[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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>> I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. JANUARY 22ND, 2025. IT IS 11:10 A.M.. WE CAN CALL FOR THE INVOCATION WHICH WILL BE LED BY PASTOR RICK PERERA FROM BELIEF CHURCH.
>> IT IS MY HONOR TO BE HERE WITH YOU FOLKS TODAY. I ALWAYS GET A KICK OUT OF BEING HERE WITH YOU FOLKS. PLEASE EXCUSE ME IF I AM SMILING A LOT. LET'S GO TO THE LORD IN PRAYER. HEAVENLY AND MOST GRACIOUS FATHER, YOU WHO ARE INFALLIBLE AND WONDERFUL IN ALL OF YOUR WAYS, I AM ONE OF MANY IN THIS CHAMBER TODAY THAT IS GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE YOU AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY. THIS BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY THAT WE GET TO CALL HOME. WE DO IT WITH A HEART OF GRATITUDE, FATHER. MAY EVERYTHING WE DO BEGIN WITH YOUR INSPIRATION AND CONTINUE WITH YOUR GUIDANCE, FATHER GOD.
WE PLACE IT ALL IN YOUR HANDS, KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE OUR BEST INTERESTS IN MIND ALWAYS. MAY EVERYTHING WE DO BEGIN WITH YOUR INSPIRATION, FATHER GOD AND CONTINUE WITH YOUR GUIDANCE. IN THE MIDDLE OF EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING HERE TODAY, MAY IT BE DONE WITH LOVE AND IN YOUR TIMING, FATHER GOD. WE PRAY THAT YOU GUIDE AND DIRECT ALL OF OUR STEPS THIS DAY, FATHER. MAY THE SPEECHES AND ACTIONS REFLECT YOUR LOVE. MAY IT BE DONE IN YOUR PERFECT TIMING.
ALL THIS, WE ASK IN JESUS' NAME. AMEN.
>> LET US RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG; I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
>> THANK YOU. AS PRESIDING OFFICER CALLED ALL MEMBERS PRESENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF JUDGE SCOTT -- IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE START TIME WAS 11 CLINTON ON JANUARY 22ND, 2025 AND THE NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE, THE COMMISSIONERS COURTROOM. I CERTIFY THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT. LET'S GO TO
[1. In recognition of Rebecca Velasquez-Rendon's 30 years of service to Nueces County.]
[2. In recognition of Linda Harrison's 35 years of service to Nueces County.]
[3. In recognition of Judge Nanette Hassette's 30 years of service to Nueces County.]
[1. In recognition of the 2024 Calallen Wildcats High School Football Team for a successful season.]
ITEM D. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST? SEEING NONE, WE MOVE ON TO ITEMS E AND F. THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO SCHEDULE -- TABLE UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING ON FEBRUARY 5TH. THAT IS FOR ITEMS E, 1 THROUGH 3, AND F, ITEM 1. MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR,[G. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]
AYE. >> AYE.. ALL OPPOSED? WE HAVE
PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WE OPENED UP OFFICIALLY ON SUNDAY AT 6:00 P.M. WE HAD 10 TO 12 PEOPLE. IT INCREASED. WE HAVE HAD 20 TO 30 PEOPLE AT ANY GIVEN TIME. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE CITY OF ROB STONE FOR PROVIDING POLICE OVERNIGHT FOR US. THEY HAVE ALSO PROVIDED STAFF TO HELP US ALONG WITH THAT. THANK YOU TO THE SALVATION ARMY. THEY HAVE BEEN PROVIDING SACK LUNCHES FOR US. THANK YOU TO AGB. THEY HAVE BEEN PROVIDING FOOD AND THINGS WE HAVE THERE.
WE HAVE BEEN IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH OUR PARTNERS IN THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. WE WERE ABLE TO LOAN THEM ABOUT 80 COTS TO HELP THEM SUPPLY THEIR GYMNASIUM, AND WE HAVE TAKEN SOME OF THEIR OVERFLOW CLIENTS FROM THE GYMNASIUM WHEN THEY GOT FULL. SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD. WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN
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PLACE. WE PLAN TO STAY OPEN AGAIN TONIGHT, AS THE TEMPERATURES WILL DIP AGAIN BELOW FREEZING. WE WILL SUSPEND OPERATIONS TOMORROW AROUND NOON. SO IT WILL JUST GO BACK TO NORMAL OPERATIONS AFTER THAT. THIS WEEK, BEING THAT EVERYTHING IS BACK OPEN, ALL OF OUR WARMING CENTERS ARE BACK OPEN. THOSE ARE THE OTHER COMMUNITY CENTERS WE HAVE OPEN, AND ALSO ARE TWO LIBRARIES. THANK YOU TO CCRTA. THEY HAVE BEEN A HUGE PARTNER WITH US. THEY HAVE BEEN PHYSICALLY AT OUR BECK AND CALL TO GET PEOPLE TO US, AND MAKING SURE THEY HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO GO AND KEEP WARM IN ROBSTOWN, SO WE APPRECIATE THEIR HELP. I'M READY FOR ANY QUESTIONS.>> IN PUBLIC COMMENT, WE CAN'T ASK ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT BATHROOM AXIS, SHOWER ACCESS.
>> WELL, YEAH. PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE AN OVERNIGHT WARMING CENTER. WE ARE NOT EQUIPPED TO PROVIDE SHOWERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT . WHEN YOU ARE AN OVERNIGHT WARMING CENTER, BASICALLY, YOUR EQUIPPED TO TAKE IN PEOPLE, PROVIDE THEM SHELTER AND WARMTH AND FOOD, BUT THAT IS THE LIMITATIONS OF RESOURCES. SO, I THINK IT HAS WORKED OUT WELL.
THE CITY IS WORKING WITH SISTER TERESA AND GOOD SAM NOW TO GET PEOPLE AROUND TO TAKE SHOWERS. THEN THEY WILL BE BUSING HOURS
BACK TO ROBSTOWN. >> THANK YOU, DEE , FOR THE UPDATE. WE APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE TO MAKE THIS
HAPPEN. >> YES. EDWIN AND HIS STAFF HAVE BEEN PHENOMENAL. OUR FOUR FOLKS HAVE BEEN WORKING 12 TO 15 HOURS PER DAY AND HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB, SO.
>> I'M SURE A JUDGE WILL ASK FOR A MORE THOROUGH UPDATE AT OUR NEXT MEETING . THIS ALLOWS THE LISTENING AND WATCHING PUBLIC RIGHT NOW TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE EFFORTS.
[1. Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone No. 6 (Barisi Village)]
>> ONCE THIS IS OVER, WE WILL PROVIDE AND -- AN INCIDENT
ACTION PLAN. >> ON TO ITEM H. BOARD REAPPOINTMENTS. WE HAVE TAX REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER 6.
THAT IS ALSO KNOWN AS BARISI VILLAGE.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION FOR HIM TO BE LEADER OF BARISI VILLAGE REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER SIX.
>> I WILL SECOND THAT. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
>> IF WE CAN JUST GET WORD TO THE CITY OF MR. MOODY ON THAT.
I THINK THERE -- THEY ARE WAITING TO HEAR FROM US ON
THAT. >> WE ARE GOING TO GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AND AFTER THAT, WE WILL TAKE A BREAK FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM. THIS IS FOR THE PUBLIC THAT IS HERE.
FOR THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING, WE WILL TAKE A BREAK FOR THAT
[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]
UPDATE WITH OUR ATTORNEYS, BUT WE WILL GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA RIGHT NOW AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY ITEMS TO PULL. IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT ALL ITEMS.>> I MOVE. >> I VOTE TO REMOVE I AND P.
>> P AS IN PAUL. >> I AND P. ANY OTHERS? I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REMAINING ITEMS?
>> I MOVE TO ACCEPT ITEMS A THROUGH U ON THE AGENDA, EXCEPT
[I. Approve recommendation from the Interim Human Resources Director to appoint Crystal Drillen to the position of Nueces County Librarian, effective the next pay period beginning January 18, 2025.]
>> ITEM LETTER I IN THE CONSENT AGENDA.
>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ'S ITEM. DO WE HAVE OUR INTERIM HR
DIRECTOR? >> I JUST DON'T KNOW. WHO IS SUPPOSED TO ANSWER THIS ONE HERE?
>> LET ME JUST GO BACK A LITTLE BIT HERE. I THINK WE PULLED THIS THE LAST TIME. WE TABLED IT. I DON'T REMEMBER SAYING
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THAT WE WERE GOING TO PUT IT BACK INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA. I DON'T KNOW. IS THIS SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN NOW HIRE DEPARTMENT HEADS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? THEY CAN GO BEHIND DOORS AND DO IT, OR HAVE THE READINGS. THE QUESTION IS, CAN WE HIRE GOVERNMENT HEADS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ? BECAUSE IF WE SEE IT THERE AGAIN, WE ARE GOING TOSAY IT IS NOT POLICY. >> AS YOU MENTIONED, COMMISSIONER, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE HAD IT, AND JUST TO SPEEDED UP BECAUSE THERE WAS A TECHNICALITY IN THE LAST ONE.
WE DIDN'T HAVE BACKUP DOCUMENTATION. THAT IS A STANDARD PRACTICE THAT WE ALWAYS HONOR. SO, BECAUSE OF THAT TECHNICALITY, WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PUT IT ONTO THE CONSENT -- THE JUDGE UNDERSTANDS AND AGREES TO IT. I OVERSEE THE AGENDA WITH OUR CHIEF OF STAFF. THEY AGREED AND ALLOWED THAT TO HAPPEN. I CAN JUST BE A QUICK ITEM, BUT NOW, OBVIOUSLY, THERE IS A CHANCE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. SO WE HAVE A CHART HERE TO REPRESENT ANY CLARIFICATIONS ON THIS.
THAT WAS MORE OF A COURT ACTION. IT WASN'T ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED OR THAT CAME FROM HR, BUT, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE
YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THAT? >> NO SIR. IF THE COURT TAKES THIS ACTION BY VOTE IN CONSENT OR IN REGULAR AFTER DISCUSSION, I DON'T THINK IT CHANGES THE EFFECT OF THE VOTE.
>> COMMISSIONER, SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT HERE?
>> WE PULLED IT. YES. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO STATE THAT IN COURT, IT WAS REQUESTED FOR IT TO COME BACK ON THE
CONSENT AGENDA. >> MY BAD. OKAY? I TAKE THE BLAME FOR THAT, TOO. SO, I'M JUST SAYING, I THINK THIS SHOULD'VE BEEN THE REGULAR AGENDA. JUST SHORT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE ITEM. I DON'T WANT IT TO COME BACK LATER ON WHEN WE DISCUSS IT. THAT IS NOT WHAT POLICY SAYS.
. YOU MIGHT HEAR THAT. BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE. I THOUGHT IT SHOULD BE ON THE REGULAR AGENDA. I WENT BACK AND LOOKED.
LIKE I SAID, MY BAD. I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO TABLE IT. SO, MY BAD. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING THIS THE CORRECT WAY.
BECAUSE IT MIGHT HAPPEN AGAIN. WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY THAT WE PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA, AND IT SHOULDN'T BE ON THE REGULAR AGENDA, I DON'T THINK. WE DIDN'T TAKE NO ACTION. IT WAS TABLED. WE CAN COME BACK FOR THE CONSENT
AGENDA. RIGHT? >> I DON'T THINK THE COURT POLICIES SPEAK TO THIS. NORWOOD STATUTE. -- NOR WOULD STATUTE.
SPOKE OKAY. SO MOVED. >> SECOND.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE
IN FAVOR, AYE. >> CONGRATULATIONS, KRYSTAL, FOR TAKING THIS OFFICIAL FINAL FORM.
>> WE APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE SO FAR IN THIS POSITION. YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.
[P. Approve bond amount of $5,000 for the appointed Board of Park Commissioners (Coastal Parks).]
>> THANK YOU. >> ON TO ITEM P AS IN PAUL.
APPROVE BOND AMOUNT OF $5,000 FOR THE APPOINTED BOARD OF PARK
COMMISSIONERS. >> IT DOESN'T SAY WHERE THE AMOUNT IS COMING FROM.
DOESN'T SAY THE FUNDING SOURCE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. OKAY.
>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE. THAT IS IT FOR CONSENT AGENDA.
WE HAVE ONE ITEM THAT WE WILL NEED TO TAKE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, AND SO WE WILL TAKE A BRIEF BREAK ON THAT. WE ANTICIPATE THIS TAKING 15 TO 30 MINUTES, MAYBE, AT THE MOST.
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THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE BUSINESS WITH THE COURT, I RECOMMENDTHAT YOU STAY CLOSE BY. >> OKAY. WE ARE GETTING AN INDICATION, PROBABLY CLOSER TO 30. YES SIR?
>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT. I WOULD SUGGEST ANY TIME WE HAVE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR COURT APPROVAL, WHERE WE ARE GOING TO MOVE MONEY FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER, THAT WE HAVE SOME SHORT DESCRIPTION OF WHERE THAT MONEY IS COMING FROM AND WHERE IT IS GOING TO. THAT IS PROBABLY A GOOD PUBLIC POLICY, AND THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO
KNOW. THANK YOU. >> THAT MAY BE A POLICY THAT WE
CAN BRING UP TO THE COURT. >> IT IS POSSIBLE. IT IS IN
THERE. >> JUST TO IDENTIFY IT BETTER
AND EASIER. >> PEOPLE DON'T KNOW POLICY, BUT THEY CAN SEE IT AND THEY CAN READ IT.
>> I UNDERSTAND. >> ALL RIGHT. I HAVE TO GET MY CHEATERS OUT. SO, WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION
NOW AT THIS TIME. >> I'M SORRY.
>> I'M GOING TO GO BACK. IF YOU LOOK AT BACKUP FOR THE ITEM YOU REFERENCED, IT SAYS WHERE YOU ARE COMING -- IT IS COMING FROM. THE STATUTE CLEARLY STATES THE OATH AND THE BOND WILL BE PLAYED -- THE BOARD WILL PAY THE COST OF THE BOND.
IT WASN'T ON THE SUMMARY SHEET, BUT IT WAS ON THE BACKUP. I DIDN'T SUBMIT THIS ITEM, SO I'M NOT STICKING UP FOR MYSELF, BUT IT IS IN THERE.
>> SO SOME CLARIFICATION OF ITEM P UNDER CONSENT. IF THERE
[4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.]
IS NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THOSE MATTERS LISTED ANYWHERE ON THE AGENDA OR AS OTHERWISE PERMITTED BY LAW. THE PUBLIC IS ADVISED THAT THE COURT IS DEPARTING FROM THAT PRACTICE AND RESERVES THE RIGHT TO DISCUSS ANY LISTED AGENDA ITEM IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. IN THE EVENT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT DOES THAT, THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE ANNOUNCED, WHICH IT IS NOW, IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 551.01. WE WILL HOLD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR MATTERS RELATED TO LITIGATION AND PERSONNEL MATTERS AND COUNTY ADVISORY PARTIES -- BODIES , SECURITY DEVICES, AND/OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND OTHER MATTERS THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. UPON COMPLETION OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY IN AN OPEN SESSION TAKE SUCH ACTION AS APPROPRI>> WE ARE CONVENING AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION. NO ACTION IS NEEDED. THE TIME IS 11:57 A.M. WE HAD SOMEONE COME IN LATE TO WANT TO GIVE A PUBLIC COMMENT, SO WE ARE GOING TO CALL UP MR. WILLIAM BILL CHISHOLM TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON TODAY'S AGENDA, AND SO MR. CHISHOLM, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. I'M SORRY. I'M CALLING THIS BACK TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. YES. I MEAN, NOT TO CONSENT. TODD PUBLIC
COMMENT. >> THANK YOU. MY CONCERN IS ABOUT THE COUNTY.
TAXES ALL THIS TIME. YOU APPROVED GIVING TWO POINT SOMETHING MILLION DOLLARS TO GIVE FRESHWATER TO A COLONIAL.
I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN, AND I HOPE IN THE FUTURE YOU WILL CONSIDER WHEN YOU GET BONUS MONEY LIKE THAT, TO PUT IN WATER PIPELINES UP 624 , WHERE FIRE HYDRANTS ARE SO FAR
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SO THAT THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN GET WATER TO HELP US FIGHT FIRES . IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE LOST SEVEN HOUSES IN THE 50 YEARS I HAVE BEEN THERE, WITH TWO PEOPLE BURNED. WE HAVE LOST -- WHEN WE LIVED OUT THERE, WE HAD A CONSTABLES. WE HAD SHERIFFS DEPARTMENTS TO PATROL THE AREAS. WE HAD MULTIPLE OTHER BENEFITS. ONE OF THEM WAS WHEN WE GOT HEAVY RAINS, THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER WOULD HAVE AN AIRPLANE DUST THE FIELDS TO HELP CONTROL THE MOSQUITOES.NOW, WE GET A LITTLE TRUCK. IT WON'T EVEN GO IN MY FRONT YARD. BUT MY BIG CONCERN IS, WE NEED TO GET SOME WAY TO GET WATER TO FIGHT FIRES. THEY HAVE A TANKER TRUCK. WHEN IT RUNS OUT OF WATER, IT HAS TO GO 18 MILES TO THE PUMP TO GET WATER TO COME BACK TO HELP FIGHT THE FIRE. YOU HAVE NOTHING LEFT BY THAT TIME. IF YOU'VE GOT MONEY TO GIVE TO COLONIALS -- THEY DON'T VOTE. THEY DON'T PAY TAXES. HOW ABOUT HELPING OUT THOSE OF US WHO DO. GIVE US A WATER PIPELINE THAT WE CAN PUT FIRE HYDRANTS ON TO PROTECT THAT RESIDENTIAL AREAS OUT THERE. THERE'S SEVEN OF THEM. AND A LOT OF THEM ARE 200, $300,000 HOMES. WE ARE ENTITLED TO SOMETHING, AREN'T WE? WE HAVE TWO SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES ON THE WEEKEND FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY. IF WE CALL FOR HELP, WE DON'T LOOK FOR IT FOR 30 MINUTES BECAUSE UNLESS HE IS JUST DRIVING AROUND, WE DON'T HAVE IT, SO WE HAVE PUT UP CAMERAS TO MONITOR THE HIGHWAYS AND ROADS SO IF ANYTHING HAPPENS, WE KNOW ALL THE TRAFFIC THAT WENT UP AND DOWN IT. WE HAVE CLEANED DITCHES. WE HAVE CLEANED OUT TREES OUT OF THE POWER LINES AND GOT
THREATENED WITH FINES. >> MR. CHISHOLM, YOUR TIME IS
UP. >> THANK YOU. PLEASE HELP US
OUT. WOULD YOU? >> I ANNOUNCED HIS NAME. DOES
HE NEED TO? >> CAN YOU GIVE YOUR FULL NAME?
>> WILLIAM CHARLES CHISHOLM. >> MR. CHISHOLM, IF YOU WANT TO REACH OUT TO CHIEF CLACK, HE HAS A PLAN THAT MAYBE HE CAN SHARE WITH YOU. JUST FOR CLARITY, IF SOMEONE FROM STAFF CAN HELP GET THAT PHONE NUMBER, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
>> HE CAN'T PUT IN THE WATER PIPELINE.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHISHOLM. >> THANK YOU.
>> I'M SORRY. MR. CHISHOLM, CAN YOU PROVIDE YOUR ADDRESS? WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO DO THAT?
>> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT, MR. CHISHOLM.
>> I THANK YOU. >> YES SIR. WITH NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, WE NOW GO INTO REGULAR AGENDA. AGENDA ITEM A1.
[3. Discuss and consider granting request by the applicant for a reduced dune permit fee for the approved Dune Protection Permit required for wetland fill on Mustang Island, Section 2, Block 1, Lot 52, 11.82 acres (DPP-04062023-na). The applicant is Ajit David.]
>> IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WANTED TO POTENTIALLY TABLE 3A3 BECAUSE I JUST GOT INFORMATION ON THAT ITEM THAT I NEED TO GET MORE ON BECAUSE IT WAS JUST HANDED TO ME AND I AM NOT READY ON THAT ITEM. I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THAT UNTIL OUR NEXT
MEETING. 3A3. >> THAT IS A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
[1. Discuss and consider ratifying and accepting the Nueces County Coastal Parks Board's recommendation for the Bob Hall Pier restaurant building design and all related matters.]
>> SO, NOW WE WILL GO TO ITEM 3A1. WE HAVE OUR VARIOUS ADVISERS ON THIS ISSUE. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION. GOOD TO SEE YOU. VERY IMPORTANT ITEM TODAY. SO, WE WILL GO TO THE PRESENTATION, UNLESS COMMISSIONER CHESNEY --
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>> GO AHEAD. I'M EXCITED TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION MYSELF.
>> YES. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. SCOTT HARRIS. I AM GOING TO INTRODUCE CLK HERE IN A MINUTE. THE PROJECT IS GOING WELL. THEY ARE MISSING ON.
WE HAVE A PROGRESS MEETING THIS AFTERNOON WITH THE CONTRACTOR.
THIS IS A PRESENTATION FROM CLK. THEY PRESENTED THE CONCEPTS FOR THE RESTAURANT TO THE COASTAL PARKS BOARD ON DECEMBER 19TH AND THE PARKS BOARD APPROVED THESE CONCEPTS.
THIS IS FOR THE COURT TO RATIFY THE CONCEPTS THAT THE PARKS BOARD APPROVED. I WILL INTRODUCE JAVIER AND JERRY FROM FOUR TO PROVIDE THE PRESENTATION.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. I HAVE A PROBLEM THAT WE ARE MODIFYING SOMETHING THAT THEY DECIDED TO DO DECEMBER 19TH NOW, BRINGING IT TO COURT IN JANUARY? WHY ARE WE RATIFYING THIS THING? IS THERE SOMETHING WHERE THEY MAKE THE DECISION? I MEAN, I THINK WE ARE GOING AROUND THE WRONG WAY HERE.
VOLUME ] THIS IS THE WAY IT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST. IF SOMETHING COMES OUT, WE SHOULD BE THE ONES VOTING FOR IT, AFTER THEY MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION.
>> THAT IS KIND OF WHAT WE ARE DOING TODAY BECAUSE THE PARKS BOARD IS THE STATUTORY AUTHORITY BY LAW THEY RUN AND MANAGE THE COASTAL ASSETS. THE PROCEDURE IS EVERYTHING GOES TO THE COASTAL PARKS BOARD FIRST AND THEN COMES TO US. THAT IS HOW WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE IT. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE
DOING TODAY. >> THEY COME TO US, YES. WITH THE RECOMMENDATION, BUT NEVER HAVE THEY MADE A DECISION BEFORE COMING TO US. SO, I AM KIND OF WORRIED. WE ARE GOING TO START MAKING ALL KINDS OF DECISIONS FOR US TO RATIFY? I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE ARE THE ONES THAT CARRY THE BRUNT OF THIS THING.
WE ARE THE ONES THAT GET BLAMED FOR EVERYTHING.
>> IF YOU READ THE ITEM COMMITS US TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE NUECES COUNTY RECOMMENDATION FOR THE BOB HALL PIER RESTAURANT BUILDING DESIGN.
>> WE ARE RATIFYING THEIR DECISION.
>> I CAN UNDERSTAND THE RECOMMENDATION. I CAN VOTE ON
THE RECOMMENDATION. >> YOU CAN VOTE NO, OR YOU CAN
VOTE YES. >> LET ME FINISH. I JUST DON'T WANT TO OPEN THE STORE FOR COASTAL PARKS THE START MAKING DECISIONS AND FOR US TO RATIFY. YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO. I KNOW WHAT IT SAYS THERE BUT I CAN READ. THE THING IS, WHY ARE WE RATIFYING THIS? ALL WE ARE DOING IS APPROVING WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. SO THIS IS NOT THE WAY THAT THINGS SHOULD BE DONE. ARE THERE ANY ISSUES HERE? I
DON'T KNOW. >> YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO RATIFY. YOU ARE HEARING THEIR RECOMMENDATION, WHICH THEY HAVE BROUGHT TO THE COURT, AND YOU ARE GOING TO VOTE ON IT. SO YOU COULD POTENTIALLY -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IN YOUR MIND, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, JUST DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PARKS BOARD AND TAKE
OUT THE WORD RATIFY. >> I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
>> IF YOU WANT TO TAKE OUT THE WORD RATIFICATION, GO FOR IT.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS HOW WE DO IT EVERY TIME. THAT
IS MY AGENDA ITEM. >> I'M OKAY WITH THE WORD RATIFY BECAUSE I PUT IT ON THERE. BUT IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE WORD RATIFY, THAT IS FINE, BUT YOU'RE GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON THIS RECOMMENDATION TODAY.
>> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
>> OKAY. >> SO I THINK WE HAVE IT ESTABLISHED AND RECOGNIZED. ALSO, ARCHER, TROY ADLER. GOOD
TO HAVE YOU. >> WE WILL MOVE TO CLK'S
PRESENTATION. >> COMMISSIONERS, JAVIER HUERTA, CLK ARCHITECTS. WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU IS A CONCEPT
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THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.WE HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH PARKS BOARD TO DEFINE A CONCEPT THAT WOULD WORK WELL WITH OUR BAJA PEER. IN THAT EFFORT, WE WENT THROUGH OUR FIRM TO CREATE IDEAS THAT THE BOARD COULD DISSEMINATE AND KIND OF FILL OUT, AND WE WERE ABLE TO BASICALLY TAKE TWO CONCEPTS THAT WE CREATED AND MERGE THEM INTO ONE. COMMISSIONER, WHAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE HAS NOT BEEN PRESENTED TO THE PARK BOARD. THE PARK BOARD GAVE US CRITERIA FROM THE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS, AND WE MERGED THE CONCEPTS INTO THE SPINAL RENDITION THAT IS BEFORE YOU. SO THIS IS THE LATEST AND GREATEST RENDITION ADOPTING OR INCORPORATING ALL OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE PARKS BOARD
AND ALSO FROM L.A.N.. >> AND I WANTED TO ADD, CHAIR ADLER SENT THIS TO EVERY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AT IN ADVANCE OF THEIR MEETING. AND ASKED FOR THEIR INPUT. I THINK -- I AM NOT SURE, BUT THAT WAS SENT OUT TO EVERYBODY TO GATHER THEIR INPUT BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU GOT INPUT FROM OTHERS. SO I WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT. WE WERE ALL ASKED FOR INPUT. SO THAT WAS PART OF THIS PROCESS, TOO.
>> AND ALL THAT COMMUNICATION CAME DIRECTLY FROM THE PARKS BOARD. WE HAD NO COMMISSION WITH ANYBODY ELSE REGARDING THIS. WHAT YOU SEE HERE -- WE WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY -- THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ICONIC PLACE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE WANTED TO REALLY CREATE SOMETHING SPECIAL. AND SO, THE IDEAS THAT WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU HERE -- THE CONCEPT IS BOTH FEASIBLE FROM A CONSTRUCTIBILITY STANDPOINT, AND FROM A COST STANDPOINT, WE BELIEVE IT IS WITHIN OUR BUDGET. WE HAVE YET TO CONFIRM THAT. WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR PROCESS IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THIS PROJECT FURTHER. BUT WE WANTED TO REALLY TAKE A FRESH LOOK AT THIS CONCEPT, OR THIS PROJECT, AND BE ABLE TO BRING SOMETHING TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT WOULD BE IMPACTFUL. SO THE IDEA OF THE FLOOR PLAN -- THE AREA THAT WAS RESERVED, WHICH WAS THE DINING AREA OF THE BAJA PIER, THAT AREA WOULD BE PRESERVED. THE STRUCTURE WOULD BE PRESERVED. THE EXTERIOR WALLS, THE ROOF. WE ARE TRYING TO PRESERVE THE ROOF AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS IN THAT PORTION OF THE BUILDING. WE ARE GOING TO CREATE DINING SPACE IN THAT AREA FOR APPROXIMATELY 140 TO 145 PEOPLE. THERE WAS A DESIRE -- WE WENT BACK AND FORTH AS FAR AS IT BEING AIR-CONDITIONED OR NOT AIR-CONDITIONED, AND ALL THE DIFFERENT COMPLEX HOODIES THAT COME WITH THAT. WE LANDED ON THE DINING SPACE IS GOING TO BE AIR-CONDITIONED, BUT THE WAITERS WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO OUTSIDE AND THERE WILL BE TABLES OUTSIDE WHERE PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO DINE OUTSIDE THE RESTAURANT. HE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE TRANSPARENCY, AND BEING ABLE TO , YOU KNOW, WHEREVER YOU ARE ON THE RESTAURANT, TO BE ABLE TO SEE ACROSS THE BAY. ANOTHER THING WE DID, WE WANTED TO NOT JUST BE ABLE TO SEE TO THE EAST AND TO THE NORTH, BUT ALSO TO SEE TO THE WEST. THE SUNSET TO THE WAS THIS BEAUTIFUL, SO WE WANTED TO MAXIMIZE THE VIEWS FROM THIS LOCATION. IT ALLOWS TRANSPARENCY ON THREE SIDES OF THE BUILDING. THE WESTERN SIDE, WE ARE GOING TO DEAL WITH THE SHADE. WE ARE STILL TRYING TO DEFINE THAT. WHETHER IT IS A SHADING MECHANISM WITHIN THE WINDOW SYSTEM SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE AFTERNOON, WHEN THE SUN IS COMING FROM THE WEST, THEY CAN SHADE IT OFF AND CONTROL THAT SIDE. MATERIALS, WE ARE THINKING THAT ALL THE MATERIALS ARE GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF COMPOSITE TYPE OF MATERIAL THAT IS GOING TO BE WEATHER RESISTANT FOR THIS ENVIRONMENT WITH THE SAND AND
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SALTY AIR. WE ARE GOING TO ELIMINATE ANY SORT OF MATERIAL THAT IS GOING TO HAVE AN ISSUE FOR MAINTENANCE. WE ARE GOING TO TRY THIS DISPLAYED SO THAT IT WILL BE VERY EFFICIENT FOR YOU AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE GOES. ADDITIONALLY, ALL THE HVAC EQUIPMENT IS GOING TO BE LOCATED IN THE SECOND LEVEL MEZZANINE. SO IT WOULD BE INDOOR, AND WOULD BE PROTECTED FROM THE ELEMENTS, SO THAT IT WILL LAST LONGER . IT WON'T BE TOTALLY EXPOSED TO THE EXTERIOR. THE ONLY PENETRATION TO THE ROOF IS GOING TO BE A VENT THAT IS GOING TO BE PENETRATING THE REEF -- ROOF. AND THE KITCHEN HOOD. LET'S PROCEED TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. HERE IS A VIEW FROM THE BEACH, LOOKING TOWARDS THE SOUTHEAST. WE ARE PRESERVING THE FOUNDATION OF THE EXISTING PART OF THE BUILDING. WE ARE CREATING SHADED AREAS ALONG THE NORTH AND EAST SIDE OF THE RESTAURANT AREA FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO BOTH SIT THERE AND ALSO TO BE ABLE TO COME AND THERE WILL BE RAILING WITH STAINLESS STEEL WIRE THAT WOULD CREATE THE RAILING. AGAIN, WE WANTED TO CREATE THAT TRANSPARENCY FROM THE INTERIOR TO SEE ALL THE WAY ACROSS AND NOT HAVE ANY BLOCKAGE FROM THE VIEW. CAN WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING AT IT FROM THE NORTH, TOWARDS THE SOUTHWEST. THIS WOULD BE THE LOOK OF THE RESTAURANT. THAT CANOPY THAT YOU SEE , THERE WAS GREAT COMMUNICATION ABOUT HAVING A LOT OF SHADE IN THIS FACILITY SO PEOPLE CAN ESCAPE THE SUN. WE HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT. WE ALSO NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO BRACE THAT BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL BUILDING WAS NOT DESIGNED TO HAVE THIS CANOPY.WE ARE GOING TO BRACE THAT WITH THIS SYSTEM OF POST AND RAIL ON THE PERIMETER, WHICH GIVES US THE APPEAL OF MAKING IT LOOK MARINE, MAKING IT LOOK LIKE A SAILBOAT, AND ALSO, IT GIVES STRUCTURE FOR THE CANOPY. NEXT SLIDE. SO ONE OF THE BIG THINGS -- WE RECEIVE A LOT OF GREAT POSITIVE FEEDBACK ON IS CREATING SOMETHING ICONIC THAT THIS PEER COULD BE IDENTIFIED WITH. OUR TEAM CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF CREATING THIS MURAL, TO HAVE THIS MURAL WALL. IT IS GOING TO BE THE CENTER ELEMENT.
IT IS PRETTY LARGE. PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE IT FROM FAR AWAY. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO COME TO THIS PLACE, TAKE A PICTURE AND REMEMBER THE SPOT THEY WERE AT. THE DESIGN OF THE MURAL.
THAT IS JUST A JPEG RIGHT NOW. WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WORK WITH YOU TO CREATE SOME SORT OF A COMMISSION FOR ARTISTS TO COME UP WITH A RENDITION OF WHAT THAT MURAL COULD BE.
>> WHAT COULD BE COOL -- I REALLY LIKE THAT IDEA. WHAT WOULD BE NEAT IS TO HAVE SOME SORT OF COMMUNITY CONTEST.
COMMISSION WHOEVER YOU WANT TO COMMISSION AND LET THEM DO THAT. IT WOULD BE NEAT TO HAVE SOME SORT OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT WHERE PEOPLE SUBMITTED SOMETHING FOR THE MURAL THAT REALLY REFLECTED THE COAST AND THE ISLAND AND SO FORTH, SO MAYBE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING, TOO, TO PUT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND, ASSUMING WE MOVE FORWARD TODAY. I LOVE THAT MURAL. I KNOW THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF IT. I DO WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. THAT IS JUST AN EXAMPLE. WE HAVEN'T DECIDED ON WHO OR WHAT OR ANYTHING. BUT I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE THE CONCEPT.
>> THANK YOU. >> YES. SO, THEN, ONCE WE DECIDE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, WE WILL DECIDE THE MATERIALS, WHAT MATERIALS WILL BE USED. BELIEVES CERAMICS OR CLASS, OR I DON'T KNOW. ALL THOSE THINGS. THE CONSTRUCTION WE ARE PROPOSING WILL HANDLE ANYTHING WE THROW AT IT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OH, STAY THERE FOR A SECOND. ANOTHER PART OF OUR TASK WAS THE DESIGN OF THE RESTAURANT. THE RESTROOM AND CONCESSIONS. THAT THEY SHOT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU FOLLOW ME ON THIS. WE ARE DESIGNING THAT PART OF THE PEER. JACOBS -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG -- JACOBS HAS A DESIGN FOR THAT PART OF THE BUILDING. THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN JACOBS DESIGN. OUR CONTRACT INCLUDES DESIGNING
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THIS. WE ARE GOING TO PRICE IT, BUT THIS IS NOT WHAT THEY PRICE. SO THIS IS SEPARATE THAN THE RESTAURANT PART.>> THAT IS ALSO A SEPARATE BUDGET LINE ITEM, TOO. MEANING, THAT IS OVER HERE, AND Y'ALL HAVE TO WORK THAT PART OUT, BUT THAT IS SEPARATE AND ABOVE FROM THE RESTAURANT SPACE THAT HAS
ITS OWN LINE ITEM, AS WELL. >> YES. AND IN DISCUSSIONS, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, WE SAID, OKAY. WE DIDN'T WANT TO MISS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THIS PLACE FEEL COHESIVE.
AND I ALSO DIDN'T WANT TO BE RESTRICTED BY THAT DESIGN THAT WAS THERE. SO, THIS WOULD TIE TOGETHER BOTH BUILDINGS. BOTH MATERIALS AND ARCHITECTURE. WHERE THE EXISTING DESIGN IS NOT NECESSARILY AS APPEALING AS THIS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
>> YOU ARE SAYING FROM THE BROWN AREA? OR THE DESIGN AREA, THE BLUE? JACOBS WAS DOING THAT?
>> ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT IMAGE. YEAH.
>> THAT IS WHERE THE BATHROOMS ARE.
>> AND THE CONCESSION WHERE WE HAVE FISH AND BAIT AND TACKLE.
>> AND THERE IS A BUDGET FOR THAT. UNTIL WE FINISH THE DESIGN, WHICH WE ARE ALREADY GOING TO START WORKING ON THAT ON PRICING EXERCISES TO SEE HOW WE ARE ON THE BUDGET, BUT THAT
IS AN UNKNOWN. >> WELL, DON'T GO TOO FAR ON THE DESIGN INTO ME THERE IS NO BUDGET. BE VERY CAUTIOUS ON THAT ONE, BECAUSE WE HAVE STRETCHED OUR FUNDS ON THIS ONE IMMENSELY. SO JUST BE CAUTIOUS AND DON'T GET TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD ON DESIGN AND TELL US YOU CAN'T DO IT FOR WHAT THE
>> OKAY. >> YOU CAN MAKE IT FOR LESS.
>> YOU'RE DREAMING. >> THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING TO THE EAST ON THE PIER. THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER THERE WAS GOING TO BE A RAMP. THERE WAS A RAMP INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN. IT IS NOT PART OF OUR SCOPE, BUT IT IS INCLUDED IN THE PEER. IT GOES UP TO THAT LEVEL. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS A VIEW ON THAT WALKWAY, AND THE BRACING THAT IS GOING TO BE ON THE SIDE, WHICH WOULD BE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THE NORTH SIDE. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS LOOKING TO THE SOUTH.
YOU SEE THE PEER ON THE LEFT RIGHT THERE. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THAT CONCESSION AREA. SO THE CONCESSION PART IS BASICALLY -- THOSE WINDOWS THAT YOU SEE, THAT IS WHERE THE COUNTY CONCESSION WILL BE AT. THEY WILL HAVE TWO WINDOWS. ONE WINDOW TO DO TRANSACTIONS FOR PURCHASES AND THE OTHER ONE FOR GATE ACCESS INTO THE FACILITY.
NEXT SLIDE. ALSO, I WANT TO MENTION THAT THERE ARE CANOPIES THAT WILL BE PLACED IN THIS AREA. THOSE HAVE TO BE BROKEN DOWN INTO DIFFERENT PIECES BECAUSE THERE ARE DIFFERENT FOUNDATIONS AND THEY ARE WORKING TOGETHER DIFFERENTLY STRUCTURALLY. THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF PLATE WITH THOSE CANOPIES AND HOW THEY ARE ASSEMBLED IN THAT AREA. IT TURNED OUT REALLY ELEGANTLY. THE CONCESSION, ALSO, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION WITH SCOTT, THE PARKS DIRECTOR, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT AREA WOULD BE SHADED IN FRONT OF THE CONCESSION AND
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THEY CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN AREA FOR AWARD CEREMONIES ANDTHAT TYPE OF STUFF. NEXT ONE >> THAT IS COOL.
>> YOU HAD A QUESTION. >> OKAY. JAVIER, I'M TRYING TO GET UP TO SPEED ON ALL OF THIS. SO THIS PART -- YOU CALL IT THE CONCESSION WE ARE LOOKING AT. THE COST OF THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PIER. IT WAS DESIGNED BY SOMEBODY ELSE. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> YEAH. > SEE HERE ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS IN JACOBS DESIGN.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW THAT IS GOING TO AFFECT THE COST?
>> NOT YET. BUT IT IS MY JOB TO KEEP THE PROJECT ON BUDGET AND SCHEDULE. I WILL BE WATCHING IT CLOSELY. WE ARE GOING TO INCLUDE THEM IN ALL OF THE DESIGN PROGRESS MEETINGS WITH THE CONTRACTOR. THEY WILL MEETING WITH THE CONTRACTOR. IT IS THEIR UNIT COST THAT WILL BE DRIVING THIS, BUT WE WILL DELIVER THE PROJECT WITHIN BUDGET WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL
COSTS FROM THE COUNTY. >> WHERE IS THE TACKLE STAND
GOING TO BE? >> IT IS RIGHT THERE, WHERE YOU SEE THE WINDOW. RIGHT IN THERE. THAT IS WHERE THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES WOULD SELL BAIT AND DRINKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
>> IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE MADE SIGNAL CAN'T MONEY SELLING BAIT AND TACKLE OUT OF THAT PIER.
>> IT WAS A LOT. >> THAT WAS PRETTY COOL.
>> YEAH. I HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, BUT I WILL HOLD. THAT IS ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU.
>> NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. >> THIS IS THE VIEW FROM THE PIER, LOOKING TO THE WEST. YOU'LL SEE THE ELEMENT OF THE MURAL WALL. THAT PART OF THE BUILDING IS GOING TO HAVE A DUAL PURPOSE. IT IS GOING TO BE THAT ICONIC MURAL PLACED ON IT ON THE EXTERIOR, BUT IT ALSO SERVES FOR CREATING A MEZZANINE LEVEL, A SECOND LEVEL WHERE WE WILL HIDE THE EQUIPMENT AND PROTECTED FROM THE ELEMENTS. NEXT SLIDE.
THIS IS THE VIEW LOOKING AT THE MURAL. AND THERE AGAIN, IT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF SHADE. WE WENT BACK AND FORTH AS FAR AS THE SHADE IN FRONT OF THE MURAL. WE DIDN'T WANT TO BLOCK PEOPLE FROM BEING ABLE TO STAND THERE. THERE WAS SOME STRUCTURAL REQUIREMENTS THERE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE CANOPY, IT BEING CAUGHT BY THE WIND AND LIFTED. THIS IS THE CONCEPT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. WE ARE SO GOING TO WORK IT OUT WITH THE ENGINEER AND FIGURE OUT THE PLACEMENT OF THOSE COLUMNS TO MINIMIZE AS MUCH AS WE CAN, THAT OBSTRUCTION FROM THE VIEW OF THE MURAL. BUT IT IS PLENTY WIDE AND PLENTY OPEN THAT PEOPLE COULD STAND IN FRONT OF THE MERRILL TO TAKE PHOTOS.
NEXT SLIDE. >> WHILE YOU ARE ON THIS, COULD THE SHADE STRUCTURE GO UP HIGHER WHERE THE WHOLE MURAL IS EXPOSED OR IS THAT NOT PRACTICAL?
>> IT WON'T DO ANY GOOD. RIGHT NOW, WE ARE PUSHING THAT LIMIT WHERE WE STILL GET SOME BENEFIT OUT OF THE SHADE. I MEAN, YOU SEE ALL KINDS OF SHADE DEVICES IN BUILDINGS AND THEY'RE NOT SHADING ANYBODY. THEY ARE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES. IF WE HAVE SHADE, WE WANT IT TO FUNCTION AS SHADE. WE DID AN ANALYSIS ON IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WILL PROVIDE SHADE UNDERNEATH THAT AREA. THIS IS EARLY MORNING -- EARLY MORNING SUNLIGHT. THIS IS REALLY COMING FROM THE EAST. THE SUN IS COMING ACROSS. YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF SHADE UNDERNEATH THE CANOPY UNDERNEATH THIS PHOTO BECAUSE IT IS COMING FROM DUE EAST, THE SON RIGHT NOW. NEXT SLIDE.
>> WE TALKED TO THE BOARD AND THE CONCEPT OF THE INTERIOR. WE WANTED TO BE A SIMPLE. WE WANT THIS SPACE TO BE SIMPLE AND FLEXIBLE SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY IN YOUR REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. I'M NOT SURE WHAT PROCESS YOU WILL TAKE FOR
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LEASING THIS PLACE. THE DISCUSSION THERE WAS ENTERTAINMENT, VIEW, THE APPEAL OF THE SPACE. THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT, MAKING IT VERY RESTAURANT DOES GET IT THAT FEEL. SOMEBODY WILL PAY WELL FOR THE SPACE AND ALSO BE ABLE TO ATTRACT PEOPLE COME. AND SO THE DISCUSSION WAS -- THIS IS WHAT WE NEEDED IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO CREATE APPEAL.OPEN SPACE? YOU'RE GIVING US A CONCEPT OF WHAT IT COULD LOOK
LIKE FOR REDESIGN? >> THE DESIGN WILL INCLUDE THE COUNTERS. IT WILL INCLUDE THE AIR CONDITIONING. THE
FURNISHER. THE TVS. >> THE RESTAURANT WILL BRING
THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT. >> I MEAN THE FLOOR PLAN. YOU EXPECT TO HAVE A CENTERED AREA. A BAR AREA.
>> SO YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LEAVE THAT OPEN?
>> I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT UP TO THE RESTAURANT HER, THE PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL THAT WILL COME UP WITH A DESIGN THAT WORKS BETTER FOR THEM. I PICTURE IN THE END, IT'S GOING TO BE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE HAVING A GOOD TIME AND LETTING THEIR PART TAB GO UP. I WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND OUT OF THERE. I DON'T WANT THE EVERYDAY PERSON TO MAKE THAT THEIR HOME. THAT IS MY PERSONAL THOUGHT ON THAT.
>> WE CAN LOOK AT THE FLOOR PLAN, COMMISSIONERS. THAT AREA IS TUCKED TO ONE CORNER OF THE FLOOR PLAN. WE HAVE A LOT OF
SEATING. >> THAT IS THE QUESTION. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THIS VIEW IS. THIS ISN'T IN THE CENTER,
>> ORIGINALLY, IT WAS IN THE CENTER. THE INPUT WAS, TO HAVE MORE OPEN FEEL. THAT AREA IS MORE TUCKED ON THE WALL, I THINK AND IT IS MUCH MORE OPEN. THAT VIEW IS A LITTLE
MISLEADING. >> AND THIS IS MY GUT REACTION.
>> THAT IS WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE'S GUTS WERE.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE MOST -- MY NEXT QUESTION WAS -- I WAS GOING TO SAY, HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN YOU GET ON THE PIER? I THINK WE ARE GOING TO BE HITTING CAPACITY EVERY DAY FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. THIS WILL BE A HUGE DRAW. IT IS GOING TO BE NONSTOP. EVERY INCH OF THAT PEER IS GOING TO BE HIGHLY UTILIZED, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS USED. BUT I SEE IT NOW. I SAW IT EARLIER.
>> WE HAD THE SAME REACTION. THE ORIGINAL DESIGN WAS IN THE MIDDLE. I THINK EVERYBODY FELT LIKE THAT WASN'T THE WAY TO DO IT. WE WANTED, LIKE YOU SAID, MORE OPEN, SO THEY KNEW THAT AREA BECAUSE -- THEY MOVED IT BACK DOWN TO WHERE IT IS MUCH MORE OPEN, BUT THAT VIEW YOU LIKE THAT, IT IS MISLEADING. IT IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE MUCH MORE OPEN SEATING.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE PEOPLE THERE, RATHER THAN JUST
PEOPLE -- >> IT IS NOT A BIG SPACE. AND SO, TALKING TO RESTAURANT FOLKS, WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THAT NUMBER THAT MAKES THE SPACE VIABLE FOR A RESTAURANT, BECAUSE IF IT IS NOT LARGE ENOUGH,
>> I DON'T WANT ARE DESIGNED TO HANDCUFF SOMEBODY'S VISION.
THE BUSINESS PERSON, THE ENTREPRENEUR IS GOING TO HAVE WHAT THEIR STYLE IS. YOU KNOW, WE LOCK THEM IN AND TELL THEM THE DESIGN. I THINK THAT IS DETRIMENTAL. I WOULD RATHER BE MORE OPEN AND LET SOMEONE COME UP WITH THEIR CONCEPT ON WHAT THEY PLAN ON DOING. RATHER THAN US DIRECTING IT.
>> COMMISSIONER, WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT. THE ONLY CAVEAT -- IF WE FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT YOU CAN SELECT SOMEBODY BEFORE WE DO THE INTERIOR, THEN THAT COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE
DESIGN. >> THAT WILL HIT WHAT YOU WANT.
I THINK THAT IS REASONABLE. >> THIS IS NOT A DEAL KILLER FOR ME. MY REACTION IS, BY LOOKING AT THIS FOOTPRINT ALONE AND THIS PICTURE, IT MAY NOT BE TO SCALE, BUT GOSH, YOU CAN GET
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CLOSE TO NINE EXTRA TABLES IN THAT SPOT. I RATHER SEEK NINE TABLES THAN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU CAN'T GET MORE IN THE BAR SETTING, BUT I THINK YOU CAN DO THAT.>> I THINK YOU CAN DO WHAT JAVIER IS SUGGESTING. YOU CAN SEND OUT THE RFP OR RFQ SOONER. WHOEVER ENDS UP GETTING IT. WE ARE NOT DESIGNING THIS FOR ANYBODY THAT WE HAVE IN MIND.
THERE IS NO DEAL. NOBODY HAS THIS. THAT IS WHAT WE WILL HEAR NEXT. WE ALREADY HAVE A DEAL. OKAY. SO, WHOEVER THE PARKS BOARD CHOOSES AND RECOMMENDS, THE COURT RATIFIES. WHATEVER TERM WE WANT TO USE TO PICK THAT GROUP, I'M JUST SAYING, THAT COULD BE THE TIME TO GET INPUT, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO DESIGN IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY, BUT AT THIS POINT, MY THIS IS LITTLE -- A LITTLE AMBIGUOUS IS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO THIS IS GOING TO BE OR WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO WANT. WE MAKE IT FOR THE COUNTY, FOR THE WHOLE -- BUT WE COULD SPEED UP THE RFQ, TROY COME AND DO IT SOONER. YOU WOULD JUST NEED TO GET WITH JAVIER BECAUSE I THINK THE INTERIOR DEFINITELY HAS SOME FLEX. WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO TODAY IS THE OUTER PART OF IT SO WE CAN MOVE, RIGHT, SO WE CAN GET -- KEEP THEM GOING. WE WILL GET IT BACK AT 30%, I THINK, BECAUSE WE WILL NEED TO SEE SOME TECHNICAL DRAWINGS, BUT THEY CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH ANYTHING UNTIL WE KIND OF -- I DON'T MEAN TO APPROVE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PARKS BOARD TODAY -- BUT THAT IS A GREAT SUGGESTION, AND I THINK THE PARKS BOARD NEEDS TO MAYBE CONSIDER SPEEDING UP THE RFP ON THAT SO WE CAN ACCOMMODATE WHAT COMMISSIONER MAREZ IS
SUGGESTING. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JAVIER, I AGREE. THEY HAVE THE BAR THINGS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FLOOR. IT CREATES THE ILLUSION THAT THAT IS WHAT THIS PLACE IS, THAT THIS IS A PART. I'M NOT SURE THAT'S THE MESSAGE WE WANT TO SEND. PLUS, IT TAKES UP A LOT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE. I GET THE FACT THAT WE ARE ALWAYS DOWN THE ROAD. BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT VERY CLOSELY AS WE GO FORWARD. THE OTHER COMMENT I WOULD MAKE OR QUESTION I WOULD ASK, REMEMBER IN THE OLD SETUP, THERE WAS A SMALL, PRIVATE DINING AREA THAT WE COULD RESERVE. DID WE NOT -- DECIDE NOT TO DO THAT?
>> I THINK WE ARE DECIDING RIGHT NOW. THIS IS WHAT THEY
HAVE COME UP WITH. >> IT WOULD CUT THE SQUARE
FOOTAGE FROM THE DINING AREA. >> WHAT THEY'VE GOTTEN BACK FROM THE RESTAURANTS, COMMISSIONER, IS THE RESTAURANT PEOPLE THEY CONSULTED IS THEY NEED MORE SPACE FOR EVERYDAY PEOPLE TO COME IN AND EAT AND SIT AND BE MORE PROFITABLE. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT SOMEONE COULDN'T COME IN AND RESERVE THAT WHOLE SPACE THROUGH THE RESTAURANT TO USE FOR AN EVENT OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. WE ALSO REMEMBER PART OF THIS CHANGED BECAUSE WE ARE ALSO DOING BRISCOE KING PAVILION, AS YOU ARE WELL AWARE OF, PEOPLE ON THAT FIRST BOARD. THAT WILL HAVE A LOT OF EVENT SPACE. I THINK WE ARE GOING TO SHIFT THE EVENT OVER THERE AND THIS WOULD BE MORE OF THE RESTAURANT AREA.
TROY, IF THAT'S NOT RIGHT -- >> I DON'T RECALL.
- LOW VOLUME ] >> I DON'T EITHER.
>> I KNOW IT WAS BECAUSE BRENT HAD A FUNDRAISER OVER THERE.
>> THERE WAS. THERE WAS THE KITCHEN. RIGHT. IT WASN'T VERY
BIG. >> THEY REDID IT AND MADE IT
ANOTHER DINING ROOM. >> THAT WAS A DISJOINTED BUILDING BECAUSE IT WAS ON BUILDING AND WE PUT ANOTHER BUILDING AGAINST IT. IT WASN'T DESIGNED THE WAY THAT THE WRITING WAS. IT WAS THE BIGGER AREA. THAT IS CORRECT. WE DID
HAVE EVENTS OVER THERE. >> I'M NOT SAYING WE NEED TO HAVE ONE I'M JUST ASKING IF IT WAS DECIDED THAT WE WANTED TO DO THAT. I'M OKAY EITHER WAY. THANK YOU.
>> CAN YOU GO TO THE -- BACK TO WHERE WE WERE? I GUESS WE STARTED ON THE INTERIOR VIEWS. THIS IS THE VIEW LOOKING AT IT FROM THE NORTHWEST CORNER, LOOKING BACK TO THE RESTAURANT.
IN THIS PHOTO, THE PERCEPTION, COMMISSIONER MAREZ, THE
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PERCEPTION THAT THE ISLAND IS IN THE CENTER, HERE, YOU CAN SEE MORE OF THAT SEATING AREA, AND THAT SPACE IS TO ONE SIDE.CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? THIS IS LOOKING BACK FROM THE NORTHEAST CORNER. YOU SEE THAT BAR AREA TOWARDS THE BACK, AND ALL THE SEATING AROUND THE EAST AND NORTH OF THE RESTAURANT.
VOLUME ] >> SO OUR BEST VIEW IS EAST AND NORTH. THOSE ARE GOING TO BE -- THE NORTH, OF COURSE, WILL NOT HAVE ANY GLARE. THE EAST WILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF GLARE, BUT AFTER THAT, IT IS GOING TO BE MAGNIFICENT VIEWS.
>> NEXT SLIDE. >> WE ARE AT THE END.
>> OKAY. THAT'S ALL WE GOT. >> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS FROM THE COURT? >> JUST A COMMENT, COMMISSIONER. I WANT TO THANK THE PARKS BOARD AND CLK.
EVERYONE WHO WORKED ON THIS. THIS IS BEEN A LABOR OF LOVE FOR EVERYBODY OUT THERE. IT HAS BEEN A LABOR OF LOVE FOR THOSE OF US THAT WORKED ON IT. I THINK THERE IS ROOM FOR TWEAKING. WE DO THIS PHASE WE COME BACK AT THE 30% DESIGN AND THEN BACK AT 60. EVERYONE WILL GET A SHOT AT LOOKING ALL OF IT TWEAKING IT AND SEEING HOW IT'S GOING TO COME OUT. I THINK IT IS JUST GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, ICONIC IS THE WORD THAT GETS USED ALL THE TIME BECAUSE THIS IS AN ICONIC PIER.
EDDIE WAS A GREAT DECISION BY THE PARKS BOARD TO INVOLVE CLK, AND I RAN INTO JERRY AT A WEDDING. NOT JUST ANY WEDDING.
EMILY'S WEDDING THIS WEEKEND. HE WILL HAVE TO TELL THE STORY BECAUSE HE WAS TELLING ME THAT THERE WAS A CONTEST IN YOUR OFFICE WHERE THE MEN IN YOUR OFFICE AND THE WOMEN IN YOUR OFFICE BOTH SUBMITTED DESIGNS FOR THIS, AND THEN HOWEVER, -- WHOEVER -- ONE GROUP WON THE INSIDE. ONE GROUP WON THE OUTSET. I THOUGHT THAT WAS COOL THAT YOU MADE A COMPOSITION WITHIN THE OFFICE. EVERYONE IN YOUR OFFICE IS LOCAL. THERE HAS BEEN SO MUCH LOCAL PARTICIPATION IN THIS. I THINK THAT IS SO IMPORTANT. THIS COURT HAS BEEN SO STRONG ON INVOLVING LOCAL FOLKS. JERRY'S ENGINEERING IS LOCAL. CLK IS LOCAL. THERE'S GOING TO BE SO MUCH THAT GOES INTO THIS. JOHN MICHAELS IS INVOLVED. I MEAN, THERE ARE SO MANY LOCAL PEOPLE AND BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH LOCAL TALENT IN THIS COMMUNITY.
THIS IS A BIG PROJECT. THIS IS A PROJECT OF GREAT MAGNITUDE.
THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SOME NEW PEOPLE DOING THIS THAT ARE HERE LOCALLY SAYS A LOT ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND NEEDS TO BE EMPHASIZED. IT'S GOING TO BE MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY ARE PROUD OF IT. THEY WANT TO POINT TO THEIR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS AND SAY, HEY, I HAD A ROLE IN THAT. I THINK THAT IS COOL. I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE OVERLOOKED BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE A NEAT PROJECT. I WOULD STILL LIKE TO LOOK AT SOME SIGNAGE DOWN THE ROAD. SOME COOL, BIG SIGNAGE, TOO, BUT YOUR MURAL MAY TAKE THE PLACE OF WHAT I ENVISIONED ON THAT BECAUSE WE WANTED A COOL PIER. YOUR MURAL MAY TAKE THE PLACE OF THAT.
I'M SO APPRECIATIVE OF TAKING THE INPUT. I KNOW I SPENT A LOT OF TIME GOING OVER THIS AND PROVIDING MY INPUT. I KNOW THE PARKS BOARD MEMBERS DID. OTHERS DID. LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, SO, THANK YOU, FIRST OF ALL. EVERYONE IS GETTING PAID TO DO IT, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT IS ALWAYS DONE RIGHT JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GETTING PAID TO DO IT. I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT ON THIS BECAUSE I REALLY THINK THIS COMMUNITY IS GOING TO ENJOY -- IT IS GOING TO BE SOME OF THE BEST VIEWS ON THE TEXAS COAST. IT IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE NEATEST, MOST ICONIC, COOLEST LOOKING PLACES ON THE TEXAS CODE. -- COAST. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD AND APPROVE AND ACCEPTED THE NUECES COUNTY PARKS BOARD BOB HALL PIER RESTAURANT BUILDING DESIGN . THANK YOU.
>> SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
>> AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE IT.
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THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK. CHAIRMAN ADLER, THANK YOU. ALL[2. Discuss and consider approval of request to Amend Dune Protection Permit DPP 202304-04 for compensation for violation at 7213 SH 361, Port Aransas, Nueces County, Texas. The applicant is John Pietrobon of Island Beach Resort, LLC.]
RIGHT. ONTO ITEM 3A2. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF REQUEST TO AMEND DUNE PROTECTION PERMIT DPP 202304-04 FOR COMPENSATION FOR VIOLATION AT 7213 SH 361, PORT ARANSAS, NUECES COUNTY, TEXAS. THE APPLICANT IS JOHN PIETROBON OF ISLAND BEACH RESORT, LLC. SCOTT OR CHRISTINE.>> THANK YOU. >> THIS IS FOR VIOLATION COMPENSATION THAT YOU APPROVED PREVIOUSLY. JOHN PIETROBON HAD THE MATERIAL. THEN WE HAD TROPICAL STORM ALBERTO WHICH WASHED IT OUT. THIS AMENDMENT IS TO GO BACK AND PUT IT ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE DUNES AFTER MORE CONVERSATIONS WITH GLO .
ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS DIFFERENT THAN TYPICAL. GO AHEAD AND PLACE THAT MATERIAL WITHIN THREE MONTHS OF RECEIVING ALL OF THEIR PERMIT APPROVALS, INCLUDING FROM THE COUNTY AND THE CITY. SO EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT THIS REQUEST IS PRETTY NORMAL. WE ARE TRYING TO GET A SUCCESSFUL VIOLATION COMPENSATION AREA THAT WILL NOT GET WASHED AWAY.
>> EVERYONE IS IN AGREEMENT ON THIS, CORRECT? BMAC, THE APPLICANT. THIS IS NOT CONTROVERSIAL.
>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST OF THE DUNE
>> THANK YOU. >> ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS?
YES. >> I'M CHRISTINE MAJORS. I HELP SCOTT OUT. NOT DIRECTLY. AS A CONSULTANT.
>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION AT A SECOND. ALL
[4. Discuss and consider approval of time extension (only) of the period of performance date from July 30, 2024 to April 30, 2025, for the TDEM-HMGP FEMA Project No. DR-4332-0295 - Nueces County Courthouse Generator Project, and related matters.]
THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE. >> AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU.
ITEM 4, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF TIME EXTENSION ONLY OF THE PERIOD OF PERFORMANCE DATE FROM JULY 30, 2024 TO APRIL 30, 2025, FOR THE TDEM-HMGP FEMA PROJECT NO.
DR-4332-0295 - NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE GENERATOR PROJECT, AND RELATED MATTERS. WE HAVE OUR COUNTY ENGINEER JUAN HERE
TO GIVE AN UPDATE. >> WE ARE REQUESTING AN EXTENSION ON THE TIME FOR THE GRANT. APPLICATION. -- OR ON THE GRANT. WE ARE REQUESTING EXTENSION TO APRIL 2024.
>> TIME EXCEPTIONALLY? >> TIME EXTENSION.
>> SO MOVED. >> MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> I'M SORRY. I WAS GOING TO CALL YOU YESTERDAY, BUT I RAN OUT OF TIME. THIS GENERATOR IS
ALREADY IN PLACE AND INSTALL. >> THAT IS CORRECT,
COMMISSIONER. >> IS IT A DECENT GENERATOR?
>> THERE ARE FOUR GENERATORS. THEY ARE GAS.
>> YOU SAY GAS. LIKE GASOLINE?
>> NATURAL GAS. COMING FROM THE CITY.
>> THEY ARE ALL GAS. >> I SAID, WELL. IT IS GAS.
THAT IS MY QUESTION. I'VE HAD SEVERAL REQUESTS FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND MAYBE YOU CAN PUT THIS TOGETHER ABOUT IF WE HAD A POWER FAILURE ON THIS CAMPUS WHEN THESE GENERATORS COME ONLINE, WHAT IS GOING TO BE POWERED UP? ARE THERE ANY AREAS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE POWERED UP?
>> THE FOUR GENERATORS ARE HERE FOR THE COURTHOUSE. IT WILL POWER THE COURTHOUSE AND THE JAIL.
>> YES SIR. >> I DON'T KNOW WHY I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO BRING THE VENDOR FOR AN UPDATE ON THIS.
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WE HAVE EXTENDED THIS THING REPEATEDLY.>> YES SIR, COMMISSIONER. THERE IS JOHN WARREN AND ALSO, NRG, THEY'RE ON ZOOM. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I DID INVITE
THEM TO THE MEETING. >> THIS IS THE FIFTH OR SIXTH OR FOURTH -- HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE EXTENDED THIS THING?
>> THIS IS THE THIRD TIME, COMMISSIONER.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF WE ARE REALLY GOING TO BE FINISHED
BECAUSE WE KEEP DOING THIS. >> YES SIR.
>> THIS IS DON WITH CAPITAL ELECTRIC.
>> YES OR. THE DELAY ON THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN THE RECRUITERS AND TRYING TO GET THEM IN OUR HANDS WHEN WE FIRST BID THE PROJECT. WE WERE TOLD IT WOULD BE 22 WEEKS TO HAVE THOSE IN HAND. THEY CONTINUE TO GET PUSHED OUT AND PUSHED OUT AND PUSHED OUT BECAUSE OF MANUFACTURER DELAYS. YOUR SENDING LETTERS. THE RECRUITERS DIDN'T GET HERE UNTIL I THINK IT WAS THIS PAST YEAR IN 2024. THAT WAS TWO AT THE COURTHOUSE.
THE OTHER TWO SHOWED UP AT THE COURTHOUSE. WE FINALLY DID GET THOSE INSTALLED. RIGHT NOW, WHERE THE PROJECT SITS IS IT IS GETTING THE FINALIZED PROGRAMMING, THAT WAY RE-CLOSURES AND EVERYTHING WORKS AS IT GOES DOWN. THERE HAS BEEN A SMALL DELAY ON THAT. ONCE THAT GETS IN FOR REVIEW, AND IT IS APPROVED, WE CAN GET BACK ON SITE. IT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE TWO WEEKS OF WORK. WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT BY APRIL WE SHOULD BE WRAPPED UP WITH THIS.
>> IS THIS THE ONE WE HAD TO PAY BACK, OR AM I GETTING MY PROJECTS CONFUSED? IS THIS NOT HAPPENING ON THIS ONE, TOO? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS ON THIS? IS THAT A DIFFERENT COMPANY THAT WE HAD TO DO ON THE MCKENZIE ANNEX WHERE WE HAD
TO PAY BACK MONEY? >> THE REASON FOR THE PAYBACK, IT WAS FOR THE ANNEX. THE ANNEX GENERATORS WERE UNDER THE DISASTER OF THE 2015 FLOODS. THESE COURTHOUSE AND JAIL GENERATORS WERE UNDER THE HARVEY HURRICANE DISASTER.
>> SO IS THIS COSTING US MONEY POTENTIALLY ? IS THIS A REIMBURSEMENT DEAL, TO SO THAT WE MAY NOT GET?
>> IT IS BASICALLY -- THE BUDGET IS AT 3.7. SINCE WE DID REQUEST A SCOPE MODIFICATION, AND THAT INCREASED THE LOCAL SHARE. IT IS NOT 7525. IT IS MORE LIKE 33.66. 66 BEING THE COUNTY'S PART. AS LONG AS WE DO EVERYTHING AND PROVIDE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION, AND THEY ARE ASKING FOR DOCUMENT TATIAN RIGHT NOW, AND I JUST RECEIVED IT, SO I WILL BE SUBMITTING
THAT. >> SAID IF WE INCREASE THE SCOPE THAT IS ON US. I GET IT. THAT IS FINE. I'M SAYING, WITH THE MCKENZIE, IF -- WE DIDN'T GET REIMBURSED FOR SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD OF GOTTEN REIMBURSED FOR. I'M TRYING TO CORRELATE IT TO -- IS THIS GOING TO POTENTIALLY HAPPEN ON THIS WHERE BECAUSE OF THESE TIME EXTENSIONS, WE ARE GOING TO POTENTIALLY LOSE OUT ON REIMBURSEMENTS THAT WE COULD'VE GOTTEN, WHICH MEANS WE END UP PAYING MORE. IS THAT GOING TO
HAPPEN? >> YEAH. WE JUST GOT REIMBURSED OUR PERCENTAGE FOR ALL THE GENERATORS AND THAT WAS 1.1 MILLION. WE RECEIVED 318,000. THE SECOND REQUEST IS WHAT IS BEING REVIEWED. IT IS ANOTHER 1.7 MILLION, WHICH IS THE CONTRACT, THE VENDORS, THE REST OF IT, NRG. THOSE HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AND THEY ARE UNDER REVIEW.
>> SO YOUR ANSWER IS NO, WHICH IS A FAIR ANSWER, BUT YOUR ANSWER IS YOU DON'T KNOW, BUT IT COULD HAPPEN. AND IT COULD
>> YES. >> WE DON'T KNOW. SO IF THESE TIME EXTENSIONS AND COSTING US REIMBURSEMENT MONEY, THEN WHAT?
>> I WANT TO EXPLAIN -- ON THE ANNEX, THE DISASTERS ONLY GO TO A CERTAIN PERIOD. THE ANNEX ARE STILL BEING MAINTAINED WITH THIS RECLOSER ISSUE, BUT WE CANNOT REQUEST ANY REIMBURSEMENTS THROUGH FEMA BECAUSE THAT DISASTER HAS CLOSED, SO, ANY EXPENSES AFTER THAT DECEMBER 31ST 2024 OR 2023, WE COULDN'T REQUEST, SO WE HAVE CONTINUED ASKING FOR THE REIMBURSEMENTS ON THE COURTHOUSE GENERATORS, WHICH ARE IN LINE. THE REASON WE HAD TO GIVE THAT MONEY TO FEMA WAS
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BECAUSE THE FIRST REQUEST FOR THE ANNEX WERE PAID AT THAT 75, 25 PERCENTAGE. WE MET ALL REQUIREMENTS, BUT SINCE THE MODIFICATION, THE PERCENTAGE WAS INCREASING THE LOCAL SHARE, SO WE HAD TO PAY BACK SOMETHING THAT WE HAD ALREADY BEENREIMBURSED. >> MY QUESTION IS, ARE THESE TIME EXTENSIONS THAT WE CONTINUE TO DO PART OF THE REASON WE ARE NOT -- THAT WE COULD NOT POTENTIALLY GET REIMBURSED ON THIS PROJECT THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT TODAY?
>> IN OTHER WORDS, THE LONGER WE GO, THE LESS CHANCE WE HAVE
OF BEING REIMBURSED. >> HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE RESUBMITTED WILL ALLOW US -- SO FAR, THE ONLY THING THAT HAS NOT BEEN SUBMITTED IS THE PAST MONTH OF INVOICES. I AM PROVIDING ALL THE CURRENT INFORMATION THEY ARE ASKING
FOR. >> I WANT TO KNOW BY THE NEXT MEETING AND WE PROBABLY HAVE TO HAVE A EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THIS. I NEED TO FIGURE OUT ON THIS ONE AND THE OTHER ONE. I NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THESE TIME EXTENSIONS ARE COSTING THE TAXPAYERS OF NUECES COUNTY AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO ABOUT IT. IF SOMEONE COULD PUT THIS ONE AND THE OTHER ONE ON THE EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE NEXT MEETING, BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH WHAT WE SUBMITTED. HOPEFULLY WE HAVE AN ANSWER TO WHAT YOU SAID YOU ARE WAITING ON.
>> I SUBMITTED THIS -- THE SECOND REQUEST I THINK IN MAY OF LAST YEAR. THEY ARE JUST ASKING FOR INFORMATION, SO, I DON'T SEE THAT I WILL GET ANY INFORMATION.
>> THEN I GUESS, LET'S PUT IT ON THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY, PLEASE, TERESA, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND PUTTING THAT ON FOR THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY WITH THE EXECUTIVE SESSION SO WE CAN KIND OF GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS.
>> ANY NEEDED INFORMATION ON THE ANNEX THAT WAS CLOSED OR
JUST THIS? >> I THINK WE BETTER TALK ABOUT BOTH OF THEM BECAUSE IF WE LOST MONEY ON THAT OTHER ONE, IT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA . I'M JUST CORRELATING THE TWO BECAUSE IT IS GERMANE BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE BECAUSE THAT IS NOT POSTED.
>> COMMISSIONER, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE OTHER ONE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT COURT, THE FIRST COURT IN FEBRUARY.
>> IF YOU'RE GOING TO ANYWAY, PUT THEM BOTH ON.
>> I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THIS ONE I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR THE NEXT ONE BECAUSE WE DID, LIKE YOU SAID, WE HAD TO PAY SOME MONEY BACK, SO I'M GETTING COMMISSIONERS COURT APPROVAL
FOR THAT. >> OKAY. LET'S PUT THEM BOTH ON AND WE WILL SEE WHERE WE ARE AND LET'S HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND SEE WHERE THAT LEADS. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE GOING TO PUT THAT MONEY. I GUESS YOU'RE GOING TO ASK US
FOR GENERAL FUND RESERVES. >> IT IS A KIND WAY OF SAYING
WE ARE NOT GOING TO PAY. >> IT IS A KIND WAY OF SAYING THEY'RE NOT GOING TO REIMBURSE YOU.
>> NO. THAT IS THE WAY ALL OF THEM ARE.
>> LIKE I SAID, THE ANNEX FOR THE 2015 FLOOD DISASTERS. THEY CLOSE IT OUT AND HE DOESN'T 23.
>> SO WE DID HAVE A MOTION AT A SECOND TO APPROVE THE TIME EXTENSION ONLY. BUT YOU ARE WANTING TO RESCIND THAT MOTION?
>> CAN I MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT?
>> WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS TO EXTEND THE PERIOD OF PERFORMANCE. BASICALLY, AS I SAID, THE DEADLINE THAT IS CURRENT IS JULY OF 2024. IF WE DON'T EXTEND IT, THEN ANY INVOICES PAID AS OF JULY WILL NOT BE APPROVED. AND I'VE ALREADY REQUESTED REIMBURSEMENT. SO, IT'S NOT
GOING TO BE DOSE >> YOU ARE SAYING WE HAVE TO DO THIS BECAUSE IT BENEFITS US? THAT IS AN ACCEPTABLE ANSWER.
>> THAT IS THE MOTION. THAT IS THE SECOND. ANY OTHER
>> I'M GOING TO CALL FOR A VOTE ON THAT ITEM. ALL THOSE IN
>> ANY OPPOSED? STAFF HAS DIRECTION THAT HAS BEEN EXPRESSED TO BRING THIS UP IN THE FUTURE. WE CAN TAKE A SECOND PUT ON THAT, OR DO WE ALL UNDERSTAND TO BRING IT
BACK? YES? >> IF SOMEONE COULD GROUP THEM AND BRING THEM AT THE SAME TIME WHENEVER THAT IS.
LOW VOLUME ] >> OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[5. Discuss and consider allocating $15,000 Capital Credits Administration funds for Economic Development for Fiscal Year 2024-2025: 1. Downtown Management District - $7,500 2. London Business Association - $7,500]
THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATES. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE ONLINE THAT PARTICIPATED AS WELL. ON TO ITEM NUMBER 5 UNDER THE REGULAR AGENDA. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ALLOCATING $15,000 CAPITAL CREDITS ADMINISTRATION FUNDS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025. WE HAD YOU HERE FOR THE LAST MEETING[01:20:02]
TO DO MOST OF THE CAPITAL CREDITS.>> IT WAS INADVERTENTLY LEFT OFF THE LIST. IT WAS THERE BUT THEY DID NOT INCLUDE IT FOR FUNDING. NOT THE DOWNTOWN
MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. >> I THOUGHT I DID, BUT TERESA
SAID I DIDN'T. >> IT WAS THE CC BLACK CHAMBER.
TEXAS AND M, WEST SIDE BUSINESS.
LITTLE FUN IN LIFE. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THIS, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT A DOUBLE ON THE DOWNTOWN MANAGEMENT DISTRICT TO ALLOCATE THE MONEY TO BOTH ORGANIZATIONS, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT A DOUBLE FOR DOWNTOWN MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.
TODAY. >> MOTION AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.
>> RATIFIED . JUST GETTING. >> ARE WE ALSO INCLUDING THE
[6. Discuss and consider allocating $60,703 from Commissioner Pct. 3, 2021 CO Funds for the construction of the Windscreens at the Richard M. Borchard Equestrian Arena, and all related matters.]
LONDON BUSINESS ASSOCIATION? >> BOTH ITEMS. OKAY. THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER SIX, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ALLOCATING $60,703 FROM COMMISSIONER PRECINCT 3, 2021 CO FUNDS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE WINDSCREENS AT THE RICHARD QUESTION -- EQUESTRIAN AREA. AND ALL RELATED MATTERS.
>> SHE HAD STOCK SHOW STUFF. BREAKDOWN OF ALL THE WORK THAT WE DID, YEAH. IF ANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN OUT THERE, THIS IS MY ITEM, IF YOU HAVE BEEN OUT THERE FOR ANY EVENT, IT'S A GREAT PART OF THE WHOLE COMPLEX WE HAVE. DONE YEARS AGO REALLY HAS MADE GREAT USE OF IT. SOME PARTS OF THE YEAR IT'S USED MORE HIGHLY THAN OTHERS. EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE THE EXTENSION OF THE PRELIM RADIO, WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF EQUESTRIAN LIVESTOCK RELATED EVENTS THAT ARE OUT THERE , AND SOME BIG FORMAL EVENTS, FUNDRAISERS USED ON A REGULAR BASIS TO HELP DRAW IN FUNDING TO THE AREA, TO THE COUNTY. OUR PORTION AND THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT RUNS OUT THERE.
THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO THAT, SEEING THE CONDITIONS , WHEN IT'S WIDE OPEN, IN THE SUMMERTIME, ANY BREEZES APPRECIATED. AS WE BEEN HAVING THE CONDITION FOR A WHILE, YOU GET THAT TOP LAYER COMING OFF THE FIELD, AND YOU GET A FINE DUST THAT GOES EVERYWHERE. THIS IS A WINDBREAK, ESPECIALLY NOW . YOU WOULD WANT A WINDBREAK TO HELP YOU TO BE THE CHILLIER TEMPE OR -- TEMPERATURES, ALSO IN THE SUMMERTIME WE GET THE HARSH SOUTHERN BREEZE THAT COMES IN OFF THE FIELDS. REALLY STIR UP SOME DIRT TO GET INTO THERE. WHEN YOU ARE OUT THERE FOR SEVERAL HOURS, THAT BECOMES A BURDEN. THAT WAS ONE OF MY OBSERVATIONS I MADE LAST YEAR. MY GOAL WAS TO HELP RECTIFY SOME OF THAT. WE KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO IT WILL BE EIGHT, MITIGATE ALL OF THE DUST AND DEBRIS WE GET FLYING OUT THERE, BUT AT LEAST HELP WITH SOME OF IT. WE HAVE A PLAN IN THE WORKS. THE MANAGEMENT TEAM OVER AT THE FAIRGROUNDS TO HELP BRING THIS TO REALITY. IT'S NOT A LARGE AMOUNT, IT WAS A SMALLER AMOUNT WE WERE ABLE TO GET APPROVED , JUST BY MYSELF, AND NOT NEED TO BRING IT TO COURT, BUT IT'S GONE OVER. A PROJECT LIKE THIS IS WORTH HIGHLIGHTING AND BRINGING TO THE COURTS ATTENTION. ALSO, HOPEFULLY, TO THE COURTS SUPPORTS. THIS IS MY FUNDING. THIS IS THE AMOUNT AND HAS BEEN BIT OUT. THERE IS BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THIS. ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN HELP ANSWER AND HELP PROVIDE BACKGROUND, AS
WELL. >> JUST A,, COMMISSIONER, IF I COULD. I THOUGHT I HAD THIS BRILLIANT IDEA OF HELPING YOU OUT A LITTLE BIT IN READING OUR MONTHLY EXPENSE REPORTS THAT WE WILL GO OVER HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. I SAW THERE WAS A LITTLE OVER 1 MILLION BUCKS. 1.1 MILLION IN THE SALE OF ASSETS FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS. I'M ASSUMING THAT WAS MONEY THAT
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WAS LEFT OVER FROM THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY FOR THE OUTLET MALL. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, FROM YEARS PAST, WE WERE TOLD THAT MONEY HAD TO BE USED AT THE FAIRGROUNDS. BUT TERESA JUST WHISPERED IN MY EAR THAT YOU HAD THAT BUDGETING THE BUDGET LAST YEAR. IT'S NO LONGER THERE.>> YOU WORK ON A LONG TIME, BUT A.
>> I GUESS SO. ANYWAY. I THINK THIS IS , JUST TO GO ALONG WITH WHAT YOU SAID, COMMISSIONER, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD DEAL. AS YOU KNOW, THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY HOLDS A BIG EVENT OUT THERE. I GUESS IT WAS LAST YEAR THEY HAD THIS EVENT THERE. WE HAD A WINDSTORM . IT WAS NOT COMFORTABLE FOR ANYBODY. THIS WILL HELP . IF WE NEED TO DO MORE OF THIS AT THE EQUESTRIAN CENTER, SOMEWHERE IN THAT AREA, STILL TRYING TO GET MY HANDS AROUND PRECINCT 1 MONEY . IF I HAD SOME, HELP OUT WITH
ADDITIONAL IF WE NEED TO. YEAH. >> EDWARD, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW MANY WINDSCREENS WE HAVE ESTIMATED THAT WE WILL PUT
INTO USE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. ESSENTIALLY WE ARE LOOKING AT 11 SCREENS RIGHT NOW. THIS IS GOING TO BE A WAY TO ACTUALLY MONETIZE THOSE SCREENS, AS WELL. WE CAN ALWAYS PRINT SOME LOGOS, IF ANYONE WANTS TO BUY ONE OF THOSE SCREENS , RIGHT? THIS IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT. ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BRING IN MORE TRAFFIC INTO THE EQUESTRIAN CENTER. NOW THAT WE HAVE THAT ABILITY TO WHERE WE CAN COVER OFF THAT SECTION, AS COMMISSIONER SAID. THE WIND IS BLOWING FROM THE SOUTHEAST, DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR EVENTS. I AM LOOKING AT IT AS A PILOT TO START THE PROJECT. WE HAVE SOME ENGINEERING IN THERE SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE DON'T DO ANY DAMAGE TO THE FACILITY. AND THAT WE CAN, PERHAPS, IN THE FUTURE AS A COMMISSIONER SAYS,
EXPANDED TO THE EXTERIOR. >> THIS BASICALLY COVERS THE WEST WALL THERE . THESE WILL BE FIXED, THEY WON'T BE WHERE YOU
CAN RAISE AND LOWER THEM? >> THEY ARE GOING TO BE -- WERE GOING TO USE THEM ALL THE TIME, WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE THEM DOWN.
>> OKAY. OKAY, GOOD IDEA. THANK YOU.
>> YEAH, WE WANT THESE TO LAST FOR A WHILE.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. I WILL SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AND ONE
[7. Discuss and consider approval of 2025 Amendment to Supplemental Pay Allocation to Dept 1325 as designated by County Attorney in accordance with Section 46.0031 of the Texas Government Code.]
ABSENT. 3-0 VOTE. ALL RIGHT, ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.DISCUSSING THIS -- DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF 2025 AMENDMENT TO SUPPLEMENT PAY ALLOCATION TO DEPARTMENT 1325 AS DESIGNATED BY COUNTY ATTORNEY OF ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 46.0031 OF TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.
>> THERE'S A LETTER AS BACKUP, I BELIEVE THAT EXPLAINS THE CHANGE THAT JUST CHANGES THE SUPPLEMENT I TAKE FROM -- TO RAISE IT UP TO THE NEW AMOUNT.
>> COMMISSIONER, CAN I GO BACK AND BE SHOWING VOTING AYE ON
THE LAST ONE, PLEASE. >> ALL RIGHT.
>> YOU ARE SAYING. A TECHNICALITY. WE JUST HAVE TO
GO THROUGH . >> THIS IS A SUPPLEMENTAL FUND PROVIDED BY THE STATE THAT IS SPENT AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WORK MOST OF THE MONEY GOES TO SUPPLEMENT THE SALARIES OF THE ATTORNEYS AND THE STAFF IN MY OFFICE.
THIS IS THE STEP THAT TAKES CARE OF MY OWN SALARY.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> I AM JUST CURIOUS, DOES THIS HAVE TO COME TO THE AGENDA SINCE THIS IS YOUR DISCRETION.
>> MY UNDERSTANDING BEFORE I GOT HERE IT DID NOT COME, BUT WE WERE TOLD BY THE PREVIOUS AUDITOR IT NEEDED TO COME. I'M
HAPPY TO NOT BRING IT. >> I'M JUST CURIOUS. SOLE DISCRETION TO USE THIS ACCOUNT , SET UP BY THE SAME STATUTE. I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW. YOU MIGHT HAVE A CONFLICT RULING ON
YOUR OWN STATUTE. >> I AM HAPPY TO BRING IT TO THE COURT JUST SO THAT IT IS ALSO ON THE RECORD OF THE COURT , AND THERE FOR ANYONE TO SEE IN THE COMMUNITY.
>> THIS IS DEFINITELY A RATIFICATION, RIGHT?
>> THIS WHEN I HOPE YOU WOULD --
>> I AGREE WITH THAT. >> OKAY, LET'S GO. THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION? >> I MAKE A MOTION.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER BUZZ02. ANY DISCUSSION? NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU FOR BEING TRANSPARENT. YOU ALWAYS
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ARE, BUT WE WILL GO OFF OF WHAT YOU FELT YOU NEEDED TO BRING[8. Discuss and consider approval of reappointment of County Judge Connie Scott to Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone No. 2 (Island); and discuss and consider approval of appointment of Pct. 1 Commissioner, Mike Pusley to Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone No. 3 (Downtown) to replace County Judge Connie Scott, and related matters.]
FORWARD. SEEMS, LIKE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BRING IN THE>> NEXT IS ITEM EIGHT. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF REAPPOINTMENT OF COUNTY JUDGE CONNIE SCOTT TO TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER TWO, THE ISLAND, AND DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF APPOINTMENT OF PRECINCT 1 COMMISSIONER, MIKE, TO TAX INC. -- INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER THREE TO REPLACE COUNTY JUDGE CONNIE SCOTT, AND RELATED
>> MOTION AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. DISCUSSION.
>> LAST TIME I ASK THIS, JUDGE SCOTT THERE WAS AN UP, NOW SHE'S UP BECAUSE WE DID THIS THE LAST TIME. RIGHT. I ALSO ASKED IF I NEEDED TO BE REAPPOINTED. IS MY TERM NOT UP
EITHER? >> TERROR MONITORS THAT . SHE CAN PROBABLY RUN RIGHT IN AND GIVE US A BETTER EXPLANATION. I THINK THE JUDGE WANTED TO DEFER TO COMMISSIONER --
>> NO, I'M TALKING -- MY BAD. NOT MINE. I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT I DON'T NEED TO BE REAPPOINTED SINCE LAST TIME WE WERE TOLD THAT NEITHER DID JUDGE SCOTT, AND THE WE ARE REAPPOINTING HER. I'M JUST MAKING SURE I'M NOT GETTING LEFT OUT BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO STAY ON THAT. IF SOMEONE COULD FORMALLY MOVE OFF THIS ITEM I WOULD LIKE TO GET AN ANSWER ON THAT. I AM HOPING TARA IS GOING TO MAGICALLY WALK IN. THERE YOU GO, HOW ABOUT THAT? NUMBER TWO IS THE ISLAND, AND NUMBER THREE IS DOWNTOWN. IT'S RIGHT, YEAH.
>> THERE SHOULD BE A LIST OF THE BACKUP, SHOULD BE A LIST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS. YES, SIR, I WANT TO SAY YOU ARE NEXT YEAR.
JUDGE SCOTT, I FORGOT TO LIST HER. I THINK IT WAS ON THE LAST AGENDA IT WAS NOTICED AS COMMISSIONER -- COMMISSIONER BUZZ02 REPLACED WITH COMMISSIONER FOR TEARS TO ON THE ISLAND. YOU ARE AN EXPIRED SO YOU DIDN'T NEED TO BE REAPPOINTED. I FORGOT TO NOTICE JUDGE SCOTT LAST TIME. WE ARE REPLACING ON THE DOWNTOWN , JUDGE SCOTT WITH --
>> YEAH, THAT WHEN I'M NOT ASKING ABOUT. SORRY, THE BACKUP SHOWED I AM GOOD UNTIL 2025. I'M JUST MAKING SURE BECAUSE WE ARE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN LAST TIME A JUDGE SCOTT. OKAY, AS LONG AS WE ARE GOOD TO GO. THAT'S ALL I HAD A QUESTION ON, THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ON THIS ITEM. NO OTHER DISCUSSIONS , ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED
[9. Discuss and consider upcoming Commissioners Court meeting date(s), workshop date(s), and related matters.]
? NONE OPPOSED. FOREMAN IS A REPAIR ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE.DISCUSS AND CONSIDER UPCOMING COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING DATES DATES ARE FEBRUARY 5TH, FEBRUARY 19, MARCH 5TH, MARCH 19TH, APRIL 9TH AND APRIL 23RD. SEEING NO DISCUSSION TO MOVE AROUND DATES WE WILL PROCEED. THE COURT WILL NOTIFY THE PUBLIC TO MAKE CHANGES. ON TO ITEM, C, AUDITOR. WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS THIS WEEK. OH, I AM SORRY, RIGHT OVER PUBLIC WORKS. I WILL DO THAT. WE DON'T NEED YOU. WE SEE KNEW
[1. Discuss and consider approval of Change Order No. 1 in the amount of $493,759.00 ARPA funds, with Victory Building Team for the Medical Examiner Addition & Renovation project, and related matters.]
>> DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE IN THE AMOUNT OF $493,759 ARPA FUNDS WITH VICTORY BUILDING TEAM FOR THE MEDICAL EXAMINER ADDITION AND RENOVATION PROJECT AND RELATED MATTERS.
>> RECOMMENDING THE $493,759 FROM ARPA MONIES. ALSO MEDICAL EXAMINERS. CHOOSING ALTERNATE ONE, ALTERNATIVE, WHICH IS FOR PARKING IMPROVEMENTS, AND ALTERNATE NUMBER FIVE IS FOR HVAC IMPROVEMENTS AT THE EXISTING FACILITY. AND THEN THE PURCHASE OF THE FOR AUTOPSY TABLES , AND SIX SURGICAL LIGHTS . RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
>> THIS IS ALL FROM PRECINCT TWO?
>> PART OF IT IS PRECINCT TO -- TWO.
>> IT'S THE MEDICAL EXAMINERS EQUIPMENT AND OFFICE FURNITURE.
>> IN THE BUDGET. OKAY, THANK YOU.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS?
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I HAD A CHANCE TO GO UP THERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND SEE OUR TEAM OUT THERE . THEY ARE DOING GREAT WORK. WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE DOCTORS THAT WE DO , THE ADDITIONAL STAFF. I KNOW WE HAVE ALL BEEN OUT THERE AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER. JUST TO, THINK, GO OUT THERE AND SHOW OUR SUPPORT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THAT TEAM . THEY ARE SO VITAL. SUCH A SMALL POOL, ESPECIALLY FOR THE DOCTORS, ADMINISTRATORS THAT SPECIALIZE IN NETWORK. EVERYTHING WE ARE DOING IN -- ON OUR AND TO SUPPORT. THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE HAVE PUT THEIR OWN FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE DEPARTMENT. WHICH IS NEEDED TO KEEP A STABLE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR -- FINANCIALLY IF WE DON'T.HEARING NO OTHER DISCUSSIONS -- >> I WANT TO BRING IT BACK ON THE NEXT MEETING . AND ALSO GET STARTED.
>> YES, SIR. >> OKAY. A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE AMOUNT FOR CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE. ANY OTHER
DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS? OKAY. >> ANOTHER ITEM.
[1. Discuss and consider the request from the Nueces County Juvenile Probation Department to include Mental Health Services and Medical Physician Services as an addition to the Supplier Payment Exception List not requiring Commissioners Court pre-approval, and related matters.]
>> ALL RIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE . ANY OPPOSED? 4-0.
THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. NOW TWO AUDITORS, ITEM C1. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE REQUEST OF THE NUESCES COUNTY JUVENILE PROBATION DEPARTMENT TO INCLUDE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AND MEDICAL PHYSICIAN SERVICES AS AN ADDITION TO THE SUPPLIER PAYMENT EXCEPTION LIST NOT REQUIRING COMMISSIONERS COURT PREAPPROVAL AND RELATED MATTERS.
>> THIS ITEM WAS ADDED TO THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF THE JUVENILE DEPARTMENT. I BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE IS HERE FROM
JUVENILE TO DISCUSS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. IDENTIFY
YOURSELF AND YOUR TITLE. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS DR. CLAUDIA, I AM THE MENTAL HEALTH SUPERVISOR FOR THE NUESCES COUNTY JUVENILE JUSTICE PROVISIONAL DEPARTMENT.
>> THANK YOU, PLEASE PROCEED. >> HELLO, WE WERE MAKING THIS REQUEST. WE HAVE SEVERAL OF OUR CONTRACTORS THAT WORK WITH US PROVIDING MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES . WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH BEING ABLE TO HIGHER COUNSELORS FOR OUR FULL-TIME POSITIONS CURRENTLY. WE HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB OF BEING ABLE TO BRING PEOPLE ABOARD TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES AS CONTRACT OTHERS. THE CHALLENGE IS THERE IS OFTEN A DELAY IN BEING ABLE TO REIMBURSE THEM FOR THOSE SERVICES. WE ARE REQUESTING THAT WE ARE ABLE TO MOVE TO PUT THEM ON THE EXCEPTION LIST TO REDUCE THAT DELAY IN BEING ABLE TO PAY THEM . FOR MANY OF THEM THIS IS THEIR ONLY SOURCE OF INCOME , AND WE COULD NOT OPERATE OUR FACILITIES AND PROVIDE ALL THE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES WITHOUT THEM.
>> SO MOVED . >> THANK YOU, DOCTOR. MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS FROM THE COURT? SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? NONE.
[2. Discuss and Approve Yield Reduction Payment for Positive Arbitrage in the Amount of $140,471.54 to United States Treasury and Execution of IRS form 8038-T, and related matters.]
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, DR.. APPRECIATE IT, AND YOUR WORK.ITEM NUMBER TWO FROM THE AUDITOR. DISCUSS AND IMPROVE YIELD REDUCTION PAYMENT FOR POSITIVE ARBOR TO IN THE AMOUNT OF $140,471.54 TO UNITED STATES TREASURY AND EXECUTION OF IRS FORM 803-T AND RELATED MATTERS.
>> RESULT OF REINVESTING THE PROCEEDS FROM THE TAX-EXEMPT DEBT IN A MATERIALLY HIGHER INTEREST -- YIELDING TAXABLE SECURITY . AS ROLE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES REQUIRE THE EXCESS INTEREST EARNINGS BE REMITTED AS AN ARBITRAGE REBATE BACK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I HAVE MATT ON ZOOM AVAILABLE TO DISCUSS THE REPORT HE HAS PREPARED THAT IS ALSO ATTACHED
TO THE AGENDA. >> MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? GONZALES. ANY DISCUSSION FROM
THE COURT? >> MADE TOO MUCH INTEREST.
>> WE MADE TOO MUCH INTEREST. >> THEN YOU HAVE TO PAY IT.
>> BY FEBRUARY 15TH. >> NO DELAYS HERE.
>> I AM REQUESTING EARLY RELEASE OF THAT . IT IS ON THE AGENDA ITEM, AS WELL, TO BE EARLY RELEASE SO WE ARE ABLE TO MEET THAT FEBRUARY 15TH DEADLINE.
>> OKAY. THAT IS PART OF THE MOTION?
>> YES. >> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION
[3. Approve Budget Amendment No. 02 for Fiscal Year 2024-2025.]
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AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. ITEM PASSES. ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE. APPROVED BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025.>> I RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT BUDGET CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 24 DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL. WE HAVE, AGAIN, ATTACHED THE ITEM FOR THE TAX APPRAISAL DISTRICT BUDGET CHANGE ORDER, HOWEVER, I WAS ADVISED THAT IT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK FOR COMMISSIONERS COURT THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY. I WOULD REQUEST THAT THE BUDGET CHANGE ORDER , IN CALL CENTER 12850 FOUR GENERAL ADMINISTRATION, THAT IS FOR $79,480 BE TABLED, PENDING THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, AS PER THE REQUEST -- PREVIOUS REQUEST OF COMMISSIONER BUZZ01.
>> NOTED AS PART OF THE MOTION. IS THERE A MOTION FROM THE
COURT? >> MOTION AND SECOND. THAT IS HOLDING THE TAX APPRAISAL DISTRICT ITEM TWO, FEBRUARY 5TH MEETING. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I WILL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION OR
COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? >> WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF
WAITING? >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED TO SPEAK WITH THE DISTRICT. I WAS ADVISED AFTER WE ALREADY SUBMITTED THE AGENDA ITEM THAT THEY WERE GOING TO POSTPONE TO THE FOLLOWING COURT. IF I WAS ADVISING CORRECTLY, I APOLOGIZE.
>> I THINK THE JUDGE WANTED TO BE HERE. WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE A FULL-COURT PRESS. APPARENTLY THIS DOES NOT HURT THE COUNTY, NECESSARILY. TO WAIT A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
>> NO BUILD DUE UNTIL MARCH , I THINK. SORRY. I SHOULD'VE PICKED UP ON THAT. I SHOULD'VE RESPONDED, I AM SORRY.
>> THAT'S WHY WE STATED THE ITEM IS REMOVED. EVERYTHING ELSE IS INCLUDED. NO, I AM SORRY. ALL THE ITEMS ON THERE EXCEPT ITEM 12 850. WHICH IS THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT. THAT'S THE MOTION . THAT WAS THE SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? IS THAT GOOD? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, ALL
[4. Receive Monthly Financial Reports for Fiscal year 2023-2024 for the twelve months ended September 30, 2024.]
THOSE IN FAVOR , AYE. OPPOSED, NAY. THANK YOU, ITEM PASSES. ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. RECEIVE MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023-2024 FOR THE 12 MONTHS ENDING SEPTEMBER30TH, 2024. >> COMMISSIONER THIS IS THE ON AUDITED A -- UNADJUSTED MONTHLY EXPENSE REPORT FOR THE 12 MONTHS ENDED SEPTEMBER 30TH 2024. IF YOU TURN TO PAGE TWO, THERE IS AN UNADJUSTED ON AUDITED FUNDING BALANCE. PLEASE BE ADVISED THERE SEVERAL LARGE ITEMS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN POSTED AS OF THE DATE THIS WAS RAM. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE TWO MILLION-DOLLAR TRANSFER THE COMMISSIONER SCORE APPROVED ON DECEMBER 11TH 2024. I AM BRINGING SEVERAL ITEMS BACK FOR COMMISSIONERS COURT DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION , INCLUDING A REFUND THAT WAS MADE FOR THE ANNEX GENERATOR THAT WAS THE GRANT WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING A MOMENT AGO. THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK ON THE FIFTH. ALSO A REFUND THAT WILL BE ISSUED .
THERE IS ALSO A SHORTAGE INLAND PARKS THAT I WILL BE DISCUSSING , AND A PREVIOUS LONG-TERM RECEIVABLE THAT IS IN GROUP HEALTH THAT AGAIN WOULD -- I CAN PROVIDE OPTIONS FOR HOW WE CAN FUND THAT. THOSE ALL WERE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2024. THESE ARE ALL ME BRINGING BACK FOR COURT OFFICIAL DECISIONS FOR ITEMS PREVIOUSLY -- PREVIOUSLY NOTED WITH DISCUSSING THE BUDGET. WITH THAT SAID, THE ON AUDITED UNADJUSTED ENDING FUND BALANCE FOR THE GENERAL FUND IS CURRENTLY 26 MILLION 259 -- I AM ANTICIPATING THAT'S GOING TO DECREASE AGAIN. WE KNOW 2 MILLION HAS COME OFF OF THAT, SO THAT IS 24 MILLION . THE ADDITIONAL ITEMS COULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT THAT. IT WOULD ALL BE PENDING COMMISSIONERS COURT'S DECISIONS. I DID ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT ON PAGE 17 OF THE REPORT , THE COUNTY CLERK ,
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THERE IS AN OVERTIME EXPENSE THAT IS INCORRECTLY REFLECTEDIN COSTA CENTER -- >> ARE YOU READING FROM
SEPTEMBER? >> I'M READING FROM SEPTEMBER.
THAT IS ON PAGE TWO THAT HAS THE --
>> FUND BALANCE. >> THE FUND BALANCE. WITH THE TWO MILLION-DOLLAR TRANSFER THE COMMISSIONER OR APPROVED ON DECEMBER 11TH , THE FUND BALANCE WOULD BE 24,000,002 15 NINE 561 . LIKE I SAID, THERE ARE SEVERAL LARGE ITEMS THAT I AM GOING TO BRING TO COURT ON THE EIGHTH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. AS FUNDING NEEDS TO BE DETERMINED FOR THOSE
ITEMS. >> DID WE PUT -- DIDN'T WE SPECIFICALLY ALLOCATE SOME RECENT FUNDS TO GO TO THE FUND RESERVES ? ARE WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET?
>> THAT'S IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR THAT THOSE ADDITIONAL FUNDS ARE GOING TO GO TO THE FUND BALANCE.
>> THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE THOSE BACK IN.
>> THAT'S GOING TO BE IN YOUR FISCAL YEAR ENDING -- THESE ARE GOING TO AFFECT YOUR FUND BALANCE.
>> AS OF FEBRUARY 1ST, 2025, WHAT IS IN THE RESERVES, YOU ARE GOING TO SAY WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS. WHICH IS GOING TO BE 24 MILLION 259 561, MINUS WHAT YOU SAID PLUS --
>> PLUS THE TRANSFERS, MINUS THE EXPENSES.
>> IF WE WANT A REAL-TIME NUMBER, WHAT WE ALWAYS WANT TO KNOW, WHAT I WANT TO KNOW, WHAT THE COURT DOES, TOO. THAT'S
THE REAL-TIME NUMBER. >> IN ORDER TO GET THE REAL-TIME NUMBER YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE BEGINNING FUND BALANCE. I NEED THOSE ITEMS TO GET THE BEGINNING FUND BALANCE.
I WILL HAVE THAT REAL-TIME NUMBER FOR THE DECEMBER REPORT.
>> JUST MAKE SURE FOR THE DECEMBER REPORT -- OH, OKAY.
>> ESTIMATE OF IT. IT IS A MOVING TARGET.
>> IT MOVES REGULARLY. RIGHT NOW IT'S A 26 MILLION IT'S GOING TO GO TO 24. YOU'RE GOING TO PRESENT TICKET ITEMS, I GET IT. DON'T FORGET TO DO THE ADDITIONS AS WELL AS THE
>> I WANT TO SHOW WE ARE REPLACING THOSE FUNDS WITH
OTHER FUNDS WHEN WE CAN . >> OKAY, GOING INTO THE DETAILS, AFTER SPEAKING WITH THE COUNTY CLERK, THERE WAS A POSITION THAT WAS MOVED TO A DIFFERENT COST CENTER, HOWEVER IT WAS -- IT WAS NOT PROPERLY TRANSFERRED. THEREFORE, THE COST OF THAT OVERTIME IS GOING TO GET MOVED TO DEPARTMENT 11 900 , WHICH IS COUNTY CLERK ELECTIONS. THERE IS ALSO A TYPO ON PAGE 18 . LEDGER ACCOUNT 541000, OTHER SERVICES AND CHARGES. 37,430 MINUS $34,981 IS A POSITIVE 2490 -- NOT A NEGATIVE $11,617. THERE IS A POINT -- .65% OF THE BUDGET STILL AVAILABLE. THAT LEAVES OUT OF THE AVAILABLE BALANCE AT THE END , FOR THE CALL CENTER, OF $11,149, RATHER THAN THE NEGATIVE 2009 17 DISPLAYED. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. CALCULATION ERROR. ASSUMING THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, I CAN MOVE ON TO THE NOVEMBER REPORT. THERE'S NO ACTION NECESSARY BY COURT, IT IS JUST RECEIVING THE PRESENTATION.
>> BEFORE REMOVE, I HAVE A QUESTION.
>> YES, SIR. >> IF YOU GO TO PAGE NINE OF THE SEPTEMBER VERSION , THIS LISTS ALL OF THE INCOME FROM
OUR RENTALS AT THE AIRPORT . >> YES, SIR.
>> WHY IS THERE -- IS THE WILLIAMS HANGAR NO LONGER BEING
RENTED? >> I WILL DEFER TO TERESA. WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THAT? ISN'T THAT THE ONE WE JUST TOOK THE COURT WITH THE CONTRACT? THERE WAS NO CONTRACT IN PLACE, AND THEREFORE NO REVENUE WAS COLLECTED IS MY UNDERSTANDING .
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>> FOR HOW LONG? >> A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF
TIME. >> I BELIEVE THE CONTRACT ENDED IN APRIL, COMMISSIONER. JOHN COX WOULD HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED , AS FAR AS NOT BRINGING IT BACK.
>> WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER HANGERS THERE. THREE, FOUR, FIVE THAT ALSO SHOW ZERO INCOME. WHY IS THAT? MY UNDERSTANDING, WE HAVE PEOPLE WAITING IN LINE FOR HANGERS.
WHAT WOULD WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE NOT BEING CHARGED?
>> PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH COUNTY JUDGE. I THINK SHE'S BEEN WORKING ON IT. IN ALL THE DETAILS FOR
THAT. UNLESS TERESA DOES. >> I NEED TO VERIFY THE LIST.
>> SHE'S WORKING ON IT. >> I NEED TO FOLLOW UP WITH MY STAFF. CAN WE SCHEDULE A MEETING TO DISCUSS?
>> WE REALLY HAVE ONE SAID -- SCHEDULED.
>> SOUNDS GREAT. >> I THINK WE NEED TO BE KEPT ABREAST OF WHAT'S GOING ON. WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS WE ASKED ABOUT THE HANGERS LAST TIME. A LOT OF QUESTIONS BEFORE THE ABOUT THE AMOUNT PEOPLE BEING PAID THEY ARE NOT PAYING.
IN THE AMOUNT OF FEES. VERY SLOW IN SOME HANGERS. I THINK WHEN YOU JUST WRITE DOWN AGAIN , YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON, WHO OWNS WHAT, WHO'S PAYING FOR WHAT --
>> WHO'S ON FIRST? >> WHO'S ON FIRST, WHO'S ON
THIRD. >> STAFF HAS BEEN HELPING THE COURT BUILD UP THAT BOARD. THERE WAS TIME WERE BROKEN UP AND HAVEN'T HAD ANY MEETINGS. I KNOW MOST, IF NOT ALL OF US HAD MADE OUR APPOINTMENTS. THREE -- WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE A FULL BOARD THERE ASSIGNED HELPING. MOST OF THEM ARE RETURNING MEMBERS . THEY ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS. I THINK CAN HELP US ALSO WITH THAT.
>> I'M NOT TRYING TO POINT FINGERS AT ANYBODY, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET UP TO SPEED AS TO WHY THESE ARE NOT -- I WAS HERE BEFORE THE WILLIAMS ANGER REPORT. ONE OF THE LARGER ONES.
>> THAT IS CORRECT. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, TOO.
>> OKAY, IF YOU WILL GET THE INFORMATION FOR MYSELF , THAT
WOULD BE GREAT. >> I CAN WORK WITH TREES AND WE CAN GET SOMETHING PREPARED FOR ONE OF THE COURTS IN FEBRUARY.
IN FEBRUARY, WE WILL BRING IT BACK FOR THE COURT IN FEBRUARY.
>> ALSO COMING IN THE FUTURE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHO IS
RUNNING WHAT. >> THE NAME OF WHO --
>> YEAH, THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S OKAY.
>> ONE MORE COLUMN THAT SHOWS WHO IS EXACTLY RENTING IT.
>> WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE USING IT FOR AIRCRAFT STORAGE, NOT SOMEONE RENTING TO PUT THEIR HOUSEHOLD FURNITURE.
>> FURNITURE . HORSES. >> WE ACTUALLY HAD THAT PROBLEM
THERE BEFORE. >> IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PROBLEM WAS THERE BEFORE , BUT I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY GONE NOW AND EXPECT THAT THE CONTENTS OF SAID HANGERS.
>> MA'AM, I AM NOT EXPECTING YOU TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
>> OKAY, SIR. >> I WILL GET THAT INFORMATION FROM THE AIRPORT MANAGER. HE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPLY YOU WITH A LIST OF NAMES OF WHO ARE RENTING THE HANGERS.
>> YES, SIR. >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ITEM H WAS TABLED. ON TO ITEM E, ONE, TWO, AND THREE. INFORMATION
TECHNOLOGY. >> YOU WANT NOVEMBERS REPORT?
>> I AM SORRY . I AM ALREADY MOVING. I THOUGHT WE WERE NOT
AT FIVE? >> NO, WE WERE AT NUMBER FOUR.
[5. Receive Monthly Financial Reports for Fiscal year 2024-2025 for two months ended November 30, 2024.]
>> OKAY, I HEARD YOU TALKING ABOUT FIVE AND I THOUGHT WE WERE DONE. ANY QUESTIONS ON FIVE? NO ACTION ON FOUR.
>> NO QUESTIONS. >> AGAIN, WE ARE --
>> I'M SORRY. >> NOT FIVE. ARE WE THROUGH WITH FIVE? WE DIDN'T GET THE PERSONNEL REPORT?
>> PERSONNEL. >> I THINK IT WAS ON CONSENT.
THAT IS PROVIDED BY HR. THAT'S A LOT OF THE FUNCTIONS OF HR THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY PERFORMED BY AUDITORS OFFICE ARE NOW OVER IN HR. THEY ARE OUT OF OUR HANDS.
>> CONSENT. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
>> ITEM H ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
>> WHY DID WE MOVE IT? >> WE'VE ALWAYS HAD IT ON
CONSENT. >> IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN CONSENT , FOR AS LONG AS I'VE EVER KNOWN IT TO BE.
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>> I DON'T REMEMBER THAT ONE, BUT OKAY. I LOOK AT IT AND I DIDN'T SEE IT. CAN YOU JUST SEND ME ONE?
>> SURE. THREE-PUTTED IN THE CONSENT AGENDA. I WOULD LIKE TO
GET ONE MYSELF. >> IT WAS ATTACHED TO THE
AGENDA ITEM. SURE. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
THAT WAS ON FOUR. THAT WAS FIVE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OUR AUDITOR? APPRECIATE YOU . YOU CAN PUT IT TO ALL OF THIS. NOW WE WILL GO INTO ITEM E.
[1. Discuss and consider the Director of Human Resources job description and post job for applications, and all related matters.]
>> WE DIDN'T TABLE D? >> OKAY.
>> COMMISSIONER, SORRY, I WOULD LIKE HIM MOTION TO TABLE D1
UNTIL FULL-COURT PRESS . >> SECOND.
>> MOTION AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR . OPPOSED. THAT IS JUST FULL-COURT PRESS AGAIN. AVAILABLE FOR DISCUSSION . THAT IS STILL MOVING FORWARD, THOUGH. WE DO HAVE INTERIM POSITION . WE ARE STILL MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ITEM ITSELF.
BEEN ADDRESSED, IT'S NOT, LIKE, WE ARE OPERATING WITHOUT INTERIM. ZERO, GOOD TO SEE YOU. YOU HAVE THREE ITEMS. ITEM
[1. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving execution of an agreement for $69,038.96 with Omnia Partners/Insight Public Sector, Inc., under Cobb County Cooperative Contract No. 23-6692-03, for the purchase of a one (1) year subscription to Commvault Cloud Backup & Recovery for Microsoft 365 Enterprise, and related matters.]
[2. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving execution of a 36-month Service Order for $21,089.76 with Charter Communications operating as LLC/Spectrum Enterprise (“Spectrum”) to upgrade cable TV service at the Courthouse and Jail, and related matters.]
[3. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving execution of an agreement for $57,094.94 with Sequel Data Systems Inc., under Texas Department of Information Resources (“DIR”) Cooperative Contract No. DIR-TSO-4331, for the purchase of Pure C20 Flash Array data storage system, and related matters.]
NUMBER ONE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING AND IMPROVING EXECUTION OF AN AGREEMENT FOR $69,038.96 WITH PARTNERS UNDER COBB COUNTY COOPERATIVE CONTRACT NUMBER 23-6692-03, FOR THE PURCHASE OF ONE YEAR SUBSCRIPTION TO CLOUD BACKUP AND RECOVERY FOR MICROSOFT 365 ENTERPRISE ANDRELATED MATTERS. >> COMMISSIONER, IF IT LOSES THE COURT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS ONE,
TWO, AND THREE. >> OKAY. MOTIONS TO APPROVE .
LET ME READ ITEM NUMBER TWO. THAT'S A MOTION, DO WE HAVE A
>> SECOND. I WILL READ SECTIONS 2 AND THREE FOR PUBLIC. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING AND IMPROVING EXECUTION OF A 36 MONTH SERVICE ORDER FOR $21,089.76 WITH CHARTER COMMUNICATIONS OPERATING AS LLC SPECTRUM ENTERPRISES TO UPGRADE CABLE TV SERVICE AT HORSE AND JAIL AND RELATED MATTERS. ITEM NUMBER THREE. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING EXECUTION OF AN AGREEMENT FOR -- COOPERATIVE CONTRACT NUMBER -- FOR THE PURCHASE OF PURE C 20 FLASH ARRAY DATA STORAGE SYSTEM, AND RELATED MATTERS. THOSE ARE THE ITEMS ONE THROUGH THREE UNDER I.T. WITH A MOTION ON A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, DARRELL.
APPRECIATE IT. DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS THAT WE HAVE PENDING OR WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON? I DON'T HAVE ANY ON MY PAPER.
WHEN IS THE JUDGE COMING BACK? ALL RIGHT. WE WILL GO INTO OUR
[ Adjournment in Memory (upon request)]
SECTION OF THE AGENDA WHERE WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN IN MEMORY.DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE COURT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SHARE ? ANYONE THEY WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THAT HAS PASSED . WE DID MENTION JUDGE -- HIS FATHER . SOME INFORMAL INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED. THE RECOGNIZE BOTH JUDGES AND THE PASSING OF THEIR FATHER AND FATHER-IN-LAW. I HAVE ONE. THIS IS FOR REGINA IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE. HER MOTHER PASSED ON JANUARY 16TH, 2025. HER VIEWING AND SERVICE IS SCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW AND WITH THE BURIAL FOLLOWING. HER LIFE BEGAN JULY 12TH, 1946 AND ENDED LAST WEEK. OUR CONDOLENCES, OUR THOUGHTS AND CONDOLENCES TO REGINA . THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING
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ME TO READ THAT ON HER BEHALF. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, THANK YOU TO THE COURT FOR TIME, AND STAFF AND PRESEN