[A. County Judge calls for the Invocation.]
          [B. Pledge of Allegiance to the United States of America and Texas Flags.]
          [C. County Judge will call roll, note date, time, and location of meeting, and certify a quorum is present.]
          [1.  In recognition of "National 4-H Week", October 1 - 7, 2023.]
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          PARTICIPANTS RANGING IN AGE FROM 8 TO 18, COME FROM DIVERSE ECONOMIC AND SOCIOECONOMIC BACKGROUNDS AS TRULY REPRESENT A CROSS SECTION OF THE STATE AND WHEREAS THE PROGRAM CAN UNDOUBTEDLY HAVE ACHIEVED THE SUCCESS IT HAS TODAY, TIME TALENTS AND ENERGIES AND RESOURCES TO THE YOUTH AND WHEREAS, THROUGHOUT IT'S PROUD HISTORY OF THE 4H PROGRAM HAS DEVELOPED THE POSITIVE ROLE MODELS FOR COUNTLESS TEXAS INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS INSTILL THE VALUES THAT HAVE MADE OUR STRONG STATE NOW THEREFORE BIFLT THAT THE COMMISSIONER COURT OF NUECES COUNTY DOES HEREBY DISEG, AS NATIONAL 4H WEEK IN NUECES COUNTY AND, EXTENSION SERVICES 
          AND THE MANY WHO HAVE MADE THE PROGRAM SUCCESSFUL. >> THANK YOU. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY POAPPED, SAME SIGN. 
          IS THERE ANYONE HERE FROM THE 4H THAT WISHES -- I DON'T SEE ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THAT. OUR ITEM NUMBER 2 IN RECOGNITION OF THE MONTH OF 2023 AS SUICIDE 
          [2.  In recognition of the month of September 2023 as "Suicide Prevention Awareness Month".]
PREVENTION AWARENESS MONTH. AND CAN I GET A MOTION AND SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. IN RECOGNITION OF SEPTEMBER 2023 AS SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH. 
          WHEREAS, SEPTEMBER IS SUICIDE PREVENTION AWARENESS MONTH, A TIME TO, IN ADDITION TO SHIFTING 
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PUBLIC PERCEPTION, WE USE THIS MONTH TO SPREAD HOPE AND VITAL INFORMATION TO PEOPLE AFFECTED BY SUICIDE. THE GOAL IS TO START THE CONVERSATION ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH AND IMPACT OF SUICIDE. TO HELP CONNECT PEOPLE WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES AND SUICIDE PREVENTION SERVICES AVAILABLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS SUICIDE IS THE NUMBER 2 CAUSE FOR 15 TO 24, AND THE 12TH LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH OVERALL IN THE U.S., AND WHEREAS, THE HIGHEST RATES OF SUICIDE IN THE U.S. ARE AMONG AMERICAN YAIRND, ALASKAN NATIVES, FOLLOWED BY NONHISPANIC WHITES, LESBIAN, GAY AND BISEXUAL YOUTH ARE FOUR TIMES MORE LIKELY TO ATTEMPT SUICIDE THAN STRAIGHT YOUTH, TRANSGENDER YOUTH ARE NINE TIMES MORE LIKELY TO ATTEMPT SUICIDE IN THEIR LIFE COMPARED TO THE GENERAL POPULATION AND SUICIDE IS THE MOST COMMON, FOUR TIMES MORE LIKELY TO DIE BY SUICIDE. 46% OF PEOPLE WHO DIE BY SUICIDE HAD A DIAGNOSED MENTAL HEALTH CONDITION. BUT RESEARCH SUGGESTS THAT 90% MAY HAVE EXPERIENCED SYMPTOMS OF AN UNDIAGNOSED MENTAL HEALTH CONDITION. 
          AND WHEREAS, ON AVERAGE, THERE ARE 130 SUICIDES PER DAY IN THE U.S., WITH THE RATE OF SUICIDE BEING HIGHEST IN MIDDLE AGED WHITE MEN. AND WHEREAS, EACH AND EVERY SUICIDE DIRECTLY IMPACTS A MINIMUM OF 100 ADDITIONAL PEOPLE INCLUDING FAMILY, FRIENDS, CO-WORKERS, NEIGHBORS, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND WHEREAS, THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE ON MENTAL ILLNESS GREATER CORPUS CHRISTI ENCOURAGES ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO IDENTIFY THE WARNING SIGNS TO TAKE THE TIME TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF MENTAL HEALTH EDUCATION AND RECOGNIZE THAT TAKING CARE OF OURSELVES AND OTHERS EQUATES TO TAKING CARE OF MENTAL HEALTH AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF NUECES COUNTY DOES HEREBY COMPLAIM OCTOBER SEVENTH 2023, ADVOCATE FOR BETTER MENTAL HEALTH CHARACTER INCLUDING EFFECTIVE AND ACCESSIBLE CRISIS RESPONSE SYSTEM. 
          BECAUSE OF SUICIDE PREVENTION IS EVERYONE'S BUSINESS. >> THANK YOU ABOUT MUCH MAY HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN AND I KNOW WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE HERE THAT WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS. 
          FOR ME SUICIDE IS PERSONAL. ON DECEMBER THINT, 2011 MY NEPHEW TOOK HIS LIFE. 
          AND MY LIFE HAS NEVER BEEN THE SAME SINCE THEN. YOU KNOW, WE GRIEVED THE LIFE THAT HE COULD HAVE HAD AND NOW WE'LL NEVER KNOW. HIS MOTHER IS STILL NOT EVEN ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IT IN PUBLIC. SO I DO IT FOR HER. I'M HER VOICE, I'M THE VOICE OF CHRIS. AND I -- MY BIGGEST MESSAGE IS THAT SUICIDE IS PREVENTIBLE. 
          THERE ARE WARNING SIGNS, MOST OF THE TIME. IF WE KNOW THE WHAT THEY ARE. 
          WE DIDN'T KNOW THE WARNING SIGNS IN 2011. IT WAS BEFORE I EVEN KNEW ABOUT NAMI BUT THANKFULLY I'VE LEARNED, I'VE EDUCATED INSIGHTFUL. 
          AND WE JUST WANT EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW THAT SUICIDE IS PREVENTIBLE. 
          LEARN THE WARNING SIPHONS. DON'T BE AFRAID TO ASK A LOVED ONE IF THEY'RE THINKING OF KILLING THEMSELVES. IT'S NOT EASY TO SAY. IT'S SOMETHING I'VE HAD TO PRACTICE. BUT I KNOW THAT THAT QUESTION AND JUST BEING THERE TO LISTEN CAN REALLY SAVE A LIFE. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MULTIPLE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVE LOST A LOVED ONE TO SUICIDE. RANDY IS WITH US TODAY AND HE DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK SO I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF RANDY TO HONOR COLTON. AND THE COUNTLESS OTHERS. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> HEATHER'S GOING TO SAY A 
          LITTLE BIT REAL QUICK. >> SURE. >> HI, MY NAME IS HEATHER LOW, I'M THE INCOMING AFFILIATE LEADER FOR NAMI. I'VE BEEN SUICIDAL MORE TIMES THAN I CAN COUNT. I HAVE BEEN HOSPITALIZED VOLUNTARILY AND INVOLUNTARILY FOR SIX WEEKS. IT'S NOT FUN. BUT THE BEST THING THAT YOU CAN 
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DO, ABSOLUTELY WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS SHED LIGHT ON THE TOPIC. DO NOT KEEP IT IN THE DARK. 
          TALK TO YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS, YOUR LOVED ONES AND LET IT BE OKAY THAT THEY'RE SHARING THEIR FEELINGS WITH YOU. LET IT BE OKAY THAT THEY'RE SAYING I HAVE SUICIDAL THOUGHTS. 
          BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT'S GOING TO STAY IN THE DARK. IT'S GOING TO STAY STIGMATIZE ED AND TABOO AND WE CAN'T HAVE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE TRAGEDY HAPPENS. 
          THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE DIE. ONE OF THE ONLY REASONS WHY I'M HERE IS BECAUSE I HAD SUCH A GOOD SUPPORT SYSTEM. AND I WAS ALLOWED TO SHARE MY FEELINGS. 
          SO PLEASE. GOOGLE THE WARNING SIGNS. GOOGLE THE RISK FACTORS. 
          FIND OUT IF YOUR LOVED ONES ARE DOING OKAY AND REALLY LISTEN TO THE ANSWER. 
          BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU HEATHER. WE HAVE THIS IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD, IF YOU WANT A PHOTO WE'RE HAPPY TO SPREAD THE WORD AND THE MORE PEOPLE THAT HEAR ABOUT THIS, WE BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT AND -- IN THE NEXT ITEM BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH PUBLIC COMMENT I'D LIKE TO ASK IF ANY MEMBERS, ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY ITEMS THE THEY WISH TO TABLE? AHEAD OF TIME IF YOU KNOW OF ANYTHING? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. 
          [2.  Nueces County Animal Services Advisory Committee]
          >> I WANTED TO -- I'M SORRY. I WANTED TO POTENTIALLY TABLE G-2 NUECES COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE, ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE AN IDEA I WANT TO PURSUE IF THAT'S OKAY, I NEED TO GET WITH JENNY ABOUT IT. I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE IT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. 
          I'D ASK FOR THE INDULGENCE OF THE COURT ON THAT. >> G-2? 
          >> THE ANIMALS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE. >> YES ON THE BEGINNING. 
          I WAS LOOKING AT 3G. I WAS LIKE -- >> THAT'S OKAY. 
          I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE TO THE NEXT MEETING, I'LL SEND JENNY AN E-MAIL REGARDING WHAT CAN BE DONE BEFORE I PROPOSE IT, JENNY TELLS ME SHE'S NOT SURE. I DON'T MEAN TO PUT HER ON THE 
          SPOT. >> YES, I WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOMETHING ABOUT THAT TOO AFTER TODAY. IF YOU COULD SECTOR ME BECAUSE THERE IS SOME STUFF THAT WAS 
          BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION TOO. >> IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT BEFORE I TABLE. 
          I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HOLD OFF ON THE APPOINTMENTS BUT IF YOU NEED TO DISCUSS I CAN HOLD OFF ON MY 
          TABLE. >> ON THE APPOINTMENTS THE ONLY THING I WAS GOING TO SAY THERE IS NOT MUCH LEEWAY, THERE IS STATUTORY APPOINTMENTS AND WE ONLY HAD ONE PERSON APPLY FOR 
          SECRET RINNARY POSITION. >> THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO TALK TO HER ABOUT, IT'S A POTENTIAL EXPANSION, I'VE JUST GOT AN IDEA ON IT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS OKAY TO DO IT. 
          THERE IS A REALLY QUALIFIED APPLICANT, WE'VE HAD GREAT INTEREST IN THE BOARD LATELY AND I WANT TO KEEP THAT GOING IF WE CAN. I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, 
          PART OF THE REASON I'M TABLING. >> IS IT A VETERINARIAN? >> NO, A NONSPECIFIC SPOT. 
          I HAVE SOME IDEAS. IF I COULD HAVE -- >> WE WOULD HAVE TO VOTE TO 
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          EXPAND THE BOARD IS WHAT YOU POTENTIALLY ARE -- >> THAT'S RIGHT. 
          >> BECAUSE THERE IS SEVEN TO 11 MAX. >> I'VE GOT AN IDEA, I NEED TO 
          ASK HER ABOUT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING. 
          CAN I GET A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, AYE, ANY OPPOSED SAME SIGN THAT MOTION PASSES THANK YOU. 
          >> AND I JUST WANT TO SAY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET A BUNCH OF E-MAILS FROM ANIMAL SERVICES. NOTHING SINISTER GOING ON. I JUST WANT TO ASK JENNY IF I CAN PROPOSE WHAT I PROPOSE, THOSE BOARD MEMBERS ALL HOLD OVER AND WE'LL DID IT IN THE 
          NEXT MEETING. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER TABLED ITEMS FROM ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER? ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? IS THERE ANYONE THAT DIDN'T SIGN UP WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT? 
          >> EXCUSE ME JUDGE. I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON 8. >> FOR TABLING? 
          >> WELL, I JUST WANT TO -- R, YES. >> WE'LL BE THERE, IF YOU WANT TO TABLE SOMETHING MANY WE'LL PULL THOSE IN CONSENT. IS THAT CONSENT AGENDA H? 
          >> YES. >> FOR MORE DISCUSSION, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE WARRANTING TO DO THAT? I'LL DO THAT NEXT, IN FACT WE'RE ALMOST THERE. 
          [1.  Nueces County Airport Advisory Board]
SO THERE'S NO ONE THAT SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. SO MOVING ON WE'RE AT G-1. 
          THE NUECES COUNTY AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD. AND I AM ASKING FOR A MOTION TO REOPEN FOR APPLICATIONS BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE ANY LETTERS OF INTENT. 
          AND ISLY CLARIFIED AND WITH TARA THE 74 POSITIONS THAT ARE OPEN ON THIS AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD ARE ONE FROM EACH YOUR PRECINCTS. SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO REACH OUT TO -- THERE'S THREE THAT ARE AT LARGE AND ONE THERE EACH OF YOUR PRECINCTS AND ONE OPEN FROM EACH 
          OF YOUR FREE SINGTS. GO AHEAD. >> JUDGE ACTUALLY MY APPLICANT DID SIGN A THOAT IN ASKING TO BE RECONSIDERED AND I DIDN'T EVEN ASK BECAUSE SHE'S ON ANOTHER BOARD IF IT'S OKAY. BUT I KNOW SHE'S SENT IN SOMETHING TO BE RECONSIDERED. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WENT. >> IT DIDN'T GO TO TARA AND IT DIDN'T GO TO ME. 
          >> THERE W CORRESPONDENCE FROM HER. >> DID SHE SEND IT JUST TO YOU? 
          >> WE NEED TO SEARCH. REQUEST WE HOLD AND I'LL SEE IF I CAN FIND THAT CORRESPONDENCE. 
          >> I'D LIKE TO DO THE SAME FOR PRECINCT 1. >> YES, WE'LL BRING THAT BACK AND WE WILL HAVE TO REOPEN IF WE DO THAT. HE THINKS HE HAS ONE BUT THAT IS ANOTHER SIMILAR ISSUE ON SOMETHING ELSEWHERE THEY DIDN'T RESPOND TO THE E-MAIL OR THE LETTER THAT WHEREAS SENT OUT. AND SO WE COULDN'T ACCEPT ANYTHING THAT WAS SENT TO THE CHAIR OF THAT BUT THE CHAIR DOES NOT APPOINT ANYONE ON THE OTHER BOARD. 
          SO 80. ITEM NUMBER 3, THE NUECES COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD OF MANAGERS. WE HAVE TWO LETTERS OF INTENT AND NO NEW APPLICATIONS. 
          THE TWO WERE THE INCUMBENTS. >> DISTRICT NUMBER 4. >> NUMBER 3. 
          >> OH, I THOUGHT HE -- I'M SORRY, I SKIPPED THAT ONE. NUECES COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES 
          [3.  Nueces County Emergency Service District No. 4]
DISTRICT NUMBER 4. THIS IS FILLING A VACANCY AND WE HAVE ONE APPLICATION. 
          AND I WOULD NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT HIS APPLICATION. >> SO MOVED. 
          >> JESUS GUERRA. WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE APPLICATION FROM MR. GUERRA. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION PASSES. 
          [4.  Nueces County Hospital District Board of Managers]
NOW MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 4, NUECES COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD OF MANAGERS. 
          TWO LETTERS OF INTENT FROM INCUMBENTS AND NO NEW APPLICATIONS. 
          >> MOTION TO REAPPOINT. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, AYE ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. AND THEN ON ITEM NUMBER 5, THE CORPUS CHRISTI REGIONAL 
          [5.  Corpus Christi Regional Transportation Authority Board of Directors]
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TRANSPORTATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS. WE HAVE THREE LETTERS OF INTENT. 
          AND ONE ADDITIONAL LETTER. AND I THINK -- IS THIS ONE THAT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY YOU WERE 
          WANTING TO CHANGE THE PROCESS? OR DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR -- >> I DO LIKE TO NOMINATE 
          INDIVIDUALLY, WE CAN. >> WE CAN DO THAT. >> THAT IS THE INTENT OF MY PROCESS TO BE DISCUSSED LATER SO IF YOU WANT TO VOTE HIM UP OUR DOWN HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT. 
          BUT THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO ADDRESS LATER IN THE POLICY BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THE POLICY IN PLACE. SO I'M CERTAINLY FINE WITH JUST PUTTING PEOPLE UP INDIVIDUALLY 
          AND HAVING PEOPLE VOTE ON THEM. >> ARE WE GOING TO NOMINATE? >> INDIVIDUALLY SO IF Y'ALL WANT 
          TO MAKE -- >> IF IT'S NOT OUR POLICY JENNY, CAN WE NOMINATE LIKE THAT, OR 
          NOMINATE BY VOTE UP OR DOWN -- >> DOES YOUR POLICY -- >> I WAS ASSUMING MOTION AND 
          SECOND AND A VOTE. >> BY MOTION INDIVIDUALLY, SOMEBODY SAID INDIVIDUALLY, THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAVE DO WE DO IT INDIVIDUALLY. BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER DONE IT THAT 
          WAY. >> WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A POLICY, FOUR APPLICANTS, THREE 
          INCUMBENTS, ONE ADDITIONAL, SO WE'RE KIND OF -- >> I THINK IT'S WITHIN YOUR 
          DISCRETION AS A COURT. >> HOWEVER MANY NAMES OR IS THERE A PROCESS OR HOW DO WE DO 
          THAT? >> I MEAN IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO ASK LATER ON? 
          >> FOR ME TO SAY, I CAN MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ELECT ANNA JIMENEZ FOR THE BOARD OF -- 
          >> ARE YOU SAYING YOU WANT TO DO THEM ONE AT A TIME? >> YES ONE INDIVIDUALLY. 
          >> SECOND. >> I WAS GOING TO GET CLARIFICATION OR THE WHAT 
          COMMISSIONER CHESNEY WAS SAYING FOR LATER. >> AND BASICALLY THE PROCESS THAT I'M PROPOSING AND HOPE TO GET SOME INPUT FROM ON THE COURT, IT'S A LITTLE LATE TO DO IT FOR THIS ONE BECAUSE IT HAS AN INTERVIEW PROCESS IN IT FOR OUR MAJOR BOARDS GOING FORWARD AND THAT WAS CIRCULATED, EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THAT E-MAIL IN HARD COPY. 
          >> AND THAT WAS INCLUDED? >> WE'RE SO FAR DOWN THE PATH ON THIS ONE IT'S HARD TO PICK IT UP ON THIS ONE. BUT PART OF THAT INDICATES EVERY COMMISSIONER PUTTING FORWARD PEOPLE AND WE LOOK AT THE APPLICATIONS, WE PICK OUR TOP 2, IF SOMEONE GETS TWO VOTES, THAT'S FOR A DISCUSSION FOR LATER, WE DON'T HAVE THAT POLICY IN PLACE BUT I'M OPEN. 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FOR ANNA JIMENEZ, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE, OR 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE, ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. >> JUDGE I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE 
          LYNN ALLISON FOR REAPPOINTMENT OR MOVE FOR REAPPOINTMENT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION FOR LYNN 
          ALLISON FOR REAPPOINTMENT. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. >> JUDGE -- DO WE HAVE A 
          MOTION -- >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. 
          THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. >> NAY, NAY. THERE DID YOU VOTE JOHN, 3-2 THE 
          MOTION PASSES. I'LL ACCEPT ANOTHER MOTION. >> I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE AARON 
          MUNOS. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO NOMINATE AARON MUNOS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AND WE HAD THREE POSITIONS OPEN AND THOSE ARE OUR THREE. SO WE APPRECIATE THE NUTRITION FROM MS. DOMINGUEZ AND WE HOPE THAT YOU'LL CONTINUE AND DO THIS AGAIN. 
          THANK YOU. YOU'RE NOT READY TO GO BACK? ARE YOU GOING TO TELL ME YOU'RE 
          READY TO GO BACK TO THE OTHER -- >> WELL, THIS IS WHERE I MATE BE QUOOUSK TO MS. PAXTON. 
          THERE WAS SOME CORRESPONDENCE WHERE I RESPONDED AND ASKED SOMETHING ABOUT AN APPOINTMENT AND THEN THE RESPONSE FROM TARA THAT'S CORRECT, AND MS. PAXTON WHICH IS TO ONLY SERVE ON THE BOARD, SHE CAN ADDITION REGARD, SHE SENT ME AN E-MAIL THAT SHE STILL WANTED TO SERVE. 
          I GUESS SHE THOUGHT THAT WAS GOOD ENOUGH, SHE SENT THE RESPONDS TO ME SAYING SHE WANTED TO STAY ON. THEY ALL HOLD OVER, SO IF YOU WANT TO -- 
          >> WE'RE GOING TO BRING THEM ALL BACK SO WE DON'T HAVE FOR THE OTHERS, WE'LL JUST BRING THAT BACK TO I GUESS REOPEN. SO HOW LONG WOULD WE OPEN IT FOR? 
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          >> THROUGH OCTOBER 18. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE AIRPORT, RIGHT? 
          >> YES, OPEN IT UP -- >> SEPTEMBER 27 THROUGH OCTOBER 18TH. 
          >> IS THE NEXT MEETING WE WOULD BRING IT BACK TO? >> OCTOBER 18TH. 
          SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO BRING THAT BACK TO THE 18TH. 
          I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. YES. >> AFTER WE REOPEN FOR 
          APPLICATIONS AGAIN. DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          [2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]
          >> ANY OWNED, SAME SIGN, MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. 
          ARE THERE ANY ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? COMMISSIONER WISHES TO PULL FOR 
          MORE DISCUSSION. >> I DO. >> YES, SIR. 
          D. F AND O. >> DF AND O. 
          >> D F AND O. JUDGE I'VE GOT ONE. A. 
          JUST SOME SMALL WORDING ADDITIONS TO THE MINUTESSEN. >> OKAY. 
          ANY OTHERS? COMMISSIONERS AND ANY OTHERS? >> DID SOMEBODY SAY THEY'RE 
          PULLING G? >> NO. WE HAVE A D F AND O. 
          DO YOU WANT G PULLED? >> YES I DO. >> UH-HUH. 
          ALL RIGHT. ARE WE GOOD TO GO? ANYBODY ELSE? 
          >> JUDGE I AM GOING TO, I'M SORRY. JUST HOLD ON, LET ME FIND IT, I APOLOGIZE. I WANTED TO PULL THE ONE FOR BOB HALL BUT -- THERE YOU GO, R. 
          >> DID YOU WANT TO PULL? >> JUST FOR BRIEF STATEMENT, YES, MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION TO PASS WITH THE EXCEPTIONS OF A, D, F, O, G AND R. FOR DISCUSSION. 
          >> SO MOVED, SORRY. >> THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION. 
          >> LITTLE SLOW THIS MORNING JUDGE. >> DO I HAVE A SECOND? 
          >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          [A.  Accept Commissioners Court Minutes for September 13, 2023 and September 19, 2023.]
AYE, ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. AND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY I BELIEVE YOU HAD A FIRST. 
          >> YES, MA'AM THANK YOU. AND I SENT TARA AN E-MAIL LAST NIGHT BUT I WANTED TO ON PAGE 8 OF THE SEPTEMBER 13 MINUTES, LORENZO, WHERE IT SAYS MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, I JUST WANTED TO ENTER WORDING THAT SAID MOTION FOR THE NEW TAX RATE. SO IF I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THAT SO THAT IT'S SUPER-CLEAR THAT THAT WAS A MOTION TO NOT RAISE TAXES I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. 
          IF I CAN GET A SECOND FOR THAT AMENDMENT. >> I'LL SECOND THAT. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES. >> THEN JUDGE ONE MORE ON THAT 
          ONE. I'M SORRY. >> GO AHEAD. 
          >> I SHOULD HAVE DONE IT THE SAME TIME. NUMBER 6 WHERE -- 
          >> PAGE 6? >> I'M SORRY, PAGE 9 NUMBER 6, WHERE IT SAYS MOTION BY CHESNEY, SECONDED BY HERNANDEZ, REGARDS TO THE MILLION DOLLARS. THAT NEEDS TO BE FROM THE 1115 WAIVER FUNDS SO THAT'S CLEAR. SO AGAIN I WOULD MOVE THAT WE AMEND THEM TO THE LANGUAGE, FROM 
          THE 1115 WAIVER FUNDS. >> YES, GOOD CATCH. I WILL MAKE THE SECOND ON THAT MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. 
          >> AND THEN NOW JUDGE I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO PASS, ACCEPT THE COMMISSIONERS COURTS MINUTES 
          AS AMENDED. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, ANY 
          [D.  Authorize payment of bills - Special Motions List dated September 27, 2023.]
OPPOSED, SAME SIGN, MOTION PASSES. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, SPECIAL 
          MOTIONS LIST. >> I JUST WANT TO PULL THAT ONE OUT BECAUSE I WANTED TO DO SOME DECLARATION BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO ADVISE THAT THE JOB HADN'T BEEN COMPLETED 100%. 
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          AND IT WAS BEING PAID. >> WHICH INVOICES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THERE? 
          >> NUMBER 12 AND 13. >> THE STODDARD INVOICES THESE WERE, I CALLED ABOUT THESE AS WELL. AND THESE WERE PUT ON THE DESK AND MISPLACED I THINK THEY WERE 
          PULLED BECAUSE THEY HAD BEEN LEFT THERE. >> THE THING IS JUDGE IT WAS 100% DONE. THERE ARE CHANGE ORDERS THAT WERE ADDED TO THAT. 
          >> GOOD ON THESE ADA COURTHOUSE IMPROVEMENTS, YES. >> BUT THERE IS RETAINAGE AND THE CHANGE ORDERS OF THE REQUEST OF THE COUNTY. BUT THE MONEYS WERE THERE TO PAY OR THE THAT. BUT ORIGINALLY, THE -- WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE WAS DONE OTHER THAN THE CHANGE ORDERS THAT BROUGHT IT UP TO A LITTLE HIGHER. 
          SO THERE'S REALLY NOT -- AND I MEANT THIS MORNING JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS CORRECT. 
          SO OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYTHING IS OKAY WITH THOSE -- >> I CHECKED WITH PUBLIC WORKS AS WELL. THOSE WERE TWO THAT I HAD CALLED ABOUT BEFORE THE MEETING. 
          I PULLED THOSE OUT. THEY SAID THEY WERE BOTH GOOD TO GO. 
          >> SO I THINK WE'RE OKAY. I THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION I HAD ABOUT. 
          >> I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT OUT, BECAUSE I DID TOO. >> I JUST WANTED TO JUST -- 
          BEFORE IT GOES FURTHER AND WE KNOW WE VOTED ON SOMETHING. >> JUST TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE 
          INFORMATION ON THAT ITEM, YES. >> THERE'S STILL MORE PENDING. THERE ARE A COUPLE MORE CHANGE ORDERS THAT ARE PENDING THE REQUEST OF THE COUNTY SO WE NEED TO FINISH THOSE AND WE SHOULD BE 
          THROUGH, RIGHT? >> RIGHT. >> NOTHING TO DO WITH THE 
          ORIGINAL CONTRACT. >> OKAY. >> SO OTHER THAN THAT I MOVE TO 
          TAKE NO ACTION. >> SO ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION TO PASS D THEN AS-IS? 
          >> YES. MOVE TO PASS. >> I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE, ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES. 
          [F.  Authorize payment of bills - Special Motions List - Hagerty dated September 27, 2023.]
          MOVING ON TO ITEM F. >> F, I ALSO PULLED F. BECAUSE I MET WITH ANNA A COUPLE OF TIMES AND I STILL HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON THE ERAP ON THE INVOICES, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE SO SIMPLE, I GUESS IT WOULD BE, I DON'T KNOW. TO PUT EVERYTHING THAT'S INVOLVED WITH INVOICE 7912 TOGETHER, INVOICE 8059 TOGETHER AND INVOICE 8052 TOGETHER, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A STACK OF I DON'T KNOW WHICH BELONGS TO WHAT INVOICE. 
          BUT IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY HAGERTY. I DON'T SEE A SIGNATURE WHERE WE APPROVED IT. SO I ASKED ANNA TO PULL WHATEVER SHE CAN PULL. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PAYING BUT PAYING FOR SOMETHING THAT WE GOT. 
          I WANT -- ANNA DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER OR THE US NOW? BECAUSE IF NOT I'M GOING TO 
          TABLE IT. >> YESTERDAY YOU TALKED AND SAID YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO OPEN THOSE 
          THAT I.T. SENT YOU. WERE YOU ABLE TO OPEN UP? >> WE SHOWED THE SCREEN SHOTS. 
          >> NEITHER ONE OF US COULD SEE THE INSIDE. WE COULDN'T OPEN IT UP TO -- 
          >> THEY HAVE APPLICANT, THEIR SOCIAL, THAT'S WHY I GAVE SNIPPET OF IT, NOT SHOWING 
          ACCOUNT NUMBERS OR SHOWING ADDRESSES OR THEIR NAMES. >> IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN GROUP THOSE INVOICES, WHATEVER GOES WITH THIS INVOICE TO GROUP IT TOGETHER? 
          >> IN THE BACKUP, KIND OF STABLE IT OR -- >> SECTION IT -- STAPLE IT? 
          >> I DON'T KNOW WHEN ALL THIS HERE, I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BOYS ARE TALKING ABOUT. 
          >> I SUBMITTED THEM TO THE AUDITORS AS AN INVOICE WITH ALL THE BACKUP. 
          >> AUDITS SEEM TO BE ACCEPTING A LOT OF STUFF THAT'S GOING THROUGH BUT, YOU KNOW -- 
          >> AS INDIVIDUAL INVOICES I MEAN THE COVER SHEET AND THEN THE INVOICE ITSELF WITH ALL THE BACKUP AND THEN THE OTHER INVOICE, THERE WAS THREE INVOICES LISTED ON THAT LETTER. 
          >> HOW DO WE DO -- HOW DO WE IDENTIFY WHAT'S IN THE INVOICE 7912? 
          OR 8059? >> IN THE ENGINEER PACKETS YOU RECEIVED YOU SHOULD EACH HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL INVOICE THAT I WAS REFERRING TO, HER LETTER INCLUDING THE INVOICE WE HAVE, TO SUMMARIZE INVOICE 4 WHAT THE HOURS WERE WORKED AND WHAT THE BALANCES WERE THERE. 
          [00:35:02]
SO THERE ARE IN YOUR PACKET INVOICES FOR EACH OF THE BILLS SHOWING. 
          >> THESE ARE THE INVOICES YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT? >> YES. 
          >> I'M LOOKING AT THEM TOO BUT IT DOESN'T TELL ME WHAT INVOICE IT IS. 
          IT DOESN'T TELL ME -- >> INVOICE MEMBER 7912 IS THE VERY FIRST ONE YOU HAVE. 
          IT HAS A NUMBER ON IT. >> IT ONLY TELLS ME IT'S 3.5 HOURS. 
          BUT DOESN'T GIVE ME THE TOTAL. >> IT LOOKS LIKE THIS 7912 HAS ALL OF THESE INVOICES WITH IT 
          UNTIL YOU GET TO THE NEXT COVER SHEET, HAGERTY. >> THIS IS TO ME VERY CONFUSING, AND I KNOW THAT I.T. WAS DOWNLOADING SOME OF THIS ANDIVITY IS NOT PART OF GRANTS. 
          >> I.T. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE INVOICES. >> THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE 
          DOWNLOADING YOU SAID. >> NO, THE DATA, ALL THE DATA, THAT HAGERTY HAS ONE -- WE HAVE OUR OWN SOLUTION, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN QUICK BASE SOFTWARE, THEY WERE ENTERING THEIR MANAGEMENT THROUGH THAT. THE ONLY THING WE HAVE IN OUR SYSTEM WOULD BE THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WE DOWN LOADED OURSELVES TO SUBMIT FOR PAYMENT. 
          OF CLIENTS. THIS IS THE INVOICES FOR HAGERTY CONSULTING THAT DID THE CASE 
          MANAGEMENT AT THAT TIME, JANUARY THROUGH MARCH OF 2022. >> NOW IF I LOOK AT THE INVOICE HERE, TRYING TO FIND THE NUMBER OF THE INVOICE, PO, THIS ONE HERE I GUESS IT'S INVOICE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT NUMBER THAT IS. BUT IT ALSO HAS ABOUT FIVE PEOPLE'S NAMES ON THERE. 
          ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE GETTING PAID FROM THIS INVOICE FOR WORK? >> YES, SIR. 
          >> WHAT DO THEY DO, FIVE PEOPLE WORKING ON ONE INVOICE? >> IT'S STAGES. 
          YOU'RE TRYING TO GET INFORMATION WITH CLIENTS. THE CLIENTS WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT DOCUMENTATION BACK AND FORTH. SO SOME PEOPLE DO THE CASE MANAGEMENT. 
          AND THEN SOME PEOPLE DID THE AUTHORIZATION. SO I MEAN IT'S A -- 
          >> AN THEN THEIR OWN PEOPLE APPROVE ALL THAT. SO BUT YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE ARE 
          CHARGING US 220 AN HOUR, 170 AN HOUR, 180 AN HOUR. >> THAT'S PART OF THE CONTRACT 
          THAT WAS WITH THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE RATES. >> AND THESE ARE THOSE INVOICES WE'VE HAD TROUBLE WITH FOR A LONG TIME THAT ARE 2022 INVOICES? 
          >> THEY WERE NOT SUBMITTED ON A TIMELY BASIS AND DISCOVERED AFTERWARDS. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE WERE TRYING TO SUBMIT THEM. >> BY HAGERTY? 
          >> NO HAGERTY SUBMITTED THEM BUT THE PREVIOUS DEPARTMENT DID NOT SUBMIT THEM FOR PAYMENT TO THE 
          AUDITOR'S OFFICE. >> WE HAD THEM, THEY RETURNED THEM TO US. 
          SO THAT'S ON US. >> DID THEY SAY WHAT WAS THE DELAY, DELAYED THE PAPERWORK, 
          PAYMENT? >> IT WAS NOT SUBMITTED FOR PAYMENT BY THE DEPARTMENT. 
          NUECES COUNTY. >> NOBODY'S OVERSEEING THAT OR -- 
          >> IT WAS PREVIOUS MANAGEMENT SIR. >> ALL RIGHT THANK YOU. 
          I DON'T KNOW JUDGE Y'ALL WANT TO PAY IT? >> WITH YOUR MOTION, IT'S 
          YOUR -- YOU STILL HAVE THE FLOOR ON IT. >> I WROTE RATHER DALE IS THERE 
          ANY WAY WE CAN GROUP THIS BY INVOICE? >> WHAT'S THE QUESTION? 
          >> CAN WE GROUP THIS ONE BY INVOICE? >> THEY SUBMIT EACH ONE INDIVIDUAL BY INVOICE. WE CAN PAY THEM WITH ONE CHECK BUT THEORETICALLY THEY PROVIDED THE THREE INVOICES. WE ARE PAYING THE THREE INVOICES BECAUSE EACH SHOWING A SEPARATE 
          DATE THAT THE INVOICE WAS SUBMITTED. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT? 
          >> I BELIEVE SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS ARE LOOKING AAT THESE INVOICES TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO OVERLAP. I BELIEVE -- I DON'T SEE LULU HERE. 
          SHE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ERA PRESIDENTIAL. >> I KNOW AT SOME POINT SHE HAD BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OVERLAP IN BILLING. YOU KNOW. 
          BUT I BELIEVE THIS IS NOT INVOLVED IN THAT INQUIRY FOR SURE. 
          >> SO I'M SORRY YOU'RE SAYING THEY ARE READY TO GO ANNA? >> YES, THEY ARE READY. 
          FIRST INVOICE IS THERE JANUARY 1ST, 2022 THROUGH JANUARY 28, 2022. 
          AND THEN THE SEX ONE IS JANUARY 29 THROUGH FEBRUARY 25TH OF 2022. 
          AND THE THIRD ONE IS 20262022, THROUGH MARCH 25TH, 2022. SO THERE IS NO OVERLAP IN DAYS. 
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          IS SERVICES WERE DONE. WE DID PAY A LOT OF -- >> YOU SAID THE SERVICES WERE 
          DONE. SO HOW DO YOU KNOW? >> BECAUSE WE RECEIVED THE INFORMATION, AUTHORIZATION OF CLIENTS THE PUBLIC TO GET PAYMENTS AND WE SUBMITTED A LOT OF PAYMENTS THROUGH OUR SOFTWARE. SO SOAK HAD TO DO THE CASE 
          MANAGEMENT. WE DID THE PAYMENTS. >> THAT CAME THROUGH SOCIAL 
          SERVICES? >> NO. >> NO. 
          >> HAGERTY HAD -- >> THEIR OWN PEOPLE. >> SOCIAL SERVICES DIDN'T COME 
          INTO PLAY UNTIL NOVEMBER, DECEMBER OF 2022. >> WHEN WE CANCELLED HAGERTY. 
          >> AND WE STOPPED THE SERVICES. AND AT THAT TIME, THEY DID BASICALLY WHAT ALREADY WAS IN THEIR SOFTWARE. AND THERE WAS I THINK 1100 SOME PEOPLE AND WE PAID 7. 
          THEY AUTHORIZED FOR SEVEN NEW CLIENTS AND WE HAVEN'T PAID ANYTHING SINCE, THAT WAS JANUARY 
          OF 2023. >> JUDGE I JUST DON'T LIKE TO PAY SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW WHAT 
          I'M PAYING FOR. >> THESE ARE STILL SERVICES, THIS IS WHY I'M TRYING TO PUSH THEM TO SUBMIT THEM TO TREASURY AND FINISH IT OFF. THAT'S THE ONLY ONE LACKING 
          THERE THIS -- >> ARE THESE THE LAST ONES? >> THE VERY LAST ONE. 
          FOR ERAP. >> WE STILL HAVE ONE FOR THE ARPA. 
          >> THAT'S TRUE YES. >> WE HAVE SEVERAL FOR ARPA BUT ERAP NIECE ARE THE FINAL THREE 
          INVOICES. >> AFTER APRIL WE PAID OTHER INVOICES AND UNTIL WE KIND OF STOPPED AND THAT'S WHEN THEY SAID Y'ALL STILL HAVEN'T PAID OR THE THESE. 
          THAT'S WHEN WE DID THE RESEARCH AND WE HAVE NOT PAID THESE. >> WE'RE REALLY JUST LOCKED IN. 
          >> SHE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ERAP SO -- >> YOU DID WANT TO SAY, DID YOU HAVE SOME INFORMATION LULU, YOU LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE COMING FORWARD IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING 
          YOU NEED TO SAY, YES. >> EXCUSE MY VOICE AGAIN, THERE IS HOPE AS FAR AS ERAP IS CONCERNED AND ARPA AND WE'VE TRIED WILLIAM FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO 
          MAKE SURE THAT WORK NOT OVERLAPPING. >> NOT OVERLAPPING THEY HAD 
          LOOKED AT IT AS WELL. >> SO WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID -- >> YOU'RE SAYING THESE ARE GOOD TO GO AS WELL? NO OVERLAP WITH YOU? THAT'S ALL YOU KNOW. 
          >> YES. >> WELL THERE IS SOME CHARGES ON HERE FOR THE ERAP. 
          >> THERE IS SOME OVERLAP WITH ARPA. >> THERE IS SOME OVERLAP. 
          >> ON THESE THREE INVOICES? I'M TALKING ABOUT THESE THREE INVOICES ONLY, ONLY THESE THREE INVOICES. THE REST WE'LL DEL WITH WHEN THEY COME UP. 
          NO OVERLAP FOR ARPA BOTH OF YOU ARE SAYING YES GOING FORWARD JENNY IS SAYING YES, YES. 
          >> OKAY WE'LL DISCUSS THIS WITH HAGHAGERTY IF THERE IS ANY OVERP ON THE ARPA END. 
          >> IF ONE OF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION GO AHEAD. I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE ONE. 
          >> WE OWE IT, IT'S 2022. >> THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE ERAP IS BUILD, IS THAT WHAT 
          YOU'RE SAYING LULU? >> NO. THESE ARE THE LAST THREE 
          INVOICES. >> THEY'RE THE LAST THAT WE'VE RECEIVED BUT THEY'RE THE FIRST 
          IN TIME BILLING FOR HAGERTY'S ERAP SERVICES. >> THERE ARE SOME CHARGES FOR ERAP AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JANUARY OF 2022 UP TO FEBRUARY OF 23. 
          >> OKAY AND YOUR CONCERN IS THAT THE SAME SERVICES ARE BUILD IN SUBSEQUENT BILLS? 
          >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> SO IF YOU PAY THIS ONE, THEN WE'LL JUST ADDRESS IT IN 
          SUBSEQUENT BILLS. IS -- >> WE WON'T PAY THE FUTURE ONES 
          THAT -- >> IF IT'S DUPLICATE BILLING FOR THE SAME WORK. 
          >> THAT'S MY CONCERN, DUPLICATE BILLING. >> SO WHICH OF THE ONES THAT ARE ONE THAT WE COULD PASS THAT WE ARE NOT WORRIED ABOUT DUPLICATE BILLING? 
          >> SHE DOESN'T KNOW BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BUILD YET. >> ARE YOU SUGGESTING -- 
          >> HOW DO WE IDENTIFY WHAT'S WHAT? >> SHE'S WORRYING ABOUT 
          DUPLICATE. >> IF SHE'S GOOD TO GO THEN WOULD I HAVE TO DISPUTE THE 
          CHARGES WITH HAGERTY AS FAR AS ANY ERAP BILLING IN HERE. >> I'M NOT FOLLOWING THAT ONE. 
          >> THERE'S THREE OTHER INVOICES, OR FOR ARPA, THAT HAS ERAP CHARGES THAT HAS SCOPE HAS BEEN CHANGED THAT HAS ANOTHER IFB -- WHAT IS IT, IBF, WHATEVER IT IS, CHARGES THAT WERE NEVER APPROVED 
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THAT WE'VE BEEN CARNLGD WITH. SO THOSE ARE THE ONES FOR THE ARPA. 
          RIGHT? BUT THERE'S ERAP ALSO INVOLVED FOR WHATEVER REASON IN ARPA. 
          >> THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON PARCELING THOSE OUT. BUT IF -- WE JUST NEED TO PAY OR THE THE BILLING ONE TIME FOR THE WORK ONE TIME. AND SO THAT'S -- IF YOU PAY THESE BILLS, THEN SHE'LL DISPUTE IS WHAT SHE'S SAYING ON THE OTHER BILLS. 
          >> YOU'RE FINE WITH US PAYING THESE BECAUSE THEY WILL STOP THE DUPLICATION IN THE NEXT. 
          >> RIGHT. >> GOOD LUCK. >> THAT'S UP TO YOU TWO AND WORKING TOGETHER. I DIDN'T REALIZE THEY WERE THAT MUCH COMBINED BUT I GUESS THAT WILL WORK A WHOLE LOT BETTER AFTER TODAY WHEN YOU'RE UPSTAIRS TOGETHER TOO. 
          SO DEFINITELY IN THE FUTURE WE WOULD LIKE YOU BOTH TO BE CLEARING THESE BEFORE WE VOTE TO PAY OR THE THESE. YOU'RE SAYING YES SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO PAY THESE. 
          BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING LULU WILL WATCH AND WE WOULDN'T BE DUPLICATE BUILD. 
          SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO I PA THESE AND Y'ALL WATCH FOR THIS AND STOP THE DUPLICATION IN THE 
          FUTURE BILLING. >> YES. >> WOULD BE MY MOTION AND THE 
          NEXT TIME THEY COME FORWARD. WE BOTH ARE IN AGREEMENT. >> I JUST WANT TO ASK:  WILL YOU BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHICH ONES WE'RE PAYING NOW AND WHICH ONES WE MIGHT BE BUILD LATER? 
          >> YES. BASICALLY, THESE ARE ERAP SERVICES PAID BY ERAP FUNDING. 
          IF THEY ARE CHARGING ERAP SERVICES IN THE ARPA THEN YES I WOULD CANNOT PAY THAT. 
          BUT THESE WERE DONE FOR ERAP, RENTAL ASSISTANCE. >> HAVE Y'ALL BEEN KEEPING AN 
          EYE OUT FOR THIS IN THE PAST? >> WE PAID AFTER APRIL. I MEAN WE PAID INVOICES FOR THEIR SERVICES AFTERWARDS BUT THEN IT STOPPED. SO THESE WERE PRIOR. 
          THESE WERE JANUARY THROUGH MARCH OF 2022. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          >> SO I HAVE A MOTION. IF I COULD GET A SECOND OR NOT? THAT'S FINE TOO. 
          >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO PAY THESE AND TO STOP THE FUTURE ONES THAT ARE DUPLICATES. SO YES. QUAWMPLES SAY AYE. 
          -- ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN, YES HEARD THAT. 
          >> I GOT TO BE A NAY ON THAT ONE JUDGE. >> OKAY UNDERSTAND. 
          >> SO IT PASSES 3 TO 2 TO PAY THESE AND PLEASE LADIES, LET'S WATCH FOR THE DUPLICATES IN THE FUTURE AND BOTH OF YOU BE ON THE SAME PAGE IN THE NEXT. ITEM G, I THINK THAT WAS YOURS 
          [G.  Authorize payment of bills - Special Motions List - Lockwood Andrews & Newnam (LAN) dated September 27, 2023.]
          COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. >> I JUST ALSO WANT TO NOTE, THIS IS FOR LOCKWOOD ANDREWS AND 
          NEWNAM. IS THIS THE LAST PAYMENT? >> NO, SIR, THIS IS NOT THE LAST PAYMENT. THIS IS THE CURRENT PAYMENT THAT IS DUE. 
          THE H MAP HAS BEEN FINALIZED AND SUBMITTED TO TETAM FOR REVIEW. AND THEN IT WILL BE TOWARDED ON TO FEMA FOR APPROVAL. AND THEN ONCE THAT COMES BACK WITH APPROVAL THEN A FINAL BILL WILL BE DUE. BECAUSE THEY WILL PRODUCE BOOKS FOR ALL OF THE REGIONS WHO ARE 
          PARTICIPATING IN THIS HAZARD MITIGATION ACTION PLAN. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF THE 
          TIME LINE? >> WE WERE TOLD THE END OF OCTOBER. 
          OR END OF -- TAKE THAT BACK. END OF NOVEMBER. WE EXPECT TO BE ADVISED BY THE END OF OCTOBER OF APPROVAL. AND THEN THE MANUALS WERE PRODUCED FOR EACH INSTITUTION BY 
          THE END OF NOVEMBER. >> VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. >> YOU MAKE A MOTION TO PASS. 
          >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, AYE. 
          [O.  Approve Interlocal Agreement with the Coastal Bend Council of Governments, related to the planning, development, operation and provision of 9-1-1 Public Safety Answering Points.]
ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES, MOVING ON TO ITEM O. 
          >> I PULLED THAT ONE JUDGE. I HAVE ONE QUESTION ONLY. IS THERE A FUNDING SOURCE OR 
          WHAT'S THE COST? WHERE IS IT COMING FROM? >> YES, SIR, THE GLO GAVE US $100,000. AND THEN ALL OF THE NUECES COUNTY WATER DISTRICTS WHICH THERE WERE THREE, 2, 3 AND 4, PAID $22,700 APIECE, EACH, TO PARTICIPATE. 
          AND WE HAVE RECEIVED ALL THOSE CHECKS IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND ALL OF THESE FUNDS ARE GOING THROUGH IS THE JUDGE'S ACCOUNT BECAUSE SHE FUNDED THE MONEY 
          [00:50:08]
          UNTIL WE GOT THE GRANTS. >> THAT WAS $100,000. THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING IT COMES BACK TO MY ACCOUNT, I HAVE SEEN THESE CHECKS, SOME OF THEM HAVE COME TO MY OFFICE TOO. 
          I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? 
          [R.  Receive update, if any, regarding the Bob Hall Pier project and all related matters.]
SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES. ITEM R. 
          COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. >> THANK YOU JUDGE. JUST A BRIEF COMMENT THAT I JUST WANTED TO THROW OUT TO THE COURT. AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT TO ME. THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH YOUR HELP FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS. I AM JUST THROWING THIS OUT BECAUSE I'M LOOKING FOR -- I'M LOOKING FOR HELP AND THE HELP BEING IF ANY OF THE THREE OF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS OR SUGGESTIONS OR ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO TWEAK OR DO, THAT COULD POSSIBLY PUT THIS RESTAURANT -- THIS THIRD PARTY CONCESSIONAIRE BUILDING BACK ON THE TABLE I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTION. 
          I'M LOOKING FOR HELP ANYWHERE I CAN GET IT. AND SO I'M JUST ASKING THAT THOSE IN THE MAJORITY CONSIDER, THIS WILL BE AN ITEM THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DISCUSS AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO AFFORD IN SOME CAPACITY AND I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT CERTAINLY, IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT THAT NOT ONLY IS MY PRECINCT BUT IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR THE COUNTY, IT DROVE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS TO THAT PIER AND IT WAS A GREAT SENSE OF PLACE. 
          I'M AGAIN HUMBLY JUST ASKING, IF Y'ALL CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SUPPORT THAT TWEAKS WHAT WE DID THAT CAN OFFICIALLY MOVE THAT THIRD PARTY CONCESSIONAIRE BUILDING FORWARD, I'D HAVE NO OBJECTION TO ANYBODY BRINGING THINGS UP AND HAVING DISCUSSIONS, I KNOW THERE ARE TWO VERY STRONG SIDES OF THIS ISSUE AND I'M JUST ASKING FOR THE COURT'S CONSIDERATION, IF ANYBODY COMES UP WITH ANYTHING, I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS. IT IS MORE THAN A GENERAL COMMENT. I WANTED TO SAY IT IN A GENERAL MEETING BECAUSE I CAN'T TALK TO MORE THAN ONE PERSON OFFLINE. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT IT TO PUT ANYBODY ON A SPOT, IT IS THE ONLY WAY I CAN DO IT TO HAVE THE ENTIRE COURT HAVE INPUT. OTHER THAN THAT I DON'T HAVE ANY ACTION ON IT, JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT AND APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THAT 
          PROJECT. THANK YOU. >> ARE YOU ASKING FOR NOW IF ANYONE HAS ANYTHING, DO THEY WANT TO BRING IT UP? DOES ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER WANT 
          TO BRING IT UP? >> NOW, NEXT MEETING, IF ANYBODY DOES, GREAT, IF NOBODY DOES, I'LL TRY THE FIGURE OUT IF I CAN GET SOMETHING ON SO IF SOMEBODY CAN CHANGE THEIR MIND ON, IF SOMEBODY ELSE DOES I WANT TO HAVE SOME SUGGESTION OR SOME HOPE TO MAYBE KEEP THAT DREAM ALIVE. BUT SO THAT'S IT. YES, MA'AM. 
          >> DOES ANYONE WISH TO ADD ANYTHING RIGHT NOW? THERE BEING NONE WE'LL MOVE ON. 
          I GUESS WE NEED A MOTION -- >> IT'S JUST -- RIGHT NOW IT'S -- 
          >> IT DOESN'T MATTER. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. >> AND I WILL CHANGE THE LANGUAGE TO THAT TO MAKE SURE IT'S AN ACTION ITEM IN THE FUTURE IN CASE THAT WAS THE INTENT, MONTH MATTER WHAT. WE'VE GOT THE REPAIR AND WE'VE E SOMETHING ELSE, THAT'S NEEDED. 
          THANK YOU. >> MOVING ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. ITEM 3A. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZATION AND APPROVING THE RETIREMENT -- OH, I MADE NEED TO PUSH -- IS THE DOCK HERE, ARE THEY HERE WITH THE RETIREMENT -- 
          [2.  Consideration and appropriate action, if any, to ratify a collective bargaining agreement negotiated between Nueces County, Texas and the Nueces County Sheriffs Officers Association (NCSOA).]
SORRY, 1:30, I NEED TO BRING THAT ONE BACK. A 2, CONSIDERATION AND APPROPRIATE ACTION IF ANY TO RATIFY THE CLEFNG DISAGREEMENT NEGOTIATED BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY 
          AND THE NUECES COUNTY SHERIFFS OFFICERS ASSOCIATION. >> SO MOVED. 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I SECOND THAT MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AND 
          I DO UNDERSTAND, YES IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, WE WANT 
          [00:55:06]
TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE NUECES COUNTY SHERIFFS OFFICERS ASSOCIATION. 
          WE APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORT THAT EVERYBODY PUT THROUGH ALL THEIR OFFICES, THE COUNTY AUDITORS, ALL OF Y'ALL. WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE MARKET BASED COMPENSATION STUDY THAT'S GOING TON DONE AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO PUT US IN A COMPENSATION WITH A LOT OF THESE OTHER COUNTIES. COMPETITION WITH A LOT OF THESE OTHER COUNTIES. 
          JUST APPRECIATE Y'ALL. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU SIR. 
          >> CAN I COMMENT ON THAT? >> YES. >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND EVERYTHING. THIS WAS A DIFFICULT PROCESS. 
          THIS COURT IS -- HAS ALWAYS BEEN SUPERPROLAW ENFORCEMENT, WE TRIED TO SHOW THAT IN EVERY WAY WE CAN. WE HAD A DIFFICULT TIME THIS YEAR AND I KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY SKEPTICISM THAT MAYBE THIS WAS STALL TACTIC OR WHATEVER. I THINK YOU SAW IT TRULY WASN'T AND I THINK YOU SAW THE SINCERE EFFORT THAT THIS COURT AS A WHOLE AND EVERYBODY ON THIS COURT MADE BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY HAVE -- AND I DON'T MEAN TO SPEAK COLLECTIVELY BUT I BELIEVE IT IS TRUE. I BELIEVE THIS COURT HAS ALWAYS PLACED AND I KNOW I HAVE A HUGE EMPHASIS ON LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND I THINK LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRST RESPONDERS ARE ALWAYS IN THE CLASS BY THEMSELVES, AS WHAT THEY SHOULD GET IN LIFE BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT YOU'RE CONSTANTLY PUTTING YOURSELVES ON THE LINE FOR OTHERS. I APPRECIATE THAT AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. I KNOW IT WASN'T EASY BUT I THINK HOPEFULLY YOU DID SEE AND IT SOUNDS LIKE DID YOU BY THE VOTE THAT THIS COURT MADE A SINCERE EFFORT IN ONE OF THE LOWER BUDGETS I'VE SEEN IN ALL OF THIS TO STILL GET YOU A VERY GOOD CONTRACT. 
          AND I HOPE THAT -- AND I KNOW THAT YOU REALIZE IT BECAUSE IT WAS AN OVERWHELMING VOTE THE MAJORITY OF THIS AND WE REALLY WE APPRECIATE THAT TOO BECAUSE WE REALLY, REALLY WORKED HARD AS A COLLECTIVE BODY TO GET THIS DONE AND GET AS MUCH AS WE COULD ON THE TABLE WITH WHERE WE WERE AND I APPRECIATE THE MEMBERSHIP BEING SUPPORTIVE, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH WE DO. 
          WE DO VALUE YOU GREATLY AND VALUE WHAT YOUR MEMBERS DO SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 3. >> DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT? 
          >> WE ALREADY VOTED. >> THAT WAS QUICK. MY BAD. 
          >> I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY QUICK BUT WE DID VOTE. YES. 
          [3.  Discuss and consider approval of the Fees for Sheriff and Constable for 2024, pursuant to Section 118.131 of the Texas Local Government Code.]
          >> I WAS TESTING YOU JUDGE, YOU PASSED. >> ITEM NUMBER 3, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FEES FOR SHERIFF AND CONSTABLE FOR 2024. 
          AND YOU DO HAVE THOSE FEES IN YOUR PACKET. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> JUDGE, JUST QUICKLY ON THIS ONE IF I CAN. 
          YOU KNOW I BELIEVE WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS, WE'RE STILL -- THEY'LL DO AN ANALYSIS I THINK ON THIS QUITE SOME TIME AGO AND I THINK THE ANALYSIS STILL HOLDS. 
          WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE IS EVENTUALLY GET THIS TO EVEN WHERE IT COMPENSATES THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS AND WE'RE STILL WELL OFF OF THAT NUMBER BUT WE UNDERSTAND TOO THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THINGS TOWARDS NOT KILLING PEOPLE EITHER. BUT I APPRECIATE IF EFFORT THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS TO SHOW THAT WE ARE STILL WELL UNDERCHARGING WHAT IT COST US TO DO BUSINESS. 
          BUT I THINK THIS IS FAIR, AND I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT WENT INTO MAKING THIS HAPPEN AS WELL. 
          >> THERE WAS AN UPDATED LIST THAT WAS CIRCULATED IDEA BY THE SHERIFFS OFFICE. 
          IS THAT THE ONE THAT'S BEING VOTED ON NOW? >> WITHIN YOUR PACKETS YOU HAVE ONE THAT IS THE CURRENT RATE AND ONE THAT IS 5%. WE ARE ASKING WHAT THE 
          COMMISSIONERS ARE ASKING TO APPROVE. >> SO -- OKAY. 
          >> I DIDN'T -- DID WE GET THOSE UPDATED ONE? >> WE WERE ASKED TO PROVIDE 5%. 
          THE CURRENT RATE IS WHAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS ASKING FOR AT THE CURRENT RATE. 
          >> AND THAT'S BASED -- I MEAN THAT'S BASED ON THE FACT THAT WHAT WE'RE CHARGING DOES NOT 
          COVER WHAT IT IS TO DO THIS WORK. >> THAT'S CORRECT. 
          >> BY LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS. >> YES. >> AND WE AGREE WITH THAT. 
          >> AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE, THERE IS -- THERE ARE SOME PARENTHETICALS THAT WERE ADDED YESTERDAY ABOUT FEES FOR PROTECTIVE ORDERS STATUTORILY, THOSE ARE NOT TO BE CHARGED TO THE APPLICANT. THAT WAS CORRECTED, AND WE GOT THAT BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S WHAT'S -- YOU'RE VOTING ON RIGHT NOW. 
          >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, DALE DO YOU KNOW THAT ONE? >> WE'LL MAKE SURE WE WORK WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ON THIS AND THOSE ARE ADDRESSED WHEN THIS IS APPROVED. 
          >> CAN WE MAKE A MOTION TO PASS AS IS -- >> THERE ARE FEES FOR PROTECTIVE 
          [01:00:03]
          ORDERS IN HERE. >> SO THE ONE THAT WE RECEIVED YESTERDAY AS AN UPDATED VERSION SIMPLY HAS AND THERE'S ONE EXAMPLE ON THERE THAT'S A PARENTHETICAL, IT SAYS IT CAN'T BE CHARGED TO THE APPLICANT ONLY POSSIBLY TO THE RESPONDENT IF ORDERED BY THE COURT. 
          YOU KNOW, AT THE CONCLUSION OF EVERYTHING. I CAN FORWARD THAT, MY E-MAIL 
          JUST CRASHED. BUT -- >> IN OTHER WORDS THE FEES ARE OKAY BUT IT HAS TO BE DISTINGUISHED THAT IT CAN'T BE CHANCHED TO THE VICTIM. 
          >> STATUTORILY REQUIRED. >> WITH THAT CLARIFICATION JUDGE WITH YOUR MOTIONING I'LL SECOND. 
          IF YOU ARE DOING -- >> I THINK WE HAD A MOTION, YOU AND HERNANDEZ WERE -- WOULD YOU ACCEPT THAT AS AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR MOTION TO CHANGE YOUR MOTION? 
          >> I WOULD. >> YES. >> OKAY AND YOUR SECOND. 
          >> YES, MA'AM. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES. 
          [4.  Discuss and consider renewal and amendment of agreement between Texas General Land Office/Veterans Land Board and Nueces County related to the operation of the Coastal Bend Veteran’s Cemetery, and related matters.]
ITEM NUMBER 4, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE RENEWAL AND AMENDMENT OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TEXAS GLO VETERANS LAND BOARD AND NUECES COUNTY RELATED TO THE OPERATION. 
          AND THIS IS ACCEPTING ADDITIONAL FUNDS. THIS IS A CONTRACT THAT IS WAITING FOR ME TO DOCUSIGN ON HERE AND WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE, APPRECIATIVE FOR YOU JJ AND YOUR WORK OUT THERE, WE HAD THE CEREMONY THIS PAST WEEK AND IT WAS AN HONOR TO HAVE EVERYONE THERE AND WE THANK THEM PERSONALLY FOR THIS AND HOPE TO LIVE UP TO THEIR EXPECTATIONS AND KEEP THIS PLACE LOOKING AMAZING AND BEAUTIFUL. SO I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO 
          PASS. >> SO MOVE. >> PASSED. 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE, ANY OPPOSED SAME SIGN. 
          [5.  Discuss and consider Amendment No. 1 to the Interlocal Agreement Between Nueces County and City of Robstown for Fire and Emergency Rescue Services (MOU), and related matters.]
THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 5 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 TO THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY AND THE CITY OF ROBSTOWN FOR FIRE AND EMERGENCY RESCUE SERVICES MOU. I BELIEVE THIS IS JUST TO EXTEND FOR ONE MONTH BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONLY GROUP THAT IS AT A DIFFERENT RATE AND NOT UPSTAIRS. AND COMMERCE MAWRZ HAS TALKED WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND HE IS FINE WITH THE INVOICING AND THE MOU TO BE HANDLED JUST LIKE THE OTHER ONES UPSTAIRS. SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO PASS FROM COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'M SORRY. 
          COMMISSIONER MAWRZ. >> JUST CONTEXT, MY OFFICE WAS DESIGNATED TO DO THIS EVEN PRIOR TO ME COMING IN UNDER COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. WE APPRECIATE IT, SANDRA NOW PRISCILLA HAD BEEN HANDLING THAT, WE APPRECIATE THE RIGHTFUL GROUP SHOULD BE THE WUFNEDZ HANDLING INDIRECT CONTACTING OR THE INVOICING. THANK YOU FOR TAKING IT ON. 
          >> YOU'RE SURE WELCOME SIR. >> ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES. 
          [6.  Discuss and consider taking action regarding CR 18 bridge repairs located at the intersection of CR 18 and CR 65, and other related matters.]
THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 6, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER TAKING ACTION REGARDING COUNTY ROAD 18 BRIDGE REPAIRS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 18 AND 65, OTHER RELATED MATTERS. I THINK COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ THIS IS YOUR MOTION. 
          >> I MAKE A MOTION TO PROCEED WITH THE REPAIRS. >> SECOND. 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO PROCEED WITH THE REPAIRS. AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. THIS IS, IT IS TO BE PAID BY COMMISSIONER PRECINCT 2 FUNDS TO BE DETERMINED. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. DESTINY OPPOSED, SAME SIREN. 
          THE MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER 7, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER POLICIES REGARDING THE 
          [7.  Discuss and consider policies regarding Nueces County ETJ Platting Interlocal and collecting plat application fees within the County's jurisdiction and related matters.]
NUECES COUNTY ETJ PLATTING INTERLOCAL AND COLLECTING PLAT APPLICATION FEES WITHIN THE COUNTY'S JURISDICTION. AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER MEDITEHERNANDEZ, YOU HAVE CHALLD THIS, AND I THINK MR. PIMENTEL IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT I BELIEVE FOR YOU. 
          YES. >> COMMISSIONERS -- >> YES, GO AHEAD. 
          >> I THINK JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, I THINK THERE'S AN INTERLOCAL GRANT BETWEEN US AND THE CITY WHERE I THINK WE SHOULD, IT'S STATED THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET REFUNDED SOME OF THE MONEYS THAT ARE BEING CHARGED WITHIN THE ATJ AND I THINK COMMISSIONER HAD REQUESTED FOR US TO LOOK INTO IT AND ALSO WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. 
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          YOU WANT TO GO COMMISSIONER? >> YES THAT'S TRUE JUDGE. I SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GENERATE REVENUE. IT HASN'T BEEN TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF BY US. 
          THE CITY COLLECTS ALL THE MONEYS AND THEY HAVEN'T -- I READ THE CONTRACT AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GIVE ALL THE PLATTING FEES TO PLIRKTS. PUBLIC WORKS AND THAT HASN'T BEEN HAPPENING. SO BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO FIND OUT WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP WE CAN TAKE TO GET SOME OF THESE FUNDS REFUNDED TO US. 
          AND I ALSO WANT TO, IF I MAY, I ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE WE SHOULD START OUR OWN, OUR OWN PLANNING 
          DEPARTMENT. PLANNING DEPARTMENT. >> COMMISSIONER, I WARRANT TO TELL YOU, THIS IS A GREAT CATCH ON YOUR PART, YOU'RE DEAD ON, ON THIS. 
          I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE PLATTING DEPARTMENT YET, NOT SURE ON THAT ONE YET BUT I'M REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THIS BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY NEEDS TO REALLY PURSUE TO GET THOSE FUNDS BACK AND TO START GETTING THOSE FUNDS GOING FORWARD. 
          BECAUSE WE DO PLAY A ROLE IN IT. THERE'S A REASON WHY THAT AGREEMENT'S IN PLACE AND IF IT'S POSSIBLE THEN LET'S PURSUE IT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE END RESULT WILL BE BUT IT IS A GOOD ATTEMPT AND A GOOD CATCH SO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FOR POINTING ALL THAT STUFF OUT. 
          >> THANK YOU SIR. >> I DO NOT HAVE ANY EVIDENCE THAT THE CITY COLLECTED ANY FEES ON THOSE ETJ PLATS. AND I'M UNAWARE OF ANY FEE THAT THE COUNTY CHARGES FOR PLATTING. 
          SO I DON'T THINK COMMISSIONER. AT THIS POINT, I DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE OF REFUNDS OWED TO THE 
          COUNTY. I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR. >> WELL, JEAN, ALL I CAN SAY IS THE CITY GIVES OUT PERMITS. THE CITY CHARGES FOR PERMITS. OKAY. 
          AND THE REASON I'M AGAINST THIS IS BECAUSE THE CITY IS NOT HOLDING UP TO THEIR AGREEMENT. 
          THEY'RE NOT GOING OUT THERE MAKING SURE THE DEVELOPERS ARE DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, OKAY? THIS IS WHY WE HAVE FLOODING PROBLEMS OUT THERE. 
          BECAUSE THE CITY IS NOT INSISTING ON THE DEVELOPERS TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT, AS FAR AS FLOODINGS CONTROL, THE ROADS AND THIS. AND THIS IS WHY I THINK WE 
          SHOULD CONSIDER TAKING -- DOING OUR PART FOR THE COUNTY -- >> ABSOLUTELY COMMISSIONER. 
          I JUST -- YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT AND ASSERTED THAT THERE WERE REFUNDS OWED TO THE COUNTY AND I DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE THE INFORMATION THAT I HAD GIVEN INFORMATION TO THAT EFFECT. 
          >> THAT IS WHY I ASKED MR. PIMENTEL, HE'S MORE FAMILIAR HOW THESE WORK AND HOW WE COULD 
          BENEFIT FROM THIS. >> THEY ARE CHARGED SOMETHING FOR SOME. 
          THEY'RE NOT DOING NOTHING FOR NOTHING. IF THEY ARE APPROVING PLATS THEY HAVE GOT SOMETHING DESIGNATED SOMEWHERE, IT IS GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE DIGGING. 
          THEY CHARGE OUT THE WAZOO OUT THERE THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT CHARGING MORE THOSE IMPACT FEES. 
          JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T CALL IT JENNY A PLATTING FEE IT'S IN THERE SOMEWHERE. 
          IT'S BUNDLED IN THERE, I DON'T KNOW, JUST BECAUSE IT'S -- YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THE TRICK MAY BE IT MAY BE BUNDLED AND NOT CALLED A PLATTING FEE BUT THEY ARE CHARGING FOR IT. 
          THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING FOR FREE THERE. >> YOU ARE CORRECT COMMISSIONER. 
          THERE IS A PLATTING FEE THAT THEY CHARGE A DEVELOPER THAT, ONE ACRE TRACT OR A 100 ACRE TRACT. THERE IS A COST PER ACRE THAT THEY DO CHARGE FOR DOING THE PLAT AT THE CITY. DO WE HAVE THOSE TYPE OF FEES HERE AT THE COUNTY? NO SIR, WE DON'T CHARGE HERE AT THE COUNTY FOR THOSE FEES. BUT ANYTHING WITHIN THE ETJ IS BEING REVIEWED BY THE CITY FOR PLATTING PURPOSES AND DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES. 
          >> BUT THEN THEY SEND IT OVER TO YOU FOR REVIEW. >> YES, WE DO GET THE PLATS THAT ARE BEING SUBMITTED WITHIN THE ETJ THAT WE REVIEW INTERNALLY BUT WE DON'T CHARGE A FEE FOR 
          THAT. >> IF THEY SEND IT TO YOU FOR REVIEW, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO PULL UP A LIST OF ALL THEY'VE SENT YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY SEND IT TO 
          YOU DOCUMENTED OR WHAT. >> YES, MA'AM. WE GET -- 
          >> THAT MAY HELP JENNY WITH HER REQUEST. >> WE OUGHT TO GET A PIECE OF 
          THAT PIE. >> IF YOU'RE HAVING TO WORK ON IT THEN YES. 
          >> I'M NOT SAYING WE WANT TO CHARGE EXTRAS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO QUASH IT BUT WE NEED TO GET A PIECE OF WHAT THEY'RE CHARGING. I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO START A NEW FEE AND HAVE EVERYBODY SHOW UP AND SAY WE'RE ADDING TO THE COST OF THE REDEVELOPMENT. 
          BUT WE SHOULD GET A PIECE OF THE PIE. I THINK COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ IS ON THAT. ARE FOR THE MONEY YOU SPEND ON IT JUST LIKE THEY SPEND IT. 
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IF IT'S 90% THEM AND 10% US, THAT'S FINE. BUT THERE'S GOT TO BE AN 
          EQUITABLE WAY TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM. >> DOES THE MOU, IS IT CURRENT 
          HAS IT EXPIRED? >> NO, IT IS CURRENT, IT SAYS -- >> YES? 
          >> IT SAYS THAT THE FEES THEY COLLECT WILL COME TO THE COUNTY. >> AND DOESN'T SAY AN AMOUNT, 
          PERCENTAGE OR ANYTHING? >> IT'S NOT SPLIT. BUT I HAVE -- 
          >> BUT IT SAYS THE FEES THEY COLLECT WOULD BE -- >> IF THEY COLLECT A FEE, IT WILL -- BUT THE CONTRACT IS SPECIFIC. IT SAYS IF THEY COLLECT A FEE IT WILL BE SENT OVER AND WHAT THEY HAVE ASSERTED TO US AT LEAST WHEN I ASKED THAT SPECIFIC NARROW QUESTION, IS DO THEY COLLECT A PLATTING FEE. NO, THEY DO NOT. 
          ON THOSE IN THE ETJ. I'M TOLD THAT THERE ARE BETWEEN EIGHT AND TEN OF THESE ANNUALLY, THAT THE CITY SENDS OVER FOR REVIEW. AND SO IT JUST MAY TAKE A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION OR AS YOU SAID COMMISSIONER CHESNEY TO FIND OUT WHAT KIND OF FEE THEY ARE COLLECTING AND WHETHER IT QUALIFIES TO COME OVER TO THE COUNTY. 
          >> EXACTLY. SO THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY ACTION, THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE IN KEEPING EVERYONE INFORMED OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ 
          AS WELL. >> JUDGE IF I COULD SAY SOMETHING, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO CHARGE ANYTHING THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE ETJ THAT WE CAN CHARGE THE COUNTY ITSELF, RIGHT 
          NOW WE DON'T CHARGE ANYTHING FOR THESE TYPE OF PLATS ALSO. >> DEVELOPER? 
          >> CORRECT FOR DEVELOPERS. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT -- 
          >> TO WORK ON -- >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE, I'D LIKE TO PURSUE GETTING WHAT 
          THEY'RE CHARGING FIRST. >> YES, SIR. >> SEE IF IT'S EVEN BENEFICIAL 
          OR HOW MUCH IT IS. >> SORRY JUDGE. IF THEY'RE CHARGING FOR THIS, THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE CALLING IT. THERE'S NO WAY THEY ARE CHARGING FOR THIS. THEY CHARGE FOR EVERYTHING AT THE CITY SO I DON'T BELIEVE THEY ARE NOT CHARGING FOR THIS, I'M SORRY, THEY MAY NOT BE CALLING IT THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ IS GOING TO, PLEASE DON'T LET THEM TELL YOU THEY ARE NOT CHARGING FOR 
          THIS. BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE IT. >> JUDGE ALL I'M SAYING, COMMISSIONERS, IS WE'RE TAKING UP THE BURDEN OF FIXING OUR ROADS, BY THESE DEVELOPERS AND THE CITY'S NOT HELPING. I'VE ASKED THEM. I SPOKE TO AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND HE PROMISED ME THAT WE'RE GOING TO START ASSISTING US WITH RECONSTRUCTING OUR ROADS BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING BROKEN UP BY THOSE HEAVY TRUCKS, CEMENT TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES BY THERE AND THE CITIZENS ARE COMPLAINING THAT THEY'RE SPEEDING BY THERE. 
          SO I THINK WE DESERVE SOME KIND OF FEE. SO WE CAN TRY AND FIX OUR ROADS 
          IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HELP US. SO I THINK WE DESERVE FEES. >> THANK YOU. 
          I THINK WE'RE GOOD. YES, I APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU JUAN. 
          >> MOVING ON TO ITEM 8. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE TRANSFER OF DUTIES OF RECORDING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION FROM THE COUNTY CLERK BACK TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. 
          AND I THINK COMMISSIONER CHESNEY YOU PUT -- DID YOU PUT THAT ON? >> NO, THE COUNTY CLERK DID. 
          >> COUNTY CLERK DID. YES. I THINK WE DO HAVE TO RECORD, SOME MEETINGS HAVE TO BE RECORDED. I HAVE TALKED TO STAFF. 
          WE'LL JUST ORDER A TAPE RECORDER. I THINK THERE IS A SAFE UP IN THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE THAT WE COULD STORE THE RECORDINGS IN THAT WE CAN MOVE IT DOWN HERE INTO THE OTHER OFFICE TO STORE. SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US TAKING THIS OVER AND DOING IT. DID THE COUNTY CLERK GIVE YOU ANY INFORMATION TO SAY -- CAN 
          YOU PUT YOUR MICROPHONE, SORRY. >> CAN WE CIRCLE BACK TO THIS? >> YOU WANT US TO COME BACK TO 
          IT LATER? >> SURE. I'LL CIRCLE IT TO COME BACK. 
          [9.  Discuss and consider revising or adopting a policy formalizing the appointment process for appointments to boards and commissions by the commissioners court, and related matters.]
MOVING ON TO ITEM 9, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REVISING AND ADOPTING A POLICY FOARMSING THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS FOR APPOINTMENTS TO BOARD AND COMMISSIONS BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, THIS ONE IS 
          YOURS COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. >> IT IS, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GOT THE BUCH, AND HARD COPY, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GOT THAT BEFORE I START, EVERYBODY GOOD ON THAT, YES, PAIN? OKAY SO IF NOT I CAN GET SOME MORE COPIES MADE. 
          I GOT TO FIND MINE. THE PURPOSE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS EVERY TIME ONE OF THESE HIGHER PROFILE BOARDS COMES UP AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. AND I THINK SEVERAL -- I KNOW SEVERAL EVER US HAVE MADE MENTION ABOUT WANTING TO COME UP WITH A PROCESS THAT IS OPEN TRCH AND A LITTLE MORE NOT -- TRANSPARENT AND NOT MORE WHO NOM NECESSITATES THE FIRST PERSON 
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OUT OF THE CHUTE, BROAD BASIS THAT GIVES EVERYONE AN OPPORTUNITY, ON THESE HIGHER PRO TIME BOARDS TO SEE WHAT WE SEE AND HEAR WHAT WE HEAR. SO THIS WAS JUST TO START. 
          NO PRIDE IN AUTHORSHIP. IF NISH'S GOT ANY IDEAS OR TWEAKS OR WHATEVER I'M CERTAINLY OPEN TO IT. BUT BASICALLY AND I'LL JUST KIND OF READ IT FOR PUBLIC. 
          IT WOULD BE THE PROPOSAL IS A TWO STEP PROCESS. AND WHAT I INCLUDED WAS THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT, PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND THE RTA. WE COULD ADD SPON, I UNDERSTAND THERE WOULD BE A CHANGE ON THAT BUT SPON WOULD BE AN ADDITION ON THAT IF THERE ISN'T ANY CHANGE. 
          THE FIRST POINT IS THAT EACH COMMISSIONER AND THE JUDGE WOULD PICK THEIR TOP TWO APPLICANTS AFTER APPLICATIONS CLOSE AND SUBMIT THOSE TO HR. AND THAT MAY NOT BE HR. 
          I WAS THINKING WHAT WE NORMALLY DO WITH HIRES THAT REALLY SHOULD BE PROBABLY COURT, WE DON'T HAVE 
          COURT ADMIN. >> APPOINTMENTS GO TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, THEY GO TO TARA OR ME. IF YOU TURN IN YOUR LETTER THAT'S WHERE THOSE GO. 
          >> TO WHOEVER HANDLES THIS. I JUST PUT HR BECAUSE I WAS THINKING HIRE. 
          NUMBER 2 FOR ANY APPLICANT WHO DOES TWO VOTES WE DO A PUBLIC INTERVIEW. 
          THEN EACH COMMISSIONER OR JUDGE HAS THE ABILITY TO NOMINATED ONE CANDIDATE ON THE BOARD. 
          EACH WOULD VOTE FOR THEIR OWN PERSON AND VOTE FOR ANOTHER ONE AS WELL. 
          THE TOP 2 OR 1 DEPENDING ON SPOTS OPEN OR THREE WHATEVER WOULD GET IT. 
          IF THERE IS A TIE BETWEEN THE TWO, BETWEEN TWO AND THERE IS ONLY ONE SPOT THEN THOSE TWO GO INTO THE NEXT ROUND AND EACH COMMISSIONER AND JUDGE WOULD VOTE ONE TIME. 
          AGAIN THE PURPOSE IS JUSTTO SO THAT -- I REALLY THINK IT WOULD BE COOL ESPECIALLY ON THESE THREE, AND WOULD I PROBABLY PUT SPON IN THERE TOO TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY HAVE SOME OPEN DIALOGUE SO THAT WE COULD ASK QUESTIONS IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC FOR THESE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SERVE ON THESE VERY HIGH PROFILE BOARDS AND IT WOULD GIVE EVERYBODY AN OPEN AND TRANSPARENT WAY TO DO THINGS. IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION AND IT WAS SO EXCITING THAT TWO MEMBERS 
          LEFT. NO, I'M KIDDING. >> COMMISSIONER MARE DID ISDID . 
          MARE IS ONLINE. >> IT WOULD BE NICE AN EXAMPLE TO DO FOR THE RTA WE DIDN'T HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE. YES I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE IT FORWARD IF NO ONE HAS ANY CHANGES OR ADDITIONS OR WHATEVER. SO, YOU KNOW. 
          WE HAVE GOT A BIG ONE COMING UP AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ADD SPO IN TO THIS LIST. SPON TO THIS LIST. YOU CAN ALWAYS SUSPEND THINGS BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE YOU DON'T HAVE A WAY TO TELL THE PUBLIC YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT SO -- 
          >> COMMISSIONER, JUDGE. >> YES. >> I MYSELF I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF TABLE THIS, HAVE MORE TIME TO PROCESS IT AND SEE HOW IT -- YOU KNOW, HAVE MORE TIME TO PROCESS IT. AND SEE HOW IT'S REALLY SUPPOSED TO WORK. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION, COMMISSIONER, BUT IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT -- DID YOU SAY HR WAS 
          GOING TO HAVE PART OF IT? >> IT WAS A MISTAKE. I JUST THINK THIS IS -- COMMISSIONER I MODELED THIS AFTER HOW WE DO DIRECT HIRES, THIS IS KIND OF HOW WE DO DIRECT HIRES OTHER THAN THE PUBLIC INTERVIEW PROCESS. SO I PUT HR IN, IT SHOULD HAVE 
          GONE NOT TO HR BUT WHOEVER DOES OUR APPLICATIONS. >> TARA IS ONLINE TOO SHE TAKES OUR APPLICATIONS SHE MAY CLARIFY FOR US. IF YOU WANT TO UNMUTE TARA. 
          >> SO COMMISSIONER I THINK YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT, BUT THE HR MIGHT BE BEST -- I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO LIKE A LEGITIMATE LIKE BACKGROUND CHECK SERVICE. AND THAT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR 
          SOME OF THE GIGGER BOARDS. >> MAYBE HR IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, HA, I GOT LUCKY. 
          >> AND I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK WHICH BOARDS YOU WERE WANTING TO -- I KNOW YOU SAID 
          HOSPITAL DISTRICT RTA. >> PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND SPON, THE FOUR. 
          >> OKAY. >> THE ONLY THING I WOULD THINK ABOUT IS MAYBE DEFINING, MAYBE 
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          WHAT A BIG BOARD CONSTITUTES. >> SPEAK UP. YOU'RE KIND OF -- 
          >> REALLY MUFFLED. >> BUT IF YOU GUYS ARE KIND OF IRONING OUT THE DETAILS ON THIS 
          I THINK THAT SOUNDS GOOD. >> THE ONLY QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS, JUST LIKE THE OTHER SITUATION WITH THE OTHER APPOINTMENTS, BECAUSE THE APPOINTMENTS SAY THEY GO TO THE -- YOU TURN THEM INTO THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE. SO THEY WOULD ALMOST NEED TO ADD ALMOST BOTH OR WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE SAME POSITION THAT WE JUST HAD WITH ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL THAT TURNED IT INTO A BOARD MEMBER THAT THEY'RE ASKING TO BE ON. 
          INSTEAD OF THE COURT. >> NO I AGREE. IT COULD BE HR/COUNTY JUDGE'S 
          OFFICE. >> JUST SOMEONE IN OUR OFFICE. >> WHO IT GOES TO IS NOT -- IT'S JUST SOMEONE THAT'S GOING TO TALLY IT RIGHT? IT'S NOT GOING TO BE -- DOESN'T 
          MATTER TO ME WHERE IT GOES, IT'S >> BUT THE TWO I THINK IS A GOOD PLACE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO REVIEW AS WELL JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE. OR WE NEED TO CHANGE THE REST OF THE POLICY BECAUSE ALL THE OTHERS GO TO THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE TOO. 
          >> COMMISSIONER DO YOU HAVE ANY -- >> ME? 
          >> YES, IF YOU -- >> ANY OTHER -- >> YOU KNOW, I -- THE PROCESS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS NOT A BAD PROCESS, YOU KNOW? AND THIS IS WHAT WE WERE TALKING EARLIER, FOR VOTING, INDIVIDUALLY. BECAUSE IF I'M GOING TO -- 
          >> AND YOUR MICROPHONE PLEASE. >> WANT TO HAVE LIKE HIRING SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, SENDS YOU THE LIST AND YOU -- THE ONE WHO'S GOT TWO VOTES, GOING TO WANT TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS OR THREE VOTES. I THINK IF I HAVE TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY OR YOU DO, AND HERNANDEZ, I THINK THAT THE ALL SHOULD BE HERE, AND INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THE QUALIFICATION ET CETERA. I LIKE TO INTERVIEW EVERYBODY INDIVIDUALLY, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE. BUT I PREFER TO INTERVIEW, IF THERE'S FOUR APPLICANTS, I LIKE TO REVIEW. IF IT WERE JUST MY APPLICANT, BECAUSE YOU MIGHT -- I MIGHT NOW AND AGAIN ONLY GET TWO VOTES, ONE VOTE FROM SOMEBODY ELSE. 
          BUT I THINK THAT BY THE TIME WE COME TO COURT THINGS COULD CHANGE, YOU NEVER KNOW. 
          SO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO MAKE THIS REALLY A POLICY YET, OR I THOUGHT IT WAS ONLY -- 
          THIS IS FOR DISCUSSION ONLY RIGHT? >> YES, I MEAN WE ARE JUST DISCUSSING IT. WE CAN TABLE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING AS COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ SAID. I WANT TO START FOR DISCUSSION, I LIKE THE INTERVIEW PROCESS. 
          LET'S SAY THERE IS A BOARD THAT 20 APPLICANTS APPLY. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANT TO INTERVIEW ALL 20 RIGHT? SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME WAY TO, YOU KNOW, LIMIT THAT, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, SO WE DON'T DO IT THAT WAY. 
          BUT I MEAN I DON'T HAVE LIKE -- THIS WAS JUST A STARTING POINT. I'D LIKE TO TAKE SOME ACTION -- 
          >> THAT IS A GOOD IDEA COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ TO TABLE TO THE NEXT MEETING TO THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER WHERE WE CAN ALL THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          >> TWO OR THREE OF THEM TODAY, WE'VE ONLY GOT ONE MORE COMING. I THINK IT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE AND HEAR FROM THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE 
          APPLYING FOR THESE BOARDS. >> I DON'T MIND HAVING TO HEAR FROM THEM BUT I DON'T THINK I WANT TO LIMIT IT. THAT'S MY DEAL. AROUND I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO IT THIS YEAR, SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR A POLICY FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          >> WELL NO, I'D LIKE TO -- I'LL BE HONEST. I'D LIKE TO INTERVIEW THOSE PORT PEOPLE THAT IS FIXING TO BE -- THAT IS A BIG BOARD COMING UP. I'D LIKE TO INTERVIEW THEM AND 
          HAVE SOME TYPE OF PROCESS -- >> IF THEY APPLY WE SHOULD INTERVIEW THEM BUT I'M NOT GOING 
          TO SAY WE SHOULD ONLY INTERVIEW TWO. >> NO, EVERYBODY COULD GET TO PICK. IF YOU HAVE SOME SUGGESTION HOW TO DO THE INTERVIEWS -- 
          >> I'LL MAKE A SECOND TO COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ MOTION -- >> I'M TRYING TO GET INPUT FROM EVERYBODY, SO I CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT TO PUT DOWN NEXT TIME SO WE DON'T COME BACK IN AND IN THE SAME SPOT. I CAN TABLE BUT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE -- 
          >> WE KIND OF ALREADY MADE THE MOTION. >> BUT THERE WAS NO SECOND. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO -- IF THERE IS ANYTHING ANYBODY HAS INPUT ON, I'M TROOG TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON. IF THERE'S NOT CONSENSUS, THAT'S FINE TOO. 
          IF EVERYBODY HAS ALREADY SAID THEIR PIECE I'D BE HAPPY TO -- >> HR AND JUDGE'S OFFICE. 
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          >> ALL I'M TRYING TO SAY IS I THINK THE PUBLIC WANTED US TO DECIDE. 
          IT SHOULD BE OUR OWN THOUGHTS AND NOT HUMAN RESOURCE TO -- >> TO TALLY THE VOTES. 
          >> I RECOMMEND THIS, YOU KNOW. >> NO NO, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY SAY IN, NO, HE WOULDN'T HAVE A 
          VOTE OFTEN WHO WE DO. >> THAT WOULD BE THE PERSON TO TALLY THE VOTES. 
          THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A SAY. I APOLOGIZE IF IT CAME OUT THAT WAY. 
          >> JUST WE HAVE A PLACE TO TURN IT INTO AND HE HAS THE TALLY AND HE DOES ON SOME OF THEM HAVE TO DO BACKGROUND CHECKS. THAT IS THE ONLY THING HR WOULD BE INVOLVED IN, NOT ELECTION OR 
          ANYTHING LIKE THAT. >> MISUNDERSTOOD, MY BAD, SORRY. >> I DON'T KNOW IF COMMISSIONER 
          MARE Z WANTED TO -- NO. >> HE DOESN'T HAVE, SO I GUESS WE'RE GOOD. 
          SO WE HAVE A MOTION -- DID YOU WANT TO CHIME IN? >> JUDGE, I WANT TO MENTION A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT. I MEAN I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A BETTER PROCESS. 
          I THINK THAT WHAT'S BEEN SUGGESTED IS A GOOD START. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PERFECT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF I AGREE WITH IT TOTALLY ON EVERY PART. BUT I THINK TODAY WAS A GOOD EXERCISE IN IF WE DO IT INDIVIDUALLY, I MEAN IT'S OKAY. BUT WE'VE NEVER REALLY PRACTICED IT THAT WAY. I JUST WANT SOME UNIFORMITY ON ALL OF THIS, I THINK THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN WE HAVE A STANDARD AND WE FOLLOW IT CONSTANTLY. 
          AT LEAST THROUGH THE BIGGER APPOINTMENTS. I MEAN IT JUST SO HAPPENED THE DAY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT WE HAD APPOINTMENTS TO TWO OF THE THREE BIGGEST POSITIONS WE APPOINT TO WHICH IS THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND TO THE RTA AND OF COURSE THE THIRD, ARGUABLY THE PORT. SO THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT WE JUST HAVE SOME STABILITY ON WHERE WE AND HOW WE VOTE ON THE PROCESS SO THAT THERE'S NO CONFUSION ON THE DAY OF THE VOTE AND THAT WE JUST HAVE THAT PROCESS AND WE WORK THROUGH IT AND, YOU KNOW, WE START THE DISCUSSION TODAY AND WE COME BACK HOPEFULLY BY THE NEXT MEETING AND THEN WE ARE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE, HOW WE'RE GOING TO ABIDE BY IT. AND SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THE PROCESS AS WELL. BUT I REALLY THINK THAT WE NEED THAT. 
          AND TODAY WAS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHY WE DO. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. 
          AND ALSO THIS COULD BE EXTENDED ALSO TO EVERY ONCE THAT WHILE WE HAVE AN OFFICE HOLDER LEAVE OFFICE AND, YOU KNOW, WE COULD EXTEND IT TO THAT TOO. TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF SOME OFFICE HOLDER -- THERE ARE SOME WE HAVE TO APPOINT. WELL IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE THOSE PEOPLE INTERVIEWED IN PUBLIC TOO ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE APPOINTED TO AN ELECTED POSITION, RIGHT? SO I'LL SECOND HIS TABLE FOR THE NEXT MEETING AND I'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY INPUT PLEASE GIVE IT TO ME. 
          I'M LOOK AS COMMISSIONER MAREZ SAID, FOR SOME CONSISTENCY. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO TABLE. AWFERALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. WHEN THE THE NEXT MEETING, 
          OCTOBER 11TH. >> THANK YOU. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          SORRY. AYE. ANY OPPOSED SAME SIGN. 
          [8.  Discuss and consider approval of the transfer of the duties of recording the Executive Session from the County Clerk back to the Commissioners Court, and all related matters.]
THE MOTION PASSES. WE'LL MOVE BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 8 SINCE THE COUNTY CLERK IS HERE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE TRANSFER OF THE DUTIES, THAT WAS YOUR ITEM GOING BACK AND THE 
          COMMISSIONERS COURT TAKING IT FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION RECORDIN- >> RIGHT THAT WAS DONE I WAS REQUESTED TO RECORD AND TO BE PART OF EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE TIME BEING AND I BELIEVE THAT HAS RUN ITS COURSE. I'M NO LONGER -- FOR THE REASON I WAS REQUESTED TO BE IN THERE, 
          THAT'S NO LONGER -- >> NECESSARY. >> NECESSARY FOR ME. 
          IN MY VIEW. SO I JUST WANT TO CHANGE THAT IF YOU ALL CAN. 
          I'M STEPPING BACK SO Y'ALL DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. >> THE LAW SAYS WE COULD DO IT OR WE COULD DESIGNATE YOU. THE LAWS SAYS WE CAN DO IT OR DESIGNATE IT TO YOU. 
          ISN'T THAT RIGHT? SO WE CAN TAKE IT BACK BY LAW. >> OH ABSOLUTELY, YES YES YES. 
          >> I WAS JUST -- >> YES, CLEAN BREAK Y'ALL. >> WE WOULD STILL BE -- WE WOULD BE CHARGED WITH RECORDING OBVIOUSLY AFTER TODAY'S MEETING, SINCE WE'RE ONLY DOING THIS 
          TODAY MAYBE. >> THAT'S UP TO Y'ALL AS WELL. >> THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER POLICY. 
          >> AFTER TODAY I WOULD ASSUME. >> I MEAN YEAH. >> I'M NOT SURE WE ARE GOING TO 
          NEED ANY RECORDING. >> I WILL GIVE YOU THE TAPE RECORDER. 
          >> SEEMS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE ONE THING. >> THERE ARE OCCASIONS WHEN IT'S 
          REQUIRED. >> IF YOU WANT TO GIVE US THE TAPE RECORDER WE CAN DO THAT TOO 
          WHATEVER. >> WE COULD JUST TRANSFER IT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WHO IS ALWAYS IN THERE. LIKE -- SHE DOESN'T WANT TO DO THAT. 
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          >> I CAN PUSH A BUTTON. I AM HAPPY TO DO THAT AND MAN THAT. 
          I DO NOT WANT TO BE THE CUSTODIAN OF THOSE RECORDINGS AFTERWARDS. 
          THAT IS I BELIEVE THAT IS THE JOB OF THE COUNTY JUDGE TO MAINTAIN THOSE DOCUMENTS. 
          >> AND WE FOUND A SOLUTION FOR THAT AS WELL, AS I SAID THERE IS A SAFE UP IN THE OLD FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE THAT WE CAN GET MOVED DOWNSTAIRS AND WE CAN KEEP THOSE. 
          AND QUITE POSSIBLY -- I DON'T KNOW WHO ALL NEEDS THE COMBINATION TO THE SAFE OR 
          WHATEVER. MY OFFICE -- >> WE JUST NEED TO KIND OF TALK THROUGH THAT AS TO -- YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD DO IT PENDING YOU BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP AN ALTERNATE PLAN OR PUT ON AN ALTERNATE MOTION. BUT DO IT SOMEWHAT CONTINGENT 
          ON, SO SHE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO. >> OH, THE RECORDS THAT WE HAVE 
          IN OUR SAFE DO YOU WANT US TO CONTINUE TO HOLD THOSE UNTIL -- >> I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED A 
          LITTLE TIME TO FIGURE OUT. WE KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING. >> DESTRUCTION, TWO YEARS -- 
          >> IS THAT HOW LONG -- >> I DON'T KNOW THE RETENTION SCHEDULE BUT TARA GENERALLY 
          KNOWS. >> SINCE WE TOOK CUSTODY WE CAN HOLD CUSTODY. 
          >> MOVING FORWARD WE'LL SEE. YES. ANYTHING MOVING FORWARD WOULD BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY. PREVIOUS IS STILL YOURS. YOU TOOK THEM, YOU HAVE CUSTODY. 
          >> SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT. >> OH NO NO NO. >> I WILL, WE WILL. 
          >> CAN WE MAKE THAT MOTION PENDING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNTY JUDGE TO FORMULATE AN ALTERNATE PLAN AND BRING TO THE COURT HOW SHE WANTS TO HANDLE IT? AND THEN -- OR IF YOU HAVE GOT -- IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO DO NOW? 
          >> I JUST THINK WE TRANSFER IT BACK. I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD PLAN. 
          I THINK I HAVE THE FACILITY TO STORE IT LATER. BUT -- 
          >> THEN WE'RE GOING TO TRANSFER IT BACK TO THE COURT AND DESIGNATE THE COUNTY JUDGE AS 
          THE CUSTODIAN OF THE RECORD? BECAUSE THAT HAS TO BE -- >> I'M DESIGNATED ALREADY. 
          >> I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME. I DON'T KNOW THE LAW. 
          I DON'T KNOW. >> I ASSIGN THE ENVELOPE ALL OF THAT EVERY TIME. 
          YES, YES. SO I'LL JUST KEEP IT INSTEAD OF HANDING IT OFF TO HER. 
          YES YES. >> OKEY-DOKE, LONG AS YOU GOT IT COVERED JUDGE. 
          I KNOW THAT YOU DO. >> SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS AND TRANSFER IT 
          BACK. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, AYE. THANK YOU. 
          EXCEPT FOR NOT FOR TODAY. IF WE HAVE TO RECORD, I DON'T HAVE A RECORDER YET. 
          >> THEY'RE $30. >> I LOOKED ON AMAZON ALREADY. ITEM NUMBER 10 DISCUSS AND 
          [10.  Discuss and consider revising or adopting a policy for regular written reviews by the Commissioners Court of department heads that report to the Commissioners Court, and related matters.]
CONSIDER REVISING OR ADOPTING A POLICY FOR REGULAR WRITTEN REVIEWS BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT REPORT TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND RELATED MATTERS. 
          >> AGAIN JUDGE THIS WAS A DISCUSSION ITEM TO GET THE INPUT FROM THE COURT. 
          WE, TO MY KNOWLEDGE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE EVER HAD A POLICY WHERE A REGULARLY SCHEDULED DEPARTMENT HEAD REVIEW SITUATION AND I JUST THINK AS -- I MEAN WE NEED TO DO THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. AND WE SHOULD DO THEM AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR I WOULD THINK OR MAYBE WE COULD DIRECT THE HR DIRECTOR TO COME BACK WITH A SUGGESTED PLAN IF THE COURT THINKS THAT'S A GOOD IDEA TO REGULARLY REVIEW. 
          >> WE HAD DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE, WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THESE WEREN'T DONE, AND WE HAD TALKED ABOUT BRINGING THEM TO COURT TO TWO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT HEADS MAYBE PER MEETING TO GET THEM IN ANNUALLY BUT BECAUSE OF THE BUDGETING AND COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AND MAJOR ISSUES THAT HAVE GONE ON THIS HAS FAILED TO GET ADDED TO LENGTHY MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY HAD. BUT I THINK SINCE THAT TIME HAS PASSED THIS TIME OF YEAR IS PROBABLY A GREAT TIME OF YEAR TO MOVE TOWARD WITH THAT, WITH THE HELP OF THE HR DIRECTOR. 
          SO. IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING MR. KOLEY. 
          >> YES JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. WITH THE INTEGRATION OF WORKDAY, WE WILL THAT WILL BE THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION SYSTEM WILL BE BUILT INTO OUR PROGRAM WHERE THAT WILL BE CONDUCTED ANNUALLY. BY ALL DEPARTMENTS AND ALL EMPLOYEES. 
          >> BUT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE THE ONES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT REPORT TO THE COURT. 
          YES. >> ABSOLUTELY. SO THAT WILL BE BUILT INTO OUR SYSTEM ANNUALLY. AND WE CAN DETERMINE WHATEVER DATE THE COURT WOULD LIKE FOR 
          THAT TO OCCUR. BUT THAT WILL BE BUILT IN. >> IT WILL BE BUILT INTO -- WHAT 
          WILL BE BUILT IN, TELL ME THAT AGAIN? >> THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION PROCESS. WE'LL BE DOING IT CONSISTENTLY EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST ACROSS 
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          THE COUNTY. >> FOR ALL EMPLOYEES? >> ALL EMPLOYEES INCLUDING 
          DEPARTMENT HEADS. >> IS THAT A NEW POLICY? I DON'T KNOW -- 
          >> PARK OF WORKDAY. >> PART OF WORKDAY THE INTEGRATION. 
          BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO DEVELOP A POLICY ON THAT I CAN. RIGHT NOW POLICY STATES THAT IT IS RECOMMENDED BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ENSURE THAT IT IS DONE CONSISTENTLY. 
          >> I THINK ALL DEPARTMENT HEAD OUGHT TO BE EVALUATING THEIR EMPLOYEES AND EVERY WEEK WE SHOULD BE EVALUATING EVERYONE THAT WORKS FOR US. ALL I'M ADDRESSING TODAY IS THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT REPORT TO US. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT IS A PRETTY COMMON STANDARD THING IN HR IN THIS WORLD IS HAVE WRITTEN EVALUATIONS AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE IT. WE GOT TO LEAD BEFORE WE CAN EXPECT OTHERS TO DO THE SAME THING SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOMETHING TODAY THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO DO IT ONCE A YEAR OR WHATEVER. BUT I'D LIKE TO PASS SOMETHING THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO EVALUATE, I MEAN IF WE CAN, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING, SOME DIRECTION TO SAY WE WANT A SPECIFIC THING FOR COMMISSIONERS COURT, LET'S DO THAT ONE FIRST. I STRONGLY AGREE THAT ALL EMPLOYEES OUGHT TO BE EVALUATED ON A REGULAR BASIS. WHATEVER REGULAR MEANS IN A 
          WRITTEN FORM. I MEAN -- >> YES. 
          IN PRACTICE. NORMALLY WE WOULD DO IT IN A PROBATIONARY PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS AND THEN THERE WOULD BE AN ANNUAL EVALUATION POSITIVE ALL EMPLOYEES. 
          IF YOU WANT TO DO ANNUAL FOR THE APPOINTED OFFICIALS WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL BUT WE CAN DO A SIX 
          MONTH AND A ONE YEAR. >> I THINK ANNUAL IS THE PREFERRED START. 
          >> SIX MONTHS AS WELL THAT'S TOUGH. >> BY THE TIME WE DO ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WE'LL BE STARTING OVER, YES, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE US 
          COORDINATING OR BEING HERE OR DOING IT AT A COURT DATE. >> I THINK WE WOULD -- WE'RE ALMOST THROUGH THIS YEAR, THE CLIRND YEAR. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO DO IT ON A -- YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A CALENDAR YEAR NOT OUR FISCAL YEAR. 
          >> YES. >> I THINK WE SHOULD START THIS JANUARY 1. 
          >> CALENDAR YEAR NOT FISCAL YEAR, SORRY. >> RIGHT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO 
          DO IT ON A CALENDAR YEAR RIGHT? >> THAT'S CORRECT YES. >> IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY THE GET SOME UNIFORMITY, WE COULD START THIS IN JANUARY AND WE WOULD CHARGE THE HR DIRECTOR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO IT. LIKE SO THAT WE DON'T FORGET. I MEAN WE HAVE A LOT OF STUFF ON OUR PLATE AND IT'S AN HR MATTER. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ ANY THOUGHTS? 
          WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> I AGREE WITH THAT. >> CONSIDER IT DONE. 
          >> I MEAN YOU GOT TO BE ANNUALLY, NOT SIX MONTHS. >> WE AGREED, ONLY ANNUAL. 
          LOOKS LIKE A GOOD START. AND I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION OR SECOND YOUR MOTION IF YOU'RE 
          CHARGE WITH THAT. >> RIGHT. >> AND -- CHARGING HR WITH THAT. 
          >> MAYBE IT'S AS SIMPLE AS WE JUST SAY WE WANT TO DO IT ONCE A YEAR FOR DEPARTMENT HEADS AND WE DIRECT THE HR DIRECTOR TO REMIND US AND GET US GET THESE FOLKS SCHEDULED. 
          I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT. ANYBODY GOT ANY IDEAS? I MEAN I'M -- 
          >> THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED -- >> THEN YOU WOULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR WHOEVER IS -- WE ARE GOING TO INTERVIEW THEN, YOU WOULD HAVE THEM ON THE AGENDA, WE WOULD DO IT IN EXECUTIVE 
          FOR -- YES. >> I'M SORRY, STEPPED OUT FOR A LITTLE BIT. 
          JUST WANTED TO GET IT STRAIGHT. THIS WOULD BE AN ANNUAL EVALUATION? 
          >> YES. >> BECAUSE WE HAVE LIKE 21 DEPARTMENT HEADS AND MORE WE'D HAVE TO SCHEDULE IT TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE BY THE MONTH OF JANUARY. 
          SO IT COULD ALL BE DONE -- >> 21 DEPARTMENT HEADS REPORT TO US? 
          >> AT LEAST THE ONES THAT COME TO COURT. >> 21 DEPARTMENT HEADS? 
          >> THAT'S WHAT I COUNT. >> MAN WE HAVE TOO MANY -- ANYWAY, OKAY. 
          >> JUDGE I HAVE ONE QUESTION. DOES IT INCLUDE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE UNDER THE JUDGES? 
          >> THIS WOULD BE ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS, WE NEED TO EVALUATE EVERYONE, YES. 
          >> I WOULDN'T ARE ABLE TO EVALUATE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. >> THAT WOULD JUST BE MINE. 
          >> I DON'T DEAL WITH -- I MEAN THAT'S -- SO IT WOULD BE -- MY THOUGHT WOULD BE ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT REPORT NOT ELECTED OFFICIALS. I'M NOT SAYING OBVIOUSLY BUT DEPARTMENT HEADS, ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT REPORT TO US, WE WOULD DO AN ANNUAL EVALUATION ON 
          THEIR JOB PERFORMANCE. >> WELT I THINK WE COULD EVALUATE EVERYONE AND JUST LET THEM -- LET THE PEOPLE THEY'RE UNDER, WHAT WE THINK, THAT'S ONE WAY OF LETTING THEM KNOW HOW WE THINK ABOUT THEIR DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE UNDER THEM. THAT WROTE GET AN IDEA HOW WE 
          FEEL. >> ALL THE REST OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE UNDER THE WHOLE COURT. THERE IS ONLY ONE DEPARTMENT HEAD SURFACE UNDER THE JUDGE AND 
          THAT'S EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. >> THEN THE OTHER TWO. THE ONES THAT ARE UNDER THE 
          JUDGES? >> THAT IS ONLY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, ONLY ONE. 
          >> I'M TALKING ABOUT DISTRICT JUDGES. >> DISTRICT JUDGES, OH NO WE 
          HAVE NO SAY IN THE ELECTED OFFICIALS. >> JURISDICTION OVER THEM? 
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          >> NO. >> BUT THEY HAVE AN IDEA WHAT WE THINK ABOUT. 
          >> I DON'T THINK ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO EVALUATE THEIR EMPLOYEES. 
          >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. >> BECAUSE THEY HAVE SUPERVISORY ROLES OVER THEM AND THAT IS 
          THEIR DEPARTMENT NOT OURS. >> THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING, I WAS GOING TO INCLUDE THOSE. 
          >> SO IF WE HAVE 21 THEN EVERY YEAR MIGHT BE TOO AGGRESSIVE MANY TO TRY TO DO THAT. 
          BUT I STILL WANT -- >> WE NEED TO TRY EVERY YEAR. >> WE HAVE TO PLAN IT IN ADVANCE 
          SO IT'S DONE BY THE SCHEDULED DATE. >> GOOD STAGGER THEM, THREE AT A 
          MEETING, MAKE THEM QUICK. >> HOW THEY WANT TO EVALUATE THEIR OWN PEOPLE, THAT WOULD NOT BE US. TODAY'S DISCUSSION IS PURELY THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT REPORT TO 
          US. >> THAT IS THE DOCUMENT HE IS WORKING ON THE PROCESS FOR WORKDAY WHERE IT'S UNIFORM ACROSS ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THEIR ASSESSMENT AND EVALUATION. 
          >> THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TODAY, THAT IS NOT MY DISCUSSION. 
          I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S A -- WE'LL BRING THAT FOR ANOTHER DAY BUT FOR ME LET'S, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE COME UP WITH A EVALUATION SYSTEM WHERE WE TRY TO EVALUATE OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS WHO ROWRT TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT ONCE A YEAR AND HAVE THE HR DIRECTOR FACILITATE THAT AND 
          PUT THOSE ON AS NEEDED STARTING JANUARY 1ST OF 2024. >> I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. 
          DESTINY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. 
          >> WHO UPDATES OUR COURT POLICIES, BECAUSE WE HAVE THOSE COURT POLICIES. 
          THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ON THERE. IS THAT JERCHLY? >> THAT WOULD BE THE ATTORNEYS. 
          >> PROBABLY JENNY Y'ALL HAVE THAT DOCUMENT? >> YES WE CAN UPDATE IT. 
          OUR OFFICE WILL AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 11 DISCUSS AND 
          [11.  Discuss and consider a narrowing and selection process for all qualified employees that report directly to the commissioners court, and related matters.]
CONSIDER NARROWING SELECTION PROCESS FOR ALL QUALIFIED EMPLOYEES THAT REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT ONE, GRANT, THAT'S YOURS. 
          >> SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, AS REGARDS TO THE PROCESS OF HOW WE PICK PEOPLE WHO REPORT TO US. AND WHAT WE'VE DONE INFORMALLY HAS BEEN KIND OF WHAT I DESCRIBED EARLIER FOR THE BOARDS WHICH WAS WE GET ALL THE APPLICANTS, THE HR QUALIFIES THEM, SENDS THEM TO US, WE PICK OUR TOP TWO, WHOEVER GETS TWO OR MORE VOTES GETS AN INTERVIEW AND THEN WE HAVE AN INTERVIEW. THAT'S HOW WE'VE BEEN DOING IT BUT IT'S BEEN INFORMAL. 
          >> IS THIS FOR OPEN POSITIONS FOR EMPLOYEES LIKE WHEN WE HIRE AT HR? 
          >> NO DEPARTMENT HEADS. >> DEPARTMENT HEADS? >> ONLY PEOPLE THAT REPORT TO US. BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY A PROCESS IF PLACE FOR -- 
          >> IF THE DEPARTMENT HEAD POSITION BECOMES OPEN AND HAS TO BE REPLACED THIS WOULD BE THE 
          PROCESS FOR THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE. >> CORRECT. 
          SORRY IF I DIDN'T MAKE THAT CLEAR. BUT YEAH THAT WOULD BE, IT'S 
          JUST FORMALIZING WHAT WE'VE BEEN I DOING INFORMALLY. >> WHEN WE ADOPT THE PROCESS FOR 
          THE OTHER. >> FORMALIZING WHAT WE DO INFORMALLY. 
          WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING FOR SEVERAL YEARS BUT WE DON'T HAVE IT FORMALIZED. 
          >> WE HAVE THIS TABLED TO THE 11TH SO I ASSUME THIS WOULD NEED TO BE TABLED UNTIL WE HAVE 
          THE FOLLOW READY? >> THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER ONE JUDGE, THIS IS FOR 
          EMPLOYEES, THE OTHER IS FOR BOARDS. >> I THOUGHT YOU WANTED TO 
          FOLLOW THE SAME PROCEDURE. >> THIS IS DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE ALREADY DOING, JUST FORMALIZING IT. THEY WANTED MORE INPUT ON THE BOARDS. 
          THIS IS HOW WE HAVE BEEN DOING. I DON'T KNOW I'M THROWING IT OUT THERE IF NOBODY WANTS TO -- SO 
          DOES ANYBODY HAVE NIS OBJECTION HOW WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT? >> FOR DEPARTMENT HEADS? 
          >> CORRECT. >> I GUESS WE HAVEN'T -- OTHER THAN HR I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE HIRED ANYBODY ELSE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, HAVE WE? CORRECT ME ANYBODY. 
          OH YES YES, THAT'S THREE, GOOD POINT. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE WAY WE'VE BEEN DOING IT AN FORMALIZING THAT PROCESS. I THINK MR. GONZALEZ WERE YOU 
          WANTING TO SAY SOME? >> I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED HERE ON THIS -- 
          >> I THINK THE PROCESS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BRENT WAS WHERE WE ALL GOT THE APPLICATIONS AND WE REVIEWED THEM, WE PICKED TWO, WE SEND IT BACK TO HR AND THEY SET UP THE 
          INTERVIEWS FOR US, JUST LIKE WE DID -- >> FOR NEW HIRES. 
          >> I KNOW ON THE NEW HIRE OTHER THAN SOMEONE MOVING THIS. >> RIGHT AND YOU COULD EVEN SAY, THERE COULD BE SOME JOB APPLICATION WHERE YOU HAVE 20 APPLICATIONED AN THE NUMBER COULD BE TOP THREE, THERE COSH A SCALE THERE TOO. BUT AGAIN JUST TRYING TO PUT IN 
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PLACE SOMETHING SO THE WORLD KNOWS HOW WE'RE DOING IT, THE APPLICANTS KNOW HOW WE'RE DOING IT, I THINK THE WORLD IS OKAY WITH HOW WE'VE BEEN DOING IT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR 
          A WHILE. >> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. 
          >> DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? COMMISSIONER MAREZ DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WARRANT TO ADD ON 
          THAT? >> NO. -- WANT TO ADD ON THAT? 
          >> NO. >> WE DON'T HAVE TO, WE CAN TABLE IT. 
          >> I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT TOO CLEAR ON THIS. >> OKAY THEN LET ME JUST MAKE A 
          MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL OCTOBER 8TH AND I'LL PUT IT -- >> OCTOBER 11TH. 
          >> SORRY OCTOBER 11TH. AND I'LL PUT THAT IN SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, WRITTEN FORM THAT SHOWS EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, AND JUST LIKE I SAID, JUST FORMALIZING WHAT WE'VE BEEN 
          DOING. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO TABLE TO THE OCTOBER 11TH MEETING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN? THE MOTION PASSES. 
          [12.  Discuss and consider approving order designating Wednesday as the day of the week that Court will meet in regular term for fiscal year 2023-2024, pursuant to Section 81.005 of the Texas Local Government Code.]
ITEM NUMBER 12, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING ORDER DESIGNATING WEDNESDAY AS THE DAY OF THE WEEK THAT THE COURT WILL MEET IN REGULAR TERM FOR FISCAL YEAR 23-24. 
          I'LL MAKE THE MOTION, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN MEETING ON. I THINK IT WORKS OUT FOR 
          EVERYONE. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED SAME SIGN? THE MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER 13, DISCUSS AND 
          [13.  Discuss and consider upcoming Commissioners Court meeting date(s), workshop date(s), and related matters.]
CONSIDER UPCOMING COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING DATES, WORKSHOP DATES AND REMITTED MATTERS. 
          I BELIEVE IT IS IN YOUR PACKET THE DAYS COMING UP ABOUT. >> OCTOBER THE 11TH. 
          >> YES, OCTOBER THE 11TH IS THE NEXT ONE. >> SO MOVED. 
          >> WE -- I DON'T THINK -- I GUESS WE DON'T -- SORRY, I WAS FIXING TO DO THE SAME. 
          COMMISSIONER YES EXACTLY. SO EVERYONE'S FINE WITH THAT. NO CHANGES. 
          WE'RE GOOD. ITEM NUMBER 14. THIS IS ON THE AGENDA AND WE 
          [14.  Discuss and consider whether, pursuant to Texas Government Code, 551.0725, deliberation in an open meeting would have a detrimental effect on amending the personal services contract being negotiated between the County and Tomas Duran pursuant to Section 174, Texas Local Gov't Code, and related matters, based on recommendation of Count Attorney.]
WILL BE TAKING IT IF YOU ALL CHOOSE TO, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER WHETHER PURSUANT TO TEXT GOVERNMENT CODE 551.0725, DELIBERATION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD HAVE A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT ON AMENDING THE PERSONALITY SERVICES CONTRACT BEING NEGOTIATED BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND TOMAS DURAN, PURSUANT TO SECTION 174. THIS ITEM HERE WOULD BE TO TAKE IT TO EXECUTIVE. I WOULD NEED A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO COMMISSIONER MAWRZ, TAKE IT INTO 
          EXECUTIVE, BECAUSE OF A MONETAR- >> IF THERE IS GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION OF THE FINANCIAL SOME CRICONTRACTUAL ISSUES, IF YOU FD IT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE COIJTD TO HAVE DISCUSSION IN OPEN. IF YOU HAVE JUST LEGAL ISSUES, NORMAL ATTORNEY CLIENT DISCUSSION FINANCIAL ASPECTS OF THE CONTRACT WOULD REQUIRE THAT VOTE. 
          IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT BACK. >> I HAVE SOME LEGAL QUESTIONS JAMIE SO I WOULD LIKE THIS IN 
          EXECUTIVE. >> OKAY I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO -- 
          >> DOES THAT HAVE TO BE UNANIMOUS? BECAUSE I DON'T NEED TO DISCUSS THE NUMBERS. OKAY RIGHT. THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A VOTE. 
          >> CORRECT. >> I'M SORRY JUDGE. >> THAT'S OKAY. 
          SO I WILL JUST PULL THAT FOR EXECUTIVE. YES. 
          [1.  Discuss and consider authorizing and approving an Omnia Partners Cooperative Contract No. R200502, for $57,659.96 with ThyssenKrupp Elevator (TKE) for labor and material needed to repair Nueces County Jail Elevators No. 7 & No. 8.]
MOVING ON TO ITEM B, PUBLIC WORKS. ITEM WURNL, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING AN OMNIA PARTNERS COOPERATIVE CONTRACT. 
          MR. PIMENTEL IS THERE. THIS WAS APPROVED BACK IN JULY I BELIEVE THE PAYMENT OR THE THIS, 
          THE ELEVATORS HAVE BEEN FINE. >> YES, MA'AM. THIS WAS AN EMERGENCY REPAIR YES, MA'AM FOR 7 AND 8 SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT. 
          >> MOVE. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED SAME SIGN. 
          FTC THE MOTION PASSES. COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, MAREZ I'M 
          SORRY. >> SHE NEEDS TO SEE HIS FACE. >> YOU CAN'T VOTE WITHOUT YOUR FACE COMMISSIONER, HE MAY BE AT HI EVENT, HE WILL BE BACK, WE WILL SHOW HIM NOT VOTING. 
          HE MUST HAVE STEPPED AWAY. ITEM NUMBER 2, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER GRANTING AMERICAN 
          [2.  Discuss and consider granting to American Electric Power (AEP) an easement and right-of-way across a portion of the Nueces County Precinct 4 Yard property located at 5655 Bush Street, Corpus Christi, Texas 78417.]
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ELECTRIC POWER AND EASEMENT AND RIGHT-OF-WAY ACROSS A PORTION OF NUECES COUNTY PRECINCT 4 YARD 
          AND PROPERTY. >> THIS IS TO PROVIDE SERVICE FOR THE MOBILE CLINIC DURING NONOPERATION TO KEEP IT CONTINUE CONTINUOUSLY POWERED. FTC. 
          >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, AYE, ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. 
          THANK YOU. IS MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER 3, DISCUSS AND 
          [3.  Discuss and Consider Authorizing and Approving an ARPA-Funded Sourcewell Cooperative (Contract No. 032119-CAT) Purchase from Holt Texas, Inc. for (1) one Caterpillar RM400 Road Reclaimer for Department of Public Works in the amount of $731,868.43.]
CONSIDER AUTHORIZATION AN APPROVING ARPA FUNDED SOURCE, COOIVE CONTRACT PURCHASED FROM 
          HOLT, THIS IS FOR CATERPILLAR -- >> YES, RECOMMENDING THE APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT. 
          THIS IS FOR A ROAD RECLAIMER. >> THIS WAS APPROVED WHEN ARPA FUNDING WAS DESIGNATED FOR THIS 
          PURCHASE AND EQUIPMENT AS WELL. >> SO. >> WE HAVE A MOTION, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. OR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, I'M SORRY? 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, AYE, ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. >> THANK YOU JUDGE? 
          [1.  Discuss and consider conditional selection of Jack and Jill of Many Trades for Mowing Services for Nueces County Airport (RFP No. 3246-23).]
          COMMISSIONERS, APPRECIATE IT. >> MOVING ON TO ITEM C PURCHASINGS. 
          , SELECTION OF JACK AND JILL OF MANY YES, JUNEL. 
          OF JACK AND JILL OF MANY TRADES FOR THE MOWING SERVICES. 
          >> I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT. 
          >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          >> AYE. >> ANY OTHER POSED SAME SIGN 
          [2.  Discuss and consider authorizing and approving execution of an Engagement Letter agreement with Pattillo, Brown & Hill, L.L.P. for RFP No. 3242-23 Auditing Services Contract for audits to be performed on the Nueces County financial statements, Sheriff's Commissary, and MPO Grants.]
MOTION PASSES. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER EXECUTION OF AN ENGAGEMENT LETTER AGREEMENT FOR AUDITING SERVICES 
          CONTRACT. >> YES. 
          THE COURT CONDITIONALLY SELECTED HILL LLP FOR AUDITING SERVICES AND THIS IS THE ENGAGEMENT LETTER DOCUMENT. 
          >> YES. >> I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. ALL IN FAVOR. 
          >> AYE. >> OPPOSED SAME SIGN. 
          [3.  Discuss and consider approval of Amendment No. 2 to the Agreement with Crowder Gulf, LLC for Disaster Debris Removal Services (RFP No. 3171-21).]
          >> MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. 
          >> ITEM THREE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO TO THE AGREEMENT WITH CROWDER GOLF LLC FOR DISASTER DEBRIS REMOVAL SERVICES. THIS IS NUMBER TWO OF THE FOUR 
          ONE YEAR RENEWAL. >> CORRECT. 
          THIS IS A PREPOSITIONING CONTRACT THAT GOES INTO EFFECT IF WE HAVE A DISASTER. MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE 
          >> SECOND. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? 
          >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. 
          >> ANY OPPOSED SAME SIGN MOTION PASSES. 
          [1.  Discuss and consider authorizing the execution of a Participating Entity Services Agreement for the Statewide Automated Victim Notification Service (SAVNS) with Appriss Inc.]
          THANK YOU. >> ITEM D. 
          GRANTS. ITEM 1. 
          DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF PARTICIPATING ENTITY SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR THE SATE WIDE AUTOMATED VICTIM NOTIFICATION SERVICE. IT'S PAID FOR BY THE ATTORNEY 
          GENERAL'S OFFICE. >> IT'S ONGOING EVERY -- 
          >> I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. NIGH DISCUSSION? 
          >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. 
          >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED SAME SIGN. 
          [2.  Discuss and consider approval of an Interlocal Agreement between Nueces County and the Community Supervision and Corrections Department in relation to the Veterans Treatment Court.]
MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. 
          >> ITEM TWO. YOU'RE NOT LEAVING YET. 
          DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY TO VETERAN TREATMENT COURT. 
          >> WE RECEIVED A GRANT FOR THE VETERANS TREATMENT COURT FROM THE TEXAS COMMISSION AND PART OF THAT CONTRACT IS TO PAY SALARIES FOR THE GRANT MANAGER THAT HANDLES THE COURT AND THEN 50% SALARIES OF THE PROBATION OFFICER THAT IS PART OF THE COURT. AND WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE TREATMENT COURT. 
          >> THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL FEES TO THE COUNTY FOR THIS. 
          >> 50%, THE OTHER 50 PEEK IS PAID BY THE PROBATION OFFICE. 
          >> PAID THROUGH THE STATE AS WELL SO THERE'S NO COST TO THE 
          COUNTY. >> YES. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. >> AYE. 
          >> OPPOSED -- I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER. 
          YOU SAID AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED SAME SIGN MOTION 
          [1.  Discuss and consider approval of the Interlocal Agreement with Community Supervision and Corrections Department (CSCD) Pre-Trial Risk Assessment for the purposes of services and assistance to the Magistrates and the Nueces County District Courts and County Courts of Law to fulfill the additional duties required by Senate Bill 6.]
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          PASSES. >> MOVING ON TO ITEM E. 
          DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL WITH COMMUNITY SUPERVISION AND CORRECTIONS DEPARTMENT PRETRIAL RISK ASSESSMENT FOR THE PURPOSES OF SERVICES AND ASSISTANT TO THE MAGISTRATE AND THE DISTRICT COURT. THIS I UNDERSTAND IS PAID FOR THROUGH COURT ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT 3300. 
          >> THAT IS CORRECT. SEVERAL YEARS AGO THIS WAS STARTEDED WITH A GRANT AND WE'VE CONTINUED THE PROCESS TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THE JAIL NOW THE REQUIREMENT OF SENATE BILL 6 IS NEEDED TO CONTINUE THE SERVICES. 
          I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. 
          >> ANY OTHER POSED SAME SIGN. >> MOTION PASSES. 
          [2.  Authorize and approve removal of fixed assets that are no longer located in the departments.]
          >> ITEM TWO. AUTHORIZE AND APPROVAL REMOVAL OF FIXED ASSETS NO LONGER LOCATED IN THE DEPARTMENTS AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A LIST BEHIND YOU IN YOUR PACKET. 
          >> SEVERAL YEARS AGO THE COURT SR OFFICE TO DO AN INVENTORY REVIEW OF EVERYTHING WE HAD AND EVERY YEAR WE ASK EACH DEPARTMENT TO REVIEW THEIR FIXED AIS THES AND THERE ARE SOME USUALLY EVERY YEAR THAT COME ON. SOME ARE YOUR SMALL ITEMS LIKE RADIO AND SMALL TABLETS. WE'VE ASKED TO CONTINUE TO REVIEW AND MAKE SURE THEY LOCATE. 
          UNFORTUNATELY THEY CAN'T SO TO BE OFFICIALLY RECORDED FOR FIXED ASSETS WE'RE ASKING THESE ITEMS BE TEMPORARILY REMOVED FROM OUR FIXED ASSETS REPORT AND ITEMS BE FOUND WE'LL BRING THEM BACK TO BE RESTORE. THE TOTAL COST OF THE AMOUNT OF ASSETS WAS $237,667. THE LARGEST COMING FROM IT WHICH 
          WAS SEVERAL -- >> THAT'S QUITE A BIT OF MONEY. 
          DOES ANYBODY KNOW ANYTHING WHERE OR WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT? 
          >> WE HAVE TO DO A SEARCH. AT SOME POINT IN TIME THEY BRING IT BACK. UNFORTUNATELY AUDIO] IT'S THE DEPARTMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THIS. 
          >> WHEN I FIRST CAME IN THERE WAS TALKS ABOUT A LOT -- I DON'T RECALL THE NUMBER BUT QUITE A FEW TABLETS BEING MISSING. 
          >> AND THERE ARE SEVERAL MISSING BUT MOST FOR I.T. ARE SERVICE. 
          >> SERVICE WHAT DO YOU MEAN. >> SERVERS. 
          I SEE PUBLIC WORKS, RADIOS IN VEHICLES. 
          >> DAMAGED OR GET LOST. IT HAPPENS. 
          >> I CAN NAPPED WHEN THINGS GET DAMAGED AND PUT THEM DOWN AS DAMAGED OR WHATEVER BUT MISPLACED OR MISSING AND THERE'S NO ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THEM AND IT TURNS INTO QUITE A BIT OF MONEY. MAYBE IT IS GOOD THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS EVALUATION FOR THIS DEPARTMENT HEAD. 
          CAN YOU FIND IT AND THE ASSET WAS ON THE BOTTOM. 
          >> SEEMS WHEN THEY LOOK FOR SOMETHING THEY MAKE A THOROUGH 
          LOOK. >> WE TELL THEM THEY HAVE TO HAVE A THOROUGH LOOK AND THIS IS A LOT. 
          I UNDERSTAND. THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT BUT IT'S GETTING LESS AND LESS EVERY TIME WE DO THIS. 
          IT'S GETTING BETTER AND ONCE WORD COMES IN WE'LL HAVE A BETTER WAY OF PUTTING THEM TO LOCATIONS. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. 
          >> ANY OPPOSED. COMMISSIONER IF YOU ARE WATCHING WE HAVE TO SEE YOUR FACE TO VOTE. 
          UNLESS YOU HAVE WALKED AWAY. 
          [3.  Approve Budget Change Order No. 22 for Fiscal Year 2022-2023.]
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          WE'RE GOOD. >> ITEM THREE APPROVE BUDGET CHANGE ORDER NUMBER TWO FOR FISCAL YEAR 2223. 
          >> THIS IS A VERY LARGE CHANGE ORDER. 
          THREE OR FOUR MONTHS UNTIL THE LAST PROPERTY. 
          SO SOME ARE REQUESTING MONEY TO MOVE AROUND OVER TIME AND IN OTHER CASES TO GET THEIR BUDGETSES CLEARED UP AND SOME OF THIS WILL DO THAT. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE AND I KNOW OUR OFFICES GOT A NOTIFICATION ON THE LAST MINUTE THEY NEEDED TO BE TURNED IN SO I'LL ACCEPT A SECOND. 
          >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          >> AYE. >> OPPOSED. 
          [4.  Approve Capital Budget Change Order No. 124.]
          >> MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR. APPROVE CAPITAL BUDGET CHANGE 
          ORDER NUMBER 124. >> I'M ON THIS COMING FROM COMMISSIONER PRECINCT THREE FUNDS TO COVER SOME FOUNDATION. 
          MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. 
          >> MOTION AND SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? 
          >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. 
          >> ANY OPPOSED? >> SAME SIGN MOTION PASSES. 
          [1.  Discuss and consider transferring the Nueces County Commissioner Court Manager position including revising the job description, duties and job title; and other related matters.]
ITEM F 1 IS NOT GOING TO BE TRANSFERRING ANYTHING AND WE ARE -- PLEASED AND SADDENED TO ANNOUNCE THAT OUR COURT MANAGER HAS ACCEPTED A COMBRAET JOB OFFER WITH THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND WE APPRECIATE HER IS HE YEARS OF SERVICE HERE WITH THE COUNTY AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING CONTINUING TO WORK WITH HER THROUGH THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND THE JOB DUTIES THAT WE ALL WORK CLOSELY TOGETHER WITH ANY WAY. 
          SO CONGRATULATIONS. AND GOOD LUCK. 
          SHE'S REALLY HELPED A LOT FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE DON'T KNOW BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK HER FOR ALL THE WORK SHE DID FOR US AND WE'RE TAKING THE JOB AT THE BEGINNING AND I KNOW SHE WAS TOUGH BUT SHE TACK IT AND SHE RAN WITH IT AND DIDN'T COMPLAIN. AND BUT I WANTED TO TELL HER THAT THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR THE COUNTY AND THE COURT ADMINISTRATION. YOU WILL BE MISSED BY A LOT OF 
          US HERE. >> WE'LL STILL BE WORK WITH YOU. 
          >> WITH YOU WE'RE NOT GETTING RID OF YOU. 
          WE'RE SFIL GOING TO BE CONNECTED. 
          I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THEY SAW YOUR SKILLS FOR WHOEVER AND THINK THAT -- YOU'RE GOING TO DO GOOD AND BE HELPFUL TO THE 
          HOSPITAL DISTRICT. >> I WANT TO SAY THE SAME THING. 
          APPRECIATE YOUR WORK. YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. 
          YOU HAVE THE DOING PINGED BACK ON TRACK WITH YOUR HELP. 
          MY STRONGEST HOPE. BECAUSE THAT'S WHY I DON'T KEEP A CHECKBOOK BUT REALLY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR US AND HOSPITAL DISTRICT WILL SOON FIND OUT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE A GOOD ASSET TO THEM. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD W ESPECIALLY DURING THE LAST 
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ADMINISTRATION. THAT WAS A DIFFICULT TIME FOR ALL OF US AND YOU YOU WERE LIKE THE DAM. 
          YOU KIND OF HELD THE WATER OUT FROM FLOODING THE WHOLE PLACE DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME AND IT'S APPRECIATED AND IT WAS A HARD SPOT TO BE IN AND I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ AND GONZALES. I THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU AT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GREAT CAREER MOVE. 
          THEY'RE A VERY STRONG ORGANIZATION AND LIKE THE JUDGE SAID YOU'RE STILL GOING TO BE WORKING WITH US AND WE WISH YOU NOTHING BUT THE BEST AND APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> AND THERE IS NO ACTION TO TAKE ON THAT. 
          [3.  Discuss and consider the title change of the newly adopted "Senior Accounting Asst. II" (Pay Group 15/01) positions for Department 1160 to "Records MGT Clerk II" (Pay Group 16/01), beginning October 1, 2023 for FY2023-2024.]
          WE ALREADY DID. >> I'M SORRY. 
          >> NO ACTION. >> ITEM TWO. 
          DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE TITLE CHANGE OF THE NEWLY ADOPTED SENIOR ACCOUNTANT ASSISTANT BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST AND THE PAY SCALE OF ALL OF THAT ON THERE WAS MISTAKE FROM OUR OFFICE THIS IS A TITLE CHANGE ONLY THE PAY SCALE CHANGE DURING 
          THE BUDGET. >> 
          >> SOMETHING WAS ADDED TO THIS ITEM THAT I DID NOT INCLUDE. 
          I KNOW YOU DIDN'T DO IT. I WASN'T YOU. 
          AND IT CAUSED AN UPROAR IN MY OFFICE BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO EMPLOYEES IN TREASURY THAT ARE SENIOR ACCOUNTING ASSISTANTS AND GET PAID AT AN 18 AND THE WAY THIS IS NOTICED IS THAT IT PAID IN A 15 AND THEY THOUGHT WE WERE DEMOTING THEM AND I SAID IT WAS A MISTAKE ON OUR PART AND WE ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY. 
          >> I WANT TO JUST FOR THE RECORD SO MY STAFF KNOWS IT WAS JUST A HUMAN ERROR. NOT A BIG DEAL. 
          NOBODY IS GETTING DEMOTED OVER IT. 
          SO WE JUST WANED THE NAME CHANGE I WOULD JUST W WITH THE COUNTY CLERK ON THIS. 
          NAME OF THE REQUIRED ACTION. >> YES. 
          AND I'LL MAKE THE MOTION 
          >> DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          >> ALL IN FAVOR -- >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? 
          [2.  Discuss and consider reclassification of two Heavy Equipment Operator positions in Dept 0180 - Coastal Parks and one Heavy Equipment Operator position in Dept 1397 - Veterans Cemetery.]
          >> ALL IN FAVOR. >> AYE. 
          >> I'M SORRY I SKIPPED OVER ITEM TWO GOING BACK DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE RECLASSIFICATION OF TWO HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATOR POSITIONS. WE FORGET TO LOOK WHETHER THERE'S DECISIONAL STAFF AND DEPARTMENTS AFFECTED. 
          THERE ARE THREE EMPLOYS AFFECTED. 
          ONE IN VETERANS CEMETERY. THE COASTAL PARKS HAVE SIGNIFICANT FUNDS TO PAY FOR THIS AT $12,000. 
          THE VETERANS CEMETERY IS PAID -- WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GET TO QUALIFY AT. SAME LEVEL AS THE APPROVAL OF 
          THE COURT DATE. >> AND THIS DIDN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT THEY WERE PARTICIPATING IN THE BUDGET CUTS AS WELL. THEY WERE STILL WELL UNDER THEIR 
          CUTS AND I CHECKED. >> SO COASTAL PARK HAS MONEY IN 
          THEIR BUDGET TO PAY FOR IT? >> YES. 
          >> WITH ALL THE CUTS THEY CAN COVER THIS WITH AN ADDITIONAL 
          $12,000. >> AND YOU CHECKED WITH SCOTT ON 
          THAT 124. >> AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE NOTED THIS IS ONE THAT WE DID REAL QUICK AND WE DIDN'T THINK 
          ABOUT THE LIKE PEOPLE -- >> DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS ANY OTHER -- THERE WAS ONLY THREE ADDITIONAL STAFF. 
          >> THIS GOES BACK TO THE WHOLE DISCUSSION WITH -- THAT WE HAD ON THE ATTORNEYS AND ALL THAT. IT'S THE SIMILAR THING. 
          WE HAVE TO TREAT LIKE PEOPLE THE SAME WAY. 
          WE SHOULD HAVE PAUSED AND SAID DOES THAT AFFECT ANYONE ELSE BECAUSE I KNOW JUAN CAME UP LAST MINUTE AND I GET IT. 
          NOBODY ELSE WAS DOING IT AND I UNDERSTAND IT. 
          SO, YEAH. AS LONG AS YOU'VE CHECKED WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THIS THIS AFFECTS BECAUSE THIS WAS NOT 
          THEIR REQUEST. >> I'VE GOT A CALL -- I DIDN'T DO THIS. I GOT IT. 
          I THINK IT'S A LIKE THING THAT WE HAVE TO DO IT SO THEY WEREN'T MAKING -- NOBODY WAS MAKING AN DIGGAL REQUEST. 
          >> THE PCN IS THE SAME FOR THESE DEPARTMENTS. 
          VETERANS CEMETERY IS PAID BY THE GLO. 
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          NO ONE MULTIOF THE GENERAL FUND. >> YES. 
          I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS. >> SECOND. 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          >> AYE. >> ANY OTHER POSED SAME SIGN. 
          [4.  Discuss and consider changing the position of Animal Services Coordinator from part-time to full-time, and related matters.]
          >> MOTION PASSES. ON ITEM 4 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CHANGING THE POSITION OF THE ANIMAL SERVICES COORDINATOR. 
          THIS SAYS FROM PART TIME TO FULL TIME. 
          SHE WAS INTERVIEWED FOR THE DIRECTOR POSITION. 
          WE CAME UP WITH THE COORDINATOR POSITION JUST FOR THE 90 DAY TRIAL WHEN SHE INTERVIEWED SHE WAS INTERVIEWED FOR THE DIRECTOR POSITION. HER 90 DAYS IS UP TODAY. 
          I WOULD SUGGEST AND I THINK COMMISSIONER GONZALES AND I BOTH HAVE MET WITH HER SEVERAL TIMES MY DAY HAS AS WELL AND WE MAKE THE MOTION TO OFFER HER THE FULL TIME POSITION AS THE DIRECTOR OF 
          THE AN -- >> I THINK THERE'S A SMALL CHANGE HERE. I BELIEVE IT WAS IN A PART TIME FULL TIME IT WAS TEMPORARY TO FULL TIME. 
          >> YES. >> YES. 
          >> SO MOVED. >> SHE'S WELL QUALIFIED AND HAS 
          DONE A GREAT JOB. >> ALL RIGHT. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          >> AYE. ANY OPPOSED SAME SIGN. 
          [1.  Discuss and consider authorizing and approving execution of Amendment 75 to Master Services Agreement under TASB BuyBoard State Contract No. 537-17 with Ricoh USA for fleet maintenance services and copy center labor.]
          MOTION PASSES. >> MOVING ON TO ITEM G. 
          I.T. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING EXECUTION OF AMENDMENT 75 TO THE MASTER SERVICE AGREEMENT. THIS IS FOR OUR PRINTERS AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE SEVERAL AMENDMENT 75 EVERY TIME WE CHANGE OUT A PRINTER WE HAVE TO HAVE AN AMENDMENT SOMETHING. 
          >> THIS IS AN ESCALATION ITEM HERE THAT THEY DO ANNUALLY IN THE MASTER AGREEMENT WHICH GOES BACK TO 2005. 
          IT'S THE REASON WE'RE AT 75 AMENDMENTS NOW. 
          SO THEY DO THIS ANNUALLY. IT WOULD BE I NICE -- 
          >> GREAT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCRUE. 
          >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? 
          >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. 
          >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED SAME SIGN. 
          MOTION PASSES. WOW. 
          DID INDUSTRY ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO GO BACK TO? BING. I THINK JUST EXECUTIVE SO -- 
          >> 17:30. WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT AFTER EXECUTIVE. YES. 
          FOR THE DOG BECAUSE THEY WON'T BE BACK UNTIL 1:30. 
          >> THANK YOU. 
          THE RETIREMENT. 
          DO WE HAVE TO DO A RECORDED THING FOR THIS FOR THE BECAUSE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING IS OFF OF HERE. 
          WE ALREADY DID THAT. >> I HAVE BEEN -- I RECEIVED COMMUNICATION FROM THE ATTORNEY THAT THERE ARE NO FINANCIALS IT'S ONLY LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR DISCUSSION IN EXECUTIVE. 
          >> BUT WE ALREADY APPROVED THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING SO WE CAN VOTE TO DO A CERTIFIED AGENDA RIGHT? 
          >> IF THE QUESTIONS ARE LEGAL WE CAN GO BACK BUT IF THEY'RE DOLLARS WE HAVE TO VOTE. I NEED TO CLARIFY BECAUSE THE COMMISSIONER WAS THE ONE WHO WANTED TO GO TO EXEC TIFF ON THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE LEGAL AND NOT DOLLARS BECAUSE IF THEY'RE DOLLARS WE HAVE TO DO IT OUT HERE. 
          BUT IF IT'S LEGAL WE CAN OR WE HAVE TO VOTE 5-0 TO TAKE IT 
          BACK. >> YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT 
          FINANCIAL -- >> MAYBE JUST TO BE SAFE. 
          >> LET'S VOTE TO TAKE IT BACK ANYWAY SO WE'RE COVERED AND THEN IF WE DON'T DO IT WE'LL BRING IT BACK OUT. 
          >> I THINK THAT'S SAFE. >> LET'S GO BACK TO THAT ITEM EYE STEM 14. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER WHETHER PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.0725 DELIBERATION OPEN 
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MEETING WOULD HAVE AN AFFECT ON AMENDING THE PERSONAL SERVICES CONTRACT SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE THAT TO EXECUTIVE. 
          I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. HE SAID ALL PRESENT. 
          HE'S HERE. 
          BUT HASTE NOT PRESENT NOW. >> NO. 
          WE'RE OKAY TO GO. OKAY.  GO AHEAD. 
          [4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.]
THEN WE'RE GOING TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          THE SKS OR SECTIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT AUTHORIZING THE SESSION WILL BE PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY OF THE GOVERNMENT 
          CODE -- >> OTHER MATTERS THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          UPON COMPLETION OF EXECUTIVE SESSION THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY IN AN OPEN SITUATION TAKE SUCH ACTION AS APPROPRIATE ON ITEMS DISCUSSED IN EXEC TIFF SESSION. 
          ITEM A THE CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AMENDING THE 2022-2023 PERSONAL SERVICES CONTRACT. 
          IT IS 11:27 AND WE ARE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE 
          [1.  Discuss and consider authorizing and approving the retirement and removal from County inventory, of Nueces County Constable Precinct 5 law enforcement K-9, “Arco”; authorize and approve agreement for the transfer of Arco to Nueces County Constable Precinct 5 Deputy Elliot Martinez; and all related matters.]
          [5. OPEN SESSION: Following Executive Session, the Commissioners Court will reconvene the Regular Meeting prior to taking any action(s) on matters considered in Executive Session.]
          >> 1:30 AND COMING PACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          ONE ITEM ON THERE BUT WE WILL COME BACK TO IT SINCE WE HAVE OUR GUEST OF HONOR THAT IS WITH US THAT HAS ARRIVED. 
          WE WILL MOVE TO A-1. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING AND IMPROVING THE RETIREMENT AND REMOVAL FROM COUNTY INVENTORY OF THE CONSTABLE PRECINCT 5 LAW ENFORCEMENT K-9, ARCO. 
          APPROVE THE AGREEMENT OF ARCO TO THE CONSTABLE PRECINCT 5, DEPUTY ELLIOTT MARTINEZ AND ALL RELATED MATTERS. 
          WE ARE HOPE THAT HAVE THIS THE QUICK CHANCE BEFORE WE GOT STARTED TO MEET ARCO AND THANKFUL FOR THE WORK THAT ARC, HAS PROVIDED TO THE COUNTY AS WELL AND I WILL ACCEPT A NOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE RETIREMENT REMOVAL. 
          >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. 
          >> FOR ARCO .WE'VE MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, SAY AYE. WE WOULD LIKE A PHOTO, IF WE 
          COULD. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WANT THE DOG AND PLAY WITH THE DOG FOR AT THAT WHILE -- 
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          >>JUDGE SCOTT: DOES TRICKS TOO. VERY WELL BEHAVED AND VERY WELL DESERVED RETIREMENT AND GLAD WE ARE ABLE TO -- 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS, JUDGE SCOTT. 
          AGAIN AS WE TALKED ABOUT, THE RETIREMENT OF ARCO. 
          HE HAS BEEN WITH THE DEPARTMENT FOR SIX YEARS -- APPROXIMATELY SIX YEARS. COUNTLESS -- I WILL SAY WITH HONESTY, THOUSAND OF TRAFFIC STOPS HE HAS BEEN ON. 
          NUMEROUS SCHOOLS. HUNDREDS OF SCHOOLS THROUGH THE YEARS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. SO HE HAS MET A LOT OF PEOPLE BOTH GOOD AND BAD. SO WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ARCO FOR THE SIX YEARS OF SERVICE HE HAS BROUGHT TO PRECINCT 5 ADMINISTRATION AND THE DEPARTMENT ITSELF. 
          I AM HAPPY THAT HE IS GOING TO HAVE A PERFECT HANDLER HE WILL GO HOME WITH PERMANENTLY. AND THANKS TO YOU IT GUYS. 
          I WILL -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: LOOKS LIKE  ARCO 
          IS PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. >> I WILL MOVE IT OVER TO ELLIOTT AND HE WILL TALK ABOUT ARCO AND HOW THE JOURNEY THE LAST SEVEN YEARS ACTUALLY THEY HAVE BEEN TOGETHER. 
          AGAIN, THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS, ELLIOTT. 
          JUDGE SCOTT. ARCO HAS BEEN WITH THE DEPARTMENT WITH SIX YEARS AND ASSISTED CORPUS CHRISTI POLICE DEPARTMENT, ROBSTOWN PD, BISHOP PATROL, HOMELAND SECURITY, WOODSBORO AND SEVERAL OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT I -- I CAN'T RECALL TO ARE WHATNOT. TWO BIGGEST POPS WERE FOUR KILOS OF HEROIN AND 100 POUNDS OF MARIJUANA. 
          ASSISTED BOAT PATROL SEVERAL TIMES AND ARCO IS A START DOG AND PICKED UP TRACKING ON HIS OWN. 
          HE TRIED IT OUT AND WE CONTINUED TO TRACK HIM. 
          WE GOT POPS WHEN WE DID ASSISTED BORDER PATROL. 
          NUMEROUS TRAFFIC STOPS. NUMEROUS HITS WHETHER IT IS SMALL, BIG, MEDIUM-SIZED LOADS OR WHATNOT. 
          >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: A HIT IS A HIT. 
          >> DID A GREAT JOB. WHEN YOU GUYS GAVE US THE DOG SIX YEARS AGO. YES, HE WILL BE GOING TO A GOOD HOME WITH ME. HE WILL RELAX. 
          HE WILL RETIRE. IT IS TIME -- 
          >>JUDGE SCOTT: THE STANDARD AGE FOR THEM TO STAY IN WITH WORKING OR SOMETHING? IS THAT -- 
          >> IT VARIES. >>JUDGE SCOTT: RETIREMENT AGE. 
          >> IT VARIES. IT VARIES. 
          >>JUDGE SCOTT: THAT IS PRETTY AWESOME. 
          >> THANK YOU -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: WOULD LIKE TO GET A PHOTO. I KNOW THE GIRLS -- . /* /*. 
          >> DOES HE SIT WHEN HE FINDS SOMETHING? 
          I HOPE HE DOESN'T SIT. >> WE ALL HAVE ISSUES. 
          [LAUGHTER] HE COMES OVER TO ME AND SITS. 
          >> HIS TOTAL AGE IS SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS OLD. 
          SO ON AVERAGE, K-9 NARCOTICS DOG TRAVEL TO SIX, SEVEN, SOMETIMES UP TO EIGHT OR NINE YEARS BASED ON THEIR HEALTH AND CONDITIONS. 
          HE HAS ONE ISSUE. A HEALTH ISSUE. 
          >> HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY ISSUE. >> I THOUGHT HE HAD SOMETHING. 
          >> HE HAD SURGERY TWO YEARS AGO. >> WE ARE WORKING ON IT AND SEE IF WE CAN REACH OUT AND TRY TO KEEP GOING WITH OUR DEPARTMENT. 
          >> CHIEF, CALL HIS NAME. >> ARCO. 
          ARCO. SITS. 
          ONE, TWO -- ONE, TWO, THREE. >> THAT WAS A GOOD ONE. 
          >> HE LIKES THAT. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: CAN'T KEEP HIM 
          OUTSIDE IN THIS HEAT. >> HE GETS LOST IN HIS 
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RESPONS RESPONSIBILITY. 
          >> GOOD BOY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE. GOOD JOB, ARCO. 
          >>>JUDGE SCOTT: DID WE VOTE ON THAT? 
          I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IT'S OKAY. I MISSED PART OF IT. 
          >> YOU CAN LET HIM LOUNGE UP HERE. 
          GOOD BOY. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: SO ITEM -- THE 
          [15.  Discuss and consider taking action on amending the 2022 – 2023 personal services contract with Tomas Duran for employee health insurance benefits management and consulting; and related matters.]
ONLY OTHER ITEM. WE HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM BECAUSE THE SAME AS 15. AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HAS A MOTION FOR OPEN SESSION FROM OUR EXECUTIVE 
          SESSION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YES, MA'AM, I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION THAT THE MATTERS RELATED TO ITEM 15 BE DELEGATED TO THE INSURANCE COMMITTEE MADE UP OF JUDGE SCOTT AND COMMISSIONER MAREZ AND OTHERS TO OVERSEE AND BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE MATTERS UNTIL WE PICK A NEW CONSULTANT. 
          >>>JUDGE SCOTT: UNTIL WE GO OUT FOR ANOTHER -- 
          >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IT IS ALREADY OUT. 
          >>>JUDGE SCOTT: STILL THE NEW ONE -- 
          >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: UNTIL WE PICK A NEW ONE. 
          IT HAS TO BE UNTIL WE PICK A NEW ONE. 
          >>JUDGE SCOTT: WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? I GUESS WE ALREADY DISCUSSED. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES I BELIEVE THAT WAS ALL THE ITEMS WE HAVE TO DO ON THE AGENDA. 
          WE HAVE -- ANY -- MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MISS ANYTHING, EVERYBODY. 
          [ Adjournment in Memory (upon request)]
OTHERWISE WE HAVE ANY ADJOURNMENTSES IN MEMORY? 
          >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DO, JUDGE. 
          >>JUDGE SCOTT: I DO ALSO. GO AHEAD. 
          YOU CAN BE FIRST. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WANTED TO READ -- WE MENTIONED THIS AT THE LAST MEET. 
          TO READ THE OBITUARY OF MR. AN VIEWS. 
          BORN IN ALEXIS, TEXAS AND BORN IN CORPUS CHRISTI. 
          HE GRADUATED FROM TEXAS STATE ALONG HIS HIGH SCHOOL SWEETHEART LANA. IN 1976, SAVED ENOUGH TO FULFILL THE LIFELONG TO OWN A BEER DISTRIBUTESHIP WITH MILLER. 
          AT 29, HE WAS THE YOUNGEST TO OWNER A DISTRIBUTESHIP. 
          HE WAS A FAMILY MAN AND FRIENDS. HIS SUCCESS WAS DRIVEN BY THE GOLDEN RULE OF TREATING PEOPLE HOW YOU WANTED TO BE TREATED AND HIS MOTTO WAS, PEOPLE MAKE IT HAPPEN. 
          HE LOVED PEOPLE. BUILT LIFE-LONG FRIENDSHIPS AND TO ACHIEVE PEOPLE BEYOND THEIR IMAGINATION. 
          HE TREASURED HIS FRIENDS AND NOTHING MADE HIM HAPPIER THAN PLANNING A PARTY THAN THE GENTLEMAN'S'S LUNCHEONS. 
          IF YOU ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO GO TO A GAME WITH BARRY, AN EXPERIENCE OF A LIFETIME. MILLER LIGHT IS THE ONLY BEER FOR THE DALLAS COWBOYS AND 30 YEARS AND COUNTING GAVE HIM GREAT JOY. HE BEGAN DISTRIBUTING, TWO BEER BRANDS AND A SMALL WAREHOUSE IN CORPUS CHRISTI. 
          BARRY GREW HIS BUSINESS WITH MILLERLIGHT AND EXPAND INTO DALLAS IN THE EARLY '80S. BARRY WITH AS A PIONEER OF PUTTING MULTIPLE BREWERS TOGETHER IN ONE WAREHOUSE WITH ONE COMBINED TEAM CREATING A BUSINESS MODEL MULTIBRANDED BEER DISTRIBUTOR WHICH IS NOW THE INDUSTRY STANDARD. 
          FOLLOWING CLOSE TO 20 ACQUISITIONS, HE DISTRIBUTES 1,000 BRANDS FROM FIVE LOCATIONS IN A ALLLEN, CORPUS CHRISTI AND FORT WORTH. TEAM MEMBERS CAN RECALL OVER AS THE COMPANY GREW, BARRY WOULD WALK AROUND THE OPERATIONS THREE 
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TIMES DAILY. HE NEVER FAILED TO REMEMBER TEAM MEMBERS SEA NAMES, ASKED AND TOLD STORIES AND GENERAL COMMITMENT. FAMILY AND PERSONAL CONNECTIONS WERE DEEPLY IMPORTANT TO BARRY AND THE KEY TO HIS SUCCESS. 
          BARRY LIVED AND GIVING BACK IS WHAT WE DO. 
          BY SUPPORTING HUNDREDS OF EVENTS HELPING SO MANY WORTHY CAUSE IN PEOPLE. MEMBER OF THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. AND HIGHLAND PARK METHODIST CHURCH. HE SUPPORTED CANCER RESEARCH THROUGH THE BALL IN CORPUS CHRISTI IN DALLAS, ALSO HOSTING THE CORPUS CHRISTI EVENT AT ACE RANCH IN TEXAS. 
          HE SUPPORTED THE M.D. ANDERSON LIVING LEGENDS LUNCHEON. 
          HE WAS PRESIDENT OF THE WHOLE SALE BEER DISTRIBUTOR OF TEXAS AND RECOGNIZED WITH THEIR LIFE SERVICE AWARD IN 2021. 
          THEIR HIGHEST HONOR. HE WAS INDUCTED AS MOLSON COORS LEGEND. EVILS HONORED AN AN INDUCTEE OF THE TEXAS HALL OF FAME IN 2011 AND AWARDED SOUTH TEXAN YEAR. 
          FROM LOVING GEORGE STRAIT'S MUSIC TO BOOTS IN FORT WORTH TO WORKING WITH THE CAPITOL TO MEET WITH LEGISLATORS ABOUT BEER. 
          HE WAS A TEXAS ORIGINAL AND LOVED ENTERTAINING FAMILY AND FRIENDS AT HIS RANCH. ONE OF HIS FAVORITE THINGS TO DO WAS MOWING ON THE TRACTOR AND HIS MOTHER SAT ON THE PORCH. 
          DURING THE 56-YEAR MARRIAGE THE FATHER OF HIS CHILDREN. 
          BARRY WAS THE BELOVED BEARER TO HIS GRANDCHILDREN. 
          HE WAS PROCEEDED IN HIS DEATH BY HIS PARENTS HOMER AND JILL ANDREW AND BROTHER, SISTER. IN LIEU OF FLOWERS OF BAYLOR SCOTT HOSPITAL AND M.D. ANDERSON. 
          I KNOW I MADE THESE COMMENTS BUT I CAN'T GIVE ENOUGH TO COMMENTS WHAT HE MET TO BARRY TO THIS COMMUNITY AND STATE. 
          HE WAS MENTOR TO MANY. HE WAS A LEGEND TO -- TO MANY AS WELL. AND HE WILL BE MISSED. 
          HE TOOK GREAT PRIDE IN HIS FAITH IN GOD. 
          AND HE WAS JUST A MAN WHO REALLY WAS JUST SET ON THIS WORLD TO HELP PEOPLE. MY CONTINUED CONDOLENCES TO THE ANDREWS FAMILY. AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT AT THE DID FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND THIS STATE. 
          THE OTHER ONE THAT I HAVE, JUDGE, THAT YOU MAY BE MENTIONING TOO IS GRACE JONES. I DON'T HAVE THAT OBITUARY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY SHE WAS KILLED IN A TRAGIC ACCIDENT LAST NIGHT IN ALICE, TEXAS. AND I DON'T HAVE THAT OBITUARY, BUT WILL OFFER UP CONDOLENCES FOR THAT FAMILY. 
          SHE LEFT BEHIND FOUR VERY YOUNG KIDS AND A TRAGIC ENDING TO A LIFE WELL SPENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >>JUDGE SCOTT: ABSOLUTELY. I AGREE. 
          ANY OTHERS. IF NOT, COMMISSIONERS, I WILL DO MINE. I WAS ASKED TO READ THIS ONE. 
          ONE OF OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEE'S GRANDFATHER PASSED AWAY. 
          JUAN HARRIS AGE 69 PASSED AWAY SEPTEMBER 9, 2023. 
          BORN MAY 4, 19 4 TO FELIX A AND ADELINA HARRIS. 
          GRADUATED FROM MILLER HIGH SCHOOL AND RETIRED BUS DRIVER. 
          JUAN ENJOYED CARPENTRY AND BUILT FURNITURE AND TOYS FOR HIS FAMILY. REMEMBERED FOR HIS SENSE OF HUMOR AND UNLIMITED JOKES AND HIS LOVE AND DEVOTION TO HIS FAMILY. JUAN WAS A LOVING FATHER. 
          PROCEEDED IN DEATH BY FE FELIX, ADALIN, TONY, ROY, PETE, GEORGE PETTIS, GLORIA AMARO, JOSE BIENVIDER. 
          JUANA BASADA. AND TRINIDAD HARRIS. 
          SURVIVED BY WIFE MARIA. HIS CHILDREN. 
          AND STEPCHILDREN SYLVIA, ALEXANDER. 
          GRANDCHILDREN. GREAT GRANDCHILDREN. 
          BROTHERS AND SISTERS. 
          VISITATION WILL BE HELD FROM 5 TO 9 -- WAS HELD ON SEPTEMBER 15, 2023 AT THE CORPUS CHRISTI FUNERAL K57 HOME WITH A ROSARY RECITED AT 7:00 THE SAME EVENING. 
          WANT TO SAY OUR DEEPEST CONDOLENCES TO OUR NUECES FAMILY MEMBER OF THE LOSS OF A GRANDPARENT AND ABSOLUTELY DITTO TO COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. I KNEW BARRY ANDREWS AND LANA WELL TOO. AND THEIR COMMITMENT TO THIS COMMUNITY AND EVERYTHING IS DEFINITELY A LEGACY. 
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AND THEN ALSO TO THE LADY THAT PASSED AWAY LAST NIGHT GRACE JONES. OUR NUECES OFFERS OUR SINCERE CONSOL LENSES TO ALL OF THESE FAMILIES. 
          AND WITH THAT, I WILL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. 
          >> SO MOVED. >>JUDGE SCOTT: DO I HAVE A 
          SECOND. >> SECOND. 
          >>JUDGE SCOTT: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. 
          AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          TH
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