[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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>> JUDGE: I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER IT IS 9:10.
COMMISSIONER CHESNEY WILL LEAD US WITH THE INVOCATION AND WE WILL DO OUR PLEDGES. ALL RISE, PLEASE.
>> COMMISSIONER: THANK YOU LET US PRAY DEAR LORD WE COME TO YOU TODAY AND WE ARE SO THANKFUL THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US AND WE ASK YOU YOU WILL CONTINUE TO GIVE US THE PEACE OF MIND KNOWING THAT WE ARE DOING ALL WE CAN TO HELP NUECES COUNTY. WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE US WITH YOUR HAND AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SON, JESUS CHRIST FOR DYING ON THE CROSS AND WE ASK YOU TO BLESS ALL OF US IN NUECES COUNTY, ALL THE CITIZENS AND ALL OF US IN GOVERNMENT EVERYWHERE AND CONTINUE TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE RIGHT REASONS. WE THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL YOU'VE GIVEN US AND ALL THE BLESSINGS. WE ASK FOR THIS IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE, TEXAS. ONE STATE, UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE.
>> JUDGE: IT IS 9:11 AND WE ARE AT 9:01 IN THE NUECES COUNTY COURTROOM AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF COMMISSIONERS PRESENT. ACTUALLY, COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ IS NOT HERE, HE JUST STEPPED OUTSIDE BUT HE WAS HERE A MINUTE AGO.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? IT IS ON MY LIST.
[3. BUDGET WORKSHOP: The Court will discuss matters related to the 2023-2024 Budget.]
>> THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE WILL MOVE INTO ITEM NUMBER 3 OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP AND I WILL TURN
IT OVER TO YOU, DALE. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP. WE OVER THE WEEKEND HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH THIS. THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THERE. WE HAD A FEW MISTAKES AND THINGS ARE CHANGING EVERY TIME WE HAVE A BALANCE. TRY TO GO THROUGH THROUGH THIS AND TELL YOU WHERE WE WILL BE AT AND WHAT WERE TRYING TO DO. I KNOW WE HAD A LITTLE DISCUSSION WEDNESDAY AND I WANT TO RESOLVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE AT THIS TIME. WE HAVE A BUNCH OF REQUESTS COMING IN AND WE ALREADY GONE THROUGH SOME OF THE REQUESTS AND MODIFICATIONS.
WE HAVE SEVERAL REQUESTS FOR CLASSIFICATIONS AND NEW POSITIONS. I'M NOT RECOMMENDING ANY AT THE MOMENT.
IT WILL BE SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS WITH A LIST OF INFORMATION OF THINGS TO DISCUSS. WE WANT TO INCLUDE OUR TAKE AWAY. AS WE KNOW WE HAVE TWO OF OUR LARGEST TAXPAYER TAXPAYERS. WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDED BY THE TAX OFFICE WHAT THEY PLAN TO PAY WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW THE AMOUNT OF THE EVALUATION AND WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT BALANCE SHORTAGE THAT WE WILL HAVE TO DISCUSS VERY SOON. LEFT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE COURT WANTS THE DEPARTMENTS TO DO, WHAT THE COURT WANTS MYSELF TO DO THROUGH THE BUDGET OFFICE AND WE WILL SEE HOW WE WANT TO GO. AS YOU REMEMBER, LISA PROVIDED YOU ALL WITH THE BALANCES OF OUR TAX RATES AND THAT DID NOT
CHANGE. >> IT DID NOT CHANGE THAT'S
CORRECT. >> SHE PROBABLY PROVIDED YOU BUDGET ESTIMATES AND THOSE ARE ON K-1 OF YOUR BOOK. IF YOU GO THERE WILL TRY TO GET YOU A DIFFERENT SCHEDULE TO MAKE IT
EASIER TO UNDERSTAND. >> COMMISSIONER: YOU SAID IT DOESN'T CHANGE WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THE TAX RATE ITSELF HAS NOT CHANGED.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THE BUDGET WILL CHANGE AS THINGS ARE ADDED AND SUBTRACTED FROM THE BUDGET. THAT WILL CHANGE UNTIL WE
ADOPT. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THE VOTER APPROVED TAX RATES HAVE NOT CHANGED. WE ADDED SMALL
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ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE TAXPAYERS AS WELL AS A FEW ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE TIF AND OTHER ISSUES ON PADRE ISLAND BUT THEY DID NOT MAKE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT SO THERE'S NO CHANGES FOR THE REVENUE TAX RATE OR THE VOTER RATE WAS DID NOT CHANGE. I KNOW WE PROVIDED YOU WITH AJIT ESTIMATES AND SOME OF YOU WERE ALL LOOKING AT A $20 MILLION LOSS IN BUDGET WHICH IS DIRECTLY WHAT WE HAVE SUBMITTED SO FAR. I CAN GIVE YOU ANOTHER SCHEDULE ON K-1 EVENING YOU INFORMATION ON WHAT IT MEANS.IF TWO COLUMNS ONE SAYS BUDGETED AND THE OTHER SAYS
ESTIMATED RECEIVED AND SENT. >> COMMISSIONER: ARE YOU ON
K-1? >> GUEST SPEAKER: THE VERY TOP IS THE PROPOSED BUDGET IT'S NOT PROPOSED YET BUT IT'S THE BUDGET YOU'RE WORKING ON NOW. THE MIDDLE ONE IS LAST YEAR'S BUDGET WERE DOING ESTIMATES IN THE BOTTOM ONE IS WHAT WE DID LAST FISCAL YEAR WITH THE BALANCES.
>> COMMISSIONER: K-1 ON THE BACK PAGE: WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING
AT? >> GUEST SPEAKER: THERE IS TAB
K AND PAGE K-1. >> GUEST SPEAKER: WE ARE ON
K-1. >> COMMISSIONER: MIND SAYS NO
REVENUE TAX RATE K-1. >> GUEST SPEAKER: NO, NO, THE VERY FIRST PAGE. K-1 THE VERY TOP PAGE YOU WILL SEE WHERE WE HAVE OUR FISCAL YEAR WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON IN THE MIDDLE OF IT IS THE CURRENT BUDGET WERE WORKING ON WHICH IS NOW 2023 AND THE VERY BOTTOM IS LAST YEAR'S ACTUAL BUDGET WHERE WE HAD APPROVED AS WELL AS SPENT.
>> COMMISSIONER: OKAY 2324 YOU ARE PROJECTING REVENUE COLLECTIONS OF A TOTAL OF 110 MILLION AND THIS ONE IS THIS WITH OR WITHOUT THE NEW TAX RATE?
>> COMMISSIONER: THIS PROJECTS A $21 MILLION DEFICIT?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: CORRECT FOR THE BUDGET. THAT IS CORRECT.
>> COMMISSIONER: AND THEN WHERE IS THE SAME THING FOR THE VOTER
APPROVED TAX? >> GUEST SPEAKER: I DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO GET THAT. I CAN DO THAT REALLY QUICKLY. I WANTED TO GO TO THE NO NEW REVENUE FIRST . THAT WAS THE LARGEST $21 MILLION BALANCE THAT WE HAD BECAUSE WE WILL GO TO THE VOTER APPROVED RATE IT GOES TO 15 MILLION FOR THE DIFFERENCE. IT DEFINITELY WILL WORK UP PRETTY QUICKLY. IF YOU
WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT. >> COMMISSIONER: THAT'S WHAT I SAW OVER HERE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I READ THAT RIGHT, VOTER APPROVED TAX RATE PAID THAT IS WHERE I SEE THAT.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THAT'S K4. WE WILL GO THROUGH THE SAME ROW. PARDON ME. BASICALLY IT IS THE WHOLE ROW COLUMN THAT I BASICALLY AM TRYING TO MAKE IT IN A SIMPLER VIEW BECAUSE IT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY TO READ ACROSS AS IT IS UP AND DOWN. I CAN DO THIS QUICKLY. IF WE DO THE VOTER APPROVED TAX RATE JUST FOR BUDGET NOT ANYTHING ELSE IT IS 15 MILLION+.
>> COMMISSIONER: ARE YOU SAYING IT MAY NOT BE EXACT BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE MATH DOESN'T WORK OUT FOR ME BUT ARE YOU SAYING - SO, IF YOU GO UP 3.5 PERCENT YOU ARE TELLING ME IT IS AN ADDITIONAL 6 MILLION IN REVENUE?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: NO. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BALANCE THE NUMBER OF COLLECTIONS AND YOUR BALANCES FOR BUDGET FOR YOUR EXPENSES. THEY ARE A LITTLE HIGHER. YOU ARE RIGHT THE REVENUE IS HIGHER AND THE BALANCE IS GOING UP FOR THE
TAXES, YES. >> COMMISSIONER: THE TOTAL REVENUE ON THE VOTER APPROVED 3.5 PERCENT IS 116 AND THE TOTAL IS 110. YOU ARE SAYING THAT IS A $6 MILLION
DIFFERENCE? >> GUEST SPEAKER: AROUND THAT IF YOU LOOK AT K-3 AND YOU LOOK AT K5 AND BUDGET REVENUE FOR EVERYTHING IS 10 8 MILLION+ IF WE DO THE VOTER APPROVED IT IS AT 113 MILLION+ IT IS RIGHT AT 5 A HALF TO 6 MILLION.
>> COMMISSIONER: ALL RIGHT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE NO NEW TAX RATE AND VOTER APPROVED 3.5 PERCENT IS A $6 MILLION TAX
INCREASE TO THE VOTERS? >> GUEST SPEAKER: THAT'S
CORRECT. >> COMMISSIONER: I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS SUPER CLEAR ON THAT. IF WE STAY AT THE NO NEW TAX RATE IT IS A $21 MILLION DEFICIT. THAT MEANS NO TAX INCREASE. IF WE GO TO 3.5 OR SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN, THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN AS YOU DID FOR THE DAY IT IS A $6
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MILLION INCREASE IN TAXES BETWEEN NO NEW TAX RATE AND IT STILL SHOWS $15 MILLION DEFICIT EVEN IF WE GO ALL THE WAY TO 3.5 PERCENT. SO THE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED SINCE AUGUST 9 WHICH IS FINE. LISA SAID THAT SIX TIMES WHEN SHE WAS HERE AT LEAST. SO NOW THE DEFICIT IS REJECTED AT 15 MILLION TO 21MILLION? >> GUEST SPEAKER: YES.
>> COMMISSIONER: OKAY. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THAT'S CORRECT AND AGAIN THESE ARE BUDGET NUMBERS.
>> COMMISSIONER: YOUR OVEN ADDED ANYTHING? EXCEPT YOU DID . I DID NOTE THAT THIS INCLUDES LAW ENFORCEMENT RETENTION PAY. THAT IS THE PAY THAT IS THAT COLLECTED BARGAINING ARPA STUFF THAT WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
PUT IN? >> GUEST SPEAKER: WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE - THE DISCUSSION IS WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE NEXT MEETING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT IS AFTER THE BUDGET IS APPROVED. WE NEED TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE IS GOING TO BE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE COUNTY. WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THE
BOOKS SAYING THIS. >> COMMISSIONER: IT IS GOOD BUDGETING IT MAKES SENSE. BUT I THINK THIS IS A HIGHER NUMBER THAN WE HAD LAST WEEK. I REMEMBER THE THREE SOMETHING BUT MAYBE I DIDN'T SKIP DOWN TO THAT COLUMN. NEVERTHELESS YOU HAVE THAT IN HERE AND THAT IS ASSUMING THAT ALL OF THESE CHANGE TO THE EXPENSE THAT WE VOTE TO APPROVE, RIGHT?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THAT IS CORRECT.
>> COMMISSIONER: SO, IF THIS ALL HAPPENS AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER REQUESTS YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE ON THIS LIST.
EVERYTHING THAT WE ADD BACK AS A COURT ONLY INCREASES THE DEFICIT. IF WE ADD ANYTHING ELSE WE ARE ALREADY AT $15 MILLION IN THE HOLE AND IF YOU SAY WERE NOT DOING THESE THINGS ON THE LIST AND SOME OF THEM WE HAVE TO PROBABLY BUT FOR NOT DOING ALL OF THESE THINGS OUR DEFICIT WOULD GO DOWN EVEN
LESS? >> GUEST SPEAKER: ALSO YOU REALLY QUICK. FOR EXAMPLE THE FIRST SIX ENTRIES ARE REQUIRED.
WE DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE. THOSE ARE REQUIRED.
>> COMMISSIONER: UNLESS WE CHANGE THE POLICY AND THE COURT
CAN CHANGE THE POLICY. >> GUEST SPEAKER: YOU CAN BUT IT'S A POLICY THAT TAKES A LOT OF ACTION AND TIME. YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH REGULAR AND CIVIL SERVICE. I'M SAYING IT CAN BE
DONE. >> GUEST SPEAKER: UNDER THAT.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: IF I REMOVE EVERYTHING BELOW THAT I CAN DO THAT REALLY QUICK. YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE IT BUT I CAN TELL YOU REALLY QUICKLY. AND I'VE GONE NO NEW REVENUE IF I
REMOVE THOSE ITEMS 18 MILLION. >> GUEST SPEAKER: ON THE NO NEW REVENUE. AT 21 IT GOES DOWN TO 18.
>> COMMISSIONER: IS THE LOSS AT THE REFINERY?
>> COMMISSIONER: YES IT'S THAT 5 MILLION.
>> COMMISSIONER: ARE WE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT 5 MILLION?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: FOR THE REFINERIES WE DON'T EXPECT TO COLLECT THE TOTAL AMOUNT LEVY OF 10 MILLION, WE ONLY EXPECT TO COLLECT 5 MILLION. IT IS NOT SHOWN ANYWHERE IN HERE.
>> COMMISSIONER: IT IS ON HERE THAT'S WHAT I READ IT AS.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: I TOOK THAT OUT THE NEW ONE. IT SHOULD
HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT. >> COMMISSIONER: WHAT PAGE ARE
WE LOOKING AT? >> COMMISSIONER: WHAT IS THE
5,000,068? >> COMMISSIONER: TOTAL OF THAT
COLUMN. >> COMMISSIONER: SO THAT IS NOT THE REFINERY NUMBER? SO THAT IS GOING TO BE - SO, HOW COME
WE DON'T PUT THAT IN THERE? >> GUEST SPEAKER: WE WERE FIGURING OUT HOW TO FACTOR THAT BUT ONCE AGAIN IT WILL RAISE THE BUDGET LEVEL. IN DOING THAT, GOING BACK AGAIN IF WE PUT IT IN THE BUDGET WE DON'T EXPECT TO SPEND IT. I CAN TELL YOU I'M GOING TO SPEND 85 PERCENT OF THE BUDGET AND THE 5 MILLION IS IN THERE AND I HAVE TO GO BACK TO 82. WE DON'T EXPECT TO SPEND THE 5 MILLION AND WE DON'T EXPECT TO COLLECT
IT. >> COMMISSIONER: LET'S FORGET THAT FOR A MINUTE. IF WE WERE TO PUT THE 5 MILLION BACK IN IT MAKES THE DEFICIT EVEN HIGHER. AND I GET THE WHOLE THING ABOUT KEVIN HAS SAID COME IN AND DON'T PUT IT IN TWICE BECAUSE WE GET DOUBLE HIT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT ARGUMENT.
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NEW REVENUE RATE THE ESTIMATED AND COLLECT AND IS 4,000,791981. >> COMMISSIONER: 4 MILLION WHAT
? >> GUEST SPEAKER: THAT IS ON P6 AND P7 HAS ESTIMATED AND COLLECTED WITH THE VOTER
APPROVED RATE AT 5,090,000. >> COMMISSIONER: IF WE PUT THAT IN FOR THE BALANCE OF THE BUDGET LEVEL IT WILL NOW BE A
DEFICIT OF 25 MILLION+. >> GUEST SPEAKER: WE WILL DO OUR ESTIMATED COLLECTION. IT IS STILL 8 MILLION.
>> COMMISSIONER: WE ARE STILL AT 25 MILLION.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES FOR BUDGET. THAT IS ONLY BUDGETED.
>> COMMISSIONER: WHEN YOU SAY FOR BUDGET?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THE ONLY REASON I AM SAYING THAT, THE BUDGET ASSUMES YOU ARE COLLECTING 100 PERCENT OF YOUR REVENUE AND SPEND 100 PERCENT OF YOUR BUDGET. IF YOU DO 100 PERCENT YOU WILL LOSE 25 MILLION YOU NEVER SPEND 100 PERCENT OF OUR EXPENSES. WE COLLECTED ONE OF PERCENT OF THE REVENUE BUT OUR AVERAGE HAS BEEN ANYWHERE FROM 87 TO 93 PERCENT. WE ASSUME 83 PERCENT OF OUR EXPENSES IS WHERE WE GET THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BUDGET TO WHAT WE CONSIDER.
>> COMMISSIONER: WHAT DOES OUR ACTUAL DEFICIT LOOK LIKE?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: IF I'M ASSUMING 100 PERCENT COLLECTION AND WERE AT 85 PERCENT I AM AT $8 MILLION SHORT.
>> COMMISSIONER: THAT IS ACTUAL BUDGETED?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES. 8 TO 13 VERSUS 15 TO 20. YES.
>> COMMISSIONER: ARE YOU AT 860? ROAD AROUND $8 MILLION SHORT. I DON'T BELIEVE YOU HAVE THIS IN YOUR FILE. WE ARE WORKING ON IT AND I HAVE CHANGED SOME NUMBERS ON IT BUT 85 PERCENT COLLECTION AND 100 PERCENT COLLECTION ON REVENUE
WE WILL ASSUME 100 PERCENT. >> COMMISSIONER: SO- GOOD FOR US FOR NOT SPENDING AS MUCH BUT SOMETHING COULD HAPPEN WHERE HE ACTUALLY DID SPEND MORE WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE TRUTH.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: AS WE KNOW WE ALWAYS HAVE VACANCIES AND THAT'S WHERE MOST OF OUR CITIES COME IS IN VACANCIES.
>> COMMISSIONER: IF WE ELIMINATE THOSE VACANCIES I WILL SET SOME OF THOSE CUT WE WANT TO MAKE BECAUSE WE WANT TO
CUT VACANCIES. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THAT IS TRUE BUT THE QUESTION IS DO WE ALWAYS HAVE THESE VACANCIES IN MULTIPLE YEARS? NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR LOWERING THE BUDGET. YOU CAN DO THAT BUT WE NEED - IF SOMETHING HAS SOMETHING IN THEM, IT IS WHERE THE TRUE BALANCE IS. FOR EXAMPLE THE SHERIFF HAS 87 VACANCIES AND IF WE CUT DOWN TO 40 WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING. YOU CAN ONLY AVERAGE 40. IT STILL IN THE BUDGET BUT IT DOES NOT AFFECT THIS.
>> COMMISSIONER: I GET IT IT IS GOING TO KNOCK DOWN THE BUDGET BUT IT WOULD NOT KNOCK DOWN OUR ACTUAL? IF YOU KNOCKED ON THE BUDGET THEN YOU KNOCK DOWN THE ACTUAL NOT DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR BET YOU WILL TAKE YOUR PERCENTAGE.
>> COMMISSIONER: YOU CAN TAKE THE BUDGET ALL DAY IF NOBODY CHANGES THE MONEY ACTUALLY SPENT. IF I GO AND I HAVE ALWAYS GONE TO JOE'S CONSTRUCTION TO GET THIS PART AND IT COSTS X NUMBER OF DOLLARSAND I KEEP GOING TO JOE'S CONSTRUCTION TO GET THIS AND IT COSTS X NUMBER OF DOLLARSAND EVEN THOUGH YOU BUDGETED YOU WILL PAY LESS FOR IT AND KEEP PAYING THE SAME. YOU HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR ACTUAL
SPENDING. >> COMMISSIONER: THIS NOT A GOOD EXAMPLE IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE POSITION POSITION IS GONE.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: RIGHT NOW THE SHERIFF IS AN EASY ONE TO PICK ON BECAUSE HE HAS A LARGE NUMBER HE HAS JONAH 51 EMPLOYEES AND THE JAIL. OF THAT THERE'S 87 VACANCIES ON AN AVERAGE YEAR NOT COUNTING ANYTHING WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WE ONLY HAVE ANYWHERE FROM 35 TO 45. IF WE REDUCE THEIR STAFF BY 40 AND WE ARE STILL WITHIN THIS PERIOD OF THIS WE
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REALLY HAVEN'T AFFECTED ANYTHING. WE SAW THE VACANCIESAND HE STILL HAS OVERTIME. >> GUEST SPEAKER: YOU ARE TAKING AWAY HIS SALARY SAVINGS THAT'S ALL HE'S DONE AND WE CAN'T COVER THE OVERTIME WITH THAT. IT'S ESSENTIALLY ALL YOU HAVE DONE. IS TAKEN AWAY WHAT WE CALL SALARY SAVINGS.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THE ACTUAL BUDGETED EXPENSES WILL
INCREASE. >> COMMISSIONER: WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT. BY LAW WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE $15-$20 MILLION DEFICIT FOR BUDGET PURPOSES BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PUT FORTH WHAT WE KNOW IS A BALANCED BUDGET. WE HAVE TO HOPE THAT THE ACTUAL COMES IN WAY BETTER THAN IT TRADITIONALLY HAS BUT WE CAN'T BUDGET THAT WAY WE HAVE TO BUDGET AS IF IT'S A $15-$20
MILLION DEFICIT. >> COMMISSIONER: OR USE THE
RESERVE? >> COMMISSIONER: WE CANNOT BUDGET ACTUALS. WHY ARE WE DOING A BUDGET? JUST BECAUSE WE TRADITIONALLY BUDGET LESS. WE RUN BETTER THAN BUDGET DOES NOT MEAN BY LAW YOU CAN PUT THAT FORWARD YOU CANNOT SAY TO THE WORLD AND TO THE TAXPAYERS WE ARE BUDGETING 120 MILLION BUT WE ONLY NEED 110. YOU CANNOT DO THAT.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: NO, NO. IF WE WERE AT 100 PERCENT OF EVERYTHING HERE'S WHAT THE BUDGET WOULD BE AND AT THIS TIME WERE INCLUDING THE LOSS OF REVENUE FROM REFINERIES AND
THAT WOULD BE 25 MILLION. >> COMMISSIONER: OKAY WHAT DO
YOU NEED FROM US TODAY? >> GUEST SPEAKER: TERESA GAVE YOU SOME IDEAS OF WHAT WE CAN DO AND I CAN REMOVE ANYTHING ON K2 I CAN TAKE OUT ANYTHING THAT'S NOT REQUIRED AND STILL WORK WITH THE TAX HUMAN RESOURCES AND COUNTY ATTORNEY AND MAKE SURE THIS CONTINUES SO IT CAN EITHER BE CHANGED OR WITHDRAWN OR HOWEVER WE WANT TO DO THIS.
>> COMMISSIONER: YOU HAVE TO PUT BACK IN WHATEVER THE LOSS OF THE REFINERY IS. YOU HAVE TO INSERT THAT. I PERSONALLY THINK WE SHOULD DO AWAY WITH THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN OUR BUDGET BOTH THE RA DC AND GO BACK TO THE BUDGET AMOUNT BECAUSE I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN DO ANY INCREASES ON ANYTHING THIS YEAR AND IF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE DISPOSABLE
FUNDS THEY CAN DO THAT. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THE ONLY REASON WHY WE HAD TO TALK ABOUT THIS I KNOW THE JUDGE HAS ALREADY REACHED OUT TO THE PORT AND THEY MIGHT BE WILLING TO
COVER THIS. >> COMMISSIONER: UNLESS THEY TELL US IT'S GOING TO BE COVERED FOR 10 YEARS.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: WE CAN DEFINITELY MOVE THAT. IT'S NOT
IN THE BUDGET YET. >> COMMISSIONER: AS WE AS A COURT COLLECTIVELY WE HAVE A POLICY IF WE WANT TO GO TO THE COURT AND ASK FOR BISHOP. I THINK IT SHOULD BE ROB'S TOWN, BISHOP, PORTER RANCH, ALL THOSE AREAS IF ARE GOING TO DO IT FOR EVERYBODY WE CAN COLLECTIVELY SAY PORT, HELP US WITH THAT ON A ONE-TIME BASIS. I DON'T THINK IT OUGHT TO BE IN THE
BUDGET IS ALL I'M SAYING. >> GUEST SPEAKER: RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A $50,000 BUDGET FOR THE 60 DEVELOPMENT AND 10,004 ROB'S TOWN AND MAYBE WE SUBMIT THE REQUEST TO GIVE US THAT. AND THAT WAY THERE'S NO COST TO US.
>> COMMISSIONER: IT IS KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. I DON'T MIND GOING TO THEM AS AN EXTRA BUT TO ME THAT IS NOT THE REST OF THE COURT BUT TIMMY I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH OVERTIME COST I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE TRANSPORTATION FOR INMATES IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN DO ANYTHING WITH THAT.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: WE ARE WORKING WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEY HAVE ACTUALLY REDUCED SOME OF THEIR VACANCIES YOUR DINO TIM IS WORKING WITH THEM CONSTANTLY TO GET MORE STAFF AND I KNOW THAT CHIEF COOK HAS BEEN ON THIS ALL THE TIME AND HE'S TRYING TO GO FROM HERE TO HERE AND IT IS GUARANTEED THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE -
>> GUEST SPEAKER: LET'S KEEP IN MIND WITH THIS BUDGETED AMOUNT.
THE 2 MILLION FOR THE OVERTIME COST WE HAVE TO KEEP SOMETHING IN THEIR BECAUSE IF WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD AND DO ANYTHING WE
MIGHT BE AND HIM WORSE BOND. >> GUEST SPEAKER: RIGHT NOW THE OVERTIME BUDGET IS 1.2 SHERIFF, I MIGHT BE WRONG ON THE AMOUNT.
>> COMMISSIONER: HE WANTS TO INCREASE IT BY 2 MILLION FOR
OVERTIME? >> GUEST SPEAKER: SR BECAUSE
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THE ESTIMATED OVERTIME IS 3.9 MILLION.>> COMMISSIONER: HOW MANY VACANCIES DO THEY HAVE?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: RIGHT NOW THEY ARE SHORT BECAUSE THE
OVERTIME RATE IS SO HIGH. >> COMMISSIONER: YOU KNOW WHAT TIME AFTER TIME WE COME HERE AND EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT THEY HAVE TO DO THIS AND YOU HAVE TO WORK OUT A PLAN AND THEY NEVER DO. THEY IGNORE IT ONCE THEY GET OUT OF HERE AND I THINK THEY NEED A PLAN. THEY NEED TO WORK OUT A PLAN. HOW ARE THEY
GOING TO HANDLE THAT? >> GUEST SPEAKER: THE SHERIFF HAS USED HIS DISCRETIONARY FUNDS TO ADVERTISE AND THEY ARE
GETTING SOME RESPONSE. >> COMMISSIONER: DIDN'T THIS HAPPEN THE LAST FIVE YEARS? WE BEEN GOING OVER OVERTIME AND VACATION TIME AND WE TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO THEM WE HAVE GIVEN AN EXTENSION AND IT STILL DID NOT HAPPEN.
>> COMMISSIONER: NOT ONLY THAT THIS IS ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT COMES UP. EVERY YEAR WE INCREASE, EVERY FOUR YEARS WE INCREASE THE CONTRACT LAST CONTRACT WAS THE BIGGEST INCREASE THEY HAVE GOTTEN. WE GAVE OUR VOTE MONEY ON A TWO TIME BASIS FOR TWO YEARS WE GAVE IT ON A TWO TIME BASIS AND WE PUT THAT IN AS AN INCENTIVE TO TRY TO RETAIN AND FOR SOME OF THE LOWER PAID POSITIONS. WE ADDED THAT IN HOPING THAT WOULD INCENTIVIZE AND NOTHING HAS WORKED. LOOK. IT'S NOT BECAUSE THE SHERIFF DID NOT TRY IT IS A HARD JOB TO FILL. YOU GET IN THERE AND IT'S REALLY SUPERHARD AND I GET IT. WE ALL WANT TO PAY MORE BUT EVERY TIME WE PAY MORE WE STILL GET MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN OVERTIME. THIS IS A CONUNDRUM THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH AND I'M NOT BEING CRITICAL AND STATING THE OBVIOUS THE OVERTIME IS GOING UP, UP, UP.
I'M SURE THEY ENJOY GETTING OVERTIME PAY BUT I DON'T WANT TO BURN THESE PEOPLE OUT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. AND, AGAIN, PUTTING THIS RETENTION PAY NUMBER IN HERE I KNOW YOU ARE PUTTING IT IN FOR CONSIDERATION BUT I THINK EVERYBODY IN THIS COUNTY AND THE EMPLOYEES NEED TO KNOW EVERY DOLLAR WE PUT IN TO ANYTHING WHETHER IT'S COLLECTIVE-BARGAINING OR OVERTIME OR COASTAL PARKS OR INLAND PARK ALL IT MEANS IS WE HAVE TO CUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET TO THESE HUGE NUMBERS WITHOUT TAKING SIGNIFICANT CUT IN PERSONNEL IF THOSE NUMBERS ARE
RIGHT. >> COMMISSIONER: WASN'T 1 MILLION OF THAT FOR THE FOOD INCREASE COST AND WE ONLY DID 1 MILLION IN ADDITION FOR OVERTIME.
>>> THIS WAS ALL JAIL? >> GUEST SPEAKER: THEY HAD SUGGESTED A MEAL COST, AND INCREASE FOR THE MEAL COST FOR THE JAIL AND THE FOOD. I LEFT THAT BALANCE THEIR AND BROUGHT FORWARD THE OVERTIME SO THEORETICALLY MAY BE 1 MILLION OVERTIME AND 1 MILLION FOR THE FOOD BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY WANT AND MILLION DOLLARSFOR FOOD AND RIGHT NOW IT IS STILL THERE AND WE CAN DEFINITELY REDUCE THAT AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL TRY TO REDUCE THE POPULATION OF THE JAIL REDUCE THE COST OF THAT BECAUSE IT IS DEFINITELY RELIED ON THIS AND WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT - I KNOW THIS IS THE JAIL PORTION OF IT IN THERE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS HAVE TO HAVE FOR FOOD AND NOURISHMENT IN THE JAIL BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE HAVE LOOKED AT BECAUSE THE COST IS EXTREME.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: EVERYONE KNOWS IF YOU GO TO THE GROCERY
STORE THE COST IS GONNA. >> GUEST SPEAKER: AND THE RETENTION ALSO REQUESTS AN INCREASE.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: I KNEW THIS WASN'T JUST OVERTIME.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: AND NOT FOR FOOD YOU CAN.
>> COMMISSIONER: THERE ARE STIPULATIONS ON HOW YOU CAN SPEND THE INMATE BENEFIT FUNDS AND I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK. IT IS EITHER THE INMATE AND IF IT WERE CHAPTER 59 FUNDS WHERE STATUTORILY YOU CANNOT REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING YOU PROVIDE IN THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE THEY HAVE FUNDS IN THOSE SPECIAL REVENUES BUT I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS CHAPTER 59 OR INMATE BENEFIT.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: IT'S DEFTLY SOMETHING WE HAVE AND WE WANT
TO LOOK INTO. >> COMMISSIONER: THE SHERIFF SAID IT WAS A REQUIREMENT OF THE COUNTY THAT THEY HAVE BEEN
COVERING FOR US AS WELL. >> GUEST SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER WHERE WE ARE AT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO GO THROUGH AND RESUBMITTED OUT A FORM DEPARTMENT TO GIVE US WHAT WE BELIEVE IS A DOABLE CUT FROM THEIR DEPARTMENT WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR A PERCENTAGE OR AN AMOUNT BUT IF YOU ALL WANT TO SAY BEST REPRESENT YOU CAN PAY IT WERE SAYING THE DEPARTMENT
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CAN YOU GIVE THE BEST ESTIMATE MYSELF. I AM GOING THROUGH THEIR I'M REMOVING TWO POSITIONS I'M REMOVING TWO POSITIONS AND DEFINITELY REDUCING SOME OF MY OTHER BUDGET FOR IT. IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT IT'S A REDUCTION AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH EVERY ONE OF MY LINES TO SEE HOW I CAN REDUCE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SENT OUT TO ALL THE DEPARTMENT SAYING TO US YOUR BEST ESTIMATE AND WILL BRING IT TO COURT. THIS MAY BE SOMETHING YOU CAN USE OR MAY NOT USE WERE NOT GOING TO GUARANTEE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IT FROM YOU BUT THIS GIVES US AN OPTION AND Y'ALL ANOPTION ON WHAT TO DO. >> COMMISSIONER: I GUESS THAT SEGUES ME INTO G THE NEW SALARY REQUEST. I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THAT. B3 IN THE DEFENSE OF EVERYONE THESE REQUESTS WERE MADE IN MAY BEFORE ANYONE KNEW ABOUT THE CUT.
>> COMMISSIONER: RENO AND THIS IS THE EASIEST TIME TO DO IT AND I THINK THE BEST THING WOULD BE TO DO THIS G AND H AND I KNOW A LOT OF THINGS WERE DONE THAT WAY AND ANYTHING THAT INCREASE WE SHOULD TAKE OFF THE BOARD AT THIS POINT.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: I HAVE NOT PUT ANY REQUIREMENTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THE SALARY WE COULD DEFINITELY GO THROUGH EACH ONE IF IT'S AN INCREASE WE WILL NOT CONSIDER IT AND SOME OF THEM WILL HAVE A DECREASE IN THE BALANCE AND WE WILL SAY OKAY HOW BIG OF A DECREASE IS THAT AND WE WILL DEFINITELY LOOK AT THIS AND BRING FORWARD FOR Y'ALL TO REVIEW. THIS IS
WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING. >> COMMISSIONER: THE JUDGE IS RIGHT AND THAT'S WHY WERE NOT GOING THROUGH IT INDIVIDUALLY BUT IN GENERAL TERMS. I KNOW A LOT OF THESE ARE MADE A LONG TIME AGO AND SOUNDING THE ALARM AND EVERYONE HAS WORKED REALLY HARD ON THIS BUT MY QUESTION IS IF WE LOOK AT G AND H ANYTHING THAT IS REPRESENTING A POSITIVE INCREASE TO GENERAL FUNDS TO ME SHOULD BE TAKEN OFF THE BOARD AND WE ELIMINATE THOSE BUT AGAIN THAT IS MY OPINION AND I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYONE FEELS ABOUT IT AND I GET IT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO AFFECT PEOPLE BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO SALARY RECLASSIFICATIONS AND NEW POSITIONS THAT AREN'T OFFSET BY CHANGES IN YOUR
EXISTING BUDGET. >> GUEST SPEAKER: ALSO THE INFORMATION WE SENT OUT TO THE DEPARTMENTS WE SENT OUT A POSITION INFORMATION SAYING IF THERE IS A CHANCE THAT YOU CAN CHANGE OR REDUCE SALARIES PLEASE LET ME KNOW. MY STAFF I'M GOING TO ELIMINATE TWO POSITIONS AND -THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO AND OTHERS MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO. SOME OF THOSE OTHER SMALL DEPARTMENTS THERE'S NOT MUCH THEY CAN DO BECAUSE THEY ARE SO SMALL FOR Y'ALL, SOME OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS
THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO. >> COMMISSIONER: THIS YEAR THINK WE PAID 200,000 FOR THAT SOFTWARE? I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WILL BALANCE OFF THE THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY WERE GOING TO PAY 600,000 FOR IT THAT'S 800,000 RIGHT THERE.
>> COMMISSIONER: THOSE ARE ONE-TIME COSTS.
>> COMMISSIONER: I GUESS THOSE ARE ONE-TIME COSTS WHY WASN'T THIS UNDER GENERAL COST INSTEAD OF INCLUDED IN Y'ALL'S BUDGET? NEXT YEAR DO WE HAVE TO TAKE IT OUT?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THIS IS THE WAY IT'S BEEN DONE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND WE CONSOLIDATED WHERE OUR SOFTWARE IS AND WERE ABOUT TO GO THROUGH THE REQUIREMENT ON THE COUNTY SIDE THAT WE NEED TO REPORT ONE OF THOSE COMPUTER SYSTEM
SCENARIOS. >> COMMISSIONER: I DO THINK WE SHOULD HAVE IT IN A SEPARATE THING BECAUSE WE GOT A LOT OF PHONE CALLS ABOUT THE INCREASE IN IT. IT'S REALLY JUST SOFTWARE, THIS ONE-TIME FEE. THERE WILL BE ANNUAL FEES BUT
NOT THIS MUCH. >> GUEST SPEAKER: WE HAD TO RUN TWO SYSTEMS AT ONCE AND THIS YEAR IT'S ONLY ONE.
>> COMMISSIONER: EVERYONE ELSE IS TOLD TO CUT AND Y'ALL ARE
INCREASING. >> GUEST SPEAKER: RIGHT NOW THE ANNUAL FEE IS 600,000. EVERY YEAR.
>> COMMISSIONER: 600,000 PER YEAR?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: S THE CURRENT ONE IS FOR $2000 PER YEAR.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THERE WILL BE A 450 -ISH CUT. WE HAVE TWO SYSTEMS AND THUS THE REASON WE HAVE TO IMPLEMENT ON-TIME.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: S, THAT'S IN THE BUDGET.
>> COMMISSIONER: IT IS NOT AN INCREASE?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: WE HAD LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AND WE HAVE THIS YEAR'S BECAUSE OF THE WORKDAYS IT'S A SMALL INCREASE.
>> COMMISSIONER: BUT NEXT YEAR THAT GOES AWAY THE 450 GOES AWAY BECAUSE OF THE TRANSITION?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES. >> COMMISSIONER: WE ARE LOOKING AT ITEM G. I CAN SEE ITEM G. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE SECOND
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PAGE OF THE ARPA POSITION SALARY REQUEST AND I LOOK AT THE AMOUNT AND THE COURT SUPPORTED FUNDING THAT I HAD OFFERED FOR THE MEDICAL EXAMINER INVESTIGATION BUT THE MEDICAL EXAMINER THIRD POSITION IS NOT ON HERE. IT IS WHERE?>> GUEST SPEAKER: G1. GENERAL FUND. 3890 MEDICAL EXAMINER.
ON PAGE G1. >> GUEST SPEAKER: 3890.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE.
>> COMMISSIONER: THAT POSITION I THINK I INCLUDED YOU ON THE EMAIL. I KNOW I DID. ON ELIMINATING THAT POSITION BECAUSE OF THE RECENT RESIGNATION OF THE MEDICAL EXAMINER THAT IS F? AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE FOR THE MEDICAL EXAMINER AND ASSUMING THAT'S FOR THE THIRD MEDICAL EXAMINER BUT NOW THERE IS A SAVINGS THAT WE CAN PUT IN ARPA
FUNDING TOWARDS THE ROOF? >> COMMISSIONER: I THINK THAT
IS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE 23RD. >> GUEST SPEAKER: WE WILL MOVE IT FROM THE ARPA FUND AND MAKE SURE THE BALANCE IS THERE. I DID NOT INCLUDE THE REST OF THE COURT OR THE JUDGE AND YOU ALL,
TERESA AND TWO OTHERS. >> GUEST SPEAKER: IT WILL DEDICATE THE FUNDING TO SOMETHING ELSE BUT I THINK -
>> GUEST SPEAKER: ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE THIS IS WHAT WE HAD TO DO TO ADD TO THE GENERAL FUND WITHOUT EVERYONE SAYING GOING TO HAVE A REDUCTION IN THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S TO REDUCE THE OFFICE. THE CHIEF OR THE DEPUTY CHIEF AND ILLUMINATE ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS AND YOU WILL
SEE THE SAVINGS. >> COMMISSIONER: I GUESS NOW IS NOT THE TIME NAVY WE WILL DO IT ON THE 23RD BUT WITH ALL THE DISCUSSIONS AND THE MOVES THAT WE TOOK AS A COURT LAST WEEK TO DOWNSIZE THOSE SERVICES THAT WE ARE PROVIDING, DOES THAT INCLUDE THESE TWO POSITIONS? WE DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT NOW ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE MAY NOT KNOW THE INVESTIGATIVE POSITIONS. THAT MAY BE SOME ADDITIONAL SAVINGS IF WERE NOT
TAKING ON OUTSIDE COUNTY WORK. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THAT'S THE ISSUE IS RIGHT NOW IN THE GENERAL FUND WE HAVE SIX INVESTIGATORS TO PART-TIME AND THESE NEGATIVE TOTAL OF EIGHT.
SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER.
>> COMMISSIONER: IF WE COULD HAVE THAT BY THE 23RD AT LEAST SO WE DON'T SPEND ANY TIME ON THAT?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: YOU PUT IN FOR THE AUTOPSY AND WE HAVE THREE THAT WE STILL NEED THREE.
>> COMMISSIONER: PUT IN FOR WHICH ONE? >> COMMISSIONER: THE TECHNICIAN FOR THE THE ARPA FUNDS. AND IT MIGHT GO TO THE COUNTY IF THEY NEED THAT ONE, TOO.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: IT COULD BE AN ISSUE.
>> COMMISSIONER: COULD WE ROLLOVER THIS POSITION FOR A YEAR UNTIL WE NEEDED IT AND IT WOULD BE A SAVINGS FOR US OF
THREE AND A THOUSAND? >> GUEST SPEAKER: CAN YOU HOLD IT FOR A YEAR, YES BUT YOU HAVE TO BUDGET FOR IT.
>> COMMISSIONER: I THINK WE ONLY NEED TO. WE WON'T DO
THREE. >> GUEST SPEAKER: YOU CAN SAY YOU WANT TO WORK WITH THE COURT FOR THE MEDICAL EXAMINER THE ACTUAL CHIEF. THEN THAT'S ANOTHER CHIEF DEPUTY MAN. SO MAINLY, I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THE THIRD ONE OUT.
>> COMMISSIONER: SINCE WE HAVE TAKEN IT, IF YOU STILL HAVE IT IN BASED ON THE ACTIONS OF THE COURT SO FAR BY ELIMINATING OUT OF COUNTY, WE SHOULD TAKE THE THIRD ONE OUT AND JOHN WILL DO
WHATEVER HE'S GOING TO DO. >> GUEST SPEAKER: CURRENTLY THERE WOULD BE THREE AND A CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER WHICH IS AT 500,000 YOU MIGHT NOT WANT TO BE AT THAT ANYMORE YOU CAN REDUCE THAT AND WE CAN SAY BY REDUCING THAT THE INTERN CAN TAKE THAT POSITION AS A PERSON IN ARPA CAN TAKE THAT AND IT
GOES AWAY. >> COMMISSIONER: DOES NOT SAVE US IN THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE A THIRD POSITION WAS ARPA
FUNDS? >> COMMISSIONER: IT WAS STILL BUDGETED IT WAS JUST COVERED BY ARPA.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES. IF WE WANT TO DOCTORS YES JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO STRUCTURE.
>> COMMISSIONER: MY INCLINATION WOULD BE ACED ON THE EXPERIENCE OF THE MEDICAL EXAMINERS IS TO LET THE INTERIM FOR A WHILE IT'S UP TO THE REST OF THE COURT BUT THAT'S WHERE I WOULD GO TO SEE HOW THIS ONE DOES. IT SOUNDS GREAT IT LOOKS GREAT AND WE MET HIM FOR 5 MINUTES 30 SECONDS WHEN HE WAS BROUGHT IN
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AND INTERVIEWED. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER SCOTT GOOD CREDENTIALS BUT THE POINT IS ITS BUDGET VERSUS ACTUAL. IF THE THIRD DOCTOR IS BUDGETED THAT IS COVERED BY ARPA IT NEEDS TO BE IN MY OPINION AND THE COURT CAN WEIGH IN, IT COMES OUT OF THE BUDGET BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO STAY WITH TWO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST OF THE TWO WILL BE YET BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE US TO GET COMFORTABLE NAMING THE INTERIM THE REAL ONE WHATEVER GOING TO DO NOT THE REAL ONEBUT THE PERMANENT ONE, SORRY. >> GUEST SPEAKER: AND THAT'S THE QUESTION WITH THE COURT LET'S SAY WE HAVE TWO DOCTORS AND ONE IS THROUGH THE ARPA FUND TWO OR THREE THERE CURRENTLY ON STAFF AND SO THE CURRENT ONE THAT WE HAVE WE WILL CONSIDER INTERIM. AND MAYBE SOMETIME HE BECOMES THE CHIEF I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S FOR THE COURT WHAT ABOUT THE SECOND ONE DOES IT COME UNDER THE CHIEF? BASICALLY IT'S ELIMINATED AND WE FIRE THE PERSON?
>> COMMISSIONER: MY UNDERSTANDING IS SHE'S A BRAND-NEW DOCTOR.
GENERAL FUND NOT ARPA. >> COMMISSIONER: MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE ONE THAT WE HAVE NOW THE ONE THAT WE HAVE NOW IS AN APPROPRIATE PAY LEVEL FOR THE LEVEL EXPERIENCE THAT PARTICULAR PERSON HAS. WE DON'T KNOW THAT BUT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND AT THE END OF THE DAY I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE WILL BE TAKEN DOWN BUT ONE IS GOING TO HAPPEN. BE CONSERVATIVE AND HOW YOU DO IT BUT ONE OF THEM HAS TO COME OUT. IT'S A BIG BUDGETED POSITION THAT WILL COME OUT
RIGHT THERE. >> GUEST SPEAKER: AND THAT'S WHAT I COULD WORK WITH. I WOULD LIKE A DIRECTION FROM THE COURT IF WE HIRE A NEW MEDICAL EXAMINER WHAT PAY LEVEL WILL
THAT BE? >> COMMISSIONER: WE ARE A
LITTLE INFLUX ON THAT. >> GUEST SPEAKER: AND PHIL THAT
OTHER POSITION OUT? >> COMMISSIONER: QUITE POSSIBLY THE CHANGES WE MADE OUT OF COUNTY WE CAN DO AWAY WITH SOME OF THE OTHER POSITIONS AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, THE INVESTIGATORS AND THE TECHNICIANS WITH A LOWER AMOUNT OF AUTOPSIES THAT WILL COME OUT.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: ALL OF YOUR INVESTIGATORS HAVE ABOUT $3000
ALLOWANCE. >> COMMISSIONER: YES AND THAT'S THE QUESTION HAVE WE GOTTEN THE RESPONSE BACK FROM THE ELECTED
OFFICIALS? >> GUEST SPEAKER: IT'S FRIDAY.
>> COMMISSIONER: THE JUDGE WILL SEND IT OUT.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: FRIDAY AT 10 PM. THAT WAS THE LAST ONE.
>> COMMISSIONER: IS NO PROBLEM. AT SOME POINT WE REALLY WANT TO HEAR FROM ELECTED OFFICIALS BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL RUN VERY WELL AND VERY EFFICIENTLY AND THIS WILL CUT INTO THE BONE FOR A LOT OF THEM AND IT IS NOT COOL. I DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM. AT SOME POINT WE AS A COLLECTIVE BODY NEED TO SEND YOU IDEAS FOR WHETHER IT IS REDUCTION FORCES OR ACROSS-THE-BOARD CUT OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE WE CANNOT DO IT UNTIL WE HEAR BACK FROM THE OFFICIALS AND
DEPARTMENT HEADS. >> GUEST SPEAKER: WE CAN GIVE
THEM FIVE DAYS. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO COME BACK TUESDAY AND THEY'LL BE TOMORROW IT WILL GIVE US WEDNESDAY TO KEY IT IN AND HOPEFULLY REPRINT AND HAVE
YOU SOMETHING ON THURSDAY. >> COMMISSIONER: YEAH.
>> COMMISSIONER: WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME RESPONSE ALREADY.
>> COMMISSIONER: THAT IS GOOD I THINK WE NEED TO SEND SOMETHING TO ALL EMPLOYEES. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF BUZZ ABOUT IT BUT NEED TO SEND SOMETHING TO THE EMPLOYEES AND SAY LOOK, WERE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN HERE AND IF YOU HAVE IDEAS TAKE THEM TO THE APARTMENT GOOD I DON'T KNOW. TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND WE ARE STILL, I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS WE ARE STILL IN A BAD SPOT AND I DON'T KNOW HOW ARE GOING TO DO ALL OF THIS. I AM HOPING Y'ALL ARE GOING TO MAKE SOME SPECIFIC SUGGESTIONS TO WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE NOT JUST WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOURS AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVERYBODY'S AND WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: JUST SO YOU KNOW I RAN THE SUBTOTALS VACANCIES RIGHT NOW IF WE DO IT VACANCIES THERE ARE 208 VACANCIES IN THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW. IN ALL DEPARTMENTS.
ENTIRE GOOD IF WE DO ENTIRE VACANCIES WITHOUT LOOKING AT WHO THEY ARE IT IS $10 MILLION BUT WE CAN'T DO THEM ALL.
>> COMMISSIONER: YOU CAN'T DO THE ESSO.
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>> GUEST SPEAKER: IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE SITUATION RIGHT NOW THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE I WILL PICK ON THE JAIL IT IS AT 87 VACANCIES BEFORE COVID HIT THERE WERE ANYWHERE FROM 35 TO 40 VACANCIES EVERY YEAR. THEY CAN DEFINITELY HAVE A BUBBLE TO GO IN BUT YOU STILL GIVE THEM A THRESHOLD OF OVERTIME. THERE WILL STILL BE 30 TO 40 VACANCIES MIGHT AS WELL SAY 80 BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE ARE LEAVING AND YOU WILL DEFINITELY BE SHORT. THERE ARE SOME COSTS.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: TYPICALLY WHENEVER YOU CUT OR FREEZE POSITIONS THE OVERTIME GOES UP BECAUSE THE WORK STILL HAS TO GET DONE AND A LOT OF THEM STILL HAVE TIME CONSTRAINTS TO GET GET THEM DONE AND SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE EFFICIENCIES OF THE OFFICE AND WHAT WORK ARE YOU DOING THAT YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH NOT DOING WHAT IS THE REDUNDANCY THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO? THAT IS THE REASON THE SOFTWARE WILL HELP US IT WILL ELIMINATE SOME REDUNDANCIES.
>> COMMISSIONER: YOU ALSO HAVE STATUTORY OFFICES AND NON- STATUTORY. THAT HAS TO BE LOOKED AT. THERE'S STATUTORY OFFICES AND THOSE ARE BY LAW, RIGHT? IT'S DIFFERENT REGARDLESS AND I KNOW THAT MAY BE OFFENSIVE FOR SOME BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT CATEGORY AND IF YOU ARE STATUTORY IT'S A DIFFERENT WORLD THAN IF YOU ARE NOT STATUTORY BECAUSE WE ARE IN DESPERATE TIMES AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO AND LIKE I SAID WE HAVE MADE DESPITE EVERYBODY ON THIS COURT WANTING TO MAKE GREAT PROGRESS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ON COLLECTIVE BARGAINING. EVERYBODY THINKS WE ARE KIDDING AND WERE NOT KIDDING WE KEEP SEEING THESE NUMBERS AND WERE NOT KIDDING.
EVERY DOLLAR WE SPEND EXTRA THAT'S NOT ON THE BUDGET MEANS WE HAVE TO CUT SOMETHING OR SOMEONE SOMEWHERE ELSE. IF WE GIVE SOMETHING HERE IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE CUT OVER HERE.
WE ARE ALREADY MILLIONS IN THE WHOLE WHEN WE ARE STARTING.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: YOUR SAINT YOU WANT TO BRING VETERANS AND SOCIAL SERVICE BACK HERE AND SUBMIT STUFF OR TRY TO EXPEDITE SOME OF THESE MOVEMENTS BACK TO THE COURTHOUSE FOR THE RENT FOR THIS OR RENT THAT. IF WE HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE BUILD OUR OWN INSTABILITY AND SAVE MONEY BEFORE WE RUN OUT.
>> COMMISSIONER: DO YOU KNOW WHAT, IF YOU PAY RENT -
>> COMMISSIONER: THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
>> COMMISSIONER: WHAT WE PAY IN RENT WE COULD PAY OFF A
BUILDING. >> COMMISSIONER: DON'T WE HAVE ANY PROPERTY THAT WE ARE NOT USING? IT COULD PROBABLY BE SOLD YOU KNOW THE SPACE ON HILLTOP?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO IN THE BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE.
>> COMMISSIONER: SADLY THOSE THINGS WON'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
SELLING THE PROPERTY. >> COMMISSIONER: THIS IS A TIME WHERE WE SHOULD LOOK AT SOCIAL SERVICES FOR EXAMPLE. WHY WOULD WE NOT COMBINE THAT? SAY CHRIS CHRISTIE IS A GREAT AREA FOR THAT ARE WE? I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE. I AM ASKING YOU THAT ARE WE DUPLICATING THE SERVICES THERE: IF THE 80 PERCENT OF WHAT THE SERVICES DOES IN THE AREA OF CORPUS CHRISTI TO ME THAT'S A POTENTIAL DUPLICATION OF SERVICES. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS RIGHT NOW. THIS IS GOING TO STINK TO HAVE TO DO BUT WHERE WE HAVE TO DO IT HAVE TO DO IT IN EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY DEPARTMENT STATUTORY NON-STATUTORY AND WHAT WE NEED TO GET IS FROM SOMEBODY.
TERESA OR A DAY. WHAT IS THE LIST OF STATUTORY DEPARTMENTS AND PUT THAT OUT TO THE COURT AND PUT THAT OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND SAY HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO BY LAW AND HERE'S THE EXTRA WE ARE DOING BECAUSE WE WANT TO PROVIDE GOOD SERVICE AND GOOD VALUE FOR YOUR TAX DOLLAR BUT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THESE REFINERY SHORTAGES AND DISPUTES AND EVERYTHING GOING ON WE ARE
IN A MESS. >> GUEST SPEAKER: YES SIR. WE THOUGHT OF THAT AS WELL AND WE ALREADY REQUESTED A COUNTY ATTORNEY OPINION FOR THAT TO FIND OUT WHICH DEPARTMENTS ARE STATUTORY AND WHICH PORTIONS OF THE DEPARTMENT IS STATUTORY AND WHAT'S REQUIRED TO HAVE THAT AVAILABLE.
>> COMMISSIONER: WE NEED THAT QUICK.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: WE REQUESTED IT.
>> COMMISSIONER: NOT YOU BUT SOMEONE NEEDS TO GET IT TO US FOR THURSDAY SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT ON THURSDAY.
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>> JUDGE: TERESA WAS THERE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO TALK TO
THE COURT ABOUT? >> COMMISSIONER: THIS DOCUMENT THAT WE PASSED OUT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS Y'ALL CONSIDER THESE OPTIONS YOU HAVE AVAILABLE AND I STARTED LOOKING AT SOME THINGS AND UNTIL WE CAN HEAR BACK FROM THE DEPARTMENTS OR ELECTED OFFICIALS SOMETHING THAT THE COURT CAN CONSIDER?
>> COMMISSIONER: CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT, DALE, THE ONE THAT IS UP THERE IT'S NOT A POLICY CAN WE DO AWAY WITH IT? NOT
SUSPEND? >> GUEST SPEAKER: IT IS WRITTEN TO THE POLICY THAT WE DO THIS AND THIS AND THESE ARE REGULAR EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS CIVIL SERVICE AND THAT SOMETHING THE ATTORNEYS HAVE TO SAY, CAN WE SUSPEND THIS FOR THIS PERIOD OF TIME FOR I WOULD SAY BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HURT ANYONE HERE TO WE WILL BE HURTING PEOPLE BUT SUSPENDED FOR THREE YEARS.
>> COMMISSIONER: THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS OF TRAVEL IF YOU DO IT FOR ONE YEAR YOU HAVE TO DO IT FOR ALL THREE.
>> COMMISSIONER: WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THIS YEAR IS THE SMALLEST YEAR AND WE WILL BE SAVING A SMALL AMOUNT ABOUT THREE TO $400,000.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: IT IS TO 19. >> COMMISSIONER: THAT'S A LOT
OF MONEY RIGHT NOW. >> JUDGE: TO 19 IT'S ON THE
FIRST PAGE. >> COMMISSIONER: I THOUGHT
THERE WERE TWO? >> GUEST SPEAKER: TO 19 -ISH.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE ATTORNEYS IF IT IS SUSPENDED DO YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT TO THE CIVIL SERVICES ORDERED IN THIS POLICY WILL SAY WHETHER IT SOME THING, CAN WE - YOU WILL HAVE TO RELY ON THE READING OF HOW IT WORKS. THIS IS THE SMALLEST YEAR AND THE NEXT TWO YEARS GET BIGGER AND BIGGER. YOU WILL BE BETTER THE NEXT TWO YEARS SAVINGS WISE AND THIS YEAR 219, 220 YOU KNOW HOW THE BENEFITS ARE. AND THAT'S WHERE THE ISSUE NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT UP.
IT CAN BE. >> COMMISSIONER: DO WE WANT TO GO THROUGH THE LIST YOU PROVIDED US? YOU CAN START TALKING ABOUT THOSE THINGS. WE ARE HERE, RIGHT?
>> COMMISSIONER: I THINK THE CAR ALLOWANCE LOOKS FINE TO ME HERE THE VEHICLE LEASE, THE FIRE MARSHAL DEPARTMENT DID WE CAN MAKE HEADWAY ON THIS STUFF IF THE COURT WANTS TO LOOK INTO THIS STUFF. WE CAN'T VOTE BUT WE CAN GIVE THEM DIRECTION SO
WE KNOW. >> GUEST SPEAKER: OF GONE THROUGH THE VEHICLE FLEET LEASE AND I REDUCED IT BY $190,000.
>> COMMISSIONER: ASSESS ADDITIONAL COURT DECISIONS.
THEY NEED TO COME APPEAR AND SAY THAT'S OKAY!
>> GUEST SPEAKER: WITH NO ADDITIONAL FLEET INCREASES FOR
THE NEXT FEW YEARS. >> COMMISSIONER: NEXT TWO
YEARS? >> GUEST SPEAKER: THE CLERK IS SAYING IT WOULD BE BEST TO SPEND IT FOR TWO YEARS. WE WILL STILL PAY WHAT WE HAVE THAT WE WON'T GET NEW VEHICLES.
> COMMISSIONER: THE 190 IS FOR THE WHOLE YEAR?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES NEXT YEAR AND WE CONTINUE THAT LEVEL FROM
NOW ON. >> GUEST SPEAKER: FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS. IT WOULD BE A TOTAL REDUCTION AND WE TALK TO THEM THEY SAID THE FLEET WAS FAIRLY NEW AND IT WOULD BE FINE IT
WOULD NOT BE IMPACTED. >> GUEST SPEAKER: WE REPLACED 95 OF OUR TUNA VEHICLES AND WE TRIED TO GO WITH THE OLDEST AND WORST KEPT UP VEHICLES WE COULD.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: ON THE CAR ALLOWANCE SOME OF OUR DISCUSSIONS AND MEETINGS WAS THIS CUTTING IT IN HALF FOR THOSE WHO HAD A CAR ALLOWANCE. FOR SOME OF THE SMALLER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE -SOME OF US THAT CANNOT CUT A LOT OF THINGS THIS WILL GET EVERYONE INVESTED INTO EVERYONE MAKING
CUTS AND WORKING TOGETHER. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THAT MEANS WE WOULD BE REMOVING A SALARY FOR A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF
EMPLOYEES. >> COMMISSIONER: I'M NOT SAYING NO TO THAT GOING TO DO THAT ON MY OWN I'M GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS COME BACK ON THAT ONE JUST BECAUSE WERE GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY. FOR THE VEHICLE LEASE ONCE
THAT'S AN EASY ONE FOR ME. >> GUEST SPEAKER: BASICALLY OF
ALREADY DONE THAT. >> COMMISSIONER: THE FIRE MARSHAL REALLOCATED BUDGET WHAT IS THAT?
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>> GUEST SPEAKER: RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THAT IN THE FIRE MARSHAL AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN REMOVE THAT DEPARTMENT ENTIRELY AT SOME POINT IN TIME IF WE WANT TO BRING IT BACK WITH OUTSIDE SERVICES IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO CHARGE IT TO A DIFFERENT
DEPARTMENT. >> GUEST SPEAKER: ON THAT I SUGGEST IF WE LEAVE IT ON THEIR WE CUT THE BUDGET DOWN TO 25,000 IF EVERYONE THINKS THAT'S OKAY I HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM AND CHIEF CLACK SAID HE WOULD DO IT FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS FOR 25,000 TO HELP US OUT BECAUSE HE KNOWS THE SITUATION
WE ARE IN. >> COMMISSIONER: SO WE WILL REDUCE IT BY 75,000? SUPER REASONABLE.
>> COMMISSIONER: WE HAVE TO INCREASE OUR COST ON ITEM EIGHT. $50,000? BECAUSE THE CONTRACTS ARE DIFFERENT SO THOSE HAVE NOW GONE UP AND WE NEED SOME ADDITIONAL
DOLLARSTHERE. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THERE IS A POSITION CURRENTLY ESTABLISHED AS FAR MARSHAL AND IF THE COURT
WISHES YOU CAN REMOVE IT. >> JUDGE: I THINK THAT WOULD BE
THE 25,000. >> GUEST SPEAKER: $83,000.
>> JUDGE: THAT WOULD BE THE CUT.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: WE WOULD HAVE THE ADDITIONAL FIRE CALLS AND PROTECTIONS WE TALKED ABOUT AND YOU WOULD ALMOST BE AT NET ZERO. MOST. SO THERE'S NO SAVINGS THERE.
>> JUDGE: NO SAVINGS BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED COSTS.
>> COMMISSIONER: I'M FINE WITH THEM DOING IT TO 5000. WHAT I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE DONE. HE DOES A GOOD JOB.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: HEY DALE, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ON THE LEASING OF THE CARS I REMEMBER WE USED TO BUY OUR OWN CARS AND WAYS TO SELL THEM AT AUCTION. DO YOU RECALL WAS A BENEFICIAL TO THE COUNTY MAC I KNEW PEOPLE WOULD COME AND BUY OUR CARS BUT DID WE MAKE MONEY OFF OF THOSE CARS AT THE AUCTION?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT? YOU NORMALLY REPLACE THE CARS AT 150,000 MILES WHEN THE WHEELS ARE FALLING OFF SO NORMALLY ON A GUN YEAR WHEN YOU BUY CARS YOU ONLY BY 15 TO 20 AT THE MOST PER YEAR. THAT DID NOT CHANGE THE FLEET VERY MUCH AND THE RENTAL OF THIS IS A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE NOT A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE BUT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN ABLE TO REPLACE 95 OF OUR CARS IN THREE YEARS. RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF OUR INSURANCE OFFICE OR CONSTABLES ARE ON ROAD CREWS AS WELL THEY ARE DRIVING 123-YEAR-OLD CARS AND ONCE THEY GET TO FIVE YEARS THE RENTAL COMPANY SAID THEY WILL REPLACE THEM, THEY WILL SELL THEM AND WE WILL GET ANY BALANCE OVER. THAT CANNOT BE SUBMITTED AGAIN.
>> COMMISSIONER: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
>> COMMISSIONER: OKAY. AND THEN AGAIN, AS MUCH AS I HATE TO DO IT BUT THE STUDENT LOAN REPAYMENT PROGRAM I THINK WE HAVE TO. WHAT ARE WE OBLIGATED- YOU CAN'T CUT SOMEONE OFF WHO WE ARE OBLIGATED TO BUT WHAT DO WE DO
WITH THAT? >> GUEST SPEAKER: THE STUDENT LOAN IS $1200 PER YEAR WE SIGNED AN AGREEMENT FOR IT. IT IS EVERY FISCAL YEAR SO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR WILL CAN SUSPEND IT. BECAUSE IT'S NOT ANY REQUIREMENT, WE JUST WANTED TO HELP THOSE WHO HAD LARGE STUDENT LOANS.
>> COMMISSIONER: SUSPEND. >> COMMISSIONER: WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT BUT WE DO HAVE TO CUT SOME THINGS.
>> COMMISSIONER: IT'S A SUSPENSION AND WE WILL BRING IT BACK WHEREVER WE CAN GOOD I DON'T WANT TO DO 24 YET BECAUSE WE ARE WAITING ON THE DEPARTMENT THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND MAYBE BY THURSDAY WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF THAT ONE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND 25 SO EXPLAIN THAT TO ME. 25
AND 26. >> COMMISSIONER: 25 WE HAD ADDITIONAL FUNDS. > GUEST SPEAKER: IT WAS A SPECIAL REVENUE AND EVERY YEAR THE COURT TELLS US IF WE HAVE A CELL OF ASSETS IN THE BALANCES. THIS WOULD GO TO THE SELL OF ASSETS FUND AND THERE ARE FUNDS AVAILABLE IN THESE TWO FUNDS IN THESE AMOUNTS AND WERE SAYING WE CAN TRANSFER THIS ONE-TIME FUND OUT OF THE FUND AND THE COUNTY CAN USE IT FOR WHATEVER THEY CHOOSE TO USE IT OR AND THESE CAN BE TRANSFERRED TO THE
GENERAL FUND. >> COMMISSIONER: IT IS A ONE-TIME DEAL? KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: CORRECT AND YOU GET DOWN TO ALMOST 0.
>> JUDGE: WHAT HAVE WE IN THE PAST HEAVY USE THOSE FUNDS FOR MAC WHAT KIND OF BIND WILL WE BE IN IF WE TRANSFERRED OUT?
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>> GUEST SPEAKER: IT HAS BEEN USED FOR MATCHING FUNDS.
>> COMMISSIONER: IT WOULD BE MORE PRUDENT TO SAY WILL SPREAD IT OVER FIVE YEARS INSTEAD OF ALL THE ONCE AND REALLY SCREWING OURSELVES. I AM SORRY PUTTING OURSELVES IN A BAD SPOT. I DON'T THINK IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPREAD IT OUT OVER A FIVE-YEAR BUDGET YOU'RE GOING TO USE IT AND TONE IT DOWN AND THAT'S ONE THING AND MAYBE WIN THE SETTLES DOWN WE CAN FIND
50? NOT 500. TWICE. >> GUEST SPEAKER: TOWARDS THE 23RD WILL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHERE WE ARE AT AND WE WILL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON IT. YES, I'VE HUNDRED THOUSAND IS A
LARGE AMOUNT. >> COMMISSIONER: 26 IS THAT THE
SAME CONCEPT? >> GUEST SPEAKER: SAME CONCEPT.
WHETHER THEY GET 100 OR 200 PLUS PER YEAR FOR RENT BUT THIS IS A ROAD THAT HAS TO BE USED IN PRECINCT 4 AREA FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD USE TO REDUCE 120 180 WHICH WILL POSSIBLY REDUCE THE TRANSFERS FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE FUNDS BASICALLY KICKING THE CAN
DOWN THE ROAD. >> COMMISSIONER: OR YOU CAN FIND PROJECTS THAT ARE IN DISTRICT 4 THAT ARE ONE-TIME PROJECTS THAT WE SUPPLEMENT PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO USE AND THAT'S NOT QUITE KEYING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE IT'S A ONE-TIME PROJECT AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. IF HER DOING ONE-TIME TRANSFERS AND WERE BACK TO HAVING TO FIX THIS ALL.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: YOU YOURSELF SCOTT WITH YOUR AREAS AND WHAT CAN WE USE THE FUND ON WITH THE ONE-TIME BUILDING OF WHATEVER AND THEN WE CAN REDUCE THE 180 AND WE CAN WORK THAT.
>> COMMISSIONER: THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO DO IT. IF WE CAN REDUCE, IT CAN'T BE NEXT YEAR THEY COME BACK TO ASK THAT WE ARE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A REDUCTION A LEGIT REDUCTION. WE COULD BE KICKING THE CAN,
TOO. >> GUEST SPEAKER: PERHAPS PUBLIC WORKS OR ROAD FUNDS AND WE CAN REDUCE THAT COST.
COASTAL PARK IS THE SAME WE WANT TO BUILD THE BUILDING WITHOUT ONE-TIME EXPENSE. THAT'S HOW WE FUNDED IT THE ONE-TIME EXPENSE. POSSIBLY IT I'M JUST SAYING, IN GENERALS.
27 WE HAVE A RIGHT-OF-WAY FUND WE ADDED 3 TO 400 THOUSAND DOLLARSAND THE STATE WILL REIMBURSE IT BUT AS WE CONTINUE TO HAVE MORE AND MORE ROADWAYS BUILT HERE, TEXAS DOT WILL SAY WE WANT MONEY FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY WHICH WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: KEEP IN MIND THIS MONEY WAS ALREADY ALLOCATED BECAUSE WE ALREADY GOT IT FROM TX DOT. THEY CAN SEND US AN INVOICE AT ANY TIME AND WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE
MONEY. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THE BALANCES 400,000 AND WE DID USE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY WHEN PARK CAME IN AND SAID WE COULD HAVE IT AND IT IS ALL TEMPORARY. I DON'T WANT TO USE UP ALL THE FUNDS ON THIS. IF THEY DECIDE WE NEED ANOTHER BRIDGE TO THE ISLAND WE MIGHT NEED IT RIGHT AWAY FOR
THEM. >> GUEST SPEAKER: YOU SAID
40,000? >> GUEST SPEAKER: I BELIEVE IT'S RIGHT AROUND $400,000 IN FUNDS.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO PAID OUT AFTER FIVE YEARS AND THREE YEARS AFTER THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE MONEY. THE AMOUNT THAT THEY CAN SEND THE
INVOICE FOR HIS SIGNIFICANT. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THEIR LAST REQUEST WAS 500,000 AND THEY DID SEND IT BACK.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES, THANK YOU. SORRY.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: IT WAS SIX TO $700,000 TOTAL. THERE MIGHT BE SOME FUNDS THAT WE CAN USE THERE AGAIN IF YOU TAKE IT AWAY IT GETS NO MONEY FROM ANYWHERE OTHER THAN GENERAL FUND. THE MONEY WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM GENERAL FUND.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: AS WE GO THROUGH NUMBER 28 I HAVE A VACANCY POSITION AND I CAN GIVE YOU A PRINT OUT OF WHO HAS VACANCIES BUT AS WE KNOW SOME OF THEM -ÁSPEAKER3Á SOME OF THEM CANNOT BE CUT BUT WE DO NEED A LIST OF VACANCIES.
>> COMMISSIONER: WILL HEAR BACK FROM THE DEPARTMENTS WE CAN
REDUCE THE BUDGETS. >> GUEST SPEAKER: I WILL MAKE
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SURE YOU HAVE A LIST OF VACANCIES AND WHAT IS AVAILABLE TO THE LARGEST ONE IS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.>> JUDGE: CAN WE GET FROM PURCHASING WHO HAS A LIST OF CAR ALLOWANCES AND WHO HAS VEHICLES BY DEPARTMENT AS WELL?
BY DEPARTMENT? >> GUEST SPEAKER: I HAVE THAT
RIGHT HERE. >> GUEST SPEAKER: WE DO HAVE CAR ALLOWANCES. PEOPLE HAVE IT THROUGH VEHICLES AND SCIENCE.
YES. >> JUDGE: YOU WILL HAVE TO GO BY DEPARTMENT FOR THE CAR ALLOWANCES.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THE END OF THE DAY WE WILL HAVE A LIST OF THE VACANCIES AS WELL AS THOSE WHO HAVE THE CAR ALLOWANCES.
>> JUDGE: THANK YOU. 29 WE ARE NOT READY FOR, PERMANENT POSITIONS, DELETING. I THINK THIS IS VERY MATURE EVEN TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE SEE HOW MANY DEPARTMENTS WE ARE WILLING TO
CUT. >> GUEST SPEAKER: HIRING FREEZE IS HARD ALSO KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE BUT YOU ARE SELECTING WHO CAN HIRE AND WHO CAN'T BECAUSE LAW ENFORCEMENT NEEDS TO HIRE. THERE ARE PLACES.
>> COMMISSIONER: AGAIN I THINK THIS IS WAIT UNTIL THURSDAY.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: WE BEEN TALKING ABOUT BUDGET ITSELF AND WE MIGHT NOT END IT FREE WE MIGHT PUT IT IN THE BUDGET RESOLUTION SAYING SHOULD A PHRASE BE NECESSARY AND WE COULD HAVE THAT AVAILABLE EVEN THOUGH IN THE MOMENT, IT WILL
BE AVAILABLE IF IT NEEDS IT. >> COMMISSIONER: AND THEN 32 WE BUDGETED A WHOLE YEAR FOR THAT ONE? I DIDN'T THINK SO.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER THE BUDGET, WHAT I'M SAYING IS TO REDUCE THE BUDGET BY 140,000 AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THE WHOLE YEAR 60,000 FOR THE TWO THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND YOU CAN ALSO DO NINE MONTHS LIKE WE DID BEFORE OR JUST TO HAVE IT WITHIN THE BUDGET BECAUSE IT CAME BACK LAST YEAR WE WERE TRYING TO EXTEND IT TO THE END OF SEPTEMBER WE DID NOT. SO YOU HAVE THAT BALANCE IN THEIR.
>> COMMISSIONER: I'M DEFINITELY UP FOR REDUCING.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THEY AREN'T DOING ANYTHING SPECIAL. DO NOT DOING ANYTHING RIGHT NOW. I THINK THE 60 LIKE YOU SAID FOR
NEXT YEAR. >> COMMISSIONER: IF YOU SAY TO 60 AND THIS IS SUGGESTING 140 THAT IS GREAT. AT LEAST.
MAYBE EVEN MORE. >> GUEST SPEAKER: REDUCING ONE
OF 40,000 IN THE BUDGET. >> COMMISSIONER: AND MAYBE
MORE. >> COMMISSIONER: 60 K EACH IF
YOU NEED THEM. >> COMMISSIONER: WE MIGHT WANT TO PUT SOMETHING IN AND IF YOU DON'T USE IT IT'S THE SAVINGS.
>> COMMISSIONER: RIGHT. >> COMMISSIONER: I'M UP FOR A BIG REDUCTION ON THAT ONE. WHAT ABOUT THE IDSA? WHERE ARE
WE WITHOUT ONE? >> GUEST SPEAKER: THAT ONE, WE DID THE ONE PROJECT. I'M NOT SURE EVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES WE BEEN IN IT FOR GOING ANY FURTHER WITH THAT. I THINK THE CONSULTANT WHOSE CONTRACT EXPIRES SHOULD BE COMING UP.
>> COMMISSIONER: 'SWHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> COMMISSIONER: IS NOT THAT MUCH AND I THINK GOING FORWARD COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ WANTED TO GO FORWARD. PUTTING IT OFF FOR
A YEAR IS NOT A GOOD THING. >> COMMISSIONER: I AGREE. 34 IS INTERESTING CONSIDERING WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN RFP OR Q ON THAT. IT IS HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT WE DON'T NEED A BENEFIT CONSULTANT BECAUSE THAT IS A VERY DIFFICULT -
>> GUEST SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER JESSE UNO THE 83,000 IS SPENT OUT OF THE FUNDS NOT THE GENERAL FUND EXPENSE. IT'S BEEN IN THE INSURANCE PREMIUMS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM ALL
THE DEPARTMENT. >> COMMISSIONER: WHY DO WE NOT
PUT IT ON THEIR? >> GUEST SPEAKER: IT SHOULD BE,
YES. >> COMMISSIONER: SO MAYBE THIS SHOULD NOT BE ON THERE SINCE ITS GENERAL FUND?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: WERE GOING OUT FOR BID ZONE PROPOSALS AND THE 84,000 THAT IS THERE A BELIEVE IT'S A GOOD BALANCE AND I BELIEVE WE SHOULD STAY AT 103.
>> COMMISSIONER: THIS IS NOT A GENERAL FUND ITEM?
>> JUDGE: IT IS NOT A GENERAL FUND IT SHOULD BE MOVED.
>> COMMISSIONER: THING WE SHOULD BE FINE ON NUMBER 35 FOR THE NEXT YEAR WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO KNOW IT'S
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TOUGH FOR EVERYBODY BUT I WILL FIND SOME SOMEWHERE ELSE.>> JUDGE: ARE ALL COMMISSIONERS AGREEING ON THAT FOR THE
OUTSIDE AGENCIES? >> GUEST SPEAKER: YES.
>> COMMISSIONER: I AM. >> GUEST SPEAKER: SO FOR MANY THE GENERAL FUND GIVES THE SPECIAL REVENUES THE COMMISSIONER SPECIAL PRECINCT FUND OF 20,000 OR OUTSIDE
AGENCIES? >> COMMISSIONER: ONE YEAR ONLY.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES? I AM TRYING TO GET.
>> JUDGE: IS NOT A VOTE. >> GUEST SPEAKER: I'M NOT EATING A VOTE JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT WHERE EVERYONE STANDS SO WE KNOW. WE WANT THE PROPOSED BUDGET TO BE AS
ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE. >> COMMISSIONER: BUT WHEN WE
VOTE IT IS ALL OR NOTHING. >> COMMISSIONER: ON THE
PROPOSED. >> GUEST SPEAKER: WE PROPOSED A BUDGET ON THE GUIDANCE OF WHAT THE COURT GIVES US AND FROM THAT TO ADOPT THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND THE DAY THAT WE ADOPT THE BUDGET DO YOU GIVE ANY GUIDANCE ON THINGS YOU WANT TO ADD OR REMOVE FROM THE PROPOSED BUDGET? THE MORE GUIDANCE WE GET TODAY AND THURSDAY BETTER OUR PROPOSED WILL BE AND THEREFORE THE SHORTER THE MEETING WOULD BE TO ADOPT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A MORE ACCURATE PROPOSED.
>> COMMISSIONER: I THINK IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE BUT I THINK IF WE DON'T DO IT WE DON'T LOOK GOOD.
>> COMMISSIONER: WOULD IT CUT OTHER DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE THIS IS A DIRECT GENERAL EXPENDITURE.
>> COMMISSIONER: LET'S CLARIFY. ANY DEPARTMENT SHOULD NOT EXTEND ALSO, IT DOES NOT GO TO US IT GOES TO NONPROFIT THAT PROVIDE SERVICES BUT THE COUNTY SHOULD PROVIDE AND WE SHOULD PROVIDE IT. AND THAT'S WHY WE DID IT TO BEGIN WITH. THE THING IS, THESE NONPROFITS WILL TAKE CARE OF THIS THEY TAKE CARE OF THE POOR, THE UNDERINSURED, THE NO INSURED OR THAT MONEY IS NOT JUST LIKE IT'S MONEY IN THE POT, THAT MONEY IS GIVEN TO THOSE THAT ARE IN NEED TO WORK WITH THE YOUTH AND OTHER AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE SERVICES THAT WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING AS A COUNTY AND THAT WE CAN PROVIDE YOU BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE IS DOING THE WORK FOR US. SO, AT ONE POINT YOU DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THE OUTSIDE AGENCY FUND IS THAT A SLUDGE FUND LIKE THE DIABETES FUND FOR DIABETES? I THINK THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT MONEY GOES OUT TO AGENCIES THAT ARE PROVIDING AND TAKING CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT'S IN NEED. THEY NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
>> JUDGE: IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE INCLUDED IN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY QUESTIONS ON STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS FROM THE COUNTY OR YOU SAY THAT'S REQUIRED AS A COUNTY IS THAT
REQUIRED OF THE COUNTY? >> COMMISSIONER: AS FAR AS THE COUNTY SOMEONE HAS TO PROVIDE SERVICES OR WHO WILL? YOU KNOW
WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF IT. >> GUEST SPEAKER: WE NEED
CLARIFICATION ON THAT. >> COMMISSIONER: IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETIMES THE FEES THAT WE GIVE TO THOSE 59 PROFITS ARE THE
SAME THING. >> GUEST SPEAKER: I DON'T THINK IT IS A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT THAT WE GIVE FUNDS TO THE NONPROFIT. BUT I WOULD DEFER TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT IT IS NOT STATUTORILY REQUIRED THAT WE GIVE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE TO NONPROFITS.
>> COMMISSIONER: THE FEES THAT WE COLLECT THE COLLECTIONS TO THOSE FIVE AGENCIES, THAT MONEY GOES TO THEM, RIGHT, IT WILL ALWAYS GO TO THEM OR THAT'S FIVE AGENCIES.
>> COMMISSIONER: THAT'S ON THE FEES COLLECTED BUT IT DOES NOT
COME OUT OF OUR BUDGET. >> COMMISSIONER: IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE IT'S FOR THE SAME PURPOSE, RIGHT?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THE FEE, IF THERE IS A STATUTE THAT ALLOWS US TO COLLECT A FEE, I THINK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT FAMILY
COLLECTION FEE? >> COMMISSIONER: YES.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: GOOD. ON THAT THERE ARE STATUTES THAT SPECIFICALLY STATE WHAT YOU CAN USE THOSE FAMILY PROTECTION FEES FOR. YES, THOSE ARE FUNDS THAT ARE GIVEN TO NONPROFIT AGENCIES BECAUSE STATUTORILY WE ARE ALLOWED TO COLLECT A FEE TO GIVE FUNDS TO THOSE NONPROFIT AGENCIES. THERE IS NO STATUTE THAT WE ARE COLLECTING TAXES TO GIVE FUNDS TO NONPROFIT
AGENCIES. >> COMMISSIONER: THE OTHER GOES
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TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY CONTRACT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARECOMPLIANT. >> GUEST SPEAKER: YES SIR.
>> COMMISSIONER: I'M SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO GET RID OF EVERYTHING BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR WHEN YOU TAKE AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEED IT THE MOST AND THOSE OTHER ONES THAT NEED TO TAKE CARE OF ESPECIALLY IN OUR PRECINCT. SHAME ON US. THANK YOU.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT QUESTION, TERESA CAN HANDLE THIS ONE. ARE THERE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE CAN USE? LET'S SAY IF WE UNIFORMLY CROSS OUT THOSE FOR ONE YEAR ARE THERE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE CAN ALLOCATE THAT WE CAN HAVE AT OUR DISCRETION TO BE ABLE TO USE TO PAY FOR THAT 20,000 AMOUNT FOR VARIOUS ENTITIES?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: BESIDES A SPECIAL REVENUE WHATEVER BALANCE YOU HAVE IN THE SPECIAL REVENUE YOU CAN STILL FUND THOSE AGENCIES. THIS IS THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT FOR NEXT YEAR AND WE HAVE THE FAMILY PROTECTION FEE AMOUNT AND IT USED TO BE FOR THE MARRIAGE LICENSES, THE FEES ATTACHED TO DIVORCE AND THERE'S NO MORE MONEY THE FUND FOR THAT ACCOUNT NOW ARE FOR UNCLAIMED CAPITAL CREDITS CHAFF TO BE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS. THE CHILDREN ADVOCACY PROGRAMS AND THAT SORT. YOU CAN FUND IT FROM THERE.
>> JUDGE: YOU ARE SAYING THERE'S NO OTHER FUNDS THE WE
CAN PULL THIS MONEY FROM? >> GUEST SPEAKER: WHATEVER BALANCE YOU HAVE REMAINING IN THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUND AND THAT IS WHERE THE FUNDS GO THEY GO FROM GENERAL FUND TO SPECIAL REVENUE. YOU CAN STILL FUND WITH OTHER AGENCIES IF YOU
LIKE. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THESE ARE FUNDS FOR YOU AND YOU CAN USE IT IN WHATEVER FUNCTIONS YOU LIKE IN YOUR PRECINCT AS WELL AS THE $20,000 FOR OUTSIDE AGENCIES EVERY YEAR GIVE YOU AN ADDITIONAL 22 PAY FOR THAT AND THIS YEAR THEY WERE SAYING THAT WE WON'T GIVE YOU THE 20 THIS YEAR BUT YOU'LL STILL HAVE A FUND IN YOUR ACCOUNT THAT YOU CAN GIVE THESE AGENCIES BUT IT WON'T BE THE 20 THIS YEAR.
>> COMMISSIONER: AND THERE'S ALSO BIDDING ON THE PROJECTS THEY ARE DOING WITH THE RTA FUND THAT YOU HAVE A GOOD BALANCE OF THAT WE HAVE CREATED IN DOING THOSE. I REALLY THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO THIS THIS YEAR AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT WITH THE RESERVES THAT WE'VE GOT IN OTHER PLACES BECAUSE AGAIN WE ARE ASKING EVERYONE TO DO THIS AND IT WILL BE REALLY HARD. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DIP INTO THINGS I DIDN'T WANT TO DIP INTO BUT THAT IS WHAT I'M GOING TO LOOK AT. I THINK THE RTA FUNDS, THEY DO BUT PINNING ON WHO YOU GIVE TO, IF THERE IS A WAY TO CREATIVELY LOOK AT THOSE FUNDS THEY HAVE TO FALL WITHIN -YOU COULD ASK THEM POTENTIALLY FOR A WAIVER OF RESTRICTIONS. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS BUT GOT A GOOD ALAN THERE AND WE NEED TO USE THOSE FOR APPROPRIATE PROJECTS BUT I THINK IT COULD BE SOMETHING TO POTENTIALLY LOOK AT. I DON'T KNOW. WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT LATER.
>> COMMISSIONER: LET ME FINISH REALLY QUICK. IF YOU'RE ASKING US EACH INDIVIDUALLY WHAT THE BALANCES AND IF I CAN COVER IT I WILL GET INTO THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUND. BUT ALSO I CAN SEE IT BOTH WAYS. I AGREE. WORTHWHILE THIS IS NOT SOME SPECIAL PROJECT THEY ARE VERY SPECIFIC IN WHO THEY HELP. IF THEY CAN USE A SEPARATE REVENUE SOURCE AND IT HELPS THE OVERALL GENERAL BUDGET I DON'T MIND DOING THAT BUT THE THIRD PART IS, YES, WE NEED TO LEAD THE EXAMPLE HOW MUCH ARE THEY GOING TO CUT? I WANT TO BE PROPORTIONAL. IF WE WANT TO GIVE IT A NUMBER OURSELVES IF THAT NUMBER IS DOABLE AND CAN BE ACHIEVED BY ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, I DON'T MIND TAKING OUT 20 BUT IF THAT TAKES ME FROM 10 PERCENT OVERALL CUT TO A 15 AND WERE ONLY ASKING EVERYBODY TO DO 10 PERCENT THEN WE NEED TO LOOK AT HOW MUCH ARE WE ASKING? I DON'T MIND THE CONCEPT OF LET'S MAKE THE EXAMPLE THAT WE CAN. THINK THIS IS SOME OF THE WAY WE CAN MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE BECAUSE WE ARE IN VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS US AND THAT'S ABOUT IT. SO THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN. WHERE ARE WE AT PERCENTAGEWISE AND IF I HAVE A DISCRETIONARY FUND, A SPECIAL REVENUE THAT IS AVAILABLE WOULD SAY OVERALL I WOULD SUPPORT THAT CUT BEING MADE FOR THAT
>> COMMISSIONER: YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT. I THINK WE ALL
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NEED TO PURCHASE PAID IN THIS AND YOU ARE RIGHT. WE CAN ALL SAY WE WILL CUT THE WHOLE THING TO DO PERCENT AND THAT WILL SHOW THAT WE ARE CUTTING WHAT EVERYONE AGREED TO THE CUT THAT . WE CUT IT 50 PERCENT AND THEN WE DIG IN WHEREVER WE CAN DIG IN. YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT. JOE MAKES A GOOD POINT BUT WE HAVE TO SAY WERE GOING TO CUT IT 50 PERCENT THIS YEAR AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING ELSE WE HAVE TO DO, TO.>> COMMISSIONER: I THINK WITHIN REASON IF SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE THE FUNDING I GET THAT WE COULD MAKE AN EXCEPTION THAT EVERYONE CUT THE OUTSIDE AGENCY FUND AT LEAST FOR THIS YEAR AND IF EVERYONE HAS IT AVAILABLE THAT'S OUR CHOICE TO DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT THE PROGRAMS FUNDED OR NOT. I THINK WE DO NEED TO MAKE SOME CUTS AND WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WERE STARTING OFF THAT EXAMPLE RIGHT. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PLACES I WANT TO CUT INTO THE ASSISTANCE. IT'S PRETTY MUCH
ALL THAT WE COULD DO. >> GUEST SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER
I CAN PROVIDE- >> COMMISSIONER: IF YOU CAN COME BACK AND GIVE US THOSE NUMBERS CAN GET A FEEL FOR
EVERYONE ELSE. >> COMMISSIONER: I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING QUICKLY ABOUT THE CUTS THE EXAMPLES I APPRECIATE THAT BUT Y'ALL NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THE CUTS THAT YOU ARE MAKING THAT IS FROM YOUR SPECIAL REVENUE FUND SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO DO IN THE CUTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE MAKING OUR FOR OFFICE FUNCTION. BECAUSE WE ARE SERVING THE COMMUNITY. SO WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIAL REVENUE THAT WE CAN GIVE OUT THESE OUTSIDE AGENCIES. IT'S REALLY NOT THE
SAME BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOU. >> JUDGE: I ALSO WANT TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT WHILE I AGREE WITH ALL OF THAT AND WE HAVE SOME VERY NEEDY PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE VERY GOOD ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO SO MUCH FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND THAT BEING SAID AT SOME POINT WE ALL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE COUNTY BUDGET AS A WHOLE IN THE FUTURE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO START FOCUSING THE MAJORITY ON STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND TAKING CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES. THESE ARE GREAT THINGS. IT IS A HORRIBLE THING TO HAVE TO EVEN DISCUSS LIKE POSSIBLY CUTTING THESE EVEN FOR A YEAR BUT AT SOME POINT IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND TAKE CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND DO THE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING FOR THE COUNTY AS REPRESENTATIVES WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS, TOO. IF WE EVER HOPE TO INCREASE SALARIES OR DO THINGS THAT ARE COMPETITIVE.
>> COMMISSIONER: COULDN'T WE GO TO OUR FRIENDS AT THE PORT AND ASKED THEM TO YOU KNOW, HELP US OUT WITH SOME ITEMS IF WE NEEDED TO? WE COULD GO INDIVIDUALLY?
>> COMMISSIONER: D-MAIN JUST FOR THESE? I THINK TERESA WILL LOOK. SOME OF THESE A LOT OF US HAVE SPECIAL REVENUES. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THIS WITH THAT COMING BACK TO US WITH THOSE AMOUNTS WILL BE GOOD BEFORE WE ASK ANYBODY ELSE.
>> COMMISSIONER: WE HAVE MONEY IN THE SPECIAL REVENUE TO COVER ESPECIALLY IN HEALTHCARE. I THINK IT WOULD DO SO MUCH GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WE COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
>> JUDGE: I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH ANY OF THESE THEY ARE GREAT ORGANIZATIONS AND THEY DO GREAT THINGS FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND YOU WILL NOT GET AN ARGUMENT WITH THAT.
>> COMMISSIONER: I WILL WAIT FOR TERESA'S RESPONSE.
>> JUDGE: THE NEXT ITEM WE DID DISCUSS TRAVEL BUDGETS AND WE TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY ONLY FOR CONTINUING EDUCATION, FOR REQUIRED TRAVELS. I THINK ALL THE DEPARTMENTS COULD POSSIBLY CUT THEIR TRAVEL BUDGET SOMEWHAT.
>> COMMISSIONER: AGAIN I AGREE WITH THAT AND I LIKE TO SEE IF IT'S THE SAME KIND OF CONCEPT THAT JOHN WAS ARTICULATING.
THERE'S A LOT OF CONTINUING EDUCATION NOW ONLINE. YOU CAN DO MUCH ANYTHING THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER CAN'T THE JUDGE CAN WE DON'T HAVE A LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND AGAIN I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS BUT SOME OF THE TRAVEL THAT IS DONE I'D HAVE TO THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COLORADO AND ALL THESE PLACES AND I'M LIKE REALLY? THERE'S NOT A SESSION HERE AND SO, TO MEET WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SUSPENDING ALL TRAVEL, PERIOD AND YOU DO YOUR CONTINUING
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EDUCATION ONLINE. AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND OFFICIALS OF WHY IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR ONE YEAR THAT'S A BIG NUMBER. 306 TWO 1000? FAMILY PEOPLE DO NEED TO CUT TO GET TO THAT. IF THIS SAVES ME FROM CUTTING PEOPLE I SAY TRAVEL BUDGET CAN GO AWAY.>> GUEST SPEAKER: I HEAR YOUR REQUEST. HOW MANY WOULD THAT BE IF WE GO WITH THE LOWEST EMPLOYEES IT WOULD GO TO 80 TO
90 STAFF. >> JUDGE: AS HE SAID WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE DEPARTMENTS ON THEIR REQUIREMENTS. I DO THINK EVERY DEPARTMENT CAN PARTICIPATE IN THIS BECAUSE WHILE THERE MAY BE SOMEONE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE IT A STRICTER PERMISSION AND I KNOW NOW THEY COME BEFORE US AND A LOT OF THEM HAVE ALREADY TRAVELED. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS WE CAN DO TO CUT DOWN ON THAT AND I DON'T THINK THE WHOLE GROUP NEEDS TO GO MAYBE ONE PERSON THAT HAS TO BE TRAINED IN A SPECIFIC THING MAYBE GOES.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: AND AS YOU WERE SAYING CONTINUING EDUCATION IF IT'S NOT AVAILABLE ONLINE YOU SOUGHT TO TRAVEL.
IT'S SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO WORK THROUGH AND ANOTHER TRAVEL POLICY SAYS THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO COME THROUGH YOU AND SOMEONE SAYS FOR APPROVAL FOR TRAVEL SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW
THE POLICIES. >> COMMISSIONER: THAT'S WHAT WAS SO FRUSTRATING FOR ME AS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND I FIRST GOT ON IS THAT WE COULD NOT TAKE HOURS ONLINE WHICH WAS THE MOST RIDICULOUS THING ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS JUST WANTING TO MAKE MONEY AND SO THE LAW IS NOT CHANGED AND YOU PASS THIS RESOLUTION TO WHERE NO LONGER HAVE TO TRAVEL. AGAIN, SOME ARE BETTER IN PERSON AND I GET IT AND I GO TO ONE. BUT I WILL NOT GO TO ONE YEAR THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO DO TO DO THIS FOR A YEAR AND SAVE A PERSON. I THINK WE ARE JUST TALKING ONE YEAR AND WE CAN LOOK AT IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR AND SEE WHERE
WE ARE. >> GUEST SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER ON TRAVEL SOME DEPARTMENTS HAVE TO. GOING BETWEEN BANKS AND HERE AND THERE WE SOUGHT TO PAY MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENT TO THE COUNTY THERE'S STILL A SMALL AMOUNT.
>> COMMISSIONER: TRAVEL TO MEET IS NOT MILEAGE.
>> JUDGE: I THOUGHT THIS WAS IN CAR ALLOWANCE.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: SAME CATEGORY.
>> JUDGE: THE MILEAGE IS INCLUDED IN THIS. OKAY. MINUS
MILEAGE. >> COMMISSIONER: I GUESS THEY WILL GIVE US THAT NUMBER LATER. OKAY.
>> JUDGE: AND 37 ARE THE ANNUAL ALLOCATIONS OF 227. I KNOW SOME OF THESE ARE REQUIRED TO BE IN THEM.
>> COMMISSIONER: NO. >> JUDGE: NO? ANYBODY SEE
ANYTHING? WE ARE REQUIRED. >> COMMISSIONER: WE HAVE A
CONTRACT. >> GUEST SPEAKER: WE HAVE THE CONTRACT FOR THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS. THAT IS NOT THIS CONTRACT? IT IS SOMETHING ELSE?
>> COMMISSIONER: AND THEN, WHAT IS ST EMF ON THE SECOND CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE? >> JUDGE: SOUTH TEXAS MILITARY
TASK FORCE. >> COMMISSIONER: THAT IS A
TOUGH ONE. ANYBODY? >> COMMISSIONER: WE CANNOT CUT ANY OF THEM NOT ON THE CHAMBER . WE JUST CELEBRATED A VICTORY WHAT, LAST WEEK? NO TAX RATE INCREASE?
>> COMMISSIONER: BUT WHAT DID THEY DO FOR IT MAC TODHUNTER
DOES IT. I DON'T KNOW. >> COMMISSIONER: I GUESS WE COULD CALL THE CHAMBER APPEAR AND ASK WHAT DO YOU DO FOR US? THAT'S FINE I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. RIGHT?
>> COMMISSIONER: I AM ALL FOR MAKE SURE WE DON'T TWEAK IT
DOWN. >> COMMISSIONER: THE COG? WE GET MONEY AND WERE WAITING ON THOSE APPROVALS FOR THAT TO STAY. I THINK THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH TO BE SAID.
>> JUDGE: LET'S MOVE ON TO 38. >> COMMISSIONER: ARE WE GOING
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TO LEAVE 37 HANGING? >> JUDGE: WE NEED TO FIND OUT.
>> COMMISSIONER: [INDISCERNIBLE]
>> COMMISSIONER: ARE YOU SAYING -
>> COMMISSIONER: 38 AND 37. >> COMMISSIONER: THE OUTSIDE AGENCIES? IF WERE HOLDING THAT ONE BACK WE SHOULD HOLD THIS
ONE BACK. >> COMMISSIONER: WE SHOULD HOLD
THE OTHER ONES BACK, TOO. >> COMMISSIONER: I GUESS WE SHOULD MAKE INQUIRIES INTO ALL OF THESE AND SAY IF THE CONCEPT IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO CUT 35 MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT 37, TOO. LIKE YOU SAID I AM WITH JOHN I DON'T WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT DAMAGES THE MILITARY TASK FORCE BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE'S NO BASE CLOSURE GOING ON. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING ON THAT ONE. IF WE WANT TO GEAR UP WE CAN ALWAYS DO THAT LATER
I GUESS. >> COMMISSIONER: THE MEMBERSHIP
DUES 38? >> COMMISSIONER: I'M SORRY 30 7E HALO FLIGHT THAT WAS A DONATION TO HELP THE OPERATIONAL COST? DOES THAT HAVE ANY IMPACT?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: IT IS SEPARATE FROM THE COUNTIES CONTRACT. IT IS SEPARATE TO THEM.
>> COMMISSIONER: IT HAS NO CONNECTION? OKAY THAT'S MY QUESTION I DON'T DENY. I SUPPORTED IT AS ALL DID WHEN THAT FLIGHT WAS TO BE INCLUDED AS A BENEFIT TO THE EMPLOYEES.
IF THIS IS JUST AN EXTRA OUTSIDE COST WE DON'T WANT TO CUT ANYBODY. BUT I HAVE HAD SOME ITEMS LIKE DOWNTOWN MANAGEMENT DISTRICT OVER THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR THAT I FINANCED MYSELF THAT I FELT PASSIONATE ABOUT AND HAD THE ABILITIES TO DO SO. IT IS NOT MUCH BUT IF IT HAS NO BEARING ON OUR OVERALL BENEFITS THAT WE ARE PROVIDING TO THE EMPLOYEES THEN THAT WOULD BE ONE I WOULD SAY COULD BE CUT. I MEAN, IT HELPS EMERGENCY SERVICES. I DON'T SEE THE BENEFIT THERE.
>> JUDGE: I GUESS WE NEED MORE INFORMATION ON THOSE COMING
BACK. >> COMMISSIONER: NOW THAT WE HAVE THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE IS THAT DUPLICATION? I KNOW THEY DON'T DO THE EXACT SAME THINGS BUT -KEEP THOSE ON
THE LIST. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THE ACTUAL CONTRACT IS A RECAP OF WHAT'S IN THE CONTRACT.
>> JUDGE: THAT WOULD BE MAYBE ALSO HOW MANY SUBSCRIPTIONS WE HAVE ON THAT WESTLAW. I NOTE IT IS NOT ON THE LIST BUT TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY CUTTING DOWN THOSE . THOSE ARE PRETTY
EXPENSIVE. >> GUEST SPEAKER: WE'VE TALKED ALL THE COURTS AND THEY WOULD STILL LIKE THE COURTS TO NEGOTIATE THAT. THE LARGEST EXPENSE IS THE LAW LIBRARY ON THE FIFTH FLOOR. AND THAT IS WHERE IT'S ANYWHERE FROM $30-$50,000 PER YEAR. AND THAT COULD BE SOMETHING WE LOOK INTO, HOW BENEFICIAL IS THE LAW LIBRARY END RIGHT NOW IT IS IN A DEFICIT RIGHT NOW AND IT IS COSTING THE GENERAL FUND $25-$30,000 PER YEAR TO GET IT BACK TO LIFE. IT ONLY GAINS A
SMALL AMOUNT EVERY YEAR. >> GUEST SPEAKER: WHAT DOES
THAT ONE DO? >> COMMISSIONER: IT'S THE LAW LIBRARY IT'S NOT A GENERAL FUND.
>> COMMISSIONER: HEY DALE -I'M SORRY KEEP GOING ON THE LIST
EVER QUESTION FOR LATER. >> JUDGE: ARE WE MOVING FORWARD? DO WE NEED TO CHECK INTO THE ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP? THE 38? I KNOW THAT TACK IS ON THERE I KNOW WE CALL THEM QUITE A BIT. HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO CONTACT THEM FOR QUESTIONS OR
IS THIS MEMBERSHIP PAID FOR? >> COMMISSIONER: THINK THAT EVERYONE IS A MEMBER OF TACK, AREN'T THEY?
>> COMMISSIONER: THE FOUR MAIN ONES ARE B, F, G AND H. WE
DEAL WITH THAT ALL THE TIME. >> JUDGE: D AND G AND H? OH,
BE? >> GUEST SPEAKER: THE COASTAL BAY AND ESTUARY IS THE ONLY ONE WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM
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AND NEXT YEAR WILL BE YEAR FOR.>> JUDGE: INNOCENT ANNUAL 50,000?
>> COMMISSIONER: CAN WE CUT THAT IN HALF? IT'S A CONTRACT?
>> JUDGE: IS A 20 YEAR TERM CONTRACT.
>> COMMISSIONER: WHY IS THAT ON THE LIST?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: I WANTED TO INCLUDE THIS THIS IS IN THE BUDGET. IF WE ARE CUTTING THE BUDGET.
>> JUDGE: WE CAN'T CUT IT IF WE HAVE A CONTRACT THEN. YEAH.
>> COMMISSIONER: WHAT IF WE CAN?
>> JUDGE: WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE CONTRACT.
>> COMMISSIONER: WE CAN LOOK AT IT BUT IF YOU TALK ABOUT A GROUP, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHAT THEIR RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT IS, THAT ONE IS OKAY WITH ME. I AM HAPPY TO LOOK AT ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE SAVED THIS COUNTY A
LOT OF MONEY. >> JUDGE: 39 COUNTY ATTORNEY ADDITIONAL LEGAL FEES. IT IS? OKAY.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: IT IS ON 2022.
>> JUDGE: I THINK THAT COULD EVEN QUITE POSSIBLY BE HIGHER.
DIDN'T WE TALK ABOUT THAT IN OUR MEETINGS? THE CONTINGENCY LEGAL FEES. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ENOUGH COMING INTO NEXT
YEAR. IS THAT 21? >> GUEST SPEAKER: WE COULD COVER THIS BUT THIS LAST YEAR WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF THE OUTSIDE ATTORNEYS BROUGHT IN FOR A LOT OF ISSUES THAT MIGHT
NOT EVER HAVE AGAIN. >> JUDGE: DIDN'T WE TALK ABOUT THE 400 WOMEN IF ONE OF OUR SITUATIONS WOULD DEPLETE THAT ON THE CALENDAR WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD ADDITIONAL FUNDS AFTER
>> JUDGE: JUST AN FYI SO EVERYONE KNOWS THAT IS VERY LOW A VERY CONSERVATIVE NUMBER FOR LEGAL.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE LIABILITIES THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THIS. THIS IS THE DEPARTMENT OF THE ATTORNEY THAT THE MISSIONARIES COURT APPROVES VIA CONTRACTS AND THEN THEY ARE HIRED BY THE OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. AND SO, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WORKS, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WORKS WITH THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND THEY AGREE ON HIRING OUTSIDE COUNSEL AND IT COMES OUT OF 1285 SO IT'S NOT IN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY BUDGET IT IS IN THE 1285 BUDGET. IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE A COST CUT THEIR IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A JOINT ACTION TO BOTH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND COMMISSIONERS COURT.
CONSENSUS. JOINT CONSENSUS. >> JUDGE: ITEM NUMBER 40 FAMILY PROTECTION FEE ACCOUNT. THIS IS ANOTHER OPTION FOR TAKING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MONIES OUT FOR DOING THAT AND I THINK WE HAVE ALL TALKED ABOUT THAT ENOUGH AND TO WHERE THAT CAN COME FROM IT WOULD GO DOWN TO THE REGULAR AMOUNT NOT THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT THAT THEY PAID THIS YEAR. SO -
>> JUDGE: BACK TO YOU DALE. [LAUGHTER]
>> COMMISSIONER:: AT SOME POINT WE AS A COMMITTEE NEED TO SEND THINGS TO DALE AND WE WOULD NOT HEAR FROM OFFICIALS BUT THIS IS WHERE IT GETS DICEY WHERE EVERYONE IS GOING TO LOOK AT IF IT HAS TO HAPPEN WHERE WE LOOKING AT REDUCTION ENFORCEMENTS AND COST-CUTTING? THIS STUFF WE WENT THROUGH TODAY IT IS ALL GRAY AND FINE BUT IT DOES NOT GET US THERE BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION. SO THAT IS A THING, TO THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO UNLESS SOMEONE IS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT. THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO SEND THAT TO DALE SO HE KNOWS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AND HE CAN START. IF HE GETS TWO OR THREE OF US DOING THE SAME THING HE KNOWS THERE IS SUPPORT OF THAT AND UNLESS SOMEONE HAS A BETTER IDEA.
>> COMMISSIONER: I THINK I WAS PUTTING TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT WE HAD WORKING TO GET THE MONEY EVEN TO MEET THE $8 MILLION I THOUGHT IT WAS TWO AND THEN FIVE AND NOW IT'S 8 MILLION.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE LOOK BACK WE LOOK AT THE 1150 WAIVER
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AND THERE'S $5 MILLION IN THE 1150 WAIVER AND EVEN IF WE HAVE TO USE ALL OF THE $5 MILLION I REALLY DON'T CARE BUT IT'S GOING FOR A GOOD CAUSE. I KNOW THAT PROBABLY WE ARE GETTING MONEY - THAT HAS TO BE USED FOR THE HEALTH FUNDING. I THINKWERE GOING TO TRANSFER THAT. >> COMMISSIONER: DOES ALL OF IT
HAVE TO BE FOR INSURANCE? >> GUEST SPEAKER: HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT HAS BEEN SAID. THERE'S SEVERAL SETTLEMENTS THAT WE HAD MANY YEARS AGO WHERE TOBACCO COULD ONLY BE USED FOR CERTAIN THINGS AND THIS OPIOID MIGHT BE THE SAME THING GET IT CAN ONLY BE USED FOR CERTAIN THINGS. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT
THE FUNDS ARE BEING USED FOR. >> COMMISSIONER: THE OTHER INSURANCE FUNDS FROM THE HURRICANE, I THINK IT WAS HARVEY, THAT $10 MILLION. I THINK WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT $4 MILLION HAD BEEN USED ALREADY SO THERE WAS A BALANCE OF 6 MILLION. I DON'T KNOW AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING TO BUT CAN WE USE 3 MILLION OF THOSE DOLLARS ARE
YOU TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING? >> GUEST SPEAKER: THE COMMISSIONERS COURT VOTED YOU TOOK ACTION TO ALLOCATE IT TO DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND YOU CAN ALWAYS GO BACK AND TAKE THOSE
FUNDS AWAY. >> COMMISSIONER: AND THAT IS WHY IT IS A $6 MILLION BALANCE IT WAS 10?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: KNOW YOU HAVE ALLOCATED EVERYTHING IN FACT YOU OVER ALLOCATED AND YOU HAD TO COME BACK.
>> COMMISSIONER: IT'S ALL BEEN ALLOCATED AND TERESA HAD TO COME BACK AND HELP US FIX IT WITH THE AUDITOR.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: IT HAS ALL BEEN ALLOCATED TO THE PROJECTS COMMISSIONER, THE MONEY HAS NOT BEEN SPENT THAT THEY ARE ALL
ALLOCATED. >> COMMISSIONER: THOSE ARE A
ONE-TIME FEE. >> COMMISSIONER: THE DIFFERENCES WE ALLOCATED $1 MILLION FOR THIS PRECINCT OR WHATEVER I'M JUST THROWING A NUMBER OUT THERE AND WE PUT IN A PROJECT THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO USE NEXT YEAR TO GET MONEY BACK AND YOU SUBMIT MONEY AND TO US IT IS $8 MILLION RIGHT?
>> COMMISSIONER: IT'S ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED. ARE YOU TAKING
MONEY FROM THE PROJECT? >> COMMISSIONER: PLUS IT WOULD
BE- >> GUEST SPEAKER: FOR INSTANCE I BELIEVE $4 MILLION WENT TO THE HILLTOP PROJECT SO IF WE REMOVE THOSE FUNDS AND TAKE THEM BACK THE COMMISSIONER STILL NEEDS TO FIND 4 MILLION TO SUPPLANT THE 4 MILLION THAT WE PULLED OUT SO IT WILL TAKE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE READY
HAD. >> COMMISSIONER: PLUS IS ONE TIME AND THEN YOU HAVE TO FIND $10 MILLION FOR NEXT YEAR.
>> COMMISSIONER: THE OTHER BIG ONE IS THE ANIMAL CONTROL. ALL THE MONEY THERE IS NOT ALL ARPA FUNDS.
>> JUDGE: I THINK IT IS SEO NOT ARPA FUND. IT CANNOT BE USED
FOR THAT. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THERE IS A PORTION OF ANIMAL CONTROL IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OPERATING COST THAT IS FUNDED BY THE GENERAL FUND.
>> JUDGE: NO, HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDING. THEY ARE
CEOS AND THERE'S NONE OF THAT. >> GUEST SPEAKER: YOU CANNOT USE ACO FOR OPERATING COST IT HAS TO HAVE A FIXED ASSET TYPE OF STIPULATION. EACH SEO HAS A LIST OF ALLOWABLE USES.
>> COMMISSIONER: WHICH MONEY CAN WE USE?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE GENERAL COUNSEL PROJECT VALANCES WE CAN STILL USE FOR OPERATING COSTS.
IT IS GENERAL CAPITAL IT IS NOT CERTIFICATES IT'S JUST GENERAL
CAPITAL THOSE FUNDS CAME FROM. >> GUEST SPEAKER: ONE IS
ALLOCATED FROM- >> COMMISSIONER: HOW MUCH MONEY
IS THERE? >> GUEST SPEAKER: I WILL GIVE YOU THE BALANCE HERE OBVIOUSLY FOR GENERAL CAPITAL AND FOR
PROPAGATION. >> COMMISSIONER: DON'T USE THE CO . WE CAN'T USE THAT FOR OPERATING.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: I WILL GET YOU THE GENERAL CAPITAL BALANCE
ALSO. 1901. >> GUEST SPEAKER: IN 1901 WE HAVE THE ROGUE DISTRICT FOR AND THAT CANNOT BE USED.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: OKAY. >> COMMISSIONER: IT CAN BE FOR
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ROAD PROJECTS THAT YOU CAN SUPPLEMENT.>> COMMISSIONER: AND WE HAVE THE LAW LIBRARY. WE HAVE THE
RENT EVERY SINGLE YEAR. >> COMMISSIONER: THAT'S A DISCUSSION YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE GOOD THAT WOULD BE A VACATED SPACE AND USED FOR OTHER DEPARTMENT. YOU HAVE A POINT WOULD IT BE TRANSFERRED TO THE CURRENT LIBRARY OR WHAT WE DO WITH THE EMPLOYEE THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE?
>> COMMISSIONER: AT LEAST TWO. >> JUDGE: I THINK ONE IS A
VACANCY BUT THERE'S TWO. >> JUDGE: I THINK THERE ARE THREE TOTAL AND ONLY TO ACTIVELY IN THERE. IN THE LAW
LIBRARY. >> COMMISSIONER: THE OTHER ONE IS THE ROAD AND BRIDGE CAN WE DO THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW EVERY YEAR WE ALLOCATE MONEY TO THE ROAD AND BRIDGE AND I KNOW WE
DON'T USE ALL OF THAT. >> COMMISSIONER: THAT'S
CORRECT. >> GUEST SPEAKER: USUALLY WE DON'T TRANSFER 100 PERCENT OF THE BUDGET REQUESTS FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE HOWEVER THERE'S ONE REQUIREMENT WE HAVE BECAUSE JERRY SERVICES CANNOT BE PAID BY ROAD FUNDS. THEY HAD TO TRANSFER EVERY YEAR BALANCE OF WHAT THE INJURY SERVICES WERE FROM TWO YEARS BACK. IT WAS ALWAYS A FIXED COST TO REQUIRED TO BE TRANSFERRED . WE CANNOT SPEND THESE FUNDS OUT OF ROAD
FUNDS. >> GUEST SPEAKER: PUBLIC WORKS HAS ALREADY MET WITH ME. THEY WERE WILLING TO MAKE SOME CUTS WITH THE ROAD AND BRIDGE AND EQUIPMENT POSSIBLY IT WAS THEIR
DEPARTMENT. >> GUEST SPEAKER: IF YOU WANT TO MAKE CUTS WE CAN MAKE CUTS TO THE TRANSFERS, YES.
>> COMMISSIONER: -- THE $10 MILLION AWARD?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THE COASTAL PARKS AND SERVICES DO HAVE MONEY COMING IN THEY DO HAVE SOME TRANSFERS FROM GENERAL FUND I WORK WITH SCOTT CROSS TO SAY WHAT CAN WE HAVE BECAUSE THE FUND BALANCE, WHERE THE FUND BALANCE NEEDS TO BE AND WHERE DOES THAT TRANSFER? SO FOR THE PARKS WE CAN'T GET THIS 100 PERCENT PROVIDED BY GENERAL FUND. UNLESS WE MAKE BUDGET
CUTS WE CAN'T REDUCE IT. >> JUDGE: WHAT ABOUT COMMUNITY CENTERS? CAN WE CUT PERSONNEL AT THOSE?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THE COMMUNITIES ARE GENERAL FUND BUDGET 4190 OR WHATEVER THE DEPARTMENT IS THAT MAY BE A CASE WHERE DO WE NEED ALL OF THESE BUILDINGS OPEN ALL THE TIME? CAN WE CONSOLIDATE SOME BUILDINGS BUT THAT IS A COURT
DECISION. >> COMMISSIONER: THEY ONLY HAVE ONE PERSON AT EACH PLACE WHICH IS THE DIRECTOR AND THE DRIVER AND THE CLEANING GUY THAT GOES AND CLEANS. REALLY, THERE'S NOT A LOT. IT'S ONE PERSON BEING CUT FROM THE OPERATION.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THERE'S ALSO SOMEWHERE YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY SERVICE CENTER THAT HAS A SIGNIFICANT STAFF AND I'M NOT SAYING WE NEED CUTS BUT HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT.
>> JUDGE: THE OPEN POSITIONS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT HIM AT
TWO. >> COMMISSIONER: WE ALSO HAVE THE PIER. COULD WE GET THAT BACK?
>> COMMISSIONER: IT'S THE SAME THING IT'S A ONE-TIME THING.
>> COMMISSIONER: THIS IS $8 MILLION TO DEAL WITH.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: IT'S A CONTINUATION EVERY YEAR AND IT WILL BE A FACTOR OF IT. IF YOU FUND IT FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE NEXT YEAR YOU WILL HAVE THE SAME THING.
>> COMMISSIONER: WE WILL BE A BUDGET FOR THAT NEXT YEAR.
>> COMMISSIONER: IT FOR OPTIMISTIC THERE WILL BE.
>> COMMISSIONER: EVERYONE IS SAYING 20 AND YOU GOT EIGHT AND
THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE. >> COMMISSIONER: IT'S NOT EIGHT . IT'S EIGHT ACTUAL 25 IF WE DO BUDGET.
>> COMMISSIONER: IS EIGHT ACTUAL IF YOU DO BUDGET 25 MILLION. YOU CAN'T BUDGET. IT STILL $20 MILLION DEFICIT ON THIS BUDGET AND THAT NUMBER HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE LAST WEEK.
>> JUDGE: FOR YEARS. YOU CAN EXPECT IT TO BE THAT EVERY
YEAR. >> COMMISSIONER: WE TOTALED IT OUT TO THE SAVINGS. 5 MILLION SO NOW 25 BECOMES 20 AND 8 MILLION STILL BECOMES LOWER AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE FUND BALANCE AND THAT FUND BALANCE, OR GOING TO DO THREE TO $4 MILLION.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: TRUTHFULLY IF WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET INFORMATION WE WILL SAY THIS REVENUE THIS EXPENSE THE $25 MILLION DEFICIT IS A REDUCTION OF THE FUND BALANCE.
>> COMMISSIONER: RIGHT. >> COMMISSIONER: WERE TALKING
ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL. >> JUDGE: THAT'S THE RESERVE
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FROM THE BALANCED-BUDGET. >> COMMISSIONER: I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT EXTRA 20 FOUR USE THAT TO OFFSET THE 20 MILLION, AGAIN, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO FIND SOME WAYS, TO AND WERE TRYING TO FIND THOSE WAYS, TO.
>> JUDGE: WERE TRYING TO DO THAT NEXT YEAR AND THAT DOES
NOT GIVE US A TIME FOR THAT. >> COMMISSIONER: WE BROUGHT
THIS FORWARD. >> GUEST SPEAKER: IF YOU USE THE RESERVES AND SEE THIS THAT'S WHY THEY DROPPED THE RATING AGENCY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FROM AAA TO AA PLUS.
>> COMMISSIONER: THE RATING IS ONLY 22 BETWEEN.
>> COMMISSIONER: IF YOU ARE A 25 AND YOU FORCEFULLY DROP IT GUARANTEE THEY WILL THINK ABOUT DROPPING YOUR GREAT.
>> JUDGE: I THINK THE COMMISSIONER HAS A QUESTION.
GENERAL AND NOT SAYING I WANT TO CUT ANYWHERE SPECIFICALLY BUT WE ARE TALKING WE NEED TO MAKE CUTS AND TELLING THESE DEPARTMENT HEADS OR ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE THE CUT. WE REALLY NEED TO GIVE PARAMETERS AND AS MUCH CREATIVITY TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WHEREVER PRIORITIES ARE ALSO WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT HOW MANY FACILITIES DO WE OFFER FOR CERTAIN SERVICES AND SAY HOW MUCH DOES THAT COMPARE TO OTHER GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES? DO WE SAY WE HAVE TOO MANY PARKS OR NOT ENOUGH PARKS OR TOO MANY FACILITIES OR NOT ENOUGH? WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THAT ACCOUNTABILITY BECAUSE FOR US TO DO THAT HERE WITHOUT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS HERE, I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT AND IT WILL GET TO A VERY REACTIONARY POSITION THAT WILL PLACE OURSELVES IN THESE DEPARTMENT HEAD OFFICIALS PUT US INTO A POSITION WHERE WE SAY LET'S CUT THIS AND WE SAY WE DON'T WANT TO CUT THAT. I FEEL LIKE WE NEED SOME GUIDANCE. I DON'T KNOW IF WERE SUPPOSED TO GIVE IT TO OURSELVES IF YOU LIKE IN YEARS PAST WE HAD A GOOD GENERAL IDEA AND WHAT DIRECTION WE SHOULD GO AND WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS ARE BEING MADE AND I FEEL THAT WE ARE MOST JUST SPINNING OUR WHEELS. I WILL USE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE. IT'S NOT WHERE I WANT TO GO BUT LET'S JUST SAY OUR SENIOR AND COMMUNITY SERVICES BUILDINGS DO WE HAVE ENOUGH? DO WE HAVE TOO MANY? CAN WE CONSOLIDATE MAC NOT BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS ONE IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND THEIR TOWN BUT WE ARE IN DIRE STRAITS. AB WE ONLY HAVE FIVE EVIL THAT ATTEND ON A REGULAR BASIS AND MAYBE 20 SPECIAL EVENTS. I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE NUMBERS ARE ACCURATE BUT TO GIVE US AN EXAMPLE. THE SATELLITE OFFICES , OUR SATELLITE OFFICES FOR EVERY COUNTY SERVICE ARE THEY WORTH IT? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY UTILIZING THOSE SERVICES? ONCE AGAIN I'M NOT SAYING TO CUT THEM THE COMMISSIONER BROUGHT UP ANIMAL SERVICES AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED BUT I THOUGHT WE NEEDED A NEW BUILDING THAT IF THIS IS ONE TIME WHERE WE CAN SAVE SOME COST THEN LET'S DO IT BUT WHERE ARE WE GETTING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THAT DIRECTION FROM? ARE WE JUST DOING IT BECAUSE WE KNOW THOSE PRECINCTS IN OUR COUNTY SO WELL MAC OR IS THAT SUPPOSED TO GO ON SALE OR TERESA OR ON THE JUDGE? WHO IS IT THAT'S GOING TO HELP US GUIDE IT THROUGH? IN CONCEPT WE AGREE THERE SHOULD BE SOME CUTS BUT THAT'S WHERE THE POLITICAL PART COMES IN. AND NOW GIVE GUIDANCE TO STAFF AND ULTIMATELY THE FINAL BLOW. WE HAVE TO KNOW IS SOMEBODY OUT THERE SAYING WE NEED TO CUT THIS NEW ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY FOR NOW? CUT IT AND FIND SOMEONE ELSE. OKAY WE CAN DO THAT BUT FOR ME TO TELL YOU THAT I KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO HOLD ON AND TELL YOU.
I KNOW WHERE EVERY COMMISSIONER FOR THE PRECINCT IS AND IS THE JUDGE GOING TO HAVE TO BE A TIE VOTE FOR TWO PEOPLE AGREEING AND THEN MAYBE 1/3? I FEEL LIKE WHERE WE GOING TO GET THE DIRECTION THE GUIDANCE TO HELP US BECAUSE I FEEL THAT THERE ARE SOME SERVICES. IN A VIRTUALLY TALKING ABOUT CUTS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE NEED TO HAVE HARD DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW AND LET THE PUBLIC AND THE WHOLE WORLD KNOW ABOUT IT SO PEOPLE IF THEY FEEL STRONGLY ONE WAY OR AGAINST THEY ARE HERE SHARING THAT WITH US BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE ARE GETTING ANYWHERE. WE ARE BRINGING CONCEPTS TO CERTAIN AREAS BUT I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE KNOW DEFINITIVELY THIS IS WHERE
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WE SHOULD BE GOING. >> COMMISSIONER: I AGREE WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO CUT BACK CLOSE TO $1 MILLION AND THEN THAT WAS LAST FRIDAY.
>> JUDGE: THOSE WERE THE FUNDS.
>> COMMISSIONER: YOU CAN PUT THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE AND USE THE MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE RIGHT? BUT AT LEAST WE ARE CUTTING THIS BILL FROM ALMOST $1 MILLION, NINE OR THOUSAND DOLLARS AND AGAIN THIS IS GOING BACK TO THREE OR FOUR TABLES AND THERE WILL BE ROOM TO ADD ANOTHER TABLE IF YOU WANT TO.
BUT I THINK THAT BY NEXT WEEK BY THE END OF THIS WEEK REALLY SHOULD HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF HOW MUCH WILL BE ABLE TO CUT IN THE END. I AM IN THE SAME VOTE THAT YOU ARE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON AND SO WE CAN SAVE ALMOST $1 MILLION THERE ARE THE OTHER ONE THAT I THINK REALLY NEEDS ATTENTION IS THE FAIRGROUNDS. EVERY YEAR WE HAVE $1 MILLION FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS AND WE NEVER MAKE A PENNY. $1 MILLION TO THE FAIRGROUNDS AND WE NEVER MAKE A PENNY. SO YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE REALLY THE
BALLPARK. >> COMMISSIONER: IT IS 1,000,001 IF YOU ADD THE STADIUM. STADIUM AT THE FAIRGROUNDS. THE BALLPARK. THE BALLPARK IN
THE FAIRGROUNDS IS 1,000,001. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THIS BENEFITS THE FAIRGROUNDS 1 MILLION. THEY USE THE FULL 1.1 MILLION
IN THE STADIUM. >> GUEST SPEAKER: IT'S THE 1.1 THUS WHAT THEY USED TO OPERATE AND THEN THOSE FUNDS THE 1.1 IS SPLIT BETWEEN THE STADIUM AND THE FAIRGROUNDS ARE THE STADIUM IS 140 THE FAIRGROUNDS IS 141 THE STADIUM HAS BUDGETED EXPENSES OF 314,000 THE FAIRGROUNDS HAVE BUDGETED EXPENSES AND TRANSFERS OUT AND THEN THE FAIRGROUNDS HAS BUDGETED EXPENSES AND TRANSFERS OUT OF 1.2 MILLION.
>> COMMISSIONER: THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
>> COMMISSIONER: THAT'S GENERAL FUND AND THE OTHER THINGS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE NOT GENERAL FUND. THE OFFICE IN THE ANIMAL SHELTER IT CANNOT BE. IT CANNOT AND YOU'RE GOING TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AGAIN. IF YOU MOVE IT TO THE ROOF IN OTHER WORDS WE HAVE A BIG ROOF DEFICIT IF YOU MOVE MONEY TO THE ROOF THAT IS AN APPLICABLE USE IS A ONE-TIME DEAL. IF YOU MOVE THAT MONEY TO THE GENERAL FUND IT DOES US NO GOOD. IT MEANS NEXT YEAR WE WILL HAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARSIN THE DEFICIT NEXT YEAR, TOO. WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE FAIRGROUNDS THAT'S GENERAL FUND MONEY IF YOU WANT TO GO INTO THAT SITUATION AND TALK ABOUT TEARING DOWN THE STADIUM AND CALLING IT A DAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF THAT'S NOT BEING USED THAT'S MONEY THAT GOES AWAY THAT IS GENERAL FUND SAVINGS 100 PERCENT THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP THOSE SEPARATE BECAUSE IT DOES NOT DO US ANY GOOD TO TAKE IT FROM THE CAPITAL PROJECT BECAUSE HAVE TO FIND IT NEXT YEAR AND I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN. WE HAVE TO MAKE A TOUGH DECISION THIS YEAR AND GET ON WITH IT BECAUSE WE SPENT COLLECTIVELY LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF HOURS ALL OF US IN THIS ROOM IN EVERY ROOM WE WORKED ON THIS BUDGET AND WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE IT ALL STARTED IN AGAIN I'M GOING TO SAY HOW BADLY THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT QUED ON THIS PROJECT. THE 2.5 OR WHATEVER I DON'T KNOW HOW IN THE WORLD THAT OPERATE. AT THE END OF THE DAY WE'VE GOT TO KEEP IT SEPARATE BETWEEN CAPITAL PROJECTS AND GENERAL FUND PROJECTS.
>> JUDGE: THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ABOUT, COMMISSIONER MAREZ I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID AND IT IS DIFFICULT. THIS BEING AN UNPRECEDENTED YEAR FOR THE COUNTY WITH ALL THE BUDGET CHALLENGES YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH IN THE PAST I THINK MY RESPONSE TO THAT WOULD BE THAT WE, THIS COURT HAS GOT TO EACH OF US HAVE TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND GET RID OF OUR POLITICAL IDEAS AND DECISIONS
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AND COME TO THE COURT WHETHER PRECINCT NUMBER 2 DOES IT PRECINCT NUMBER 4 DOESN'T WHATEVER AND WITH THESE PROJECTS COME TOGETHER AND TAKE AWAY A LITTLE BIT WHERE WE ARE ALL WORKING TOGETHER I THINK THIS IS A TIME FOR US TO STAND UP AND BE LEADERS AND SHOW THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER IS NECESSARY. THIS IS SUCH A LARGE AMOUNT IT CANNOT COME FROM ONE. IT HAS TO BE FULL PARTICIPATION TO ALL OF US HERE IN THAT MEANS MAKING HARD DECISIONS AND POSSIBLY CUTTING OUT SOME THINGS THAT ARE NOT STATUTORILY REQUIRED BECAUSE WE DO HAVE REQUIREMENT THAT THE COUNTY IS SUPPOSED TO DO WE HAVE TO BRING THEM FORWARD AND WE HAVE TO PUT AWAY OUR DIFFERENCES. WHEN SOMEONE COMES AND TALKS ABOUT THE PIER YOU HAVE TAKE YOUR GUARD DOWN AND KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO MOVE FORWARD. IF SOMEONE TALKS ABOUT THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE HAVE TO LET OUR GUARD DOWN IF WE CAN CUT 1 MILLION AND THAT YOUR PRECINCT AND THAT GOES TOWARDS A ROOF OR SOMETHING WE CAN TAKE CARE OF BUT NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUND FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WE ARE CERTAIN THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE SAME BUDGET THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. WE CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE WE WILL HAVE A STORM I THINK THE PARACHUTE THAT IS ON THE ROOF RIGHT NOW I'VE BEEN TOLD BY JUAN THAT IT IS FAILING IN ONE CORNER THAT'S A REQUIREMENT FOR EACH OF US TO TAKE CARE OF OUR BUILDINGS. SO COMING TOGETHER, COMING UP IN YOUR OWN PRECINCT AND AT LEAST COMING UP WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT MOVING FORWARD THAT IS GOING TO TAKE US. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE TOLD TO US BY THE AUDITOR OR SOMETHING IT SHOULD BE US TAKING A STEP FORWARD IN TAKING THAT LEADERSHIP ROLE AND SHOWING THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO THIS YEAR AND THIS IS WHAT WE WILL PROBABLY BE DOING FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS SO WE NEED TO BE THE LEADERS THAT WE ARE RELUCTANT TO BE.>> COMMISSIONER: IF YOU TALK ABOUT POLITICS AND BASED ON THE PARTIES THAT I RUN AS HIM SAYING NEED TO MAKE CUTS AND LOOK AT THIS. THERE'S NO SEPARATE ACCOUNT. THAT SHOULD BE ON NOTICE FOR EVERYONE AND THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. WE NEED AND JUDGE I KNOW YOU WILL HELP GUIDE US. BEFORE WE LEAVE HERE TODAY NEED TO SAY THIS IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT FROM ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS. NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES CUT OR PHYSICIANS OR VEHICLES OR SOMETHING TANGIBLE THAT WE CAN KNOW. WHAT IS EVERYONE RINGING TO THE PLAY ARE BRINGING HERE FOR DISCUSSIONS? MAYBE BY THURSDAY JUDGE I LIKE TO SEE THAT EVERYONE, ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WOULD HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO LOOK AT THEIR NUMBERS AND COME FORWARD AND OFFER A DISCUSSION.
IT IS NOT FINALIZED. IT'S NOT A DONE DEAL. WE STILL HAVE TO LOOK IT OVER BUT SOME IDEA OF HOW TO MAKE SACRIFICES BECAUSE I AGREE. WERE ALL GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SACRIFICES FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE AT LEAST AT THE RATE WE ARE GOING. LIKE I SAID, IS THERE ANY KIND OF EXTRA FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE
THAT WE HAVE TO CUT? >> JUDGE: IN ORDER TO TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. EVERYBODY COME OVER WE CAN PUT A LIFT ON THE LEFTOVER ARPA FUNDS AND THAT WON'T TAKE CARE OF THE BUDGET PROBLEM, EITHER. KEEP US IN MIND THIS IS KEEPING US FROM HAVING TO PAY FOR THIS OURSELVES. THIS IS NOT THE 8 MILLION THAT WERE TALKING ABOUT FROM THE CUTS FROM THE DEPARTMENT.
>> COMMISSIONER: JUDGE THAT BEING SAID WE NEED TO DO THE BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND TAXPAYERS AND SPEND MONEY WISELY. HOW DO WE SPEND $300,000 ON A PARK NOT BEING
USED? IS THIS MAINTENANCE? >> JUDGE: WHAT PARK IS THAT?
>> COMMISSIONER: THE BALLPARK. YES. THE BALLPARK IS BEING MANAGED BY INLAND PARKS. I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT MOWING, CUTTING GRASS, RE-SAUT?ING THE FIELD.
>> COMMISSIONER: ALL OF THIS IS DONE IN-HOUSE. IF NO ONE USES
IT. >> COMMISSIONER: THESE ARE FOR
INLAND PARKS TO SPEAK TOWARDS. >> JUDGE: THEY ARE NOT HERE.
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>> COMMISSIONER: IS HE ON? >> GUEST SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER WE DID COUNSEL THE DEPARTMENT HEAD BRIEFINGS BUT I THINK NOW WE NEED THEIR INPUT BETWEEN NOW AND THE DECISIONS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE. WE CAN SCHEDULE THE DEPARTMENT BRIEFINGS BETWEEN NOW AND THURSDAY AND SEE IF WE CAN COME TO COURT ON THURSDAY WITH THEIR CUTS AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS SOME THINGS LIKE TOO MANY PARKS OR JUST GET THERE OPINION ON THINGS. I
ALSO NEED TO HEAR FROM THEM. >> COMMISSIONER: I ALSO WANT TO ASK IS THERE A WAY TO UTILIZE FAIRGROUND FACILITIES TO MOVE WAREHOUSE PEOPLE OR IS THAT TOO FAR FROM THE SPACE?
>> JUDGE: WE HAD THAT SAME IDEA. WE ARE CHECKING INTO THAT TO SAY BUT WE ALSO REALIZE THAT BUILDING A FACILITY OUT THERE WILL ALSO BE A GOOD IDEA. IT JUST DEPENDED ON THE EVENTS THAT THEY HAVE THEIR. SOMETIMES EDWARDS HAS TO MOVE THINGS THEY HAVE STORED THERE BECAUSE AFTER UTILIZE A BE ONE OR TWO EVENTS PER YEAR THE UTILIZE THE ENTIRE BUILDING WITH THAT BEING SAID THE ONES THAT THEY DO WILL BE THE YOUTH ORGANIZATION WITH JUNIOR LIVESTOCK SHOW. I'M NOT SURE WE WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THAT BUT IT MAY BE A ONE YEAR DEAL,
TOO. >> COMMISSIONER: IF WE HAVE SOME LAND WE CAN USE THE BUOY CAN BUILD IT.
>> JUDGE: BUILDING OUR OWN INCENTIVE PAYING THE THREE AND $1000 A YEAR COULD PAY FOR SOMETHING.
>> COMMISSIONER: I AGREE. >> COMMISSIONER: FOR ALL THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE LEAKING WITH GROUNDWATER AND NO AIR
CONDITIONING? >> JUDGE: WHAT IS THAT? NOT INCLUDING THE VACANT APARTMENTS IF THEY CUT 10 PERCENT DO WE HAVE A NUMBER FOR WHAT THAT WILL BE?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: IT'S NOT EASY TO SAY IF EVERY APARTMENT CAN CUT 5 TO 10 PERCENT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT
REDUCING THE STAFF. >> COMMISSIONER: YOU HAVE CAUGHT THE CONSTITUTIONAL AND NON-. IT'S A WHOLE NEW WORLD AND I'M GUILTY OF THAT BECAUSE WE DID THIS FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO AND WE DID THIS ACROSS THE BOARD THING AND IT WAS NOT EQUITABLE BECAUSE - IF YOU LIVE YOU LEARN AND IF YOU COME BACK WE HAVE TO REVISE IT BUT CONSTITUTIONAL STATUTORY VERSUS THE REST OF THE WORLD AND SO IT CANNOT BE PAID CONSTITUTIONAL STATUTORY YOU ARE PAYING SOMEONE ELSE BECAUSE SOME OF THESE DEPARTMENTS YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE. I GET IT, IT'S
TOUGH TO SAY. >> JUDGE: THAT WILL BE ANOTHER DISCUSSION FOR THIS. WE HAVE LOOKED INTO SOME OF THAT AND WE ASK THAT ORIGINALLY IN THE EARLY BUDGET MEETINGS AND
THINGS. >> COMMISSIONER: LET'S SAY, TOO, THERE'S A LOT OF CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICES THAT HAVE OPENINGS SO LET'S REMEMBER THAT. RIGHT? THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICES HAVE OPENINGS AND IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO CUT THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY COULD JUMP TO ANOTHER OFFICE IN THE COUNTY THAT HAS OPENINGS THAT HAVE TO KEEP OPEN HAVE TO DO. LESSER MEMBER THAT AND GET THOSE MESSAGES OUT. NOT TO HAVE SOMEONE BAIL ON THE OFFICES BUT THE REALITY IS THE
REALITY OF THIS. >> COMMISSIONER: YOU COULD HAVE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL WHO CAN SAY I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP THE BUDGETED POSITION BECAUSE THEN I HAVE TO FIGHT TO GET IT BACK I AGREE TO FREEZE IT AND NOT FILL IT FOR A YEAR. IT IS THE SAME BUDGETARY EFFECT OF CUTTING A POSITION WITHOUT ACTUALLY GIVING IT UP. SO SHOULD THERE COME A TIME WHERE WE ARE NOT FIGHTING A $20 MILLION DEFICIT AND BUDGET THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO REFILL THAT POSITION.
>> COMMISSIONER: WE HAVE TO, JUDGE, PRESS ON THESE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS WHO HAVEN'T YET TO SEND THOSE THINGS TO US IN WRITING BEFORE WE MEET ON THURSDAY.
>> JUDGE: LISA HAS ASKED SO WE ARE PRETTY CLEAR.
>> COMMISSIONER: TO BE FAIR WE GET IT WE ARE ON A TIGHT TIMEFRAME WE ARE ALL SCREWED ON THE DEAL AND I'M SORRY I KEEP USING THAT WORD BUT WE ARE SORRY TO BE DOING IT SO FAST BUT IT'S FAST FOR US, TOO. WE HAVE A LOT OF TIME CUT OUT FOR THIS. IT'S NOT JUST YOU ALSO US BUT IF THEY DON'T RESPOND WERE GOING TO DO IT FOR YOU AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT TO DO WE WANT TO DO IT WITH YOU YOU ARE OUR PARTNERS AND WE WANT INPUT BUT IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE US ANYTHING HAVE TO GO WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME SO PLEASE, PLEASE, SEND IT TO THEM ONE MORE TIME IF THEY DON'T HAVE IT BEGGED TO THEM PLEAD WITH THEM AND IF THEY DON'T GIVE US INPUT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SEND THAT, JUDGE BUT
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SOMEBODY HAS TO GET THE WORD OUT TO WHOEVER HAS NOT RESPONDED TO THAT AND AGAIN I KNOW IT IS A TIGHT TIMEFRAMEAND THEY ARE BUSY. SORRY. >> JUDGE: I AGREE AND I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY THE NONSTATUTORY DEPARTMENT PROBABLY NEED TO BE AT THE TOP OF OUR LIST FIRST, YES? AND WHAT WE CAN DO EVEN MORE. TERESA DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: DO YOU ALL WANT THE DEPARTMENTS TO COME?
>> JUDGE: WE WANT TO GET THEIR STUFF FIRST AND THEN WE MAY ASK THEM TO COME ESPECIALLY THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BIGGER CUTS IN. THURSDAY WILL NOT BE TIME FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO COME IN HERE BUT IF THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CUTS WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM ELECTED, FOR SURE.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THEY CAN ALWAYS POP ON ZOOM TO HAVE A
DISCUSSION. >> JUDGE: IT WOULD HAVE TO BE
THE NEXT WEEK. >> COMMISSIONER: IF THEY ARE IN THE OUTLYING AREAS THEY COULD JUST POP ON ZOOM.
>> JUDGE: THE OTHER STUFF, TAKING CARE OF SOME THINGS THAT HAPPENED LIKE WE SAID THEY WILL POP UP AND COST THE COUNTY MONEY IF WE NEED TO COME UP WITH THOSE NUMBERS. MR. GONZALES AS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT, I THINK THOSE SHOULD BE ADDRESSED AS WELL AND THEY WILL HAVE TO BE UNALLOCATED AND REALLOCATED TO GO ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.
MAYBE ON THE 23RD IF YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THOSE .
THEY WILL HAVE TO BE DONE QUICKLY. IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING SHOULD PROBABLY PUT THOSE ON THE 23RD AGENDA.
>> COMMISSIONER: WE FIND OUT HOW MUCH?
>> JUDGE: YES WHERE ELSE DO WE NEED TO GO ON THIS?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: WE WILL REACH OUT TO THE DEPARTMENTS AND GET THEIR INFORMATION AND SEE WHAT THEY PROPOSED COST-CUTTING WISE BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY MIGHT HAVE IT A CUT ON SOMETHING THAT IS STILL AN INCREASE. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT IS A TRUE CUT.
>> JUDGE: I FORGOT TO ASK I HAVE A NOTE HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DOES MANAGEMENT HAVE? DARRELL WAS HERE IN MINUTE AGO.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: HE IS ON ZOOM .
>> JUDGE: RECORDS MANAGEMENT I JUST WENT OVER THERE FOR THE FIRST TIME. HE MIGHT NOT BE PAYING ATTENTION.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: DALES GOT IT.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: 1470. >> JUDGE: IS GOING TO A TRANSFER AND A LOT OF THE ONLINE MIB GOING TO A POLICY THAT WE NEED TO BRING TO COURT. THEY HAVE SIX EMPLOYEES?
>> COMMISSIONER: WHAT IS THE BUDGET FOR RECORDS?
>> JUDGE: DARRELL IS AN MUTED IF HE WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING
SORRY, DARRELL, >> GUEST SPEAKER: DARRELL?
>> COMMISSIONER: YES. >> JUDGE: DO YOU HAVE SIX EMPLOYEES AT THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT DIVISION?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES, THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO BUDGET AT RECORDS MANAGEMENT AND I'M SORRY I WAS TIED UP ON THE PHONE SO I MISSED Y'ALL'S CONVERSATION BUT I WAS WORKING ON AN EMAIL TO SEND TO LISA BECAUSE SHE DID NOT SEND ME ANYTHING ON 31 OR ZERO. AS TO THEIR BUDGETS BESIDES THE 14.
>> JUDGE: IN RECORDS MANAGEMENT ? THERE STILL ONLY SIX PEOPLE
WORKING IN RECORDS MANAGEMENT? >> COMMISSIONER: YES. IF THUS THE 1470 BUDGET THAT WOULD BE THE CASE.
>> COMMISSIONER: DO YOU HAVE TEMPS OVER THERE?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: HE HAS TEMPS BUDGETED BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU.
LET'S LOOK AT THE ACTUALS TO SEE WHAT THEY SPENT.
>> COMMISSIONER: DARRELL WHAT TEMPS DO YOU HAVE?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: WHAT? >> GUEST SPEAKER: TEMPORARY
EMPLOYEES. >> GUEST SPEAKER: I DON'T KNOW.
I WOULD HAVE TO RUN IT. >> JUDGE: THAT'S OKAY WE WILL WAIT TO GET THE REPORTS AND FROM THE DEPARTMENT. I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT IF THEY ARE SCANNING AND KEEPING A LOT OF THOSE. WHEN I WAS OVER THERE THERE WAS A PROBLEM BECAUSE SOME OF THE FILES THEY CANNOT GET RID OF AND DISPOSE OF. SOME OF THEM ARE MANY,
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MANY YEARS OLD BECAUSE THE ELECTED OFFICIAL AS WELL DOES NOT WANT THEM TO GO AWAY. WE CAN'T KEEP BUILDING BIGGER AND BIGGER AND BIGGER BUILDINGS. WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH THAT.THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A RETENTION SCHEDULE THAT SOME FILES ARE 30 YEARS OLD. THEY ARE TRYING TO FIND THE ELECTED OFFICIAL TO ALLOW THEM TO DISPOSE OF THEM. FILES THAT ARE UNDER BELOW 1950 I UNDERSTAND ARE CALLED THE HISTORICAL FILES AND WE CAN'T GET RID OF THOSE AS WELL. I THINK BEFORE WE GO INTO BUILDING IF THAT'S A FUTURE THING YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE IF ARE GOING INTO SCANNING AND HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE WHERE THE INDIVIDUAL DOES NOT HAVE TO GO TRACK DOWN AN ELECTED OFFICIAL TO GIVE THEM PERMISSION FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE.
THE SHREDDING, WE ALSO HAVE CHANGED. WE CANCELED THOSE CONTRACTS. SO, THE WAREHOUSE RECORDS RETENTION IS GOING TO DO OUR SHREDDING NOW, TOO. KEEP THAT IN MIND BEFORE WE GO CUTTING EMPLOYEES THERE AS WELL.
>> COMMISSIONER: RIGHT NOW WE DON'T SHOW ANY TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES FOR 70. WE DON'T. FOR RECORDS MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT. WE DON'T SHOW ANY TEMPORARY AT THE MOMENT. THE OTHER ONE CONSIDERED THE CONTRACT IS NOT A TEMPORARY
EMPLOYEE. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THERE'S NOTE TEMPORARY EMPLOYEE AT THE RECORDS WAREHOUSE FOR THE TEMPORARY BUDGET CAN BE COMPLETELY SLASHED AS WELL.
THERE ARE SIX PERMANENT EMPLOYEES OVER THERE AND I WOULD RECOMMEND KEEPING BECAUSE WE ARE TAKING THAT ON AND THEY DO A LOT IN THAT WAREHOUSE AND IN THE COURSE OF THE WAREHOUSE ITSELF WE HAVE TO ADDRESS IT WITH RECORDS MANAGEMENT. I THINK THERE'S A LOT THAT'S BEEN DESTROYED AND BEYOND RETENTION . WE COULD GET THAT REDUCED. THERE'S A LOT OF PLAY.
>> COMMISSIONER: IS THERE A TEMPORARY BUDGET OVER THERE
NOW? >> GUEST SPEAKER: A TEMPORARY BUDGET OF 36,000. IN DEPARTMENT 1470 I DID SEND DEPARTMENT FOR 70S BUDGET TO DARRELL AND HE CAN CHOOSE TO
REQUEST THAT. >> COMMISSIONER: THAT IS GONE.
HE SAID HE ALREADY REQUESTED IT.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: YOU ALREADY SUBMITTED IT BACK, DARRELL?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. WE'VE ALSO GOT A SPREADSHEET FROM PERSONNEL THAT JUST CAME IN EARLIER TODAY IN FACT THAT'S ON THE 1240 BUDGET 1370 AND 0131 OVER THERE. I'M ALSO LOOKING AT A REDUCTION IN THE 0131 BECAUSE OF THE DOCUMENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. WE ARE WAITING FOR AN ESTIMATED QUOTE FROM THEM TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF LICENSES FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR AND THEN WE WILL BUILD IT OUT IN SHAREPOINT AND GET THAT BACK TO RECORDS MANAGEMENT. IT IS COMPLETELY
0131. >> GUEST SPEAKER: IS A CHANT TRANSFER FROM GENERAL FUNDS. AND WE CAN HAVE THAT TRANSFER AND NOT HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE GENERAL FUND.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: WE DID TRANSFER THAT. EVERY YEAR
THAT'S CORRECT. >> JUDGE: WE NEED TO SEND A REMINDER OUT TO ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS BECAUSE YOUR ORIGINAL EMAIL SAID TURN IT IN BY TUESDAY SO WE WILL ALL GET IT TOMORROW SOMETIME BY THE CLOSE OF BUSINESS TOMORROW?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: I HOPE. FOR THE NORMAL BUDGETARY REQUESTS I GIVE THEM A MONTH AND I AM STILL PULLING FINGERNAILS TRYING TO GET THEM COMFORTABLE.
>> JUDGE: THIS IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF YEAR WE HAVE PROPOSED SO MUCH WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO REALLY.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: Y'ALL TAKE $30,000 FROM A SPECIAL FUND AND TRANSFER IT TO THE RECORDS WAREHOUSE AND THE ONLY THING THAT WILL DO FOR US TO MANAGE OUR OWN RECORDS AND ALL THEY DO IS PICK THEM UP AND DID IT ON A SHELF AND WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE STRAIGHT AGAIN WE LET THEM KNOW TO DESTROY THEM AND WE HAVE TO
PAY $30,000. >> JUDGE: HOW LONG DO YOU KEEP
YOUR RECORDS? >> GUEST SPEAKER: IT VARIES IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE RECORDS. FOR NOW IT'S 12 MONTHS IT COULD BE 18 MONTHS SOME OF THEM ARE SIX MONTHS IT JUST DEPENDS.
>> JUDGE: WHY ARE THEY TELLING ME OVER THERE THAT WE HAVE A RECORDS RETENTION COUNTY, THE POLICY WE ALREADY VOTED ON SO WHY ARE THEY TELLING ME THAT THEY CAN'T DESTROY THOSE
DOCUMENTS? >> GUEST R: SOME OF THOSE RECORDS HAVE NOT BEEN SCANNED IN BUT I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE DOING IS THE CO-FILE.
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>> GUEST SPEAKER: THE CO-FILE IS DOING THAT. WE DON'T STAND
FOR THAT, DEWEY? >> JUDGE: WE CAN GET DARRELL ON
THE. >> COMMISSIONER: Y'ALL QUIT TAKING MY MONEY. B3 IT WOULD BE ANOTHER 30,000 THAT THE GENERAL FUND HAS TO FIND BECAUSE IT'S GOING FROM COUNTY CLERK RECORDS MANAGEMENT TO THE GENERAL FUND 1470.
>> COMMISSIONER: JUDGE I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST MAYBE WE CAN DO A LOT OF IN-HOUSE WORK THAT WE ARE CONTRACTING OUT.
>> JUDGE: I HAVE THOUGHT THE SAME THING I'VE MET WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO START TO CUT BACK ON OTHER ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES THAT AREN'T PAID FOR FROM A SPECIFIC FUND LIKE OUR PUP OR CDBG. IF THE PROJECT FUNDS ITSELF.
>> COMMISSIONER: I KNOW IN THE PAST AND WORKED AT THE OLD COURTHOUSE AND WE WERE SHORT IN STAFF INCENTIVE THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT WE WOULD GO AND HIRE THROUGH CONTRACT LABOR IN CARPENTER, A PLUMBER, SOMEONE TO PAY AN HOURLY RATE FOR THE COUNTY INSTEAD OF THE COMPANY.
>> JUDGE: I THINK WE CAN'T BUT MY GUESS IT GOES TO THE BUDGET IN THAT DEPARTMENT AND THAT WOULD BE UP TO THAT DEPARTMENT HOW THEY CAN SAVE AND CUT BACK.
>> COMMISSIONER: I THINK EVEN THE MAIDEN, I THINK SOMEONE PUT OUT SOMETHING WITH THAT $500,000 SAVINGS WE PUT THE MONEY BACK INTO THE COUNTY AND WE GET RID OF THE CONTRACT.
>> JUDGE: ON WHICH ONE? >> COMMISSIONER: THE MAIDEN, IN
PLANNING? >> JUDGE: I MET WITH JUAN AND HE SAID IT WOULD ALSO PUT BACK WITH THE COST OF THE PURCHASE OF THE EQUIPMENT AND IT MAY NOT BE AS BENEFICIAL AS IT SOUNDS AT FIRST. IF WE HAD IT IN THE FUTURE I DID TALK TO THE JANITORIAL SERVICES, THE PROVIDER THAT SENT US A CONTRACT AND SHE WAS GOING TO WORK ON A CHEAPER RATE BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION WE ARE IN IT MIGHT NOT BE IN EVERYDAY CLEANING. IT MIGHT COME BACK ON THE AMOUNT OF SERVICES IN EACH OFFICE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF YOUR OWN STUFF BUT I THINK THAT IS JUST A GIVEN. NO MATTER WHICH ROUTE WE GO WHETHER PUBLIC WORKS TAKES IT OR WE CUT BACK ON OUR CONTRACT WERE GOING TO ALL BE DOING A LOT OF CLEANING.
>> COMMISSIONER: I DON'T MAKE A MESS. JUST KIDDING.
>> JUDGE: I THINK ASHLEY WOULD SAY OTHERWISE.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: SO, DALE, TO BE FAIR, FOR ANY OF US TO HAVE A LOOKSEE ON THURSDAY DEPARTMENT HEAD OFFICIALS WILL HAVE TO SUBMIT SOMETHING BY END OF DAY TUESDAY SO YOU CAN PUT IT ALL IN AND SAY HERE ARE SOME SUGGESTED CUT FROM THESE DEPARTMENT AND SAY NOW HERE IS WHERE WE ARE AND AGAIN AN EMAIL GOES OUT TO WHOEVER I WOULD SUGGEST THE COUNTY JUDGE SAY HEY, WE NEED THIS BY END OF DAY TOMORROW. SORRY IT IS SO TIGHT BUT IF WE DON'T GET THE SUGGESTED CUT IT'S NOT GOING TO GIVE THE AUDITORS TIME TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS BY THURSDAY. WE HAVE TO SET UP ANOTHER TIME FOR OUR BUDGET WORKSHOPS. GOING TO HAVE TO JAM A LOT OF TIME AND FROM NOW UNTIL THE 13TH THAT WE DID NOT DO THIS SUMMER BECAUSE WE DID NOT KNOW WHERE WE WERE.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: WE NEED TO DO A PROPOSED TAX CUT NEXT WEEK.
>> JUDGE: WE HAVE TO PROPOSE THAT NEXT WEEK?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES. IF YOU ARE GOING ABOVE THE VOTER TAX RATE YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION ABOVE THE VOTER APPROVED TAX RATE WHICH I KNOW WE AREN'T GOING TO O. THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS YOU HAVE TO PROPOSE A RATE BY THE STATE BECAUSE YOU WOULD NEED TO INITIATE AN ELECTION.
>> COMMISSIONER: JUDGE, IF THE COURTS ARE AMENABLE TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING BEFORE THURSDAY. GO FIGURE I AM ASKING FOR ANOTHER MEETING BUT WHATEVER. IT IS A NEW DAY. IT IS A BAD NEW DAY BUT IT IS A NEW DAY.
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>> GUEST SPEAKER: I'M GOING TO ASK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR THEIR OPINION ON THIS. FOR NOW GOING TO SUSPEND THE
CONTINUANCE. >> COMMISSIONER: WHAT?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: SUSPEND THE CONTINUANCE OF SALARY INCREASE FOR THREE YEARS. I'M TAKING THAT MONEY OUT UNTIL I HEAR ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. I WILL SHOW YOU BOTH WAYS. IT'S NOT A
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT IS STILL. >> COMMISSIONER: I AGREE.
>> COMMISSIONER: IS JUST GOING TO SHOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: I WILL SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT FOR THREE YEARS. IF DOING IT FOR ONE WE HAVE TO DO IT FOR THREE. SORRY. I WILL DO IT THIS. IF WE INCLUDED AND IF WE DON'T INCLUDE IT AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW WHAT'S BEING AMENDED AND WHAT CAME OUT.
>> COMMISSIONER: FOR THE BUDGET WORKSHOP WE HAVE ONE THURSDAY AND WERE GOING TO DO ONE MONDAY AND THEN FINALIZE EVERYTHING BY WEDNESDAY IN THE COMMISSIONERS COURT NEXT WEEK. SORRY.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: WE WILL HAVE THE HEARINGS LIKE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND THEN ON THE WEDNESDAY THAT'S REQUIRED WILL COME TO YOU ALL AND YOU ALL SAY THESE ARE OUR PROPOSAL RATES.
WHATEVER THE COURT WANTS TO DO HERE WE WON'T DO ANYTHING ABOVE THAT AND IF WE DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. WE WILL MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION HERE IT IS AND IT'S ONLY THE CEILING.
WE CAN'T GO ANY HIGHER THAN THIS OR THIS AND WE WILL SAY THIS IS WHAT IT IS AND ONCE WE KNOW THIS MY STAFF AND I KNOW HOW TO START PREPARING THE BUDGET TOGETHER WITH A PROPOSAL THAT REQUIRED TO BE FILED ON THE SEVENTH, RIGHT?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES. WE ARE FILING THE PROPOSED BUDGET BY SEPTEMBER 8. AND THEN WE ARE ADOPTING BUT THE TAX RATE AND THE BUDGET ON SEPTEMBER 13. WE HAVE TO ADOPT ON THE 13TH IN ORDER FOR THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR TO SEND OUT HIS NOTICES. HOWEVER, I BELIEVE HE SAID VERBALLY THAT THOSE NOTICES MIGHT GO OUT LATE THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND WHAT'S GOING ON THERE TAX RATE. THAT WAS JUST A VERBAL HOW IT WOULD GO IT'S NOT FOR SURE.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: IF IT'S NOT IN ON THAT DATE HAS TO BE A COURT APPROVED DATE AND THAT HAS TO BE A WEDNESDAY.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: IT HAS TO BE A REGULAR COMMISSIONERS COURT IT CANNOT BE A SPECIAL MEETING.
>> COMMISSIONER: DO WE ANTICIPATE MONDAY BEING A LONG
DRAWN OUT ONE, MAYBE? >> GUEST SPEAKER: IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH WE GET ACCOMPLISHED IF THE DEPARTMENT IS GIVING INFORMATION TO US AND BY THE TIME THE NEXT BUDGET WORKSHOP, IF WE HAD TIME TO GO THROUGH THIS IN-DEPTH TO SAY THIS IS WHAT IS DONE AND THIS IS WHERE WE ARE THAT DOES NOT REACH THE LEVEL WE WANT TO AND IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING WE GET MAYBE US AND MORE AND MAYBE ON THE NEXT MONDAY WE SAY THIS IS WHAT THEY DID AND Y'ALL DECIDE FOR US TO DO IT OR ARE WE ASKING THEM AGAIN AND ON MONDAY WE SAY THIS IS WHAT WE DID AND WHY WE DID IT. IT MAY NOT BE - IT MAY BE SHORT. IT MAY BE VERY LONG IF WE GO THROUGH EACH DEPARTMENT SEPARATELY.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: I HAVE MANY DEPARTMENTS ASKING FOR A PERCENTAGE. A GOTTEN THAT EMAIL MAYBE 12 TIMES FROM 12 DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT HEADS IN INDOOR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND I KEEP SAYING IT'S NOT A PERCENTAGE, IT'S WHAT YOU CAN DO THAT THEY WERE WANTING SOME KIND OF GUIDANCE FROM THE
COURT. >> COMMISSIONER: THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING EARLIER OR THEY HAVE TO GIVE US SOME NUMBER.
>> JUDGE: OR A RANGE. WE WERE HOPING FOR THIS.
>> JUDGE: MAYBE FIVE TO 10 PERCENT NON-STATUTORY OR MORE.
I THINK IT HAS TO BE HIGHER. >> COMMISSIONER: WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE? TUESDAY. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TAX RATE IT WILL BE BUT WHAT IS THE RANGE? NEEDS TO BE 20 MILLION. IF YOU
SAY 20. >> GUEST SPEAKER: IF WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP AND WE GO UP TO SAY OUR BUDGETED EXPENSES ARE $120 MILLION 10 PERCENT IS 12 MILLION.
>> COMMISSIONER: RIGHT BUT FOR THE BUDGET WE HAVE TO CUT 20?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: 10 TO 20 PERCENT WILL BRING YOU 15
MILLION. >> GUEST SPEAKER: IT IS SUGGESTED FOR DEPARTMENTS AND EVEN MORE SO.
>> COMMISSIONER: 5 TO 10? WHAT THE JUDGE SAID WAS RIGHT
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STATUTORY /CONSTITUTIONAL SHOULD BE LESS THAN NONSTATUTORY CONSTITUTIONAL SO SOMEONE WANTS TO DISCUSS A RANGE WE CAN GIVE THEM A RANGE.>> JUDGE: WHAT SHOULD WE GIVE THEM?
>> COMMISSIONER: I WOULD GO ANYWHERE 10 TO 15 MAYBE
STATUTORY AND 1020 FOR NOT. >> COMMISSIONER: 15 TO 20?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: YEAH. >> COMMISSIONER: ARE
CONSTITUTIONAL /STATUTORY? >> GUEST SPEAKER: WE CAN START THERE AND SEE WHERE IT GETS US.
>> JUDGE: AND THEN WE COME BACK TO THAT ON MONDAY.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: IF THERE, A 4 INSTANCE, BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT AND NOT PICKING ON IT HE SAID IT WAS 1 MILLION AND IF THE COURT SAYS WE WILL TAKE THAT OFF AND IF YOU ARE ALREADY 1/10 OF THE WAY THERE.
>> JUDGE: WE CAN'T TAKE THAT OVERNIGHT AND SHUT THEM DOWN.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING
THAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT. >> COMMISSIONER: HOW MUCH DOES GLOBAL SPECTRUM GET PAID PER YEAR? WHAT'S THEIR CONTRACT?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: I'M GOING TO DEFER TO TERESA FOR THAT ONE.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: FOR OPERATING $800,000.
>> COMMISSIONER: WHAT IS THEIR FEE?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THEIR MANAGEMENT FEE? THEY HAVE TWO FEES. MANAGEMENT IS 50 K AND WON 10 IS THE OTHER. THEY HAVE
TWO. >> COMMISSIONER: WE PAY THEM ABOUT 150 PER YEAR? IF YOU TAKE THAT AWAY FROM THE MANAGER HAVE TO PAY THE MANAGER AND THE GLOBAL SPECTRUM PART OF IT, YOU CAN'T JUST, AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO WATCH YOUR EXAMPLES. YOU CAN'T JUST SAY LET'S TAKE AWAY THAT 1 MILLION HAD NO OFFENSE YOUR EXAMPLE SOMETIMES REALLY BAD BECAUSE IT'S LIKE SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO SHUT DOWN THE FAIRGROUNDS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL HAVE TO DO TO TAKE AWAY THAT 1 MILLION 30 HAVE TO SHUT
DOWN THE FAIRGROUNDS. >> COMMISSIONER: THEN YOU WILL LOSE MORE REVENUE BECAUSE YOU SHUT DOWN THE FAIRGROUNDS.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: WE CAN LOOK AT THIS A FEW THINGS. THAT'S WHY I GOT THE BOOK OUT RIGHT NOW THE FAIRGROUND HAS ANYWHERE FROM 300 TO $500,000 FUND BALANCE AND YOU CAN CUT DOWN AND TRANSFER THAT TO USE THE FUND BALANCE AND THIS YEAR WE CAN USE THAT DIFFERENCE IF YOU SO CHOOSE.
>> JUDGE: WE ARE DOING THAT ANYWAY.
>> COMMISSIONER: YOU ARE DOING IT JUST LIKE YOU ARE DOING
HOURS. >> GUEST SPEAKER: IT'S BEEN GOING UP EVERY YEAR FOR A FEW YEARS.
>> COMMISSIONER: EVERYBODY'S FUND BALANCES ARE SUPPOSED TO GO UP THAT'S THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK IN THE COUNTY EVERYBODY'S FUND BALANCE IS SUPPOSED TO GO UP. WE CAN TAKE THEM FROM EVERYWHERE AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO BE SCREWED. I AM SORRY IN THE HOLE AGAIN BECAUSE OUR FUND BALANCES WILL
INCREASE. >> JUDGE: IS NOT AN ACTUAL FUND BALANCE WE ARE GIVING THEM 1.3 MILLION EVERY YEAR.
>> COMMISSIONER: IS JUST PART OF THE POLITICS.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THERE IS NO STATUTORY REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE A FAIRGROUND HAS EVEN. HE COULD USE IT JUST FOR THE JUNIOR LIVESTOCK SHOW AND HAVE IT AT A BARE MINIMUM FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR JUST TO KEEP THE BUILDING FUNCTIONAL.
>> COMMISSIONER: WE ARE OFF THE TRACK AGAIN BECAUSE OF YOUR EXAMPLE THE QUESTION WAS WHAT IS YOUR RANGE? YOU CAN DO IT WITH 10 OTHER DEPARTMENTS. NO OFFENSE BUT YOU'RE GETTING US OFF TRACK WITH THESE EXAMPLES AND I'M TRYING TO STAY ON TRACK. THE TRACK WAS DALE HAD MADE THE SUGGESTION ON THE RANGE. THE EXAMPLE YOU COULD BE BRINGING UP HIS 10 MORE DEPARTMENTS WITH THE LIBRARY AND SOCIAL SERVICES, BLOCK, BLOCK, WE ARE NOT DOING IT TODAY. MY NEXT QUESTION IS I WANT TO UNDERSTAND ON THESE TAX RATE CALCULATIONS, THE GENERAL FUND CALCULATIONS IS TO FOR 9836. THAT HAS NOT BEEN
CHANGED, CORRECT? >> GUEST SPEAKER: CORRECT.
>> COMMISSIONER: WHAT IS OUR TAX RATE RIGHT NOW IS A COUNTY?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THE ADOPTED TAX RATE DO YOU WANT GENERAL
FUNDS OR TOTAL? >> COMMISSIONER: I WANT THE GENERAL FUND TAX RATE ON PAGE P2. THAT IS WHAT I AM ASKING.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: P5 THE PRIOR YEAR 2023 TAX RATE IS .246 159 IS THE GENERAL FUND. THE TOTAL RATE THAT INCLUDES YOUR DEBT SERVICE IN YOUR FARM TO MARKET IS .291659. THERE'S NO WAY.
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>> COMMISSIONER: LET ME ASK MY QUESTIONS. WHAT IS THE TOTAL CURRENT TAX RATE PROJECTED BASED ON WHAT IT WOULD GO DOWN TO IF IT WAS NO NEW TAX RATE OR 3.5? THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING
TO COMPARE TO. >> GUEST SPEAKER: VOTER APPROVED IS .25755 A DECREASE OF POINT 05 THAT'S THE TOTAL.
THE GENERAL FUND IS .212. >> COMMISSIONER: THAT IS THE VOTER APPROVED. WHAT IS THE OTHER ONE?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: IS RIGHT THERE. PAGE P5.
>> COMMISSIONER: JUST READ IT. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THE GENERAL
FUND IS .199. >> COMMISSIONER: NO. HOLD ON.
DALE. 29 IS OUR TOTAL RATE THAT'S THE VOTER APPROVED PROJECTED WORK RATE WHAT THE NEXT ONE? SPIETH REVENUE TAX.
>> COMMISSIONER: THAT'S ALL I WANTED THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WHAT THIS SHOWS IS, EITHER WAY IF EVERYBODY NOTICES THIS, THE TAX RATE WILL GO DOWN WHETHER WE VOTE TO RAISE TAXES OR NOT, SIGNIFICANTLY. BECAUSE OF ALL OF THIS STUFF IT IS AN AMAZING SITUATION. SO, THOSE NUMBERS ARE BIG NUMBERS. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I AM DONE.
>> COMMISSIONER: I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT MINE. JUST THE WAY YOU ALL HAVE IT ON D1 AS AN EXAMPLE. SO, UNDER FEES OF OFFICE AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN DONE THIS WAY OR HOW LONG I'M NOT SURE BUT THE COUNTY CLERK COLLECTION DIVISION IT IS A BIT MISLEADING BECAUSE IT REALLY SHOULD BE THE COUNTY COURT IN THE DISTRICT COURT. THOSE ARE THEIR FEES. WE COLLECT THEM BUT WE ALSO COLLECT FOR THE JP AND THE DAS OFFICE AND THAT IS NOT LISTED. RIGHT? IT SHOULD BE COUNTY COURT AND DISTRICT
COURT COMBINED. >> GUEST SPEAKER: NEVERMIND TAKE THE COUNTY COURT OUT OF IT BECAUSE IS JUST COUNTY COURT AND DISTRICT OORT. AND WHETHER OR NOT I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WANT TO BREAK DOWN ANY FURTHER WITH JP AND CONSTABLE. SHOULD BE UP TO Y'ALL BUT AGAIN IT SHOULD BE NAMED AND YOU ALSO HAVE ON THEIR THE FEES ESTIMATED AT 140,000. YOU DID THE LAST BUDGET CYCLE OR THEY HAVE NEVER COLLECTED THAT MUCH.
WHEN UNDER 40,000. IN THEN YOU HAVE IT AGAIN. I WOULD
CONSIDER - >> GUEST SPEAKER: ARE YOU
LOOKING AT 21. >> GUEST SPEAKER: NO, THE FEES
OF OFFICE. IF YOU LOOK AT D1. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THANKS, I CLOSED MY BOOK. 1596 86. IT IS VERY LOW THIS YEAR SO I WOULD RECOMMEND NOT PUTTING 140.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: IT CAN BE REDUCED.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: ALSO PAGE. THE FINES AND FORFEITURES WHERE IT SAYS COUNTY CLERK COLLECTION IT NEEDS TO SAY COUNTY COURT AND DISTRICT COURT. BREAK IT DOWN BY COURT AND THAT IS UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS HOW Y'ALL WANT IT BUT IT'S NOT. AND ALSO, WHAT Y'ALL BUDGETED WAS LAST YEAR 190,000 AND THAT IS WAY OVER. EVEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT HISTORICALLY EVERYTHING STARTED GOING DOWN IN 2016. HISTORICALLY. OH YEAH, COLLECTIONS. JUST SOMETHING TO BE AWARE OF.
>> JUDGE: I GUESS WE ARE READY WITH DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD TO THURSDAY'S MEETING WITH A NOTICE TO GO OUT TO EACH OF THESE NON-STATUTORY AND STATUTORY DEPARTMENTS AND
ELECTED OFFICIALS. >> JUDGE: IS THERE ANY OTHER
DISCUSSION? >> COMMISSIONER: SHOULD WE SAY THEN SINCE THE RANGE IS 10 TO 15 FOR STATUTORY CONSTITUTIONAL AND 15 TO 20 FOR NON-IF THEY DON'T SUBMIT ARE YOU GOING TO PLUG SOMETHING IN AND PUT IT IN YOUR CALCULATIONS? OTHERWISE
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WE WON'T COME IN WITH THAT INFO. WE HAVE IT PLUGGED IN.>> GUEST SPEAKER: I WILL LET YOU KNOW WHAT DEPARTMENTS HAVE SUBMITTED AND THEN MY STAFF AND I WILL DO THE BEST WE CAN TO DETERMINE WHAT CAN AND CAN'T BE CUT AND IF WE HAVE TO WILL DO
IT THEN. >> COMMISSIONER: MEANING IF YOU DON'T GET SOMETHING FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEAD WITH THE CUTS YOU WILL PUT IT IN MANUALLY YOUR SELF? THURSDAY, IF THIS ALL GETS DONE CORRECTLY BETWEEN NOW AND THEN THIS BUDGET DEFICIT NUMBER SHOULD CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY ON THURSDAY.
WITH THE CUTS. >> GUEST SPEAKER: YES.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THE EARLIER THE DEPARTMENT CAN PROVIDE THOSE NUMBERS TO US THE BETTER.
>> COMMISSIONER: I AM DOING MINE NOW.
>> JUDGE: IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? DO WE HAVE ADJOURNMENTS? I AM SORRY. TERESA, YES MA'AM?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: MONDAY IS THE BUDGET WORKSHOP?
>> JUDGE: YES. WE HAVE TO POST ONE FOR MONDAY.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: INCLUDING DEPARTMENT HEADS?
>> COMMISSIONER: YES. AND, WHAT WE WILL ALSO DO IS MAKE SURE DEPARTMENTS HAVE PUT IN SOME SALARY ADJUSTMENTS OR WHATEVER FOR THE REDUCTIONS AND I WILL LOOK AT WHAT THEY ALREADY SUBMITTED SOME OF THOSE REDUCTIONS I WILL INCLUDE THOSE BECAUSE THEY ARE REDUCING NUMBERS AND IF THEY ARE NOT THEY WILL NOT BE INCLUDED IN OUR NEED TO WORK WITH Y'ALL SEPARATELY TO FIND OUT HOW WE WANT TO DO THE MEE OFFICE .
WHAT STATUE AND NUMBERS DO WE PUT IN FOR THE TWO? AND, WHAT
ARE THOSE NUMBERS? >> GUEST SPEAKER: WE WILL HAVE A MEETING WITH THAT CHANGE COMING INTO PLACE.
>> JUDGE: ON THURSDAY WE WANTED THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO BE THERE WE JUST POSTED THAT THIS MORNING. IS IT TOO LATE TO ADD ANYTHING BECAUSE OF THE TIMEFRAME?
>> COMMISSIONER: WHAT DID WE SAY MONDAY AT 9:00?
>> JUDGE: YES. >> COMMISSIONER: YOU CAN HAVE
WHOEVER YOU WANT. >> GUEST SPEAKER: WE HAVE IS SCHEDULED CAN THEY COME ON ZOOM?
>> JUDGE: WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT POSTED. LIKE DARRELL WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THEIR. CARA AND WHOEVER, WE HAVE ASKED QUESTIONS DID WE DON'T NEED TO POST ANYTHING TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT THEIR POSITION. NOW, DO WE HAVE ANY ADJOURNMENTS IN MEMORY? THERE BEING NONE, I WILL EXCEPT A MOTION TO ADJOURN. WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN AND A SECOND . ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. TH
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.