Sep 06, 2023 Public Hearing & Workshop Agenda

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>>>JUDGE SCOTT: THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGES, PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER CHESNEY WILL DO -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SURE, YES, MA'AM. LET US PRAY.

DEAR LORD, WE ARE SO GRATEFUL AND HUMBLED FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO FOR US. WE ARE APPRECIATE OF YOUR SON JESUS CHRIST DYING ON THE CROSS FOR US AND WE ASK YOU THAT YOU BLESS EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM AND EVERYONE IN NUECES COUNTY AND EVERYONE WHO IS WORKING SO HARD TO DO RIGHT BY NUECES COUNTY AND TO DO RIGHT BY YOU. WE ASK THAT YOU WILL SPREAD YOUR GRACE OVER THIS ROOM AND HELP US ALL MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE IN THE BEST INTEREST AND BENEFIT OF TO HE WAS THAT WE SERVE.

AGAIN, LORD, WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR PRESENCE AND YOUR SON JESUS CHRIST AND ASK YOU TO CONTINUE TO BLESS ALL OF US HERE IN NUECES. IN JESUS'S NAME WE ASK THOSE THINGS AND PRAY, AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE OF THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT ST STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND

INDIVISIBLE. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: THANK YOU.

YOU MAY BE SEATED. IT IS WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 6.

WE ARE AT 901 LEOPARD IN THE NUECES COUNTY COURTROOM AND WE HAVE ALL COMMISSIONERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM HERE.

DO WE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OF DISCLOSURES OR CONFLICTS OF

[2. PUBLIC HEARING:]

NEW REVENUE TAX RATE. >>DALE ATCHLEY: THE HOSPITAL

DISTRICT WILL BE FIRST -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: ARE YOU READY,

JOHNNY. >> I AM.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

I WAS COUNTING ON DALE TO GO FIRST BECAUSE HE DOES OUR TAX RATE HISTORY BUT HE WILL GO OVER THAT --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: HE PUNTED. >> COMMISSIONERS -- SORRY.

WE ALWAYS APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO TALK ABOUT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND WHAT IT DOES. I WANT TO JUST POINT OUT BEFORE WE GET STARTED THOUGH THAT THE TAX RATE FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AS WE ASK YOU ALL TO CONSIDER TODAY, WE ASK YOU TO CONSIDER UP TO 8%, WHICH IS ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE; HOWEVER, THE BUDGET WE EXPECT TO BRING TO YOU NEXT WEEK WILL ONLY BE 4% ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE.

THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT FUNDS A LOT OF THINGS THAT BENEFIT NUECES COUNTY. SOME OF THE ESSENTIAL THINGS THAT WE EITHER PAY Y'ALL BACK FOR OR PAY DIRECTLY ARE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES FOR CALLS THAT ARE MADE BY THE ESDS INTO THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY.

WE PROVIDE FUNDING FOR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, FUNDING FOR MHID TO DRAW DOWN STATE FUNDS AS WELL AS PAYMENTS TO MHID FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE-RELATED PROGRAMS. THOSE INCLUDE JAIL DIVERSION, CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAMS, JAIL BASE COMPS AND FOR REN DICK PROGRAMS. WE ALSO SUBSIDIZE MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM SALARIES.

WE PROVIDE FOR HEALTH CARE SERVICES AT THE JUVENILE DETENTION FACILITY. PROVIDE FOR HEALTH CARE SERVICES AT THE -- AT THE JAIL NEXT DOOR. AND SEVERAL OTHER THINGS.

AND OUR BUDGET NEXT YEAR INCLUDES CONTINUING THE COUNTY HEALTH CARE EXPENDITURES THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR THAT WE WILL CONTINUE INTO 2024 AT THE SAME FUNDING LEVELS, EXCEPT THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF -- ONE NEW PROGRAM AND ONE INCREASE OR OUR CORRECTIONAL HEALTH CARE SERVICES.

SO IN TERMS OF THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT'S REVENUES, 75% OF THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT REVENUES COME FROM NONTAX SOURCES.

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THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL PROGRAM TO REMIND OF THE PUBLIC, THE PROGRAM THAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT PARTICIPATES WITH THE STADIUM WITH THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES COMMISSION TO HELP DRAW DOWN ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR ALL THE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS THAT OPERATE IN NUECES COUNTY.

THE CHIEF ONES HCA, DRISCOLL AND SPOHN AND THE WORK HELPS TO DRAW DOWN SUPPLEMENTAL PAYMENT FUNDS THAT THEY WOULD NOT OTHERWISE RECEIVE. THE TAX RATE JUST TO CLOSE WITH THAT THAT WE HAVE -- THAT THE BOARD HAVE ADOPTED FOR NEXT YEAR EVEN THOUGH WE ASK FOR 8% IS THE CEILING.

THE TAX RATE THEY ADOPTED WAS POINT 3080542 WHICH IS 4% ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE.

THAT TAX RATE GIVES THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT DISTRICT THE SAME REVENUE LAST YEAR EVEN THOUGH THE TAX RATE IS HIGHER THAN THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE. THE FOCUS NEEDS TO BE THAT THAT RATE DELIVERS THE DISTRICT THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAD LAST YEAR. AND THAT RATE IS BELOW 14% LESS THAN THE TAX RATE THAT WAS IMPOSED FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023.

SO MEMBERS OF THE COURT, THAT COMPLETES MY PRESENTATION.

>>>JUDGE SCOTT: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I THINK WE ARE -- WE ARE ALL PRETTY WELL-VERSED ON THIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I GAVE YOU A DRAFT -- VERSION ONE AND VERSION TWO. THIS IS THE SAME ONE I GAVE YOU TODAY. VERSION TWO.

>>>JUDGE SCOTT: THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT

YOU ALL DO. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I AM GOING TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

WE ARE GOOD. NEXT MONTH -- NEXT MEETING.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I AM AHEAD.

YOU KNOW WHERE I STAND, RIGHT. >>JUDGE SCOTT: OKAY.

DO YOU WANT TO DO OURS. >>DALE ATCHLEY: IT WILL TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO GET CONNIE TO GET THE PUBLIC HEARING FILE UP.

IT IS 16 PAGES. REQUIREMENT FROM THE LOCAL -- THE STATE TAX CODE SAYING IF WE ARE IN EXCESS IN OF NO NEW REVENUE TAX WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO A PUBLIC HEARING WHICH WE ARE DOING NOW. PUBLIC HEARING IS WHAT WE WILL HEAR. THE NEXT PAGE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, CONNIE, WILL BE SHOWING THE ITEMS WE WILL BE DISCUSSING.

ITEMS TO BE DISCUSSING IS THE PROPOSED TAX RATE.

JOHNNY SAID WE WILL GIVE YOU OUR RATES AND THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT RATES AND HOW THEY GO. WE WILL GIVE YOU EXEMPTIONS.

PLEASE NOTE THAT AM SO COUNTY EXEMPTIONS HAVE CHANGED AND GO THROUGH THOSE ITEMS. AND WHAT THE HISTORICAL TAX RATES FOR THE COUNTY AND HOSPITAL DISTRICT, OUR SOURCE OF REVENUES, EXPENDITURES AND FUTURE FISCAL IMPACTS WILL BE AN ISSUE NOT ONLY THIS FISCAL YEAR BUT UPCOMING ONES.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. NOW WE WILL TALK OF OUR PROPOSED TAX RATE. PROPOSED TAX RATE IS WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY. THE TAX RATE WE ARE PAYING CURRENTLY 0.291659. THE CURRENT TAX RATE FOR '22-'23. NO NEW IS 0.0240523.

OUT NO NEW REVENUE TAX. VOTER APPROVED 0.252755.

JOHNNY SAID THEIRS IS 0.08972. PRIOR TAX RATE WAS 0.098488.

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NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. LEEWAY ON EXEMPTIONS.

WILL NOT CHANGE, 25% OF OUR VALUE MINIMUM OF 5 5,000 AND 62,500. AS YOU REMEMBER SEEING ON THE STEVE A FEW NIGHTS AGO, THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI RAISED THEIR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION BY 10% MAY NO LONGER BE 10% WITH 50/50 BUT DON'T HAVE THOSE VALUES AT THE TIME.

WE WILL GO WITH WHAT WE HAVE AT THE MOMENT.

CCSID CHANGING BECAUSE THEY CHANGE IT TO A MINIMUM HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OF $100,000. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT COULD GO HIGHER. WE DON'T FORESEE THEM GOING HIGHER. BUT I KNOW THEY CAN'T STAY AT 60,000. ASSUMING BY THE SAME REASON, I AM ASSUMING IT WILL BE 110 FOR THE CCISD AND DEL MAAR DOES NOT CHANGE. TALK OF THE COUNTY TAX RATE -- THIS IS ONLY FOR THE COUNTY THAT INCLUDES OUR GENERAL FUND, DEBT SERVICE FUND AND ROAD FUND. AS YOU TEE IN 2006, 2007, VALUE SLIGHTLY DECREASE FOR A WHILE AND WE MAINTAIN IT FOR THREE OR FOURS YEARS BETWEEN 2009 AND 2013.

WE SAW A LITTLE BIT OF THE DECREASE.

AS YOU REMEMBER 2016, WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF THE ISSUE WITH HOMESTEAD VALUES CHANGING WHICH WOULD REQUIRE THIS INCREASE THE VALUE SLIGHTLY. WE DID GO UP SLIGHTLY AND MAINTAINED THAT AND NOW WE HAVE BEEN GOING DOWN THE LAST FEW YEARS AND IF WE GO THIS YEAR, INCLUDING THE PROPOSED RATE, IT IS STILL A SIGNIFICANT DROP OF ALMOST 4.8 CENTS.

NEXT SLIDE. THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT THAT JOHNNY WAS MENTIONING. FOLLOWING THE SAME PATH AS WHAT THE COUNTY DID. THEY WERE A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN 2016. IN 2011 IT DID GO UP SLIGHTLY WITH SOME ISSUES THAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT HAD.

BUT AFTER 2012, THEY WERE APPROVING THE EFFECTIVE RATE OR NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE FOR A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME MAKING THE RATES GO DOWN. AS YOU SEE AGAIN WITH THEIRS AS WITH OURS, THERE IS DECREASED FROM THE PROPOSED RATE FROM A 0.0899 TO 0.0899. NEXT SLIDE.

THE COMBINED READING. PRESIDENT COMBINED RATE WITH THE GENERAL FUND AND THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

YOU SEE, WE WERE IN 2006/'07, A 0.531.

WE HAVE GONE UP AND DOWN AND THE LAST FEW YEARS AGO DOWN.

IF WE APPROVED THE RATES WILL BE AT 0.342 WHICH IS 4.8 CENTS LESS THAN LAST YEAR'S TAX RATE. THESE ARE JUST PROPOSALS, AND WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING. JUST PROPOSALS.

NEXT LEVEL -- NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

BUDGETED TAX REVENUE. WE HAVE GONE UP BECAUSE SOME VALUES HAVE GONE UP AND ADOPTED RATES ABOVE THE VALUE AND SHOWING $112 PROPOSAL WILL TOTAL LEVY.

THE MARKET, GENERAL FUND AND THE TAX FUND.

NOT JUST GENERAL FUND BUT ALL THREE COMBINED.

THE GENERAL FUND WILL BE RIGHT AROUND $100 MILLION OF THE $112 MILLION. MAYBE LESS, BUT CLOSE TO THAT NUMBER. PLEASE NOTE AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS, STILL A PROPOSED RATE BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE DISPUTES WITH SOME OF OUR LARGEST TAXPAYERS, WE PROBABLY WILL NOT EXPECT TO COLLECT THE 112 PROBABLY CLOSER TO 107.

THAT MAY BE THAT BE GOING FOR A LITTLE PERIOD OF TIME.

NEXT SLIDE SHOWS ESTIMATED FUND BALANCE AND ACTUAL FUND BALANCE.

IN 2016-'17, REQUIRED TO USED 4 MILLION OR $25 MILLION OF OUR FUND BALANCE FOR MANY ADDITIONAL EXPENSES THAT WERE REQUIRED.

WE HAVE BEEN BUILDING THE FUND BALANCE UP AND HAVE BEEN CLOSE TO THE BALANCE. 2021, RIGHT AT THE VERY LEVEL -- SMALL AMOUNT. WE WENT DOWN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE SMALL DEDUCTIONS IN THE RATE WEREN'T EXACTLY WHERE THEY NEEDED TO BE. THIS YEAR SLIGHTLY BELOW.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS WILL PROBABLY BE CHANGED BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE POSSIBLY ADDITIONAL REVENUE COMING IN.

I WILL BE ASKING SOMETHING IN 2013 -- ON THE 13TH OF SEPTEMBER TO REQUEST A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FUNDS FOR OUR HEALTH

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LAST FISCAL YEAR, OUR TAXABLE VALUE FOR AVERAGE PRICES WAS ARE $166,436. THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF ALL THE INCREASES INCLUDING THE -- ALMOST $3 MILLION INCREASE FROM OUR TWO LARGE R REFINERIES, AVERAGE HOME VALUE WENT UP $2400, $1484 HAD,587. IF YOU FOLLOW THE THIRD COLUMN THE 20 2-'23, 629.45. IF WE DO THE CURRENT RATE WHICH WE ARE PROPOSING, THE LEVY $631.33.

$18.63 REDUCTION IN TAX. MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN THE AVERAGE HOME UNLESS IF WE ADOPT THE PROPOSED WILL SEE LESS TAXES THIS YEAR THAN LAST YEAR. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE COMBINED ABOUT ALL THE TAXES COMING ON AND THERE IS A GOOD REASON. BUT THE NORMAL HOUSE IF YOU LIVE IN THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, THIS IS HOW YOUR TAXES ARE DIVVIED UP. WITH YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT RECEIVING A MAJORITY OF THAT WHICH IS ALMOST 50% FOR OUR LITTLE HOUSE AT CCISD OR C CAL ALLEN OR PORT ARANSAS THAT MAY BE SIMILAR TO. WE TICKET CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. THE COUNTY IS ONLY 20% NOW GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AS JOHNNY MENTIONED.

MAJORITY INCOME ONLY 51% COME FROM TAXES.

THE NEXT LARGEST POSITION IS PEOPLE SAY WHAT IS INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUES THE USUALLY DON'T SHOW IT VERY OFTEN ON THIS. THIS IS WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM OUR REVENUE. NOW LET'S GO HOW WE SPEND OUR MONEY. NEXT SLIDE.

WHERE DO WE SPEND OUR MONEY? WELL, MOST GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES MAJORITY OF IS PERSONNEL COST. $85 MILLION OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET IS IN PERSONNEL COST. THE NEXT LARGEST ONE IS OTHER SERVICES AND CHARGES. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY WHAT ARE OTHER SERVICES AND CHARGES. WELL, I HAVE GIVE YOU A FEW ITEMS. OUR INSURANCE FOR THIS BUILDING FOR THE OTHER BUILDINGS, FOR OUR VEHICLES IS HERE.

OUR RENT THAT WE PAY FOR OTHER LOCATIONS IS HERE.

SOME OF OUR OTHER COSTS THAT ARE HERE FOR ACTUALLY THE LARGEST ONE IS INSURANCE. AND WINDSTORM ON THESE BILLINGS ARE EXPENSIVE. YOU SEE THE NEXT ONE WILL BE THE $ MILLION OF MAINTENANCE REPAIR AS WE SEE.

A LOT OF THOSE BUILDINGS AND VEHICLES NEEDING TO BE REPAIRED AND WE SPEND A SIGNIFICANT SUM ON THAT.

IS THAT PROBABLY SHOULD BE SPENDING LITTLE MORE BECAUSE SOME OF OUR BUILDINGS ARE NOT IN THAT GREAT A SHAPE AND WHERE MOST OF THE MONIES COME FROM. NEXT SLIDE.

NOW THIS IS WHERE WE WILL TALK ABOUT BUDGET CHALLENGES.

WE WILL HAVE OTHER CHALLENGES COMING UP TO YOU ON THE 13TH AND I KNOW TERESA WILL HAVE A LONG LIST OF ITEMS TO DISCUSS AND WE PROBABLY WILL BE HERE ALL DAY ON THE 13TH .FOR NOW, WE WILL GO OVER A FEW ITEMS THAT WE KNOW ARE OF A CHALLENGE THAT THESE ITEMS ARE PRETTY MUCH HAVE TO BE THERE, AND SOME CAN BE VOTED ON.

AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE TWO OF OUR LARGEST TAXPAYERS ARE DISPUTING THE VALUES. WE DO NOT BELIEVE WE WILL BE COLLECTING $5 MILLION OF OUR TAX LEVY BASED ON DISPUTES.

SOME SAY, WELL, HOW LONG WILL THAT BE? WELL, ONE OF OUR REFINERIES HAVE BEEN DISPUTING THE VALUES FOR FIVE YEARS AND WE EXPECT IT TO PROBABLY GO LONGER.

THE OTHER ONE SETTLED FOR BACK TO FIVE YEARS BUT THEY ARE GOING FORWARD, SO THIS COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM FIVE TO TEN YEARS.

DEPENDING ON HOW LONG THESE LAWSUITS ARE PENDING IN THE COURT. THE NEXT ITEM IS CONTINUANCE.

WHAT IS CONTINUANCE? WE HAVE A PERSONNEL POLICY THAT THE COURT HAS PASSED MANY YEARS AGO THAT ANY EMPLOYEE THAT WORKS FOR THREE YEARS AFTER THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR WILL RECEIVE A SMALL

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THAT SMALL INCREASE IS 2.5%. APPROXIMATELY THIS YEAR, 153 EMPLOYEES, FIVE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND TWO DEPARTMENT HEADS QUALIFIED FOR THAT CONTINUANCE AT A BALANCE $ 59, 19. EVERY YEAR, OUR TEXAS COUNTY RETIREMENT SYSTEM SENDS US A VALUATION OF WHAT THE PITCH AND LIABILITIES ARE AND HOW MUCH THEY BELIEVE WE NEED TO SPEND TO COVER OUR -- OUR CURRENT LABELS AS WELL AS OUR FUTURE LABELS.

HAND THIS YEAR IT WAS A SMALL INCREASE.

AND IT IS NOT A CHASE WE HAVE TO INCREASE BY $156,903.

THE NEXT ITEM IS -- KIND OF -- THIS NUMBER IS NOT 100% ACCURATE. DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE BUDGET YEAR, MANY DEPARTMENTS HAVE COME TO THE COURT AND REQUESTED RECLASSIFICATIONS. THERE HAVE BEEN MANY.

UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO LACK OF RESOURCE AND GOING TO MY OFFICE ON THE SOFTWARE AND OTHERS WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP UP TO DATE AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LIKE TO.

THE NUMBER WE HAD IS 158, BUT PROBABLY HIGHER THAN THAT.

BUT THESE ARE POSITIONS THAT YOU ALL ALREADY APPROVED.

NOW WE CAN DEFINITELY RE-EVALUATE YOU AT YOUR END AND IF YOU DECIDE THEY CAN NO LONGER BE, WE WILL NEED TO BE CHANGING THESE BUT RIGHT NOW THESE ARE CURRENTLY POSITIONS CHANGED IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET AND YOU WILL BE SEEING THAT AS IS IN THE FUTURE. WE KNOW WE HAVE MANY VACANCIES IN OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE. AS WE KNOW SOMETIMES THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN THE JAIL HAS BEEN 85% TO 95% OF PEOPLE IN OUR JAIL. SO WE KIND OF ASKED THAT THEY -- THEY KIND OF ASKED TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL OVERTIME AND BUILD COSTS IN THEIR BUDGET. THEY ASKED FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.

WE ONLY PUT $1 MILLION FOR OVERTIME AND $1 MILLION FOR THE MEALS. AS YOU KNOW WE GO TO THE GROCERY STORE, OUR FOOD COSTS ARE INCREASED SO WHY WE PUT A MILLION DOLLAR FOR EACH. THIS $2 MILLION CAN BE REDUCED AND AS THE COURT WISHES. AS I MENTIONED MY OFFICE IS GOING THROUGH A SOFTWARE CHANGE BECAUSE OF THE NEED WE HAD AS WELL AS OTHER CHANGES FOR OUR INMATE -- OUR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. AND WE WILL BE ASKING THAT WE TRANSFER THAT AMOUNT FROM WAIVER FROM THIS YEAR TO COVER THIS ONE-TIME BALANCE BECAUSE NEXT YEAR, A LARGE AMOUNT OF THAT -- OF THAT BALANCE WILL GO AWAY NOW EVERY YEAR WHEN WE -- WE HAVE THE ENERGY SAVINGS. AND YOU APPROVE WITH ABM.

FINANCING THROUGH THE BANK OF AMERICA AND A LITTLE DIFFERENCE.

AND THIS IS JUST A REQUIRED DEBT SERVICE.

WE THOUGHT OF IT AS $40,000 BUT I WILL BE BRINGING IN THE PROPOSAL ACTUALLY 50,000. WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH OUR SHERIFF OFFICE ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS THE CONSTABLES. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NO BALANCES WITH WHAT WE HAVE. SO RIGHT NOW THAT THE IS QUESTION MARK. WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE OR OUR BUDGET CHALLENGES, 8,583,000 THAT WE SEE NEXT SLI IS COVID IMPACT. AS YOU HAVE BEEN HEARING IN THE NEWS, OUR COVID NUMBERS ARE GOING UP BECAUSE CLOSE TO THE END OF SUMMER AND PEOPLE ARE GOING BACK TO SCHOOL, BUT RIGHT NOW THIS COULD STILL HAVE THE FISCAL IMPACT TO THE COUNTY.

HOPEFULLY NOT, BUT WE DIDN'T EXPECT WHAT WE GOT TWO YEARS AGO. AS WE SAID THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGREEMENT IS UNDER INVESTIGATIONS .WE PROBABLY HAVE FUNDS IN OUR CONTINGENCIES THAT INCREASE TO COVER YOU ADDITIONAL COSTS SHOULD AGREEMENT BE RAISED AND THAT IS ANOTHER ISSUE.

AS I MENTIONED I WILL BE BRINGING A REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR OUR HEALTH INSURANCE AND THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF LARGE CLAIMS AND SOME OF THESE LARGE CLAIMS ARE 100% LIABILITY TO THE COUNTY AND NOT INCURRED BY OUR STOP LOSS, BUT THAT IS AN ITEM THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT I WOULD ASK YOU TO H HAVE TOMAS HERE AND HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE IT IS HIIPPA REQUIREMENTS. INFLATION HAS BEEN CRAZY ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH COSTS GOING UP .SKYROCKETING 7%.

6.5%. THREE YEARS AT 16%.

AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL START COMING DOWN AND WE WILL SEE.

AS YOU ALL -- Y'ALL DIDN'T MAKE A REQUEST FOR BUDGET CUTS AND THERE ARE CUTS MADE THIS YEAR. AND THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT

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THE FUTURE REFINERY APPRAISAL FOR THE DISPUTE WE HAVE.

HOPEFULLY OUR REFINERIES WILL SETTLE OVER THE APPRAISAL DISTRICTS AND GET THIS RESOLVED. BUT THIS COULD BE AN ISSUE COVERING THE NEXT FEW YEARS AND WE HOPE NOT.

THAT IS THE FINAL PAGE FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARING.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. IF NOT, THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING

WILL BE ON SEPTEMBER 13. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: I KNOW WE WILL MEET ON THE 13TH ABOUT THIS, BUT CAN YOU TELL US, DO WE HAVE 100% PARTICIPATION IN THE BUDGET CUTS WITH THE DEPARTMENTS AND

EVERYTHING? >>DALE ATCHLEY: YES.

MY STAFF WERE FORCED TO MAKE CUTS ON A FEW OF THEM BUT WE

MADE SURE 100% PARTICIPATION -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: 100 PARTICIPATION. GOOD.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? IS THANK YOU.

DALE, APPRECIATE IT. >> DAVDA

[3. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]

>>DALE ATCHLEY: IT HAS. >>JUDGE SCOTT: PUBLIC COMMENT.

ANYONE SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

ANYONE WHO DIDN'T SIGN UP WANT TO COMMENT? STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. ROLAND.

AND COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE, YES, PLEASE AND THEN YOU CAN

SIGN IT AFTERWARDS WITH IEDAI. >> GOOD MORNING, ROLANDO GAZA, SAXON NEIGHBORHOOD HERE IN CORPUS CHRISTI.

I KIND OF STEPPED IN A LITTLE BIT LATE.

KIND OF -- ONE THING TO SHARE WITH YOU.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU ARE A LOT OF BRILLIANT MINDS UP THERE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT FORECASTING -- JOHN YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS AND BRENT AND STAFF FUTURE PREDICTIONS DOWN THE ROAD AND YOU HEAR THE WORD "INFLATION" THAT IT MAY OR MAY NOT GO UP.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT BOOK THAT CAME OUT OF OR ECONOMISTS OR CPA ACCOUNTING FIRM THAT CAME OUT OF, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT SHARING WITH THE COMMISSIONERS IS VERY GENUINE.

WE ALL SHOULD KNOW BASED ON THE ECONOMY RIGHT NOW WHERE WE ARE HEADED. MOST FORECASTERS ARE FORECASTING THINGS TO GET WORSE BUT NOT BETTER.

IF YOU ARE MAKING, YOU PREDICTIONS MOVING FORWARD, I AM PREACHING TO THE CHOIR AND UNDERSTAND I AM NOT TRYING TO LOOK LIKE I AM SPARING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

I AM SAYING FROM MY PERSPECTIVE WHAT WE DO ON OUR SHOW, WE GATHER THE DOCUMENTS. WE GATHER -- WE LOOK AT ECONOMIC FORECAST, GLOBAL, NATIONAL, INTERNATIONAL.

THOSE ARE THINGS WE LOOK AT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE GIVING YOU. I AM JUST SAYING LITTLE DISINGENUOUS FOR THE COMMISSIONERS THAT WE THINK INFLATION WILL HOLD OR WE THINK -- WELL, THINK IS NOT A PROJECTION. THINK IS JUST A THOUGHT.

SO LOOKING FOR THAT TRAP ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

I THINK WHEN YOU WERE IN IF THE CITY -- COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, YOU SAID WE PREDICT A 3% INFLATION RATE BASED ON THE ECONOMY AND WHAT FORECASTERS SHARED WITH Y'ALL AS YOUR STAFF THERE. USED TO PUT NUMBERS TOGETHER AND CRUNCH THE NUMBERS AND LOOK AT THE GLOBAL, THE NATIONAL PICTURE. MOST OF THE TIME YOU WERE ON THE BUTTON ON THE FORECASTS. AND A WAR, HURRICANE, OIL REFINERY EXPLOSION. OTHER THAN THAT, THOSE FORECASTS ARE ALMOST ON THE MARK. BUT BETTER PREDICTIONS ON THIS.

JUST A THOUGHT. THAT IS WHAT I GOT.

I KNOW YOU ARE TRYING TO CORRECT WHAT YOU HAVE, WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU. I THINK YOU ARE DOING A GOOD JOB CORRECTING IT. I HOPE THE REFINERIES COME ON BOARD. EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY IS HOPING THEY COME ON BOARD WITH THE FAIR APPRAISAL, TAKE THE BURDEN OFF OF YOU FOR DECISIONMAKERS FOR OUR TAX DOLLARS. BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THOSE THOUGHTS WITH YOU. ALL RIGHT.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU DO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: THANK YOU.

LISA, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING -- I DID SKIP OVER? OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT? I ASSUME THAT BEING A NO THEN.

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[A. Nueces County Commissioners Court will hold a workshop with Grantworks, Inc. to discuss the GLO Mitigation MIT MOD projects and eligible activities.]

IT IS IN THE GRANTWORKS -- IT IS -- OKAY.

>> GOOD MORNING. >>JUDGE SCOTT: WHERE ARE WE

GOING? >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, JUDGE. WE WILL BE CONDUCTING T THE CDBG MID MOD PRESENTATION PRESENTED BY GRANTWORKS.

WE HAVE TWO OF IT THE GRANTWORKS TEAM HERE.

WE INVITED THE ENGINEERS AND EVERYONE SO WE CAN ALL HEAR THE SAME THING AT THE SAME TIME. AND KIND OF BE AWARE OF ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WILL BE NEEDED IN ORDER TO PROGRESS TO THIS GRANT. AND NATALIE GONZALEZ WITH

GRANTWORKS. >> HI, GOOD MORNING,

COMMISSIONERS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: GOOD

MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

NATALIE GONZALEZ WITH GRANTWORKS.

HAPPY TO BE HERE. COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE, YOU WILL ALL SEE THE PRESENTATION THAT HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO YOU. I THINK THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE ONE I GAVE YOU IS A DOUBLE PAGED VERSUS THE ONE AIDAI MADE IS SINGLE PAGE WHICH MAY BE BETTER BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO FLIP AROUND TO IT. GET TO MY POWERPOINT.

THE GOAL FOR THIS MORNING -- THE GOAL FOR THIS MORNING TO GIVE AT-A-GLANCE PICTURE. GRANT ADMINISTRATION STAFF AND SOME OF THE ENGINEERS TO GO OVER THE RFIS THAT WERE SUBMIT BY THE COUNTY. I WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. I KNOW YOUR TIME IS VALUABLE AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE MUCH OF IT, BUT THE THOUGHT WAS, IF WE WERE ALL TOGETHER IN ONE PLACE WE COULD START FROM GROUND ZERO, EXPLAIN WHERE WE ARE AT, WHERE WE ARE HEADED, AND WHAT TO ANTICIPATE. SO IF YOU COULD GO TO SLIDE 3, PLEASE. I WILL START THERE.

I WANT TO INTRODUCE THE MEMBERS OF THE TEAM THAT WILL BE WORKING WITH US. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE WORKING WITH.

BRUCE SPET SINGLE IS THE OWNER OF THE COMPANY.

BRUCE IS BEING KEPT ABREAST OF EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON AND HE HAS A PRETTY CLOSE HAND IN HOW WE ARE MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE THIS IS -- YOU GUYS ARE A VERY IMPORTANT CLIENT TO US.

YOU HAVE A HEALTHY, YOU KNOW, LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS DONE SUCCESSFULLY.

SO I PROVIDED SOME DATA HERE FOR YOU.

WE HAVE -- WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING AND MANAGING APPROXIMATELY $7.5 MILLION WORTH OF RESTORE FUNDS FOR PRESIDENT COASTAL PARKS UNDER NUECES COUNTY, WHICH IS PROJECTS OUT ON PADRE BALLI PARK AND MAGHEE BEACH PARKS .GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE. WE WILL MOVE THROUGH THIS QUICKLY. THE STAFF THAT WILL BE WORKING WITH YOU GUYS. I TALKED ABOUT BRUCE AND YOU KNOW ME AND BRENDA HARRIS OUR VP.

LENORE HELLMAN WHO IS ACTUALLY ON THE CALL WITH US THIS MORNING. THE APPLICATION SPECIALIST AND BENEFICIARY SPECIALIST ON OUR TEAM APPEAR JULIANNA GREENBURG, ALSO ON THE CALL THIS MORNING OUR HUD AND GLO PROJECT MANAGER.

CURRENTLY MANAGING THE RESTORE PROJECT FOR COASTAL PARKS.

SHE WILL BE HEADED THE PROJECT 2K0E689O DEVELOPMENT SIDE OF THE MIT MOD PROJECTS FOR YOU GUYS. I HAVE GARY SMITH ON THE TO EN.

HE IS ALSO ANOTHER APPLICATION WRITER.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND SKIP TO SLIDE NUMBER 7.

WANT TO GO OVER A LITTLE BIT WHAT THE ROLES ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE. LENORE HELLMAN WROTE MILLIONS IN GRANT FUNDS AND ESSENTIAL A BENEFICIARY EXPERT AND SHE WILL

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BUT SHE IS VERY GOOD AT WHAT SHE DOES.

AND SHE IS GOING TO GIVE GREAT LEADERSHIP.

GREAT GUIDANCE. SHE IS GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BUDGET HERE IN JUST A MOMENT.

WE HAVE GARY SMITH WHO ALSO -- HE HAS OVER 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE JUST IN GRANT WRITING AND ADMINISTRATION ALSO, AND AN EMPHASIS IN GLO. AND TXDOT.

TXDOT AND WILDLIFE AS WELL. HE BRINGS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE TO THE TABLE. THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND JULIANNA GREENBURG, ASIDE FROM MANAGING THE COASTAL PARKS PROGRAM, MANAGED WELL OVER $30 MILLION THROUGH MULTIPLE AGENCIES, TDA, TETUR, GLO, TCCU AND FEMA.

WHEN SHE LOOKS AT A PROJECT, SHE LOOKS AT IT FROM A GREAT STANDPOINT OF UNDERSTANDING COMPLIANCE AND UNDERSTANDING REGULATIONS OF HOW TO MAKE SURE THESE PROJECTS ARE IMPLEMENTED EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY. SHE IS VERY GOOD AT WHAT THE SHE DOES IN OTHER WORDS. LET'S SKIP ON DOWN TO SLIDE NUMBER 10. SOME SLIDE NUMBER 10, THIS IS JUST A VISUAL AID SO YOU CAN SORT OF SEE THE TIMELINE OF THE GRANT AND WHAT LOOK FOR AND WHAT TO EXPECT.

OBVIOUSLY OUR FIRST STEP IS PROJECT DEVELOPMENT AND APPLICATION AFTER BEING PROCURED.

IN THIS CASE THE APPLICATION IS ALREADY SUBMITTED AND WE ARE START OF IN BETWEEN THAT POINT AND THE AWARDING CONTRACT POINT.

WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO THAT AWARD IN CONTRACT.

AFTER THAT IS COMPLETED. THEN IT WILL BE A START-UP MEETING IS WHERE THE PROJECT MANAGER WILL GO OVER THE CIVIL RIGHTS DOCUMENT AND FAIR HOUSING COMPLIANCE.

IT WILL SORT OF IN A SIMILAR TIME FRAME MOVE INTO ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW. WE WILL TALK ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW IN A BIT. A VERY IMPORTANT KEY PART OF THESE PROJECTS IN GETTING THEM OFF THE GROUND SOMETHING GRANT WORKS WILL HANDLE WITH OUR FULL ENVIRONMENTAL TEAM.

WE THEN MOVE INTO ACQUISITION. ACQUISITION IS SOMETHING THAT GRANTWORKS CAN ASSIST YOU WITH. WE HAVE A BUYOUTS TEAM THAT SPECIALIZE IN ACQUISITIONS AND GETTING YOU THROUGH THAT ENTIRE PROCESS. IT IS ACTUALLY A REALLY GREAT WAY TO SAVE DOLLARS TO YOU DON'T HAVE TO HIRE OUTSIDE GUIDANCE UNLESS YOU WANT TO. SOMETHING TO HAVE AN EXPERT TEAM DEDICATED SPECIFICALLY TO ACQUISITION.

AND THEN WE HAVE ENGINEERING, DESIGN AND SPECIAL CONDITIONS.

THAT IS WHERE WE WILL WORK WITH THE ENGINEERS SELECTED WITH THESE PROJECTS TO DEVELOP THOSE PROJECTS FURTHER AND GET THEM INTO PROJECT IMPLEMENTATION POSITION.

AND THEN BIDDING, CONSTRUCTION. THEN DAVIS BACON STANDARDS, PROJECT COMPLETION REPORT, AND ULTIMATELY WE ARE DONE.

AND WE GET TO MONITORING. THAT IS SORT OF THE LIFE OF THE GRANT IN A -- IN A REALLY QUICK WAY.

A LOT THAT HAS TO HAPPEN TO GET TO THAT MONITORING POINT, BUT THIS IS SO YOU ARE AWARE. LET'S GO AHEAD AND SKIP TO SLIDE NUMBER 12. LET'S START WITH THE ACTUAL PROGRAM. SO TEXAS GENERAL LAND OFFICE PROGRAM OVERSEAS THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE COMMUNITY BLOCK GRANT MIT MOD FUNDS WHICH WE ALL KNOW.

NOW NUECES COUNTY'S TOTAL ALLOCATION IS $31,252,100.

THE NATIONAL OBJECTIVE IS CDBG MIT MOD FUND STRATEGIC AND HIGH IMPACT ACTIVITIES. AND MUST BE A PRINCIPAL BENEFIT TO LOW AND MODERATE INCOME. TO BENEFIT LOW AND MODERATE-NORTH CAROLINA CURBS HAS -- INCOME.

AND 43%. ACTUALLY 42.560.

THAT PERCENTAGE WAS DETERMINED BY THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE.

AND THE ENTIRE COUNTY OUT OF YOUR TOTAL ALLEGATION, THAT $13,300,900 MUST BE SPENT PRINCIPALLY BENEFITING LOW TO MOD LAT-INCOME PERSONS OVER 51%. THAT IS A BALANCING ACT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHEN WE START DIGGING INTO THE BUDGETS OF THESE PROJECTS. WE HAVE TO ALSO COMPARE IT TO BENEFICIARY DATA AND MAKE SURE WE ARE HITTING THAT TARGET IN ORDER FOR GLO TO ACCEPT THEM. SO ALL PROJECTS MUST BE STAND-ALONE ACTIVITIES. THEY MUST MITIGATE AGAINST REPETITIVE LOSS OF LIFE AND PROPERTY.

SO IS THE FEDERAL REGISTER NOTICE, HUD DEFINES MITIGATION

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THAT IS THEIR DEFINITION. THEY ARE STICKING TO IT.

WE HAVE TO JUSTIFY IT. SO WE WILL HAVE TO ASSESS THESE PROJECTS TO ENSURE THAT COMBINED WITH BENEFICIARY DATA, THAT WE ARE MITIGATING ACTIVITIES THAT ARE MEETING THAT DEFINITION.

OKAY. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND SCROLL TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT MET AND SELECTED PROJECTS WITHIN EACH PRECINCT TO SUBMIT UNDER THE MIT MOD APPLICATION. THE COUNTY GRANT ADMINISTRATION TEAM SUCCESSFULLY UPLOADED AND SUBMITTEDED THAT GRANT APPLICATION WITH A MINIMAL TIME AVAILABLE FOR PROJECT DEVELOPMENT. SO WE KNOW THERE WAS A HUGE TIME CRUNCH. WHAT THAT ESSENTIALLY COMES DOWN TO IS GENERAL LAND OFFICE HAS REVIEW IS THE APPLICATION.

WE ARE SITTING ON APPROXIMATELY 200 RFIS, REQUEST FOR INFORMATION. THERE ARE GAPS IN WHAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY RESPOND TO THOSE RFIS WHICH COME FROM THE LACK OF OPPORTUNITY TO DO PROJECT DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.

WE ARE GOING TO GET YOU GUYS TO THAT POINT ALONG WITH ANA AND HER TEAM AND THE ENGINEERS. BUT I WANT TO BE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT REQUEST YOU AS WELL. THERE ARE MAPS, FORMAL BUDGETS THAT GLO REQUIRES, FORMER BENEFICIARY DATA THAT GLO REQUIRES THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PULL TOGETHER IN ORDER TO RESPOND TO THESE RFIS. WE HAVE ALREADY MET WITH THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE. LAST WEEK HAD A CONVERSATION.

THEY ARE AWARE OF THE CHALLENGES AND HURDLES THEY HAVE TO OVERCOME TO GET THEM OUT THE GATE.

THEY ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH US.

WE ARE GOING TO DRAFT AN ADDITIONAL -- ANOTHER EXTENSION

LETTER, JUDGE. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: AND THEY ARE GOING TO GRANT US THIS EXTENSION.

>> YES. SO INITIALLY, OUR INITIAL REQUEST WAS TO GO THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THIS YEAR, BECAUSE REALISTICALLY, WE ARE REBUILDING SOME OF THESE, OKAY.

THEY SIMPLY EXPECT WAIT THAT LONG.

THEY EXPECT WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR.

THEY ASK US -- THEY SAID 30 DAYS.

SO THEY WOULD LIKE US TO REDRAFT THAT LETTER, JUDGE TO 30 DAYS AND HAND THAT, YOU KNOW, TO YOU GUYS AND HOPEFULLY YOU ARE OKAY WITH THAT. SO AFTER THIS WORKSHOP AND AFTER WE HAVE SORT OF A GAME PLAN, WE ARE GOING TO START WORKING AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH OUR ENGINEERS AND WE ARE GOING TO REGROUP WITH GLO, LET THEM KNOW WHERE WE ARE AT, AND THEY WILL GIVE US FURTHER GUIDANCE AT THAT TIME DEPENDING --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: DO YOU FEEL CONFIDENT WE CAN DO THIS IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, ANA. I AM SORRY, DO WE FEEL CONFIDENT -- I MEAN WE ASKED FOR A COUPLE OF EXTENSIONS ALREADY.

I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO BE WORKING ON THESE.

IF THEY ONLY GAVE US 30 DAYS AND ASKING FOR MORE, LET'S -- PUT WHATEVER WE HAVE INTO THIS TO GET THIS MOVING FORWARD.

IS THAT WHY EVERYBODY IS HERE. ALL THE ENGINEERS HERE.

>> WE BASICALLY WANT TO GET STARTED AND GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE. GET MOVING SO WE MEET THAT 30 DAY AND WE DON'T HAVE TO REQUEST IT.

IF WE NEED TO, WE WILL REQUEST ANOTHER ONE, BUT WE ARE TRYING NOT TOO, AND, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT MOVING.

AS YOU KNOW IF WE ARE REQUESTING A DELAY AND ANOTHER EXTENSION WILL DELAY IT FURTHER AND FURTHER AND FURTHER.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: EVERYTHING GETS PUSHED TOGETHER AS A UNIT.

NOT ONE INDIVIDUAL PROJECT. BUT ONE APPLICATION.

>> IF ONE PRECINCT IS HOLDING UP, THEN ONE WILL HAVE TO WAIT

UNTIL THE OTHER ONE. >>JUDGE SCOTT: GOOD POINT.

>> ONE APPLICATION. >>JUDGE SCOTT: OKAY.

>> SO DEPENDING ONCE WE MEET WITH THE ENGINEERS AND GET GOING. DEPENDING ON WHAT ADDITIONAL -- ON WHAT WE SEE, RIGHT. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CONSIDER A LOT OF THINGS INCLUDING BENEFICIARY DATA.

THERE IS A REAL POSSIBILITY WE MAY HAVE TO GO AND DO SURVEYS.

THAT WILL TAKE MORE THAN 30 DAYS.

SO DEPENDING ON WHAT IS DISCOVERED UPON THE DEVELOPMENT -- DURING THIS DEVELOPMENT PHASE IS GOING TO REALLY DETERMINE WHAT OUR OUTLOOK LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF TIME.

AND WE HAVE ALSO EXPLAINED THAT -- EXPRESSED THAT TO THE GLO.

SO I THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO SEE HOW FAR WE CAN GET.

AND THEY WILL GIVE US THEIR BEST RECOMMENDATION ON HOW TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE INTO THE NEXT PHASE. THEY ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE NUECES COUNTY. THEY ARE DEFINITELY ON BOARD.

I THINK WE JUST NEED TO START WALKING THROUGH GETTING IT DONE AS FAST AS HE CAN AND GET AS MUCH AS WE CAN PULL TOGETHER AND

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SO -- SHE IS DOING A REALLY GREAT JOB.

HONESTLY, IT IS A LOT. THIS IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING, THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM BECAUSE SO MUCH TO BE MANAGED HERE.

SO -- SO THAT -- THAT IS AS MUCH TRANSPARENCY AS I CAN GIVE.

THERE IS A TIME LINE THAT I PUT TOGETHER FOR YOU ALL TO KNOW WHEN THE FIRST RFI REQUESTS CAME IN.

WHAT THE INITIAL EXTENSION REQUEST WAS SO YOU HAVE THAT FOR YOUR RECORDS AND YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE DATES ARE.

THEN MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE H HERE. SO THIS IS -- WHEN WE BEGIN EVERYTHING AT GRANTWORKS, UNFORTUNATELY, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO HELP WITH THE APPLICATION INITIALLY, BUT WHEN WE WRITE APPLICATIONS, WE GO INTO EVERY SITUATION BEGINNING WITH THE END IN MIND. WHAT THAT MEANS IS, WE BEGIN IN VISUALIZING AND KNOWING TO CLOSE THIS PROJECT OUT, WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO GET US HERE. WHEN WE BUILD THESE PROJECTS, WE MAKE SURE IT IS A SUCCESS. AND WE CAN GET IT AS SMOOTH AS POSSIBLE. THERE IS ALWAYS HUMAN ERROR ELEMENT. ALWAYS THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO COME UP, BUT WE DO OUR BEST TO MITIGATE IT SVPS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT MAKES YOUR LIVES EASIER AS WELL AS OURS.

AND YOU CAN SERVE YOUR CONSTITUENTS BETTER THAT WAY.

WHAT WE ARE HAVING TO DO AT THIS POINT IS TAKE THESE PROJECTS BEGINNING WITH THE END IN MIND, MENTALITY.

WE WILL TO OUR VERY BEST TO PULL THEM TOGETHER AND GET AS MUCH DOCUMENTATION IN LINE TO GIVE GUIDANCE.I SAY THIS WITH A LOT OF HESITANCY BECAUSE I WANT TO BE FULLY TRANSPARENT, THERE MAY BE PROJECTS THAT NIGHT TO BE RECON RECONSIDERED. MAYBE NOT REMOVED, BUT JUST RECONSIDERED. AND COULD BE BECAUSE OF DIFFERENT ELEMENTS. IT COULD BE WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED. COULD BE BENEFICIARIES.

COULD BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

WE WANT TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH YOU ALL.

BECAUSE I KNOW THE PROJECTS ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU AND IMPORTANT TO THE CONSTITUENTS AND THE PERSONS THAT YOU SERVE IN THESE AREAS. I JUST WANT TO BE HONEST, THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND TALK ABOUT.

BUT WE WILL HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. I WILL START TALKING OF WHAT

SOME OF THE PROJECTS ARE. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: LET ME ASK

YOU A QUESTION ON THAT, NATALIE. >> SURE.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: YOU WILL HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH US. THAT IS OBVIOUSLY PUSHING US TO THAT GOAL OF GETTING OUR DATE COMPLETE, BUT WILL YOU BRING THAT TO THE ENTIRE COURT. SOMETHING WE GOT TO SAY, OKAY, I GET YOU? BECAUSE NONE OF THAT -- I WILL TELL YOU, YOU OR SOMEONE WILL HAVE TO BE HERE TO TELL US THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION. WE HAVE GOT TO CUT WHAT IS A LOSS. AND MOVE FORWARD.

IF THAT IS IN MY PRECINCT, FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COUNTY,

THEN TELL ME. >> SURE, I APPRECIATE THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I DON'T WANT THIS DELAYED WHERE WE ARE PUSH CAN BACK GOOD PROJECTS THAT ARE READY TO GO AND CAN BE FUNDED TO BE DELAYED IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

IF IT IS ME AND I DON'T KNOW -- I MAY COME BACK --

>>I DON'T KNOW. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: -- I MAY SAY I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS SAYING.

I MAY CHANGE IT BUT THAT IS MY GUT REACTION ON THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS YOU, ANA OR SOMEONE ON STAFF, HOW YOU

WOULD TELL US THAT. >> OKAY.

SO THERE IS A SLIDE LATER ON. BUT BASICALLY WHAT OUR THOUGHT IS, IS WE KNOW YOU CAN'T HAVE A QUORUM.

WE KNOW THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE MORE -- LITTLE MORE GIVE AND TAKE.

WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A MEANINGFUL CONVERSATION ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS. OUR RECOMMENDATION IS GOING TO BE TO EITHER DO TWO COMMISSIONERS AT A TIME WITH THEIR ENGINEERS IN THE ROOM AND SPEND MAYBE A MORNING WITH TWO COMMISSIONERS AND THEIR ENGINEERS AND THE AFTERNOON WITH THE OTHER TWO AND THEIR ENGINEERS AND ANOTHER DAY WITH YOU, JUDGE SCOTT, ON YOURS, AND YOUR PROJECT TEAM.

AND THEN THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE THOSE FULLY TRANSPARENT CONVERSATIONS. THAT IS OUR PLAN.

NOW YOU CAN TELL ME IF YOU FEEL LIKE WE HAVE MISSED THE MARK, BUT I REALLY THINK THAT WILL BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO GET A CLEAR UNDERSTAND WHAT IS WORKING AND NOT WORKING WITH YOUR

PROJECTS -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: I THINK THAT WILL BE THE UNIVERSAL ATTITUDE UP HERE.

WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE OUT ON THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNTY BECAUSE OF ONE INDIVIDUAL PROJECT.

WE MIGHT BE A LITTLE HEARTBURN IF IT IS IN OUR AREA BUT WE ARE GETTING TO THE WIRE WITH THE EXTENSIONS AND WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. WE NEED TO WORK FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE.

>> GREAT, I APPRECIATE SO MUCH. I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THIS IS NOT -- WE KNOW THIS. NEED TO BE OUT THERE ON THE RECORD THAT THIS IS NOT A COMPETITIVE GRANT.

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>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: EXCUSE ME --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: THE PROJECTS HAVE TO BE ALLOCATED AND CAN'T BE SWITCHED OUT TO ANOTHER PROJECT BECAUSE THIS HAS STARTED OR IS THAT -- IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT TO CHANGE DOWN THE

ROAD? >> DOWN THE ROAD AFTER CONTRACT HAS BEEN EXECUTED, IT IS A -- NO.

YEAH, WE HAVE TO -- YES, MA'AM. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: THAT'S WHAT HI

THOUGHT OF MOVING FORWARD. >> YES, MA'AM.

>>>JUDGE SCOTT: SORRY, COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I WAS GOING TO ASK ALMOST THE SAME QUESTION. IF THERE IS A PROJECT THAT HAS TO BE REMOVED FOR WHATEVER REASON, THAT MONEY -- CAN WE FIND ANOTHER PROJECT IN THE SAME AREA THAT WE CAN USE THAT MONEY?

>> IT COULD BE THAT IS THE CASE. MOST CASES WHEN WE HAVE TO REMOVE A PROJECT, IT IS USUALLY BECAUSE THE COST ESTIMATE IS SO HIGH ON SOME OF THE OTHERS, THAT YOU NEED THAT MONEY TO BE ABSORBED INTO SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS TO MAKE THOSE FUNCTIONAL. IF THAT IS THE CASE, YES, COMMISSIONER, CAN BE REDIRECTED TO SOME OTHER NEED THAT CAN BE LESS COSTLY. IF THAT IS THE ISSUE WE ARE TRYING TO OVERCOME. WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE GET THERE BUT IN THEORY, YES, YOU COULD TECHNICALLY DO THAT.

IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE SITUATION.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: A LOT EASIER TO FORWARD IT TO ANOTHER PROJECT THAT IS ALREADY IN FORCE.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT.

>>>JUDGE SCOTT: ABSOLUTELY. >> OKAY.

SO I WANTED TO GO THROUGH A LINE ITEM SORT OF THE PROJECTS.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THAT KIND OF TIME AND MAYBE WE DON'T DO THAT. IT IS UP TO YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I LOOKED AT THIS.

I GUESS I DON'T -- UNLESS YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH AND TELL US WHAT DOES AND DOESN'T WORK, I DON'T NEED FOR YOU TO RECOUNT EVERY PROJECT BECAUSE WE KNOW OUR PROJECTS, BUT I AM NOT

TRYING TO CUT YOU OFF EITHER. >> THAT IS EXACTLY WHERE MY THOUGHT IS GOING. IT IS THERE.

YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEY ARE AT A GLANCE.

WE ARE NOT IN A POSITION, COMMISSIONER, TO -- AT THIS POINT TO MAKE THOSE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO IT -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUST WASN'T A DUPE ON MINE. IF YOU LOOK ON THE BUDGET PROTECTIONS. PETRONILLA, BELK AND TIERRA GRANDE GOT DOUBLED UP AND PUT INTO MINE.

THOSE ARE NOT MINE. IF YOU CAN JUST PULL THOSE OUT.

NO NOT A BIG DEAL. >> NO PROBLEM.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THEY ARE ON THERE TWICE.

>> NO PROBLEM. THAT'S OKAY --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: HE HAS ALREADY TAKEN YOURS.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: TRANSFER THE MONEY OVER.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WAS GOING TO SAY.

>> PART OF THIS IS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE EVERYTHING CORRECT.

THIS IS NO PROBLEM. MOVING INTO BUDGETS.

I CALL THIS A BUDGET, BUT IT IS REALLY NOT.

AN ESTIMATED COST AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE ARE WORKING WITH. ON -- SLIDE 23.

THANK YOU. SORRY.

SLIDE 23 AND SLIDE 24 IS BASICALLY A SUMMARY OF THE ESTIMATED COSTS INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATIONS SO YOU CAN SEE THEM IN THE GLANCE BY PRECINCT. OF COURSE THERE ARE DIFFERENT ENGINEERS ASSIGNED TO EACH OF THESE AND THAT WILL DIFFER.

SLIDE NUMBER 25 IS JUST SHOWING WHAT I SAID A MOMENT AGO OF MEETING WITH THE DIFFERENT PRECINCTS AND RECAPPING WITH GLO AFTER WE RECOUNTED OUR MEETINGS. SLIDE NUMBER 26, I AM GOING TO PIVOT TO LENORE HELLMAN BECAUSE SHE WILL DO A FABULOUS JOB EXPLAINING THIS BUDGET. WHAT THIS IS REALLY QUICKLY IS -- THESE ARE SOME PARAMETERS FOR BUDGET CONSIDERING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT GUYS WE HAVE TO INCLUDE AS WELL AS EXPENSES FOR PLANS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. I WILL ALLOW LENORE TO EXPLAIN HOW THIS WORKS AND WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT.

LENORE, ARE YOU ON THE CALL? >> I AM, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> THANK YOU, NATALIE.

HELLO, COMMISSIONERS. PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER THE BUDGET TODAY PRETTY QUICKLY.

AS YOU KNOW YOU HAVE $31 MILLION AND CHANGE FOR YOUR TOTAL ALLEGATION. ENGINEERING IS 15% OF CONSTRUCTION COST, RIGHT. SO THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE AS THESE PROJECTS PROGRESS PARTICULARLY IF THAT POSITION ACQUISITION IS INVOLVED AND THE PLANNING.

WHAT YOU ARE SEEING ON THE SLIDE IS AN ESTIMATE UNTIL WE HAVE MORE CONCRETE DETAILS HOW MUCH ACQUISITION WILL BE ON SOME OF THE PROJECTS, BUT CONSTRUCTION COSTS LOOK LIKE IT WILL BEING $25,516,000 WHICH WAS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS INITIALLY PROPOSED IN THE APPLICATION MAINLY DUE TO THE ACQUISITION CHANGES. ONCE WE HAVE THAT FINAL DOWN, WE WILL C CONCRETE, 2,210 T,000 -- 2,210,800 TO RECONSIDER SOME

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OR SOME MAY BE LESS. DEPENDS ON WHAT THE PROJECT IS, AND WHAT IS NEEDED TO FULFILL THE MITIGATION NEEDS ON THEM.

WE PROBABLY WILL SEE A LOT OF SHIFTING OF OBJECTS AROUND.

AND TRY TO MAXIMIZE YOUR BUDGET AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE HERE.

ONE THING I WILL ADD THAT PLANNING DOES NOT ALSO GO INTO THE ENGINEERING GUYS BECAUSE IT IS CONSIDERED 100% ENGINEERING FEE. WHOEVER IS DOING THE PLANNING IS GETTING THAT FULL AMOUNT ESSENTIALLY.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DIDN'T HEAR THAT LAST PART.

YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT ENGINEERING GUYS.

WHAT WHICH WANT TO TOUCH ON, 15% IS TOO HIGH TO BE MAXED OUT ON.

THAT, ALONE, IS A LITTLE HIGH FOR ME.

I HAVE SEEN OTHER PROJECTS WITH ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURE IS INVOLVED AND NOT 15%. TO ME RIGHT OFF THE TOP IS PRETTY HIGH FOR THE PROJECTS I HAVE THAT ARE NOT I DON'T THINK VERY COMPLICATED PROJECTS AND WE WILL HAVE TO DO LAND ACQUISITION ON SEVERAL OF THEM. IMPLORE CONCERNED OF THE LAND ACQUISITION PORTIONS OF THE -- THE PLANNING.

BUT I HAVE THAT FACTORED IN -- YOU KNOW, WITH REGARDS TO MINE FACTORED IN. BUT -- SO, TO ME, RIGHT OFF THE TOP, THAT IS JUST A HIGH NUMBER AND IF WE NEED TO GO BACK AND NEGOTIATE WITH THE ENGINEERS ON THAT, WE NEED TO DO THAT.

THE FACT THERE IS NO LAND ACQUISITION IN HERE.

I THINK COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ HAS LAND ACQUISITION IN HIS PROJECTS. I HAVE LAND ACQUISITIONS IN MINE. AND I ALREADY CONSIDERED AND LAND ACQUISITION IN MINE WITH REGARDS TO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BREAKDOWN CAME ON THIS.

AND MAYBE IT IS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T MET YET, BUT I -- I AM A LITTLE -- I AM DEFINITELY DON'T -- AS FAR AS MINE GOES, RIGHT.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE OTHER FOUR MEMBERS OF THE COURT, BUT MY -- MY COSTS INCLUDED LAND ACQUISITIONS AND ENGINEERING COSTS AND THE COST OF THE PROJECT WHEN I WAS DOING MINE.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR LAND ACQUISITION ON HERE AND YOU HAVE MORE THAN I HAVE ALLOCATED FOR ENGINEERING, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT MEASURES UP WITH THE REST OF THE COURT.

SO MINE WERE ALL TURNKEY. >> WE DID SEE ACQUISITION IN THE APPLICATION. SO IT WAS ORIGINALLY ACCOUNTED FOR. BUT SOME OF IT WAS NOT CLEAR.

AND NOT EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED. IT WASN'T JUST EXTREMELY CLEAR WHERE IT WAS. WE WENT A LITTLE MORE IN-DEPTH ON IT. WE ARE ANTICIPATING ACQUISITION.

WE JUST DON'T WANT TO PUT A NUMBER DOWN QUITE YET UNTIL WE HAVE A CLOSER LOOK AT A FEW OF THEM.

IF YOU ARE CONFIDENT ON THOSE NUMBERS, WE CAN TAKE AND CAPTURE

THEM. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: KIND OF SEEMS LIKE WHAT YOU DID ON THIS. PUTTING THESE NUMBERS DOWN UNCLEAR WHAT THINGS WERE, AND NOW COME IN AND SHOW US WITH A $2.2 MILLION DEFICIT WHEN PROBABLY BEFORE YOU PRESENTED THIS, YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN WITH US TO GO THROUGH THAT TO BE MORE CLEAR SO IT WILL BE MORE ACCURATE BECAUSE I COULD HAVE TOLD NEW FIVE MINUTES, THAT I GOT ACQUISITION IN MIND.

I HAVE ENGINEERING COSTS IN MIND.

THAT WOULD HAVE CHANGED YOUR NUMBER RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE I AM

1/5 OF THESE PROJECTS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ALL OF

MINE HAVE ACQUISITION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THING IS VERY SKEWED AND WE NEED TO HAVE MEETINGS BEFORE WE PRESENT STUFF LIKE THIS, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS OFF.

>> I THINK THAT CAN BE CLEARED UP IN OUR PRIVATE MEETINGS WHEN YOU MEET WITH TWO AND TWO, POSSIBLY.

YOU CAN EVEN MAYBE START SOME OF THOSE LATER.

>> THANKS, LENORE. APPRECIATE IT.

YES, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, JUDGE.

COMMISSIONER, WE WILL -- THERE ARE SEVERAL QUESTIONS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDER STAND OF. SO WE WILL ADDRESS THOSE WHEN WE MEET. AND SO MOVING FORWARD, I AM ALSO GOING TO -- GOING TO HAND THIS OVER TO GARY SMITH WHO IS ALSO ON THE CALL. THERE ARE -- THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE IS ENGINEERING ITEMS. SO IF ANY OF THE ENGINEERS IN HERE HAVE WORKED WITH GRANTWORKS.

YOU PROBABLY HAVE SEEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS FROM US IN OUR SCOPE MEETINGS BEFORE AND SHOULD NOT TO BE A NEW.

BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR FROM OUR ENGINEERS IN THE COMING -- NEXT COMING WEEK OR SO.

SO GO AHEAD. GARY, IF YOU ARE THERE.

>> YES, NATALIE, THANK YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> SURE CAN. >> YEAH, GOOD TO BE WITH YOU, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. I AM GOING TO DISCUSS THE DELIVERABLES OR THE ENGINEERING ITEMS THAT WE NEED.

I HAVE WORKED WITH ALL OF YOU -- ALL OF YOU ENGINEERS IN THE ROOM. YEAH, ON MITIGATION, RV PROJECTS. YOU PROBABLY HAVE SEEN THESE ITEMS THAT WE NEED FROM YOU, BUT I WANTED TO GO OVER THEM QUICKLY, OR AS LONG AS YOU WANT TO DISCUSS.

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LOCATION OF ALL PROPOSED PROJECT ACTIVITIES.

VERY SPECIFICALLY LOCATED. ALSO THE GPS COORDINATES, INCLUDING THE MIDPOINT. PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ITEMS AND IT RELATES TO EVERYTHING WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING IS TO INCLUDE THE LOCATION OF THE BENEFICIARY AREA. WHO IS GOING TO BENEFIT FROM THIS PROJECT. THAT PART, WE CAN REALLY DETERMINE EXACTLY WHAT THE LMI RATE IS, PERCENT DAMAGE OF LMI PEOPLE BENEFITING AND THEN WE CAN -- AS NATALIE HAS DISCUSSED ALL THROUGHOUT IS THEN WE CAN GO TO THE PROJECTS AND DETERMINE, WELL, THIS IS ELIGIBLE. THIS ISN'T.

AND PUT THAT FORMULA TOGETHER FOR THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE COUNTYWIDE LMI. SO -- IF YOU NEED MORE SPECIFICS ON THIS, PLEASE REACH OUT ON -- TO ME FOR ANY OF THESE ITEMS. BUT FOR THE MAPS AND EXHIBITS, I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS ALL THIS -- THE LOCATION OF ALL THE STREETS AND WATERWAYS, AND, AGAIN, THE COORDINATES.

THE ESTIMATE AND THE BUDGET AS YOU KNOW, THE ENGINEERS KNOW, THERE IS A BUDGET JUSTIFICATION OF RETAIL COSTS, NOT TO -- NOT TO EXCEED. YOU WILL HAVE ALL THE BREAKDOWN OF THE DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS THAT YOU -- THAT YOU WANT TO ESTIMATE. HAND THIS IS -- THIS IS -- ALL OF THESE ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT BECAUSE -- BECAUSE IT GOES BACK TO -- IT RELATES TO HOW MUCH HOW MUCH PROJECT WE CAN DO IF WE HAVE TO HAVE OTHERS AND ADD SOME.

SIGN AND SEALED. WE WILL LOAD INTO INTO THE APPLICATION SYSTEM CALLED QUICKBASE.

AND WE NEED A DRAFT BECAUSE YOU, THE COUNTY AND COMMISSIONERS WILL BE DISCUSSING THAT AND WORK THROUGH THE FINAL VERSION OF THAT. ALSO, IN THE BOTTOM OF THAT FORM, THE OPERATION MAINTENANCE COSTS NEED TO BE INCLUDED.

WE HAVE BEEN GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE GLO THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO ADDRESS THAT, AT LEAST AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT THE COST OF O&M WILL BE. THE JUSTIFICATION.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE -- ONE OF THOSE GRANTWORKS REQUIREMENTS.

I THINK EVERYBODY REQUIRES IT NOW IS A JUSTIFICATION LEVEL FROM THE ENGINEER. WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT? WHAT IS THAT BENEFICIARY AREA? WHAT PROBLEM DOES IT ALLEVIATE OR MITIGATE RELATED TO THE DISASTER TIE BACK? NATALIE READ THE DEFINITION OF MITIGATION, BUT HERE IS WHERE YOU CAN DESCRIBE THE SEVERITY OF THE PROBLEM. NOW THIS -- NOW THIS RECURRING PROBLEM. THE SEVERITY AND HOW THIS PROGRAM WILL ADDRESS THAT NEED AND I KNOW THAT WILL COME IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMISSIONERS AND THEIR STAFF ON ONE OF THE BIGGEST -- WHERE THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS ARE.

THOSE ARE THE THREE ITEMS THAT WE WILL NEED AND WORK THROUGH.

AND OBVIOUSLY YOU WILL HAVE QUESTIONS AND WE WILL WORK THROUGH IT TOGETHER WITH THE COMMISSIONERS ON THAT.

AGAIN, TO THE ENGINEERING COSTS, THAT MAXIMUM OF 15%.

THIS IS WHERE -- AS YOUR -- AS YOUR QUALIFICATIONS, EXCUSE ME, YOUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS DISCUSSED, THIS IS NEGOTIABLE FOR ENGINEERS AND THAT 15% IS MAX AND THIS IS FOR -- WE NEED FOR TO YOU PROVIDE US AND THE COMMISSIONER WITH WHAT THE ESTIMATED ENGINEERING COSTS WOULD BE.

ONCE YOU GET THESE PROJECTS TOGETHER.

IT INCLUDES DESIGN BIDDING, CONSTRUCTION, CLOSE-OUT PHASES, NOT LIMITED TO SURVEYING MATERIALS, TESTING, ON-SITE INSPECTIONS, MAPPING, OVERSIGHT AND ENVIRONMENTAL SUPPORT WHICH WE WILL BE DOING. AND AT THAT POINT, WE CAN TIE THAT TOGETHER WITH THE CONSTRUCTION, WITH THE COMMISSIONERS AS WE TALKED ABOUT WILL BE INVOLVED WITH THAT AS FAR AS DETERMINING THE ENGINEERING COSTS.

SO NOW WHEN DO WE NEED THESE? WELL, THIS -- THIS IS -- THIS IS THE JUDGE AND NATALIE DISCUSSED. THIS EXTENSION LETTER, THE GLO PUT -- DIDN'T REQUEST OUR -- DIDN'T APPROVE OUR THREE-MONTH EXTENSION. WE ARE PUT THEY ARE PUTTING A TIGHT REIN ON US TO AT LEAST ASSESS THE SITUATION IN A MONTH.

SO THE URGENCY OF THIS PROJECT IS THERE.

YOU CAN GO TO THE ALLOCATION. WE HAVE GOT TO GET THIS SUBMITTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. BECAUSE ALL OF YOU GUYS ARE

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SO NEXT WEDNESDAY, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, WE COULD HAVE THESE AVAILABLE FOR US TO LOOK AT WITH THE COMMISSIONERS AND PERHAPS HAVE THOSE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGSES WITH ONE OR TWO COMMISSIONERS AFTER THAT TO REALLY TIE DOWN THE PROJECTS, ENGINEERING COSTS, SCOPE, AND WE CAN -- WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

NATALIE -- ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT?

>> THANKS, GARY, YOU DID A REALLY GREAT JOB COVERING THAT.

I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. DOES THE COURT HAVE QUESTIONS? THE ONLY THING I WANT TO EXPRESS IS THE AFTER THAT GARRETT -- BECAUSE IT IS HELPFUL WHEN WE HAVE OUR MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY THE PRELIMINARY BUDGETS AND MAPS, BECAUSE IT GIVES US SORT OF THE MEAT OF THE CONVERSATION.

THAT IS WHEN WE ARE GOING TO SIT DOWN AND REALLY DISCUSS WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH. AND ALSO THE ACQUISITIONS WILL BE IN THE ESTIMATES AND WE WILL KNOW WHAT TO TALK ABOUT WHEN WE MEET. WEDNESDAY IS REALLY -- IS GIVING CONSIDERATION TO THE ENGINEERS BECAUSE SOME OF Y'ALL MAY HAVE TO GO OUT TO THE SITES AND PROBABLY CONDUCT SITE VISITS IN ORDER TO IDENTIFY THE MAPS OR COMPLETE YOUR MAPS AND ESTIMATES

-- >>JUDGE SCOTT: DO ALL OUR ENGINEERS LOOK LIKE THIS IS POSSIBLE.

EVERYBODY SMILE. WE ARE ALL ON BOARD WITH THIS MOVING RIGHT ALONG? THANK YOU.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. IF WE CAN HAVE IT BY NOON NEXT WEDNESDAY, THAT GIVES US PLENTY OF TIME TO INTERNALLY START LOOKING AT THOSE MAPS AND BUDGETS.

WE CAN ALREADY SET MEETINGS WITH YOU GUYS FOR THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. WE CAN DO THAT.

AND ON SLIDE NUMBER 28, I AM GOING TO GO OVER A COUPLE OF THIS I THINK SO THAT ARE HELPFUL FOR YOU GUYS TO BE AWARE OF WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THESE PROJECTS.

LAND ACQUISITION. ALL PROJECTS MUST BE TURNKEY.

SO THE ACTIVITY CAN'T BE ONLY THE ACQUISITION, IT HAS TO BE THE MITIGATION, CONSTRUCTION PIECE TOO.

THEN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS. THIS SORT OF CAME UP A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WITH THE SAM REGISTRATION QUESTION, AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ADDRESS THIS.

WITH INTERLOCAL A AGREEMENTS WORKING WITH OTHER AGENCIES.

WE ARE WORKING WITH SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICTS AS WELL AS -- OR JUST UTILITY DISTRICTS AS WELL AS OTHER COMMUNITIES.

THERE WILL BE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO SIGN BETWEEN THEM. THE SAM.GOV REGISTRATION IS GOING -- WHAT WILL FALL BACK ON THE COUNTY.

WHOEVER THE APPLICANT IS. IN THIS CASE IT IS THE COUNTY.

SO THEY WILL GO BY YOUR OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS FOR FINANCIALS AND PROCUREMENT, AS WELL AS FOR YOUR SAM REGISTRATION.

SO AS LONG AS THE COUNTY'S SAM REGISTRATION IS CURRENT, YOU ARE GOLDEN. NOW I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS OVER MAYBE SOME CAPACITY TO MAINTAIN AND OPERATE IMPROVEMENTS IN SOME OF THESE OTHER AREAS.

THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH STIPULATE WHATEVER THE COUNTY WISHES IT TO STIPULATE. THE GLO DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT TYPE OF TRANSPARENCY, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY SURE CAN DO IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE IN THEIR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. WE WILL GIVE YOU DRAFTS OF THOSE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS, AND YOUR LEGAL TEAMS CAN REVIEW THEM AND REVISE THEM AS NECESSARY. SO JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. AND THEN SLIDE 29 IS ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW. THAT IS ALSO OUR WHOLE ENVIRONMENTAL TEAM AND DEPARTMENT WILL TAKE THAT ON FOR YOU GUYS. NOT SOMETHING ALL THIS HAVE TO CONTRACT OUT. WE WILL WORK WITH THE ENGINEERS AND GET US THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCES THAT ARE REQUIRED IN ORDER TO GET COP CONSTRUCTION STARTED WITH THESE PROJECTS. ON BENEFICIARY DOCUMENTATION.

WE HAVE A WHOLE SUPPORT STAFF, A WHOLE TEAM OF INDIVIDUALS, THIS IS ALL THEY DO IS SURVEYS AND THEN THEY COMPLY -- THEN THEY ANALYZE THAT DATA, AND THEY PUT THESE REPORTS TOGETHER FOR US TO SUBMIT WITH THE GRANTS. SO I UNDERSTAND THE COUNTY ALREADY HAS 1078 THAT THE UNITED STATES MILITARY COMPLETED FOR

YOU GUYS. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: IRTS, YES.

>> WHAT OUR JOB SOMEBODY GOING TO BE TO GET THOSE SURVEYS.

WE WILL NEED THOSE ACTUAL SURVEYS THAT WERE TAKEN.

WE WILL NEED TO REVIEW THEM BECAUSE GLO HAS THEIR OWN FORMS. WE NEED TO JUST MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL THE CORRECT DATA ACCORDING WHAT GLO'S EXPECTATIONSES ARE.

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>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: AM I SAYING THE RIGHT THING?

>> YEAH. >>JUDGE SCOTT: THERE WAS AN OKAY

ON THAT, ANA. >> IF EVERYTHING COMES OUT OF IT AND WE HAVE TO RESURVEY THE AREAS, WE WILL.

AND WE WILL GIVE YOU ALL THE SUPPORT YOU NEED TO GET THAT DONE, AS WELL AS THE NOTIFICATION TO SEND OUT TO THE COMMUNITIES. WE WILL GUIDE YOU ALL THROUGH

THAT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: JUST

FOR CLARIFICATION. >> YES, SIR.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ALL MY PROJECTS ALREADY INCLUDE THE ACQUISITION, EXCEPT FOR ONE, BUT THAT ONE DOESN'T NEED IT.

THAT IS WHY IT DOESN'T SHOW IT. >> THE PLANNING ONE.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: LAND ACQUISITION.

SO THERE IS ALWAYS -- ALL OF THEM ARE ALREADY INCLUDED EXCEPT FOR ONE. BUT IT DOESN'T NEED ONE.

>> OKAY. SO WHEN WE SEE THE BUDGETS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE ENGINEERS WILL HAVE TO FILL OUT ON THEIR TABLE 2 FORMS, THE FORMER BUDGET USED BY GLO, A PIECE IN THERE FOR ACQUISITION AND THAT IS WHERE THEY WILL INCLUDE IT AND SO THAT'S HOW WE WILL KNOW. RIGHT NOW WE ARE WORK AGO ON GETTING ACCESS TO YOUR GRANT PAR TOLL FOR THE MIT MOD AND DOWNLOAD WHATEVER IS WITH THE APPLICATION.

ANA IS ALREADY WORKING WITH US ON THAT.

AND ONCE WE ARE ABLE TO GET IN AND SEE IT, WE WILL KNOW MORE OF THE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED.

SLIDE NUMBER 30, THINGS WE WILL NEED.

SO -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: LONG LIST?

>> NOT AS BAD AS IT SEEMS. THESE ARE JUST THINGS THAT WE WILL NEED ALONG THE WAY BECAUSE GLO WILL WANT TO SEE THEM.

SO RECENT -- MOST RECENT AUDIT THAT WE CAN PROBABLY FIND ON YOUR WEB SITE, I AM GUESSING, THE ONE -- IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. AND DUPLICATION OF BENEFITS IF THAT IS NECESSARY. WHAT THAT IS, IF WE ARE GOING TO DOUBLE -- IF WE ARE DUPLICATING BENEFITS FROM ANOTHER PROGRAM, WE WILL NEED TO KNOW THAT. BUT THOSE WILL WILL BE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE WILL HAVE WHEN MEETING WITH THESE INDIVIDUALLY. THAT IS ANOTHER REASON FOR THE COMMINGLING OF FUNDS. IT IS DEFINITELY NOT ADVISED BUT CASE BY CASE ASSESSMENTS SHOULD DEFINITELY BE HAD.

AND WE WILL DISCUSS THOSE. JUST THAT A LOT OF TIMES THE TIMELINES BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS DON'T LINE UP.

AND CREATES ISSUES DURING IMPLEMENTATION.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE THINGS PRETTY CLOSELY.

AND THEN A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN AND, OF COURSE, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS THAT WILL NEED TO GO THROUGH COURT, POTENTIALLY.

I SAY "POTENTIALLY" BECAUSE POSSIBLE THAT Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT GETTING APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED AND WE WILL REVIEW THOSE ITEMS. OTHER ITEMS. THESE ARE THINGS THAT WILL BE NEED TO BE SIGN IS AND SUBMITTED AS WELL AS. THE SF 424.

A FINANCIAL FORM THAT GLO REQUIRES TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE WHO YOU SAY YOU ARE. AND THEN LOCAL CERTIFICATE.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY A PUBLIC HEARING, POSTING OF ENVIRONMENTAL FORM -- ENVIRONMENTAL EXEMPTION FORM.

REALLY THE PUBLIC HEARING DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH WE HAVE TO CHANGE WITH THESE PROJECTS, YOU MAY HAVE TO DO ANOTHER ONE.

BUT WE WILL NO MORE WRITE ONCE WE START HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS. SO JUST DEPENDS.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: POSSIBLY AFTER THE NEXT WEEK.

>> YES, MA'AM, YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM.

SO -- SO REALLY THAT CONCLUDES ALL THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS THAT MAYBE COME TO MIND THAT WE CAN ADDRESS NOW? OR IF WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR, WE WILL GET ONE FOR YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? >>JUDGE SCOTT: ANYONE, ANY QUESTIONS? NO? I THINK MOVING FORWARD, WE HAVE A PLAN.

I THINK WE ALL ARE PRETTY UNIFIED WITH THAT PLAN, IT

SOUNDS LIKE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: VERY

GOOD. >>JUDGE SCOTT: A GREAT START.

GOOD START. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YO

YOU. >> YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU, JUDGE.

ONLY QUESTION, WHO WOULD YOU LIKE US TO COORDINATE TO SET UP A MEETING WITH ANA. AND IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE?

>>JUDGE SCOTT: PROBABLY ANA. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF YOU LOOK AT OUR PROJECTS WHICH YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE BECAUSE YOU MADE SOME IMPLICATION OR INNUENDO WE MIGHT HAVE TO CHANGE THEM. ANYTHING YOU CAN SEND US BEFORE WE MEET TO LOOK AT, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE -- LIKE JOHN SAID, A PROJECT I NEED TO SCRAP, I NEED TO KNOW WHY.

AND THEN I WILL NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO GO FROM THERE AND REASSESS AND ALL OF THAT AND EASIER TO GET THAT IN ADVANCE OF MEETING WITH YOU AND I WILL SIT DOWN AND GO AND COME BACK.

>> I DON'T WANT TO WASTE YOUR TIME.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: OR WASTE YOURS OR WASTE HAVING THE ENGINEERS IN THE ROOM. I AM READIED TO GO.

IF MY PROJECT HAS A PROBLEM, I NEED TO KNOW.

AND I CAN GET THE MEETING SET WITH MY OFFICE.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHOSE PROJECT IS ON THE LIST AND WHAT THAT MAY

BE. >> I THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEA.

THANKS. WE WILL DO THAT.

I WILL GET YOU SOME INFORMATION AHEAD OF TIME.

I WILL DO THE SAME FOR THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE IT SEEMS

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AND THEN THE IDEA THAT WE HAD WAS -- AND MAYBE -- MAYBE THIS DOESN'T WORK FOR YOU GUYS, MAYBE DO TWO COMMISSIONERS IN THE MORNING SESSION. AND THEN TWO COMMISSIONERS IN THE AFTERNOON SESSION, THE THURSDAY, FRIDAY, MAYBE WE CAN

DO IT THAT WAY. >>JUDGE SCOTT: ANA CAN PROBABLY

SET THAT UP WITH THE OFFICES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: BETTER FOR THE ENGINEERS TOO. THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME TO FIVE MEETINGS AND THAT IS IMPORTANT. BUT YOU MIGHT --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: MIGHT BE GOOD TO SET THEM UP WITH THE ENGINEERS

AND THE PROJECTS AND THE GROUPS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK WE ALL -- ANYWAY, THE OTHER THING TOO -- BECAUSE I KNOW -- AND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ LEANED OVER TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER THING SAYING HIS WAS ALL-INCLUSIVE TOO.

I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYONE ELSE DID IT, BUT THAT'S HOW I DID IT SAT DOWN WITH JUAN AND WENT THROUGH -- I AM A TURNKEY GUY.

WHEN I GET THESE EXTRA COSTS, IT MAKES ME MAD.

NOT FROM YOU, BUT OTHER PROJECTS I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH RIGHT NOW.

BUT I KIND OF GO IN TURNKEY. MY NUMBER WAS A TURNKEY NUMBER BASED ON US SITTING DOWN WITH THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY AND COSTING IT OUT. SOUNDS LIKE THAT IS WHAT COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ DID TOO. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHERS.

AND I THINK WE WILL NEED TO GET A HANDLE ON THAT PRETTY QUICK BECAUSE I THINK THAT BUDGET NUMBER WILL CHANGE.

IT WILL ON MINE, FOR SURE. I AM ON THE LOW END.

I AM THE SMALLEST AMOUNT. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, HE DID IT SAME AND I THINK WE WILL SEE THAT DEFICIT GO BY QUICK.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: NEXT WEEK'S MEETING.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE PROBABLY ALL DID, BUT I DON'T

KNOW -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: THINGS HAVE CHANGED. OKAY.

LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. THANK YOU.

NEXT THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THANK

YOU VERY MUCH -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: COMMISSIONERS, TRY TO MAKE YOURSELF AVAILABLE NEXT THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, EITHER

MORNING OR AFTERNOON. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NEXT

THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. >>JUDGE SCOTT: NEXT THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. LET ANA KNOW IF YOU ARE ONLY AABLE FOR ONE SO YOU CAN SET IT UP PRETTY QUICKLY.

AND LET YOU KNOW. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO THURSDAY AND FRIDAY.

MORNING AND AFTERNOON? WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING?

>> TWO COMMISSIONERS IN THE MORNING AND TWO COMMISSIONERS IN THE AFTERNOON WITH THEIR ENGINEERS.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THURSDAY OR FRIDAY OR -- I AM TRYING --

>> THURSDAY DO THE TWO COMMISSIONERS MORNING AND

AFTERNOON -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: IN THE I

MICROPHONE, WE ARE STILL ON. >> TIME SORRY.

THANK YOU. THURSDAY, LET'S GO WITH THURSDAY. HAVE TWO COMMISSIONERS MEET ON THE MORNING SESSION WITH THEIR ENGINEERS.

AND THEN WE CAN DO TWO COMMISSIONERS IN THE AFTERNOON WITH THEIR ENGINEERS. AND --

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I CAN DO THURSDAY AFTERNOON IF -- I WILL

JUST JUMP IN FIRST -- >>JUDGE SCOTT: ARE YOUR ENGINEERS AVAILABLE THOSE DAYS TOO.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I HAVE THREE PROJECTS AND THREE ENGINEERS SO -- I AM GOING TO SPREAD IT AROUND.

>> WANT TO BE FAIR. AND THEN, JUDGE, YOU KNOW, YOU GET TO PICK. IS FRIDAY OKAY --

>>JUDGE SCOTT: I AM AVAILABLE EITHER.

I WILL MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE FOR BEHAVIOR WORKS WITH YOU ALL.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: 2:00 ON THURSDAY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

>> LET'S DO PROBABLY 1:30 ON THURSDAY AFTERNOON SESSION.

1:30. SO WE HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH BOTH COMMISSIONERS' THINGS. IN THE MORNING WE START AT 9:00.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MAYBE 1:45.

I HAVE A MEETING ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET HERE BY 1:30.

>> IS 2:00 BETTER FOR YOU. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF IT IS OKAY FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. I DON'T THINK MINE WILL TAKE THAT LONG. I WILL SAY 2:00.

WHOEVER WANTS TO JUMP IN WITH ME AT 2:00.

I WOULD LIKE THE AFTERNOON. >> 9:00 SESSION AND A 2:00 SESSION. AND YOU TELL US WHO WILL BE ON

WHICH. >>JUDGE SCOTT: WE WILL HAVE THEM ALL NEXT DOOR IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM.

THEY CAN HAVE THE ROOM FOR THE DAY.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUMP UP AND HANG OUT WITH ME.

COME ON. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I HAVE A LOT OF MEETINGS THAT DAY. I AM AVAILABLE FRIDAY.

ANY TIME FRIDAY, AND IT WILL BE BOOKED.

>> YOU CAN GO WITH THE JUDGE. A TIME ON FRIDAY THAT IS MORE

CONVENIENT FOR THE TWO OF YOU? >>JUDGE SCOTT: I DON'T HAVE MY CALENDAR IN FRONT OF ME. I BROUGHT THE WRONG PHONE.

WE WILL MAKE IT WORK FRIDAY. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: ANY TIME

FRIDAY. >>JUDGE SCOTT: I WILL MOVE

THINGS AROUND. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: TELL ME

AND I WILL BE THERE. >> WITH WE WILL COORDINATE.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: 9:00 IN THE MORNING IS PERFECT FOR ME.

BECAUSE I HAVE A 11:00. OKAY, SO PERFECT.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM IN FOR O'CLOCK ON THURSDAY, WHOEVER

ELSE JUMP IN. >> THURSDAY AFTERNOON DO THE

MORNING. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I WILL DO THE MORNING. WHAT TIME IN THE MORNING?

>> 9:00. THEN COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, JUMP

IN. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: 9 AND 2:00.

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AND WE WILL DO FRIDAY. >> SOUNDS GOOD.

THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I GUESS WILL SOMEONE LET THE ENGINEERS KNOW WHO -- BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THEY KNOW TO HAS BEEN ASSIGN

TO STUFF. >>JUDGE SCOTT: THEY KNOW.

THEY ARE LISTENING. >> GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

WHAT I WILL DO GENTLEMEN AND LADIES, I WILL MAKE A LIST OF YOUR PROJECTS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO YOU GUYS AND SEND THEM TO YOU. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE IT SPLIT BY PRECINCT. THAT IS MORE FOR US, BUT FOR YOU GUYS IT WILL BE HELPFUL TO KNOW WHICH ONES IN THE LIST ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU. I WILL DO THAT.

BETWEEN ANA AND I WILL GET CORRESPONDENCE OUT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW OF THE MEETINGS TIME.

>>JUDGE SCOTT: PERFECT. I THINK THAT WILL WORK.

APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THANKS

FOR EVERYBODY BEING HERE TOO. >>>JUDGE SCOTT: THANK YOU, GUYS.

YOUR TIME IS VALUABLE. WE APPRECIATE THAT.

IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS? ANY ADJOURNMENTS IN MEMORY? THERE BEING NONE, I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

10:27 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.