[F. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]

>>JUDGE SCOTT: WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO THAT PUBLIC COMMENT.

IF YOU HAVE SIGNED UP, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

WE WON'T BE COMMENTING OR ANYTHING.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. AND I WILL ASK THAT YOU KEEP YOUR CLAPPING OR ANY NOISE OR ANYTHING DOWN DURING PUBLIC COMMENT OR ANYTHING. FIRST PERSON SIGNED UP IS VERONICA WILSON. IF YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. I THINK YOU PROBABLY HAVE IT

DOWN NOW. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS HERE AND AWAY.

I'M VERONICA WILSON AND I LIVED IN CORPUS CHRISTI MY WHOLE LIFE.

12 2 19TH STREET, I GREW UP ACROSS FROM THE BIG EMPTY SPACE THAT WAS MEMORIAL HOSPITAL. MY HUSBAND, DR. DAVID WILSON, WAS A MEMBER OF THE NUECES COUNTY MEDICAL FOUNDATION BOARD, A NONPROFIT THAT WAS THEN RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OVERSIGHT OF THE MEDICAL EDUCATION PROGRAM. UNTIL SPOHN MEMORIAL -- SPOHN TOOK OVER MEMORIAL AND ASSUMED THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE RESIDENCY PROGRAM AROUND 1996. HERE A BIG OL' EMPTY LOT AND 50 DOCTORS WE ARE ABOUT TO LOSE. IN DIFFERENT MEETINGS OVER THE WEEKS, I HAVE LISTENED TO MR. GRANODO AND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY ASK FOR SUGGESTIONS OF SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS. AND HERE IS MINE. IN THE LONG-RUN.

.RESIDENCY PROGRAM SHOULD NOT BE IN THE HANDS OF ANY ONE HOSPITAL SITUATION. WE NEED TO STABILIZE THE SITUATION. FIND ANOTHER HOSPITAL TO TAKE IT AND SPOHN TO HOLD ON TO IT A LITTLE LONGER TO KEEP EVERYONE

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WORKING AND RESIDENCY EFFORT SAFE AND SECURE.

OUR LONG-TERM SOLUTION IS TO CREATE A MEDICAL SCHOOL IN CORPUS CHRISTI. WE NEED A COMMITTEE OF LOCAL DOCTORS TO SPEAK TO EACH UNIVERSITY PRESIDENT TO SEE WHO WANTS TO CREATE A CREATIVE PLAN FOR OUR SCHOOL.

ONCE WE HAVE A BIG HOSPITAL SYSTEM.

SCHOOL SYSTEM. TEXAS A&M.

TEXAS TECH, WE NEED A NEW MEDICAL SCHOOL AND SPOHN SHORELINE AND BAY AREA MEDICAL CENTER FOR ROTATION HOSPITAL.

SITE IT AT THE MEMORIAL CENTER LAND.

IT IS STILL EMPTY. CREATE A BUILDING FOR THE FIRST YEAR. WE HAVE MUCH OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO PROVIDE CLINICAL TRAINING TO THIRD AND FOURTH-YEAR STUDENTS ALIGN THIRD-YEAR STUDENTS TEN WEEKS OF OBGYN, PEDIATRICS AND FOURTH YEAR DO YOU GO SPECIAL ROTATION.

TRAUMA, PEDIATRICS. AND MANY OF THE CORE ROTATIONS ARE ALREADY IN PLACE. WE NEED TO GET ONE OF OUR GREAT TEXAS UNIVERSITY PROS TO SUPPORT THE FOUNDATION OF THE MEDICAL TRAINING FOR YEARS ONE AND TWO. THE MONEY IS AVAILABLE THROUGH THE PERMANENT UNIVERSITY FUND WHICH BUILDS, CONSTRUCTS THESE BUILDINGS FOR UT AND TEXAS A&M. THE VERY IDEA OF SHUTTING DOWN OUR RESIDENCY PROGRAM IS PETTY, SHORTSIGHTED AND SMALL BUSINESS, AND I AM GLAD YOU AGREE. FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING MUCH BIGGER. CREATE NEW EMPLOYEES AND SOLVE THIS BUSINESS, SORRY BUSINESS. AND TURN WHAT IS MEANT FOR OUR DESTRUCTION TO GOOD. A FELLOWSHIP IS NOT A RESIDENCY.

HAVE A GOOD DAY [APPLAUSE]

>>JUDGE SCOTT: I AM SORRY, BUT PLEASE KEEP CAN CLAPPING.

YOU CAN'T CLOP DURING COMMENTS. THANK YOU.

LIONEL LOPEZ, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> LIONEL LOPEZ, 4325 CORPUS CHRISTI.

I'M HERE -- I WORK WITH SOUTH TEXAS COLONIAS INITIALS TIFFS.

A -- INITIATIVES.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENCE OF THE COLONIAS.

WE HAVE MANY, MANY PROBLEMS IN THE COLONIAS.

A WEEK BEFORE LAST, WORKSHOP AT THE COLONIAS MEETINGS IN ROBS TOWN. AND I MENTIONED TO THE -- TO THE COMMISSIONERS THAT ATTEND REGULARLY AT THE CALDERON BUILDING THAT IF JOHN MARE RE WAS WORKING WITH SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY. AND THEY GOT A LITTLE PERTURBED.

AND THEY SAID THAT WASN'T THE PLACE TO -- TO DISCUSS IT.

I SAID IF A COLONIAS MEETING IS NOT A PLACE TO DISCUSS THAT, WHERE WAS A PLACE. SO THEY INVITED ME TO COME OVER HERE. BUT SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY HAS A LOT OF WATER IN THE COLONIAS.

IT IS EXPENSIVE TO HAVE POTABLE WATER AND THE COLONIAS RESIDENTS HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT. IT IS BEYOND ME THAT THE COMMISSIONER WOULD BE WORKING FOR SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY.

IT REALLY IS DISTURBING THAT A COMMISSIONER WOULD BE WORKING THERE AND WORKING HERE AT THE SAME TIME.

I -- IT -- IT IS UNTHINKABLE, BECAUSE FOR ABOUT EIGHT YEARS, I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO PUT FIRE HYDRANTS IN THE SCHOOLS IN BANQUETE. THE COMMISSIONERS -- THE THREE COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE HERE HAVEN'T EVEN HAD -- BOTHERED TO LOOK AT THOSE HYDRANTS AND -- AND SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY PUT THOSE -- WHAT I THOUGHT WERE HYDRANTS FOR A LONG TIME.

WELL, CERRATOR, THE LADIES THAT USED TO RUN THAT, THE LADIES THAT MR. MAREZ TOOK THE PLACE UP TOLD ME THEY WERE FLUSH VOWS.

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>>JUDGE SCOTT: SORRY, SIR. YOUR TIME HAS LIMITED OUT.

THANK YOU. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: JENNY, I WOULD LIKE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO WEIGH IN ON THIS ISSUE.

IT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED ALREADY. DO WE NOT HAVE A TEXAS ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION ON THIS. I NEED FOR YOU TO WEIGH IN ON THIS ITEM. IT IS CONCERNING.

I MEAN -- >> WE CAN GO BACK AND LOCATE THAT AND FORWARD IT BACK TO YOU, COMMISSIONER.

YES, WE DID LOOK AT THIS ISSUE. WE GAVE YOU A FINDINGS AT THE TIME. BUT I THINK THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION IS THE ONE THAT YOU WILL WANT WHERE, I BELIEVE, THEY SAID THIS IS NOT A CONFLICT AS FAR AS -- BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY OVER CERTAIN THINGS AT THE WATER DISTRICT, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN. YOUR ROLE THERE IS NOT ONE OF BEING IN CONTROL-CONTROL. CORRECT.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: YES. AND IT IS A CONTRACT.

AND I HAVE A FILED DISCLOSURES. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE ARE

NOT SUPPOSED TO RESPOND. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: FOR THE WORK WE ARE WE ARE DOING AND SOMEBODY IS DROPPING A BOMB.

>>>JUDGE SCOTT: THE ONLY REASON SHE IS ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT IT.

OTHERWISE SHE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO COME UP JUST FOR CLARIFICATION FOR THE REST OF YOU HERE.

MOVING ON TO PERSON NUMBER 3, DR. MICHAEL BRIDDEEUR.

I ALWAYS GET THAT WRONG. >> THAT'S OKAY.

GOOD MORNING, I'M MIC MICHAEL BRODEUR, 1517 29 IN ESCAPADE. I AM A BOARD DOCTOR WITH SHORELINE WHERE I TEACH FUTURE E.R. DOCTORS OF THE COASTAL BEND. HEY, GUYS.

I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A RESIDENCY PROGRAM AND A FELLOWSHIP. THE CONTRACT WITH SPOHN.

THE CONTRACT STIPULATES FOR DAMAGE WAS MEDICAL EDUCATION THAT, QUOTE, DURING THE TERM OF THIS WILL HAVE TWO GRADUATE EDUCATION PROGRAM IN MEDICAL SPELLINGS TEASE APPROPRIATE TO COMMUNITY NEED WITH COMPREHENSIVE RESIDENCE TRAINING APPEAR TABLE TO SUCH NUMBERS. THIS SPECIFIES RESIDENT TRAINING. RESIDENT TRAINING IS NOT FELLOWSHIP TRAINING. SPOHN WILL HAVE YOU BELIEVE OTHERWISE AND CLAIM THAT THE ONE RESIDENT PER YEAR ACREATED CREDITED FELLOWSHIP COUNTS AS RESIDENT TRAINING.

I BELIEVE THEY ARE SORELY MISTAKEN.

THE GOVERNING BODY IS THE ACGME. PUB HUSHED A 44-PAGE DOCUMENT REVISED IN LAST YEAR AND EFFECTIVE JULY 1 OF THIS YEAR TIGHTLED 234U8ACGME COMMON PROGRAMS REQUIREMENTS AND FELLOWSHIP. THESE ARE THE LAWS THAT RELATE TO ACCREDITED FELLOWSHIP. PAGE 1 UNDER THE DEFENSE DAYSES, THEY MAKE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND FELLOWS.

THERE ARE TWO TRAINING PROGRAMS HERE.

PAGE TWO OF THE FELLOWSHIP LAW, IT IS TO AUTO A ARE ADVANCED MEDICAL TRAINING. AND FOR PHYSICIANS THAT WANT TO ENTER MORE SPECIALIZED PRACTICE. FELLOWSHIP TRAINING IS NOT RESIDENT TRAINING. THEY CONTINUE ON, QUOTE, THE PRIOR EXPERTISE OF FELLOWS OF PHYSICIANS ENTERING RESIDENCY, END QUOTE. FELLOWS ARE NOT RESIDENTS.

WITHIN THE FIRST THREE PAGES FOUR INCIDENTS WHERE FELLOWS UNDERGOING RESIDENCE TRAINING. YOU CANNOT FIND AN INCIDENT WHERE FELLOWS ARE EQUATED WITH RESIDENTS IN THIS DOCUMENT.

AND YOU FIND MANY INSTANCE WHERE THEY ARE DISTINGUISHED.

YESTERDAY DURING THE BOARD MEETING, ONE OF THE SPOHN'S LAWYERS READ FROM A DOCUMENT HOW CMS TREATS FELLOWS TRYING TO MAKE THE.THEY ARE THE SAME AS RESIDENTS.

FROM A BILLING STANDPOINT, FELLOWS AND RESIDENTS DO IN THE SAME WAY. THEY ARE THE AUTHORITY WHEN IT COMES TO ACCREDITING RESIDENCY IN FELLOWSHIPS AND THE AGCME DETERMINE THE DEFINITION. BOTH FELLOWSHIPS AND RESIDENCIES ARE CRUCIAL BUTTER IN NOT THE TAME.

THEY RECOGNIZE THAT. I RECOGNIZE THAT.

AND THE LAYPERSON RECOGNIZE AS THAT.

I HOPE THAT SPOHN COMES TO RECOGNIZE THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU. >>JUDGE SCOTT: DR. ITALITA.

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OH, YOU SPOKE. YOU DON'T NEED TO SPEAK AGAIN.

MARCUS HOSE. >> MARCUS HAAS, DRIFTWOOD PLACE IN CORPUS CHRISTI. NOT OFTEN THAT YOU GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AFTER THEY HAVE ALREADY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO WHAT YOU WANT.

[LAUGHTER] I JUST -- I GUESS I WANT TO THANK YOU BUT I DO THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT HAVE COME OUT. DOCTOR, THAT REALLY, REALLY BODE WELL OUR TEMPERATURE RESIDENCY PROGRAM.

AND I -- I WOULD LIKE SOMEBODY TO -- I ALWAYS HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT GETTING A -- GETTING SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHO IS MAKING THE DECISIONS UP THE FOOD CHAIN.

BUT WE CAN HAVE SOME PEOPLE TO CALL AND VOICE OUR SUPPORT FROM

THE -- FROM THE PROLETIRATE. >>JUDGE SCOTT: THANK YOU, M MR. HHAAS. GAVE GILMORE.

>> DAVID GILMORE, RANCHO VISTA BOULEVARD.

I'M HERE TO TALK TO 34923. FOR YOUR SOLID WASTE AND DISPOSAL SERVICES. I HAD A COUPLE OF ISSUES.

ONE IS WITH THE BIDDING PROCESS. WE WENT TO DO A SEALED BID.

AND THE COMPANY THAT RECEIVED -- THAT HAD THE LOWEST BID DID NOT PROVIDE THE PROPER DOCUMENTS, THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS.

THE DEFINITION OF "REQUIRED" COMPULSORY, MANDATORY.

SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS.

THEY WERE TOLD THEY CAN ADD THOSE AT A LATER DATE WHICH IS CONFUSING TO ME, BUT THAT HAPPENED.

SO I DECIDED THEY ARE THE LOWEST BIDDER, I DECIDED WHY ARE THEY LOWER THAN US. CURRENT HAULER AND I SAID I WILL TAKE PICTURES OF THE BUILDING -- THE CONTAINER ON-SITE.

THE ONE CONTAINER, THE COMPACTOR AND SEPTEMBER IT TO YOU TO REVIEW. IF YOU CHECK YOUR E-MAILS.

JUST ON THAT CONTAINER, ONE, OSHA VIOLATIONS.

IT OPERATES WHERE THE DOOR IS OPEN, THE COMPACTOR.

YOU HAVE A LEAK HON THE BACK THAT IS DRAINING OUT INTO THE SEWER. ANOTHER VIOLATION.

CITY VIOLATION. YOU GOT HYDRAULIC OIL ON THE GROUND. NEVER BEEN CLEANED UP.

I SPOKE TO THE PEOPLE WHO LOAD THE CONTAINER AND THEY TELL ME THE CONTAINER HAS NEVER BEEN CLEANED.

PER THE CONTRACT, IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE CLEAN.

WE HAVE A RECYCLE CONTAINER NEXT TO IT.

NICE CLEAN, THEY DON'T WANT TO APPROACH THE DIRTY AND PUT IT IN THE RECYCLE CENTER COSTING YOU CONTAMINATION FEES.

THERE GOES YOUR MONEY UP AGAIN. ALL THESE THINGS ADDED UP IS COSTING YOU GUYS MONEY TO SAVE A DOLLAR, YOU ARE SPENDING A DOLLAR -- SPEND A DOLLAR, SAVE A DIME.

THEY ARE CHEAPER THAN US, BUT I WANT YOU TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION LIKE THE GENTLEMAN THAT DID THE PRAYER AT THE BEGINNING.

WE WANT TO YOU MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS FOR THE PEOPLE AT THE COMMUNITY. I WANTED TO BE HERE TODAY TO INFORM YOU THAT THERE IS A WHY THINGS ARE CHEAPER OUT THERE.

I DON'T BUY MY SHOES AT WALMART. I CAN PUT IT THERE, BUT I GET A BETTER SHOE THAT WILL LAST A LITTLE LONGER AND WILLING TO PAY MORE FOR THE CORRECT SERVICE. A $900 DIFFERENCE A LOT.

DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A LOT, BUT WHEN WE ASKED TO GET CONFIRMATION ON THE TONNAGE REPORT.

THIS IS INSTANT. WE HAVE SYSTEMS IN PLACE THAT ARE INSTANT. YOU WILL HAVE A DEDICATED ACCOUNT MANAGER FOR YOUR ACCOUNT.

THINGS CHANGE OVER TIME. THIS ISN'T THE SAME.

YOUR TRASH IS NOT THE SAME EVERY YEAR, EVERY MONTH.

WE HAVE AN ACCOUNT MANAGER DO A BLUEPRINT WASTE ASSESSMENT.

THOSE COMPACTORS ARE DESIGNED TO HOLD TEN TONS.

HAULING IT AT FOUR TONS. NO ONE BROUGHT IT TO YOUR ATTENTION. A CONTAINER TO LOOK AT.

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. I THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME

TO LISTEN TO ME TODAY. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: THANK YOU.

DR. MICHAEL HARBIN. >> I INITIALLY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT BUT IN LIGHT OF YOUR RECENT VOTING --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: OKAY, I WILL MARK YOU OFF.

THANK YOU. DELORES RAVEN.

>> GOOD MORNING, ANY NAME IS DELORES RABIY.

321 SEASIDE DRIVE, CORPUS CHRISTI.

I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO LIFT UP OUR LORD AAND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST. AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY A PRAYER,

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OUR FATHER WHO IS IN HEAVEN, HOLY BE THY NAME.

YOUR KINGDOM COME HERE ON THIS EARTH AS IN HEAVEN, HERE IN THIS COURTROOM, HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY, HERE IN THIS CITY, LORD, WE LIFT YOU UP AND GIVE YOU GLORY AND HONOR AND PRAISE AND WE WANT YOU TO BE HONORED, LORD, IN THIS CITY, IN THIS COUNTY, LORD, IN THIS COURT ROOM.

I THANK YOU FOR WISDOM, LORD, THAT YOU PROVIDE TO OUR COMMISSIONERS, LORD, AND OUR JUDGE.

I THANK YOU, LORD, FOR MOVING OUR HEARTS TO HONOR YOU AND GLARE PHI YOU, LORD. AND I PRAY, LORD, THAT YOU HELP US TO RESIST THE EVIL ONE. AND PROTECT US FROM HIM.

AND HIS WAYS AND HIS -- IS INFLUENCE, LORD, OVER OUR LIVES.

AND I JUST GIVE YOU ALL THE GLORY AND ALL THE PRAISE IN

JESUS'S NAME I PRAY, AMEN. >>JUDGE SCOTT: AMEN.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT THAT DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP? IF NOT, THEN I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO TERESA.

I AM -- SINCE THE DOCTOR IRARE HERE, IF YOU WILL WAIT, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY DID ASK ME TO BRING UP 3-A-15 SINCE YOU ARE HERE BEFORE YOU ALL LEAVE. AND THAT IS TO RECEIVE AN UPDATE REGARDING CHRISTUS SPOHN AND THE DECISION TO DECIMATE THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL COMMUNITY IN NUECES COUNTY AND THE EFFECTS ON OUR CITIZENS AND ALL RELATED MATTERS.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: 3-A-15, JUDGE?

>>JUDGE SCOTT: YES, 3-A-15 AND GET THIS BEFORE YOU LEAVE AND GET YOU BACK TO WORK. WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO.

WE DON'T WANT TO HOLD YOU HERE SO LONG.

COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT WILL BE VERY QUICK -- EXCUSE ME. VERY QUICK.

THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT MET YESTERDAY AND I WANTED TO LET THE COURT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE.

THE SPOHN CE RGZ -- CEO AND SEEMED TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT ABOUT THE MATTER.

I THINK THAT IS A SEMI POSITIVE ACTION.

AND I AM HOPING THAT DOES HAPPEN.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT MEETING IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN THIS WEEK.

I THINK IT IS NOW IN THE HANDS OF THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND SPOHN, JUDGE, AND I THINK IT WILL BE BEST SUITED FOR THEM TO MEET AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY CAN DO.

I DO KNOW THERE ARE OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES.

IF SPOHN IS NOT INTERESTED IN KEEPING THE PROGRAM.

THEY ARE INTERESTED IN KEEPING 9 PROGRAM AND ENCOURAGING TO ME.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COURT CONTINUES TO BE AWARE OF THE TIMINGNESS OF THIS. THE 600 ATHLETES ARE WAITING TO HEAR WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVIEW THIS YEAR. WE ARE DEFINITELY AN A CRUCIAL TIME FRAME. ANYONE OBJECT THE COURT, ANY OTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL, CAN WEIGH IN WITH THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT DISTRICT AND SPOHN, THAT WILL BE APPRECIATED IN A VERY RESPECTFUL MANNER. I THINK THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT CLEARLY ARTICULATED THEY ARE VERY, VERY INTERESTED IN HELPING THIS PROGRAM FINANCIALLY YESTERDAY AND THAT WAS GOOD TO HEAR AS WELL, BECAUSE THIS WILL AFFECT THE INDIGENT CARE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT IS WHAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT IS CHARGED WITH. WILL AFFECT MANY INCLUDING THE COMMUNITY AND EVERYBODY WILL DO IT.

I THINK THOSE MEETINGS WILL HAPPEN THIS WEEK IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD CERTAINLY WANT TO CHECK IN.

MANY DOCTORS WERE HERE. I APPRECIATE MR. MAREZ BEING HERE. I KNOW JUDGE SCOTT WAS HERE YESTERDAY AS WELL. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE IS ON QUORUM. SHE TOOK -- LEFT THE ROOM WHEN COMMISSIONER MAREZ AND I WAS IN THERE.

I DON'T THINK IT WAS A QUORUM VIOLATION.

AND THEY ARE VERY INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE OUR COMMUNITY IS SERVED. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NEW OTHER THAN THAT. I AM HOPING THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. THAT WE WILL MEET AND LET US KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. I THINK WHEN THOSE PEOPLE MEET, THAT IS WHERE THE DOCTORS NEED TO GO.

WE AS A COURT HAVE APPROPRIATELY PUT THIS OUT TO THE PUBLIC VENUE WITH ISSUES LIKE THIS. BUT SEEMS TO BE BETWEEN THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT DISTRICT AND THE SPOHN.

THAT IS NOT TO SAY I WON'T BE WATCHING, CHECKING IN, DOING EVERYTHING I CAN TO KEEP THAT BALL -- KEEP THAT TRAIN ON THE TRACK. AND SO I THINK WE HAVE MADE PROGRESS IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

WE CARE WHAT GOES ON WITH THIS COMMUNITY, THIS COMMISSIONERS COURT. AND APPRECIATE THE TIME TO GET THIS ROLLING. I DON'T THINK WITHOUT THAT INITIAL MEETING THAT THE COURT ALLOWED US TO HAVE -- THE JUDGE ALLOWED US TO HAVE WE WOULD BE ANYWHERE ON THIS ISSUE AND I

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THINK HOLDING OUT A LOT OF HOPE THAT WE WILL MAKE PROGRESS.

THANK YOU, JUDGE, I APPRECIATE IT.

DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NEW IF THE DOCTORS OR COMMISSIONER MAREZ WANT TO ADD. I DIDN'T WANT THEM TO SIT FOR AN ITEM THAT DIDN'T HAVE MUCH SUBSTANCE THAN AN UPDATE THAT WE

HAD YESTERDAY. >>JUDGE SCOTT: THANK YOU.

DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WISH -- COMMISSIONER MAREZ.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: THANK YOU FOR CREATING THAT COMMITTEE IN SUCH A SHORT NOTICE THAT WE HAD TO CALL A MEETING TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE. TALK ABOUT POWER OF THE PEOPLE.

YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF WHITE COATS WALK IN THE ROOM, YOU STOP THE CONVERSATION AND ALL THE FOCUS AND ATTENTION IS ON YOU.

WE HEARD ONE OF YOUR KIDS LAST WEEK TALK OF SUPERHEROES.

YOU TRULY ARE. THIS HOW PUBLIC CAN GET INVOLVED POSITIVELY TO CREATE CHANGE AND CREATE ADVOCACY AND YOU DO THAT ALL THE TIME FOR YOUR PATIENTS.

AND SOMETIMES, RIGHT, YOU GOT TO DO IT FOR YOURSELF.

YOU AND ALL THOSE HERE FOR THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR INSIGHT. WE HAVE SEEN EACH OTHER QUITE A LOT. I MENTIONED TO YOU EARLIER TAKING THE TO HE TOE THAT I HAD TO PAY A CO-PAY.

I FEEL OBLIGATED TO DO THAT BECAUSE I AM SEEING SO MANY DOCTORS RIGHT NOW. I WILL TELL MY REGULAR PHYSICIANS THAT I WON'T NEED TO SEE THEM FOR A WHILE.

THIS IS NOT OVER. WE NEED TO BE VIMG LAND.

PROVIDE OVERSIGHT. ALL OF US CONNECTED.

THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION THAT THERE IS A WILLING CONTINUES TO HAVE THIS DIALOGUE DISCUSSED FURTHER AND EXPLORE WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS. I DON'T THINK IT IS A MATTER OF "IF" WE ARE GOING TO KEEP IT. IT IS "WHERE." THIS COMMUNITY IS FULL ON IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

SO PLEASE CONTINUE TO CONTACT US, REACH OUT TO US.

WE WILL HAVE, I AM SURE, PERIODIC UPDATES.

THE COMMITTEE WE HAD, I AM SURE, WILL PLAN ANOTHER MEETING SOON.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE THAT ENGAGEMENT WITH THE DOCTORS, WITH THE COURT, THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND, OF COURSE, THE OUTSIDE CON STITCH TWHAENTS WERE PART OF THIS URBAN AND OTHERS.

THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

THANK YOU -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: ANYBODY ELSE?

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, I WAS GOING TO ASK IF SOMEBODY CAN PRESCRIBE ME A Z-PACK, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: EXCUSE ME, JUDGE, I DO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: CONCERNING SPOHN.

I USED TO WORK AT SPOHN WHEN IT WAS ONLY FIVE FLOORS.

AT THAT TIME THEY WERE MAKING PLANS TO RAISE IT TO TEN FLOORS.

AND SPOHN HAS ALWAYS -- ALWAYS BEEN ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

BUT IT IS GOING TO TAKE OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS TO GET INVOLVED, BECAUSE WHEN SPOHN TOOK -- TOOK THE RESPONSIBILITY OF INDIGENT CARE, OKAY, I THINK THEY NEED TO STAND WITH THAT.

AND WE NEED THE DOCTORS HERE. I PERSONALLY HAD TO DRIVE TO VICTORIA OR HOUSTON TO TAKE MY WIFE TO SEE A SPECIALIST.

WE DO NEED THE DOCTORS HERE AND WE NEED THE ATTENTION IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM AREA. WITH THAT, YOU GUYS ARE DOING GREAT WORK. THANK YOU.

DON'T STOP NOW. >>JUDGE SCOTT: THANK YOU.

I AM SURE YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO STAY, BUT IN ORDER FOR YOU TO GET OUT OF HERE AND FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN

-- THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: LET ME JUST SAY. COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ BROUGHT IT UP -- A GOOD. YOU KNOW, I SUPPORT -- TOTALLY SUPPORT THE RESIDENCY PROGRAM, BUT WHETHER WE HAVE IT OR NOT, I THINK OUR MISSION SHOULD TO BE BRING DOCTORS TO NUECES COUNTY, ESPECIALLY -- ESPECIALLY DOCTORS.

BECAUSE I GOT TO TAKE MY WIFE TO AUSTIN JUST TO GO SEE A NEUROLOGIST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE GOOD NEUROLOGISTS HERE IN CORPUS CHRISTI. WE HAVE SOME AND NOT A SPECIALIST ON PARKINSON'S AND OTHER THINGS.

MY CONCERN IS BRINGING SPECIALISTS TO NUECES COUNTY FOR AT BRAIN, FOR PARKINSON'S, FOR THE HIPS, OR OTHER MAJOR, MAJOR MEDICINES, OTHER MAJOR -- THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR FAMILY. FAMILY MEDICINE.

THAT IS MY -- MY CONCERN IS THAT THE RESIDENCY.

MAYBE A REPLACEMENT FOR THE RESIDENCY THAT WILL MAKE TWICE AS BETTER. MAYBE NOT.

BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS ON THE TABLE NOW FOR THE NUECES COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT. AND ALSO SPOHN TO -- TO GO TO THE TABLE TO SAY, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE.

HOW DO WE HANDLE IT, HOW DO WE DO.

WHO IS GOING TO SPEND MONEY. WHO IS NOT GOING TO SPEND MONEY.

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WE ARE ASKING SPOHN TO SPEND OVER $2 MILLION, $3 MILLION.

IF WE ARE GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT, WE NEED TO PUT MONEY ON THE TABLE TOO. IF NUECES COUNTY WANTS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT, PUT MONEY ON THE TABLE.

COMPLAINING OF THE NORTH BEACH, WE PUT MONEY ON THE TABLE, $4 MILLION. COMPLAIN OF THE BRIDGE, WE CAN'T BECAUSE PUT $12 MILLION. WE CAN COMPLAIN OF THOSE THINGS BECAUSE WE HAVE MONEY -- MONEY ON THE TABLE.

FOR US TO COMPLAIN AND TELL SOMEBODY YOU HAVE TO DO IT THIS WAY, I DON'T THINK IT IS RIGHT FOR US TO DO THAT, BUT LI LIKE BOLERO, THEY REDUCE 100 PEOPLE TOMORROW.

IS IT OUR JOB TO DO A SOLUTION TO TELL VALERO THAT YOU HAVE TO HAIR THEM. WHERE DO I STOP.

I AM JUST SAYING RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE AS WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE. THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND SPOHN.

HOPEFULLY THEY CAN COME TOGETHER AND WORK SOMETHING OUT ARE, OUR RESIDENCY OR SOMETHING ELSE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.

BUT WE GOT TO WORK IT OUT SOMEHOW.

AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY HAS GOT TOGETHER AND AGREE ON SOMETHING THAT WILL BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST SPOHN. NOT JUST THE DOCTORS, NOT JUST WHATEVER WHATEVER, BUT WILL FIT OUR COMMUNITY.

THE INDIGENT CARE IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST CONCERN AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS IS INDIGENT CARE. SPOHN IS VERY GENEROUS WITH INDIGENT CARE WHEN WE FOR DOWN THE MEMORIAL HOSPITAL.

SO WE GAVE SOMETHING FOR SOMETHING.

WE DIDN'T JUST TEAR IT DOWN AND DID NOTHING.

THEY BUILT THE CLINIC. SO, AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY HOPEFULLY THIS THING CAN BE WORKED OUT.

AND -- BUT I STRONGLY BELIEVE WHEN I GO TO THE ER, I DON'T LIKE TO WAIT EITHER. AND SOME OF THE THINGS I LIKE TO DEAL WITH. AND WORK THINGS OUT.

THANK YOU, HAVE A GREAT DAY AND GOD BLESS.

[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]

>>JUDGE SCOTT: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, ALL OF YOU.

WHILE THEY ARE MOVING OUT, IF ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA YOU WANT TO PULL FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.

IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THOSE, COMMISSIONERS.

WE HAD TO REPRINT BECAUSE WE STAMPED KARA'S UPSIDE DOWN.

WE WERE IN A HURRY AND WE PUNCHED IT ON THERE.

YES, JUST A REPRINT. IF YOU CAN LOOK AT YOUR CONSENT AGENDA. IF YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS THAT YOU WISH TO PULL FOR ANY DISCUSSION, IF YOU WOULD LET ME KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE. OTHERWISE, I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION TO PASS THE CONSENT AGE

AGENDA. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO

MOVED. >> SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I WOULD LIKE TO PULL G I FORGOT WHICH ONE IT WAS. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK

ABOUT G. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: JUST G? BRENT, YOU WANT TO AMEND YOUR MOTION EXCLUDING PIE TIM G FOR

FURTHER DISCUSSION? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YES,

MA'AM -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: COMMISSIONER MAREZ, YOUR SECOND. A MOTION AND A SECOND TO PASS THE CONSENT AGENDA EXCLUDING ITEM G.

[G. Accept for record purposes, the executed lease agreements for FY 2023-2024 at the Nueces County Airport: 1. Hangar M-4 - Mark Thomas 2. Hangar M-5 - Jim Albert 3. Hangar T-3 - Mark Thomas 4. Hangar T-4 - Jerry Hunsaker 5. Hangar T-5 - Robert Whitlock 6. Hangar T-6 - Jerry W. Lunceford 7. Hangar T-7 - David Rasmussen 8. Hangar T-8 - Andrew Kirkpatrick 9. Hangar T-9 - Wayne Hunter 10. Hangar - T-11 - Sean Gilland 11. Hangar T-12 - Leo Mendez 12. Hangar T-13 - Mark Rock 13. Hangar T-14 - Mark Harrison 14. Hangar T-15 Thomas Perrigue 15. Hangar T-16 - T-17 - Guillermo Pliego 16. Hangar T-18 - Tim Bowen 17. Hangar T-19 - Josh Hopkins 18. Hangar T-20 - John Reed]

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

AND THEN COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, ITEM G ON THE AIRPORT LEASES.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: AGAIN, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS SEVERAL TIMES. WHEN IT COMES TO THE ONLY ITEMS LIKE THIS, I THINK WE NEED TO PUT THE AMOUNTS -- THERE MAY BE A BACK-UP TO IT, BUT SOMETIMES WE GET THE DRAFT FIRST AND WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE REGULAR AGENDA TO COME OUT.

SO I DON'T THINK IT TAKES MUCH TO PUT THEM OUT HERE ON THE AGENDA SO WE CAN JUST LOOK AT IT AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE BACK. AND I THINK SOME OF THIS, TO ME ARE STILL LOW -- STILL LOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ARE STILL LOW. WHEN YOU PAY $120, $120, YOU KNOW, FOR A HANGER. WHO IS MAKING $1 20.

THE HIGHEST IS $250. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: LOOK AT MAKING CHANGES ON THE RENTAL FEES.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: 180, 180, 180.

YOU GO ANYWHERE ELSE, YOU AIN'T GOING TO PAY 180.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN GET INTO THERE AS

WELL. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN. I THOUGHT WE HAD DONE IT

ALREADY, BUT MAYBE NOT. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: IS HE ONLINE.

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JOHN, EVERYBODY FROM THE AIRPORT?

JOHN? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHEN IT IS ON A AGENDA THEY SHOULD BE HERE OR IN ZOOM.

>>>JUDGE SCOTT: I THINK -- >> YES, MA'AM, I'M HERE.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: I THOUGHT YOU WERE THERE.

>> SURE, I -- I FOLLOWED THE SURROUNDING AIRPORTS.

WE ARE IN THE UPPER END OF THE MIDDLE OF PRICE RANGE.

THE TWO AIRPORTS THAT ARE ABOVE US PROVIDE MORE SERVICES AND THEIR TWO HANGARS ARE BIGGER THAN OURS.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS, YOU KNOW, COME NEXT YEAR, WE NEED TO RAISE HANGAR RENTS JUST TO KEEP UP.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: GIVE US WHAT OTHER OFFER THAT WE DON'T OFFER, YOU KNOW. GIVE US A BREAKDOWN.

>> ARANSAS COUNTY, THEIR HANGAR IS BIGGER RIGHT SIDE 395.

INGLESIDE. $400 -- $435.

CENTEN IS $200. BISHOP IS 10.

ALEX HAS NO T HANGARS. WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE BUT THE

UPPER END OF THE MIDDLE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHEN YOU SAY THEY OFFER MORE THAN WHAT WE OFFER.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: SPACE IT SOUNDS LIKE.

SPACE. >> 123 HANGARS ARE LARGER.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: OFFER SNACKS AND COFFEE AND ALL THAT STUFF. THAT IS A PLUS.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: MR. COX.

>> YES, SIR. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: DO YOU NO KNOW THEIR SQUARE FOOTAGE VERSUS OUR SQUARE FOOTAGE.

>> OURS IS ABOUT 1450 I BELIEVE AND THEIRS ARE 1500.

SOME ARE BIGGER. SOME ARE A LITTLE LESS, LIKE 1490. OURS ARE ROUGHLY 42 X 35.

THEIRS ARE 50 X 40, OR 52 X 40. I DIDN'T DO THE MATH ON THAT.

FROM WHAT THEY WERE TELLING ME ON THE PHONE.

OUR HANGARS -- MANY THE SMALLER TWIN CITIES PLANE WILL GET IN

THERE, BUT A TIGHT FIT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: MAYBE WE CAN DO AN ASSESSMENT ON THAT --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: EVALUATION. IN THE MEANTIME, A MOTION TO

PASS THIS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SO

MOVED. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ:

SECOND. >>JUDGE SCOTT: A MOTION TO PASS AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES.

[1. Discuss and consider selection of Acrisure, LLC DBA Carlisle Insurance as the sole broker service under section 262.036 of the Texas Local Government Code; adopt order; authorize and approve a professional services agreement.]

THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM 1. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER SELECTION OF ACRISURE LOW-PRESSURE SYSTEM LOW-PRESSURE SYSTEMC.

MR. CARLISLE INSURANCE SOLE BROKER SERVICE OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT ADOPT ORDER, AUTHORIZE AND APPROVE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT. WE HAVE MULTIPLE THINGS.

DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN ANYTHING OR MICHAEL ROBINSON, EVERYBODY WANT TO COME AND TELL US WHAT THIS IS? TIM EVER REST. IS HE IN HERE? DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT? RISK MANAGEMENT.

>> GOOD MORNING, BEFORE THE COURT THIS MORNING IS THE RENEWAL OF THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT.

OUR CURRENT ONE EXPIRES NOVEMBER 1 OF THIS YEAR THIS CONTRACT NOVEMBER 2 AND RUN THROUGH APRIL 30, 2025.

THE GOOD THING OF THIS CONTRACT, NO COST INCREASE COMPARED TO LAST YEAR. 150 K.

THIS YEAR 150 K, I BELIEVE THIS IS A GREAT DEAL FOR THE COUNTY SINCE THEY ARE NOT CHARTING A PERCENTAGE ON THE $ MILLION POLICIES WE TOOK OUT THIS YEAR. JUBLGZ JUDGE THE SAME AS WE HAD LAST YEAR. SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE YOU IN THE BACK THERE. I APOLOGIZE.

I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS AND SELECTION TO AUTHORIZE

PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SECOND

-- >>JUDGE SCOTT: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONERS? YES, GO AHEAD.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: IS THIS A RENEWAL OR A NEW --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: RENEWAL. SAME PRICE AS LAST YEAR.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I KNOW, BUT ARE WE GOING OUT TO SEE IF ANYTHING ELSE IS OUT THERE? I NKNOW HAS BEEN WITH US FOR 15

18 YEARS NOW. >> I THINK WE ARE ON OUR THIRD CONTRACT WITH CARLISLE. I KNOW WHEN JUDGE CANALES CAME

ON WENT OUT FOR RFQ AND RFP. >>JUDGE SCOTT: HOW MANY RENEWALS

ON THAT CONTRACT. >> TWO.

>> WE HAVE ONLY BEEN HERE TWO YEARS.

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>>JUDGE SCOTT: YOU ONLY HAVE BEEN HERE TWO YEARS.

SO YOU HAVE THIS NEXT YEAR OF THE SECOND OF YOUR RENEWALS.

THE CONTRACT ALLOWED FOR TWO RENEWALS.

IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. SO

SORRY? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: CARLISLE HAS BEEN WITH US MORE THAN THAT.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: ON THIS JOB. NO, THEY HAVE BEEN OUR INSURANCE FOR A LONG TIME. YES, YES.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THIS ONE HERE.

ON THIS ONE HERE. >>JUDGE SCOTT: DO YOU KNOW?

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ON THIS ONE HERE BUT NOT -- OKAY.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: MICHAEL ROBINSON, IS THAT CORRECT WHAT I AM SAYING? THEY WERE AWARDED THE CONTRACT AND THE SECOND OF THE RENEWAL OF THAT FIRST INITIAL.

>> THE COURT SELECTED THEM. RIGHT.

AND THEY APPROVED IT WHEN JUDGE CANALES IS HERE.

ALTHOUGH HE HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS MUCH LONGER THAN THAT TIME.

HE HAS ONLY BEEN WITH THE COUNTY.

PRIOR TO CARLISLE WITH HISSEN BOTH THAT --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: THIS IS OKAY FOR US TO VOTE NOW ON THAT SAME SELECTION. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT FOR BID.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >>JUDGE SCOTT: THAT IS WHAT HE WAS ASKING. A RENEWAL.

THAT'S ALL I WANTED WAS CLARIFICATION.

A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE MR.

[2. Discuss and consider amending Health Services Agreement between Nueces County, Armor Correctional Health Services, and Nueces County Hospital District to remove Hospital District from Agreement and create a new, additional two-party Agreement between the County and Hospital District for the District to provide funding to the County for services provided under the Health Services Agreement.]

CARLISLE TOO. >> VERY MUCH APPRECIATED --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: ITEM NUMBER 2, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AMENDING THE HEALTH SERVICE BETWEEN ARMY HEALTH SERVICES AND THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. MR. HIP IS HERE AND BASICALLY WHAT WE DO WITH ALL THE SERVICES YOU PROVIDE FOR US.

>> CORRECT, JUDGE. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: DO WE HAVE

TO ADOPT THE ORDER. >>JUDGE SCOTT: I DID A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

DO WE NEED A SEPARATE ORDER FOR THAT? LET'S BACK UP ONE. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE ORDER AUTHORIZING THEM, CARLISLE KAHN INSURANCE AS THE SOLE BROKER SERVICE SINCE HE IS SAYING WE NEED TWO SEPARATE VOTES. WE HAVE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

I THOUGHT I SAID THAT IN MY FIRST NOTION, AND IT WE WILL DO TWO SEPARATE. BACK TO YOU.

SORRY. >> NO PROBLEM.

JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, THIS ITEM HAS TO DO -- TWO CONTRACTS ATTACHED TO THE ITEM. THE ITEM IS TO REMOVE THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT FROM THE THREE-PARTY AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY, THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND ARMOR FOR THE PURPOSES OF REMOVING US FROM THE LIABLE CHAIN AND THE SECOND AGREEMENT IS TO CREATE A MECHANISM FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO PAY THE COUNTY THE MONEY THAT IS NECESSARY TO COVER THE CONTRACT AND THE REASON THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT WOULD LIKE TO BE OUT OF THIS AGREEMENT, AT LEAST IN TERMS OF THE THREE-PARTY AGREEMENT IS FOR THE PURPOSES OF GETTING US OUT OF THE LIABILITIES REACH. NOT ONLY THIS JAIL VENDOR BUT UNDER THE PRIOR JAIL HEALTH CARE VENDOR, THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT WAS ROUTINELY DRAWN INTO LAWSUITS ABOUT MEDICAL CARE PROVIDED AT THE JAIL AND IT WAS SIMPLY BECAUSE WE WERE A PARTY IN THE AGREEMENT. ALL THE PRIOR AGREEMENTS AND IN THIS ONE, ALL THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT'S ROLE IS TO PAY FOR THE COST OF HEALTH CARE AT THE JAIL.

AND THAT INCLUDES COST OF HEALTH CARE AT THE JAIL AT THE MCKENZIE ANNEX AND ALSO TO SOME DEGREE WITH OTHER MONEY FOR THE JUVENILE DETENTION FACILITY. SO WHAT WE ARE ASKING THE BOARD MET YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, AS YOU ALL KNOW.

AND APPROVED AN AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT TO REMOVE US AND TO ESTABLISH A SEPARATE AGREEMENT FOR US TO PAY YOU.

AND SO I WILL GET A SIGNED AMENDMENT TO YOU WHILE IT IS NOT IN YOUR PACKET, BUT I GOT THE AUTHORITY YESTERDAY TO SIGN THAT, AND THE CHANGE WILL BE EFFECTIVE ON DECEMBER 1.

THAT IS THE NEXT RENEWAL OR THE FIRST RENEWAL PERIOD FOR THE AGREEMENT. AND THEN OUR INTENT IS TO USE THAT FOOTPRINT OR THAT MECHANISM FOR FUNDING JAIL HEALTH CARE AGREEMENTS IN 9 FUTURE SO OUR ROLE IS WITH YOU.

AND YOUR ROLE IS WITH -- IS WITH THE HEALTH CARE PROVIDER.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SO MO

MOVED. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ:

SECOND. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY WOULD LIKE

TO SPEAK. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THANKS, JUDGE. MY QUESTIONS ARE JUST TO MAKE SURE I AM UNDERSTANDING THIS. I UNDERSTAND WHERE THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT IS COMING FROM ON THIS. THEY WANT TO LESSEN THEIR LIABILITIES. AT THE SAME TIME, I WANT TO MAKE

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SURE IN THIS LAST ROUND, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, Y'ALL HAD US STAY IN THE SELECTION OF THIS ARMOR, IS THAT RIGHT, JOHNNY?

>> OUR COMMITMENT, COMMISSIONER, WAS TO FUND THE AGREEMENT.

THE PROCESS USED TO SELECT HARMER IF THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO WAS A DECISION BY THE COURT.

THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. >> DID YOU ALL NOT MAKE A

RECOMMENDATION ON THAT THOUGH? >> COMMISSIONER, THERE WERE -- I WAS ON -- ON THE COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE PROPOSAL.

AND BECAUSE OF SOME ACTIONS OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL, I HAD TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM PARTICIPATING IN THAT.

AND BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE NAMED ME, PARTICULARLY I COULDN'T HAVE MY ASSISTANT PROVIDE OUR INPUT INTO THE AGREEMENT.

YOU KNOW INFORMALLY WE WERE CERTAINLY INVOLVED WITH MICHAEL IN FORMULATING THE AGREEMENT. -- NOT THE AGREEMENT BUT TTHE RPP AND WHATEVER WAS IN THE RAINFALLRFP THAT NEEDED TO ROLE OVER IN THE AGREEMENT.

WE HAD INPUT ON THAT PART OF THINGS BUT WE WERE NOT ON THE

SELECTION, NO. >> YOU WEREN'T BECAUSE YOU HAD TO RECUSE YOURSELF. SO YOU WERE, BUT YOU WILL TO RECUSE YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU WERE THE ONLY ONES WITH THE ORDER, IS

THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING? >> WHAT I AM SAYING I WAS APPOINTED TO BE ON THE REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR THE SUBMITTALS PROVIDED AND WE BEGAN THE PROCESS AND BECAUSE OF AN EVENT I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER. I HAD TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM PARTICIPATING IN THAT -- IN GOING ANY FURTHER AND MAKING A

RECOMMENDATION OF THE AWARD. >> RIGHT, IN THE FUTURE ON THESE. BECAUSE -- THIS -- THIS WILL OBVIOUSLY GO OUT AGAIN AT THIS POINT AND ANY AGREEMENTS THAT WE ARE COMING UP ON -- EXCUSE ME -- IF THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT IS JUST GOING TO BE A FUNDING RECOGNITION, YOU WOULD NO LONGER BE INVOLVED IN THE SELECTION PROCESS OR ANY OF THAT.

I UNDERSTAND I AM NOT CRITICIZING, BUT I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THE EXPECTATION TOO THAT THERE WILL BE NO MORE PARTICIPATION ON SELECTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AS WELL.

SO YOU ARE JUST FUNDING THIS? >> NO, COMMISSIONER, I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE PRESUMPTION. THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT WILL KEEP IT SPEND SELF INVOLVED IN PROVIDING THE KNOWN THINGS PROVIDED FOR THE RFP AND PROVIDING TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, TO MICHAEL AND OTHERS. I COULD BE ON THE REVIEW COMMITTEE IF YOU APPOINT ME AS LONG AS I DON'T HAVE AN EVENT OCCUR THAT WILL HAVE ME RECUSE MYSELF.

WE COMMIT OURSELVES OF STAYING INVOLVED IN THE FUTURE OF THE RFPS AND HELPING TO DETERMINE THE CAUSE OF THE

CONTRACT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I GUESS I AM ASKING BECAUSE IMPLORE -- FOR ME THE LESS COOKS IN THE KITCHEN. IF Y'ALL ARE NOT WANT BE TO BE A PARTY TO IT, MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHY WOULD YOU CONTINUE -- AS LONG AS YOU ARE FUNDING IT AND SUPPORTING IT, THERE WILL BE NO NEED FOR YOU ON THE SELECTION ECONOMY ANYMORE JUST A FUNDING MECHANISM AND YOU ARE WANTING TO BE OUT OF THE LIABILITY PART OF IT WHICH AGAIN I GET SOMEONE CAN COME BACK AND SUE YOU FOR BEING ON THE SELECTION COMMITTEE FOR THAT MATTER.

IF YOU WANT TO BE OUT OF THE LIABILITY, YOU WOULD WANT TO GO

THROUGH ALL THE LIABILITY. >> WE HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS OF THAT PROCESS. CERTAINLY THE DISTRICT IS VOLUNTEERING TO CONTINUE IN THE PROCESS, BECAUSE OF OUR EXPERTISE IN THIS AREA. AND OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THESE CONTRACTS IN THE PAST. TO SUPPORT THE HER REF FOR THERE IS A NEW SHERIFF OR WHATEVER IT AT THAT TIME.

SO I -- I THINK COMMISSIONER FOR TODAY'S PURPOSES, WE KIND OF LAID OUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO. WE LAID OUT OUR REASONING AND STUFF LIKE THAT. WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WHAT OUR ROLE IS GOING FORWARD AND THE SELECTION AND REVIEW PROC PROCESS.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JENNY, ARE YOU HERE?

>>JUDGE SCOTT: SIS COIS. >> I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF JENNY.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THIS DOESN'T PUT NUECES COUNTY IN ANY WORSE POSITION LIABILITY-WISE OR ANYTHING LIKE? BECAUSE WHEN SOMEONE GETS OUT OF SOMETHING, WE GET TO ASK THOSE

QUESTIONS. >> WE ARE IN THE SAME SITUATION.

AND WITH THE FUNDING A SIMILAR AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND THE COUNTY SO THE FUNDING REMAINS THE SAME.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: OKAY. I AM ALL FOR GETTING THESE THINGS -- YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO HAVE THEM ALL IN WRITING BECAUSE I THINK WHAT I HEARD YESTERDAY IS THAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT

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BOARD VOTED WITHOUT GETTING ANY INPUT FROM US TO TAKE THE SPOHN EMPLOYMENT IN THE PAST AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS ALWAYS IMPROVING AND A HANDSHAKE AGREEMENT.

WE NEED TO HAVE THESE AGREEMENTS IN WRITING, EVERYTHING.

IF WE HAVE THEM IN THE SELECTION COMMITTEE, WE NEED TO HAVE THEM.

WE NEED TO HAVE POLICIES. BECAUSE THE RUG GOT PULLED OUT UNDER US WITH SPOHN AND THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

THEY VOTED TO. >>JUDGE SCOTT: ON A LATER AGENDA ITEM GOMZ GOMZ COMMISSIONER, CAN I SAY SOMETHING?

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM STILL TALKING.

IF YOU LET ME FINISH, THEN YOU CAN.

I AM STILL TALKING. WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO DO, CISCO, LOOK AT ALL THE AGREEMENTS WE HAVE WITH THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING BECAUSE BOARD MEMBERS CHANGE, COMMISSIONERS COURTS CHANGES.

WE NEED TO HAVE EVERYTHING IN AGREEMENT WITH THEM.

I THINK I SAID THAT TO JENNY BEFORE BECAUSE I APPRECIATE THE HECK OUT OF OUR HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND THEY HAVE DONE GREAT WORK FOR US, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, A LOT OF THE AGREEMENTS WE HAVE ARE NOT IN WRITING HOW WE ARE DEALING WITH THESE THINGS. I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT HOW WE DEAL WITH EVERYTHING IN THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND PUT EVERYTHING WE HAVE IN WRITING AND SO WE CAN --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: LITTLE BY LITTLE.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: WE HAVE BEEN DOING THOSE THINGS.

I THINK THAT IS JUST THE LAST PART OF THIS -- WITH THIS AMOUNT

AND CONTRACT, YES. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ALSO, COMMISSIONER -- ARE YOU FINISHED.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I SUPPORT DOING IT.

I GET IT. THE RIGHT THING FOR TO YOU DO.

JOHNNY, I GET YOUR ASKING AND I SUPPORT DOING THIS.

BUT, AGAIN, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THIS IS ALL WE ARE DOING HERE. NOT CHANGING EVERYTHING ELSE WITH PARANORMALER. NOT PRODUCING THE PERFORMANCE BOND AND DOING ANYTHING. OTHER THINGS OUT THERE THAT I HEAR PERCOLATING. ALL WE ARE DOING TODAY IS MAKING IT TO A TWO-PARTY AGREEMENT, CISCO, THAT RIGHT?

>> YES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NO OTHER

CHANGES FOR TODAY. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT IS THE ONLY CHANGE FOR TODAY.

AND WE HAVE A WRITTEN AGREEMENT WITH THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT REGARDING THE FUNDING AS YOU WERE REQUIRING ABOUT.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: OKAY, GREAT.

I APPRECIATE YOU TELLING ME. JUDGE, WORKING ON GETTING THINGS IN WRITE SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT AND I APPRECIATE THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND ALL THAT THEY DO.

I SEE YOUR ASKING FOR THIS. THANK YOU.

>>>JUDGE SCOTT: COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CHESNEY EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE BE IN WRITING AND WE ARE WORKING ON IT SLOWLY BUT SURELY AS IT COMES UP.

HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING WILL BE IN WRITING, A CONTRACT, A WRITTEN CONTRACT BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY AND THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND WE CAN UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER AND WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT.

BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT LAST TIME, I KNOW WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM. THERE WAS -- BEFORE ARMOR AN INCIDENT. A LAWSUIT FILED.

AND DRAG THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT INTO IT AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. I THINK IN THE LONG RUN, YOU WERE IN A COMMITTEE BECAUSE WE ASKED YOU TO BE IN A COMMITTEE.

WE APPOINTED YOU TO BE IN A COMMITTEE, NOT BECAUSE THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT WANTED YOU THERE, WHATEVER.

BUT THAT CAME FROM US AND WE WANT TO POINT ANYBODY FROM THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT, IT IS UP TO US.

SO, YOU KNOW, OUR CALL TO MAKE THAT CALL.

AS FAR AS THE WRITTEN CONTRACTS, WE NEED TO WORK ON THEM BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER. AND WHATEVER WE CAN GET OUT THERE TO DO IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, I SUPPORT IT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND ON THIRD PARTY AND YOU ARE RIGHT, THE CONTRACT SHOULD BE WITH US AND WITH HARMER AND -- AND THE JAIL, RIGHT. SO -- AND I THINK YOU ALL -- LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, THE MONEY WILL TAKE CARE OF IT.

I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE APPOINTED YOU TO BE ON THE

COMMITTEE. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: GOOD POINT.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR AN AMENDMENT TO REMOVE THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT FROM THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE NOW ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED. SORRY, BRENT.

ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES.

THEN I GUESS WE NEED A SEPARATE MOTION -- A SEPARATE MOTION TO APPROVE AN INTERLOCAL WITH THE COUNTY AND THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE AMOUNTS THAT YOU WERE FUNDING JUST LIKE WE DID ON THE OTHER CONTRACT.

I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SECOND.

>>>JUDGE SCOTT: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES.

[3. Discuss and consider the following: selection of Balcones Field Services for dune permit application review assistance for the Nueces County Coastal Parks Department for fiscal year 2024; approval of order; authorize and approve a professional services agreement with Balcones Field Services for dune permit application review assistance; and all related matters.]

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, JOHNNY.

YES. ITEM NUMBER 3, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE SELECTION OF BALCONES FIELD SERVICES FOR DUNE PERMIT APPLICATION. MR. CROSS.

THANK YOU. >> PRETTY MUCH JUST STANDARD PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT. ALEX FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S

OFFICE HELPED ME. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SO

MOVED. >> GREAT, THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: A MOTION. A SECOND, IS IT YOU, BRENT.

OH, COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN, THE

[4. Authorize Escrow disbursement request #17 for Pay Application #26 in the amount of $84,558.88 from Banc of America Public Capital Corp., Payable to "ABM Building Services LLC" for Nueces County Bundled Energy Solutions Project as authorized by Director of Public Works, County Engineer. Authorize County payment of $24,750.00 for Pay Application #26 to "ABM Building Services LLC" for Services provided under Change Order #5, approved CCT 5/24/23 for the County Jail Energy Savings Project as authorized by Director of Public Works, County Engineer. Project Services, Ending September 2023 - $109,308.88 Grand Total.]

MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU.

RYE TIM NUMBER 4, AUTHORIZE DISBURSEMENT FOR PAY APPLICATION NUMBER 26 AND TWO PAYMENTS TOTALING 193 -- 109,308.88.

SO I WILL MAKE THE MOTION. >> HOW MUCH IS IT.

>> $109, 08.88. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SAYS

$84,000. >>JUDGE SCOTT: THE TOTAL AMOUNT

IS $109,000. >> THE $84,000 IS COMING FROM

BANK OF AMERICA. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I SAW

SOMETHING AND AN ATTACHMENT. >>JUDGE SCOTT: ANOTHER ITEM FOR

EXECUTIVE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NOT PART OF THAT WHERE SOME OF THAT IS INCOMPLETE WORK.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: THIS SUSPECT PART OF IT.

JUAN, YOU WANT TO COME UP. THIS INVOICE EVERYBODY IS IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS INVOICE IS PAYABLE.

THIS WORK HAS BEEN DONE ON THIS INVO

INVOICE. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: THIS ONE HE SIGNED WILLINGLY AND WE TOLD HIM

TO BE HERE TO SAY THAT. >> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, ABM AND WE LOOKED AT THE PERCENT COMPLETE FOR THE ITEMS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AS PART OF PERCENT COMPLETE.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THIS ONE HERE.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: $1 09,000?

>> THAT'S CORRECT, COMMISSIONERS.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, JUAN.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: DO YOU NEED A MOTION.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: I MADE A MOTION. I DIDN'T HAVE A SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SECOND. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.

[5. Discuss and consider approval of Memorandum of Understanding between Texas State, through its Meadows Center and Clean Coast Texas Collaborative, and Nueces County Keach Family Library establishing a collaborative and cooperative objective to identify best practices for floodplain and water pollution management, and any related matters.]

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NAY. >>JUDGE SCOTT: ITEM NUMBER 5, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN TEXAS STATE AND MEADOWS CENTER AND CLEAN COSAST TEXAS COLLABORATIVE. AND I BELIEVE THAT IS MISS IDA OUT AT THE LIBRARY. JOHN, THIS IS YOUR ITEM.

MAREZ -- SORRY, COMMISSIONER. MAREZ MARE I--

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: IT'S JOHN. JUDGE, WE HAVE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT FOR THIS PROJECT. IT IS PRETTY EXCITING.

DOESN'T COST THAT MUCH AND NOT A BIG PROJECT BUT SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS INVOLVED AND WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT.

ANY TIME WE HAVE THIS -- THIS LEVEL OF COLLABORATION WITH THE UNIVERSITY AND ALSO WITH -- I THINK UP TO FOUR DEPARTMENTS

HERE IN THE COUNTY. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS. VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE.

THIS RAIN GARDEN WILL MAKE A VERY BIG IMPACT IN OUR LIBRARY AS AN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT AND HAPPY THAT SCOTT CROSS HAS COMMUNICATED TEXAS STATE AND CHRISTINA LOPEZ AND RECOMMENDED THEM BECAUSE FOR ONE, BEAUTIFUL ARCHITECTURE AT THE LIBRARY AND ALWAYS DOING A LOT OF EDUCATIONAL PROJECTS.

AND THIS WILL HELP TO ENHANCE. OF COURSE, I HAVE A GREAT LIBRARIAN CRYSTAL WHO HAD A BOOK AND ONE OF THE BOOKS FOUND, THAT A LOT OF THE LIBRARIES ARE UTILIZING GARDENS, RAIN GARDENS AS A PART OF THEIR WATER MANAGEMENT AND DRAINAGE SYSTEM AND RAIN GARDENS ABSORB AND REDUCE RUNOFF AND STORM DRAINS AND WHAT WE ARE HOPING TO MAYBE ONE DAY BECAUSE OF NOT JUST THE ARCHITECTURAL BUT EVERYTHING WE HAVE GOING ON MAYBE ONE DAY RECEIVE A CERTIFICATION BY LOW-PRESSURE SYSTEMEED.

LEADERSHIP, ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENT ALE DESIGN.

HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE WE CAN PROVIDE THAT WITH ALL THE PROJECTS WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE LIBRARY.

AND SCOTT -- >> DID YOU GET A CHANCE.

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I KNOW THE ONLY QUESTION TO TALK TO MR.PIMENTAL ON THE MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP AND UP LOOKED AT THIS AND EVERYTHING WAS FINE. OUR BUDGETS WERE CUT QUITE A BIT. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T GOING TO BE HINDERED IN ANY WAY AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS BEST.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THE MORE YOU ADD, THE MORE YOU

HINDER. >> WHY HE, JUDGE.

WE TALKED TO IDA AND PUBLIC WORKS WILL ASSIST WITH THE

MAINTENANCE PART OF IT. >>JUDGE SCOTT: GOOD.

I MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I HAVE A QUESTION. SPILL HELP OUT --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: OH, GOOD. >> I WANT TO SEE THIS GO.

>>>JUDGE SCOTT: COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: IT IS A GOOD PROJECT AND ALL.

WE ARE SUPPOSED TO MAINTAIN THIS FOR 15 YEARS?

>> YES, SIR. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: ANY TIME WITHIN NOSE 15 YEARS IF THEY DECIDE WE ARE NOT DOING IT PROPER, DO WE HAVE TO PAY BACK THE MONIES?

>> WHAT THE LIBRARY IS DOING. WE HAVE FUNDING IN THE LIBRARY FOR BUILDING AND MAINTENANCE AND WE CAN ALWAYS CONTACT OUR VOLUNTEERS. BECAUSE CURRENTLY WE HAVE THE GARDEN AND OUR LIBRARIANS ARE ALWAYS DOING STORYTIME AND WE HAVE PARENTS THAT LOVE THE GARDENING ASPECT OF THE PROJECT WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE LIBRARY. SO IT IS GOING TO BE A VERY, VERY SMALL AREA AND XERISCAPED. WHEN WE SPOKE TO CHRISTINE, WE CAN MAKE IT AS MINIMAL AS WE WANT AND WILL NOT BE EXPANDED.

A VERY SMALL ENTRANCE COMING INTO THE LIBRARY.

A LITTLE GATED AREA. AND A VERY SMALL AREA AND WE WILL DO OUR BEST. IN 15 YEARS, WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN. IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AT PUBLIC WORKS OR WHATEVER, WE WILL CONTINUE TO ABIDE BY THIS PROJECT. BECAUSE WE REALLY WANT IT TO CONTINUE AND EXPAND THE EDUCATIONAL COMPONENTS AT THE LIBRARY MERNZ HERNANDEZ SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PROJECT AND I SUPPORT IT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE THERE AND DO IT RIGHT SO WE WON'T GET PENALIZED.

>> THANK YOU. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: JUDGE, WE DIDN'T POINT OUT ALL THE GROUPS AND MENTION THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORT. TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY, THE MEADOWS CENTER AND CLEAN COAST TEXAS.

SCOTT CROSS WITH COASTAL PARKS. JUAN PIMENTAL WITH PUBLIC WORKS WORKS AND OUR LIBRARY SYSTEM ARE ALL INVOLVED AND I WILL BE COMMITTING A SMALL AMOUNT TO HELP -- SMALL GRANT.

AND INSTEAD OF SPENDING -- WHAT WAS IT, $50,000, SCOTT?

>> YES, SIR. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: INSTEAD OF SPENDING $50,000 AND 150% TO COVER ENGINEERING COSTS.

I SAID I WANT TO PUT IN $10,000 FROM MY BUDGET TO UTILIZE THE ENTIRE 50 FOR THE PROJECT ITSELF JUST TO A LITTLE BIGGER PROJECT.

I GOT HEARTBREAKING NEWS -- NOT REALLY HEARTBREAKING, WE KNEW FOR A WHILE BUT IDA AND CRYSTAL, THE AMOUNT OF STUDENTS PULLED TO OUR LIBRARY CYCLE, THE KEACH LIBRARY.

THEY COME OUT OF PRECINCT 1. NOT NECESSARILY ROBSTOWN.

A BIG HOMECOMING PARADE IN ROBSTOWN AND THE SPOOK FEST SPOOKTACULAR ON THE SAME DAY. I WAS TOLD WE UNDERSTAND, BUT YOU DON'T GET IT. HUNDREDS OF KIDS THAT WILL BE THERE. AND A LOT OF THEM FROM PRECINCT 1 ALREADY. HOME SCHOOLERS.

THE FAMILIES THAT GO AND PARTICIPATE SO IS STILL HEAVILY ROBSTOWN AND A LOT OF OTHER AREAS AS WELL.

AND IT HAPPENS TO BE PARKED IN ROBSTOWN.

A COUNTYWIDE EFFORT AND ALL OF US INVOLVED.

I THINK THAT IS EXCITING. JUST TO KIND OF LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THERE ARE SEVERAL GROUPS AND IT DOES BENEFIT MORE THAN ONE PARTICULAR PRECINCT. WE ARE ALL INVOLVED.

I THINK COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ HAS THE BISHOP LIBRARY -- PART OF THE LIBRARY SYSTEM. AND WE STILL SEE KIDS COME FROM THERE AS WELL. AND OVERALL, I MEAN, IT IS A

GREAT RESOURCE. >> WE COULDN'T DO THIS WITHOUT RON, BECAUSE HELPING US WITH OUR GRANT AND THE MOU WAS REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PARTNERS WILLING TO WORK WITH US. AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR PROJECTS. THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: THANK YOU. >>JUDGE SCOTT: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES.

[6. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving Work Authorization No. 1 in the amount of $126,805.00 with LJA Engineering under Master Service Contract No. 20230257-4/26 (RFQ 3232-23) for Amistad Veterans Memorial Park project.]

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>>JUDGE SCOTT: ITEM NUMBER 6, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING WORK AUTHORIZATION NUMBER 1 IN THE AMOUNT OF $126,805.

AND EDWARD, I THINK YOU ARE GOING TO PRESENT THIS ONE?

>> THE PROJECT IS LOCATED ON AMISTAD PARK.

AND A REALLY GOOD PROJECT AND ESSENTIALLY WE WILL BE REBUILDING A LOT OF THE WALKWAYS AND DOING A LOT OF THE LIGHTING

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IN PRESIDENT PARK. AND THERE IS ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO. COMMISSIONERS, AS -- AS COMMISSIONER HAS DEVELOPED THAT PARK TO A VERY NICE PARK.

WE HAVE THE VETERANS COMPONENT LOCATED IN THERE.

WE ASK FOR PERMISSION FOR THE WORK AUTHORIZATION

FOR LOW-PRESSURE SYSTEMJA. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SO

MOVED. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: SECOND JUDGE JUDGE WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND FUNDED BY ARPA, RIGHT SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

[7. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving Work Authorization No. 2, in the amount of $69,803.00, for the Parker Pool Project under the Master Service Contract No. 20230259-4/26 with International Consulting Engineers (RFQ 3232-23).]

ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 7, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING APPROVING WORK ORDER NUMBER TWO IN THE AMOUNT OF $69,803 FOR THE PARKER POOL PROJECT.

>> SELL, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS IMPROVEMENT TO OUR EXISTING FACILITY THERE. SO WE ARE GOING INTO THE BATHROOMS. MAKING UPGRADES TO THE SHOWERS OR TRYING TO GET THE SHOWERS UP. AND SOME THINGS NECESSARY IS THE PUMP HOUSE THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED AND DONE.

SO ESSENTIALLY WE THIS WILL BE A GOOD PROJECT.

THOUSANDS. LAST YEAR WE HAD 8,000 KIDS GO

THROUGH THERE -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: YOU HAVE A COMBINATION OF FUNDS FOR THIS ONE AS WELL.

I THINK IT IS FULLY FUNDED AND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY'S ITEM.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: ITEM AND WITH A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

[8. Discuss and consider funding the following additional economic development contracts from Special Revenue, Capital Credits Administration, Department #1379 and related matters. 1. Port Aransas Chamber of Commerce 2. Padre Island Business Association 3. Flour Bluff Business Association 4. Northwest Business Association 5. West Side Business Association 6. United CC Chamber of Commerce (TWIA) 7. United CC Chamber of Commerce (STMTF) 8. Black Chamber of Commerce 9. Corpus Christi Hispanic Chamber of Commerce And all other economic development operations throughout Nueces County to be equitable. ]

MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU.

ITEM NUMBER 8, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER FUNDING THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONTRACTS FROM SPECIAL REVENUE CAPITAL CREDITS ADMINISTRATION. WE HAVE A LIST OF ITEMS. A AND THE AVAILABLE FUNDS FOR THIS TOTAL IS $281,907. DO WE HAVE A TOTAL FOR THESE THAT WE HAVE LISTED OUT? I KNOW IN PORT ARANSAS AND PREVIOUS, I HAVE THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE FUNDED IN THE PAST.

I ASKED THEM TO LOOK UP LAST YEAR'S AMOUNTS FOR US.

WE HAVE -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, THIS WAS A CARRYOVER ITEM FROM THE LAST SESSION.

AND THE AVAILABLE FUNDS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ATTACHED, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN CARRIED FORWARD. THE FUNDING THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS WHAT HAS BEEN GIVEN FROM INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS.

WE HAVE NOT FUNDED COUNTYWIDE -- I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ANY, BUT SOME OF THESE. AND SINCE WE HAVE THOSE ALLOCATED OUR CAPITAL CREDIT ADMINISTRATION.

I PUT THIS ON TO START A DISCUSSION TO SEE WHERE WE COULD GO WITH THIS. SINCE WE WERE HAVING THAT DISCUSSION THE LAST TIME. AND THIS MAY NOT BE -- THIS MAY NOT BE THE ENTIRE LIST, IT WAS JUST TO TRY TO GET SOME EQUITABLE FUNDING TO ORGANIZATIONS TO DO A GREAT DEAL OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN OUR -- IN OUR COUNTY.

AND, AGAIN, THERE MAY BE SOME OTHERS THAT I DON'T HAVE ON HERE TO BE ABLE TO FUND THEM. AS WELL FROM THIS -- ALL INFORM IS ONE TIME -- ALL IS ONE TIME AND WE DO IT AGAIN LIKE WE DID EARLIER WAS ONE TIME. AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR. I DON'T HAVE SPECIFIED AMOUNT.

I WAS GOING TO THROW IT UP FOR DISCUSSION AND LET EVERYBODY WEIGH IN. AND I PUT ALL OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPERATIONS THROUGHOUT NUECES COUNTY TO BE EQUITABLE TO BE KIND OF A CATCH-ALL.

SOME THAT MIGHT HAVE SOME -- EXCUSE ME -- SOME BENEFITS FROM THESE FUNDS. BUT ANY -- ANY OF THE MONEY YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS THROUGH MY PRECINCT.

I BELIEVE -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. I JUST HAD PEYTON LOOK UP THE NUMBERS THAT WERE ALLOCATED TO ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR LAST BUDGET CYCLE. I DIDN'T HAVE HER LOOK UP WHERE THEY CAME FROM. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANTED TO START OFF WITH THOSE NUMBERS SINCE THE FUNDS INTEREST IN THAT SPECIAL REVENUE FUND CAPITAL CREDITS ADMINISTRATION.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THIS WILL BE MORE OF A COUNTYWIDE

ALLOCATION. >>JUDGE SCOTT: ABSOLUTELY CHEST CHEST IF EACH INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER WANTS TO GIVE ADDITIONAL AS COMMISSIONER MAREZ SO GENEROUSLY DO FOR THE ROBSTOWN CORPORATION AN AREA LAST TIME.

THIS IS THE ABILITY TO DO THAT TO GIVE COUNTY ALLOCATION FOR GROUPS WITH LONG, LONG TRACK RECORDS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORKING IN THIS COMMUNITY AND EACH COMMISSIONER CAN SUPPLEMENT IN ADDITION TO THIS IF HE OR -- I CAN'T TALK.

CHOOSES. AND WE ALSO DIDN'T DO OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING THIS YEAR. THIS WILL BE A WAY TO, YOU KNOW,

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HELP SUPPLEMENT SOME OF THESE GROUPS THAT WE ALL WANT TO SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, OR I THINK WE ALL WANT TO SUPPORT.

SO HOWEVER SOMEBODY WANTS TO START WITH.

I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME WHAT THE REMAINING BALANCE IS IN THAT FUND. I APOLOGIZE.

IT WAS IN THE PACKET AND NOW IT IS NOT IN THE PACKET.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS DID NOT GET CARRIED OVER BECAUSE IT WAS

A CARRY OVER ITEM. >>JUDGE SCOTT: THE AVAILABLE FUNDS $281,900 BASICALLY. AND I WOULD FIRST PULL UP THE TWO TO ME ON THERE, THE SOUTH TEXAS MILITARY TASK FORCE.

UNITED CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND THE TWIA.

THOSE TWO. LAST YEAR THEY WERE FUNDED.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS INDIVIDUAL OR COUNTYWIDE BUT $25,000 FOR TWIA AND $40,000 FOR THE SOUTH TEXAS MILITARY TASK

FORCE. >> GENERAL FUND.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: GENERAL FUND FOR ALL OF THESE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MAYBE DALE CAN SHED LIGHT ON THOSE.

I DON'T REMEMBER IF WE CUT IT THEM OUT.

>>DALE ATCHLEY: WE DID CUT THEM OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND FOR BUDGET RESTRAEPTS BECAUSE WE HAD THE FUNDING AVAILABLE IN THIS OTHER FUND AS WE GET THE INITIAL FROM THE STATE FOR UNUSED CAPITAL CREDITS. WE TOOK OUT DALE.

>> YES. >> HOW MUCH FOR TWIA.

>>>JUDGE SCOTT: 25,000. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T

KNOW HOW ANYBODY FEELS OF THIS. >>JUDGE SCOTT: DO WE DO THEM INDIVIDUALLY AND THE BEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD?

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THOSE ARE THE ANOMALIES AND THE REST OF THEM CAN HAVE IS THE SAME AMOUNT.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: SAME AMOUNT FOR THE REST OF THEM.

I AGREE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT IS 65 AND TAKES IT DOWN TO ABOUT 220 IS WHAT IT WOULD BE.

AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND ALL OF IT, BUT WE CAN GIVE, YOU KNOW, $6,000, $7,000, $8,000 TO EACH OF THEM.

I AM LOOKING TO WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO GO WITH IT.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: I THINK THAT WILL BE A GOOD START.

THROW ONE OF THOSE NUMBERS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO FOR THE REST OF THEM. ALTHOUGH, THE NUMBER 9, I THINK WE COULDN'T FIND IT. I THINK THE HISPANIC CHAMBER

JOINED WITH THE UNITED CHAMBER. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THEY MIGHT HAVE, JUDGE -- SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.

I PUT THAT ON THERE AT THE LAST MINUTE BECAUSE I THOUGHT THEY DID AND WE PULLED IT UP AND STILL A WEB SITE.

I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE THEM OFF INADVERTENTLY.

WE CAN PASS IT IN CONTINGENT THAT IT IS STILL IN OPERATION.

WE CAN GIVE THE REMAINING $10,000 EACH AND BE DONE FOR THE DAY. AGAIN, I AM LISTENING WHOEVER

ELSE WANTS TO WEIGH IN -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: I AM GOOD WITH THAT. BUT I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT. TO MAKE IT EASY.

TO FUND THE TWIA, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AT 25.

THE SOUTH TEXAS MILITARY TASK FORCE AT $40,000.

AND REMAINING ONES ON THE LIST AT $10,000 EACH OPIFROM IN SPEC REVENUE CAPITAL CREDITS WHICH WILL LEAVE US SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT

LEFT IN OUR BALANCE THERE FOR -- >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE RIDC. ROBSTOWN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. I DIDN'T KNOW WE WOULD ADD OR I WOULDN'T AGREE TO SCALING BACK THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: I THOUGHT WE ALREADY DID THEM.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: WE ONLY GAVE THEM TEN.

>> THIS WILL BE EQUALIZING FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.

THAT WAS THE MODE. I AM GOING TO SUBSIDIZE SOME OF THESE OTHERS ALSO I DID THIS TO SCALE BACK.

AND I HAVE CONCERN TO GIVE THEM TEN.

TO FOCUS ON AREAS IN OOUR PRECINCT.

BUT IRWOULD RATHER SEE A HIGHER AMOUNT.

THEY COVER A LARGER AREA AND DOING GREAT WORK.

THEY HAVE A BOARD MEETING TOMORROW ON THE PROJECTS GOING ON IN THE WESTERN PART OF NUECES COUNTY.

AND WE CAN ARGUE THAT EVERYONE HAS A WORTH THERE, BUT SOME ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ENGAGED IN THE COMMUNITY WITH THE ROBSTOWN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE $10,000 ADDED OR EVEN MORE. AND I WILL BE HAPPY AND WALK AWAY. I ONLY ADDED THE 20 JUST BECAUSE

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THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS THE 30 PING FOR THE RIDC.

I WILL MAKE THE UP DIFFERENCE WHEN I THOUGHT WE WERE ONLY FUNDING THREE OR FOUR GROUPS. I DON'T MIND FUNDING ALL THESE OTHERS. THEY ARE WELL DESERVED, BUT I ONLY ADD IT BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WEREN'T GOING TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE. AND I WANTED THEM TO CONTINUE TO RELY ON THE REVENUE WE PROVIDED OVER THE YEARS IN THE PAST.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: I HAVE NO PROBLEM ADDING THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: ADD THEM. TO THE LIST FOR ANOTHER 10.

STILL KEEP WHAT I SUPPORTED AND THE COURT SUPPORTED AND A TOTAL OF 40 -- REALLY ONLY 20 ACTUALLY.

20 CAME FROM RDIC. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I

THOUGHT ONLY THOSE FEW AGENCIES. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: THAT IS

WHAT I THOUGHT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT WAY, THE CCDIC.

I THOUGHT WE WERE DONE THOSE AND I WAS DOING THESE AS EXTRAS.

ADD TO THE RIDC. $40,000 FROM THE COUNTY --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: ONLY GIVING $20,000 FROM THE COUNTY FUND.

THAT IS HIS PERSONAL ADDITION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THEY WILL GET $40,000 OVERALL AND I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO SUBSIDIZE THAT MUCH. WE SHOULD GIVE THE CC SHGZIDC BECAUSE THEY DO MORE. ADD AND GIFT REST OF THE 10 AND CALL IT A DAY IF WE ARE GOING TO BE EQUITABLE.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I AM GOOD WITH 10 FOR THE RIDC.

IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: ADD TEN AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS VOTE. 10 TO BOTH AND 25 TO TWIA, 20 FOR THE SOUTH TEXAS MILITARY AND 10 TO THE OTHER AGENCIES AND IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED TO ME THAT THE HISPANIC CHAMBER DID JOIN WITH THE CHAMBER, SO NUMBER 9 WILL COME OFF.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CAN WE ALSO ADD THE 10 TO THE ECONOMIC.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: REGIONAL AND ROBSTOWN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO MOVE THIS GOING FORWARD. COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I AM GOOD WITH THE NORTHWEST BUSINESS ASSOCIATION. BUT I HAVE ANOTHER GROUP THAT I NEED TO TALK TO THEM FIRST AND SEE --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: WE CAN ALWAYS BRING IT BACK.

THERE IS MONEY LEFT IN THE ACCOUNT.

YOU CAN ALWAYS TALK TO THEM AND BRING IT UP LATER.

LOOKING AT THIS LIST. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS THIS WITH -- WITH 25 -- CAN WE LIST IT.

25 GOING TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, TWIA.

40 GOING TO THE UNITED CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR THE SOUTH TEXAS MILITARY TASK FORCE. AND $10,000 TO EACH OF THE PORT ARANSAS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, PADRE ISLAND BUSINESS, FLOUR BLUFF BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, NORTHWEST BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, WEST SIDE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, THE BLACK CHAMPS-ELYSEES, THE ROBSTOWN ECONOMIC AND CORPUS CHRISTI ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

EACH GETTING $10,000 EACH. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SECOND.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: A MOTION AND A SECOND.

TERESA -- >> I WANTED TO STATE THE TOTAL FOR CCRDIC WILL BE $60,000 FOR THIS YEAR AND RDIC, IT WILL BE

THE 40,000. >>JUDGE SCOTT: $20,000 FOR US AND $20,000 FROM COMMISSIONER MAREZ'S PERSONAL.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I THOUGHT IT WAS ALREADY 20.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: HE HAD HIS OWN. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I HAD PUT -- Y'ALL SUPPORTED THE $20,000 OUT OF PRECINCT 3 FUNDS AND $10,000 ADDITIONAL. $30,000.

I MADE THE DIFFERENCE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: $10,000

MORE. >>JUDGE SCOTT: TOTAL OF $135,000 IF MY QUICK MATH IS ADDING UP. IS SOMEBODY CORRECTLY.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO FUND THESE VARIOUS LISTED ORGANIZATIONS OF THOSE AMOUNTS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL NOSE THIS FAVOR, SAY AYE. THE MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU. THAT IS FROM THE SPECIAL REVENUE CAPITAL CREDITS USING $135,000 OF THE $281,000, AND STILL HAVE

A BALANCE IN THERE. >> YOUR HONOR, IF I MAY ADD, CONTRACTS WERE NOT ATTACHED TO THIS ITEM.

WE WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FUNDS THAT WERE JUST MENTIONED SUBJECT AND DRAFTING OF THE REVIEW OF THE CONTRACTS

FROM COUNTY ATTORNEY. >>JUDGE SCOTT: PENDING THE CONTRACTS. IF ANYBODY IS WATCHING, I AM SURE THEY WILL GET THOSE OUT TO US VERY QUICKLY.

THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[9. Discuss and consider approval of license agreements between Nueces County and Mar Insurance related to providing enrollment by Mar Insurance for health services, and related matters.]

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 9, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF

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LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH NUECES COUNTY AND MAR INSURANCE RELATING TO PROVIDING ENROLLMENT FOR MAR INSURANCE FOR HEALTH SERVICES AND RELATED MATTERS. ALEXANDRA AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY EASE OFFICE HAVE CLEARED THIS.

ITEM NUMBER 9 IS YOURS, COMMISSION

COMMISSIONER. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: GONZALEZ ANY QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO ASK THE DOCTOR BACK THERE.

YOU WANT TO COME UP, DOCTOR. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS OR EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT OF THIS TO US, DOCTOR.

>> GOOD MORNING IN, JUDGE. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

BASICALLY WHAT THIS IS, WE ARE -- AT THE CALDERON CLINIC, OPEN SPACE TO UTILIZE AND PART OF THAT UTILIZATION MAKE SURE THERE IS ACCESS TO HEALTH SERVICES INCLUDING SERVICES AND EDUCATION REGARDING INSURANCES. AND SO THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT THIS IS. BECAUSE -- RIGHT NOW, THERE IS -- THERE ARE NEEDS FOR INFORMATION REGARDING CHIP, MEDICARE, MEDICAID AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A LOCAL ORGANIZATION TO BE ABLE TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ON THAT.

THIS IS WHAT THIS ONE IS ABOUT. >>JUDGE SCOTT: COMMISSIONER CHESNEY WANTS TO SPEAK OR HAVE A QUESTION.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THANK YOU.

DOCTOR, I HAVE THAT INFORMATION YOU GOT TO US.

BUT THE QUESTION I HAVE THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE BEING REAL CAREFUL ON ON THIS STUFF IS -- I GET THESE ARE FREE SERVICES, BUT I DON'T -- I DON'T -- I AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE DOING THIS ON PURPOSE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE GOING TO DEVELOP A BASE, A BASE FOR THEM TO GROW THEIR BUSINESS. I WANT TO BE CAUTIOUS.

IF WE ARE GOING TO DO MORE OF THESE, IF WE CAN HAVE KIND OF A GENERAL PLAN BECAUSE A COUNTYWIDE TECH THING.

IN COMMISSIONER MAREZ PRECINCT AND A COUNTYWIDE TYPE THING AND I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS GOING FORWARD INSTEAD OF DOING THIS ONE AT A TIME. A GREAT PROGRAM AND I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT AND I HAVE CONCERN WHEN SOMEONE SAYS IT IS FOR FREE, THEY ARE GETTING SOMETHING OUT OF THIS.

AND NOT A BAD THING, BUT WE ARE. IF WE ARE GIVING THEM A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE TO SELL THEIR SERVICES AND CREATE A DATABASE BY BRINGING ALL THESE PEOPLE IN, MIGHT BE OTHER PEOPLE THAT MIGHT WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THINGS LIKE THIS.

IF THAT IS WHERE YOU ARE GOING WITH THIS.

BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I GOT BACK FROM EMILY WAS THAT YOU PLAN TO KEEN THIS GOING. AND FILL UP -- FILL UP THE PLACE. AND THAT IS GREAT.

BUT I WANT TO BE REAL CAREFUL THAT WE ARE NOT HELPING ONE BUSINESS HELP THEMSELVES OVER OTHER BUSINESSES WHO MAY WANT TO DO THE SAME THING. MAY NOT BE ANYBODY, BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS AND YOU HAVE MORE OF THESE COMING AND IF YOU CAN BRING THEM TO THE COURT BEFORE THEY GET APPROVED SO WE DON'T HAVE TO TABLE IT AND HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AND DO ALL OF THAT. WE DON'T WANT TO MANGE YOU UP BECAUSE YOU ARE BLOWING AND GOING OUT THERE AND I APPRECIATE IT. IF YOU HAVE OTHERS THAT YOU THINK WILL BE COMING. AND TO GIVE US YOUR OVERALL PLAN OF ATTACK OUT THERE BECAUSE I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLAN OF ATTACK FOR THAT IS. AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE SOME STUFF THAT YOU MIGHT HELP MY PRECINCT TOO.

I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE NOT.

SO -- I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT TREADING ON PROMOTING SOMEBODY'S BUSINESS AND NOT -- OVER SOMEBODY'S.

IF THAT MAKES SENSE. >>JUDGE SCOTT: THIS DIDN'T HAVE TO GO OUT FOR BIDS BECAUSE FREE SERVICES.

MICHAEL? YOU ARE SHAKING YOUR HEAD.

THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONERS, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WILL ASK THAT WE BRING THIS ITEM INTO

EXECUTIVE. >>JUDGE SCOTT: I HAVE NUMBER 10

ON EXECUTIVE. >> BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER.

I THINK WE CAN DISCUSS BOTH OF T

THEM. >>JUDGE SCOTT: THEN WE WILL

BRING THIS UP IN A MINUTE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SORRY

BEFORE GOING TO EXECUTIVE. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: 9 AND 10 TO

EXECUTIVE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHAT IS

THE LEGAL ON THIS ONE. >> 550.71, CONSULTATION WITH THE

ATTORNEY -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: SO GOOD.

I REMEMBERED THAT NUMBER. >> SEEKING THE LEGAL ADVICE OF COUN COUNSEL.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: DIDN'T WE DO THAT ALREADY THOUGH?

>>JUDGE SCOTT: THEY ARE SAYING THEY WANT TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS.

WE WILL BRING IT BACK AFTER -- AFTER EXECUTIVE.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE NINE YARDS APPROVED AND SENT BACK.

SO, I WISH THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED EARLIER WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH ALL THIS. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE DOCTOR WAS WORKING WITH YOU GUYS FOR ABOUT A MONTH.

AND -- AND GOT BACK -- OKAY, IT IS OKAY.

IT IS A GOOD THING AND NOW WE COME BACK AND SOMETHING ELSE COMES UP. AND I THINK BEFORE WE RELEASE ANYTHING, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW ALL THE TS AND IS CROSSED. PROBABLY SHOULD TALK BEFORE IN

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THE MEETING. THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING.

BECAUSE I -- >> I BELIEVE NEW QUESTIONS WERE RAISED THAT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL CONSULTATION WITH THE ATTORNEY.

>>>JUDGE SCOTT: THEY HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

I HAD IT ON NUMBER 10, BUT NUMBER 9 -- NOT 234789, WE WILL

[11. Discuss and consider amending the Nueces County Animal Services Advisory Board Bylaws and related matters.]

BRING THEM BACK AFTER EXECUTIVE AND MAKE IT QUICK.

ITEM NUMBER 11. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AMENDING THE NUECES ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD BYLAWS AND RELATED MATTERS. I BELIEVE THEY SENT THEIR BYLAWS FOR US. IF YOU LOOK IN YOUR PACKETS, WE HAVE SOME RED LINES THAT WE CHANGED IN THEIR BYLAWS YOU WERE ALL SENT THOSE. PEYTON SENT THEM AROUND AS WELL.

SINCE WE CHANGED THE NUMBER OF THE MEMBERS AND WE CHANGED THE CHAIR TO A NONVOTING MEMBER OF THAT COURT, THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE AFTERWARDS.

AFTER THEIR MEETING. HAS ANYONE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THOSE? DO YOU HAVE THOSE, CONNIE?

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, I HAD -- I HAD READ THEM AND SENT BACK SOME SUGGESTIONS. I AM TRYING TO FINDS IF -- IF THOSE GOT ENTERED. I NEED TO GO BACK AND FIND MINE.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: IS PEYTON ON. CAN SHE TELL US WHO HAS THE LATEST VERSION. I HAVE THE ONE THAT WE WENT

THROUGH THERE, I THINK. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T HAVE. I APOLOGIZE.

IT IS AT OFFICE. I DON'T HAVE THE ONES I HAD MARKED UP AND SENT BACK IN. HERE IS PEYTON.

>> WE DIDN'T INCLUDE CHESNEY'S. YOU AND ME CHATTED A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT WAS STATED IN THE BYLAWS.

I TOLD EMILY THAT HE COULD BRICK IT BACK OVER COURT AND COPIES OF

CHANGES -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: MINIMAL CHANGES

OR FEW CHANGES. >> JUST WORDING.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: JUST WORDING IN THERE.

>> YES, MA'AM -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: ANYBODY HAVE A

KEEP OF BRENT'S CHANGES. >> I DIDN'T CIRCULATE BRENT'S

CHASES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I HAVE

GONE GIVING IT BACK TO YOU. >> OH, SORRY.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THOUGHT YOU WANTED TO SUGGEST CHANGES. IS THIS URGENT?

CAN WE TABLE THIS ONE? >>JUDGE SCOTT: WE TABLED IT A COUPLE OF TIMES AND WE WILL BRING IT BACK NEXT MEETING SO WE ALL HAVE A CHANCE. CIRCULATE COMMISSIONER CHESNEY'S CHANGES AND WE WILL PUT IT ON FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I JUST SCRATCHED ON IT AND TYPE IT UP.

>>>JUDGE SCOTT: MAYBE THAT IS -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I GOT IT FROM YOU ALL AND I THOUGHT YOU WANT IT BACK.

THAT IS MY BAD. >>JUDGE SCOTT: I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS TO THE NEXT NOVEMBER 8 MEETING.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: SECOND.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

[12. Discuss and consider amending the Commissioners Court Policies and related matters.]

THE MOTION PASSES ITEM NUMBER 12 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AMENDING THE COMMISSIONERS COURT POLICIES AND RELATED MATTERS.

WE HAVE. THOSE HAVE BEEN THROUGHOUT COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS WELL AND THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONS.

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ HAD AN ADDITION.

AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAD -- TO ADD THE PROPOSED ADDITIONS TO THE POLICY, I BELIEVE.

WHAT WE HAD ASKED ON THE COMMISSIONERS BRINGING UP ITEMS. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S WORDING BEFORE COMMISSIONERS SUBMIT AGENDA ITEMS OF COUNTY SERVICES LOCATED WHOLLY WITHIN THE PRECINCT YOU THAT ANOTHER ELECTED OR OTHER COMMISSIONER, THE SUBMITTING COMMISSIONER SHOULD NOTIFY THE COMMISSIONER REPRESENTING THE EFFECTED BY E-MAIL, PHONE CALL PRIOR TO THE ADMISSION TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT.

THEN COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ HAD LITTLE MORE DETAIL TO IT ABOUT ASSIGNING WHETHER IT IS A COUNTYWIDE PROJECT OR A COMMISSIONERS'S PROJECT -- PRECINCT PROJECT, SORRY.

IF THE PROJECT IS A PRECINCT PROJECT AND OVERSEEN BY A PRECINCT COMMISSIONER THE FUNDING SOURCE SHOULD COME FROM THE COMMISSIONER OF THAT PRECINCT'S BUDGET.

IF THE PROJECT IS A COUNTYWIDE PROJECT, THE ASSIGNED COMMISSIONER WILL KEEP THE JUDGE AND OTHER COMMISSIONERS UPDATE ON THE PROJECT AND OPEN TO RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE PROJECT.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: FUNDING COMES FROM THE COUNTY.

COUNTY GENERAL FUND OR OTHER RESOURCES.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: FUND ALSO COME FROM -- MULTIPLE FUNDS OR

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WHEREVER IS NECESSARY. AND ALL OF IT COMES FROM MULTIPLE FUNDS, EVEN ON PRIVATE PROJECTS, WE SOMETIMES USE --

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: BUT IT IS IN WRITING.

>> YEAH. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I THINK IT GIVES YOU MORE OF A BROAD -- BECAUSE WE EVEN TALKED ABOUT IT TODAY COUNTYWIDE, COUNTYWIDE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SO -- BUT IF SOMEBODY HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COUNTYWIDE, THEN THAT PERSON,

YOU KNOW -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT IT IF IT IS A PRECINCT PROJECT AND OVERSEEN BY A PRECINCT COMMISSIONER. THE FUNDING SOURCE SHOULD COME HAVE THE PRECINCT COMMISSIONER'S BUDGET IF AVAILABLE OR APPROVED COUNTYWIDE. MAYBE ADD SOMETHING IN THERE.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: OR SUPPLEMENTED BY THE COUNTY.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: FOR APPROVAL OF THE COURT.

BECAUSE WE DO THAT ALL THE TIME ON PROJECTS.

>> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: BECAUSE IF WE --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT US WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS FOR YOUR PROJECT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD

ON THAT. >>JUDGE SCOTT: COMMISSIONER

CHESNEY HAS HIS HAND UP TOO. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: GO AHEAD

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NORMALLY WHAT WE DO WHEN WE DO A PROJECT, IT USUALLY COMES FROM OUR BUDGET. OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD KNOW AHEAD OF TIME IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS AND REQUEST FOR OTHER FUNDS, YOU KNOW, SO -- FROM THE COUNTY OR FROM OTHER SOURCES, RESOURCES. SO -- BUT ANYWAY, WE KNOW THAT MOST OF THE FUNDING COMES FROM THE PRECINCT COMMISSIONER

BECAUSE THAT IS HIS PROJECT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YEAH,

BUT -- CAN I JUMP IN NOW. >>JUDGE SCOTT: YES, SORRY.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO TWO DIFFERENT ONES.

NUMBER ONE IS, I THINK -- I THINK IT IS FINE.

I AM UNCLEAR ON THE ONE THAT COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ OUT IN.

PROJECT IS A PRECINCT PROJECT AND OVERSEEN BY THE PRECINCT COMMISSIONER. THE FUNDING SOURCE SHOULD BE FROM THE COMMISSIONER'S BUDGET. IT ISN'T ALWAYS LIKE THAT.

BOB HALL PIER WHICH IS AN EXAMPLE.

I CAN'T FIND BOB HALL PIER, A PROJECT I HAVE BEEN WATCHING OVER. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WILL WORK. NOBODY -- WE DON'T USUALLY ASSIGN COMMISSIONERS TO LOOK OVER STUFF.

IT KIND OF HAPPENS IF IT IS IN THE PRECINCT THIS THEY LOOK OVER IT. TO ME THIS IS GETTING A LITTLE -- I DON'T KNOW HOW -- I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WILL WORK.

AND I JUST GOT THIS ONE. SO I AM TRYING TO LOOK AT IT QUI QUICK.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE CAN TABLE IT.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN DO THAT.

BECAUSE YOU HAVE PROJECTS IN YOUR PRECINCT ALL THE TIME AND SOME OF THEM ARE FUNDED BY YOUR BUDGET.

SOME ARE FUNDED BY THE COUNTY BUDGETS.

AND YOU ARE GOING TO OVERLOOK THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE IN YOUR PRECINCT. YOU MAY NOT, QUOTE "BE ASSIGNED" BUT I DON'T KNOW THE FUNDING SOURCE WILL BE THE COMMISSIONER PRECINCT BUDGET. DEPENDING ON THE YEAR YOU MAY NOT HAVE A PRECINCT BUDGET AND ALL MAY BE COUNTYWIDE FUNDS.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ARE YOU FINISHED, COMMISSIONER?

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YES, SIR.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

FUNNY THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT, BECAUSE WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS PROJECT, YOU WERE -- YOU WERE THE ONE THAT SAID THAT COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ CAN GO AHEAD AND WORK ON IT.

HE IS ALREADY WORKING IN THE CALDERON BUILDING AND THE CLINIC WHEN WE SEPARATED FROM THE CITY. YOU ARE THE ONE THAT I SUGGESTED WORKING WITH THE CALCALENDAR CLC PAUSE I WAS ALREADY ASSIGNS.

AND YOU MADE A SUGGESTION WHEN WE SPLIT IT UP USE THE CALDERON CLINIC, BUT IT BENEFITED US AT THE TIME WHEN YOU SAID THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING

ABOUT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I FORGET A LOT OF THINGS TOO. BUT WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY HERE, LIKE THIS MORNING, WE MENTIONED A COUPLE OF PROJECTS ARE COUNTYWIDE PROJECTS. WELL, COUNTYWIDE PROJECTS, WE ARE ALL HELPING, RIGHT. WE HELP WITH THE PIER.

WE GIVE MONEY TO THE PIER. NOT THAT I AM GOING TO RUN THE PIER. THAT IS YOUR PROJECT BUT WE HELP YOU. I THINK IF THERE IS A PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO -- MAYBE NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO DO THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING STARTED FROM THE ABOUT HE BEGINNING.

AND IT IS NOT WHERE WE ARE AT, BECAUSE, I MEAN, NOBODY WAS INVOLVED IN WHAT -- EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING AT THE CALDERON BUILDING. NOBODY RECOMMENDED OR ASKED TO BE INVOLVED. AND SO -- I AM JUST SAYING, THERE HAS GOT TO BE A PROJECT WITH THE COMMISSIONERS COURT APPROVAL, THE COMMISSIONER WILL WORK ON IT WHETHER A COUNTYWIDE PROJECT. THE ONLY THING I AM SAYING.

STILL APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, RIGHT.

I AM NOT SAYING THIS BECAUSE -- BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY THIS STARTED WAY BACK THERE WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO -- TRYING TO SPLIT WITH THE CITY. AND IT WAS OKAY THEN FOR TO YOU MENTION THE CALDERON BUILDING AND GET IT TOGETHER.

COMMISSIONER IS WORKING ON IT. >>JUDGE SCOTT: CAN I ADD TO THIS

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REAL QUICK. I THINK THIS IS EXCELLENT IF WE JUST LEAVE OUT THE FUNDING SOURCE.

BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO USE WHATEVER FUNDS WE VOTE ON.

IF WE LEAVE THAT SENTENCE OUT THAT YOU HAVE TO USE THE FUNDS AND PRECINCT OR COUNTY, BECAUSE -- WE CHANGED THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: JUST MY RECOMMENDATION TO PUT SOMETHING.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: IF WE LEAVE THAT OUT, JUST BASICALLY THE COMMUNICATION AND YOUR COMMENTS THE NEXT LINE IS PERFECT AND I THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH ADDING THAT WITH JUST THE -- WITH THE ASSIGNED COMMISSIONER OR COMMISSIONER WHO HAS CONTROL OF THE PROJECT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT AS LONG AS THEY KEEP US ALL APPRISED AND IN THE LOOP ABOUT IT.

A GOOD ADDITION. CISCO, DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT?

>> YES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: ANY SUGGESTION OF THE SECOND SENTENCE.

I AM OKAY WITH IT THE. THE REST OF IT SEEMS FINE.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: I AM AFRAID IT LIMITS US SO I WANT IT TAKEN OUTS BECAUSE WE USE WHATEVER FUNDING WE CAN USE ON A PROJECT.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: GIVE ME SOME MONEY.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: YES, EXACTLY. SECOND SENTENCE, IF THE PROJECT IS A PRECINCT PROJECT AND OVERSEEN BY PRECINCT

COMMISSIONER. >>JUDGE SCOTT: TAKE THAT OUT.

>> REMOVE THE WHOLE SENTENCE. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: WILL

THAT INCLUDE THE M.E. OFFICE. >>JUDGE SCOTT: ANY PROJECT.

GONZALEZ GNZ WHAT IS ON THERE OR OUT THERE.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: THE ADDITIONS ARE FINE.

OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE POLICY, I DON'T SEE WHAT WE VOTED ON LAST WEEK ON THE BOARD APPOINTMENT.

AM I MISSING IT? LOOK AT THE WRONG PLACE WE

APPROVED THAT ALREADY. >> THE RED LINE ON THE AGENDA WAS NOT ON THERE, AND WE E-MAILED IT TO THE COMMISSIONERS YESTERDAY EVENING AND ABLE I E-MAIL IT TO YOU, JUDGE SCOTT.

AND IT HAS THE SECTION ON THE BOARD APPOINTMENTS.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: IT HAS THE SECTION.

ONLY THING MISSING AND THE PREVIOUS MEETING WE WENT THROUGH THE RED LINE ITEMS BEFORE THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAD ADDED OR CHANGED WORD CAN UP A LITTLE BITS.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: ALL WE ARE DOING TODAY IS ADD THESE TWO

THINGS IN. >> THE ONES ALREADY HAVE BEEN ADDED AND WE NEED TO VOTE ON WHAT WE TALKED THE LAST MEETING BECAUSE WE TABLED IT WHEN JENNY WENT THROUGH WITH HER HIGHLIGHTED. TOOK OUT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MANAGER BECAUSE WE NO LONGER HAVE THAT APARTMENT.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHAT ARE WE --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: WE VOTED ON YOUR POLICY OF THE BOARD APPOINTMENTS BUT UPDATE THE COUNTY POLICY TO ADD THOSE INTO HERE.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD?

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IN OTHER WORDS -- BUT TODAY TWO PROPOSALS TO ADD AGAIN. WE NEED TO VOTE ON THOSE TWO PROPOSALS, AND THEN THE OTHER ONES HAVE BEEN VOTED ON, THE ONE YOU ARE REFERENCING ON THE APPOIN APPOI APPOINTMENTS.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: THE LAST COURT WE VOTED ON THAT.

WE ONLY VOTED ON THE BOARD APPOINTMENTS.

DIDN'T VOTE ON THE RED LINE BECAUSE WE GOT TO THIS POINT.

>> THE RED LINE THAT Y'ALL GOT IN YOUR E-MAILS I PRINTED OUT AND CIRCULATED, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY.

EMILY WAS GOING TO E-MAIL IT TO YOU.

I PUT IT ON YOUR DESK AND WE DIDN'T VOTE ON THAT BECAUSE WE

GOT IT YESTERDAY. >>JUDGE SCOTT: WE VOTED ON THAT ONE THE PREVIOUS COURT I HAVE THOUGHT THAT WAS THE BOARD

APPOINTMENTS. >> YES, WE VOTED ON THE BOARD APPOINTMENTS AND INCLUDED IT IN THE DOCUMENT.

>> THE ONE TODAY IS REFLECTION OF THE LAST ONE.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: WE NEED TO VOTE ON THOSE TWO ITEMS FOR THE POL POLICY.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YOU WANT TO VOTE ON THESE TWO NEW ONES FIRST. TO APPROVE THOSE.

AND I CAN LOOK. EMILY SENT THEM TO ME AND YOU

ARE SAYING. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO INCLUDE THE TWO WITH COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ'S ADDITIONS TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S LANGUAGE ON THE AGENDA ITEM THAT EFFECT OTHER COUNTY SERVICES LOCATED ANOTHER COMMISSIONER'S PRECINCT, THIS POLICY.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, ALLELUIA AMENDED.

CAN WE DO ONE AT A TIME BECAUSE HE HAS TO AMEND ONE OF THEM --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: AS AMENDED. Y

YES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: VOTE ONE ONE AT A TIME WITH NO AMENDMENT. AND IT IS HIS PROPOSAL.

SO HE WILL NEED TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: WE WILL VOTE ON THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S LANGUAGE TO ADD TO OUR NUECES COUNTY POLICY ON SUBMITTING ITEMS

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WITHIN ANOTHER COMMISSIONER'S PRECINCT.

I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

NOW COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, DO YOU WANT TO AMEND YOURS OMITTING THE SECOND SENTENCE BOB HALL PIER BOB HALL PIER SO MOVED AS

AMENDED. >>JUDGE SCOTT: I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADD COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ'S PROPOSED ADDITIONS OMITTING LINE TWO OF THE FUNDING SOURCE. AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES.

AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM THAT WAS CIRCULATED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON THE BOARD APPOINTMENTS THAT WE VOTED TO APPROVE. I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AGAIN. AND ADD THOSE TO OUR COUNTY

POLICY, I ASSUME. >> NO, YOU ALREADY DONE THAT.

ACCEPT THE RED LINE. >>JUDGE SCOTT: ACCEPT THE RED LINE VERSION OF OUR NUECES COUNTY POLICY.

INCLUDING -- IS YOURS NOT IN COLOR, COMMISSION HER IN IT WAS -- YES, UNDER 3-A-12. THE LAST COMMISSIONERS COURT WITH OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY HERE. WE TALKED THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE. 3-A-12.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I DON'T HAVE ONE.

>>THE ONE IN THE PACKET IS NOT THE CORRECT VERSION.

I PUT IT ON YOUR DESK. EVERYONE'S DESK THIS MORNING BECAUSE WE GOT IT LAST NIGHT. I CAN PRINT ANOTHER COPY FOR

YOU. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: WAIT, IT SHOULD

BE RIGHT HERE. >> PAPER CLIPPED.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: THIS ONE IS IT AND NOT IN COLOR EITHER.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU ARE TALKING OF THE BOARDS.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: THE BOARDS ARE ADDED TO THAT IS WHY.

SORRY I AM NOT SPEAKING IN THE MICROPHONE.

WE VOTED LAST MEETING TO APPROVE THE BOARD APPOINTMENT PROCESS.

THE COUNTY ATTORNEY DID THE WORDING AND ADD IT WITH A RED LINE VERSION IN YOUR PACKET TO MOVE FORWARD TO ADOPT THE NUECES COUNTY POLICIES AND INCLUDING THE RED LINE VERSION, INCLUDING THESE TWO ITEMS MOVING FORWARD. ANY OTHER CLARIFICATION?

I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SECOND.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO PASS.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CAN YOU TELL US WHAT PAGE THAT IS ON REAL QUICK ON THE BOARD. IS IT ON 10?

>> IT IS ON PAGE 11, SECTION 4. IT IS SUBSECTIONS 4 B C.

YOUB AND C AND HAS A 1-6. TWO-STEP APPLICATION AND SUBMITTED AND TO SEE. AND NOMINATED ONE DIFFERENT CANDIDATE AND EACH COMMISSIONER, COUNTY JUDGE HAS TWO VOTES.

HAVING TO VOTE ON THIS AGAIN. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE ALREADY VOTED ON ALL THIS. WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON WHAT WE ALREADY VOTED ON AGAIN. PUTTING THE LANGUAGE IN THE

POLICIES AND HAVE BEEN ADOPTED. >>JUDGE SCOTT: THAT'S WHY I WAS CONFUSED AS WELL. IF WE ARE CONFUSED IN THE RED LINE IF THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ADDED.

I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO CLARIFY AND MAKE SURE THIS IS THE NUECES COUNTY POLICY MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE TWO ITEMS IN ADDITION

TO. >> I SECOND THAT CLARIFY JUDGE.

>> SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

>> AYE. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

THE MOTION -- SORRY. IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE.

ALREADY PASSED. IT IS REALLY REDUNDANT, BUT THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

THE MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON TO ITEM 13, DISCUSS

[13. Discuss and consider application procedure and timeline for each of the following Boards: 1. Port of Corpus Christi Authority 2. Christus Spohn Board of Trustees 3. Nueces County Tax Appraisal District Board of Directors 4. Nueces County Beach Management Advisory Committee 5. Nueces County Civil Service Commission 6. Nueces County Emergency Service District #1 7. Nueces County Emergency Service District #2 8. Nueces County Emergency Service District #3 9. Nueces County Emergency Service District #4 10. Nueces County Emergency Service District #6]

AND CONSIDER THE APPLICATION PROCEDURE AND TIMELINE FOR EACH OF THE FOLLOWING BOARDS. WE HAVE SEVERAL BOARDS COMING UP IN YOUR PACKET. IF YOU WILL LOOK AT ITEM 13.

WE NEED TO, I GUESS, MAKE THE MOTION FOR -- FOR TARA TO GO OUT

TO PUT THESE OUT. >> SO MOVED.

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>>JUDGE SCOTT: I HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND FOR TARA TO POST ALL OF THESE BOARDS COMING UP.

>> ESPECIALLY FOR THE SPOHN BOARD.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: EXCEPT FOR THE SPOHN BOARD.

PULL THAT ONE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WANT MORE DISCUSSION ON THE SPOHN BOARD.

I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT ON THERE FOR NOW UNTIL SOMEBODY COMES AND EXPLAINS HOW IT HAPPENS UNILATERALLY AND THEY MAKE A DECISION WITHOUT US SO I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT ON THERE.

JUDGE JUDGE DONNIE HIP IS HERE. DO YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WOULD LIKE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO TALK

MORE. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS AGAIN. UNDER OUR AGREEMENT WITH SPOHN.

LET ME BACK UP A SECOND. THE AGREEMENTS WITH SPOHN IS BETWEEN THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND SPOHN.

>>>JUDGE SCOTT: HOW DID WE START DOING THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS? WAS THAT GIVEN TO YOU WHEN WE CREATED THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT?

WHEN DID THAT COME ABOUT. >> WHEN WE CHANGED OUR AGREEMENT WITH SPOHN AND MOVED TO THE NEXT GENERATION OF WHERE WE ARE.

THIS IS PROBABLY BACK IN JUDGE IN BORCHARD'S ERA.

WHEN WE REDID THE AGREEMENT WE LAID OUT AND EX-POLICELY THAT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND SPOHN.

AND IT ALSO CREATED THE ABILITY FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO APPOINT THREE MEMBERS OF THE SPOHN BOARD.

AND BECAUSE THE CONTRACT IS BETWEEN THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND SPOHN AND THESE APPOINTMENTS RELATE TO THEIR APPOINTMENTS TO THE BOARD, THE DISTRICT IN THE END, IS THE ONE WHO MAKES THOSE APPOINTMENT. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, JUDGE, BACK IN JUDGE BORCHARD'S ERA, AND THE COURT IN PLACE AT THAT TIME. THEY ASKED THAT THEY HAVE A PART OF THE PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING OR APPOINTING BOARD MEMBERS SO SINCE THE CONTRACTS BETWEEN SPOHN AND THE HOSPITAL DISTRICTS, THE DISTRICT MAKES THE APPOINTMENT AND WORKS OUT THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WOULD MAKE NOMINATIONS TO IT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD FOR CONSIDERING OF APPOINTMENT FOR THE SPOHN BOARD. WITH ONE EXCEPTION, ALL OF THE NOMINATIONS PRESENTED BY THE COURT HAVE BEEN THE ONES THAT THE DISTRICT APPOINTED TO THE SPOHN BOARD.

THE ONE EXCEPTION WAS MANY, MANY YEARS AGO BECAUSE THE BOARD HAD INFORMATION THAT THE NOMINATION MADE THAT THAT BOARD MEMBER.

HE WAS ACTUALLY A REAPPOINTMENT AND THAT BOARD MEMBER WAS NOT ATTENDING SPOHN BOARD MEETINGS ON A REGULAR BASIS.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR HOW LONG? I DON'T KNOW BORC TARD, 20 SOME YEARS? I DON'T HAVE THE CALENDAR BUT IT IS THAT FAR BACK.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T SUPPORT THIS.

NOBODY HAS COME TO TALK TO US ABOUT IT.

A UNILATERAL DECISION. WE HAD THIS IN PLACE FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG AGO THAT JU JUDGE BORCHARD WAS THERE.

AND HAS DONE IT FOR 20, 25 YEARS HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND A UNILATERAL DECISION.

AND NOT A PARTNERSHIP. I OPPOSE THIS.

IF THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE OUR SUGGESTIONS, SO BE IT.

THE AGREEMENT MADE WAY BACK WHEN AND ADHERED TOO AND HOW TO UNADHERE TO IT. IF THE COURT WANTED.

AND I DON'T SUPPORT IT, BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE TO BE INVOLVED IN THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND THE CONTRACT IS BETWEEN THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND SPOHN. WE CAN HIDE BEHIND THAT ALL YOU WANT. BUT WE APPOINT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD MEMBERS. NOT AS THIS COURT BUT A COURT SET THIS UP SO THERE WAS A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND SPOHN AND SUPER INVOLVED WITH THIS.

AND TO SAY THAT IT IS NOT FOR US TO BE INVOLVED WITH, IN MY OPINION, THAT IS NOT RIGHT. AND IT HAS ON IF FINE FOR ALL THESE YEARS. ANY RECOMMENDATION HAS BEEN TAKEN EXCEPT FOR THE ONE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WHICH IS WELL BEFORE ANY OF OUR TIME. AND I JUST -- I JUST -- I AM OFFENDED THEY CAN'T COME TO US AND TALK TO US ABOUT IT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THEY ARE TALKING TO US ABOUT.

AND THAT WOULD BE A COMMON COURTESY THAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. IF THIS COURT DOESN'T FEEL THAT WAY, THAT IS OKAY. I WILL LIVE WITH IT AND MOVE ON.

I THINK WE OUGHT TO KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS AND KEEP APPOINTING -- MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

>> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, LET ME ADD THAT THIS MORNING THAT I GOT AUTHORITY TO TELL YOU THAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD WILL

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DEFER TO YOUR PREFERENCES WITH REGARD TO THE SPOHN BOARD APPOINTMENTS CONSIDERING THE ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW AND THE ISSUES THAT ARE BEFORE ALL OF US THAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT WILL BE LOOKING INTO THAT THE BOARD IS WILLING TO -- OF THE COURT'S

REF PRESENCE. >> ARE THEY GOING TO COME BACK AND REVOTE ON THE ISSUE THEY VOTED ON LAST MEETING.

>> THEY WILL. I WILL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: WE WILL LEAVE IT ON AND MOVE FORWARD WITH OURS

AND THANK YOU FORKING HERE. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: EXCUSE ME, JUDGE, I HAVE A QUESTION. I WANT TO CLARIFY AND MAKE SURE.

I DON'T REMEMBER. DID WE VOTE ON THE PROCEDURES? ON THOSE PROCEDURES FOR THE BO

BOARD? >>JUDGE SCOTT: YES, WE DID.

THE COUNTY ATTORNEY PUT THEM IN WORDING AND REVOTING ON SOMETHING WE HAD ALREADY DONE. THEY WANTED US TO MAKE SURE AND LOOK AT THE ITEM LIST BY LIST, BUT THOSE PROCEDURES HAD BEEN VOTED ON IN THE COURT BEFORE THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: HAVE WE GOTTEN THE WORDING FROM THE

COUNTY ATTORNEY? >>JUDGE SCOTT: YES, IT WAS ON

YOUR THING AND IN YOUR E-MAIL. >> GOT IT.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GOT IT.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

WE APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING IT ON THERE.

>> THANK YOU ALL -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: WE HAVE A MOTION.

DID WE GET A SECOND ON THIS FOR TARA TO PROCEED WITH THE

APPOINTMENTS. >> YES, EXCEPT FOR SPOHN BOARD.

>> WE WILL RESCIND THAT. >> ADD ALL OF THOSE.

>> WELL, THEY JUST SAID THEY WILL PULL IT BACK BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION AS WELL. THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT IS GOING

TO DO THAT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THEY WILL PULL IT BACK BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PULL IT BACK.

>> YES, THEY WANT TO PULL IT BACK.

JOHNNY GOT A MESSAGE. >>THE MOTION TO INCLUDE SPOHN BOARD. APPOINTMENT.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: I WILL SECOND THAT IF SOMEBODY HAVEN'T ALREADY

SECONDED IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I

COULDN'T HEAR THE MOTION, JUDGE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I WILL RESCIND MY MOTION TO INCLUDE SPOHN BOARD APPOINTMENT.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: HE IS AMENDING HIS MOTION AND EXCLUDED SPOHN BECAUSE OF THE VOTE. BUT SINCE SPOHN IS PUTTING IT BACK, GO TO THE AGENDA NEXT MEETING.

AND BASED ON JOHNNY HIP'S CONVERSATION.

SO WE ARE. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO GO OUT FOR EACH OF THESE BOARDS THAT ARE OPEN POSITIONS AND DO THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR TARA TO PRESENT AND PUNT IT OUT FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO APPLY. WE APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO APPLY TO SERVE ON OURS AND WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO TO THE NUECES COUNTY WEB SITE AND DO SO.

A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

THE MOTION PASSES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: YES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I NEED TO PULL IT BACK UP. WHAT I DIDN'T SEE.

HOLD ON ONE SECOND. WHAT I DIDN'T SEE -- ON THE RED LINE VERSION WAS IT WAS ONLY -- THAT WAS ONLY FOR FOUR BOARDS SUPPORT SPOHN, RTA AND THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

THEY WERE THE ONLY FOUR A PARTICULAR SLATED BOARDS.

WE WEREN'T DOING THE BOARD PROCESS FOR EVERY SINGLE BOARD.

JUST THOSE FOUR. NEEDED THAT TO BE --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: GOOD CATCH. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CLARIFIED OR ELSE WE WOULD BE DOING INTERVIEWS FOR THE REST OF

[14. Discuss and consider upcoming Commissioners Court meeting date(s), workshop date(s), and related matters.]

OUR LIVES. >>JUDGE SCOTT: OKAY, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 14 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETINGS DATES, WORKSHOPS. OUR NEXT MEETING IS NOVEMBER 8.

THEN 29TH AND DECEMBER 13. I DO NEED TO ASK THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE. I KNOW THERE WILL BE A SPECIAL MEETING BECAUSE THE CANVASSING OF THE ELECTIONS FALLS BETWEEN THAT 8TH AND 29TH DATE. AND WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THAT. AND I DON'T THINK -- IS THERE A LESSER NUMBER OF COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE TO BE PRESENT FOR TH THAT?

>> YES. THE COUNTY CLERK HAS TO.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: SHE HAVEN'T GIVEN US A GATE YET.

WE NEED TO BE AWARE THAT WE ARE ADDING SOMETHING IN THERE.

SO IF THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THAT, THERE IS NO MOTION OR

[1. Discuss and consider the submission of a grant application to the Tocker Foundation for the Keach Branch Library Digitization project.]

ANYTHING. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW OF WHEN OUR DATES ARE COMING UP. MOVING ON TO ITEM B GRANTS.

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE SUBMISSION OF GRANT APPLICATION TO THE TOCKER FOUNDATION FOR THE KEACH BRANCH LIBRARY DIGITALIZATION PROJECT. EXCUSE ME.

THAT IS A MOUTH 69. >> GOOD MORNING, NUECES COUNTY

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RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF AWARD OPPORTUNITY FROM THE TOCKER FOUNDATION. IT PARTNERS WITH COMMUNITY LIBRARIES TO MEET THE PARTICULAR NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.

THE KEACH LIBRARY HAVE 3R50E7D AN APPLICATION TO SUPPORT THE DIGITALIZATION OF THE ROBS TOWN STAR AND NUECES COUNTY FUNDING $29,500 WITH NO MATCH REQUIRED. WE REQUEST APPROVAL.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: THE MOTION HERNANDEZ SECOND.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM IN

FAVOR OF. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I WANTED TO ADD THAT MR. CAROL KEACH AND HAD IS FAMILY DID DONATE ALL THAT MICRO FITCH WHEN WE REOPENED THE WATER AND MICRO FITCH IS KIND OF EXTINCT. WE HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS TO TRY TO GET IT DIGITALIZED AND ABOUT $60,000 OR $75,000 PROJECT AND HAVE IT ALL UTILIZED AND GET ONLINE AND WE

[1. Discuss and consider allowing county staff to proceed with the process of renaming "Bernice Drive" to "Bernice Lane", including authorizing notice to be posted pursuant to Texas Transportation Code 251.013, and all related matters.]

WILL BE ABLE TO DO IT ONLINE. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: PERFECT.

MOVING ON TO ITEM C-1. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ALLOWING THE COUNTY STAFF TO PROCEED WITH THE PROCESS OF RENAMING BERNICE DRIVE TO BERNICE LANE, INCLUDING AUTHORIZING THE NOTICE TO BE POSTED PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE.

AND THANK YOU MR. PIMENTAL. >> YES, JUDGE, THANK YOU.

WE ARE ASKING -- THE DEPARTMENT IS REQUESTING TO ALLOW STAFF TO CHANGE THE NAME FROM BERNICE DRIVE TO BERNICE LANE.

THIS IS FOR CONFUSION BETWEEN METRO COME, SO THEY KNOW THAT -- THIS EXISTS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS WITHIN THE COUNTY.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO MOVED.

>> TWO VOTES. ONE TO CHANGE THE NAME AND ONE

TO AUTHORIZE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> JUST TO VOTE FOR PUBLIC

HEARING. >>JUDGE SCOTT: JUST THE NAME

CHANGE. >> YES, MA'AM.

>>>JUDGE SCOTT: MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED -- SORRY, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. I SAY IT TOO QUICK AND YOU ARE A LITTLE BIT DELAYS. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN, THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE DON'T NEED A SECOND VOTE ON THAT.

WE WILL JUST PUT THE PUBLIC HEARING UP FOR THE NOVEMBER 8

[2. Discuss and Consider Nueces County collecting plat application fees within the ETJ and County properties, along with related matters.]

MEETING. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S CORRECT, JUDGE. >>JUDGE SCOTT: ITEM NUMBER 2, DISCUSS AND DISCUSS NUECES PLAT APPLICATION FEES AWLETJ AND COUNTY PROPERTIES ALONG WITH RELATED MATTERS.

>> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, I KNOW THIS WAS IN THE PREVIOUS COURT OF ALLOWING AND HAVING PUBLIC WORKS DO THE FEES FOR THE PLANNING AND WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT AND A LIST OF THE FEES THAT WERE SIX SUBMITTED, I GUESS WE ARE

REQUESTING FOR APPROVAL. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: JUAN, WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO KNOW SINCE IT IS IN MY PRECINCT.

AND I HAVE BEEN REQUESTING IT. FRANCISCO, WHAT IS THE LATEST ON MY REQUEST THAT I HAVE BEEN ASKING YOU AND JENNY FOR THIS -- I MEAN FOR US TO GET STARTED ON THIS THING.

>> THE REQUEST IS RELATED TO THE FEES THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COULD POTENTIALLY CHARGE FOR PLATTING.

WE WERE -- AS -- AS OF LAST NIGHT, WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR THOSE NUMBERS FROM PUBLIC WORKS. I AM NOT SURE -- I BELIEVE PUBLIC WORKS STATED THAT THAT IS READY.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: 9 NUMBERS YOU GAVE INITIALLY WERE, LIKE, THE

CITY NUMBERS AND -- >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: A DIFFERENCE OF THE CITY IS ALLOWED TO MAKE MONEY ON THOSE ON FEES, THE COUNTY -- THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SAID WE WERE NOT AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ADJUST OUR NUMBERS. WET TO DO IT TO JUST THE FEE -- THE AMOUNT OF COSTS THAT WILL BE INCURRED.

ACTUAL COSTS THAT WE SHOULD NOT CHARGE FEES TO INCREASE BUDGET.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUDGE. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: NO, GO AHEAD.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I WAS CONFUSED WHEN I HEARD THAT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO MAKE MONEY OR REV REVENUES. WE MAKE MONEY WHEREVER ELSE.

MONEY FROM THE TAXES, THE PIER AND THE PARK.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHEN WE SAY WE CAN'T MAKE ANY MONEY OR WE CAN'T CHARGE. OPINION THOSE MONIES ARE GOING TO BE GENERATED BACK INTO THAT DEPARTMENT.

IF WE CREATE ONE. TO SUPPLEMENT A STAFF OR SUPPLEMENT PAPERWORK. THE THIRD TIME IT COMES UP.

>>>JUDGE SCOTT: I THINK THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT JENNY SAID WE COULD -- IF WE RECALL CORRECTLY AND JENNY IS NOT HERE.

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I AM SORRY, CISCO. SOMETHING ABOUT -- THAT WE COULD COVER COST AND WE NEEDED THE ABILITY OF TIME AND EFFORT AND COST THAT IT WAS GOING TO TAKE YOU TO DO THOSE, BUT WE COULDN'T REALLY GENERATE, LIKE, A TAX, A FEE FOR SOMETHING TO INCREASE, MAKE OVER THAT AMOUNT. DO YOU REMEMBER THAT, WAVRN

JUAN? >> I WILL BE HONEST, JUDGE.

THAT WAS LAST NIGHT AT 7:00. >>JUDGE SCOTT: I MEANT COURT.

WE DISCUSS IT IN COURT. MAYBE YOU WEREN'T IN COURT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT. IT WAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH

THAT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: DALE, LET ME ASK YOU. HOW DO WE MAKE MONEY?

>>DALE ATCHLEY: ALL DEPENDS ON HOW THE LAW IS WRITTEN.

THE LAW IS WRITTEN IN WAY OF FUNDS WITH WHAT THE ATTORNEYS SAY OF THIS. WRITTEN REQUIREMENTS.

SOME ITEMS, MUNICIPALITIES CAN DO CERTAIN THINGS WHERE THE COUNTY CAN'T. SOME ITEMS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE

THEY DO THE REVIEW ON IT. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ:

FRANCISCO. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: COMMISSIONER

CHESNEY ALSO WANTS TO SPEAK. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: GO

AHEAD. >>JUDGE SCOTT: NO YOU GO AHEAD.

HERNTZ HERNANDEZ WE CAN'T MAKE MONEY?

>> DEPENDING ON CERTAIN STATUTES FOR CERTAIN ITEMS. A SPECIFIC STATUTORY AMOUNT WE ARE ALLOWED TO CHARGE ON.

IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE AND CIRCUMSTANCE, WE ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO MAKE THE AMOUNT MUCH MONEY WE USE TO OPERATE AND RUN THE PROGRAM WHICH IS I BELIEVE WHAT IS THE REQUEST THAT WE ARE ASKING FROM PUBLIC WORKS TO HELP US DETERMINE WHAT THE COST IS TO RUN THE PROGRAM SO WE CAN GENERATE THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.

THAT IS THE INQUIRY. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: AT PUBLIC WORKS WANTS TO SET A FEE OF $100, $500.

YOU WANT THEM TO BRAKE DOWN THAT AMOUNT AND TELL YOU ALL HOW MUCH TIME IT IS GOING TO TAKE TO GENERATE THAT?

>> GENERALLY -- THAT MIGHT BE ONE WAY TO DO IT.

THE MAIN IDEA THOUGH IS HOW MUCH MUCH IT COST OFFERS TO RUN THE PROGRAM OR OPERATE IT WILL BE THE COST WILL BE THE AMOUNT THAT

WE CHARGE. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: ANY AMOUNT HOW COSTLY IT WILL BE FOR YOU ALL?

>> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, IT MAY VARY.

A SIMPLE PLAT OR A PLAT WITH TWO OR THREE SHEETS OR $100 OR

$5,000. >>JUDGE SCOTT: COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HAS A QUESTION BEFORE YOU FINISH.

>> ON THE ATTACHED DOCUMENT BASED ON THE NUMBER OF ACRES.

SO ALL DEPENDENT ON THAT. >> IF I MAY FEE SCHEDULE CAN BE USED TO ACCOUNT FOR THE DIFFERENCES OF THE PROPERTIES AND THE TIMES OF PLATTING THAT NAY BE DONE TO ACCOUNT FOR THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT IS BEING PERF

PERFORMED. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: THE SCHEDULED THAT I HAD THAT BAXTER COUNTY WAS CHARGING FOR ONE OR

TWO ACRES. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

LESS THAN ONE ACRE, A CERTAIN FEE.

BETWEEN ONE AND FIVE ACRES, A SET FEE.

AND IF IT IS OVER FIVE ACRES, ANOTHER SET FEE.

A SET FEE PER ACRE. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: OKAY, SO YOU ARE SAYING, FRANCISCO, THEY ARE ALLERGIESED TO BREAK AT THAT DOWN. IF IT IS IT IS A SET FEE DEPENDING ON THE ACREAGE. SAME AMOUNT OF TIME, WOULDN'T IT BE, TO LOOK AT THE PAPERWORK AND GET IT DONE?

>> THAT IS THE QUESTION FOR THE PEOPLE ADMINISTERING THE PROGRAM

WHICH WOULD BE PUBLIC WORKS. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: YOU

GUYS ARE ASKING THAT QUESTION? >> YES, WE ARE ASKING FOR CONFIRMATION THAT THE FEES WE ARE CHARGING CONSISTENT WITH THE

AMOUNT OF WORK BEING DONE. >> LOOKING AT THE FEES AND COMPARABLE. THE SAME AMOUNT OF WORK.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IS UP NEXT.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: PART OF THE REASON IT CAN'T GO FORWARD EITHER BECAUSE I AM STILL WAITING FOR AN ADVISORY FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDS WITH WE EVEN NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN IT.

NEW LEGISLATION SENT TO ME. NOT THE LEGISLATION BUT NOTICE SENT TO ME THAT WE MAY NOT EVEN NEED TO BE INVOLVED WITH PLATTING ANYMORE IF WE DO CERTAIN THINGS.

I ASKED THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO REACH OUT TO THE COASTAL BEND HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION PAUSE THEY HELPED TO WRITE THIS LEGISLATION AND THERE IS LAW ON IT. I HAVEN'T RECEIVED THAT EITHER.

AND I AM NOT SAYING THAT IN A NEGATIVE WAY.

I AM SAYING THAT IS PART OF THE REASON IF WE KNOW WE HAVE TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS AT ALL. I AM NOT 100%.

ED BUILDER ASSOCIATION SAID THEY HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE COUNTY

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ATTORNEY'S OFFICE YET. THEY HAVE ALL THIS LEGISLATION.

THEY HELPED WRITE THE LEGISLATION AND HAVE LEGAL COUNSEL ON IN AND CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON AT STATUS IF WE NEED TO BE INVOLVED AS A COUNTY IN PLATTING ANYMORE.

THAT IS NUMBER ONE. THERE IS NO POINT OF DOING ALL THIS WORK TO COME UP WITH THESE FEE IT IS THE COURT DECIDES -- IF I AM UNDERSTANDING THIS LEGISLATION RIGHT.

I HAVEN'T SEEN IT. NOT 100% AND GETTING IT FROM A TEXT. IF THE COURT DECIDES WE DON'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED WITH THIS ANYMORE, WE DON'T NEED TO WORRY HOW MUCH THE FEES AND HOW MUCH THIS IS AND THAT IS.

THAT IS FIRST AND FOREMOST THAT REALLY THIS COURT NEEDS TO ADDRESS IN REGARDS TO THAT, SO PLEASE REACH OUT TO THE COASTAL BEND HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION AND WILL GET YOU IN TOUCH WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WROTE THAT LEGISLATION.

MAYBE I AM OFF BASED ON THIS BUT WE NEED TO GET THAT DONE BEFORE WE DO ALL THIS. SECOND, SO SIMPLY ADD FEES IF, IN FACT, THIS -- IF I AM NOT TOLD IS NOT CORRECT, SIMPLY ADDING FEES BUT NOT ENGAGING THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND BRINGING THEM IN AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS FOR THEM TO EXPLAIN IS ALSO SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE DOING BECAUSE MY FEELING IS, WE NEED TO BE GETTING A PIECE OF WHAT THE CITY CHARGES. THEY ARE ALREADY CHARGED A LOT FOR THIS AND CHARGE AGAIN AND ADD ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT COST IS GOING TO HAVE A FINANCIAL IMPACT ON THIS -- ON THIS COUNTY AND THIS COMMUNITY. SO IF WE HAVE TO STAY INVOLVED, WE HAVE TO ENGAGE THIS DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY SO THEY CAN WEIGH IN. AND, AGAIN, IF WE ARE DOING PART OF THE WORK THAT THE CITY IS CHARGING FOR, WE OUGHT TO BE GETTING A PIECE OF THEIRS, NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING, IN MY OPINION, CHARGING PEOPLE MORE FOR WHAT THEY HAVE ALREADY -- THEY ARE THINKING PER PAYING ALL THERE IS TO PAY AND NOT CHEAP.

DOING IT ALL IN THE CITY. WE SHOULD BE DOING A PIECE OF THAT. IF THIS LEGISLATION IS CORRECT, WE NEED AN ADVISORY TO THE COURT, PLEASE THEN WE MATE NOT EVEN HAVE TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS ANYMORE.

IF WE DON'T HAVE TO BE INVOLVED, THAT TAKES A LOT OF WORK OFF THE PLATE OF JUAN AND HIS GROUP AND GREAT.

IF WE HAVE TO BE. AND I AM NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE TEXTING ME, THEN WE NEED TO KNOW THAT TOO.

SO I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO ANYTHING UNLESS WE GET SOME OF THESE DUCKS IN A ROW, WHETHER OR NOT WE EVEN HAVE TO BE INVOLVED BASE ODD CONTINUE NEW LEGISLATION.

FRANCISCO, CAN YOU PLEASE REACH OUT.

I CAN GIVE YOU THE LADY'S CONTACT IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT AND AT THAT YOU CAN TO THEM. AND THEY WILL GET YOU IN TOUCH WITH THEIR TEAM THAT PUT TOGETHER A LEGISLATION.

THEY CAN GET YOU A BILL SUMMARY. AT LEAST LET'S DO THAT BEFORE WE PUSH EVERYBODY TO GET NUMBERS THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT EVEN

NEED. >>JUDGE SCOTT: COMMISSIONER MAREZ WANTS TO SPEAK. COME HERNANDEZ AND I WILL GET

YOU RIGHT AFTERWARDS, YES. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: KIND OF WHERE WE WANT TO GO. I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA. I AM NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T, BUT I WANT TOO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO DOUBLE BURDEN.

MY ONLY CONCERN. DO IT IN OTHER COUNTIES.

IF THEY ARE DOING THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AS WELL.

IF THEY ARE NOT, THAT WILL BE MY ONLY CONCERN.

I KNOW WE WANT TO GET THIS PUSHED FORWARD I SUPPORT THE CONCEPT OF IT. IF WE CAN WAIT A DAY OR TWO AND GET PUBLIC WORKS. AND OVERALL THE IDEA IS A GREAT I IDEA.

I WANT TO MOVE A LITTLE BIT FORW

FORWARD. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: COMMISSIONER

GONZALEZ. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: A GOOD POINT, COMMISSION PER. IN THE MEANTIME, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. THE CITY IS CHARGING FOR THE PLATTING. IF SOMEBODY IN THE COUNTY IS NOT GETTING THEIR SHARE PART OF IT. SO WHAT IS GOING ON? HOW COME THE CITY CAN MOVE FORWARD AND CONTINUE TO CHARGE BUT NOT THE COUNTY WITH COUNTY PROPERTY.

ETJ IN CITY AND COUNTY AND THE CITY HAS MORE POWER IN THE ETJ THAN THE COUNTY, BUT IF THE STATUTE SAYS SHOULD REIMBURSE THE COUNTY AND THEY HAVEN'T. SOME MAYBE.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: WE CONTACTED THE CITY ABOUT THAT.

YES, WE DID. AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AND THEY SAID, YES, OUR MOU WITH THEM SAID THEY WOULD REIMBURSE US. NEVER ANY FEES TO COLLECT.

THOSE FEES THEY WERE CHARGING ARE CITY FEES, NOT COUNTY FEES.

THEY NEVER COLLECTED FEES FOR US.

>>>JUDGE SCOTT: THAT IS WHAT WE WERE TOLD.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: HAVE IT IN WRITING.

IF NOT IN WRITING IT IS NOT THERE.

THE CITY REALLY OWES THE COUNTY AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED.

OWN THE COUNTY FOR THE PLATTING FEES.

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I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. WHAT THE CITY AND WHAT IS THE COUNTY. SO I WOULD LIKE.

I HAVE NEVER SEEN A FORM. CAN WE GET A WARM OF WHAT THE CITY CHARGES FOR PLATTING AND WHAT DOES IT SAY.

>> YES, SIR, WE HAVE A BREAKDOWN FROM THE CITY.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: DID YOU A BREAKDOWN.

THE SAME NUMBERS. HAVE YOU CHECKED -- HAVE THE COUNTY. ANY OTHER COUNTIES DO THAT? IF SPUR TALKING MUCH PLANNING FEES.

? >>JUDGE SCOTT: YES.

>> I GOT A CALL FROM A COUNTY REQUESTING WHAT OUR FEES ARE.

BECAUSE IMPLEMENT FEES FORKING PURPOSES.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: THEY ARE TRYING TO START AND THEY DON'T ALREADY

DO IT. >> IN THE PROCESS OF DOING IT.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: CAN YOU CHECK AND SEE IF ANY OTHER COUNTIES DO THAT AND WE CAN UTILIZE THAT INFORMATION MOVING FORWARD.

>> I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND LIKE COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ SAID WHY IS THE CITY ALLOWED AND WE ARE NOT. WHY ARE THE OTHER COUNTIES ALLOWED AND WE ARE NOT AND NUECES COUNTY.

A POWERFUL LOBBYIST AND WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE FOR ME.

AND WE SHOULD DO WHATEVER IS GOING TO HELP NUECES COUNTY IN COLLECTING FEE IS THE WAY TO GO AND I WANT TO SEE SOME LAW, FRANCISCO ON PAPER THAT SAYS WE CANNOT DO THAT.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: YOU TALK ABOUT THE LAW HAS CHANGED.

IF THE LAW HAS CHANGED. SHOW ME SOMETHING WHERE THE LAW HAS CHANGE $, OKAY. BECAUSE APPARENTLY IT ONLY

CHANGED FOR NUECES COUNTY. >> HOUSE BILL 697.

WE CAN REVIEW THAT IN EXECUTIVE IF THAT IS SOMETHING THE COURT

WOULD LIKE. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I

WOULD -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK OR IS THIS OKAYING TO MOVE IT INTO EXECUTIVE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WOULD DO IN EXECUTIVE BECAUSE I AM JUST GOING TO READ -- AND THAT IS IT EXACTLY WHAT I WANT TOO DO IT SAYS LEGISLATION OF THE COUNTY PROCESS NO LONGER NEEDS TO PLAT IF STREETS, ALLEYS, SQUARES, OTHER PARTS OF THE TRACKS ARE NOT INTENDED BY THE OWNER OF THE TRACK TO BE DEDICATED TO PUBLIC USE SO THERE ARE LANGUAGE IN 3697 THAT SPECIFICALLY STATES POTENTIAL FOR THE COUNTIES TO NOT HAVE TO BE INVOLVED IN PLATTING ANYMORE.

SO SENT THAT INFORMATION ON. SO PLEASE GET WITH THE AUGHTSERS OF THE BILL, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT.

AND THAT -- THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO THE COURT AGAIN IN A SEPARATE ITEM TO SAY, LOOK, THIS IS WHAT THE LAW IS.

IF THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT DOING IT, WE DON'T NEED TO BE INVOLVED WITH IN ANYMORE AND BE DONE WITH IT AND THEY CAN DO THE PLATS AND WE ARE OUT. ONCE WORKLOAD GOES DOWN IMMENSELY. I AM SURE HE WILL LOVE NOT TO WORRY ABOUT PLATS. I AM NOT SPEAKING FOR JUAN.

NOBODY LOVES TO DO THESE STUFF. AGREE WE NEED TO BE COMPENSATED AND COME FROM THE CITY'S PORTION AND THIS LAW HAS TO BE LOOKED AT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE EVEN NEED TO BE INVOLVED WITH PLATS ANY ANYMORE.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I AGREE, FRANCISCO.

LET'S LOOK AT THE LAW. MY OTHER QUESTION WHY ARE OTHER COUNTIES ALLOWED TO DO IT AND WE ARE INTO THE.

EVERYBODY DO IT AT THEIR OWN DISCRETION?

>> WE DON'T REPRESENT THE OTHER COUNTIES.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: APPARENTLY THEY ARE ALLOWED TO

DO IT. >>THE PAST COUNTIES THAT HAVE FEE SCHEDULES AND SUBMITTING FEES.

OUR COUNTY APPARENTLY DID NOT SUBMIT ANY SORT OF FEES.

>> BECAUSE WE DIDN'T. AND TO PROSPER FROM THOSE FEES, WE STATE IN THE CASE -- BECAUSE IT IS THE WAY IT WAS DONE AND NOW THE LAW MAY HAVE CHANGED AND THAT IS AN ITEM THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE CHANGES THAT HAVE GONE INTO

EFFECT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I AM

ALL FOR THAT. >>JUDGE SCOTT: YOU WANT ME TO PULL THIS INTO EXECUTIVE AS WELL?

[1. Discuss and consider conditional selection of Waste Connections dba/C.C. Disposal Service for Solid Waste Collection & Disposal Service (Dumpsters) County Properties Only (IFB 3249-23).]

>> YES. >>JUDGE SCOTT: MOVING ON TO ITEM D, PURCHASING. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CONDITIONAL SELECTION OF WASTE CONNECTIONS -- DO WE NEED TO VOTE IN MOVING -- WE DON'T VOTE ON IT. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CONDITIONAL SELECTION OF WASTE CONNECTIONS DBA CORPUS CHRISTI FOR SOLID WASTE COLLECTIONS AND DISPOSAL SERVICES.

DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS?

YES, MICHAEL. >> JUDGE, WE RECEIVED THREE BIDS FOR THIS ITEM AND ATTACHED IN YOUR AGENDA.

THE LOW BIDDER IS WASTE CONNECTION LOAN STAR DBA CORPUS CHRISTI DISPOSAL. AND PUBLIC WORKS RECOMMENDS

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APPROVAL. THE EXPENSE PAID BY THE DEPARTMENT BUDGETED FUNDS. I UNDERSTAND MR. GILMORE WITH REPUBLIC SERVICE CAME AND SPOKE TO THE COURT EARLIER WHICH IS HIS RIGHT. I WOULD ADVISE THE COURT AS I ALWAYS DO WHENEVER WE BRING THESE IFB ITEMS. YOU HAVE THREE CHOICES HOW TO APPROACH THAT FROM THE DECISION MAKING. AND AWARD TO THE LOWEST AND BEST BIDDER. AND THE SECOND CHOICE YOU HAVE IS TO REJECT ALL BIDS AND THE 30 CHOICE TO AWARD TO NOT THE LOW BIDDER. IF THE COURT CHOOSES TO AWARD TO SOMEONE WHO IS THE LOW BIDDER, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE TABLE THE ITEM AND COME BACK AND GIVE THE LOW BIDDER WHO IS NOT SELECTED THE OPPORTUNITY -- THEY HAVE THE REQUIREMENT UNDER 262.027-C, AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT PREVIOUSLY UNCONSIDERED EVIDENCE CONCERNING THE LOWER BID AS IS BEST THAT INCLUDE EVIDENCE OF

THE BIDDER'S RESPONSIBILITY. >>JUDGE SCOTT: CAN YOU COMMENT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT M MR. GILMORE SAID OF THE PROCESS AND NOT BEING FOLLOWED OR SOMETHING SO WE HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING WHETHER WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD OR IF SOMETHING IN

ACTUALITY WASN'T DONE CORRECTLY. >> RIGHT.

YES, SO AS YOU WILL NOTICE ON THE BID TABULATION SHEET A COLUMN. NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO ADDENDUM NUMBER TWO WHAT WAS ONE-WEEK BID EXTENSION.

THE CONTENT OF THOSE TWO ADDENDUMS. THE LOW BIDDER DID NOT PROVIDE THOSE DOCUMENTS IN THEIR BID PACKAGE. THOSE ITEMS ARE NOT LISTED IN MY LIST OF NONRESPONSIVE ITEMS. SO AS I INFORMED MR. GILMORE, THOSE ITEMS NOT BEING PRESENT AT THAT TIME ARE NOT A DISQUALIFYING FACTOR. SO WHAT USUALLY HAPPENS IF WE HAVE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE MISSING WE WILL SEND A NOTICE OF CONVENTIONAL CONVENTION THAT WE NEED A CONTRACT BACK AND ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS LIKE AER IS CERTIFICATE OF INSURANCE OR

ADDENDUM DOCUMENT. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: WE HAVE DONE THOSE IN THE PAST. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE SIGNED ADDENDUMS BEFORE THE COUNTY CAN ENTER INTO A CONTRACT.

AFTER THIS MEETING WHEN THE CONDITIONAL SELECTION IS DONE, WE WILL GO INTO NEGOTIATION PHASE WITH WHOEVER IS SELECTED.

WE WILL WORK WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE ALL THE DOCUMENTS ARE PRESENT TO BRING BACK AND BRING IT BACK FOR

EXCUSE AT THE TIME. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HAS SOME QUESTIONS, I THINK.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THANK YOU, JUDGE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A PUBLIC WORKS QUESTION OR MICHAEL'S QUESTION. MY QUESTIONS ARE SOME OF THE OTHER COMMENTS THAT MR. GILMORE MADE.

I WANT TO -- LET ME DO IT ONE AT A TIME.

FRANCISCO, YOU VET IT AND MICHAEL INDICATED TO HE WAS ARE NOT DOCUMENTS THAT ARE CONSIDERED NONCOMPLIANT.

ARE YOU REMEMBERFYING THAT ON BEHALF OF NUECES COUNTY THAT MR. ROBINSON IS RIGHT AS THE ATTORNEY.

>> ITEM 3-D-1? >>JUDGE SCOTT: YES.

>> 3-DRNGS-1 IS LEGALLY SUFFICIENT.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: LEGALLY SUFFICIENT.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DID HAVE QUESTIONS ON -- WHILE HE IS LOOKING, REGARDING SOME OF THE OTHER COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE. WHO DOES CHECK THESE DISPOSALS.

WHO CHECKS TO MAKE SURE IT THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE.

OSHA VIOLATIONS. DOES ANYONE CHECK THAT.

OBJECT YUNSLY THEY ARE SIGNIFICANT ALLEGATIONS MADE BY MR. GILMORE AND SOMEBODY HAVEN'T CHECKED THOSE OUT, WE NEED TO KNOW WHY. IF SOMEONE NEEDS TIME IN TO CHECK IT OUT, THAT IS FINE. WE AT LEAST NEED TO KNOW IF -- IF WE ARE DOING SOMETHING THAT IS TAN OSHA VIOLATION.

NOT WE, BUT THEM. NOT WE.

WE AREN'T DOING IT. >> COMMISSIONER, I TALKED TO MY STAFF AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS IS BROUGHT IT UP WITH ATTENTION. I I WANT TO GET TO MY STAFF AND IF IT IS, WE WILL NOTIFY THE COURT.

BUT WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT IT, COMMISSIONER.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: HE SAID HE SENT PHOTOS AROUND TO US.

>> YES, MA'AM, THE PHOTOS WERE SENT TO US.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: TO YOU AS WELL. >> WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND

GET WITH STAFF ON IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: OKAY.

I WILL GO BACK. HAND THIS IS FAIR.

I DON'T THINK I EVEN SEEN THEM EITHER AND I WILL LOOK AT MY E-MAIL BALLS I AM ONLINE HERE. THE OTHER -- SO BACK TO CISCO.

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ARE THOSE NONCOMPLIANT DOCUMENTS OR ARE THEY NON -- WHATEVER HE SAID THEY WERE, IS MICHAEL RIGHT? IS IT SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T MAKE THEM NONCOMPLIANCE?

DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT? >> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER OF THAT PRESIDENT. THE.ITEM THAT THIS ITEM IS

LEGALLY SUFFICIENT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK I SENT SOMETHING TO YOU ALL ON THAT.

I CAN'T REMEMBER IF YOU RESPONDED.

I WILL HAVE TO PULL UP MY E-MAILS TO SEE IF INDEED YOU ALL VERIFIED THAT. BUT I DO -- I MEAN I HAVE TO SAY. IF SOMEONE MAKES YOU A WARE OF AN ALLEGATION OR SOMETHING THAT COULD BE WRONG.

WE AT LEAST NEED TO LOOK AT IT. I GET IT, IT IS LAST MINUTE AND TABLE IT TO DETERMINE IF THESE PEOPLE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH OSHA AND DOING WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING, BECAUSE TO ME, THAT CAN BE SIGNIFICANT IF WE ARE NOW ARE PUT ON NOTICE AND DO SOMETHING WITHOUT CHECKING. I THINK THAT COULD BE --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: I 100% AGREE. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY.

I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO TABLE TO OUR NEXT MEETING NOVEMBER 8.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SECOND. I WANT TO SAY ONE THING.

MICHAEL, NO BIDDER IS A LOW BIDDER.

BUT I AM CONCERNED WHAT HE SAID. JUAN, YOUR TEAM MONITOR THIS PROCESS, I GUESS, WHENEVER THERE IS A COMPLAINT OR WHAT?

>> YES, SIR. >> YES, SIR, WE WILL TAKE LOOK

AT IT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: TO DO IT ON A ROUTINE BASIS OR A COMPLAINT OUR STAFF HAS BEEN OUT THERE LOOKING AT IT AND THE FIRST TIME IT WAS BROUGHT UP TO

OUR ATTENTION. >>JUDGE SCOTT: IT WAS BROUGHT UP THIS MORNING. HAS ANYBODY GONE THERE TO CHECK

OBJECT IT. >> NO, MA'AM.

I WILL CHECK WITH BOBBY AND STAFF.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SOMETHING THAT SOMETIMES ALTHOUGH WE HAVE ISSUE WITH THE LOW BIDDER.

>> IF YOU DON'T BE MIND IF I INTERRUPT REAL QUICK, WHEN A SITUATION LIKE THIS COMES UP, THE OPPORTUNITY IS TO INVITE THE LOW BIDDER TO COME SPEAK TO THEIR RESPONSIBILITY ON OF WHAT ISSUES OR QUESTIONS THAT THE COURT HAS.

AND THEN THE COURT UPON HEARING THAT CAN DETERMINE IF THEY -- IF THEY HAVE SATISFIED THE COURT'S INTEREST IN THE MATTER OR IF THEY HAVE NOT. IF THEY HAVE NOT, COURT IS PROVIDED AND MET THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT OF GIVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF AND IF THE COURT IS NOT SATISFIED THE COURT IS IN IT'S RIGHT --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE THIS.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: SORRY JUDGE.

I DID HAVE EXPERIENCE WHEN I WAS WORKING BACK THERE IN PURCHASING. I MYSELF HAD A SLIP AND FALL AND WATER AND FLUIDS BECAUSE -- DOES THE JAIL STILL THROW THE

LEFTOVERS INTO THAT DUMPSTER? >> I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: WHERE DO THEY THROW THEIR TRASH, MIKE?

>> YOU WILL HAVE TO TALK TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ABOUT THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I AM SAYING WHERE DO THEY THROW THEIR

TRASH? >> AGAIN, I WILL HAVE TO GIVE IT TO THE SHERIFF, I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE PUTS ALL HIS TRASH.

I KNOW A DUMPSTER THAT SITS IN BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS.

JUAN, PEOPLE PROBABLY KNOW BEST WHAT IT IN THAT TRASH, I DON'T.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: AGAIN WORKING AT THE DEPARTMENT, I USED TO SEE THE SHERRIFF'S DEPARTMENT TAKE THEIR LEFTOVERS, CLEAN OUTS AND DUMP ALL THAT STUFF INTO THE DUMPSTER.

AND SOME OF THOSE WEATHER WATER OR FLUIDS.

THEY WOULD LEAK OUT. AND THEY NEED TO BE SANITIZED.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IS HAPPE

HAPPENING. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: A MOTION AND SECOND TO BRING BACK NOVEMBER 8, TABLE THIS ITEM.

AND IN THE MEANTIME, PUBLIC WORKS WILL LET US ALL KNOW THEIR EYE VALUATION AFTER GOING OUT AND LOOKING AT THESE SINCE WE DID RECEIVE PHOTOS AND A COMPLAINT OF VIOLATION.

SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

[2. Discuss and consider conditional selection for Modernization of Technology Infrastructure for Cyber-Security Equipment (IFB 3247-23).]

THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 2, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CONDITIONAL SELECTION FOR MODERNIZATION OF TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE FOR CYBER SECURITY EQUIPMENT.

>> YES, JUDGE. THIS ITEM WE RECEIVED SIX BIDS.

RECOMMENDATION IS TO CONDITIONALLY SELECT THE FOLLOWING VENDORS FOR ITEMS A-D 2, SHI GOVERNMENT SOLUTIONS --

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SORRY I SKIPPED ONE, CYBER SECURITY REFRESH, INSIGHT PUBLIC SECTOR, INC. IS RECOMMENDED FOR NETWORK SECURITY REFRESH.

FIVE DIFFERENT AREAS THERE. A-D-2.

HI GOVERNMENT SOLUTIONS. E THROUGHJ, PUBLIC SECTOR INC.

K-L 1. ITEMS M-M 7, SALT CREEK IS TECHNOLOGIES, LOW-PRESSURE SYSTEM LOW-PRESSURE SYSTEMC.

ITEMM, INSIGHT PUBLIC SECTOR IS RECOMMENDED.

HYPER CONVERGE DATA CENTER CDW GOVERNMENT LCC IS RECOMMENDED.

THE IT DIRECTOR RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND ■EXPENSESTOBEPAID WITHIN ARPA FUNDS AND MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE TOTAL

COST IS ALL WITHIN THE AMOUNT -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: THE AMOUNT BUDGETED. I MAKE A MOTION TO PASS.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: SECOND.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

[1. Approve Capital Budget Change Order No. 126.]

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU.

MOVING ON TO ITEM E, THE AUDITOR, WHY APPROVE CAPITAL

BUDGET CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 126. >>DALE ATCHLEY: THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. WE MADE THE PROCESS WE FOUND SOME ITEMS NEED TO HAVE REVISIONS FOR YOUR AT THAT POINT TALL PROJECTS FROM INTEREST LEARN AND AN INCREASE CAN OF UNALLOCATED FUND ITEMS LIKE ON ITEM 21, WE SAW ADDITIONAL INTEREST BUT 58 KATED ASSUME OR PORTION OF IT WITH APPROVAL, OF COURSE. B ANDC AND ADDITIONAL FUNDS OF THE 48,000 FOR 2016 ON PAGE 2, ALL THESE INCREASES.

YOU WILL SEE THE LARGEST ONE IS 1925 OF ALLOCATING AN ADDITIONAL 1.8 MILLION INTO THE INTERAL SKATED FUND OF 20921 COS.

THESE WERE ADDITIONAL INTERESTS WE HAVE.

THESE FUNDS WERE ONLY ALLOCATED THROUGH YOUR APPROVAL WITH ADDITIONAL 14,378 FUNDS AND TRYING TO MAKE THEM CLEARED UP TO HAVE THE BALANCES READY TO GO WITH A WORK DAY AND SUBMITTED FOR 126 FOR YOUR ACCEPTANCE AND APPROVAL.

I WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: I DON'T THINK YOU CAN WALK OUT AND MAKE THE MOTION. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APP APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >>JUDGE SCOTT: A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

[2. Approve the Monthly Financial Report, P-card Report and Unreconciled P-Card transactions through August 2023.]

OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION PASSES, THANK YOU.

AND ITEM NUMBER 2, APPROVE THE MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT, P-CARD REPORT AND UNRECONCILED TRANSACTIONS.

>>DALE ATCHLEY: FOR THE APPRO PRAISER IN AUGUST.

AGAIN, IT IS A LOT OF REASONS FOR THIS OLD SOFTWARE NOT GETTING THE INFORMATION AND YOU HEARD SOME UNRECONCILED COST WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS PURCHASING TO GET THESE RESOLVE AND WORKING ON THAT AND SIGNIFICANT.

GUILT THROUGH THIS QUICKER THAN I NORMALLY WOULD GO THROUGH THIS FOR TIME. PAGES 4 AND 5, YOU WILL SEE THE BALANCE IS OUR OPERATING FUNDS WITH THE GENERAL FUND BEING THE MOST IMPORTANT. YOU WILL SEE $47 MILLION FOR FUND BALANCE, BUT WE KNOW THE PERIOD OF SEPTEMBER WHICH IS OUR LARGEST ONE COMING UP IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE BALANCES COME FROM AND EXPENSES COME DOWN.

AS WE KNOW MOST OF THE REVENUE HAS BEEN COLLECTED FOR THE PERIOD AND WE EXPECT THAT TO GO DOWN WHERE WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE AS OUR BUDGET CYCLE GOES THROUGH.

PAGES 10 AND 11, OUR BALANCE FOR SELF-INSURANCE FUND.

AS WE GO THROUGH OUR PROCESS OF GROUP HEALTH FOR AUGUST IS $366,657. YOU APPROVED A TRANSFER OF $4 MILLION FROM GENERAL FUND TO OUR INSURANCE INSURANCE FUND AND VERY LARGE EXPENSES FROM THE HEALTH HEALTH INSURANCE FUND AND FUND BALANCE AT $3666. WE KNOW OF THE PERIOD OVER THE LAST PERIOD OF TIME WE HAD FOR SEPTEMBER, WE HAD OVER $4 MILLION WORTH OF PLANS. ENTIRE CLAIM.

ENTIRE CLAIM OF OVER 4 MILLION. AND WE KNOW WE HAVE THEM COMING UP IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.

AND FUNDS WERE NEEDED AT THAT TIME.

IF WE GO TO OUR ROAD -- SOME OF OUR POSITIVE NUMBERS ARE ON PAGE 16. PAGE 16, YOU WILL SEE OUR COLLECTIONS FOR REVENUE. WE ARE ALREADY -- AUGUST COLLECTED 101% OF OUR REVENUE THAT IS VERY PROMISING.

LARGEST ONE OF THE COURSES ARE INTEREST.

AND INTERESTS THROUGH THE PROCESS OF OUR -- OF OUR INFLATIONS THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH NOW, INTEREST RATES ARE VERY HIGH AND SEEING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY THROUGH OUR REVENUE AND YOU WILL SEE INVESTMENTS HERE TO DATE

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THAT IS $4.8 MILLION FOR YEAR-TO-DATE ACTIVITIES AND SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. THE REST OF THE BALANCES ARE -- IF POSSIBLE TO GO TO THE ENDING OF THE BALANCES FOR OUR HEALTH -- WHERE -- PAGE 61. PAGE 61 SHOWS YOU WHAT IS LEFT OF OUR EXPENSES. AND I WANT TO COMMEND THE COMMISSIONERS AS WELL AS ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TRYING TO LIMIT SOME MUCH OUR COSTS. AS YOU SEE, W, WE HAVE 25.1% OF THE BUDGET REMAINING. DOING TRANSFER AND THAT NUMBER WILL GO DOWN SLIGHTLY BECAUSE OUR BUDGET IS $11 MILLION AND SPEND THREE. EXPECTED TO GO DOWN.

WE HAVE A PERCENT LEFT TO GO. AND WE STILL WANT TO TRY TO GET WHERE WE ARE AROUND 58 TO 90% OF OUR EXPENSES.

AND THAT IS PROMISING AND WHERE WE ARE EXPECTED TO BE.

THAT IS OUR REPORT FOR OUR FINANCES.

GO TO OUR P-CARD BALANCES. THE P-CARD BALANCES WHAT THE TOTAL COSTS WERE FOR THE 11 MONTHS ON PAGE -- IT IS PAGE 5.

PAGE 5 OF THE P-CARD SECTION OF IT 80 PAGES IN.

3,823,214 FOR TOTAL EXPENSES AND A BREAKDOWN OF EACH.

NO TIME TO GO THROUGH THAT. THE ONE I WANT TO TRY TO BRING INTO QUESTION, FINAL THREE PAGES OF YOUR REPORT -- FINAL FOUR PAGES OF YOUR REPORT, YOU WILL SEE WHAT WE CALL UNRECONCILED TRANSACTIONS. TRANSACTIONS THAT HAD SOMEONE ISSUE A P-CARD AND THESE TRANSITIONS HAVE NOT BEEN RECONCILED OR RESOLVED OR VERIFIED AND SOME OF THE DELAY HAS BEEN GOING ON. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS, WORKING WITH 3R67ING AND WE ARE STILL GETTING SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF NUMBERS THAT ARE HERE.

AND GO THROUGH EACH OF THEM IS A TOE STALL OF $86,000 OF UNRECONCILED CHARGES. WE NEED TO GET THESE RESOLVED BEFORE WE GET TO WORKDAY. AND SO WE KNOW THE BALANCES ARE CORRECT. I WENT THROUGH THIS VERY QUICKLY AND THE 11-MONTH REPORT FOR AUGUST 1 OF OUR FINANCE REPORT, P-CARD AND UNRECONCILED CLAIMS. I WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND OTHERWISE

SUBMIT IT FOR YOUR ACCEPTANCE. >>JUDGE SCOTT: WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT. I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.

AND IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I KNOW ONE OF THE COMMENTS WE MADE ON THE P-CARD THINGS, WE WANTED TO POSSIBLY PUTS OUT A NOTICE AGAIN FOR EVERYBODY TO DO THAT, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THESE ARE IN 1270 THAT IS NOT LIKE WE CAN PUT OUT A -- A CALL TO A DIFFERENT

DEPARTMENT. >>DALE ATCHLEY: THE ONE THERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE CHANGES LIKE ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT.

WE ARE TRYING TO GET THOSE RESOLVED AND TRYING TO FIND RECEIPTS AND STUFF. AN ISSUE.

NOW WHEN WE GET TO WORK DAY. WILL BE MORE STRINGENT ON HOW STUFF DOES AND MORE NOTIFICATIONS.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED -- OH, SORRY, BRENT.

ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES.

[1. Discuss and consider ratification of the Aetna Stop Loss Policy effective from 10/01/2023 to 9/30/2024.]

THANK YOU. >>DALE ATCHLEY: THANK YOU, YOUR

HONOR. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: THANK YOU.

ITEM F-1, CONSIDER THE ET FLORIDA STOP LOSS POLICY EFFECTIVE 10/1/23 TO 9/30/24. I SIGNED THIS THE OTHER DAY AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE IT ON CONSENT.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO FALL SHORT OF POUR STOP LOSS AETNA.

SO THIS IS REALLY JUST A RAT IF ITATION, BUT JUST IN ALL FAIRNESS AND TRANSPARENCY WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THIS CONTRACT WAS JUST RECENTLY SIGNED. SO THERE SHOULD BE -- I GUESS, NO ACTION SINCE WE ALREADY VOTED ON THE CONTRACT BEFORE.

IT IS JUST AN UPDATE. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THE CONTRACT WAS SIGNED.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, A RATIFICATION WHAT IT SAYS ON THE

AGENDA. >>JUDGE SCOTT: WE PROBABLY SHOULD VOTE TO. VOTE TWICE ON THE SAME THING AGAIN. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION.

I SIGNED IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SECOND

THE MOTION TO RATIFY. >>JUDGE SCOTT: A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RATIFY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. AND WE KNOW WHAT THAT STOP LOSS POLICY IS. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

[2. Discuss and consider approval of the HireRight Agreement to provide background check services.]

AND WE DIDN'T NEED TO GET BEHIND ON THAT ITEM NUMBER 2, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE HIRERIGHT AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE BACKGROUND SERVICES. HAS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OR ARE YOU ALL FINE WITH MOVING FORWARD? I THINK THE LAST CONVERSATION I HAD WITH HUMAN RESOURCES IS, YES, Y'ALL HAD RECEIVED THEM BACK.

WHICH WERE GOOD. >> WE HAD SENT AN UPDATE TO

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HUMAN RESOURCES ON 3/18 RELATED TO OUR THOUGHTS ON THE AGREEMENT. WE ARE JUST WAITING FOR THEM TO HIRERIGHT TO SEND THE CHANGES, MOST OF WHICH THEY HAVE ACCEPTED I BELIEVE ONE CHANGE THAT IS NOT ACC

ACCEPTED. >>JUDGE SCOTT: HAVE YOU RECEIVED

OTHER INFORMATION? >> I SPOKE TO WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND THE AGREEMENT WITH AS TO INVOLVE FORWARD WITH THE CUSTOMER SERVICE AGREEMENT AND WAITING FOR ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS FOR THE ADDENDUMS THAT THEY SENT, BUT BECAUSE OF THE -- OF THE AGREEMENT BY HIRERIGHT TO COMPLY WITH OUR REQUEST, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FELT CONFIDENT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND JUST WAIT ON THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

I DID SPEAK TO HIRERIGHT THIS MORNING.

THEY ARE THREE HOURS BEHIND US BECAUSE THEY ARE ON THE WEST COAST AND IT IS 9:00 NOW AND THE ATTORNEYS DRAFTING THE DOCUMENTS AS WE SPEAK AND I ANTICIPATE GETTING IT TODAY.

>> WE CAN MAKE AT THAT MOTION. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IS TELLING US TO MAKE A MOTION AND INCLUDE CONTINGENT OF THEM FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH THE AGREEMENT AND SENDING BACK THE CHANGE WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY CHANGES ON THERE.

>> YES, JUDGE. IT IS VERY CRITICAL BECAUSE WE ARE BEGINNING TRAINING IN WORK DAY NEXT MONTH.

WE ARE BEHIND IN CHOOSING A BACKGROUND VENDOR.

SO WE REALLY NEED TO GET THE PROCESS STARTED BECAUSE THEY NEED TO INTEGRATE IF INTO WORK DAY.

AS I MENTIONED THE TRAIN ALSO OCCUR BEGINNING RIGHT AFTER

THANK THANKSGIVING -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT, CISCO, MOVING FORWARD CON DING GENT OF YOU RECEIVING

ACCEPTED CHANGES. >> YES THERE WAS ONE CLAUSE THEY DID NOT AGREE TO THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS THE BUSINESS

DECISION. >> THE INDEMNITY CLAUSE AND IT WAS ALREADY AGREED TO IN THE CUSTOMER SERVICE AGREEMENT.

THE INDEMNITY CLAUSE WAS JUST -- THE COUNTY ATTORNEY THOUGHT THAT THEY OVERLOOKED IT IN THE ADDENDUM, WHICH WAS JUST A SOCIAL MEDIA ADDENDUM. SO NOT REALLY THAT PERTINENT TO OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE AGREEMENT. WHAT MATTERS MOSTLY ISSERGEANT CUSTOMER SERVICE AGREEMENT. AND WE WON'T SIGN IF IT IS NOT.

>>>JUDGE SCOTT: COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, YOU HAVE A QUESTION?

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CISCO SAYS THIS IS A BUSINESS DECISION. WE TABLED IN ONCE BEFORE TO GET FINAL REVIEW FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND BEFORE WE MAKE A BUSINESS DECISION, DO YOU WANT TO REMIND THE COURT HERE OR GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION OR WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO BECAUSE WE NEED -- I CAN'T VOTE FOR THIS BASED ON BUSINESS DECISION IF YOU DON'T REMIND ME OF WHAT THIS IS AND STILL UNRESOLVED, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO NEXT.

>> I DIDN'T HAVE THE INDEMNITY CLAUSE ON MY NOTES BUT ANOTHER CLAUSE THAT PERHAPS I CAN REMIND YOU OF THAT IN EXECUTIVE SESS SESSION.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO HEAR SOMETHING ON THIS FROM THE LAWYER. BECAUSE INDEMNITY CLAUSE ARE

KIND OF IMPORTANT. >>JUDGE SCOTT: WE WILL MOVE IT

[1. Approve Year-4 renewal purchase with Tyler Technologies for Odyssey SAAS Hosting Online from October 1, 2023 to September 30, 2024.]

INTO EXECUTIVE. YES, NUMBER TWO.

MOVING ON THEN TO ITEM G. I.T.

APPROVE A FOUR-YEAR RENEWAL PURCHASE WITH TYLER K57 TECHNOLOGIES ODYSSEY SAAS HOSTING ONLINE FROM OCTOBER TO SEPTEMBER 30, 2024. THIS IS YEAR FOUR OF THE SIX AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE. IT IS BUDGETED FOR FOR.

EVERYTHING IS PAID. SO I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO

SAY PROVE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WELL, WAIT. IS THERE A SECOND?

>>JUDGE SCOTT: YOU ARE GOING TO SECOND IT FOR DISCUSSION IN.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NO. I WILL SECOND IT FOR DISCUSSION.

I MIGHT NOT VOTE FOR IT. I JUST -- YOU KNOW, I HATE TO SEE WHEN I SEE IT HERE ONE YEAR. WILL COST US HOW MUCH FOR ONE

YEAR. >>THE 800 AND --

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SIX YEARS, ONE YEAR OR FOUR YEARS?

>> ONE YEAR. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ:

826,000. >> TOTAL OF $4.6 MILLION.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: OKAY. THIS IS -- THIS IS IT FOR --

UPGRADING THE WHAT? >> FOR OUR CASE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE USED IN THE JUSTICE COURTS FOR OUR JAIL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND FOR OUR ATTORNEY MODULE.

THAT THE DA OFFICE USES. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: CASE MANAGEMENT. WASN'T SOMEBODY -- OKAY, TYLER

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TECHNOLOGIES. WASN'T TYLER TECHNOLOGIES SUPPOSED TO KIND OF GRADUALLY BE UPDATING SOME OF THIS.

WHAT IS -- THIS IS A YEARLY BASIS THING OR WHAT?

>> YEAH, WE DO RECEIVE UPDATES. WE STARTED OFF WITH LIKE VERSION 2012. AND ON '14 WHEN I GOT HERE AND ON VERSION 2019, BUT RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE A BIG PUSH TO GET TO 2023. SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT NOW.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU SAY CASE MANAGEMENT.

SAYING FOR CASE MANAGEMENTS -- >> THIS IS FOR OUR COURTS.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THE COURTS.

YES, DISTRICT COUNTY AND JP COURTS.

COURT CASE MANAGEMENT. ALL CASES RUN THROUGH THIS

SOFTWARE. >>JUDGE SCOTT: OUR COURTS AND

THE JAIL. >> AND THE JAIL AS WELL.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ANYBODY ELSE CAN DO IT CHEAPER THAN

TYLER? >> I AM WORKING ON THAT.

A SIX-YEAR AGREEMENT. WE ARE KIND OF STUCK WITH IT.

THIS IS YEAR FOUR. NOT EARLY.

WE STARTED TO LOOK. >>JUDGE SCOTT: THIS IS YEAR

FOUR. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: FOURTH

YEAR. >> NEXT YEAR IT WILL GO UP A LITTLE BIT MORE AND THE FINAL YEAR IT GOES UP IS A BIT FOR THAT FINAL YEAR. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN REALLY GOOD COMPETITION IN THIS MARKET. AT LEAST I KNOW WHEN WE STARTED BUT THERE ARE OTHER PACKAGES OUT THERE.

THIS IS A VERY POPULAR ONE. BUT I -- I AM REALLY HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN FIND SOME COMPRETIGS.

I DO EXPECT TO BE GOING OUT FOR BIDS WHENEVER IT IS TIME.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NEXT YEAR?

>> NEXT YEAR WE WILL WRITE SOMETHING.

WE ARE WORKING ON IT. WE STARTED ON IT THE LAST FISCAL YEAR AND WORKING THROUGH IT THIS FISCAL YEAR OF GETTING COMPETITION CANDIDATES AND LOOKING AT DEMOS AND HOPEFULLY GO INTO A BID PROCESS NEXT YEAR AND SEE WHAT WICK COME UP WITH.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THIS IS ALL THE FINES AND FEES AND EVERYTHING ELSE FOR THE J.P.S, RIGHT?

>> DOES QUITE A BIT. THE COUNTY THE ERP SYSTEM, OUR IN THE THAT MANAGES ANYTHING FOR US, AND THIS CASE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE. THE THREE THINGS THAT PRETTY MUCH COMPRISE ALL OF OUR BUSI

BUSINESS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: CAN -- CAN THE J.P.S THROUGH THIS SOFTWARE.

>> YES, J.P. USE THE SOFTWARE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: CAN THEY SEE WHAT THE OTHER J.P. HAS.

>> WE CONTROL INTERNALLY WE CONTROL ACCESS.

BUT, YES, ABOUT, FOR THE MOST PART, YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF INFORMATION BUT SOME OF IT IS LEFT CONFIDENTIAL WHILE THE CASES ARE OPEN. THE MOST PART, AT SOME POINT, IT IS GOING -- AT THE BEGINNING A LOT OF IT IS PUBLIC INFORMATION AND AT THE END OF A LOT OF C CASES.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: IF A GUY GOES TO J.P. IN ROBSTOWN AND AGUA D UNIONSLCE AND PRECINCT 2 AND THE OVER SIDE --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I AM SORRY.

CAN THEY PULL IT OUT WHEN THEY COME OUT.

WILL IT SHOW THAT THIS PERSON WAS ALREADY IN J.P. COURT 5-1 OR

5-2. >> THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE PRECINCT WHERE IT HAPPENED AT. WHEN YOU GET CITED OR HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THIS OR IF THE CASE IS FILED, IT WILL HAPPEN WITHIN THE PRECINCT. YOUR CONSTABLES, DEPUTY SHERIFFS OR DPS. THEY CITE SOMEONE WHOSE AREA

THEY ARE IN. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I THOUGHT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GO TO THE SOFTWARE.

ONCE YOU COO HE IT IN IS EVERYWHERE NOTHING CONFIDENTIAL BECAUSE WE HAVE CLIENTS. I THOUGHT AT ONE POINT A SOFTWARE IF I KEY IT IN PRECINCT 2 AND THEN PRECINCT 5 AND CACHE ROBS TOWN. AND PRECINCT.

WHAT HAPPENS -- I THOUGHT. >> YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE A CASE IN THERE. I AM TALKING OF WORKING THE CASE THAT WAS FILED. WHAT IT IT WAS A CASE THAT CAME UP IN A PARTICULAR PRECINCT. OTHERS CAN SEE IT.

IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT GOT CITED IN BOTH LOCATIONS AND ONE COULD SEE THAT IT HAPPENED IN THE OTHER SO THERE WAS -- THEY

WOULD KNOW MULTIPLE INFRACTIONS. >> YOU COULD SEE THAT?

>> YES. >> THEY COULD PAY THEIR FINES AT ANY OF THE JPS AND AT THE COURTHOUSE ONLINE.

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>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: A LOT OF MONEY THOUGH.

>> YES. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: OKAY,

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >>JUDGE SCOTT: A MOTION AND A SECOND. DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE YOUR MOTION, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ TO SECOND IT?

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: TO SECOND IT?

>>JUDGE SCOTT: YOU SECOND IT FOR DISCUSSION TO PASS.

ARE YOU OKAY WITH -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I DON'T LIKE THE AMOUNT. I DON'T LIKE THE PRICE.

BUT THAT'S ALL WE GOT IS THE CONTRACT.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: IT IS A CONTRACT BEEN HERE -- THIS IS THE FOURTH

YEAR. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I GUESS

SO. >>JUDGE SCOTT: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES.

[4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.]

THANK YOU. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: WE ARE NOW AT EXECUTIVE. AND WE PULLED A LOT OF ITEMS IN HERE. SO PUBLIC NOTICE IS GIVEN THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY ELECT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ANY TIME DURING THE MEETING TO DISCUSS MATTERS LISTED ANYWHERE ON THE AGENDA WHEN AUTHORIZED BY PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO THE EXTENT THERE HAS BEEN A PAST PRACTICE OF DISTINGUISHING ITEMS FOR PUBLIC DELIBERATION AND THE PUBLIC IS ADVISED THAT THE COURT IS DEPARTING FROM THAT PRACTICE, AND RESERVES THE RIGHT TO DISCUSS ANY LISTED AGENDA ITEMS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION IN AUTHORIZED BY LAW TO DO SO. WITH A THE COURT GOING INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION IS THE SECTION OF THE OPEN MEETING ACT AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER.

IN ACCORD CANS WITH 551.071, 72, 73, 74, 745, 076, 086, 087.

THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL HOLD A EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH ATTORNEYS INCLUDING MATTERS RELATED TO LITIGATION, DELIBERATE REGARDING REAL PROPERTY, PROSPECTIVE GIFTS, PERSONNEL MATTERS INCLUDING TERMINATION, ADVISORY BODIES, SECURITY DEVICE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND OTHER MATTERS THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

UPON COMPLETION OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY IN AN OPEN SPECIAL TAKE SUCH ACTION AS APPROPRIATE ITEMS LISTED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. ITEM AR CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING OF EVER SETTLEMENT FROM ABRAHAM DE LA GARZA AND ROBERT HEIL REGARDING DE LA GARZA EMPLOYMENT CLAIM.

551.071. B, CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING THE POSSIBLY OF A COUNTER JOFR FROM THE COUNTY FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ROBERT HEIL AND RELATED MATTERS.

551.071. DISCUSS AVERAGESO ON THE SAME.

ITEM C, CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OUTSIDE OF FINAL COMPLETION OF ABM PROJECT 85530950 CHANGE ORDER NUMBER, AND PAY APPLICATION 27, 28 AND 29 RELATED MATTERS 551.071.

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE SAME IN REGULAR SESSION.

ITEM IT SHGZ, CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING WOOD.

BOYKIN AND BOLTER REPRESENTING HAGERTY CONSULTING, INC. DATED OCTOBER 10, 2023 AND RELATED MATTERS.

551.017. I HAVE TIM 3-A-9.

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF LICENSE AGREEMENTS BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY AND IN ARE MAR INSURANCE OF MAR HEALTH

[10. Discuss and consider approval of license agreements between Nueces County and San Rafael Clinic related to providing health care services at the Outreach Clinic and Mobile Clinic by San Rafael Clinic, and related matters.]

INSURANCE AND RELATED MATTERS. 551.071.

3-A-10. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY AND SAN RAFAEL CLINIC RELATED TO PROVIDING HEALTH CARE SERVICES AT THE OUTREACH CLINIC IN MOBILE CLINIC BY SAN RAFAEL CLINIC AND RELATED MATTERS. GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071.

ITEM -C-2 IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER NUECES COUNTY COLLECTING PLAT FEES WITHIN THE ETJ AND THE COUNTY PROPERTY WITH RELATED MATTERS. 551.071 AS WELL.

>> CORRECT AND 3-F-2 IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE

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HIRERIGHT AGREEMENT TO DISCUSS PACKGROUND CHECK SERVICES 551-071.

. >> IT IS 2:17 AND WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS TO ADDRESS.

ON ITEM 4-C, I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN THE COMPLETION OF ABM PROJECT 85530950.

PAY APPLICATION 27 AND 28. AND HOLD PAYMENT 29 RELEASE UPON APPROVAL OF THE ENGINEER OF RECORD RON WHEATON AT ATTACHED PUNCH LIST ITEMS ARE ACCEPTED AS COMPLETE.

I AM MAKING THE MOTION. I WILL ACCEPT A SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: SECOND --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.