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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> JUDGE: INVOCATION AND PLEDGES.

I WILL DO THE IMPLICATION. MOST GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY, LORD.

WE ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AS WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS AND COUPLE OF WEEKS.

I KNOW THAT THEY ARE DIFFICULT POSITIONS FOR ALL OF US.

WE ASK THAT YOU HELP US PUT ASIDE OUR DIFFERENCES, PUT ASIDE OUR OPINIONS, POLITICAL OPINIONS AND DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THIS COUNTY . WE PRAY FOR ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES, DEPARTMENTS, THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.

THE GROUPS ARE HELPING US, BUT THESE NUMBERS, THE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE MADE CUTS AND THEIR OWN DEPARTMENTS.

LORD, WE KNOW THIS IS A DIFFICULT TASK FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED. WE PRAY FOR GUIDANCE FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US. WE ASK FOR YOUR CONTINUED PRAYERS FOR OUR MILITARY AND THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE FAR AWAY IN HERE AT HOME. BE WITH US, BE WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US. HELP US DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND TO DO IT IN YOUR NAME AND GIVE YOU THE GLORY AND THE HONOR FOR EACH AND EVERY PIECE OF IT. IN JESUS NAME I PRAY, AMEN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICHIT STANDS , ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. IT IS 9:12, AND WE HAVE A QUORUM OF ALL MEMBERS PRESENT. IT IS MONDAY, AUGUST 21 AND WE ARE AT NINE: 901 LEOPARD. WE WILL BEGIN.

IF THERE IS ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, WAS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, DO YOU KNOW? THERE WAS NO ONE SIGNED UP FOR

[4. BUDGET WORKSHOP: The Court will discuss matters related to the FY 2023-24 Budget.]

PUBLIC COMMENT, SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GO STRAIGHT INTO HER PUBLIC BUDGET WORKSHOP. I SEE WE HAVE THEHOSPITAL DISTRICT HERE . IF WE COULD COMFORTLESS TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT 1ST SO THEY CAN GET OUT OF HERE AND GET BACK OVER AT THAT IS ALL RIGHT WITH EVERYONE.

I KNOW YOU HAD A MEETING AND YOU HAD SOME THINGS THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE WITH IN THE FUTURE, OR POSSIBLY

CONTINUOUS, YES. >> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS JOHN PAUL'S, I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING - - WE I HAVE MR. JOHNNY OUR CEO.

I DON'T WEAR MY GLASSES TOO OFTEN, BUT I DO HAVE A JOHNNY PRESENTS AS A BUDGET. I THINK YOU WILL HAVE A COPY OF IT. WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO VERSIONS JUDGE.WE HAVE GIVEN YOU VERSION NUMBER ONE, AND WE WILL BE HANDING OUT VERSION NUMBER TWO.

OUR CURRENT TAX RATE IS.098846. IN VERSION 1, I WILL GIVE YOU THE HIGHLIGHTS, I WON'T GO THROUGH EVERY LINE ITEM LIST YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO. WE WILL EXPLAIN EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THEIR IF YOU SEE SOMETHING YOU WILL LIKE US TO PULL OUT AND TALK IN MORE DETAIL.

VERSION NUMBER ONE IS A NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE.

WITH THAT TAX RATE, THAT WOULD REFLECT, YOU SEE AT THE VERY TOP OF PAGE 2. .09163 WHICH IS WELL BELOW ARE CURRENT RATE. WITH THAT NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE, THE REVENUE GENERATED FOR US AND THE EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE WILL IMPACT THE COUNTY RATE GREATLY.

IT'S EXHIBIT C. AT THAT TAX RATE WITH THE NO NEW REVENUE

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RATE, THESE ARE ALL THE PROGRAMS OF THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT CURRENTLY FUNDS TO THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY EXPENDS THOSE FORMS. THE WAY THE STRUCTURE IS NOW, WE'LL SPECIFY WHERE YOU PUT THE MONEY.

WE PUT THE MONEY WHERE YOU THINK IT IS GOING TO BE PUT FOR THE MOST PART, THE NUMBER WOULD BE THE SAME.

NUMBER ONE IS AMENDED AND HEALTH SERVICES, SAME AS PREVIOUS YEAR. ALL THE CRITICAL SERVICES AT THE HOSPITAL THE CHURCH PROVIDES, IN PARTICULAR THE SERVICES THAT ARE MANDATED BY THE COUNTY TO BE PROVIDED, WE ARE CONTINUING TO FUND AT THE SAME LEVEL.

IF YOU LOOK AT NUMBER ONE, IS THE SAME AS WELL AS THE DIVERSION. THE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE DEPARTMENT IS BEING SHIFTED TO ANOTHER LINE ITEM.

ITEM NUMBER TWO IS THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT EXPENDITURES.

I KNOW THE JUDGE AND COMMISSIONER GONZALES WILL MATE WITH THE CITY STAFF AND WE ARE OF THE CONTRIBUTION FOR THE NEXT YEAR, HEALTH DEPARTMENT EXPENSES.

WE ARE FINDING THAT ONE, AND THERE ARE A FEW OTHER ITEMS EMBEDDED IN THEIR. THERE IS AN OUTREACH PROGRAM FOR THE MOBILE CLINIC. I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER GONZALES, THAT IS YOUR PROGRAM. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A LEGISLATIVE MANDATE TO PROVIDE SERVICES.

HERE IS ONE ITEM THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT CLOSELY.

JUDGE, I KNOW THAT YOU ARE ALREADY ON TOP OF THIS.

ITEM NUMBER THREE IS MEDICAL SERVICES WHICH THE AMBULANCE SERVICES OUT IN THE RURAL AREAS IN THE CITY OF ROB'S TOWN.

WE'RE GOING TO REPROCESS, I BELIEVE JUDGE YOU ARE SPEARHEADING THAT IN AUDITING THAT PROGRAM TO FIND OUT WHEN THERE IS SOMEBODY TRANSPORTED VIA AMBULANCE IF WHICHEVER DISTRICT IS PROVIDING THE SERVICES IS ACTUALLY BILLING AND RECEIVING REVENUE OFF OF THAT SILICATE BASICALLY COME

BACK IN AND REPLENISH THE FUND. >> AS AND SOMETIMES, INSURANCE PROCEEDS OR PEOPLE PRIVATELY PAY WHEN THEY GET SOMETHING.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. THE COLLECTION RATE USUALLY IS NOTIMMEDIATE . AT THE PROGRAM WE'RE LOOKING AT. THE JUDGE REALLY HAS HER MICROSCOPE ON IT. WE ARE ALSO PROVIDING ASSISTANCE TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, THE JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER.

THAT AMOUNT HAS BEEN TRIMMED DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT.

I THINK 57,000 WAS RELATED TO SOME HEALTHCARE EXPENSES FOR THE EMPLOYEES. THE RECENT HABIT A LITTLE REDUCES BECAUSE HE WOULD NOT SAY IT THAT THE COUNTY WOULD CONTINUE TO SAME AMOUNT OF STAFF UP THERE.

EVERYONE IS GOING THROUGH A HARD BUDGET TIME WITH BUDGETING THRILLS AND UTILIZE. THAT'S WHERE THE MEMBER IS A

LITTLE BIT LOW. >> IF YOU DON'T MIND, CAN ADD SOMETHING ABOUT NUMBER ONE ON THE JAIL BASE COMPETENCY RESTORATION? I WAS IN A DEPARTMENT HEAD MEETING AND THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE SAID BECAUSE OUR STATE HOSPITALS AND OTHER FUNCTIONS ARE TAKING 100 DAYS, 600 100 DAYS, IF YOU TRY TO GO THROUGH THEIR BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO SEE IF A PERSON IS COMPETENT TO STAND TRIAL OR DEFEND THEMSELVES. THIS IS A VITAL PART OF SLOWING DOWN THE PROCESS OR SPEEDING UP THE PROCESS AND GETTING THE PEOPLE ABLE TO GO TO TRIAL OR WHATEVER IT IS.

I JUST READ THAT THIS MORNING, I'M NOT REALLY FAMILIAR WITH IT. CAN YOU TELL ME IN YOUR OPINION

BUT THIS IS TOO. >> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. WITH REGARDS TO ITEM - - SOME OF THEM IS IN HER NECK SUGGESTED BUDGET IN THIS VERSION. THEY ARE ZEROED OUT.

WE WENT THROUGH ENTITIES COUNTY EXPENDITURES AND MADE A DETERMINATION ON OUR SIDE THAT WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS ESSENTIAL.

>> YOU HAD CATS TOO, YOUR BUDGET HAS BEEN IMPACTEDAS WELL

. >> WE DID THAT WITH THE BENEFIT OF THE DAS OFFICE HAVING AN INPUT.

THAT'S THE PART OF THE WORKSHOP COMMITTEE TO GET THAT".

WE WENT TO THESE PROGRAMS AND WHAT WE ARRIVED AT WERE, THERE ARE BASICALLY THREE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE TO WORK IN TANDEM WITH EACH OTHER THAT WE WERE GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE

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RETAIN AND NOT REDUCE. THAT WOULD BE THE CRISIS INTERVENTIONTEAM . AFTER THE CITY POLICE OFFICERS, OFFICER BARNES HAS BEEN HERE BEFORE YOU ALL.

POSSIBLE - - AS MANY ARE FROM PRECINCT 2. I'VE TALKED TO ALL OF THE PURCHASE OF THE PROGRAM. OFFICER BARNES SAID HIS LAST TIME HE WAS BEFORE YOU ALL THAT THEY FELT LIKE THEY WERE A YEAR OR TWO OUT BEFORE THOSE WHICH WOULD BE THE PREEMINENT PROGRAM IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. WE WERE SO FAR AHEAD OF EVERYONE ELSE. I THINK THE MAYOR AT HER ADDRESS LAST WEEK SAID, MENTIONED THAT THE CITY WAS PUTTING IN MORE OFFICERS. MORE SPECIFICALLY TO YOUR QUESTION, THE JAIL BASE COMPETENCY RESTORATION PROGRAM DID NOT MAKE A LIST. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY INPUT FROM ANYONE AT THE DAS OFFICE ABOUT WHETHER THAT PROGRAM WAS NEEDED.IT WAS IN THE PROGRAMS I GOT ZEROED OUT BECAUSE ON OUR

SIDE IT WAS HARD TO MEASURE. >> JUDGE: I TOLD HER THAT, SHE NEEDED TO GET WITHYOU ALL AND EXPLAIN THAT .

TODAY, I TOLD HER. >> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, THE END OF THE DAY, WE ARE LOOKING FOR YOUR ALSO PUT ON THESE PROGRAMS. THAT WAS ONE WHERE IT SEEMS LIKE EVEN THOUGH WAS THE LOWEST-COST PROGRAM, WE CANNOT GAUGE THE COST-EFFECTIVENESS OF IT.

ONCE WE GO THROUGH AND GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, IT COULD BE BACK ON THE LIST TO FUND FOR NEXT YEAR.

>> AS I SAID, I AM NOT THAT FAMILIAR .

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT THEY WILL BE CALLING.

SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE, AGAIN LET ME BACK UP. THE BOARD HAD A BUDGET WORKSHOP MEETING LAST WEEK AND WE WERE PRESENTED WITH TWO VERSIONS.

WE GOT THERE A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL ON BOTH VERSIONS AND AT THAT POINT, WE WILL SELECT ONE AND THAT IS THE ONE WE WILL FORWARD TO THE COURT FOR CONSIDERATION.

ITEM 1B, SOME OF THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN ZEROED OUT.

IT'S NOT ESSENTIAL BUT NOT VITAL TO OUR MISSION STATEMENT.

OUR MISSION IS TO COME FIRST. BUT THE MOBILE VERSION 2. YOU WILL GET YOU HOPEFULLY WHERE YOU WANT TO BE.

IF WE CAN GET DOWNTO ITEM 5 WHICH OF THE COUNTY HEALTH CARE SERVICES, THAT THE MANDATE , STATE-MANDATED THE COUNTY CAN PROVIDE HEALTHCARE FOR ANY INMATE IN THE COUNTY JAIL.

WHEN AN INMATE IS IN THE COUNTY JAIL, THEY ARE AUTOMATICALLY COVERED BY MEDICAID OR THE STATE PROGRAM WHICH OF THE PROGRAM AT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT ESTABLISHED FOR AND FUNDS. ITEM 6 A AND 6D AND SEVEN AND EIGHT, YOU WILL SEE OTHERS ARE ALL ZEROED OUT.BASED ON THE KNOWN REVENUE RATE THAT WE HAV , THESE PROGRAMS ARE ZEROED OUT BECAUSE AGAIN, WE SAW THEM AS NONESSENTIAL.

THEY ARE NECESSARY FOR THE COUNTY AND FOR THE COMMUNITY, WE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WE ARE ALL FACING A BUDGET CRUNCH YEAR AND THESE ARE THE PROGRAMS WE FELT WE CAN MOST TRY TO PICK UP AGAIN THE FOLLOWING BUDGET YEAR.

>> DID YOU ALSO GET THE DIABETES?

>> ON NUMBER SEVEN YOU MEAN? COMMISSIONER, THIS IS VERSION 1. I THINK YOU WILL PREFER VERSION 2 A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT I WILL SHOW YOU WHAT WE ARE FACED WITH WITH THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE. ITEM 9 IS SOME OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH GRANTS. WE HAVE ZEROED THOSE OUT BUT ALLOCATED FUNDING FOR THE - - PROGRAM.

WE HAVE SINCE HAD INPUT ON THE TWO ABOVE IT, THEY WORK IN TANDEM ALL THREE OF THEM. I THINK YOU WILL SEE THAT IN

VERSE NUMBER TWO. >> HOW MANY BIRDS DO YOU HAVE?

>> JUST TWO. 17.

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[LAUGHTER]. >> COMMISSIONER, YOU HAVE A VERYHEAVY DOCKET SO YOU WANT TO GET THROUGH IT AS SOON AS

POSSIBLE . >> I APPRECIATE THAT, I WAS

ASKING. >> ON VERSION NUMBER TWO, YOU WILL NOTICE THE HIGHLIGHTED BULLET POINTS.

THIS VERSION INCORPORATES A 4% ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.

THE MAXIMUM IS 8%. HOSPITAL DISTRICT ARE UNIQUE AND NOT AS SUBJECTED TO THE THREE, 3.5% AS COUNTIES AND CITIES ARE. IF YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE WERE AT 5% BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER PROGRAMS FOR THE COUNTY AND YOU ALL ADOPTED IT WITH THE 5% INCREASE. WE ARE STILL LOWER THAN THE TAX RATE IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR. IF YOU WILL GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, PAGE 2 WHICH IS THE COLOR COLUMNS, THE VERY TOP YOU WILL SEE THAT THE TAX RATE FOR THIS PARTICULAR VERSION IS .085242 WHICH IS SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE WOMAN PRESENTED IN VERSION 1.

HOWEVER, THE AMOUNT BEING AT THE 4% ALLOWS US TO GENERATE JUST ENOUGH REVENUE TO CONTINUE TO FUND SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED HERE TODAY.

LET ME GET YOU GOING TO THE BACK AREA.

THE LAST PAGE, EXHIBIT C, OTHER COUNTY PROGRAMS THAT WE FIND.

LET ME PREFACE ALL THAT BY SAYING WE DON'T DIRECT THIS MONEY SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT PROGRAM.

WE ALLOCATED TO THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY ALLOCATED TO THOSE PROGRAMS. ALL THOSE AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE PROGRAM. SOME ARE CONTRACTUAL AND SOME ARE DEPARTMENTAL. WE ARE FORMALIZING THESE AGREEMENTS BETWEEN US AND THE COUNTY SO THE MONEY IS SPECIFIC TO THE PROGRAM. IN THE PAST, IT HAS BEEN A GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT AND A LOT OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE LEGACY PROGRAMS. IF YOU'LL NOTICE, THIS ONE WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLEX.

EVERYTHING EXCEPT ITEM C IS BACK IN.

WITH THE 4% ABOVE THE NEW REVENUE RATE, WE ARE ABLE TO FIND ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT WE FIND IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR NEXT YEAR. EVEN THOSE 4% ABOVE THE KNOWN REVENUE RATE, IT IS STILL A TAX RATE DECREASE CURRENTLY IS IT WOULD GO DOWN TO.08542. IT WOULD STILL BE A DECREASE IN OUR CURRENT TAX RATES. YOU SEE COMMISSIONER GONZALES, NUMBER SEVEN: THE DIABETES PROGRAM, THAT FUNDING HAS BEEN PUT BACK IN. WE HAD TIME TO NOT BUDGET WORKSHOP AND NOW TO BASICALLY VALIDATE SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS. THE FIRST VERSION WAS GIVING YOU THE NO NEW REVENUE RATES. THIS ONE IS FOR PERCENT ABOVE THE TAX RATE WHICH GIVES YOU A LITTLE MORE REVENUE TO FUND THESE PROGRAMS BUT FORTUNATELY ENOUGH, IT ALSO BRINGS DOWN THE

TAX RATE AT THE SAME TIME. >> I THINK AND YOUR TAX RATE ON THE FIRST ONE, YOU SAID 09. THIS ONE SAYS 081963.

>> 09 IS THE CURRENT TAX RATE. IT WAS NOT WRITTEN ON HERE,

SORRY. >> I THOUGHT I WAS READING THIS WRONG .09846 IS OUR CURRENT RATE.

VERSION NUMBER TWO WILL BRING OUR RATE TO.85242.

IT IS STILL A DECREASE. THE BOY WAS LEANING TOWARDS - -. A LOT OF TIMES APPEAR WE ARE AT $0.28.

THAT IS NOT MUCH. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TRYING TO

SAY. >> FORTUNATELY, IS STILL A

DECREASE. >> I AM SAYING THAT IS A GOOD

THING. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

WE THOUGHT THAT WE DO NOT NECESSARILY NEED TO TAKE IT UP TO THE 8%, IT WOULD GENERATE ENOUGH REVENUE TO CONTINUE TO

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FUND ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU SAW ZEROED OUT.

BECAUSE 26, SEVEN OR EIGHT BUT WE DO NOT NEED THE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THE FOUR IN THE EIGHTH GRADE THEY WANTED TO GET TO A PERCENTAGE WHERE GENERATE ENOUGH REVENUE TO FUND THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE ALREADY ZEROED OUT.DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> YES, THANK YOU. >> YOU WILL TO THELAST PAGES EVERYTHING FIND IT AGAIN . WE ARE FORTUNATE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT. MAYBE THAT'S WHY THE LEGISLATOR LEFT THE HOSPITAL TO GET 8%. OUR TAX RATE IS PRETTY LOW AND HAS BEEN GOING DOWN THE PRICE VALUES HAVE BEEN GOING UP SUBSTANTIALLY, SO WE ARE IN PRETTY GOOD POSITION.

ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE LAST PAGE OF THE COUNTY PROGRAMS THAT WE

FUND? >> WHAT POSITIONS ARE NOT BEING

COVERED UNDER ITEM 1C? >> WE USED TO HAVE THE MENTAL HEALTH DIRECTOR AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND I THINK THEY HAD AN ASSISTANT. NOW THEY HAVE MOVED OUT TO ROB'S TOWN, IS UNDER DIFFERENT LINE ITEM.

>> THEY ARE STILL THE SAME PEOPLE .

>> THEY MOVED TO LINE ITEM 2? BASICALLY THE SAME MONEY BUT

THERE IS RELABELING? >> IT'S ON TO BECOME A ROB'S TIME PUBLIC HEALTH, COMMISSION YOU SEE THAT? IT IS COVERED IN THERE. WE ARE NOT LIMITING FUNDING THOSE POSITIONS, THEY HAD JUST BEEN MOVED TO ANOTHERDEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTY . WE HAD TO MOVE THEM TO A DIFFERENT LINE ITEM ON THE BUDGET.

WE HAPPY TO REPORT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO FIND ALL THE COUNTY PROGRESS. THE COURT CONSIDERS ALL THESE ESSENTIALS OTHERWISE WOULD NOT HAVE HAD THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. ESPECIALLY THE ONES THE BOTTOM THAT TOUCHED THE COMMUNITY MOST IMMEDIATELY IS TYPICALLY COMMISSIONERS AND THEIR FATHER ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THESE

PROGRAMS. >> COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD LIKE TO DISCLOSE BY SAYING THAT THE BUDGET VERSION 2 COVERS BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD DONE LAST YEAR.WE MEET OUR CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY - - AT THE NEW MENTAL HEALTH FUNDING WHICH SUPPORT IN THECOMMUNITY . .

CONTINUE THE IMPORTANCE OF COVERING EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES. WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH, SORRY, MEDICAL CARE THE JUVENILE DETENTION FACILITIES.

WE ALSO ABSORB A CONFLICT INCREASE IN TERMS OF PROVIDING MEDICALCARE TO THE JAIL NEXT-DOOR .

AS WAS SAID A WHILE AGO, ITEMS SIX AND NINE CONTINUE THE FUNDING WE HAD LAST YEAR. I'M JUST TRYING TO TELL YOU THAT IN A MACRO WAY, IT'S ESSENTIALLY LAST YOU'RE GOING NEXT YEAR IS A WAY THAT WE GO. WITH THE CAVEAT THAT WE HAVE A

TAX DECREASE. >> JUDGE: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS,

COMMISSIONERS? >> JUDGE, TOMORROW WE WILL CONSIDER BOTH VERSIONS AGAIN AND END UP ADOPTING ONE OF THEM. ONCE WE DO, - - WILL CONVEY AND BE WILL START GETTING THAT ON YOUR AGENDA.

>> DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE THINK?

>> I ALWAYS WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

[LAUGHTER]. >> COMMISSIONER: I WANTED TO ASK, ONLINE ITEM 7 THAT YOU HAVE THE IN VERSION 2, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT CUTTING BACK SOME OF HER FUNDING, WHETHER IS THE OUTSIDE AGENCY. I DON'T KNOW IF DIABETES IS CONSIDERED . IS THAT A DIFFERENT PROGRAM?

>> AT THE SAME PROGRAM YOU HAD LAST YEAR.

I BELIEVE EACH MEMBER OF THE COURT IS ALLOCATED $10,000 APIECE. YOU ARE BASICALLY ALLOCATE THOSE WITHIN YOUR OWN PRECINCTS TO THESE PROGRAMS. I KNOW COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IS VERY ACTIVE IN HIS PRECINCT TO THIS PROGRAM AS IS COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

THAT IS THE PROGRAM, IT WILL BE CUT.

IF YOU WANT TO GO IN VERSION 1, ALL OF THAT STUFF WILL BE CUT.

>> DO WE ALL USE THESE FUNDS? >> YES OR.

>> SO WE ARE ALL ACTIVE? GOOD.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. THE HALO FLIGHT FUNDING, IS THAT TO COVER THE COST? THIS IS WHAT WE DID FROM LAST

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YEAR? >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR FUNDING LINE ITEM IS, THIS THE CONTRIBUTION THAT WE MAKE.

>> IS NOT A SEPARATE LINE ITEM? ALTHOUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT

THAT WE FUND, THEY JUST MOVE? >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE

IN YOURS BUT THIS IS OURS. >> OF THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE

COVERED? >> THESE ARE OUR EMPLOYEE

BENEFITS. >> WE ALSO FUND HALO FLIGHT

15,000. >> I WAS INTERESTED TO ALL OF COVERING SOME AREAS OF FUNDING. THIS IS WHAT YOU WILL CONTRIBUTE LAST YEAR FROM BUDGET 23?

OKAY, THANK YOU. >> ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, I APPRECIATE THE HECK OUT OF WHAT YOU DO, BUT AGAIN, I DON'T WANT US TO PUT YOU IN A POSITION BECAUSE WE ARE MAKING OUR COMPETITIONS OVER HERE, I DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO DO JUST BECAUSE. IF YOU WANT TO MEET SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE AND CUT US IN HALF, THAT IS WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH. IT'S NOT FAIR FOR US TO US DEPARTMENT HEADS. I WILL RUN THIS CHECKLIST THAT WE GO DOWN LIKE OUTSIDE AGENCY, WE AS A COURT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THAT SACRIFICE AND DEPENDING ON THEY HAVE THE VOTES TO DO IT. MAYBE IT'S LESS OF AN INCREASE.

I DON'T WANT TO BE AN UNFAIR THING.

YOU WILL MAKE SOME CUTS OVER HERE THAT WILL AFFECT PEOPLE.

I'M A LITTLE TORN ON THIS ONE BECAUSE I APPRECIATE THAT I CAN WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO HELP US AND YOU ALWAYS DO.

AT THE SAME TIME, SOME OF OUR OUTSIDE AGENCIES WILL GET SOME CUTS. I DO KNOW OF SOME OF THESE SHOULD NOT AS WELL IF WE WILL MAKE US ON OUR END.

IF THESE THREE OR FOUR GET FULL FUNDING IN A 10 WEEK CUT OVER YOU CAN HAVE FUNDING, IS THAT AN INEQUITY?

I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT. >> I KNOW WHERE YOU ARE GOING COMMISSIONER, BUT THESE ARE THE PROGRAMS WE ASSIST THE COUNTY IN FUNDING. YOU HAVE TO ALLOCATE THOSE.

>> IF YOU ARE ALLOCATING IT FOR CENTER CORE, WE WILL GIVE IT TO CENTER CORE. THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO DO. IF NOT THEN WE DON'T AND I'M NOT SAYING YOU SHOULDN'T, JUST SAYING THAT TIMES ARE TOUGH AND EVERYONE IS IN A BAD SPOT. I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTION ON SOME OF THOSE IF IT WILL HELP REDUCE THE TAXBURDEN .

>> I UNDERSTAND THE COMMISSIONER, WE ARE MAKING CUTS AND ON BUDGET.I GET IT, IT'S NOT FAIR FOR YOU TO MAKE CUTS IN YOUR BUDGET, I KNOW YOU ARE DOING AND IAPPRECIATED .

>> I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH US.

YOU GUYS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THERE WILL NEED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES.

OUR MISSION IS THE SAME, THOSE THAT HAVE NO INSURANCE.

WE THINK ALL WE WANT BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO NOT HELP ANYBODY? THEY ARE GOING TO GET US. NOW WE WILL HAVE DOUBLE TROUBLE THE FOLLOWING YEAR BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL NEED THE SERVICES.

MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE SICK.

I CAN'T EVER SEE CUTTING SOME KIND OF SERVICE FOR THOSE THAT REALLY NEED IT. I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THAT ON YOUR SIDE.

>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT COMMISSIONER.SOME OF THESE ARE INTERRELATED IN THE BIG PICTURE OF THE COUNTY HEALTH CARE NEEDS. IF SOME THESE PROGRAMS TO OPERATE AT THE LEVELS THEY DO OPERATE, THOSE FOLKS MAY END UP IN THE ER AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE MAY NEED TO PICK THEM

UP. >> THAT'S WILL BE DON'T WANT.

I THINK IN THE LONG RUN, WHETHER WE HELP FOUR OR FIVE AGENCIES, 10, THE MORE THE BETTER.

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THEY ARE OUT THERE, THIS IS THEIR MISSION TO MAKE SURE THEY REACH OUT TO THOSE THAT THEY NEED TO HELP.

WE AS A COUNTY, WE WILL HAVE THE STAFF AND NEED TO DO THIS THING THE IS LIKE AN OCTOPUS, THERE ARE THE TENTACLES OF ALL THE COUNTY AND THEY ARE OUT THERE TRYING TO DO ALL THESE THINGS. $10,000 IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY.

20,000 IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY. WE TRY TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN

WITH WHAT WE ARE GIVEN. >> IS BETTER THAN ZERO MONEY.

>> RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU GUYS ARE

DOING, THANK YOU. >> YOU ALL DO A GREAT JOB.

YOU ARE IN A REALLY GOOD SPOT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT US HAVE BEEN SO PRETTY WITH YOUR MONEY AND HAVE A LOT IN RESERVE. YOU'LL HAVE LOTS OF STAFF LIKE WE DO, YOURS ARE PROGRAM GENERATED SO YOU'RE ABLE TO GENERATE A LOT OF REVENUE WITHOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE EXPENSE THAT WE HAVE. YOU WILL BE ABLE TO WEATHER THE STORM WAY BETTER THAN WE ARE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP, WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> I ALSO WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU WILL DO FOR US. YOU ALL DO IT IN GOOD FAITH TO HELP THE COMMUNITY. WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WORSE

THEY CAN GET. >> I WANT TO ADD SOMETHING BEFORE YOU ARE LEFT. BUT ALSO PART OF CUTS WE TALKED ABOUT MAKING? IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS COVERED AT LAST YEAR'S BUDGET? IS THAT IN RESPONSE TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE CUTTING?

>> COMMISSIONER, IT'S A NEW ITEM THAT WAS ON THE BUDGET LAST YEAR. IT'S OPERATED BY HEALTH SCIENCE

OUT OF SAN ANTONIO. >> WHAT IS IT DIFFERENT?

>> THEY HAVE CLINICAL PROGRAMS OF THE OPERATING COMMUNITY

DIABETES EDUCATION.>> WE ALL UTILIZE THEM EVERY YEAR.

IT IS TO SUPPLEMENT CUTS DEBBIE PROPOSING? US COLLECTIVELY OR INDIVIDUALLY HAVE ASKED TO COVER MY OWN

BUDGET THIS YEAR? >> IS IT A NEW LINE ITEM?

>> IS OBVIOUSLY A >> IS A NEW LINE ITEM FOR US, BUT THEY COULD END UP USING THE MONEY TO BACKFILL.

>> SO IT'S POTENTIAL? YOU HAVE HEARD US COLLECTIVELY? THAT IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.

FOR SOME OF THESE ARE COMING IN.

NOT THAT I DON'T WANT IT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE AS WE GO LATER ON INTO THIS MEETING, WE WILL TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL CUTS THREE OF THE SACRIFICE OUT OF HER OWN BUDGET.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS ESSENTIAL AND UTILIZED EVERY COMMISSIONER AND JUDGE THIS YEAR AND EVERY YEAR PAST.

JUST THINK THAT COVERS THAT AMOUNT.

>> THE AHECC MONEY IS OUT THERE THE NET IS NEEDED FOR A

PARTICULAR PURPOSE YET. >> IS COMING PRACTICE DOES MAKE

THE PURPOSE? >> NO, WE WILL IF YOU ALL DON'

. >> I THINK WHAT JOHN IS GOING WITH THIS AND I AGREE, I DO NOT CATCH THIS, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MYERS.THAT WAS ONE OF THETHINGS THAT WE WANTED TO DO . THEY ARE CRUCIAL IN THESE COMMUNITY HEALTH FAIRS THAT WE DO THE PROVIDE INCREDIBLE HEALTH SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY AT A VERY REASONABLE COST. IF YOU ARE SAYING THAT THIS IS A NEW LINE ITEM THAT IS COMING TO US THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO USE TO GIVE THEM THAT THEY HAD NOT GONE BEFORE, THAT WILL HELP US ON OUR OUTSIDE AGENCY CUTS WE WILL MAKE.

AGAIN, GOOD CATCH. UNLESS YOU ARE DESIGNATING IT FOR SPECIFIC THINGS AND WE CAN'T DO THAT, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT TOO. I'LL HUNDRED PERCENT AGREEMENT AT THE VERY IMPORTANT AGENCY FOR US.

THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE DIRECTLY TO OUR CONSTITUENTS, THAT IS SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO DO.

WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES.

>> THIS CAME OUT OF THE FACT THAT THERE WILL BE AN EXTENSION OF HEALTHCARE DELIVERY IN THE ROB SOUND AREA WITH THE

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EXPANSION OF THE CLINIC AND THE COLORADO BUILDING AND NOW THE MOBILE CLINIC IS FULLY UPAND RUNNING .

THERE WILL BE MORE OUTREACH TO THE RURAL AREAS SO WE WANT TO

SUPPLEMENT THAT. >> COMMISSIONS HIM OUT TO CLOSE BY SAYING FOR YOUR MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, NOT TO CONFUSE FOR YOUR MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, WE ASKED DALE TO INCLUDE IN THE LINE ITEM THERE WAS AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED WHERE YOU WILL READ UP ON OPERA BUDGET.WE PUT THE VOTER APPROVED RATE INTHEIR .

WE DON'T KNOW YET FROM THIS WORKSHOP AND OUR BOARD MEETING TOMORROW IF WE WILL NEED TO BE DOING MORE THAN 4% OR LESS THAN 4%.IN YOUR WILL ON WEDNESDAY, THE HIGHEST WE COULD GO WOULD BE THE VOTER APPROVED RATE. WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR'S WE DID THE SAME THING. THAT WILL BE THE SAME THING THIS YEAR IF YOU GO WITH VERSION 2.

>> ARTICLE IS WEDNESDAY AND YOU'RE ALL MEETING IS TOMORROW.

WHAT DO WE KNOW THAT BEFORE THEN?

>> YES. >> ALL WE DO IS RECOMMEND A RATE TO YOU ALL AND WE WILL KNOW THAT.

THE BOARD IS ALREADY RECEIVE THE VERSION LIKE YOU ALL HAVE.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU ARE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND SET THE RATES. WE CAN JUST RECOMMEND ONE TO

YOU WHEN YOU SAID. >> THANK YOU BOTH.

>> JUDGE: DALE, WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU NOW THEN.

>> WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF CUT AND HAD DISCUSSION OVER THE WEEKEND. TERESA WILL PROVIDE YOU A LIST OF ITEMSWE CAN GO OVER AND LITTLE BIT .

WE CAN GO OVER THE VALUES ON TAB K. K1 AND K2.

ONE IS WHAT WE WOULD DO WE HAVE THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX.

K2 IS IF WE DID THE FULL APPROVAL RATE.>> THIS IS THE REDUCTION THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE TURNED IN?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. WE HAVE DECIDED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT FROM THE 1115 WAIVER AND WILL DISCUSS THAT LITTLEBIT .

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BUDGET WHAT WE ASSUMED SPENT AND RECEIVED.K1 IS ONLY REVENUE TAX INCLUDED TWO IS YOUR VOTER APPROVED TAX. LET'S GO TO K-1.

THE FIRST COLUMN IS THE BUDGET ITEM.

YOU ALL WILL ADOPT THE BUDGET AND THE VERY TOP NUMBER IS YOUR BUDGET AND BALANCE WILL BE OBJECTING FOR 23, 24.

WE ARE PROJECTING A BUDGET OF 111 MILLION - - WE ARE PROJECTING AN EXPENSIVE - -. THAT'S A NET DECREASE OF $60,032,071. 100% OF THE BUDGET WE WOULD GO

FOR 27,000,800 TO 10,000,046. >> A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT WE TALK ABOUT BUDGET. THE NEXT COLUMN, OR THE BUDGET ITEM HAS INFORMATION WE KNOW WE WILL NEVER SPEND.

WE ALSO CONTINUED APPROPRIATIONS BECAUSE OF STORMS AND OTHER ITEMS WE MIGHT HAVE AN AREAS WE PUT IN THEIR ARE NUMBERS WE KNOW WE WILL NEVER SPEND.

SOME OF THE BUDGET WE HAVE FOR EXPENSES WE KNOW WE WILL NEVER SPEND. IF WE GO THROUGH OUR NORMAL BUDGET ITEMS - - OUR REVENUE. WE HAVE SOME CONTINGENCIES IN

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HERE FOR EXPENSES AS WELL AS WE KNOW WE HAVE VACANCIES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. WE WOULD NEVER SPEND 100% OVER BUDGET. NORMALLY WE ARE ANYWHERE FROM 87 TO 92%. IF WE TAKE 90%, WE ÃMY 10%.

IF YOU THINK OF IT AS 180 MILLION, TAKE TEMPERATURES OF THAT, THAT'S $11 MILLION REDUCTION.

WE ARE ASSUMING WE WILL SPEND ABOUT 89% SO WE ARE AT 109 MILLION OF THE 115. IF WE ASSUME THAT FOR THE 90 REVENUE TAX, WE WILL STILL BE LOSING $3,842,007.

I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS WE HAVE BEFORE VOTER APPROVED.

>> LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS.

YOU SAY THERE ARE THINGS WE KNOW WE WILL NEVER SPEND, BUT

WE BUDGET THEM ANYWAY, WHY? >> CONSIDERS THE EVALUATION BECAUSE OF WHERE WE ARE ON THE COAST.

WE HAVE HURRICANES AND WE KNOW WE HAVE POTENTIAL EMERGENCY SITUATIONS. WE HAVE IN OUR BALANCE RIGHT NOW $5 MILLION CONTINGENCY BECAUSE ANOTHER ISSUE IS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH OUR BURNING AGREEMENT AND WE NEED TO ADD SOME FUNDS THERE TO MAKE SURE SOMETHING THAT IS CHANGED. WHY NOT ARE NO CHANGES FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BE FACTOR ITEMS IN THOSE ITEMS. WE ALSO PUT A VALUE IN BECAUSE OF THE DISPUTE WE HAVE THE REFINERIES. WE SET ASIDE $2 MILLION BECAUSE THERE'S THEPOSSIBLE LOSS . WE HAVE $7 MILLION TOTAL OF CONTINGENCY IN THE BUDGET FOR THOSEPARTICULAR ISSUES .> YOU SAY WE BUDGET MANY IS A CONTINUAL BUDGET ITEM OF $7

MILLION? >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER: EVERYONE HAS DIFFERENT LIKES AND DISLIKES, I DON'T LIKE TAKING THINGS ON A ONE-TIME BASIS AND PUTTING THEM INTO THE BUDGET IN GENERAL TERMS BECAUSE IT IS KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND WE WILL HAVE TO FIND IT NEXT YEAR.

I AM A CONSERVATIVE BUDGET ARE, BUT IN TIMES WE ARE IN, ONE OF THE WAYS COULD BE TOO REDUCE THE BUDGETED AMOUNT OF CONTINGENCY. IT'S A ROLL THE DICE AND RISK.

IT MIGHT HAVE TO GO BACK UP NEXT YEAR, BUT WOULDN'T THAT BE SOMETHING THAT COULD ADD OR TAKE AWAY FROM IT?

AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT? >> THAT IS THE ONE ITEM THAT CAN BE CUT, BUT CONTINGENCY WE NEVER EXPECT TO SPEND.

WE ARE REDUCING THE ACTUAL BUDGET SO INSTEAD OF BEING AT 90% OF THE EXPENSES YOU WILL BE A 95%.

HE WILL CHANGE THRESHOLDS - -. >> BUDGET VERSUS ACTUAL, WE GO TO THE EVERY TIME. YET THE BUDGET 200% OF REVENUE AND EXPENSE. IT WILL HELP US BALANCE THE BUDGET MORE CLOSELY IF WE DID THAT.

>> THAT'S WHY WE TRIBALLY CONTINGENCY IN THEIR.

THERE IS STRICT RULE THAT WE CAN NEVER EXCEED THE BUDGET.

IF YOU EXCEED, YOU HAVE TO NEVER SEE SITUATION.

THERE ARE STRICT GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW.

WE TRIED TO PREVENT THAT. >> WE ARE IN A DESPERATE MODE HERE, THERE WAS AN OPTION THAT WILL REDUCE THE BUDGET DEFICIT?

>> CORRECT. >> JUST MAKING SURE.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE DISCUSSED IN THIS COURTROOMTHAT I CAN REMEMBER . ONE OPTION WOULD BE TOO REDUCE THE CONTINGENCY BY AN AMOUNT THE COURT IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT WILL REDUCE THE BUDGET DEFICIT .

>> COMMISSIONER: IF WE TRY TO REDO THE CONTINGENCY, I TALKED TO - - ONE MORE TIME AND HE WILL STAND BY.

IF WE ARE 20% OF THE FUND BALANCE TO PUT US REALLY NEED TO GO AND WE DON'T TOUCH THE CONTINGENCY, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM. BEING THAT WE WILL USE 3 MILLION OR EVEN 4 MILLION, BUT I THINK 3 MILLION IS A GOOD NUMBER FROM OUR FUND BALANCE TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO

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DO. >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECALL, THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO, WE USED THREE TO $4 MILLION, WE KNEW WE REQUIRED IT.

WE WENT OUT FOR A BODY SHOULD THE SAME TIME AND ONE OF OUR ISSUES LOWERS OUR RATES. WE WENT FROM A AA TO A AA

NEGATIVE. >> WE WERE BELOW 21 AT THAT TIME. WE WERE AT 19 ONE-TIME.

>> WE WILL BE WELL BELOW 25. >> PERCENTAGE.

YOU ARE TALKING TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, HE IS TALKING DOLLARS.

>> RIGHT NOW IF WE GO TO K FOR, IF WE DO THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX

AND WE WOULD BE A 21.4%. >> WAS WRONG WITH THAT?

>> YOU CAN LOOK AT THE SECOND LINE, YOU WILL SEE THAT WE ARE ESTIMATING RIGHT AROUND 24.7, NOT QUITE THE 25% RIGHT NOW.

>> WE WILL DROP WELL BELOW 25% RESERVES.

>> POSTER 23 WHICH IS 21%. >> IT'S ALL ONE TIME KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD DEAL BECAUSE WE DEFINED IT NEXT YEAR.

>> IT TOOK US FIVE YEARS TO MAKE IT UP.

>> WE SHOULD BE ABOUT 25%, WE ARE NOT QUITE THERE.

>> WHERE THE CONTINGENCY. >> CONCLUDED THAT SAME $3 MILLION AND DELINK BUDGETED, THAT IS A REGULARLY BUDGETED ITEM THAT WE ARE DOING AWAY WITH.

>> THAT WILL HAVE NO EFFECT ON THE TOTAL NUMBERS.

>> EVEN THOUGH WHY I DON'T LIKE IT, TAKING AWAY THE CONTINGENCY IS BETTER THAN TAKING AWAY THE RESERVES IN MY OPINION.

>> IT DOES NOT HELP YOUR BOTTOM LINE.

>> AS DALE STATED, THERE IS A STATUE THAT ONCE WE GOT THE BUDGET, YOU CAN INCREASE YOUR BUDGET UNLESS THERE IS A STATE OF EMERGENCY FOR WHICH PRUDENT FINANCIAL PLANNING CANNOT

OVERSEE. >> LIKE A HURRICANE.

>> HURRICANE WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE, BUT PRUDENT FINANCIAL PLANNING COULD FORESEE THAT SOMEBODY WILL GO OVER THE BUDGET BECAUSE SOMETHING HAPPENS DURING THE YEAR WHENEVER YOU CUT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

BETTER TO BUDGET AND NOT NEEDED IN NEED AND NOT HAVE IT.

>> IS ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE IT. >> YES COMMISSIONER, WE GET TO CONTINGENCY AND IT WOULD HAVE NO EFFECT ON YOUR ACTUAL ESTIMATES BECAUSE ALL HE WILL DO IS CHANGE THE DIFFERENCE FROM 85% TO MAYBE 95%. IT WILL REALLY CHANGE YOUR TOTAL ESTIMATED ACTUAL FROM ADJUSTER RATIO.

WE CAN DO THAT. >> IS NOT IDEAL, I'M TRYING TO SEE HOW WE DON'T CUT JOBS. IT'S NOT GREAT, BUT TO ME IT IS WAY BETTER THAN PULLING OUT OF THE RESERVES.

THAT IS A VERY DANGEROUS DEAL. >> THOSE ARE TWO OPTIONS.

>> ON TO HELP YOU FIND SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO

ACCOMPLISH. >> WE DID GO DOWN ONE VALUE ON ONE OF OUR RATINGAGENCIES . THE COST IS A LITTLE BIT MORE INTEREST. THAT IS AN ISSUE AND YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT WHEN THAT COMES UP.

>> NOW WE GO TO K2.KATIE LOOKS AT THE SAME SCENARIOS ON BUDGET TO ACTUAL. BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE EXPENSE WISE, OUR NET INCREASE AND DECREASE IS ONLY 11 MILLION INSTEAD OF 16 MILLION.

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IF WE GO TO THE SAME SCENARIOS ON COLLECTIONS WITHOUT ANY REDUCTIONS, WE ARE STILL 89% AND 100% OF YOUR REVENUE.

WITH THE BOUNCERS WE HAVE A THE CUT IN ADDITIONAL ITEMS, HE WILL BE A $585,000 INCREASE IN RESERVES.

IF WE CHOOSE THAT THERE YOU CAN ALWAYS DO ANYTHING BELOW THIS AND AS YOU GO DOWN, THOSE NUMBERS WILL CONTINUE TO DECREASE . MY BEST REVIEW OF THIS AND GOING THROUGH THESE ITEMS, IF WE DO CHOOSE THE VOTER APPROVED RATES WITH ADDITIONAL REVENUE WE ARE PROPOSING, WE FORESEE AN INCREASE OF FUND BALANCE. WE ARE AT A $3 MILLION LOSS FOR 90 REVENUE TALKS AND $500,000 INCREASE FOR RESERVE OR VOTER APPROVED. TALKING RIGHT AT A FORMULA

INCREASE. >> IF WE DO THE 3.5?

>> YES. >> IF YOU CHOOSE VOTER APPROVED, THE 3.8 MILLION LAW STRICT NEXT PAGE IS THE SAME INCREASE DECREASE. THAT'S AROUND $4.5 MILLION

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO. >> THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE

REDUCTIONS YOU ALREADY PUT IN? >> YES, THE REDUCTIONS ARE IN BOTH. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL REVENUE BECAUSE OF TAXES.

>> I JUST DON'T WANT ANYONE TO ASSUME THAT IS BECAUSE WE RAISE

THE 3.5. >> THE CUTS ARE STILL THERE.

YES. >> YOU TALKING ABOUT THE LIME

RISK 15.9? >> YOU WILL SEE WHEN THE VERY TOP THIS IS NET INCREASE AND DECREASE .

IF YOU GO TO K2 YOU WILL SEE THE SAME THING.

NET INCREASE OF 11 MILLION FOR THE BUDGET IF WE DO VOTER APPROVED AND 500,004 FOR THE ACTUAL.

>> FOR BUDGET, YOU ARE STILL SHOWING? YOU ARE STILL SHOWING A DEFICIT IN THE BUDGET WHICH YOU CANNOT

DO. >> WE CAN BECAUSE THE WAY THE BUDGET WORKS IS REVENUE MINUS EXPENSE IS YOUR NET INCREASE AND DECREASE IS ASSUMING THAT YOU ARE TAKING IT FROM RESERVE

, CONSIDERED A BALANCED BUDGET. >> BUT WE DON'T WANT TO?

>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY, WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE NINE OR $10

MILLION DIFFERENCES. >> THAT IS LEGAL TO DO AS LONG AS YOU SHOW THE ACTUAL WILL COME OUT OF THE BALANCE?

>> THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN IN THE LAW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BUDGET WHICH SHE REVENUE MINUS EXPENSES.

ANY DIFFERENCE IN THERE, YOU ASSUME THE REST WILL COME OUT OF YOUR RESERVES BUDGET WISE. WE EXPECT WE WOULD NEED AS MUCH OUT OFTHE RESERVE TO BALANCE THE BUDGET .

>> BUT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO SPEND 100% OF THE REVENUE,

THAT IS WHERE IT COMES DOWN TO? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THAT IS WHERE THE SHEET YOU HAVE ALL GIVEN US ALL ALONG HAS BEEN CONFUSING. IT ALWAYS SHOWS THAT WE ARE BUDGETING A SHORTFALL AND WE ALWAYS OR MOST OF THE TIME CAME BACK AND DID OKAY. THERE WAS THE YEAR WE DID NOT WE ENDED UP SHORT. SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC HAPPENED WERE WE DO NOT END UP DOING AS WELL AS WE COULD.

IF YOU GO BACK TO THE CONTINGENCY ARGUMENT, THAT HELPS YOUR BUDGET BUT WHAT IS IT DUE TO YOUR ACTUAL?

>> NOTHING. WHENEVER EXPECT TO SPEND.

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IF WE ALWAYS EXPENDED THAT BALANCE, IN EFFECT WE WOULD REDUCE THAT AND DOING THE ACTUAL.

IT'S THE SAME SITUATION IF I GIVE YOU YOUR BALANCE FOR SUPPLY AND YOU BUDGET 42,000 BUT ONLY SPENT 20, I THINK A 20 OUT OF THE AND NOT DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN REDUCE THE BUDGET.

>> DO THESE NUMBERS HAVE, AGAIN, I JUST GOT IT SO I'M TRYING TOLOOK . WE DO HAVE ANYTHING THIS ONE

FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING? >> YES WE DO.

IF YOU GO TO K-3, DOWN BELOW THEY'RE NOT IN THE BUDGET BUT THEY ARE PART OF THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE.

THEIR STRATEGY FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS, DEPARTMENT HEADS, REGULAR STAFF AND A PROJECTED BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE AMOUNT OF WHAT WE WOULD NEED FOR THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING OF 423. WE ALREADY PUT SOMETHING IN THE BUDGET OF 1.7 BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE'S A CONTINGENCY OF WHAT IS GOING ON NOW. HE PUT SOME AVAILABLE THERE AND CASES CAME OVER WE HAD TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL SALARY PLUS

ADDITIONAL RETENTION. >> THAT'S PART OF THE SEVEN I

THINK CONTINGENCY? >> CORRECT.

>> YOU TAKE THE 2 MILLION OUT OF THERE, YOU ARE DOWN TO FIVE

AND CONTINGENCY. >> IT'S BEEN IN THE CHANGES TO EXPENSE BEFORE AND NOW IT'S NOT THIS ONE?

>> WE PUT IT IN THERE BECAUSE YOU CAN ALWAYS TAKE IT OUT OF CONTINGENCY AND GIVEN A DIFFERENT DISCRETION WHETHER HE WANTED TO INCLUDE THAT OR NOT. IT'S AN ITEM THE PARTY BROUGHT UP AND WILL PROBABLY BE THERE FOR THE PUT SOMETHING IN THE

BUDGET JUST IN CASE. >> THE MEETING WILL BE AFTER WE SET OUR BUDGET. WE PUT IT THERE JUST IN CASE BECAUSE OUR NEXTCOLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT IS AFTERWARDS . YOU HAVE TO BUDGETSOMETHING .

>> RIGHT. >> IT WAS 1.7, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN

1.7. >> IS NOT IN THEIR.

>> HOW MUCH IS THE CONTINGENCY BUDGET?

>> AROUND FIVE. >> THAT YOU SAID SEVEN.

>> IT IS STILL NOWHERE NEAR WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR.

>> THE CONTINGENCY IS EXACTLY 5 MILLION.

THE ONLY THING WE HAVE INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR'S CONTINGENCY IS THE 1.74 MILLION FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.

IT'S NOTHING ABOUT WHAT WE NORMALLY DO FOR CONTINGENCY EXCEPT THAT 1.74 FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.

>> AS WE SIT HERE TODAY, WE JUST GOT THESE, I UNDERSTAND WHY. IT'S A WORKSHOP, NOT A DAY WE HAVE THE VOTE BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE BALL ON WEDNESDAY, AS WE SIT HERE TODAY, HOW MANY DEPARTMENTS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE NOT SUBMITTED THEIR SUGGESTED CUTS?

>> 20 TO 5. >> THAT'S AWESOME.

WE NEED TO TELL THEM THAT HE WILL CUT THE BUDGET IN HALF?

>> JUST KIND OF A JOKE. >> WE HAVE - - RECENT ONE AND

THREE. >> LET'S KEEP THE AND NINE.

>> WAS THE NUMBER 490 REVENUE TAX RATE AND FOR VOTER APPROVED? OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NUMBER IN BETWEEN BUT HE JUST OMITTED TWO AND I GET IT, THAT'S FINE.

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HOW MANY MORE CUTS WITH THIS COURTNEY TO MAKE FOR NO NEW REVENUE AND HOW MUCH FOR VOTER APPROVED?

>> WE HAVE GONE THROUGH EVERY DEPARTMENTS REQUEST AND IN WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS, WE BELIEVE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS EXCEPT FOR THE FIVE THAT WE MENTIONED HAVE DONE THEIR EXTREME LEVEL OF CUTS AND WE DON'T BELIEVE THEY CAN GO MUCH FURTHER THAN WHAT THEY HAVE. THERE ARE POTENTIAL BOUNCES WE HAVE. THEY PROPOSING TO BRING IN $1 MILLION BECAUSE OF THE SOFTWARE I'M ASSIGNED THIS YEAR WHICH IS ADDITIONAL COST. EVEN IF WE PUT IN THOSE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, WE CUT THEM THE BEST WE CAN WITHOUT DESTROYING THEM, I STILL BELIEVE WE WILL BE ANYWHERE FROM 3.4 $3.5 BILLION LOSS IN THE ROOM TAX. WE CAN DEATHLY CUT SOME OF THE

CODICES. >> MY QUESTION IS AS WE SIT TODAY AND ASK WHAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED, BECAUSE IF WE DO ADDITIONAL CUTS. I'VE HAD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO. WHAT WOULD BE YOUR NUMBER ON THE NO NEW TAX RATE AND VOTER APPROVED?

3.4 MILLION? >> LOTS.

>> OR WE GO DOWN TO 25 IN OUR FUND BALANCE?

>> WHAT ABOUT VOTER APPROVED? >> IF WE DO THE VOTER APPROVED RATE, WE DON'T NEED ADDITIONAL CUTS.

WE ARE SHOWING AN INCREASE IN RESERVES.

>> AS WE SIT TODAY BASED ON THE BUDGET CUTS SUBMITTED BY THE DIFFERENT APARTMENTS AND DISCORD, NOW VOTER NUMBER SUBMITTED, IF THIS COURT DECIDED TO GO TO THE 3.5% INCREASE IN TAXES AND WE HAVE TO MAKE ANY MORE CUTS, IT'S 3.4 MILLION IN CUTS. OR SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN IF THE COURT DID NOT WANT TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP?> CORRECT

. >> THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT ACHIEVEMENT. IT'S NOT GOOD, BUT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE HELPED DO THIS, I WILL NAME THE FIVE WHO HAVE NOT, OF THE PEOPLE WANT HELP THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS, A HUGE THANK YOU.

THIS HAS BEEN A TERRIBLE PROCESSFOR US ALL TO GO THROUGH . YOU HAVE ALL MADE COLLECTIVE SUGGESTIONS AND A KNOT AGREE ON ALL THEM BUT A LOT OF THEM.

THANK YOU TO THE STAFF TO MODERATE STAFF, CORY AMENT AND EVERYONE WAS WORKED ON THIS. THIS IS A COMPLETELYUNPLEASANT PROCESS TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH . BUT, FROM WHERE WE STARTED, THIS IS GREAT PROGRESS AND VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

CAN YOU LIST AGAIN FOR THE FIVE ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO HAVE NOT SUBMITTED THEIR CUTS? WE HOPE THEY WILL GIVE US ONE MORE SHOT AT IT. WE CAN MAKE EVERYBODY ELSE DO IT, THAT'S NOT FAIR. SOME OF IT WILL HAVE THE SHIFT DEPENDING ON WHAT THE COURT DECIDESTO DO.

WERE THE ONES ? >> YOU WILL SEE COUNTY COURT LAW FIVE HAS ZERO CUTS TO THE DEPARTMENT.

IF YOU GO TO L4, YOU WILL SEE - - ASZERO DOLLAR CUTS .

IF YOU DON'T GIVE US SOME SUGGESTIONS, WE HAVE TO.

>> I DID TALK TO A COUPLE OF THE GPS.

A COUPLE OF THEM THAT INCREASES WITH TAKING OVER TRUANCY, I DID TALK TO THEM ABOUT ALWAYS CUTTING THEIR TRAVEL, BUT I THINK WE WERE CUTTING EVERYONE'S TROUBLES.

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NONE OF THOSE RECLASSIFICATIONS ARE IN HERE FOR CONSIDERATION.

>> YOU HAVE A LIST AND TERESA WILL PROVIDE YOU A LIST OF THIS. WE HAVE ONE NEW POSITION BECAUSE WE ARE DELETING - - AFFECTS US AT ALMOST 0.

BREATHTAKINGLY THAT SHE CAN BRING IN THE DEPUTY BECAUSE YOU WILL PROMOTE THE OTHER ONE TO THE MEDICAL EXAMINER.

THAT IS CONFUSING THERE. THERE ARE SOME THAT I'VE SAID FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU ARE - - LIMIT ONE POSITION FOR RECLASSIFICATION. THIS IS THE NUMBER THAT THEY WILL DELETE AT THE BIDEN. WE HAVE 23 OPEN POSITION FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR. WE WILL SAVE THE COUNTY $1 MILLION. JUVENILES HAVE TRANSFERRED THREE OF THE EMPLOYEES FROM GENERAL FUND - - $187.

THEIR ONLY, WE CAN GO TO THAT NUMBER AS WELL, THAT IS WITH THE DIRECTION WILL BE IF WE SO CHOOSE TO GO THAT DIRECTION.

>> JUST TO CLARIFY THIS, THIS DECISION THAT YOU HAVE, ARE YOU TRAINING FOR THEM TO HELP WITH THE STATE?

>> YES. >> SO THEY WILL BE TOTALLY UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THE STATE?

>> YES, COMMISSIONER. THIS LAST SESSION WE HAVE BEEN IN THE JUVENILE JUSTICE - - LEGISLATURE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THAT.

>> WE HAVE ALL BEEN WORKING UPLANDS, THE LATEST THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN GOING FOR WITH ANY RE-CLASSES.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> SMALL RE-CLASSIFICATION CAN BE ADJUSTED WHEN WE TAKE THIS OUT OF THE JUVENILE BALANCES.

I HAVE SMALL RECLASSIFICATION, MOST A MINOR REDUCTION SPREAD IN SAVING THE COUNTY FUNDS. I DID INCLUDE SOME RECLASSIFICATIONS, MOST OF THE ONES I INCLUDED WERE A REDUCTION IN ANTIGO AND DOCTOR JUVENILE THEY WILL SHOW UP BEING NEGATIVE. WE HAVE CLOSE TO 40 POSITIONS FROZEN OR DELETED FROM THE COUNTY , SAVING THE COUNTY $2.1 MILLION POSSIBLY. I KNOW TERESA HAS A GOOD LIST

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OF WHAT WE INCLUDED SHE SHOWS YOU WHICH ONE WERE PART OF THE VACANCY WAS AND WHICH ONES WERE NOT.

>> DO WE HAVE A COPY OF THAT? I THOUGHT IN MY EMAIL.

TERESA PROVIDED THESE, THESE ARE THE BALANCE OF YOUR SHOWING FOR WAS CONSIDERED TO BE THE DEPARTMENTS REQUEST TO BE FROZEN FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING BECAUSE - -. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONES I CONSIDER A REDUCTION IN THE FOREST, A COUPLE OF THEM COMING FROM IMAGING, ONE FROM HILLTOP. THIS ONE I TALKED ABOUT, WE ARE CHANGING THE MEDICAL EXAMINER, DEPUTY CHIEF TO A DEPUTY.

WHENEVER YOU ALL DECIDE THAT PAY SCHEDULE FOR THE CURRENT MEDICAL EXAMINER, THE CURRENT DEPUTY CHIEF THAT IS WE WILL CHOOSE, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE OVER THAT POSITION.

THIS WOULD BE THE NET SAVINGS WERE TALKING ABOUT ON THREE AND

FIVE. >> IS THIS SOMEONE JUST HANDED

US? >> THESE ARE THE POSITIONS THAT WERE VACANT. THERE WERE ONLY ONE OR TWO THAT WERE NOT VACANT. THESE ARE THE PROMOTIONS THAT WE ARE SHOWING VACANCIES. EVEN THE REDUCING STAFF OFFERING STAFF, DOES NOT AFFECT A PERSON THAT IS IN THEIR IN

THE FIVE OR SIX AT THE BOTTOM. >> PRODUCTION AT THE BOTTOM, THE IT AND RECORDS MANAGEMENT IS ALL DARRELL'S APARTMENT,

BOTH OF THOSE RIGHT? >> THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US THAT ENSURE VACANCIES. IT COULD BE POSITIONED AHEAD.

>> I JUST SAW FOR FROM HIM. >> THESE ARE GOING TO RETIRE, SO WE CAN PUT THESE IN. WE WILL GET RID OF THE PART-TIME POSITION, THAT PERSON IS NOT PROCESS OF RESIGNING.

>> I DO NOT THIS IS THE TIME OR THE PLACE, BUT I HAD JUST BEEN INFORMED THAT THERE WERE FOUR PEOPLE IN RECORDS MANAGEMENT

UNDERTHE COUNTY JUDGE ? >> ANNA KNOW ANYONE UNDER MICROMANAGEMENTTHAT WOULD BE YOURS .

>> THERE ARE FOUR AND TERESA THAT IS STATUTORILY? MY NAME WAS ON IT, I THINK WE ARE LOOKING INTO IT AND IT GOES WITH IT. I DO NOT KNOW WHY IT WENT WITH

THE COUNTY JUDGE. >> WE HAVE ONE FOR THE COUNTY CLERK, ONE FOR THE GENERAL AREA AND ONE IS CONSIDERED A 1304 WHICH IS, WE CAN PUT THAT UNDER IT.

>> I WAS SHOCKED. >> IT WAS ANOTHER THING THAT HAVE BEEN DONE A LONG TIME AGO AND HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED.

>> HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. THE OPIATE FUNDS, ARE THEY HERE

ANYWHERE? >> WE CURRENTLY HAVE MEMBER IN

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INTENSIVE CARE AT THE CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL AND IS GOING TO BE A VERY EXPENSIVE COST.

WE HAD TO PAY EVERY CLAIM. WE KNOW THIS COST WILL BE IN EXCESS OF A MILLION. SOME OF THE FUNDS FOR THE OPIATE BOUNCES CAN BE USED FOR THAT.

IF WE NEED TO BUMP UP THE HEALTH INSURANCE FUND, OTHERWISE THOSE FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR ANYTHING THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SAYS IS A LEGITIMATE CAUSE FOR THOSE

FUNDS. >> LET'S BE CLEAR, THAT'S NOT IF WE NEED TO. YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT ONE CASE AND WE HAVE OTHERS. WE ARE GOING TO BE SHORT IN OUR

HEALTH INSURANCE FUND. >> WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS AHEAD OF TIME. GIVE US SOMETHING TO SAY WE HAVE GOT THIS 400,000 BUT, A COUPLE OF CASES WILL BE

UTILIZED. >> WE WILL TRY TO KEEP YOU UPDATED AS WE CAN. SOMETIMES WE ARE RESTRICTED

BECAUSE OF PAPER. >> THE OTHER QUESTION YOU SHOULD ASK BEFORE, THIS IS ON PAGE D4.

THERE IS INTEREST IN THAT? >> IS THAT ANDREW IS SUPPOSED

TO BE OR IS THAT - -? >> PASSWORD WE RECEIVED THAT WE

WOULD COLLECT. >> THE TOTAL MONITORS, DO WE

COLLECT IT? >> IT WILL NOT BE MORE THAN 4

MILLION? >> AS YOU KNOW, THE FEDERAL RESERVE SHOULD INCREASE THE RATE BY .5.

RIGHT NOW WE WERE TOLD FROM OUR INVESTMENT PEOPLE THAT ARE CLASSES AT 5.7% INTEREST. SOME OF THOSE BALANCES WILL GENERATE MORE AND MOST LIKELY WILL COLLECT A LITTLE MORE BUT I CAN'T SAY EXACTLY HOW MUCH MORE.

>> WHEN WE KNOW?> SEPTEMBER 30.

>> THAT CAN ALSO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF A BOOST, RIGHT?

JUST TO KEEP TRACK OF THAT. >> IT ALSO DEPENDS ON HOW FAST WE SPENT . AS YOU ALL MAY KNOW, EVERY BIT OF INTEREST ACCORDINGTO THE RULES, WE THINK THAT THE GENERAL FUND . IT'S BEEN ABOUT $200,000 EVERY

QUARTER. >> CAN YOU SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE? THEY ARE SAYINGTHEY CANNOT HEAR

YOU . >> THE INTEREST IS MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE SEEN THERE, BUT I CAN'T GIVE YOU A REASONABLE EXPECTATION FOR WHAT THAT WILL BE.

AT LEAST 4 MILLION. >> BUT COULD BE MORE?

>> COULD BE. >> IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE MORE BUT ANYWAYS. I MIGHT BE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO AND SAY BE HAVE ANOTHER MILLION.

WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE THAT. IT'S ANOTHER SOURCE.

>> THE FOREMAN AND THAT HE IS ESTIMATING IS ALREADY IN OUR

BUDGET. >> YES.

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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> TERESA SEND YOU THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WE CAN GO THROUGH THIS, IT GIVES AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH MORE WE CAN EITHER REDUCE FROM THE BALANCES OR INCREASE FROM THE BALANCES. YOU CAN SEE A NUMBER FIVE, WE DID INCLUDE A TRANSFER TO COVER A LOT OF THE SOFTWARE INCREASES I HAD WITH WHAT IT HAD. THE ONE FROM MY OFFICE NEXT YEAR - - THIS ONE YEAR WE WILL DO A ONE-TIME $1 MILLION ADDITIONAL TRANSFER TO COVER THAT.

>> ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT THEY COVER?

>> YES. >> ALSO, TERESA AS NUMBER SIX GOES OUT, WE DO HAVE A 1042. WE DID BUY A FAIR AMOUNT OF PROPERTY WERE MISSILE THE PROPERTY TO THE OUTLET MALL, WE ARE TO MAINTAIN THOSE FUNDS IN THE FAIRGROUNDS BECAUSE OF THE

RESTRICTIONS WITH DAD. >> ARE WE SUPPOSED TO GIVE YOU

YES AND NO ON THIS? >> PAGE 1 LOOK LIKE THIS I AM

NOT HEARING THAT YET. >> IN GENERAL, WE WILL GO THROUGH AND TERESA WILL GO THROUGH WHY WE ARE PROPOSING THIS. AT THAT TIME, WE CAN SAY WHETHER YOU ALL AN AGREEMENT WITH THE SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THIS. NOW WE KNOW FOR MYSELF WHAT ADDITIONAL CUTS WE HAVE TO MAK .

WE ARE TRANSFERRING $1 MILLION FROM THIS 1150 RIVER FUND THAT WE CAN USE FOR THE SOFTWARE MY OFFICE SAYS AND HUMAN RESOURCES HAS, IT AS WELL AS CASE MANAGEMENT AND SOCIAL SERVICES.

MINE REQUIRES US AT THE SAME TIME TO CONTINUE ONE.

IN 24 Ã25, WE CAN REDUCE OUR BUDGET BY HALF MILLION OR MORE.

>> WE ARE REDOING OUT THE WHOLE MILLION?

>> THERE IS SOFTWARE THAT HUMAN RESOURCES NEEDS, THE AUDITOR NEEDS. IT HAS OUR SOFTWARE AGREEMENT AND SOCIAL SERVICES. ALL THESE HAVE SOFTWARE IN ADDITION TO THE FIRST PART OF THE WORKDAY IN ADDITION TO THE

BUDGET. >> SO, WHY ARE WE SUGGESTING?

>> THAT WAS AFTER THE MEETING WITH OUR CORE MANAGEMENT AND

THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE. >> IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE TRANSFERRED A MILLION, BUT WE CAN REDUCE THAT.

>> WHAT I'M ASKING WAS, THIS IS WHAT I'M ASKING.

I THOUGHT HAVING TO PAY A DOUBLE PAGES HERE BETWEEN YOUR SOFTWARE AND THE OTHER SOFTWARE.

I'M ASKING WHY IS NOT TO 600. >> IT SHOULD BE THE 450.

THE 450 COULD GO AWAY NEXT YEAR.

THIS IS THE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ARGUMENT.

IF YOU SUPPLEMENT SOMETHING THAT IS A ONE-TIME THING, I AM DOWN WITH THAT. IF WE SUPPLEMENT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT OUR ONE-TIME THING, THE RECIPES ARE ONGOING.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE DOUBLE PAY IS 450 IN THE 600.

THE 450 WILL GO AWAY AND NOT NEXT YEAR, 24, 25.

450 FOR YOUR ADDITIONAL PAYMENT, NOT THOSE OTHER ONES

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BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE HAVE THE FINEST MONEY NEXT YEAR.

>> ARE ALL OF THESE CONTINUAL? >> THEY OFFER SOCIAL SERVICES, HUMAN RESOURCES AND IT. BASICALLY, IT GOES UP EVERY YEAR. HE WANTED MORE AND GET A STOP

ON THAT ONE. >> THE ONLY DEDUCTION IS FOR 50

FROM 632? >> 450 FROM THE XO WE ARE

HAVING TO PAY DOUBLE THIS YEAR. >> IS THAT THE CONSENSUS OF THE COURT? 450?

>> I WAS NEVER IN THE BUDGET PROCESS RIGHT UP PUSH YES OR NO, THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. WHAT BUDGET IS ABOUT WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE FOR THE YEAR . TO GIVE US A FEW MINUTES TO ABSORB THIS,, OTHER SHEETS TO ABSORB THIS INFORMATION.

IF WE ARE PRESSED TO I GUESS I WILL PUT A YES OR NO BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS. I WAS IN THE PUBLIC OR ANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES WOULD WANT US TO HASTILY COME UP WITH AN ANSWER

FOR THIS CHECKLIST. >> I AM WITH YOU JOHN.

>> WE CAN BE HERE ALL DAY IF WE NEED TO BUT TO COME IN AND SAY WE ARE ALREADY IN ITEM 5, I MUST'VE BEEN ASLEEP.

THE START OF THE BEGINNING. WE TALKED ABOUT 90 REVENUE AND VOTER APPROVED, I THINK WE GIVE ANY FEEDBACK AND CAR ALLOWANCE, THE BARGAINING AGREEMENT. I SEE WHAT YOU PRIORITIZE THEM ONE THROUGH THREE, BUT LITERALLY TALK ABOUT EACH OF THESE. ONE ALONE IS WHAT TO TELL US WHERE WE GO WITH THIS. CAN WE GET A CONSENSUS THERE? I KNOW YOU ARE TRYING TO GET WHERE WE ARE AT THE HUMBLEST ARTICLE ON ONE AND THE PUBLIC WILL KNOW, THE MEDIA WILL NO, OUR EMPLOYEES WILL NOW.HOW MUCH, IF ANY, BECAUSE TOO MANY TO MAKE ON THIS? CAN WE START OFF ON ONE? THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WE TALK ABOUT TAX REVENUE AND VOTER APPROVED.YOU WANT TO PUT THIS ON A PAPER?

>> FOR NUMBER ONE IS NOT A YES OR NO RESPONSE.

WE ARE TO SHOWING YOU HERE IN THE PRIOR YEAR ADOPTED RATE WHICH IS .291659. IF WE HAVE THE BOARD APPROVED RATE OF .0253, THAT'S AROUND A 5% DECREASE IN THE TAX RATE.

THAT'S AROUND A 3.544% BALANCES.

FOR WEDNESDAY ONLY BRINGING THE PROPOSED VALUE WE WILL BRING IN FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL AS FOR HOSPITAL DISTRICT, BUT WE SUGGEST IS A PROPOSE RATE DOES NOT MEAN THAT IS WHAT THE RATE WILL BE ADOPTED. DOES THE REALLY HAVE TO EITHER PUBLISH IN PUBLIC HEARINGS OR PUBLIC NOTICES AND CANNOT EXCEED THAT RATE WHEN YOU GO WITH FOR AN ELECTION.

AS JOHNNY WAS MENTIONING FOR THE HOSPITAL, THEY GAVE YOU THE RATE AT .08. THEY WILL PROPOSE OUR RATE THE COURT AS APPROVED ANSWER BUDGET OFFICER, I FEEL THAT I NEED TO PROPOSE THE RATE AS A VOTER APPROVED RATE WHICH WILL BRING A LITTLE MORE THAN $3.5 MILLION ORIGINAL REVENUE.

WE PROJECT A POSSIBLE INCREASE IN RESERVES.

THAT AMOUNT HAS YET TO BE DETERMINED.

>> THAT IS WITH THE TAX REVENUE BOUNCES SHOWING YOU.

HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE.

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IT'S A RECORD VOTE AND NOW THE PROPOSING THE RATE AT THE TIME, YOU CAN ALWAYS SAY YES OR NO A THE TIME .

AS YOU BUDGET OFFICER, I'LL PROBABLY PROPOSE THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE SO WE CAN GO THERE AND DOWN FROM THAT LEVEL.

WE TRY TO EITHER BREAKEVEN OUR RESERVES ARE WEEKEND.

THAT'S WHAT NUMBER ONE IS. AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH NUMBER TWO WITH OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS AND THE COUNCIL OFFICE.

RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE AROUND 305 EMPLOYEES IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IF YOU DO THE ENTIRE STAFF.

WE GO FROM PLACE TO THE ACTUAL. THEN ANYWHERE FROM 90, 8590 VACANCIES. RIGHT NOW, THE $380,000 AT THE END PROPOSED BALANCE, IF WE CHOSE TO INCREASE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ASSOCIATION 2%, IT WILL BE RIGHT AROUND 340,000 PER A LITTLE BIT HIGHER WE CLOSER TO 550, 450.

FOREIGN $50,000. BY NOW THE MARINA PROPOSING AN INCREASE IN THE BUDGET WE HAVE SOFAR OTHER THAN WHAT I SHOWED YOU ON K1 AND K2 . I KNOW THIS IS A DISCUSSION AREA WE ARE HAVING WITH THE COLLECTIVE BARGAININGAGREEMENT ON OUR SIDE . WE ARE ALREADY IN THE BUDGET, WE HAVE ASSUMED WE WILL OPPOSE THE RETENTION PAY.

THAT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET OF 1.7 AS WE HAVE DISCUSSED EARLIER. HE WILL INCREASE THE GENERAL FUND WITH THE EXPECTATION OF THIS MAY BE HIGHER OR LOWER BASED ON OUR AGREEMENT FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

>> IF YOU LOOK AT K-3, AND PROPOSING FOR 23 AND WOULD

ESTIMATE A LITTLE MORE. >> THIS IS COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, WE SHOULD NOT BE TALKING ABOUT ANY OF THESE

THINGS IN HERE. >> WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED

BECAUSE. >> I KNOW WHAT IS ON OUR LIST AND GET THE PUT THINGS IN THE BUDGET.

>> I THINK WE JUST SKIP THE WHOLE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING ISSUE RIGHT NOW. THAT THING IS OUT BECAUSE WE

HAVE NOT AGREED TO EVERYTHING. >> THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE HUNDRED 22 EMPLOYEES. SEVERAL OF THEM WITH LARGE DEPARTMENTS HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE IN THE DEPARTMENTS, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY HAS SEVERAL FROM AT LEAST 15 OR 20.

WE ARE TRYING TO SAY WHAT IS THE COURT WANT TO DO? COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, YOU SENT US A RECOMMENDATION AND WE WILL PUT THAT IN. YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE HALF OF YOUR - - AND WE APPRECIATE THAT DEDUCTION.

>> I'M TRYING TO GET TO MY NUMBER TWO.

IF I'M NOT THERE, LET ME KNOW. >> JUST SEND ME THE INFORMATION AND ONE OR TWO OTHER WILL - -. WE HAVE THREE SO FAR OF 122.

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THIS IS THE DISCRETION OF THE WE WANT TO ACT AS INDIVIDUALS, IF WE REDUCE THE CAR ALLOWANCE - - THAT IS AN OPTION OF THE

COURT, NOT THE PERSON. >> WHAT IF WE EXCLUDED ALL ELECTIVES? YOU CAN'T TOUCH THE ELECTION

WHAT IF WE EXCLUDED THAT? >> THAT'S BETWEEN YOU AND THE ELECTED OFFICIAL. THE OTHER EMPLOYEES UNDER THEM, THE A COUNTY ATTORNEY, DISTRICT ATTORNEY, COUNTY JUDGE, EACH OF YOU HAVE YOUR OWN ASSISTANT. SAME THING FOR THE OTHER

DEPARTMENTS, THEIR ASSISTANT WITH SMALL AMOUNTS.>> IS THIS SOMETHING WE CANNOTTOUCH OR WOULD HAVE TO BE CONFERRED BY THE ELECTED OFFICIAL ? IF THAT'S THE CASE, AND ELECTED OFFICIAL CAN PROPOSE ANY BUDGET THEY WANT AND WE CAN'T TOUCH IT BECAUSE THEY ARE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.

>> I BELIEVE THAT THE BUSINESS DECISION .

WE'LL HAVE ANYTHING THAT SAYS YOU CANNOT TOUCH THAT, THAT THE BUSINESS AND POLITICAL ISSUE FOR THE COURT.

>> WE SET THE SALARY FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.

>> I DON'T ABOUT THE DIRECTION OF THE COURT AND WHAT THEY WANT

TO DO? >> TO THAT IMPACT THE ELECTED OFFICIAL? DOES THAT IMPACT THEIR SALARY OR RETIREMENT? I KNOW SOME QUALIFIER FOR

RETIREMENT. >> IT DOES NOT GO TO YOUR

PENSION. >> THAT WAS THE IMPORTANT QUESTION, THANK YOU. I THINK AS WE TALK ABOUT THESE COLLECTIVE CUTS, WE APPEAR IN THE SAME BOAT AS A LOT OF THE TWO-PERSON DEPARTMENTS. I THINK THERE ARE STILL SOME

MORE THAT WE CAN DO? >> THIS IS JUST IN REGARDS TO THE CAR ALLOWANCE FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, BUT THE SALARY LETTERS WILL GO OUT FRIDAY.IF YOU INTEND TO CUT, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING SO WE HAVE THE CORRECT DEMAND THOSE

LETTERS. >> JUST SO YOU KNOW COMMISSIONERS, WE CAN KEEP THE BUDGET THEY ARE AND IS UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO PROVIDE AN AFFIDAVIT ON POTENTIAL REDUCTIONS. HOUSEMAN AFFIDAVIT TO REDUCE HALF OFYOUR TRAVEL AMOUNTS AND YOU CAN DO THAT .

ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

>> IF IT'S NOT OUR CAR ALLOWANCE - - THERE WILL BE A NEED FOR SOME REIMBURSEMENTS CREATED BY THAT.

>> IT'S $0.54 PER MILE, WHATEVER THE FEDERAL RATE IS.

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>> WE DON'T PAY THE FEDERAL RATE.

I UNDERSTAND THE FEDERAL WEIGHT RATES WENT UP, BUT WE DO NOT.

>> I'M NOT CUTTING MY CAR ALLOWANCE PROBABLY AS MUCH AS ANYONE LIKE JUDGE SCOTT. I'M NOT GOING TO SUBMIT THE MILEAGE, I'M GOING TO NEED IT AND THAT WILL BE ON ME.

NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE HAS TO DO, THAT'S A PERSONAL CHOICE. I DO KNOW WHERE WE ARE GOING WITH CAR ALLOWANCES AT THIS POINT.

IT IS A NIGHTMARE TO KEEP MILEAGE, BELIEVE ME.

IT IS NIGHTMARISH TOO. >> FOR THOSETHAT HAVE A CAR ALLOWANCE, IF YOU DRIVE WITHIN THE COUNTY, YOU CANNOT SUBMIT

MILEAGE CLAIMS . >> THERE YOU GO, THE ANSWERS

THAT. >> MY SUGGESTION IS TO LEAVE THE ELECTED AND LET THEM DECIDE ON THEIR OWN.

I HAVE NOT TAKEN THE CAR ALLOWANCE AND SIGN THE AFFIDAVIT NOT TO TAKE ANYTHING WHICH TO BE ELECTED.

SOME PEOPLE DO MORE DRIVING, IT WILL HAVE TO BE ON A

CASE-BY-CASE . >> I AM NOT SAYING I WANT TAKE A CUT, BUT FOR EXAMPLE YESTERDAY, I WENT TO - - TO EXPECT THAT CEMETERY THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON .

THEN I WENT - - TO INSPECT HOW THAT'S COMING ON.

I'M NOT SAYING I WON'T TAKE A CUT.JUST SAYING I DO GO OUT THERE AND HAVE A BIGGER AREA THAN ANYBODY ELSE.

MY BUDGET DO NOT INCREASE AND HAVE A LARGER COUNTY AREA.

FOR ME, I DO GO OUT, EVEN IF IT'S ON WEEKENDS.

>> THAT'S A POLITICAL ISSUE. THE CAMPAIGNS TALK ABOUT IT.

WE CANNOT JUSTIFY HOW MUCH WE DO.

I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW THAT BEFORE WE DIRECT TERESA TO SEND THAT THAT INFORMATION. I GUESS WE CAN WAIT ANOTHER WEEK OR SO BEFORE WE SEND THEM OUT.

WE'RE TALKING HYPOTHETICAL, BUT WE HAVE TO SAY EITHER YES OR NO. I KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO OFFEND A LOT OF THE AFFECTED ELECTED OFFICIALS, BUT I FEEL COMFORTABLE IN DOING THAT. WE ALL RUN AROUND, WE SEE THEM EVERYWHERE. IT IS NOT JUST EXCLUSIVE TO US.

LET'S MAKE THAT CALL. IF NOT, LET'S GIVE THOSE BUZZARDS YES OR NO TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND LET THEM MAKE THAT CALL FOR ME KNOW WHAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS.

WE ARE SPINNING OUR WHEELS HERE.

I KNOW IT'S HARD TO MAKE DECISIONS, BUT WE HAVE GOT TO SAY YES OR NO. IF WE LEAVE IT OPTIONAL, I WORRY HOW MUCH SAVINGS YOU WILL ACTUALLY FIND.

WE SHOULD NOW. LEAVING IT UP AS A WORRY TO ME IN THE CONCERN. I USED TO HAVE A DESIGNATION

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BEFORE WE REDO OUR LINES A YEAR AND AND A HALF AGO.

IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU ARE NOT RUNNING BACK AND FORTH TO THE COURTHOUSE AND ANYWHERE IN BETWEEN.

THERE'S QUITE A BIT THAT IS GOING ON.

I AM FINE WITH SAYING TODAY, LET'S MAKE DEDUCTION FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS. THERE ARE EVEN REPORTS THAT SOME HAVE VEHICLES AND CAR ALLOWANCES. DON'T KNOW HOW

ACCURATE THAT IS. >> TO BE HAVE A DIRECTION? I'M GOING TO SAY YES ON THE HALF AND THE DEPARTMENT HAS LED TO COME IN AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THEIR BUDGET AND GIVE US DIRECTION THEN MORE POWER TO THEM.

>> THOSE THAT HAVE VEHICLES, DO THEY HAVE A PEAK CARD FOR GAS?

>> THEY DON'T - - THE GAS CARD IS ASSIGNED TO THE VEHICLE, NOT THE PERSON. AT THE PERSON DRIVING THE CAR, THEY CAN USE IT FOR THAT. WE ARE CONSTANTLY WORKING WITH OURSELVES TO IDENTIFY THOSE THAT ARE DOING THIS AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME - - REQUEST UP POSSIBLY FIND THAT IS THE

DIRECTION OF THE COURT. >> COMMISSIONER MAREZ, ARE YOU SITTING HALF FOR THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AT THE CURRENT LEVEL?

>> NO, I'M SAYING HALF ACROSS THE BOARD.

I AM THROWING THAT OUT THERE FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSEME TO GIVE YOU DIRECTION . THAT'S MY GUT REACTION RIGHT NOW.I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSENSUS OF THIS COURT IS.

IT AFFECTS ALL OF US, BUT WE'VE GOT TO MAKE CUTS.

I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM THE REST OF THE COURT AS FAR AS WHAT THEY THINK AND WHY OR WHY NOT.I ALREADY HAVE MESSAGES

ON MY PHONE. >> I ALREADY CUT MINE AS WELL AND HAVE FOR SOME TIME.I AGREE WITH THAT.

I DID HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE I HAD TURNED ELECTED TO COME TO MY OFFICE AND IT IS PART OF THERE'S AND YOU DO QUITE A BIT OF DRIVING AND ASKED ME TO LEAVE THAT ALONE.

NICK AND OTHER AREAS OF THE BUDGET CUTS AND ASKED PERSONALLY IF WEBELIEVE IT . I AM FINE WITH WHATEVER THE COURT WHICH IS AS WELL. I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT THE ELECTED THEY CAME TO ME SAID THEY MADE THE CUTS ELSEWHERE O

THE BUDGET CUTS . >> WE ALL HAVE AT ONE POINT SIGNED A LETTER DEFERRING INCREASES WHEN EVERYONE ACROSS THE BOARD IS GIVEN 3% OR WHATEVER PERCENT.

IT HAS TO BE APPLIED TO EVERYONE, THAT IS A LEGAL OPINION FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

MOST OF US FOR MULTIPLE YEARS AND CONSECUTIVE YEARS, I GET IT. I FEEL LIKE I HAVE MADE - - OTHER DEPARTMENTS DON'T. I'M TRYING TO HELP THE GREATER GOOD. USING THAT FUNDING TO PUT THE PROJECTS AND PUTTING IT TO FIX OUR ROOF, I'M HOPING THAT'S HELPING THE BIGGER PICTURE. I DON'T KNOW.

THAT IS A TOUGH ONE. IF THE REST OF THE COURT FEELS LIKE NO, WE DON'T NEED TO CUT THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, THOSE SELECTED - - I AM FINE WITH THAT.

>> WE HAVE TO REPORT BACK, YOUR PAY AND CAR ALLOWANCES.

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THIS IS WILL BE AGREED TO PAY WITH YOU.

>> YOU CAN SUSPEND HAVE A CAR ALLOWANCE LIKE YOUCAN SUSPEND ANYTHING ELSE . A LETTER GOES OUT SAYS YOU ARE

GETTING IT BACK. >> IT'S A PART OF THEIR SALARY

THOUGH. >> YOU CAN HACK AND GO TO A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND. THE OTHER HALF YOU USE.

>> IT COULD BE FOR ONE YEAR. >> THERE IS NO SAVINGS TO THE BUDGET IF THEY ARE MOVING INTO USE.

>> NOBODY ELSE HAD THAT OPTION. >> I AM FINE WITH DOING IT ACROSS THE BOARD. I HAVE A COUPLE THEY DID CONTACT ME AND SAID THEY MADE THE CUTS ELSEWHERE BECAUSE THEY

DO NOT WANT TO HAVE THAT. >> NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE DO IT, HE WANTED TO EVERYONE. IT MAKES CONFUSION AND SOMEONE COMES BACK, WHY DID YOU DO THIS?

>> AND THE OTHER COMMENTS? >> I THINK THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, THINK OF THE TAX COLLECTOR EVERY YEAR, THEY COME IN WITH A LEAN BUDGET EVERY YEAR.

THEY ARE NOT OF THE COMPLAINT. SOME DEPARTMENTS FROM ANOTHER OTHERS BUT SPECIFICALLY I THINK OF THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE EITHER WAVING THEIR PAYINCREASE OR DOING MORE WITH LESS .

THAT IS A CONCERN BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT.

THERE ARE SACRIFICES AND SOME OF MAKE GREATER SACRIFICES TO THEIR BUDGETS OVER THEYEARS . I'M TRYING TO BE FAIR.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, SO THE PUBLIC IN HEAR WHAT WE ARE THINKING ON WHAT OUR MINDSET IS .

THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON FOR WANTING TO START THE DISCUSSION ON CAR ALLOWANCE. LET'S SEE WHERE DO WE FEEL.

ARE WE ALL OR NOTHING? I'LL SUPPORT EITHER WAY BUT THINKING OF THOSE TWO OFFICES THAT HAVE BEEN A LOT LESS.

>> I WILL STAY WITH THE CAR ALLOWANCE, WE LOOK AT IT AS THE WEAR-AND-TEAR IN OUR VEHICLES. I LOOK FOR LOCATIONS ALL WEEKEND WRONG LONG. EARLY VOTING, DRIVING AROUND THE COUNTY. WE HAVE SIX ELECTIONS THIS YEAR. JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW, THERE ARE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BEING FOR CAR ALLOWANCE BECAUSE WE DO DRIVE AROUND AND GET THE SAME WEAR AND TEAR AND BEWILL HAVE A

VEHICLE . >> IS TRAVELING ON HERE?

>> THE OTHER THING WE HAVE NOT SPENT MUCH TIME ON IS SUGGESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN FLOATING AROUND.

WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE CONSOLIDATION OF DEPARTMENTS OR THINGS THAT CAN BE HUGE SAVINGS.

I'M NOT TRYING TO GET OFF THIS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEND AN HOUR AND AND AHALF AND CAR ALLOWANCES .

I AM NOT SAYING IT'S A BAD THING, WHAT PART OF THAT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO IS NOT, TAKE AWAY MONEY THAT WILL TAKE AWAY PEOPLE GOOD $150,000 IS THREE PEOPLE.

IF WE TAKE AWAY $150,000 CAR ALLOWANCES, THAT IS THREE PEOPLE WE CAN SAY SOMEWHERE ELSE.WE ARGUE THAT WITH DUES

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AND SUBSCRIPTIONS AN OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDS.

THAT HAS BEEN MY ARGUMENT ALL ALONG.ANYWHERE WE CAN CUT DOLLARS THAT ARE NOT PEOPLE IS A GOOD THING.

EVERYBODY DOESN'T GET THE THREE YEAR, THAT'S NOT IN HERE.

IS A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND, $220,000 WORTH OF SAVINGS THAT EVERYONE IS NOT GET THERE WHICH I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THIS POLICY BUT I'M NOT GOING THERE RIGHT NOW.

EVERYBODY SAYS. >> TAKE AWAY ONE CYCLE OF IT TO BE FAIR, THUS $220,000 A YEAR FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

>> COMMISSIONER, THIS YEAR IS THESMALLEST YEAR .

THE LARGEST YEAR ANYWHERE, PROBABLY 500,000.

YOU TALKING ALMOST A MILLION. >> IT STINKS, BUT RAISES ARE NOT LETTING PEOPLE GO. IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT.

YOU ARE FOREGOING ARRAYS WHICH NOBODY WANTS TO DO BUT WE ARE IN A TOUGH TIME. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY OUGHT TO GET A RAISE THIS YEAR, I DON'T WANT TO CUT PEOPLE TO GIVE SOMEONE ELSE ALREADY IS. THAT SHOULD BE IN THE TABLE TO DISCUSS, IS NOT IN HERE. WE LOVE CONSOLIDATION OF SERVICES IN HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO COME TO A CONSENSUS YET.THOSE ARE THE THINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

DOLLARS, EVERY DOLLAR ADDS UP. WHERE ARE THOSE THINGS? THEY ARE SENSITIVE, I GET IT. TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE NOT BEING IN THE DEPARTMENT ANYMORE BUT THERE ARE 21 VACANCIES.

THE AVOCADO HOW MANY VACANCIES WECAN ELIMINATE OR CUT ACROSS THE BOARD THAT COULD SAVE US A LOT OF MONEY .

WE HAVE 201 VACANCIES ACCORDING TO DALE.

THEY CAN SIT HERE NOW AND SAY LET'S CUT 40 VACANCIES, WHAT DOES THAT EQUATE TO? DEPARTMENTS GO DON'T CUT MINE, I GET IT. IF YOU ARE TRYING TO SAVE PEOPLE, WE WANT TO SAVE PEOPLE. CAR ALLOWANCES ARE NOT PEOPLE, DUES ARE NOT PEOPLE. WE'VE GOT WAYS TO DO THAT AND MOVE SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE CAN SELL THE DEPARTMENTS INTO OTHER VACANCIES WE HAVE NOT CUTS.

MAYBE IS NOT THE IDEAL THAT IT IS AT THE MOMENT.

IF YOU CONSOLIDATE VETERAN SERVICE AND SOCIAL SERVICES, YOU HAVE TO MOVE SOME OF THE PEOPLE FROM SOCIAL SERVICES INTO OTHER DEPARTMENTS. GUESS WHAT? THINGS MIGHT BE BETTER AND WE MAY BE ABLE TO MOVE THEM BACK IN TO THOSE APARTMENTS NEXT YEAR IF THINGS ARE BETTER.

WE'VE GOT TO KEEP THINKING OUT OF THE BOX AND BE CREATIVE AND SAVE PEOPLE THAT WE CAN BUT REDUCE FORCE WHERE WE NEED TO AND ONLY POSITIONS.THEIR SUPPOSITIONS I'LL TAKE ME TO HAVE AN POSITIONS AROUND US WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO GO WITH SOME OF THAT.

IF YOU ARE ONE OF CONSENSUS, I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT KIND OF STUFF TOO AND MAKE SOME DECISIONS.

IT'S HARD AND THEY SAW, BUT IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE TO MOVE THE PEOPLE TEMPORARILY IF THEY SO CHOOSE, THOSE ARE LEGITIMATE CUTS WITHOUT PUTTING PEOPLE. NONE IF THAT IS ON HIS LIST OF

WHAT YOU WANT CONSENSUS FOR. >> WE WILL GO TO THE NEXT ITEM.

>> WE CAN JUST MAKE MOTIONS WHEN IT'S TIME TO VOTE.

>> IS NOT NECESSARILY A MOTION BECAUSE LIKE YOU ARE GOING IN THE BUDGET ALREADY.IN THE MOTION IS NOT THE RIGHT THING TO SAY, YOU ALL AGREE AND WE KNOW THE AGREEMENT OF THE STAFF LATER ON FOR AN ACTUAL VOTE, YOU ALL CAN DECIDE.I DON'T NECESSARILY NEED A MOTION OR A BOW ON IT, BUT THAT IS YOUR

DECISION. >> I AGREE, MY SIX PREVIOUS BUDGETS, IT'S ALWAYS COME DOWN TO THE LAST DAY AND THERE WILL

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BE A FLURRY OF MOTIONS TO KEEP, DELETE, MODIFY - - IF YOU WANT DIRECTION, COMMISSIONER CHESNE , HAVE TO AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT YOU SAID. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENED.

[LAUGHTER]. I AGREE.

IF YOU WANT TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN THAT WE HAVE TRIED TO USE HIS EXTRA BENEFITS OVER THE YEARS MAYBE HAS TO BE LIMITED FOR ONE IF IT MEANS SAVING EVERY SINGLE PERSON.

THAT'S A PRIORITY TO ME, SAVING EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT HAS A JOB. VACANCIES IS ANOTHER THING, HARBOR HER TO THINK THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL LOCATIONS OF SITUATIONS WHERE WE FIND THE DEPARTMENTS ARE GOING TO BE STUCK IN A SEASON OF LOSING POSITIONS.

THEY WILL BE ABLE TO FILL THEM IN THE KNOW, YOU WERE STUCK IN WILL HAVE TO BE LIKE THAT FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

THEY ARE RAMIFICATION TO WHAT WE DECIDE.

I WILL LEAN TOWARDS IF WE NEED TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS ON BUDGET CUTS, THAT MEANS SAVING AS MANY POSITIONS AS WE CAN.

ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE EMPLOYEES THAT COME IN EVERY DAY JUST TRYING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILIES.

JUMPING DOWN A COUPLE OF SPOTS, THE FAIRGROUNDS IS BEING BROUGHT UP AS FAR AS ASSETS. THAT IS TO ACTUALLY ASK IF WE WANT TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION AND SEE AN ACTUAL SAVINGS, IS

THAT WHAT THAT MEANS? >> THE FUNDS FOR THE OUTLET MALL REQUIRED BY LAW BECAUSE OF THE BOND ISSUED FUNDS FOR ASSETS AND REPAIRS TO THE FAIRGROUNDS.

THERE IS $1.1 MILLION AVAILABLE THEREFORE WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CAPITALIZE INCLUDING BUILDING OTHER BUILDING.

>> RECORDS MANAGEMENT ON SOME OF THE PROPERTY AROUND THE ARE . YOU ALSO HAVE TO KEEP THIS IN

MIND. >> IS LIKE THE NEXT ITEM, BOW DISTRICT FOR FUNDING THAT CAN ONLY BE APPLIED TO THAT AREA.

THAT'S THE SAME THING HERE? THAT'S THE OPINION FROM YOUR

OFFICE? >> IT SHOULD BE ONE-TIME

PROJECTS, NOT CONTINUAL. >> I'M TRYING TO GET AWAY UNDERSTAND FOR ANYONE THAT IS FOLLOWING ALONG, THE SUPPLY.

>> GET THAT MAN SOME GUM. [LAUGHTER].

>> I'M TRYING TO TALK THIS THROUGH SO I CAN PROCESS IT MYSELF. FOR YEARS, WE HAD THAT ROW DISTRICT FOR FUNDING ONLY APPLIED TO THE COASTAL OR THAT

DISTRICT THAT WAS CREATED. >> I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AGAINST THE WAY THAT IS USED TO THE FACT IS, YOU POST THOSE FUNDS COMMISSIONER ON A ROAD THAT ACTUALLY HAS BOUNDARIES CAN ERODE FOR. SOMETHING TOUCH CAN ERODE FOUR.

USING MY FOR OTHER REASONS BUT MONEY WAS RESTRICTED AT ONE

POINT . >> IS NOT AN ISSUE I LOOKED AT

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TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION, I CAN'T ANSWER THE ON THE FLY.

I CAN STILL DO THE RESEARCH AND PULL IT UP.

>> THERE HAS TO BE A PROJECT THAT FITS IT.

MOST OF THE ROADWORK IS NOT AN ROW DISTRICT FOR IN THIS COUNT . MOST OF MY AREAS IN THE CITY.

THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT HARD TO SPEND THOSE FUNDS BECAUSE IT IS

AN ROW DISTRICT FOR. >> THAT IS WHAT THE JUDGE IS TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS THE RECORDS WAREHOUSE .

IF YOU CAN SHIP THE MONEY AROUND, WE CAN MOVE ONE THAT ONLY APPLIES TO A CERTAIN PART OF THE COUNTY.

I AM GOOD WITH THAT. >> THESE FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR ANYTHING WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE FAIRGROUNDS.

WE HAVE A LARGE AREA OF PROPERTY THERE.

IF WE SAY WE WILL BILL THE RECORDS WAREHOUSE AT THE FAIRGROUNDS LETTING COVER THIS, WE WILL NEED FUNDS FROM

ANYWHERE ELSE. >> I REMEMBER YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AGREEMENTS, THAT IS THE MONEY THAT IS IN THE FUND THAT THEY CAN SEND US AN INVOICE WHENEVER THEY PURCHASE PROPERTY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR LIKE THIS PAST YEAR, THIS IS AN INVOICE FOR SOME PROPERTY OR A PORTION WE HAD TO PAY. WE WERE ALLOWED TO PAY IT OUT FOR FIVE YEARS BUT ONLY HAD THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF MONEY IN THE ACCOUNT. YOU HAVE TO ADD MONEY EVENTUALLY IN PREPARING FOR THIS IN CASE THEY DECIDE TO

PURCHASE MORE INCENTIVES. >> YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO SEND US A BILL OR IF THEY PLAN ON BUILDING OTHER BRIDGE TO THE ISLAND THIS IS WHERE THE FUNDS COME FROM.

RIGHT NOW THERE IS $500,000 IN THE FUND.

>> THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH MONEY IN THE FUND TO PAY IT.

>> GOING BACK TO THAT, WHAT IS THE LEAST? IS IT A MONTH-TO-MONTH LEASE ON THE RECORDS WAREHOUSE?

>> RIGHT NOW, YES. >> IF WE WENT IN AND SAID, THERE MIGHT BE EVEN SOME SPACE OUT THERE.

WE HAVE ALOT OF SPACE OUT THERE THAT IS NOT GET USED ALL THE TIME . WOULD WE EVEN NEED TO BUILD SOMETHING NEW OR COULD WE REHAB SOMETHING OUT THERE NOW AND USE THAT FOR THE RECORDS WAREHOUSE AND SAVE THAT MONEY?

>> THAT THE TIMELINE - - HAD SOME STUFF STORED THERE SOMETIMES, HE HAD TO TAKE IT OUT.

>> LET ME ASK EDWARD, THAT'S A ONE TIME A YEAR THING AND IT'S A BIG DEAL. AGAIN, WE ARE LOOKING FOR EVERYTHING WE CAN. WE HAVE SPACE OUT THERE FOR THIS IS A GOOD IDEA, SOME OF THESE ASSETS TO REHAB OR REPURPOSE THE RECORD WAREHOUSE SPACE AND ELIMINATE THE SPACE COMPLETELY OR PAY OURSELVES HALF OF THAT TO OFFSET SOME OF THE LOT THE LOST REVENUE WE HAVE.

>> THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING. >> THE ONLY THING AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW IS THE EXHIBIT HALL A. THAT'S THE AIR-CONDITIONED LARGE WING. WE WILL REDUCE THE SHOW, THAT IS THE ONE BIG PORTION THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.

THAT'S THE ONLY HEATED AND COOLING BAR.

>> THE SHELL IS UNDER THAT EXHIBIT A AS WELL.

TAKING AWAY THE WHOLE SHOW. >> IT IS DONE IN THE MAIN AREA

OF THE SHOW? >> IS THERE AN AREA UP THERE THAT WE COULD ENCLOSE THAT IS NOT BEING UTILIZED AS MUCH?

>> WE WOULD HAVE TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE SHOW.

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>> HOW MANY TIMES A YEAR DO YOU USE THE WHOLE SPACE LIKE THAT?

>> THAT YOU MERELY BY THE GUN SHOW.

>> SIMILAR TO THE LIVESTOCK? >> HERE'S THE DEAL.WE KNOW WE LOSE MONEY IN THE FACILITY EVERY YEAR.

HOW DO WE HELP OURSELVES BY GETTING RID OF THE $200,000 A YEAR LEASE AND USE THAT SPACE? MAYBE WE PAY OURSELVES SOME OF IT. LET'S BE CREATIVE.

I MUST THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING TODAY, GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT OR ANY OTHER COUNTY FACILITY. IT CAN BE ANY CANDY FACILITY THAT WE ARE UNDER UTILIZING THE WEEKEND REHAB.

JUST LIKE WE ARE DOING WITH BRINGING THE OTHERS, IT'S THE SAME THING. HOW CAN WE REPURPOSE SOMETHING WE CURRENTLY OWN? IT DOESN'T MATTER THE RECORD

WAREHOUSE. >> 60,000 SQUARE-FOOT.

OUR RECORDS NEEDS TO BE 60,000 SQUARE-FOOT.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE OLD - -, IS ANY SPACE OR LAND?

>> IS CURRENTLY LICENSED TO BE RUBS DOWN, THEY'RE USING THAT FOR THEIR ANIMALS. THEY PAY FOR THE UTILITIES.

THEY PUT SOME ROOF ON IT BUT I WILL NOT PUT STUFF THERE.

THEY NEED TO BE AIR-CONDITIONE .

>> I PUT MONEY DIRECTLY TO THE ROOF.

>> OKAY, THERE IS NO AIR CONDITIONING.

>> BY KEEPING IN MIND, THIS MONEY HERE HAS TO BE USED AT THE ROB SOUND FAIRGROUND BUILDING IF WE WANT TO UTILIZE

THIS 1.1 MILLION. >> IT COULD OFFSET ONE YEAR.

I KNOW COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IS AGAINST OFFSETTING FOR A YEAR, BUT YOU COULD OFFSET THE TRANSFER AND FOR ABOUT A YEAR,

RIGHT? >> NO.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OPERATION .

>> ANIMAL CARE WITH A ONE-YEAR OFFSET, JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT

WILL GO ON AND ON. >> 1.1 MILLION HAS TO BE A

CAPITAL EXPENSE. >> GOOD IDEA.

COME BACK WITH SOMETHING PRETTY QUICK, IF YOU CAN YOU CAN USE

THE MONEY. >> PUT THE OFFICE IN THE

HILLTOP. >> HILLTOP WOULD BE NICE, THEY

MIGHT WANT TO GO OVER THERE. >> EXCEPT YOU CAN USE THIS MONEY OVER THERE TO RENOVATE FOR A RECORDS MANAGEMENT.

>> I DON'T BELIEVE IS 60,000 FT.B2.

>> NOT ENOUGH, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REDONE.

>> THE BUILDING PLUS THE AREA? >> THE BUILDING PLUS THE AREA.

>> THIS A MILLION CANNOT BE USED OVER THERE? IT HAS TO BE USED TO THE FAIRGROUNDS.THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE MONEY TO DO THAT.

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>> JUDGE, GOING BACK TO NUMBER EIGHT, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN THE STATE WILL SENATOR BILL BECAUSE BY LAW WE ARE REQUIRED TO PURCHASE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THESE ROADWAYS.E NEVER KNOW WHERE A MAJORITY OF THE FUNDS DO COME FROM. RIGHT NOW THERE ARE $40,000 THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED ADDITIONAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS NOW WE WAIT UNTIL WE START GETTING BILLS BUT AS YOU SAID, THEY CAN SEND THE BILL PRETTY QUICKLY SAYING WE NEED AS MUCH MONEY IN FOR FIVE YEARS

AND WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH IT. >> WE COULD PROBABLY WAIT A YEAR AT LEAST. WE CAN READDRESSTHIS NEXT YEAR

WITH A BETTER BUDGET . >> I AGREE.

>> NUMBER SEVEN, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FUNDS, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ROADWAYS YOU ARE WORKING THAT THIS WOULD JUSTIFY THIS YEAR. I BELIEVE NUMBER SEVEN IS AT NO

AS WELL. >> JUDGE: SO MAYBE FOR THE 01 80 BUT NOT THE 120? THESE DECISIONS WE ARE MAKING ON THIS LIST HERE, THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED IF WE DID THE 3.5 INCREASE, THAT PUT US OUT OF A POSITIVE AT THE END? SOME OF THESE ARE, THE 1115 WAIVER ISNOT AFFECTED .

THESE ARE MINIMAL AMOUNTS. >> THAT IS CORRECT.

ANY ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE YOU GIVE US, WE CAN PUT IN THE PROPOSED SO THAT THIS NOTEBOOK THAT WE KEEP REPRINTING FOR YOU

BECOMES MORE AND MORE ACCURATE. >> WITH THE DEPARTMENT THAT HAVE ALREADY CUT AND THESE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE OTHER THAN THESE IN RED HERE, THESE ARE ALREADY INCLUDED IN THIS.

>> I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF THESE ITEMS ARE ALREADY INCLUDED.

>> THIS WILL BE INCREASING. I THOUGHT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT STUFF WAS INCLUDED IN THIS ONE. WE DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT ANYMORE BECAUSE WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT

THAT, I WAS JUST CLARIFYING. >> THE ONE ITEM TERESA PUT IN HERE FOR YOUR OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDS, YOU RECEIVE $20,000 EACH YEAR, SO ON THE BUDGET SO THEY CAN BE A DISCUSSION.

RIGHT NOW, THAT THE $20,000 HAVE NOT BEEN TAKEN OUT, THEY ARE STILL IN THE BUDGET. THE DIRECTION OF WHAT THE COURT

WANTS TO DO. >> I THINK EVERYONE'S WILL BE TAKEN OUT FOR ONEYEAR, IT IS DOLLARS THAT SAVES PEOPLE .

THAT'S THE WHOLE TEAM I AM LOOKING AT.

WHERE CAN WE CUT DOLLARS THAT DON'TCUT PEOPLE .

>> I DON'T AGREE. >> I UNDERSTAND THERE MAY NOT BE CONSISTENT ON THAT. 100 GRAND IS THREE PEOPLE 2.5 PEOPLE. ALL I'M TRYING NOT TO CUT

PEOPLE. >> I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE THREATENING PEOPLE THAT WE ARE GOING TO CUT PEOPLE.

WE SHOULD GO ALONG WITH THE PUNCHES, THE MONEY IS THERE.

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WE SAW SOME OF THAT EARLIER. I WILL CAREFULLY KICK THE CAN THREE TIMES ON THE ROAD, LET'S KICK IT.

IT WILL SAVE PEOPLE, LET'S KICK IT.

>> THIS IS NOT PEOPLE, IS DOLLARS FOR OUTSIDE AGENCIES.

>> WE HAVE ALREADY SUGGESTED THAT BUT HE'S ASKING FOR THIS PARTICULAR CATEGORY. I WANT TO DO IT WHETHER THE COURTDOES NOT DO IT . I THINK WE ALSO BE IN THIS TOGETHER AND DO IT FOR ONE YEAR.

IF YOU DON'T, THAT'S OKAY. >> SYNTHES NONDISCRETIONARY BETWEEN EACH COURT MEMBER, MAYBE YOU CAN SEND US AN EMAIL TO DELETE THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OR DON'T TOUCH

IT. >> I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW,

DON'T TOUCH IT. >> COMMISSIONER: IF IT FAILS, IT FAILS. WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER OR NOT. I'M STILL GOING TO DO WHETHER THE COURT DOESN'T DO IT AND I WILL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HELP THEM ANYWAY BUT WE ALL OUGHT TO DO THIS.

THAT'S OKAY IF YOU DON'T. >> IF WE ARE NOT GOOD TO MAKE ANY DECISIONS TODAY, WHY ARE WE SPINNING OUR WHEELS? WE HAVE DONE OUR HOMEWORK NEED TO SEND IT OFF I DON'T MIND SHARING THIS WITH THE MEDIA OR WHOEVER WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE. WE DO OR SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF SPECIAL REVENUE MONEY, MOST IF NOT ALL OF US TO TERESA.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, I HAVE ALREADY STATED PUBLICLY, IT MAY SOUND BAD BUT IN THE END, I DON'T MIND REPURPOSE THE MONEY THAT I HAVE TO ENSURE THAT THERE WILL STILL BE OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING. WHETHER WE CALL THAT ARE NOT, THOSE AGENCIES THAT WE SUPPORT THROUGHOUTTHE YEAR , I AM SO COMMITTED AND HAVE MONEY TO SUPPORT THAT.

THIS IS A PRACTICE AND ALSO SHOWING THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE CUTS HERE, WHAT IS THE USE OF HAVING BALANCE SOMEWHERE ELSE IF YOU WANT APPLY THEM TO ACTUAL SAVINGS.

THAT IS MY MINDSET WITH THIS. WE ALL AGREE AND GIVE THEM MONEY EVERYWHERE TO EACH OF THESE GROUPS.

I DO FEEL THAT SO SAVE SOME POSITIONS.

WE GOT TO REPURPOSE MONEY AND I AM ALL THE REPURPOSE THING.

THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE IT GOES ON RECORD.

WE DO NEED TO BE CONSENSUS ON THIS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, WE CAN'T NITPICK 20,000 HERE OR THERE.

WE WILL THROW OUT A FLURRY OF MOTIONS AT THE END BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE STUCK ON THIS FOR QUITE A WHILE.

>> MAY ADDRESS THE COURT? I DO NOT KNOW THE PROCESS IS GOING TO BE TODAY. THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK AT THE END OF LAST WEEK WANT EITHER DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS OR THOSE DESIGNATED TO COME AND DEAL WITH THIS BUDGET CRISIS. FOR OUR OFFICE, WE JUST NEED DECISIONS. AT THIS POINT, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M OFFERING MYSELF UP IN OUR DEPARTMENT BUT I WOULD RATHER YOU JUST LOOK AT OUR PROPOSAL AND LET ME KNOWWHAT YOU ARE THINKING, LET ME TELL YOU WHY WE HAVE DONE THAT WE HAVE DONE . WHETHER IT IS RIGHTNOW OR LATER ON . WE JUST CAN'T LIVE IN LIMBO ANYMORE, IT IS TOO HARD. I WOULD RATHER JUST GET THIS OVER WITH QUITE HONESTLY. I'M USUALLY NOT NERVOUS STANDING IN FRONT OF A COURT, IS WHAT I DO EVERY SINGLE DAY THAT MY HEART IS POUNDING BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE DOWN IN OUR OFFICE WHO HAVE THEUNCERTAINTY MEANING A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY ARE FEELING THE SAME THING .

WE JUST NEED TO ADDRESS THIS. WE SUBMITTED AN ORIGINAL PROPOSED BUDGET AND SUBSEQUENTLY AMENDED IT.

WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IN THE ELIMINATION OF FIVE POSITIONS IN OUR OFFICE AND EVEN THOUGH ONE OF THEM IS OCCUPIED, THAT PERSON WILL BE PUT IN ANOTHER OPEN VACANT POSITION.

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IN TERMS OF ANYBODY LOSING A CHILD WITHIN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS OFFICE , THE ANSWER IS NO.

WHAT WE DID WAS, WE DECIDED TO MAKE A STRATEGY AND WE DECIDED TO DO THE REDUCTION WITH A PLAN AND A HOPE FOR ATTENTION.

IN A LIMITING THOSE FIVE POSITIONS, THE END BUDGET AMOUNT THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO CUT IS $180,847 AND THREE CENTS. I PROPOSE THE IDEA WE GOT FROM THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE DID AND YOU PRAISE THEM EARLIER.

WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE COMING ON BOARD THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO AND WE NEED 27 ATTORNEYS IN ORDER TO BE FULLY EFFECTIVE.

THAT MEANS OUR VIOLENT CRIME AND GANG PROSECUTORS WILL SERVE AS LINE PROSECUTORS. IF THAT MEANS DOING WHAT WE ARE HOPING TO DO WHICH IS ALLOCATE SOME OF THE MONEY THAT IS GOING TO BE SAVED FOR THE ILLUMINATION OF THOSE FIVE POSITIONS AND IN TURN DO PAGER INCREASES.

I KNOW TWO GROUPS IS A LOT TO ASK IF YOU WANT TO BE A REDUCTION BUT IT WOULD GIVE EACH ATTORNEY A SEVEN TO $10,000 RAISE. I KNOW COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IT, YOUSAID YOU DON'T WANT TO RAISE RIGHT NOW BUT WOULD GET THE LOOK AT IS THE BIG PICTURE . OUR OFFICE IMPACTSEVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT . YOU SHOULD SEE THAT.

I WENT TO THE CHECK REGISTRIES FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A LONG TIME AND WE ARE PAYING 40,000 AND INMATE TRANSFER FEES YOU HAVE MILLION DOLLARS IN GRANTS RELIANT ON COMPLIANCE IN OUR OFFICE PLAYS A BIG ROLE IN THA , OUR OFFICE ASKING FOR A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN ORDER TO RETAIN THE SEASON PROSECUTORS THAT WE NOW HAVE, THAT IS A LITTLE ASK WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THIS COUNTY AND THEY ALL LEAVE.YOU WILL HAVE TO WRITE A LOT OF BIG CHECKS.

WE ARE DOING IT OURSELVES AND MAKING THE CUT, GIVING THEM THE RAISE AND STILL GIVING YOU WILL HUNDRED $80,000 BACK.

THAT WAY TO GET AHEAD OF ALL THOSE STUDY AND WE ARE NOT EQUAL TO OTHER AREAS IN OUR JURISDICTION AND PAY.

WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING DECREASES IN OUR SUPPLIES AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. WE HAVE A NEW - -4 2023 AND WE WILL SUPPLEMENT WITH THAT. WITH RESPECT TO CAR ALLOWANCES, OUR LINE PROSECUTORS AREALREADY UNDERPAID .MARK DOES NOT WANT TO AGREE TO TAKE AWAY LINE PROSECUTORS CAR ALLOWANCES.

IF YOU WILL GO WITH OUR PROPOSAL AND ALLOW THESE STEP INCREASES OR PAGER INCREASES, FOR THE SUPERVISORS WE WILL DO AWAY WITH OUR CAR ALLOWANCE. EVEN THOUGH WE ARE OUT THERE A LOT, PROSECUTORS ARE LOOKING FOR WITNESSES, DRIVING AROUND LOOKING FOR WITNESSES TRYING TO INTERVIEW PEOPLE TRYING TO LOCATE CRIME SCENES AND TO DO THAT PERSONAL OBSERVATION SO THEY HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR TRIALS AND HEARINGS.

THE LINE PROSECUTORS, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU DO NOT TOUCH THEIR CAR ALLOWANCES. WHETHER YOU FEEL APPROPRIATE FOR SUPERVISORS, WE WOULD DEFER TO YOUR DECISION-MAKING POWER.

>> HOW MANY ATTORNEYS YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW?

>> WE ARE 10 SHORT OF THE 27, SO ABOUT 17.

THAT'S NOT INCLUDING THE APPELLATE SIDE, I'M TALKING

LINE PROSECUTORS. >> WEBPAGES YOUR BUDGET ON?

>> 278. >> WE DO NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO

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PUT IN ANY RECOMMENDATIONS. >> THE ONLY THING WE HAVE THE

YOUR BUDGET SHOWS AN INCREASE. >> I DO NOT ASK FOR ANY INCREASES. NEVER BUDGET WAS SUBMITTED, WE DID THE WHOLE. IF THERE WERE ANY INCREASES, THAT WAS NOT DONE BY ME, IT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE AUDITORS

WITHOUT MY APPROVAL. >> THAT IS ALL WE HAVE IN OUR BUDGET COMING IN TODAY. WE WILL CERTAINLY REVIEW

WHATEVER IT IS. >> WITHOUT ASKED TO SUBMIT THIS SHEET REGULARLY SHOWS MY BUDGET SAVINGS.

I DO NOT ASK FOR AN INCREASE IN ANYTHING.

>> WE DO NOT SUBMIT. THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO PUT BEFORE YOU IS.

>> LAW IS IN INTEGRAL PART OF WHAT WE DO.

IT'S A BIG COST SAVINGS OF THE COUNTY BECAUSE A LOT OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS USE IT . WESTLAW IS LIKE ASKING YOU ALL TO DO AWAY WITH ANY ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE.

IT'S REALLY GOOD THE LAW AND THE INFORMATION, IT'S WHAT THE JUDGES NEED AND HAS TO BE UP-TO-DATE.

I ASKED YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING IN REGARD TO WESTLAW, IT'S A

LIFELINE FOROUR OFFICE . >> IS COUNTYWIDE.

WE WORK WITH MICHAEL ROBINSON AND EACH DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT DECIDES WHAT PROGRAM ORLEVEL THEY WANT TO HAVE .

>> THAT IS ALL ONLINE FOR WESTLAW?>> THERE ARE VERY FEW BOOKS WE HAVE TO ORDER. THE PROSECUTORS - - WE DID REDUCE SOME OF THAT. THE OTHER THING I WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER AND MAYBE IT IS TOO LATE, THE CENTRAL JURY ROOM WHEN WE HAVE BAKED MURDER TRIALS AND CAPITAL MURDER TRIALS, YOU ARE POPULAR CALLING IN 100 250 PEOPLE TO SERVE IN JURY DUTY.I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU EXPECT US ALL TO HAVE JURY SELECTION FOR OUR BIG MURDERS AND CAPITAL MURDERS.

YOU CAN SQUEEZE 100 200 PEOPLE EVEN IN HALF THAT.

WHEN I WAS PUT THEM UP INTO THREE SECTIONS AND THEYARE STILL SARDINES IN THEIR. I WOULD ASK THAT YOU STOP AND THINK . THAT WILL COMPLETE THE STALL THE TRIAL PROCESS IF WE LOSE THAT ROOM.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE GO TO PICK OUR JURIES.

>> THAT WAS NOT HIGH ON OUR LIST.

I WAS ONE OF FIVE OPTIONS. >> I UNDERSTAND.I AM LOOKING AT IT, I SAW IT ON THE JULY 23 COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING YOU ALL WANTED OUT TO 400,000 TO DO THE ARCHITECTURE TO GO AHEAD AND BILL THAT OUT. FOR MY PURPOSES, I WILL ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT I THINK IS GOING TO SAVE PEOPLE MONEY.

>> WE DIRECT VETERAN SERVICES AND SOCIAL SERVICES TO RESTRICT THEIR OFFICE SPACE NEEDS. I THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE ANYMOR

. >> I AM SORRY YOU DID NOT GET THEPAPERWORK, BUT I SUBMITTED IT ON AUGUST 18 .

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I AM HAPPY TO COME BACK AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. OUR PORTION FOR 2023 WAS 56,000 AND THE SHERIFF GOT 56,000. WE HAVE ALLOCATED AT LEAST BY ASK IN OUR PROPOSAL, WE WOULD LIKE TO BUY WITH SOME OF THE GRANT MONEY. WE OFFERED UP WAS FAIR DAY BAGS. THAT IS A SPECIAL BAG SLEEPER CELL PHONES AND TABLETS AND SO WHEN OFFICERS CONFISCATE THEM, EVEN NOW IF YOU TURN IT ON AIRPLANE MODE, THERE ARE WAYS THEY CAN LOGINAND ERASE DATA AND INFORMATION .

YOU PUT IN THE FARADAY BAG, IT PRESERVES IT.

THE OTHER THING WE ARE HOPING TO DO WITH THE MONEY IS A LOT SOME TO HELP THE CPD INTERNET CRIME DIVISION GET MORE UNLOCKS ON CELL PHONES TO SPEED UP THE TRIAL PROCESS IS.

THAT WILL BE ABOUT 15 GRAND. THE REST OF IT WHICH IS ABOUT 30 IS WHAT WE WILL SUPPLEMENT SUPPLIES OUT OF OUR OFFICE.

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>> THEY SHALL POSSIBLY A REMOVAL OF FOR ATTORNEYS IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT'S AROUND A REDUCTION OF THREE NEW $66,000 WITH A RECLASSIFICATION THAT YOU ALL JUST GOT OF 263 IF YOU ALLOW THE REDUCTION IN RECLASSIFICATION.

>> THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAD.

JUST THINK, IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAD.

>> I DO NOT SUBMIT THAT ORIGINALLY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

>> I AM LOOKING AT THE REQUEST VACATION THAT YOU HAVE ASKED FORBEFORE WHICH INCREASE YOUR BUDGET .

. THE DEPARTMENT HAD ASKED FOR A BUNCH OF RECLASSIFICATIONS WITH HER SALARY INCREASES AND IT SHOWED A NET GAIN OF 252,000 WITH NO OFFSET.

>> THE OFFSET IS ON A DIFFERENT PAGE.

IT SHOWS POSITIONS, ON ONE PAGE AND IT WAS THE WAY IT WAS LAID OUT. THE POSITIONS CUTON ONE PAGE AND THE RECLASSIFICATIONS ARE ON ANOTHER .

>> )ORIGINAL SHOWED AN INCREASE IN THE DA BUDGET THAT WE HAD.

>> PLEASE NOTE, WE NEVER WOULD'VE OFFENDED THE COURT, COUNTY OR OTHER EMPLOYEES BY REQUESTING RAISES FOR OUR PEOPLE AND INCREASING THE BUDGET, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN SO WRONG AND I HOPE NO DEPARTMENT IS DOING THAT.

WE CERTAINLY DID NOT. >> AGAIN, AS THE JUDGE CLARIFIED, LOVE THE SUBMISSIONS WERE MADE BEFORE EVERYONE KNEW THEBUDGET WAS GOING TO BE LIKE. NOBODY THOUGHT YOU DID THAT .

>> ONLY INCREASES WE SHOW WERE NOT PRINTING THEY HAD TO DO.

THE INSURANCE WENTUP TO MY CAR RENTALS WENT UP .

THOSE WERE REQUIRED TO BE INCREASED.

>> NOBODY THOUGHT YOU DID THAT. >> IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT COME UP, PLEASE LET US KNOW. WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER THIS. OUR JOB DESCRIPTIONS ARE DIFFERENT, THEY ARE CRIMINAL. IT'S FELONY ONE CRIMINAL, FELONY TWO CRIMINAL, MISDEMEANOR CRIMINAL.

WE DEAL WITH 14,000 TO 18,000 CASES A YEAR.

IT IS GROWING. WE HAVE SEEN THE RAMIFICATIONS.

IF YOU LOOK AT OUR TRIAL RECORD, WE ARE DOING EXCELLENT.

A LOT OF TRIALS AND CLEARING OUT OF THE JAIL.

PLEASE CONSIDER ALLOWING THOSE PAY GROUP STEPS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> TO ANY OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS WANT TO COME UP AN TALK ? YES, REBECCA AND JUAN, GO AHEAD DO YOU KNOW OR SOCIAL SERVICES

IS IN OUR BOOK? >> SOCIAL SERVICES BEGINS, THE DEMONSTRATION IS Q 87. SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED TO THE RESIDENCE WITHIN NUNCES COUNTY IS ON Q 88 INTO THE PROTECTIVE SERVICES IS ON Q 89. THREE PAGES IN A ROW.

>> WE HAVE ALREADY GONE OVER THIS LAST TIME.

ALL I HAVE FOR YOU IS A HANDOUT FROM SOME OF THE OTHER SOCIAL SERVICE GROUPSWITHIN THE COMMUNITY .

IT'S ADDRESSING POTENTIAL CUTS. I LET THEM KNOW I WOULD PROVIDE THAT TO THE COURT AND THAT IS WHAT I'M DOING.

THAT'S FROM OUR PARTNER AGENCIES.

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THERE MAY BE SOME MORE COMING IN AND I WILL GET THOSE TO YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT.

>> ONE? PUBLIC WORKS, WHAT NUMBER IS

HE? >> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, BASED ON THE 15% REQUESTED WERE CUT IN OUR DEPARTMENT, OUR VOTING BRIDGE ESTIMATED ABOUT 1.3 MILLION FROM THE VOTING BRIDGE ITSELF. THE TOTAL AMOUNT WAS ABOUT 500,000 IN MATERIALS AND ABOUT 600,000 AND CAPITAL.

OUR MATERIALS FOR THE VOTING BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION WILL GO DOWN, ESPECIALLY NOW WITH THE INCREASE OF MATERIALS, IT WAS ABOUT 2.5 TIMES THE COST OF WHAT WE NORMALLY PAY LAST YEAR.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE VOTING BRIDGE IMPROVEMENTS FOR CONSTRUCTION AND REHABILITATION WILL PROBABLY GET CUT HALF OF WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. NORMALLY WE DO ANYWHERE FROM - - PER YEAR. BASED ON HIS PROPOSED BUDGET CUTS, WE WILL PROBABLY BE DOING HALF OF THAT LESS THAN HALF OF THAT. HE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THE MATERIALS THAT WE NEED. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE POINTED OUT. IN REGARDS TO THE CAPITAL, WE ARE ELIMINATING ANY PURCHASE OF NEW EQUIPMENT.

I KNOW IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, TODAY WE ARE GOING TO PICK UP THE - -. ON THAT, WE ZEROED OUT THAT BUDGET.

WE ALSO ZEROED OUT OVER TIME IN OUR BUDGET SO THERE WILL BE ANY OVERTIME FOR STAFF. THAT IS WHERE WE RECOMMENDED.

WE DO GET A LOT OF CALL FROM THE CONSTITUENTS FOR ROAD REPAIRS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMETIMES WE REACT SAME DAY BASED ON WHATEVER RETURNS WE HAVE THE POSSIBLY WE MIGHT NOT REACT BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE THE MATERIAL. THOSE SERVICES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BESLOW DOWN . I KNOW WE KEEP UP WITH THE ROADS REALLY WELL WITHIN OUR COUNTY, WE MAINTAIN OUR RODES.

THE CUTTING SOME OF HIS MATERIALS AND WE WILL HAVE SOME DEAL WHERE IT'S A DOMINO AFFECT BECAUSE WE WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE NEXT YEAR. THAT WILL BE PUSHED BACK NEXT YEAR OR THE FOLLOWING YEAR.IN REGARDS TO BUILDING, OUR BUDGET CUT IS ABOUT CLOSE TO 400,000. A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO TO PERFORMANCE CONTRACTS WE ARE ELIMINATING THAT WE WILL RECOMMEND ELIMINATING AS PARTOF THE BUDGET .

I WANT TO MAKE SURE ALSO ON THAT, I KNOW WE GET A LOT OF WORK ORDERS FROM SOME OF THESE APARTMENTS AND SOME OF THOSE WORK ORDERS WILL HAVE TO AGAIN BE SELECTED ON WHAT IS PRIORIT . THAT GOES BACK TO PAINTING AND FLOORING. PAINTING AND FLOORING WILL HAVE TO GET PUSHBACK BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET CUTS.

I KNOW WE PLAN ON BUDGETING FOR NEXT YEAR WITH THE DA OFFICE AND COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS IN REALLY BAD SHAPE.

WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT FOR THIS COMING YEAR TO REPLACE THOSE CARPETS AND FLOORING. THEY DO NEED TO BE IMPROVED.

BASED ON THE BUDGET CUTS, WE WILL HAVE TO PUSH THOSE BACK TO

THE FOLLOWING YEAR. >> IF IT'S IN THE PRECINCT, YOU

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KNOW ABOUT THE MONEY I WILL TAKE CARE OF IT.

THAT'S NORMALLY WHAT HAPPENED TO MY PRECINCT.

IF NOT, WE WILL WORK TOGETHER WITH IT.

IT'S IN MY PRECINCT, I KNOW THAT I CAN HELP, I WANT TO HELP. I DON'T MIND PAYING FOR PAINTING OR THE FLOORS IF IT'S WITHIN MY PRECINCT.

I KNOW YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET TO IT TWO OR THREE WEEKS DOWN THE ROAD, I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO, LET ME KNOW. I WOULD BE GLAD TO WORK WITH

YOU ON THAT. >> JUST TO GIVE YOU HOW MUCH WORK ORDERS WE GET PER YEAR, ON THE BUILDING WE GET 4500 WORKORDERS PER YEAR. THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF HOW MANY WORKORDERS WE ARE DOING ON A REGULAR BASIS.THAT KEEPS OUR STAFF BUSY WHEN WE ARE FIXING STUFF AT THE BUILDING OR WHEN WE ARE FIXING STUFF OUT ON THE ROAD.

ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT WE DID AS A PART OF HER BUDGET, WE DID CUT OUT OUR RETURN FOR OVERTIME.

WE HAVE ZEROED OUT MOST OF OUR OVERTIME.

I KNOW SOMETIMES WE HAVE SUPPER COMES AT 7:00 TONIGHT OR IN THE MORNING OR ON A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY.

THOSE ARE THE TIMES WERE TO COMPENSATE THE STAFF TO PAY THEM OVER TIME. DUE TO THESE BUDGET CUTS, THAT

IS ONE THING WE ARE LOOKING AT. >> YOU ARE EXPECTING, THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN'T CUT. IF YOU THINK OUR PEOPLE IN A 7:00 TO TAKE CARE OF ANISSUE, WE HAVE TO PAY PEOPLE .

>> YES, MA'AM. >> THAT IS NOT SOMETHING.

>> WHAT HE IS SAYING IS SOME OF IT CAN WAIT UNTIL MONDAY.

>> RIGHT, SOME OF IT CAN WAIT UNTIL MONDAY.

>> BUT WE ALSO WANT TO PAY PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE TO CALL IN?

>> YES, MA'AM. I'M SORRY.

THOSE ARE THE CUTS THAT WE HAVE FROM 1.3 IN ROAD AND BRIDGE, 400,000 IN THE BUILDING. HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE TO CUT.

THE MATERIALS HAVE INCREASED MUSCLE ROAD AND BRIDGE WE WILL PROBABLY END UP DOING LESS THAN WHAT WE WERE DOING BEFORE.

>> I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU ALL DO.

YOU GUYS DO A GREAT JOB MAINTAINING OUR COUNTY ROADS.

I'VE TOLD YOU WHENEVER I HAVE A PROBLEM, CONSTITUENTS CALL ME TOMMY THEY ARE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE DRAINAGE AND YOU GUYS ARE VERY GOOD ABOUT RESPONDING AND TAKING CARE OF IT.

LET'S HOPE THINGS DON'T GET OUT OF HAND.

I KNOW IF WE WILL FIX THE ROADS HOME YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO, WE WILL LOOK LIKE THE CITY OF POTHOLES EVERYWHERE AND WILL BE PLAYING CATCH-UP TRY TO COVER THOSE THINGS.WE NEED TO SET

OUR PRIORITIES ALSO. >> YES, SIR. IT WILL BE A DOMINOEFFECT, THEY WILL BE PUSHING BACK THOSE ROADS AND POTHOLES . WE WILL BE GETTING SOME MORE CALLS. THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A RECESS OR

WRAP UP? >> WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO

ACCOMPLISH STILL TODAY? >> JUDGE: I AM FINE IF YOU WANT TO TAKE EVERYTHING OUT AND REVIEW IT OURSELVES BUT I NEED TO TAKE A RECESS IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE HAD WITH THEY WANT TO SAY TO US SO WE COULD HEAR THEM.

>> JUDGE: COMMITTED A FIVE MINUTE RECESS AND BE RIGHT

BACK? >> DON'T HAVE VEHICLES SITTING

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IN THE LOT SOMEWHERE TOO? >> ONE.

>> WE ALSO HAVE $1000 FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICE EXPENSES AND BECAUSE THAT COMPLETELY. THE ONLY THING WE DID NOT DID LEAVE HIM THERE WAS A TRAVEL EXPENSE.

IF A BUDGET OF $2000. I REMOVED $1500 FROM THAT AND LET 500 BECAUSE I HAVE TO BE ACCREDITED BY THE VA AND WE HAVE TO TRAVEL FOR THE TRAINING ONCE A YEAR.

THAT IS THE ONLY THING ELSE ON THERE SO WE CAN CONTINUE AND WE NEED TO. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR IS THE CAR ALLOWANCE.

LET'S KEEP IN MIND WE OPERATE AND MANAGE THE CEMETERY.

I GO OUT THERE THREE TIMES A WEEK AT LEAST TO INSPECT.

THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES BEHIND THE CONTRACTS.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT.

WE ALSO DO LARGE-SCALE EVENTS. MEMORIAL DAY AT THE CEMETERY, THE FIELD OF HONOR FLIGHT FOR FLAG.

IN REGARDS TO THE CEMETERY, THIS IS SOMETHING FRESH OFF THE PRESS. IN LIGHT OF THE STORM COMING IN TOMORROW, WE WILL BE CLOSING THE CEMETERY TOMORROW.

JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE HEAD'S UP. THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

>> ,THREE SPENDING AT THE FOOD PANTRY?>> IS ROUGHLY $3000 A MONTH. COMMISSIONER MAREZ REACH OUT TO ME YESTERDAY AND I DID TALK TO THEM.

WE HAVE SOME MOVEMENT THERE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THAT UP. I THINK WE'VE GOT MOVEMENT THERE. WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING IS PROVIDING FOOD FOR ALMOST A LONGTIME VETERAN SO WE HAVE MOVEMENT ON THAT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR VETERAN

SERVICES? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> SCOTT CROSS HAS REQUESTED TO SPEAK NEXT.

>> I WAS THERE TO SEE IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS AFTER REVIEWING WHAT I HAD SUBMITTED. I THINK WE DID A GOOD JOB OF GETTING YOU ALL WHERE YOU NEEDED.

I WANTED TO REITERATE OUR REVENUE WILL INCREASE SUBSTANTIALLY NEXT YEAR WITH SOME OF THE STUFF WE HAVE GOING ON. BY THE TIME YOU DID AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER I'M PROJECTING 1.3 MILLION IN REVENUE.ET REVENUE ALL GOES TO OFFSET NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET SO I REDUCE MY DEPENDENCY IN THE GENERAL FUND. THAT IS THE WAY IT IS ALWAYS BEEN. HE WORKED REALLY HARD TO INCREASETHAT AMOUNT . THAT IS BETWEEN HURRICANE HARVEY AND HURRICANE - - NOT A SETBACK.

COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, I DID GET YOUR MESSAGE AND WILLGET SOME ESTIMATES . JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNO

. >> IS A ONE-TIME SUPPLEMENTAL AND BE SUBSTITUTED WITH THIS, JUST TO QUALIFY SCOTT.

IT'S SOMETHING THATHAS TO BE DONE ANYWAY SO YOU CAN TAKE A

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LOOK AT ITAND CALL ME LATER . > OKAY, SOUNDS GOOD.

I WANTED TO REITERATE THAT WE WILL BE FINE AND WE WILL MAKE

IT WORK .HANK YOU. >> WE DID SEMINAR BUDGET OF 10% CUT AND I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE, THEY HAVE BEEN HELPFUL THIS PAST WEEK AND GETTING THE STUFF EXPEDITED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ARE STILL WORKING OUT SOME DETAILS WITH DALE. FOR INSTANCE, I WOULD RECEIVE A COUPLE PEOPLE MIGHT RETIRE OR NOT.

THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IF I GET THE WORD BY TOMORROW.

HE WILL GET HIM, IT WILL BE BELOW 670,000 OF THE MORE PROPOSED. IN ADDITION TO THAT, I WANT TO GIVE YOU AS AN FYI, ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS WEDNESDAY, THERE WILL BE A REQUEST FOR A RAISE FOR CERTAIN ELIGIBLE CANDIDATES FOR THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT.

THIS IS A LEGISLATIVELY FUNDED INITIATIVE.

WE WORKED HARD THE LAST SEVERAL SESSIONS TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE AT RIGHT NOW. BY WAY OF ADDITIONAL STATE AID WHICH IS HELPED IN THIS EXERCISE AND SPECIFICALLY MONEY SET ASIDE FOR SALARY INCREASES. IT'S 5% THIS YEAR AND A 5% NEXT YEAR.THEY ALSO INCLUDED MONEY FOR FRINGE BENEFITS.

THIS IS SOLELY STATE-FUNDED BUT FOR THE SAKE OF TRANSPARENCY AND WANT TO GIVE YOU THE HEAD'S UP THAT THIS WILL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR WEDNESDAY TO DISCUS .

>> AND THE LEGISLATION, IT WAS NOT JUST LIMITED TO ANY TIMEFRAME OR ANYTHING? IT'S FUNDED EVERY YEAR?

>> YES. IT STARTS THIS YEAR AND ANOTHER 5% NEXT YEAR. THEN IT WILL BE CONTINUOUS

FUNDING. >> NO COST OF THE COUNTY BE CLEAR. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ABOU ? I KNOW EITHER WAS HERE LAST

WEEK AND SPOKE AS WELL. >> JUST WANT TO REITERATE SHE DID SUBMITTED BY THE CHANGE ORDER.

OUR STATISTICS ARE ALL AVAILABLE BECAUSE I SENT IT TO YOU ALL IN APRIL. WE WILL COME BACK FOR ANNUAL STATISTICS BUT THE LAW LIBRARY ALSO HELPS CLIENTS AS WELL SO ABOUT 3000 AN ATTORNEY VISITS AS WELL.

>> IT IS THE WESTLAW UP THERE TOO BUT I WAS NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SUBSCRIPTION IS FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY NOT INDIVIDUAL

DEPARTMENTS. >> HOURS INDIVIDUALS WOULD HAVE

TO BE SEPARATE. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. YOU WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT HR?

>> I WANT TO MAKE THE COURT AWARE THAT HR HAS ALSO MADE BUDGET CUTS IN CONSIDERATION OF THE ANTICIPATED BUDGET DEFICIT.

OUR TOTAL COST INCLUDE A SCALED-BACK OF OUR INITIAL REQUEST OF $110,000 INCREASE FROM OUR BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2324 AND AN ADDITIONAL CUTBACK OF $145,000.

THAT INCLUDES THE REDUCTION OF A POSITION THAT IS NOT FILLED.

I DON'T PLAN TO FILL THE POSITION.

>> YOU ARE DELETING DEPOSITION? >> I WILL BE DELETING DEPOSITION THAT POSITION. MY REQUEST IS TO PROMOTE ONE OF MY STAFF MEMBERS IN ANTICIPATION OF DELETING DEPOSITION TO REORGANIZE MY CURRENT STAFF TO COMPLETE THE DUTIES THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

EVEN WITH THE PROMOTION, WE WOULD STILL REALIZE A $25,000 REDUCTION IN TERMS OF OUR OPERATING EXPENSES.

THERE ARE ACTUAL REDUCTION RECOMMENDATION TO BE ABOUT $255,000. I WANTED TO MAKE THE COURT

AWARE OF THAT. >> VERY GOOD.

>> JUDGE: ANYBODY ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING

ANY ADJOURNMENTS? >> I UNDERSTAND THIS IS HARD

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FOR US AS IT IS FOR EVERYBODY. I WANT TO POINT OUT AGAIN ABOUT THE TAX RATES. IF WE HAD A TAX INCREASE, WE

WILL BE ON THE POSITIVE SIDE. >> WITH THE CUTS.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. WE ALREADY ENTER THAT, SOMETHING IMPORTANT. THE COURT WILL HAVE A LOT OF HOMEWORK TO DO BETWEEN TODAY AND TOMORROW.

WEDNESDAY WILL HAVE A MEETING AND TALK ABOUT IT JUST TO PUT IT OUT THERE. IT IS STILL ON THE POSITIVE

SIDE FOR EVERYBODY. >> ON WEDNESDAY, WE WILL PROVIDE YOU WHAT THE RATES ARE. HIS IS THE ONLY PROPOSAL.

ANYTHING ABOVE THE 90 REVENUE TAX REQUIRES PUBLIC HEARINGS AND NOTICES. WE WILL BE PROVIDING YOU THE PROPOSED RATE FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL AS THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

THE GENERAL FUNNEL - - CONSIDERATION.

THIS IS A RECORD VOTE. THIS IS WHERE WE START OUR DISCUSSION AND ON SEPTEMBER 7 HE WILL ACTUALLY DECIDE WHAT

THE RATE IS TO BE ADOPTED. >> IS JUST ACEILING, NOVEL ON THE RATE . SEPTEMBER 7 WAS WHAT DID YOU

SAY? >> THAT IS WHERE YOU WILL

CHOOSE TO ADOPT THE RATE. >> AND SEPTEMBER 13 TO THE

FINAL BUDGET? >> WHATEVER 13 TO DATE, THAT IS THE DAY YOU WILL DO THE RIGHT AS WELL.

13TH. >> I MISSPOKE ONTHE SEVENTH .

>> THAT'S OKAY. >> JUDGE: JUST TO REITERATE, OUR PRIOR RATE IS .291659. THE 90 REVENUE TAX RATE THIS YEAR WOULD BE .240253 AND IF WE DID THAT 3.5% INCREASE, THE VOTER APPROVED TAX RATEWOULD BE .252755.

STILL WELL BELOW THE.291. >> IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, DON'T HESITATE TO ASK US ANY OF THIS.

WE WILL BE GLAD TO DISCUSS ANY MATTERS ADDITIONAL CUTS THAT WE NEED TO OR ADDITIONAL VALUATIONS.

IF YOU WANT SOME CUT A REDUCTION, PLEASE LET US KNOW AND WE WILL MAKE SURE WE GET THOSE IN CONSIDERATION BEFORE WE DO THE FINAL PROPOSAL FOR YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY GERMS IN MEMORY SO I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION TO ADJOURN. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.