Oct 16, 2024 Commissioners Court - Regular

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>>> LORD WE ARE TOLD IN YOUR WORD WE ARE TO HAVE THE SAME MIND IN US THAT WAS IN YOUR. WHEN IT CAME TO THIS WORLD NOT TO BE SERVED, BUT TO SERVE AND GIVE YOUR LIFE FOR ANY, SO WE PRAY THAT THIS COURT HAVE YOUR HEART AND YOUR MIND TODAY LED BY YOUR SPIRITS EVERYTHING SAID AND DONE TODAY BE FOR THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE AND THE GLORY OF YOUR NAME WE PRAY IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> THANK YOU, YOU MADE ME SEATED. WE HAVE ALL COMMISSIONERS PRESENT. IT IS WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 16, WE ARE AT THE NUECES COUNTY COURTROOM 901 LEOPARD AND IT IS 9:11. I WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. NEXT AGENDA ITEM, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES OR CONFLICTS OF INTEREST FROM ANYONE? IF YOU HAVE ONE LATER AND NEED TO BRING IT UP, YOU

[1. Discuss and consider adopting a resolution designating the month of October 2024 as “Domestic Violence and Prevention Month”; and related matters. ]

THAT? >> THE IMPACT OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE EXTENDS BEYOND THE IMMEDIATE VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS AFFECTING CHILDREN AND FAMILIES AND THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE WITH LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES ON PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH ECONOMIC STABILITY AND OVERALL WELL-BEING. WHEREAS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE RELATED HOMICIDES AND INJURIES ARE PREVENTABLE WHEN COMMUNITIES TAKE ACTION TO SUPPORT SURVIVORS, HOLD ABUSERS ACCOUNTABLE AND PROVIDE ACCESS TO SERVICES SUCH AS EMERGENCY SHELTER, LEGAL ASSISTANCE, COUNSELING AND ADVOCACY WHEREAS NATIONAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND PREVENTION MONTH OBSERVED EACH OCTOBER PROVIDES OPPORTUNITY FOR INDIVIDUALS, COMMUNITIES AND GOVERNMENT ENTITIES TO PROMOTE AWARENESS, SUPPORT SURVIVORS AND WORK TOWARD THE ERADICATION OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. THEREFORE NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT JOINS THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND ENCOURAGING SOLIDARITY WITH SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND REAFFIRMS COMMITMENT TO ENSURING THAT THE UNITY IS A SAFE PLACE FOR ALL RESIDENTS BY STATING SUPPORT RESOURCES AND ADVOCACY TO ALL SURVIVORS. BE IT PROCLAIMED THE MISSIONERS COURT DOES DESIGNATE THE MONTH OF OCTOBER 2024 AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS AND PREVENTION MONTH. ADOPTED BY THE VOTE OF COMMISSIONERS COURT NUECES COUNTY COUNTY TEXAS OCTOBER 16, 2024.

>> SO MOVED. A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE SOME FOLKS WHO WANT TO TALK. AND ARE YOU

GOING TO SPEAK TOO? >> GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. WE ARE GLAD AND HONORED TO BRING THIS TO THE COURT TODAY IN CONJUNCTION WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE PERFECT DOOR AND I HAVE MARSHA PETTIS IN THE OFFICE, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO THANK OUR PARTNERS IN THIS VERY IMPORTANT MISSION THAT WE ALL HAVE AND WE WERE TALKING IN THE OFFICE TODAY AND PEOPLE WERE SAYING HAPPY THIS AND THAT AND WHAT I THINK YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IS, YOU CANNOT BUY, YOU CANNOT PAY A SALARY TO ANYBODY FOR THEM TO WAKE UP EVERY DAY AND COME AND DEAL WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE VERY WORST PARTS OF THEIR LIVES. TO DO IT WITH THE COMPASSION THAT WE ARE, I AM SO PROUD OF OUR TEAM. ABLE TO SHARE AND SHOW VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. I AM SO PROUD TO BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY

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>> I AM LAME JENNIFER RADCLIFFE WITH A PURPLE DOOR. SUPERVISOR FOR THE NONRESIDENTIAL PROGRAM. AGAIN THANK YOU FOR INVITING US AND BEING PART OF THIS. WE COULD NOT DO OUR WORK WITHOUT THEM. BUT WE ARE HERE TO HELP THE COMMUNITY AND 12 COUNTIES.

KRISTIN IS HERE, THE ADVOCATE FROM CORPUS SO SHE IS HERE TO HELP PEOPLE GO FROM WHERE THEY ARE TO WHERE THEY WANT TO BE.

WHETHER IT IS SHELTER OR STAYING HOME AND HAVING HER HELP YOU TO THAT PROCESS. THANK YOU FOR RECOMMENDING THIS AND FOR BRINGING THIS ATTENTION TO THE COUNTY. IT IS A VERY

IMPORTANT ISSUE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO BY ALL MEANS. ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAK OR ANYBODY ELSE? WE HAVE A RESOLUTION FOR YOU SOMEWHERE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS. DO YOU HAVE IT? SOMEBODY HAD THEM AND THEY GOT LEFT BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO A PHOTO, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT ORGANIZATION AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO, WE APPRECIATE THE COUNTY OFFICE FOR THE WORK THEY DO AS WELL. SO, YES.

>> FRANCIS, IS THAT IT? THEY WENT OUTSIDE. THEY NEED SIGNATURES. THE THIRD ONE YOU SIGNED. THE OTHER TWO. YES.

LOOKS LIKE THIS HAS BEEN A MORNING FOR EVERYBODY. WEIGHT, SO YOU CAN TAKE IT OUT TO THEM.

[1. In recognition of the inaugural London Athletics Hall of Fame Inductees. ]

>> MOVING ON ITEM F. IN RECOGNITION OF THE INAUGURAL LONDON ATHLETICS HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES PRECINCT 4 COMMISSIONER CHESNEY YOU PUT THIS ON.

>> YES I WANT TO READ THAT, RESOLUTION RECOGNITION OF THE INAUGURAL LONDON ATHLETICS HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES WHEREAS THE INAUGURAL LONDON ATHLETICS HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES CONSIST OF NAME ] TRACK AND FIELD FOOTBALL TENNIS 2021 FOOTBALL 2021 BASEBALL, VOLLEYBALL.

DR. DAVID FREEMAN LONDON ISD SUPERINTENDENT 2014 OR 2019 AND

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THEREFORE BE RESOLVED BY COMMISSIONERS COURT OF NUECES COUNTY HEREBY RECOGNIZE THE COMPASS MINTS OF THE INAUGURAL LONDON ATHLETICS HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES AND CONGRATULATES THEM ON THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS. DULY ADOPTED BY THE VOTE OF COMMISSIONERS COURT OF NUECES COUNTY ON OCTOBER 16, 2024 AND

I WOULD MOVE TO PASS THIS. >> OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION

[2. In recognition of the 2024 W.B. Ray High School Athletic Hall of Fame Inductees. ]

THAT ONE. >> WHEREAS MR. DAVID HASTINGS CLASS OF 1976 WILL BE RECOGNIZED FOR HIS SUCCESSFUL ROLE ON THE RAY HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL TEAM, PLACEKICKER FOR THE TEXANS THROUGHOUT HIS HIGH SCHOOL CAREER AND CONTRIBUTED TO THE 1975 UNDEFEATED DISTRICT CHAMPIONSHIP WITH A GAME-WINNING FIELD GOAL. AFTER HIGH SCHOOL DAVID GRADUATED FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS IN AUSTIN WITH ABS IN EDUCATION.

NAME ] CLASS OF 1997 WILL BE RECOGNIZED FOR HER AMAZING CAREER ON THE TEXANS TENNIS TEAM. RESPONSIBLE FOR THE 1995 AND 1996 DISTRICT CHAMPIONSHIP FOR THE TEXANS. SHE COMPETED IN THE UNITED STATES TENNIS ASSOCIATION TOURNAMENT WHERE SHE RANKED IN THE TOP 15 IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AS A SUPER CHAMPION PLAYER. DUE TO HER AMAZING CAREER IN TENNIS SHE IS A MANAGER FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT OF THE UT AS A TEXAS WORKING WITH COMMUNITY TENNIS ASSOCIATIONS.

WHEREAS OUTSTANDING TENNIS CAREER. MR. WHITE COMPETED IN THE STATE SEMIFINALS HIS JUNIOR YEAR AND LATER THE 1958 STATE CHAMPION HIS SENIOR YEAR. WITH A FULL SCHOLARSHIP TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN HE WAS AN ALL-AMERICAN AND CAPTAIN AS WELL AS SOUTHWESTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPION. AFTER GRADUATION A REGULAR ON THE PROFESSIONAL TENNIS CIRCUIT BECOMING A NATIONALLY RANKED TENNIS PLAYER. HE ACHIEVED HIS DREAM OF PLAYING IN THE U.S. OPEN TENNIS CHAMPIONSHIP. THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY COMMISSIONERS COURT OF THE NUECES COUNTY HEREBY RECOGNIZES THE COMPASS MINTS OF THE 2024 WB RAY HIGH SCHOOL INDUCTEES AND CONGRATULATES THEM ON THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS. ADOPTED BY VOTE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF NUECES COUNTY ON THE 16TH DAY OF OCTOBER, 2024.

>> THANK YOU EMILY. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, MOTION PASSES

[G. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP AND YOU WISH TO DO

[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]

>> W. >> JUDGE I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO PASS ALL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, BUT ITEM W .

>> MOTION AND SECOND PASS ALL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS EXCEPT W.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? SORRY. >> A QUESTION ON K.

>> WOULD YOU CHANGE YOUR MOTION?

>> THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED ? THE MOTION PASSES

[K. Approve the bond for the Interim County Auditor, Lisa Davis. ]

ITEM K COMES UP FIRST. >> HAVE WE GOT ANY APPLICATIONS

OR HAVE WE ANNOUNCED THE JOB? >> THE JOB WAS ALREADY POSTED.

I WAS OFFERED THE POSITION OF INTERIM COUNTY AUDITOR AND I

ACCEPTED. >> CONGRATULATIONS.

>> THANK YOU. I WILL FINISH OUT THE REMAINDER OF BILL'S TERM AND THEN IT WILL BE ELIGIBLE TO BE APPOINTED AS COUNTY AUDITOR SHOULD THE BOARD OF JUDGES SO CHOOSE.

>> WONDERING IF THERE WERE OTHER APPLICANTS.

>> THEY INTERVIEWED AND ACCEPTED THE BOARD OF JUDGES.

>> I UNDERSTAND. >> THERE WERE SOME OTHER APPLICANTS AND THEY INTERVIEWED ONE OTHER PERSON, ONE PERSON WITHDREW AFTER THEY TURNED IN THE LOCATION.

>> CONGRATULATIONS. >> I MEANT TO BRING IT UP. WE

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ACCEPTING THE POSITION. >> THANK YOU, I LOOK FORWARD TO

WORKING WITH EVERYBODY. >> THIS IS SIX MONTHS INTERIM?

>> FINISHING OUT THE UNEXPIRED TERM. DO YOU KNOW WHEN IT COMES

UP? >> THE TERM IS THROUGH APRIL

15. >> MOVE PASSAGE?

>> YES. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. THE MOTION PASSES. TWO PEOPLE ONLINE WITH YOUR HAND UP, IS THAT ON THIS ITEM? PROBABLY PUBLIC COMMENT. WE

[W. Accept for record purposes, the executed lease agreements for FY 2024-2025 at the Nueces County Airport: 1. Hangar M-4 - Mark Thomas 2. Hangar M-5 - Jim Albert 3. Hangar T-1 - Donald Bayne Horne 4. Hangar T-2 - Jay Hale 5. Hangar T-3 - Mark Thomas 6. Hangar T-4 - Jerry Hunsaker 7. Hangar T-5 - Robert Whitlock 8. Hangar T-6 - Jerry W. Lunceford 9. Hangar T-7 - David Rasmussen 10. Hangar T-8 - Andrew Kirkpatrick 11. Hangar T-9 - Wayne Hunter 12. Hangar T-10 - Donald Bayne Horne 13. Hangar T-12 - Leo Mendez 14. Hangar T-13 - Mark Rock 15. Hangar T-14 - Mark Harrison 16. Hangar T-15 Thomas Perrigue 17. Hangar T-16 - T-17 - Guillermo A. Pliego 18. Hangar T-18 - Tim Bowen 19. Hangar T-19 - Josh Hopkins 20. Hangar T-20 - John Reed 21. Scoggins Hangar - a. John W. Cox b. Jim Lankford c. John Fullerton d. Kent Peckenpaugh]

>> I WANTED TO CLARIFICATION. I THINK I HAVE REPEATEDLY ASKED.

THE FINGERS AND WE ALWAYS PUT THE AMOUNTS AND WE HAVE ALL OF THEM HERE, BUT THERE'S NO AMOUNT. SO WE HAVE POSTED THAT SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY. WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING AND HOW MUCH SO, I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING .

>> IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP? ON ANY OF THESE? I

DON'T SEE IT. >> THE ANGER LEASE AGREEMENTS , BUT IT'S NOT ITEMIZED TO SHOW THE INDIVIDUAL AMOUNTS.

>> WE HAVE ASKED. I KNOW YOU HAVE ASKED BEFORE.

>> DO YOU WANT TO TABLE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING OR ASK THEM TO BRING IT BACK? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? MOVING ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. I BELIEVE.

[15. Discuss and consider distributing the available unallocated ARPA Pct 2 balance of $59,495.52 and un-allocating $195,437.94 from Belk Lane Drainage Improvements Pct 2 project for a total of $254,933.46 to Calderon Outreach Medical Wellness Center and Grants Works Consulting, and all related matters. 1. $227,433.46 - Public Health-Negative Economic Impact: Public Sector Staff Positions (Personnel for the Calderon Outreach Medical Wellness Center, Director and Community Wellness Program Coordinator) 2. $27,500.00 - Administrative Expenses: Grantworks Consulting]

>> I WANT TO TABLE 3 A 15. THERE ARE A COUPLE MORE ON HERE, NOVEMBER 2, THANK YOU. 13, 15 WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?

>> TABLE INTO THE NEXT MEETING NOVEMBER 13. 13TH, ITEM UNTIL

THEY NOVEMBER 13 MEETING. >> ITEM 15.

>> THAT'S WHAT I SAID. I THOUGHT YOU JUST SAID NO, 13.

>> YES, OKAY ITEM 15. I WILL ASK, HAVE ANOTHER TABLE.

>> DID WE VOTE ON THAT? NOVEMBER 13 IS THE NEXT MEETING. WANTS TO TABLE ITEM 15 UNTIL NOVEMBER 13.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY POST, SAME SIGN. I WOULD

[16. Discuss and consider unallocating ARPA funds from London Drainage Project in an amount to be determined by the final tabulation of monies needed based on the bid being proposed for the project. Once unallocated to discuss and consider re-allocating to another Precinct 4 properly vetted and qualified ARPA project. ]

>> I ACCEPT THE MOTION TO TABLE AND SECOND UNTIL NOVEMBER 13.

THAT IS NUMBER 16. >> MOTION AND SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE . IT DID NOT HAVE THE STUFF. THERE WAS

ANOTHER . >> I WANTED TO TABLE ONE OTHER, I DON'T HAVE BACKUP ON ITEM NUMBER SIX WHICH IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER POLICY PLACED ON THE POLICY WITHOUT BACKUP PROVIDED IN HERE AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THAT

ITEM UNTIL NOVEMBER 13. >> SECOND THAT MOTION. ITEM NUMBER SIX ON THE GAME ROOM POLICY.

>> IT WAS GOING TO BE A SIMPLE MOTION. STILL NEED BACKUP?

>> EVERYTHING HAS TO. >> MY APOLOGIES.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. I HAD TWO

FROM THE AUDITOR. >> FOR A FORMALITY, CAN WE REOPEN PUBLIC COMMENT? JUST SAYING CAN WE LET THEM HAVE

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>> ANY OTHER ITEMS WE'RE GOING TO TABLE?

[1. Receive the Monthly Financial Report for Fiscal Year 2023-2024 for the eleven months ending August 31, 2024.]

[2. Authorize the renewal of Texas DIR contract DR-TSO-4227 with Vertosoft for OpenGov Software for the amount of $56,064.45 from the Audior's Office (12500) budgeted funds.]

>> I HAVE MORE I NEED TO TABLE. LET'S FINISH TABLING AND WE WILL OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT. ITEM D 1 AND 2. THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE HAS ASKED ME TO TABLE UNTIL NOVEMBER 13 . D 1 THEY WANT TO CLARIFY THINGS ON THE REPORT AND GET A FRESH REPORT.

I WOULD MAKE MOTION TO TABLE. MOTION AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AND THEN D 2 I BELIEVE THIS STATES THREE-YEAR CONTRACT TO GO BACK TO CHANGE THIS TO ONE YEAR , I UNDERSTAND THEY WANT TO BRING IT BACK NOVEMBER 13. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN DO THEM BOTH TOGETHER. MAKE THE MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY MADE THAT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OTHER TABLE ITEMS?

>> JUDGE, NUMBER NINE. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF WE HAVE TO DO

THAT TODAY. >> I DID NOT PLAN, I WANTED TO DISCUSS WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD BE AND SHOW THE NAMES BUT I WAS GOING TO BRING IT BACK BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS SOME

THINGS AND LOOK AT IT. >> SURE.

>> WE ARE NOT GOING TO VOTE ON THAT IF ANYONE IS HERE WAITING.

WE CAN DO IT ON NOVEMBER 13, NOVEMBER 29, REQUIRED BECAUSE OF THE SIZE WE HAVE DEVOTE TWO MEETINGS AFTERWARD AND WE ARE

OKAY DOING IT ON THE 13TH. >> THAT IN A PROCESS WHERE WE HAVE TO ALLOCATE ALL OF THEM. OKAY.

>> I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY TO DO THAT BUT WE CAN DISCUSS

THE PROCESS MOVING FORWARD. >> ANOTHER WONDERFUL

LEGISLATIVE CHANGE. >> SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER TABLE ITEMS WE WANT TO DO? BEING NONE, IF YOU ARE HERE AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO RESUBMIT OR SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE YOUR ITEM GOT TABLED YOU ARE WELCOME TO SPEAK THREE MINUTES. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND I WILL KEEP A LIST AND GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, WE CANNOT

RESPOND. >> GOOD MORNING HON. JUDGE SCOTT. ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU. COMMISSIONERS, FOR THOSE RUNNING FOR OFFICE, THEY ALWAYS SAY WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK AND I WISH YOU CONTINUE TO WORK HARD ON YOUR CAMPAIGNS SO YOU COME BACK AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY. ROLANDO GARZA , HIGHWAY VILLAGE. I KNOW THE GAME ROOM ISSUE HAS BEEN, IT'S BECOME A LITTLE CONTROVERSIAL AND CONVOLUTED WITH SOME OF THE REGULATIONS , WHEN YOU DID YOUR POLICY HERE, REGULATING GAME ROOMS. I TALKED TO SOME OF MY FRIENDS, FORMER RETIRED TROOPERS AND INVESTIGATORS FOR DPS. A LOT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT IN BEAR COUNTY AND THEY DO SECURITY FOR GAME ROOMS IN SAN ANTONIO. SO I ASKED FOR A COMPARISON WITH WHAT'S GOING ON HERE COMPARED TO SAN ANTONIO AND THERE'S A LOT OF LOGISTICAL THINGS THAT THEY WORK ON IN SAN ANTONIO. I KNOW IN MY YEARS OF ADVOCACY, 34 YEARS OF ADVOCACY NORMALLY WE PULL A TEMPLATE FROM OTHER CITIES WERE THINGS ARE WORKING.

MAYBE TO BUILD AN ARENA FOR THE BUILD A FACILITY OR IMPLEMENT POLICY OR A LAW OR ORDINANCE. WE TOOK OTHER POLICIES FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES SUCH AS BEAR COUNTY AND THE GAME ROOM AND I KNOW YOU ARE PRETTY SMART CATS UP THERE. I TALKED TO MY FRIENDS IN THE SEWER DOING SECURITY, RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT. I SAID YOU HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS? HE SAID FOR THE MOST PART THEY RUN PRETTY SMOOTH. I GIVE THEM CREDIT BECAUSE THESE GUYS SERVE 35 OR 40 YEARS AT LAW ENFORCEMENT STATE AND LOCAL LEVEL. I SAID WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? WHY DO HAVE SOME PROBLEMS IN CORPUS CHRISTI THAT HE SAID IT'S THE WAY THEY DESIGNED THE POLICIES REGULATING GAME ROOMS AND IT DOES NOT MEAN WHEN YOU GO BACK AND DISCUSS AND ALTER OR MODIFY THE POLICY, IT IS NOT MEAN LAW ENFORCEMENT DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO IN AND CONTINUE TO ENFORCE THE LAW AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE RUN RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING IN SAN

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>> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE GAME ROOMS.

>> NAME AND ADDRESS. >> AGREE WITH MR. ROLANDO GARZA. WE ARE NOT ASKING THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT NOT GO REGULATE THE DEAL, OUR DEAL IS THE WAY THE PERMITS ARE ISSUED. WHY IS THERE REDUNDANCY WHEN YOU HAVE CITY CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY AND YOU NEED ANOTHER ONE FROM THE COUNTY. YOU KNOW, THEY ARE TOO STRICT, THE COUNTY IS TOO STRICT. THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE A LEGAL GAME ROOMS BECAUSE THEY CANNOT GET A GAME ROOM PERMIT UNTIL THEY DECIDE TO GO ON TO APPLY. AND I ASK THAT YOU REVISIT AND ESTABLISH SOME TYPE OF LEGAL WAY OF GETTING THE OWNERS A PERMIT TO OPERATE.

THEY ARE NOT ILLEGAL, THE GAME ROOMS ARE NOT ILLEGAL. GAMBLING IS, BUT NOT A GAMER LIKE MR. ROLANDO SAID. IF LAW ENFORCEMENT THINK THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG, GO AFTER THEM, NOBODY IS TELLING YOU NOT TO GET LAW ENFORCEMENT INVOLVED, WE NEED THAT, BUT THE WAY THAT THE PROCEDURES YOU IMPLEMENT ON A PERMIT TO A GAME ROOM OWNER IS RIDICULOUS. 1500 LINEAR FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL AREA. THAT IS FIVE TIMES MORE THAN WHEN YOU SELL LIQUOR FROM A BAR OR FROM A STRIP JOINT.

THERE IS NO WAY THAT SOME GAME ROOM OWNER CAN OPERATE WITH THOSE STRINGENT RULES. LIKE MR. ROLANDO KARZAI SAYS, WHY IS IT YOU WILL NEED TO REVISIT, GET A CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD , LIKE THE CITY HAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION. YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEM TO GET A PERMIT. WHY CAN'T WE ESTABLISH, WHY CAN'T THE COUNTY ESTABLISH SOMETHING LIKE THAT? TO GIVE US A CHANCE, FOR OWNERS TO OPERATE. AGAIN AND, I'M NOT SURE, BUT I HAVE HEARD POTENTIAL LAWSUITS GOING AFTER THE COUNTY FOR DOING THOSE STRINGENT RULES TO THE GAME ROOM OWNERS. YOU ARE TARGETING THE GAME ROOMS . TARGETING IS ILLEGAL AS YOU ALL KNOW. WE CANNOT DO THAT SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU WILL REVISIT THIS ORDINANCE AND MAKE IT A LOT SIMPLER TO GET A PERMIT TO THE GAME ROOM OWNERS SO THEY WON'T HAVE TO OPERATE ILLEGALLY. THANK YOU.

>> CAN YOU UNMUTE YOUR MICROPHONE , MR.

YOU. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT.

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DOES IT INDICATE ANY SAFE , SAFETY MEASURES TO BE TAKEN TO PREVENT IMPACTING BY FLOOD, THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES WHEN THE DUNES ARE IMPACTED OR REMOVED. DOES NOT INDICATE THE WAY THAT THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE MEDICATION WILL PREVENT FLOODING OVER THE LOCKS OR THE WETLANDS OR THE PONDS ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION. IT DOES NOT INDICATE PREVENTION OR CONTROL OF WINDBORNE TRANSPORTATION OF SAND DUE TO THE CONSTRUCTION OR ANY KIND OF MITIGATION MEASURES. IT IS NOT INDICATE ANY KIND OF PREVENTION OR CONTROL OF WATERBORNE EROSION OR SCOUR OF THE DUNES SAND. AND THOSE RESULTING IMPACTS TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, THE ADJACENT LOTS. IT IS NOT INDICATE HOW IT WILL PREVENT CONTROL OF WATERBORNE SANITATION OF SAND DUE TO THE REMOVAL OF THE DUNES FOR MITIGATION OF THE DUNES. ONE OTHER ITEM IT DOES NOT INDICATE BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE SUFFICIENT INFORMATION. NO PLANS OR DESIGN INDICATIONS OF WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. IT DOES NOT SHOW HOW THE DOING PERMIT OR MITIGATION IS GOING TO ENSURE THAT THE GROUND BEARING SOIL CAPACITY OF THE ADJACENT LOTS ARE NOT DIMINISHED OR EMASCULATED OR UNDERMINED DUE TO THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OR REMOVAL OF THESE MASSIVE 20 FOOT DUNES ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. AND OF COURSE THAT REMOVAL WOULD INDICATE SOME SORT OF EXCAVATION OR FURTHER MOVING OPERATIONS THAT CREATE TREMENDOUS VIBRATION , THAT WOULD RUN THE POSSIBILITY OF IMPACTING FOUNDATIONS AND STRUCTURES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION. FOR

THESE REASONS I LAID OUT. >> YOU HAVE RUN OUT OF TIME.

>> THE DOING PERMIT SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED. THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT? OH, I'M SORRY. YOUR HAND WAS UP EARLY THEN IT WENT DOWN, YOU

CAN GO. YES. >> YES, YOUR HONOR, THANK YOU.

THERE IS ONE POINT, SORRY 109 MUSTANG ISLAND ESTATES, CORPUS CHRISTI , TEXAS AND I AM CLEAR PROMOTE WAS MENTIONED IN THE LAST MEETING IS THAT THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE ROAD RIGHT NOW IS NOT THERE SINCE THE 1970S. I WAS ABLE TO CONFIRM THIS WITH JEFFREY EDMONDS, DIR. OF ENGINEERING. WHEN ACQUIRED IN THE 1970S IT HAD A ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WAS 900 FEET SOUTH OF THE CURRENT PROPOSED LOCATION. IN 1920 OR 2021 THERE WAS A PROPOSAL TO SHIFT THE ALIGNMENT AS THE VERBIAGE HAS BEEN USED. THE VERBIAGE SHIFT THAT THE ALIGNMENT IMPLIES IS MINOR TWEAKING. THIS IS NOT MINOR, THIS IS A MOVEMENT OF THE ROAD NORTH, 900 FEET. MOVING IT FROM A LOCATION WHERE THE DUNES THAT WOULD'VE BEEN DISTURBED WERE 6 TO 9 FEET , NOW A LOCATION WHERE THEY ARE 20 FEET. SO IT'S NOT JUST A SHIFT IN ALIGNMENT AS A MISNOMER IN MY VIEW , MAYBE IT'S A TERM OF INDUSTRY. BUT TO ME, THIS IS NOT A SHIFT, THIS IS MOVEMENT OF THE ROAD. SO, FINE. NOBODY IS OPPOSING THE BUILDING OF THE

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THERE IS NO PROVISION IN HERE THAT ADDRESSES WHEN YOU ELEVATE A ROAD, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE PLANNING TO PUT THE ROAD UP HIGHER 12 FEET. NOW NOT ONLY ARE YOU REMOVING THE BUFFER OF THE 20 FOOT DUNES AND TRYING TO REBUILD, YOU ARE REMOVING, CREATING A DRAINAGE PROBLEM INTO THE , THE NORTH AND SOUTH BOUND BOUNDARIES, NOT JUST FROM THE EAST WHERE THE WAVES WERE COMING. SO NOW EVERY TIME IT RAINS WE HAVE A POOLING OF WATER COMING UP THE ROAD INTO THE LOTS. THERE IS NOTHING IN THE DOING PERMIT THAT ADDRESSES HOW THEY ARE GOING TO MOVE THAT. IF YOU DON'T ADDRESS THE SPECIFICS OF HOW YOU'RE GOING TO REMEDIATE THOSE PROBLEMS, AND THERE'S NO WAY TO ENFORCE IT BECAUSE HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SAY THAT IT REQUIRES SOMEBODY TO SUE BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE DONE THIS CONSTRUCTION, FLOODING THE LOTS FROM MY LOTS GET FLOODED.

>> YOUR TIME HAS RUN OUT, SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOUR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK OR ONLINE THAT I MISSED EARLIER? IF NOT WE WILL MOVE FORWARD ON

[1. Discuss and consider authorizing approval of Escrow Amendment Conditions Letter Agreement between Nueces County Hospital District and CHRISTUS Spohn Health System, including related amendments to the Membership and Lease Agreements between the parties and all related matters.]

>> GOOD MORNING, IT IS A BEAUTIFUL DAY OUT THERE. THE FRONT FELT GOOD, I HOPE IT'S A SIGNAL OF BETTER WEATHER TO COME. COMMISSIONERS, HOSPITAL DISTRICT IS BRINGING AN AMENDMENT TODAY TO AGREEMENTS WITH SPOT. THE COUNTY IS A SIGNATORY TO THE AGREEMENTS WE HAVE WITH THEM. WE DON'T AMEND OFTEN BUT WE DO HAVE ONE HERE TODAY. WITH ME I ALSO HAVE ADAM ROBISON OUTSIDE COUNCIL FROM KING AND SPALDING AND HE IS HERE TO ANSWER LEGAL QUESTIONS. SO COMMISSIONERS, ESSENTIALLY THIS ESCROW AMENDMENT SETS FOUR CONDITIONS FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO DISTRIBUTE THE REMAINING PART OF THE ESCROW FUNDS. YOU MAY RECALL OR YOU MAY NOT AS YOU ARE NOT HERE TO JUDGE, BUT BACK IN 2015 WHEN THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AGREED TO A SERIES OF THINGS AMONG THEM WAS MOVING THE RESIDENCY PROGRAMS FROM MEMORIAL TO SHORELINE. SEVERAL OTHER THINGS WERE INCLUDED IN THE DEMOLITION OF MEMORIAL. TO ENSURE THOSE THINGS OCCURRED, THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT REQUIRED SPOHN TO PUT MONEY IN ESCROW AND EACH TIME THEY CHECKED OFF ONE OF THOSE THINGS ON THE LIST. THEY WERE APPROVED FOR DISBURSEMENT FROM THE ESCROW ACCOUNT. SO THE ESCROW ACCOUNT HAS WORKED TO ASSURE THAT THE THINGS WE AGREED TO ARE HAPPENING. DOWN TO THE LAST ITEM AND THE LAST ITEM HAD TO DO WITH IN PART DEMOLITION OF MEMORIAL AND ALSO THE IMPOSITION OF A GREEN SPACE ON THE MEMORIAL SITE. AND SO, IN TERMS OF WORKING TOWARD THE LAST CONDITION AND AUTHORIZING ESCROW, THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT APPROACHED SPOHN ABOUT SOME CONDITIONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IN ADDITION TO THE AGREEMENT THAT ADDRESSED HOW THE MONEY WOULD BE DISPERSED. SO THE FOUR THINGS ACTUALLY WE APPROACHED WITH MANY THINGS, BUT THE FOUR THINGS WE SETTLED ON ARE ADDRESSED IN THE LETTER IN YOUR PACKET AND THEY ARE ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR STARTING ON THE FIRST PAGE AND ENDING ON THE SECOND. IN SHORT, THESE FOUR ITEMS, THE FIRST ALLOWS THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO HAVE ITS PROPERTIES BACK WHILE THE LEASE IS GOING ON. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THE HOSPITAL

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>> I HAVE LEGAL QUESTIONS ON THIS. I LIKE TO TAKE TWO

EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> OH, EXECUTIVE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE HAS THAT YOU WANT TO BRING NOW? ARE THEY AWARE OF THIS AND HOW THEY AGREE TO THIS RIGHT NOW?

>> YES MA'AM THEY HAVE. AS SOON AS WE GET THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS WE WILL GET THE SIGNATURES AND STUFF BUT

THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT YES. >> I WILL PULL THIS INTO EXECUTIVE AND WE WILL BRING IT BACK AFTERWARD FOR COMMISSIONER

CHESNEY'S QUESTIONS. >> YOU NEED OUR COUNCIL IN

THAT? >> I DON'T THINK HE CAN BE IN

THERE. >> WE ARE GOOD.

>> QUESTION. ON THIS ISSUE SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT WHERE MONIES CAN BE DISTRIBUTED RIGHT? TELLING YOU WHERE TO PUT THE MONEY ONLY TO THE PROPERTIES THEY HAVE , ASKING IF WE CAN RECOVER THOSE PROPERTIES BACK BUT CANNOT USE IT FOR OTHER MEDICAL FACILITIES THAT WOULD COMPETE AGAINST ?

>> FIRST OF ALL ON THE MONEY QUESTION, THE ONLY MONIES IN QUESTION ARE DISBURSEMENT OF THE FINAL ESCROW PAYMENT AND SO, THESE CONDITIONS WE HAVE PUT OUT BEFORE THAT. IF THE CONDITIONS ARE SATISFIED AND THE COURT DEGREES WE WILL DO THE DISBURSEMENT. SO AS FAR AS SERVICES FOR THE PROPERTY. FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT THE MEMORIAL PROPERTY AS A COVENANT ON IT THAT WAS INSTILLED BY THE BAPTIST FOUNDATION THAT SAYS IT CAN ONLY USE , ORIGINALLY FOR HOSPITAL PURPOSES THEN WE AMENDED TO BE FOR HEALTHCARE. SO THE RESTRICTIONS THAT SPOHN WANTS TO PUT ON THE PROPERTY WOULD LIMIT THE KINDS OF FACILITIES THAT ARE PUT ON SO THEY WOULD BE THINGS THAT WOULD NOT COMPETE WITH THEM. SO THERE WOULD NOT BE CLINIC OR AMATORY SURGERY CENTER. THERE WERE NOT BE ANOTHER HOSPITAL. BUT, THERE ARE THINGS ON THERE, IT CAN BE AN LIKE THERE IS WITH AMISTAD

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>> RIGHT NOW THEY ARE ASKING FOR THE BALANCE OF THE ESCROW?

>> YES. THEY ARE ENTITLED TO PAYMENT OF THE LAST ESCROW PAYMENT, CONDITION TO BOND THESE FOUR THINGS IN THE

LETTER. >> TO KNOW HOW MUCH?

>> AROUND 3 MILLION. >> THAT'S THEIR MONEY THEY PUT IN ESCROW. YOU HAVE A LEGAL QUESTION? I DON'T MIND MOVING

FORWARD. >> I DID NOT MIND MOVING FORWARD, BUT HE HAS A LEGAL QUESTION SO WE WILL TAKEN INTO

EXECUTIVE. >> OKAY.

[11. Discuss and consider approval of the large-scale request and exemption request for dune protection permit for construction of a new beach access road seaward of the 350’ dune protection line (DPP-20231209). ]

>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO BRING UP ITEM 3 3A 11 AND 12, IF WE COULD. I THINK 11 IS THE ONE YOU ARE ASKING FOR? DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL LARGE-SCALE REQUEST AN EXEMPTION REQUEST PROTECTION PERMIT CONSTRUCTION OF BEACH ACCESS ROAD OF THE 350 FOOT DUNE PROTECTION LINE. I THINK THE CITY IS HERE, THAT'S WHY. WE DON'T WANT TO KEEP THEM SITTING HERE WAITING. SO YES ITEM 3 SO YES ITEM 3A 11.

>> GOOD MORNING THIS ITEM IS REQUEST FOR DUNE PROTECTION PERMIT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF NEW BEACH ACCESS OF THE DUNE PROTECTION LINE. THIS ITEM WAS PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED OCTOBER 2 AND WAS TABLED TO MEET WITH RESIDENTS IN THE CITY HAS MADE SEVERAL EFFORTS TO MEET THE RESIDENTS WITH NO LUCK. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'M HERE TO ANSWER.

>> IF YOU COULD ADDRESS AND CHRISTINE ARE YOU HERE? IF YOU CAN ADDRESS, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ADMINISTERED WE NEEDED FOR THE DUNE PERMIT TO BE APPROVED OR IS IT ALL IN ADMINISTERED OF ORDER AND READY TO MOVE FORWARD?

>> YES IT IS IN ADMINISTERED OF ORDER. WE TABLED LAST TIME BY REQUESTING OF THE ADJACENT LANDOWNERS MORE TIME TO REVIEW THE INFORMATION. NOT BECAUSE IT WAS INCOMPLETE, SO THEY WERE GIVEN ADDITIONAL TIME AND THEY COMMENTED AGAIN.

>> PULL THE MICROPHONE UP A LITTLE BIT. SO THE DUNE PERMIT IS ADMINISTERED OF THE CORRECT. ALL THE THINGS DONE, WHAT WE DO TO ISSUE IS DONE. THEY DON'T LIKE WHERE THE ROAD IS, THAT'S A FIGHT WITH THEM AND THE CITY? THEY CAN DO THAT LATER IF THEY ARE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE DRAINAGE PLAN SO THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHY, WHEN WE DO A DUNE PERMIT, EXPLAINED THAT A LITTLE BIT. SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS WERE VALID, BUT NOT PERTINENT TO THIS PROCESS.

>> SO THE PROJECT DID GO AND THEY REVIEWED, HAD COMMENTS, THE APPLICANT REVISED AND THE ENGINEER REVISED THE APPLICATION AND BROUGHT IT BACK. IT WAS REVIEWED AND ONLY NEEDED MINOR QUESTIONS AND THE REQUESTED IT TO BE SENT TO THE CHAIR FOR FINAL REVIEW AFTER MINOR CORRECTIONS WERE DONE. HE REVIEWED THE THIRD ITERATION AND HE GAVE IT THE OKAY. WE SENT , HIS MEMO WAS SENT TO THE JUDGE FOR REVIEW AND SHE SENT HER YOU TO THE GL OVERTOOK THEIR TIME COMMENTING AND HAD SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE APPROVAL LETTER FROM THE COUNTY. AFTER WE GOT THE LETTER BACK WE HAD THE ALLOTTED TIME THE LAND OWNER NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT.

THAT'S ALL IN THE ADMINISTERED OF RECORD.

>> SO, SOME OF THE THINGS THE PEOPLE EARLIER WERE COMMENTING ON WOULD BE MORE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY LATER DOWN THE ROAD. WE DON'T DEAL AT THE DUNE PERMIT LEVEL WITH ALL, BUT ANY THINGS HE DISCUSSED EARLIER.

>> YES AND I PROVIDED SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE SOME OF THAT SHE SHOULD TALK TO THE CITY ABOUT , THE EROSION AND STORM WATER FLOW AND HOW THE WATER BE TRANSFERRED, ESPECIALLY INTO IMPACTS IF IT INCREASES THE AMOUNT OF WATER IN THE DITCH. THAT IS THE TXDOT JURISDICTION AND THEY WOULD

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LOT OF THESE ISSUES. >> RIGHT, SO AGAIN, THE ISSUES THAT THE GENTLEMAN BROUGHT UP, MAYBE VALID THEY ARE NOT APPLICABLE FOR THE DUNE PERMIT PROCESS WE ARE IN CURRENTLY. WE HAVE TRIED TO EXPLAIN THAT TO THEM IN EMAILS AND I KNOW THE CITY MET WITH THEM SO I WANT TO REITERATE ALL THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RELAYED EARLIER ARE ONES HE NEEDS TO TAKE TO THE CITY, THAT IS NOT, WE DON'T DO THAT AT THE DUNE PERMITTING. WE HAVE LIMITED ABILITY AND PROCESS OF WHICH WE HAVE FOLLOWED AND IT IS VERY DETAILED, IT GOES TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE, THEY MAKE COMMENT AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE PREFER. THE JUDGE IS INVOLVED. EVERYTHING THAT IS PUT INTO COMMENTS IS PART OF

THE PERMIT. >> CORRECT. YES. IT IS PER THE DUNE PERMIT , THE QUESTIONS ASKED ARE BEYOND THE SCOPE OF

THE PERMIT. >> THE COUNTY HAS DONE ITS JOB.

THE PERMIT HAS HAD ALL EYES DARTED AND T'S CROSSED. THE AREAS OF CONCERN ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO A DUNE PERMIT, THAT'S WE HAVE TO GO FIGHT WITH THE CITY ON THE DRAINAGE AND ALL THE ISSUES THAT ARE VERY VALID THAT HE BRINGS UP, BUT WE HAVE NO ABILITY TO REGULATE ANY OF THAT AT THE DUNE PERMITTING PROCESS. JUST MAKING SURE EVERYBODY IS CLEAR.

WE HAVE SAID IT REPEATEDLY AND I GET THEY DON'T LIKE SOME OF THE THINGS IN THE LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIGHT IT AT THE CITY BUT IT'S NOT AT THE COUNTY THE DUNE PERMIT PROCESS FOLLOWED AND WE GIVE THEM TWO MORE WEEKS TO GO LOOK AT THIS TO MAKE SURE THE PERMIT WAS ACCURATE AND NOTHING HAS BEEN PRESENTED SING THE PERMIT IS NOT ACCURATE OR WE DO NOT FOLLOW THOSE PROCEDURES. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THIS PERMIT AND LET THEM GO FIGHT WITH THE CITY WHERE IT'S THE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO FIGHT.

>> I WILL SECOND THE MOTION, BUT YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP, YOU HAVE A QUESTION YOU NEED TO ASK?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING. I DID TRY MULTIPLE TIMES TO HAVE A CONVERSATION SO I COULD CLARIFY SOME OF THE ISSUES. I ALSO EXPLAINED THE TWO WEEKS WE WERE GIVEN WAS EXTREMELY LIMITED. I APPRECIATE IT, BUT UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES I WAS FACING, IT EXTREMELY LIMITED MY ABILITY TO DO MUCH WITH THIS. I THINK A PHONE CALL WOULD BE HELPFUL WHEN IT CLEARS UP THINGS LIKE THIS PROCEDURE WILL BE ADDRESSED IN A FUTURE MEETING. I HAVE QUESTIONS IN MY MIND. WILL I BE NOTIFIED? WHO AM I MEETING WITH TO DISCUSS CONCERNS WE HAVE ABOUT THE ACTUAL LOCATION AND HE SAYS IT'S NOT PART OF THE PERMIT, BUT TO ME THE PERMIT IS PART OF THE PLAN. IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE AND A PHONE CALL COULD'VE CLEARED IT UP AND THAT IS THE CASE WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS WITH SOMEBODY THEN WHO IS IT AND WILL I BE GIVEN NOTICE? A PHONE CALL COULD BE

BETTER THAN EMAIL. >> I DISAGREE BECAUSE I PUT THINGS IN EMAILS BECAUSE THERE IS HE SAID SHE SAID. I CLEARLY SENT AT LEAST THREE EMAILS EXPLAIN THE PROCESS TO YOU VERY CLEARLY. I PUT YOU IN CONTACT WITH THE PEOPLE AT THE CITY.

YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO HEAR WHAT I HAVE HAD TO TELL YOU WHICH IS IT'S THE CITY'S FIGHT. HOLD ON, I LET YOU SPEAK SO LET ME FINISH AND YOU CAN REBUT ME. I HAVE SENT YOU EMAIL AFTER EMAIL GUARDING EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS, A DUNE PERMIT.

DON'T HAVE JURISDICTION TO DO THE THINGS YOU WANT TO FIGHT OVER. I HAVE SAID AND I WILL SHOW YOU THE EMAILS AGAIN. I PUT YOU IN CONTACT WITH THE PEOPLE. YOU KNOW WHO TO CONTACT AT THE CITY BECAUSE I PUT YOU IN CONTACT WITH THOSE FOLKS, I CONNECTED YOU WITH JEFF EDMONDS AND SORRY I CAN'T SAY THE LADY'S NAME HERE TODAY. I APOLOGIZE. SO TO SAY THAT HE HAD NOT BEEN INFORMED IS INACCURATE. MA'AM LET ME FINISH AND THEN YOU CAN TALK. I DID NOT INTERRUPT YOU. PLEASE LET ME FINISH BECAUSE I AM VERY FRUSTRATED WITH YOU AND THIS PROCESS BECAUSE I BELIEVE THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO STALL SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO STALL BECAUSE WE HAD ON OUR PART, THE PART YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT AND HER HUSBAND MADE VALID POINTS NEED TO BE MADE TO THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. THE LADY IS HERE, THEY KNOW TO NOTIFY YOU. THE CITY IS HERE,

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DISCUSSED? >> NEXT STEPS ARE TO GET THE UTP AMENDMENT ON IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE MONTHS. I WILL REACH OUT AND MAKE SURE SHE UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

>> WILL YOU COPY ME SO I DON'T HEAR FROM SOMEONE THEY DID NOT GET NOTICED? I WANT TO KNOW THEY HAVE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO FIGHT WHAT ME BE VALID CONCERNS THAT ARE NOT THE PLACE TO FIGHT A NUECES COUNTY. THEY ARE THE FIGHT AT CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. THEY MAY HAVE THE MOST VALID POINTS IN THE WORLD AND I HOPE YOU WILL TAKE THEM SAFELY, BUT I WILL SAY AGAIN FOR THE SIXTH TIME, THOSE ARE NOT CONCERNS THAT NUECES COUNTY CAN DO. WE HAVE DONE WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. KNOW IT'S UP TO THE CITY AND I HOPE YOU TAKE THEIR CONCERNS SERIOUSLY. THE DRAINAGE AND IMPACT ON THE DUNES AND THE DRAINAGE AND ALL THE THINGS THEY TALK ABOUT ME BE VERY VALID. PLEASE COPY ME WHEN YOU SET UP SOMETHING WITH THEM SO I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE WE HAVE GIVEN THESE PEOPLE EVERY COURTESY WE CAN.

WE DELAYED BEFORE WHEN IT WAS RIGHT THE FIRST TIME, BUT WE DELAYED FOR TWO MORE WEEKS AND THEY WANTED ANOTHER MONTH AND I SAID NO WE ARE NOT DEALING ANOTHER MONTH BECAUSE THERE'S NO REASON. GO FIGHT AT THE CITY . SO GIVE ME YOUR WORD. MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE REACHED OUT TO AND NOTIFIED SO THEY CAN COME FIGHT. GIVE THEM LIKE TWO OR THREE WEEKS. WHATEVER THEY NEED BECAUSE GIVE THEM ALL THE NOTICE THEY NEED THANK YOU.

>> YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, WE COMMUTED YOU BUT IT IS CLEAR WE ARE INSTRUCTING THEM AND WE APPRECIATE THE COMMUNICATION AND THEY HAVE MADE IT CLEAR THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE NOTIFIED WHEN YOU CAN TAKE IT

UP WITH THE CITY. >> YES AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSIONER FOR MAKING THAT CLEAR. I WOULD SAY THE PROBLEM IS, COMMUNICATION AND EMAIL IS LIMITED. HE DID SAY THIS IS THE DUNE PERMIT. IT WAS NOT CLEAR WHAT WAS PART OF IT AND I ASKED TO BE CALLED OR LEFT A VOICE MESSAGE, THAT WAS THE DISCONNECT. I WANTED A PHONE CALL BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU THINK YOU ARE COMMITTED GETTING CLEARLY AND I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS. NONETHELESS I APPRECIATE THE INSTRUCTIONS TO MAKE SURE THEY CONTACT US TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS. THANK

YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO PASS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE AND HE OPPOSED? THE MOTION

[12. Discuss and consider approval of the Large-Scale Dune Protection Permit Required for proposed single-family home at 113 Bikini Drive, Port Aransas – DPP-20240308. The address of the project is 113 Bikini Drive, Port Aransas, Texas 78373 and the legal description of the lot is: LA CONCHA ESTATES UNIT 2 LT 78 BLK 1 (16,489 square feet; 0.3785 acres).]

CAN GET SOME OTHER WORK DONE. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. 113 BIKINI IS A LARGE-SCALE APPLICATION. THEY ARE IMPACTING A CRITICAL DUNE AND COMPENSATING FOR IT ON SITE WITH A ONE-TO-ONE RATIO FOR BOTH THE DUNE VOLUME AND SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE DUNE VEGETATION IMPACTED. THIS WENT THROUGH SEVERAL ITERATIONS AT BMAC, CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED THROUGH YOUR REVIEW AND THERE WERE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM THE GL OH THAT REQUIRED MORE REVISIONS FROM THE APPLICANT. SO THE VERSION OF THE APPLICATION ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA TODAY HAS BEEN REVISED TO ADDRESS ALL THE CONCERNS. NOW IT IS ADMINISTERED OF THE COMPLETE AND BMAC BITE YELLOW STANDARDS.

>> MOTION TO PASS. MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES,

[2. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving execution of Supplemental Agreement No. 1 to the Agreement with McGriff Insurance Services, LLC (“McGriff”) for Employee Benefits and Consulting Services (RFP No. 3257-23; Nueces County Contract No. 20240106-2/21) to: 1) appoint McGriff as broker of record; 2) authorize McGriff to receive broker’s commissions; and 3) approve additional services to be performed by McGriff, and related matters. ]

THANK YOU. >> GOING BACK DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF SUPPLEMENTAL AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE, TO THE AGREEMENT WITH MCGRIFF INSURANCE SERVICES FOR EMPLOYEE BENEFITS AND CONSULTING. WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT MOTIONS, APPOINT MCGRIFF AS BROKER OF RECORD.

AUTHORIZE MCGRIFF TO RECEIVE BROKER COMMISSIONS AND APPROVE ADDITIONAL SERVICES TO BE PERFORMED AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN DOING THESE THINGS SOMEWHAT ON BEHALF OF US. THERE IS NO ONE

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>> I HAVE A QUESTIONS. WHY IN THE WORLD ARE WE GOING BACK TO BROKERS COMMISSIONS? UNLESS I AM FORGETTING SOMETHING, WE WENT AWAY FROM COMMISSIONS BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE THAT WAS SELF-SERVING AND WE WOULD NOT NECESSARILY GET THE BEST TO DEAL.'S WE WENT TO HIRING INSURANCE CONSULTANTS ON A MONTHLY BASIS. I.E. CARLISLE AND USED TO BE DURAND, NOW MCGRIFF. UNLESS I'M MISSING SOMETHING WHY WOULD WE WANT TO GO DOWN A PATH OF REOPENING BROKERAGE COMMISSIONS? I MAYBE

NOT READING THIS RIGHT. >> THEY WERE DOING IT BEFORE WITH SOMEONE ELSE WE DID NOT HAVE A CONTRACT WITH.

>> THIS WAS HAPPENING WITH TIME WHERE THERE WAS A PERSON RECEIVING COMMISSIONS AND

PERFORMING SOME. >> THAT'S NOT LEGAL. WE DID

NOT AUTHORIZE THAT. >> I AM UNABLE TO LOCATE .

>> IT STOPPED IMMEDIATELY WHEN WE QUESTIONED IT.

>> WE NEED TO GO INTO LEGAL , I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THIS ONE. THIS IS A LITTLE MESSY. I HAVE SOME LEGAL QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE. NOT TRYING TO STOP ANYBODY ELSE FROM ASKING OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT I NEED, YEAH. BEFORE ACCUSATIONS START FLYING AROUND. PLEASE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE THAT REPORT? THEN WE WILL MOVE

[3. Discuss and consider approval of lease with Robstown I.S.D. for use of the Old Show Barn (Nueces County Agriculture Center) located at 900 W. Ave. J. in Robstown, Texas and related matters. ]

WHAT WAS EXPIRED? >> YES, THIS ITEM EXPIRED. THE COURT AGREED TO THIS A FEW YEARS BACK AND THERE WAS A CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP AND ROBSTOWN ISD WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT. IN THAT TIME IT WAS AROUND THE TIME WE SHOULD OF HAD THIS BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD AND BEFORE THE COURT. 'S WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING OUT OF GOOD FAITH, BUT IT IS A LIABILITY AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ROBSTOWN ISD WANTS TO TAKE FULL OWNERSHIP CONSIDERING IT IS A LEASE. SO THEY CAN PUT IN MORE INVESTMENT LONG-TERM RATHER THAN HAVE IT PULLED OUT FROM AFTER ONE YEAR OR TWO. THEY WANT TO PUT SIZABLE INVESTMENT INTO IT. WE HAVE PUT FUNDING FROM MY PRECINCT FUNDS TO ADDRESS ROOF ISSUES, TO ADDRESS WINDOW ISSUES THAT ELEMENTS WERE GETTING INTO THE FACILITY IN THE ROBSTOWN AGRICULTURE PROGRAM INITIALLY DID NOT HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO SO THEY WERE THANKFUL, WE MADE ADJUSTMENTS BUT THEY WANT TO DO MORE. SO THIS IS TO SURE IT UP, GET IT OFFICIAL MAKE IT LEGAL.

WE ARE GETTING INTO THE SEASON, THE KIDS ARE PREPARING FOR THE LIVESTOCK SHOW. SO THIS IS ONE WAY WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HELP OUT THE COMMUNITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THERE ONE OF THE MORE ACTIVE DISTRICTS IN OUR COUNTY. THEY JUST DID NOT

HAVE A DEDICATED FACILITY. >> OF SUCH A MOTION I WILL

SECOND. >> THIS IS REALLY COOL. CAN I

ASK WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO? >> THEY HAVE BEEN USING IT FOR

HOUSING ANIMALS BASICALLY. >> WHAT'S THE INVESTMENT?

>> THAT HAVE NOT COME BACK WITH A TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT THEY PUT THE LARGE FANS THE INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT WHEN THEY FIRST CAME BEFORE US MENTIONED INVESTING IN THE LARGE FANS.

CLEANUP, THEY PUT IN SOME ELBOW GREASE. THEY PUT A LOT OF EFFORT FROM THE KIDS AND THE PARENTS TO FIX A FACILITY THAT WE STILL OWNED, BUT WE PUT NO USE OR EFFORT INTO IT TO KEEP

IT CLEAN. >> WHAT WE DID IS WE TURNED IT INTO STORAGE. SO WHEN THEY CAME TO US WE HAD THE EXTERIOR PENS AND INTERIOR AREAS. THEY BEEN PAYING THE BILLS, THE WATER BILLS, THEY UPGRADED A BATHROOM , THEY HAVE DONE SERIOUS WORK TO THE FACILITY, TO HAVE IT AVAILABLE FOR THOSE PROGRAMS. THEY ALSO SUPPORT THE OUTLYING EXISTING 4-H PROGRAMS SO THEY

ALLOW DIFFERENT GROUPS IN. >> WE ARE ALL VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. EXCITED ABOUT THE INITIATIVE. WE HAVE A MOTION

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[4. Discuss and consider approval of renewal contract with Thomson Reuters for Westlaw, County Attorney access; and related matters.]

I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS .

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. AYE -- ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

[5. Discuss and consider approval of the 2024/2025 Amendment to County Attorney's Supplemental Pay Letter Allocation under Dept 1325 in accordance with Section 46.0031 of the Texas Government Code, and all related matters.]

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANNUAL POST? THE MOTION PASSES.

[6. Discuss and consider the Game Room Policy and all related matters.]

[7. Discuss and consider approval of 2025 Deaf and Hard of Hearing Service Agreement, and any related matters.]

>> SECOND, BUT WE HAVE AN AMOUNT?

>> I BELIEVE IT IS 50,000. >> AS NEEDED. ONLY USED IN

EMERGENCY. >> DISTRICT COURTS USE THIS AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. WE MADE SURE TO GET IN LANGUAGE FOR FEMA SO WHEN WE USE IT DURING EMERGENCY WE CAN GET

REIMBURSED. >> WITHOUT THIS LANGUAGE INCLUDED WE DON'T GET REIMBURSED SO WE ADDED

LANGUAGE. >> AS NEEDED BASIS RIGHT? ONE OF THE PRE-POSITION CONTRACTS.

>> YES. >> I HAVE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE MENTION ABOUT THIS. AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR SEGMENTS OF THE COMMUNITY WE DON'T NECESSARILY CONSIDER WHEN IT IS EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND THE JUDGE HAS TO GO OUT PEOPLE TAKE INFORMATION AS THEY GO, BUT HAVE SOMEONE DEDICATED TO DO THAT IS SO IMPORTANT. WE SEE THAT IN OTHER EMERGENCY EVENTS NATIONWIDE AND THEY DO THAT ADEQUATELY, BUT THE FACT THAT WE ARE POSITIONING THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT SO I KNOW THAT WAS MENTIONED DURING THE FIRST RUN FOR THE ONLY RUN, OUR ONLY SCARE SO FAR THIS HURRICANE SEASON. OF COURSE IT CAN HAPPEN ANYTIME. WE NEED A JUDGE AND MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS TO COMMUNITY WITH ALL COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU FOR WORKING ON THIS.

>> I MADE THE MOTION TO ANYONE SECOND?

>> I'M SORRY, JAG DID. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

[8. Discuss and consider issuing a burn ban for all unincorporated areas of Nueces County, and any related matters.]

SOMETHING. >> AS OF THIS MORNING THE AVERAGE IS 499. IT IS UP SIX POINTS FROM FRIDAY. MINIMUM NUMBER HAS BEEN 305 WITH MAXIMUM 677. THOSE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON THE DAILY WATER BALANCE. BASED ON THE PRECIPITATION OF THE SOIL MOISTURE. I HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CHIEF WHO IS MY GO TO IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS FOR FIRE POTENTIAL. HE IS ALSO RECOMMENDING A BURN BAN AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY GETTING DRIER. WHEN THE FALL COMES. THIS IS WHEN IT HAPPENS.

>> CAN WE CONSIDER DOING THIS SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER WHERE THE JUDGE CAN HAVE SOME

DISCRETION ON THIS ONE? >> THAT HAD BEEN MY ARGUMENT TO BEGIN WITH BECAUSE I HAVE AUTHORITY TO DO IT IF WE NEED IT WHENEVER IT COMES UP. YOU HAVE THE ABILITY? YOU HAVE THE

ABILITY. >> I HAVE THE ABILITY TO CALL

ONE. >> SHE CAN RECOMMEND ONE FOR SEVEN DAYS, BUT WITHIN THAT SEVEN DAYS YOU HAVE TO COME RATIFY BEFORE IT CAN BE EXTENDED.

>> WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS YOU ONLY HAVE LIMITED AUTHORITY BASED ON A LIMITED NUMBER OF DAYS. WE SHOULD GIVE YOU MORE

BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE RIGHT. >> WHEN WE DO A BURN BAN TYPICALLY YOU CAN DO UP TO 90 DAYS. I'M DOING THIS FOR 60,

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RESCIND IT AT ANY TIME. >> IF WE DON'T HAVE CORD WITHIN THE TIME BECAUSE YOU HAVE ONE IN NOVEMBER AND ONE IN

DECEMBER. >> YOU DON'T NEED THE COURT TO

RESCIND. >> WHERE'S THE LAW ON THAT?

>> LOOK AT THE PROPOSAL AND THE BURN BAN. COMMISSIONERS COURT OR THE JUDGE HAS THE ABILITY TO RESCIND THE BURN BAN IF CONDITIONS CHANGE WITHIN THAT PERIOD OF TIME. THEN ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS I GO BACK AND TALK WITH TEXAS A&M, TELL THEM WE HAVE RESCINDED , CONTACT MY FIRE PEOPLE UNINCORPORATED AREAS AND LET THEM KNOW AND WE PUT A NOTICE OUT TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THERE IS NO LONGER A BURN BAN.

>> IT IS NOT TO GO TO THE COURT TO CONSENT? IF YOU REMEMBER THE

LAST BURN BAN. >> IT IS IN THE BACKUP?

>> IF YOU READ THE BURN BAN THERE IS A STATUTE WE FOLLOW.

>> I DON'T REGULARLY READ THE BURN BAN LET ME ADMIT. CAN YOU PROVIDE THE BURN BAN SO I CAN SEE IT?

>> I WILL DEFINITELY. >> I WOULD LIKE IT NOW, NO OFFENSE, BUT I LIKE TO READ THINGS.

>> I UNDERSTAND BUT I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.

>> IF WE CAN JUST STOP ON THIS ONE UNTIL YOU READ IT BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE. IF THE LAW SAYS SHE CAN RESCIND IT, THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE WE MAY NEED IT FOR A WEEK OR SIX MONTHS I DON'T KNOW. I WOULD LIKE THE JUDGE TO MAKE SURE.

>> AS SOON AS YOU GET IT BACK I WILL YOU UP.

>> COMES TO A POINT WHERE THEY NEED IT , YOU CAN RATIFY.

>> JUST GO GET IT. IF WE DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF US WE

WON'T KNOW. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING

FOR, GIVE ME THE LAW. >> LET'S GET WHAT THE LAW STATES AND WE WILL FOLLOW THE LETTER OF THE LAW. MOVING ON ITEM 9. WE ARE HOLDING IT UNTIL SHE COMES BACK. I WILL RESEND

[9. Discuss and consider allocation of Vote Entitlement for Nueces County Appraisal District Board of Directors Ballot; discuss and consider adoption of resolution casting votes for the Nueces County Appraisal District Board of Directors, and related matters.]

THE COUNTY HAS 700 VOTES THAT WE CAN VOTE. I WANTED THIS TO BE BROUGHT UP EVEN THOUGH WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO IT I WANTED THIS TO COME BACK TO NOVEMBER BECAUSE WE CAN EITHER DECIDE WE WANT TO DO A VOTE UNANIMOUS TOGETHER TO HELP US GET A PERSON THAT WE ALL APPROVE OF ON THIS BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF VOTES. WE CAN DIVIDE UP TO 140 EACH AND EACH PICK A DIFFERENT PERSON AND MAYBE NONE OF OUR PEOPLE GET IN. IS KIND

OF SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. >> WHO ARE THE ONES WE PUT

FORWARD? >> WE PUT FORWARD .

>>

>> HE WAS MINE BUT HE CAME IN LATE.

>> I MEAN WE ARE NOT DOING IT TODAY JUST ASKING.

>> GABRIELLE, SHIRLEY AND SUSIE SULLIVAN.

>> JUST A QUESTION. SHE IS DONE.

>> JUDGE SORRY. YES IT WAS GABBY , SUSIE SULLIVAN AND WHAT WAS THE THIRD NAME? ONE SHIRLEY.

>> YES, THE LAST THREE, YES THE THREE APPLICATIONS WE RECEIVED WE TURNED IN THOSE APPLICATIONS WE RECEIVED ON TIME. YES. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION TO TABLE TO THE NOVEMBER 13 . I THINK THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO CHOICES. I WANTED YOU TO SEE. IT HAS TO BE DONE ON THE 13 BECAUSE WE ARE AT A DEADLINE TO TURN THESE NAMES IN AND THEN WHEN IT GOES TO THE APPRAISAL BOARD THEY WILL TALLY UP THE VOTES AND THOSE PEOPLE WITH THE MOST VOTES WILL GET THOSE POSITIONS. STARTS JANUARY 1 , THEY WILL BE BEGINNING. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO

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[10. Discuss and consider appointment of election judges and apportionment of election judges for voting centers per commissioner precinct and authorize Presiding Judges to hire the designated number of clerks for Election Day in accordance with Sections 32.002, 32.033, and 32.093 of the Texas Election Code; and related matters.]

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTMENT OF ELECTION JUDGES AND APPORTIONMENT OF CHARGES FOR VOTING CENTERS AND THIS GOES ON PER COMMISSIONER PRECINCT AUTHORIZING PRESIDING JUDGES TO HIRE DESIGNATED NUMBER OF CLERKS FOR ELECTION DAY IN ACCORDING SECTION 30 2002, 30 2003, 3209 THREE. THE PERCENTAGES CALCULATED BY PRECINCT VOTER TURNOUT REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC PARTIES HAVE REVIEWED THIS WHICH WAS SENT TO THEM. I BELIEVE THEY ARE BOTH IN AGREEMENT. THE THING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO PASS AND SAID A MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CLERKS FOR EACH. HISTORICALLY TWO FOR THE LOWER TURNOUT AND I WOULD SUGGEST MAXIMUM AS PER THE COUNTY CLERK OF SIX FOR THE LARGER TURNOUT IN A LOT OF THOSE PLACES THAT HAVE CONTINUAL PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP.

SO WE NEED TO PROVE THIS AND TO SET THE MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM. IF ANY OF YOU HAVE SUGGESTIONS, THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN TURNED IN, IF NOT I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT.

>> QUESTION. I GUESS WHO WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS? I WOULD EXPECT THE CLERK TO BE HERE BECAUSE WE DID NOT COME UP WITH

THIS. >> THIS IS A LIST BASED ON HOW

YOUR PRECINCT IS DONE. >> NOT IN MY PRECINCT. A COUPLE ON HERE ARE NOT IN MY PRECINCT. THE BAPTIST CHURCHES PRECINCT 1 . THAT'S NOT IN MY PRECINCT. 4025 BY THAT ROAD.

>> I SEE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. >> WE ARE THE ONE IN CHARGE OF

THIS? >> APPARENTLY.

>> I'M SORRY WHAT WAS THE QUESTION?

>> HOW DID YOU GET THIS RESPONSIBILITY?

>> THE COUNTY CLERK TURNED IT OVER. SHE GAVE IT TO US.

>> THE APPORTIONMENT HAD NOT BEEN ADDRESSED IN AUGUST WHEN

WE DID THE ELECTION JUDGES. >> THAT SOMETHING WE NORMALLY HANDLE AS A COURT, TYPICALLY WE VOTE TO FINALIZE BUT USUALLY IT'S GIVEN TO US AND SAYS HERE IT IS THE WORK. WE JUST REVIEW

AND APPROVE. >> SO THAT CHANGE .

>> THAT HAD BEEN DONE IN THE PAST AT TIMES.

>> HE IS STATING A GOOD QUESTION. THE ANNABELLE BAPTIST

CHURCH IS NOT IN PRECINCT OR. >> IT'S ON THE LIST.

>> COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER MAREZ.

>> THAT ONE IS NOT MINE. IS THERE A CERTAIN NUMBER WE

SHOULD HAVE? >> I CAN GO DOUBLE CHECK THE

U-BOAT CENTERS . >> WHERE DID YOU GET THIS LIST?

>> THIS WAS MY LIST. THEY GAVE ME, THE COUNTY CLERK PROVIDED ME A LIST OF THE VOTE CENTERS FOR ELECTION DAY. I WENT AND SEARCHED THE ADDRESS OF EACH VOTE CENTER ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. IT SHOWS WHICH VOTE PRECINCT THE ADDRESS FALLS INTO . AND THEN THAT PARTICULAR VOTE PRECINCT MUST COME BACK OFF MY LIST ON THE BREAKUP BUT I WILL DOUBLE CHECK.

>> WE CAN VOTE TO APPROVE THIS.

>> IS THAT THE ONLY ONE? >> WE GOT THE LIST SO THERE WILL BE TIME TO LOOK THROUGH THIS.

>> I SENT THESE TO THE OFFICES LAST WEEK, I WILL GO DOUBLE

CHECK. >> THESE WENT TO THE REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC PARTIES AND TO THE COUNTY CLERK FOR EVERYONE TO LOOK OVER. I DID NOT EVEN SEE THIS ON YOURS.

>> THAT MIGHT BE THE ONLY ONE. COLLEGE WEST CAMPUS JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD DOES NOT , I GUESS IT COULD FALL IN, I

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NOT ALL OF VIOLET ROAD. >> I WAS GOING OFF OF WHERE WHAT VOTING PRECINCT IT FELL INTO. I HAD A BREAKOUT THE TAX OFFICE PROVIDED A BREAKOUT OF WHAT VOTING PRECINCTS FALL INTO WHICH COMMISSIONER PRECINCT SO IT MIGHT BE THE ADDRESS FALLS INTO THE VOTING PRECINCT, IT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE PART OF PRECINCT 3 DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> KING HIGH SCHOOL? >> THAT MAKE SENSE.

>> KING HIGH SCHOOL PROPER, THOSE GROUNDS ARE IN MY PRECINCT. LIKE WEST OH SO , I HAVE THE JUNIOR HIGH OR HIGH SCHOOL AND YOU HAVE THE OTHER AND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ HAS

THE REST. >> OKAY SO THEY ALREADY HAVE

PRETTY CLOSE TO MINE. WE SPLIT. >> WITH REFERENCES GOING OFF THE VOTING PRECINCT THAT IS WHY I HAD GONE OF THOSE NUMBERS.

KING HIGH SCHOOL. >> KING HIGH SCHOOL IS IN MY AREA BUT WE WERE SHOWING EXAMPLES OF WHERE THERE'S A SPLIT OF THE COMMISSIONER PRECINCT. ALMOST CERTAIN BECAUSE IT GOES SO FAR INTO VIOLET. THAT'S WHY IT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION. I DROVE BY THAT THE OTHER DAY TO GO TO A FOOTBALL GAME AND THERE'S ALMOST NO CERTAINTY THAT WOULD BE IN MY PRECINCT. THAT IS IN THE AREA, COMMISSIONER PRECINCT 1, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY AREA. OTHER THAN THAT, THAT MIGHT BE THE ONLY ONE. I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT OTHERS TO SEE MY AREAS IN

SOME OF THE OTHER PRECINCTS. >> ABSOLUTELY. I WILL DOUBLE

CHECK THAT AND THE OTHERS. >> CHECK WITH THE COUNTY CLERK.

SO EVERYBODY AGREES MOVING FORWARD, WE DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON THIS TO MOVE FORWARD IF IT'S NOT. IT MAKES MORE SENSE IT'S THE VOTING PRECINCT , NOT EXACTLY THAT ADDRESS. IT'S

CLOSE. >> AND HIGH SCHOOL, BUT IT'S A MIXTURE.

>> RIGHT. >> WE WILL BRING THIS ONE BACK UP. ITEM NUMBER 10. MISS HAWKINS YOU ARE HERE. IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK FOR THE STATUTE ON THE BURN BAN, IF IT CAN BE RECALLED WITHOUT COMING BACK TO COURT?

>> TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SUBCHAPTER D OUTDOOR BURNING 352 ZERO AND ONE REGULATION OF OUTDOOR BURNING. AND ORDER ADOPTED UNDER THIS SECTION MUST SPECIFY THE PERIOD DURING WHICH OUTDOOR BURNING IS PROHIBITED AND RESTRICTED THAT'S WHY THERE IS 60 DAYS. THE PERIOD MAY NOT EXPAND BEYOND 90TH.

AFTER THE DATE THE ORDER IS ADOPTED. ORDER ADOPTED UNDER THIS SECTION EXPIRES AS APPLICABLE ON THE DAY ONE, DETERMINATION MADE UNDER SUBSECTION B THAT THE DROUGHT CONDITIONS NO LONGER EXIST OR TWO, DETENTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONERS COURT OR COUNTY JUDGE OR FIRE MARSHAL IF DESIGNATED FOR THE PURPOSE BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT THE CIRCUMSTANCE IDENTIFIED UNDER SUBSECTION C MARK 2 NO

LONGER EXISTS. >> CAN YOU MAKE IS A COPY?

>> I CAN MAKE YOU A COPY. >> WE DO THE 60 DAYS FOR SOME WIGGLE ROOM. IF THE CONDITIONS WITHIN 60 DAYS DO CHANGE, THE JUDGE HAS THE ABILITY TO RESCIND THE ORDER. THE CHIEF JUST SAW THE UPDATED AND IT'S 505 TODAY.

>> JUDGE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO EXTEND THIS UNTIL THE NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING FOR THE BURN BAN AND SEE WHERE WE ARE AT THAT POINT.

>> THE REASON WE DID WANT TO SUGGEST, LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF FIRES WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY. WE HAD SEVERAL FIRES IN THE COUNTY. HAVING ONE A WEEK. WE HAD ONE THIS LAST WEEKEND WHERE

A STRUCTURE WAS BURNED DOWN. >> AGAIN I HAVE MADE THE MOTION TO EXTEND THIS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING AND THEN WE CAN REVIEW

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SEE WHY WE NEED TO GO 60 DAYS. >> I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. THE MOTION PASSES. MOVING COMING BACK ITEM NUMBER 10. MOVING ON THREE A 13

[13. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving execution of Job Order Authorization No. NCCP-003 in the amount of $81,597.41 under Job Order Contracting (JOC) Agreement No. 20240172-4/10 (RFP 3256-23) with South Texas Business Partners for the replacement of Padre Balli Office Doors; and related matters.]

MAKE IT FULLY ADA ACCESSIBLE. >> SO MOVED.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES.

[14. Receive updates from GrantWorks on American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) projects and deadlines and all related matters. Discuss and take action if necessary. ]

>> WE ARE TRAINING. >> UNDERSTAND. THERE WERE QUESTIONS ON THE PRECINCT ON THE PRECINCT 3 PROPORTION MEANT THE ANNABELLE BAPTIST CHURCH BEING IN THE GROUP. I KNOW WE SENT THE LIST TO YOU OR YOUR OFFICE SO IS THERE A WAY TO

EXPLAIN THAT? >> I DID NOT DO THIS. I DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWER. I RECOMMENDED LOCATIONS, THIS IS YOUR JOB. SO YOU ALL SHOULD GET ME AN ANSWER. SERIOUS I DON'T KNOW.

>> YOU DO IT NORMALLY. YOU GIVE IT TO US. I ASKED HER TO SEND THIS TO YOU BEFORE IT CAME TO COURT BECAUSE YOU DO THIS IN

THE PAST. >> THIS IS THE NEW LOCATION SO THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING, I KNOW SHE WORKED REALLY HARD ON IT.

>> I THOUGHT YOU CAME IN WITH AN ANSWER.

>> DID THE LAW CHANGE? NORMALLY WE GET A LIST AND THEN WE REVIEW AND APPROVE. WHY IS THAT FUNCTION NOW BEING THROWN?

>> SHE GIVE US A LIST ORIGINALLY FOR THE VOTING PRECINCTS. A LIST OF THE PLACES YOU WOULD USE. THIS IS JUST THE APPORTIONMENT OF WHAT IS PRESIDING JUDGE.

>> IS THAT SOMETHING NEW? >> WE ARE JUST REALLY BUSY.

IT'S BEEN A SMOOTH PROCESS. >> IN THE PAST WE HAVE ORDER TO ALLOW YOU TO JUST DO IT AND CHANGE IT, THIS YEAR YOU GIVE IT TO US. SO IN THE PAST WE HAVE ALLOWED YOU TO TAKE IT.

THAT'S WHY IT IS CHANGED. >> REALLY IT IS HERE, TAKE IT

BACK. >> THIS WAS APPROVED?

>> THE NUMBER OF PRESIDING JUDGES.

>> THEY PROVIDED A LIST TO YOU ALL. AND YOU ALL APPROVED THEM.

THE LIST FROM THE PARTY. >> I THINK TYRA IS BACK IN.

>> NOW YOU'RE JUST ASSIGNING. >> THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE ASSIGNMENT FOR PRECINCT 3 WITH ANNABELLE BAPTIST WHICH HE SAYS

IS NOT IN. >> YES, IT'S NEAR THE HILLTOP.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE SHE HAS THE ANSWER. I THOUGHT YOU HAD AN

ANSWER I'M SORRY. >> ONE QUESTION ON ONE OF MINE.

ROCK FILLED ROAD. AND MY BORDERLINE , SO IS GALLERY

CHAPEL OF THE COASTLAND? >> IS THAT 125?

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>> COMMISSIONER MAREZ ADDRESS FOR ANNABELLE BAPTIST CHURCH FALLS INTO VOTING PRECINCT 28 AND VOTING PRECINCT 28 FALLS INTO PRECINCT 3. AND I CAN LOOK INTO THE ADDRESS. CAVALRY

CHAPEL. >> 2001

>> 2001 ROD FIELD RD. THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO ME. NOW THE

OTHER ONE. >> IF YOU HAVE TIME TO FILE WOULD YOU GO TO THE OFFICE TO LOOK AT THIS SINCE YOU HAVE DONE THESE IN THE PAST? THANK YOU AND COME BACK.

>> TO BE CLEAR WOULD WE STICK WITH THE VOTING PRECINCT , WHERE THE VOTING PRECINCTS FALL INTO OR BY THE LOCATION?

>> TALK TO HER. WE WILL DO WITH WHAT THE RULE SAYS.

>> I GUARANTEE THE , SORRY WHAT WAS PRECINCT 2? CAVALRY BAPTIST. THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY PRECINCT.

VOTING PRECINCT WISE THAT'S THE CONFUSION. THAT'S WHY I AM CONFUSED AT WHAT'S GOING ON. WHY IS IT DIFFERENT AND WHY

DOES IT LOOK DIFFERENT? >> GET WITH HER. THIS NEEDS TO

BE DECIDED TODAY. >> THEY CAN VOTE ANYWHERE.

>> THIS IS SIMPLY JUST SEEING WHO IS THE PRESIDING AND

ALTERNATE JUDGES. >> THAT'S A BIG DEAL. OKAY.

>> NOW ITEM NUMBER 14. RECEIVE AN UPDATE FROM GRAND WORKS ON THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT PROJECTS AND DEADLINES. SORRY, I THOUGHT SHE HAD AN ANSWER TO SOLVE ALL PROBLEMS BUT WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS SO WE WILL GET BACK TO THAT LATER.

>> NO PROBLEM AT ALL. WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT ARPA AND GIVE YOU ALL AN UPDATE. AS YOU KNOW WE ARE QUICKLY MOVING TOWARD THE OBLIGATION DEADLINE AT THE END OF THE YEAR. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SOME OPTIONS WE HAVE.

>> CASIO QUESTION BEFORE YOU ARE GOING. I'M SORRY I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF BUT I DO. THE REASON I TABLE MINE IS THE JUDGE WAS RIGHT IT WAS NOT SPECIFIC ENOUGH, BUT THE OTHER THING. I HAVE A PROJECT WHEN WE AWARD TODAY WILL COME IN UNDER SIGNIFICANTLY UNDER BUDGET WHICH IS GREAT. WHICH WILL FREE UP ME TO HAVE ADDITIONAL ARPA FUNDS TO USE IN MY PRECINCT.

SEMI BEST PRACTICE QUESTION IS DO I JUST LEAVE IT IN THAT PROJECT FOR CONTINGENCY AND IT DOES THAT COUNT AS BEING ALLOCATED? I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THAT. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER SO I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THOSE FUNDS. BUT I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH.

>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT TODAY IS ABOUT. WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO WITH THE FUNDS BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE WILL BE

MULTIPLE PROJECTS SIMILAR. >> OKAY, SO THEN WHAT DO I DO?

>> THAT'S THE MOU'S SHE WILL TALK ABOUT.

>> DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF A PROJECT YOU WOULD WANT TO MOVE THE FUNDS INTO OR NO IDEA YET?

>> POSSIBLY, BUT I WANT TO LEAVE SOMETHING FOR CONTINGENCY BECAUSE THINGS SOMETIMES GO WRONG BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT COUNTS WITH THE FACT THAT WE ARE COMING UP ON THE END OF THE YEAR AND WHAT TO DO. YES I COULD SHIFT TO A PROJECT AND IT WILL FIGURE THAT OUT BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER 16 MEETING OR WHATEVER THE DATE IS 13TH. AND FIGURE IT OUT, BUT I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT I HAVE TO DO. IF I LEAVE THE PROJECT AND IF IT HAPPENS TO BLEED OVER WHAT HAPPENED? DO I LOSE THOSE

FUNDS? >> WE DO HAVE SOME OPTIONS HERE. SO, WE HAVE THE MOU THAT WE WERE GOING TO TALK TO HER TODAY. WE PUT A DRAFT ON THE AGENDA AS BACKUP SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AS AN EXAMPLE. SO THAT COULD BE ONE OPTION FOR YOUR SITUATION COMMISSION. PUTTING THOSE FUNDS IN THE MOU, THE BACKUP THAT I INCLUDED .

>> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I READ THE MOU BUT I'M NOT FOLLOWING.

GIVE ME A LITTLE MORE DETAIL, I APOLOGIZE, PUT IT IN THE MOU?

>> TREASURY HAS RELEASED SORT OF A FLEXIBILITY MEASURE SINCE SO MANY PEOPLE FROM THE TREASURY REPORT, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BEHIND MEETING THE DEADLINE. SO THEY INTRODUCED A

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COUNTED AS AN OBLIGATION. >> INTERAGENCY? WHO WHAT I

HAVE? >> IT'S KIND OF UNCONVENTIONAL. THEY HAVE SET YOU CAN DO INTERAGENCY AGREEMENTS WITH YOURSELF, WITH ANOTHER DEPARTMENT. SO WITH WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING IS THAT, YOU CAN HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT MOU'S. SO YOU HAVE A MOU WITH EACH DEPARTMENT THAT

OVERSEES THAT. >> FOR ANOTHER PROJECT. SO YOU'RE SAYING I CAN ASSIGN TO EXISTING PROJECT THAT I NEED IT

FOR OR I CAN HAVE A MOU? >> WITH PUBLIC WORKS. WITH THE HR, IF IT'S PERSONNEL. THERE ARE STIPULATIONS. ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO ADDRESS AND PUSH MOVING FORWARD IF WE DO THESE THINGS, THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO, YOU CAN CREATE A NEW PROJECT WITH THIS. IT HAS TO BE A PROJECT ON OUT FOR BID , MAYBE AMENDMENT ALTERNATE OR SOMETHING DID NOT HAVE FUNDING FOR AN IT CAN GO TOWARD THAT PROJECT IN THE FUTURE. YOU CAN JUST PULL OUT ON THE JOB IS NOT OBLIGATED. IN THESE MEMORANDUMS OF UNDERSTANDING IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO THAT AT THE NOVEMBER MEETING WE HAVE TO HAVE A ITEMIZED LIST OF WHAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY USE THE MONEY FOR BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT IN THERE AND IF IT'S NOT BID OUT WE HAVE THAT , WE CAN BRING UP A NEW PROJECT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU WANT TO SEND IT ON THE

BUILDING. >> IF YOU HAVE TO ASSIGN TO EXISTING PROJECT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE VALUE OF THE MOU IS . IF YOU HAVE TO ASSIGN IT TO AN ALREADY ALLOCATED AND BID OUT PROJECT THEN JUST REALLOCATE.

>> JUDGE IS TALKING ABOUT THE CONTRACT FLEXIBILITY. ANOTHER TOPIC. THE MOU, AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A CLEAR SCOPE OF WORK IN THE MOU AND YOU HAVE THE FUNDS THAT YOU'RE ALLOCATING TOWARD

THE PROJECT, IT'S COUNTED. >> SO THAT'S THE CONTRACTUAL

OBLIGATION. >> I CAN USE IT FOR A NEW PROJECT THAT IT'S NOT SCOPED OUT FOR?

>> BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. >> RIGHT, SO THEN I CAN USE IT FOR A PROJECT WITH SCOPE OF WORK BUT IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE

BID OUT AND CONTRACTED. >> SHE TOLD US NO THE OTHER

DAY. >> BRIGHT.

>> YOU HELP WITH CONTRACTS WHEN WE CANNOT GO OUT FOR BID.

>> THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE THAT YOU CAN DO IT LIKE AMANDA

SAYS. >> COMMISSIONER EXAMPLE, REAL-WORLD EXAMPLE, WE WORKING ON THE JAIL OVER HERE ON THE JAIL ROOF COATING. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A ENGINEERING FIRM, HANSON. WE WILL BRING THE WORK AUTHORIZATION COME NOVEMBER.

THEY ARE LOOKING AT IT NOW WITH A COST ESTIMATE , BUT IT'S GOING TO COST AND WE WILL DO THE WORK AUTHORIZATION IN NOVEMBER. WE WILL PUT IT ON THE LIST.

>> THAT'S ALREADY PROJECT APPROVED. HE'S TALKING ABOUT A

TOTALLY BRAND-NEW ONE. >> AMANDA SAYS I CAN DO A TOTALLY BRAND-NEW AND. THE MOU WOULD NOT MAKE SENSE TO EVEN HAVE IF YOU CANNOT DO A NEW PROJECT BECAUSE YOU ALLOCATE TO EXISTING. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING MAKES MORE SENSE.

>> IT HAS TO BE IN THE MOU, CLEARLY DEFINED AND BEFORE THE

END OF THE YEAR. >> FUNDING ALLOCATED?

>> THE FUNDING HAS TO BE ALLOCATED.

>> WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LEFTOVER FUNDS , YOU WILL NOT LOSE THEM, ON PROJECTS ALREADY PROJECTED.

>> THAT'S FOR NEXT YEAR. >> THE KEY IS THE MONEY HAS TO

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>> YES, THIS MOU WOULD TAKE PLACE OF A TRADITIONAL

CONTRACT. >> IF YOU HAVE NO FUNDING FOR OVER AND YOU ARE ASSUMING I MIGHT HAVE MONEY IS WHAT HE SAYING. CAN YOU PUT A PROJECT ON THE LIST ?

>> IF I HAVE A BRAND-NEW PROJECT WITH A SCOPE OF WORK THAT HAS NO CONTRACT, NOT BEEN ALLOCATED I CAN USE THIS FOR

THIS. >> THE ALLOCATION PART YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME TO COURT AND ALLOCATE, BUT YES.

>> YOU ONLY HAVE ONE MORE MEETING.

>> WELL, BY THE END OF THE YEAR. I WILL DO IT BY NOVEMBER, BUT BY THE END OF THE YEAR WE COULD DO A BRAND-NEW PROJECT WITH LEFTOVER MONEY. HAVE THIS MOU AS LONG AS THERE IS SCOPE OF WORK. TELL ME WHAT THE SCOPE OF WORK NEEDS TO BE. WHAT IT IS DEFINED AS, HOW SPECIFIC DOES THAT NEED TO BE? I JUST NEED TO

KNOW. >> VERY SPECIFIC. AS SPECIFIC

AS POSSIBLE. >> I CAN SEND YOU SCOPE OF WORK AND YOU CAN SAY THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH. ABSOLUTELY GOT IT.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. ARE YOU SAYING ALL OF THE BALANCES, THE BALANCE OF A COMPLETED PROJECT INCREASING I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THEM BACK TO PRECINCT 1. CAN I DO THAT?

>> IF YOUR PROJECT COMES UNDER THE BID?

>> THERE IS MONIES , THERE IS MONIES THERE LEFTOVER. BROUGHT

BACK TO PRECINCT 1. >> CAN I INTERJECT A LITTLE QUESTION PLEASE? IF THEY HAVE ALREADY ALLOCATED ALL OF THEIR MONEY , WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO ADD A PROJECT? YES. SO IN ESSENCE, OVER ALLOCATE MORE FUNDING SO EVERYTHING KIND OF

FALLS OUT IN THE WASHER LATER. >> WE WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THAT.

>> THAT GOES INTO NEXT YEAR, THE CONTRACT FLEXIBILITY YOU DO HAVE WHICH IS ON THE BACKUP ON PAGE 2 WHICH TALKS ABOUT WHEN AND WHERE YOU CAN MOVE THE MONEY. SO IF YOU HAVE A PROJECT NEXT YEAR THAT COMES IN UNDER, RIGHT, SO LET'S DO A SCENARIO REAL QUICK. IF YOU HAVE A PROJECT YOU OBLIGATED IN THE MOU, ALLOCATED AND OBLIGATED IN THE MOU. YOU GO OUT FOR BID AND THE PROJECT COMES IN UNDER BUDGET, YOU CAN THEN HAVE A CHANGE ORDER AND MOVE THAT MONEY.