F. Present the following Certificate(s) of Recognition:

[1. Discuss and consider approval of resolution in support of an application for the Indigent Defense Improvement Grant Program available through the Texas Indigent Defense Commission.]

I WASN'T SPEAKING IN THE MICROPHONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[7. Discuss and consider Dune Protection Permit for Admirals Rows project and all related matters.]

>> MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE 3 A 7. >> I WILL SECOND THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. TABLE 3A 7 UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.

[H. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]

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ALL RIGHT ARE WE READY TO MOVE FORWARD? OKAY. MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT . I HAVE TIM UP FIRST. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE YOUR COMMENT PLEASE. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

JUST BE CLEAR, SO YOU UNDERSTAND, WE CANNOT COMMENT BACK. THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT .

WE CAN ONLY LISTEN. SO WE'RE NOT BEING RUDE, WE CAN'T ANSWER.

>> GOOD MORNING. AFTER ALL THESE UPLIFTING EVENTS WE'VE HAD LEGISLATION -- IT WOULD PREEMPT YOU FROM ACTING IN SIX AREAS ON THE STATUTORY CODE.

THE SWITCHES IT AROUND SO YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING. TOTALLY REVERSES THE . WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU VIOLATE THE ORDINANCE. OTHER SIDE PREVAILS.

LOT OF MONEY. RECIPE FOR INTIMIDATION OF YOU AND OTHERS IN THE CITY. IT WILL MAKE PEOPLE MORE RELUCTANT TO RUN FOR THESE POSITIONS AND PUT YOUR PERSONAL FINANCE IN JEOPARDY. STOP THE STATE OF TEXAS FROM RADICALLY MAKING THIS INTRUSION. INAUDABLE ] STATE OF TEXAS IS FREE. ONE THING I NEED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, THERE ARE TWO BILLS. ONE BANDS COUNTYWIDE VOTING. I HAD A PLEASANT CONVERSATION INAUDABLE ]. I URGE YOU TO MAKE YOUR OPPOSITION KNOWN THROUGH ALL OF THE LEGISLATIVE BODIES. ESPECIALLY MR. HUNTER, ONLY ONE OF THE LOCAL LEGISLATORS , HE HAS MORE OPPORTUNITY TO INFLUENCE THINGS. IF BY LUCK, I WAS CHECKING VERY LATE LAST NIGHT, I FOUND PUBLIC COMMENTS ABOUT THIS BILL. MAKE 10 COPIES. I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THIS.

>> THANK YOU. LISA HERNANDEZ. COMMENT TIME. I AM A RESIDENT OF COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ'S DISTRICT . BEFORE I GET STARTED FOR WHAT I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR ITEM K. ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. I WISH IT WAS 18 MILLION. I DON'T WANT ANOTHER 4-YEAR-OLD TO HEAR SHE'S NOT GOING TO LIVE TO AGE 65. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I KNOW COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, YOU

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HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THIS. MY PURPOSE FOR BEING HERE. APPARENTLY THERE WAS A VOTE TAKEN ABOUT PAYING FOR OUTSIDE ATTORNEY EXPENSES FOR DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED ATTORNEY, MARK GONZALEZ, IT WAS TABLED FOR VARIOUS REASONS. YOU CLAIM HE IS NOT A COUNTY EMPLOYEE . HE IS A DISTRICT EMPLOYEE AND HIS PAY IS PARTIALLY PAID BY THE STATE.

DISTRICT JUDGES AND DISTRICT CLERK. YET, YOU WOULD EASILY AGREE TO PAY THEIR LEGAL EXPENSES. YOU CLAIM IT IS QUASI- CRIMINAL UNDER THIS SECTION EVERYTHING UNDER THIS IS CAUSE I CRIMINAL , BUT YOU HAVE PAID FOR THESE BEFORE. NOT ONLY FOR MR. GONZALEZ BUT JAILERS , INMATES IN JAIL. THERE MIGHT BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. PEOPLE WORKING IN HIS OFFICE, THAT IS AN INVALID COMPLAINT. WHEN I MOVE DOWN HERE FROM AUSTIN, WE DID NOT MOVE DOWN HERE WAITING FOR MY HUSBAND'S COUSIN TO GET OFF THE BOARD , THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR WHICH I WORK AT THE SCHOOL WHERE I WORK. ONCE HE RETIRED, I FELT ETHICALLY COMFORTABLE ENOUGH APPLYING. IT TURNS OUT THAT IN-LAWS DON'T COUNT IN TEXAS ETHICS ORLOP. THAT'S AN INVALID CLAIM. YOU ARE PAYING FOR EXPENSES FOR CRIMINALLY INDICTED MEDICAL EXAMINER. WHY NOT TWICE SELECTED, DEMOCRATICALLY ELECT IN FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS , THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING. I'M HERE TODAY TO FIND OUT WHY THIS COURT FEELS THERE'S NO JUSTIFICATION PAYING LEGAL FEES FROM A LAWSUIT BROUGHT BY A DISGRUNTLED CITIZEN. MARK GONZALEZ WAS ELECTED TWICE. THE COUNTY IS PAYING FOR A MEDICAL EXAMINER. THE COMMISSIONERS SAID HE CANNOT VOTE BECAUSE HE HAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST SINCE HIS FATHER-IN-LAW WORKS IN THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. BUT IN-LAWS ARE NOT CONSIDERED IMMEDIATE FAMILY SO NO CONFLICT. THE IN ACTION OF PAYING THE LEGAL FEES DESERVES BETTER REPRESENTATION.

>> I RISE TO CONFIRM WHAT PREVIOUS SPEAKERS HAVE SAID FOR THE COUNTY PAYING FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY THESE. I DON'T NEED TO REPEAT ALL THEIR REASONS. I STAND BY THOSE,

THANK YOU. >> ADRIANA. >> GOOD MORNING. VICE PRESIDENT INAUDABLE ]. WE WILL HAVE DIFFERENT EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

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DONATION WE WILL APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE SCOTT . WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO SUPPORT US . THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> BOB. NO , OKAY. >> I HAVEN'T BEEN CALLED THAT IN A LONG TIME. THAT WAS NOT MY FAVORITE. I'M THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY CHAIR . LET ME REPEAT WHAT HAS BEEN STATED . I STAND WITH THE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. I WANT TO ADD THAT IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE TO BE HERE TODAY. THIS IS NOT ABOUT MARK GONZALEZ THE PERSON. THIS IS ABOUT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY. THIS LAW IS BEEN MISINTERPRETED AND SEEN THE WRONG WAY. IF YOU DO NOT GIVE HIM THIS COVERAGE, WHICH YOU HAVE DONE BEFORE, THEN YOU SUBJECT YOURSELF TO THIS SAME ACTION, AS WELL. WE DEAL WITH ISSUES THROUGH VOTING. THAT'S THE WAY THESE ISSUES ARE RESOLVED. IF WE DON'T LIKE THE PERFORMANCE OF ANYBODY , AGAIN, THAT HAPPENS THROUGH ELECTIONS. THAT'S HOW DEMOCRACY WORKS. I DON'T AGREE WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE HERE THAT GOT ELECTED ON SOME ISSUES. BUT, I REALIZE, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ELECTIONS.

I'M URGING YOU TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF GIVING MARK GONZALEZ HIS REPRESENTATION. YOU'VE DONE IT BEFORE. IN SOME POINT IN TIME, YOU MAY NEED THIS BECAUSE THIS LAW MAY BE APPLIED TO YOU . IT'S A SMART THING TO DO. YOU KNOW IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. I WANT TO THANK

YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> JOSEPH RAMIREZ . >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

I HOPE EVERYBODY ENJOYED A GREAT EASTER. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE SAME TOPIC. MOST OF YOU GUYS KNOW ME FROM POLITICS. THIS IS A PARTISAN ROW USUALLY BUT I'M HERE TODAY, NOT AS CHAIRMAN OF DEMOCRATS, BUT AS A FRIEND AND HOPING TO SHED A DIFFERENT LIGHT ON THIS ISSUE. I WANT TO READ A VERSE TODAY. INJUSTICE IN COURT, YOU SHOULD NOT BE IMPARTIAL BUT RIGHTEOUSNESS YOU JUDGE YOUR NEIGHBOR . WE ARE ASKING FOR THAT . WE ARE ASKING FOR FAIRNESS AND TAKE THE PARTISAN POLITICS OUT OF THIS SITUATION.

WE ARE ALREADY FLOODED WITH PARTISAN POLITICS TO BEGIN WITH. WHEN IT COMES TO THE BOARD, THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALL STAND ON. THAT'S PART OF THE FOUNDATION OF OUR DEMOCRACY AS CITIZENS AND POLITICIANS. AS CITIZENS, THAT'S PART OF THE FOUNDATION. WE ARE ASKING WHETHER YOU THINK HE'S GUILTY OR NOT GUILTY, IT'S NOT THAT KIND OF CASE. WE HAVE ALL HEARD INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. LET'S BE FAIR AND LET THIS MAN HAVE HIS DAY IN COURT . BUT LET'S BE FAIR AND TO DO FOR HIM. I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY AND JUDGE SCOTT, I WOULD FIGHT FOR YOU , AS WELL, IF YOU WERE WRONGLY ACCUSED OF SOMETHING .

HAVING THAT FAIRNESS . I WILL CLOSE WITH ANOTHER BIBLE VERSE THAT SAYS DUDE NO GRIEF.

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NEITHER SLAVE NOR FREE YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST. I WILL GIVE YOU THE JOSEPH RAMIREZ VERSION.

THERE IS NO REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT OR NO INDEPENDENT. WE ARE ALL CITIZENS OF NUECES

COUNTY , WE ARE ASKING YOU TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> BECKY.

>> I HAVE TO SAY FIRST, I'M THE OLDEST PERSON IN THIS ROOM. I WAS SO HAPPY TO SEE --.

THE GIRLS TEAM. WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, THERE IS NO COMPETITIVE SPORTS FOR GIRLS.

I WAS EXCITED TO SEE THAT SOMETHING HAS CHANGED AND HOPEFULLY IT STAYS CHANGED. IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I'M HERE TO HIRE OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY, MARK GONZALEZ. I WAS GONE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS SO I DIDN'T HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH MR. GONZALEZ. BUT I GOT TO KNOW HIM. A MORE HARD-WORKING CANDIDATE, I'VE NEVER SEEN. I THINK YOU HAVE A MORAL AND LEGAL OBLIGATION TO TAKE CARE OF HIM. AS WE SAID BEFORE ME. IT HAS BEEN SAID WITH SOME OF YOU, YOU CAN ANSWER MY QUESTION BUT DID WE PROVIDE COUNSEL FOR A JUDGE IN HER RECENT DEBACLE. YOU CAN TELL ME, I DON'T KNOW. NUECES COUNTY AND DISTRICT ATTORNEY, MARK GONZALEZ. THIS IS A NATIONAL PROBLEM I HAVE HEARD OVER AND OVER THIS IS NOT A LOCAL THING. IT'S ABOUT PROGRESSIVE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. MARK GONZALEZ HAS STEPPED UP. THEY WENT AFTER HIM. WHEN I WENT TO THE VERY FIRST COURT DATE. YAY. HE WAS ASKED IF HE HANDLED THE CASE AND THE JUDGE SAID NO.

THE PETITIONERS WERE SHORTSIGHTED. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WILL TAKE ONE OF YOUR OWN ELECTED OFFICIALS AND HANG HIM OUT TO DRY WHEN YOU HAVE PROVIDED FOR OTHERS. PROVIDE HIM OUTSIDE COUNSEL SO HE HAS A GOOD LEGAL DEFENSE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR

TIME. >> RAY . >> GOOD MORNING. I'M HERE FOR THE SAME THING. SPEAKING ON THE HALF BEHALF OF MARK GONZALEZ. I HAVE PERSONAL OPINIONS ON HIM. THAT I'M HERE BECAUSE THIS ATTACK IS A ATTACK ON DEMOCRACY . YOU GUYS, BY ALLOWING THIS TO MOVE FORWARD , DISENFRANCHISE MINORITY VOTERS. THIS IS NOT RIGHT. I BELIEVE IF THE CITIZENS OF NUECES COUNTY ARE EXPECTED TO PAY FOR THE FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS , THEY SHOULD ALSO PAY FOR MARK GONZALEZ COUNSEL . WE EXPECT MORE COMPETENCY FROM OUR LEADERS. THIS CHARADE WE HAVE GOING ON , SHOULD NOT CREATE A FACT OR AND INFLUENCE THE DECISION. IS BASED ON LAW. THE LAW SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT THE STATE WILL PAY FOR LAWSUITS

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FILED AGAINST PUBLIC SERVANTS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE HERE. THAT IS THE LAW. ALL I

ASK FOR YOU TO DO IS FOLLOW THE LAW. THANK YOU. >> CONNIE.

>> I AM WITHDRAWING MY REQUEST TO SPEAK. >> MARY SHE LEFT ? OKAY.

ALEX.

COMMISSIONERS. I STAND IN SOLIDARITY FOR MARK GONZALEZ TO HAVE REPRESENTATION. AND, I ALSO STAND FOR HIM TO HAVE HIS BILLS PAID. IF THERE IS NOT AT PRECEDENT TO NOT DO THIS, I HAVE NOT HEARD OF ANYONE ELSE BEING REJECT DID FOR THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF ASSISTANCE. IF WE ARE PLANNING ON SETTING A PRECEDENT , TO NOT ALLOW HIM TO HAVE WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES , THEN WE ARE SETTING UP OURSELVES . BECAUSE, AS THE GENTLEMAN JUST SPOKE . IF IT COULD HAPPEN NOW, WHO'S TO SAY WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN TO YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE WHO IS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE STATE OF THIS CITY. I STAND TO ASK YOU TO PROVIDE. ATTORNEY FEES. AND TAKE CARE OF A DULY ELECTED OFFICIAL . WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A SCAM . WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE WHO GOT IN BY SHOTTY METHODS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN ELECTION THAT I VOTED IN. I VOTED FOR SOME OF YOU. I'M ASKING YOU DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE. IF THERE IS NOT A WRITTEN POLICY THAT SAYS THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN , IT'S ON THE WHIM OF SOMEONE , JUST KNOW, WHEN YOU POINT ONE FINGER AT SOMEBODY ELSE, THERE IS THREE COMING BACK AT YOU. I'M ASKING YOU DO THE RIGHT THING . SUPPORT MARK AND PAY HIS BILL. BY THE WAY I FORGOT TO TELL YOU MY NAME. I WAS RAISED IN NUECES COUNTY . THIS IS MY HOME AND I HAVE VOTED IN EVERY ELECTION SINCE I WAS 18 YEARS OLD. IF YOU ARE THE OLDEST ONE, I'M PROBABLY RIGHT BEHIND

YOU . >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HERNANDES HAS WITHDRAWN AND

WILL SPEAK WHEN IT COMES UP ON THE AGENDA. >>

>> RESPONSES AND PUBLIC COMMENT ARE LIMITED. >> JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, WE PAID ATTORNEYS FEES IN THE PAST. WHY SHOULD IT NOT CONTINUE.

>> I'M NOT GOING TO COMMENT . THERE IS AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA. AS A COMMISSIONER FOR THIS

PURPOSE, COMMENTS ARE DURING THE DISCUSSION. >> I WAS CALLED OUT IN PUBLIC

AND I WANT A CHANCE TO DEFEND MYSELF TO SPEAK. >> YOU'VE BEEN REMINDED . YOU

ARE IN VIOLATION. >> THANK YOU. I'M COMMISSIONER HERNANDES . ONE OF THE THINGS I DID WHEN I FIRST GOT SWORN IN WAS TO TAKE THE OATH OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THIS UNITED STATES. SO IF WE DONE THINGS IN THE PAST, IT'S BEEN OKAY . MY UNDERSTANDING , WE'VE PAID

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ATTORNEYS FEES FOR MR. GONZALEZ IN THE PAST. WHAT HAS CHANGED THAT WE SHOULDN'T DO IT NOW? I DON'T PUBLICIZE HOW I WILL VOTE ON ANYTHING. LET MY CONSCIENCE BE MY GUIDE.

TALK ABOUT JESUS AND GOD . JESUS LOVES JUSTICE. I WANT JUSTICE, TOO. I WANT TO KEEP GOING THE RIGHT WAY. THE REASON I'M HERE, I DON'T CLAIM TO BE A DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN. I'M JUST AN INDIVIDUAL. I DON'T THINK ANYTHING HAS CHANGED. THANK YOU.

>> THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. DID YOU SIGN UP TO SPEAK?

>> I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK ON THIS . OUR VISION IS TO ACHIEVE EQUALITY, POLITICAL RIGHTS AND HELP THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN NEED. MORE RECENTLY OUR NATIONAL OFFICE HAVE TAKEN A HARD LOOK. I HAVE A HUGE THING FOR DECORUM IN PUBLIC SETTINGS. I HAVE TO SAY THIS.

SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS, INCLUDING MYSELF. IT MATTERS FOR THE MAJORITY, THESE ARE MATTERS OF THE HEART. WHENEVER WE ARE SPEAKING, I NOTICE YOU TAKING NOTES. YOU ARE ACTUALLY LISTENING . I KNOW YOU CAN'T RESPOND AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I SAW A LOT OF DISTRACTION GOING ON. I'M ASKING, WHENEVER WE ARE HERE IN PUBLIC COMMENT, THOSE DISTRACTIONS THAT OCCUR BEHIND YOU ARE LIMITED. WE HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SAY WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY . SOMETIMES YOU ARE NOT LISTENING AND MOVE ABOUT AND IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION. BACK TO WHAT INITIALLY I WANTED TO SAY. I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK. MY OFFICIAL CAPACITY, I TRY AND HOLD TRUE TO NOT LEANING LEFT OR RIGHT. I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE MISSION. ONE OF THE CORE THINGS WHICH YOU RESOLVED. ALL THE DRAMA GOING INTO INDIVIDUALS WITH A STRONG VOICE IN SERVING YOUR COMMUNITY. I'M NOT GOING TO, AND I NEVER HAVE COME TO A COURT OR PUBLIC SETTING TO DIRECT ANYONE WHAT THEY SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT DO. WE ELECTED YOU ALL TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND CARRY OUT YOUR OBLIGATIONS THROUGH YOUR OATH. IN RELATION TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY. I HAVEN'T READ THE LAW. I KNOW YOU HAVE READ IT . I KNOW MANY OF YOU PERSONALLY AND I KNOW YOU ALL STUDY. YOU ARE NOT JUST UP HERE JUST TO BE UP HERE. WHATEVER IT DOES ENTAIL FOR YOU TO DO, I WOULD HOPE AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT. IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO SUPPORT OR PAY FOR HIS LEGAL FEES OR WHATEVER, DATE IT ON RECORD AND SAY I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT . STAND ON AND STAY ON IT AND MOVE ON. RIGHT NOW, IN THIS MOMENT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT

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HAS OCCURRED IN THE PAST. THIS MOMENT RIGHT NOW, SOME OF HIS CONSTITUENTS VOTED FOR HIM AND MAYBE SOME DID NOT VOTE FOR HIM, ASKING WHATEVER YOU HAVE DONE AS A COUNTY AND COMMUNITY LEADERS, MAYBE NOW OR IN THE PAST, CONTINUE THAT AND BE SURE IT'S TAKEN CARE OF FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY. IN SAYING THAT, I WANT TO FLIP ON THE OTHER SIDE AND SAY THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ AND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE MOST RECENTLY.

THIS ARBOR PLAN AND FUNDING, I WANT TO COMMEND YOU WITH WORKING FOR THE NONPROFITS TO ENSURE . TABLING THINGS AND GOING THROUGH AND THE STAFF IS WORKING WELL AND COMMUNICATING BACK AND FORTH. THEY ARE DOING THEIR BEST TO ENSURE WE ARE GETTING THIS INFORMATION AND I

WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE THAT. >> THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. WE HAVE ONE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK WHEN THE ITEM COMES UP. MOVING

[1. Nueces County Beach Management Advisory Committee]

ONTO I. BOARD APPOINTMENTS. NUECES COUNTY BEACH MANAGEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. YOUR

DISTRICT . >> YES MA'AM. I THINK WE ONLY HAVE AFTER SEVERAL POSTINGS, ONE APPLICATION. I'M TRYING TO FIND IT. I'M SORRY .

THAT. I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE APPLICANT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. >> MOTION PASSES. TABLED THE

[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]

NEXT ONE. MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ANY ITEMS THAT YOU WISH TO POOL FOR COMMENT

>> M. M AND N . AND D. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS ? I WILL ACCEPT THE MOTION TO PASS THE CONSENT AGENDA EXCLUDING D, M , N. MOTION TO EXCLUDE THOSE. I SECOND THAT MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON TO ITEM SPECIAL MOTIONS LIST.

[D. Authorize payment of bills - Special Motions List, Special Motions List - American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) and Special Motion List - Banc of America Public Capital Corp. dated April 12, 2023.]

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. >> CONSENT AGENDA

>> ACCEPT THE MOTION. 26, 27 -- >> SO MOVED. I WILL ACCEPT

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THOSE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO PASS ALL OF THE REST EXCLUDING ITEM 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED ? ARE WE

ADDRESSING THOSE? >> LET ME ADDRESS THAT.

>> I WILL GO TO M. PULL THOSE DOWN.

[M. Authorize contract with Robstown Area Development Commission (RADC) for FY 2022-2023.]

WITH DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

>> EXCEPT A MOTION WE INDICATE THAT . NO QUESTION HERE.

HAVE A BACKUP. >> THIS IS BASICALLY THE CONTRACT . PAYMENT WILL BE ON

THE NEXT. >> MAKE A MOTION TO PASS IT. >> I WILL SECOND THAT .

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM M . ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED .

[N. Authorize contract with United Corpus Christi Chamber of Commerce, Texas Windstorm Insurance Association (TWIA) for FY 2022-2023.]

- 2023. COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION. WE ARE BEING TRANSPARENT WITH THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WE ARE PLANNING TO GET TO THOSE. THAT'S INCLUDED. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

PUT THE AMOUNT ON THEM. >> I WILL SECOND THAT ONE. >> REFLECTING THE MINUTES.

>> THAT WAY I WILL HAVE IT. >> THAT WAS THE OTHER ONE. TO 25 ON THIS ONE.

>> IT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE RECOMMENDATION. >> WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND ON ITEM 10 AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. GOING BACK TO ITEM B.

>> I THINK I BROUGHT THIS UP AT THE LAST MEETING OR THE MEETING BEFORE THAT. PAYOUT CONTRACTS . CONTRACT WAS TERMINATED ON FEBRUARY 8TH , 2023. STILL GETTING INVOICES FOR DECEMBER AND NOVEMBER . THOSE ARE BACKLOGGED . MY QUESTION WAS , I DON'T KNOW IF

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YOU WERE HERE OR NOT, DOWN WITH THAT RIGHT NOW. WHEN WE COME BACK ANOTHER 39,000.

>> WE CAN. JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION . WHY THESE INVOICES ARE HERE AT THIS TIME. THESE INVOICES WERE PREVIOUS INVOICES AND THEY WERE REVISED BECAUSE THERE WAS ISSUES WITH THE MAN HOURS. WHEN WE GET THE REVISED INVOICES, AS AN EXAMPLE FROM 16 TO 17, CAN'T PAY 17 IN 1920 BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO DO 16 TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE REFLECTED.

>> I UNDERSTAND THIS. MONTHS TO WRITE IT DOWN.

TO MAKE SURE WE DO HAVE THE FINAL INVOICE OF WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING.

>> I LOOK AT THE INVOICES,

HOURS WERE APPROVED. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING ? >> TO ANSWER THE QUESTION REQUEST INFORMATION TO MAKE SURE EVERY HOUR IS ACCOUNTED FOR. AT THE INVOICE, I WAS TOLD AT THIS TIME, THAT WAS THE QUESTION. THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN FOLLOWED AND WE HAVE BEEN

WARNED AT THAT TIME WITH THE INITIAL CONTACT. >> JANUARY 1ST WE COULD HAVE.

I THINK ATTORNEYS. AND ADVICE AT THAT TIME . GOT ADVICE FROM OTHERS THAT WE COULDN'T REPLACE THE

INFORMATION BECAUSE IT WAS PART OF THE CONTRACT. >> FIVE HOURS. NONE OF THE

HOURS HAVE A DATE . >> THIS SPECIFIC THING. >> WE WILL GET TOGETHER WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

>> ONE PAYMENT REQUEST >> WE WILL GET WITH THEM AND FINALIZE IT. THANK YOU.

>> I THINK THINK I WANT TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT MEETING. >> 26 TO 32 .

. THE DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW. EVERYBODY. INVOICES ARE FLOATING AROUND. IF IT'S DONE AND COMPLETE, WE NEED TO PAY.

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] TO TRY TO CLOSE OUT. ALSO CLOSE THEM OUT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. EXCLUDE NOT TODAY. 26, 27, 29, 30, 31. 32. EVERYTHING ELSE. ANYTHING BEFORE AND AFTER THAT. 26 THROUGH 32. NOT 26 THROUGH 32. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

WE WILL BRING THAT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GO OUTSIDE THE 30 DAYS. THOSE WILL BE FOR THE NEXT MEETING . OUT IN ONE LUMP SUM. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE HOURS

ARE VERIFIED AND WHAT DAY THE HOURS WERE DONE. >> PULLED ITEM 26 AS WELL.

>> 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32. ARE WE CLEAR ? >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THE INVOICES WILL BE NEXT MEETING. THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.

>> OUR FIRST LOOK. >> >> WHOEVER RECEIVED THE

INVOICE. THE DISCREPANCY, YOU HAVE 20 DAYS TO DO THAT . >> YOU HAVE TO NOTIFY THE COMPANY . THAT'S CORRECT. ON THAT . ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE . THE MOTION PASSES. 'S GO WE WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THE COURT TO LOOK AT THAT LATER. WE HAVE BEEN MORE THAN THE 30 DAYS. WE

WOULD LIKE TO SEND IT BACK TO THE END OF THE COURT. >> IF WE SUBMIT SOMETHING TO COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR APPROVAL, THERE SHOULD BE A COVER SHEET RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. SHOULD GET AN ATTACHED DOCUMENT IF THERE IS A DOCUMENT, THERE SHOULD BE A COVER SHEET . THERE IS ONE? SO, IF THERE IS A COVER SHEET ON THEM .

>> I WANT A CLARIFICATION OF THE HOURS .

>> DISCREPANCIES HERE IN THE HIGHLIGHTS. >> WHAT DATE DID YOU DO IT.

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INAUDABLE ] GET WITH THEM AND GET MORE SPECIFICS. >> YOU ARE RIGHT . OTHER INVOICES THAT WE GOT THAT ARE SIX MONTHS OLD . WE REQUEST THEM ON A MONTHLY BASIS.

>> MORE THAN 30 DAYS OLD WANT TO KNOW .

THAT AGAIN ,

[1. Receive an update on the Harbor Bridge Project.]

REGULAR AGENDA. ITEM A 1. UPDATE ON THE BRIDGE PROJECT. ALLISON, THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY. I AM DEVELOPER FOR THE REPLACEMENT PROJECT. MY PROJECT MANAGER JOINED ME THIS MORNING BUT HE HAD TO GET BACK TO THE OFFICE. WE HAVE A FEW FOLLOWING ONLINE. THIS AGENDA WITH TALKING POINTS . CONSTRUCTION HIGHLIGHTS FOR THESE AREAS. SOUTH APPROACH. SOUTH INTERCHANGE AND ROADWORK. OUR LOCAL WORKFORCE AND IMPACT AND THE WOMEN'S CONSTRUCTION INITIATIVE. I WOULD HAPPY TO UPDATE WITH QUESTIONS OR WE CAN STOP AND YOU QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY. I LIKE TO BREAK THIS OUT INTO SECTIONS. WE HAVE THE ROADWORK AREA. THAT'S WERE 181 IS BEING REALIGNED. THE NORTH APPROACH IS LIKE THE RUNWAY FOR THE BRIDGE. THIS SOUTH APPROACH AREA FOR THE QUICK INTERCHANGE. THE NORTH APPROACH IS 85% COMPLETE.

>> THIS IS THE ABUTMENT WALL WHICH WE SEE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THE PHOTO. THAT IS WHERE 181 JOINS BY THAT BRIDGE. YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT HOW WE ARE ERECTING THE SPAN ON THE CONSTRUCTION. WE JUST FINISHED THE FIRST OF THE EIGHT REMAINING SPANS. THIS IS IN THE APPROACH. SOUTHSIDE OF THE PROJECT. THE NORTHERNMOST END OF THE PROJECT. LOTS TO POINT OUT IN THIS PHOTO. AGAIN ON THE BOTTOM LEFT WE HAVE 181 ABUTMENT WALL.

>> ADVANCE THE SLIDE PLEASE. ONGOING ROADWORK . AND UTILITIES. THIS STARTS BELOW

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SEA LEVEL AND GROUND UP. GRAYWATER AVENUE AND CONSTRUCTION INSTALLING IN THE WATER LINES. THIS WILL BE BY THE END OF APRIL OR EARLY MAY. WE WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR PARTNERS, STAKEHOLDERS ON THE NORTH EACH COMMUNITY . WE CAN COORDINATE DETOURS AROUND OF THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND. WE PROVIDE PEOPLE OPPORTUNITIES. WE HAVE BREAKWATER UNDER CONSTRUCTION. IN THIS PHOTO, WE HAVE THREE OF THE FOUR HIGH MAST ON THE PROJECT. LIGHTS.

WE ALSO INSTALLED THE NEW LIGHTING IN THE UNDERPASS. ON THE RIGHT YOU CAN SEE HOW THE ALIGNMENT WILL TAKE PLACE ON THE BRIDGE. WE HAVE ALSO COMPLETED OUR WASTEWATER TIE IN. WE ARE WORKING TO INSTALL ANOTHER 12 INCH WATER LINE. WE'VE INSTALLED DRAINAGE AND 24 INCH REINFORCEMENT CONCRETE PIPE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. MOVING OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROJECT. WE ARE JUST OVER 90% COMPLETE. WE HAVE THREE REMAINING SPANS. ALL THE SUBSTRUCTURE IS COMPLETE . ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE NORTH APPROACH STOPS WHERE THE GAP IS. THIS IS WHERE THE BRIDGE WILL BEGIN. ALSO, IN FEBRUARY, YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE SOUTH BOUND LANES. THE MAIN LANES, THE NORTHERNMOST MAIN LANES WITH THE ENTRY. EACH ONE OF THESE PHOTOS HAVE SO MUCH COMPLEXITY. THESE WERE TAKEN THE LAST WEEK OF MARCH. MONTHLY THEY ARE POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE AND SOCIAL MEDIA. I UPDATE THESE PRESENTATIONS THE WEEK BEFORE EACH EVENT. PRESENTATIONS ARE THE SAME.

BACK TO THIS AREA. YOU'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH HEADACHES OF GETTING TO THE COURTHOUSE. YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT WE HAVE CONCEDED OPENING LAST YEAR. OF THE THIRD ONE ON THE TOP RIGHT MIDDLE PHOTO. THAT IS COMPLETE. TO REMAINING SPANS. OF THE FOURTH CONNECTION WILL BE BROUGHT IN ONCE THE BRIDGE OPENS . THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PHOTO YOU CAN SEE HOW THE LEOPARD STREET CORRIDOR IS COMING TOGETHER. WE ARE OPENING THAT CONNECTIVITY ROUTE IN OCTOBER, THIS FALL. PLANNING IT SOONER BUT OCTOBER IS THE DAY. ALSO PROVIDING THE ROUTE TO ACCESS THE COURTHOUSE, CITY HALL. YOU WILL EXIT PORT AVENUE TO LEOPARD STREET AND THERE WILL BE NO TRAFFIC LIGHT . YOU WILL SEE IN THE NEXT PHOTO BUT I WANTED TO TOUCH ON THE FACILITIES IN THE AREA. COLBERT CONCRETE TYPE . THANKFULLY WE PROVIDE THIS OVER FOUR INCHES OF RAIN WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE THESE CLOSE. WE HAVE VERY SIGNIFICANT DRAINAGE THAT WILL BE COMPLETED ONCE THE FULL INTERCHANGES OPEN. YOU CAN SEE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PHOTO, THE TRIPLE LANE CAPACITY TO ALLOW FOR MORE DRAINAGE AND EXCAVATION GOING ON. THIS IS OPEN FOR A RETAINING POND . SOUTHWEST IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION BETWEEN LEOPARD STREET AND THIS HIGHWAY. LAST MONTH ALONG I-37. WE TOOK TRAFFIC ON A BRIDGE THAT WILL GO OVER 181. IT WAS VERY SIGNIFICANT IN THAT IT OPENED UP TREMENDOUS AMOUNT

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OF AREA FOR US TO CONTINUE WITH DRAINAGE ACTIVITY AND BUILD NEW MAIN WAYS AND OVER 181.

ALSO YOU CAN SEE HERE WE HAVE DEMOLISHED ALL THE REMAINING STRUCTURES FROM FOUR PREVIOUS CONNECTORS IN THE AREA. A LOT OF ACTIVITY CONCENTRATED IN THIS AREA. WITH THAT TRAFFIC SWITCH, WE OPENED UP ANOTHER EXIT HEADING SOUTHBOUND ON I-37. CONNECT TIVOLI FOR FOLKS FRUSTRATED COMING TO AND FROM NORTH EACH AREA . MORE IN THIS AREA, WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ON THE SOUTH INTERCHANGE. WE MADE THE SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC SWITCH A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. TWO WEEKS AGO ON THE LEFT OF THE PHOTO HERE, WE OPENED A TURNAROUND . WE ALSO OPENED A SOUTH BOUND ENTRANCE RAMP FOR I-37 . ALLOWING FOR ANYONE COMING FROM PORTLAND AREA TO NORTH RAMP. THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO QUITE SO FAR ON THE TURNAROUND. SOUTH BOUND TO 86.

A VERY SIGNIFICANT WORK RIGHT NOW. HEAVY IN OPENING LAKE STREET . OF THE CIRCLE WITH THE PHOTO ON THE BOTTOM LEFT. THAT WILL PROVIDE THAT AREA IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU ALL KNOW ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR RTA. I WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE OPERATION TEAM WITH THE RTA TO ACCOMMODATE BUS STOPS. WE HAVE ONE ON ROBERTS STREET . ALSO SIGNIFICANT COORDINATION. OPENING LEOPARD STREET WILL BE SIGNIFICANT. WE CAN GO ON TO THAT AREA THAT

USED TO BE ELIMINATED, AS WELL . >> I JUST TOUCHED ON METRO MINISTRIES. SIGNIFICANT CONSTRUCTION IN THE LEOPARD STREET AREA. CROSS TOWN TO 86 . AND ALONGSIDE THE CITY WORK UNDERWAY. CLOSE COORDINATION COMPLETED A SIGNIFICANT REDO .

WE EXCAVATED SERVICES AND REPLACED IT WITH CONCRETE BASE. WE COMPLETED A NEW SIDEWALK IN THE AREA. THAT WILL SOON BECOME OUR DETOUR FROM COKE STREET WHEN WE CONTINUE WITH THE DRAINAGE AND WORK ON LEOPARD STREET BRIDGE. NEW DRIVEWAY . I WANT TO TOUCH ON SIGNAGE. I HEAR THE FRUSTRATION IN THE COMMENTS ON THE RADIO . I VIEW THE COMMENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I UNDERSTAND IT'S CONFUSING. WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT SIGNAGE IN THE AREA. OVER 100 SIGNS . THE ORANGE CONSTRUCTION SIGNS . THE BLUE SIGNS. MORE ALONG THE INTERSTATE AREA COMING SOUTHBOUND ON TO 86 TO ACCESS CABLE STREET AREA AND NORTHEAST, AS WELL. WE'VE ALSO PAINTED PAVEMENT MARKERS WHICH IS NOTICEABLE AT NIGHT. AND LIGHTING IS VERY SIGNIFICANT. WE'VE INSTALLED UNDER BRIDGE LIGHTING ON 37. AND THE NUECES BAY BOULEVARD TO ACCOMMODATING GETTING TO AND FROM THAT BUS STOP , AS WELL. ALSO LAKE STREET . WHEN WE OPEN LAKE STREET, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING . NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WANT TO GO UP TO UPTOWN. SIGNIFICANT PROJECT THERE. THEY ARE 90% COMPLETE WITH CONSTRUCTION. WE HAVE COMPLETED ALL OF DELTA FRAME FABRICATION , WHICH IS THAT INTEGRAL COMPONENT TO THE BRIDGE. BOTTOM RIGHT PHOTO YOU CAN SEE TRANSPORT , 84 DELTA FRAME. TOP SLIGHT A MAIN

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SPAN APPROACH. A MAIN SPAN SEGMENT. THESE ARE 2505 SPECIALTY CONCRETE WITH A LIFESPAN OF 170 YEARS, AS IS ALL THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE BRIDGE. 2600 TOTAL SEGMENTS FOR THE PROJECT. WE HAVE TO HAVE A POLICE ESCORT FOR EACH UNIT TRANSPORTED . HAVE TO HAVE A TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN FOR EACH UNIT. SO FAR, WE HAVE TRANSPORTED ALMOST 1900 SEGMENTS TO THE APPROACHES AND PYLON AREA. WE'VE COMPLETED THE APPROACH SEGMENTS LAST YEAR. WE HAVE 150 REMAINING SPANNED NORTHBOUND AND SOUTH BOUND. SOME MAY REMEMBER 69 FEET WIDE FERN NORTHBOUND. SOUTHBOUND 59 FEET. AGAIN, WE ARE 90% COMPLETED HERE. THEY WILL BE FINISHED BY THE END OF THE SUMMER. ALL OF THE SEGMENT'S FOR THE TABLE TREATMENT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ALSO IN ROTH TOWN, SIGNIFICANT FOR THIS. OUR OWN EXPENSE OUTSIDE THE TECHNICAL PROVISIONS IN REQUIREMENT, WE DID SIGNIFICANT REPAIRS. LAST MONTH IN FEBRUARY. WE ADDED 250 TONS OF ASPHALT TO THE ALMOST 1 MILE STRETCH FROM THE YARD TO HIGHWAY 77. BACK IN 2020, SOME OF YOU SAW AS PARTNERING WITH THE CITY . THE BRIDGE OVER THE DRAINAGE DITCH HERE. DONATED 24 OF OUR CONCRETE CULVERTS AND HELPED WITH THIS BRIDGE. I HOPE YOU ALL , THANK YOU FOR THIS AREA IN PARTICULAR.

>> I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE ON THAT. YOU HAD A LOT OF CALLS FROM ME AND WE'VE GOTTEN CALLS. THE COUNTY IS WHERE MY OFFICE GETS THE PHONE CALLS. A LOT OF RESIDENTS GO BACK AND FORTH. WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP. I WANT TO THANK YOU PUBLICLY. WITHOUT YOUR HARD WORK, THIS IS VOLATILE. WE HAVE TWO PARTNERS OUT THERE.

NOT A COMPLETE ANSWER. NOT A COMPLETE ROAD AS YOU WOULD WANT IT. BUT MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE

WITH THE RESIDENCE AND THAT AREA. >> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE THAT

AND I WILL CONVEY THAT BACK TO OUR PROJECT TEAM, AS WELL. >> WANT TO GET INTO SOME OF THE THINGS. BEING IN THE OFFICE. I WAS UNFORTUNATE TO PARTICIPATE IN MANY OF THE ACTIVITIES WITH OUR TEAMMATES. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THE AREA. DESPITE THE FRUSTRATION FOR THE DELAYS WE HAVE CONTRIBUTED STATE AND LOCAL SALES TACK TAX CONTRIBUTIONS. $400 MILLION OF NONCONSUMABLE PRODUCTS. ALSO, WE HAVE CURRENTLY TIME 434 EMPLOYEES ON THIS PROJECT . WE ALSO EMPLOY COUNTLESS OF CONTRACTORS AND THEY STAY ON THE PROJECT . VERY SIGNIFICANT. IT'S HELPING THE LOCAL ECONOMY. WE TRY TO HIRE LOCAL. WE PARTNER WITH THE WORKFORCE . WE DID A HIRING EVENT IN FEBRUARY . WE ARE COMMITTED TO THE AREA . WE UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION WITH THE DELAYS.

WE HAVE TO DRIVE THE AREA, AS WELL . THIS IS OUR WORK FAMILY AND DEDICATED TO THE PROJECT AND TO OUR EMPLOYEES. I ALSO WANT TO TOUCH ON THE DISADVANTAGE BUSINESS

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ENTERPRISE PROGRAM. I WAS ABLE TO COORDINATE AND LAUNCH THIS. WE HAVE 28 WOMEN WORKING ON THE HARBOR BRIDGE PROJECT. ADMINISTRATIVE AND WORKING IN THE FIELD . WE ARE PROUD TO SHOWCASE THEIR EFFORTS. WORKING NATIONALLY WITH PARENT COMPANIES TO RECRUIT MORE WOMEN IN CONSTRUCTION. ALSO WITH THIS PROGRAM WE HAVE MULTI COORDINATOR . WE'VE EXCEEDED OUR GOALS FOR TOTAL PROJECTS. WE ALSO HAVE 150 THROUGHOUT THE COUPLE OF YEARS. I'M SORRY, WE HAVE 150 PEOPLE THAT WORK. ALSO, VERY CRITICAL TO THE VIABILITY OF OUR FAMILY AT HOME AND ON THE JOB, WE HAVE A VERY AGGRESSIVE AND RECOGNIZED SAFETY PROGRAM . WE DO A MONTHLY SAFETY MEETING EVERY MORNING WHERE WE DO AWARDS AND RECOGNITION. WE HAVE DAILY TOOLBOX TALKS. IT'S PART OF THEIR DAILY RISK ASSESSMENT. YESTERDAY, WE HOSTED A CONSULTANT ON THE PROJECT FOR SEVERAL SESSIONS THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT AND IN THE OFFICE TO GET INTO THE GRIT OF TALKING ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH AND PHYSICAL HEALTH AND HOW IT'S CRITICAL TO THE COLLEAGUES ON THE PROJECT. WE ARE ALSO PARTNERING WITH WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS AND THIS ACADEMY TO TRAIN ANY NEW HIRES THAT ARE INEXPERIENCED WITH CONSTRUCTION. NOW I WILL GET INTO THE PAVING OF THE BRIDGE. SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT HERE. YOU MAY HAVE HEARD IN THE NEWS WE RELEASED THE TIMELINE. FIRST TO MIDDLE HALF OF 2025. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO TO THIS OFFICE WEBSITE AND THE OUTLINE TO THE DESIGN RESOLUTION ON THE REMAINING BRIDGE DESIGN CONCERNS. WE ARE WORKING 24 HOURS A DAY TO CATCH UP AND MEET THE SCHEDULE. CERTAINLY MAKES A BEAUTIFUL BACK DROP FOR OPENING SEASON. I ENJOYS SHOWCASING SOME OF THE PHOTOS. HERE WE HAVE THE NORTH PYLON. WE HAVE COMPLETED NINE OF 20. THE POWER CABLE GOES UP . WE HAVE 20 TOTAL UPPER POWER LIVES. WE HAVE 11 TO GO ON THE NORTH PYLON. ANOTHER 200 FEET TO GO. ABOUT 17 FEET , TO GIVE YOU HOW MUCH TALLER THIS BRIDGE WILL BE. VERY SIGNIFICANT ON THE CABLE STATE BRIDGE. THE MILESTONE IN MARCH, WE INSTALLED OF THE STEEL BOX. HE IN MAY, NEXT MILESTONE, WE ARE SHOWCASING ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA WEBSITE, RUNNING THIS TABLE. CONTRACTORS AND QUALITY CONTROL IN WORKING WITH TEXT.

. ON THE BRIDGE DESIGN. MORE DISCUSSION ON THE BRIDGE. YOU CAN SEE THE FRAMES BEING PLACED EACH CYCLE. FOUR SEGMENTS AND ONE FRAME TO TIE TOGETHER. WE ARE ON THE SOUTH TOWER INSTALLING THIS FRAME THIS WEEK. NEXT WEEK ANOTHER MILESTONE FOR THE SOUTH TOWER .

THIS WILL BE INSTALLED. YOU COULD SEE THE ACTIVITY ON THE GROUND. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO TO THE WEBSITE. I WON'T READ THEM ALL. JUST TALK ABOUT THE RESOLUTION FROM PUTTING IN THE

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EXTENSION . THE DELTA FRAME. YOU CAN SEE THE GAP. YOU CAN SEE THE GAP HERE . NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. TO GET REALLY TECHNICAL. IT TALK ABOUT THE CABLE . I MENTION THE FIRST CABLE BOX PLACED ON THE NORTH TOWER. THIS WEEK ON THE SOUTH TOWER. WE WILL BEGIN LAYING THE FIRST CABLE IN MAY. EACH CABLE WILL BE RUN TO THE BACK SPAN AND MAIN SPAN WHICH IS CENTER. THE BACK SPAN POSITION WILL HAVE CABLES AS WELL. THEY WILL MEET IN THE MIDDLE. YOU CAN SEE THE CRANE ACTIVITY IN THE PREVIOUS PHOTOS. EACH WILL HAVE CRANES . MOBILE TO PLACE SEGMENT. IN THE MIDDLE THEY WILL PLACE THOSE ON -- BACK AND FORTH.

YOU CAN SEE HOW THIS WILL START TAKING SHAPE OVER THE SUMMER. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON THE LIGHTING OF THE BRIDGE. NOW YOU CAN SEE IT'S COMING TOGETHER AND WE'VE OVERCOME THE HEADWINDS. SERIOUS PHENOMENAL WE LOOK FORWARD TO ON THIS ICONIC BRIDGE. YOU WILL HAVE UNLIMITED LIGHTING FEATURES. THERE WILL BE TUBES PLACED INSIDE THE TOWER. SHINING UPWARDS FROM THE DELTA AREAS. INCORPORATED IN THE DESIGN OF THE BRIDGE.

THERE WON'T BE ISSUE WITH THE EROSION LIKE WE HAD WITH THIS OTHER BRIDGE. THAT WILL BE IF FEATURE , THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEMES, PATRIOTIC THEMES. WE HAVE THE LIGHTING SECURED ON-SITE. ALSO LIGHTING FOR OTHER BRIDGES. 41 TOTAL BRIDGES ON THE PROJECT PLUS THE ONE OUT OF ROBSTOWN . NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. MOST OF YOU HAVE MY CELL NUMBER. CALL ME WITH QUESTIONS . IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COORDINATE A TOUR OF THE PROJECT . I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO TO OUR WEBSITE . LEAD HERE. CLICK ON THE STATUS REPORT . AND CLICK ON THE MAIN MENU OF THE WEBSITE ABOUT THE BRIDGE. PROJECT OVERVIEW. WE HAVE A PHOTO ON THE ENTIRE PROJECT . I DIDN'T PUT IT IN THE PRESENTATION TODAY FOR INTEREST OF YOUR TIME. JUST TO REITERATE HOW MUCH THE DEVELOPER APPRECIATE YOU AS COMMUNITY LEADERS. PPOR PROJECT. SPEAKING AGAIN , WE UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION. WE ARE VERY PLEASED TO BE PARTNERING WITH TEXDOT. TO RESTORE THE PUBLIC TRUST AND VIABILITY OF THIS PROJECT.

WITH THAT I WILL TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS. >> NO QUESTIONS, ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. I AGREE, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I'M ASKED MOST OFTEN , HOW TALL IS THE BRIDGE? HAVING THIS PRESENTATION TODAY , YOU'VE BEEN VERY THOROUGH. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION AND CONCERN FOR THE PUBLIC ON THIS.

BUT A LOT OF OUTREACH AND TRUSTS. THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT THE TRUST OF THE LITERAL STABILITY OF THIS BRIDGE. I THINK THAT WILL TAKE SOME TIME TO BUILD UP . WHAT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT , THE BIGGEST CONCERNS OF ANYONE .

PAST. 2025 IS ALMOST HERE. IT WILL BE HERE BEFORE WE KNOW IT. I'VE NOTICED EVERY TIME I GO THERE, I SEE THE PROGRESS. IT'S EXCITING TO SEE THERE IS MOVEMENT. I DON'T THINK THERE WAS EVER REALLY A STALL IN THE BIGGER PARTS. YOU ARE IMPROVING ON THAT.

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>> WE DID HALT ACTIVITIES ON THE CABLE BRIDGE. BUT IT'S BEEN ONGOING. TO REMIND YOU ALL, I'M HAPPY TO INCLUDE ANYONE ELSE. A MONTHLY CONSTRUCTION UPDATE . IT GETS DISSEMINATED TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS. IF NOT, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT MYSELF . IS A TECHNICAL REPORT. BUT IT SHOWS WHERE WE ARE AT AND WHERE WE ARE GOING.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.

>> BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM, 3 A 2. LET ME ANNOUNCE IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ITEMS 4 AND 5 . WE HAVE SET THAT AT 2:00 TODAY . THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS BEEN NOTIFIED . EVERYONE IS FULLY AWARE. WE ARE GOING TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION BEFORE WE GO IN THERE . WE HAVE OTHER ITEMS TO DISCUSS. IN CASE YOU WERE WAITING FOR SOME THING . WE

[2. Receive presentation from Corpus Christi Regional Transportation Authority (CCRTA) regarding their 2022/2023 Legislative Agenda.]

WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WE WILL BRING THAT BACK AT 2:00. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO.

PRESENTATION FROM CORPUS CHRISTI TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY. REGARDING 2022

-2023 LEGISLATION AGENDA. >> I'M THE LEGAL COUNSEL FOR CORPUS CHRISTIE AUTHORITY. WE HAVE THE BOARD SECRETARY FOR THE PRESENTATION. ALSO THE MANAGING DIRECTOR FOR RTA. OUR BOARD CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR ARE TRAVELING TODAY AND NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT. WE WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THIS BRIEF BRIEFING ABOUT A LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM GOING ON. IN A SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY AND COOPERATION, WE WANT TO MAKE THE GOVERNMENT IN NUECES COUNTY AWARE . YOU AS A COUNTY, HAVE LIMITED LEGAL AUTHORITY UNDER STATE LAW. THE RTA ALSO. WE ARE FULLY GOVERNED BY THE TRANSPORTATION CODE . I CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNLESS WE HAVE LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT ARE CRITICAL TO US. ONE IS THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE THAT RELATES TO VEHICLES. RTA HAS MADE SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT OVER THE LAST DECADE . UNDER STATE LAW, WE CANNOT USE THE FACILITY BECAUSE OF THE TAX CODE . WE ARE TRYING TO CHANGE THAT SO WE CAN ASSIST OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES IN THE COUNTY. THEY ARE CONVERTING SOME OF THEIR FLEETS TO COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS. THIS IS THE FIRST PRIORITY OF THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION. BUILD AND DRAFTED. WE ARE HOPEFULLY GETTING PROGRESS. WE ALSO ARE TRYING TO MODERNIZE THE APPROVAL PROCESS. WE'VE ALMOST GONE 20 YEARS WITHOUT CHANGES. THE THERE HAS NOT CHANGED. LOWEST FARES IN THE COUNTRY AND SIMILAR COMMUNITIES. WE ARE TRYING TO BE LIKE AUSTIN TO HAVE A FAIR APPROVAL SYSTEM. THE THIRD IS SAFETY. HIRING POLICE OFFICERS AND OTHER OFFICERS. THEY WILL PROVIDE PUBLIC SAFETY AT OUR BUS STOPS. CRITICAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT OUR PUBLIC TO BE SAFE WHEN THEY GO TO A TRANSIT FACILITY. THERE ARE CRIMINAL PENALTIES FOR ANY OFFENSE THAT OCCURS. THIS IS NOT JUST TO

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PROTECT BUS OPERATORS OR RTA EMPLOYEES, BUT ANYONE THAT GOES TO THE FACILITY. IT WILL MAKE PEOPLE THINK TWICE BEFORE THEY DO ANYTHING OR HANG OUT AT THE LOCATIONS OR DO ANYTHING CRIMINAL. WE ARE ALSO VERY MUCH CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT. THE RTA HAS A GRANT FOR ELECT RICK SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COUNTRY AND THE WORLD. GOING TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES. WE WANT TO BE IN A LEADING ROLE IN THAT REGARD . WE ARE WORKING WITH LEGISLATURE FOR CLEAN AIR FUNDING. WE ARE THE ONLY INDUSTRIALIZED CITY IN NORTH AMERICA TO APPLY FOR CLEAN AIR STANDARDS. THAT'S UNUSUAL AND REMARKABLE. RTA IS WORKING WITH THE FUNDING WE CAN BRING TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. TO MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN THIS CAPACITY FOR CLEAN AIR. WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP THAT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. LYNN ALLISON, OUR BOARD SECRETARY STEP IN BUT SHE HAS TRAVEL ENGAGEMENTS. I FORGOT TO MENTION AT THE BEGINNING. I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE FORMER BOARD MEMBER. RTA BOARD FROM THESE AREAS. WE APPRECIATE THAT .

>> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE ANYTHING YOU ARE PUTTING FORWARD SHOWING SUPPORT AT THE COURT.

OBVIOUSLY WE TALK ABOUT COORDINATING ALL OF OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES . I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVEN THOUGH A FEW ITEMS HAVE COME UP THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD ON OUR RADAR, WE CAN BRING IT AT SOME POINT TO SUPPORT THE INITIATIVES. ANYTHING WE CAN DO, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE THERE TO SIT COURT RTA. WE FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THE WORK THAT IS DONE. WE FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THE NATURAL GAS THAT WAS STARTED A FEW YEARS AGO. I REMEMBER THAT FROM A FEW YEARS AGO. AND OUT OF MIND AND OUT OF SIGHT. ]. PART OF YOUR CONTINUED PUSH. ANY TIME THE SUN COMES AROUND AND THE WINDS TURN, WE TALK ABOUT HOW CLOSE WE ARE GETTING. SURE WE ARE IN TOUCH WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY AND MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

THE RTA IS ALSO HERE TO SIT COURT

>> WE HAVE MADE TRIPS TO AUSTIN AND HAD INTERFACE MEETINGS WITH DELEGATES WORKING THROUGH ITEMS. WE ARE CONTINUING THIS. THIS IS A AGGRESSIVE AGENDA FOR THE RTA.

WE ARE VERY PROUD COLLECTIVELY AS A BOARD TO WORK ON THIS. >> THANK YOU, GREAT PRESENTATION, WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> MOVING ON TO ITEM 6. DISCUSS CONSENT APPROVAL FOR LARGE SCALE CONTRACTION FIRST

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SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE. >> NOT TABLE IT, I JUST NEED TO HOLD ON A LITTLE BIT . I'M GETTING CONFLICTING SIGNALS ON THIS ONE. IF YOU CAN HOLD ON IT, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

>> WE ARE NOT TABLING, WE WILL BRING IT BACK UP . WE NEED MORE TIME.

>> I'M GETTING CONFLICTING REPORTS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON .

>> IT HAS NOT BEEN TABLED, NO .

[8. Discuss and consider approval of Change Order No. 9 from Mako Contracting to provide additional concrete repairs and the relocation of A/C condensing units from the roof to an elevated platform underneath the building to pass windstorm inspection. ]

FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON. >> WE WILL COME BACK TO IT. MOVING ON TO ITEM 3 A 8. UP APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDERED NUMBER NINE FOUR MAKO CONTRACTING TO PROVIDE CONCRETE REPAIRS AND RELOCATION OF AC CONDENSING UNITS FROM THE ROOF TO ELEVATED PLATFORMS.

>> THIS IS ALREADY BUDGETED CHANGE ORDER . BUT I NEED HIM TO COME AND VERIFY THAT

>> I THINK HE'S IN MY OFFICE, IF SOMEONE CAN GRAB HIM. I THINK THIS ONE IS GOOD TO GO.

I THINK WE'VE ALREADY BUDGETED THIS. HANG ON ONE SECOND. THIS WAS ON NUMBER EIGHT . TO

CHANGE ORDER FROM MAKO. OF THIS WAS PRE-BUDGETED . >> YES SIR. WE ARE STILL WORKING WITHIN THE INSURANCE PROCEEDS ON THIS PROJECT. WE ARE CLOSE.

>> THANK YOU, THAT'S ALL WE NEED . >> MOTION IN A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED ? MOTION PASSES . THANK YOU. MOVING

[9. Discuss and consider resolution in support of not limiting vehicular access on Padre Island National Seashore; and discuss and consider resolution in support of the current Sea Turtle Science and Recovery Program; and related matters.]

ONTO 3A 9. NOT LIMITING VEHICLE OR ACCESS ON PADRE ISLAND NATIONAL SEASHORE .

>> THIS WAS A RESOLUTION WITH THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI TO MAKE SURE WE RESTATE THE STRONG VISION THAT WE SUPPORT THE SCIENCE AND RECOVERY PROGRAM AND DO NOT SUPPORT ANYTHING TO TAKE ANYTHING AND GET VEHICLE OFF THE BEACHES. WE HAVE LANGUAGE OPPOSING THE SENATE BILL 2550. I BELIEVE IT'S ALMOST MOOT. HE'S HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THIS BILL DIDN'T COME ACROSS THE WAY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO. WITH VEHICLES OF THE BEACHES. WE STILL FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET OUR OPPOSITION ON RECORD ON THIS. JUDGE, YOU AND I MET WITH THE

CITY. THIS WILL BE RESOLVED. I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS. >> SECOND.

>> MIGHT BE ONE OR TWO COMMENTS . A PERSON ON ZOOM. I'M NOT SURE HE WANTS TO

COMMENT I WILL FOLLOW UP AND ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. >> CITY COUNCIL PAST A STRONG RESOLUTION IN FAVOR WITH KEEPING BEACHES OPEN TO NOT ONLY PEDESTRIANS BUT VEHICLES ALSO . ALSO STRONG OPPOSITION TO SENATE BILL.

THE BEACHES THAT THE PUBLIC IS ALLOWED TO ACCESS. VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THE COMMISSIONERS PASSING THE RESOLUTION. OPPOSED 25 FIFTH THE 25 50. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REWRITE

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WILL BE. WE WILL LOOK AT IT VERY CLOSELY. WE HAVE A REALLY RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF OPEN BEACHES AND OPPOSITION TO THE SENATE BILL . THAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT AT THE MOMENT.

ALSO THIS BILL. I WOULD APPRECIATE ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO SUPPORT US . THANK YOU .

>> THANK YOU. YOU SAID YOU HAD QUESTIONS? >> JUST TO CLARIFY. 90 KNOW YOU MENTIONED THIS . THIS IS TO OPPOSE ANY BEACH CLOSURE AND OPPOSITION OF 25 50 .

>> CORRECT. WE ASKED THEM TO DRAFT RESOLUTION SO THEY WOULD MIRROR EACH OTHER. THEY SENT IT OVER. SAME STRONG RESOLUTION. VERY IMPORTANT TO GET THE WORD IN WE WANT TO

OPPOSE IT. >> CONTACT IT IN A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS. IT MAY BE THROWS PEOPLE OFF . ARE YOU IN OPPOSITION OR IN FAVOR? WE ARE IN OPPOSITION TO ANY BEACH CLOSURE. JUST TO CLARIFY FOR ANYONE LISTENING . THAT'S WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON TODAY.

>> ABSOLUTELY. SUPPORT OF SEA TURTLES AND SUPPORT , DON'T TAKE ANY VEHICLES OFF

OUR BEACHES. >> A MOTION IN A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED .

MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10. APPROVAL OF CONTACT MANAGEMENT . AAA

[10. Discuss and consider approval of contract Amendment by Coastal Bend Council of Governments (CBCOG)-Area Agency on Aging (AAA) regarding the meals program and Rate Negotiation Workbook.]

REGARDING THE MEALS PROGRAM. MOTION AND A SECOND. OTHER DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES . THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO ITEM 11. DISCUSS

[11. Discuss and consider the approval of Certificate of Substantial Completion for the Amistad Veterans Memorial & West Haven Splash Pads Project.]

AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF CERTIFICATE OF SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION FOR THE VETERANS

MEMORIAL AND WESTHAVEN'S LASH PADS PROJECT. >>

>> I WILL MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> I WILL SECOND THAT. ANY DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY

AYE. ANY OPPOSED THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ITEM NUMBER 12 . TO DISCUSS

[12. Discuss and consider approving Inland Parks American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) allocation and list for each of the assigned precinct projects as presented by Inland Parks Director; and related matters.]

AND CONSIDER APPROVING INLAND PARKS AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT. ALLOCATE THE ASSIGNED PRESENT

PROJECTS . >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. >> THE ALLOCATION WE MADE TO

INLAND PARKS. OKAY. >> ESSENTIALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS. HE'S PARK WE'RE LOOKING AT 1.5 MILLION. THIS WILL BE DETERMINED BY HOW MUCH WE CAN GET AT THIS POINT IN TIME. IF

WE CAN ONLY GET LIGHTS AND A WALKWAY THAN THAT SET . >> AN AMOUNT FOR THIS PARK AND WHAT YOU CAN GET FOR EACH ONE. INAUDABLE ]. SOCCER AND ALL THESE THINGS IN THE PARK. WE CAN ADJUST.

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>> ACCEPTING AMOUNTS ALLOTTED AMOUNT. I SECOND THAT EMOTION MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ?

>> JUST TO NOTE -- IS NOT ON THEIR. THAT'S OKAY. JUST DON'T FORGET PARK SCHOOLS. THAT'S

THE ONLY PARK I HAVE TO DEAL WITH. >> WE WILL WORK ON IT.

>> DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR BALANCE IS ? >> THIS IS THE WHOLE AMOUNT OF $6 MILLION. THIS PROJECT WILL BRING US THE NEXT LIGHTING SYSTEMS. WE'VE BEEN ASKED ABOUT THOSE THINGS. WE HAVE IT IN HERE HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET IT AT A REDUCED PRICE. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. MOTION PASSES, THANK YOU. ITEM 13. RECEIVED THE

[13. Receive update on COVID-19 recovery expenses from Grants Department and Emergency Management.]

UPDATE ON COVID-19 RECOVERY EXPENSES FROM THE GRANTS DEPARTMENT AND EMERGENCY

MANAGEMENT. >> GOOD MORNING. >> DID EVERYBODY GET A COPY ?

>> IT SHOULD BE ATTACHED. >> BASICALLY FOR COVID-19 REIMBURSEMENT. FROM FEMA WE WERE AWARDED THIS AMOUNT AND ADVANCED THIS AMOUNT. WE RECEIVED IT MARCH 31ST, 2021.

AT THIS TIME WE HAVE 10 REIMBURSEMENTS SUBMITTED. YOU WILL HAVE A LIST .

>> UNDER REVIEW? >> SOME HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND SOME ARE UNDER REVIEW.

WHEN IT WAS SUBMITTED IN HOW LONG IT TAKES, IT'S NOT REAL QUICK. THERE WAS SOME DELAY THIS SKIPS OVER. DEPENDS ON WHEN THEY WANT TO RECEIVE THE REQUESTS. REQUESTS MORE INFORMATION, MORE RECEIPTS OR MORE BACKUP. THAT'S WHY WE ARE SUBMITTING THAT. BUT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED. 1,399,000. I PUT DOWN OBLIGATED BECAUSE IN ADVANCE, THIS GOES FOR THE FULL

EXTENT. >> YOU SAY OBLIGATED. HAS THAT BEEN APPROVED?

>> IT'S APPROVED AND IT GOES TOWARDS THE SUBMITTED EVENT . THE REST IS STILL PENDING UNDER REVIEW. WE DID SUBMIT A DIFFERENT PARTICULAR ONE. FOR VACCINATION ONLY. THERE WAS TESTING INVOLVED, IT COULDN'T BE SUBMITTED WITH THIS PROJECT . WE HAD TO SUBMIT A DIFFERENT KIND OF PROJECT. WE SUBMITTED PROJECT NUMBER 80 TO. CONTRACT LABORATORY.

>> TO THE NEXT ONE . I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT 701. WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE ADVANCED MONEY. BUT WE DON'T USE THE BALANCE OF THAT, IT GOES BACK. IT'S THEIR MONEY , SO GOES BACK. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S OKAY.

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>> BASICALLY 800,000 THAT WE COULD HAVE USED. >> RIGHT.

>> WE HAVE 700,000 APPROVED AGAINST THE 2 MILLION. OUR EXPENSES ARE 1.3 MILLION. IF WE RETURN THE MONEY , WE WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE 1.9 MILLION. IT'S STILL PENDING. POTENTIALLY WE CAN HAVE A NEED FOR THE 1.3 MILLION THAT WE PLAN TO CLAIM

TO QUALIFY UNDER 2 MILLION . >> IF THEY DON'T GET APPROVED IT GOES BACK. WE CAN'T DEDUCT

IT FROM THE 3 MILLION. >> THAT'S CORRECT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE .

>> WE DON'T USE IT, IT GOES BACK. >> BUT WE ALREADY SPENT 1.3 MILLION. SO NOW WE NEED TO DISCUSS WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE 1.3 MILLION. WE DON'T HAVE

THIS UNDER THE GENERAL FUND RIGHT NOW . >> WHEN DO WE GET A FINAL

REVIEW WHETHER THEY ACCEPT OR DECLINE ? >> I'M STILL DEALING WITH

HARVEY. >> VERY QUICKLY. >> 20 YEARS FOR MAJOR STORMS. APPLICATION. THIRD PART IS AN APPLICATION . NOT A PROJECT. $2 MILLION WORTH OF EXPENSES FOR COVID-19. SINCE THEY ARE NOT RELATED TO VACCINATIONS, THAT'S WHY THEY ARE SEPARATE.

CANNOT BE SUBMITTED . >> THAT IS STILL PENDING. >> POSSIBILITY WE HAVE

3,400,000 ON WHAT TO DO ON THE HOOK . >> JUST TO MENTION ON THE FIRST PROJECT. 122 . THAT IS SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION, AS WELL. BECAUSE, IT WAS NOT VACCINATION DIRECTLY . SO IT GOT SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION.

>> I'M SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN. >> THE HUNDRED AND 22,000 INELIGIBLE. IT WAS NOT VACCINE RELATED BUT IT WAS COVID RELATED, SO WE SUBMITTED IT WITH THE APPLICATION. IT'S

INCLUDED IN THAT. >> JUST OTHER COVID. WE HAVE SEVERAL COVID RELATED AWARDS. WE RECEIVE REIMBURSEMENT .

>> WINTER STORM. 239,000. REIMBURSED. OUR SHARE IS 33,000 .

>> I'M SORRY I STEPPED OUT, I'M NOT FEELING GREAT TODAY. TELL ME THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT HAS NOT BEEN REIMBURSED FROM COVID? I JUST NEED THE TOTAL AMOUNT.

>> PROJECT NUMBER 145. >> VACCINATION RELATED 1,299,000 . WE'VE RECEIVED THE ADVANCEMENT OF 2 MILLION. THEY HAVE OBLIGATED 701,000 OF THAT 200 MILLION. HUNDRED

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THOUSAND WAS INELIGIBLE . IT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION. THAT IS 2

MILLION . >> I'M NOT TRYING TO CATCH UP I'M JUST LOOKING FOR A BOTTOM LINE. WHAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE NOT YET BEEN AUTHORIZED TO GET BACK. I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL AMOUNT IS. BIKO 2,000,001 EIGHT . 2,800,000.

>> THAT'S PENDING. HOW MUCH DO WE KNOW OF WHAT WE SUBMITTED WE WILL NOT GET BACK? WE HAVEN'T BEEN REJECTED OF ANYTHING ? SO WE HAVE $2.8 MILLION THAT CAME OUT OF

GENERAL FUNDS? >> EITHER/OR, >> EITHER CAME FROM THE GENERAL

FUND OR THE 2 MILLION. >> CAME FROM THE 2 MILLION. THE OTHER 2 MILLION IS THE

APPLICATION THAT IS ACCOUNTED . >> DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA OF THIS, WHEN WE WILL FIND OUT? OR THE REST OF OUR LIVES BEFORE WE GET IT BACK?

>> IT TOOK 12 YEARS TO FINALIZE AFTER HURRICANE IKE.

>> $2.8 MILLION , TAXPAYER DOLLARS, WE DON'T KNOW IF OR WHEN WE WILL GET IT BACK. WE ARE ASSURED IT WILL GET BACK SOONER QUICK. RESERVE MORE MY COMMENTS FOR LATER. TERRIBLE .

IN MY OPINION WE ARE $2 MILLION OUT. WHO KNOWS IF WE WILL GET IT BACK.

>> A LOT OF IT IS A LOT OF BACKUP DOCUMENTATION AND THEY REQUEST DIFFERENT INFORMATION.

THROUGH THAT. WE GOT THAT AMOUNT IN OBLIGATED WITH THAT AMOUNT. THAT'S CLOSE.

>> WE HAVE TO PAY 33,000. >> THAT ALLOCATION, THAT WAS BROUGHT IN AND RECEIVED.

>> IS GOING TO BE PART OF THAT TICKET. CAME BY THE COUNTY.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> CLEAR THE BILL. >> SOME OF IT IS

[14. Discuss and consider approving payment of outstanding invoices from Hagerty Consulting, Inc., for services related to RFP 3141-20 Disaster Recovery Management for the Emergency Rental Assistance Program (ERAP) and related matters.]

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MOVING ON TO ITEM 14. DISCUSS PREVIOUS PAYMENTS FOR OUTSTANDING INVOICES . RECOVERY MANAGEMENT FOR EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE

PROGRAM. YOU ARE UP AGAIN. >> RECOMMENDING INVOICES FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, MANAGED BY CONSULTING AGENCY. THESE ARE FOR JANUARY, FEBRUARY , MARCH OF 2022. THEY WERE SUBMITTED AND NEGLECT DID TO PROCESS IN THE TIMELY MANNER.

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>> JANUARY AND FEBRUARY OF MARCH 22, THEY WERE SUBMITTED BUT NOT PROCESSED?

>> THAT TIME. IT'S IDENTIFIED, THE CALLS THAT WERE MADE AND CLIENTS SEEN. DURING THAT TIME, I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF PROCESSING . THE COUNTY DID SPEND AN AMOUNT OF MONEY DOING

THAT IN THAT AREA. >> WE JUST IGNORE THESE ? >> IT SAT ON SOMEONE'S DESK.

>> I BELIEVE SO. >> WORK PERFORMED AND DONE. PEOPLE NEED TO GET PAID.

>> WE RECEIVED THE BENEFIT FROM THE COUNTY. TO MY UNDERSTANDING, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON ME SPECIFICALLY, I KNOW THERE WAS BACK IN FOR ON THE HAGGERTY INVOICES. I MAKING

SURE THESE ARE NOT THE ONES . >> EMERGENCY . >> NOT VERY CLEAR.

OTHERS COMING UP I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT. >> ALL HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED. I DID VERIFY AND CONFIRM THAT THESE THREE WERE NOT PAID. BASED ON THE WORK AUTHORIZATION, THEY STILL WERE NOT PAID. THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN PAID , BUT WE WERE NOT NOTIFIED OF THESE OUTSTANDING ONES UNTIL FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.

>> THEY ARE ALL LEGITIMATE AND WITHIN THE FUNDING MECHANISM. HAVE YOU VERIFIED THAT?

>> WE HAVE

>> YES. MAKE SURE LIKE EVERYTHING . >> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> I HAVE ONE QUESTION COMMISSIONER. DID WE GET EVERYTHING FROM THE HAGGERTY FOR THE DOCUMENTS THEY HAD TO TRANSFER? OKAY. THAT IS RELATED. I'M ASKING ABOUT THIS. WE TRANSFER THE ACCOUNTS OR ARE THEY STILL WORKING ON IT X

>> THEY ARE STILL WORKING ON IT . I INCLUDED THE I.T. DEPARTMENT WITH THE STATE OF TRANSFERRING OVER HOW SECURELY. IT IS SECURE SOFTWARE. THE PAYMENTS AND ALL THAT INFORMATION HAS BEEN DONE. IT'S GETTING THE INFORMATION TO THE COUNTY.

WORK DONE THAT WE'VE RECEIVED INFORMATION ON ? >> WE RECEIVED THE INFORMATION , WE HAVE DOCUMENTATION. IS JUST KEEPING THAT DOCUMENTATION IN OUR DATA.

TRANSFERRING THE COMPUTER INFORMATION OVER. WHAT WE PRINT OUT AS FAR AS FOR PAYMENT PROCESSING , ALL THE INFORMATION IS IN THERE. AS FAR AS DEMOGRAPHICS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT IS ESSENTIAL FOR REPORTING TO TREASURY, I STILL HAVE ACCESS TO A BUT

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IT'S NOT INFORMATION FOR THIS PROJECT . >>

>> BECAUSE -- >> HAVE THEY NOT GIVEN IT TO US?

>> IT'S THEIR SOFTWARE. THE HAGGERTY TEAM , I WILL GET WITH THEM TO SEE THE BEST WAY

TO GET THAT COMMUNICATED. >> ARE THEY NOT AGREEING TO PAY IT OR PROVIDE IT ? ARE THEY

AGREEING TO PROVIDE IT? >> THEY ARE AGREEING TO PROVIDE IT. BUT WE HAVE ASKED FOR

EXTERNAL STORAGE. >> DATA, THAT'S ALL I WOULD ADD. WE APPROVED THE PAYMENTS, THEY GIVE UP THE DATA, YOU GIVE THEM THE CHECK. THAT GIVES THEM A LITTLE MORE

INCENTIVE . >> OKAY. >> IS THAT UNFAIR X

>> I AGREE. I DIDN'T WANT TO GET IN THE 30 DAYS. >> WE DON'T HAVE IT, WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR. THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE IT. WE'RE GOING TO PAY, GET WITH I.T.

AND AS SOON AS WE GET IT, HAVE A CHECK READY. >> I KNOW YOU ARE STILL

WORKING WITH THIS. IS THIS ALSO 22 INFORMATION? >> INFORMATION WE REQUESTED FROM HAGGERTY WAS ALL ENCOMPASSING . WE WANTED BACKUP INFORMATION. THAT'S

WHAT WE ASKED FOR . >> DID YOU GET IT ? >> WE DON'T HAVE IT ALL

ENCRYPTED. >> GIVE US THE INFORMATION . AND WE WILL PAY. I KNOW YOU'RE

TRYING TO DO THIS. >>

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED. THANK YOU. MOTION

PASSES. >> I'M SORRY. NOT YOU.

[15. Discuss and consider having all non-elected County Department Heads be direct reports to the Commissioners Court, with the County Judge being their first line contact/supervisor, and any related matter.]

>> WE ARE ON ITEM 15. >> I'M SORRY. >> DISCUSS AND CONSIDER HAVING NONELECTED COUNTY DEPARTMENT HEADS TO DIRECT REPORTS TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WITH FIRST LINE OF CONTACT /SUPERVISOR AND RELATED MATTER. GOING BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS YEARS AGO WITH

FORMER COUNTY JUDGES. FORMER AND FORMER BEFORE THAT. >> MOTION .

>> MOTION IN A SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE . ANY OPPOSED. YES, GO

[6. Discuss and consider approval of a Dune Protection Permit for large scale construction of a single-family residence (DPP-202210-02) located at 101 Mariners Drive, Corpus Christi, TX.]

AHEAD. >> CAN WE GO BACK TO SIX ? >> WE ARE READY WITH 3A 6.

>> DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF DOING PROTECTION PERMIT FOR LARGE-SCALE

CONSTRUCTION OF A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENT . >> YES JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS READY FOR APPROVAL, ADMINISTRATIVELY CORRECT. BOBBY JONES, THE APPLICANT, IS PREPARED IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THERE WAS CONFUSION ON THIS SIDE OF THINGS. I DON'T KNOW IF MEGAN HAD GOTTEN UPDATED INFORMATION WHERE THEY APPROVE OUTSIDE THE 350.

APPLICATION REFLECTS THAT WITH THE MAPS THAT SHOW THAT . THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE MANDATED BY THE SERVICES THAT WE CAN GET AROUND. OUTSIDE OF 350 , ONLY A RECOMMENDATION.

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YOU DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION. I REQUEST YOU APPROVE AND LET THEM KEEP

GOING. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. JUST TO CLARIFY. THE BEE CHAIR AND YOU TALK TO THEM AND YOU ARE ON THE SAME PAGE HE IS OKAY WITH THIS. I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM

HIM. >> HE WAS ON, I DON'T KNOW IF HE STILL IS ON. I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ACKNOWLEDGE HE'S OKAY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT HE'S ASKING AND YOU HAVE IT FIGURED

OUT . >> YES SIR. HE EXPLAINED TO ME. HE WANTED TO HOLD THE LINE FOR

NONPERMANENT SURFACES INSIDE 350 . >> ALL RIGHT. YOU TALKED TO THE CHAIR AND HE'S GOOD TO GO. I WILL CALL THE QUESTION WHENEVER YOU ARE READY .

>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED.

>> YOU SAID YOU HAD QUESTIONS?

QUESTIONS. MOTION PASSES, THANK YOU. >> SORRY ABOUT THE DELAY . JUST

WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR . THANK YOU. >> MOVING TO ITEM 16. I WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, THE NEXT, AFTER THIS, WE WILL PROBABLY BREAK FOR EXECUTIVE AND SHORT LUNCH FOR STAFF. JUST AN FYI FOR EVERYONE HERE. WE HAVE TIME FOR ONE, MAYBE MORE.

[1. Discuss and consider approval of Medical Examiner's Office's recommended elimination of vacant positions and personnel changes, and utilization of the subsequent salary savings to reclassify some current staff positions.]

DOCTOR SABIN IS HERE. WE TOLD HIM WE WOULD PULL HIM UP . LET'S GO TO HUMAN RESOURCES, RIGHT? F 1 . DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE RECOMMENDATION OF ELIMINATION A VACANT POSITION IN PERSONNEL CHANGES AND UTILIZE THE SUB IS AND SALARY SAVINGS TO RECLASSIFY SOME CURRENT STAFF POSITIONS.

>> I HAVE QUESTIONS. WORKING ON THIS. THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD THAT THE COURT ACTUALLY FOLLOWING LAW AND PROCEDURES. ONLY MAKE CHANGES DURING THE BUDGET YEAR THAT WERE A ZERO COST SITUATION. THE LAW CLEARLY STATES IF YOU MAKE AMENDMENTS DURING THE YEAR THAT INCREASES THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET, THAT'S NOT LEGAL. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO TRY VERY HARD TO DO THAT. I APPRECIATE THE COURT DOING THAT WITH EVERYBODY ON THAT. I MET WITH COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, WE DISCUSSED ALL THAT . A VERY KIND . I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT LEADS TO UNDERSTANDING THERE WILL BE SALARY RECLASSIFICATIONS. IT WILL BE PERMANENT SAVINGS SO ZERO PROSECUTOR BUDGET. IT'S A LAW WE'VE BEEN GOING BY AND

FOLLOWING . IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT . OF THE LAW STATES WE CANNOT INCREASE THE BUDGET FROM ONE YEAR . FOR EXAMPLE, GENERAL FUND $110 MILLION, CAN'T GO ABOVE THAT IN LESS DIRE EMERGENCIES SITUATION REQUIRES THAT. GO WITH THE SAVINGS WE HAD AND

CHANGES , HAS NOT HAD AN IMPACT ON THE BUDGET AMOUNT . >> AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE YOU WORKING WITH THE COURT AND UNDERSTANDING IT'S NOT A PERSONAL THING BUT GOING BACK TO FOLLOWING THE LAW. WE DIDN'T FOR A WHILE AND GRATEFUL TO GET BACK TO DOING

THAT. I JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN THERE AND THROW THAT IN. >> IF YOU WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT, OTHERWISE I CAN MAKE A MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND . TO TELL

US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. AS YOU ARE AWARE , AND COMMISSIONERS FOR WORKING WITH US.

WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT.

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WE HAVE . THIS PLAN HAS NO ADDITIONAL COST. TODAY INCLUDES THE ELIMINATION OF ONE POSITION AND IT WILL BE ABSORBED BY THE OTHER TEAM MEMBERS. IT INCLUDES THE ELIMINATION OF PART-TIME INVESTIGATOR POSITION. THIS INCLUDES VOLUNTARY POSITION .

INAUDABLE ]. MEDICAL EXAMINERS OFFICE

OF HUMAN RESOURCES. >> COURT MANAGER, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION?

>> HE'S NOT TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING. HE'S GOING TO BE IN THE CONSENT ITEM, AS WELL.

>> WE WILL MOVE FOR THAT ONE NEXT. I COULDN'T HEAR YOU. TALKING INTO THE MICROPHONE.

>> MY APOLOGIES. >> THAT WILL WORK FOR EVERYBODY.

SECOND . >> I WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT. A REMINDER TO ALL DEPARTMENTS , DOING IT THE WAY WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO IT . SO NOBODY FEELS LIKE WE ARE DOING ANYTHING TO ANYBODY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE NOBODY THINKS WE ARE TRYING TO SAY NO TO SOMEBODY. WORKING ACROSS THE BOARD AND SEND OUT A REMINDER.

>> WE WILL SEND IT OUT . >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE . MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. A DON'T LEAVE, WE WILL PULL UP

[4. Discuss and consider conditional selection of Quincy Technology Solutions, Inc. for RFQ No. 3224-22 Case Management Software for Medical Examiner (ARPA).]

YOUR NEXT ONE. OR MICHAEL, SINCE YOU ARE HERE. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER TECHNOLOGY AND

SOLUTIONS . >> THIS IS FOR THE CASE MANAGER SOFTWARE FOR THE MEDICAL EXAMINER . WE'VE RECEIVED THREE PROPOSALS. WE HAVE A EVALUATION COMMITTEE MEET AND REVIEW THE PROPOSAL. RECOMMENDED ADDITIONAL SELECTION IN TECHNOLOGY FOR CASE MANAGER SOFTWARE FOR MEDICAL EXAMINER . AWAITING THE BOARD'S APPROVAL. WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT, IF YOU DON'T MIND. AGAIN, THIS SOFTWARE HAS BEEN FUNDED. WE ALREADY HAVE FUNDING FOR THAT. QUINCY TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS. SERVICES FOR MEDICAL EXAMINER .

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS . ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED SAME SIGN. MOTION PASSES, THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME OUT OF YOUR DAY TO COME

OVER. >> I THINK WE HAVE TIME FOR MAYBE ONE MORE BEFORE WE GO TO

[16. Discuss and consider installing Automated External Defibrillator (AED) devices in all county courtrooms and allowing Emergency Management Coordinator and/or Risk Management to assess the need, number of courtrooms and total cost.]

EXECUTIVE AND LUNCH. 16, CONSIDER INSTALLING AUTOMATED DEFIBRILLATOR DEVICES IN ALL COUNTY COURTROOMS AND ALLOWING EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR AND RISK MANAGEMENT

TO ASSESS THE NEED , NUMBER OF COURTROOMS AND TOTAL COST. >> VIEWERS INVOLVED . HAVE ONE IN EVERY COURT. WE HAVE TWO OF THESE FLOORS. I THINK WE NEED TO BE PREPARED. WE HAVE

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A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE .

>> MOTION TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER. ASSESS THE NEED AND COST AND BRING IT BACK.

>> WE DID FIND OUT AFTER THAT, LET ME JUST ADD, THE RISK MANAGER, TIMOTHY, WE DID FIND OUT AFTER OUR INCIDENT THAT THERE WERE THREE BOARDS THAT DID NOT HAVE THEM ON. I THINK

THEY ARE ALREADY UP ON THE BOARDS. >> THEY ARE BEING INSTALLED AS

WE SPEAK >> EACH FLOOR ALL THE WAY UP TO THE 13TH FLOOR. IN THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE. NOT ONE IN THE CENTRAL ROOM. THERE IS ONE OUTSIDE ON THE WALL. I DOUBLE CHECKED ALL THIS. THERE ARE SEVEN GPS OUT THERE. THEIR LOCATION . WE HAVE A TOTAL, DOUBLE CHECK MY NUMBERS REAL QUICK COMMISSIONER. I WAS GOING TO GO AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 59 DEVICES THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTY. ANY SAFETY OFFICERS. WITHIN ONE MINUTE OF EVERY OFFICE. CARDIAC CHAIN OF CARE. WE GET A A.D. TO CITIZEN OR A COUNTY EMPLOYEE THAT HAPPENS TO BE IN CARDIAC ARREST FOR THE FIRST MINUTE. EACH MINUTE IT GOES

DOWN BY 10%. >>

>> I'VE GOT THAT CALL , AS WELL. THAT WILL WIND UP BEING A TOTAL OF 22 QUARTS IN THE

COUNTY. 22,000 >> WE HAVE 59 DEVICES. WE HAVE THEM IN THE JAIL. WE HAVE FACILITIES WHERE THE OFFICERS ARE. WE HAVE THEM OUTSIDE THE COURTROOM. WE HAVE THEM IN JUVENILE. HILL TOP COMMUNITY. THE ROBSTOWNS. WE HAVEN'T MET THE POOL, THE

FAIRGROUNDS , THEY ARE DISPERSED. >> I THINK THE COURTHOUSE IS COVERED . WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERY OFFICE WHERE WE HAVE STAFF WILL BE PROVIDED. I

WANT TO DO THAT FIRST. WE HAVE EVERYONE. >> COMMISSIONER , I WILL DOUBLE CHECK THAT . EVERY BUILDING WE HAVE EMPLOYEES IN, THERE IS AT LEAST ONE.

>> WE COME BACK WITH THIS. >> THEY ARE ALREADY THERE. ALL OF THEM HALF IT. I HAVE A

MASTER LIST. I WILL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT TO YOU. >> DO WE HAVE PEOPLE QUALIFIED

? >> WORKING THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW . SOME OF US HAVE HAD CPR TRAINING IN THE PAST. WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING TO RECTIFY THAT SITUATION.

>> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ON THE EAST FLOOR ? >> THAT'S OUR OBJECT OF AND

TRAINING PROCESS. >> KNOW WHAT WE HAVE AND A LIST OF WHAT WE NEED.

>> YES SIR . >> YOU WANT TO SHARE. >> UNDERSTOOD.

>> MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S GOT IT.

>> MOTION TO BRING IT BACK TO THE FLOOR. >> SECOND FOR THE

RECOMMENDATION. >> RECOMMENDATION . >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE . OPPOSED . WE ARE >> JUDGE, IF YOU WANT TO DO

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17. AS LONG AS THAT SPEAKS TO ME. THAT COULD THE QUICK. >>

>> NEVERMIND, SORRY. >> OKAY. >> I'M FINE. YOU WANT TO DO

[17. Discuss and consider using 1115 Waiver Funds in the amount of $50,000 with regard to the Innovative Readiness Training (IRT) medical costs in order to have available funds going forward. ]

17. DISCUSSING CONSIDER USING WAIVER FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $50,000 WITH REGARDS TO READINESS TRAINING MEDICAL COSTS IN ORDER TO HAVE AVAILABLE FUNDS GOING FORWARD .

WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS TRAINING PROCESS AND BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY AND COMMUNITIES.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED .

>> WE HAVE RECEIVED WORD 11:15 WAIVER IS APPROPRIATE. >> PERFECT . LEGITIMIZE.

[4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.]

>> OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND A BREAK FOR LUNCH. I AM ALSO GOING TO PULL , I KNOW THERE IS MUCH DISCUSSION BUT PULL ITEM 3 A 4. ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE ATTORNEYS BEFORE WE BRING IT BACK TO OPEN SESSION.

IF I CAN FIND IT, GET BACK TO IT. EXECUTIVE SESSION, PUBLIC NOTICE COMMISSIONERS COURT ELECT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS MAKE MATTERS ON THE AGENDA WHEN AUTHORIZED BY PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. THIS FOR DISTINGUISHING ITEMS FOR PUBLIC TO DELIBERATION AND FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE PUBLIC IS ADVISED THAT THE COURT IS DEPARTING FROM THAT PRACTICE, AND RESERVE THE RIGHT TO DISCUSS ANY LISTED AGENDA ITEMS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WHEN AUTHORIZED BY LAW TO DO SO. IN THE EVENT COMMISSIONER COURT A LIKES TO GO INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION REGARDING AN AGENDA ITEM, THE SECTION OR SECTIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE -- THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL HOLD EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH ATTORNEYS INCLUDING MATTERS RELATED TO LITIGATION, DELIBERATE REGARDING REAL PROPERTY, PROTECT OF GIFTS, PERSONNEL MATTERS, INCLUDING TERMINATION. A COUNTY ADVISORY BODIES , SECURITY DEVICES AND/OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND OTHER MATTERS THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. UPON COMPLETION OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY BE IN A OPEN SESSION TAKE SUCH ACTIONS AS APPROPRIATE FOR ITEMS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. HIRING OUTSIDE COUNSEL ATTORNEYS AT LAW REGARDING ISSUES RELATING TO PADRE VALLEY PARK. LEGAL ISSUES AND RELATED MATTERS.

ITEM B. CONSULT WITH COUNTY ATTORNEY IN REGARDS TO SUPPORT OF A RESOLUTION RELATING TO THE GOVERNANCE OF THE PORT OF CORP. IS KRISTI AND ALL RELATED MATTERS. THE GOVERNMENT CODE

ON THAT. >> 551-071-4072 . ITEM C. CONSULT WITH COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING LEGAL ISSUES AND HIRING OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO REPRESENT NUECES COUNTY IN CASE NUMBER 2022-CV -61337-4. D . CONSULT WITH COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING LEGAL ISSUE OF HIRING OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO REPRESENT AYE IN CASE MARGARET MARY SMITH VERSUS NUECES COUNTY ,

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TEXAS. ITEM E . CONSULT WITH COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING CEASE-AND-DESIST LETTER RELATING TO PADRE VALLEY PARK PROVIDE STATUS UPDATE DISCUSS LEGAL ISSUES AND RELATED MATTERS. AND THEN ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVING A QUESTION FROM 3A 4. TO

DISCUSS ATTORNEYS FEES . >> FOR THE RECORD, I WILL REITERATE THAT'S NOT FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THAT'S A SEPARATE ATTORNEY THAT HAS THEIR OWN RELATIONSHIP.

THIS WAS BROUGHT IN BY A COMMISSIONER WHO REQUESTED TO ASK A QUESTION BEFORE WE GO

INTO OPEN SESSION. >> THAT WOULD BE UNDER WHAT GOVERNMENT CODE ?

>> 551 -- 071 . >> 12:38.

BELIEVE I HAD A ANOTHER ITEM I WILL LOOK PULL UP . WE WILL GO AHEAD AND FINISH WITH THE ACTION ITEMS FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. SORRY. ITEM FIVE B. TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER

[B. Discuss and consider support of a resolution relating to the governance of the Port of Corpus Christi and all related matters.]

SUPPORTIVE RESOLUTION RELATING TO THE GOVERNANCE OF THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND RELATED

MATTERS. SORRY. >> RESOLUTION WITH CONDITIONED THAT WE REMOVE SUNSET ITEM OR TABLE IT. REMOVE IT WOULD BE

BETTER. >> WE HAVE A MOTION, DO WE HAVE A SECOND . WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RESOLUTION WITH EVERYTHING, EXCLUDING THE SUNSET ITEM ON

THE RESOLUTION. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> REAL QUICK, JUDGE . I WILL BE VOTING FOR THIS FOR THE GREATER GOOD . THERE'S NOTHING TO BE AFRAID OF FIRST SUNSET .

I UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IT . IT'S JUST A REVIEW AND A GOOD SET OF EYES. REALITY IS WE HAVE TO GET IT DONE AND I APPRECIATE PEOPLE WORKING ON THIS. A TOUGH ISSUE. NOT AT ALL PUNITIVE . A GOOD WAY TO SEE THINGS. AT THE SAME TIME , I UNDERSTAND THE REALITIES OF THE DAY . THE OTHER GOOD THINGS ON THEIR I WILL BE SO PORTING COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ'S MOTION. SECOND . ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. SORRY, DID YOU WANT TO DISCUSS ?

>> I AGREE. I THINK SUNSET IS VALUABLE. SOMETIMES IT MAY NOT COME ON THE RADAR AND IT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. I DON'T WANT TO PASS IT OFF BUT THIS IS SOMETHING I KNOW WITH THE EXAMPLES GIVEN THAT HAVE BEEN DONE FOR OTHER PORT AUTHORITIES. I WOULD NOT HAVE A PROBLEM SUPPORTING THAT PROCEDURE . THE BOARD SHOULD HAVE A DISCUSSION ON. EACH LOCAL BODY THAT WANTS TO SEE THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI HAVE THAT DISCUSSED. INAUDABLE ] IT'S WORTH PREPARING FOR. I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE RESOLUTION. INAUDABLE ]. IT SHOWS GOOD FAITH. I HOPE THE COUNTY TAKES IT IN GOOD FAITH. ONE

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PART I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ESTABLISHING THE ROTATING CHAIRMANSHIP. CAUSE I LOCAL ENTITIES OPERATE BY STATUTES, RULES AND LAWS OF STATE . FROM THE CUSTOMERS THEY HAVE COMING IN. WITH ANYTHING YOU KNOW THE CHAIRMANSHIP WORKED UP OVER THE YEARS. THEY PUT. THEMSELVES . VICE CHAIR IS PREPARED . WITH HOW THAT IS WORDED THAT THEY CAN WORK ON THAT . THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN. I DO SUPPORT THE OTHER ITEMS. AS LONG AS ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE BEING HELD TO THE SAME STANDARD . THIS COUNTY SAYING WE WANT TO OPERATE BY THE STANDARDS. THE COURT OFFER SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AS LONG AS IT'S UNDERSTOOD THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE ARE YOU KNOW LADDERING UNILATERALLY SUPPORTING.

>> WHICH PART SPECIFICALLY . >> A RESOLUTION TO SOUP PORT THIS WE WILL NOT HANDCUFF OURSELVES TO ONE STANDARD COMPARED TO THE OTHER. IT WILL BE ALL OR NOTHING ON THIS.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. OBVIOUSLY THE LAW WON'T CHANGE . THE COUNTY HAS PASSED THE RESOLUTION IN FULL , INCLUDING THE SUNSET. POSSIBILITY WHERE SUNSET MIGHT HEAD OVER HERE. AND NOT KNOWING WHAT EVERYBODY FELT. THEY HAVE THE REST OF IT. I TALKED TO THE MAYOR OF PORTLAND THE OTHER DAY. I THINK THE SUNSET WAS THE CONTROVERSY 01. IT REALLY ISN'T . BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. NOW WITH THESE OTHER FOUR OR FIVE BACK ON. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY REAL OBJECTION TO ANY OF THESE. OBVIOUSLY, THE LAW WILL NOT PASS . WE WILL WAIT FOR THE

CITY NOW. >> THESE WERE SUGGESTED BY THE PORT , ITSELF?

>> NO, THESE WERE THINGS COLLECTIVELY WE HAVE MET WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COUNTY AND CORPUS CHRISTI AND VISITED WITH PEOPLE IN SAY COME UP WITH THINGS THE BODIES MIGHT CONSIDER FAVORABLY. AND MAKE A DECISION ON. THAT'S WHERE THESE CAME FROM.

>> THIS VARIES ON THE APPOINTMENT. DIFFERENT BODIES WITH SHORTER TERMS OR LONGER TERMS. I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT . CITY COUNCIL APPOINTS DIFFERENT NUMBERS OF BODIES . THAT'S NOT A BIG ISSUE TO ME. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A SUPPORTER IF YOU HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER OR ONE MEMBER OF THE BODY TO BRING UP ITEMS FOR THE AGENDA. IT'S DIFFICULT, BE IN ADVOCATE ON ONE. I SUPPORT THAT. THE LAST THING I WAS WONDERING I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF HEART BURN WITH PUBLIC SERVICE WHEN IN THREE YEARS, IS THERE A NUMBER FOR THAT?

>> THAT WAS A SUGGESTION. PORT COMBINES A LOT OF PROPERTY. IN A LOT OF THE CASES THAT COUNTY IS CONCERNED. NOTHINGS GETTING PUT BACK ON THE TASK. YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO GO OUT AND BUY PROPERTY THAT YOU SEE FIT . DON'T JUST BUY UP ALL THE VALUABLE PROPERTY AND LET IT SIT THERE. AND TAXPAYERS DON'T GET ANYTHING BACK. THEY MAKE IT A PORT BUILDING THAT

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DOESN'T GET TAXED. THEY CAN LEASE IT THEN WE GET PROPERTY TAX. IF THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING, THEY LET IT SET AND SAY I NEED TO HOLD THE PROPERTY FOR 10 TO 15 YEARS BECAUSE IT'S VALUABLE PROPERTY. WE GET THIS OFF THE TAX WILL. HONESTLY, I THINK IT'S A PRETTY SOLID IDEA. WE ARE LOOKING FOR TAX REVENUE , OTHER THAN RAISING TAXES. THIS IS ONE OF THE AREAS THEY COME

UP WITH TO OFFSET THAT. >> WE MAY HAVE A SIMILAR ISSUE . I'VE BEEN ON SCHOOL BOARD.

A LARGER DISTRICT SAY THEY HAVE VACANT PROPERTIES OR SCHOOLS, THEY HOLD ONTO THEM.

TRY TO GET IT BACK ON THE TAX ROLLS. I KNOW IT'S LONG-TERM HERE. THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN .

I GET IT , MAYBE 10 TO 15 YEARS IS AMBITIOUS . OR HOPING ON THEIR PART THEY WILL HAVE SOMETHING COME ALONG THE ALONG THE CORRIDOR THAT THE PORT HAS. THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TAKEN OFF BECAUSE OF THAT REASON AND ALLOW THEM TO WEIGH IN ON THIS.

I'M SURPRISED I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM ON THIS MATTER. ON THE PUBLIC AGENDA. SOMEONE FROM PORT STAFF , THEIR THOUGHTS . PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SUNSET . THAT'S MY CONCERT ON THAT. I SEE THE ABILITY TO BUY PROPERTY AND PLAN WITHIN FIVE YEARS. IT COULD TAKE MULTIPLE YEARS TO BUILD UP. I GET IT, TOO . HOW MUCH PROPERTY IS NEEDED . NOT BEING RECYCLED OR REUSED.

>> A LOT OF WORK FOR THE COMMITTEES. THESE CONVERSATIONS WE CAN START HAVING. IT'S ALL OF THESE THINGS, TIME, WE'VE ALL HAD CONVERSATIONS . WE'D ALL LIKE TO HAVE MORE TRANSPARENCY .

THE ONLY CONVERSATION I HAD THAT WAS A CONCERN, I'M STILL ON SUNSET TODAY. I'M NOT FIGHTING IT. I'M NOT GETTING EXACTLY WHAT I WANT OUT OF IT. THAT'S PART OF THE DEMOCRATIC

PROCESS, RIGHT? >> I'M GOOD WITH THIS. YOU'VE ALREADY SHOWED WILLINGNESS TO COOPERATE. PUTTING FIVE OF THE ITEMS OUT OF MOVING FORWARD ON THE RESOLUTION.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. HOW LONG WILL IT BE SUNSET BE BROUGHT

BACK AT ANY TIME? >> I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST ON THAT. I KNOW THE GOVERNOR SUPPORTS THIS. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. I THINK IF IT'S TALKED ABOUT FOR THIS TO RESURFACE. IT'S NOT A BAD CONCEPT IF PEOPLE GET USED TO IT. I THINK EVERY 10 YEARS YOU DO IT. NOT LIKE IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. I GET IT, PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW, I RESPECT THAT. AT THE SAME TIME, I'D RATHER GET POSITIVE THINGS DONE. THOSE OTHER FIVE THINGS ARE POSITIVE. IT IS WHAT IT IS. WE BRING IT BACK AGAIN WE SHOULD BRING IT UP . I PLAN ON BRINGING IT BACK AGAIN AND HAVING A DISCUSSION BEFORE THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND

EVERYBODY GET COMFORTABLE WITH IT. >> I THINK THE BOARD SHOULD NOT LET LAND SIT THERE. TAKING IT OFF THE TAX ROLL TO WHERE IT WILL LIMIT THE COUNTY WITH TAX REVENUE . WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT. I THINK SUNSET MIGHT BE THE WAY

TO GO. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION . EXCLUDING SUNSET. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION . EXCLUDING SUNSET

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. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED . MOTION PASSES. EVERYTHING EXCEPT ITEM NUMBER ONE SUNSET. OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY HAS COME IN. I TOLD HIM I WOULD BRING IT UP WHEN HE

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CAME IN. GOING BACK TO THE REGULAR AGENDA, ITEM 4 AND FIVE. BASICALLY THE SAME. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. DISCUSSED GOING CONSIDER ATTORNEY FEES . I THINK YOU WANTED TO ADDRESS

THIS? >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY ATTORNEY IS ON ZOOM. I WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO HEAR FROM HIM. YOU CAN ASK HIM QUESTIONS OR ME QUESTIONS. THAT WAY YOU WILL BE

FULLY INFORMED. >> YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT. >> ROW?. I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING HERE. I'M NOT FEELING GOOD. I DON'T WANT TO GET ANYBODY SICK . I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK I'M NOT THERE BUT I FEEL TERRIBLE AND DON'T WANT TO GET IN THERE AND MAKE

PEOPLE SICK . >> I'M SORRY, I GAVE THE MESSAGE BEFORE WE WENT ONLINE.

I HOPE HE FEELS BETTER. UNDER THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT THERE IS A PROVISION THAT REQUIRES THE COUNTY PROVIDE REPRESENTATION FOR COUNTY OFFICIALS WHEN THEY ARE SUED ARISING OUT OF THEIR PERFORMANCE. THAT IS A PROVISION IN PLACE TO PROTECT EVERYBODY. THIS IS A SUIT BROUGHT BY ONE INDIVIDUAL CITIZEN. KEEP IN MIND, NOT A CRIMINAL COMPLAINT OR JUDICIAL COMPLAINT . NOTHING CAUSE I CRIMINAL IN NATURE. IT IS A LAWSUIT BROUGHT BY A CITIZEN WHICH COULD BE BROUGHT AGAINST ANY OF YOU. IT TOMORROW THERE WILL BE A PETITION TO REMOVE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY BECAUSE HE SPENT TOO MUCH MONEY ON OUTSIDE SERVICES FOR A JOB YOU CAN DO YOURSELF . WE DON'T KNOW. THERE SHOULD BE REPRESENTATION BY COMMISSIONERS. REQUESTS FOR AG OPINION. THAT WOULD SURMISE AND FIND DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ARE NOT OFFICIALS WITHIN THE COUNTY. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE OPINIONS CITED . THIS IS CITED AND SAYING SOMETHING DOESN'T MAKE IT SO. I DID AN ANALYSIS OF EVERY ONE OF THEM. NOT A SINGLE ONE WITH THE ORIGINATING OPINION SAID THAT OPINION.

INVOLVING OTHER DISTRICTS, NOT DISTRICT ATTORNEY. THE GENERAL OPINION EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T HAVE A BASIS IN FACT, THEY HAVEN'T DONE AN ANALYSIS, THEY DON'T RELY ON THE COURT . I'VE DONE A THOROUGH SEARCH. AND NOT A SINGLE CASE WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS, DISTRICT ATTORNEY WOULD NOT BE AN OFFICIAL. THIS IS NOT AN OPTION BUT A MANDATORY RIGHT FOR MR. GONZALEZ TO BE PAID, JUST AS ANY OF YOU WOULD IN REGARDS TO THIS. I ANTICIPATE THESE INFORMAL REQUESTS AND FORMALLY REQUEST, I WILL IN WRITING INFORM YOU THAT I'M DEMANDING YOU DO IT IF YOU DON'T DO IT, I WILL FOLLOW A DEMAND STATEMENT AND WE WILL TAKE IT AS FAR AS WE NEED TO, EVEN TO THE SUPREME COURT TO MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT PUBLIC OFFICIALS, LIKE YOURSELF, ARE PROTECTED WHEN A CITIZEN FILES A PETITION AGAINST YOU. THAT'S WHAT IT'S THERE FOR. I DON'T SEE HOW YOU GET AROUND THAT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE OPINION I'M ASSUMING YOU RECEIVED. ONE OPINION IS LEFT OUT OF THAT . IT GOES TO THE ANALYSIS AND TALKS ABOUT IT.

THIS IS PUTTING ON PAPER THAT IT'S MANDATORY TO REPRESENT IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY THE COMMON LAW FOR PROVIDING THE REPRESENTATION . I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO GET THAT FAR. YOU

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ARE OBLIGATED TO DO IT. HERE'S ANOTHER THING . YOU PAY FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S SALARY. YOU MAKE A DETERMINATION IF IT'S CHANGED. YOU KNOW BECAUSE YOU PAID FOR REPRESENTATION IN REGARDS TO MR. GONZALEZ ANOTHER DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S. IN 1983 REGARDING CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATION. EVERY CASE, INCLUDING PARTICULAR ONES HAVE DETERMINED THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ACTS ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY. COUNTY ATTORNEY IS THE COUNTY OFFICER OR OFFICIAL. YOU CAN SONG AND DANCE AROUND THAT. IF YOU RELY ON A PINION THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION, YOU RELY ON A PINION WRITTEN BY SOMEONE THAT WORKED FOR ME, WOULD BE FIRED . I AM TRYING TO LOOK OUT FOR EVERYBODY. I STAND UP FOR MR. GONZALEZ TO HAVE GOOD REPRESENTATION. HE'S AN OFFICIAL THAT HAD A LAWSUIT BROUGHT AGAINST HIM FOR POLITICAL REASONS, INVOLVING THINGS THAT ARE NO LONGER PART OF THE PETITION. THE REQUEST FOR A ETERNAL IS TALKING ABOUT OFFICIAL MISCONDUCT. THE PLEADING EXISTS IN REGARDS TO THE STATE HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY REVAMPED AND CONTAIN ZERO IMPLICATION OF MISCONDUCT . WHATEVER THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS REQUESTING TO MAKE AN OPINION ON, IS FLAWED TO BEGIN WITH AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE PROCESS, AS WELL . I'M TRYING TO IMPLORE ON YOU TO DO WHAT YOU ARE OBLIGATED TO DO AND, OR, DO WHAT YOU SHOULD DO . SOMETHING THAT CAME ABOUT WITH HIS PERFORMANCE OF OFFICIAL DUTY. IT COMES DOWN TO A DISLIKE OF HOW HE DOES THAT . LIKE A DISLIKE OF ANYONE ELSE THAT SITS ON THE COMMISSION OR A BUSINESS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE ARE DEMANDING, AND/OR REQUESTING THAT . EITHER WAY, WE WILL MAKE SURE WE GET THIS DONE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOUR DECISION. I WILL PUT SOMETHING IN WRITING BY TOMORROW MORNING AND WE WILL PUT A TIMELINE ON IT AND TAKE ACTION. I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE CAUGHT OFF GUARD . THIS ISSUE IS A SLAMDUNK AND EASY TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON. EVEN THEN, THIS IS JUST ADVISORY. I CAN'T IMAGINE THE STATE OF TEXAS WILL NOT SAY YOU COULD REPRESENT AND PROVIDE REPRESENTATION FOR AN OFFICIAL THAT HAS BEEN ELECT DID BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS A DISAGREEMENT WITH

A MANNER . >> I ASSURE YOU, NUMBER ONE WE DON'T TAKE THIS LIKELY. WE ARE ALL VERY CONFLICT DID AND WE WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING. THIS IS NOT ABOUT POLITICS. WE ARE HEARING DIFFERENCES OF OPINION. I BELIEVE SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS, AS WELL. WE HAVE QUESTIONS ON HOW TO DO THIS. NUMBER ONE, WE ARE TO PROVIDE A ATTORNEY. YOU ARE ALREADY HIRED, THAT'S NOT US PROVIDING A ATTORNEY. THAT WOULD BE AN ATTORNEY OF OUR

CHOICE. >> MAY I RESPOND TO THAT BRIEFLY.

>> PLEASE. >> I'VE BEEN SUED TWICE IN MY OFFICIAL CAPACITY . THE KIND OF THINGS, WHO WOULD I LIKE TO HIRE. AT THAT POINT IN TIME, IT DIDN'T MATTER TO ME, AS LONG AS THEY DID A GOOD JOB AND THEY DID. I SOMEHOW HAD A FEW CHOICES. I ENDED UP HIRING MR. MILLER, WHICH IS SOMETHING I'M DONE BEFORE. THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENED LAST TIME. INAUDABLE ]. THE COURT OR SOMEONE WOULD SAY THIS IS WHO IS GOING TO BE YOUR LAWYER . IF

WE WERE TO DO WHAT WE DID LAST TIME . >> I UNDERSTAND. I WASN'T PART OF THAT . I WASN'T HERE. I UNDERSTAND THE COUNTY WAS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE LAWSUIT .

>> THERE WERE MANY PEOPLE INCLUDED. >> IT'S ABOUT THE COUNTY.

>> I'M ASSUMING YOU ARE ASKING, MARK GONZALEZ DOES NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE APPOINTED COUNSEL. WHEN HE'S SHOWING UP AT HEARINGS TO DEFEND HIMSELF . I UNDERSTAND THAT HE HAS RETAINED ME TO REPRESENT ME. YOU CAN ALL MAKE A DECISION FOR SOMEONE ELSE. I

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WILL LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU AND MR. GONZALEZ. TO SAY HE RAN OUT TO GET SOMEBODY WAS A

MISSTATEMENT. HE HAD TO HAVE SOMEONE IN HIS CORNER. >> THAT WAS NOT MY SUGGESTION.

IF WE MOVE FORWARD, AS YOU HAVE ALREADY DONE SO, WE ARE DEBATING THIS, WHO GENERALLY HIRES THE ATTORNEY. THE BILLS COME TO US ANSWER TO US. THIS IS NEW FOR ALL OF US. IT IS VERY DIFFERENT. THE BILLS COME HERE AND WE ARE THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, WE'VE HAD ALL KINDS OF DISCUSSIONS THAT IT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN A NORMAL CASE.

>> MAY I ADDRESS. OF THE EMPLOYMENT OF MR. MILLER. HE WAS MY ATTORNEY. THINGS WE SHARED WAS CLIENT/ATTORNEY PRIVILEGE. NO WAY THAT HE WOULD COMMENT OR REPORT TO THE COMMISSIONER BOARD OR THE JUDGE. IN DEFENDING MYSELF . HE WAS NOT YOUR ATTORNEY NOR THE COUNTIES ATTORNEY. HE'S REPRESENTING ME IN MY CAPACITY. I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE A

MISTAKE. THAT WOULD BE MISINTERPRETATION . >> THAT'S NOT THE WAY I

UNDERSTOOD IT. >> IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME. I WILL GLADLY OFFER AN

ANSWER. >> WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. I'M SORRY, YOU SIGNED UP TO TALK. THE ONLY ONE FROM THIS MORNING .

DON'T THINK ANY PERSON IN THE ROOM WANTS TO GO THROUGH THIS. IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, WE DON'T HAVE A RECALL. IF A PUBLIC OFFICIAL, ELECTED OFFICIAL IS GUILTY OR MIGHT BE GUILTY OF SERIOUS DERELICTION OF DUTY, SUCH TO THE POINT OR LACK THEREOF, THIS IS THE ONLY PROCEDURE WE HAVE TO REMOVE A ELECTED OFFICIAL. A VERY HIGH STANDARD TO SET. THIS WOULD INDICATE THE EVIDENCE ASSEMBLED IS VERY SUBSTANTIAL . IT'S BEEN BROUGHT WITH SOME FOLKS.

IF THE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST THE DAR DETERMINED TO BE TRUE AND UPHELD, THE VICTIM COMES ARE THE CITIZENS OF CORPUS CHRISTI , WHO HAVE BEEN VICTIMIZED BY THE DERELICT DUTIES AS THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY CORPUS CHRISTI. WHETHER OR NOT IT'S UPHELD, IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION. IF THEY ARE, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WOULD REMOVE THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY. IF YOU ARE MAKING A DETERMINATION . I GUESS YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU PAY IS LAWYERS FEE. I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE ASSUMPTION THAT LAWYERS FEES WOULD BE CAPPED AND PAID IF HE'S FOUND INNOCENT OF DERELICTION OF DUTY . WE DO NOT WILLY-NILLY REMOVE ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM OFFICE. IT'S A DIFFICULT PROCESS AND A HIGH STANDARD. I GUARANTEE YOU, NOBODY WANTS TO DO THIS. BUT RESPONSE TO THE EVIDENCE WAS SUCH . THE RECENT FILING TO REMOVE THE CHARGES HAS BEEN DENIED, INDICATES THE EVIDENCE IS SERIOUS. I CONGRATULATE THE COURT FOR THINKING THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION. THIS RARELY HAPPENS . A DERELICTION OF DUTY IS SO GRAVE THAT IT IMPERILS THE PUBLIC SAFETY. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT HERE. CHARGES ARE UPHELD . I HOPE YOU THINK ABOUT WHO THE VICK THEM IS HERE. WHAT IS SAID IF THE CHARGES ARE TRUE, THE CITIZENS OF CORPUS CHRISTI ARE VICTIMIZED BY THE DA NOT DOING HIS JOB. THAT'S PRETTY BAD . THANK YOU, YOU HAVE A TOUGH JOB TO DO. AND NOBODY WANTS TO DO IT, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE, THANK YOU.

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>> ANYONE ELSE WANT TO COMMENT?

BUSINESSMAN. I BELIEVE THERE IS NOT VICTIMIZATION HERE >> YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS

PLEASE . >> PETER --. IT IS THE CITIZENS OF NUECES COUNTY THAT ELECTED THIS GENTLEMAN TWICE IN A ROW. I DON'T SEE ANY VICTIMIZATION UNTIL THE CASE IS DONE. HE IS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTY. WE SHOULD PAY FOR HIS LEGAL EXPENSES. WE VOTED FOR YOU GUYS, TOO. WE ARE YOUR CONSTITUENTS. WE WILL REMEMBER THIS DAY WHEN IT'S TIME TO

VOTE AGAIN. >> THANK YOU. >> WE NEED TO SUMMARIZE A LITTLE BIT FOR EVERYBODY WHAT'S GOING ON. WHEN I WAS ASKED TO LOOK INTO THE ISSUE, IT'S NOT CLEAR. LOCAL GOVERNMENT ONE 57 901 . HAD EARLIER VERSIONS, IF YOU WILL. WHICH FOUND NOT TO APPLY TO DISTRICT PERSONNEL . DISTRICT ATTORNEYS. AND OTHER DISTRICT.

IN A KIND OF DISTRICT , HOSPITAL DISTRICTS , ETC. OF THE REQUEST WE MADE A REQUEST FOR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WHICH IS COMMON TO DO WHEN THEY WANT TO GET GUIDANCE. NOT EVERYONE CAN A CREST REQUEST ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION. WE REQUESTED THIS OPINION THROUGH THE AUDITORS OFFICE TO AVOID ANY ALLEGATIONS OF COLLUSION. CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? NOBODY'S EVER HAD TO TELL ME THAT BEFORE. THAT REQUEST WENT OUT. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS MADE A REQUEST TO A NUMBER OF ENTITIES , REQUESTING INPUT INTO VARIOUS QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED . SOME OF THE ENTITIES LIKE ASSOCIATION OF COUNSEL AND JUDGES IN COMMISSIONERS ASSOCIATION. ATTORNEY GENERAL TAKES THIS SERIOUSLY. I EVEN GOT A CALL FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IN MITCHELL COUNTY ABOUT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL LETTER REQUESTING ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION. THIS IS NOT CLEAR-CUT, AT ALL. THERE ARE NOT CASES EXPLAINING ALL THIS.

THE STATUTE , AS YOU HAVE HEARD, WITH RESPECT TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE ONE 57.901 , PREDECESSORS ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS DEFINED SINCE 1987, I BELIEVE. DISTRICT ATTORNEYS AND DISTRICT OFFICIALS ARE NOT COUNTY OFFICIALS FOR THESE PURPOSES. I AGREE AS WAS POINTED OUT THAT SOME COURTS HAVE FOUND THEM TO BE COUNTY OFFICIALS FOR CERTAIN ACTIVITIES. SO WE HAVE ISSUES HERE. THE LANGUAGE THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION RELIES ON IN THOSE EARLIER VERSIONS , HASN'T CHANGED. OTHER PORTIONS OF THE STATUTE HAS CHANGED BUT NOT THE PORTION THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS RELIED ON. WE HAVE THOSE LIMITATIONS.

THERE IS ONE COURT CASE THAT IDENTIFIES, IF THIS INVOLVES A CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS, THIS DOES NOT UP PLY . ALL THOSE DIFFERENT ISSUES, I REQUESTED THREE THINGS FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL . THREE OPINIONS, IF YOU WILL . FIRST OF ALL, DOES ONE 57 APPLY TO REMOVAL ?

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THAT'S THE QUESTION. THERE HAVE BEEN JUDGES IN THE PAST PROVIDING REPRESENTATION TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY OR THE SHERIFF OR TO OTHERS . THEIR INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY. IN EVERY ONE OF THOSE CASES, THE CONDUCT ON WHICH THE LAWSUIT IS PREMISED SOUGHT FOR LIABILITY FOR THE COUNTY. THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN A REMOVAL ACTION. THERE IS NO VICTIM. I HEARD SOMEONE SAY IT'S NOT EVEN CAUSE I CRIMINAL . ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT, REMOVAL ACTIONS ARE ? I CRIMINAL . THE ONLY ISSUE IS , WAS THERE MISCONDUCT THAT QUALIFIES FOR REMOVAL . IF THERE IS, THAT'S IT . THAT'S THE ONLY THING THE JURY DECIDES. IF THE JURY FINDS THE MISCONDUCT AMOUNTS TO A BASIC REMOVAL, THE ONLY REMEDY IS REMOVAL. THERE IS NO MONEY DAMAGES, NOTHING ELSE. IN THE SENSE THAT ALL THE JURY DOES IS DETERMINE GUILT OR INNOCENCE, THE SUPREME COURT SAID IT SQUAWS I CRIMINAL. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T INVOLVE CRIMINAL LIABILITY. IT DOESN'T INVOLVE PERSONAL LIABILITY ON BEHALF OF THE ATTORNEY . AND NO MONEY DAMAGES AGAINST THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY. BECAUSE OF THOSE DIFFERENCES, I HAVE ASKED THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO GIVE ME HIS OPINION WHETHER OR NOT ONE 57 APPLIES TO A REMOVAL ACTION. AS WAS POINTED OUT, THIS IS AN JUST A DISTRICT ATTORNEY ISSUE, ANYBODY HERE CAN BE SUBJECT TO REMOVAL. DOES IT APPLY ARE NOT? OR IS IT A CIVIL LAWSUIT? WE NEED TO KNOW . THE OTHER QUESTION I ASKED THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, IS WHETHER OR NOT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL INSISTED DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND OFFICERS ARE NOT COUNTY OFFICIALS FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS STATUTE. YOU HEARD MR. YALE TALK ABOUT HE DOESN'T BELIEVE IT IS. I UNDERSTAND THAT. MY LETTER TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL POINTED OUT, DISTRICT ATTORNEYS HAVE BEEN FOUND TO BE COUNTY OFFICIALS FOR THE PURPOSE OF MAKING COUNTY POLICY, IN CERTAIN INSTANCES. OTHER INSTANCES, NOT . YOU ARE MAKING A BLANKET STATEMENT IT DOESN'T APPLY TO THEM. IS THAT STILL YOUR OPINION? WE NEED TO KNOW THAT. THE THIRD THING I ASK, GET TO THE COMMON-LAW RIGHT TO GO AHEAD AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO PROVIDE A DEFENSE OR HIRE A ATTORNEY IN THIS SITUATION. I BRIEFLY COVERED THAT . UNDER COMMON LAW, YOU HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY TO EXPEND FUNDS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNTY, IN THIS CASE, DETERMINE THIS. THE EXPENDITURE IS NOT JUST FOR THE PERSONAL BENEFIT OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, BUT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNTY, AS A WHOLE. YOU MUST FIND THE CONDUCT ON VARIOUS ISSUES, WAS DONE HAVE A PROBLEM IN THIS CASE. ONE OF THE ALLEGATIONS IN REMOVAL. I KNOW IT'S BEEN AMENDED, BUT IT'S STILL THERE. ONE SPECIFICALLY IS ADMISSION OF GOVERNMENT FACILITIES FOR PERSONAL USE. ESSAY CRIMINAL OFFENSE. ACCORDING TO ONE COURT , THIS ACTION DOESN'T APPLY . THERE IS A REFERENCE TO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A VIOLATION, I DON'T KNOW . BUT THERE IS A REFERENCE TO BRIBERY STATUTE . DISCLOSE FOR MONEY AND SO ON .

I DON'T THINK THEY ARE ADVANCING ON THAT THEORY. THE QUESTION I HAVE IS , CAN THE

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COUNTY, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THERE ARE ALLEGATIONS OF CRIMINAL CONDUCT , MAKE THE DECISION NOW, TO PROVIDE A DEFENSE. OR MUST IT WAY LIKE IN CRIMINAL ACTIONS UNTIL GUILT OR INNOCENCE. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS FOUND BASED ON A CASE THERE CAN BE NO PUBLIC ASSISTANCE FOR DEFENDING A CRIMINALLY GUILTY OFFICIAL. IF THERE IS AN OFFICIAL, THE OTHER CRITERIA , NOT PERSONAL BENEFIT SOLELY FOR THE INDIVIDUAL AND PERFORMANCE OF THEIR DUTY. AFTER THE PERSON IS ACQUITTED, YOU CAN REIMBURSE IN THAT SITUATION, IF YOU DECIDE TO DO IT. THE IMPORTANT THING, THAT'S DISCRETIONARY ON THE COMMISSIONER . MEETING THOSE CRITERIA. JUDICIAL REVIEW , BUT IT'S DISCRETIONARY .

THOSE ARE THE THINGS I HAVE ASKED . I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT PROCESS WILL TAKE. I HAVE BEEN RETAINED BY THE COUNTY ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT MATTERS. I'VE REPRESENTED THE COUNTY FOR THE COUNTY AND OFFICERS IN THEIR OFFICIAL CAPACITY . I'VE ALSO REPRESENTED OFFICERS IN THEIR INDIVIDUAL CAPACITIES. I HAVE ATTORNEY/ QUIET CLIENT PRIVILEGE . I HAVE RESPONSIBILITY TO THE COMMISSION. YOU HAVE TO APPROVE MY HIRING. THE WAY THE SYSTEM WORK IN THE PAST, SOMETHING COMES UP, WE DO A CONFLICT CHECK . I DO A CONFLICT CHECK, WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A LEGAL OR PERSONAL CONFLICT OR BUSINESS, ETC. . THEN, WE GET WITH COUNTY ATTORNEY AND DISCUSS THE TERMS OF MY EMPLOYMENT. WHEN IT FINALLY COMES TO YOU ALL, YOU HAVE TO DECIDE BASED ON THE PROPOSED CONTRACT. WHAT ARE MY FEES? HOW AM I CHARGING? WHAT AM I NOT CHARGING . WILL YOU CHARGE $.25 A COPY OR WHATEVER , SO FORTH . HOW OFTEN HIM AM I SUBMITTING THE BILLS SEND WHO DO I SUBMIT THEM TO. ALL THAT IS IN MY ENGAGEMENT LETTER. I PRESUME EVERYONE HAS THAT LETTER. THEN THE COMMISSIONER HAS TO AUTHORIZE. IT'S ON THE AGENDA . AUTHORIZATION TO HIRE MYSELF FOR THIS MATTER . WHEN I MEET WITH MY CLIENT IN THE INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY, I EXPLAINED THE COUNTY HAS DECIDED TO HIRE ME TO REPRESENT THAT PERSON. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO GET YOUR OWN COUNSEL.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THE COMMISSIONERS AGREED TO PAY ANYBODY ELSE, THEY AGREED TO PAY ME . THEY ALWAYS HAVE THEIR RIGHT FOR THEIR OWN COUNSEL. I EXPLAINED THAT EVERY TIME. THAT'S DUE PROCESS . THAT'S THE PROCESS WE GO THROUGH . I KNOW YOU ALL AND UP SAYING DO WE APPROVE THIS PERSON OR NOT. THAT'S THE PROCESS ATTORNEYS HAVE TO GO THROUGH. ASSUMING, IF WE JUMP AHEAD, IF WE ASSUME THAT ONE 57 APPLIES TO A REMOVAL ACT , OR IF YOU EVEN WANT TO APPLY THE COMMON-LAW , AND IN EITHER CASE , STATUTE SPECIFICALLY SAYS 157 THAT THE COUNTY CAN CHOOSE TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY. UNDER COMMON LAW, SAME THING.

SO YOU LOOK AT 157 . 901B. IF THE COUNTY DECIDES IT'S APPROPRIATE, THE COUNTY HIRES COUNSEL. I THINK MR. GALE RECOGNIZES THAT . HE JUMPED IN, IT'S HAPPENING FAST, HE NEEDED TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN THEIR. COUNTY NEEDS TO CHOOSE AND APPROVE WHATEVER COUNSEL IT HIRES. OF COURSE, THE STATUTE RECOGNIZES EXACTLY WHAT I TOLD YOU ALL OF US GO THROUGH WHEN

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YOU REPRESENT SOMEONE IN THE INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY. SECTION C SAYS DISTRICT ATTORNEY DOESN'T LIKE WHO WE HIRED , HE DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE HIM. NO . GET MY OWN. THAT'S FINE. SO THAT'S THE PROCESS . WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, IS IN A MUDDLED STATE, IN MY OPINION. IT IS NOT CLEAR TO ME THAT ONE 57 APPLIES. IT IS NOT CLEAR TO ME EITHER FINDING THE REMOVAL OR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WILL DETERMINE THIS IS COUNTY EMPLOYEES. IT'S INTERESTING THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS, SO I WOULD KNOW. BUT I DON'T SEE THAT . ON THE OTHER SIDE IF THE COMMISSION CHOOSES TO GO AHEAD AND DO THIS ON SIMPLY THE COMMON-LAW, CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO SPEND FUNDS. THERE IS THE ISSUE OF THE ALLEGATIONS. AGAIN, THERE IS NO CRIMINAL PENALTY, IT'S A REMOVAL MATTER. BUT IT BEGS THE QUESTION, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT IN AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES. THE SUPREME COURT HAS A QUASI- CRIMINAL PROCEDURE. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THOSE QUESTIONS.

THERE IS VERY LITTLE CASE LAW . IF WE DO THIS, IF THE COMMISSION GOES THROUGH AND IN ITS DISCRETION DETERMINES IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY AND NOT THE PERSONAL INTEREST OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY , THAT IT INVOLVES THE PERFORMANCE OR, EXCUSE ME, THE ACTUAL ADMISSION IN THE COURSE OF DUTY OF THE DA, I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE TO CARVE OUT THAT PORTION OF THE ALLEGATIONS THAT SAYS HE WAS USING COUNTY FACILITIES FOR PERSONAL USE. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE, I BELIEVE. AS AN ATTORNEY , CERTAIN WAYS YOU CAN COLLECT ATTORNEY'S FEES IF THE CASE IS SUCCESSFUL. MANY TIMES WHEN YOU ARE IN A LAWSUIT. ALLEGATIONS OF CONTACT THAT WOULD COME UNDER A FEE CHIPPING STATUTE WHERE SOMEONE GET FEES AND ALLEGATIONS WHERE THERE ARE NO FEE CHIPPING BENEFIT, IF YOU WILL. THE ATTORNEYS HAVE TO CAREFULLY DESIGNATE WHAT THE WORK WAS FOR. WAS MY TWO HOURS OF RESEARCH, DID THAT INVOLVE A RESEARCH FOR A CAUSE OF ACTION? OR WAS IT TWO HOURS OF WORK INVOLVING COURSE OF ACTION THAT DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO RECOVER ATTORNEY FEES.

KEEPING THAT SEGREGATED IS SOMETHING THE ATTORNEYS DO, IN MY LINE OF WORK , ON A REGULAR BASIS. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE. AGAIN, THE JUDGE BROUGHT IT UP. THIS IS A UNIQUE ACTION . IN A CASE WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE , COMMISSIONERS APPOINTED COUNSEL , AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A COUNTY INTEREST INVOLVED, COUNTY LIABILITY . I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE'S FEE SUBMISSIONS OR INVOICES LOOK LIKE. I'VE NEVER REVIEWED MR. MILLER'S FEES. I WORKED WITH MR. MILLER ON CASES AS COCOUNSEL . HE'S REPRESENTING ONE PORTION OF THE LAWSUIT AND I AM REPRESENTING ANOTHER. THEY HAVE TO COME IN SOME WAY.

NORMALLY, THOSE THINGS WOULD GO TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. IT WOULD SEEM VERY STRANGE TO ME, THAT THE DA COUNSEL IF THE COMMISSIONERS CHOOSE TO GET ONE, WOULD SUBMIT THEIR FEES

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AND INVOICES THROUGH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OFFICE. I THINK THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM . THAT HAS TO BE AVOIDED. THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE . SO, WHATEVER ARRANGEMENT IS MADE AS THE COUNTY GOES FORWARD, BACK CAMP BE PART OF THE SOLUTION TO BILL FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD AGREE TO THAT. I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS YOU MAY HAVE. I CAN'T MAKE YOUR DECISION FOR YOU. IT'S UP TO YOU BUT I WILL TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE FOR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO RENDER AN OPINION. I DO BELIEVE IT'S SOMETHING BEING LOOKED AT VERY CLOSELY.

>> THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OF MITCHELL COUNTY . I CALLED HIM BACK SEVERAL TIMES AND HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET THROUGH TO HIM. HE'S IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE. BUT HE WANTED TO CALL ME BECAUSE THEY HAVE A SIMILAR ISSUE GOING ON UP THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A REMOVAL ACTION GOING ON. BUT PERHAPS THE ISSUE OF A DISTRICT ATTORNEY ORDERED

DISTRICT OFFICER IN AN APPLICATION STATUTE . >> REASON WHY WE WERE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR SO LONG AS WE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS. WHAT YOU ARE TELLING US HERE IS WHAT YOU TOLD DOESN'T MAKE A DECISION AT DISCRETION. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SAYS CAN WE EXERCISE DISCRETION. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SAYS WE WON'T ANSWER THAT. THAT'S A DETAILED FACT ISSUE THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO RESOLVE AS COMMISSIONERS OR THE BOARD OR WHOEVER IT IS.

THEN WE WILL REVIEW IT, BECAUSE YOU ARE SUBJECT TO SOMEONE SUING. THAT'S ALWAYS TRUE.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. THE COUNTY THAT CALLED YOU, DID THEY LET YOU KNOW UNDER WHAT

GROUNDS ? >> I WAS ON ANOTHER LINE AND HE LEFT A VOICE MESSAGE.

BASICALLY HE SAID I SAW YOUR REQUEST FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION, I'D LIKE TO TOUCH BASE BECAUSE WE HAVE ISSUES UP HERE, I LIKE TO TALK TO YOU. THAT'S IT. I MADE THREE PHONE CALLS

BACK AND THEY WENT TO VOICEMAIL. >> THANK YOU.

>> I DON'T WANT TO CHAMPION THAT WHEN YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY .

>> REAL QUICK. THE REQUEST FOR THE OPINION THAT HE HAS WRITTEN TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL . IT HAS THREE PARTS . IT COMES UP WITH THE FALLACY. BASED ON THE ORIGINAL PETITION FILED BY THE CITIZEN. IT ALLEGES SOMETHING THAT WOULD PERHAPS BE CONSIDERED CRIMINAL ACTION.

BUT THIS DOES NOT REGARD ANYTHING WITH MISCONDUCT. THE REMOVAL STATUTE IS OUT.

ANYTHING WITH THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED . IT'S NOT IN THE SECOND PETITION. THE OTHER ONE WITH THE USE OF FUNDS IS NOT A VIOLATION. THAT'S WHERE YOU USE PUBLIC FUNDS TO FIX YOUR HOUSE. YOU HAVE PEOPLE COME OUT AND FIX YOUR ROADWAY. PERSONAL THINGS. REFURBISH YOUR EQUIPMENT . THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY ARE ALLEGING TO. THEY ARE ALLEGING TO NOTHING THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. EVEN IF IT WAS IN THE BEST LIGHT IT WOULD BE A VIOLATION FOR ETHICS COMPLAINT OR ADVERTISEMENT POLITICALLY DURING SOME KIND OF FACEBOOK

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POST. IS NOT WHAT WAS DONE HERE. THERE IS NOTHING CRIMINAL. I WOULD ASK, IF YOU TRULY WANTED TO GET AN ACCURATE OPINION FROM THE ATTORNEYS OFFICE, YOU DON'T START WITH THE PREMISE THERE IS A CRIMINAL ACTION INVOLVED IN THIS. THEY WILL RUN WITH THAT , INSTEAD OF WHAT THEY SHOULD, WHICH IS WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU. I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR. I WANT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT FACT. YOU ARE STARTING WITH A PREMISE THAT IS FLAWED . AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU WILL END UP WITH AN OPINION THAT'S FLAWED. EVEN THAT, I THINK THIS IS PRETTY CLEAR. I DON'T THINK IT'S MODELED. I THINK IT'S REALLY CLEAR. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO SOMETHING, DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T. EVEN IF IT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME. EVEN IF ONE 57 DOESN'T ACTUALLY APPLY, IT DOES APPLY . HE'S AN OFFICIAL . HE'S CHARGED WITH SOMETHING BECAUSE OF HIS EMPLOYMENT. EVERYBODY'S AN EMPLOYEE, HE DESERVES REPRESENTATION. YOU DON'T TELL THE EMPLOYEE, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SURVIVE THE ONSLAUGHT OF THESE ALLEGATIONS FINANCIALLY. IF YOU DO WE WILL CONSIDER PAYING YOU AT THE END OF THE DAY. SOME PEOPLE WON'T SURVIVE THAT ONSLAUGHT . IT'S A EXPENSIVE PROCESS . I THINK YOUR PINION SHOULD BE FIXED TO INCLUDE SPECIFICS . AND NOT INCLUDE THINGS THAT ARE NOT WITH A FLAWED ANALYSIS TO BEGIN WITH.

WITH THAT SAID, I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR. I WILL SEND OUT MY DEMAND TOMORROW. I'M NOT YOUR ATTORNEY AND I'M NOT TRYING TO GIVE YOU ADVICE. I'M GIVING YOU CLARITY ON WHAT'S

COMING DOWN THE ROAD. >> THE AMENDED POSITION PULLED OUT TWO MAJOR ALLEGATIONS HAVING TO DO WITH RECUSAL TO PROSECUTE CERTAIN CASES. THE ALLEGATION OF MISUSE OF THE FACILITY THE ALLEGATION OF REFERENCE TO BRIBERY REMAINS IN THE CURRENT PETITION. I'M NOT TRYING TO SNOW ANYBODY ELSE. IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD .

>> I WOULD ASK. I THINK SOMEONE ASKED THIS MORNING. WHEN TIM MCCOY HAD SOMETHING BROUGHT UP AGAINST HIM. THAT WE DIDN'T PROVIDE HIM WITH ATTORNEY . CAN YOU ANSWER THAT ? DO YOU KNOW IN THE PAST? THEY NEVER ASKED FOR THEM. WE DIDN'T PROVIDE AN ATTORNEY .

ARE COVERED, IT IS AN ENTITLEMENT. MY UNDERSTANDING BOTH OF THOSE PROCEEDINGS, NEITHER ONE GOT REPRESENTATION. WITH THE SECOND PETITION FILED. WE ARE NOT DEALING WITH AMENDED WE ARE DEALING WITH SECOND AMENDED . THERE IS NOTHING CONTAINED IN THERE. IF THERE IS ALLEGATION WITH INVISIBLE INK, I CAN'T SEE IT. INFORMATION. IT'S A RARE CASE. THE CASE WE HAD BEFORE . IT WAS A LAWSUIT FILED AGAINST THE COUNTY . THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION AND STATUTES AND ALL KINDS OF INFORMATION ON ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER. SOMETHING, SHOULD WE DO THIS OR NOT DO THAT. OUR CONCERN AS A COUNTY. MY CONCERN , MAKING SURE WE TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE . WE HAVEN'T HEARD ALL THE

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DISCUSSION. I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION . MY MOTION BASED ON EVERYBODY'S TESTIMONY , NOT TESTIMONY BUT INFORMATION ON BOTH SIDES, BEFORE MR. HALE CAME ON BOARD , BEFORE I SAW HIM TODAY. I KNOW SOMETIMES ATTORNEY GENERAL'S REVIEW AND GIVE YOU ANSWERS . ] WE COULD WAIT FOR A LONG TIME FOR THE OPINION TO COME BACK. THE MOTION TO HIRE OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO REPRESENT THE INTEREST OF THE COUNTY. AND THE DA AND THE ACTION. INAUDABLE ] CURRENT OUTSIDE COUNSEL SHALL SELECT SAID COUNSEL TO BE APPROVED THROUGH COMMISSION COURT AT THE NEXT MEETING. FURTHERMORE ATTORNEY FEES RECOVERED BY THE DA IF

HE'S FOUND NOT GUILTY . CAN BE REIMBURSED . >> THREE PARTS TO IT. I WILL SECOND .

WE WE HIRE. >> WAS THERE ANOTHER PART OR WERE THOSE THE MAIN POINTS?

>> FOUND NOT GUILTY AND RESPONSE FROM THE OTHER PARTY WE SHOULD REIMBURSE.

PRONOUNCE HIS NAME. -- WOULD COME UP WITH THAT. PUT HIM IN THAT ROLE?

>> WE WOULD SELECT SOMEBODY . ATTORNEY WOULD PICK . WE DON'T HAVE A COUNTY ATTORNEY. THIS WOULD ACT IN THE ROLE. COUNTY

ATTORNEY IS OUT OF THIS PROCESS. >> YES .

>> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WERE THE MAIN POINTS. MY OPINION THERE IS NO STATUTE KEEPING THE SAME COUNSEL .

WITHIN REASON. AND NOT TOO HIGH, NOT TOO LOW. >> I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF THE COURT. I UNDERSTAND THE CAP. THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS LOOK AT OTHER CASES THE COUNTY HAS ENGAGED OUTSIDE COUNSEL. THREE OPINIONS TO GET THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION. HAVE THEM COME UP HERE A FEW TIMES. I DON'T KNOW IF MONEY CAN BE SPENT DEFENDING THE CASE. I WOULD SAY WHAT IS REASONABLE FOR THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS OR OTHER LITIGATION, YOU LOOK AT THAT. I UNDERSTAND WE ARE ALL IN NEW AND DEEP WATERS. I

UNDERSTAND THE COURT'S CONCERNS. >> YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CURRENT MOTION IS. SOMEONE OUTSIDE . THAT WAS THE MOTION IS.

>> THE COURT WOULD BE OPPOSED TO MAINTAINING MY CURRENT ATTORNEY ? THIS IS A QUESTION TYPE OF SCENARIO. WHY WOULD THE COURT NOT HAVE TO TO HAVE THE CURRENT ATTORNEY THAT'S

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ENGAGED IN ALREADY PREPARED TO CONTINUE DOING THE JOB AS OPPOSED TO BRINGING SOMEONE BRAND-NEW ON AND THEY HAVE TO REVIEW MAYBE IN CONJUNCTION WITH MR. GILL . WE ARE TALKING

ABOUT THE SAME MONEY, SAME TASK. >> NOT THE SAME MONEY IN THE SAME CAP. WE COULD TALK WITH HIM AND SEE WHAT HE WOULD HAVE TO OFFER. BUT HE WOULDN'T BE

THE ONLY ONE WE TALKED TO. >> WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT THE COURT HAS A SET AMOUNT AS A CAP. AND LOOKING AT OTHER ATTORNEYS ENGAGED IN THIS TYPE OF LITIGATION. AND ITS ACCEPTABLE TO HIM, WITH THE COURT BE OPPOSED TO EMPLOYING HIM ON MY BEHALF?

>> CAN I COMMENT ON THAT ? >> I WILL BE REAL HONEST WITH YOU. I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR MR. GAIL BUT HE SUES THE COUNTY ALL THE TIME. I THINK IT'S A CON FLICKED BEING HIRED BY THE DA , HE DOES A GREAT JOB, SUES THE COUNTY ON A REGULAR BASIS. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S A CONFLICT FOR MR. GAIL. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET PAID BY THE COUNTY AND SUE THEM . IT'S A HARD ONE TO SWALLOW. OPINION IS, CHRIS IS A GREAT LAWYER, BUT WE DON'T HIRE HIM BECAUSE HE SUES US. WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD LAWYERS THAT WE HIRE TO DEFEND THAT DON'T HAVE THE CONFLICT WITH THE COUNTY.

MARK , MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU DO SOME SORT OF REPRESENTATION. I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH MR. GAIL, BECAUSE HE IS GOOD AT WHAT HE DOES IN SUING GOVERNMENT ENTITIES. THAT'S A CONFLICT. IF WE ARE SAYING WE ARE PROTECTING THE INTEREST OF THE COUNTY. THE WAY WE HIRE , THE STATUTE SAYS WE HAVE TO SAY AND BELIEVE THIS IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF NUECES COUNTY , I MEAN THIS WITH THE GREATEST RESPECT. HE'S NEVER BEEN ON OUR SIDE. THAT WOULD BE A REASON FOR ME BEING CANDID AND HONEST. A GREAT RESPECT FOR CHRIS HALE AS A LAWYER. IT'S HARD FOR ME, ESPECIALLY WITH COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ IS MOTION . MARK, I WOULD NEVER WANT HIM TO COME IN AND TELL ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGED INFORMATION. I AGREE. AM I COMFORTABLE HE WILL PROTECT THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY WHEN HE SUES THE COUNTY ALL THE TIME. THAT'S A HARD ONE.

>> CAN I SAY SOMETHING? >> YES . >> I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY'S CONCERNS. WHOEVER PAYS YOUR BILLS IS NOT NECESSARILY YOUR CLIENT. YOUR CLIENT IS WHO YOU OWE CONFIDENTIALITY TO. AS HE SAID EARLIER, THE COUNTY MAY PAY HIM TO REPRESENT HIM AS AN INDIVIDUAL. MY LOYALTY IS SMART. I WANT TO MAKE SURE HE GETS THE RIP REPRESENTATION. I THINK IT SHOULD BE ME. I WOULD REPRESENT ANYBODY WHO CAME IN HERE. AN ELECTED OFFICIAL IN NUECES COUNTY. ANY ALLEGATIONS COME AGAINST TO WHAT I BELIEVE ARE POLITICALLY MOTIVATED. I AM NOT GOING TO WORK FOR THE COUNTY. I'M GOING TO WORK FOR THE DA AN OBLIGATION BY STATUTE. THIS IS FOR THE COUNTY BUT THIS IS NOT A CONFLICT. I WILL NOT LOOK TO THE COMMISSIONERS BUT THEY SHOULD BE KEPT IN THE LOOP .

WITH APPROVAL I WOULD DO WHATEVER YOU WANT ME TO. HE MIGHT BE RIGHT, I'M OFTEN

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TIMES AGAINST YOU GUYS . >> CHRIS ALWAYS. ALWAYS. >> BUT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, HIRE SOMEBODY FOR MR. GONZALEZ , THAT IS IN LINE WITH THE COUNTY .

>> I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE ATTORNEY. I WANT TO HIRE SOMEONE FOR MR. GONZALEZ THAT HE CAN RECOMMEND AND HE KNOWS A STABLE OF LAWYERS THAT ARE IN LINE WITH THE COUNTY. WE COULD GET MR. MILLER , HE IS GREAT . HE WOULD DO A GREAT JOB FOR US. I'M NOT TRYING TO ARGUE, I'M

TRYING TO ANSWER FOR MARK. >> REPRESENTATION BUT NOT GOOD REPRESENTATION. I WILL

STAND ON MY OWN . >> YOU ARE THE ONLY GOOD LAWYER, I GET IT.

>> I WAS ASKED WHY IF WE ARE HIRING SOMEONE AND WE PAY THE BILLS, WE HAVE AN INTEREST. IF WE WILL FOLLOW THE STATUTE, IN ANY SITUATION, WE WOULD ALWAYS HIRE SOMEONE WHO WOULD HELP THE PERSON AND HELP THE COUNTY. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE A BELIEF AS GOOD A LAWYER YOU ARE, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE THE COUNTY INTEREST AT HEART, YOU MAKE A LIVING , YOU ARE GOOD

IT'S A COMPLIMENT, YOU ARE GOOD AT WHAT YOU DO. >> IF I'M AT ATTORNEY LOOKING OUT FOR THE COUNTY'S INTEREST. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HIRING SOMEBODY.

>> NO I'M NOT. IT'S IN THE COUNTY'S INTEREST. THIS SHOULD BE RESOLVED POSITIVELY . A LOT

OF ALLEGATIONS. >> CALLING FOR THE QUESTION, THAT'S ENOUGH GUYS. THANK YOU.

>> TAKE A VOTE COMMISSIONER . >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, WE ARE GOING TO VOTE . THANK YOU, WE APPRECIATE IT . THAT'S WHY WE ARE ALL HERE. WE ARE ALL IN A DIFFICULT POSITION AND WE WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING. I ASSURE YOU, EVERYBODY OUT THERE , THIS IS VERY UNUSUAL SITUATION. WE ARE TRYING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN AND DO THE RIGHT THING BY EVERYBODY. THAT

INCLUDES YOU, MR. GONZALEZ. >> CLERK KEEP TRACK OF THE MOTION. CAN YOU REPEAT THE

MOTION? >> THREE POINTS. COUNSEL . AND A CAP ON THE FEET. OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOUND NOT GUILTY , ANY RECOVERABLE FEES WILL BE REIMBURSED BY THE COUNTY.

>> THE FEES WOULD COME FROM WHO? THERE IS A BOND WITH THAT RECOVER THE FEES?

>> NO . >> COMPLEX. I WOULD LIKE TO GO FOR A SIMPLE SOLUTION IN ANSWER. WE GO WITH THE CURRENT

COUNSEL ALREADY HIRED. >> I WILL SECOND MR. GONZALEZ IS MOTION.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE . WE

HAVE ONE NO . YOU VOTED? HE WAS A AYE . YES . >> WITH A HIGH HAVE ANY INPUT

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ON WHO DEFENDS ME? >> THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY. WE WOULD ASK MR. GONZALEZ TO

SUBMIT THREE OR FOUR ATTORNEYS. I'M OPEN TO THAT . >> CAN CRISPY ON THAT ?

>> THAT ARE NOT ADVERSE TO THE COUNTY. >> IS THAT ALLOWED ? IS THAT

NOT? >> SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE . >> TALKING ABOUT CONFLICT OF INTEREST. WITH RESPECT TO WHAT MR. GAIL WAS TALKING ABOUT. WHO IS YOUR CLIENT AND NOT YOUR CLIENT. IT DIFFERENT THAN CONFLICT OF INTEREST. I ROUTINELY TURN DOWN REPRESENTATION FOR THE COUNTY, BECAUSE A BUSINESS CONFLICT. TOO MANY CASES WHERE SOMEONE SAID REPRESENT THIS PERSON IN SUING THIS PERSON. YOU GAVE GREATER ASSISTANCE TO THIS PERSON THEN YOU SHOULD'VE GIVEN TO THIS ONE. I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONERS ISSUES WITH WHY ARE WE HIRING SOMEONE THAT SUES THE COUNTY. WHY ARE WE PAYING HIM, IT LOOKS AWKWARD , EVEN IF IT'S NOT A LEGAL CONFLICT . AS ATTORNEYS, WE HAVE A RULE OF DISCIPLINARY PROCEDURE AND WE LOOK AT THOSE THINGS AND SAY DO YOU HAVE A LEGAL CONFLICT. IF YOU DO HAVE A LEGAL CONFLICT ABSENCE OF A WAIVER, YOU CAN'T TAKE THE CASE. ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE IS PRACTICAL CONFLICT . THAT'S WHAT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IS GETTING TO. PRACTICAL CONFLICT THAT PREVENTS HIM FROM VOTING TO RETAIN MR. GAIL IN THIS CASE. THAT'S A CONFLICT .

TO GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT PERSON. THIS COURT IS UNIFIED WE WANT TO HELP

COVER THE COST UP TO A CAP IS A WIN. >> I AGREE .

>> I WILL CHANGE MY VOTE TO MAKE IT A UNIFIED MESSAGE. AND YOU CAN BRING MR. GAIL AS ONE

OF YOUR OPTIONS. >> I WANT TO THANK THE COURT FOR BEING UNIFIED ON THAT. I THINK THE COUNTY HAS AN INTEREST IN THIS. ONLY BECAUSE YOU ARE DULY ELECTED . WE HAVE A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT AND SACRIFICE FOR YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY . TO GET ELECTED. I HAVEN'T BEEN ARRESTED. ANYBODY CAN COME IN. A CIVIL MATTER . IT'S ME UP THERE . I JUST WANT THE BEST DEFENSE I CAN GET. THE PERSON THAT I TRUST. I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD LAWYERS. UNFORTUNATELY, MAYBE SOMEONE HAS ISSUES WITH MY CHOICE. BECAUSE MAYBE HE SUED THE COUNTY OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. BUT I THINK THAT EACH ONE OF US HERE , IN MY SITUATION, YOU WOULD WANT SOMEONE WHO YOU CAN CONFIDE IN AND BELIEVE IN. THAT'S ALL I WOULD HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH. I WANT TO THANK YOU. I DO MEAN THAT. CONSIDERING EVERYTHING GOING ON OUT THERE. I WILL SUBMIT MY THREE NAMES. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I WANT CHRIS TO BE MY LAWYER. AT THE END OF THE DAY WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS. IF I HAVE TO GIVE YOU THE MONEY BACK , I WILL BE HAPPY TO. I'M HAPPY TO FIGHT. I WANT TO THANK YOU.

>> MARK , WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET YOUR REPRESENTATION. I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTOOD IT RIGHT . IF CHRIS GAYLE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY . WHOEVER YOU PICK , I'M SURE

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IT WILL BE POSITIVE. >> THANK YOU, MARK. >> I'M ASSUMING ITEM NUMBER

[5. Discuss and consider hiring outside counsel to represent District Attorney Mark Gonzalez in the removal action currently pending in Cause No. 2023DCV0244G, and related matters.]

FIVE CAN BE TABLED IT'S A DUPLICATE OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR. WE DON'T NEED TO ADDRESS THAT . WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE A MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

GOING BACK TO THE REGULAR AGENDA . ITEM NUMBER 18 . WE WILL LET THE COURT CLEAR OUT

A LITTLE BIT. >> ITEM FIVE, WHAT YOU DID AND HOW IT WAS ON THE AGENDA IS BETTER. FIVE IS TO HIRE OUTSIDE COUNSEL . YOU ALL APPROVED TO HIRE. THE WAY

[18. Discuss and consider a funding source for the installation of a metal roof and steel structure over the concrete ramp at the Calderon Building Clinic and other related matters.]

IT'S WRITTEN ON THEIR. >> ALL RIGHT . MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO ITEM 18. IT IS FOR: 23. WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO VOTE TO EXTEND. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER FUNDING SOURCE FOR THE INSTALLATION OF A METAL ROOF AND STILL STRUCTURE OVER THE CONCRETE RAMP AT THE CALDERON

BUILDING CLINIC AND OTHER RELATED MATTERS. >> 1115 WAIVERS ALSO ?

>> WAS AT COMING OUT OF YOUR FUND, COMMISSIONER? I'D LIKE TO PUT IN HALF OF THAT , IF YOU

DON'T MIND. >> I WILL HELP SPLIT THE COST . WE CAN SPLIT THAT DOWN THE

MIDDLE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MAREZ. AND A SECOND . DO WE NEED TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS ? NOT EVEN ON THEIR . WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, COMING OUT OF 1115 WAIVER MONEY 49,000. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED .

[19. Discuss and consider approval of 2022/2023 Amendment to Supplemental Pay Allocation to Dept 1325 as designated by County Attorney in accordance with Section 46.0031 of the Texas Government Code.]

UNANIMOUS. ITEM 19. TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF 2022 /2023 AMENDMENT TO SUPPLEMENTAL PAY ALLEGATION OF A DEPARTMENT 1325 AS DESIGNATED BY COUNTY ATTORNEY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS SECTION OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. ITEM 19 . 3A 19 .

>> 1325 ? >> NO IMPACT . >> RECEIVED $70,000 THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR PAY OUT . IT'S THEIR CHOICE WHO RECEIVES THE FUNDS. THIS IS AN AGREEMENT

BETWEEN HER AND HR HOW THE FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED . >> DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT? A MOTION IN A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED . ITEM NUMBER 20 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER -- WHAT ? YOU HAVE TO SHOW YOUR FACE . HE'S A AYE. 20. TO DISCUSS AND

[20. Discuss and consider next Commissioners Court meeting date, and related matters.]

CONSIDER NEXT COMMOTION COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING DATE AND RELATED MATTERS. THEY ARE ON THE AGENDA PACKET . EVERYTHING IS HERE. ANY CONFLICTS FOR ANYBODY. WHAT'S NOT ON HERE IS FIVE 19 STATE OF THE COUNTY. WE MIGHT ADD THAT ON HERE TO KEEP IT IN

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MIND. EVERYBODY GOOD, NO CHANGES. MOVING ON TO PUBLIC WORKS. ITEM C 1. DISCUSS AND

[1. Discuss and consider execution of an American Institute of Architects (AIA) Service contract with CLK Architects & Associates for the Nueces County Public Defender’s Office 6th Floor Renovations.]

CONSIDER EXECUTION OF AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF ARC ARCHITECTS.

>> THIS IS FOR THE ARCHITECT FACILITIES . TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THE ARCHITECTS , COMING OUT OF PUBLIC DEFENDERS . OTHER DISCUSSION ? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE . ANY OPPOSED SAME SIGN . GO AHEAD .

>> NUMBER 20.

>> I'D LIKE TO SEE IF I CAN GET

[2. Discuss and consider approval of Change Order No. 3 for the Nueces County Courthouse ADA Improvements and Upgrades Project.]

NUMBER TWO. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDER NUMBER THREE FOR THE

COUNTY COURTHOUSE IMPROVEMENT AND UPGRADE . >> RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDER NUMBER THREE. MONEY BEING USED OUT OF CONTINGENCY MONEY . 134 TO 69

. ADDITIONAL WORK STARTED FOR THE PROJECT . >> THEY HAVE THEIR BUDGET AND

NOW WE ARE DOING CONTINGENCY >> NO MAN . >> SOMETHING ADDITIONAL .

>> MONEY WILL TAKE OUT OF CONTINGENCY. HUNDRED AND 34,000. THIS IS FOR CARPET AND CHANGES TO DOORS . A LITTLE BIT DURING THIS CONSTRUCTION PROCESS .

>> THROUGHOUT THE COURTHOUSE? >> YES SIR . THROUGHOUT THE COURTHOUSE. THE DOLLAR CHANGE

ORDER ALLOCATED UNDER THE CONTRACT . >> ONLY 60,000 LEFT IN THE

CONTINGENCY FUND. >> YES MA'AM . BASED ON WHERE WE ARE PERCENTAGEWISE. 60,000

WILL BE ABLE TO FINISH THE PROJECTS. >> OKAY . A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE .

[1. Discuss and consider authorizing District Attorney’s office to increase their vehicle fleet size by two (2) additional units by allowing District Attorney to retain a 2017 Ford Interceptor and by accepting a 28th District Court award of a 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee.]

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS, APPRECIATE IT. >> MOTION PASSES. ITEM D 1.

TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO INCREASE THEIR VEHICLE FLEET SIZE BY TWO. ALLOWING DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO RETAIN 2017 FORD INTERCEPTOR AND BY ACCEPTING A COURT AWARD OF 2011 JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION ? NO COST TO THE COUNTY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE . ANY OPPOSED . MOTION

[2. Discuss and consider action to approve the execution of Agreement Amendment No. 1 for RFP No. 3217-22 Uniform Rentals, Floor Mats, Shop Towels, Linens, and Scrubs adding service to the Bishop County Building location.]

PASSES. ITEM D 2. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION TO APPROVE THE EXECUTION OF AGREEMENT FOR AMENDMENT ONE . UNIFORM RENTALS FLOOR MATS, SHOP TOWELS, LINENS AND SCRUBS.

>> SO MOVED. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE . MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY . ITEM D 3. TO DISCUSS AND

[3. Discuss and consider conditional selection of Grantworks, Inc. for RFQ No. 3228-23 Grant Administration & Project Management – Community Development Block Grant – Mitigation (CBDG-MIT).]

CONSIDER CONDITIONAL SELECTION OF GRANT WORKS FOR RFQ GRANT ADMINISTRATION AND PROJECT

MANAGEMENT. >> SO MOVED . >> MOTION AND A SECOND . ANY OTHER DISCUSSION . ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE . ANY OPPOSED . MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY .

[5. Discuss and consider award and execution of a contract with Deere & Company via Tellus Equipment Solutions (BuyBoard Contract No. #611-20) for the purchase of six (6) new tractor mowers with rotary cutters (IFB No. 3212-B) for Public Works.]

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THE FIVE . DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AWARD AND EXECUTION OF CONTRACT FOR TRACTORS MOWERS

WITH ROTARY CUTTERS . >> THIS IS THE PUBLIC WORKS ITEM WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THROUGH FOR A YEAR. WE HAVE GONE AFTER THIS THREE DIFFERENT TIMES. THE COUNTY USED THE ALTERNATE PROCEDURE DIVIDED BY THE COURT . USE THOSE PROCEDURES WITH COMPETITIVE QUOTES. WE HEARD THE QUOTE FOR ROTARY CUTTER MOWERS. THEY PROVIDED IN FAVOR OF F 34 AND

WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL. WE COORDINATED ON THAT . >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE . ANY OPPOSED. SORRY RENT, A LITTLE

BEHIND, I'M TALKING OVER YOU, APOLOGIZE. >> IT'S ALL RIGHT . IT PASSED

UNANIMOUS, SORRY . >> CAN I TAKE A QUICK MINUTE AND SAY THANK YOU TO JENNY AND HER STAFF, THEY WORK WITH US REVIEWING THE CONTRACT . GENTLEMAN IN HER OFFICE. THANKS, BECAUSE OF THEM DOING THE HARD WORK , I'M MAKING IT

LOOK EASY BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S A LOT OF WORK. >> AUTUMN E . AUDITOR , AND

[2. Approve Capital Project Budget Change Order No. 120.]

NUMBER TWO. APPROVE CAP PROJECT BUDGET CHANGE ORDER 120.

>> OBLIGATIONS WE ARE SHOWING HERE TO BE MOVED FOR. 2015 SEAL . MOVING FROM THE COMMUNITY CENTER THE SAME AMOUNT FOR 2016 SEALS. WE WILL NEED MONEY FOR UPGRADES.

AND THE SUBDIVISION WAS DONE WE ARE MOVING BACK TO -- A ALLOCATED FUND. WE HAVE MONEY GOING TO A OBSERVATION DECK AND A GENERATOR . THAT'S COMING OUT OF THESE FUNDS. THE LARGEST ONE IS THE BOTTOM ONE . WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY CLERK ON ELECTION EQUIPMENT REQUIREMENT. TALKING WITH HER. THIS IS THE EQUIPMENT.

REQUESTING $1.1 MILLION BE MOVED FROM THE FUND. WE BELIEVE THESE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE. CHANGE ORDER 120 FOR YOUR ACCEPTANCE AND APPROVAL. I WILL ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE . >> ANY QUESTIONS ANYONE? >> BISHOP IS COMING FROM WHERE

? >> COMING FROM THE BUILDING MOVING TO THE BISHOP BUILDING .

>> A.D.A. EQUIPMENT . WE GET THE REQUESTS. >> COMMISSIONER, THAT PROJECT IS CLOSED AND THOSE BALANCES WERE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE BISHOP CENTER.

>> OR THE LIBRARY? >> CD CENTER. >> CD CENTER .

>> YES SIR . >> THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE A MOTION . DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE . ANY

[3. Approve Budget Change Order No. 11 for Fiscal Year 2022-2023.]

OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER THREE . APPROVE CAPITAL BUDGET OR APPROVED BUDGET CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 11 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022- 2023.

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>> SOME REQUESTS . REPORT FROM STAFF FOR TEMPORARY PERIOD OF TIME. COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY FEES COVER THIS. SMALL REQUIREMENT FOR EQUIPMENT REPAIRS THAT THEY DID NOT FORESEE. TO LARGEST ONES ARE AT THE BOTTOM. ONE FOR BRIDGE AND ONE FOR UP ARC. WE WORKED WITH ONE HYDROCARBON . WE HAD A REPORT FOR DISCOVERY OF HYDROCARBON . AND ONE IN THE PARK, EXPENSES. THE ONE FOR THE BRIDGE FUND . MOST OF FUNDS COME FROM GENERAL FUND TRANSFERRING MONEY . AT ONE POINT IN TIME, A YEAR OR SO AGO, A LARGE REIMBURSEMENT FROM TRANSPORTATION . WE THE PURCHASED IT FOR THE AMOUNT OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

SIGNIFICANT PURCHASE. MAKING SURE THIS IS A APPROVED AGREEMENT FOR THE COURT.

NORMALLY PURCHASE FOR THE FUTURE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS WHAT THE COURT AGREES.

IN THE REPORT , ON MY LEFT. THIS IS FUNDS . WHEN WE HAD I HAVE AND 69 IN THE HARBOR BRIDGE, WE WERE REQUIRED TO BUY PART OF THE FUNDS FOR THE STATE. THEY FOUND OUT THEY DIDN'T NEED THE RIGHT AWAY THAT WE PROVIDED THEM AND THEY PROVIDED A REFUND. THIS IS THE GENERAL FUND SO STILL RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COMMISSIONERS. I WANT TO MAKE

SURE YOU AGREE WITH THIS. >> ALL THE FUNDS THERE ? >> $300,000 IN THE FUND. THERE

SIGNIFICANT FUNDS . >> 300,000. >> AT LEAST IN THIS FUND FOR

THE PURPOSE OF RIGHT AWAY WHICH IS THE MAIN PURPOSE. >> SPECIFIC RIGHT-OF-WAY .

>> NORMALLY WE SUBMIT FUNDS TO RECOVER FOR THE STATE . THE INTERCHANGE OR RIGHT-OF-WAY TO EXPAND SOME PORTION THEY REQUIRE RIGHT-OF-WAY PURCHASES AND THEY REQUIRE THAT OF THE

COUNTY AND THE CITY. >> WE DID PURCHASE IT RIGHT AWAY .

>> WE DID AND WHEN THEY GOT THROUGH WITH THE DESIGN OF THE FREEWAY , THEY FOUND OUT THEY

DIDN'T NEED THE FUNDS WE GAVE THEM. >> ONE 93,000.

>> IN DISCOVERY OF HYDROCARBON. >> IS ONE HERE CAN WE GET HIM?

FUNDS. >> THE RIGHT OF WAY . >> THIS IS NOT A RIGHT-OF-WAY

THIS IS A REPORT. RESPONSE TO THE HYDROCARBON . >> WILL YOU USE IT.

>> THE DISCUSSION IS ANOTHER CAUSEWAY , WE COULD BE REQUIRED TO BUY A RIGHT-OF-WAY.

>> THE STATE USING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. >> YES.

>> IN A GENERAL ACCOUNT ? >> IT'S IN A 1 TO 3 THAT'S WHERE THE FUNDS ARE SITTING.

CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 11. >> HERE IS THIS PERSON IF YOU WANT TO ASK HIM. JUAN. WHAT IS

THE MONEY, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS FOR. >> WE GOT A LETTER A FEW MONTHS AGO IN REGARDS TO THERE IS POSSIBLE LEAKS IN THE AREA OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS HIRE AN ENGINEER

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>> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS WHAT THE PERMIT IS FOR AND THE RIGHT AWAY OF THE COUNTY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE NORMAL USE FOR THE PURPOSES . WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COMMISSION COURT

AGREES WITH THE FUNDS. >> GIVE US A TIMELINE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A TIMELINE IN RESPONSE TO THEM . AND THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL BRING THE CONTRACT.

>> 120 DAYS. WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT . WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO THEM. WE ARE GOOD . AS LONG

AS WE ARE COMMUNICATING . >> A STANDARD THAT WE TRANSFER THE MONEY BEFORE HE GOES OUT

FOR THE CONTRACT ? >> THE FUNDS ARE IN WHAT WE CALL PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

NORMAL AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE ON RIGHT-OF-WAY . THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT CATEGORY FOR

WHAT HE'S DOING WITH PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. >> HE STILL HAS TO COME BACK

AND ASK. OKAY . >> GONZALEZ. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, IN FAVOR SAY AYE . ANY OPPOSED SAME SIGN . MOVING TO EXECUTIVE ITEMS. I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD, THANK YOU.

[C. Discuss, consider and take action on hiring outside counsel to represent Nueces County in Case No. 2022-CV-61337-4, Maria Krauskopf, et al. v. Nueces County, Texas et al.; and related matters.]

EXECUTIVE ITEM NUMBER C. TAKE OUTSIDE ACTION OF HIRING COUNSEL . THIS PERSON VERSUS

NUECES COUNTY AND RELATED MATTERS. I CAN DO THIS. >> COURT TO MOVE AND HIRE .

THE LAST THING. >> WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE . ANY OPPOSED . SORRY

[D. Discuss, consider and take action on hiring outside counsel to represent Nueces County in Case No. 2:21-cv-00235, Margaret Mary Smith v. Nueces County, Texas et al; In the Southern District of Texas, Corpus Christi Division; and related matters]

. MOTION PASSES . ITEM D. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER TAKING OUTSIDE ACTION HIRING COUNSEL TO REPRESENT THE NUECES COUNTY MARGARET MARY SMITH VERSUS NUECES COUNTY. CORPUS CHRISTI

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RESPOND AYE . ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION

[ Adjournment in Memory (upon request)]

PASSES . DO WE HAVE ANY ADJOURNMENT IN MEMORY ? GO AHEAD .

>> I DO . >> ALL THREE. >> NO ACTION . DID YOU HAVE

A ADJOURNMENT IN MEMORY? GO AHEAD. >> INFORMED YESTERDAY CARLOS PENA, FORMER CHAIRMAN IN DISTRICT TWO, PASSED AWAY . HE WAS A GREAT PARTNER OF MIND . SERVED FOR YEARS ON THE BOARD FOR MANY YEARS. BEFORE THAT HE WAS A POLICE CHIEF FOR THE CITY . HE SPENT HIS CAREER THERE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT . HIS PRESENCE WAS LARGE AND WIDE . IT'S A PERSONAL LOSS. WE KNEW HIM AND HIS FAMILY VERY WELL . BATTLING AN ILLNESS

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FOR QUITE SOME TIME. UNFORTUNATELY IT CAUGHT UP WITH HIM. THIS IS A DIFFICULT TIME. WE WANT TO'S PORT HIM AND HIS MEMORY. I KNOW WE HAD A PROCLAMATION .

] . >> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO SO .

>> I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT I WILL GET WITH YOUR OFFICE. YOU HAVE ALREADY . COMMISSIONER, YOU HAVE A ADJOURNMENT IN MEMORY. THE FIRST ONE WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL. PASSED AWAY APRIL FIFTH . THREE DAUGHTERS, REMEMBER STRONG CHRISTIAN FAITH AND THE EXAMPLE. MAXINE IS THE DAUGHTER . SHE IS QUITE A TRAILBLAZER. IN 1941 SHE HAD GOTTEN HER TO PILOTS LICENSE. SHE JOINED THE WASS . WHEN THEY WERE DEACTIVATED IN 1944, SHE HAD A JOB IN TEXAS WHERE SHE MET HER HUSBAND. THEY RAISED THREE LOVELY DAUGHTERS. SHE WAS ACTIVE IN CIVIL LIFE . SHE WAS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS . DETAILS IN HER OBITUARY WILL GO ON AND ON . MAXINE ]. SHE IS SURVIVED BY MANY LOVING FAMILY MEMBERS. A TRAILBLAZER OF EPIC PROPORTIONS. SHE WAS 102 . AN AMAZING WOMAN . CERTAINLY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY ON THE LOSS OF MAXINE. ALSO, YOU MAY HAVE KNOWN FRANK SMITH WHO PASSED AWAY AT 71 AFTER A SHORT ORDER. PRECEDED BY HIS FATHER. THEY WERE INVOLVED IN CHANNEL 6 FOR MANY YEARS. HE WAS QUITE THE GUY. HE WAS POPPA FRANK 29 GRANDCHILDREN. ANOTHER PERSON EXTREMELY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY . HANDS-ON . SELLING TURKEY LEGS FOR THE LIONS CLUB.

COOKING SPAGHETTI DINNER THE NIGHT BEFORE HE DIED. GROWING UP IN A FAMILY BROADCASTING BUSINESS. HE STARTED AT THE BOTTOM . HE RAN ERRANDS FOR HIS FATHER. HE WAS CAMERAMAN AND REPORTER . JUNIOR WAS A STALWART IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE PASS ON CONDOLENCES FOR THE

EARLY PASSING OF HIM . >> DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ . OUR CONDOLENCES TO THESE FAMILIES. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN . A MOTION, AND A SECOND. AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY YAY .

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