRONG BELIEVER IN GOD. FELIX LOVED LISTENING TO PRAISE AND WORSHIP MUSIC DAILY AND INVEST IN THE LORD'S PRESENCE. IN HIS PRESENCE HE GAINED STRENGTH TO DEAL WITH LIFE'S CHALLENGES. IN HIS PRESENCE HE WAS TAUGHT THE KNOWLEDGE. HE COULD LOSE HIMSELF FOR HOURS IN THE PRESENCE OF HIS HEAVENLY FATHER. FOR ALL WHO KNEW HIM , THEY KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE. FELIX , HE WAS YOUNGER THAN I, WAS ALWAYS LAUGHING AND SMILING. ALWAYS MAKING JOKES, TRULY A DALLAS COWBOYS FAN WHICH I DID NOT AGREE WITH , BUT ANYWAY , NO MATTER WHAT YOU NEVER MISSED A DALLAS GAME. IN A WAY, HE IS GOING TO BE MISSED BY HIS FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

SO, PRAYERS GO OUT TO THE FAMILY.

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>> CONDOLENCES TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AS WELL. COMMISSIONER

CHESNEY? >> HAVE SEVERAL CONDOLENCES. THE FIRST ONE IS LEN ANDREWS MARCH 16, 2025, LEN AND BARRY ANDREWS RENOWNED IN CORPUS CHRISTI AND DALLAS FOR THEIR PHILANTHROPIC CONTRIBUTIONS , FOUND A DISTURBING COMPANY ONE OF THE NATIONS LEADING BEERS IN SPIRIT DISTRIBUTORSHIP. HELPING OTHERS IN THEIR LOCAL COMMUNITY EXPANDING BUSINESS TO DALLAS-FORT WORTH SPONSORING COUNTLESS EVENTS, BELIEVED AND SAID GIVING BACK IS WHAT WE DO THIS INCLUDES SUPPORTING THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY BOTH CORPUS CHRISTI AND DALLAS FOR 30 YEARS, GENEROUSLY HOSTING THE CORPUS CHRISTI A TIMES AT THEIR CELL TEXAS RANCH AND DISTRIBUTION CENTER, THEY SUPPORTED M.D. CANCER CENTER IN DALLAS CONTRIBUTING TO CANCER RESEARCH . PROUD MEMBER OF THE CRYSTAL CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION HALL OF FAME HONOREE RECOGNIZED FOR STYLE AND COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY. VALLEY SERVED AS COCHAIR FOR THE LAURA BUSH INSTITUTE FOR WOMEN'S HEALTH ADVISORY BOARD WAS A MEMBER OF THE VITAL MIND ORGANIZATION BENEFITING CARDIOLOGY RESEARCH AT UT SOUTHWESTERN. AVID DALLAS SPORTS FAN NEVER MISSED A HOME GAME AND LOVE SPENDING TIME. WE DEFINITELY WANT TO EXTEND CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY, UNFORTUNATELY BARRY PRECEDED HER IN DEATH AFTER 56 YEARS IN MARRIAGE NOT LONG AGO AND SHE IS SURVIVED BY HER TWO CHILDREN AND THEIR SPOUSES AND CHILDREN.

CONDOLENCES. SECOND IS SCOTT DUNCAN WENT TO BE WITH HEAVENLY FATHER MARCH 4, 2025 BORN IN HOUSTON, TEXAS LIVED IN CORPUS CHRISTI FOR A LONG TIME. SCOTT WAS VERY PROUD TO BE PART OF SUCH A LONG-STANDING AND PRESTIGIOUS LAW FIRM SERVING ALL OF SOUTH TEXAS OF WHICH GREW FOUR OFFICES AND IN 2014 HE JOINED MIKE JENSEN AS GENERAL COUNSEL FOR DIRECTIONAL SERVICES AND OILFIELD SERVICES UNTIL 2017 WHEN HE JOINED OTHER LONGTIME CLIENT FOR MAGNUM TOOLS INTERNATIONAL. SPENT THE REMAINDER OF HIS TIME THERE. SCOTT WISHED TO BE REMEMBERED AS A GOOD FATHER AND HUSBAND SECOND AS A TRUSTED PARTNER AND FRIEND.

A SET OF HIS PROFESSION SCOTT GOT INTO COMPANIONSHIP WITH MANY FRIENDS PURSUING HOBBIES WHICH INCLUDED GOLF, FISHING, AUTOMOBILE RACING AND MOTORCYCLE RIDING. DEEPEST CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY. NEXT LINDA STANTON MEMBER FILLS A CHRISTIAN CHURCH PRECEDED IN DEATH BY HER PARENTS. HER DAUGHTER AND SON-IN-LAW LIVE IN CORPUS CHRISTI, HER DEEP THINGS EXEMPLIFIED BY THE HUMBLE MANNER SHE LIVED OUT HER FAVORITE BIBLE VERSE, CHRIST LIVES IN ME AND THE LIFE I LIVE IN THE FLESH I LIVE BY FAITH IN THE SON OF GOD WHO LOVED ME AND GAVE HIMSELF FOR ME. LINDA WILL BE GREATLY MISSED BUT SHE WAS GREETED INTO THE HEAVENLY FATHER'S OPENS ARMS. CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY SPECIFICALLY TO HER DAUGHTER AMY AND HUSBAND. SHERRY PRUITT WENT TO BE WITH THE LORD FEBRUARY 22, 2025 SHE GREW UP IN TYLER, TEXAS. MET HER FUTURE HUSBAND BILL PRUITT THEY MOVED TO CORPUS CHRISTI WHERE THEY HAD THEIR THREE DAUGHTERS , THEY WERE MARRIED 57 YEARS UNTIL BILL'S PASSING IN 2017. LONGTIME EDUCATOR TAUGHT AT MARY CAROL HIGH SCHOOL INSTRUMENTAL IN THE FIRST REALTY AT THE HIGH SCHOOL EARNED HER DEGREE AT TEXAS A& M UNIVERSITY. AFTER RETURNING TAKING MANY TRIPS ACROSS THE COUNTRY SHE LOVED THE CHURCH, ACTING MEMBERS OF ST. LUKE'S UNITED METHODIST CHURCH, A BREAST CANCER SURVIVOR IN 1997 VOLUNTEERED FOR THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY. SHE LOVES SPORTS, HAD SEASON TICKETS AND WERE AVID SPURS AND ASTROS FANS.

SHE HAD A LOVER HOCKEY WATCHING GAMES WITH THEIR CHERISHED FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS. THE MOTHER OF A YOUNG LADY THAT I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL WITH, NOT SO YOUNG ANYMORE SO CONDOLENCES TO DAN AND HER SISTERS AND ALL THE FAMILY PASSING.

>> THANK YOU AND CONDOLENCES TO EACH OF THOSE FAMILIES , AS WELL. ANY OTHERS?

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