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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

[D. ANNOUNCEMENT ON DISCLOSURE OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST: Any Conflicts of Interest or Appearance of a Conflict of Interest with items on this agenda shall be declared at this time. Members with conflicts will refrain from voting and are asked to refrain from discussion on such items. Conflicts discovered later in the meeting shall be disclosed at that time.]

[E. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]

[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]

[D. Authorize payment of bills - Special Motions Regular list ;Special Motions List - Lockwood Andrews & Newnam and Special Motions List - American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) dated June 21, 2023.]

[1. Discuss and consider approval of interlocal agreement between City of Corpus Christi, County of Nueces, and City of Driscoll related to consolidated emergency dispatch center services (MetroCom).]

[2. Discuss and consider amending Nueces County Property Assessed Clean Energy (PACE) Program Report and the corresponding forms to update the model program documents to allow participants with United States Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) and/or Federal Housing Administration (FHA) multifamily housing projects to utilize the Nueces County PACE Program.]

[3. Discuss and consider appointing Nueces County committee to negotiate a proposed licensing agreement with Yoby Park related to potential modification and licensing of the ballpark at the Richard M. Borchard Regional Fairgrounds, and related matters.]

[4. Discuss and consider approval of request for a Dune Protection Permit for the removal and replacement of an existing Dune Walkover (DPP-04012023-DW) at Admirals Row - Mustang Island, Nueces County, Texas.]

[5. Discuss and consider approval of request for a Dune Protection Permit DPP 202304-04 for mitigation of violation at 7213 SH 361, Corpus Christi, Nueces County, Texas.]

[6. Discuss and consider authorizing request for funding for $2,313,000.00 from the Nueces County Hospital District for Public Health services and activities for Fiscal Year 2023-24.]

[7. Discuss and consider approving the Charity Care funding release of $1,956,147.25 deposited to Nueces County from the Texas Health and Human Services Commission (HHSC) according to the Corpus Christi Nueces County Public Health District Cooperative agreement amended in 2022.]

[8. Discuss and consider approval of Hagerty Consulting, Inc., outstanding invoices for Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA), and any related matters.]

[9. Discuss and consider method of procurement RFP (request for proposals) for Employee Benefits Management and Consulting Services; authorize the Purchasing Agent to publish a notice; and adopt an Order delegating evaluation authority to a selection committee.]

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KNOWLEDGE OF THE INSURANCE? CLERKS THERE ARE COMMITTEE

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MEMBERS THAT MIGHT HAVE ÃÃ >> I'M FINE WITH MR. CELINE.

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>> I HAVE SIGNIFICANT EXPERIENCE WITH BENEFIT PLANS.

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> ARE NOT BEING MEAN THE OTHER TWO DON'T.

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THAT MEANS IT ALL FALLS ON YOU. I DON'T KNOW WHO ON THE

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COMMITTEE I THINK THE HR DIRECTOR IS GREAT AND IS NOT

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SURE THE CORRECT COMMITTEE FOR THIS IS THE COUNTY MANAGER AND

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THE AUDITOR BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THAT EXPERTISE.

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>> WE KNOW ABOUT IT, WE DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS.

WE RELY WHEN WE HAVE QUESTIONS I RELY ON TAX.

WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, IT'S A GREAT RESOURCE.

>> UNFORTUNATELY THE POLICY WE HAVE IN PLACE I THINK IS A BAD POLICY. I'M GONNA SAY IT WAS A BAD POLICY. THE INTENT WAS TO TRY TO REMOVE THE POLITICS BUT I'M NOT SAYING LIKE I WANT ANOTHER MEETING LIKE I WANT ANOTHER HOLE IN THE HEAD.

I'M NOT SAYING I WANT TO BE THERE.

CC ISD, JUDGE NEIL, JUDGE GONZALES AND NOW JUDGE SCOTT, WE NEED I THINK SOMEBODY AT THAT LEVEL, COULD BE ANOTHER DEPARTMENT HAD MAYBE I DON'T WANT TO VOLUNTEER BUT SOMEONE LIKE THAT AT EYE LEVEL THAT MANAGES A LOT OF EMPLOYEES THAT MIGHT BE GET IT. THIS BECOMES A LITTLE BIT SUBJECTIVE BUT IT'S PRETTY MUCH YES OR NO.

ARE YOU ONE PERSON FIRM OR +1. THERE IS NOT TOO MUCH GIVE TO

IT. >> I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH THAT. THIS IS A HARD ONE BECAUSE TO ME IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S ONE OR 10 OR NINE, IT IS SUCH A DIFFERENT ANIMAL THAT I THINK IT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE ON THE SCORING IF YOU DON'T HAVE GOOD KNOWLEDGE OF THE INSURANCE AND HOW THEY ARE GOING TO DO THINGS.

I THINK THIS IS VERY SPECIALIZED AND I REALLY HAVE A HARD TIME WITH NOT PUTTING THE RIGHT MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE ON THIS. MICHAEL CAN FACILITATE BUT HE

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CAN'T SCORE. >> HE WILL HELP THEM COME UP

WITH GOOD GUIDANCE.>> WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT, HE

REALLY IS NOT æ >> I WOULD ONLY BE THERE TO

ANSWER FACTUAL QUESTIONS. >> YOU ARE TELLING ME THE GRADING RUBRICS WILL COME FROM THE COMMITTEE ITSELF?

>> WE'VE BEEN IN THAT MODE SINCE DECEMBER WITH PURCHASING.

EVERY RFP WE BROUGHT BEFORE THE COURT, PURCHASING HAS HAD NO

VOTE ON ANY OF THOSE. >> HOW DO YOU EVEN COME UP WITH

THE RUBRIC? >> WE WERE FORTUNATE TO RECEIVE A COPY OF OTHER PROPOSALS DRAFTED BY CC ISD WE MIGHT PULL OTHER ONES FROM DIFFERENT COUNTIES.

>> DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SOMEONE FROM THE COUNTY? CAN WE PUT SOMEONE WHAT COULD WE ASK SOMEBODY FROM CC ISD TO HELP US WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT HAS EXPERTISE.

>> I THINK WE CAN RECEIVE EXPERT GUIDANCE TO PARTICIPATE SIT IN AND REVIEW THE MATERIALS AND PROVIDE ADVICE LIKE WE'VE DONE WHEN WE HAVE COMPLEX ENGINEERING PROJECTS AND HAD ENGINEERS SIT ON THE MEETING BUT IT WAS COUNTY OFFICIALS

RESPONSIBLE TO SUPPLY THE VOTE. >> IS THERE ANYTHING THAT SAYS WE CAN'T GO OUTSIDE AND ASKING IF THAT'S LIKE A RULE OR LAW BECAUSE I'M JUST TELLING YOU I'M GOING TO NEED A LOT OF HELP ON THIS AND I DON'T THINK THIS ONE IS EASY.

>> IT'S NOT EASY IT'S VERY MULTIFACETED.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT PURCHASING RECEIVES FROM THIS PERSON BUT THERE'S A TON OF THINGS THAT GOES ON BETWEEN THAT INDIVIDUAL AND SAY INDIVIDUALS IN THE COUNTY, EMPLOYEES THAT NEED HELP WITH PARTICULAR CLAIMS, THE HR OFFICE DOES A LOT OF WORK WITH THEM.

THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AS WELL AND THE FINANCIAL SIDE IT'S A HUGE TASK AND THIS PERSON IS RESPONSIBLE TO EVALUATE ALL THE POTENTIAL BIDDERS THAT WE GET OR DIFFERENT HEALTH SERVICES SO WE WANT SOMEONE WHO IS IN EXPERIENCE.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO WANT TO BE A GUINEA PIG WITH SOMEBODY

BRAND-NEW. >> I CAN TELL YOU HOW IT WAS DONE YEARS PASSED AND MAYBE THIS IS OBSOLETE BUT YEARS PAST IT WAS MR. RUN FIELD FROM THE AUDITORS SONNY JOHNSON FROM PURCHASING. AND THEN THERE WAS ONE DEPARTMENT HEAD AND ONE EMPLOYEE.

THAT WOULD DO THIS. WOULD GET FEEDBACK FROM THE EMPLOYEES AS WELL. I THINK HAVING A DATER WOULD BE KNOWLEDGEABLE BECAUSE YOU GOTTA HAVE GOOD COMMON SENSE TO BEGIN WITH. JUST LIKE YOU ARE BUYING INSURANCE FOR YOURSELF. YOU WANT THE BEST WHAT IS BEST FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. WHY NOT CONSIDER COUNTY EMPLOYEES IS YOUR FAMILY AND TRY TO GET THE BEST THING FOR THEM. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONERS, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE A DISASTROUS THIRD PARTY SUCH AS EMPLOYMENT LAW ATTORNEY ÃÃ JUST INTERESTED THIRD PARTY SUCH AS EMPLOYEE LAW ATTORNEY, TO BE OUR GUIDE AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE OF THE PLANS WE

ENROLL IN CAN COVER OUR EEDS. >> LIKE THE COMMISSIONER WAS SAYING WE NEED SOMEBODY WHO FEELS AS THOUGH WE NEED SOMEBODY THAT THEY ARE DIRECT USER OF THE INSURANCE I THINK WE CAN MAKE IT A ROBUST PLAN EVENTUALLY ONCE WE GET IN.

>> I WOULD SUGGEST ALTERNATIVELY AS WELL THE COURT DOES NOT HAVE TO DELEGATE THIS AUTHORITY TO THE ELECTION COMMITTEE.> THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO NEED A LOT OF HELP.

>> JUST IN TERMS OF WHAT I'M THINKING OF IS IF THERE IS MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS AND YOU WANT TO ACTUALLY HEAR FROM THEM AND GET A FEELING FOR WHO WE ARE SIGNING UP FOR BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE AND YOU WON'T HAVE Ã ¦

>> BEFORE MAYBE WHEN JUST NEIL WAS HERE WE USED TO DO THAT OR THEY WOULD COME BEFORE US THE TWO OR THREE THAT WERE INTERESTED AND TELL US WHAT KIND OF PLAN THEY WOULD HAVE, WHAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE. WE HEARD IT FROM ALL THREE OF

THEM. >> WE DON'T HAVE TO DELEGATE WE

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COULD JUST PUT IT OUT AND DO IT OURSELVES AND THEN MAYBE THEN WE BRING IN MR. SILVIUS AS A REFERENCE AND MAYBE THE LAWYER BUT MAYBE NOT WE COULD DO IT WITH JUST HIM ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS AND THAT'S NOT A BAD IDEA.

I THINK I JUST DON'T I DON'T STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE A LOT OF HELP IT'S GOING TO UNDER REQUIRE A LOT OF HELP. MAYBE WE JUST DON'T DELEGATE.

IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA FOR NOW MAYBE WHEN WE GO OUT FOR THE

RFP. >> CAN WE CHANGE THE POLICY TO INCLUDE MAYBE SAY THE JUDGE I WOULD THINK.

>> IF WE ALL DO IT WHAT WOULD BE THE PROBLEM JUST DELEGATE WE DON'T DELEGATE IT'S ALL OF US. WE GET THE PROPOSALS AND EVALUATE THE PROPOSALS AS A COURT AND WITH THEY CAN COME IN WE CAN TALK TO THEM I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS ALL THE TIME

BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TIME BUT. >> I'M NOT CERTAIN HOW MANY APPLICANTS WE MAKE IT IF WE PERCEIVE THERE'S GOING TO BE QUITE A FEW MAYBE THE COMMITTEE CAN SHORTLIST.

>> IF WE BRING EVERYBODY FORWARD LIKE THAT DOES IT STILL RFP OR DOES IT CHANGE TO SOMETHING ELSE RFQ OR RFI?

>> RFP METHOD IS HOW I PUT OUT THE BID THAT IS UNCONCERNED WITH THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AS

DEFINED BY THE ORDER. >> IF WE START BRINGING THEM IN AND SCREAMING THAT WAY THAT DOESN'T CHANGE?

>> IN FAIRNESS TO ME I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO VISIT WITH JENNY AND MAKE SURE THE PROPOSED METHOD WILL BE OKAY. I KNOW IT'S OKAY FOR YOU NOT TO DELEGATE AUTHORITY, THAT'S NO PROBLEM.

AT THAT POINT I COULD BRING THE RFP DOCUMENT TO THE COURT SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S GONNA BE IN THE RFP BEFORE WE RELEASE IT AND YOU COULD APPROVE IT OF WHAT'S GONNA GO OUT ON THE

STREET. >> CAN WE DO THIS TODAY, GET THE BALL ROLLING, DON'T DELEGATE AUTHORITY GO BACK AND TALK TO JENNY AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE ON HOW WE WEED OUT

LATER? >> SURE.

>> I THINK JOHN IS RIGHT THE TIMING ALWAYS CATCHES US SO

IT'S A GOOD THING IS ON HERE. >> IF WE ARE CONSIDERING THIS METHOD WE NEED TO GET ON IT RIGHT NOW.

TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE. >> IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF

TIME. >> THE OTHER WAY WOULD BE TO DO AN RFQ AND INVITE PEOPLE TO SUBMIT A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES COULD WE DO THAT WITHOUT DOING ALL OF THIS?

>> RFQ AND RFP IT CAN BE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME BOAT IN TERMS OF TIME IT TAKES AND HOW WE GO ABOUT IT (MULTIPLE SPEAKERS) THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THAT'S IF Y'ALL CAN IDENTIFY SOMEONE THAT YOU TRUST TO DO

THE WORK. >> CAN WE DO THAT? COULD YOU DO PROFESSIONAL SERVICES LIKE HYBRID WHERE WE SAID WE SET SOMETHING OUT, WE STILL ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE WANT BUT NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS? NORMALLY WE JUST PICK ONE BUT COULD WE SAY EVERYBODY ON THE COURT SUBMIT ONE AND EVERYBODY COULD YOU DO IT LIKE THAT? I DON'T WANT TO GET CAUGHT UP IN THE TIMING IS THAT LEGAL WHERE WE SAID LET'S DO IT AS A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND

EVERYBODY ON THE COURT SUBMIT. >> LIKE NOMINATION.

>> ONE PERSON FOR SUGGESTION AND WE ALL æ

>> IF YOU CAN PICK ONE IN YOUR PROCESS OF PICKING ONE I DON'T

THINK YOU ARE HINDERED. >> PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, PERSONAL SERVICES IS NOT REQUIRED COMPETITIVE BIDDING SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT PIECE.

>> I THINK WE GO WITH HR DIRECTOR AND THE COURT MAKING THE DECISIONS I THINK THAT SHOULD HELP US MOVE FAST ENOUGH IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF WORK BUT IF WE ARE ALL WILLING TO TAKE IT IT'S EVENED OUT IT'S NOT PREFERENCE TO ONE MEMBER OF THE COURT OR THE OTHER I'M IN FAVOR THAT I THINK æ

>> YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WHERE YOU

NOMINATE. >> THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S THE PROBLEM. IT'S NOT ABOUT MR. DURON.

I THINK HE HAS DONE A GOOD JOB FOR US BUT I THINK IT'S TIME TO

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PUT IT OUT THERE ANYTIME WE DO PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THERE'S ALWAYS THE OPPORTUNITY THE WAY IT'S WORDED WE CAN SAY HERE'S OUR PERSON AND THEN TOTALLY WENT AROUND THIS WHOLE PROCESS WE ARE TRYING TO SET UP WHICH IS æ

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS NOT GOING AROUND AND PICKING ONE THAT EVERYBODY ON THE PORT NOMINATE ONCE WE HAVE FIVE TO PICK FROM IT WOULD BE A FASTER AND LEANER PROCESS THAN HAVING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS. WE ALL NOMINATE ONE COMPANY ONE PERSON OR WHATEVER AND THEN WE BRING THOSE FIVE IN.

>> IF YOU NOMINATE A COMPANY IT WON'T WORK.

>> OKAY, PERSON, THAT'S FINE. >> IT HAS TO BE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT'S CAPABLE OF ATTRACTING BY THEMSELVES æ

>> FOR TIMES THEY CAN WE MOVE FORWARD AND APPROVE THE RFP RIGHT NOW AND COME BACK LATER MAYBE AT THE NEXT MEETING TO GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR POLICY QUESTIONS BETWEEN YOU AND BETWEEN JENNY AND HER TEAM CAN WE DO THAT AS FAR AS TO SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD ON THE RFP TODAY?

>> I THINK GIVING US THE GUIDANCE WOULD BE GOOD AND WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS IF WE MAKE CHANGES TO THE DOCUMENT WE WILL BRING THAT BACK ON THE NEXT COURT TO RECORD IT INTO THE

RECORD. >> CAN WE GET THAT ON THE NEXT AGENDA MAKE SURE HOPEFULLY IF THIS PASSES RIGHT NOW THE RFP.

>> LET'S MAKE IT A MOTION. >> MOTION TO APPROVE THE RFP AND PLACE ON THE NEXT AGENDA SELECTING A COMMITTEE.

>> I THOUGHT WE WANTED TO DO THE COMMITTEE WITH US AND SO TO

MIKE ¦ >> I GET THE CONCEPT WAS FOR THE POLICY I DON'T WANT TO PUT IT ON THE POLICY BUT BEFORE WE WERE ABLE TO PICK SPECIALTY, I THINK MAYBE THERE IS EVEN A CHANCE WE COULD PICK AN EMPLOYEE, THERE'S ALL KINDS OPTIONS. MAYBE IF WE GIVE OURSELVES IF WE MEET AGAIN ON THE 12TH. WE CAN AT LEAST PICK THE COMMITTEE. LET US VENT IT OURSELVES WE MAY WANT TO ÃÃDEBBIE WE JUST FILL THE FIVE WE HAVE A PEER IS GOOD ENOUGH ALONG WITH HR GIVES US TIME TO SAY IF THERE IS SOMEBODY OUT THERE WE WANT TO PICK MAYBE WE CAN COME UP WITH

SOME SUGGESTIONS TO DO IT. >> THAT MEANS WE CAN'T GO OUT,

æ >> WE COULD STILL START THE

RFP. >> I CAN START WRITING THE RFP I CAN'T REALLY SIT OUT TO THE PUBLIC UNTIL WE GET THAT.

>> UNTIL THE ORDER HAS THE COMMITTEE.

>> SOMETIMES TO ME IS MORE EFFECTIVE WHEN THEY ARE STANDING IN FRONT OF ME TO TELL ME WHAT THEY CAN DO AND PROVIDE BECAUSE YOU CAN HOLD THEM TO THE T AND THEY DON'T AND BRING THEM BACK AND SAY I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO DO THIS YOU WERE GOING TO DO THAT, SOMETIMES IT'S GOOD TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE GIVING YOU AND WHAT THE PROMISE THEY ARE GOING TO DO OTHER THAN JUST THE CONTRACT THAT WE NEVER SAW.

I LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY COME BEFORE US SO THEY COULD BE A PART OF US WHEN WE MAKE THE DECISIONS.

>> I AGREE I'M TELLING YOU THAT COMMITTEE WILL BE A WASTE OF TIME FOR ME BECAUSE I'M GOING TO REDO EVERYTHING THE COMMITTEE IS GOING TO WANT TO DO.

I AM NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE ENOUGH ON THIS AS MUCH AS I TRIED AS MUCH AS I DON'T MISS AS MUCH AS ÃÃI DON'T WANT TO WASTE THE COMMITTEE'S OUTSIDE COMMITTEES TIME WHEN I'M GOING TO WANT TO BRING EVERYTHING BACK INTO THE COURT ANYWAY.

THAT'S ALL I WAS TRYING TO COME UP WITH IS JUST DO IT WITH THE COURT DOING IT DO THE RFP PUT THE COMMITTEE AS US BUT IF YOU WANT TO WAIT ON THE COMMITTEE THAT'S FINE BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU I'M NOT GOING TO CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND JULY 12 BUT I'M JUST ONE VOTE. IF NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO DO IT THAT WAY I CAN GET OUT VOTED MY FEELINGS WILL NOT BE HURT.

>> I HAVE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE RFP AND SELECT

COMMISSIONERS COURT. >> JUST DON'T DELEGATE.

>> COMMISSIONERS COURT AND SELECTION COMMITTEE WITH ASSISTANCE AND DIRECTION FROM MR. ¦

>> IS THAT THE MOTION MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MAREZ AND

[10. Discuss and consider authorizing payment of $4,167.00 to Nueces County Drainage District No. 2 for City of Driscoll Drainage Improvement Project.]

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SECOND. MOTION PASSED.

NUMBER 10 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10 IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING PAYMENT OF $4,167.00 TO NUECES COUNTY DRAINAGE DISTRICT NO. 2 FOR CITY OF DRISCOLL DRAINAGE

IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. >> OBVIOUSLY DRISCOLL IS ÃÃ WHEN IT WAS IN MIND I HAVE SUPPORTED THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT AND A PROJECT THEY DID FOR THE CITY OF DRISCOLL.

THIS IS JUST CATCHING UP WITH THE INVOICE THAT HAD BEEN PRESENTED BACK IN 2021 AND SO IS JUST A FORMALITY TO GET IT PAID BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE COMING OUT OF MY FUNDS.

IT'S COMING FROM MY FUNDS. >> FROM THE SPECIAL REVENUE

FUNDS? >> SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS.

>> A MOTION. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION MOVED AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> ALL OPPOSED.

[11. Discuss and consider upcoming Commissioners Court meeting date, Budget Workshop dates, and related matters.]

MOTION CARRIED. BUDGET WORKSHOPS DATES AND RELATED MATTERS. I THINK JULY 10 AND 13TH ARE MARKED FOR BUDGET IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES. >> JULY 10 AND 13TH ARE THOSE

BUDGET? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

TODAY WE HAVE JUST 13 DEPARTMENTS THEY WANT TO GO, FOR THE COURT TO DISCUSS. I DON'T KNOW IF THE COURT WISH TO HAVE JUST ONE DAY FOR THIS FOR THE WORKSHOP COMMISSIONERS?

>> OKAY SO. >> WE HAD IT SCHEDULED ON A

MONDAY AND THURSDAY. >> AND COURT ON WEDNESDAY.> I WOULD LIKE TO SQUEEZE IT DOWN TO ONE DAY.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY DEPARTMENTS SO WHICH DAY? WE HAVE MONDAY AND THURSDAY WE HAVE THE 10TH AND THURSDAY THE

13TH. >> I WOULD SAY THURSDAY FOR ME.

ANYBODY ELSE? WHATEVER THE MAJORITY I DON'T

EVEN CARE. >> THE MOTION WOULD BE CANCELED AT JULY 10 MEETING AND PUT EVERYTHING ON JULY 13.

FOR BUDGET WORKSHOP. >> THAT WAS A MOTION.

>> THE SECOND. >> I THINK DALE MIGHT BE OUT OF THE OFFICE THAT DAY. IF YOU DON'T MIND ME SITTING IN

HIS PLACE. >> HAS BILL BEEN GONE? (LAUGHING) YOU BETTER TELL BILL HE BETTER

HURRY BACK. >> HE SHOULD BE BACK MONDAY.

>> WE'VE GOT IT COVERED. >> I WILL TELL YOU, THE INTERESTING PART ABOUT THAT IS GOING TO BE I'M ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS LOOK LIKE AFTER WE GET OUR NUMBERS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME MAKE A PRESENTATION OF THE NUMBERS ARE AS BAD AS WE THINK THEY ARE. WE MIGHT NOT HAVE THE NEED FOR BUDGET WORKSHOPS AT ALL. I DON'T SAY THAT LATELY EITHER, THAT'S CAN BE AN INTERESTING BUDGET TO SAY THE LEAST.

>> AS FAR AS THE DISCUSSION CONSIDER UPCOMING COURT

MEETINGS. >> COMMISSIONER, I DON'T KNOW IF FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT THEY WERE LIKE IF THE COURT COULD HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TO ADDRESS THE BUDGET I BELIEVE.

>> I DON'T KNOW. >> IT'S A REQUEST FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THE NEXT AGREEMENT IS DUE FOR JULY 1 THE ONE WE REQUEST THE FUNDS BEFORE THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT THEY WANT TO KNOW IF THE COURT IS GOING TO AGREE WITH THE $1.8

MILLION THEY REQUESTED. >> AND MEETING WITH THE HEALTH DIRECTOR ON FRIDAY BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO THAT.

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>> THAT'S MY CONCERN BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW YET UNTIL WE GET THE FUNDS FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT SO THAT STEP NUMBER ONE GOAL FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

THAT'S WHAT THE COURT USES THE FUNDS TO PAY FOR THE HEALTH

DEPARTMENT. >> I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO IT SOONER THAN THE 12TH MEETING. WE NEED TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE.

>> I TOTALLY AGREE BUT I'M VOICING THE REQUEST FROM THE

HEALTH DEPARTMENT. >> TO HOW DUMB I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT WILL BE AFFECTED OR IF THEY ARE AFFECTED BY THIS UPCOMING POTENTIAL SHORTFALL BECAUSE I THINK THEY ARE COUNTYWIDE AND IF THESE APPRAISALS WITH THE FIGHT BETWEEN THE DISTRICT AND THE REFINERIES THAT HAS TO AFFECT THEIR BUDGET SO I'M CURIOUS IF THEY WILL WANT TO AGREE TO THIS. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS POTENTIALLY. I'M LEERY ABOUT APPROVING ANYTHING UNTIL WE GET THE CERTIFIED.

>> WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT IS GOING TO

REQUEST. >> I THINK WE NEED TO STICK TO THE 12 MEETING. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE OFFSET.

>> THE MEETINGS WE ARE LOOKING AT NOW.

>> IT WOULD BE A DAY IN BETWEEN BUT IT'S FINE.

>> DO I HEAR A MOTION. >> WE ALREADY HAVE A SECOND.

>> DID WE INCLUDE THE 12TH AND THE 15TH.

>> THE 12TH AND YOU CANCEL JULY 10 12 IS A REGULAR MEETING AND 13TH IS THE BUDGET MEETING.> DID WE VOTE.

>> ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

ALL OPPOSED SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIED.

TO GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 3 IT SAYS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE COUNTY COMMITTEE TO NEGOTIATE A PROPOSED LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH DOLBY PARK RELATED TO POTENTIAL MODIFICATION AND LICENSES OF THE BALLPARK AND THE RICHARD M BORCHARD REGIONAL FAIRGROUNDS.

>> WE BEEN MEETING WITH LEON MCCLENDÃWITH A GROUP OF US TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE BEST AVENUE OR HOW ARE WE GOING TO ROLL WITH THIS. WE BROUGHT MR. MACLACHLAN SO HE CAN BRING YOU A BRIEF REVIEW OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AND WHAT

WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO.>> I JUST GOT HANDED SOMETHING THAT SAYS CONFIDENTIAL SO I'M CONFUSED.

>> THE VERSION OF THE SCREEN IS AN OLDER VERSION SO THEY ARE FINE WITH THAT. THIS IS THE NEWER VERSION THEY DON'T WANT RELEASED. AM GOING TO GIVE THIS BACK BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THAT GETTING OUT INADVERTENTLY.

I DON'T WANT THE CONFIDENTIAL ONE.

MAYBE ENCLOSED SESSION BUT I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY DOUBT SOMETHING GOT OUT THAT WE GOT IT OUT WE DON'T DO THAT.

>> GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US AS ED SAID EARLIER MY NAME IS LEON MCGLOCKLIN.

>> CAN YOU PAUSE PLEASE, WE JUST LOST A QUORUM.

OKAY, GO AHEAD. >> I'M LEON MCGLOCKLIN FROM YE OLD BALL YARD WE BEEN MEETING AND TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL

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FOR YOUR AREA OVER THERE BY THE RICHARD BORCHARD STADIUM AND THE IDEA IS BECAUSE YOU ALL KNOW BASEBALL CONTRACTED A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT REFERENCE TO MINOR LEAGUE TEAMS AND WHEN IT DID IT LEFT CITIES AND COUNTIES WITH PROPERTIES THAT ASSETS SITTING THERE NOT BEING USED. WE ARE A COMPANY LOOKING AT THAT KIND OF THING TO TAKE THAT THING TO PUT IT INTO SOMETHING USEFUL AND A MONEYMAKING VENTURE FOR YOUR COUNTY.

AS WE LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE PRESENTED YOU AS A BASIC THING OF A PROPOSAL. THIS THING HAS REALLY MOVED AND I APOLOGIZE TO THE COURT I THOUGHT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE AT 10 NOT NINE, IF WE HAD KNOWN IT WAS NINE WE WOULD'VE BEEN HERE AT NINE. FROM LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED TO YOU NOW IS THE IDEA TO LOOK AT THIS TO DETERMINE IF THERE IS POSSIBILITY OF REVITALIZING YOUR AREA BY ORDERING THE YOBY PARK FACILITY THERE TO DO THOSE THINGS FOR YOU THAT WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING TO DO.

WE GOT INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT LATE BECAUSE I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS FACILITY HAD I SAID WAIT A MINUTE, IF THERE IS A FACILITY THEY BEEN SITTING THERE AND HAS BEEN SITTING THERE FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME NOT PERMANENTLY BEING USED WHY NOT LOOK AT IT AND TRY TO REMODEL FACILITY AND MAKE IT INTO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO WE ARE LOOKING AT BUILDING A NEW ONE OF THESE FACILITIES RIGHT OUTSIDE OF HOUSTON AS OPPOSED TO BUILDING FROM A STADIUM PRESENT WHEN I LOOK AT YOUR STADIUM I SAID, LET'S LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF THERE ARE POSSIBILITIES WE LOOKED AT IT AND THERE ARE SOME POSSIBILITIES, WHAT WE HAD GIVEN OUT TO YOU IF SOME OF THE PROPOSED THINGS WE POSSIBLY COULD DO TO MAKE IT WORK. I ALSO APOLOGIZE TO THE COURT FOR THE INFORMATION THAT WAS LET OUT ABOUT IT A COUPLE THREE WEEKS AGO I DID NOT KNOW THAT WE WERE GOING TO JUMP THE GUN THAT FAST IN TERMS OF BEING OUT ON THE NEEDS AND THAT KIND OF THING. SO PERSONS IN THE AREA KNOW ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY BUT THIS IS THE THING THAT AS I SAID IN A MEETING AT THAT TIME, WE DO NOT HAVE AGREEMENT, DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN HOPE TO LOOK AT A FACILITY AND CHATTING ABOUT THAT FACILITY INTO SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN USE IN YOUR AREA. AS WE LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE OR SHOULD I MOVE? IS IT MOVED BY SOMEBODY ELSE? TO THE NEXT SLIDE. YOU CAN GO TO THE . AS YOU SEE WHAT WE HAVE HERE THIS IS SOMETHING TO SHOW HIM AS A WAY OF A POSSIBILITY OF DOING IT AND YOU CAN GO TO THE AS WELL.

THAT'S JUST SOME OF WHAT THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING WITH THIS WOULD TAKE SOME OF THE STADIUM SEATS AND PUT A COVERING AND TO HAVE THE BABIES. THAT'S A COMPOSITE OF THE 36 BAYS AND THEN YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS OUR VISION IN TERMS OF WHERE IT WILL LOOK ONE ON TOP OF THE OTHER ONE YOU GOT ONE ON THE BOTTOM ONE ON THE SECOND AND THE REASON BEING BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE STADIUM SEATS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE. WHAT I'VE GIVEN TO YOU AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO DETAIL BECAUSE YOU SAID NOT TO BRING UP YOU WILL SEE THE DETAIL HOW THOSE THINGS ACTUALLY MESH TOGETHER SO, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THAT'S THE END OF IT BECAUSE BASICALLY THE GOAL IS TO REVITALIZE THE AREA AND MAKE IT INTO A PROMISING AREA THAT CAN GIVE YOU SOME INCOME AND BRING OTHER THINGS TO THE AREA.

WE BELIEVE THAT YOBY PARK IS A FACILITY THAT CAN DO THAT.

AS YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE DONE, YOBY PARK HAS TAKEN OFF OF APPROVAL MODEL, TOP GOLF. IT'S A MODEL YOU'VE HEARD OF THAT FOCUSES ON GOLF. WE ARE FOCUSING ON BASEBALL, SOFTBALL. HITTING A BATTED BALL FROM A T AND A PERSON, I THOUGHT ABOUT IF WE HAD HAD THE FACILITY ALREADY BUILT I WOULD INVITE YOU GENTLEMEN OUT THERE AND GET SOME YOUR FRUSTRATION OUT ON THE BALL.

BUT SINCE WE DON'T HAVE IT YET WE CAN'T DO IT.

THAT WOULD BE THE IDEA TO COME UP THERE YOU COULD HIT THE BALL AND TAKE SOME FRUSTRATION OUT ON THAT BALL AND HIT A HOME RUN HIT A DOUBLE OR TRIPLE OR WHATEVER IT IS BUT IT WOULD BE RECORDED AS YOU HIT THE BALL THERE IT IS BEING RECORDED AS TO WHAT YOU DID YOU HAVE A SINGLE A DOUBLE, TRIPLE, HOME RUN AS YOU GO THROUGH IT THE SCORES ARE THERE AND DETERMINES WHERE IT IS YOU CAN DO THAT YOU CAN HOLD A PERSON LIKE ANYBODY, IT DOESN'T MATTER. THIS IS THE IDEA TO HAVE A FACILITY THAT BRINGS IT THERE, BRINGS FOOD BRINGS DRINKS AND GIVES YOU PHONE AND FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT AS A FAMILY FUN DESTINATION THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS.

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>> HOW DO WE PLAN TO BUILD THIS THING.

>> WE PLAN TO TAKE WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE REMODEL WHAT YOU

HAVE ALREADY STOP. >> WHERE DO WE GET THE

REMODELING FUND? >> WE WILL PROVIDE THE

REMODELING FUNDS. >> SO YOU'RE BRINGING HOW MUCH

TO THE TABLE? >> WE BRING IN THE DOLLARS TO THE TABLE, AT THIS POINT I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DOLLARS BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT DETERMINED THIS IS THE ONE WE WANT TO USE AND THE FINAL PLAN TO DO IT BUT BASICALLY WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT $7 MILLION TO REMODEL THAT WE DON'T WANT TO GO PAST $7 MILLION TO DO THAT.> I WILL OPEN UP DISCUSSION ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY WANTS TO SAY?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. HOW DID YOU COME TO FIND OUT

ABOUT OUR FACILITY? >> I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS FACILITY FROM A PERSON WHO USED TO WORK IN THIS AREA ARE DOWN HERE AND HE WAS WORKING IN HOUSTON AND FORT BEND COUNTY AND I WAS LOOKING AT THE FORT BEND COUNTY AREA FOR POSSIBLE BOARDING FACILITY HE WAS TELLING ME ABOUT THIS PLACE THAT HAD ONE HERE AND ALSO LOOKED AT FACILITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT THERE ARE STADIUMS THAT ARE VACANT QUITE A FEW PLACES HE JUST CONFIRMED THAT THIS ONE WAS RIGHT HERE LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY AND I JUST WENT LOOKED AT CLOSE BECAUSE YOU ARE CLOSER TO HOUSTON BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER FACILITIES ACROSS THE UNITED DATES WE ARE LOOKING AT AS

WELL. >> IS THERE A WAY WE CAN KNOW THIS PERSON'S NAME.> IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

THE PERSON THAT GAVE ME THAT INFORMATION, HE DID WORK IN YOUR COUNTY AS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSON USING FORT BEND COUNTY NOW. BUT YOUR STADIUM IS ON A LIST OF VACANT STADIUMS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

>> WHAT ARE YOU ASKING THE COUNTY?

>> I'M ASKING FOR THE COUNTY TO ALLOW US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT AND DEVELOP OUR PLANS FOR THIS AND THEN COME BACK TO YOU AND PRESENT OUR PROPOSAL TO YOU OF WHAT WE CAN DEVELOP FOR YOU.

>> HOW ABOUT FUNDING? DO WE HAVE TO PUT FUNDING.

>> YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO PUT ANY FUNDING.

>> I GUESS THIS IS MICHAEL OR EDWARD OR SOMEONE, HOW DO WE KNOW HOW WE DO THIS WITH JUST ONE PERSON SHOULD WE NOT HAVE PUT OUT RF CUES OR RFPS AND CAUGHT OFF GUARD BY THIS WOMAN AND I GUESS WE WOULDN'T WANT TO SPEND A LOT OF STUFF AND TIME IF WE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THE FUNDING SOURCE WAS COMING FROM AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE SO IT'S A GREAT CONCEPT I'M JUST

TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. >> WHAT WE'VE BEEN USING AS THE LICENSING AGREEMENT MODEL LIKE THE ONE THAT WE USE OVER THERE AFTER SWIMMING POOL FULL. SO WE THOUGHT HOWEVER IS LOOKING, THERE'S NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE LOOKING FOR AN EMPTY BALLGAME. WE VET THEM AND CHOOSE THEM ESSENTIALLY AND THAT'S HOW WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

SO THROUGH THIS MODEL THIS ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE TO ASSURE OURSELVES THE COMMITTEE IS NOT ONE FOR THE ESTABLISH IT'S NOT GOING TO END UP WITH A RESOLUTION THAT WE END UP GIVING IT TO THEM IT'S GOING TO, WE WANT TO EXPLORE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE FINANCING THE FUNDING WORKS TO TAKE ONE OF THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WILL BE MADE TO THE STADIUM GOT AN IDEA BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MODIFICATIONS ARE GOING TO BE MADE TO THE STADIUM THE TIME LENGTH OF THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT AS WELL.

ALL THESE THINGS ARE IN PLAY WITH THIS INSTRUMENT THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN DONE LICENSING AGREEMENTS WE ARE ABLE TO CHOOSE THAT AND NOW THAT THE WORD IS OUT EVERYBODY MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT IDEA AS FAR AS HOW TO DO THE SAME PROJECT AND

THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER THING. >>.

>> TO ME THIS BANGS A BIGGER PICTURE CONVERSATION AFTER NOT BEFORE THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD WHICH IS DO WE EVEN KEEP THIS BALLPARK OR KNOCK IT DOWN AND REPURPOSE THE LAND SO I DON'T WANT WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT CONVERSATION AS A COURT BECAUSE IT'S AN UNCOMFORTABLE CONVERSATION AND UNFORTUNATELY NOW IT COMES UP BECAUSE THIS PROJECT HAS COME BEFORE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO WASTE THIS NICE MAN'S TIME IF THIS COURT IS GOING TO LOOK AT DOING SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT I DON'T WANT TO WASTE STAFF TIME IF WE IF THERE IS NOT A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF FUNDS AVAILABLE WHAT I WILL REFERENCE IS MY REALLY HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE WITH THE OLD COURTHOUSE WHERE WE HAD THIS GREAT WE THOUGHT WE HAD ALL THIS MECHANISM IS GONNA BE GREAT AND WONDERFUL AND THEY

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DIDN'T HAVE COME UP WITH THE FUNDS AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING I'M SURE THEY CAN COME UP WITH THE FUNDS BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT FUNDING AVAILABLE. I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT SPENT A YEAR OF EVERYBODY'S TIME AND THEN YOU DECIDE ÃÃTHAT'S PRETTY VALUABLE LAND OUT THERE THAT IF YOU REPURPOSED IT MEANING ÃÃ THERE ISN'T MUCH USE FOR IT RIGHT NOW, LET'S CALL IT LIKE IT IS, NOBODY'S EVEN RENTING IT FOR BASEBALL STADIUMS ANYMORE IT'S SITTING THERE DOING NOTHING. WE MIGHT JUST NEED TO TEAR DOWN AND REPURPOSE THE LAND SO I DON'T WANT TO WASTE HIS TIME, THEIR TIME, OUR TIME BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT BIG PICTURE CONVERSATION ON WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO WHAT THAT AREA AND WE ALSO HAVE OTHER LAND OUT THERE THAT COULD IF YOU LOCKED ALL OF THAT DOWN AND MADE ALL THAT VACANT LAND AGAIN WHAT COULD HE DO WITH THAT. I DON'T WANT TO WASTE THEIR TIME, IF THEY CAME IN AND SAID WE HAVE 7 MILLION DOLLARS IN THE BANK WE ARE READY TO GO THAT'S A DIFFERENT DEAL BUT THAT'S NOT A REALISTIC EXPECTATION EITHER.

>> THE THING IS I CAN'T ANSWER FOR THE COURT.

>> ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE HE'S INTERESTED IN THE PROPERTY WERE NOT GOING TAKE A YEAR I THINK MAYBE 60 DAYS IS SOMETHING THAT'S REASONABLE I CAN'T SPEAK FOR HIM BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE'S LOOKING FOR.

>> WE DON'T OPERATE ANY FACILITY THIS IS THE FIRST ONE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RENOVATE STOP.

>> IS THE $700 YOU INDICATED IS THAT AT HAND DO YOU HAVE THE

FUNDING AVAILABLE TO? >> WE HAVE THE FUNDING

AVAILABLE. >> I AGREE WITH YOU SORRY THAT I WOULDN'T WANT UNLESS THE COUNTY DECIDES THAT THIS IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AND THAT'S MY IDEA IS THE SAME TO LOOK AT IT AND DO IT, I WOULD RATHER NOT KNOW THAT KNOW THAT NOW BECAUSE THAT WAY WE CAN MOVE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE.

TO WASTE TIME, AS YOU SAID AND THEN YOU DETERMINE WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT WE WANT TO TEAR DOWN I AGREE THAT'S A GOOD DECISION IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO BECAUSE I WOULDN'T WANT TO SPEND 45 DAYS LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY IF YOU KNOW YOU'RE GONNA TEAR DOWN CLICKS YOU HAD WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT AND IF THE COUNTY SAID LET US LOOK AT THE PROCESS OF DOING IT AND PUTTING IT TOGETHER WE WILL PUT THE PROJECT TOGETHER BUT IF YOU PLAN TO TEAR DOWN ANYTHING HERE, TEAR IT DOWN I WOULD RATHER SAY GO AHEAD AND TEAR DOWN WE MOVE ON TO ANOTHER PLACE BECAUSE WE CAN GO TO OTHER PLACES.

>> IF YOU HAVE VERIFIABLE FUNDS THAT, IF YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF VERIFIABLE FUNDS YOU PROVIDED COUNTY THAT YOU HAVE THE FUNDS COURTS DO YOU WANT TO DO BEFORE WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH YOU TO DO IT OR YOU WANT US TO DO THAT AFTER WE HAVE BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IF WE HAD SOME KIND OF PLAN THAT WE GO I HAD TO DO THAT WE COULD DO THOSE TWO THINGS BUT IF WE ARE NOT AND THEN YOU SAY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT TO ME BEFORE WE WOULD ENTER INTO ANY KIND OF LIKE TODAY THE AGENDA ITEM IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTING A COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT LICENSING AGREEMENT FOR I WOULD WANT TO GO INTO THAT I WOULD WANT VERIFIABLE FUNDS SO HERE'S THE VERIFIABLE, $700 THAT YOU GOT THE FUNDS AND BE READY TO GO BECAUSE.

>> I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST THE $7 MILLION BECAUSE TO ME SOMETHING THAT COULD BE I LIKE THE IDEA BUT IF A MINISTER TEAR DOWN SOMETHING SOMETHING HAPPENS AND WE STOP HOW IS THE COUNTY GET BACK TOGETHER AGAIN SO YOU MIGHT HAVE $7 MILLION TO WORK WITH MY QUESTION WOULD BE CAN YOU PUT UP MAYBE $3 MILLION $4 MILLION IN BOND IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS NUECES COUNTY CAN SAY THIS BELONGS TO NUECES COUNTY SO WE CAN FIX IT THE WAY IT WAS WE DON'T WANT SOMETHING TO BE LEFT HALF DONE.

WE BEEN THERE BEFORE. SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE MONIES LOCKED IN AND SOME KIND OF A BOND THAT IF

IT'S GONNA HAPPEN. >> IF WE ENTERED AN AGREEMENT OR WHATEVER YOU ALL SAFE FOR US TO DO AND YOU GIVE US THE GUIDELINES TO FOLLOW WE WILL FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES AND IF THOSE ARE THE GUIDELINES THEN THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD DO WE WOULD COME BACK TO YOU WITH WHATEVER WE PLAN TO DO.

I AGREE WITH THAT. >> EDWARD, ON THIS PROPOSAL,

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THERE'S A LOT OF ADVANCE OR GROUP THAT WE MET WITH OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE IT'S LITERALLY RIGHT ON THE ROAD FOR MY OFFICE. I'M PRIVY TO A LOT OF THOSE.

WE'VE HAD LICENSING AGREEMENTS WITH MINOR-LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAMS LIKE INDEPENDENT AFFILIATES WE HAVE THE CAR RACING THAT'S BEEN OUT THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF EVENTS AND SO WE DONE IT THROUGH LICENSING, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> FROM WOMEN'S SOFTBALL TO SOCCER WE HAVE SEMI PRO SOCCER IN THERE FOR A WHILE, DIFFERENT EVENTS IN THE PARKING LOT.

WE ARE HOLDING OFF ON A WINTER EVENT THAT THEY WANT TO HOLD IN THE PARKING LOT SET UP DURING THANKSGIVING AND THEN JUST HAVE CARS DRIVE THROUGH THE PARKING LOT.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S ON HOLD BASED ON WHAT WE DISCUSSED AND WHAT WE DECIDE HERE TODAY SO YES WE DO HAVE A LOT OF

LICENSING AGREEMENTS. >> THE REASON WHY WE ARE HERE AND I AGREE AND I APOLOGIZE TO MR. MCGLOCKTON.

THIS ITEM CAME OUT PROBABLY BEFORE YOUR COMFORT AND BEFORE HOURS BECAUSE WE COULD'VE MADE SURE THE DUE DILIGENCE WAS DONE BUT NOW THAT THE CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG SO TO SPEAK WITH GOT TO ADDRESS IT, PEOPLE EXCITED.E GOT TO PROTECT AGAINST WHAT I KNOW SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE SAYING THE HEARTBURN WE'VE HAD OVER THE YEARS WHERE. I WANT TO EXPLORE THIS.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO EXPLORE THIS FURTHER TO SEE WHAT ARE ALL THE OTHER STEPS WE NEED TO TAKE? WE NEED SOME PART OF YOU TO SAY WE ARE COMMITTED TO THIS AND THIS IS WHAT IT MAY BE. THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THE COURT CAN WORK ON. IF WE GET INTO A PROPOSAL AND LET ANYBODY COME UP WITH ANY CONCEPT, IT'S GONNA BE HARD COMPARING APPLES CHARGES BECAUSE THERE WILL BE DIFFERENT WAYS OF LOOKING AT THE VOLUME AND STARTING FROM GROUND ZERO WITH NO BUILDING RAISE THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE, HOW CAN YOU REPURPOSE WHAT IS THERE? I THINK THIS IS REALLY OUR LAST CHANCE TO SAY WHAT CAN WE USE WITH WHAT IS THERE BECAUSE OTHER THAN THIS, I THINK THAT'S IT IN MY OPINION.

HOPE THE PROJECT HAPPENS BUT IF IT DOESN'T THEN I THINK THEN YOU NEED TO GO EXPLORE PUTTING OUT A BID FOR THE WORLD TO COME UP WITH THE CONCEPT AND I AGREE LIKE THE OLD COURTHOUSE CAME UP WITH GREAT IDEAS BUT IN THE END THERE WAS NO ONE TO BACK UP THOSE FINANCES. THAT'S CAN BE A BIG PART OF THIS. TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION FOR NOW, I DON'T SEE THE HARM IN THAT DOES IT'S ALREADY BEEN HERE IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE I DON'T THINK, HOW LONG DO WE THINK IT WOULD TAKE TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS TO RELATE PROVE UP SOME OF OUR CONCERNS AND FURTHER YOBY GROUP TO PROVE UP OR SHOW THAT THEY ARE SERIOUS AND HAVE THE BACKING NEEDED TO MAKE IT A SUCCESS.

>> IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WE ARE LOOKING AT 45 TO 60 DAYS IS

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WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. HE NEEDS TO BRING HIS ARCHITECTS IN THERE HE NEEDS TO COME UP WITH A SOLID NUMBER OF WHAT IT WOULD COST. IS WILLING TO INVEST $7 MILLION BUT IN OUR CONVERSATIONS IT MIGHT BE LESS BECAUSE THERE MIGHT NOT BE AS MUCH WORK. HE WANTS TO LEAVE THE STADIUM AS MUCH A STADIUM AS POSSIBLE SO THERE WILL BE SEEDING AND THERE MIGHT BE GAMES STILL PLAYED ON THE BALLFIELD.

HE'S TALKING ABOUT MAYBE BRINGING IN TRAINERS FOR T-BALL KIDS OR STUFF LIKE THAT, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE IDEAS.

HE EXPRESSED TO ME, COMMISSIONER, IN ORDER FOR ME TO START I NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING FIRM, SOMETHING TO GO BY SO THAT I CAN TELL MY PEOPLE, WHOEVER'S INVESTED IN ME, THAT WE DO HAVE A LOCATION OR WE DO HAVE A POSSIBLE LOCATION. IT MAY NOT WORK BUT I NEED TO Ã ÃHE'S GONNA SPEND SOME MONEY TO DO ALL THAT.

>> HOW MUCH WILL WE SPEND IF WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS?

>> TIME. JUST TIME.

>> UNWILLING TO SUPPORT TIME. TIME IS STILL A COMMODITY THAT'S VALUABLE BUT THAT'S THE BEST TO ME.

IF WE ARE PUTTING IN ANYTHING AND IT'S OUR TIME I'M OKAY WITH SUPPORTING THE COMMITTEE TO NEGOTIATE THIS FURTHER TO SEE IS THIS VIABLE FOR BOTH SIDES. THANK YOU.

>> EDWARD, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE 60 DAYS TO TELL US SOMETHING. I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MAREZ, IF IT'S NOT GOING TO COST US ANYTHING BUT TIME, IF YOU COULD GIVE US A LETTER OF INTENT FROM SOME FINANCIAL SYSTEM LIKE A BANKING SYSTEM THAT SAYS YES YOU QUALIFY FOR THOSE MONIES. AND WE KNOW IT'S A REPUTABLE FINANCIAL SYSTEM, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

>> IF NOBODY HAS A PROBLEM WITH IT AS LONG AS WE KNOW THE MONEY

IS THERE. >> IF WE HAVE A LETTER OF INTENT THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO GIVE THE MONEY OR THE MONEY IS THERE, IT SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.

>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPOINT A COMMITTEE TO NEGOTIATE A PROPOSED LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH YOBY PARK RELATED TO POTENTIAL MODIFICATIONS AND LICENSING FOR THE BALLPARK AT RICHARD M BORCHARD FAIRGROUNDS.

>> PENDING FUNDING BEING VERIFIED.

I'M NOT SUPPORTING ANYTHING IF FUNDING IS NOT VERIFIED.

>> I WOULD SAY COMMISSIONER, THE FUNDING HAS TO BE VERIFIED.

>> WITH FUNDING VERIFIED. >> IS NOT POSSIBLE SIR?

>> IF THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL NEED. I'M GOING TO WORK WITH WHAT YOU

SAY TO DO. >> THAT'S MY MOTION.

>> I WILL SECOND THAT. >> WHAT DOES THE COMMITTEE MEAN? IF EDWARD WANTS TO SPEND TIME ON THIS BECAUSE HE'S DOING IT AND YOU WANT TO GIVE IT ANOTHER 30 TO 45 DAYS I THINK THE PROPERTY NEEDS TO BE TORN DOWN AND REPURPOSE BUT IF YOU WANT TO SPEND 30 DAYS OF STAFF TIME DOING IT AND WE CAN HAVE VERIFIED FUNDING, I DON'T SEE

HOW THIS WORKS. >> IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR

DISCUSSION. >> THERE'S NOTHING GOING ON WITH THAT BALLPARK AND ITS WITHERING AWAY BUT I DON'T WANT A COMMITTEE OF PEOPLE I DON'T WANT ÃÃI DON'T WANT TO SPEND A BUNCH OF TIME. , BUT JUST BE EDWARD?

>> IT HAS BEEN EDWARD. I DON'T MIND DOING THAT IF WE WANT TO INCLUDE A FEW OTHER INDIVIDUALS.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HE MET WITH CCR CSD, THEY HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE THERE'S A LOT OF GROUPS THAT COULD BE BROUGHT IN BUT I WOULD SAY IT WOULD NEED TO BE MANAGEABLE SMALL GROUPS WOULD BE EFFICIENT AND DO THE GROUNDWORK, DO THE FOOTWORK FOR THIS COURT TO FIND OUT EVERYTHING WE NEED ALL THE ANSWERS IN 30 TO 45 DAYS LATER WE COME BACK AND SAY EITHER YES OR NO AND IF NOT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD SUPPORTING A MOTION THAT WOULD OPEN UP.

>> CAN WE DO IT WITH YOU AND EDWARD THAT BE YOU AND EDWARD BE THE ONES WHO WORK ON THIS HOW WE VERIFIED FUNDING?

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>> THAT'S WHY WE ARE LOOKING AT MAYBE SOMEBODY FROM THE JUDGE'S

OFFICE. >> I WANT TO LIMIT THIS, IF EVERYBODY WANTS TO OUTVOTE ME, THAT'S GREAT.

IF THE JUDGE WANTS TO VOLUNTEER STAFF, SHE CAN'T SPEAK FOR HERSELF. I'M TOTALLY FINE WITH MR. MAREZ WANTS TO TAKE THE LEAVE. IT'S YOUR PRECINCT. JUST WOULD LIKE THE FUNDS VERIFIED AND IT BE YOU AND EDWARD FOR NOW IF YOU NEED TO PULL IN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY JOHN, YOU ARE COMMISSIONER YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.

CAN WE DESIGNATE YOU AND EDWARD.

WE DON'T DICTATE WHAT YOU DO THIS IS THE PROJECT YOU WANT TO WORK ON, WORK ON IT. I GET WHY YOU ARE TRYING TO DO

IT. >>.

>> IT COULD BE ANOTHER COMMITTEE MEMBER.

>> DON'T YOU KNOW ANY RETIRED BASEBALL PLAYERS LIKE MR. GARCIA WHO PLAYED FOR THE ROYALS.

I HEARD HE'S IN TOWN SOMEWHERE. >> THERE IS ALSO SOME OF THE

IST PERSONNEL. >> COACHES THAT MAYBE CAN HELP YOU ALONG WITH THIS. JUST A SUGGESTION.

>> HOW ARE WE VERIFYING THE FUNDS?

>> I CAN WORK WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO GET THAT.

THAT'S MY CONCERN TOO. THE CONCEPT IS GREAT, WE WANT THAT. THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS SOMETHING WE SEEK IN THE COURT, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT IS SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL.

ALSO IT HAS TO BE THE ANALYSIS, SOMETHING THIS PROJECT THAT'S GONNA WORK FOR THE COMMUNITY. FIVE YEARS AGO WE KNOW WE HAVE SOME KIND OF PRIORITY, TOP GOLF WAS SEEKING TO GET SOMETHING HERE BUT THEN THEY DIDN'T HAVE A MARKET FOR THAT.

I CAN TOTALLY WORK WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO LOOK INTO THOSE DETAILS AND COME BEFORE THE COURT AND PROVIDE IF THIS IS SOMETHING IF THEY HAVE THE MONEY, THAT'S THE MAIN CONCERN AND THEN IT'S JUST TO DO THE ANALYSIS TO SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO WORK FOR THE COMMITTEE.

>> I JUST NEED A MOTION THAT IS CLEAR HOW TO WORD TO VERIFY THE FUNDS, HOW IS IT VERIFIED? DO WE NEED TO SEE A BANK ACCOUNT WITH $7 MILLION I NEED ÃÃSO NOBODY WALKS AWAY UNCLEAR ON THE NICE GENTLEMAN WANTS TO KNOW WHAT WE WANT I'M TRYING TO BE SPECIFIC. HOW DO WE WANT æ

>> SHOULDN'T WE GET SOMETHING FROM A FINANCIAL INSTITUTE THAT IS GOING TO LEND HIM THE MONEY OR GIVE HIM THE MONEY?

>> AUDITOR HAVE A SUGGESTION? >> WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LETTER OF CREDIT, WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING MONEY IN ESCROW, BOTH OF WHICH HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED. PLACING FUNDS IN ESCROW TO BE HELD, WHILE THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD ÃÃ (MULTIPLE SPEAKERS) A LETTER OF CREDIT.

>> A LETTER OF CREDIT THAT VERIFIES THEY HAVE $7 MILLION WITH THE FUNDING AVAILABLE. SOMETHING I DON'T WANT THEIR MONEY IN ESCROW. WE ARE NOWHERE NEAR THAT.

A LETTER OF CREDIT FROM A FINANCIAL INSTITUTION OR BANK STATEMENT THAT SHOWS $7 MILLION OR SOMETHING THAT ÃÃI WILL LEAVE IT TO THE COUNTY AUDIT ATTORNEY AND AUDITOR TO COME UP WITH A WAY THAT VERIFIES FUNDING WHETHER A LETTER OF CREDIT, BANK STATEMENT, SOMETHING.

I WANT SOMETHING THAT VERIFIES THE FUNDING.

>> THIS IS SO EARLY IN THE PROCESS THAT EITHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT SATISFY THE COURT, YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME DOWN THE ROAD TO CHANGE THAT SO MONEY IN ESCROW OR ANYTHING

ELSE. >> THAT WOULD BE IF IT COMES TO PASS AND THEY DO THEIR DILIGENCE WE HAVE TO HAVE THE MONEY IN ESCROW BUT NOT AT THIS POINT.

I JUST WANT VERIFICATION OF FUNDS.

>> THAT'S PART OF THE MOTION. > CLEAR ENOUGH.

>> ACCEPTABLE. >> LETTER OF CREDIT, BANK

STATEMENTS. >> MAY I HAVE A QUESTION.

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MY QUESTION IS IN REFERENCE TO WE LOOKED AT THIS THING OUTSIDE WE HAVEN'T LOOKED IT INSIDE. SUPPOSEDLY LOOKED DOWN HERE 30 DAYS FOR NOW AND SAY THIS IS NOT WHAT WE REALLY WANT BECAUSE IT'S TOO FAR GONE TO DO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO, WE HAVE A WAY

OUT, RIGHT? >> THERE IS NOT A COMMITMENT.

>> IT'S NONBINDING. >> WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR.

>> THANK YOU. >> MOTION PASSED.

[1. Discuss and review operations of the Animal Services Department; discuss and consider job descriptions and salary; and related matters.]

THEN WE GO BACK TO HUMAN RESOURCES.

DISCUSS AND REVIEW OPERATIONS OF THE ANIMAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT; DISCUSS AND CONSIDER JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND

SALARY; AND RELATED MATTERS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD MORNING STILL. WE HAVE LOOKED AT SEVERAL OPTIONS FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF THE ANIMAL SERVICES CENTER.

I BELIEVE YOU ALL MET LAST WEEK TO DISCUSS OPTIONS, WE ARE ASKING THE COURT TO APPROVE THE REQUEST AND CONSIDERATION OF A DISCUSSION THAT WAS HELD AT THE LAST COMMISSIONERS COURT, ONE OF THE REQUESTS IS FOR THE PROPOSED JOB DESCRIPTION FOR ANIMAL SERVICES COORDINATOR. WHICH YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE BEFORE YOU. THE SECOND REQUEST IS FOR THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE POSITION. WE DISCUSSED SPECIAL SERVICES IN TERMS OF THE CONTRACT AGREEMENT AND WE DECIDED THE BEST OPTION FOR THE COUNTY AT THIS TIME WAS TO PROPOSE A TEMPORARY WORKER CLASSIFICATION.

WHEN THE ANIMAL SERVICES COORDINATOR JOB DESCRIPTION WE REQUEST APPROVAL FOR THE CLASSIFICATION TO BE A TEMPORARY WORKER AND THIRDLY, WE NEED APPROVAL FOR THE PAY SCHEDULE FOR THAT ANIMAL SERVICES COURT.

>> æ >> THE ANIMAL SERVICES COORDINATOR. AND DISCUSSION ON IF YOU WANT TO POST THE ANIMAL SERVICES MANAGER POSITION IN THE INTERIM. THIS IS A TEMPORARY WORKER REQUEST WE CAN UTILIZE AN INTERIM UNTIL WE IDENTIFY A PARTY FOR THE ANIMAL SERVICES MANAGER POSITION.

>> I'M CONFUSED. THE ANIMAL SERVICES MANAGER IS

A PERMANENT POSITION? >> YES SIR.

WE ALSO NEED APPROVAL FOR THE JOB DESCRIPTION FOR ANIMAL SERVICES COORDINATOR, ONCE YOU APPROVE THAT THEN WE CAN POST

THAT AS WELL. >> WE NEED THE COORDINATOR NOW TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. TO HAVE SOMEBODY TO RUN IT WHILE WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR A FULL-TIME POSITION AS A

MANAGER. >> THAT'S CORRECT EXCEPT CURRENTLY JOB DESCRIPTION BEFORE YOU DOES NOT HAVE A PAY SCHEDULE ASSIGNED TO IT SO I KNOW THE RECOMMENDATION PUT BEFORE US IS $1500 EVERY TWO WEEKS.

FOR 80 HOURS OF SERVICE. >> 1500 OR 15,000.

>> $1500 EVERY TWO WEEKS. THAT NUMBER DOES NOT ALIGN WITH

OUR CURRENT PAY SCHEDULE. >> FOR THE COORDINATOR?

>> YES SIR. >> IS THE COURT NADER POSITION WHAT WE HAD INSTRUCTED TO GO DO THAT WE GAVE COMMISSIONER MAREZ AND GONZALEZ THE AUTHORITY? THIS IS JUST GOING BACK AND

DOING THE PAPERWORK? >> YES SIR.

>> THE COORDINATOR POSITION IS THE ACTING DIRECTOR AND ÃÃLET

ME DO THAT ONE FIRST. >> IT WOULD NOT BE AN ACTING DIRECTOR. WE DECIDED TO MAKE IT JUST A

COORDINATING POSITION. >> HE WOULD STILL BE A

SUPERVISOR. >> THE MONITOR OF THE ANIMAL SERVICES CENTER WAS AGREED TO BE A DAY AND INTERIM.

UNTIL WE IDENTIFY A PERMANENT POSITION FOR ANIMAL SERVICES

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MANAGER. >> I GUESS THESE ARE JUST JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND SO FORTH BUT IS IT GERMANE TO TALK ABOUT THE OTHER STUFF OR SHOULD I WAIT FOR ITEM 3 ON THE FACILITY? WE GOT TWO ITEMS ON HERE I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY ON WHICHEVER ONE IS CORRECT OR BOTH.

IT SAYS RELATED MATTERS WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE OTHER STUFF GOING ON BECAUSE I HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS ON THAT.

>> THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO I BELIEVE THIS POSITION YOU BRINGING THIS POSITION IS ADDRESSING THE OTHER THINGS THAT I PERCEIVE YOU ARE WANTING TO DISCUSS SO.

>> IF WE WANT TO STAY ON THIS I DON'T HUNDRED OFFICE BECAUSE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE STUFF WHOEVER HAD BEEN WORKING ON THIS IN REGARDS TO THIS, HOW DO WE WANT TO DO THAT? DO WE WANT TO TACKLE THIS BECAUSE I READ THIS I LOOKED AT IT BUT I'M REALLY RELYING ON THE HR DIRECTOR TO COME UP WITH JOB DESCRIPTIONS NOW. IF YOU BELIEVE THIS MEETS THE NEEDS, WHICH IT SEEMED TO TO ME BUT IF YOU BELIEVE IT MEETS THE NEEDS OF WHAT WE WANTED AS A COURT UNTIL WE GOT THE PERMANENT, THEN I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

THE PAY ON THIS IS WHAT? I THOUGHT WE WERE PAYING THIS PERSON THE SAME WE WERE PAYING JUAN DURING THE INTERIM.

>> THIS IS A LOWER LEVEL POSITION.

WHICH WILL BE BETWEEN A GROUP 19 AND 20 AND ONE WAS A PAY GROUP 26. WE WANT THIS INTERIM PERSON TO SUPERVISE THE CURRENT OPERATIONS WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF ÃUNTIL WE IDENTIFY A PERMANENT POSITION.

>> IT'S A CONTRACT BASIS. >> HOW DO WE GET SOMEBODY FOR THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT HAS EXPERIENCE IN THIS BUSINESS?

>> WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED 70. >> THAT'S GOOD.

SHE HAS CERTIFICATION AS AN ANIMAL SERVICES CONTROL

OFFICER. >> IS AT 40 HOURS A WEEK?

>> YES SIR. >> NO NO NO NO, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT IT WAS ABOUT A TEMP POSITION WHICH IS 29 HOURS PER

WEEK, THAT'S DIFFERENT. >> OKAY.

OKAY FOR 29 HOURS A WEEK IT'S 3000.

>>. >> PAY GROUP 18.

>> IT WOULD BE 1859 WHICH WILL COST ABOUT 1330 EVERY TWO WEEKS BUT IN CONSIDERATION OF THE TEMPORARY WORKER, WHICH CAN ONLY WORK A MAXIMUM OF $29 WE WOULD NEED AN EXCEPTION FROM THE COURT TO APPROVE 40 HOURS IN THAT POSITION AS WELL AS EXCEPTION FROM THE COURT TO CLASSIFY THIS TEMPORARY EMPLOYEE TO BE PAID MORE THAN 90% CENTMAC'S CURRENTLY IN OUR POLICY FOR TEMPORARY SERVICES WORKERS.

>> DOES NOT INCLUDE BENEFITS? DO THEY GET BENEFITS?

>> NO BENEFITS FOR THE PROCESS POSITION.

>> I'M LOST. IS A 29 HOURS A WEEK OR 40

HOURS A WEEK. >> CURRENTLY THE POLICY æ

>> IS THIS PROPOSAL 29 HOURS A WEEK?

>> IT SHOULD BE A TEMP POSITION FOR 29 HOURS, 29 HOURS YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY BENEFITS, WE USE THIS ÃÃTO CONTINUE WHAT THE COURTS DECIDE TO DO WITH THIS FACILITY IF WE WANT TO HIRE THE MANAGER OR WE WANT TO SEEK A DIFFERENT WAY TO HELP WITH THE FACILITY THROUGH A CONTRACT, IS WHAT THE COURT

DECIDES. >> THIS IS FOR 29 HOURS A WEEK.

>> THAT SHOULD BE FOR TEMP FOR 29 HOURS A WEEK.

>> AT THIS RATE. >> $18.59.

>> THAT'S BEEN AGREED TO BY THIS PERSON AND Y'ALL ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS PERSON WHICH WE CHARGE Y'ALL WITH, I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR 29 HOURS AT THE PAY RATE YOU

ARTICULATED. >> PAY GROUP 19 WITH THE DOLLAR PER HOUR $18.59. WE ARE JUST SEEKING HERE TO GET JUSTICE TEMP POSITION. WE ARE NOT DOING NOTHING WITH

THE MANAGER? >> THAT'S ON HERE TOO.

>> YES. >> THIS PARTICULAR ONE, THAT'S WHY ASIDE CAN WE DO THIS ONE FIRST.

THIS IS JUST FOR THE ANIMAL SERVICES COURT NADER, I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE ANIMAL SERVICES COORDINATOR AS IT'S BEEN ARTICULATED AT 29 HOURS A WEEK, PAY GROUP 19, UNTIL WE HIRE A PERMANENT OR WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO

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DIRECTOR FOR THE ANIMAL CARE SERVICES CENTER.

>> SECOND. >> ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GET AN APPROVAL FOR THE EXCEPTION WITH THE TEMPORARY SERVICES WORKER THE MAX CAP IS 90% OF THE CURRENT RATE PER OUR POLICY WHICH WOULD BE $16.73 AN HOUR SO WE NEED THE COURT æ

>> ACCORDING TO OUR POLICY THERE'S A WAIVER AND REQUIREMENT THAT TEMPORARY WORKERS WOULD BE COMPENSATED ONLY AT 90% OF THE BASE PAY RATE GRADE AND STAFF AS

AUTHORIZED. >> OR WE COULD GO A DIFFERENT

STEP. >> IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF STEP IT'S A MATTER OF THE 90% CAP WHICH WOULD BE 1673 INSTEAD

OF 1859. >> GO TO THE NEXT STEP THEN YOU HAVE A 90% CAP AND YOU'RE NOT MAKING EXCEPTION TO THE POLICY.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> EITHER WAY IS FINE WITH ME BUT THAT'S THE MOTION ON THIS AND THAT IF WE WANT TO MAKE THE EXCEPTION WE CAN DO THAT A SEPARATE MOTION.

>> THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT THE ANIMAL CONTROL COORDINATOR POSITION, A PAY GROUP OF 19.

29 HOURS A WEEK. AND THEY ARE CONSIDERED TO BE A TEMP. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY

AYE. >> AYE.

>> ALL OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. >> CAN WE TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS SO I DON'T KILL YOUR QUORUM.

>> WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A 10 MINUTE

>> IT'S A TEMP POSITION IT'S NOTLIKE THE COURT IS APPROVING A NEW POSITION THIS IS A DIFFERENT CATEGORY FOR THE

PROJECT , IT'S AS A TEMP. >> WE ARE GOOD TO GO.

>> WE HAVE DISCUSSED 48 HOURS A WEEK BUT THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO UNDER CONTRACT SERVICES.

BECAUSE THIS IS TEMPORARY, A TEMPORARY POSITION WE CAN ONLY

DO 28. >> SINCE IT'S A TEMP POSITION TO STILL FALL UNDER THE SIX-MONTH PROBATION?

>> YES SIR. >> LET ME CORRECT THAT, THE ANSWER IS NO. THE TEMPORARY POSITION MAY HAVE

A MAX OF 90 DAYS. >> IT'S ONLY GOOD FOR 90 DAYS.

>> THE TEMPORARY POSITION IS GOOD FOR 90 DAYS AND ARE SUPPOSED TO BRING BACK TO COURT FOR PREAPPROVAL.

>> AT THE 90 DAYS WE NEED TO BRING THIS POSITION.

>> YOU HAVE A MAX NUMBER OF THREE TIMES?

>> CORRECT. WE HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THE COURT EACH TIME FOR APPROVAL OF EXTENSION.

>> CAN I GO INTO SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS ON THE ALLEGATION?

>> AVAILABLE AT THE BOTTOM? >> THE OTHER ONE IS ON THE

FACILITY. >> NUMBER ONE THE INACCURATE STATEMENT THAT WAS MADE EARLIER BY THE PERSON IN PUBLIC COMMENT WAS THAT THE BOARD WAS TOLD NOT TO MEET THAT'S 100% INACCURATE IN FACT, I'M VERY BOTHERED THAT THIS ADVISORY BOARD HAS NOT MET THEY ARE HOLDOVERS THEY HAVE ALL ABILITIES IN FACT THEY HAVE NOT MET IS VERY CONCERNING TO ME SO I DON'T KNOW WHO TOLD I CHECK WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER AND COUNTY ATTORNEY AND OF THE PEOPLE AND NO ONE HAS ADVISED THE ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD NOT TO MEET IF THEY ARE NOT MEETING THEY ARE NOT DOING WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING AND THEY NEED TO START MEETING IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE THEY ARE HOLDOVERS BY LAW THEY ARE STILL

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ON THE BOARD AND SHOULD STILL BE MEETING.

IF IT'S NOT THEN THE BOARD IS NOT DOING ITS DUTY I WOULD HOPE THEY WOULD START MEETING THE NEW COORDINATOR MY UNDERSTANDING WILL BE IN CHARGE AND WILL WORK WITH ALL VOLUNTEERS ON AN EQUAL BASIS MOVING FORWARD.

THAT PERSON WILL BE IN CHARGE. THE BOARD I APPRECIATE THE SERVICE OF THE BOARD BUT THEY ARE NOT IN CHARGE OF THE ANIMAL SERVICES CONTROL THEY ARE AN ADVISORY BOARD.

THE COORDINATOR WILL BE IN CHARGE AND WILL WORK WITH VOLUNTEERS AND DETERMINE HOW THEY WILL BE WORKING WITH, IF THAT'S NOT TRUE SOMEONE NEEDS TO CORRECTLY.

IT'S BEEN ALLEGED BY THE SPEAKER EARLIER, IN A VERY INAPPROPRIATE EMAIL I RESPONDED TO WE DON'T INVESTIGATE ALL ALLEGATIONS WE HAVE SPECIFIC BIAS TOWARDS MS. MILLER AND HER ALLEGATIONS, QUITE THE CONTRARY, I DON'T EVEN READ IT MS. MILLER OR MS. PACO'S EMAIL ANYMORE.

UNDERNEATH IT VERY PUBLICLY AND TRANSPARENCY SO YOU ARE VERY AWARE I FORWARD THEM TO THE COUNTY MANAGER AND I LET HER LOOK AT THEM BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND HAD NO CONTACT WITH MS. MILLER OTHER THAN PASSING THE EMAILS ONTO THE COUNTY MANAGER I'VE HAD NO CONTACT MR. ROCKHOLD OTHER THAN THE SAME WAY.

PERSONALLY, I AM SICK AND TIRED OF THE DRAMA THAT CIRCULATES AROUND THAT ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY CENTER.

IT HAS HEARD NOTHING MORE THAN ANIMALS INVOLVED AND WE ARE WORKING HARD WE HAVE INVESTIGATED EVERY ALLEGATION WE SPENT MORE TIME ON THIS THING, AND SHE'S GONE OUT THERE TRYING TO FACILITATE THIS ON THE COURT'S BEHALF BECAUSE WE AS A COURT HAVE GREAT VALUE AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THE ANIMALS ARE TAKEN CARE OF. AND EVERY SINGLE ALLEGATIONS HAS BEEN INVESTIGATED. SOME HAVE PROVEN TO BE FRIVOLOUS ALLEGATIONS, SOME HAVE PROVEN TO BE EXACT ALLEGATIONS AND SOME HAVE BEEN IN BETWEEN.

IF YOU HAVE ALLEGATIONS YOU CAN LET THE HR DIRECTOR KNOW OR LET THE COUNTY MANAGER KNOW AND SHE WILL INVESTIGATE THEM JUST LIKE WE'VE INVESTIGATED EVERY OTHER ALLEGATION BUT I AM TIRED OF ALL THE CRAP THAT IS CENTERED AROUND THIS ANIMAL SERVICES THING. AND ABOUT 80% SAID HAS BEEN RUBBISH IT HAS BEEN A WASTE OF THE COUNTIES TIME AND IT HAS BEEN A WASTE OF THE COURT TIME IT'S BEEN A WASTE OF EVERYBODY'S TIME, WE ARE THERE TO SERVE THE ANIMALS, I'M NOT THERE TO SERVE YOU LIKE I SHOULD BE OR MS. MILLER OR MS. BUCKLED I AM HERE TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COUNTY AND THE ANIMALS, THEY ARE NOT MY CONSTITUENTS BUT THAT'S THE CHARGE I BELIEVE WE HAVE AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE MORE THAN UPHELD OUR CHARGE BECAUSE WE HAVE SPENT MORE TIME ON THIS DEPARTMENT THAN ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT IN NUECES COUNTY, BAR NONE. MAYBE ANY OTHER TIMES 2. THIS CONTINUES TO GO ON SO LET ME REPEAT, THE BOARD SHOULD HAVE BEEN MEETING IT NEEDS TO BE MEETING, WE WILL PUT THE I TOLD MY ASSISTANT TO GET WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER WE WILL PUT THOSE BACK ARM TO GET THOSE REAPPOINTED OR NOT REAPPOINTED BUT THE BOARD SHOULD HAVE COULD HAVE AND THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT BEEN MEETING ALL THIS TIME IS VERY DISTURBING TO ME.

THE NEW COORDINATOR WILL BE IN CHARGE, NOT THE BOARD, NOT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, YOU CAN BRING ALL THE ALLEGATIONS YOU WANT, ANYBODY IN THE COUNTY CAN BRING ALLEGATIONS THAT THEY ARE LEGITIMATE WE ARE GOING TO FIND OUT AND GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT. AND WE WILL INVESTIGATE ALL OF THEM EQUALLY. TO THE DRUG ONE SET ME OFF MORE THAN THE REST, YOU BET. WE ARE MISHANDLING DRUGS, THAT'S BEEN INVESTIGATED THAT'S BEEN RECTIFIED, THAT WAS IMMEDIATELY JUMPED ON, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS LIKE THAT'S WERE MADE THAT EVERY OTHER ALLEGATION HAS BEEN ADDRESSED. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY BOTH OF Y'ALL TO TELL THIS COURT AND THE PUBLIC ALL THAT YOU BEEN DOING JUST SINCE OUR LAST MEETING IN REGARDS TO GETTING THIS DONE SO YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE YOU BEEN ACCUSED OF THINGS THAT I KNOW ARE NOT TRUE SO I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY IN A PUBLIC SETTING SO IT'S ON THE RECORD AND OUT THERE AND ANYBODY WANTS TO SPECULATE THEY CAN SPECULATE ALL THEY WANT BUT ALL THE SPECULATION ABOUT 80% IS

GARBAGE. >> I WANTED TO SAY PUBLICLY THAT THE COUNTY JUDGE AND ENTIRE COMMISSIONS COURT AS YOU

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HAVE CORRECTLY STATED HAS BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN THIS AND THE CONCERNS RECORDED BY THE ANIMAL SERVICES CENTER.

I HAVE THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATED EACH AND EVERY CONCERN THAT EXISTED I'VE BEEN THERE MULTIPLE TIMES I WORKED WITH COMMISSIONER GONZALES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONCERNS ARE ADDRESSED FRIDAY WE TRANSFER THE ANIMAL SERVICES MANAGER TO

ANOTHER DEPARTMENT AND. >> AT HIS REQUEST YES, SIR.

WE HAVE CURRENT PLANS UNDERWAY TO ENSURE THE ONGOING PROPER CARE AND SERVICES TO ANIMAL SERVICES SHELTER TO ENSURE THE CONCERNS CONTINUE TO BE MONITORED AND CORRECTLY

ADDRESSED. >> THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION GOING AROUND. WHAT MATTERS TO ME AFTER THE COURT IS GET THE JOB DONE. WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF THE DEPARTMENT WE ARE WORKING REALLY HARD WITH HR AND THE COURT AND EVERYBODY, SO TAKING CARE OF THE PREPARATIONS FOR THE CENTER AND THE ANIMALS SO WE ARE WORKING.

EVERY SINGLE TIME SOMETHING HAPPENS I GIVE THE INFORMATION TO THE COURT. YESTERDAY I SPENT MY DAY AT THE FACILITY AND PROVIDING ALL THE ASSISTANCE THAT I HAVE TO THE STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS FROM THE COMMUNITY. I THINK BECAUSE OF THE MISCOMMUNICATION OR MISLEADING SOMETHING BUT JUST TO SEND A MESSAGE, WE ARE WORKING AND WE ARE WORKING AND WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS PROGRESS. WE DON'T GET ANYTHING PUTTING THE STUFF UP THERE TO PUT PEOPLE AGAINST EACH OTHER.

THAT'S NEVER GOING TO WORK. WORKING TOGETHER AS WHEN WE MAKE THE PROGRESS. THAT'S WHY I'M WORKING WITH THE STAFF AND THEN SINCE WE HAVE THE BOARD MEETINGS AGAIN, JUST WORKING WITH THE ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH IS ESSENTIAL FOR THIS COMMUNITY AS WELL. WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING TOGETHER AND I'M OPEN TO WORK WITH ALL OF THEM, THAT IS MY POLICY, WORKING WITH EVERYBODY, WORKING TOGETHER AND THAT IF THE POLICY AS WELL, WORKING AND MAKING PROGRESS.

WE ARE WORKING, THAT'S THE MESSAGE I WANT TO CENTER THE

COMMUNITY. >> I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME LAST WEEK TO VISIT THE COMPOUND, I WAS PLEASED THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING. IN THE WAY YOU HANDLE THINGS.

FOR THAT I THINK YOU VERY MUCH AND LETTING ME KNOW WHAT'S

GOING ON. >> YES COMMISSIONER.

>> THANK YOU. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY A COUPLE THINGS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME IN THE COMMITTEE AND YOUR TIME SPENT BUT I ALSO WANT TO THANK MOSTLY SALLY AND ÃFOR BEING HANDS-ON IN THIS WHOLE THING FOR THE LAST ALMOST THREE WEEKS. SEEMS LIKE A MONTH.

A LOT OF THE EXTRA TIME WE SPENT ON THE PHONE TALKING BACK AND FORTH TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO.

I THINK WE FINALLY CAME UP WITH A GOOD SOLUTION THE COORDINATOR WILL BE THE ONE RUNNING THE SHOW FOR NOW.

IF THEY ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THAT THEY CAN COME TO THE ADMINISTRATOR. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND ALSO JEANNIE THANK YOU FOR YOUR GUIDANCE IN PROVIDING US WITH YOUR LEGAL CAPACITY A LOT OF TIME SPENT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE AND A LOT OF EXTRA TIME AS FAR AS THE VOLUNTEERS I JUST WANT TO SAY I GOT CALLS THAT WE ARE KILLING DOGS, KILLING THIS, KILLING ANIMALS THAT WE CARE AND MY RESPONSE HADN'T READ THE EMAILS ANYMORE EITHER BUT MY RESPONSE TO SAY I CARE ABOUT THE ANIMALS I SAID I CARE ABOUT THE ANIMALS AND OUR STAFF.

I WISH YOU WOULD CARE ABOUT OUR STAFF TOO.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE DEPARTMENT BACK INTO OPERATIONS. GET ALL THE STRESS OUT.

CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD. WHILE WE ARE DOING THAT, WE ARE STILL TAKING PICTURES OF THE DOGS.

I HAVE COPIES OF PICTURES OF THOSE DOGS.

ARE NOT LIKE EVERY THING WAS A STANDSTILL.

I DON'T THINK ANY DOG DIED. OR CAT.

I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DID.

[1. Discuss and consider approving recommended funding source and cost estimate of $281,250.00 for Constable Precinct 5, Calderon Building Renovation Project; Discuss and consider authorizing Public Works to obtain cooperative bids as the method of procurement.]

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DISCUSDISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING RECOMMENDED FUNDING SOURCE AND COST ESTIMATE OF $281,250.00 FOR CONSTABLE PRECINCT 5, CALDERON BUILDING RENOVATION PROJECT; DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING PUBLIC WORKS TO OBTAIN COOPERATIVE BIDS AS THE METHOD OF PROCUREMENT.

>> SO MOVED. >> A MOTION TO SOME DO I HEAR A SECOND. SECOND.

>> ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY

[2. Discuss and consider approval of the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) Funding Source for Public Works (Equipment) in the amount of $762,067.00. ]

AYE. >> AYE.

>> ALL OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIED.

NUMBER 2, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT (ARPA) FUNDING SOURCE FOR PUBLIC WORKS (EQUIPMENT) IN THE AMOUNT OF $762,067.00. TO MAKE IT CLEAR, THE COURT HAS ALREADY APPROVED 600,000 SO WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR IS AN

ADDITION OF $162,067. >> IT WAS APPROVED BACK IN

APRIL 26. >> RIGHT NOW WE NEED $162,000 AND 62 ÃÃWHERE IS THAT COMING FROM?

>> WE ARE REQUESTING AN ALLEGATION FROM EITHER COMMISSIONERS COURT OR FROM COUNTYWIDE FUNDS.

WHICH JEFF IS DISTRIBUTING ALL THE BALANCES RIGHT NOW.

>> I THOUGHT WE ALREADY ALLOCATED MONEY.

>> WE ARE REQUESTING ADDITIONAL 162 TO COVER THE REMAINDER IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO DONATE 162,000 ÃÃLAUGHING)

>> MY MOTION IS THAT WE USE THE ARCO FUNDS.

>> THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> ALL OPPOSED.

>> WE ARE STILL KEEPING TRACK. >> OKAY.

MOTION PASSED. THANK YOU.

[3. Discuss and consider pausing work on Animal Care Facility Project, and any related matters.]

MEMBER 3, PUBLIC WORKS, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PAUSING WORK ON ANIMAL CARE FACILITY PROJECT, AND ANY RELATED MATTERS. THIS

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IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO SAY WE NEED TO COME BACK AND SEE SO WERE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE SMALL FACILITY NOW I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO DISCUSS MAYBE HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL

MEETING FOR THIS. >> I'M OKAY WITH PAUSING.

THERE HASN'T BEEN TOO MUCH WORK BEEN DONE UNTIL THIS MOMENT WHEN WE REESTABLISH TO RETURN THIS TEMPORARY POSITION INTO PERMANENT DIRECTOR OR GO OUT AND SEARCH FOR A NEW DIRECTOR OR POSSIBLY CONSOLIDATE. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS TO DO ANIMAL SERVICE. THE CASE REMAINS THAT WE DO NEED A NEW FACILITY. IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE TO MY OFFICE RIGHT IN THE BACK IT'S PUBLIC WORKS AND ANIMAL CARE AND IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE KENNELS YOU WILL SEE IT'S AN OLDER FACILITY AND DESERVES SOMETHING MORE CENTRALIZED AND THAT IS SOMETHING NEW THAT HELPS KEEP BETTER HEALTH FOR THE ANIMALS THE LOCATION WE HAVE SELECTED WHICH IS NEXT TO THE OLD SHOW BARN WHICH IS BUSINESS 77 HIGHWAY BEFORE BASICALLY AT THE CURVE AS YOU COME INTO TOWN IT'S A GOOD LOCATION. IF I GIVE YOU DIRECTIONS I WILL TELL YOU MY FIRST DAY ON THE JOB WHEN I WENT TO THE ROB'S TOP OFFICE IT WAS HARD TO FIND. THE ADDRESS IS NOT KNOWN OR EASY ROAD FARM ROAD WHICH BACK IN THE DAY PROBABLY WAS USEFUL BUT NOW IT'S NOT. BUT MOVING THE FACILITY TO WHERE WE HAD SELECTED LAST YEAR THAT WAS MAKING IT TOOK AT LEAST 2 TO 3 YEARS OF PLANNING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

THE 4.2 WAS DOWN FROM THE ORIGINAL 5 MILLION OR 6 MILLION THAT WAS INITIALLY PROPOSED. MOST OF THIS WAS FUNDING THAT WE SCALE BACK BASED ON WHAT THE COURT HAD SAID WHICH WAS DUE MORE WITH LESS AND I THINK WE DID.

I SEE THE VALUE IN HOLDING OFF UNTIL WE GET A BETTER IDEA OF HOW WE ARE GOING TO MANAGER FACILITY BUT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE MY OPINION ON KEEPING THE FACILITY.

HOW LONG DO WE HOLD OFF, DO WE CANNIBALIZE THIS PROJECT FOR THE SAKE OF THE BUDGET. I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR.

IF WE GO THAT ROUTE YOU WILL HAVE A FIGHT ON YOUR HANDS BUT IF YOU SAY WE NEED TO PAUSE TO FIND OUT WHO THE MANAGEMENT WILL BE THEN I AM ALL FOR THAT. BUT TO TAKE FROM THIS PROJECT TO USE FOR ANYTHING ELSE, I'M CONCERNED.

MAYBE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHERE WE ARE GOING TODAY BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON RECORD THAT THAT IS NOT THE REASON FOR US TO DO THAT IT'S MERELY BECAUSE HE HAD A CHANGE IN STAFF AND A PART-TIME DIRECTOR OR MANAGER THERE AT THE FACILITY NOW AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS START BACK UP AT SOME POINT MAYBE THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

ANY CONSTRUCTION DELAY THE PRICE IS GOOD TO GO UP FURTHER.

>> IQ COMMISSIONER. I AGREE WITH YOU WE DO NEED A NEW FACILITY BUT 4 MILLION VERSUS MAYBE 1.5 OR WHATEVER.

AND DISCUSS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO FOR AN OUTSOURCE WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT NEED TO COME UP DURING DISCUSSIONS. WHAT DIRECTIONS ARE WE GOING TO TAKE TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS? DEFINITELY WE NEED A NEW BILL. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GO BACK AND REVISIT. WE ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE STAFF AND THEN YOU HAVE MORE STAFF.

I LIKE THE IDEA THAT YOU SAID, WE NEED TO HOLD OUR BUTT UP TO THE FISCAL YEAR AND THEN COME BACK.

>> IS IT 60 DAYS OR 90 DAYS WE HAVE FOR THE NEW POSITION WE

JUST CREATED? >> THAT'S THE 90 DAYS.

>> THAT WORKS PERFECTLY I THINK WITH THE END OF THE FISCAL

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YEAR, A FEW MONTHS IS NOT GOING TO MAKE A CHANGE IN MY OPINION ON THIS BUT ANYTIME WE DELAY ON ANY TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION WHETHER IT BE THIS OR EVEN ÃÃ YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE PRICE GOING UP ON MATERIALS AND THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH THIS. I'M OKAY WITH TAKING A PAUSE UNTIL WE GET SOME STABILITY AND WE AS A COURT MAKE A DECISION ON A PERMANENT DIRECTOR OR WHATEVER THE NEXT STEP SHOULD

BE. >>.

>> THE COURT PREVIOUSLY HAD VOTED TO DO A CFP FOR THE ANIMAL CARE FACILITY AND MY OFFICE HAS BEEN ACTIVELY WORKING ON THAT PROJECT AND WE ARE CLOSE TO ADVERTISING FOR ITSELF PLEASE INCLUDE AN INSTRUCTION TO PURCHASING IF WE ARE GOING TO PAUSE SO I CAN LET MY STAFF KNOW TO PAUSE WE ARE ABOUT TO PROBABLY RUN AN AD ON FRIDAY.

>> THE MOTION WOULD BE TO HOLD FOR 90 DAYS AND WE CAN COME BACK AND REVISIT HOPEFULLY BY THEN WE ALSO HAVE A NEW

DIRECTOR. >> ALL WORK?

>> YES. DEFINITELY.

IS THERE A SECOND EYE? >> SPECIFIC DATE ON THAT I KNOW WE ARE TALKING 90 DAYS BUT WHAT WOULD THE NEXT COURT MEETING BE AFTER THAT? I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE ACTION BY THEN WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH OUR BUDGET AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

>> I WILL SECOND. >> HE WANTS A SPECIFIC DATE.

>> WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THE LAST WEEK IN SEPTEMBER.

>> 90 DAYS WOULD BE 21 SEPTEMBER 22ND OF SEPTEMBER.

THE NEXT MEETING WOULD BE THE 27TH.

>> MOTION TO CONSIDER POSITIVE WORK ON THE ANIMAL CARE FACILITY PROJECT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 27 WHERE THE COURT WILL TAKE ACTION TO, DELETE DIRECT STAFF OR YOU WERE ALREADY GOING FORWARD WITH IT? WHAT DO WE NEED TO PUT INTO

MOTION? >>.

>> WHEN YOU BRING IT BACK ON THE 27TH INCLUDE SOME LANGUAGE THAT SAYS IN YOUR MOTION IF YOU WISH FOR US TO RESUME THE ACTIVITIES THAT WERE ALREADY APPROVED BY THE COURT I WOULDN'T NEED NEW APPROVAL AT THAT POINT.

>> THIS IS ENOUGH PAUSE FOR YOU?

>> YES, I APPRECIATE IT. >> THAT'S MY MOTION.

>> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> ALL OPPOSED. >> I THINK THAT IN BETWEEN WE PROBABLY NEED TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING TO DISCUSS STRICTLY THE FACILITY AND NOTHING ELSE BUT THAT.

>> YOU KNOW WHAT WAS THE BREAKDOWN OF THE FUNDING? WHAT WERE ALL OF THE SOURCES FOR THE FOLLOWING?

æ >> ,2020.

>> I BELIEVE SOME. >> WHAT WAS THE BREAKDOWN?

I THOUGHT IT COULD SOMETHING. >> I CAN LOOK THAT UP, GIVE ME

JUST WANTS TO MAKE A MOMENT. >> WE DON'T HAVE ANY EXTRA CLICKS THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE DID FOR THE LIBRARY WE PUT EXTRA MONEY FOR THAT WORKS DID NOT DO THE JOB DESCRIPTION.

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>> WE ALREADY PASSED A MOTION. WE NEED TO GO BACK TO ANIMAL CARE. ALL INFO ÃON NOVEMBER THE MOTION TO AMICABLY STOP MOTION PASSED.'M GOING TO GO BACK TO HR THE ANIMAL CONTROL MANAGER.

>> THE REQUEST IS TO POST THE ANIMAL SERVICES MANAGER POSITION AS WELL AS WE'VE ALREADY GOT PERMISSION FROM ANIMAL SERVICES CORRELATOR PHYSICIAN.

SO WE CAN SEEK TO IDENTIFY A REPLACEMENT MAYBE THE COMMISSIONER COURT HAS THE JOB DESCRIPTION FROM ANIMAL

SERVICES MANAGER. >> I'M NOT CLEAR IF THE COURT WANTS TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE THIS POSITION OPENED YET? I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU TO SEEK WHAT OTHER OPTIONS THE COURT COULD HAVE. I BELIEVE WE WERE TALKING TO

I'M HELPING AS WELL. >> IF ORGAN OF THE BIGGER PICTURE DISCUSSION REGARDING WHAT WE DO WITH ANIMAL SERVICES WE WANT TO POST A POSITION OR POSITION THAT MIGHT NOT BE THERE IF WE DECIDE TO CONSOLIDATE WITH ROB'S TOWN OVER TO THE HUMANE SOCIETY THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. WE WANT TO WAIT AND USE THE ACTING COORDINATOR FOR A WHILE AND NOT POST THE POSITION?

>> IT WOULD BE TO OUR ADVANTAGE TO ALREADY POST THE POSITION AND POSSIBLY HAVE SOMEONE IDENTIFIED WHILE WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS SO WE DON'T HAVE ADDITIONAL DELAY.

>> WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO BRING OPTIONS IF YOU POST A POSITION FOR THE TEMPLE WORKING WITH THAT PERSON THAT BRING TO THE COURT NEXT MONTH THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE.

>> WHEN WE GO AHEAD AND TABLE AT THE 12TH AND COME UP WITH

RECOMMENDATION. >> THAT WOULD BE THE BEST RIGHT

NOW. >> THE JUDGE WILL BE BACK.

>> OKAY. MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL JULY 12.

>> SECOND. >> TABLE ANIMAL SERVICES

MANAGER POSITION UNTIL JULY 12. >> SECOND.

>> EVERYBODY IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIED. I THINK WE ARE GOING TO

[1. Discuss and consider approving an order granting an exemption to competitive bidding requirements and approving a sole source purchase from Dailey and Wells Communications, Inc., in the amount of $56,167.40, for P25 Phase II System Upgrade software for law enforcement radio system.]

PURCHASING. NUMBER 1, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING AN ORDER GRANTING AN EXEMPTION TO COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS AND APPROVING A SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE FROM DAILEY AND WELLS COMMUNICATIONS, INC., IN THE AMOUNT OF $56,167.40, FOR P25 PHASE II SYSTEM UPGRADE SOFTWARE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT RADIO SYSTEM.

THE MONEY COMES FROM CAPITAL PROJECTS.

>> THAT'S 1923 A DETERRENT ÃÃ THIS IS TO PUT SOME REMAINING RADIOS WE HAVE WITH THE MOST CURRENT SOFTWARE SO THEY CAN RECEIVE THE P 25 UPGRADE THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED BY COURT.

AS SOON AS THE COURT APPROVES WE CAN GET ON THE SCHEDULE WITH THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI TO GET SEPARATED FROM ENFORCEMENT.

>> SOMOS. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION N ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[2. Discuss and consider approving a BuyBoard Contract No. 670-22 with Galls, LLC in the amount of $136,710.36 for the purchase of eighteen (18) ballistic shields for Nueces County Law Enforcement use.]

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>> AYE. >> ALL OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

MOTION PASSED. NUMBER 2 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT (ARPA) FUNDING SOURCE FOR PUBLIC WORKS (EQUIPMENT) IN THE AMOUNT OF $762,067.00.

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING A BUYBOARD CONTRACT NO. 670-22

[3. Discuss and consider conditional selection for a Bulk Diesel and Unleaded Fuel Contract (IFB-3236-23).]

WITH GALLS, LLC IN THE AMOUNT OF $136,710.36 FOR THE PURCHASE OF EIGHTEEN (18) BALLISTIC SHIELDS FOR NUECES COUNTY LAW

ENFORCEMENT USE. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> ALL OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

OTION >> THIS ONE WILL RECEIVE TWO BIDS RECOMMENDATION IS TO CONDITIONALLY SELECT THE LOWEST AND BEST BIDS SUBMITTED BY THE OIL COMPANY TO LIMITED FOR BOTH DIESEL CONDITIONALLY SELECT THE LOWEST AND BEST BID SUBMITTED BY THE OIL COMPANY TO LIMITED FOR BOTH DIESEL AND THE EXPENSE WILL BE PAID BY USER

[4. Discuss and consider conditional selection for RFP 3235-23 Grant Management Services for Disaster Recovery (ARPA, COVID & FEMA PA).]

DEPOSITED . >> SOMOS.

>> SECOND. >> WE APPROVE NUMBER THREE UNDER PURCHASING. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ALL OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.OTION PASSED.

NUMBER OF 4 WILL BE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CONDITIONAL SELECTION FOR RFP 3235-23 GRANT MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR DISASTER RECOVERY (ARPA, COVID & FEMA PA). ).

>> THAT'S THE TABULATION SHEET. >> FOR THIS ITEM WILL RECEIVE SIX PROPOSALS THE SELECTION COMMITTEE REVIEW THE PROPOSALS AND YOU HAVE A SCORING SHEET BEFORE YOU.

THE SELECTION COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE THE COMMISSION REPORT MANAGER AND ADMINISTRATOR COUNTY ENGINEER AND EMERGENCY

MANAGEMENT. >> WHAT CAN WE DO TO DRAW FROM A FULL. NOT SO MUCH BECAUSE THE GRANT WORK IS ALREADY DOING WORK FOR THE COUNTY ACCORDING TO SCOTT HE TALKS PRETTY HIGHLY ABOUT HIM.

AND REALLY HELPS A LOT I DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE OTHER THAN THE COST. I THINK THAT WE HAD A POLE OF THE TOP THREE WE COULD DRAW FROM WHEREVER WE WANTED TO DRAW

FROM. >> I BELIEVE THE BID WAS WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS THE COURT TO SELECT ONE HOUR OR MORE GRANT WORKS IS THE SECOND HIGHEST RECOMMENDED IF THE COURT WISHES TO HAVE MULTIPLE THEY CAN SELECT MORE THAN ONE.

AND THEN ENTER RETURN NEGOTIATIONS TO SET UP MASTERS AGREEMENT. IF ANYONE GETS CHOSEN AT A

LATER DATE. >> WHAT WE NEED 34?

I CAN SEE MAYBE TWO. >> IF WE WANT TO GO TO TWO.

>> I'M OPEN TO IT BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY TIGHT.

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>> THEY ARE FROM HOUSTON. >> I CAN HAVE THE COMMITTEE

MEMBERS GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS. >> WE CAN GO AHEAD AND I WOULD

RECOMMEND 99 AND 97. >> THEY WERE WITHIN TWO POINTS WITH EACH OTHER. TO BE FAIR, ACKNOWLEDGE WITHIN THE MOTION THE IMPACT WAS THE HIGHEST RATED OF THE TWO.

>> I WOULD MENTION THAT THE GRANT PRODUCTS AND THEIR PRICE POINTS THAT WAS PUBLISHED RECEIVED THE THIRD-HIGHEST IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSE OF THAT HELPS IMPACT THE RATING

OVERALL. >> THAT WILL BE BROUGHT OUT.

>> WHEN YOU BRING THE WORK THROUGH THIS YOU WILL SEE EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SIGNING UP FOR.

>> OBVIOUSLY THE COST IS IMPORTANT.

>> THE SELECTION COMMITTEE æ >> NOTING THE IMPACT STRATEGIES

WAS THE LOWEST COST. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND THAT WE ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND

ACTION. >>

(MULTIPLE SPEAKERS) >> FEMA IS PRETTY WIDE THAT'S WHERE YOU DEAL WITH MOST OF THE DISASTER.

>> MOSTLY HURRICANES. >>.

>> IMPACT, WHICH WAS RECOMMENDED, ACTUALLY HAVE THE SECOND BEST PRICE POINT, IS THAT CORRECT? THERE WERE TWO OTHERS AND THEN GRANT WORKS CAME IN FOURTH

PLACE. >> CORRECT.

THE OTHERS HAD SCORING THAT WAS NOT AS HIGH.

SO OVERALL IMPACT OF THE BEST SCORE.

>> THE COUNTY HAS WORKED WITH IMPACT IN THE PAST.

>> MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE MAYBE ANNA CAN HELP ME OR KATHY OR YOU MICHAEL. HOW DO YOU HAVE THAT BIG OF A DISCREPANCY IN PRICE? INDUSTRY PRETTY MUCH SET A CERTAIN AMOUNT I THOUGHT THERE WAS LIKE INDUSTRY-STANDARD.

I GUESS ARCHITECTS STILL HAVE DIFFERENT PRICING THAN WHAT THEY DID FOR ENGINEERS IS HAPPENING HERE? EACH COMPANY PROVIDED A LIST OF DIFFERENT PROFESSIONS IF YOU WILL. IT COULD BE TASKED ON A PARTICULAR SET OF WORK AND DEPENDING ON HOW THEY VALUE POSITIVE VISUALS, EACH COMPANY PROVIDED A DIFFERENT HOURLY

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RATE. I WOULD ASSUME IF YOU GET A MORE QUALIFIED INDIVIDUAL COMMAND A HIGHER RATE THAN

SOMEONE WITH LESS CREDENTIALS. >> THEY RANKED HIGHER IN OTHER

CATEGORIES THAN IMPACT? >> WE ARE SPLITTING HAIRS AT

THIS POINT. >> OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

GOOD POINT. SO IT'S TWO TIED FOR FIRST AND

THEN THE SECOND AND THE FOURTH. >> THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

[1. Approve Budget Change Order No. 16 for Fiscal Year 2022-2023. ]

ALL OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIED.

>> THANK YOU. >> F, AUDITOR.

>> I RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT BUDGET CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 16 FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL. ALL ITEMS ARE ROUTINE BUDGETARY NATURE OF THE BACKUP DOCUMENTATION DOES INCLUDE A SHORT NARRATIVE FROM THE DEPARTMENTS WITH THE PROPOSED WITH THE PURPOSE OF THE PROPOSAL AND REQUESTED CHANGE ORDER. IF COMMISSIONERS COURT DOESN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I WOULD REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.

>> I AM SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> GROUP AND SECOND THAT WE APPROVE THE CHANGE ORDER NUMBER

16, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE.

>> ALL OPPOSED SAME SIGN, MOTION PASSED.

[2. Approve Capital Project Budget Change Order # 122.]

>> I'M ALSO SUBMITTING CAPITAL PROJECT CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 122, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.

THE CAPITAL PROJECT CHANGE ORDER WILL INCREASE THE AVAILABLE BUDGETARY FUNDS FOR CAPITAL REVENUES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN RECEIVED, RECORDED AND DEPOSITED THAT COLLECTIVELY TOTAL ÃÃCOMMISSIONERS COURT HAS PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED $550,000 OF THE EARNED INTEREST REVENUES ON MAY 24 ITEM 3B1.

>> TELL ME AGAIN WHAT WE ARE DOING ON THIS?

>> IN PLAIN ENGLISH. >> WHENEVER WE RECEIVE REVENUES IN THE CAPITAL PROJECTS IT'S BUDGETED IN SECTION 2 DATE WHICH MEANS ANYTIME THE REVENUES ARE RECORDED WE THEN HAVE TO GO INCREASE THE BUDGET IN ORDER FOR YOU TO SPEND WE RECEIVE REVENUES THEY WERE DEPOSITED INTO THE BANK.

I'M NOT INCREASING OUR BUDGET SO YOU CAN GO BACK AND RE-SPEND THE FUNDS.HERE ARE A FEW THAT ARE ACTUALLY ALLOCATED DIRECTLY TO A PROJECT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE HILLTOP ROOF REPLACEMENT I BELIEVE THAT WAS A FEMA REIMBURSEMENT THAT WE FINALLY RECEIVED, I GAVE UP ON IT A LONG TIME AGO BUT WE GOT THE MONEY IN. WE RECEIVE THE REIMBURSEMENT FOR FEMA FOR THE PREVIOUS HILLTOP ROOF AND CEILING REPLACEMENT OF $125,000. SINCE THE FUNDS WERE REIMBURSING THE EXPENSES THAT OCCURRED IN THAT CAPITAL PROJECT, THEY ARE REIMBURSING THE CAPITAL PROJECT THAT IT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO REALLOCATE.

BUT YOU HAVE TO REIMBURSE WHERE THE EXPENSE HAPPENED.

THE REVENUE FOLLOWS æ >> WHO REIMBURSES THAT?

>> THE CAPITAL PROJECT 1921 1004 FOR THE HILLTOP ROOF REPLACEMENT WHEN YOU LOOK TO SEE WHERE THE ORIGINAL FUNDING

CAME FROM. >> I THOUGHT IT WAS FEMA.

>> NO, WE RECEIVED REIMBURSEMENT FROM I GOT TO SEE WHERE THE MONEY ORIGINALLY CAME FROM.

THERE WAS 192,192,556 THAT CAME FROM ÃÃTHAT WAS A TRANSFER

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IN. AND THEN I'M GOING TO LOOK FOR FUNDING CAME FROM WE PUT THE MONEY IN LONG BEFORE, IT'S BEFORE 2019 THAT WE PUT THE MONEY IN.

THIS SPREADSHEET CAN ONLY GO SO BIG.

I WILL FIND THE ORIGINAL FUNDING SOURCE OF THOSE REVENUES. WHENEVER I TRANSFERRED MY DATA OVER AT SEPTEMBER 25TH 2019, AND I DO HAVE THE PREVIOUS SPREADSHEETS IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GOING AND GETTING THOSE.

WHEN I TRANSFERRED IT OVER THERE WAS ALREADY 1.5 MILLION ALLOCATED TO THAT PROJECT SO I HAVE TO FIND WHERE THE FUNDING SOURCE OF THOSE ÃÃWHERE THE MONEY CAME FROM IF IT CAME FROM UNALLOCATED AND ONE OF THE INITIAL ALLOCATIONS OF NET CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDS THEN IT WOULD GO BACK TO UNALLOCATED.

IF IT CAME FROM ÃÃLET'S SAY EVERYBODY AND COMMISSIONERS COURT EACH CONTRIBUTED A PORTION IT WOULD THEN BE AVAILABLE TO GO BACK WE STOPPED YOU WOULD REDISTRIBUTE THE FUNDS IN THE SAME MANNER FROM WHICH I CAME.

>> I DON'T THINK THEY CONTRIBUTED.

>> I CAN GET WITH YOU AFTER COMMISSIONERS COURT BECAUSE I HAVE THE SPREADSHEET ON MY COMPUTER IT'S JUST GONNA TAKE A WHILE TO GET THERE. THE ONLY OTHER ÃÃTHE JUDGE ALSO HAD TWO TXDOT FUNDED PROJECTS WITHIN FIVE YEARS OF THE PROJECT COMPLETING TXDOT IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE AN AUDIT OF THE AGREED-UPON CONTRACT ITEMS OF THE JOINT VENTURE.

OVER AT THE AIRPORT, ONE OF THEM WAS YOU ALL AND THE OTHER ONE WAS I THINK THE HANGER.

THEY REALIZED THEY HAD FUNDING LEFT OVER FROM THAT PROJECT AND REDISTRIBUTED IT BACK TO US. FIVE YEARS AFTER CLOSES.

>> IT CAME OUT IT WAS ORIGINALLY ALLOCATED BY JUDGE

NEIL. >> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS? >> YOU'D RECEIVED THROW

DISTRICT FUNDS. >> I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR

APPROVAL. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> MOTION PASSED.

THEN WE GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> WIRED AND WE NEED TO DO THAT ONE EXECUTIVE SESSION? APPOINTING ADDITIONAL HEARING ING EXAMINER DID SOMEBODY

DECLINE. >> CORRECT.

THAT'S WHY WE ARE COMING TO THE COURT TO ASK THAT THAT BE

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COMPENSATED. THERE ARE TWO ISSUES, THERE WAS CONCERN THAT SOME TYPE OF REGULATION THAT AFFECTS JUDGES MIGHT KEEP THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO SIT IN THIS THIS IS NOT JUDICIAL THIS IS HEARING OFFICER, NOT REQUIRED TO BE A JUDGE OR EVEN A LAWYER. THEY WERE ASKING FOR GUIDANCE FROM THEIR GOVERNING BODIES ON THAT.

WE HAD ONE HEARING BUT WE WERE TOLD THAT THAT WOULD NOT

HAPPEN. >> WHAT'S THE SUGGESTED

COMPENSATION? >> EVERY APPLICATION COMES WITH $1000 APPLICATION FEE. SO SHE AND THE SHERIFF HAVE SAID THAT FOR NOW SINCE THERE IS NO FEE IN THEIR TO BE ASSESSED ON THE APPLICANT WILL BRING THAT BACK IS ONE OF SEVERAL CHANGES TO THE REGULATIONS THAT THAT FEE COULD BE ABSORBED BY THE SHERIFFS BY THE POT OF MONEY FROM THE APPLICANT'S. I'VE SUGGESTED AN AMOUNT OF $500 PER HEARING FOR THAT HEARING OFFICER.

BUT WE STILL DON'T KNOW THE QUESTION THE ANSWER FROM THE

GOVERNING BODY. >> THE HEARING IS ABOUT WHETHER SOMEONE GETS DENIED AND APPEALING THE HEARING?

>> IS THERE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHARGE THE APPELLATE AS OFTEN TIMES WHEN YOU APPEAL THINGS YOU HAVE TO PUT APPEAL BONDS

UP. >> IT'S JUST NOT IN THE REGULATIONS NOW. WE ARE MAKING A LIST OF THAT AND OTHER THINGS TO BRING TO THE COURT.

>> DO WE HAVE PENDING NEED FOR ADDITIONAL HEARING OFFICER NOW OR CAN WE WAIT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY APPEALS WE HAVE THERE ARE

MORE NOW. >> WE ARE NEAR THE DEADLINE?

>> WE ARE PAST BUT BY AGREEMENT WE ARE OKAY ON THE FIRST ONE.

>> THAT MIGHT BE PART OF THE REASON.

>> WHAT KIND OF DENIALS ARE HAPPENING.

>> WHEN THEY HAVE AN ORDER WHO HAS HISTORY THAT'S A SOURCE OF

DENIAL. >> THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT ÃÃTHIS IS WHAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT THEIRS NOT TIMELY

INSPECTIONS DONE. >> THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO APPEAL WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING LIKE WHAT BRENT IS SAYING YOU HAVE

THEM PUT UP SOME KIND OF FEE. >> I'M ABSOLUTELY 100% IN FAVOR THAT IT'S JUST NOT IN THE REGULATIONS RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S WHY WERE TO BRING BACK THE REGULATIONS WITHOUT ADDITION AND OTHERS WE HAVE FOUND THE PROCESS THAT WE NEED

TO TWEAK. >> WE COULD LITERALLY MAKE THAT AMENDMENT RIGHT NOW AND YOU PUT THE LANGUAGE IN SO WE DON'T GET

DELAY. >> I DON'T THINK IT WOULD AFFECT ANYBODY WHO APPLIES AFTER TODAY.

>> WE HAVE TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING WE COULD ÃÃI GET

IT. >> WE PROPOSED 250 TO BE ASSESSED BOTH TO THE COUNTY AND THE APPLICANT WHO IS APPEALING SO BOTH PARTIES ARE PAYING A PORTION OF THAT FEE.

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>> I WOULD ADD THAT TO MY MOTION.

>> IS THAT WITH THE THOUSAND DOLLARS APPLICATION FEE?

>> YES IF THE TIME OF THE APPEAL OF THE APPEAL HAPPENS.

>> IF IT'S DENIED? THEY LOSE THEIR THOUSAND DOLLARS AND IF THEY WANT TO APPEAL TO HAVE THE FILE THE

EXTRA $250 FEE. >> WHY ARE THEY ACCEPTING THE

APPLICATIONS? >> YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THEM.

>> NO. >> THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POINT OF APPLICATION AT THE BEGINNING WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO FIND ALONG THE WAY, THERE ARE INSPECTIONS, SITE VISITS.

>> THIS STUFF IS COMING IN AFTERWARDS IS NOT LIKE A PERSON APPLIES AND SAYS HE IS A CRIMINAL RECORD IF THEY DON'T DO IT RIGHT THEY FIND OUT LATER THAT'S NOT OUR FAULT.

THEY ARE DETERMINING THESE THINGS AS THEY GO ALONG IN THE

INVESTIGATION. >> IF IT'S NOT FULLY COMPLETED YOU CANNOT ACCEPT THE APPLICATION.

>> DO I HAVE A MOTION? A SECOND.

>> ON APPEAL $250 FROM THE APPLICANT AND $250FROM THE COUNTY . FROM THE $1000?

>> NO, THAT'S ADDITIONAL COST. >> FROM THE COUNTY?

>> WE HAVE TO PAY FOR PRIVATE. >> WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM?

>> THAT WOULD BE FROM THE APPLICATION FEE ALREADY æ

>> FROM THE APPLICATION FEE. >> WE ARE NOT SAYING THAT YET

THAT'S PROBABLY. >> THE COUNTY WOULD PROBABLY

DRAW THAT FROM THOSE FEES. >> I WANT TO GET THE APPELLATE THING IN PLACE NOW WE ARE GOING TO GET STUCK WITH ALL OF IT NOW THAT THOUSAND DOLLARS I WASN'T COUNTING ON $500 OF THAT COMING FROM APPEALS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT MAKING ANY MONEY ON THIS

ANYWAY. >> IS THERE A SECOND? . YOU HAVE THE MOTION?

>> I CAN DO IT AGAIN IF YOU WANT.

THE MOTION WOULD BE EFFECTIVE TODAY THE APPELLATE PROCESS WOULD BE $250 WOULD BE PAID FOR UP FRONT BY THE PERSON APPEALING AND THE COUNTY WOULD THEN OUT OF FUNDS TO DETERMINE WHERE TO COME FROM LATER WOULD COVER THE OTHER $250 AND COSTS.

THAT'S EFFECTIVE TODAY. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.> DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A SEPARATE ÃÃJUST SO IT'S CLEAR THAT WILL ONLY AFFECT ONE'S APPEALS FILED AFTER TODAY.

>> IF THERE'S A WAY TO GO BACK AND DO IT I WOULD.

>> MOTION PASSES. OKAY.

>> THE QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO ON THESE APPEALS. YOU ARE SUGGESTING THE $500 FEE

HOW MANY DO WE HAVE CURRENTLY. >> HOW MANY APPEALS PENDING? YOU'RE THINKING THAT WILL COME FROM I GUESS IT'S GOOD HAVE TO COME FROM THE APPLICATION FEES. THAT'S KIND OF A BUMMER.

>> $500 APIECE ALL THE JUDGES THAT WE ALREADY PREVIOUSLY AGREED AND APPOINTED ARE THEY WILLING TO TAKE IT FOR THAT?

>> FOR THAT FEE THAT WE HAVE Ã ÃTHAT'S A TWOFOLD QUESTION.

FIRST THEY NEED TO BE SURE THEY CAN EVEN DO IT AS JUDGES AND

THEN SECOND IF THEY CAN. >> IF THEY CAN'T WE NEED TO COME UP WITH ALTERNATIVES TODAY.> YES.

>> DO YOU HAVE SUGGESTIONS? I WOULD PREFER IT TO BE THE

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JUDGES BUT IF THEY CAN'T I UNDERSTAND.

>> IT CAN BE ANYONE. >> IF YOU CAN GO INTO EXECUTIVE FOR THIS PART OF DISCUSSION, I WOULD ASK TO.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT COULD BE THAT SECRETIVE COURTS WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THE LEGAL QUESTION ABOUT THE JUDGES WE DO KNOW IT CAN BE ANYONE. WE DON'T KNOW æ

>> WAS THE LEGAL REASON OF GOING BACK THERE?

>> THERE IS NOT A LEGAL REASON TO GO BACK THERE,, THE MAGISTRATE'S ANSWER TO THE BOARD OF JUDGES SO THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION I BELIEVE FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE BOARD OF JUDGES ABOUT WHETHER THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE BOARD OF JUDGES TO HAVE THOSE TWO PEOPLE APPOINTED BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO DIRECT æ

>> I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THEY ARE ANYMORE.

>> THERE IS GEORGE SHOWER AND I BELIEVE JUDGE MADRIGAL, ARE THE

ONLY TWO? >>.

>> THAT'S FINE WITH ME. THEY WOULD BE GREAT.

>> IF THE COURT WOULD LIKE I CAN MAKE THAT INQUIRY WITH THE BOARD OF JUDGES DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO AS FACTORY, IT WOULD BE IDEAL FOR THE COUNTY BUT THEY MAY HAVE THE SAME

ISSUE. >> OKAY.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ONE CIVILIAN NON-JUDGE.

>> DO HAVE A SUGGESTION? >> I DON'T HAVE A SUGGESTION.

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPOINT JOHN MARTINEZ TO BE THE

HEARING OFFICER. >> I JUST WANT TO ASK ONE

QUESTION. >> ANYONE WANT TO PUT ANOTHER ONE" WHAT ABOUT THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE?

>> ANYONE IF THEY ARE WILLING TO TAKE IT.

>> THEY ARE ALREADY EMPLOYED BY US.

>> THEY ARE BUT THIS IS NOT A PART OF THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION.

THISWOULD BE COMPLETELY SEPARATE .

AND DO YOU HAVE A PERSON IN MIND.

>> I DON'T EVEN KNOW ANY OF THEM.

I'M JUST SAYING MAYBE THEY WOULD HAVE SOMEBODY.

>> IF THE JUDGES CAN DO IT GREAT, IF THE MAGISTRATE CAN DIRECTLY ANYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH JOHN MARTINEZ AS A CIVILIAN? CAN WE MAKE THAT AS A MOTION?

>> MOTION PASSES. OKAY.

OKAY WHERE WE GO FROM HERE? >> THAT'S IT.

>> I THINK YOU COVERED EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THERE.

IS ANYBODY HAVE ANY (SPEAKER DRIFTED OFF)

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> EVERYONE IN FAVOR OF THE

MOTION TO ADJOURN SAY AYE. >> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? >> TIME.

>> ADJOURNED.

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