[F. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]

COMMENTS? IF YOU WANT TO START, I KNOW YOU'RE BUSY AND NEED SOMEONE TO GO. SO I WILL START.

JUDGE AND HONORABLE COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE OF THE YOUTH AUDITING PROGRAM. IT'S A GREAT IMPACT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND IN REGARDS TO THE ISSUES WE HAVE HERE IN THE COUNTY OF OASIS. I'M HERE TO RECOMMEND OTHERS . EMILY WAS ABOUT TO BE DISCUSSED LATER ON. I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW IN THE COURT THAT THE YOUTH HONESTY IS A VERY IMPORTANT ORGANIZATION THAT DEALS WITH OUR ISSUES WE HAVE IN NUECES.

HOPEFULLY, WE STILL CONTINUE TO HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF SEEING OUR PROGRAMS TO COMBAT ACADEMIC PROBLEMS WE HAVE HERE. THANK

YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

MEMBERS OF COMMISSIONERS. IT IS A 50 SOUTH STAPLES. OUR PRESENT THE NUECES COUNTY COMMERCIAL SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER FOUR. WHERE HERE, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE WE WERE SHOCKED BY YOUR ACTION ON DECEMBER 13TH OF NOT REHAB WINNING JEFF POINT AS THE COMMISSIONER. WE ARE STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT HAPPENED. WE ARE JUST KIND OF AMAZED. MR. ATWOOD WILL SPEAK A LITTLE BIT LATER AND TELL YOU ABOUT HIS CREDENTIALS. HE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN FIREFIGHTING FOR 41 YEARS. HE STARTED WHEN HE WAS 16 YEARS OLD. HE SPENT 17 YEARS ON THE BOARD OF OUR DISTRICT. HE SPENT ON THE BOARD OF OTHER DISTRICTS. I UNDERSTAND FROM LOOKING AT THE VIDEO OF THE MEETING, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER HE WAS ATTENDING BOARD MEETINGS. THE FACTS ARE, I BELIEVE MR. GARZA HAS SENT YOU AN EMAIL. MR. ATWOOD MISSED FIVE MEETING OF HONEY FIVE IN HIS LAST TERM. FIVE OUT OF 25. FOUR OF THOSE WERE BECAUSE OF SURGERY AND RECOVERY FROM THE SURGERY.

ONE OF THEM WAS DURING COVID, WHICH IS PRETTY UNDERSTANDABLE.

WE BELIEVE HE BRINGS A GREAT DEAL OF EXPERIENCE. OUR PRESENT GOVERNMENTAL BODIES AND ANYONE. I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR A FRESH LOOK AT THINGS. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVES, YOU NEED THE MEMORY OF SOMEONE HAS BEEN AROUND. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE MISSING WITH MR. ATWOOD GONE. MY BACKGROUND IS IN CITY GOVERNMENT , BASICALLY. I STILL REPRESENT SOME CITIES . AISLES ARE PRESENT THREE OF OR ESD'S. WHEN I REPRESENT CITIES, I SAY THAT BECAUSE I DO

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NOT REPRESENT COUNTIES. I DON'T RECALL THAT I'VE EVER REPRESENTED ANY KIND EXCEPT MAYBE ONCE IN A NATION CASE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR RULES ARE THE SAME AS ALL RULES. IN THE GOVERNMENT, NOTHING HAPPENED , THAT YOU LOOK AT AND SAY THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE TO REVERSE . AT THE VERY NEXT MEETING, YOU CAN DO A MOTION TO RECUSE HITTER. I UNDERSTAND FROM YOUR AGENDA, HOW YOU FEEL COMPELLED NOT TO ADDRESS ANY.

I THINK YOU COULD ADDRESS A COMING AGENDA ITEM AT YOUR NEXT MEETING. TO MAKE A MOTION TO WEAKEN SITTER A SECOND TO HAVE IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA AND WE CAN SITTER YOUR PAYMENT. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, IF YOU HAVE ANY

>> THANK YOU, SIR. AND PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE CAN DO QUESTIONS

ARE ANSWERED. >> I UNDERSTAND.

>> I THINK THAT'S THE QUICKEST I'VE GOT THERE IN THREE

MINUTES. >> THANK YOU.

>> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, DO WE HAVE THAT ROLE? DOES THAT

APPLY TO US? >> THIS WAS CONSIDERING ABOUT WHERE SOMEONE WAS NOT APPOINTED TO A BOARD THAT WAS AN INDEPENDENT BOARD , IT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT. WE ISSUED AN ADVISORY IN JANUARY OF 2020 THREE REGARDING ANOTHER ES D REMOVAL . I WILL BE RECIRCULATING THAT ADVISORY LATER TODAY. BUT I BELIEVE I WILL JUST DEFER TO THAT AS MY ADVICE TO COMMISSIONERS COURT.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ADVICE WAS, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AN ENEMY. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, HIS MISINFORMATION WAS GIVEN IN NOVEMBER HAS NOT BEEN SWORN IN, AGAIN, I'VE SLEPT SINCE THAT ADVISORY, THAT WAS A YEAR AGO. I HAVE NOT SEEN IT IN THE YEAR. I DON'T KNOW YOU ARE REFERRING TO. WE CAN ALWAYS MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER ANYTHING, IN MY OPINION THAT IS SOMETHING DOES NOT BEEN SWORN INTO FOR ANYTHING ANYWHERE. UNLESS YOU SHOW ME A LAW THAT SAYS WE

CAN'T. >> NONPUBLIC COMMENT.

>> WILL HAVE TO BRING THIS BACK FOR ANOTHER MEETING SO THERE'S NO REASON TO DISCUSS ANYMORE.

>> THE ADVISORY WILL BE CIRCULATED AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT ARE REQUISITE FOR REMOVAL OF AN

ESD BOARD MEMBER. >> THEY'VE NOT BEEN SWORN IN, IT'S NOT REMOVAL , THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

>> THAT SOMETHING WE CAN ADDRESS.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO.

>> WHEN I SPOKE TO THIS MORNING, THERE WAS NO QUESTION

TO YOU IF THEY BEEN SWORN IN. >> YOU DID NOT KNOW WHETHER

THEY HAD AT THAT TIME. >> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

>> WE CAN ADDRESS THIS. SHE WAS IN THE INFORMATION. OUR ATTORNEY WILL GIVE THIS INFORMATION WILL HAVE TO PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA, HOWEVER WANTS TO BRING THIS BACK UP. I KNOW. THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION THAT WE CAN HAVE TODAY. SO IT'S REALLY A MOOT POINT. MOVING FORWARD, WE WILL HAVE IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA IF THIS GETS CLARIFIED.

ERNEST. YOU ARE ALREADY THERE READY.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS ERNEST. I'M A LOCAL CPA AND WORK WITH A LOT OF GOVERNMENT AMENITIES. 45 THIRD LIGHT OAK CORPORATE STREET, TEXAS. I WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION ON DECEMBER 13TH OF 2023 MEETING REGARDING THE APPOINTMENT SPECIFICALLY, OUR PRESIDENT, MR. JEFF ATWOOD HAD ATTENDANCE ISSUES. I WAS ASKED TO REVIEW THE PRIOR MINUTES, BECAUSE I ATTEND ALL THE MEETING. I TAKE THOSE MINUTES.

IN REVIEWING THOSE, I FEEL LIKE YOU ARE NOT SURE WHO GAVE YOU THE INFORMATION, BUT HE DID NOT GET A DISCUSSION . IT WAS MADE ABOUT HIS ATTENDANCE , AND THAT WAS NOT A FULL ACCURATE RESPONSE. I REVIEWED THE LAST TWO YEARS . OUT OF 25 MEETINGS , MR. GEORGE SAID THERE WERE FIVE MEETINGS MISSED. SO HE'S BEEN THERE 80% OF THE TIME. SO I THINK THAT WAS MISLEADING INFORMATION THAT YOU ARE PROVIDING. I BELIEVE YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT. IT WILL BE CRITICAL INFORMATION ON YOUR APPOINTMENT DECISION. MR. ATWOOD HAS BEEN PRESENT , NOT JUST WITH ESD NUMBER FOUR FOR MANY YEARS . HE WAS THE FIRE CHIEF FOR OUR TSC FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS. HE WAS OUR PRESIDENT -- FOR MANY YEARS. MR. ATWOOD HAS OVER 40 YEARS OF WORKING FIRE AND BEING A PARAMEDIC , SERVING OUR COUNTY. I JUST WANT TO STATE THE FACTS FOR YOU. AND GIVE YOU FULL

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DISCLOSURE. I HAVE COPIES OF MINUTES . AGAIN, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> MR. ATWOOD. >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP AND SPEAK WITH YOU ALL THIS MORNING. MY NAME IS JEFF ATWOOD. I LIVE AT 8888 HIDDEN VALLEY LUKE. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT MY REAPPOINTMENT TO ALWAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONER NUMBER FOUR. IN REGARD TO DECEMBER 13TH 2020 IS A REGULAR BOARD MEETING. I'D LIKE TO TALK TO ABOUT MY EXPERIENCE FIRST. I STARTED VOLUNTEERING WHEN I WAS 16 YEARS OLD IN 1984. WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. I HAVE OVER 10 YEARS EXPERIENCE IS VOLUNTEER FIREMAN. I WAS APPOINTED TO DUST MY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS AND SERVED ON THAT BOARD FOR OVER 12 YEARS.

EIGHT OF THOSE YEARS, I WAS THE BOARD PRESIDENT. IN 2006, I WAS ON MY POSITION AT ESE NUMBER ONE AND MY FAMILY MOVED TO A NEW HOME IN THE BLENDER COMMUNITY. NOT LONG AFTER I WAS IN OUR NEW HOME , I WAS APPROACHED BY SOME THUGS IN THE COMMUNITY AND WAS ASKED IF I WOULD SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO BE PART OF THE -- SOON THEREAFTER I DID THAT AND IT 2006 , I WAS APPOINTED TO USD NUMBER FOUR. IN 2008, I WAS ASKED BY THE BOARD TO BE BOARD PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD.

ACCEPTED THAT POSITION . FOR THE LAST 17 YEARS , I'VE SERVED ON THAT BOARD.

IN 1988, I BEGAN MY CAREER IN THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE SERVICES. I WAS HIRED BY THE FIRE TERMINAL FIRE COMPANY , UPHELD THE POSITION OF FIREFIGHTER , DRIVER, CAPTAIN, TRAINING OFFICER, DIVISION CHIEF , ASSISTANT CHIEF, DEPUTY CHIEF, AND FIRE CHIEF. AS FIRE CHIEF AT RTC, WE HAD HUNDRED 22 EMPLOYEES THAT WORK FOR ME. I HAD SEVEN FIRE STATIONS I OVERSAW . I OVERSAW $14 MILLION A YEAR BUDGET . I RETIRED AFTER 24 YEARS WITH OUR TFC TO HELP MANAGE THE FAMILY BUSINESS. I HOLD CERTIFICATIONS AS A FIREFIGHTER, A MARINE FIREFIGHTER, A TRAINING OFFICER , A HAZARDOUS MATERIAL TECHNICIAN, COMBINED SPACE AND RESCUE TECHNICIAN . I'M A CERTIFIED INCIDENT COMMANDER, A CERTIFIED EMERGENCY MEDICAL TECHNICIAN AND A CERTIFIED PARAMEDIC. 441 YEARS, I'VE SERVED THE FIRE EMS SERVICE IN OASIS COUNTY. I TRIED TO TAKE THE SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE THAT GOD HAS GIVEN ME AND HELP THE COMMUNITY THAT I LIVE IN. THIS COURT WAS MISINFORMED AND MISLED. THE MAC YOU NEED TO

WRAP IT UP. >> THIS COURT WAS MISLED AND WAS INFORMED AND GIVE DECEMBER 13 MEETING. ASKED THE COURT TO RECONSIDER THE DECISION NOT TO REAPPOINT ME .

>> THANK YOU. >> PAUL SWEATERS ?

>> I'M PAUL SWEDISH. 5041 SUNRISE TRAIL. I'M A COMMISSIONER WITH CHIEF ATWOOD -- OR JEFF ATWOOD. OUT THERE AT ESD NUMBER FOUR. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT HIS QUALIFICATIONS AND WHAT HE'S DONE FOR THE ORGANIZATIONS SINCE WE STARTED OUT THERE. HIM AND I WERE RUNNING 17 YEARS AGO TOGETHER. WE WALKED INTO AND WHERE WE ARE AT TODAY ARE LEAPS AND BOUNDS. BUT WE ARE NOT DONE YET. THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW AS WE ARE MAKING CHANGES. WE WANT TO GROW AND DEVELOP. THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT DON'T LIKE CHANGE, DON'T WANT TO CHANGE . WE ARE MOVING FORWARD. WE HAVE TO MOVE TOWARD. THAT AREA IS GROWING .

A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OUT THERE. JEFF ATWOOD, I KEEP CALLING

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HIM CHIEF ATWOOD, BECAUSE I WORK WITH HIM FOR 34 YEARS. BUT ANYWAY, WE NEED THAT TYPE OF LEADERSHIP OUT THERE. I KNOW CHANGE IS GOOD , BUT ALSO THE EXPERIENCE THAT HE BRINGS IN THE FIRE SERVICE AND THE EMS SERVICE. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE OUT THERE FOR. PLEASE REAPPOINT , OR CONSIDER REAPPOINTING HIM TO THE BOARD. WE NEED THAT. HE'S BEEN PRESIDENT MAJORITY OF THE TIME OUT THERE AND HAS PUSHED THE DEPARTMENT FORWARD. A LOT OF US STILL HAVE FULL-TIME JOBS. WE DON'T HAVE TIME , NECESSARY TO PUT 100% INTO IT. HE PUTS 100% INTO IT. HE HAS THE ABILITY WORKING FOR THE FAMILY BUSINESS , HAS A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY. SOME OF US TO HAVE A FULL-TIME JOB, SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO MAKE. I WAS IN THE SAME BOAT. I MISSED FIVE MEETINGS IN THE LAST 25. I HAD TO TAKE TIME OFF OF WORK TO DO THAT. AND TO VOLUNTEER BASIS. PLEASE RECONSIDER HIM AND REAPPOINTING HIM TO THE BOARD. HE DOES A GREAT JOB . HE'S DONE A FANTASTIC JOB OVER THE LAST 17 YEARS.

>> THANK YOU. >> HELLO COMMISSIONERS. I'M JUST HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF JEFF ATWOOD. IN 2001 , NASHER WAS THE RIGHT DECISION. HE WAS OUR ESD BOARD PRESIDENT FOR THE COUNTY SD ONE. HIM AND THE REST OF THE BOARD MADE A DECISION TO HIRE ME AND BRING ME DOWN HERE AND TAKE OVER THIS ORGANIZATION. HE HELPED US LEAD THE ESD ONE TO WHERE IT IS TODAY. I THINK HE'S DOING THE SAME THING OUT THERE. HE CARES ABOUT THE COMMUNITY . THAT'S WHAT HE'S HERE FOR. SOMETIMES IT DOES CAUSE ISSUES, BUT HE'S IN IT FOR THE COMMUNITY. I SUPPORT WHAT HE'S DONE. I HOPE YOU ALL DO TOO. THANK YOU.

>> EXCUSE ME, JUDGE. I'M NOT WHAT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT MR. ATWOOD. I WANT TO OFFER MY APOLOGIES TO MR. ATWOOD. AND TO THE REST OF THE MEMBERS. I HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF , FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD .

>> THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENTS. IF WE ADDRESS THIS LATER, THAT WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT. I'M GOING TO MOVE ON.

ARE THERE ANY -- >> I WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION TO

RECONSIDER. >> THIS IS AN PUBLIC COMMENT , IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT ON THE AGENDA

FOR THE NEXT MEETING. >> WE SHOULD NOT BE TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THIS. I'M SORRY, I'M GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. WE

CAN PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA. >> CAN WE GET THE ATTORNEY TO

SAY THAT? >> IN PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU RESPOND THAT YOU CAN PUT AN ITEM ON THE NEXT AGENDA. YOU CAN MAKE STATEMENTS OF FACTS, BUT A BACK AND FORTH AND --

>> DOES THERE NEED TO BE A FORM OF A MOTION TO PUT ON THE NEXT

AGENDA. >> I DID NOT KNOW YOU CAN PUT

THAT IN PUBLIC COMMENT . >> I'M ASKING.

>> I'M DRAFTING AN EMAIL TO PUT ON THE REPORT.

>> YOU CAN SIMPLY PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA.

>> DID WE NOT ADDRESS THIS THIS MORNING?

>> WE DID, SIR. IT'S UNKNOWN AT THE TIME IS --

>> WHAT IS IT IN MY PRESENT . I'M TRYING TO GRAB THE PROBLEM

THAT WAS CREATED. >> SHOULD GO TO THE NEXT

MEETING. >> AGAIN. I WOULD SAY WE NEED TO GIVE DIRECTION AT SOME POINT TO NOT SWEAR ANYBODY IN .

THAT'S A PROBLEM. >> RESEARCH IS ONGOING ON WHETHER THE SWEARING-IN IS PIVOTAL OR NOT. SO I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER WHETHER THE SWEARING-IN MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

OUR NEXT MEETING. >> I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ABOUT IT. IT'S A PROBLEM I WANT TO CORRECT IT.

>> THERE ANYONE HERE WHO DID NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENT THAT DID NOT SENATE? YOU CAN DO SO RIGHT NOW. IF YOU JUST THAT YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.

[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]

THERE BEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON WITH OUR AGENDA, THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY ITEMS THEY WISH TO PULL FOR THIS? I WANT TO PULL ITEM K .

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ARE THERE ANY ITEMS ANYBODY MUST BE A LOT OF THE CONSENT AGENDA OTHER THAN ITEM K? I HAVE A QUESTION TO ASK THE ATTORNEY ON K . IF NOT, I'LL ACCEPT A MOTION TO PASS THE TENT AGENDA EXCLUDING ITEM K . I WILL MAKE THE MOTION. LET ME

CLARIFY. >> AMENDMENT ON THE DOLLAR

AMOUNT. >> WE NEED TO PULL THE

CATHOLIC CHARITIES. >> IT WILL BE H4.

>> YOU SAID K, JUDGE? >> YES. H4, AND K. ALEX AT THE MOTION, PAST CONSENT AGENDA EXCLUDING ITEM K AT AGE 4.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND. ALL

[H. Authorize the following "Outside Agency" Contracts for FY 2023-2024: 1. American Red Cross - Coastal Bend -Texas Chapter - Total - $2,500 County Judge - $2,000; Commissioner Pct. 3 - $500 2. Boys & Girls Clubs of the Coastal Bend - Total - $4,000 County Judge - $2,000; Commissioner Pct. 2 - $1,500; Commissioner Pct. 3 - $500 3. Brooks Chapel A.M.E. Worship Center - Commissioner Pct. 1 - $1,000 4. Catholic Charities of Corpus Christi, Inc. - Total - $3,400 Commissioner Pct. 1 - $1,000; Commissioner Pct. 2 - $1,500; Commissioner Pct. 3 - $500 5. Children's Advocacy Center of the Coastal Bend - Total - $1,900 Commissioner Pct. 1 - $1,400; Commissioner Pct. 3 - $500 6. Coastal Bend Food Bank - Total - $7,300 ($1,900 - Banquete; $5,400 - Corpus Christi) County Judge - $2,000; Commissioner Pct. 1 - $3,800; Commissioner Pct. 3 - $500; Commissioner Pct. 4 - $1,000 7. Coastal Bend Wellness Foundation - Total - $2,500 County Judge - $1,000; Commissioner Pct. 1 - $500; Commissioner Pct 4. - $1,000 8. Corpus Christi Citizen's Police Academy Alumni - Total - $2,500 County Judge - $2,000; Commissioner Pct. 1 - $500 9. Corpus Christi Police Officers' Association - Total $3,050 County Judge - $1,000; Commissioner Pct. 1 - $800; Commissioner Pct. 3 - $500; Commissioner Pct. 4 - $750 10. Duke It Out Boxing Club - Total $3,500 County Judge- $1,000; Commissioner Pct. 1 - $500; Commissioner Pct. 2 - $1,000; Commissioner Pct. 3 - $500; Commissioner Pct. 4 - $500 11. Franco's Pride Boxing Club - Total $1,000 Commissioner Pct. 1 - $500; Commissioner Pct. 3 - $500 12. Je'Sani Smith Foundation - Total - $6,000 County Judge - $1,000; Commissioner Pct. 4 - $5,000 13. Lone Star Youth Horse Association - Total - $2,000 Commissioner Pct. 1 - $1,000; Commissioner Pct. 4 - $1,000 14. Mother Teresa Shelter Inc. - Commissioner Pct. 1 - $1,000 15. New Life Refuge Ministries - Total $2,000 County Judge - $1,000; Commissioner Pct. 4 - $1,000 16. NC CPS Community Partners Board Inc. - Commissioner Pct. 3 - $1,000 17. Robstown Area Historical Museum - Total - $2,500 Commissioner Pct. 1 - $1,000; Commissioner Pct. 3 - $1,500 18. Robstown ISD Education Foundation - Total - $1,800 Commissioner Pct. 1 - $800; Commissioner Pct. 3 - $1,000 19. Special Hearts In The Arts Program - Total $5,000 County Judge - $1,000; Commissioner Pct. 1 - $1,000; Commissioner Pct. 2 - $1,000; Commissioner Pct. 3 - $2,000 20. The Ark Assessment Center & Emergency Shelter - Total $3,000 County Judge - $1,000; Commissioner Pct. 1 - $1,000; Commissioner Pct. 3 - $1,000 21. The Purple Door - Total - $1,600 County Judge - $1,000; Commissioner Pct. 1 - $600 22. The Rise School of Corpus Christi - Total - $1,500 Commissioner Pct. 1 - $500; Commissioner Pct. 4 - $1,000]

THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSE THINGS ON. THE MOTION PASSES. MOVING TO AGE 4 , THERE WAS JUST A DISCREPANCY. THERE WAS A TYPO. IT SHOULD BE $900 FOR COMMISSIONER PRECINCT TWO , I SHOULD BE $900. AND IT HAS 500. I JUST WANT TO CORRECT THAT NUMBER. AND EXCEPT THE MOTION TO PASS THAT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSE,

THE SAME SIGN. >> HE SAYING WHAT WAS THE

MOTION . >> CORRECT THE AMOUNT FROM 500 TO 900 . THERE WAS A TYPO ON THE CONTRIBUTION AMOUNT , THE

[K. Ratify Order Adopting County Election Precincts, specifically the division of Voting Precinct 8 into Voting Precincts 8 and 129, in compliance with Texas Election Code § 42.031 regarding Reviewing Precincts for Compliance: Boundary Changes.]

LEVEL. >> FROM PRECINCT THREE.

>> ON ITEM K, I RECEIVED A NOTE THAT WE POSTED THAT WHEN WE DID IT REGIONALLY. WE HAVE TO REPOST IT AGAIN.

>> JUDGE, I BELIEVE, IF I CAN ASK THE COURT TO HOLD FOR A MOMENT AND GIVE US A MOMENT TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE CLERK ON THAT , WE ASK THAT WE CAN DO --

>> IT MAY BE BEFORE WE PUT IT ON THERE. IT WAS IN THE DISCUSSION THAT WE LOOK ON THE VIDEO, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY SAID GIVE IT THE NEXT NUMBER. SO IT HAD ALREADY BEEN POSTED, AND THAT ARGUMENT IN THE PAPERS. SO WE WERE TOLD NO, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO. IT WAS A SIMPLE JUST TO ASSIGN THE

NUMBER 129. >> THE ONLY PART TO ESTABLISH NOW IS THAT YOU NEED TO PICK A DATE BY WHICH NOTICE CAN BE SENT TO THE AFFECTED VOTERS. WE'VE MADE THAT QUESTION SANDS. I'M JUST WAITING ON A RESPONSE . IT'S NOT THE FEBRUARY DATES. BUT IF SHE COULD DO IT BY JANUARY 12 AND JANUARY 13TH, THEN SHE JUST NEEDS TO SEND A NOTICE.

>> I THOUGHT WE NEEDED IT DONE IMMEDIATELY. I THOUGHT THIS WAS ALL DONE. I DID NOT KNOW WE WERE DOING IT AGAIN.

>> HE WAS BEHIND ON HIS NOTIFICATION. THUS THE REASON IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE

NUMBER SIGN. >> I THOUGHT WE DID THIS MONTHS AGO AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE DOING IT AGAIN. I WILL MAKE WHATEVER MOSHE WANT ME TO MAKE CONTINGENT UPON WHATEVER WE MAKE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO

COME BACK AND DO IT AGAIN. >> AL ASKED THAT YOU HOLD UNTIL WE FIND A DATE BY WHICH THE CLERK AND SENT OUT NOTICE TO AFFECTED VOTERS. WHAT SHOULD BE SHORTLY IN JANUARY AS FAR AS

WHAT SHE CAN FACTUALLY DO. >> CAN WE JUST -- AND WE NOT JUST PASS THIS BASED ON WHATEVER THAT DATE IS THAT YOU AND THE COUNTY CLERK AGREED TO , SO THAT WE CAN PUT THIS TO BED? I THOUGHT THIS WAS DONE.

>> THAT SOUNDS ADEQUATE , COMMISSIONER. AND PROBABLY BY THE END OF THE DAY, WE CAN COME BACK AND ANNOUNCE WHAT DATE

THAT IS PAID >> JUST SO WE DON'T FORGET WHATEVER. MY MOTION WOULD BE THAT WE RATIFY THE ORDER .

>> I'M SORRY. >> THAT'S OKAY.

>> I JUST GOT WORD FROM CARA THAT COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE DOES NOT SEND THE NOTICE TO THE VOTERS, KEVIN DOES. SHE JUST SENDS IT TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE.

>> SO I CAN MAKE ANGRY WITH KEVIN.

>> IS READY TO GO. >> EZEUDU, JUDGE, HE'S READY TO

GO. >> WE HAD TO SIGN AN EMERGENCY.

>> A MOTION TO RATIFY AN ORDER WE ARTIE DID WERE REGARDING SPECIFIC DIVISION OF VOTING PRECINCT 8 AND VOTING PRECINCT 129 AGAIN REGARDING INCREASING'S FOR COMPLIANCE AND NOTIFICATION CAN BE SUBJECT TO THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND THE TAX COLLECTOR.

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>> I SECOND THAT MOTION. >> THAT EFFICIENTLY SAID,

JENNY ? >> IF I GET CONFIRMATION BACK ,

I JUST SENT AN EMAIL. >> IS READY TO GO, AS FAR AS I

KNOW. >> IF HE'S NOT ALREADY SENT THEM OUT. HE WAS PREPARING TO SEND THEM OUT.

>> WHATEVER DATE YOU AGREED TO. >> SO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND . ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSE , SAME TIME. THE MOTION PASSES. MOVING ONTO OUR REGULAR AGENDA.

[1. Receive updates, if any, regarding the Bob Hall Pier project and all related matters. ]

ITEM A1 RECEIVE UPDATE ANY REGARDING THE PEER PROJECT AND

ALL MATTERS. >> JUDGE. QUICK WAY SORRY.

NOT TO THE PAGE. WHAT I'VE ASKED FOR THE COURT AND FOR THE PUBLIC IS THAT -- I DON'T SEE IT. IT WAS EMAIL TO EVERYBODY.

I'VE ASKED FOR SCOTT HARRIS TO PROVIDE -- DID EVERYBODY GET AN EMAIL THAT WAS SENT AROUND? IT WAS NOT VERY LONG. IT'S NOT MY BOOK, FOR SOME REASON. BUT I'VE SEEN IT. BASICALLY, I'VE ASKED HIM TO GIVE US AN UPDATE TO PUT IN THE AGENDA FOR EVERY MEETING SO THE COURT AND PUBLIC KNOWS WHAT THE PROGRESS IS. JUDGE, I WAS GOING TO READ THAT, BUT I DON'T HAVE IT. I'M

SORRY. >> WE MAY ALSO SUGGEST THAT THESE ARE DATES, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS ALL THE TIME , TO GET HERE LITTLE BIT QUICKLY, SO WE CAN POST THEM ALSO WITH THE AGENDA ITEM IF IT'S JUST GOING TO BE AN UPDATE LIKE

THIS. >> I THOUGHT IT WAS. MAYBE YOU DID NOT GET ON TIME TO YOU. WE DEFINITELY WILL. HE KNOWS NOT TO DO IT, THIS IS THE FIRST ONE. ABSOLUTELY. I GOT A COUPLE OF LAST-MINUTE. I GET IT. THE PROJECT UPDATE IS VERY SMALL.

I'M GOING TO READ THAT. TO CONTINUE WORKING ON THE DESIGN AND THE LAND OWNER ABOUT MARCH 1. THE LAND TEAM, WHICH IS LAND HANSEN S AND I, DELIVER, TWO UP WITHIN ONE WEEK JACOBS WILL ADDRESS ANY LAST-MINUTE COMMENTS AND PRESENT THE DESIGN TO COASTAL PARKS WERE COMMISSIONERS PER BOARD CALENDARS. COASTAL PARKS AND THE BIOLOGISTS AND JACOBS ARE ACTIVELY RESPONDING TO COMMENTS FROM WILDLIFE PROCEED TO THE U.S. A.C.E.. DEPARTMENT IS STILL NOT COMPLETE BASED ON THOSE COMMENTS. WE HAVE STANDING PROGRESS MEETINGS.

THE TEAM HAS PROGRESS MEETINGS EVERY OTHER THURSDAY. THE NEXT MEETING IS JANUARY 11TH, BUT WE WILL GET AN UPDATE ON THE PERMIT AND DESIGN INCLUDING SCHEDULES FOR BOTH, WHICH MEANS WE WILL HAVE THAT FOR THE JANUARY 17TH UPDATE . AND THEY KNOW THEY NEED TO GET THIS IN SOONER. BUT SAY THIS IS THE FIRST ONE OF THESE THAT WE ASKED FOR. THEY SHOULD BE COMING BACK TO THE COURT AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE ON A REGULAR BASIS. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT NOT GETTING IN SOONER, BUT

THAT'S JUST WHEN WE GOT IT. >> I APOLOGIZE FOR STATING THAT YOU SHOULD GET IT. WE HAVE BACK TO BACK MEETINGS NEXT WEEK. YESTERDAY WAS THE DEADLINE FOR THAT POSTING AS WELL. IF YOU GET IT TO US, YOU CAN GET ATTACHED BEFORE IT GOES OFF FRIDAY TO THE PUBLIC. IF YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE, AND

HE CHANGES. >> THAT'S WHY I'M TELLING. I WAS TALKING TO HIM, PERSONALLY. 2 YOUR 100% RIGHT, JUDGE.

>> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR WANT TO TALK TO HIM? I KNOW THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE, SO IF WE ALL HAVE A, ARE WE GOOD TO GO? ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

[2. Discuss and consider execution of Engineering Services Contract with Lockwood, Andrews, and Newnam (LAN) for RFQ No. 3248-23 Engineering Services and construction project management services for Padre Balli and IB Magee Beach Parks Improvements under RESTORE grant funding, and related matters.]

>> SO ONE AND TWO ARE THE SAME THING?

>> NO. NUMBER TWO IS COMING UP. MOVING ON INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO, DISCUSSING AND CONSIDERING THE AWARD AND EXECUTION OF ENGINEERING SERVICE CONTRACT L.A. IN . I

WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. >> THIS IS FOR THE STORE GRANT SEVEN HALF-MILLION DOLLAR GRANT WE GOT. WE BROUGHT THAT TO YOU, THE RECOMMENDATION. NOW, WE ARE BRINGING THE ACTUAL CONTRACT BACK TO YOU FOR APPROVAL. SO WE CAN GET NOTICE PROCEEDING AND START WORKING.

>> AGAIN, THIS IS ALL GRANT FUNDING, INCLUDING THE

ENGINEERING SERVICES. >> --

>> IT WAS A $7 MILLION GRANT? IT WAS PAID BY THE --

>> A MOTION TO AWARD AND EXECUTE THIS CONTRACT. SO, WE

HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. >> JUST REALLY QUICK . QUICKLY, JUST AGAIN, TELL THE PUBLIC AND THE COURT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO

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BE DOING WITH THIS, BECAUSE IT'S A BIG DEAL. I JUST WANT TO NOT LOWTHER IS SUPER FAST.

>> IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS. OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME, SIX OR SEVEN YEARS SINCE WE GOT THE AWARD TO GET TO THIS POINT. WE ARE GOING TO BE MAKING IMPROVEMENT THIS FUNDS. ENHANCING RECREATIONAL VEHICLES SIGNS. RECREATION AZAR CIVILITIES AND PUBLIC FACILITIES AND THAT'S LIKE THAT. THE BAD THING ABOUT THIS IS WHEN THIS BUDGET WAS ESTABLISHED WHEN I WROTE THIS THING SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE KNOW THE MONIES NOT GOING TO GO AS FAR AS IT WOULD. WE WILL WORK WITH THE ENGINEER, SCOTT HARRIS IS HERE. WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE TAKE A BASEMENT OUT OF THEM AND WE ADD ALTERNATES, THAT WAY WE CAN ALL PICK WHAT WE CAN AFFORD WITH THE BUDGET WE HAVE. THAT'S JUST THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THINGS COST SO MUCH

NOWADAYS. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE. THE MAC IF WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY

[3. Discuss and consider granting electrical utility easement and right-of-way, across County-owned property near East Cotter Avenue, to AEP Texas, Inc., and related matters.]

OPPOSE CAUSING SIGN . THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER THREE, DISCUSSING GRAND ELECTRICAL UTILITIES EASEMENT ACROSS THE COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY NEAR EAST CARTER

AVENUE TO AEP. >> THAT YOU TWO.

>> I DO NOT KNOW WE HAD THIS PROBLEM. GEORGE BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTENTION. THAT'S ONE .3 IN HOLDING THAT'S BEHIND THE PART THAT TAKING WITH US. THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT FROM HER , UNDER JUDGE JAMES E, THEY GOT THE PROPERTY AT ONE POINT THINK THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD A MUSEUM WITH A WORLD WAR II GUN MOUNTS OVER THERE. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE. AS WE ARE BUILDING THESE DORMS, THEY NEED UTILITY EASEMENTS TO GET OVER TO WHERE THEY ARE BUILDING THE COTTAGES AND DORMS. A STANDARD REQUEST

WE DO THESE. >> I WILL SECOND. MOTION AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSE, SAME SIGN.

>> HOLD ON . I NEED TO GO BACK. I APOLOGIZE. I HAVE A QUESTION I NEED TO ASK. WHAT ARE WE DOING ON PROJECT MANAGEMENT? ARE WE DIVIDING OR NOT PUTTING ALL UNDER ONE? -- THAT'S WHAT I NEEDS TO KNOW. THE NUMBERS PRETTY LARGE.

>> IS A BASIC NUMBER BUT IS THESE ADDITIVES. IF WE HAVE ADDITIONAL SURVEY WORK, THERE'S A NUMBER ALLOTTED FOR THAT. THE MAC THIS IS A LARGE NUMBER FOR JUST AN ENGINEERING CONTRACT.

I CAN'T REMEMBER. IT COMES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THE MAC

TREASURY. THE BP OIL SPILL. >> I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE NUMBER ON HERE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO ASK, I WOULD NOT MIND IF THAT WOULD COVER EVERYTHING.

>> THE NUMBER INCLUDES THE PROJECT MANAGER UNDERNEATH

THAT. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO

CLARIFY. >> I LET SCOTT SPEAK TO THE NUMBERS. THE BUDGET IS THE BUDGET. IT'S ALREADY BEEN

PREAPPROVED BY TREASURY. >> I THOUGHT IT WOULD INCLUDE EVERYTHING THAT WOULD BE NEEDED. USING ADDING TO

SURVEYS. >> I'M TALKING CONSTRUCTIVE 'S.

THE LINEAR FEET NOW THAT THE PRICE BY HAS CHANGED. THE ADDITIVES DO NOT -- IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALREADY GOT IT. HE'S GOING TO BE THIS UP CONTRACTOR OF THIS CONTRACT.

>> EVERYTHING ELSE GOES OUTSIDE THE ENGINEERING DOLLARS. EVERYTHING ELSE GOES TO CONSTRUCTION. BASIC THE ALMOST TWO THIRDS. UNDERNEATH THAT NUMBER.

>> IN THIS NUMBER, WHICH IS HUGE , THAT'S GOING TO BE PROJECT MANAGEMENT, WHICH HE'S GOING TO DO, WHICH IS GOING TO BE SEPARATE FROM ENGINEERING. WE LIKE TO DO THAT. WE DON'T WANT THE SAME PEOPLE OVERSEEING KIND OF LIKE THE FOX WATCHING

THE CHICKEN COOP. >> ANY SAW COSTS COVERED TO THIS. WHATEVER ELSE HAS TO BE DONE , THE SIZE AND THE BID .

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JUST ABOUT THE SURVEY THAT YOU SAID. IS THAT INCLUDED IN

THIS? >> ALL THE SOFT COSTS ARE IN HERE AND THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME CONTRACTORS AND LAND.

>> THE CONSTRUCTION BUDGET WILL BE OBVIOUSLY FROM THE REST OF

THE SEVEN POINT MILLION. >> CORRECT. MACBOOK PERCEPTION BUDGET IS MILLION. I DON'T REMEMBER FROM THE TOP OF MY HEAD. THAT'S WHY WAS ADDITIVES ALTERNATE ADDITIVES, BECAUSE WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD EVERYTHING WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO BUILD ONLY ORIGINALLY DID THIS BUDGET, BECAUSE THE BUDGET WAS DONE SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS AGO.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL SOFT BECAUSE WE HAD THAT COMING BEFORE. WE PUT THAT CLEARLY ON THE RECORD. ALL THE ENGINEERING AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND SURVEYING EVERYTHING UP TO CONSTRUCTION IS IN THIS AND NO

MORE. TURNKEY IS THE WORD. >> THEY ARE PRETTY STRICT WITH THIS. THIS BUDGET IS SOLID. WE HAVE TO MAKE AN ADDITION OR DEDUCTION , WE CANNOT DO MORE THAN 10% OVERALL. NOT ALIGN OUT OF THIS PROGRAM. THESE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY SOLID AND

PRETTY TIGHT. >> THIS IS GOT TO BE IT. NO MORE ADDITIONS TO THE SOFT COST BUT IF IT IS, I COMES OUT OF THIS NUMBER, DOES NOT GET ADDED. I WANT MORE FOR CONSTRUCTION JUST LIKE YOU DO FOR ENGINEERS AND PROJECT

MANAGERS. >> WE ALSO HAVE OUR GRANT ADMIN THAT'S ARTIE BEEN DONE. AS PART OF THE OVERALL WORK IS BEING DONE. GRANT WORKS IS DOING ADMIN ON THIS.

>> IS THAT HERE TOO >> YOU ALREADY AWARDED THAT.

THAT'S A SEPARATE NUMBER. >> WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER? YOU MAKE IT WAS ABOUT , I WANT TO SAY 190 SOMETHING , 190,000.

>> THAT'S BASED ON WHAT? WAS IT A PERCENTAGE? YES, THAT'S WHAT

THEY DO IT. >> IT'S ALL GRANT FUNDED.

>> I GET IT. , SO 7.5 MILLION, RIGHT? DIVIDED BY 7.5 MILLION,

THAT'S ABOUT 1/2%? >> YOU ARE DOING THE MATH. I

CAN'T DO IT. >> THAT'S FINE. I'M JUST

CHECKING. >> ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT TAXPAYER MONEY. IT'S PENALTY REWARD FROM THE BP OIL SPILL.

>> SO SETTLEMENT MONEY. >> IS STILL TAXPAYER MONEY.

>> I GET IT. THEN I PRINTING THIS MONEY. IT STILL TAXPAYER MONEY. THAT'S FINE. THIS IS IT. THIS IS ALL . EVERYTHING HAS BEEN AWARDED AND EVERYTHING ELSE GOES TO CONSTRUCTION.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

[4. Discuss and consider approval of renewal of the Lone Star Unmanned Aircraft Systems (LSUAS) Interlocal Agreement with Texas A&M.]

>> AND I GO. >> I SAID RUN.

>> ITEM NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE APPROVAL ON UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS PAID I BELIEVE WE HAVE MR. SANDERS

AND MR. PAYNE HERE AS WELL. >> I'M JUST HERE IF ANYBODY HAS

ANY QUESTIONS. >> I THINK WERE ALL IN FAVOR TO

MOTION TO PASS. >> SECOND.

>> EMOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

FERNANDEZ SECONDED. >> WE DO SOME OF THESE QUICK.

YOU HAD YOUR STAFF. I WAS OUT THERE. A FEW MONTHS AGO, IT WAS AMAZING TO SEE THESE. YOU THINK THE DRONES ARE KIND OF THE COMMERCIAL ONES THAT YOU CAN BUY AT THE STORE. THESE ARE HUGE. THE WINGSPAN 14 FEET WIDE.

>> THE ONE THING THAT'S REALLY COOL ABOUT THE PROGRAM, THERE ONE OF THEM AND IN THE NATION THE AND THAT NATIONAL AIRSPACE.

>> IN THE NATION ELFLEIN THE SPACE. I MEMBER THAT WAS

AWARDED AND A BIG DEAL. >> THE BEGINNING OF THIS CONTRACT WHEN IT WAS DONE WAY BACK IN 2018, A LOT OF STUFF HAS HAPPENED SINCE THEN. TECHNOLOGY HAS GOTTEN BIGGER AND BETTER. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE OAKS LIKE THESE IN OUR BACK POCKETS. SO IF WE NEED THEM, WE'VE GOT THEM , AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO LOOKING FOR THEM AT THAT TIME. SPEWING THE INFRARED AND ALL THE SENSORS THEY USED , EVEN DURING BROAD DAY, REMEMBER IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL SUNNY DAY. THEY WERE

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STILL ABLE TO USE THE DIFFERENT CAMERAS THEY HAD. THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT USING IT FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE JUST FOR ALL KINDS OF APPLICATIONS THAT THEY HAVE. MOST, IF NOT CALL THE PILOTS THERE MENTIONED THAT THEY ALL HAVE MILITARY EXPERIENCE. THEY WERE FORMALLY IN THE MILITARY FOR GETTING THE CIVILIAN JOBS AND NOW WORKING . IT'S A GREAT PARTNERSHIP. IT'S A GREAT RESOURCE TO HAVE. THE FACT THAT WE CAN GET THEM TO FLY OUT OF THE, THE COUNTY AIRPORT IN BROWNSTOWN EVER SO OFTEN IS PRETTY NEAT.

>> WE ARE GLAD TO HAVE THEM. >> SHRINKS.

>> GOOD JOB MAN, THANK YOU. >> HIM AGAIN EMOTION?

[5. Approve the Interlocal agreement for a period of one year beginning January 1, 2024 through December 31, 2024, between San Patricio County and Nueces County regarding sharing expenses for the Intoxilyzer Program and Technical Supervisor services.]

>> I DON'T NUMBER FIVE, MOVING ON, APPROVED THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR BEGINNING JANUARY 1, THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST BETWEEN SAN PATRICIO COUNTY? HAVE EMOTION PAID FOR BY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I WILL GO AHEAD AND THEY I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. ALL THOSE IN

FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. >> ANY OPPOSE, SAME SIGN. THE

[6. Receive update report from Lourdes Rivera, Grants Department, on all ARPA projects and all other matters.]

MOTION PASSES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM NUMBER SIX , I RECEIVE AN UPDATE FROM ANNA, NOT LULU ON OUR PROJECTS AND

OTHER MATTERS . >> GOOD MORNING.

>> IN MORNING, HOW ARE YOU. >> I'M GOOD. BASICALLY THE ATTACHMENT WAS KIND OF REVISED THAT WE HAVE BEEN SHOWING THESE PAST FEW DATES WHERE IT SHOWS THE ALLOCATED AND UN-ALLOCATED AND REALLOCATED AMOUNTS. BASED ON THAT, WE ALSO SENT AN ATTACHMENT, EARNING AN ATTACHMENT WE DID GET A REFUND ON ONE OF THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS. THAT'S 49,000. THAT'S AVAILABLE. WAS ONE OF THE ATTACHMENTS. THE THIRD ATTACHMENT WAS HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE BREAKDOWN OF HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE REALLOCATED AMOUNTS FOR THE PIPING. THIS WILL PIPING AND THE REALLOCATION OF THE COUNTY

COURTHOUSE RULES. >> IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON

THOSE. >> WHEN I GAVE THE WORK ON THE FULL AMOUNT THAT WAS UNALLOCATED , AND REALLOCATED PROBABLY TO THE. IT'S 8,000,400 FOR 21 , RIGHT?

>> ON THAT DATE. >> ON JULY 26, 2023.

>> SO RIGHT NOW, WE ARE KIND OF ALLOCATING THE 4,000,297 TO FIVE 588. AND IT'S AT 4 MILLION -- THAT TAKES AWAY ALL THE $8 MILLION THAT WE UNALLOCATED FOR THE PROJECTS,

RIGHT? >> THAT WE USE OF EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR THE BALANCE AT THE BOTTOM, THE 49,000.

>> YES, AT THAT TIME. >> SO, I'M GLAD WE FINALLY HAVE SOMETHING TO SHOW THE ALLEGATIONS. THE 49,000 , YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE THE TO USE THE MONEY FOR AT LEAST 550,000 FOR THE GENTLEMAN. I GUESS WHEN ONE COMES, I'M TO WORK IT OUT IN A DIFFERENT AREA AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE. HE'S GOING TO TRY TO COVER THIS THING OUT TO.

>> WE STILL CAN USE THE MONEY FOR THE JAIL ROOM.

>> WERE ON ALLOCATING AS LONG AS THERE ALLOCATED BY DECEMBER

31ST, 20. >> IS UNDER 31ST.

>> IS THE FINAL ALLOCATION. >> TO BECOME UNALLOCATED

BECOME LEFT OVER. >> LEFT OVER, JOBS ARE

COMPLETED. >> I REALLY APPRECIATE MOVING

FORWARD. >> I APPRECIATE THIS.

>> PROBABLY ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

>> GOING TO GO OVER THIS? HAVE WE GOTTEN A REPORT BACK ON WHAT WE THINK WE NEED FOR THE ROOF YET.

>> IT'S GOING ON THE NEXT ONE.

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>> NEXT MEETING ? >> WE HEARD THE TEXAS STATE?

>> RESPONDED. >> THIS IS ROUGHLY THE NUMBERS

WE HAVE . >> WE WERE BASICALLY ON THIS JUST SHOWING WHERE WE CAME FROM THIS ALLOCATED TO THE SEWER PIPES WHERE WE FROM THE ALLOCATED TO THE PROJECT. THE ROOF PROJECT FROM THE COURTHOUSE AT THE JAIL OR WHATEVER, THIS IS ALL THE MONEY WE HAVE NOT -- WE HAD THE POTENTIAL FUNDS THAT IS GOING TO BE FOR ANOTHER ITEM WE HAVE FOR GRANT WORKS IN THEIR CONTRACTS. THESE ARE ALL THREE SEPARATE THINGS THAT ARE VERY CONFUSING WHEN HE TRIED TO DO THEM ALL AS ONE. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW. YOU ASK TO BREAK DOWN HOW IT CAME ABOUT.

>> OTHER THAN THAT RIGHT NOW, AND OUR BREAK DOWN, THE ONLY UNALLOCATED FUNDS WE HAVE IS THE 49,000 THAT

>> CORRECT. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD CALL I WILL . >> WAS ON THAT ITEM.

[7. Discuss and consider allocating $300,000 Precinct 2 ARPA funds for 'Colonias Septic System Electrical Improvements'.]

>> MOVING ON. THIS IS THE REPORT NUMBER SEVEN .

ALLOCATING FOR 300,000 ON -- THAT IS ON YOUR ALLOCATED FUNDS. THIS IS NOT ANYTHING ELSE. I ASSUME IT WOULD BE

YOUR MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE EMOTION SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> I KNOW IS FROM WHAT AREA, COMMISSIONER? JUST IN GENERAL?

PROJECT . >> THAT WE NEED TO DESIGNATE

THOSE JUST TO BE SPECIFIC? >> WHAT DID ARPA SAY? DO WE

HAVE TO DO THAT ON THE BOAT? >> WE WILL MAKE SURE WE DO IT FOR THE REPORT, EACH ONE IS IDENTIFIED SEPARATELY, YES.

>> I DID MINE LIKE LONDON DRAINAGE. BUT TO SPECIFICALLY ALLOCATE THE PROJECTS, DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT JUST TO BE

SPECIFIC. >> THAT WE HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER ? CAN WE GO TO ANOTHER WAS?

>> AS LONG AS THEY ARE IDENTIFIED, PRESENTED --

INDISCERNIBLE ] >> YOUR ALLOCATING IT TO A SPECIFIC LOCATION. EXTRAS RIGHT AWAY , BUT THE PRESENT

FORM. >> YOU'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING IT

IN. >> YOU'RE PUTTING IN

ELECTRICAL. >> I THINK YOU MADE THE MOTION.

I DON'T KNOW WHO SECONDED IT.

>> YOU WANT TO MEND YOUR MOTION TO SPECIFICALLY BENEFIT THE

PROJECT. >> TO IDENTIFY THE PROJECT UNDER THAT ALLOCATION FOR

>> WE HAVE EMOTION FROM COMMISSIONER GONZALES, SECONDED

BY COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[8. Discuss and consider approving International Consulting Engineers' (ICE) request to include Ardurra, Inc. as a subcontractor for ARPA Projects and approve Order.]

PASSES. >> MOVING INTO ANNA NUMBER

EIGHT, -- >> HOW DOES THAT WORK?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. MICHAEL AND JENNY TALKED.

WE LET THEM EXPLAIN. >> I CHECKED WITH THE ATTORNEY

AND MICHAEL . >> IS IT OKAY, JENNY AND MICHAEL. EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT?

>> THIS IS ITEM EIGHT . I BELIEVE WE DISCUSSED THIS.

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>> THE CURRENT CONTRACT WE STATE THEY ARE ABOUT TO OBJECT IN CERTAIN PORTIONS OF THE WORK. -- THAT'S WITH ORDERS GOING TO EFFECTUATE. IT ALSO HOLDS THE CONTRACTOR THAT THE ORIGINAL -- IS A CONSCIOUS WILL BE BETWEEN EYES

AND ALDORA. >> WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, WE FOUND THE RECORDS AT THE, FROM EVERY SPECIFIC JOB AND GET APPROVAL FROM THE COURT. THEY SAID NOW IT'S GOING TO GO BACK TO EVERY -- THAT OTHER CONTRACTS THAT YOU HAVE IF YOU HAVE AN ENGINEER THAT NEEDS THE CONTRACT SOME OF THE WORK, THE USED A SIMILAR ORDER FOR THEIR MASTER SERVICE AGREEMENT AND THE PROJECTS WORK AUTHORIZATION THAT CAN BE

APPLIED . >> I WILL ACCEPT THE MOTION.

WE HAVE EMOTION SECOND TO APPROVE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR,

[9. Discuss and consider selection of Ardurra, Inc. for engineering services for Precinct 2 colonias septic system electrical improvements.]

SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSE, SAY SIDE. THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU.

ITEM NUMBER NINE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER SELECTION ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR YOUR PRECINCT TO COLONIALISTS UPTON. I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE WE JUST LOADED ON THOSE ELECTRICAL IMPROVEMENTS.

>> MY APOLOGIES. >> AND THE MONIES -- WE HAVE EMOTION AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSE

[10. Receive FEMA reimbursement update report from Grants Director, Anna Velasquez, and all other matters. ]

SAY SIDE. MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER 10, REIMBURSEMENTS UPDATE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ATTACHMENT? >> THE ONE ATTACHMENT WITH REIMBURSEMENT REQUESTS , THESE OTHER WORDS FOR REIMBURSEMENT , THESE ARE BASICALLY THE SAME REIMBURSEMENTS THAT WE HAD IN THE LAST PRESENTATION OF THE. IF YOU SEE THE WORK WILL STEP , EXCESS COMPLETE. WHEN IT'S COMPLETE, THAT MEANS YOU HAVE ALREADY REFUNDED AND REIMBURSE THE COUNTY . WITH THIS PARTICULAR OF THE COVID-19, IT WAS ACTUALLY UP FRONT MONEY.

SO WE REALLY DID NOT GET REIMBURSEMENT FROM IT, BECAUSE WE GOT UP FRONT MONEY. BUT THIS WAS TOWARDS THAT UP FRONT

MONEY. >> IT SHOWING THAT WE HAVE COMPLETED THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE AND THEY HAVE ACCEPTED OUR EXPENSES OUT OF THAT. WE MAKE IT THERE WAS AN ADJUSTMENT, THAT'S THE ADJUSTMENT AMOUNT. SO, THE TOTAL ELIGIBLE IS WHAT IS TOWARDS THE UP FRONT MONEY TO THE ADVANCE MONEY.

>> AND WHAT WAS SOME OF -- >> AND JUST WHAT DID THEY DENY

AND HOW MUCH DID THEY DENY? >> IS MY QUESTION.

>> I WAS SAID IN THESE MEETINGS --

>> WE HAD A REPORT BACK ABOUT A MONTH AGO FROM FEMA SAYING THEY WERE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR CERTAIN THINGS BECAUSE THEY

NEED MORE INFORMATION. >> THAT SPENDING. EVERYTHING IS PENDING. THE MCAFEE HAS EXPENSIVE AUGMENTATION WITH

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YOU, THAT MEANS THEY REQUESTED SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND WE SUBMITTED IT AND THEY ARE STILL REVIEWING IT. IT IS NOT A COMPLETE ITEM. SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FIGHT HIM

NUMBER IS GOING TO BE. >> THAT WE KNOW THOSE ITEMS

ARE? IT DOES NOT SAY IT HERE. >> DOROTHY OUTRIGHT DENIED

ANYTHING. >> THE BILLS WERE OUTRIGHT

DENIED. >> NUMBER EIGHT .

>> NUMBER EIGHT? >> NUMBER EIGHT, WE SUBMITTED.

THE MAIL FOR THE RMD SPECTRUM. >> IT WAS NUMBER NINE.

>> I APOLOGIZE. I FORGOT TO BREAK DOWN --

>> THEN WHAT'S NUMBER ONE? >> I CAN COME BACK AND GET THAT

PAPERWORK. >> THE ONLY THREE THAT ARE PENDING, THE REST ARE COMPLETE.

>> WAS THE ADJUSTED AMOUNT FOR NUMBER ONE?

>> THAT NEXUS , THE SOFTWARE. WE SUBMITTED IT WITH ANOTHER APPLICATION. WHAT WASN'T SUBMITTED WAS NOT APPROVED ON THESE. WE DID SUBMIT ANOTHER APPLICATION, BECAUSE ON THIS PARTICULAR GRANT AWARD WAS FOR VACCINATION ONLY. IF IT WAS ANYTHING RELATED TO TESTING , IT WAS NOT APPROVED.

>> SO, THE ONE THING WE KNOW THAT'S BEEN REJECTED HAS BEEN THE MEALS FOR THE 69,000, RIGHT?

>> CORRECT. >> WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE $24,000 IS, YOU NEED TO GO LOOK ?

>> IT'S NOT FINAL YET. >> THE ONLY FINAL WAS THE

69,000 IN MEALS. >> AND THE 122 ON THE FIRST ONE. THUS THE SOFTWARE. WE APPLIED FOR IT. WE DID GET AN AWARD IN LATE NOVEMBER FOR THE APPLICATION THAT WE SUBMITTED FOR OTHER EXPENSE IS THE WERE NOT APPROVED THROUGH THE VACCINATION GRANT. THAT WAS $1,981,531.76. THOSE, WE HAVE TO SUBMIT REQUESTS FOR REIMBURSEMENT. WE HAVE THE BACKUP DEGRADATION FOR THE PAYMENT AND GO BACK AGAIN.

>> I'M CONFUSED NOW. IT'S AN ADDITIONAL 1.9 MILLION?

>> THE SECOND ATTACHMENT. IF THEY WERE NOT RELATED TO VACCINATION, THEY WERE NOT APPROVED THROUGH THE FEMA ADVANCE , THE 2.2 MILLION. IN -- WE DID GET THE AWARD FOR

THE 1.9 MILLION. >>, SURE ARE WE? SORRY , THIS IS GETTING CONFUSING. WE KNOW THE MEALS HAVE BEEN REJECTED.

WE KNOW YOU REAPPLIED FOR THE 122 SOMEWHERE ELSE. THAT'S NOT BEEN TALKED ABOUT YET OR DECIDED UPON. WE DON'T KNOW THE 24,000 IS. BUT THEN IT'S 1.9 ON THE SECOND SHEET THAT WE JUST GOT. ANOTHER ONE .9 IN ADDITION TO THE 2 MILLION.

>> IT COULD OFFSET THE 2 MILLION.

>> WE DID GET AN ADVANCE ON THE 2 MILLION. ONLY SO MUCH HAS BEEN APPROVED SO FAR. BUT WE DID APPLY FOR THE 2.2 MILLION.

WE GOT ONE .9 MILLION APPROVED. THE FORCED ACCOUNT

LABOR OVERTIME . >> IT WAS APPROVED.

>> HAS BEEN APPROVED. >> AND REQUESTING THE EMBARRASSMENT LIKE THEY DID ON THE OTHER ONE. THEY WENT THROUGH THE STUFF AND ALL THE ITEMS AND THEY SAID , OKAY, THAT'S ELIGIBLE, BUT THEN THEY -- WE HAVE TO REQUEST REIMBURSEMENT AND GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AGAIN.

>> AGAIN, WHEN WILL WE KNOW HOW SHORT THE COUNTY IS OR HOW NOT SHORT THE COUNTY IS BASED ON YOUR BEST MATH? THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT BOILED DOWN TO.

>> WE CAN PROVIDE ANOTHER DAY IN MARCH AND SEE WHERE WE ARE AT.

ALSO LOOKS HE >> KNOW. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO

PROVIDE ALL THE DOCUMENTS. >> 2 MILLION+1.9 MILLION DIXIE OR 2 MILLION INCLUDING THE ONE .9 MILLION ? SO WE'RE TALKING THIS FOR MILLION IN EXPENSES OR TRYING TO GET REIMBURSED, 2 MILLION WE HAVE UP FRONT, AND ANOTHER 2 MILLION?

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>> THE 2 MILLION WAS AN ESTIMATE WE WOULD HAVE THAT EXPENSE. THE 2 MILLION WE RECEIVED AN ADVANCE ON WAS ONLY FOR VACCINATION. THAT'S WHAT WE TOLD HIM THIS IS WHERE WE GOING TO SPEND. WE HAVE NOT SPENT 2 MILLION TOWARDS VACCINATIONS. WE HAVE SPENT 2 MILLION.

>> BUT WE HAVE SPENT THE 2 MILLION, RIGHT? HE

>> YES. WE COULD BE TESTING.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MONEY WENT TO, REALLY. TO TELL US HOW MONEY WAS ACTUALLY SPENT, EXCEPT FOR THE MONEY THAT WENT TO VACCINATION THAT THERE

PROVED. RIGHT? >> SOME OF THE RECEIPTS WERE TURNED IN AND THEY WERE NOT ELIGIBLE FENCES. I THINK THOSE SAME RECEIPTS WILL BE TURNED IN AGAINST THOSE GRANTS

THAT POSSIBLY IS ELIGIBLE. >> IF THE RECEIPT WAS SUBMITTED UNDER THE PATIENT, BUT IT WAS STATED AS TESTING , STILL COVERED, BUT IT WAS TESTING , THEN THEY REJECTED IT. SO WE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR ALL OTHER EXPENSES RELATED TO COVID-19 FOR THEM TO REVIEW. NOW EVERY EXPENSE STILL HAS TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE. SOME WILL GET REJECTED AND SOMEONE. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT KIND OF BACKUP THE PATIENT THEY WANT TO SEE AND THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE.

>> WHEN ALL OF THIS IS DONE I WILL WE GET A LIST OF WHAT WAS EJECTED BY DIXIE AND HOW MUCH?

>> I WILL BRING MORE DETAIL. I'M.

>> THERE ALL MY MEETING CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT THE , THIS IS COMMON IN EMERGENT NEWS. A CAN SOMETIMES TAKE YEARS TO GET ALL THIS DONE. I KNOW I WANT IT NOW AND IN BLACK AND WHITE. THIS WAS APPROVED, THIS WAS NOT, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE, THIS IS WHAT WE OWE. BUT IT IS NOT THE SIMPLE. I ENCOURAGE EVERY ORGANIZATION , THIS IS THE PROCESS. IT IS A LONG PROCESS.

>> IS VERY LONG THAT PROCESS. HAD REGAINED. MANY YEARS AGO,

TOOK THE TO GET THE RESULT. >> DESMET

>> WE WILL PROBABLY BE ABLE TO USE THIS . THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE $2 MILLION FOR WE AS ANYTHING ELSE.

>> IS NOT THAT WE DIDN'T. I THINK WE TURNED IT IN, BUT THEY'RE NOT. THE VACCINE ON THE 2 MILLION.

>> ACTUALLY HAS TO BE RELATED ON VACCINATIONS. WE MAY HAVE SPENT $2 MILLION, BUT IT WAS NOT ALL TOWARDS VACCINATIONS.

>> OR TESTING. >> AND MARCH, BRING BACK

ANOTHER REPORT. >> I WILL TRY TO DO IT ON A QUARTERLY BASIS WITH MORE DETAIL. I KNOW YOU WORK WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AS WELL AND FUTURE EMERGENCIES. A LOT OF THIS SOMETIMES IS DOCUMENTATION. IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMEONE EATING THERE FOLLOWING THE PAPER TRAIL , THIS IS HOW MISTAKES HAPPEN, THIS IS THE COUNTY. I WANT TO COMMEND THE, BECAUSE I KNOW SHE'S GOING TO BE VERY HARDHEADED ABOUT THAT AND MEETING THE PEOPLE AT THEIR IN THE DOCUMENTATION. IT'S WHAT THE COUNTY NEEDS. IT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE TO BE REIMBURSED.

>> SOME OF IT, SINCE IT WAS DURING COVID, WE WILL RECEIVE A LOT OF THE PICTURES . AND THEY WERE INELIGIBLE. SOME THINGS LIKE THAT WILL BE REJECTED, BECAUSE THE DATE IS NOT THERE, WE CANNOT PROVE THAT WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS , THAT HAS TO BE VERY CLEAR. THAT'S WHAT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS GOING TO BE ATTEMPTING TO HAVE CORRECTED .

>> ON THE SIDE IS, COMMISSIONERS, AND YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN YOUR AREA, YOU ORDER SOMETHING YOU WANT OR DEMAND NOTHING OUT THERE. HELPFUL FOLLOW-UP AND KEEP THE RECEIPTS AND TURN THEM IN. PAPER TRAILS AND EVERYTHING.

DOCUMENTATION IS EVERYTHING IN THIS KIND OF STUFF.

>>". EVEN THOUGH IT'S AN EMERGENCY, DID YOU SHOW ME THE EMAIL OR CONTACT THAT HE DID ATTEMPT. SOMETIMES, THE

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PERSONNEL IS NO LONGER WITH US.

>> MARCH WILL BE ANOTHER OF DATE.

[11. Discuss and consider the establishment of the Nueces County Health Unit pursuant to Texas Health and Safety Code Sec. 121.004 and approve Order; and other related matters.]

>> THANK YOU. >> ITEM NUMBER 11, THIS IS AN CONSIDER ESTABLISHMENT OF THE HEALTH COUNTY UNIT . SECTION 121.00 FOUR , PROVE THAT ORDER AND RELATED MATTERS. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS TO WORK ON THE QUITE EXTENSIVELY . I THINK SHE HAS SAID WE ARE READY TO GO ON IMPROVING START WOULD

NOT BE UNTIL APRIL 1ST. >> I BELIEVE I HAVE A FINAL DRAFT. IF YOU HAVE ONE IN BACKUP, PLEASE DISREGARD THAT, I WILL CIRCULATE AN UNEDITED VERSION OF THE ORDER.

>> JUST ONE QUESTION ON THIS IN GENERAL. OVERALL FOR AN CHRISTIAN GONZALES AND KIND ATTORNEY AND EVERYONE ELSE FOR WORKING ON THIS. I GUESS THIS IS AS BINDING AS BINDING CAN GET. THINGS CHANGE WITHIN OUR COUNTY. WE CAN ALWAYS KIND OF

UNDO THIS. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. >> THIS IS A HEALTH UNIT, NOT DISTRICT . IS A VERY CLEAR DIFFERENCE IN THE TWO. YES.

>> ALEX OF THE MOTION. A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDER WITH CORRECTED -- CONTRACT, I GUESS THAT YOU HAVE CORRECT ?

CORRECTED ORDER. >> LIES THE FONT SO WE ARE DIXIE I HAVE A HARD TIME READING THIS. IT'S LIKE AND .

THAT NEED TO BE IN THEIR, I GUESS I WOULD ASK THAT?

>> IS A MAJOR SIMPLE MINOR TYPOS.

>> I DON'T KNOW. I JUST RECEIVED THE CORRECTED DOCUMENT THIS MORNING. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT CHANGES EXACTLY ARE IN

THEIR, BUT I CAN -- >> MAYBE BRING THAT BACK AT THE NEGATIVE ? I KIND OF WOULD LIKE TO KNOW BEFORE WE VOTE.

>> I STILL NEED A LENGTHY X DONATION ON IT TOO. WE WENT ON WHAT DIXIE JUST THE NAME OF THE UNIT?

>> IN ORDER TO CREATE THE ORDER. THE MAC AND IMPROVE THE

ORDER. >> SHE JUST HAD SOME LAST-MINUTE CHANGES BEFORE VOTING ON THING WITH LAST MINUTE CHANGES. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO -- MEANING OF THIS ORDER AND WHAT IT'S ALL

SAYING. >> SO DO YOU WANT TO PULL THAT

ITEM INTO EXECUTIVE? >> I JUST WANT YOU TO EXPLAIN

IT. >> WE CAN DO IT OUT HERE AFTER EXECUTIVE , MAYBE GET THE INFORMATION.

>> DOES NOT HAVE TO BE EXECUTIVE. I DON'T CARE WHERE WE DO IT, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND IT.

[12. Discuss and consider upcoming Commissioners Court meeting date(s), workshop date(s), and related matters.]

NUMBER 12 , DISCUSSING AND CONSIDERING UPCOMING COMMISSIONERS MEETING DATE , WORKSHOPS AND MATTERS. I KNOW

THERE'S A CONFLICT FOR JUNE. >> JUDGE, CAN I APOLOGIZE TO THE WORK. I DID NOT NOTE THE TWO BACK-TO-BACK MEETINGS IN JUNE. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COURT THAT WE MOVE THE JUNE 12 MEETING TO TUESDAY, JUNE 18TH , BECAUSE JUNE 19TH IS JUNETEENTH. AND JUNE 26TH, I BELIEVE IS THE COMMISSIONERS CONFERENCE, COMMISSIONER AND COUNTY JUDGE CONFERENCE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WE CAN MOVE WEDNESDAY, JUNE 12, TO TUESDAY, JUNE 18TH IF NO ONE HAS OBJECTION TO THAT, PLEASE.

>> WEDNESDAY, JUNE 12, TO TUESDAY, JUNE 18TH. IF SOMEONE DOES NOT LIKE JUNE 18TH, IS JUST ANOTHER ONE THAT I'VE COME UP WITH. JUNE 19TH AND JUNE 26 IS OUT. IT WOULD BE MY

MOTION. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION DIXIE ANYBODY HAVE A CONFLICT

WITH THAT PROBLEM? >> I JUST MAY HAVE TO ZOOM IN

FOR THAT MEETING. >> AS LONG AS I GET A SIGNAL OF CLIMATE TIME-OUT AND ZOOM IN. AS LONG AS EVERYONE ELSE'S

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HERE, TO ZOOM IN HALF >> I'M GOOD WITH THAT. IF WE NEED TO MOVE IT, WE NEED TO MOVE IT.

>> AS LONG AS THERE'S THREE PEOPLE HERE.

>> AS LONG AS MAY HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

>> THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION DIXIE OR DO WE JUST MOVE

IT. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I ANY OPPOSE, SAME SIGN. WE ARE MOVING OUR JUNE 12 TO JUNE

18TH. >> THANK YOU.

[1. Discuss and consider approval of Memorandum of Understanding between Nueces County and Youth Odyssey for programs relating to the Truancy Prevention Initiative. Programs will be fully funded through grant funding with no cash match.]

>> MOVING ON TO ITEM B1 , DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE APPROVAL , THE OASIS COUNTY AND YOUTH ODYSSEY. RELATING TO TRUANCY, THIS IS A NO CASH MATCH, EVEN -- I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANNA TO EXPLAIN THE CASH MATCH . I MAKE THE MOTION

TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANNA IS BACK. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HER TO SAY NO CASH MATCH, THERE IS NO MATCHING FUNDING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY. ANY OPPOSE, SAME SIDE , MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON TO PUBLIC WORKS, RECEIVING

[1. Receive update from Director of Public Works, County Engineer, regarding the Nueces County Courthouse and Jail roof project including the sewage piping project, and other related matters.]

UPDATES FOR REGARDING COURTHOUSE PROJECT IN GENERAL PROJECT. INCLUDING YOUR PIPING PROJECT AND OTHER

HAND OUT -- >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. WE ARE GOING TO MAKE TWO PRESENTATIONS TODAY .

ONE IS FOR THE ROOF PROJECT. AND GIVING A PRESENTATION ON

THE ROOF PROJECT. >> THANK YOU. COMPLETING THE DOCUMENTS FOR REROOFING THE COURTHOUSE , ALSO INCLUDES REPLACING SKYLIGHT, ALSO INCLUDES THE ROOF OVER THE BREEZEWAY INTO THE JAIL AND ALSO INCLUDES THE JAIL.

>> CAN I INTERRUPT YOU VERY QUICKLY. HE WANTED THIS A WHILE

BACK, RIGHT QUICKLY >> YES. WE VOTED -- I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T WANT US TO THINK WE DID A DUPLICATION. WE WERE NOT AWARE THIS WAS ALREADY DONE WHEN WE ASKED THE TEXAS ROOFING STATE.

>> I THINK THE OTHER EFFORT WAS FOR THE JAIL ONLY.

>> IN ANY CASE, I THINK YOU'VE JUST BEEN DISTRIBUTED OF THE SUMMARY OF THE COST ESTIMATE THAT WE HAVE PREPARED SOME TIME AGO. IT'S BEEN UPDATED PERSONAL VALUES. IT'S A COMPLETE TEAR OFF DOWN TO THE BARE CONCRETE INSTALLATION.

>> I THINK, JUDGE, WAS NOT DUPLICATE. I THINK WE WANTED TO BRING IN SOMEONE WHO HAD A SPECIFIC ROOFING EXPERIENCE TO MAKE SURE WE WERE NOT , NO OFFENSE, BUT OVERDOING AND THAT WE WERE DOING ONLY WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO FOR THAT ROOF. I DO THINK IT WAS INTENTIONAL, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW.

>> THESE PRICES. >> WE WERE GOING TO SPEND $25,000 TO BEFORE WE SPEND 10 THE WAY WE NEEDED TO.

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>> HAVE YOU BEEN CONTACTED BY THAT PERSON AT ALL ?

>> WE SENT IT THE DAY WE SIGNED IN COURT.

>> I REACHED OUT TWICE MYSELF.

>> I CAN REACH OUT. I JUST DO NOT KNOW YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE.

I WILL BE HAPPY TO REACH OUT. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE SPENDING $10 MILLION UNTIL WE HAVE THAT

CONSULTANT AND LOOK AT IT. >> WE WILL FINISH WHAT THEY WORKED ON.

YOU AN UPDATE ON THE ESTIMATES. HONESTLY, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THIS IS IS ON YOUR DELIBERATIONS. OBVIOUSLY, YOU ALTERNATIVES, THAT TIME. WE WILL JUST SAY WHEN WE DID OUR PROJECT, WE EVALUATED LESSER COST ALTERNATIVES LIKE AN OVERLAY THEIR VARIOUS TECHNOLOGIES HE CAN DO TO REJUVENATE A ROOF TO OVERLAY A ROOF . THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WILL SAY THAT GIVES YOU 10 YEARS TO PEOPLE THAT WILL SAY IF THEY WILL GIVE YOU 20 YEARS. IN FACT MATTER OF HOURS. , AT SOME POINT, EVEN BY CODE, AT SOME POINT, YOU REACH A POSITION WHERE THERE'S REALLY NO ALTERNATIVE BUT TO LEAVE RACE THE ROOF. THAT'S OUR OPINION IS THAT THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE WITH THIS ROOF NOW. ANY KIND OF OVERLAY WILL BE SHORT-LIVED. ADD WHAT MAY NOT PROVIDE THE SERVICE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE AND THAT THE BUILDING DESERVE. WE FOUND NO GOOD ALTERNATIVE UNDER THE COMPLETE TEAR OFF. THE NEW CODES PERMIT YOU TO DO, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, TO OVERLAYS, IS THAT RIGHT XE TO OVERLAYS ON THE ROOF, AND THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO TAKE IT OFF. CONTINUING OVERLAYS ON THE ROOF BASICALLY DEGRADES THE ROOF AND IS NOT ACCEPTED BY CODE.

WE FOUND IN OUR EVALUATIONS THAT'S OUR OPINION THAT THE PROPER THING TO DO IS A COMPLETE REROOF . YOU WILL GET BETTER ENERGY PERFORMANCE IN THE PROCESS OVERLAYING DOES NOT CHANGE THE INSTALLATION AND ALL THIS BASICALLY GIVES YOU NEW HIRE PERFORMANCE INSULATION THAT THE BUILDING WILL BENEFIT FROM. IT WILL GIVE YOU A ROOF THAT WILL SERVE MANY MANY YEARS

IN THE FUTURE. >> AND ASK A QUESTION? I THOUGHT THE TOTAL NEW ROOF WAS THE COURTHOUSE BUILDING AND WE CAN DO A MAINTENANCE AND NO RELAY POSSIBLY ON THE JAIL BUILDINGS , BECAUSE THEY WERE ONLY A SINGLE ROOF WE COULD DO THAT PROCESS TO MAINTAIN AND MAYBE EXTEND THE LIFE ON.

>> I THINK THAT IS CORRECT. THE DOCUMENTS WE PREPARED WERE

COMPLETE OVERLAY -- >> COMPLETE NEW ROOF EVEN FOR THE JAILS. THIS PRICE IS VERY HIGH.

>> THE TOTAL IS. >> BUT IT'S BROKEN OUT. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TAKE OUT THE JAIL ENTIRELY AND NOT BAD AT ALL AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. IT'S ENTIRELY ACCORDING TO YOUR JUDGMENT, WHAT YOU WANT WITH THE COURTHOUSE.

>> THIS, JUDGE, IS EXACTLY WHY WE MAKE THE DECISION TO HIRE THE PERSON. I DON'T HAVE A CLUE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY NEED. THIS IS WHY THE COURT MADE THAT DECISION. I'M SENDING AN EMAIL OUT AND REACHING ON TELL THEM TO CONTACT YOUR OFFICE AND I WILL CALL THEM AS WELL TOO. I NEED A

LITTLE HELP ON THIS. >> WHEN WE DID THE 25,000, WE APPROVED FOR HIM TO COME IN THE PREVIOUS COURT THAT WE ALREADY

APPROVED. >> WE ALREADY HAVE ONE ALREADY.

ONE, UNDERSTANDING WAS THESE NUMBERS WERE OLD. THIS HAD BEEN DONE A LONG TIME AGO. WHEN I GOT THE DOCUMENT YESTERDAY, IT SAYS IT WAS DONE FAIRLY RECENTLY.

>> I THINK MOST OF THE WORK WE DID WAS JUST THAT SUMMER.

MAYBE SIX MONTHS OLD. >> ONE CAN PROBABLY ANSWER THE QUESTION. THE MIKE WHAT ROOFER WAS INVOLVED IN MAKING THIS DETERMINATION. WHAT ROOFING EXPERT DIGITAL CONSULT WHEN YOU'RE COMING UP WITH WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

>> I THINK COMMISSIONERS COURT HAVE HIRED A PREVIOUS ROOFING CONTRACTOR PRIOR TO THIS PROJECT. I THINK IT'S

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AMERITECH. >> IT WAS SOME CONTRACTOR THAT CAME IN AND DID AN ASSESSMENT ON THE ROOF.

>> BEST THE ONE YOU HAD THAT WAS 2021 OR SOMETHING. WE WERE TOLD US THE REASON OR THE OTHER. BECAUSE THE AGE AND

DATE OF IT WAS SOLD. >> IT WAS THE YEAR BEFORE YOU CAME ON, JUDGE. I THOUGHT WE DID A COMPLETE ASSESSMENT ON THE WHOLE ROOF. AT FIRST, WE HAD, WITH 5 MILLION OR WHATEVER. AND NOW IT'S SAYING WE ARE NOT. OF COURSE, THE MORE. THE JAIL, WE DON'T HAVE TO INCLUDE THE JAIL , I CAN BE ONE OF YOUR MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS, YOU KNOW.

>> TALK INTO THE MICROPHONE. THEY CANNOT HEAR YOU ONLINE.

>> I THINK THAT'S THE REASON WHY ON THE SUMMARY SHEET, COMMISSIONERS UNDER BUILDING NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS THE MAINTENANCE COURTHOUSE , THERE'S AN ESTIMATED COST OF ABOUT 3.4. AND FOR THE SKYLIGHTS, BECAUSE SKYLIGHTS , WE HAVE THEM LOOKING AT THE SKYLIGHTS.

>> WILL THAT BE A REPLACEMENT OF THOSE?

>> YES. THIS WAS BACK IN THE 1970S. RIGHT NOW , THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE DONE FOR THIS PROJECT. AND THE OTHER PART IS THE BUILDINGS TWO AND THREE COLLEGES THE OLDER JAIL .

THAT'S ABOUT 1.2 OR ONE POINT THREE. AND THE BUILDING WHICH IS THE NEW JAIL, TWO POINT FOUR.

>> IT'S IN MY UNDERSTANDING, THE GENERAL ARE A ONE TIME ROOF. THERE COULD BE A MAINTENANCE APPLIED TO THEM

THAT WOULD EXTEND THE LIGHT. >> REALLY WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT SKYLIGHT BUILDING ONE, THOSE ARE THE MAIN BUILDING, RIGHT ? WE'RE TALKING $6 MILLION OR 6,000,000.5?

>> BEFORE THE TOWER? >> DON'T LEAVE THE TOWER.

>> IT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN SIX.

>> IS A PORTION OF BUILDING TWO AND THREE. BUILDINGS TWO AND THREE IS THE BREEZEWAY AND CENTRAL PLAN AND THE OLD JAIL.

SO, REALLY THE BREEZEWAY CENTRAL PLANT WHAT WE CALL UTILITY REPRESENTS MAY BE A QUARTER OR A THIRD OF THAT 1.2 MILLION. THIS SHOULD BE ABOUT 300,000 OR SO. SO WHAT WE ARE SAYING NOW IS 3.8 FOR THE ROOFING OR THROUGH BY A ROUGHLY FOR THE SKYLIGHT. THAT WOULD TAKE ALL OF THE ORIGINAL ROOMS REDONE AND THEN THE JAIL FOR THE OVERRULING. I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING IT ROLLED IN. WE ARE JUST FOR DISCUSSION THIS MORNING WE REALIZED THERE HAD BEEN BROKEN OUT.

>> IS A PIECE OF THE THIRD ITEM. I PRESHAPED UPDATE AND I THINK WERE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSULT THE OTHER PERSON. THE ROOFING IS DONE, IF WE CAN MOVE ON I GUESS TO THE TYPES. AND

WE WILL BRING THAT BACK. >> ARE WE READY TO GO FOR BIDS

ON THE ROOF. >> WE ALREADY APPROVED THE OTHER COMPANY TO COME AND ASSESS . WE'VE ALREADY HIRED THEM INTO A CONTRACT WITH THEM. WE NEED TO BRING IT BACK. IF YOU CANNOT GET A HOLD OF, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY . WHEN WE WANT TO BRING THIS BACK FOR THE NEXT MEETING IN THE FIRST

MEETING IN FEBRUARY. >> THIS WHOLE THING, THE ROOF PIPING IS NOT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE LESS FUNDING, RIGHT? WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IS BEING SPENT AND HOW MUCH MONEY.

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>> IT'S PUTTING A HOLD ON EVERYTHING.

>> WE NEED TO MOVE ON THESE TWO PROJECTS. REALLY, WE NEED TO MOVE . I THINK YOU'RE READY FOR THAT, RIGHT? ARE YOU READY TO HAVE NOT MOVED FORWARD ON THE BOMBING IN THE ROOFING?

>> THE ROOF, I THINK IS GOING TO BE A DECISION --

>> IF YOU GET IN TOUCH WITH HIM, WE CAN GET THE ROOF BACK ON FOR THE NEXT MEETING. WE ALREADY APPROVED AND HE HAS NOT

COME. >> HE HAS TIME TO DO THE EVALUATION. HE CAN'T DO THAT IN THE WEEK.

>> WHEN DID WE VOTE ON THAT? >> I DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO'S GETTING A HOLD ON HIM. I DEAL WITH THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS.

>> YOU DO? >> YES. I DON'T EVER HAVE A PROBLEM GETTING A HOLD OF HIM.

>> AND HE HAS NOT BEEN HERE. YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN NOTIFIED HE'S BEEN HERE. I THINK WE CONTACTED HIM, YOU SAID IT WAS

URGENT. >> I DID NOT.

>> WHEN YOU ASK FOR THE ASSESSMENT, WE HAVE TO MOVE

FORWARD. >> I HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING SINCE WE VOTED ON THIS, GEORGE. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE IT ON.

>> LET'S ADJUST TO SEE IF HE'S AVAILABLE OR HAS DONE ANYTHING.

JUST ANOTHER UPDATE. THE ROOFING SECTION. NOW WE MOVE FORWARD AND YOU COULD TELL US ABOUT THE PLUMBING ISSUE.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. PRESENTATION FOR THE PLUMBING LINES AND REPLACEMENT OF THE PLUMBING LINES AT THE COURTHOUSE IN THE JAIL. NEXT SLIDE. JUST A BRIEF PROJECT SCOPE. WE HAVE BEEN HIRED TO DO AND PROVIDE THE INSPECTION AND EVALUATION OF THE VISITING CONDITION. TO FIND OUT HOW MANY AREAS WE NEED TO CHECK AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO. WITHOUT OTHERS APPROXIMATELY 6500 LEAD IN THE PIPE AND ACCORDING -- NEW JAIL. APPROXIMATELY 25 THOUSAND FEET THAT WE NEEDED TO EXPECT IN CHECK . WE PERFORM THE INSPECTION ON IT. 90% OF THE ACTION IS COMPLETED.

WHAT WE ARE FINDING OUT IS WHAT EVERYBODY THOUGHT OF IS OLD , ALMOST 40+ YEARS OLD TYPE. IT'S ALMOST TO ITS LIFE.

I COULD SHOW THE PICTURES AS WE GO FURTHER DOWN. IT NEEDED TO BE DONE SOME THING. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. WE MADE A CONTRACT HAS BEEN WORKING IN THE COURTHOUSE. SO, WE HIRED HIM AS OUR SUBCONTRACTOR ABILITY AND INSPECTIONS AND NEW INVESTIGATIONS. THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH ALL THE PICTURES. THE PICTURE STARTS NEXT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. YOU CAN SEE THE SMALL PIPE AND PLUMBING PIPE . IT'S A CAST ON PIPE . HE DISTILLS THE IT COMING THROUGH THE THING. IF YOU LOOK WHERE THE MATERIAL IS DIFFERENT , THIS IS TAKING CARE OF IT AND IT'S CREATING MORE DAMAGE. IF YOU LOOK THERE'S A HANGER ON THE LEFT SIDE HANGING OUT THERE. THERE'S NO SUPPORT .

IT'S BROKEN OFF OR PROBABLY NOT INSTALLED. IT IS HANGING OUT THERE BY . WE FOUND THE SITUATION. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BIG GREEN PIPE. IS SUPPORTING ON ITS OWN. AND IT'S A CONNECTION SINCE SO FORTH. NEXT ONE. THIS IS THE MAIN HAROLD PIPE HUMMING FROM THE JAIL. IT'S A PIPE THAT'S GOES OUT THROUGH THE DISCHARGE LINE. SEE THE CRACK AHAZ. AN IMAGE THE AXIS WHERE IT BACKS UP OR ALL OF THAT. THAT THING HAS TO BE -- IT'S AT THE END OF HIS LIFE.

>> THIS IS COMING FROM ONE FLOOR TO ANOTHER WAR.

NORMALLY, WE HAVE A CLIENT SUPPORT. THE PIPE DOES NOT GO FROM ONE OF THAT'S ALSO COVERED I CAN JUMP IN AND I ARTIE TALKED ABOUT THE CONCERNS. THAT THE NEXT LIGHT. IT TALKS ABOUT THE CONCERNS OF WHAT IS THERE . IN THE JAIL, THE MAIN

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CONCERN IS , AND THE OLD JAIL , THERE IS A CRAWLSPACE BETWEEN THE CELLS. AND THE PIPES RUN THROUGH THE CRAWLSPACE. THERE IS NO CLEANUP PROVIDED. I DON'T KNOW WHY . WE CHECKED THE JAIL STANDARDS. GEO-STANDARD SAY CLEANOUTS ARE NOT A PROBLEM. IT SEPARATED OUT FROM THE CELL. SO WHAT HAPPENS CURRENTLY IS IF THE PIPE IS CUT AND SOMETHING GOES WRONG, THE CELL NEEDS TO GET EMPTY. THE WHOLE FIXTURE HAS TO BE MOVED OUT OF THE AREA AND BECOMES A CLEANOUT. IN THIS PROJECT, WHAT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO IS SEPARATE THE CLEANOUT SO NOBODY HAS TO MOVE. AND USE THE CLEANOUT TO CLEAN THE

AREAS. >> NEXT ONE. SAME THING. IN THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE, RECENT REPAIRS WERE DONE AND UPDATES WERE DONE AND WHAT IS HAPPENED IS THE CLEANOUTS ARE RIGHT BEHIND THE WALL. HAS NO ACCESS TO IT. WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY HAVE TO DO THAT AND CUT OUT THE WALL AND GET TO THE CLEANOUT AND FIX THE WALL BACK AGAIN. WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS PROVIDE THE PERMANENT PANELS . MAINTENANCE WILL HAVE SO THEY CAN OPEN THE PANEL, REACH TO THE CLEANOUT AND DO NOT HAVE TO KEEP ON BREAKING THE WALLS ALL THE TIME. THINKING THAT WE FOUND OUT THERE'S A LINE THAT GOES BY THE PARKING GARAGE WHICH HAS A RESTIVE DAMAGE AND THE CRACKS. AND THAT MAKES THE SEWER GAS. SOMETIMES, WHEN YOU COME FROM THE RESTAURANT AREA, HIS MOTHER SEWER GAS. THAT'S THE REASON THAT IS THERE.

>> NEXT SLIDE. THE PERSON IS NOW TRYING TO CLEAN THE P-TRAP.

THE P-TRAP'S HAVE NOTHING TO CLEAN IT OUT. I'M JUST SHOWING THE PICTURES. WE'RE LUCKY THEY ARE DOING THAT AND THEY HAVE PICTURES DOING THAT. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS SELF-EXPLANATORY HOW BAD IT IS. IT'S DAMAGED IN LEAKING GAS THROUGH IT. AND SO WORTH. NEXT ONE. IT DOES NOT STOP ONLY IN THE BUILDING.

WHEN THE LINES COME OUT OF THE BUILDING, GOING THROUGH YOUR GRINDER PUMP AND GOING THROUGH THE MAIN DISCHARGE, YOU CAN SEE EVEN IN THE GROUND, WE ARE GOING TO GO FIX NOT ONLY IN THE BUILDING, BUT THIS PART ALSO. IF YOU DON'T ASK THIS, GOING TO -- IS NOT IN THE PART OF THE BUILDING, BUT IT IS PART OF THE PROJECT. I CONSIDER THAT COMING OUT OF THE BUILDING GOING ALL THE WAY, THE DISCHARGE IS WHAT YOU NEED TO HAVE. SO WE HAVE DONE ALL OUR INVESTIGATIONS AND FOUND ALL THE INFORMATION . WE STARTED THE DESIGN ON THE THING. WHICH I MENTIONED, THE JUDGE AND COMMISSION. WE ARE PLANNING ENOUGH TO FINISH EVERYTHING BY THE END OF FEBRUARY. WE TALKED ABOUT IT YESTERDAY . RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SAYING WE PROBABLY CAN SQUEEZE IT BY ONE WEEK. WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE WHETHER WE CAN SQUEEZE ANY MORE THAN THAT. RIGHT NOW, AS I MAKE A PRESENTATION, STILL SHOWING MY CHART MY DESIGN ENDS AT THE END OF FEBRUARY. I WILL DATE IT WITHIN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND COME BACK AND PROVIDE ANYONE. I DID NOT HAVE THE TIME TO GO

BACK AND CHANGE IT. >> WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO OUT FOR BIDS ON THE PROJECT, YOU ARE SAYING BY FIRST MEETING IN

MARCH. >> THAT'S CORRECT. I'M TRYING

TO SQUEEZE AND SEE IF I CAN GO. >> WE HOPE YOU SURPRISE US AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BUY THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY.

>> I'M GOING THAT FAR IN, BECAUSE IT GOES DOWN INTO WEEKS. IT'S KIND OF TOUGH FOR ME TO COME AND SAY I WILL BE ABLE TO. RIGHT NOW, RATHER THAN THE END OF FEBRUARY, I THINK I WILL BE ABLE TO GO BY THE THIRD WEEK OF FEBRUARY. THE THIRD MEETING, WHICH IS THE THIRD OF FEBRUARY. I'M ALMOST THERE. ALMOST THERE. WE WILL BE, LIKE I'M SAYING, WE ARE GOING TO SUBMIT THE PACKAGE FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS AND WE WILL WORK WITH THE PURCHASING. AND HELP THEM THROUGH THE BIDDING PROCESS. IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS COMING UP, WE WILL ANSWER IT.

WE WILL DO ALL OF THAT . SLIDE. THIS IS WHERE I WAS

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TALKING ABOUT MY DESIGN RAISE THAT I WILL BE FINISHING UP BY THE END OF FEBRUARY. I WILL REVISE THIS WITHIN A WEEK OR TWO AND GIVE YOU A MORE CURRENT ONE. I THINK YOU WILL BE THERE BY THE THIRD MEETING. NEXT ONE. THE BIDDING PHASE, PROVIDED THE STANDARD EIGHT WEEKS. IF PUBLIC WORDS AND PURCHASING, AND STATES THAT IN, MAKING IT THAT MUCH MORE FASTER AND SO FORTH. NEXT SLIDE. AND THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE STARTS RIGHT AFTER THAT, IT TAKES ABOUT 183 DAYS ON CONSTRUCTION, THAT'S WHAT I'M SHOWING. IT'S AT THE END OF THE YEAR THE FIRST WEEK OF JANUARY 25. THE PROJECT, AT THIS STAGE, IF WE GET THAT ONE IN ON WHATEVER, WE PROBABLY WOULD BE ABLE TO FINISH IT BY THE END OF 24. THAT'S WHAT WE PROVIDE TICKING SHOOTING OR TO GET DONE. WE ARE GOING TO REVISE THE ESTIMATE . COMMISSIONER GONZALES GOT ME YESTERDAY. I KIND OF MADE A COMMENT, THE $4.3 MILLION BUDGET , WE'LL PROBABLY MAINTAIN THAT.

>> PROBABLY. 2 NO. >> I THINK PROBABLY BECAUSE I

USE THE WORD YESTERDAY . >> TURNKEY. WE LIKE THAT WORD.

COMMISSIONERS ALWAYS TURNKEY. TURNED THE KEY. NO EXTRA

COST. >> SHE ACTUALLY FOLLOWS THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS. I PROBABLY COME OUT TO SAY THAT.

UNFORTUNATELY, I'M NOT IN THE CONCESSION BUSINESS. I CANNOT GO AND SAY TURNKEY. WE ARE GOING TO WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND TRY TO GET THE PROJECT IN THE BUDGET. AND TRY TO PUSH IT TO GET IT IN A TIMELY MANNER.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT SLIDE IS THE QUESTION ANSWERED.

>> DO WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS? YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THIS TO GO FORWARD YET? IT WAS JUST AN UPDATE?

>> NO MA'AM. IT WAS JUST AN UPDATE. ONCE I HAD MY NEXT ONE, WHICH I'LL HAVE MY REVISED TIMELINE , MY SCHEDULES . ALSO, BY THE TIME I WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO GO.

>> GOING OUT IN THE NEXT MEETING.

>> IN THE JAIL, WHAT WE HAVE FOUND ON THE CROSS PHASE, THE LATERALS LOOKS STILL IN GOOD CHANGE. WERE GOING TO TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN UTILIZE THAT AND STAY IN THE BUDGET . AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO ME.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> IT WILL COME BACK TO YOU. >> I'M NOT RECORDING THIS.

>> THANK YOU. QUESTIONS? >> WHETHER ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY ? IT LOOKS PRETTY BAD. WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING FOR A

LONG TIME. THANK YOU. >> I WAS TOLD COMMISSIONER 1115 2023, WITH THE CONTRACT WITH TEXAS STATE GROUPING.

JUST BECAUSE I WAS ASKED SEVERAL TIMES I WAS CONTACTED AND MY ANSWER THE LAST THREE TIMES WAS WE HAVE NOT HEARD

FROM THEM AT ALL. >> YOU SIGNED THE CONTRACT

>> I SIGNED THE CONTRACT >> THE CONTRACT WAS APPROVED

NOVEMBER 15TH. >> DOES THAT ? DO YOU HAVE THE

CONTRACT? >> HAS

>>> ONCE IT WAS FINALIZED. >> SHE TOOK HIM THE FINAL DOCUMENT ONCE IT WAS COMPLETED.

>> OKAY SHE TOOK HIM THE FINAL DOCUMENT? SIGNED BY THE JUDGE?

>> THE SIGNED CONTRACT BACK? >> JASON GETTING HIM THE DOCUMENT TO SIGN AND ONE WAS APPROVED IN COURT IT WAS EXECUTED BY PURCHASING. ONE WAS COMPLETED WE GAVE IT TO EMILY TO TAKE BACK, HIS COPY , THE ORIGINAL.

>> HE SIGNED BEFORE I DID. >> THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING IF HE

[2. Discuss and consider approval of Work Authorization No. 2 between Nueces County and Turner Ramirez Architects for the Courthouse Renovations for the Social Services and Veteran Services departments.]

SIGNED THE CONTRACT. OKAY. >> THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO ITEM DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF WORK AUTHORIZATION

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NUMBER TWO BETWEEN RAMIREZ FOR SOCIAL SERVICE AND EMBEDDED SERVICES. SPEC RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT. THERE WAS AN UPDATED COPY SUBMITTED THIS MORNING AND THE ITEM WE UPDATED WAS THE TATE APRIL 2620 23 AND AT THE END OF THE CONTRACT IT HAD 4/26. WE MET WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND THEY ARE RECOMMENDING ALSO. TO PROVE.

>> SECOND. >> APPROVED BY THE COUNTY

ATTORNEY? >> YES OR.

>> WE HAD LIMITED AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THIS?

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED?

[1. Discuss and consider award and execution of an Agreement with MPACT Strategic Consulting, LLC for FEMA-Public Assistance Grant Management Services for Disaster Recovery.]

>> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT. >> MOVING ON TO PURCHASING.

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AWARD AND EXECUTION OF AGREEMENT WITH IMPACT STRATEGIC CONSULTING FOR FEMA PUBLIC ASSISTANCE GRANT MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR DISASTER RECOVERY.

>> YES, SO THE COURT ON JUNE 21ST SELECTED TWO VENDORS FOR CONTRACTS. THIS IS THE HALF THAT BELONGS TO IMPACT STRATEGIC CONSULTING. BRINGING THAT CONTRACT , IT IS FOR PUBLIC ASSISTANCE THIS WOULD BE ONLY IN THE EVENT OF EMERGENCY. WE HAVE TO USE AND RE- REIMBURSED. I WILL SECOND.

HE MOTIONED. A MOTION AND SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOVING ON , THE MOTION PASSES MOVING ON D 2.

[2. Discuss and consider conditional selection of AV Fuels Corporation for Aviation Fuel for Nueces County Airport (IFB No. 3254-23) at the bid amounts of $3.7848 per gallon for 100LL and $3.4593 per gallon for Jet A1.]

>> MOVE. >> SECOND.

>> FEEL FOR THE AIRPORT MOTION AND SECOND. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. I SAW HIM WALK IN, IN THE BACK DID WE GET THE POWER UP? I KNOW THERE WAS A FUEL PROBLEM. OKAY. THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN. TO THE OFFICE , VERY INSTRUMENTAL ON BOTH OF THESE ITEMS. THANK YOU FOR THE WORK ON THE MPACT CONTRACT AND THE PURCHASING PARTNER WHO DID HEAVY LIFTING ON THE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THESE GROUPS,

[1. Discuss and consider Amazon Business as an addition to the Vendor Exceptions List not requiring Commissioner's Court pre-approval.]

THANK YOU. >> ABSOLUTELY, THANK YOU ALL.

ITEM E AUDITOR DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AMAZON BUSINESS AS ADDITION TO THE VENDOR EXCEPTIONS LIST.

>> YES YOUR HONOR AS WE KNOW WE HAVE STARTED A WORKDAY EVALUATION AND ADJUSTING THIS WE ARE ABLE TO ADD CERTAIN PLATFORMS TO THE PLATFORM WHERE WE CAN DO SOME REGULAR PURCHASING AND YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED HOW MANY PEOPLE ALREADY DO PURCHASING THROUGH NORMAL PROCESS WITH AMAZON.

THIS IS A BUSINESS ORGANIZATION THAT ALLOWS US TO CONTROL WITH MICHAEL AND HIS ITEM, HOWEVER THEY REQUIRED TO BE PAID IMMEDIATELY. WHEN YOU GET DONE WE CANNOT USE A CREDIT CARD SO WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE THIS DONE IN THE PROCESS QUICKLY THEY WON'T EVEN CHECK IMMEDIATELY FROM IN THE TRANSACTION WAS DONE. CLEAR ASKING TO ADD THIS TO THE

EXCEPTION LIST. >> IF THESE PURCHASES AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS PERSONALLY, THESE PURCHASES WOULD ALMOST BE BETTER THAN DOING IT THE OTHER WAY BECAUSE THEY AUTOMATICALLY GO TO THE DEPARTMENT, THERE WILL BE REPORT SHOWS WHO PURCHASED. THERE IS MORE ACCOUNTING WHERE ON THE CARDS WE ARE SOMETIMES WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO RECONCILE THEIR ACCOUNTS, THIS WOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY GIVING

INFORMATION. >> THIS WILL WORK TOGETHER WHERE THEY WILL BE SENT TO HIS OFFICE AND MICHAEL WILL KNOW HOW TO DISTRIBUTE THE GOODS TO THE PROPER DEPARTMENT.

>> WHAT ABOUT PURCHASES THAT ARE NOT ALLOWABLE? HOW DO YOU

STOP THAT? >> WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS WORKING THROUGH MICHAEL'S OFFICE ON WHAT CAN AND CANNOT BE PURCHASED THROUGH THIS

ENDEAVOR. >> SO THE NEW IS THE ONE WHO WILL BE POLICING OR I GUESS THE AUDITOR OFFICE TO SEE IF IN ELIGIBLE PURCHASES ARE MADE ON SOMEONE'S AMAZON ACCOUNT? FOR NUECES COUNTY. NO INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNT. THEY CAN USE THEIR OWN BUT IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY.

>> THE INDIVIDUAL WHO ORDERS WE WILL KNOW WHICH DEPARTMENT

ORDERS AND WE ORDER. >> IT WILL GO THROUGH NORMAL

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BUSINESS PROCESS TO BE APPROVED TO GO TO THE TRANSACTION. YES.

QUESTION, BUT ONE CONCERN IS EACH INDIVIDUAL MAKING PURCHASES THROUGH THE SYSTEM HAS TO LOG INTO THE SYSTEM AS THEMSELVES. SO WE WILL HAVE A DIRECT RECORD OF WHO MADE EACH INDIVIDUAL PURCHASE AND WE CAN GO BACK IN TIME TO SEE WHO MADE IT, WHEN, WHAT TIME OF DAY AND THEN IF WE DO HAVE AN ITEM NOT MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE A MECHANISM FOR THE EMPLOYEE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PURCHASES NOT MADE ACCORDING TO THE COUNTY RULES.

>> SPECIAL PURCHASES ? YOU PUT THEM .

>> THE PAYMENT WOULD GO THROUGH AS A VENDOR THROUGH NORMAL PROCESS SO I BELIEVE AMAZON WOULD BE A NORMAL TRANSACTION WITH A SPECIAL MOTION ITEM IT WOULD BE A NORMAL VENDOR , IT JUST REQUIRES AMAZON REQUIRES PAYMENT WITHIN THREE DAYS.

>> WILL IT HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL LIST WITH AMAZON LIKE THE OR

WHATEVER? >> YES.

>> WHAT WAS MY OTHER QUESTION? TO ME THIS SEEMS.

>> WE ALREADY HAVE PURCHASING GOING TO AMAZON THROUGH THE P-CARD METHOD. THIS IS A MORE SECURE AND BETTER TRACKING WAY.

POINTED OUT THAT AT THE LAW IN, IT IS THE INDIVIDUAL AND THERE WILL BE RECORD OF WHO ORDERED IT. MY LAST AND FINAL QUESTION FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. I KNOW WE HAVE A HARD TIME WHEN SOMEBODY GETS SOMETHING WHAT'S THE AVENUE TO GET IT RETURNED BECAUSE WE CANNOT WITHHOLD MONEY OR TAKE MONEY IF YOU PURCHASE SOMETHING THAT IS WRONG HOW DO WE GET IT

BACK? >> WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT CONTRACT WITH THAT QUESTION IN MIND TO GET AN ANSWER. NORMALLY WHEN PEOPLE MAKE A PURCHASE ON A P-CARD AND THE AUDITOR CATCHES IT, THEY HAVE A MECHANISM TO GET IT

BACK. >> THEY WALK IN AND PAY FOR IT, YOU CANNOT WITHHOLD IT FROM THERE CHECK. THAT'S WHAT I

MEANT. >> THIS IS ACTUALLY INTEGRATED IN WORK DAY SO WE WILL NOT DO THE WORK FOR PROCESS TO FIND OUT THE TRANSACTION AND WHO DID WHAT.

>> THAT REPORT WILL BE ON OURS PERIODICALLY.

>> YES WHEN WE HAVE THE TRANSACTION FROM AMAZON WE WILL MAKE SURE WHO PURCHASED WHAT AND WHY.

>> DOES THAT HAPPEN ON A REGULAR BASIS? PEOPLE PURCHASING THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T? SPYWARE PROCESSES WHERE THE USE THE P-CARD TO PURCHASE AMAZON AND WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL WITH A P-CARD LIKE WE DO WITH THIS BUSINESS FUNCTION. WE CANNOT CATCH IT UNTIL THE INVOICE COMES IN AND WE SAY THIS IS NOT A TRUE EXPENSE THAT QUALIFIES AND THEN WE TURN TO THE DEPARTMENT AND THE EMPLOYEE AND SAY WHY WAS THIS DONE AND SOMETIMES THEY SAY THIS NEEDS TO BE REFUNDED.

>> WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS MAYBE SOMETIMES SOME EMPLOYEES GET IN THE HABIT OF ORDERING THINGS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T AND I THINK I WILL GET PAID BACK LATER.

>> NOT A LOT BUT I'M SURE IT HAPPENS SOME. I WOULD NOT SAY PEOPLE ARE JUST BUYING STUFF BRINGING IN AND SAY I WILL PAY LATER BECAUSE IT'S QUICKER. WE DO HAVE SOME CONTROL OF THE P-CARD AND MY DIVISION WE WORK THROUGH THIS AND AUDIT THE ALMOST DAILY AND WE MAKE SURE THE DEPARTMENT VALIDATES THE TRANSACTION TO MAKE SURE IT WAS A TRUE PURCHASE AND IF THERE IS ABUSING OF THE CARDS AND THE CARD WILL BE SHUT OFF.

>> THIS WILL NOT BE ON THE P-CARD. IT IS TIED TO THE PURCHASE ORDER SYSTEM. WHICH IS MORE SECURE.

>> YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PURCHASE ORDER TO BUY SOMETHING ON

AMAZON? >> IT CREATES AN AUTOMATIC PURCHASE ORDER THROUGH THAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE NOT A CREDIT

CARD. >> THE PURCHASER GOES TO THE BUSINESS PROCESS AND NOTIFIES THE MANAGERS AND EVERYTHING

WHAT'S GOING ON. >> AUTOMATICALLY DEDUCTS.

>> WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE ON THE EXCEPTIONS LIST?

>> NORMAL PROCESS WE THINK WE CAN PURCHASE THROUGH AMAZON

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USING CREDIT CARD TO PAY THIS HOWEVER THIS IS A BUSINESS FUNCTION AND AMAZON WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO USE A CREDIT CARD IT MUST BE THROUGH ACH DIRECT DEPOSIT WITHIN A FEW DAYS OF THE TRANSACTION TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THEIR MONEY.

>> ARE RATHER GO TO THE COUNTY JUDGE OFFICE. TO WHERE IT'S NOT JUST PURELY PREAPPROVED OR SOMEBODY CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

>> WE ARE TALKING GENERALLY SPEAKING ON AMAZON PURCHASES.

MAYBE SOME SPECIALIZED PAPER OR PENS AND ENVELOPES. THERE IS A DOLLAR MAX PURCHASE THEY CANNOT EXCEED. I THINK THEY CANNOT

EXCEED 5000. >> I WENT THROUGH THE TRAINING, IT IS A LIMITED NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT ARE APPROPRIATE SO IT'S NOT EVERYTHING ON AMAZON.

>> I WAS STILL LIKE IT TO RUN TO THE COUNTY JUDGE OFFICE.

>> WHEN WE PROCESS THE PAYMENT WE WILL HAVE INFORMATION.

PRIOR TO APPROVAL. >> I WOULD MAKE MOTION THAT IT'S ADDED TO THE VENDOR EXCEPTION LIST REQUIRING IT TO BE RUN THROUGH THE COUNTY JUDGE OFFICE BEFORE APPROVED.

>> SECOND. >> SORRY JUDGE.

>> THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN

FAVOR? >> GREAT TO BE QUEEN.

>> DON'T FORGET WHEN I'M OUT. YOU ARE IT.

>> EXCEPT TO REMIND I TAKE IT BACK JUST KIDDING.

>> OKAY. MOVING ON, THANK YOU. YOU HAD SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT THAT HE WANTED TO MENTION?

>> I KNOW IT'S NOT ON THIS, BUT GRANTS ASKS IF WE CAN BRING BACK THE EXCEPTION LIST THE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND VETERAN TREATMENT PROGRAM BECAUSE THE VA IS TRYING TO GET INVOLVED IN

THE PAYMENTS. >> WITH TEXAS VETERAN COMMISSION WE HAVE THOSE GRANTS THROUGH THEM. WE DO REQUEST REIMBURSEMENT ON A MONTHLY BASIS. IN ORDER TO REQUEST REIMBURSEMENT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE INVOICE AND PROOF OF PAYMENT AND THEY WILL NOT ACCEPT OR APPROVE INVOICES

PAID OVER 60 DAYS. >> THAT'S NOT NOTICED SO I WOULD ASKED TO PUT IT ON THE FUTURE AGENDA.

>> YES. >> WE DON'T HAVE OTHER RELATED

MATTERS. >> PUT IT ON FOR NEXT WEEK.

AND ADD FOR NEXT WEEK EVEN THOUGH IT'S LATE.

>> OKAY. THAT IS ALL YOU HAVE? THANK YOU.

>> QUESTION FOR DALE. THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. YOU PROVIDED ME FROM LAST MEETING, BUT I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED ON THE, AGAIN TO ME I'VE ALWAYS SAID THE WHOLE NINE YARDS OF WHAT'S GOING ON, THE AMOUNT AND I KNOW ON THE ARPA WE HAD A REPORT BUT NEVER MENTIONED WHAT'S GENERATED. TO BE TRANSPARENT WHAT'S GOING TO THE GENERAL ACCOUNT, IT MIGHT BE A TIME WHERE WE CAN NEED 300,000 OR WHATEVER.

>> THIS IS THE PREVIOUS ITEM WITH THE ARPA UPDATES.

>> I KNOW WE HAVE MILLIONS AS FAR AS THE INTEREST IS CONCERNED WHEN WE STARTED. I THINK WHEN WE DO A REPORT WE SHOULD BE TRANSPARENT ALL THE WAY FOR WHAT HAPPENS, HOW MUCH WE HAVE, WHAT WE HAVE SPENT, THE INTEREST GENERATED. TO ME THAT'S DOING THE WHOLE THING. NOT JUST PART OF IT. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND I HAVE ASKED FOR THAT SEVERAL TIMES. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GAVE ME. I JUST GOT IT THIS MORNING AND THE , THE OTHER THING THAT , UNLESS YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT ONE FIRST BEFORE I ASK THE OTHER QUESTION.

>> YES. >> ON THE INTEREST DO YOU HAVE

ANYTHING? >> WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THE

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PROCESS, THE TREASURY ALLOWS THE FUND TO BE ACCRUED AND PAID TO THE GENERAL FUND AND WE BROUGHT THE COURT WITH AUTHORIZED INTEREST EARNED FROM THE ACCOUNTS WE RECEIVED FOR

THE BUDGET TO BE TRANSFERRED. >> NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. KEEP US INFORMED OF WHAT'S BEING PUT IN THERE. 5 MILLION OR 6 MILLION, WE SHOULD KNOW IF IT IS 5 MILLION OR 6 MILLION BECAUSE THAT IS 6 MILLION WE DON'T THINK WE HAVE. THAT WE HAVE. DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE VIEWS THAT DIFFERENT BUT TO BE TRANSPARENT WE SHOULD HAVE A COMPLETE REPORT OF ALL THE FUNDS AND WHERE TO GO.

AGAIN. >> WE WILL PROVIDE A LIST OF ALL THE INTEREST EARNED ON ARPA FUNDS.

>> THE OTHER THING I HAVE ON , BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION TODAY WHEN I ASKED ABOUT THE , COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ AT THE LAST MEETING QUESTIONED SOME CHECKS THAT WERE MADE THAT BELONGED TO THE EMERGENCY DISTRICT.

>> PROCESSING CHECKS FROM EMERGENCY SERVICES.

>> WHY DO THEY COME OUT IN SPECIAL MOTIONS?

>> I WILL SEE WHAT WE DO, I THINK WITH THE LAST THING WE HAVE FOR WATER CONTROL SERVICES.

>> IS THAT ON THE HAZEL BAZEMORE STUFF ?

>> THE LAST ONE WE HAD WAS FOR WATER CONTROL SERVICES NOT

THROUGH THE EFT. >> WAS IT ON THE CHECK

WE QUESTIONED IT. >> I'M SORRY WHAT ITEM?

>> EDWARD YOUNGMAN WAS ONE OF THEM.

>> IS THIS DISCUSSION RELATED TO AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA?

>> THE LAST ONE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ARPA FUNDS THERE WAS AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA , BUT THIS WAS NOT, IF YOU'RE JUST ASKING ABOUT A SPECIFIC CHECK THAT WAS WRITTEN.

>> HE IS GETTING A AUDIT REPORT I AM ASKING FROM THE AUDIT REPORT WHY WE SHOW THIS CHANGE AND HOW DO WE GET THIS IN THE ACCOUNT IN NUECES COUNTY ACCOUNTS , IT BELONGS TO THE COUNTY DISTRICT DRAINAGE BUT IT SHOWS IN OUR ACCOUNT.

>> IT WENT TO OUR ACCOUNT THAT'S WHERE WE GET INFORMATION WHERE THE ACCOUNTING DIVISION FOR DRAINAGE DISTRICT 3 THEY ONLY HAVE SMALL ACCOUNTS BUT THAT'S THE ONLY ONE WE ACCOUNT

FOR. >> IT DOES NOT COME TO US.

>> WE ARE JUST THE BOOK KEEPERS.

>> THEY DON'T HAVE STAFF. >> IS THERE ANY WAY TO MARK THAT TO KNOW? THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE QUESTION LAST TIME.

THEY CAME OUT OF THE VOTE IN SPECIAL MOTIONS. SO RECOGNIZE SPECIAL MOTIONS ARE NOT OURS THEY SHOULDN'T EVEN BE ON.

>> YOU WANT A NOTE ADDED IF IT'S NOT THE COUNTY -RELATED.

>> IT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ON SPECIAL MOTIONS, I WILL VERIFY WHY THAT WAS THE CASE AND MAKE SURE WHY IT WAS THERE.

>> I THINK THERE WAS THREE OF THEM.

>> OKAY. I THINK THAT THE ONLY TWO THINGS I HAVE.

>> GOING BACK ARE YOU READY FOR THREE A 11 ON THE HEALTH UNIT , THE CHANGES TO THE CONTRACT? DO YOU HAVE THE NOTES BEFORE

WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE? >> I WENT BACK AND THE ITEM THAT WAS PROVIDED TO COMMISSIONERS THERE IN THE PACKET , I BELIEVE THAT SHOULD BE ACCEPTABLE. IF YOU WANT TO JUST STICK WITH THAT ONE, THAT IS PAGE 523 OUT OF 625 THE ONE THAT WE HAVE IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, BUT THIS SHOULD

SUFFICE. >> YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM AND YOU WILL NOT MAKE THE CHANGE? COMMISSIONER CHESNEY ANOTHER

QUESTION? >> I WOULD LIKE A GENERAL EXPLANATION OF WHAT THIS SAYS.

>> WITH THE ORDER SAYS? OKAY.

>> YES, I MEAN. >> SO, CHAPTER 121 PROVIDES

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FOR THE HEALTH UNIT , THE HEALTH REORGANIZATION ACT. I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN TRYING TO BRING FORTH HEALTHCARE, NOT HEALTHCARE, BUT PUBLIC HEALTH AND COULD PROVIDE AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT HE HOPES TO ACHIEVE THERE. THIS IS SET TO COME INTO BEING MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE DAY AFTER THE PUBLIC HEALTH DISTRICT IS DISSOLVED ON THE LAST DAY OF MARCH. I AM NOT SURE WHAT YOUR

QUESTIONS ARE. >> IT DOES NOT TAKE EFFECT UNTIL THEN? DETERMINATION OF THE CURRENT CONTRACT?

>> BASICALLY , A HEALTH UNIT DISORDER ESTABLISHES IT.

RIGHT? AGAIN KIND OF HARD TO READ. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EVEN LOOK FOR. I HAVE READ IT, BUT IS THERE SOMETHING DIFFERENT? SOMETHING YOU DID THAT YOU DESIGNED?

>> THERE IS A WHOLE HOST OF RESPONSIBILITIES THAT I WOULD LOVE TO UPDATE THE COURT WITH IN EXECUTIVE. THERE ARE A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITIES. SOME ARE NOT RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE COURT SO I WOULD ASK TO DO THAT IN EXECUTIVE.

>> THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO UNDERSTAND.

>> LET'S MOVE THIS TO EXECUTIVE WRITTEN TODAY. YES. 501.071.

>> OKAY. ANY OTHER BUSINESS? OTHERWISE WE ARE READY TO GO

[4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.]

INTO EXECUTIVE. I HAVE NOT MISSED ANYTHING ELSE? IT IS OKAY WE ARE GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION, PUBLIC NOTICE IS GIVEN AT COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY ELECT TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME TO DISCUSS MATTERS LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

WHEN AUTHORIZED BY PROVISIONS OF OPEN MEETINGS ACT CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO THE EXTENT THERE HAS BEEN A PAST PRACTICE OF DISTINGUISHING ITEMS FOR PUBLIC DELIBERATION AND FOR THOSE FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION THE PUBLIC IS ADVISED THAT THE COURT IS DEPARTING FROM THE PRACTICE AND RESERVES THE RIGHT TO DISCUSS ANY LISTED AGENDA ITEMS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WHEN AUTHORIZED BY LAW TO DO SO. IN THE EVENT COMMISSIONER COURTNEY LIKES TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION REGARDING AN AGENDA ITEM SECTION OR SECTIONS OF THE MEETINGS ACT AUTHORIZES THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551 POINT 551.086, 551.087 THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL HOLD EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH ATTORNEYS INCLUDING MATTERS RELATED TO LITIGATION, DELIBERATE REGARDING REAL PROPERTY, RESPECTIVE GIFTS, PERSONNEL MATTERS INCLUDING TERMINATION, COUNTY ADVISORY BODIES , SECURITY DEVICES AND/OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND OTHER MATTERS TO BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. UPON COMPLETION OF THE SESSION COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY IN A OPEN SESSION TAKE SUCH ACTION AS APPROPRIATE ON ITEMS LISTED IN THE EXECUTIVE SECTION SESSION. WILL DO ITEM A, CONSULT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND OUTSIDE COUNCIL ON LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO CAUSE NUMBER 2024 CCB 600 6001 -3 NUECES COUNTY VERSUS THE JONES FAMILY TRUST AND ALL RELATED MATTERS, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071 , ITEM B CONSOLE COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING FINAL PAYMENT TO ARMOR FOR INMATE HEALTHCARE PURSUING 551.071 AND ALL RELATED MATTERS. ADAM C DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTMENT EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION REASSIGNMENT DUTIES DISCIPLINE OR DISMISSAL OF THE COUNTY LIBRARY AND OBSERVE THE COUNTY LIBRARY AND IS OUT AND OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH HER AS SHE IS RECOVERING FROM SURGERY.