[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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. >> ALREADIED WE COMMIT THIS MEETING TO YOU INTO YOUR HANDS RIGHT NOW, LORD JESUS.
MULTIPLE THINGS ARE BEING DISCUSSED AND I PRAY THAT YOU WILL JUST DWELL HERE AND WE WILL MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS FOR OUR CITY, LORD, AND THAT YOU WILL JUST GO BEFORE US.
I PRAY YOU CONTINUE TO HAVE YOUR HAND UPON THE JUDGE AND THE COMMISSIONERS. I PRAY THAT YOU WILL GUIDE THEM IN EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO AND SO, LORD, WE HAND THIS MEETING OVER TO YOU RIGHT NOW AND IT'S IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY AND EVERYBODY SAID, AMEN.
I WOULD CALL IT MAYBE 83:34 WHEN WE STARTED.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL MAKE NOTE THAT WE ARE IN THE THIRD FLOOR -- THANK YOU -- OF COMMISSIONERS -- OF THE NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE WHICH IS THE COMMISSION AREA COURTROOM.
THIS NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING HAS THE NEED TO MAKE SURE A QUARRY UM IS ESTABLISHED SO I WILL SAY THAT COMMISSIONER CHESSNY IS CHEER AND I BET WE'LL SEE THE OTHERS HERE SHORTLY.
BUT FOR THE MEANTIME AS THE PRESIDING OFFICER I CERTIFY THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT AND I DON'T KNOW IF I SAID THIS BUT THE DATE IS OCTOBER 19TH, 2022. NUECES.
AT THIS TIME I'LL ASK IF THERE ARE ANY CONFLICT OF INTERESTS WITH ITEMS AT THIS AGENDA. MEMBERS WILL REFRAIN FROM VOTING OR DISCUSSIONS ON SUCH ITEMS AND OF COURSE IF THERE IS A CONFLICT DISCOVEREDED LATER, IN THE MEETING, THEN THEY CAN DISCLOSE
[E. SAFETY BRIEFING]
AT THAT TIME. I'LL LOOK TO REBECCA NOW FOR AN IMPORTANT SAFETY BRIEFING AND ASK IF YOU TO PLEASE GIVE HERYOUR ATTENTION. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, ANDATTENDEES. TODAY OUR SAFETY BRIEFING IS HELD IN THE NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURTROOM.
THE RESTROOMS ARE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE THIRD FLOOR ATRIUM. IN THE EVENT OF A CARDIAC EMERGENCY AN AED IS ON THE RIGHT WALL NEXT TO THE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE. PARTICIPANTS FOR TODAY RESPONSIBLE FOR DIALLING 91 # 1 WILL BE CONNIE.
IN TINT OF AN EVACUATION OUR EH DEPRESS ROUTE IS SLOWLY DOWN THE ATRIUM STAIRS. ASSEMBLE IN THE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET. IT IS IMPORTANT TO STAY TOGETHER. SHOULD THERE BE A NEED TO SHELTER IN PLACE DEPENDING UPON THE SEVERITY OF THE SHELTER IN PLACE THE COURTROOM DOUBLE DOORS WILL BE SECURED AND REMAIN SECURE UNTIL GIVEN FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE NUECES COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.
I WANT TO TELL MY MOTHER HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
>> SO NOTICED IS A PUBLIC HEARING THAT STARTS AT 9:00 AND
[H. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]
AT K WE WILL PIVOT TO THAT HEARING WHAT I'LL MOVE RIGHT NOW TO PUBLIC COMMENT. I HAVE THREE FOLKS SIGNED UP AND WILL CALL UPON THEM NOW AND ASK CONNIE TO BE THOUGHTFUL AND SEEIF THERE'S ANYBODY ONLINE. >>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS AND
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JUNG. I'M MARSHALL DAVIDSON OF JM DAVIDSON CONSTRUCTION. WE RECREPTLY FINISHED THE DELL APPLICATION OF BOB HALL PIER AND AS A RESULT OF COMPLETING THAT PROJECT I PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR EACH ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE JUDGE AS A TOKEN FROM THE PROJECT.IT IS NOT VERY GLAMOUROUS BUT MEANS A LOT TO US AND IT SHOULD MEAN A LOT TO YOU GUYS MORE THAN JUST A REGULAR OLD PIECE OF BROKEN CONCRETE. THAT'S FOR YOU ALL TO KEEP AS LONG AS YOU SHALL LIVE. THANK YOU.
>> WHEN YOU PAY A COUPLE MILLION BUCKS YOU SHOULD GET A ROCK.
>> DAMN RIGHT. >> THAT'S A VERY NICE GESTURE
AND THAT WAS REALLY NICE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THAT'S REALLY NICE >> THANK YOU.
AND THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR PUTTING YOUR TRUST IN US TO DO IS JOB AND I'M GLAD IT WENT WELL.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THAT'S COOL
>> AND IF YOU THINK WE'RE BEING RESERVED LOOK AT OUR BODY
LANGUAGE. >> THAT GOES ACROSS 77 AND ON DOWN BY THE RAILROAD TRACKS IF WE COULD GET MAYBE SOME OF THAT DUG OUT AND LEVELLED TO WHERE IT WOULD TAKE SOME OF THE DRAINAGE OFF OF VALLEY VIEW SUBDIVISION AND THE NEW SUBDIVISION BEING BUILT IN THAT AREA AGAIN ALREADY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN FLOODED WITH THE LAST RAIN WE HAD. I DO APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU
THANK YOU, SIR. WE'LL NOW -- I'LL JUST CHECK TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY ONLINE. ONCE MORE IT'S TIME TO RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU WISH TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL IN OUR LAST PUBLIC COMMENT REGISTRANT HERE ON THE SIGN UP SHEET. THIS IS OUR VETERAN SERVICE
OFFICER. >> GOOD MORNING, JUNG AND COMMISSIONERS. I'M HERE TO BRING YOU GOOD NEWS.
WE JUST GOT WORD AND I WANTED TO MENTION THAT THE COASTAL MEN'S STATE VETERANS CEMETERY IS TRACKING TO EXHAUST ALL OF OUR PLOTS IN JUST OVER GO YEARS. OUR NUECES COUNTY STAFF AND THE VETERANS LAND BOARD IDENTIFIED THIS AND PUT IN FOR A GRANT THAT WAS AWARDED BY THE NATIONAL CEMETERY ADMINISTRATION FOR $5 MILLION TO EXPAND THE CEMETERY.
WE WILL HAVE 3,130 PREPLACED CRYPTS.
THIS SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS AT LEAST.
ON TOP OF THAT THE VETERANS LAND BOARD HAS ANNOUNCED THEY WILL BE PROVIDING AN ADDITIONAL $500,000 IN FUNDING FOR EVERYTHING THE VA
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DID NOT COVER WHICH INCLUDES PAVEMENT AND ROADWAY WIDENING, TEN INCH IRRIGATION LINE REPAIRS.WE'RE PLACING THE SPACE FORCE FLAG OUT THERE ARUNNING THE EMBLEM, THE SEAL. AND PERIMETER FENCING AND AUTOMATIC GATES FOR THE CEMETERY.
SO WE WILL BE MEETING NOVEMBER 14TH OVER AT THE VETERANS CEMETERY TO START THIS PROJECT AND I WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT GOOD NEWS FOR YOU. 5.5 MILLION COMING TO THE COASTAL STATE VETERANS MENS CEMETERY.
THAT IS ALL I HAVE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO GIVEN THAT WE STILL HAVE A FEW MORE
[1. In recognition of Doctor Tim Geffert.]
MINUTES BEFORE 9:00 A.M. IS HOUSEKEEPING.IT'S MY -- I WANT TO CHECK WITH COMM COMMI COMMI COMMISSIONER MODEST. I WOULD LIKE TO DID.
>> WE'LL GO AHEAD AND READ IT. WONDERFUL.
I'LL ASK BELINDATO RECOGNIZE DR. TIM GEFFERT AND THIS WILL BE PRESENTED TO HIM AT A LATER DATE.
>> OCTOBER 26, 2022, IS DR. TIM GEFFERT DAY.
HIS WIFE BOBBY AT HIS SIDE SERVED ACE HIS DENTAL ASSISTANT, OFFICE MANAGER AND ACCOUNT MANAGER AND THEY GREW HIS PRACTICE IN NUECES NOT ONCE THROUGH ADVERTISEMENT.
WHEREAS HE REMAINED COMMITTED TO THIS COMMUNITY AND PROVIDED SERVICES AT NO COST TO THOSE IN NEED WHEREAS A YOUNG DENTIST HE WORKED WITH THE CATHOLIC CHARITIES TO PROVIDE DENTAL CARE FOR VIETNAM REFUGEES AND TO THIS DAY OVER 40 YEARS LATER STILL PROVIDES SERVICES TO ONE OF THOSE REFUGEES.
HE REGULARLY VOLUNTEERS TIME TO PROVIDE DENTAL SERVICES FOR THE HOMELESS WHERE HE GENEROUSLY PROVIDED SERVICES TO NUECES COUNTY WITH A COUNTY CLINIC AND WHEREAS HE IS NOW RETIRING AFTER 41 YEARS OF PRACTICE HIS LAST DAY OF PRACTICE BEING OCTOBER 26TH, 2022. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF NUECES COUNTY THAT THE 26TH DAY OF OCTOBER, 2022 IS PROCLAIMED DR. TIM GEFFERT DAY IN NUECES COUNTY, TEXAS AND CONGRATULATES HIM ON HIS OUTSTANDING DENTAL CAREER AND RECOGNIZES HIS MANY ACCOMPLISHMENTS TO OUR COMMUNITY. SO MANY UNSUNG HEROS I'M GLAD WE
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WERE ABLE TO DO HIS RECOGNITION TODAY.[2. In recognition of October 2022 as "Breast Cancer Awareness Month" and the Making Strides Against Breast Cancer Walk on October 29, 2022.]
>> AND NOW WE'LL MOVE TO IN RECOGNITION ITEM NUMBER TWO, RECOGNITION OF OCTOBER 2022 AS BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH AND THE ENDEAVOR THAT WE ALL WANT SO MUCH IS TO FIND A CURE.
MAKING STRIDES AGAINST BREAST CANCER WALK WILL TAKE PLACE OCTOBER 29TH, 2022, AND IF YOU'LL DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO BELINDA, SHE ALSO HAS A RECOG
RECOGNITION. >> UNITING NEARLY 300 COMMUNITIES WITH A SHARED DETERMINATION TO FINISH THE FIGHT AGAINST BREAST CANCER. AND WHEREAS FUNDS RAISED TO THE MAKING STRIDES AGAINST BREAST CANCER OF CORPUS CHRISTIE TO ENABLE -- GROUND BREAKING BREAST CANCER RESEARCH PROVIDING FREE COMPREHENSIVE INFORMATION AND SUPPORT TO THOSE TOUCHED BY BREAST CANCER AND HELPING PEOPLE REDUCE THEIR BREAST CANCER RISK AND FIND IT EARLY WHEN IT'S MOST TREATABLE WHEREAS PARTICIPANTS OF THE MAKING STRIDES AGAINST BREAST CANCER CORPUS CHRISTI AND RAISE FUNDS TO END BREAST CANCER ONCE AND FOR ALL.
NOW BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF NUECES COUNTY TEXAS HEREBY PROCLAIMS OCTOBER, 2022 AS BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH IN OCTOBER 29TH IN MAKING STRIDES AGAINST BREAST CANCER DAY IN NUECES COUNTY AND URGES ALL CITIZENS TO HELP FINISH THE FIGHT AGAINST BREAST CANCER BY PARTICIPATING IN THE MAKING STRIDES AGAINST BREAST CANCER OF CORPUS CHRISTIES EVENT AT TEXAS A&M ON SATURDAY OCTOBER 29TH.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.
>> AND I'LL CALL FOR DISCUSSION AND RECOGNIZE JILL WHO USEDED TO BE WITH NUECES COUNTY AND IS NOW DOING GREAT JOSHING AT THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY. WELCOME BACK HOME.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND FOR THE RECORD, JILL, I AM WITH THE AMERICAN CANCER TOTE AND AS A FORMER COUNTY EMPLOYEE, I KNOW THAT I DON'T HAVE TO TELL THIS COURT JUST HOW MUCH YOUR SUPPORT AND RECOGNITION MEANS TO YOUR OUTSIDE AGENCY SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. AS BELINDA -- YOUR CONSTITUENTS, JUST EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY KAY FOR THOSE NOT ONLY TOUCHED BY CANCER BUT THEIR LOVED ONES. SO THIS YEAR -- WOMEN AND MEN WILL RECEIVE A NEW BREAST CANCER DIAGNOSIS EVEN IT IS BECAUSE OF THEM AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT WE ARE SO GRATEFUL TO THE MAKING STRIDES AGAINST BREAST CANCER WALKERS, DONORS, SPONSORS, AND VOLUME TEARS WHO ARE RAISING MONEY, PROMOTING AWARENESS AND CELEBRATING THE LIVES OF OUR BREAST CANCER SURVIVORS.
WE'RE ALSO GRATEFUL FOR THE JUDGE AND HER THOUSAND DOLLARS DONATION TO THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY TO HELP US IN OUR FIGHT TO END CANCER AS WE KNOW IT FOR EVERYONE.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR TODAY'S PROCLAMATION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
AND WE HOPE TO SEE YOU OUT AT MAKING STRIDES ON OCTOBER 29TH.
THANK YOU STAY THANK YOU, JILL. >> WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT? IT'S BECOME SUCH A THING THAT YOU REALLY CAN'T ESCAPE SOMEBODY IN YOUR FAMILY ON YOUR BLOCK, SOMEBODY YOU WORK WITH, SOMEBODY YOU KNOW, MALE OR FEMALE MAINLY FEMALES. WHO HAVE A BREAST CANCER DIAGNOSIS. AND OF COURSE AS ALWAYS, THE WAY TO BEAT IT IS EARLY DETECTION. SO THIS IS THE MONTH WHERE WE ASK YOU TO GO PINK FOR BOTH MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE AFFLICTED AND REALLY RAISE THE HEIGHT, RAISE THAT BARTON HEIGHT OF AWARENESS.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO AND WITH THAT, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION HEARING NONE COME OP, GUYS FOR THE GIRLS?
>> ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AND NOW WE WILL -- I KNOW I'M WATCHING THE CLOCK HERE BUT
[3. In support of immediate funding for State Government Mandated Services as set out by the County Judges and Commissioners Association of Texas, Executive Board's request to the Texas Legislative Budget Board.]
WE'LL TRY TO GET MAYBE ONE MORE IN.IT'S A TABLE OF ITEM NUMBER THREE ECONOMIESER CHESNEY YOU
NUMBER THREE >> OKAY. THANK YOU.
>> AND ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE.
[1. In recognition of Maria Ortega's 26 years of service to Nueces County.]
>> OKAY. WE ALSO HAVE SOME RECOGNITIONS.
I'LL TRY TO GET ONE MORE IN AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO THAT
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HEARING. MAYBE WE CAN DO BOTH.IF WE'RE SWIFT BUT I DON'T WANT TO BOTH OF THEM ARE IMPORTANT AND I DON'T WANT TO GLOSS OVER THEM.
THE FIRST IS THE RECOGNITION OF AN INCREDIBLE EMPLOYEE WHO HAS GIVEN 26 YEARS OF SERVICE TO NUECES COUNTY.
SHE COMES FROM THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE.
HER NAME IS MARIA ORTEGA. I WANTED TO SEE IS ANNE HERE WITH US? NO.
OK OKAY. I WANT TO READ THIS PLEASE BEAUTIFUL CERTIFICATE AND WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE DISCUSSION IF THAT'S OKAY AND NOT TOO EMBARRASSING.
WE HEREBY EXPRESS OUR SINCERE APPRECIATION TO MARIA, CHRISTINA ORTEGA. IT'S SIGNED OFFICIALLY ON HALLOWEEN. IT'S NOT A SPOOKY DATE.
IT'S SIGNED BY MYSELF AS THE COUNTY JUDGE AND ALL THE COMMISSIONERS. IT IS REALLY MILLION TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE GROWN -- SOMETHING TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE GROWN UP WITH ONE ENTITY AND IT'S ALWAYS VERY SPECIAL WHEN I SEE THIS.
IT'S A BOX AND IT'S ALWAYS INDICATIVE THAT SOMETHING SPECIAL IS HAPPENING HERE. AND IF YOU WOULD ALLOW ME, I WANT TO TELL YOU IT IS A TRICK. IT'S NOT AN ROLEX BUT IT LOOKS JUST LIKE ONE. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL WATCH AND IS A TOKEN AND SYMBOL OF OUR APPRECIATION FOR SERVICE.
AND FOR LOVE OF SERVICE. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO WORK SOMEWHERE FOR 26 YEARS. AND TODAY IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO SAY SIMPLY WITH SO MUCH GRATITUDE NOR A JOB WELL DONE COULD WE PLEASE RECOGNIZE I DON'T KNOW IF WE DO THIS BY MOTION OR NOT BUT I'LL DO IT SO THAT YOU HEAR IT WELL.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND. AND I'LL CALL FOR ANYMORE DISCUSSION. COWORKERS, FAMILY MEMBERS, WOULD YOU ALL STAND OR AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, SHOW YOUR -- THERE WE ARE BACK THERE. SHOW SOME APPRECIATION THERE.
AND ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE.
I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL WATCH TO PRESENT AND A CERTIFICATE AND WOULD YOU MIND COMING FORWARD AND ALLOW US THE HONOR OF TAKING A PHOTO WITH YOU AND, AGAIN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUT FOMENT TO MAKE A COMMENT ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO BACK TO THAT MICROPHONE SO THAT ALL THOSE ONLINE WHO ARE WISHING YOU WELL WILL HEAR YOU.
>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE UP HERE. IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD BUT A HAPPY ROAD. IT'S BEEN A GREAT PASSION OF MINE TO WORK FOR THE COUNTY AND I'VE ALWAYS HAD GREAT LEADERS INCLUDING YOURSELF, MS. BARBARA, AND I HAVE LOVED WORKING HERE.
IT'S JUST WONDERFUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> YOU'RE SO YOUNG WE'RE WISHING YOU THE BEST SECOND LIFE WHATEVER THAT IS FOR YOU, CAREER, SECOND CAREER.
>> GRAND KIDS. >> GRAND KIDS IS A SECOND
>> AND TAKING CARE OF MY PARENTS.
>> A NOBLE CAUSE AND A BEAUTIFUL ONE TO BOOT.
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FFRJTS YOU'LL INDULGE ME IN A STRANGE WAY J2 GOES ALONG BEAUTIFULLY WITH OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND IT'S JUST NOT QUITE 9:00 SO I'M GOING TO GO TO THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND RECOMMENDKNICKS -- >> I THINK I WANT TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE HEARING BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE WHILE.
[F. PUBLIC HEARINGS: The Nueces County Commissioners Court will conduct public hearings on the following: 1. pursuant to Section 251.013 of the Texas Transportation Code, changing the name of County Road 18 (from the intersection of County Road 43 eastward to the dead end) to Betty Jean Longoria Road, in Nueces County, Texas 2. pursuant to Section 251.013 of the Texas Transportation Code, changing the name of County Road 43 (from the intersections of FM 2444 southward to County Road 18) to Chuck Cazalas Boulevard, in Nueces County, Texas CLOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND RECONVENE REGULAR MEETING]
>>> IF WE COULD ADVANCE THE ITEM.
>> 14 AND 15 SHALL BE ADVANCED. YOU'RE RIGHT.
DO YOU WANT TO DO ONE AT A TIME? >> JUDGE, IT WAS AN HONOR TODAY TO ATHORACIC BOTH OF THESE RESOLUTIONS AND I KNOW THE COURT SUPPORTED THIS UNANIMOUSLY WITHOUT PAUSE FOR BOTH OF THE FOLKS TODAY THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING.
BETTY JEAN LONGORIA IS A GREAT PERSON.
I'VE KNOWN HER I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU HOW LONG.
HER BROTHER AND MY FATHER WORKED TOGETHER FOR MANY MANY YEARS SO I'VE PROBABLY KNOWN HER SINCE I WAS BORN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG I'VE KNOWN BETTY JEAN LONGORIA.
I NEVER DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE WITH HER ON THE CITY COUNCIL BUT HER WORK THERE WAS LEGENDARY AS WELL.
I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE WHEN WE HAD TO DO THIS AND THERE'S A REASON WE'RE DOING THIS.
WE'RE NOT JUST CHANGING COUNTY ROADS SO THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE, THE CITY IS GOING TO ANNEX THESE ROADS FOR THEIR USE
AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. >> CORPUS CHRISTI.
I THOUGHT -- ON THIS ONE BETTY JEAN HAS BEEN A LONG TIME FRIEND
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AND IT'S AN HONOR TO BE PART OF THIS TODAY.>> THANK YOU. AND OF COURSE I KNOW THAT I WHOLEHEARTEDLY CONCUR AND COMMISSIONERS I'M CERTAIN THAT YOU DO AS WELL. WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE I PROCEED? OKAY. AGAIN, PUBLIC HEARING, WE'RE ALSO HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU, OUR RESIDENTS AND THOSE OF YOU ONLINE IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING WE INVITE YOU TO DO SO. ALL RIGHT.
I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE DISCUSSION OF ITEM NUMBER F2.
IT'S ALSO PURSUANT TO THE SAME STATUTE WHICH IS 251013, THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE AND THIS ONE WOULD CHANGE THE NAME OF COUNTY ROAD 43 FROM THE INTERSECTION OF FM 2444 SOUTHWARD TO COUNTY ROAD 18 TO CHUCK CAZALAS BOULEVARD IN NUECES COUNTY, TEXAS. I ALSO WOULD YIELD TO
COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. >> I HAVEN'T KNOWN CHUCK SINCE I WAS BORN BUT I HAVE KNOWN CHUCK AND HIS FAMILY FOR MANY MANY YEARS. HE WAS AN OUTSTANDING PUBLIC SERVANT FOR MANY YEARS HERE IN NUECES COUNTY.
THEY WERE NOT JUST ELECTED OFFICIALS AND CHUCK HAS DONE SO MUCH FOR THIS COMMUNITY BEFORE HIS ELECTION, DURING HIS ELECTION AND AFTER. IT'S AN HONOR SIT A SEAT ONCE OCCUPIED BY CHUCK CAZALAS. I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY APPROPRIATE TO RENAME THESE ROADS IN MY PRECINCT TO AUTHOR THIS RESOLUTION AND AGAIN APPRECIATE THE COURT UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTING THIS WITHOUT PAUSE AND I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT HOW MUCH CHUCK DID ESPECIALLY FOR THAT AREA SO I THINK IT'S REALLY APPROPRIATE THAT WE'RE DOING IT FOR CHUCK IN AN AREA THAT HE USED TO REPRESENT. HE WAS PRECINCT FOUR COMMISSIONER FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT HE DID AND WHEN WE GET TO ITEMS 14 AND 15 WE ASK THE COURT TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT AND I KNOW CHUCK AND HIS WIFE ARE HERE TODAY AND I'M SURE WILL SPEAK EITHER AT THIS POINT OR ON THE AGENDA ITEMS. AS I RELAYED IT, I RELAY TO CHUCH ALSO I ASK THAT WE HAVE A FUN DEAL BECAUSE THEIR ROADS ARE GOING TO INTERSECTION AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW YOU KNOW CHUCH AND BETTY JEAN WORKED TOGETHER FOR MANY YEARS SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A COOLON SITE THING THAT WE WOULD PUT THEM UP AND INVITE THEIR FAMILIES MIDDLE OF NOVEMBER WEATHER PERMITTING AND GET THEIR FAMILIES OUT THERE AND OFF COURT OUT THERE AND STAFF AND HAVE A NEAT DEAL RIGHT THERE WHERE THEIR ROADS WILL INTERSECT IN THAT AREA OF THE COUNTY.
THAT'S ALL I HAD, JUDGE. >> SO MOVED.
>> THANK YOU. SO THIS IS JUST A PUBLIC HEARING -- HOLD YOUR EMOTION HERE BUT ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TODAY WISH TO DESIRE TO MAKE COMMENT AS I SAID AS ACTUALLY COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THESE ROADS WILL BE ANNEXED BY THE CITY AND IT SYMBOLIZES SOMETHING GREAT, GROWTH. GROWTH IS COOED GOOD.
IT MEANS WE HAVE MORE FAMILIES COMING TO LIVE WITH US AND I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS GRATITUDE TO BOTH COMMISSIONER CAZALAS AND COMMISSIONER LONGORIA. IT'S NOT JUST ONE THAT GIVES.
IT PERMEATES THROUGHOUT AN ENTIRE FAMILY UNIT SO THIS IS VERY SPECIAL TO HAVE YOU HERE TODAY.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING, JUDGE.
>> PLEASE GO AHEAD. >> I WANT TO LAY CONGRATULATIONS TO BETTY JEAN LONGORIA FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
CHUCK HIRED ME AT REKNELLEDS METAL COMPANY.
THAT'S A FEW YEARS AGO, RIGHT. [LAUGHTER].
YOU KNOW. AND I REMEMBER YOU WERE THERE AND SO THAT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF MY BIGGEST JOBS I'VE HAD SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ARE HIRING ME AT THAT TIME AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND I WORK WITH YOUR BROTHER FOR MANY YEARS ALSO, BILL, SO I GOT TO KNOW SOME OF THE CAZALAS FAMILY SO I REALLY THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY WORTH WHILE AND WHAT WE'RE
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DOING HERE TODAY IS SOMETHING THAT YOU BOTH DESERVE.YOU KNOW. IT'S A SMALL RECOMMEND ADDITION BUT SOMETHING YOU BOTH DESERVE. YOU WORK HARD FOR IT.
YOU DO WHAT HAVE YOU TO DO AND WE SPEAK WITH YOU SOMETIMES ON THE THINGS WE GO THROUGH BUT I WANT TO JUST CONGRATULATE YOU, YOUR WIFE, YOUR FAMILY FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND SO MY HEART GOES WITH YOU AND MY PRAYERERS AND HOPEFULLY GOED WILL GIVE YOU MANY MORE YEARS.
>> JUDGE, I WOULD LIKE TO CHIME IN, PLEASE.
>> CONGRATULATIONS, COMMISSIONER CAZALAS.
CONGRATULATIONS BETTY JEAN LONGORIA.
COMMISSIONER, I EWE YOUR DAD JAKE CAZALAS.
I WAS WORKING THERE THROUGH A SCHOOL PROGRAM AND HE STOPPED ME ONE DAY ARE YOU GOING TO SCHOOL? I SAID YES, SIR AND HE SAYS WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE AND I SAID I'M ON A WORK PROGRAM AND HE WOULD TALK TO ME ABOUT YOU PLAYING FOOTBALL SO ANYWAY, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.
>> SOLY CONCLUDE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT # 11 A.M.
I HAVE TO MOVE MY BOB HALL PIER PIECE TO DO THAT.
[14. Discuss and consider adopting Order changing name of County Road 18 (from the intersection of County Road 43 eastward to the dead end) to Betty Jean Longoria Road, in Nueces County, Texas pursuant to 251.013 of the Texas Transporation Code.]
AND IT'S BEEN ASKED THAT WE ADVANCE AND I CON CURE ADVANCE ITEMS 145 AND 15 -- CHANGING THE NAME OF COUNTY ROAD 18 FROM THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 43 EASTWARD TO THE DEAD END TO BETTY JEAN LONGORIA ROAD IN NUECES COUNTY PURSUANT TO 251.013 THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE.WILL THERE BE A MOTION? >> SO MOVED.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION ABA SECOND BY GONZALES. I HEARD HIM FIRST.
AND HAVING HAD DISCUSSION IN OUR PUBLIC HEARING ALL THOSE IN
>> OPPOSED. >> I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS SOMEONE FROM THEIR FAMILY. MICHAEL SAID HE MIGHT BE THERE TODAY. I REMEMBER THAT.
I KNOW THEY WEREN'T -- SHE WASN'T GOING BE HERE.
>> ANYONE FROM THE LONGORIA FAMILY WE WOULD BE GRATEFUL.
>> AGAIN I KNOW THEY HAD OTHER STUFF WE TALKED ABOUT IT BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE. I APOLOGIZE, JUDGE.
THANK YOU. >> OKAY. I THINK WE HAD ALREADY
[15. Discuss and consider adopting an Order changing the name of County Road 43 (from the intersections of FM 2444 southward to County Road 18) to Chuck Cazalas Boulevard, in Nueces County, Texas pursuant to Section 251.013 of the Texas Transportation Code.]
CALLED THE VOTE. AND NOW WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 5 AH TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADOPTING AN ORDER CHANGING THE NAME OF COUNTY ROAD 43 FROM INTERSECTIONS OF 2444 SOUTHWARD TO COUNTY ROAD 18 TO CHUCK CAZALAS BOULEVARD AND WE DO SO PURSUANT TO 251.013 THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION.THESE ARE ROADS INSIDE NUECES COUNTY TEXAS.
>> SO MOVED. >> MOTION AND A SECOND FROM GONZALES. ANY DISCUSSION?
>> I DIDN'T KNOW IF CHUCK WANTED TO SAY ANYTHING.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO. YOU KNOW THE DRILL.
>> IF YOU WANT TO -- >> LET US DO THE HOUSEKEEPING AND WE'LL INVITE YOU. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> COMMISSIONER, WE WELCOME YOU AND AS COMMISSIONER CHESNEY SAID
THE MIC JUST HELPS. >> I APPRECIATE IT ON BEHALF OF MY FAMILY. I KNOW EACH OF YOU COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, MAREZ, GONZALES, AND CHESNEY AND YOU, JUDGE.
AND I GOT TO TELL YOU, I HOPE OUR CHILDREN LEARN THE VALUE OF THE GOVERNMENT THAT IS CLOSEST TO THE PEOPLE AND IT'S DESIGNED BY THE TEXAS COMPLAINING WITNESS TUITION AND Y'ALL PERFORM VERY IMPORTANT ROLE IN OUR SOCIETY AND THAT WAS WHY I WAS INVOLVED AND MY FATHER WHO WORKED HERE FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS HE'S LOOKING DOWN AND I'M SURE HE'S HAPPY. SO -- AND MY WIFE.
SANDRA. AND I GOT TO TELL YOU, IT'S NICE
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SEEING BELINDA THIS MORNING. SHE IS A REAL ATTRIBUTE TO Y'ALL. ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER, I THINK YOU HAVE AS THEY SAY SOME PROPS.
>> OKAY. IT'S A NICE WAY TO START THE MOVING DON'T YOU THINK? YES, MA'AM.
>> ALL RIGHT. IT GETS BETTER BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT IN RECOGNITION THAT I THINK WILL MAKE THE
[2. Acknowledgment and recognition of Nueces County Public Works Director and County Engineer, Juan Pimentel, and staff for saving the county approximately 8 millions dollars in drainage and county road work over the past two years by participating in the Innovative Readiness Training (IRT), Department of Defense (DOD) program.]
TAXPAYERS VERY HAPPY THIS MORNING SO I WOULD DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO J2. J2 AND IT'S AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF NUECES COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND COUNTY ENGINEER AND HIS ENTIRE STAFF WHO MANY OF THEM ARE HERE WITH US TODAY.WE WANT TO BELL COME THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND THE STAFF AND WE HAVE A RECOGNITION HERENA IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION. LY READ IT AS WELL AND THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO SO I'M GUESSING MAYBE ONE -- CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION PRESENTED TO PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND PUBLIC WORKS STAFF FOR SAFING NUECES COUNTY $8 MILLION IN DRAINAGE AND COUNTY ROAD WORK OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS BY PARTICIPATING AND THE NOBODY VATIVE READINESS TRAINING AND DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AND YOU GUYS KNOW THE COMMISSIONERS COURT PUTTED IN THE MONEY FOR THE MATERIALS.
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THAT WE'VE -- THESE MEN AND WOMEN HERE THERE'S JUST PART OF THE GROUP THEY WERE PART OF THE PROCESS WITH THE RFT.[00:54:23]
>> $8 MILLION NOW SITTING IN OUR BANK.
WE WOULD NOT HAVE GETTEN THESE ROADS DONE WITHOUT YOU.
WE WOULD NOT HAVE. BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT THEY WERE JUST -- I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THESE ROADS DONE BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT FUNDED.
WE DIDN'T HAVE FUNDS TO DO THESE -- THANK YOU TO THEM WE
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WANT TO SEND A BIG THANK YOU, A BIG BUNCH OF ROSES.I GOD A ROAD THIS TIME SO I'M NOT SAYING THANK YOU BECAUSE OF THAT BUT I KNOW PERSONALLY NOW BECAUSE I WENT OUT AND SAW THAT ROAD AND IT WAS DONE QUICKLY WELL DONE AND REALLY MADE A DIFFERENCE SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> COMMISSIONER MAREZ. I MEAN, IT DIDN'T MATTER WHAT TIME OF DAY, WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK Y'ALL WERE OUT THERE ASSISTING THE MILITARY, THEY WERE ON THEIR SCHEDULE.
THEY COULD ONLY BE HERE FOR TWO WEEKS OR UP TO A MONTH BUT THEY HAD TO GET IT DONE OR THEY WERE SWAPPING OUT UNITS AND Y'ALL HAD TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH WHOEVER THE CHANGE OF COMMAND WAS OR THEIR PERSONNEL BUT Y'ALL GAVE THEM VALUABLE LESSONS IN TRAINING. THAT'S WHAT IRT IS ALL ABOUT.
INSTEAD OF TRAINING IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES, THEY WERE TRAINING HERE IN THE U.S. AND PUTTING THEIR SKILLS TO WORK HOAR IN OUR COUNTRY. WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH THE LAST TWO YEARS TO HAVE THE IRT. WE DID SO MUCH PLANNING WITH COMMISSIONER GONZALES AND Y'ALL THE YEAR BEFORE COVID AND THEN WE HAD TO WAIT AND THEN TURN AROUND AND IT BECAME EVEN BETTER BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO HAVE ONLY A SMALL CONTINGENT OF MILITARY HERE. WHEN WE GO TO THE PENTAGON TWICE A YEAR THERE'S A GROUP OF US FROM CORPUS CHRIS -- CORPUS CHRISTY. WE'RE A MILITARY COUNTY, A VETERAN'S COUNTY. THAT'S WHO WE ARE.
THE FACT THAT WE CANNOT ONLY BE SO HOSPITALABLE TO THEM IN HELPING THEM STAY WITH US LIKE THEY HAVE BEFORE BUT TO WORK SIDE BY SIDE. SOME OF US ALWAYS WANTED TO SERVE IN THE MILITARY. THIS -- IF YOU DID, WE OWE YOU A HUGE DEBT OF GRATITUDE BUT IF YOU DIDN'T, KNOW THIS, THAT YOUR SERVICE IN WITHIN IRT IS LIKE YOUR SERVICE FOR YOUR COUNTRY.
BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IMPORTANT IT IS.
AND SO TO NOT HAVE TO SEND THEM ACROSS THE OCEAN TO DO THE WORK THAT THEY NEED SO THEY HAVE THE EXPERIENCE WHEN THE CRISIS COMES AND THEY HAVE TO GO BUILD AN AIRPORT IN THE MIDDLE OF A DESERT OR A ROAD. RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN THEM. AND AS A RESULT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHETHER IT'S WORTH SAFINGS OR NOT, I KNOW WHEN PEOPLE NEED A ROAD YOU HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO FIND THE MONEY TO GET THEM FROM A TO B SO THIS IS A HUGE TAXPAYER WIN FOR THIS $8 MILLION. WE THE COURT WE GOT TO REMEMBER THAT TO BE READY FOR THIS COMING YEAR AND WE'VE ALREADY AS THEY SAY SPIED NEW AREAS THAT NEED ATTENTION AND YOU KNOW WHERE THEY ARE. AND SEE WHAT PROGRESS WE MADE
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COMING TOGETHER THIS YEAR. WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU TO JOIN US FOR A PHOTO AND THERE'S A LOT OF YOU.>> JUDGE, CAN I SAY A COUPLE MORE THINGS?
>> YES. YOU -- SOMEBODY CAN BE THE QUARTERBACK AND THE RECEIVERS BUT ATTEND OF THE DAY WE ALL GOT TO WORK AS A TEAM. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PUBLIC WORKS WHEN YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL IT'S BECAUSE YOU HAVE A GOOD TEAM AND THAT'S WITH MY STAFF.
WE HAVE A GOOD TEAM ALONG WITH Y'ALL WE HAVE A GOOD TEAM.
THIS IS A FOOD TIME LET THE PUBLIC KNOW IF ANYBODY IS LOOKING FOR A JOB PUBLIC WORKS THEY'LL TRAIN YOU, TEACH YOU HOW TO USE HEAVY EQUIPMENT, NOW IS THE PERFECT TIME.
YOU COME IN AND APPLY AND WORK WITH A GOOD TEAM.
GOOD PEOPLE HERE THAT WILL TRAIN YOU.
[2. Receive a presentation from the Coastal Bend Disaster Recovery Group regarding their work related to Hurricane Harvey and Texas Severe Winter Storm 2021.]
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>>> SO I AM GOING TO TAKE AN ITEM OUT OF ORDER BUT IT ACTUALLY WILL GO BEAUTIFULLY AND DOVE TAIL BEAUTIFULLY INTO OUR GENERAL INFORMATION REPORT. SO LOUIS, I'LL CALL ON YOU AFTER WE HEAR FROM A.J. THOMAS THE COASTAL BIN DISASTER RECOVERY GROUP. THEY'RE GOING TO SHARE A PRESENTATION RELATING TO HAD YOU TAPE HARVEY AND THE TEXAS SEVERE WINTER STORM OF 2021 R.J., WELCOME.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A POWER POINT BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE
TEEING IT UP. >> THANK YOU JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. I REALLY APPRECIATE BEING HERE TODAY. R.J. THOMAS WITH THE COASTAL BIN DISASTER RECOVERY GROUP. I'M ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THAT ORGANIZATION. THE ONE THING I WANT TO DO IS INTRODUCE MY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. I'M KIND OF LAZY SO I'LL DIP OUT AND LET HIM MAKE THE PRESENTATION.
HE TALKS A LOT LESS THAN I DO SO YOU PROBABLY WANT HIM ANYWAY BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE NOT JUST ARANSAS COUNTY BUT OTHER AREAS THAT THIS GROUP HAS BEEN ACTIVE IN AND A LOT OF IT WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IF IT WAS NOT FOR NUECES COUNTY ITSELF.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WITH OUR ORGANIZATION FROM THE VERY BEGINNING THAT YOU WOULD RECOGNIZE REBECCA RAUSCH, ONE OF OUR FOUNDING MEMBERS AND INSTRUMENTAL IN THE START OF THE ORGANIZATION IN 2015. OTHER PEOPLE WHO WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IN OUR FIRST OUTREACH IN 2015 WHICH WAS THE FLOODING WHICH INCLUDED AREAS OF NUECES COUNTY, EDWARD HERRERA ALSO HELPED US OUT WITH THAT. SO IF IT WAS NOT FOR THE THAT ARED WORK THAT THE NUECES COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AT THAT TIME PUT INTO THIS EFFORT WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE AS STRONG AN ORGANIZATION AS WE DO RIGHT NOW.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE CHRISTOPHER BRANDT, THE OUR EXECIVE DIRECTOR TO TAKE YOU THROUGH THE POWER POINT AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE UP TO.
>> THREAT IS. >> GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE TODAY.
I'M CHRISTOPHER BRANDT. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR COASTAL BEND DISASTER RECOVERY GROUP.
WE ARE A NONPROFIT THAT IS HERE. WE ARE ALL -- PART OF US ARE ALL FROM THE COASTAL BEND AND WE STARTED IN 2015.
AND WE WERE JUST GETTING READY TO WRAP UP THAT RECOVERY WHEN HARVEY HIT AND SO WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE BECAUSE WE HAD STARTED THE GAME WITH GETTING OUR TOES DIPPED IN.
A LOT OF AREAS DON'T HAVE A LONG TERM RECOVERY GROUP AND SO WHEN A DISASTER HITS, THE NATIONAL VADS, NATIONAL VOLUNTEER AGENCIES, ARE ACTIVE IN DISASTERS AND WANT TO COME IN AND HELP IMMEDIATELY AND THERE'S NOBODY IN CHARGE.
SO WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE IN OUR AREA TO HAVE COASTAL BEND SCHUSSER RECOVERY GROUP SO THEY COULD START COMING IN AND PLUGGING IN. WHAT IS LONG TERM RECOVERY? IT IS NOT SHORT TERM RECOVERY WHICH IS WHAT WE ALL THINK OF WHICH IS THE FIRST SIX MONTHS WHERE HAVE YOU THE DEBRIS REMOVAL, TARPING ROOFS, THE MUCK.
LONG TERM RECOVERY CAN LAST UP AH FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
FOR US WITH HARVEY IT'S BEEN A LITTLE OVER FIVE YEARS.
WE PRIMARILY FOCUS ON LONG TERM SOLUTIONS AND WANT TO CREATE A PERMANENT SOLUTION AND HOPEFULLY MAKE SURE -- SO IF YOUR ROOF IS
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LEAKING WE WANT A BRAND NEW ROOF SO THAT ROOF WILL LAST FOR YEARS AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT HAS A WP 8 FOR WIND INSURANCE IN CASE THERE IS ANOTHER DISASTER. SO WHERE DO WE COVER? THE 11 COUNTIES OF THE COASTAL BEND.WE DO THAT BECAUSE COUNTIES OR DISASTERS DON'T KNOW COUNTY LINES SO THAT WAY WE CAN COORDINATE FOR THE WHOLE AREA AND THAT WAY INSTEAD OF HAVING TO TALK TO ONE GROUP AND COUNTY AND ANOTHER, THE NATIONAL VOLUNTEERS CAN COME TO US AND WE CAN COORDINATE IN THE WHOLE AREA.
SO OUR MISSION IS TO STRENGTHEN REGIONAL LONG TERM RECOVERY BY ADDRESSING AND JOINTLY RESOLVING UNMET DISASTER RELATED NODES OF THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE COASTAL BEND.
SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE DO, TRY TO COORDINATE WITH OTHER NONPROFIT AGENCIES SO THAT WE CAN BE MORE EFFECTIVE AND HELPING PEOPLE RECOVER FROM DISASTER.
WHAT IS AN UNMET NEED? IT IS A BASIC SAFE AND SANITARY INSECURE NEED THAT IS DISASTER RELATED AND THE SURVIVOR IS UNABLE TO OBTAIN BECAUSE THEY LACK EITHER PART OR ALL THE RESOURCES TO OBTAIN THAT. I ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD A GRANITE COUNTERTOP BROKEN OR DESTROYED FROM A DISASTER, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO MAYBE GET YOU AN FORMICAONE BECAUSE IT'S CLEAN AND SAFE.
SO IT'S NOT REPLACING EXACTLY THE WAY IT WAS BUT MAKING SURE PEOPLE LIVE IN BASIC SAFE SECURE HOUSING.
WHO ARE OUR CLIENTS? THE VULNERABLE POPULATION.
LOW INCOME, SENIORS, VETERANS, SINGLE PARENTS, PEOPLE WITH A
DISABLE. >>> WHEN DO WE ACTIVATE? WHEN THERE'S A FEDERALLY DECLARED DISASTER AND INDIVIDUAL ADID ISSANCE HAS BEEN APPROVED. WE HAVE ACTIVATED THREE TIMES TO DATE, 2015 WITH THE FLOOD IN NUECES, 2017, HURRICANE HARVEY, AND THEN IN 2020 THE TEXAS SEVERE WINTER STORM.
SO WITH THE TEXAS SEVERE WINTER STORM, I DON'T THINK I HAD POWER DURING THAT AND WE GOT A PHONE CALL FROM THE MENNONITE DISASTER SERVICE AND THEY CALLED TO HELP. WE ALREADY ESTABLISHED WITH THE NATIONAL VOLUNTEERS CAME TO HELP TO RESTORE 141 HOMES WITH BASIC WATER SERVICES. WE HAD 740 VOLUNTEER PLUMBING HOURS. WE WERE -- WE SPENT 85 THOUSAND IN CONSTRUCTION REPAIRS. AND EVERY DISASTER IS DIFFERENT.
THIS ONE WAS REALLY DIFFERENT AND TENED TO BE MORE RURAL AND TENDED TO BE HOUSEHOLDS THAT WERE SINGLE AND ELDERLY OR WITH SOMEBODY WITH A DISABILITY AND SO THEY LACKED AS YOU REMEMBER YOU COULD NOT GET SUPPLIES IN STORES.
NONE OF THE PLUMBING AGENCIES WOULD LEAVE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH WORK.
SO THESE WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE REALLY IN REMOTE AREAS SO WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE TO COORDINATE WITH OTHER AGENCIES LIKE HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, CORPUS CHRISTI, WE COORDINATED WITH THEM AND OTHER AGENCIES SO THAT WE COULD HELP ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO. COASTAL BEND IS MADE UP OF SEVEN PARTS. DONATIONS AND VOLUNTEERS, CONSTRUCTION, DISASTER CASE MANAGEMENT, UNMET NEEDS ROUND TABLE. THE NEXT SLIDE YOU'LL SEE VOLUNTEER WITH HURRICANE HARVEY WE HAD 179,000 VOLUNTEER HOURS.
IT SAVED US OVER $3.4 MILLION IN CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
90% OF THOSE HOURS CAME OUTSIDE THE STATE OF TEXAS.
THEY WERE FROM NATIONAL HOURS OF CANADA, OHIO, PENNSYLVANIA, KANSAS AND THEY WERE PRIMARILY MADE UP OF MENNONITE DISASTER SERVICES, CARE, AND CHRISTIAN PUBLIC SERVICES.
NEXT SLIDE. SO AS FAR AS WHAT OUR ORGANIZATION DID, WE SPENT 9.2 MILLION IN CONSTRUCTION.
WE HAD THE 3.4 MILLION IN VOLUNTEER LABOR SAVINGS.
AND THEN $4.1 MILLION WAS OTHER AGENCIES SAID WE HAVE MONEY BUT WE HAVE NO WAY OF MANAGING THIS CONSTRUCTION AND YOU DO THAT FOR US. SO WE ACTUALLY MANAGE THE CONSTRUCTION SO THAT PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED IF WE WERE NOT AROUND BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SOMEBODY ABLE TO
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IMPLEMENT CONSTRUCTION. THEY GO OUT AND TRY TO FIND RESOURCES SO OUR CASE MANAGERS -- AND THIS IS ABOUT 11 PEOPLE THAT WE HAD. THEY WERE ABLE TO SECURE $36.2 MILLION IN RESOURCES. THEY FOUND -- THEY WERE ABLE TO GET 263 HOMES REPLACED. WE WENT OUT AND CONTACTED USING FEMA. WE CONTACTED ALMOST 6500 HOUSEHOLDS TO FIND OUT IF THEY NEEDED HELP.WE ACTIVELY CASE MANAGED 1,200 HOUSEHOLDS AND HELPED ALMOST 3,000 PEOPLE. YOU'LL NOTICE 136 HOUSES WERE ACTUALLY FROM THE TEXAS GENERAL&OFFICE PROGRAM, THE HAT PROGRAM WHERE THEY REPLACE HOUSES SO WE CASE MANAGED THOSE PEOPLE AND HELPED THEM THROUGH IT SINCE WE KNEW THE PROCESS WE WERE ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE THAT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET THROUGH THAT GAPED LET OF DOCUMENTS.
I THINK IT'S THREE OF THE COUNTIES, 17% OF THE PEOPLE THAT RECEIVED GLO HOMES WERE CASE MANAGED BY US.
OUR CASE MANAGER WAS ACTUALLY THE FIRST ONE IN ROCKPORT THAT WAS ACTUALLY CASE MANAGEMENTED BY CBDRG.
AND THEN THERE'S COUNTLESS ONES LIKE FRIENDS AND FAMILY BUT WE'RE VERY PROUD OF HOW MANY OF OUR CLIENTS WERE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THAT. SO I TALKED ABOUT THE UNMET NEEDS ROUND TABLE AND WHAT THE ROUND TABLE IS, IS A COALITION OF THE WILLING WHERE OTHER LONG TERM RECOVERY GROUPS COME TOGETHER, FUNDERS, AND THEY SIT ON ONE SIDE OF THE TABLE AND DISASTER CASE MANAGERS PRESENT UNMET NEEDS AND WE AS FUNDERS GO IN A ROOM AND FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE COORDINATE BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES, THE DISASTERS ARE TOO BIG FOR ONE ORGANIZATION.
I LIKE TO GIVE THE EXAMPLE OF ONE PARTICULAR CASE HABITAT -- ALL HANDS AND HEARTS WAS SHEET ROCKING A TRAILER BUT THE WELL HAD GONE BAD BECAUSE THE STORM SURGE HAD GONE IN AND WRECKED THE WELL. THEY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO THAT. SO WHEN THE CASE CAME TOGETHER ONE AGENCY SAID I'LL PAY FOR THE WELL.
ANOTHER SAYS I'LL PROVIDE THE LABOR.
I'LL PROVIDE -- AND SO BY COMING TOGETHER THEY WERE ABLE TO MEET THAT CLIENT'S BASIC NEEDS. SO THROUGH THE ROUND TABLE WE WERE ABLE TO FUND 359 MAJOR REPAIRS, REPLACE 260 HOMES AND OBLIGATE $22.3 MILLION. SO THE NEXT SLIDE IS KIND OF THE SUMMARY OF THE IMPACT BETWEEN THESE NUMBERS I RATTLED OFF OF CASE MANAGEMENT, CONSTRUCTION, UNMET NEEDS, ROUND TABLE.
ALL TOGETHER, WE WERE ABLE TO SECURE $50.9 MILLION IN RESOURCES TO THE COASTAL BEND. AND WE WERE ABLE TO REPLACE 413 HOMES WITH BRAND NEW HOMES THAT ARE HOPFULLY WILL RIDE OUT THE
NEXT DISASTER A LOT BETTER. >> FANTASTIC.
SO THE NEXT COUPLE OF PAGES I WANTED TO JUST SHOW THOSE TWO PAGES. THOSE ARE SHOWING YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE WE WORKED TOGETHER WITH TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND LIKE I SAID, I USUALLY GET EMOTIONAL BECAUSE WE ARE A GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS. WE DO NOT RECEIVE GOVERNMENT FUNDING. IT'S ALL THROUGH DONATIONS.
ALL OUR GRANTS ARE DONATIONS AND SO THESE ARE GOOD PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY PRESENT EMPATHY FOR SOMEBODY THAT THEY DON'T KNOW AND DONATE MONEY OR TIME OR EFFORT TO HELP THEM AND SO I
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ALWAYS FIND IT VERY AMAZING IN THIS DAY AND AGE THAT WE COULD BE SO SUCCESSFUL WHEN WE COME TOGETHER AND PUT ASIDE OUR DISAGREEMENTS AND JUST FOCUS ON THE MAJOR TASK AT HAND.>> SO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU GUYS. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN TWO CO COUNTIES BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FORMALIZE OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH DIFFERENT COUNTIES BY ASKING FOR A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING SO BETWEEN OUR COUNTIES AND THE ORGANIZATION.
WE ARE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY. I'M TRYING TO GET A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING SET UP AND IN PLACE SO THAT IF THERE IS ANOTHER DISASTER THEN WE'LL KNOW HOW TO HANDLE IT AND BE ABLE TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING BECAUSE THOSE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS ARE JUST SO VALUABLE AND YOU DON'T WANT TO BE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TOO DO OF THAT TYPE OF THING.
ANY QUESTIONS? >> JUST AGAIN SO MUCH GRATITUDE FOR IT WAS SO IMPORTANT TO HER WHEN SHE TRANSITIONED THAT SHE BROUGHT ALL HER NEW FRIENDS WITH HER.
I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE EXPANDED BECAUSE OF HER TRANSITION AND STRENGTHENED NUECES COUNTY. NOW MR. RAY IS SERVING AND WE'RE GRATEFUL. THAT'S WHY I SAID IT'S PERFECT TO HAVE HIS INFORMATION REPORT RIGHT AFTER BUT IT'S -- I THINK IMPORTANT WHEN PEOPLE WHEN DISASTER STRIKES PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW HOW THEY CAN HELP. THIS IS HOW YOU CAN HELP.
THIS IS HOW YOU CAN HELP SAFELY. RIGHT.
YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO JUST GIVE WITHOUT KNOWING THAT IT'S GOING TO GO TO THE RIGHT IN THE RIGHT WAYS.
AND SO YOUR PARTNERS ARE THE PARTNERS THAT ARE RIGHT PARTNERS TO ENSURE DONATIONS DO AFFECT PEOPLE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT AND PLEASE
INTRODUCE YOUR TEAM. >> THIS IS DONNA ROSS AND SHE'S
I WANTED TO JUST MENTION ONE MORE THING.
CBDRG, WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS MAKE SURE THERE'S A SUSTAINABLE ORGANIZATION SO WE WILL IN THE FUTURE BE REACHING OUT TO THE INDUSTRY TO SEE IF WE CAN SUSTAIN THIS ORGANIZATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE READY AS SOON AS FEMA LEAVE CBDRG WILL BE
THERE WITH LONG TERM DELIVERY. >> ANY QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS,
COMMENTS? >> I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THAT MR. RAY IS ON OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HE IS RECOGNIZED AS WELL AND THAT NUECES COUNTY IS AN ACTIVE PART
AS DANIELLE WOULD WANT IT AND AS THEY SAY DEMAND IT.
I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT.
WOULD YOU MIND APPROACHING THE DAIS AND ANNOUNCE YOUR NAME? IS IT A COMMENT REGARDING CBDRG. OKAY. THANK YOU.
I AM THE NEW FLOOD PLAIN MANAGER FOR THE RIVER AUTHORITY SO THIS IS A NEW POSITION CREATED IN THIS EFFORT SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE TO THE ORGANIZATION.
THIS IS A NEW POSITION THAT RIGHT NOW IS WORKING UNDER REGIONAL FLOOD PLANNING FOR THE STATE.
AND PERMISSION TO MY BOSSES -- I HAVE A TRUCK THAT I KNOW IS VERY VALUABLE DURING RECOVERY EFFORT AND MY HEART GOES TO MEAN, I'M D I MYSELF WENT THROUGH VARIOUS HURRICANES AND FLOODS AND TWO TIMES I HAD TO RUSH WITH MY FAMILY OUT OF MY HOUSE BECAUSE THE WATER WAS JUST ENTERING THE HOUSE SO I KNOW WHAT THIS IS GOING THROUGH. SO JUST TO EXTEND MY COOPERATION FROM THE NUECES RIVER AUTHORITY WHENEVER YOU NEED AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER IN THIS EFFORT.
>> THANK YOU. VERY GOOD COMMENT.
AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR GREAT PRESENTATION.
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I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE IT GETS DISTRIBUTED TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS IN THEIR OFFICES. AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT DISASTER OR CRISIS BUT IT MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER TO THINK ABOUT KNOWING THAT YOU'RE THERE.AND BECAUSE IT'S THAT LONG TERM THAT REALLY MAKES FOR YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW THAT SOMEONE NOT GOING TO LEAVE YOU AND I THINK TOO THAT FIRST SLIDE WILL HAVE TO MAYBE RE-EMPHASIZE IT BUT YOU COME IN WHEN INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE IS DECLARED AND THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN. RIGHT.
[1. Discuss disaster preparedness and response, including matters related to COVID-19, Emergency Orders, severe weather, flooding, drainage, economic recovery, state and federal assistance, American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA), Emergency Rental Assistance Program (ERAP), and infrastructure status, and other related matters.]
>>> THE KBDI, THE AVERAGE FOR THIS WEEK IS AT 431 SO ONE THING WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WE'RE STILL UNDER THE STAGE ONE WATER RESTRICTION FOR THE COUNTY. CASES OF FLU FOR NUECES ARE UP PROBABLY 600 FROM LAST YEAR. ONE REASON YOU CAN THINK ABOUT THAT LAST YEAR MOST OF US WERE WEARING MASKS SO THEY WERE PROTECTING FRUSTRATE GETTING THE FLU.
NOW WE'RE NOT WEARING MASKS SO THE FLU IS UP.
THERE ARE LOCATIONS YOU CAN GO AND GET THE FLU VACCINATION AS WELL AS THE COVID-19 VACCINATION WITH THE SHOTS FOR OMICRON AND REGULAR COVID-19. ONE THING YOU WANT TO DO IS GO TO THE CCNC PUBLIC HEALTH WEBSITE AND THEY HAVE A FORM THAT YOU CAN FILL OUT AND YOU CAN USE THAT TO GET AN APPOINTMENT TO GET YOUR VACCINATIONS.
I HAVE TO BRING UP SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE INVOLVED IN AND THE LOCAL EMERGENCY PLANNING COMMITTEE IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE COUNTY IS VOFLED WITH AND THE LAPC HAS FOUR
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COMMITTEES, EMERGENCY RESPONSE, YOU HAVE A RISK AWARENESS, A PIPELINE DAMAGE, AND FINANCE COMMITTEE.AND THROUGH THOSE COMMITTEES WE ARE POISED TO HELP OUT WITH GENERAL INDUSTRIES AND OUR RESIDENTS FOR HAZMAT RESPONSE.
[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]
[C. Authorize payment of bills - Special Motions List dated October 19, 2022.]
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SGLING EVERYTHING ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT YOU KNOW AND THE CONTRACT IS VERY -- I WENT BACK TO THE CONTRACT, WELL, VERYCLEAR HOW THE PROCESS IS. >> WILL YOU CHECK INTO THAT AND WILL YOU ALSO CHECK INTO THE FACT THAT AND I MAKE SURE EVERYTHING ABUSE WHAT WE DO IN THIS IS WE CONTACTED THE DEPARTMENT -- WITH GRANTS TO LOOK INTO THE DATES AND WE TALKED TO SUSAN AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS FINE AND THEY GOT INTO THAT DECISION THAT --
>> THAT'S WHY THEY WERE SIGNED OR APPROVED SO SOMETHING WENT WRONG THERE SO WE CHANGED EVERYTHING THERE MIDSTREAM AND IF IT IT'S GOOD IT'S GOOD BUT YOU KNOW WE NEED TO STICK TO WHAT THE CONTRACT SAYS AND HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BACK.
>> AND WE ALSO NEED TO PAY PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS PROMPT PAY ACT AND I KNOW YOU HAVE WORKED ON THAT AND WE NEED A POLICY BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS WE LOOK TO YOU AND DID YOU IT IN THIS FACE TO FIGURE OUT WHY SOMEONE IS HOLDING UP INVOICES FOR SIX MONTHS AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS THEY NEED TO COME BACK TO YOU.
IF SOMEONE IS INTERNALLY NEEDING HELP YOU CAN PROVIDE THAT HELP.
>> THAT'S CORRECT, YES. AND WHAT WE DID -- I TRY TO OVERSEE EVERYTHING AND WORK WITH THE STAFF.
>> THE SAME THING GOES WITH ALL THE OTHER SUBCONTRACTORS BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF THE SUBCONTRACTORS HAVE NOT BEEN PAID UNTIL TWO OR THREE MONTHS LATER NOT BECAUSE NOBODY APPROVED THEM HERE LOCALLY BUT BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT SUBMITTED.
THAGS THE OTHER THING WE NEED TO LOOK INTO.
RIGHT. ALL THE SUBCONTRACTORS SHOULD GET PAY ADD CORDING TO THE CONTRACT.
>> SO LET'S PAY EVERYBODY ON TIME.
>> AND I THOUGHT IT WAS PUBLIC WORKS THAT WAS OVERSEEING THIS
PROJECT. >> LOOK AT THE PROCESS.
LOOK AT THE CONTRACT. >> RIGHT.
>> AND IN THIS CASE, IT WAS MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE GRANTS HAD A ROLE IN IT AS WELL. THIS IS A GRANT.
THE CONTRACT IS WITH THE STATE. AND SO THE STATE ALSO DICTATES WHEN -- WHAT THE RULES ARE AND THE COMPLIANCE BUT IN THIS CASE WE'RE GOOD. THEY'VE BEEN REVIEWED.
YOU'VE REVIEWED THEM. ANA HAS REVIEWED THEM.
THEY'RE READY TO GO AND THEY'RE SIX MONTHS OVERDUE SO WE NEED TO GET THIS DONE. SO WILL YOU MAKE THE MOTION SO
YOU CAN JUST MOVE ON. >> I HAVE A QUESTION AFTER THE
GO AHEAD. HAVE YOU A QUESTION,
COMMISSIONER. >> OKAY. SO THE BILLS TODAY -- THE TOTAL IS $8,000 FOR THE MAY THROUGH SEPTEMBER.
>> RIGHT. AND THE QUESTION I HAD WAS ON SOME OF THE MEALS I'M JUST THEY LOOKED HIGH BUT THEY MAY NOT BE SO I'M TRYING TO FIND THE BACK UP FOR THAT AS TO MEALS AT THE OMNI AND THINGS LIKE THAT. DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION? I'M LOOKING AND I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT OVERSHOOTING ON MEALS AND BUYING MEALS FOR -- I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ARE.
>> SURE. >> AND THE CONTRACT WE PAY IS THREE WHICH INCLUDES EXPENSES. SO THEN IT'S JUST REVIEWING AND THEN WE MAKE SURE I HAVE ALL THE BACK UP AND EXPENSES
>> AND YOU'VE REVIEWED THEM AND ARE SATISFY.
>> WITH ANNA. SO I GIVE IT TO ANNA TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS FINE AND THEN WE HAVE MEETINGS WITH
SO ON THE MEAL EXPENSES ARE THEY JUST MEALS FOR SUSAN ROTH AT THE OMNI? DO YOU KNOW?
DID YOU CHECK? >> COMMISSIONER, EVERY TIME --
>> I'M TRYING TO -- >> NO BUT THE IMPLICATION IS
TALK]. >> I'M ASKING A QUESTION.
HAVE YOU CHECKED THESE RECEIPTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ONLY FOR THE VENDOR AND THAT THEY ARE APPROPRIATE.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD BY ANNA.
AND TO WORK WITH LOOKING INTO THE INVOICES.
THAT'S CORRECT. >> SO CAN ANNA JUST PROVIDE ME SOMETHING TO BACK UP THAT SHOWS WHAT THOSE WERE.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- >> ANNA IS OVERSEEING -- BECAUSE AS THE JUDGE STATED IT'S GOING THROUGH THE GRANT.
THE TEXAS WIDE DEVELOPMENT BOARD.
>> ANDLY POINT OUT ONE MORE TIME THESE ARE SO OLD THIS IS FROM A
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PREVIOUS CONTRACT. YOUR CURRENT CONTRACTS DON'TEVEN HAVE TRAVEL. >> 25 OF 22 THESE ARE --
>> YOU CAN'T EVEN LET ME ASK QUESTIONS.
>> YOU'RE OUTRAGEOUS. YOU'RE OUTRAGEOUS THAT YOU WOULD MALIGN SOMEBODY.
>> SO IF YOU WOULD JUST PROVIDE ME THE BACK UP THAT THE JUDGE DOESN'T WANT KNOW HAVE AND THINKS THAT ME ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT SOMEONE SHE WANTS TO PROTECT IS OUTRAGEOUS.
I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.
>> POINT OF ORDER. >> BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DO.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE APPROPRIATELY ANSWERED.
THESE ARE DOLLARS THAT NEED TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR BY THE TAXPAYERS. PLEASE LET ME HAVE THOSE AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE IF WE WOULD CHECK -- I ECHO COMMISSION GONZALES WHATEVER THE CONTRACT SAYS HOWEVER WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PAID, PAY IT.
IF THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH BEING PROMPTLY PAID THEN CERTAINLY SOMEONE SHOULD HAVE THAT OR SOMEBODY CAN BRING THAT BACK TO COURT TOO AND LET'S DISCUSS THAT AS WELL.
>> UNPLIFABLE. >> I'M ALSO CONCERNED I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE SAME BACK UP. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE RECEIPTS.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE WAS ONE FOR 600 AND SOMETHING DOLLARS. I WANT TO SEE IF IT IS.
>> I WILL PROVIDE THE RECEIPTS WITH EVERYTHING REVIEWED BY ANNA
AND I'LL PROVIDE THE BACK UP. >> NOT JUST ANNA, YOU YOURSELF.
>> YOU YOURSELF MET WITH HER AND ARE WE READY TO LET'S JUST VOTE.
OKAY. >> ONE MORE QUESTION, JUDGE.
>> WE'RE DOING THIS RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE IN KIND BEING PAID THROUGH GOMEZ RIGHT.
RIGHT OR WRONG? I READ SOMEWHERE THAT SUSAN ROSS WAS BEING PAID BY THEM. IS THAT RIGHT?
IS THAT COMING FROM A GRANT? >> THE GOMESAFUNDSES.
>> WE GO OVER THIS ALL THE TIME AND IT'S JUST A SHAME THAT NOBODY CAN KEEP IT STRAIGHT ON MY RIGHT.
IT'S THE GULF OF MEXICO ENOUGH, PLEASE.
QUESTIONS WITHOUT YOU -- YOU CAN GAVEL ALL YOU WANT.
>> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY YOU NEED TO STOP.
YOU DON'T HAVE THE FLOOR. PLEASE LET PEOPLE REPRESENT THEIR CONSTITUENTS. WE CAN'T EVEN TALK IN THIS COURTROOM WITHOUT YOU GAVELLING US OUT.
THE MAN IS JUST ASKING QUESTIONS.
I'M ASKING QUESTIONS. I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE THE QUESTIONS BUT LET US ASK QUESTIONS PLEASE.
>> ACTUALLY THE QUESTIONS REVEAL YOURSELF AND REVEAL COMMISSIONER GONZALES VERY WELL. YOU ALL ENJOY MALIGNING PEOPLE IN THIS COURTROOM. AND I WON'T TOLD
>> YOU DO IT TO WOMEN ONLY. IT'S AMAZING YOU DID IT LAST WEEK WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT AND TODAY YOU DO IT WITH -- IT IS A WOMENS THING AND WOMEN IN THIS COUNTY RECOGNIZE EVERY TIME
YOU'RE THE PRESIDING JUDGE. >> THAT'S NICE OF YOU TO
RECOGNIZE IT. >> MAY I HAVE THE FLOOR?
YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER. >> Y'ALL ARE FUNNY AND YOU THINK YOU'RE MAKING A POINT BUT ALL YOU'RE DOING IS MAKING MINE.
THE BILLS FROM THE LAST ITEM C 24 PASS.
AND WE'LL MOVE ON AND GO INTO REGULAR AGENDA BUT I DID SAY TO
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STAFF I WAS GOING TO DO IT AT 10:30 BUT GIVEN THAT IT'S A PRESENTATION NEXT I'M GOING TO ASK THAT IT'S LESS THAN 15 MINUTES AS IT WAS POINTED OUT TO ME THE LAST TIME AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BATHROOM BREAK FOR STAFF.PLEASE BE BACK HERE NO LATER THAN 10:30 AND WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE PRESENTATION FROM THE SOUTHWEST TRANSPLANT ALLIANCE ON
OR >>> WE'RE BACK ON THE RECORD AT
[1. Receive presentation from Southwest Transplant Alliance on organ and tissue transplantation in South Texas.]
10:35 P.M. -- I'M SORRY.A.M. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO 3A1 WHICH IS A PRESENTATION FROM THE SOUTHWEST TRANSPLANT ALLIANCE ON ORGAN AND TISSUE TRANSPLANTATION IN SOUTH TEXAS.
>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, AND COMMUNITY.
I WANT TO KEEP WITH THE THEME OF HONORING THE GIFT.
ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WHEN WE MET HERE IN OCTOBER OF 2019 WAS TO DO BETTER. WE'D LIKE TO THINK OF DONATION AS IT PERTAINS TO TALKING ABOUT LOVE.
YOU DIDN'T JUST SAY IT ONCE TO SOMEONE YOU CARE ABOUT.
IT'S SOMETHING WE TRY TO MENTION ON PURPOSE.
I'M DAMIEN JACKSON WITH SOUTHWEST TRANSPLANT ALLIANCE AND MY COLLEAGUE HERE IS WITH SOUTH TEXAS BLOOD AND TISSUE CENTER AND JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE COURT WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE CHALLENGE FROM JUDGE CANALES FOR DOING BETTER.
FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT BE NEW, WE'RE A NATIONWIDE NETWORK OF FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED ORGAN PROCUREMENT OPERATIONS.
OUR SERVICE AREA INCLUDES ABOUT TEN TRANCE PLANT CENTERS OVER 270 HOSPITALS AND WE COVER ABOUT 85 COUNTIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND ONE COUNTY THAT KIND OF TEETERS ON ARKANSAS LINES OVER IN TEXARKANA. WE'VE RECOVERED OVER 35,000 ORGANS WHICH SAVED AND/OR EASTBOUND HANDED LIVES OF MORE THAN 100,000 PEOPLE AND MY COLLEAGUE KIMBERLY, I WANT HER TO SHARE ABOUT SOUTH TEXAS BLOOD AND TISSUE WHO WE PARTNER WITH
TO SERVE OUR HOSPITALS. >> THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. MY NAME IS KIMBERLY MONROE WITH SOUTHWESTERN BLOOD AND TISSUE. WE ARE ACCREDITED BY THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF TISSUE BANKS.
WE'RE A NONPROFIT BLOOD AND TISSUE CITY LOCATED IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS AND COVER SOUTH TEXAS INCLUDING THE SAN ANTONIO METRO AREA. WE WORK WITH APPROXIMATELY 100 PLUS HOSPITALS IN THAT AREA AND UNLIKE FEDERALLY DESIGNATED OPOS, HOSPITALS CAN CHOOSE WHICH TISSUE AND EYE BANK THEY WORK WITH SO WE WORK WITH HOSPITALS IN THE CORPUS CHRISTI AND VICTORIA AREA. SOME OF THOSE HOSPITALS ARE CONTRACTED DIRECTLY WITH US. OTHERS WE SERVICE THROUGH AN AGREEMENT WITH SOUTHWEST TRANSPLANT ALLIANCE AND ESSENTIALLY OUR MISSION IS TO BE ABLE TO HONOR THE CHOICES OF DONORS AND FAMILIES WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN ORGAN EYE AND TISSUE DONATION. WE ALSO RECOVER TISSUE FROM APPROXIMATELY 500 DONORS EVERY YEAR AND ONE DONOR HAS THE ABILITY TO HELP AT LEAST 75 DIFFERENT PEOPLE THROUGH THAT
>> SO WITH RESPECT TO PARTNERSHIP, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND TALKING TO OUR HOSPITALS IS HOW WE CAN REDUCE THE TIME THAT OUR NURSES SPEND ON THE PHONE TRANSFERRING THAT INFORMATION SO HAVING ONE POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE HOSPITAL HAS BEEN AIDING IN STREAM LINING AND ALSO GOING INTO THE REFERRAL PROCESS STREAMING AND AUTHORIZATION AND THEN PROVIDING ONGOING BERECEIVEMENT SUPPORT WHICH IS SOMETHING PEOPLE TAKE FOR GRANTED THAT SUPPORT IS ONGOING FOR EACH FAMILY AND TO EX-TONED THE HOSPITALS AS WELL. SO OUR GOAL IS TO SAVE LYES THROUGH DONATION. THAT'S OUR MISSION.
AND PROMOTING DONATIONS IN COMMUNITY AND ENCOURAGING OUR DONOR PARTNERSHIP WITH DONOR LIFE TEXAS.
SO YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN WHEN YOU REGISTER A VEHICLE OR TRY TO GET A LICENSE THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR THE REGISTRY. WHEN I STARTED BACK IN 2005,
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THAT REGISTRY POPULATION WAS ABOUT MAYBE 600,000.WE'RE UP TO ABOUT 14 MILLION NOW IF THAT SHOWS YOU ANYTHING WITH RESPECT TO GROWTH. WE ALL KNOW THAT TEXAS IS GROWING. AND LIKE SHE MENTIONED FOR TISSUE. ONE PERSON CAN SAVE EIGHT LIVES THROUGH DONATION AND THE BIGGER PICTURE THAT I WANTED TO SHARE IS SAVING LIFE IS SOMETHING THAT TRANSFERS TO US AS HUMANS.
SO TAKE AWAY WHAT WE DO EACH AND EVERY DAY, ANY ONE OF US CAN EITHER BE A DONOR OR RECIPIENT. THAT'S HOW WE LOOK AT IT.
MOVING FORWARD INTO THE DONATION PROCESS THE PROCESS BEGINS WITH THE HOSPITAL INITIATING THE REFERRAL.
AND INITIATING THE REFERRAL IS BASICALLY A CURSORY OVERVIEW OF WHAT LED TO THE DEMISE OF THIS INDIVIDUAL.
BUT ALSO PART OF THIS THE MEDICAL EXAMINER IS INVOLVED WITH THAT PROCESS WITH RESPECT TO WE KNOW BY THE WAY THE INDIVIDUAL TRIAGES TO THE HOSPITAL THAT THE MEDICAL EXAMINER IS GOING TO WANT TO SEE THAT PATIENT SO THAT'S WHY THE COLLABORATION IS SO IMPORTANT. SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF NUMBERS TO SHARE IN ANOTHER SLIDE. THEN WE GO INTO DONOR SCREENING AND VERIFYING THAT THE PATIENT IS ACTUALLY REGISTERED AND THERE ARE TWO WAYS THAT DONATION CAN HAPPEN.
YOU CAN SIGN UP ON THE REGISTRY BUT IF YOU HAVE NOT THEN YOUR FAMILY MEMBER CAN SPEAK FOR YOU. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO WAYS THAT
YOU ESSENTIALLY BECOME A DONOR. >> AND ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY NOT BE AWARE OF IS THAT TEXAS IS WHAT WE CALL OFTEN IN OUR FIELD A FIRST PERSON CONSENT STATE WHICH MEANS THAT WHEN A PERSON REGISTERS THEIR DESIRE ON THE STATE REGISTRY TO DONATE IT'S LOOKED AT AS THE SAME AS AN ADVANCED DIRECTIVE. SO THAT INDIVIDUAL, THEIR GIFT AND CHOICE IS IRREVOCABLE EVEN BY THEIR FAMILY AND THE REASON WE LIKE TO POINT THAT OUT IS WE'VE SEEN HOW MUCH THE REGISTRY HAS GROWN SO IT SHOWS THAT TEXANS ARE VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN HELPING PEOPLE THROUGH THE GIFT OF THEIR DONATION AFTER
THEIR PASSING. >> SO WITH RESPECT TO THAT ONE THAT I THINK WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO IS JUST HAVE THE DISCUSSION. DO YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS KNOW WHAT YOUR WISHES ARE? SO THAT'S THE OVERARCHING MESSAGE. THEN THE NEXT SLIDE GOES INTO OUR COVID YEAR WHERE WE HAD 11 ORGAN DONORS AND SAVED -- TRANSPLANTED ABOUT 33 O KAMBINS AND OUT OF THOSE 11 CASES NINE OF THEM CAME THROUGH THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE.
AND THEN INTO 2021 WE HAD ABOUT 14 ORGAN DONORS AND 57 O BEGANS TRANCE PLANTED. SO OUT OF THOSE 14 ALL 14 WERE SEEN BY THE MEDICAL EXAMINER IN SOME WAY SHAPE OR FORM.
SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE POWER TO GIVE AND SAVE LIFE, THAT'S WHY WE GO BACK TO HOW WE RECOGNIZE THIS PROCESS.
SO THROUGH EDUCATION WE'RE GOING TO TRY OUR BEST TO BE DILIGENT WITH GETTING THE MESSAGE OUT. SO YOU MAY SEE US IN THE HOSPITALS, AT LARGE EVENTS FOR NUECES COUNTY BUT THAT IS JUST TO REITERATE EVERY NINE MINUTES A PERSON IS ADDED TO THE WAITING LIST. ONLY 1% OF AMERICANS DIE IN A WAY THEY MAY BECOME AN ORGAN DONOR.
THOSE ARE REAL NUMBERS. I WANTED TO SHARE A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF HOW WE'RE TRYING TO DO BETTER BY NUECES COUNTY.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TODAY. >> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU, GUYS, FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. REALLY APPRECIATE THE POPULATION WITH YOU WORK WITH BUT I'M A DONOR MYSELF.
I HAVE MY CARD IN MY WALLET. YOU KNOW.
AND MY FAMILY KNOWS THAT. MY CHILDREN KNOW THAT TOO.
JUST WHATEVER I HAVE LEFT I GUESS ANYBODY ELSE CAN HAVE IF IT'S ANY GOOD BUT SOMETHING HAS TO BE GOOD FOR SOMEBODY RIGHT.
FBI IT'S JUST PART OF IT. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT IF YOU CAN'T USE IT, LET SOMEBODY ELSE USE IT RIGHT AND THIS IS HOW YOU CAN SAVE LIVES. SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING I CAN DO FOR YOU ALWAYS GLAD TO TALK TO A GROUP OR SOMETHING BUT I'M A TRUE BELIEVER AND I'M REALLY BELIEVE IN DONATING WHATEVER YOU CAN DONATE AT THE TIME OF DEATH. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND CONTINUE WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP ON
WORKING. >> AND I JUST WANT TO FINISH BY SAYING IT IS BECAUSE OF YOU GUYS THAT WE ARE DOING BETTER.
YOU MAY NOT SEE IT IMMEDIATELY BUT YOU GUYS HAVE MADE SOME RECENT CHOICES IN THE PAST 24 MONTHS THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THAT SO WORKING WITH DR. FAYINGEN AND CANNON AND MR.
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MITCHELL ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN MOVE THIS MISSION ALONG SO I WANT TO SAY THAT THINGS ARE GOING WELL AND WE'RE HAVING REAL>> THERE ARE SOME THINGS HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GROW BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM HERE IN NUECES COUNTY I REMEMBER A TIME WHEN THERE WERE MORE FACILITIES THAN NOW SO TRYING TO DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER WITH WHAT WE HAVE.
>> SO YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS THROUGH THE MEDICAL EXAMINER ALONE SO THOSE THAT ARE IN THE HOSPITAL THEY DON'T NECESSARILY DEAL WITH EITHER ONE OF YOUR NETWORKS OR DO THEY?
AT THE BEGINNING OF THE REFERRAL PROCESS, AND LET ME JUST -- I'LL BE BRIEF. TAKE A STEP BACK.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DID AS A RESPONSE TO THE CRITICAL NEED FOR ORGANS AS THEY MAY HAVE MENTIONED, ABOUT 1% OF PEOPLE WILL EVEN DIE IN A MANNER WHERE THEY CAN BE AN ORGAN DONOR WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM TISSUE AND CORN I CAN'T DONATION. CMS IMPLEMENTED POLICIES REQUIRING ALL HOSPITALS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ORGAN AND TISSUE DONATION PROCESS. SO IF A PATIENT MEETS A CLINICAL TRIGGER TO BE REFERRED FOR ORGAN DONATION OR IF THEY EXPIRE IN A HOSPITAL HOSPITALS ARE REQUIRED TO REPORT THOSE DEATHS TO THEIR OPO AND ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE EYE AND TISSUE BANK OF THEIR CHOOSING TO BE ABLE TO GIVE FAMILIES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEIR LOVED ONES TO BE DONORS, AND FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE THEIR WISHES CARRIED OUT.
MOST OF WHAT WE DO STARTS AT THE HOSPITAL.
WHERE THE MEDICAL EXAMINER GETS INVOLVED IF THE PATIENT THAT'S BEING EVALUATED IF THEIR DEATH FALLS UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE MEDICAL EXAMINER, THAT -- WE NEED TO SPEAK WITH THE ME TO SEE WHAT ORGANS AND TISSUES CAN OR CANNOT BE RECOVERED BASED ON WHAT THE INVESTIGATION MIGHT NEED TO FIND.
SO IT'S MORE OF A COLLECTIVE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN HOSPITALS, ORGAN PROCUREMENT AGENCIES AND THE LOCAL MEDICAL EXAMINER IN
THAT COMMUNITY. >> ONE OF MY GUILTY PLEASURES WHEN I TRY TO UNWIND FROM COMMISSIONERS COURT IS WATCHING GRAYS ANATOMY AND THAT SHOW HIGHLIGHTS SO MUCH ABOUT TISSUE AND ORGAN TRANSPLANT. UNFLOIRNT WE HAD A MEMBER OF OUR CHURCH A FEW WEEKS AGO PASSED AND WAS MAINTAINED LONG ENOUGH AND TRANSPORTED TO DALLAS TO MAKE THE TRANSFER EASIER TO BRANCH OUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY BUT HE WAS ABLE TO SAVE COUNTLESS LIVES AND IT TAKES A LOT FOR ME NOT TO GET EMOTIONAL TO THINK ABOUT THAT BUT WHAT A BEAUTIFUL GIFT.
HE WAS A VETERAN. HE DESIGNATED THAT DIRECTIVE TO HIS FAMILY AND SO THE FACT THAT YOU ALL ARE HERE PROMOTING THAT I THINK IT'S CONTINUED TO PROMOTE AND CONTINUE TO JUST MAKE THE PUBLIC MORE AWARE OF THE IMPORTANCE THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO GIVE EVEN IN THE MOST DARK OF TIMES IN THEIR LIVES WHEN THEY'RE DEALT WITH THAT WITH FAMILY MEMBERS BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. APPRECIATE.
>> THANK YOU. AND I KNOW THAT DR. FAGAN IS ONLINE LISTENING AS WELL AS FOREST MITCHELL OUR DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS. I INVITE IF YOU WANT TO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, IF YOU'RE HERE JUST TO LISTEN AND BE SUPPORTIVE AS THEY SAY JUST GIVE ME THE THUMBS UP.
APPRECIATE THAT. JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND WE ARE BUILDING A FORENSIC INSTITUTE AND NOW EVIDENCE OF THAT FACT SO GRATEFUL FOR YOUR PRESENCE AND THE EDUCATION AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL SEND US WAYS THAT WE CAN BETTER PUBLIC MESSAGE. I THINK THAT'S RAY GOOD WAY WE CAN COB -- A GOOD WAY WE CAN CONTINUE TO HELP JUST LIKE WE HAVE THE BLOOD MOBILE HERE THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN MESSAGE TO ASSIST YOU. SO I THINK THAT'S MAYBE A GOOD WAY TO SAY MAYBE STOP BY OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE JUST RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. DROP OFF A CARD.
AND OFFER ANY LITERATURE THAT YOU MIGHT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE BACK AND AGAIN IN ORDER TO TRY TO GET EVERYBODY BACK TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO, I'M GOING TO SEE IF I'VE GOT EDWARD HERE.
EDWARD, YOU HAVE ITEM WITH IDA, AND ALSO J.J.
WE'LL CALL UPON -- GO AHEAD, MS. IDA.
YOU'VE GOTTEN UP. WE'D LIKE TO GET EDWARDS BACK TO INLAND PARKS AS WELL. BUT FIRST I'VE RECEIVED A COUPLE OF REQUESTS TO TABLE SOME ITEMS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SUPPORT FOR THAT. FIRST FROM THE AUDITOR -- FROM
[25. Discuss and consider approval of proposed 2023 Nueces County Holiday Calendar.]
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THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR'S OFFICE AND MANAGER, ITEM 25 IS NOT READY. THE CALENDAR, IS AT THAT>> FROM COMMISSION MAREZ. >> I'VE BEEN PRESENTED WITH INFORMATION. I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP.
IT MIGHT NEED TO COME BACK FOR NEXT MEETING BUT WE CAN GO OFF LINE AND TALK ABOUT IT AND THEN IF THERE'S NO -- IF I DON'T FIND ENOUGH REASON TO THEN I WOULD NOT WANT TO BRING IT BACK.
>> I CAN JUST HOLD UNTIL THE SECOND.
>> TABLE 25 FOR NOW. >> ALL RIGHT.
I'LL SECOND THAT OUT OF COURTESY UNTIL THE SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE
[20. Discuss and consider interlocal agreement with the City of Robstown to provide Fire and Emergency Rescue Services to citizens of Nueces County living in unincorporated areas not within the jurisdiction of an Emergency Service District or area not within the boundaries of any other city entities for FY 22/23.]
>> AYE. >> AND THEN ONE MORE, IT'S ITEM 20. AND COMMISSIONER MAREZ YOU ALSO ASKED ME TO HOLD WITH THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
>> I MAY HAVE MORE INFORMATION BUT APPARENTLY THE CITY COUNCIL MET LAST NIGHT OR I'M SORRY MONDAY NIGHT AND THEY MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE AGREEMENT SO I THINK THAT THE ATTORNEY NEEDS TO GO BACK
>> I'LL TAKE IT AS A MOTION TO TABLE AND I'LL SECOND.
[7. Discuss and consider funding of Coastal Parks Board approved proposal from Lockwood, Andrews, & Newnam (LAN) Engineering to update the Coastal Parks Master Plan and simultaneously create the Coastal Parks Capital Improvement Plan.]
>> AYE. >> NUMBER SEVEN NEEDS TO BE TABLED. I THINK WE ALREADY TABLED IT FOR
THE 16TH AND I DON'T KNOW -- >> THAT'S CORRECT.
WE NEED TO DEAL WITH NUMBER SEVEN FOR THE 16TH.
>> MOTION TO RETABLE NUMBER 7 TO THE 16TH
>> THAT'S THE COASTAL PARKS MASTER CLAN AND CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT PLAN >> IT WAS INITIALLY TABLED FOR
I THINK THEY ACCIDENTALLY -- WE --
>> ONLY THING I WOULD REMIND YOU IS I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD RECONSIDER TO THE SECOND. YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY GRANTS LOOKED AT IN A LOT OF THE COASTAL PLANS FROM GLO OR PARKS AND WILD LIFE UNLESS YOUR MANAGEMENT PLAN IS UPDATED SO MAYBE YOU COULD WORK WITH THE COURT MANAGER BUT IT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER TO WORK ON THE SECOND SO THAT THE GRANTS WHEN LOOKED AT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A MANAGEMENT PLAN COMING.
SO ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE.
>> THAT WAS TO IF 16TH. >> RIGHT.
YOU DON'T WANT IT DUE TO THE SECOND?
UNDERSTOOD ON ALL LEVELS. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM LET'S SEE ANY OTHER ONES HERE FOR -- OKAY. J.J.
WE'VE GOT ITEM NUMBER -- >> I'M SORRY, JUDGE.
NUMBER 11 AND 10, DO WE HAVE BACK UP INFORMATION ON THAT OR
WE HAVE LIVE PEOPLE HERE. >> WHICH SFWHUN.
>> HOLD ON ONE SECOND. LET ME DO MS. IDA'S FIRST.
[9. Discuss and consider funding the Nueces County Sunrise Pond Nature and Storytime Walking Trail Project at the Nueces County Keach Family Library and the Richard M. Borchard Fairgrounds with ARPA (Pct. 3) funds or CO Funds.]
AT THE TOP. OKAY. THANK YOU, CRYSTAL.
AND IT'S DISCUSSING CONSIDERING FUNDING IN THE NUECES COUNTY SUNRISE NATURE AND STORY TIME WALKING TRAIL PROJECT AT THE NUECES COUNTY PEACH COUNTY LIBRARY ARPA OR CO FUNDS.
AND YOU'VE GOT THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF YOU.
BUT WE'VE GOT MS. IDA TO WALK THROUGH IT ALONG WITH EDWARD.
TELL US ABOUT THIS PROJECT. >> YES AND WE HAVE A PRESENT
TAKES AS WELL. >> GOOD MORNING.
WE HAVE A GREAT PROJECT BEFORE YOU IN COLLABORATION WITH EDWARD AND ANNA AND COMMISSIONER MAREZ AND WE ALSO HAD THIS IS REGARDING OUR SUNRISE POND NATURE WALK AND A FEW YEARS AGO I THINK EDWARD HAD GOTTEN -- THEY WERE TRYING TO GET A GRANT AND IT DID NOT GO THROUGH BUT WE HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT FOR MANY YEARS BECAUSE WE HAVE A GREAT VENUE RIGHT OUTSIDE THE LIBRARY AND THIS CAME TO PLAY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN WE WERE HAVING -- ALSO WITH THE WELLS FARGO WHEN SHE WAS COMING TO THE LIBRARY TO DO FINANCIAL PLAN, THE KIDS AND PARENT AS AND ONE DAY SHE NEEDED THE STUDY ROOM BECAUSE SHE HAD PEOPLE COMING IN FROM OTHER LACE PLAYS AND NEEDED A ROOM TO MEET AWAY FROM THEIR OFFICE AND AFTER THE MEETING THEY WANTED A LITTLE TOUR AND SO THE PEOPLE WERE AT THE NATURE AND BEAUTY OF OUR BACK AREA BY THE POND AND TOLD US ABOUT WHAT THEY HAD.
THEIR NATURE WALKS AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALWAYS WANTED AND SO WHEN WE COLLABORATED AND TALKED TO THEM A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A PERFECT PROJECT THAT WE COULD WORK ON AND THE PERFECT PARTNERS MAKE A PERFECT MATCH AND WORKING TOGETHER WORK TOGETHER TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY, THE HEALTH, SHARING RESOURCES AND WALKS AND
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COMMUNITY HELP. MENTAL HEALTH, MENTAL CARE IMPROVEMENTS, LITERACY, LIBRARY PROGRAMS, THE FAIRGROUNDS.WE HAVE SEVERAL EVENTS AND BEFORE I CONTINUE I WANT TO TOUCH BASE ABOUT OUR EVENT THAT WE HAD LAST WEEK.
WE HAD OUR TRUNK OR TREAT ON WEDNESDAY AND WE HAD OVER 498 PEOPLE SHOW UP FOR THE EVENT AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TALKED TO EDWARD AFTER WE HAD THIS PROJECT ONGOING IS THAT WE ARE IN DIRE NEED OF PARKING. SO WHAT WE HAD TO DO ON WEDNESDAY IS THE DAY BEFORE WE HAD NOT COLLABORATED WITH THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET AT THE MALL AND OUR FAILURE WAS ALMOST GOING TO CAUSE US TO NOT HAVE OUR TRUNK OR TREAT AFTER WE HAD SEVERAL MONTHS OF PLANNING AND WE FINALLY GOT IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD COLLABORATE WITH US AND WE COULD CONTINUE WITH THE PROJECT BECAUSE THE SAME THING AS LAST YEAR, LAST YEAR WE HAD HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE, ALMOST 500 AND SO WE HAD A GREAT EVENT BUT THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE REALLY NEED IS MAYBE WE CAN TIE THIS IN AT STATE ONE OR PHASE ONE IS ALSO TIED IN PARKING. WE ONLY HAVE 35 PARKING SPACES AND SO WHEN YOU'VE GOT OVER 400 PEOPLE TRYING TO COME TO AN EVENT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE IT ALL THE TIME BUT WE DO THIS AT LEAST FOUR OR FIVE TIMES A YEAR WHEN WE HAVE BIG EVENTS AND WE'RE IN DPIER NEED OF PARKING. THAT'S AN ISSUE I WANTED TO BRING UP. BUT MORE AND MORE LOCAL LIBRARIES ARE WORKING WITH THEIR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENTS TO SUPPORT HEALTHY PLAY FITNESS ACCESS TO NATURE.
OUR HEALTHY COMMUNITIES ARE GROWING, COUNTIES AND PROVIDING THE FACILITIES TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE WHERE WE LIVE.
AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL EVENT PARTNERS FROM THE WIC PROGRAM, MENTAL HEALTH, ROB STONE HOUSING.
WE HAD COMMISSIONER MAREZ AND PRISCILLAAT THE EVENT AND 96% OF THE PARKS AND REC COLLABORATED TO ASSIST IN ADVANCING HEALTH, WELLNESS, NEEDS ON THE FLOOR RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY.
76 PART% OF OUR PARTNERS WITH COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS AND 72% PARTNER WITH LOCAL SCHOOLS TO SUPPORT HEALTH AND WELLNESS. AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT US AS LIBRARIANS HAVE DONE A LOT THE PAST FEW YEARS IS DO A LOT OF COLLABORATING. DO A LOT OF THE GARDENING, FAMILY PLACE, IS TO PROMOTE OUR HEALTH AND WELLNESS FOR THE STUDENTS IN OUR AREA. AND HEALTH HAPPENS IN LIBRARIES IS A PROGRAM THAT MAGNIFIES THE ROLE OF LIBRARIES AS KEY CONTRIBUTORS TO COMMUNITY HEALTH.
A RECENT IMLS STUDY SHOWS 30% OF LIBRARY COMPUTER USERS USE LIBRARY COMPUTERS AND SEEK ASSISTANCE FROM LIBRARIES AND HEALTH AND WELLNESS ISSUES INCLUDING ABOUT LEARNING ABOUT MEDICAL CONDITIONS, FINDING HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS AND ASSESSING INSURANCE OPTIONS. FACTORS OF AN EQUAL SYSTEM THE PLACE FACTOR ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THE EXTERNAL ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH A BUSINESS OPERATES SEX TRIMLY IMPORTANT RELATIVE TO OVERALL SUCCESS. AND WE FEEL THAT OUR AREA THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS A PERFECT AREA.
WE HAVE THE POND. WE HAVE THE AREA.
WE HAVE OUR VERANDA, COFFEE HOUSES, LIBRARIES, PLACES TO ALLOW ENTREPRENEURS AND REMOTE WORKERS AND SMALL BUSINESS TO INTERACT AND ACCIDENTAL COLLISIONS.
AND ESPECIALLY LIKE IN HIDALGO, HIDALGO COUNTY HAS AREAS FOR BIKING, TRAILING, AND NOW WE CAN ALSO COLLABORATE WITH PARKS AND WILD LIFE WHICH ANNA IS DOING.
THEY'RE TRYING TO GET A GRANT AS WELL TO HELP US OUT WITH SEVERAL PHASES THAT WE HAVE ONGOING. WE ARE STRONGER TOGETHER.
NUECES COUNTY LIBRARY, PUBLIC WORKS, THE GRANTS DEPARTMENT AND I GUESS I'LL HAVE EDWARD START TALKING ABOUT HIS BUDGET.
>> IDA SAID THIS IS A GLORIOUS DEPARTMENT AND IT AFFECTS A LOT OF PEOPLE. SO WHILE CONNIE IS BRINGING UP THE SCHEMATIC, IN 2009 WITH COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WE LOOKED AT THIS PROJECT. THIS WAS A CONNECT AT THISTY PROJECT DONE FROM TEXDOT. WE'RE TRYING TO CONNECT THE HIGHWAY SPLITS DOWN THE MIDDLE AND WE'RE TRYING TO CONNECT THE WALKWAY FROM THE COMMUNITY TO THE SO THE IDEA WAS THEY GET ACROSS THE HIGHWAY AND GET TO THE
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FAIRGROUNDS AND THEY CAN MOVE TO THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE THE OUTLET MALLS, WHETHER THE LIBRARY, WHETHER IT WAS GOING TO BE THE FAIRGROUNDS, OR JUST WALKING AROUND THE TRAILS. SO AS IDA SAID, THIS NEW COMPONENT THAT WE'RE ADDING WHICH IS THE STORY TIME FEATURE WE'VE WORKED WITH BEFORE. BEFORE YOU COMMISSIONERS YOU HAVE THE LEGEND IT IS THE LA LAYOUT.
SO THE AREA WE ARE LOOKING AT FOR THIS SPACE IS THE RED AREA.
SO -- >> IT'S NOT PART OF THE E-MAIL
ANY LONGER. >> IT'S ALL RIGHT, CONNIE, THANK YOU. WE'LL PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE.
SO ESSENTIALLY THAT IS GOING TO BE 700,000.
THAT IS INCLUDING THE STORY TIME AREA, THAT IS THE BOARDWALK, THAT'S THE LITTLE WORKOUT STATION.
SO WE WANTED TO INCLUDE ALL THE FACETS OF EVERYTHING WE DO.
THE PHYSICAL PLANT THERE AT THE FAIRGROUNDS IS OVER 500 ACRES.
AND YOU'VE EVER BEEN THERE NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE STOCK SHOWS BUT WE HAVE PONDS IN THE BACK THAT YOU CAN WALK AROUND.
IT IS A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL AREA.
AND THE EARLIER THIS YEAR, Y'ALL AGREED TO THE WITH RTA TO TAKEOVER AREA THERE. ONE OF THE PHASES COULD BE THAT WE WORK WITH THE RTA BECAUSE OF THEIR TRANSFER STATION AND INTERMODAL AREA THAT WE HAVE THEM HELP US PROVIDE SIDEWALKS TO MATCH INTO OUR LOCATION. SO THAT ALLOWS THEM TO GET BACK TO THE FAIRGROUNDS OR TO THE STRIP MALL OR TO THE LIBRARY AS ALL OR JUST TO WALK AND READ. SO THE STORYBOOK CONCEPT IS REALLY INTERESTING. WE HAVE THOSE BOOKS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO BE READY. THE IDEA IS GET PEOPLE OUT, GET THEM TO READ SO EVERY 20 FEET THERE MAY BE ANOTHER PAGE OF THE STORY. YOU'RE WALKING FROM ONE BOOK TO THE OTHER AND THE OTHER AND YOU ARE READING AS YOU GO ALONG.
YOU'RE GETTING GOOD EDUCATION AND --
>> EXERCISE. >> AND YOU ARE ADDRESSING THOSE NEEDS. IT'S PART OF THIS PROJECT WE'RE LOOKING AT VARIOUS FUNDING SOURCES NOT ONLY ARE WE ASKING FOR FUNDING, BUT GRANTS POSSIBILITY OF GRANTS, POSSIBILITY OF WORKING WITH THE RTA AND TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU.
AND COMMISSIONER, I WILL YIELD TO YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT. ANY TOTES HERE? ANY -- ANY THOUGHTS HERE?
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? >> IDA MENTIONED A LOT AS FAR AS USAGE. WE HAVE -- WE CONSTANTLY HAVE BIG DRAWS AND EVENTS NOT ONLY IN THE LIBRARY BUT THE ADJACENT FAIRGROUNDS AND I THINK MAKES EXCELLENT SENSE OF USE THIS WATER FEATURE WE HAVE. NOW THAT THE WEATHER IS GETTING GOOD YOU WANT TO GET OUT ON THE EASTERN DECK, EASTERN SIDE OF THE LIBRARY THAT IS FACING THE WATER.
AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL. AND LIKE I SAID WHEN THE WEATHER IS NICE IT FEELS GOOD TO BE OUTSIDE.
I THINK THIS WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT ADDITION AND COMPLIMENTS THE USAGE THAT WE HAVE AND CONTINUES FUTURE USAGE FOR THE LIBRARY AREA AND ALSO TO THE FAIRGROUNDS ITSELF.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS. IT WAS PLANS HAVE BEEN ENVISIONED FOR MANY YEARS IT WOULD BE NICE TO MAKE IT COME THROUGH AND UTILIZE EXISTING OR POTENTIAL FUNDING WE CAN HAVE PUT TOGETHER LIKE EDWARD AND IDA MENTIONED.
AND MANY RESIDENTS FROM HIS PART OF THE COUNTY PARTICIPATE AND GO THERE IN-PERSON. A LOT OF HOME SCHOOL GROUPS THAT ARE THERE THAT MEET BEFORE COVID EVERY TIME I WOULD GO OVER IT SEEMED LIKE THE HOME SCHOOLERS WERE THERE PARTICIPATING IN A LEARNING EVENT 0 OR OUTDOOR ACTIVITY.
I THINK THE USAGE WOULD BE GREAT AND JUST ASK FOR THE COURT'S SUPPORT SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.
AND LIKE I SAID, UTILIZE THE FUND GZ I HAVE AND OBVIOUSLY THAT MEANS WE CAN ACCESS OTHER FUNDING OUTSIDE THAT DOESN'T IMPACT THE COUNTY DIRECTLY I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND A
GOOD USE OF OUR TAX DOLLARS. >> JOE, WHAT ARE YOU ASKING FOR TODAY? I SAW THE ARPA FUNDS, ARE YOU --
>> SO, SEEKING I KNOW THERE'S ARPA FUNDS THAT WE CAN ALLOCATE.
I WANT TO ALLOCATE LIKE I SAID I KNOW WE WHEN WE MET TO GIVE BACK STORY. COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ WAS THERE WITH US, WE TALKED ABOUT THERE IS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY VMENT SO I THINK THIS IS TO GET US STARTED.
IF WE HAD TO PUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT WE CAN.
MY HOPE IS THERE IS POTENTIAL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT THERE
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ARE DEADLINES OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS, SO IT WOULD BE NICE TO TRY TO ACCESS THAT MONEY.BUT I WANT TO FUND IT. I DON'T WANT TO SAY 100% IF WE CAN GET ASSISTANCE THAT WOULD BE GREAT NOT TO UTILIZE ALL MY FUNDING ON THAT. I WANT TO MAKE THIS PROJECT HAPPEN. JUST WANT OBVIOUSLY Y'ALL'S SUPPORT ON THAT. AND IF WE CAN GET OTHER FUNDING TO COME IN OFFSET THAT, THEN I CAN END UP RECOUPING OR NOT HAVING TO UTILIZE ALL THE FUNDING THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO COMMIT TO HAVE THIS PROJECT COMPLETE.
>> ARE YOU GOING TO MOVE YOUR ARPA MONEY TODAY AND THEN WITH UN-- IF -- I'M ASKING HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT.
>> AND THAT QUESTION -- >> EVERYONE CAN HELP US AND SINCE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING SOMEONE TO HELP GUIDE US HERE INTERNALLY AND ALSO WITH HAGERTY I HOPE THEY CAN CONTINUE TO HELP US UNTIL WE HAVE THAT TRANSITION INTERNALLY TO WORK THROUGH THAT. WE COUNT ON IA TO HELP US AND EVERYONE ON THE TEAM TO HELP ME FIGURE THAT OUT.
WE WANTED TO GET -- SINCE 2009, KIND OF WANTED TO GET THIS GOING, AND ESPECIALLY SINCE WE WERE ALL TALKING ABOUT THE SAME TIME AS FAR AS WHAT CAN WE DO AND WE JUST EDWARD WITH HIS WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE SAID WE HAVE PLANS LITERALLY DUSTED THEM OFF AND BROUGHT THEM TO US. I WOULD LIKE FOR THIS TODAY TO GET LIKE I SAID THE COURT'S BLESSING TO MOVE FORWARD.
IF WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND ALLOCATE A SPECIFIC AMOUNT, RECOMMEND IT TO ME AND I WILL DO IT TODAY.
THIS IS MORE THIS IS OUR PLAN LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND HIT THE NEXT FEW STEPS NEXT SEVERAL MEETINGS I'M ALL FOR THAT, TOO.
>> I'LL TAKE IT I APPRECIATE THAT HELP.
COMMISSIONER WHAT DO YOU THINK? COMMISSIONER, I'VE GOT A QUESTION. THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONER, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO AS FAR AS YOUR ALLOCATIONS FROM ARPA AND THEN THAT MIGHT ALLOW THE REST OF US TO SEE HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. WE'VE ALREADY HAVE A POLICY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADHERE TO. THERE'S CO FUNDS FROM 21.
EACH OF US HAVE THEM. AND THEN THERE IS MONEY FROM ARPA AND EACH OF US HAVE THAT. I WILL REMIND THE COURT WE NEED TO DO CLEAN UP BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE NOT OTHER WAYS WE -- YOU GOT TO GET AN AGENDA ITEM TO CLEAN THAT UP SO YOU DON'T HAVE CONFLICTING ALLOCATIONS.
ON THIS ONE, IT IS A $2 MILLION ALL IN EDWARD.
BUT TO GET IT STARTED, IT SEEMS THAT YOU CAN REALLY GET STARTED PROBABLY WITH ENGINEERING AND DESIGN AT 200.
TOPO, IN OTHER WORDS IF YOU DO KIND OF THE HOW DO I GET GOING? YOU HAVE TO DO THE 300. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE AT LEAST ANOTHER 700 TO DO A LOT OF THE BEGINNINGS OF THE WORK.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I AM HAPPY TO ASSIST.
SO HOW DO YOU WANT TO -- WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO CONSIDER THE FUNDING OF ALL OF THE PRELIMINARY
ENGINEERING DESIGN AT THIS TIME? >> ABSOLUTELY.
DEFINITELY WANT TO GET THE ENGINING AND DESIGN AND SURVEYING FUNDED GOING AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND MAYBE THAT HELPS US HAVE A BETTER PICTURE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE FUNDING.
I'M COMMITTED TO -- NOT FULLY FUNDING THAT IS A LOT
TO PUT. >> DO YOU WANT TO DO ARPA?
>> WELL, I HAVE SOME PLANS FOR ARPA.
I WOULD LIKE TO EXHAUST MY OLD CO'S BECAUSE I KNOW WE ALL NEED TO CONTINUE TO GET THOSE OUT OF THE WAY AND WHATEVER IS LEFT,
THEN UTILIZE ARPA FUNDING. >> JOHN, YOU THINK THIS CAN BE
DONE IN A PHASED. >> DEFINITELY.
THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WAS PHASE WORK.
IT IS NOT LIKE WE WANT TO DO IT ALL.
AND THAT IS WHY IT'S LINED OUT THE WAY IT IS.
PHASE ONE, THAT IS WHAT I TOLD THEM.
I WANT TO MAKE IT IN CHUNKS SO IT'S EASIER TO FUND AND IF WE DON'T DO IT NOW MAYBE WITHIN A YEAR THERE IS ANOTHER FUNDING OPPORTUNITY. I WANT TO PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC AND THE COURT HEY I NEED Y'ALL'S SUPPORT IN GETTING PHASE ONE DONE ALONG WITH THE ADDITIONAL PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WHICH WOULD BE THE ENGINEERING, THE TOPO SURVEY AND THEN THE
ASSISTANCE IN THE CONSTRUCTION. >> IF WE DID THE 300 ENGINEERING, DESIGN, TOPO, BIDDING ASSISTANCE AND
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CONSTRUCTION PHASED SERVICES I'M CALLING IT 300, IT SAYS 291.IS THERE A A DESIRE ON THE COURT TO HAVE THAT SHARED WITH ARPA? OR WITH YOUR CO'S? BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS THE
FIRST STEP. >> THAT IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO. HOW MUCH DID JOHN WANT TO ALLOCATE FROM HIS ARPA FUNDS AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE REST
WOULD COME FROM? >> I WOULD LIKE TO PUT HALF OF
THE TOTAL CASE. >> YOU ARE GOING TO ALLOCATE A
LET'S TAKE THAT FIRST. BECAUSE THAT IS ARPA.
IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO PUT IN EXTRA WITH ARPA?
>> CAN WE DO HIS MOTION FIRST. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S ALL ARPA TOGETHER AND WE WILL MOVE TO THE CO'S.
>> WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE ARPA'S. >> ALL RIGHT.
LET'S CALL IT INDIVIDUAL ARPA FIRST.
FROM INDIVIDUAL ARPA FIRST, I'M GOING TO JUST TAKE ANOTHER BUCKET BECAUSE IT'S EASY IF YOU JUST PICK A BUDGET.
I WILL PUT FROM MY ARPA THE 237,600.
I CHOSE ONE. AND SO IF I DO THAT ONE, THAT'S $1,236,700 FROM INDIVIDUAL ARPA AND I WILL TAKE THAT AS A MOTION AND ASK IF THERE'S ANY OTHERS FROM ARPA INDIVIDUAL AT THIS
TIME? >> I HAVE TO LOOK WHAT I GOT,
FIRST. >> I WILL GET THERE, YEAH.
>> I AM THE SAME WAY, I SPOKE WITH EDWARD AND TOLD HIM DEPENDING HOW MINE LOOK I WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE ARPA SO YOU HAVE TO BACK OFF WHAT YOU PLEDGED. YOU PLEDGED ALL 4 MILLION TO DRAINAGE IN A MEETING WE HAD. BUT YOU CAN CHANGE THAT.
>> HE WANTED ME TO GIVE FOUR MILLION TO HILLTOP AND I SAID NO I HAVE PLANS FOR THE ARPA MONEY BUT NOT ALL FOUR MILLION.
I STILL NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT I WILL HAVE LEFT.
>> I THINK HE DID DIFFERENT THAN JAG.
>> NO, HE DID NOT. BUT YOU CAN CHANGE.
WHAT YOU HAVE PLEDGED -- >> GIVE ME THAT OPTION TO
>> I WANT TO SEE WHAT I HAVE TO CHANGE.
>> YOU HAVE $4 MILLION INDIVIDUALLY AND YOU PLEDGED IT ALL TO DRAINAGE BUT YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR MIND.
>> I TELL YOU WHAT JUDGE I WILL LEAVE IT AT DRAINAGE AND IF I HAVE ANYTHING LEFT I WILL WORK WITH JOHN.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LEFT FROM ARPA.
>> IF THEY DON'T USE IT ALL. >> RIGHT NOW THAT IS THE WAY IT LOOKS WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ALL THAT MONEY.
BUT WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT MAYBE WE'LL HAVE 100,000 BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO DO IT DIFFERENTLY.
I NEED TO GO BACK TO MY ENGINEER AND TELL ME EXACTLY HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK AND COST. I KNOW I HAVE THIS MUCH MONEY TO WORK WITH. I MIGHT NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO WORK WITH. BUT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND SAY YOU KNOW WHAT? I MIGHT HAVE 100,000 TO HELP SOMEBODY ELSE OUT THAT NEEDS HELP.
IF I WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT WE WERE GOING TO JUST GIVE EVERYBODY MONEY AWAY WITH NONPROFIT I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE SET ASIDE A MILLION DOLLARS OFF THE BAT.
BUT AT THAT TIME WE DIDN'T KNOW WE COULD DO THAT.
AND NOW WE'RE GIVING MONEY AWAY IN ALL KINDS OF DIRECTIONS.
I'M SAYING CHAIR HERNANDEZ AND MYSELF WE NEED TO LOOK AND MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE SHORT OF ANY MONEYS THAT WE'VE COMMITTED FROM THE ARPA FUNDS TO DO THE DRAINAGE.
BUT IF THERE ARE BECAUSE MAYBE SOMETHING IS NOT GOING TO WORK, COULD HAVE 500,000. COULD HAVE A MILLION.
I DON'T KNOW. BUT I THINK FOR US WE NEED TO COME BACK AND FOR US TO SAY NO YOU CAN'T DO IT.
THAT IS NOT TRUE THERE'S WAYS TO DO THINGS.
WE FIND WAYS TO DO A LOT OF THINGS WE SAY WE COULDN'T DO AND WE STILL DO THEM. I THINK THE THING RIGHT NOW I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ AND I AM IN THE SAME BOAT HE IS, WE'LL COME BACK AND DO IT AND CHANGE IT.
>> CO21 THOSE THEY NEED TO BE REMINDED THAT EACH COMMISSIONER HAS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF DOLLARS IN COUNTY -- CO'S, COUNTY CO'S FROM 2021. AND THEY NEED TO BE GIVEN -- THEY HAVE BEEN GIVE 10 MULTIPLE TIMES BUT GIVE THEM A NEW SET OF CO21 ALLOCATIONS. BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS THAT IF YOU HAVE ALREADY SPENT IT THEN YOUR 21S ARE GONE.
BUT IF YOU HAVE NOT, THAT IS ALSO A BUCKET OF DOLLARS THAT YOU CAN BUT, AGAIN WHAT IS ON THE RECORD, IS THAT THE AND WHAT
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THE PEOPLE ARE EXPECTING, IS THAT $4 MILLION AND $4 MILLION WERE USED FOR DRAINAGE AND IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THAT, THE PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THAT. SO THAT HAS TO BE DONE BY NEXT COURT. THAT NEEDS TO BE IN COURT NEXT TIME BUT HE DID IT WITH THE VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS.JUST TO CLEAN UP ON THAT. SO FOR NOW, IT IS A MILLION DOLLARS FROM ARPA FROM COMMISSIONER MAREZ AND THE 237600 FROM ARPA INDIVIDUALLY. AND COMMISSIONER MAREZ WILL YOU MAKE THAT MOTION? AND I WILL SECOND.
AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
ON THE COLLECTIVE ARPA COMMISSIONER CHESNEY WANTS US TO CONSIDER WHAT AMOUNT OF MONEY IF ANY WOULD YOU MAKE THAT MOTION FOR? $250,000?
>> IT SOUNDS -- >> THAT WOULD GET US TO THE 1.5.
>> I WAS GOING TO ASK HOW MUCH WE HAVE LEFT.
BECAUSE WE HAVE SPENT SOME OF IT AND I HAVE NOT SEEN A RUNNING TRACK RECORD BUT I THINK WE HAVE PLENTY.
SO WE HAVE $5 MILLION AND WE'VE DONE A COUPLE THREE THINGS AND I THAT IS FINE. THAT IS A GOOD NUMBER.
>> I WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION PUT ANOTHER $250,000 IN FROM THE COLLECTIVE ARPA AND ASK FOR A SECOND.
>> SECOND. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.
EDWARD YOU WILL HAVE TO DECIDE HOW THE DOLLARS GET ALLOCATED.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> AYE. >> APPROXIMATELY GETS YOU TO CLOSE TO 1.5 AND WHAT I'M HEARING THIS COURT SAY IS THEY'RE GOING TO GET EDUCATED AS TO WHAT THEY'VE GOT LEFT AND THEN THEY WILL COME BACK TO MAYBE MAKE THE SELF SIT UP OF THAT -- DEFICIT UP OF THE LAST HALF A MILLION THAT IS THERE. AND I HAVE CO'S AS WELL.
LET'S USE BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER TO GET THAT SOLIDIFIED AND THEN MAYBE YOU WILL SEE THAT -- BECAUSE THE BEST PROJECT IN THE WORLD IS A FULLY FUNDED PROJECT.
YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO BACKWARDS YOU WANT TO UTILIZE TODAY'S DOLLARS AND TODAY'S MONEY.
SO WE'LL WORK ON THAT. >> WHY CAN'T WE FULLY FUND IT
WITH THE ARPA FUNDS? >> YOU COULD I JUST MADE THE
MOTION. >> WHY CAN'T WE COME BACK AND SAY -- BUCKETS HERE AND THERE.
>> IT'S BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO MAKE A CONTRIBUTION.
>> I'M ASKING A QUESTION IS MAYBE I WILL GO BACK AND SAY I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, WHY CAN'T WE FULLY FUND IT FROM THE ARPA FUNDS AND DO AWAY WITH IT AND IT'S DONE.
>> IT CAN BE DONE. >> MAYBE WE NEED TO DO THAT SO
THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD. >> WELL, THAT WOULD --
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO USE ARPA FUNDS COMPLETELY AND
FUND THE WHOLE THING. >> I SECOND.
>> THE DEFICIT WE HAVE A MILLION HERE AND 237 HERE.
>> ANOTHER 507,000. >> ALL RIGHT.
SO IT WOULD BE THE REMAINDER EDWARD IF YOU WOULD NOT MIND DOING THE MATH AND GET TO GO TO THE CLERK.
IT WOULD BE THE REMAINDER OF THE TWO.
AND NOW YOU HAVE A FULLY FUNDED PROJECT CALLED SUNRISE POND NATURE AND STORY TIME WALKING TRAIL PROJECT AND THE CHILDREN ARE GOING TO GREATLY BENEFIT FROM THIS.
AND I KNOW THERE'S MORE TO DO FOR THE OTHER LIBRARY.
BUT THIS WILL BE THE WAY THAT WE CAN PAVE THE WAY.
>> AND IF WE COULD JUST GET THERESA TO UPDATE US WHERE THAT LEAVES US ON THE $5 MILLION THAT WE HAD.
>> I WILL TRY TO GET A REPORT AND BRING IT TO EVERYBODY.
>> DID WE VOTE ON THAT? >> ALL RIGHT.
AND THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THAT RIGHT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. IT IS AN AMENDMENT FROM THE LAST
>> AYE. >> JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS THANK YOU. IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD PROJECT.
>> IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT PROJECT.
>> JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS THIS IS OVERWHELMING.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. WE REALLY WORKED REALLY HARD WITH EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE COUNTY AND OUR PARTNERS ESPECIALLY THE INLAND PARKS AND PUBLIC WORKS AND EVERY DEPARTMENT THERE IS ALWAYS A PROJECT WE DON'T HAVE ONE DEPARTMENT FROM OUR COUNTY THAT ALWAYS HELPS US OUT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> IT IS A JEWEL.
>> IDA? DID YOU GET HELP FROM JASON WITH
THE TRANSPORTING PEOPLE? >> WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEM ONLY FROM 15 TO 5 TO 6:00 P.M. AND THEY HAD TO STAY BECAUSE THE
PEOPLE WOULD NOT LEAVE. >> MY CONCERN WAS THE ELDERLY
AND THE HANDICAPPED. >> AND I THANKED HIM HE WAS THERE AND WE WERE VERY, VERY FORTUNATE THAT HE WAS ABLE TO HELP US UNTIL 6:45. WE DIDN'T GET OUT OF THERE UNTIL
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AFTER 7:30. >> IT IS A GREAT PROJECT.
SUPER. AND LET'S SEE, JJ I WILL CALL UPON YOU NEXT. EDWARD DON'T LEAVE BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIELD OF HONOR IF YOU DON'T MIND.
[10. Discuss and consider funding for Field of Honor.]
I KNOW YOU PROBABLY WANT TO CELEBRATE THAT.IT'S ITEM 10 AND IT WILL MAKE SURE THAT JJ IS OUT THE DOOR AS WELL. THE FIELD OF HONOR GIVE US THE BACKGROUND AND THERE IS A CONSIDERATION TODAY.
>> NUECES COUNTY IS GEARING UP TO HOST THE SECOND ANNUAL FIELD OF HONOR. THE CEREMONY IS NOVEMBER 11TH, 2022 AT 4:30 P.M., 1630 -- OUR HOPE IS TO FLY A THOUSAND FLAGS FOR A THOUSAND MILITARY VETERANS AND ACTIVE-DUTY SERVICE MEMBERS IN THE SHAPE OF A CROSS LIKE LAST YEAR.
IF YOU RECALL LAST YEAR'S EVENT WAS EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL AND WE'RE PLANNING TO MAKE THIS EVENT BETTER.
DURING THE CEREMONY WE PLAN TO HAVE A MILITARY DISPLAY WHICH CLOUDS UMVIES AND MILITARY VEHICLES.
WE WILL HAVE A COAST GUARD FLYOVER WITH THE ARMY AS WELL.
FLOWER ABOVE ROTC WILL HAVE A DRILL TEAM PERFORMING.
A BAGPIPE PLAYER A DJ AND SO MUCH MORE.
WE ARE, HOWEVER, LOOKING FOR FINANCIAL SUPPORT IF THE COURT IS WILLING TO HELP WE WOULD UTILIZE THE FUNDS TO BUILD A FIELD AND EVENT AND WE CAN RECOGNIZE THE VENDORS IN NUECES COUNTY WITH THE AMERICAN FLAG EACH SPONSORSHIP IS $50 WITH THE PROCEEDS GOING BACK TO NONPROFIT VETERAN ORGANIZATIONS.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC LIBRARY AND THEY ARE ONBOARD. SO ANY SUPPORT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. AND WE LEAVE IT UP TO THE COURT
>> AND WHAT IS THE TOTAL NEEDED? >> IT'S -- WHAT WE DID WE HAVE 120 ACCORDING TO HR, 120 NUECES COUNTY EMPLOYEES THAT ARE VETERANS.
WHAT WE LIKE TO DO IS ENSURE THAT EVERY EMPLOYEE HAS A FLAG.
>> WHAT WAS THE COST? >> IT'S 50.
>> IT'S $6,000. WE ALL DID IT EQUALLY.
WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT THAT WAY BUT THAT IS HOW WE DID IT.
>> YOU NEED $6,000? >> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> I WILL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT FROM MY PRECINCT FUNDS FOR SURE.
>> CAN WE DO IT EQUALLY? >> WHATEVER.
>> WE WOULD LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT A PERMANENT SPOT.
THIS IS PERFECT OPPORTUNITY. WE'VE GOT THE TEMPORARY LIGHTS THAT ARE INSTALLED RIGHT NOW. SO THE TEMPORARY LIGHTS WE'VE GOT UTILITIES AT ROBSTOWN ARE HELPING US OUT WITH THEM RIGHT NOW. AND THE REASON I SAY TEMPORARY THEY ARE SOLAR BUT WHAT WE'RE PLANNING INTO THE FUTURE IS PUTTING ON THEM ON PEDESTRIAN STEM CELLS.
PEDESTALS. WE HAVEN'T DONE IT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE GOING TO GROW THE PLATFORM THEN WE WILL NEED ADDITIONAL LIGHTING AND THINGS INTO THE FUTURE.
SO FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION -- >> LET'S DO IT THAT WAY.
WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU ARE GOING TO NEED TO DO WHAT YOU JUST S
SAID? >> BECAUSE IF IT HELPS FOR US TO DO EQUALLY THE FLAGS ON ONE THING AND THEN COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IS WILLING TO STICK TO THE $6,000 I'M UNCERTAIN HOW
MUCH THE PEDESTALS COST. >> I CAN BRING BACK A NUMBER BUT
I DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT NOW. >> YOU ARE A SMART GUY, DO YOU HAVE LIKE NOT HOLD YOU AN ESTIMATE.
>> IT WOULD BE MORE THAN 10,000 BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NINE LIGHTS IF WE GROW OUT MAYBE FIVE TO 10,000 PER PEDESTAL IT DEPENDS HOW DEEP WE'RE GOING TO GO.
IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE $90,000. >> IF WE SAID LET'S SAY IT'S 100,000 FOR THAT PLUS THE FLAGS AND IF WE ALL TOOK 20,000 EACH
FROM OUR PRECINCT FUNDS, WILL. >> SPECIAL REVENUE.
>> OR ARPA, WHATEVER WORKS. THEN WE CAN DO THAT TODAY AND
>> I WOULD SAY I CAN SUPPORT THAT AS LONG AS WE GOT THE CONFIRMATION FROM SUBJECT WHICH I THINK WE WOULD FROM THERESA TO CONFIRM SPECIAL REVENUE THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
>> LIKE IT COULD BE CO'S. >> YES, IF THEY WERE TO BE AFFIXED THAT WOULD BE A PERMANENT LIGHTING.
THEN THAT CAN GO WITH CO21 AND WE CAN SPLIT IT EQUALLY.
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IF IT WAS AVAILABLE. >> AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY'S GOT LEFT I KNOW EVERYBODY WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS I WAS TRYING TO SAY LET'S GET IT DONE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP COMING BACK AND KNOCK IT OUT.
>> HOW ABOUT WE APPROVE IT SUBJECT TO AND IT COMES BACK IF
SOMETHING IS STRANGE. >> SUBJECT TO EVERYBODY'S AVAILABILITY TO PUT IN 20,000 FROM EITHER TO SAY.
>> EITHER. >> TO APPROVE 100,000 FOR FLAGS AND FOR THE FIELD OF HONOR, WITH EACH COMMISSIONER AND JUDGE PUTTING IN $20,000 FROM EITHER ARPA, CO21, OR PRECINCT FUNDS.
>> TO BE DESIGNATED BY THE INDIVIDUAL.
>> SECOND THE MOTION. >> I THINK THAT IS A GOOD PLAN.
>> YES, MA'AM, ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU WE APPRECIATE THAT.
>> LET'S GET IT DONE. I LOVE IT.
>> GOOD JOB. >> I HAD A QUICK QUESTION.
LAST YEAR PEOPLE TOOK THEIR FLAGS DO WE HAVE ANY LEFTOVER?
>> WE HAD MAYBE 10 LEFT. >> I WAS WONDERING.
THAT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW. >> 6 FOR THE FLAGS 94,000 FOR THE OTHER FINANCE YOU ARE SHORT COME BACK.
BUT THAT INCLUDES THE FLAGS AND THE PEDESTALS.
>> AND COMMISSIONERS YOU WILL GET TO WORK WITH THERESA TO MAKE SURE IT'S THE RIGHT DOLLARS FROM YOUR RIGHT ACCOUNT IF YOU VOTE YES. AND AND IF YOU DON'T, WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUTPOUR PORTION NATURALLY.
>> THANK YOU WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE?
NOW WORKING MY WAY BACK TO MAKING SURE WE TOOK CARE OF EVERYBODY. I KNOW WHEAT VETERANS COURT BUT WE ARE NOT EXPECTING THE JUDGE AT THIS TIME?
I WANT TO MAKE SURE. >> NUMBER 11.
>> JUDGE IS WHO I WAS SAYING? OK.
SO I THINK I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO THE TRI COUNTY DRAINAGE STUDY
[6. Discuss and consider setting a date for the Tesla Abatement Agreement to be considered or adopted by the Court, and directing County Manager to post notice under Chapter 312 of the Texas Tax Code of the Abatement Agreement hearing, and related matters.]
PLAN UNAND JOHN YOU ARE IN LUCK YOU WANTED TO HAVE NUMBER SIX TAKEN UP NOW WE CAN DO NUMBER SIX.AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THE TWDB IN JUST A MOMENT WHEN EVERYBODY ARRIVES. WE HAD SAID 11:30 FOR THEM AND THAT IS WHY THEY ARE ON THEIR WAY.
AND CAN SOMEONE ASK IF WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE ANYBODY FROM VETERAN'S COURT COME IF NOT WE CAN TAKE THAT UP QUICKLY.
JOHN VOHLS, WELCOME. ITEM 6 IS CONSIDERING A DATE AND THAT IS SETTING A DATE FOR THE TESLA ABATEMENT AGREEMENT TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE COURT AND DIRECTING THE MANAGER TO POST NOTICE UNDER THE TEXAS TAX CODE AT THE ABATEMENT HEARING AND RELATED MATTERS. WE SUGGESTED IF THIS WERE TO HAPPEN WHERE WE WOULD BE ASKED FOR AN ABATEMENT WE WOULD POST A DATE A NOTICE AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE THEIR INPUT TO BE CONSIDERED AND THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THIS AGENDA IS THAT CORRECT?
>> YES, MA'AM. I'M JOHN VOHLS I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE AS SERVING AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ROBSTOWN COMMISSION. AND TESLA IS ASKING FOR A 312 AND THEY HAVE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION TO THE COUNTY.
AND WE ARE LOOKING AND I THANK JENNY BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO CONNECT LAST WEEK AND THEY BASICALLY WORKED BACKWARDS FROM A DATE THAT WE THOUGHT MIGHT BE FEASIBLE.
AND JENNY CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG WAS IT DECEMBER THE 7TH WE
WERE GOING TO WORK BACK FROM? >> I BELIEVE SO.
LET ME PULL UP MY CALENDAR. >> YES.
>> THANK YOU. SO WE WERE GOING TO WORK BACK FROM DECEMBER THE 7TH AND TRY TO SOMEWHERE FIND A DATE WHEN WE CAN GET THIS IN THE NEWSPAPER TO MEET THE 30-DAY REQUIREMENT.
BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT IS THE FIRST MEETING DATE THAT Y'ALL HAVE IN DECEMBER WHICH IS THE 7TH.
>> YOU WANT TO SET IT FOR THE 7TH?
>> WE WANT TO SET IT WHEN YOU WOULD CONSIDER THE AGREEMENT.
>> IT HAS TO BE IN A REGULAR MEETING.
>> YES, MA'AM, NOT A SPECIAL MEETING.
>> THAT IS THE DATE THAT YOU HAVE LOOK AT AND THAT EVERYBODY HAS AGREED THAT IS THE REGULAR MEETING IT'S ON THE CALENDAR AND SO THERE IS A MOTION TO SET THE DATE FOR THE 7TH.
WOULD YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION AS TO --
FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL? >> WELL, YOU CAN HOLD IT AT THE SAME TIME AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE COURT I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT
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TO HOLD THE COURT OR AT LEAST A PUBLIC HEARING OUT AT THE FAIRGROUNDS. BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF REQUESTS FROM THE MAYOR AND A LOT OF FOLKS FROM THE ROBSTOWN AREA TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING OUT AT THE FAIRGROUNDS SO THAT A GREATER PERCENTAGE OF THE ROBSTOWN COMMUNITY COULD COME AND ATTEND. I KNOW THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE REINVESTMENT ZONE WAS HELD HERE AND IT WAS NOT NECESSARILY ATTENDED BY FOLKS FROM ROBSTOWN. SO THEY'VE ASKED TO REQUEST THAT THE COURT CONSIDER HOLDING THE PUBLIC HEARING OUT THERE.AND THAT MAY BE A DATE WHEN YOU HOLD IT WITH YOUR REGULAR
MEETING. >> THE CITY OF ROBSTOWN NEEDS TO
HAVE THEIR OWN HEARING? >> THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE JURISDICTION IT'S ALL THE COUNTY.
>> I DON'T THINK WE CAN HAVE A REGULAR MEETING OUTSIDE OF OUR COURT. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE A
PUBLIC HEARING ABSOLUTELY. >> RIGHT.
YOU COULD HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> WE COULD HAVE MULTIPLES. IT COULD BE DONE.
>> FOR THE 312, YES, SIR. >> THE 313 HAS BEEN VOTED UPON.
>> THAT IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S ABATEMENT OR PARTIAL VALUATION.
>> IF WE ONLY THING THAT IS BEING DISCUSSED IS THE DATE THAT THE AGREEMENT WOULD BE VOTED UPON AND THAT DAY WOULD BE
BUT, AS I MENTIONED YOU COULD HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING JUST YOU COULD HOLD IT ON THE SAME DATE AS THE COMMISSIONERS COURT.
UNFORTUNATELY YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO THERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING EARLY IN THE MORNING AND COME BACK HERE, TO HOLD YOUR REGULAR COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING IN YOUR REGULAR PLACE.
>> YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING OUTSIDE OF HERE?
>> YOU DO NOT. BUT IT'S BEEN REQUESTED BY FOLKS FROM THE ROBSTOWN COMMUNITY INCLUDING THE MAYOR OF ROBSTOWN.
THAT WAY MORE PARTICIPANTS FROM THE CITY OF ROBSTOWN AND THAT AREA CAN PARTICIPATE. AND AS YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, WHEN YOU GUYS HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE REINVESTMENT ZONE IT WAS NOT ATTENDED PIE FOLKS FROM ROBSTOWN.
THEY REQUESTED IT BE HELD THERE SO IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO GET TO. YOU WOULD HAVE COULD HOLD IT OVER THERE. THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO YOUR BUSINESS AND THEN COME HERE AND CONVENE YOUR ACTUAL
REGULAR MEETING. >> PUBLIC HEARING ON DECEMBER 6.
>> YOU CAN DO IT ON THE 6. YOU ARE RIGHT.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE A NIGHTMARE TO HAVE IT IN ROBSTOWN AND HELD DURING THE DAY AND THEN BRING IT HERE.
AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT LOGISTICS, I SUGGEST
WE DO IT ALL AT ONCE. >> YOU CAN DO IT ON ANOTHER DAY I'M TRYING TO BE CONSIDERATE OF YOUR SCHEDULES.
>> IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ANOTHER DAY.
>> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY STATED YOU WOULD DO IT ON THE 6TH.
>> THAT WOULD BE THE FRESHEST LIKE RIGHT BEFORE WE'RE GOING TO
VOTE FRESH IN OUR MINDS. >> THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.
>> I SUGGEST WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON DECEMBER 6 AT A TIME
CONVENIENT. >> WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT
>> BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE SUGGEST THAT TO THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR ON NOVEMBER SECOND WE CAN BRING ALL THAT UP.
AND I KNOW PEOPLE WILL SAY THAT MANY OF THEM WORK, AND SO WE MAY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU MIGHT RECOMMEND TO US TO HAVE IT
IN THE EVENING SO THAT -- >> I APOLOGIZE.
I INTERRUPTED YOU I APOLOGIZE. >> YES.
YOU WANT TO BE CONSIDERATE OF FOLKS' TIME ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE REQUESTING IT. MAYBE AN EVENING PUBLIC HEARING,
5:30, 6:30 MIGHT BE MORE. >> AND AGAIN WE HAVE NOT POSTED THAT SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT UP.
WE'RE JUST DISCUSSING THE CONCEPT.
WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS WE LIVE UP TO THE PROMISE THAT WE GIVE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY WHICH WE WOULD RIGHT, IF WE HAVE IT IN DECEMBER AND IT'S STILL OCTOBER THAT GIVES PEOPLE A LOT OF TIME TO PREPARE. AND THAT WE ALSO DO IT AT A TIME THAT IS SLENT. AND THAT WE ALLOW PEOPLE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE IT NOTICED. IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GOING ALONG
THE RIGHT DIRECTION HERE. >> YES, MA'AM.
>> BUT TODAY ALL WE'RE SAYING IS WE'LL MAKE THAT DECISION ON THE
TO DECEMBER THE 7TH TO CONSIDER THE AN AGREEMENT FOR 312.
>> GOT IT. >> I HAVE A QUESTION?
>> I THINK THE ITEM IS BROAD ENOUGH SAYS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER SETTING A DATE FOR THE ABATEMENT AGREEMENT TO ME IT'S BROUGHT ENOUGH TO WHERE WE CAN SET A HUB HEARING AND I THINK I MEAN, LIKE I THINK DECEMBER 6, AT 4:00 P.M. IF THAT IS OK WITH EVERYONE TO DO SO IT IS AT A TIME WHEN PEOPLE ARE NOT WORKING WITH GET
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THERE. I THINK WE OUGHT TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT AS LONG AS THIS IS A BROAD ENOUGH POSTING.>> WELL, THE AGENDA SAYS RELATED MATTERS.
IT'S PRETTY BROAD I THINK WE NEED TO KNOCK IT OUT.
>> I CAN CHECK SCHEDULES. I HAVE NOT CHECKED MY SCHEDULE
FOR THE 6TH. >> I'M SAYING WE CAN DO IT
TODAY. >> AND WE HAVE TO CHECK THE FAIRGROUNDS SCHEDULE AND I NEED TO CALL THE MAYOR OF ROBSTOWN AND MAKE SURE THAT IS OK. AND CALL THE MAYOR OF DRISCOLL.
THIS LOCATION IS NEITHER IN ROBSTOWN NOR IN DISCONTROL DRISCOLL. AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT DATE WOULD BE GOOD WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES OF TESLA.
THERE IS A LITTLE COORDINATION HERE THAT GOES ON.
WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT WE NOT RUSH THAT IS OUR PRELIMINARY THOUGHT AND MAYBE BY THE AFTERNOON WE CAN DO THAT.
LET ME SUGGEST WHEN YOU DON'T NOTICE IT AND IT'S THIS BIG IT IS A MISTAKE TO SAY THIS IS WHEN AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.
AND VOTE ON IT. THE PURPOSE OF THAT, MIKE, IS TO LET PEOPLE TELL US WHAT THEY THINK WE SHOULD DO, AND THEN WE MAKE A DECISION. MY WISH IS TO WAIT UNTIL NOVEMBER 2. BUT TELL THE WORLD AND SIGNAL ON NOVEMBER 2 WE WILL BE MAKING THE DECISIONS ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING THE LOCATION, THE TIMING, MAYBE THEY WANT MORE THAN ONE, RIGHT? I MEAN, MAYBE NOT. BUT THIS IS A BIG DECISION AND SO WHAT WE PROMISED WAS THAT WE WOULD KEEP IT OPEN.
I THINK THAT YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU COULD MAKE THAT DECISION.
BECAUSE IT SAYS RELATED MATTERS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A MISTAKE.
I THINK THE PUBLIC WOULD NOT PRECIOUS MAKING DECISIONS LIKE
THAT ON THE FLY. >> YOU HAVE TIME, JUDGE ON THE SECOND TO ESTABLISH THE DATE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
BUT TODAY FOR THE PURPOSES OF TIME --
IS THE DATE THAT YOU CONSIDER. >> THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM.
AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND I WORKED CLOSELY ON THAT AND JENNY CHIME IN IF I'M WRONG I THINK THAT DATE WAS THE EARLIEST DATE
GIVEN THE 30 DAYS WE NEED. >> THAT WOULD BE THE EARLIEST DATE AND REGARDING EXTRA PUBLIC MEETINGS ABOUT IT THAT IS WONDERFUL AND ABOVE THE FLOOR. BUT YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE DATE OF THE 7TH BECAUSE YOUR NOTICE OF 30 DAYS HERE IS ON 7TH.
>> YES. SO WE HAVE TO DO BOTH I LIKE THAT. BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU TWO BITES AT THE APPLE AND THAT IS ACTUALLY VERY HELPFUL.
>> IT IS A LOGISTICS OF WORKING THAT.
>> I AGREE WITH THE 7TH MAKING IT A PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING IF THERE IS ANYWAY WE CAN COORDINATE AND PUT JOHN TO WORK.
JUDGE I'M NOT TRYING TO RUSH IT BUT THE SOONER WE CAN GET IT SCHEDULED THE BETTER. AND TALK TO THE MAYOR AND THE MAYOR AND THE FAIRGROUNDS AND IF WE CAN GET IT SET TODAY, NO HARM NO FOUL. AND THAT WAY IT'S MORE NOTICE.
BUT IF WE CAN'T, SURE WE CAN DO IT ANOTHER TIME.
I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST TELL JOHN WHILE WE'RE IN HERE TALK TO THE MAYOR OF DRISCOLL AND ROBSTOWN AND ANYBODY ELSE THE JUDGE WANTS TO TALK TO I THINK THAT IS FAIR AND THE FAIRGROUNDS AND SEE IF IT'S AVAILABLE AND LET'S GET IT ON THE AGENDA, THE
MORE NOTICE WE GIVE PEOPLE, TOO. >> I LIKE THAT AND APPRECIATE THAT. AND IF YOU DON'T MIND MAYBE YOU CAN JUST DO NOTHING ON THIS ITEM RIGHT NOW.
I WILL MAKE PHONE CALLS AND I WILL COME BACK AND SAY HE IS ONBOARD, HE IS ONBOARD THE VENUE IS ONBOARD AND THEN YOU KNOW IF
THE 7TH WORKS OR NOT. >> THE 7TH IS THE COMMISSIONERS COURT IT WAS THE 6 THU WERE GOING TO INQUIRE ABOUT.
>> THE 6TH WOULD BE AN OVER AND ABOVE WHICH CAN BE ANYWHERE.
THE 7TH WOULD BE THE REGULAR COMMISSIONERS COURT AND I BELIEVE THAT IS WHERE MR. VOHLS WAS TALKING ABOUT DOING IT IN TWO SECTIONS IF PART NEEDED TO BE IN ROBSTOWN.
>> MY WISH IS TO DO BOTH. YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THE 6TH THAT IS DEDICATED TO THIS BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO GET A LOT OF PEOPLE. IT WILL TAKE HOURS.
AND IF IT DOESN'T, THEN THAT WOULD SHOCK ME.
I THINK THE 7TH IS THE PURPOSE OF COMPLYING WITH THE LAW THE 30 DAYS. AND IT GIVES THE SECOND BITE AT THE APPLE WHOEVER COULD NOT COME ON THE 6TH COULD COME ON THE 7TH. I'M HAPPY TO ADVANCE THE MOTION FOR DECEMBER 7TH TO TAKE UP THE ABATEMENT AND WHO MADE THAT MOTION? AND THEN THERE IS A SECOND ALSO ALREADY. SO WE CAN DO THAT AND WE CAN STILL COME BACK AND TACKLE HIS OTHER PART ABOUT THE HEARING.
>> WELL, AS MS. DORSEY SAID THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS TO BE ON THE
SAME DATE AS WELL AS THE -- >> WE'RE TRYING TO DO TWO, JOHN.
>> WE'RE DOING THE ABOVE AND BEYOND.
>> SO Y'ALL GOING TO SET THE DATE FOR THE 6TH AND 7TH FOR THE
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PUBLIC HEARING. >> WE'RE GOING TO SEND YOU TO FIND THE DRISCOLL MAYOR AND THE ROBSTOWN MAYOR AND THE FAIRGROUNDS TO GET THE DATE ON THE 6TH AND THERE'S BEEN A MOTION TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARING/AGENDA ITEM FOR THE 7TH AS WELL. WE'RE GOING TO DO BOTH.
WE NEED YOU TO DO WORK WHILE WE'RE SITTING HERE.
PLEASE. >> AND I WILL DO THIS.
>> DO YOU WANT TO PAUSE THIS ITEM?
>> NO, I WILL TAKE WHAT I KNOW WE GET ACCOMPLISHED WHICH IS THE DATE WHICH IS WHAT YOU NEED. YOU NEED THAT THE MOTION IS WE'LL TAKE IT UP ON DECEMBER 7TH.
AND GONE LESS MADE THAT GONZALES MADE THAT MOTION AND THE SECOND CAME FROM I DON'T REMEMBER WHO. HERNANDEZ SECOND AND ALL THOSE
IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> JUDGE, I NOTICED YOU HAVE AN ITEM FURTHER TO CLOSED SESSION RELATED TO THIS AGENDA ITEM.
IS THAT NOT NECESSARY ANYMORE? >> FOR THIS ONE, YOU MEAN?
>> THAT ONE IS STILL WE STILL NEED.
IF YOU NEED TO WE CAN GIVE YOU A TEXT MAYBE WHEN WE TAKE IT UP.
DO YOU WANT TO HANG AROUND THE DOWNTOWN AREA?
THERE IS A LOT OF REQUESTS. >> I'M HAPPY TO HANG AROUND.
>> I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT TO MANAGE THE REST OF THIS AGENDA WE HAVE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND I NEED TO TAKE CARE OF FOLKS THAT ARE HERE.
>> AND I WILL HOPEFULLY HAVE INFO FROM THE MAYORS AND THE
VENUE. >> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SAY WITHIN THE HOUR ONE HOUR WE CAN GO TO EXECUTIVE.
>> I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE. >> THANK YOU JUDGE, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. THAT ITEM PASSED?
>> IT DID. >> WONDERFUL, THANK YOU.
OK. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER
[3. Receive presentation on the Tri-County Drainage Master Plan Study, including Project Team’s recommendation of Preliminary Flood Risk Areas identified for further analysis.]
[4. Discuss and consider approval of official response to the public notice period for the Texas Water Development Board (TWDB) Region 13 Regional Flood Planning Group; discuss and consider request to include thirty-one (31) additional Flood Management Evaluations/Flood Mitigation Projects identified by the Tri-County Drainage Master Plan Study into the draft regional flood plan for the Nueces Basin.]
3 AND FOUR REALLY VERY MUCH RELATED AND WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS HERE TO HELP US MANAGE ITEM THREE AND FOUR.LET'S ANNOUNCE THE FIRST ONE IS THE PRESENTATION OF THE TR EYE COUNTY DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN STUDY INCLUDING THE RECOMMENDATION OF PRELIMINARY FLOOD RISK AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR FURTHER ANALYSIS. YOU ARE ABOUT TO GET VISUAL AIDS HERE. AND WELCOME SUSAN.
JAVIER WAS HERE EARLIER HE MAY BE WATCHING BUT IT IS THE WHOLE CREW. EXPERTS HAVE ARRIVED.
>> I HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS FOR NUMBER THREE.
WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT UP FIRST? >> THERE'S ONE THAT'S A LIGHT BLUE COVER PAGE AND IT SAYS 3 3.A.3.
THERE SHOULD BE TWO POWERPOINT PRESENTATIONS.
>> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND VISIT WITH YOU ALL TODAY. WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WE HAVE LOTS TO SHARE AS FAR AS AN UPDATE ON THIS REGIONAL DRAINAGE STUDY. I ALSO WANT TO INTRODUCE MEMBERS OF MY TEAM I'VE GOT ROBERT SCHULTZ WITH HAVE.
AND IVAN LUNA HERE REPRESENTING I.C.E.
AND LIKE I SAY IT'S BEEN A COMPLETE TEAM EFFORT AND I NOTICE WE'VE GOT NUECES COUNTY DRAINAGE DISTRICT TWO HERE TO MY LEFT. APPRECIATE YOU GUYS AS WELL.
YES, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED THIS FIRST AGENDA ITEM TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, IS JUST NOT TO TAKE ACTION TODAY BUT TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE AND TO GENERATE GOOD DISCUSSION.
AND WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU AT NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT OR THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO, IS COME BACK ON NOVEMBER 2 FOR
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Y'ALL TO TAKE ACTION AT THAT TIME.SO TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE JUST GOING THROUGH MY TEAM'S RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PRELIMINARY FLOOD RISK AREAS.
IDENTIFY FOR FURTHER ANALYSIS. AND THEN ALSO LIKE I SAY, WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU GUYS ON NOVEMBER 2 FOR APPROVAL.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND SO JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS A QUICK BACKGROUND OR UPDATE ON THE STUDY.
I KNOW MANY OF Y'ALL HAVE BEEN INVOLVED THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS. WE STARTED THIS BACK DECEMBER FIRST OF 2021 AND, OF COURSE, IT'S NOT QUITE A YEAR YET BUT WE'VE MADE CONSIDERABLE PROGRESS.
THE MAIN ITEM THAT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE ON THIS SLIDE AND I SHOWED THIS AT EACH OF THE PUBLIC MEETING WE'VE HAD WITH TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND WE HAVE FIVE OF THE MEETINGS REQUIRED THROUGH TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND WE'VE HAD THREE OF THE FIVE. BUT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE LAST BULLET ITEM. WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS STUDY AND WHY I NEED Y'ALL'S INPUT AND FEEDBACK AND MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, IS THAT THIS STUDY WILL BE A ROADMAP FOR THE COUNTY ALL THREE COUNTIES FOR THAT PART.
WITH THE NEXT STEP AS FAR AS APPLYING FOR GRANT FUNDING, FOR LOW INTEREST LOANS TO BE ABLE TO FINANCE THE DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS THAT COME OUT OF THIS STUDY. AND I REALLY JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE, AGAIN, THIS STUDY IS PLANNING ONLY AND IT'S HELPING YOU GUYS DEVELOP BASICALLY, A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT'S PLAN A CIP LIST FOR TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD THAT YOU CAN TAKE TO TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND THAT KIND OF DOVETAILS INTO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM WHICH I WILL ADDRESS THAT SEPARATELY.
BUT IT DEALS WITH REGION 13, THE REGIONAL FLOOD PLANNING PROCESS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE NUECES COUNTY ALL OF Y'ALL IN GOOD SHAPE AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO GO THAT NEXT STEP WHEN IT COMES TO TIME TO TO APPLY FOR FUNDING.
TO ACTUALLY DO THE ENGINEERING, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS STUDY IS JUST HIGH LEVEL PLANNING.
THE FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE FUND PLANNING FROM TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. NEXT SLIDE.
REALLY QUICK THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE SCOPE OF WORK AND THIS WAS DEVELOPED THROUGH GUIDANCE FROM TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD A FRIENDLY REMINDER THIS WAS WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN OUR GRANT APPLICATION. WE HAVE COMPLETED TO DATE THE FIRST FIVE BULLET ITEMS THE ONES IN BLUE AND THEN THAT TEAL COLOR AS WELL. ALL OF THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED TO DATE AND WE'RE NOW MOVING ON TO THE LAST THREE BULLET ITEMS WHICH ARE NOTED IN BLACK.
AND SO PART OF THE DISCUSSION FOR TODAY IS TO HELP GIVE OUR TEAM GUIDANCE ON FLOOD RISK AREAS THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON FOR DEVELOPING FLOOD MITIGATION SOLUTIONS AND THAT IS THE BULLET THAT'S THE THIRD ONE TO THE END. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE FIRST BLACK ONE THAT IS LISTED. THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED GUIDANCE TODAY SO WE CAN KEEP ON SCHEDULE AND SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AS FAR AS MAKING PROGRESS ON OUR STUDY.
JUST THIS SLIDE GIVES YOU A SUMMARY OF OUR TIMELINE.
WE'VE HAD AS I'VE MENTIONED WITH TEXAS WATER AND DEVELOPMENT BOARD WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE FIVE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
THE TRICOUNTY MEETINGS THAT YOU'VE ATTENDED OR YOUR ASSISTANTS THANK YOU FOR THAT, SO YOU KNOW WITH THESE MEETINGS WE'VE HAD THE FIRST THREE. THE THIRD WE JUST HAD RECENTLY ON SEPTEMBER 29TH. OUR FOURTH MEETING WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR EARLY FEBRUARY. THE FIFTH MEETING WILL BE IN LATE APRIL. AND THEN WE CONTRACTLY NEED TO SUBMIT THE DRAFT REPORT OUR FINAL DRAFT REPORT TO TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD FOR THEIR STAFF TO REVIEW AND THAT IS JUNE 2 OF 2023. TIME REPORT IS DUE TO THEM NO LATER THAN NOVEMBER 30TH. THIS IS CONTRACTLY LISTED BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD.
AND I SHARE THAT BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE STAY ON SCHEDULE AND WE HAVE A TIGHT SCHEDULE.
I KNOW THIS PROJECT HAS SEEMED LIKE WE'VE HAD SO MUCH TIME TO STUDY THIS AREA. BUT IT'S BEEN VERY TIGHT.
JUST WITH ALL OF THE WORK WE'VE HAD TO COMPLETE.
NEXT SLIDE. WE'VE DONE THE FIELD SURVEYING
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ALL OF THAT HAS TO TAKE PLACE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE STUDY.WE ALSO HAVE TEAMED WITH TEXAS A&M KINGSVILLE THEY HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL WE HAVE HAD 15 GRADUATE STUDENTS OUT OF THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED IN KIND SERVICE AND CONDUCTED SITE VISITS FOR US.
ALMOST 50 SITE VISITS. AND FROM THAT INFORMATION BY TEAM HAS BEEN ABLE TO BUILD THESE HYDRAULIC MODELS.
AND FROM THE MODELS WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO THEN LOOK AT HOW DIFFERENT RAIN EVENTS, STORM EVENS, HOW IT'S GOING TO THE DEPTH OF WATER HOW THE WATER IS GOING TO MOVE WITHIN, AGAIN, ENTIRE BATH AND BAY WATERSHED AND THE CREEK SOUTH CORPUS CHRISTI BAY WATERSHEDS. THE NEXT SLIDE.
AND THIS ONE REALLY QUICK. WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK, A LOT OF DATA COLLECTION AS Y'ALL KNOW WE'VE HAD FIVE I CALL THEM INDIVIDUAL SMALLER WORKSHOPS FOR DRAINAGE.
WE'VE HAD FIVE THERE'S BEEN ONE IN EACH PRECINCT.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR Y'ALL'S SUPPORT ON THAT.
AND THESE ARE JUST PHOTOS FROM SOME OF OUR RECENT MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD. THE NEXT SLIDE.
AND THIS SLIDE BEFORE WE REALLY GET INTO THE MAIN ITEMS I NEED YOUR FEEDBACK ON FOR DISCUSSION TODAY, I AGAIN, WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS TOOL WILL BE USED AS A ROADMAP FOR YOU GUYS.
IT WILL HELP Y'ALL WITH FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PLANNING.
YOU GUYS WILL HAVE COPIES YOU WILL HAVE THE MODELS YOURSELF AT END OF THIS STUDY EFFORT. YOUR COUNTY ENGINEER, FOLKS CAN GO IN AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AS NEEDED.
AND THEN MOST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS IS GOING TO HELP YOU GUYS WITH YOUR NEAR AND LONG-TERM PLANNING FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AS FAR AS PUTTING TOGETHER YOUR PROGRAM.
SO WITH THAT, THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD REQUIRES WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT 15 FLOOD RISK AREAS.
MY TEAM AND I WE HAVE COME UP FROM THE MODELS IDENTIFIED 31.
BUT OF THAT 31, WE NEED TO REALLY FOCUS ON 15 AS FAR AS FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROJECT. NOT THAT THE OTHER 16 AREN'T IMPORTANT, THEY WILL BE ON THE LIST.
ALL OF THIS INFORMATION ALL 31 WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE INCLUDED IN THE REGION 13 REGIONAL FLOOD PLAN.
FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS PROJECT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT BASICALLY, I WANT TO CALL IT LIKE A 20% DESIGN IS KIND OF THE LEVEL OF EFFORT OF WHAT OUR PROJECT DOES. IT REALLY DOES MORE OF LIKE THE INITIAL WE WILL BE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS FOR THOSE 15. LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT DETENTION BASINS, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTING LARGER CULVERTS, DOING DIFFERENT INLETS TO BE ABLE TO MOVE WATER.
WE ARE TAKING THOSE DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS AND MODELING THEM MY TEAM AND THEN WE WILL BE PUTTING COST ESTIMATES TOGETHER.
THAT IS THE LEVEL OF EFFORT THEN FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT TO REGION 13 AND TO NUECES COUNTY RIVER AUTHORITY AND HDR, THE FOLKS IN CHARGE OF REGION 13.
AND THEN FROM THAT INFORMATION THEN IT'S LIKE YOU'VE GOT THE 15 THAT WE CALL THEM FLOOD MITIGATION PROJECTS OR FMP'S.
HOURLIES WILL BE 31. BUT YOU WILL HAVE 15 THAT ARE WELL PUT TOGETHER OR WELL OUTLINED FOR PURPOSES FOR WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. AND SO QUICK THAT SLIDE RIGHT BEFORE, BEFORE I SHOW Y'ALL THE 31 FLOOD RISK AREAS, IN MY TEAM WHAT WE'VE REALLY WANTED TO RECOMMEND TO YOU GUYS JUST BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC, FROM WHAT WE'RE SEEING FROM THE MODELS WE'VE GOT HOURLIES OF 15 PLUS THE NEXT FIVE THAT MAY BE SHOULD BE ON THE LIST TO CONSIDER AS YOU ARE TRYING TO REALLY NARROW THIS DOWN. BUT I JUST WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW THIS IS THE CRITERIA THAT MY TEAM AND I WE HAD A WORKING SESSION, GOSH, IVAN AT Y'ALL'S OFFICE SEPTEMBER 9TH.
WE WERE THERE ALL DAY. THERE WAS LIKE A DOZEN OF US BETWEEN HALF, IVAN, I.C.E., MYSELF.
AND SO WE ESTABLISHED THIS CRITERIA AS FAR AS HOW WE HAVE DESIGNATED THESE FLOOD RISK AREAS HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE 31. WE ARE LOOKING AT AREAS WITH HIGH POPULATION. LOOKING AT AREAS THAT HAVE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AS FAR AS SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT AREAS WHERE WE KNEE THERE'S BEEN SUBSTANTIAL
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FLOODING THAT'S OCCURRED. THE NUMBER OF STRUCTURES THAT ARE IN AN AREA. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT AREAS THAT ARE PRIME FOR GROWTH. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT. AND I PUT AN ASTERISK ON THAT SLIDE FOR YOU GUYS. WE HAVE BEEN COORDINATING WITH IDA AND OTHERS. WE THINK WE HAVE THE LIST OF ALL OF THE ARPA PROJECTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE IDENTIFIED FOR YOUR PRECINCT. AND EVEN THOSE THAT YOU HAVE DISCRETIONARY FUNDS ALLOCATED FOR, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING TODAY IF WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE -- WE'RE ALL ONBOARD THAT WE HAVE Y'ALL'S LISTS OF WHICH PROJECTS YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE COVERED, WE WOULD LIKE TO THEN REMOVE THOSE FROM HOURLIES OF 15.JUST SO WE DON'T DUPLICATE EFFORTS.
THIS GIVES YOU THE LIST OF THE FULL 31 AREAS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AND WE CALL THEM FLOOD RISK AREAS.
I STARTED THIS PROCESS A MONTH AGO WITH TRYING TO MEET WITH MANY OF Y'ALL. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY THANK YOU SO MUCH WHEN WE CAME AND MET WITH YOU WE ORIGINALLY HAD 30 AND I WERE LIKE MAKE SURE THAT SANTA MARIA IS ON THE LIST AND WE'VE ADDED THAT AS 31. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HEAR FROM Y'ALL AND GET YOUR AREAS THAT ARE HIGH PRIORITY OR THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE ON THE LIST.
AND SO THE ONES IN GREEN REALLY QUICK, THOSE ARE THE 15 THAT MY TEAM AND I THAT WE'RE THINKING SHOULD BE ON Y'ALL'S LIST.
BUT, AGAIN, THIS IS Y'ALL'S STUDY.
WE WANT TO HEAR FROM Y'ALL. THE PUBLIC IF YOU CAN SEE, THE SECOND COLUMN TO THE RIGHT, AT THE SEPTEMBER 29TH PUBLIC MEETING THAT WE HAD RECENTLY, WE DID AN INTERACTIVE EXERCISE WITH THE PUBLIC. I HAD THE PUBLIC THEY EACH GOT 10 DOTS AND THEY GOT TO GO AROUND AND LOOK AT THE MAPS AND HELP US PRIORITIZE AREAS OF CONCERN TO THEM.
SO BASED ON JUST THAT VOTING EXERCISE, THAT KIND OF I WANT TO SAY THERE IS A NUMBER OF FACTORS THAT WEIGH-IN TO FINALIZING THIS LIST. BUT I FEEL LIKE IT IS A WONDERFUL EXERCISE JUST TO GET THE PUBLIC INVOLVED, HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, AND KNOW FROM THEM WHERE OUR AREAS OF CONCERN FOR THEM. SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THE PUBLIC AND OF COURSE LOOKING AT THE DATA WE'VE COLLECTED, GOSH WE'VE RECEIVED CONSIDERABLE INFORMATION SAY LIKE FROM MAYOR HOWARD WITH AGO AGUA DULCE.
GOSH, RONES UP TO, PETRONILA, GOODNESS, DRISCOLL.
ALL THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE PROVIDED US WITH REALLY HELPFUL INFORMATION. AND SO THE ONES THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, THOSE ARE KIND OF OUR WE CALL IT THE NEXT FIVE. SO IF THERE'S CERTAIN ONES ON THIS LIST IN GREEN, THAT YOU SAY OH, GOSH, I'VE GOT ARPA MONEY ALLOCATED FOR THIS MONEY OR I HAVE DISCRETIONARY FUNDS, THEN WE CAN REMOVE ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS OFF THE LIST AND MAYBE TAKE ONE FROM THE YELLOW. SO THAT'S GIVES YOU KIND OF A QUICK SNAPSHOT. I WANT TO QUICKLY SAY THE ONE PROJECT THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN ORANGE, THAT ONE WILL ALREADY BE TAKEN CARE OF BY OUR STUDY. JUST BECAUSE OF THE SCOPE OF WORK. IT'S MORE FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT AND WE HAD FOLKS FROM KINGS RANCH THAT ATTENDED OUR MEETING THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT SEDIMENTATION AND EROSION CONTROL AND THAT IS ALREADY GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
WE'VE TAKEN THAT OFF THE LIST AS FAR AS FROM OUR 15.
>> REAL QUICK, THE MAPS YOU Y'ALL HAVE GOTTEN THOSE GIVE YOU A SNAPSHOT A ZOOM IN AREA OF EACH OF THE 31.
COMMISSIONER I'M SORRY. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ POINTED THIS OUT ON THE LIST THE U.S. NAVAL BASE IS IN PRECINCT 2, IT
SHOULD BE IN PRECINCT 4. >> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING T THAT. OK.
THAT JUST IN A QUICK SNAPSHOT IS KIND OF WHERE MY TEAM AND I ARE AT. AND THEN JUST, AGAIN, SHARING WITH THE OVERALL PROJECT SCHEDULE WHAT WE WILL BE DOING MY TEAM AND I WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS BY NOVEMBER 2 SO THAT WE CAN STAY ON COURSE.
BECAUSE WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF WORK THAT HAS TO BE ACCOMPLISHED FOR THESE 15 AS FAR AS LOOKING AT DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS, MODELING
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THEM, BASICALLY DOING LIKE A 20% DESIGN.SO FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT COMPLETED, SO THAT WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO THE PUBLIC IN EARLY FEBRUARY, AGAIN, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE. I JUST WELCOME YOUR FEEDBACK.
>> SUSAN, WHAT I'VE DONE I CHOSE 16, 15, PLUS MY ONE ALTERNATE IN CASE THAT THROUGH CONSENSUS ONE RISES HIGHER TO ANOTHER I CAN JOIN IN ON THAT 15 OR 16 CAN CHANGE.
BUT WE DON'T NEED TO RANK THEM AMIDST THE 15, RIGHT?
>> THANK YOU FOR ASKING GREAT QUESTION.
WE DO NOT NEED TO RANK THEM. WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE
SO THAT IS THE ASK BETWEEN NOW AND REALLY IT IS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. AND WE NEED TO GET EVERYBODY TO CHOOSE THOSE 15 AND LIKE I SAID, I CHOSE -- I WANT TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION IT'S HARD WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THE LAST 15TH. I COULDN'T MAKE A DECISION SO I DECIDED TO CHOOSE 16 IN HOPES THAT MAYBE THROUGH COLLABORATION WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT. AT ANY RATE WHAT IS IMPORTANT HERE IS THAT WE DO KNOW THAT THROUGH CDBG MITIGATION WE KNOW THAT 15 MILLION IS COMING OUR WAY TO LMI AREAS WHICH ALL THESE REPRESENT EXCEPT FOR A FEW. BUT THEY ARE ALL.
SO MY THOUGHT IS WE'VE GOT TO GET AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH I.C.E., THERE IS A LOT OF PRELIMINARY WORK HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. AND WE'VE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS.
BUT WE NEED NOW, WE NEED NOW TO KNOW WHICH ONES WOULD BE BEST SUITED FOR THE 15 MILLION AND WE NEED TO BRING THOSE TO COURT ASAP. AND THEY NEED TO COME OFF THIS LIST TO MAKE WAY FOR THE NEXT ONE.
AND THAT SHOULD BE DONE BY NEXT COURT.
AND SO TO ME THAT IS AN ASK BASED UPON THIS PRESENTATION.
AND, AGAIN, IT SHOULD BE A WELCOME BECAUSE ONCE UPON A TIME, WE CAME WITH PROBABLY THREE TO COURT BEFORE THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDING. NOW WE KNOW WE DO.
AND WHEN I SAY 15 MILLION I NEED YOU TO BE CAUTIOUS BECAUSE 6% GOES BACK TO GRANT ADMINISTRATION.
IT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN 15. >> CAN I ASK, SUSAN ON THE INITIAL PRIORITIZATION YOU HAD THE DOT DEAL.
BUT SO AND YOU MAY HAVE SAID THIS AND I DIDN'T HEAR ON THIS PRIORITIZATION, IS THIS A CULMINATION OF YOUR TEAM'S PLUS THE DOTS? IS THIS A -- BECAUSE ALL THE WAY ON THE RIGHT COLUMN YOU HAVE THEM LISTED IN THE ORDER OF PRIORITY BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS JUST FOR THE DOTS? OR THAT WAS YOU AND THE DOTS? OR A COMBINATION? AND THE INPUT YOU GOT FROM US?
HOW DID THAT METRICS WORKOUT? >> I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ASKING THAT. YES, IT IS A COMBINATION OF ALL OF THOSE ITEMS. WE BASED IT OF COURSE ON THE DOTS WHERE WE RECEIVED HIGH NUMBER OF DOTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
AND OF COURSE, JUST TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW, WE HAD QUITE A FEW MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM THAT WERE AT THE DIFFERENT STATIONS TO HELP FACILITATE SO THAT FOLKS WOULDN'T COME UP AND MAYBE PUT ALL 10 DOTS ON ONE AREA. WE TRIED TO HELP THEM TO SPREAD IT OUT. BUT ALSO, TOO, AS FAR AS EVEN JUST THE RANKING OR THE PRIORITIZATION, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT FROM OUR TEAM AS WELL. AND SO IT IS A COMBINATION.
BECAUSE THERE'S SOME AS YOU CAN TELL WHERE THE NUMBER OF DOTS THERE IS A FEW THAT ALL RECEIVED LIKE TWO DOTS.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF PROJECTS. WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT BASED ON AGAIN AND THAT IS WHY WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE HANDOUTS THE MAPS THAT SHOW A ZOOM IN VIEW OF THOSE AREAS.
BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN SEE WE ARE AGAIN WE WENT BACK AND WE LOOKED AT EACH AREA CAREFULLY. AND WE DID THIS COLLABORATIVELY.
AGAIN. WE HAVE AWESOME TEAM HERE, I CALL US THE A TEAM. AND SO WE WENT BACK AND REALLY LOOKED TO SEE LIKE AREAS THAT YOU KNOW, WHERE WE WERE LIKE SHOULD WE PUT THIS ON THE LIST? SHOULD WE NOT? WE WERE TRYING TO GO BACK TO OUR CRITERIA THAT WE ESTABLISHED LIKE IF IT HAD HIGH POPULATION, WE KNEW THERE WERE A LOT OF STRUCTURES OR WE HAD GOTTEN FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC OR YOU
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GUYS WHERE YOU ARE LIKE, HEY, THIS AREA IS IMPORTANT.I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS. IT IS A COMBINATION OF ALL.
>> THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY
OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? >> WHAT FEEDBACK ARE YOU ASKING
FROM US? >> THE MAIN FEEDBACK BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER SECOND IS I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- TWO THINGS ACTUALLY COMMISSIONER: IF THERE'S ANY PROJECTS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN ESPECIALLY THAT ARE IN YOUR PRECINCT IF YOU KNOW OF GOSH, IF YOU HAVE DISCRETIONARY FUNDS ALREADY ALLOCATED FOR AREAS OR IF YOU HAVE ARPA FUNDING ALREADY ALLOCATED FOR THOSE AREAS, LET US KNOW.
AND THEN WE CAN TAKE THOSE OFF THE LIST.
AND IF THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT IS SAY LIKE IN YELLOW THAT IS IN YOUR PRECINCT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE IT WITH OR AS A GROUP, THAT YOU ALL AS A COURT THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO CHOOSE A DIFFERENT PROJECT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AFTER IS ONE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT DUPLICATING PROJECTS THAT ALREADY HAVE FUNDING. AND THE SECOND ITEM IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN NARROW THIS LIST DOWN TO 15 SO THAT WE CAN
MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEXT TASK. >> THE ONLY ONES I WAS FAMILIAR WITH ARE THE ONES THAT I CONTRACTED WITH.
AND GAVE YOU A LIST OF WHERE WE HAVE PROBLEMS. AND THEN Y'ALL ENDED UP SAYING THAT SOMETHING WASN'T ON THE WATERSHED. BROAD ACRES?
>> YES. BROAD ACRES IS LOCATED OUTSIDE OF OUR STUDY AREA. SO WE HAVE TO -- AND TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD WE CAN ONLY STUDY THESE WATERSHEDS THAT ARE IN THE APPLICATION.
>> WELL, I'M STILL UPSET BECAUSE Y'ALL SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME WHAT I WAS WANTING THE INFORMATION IT WAS ALREADY GOING TO BE DONE ON THE STUDY ON THE GRAND STUDY AND I COULD HAVE SAVED MY MONEY.
BUT ANYWAY THAT IS ANOTHER DEAL. SOME OF THIS AREAS I JUST TOOK OVER AND WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY RAIN FROM ME TO GO OUT THERE.
THE RENO ABOUT I LIST I GAVE YOU, WE WENT OUT THERE AND WE SAW WHERE IT WAS NEEDED. I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS. WE HAVEN'T ARE ANY RAIN.
SO WE'RE DEPENDING ON Y'ALL TO TELL US WHAT WE NEED.
I'M NOT AN ENGINEER. AND NEITHER ARE THE CITIZENS.
MAYBE YOU HAVE ONE OR TWO THAT MIGHT BE ENGINEERS.
BUT ALL I'M SAYING WE ARE DEPENDING ON YOU GUYS TO TELL US
WHAT WE NEED. >> WELL, AND I COMPLETELY AGREE.
AND THAT IS WHY WE PUT TOGETHER THE LIST OF 15 FOR Y'ALL AND THAT'S WHAT WE RECOMMEND. AND THEN IF FOR SOME REASON YOU ALREADY HAVE A PROJECT GOING ON IN AN AREA THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO COORDINATE WITH Y'ALL.
AND QUICK THIS IS THE SAME -- I DON'T WANT Y'ALL TO FEEL LIKE THIS IS A SURPRISE AS FAR AS SHARING THIS LIST.
THIS IS THE SAME INFORMATION AS FAR AS THE ORIGINAL LIST NOT THE RANKING BUT THE LIST ITSELF IS WHAT WE HAVE BROUGHT TO Y'ALL A MONTH AGO. WE HAD THE WORKSHOP ON SEPTEMBER 20TH AND ANYHOW WE JUST REALLY WELCOME YOUR FEEDBACK.
BUT IF THERE'S AREAS THAT WE'RE DUPLICATING PLEASE LET US KNOW.
BUT THE GREEN IS WHAT WE RECOMMEND AND IF FOR SOME REASON WE NEED TO REMOVE A PROJECT FROM THE GREEN, THAT'S WHY WE GAVE Y'ALL OUR NEXT FIVE AND WE RANK THEM IN THE ORDER THAT WE FEEL LIKE THEY SHOULD BE LOOKED AT IN THE YELLOW.
SO LIKE 16-20, THAT'S OUR TEAM. >> MA'AM WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU I DON'T HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IS NEEDED.
I DON'T HAVE KNOWLEDGE IF THERE'S BEEN MONEY ALLOCATED.
I WASN'T THE COMMISSIONER IN THOSE AREAS THEN AND I DON'T KNOW IN COMMISSIONER MAREZ HAS ANY MONEY IN NO THOSE AREAS AND I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HELP YOU. I WAS HOPING YOU WOULD HELP ME IDENTIFY WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE AND THEN WE CAN FIND OUT THERESA OR SOMEBODY IF THERE'S MONEY ALLOCATED TO THE AREAS AND THEN THEN I WOULD LIKE TO GET IT DONE.
BUT I MEAN I'M DEPENDING ON Y'ALL TO TELL ME WHAT WE NEED.
>> AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. YES.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW YOU IS THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE SEEN FROM OUR COMPUTER MODELS. THIS IS OUR ENGINEERING TECHNICAL EXPERTISE OF WHAT WE RECOMMEND FOR Y'ALL.
I DO HAVE YOUR LIST, COMMISSIONER.
AND I UNDERSTAND I KNOW IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'VE BEEN IN OFFICE A FULL YEAR. AND SO IT'S -- OR ABOUT A YEAR. IT'S JUST I WANT TO SAY THAT I
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PASSED ALONG THE LIST OF ARPA PROJECTS SO WE HAVE YOUR PROJECTS I'M TRYING TO THINK. WE HAVE COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ I THINK WE HAVE HIS LIST OF ARPA. AND COMMISSIONER MAREZ YOU'VE GIVEN US YOUR FEEDBACK. AND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, I THINK IF I HEARD RIGHT, I THINK Y'ALL APPROVED LAST WEEK 1.5 MILLION OUT OF ARPA FOR THAT'S WHERE I JUST WANT TO -->> I'M STILL WORKING ON HOW I'M GOING TO DO IT.
I'VE GOT SOME PRELIMINARY IDEAS AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
I MAY END UP PULLING AT LEASE ONE OF THESE OFF THE LIST BECAUSE I MAYBE ABLE TO DO IT. AND I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST. SO I'M TRYING TO GET THERE.
>> AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AND REALLY, JUST WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING UP COMMISSIONER, THAT IS WHAT COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ THAT IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING WHAT WE'RE AFTER.
WE ARE JUST TRYING TO HEAR FROM Y'ALL IF YOU ARE LIKE HEY, KEEP THAT ON THE LIST. OR OH, I HAVE MONEY FOR THIS.
YOU KNOW. >> AND PART OF MINE, SUSAN MAY BE, AND ONE I'VE WORKED ON THIS A LOT AND SO PART OF THIS MAY BE ONE MAY COME OFF BECAUSE A COUPLE OF OTHER ONES ARE BIGGER PROBLEMS AND IT MAY BE WE ARE ABLE TO KIND OF DO WORK AROUND THE AREAS THAT ARE ON MY LIST. SO I DON'T KNOW I'M JUST NOT SURE WHERE I'M GOING YET. TELL ME WHEN FOR SURE AGAIN THIS HAS TO BE SUBMITTED. SO I DON'T -- I'M NOT COMFORTABLE PULLING ANYTHING OFF TODAY AND IT IS NOT FOR LACK OF TRYING TO GET THERE. BUT I MEAN IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO GET THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TOGETHER. SO TELL ME WHEN IS MY ABSOLUTE DROP DEAD I HAVE TO TELL YOU IF I NEED TO PULL SOMETHING OFF?
>> IN FACT, I APPRECIATE YOUR CANDIDNESS IT WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE MY TEAM AND I FIRST WE WERE LIKE MAYBE WE CAN TAKE ACTION TODAY. NO, I KNOW THIS IS JUST FOR DISCUSSION. YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THE HARD AND FAST DECISION TODAY. BUT I THINK IF I HEARD CORRECTLY FROM IDA AND ANNA THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST FOR AGENDA MATERIALS I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE MAYBE EVERYTHING DECIDED BY, I THINK THIS FRIDAY OR NEXT TUESDAY? MAYBE WE HAVE ABOUT A WEEK OR SO IS MY GUESS.
BUT WE -- WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS LIST NOVEMBER 2. IF POSSIBLE.
>> LET ME ASK IT THIS WAY. SO JUDGE, LIKE, THE ONES IN GREEN ARE THE ONES THAT THE SUSAN'S TEAM HAS COME UP WITH
>> 15. SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS ASK EACH COMMISSIONER OR JUAN OR YOU OR WHOEVER AND MAYBE WE COULD GET TO 15 TODAY I DON'T WANT TO DELAY THIS ANY LONGER.
I THINK WE NEED TO ACT IF. >> WE NEED TO MOVE THIS ALONG.
AND TO MAKE THE POINT THAT YOU'RE MAKING, IS THAT THERE IS A TIMELINE. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW WE'VE ALL HAD THIS FOR A WHILE. AND SHE'S BEEN WAITING ON FEEDBACK. SO HERE'S THE CRUX OF IT.
WE KNOW THAT THERE'S 15 MILLION DOLLARS AVAILABLE TO OUR LMI AREA PERIOD. WITH CBDG MITT.
MY QUESTION IS TO THE COMMISSIONERS, WHAT PROJECTS WE KNOW AND I'VE ASKED I.C.E. BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY BROUGHT THESE PROJECTS THE LAST ROUND. SO YOU ARE NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL. PLEASE FORWARD THAT.
>> SO TELL ME HOW THE LMI IS GOING TO WORK?
ARE WE GOING TO DIVY THAT UP? >> WE GET TO MAKE THAT DECISION BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE LMI WORKS WHEREVER THERE IS A LOW LMI. IT'S DRISCOLL HAS THE HIGHEST
LMI IN THE STATE. >> IT MIGHT NOT WORK ON MINE.
>> THE INDEX IS THE HIGHEST. ONE OF THE LOWEST, MEDIAN INCOMES BUT IT RANKS ONE OF THE HIGHEST.
SO ROBSTOWN, BANQUETE, ALL OF THE AREAS WILL BE FAVORED, COMMISSIONER. WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU IS THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING AND NOT GETTING ANYTHING, THIS IS LIKE WHERE IT'S OPPOSITEVILLE. WE HAVE MONEY, WE'RE ASKING THE COURT TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHICH ONES CAN WE BRING FORTH.
YOU HAVE ABOUT A WEEK TO DO IT. AND ON NOVEMBER 2, WE NEED TO
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MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. THEY ARE ALREADY YOU WANT TO GO WITH THE SHOVEL READY ONES PERIOD.YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO BE DILLY-DALLYING ABOUT THIS ONE.
>> JUDGE, ON THESE PROJECTS, THE LMI MONEY IS SITTING
SOMEWHERE -- >> NOT WITH US YET BUT IT SHOULD
COME IN. >> ASSUMING THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, THEN I WOULD ASSUME THAT NONE OF MY PROJECTS ARE GOING TO FIT THE LMI AND I MAY BE WRONG BUT I WOULD THINK MAYBE SANTA
MARIA. >> THAT IS CORRECT WHY YOU WANT
TO ADVANCE YOURS UP HERE. >> AND MORE OF THE LMI MONEY IS GOING TO GO TO THE OTHER THREE COMMISSIONERS AND I WOULD POP ONE OF MY YELLOWS OR WHITES ON TO THE GREEN LIST IF WE KNEW
>> MY QUESTION IS WHY COULDN'T WE DO THAT TODAY?
>> I AGREE. I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I KNOW JJ IS NOT HERE. BUT NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, I.C.E., YOU KNOW WHICH PROJECTS THOSE ARE.
TIERRA GRANDE IS ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS.
I JUST DON'T HAVE IN FRONT OF ME THE DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THAT.
IN ORDER TO SAY OK I TAKE THAT ONE OFF THE LIST.
>> RIGHT. IT MAYBE ONLY ONE PROJECT THAT
GETS TAKEN OFF THE LIST. >> IF I WERE CONSTRUCTING THIS, I WOULD DO ONE FOR EACH OF THESE PRESTIBTS BECAUSE I CAN ASSURE
YOU. >> THEY WILL NOT NEED MORE THAN
$5 MILLION EACH? >> THAT IS WHAT I WOULD SAY I WOULD DO IT THAT WAY. AND THEY CAN RESOLVE IT IF THEY SAY MINE IS 4 AND GIVE YOU ANOTHER.
REMEMBER WATER KNOWS NO BOUNDARIES THIS IDEA OF WE'RE STICK TO GO INSIDE OF A PRECINCT IS A HA-HA IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S STAYING THERE YOU NEED EACH OTHER HERE.
BUT THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION IS ONE FROM EACH OF YOUR PRECINCTS THAT I.C.E. HELPS US IDENTIFY RIGHT NOW THAT WE TAKE OFF TO ADVANCE THREE OTHERS.
>> WE COULD LITERALLY PAUSE RIGHT NOW, AND LET THEM GO WORK ON THAT. BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD IF WE CAN. IN NOBODY IS COMFORTABLE OK.
BUT I'M READY TO PUSH IT FORWARD IF SUSAN AND I.C.E. AND JUAN AND WHOEVER CAN GO SIT DOWN AND FIGURE OUT BECAUSE I WOULD BE OK WITH THAT AS LONG AS WHAT I WOULD HOPE IS EVERYBODY WOULD SAY MAYBE A COUPLE OF MY PROJECTS CAN BE PUSHED ON SINCE I'M NOT GETTING THAT MONEY, AND THTHERE'S A COUPLE OF MINE THAT ARE YELLOW AND WHITE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO GREEN.
I'M STILL ONLY CAN MOVE ONE OFF. SO, YEAH, IF WE COULD DO THAT JUDGE, PAUSE AND LET THEM SIT DOWN AND SEE IF THEY CAN COME UP WITH THAT. IS THAT REASONABLE?
>> IT'S REASONABLE AND I CANLE IT YOU THAT --
>> WE MAY NOT WORK IT OUT. BUTTERTER I MEAN, TIERRA GRANDE THEY HAVE ALREADY HAVE COME TO COURT ONCE BEFORE WITH BACK UP AND INFORMATION AND PRESENTATION.
WE COULD ASK YOU TO PULL THOSE. DIDI YOU MIGHT HAVE THEM HANDY.
THEY WERE ALL BROUGHT FORTH LAST ROUND.
>> JUDGE, DOING WHAT YOU'RE CONSTRUCTING IF YOU SAID IF WE MADE A MOTION TO SAY THAT OF THE 15 MILLION DOLLARS THAT IS COMING IN LMI ONE $5 MILLION PROJECT IN EACH OF THE OTHER THREE PRECINCTS AND AS PART OF THAT MOTION MY TWO PROJECTS THAT AREN'T IN THE GREEN GET MOVED INTO GREEN? WOULD THAT BE A FAIR MOTION? I DON'T EITHER ONE OF MINE EQUAL $5 MILLION. SO I THINK IT IS A FAIR DISTRIBUTION. AND LET THEM SEE IF THEY CAN
WORK THAT OUT. >> AND I ALSO I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S ACTION WE CAN TAKE RIGHT NOW.
IF YOU WILL LOOK IT SAYS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE OFFICIAL RESPONSE AND THE PUBLIC NOTICE AND DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REQUESTS TO INCLUDE 31 ADDITIONAL FLOOD IMAGE MANAGEMENT FLOOD PROJECTS IDENTIFIED INTO THE DRAFT REGIONAL PLAN. WHY DON'T WE ACT ON THAT TODAY.
THAT SAYS IS ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU SEE ON HERE THEY'VE GOT TO BE A PART OF THE STATE-WIDE PLAN.
THAT'S A NO-BRAINER. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.
>> CAN WE FOCUS ON THAT AND THAT WAY WE KNOW THAT THOSE THESE THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE PROCESS, WILL ALL BE INCLUDED IN THE STATE'S PLAN. REMEMBER THE STATE'S GOT THEIR OWN PROJECT WORKING ON FLOOD MANAGEMENT.
AND THAT STUDY WE'RE A PART OF THE REGION 13 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ASK THE STATE OF TEXAS THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION FOR MONEY FOR ALL OF OUR FLOOD 13 PROJECTS.
INVEST VICE DO YOU WANT TRAVIS DO YOU WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.
>> THAT WOULD BE EXCELLENT JUDGE AND THAT IS AGENDA 3.A.4 THE
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NEXT ONE AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL 31 PROJECTS ARE ON THE SPREAD SHEET LIST ARE SUBMITTED TO YOU GUYS ALREADY SUBMITTED JUAN AND LJ Y'ALL SUBMITTED PROJECTS LAST FALL FOR REGION 13. AND THIS IS -- BECAUSE OF THE STUDY WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE 31.OF THE 31, 15 WILL BECOME FMP'S IS WHAT THEY CALL THEM, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE 20% LEVEL OF DESIGN.
THAT'S HOW WE WOULD CLASSIFY 15 OF THOSE AND THE OTHER 16 WILL BE CALLED FLOOD MANAGEMENT EVALUATIONS FME'S.
BUT ALL OF THIS, AGAIN, THE DEADLINE TO SUBMIT THIS IS OCTOBER 26. FOR REGION 13.
THAT'S WHY WE DEFINITELY TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT TODAY.
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO TRAVIS. >> CAN I ASK JUDGE, TO MAKE SURE. SOME OF THESE PROJECTS SUSAN BEFORE HE GOT HERE WAS LIKE WHEN IT SAYS CORPUS CHRISTI INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT OR U.S. NAVY BASE THOSE ARE AREAS, RIGHT? THE COUNTY DOESN'T OWN THOSE PROJECTS. SO THOSE ARE AREAS BECAUSE AND THE POINT OF THAT IS TO LIKE SOUTH PRAIRIE AND NOTTINGHAM ARE NOT COUNTY CONTROLLED ROADS YET BUT THOSE ARE AREAS OF WHICH ARE MAJOR PROBLEMS AND THAT'S OK TO HAVE THOSE ON THE LIST EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT QUOTE COUNTY ROADS?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. IN FACT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EXHIBITS THAT WE'VE GOT FOR YOU GUYS, THE ZOOMED IN VIEWS, SAY LIKE FOR THE NAVAL BASE OR THE AIRPORT, YOU WILL SEE THE RED CIRCLE ON THE MAPS AND AGAIN WE WERE TRYING TO CAPTURE THAT AREA
BUT NOT, YES. >> AND IT MIGHT BE WE HAVE TO WORK THERE OR TO DO SOMETHING WE MIGHT HAVE TO GET AN EASEMENT OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAYBE. SO OK.
BECAUSE WE CAN STILL PUT THOSE ON THE LIST THOUGH WE ARE NOT IN
TOTAL CONTROL OF THEM. >> REMEMBER.
WE'RE DOING IT FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY.
>> I JUST TO CLARIFY. >> AND IT'S PRIORITIZED IN ANY COLOR THEY ARE THERE BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GET -- HELP THE WHOLE WATERSHED BE UNDERSTOOD.
>> AND YOU KNOW REAL QUICK ON THOSE AREAS TWO SPECIFICALLY THAT ARE LISTED IN WHITE, WE DON'T HAVE THEM ON OUR LIST MAINLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE FLOODING BUT IT'S NOT AS SEVERE AS THESE OTHER AREAS. SO, AGAIN, WE WERE TRYING TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF STRUCTURES, LOOK AT THE POPULATION YOU KNOW, DENSITY OF POPULATION IN THESE AREAS.
, AGAIN, I MEAN THESE ARE ALL GREAT PROJECTS.
IT'S JUST WE WERE TRYING TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE 15 THAT WE FELT LIKE REALLY WERE JUST REALLY NEEDED AND EVALUATION
>> IF I MAY HAVE? >> TRAVIS WITH THE NUECES COUNTY RIVER AUTHORITY. I WILL HAVE MORE DETAIL IN THE REGIONAL PLAN ON THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM BUT FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS THE FME'S THE EVALUATIONS AND THE P'S ARE THE PROJECTS. ALL 31 WE WILL BE ABLE TO INCLUDE IN OUR PLAN. BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH SUSAN AND HER TEAM WE WANT TO GET AS MANY OF THEM IN THE FMP STAT FUSS YOU ARE GOING FOR STATE FUNDING IF IT IS AN FMP YOUR CHANCE OF GETTING FUNDED INCREASES. THAT IS THE GOAL IT WHICH ONES WE WANT TO GET FUNDING THROUGH THE STATE LEVEL.
>> RIGHT. AND THAT IS VERY, VERY
IMPORTANT. >> WHY DON'T I DO THIS.
IN HOUSEKEEPING HERE WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS PAUSE ON THE ACTUAL RECOMMENDATIONS ON ITEM 3 ON 3A3 BUT ON 3A4 LET'S HAVE A MOTION TO INCLUDE ALL 31 IN THE --
>> SO MOVED. >> THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIEDED WITH THE STUDY. AND I SECOND YOU WILL ALL THOSE
IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE.
>> WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE OFFICIAL RESPONSE THE PUBLIC NOTICE PERIOD THAT IS ALSO REQUIRED.
AND SUSAN THAT IS A 30-DAY NOTICE, 60-DAY NOTICE?
>> 60-DAY NOTICE PERIOD BUT THEY STARTED THAT A FEW MONTHS AGO AND THE DEADLINE IS OCTOBER 26. AND THAT, AGAIN, SO I'LL PUT TOGETHER AN OFFICIAL LETTER REQUEST ON Y'ALL'S BEHALF WITH THIS FULL LIST. AND WE'LL SEND THAT THEN TO TRAVIS TO NUECES COUNTY RIVER AUTHORITY AND COPYING HDR THE
CONSULTANT FOR REGION 13. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT OFFICIAL RESPONSE TO THE PUBLIC NOTICE PERIOD AS WELL ALL TO TEXAS WATER AND DEVELOPMENT BOARD REGARDING THE REGIONAL FLOOD PLANNING GROUP STUDYING REGION 13.
>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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>> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY AND JUDGE YOU ALL TALKED FOR THE LAST 30 MINUTES.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW THINGS HERE.
I'M GOING BACK -- >> WHICH ITEM.
>> ALL OF IT I'M MAKING A COMMENT HERE.
YOU KNOW, ONE FOR ONE, THIS MAP HERE, I REALLY DON'T AGREE WITH THE MAPS HERE. I MEAN I THINK THE MAPS HERE ARE ALREADY WE ALREADY KNEW ALL THE MAPS HERE.
SOME OF US HAVE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH.
WE KNOW THE FLOOD AREAS ARE. AND ALL THIS GREEN THAT YOU COME UP WITH BECAUSE PEOPLE PUT LITTLE PINS ON THERE.
SO TO ME, I EXPECT YOU KNOW AND I KNOW THAT FOUR YEARS AGO, ABOUT TOIR YEARS AGO, BEFORE THIS GRANT BEFORE WE HAD MONEY AND THERE WAS AN EXTENSIVE STUDY DONE FROM I.C.E. AND I ASKED THEM TO LOOK BECAUSE I THINK I NEED TO BRING IT BACK TO COURT.
AND THIS IS WHAT I THOUGHT YOUR A TEAM WAS GOING TO DO.
AND YOU DIDN'T DO IT. I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO TELL US LOOK, THIS IS TRICOUNTY AREA DRAINAGE.
THE WATER COMES FROM JIM WELLS OR IT COMES FROM CLAYBURG OR FROM WHEREVER HE I NEED TO KNOW FOR ME TO SAY THIS IS MY BEST AREAS AND I WANT TO WORK ON. I THINK YOU KNOW WHERE THE WATER IS COMING FROM. HOW MUCH WATER AM I GOING TO GET IN THOSE AREAS? AND NOT JUST WHEN IT RAINS BUT TWO DAYS LATER. BECAUSE WE GET THE WATER IN THE AREA DRISCOLL TWO DAYINGS LATER WE GET MORE WATER THAT IS COMING DOWN. I THOUGHT THE STUDY THAT YOU GUYS WERE DOING WE WERE DOING, IS THE FACT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO DRAW AND DO A SURVEY TELL US THIS IS WHERE IT COMES FROM.
THIS IS WHERE IT GOES TO. THIS IS HOW IT TRAVELS.
SO NOW TIERRA GRANDE THIS IS MY AREA, I'M JUST SURPRISED BECAUSE THE JUDGE DOESN'T RECOGNIZE ME WHEN SHE TALKS ABOUT TIERRA GRANDE I'VE BEEN WORKING ON TIERRA GRANDE FOR YEARS.
FOR YEARS. AND PETRONILA FOR YEARS.
AT LEAST 12 YEARS, RIGHT? BUT YOU KNOW, FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO TELL ME WHAT I HAVE IN MY AREA AND WHAT I NEED, YOU KNOW REALLY MAKES ME FEEL KIND OF LIKE I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING HERE, RIGHT. JUDGE ONLY BEEN HERE THREE YEARS I'VE BEEN THRER 12, 13 YEARS. AND I KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN TIERRA GRANDE. I KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN PETRONILA ESTATES. I NEED WHAT WE NEED IN GOLDEN ACRES NON-BISHOP. AND I KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN BANQUETE. AND FOR I WENT TO YOUR MEETINGS AND BUT TO ME THE STUDY THAT JJ DID FOUR YEARS AGO IS TREMENDOUS. THAT STUDY WAS A GOOD STUDY IT WAS REALLY COVERS WHERE ALL THE AREAS COMING FROM WHERE IS THE WATER AND WHERE DOES IT HIT? WHERE DO WE STOP THE WATER? THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW. HOW DO WE THE STUDY TO ME IS HOW DO WE BLOCK THE WATER. WHAT DO WE STOP AND WHAT DO WE NEED. DON'T WAIT UNTIL IT COMES TO MY AREA. I EXPECTED THE STUDY TO SHOW US THE FACT THAT OK, THE WATER COMES FROM JIM WELLS.
OK NOW DO WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING IN BANQUETE, IN PETRONILA, TO BE ABLE TO ELIMINATE THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY GET FLOODED OUT THE WATER IN THEIR HOUSES.
THAT WAS MY VISION. MY PERSPECTIVE OF THIS BIG STUDY THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO. AND SPEND ALL THOSE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. AND THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD.
AND I JUST AND INFORMATION HERE IS WHAT INFORMATION WE'VE GIVEN YOU FROM THE EARLY DAYS. IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS THAG -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES YOU GUYS WALKED THE STREETS IN MY AREA. TALK TO THE PEOPLE AND SAID DO YOU REALLY FLOOD. I KNOW YOU EXPECT THEM TO COME TO THE MEETINGS BUT HOW MANY TIMES AFTER WE GAVE YOU THE AREAS HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU GONE OUT THERE AND SAY, DO YOU FLOOD HERE? HOW MANY TIMES HAVE BEEN BEEN OUT THERE IN GOLDEN ACRES? HOW MANY TIMES YOU KNOCKED ON DOORS AT PETRONILA ESTATES? THAT TO ME IS A SURVEY.
THAT TO ME IS A PLAN OF HOW DO WE ELIMINATE FLOODS.
HOW DO WE HE WILL ELIMINATE PEOPLE UNDERWATER.
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THIS IS WHAT I PROJECTED THE STUDY WOULD BE.SO MAYBE I WAS WRONG AND HOW THIS WAS GOING TO BE.
I DON'T DIDN'T THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A MEETING AND EVERYBODY COMES TO YOU AND YOU GIVE THEM PINS.
WHEN DO THEY GO OUT TO DO THIS. DO WE DO THE DRONES TO SEE WHEN IT RAINS WHERE THE WATER IS FLOWING FROM? AND I KNOW THAT AT ONE POINT WE GOT JJ HE HAD A PERFECT PRESENTATION I'M SURPRISED YOU DIDN'T HAVE IT WITH HIM.
HE DID AND CARLOS WAS ALSO THERE.
AND WE MADE FOR IT. WE MADE FOR IT.
AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A GRANT, WE PAID FOR IT.
THE BUDGET THAT I HAD. BECAUSE I WANTED THEM TO TELL ME WHY WHAT I NEED TO DO TO HELP THE PEOPLE IN TIERRA GRANDE.
DON'T GIVE ME PINS. TELL ME WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
BECAUSE I KNOW NOW RIGHT NOW, THAT I NEED TWO RETENTION PONDS IN TIERRA GRANDE TO HELP THE PEOPLE IN TIERRA GRANDE.
IT'S NOT GETTING THE WATER OUT OR HOLDING THE WATER.
I MEAN THIS WAS DONE IN THE SURVEY WE DID FOUR YEARS AGO AND IT WAS A GREAT SURVEY. AND I'M GOING TO FIND IT AND BRING IT BACK BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.
THIS IS WHAT YOU REALLY CALL A SURVEY.
OTHER THAN THAT I CAN SEE ALL THE BLUES, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW ALL THAT FLOODS.
WE KNOW ALL THE BLUE FLOODS. I CAN'T DISAGREE WITH YOU THERE.
BUT THIS IS JUST SIMPLE STUFF TELLING ME FLOODS.
OF COURSE. I JUST PROJECTED THIS OR ENVISIONED THIS TO BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
I THOUGHT THERE WAS GOING TO BE TELLING ME HEY YOU KNOW WHAT? WE NEED TO WORK ON PETRONILA MORE THAN WE NEED TO DO IN TIERRA GRANDE OR THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE BULK OF THE WATER. I JUST, AGAIN, THE THIS POINT, I JUST CAN'T SEE HOW YOU GUYS ARE TELLING US ESPECIALLY ME BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE THE LONGEST AND I'VE WORKED IN DRAINAGE FOR 12 OR 13 YEARS. SO I'M JUST ASKING DO WE ALREADY DO THOSE THINGS AND GET TO SEE WHERE THE WATER IS COMING FROM AND HOW MUCH AND WHERE DOES IT GO?
>> YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER AND I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HONEST.
I APPRECIATE YOU BEING FRANK WITH ME AND REALLY QUICK, EVERYTHING THAT YOU BROUGHT UP AND I APOLOGIZE IF I HAVEN'T EXPLAIN TO DO A LITTLE BETTER. BUT THAT IS WHAT THESE 15 AREAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING. IT'S NOT JUST TO SAY THERE'S FLOODING IN THESE AREAS. WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT SOLUTIONS AND MODELING THOSE SOLUTIONS AND PUTTING COST ESTIMATES TOGETHER AND REALLY DOING LIKE THE NEXT LITTLE BIT OF THE NEXT STEP AND THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO HAVE THEM LISTED AS A FMP AS A TRUE MITIGATION PROJECT IN THE PLAN. JUST SO YOU KNOW, AND I AGREE, I.C.E. THEY HAVE DONE EXCELLENT WORK THAT IS WHY I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE THE A TEAM. WE HAVE HALF I.C.E., ALL OF US WORKING TOGETHER. AND, AGAIN, THE WORK THAT YOU KNOW IT COMPLIMENTS SOME OF THE WORK THAT I.C.E. HAS DONE IN THE PAST. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL BY ANY MEANS ESPECIALLY AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY I KEEP REACHING OUT TRYING TO GET DATA OR INFORMATION FROM YOU GUYS FROM PAST STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE IN YOUR PRECINCT OR JUST ANY INFORMATION ON YOUR PRECINCT OF WHAT YOU GOT PLANNED FOR DRAINAGE. I'VE WORKED WITH JUAN EARLY ON AND GOT THE LIST. Y'ALL HAVE SEEN IT ON GOOGLE EARTH WHERE HE CIRCLED THE AREAS WHERE HE RECEIVED A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM THE PUBLIC. THAT HELPED US FROM THE BEGINNING. WE PUT THAT ON OUR MAPS JUST TO GO OK THIS IS WHAT YOU GUYS ARE HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC.
THE ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN DIFFERENT ON THIS STUDY THAN ANY OTHER STUDIES THAT THE HAVE BEEN DONE FOR ANYONE IN THESE WATERSHEDS IS THERE'S NEVER BEEN FULL FIELD SURVEY OUT THERE GETTING MEASUREMENTS OF THE STRUCTURES OF THE BRIDGES, THE CULVERTS, ALL OF THAT BUILDING A MODEL FOR THE ENTIRE WATERSHED.
WHAT IS NICE IS MY TEAM THEY BUILD THIS MODEL AND JUST LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, I MEAN FROM THE PUBLIC THEY WILL SEND US PHOTOS SO WE KIND OF KNOW WE CAN USE THAT INFORMATION BASICALLY TO FACT CHECK DOUBLE-CHECK OUR MODELS TO MAKE SURE THE MODELS ARE RUNNING ACCURATELY. SO WHAT IS NICE IS NOW WE HAVE THIS MODEL SETUP BASED ON A WHOLE CONGLOMERATION OF DATA.
AND WHAT IS NICE THEN WE CAN SIMULATE THESE DIFFERENT STORM EVENTS. LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXHIBITS THAT WE'VE GOT PROVIDED FOR EACH OF YOU GUYS YOU WILL SEE IN THE
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PURPLE, THAT REPRESENTS THE DEPTH OF WATER PURPLE IS THE HIGHEST DEPTH. I KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT THE BLUE IS. BUT PURPLE IS WORSE THAN BLUE.AND THAT'S SIMULATED DURING A 24-HOUR STORM EVENT FOR 100-YEAR STORM EVENT. LIKE I SAY AND WE CAN RUN IT FOR A 25-YEAR STORM EVENT. WE CAN SIMULATE ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF STORM EVENTS. AND THAT'S WHAT WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD IS AFTER WITH THESE -- AGAIN THEIR FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE FUND PROGRAM THE FIFTH PROGRAM THIS IS A REALLY USEFUL TOOL. BUT I AGREE.
THERE'S BEEN GREAT WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE AND I'M GLAD WE HAVE I.C.E. ON THE TEAM AS WELL. SO A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION I KNOW, IVAN IS NODDING HERE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY TOGETHER. AND AS Y'ALL KNOW WE HAVE MY TEAM AND I WE MEET EVER MONDAY MORNING AT 10:00 A.M.
WE HAVE A MEETING TO DISCUSS THE TASKS, WHO IS WORKING ON WHAT, COORDINATING DIFFERENT EFFORTS. WE WORK REALLY CLOSELY.
AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT WE'VE MET EVERY WEEK EXCEPT ONE WEEK SINCE THE THIRD WEEK IN JANUARY. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS NOW FOR NINE MONTHS. LIKE WE MEET WE'RE SO IN SYNC.
>> YOUR MODEL WILL SHOW WHERE THE WATER IS COMING FROM?
>> IT DOES. >> AND WHERE IT'S GOING THE NEXT TWO DAYS YOUR MODEL WILL SHOW THAT?
>> YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE I DON'T KNOW AS FAR AS LIKE THE NEXT TWO DAYS BUT IT WILL SHOW CERTAIN TIME PERIODSES --
>> THE REASON I ASKED, IS BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS TWO DAYS LATER IS IT FLOODS IN PETRONILA. REALLY FLOODS IN GOLDEN ACRES.
IT IS TWO DAYS LATER. ALL THE WATER COMING FROM THE FIELDS. FROM THE FARMS. WE HAD AT 150 RAIN AND HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT?
>> BACK IN MAY. >> AND WE DIDN'T EXPECT THAT BUT IT WAS 150-YEAR RAIN AND EVERYBODY GOT FLOODED.
AND THE WATER WAS GOING DOWN TWO DAYS LATER WE GET FLOODED AGAIN.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED.
HOW DO WE STOP THIS THING. IT'S ABOUT RETENTION PONDS HOW
MANY WHERE, WHAT. >> SO LET ME GET US BACK IN THE INTEREST OF TIME. BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN
WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT -- >> LET ME FINISH.
LET ME FINISH. >> I'M GOING TO PLEASE DON'T BE UGLY. I HAVE BEEN UGLY ALL MORNING LONG. PLEASE STOP.
>> YOU TALKED FOR 30 MINUTES, JUDGE LET ME TALK.
>> I HAVE BEEN SPEAKING FOR A LONGTIME.
I NEED TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT I WILL GET RIGHT BACK WITH YOU.
>> SUSAN I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
I'M NOT TRYING TO BE RUDE. >> YOU ARE.
I HEAR AN ECHO. JUST AGAIN THIS IS WHAT I WOULD EXPECT. I EXPECTED, RIGHT AND I'M BEING HONEST AND OPEN WITH YOU. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT MY AREAS.
AND I REALLY, REALLY I THINK ALL MY GREEN I CAN'T TAKE ANYTHING OUT OF MY GREEN. BECAUSE I NEED TO TAKE CARE OF
ALL OF MY GREEN. >> AND THE ONES THAT ARE IN GREEN THE 15 WE WILL BE LOOKING AT SOLUTIONS.
IS IT A DETENTION POND? IT IS A CULVERT? WE WILL BE LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF SOLUTIONS, OPTIONS WE PUT THOSE DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS AND OPTIONS INTO THE MODEL ITSELF.
AND WE MODEL THAT TO SEE IF IT IS -- LIKE WHAT MAKES SENSE? WHAT IS THE BEST SOLUTION FOR AN AREA? PLUS WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE THAT WITH COST. WE DO A BENEFIT COST ANALYSIS IS WHAT WE CALL IT A BCA. YES, NO, IT'S -- THERE'S A LOT TO THIS AS FAR AS THE PROCESS.
AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL LIKE WE'RE JUST GOING OH, THERE'S JUST WATER THERE, LIKE WE'RE GOING TO REALLY THERE'S MORE -- THE NEXT STEP OF THIS PROJECT AND FOLLOWING REALLY FOLLOWING TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD THEIR GUIDANCE ON THE SCOPE OF WORK, THE NEXT STEP THEY WANT TO SEE IS THE FURTHER ANALYSIS OF OUR 15 AND THAT WILL INCLUDE THE BCA AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL ALREADY TO COME BACK TO THE PUBLIC AND TO THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND EVERYONE, IN EARLY FEBRUARY. THAT IS WHERE I WANT TO STOP
JUST FOR A MOMENT. >> TAKING A GOOD LOOK AT THE
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>> AND WE PUT -- YES AND THAT ONE DEFINITELY AGAIN, IT'S TOUGH. ALL 16 OF THESE ARE GREAT, 15 JUST BECAUSE THE PETRONILA ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY IS GOING TO BE ALREADY ADDRESSED. AND ONE THING I DO WANT TO CALL OUT QUICK, I WILL COME BACK TO THE CINDY PARK, IF YOU LOOK AT LABEL CIRCLE NUMBER 8 AND 9, I MEANT TO MENTION THIS EARLIER.
YOU WILL SEE THE INITIAL PRIORITIZATION THEY BOTH GET A TWO. BECAUSE INITIALLY WE THOUGHT IT HAD TO BE TWO SEPARATE AREAS AND AFTER VISITING WITH I.C.E. AND JUST THE WHAT IS INVOLVED ON THOSE PROJECTS, ONE IS JUST WIDENING A CULVERT. THAT WE FELT LIKE WE COULD COMBINE THOSE TOGETHER. 8 AND 9, IF YOU PROBABLY NOTICE YOU PROBABLY WERE LIKE SUSAN THERE'S 16 GREEN ROWS.
IT'S 15 BECAUSE WE HAVE COMBINED 8 AND 9 TOGETHER.
I MEANT TO CLARIFY THAT. >> I NEED TO GET US BACK TO CENTER ALL THE COMMENTARY IS EXCELLENT BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND WE'VE GOTTEN OFF TRACK.
THE PURPOSE OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, IS AN INFLECTION POINT A STOPPING POINT. IN ORDER TO CONTINUE THE PROCESS, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS IDENTIFY OUR TOP 15 PROJECTS.
Y'ALL HAVE MADE YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE COURT.
AND THE COURT IS NOW IN A POSITION TO ADVANCE THOSE 15 PROJECTS. HOWEVER, MORE PROJECTS CAN ADVANCE IF DOLLARS ARE ALREADY ALLOCATED TO THE PROJECTS.
THE REASON THAT YOU'RE ASKING COMMISSIONERS AND MYSELF AS TO HAVE WE MADE ANY DECISIONS THAT WOULD AFFECT THESE TOP 16 -- LET'S AGREE IF WE HAD 31 TO ADVANCE WE WOULD ADVANCE THE SHEET AND WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN FIVE MINUTES.
WE'RE GOING TO ADVANCE THEM AS FAR AS THE PLAN GOES.
WE MADE THAT DECISION. THAT ITEM 4.
BUT WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO RIGHT NOW, IS FIGURE OUT HOW TO PRIORITIZE 15 INSIDE. AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THIS COURT AND I BROUGHT IT UP THIS MORNING, MADE DECISIONS EARLY ON THAT THEY WOULD MAKE INVESTMENTS IN DRAINAGE.
AND IN FACT, THREE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ALREADY STATED HOW MUCH MONEY THEY WOULD MAKE IN DRAINAGE PROJECTS AND ONE I KNOW COMMISSIONER MAREZ IS CONTEMPLATING THAT.
LET'S SAY THAT ALL OF US KNOW THAT THERE'S DOLLARS TO GO TO DRAINAGE. THOSE COUNTY-WIDE FUNDS THAT WE XED OUT FOR ARPA AND ALL YOU ARE ASKING US TO DO TODAY IS STATE WHICH PROJECTS AMONGST THE ONES THAT YOU'VE RECOMMENDED OF THE 31, WILL BE USING THOSE FUNDS SO THAT WE DON'T DOUBLE DIP.
>> SO THE PROJECT FOR THE RECORD IS FOLLOWING THE MODEL THE STATE WANTS TO SEE. PERIOD.
AND NO, WE'VE NEVER DONE IT THIS WAY BEFORE.
AND WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE THE STATE IDENTIFIED SPECIAL FUNDING THAT WE CAN COMPETITIVELY WENT AFTER BECAUSE THEY SAID YOU'VE NEVER DONE IT BEFORE AND THIS IS HOW WE WANT YOU TO DO IT.
AND THIS BIG PACKET THAT WE HAVE SHOWCASES THE MODELING THAT ALREADY HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO GET US TO THIS POINT BUT WE ARE NOT ANYWHERE NEAR DONE. SO IF YOU DON'T PARTICIPATE THEN YOU WILL POTENTIALLY IN MY OPINION, HURT PROJECTS THAT COULD BE ADVANCED. WE THOUGH THAT WE'VE GOT MONEY COMING. SO, PLEASE, DO YOUR TASK AND ANNOUNCE IF THERE ARE ANY PROJECTS IN YOUR AREA THAT YOU BELIEVE YOU WILL BE DIRECTING FUNDING TO.
THAT'S IT. THERE'S NOTHING BUT -- I WHOLEHEARTEDLY DISAGREE WHICH IS NOT ONLY MY RIGHT BUT MY BASED UPON ACTUALLY ME ATTENDING EVERY CONFERENCE AND WORKSHOP AND BEING INVOLVED AND OTHERS NOT, IS THAT THE NUMBER WE HAVE TO ADVANCE IS DIRECTLY REFLECTING THE FACT THAT WE WANT TO GET TO THAT NEXT POINT. WE WANT TO GET TO THE IN-DEPTH STUDY THAT WILL PRODUCE THE FINAL REPORT.
I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL PROVIDE THAT ANALYSIS TODAY OR IF YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL NOVEMBER 2, WE CAN DO THAT.
BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS YOU'VE BEEN INVITED TO DO SO FOR MONTHS. AND TODAY'S THE DAY WE NEED TO
SAY WE'RE WAITING 0 AND YOU. >> SUSAN, 665 AND COUNTY ROAD 69
>> I DON'T SEE BELT LANE IN HERE.
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WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
>> YES, THESE ARE THE AREAS -- YEAH IT'S THE AREAS OF CONCERN NOT SO MUCH SPECIFIC -- NOT THE BELK LANE PROJECT.
>> IT'S NOT ON HERE AND THAT IS A AREA OF CONCERN, TOO.
>> AND SOME OF THE AREAS IF THEY'VE ALREADY RECEIVED MONEY OR IF THERE'S BEEN WORK DONE, THAT IS ANOTHER WHERE WE JUST DIDN'T INCLUDE IT ON THE LIST. BECAUSE IT HAD ALREADY BEEN
ADDRESSED. >> AGAIN, I WILL ASK I.C.E. TO PLEASE TAKE THE DAIS BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHO WANTS TO DO IT?
>> CAN I MAKE A RESPONSE TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID, JUDGE AS FAR AS
THE MAKING PRIORITIES? >> YES.
>> SUSAN WANTS TO HEAR HIM. >> SO MY THOUGHT AND WANTS HERE, MY THOUGHT IS AGAIN, TRYING TO MOVE THINGS ALONG.
ON THE ONE WHERE IT SAYS SOUTH PRAIRIE ESTATES THAT COULD BE SOUTH PRAIRIE/RABBIT RUN. YOU CAN CALL IT THAT WHOLE AREA.
I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS BECAUSE THAT AREA IS TOGETHER FOR CLARIFICATION. I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT I AND JUAN TELL ME IF YOU THINK THIS IS OK, I FEEL CONFIDENT I CAN GET THAT SANTA MARIA DONE BASED ON WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
DON'T Y'ALL FEEL LIKE IT'S WELL WITHIN THE FUNDING I'VE PUT
FORTH. >> YES, SIR, BASED ON WHAT WE
TALKED ABOUT. >> AND WE WOULD SUBSTITUTE
SANTA MARIA FOR SOUTH PRAIRIE? >> THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
>> THAT WOULD ADVANCE IT. >> YES, MA'AM.
>> I MAKE THAT NOTE. >> AND CALL IT SOUTH PRAIRIE/RABBIT RUN AND MAKE THAT GREEN.
AND MAKE THAT DIGGER A YELLOW. TO ME THAT AND THEN TAKE SANTA
MARIA OFF. >> OK THAT IS A GOOD ONE.
>> I DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT OFF THE 31.
AND BELIEVE ME, I DON'T A'S LIKE DOING IT WHEN I AM AHE THAT 100% CERTAIN BUT TRYING TO MOVE SOMETHING FORWARD TODAY.
>> TOTALLY AGREE. AND QUICK, SANTA MARIA IS NOT GOING TO FALL OFF THE LIST OF 31 BUT AS FAR AS THE 15.
I THINK IF I'VE HEARD YOU CORRECTLY WE'LL MAKE SOUTH PRAIRIE ESTATES, WE'LL MAKE IT SOUTH PRAIRIE/RABBIT RUN AND WE'LL MAKE THAT GREEN AND BALL CHUCK AND THAT LINE ITEM YELLOW.
>> PERFECT. >> UNTIL WE GET THE LMI, UNTIL SOMEBODY TAKES ONE OF THEIRS OFF I CAN'T.
I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO ANYBODY THAT HAPPENS TO BE WATCHING, THE REASON I'M MOVING SANTA MARIA IS BECAUSE I'M GOING TO SPEND SIGNIFICANT MONEY ON THAT PROJECT THE COURT'S MONEY AND I DON'T WANT THEM TO THINK I'M NOT GOING TO DO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT DOING AND THAT IS SUPER IMPORTANT.
I WILL COME BACK AT THE NOVEMBER 16TH MEETING, JUAN.
I'VE SENT YOU AN E-MAIL AND PEYTON, TOO I WANT TO PUT IT BACK ON THE 16TH TO DEAL WITH SANTA MARIA ISSUE AND ALLOCATE A PORTION OF MY FUNDS TO THE PROJECT SO THEY KNOW I'M GOING TO SPEND MONEY AND WORK ON THAT PROJECT.
BECAUSE IT IS A COUNTY ROAD. IT IS OUR PROBLEM.
WE HAVE GOT TO FIX THAT AREA. >> YES.
AND IF I CAN ASK THE COURT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SIMULATION
OF THE MODEL. >> I WOULD, TOO.
>> I WANT TO SEE THE SIMULATION OF THE MODEL.
I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER GONZALES.
WHEN YOU HAVE A TWO-YEAR RAIN EVENT IT WILL AFFECT CERTAIN AREAS BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A 100-YEAR EVENT YOU ARE GOING TO SEE IT INUNDATING BASED ON THE PLAN IDENTIFIED HERE.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT -- AND THE REASON I'M GLAD COMMISSIONER BROUGHT IT UP, WE NEED TO DETERMINE WHAT HAPPENS THE DAY AFTER OR TWO DAYS AFTER, BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE DRIVING AND THE COMMISSIONERS ARE DRIVING WE NOTICE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE IT RAINING UPSTREAM TOWARDS ORANGE GROVE AREA.
BUT BY THE TIME IT GETS HERE IT WILL BE WITHIN THE 24 HOURS OR WITHIN 48 HOURS. AND THEN THAT IS WHEN YOU START SEEING INUNDATION IN THE PARK AND INUNDATION IN AGO AGO AND TOWARDS DRISCOLL AND TOWARDS PETRONILA AREA AND OUT TO THE SOUTHWEST AREA TOWARDS THE COUNTY.
FOR THAT REASON -- AND WE CAN SEE THE TWO-DAY MODEL I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT IF WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
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>> I HAVE A COMMISSIONER MAREZ AND GIVE ME A SECOND.
COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION?
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT MAN DA LANE.
>> 99, 77 AND GOES TOWARDS ROBSTOWN AND SOUTHEAST TOWARDS 44. CROSSES 44 AND GOES TO 69.
61, 67. SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE GOT TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT I KNOW THESE ARE JUST AREAS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT I THINK WE JUST NEED TO SEE WORST OF THIS LOCATION TO PUT A DETENTION POND.
I THINK MY THING WAS ALSO IS THAT YOU KNOW AND I KIND OF TALKED TO PEOPLE AND I SAY WHY DON'T WE DO A MAN MADE LAKE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE COUNTY. AND THEN PIPE THAT WATER INTO THE RIVER WHEN THE RIVER NEEDS WATER.
THAT WILL CAPTURE ALL THE WATER THAT IS COMING FROM JIM WELLS COUNTY AND THAT AREA ORANGE GROVE AND HOLDS THE WATER WITHIN THAT AREA AND THEN SLOWLY RELEASE IT INTO EITHER THE NUECES COUNTY RIVER OR RELEASE IT TO THE CREEK.
>> SO THAT'S WHEN WE GET TO THE SOLUTIONS, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. WHAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECTS ARE IDENTIFIED AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ONES ALREADY FUNDED ARE NOT PLACED ON THE TOP 15 SO WE'VE DONE THAT. NOW LET ME ASK COMMISSIONER MAREZ HE HAS SOME THAT HE WANTS TO PUT IN.
GO AHEAD. >> AND ALSO I WANT TO GO BACK BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROJECT AND THERE'S BEEN SO MANY MOVING PARTS IT'S HARD TO RECALL WHAT WE HAVE DONE WHAT WE WERE TASKED TO DO. AND I THINK EARLY ON WE WERE ASKED TO FORWARD YOU DATA. AND DATA AS FAR AS E-MAILS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED AS FAR AS PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT FLOODING AND DRAINAGE. PICTURES HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED.
WE'VE BEEN THERE AT PUBLIC HEARINGS WHERE THE PICTURES AND YOU SEE PEOPLE'S FRONT YARDS WHERE THEY'VE TURNED INTO LAKES.
I'M HOPING ALL THAT HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THIS.
HAS IT? >> YES, AND COMMISSIONER MAREZ I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. IT'S BEEN A JOURNEY.
YES. WE'VE BEEN INFORMATION THAT YOU Y'ALL ■RECEIVE ORTHATDIRECTLY SENT TO US, WE ACTUALLY HAVE OUR PROJECT TEAM WE HAVE A REMOTE SERVER THAT WE STORED ALL OF OUR INFORMATION ON THERE. AND I'VE GOT FILE FOLDER SETUP FOR ALL OF THE PHOTOS THAT HAVE BEEN SENT ALL OF THAT INFORMATION. BECAUSE, AGAIN, JUST WHAT WE WERE BRINGING UP, IF WE USE THAT INFORMATION TO VALIDATE OUR MODELS. AND WE USE THAT ACTUALLY AS FAR AS EVEN WITH THE PRIORITIZATION AND YEAH.
AND JUAN, I WAS GOING TO SAY, WE'D LOVE TO SHOW YOU THE MODELS. I KNOW YOU GET OUR INVITE FOR OUR WEEKLY MEETING AND IF YOU CAN ATTEND THIS MONDAY, LET'S RUN THROUGH AND DO THAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
AND SHOW YOU THAT. BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT SO WE CAN AGAIN, SO WE CAN BE ABLE TO KEEP THINGS ON TASK AND ON SCHEDULE THIS NOVEMBER 2 DATE IS GOING TO BE REALLY CRITICAL BECAUSE I WILL BE HONEST. IF WE CAN'T COME UP WITH THE 15 AND IF OUR TEAM IS ON HOLD, WE NEED ALL THE TIME WE CAN GET BECAUSE WITH THE HOLIDAYS COMING UP, I'M CONCERNED WE WILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND ASK FOR AN EXTENSION AND TO DO THAT THEY HAVE TO TAKE IT TO THEIR BOARD.
IT IS NOT AN EASY. >> THIS IS A GOOD THING.
THIS IS JUST US SAYING WE HAVE 31, THE 15 NEED TO BE PRIORITIZED AND OUR WORKS IS GOING TO BE CONTINUED.
AND COMMISSIONERS I WOULD ASK THAT YOU GET MORE INVOLVED BECAUSE WHEN YOU COME TO THE MEETINGS, THE WORKSHOPS YOU SEE THE COMPUTER SCREENS IN FRONT OF YOU YOU SEE THE MODELING YOU KNOW THIS IS NOT LIKE WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE.
IT'S VERY DIFFERENT AND WE DO NEED PUBLIC WORKS ATTENDING THE MEETINGS AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ATTENDING THE MEETINGS AND THAT IS WHY WE'RE DOING THIS THE WRONG WAY.
I ASKED FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND WE HAVE THAT GOTTEN THEM. ALL WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS HEY, TELL US WHICH ONES YOU WANT TO ADVANCE FROM CDBG MITT.
AND IVAN WHICH ARE THE ONES THAT YOU BROUGHT TO COURT OVER TWO YEARS AGO FROM I.C.E. THAT ACTUALLY HAVE ENGINEERING READY THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED AS A CDBG MITT PROJECT? THE SAME ONES YOU BROUGHT BE BEFORE?
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I KNOW THAT YOU DON'T KNOW THEM? YES, PLEASE.BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE
WAY FOR THE OTHER ONES. >> YES, JUDGE.
THANK YOU. ON THAT NOTE, WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS YES, WE HAVE SOME INFORMATION THAT WAS FORWARDED.
AND I THINK WE FILED THAT INFORMATION WITH THE TEAM.
AND WE'RE WORKING UPDATING ON THOSE COST ESTIMATES.
WE HAVE TO LOOK INTO THOSE. >> I UNDERSTAND.
CAN YOU NAME THEM? I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE TWEAKING.
BUT I WILL MAKE SURE THERE'S WIGGLE ROOM.
I'M LOOKING TO GET THEM NAMED. WHICH ONES HERE SO WE KNOW THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF THOSE GETTING FUNDED?
>> WHAT SHE IS LOOKING FOR, TOO, IS ONE PRECINCT IN ONE, ONE PRECINCT IN TWO, ONE IN THREE THAT COULD QUALIFY FOR THE LMI
MITIGATION MONEY? >> THE PROJECT FOR TIERRA
GRANDE. >> MOST DEFINITELY, I WOULD ASK FOR A TIME SO I CAN LOOK AT THAT AND COMPARE THE INFORMATION FROM
THE LMI AREAS. >> I'M NOT ASKING FOR THAT I'VE -- THE REASON IT'S ON THIS AGENDA IS BECAUSE WE ARE OUT OF TIME. WE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR OVER THREE MONTHS. I'M ASKING FOR IS JUST THE NAME.
JUST THE NAMES. TIERRA GRANDE, BLUE BONNET AND SANTA MARIA WHICH ONE WAS IT, THERE WERE THREE?
>> IT WAS TIERRA GRANDE ONE WAS THERE.
BUT THEN THE OTHER ONES WE GOT TO LOOK INTO IT.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE INFORMATION.
>> WHAT ARE THE NAMES? WHAT ARE THE NAMES?
>> I HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW.
THANK YOU. >> YOU CAN'T REMEMBER THEM?
>> I HAVE TO GO LOOK. >> I WILL TAKE A BREAK SO YOU CAN GO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY. AND ANNA VA LAST KEZ HAS IT UPSTAIRS FOR YOU. THE POINT IS THE ENTIRE PROJECTS CAME. IF WE DON'T DO THAT IVAN TO TODAY -- IVAN? IF WE DON'T DO THAT TODAY WE CANNOT MAKE WAY FOR OTHER GOOD PROJECTS TO GET TO THE 15. WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE MONEY TO YOUR PROJECTS THAT I.C.E. ALREADY HAS PREPARED.
AT LEAST FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THE COURT.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HELP OUR SITUATION HERE. WE WANT TO TO HELP THESE PROJECTS GET FUNDED SO THAT WE CAN MAKE WAY FOR THE OTHERS.
WILL YOU HELP ME IDENTIFY THEM? >> MOST DEFINITELY.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MAREZ DO YOU HAVE
SOME THAT YOU ARE WORKING ON? >> SO YOU MENTIONED BLUE BONNET AND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH I.C.E.
IS HOW WE CAN PARTNER AND THEY MAY HAVE LEFT PARTNERS THERE IN NUECES COUNTY DRAINAGE DISTRICT 2 THEY ARE DOING WORK IN THE BLUE BONNET AREA. SO I TENTATIVELY BASED ON KNOWING AN ESTIMATE OF SOME OF THE WORK THAT COULD BE DONE AND WHETHER IT BE LAND ACQUISITION OR JUST COMPETING SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE INITIATED IN THAT AREA, IS UP TO $2 MILLION OF MY ARPA FUNDING. THAT IS A CONVERSATION I'VE HAD WITH JJ AND I.C.E. AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT TIES IN WITH THIS. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND PINPOINT WHETHER WE KNOW IF WE CAN MOVE THAT OFF OR IF THIS KEEPS US ON THE GREEN.
I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP ONE OR TWO OTHER AREAS SPRING GARDENS, AND TIERRA GRANDE, TERRA VERDI ARE TWO AREAS.
ONE OF THOSE AREAS I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE UP.
BUT BLUE BONNET AREA IS ASSOCIATED WITH RONES TOWN DRAINS. ROBSTOWN DRAINS PROJECT PROJECT 10 WHICH INCLUDES THE ENTIRE CITY AND COUNTY PARTS OF ROBSTOWN.
THAT IS MY BASIC PUT IN. IS UP TO $2 MILLION FOR DRAINAGE ISSUES. WITH THE FOCUS LIKE I MENTIONED IN THOSE AREAS. SO IF WE CAN HELP GET THAT IDEA WORKED THROUGH, OF BLUE BONNET QUALIFIES IT GETS US OFF THE LIST AND I CAN BRING SOMETHING IN I WOULD PREFER TO DO THAT WITH ONE OF THE PROJECTS I MENTIONED.
>> NOW, SO WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO WORK ON THAT. YOU'VE HEARD THAT $2 MILLION IS GOING TO BE ADVANCED ON THIS ONE, IT MIGHT BUT AT LEAST YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS ALLOCATED TOWARDS IT. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.
COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, YOU HAVE SOME MONEY THAT YOU SAID IS GOING TO AARP. WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW, SO THE STATE REQUIRES THE PRIORITIZATION, WHICH PROJECT
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ARE PUTTING YOU THAT DOLLARS TOWARDS.>> BY THE TIME WE POST. YOU KNOW WHAT I METROPOLITAN.
COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, YOU HAVE THE SAME SITUATION.
YOU NEED TO PUT YOUR PROJECTS. YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW NOW HOW
YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE THOSE. >> FOR POINT OF CLARIFICATION, IF THERE'S A PROJECT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO PARTIALLY FUND THERE, COMMISSIONER MAREZ, IF WE KNOW BY MARCH, THE DETAILS, WE CAN STILL ADD IN THE REGIONAL PLAN, IF NOT ON THE 15 LIST.
WE CAN ADD EXTRA ITEMS -- OUR DEADLINE IS MARCH 1ST TO GET THAT TO THE FMPSTATUS. BUT OUR DEADLINE IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST OF MARCH. IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU'RE
PULLING OFF AND YOU DON'T -- >> FULL FUNDING.
>> THEY'LL STILL GET INCLUDED INTO THE REGIONAL PLAN.
GOOD. JUDGE, THE REASON I DO HAVE SOME CONSTRUCTION GOING ON. THERE'S SEWER LINE IN BANQUETTE THAT'S LEAKING. HAS BEEN LEAKING FOR SEVERAL
THAT'S DIFFERENT. >> THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING TO PUT MY MONEY INTO. IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE THE
4 MILLION BIRTHDAY >> WHEN WE TOLD THE PEOPLE THAT WE WERE SPENDING MONEY IN DRAINAGE, WE NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND IN SEWER, WHICH IS A GREAT CAUSE. AND HOW MUCH MONEY YOU'RE SPENDING IN DRAINAGE. WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO TELL
TRYING TO BE TRANSPARENT. >> THEY THINK THAT YOU'RE SPENDING FOUR IN DRAINAGE. WE'LL CLEAR THAT UP.
>> NO. I HAVE OTHER PROJECTS I WANT TO DO, THAT INCLUDED THE BANQUETTE SEWER LINE.
>> I UNDERSTAND. AND WE'LL GET THAT PUT ON THE AGENDA, SO YOU CAN SEPARATE THEM.
BUT WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW IS WHICH PROJECT, ON THIS LIST, YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE MONEY TO WITH THE REST OF THE
$4 MILLION. >> WELL, THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO FIND OUT -- HOW MUCH EXACTLY THE SEWER LINE IS GOING TO COST ME. OKAY.
>> I AGREE. >> AND THEN WHATEVER I HAVE LEFT, IT WILL -- I WILL DESIGNATE TO THE DRAINAGE.
>> ALL RIGHT. AND THE SAME GOES FOR GONZALEZ.
SO WE -- WE WILL HOLD ON THIS, SUSAN, OTHER THAN THE DECISION THAT WAS JUST MADE BY THE COURT. I'LL GO AHEAD AND -- YOU HEARD COMMISSIONER CHESNEY'S ALLOCATION.
>> THAT SOUNDS GREAT. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY -- I'VE MADE NOTES FROM WHAT COMMISSIONER MAREZ HAS SHARED AS WELL. SO THAT'S EXCELLENT.
>> YEP. >> BEFORE THE SECOND -- AS SOON
AS YOU CAN GET IT. >> YOU CAN LET HER KNOW WHAT
WE'RE GOING TO DO, RIGHT? >> THAT'S CORRECT.
I WAS GOING TO SAY. AND JUST SO Y'ALL KNOW, I'M STAYING OVERNIGHT TONIGHT. SO IF YOU NEED TO MEET TOMORROW AT ALL, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO COME SIT DOWN WITH Y'ALL.
IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW -- IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE.
ORE YOU CAN EMAIL ME, CALL ME. IF YOU DO YOUR HOMEWORK, YOU CAN
PASS THE TEST ON NOVEMBER 2ND. >> WE FAILED MISERABLY TODAY.
WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE IS PRIORITIZE THESE PROJECTS.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE NOVEMB NOVEMBER 2ND. AND WE NEED PUBLIC WORKS TO ASSIST THE COMMISSIONERS IMMEDIATELY.
ASAP. ON FIGURING OUT WHICH PROJECTS CAN BE FUNDED USING THEIR DO DOLLARS.
WE TOLD THE PEOPLE WE WERE GOING TO MAKE MONUMENTAL CHANGE IN DRAINAGE, THIS LIST IS SO WE CAN GET POTENTIAL STATE FUNDING.
THAT'S A BIG MISS. AND IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, WE HAD AN ARPA DOLLAR FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, THAT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE, BECAUSE YOU GUYS SAID YOU WERE GOING TO USE THOSE DOLLARS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE BACK -- I KNOW SHE'S NOT HERE.
WE NEED TO HAVE DRAINAGE BACK ON.
BECAUSE THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN MONEY AND DIDN'T PUT
ANY TOWARDS DRAINAGE -- >> HOW MUCH ARE YOU PUTTING IN YOUR BUDGET? FOR YOUR $4 MILLION? HOW MUCH ARE YOU PUTTING IN FOR DRAINAGE?
>> I HAVE A PROJECT THAT I'M ACTUALLY ADVANCING, ONCE I SEE
-- >> I JUST SAID HOW MUCH ARE YOU
PUTTING IN FOR DRAINAGE? >> SO MY AGENDA ITEM WAS $7 MILLION. IT WAS $7 MILLION FOR A MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION CONTRACT COUNTY WIDE, WHICH YOU REJECTED. IT WAS $7 MILLION FOR DRAINAGE.
THAT WAS MY MOTION. AND YOU REJECTED IT.
>> HOW MUCH ARE YOU PUTTING IN FOR DRAINAGE FOR YOUR
$4 MILLION? >> I DON'T HAVE A PROJECT RIGHT
NOW, BECAUSE I'M GETTING -- >> YOU WANT TO DO AN 850?
>> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO. I ACTUALLY FOLLOW A PROCESS.
THE PROCESS IS WE NEED TO SEE WHICH ONES ARE PRIORITIZED.
WE'VE BEEN ASKING YOU TO DO THAT.
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>> JUDGE HAS GOT HIS. COMMISSIONER MAREZ HAS HIS.
>> AND I'LL HAVE MINE, TOO. >> NOW WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH
YOU HAVE. >> MINE IS GOING TO RESULT --
>> THAT'S GOING TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE, RIGHT?
>> THE WAY IT WORKS FOR MOST SCIENTISTS, IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE 15 AND NUMBER 16 I'M GOING TO TRY TO FUND.
THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, COMMISSIONER.
>> NO. >> I CAN'T FUND IT UNLESS WE PRIORITIZE THEM. BECAUSE THE TOP 15 --
>> YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE US NUMBERS, RIGHT?
>> SO AGAIN I'VE ASKED PW. SUSAN HAS GOTTEN ZERO RESPONSE.
WE CAN'T GET RESPONSES. THAT'S WHY IT'S ON THIS AGENDA.
IF YOU WANT TO ADVANCE PROJECTS, THEY NEED TO BE BROUGHT FORTH.
THEY HAVE NOT BEEN BROUGHT FORTH.
SO THE TRUTH IS IS THAT WE ALL WANT DRAINAGE.
BUT UNTIL THE PROJECTS GET BROUGHT FORTH, THAT ARE SHOVEL-READY, WE CAN'T FUND. I'M ASKING FOR THOSE SAME PROJECTS THAT YOU PUT FORTH TWO YEARS AGO, WITH CDBG TO BE BROUGHT BACK FOR FUNDING. THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR. AND I HOPE I'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE. YOU CAN -- WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK THIS AFTERNOON. GIVE YOU ANOTHER SHOT AT IT.
SO I'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT. >> EXCUSE ME, JUDGE.
WHEN I PAID FOR THE STUDY, THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE MY PROJECTS?
>> WELL, IT DOES. >> I MEAN, I PAID $155,000.
AND THEN THEY SAID -- >> THEY'RE NOT -- THAT'S --
THOSE ARE NOT ON HERE. >> THAT WAS FOR DRAINAGE.
>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING -- OKAY.
>> WHAT I PAID FOR WAS FOR DRAINAGE.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. THAT DRAINAGE STUDY IS VALUABLE.
AND IT'S NOT ON HERE, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE -- WELL, IT'S ON HERE IN THE SENSE OF IT'S A PRIORITIZED PROJECT.
BUT WE'RE ASKING WHAT MONIES ARE YOU GOING TO DEDICATE TO, SO WE'RE NOT ASKING THE STATE TO GIVE US THE SAME EXACT MONEYS.
IT'S ABOUT -- IT'S JUST ABOUT RANKING THEM.
>> WELL, I HAD 155,000 PEOPLE. >> THIS IS HOW YOU HELP YOUR PEOPLE. WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO PRIORITIZE. AND THE REAL STORY HERE IS WE NEED TO COME BACK, SUSAN, ON NOVEMBER 2ND AND YOU'LL HAVE A FEW DAYS TO GATHER THIS INFORMATION AND RE-COLOR CODE, IF YOU WILL. AND WHAT I THINK I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO IS PUT ALL THE GREEN TOGETHER AND THEN, YOU KNOW, LET'S ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE TOP 15.
JUST ON ONE PIECE OF PAPER. THEN WE CAN STILL HAVE THIS ONE.
THAT SOUNDS GREAT. >> AND THE CATEGORY BY PRECINCT
PERFECT. AND, YES, AND AGAIN WE'RE -- THERE'S -- WE'RE NOT TRYING TO -- AT LEAST FOR THE PURPOSES OF WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, WE DON'T HAVE TO RANK THESE.
WE JUST HAVE TO COME UP WITH 15, BECAUSE THE NEXT STEP IS DOING A
FURTHER ANALYSIS OF THESE 15. >> RIGHT.
AND JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW, IN YOUR COGPACKET, WAS THE LMI IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECT. EACH OF OUR JURISDICTIONS, OTHER THAN CORPUS CHRISTI, QUALIFY FOR THE 50% OR GREATER LOW-TO-MODERATE STATUS. FOR COMMISSIONER CHESNEY'S PROCESS, IF YOU'RE SIDE C.C., IT'S NOT GOING TO BE OVER 50%.
BUT THE COG, WE HAVE TO LOOK, BUT OURS IS MEASURED JUST MAYBE UNDER 50%. SO MAYBE YOU COULD HAVE ONE AREA THAT COULD. BUT THE GENERALIZATION IS BY
>> AND THESE OTHER ONES ARE WAY OVER THE 50% CATEGORY.
AND UNFORTUNATELY PORT A IS NOT. >> I WOULD JUST ASK THAT THE ONE I MOVED TO YELLOW, GET MOVED TO GREEN, ONCE THE -- ONCE THE OTHER PROJECTS GET KNOCKED OUT. THAT WOULD BE MY ASK, PLEASE.
>> I HAVE MADE THAT NOTE. >> YEAH.
THAT'S GOOD. >> AND BESIDES CDBG MIT AND ARPA, I'M NOT CERTAIN WHAT ELSE IS AVAILABLE TO US.
BUT AGAIN IF THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF TODAY IS LET US KNOW IF THEIR C.O.'S WOULD BE AVAILABLE. IF SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO DEDICATE DOLLARS FOR A PROJECT, THEY COULD BE VETTED FOR POTENTIAL DOLLARS. SO WE HAVE -- WE HAVE MONEY IN
THAT PILE AS WELL. >> AND THE OTHER THING, IN FACT, JUST KIND OF PIGGYBACKING ON WHAT YOU JUST HAVE MENTIONED, JUDGE CANALES, WITH TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, WITH THEIR REGION 13, THIS NEXT YEAR IS THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE CYCLE.
SO WHAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT FROM THE REGIONAL FLOOD PLANS, IS THAT INFORMATION WILL BE SHARED WITH THE LEGISLATORS TO DETERMINE KIND OF THIS NEXT CYCLE OF FUNDING, THAT THEY MAY ALLOCATE FOR FLOOD. SO IT'S -- THAT'S THE OTHER REASON WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THESE PROJECTS IN THE PLAN.
>> THAT'S GREAT. WELL, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
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I APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK. AND AGAIN 3-POINT A.3 PASS JUSTFOR DISCUSSION TODAY. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.
ON FORM FM, YOU HAVE TWO AND THREE THERE.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE SHARE OR WHAT?
I DON'T REMEMBER. >> AT LEAST -- AND AGAIN WE CIRCLE JUST KIND OF A GENERAL AREA OF WHERE WE WOULD DO -- BE CONDUCTING THIS FURTHER ANALYSIS.
AND IT KIND OF COVERS BOTH OF THOSE PRECINCTS, TWO AND THREE.
IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO US. AND AGAIN WE TRIED TO GET THE GIS FILES OF Y'ALL'S NEW PRECINCT BOUNDARIES.
WE DON'T HAVE THOSE, PER SE. WE TRIED TO JUST KIND OF DRAW THEM IN BY HAND, BASED ON OTHER PDFS IF WE CAN MAKE THAT CORRECTION. FROM WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, IT LOOKED LIKE IT COVERED BOTH PRECINCTS.
>> SO WE MOVE ON OUT OF THE GREEN, THAT MEANS PALOMA RANCH, BEING IN THE WHITE, IT CAN MOVE INTO THE GREEN?
>> IF YOU MOVE ONE -- I'M SORRY. >> WE MOVE ONE GREEN OUT BECAUSE OF THE 15 -- STILL THE 31, IT WON'T BE THE 15.
SO WE CAN PUT PALOMA RANCH AREA IN THE GREEN?
>> YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO HIGHLIGHT -- YEAH, IF YOU WANT LA PALOMA RANCH AND THAT'S WHAT YOU DECIDE, I MEAN, WE'RE FINE WITH THAT. AGAIN WE'VE JUST -- I HOPE Y'ALL KNOW. WE JUST GAVE Y'ALL JUST FROM THE
FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC -- >> IF IT'S WHITE, IT RANKED THE
SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW. YOU'D WANT TO TRY TO ADVANCE A
YELLOW MORE THAN A WHITE. >> THAT'S WHAT WE --
>> IF YOU HAVE A YELLOW. WE DON'T HAVE A YELLOW.
>> RIGHT. >> BUT AGAIN AT THE END OF THE
DAY, THIS IS -- >> BUT YOU WOULD WANT TO ADVANCE THE BEST PROJECTS WITH THE HIGHEST PRIORITIZATION BY ENGINEERING. THE WHOLE IDEA HERE IS -- IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE EQUALITY HERE WITHIN THE PRECINCTS.
BUT REMEMBER ALL WATER IS MOVING.
SO THE FACT THAT IT'S IN YOUR PRECINCT FOR THE MOMENT MEANS NOTHING. IT'S ABOUT TO MOVE OUT OF YOUR PRECINCT. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS ADVANCE THE VERY STRONGEST 15 PROJECTS FOR PRIORITIZATION.
>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> THAT TO ME IS WHAT MATTERS.
NOT WHETHER YOU HAVE AN EXTRA ONE OVER COMMISSIONER MAREZ OR HERNANDEZ. LET'S USE ENGINEERING PRINCIPLES TO GUIDE US. NOW YELLOW TO GREEN, NO PROBLEM.
BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY HIGHLY RANKED.
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY AND THAT'S WHY WE DEVELOPED KIND OF THE NEXT FIVE, JUST TO KIND OF HELP Y'ALL -- YOU KNOW, JUST TO SHARE OUR RECOMMENDATION. BUT, YES.
WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOUR TEAM -- Y'ALL CAN HUDDLE UP, IF YOU WILL. THERE'S A CONFERENCE ROOM THAT WE HAVE. MAYBE YOU ALL CAN HUDDLE UP JUST A LITTLE BIT AND SEE IF YOU CAN MAKE SOME PROGRESS WHILE
EVERYBODY IS HERE. >> THAT'S PERFECT.
DO YOU WANT US TO COME BACK TO COURT TODAY?
>> NO, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONSENSUS TODAY.
BUT YOU GUYS CAN AT LEAST MOVE THE NEEDLE, SINCE IT'S BEEN SO HARD TO GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> Y'ALL CAN USE THE CONFERENCE
THANK YOU FOR YOUR -- >> I'M GOING TO ASK IDY TO FOLLOW UP AND WE GET THIS COOPERATION, THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE MOVE TO GOING ON TO ITEM NUMBER -- WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO ADVANCE FOREST.
I FORGOT THAT YOU GOT AN H.R. I WAS LOOKING SPECIFICALLY ON THE REGULAR AGENDA. AND SO H.R. YOU'VE GOT AN ITEM THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED. IT'S WITHIN YOUR BUDGET.
[3. Discuss and consider continuance of temporary supplemental pay for interim Office Administrator currently performing Medical Examiner Coordinator and Office Administrator duties.]
IT'S THE CONTINUANCE OF TEMPORARILY SUPPLEMENTAL PAY AND FOR THE PREVIOUS OFFICE ADMINISTRATOR BEING MOVEDFORWARD IN TIME TO FEBRUARY. >> YES MA'AM.
FOR THE RECORD, JUST A QUICK ITEM ON THE CONTINUATION OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL SPECIAL PAY FOR OUR M.E. COORDINATOR, WHO IS PERFORMING HER DUTIES AS M.E. COORDINATOR AND ASSISTING IN OFFICE ADMINISTRATOR DUTIES AS WELL.
>> OKAY. >> WE'RE SEEKING AUTHORIZATION TO APPROVE THAT SUPPLEMENTAL SPECIAL PAY.
>> OKAY. AND IS WITHIN YOUR BUDGET, AS IT'S BEEN REFLECTED BY THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR.
>> YES, MAP. >> I'LL MAKE THE MOVE.
GONZALEZ WILL SECOND. AND ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS HERE? OKAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE SOME OTHER ONES THAT NEED SOME THOUGHTS, THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING.
WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN IDA'S. IF YOU'LL CALL HER QUICKLY SO
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SHE CAN GET BACK. AND WE'LL TAKE JUAN'S, ALSO OUT OF ORDER, BECAUSE HE'S STILL HERE.THAT WAY YOU CAN GET TO THE GROUP THAT'S MEETING IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM. YOURS IS THE CLINIC.
[1. Discuss and consider approval of Contingency Change Order No. 1 for the Calderon Clinic Renovations Project.]
WE'LL TAKE YOU FIRST. >> JUDGE, WHAT NUMBER?
>> B1. IT'S A CONTINGENCY CHANGE ORDER MAKING MODIFICATIONS TO THE -- SORRY TO THE AREA.
SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING IT. THERE'S NOT A NO--- I'M GOING TO SAY NO COST, BUT MONEYS ALREADYCAL KATE -- ALLOCATED AND
WE'RE USING THAT ALLOWANCE. >> SO IT A CONTINGENCY FUND?
>> IT'S AN ALLOWANCE, YES, MA'AM.
VERY GOOD. >> SO THERE'S A MOTION.
AND YOU'LL GO AHEAD AND BRING IT BACK TO US FOR -- JUST GIVE US A NOTE ON HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO BE.
>> YEAH. I THINK IT WAS LIKE 19,000.
>> THAT IS ACCURATE. >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
>> GOT A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND. >> SECOND FROM MAREZ.
AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
ACTUALLY IT'S NOT THAT YOU NEED TO BE HERE, BUT THERE IS AN ASPHALT PATCH ROAD -- WELL, THAT'S PURCHASING.
OKAY. IT'S JUST SOME MATERIAL THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PURCHASING. WE WERE WAITING FOR AMANDA.
I'LL CALL IDA NEXT. IDA, WE APOLOGIZE.
BUT HOPEFULLY YOU WERE NOT MINDING THE MOMENT, THE CELEBRATION. OH, AMANDA IS WITH US.
[1. Discuss and consider approval of reclassification of “Community Outreach Library Clerk” at Pay Group 12/01 to a “Community Outreach Librarian” at Pay Group 26/01 in Department 6310 (Nueces County Library) at an additional cost to Nueces County of $24,716 for the 22/23 Fiscal Year.]
SUPER. WE'LL GET RIGHT TO HER.BUT FOR RIGHT NOW WE'RE MOVING TO FINISH A PIECE OF HUMAN RESOURCES, THAT HAD TO DO WITH A RECLASSIFICATION FOR A LIBRARY CLERK TO THE OUTREACH LIBRARIAN. THIS WAS BROUGHT UP LAST TIME.
THERE WAS SOME TIME GIVEN TO MAKE ASSESSMENTS AND, IDA, YOU'RE HERE TO REALLY JUST PRESENT THE SAME MATERIAL.
GOOD AFTERNOON, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS.
I WAS HOPING THAT THIS ITEM WOULD GO AHEAD AND GO ON THROUGH TO SEE IF WE COULD GET THIS -- MY ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS TO A COMMUNITY OUTREACH LIBRARIAN FOR THE RURAL AREAS, FOR COMMUNITIES IN BANQUETTE, BISHOP. AND IT WAS NOT A CLERK POSITION.
SO I KNOW IT WAS AN ERROR. SO I JUST WANTED TO COME 24 AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ELABORATIONS.
>> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ ASKED FOR SOME MATERIAL.
WERE YOU ABLE TO GET HIM THE MATERIAL?
>> JUDGE, I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE SUPERINTENDENTS AND I'M
SATISFIED WITH IT. >> OH, THAT'S EXCELLENT.
ALL RIGHT. WILL YOU MAKE THE MOTION THEN TO
APPROVE AND I'LL SECOND FOR YOU. >> I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO
IF THERE'S -- ARE THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR
SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I-AYE.>> WE'LL LET YOU GET BACK.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'LL COME BACK INTO OUR REGULAR ORDER. AND APPARENTLY I DID NOT LOOK.
[5. Discuss and consider approval of adding Veterans Treatment Court services to list of approved donees of jury service fees, pursuant to Government Code Section 61.003 (a)(5).]
BUT SHE IS ONLINE. SO THANK YOU, AMANDA HAS ITEM NUMBER 5. THE VETERANS TREATMENT COURT SERVICES TO THE LIST OF APPROVED DONEES OF JURY SERVICE FEES.AMANDA, I DON'T KNOW THERE'S MANY QUESTIONS.
WE WANT TO GET THE COURT TO APPROVE.
VETERANS COURT BEING A RECIPIENT.
IS THAT CORRECT? >> I'M PRESENT.
IT'S ABOUT GETTING VETERANS TREATMENT COURT TO BE A
RECIPIENT FOR THE DONORS FEES? >> YES.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO ENSURE THAT GOING FORWARD, SHOULD SOMETHING HAPPEN TO THE GRANT, THE VETERANS TREATMENT COURT IS STILL ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THE VETERANS WHO
ARE PARTICIPANTS IN OUR PROGRAM. >> OKAY.
PERFECT. WELL, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. AND BEING ON THE LIST AS DONEES OF JURY SERVICE FEES, IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND. >> AND IS THERE ANY FURTHER
DISCUSSION FOR AMANDA? >> I'M SORRY.
I JUST WANT TO ALSO ADD THAT THIS WILL ALSO ALLOW US TO PROVIDE SERVICES THAT MAY NOT BE ALLOWABLE IN THE GRANT FOR PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROGRAM AS WELL.
>> I'M SO SORRY. SAY THAT AGAIN.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I DIGEST THAT.
YOU'RE INQUIRING WHETHER IT'S ALSO FOR THE PURPOSES OF -- I MAY HAVE TO REFER TO JENNY ON THAT ONE.
SAY IT AGAIN. >> IT'S IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR GRANT. FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD A VETERAN
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YESTERDAY WHO DID NOT HAVE A RIDE TO THE SALVATION ARMY.AND SECURITY WAS GOING -- TELLING HIM HE NEEDED TO LEAVE, BECAUSE HE WAS LOITERING. BUT HE'S HOMELESS.
SO WE WERE TRYING TO WORK FRANTICALLY TOGETHER TO GET THEM TRANSPORTED OVER THERE. ONE OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS ENDED UP GIVING HIM A RIDE THERE. HAD WE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES, THROUGH DONATIONS IS A CATEGORY WE COULD HAVE USED, WAS TO PROVIDE HIM A RIDESHARE SERVICE OR TAXI TO THAT PLACE.
>> JENNY, I THINK IT'S WITHIN THE REALM, AS LONG AS IT'S A SERVICE THAT VETERAN TREATMENT COURT.
BUT I MEAN I HAVE TO DEFER FOR O YOU.
>> I BELIEVE WE LOOKED AT THE CODE BEFORE.
THIS FITS WITHIN, YOU KNOW, VETERANS SERVICES.
THERE COULD BE SOME SERVICE. I SUSPECT THAT WOULDN'T FIT.
BUT WE'LL JUST HAVE TO SET SOME PARAMETERS.
AMANDA, I THINK WE'RE GOOD. BUT WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE MORE CLARITY PROVIDED TO YOU IN A DOCUMENT OR AT LEAST SOME GUIDANCE. OKAY.
>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> AYE. >> I HAVE KIND OF TOLD MYSELF EVERY THREE HOURS, YOU SHOULD TAKE THE 10-MINUTE BREAK.
[19. Discuss and consider providing funding to Robstown Area Development Commission for economic development services.]
I'M GOING TO -- >> CAN WE BUMP UP 19?
>> ABSOLUTELY. I KNOW SOMEONE ELSE IS WAITING HERE. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND -- THERE HE IS. I WAS LIKE I SAW HIM.
OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 19 IS BEING ASKED TO BE CONSIDERED AT THIS TIME. IT'S TO PROVIDE FUNDING TO THE ROBSTOWN AREA DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION FOR COMMISSION DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. JOHN IS BACK.
AND WE DON'T HAVE TO POINT OUT THAT WE'RE OBVIOUSLY INVOLVED IN BIG STUFF OVER THERE. BUT JOHN MAREZ, COMMISSIONER MAREZ, I'LL LET YOU TAKE THE LEAD HERE.
>> YEAH, JUDGE. RECENTLY BEEN NAMEDS A TESLA OUT THERE. WITH THAT AND I KNOW WITH MANY OTHER ECONOMIC POTENTIAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE MAKING, OBVIOUSLY NOT ONLY ROBSTOWN, BUT THE SURROUNDING AREAS THAT THEY REPRESENT. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GIVE THEM MORE FUNDING FOR OPERATIONAL COSTS, FOR JUST ADDITIONAL WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WORKING WITH ALL OF THE JURISDICTIONS THAT THEY -- THAT THEY REPRESENT OR HAVE GOOD PARTNERSHIPS WITH. SO THAT'S WHY I PUT THIS ITEM UP HERE TODAY. WE HAD PREVIOUSLY, LAST SEVERAL MEETINGS, ALLOCATED FUNDING THAT WAS AVAILABLE STILL FROM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL CALENDAR. AND SO I'M WANTING TO ALLOCATE THAT MONEY TO THE RADCFOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
>> OKAY. CAN YOU JUST TELL US THE AMOUNT?
>> MY ORIGINAL INTENT WAS $50,000.
>> YES. 60 ORIGINALLY ON THERE.
>> SO WE ALREADY ALLOCATED TEN AND THEN --
WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, THOUGH, I THINK THERE WAS 60 THAT WAS LEFT
>> WELL, AT THE LAST MEETING -- WELL, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO. AT THE LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT SPLIT THE 30 BETWEEN THE EDC IN ROBSTOWN.
>> I CAN TELL YOU BECAUSE I LOOKED AT THE BALANCE SHEET.
IT WOULDN'T -- I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAVE AS MUCH EFFECT AS IT WOULD ON THE RADC. THAT'S MY OWN OPINION FROM
SEEING THE FINANCIALS. >> IT JUST SEEMS TO ME WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE RADC COVERS THE COUNTY.
ROBSTOWN COVERS THAT AREA OF THE COUNTY ONLY.
>> HAVE SOME EQUITY TO COVER THE ENTIRE COUNTY, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT WE SHOULD BE GIVING MORE TO AN ORGANIZATION THAT COVERS THE ENTIRE COUNTY, THAN ONE THAT COVERS JUST PART OF THE COUNTY.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IN THEORY AT THE LAST MEETING WHEN THIS CAME UP. AND SO I MENTIONED THAT TO MR. MAREZ BEFORE THE MEETING. AND SO I THOUGHT HE WAS OKAY WITH THAT. BUT IF NOT, THEN --
>> WELL, HOW ABOUT IF WE -- >> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
>> 50. IN THE END, MY INTENT IS TO GIVE 50, WHETHER THERE'S ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT NEEDS TO COME OUT OF MY FUNDING AND I WILL DO THAT.
>> GIVE BOTH OF THEM 50,000. >> WELL, I THINK WE ONLY HAD 60.
THAT'S THE PROBLEM. >> I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME IN AND ASK BEFORE YOU GIVE.
LET'S LET CCRDCCOME IN AND ASK FOR MONEY.
THEY HAVEN'T ASKED FOR ANY MONEY.
WHY DON'T WE HOLD THE THOUGHT. >> JUDGE --
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>> I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO DO 50,000.
>> WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO, LIKE THIS SAYS AMOUNT REQUESTED
>> CURRENT LOCATION 10. ADDITIONAL 40.
>> CORRECT. >> WOULD ALIGN THE TOGETHER.
SO, IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S NOT FOR 50 TODAY.
BECAUSE OF THE DELTA. >> RIGHT.
AND SO WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS BEFORE I WAS JUST -- WE HAD 60 IN THAT EXCESS FUND, THAT WE WOULD SPLIT AT 30 AND 30.
AND I THINK JOHN WAS SAYING HE WOULD DO THE EXTRA TEN OUT OF HIS FUNDS. IF HE NEED -- IF HE NEEDED TO GET TO THAT NUMBER OF 50. BUT I DON'T WANT -- I HEAR YOU.
I HEAR YOU. I'M JUST SAYING TO YOU, WHY GIVE SOMEBODY MONEY THAT'S NOT ASKING FOR IT.
AND LET THEM COME AND ASK TO IT. JUST SO YOU KNOW, I WOULD WANT
TO KNOW -- >> I'M ASKING FOR IT, JUDGE.
I'M A MEMBER OF THIS COURT. SO I ASK FOR IT.
>> WE GIVE THEM 50. 50 EVERY YEAR.
, I ASK FOR IT AS A MEMBER OF THIS COURT.
WE HAD THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION THE LAST TIME.
I THOUGHT WE HAD KIND OF SORT AN IDEA OF WHAT I'M GOING.
I'M TRYING TO GET BACK TO THE IDEA I THOUGHT WE HAD, WHICH WAS TO SPLIT THE 60, 30 EACH. IF PEOPLE WANTED TO GIVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS ON TOP OF THAT TO GET A NUMBER, THAT THEY WOULD DO THAT. BECAUSE I INTEND TO GIVE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO THE RE DC OUT OF MY FUNDS, I'M TRYING TO PUT WORDS IN HIS MOUTH I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT COMMISSIONER MAREZ WAS DOING. I THOUGHT WE HAD AN AGREEMENT.
>> RIGHT. >> I'M GOING TO PUT THAT BACK
>> I DIDN'T KNOW. WE ONLY HAVE 60,000 IN THAT FUND. SO I THOUGHT THE 30 WAS GOING TO COME OUT. THAT GETS IT TO 40 AND THEN I THOUGHT JOHN WAS GOING TO GIVE TEN EXTRA.
>> MAYBE JOHN WANTS TO. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.
LOOK, FOR ME THE NUMBER IS 50. THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN GIVEN. THAT'S WHAT WE ALLOCATE PRETTY
THE 40 THEN. >> OUTSIDE AGENCY FUND.
>> I SECOND THE MOTION. >> WELL, AVE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. I'M GOING TO AMEND IT.
SO THE MOTION -- AND I WOULD THINK COMMISSIONER MAREZ -- THE MOTION IS THEN I'LL AMEND TO HAVE THE $40,000 TRANSFERRED OUT OF 1275. IS THAT RIGHT?
>> WHICH ONLY LEAVES 20 -- >> CONTINGENCY FUND.
>> SO $40,000. AND THAT MAKES FOR A TOTAL OF -- AND 30 COMES FROM THAT PARTICULAR CONTINGENCY FUND AND
TEN CO COMES FROM THE SPECIAL. >> WELL, I WANT TO MAKE IT 50.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE A TOTAL OF 60.
HAVE THE $11,500, PLUS AN ADDITIONAL $50,000.
THE $50,000 WAS THE NUMBER I WAS SET ON.
>> SO 30 COMES FROM? >> SO 30.
I'LL MAKE UP THE ADDITIONAL 20. >> OKAY.
RIGHT NOW THIS VOTE. $50,000 TOTAL.
>> SECOND THE MOTION. >> BUT WE STILL HAVE THE
>> THE TOTAL IS NOW $61,500? >> 30 FROM THIS FUND AND 20 FROM COMMISSIONER MAREZ. I'M GOING TO PUT THE IDENTICAL ADD-ON TO DO THE SAME THING FOR THE RADC.
>> I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE.
BUT I'LL TELL YOU WE KNOW MR. VOLS.
AND PLENTY OF PROJECTS HE CAN'T TALK ABOUT YET, THAT ARE GOING TO COME BEFORE US AGAIN. AND THEY'VE REALLY BEEN WORKING HARD. I KNOW THE NCDCHAS BEEN WORKING HARD, ESPECIALLY IN THE RURAL PARTS OF THE INTEREST IS IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M A STRONG SUPPORTER OF RADC. I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.
I ALSO WANT TO SEE THEM DELIVER. AND I THINK THAT THEY HELP START US TO BE FAIR. I THINK THEY HELP BIRD DOG ONE PROJECT AND GET IT OVER TO THE RADC.
>> THAT BODY LANGUAGE DID NOT CONCUR.
>> WELL, THAT WASN'T ON CAMERA. I'M GLAD IT WASN'T.
>> I THINK THAT -- THE WORK THAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE IS REALLY JUSTIFIED, YOU KNOW, OPERATIONAL.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I DID SPEAK WITH JASON GREEN. AND IT LOOKS LIKE DECEMBER THE 5TH IS WHEN HE'LL RESERVE SPACE FOR US.
>> AND THE MAYOR OF ROBSTOWN -- MAYOR GOMEZ IS AVAILABLE.
I HEARD SOMEBODY SAY 4:00. HE'S GOT A UTILITY BOARD MEETING AT 6:00. BUT HE SAID HE'S AVAILABLE.
AND HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO CONNECT WITH MAYOR GONZALEZ.
HE WORKS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
HE'S BUSY. >> AND DOES THE BUS.
>> ACTUALLY HE DRIVES THE BUS AS WELL.
>> WELL, LOOK, LET'S NOT MIX APPLES AND ORANGES.
WE'LL GET RIGHT BACK TO THAT. LET'S STICK WITH THIS ONE.
WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. YEAH.
IT WAS MY MOTION. >> BUT THEN HE --
>> I KNOW, KARA. HE HELPED EXPLAIN IT.
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>> TRYING TO CLARIFY. >> BUT THE MOTION I ALREADY HAD
ON THE FLOOR, IT WAS -- >> 40?
>> IT'S A COMBINATION -- IT'S A TOTAL OF $50,000 ALLOCATION.
30 OF WHICH COMES FROM CONTINGENCY FUND.
AND FOR THE RECORD, THOSE WERE FUNDS THAT WERE EARMARKED FOR THIS PURPOSE. AND THE REMAINDER COMES FROM
COMMISSIONER MAREZ'S S.R.? >> OKAY.
>> AND THEN THE OTHER $11,500 IS ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.
>> GENERAL FUND. >> GENERAL FUND BUDGET.
WHATEVER FUND THE BUDGET -- >> YES.
>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. >> DISCUSSION?
>> AND ALSO JUST A LITTLE DISCUSSION HERE.
COMMISSIONER CHESNEY WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT.
>> AND WHEN WE DID THIS FOR THE RADC, I TOLD THEM THE SAME THING. MY UNDERSTANDING IS PEOPLE GET PERCENTAGES OF MONEY THEY RAISE. BUT THIS CAN'T BE DONE FOR THIS.
THERE CAN'T BE COMMISSIONS PAID OUT OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR GIVING MONEY, RIGHT. I MEAN, THIS CAN'T BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE -- BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW.
SOME PEOPLE GET CHARGED WITH -- YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO TAKE MONEY OUT OF YOUR POCKET. THIS IS COMMISSIONER MAREZ'S REQUEST. I DON'T WANT IT TO BE A SITUATION WHERE THIS DIDN'T GO INTO THE RADC.
I HAD THE SAME CONVERSATION. THEY RAISE MONEY OVER THERE.
I DON'T WANT PUBLIC DOLLARS GOING TO PAYING COMMISSIONS IS WHAT I'M SAYING. I WANT TO MAKE SURE --
>> IT'S GOING TO GO TO LIKE STAFF, ORGANIZATIONAL FUNCTIONS.
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU DO. >> WE DON'T.
WE DON'T. NOT FROM PUBLIC DOLLARS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. >> THANK YOU.
HANG ON JUST ONE SECOND. I'M GOING TO BRING UP AN ITEM THAT -- AND I SHOULD HAVE HAD JUAN STAY FOR THIS ONE.
>> I THINK HE'S OUTSIDE. >> GRAB HIM FOR A MINUTE.
I'M GOING TO ADVANCE NUMBER 11 AND COME RIGHT BACK TO 8.
>> AND ALSO, JUDGE, ON THE VOTE REGARDING THE NOTICE.
>> I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> REGARDING THE WHAT?
>> NOTICE. I'VE GOT TO ACTUALLY TAKE A VOTE TO -- I THOUGHT WE HAD, JENNY. BUT I DON'T MIND REDOING IT.
>> I JUST WASN'T CLEAR THAT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE ACTUAL
>> IN THE MOTION, JOHN -- >> YES, MA'AM.
>> IN THE MOTION THAT WE MADE EARLIER TODAY, SO SET THE DATE FOR THE 313 ON DECEMBER 7TH, I ALSO -- I THOUGHT THERE WAS A MOTION. BUT JUST FOR CLARITY, I'M GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION TO PLACE -- DIRECT THE NOTICE TO BE POSTED.
AND IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
>> OKAY. JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT NOTICE --
>> THE REASON I WANT YOU TO HANG OUT.
LET'S SEE. >> HE'S NOT OUT THERE.
>> WELL, LET ME BRING UP THE ITEM AND JUST SO YOU CAN HEAR IT. BECAUSE I THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING ITEM FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS SOLVING
PROBLEMS TOGETHER. >> JUDGE, JUST A QUESTION.
>> THE ACCOUNT NUMBER THAT THAT 30,000 WAS IN?
>> THE CONTINGENCY FUND. >> BUT WHAT IS IT?
>> NO. I WAS WRONG ABOUT THAT.
>> IT WAS FROM THE CONTINGENCY FUNDS.
[11. Discuss and consider allocation of County Transportation Infrastructure Fund funds.]
THANK YOU. >> SO THE REASON I WANTED YOU TO HANG OUT IS BECAUSE ITEM NUMBER 11 IS TO HAVE A GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT THE COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDS.
THOSE ARE LOVINGLY REFERRED TO AS CTIF.
IF YOU'RE AN ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED COUNTY OR NOT, YOU GET A DIFFERENT RATIO. WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT BACK FROM 2020. I THINK $700,000.
BUT THE REASON IT'S GERMANE TO TODAY, COUNTY ROAD 36 IS NOT DRIVABLE. THE CONCRETE YARD IS THERE FOR THE HARPER BRIDGE. AS WELL AS MARTIN MARIETTA.
YOU HAVE HEAVY HAUL THERE. AND WHEN IT EXPOSES ITSELF, THE WAY IT HAS WITH TONS OF DIVOTS AND POTHOLES AND ALMOST A SINKHOLE, THEN THE WATERS DO COME, LIKE WE HAD A SUPER WET AUGUST, RIGHT. MOST RAIN WE'VE HAD IN HISTORY IN AUGUST OCCURRED. THIS AUGUST.
AND SO THEN IT FURTHER DETERIORATED.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH OUR INDUSTRIAL PARTNERS TO GET THEIR NEEDS ACCOMPLISHED.
AND THEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LAND LOCKED IN THERE, THAT HAVE TO USE THE CR36 CAN ACTUALLY FUNCTION.
SO I WAS GOING TO APPROACH RADC TO SAY, LOOK, HE REALLY DO NEED YOU. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GREAT AT.
YOU COULD REACH OUT TO FLAT IRON.
REACH OUT TO MARTIN MARIETTA. AND I REALIZE THAT THEY NEED TO TRAVERSE THAT ROAD AND THAT THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT IT DOING THE SAME THING AGAIN. WELL, THEN MAYBE THE CONVERSATION HAS TO BE THAT IT HAS TO BE CONCRETE.
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YOU KNOW, BUT THE CTIF FUNDS WILL BE AVAILABLE AGAIN THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION. AND SO I'M LOOKING TO EARMARKOUR NEW CTIF FUNDS FOR -- >> TO THAT AREA.
>> FOR CR36. BUT IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A PARTNERSHIP. AND COMMISSIONER MAREZ BROUGHT THIS TO MY ATTENTION, ALONG WITH, OF COURSE, EVERY OTHER NEIGHBOR THAT'S OUT THERE. AND IT'S JUST DETERIORATED WORSE. SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF IT. BECAUSE IT AFFECTS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IT AFFECTS THOSE INDUSTRIAL PARTNERS. AND MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN HELP, NO PUN INTENDED, BUT BRIDGE THIS GAP.
>> SURE. HAVE THEY BEEN APPROACHED
>> THAT CAN'T MEAN IT CAN'T BE SOLVED.
IF WE HAVE MONEY AT THE TABLE. SO AGAIN CTIF IS MEANT FOR OIL AND GAS, HEAVY HAUL, ROADS -- I'M SORRY.
LET ME REPHRASE. IT'S MEANT FOR ROADS THAT ARE VERY IMPACTED BY THE INDUSTRY. AND SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS HOPEFULLY THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION FOCUS ON MORE.
AND IT'S USUALLY 90/10, IF YOU'RE ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED AND 75/25. OR MAYBE IT'S 80/20.
SO, JUAN, CAN YOU TELL US THE 20/20 AGREEMENT WAS LIKE $700,000. DID WE RECEIVE THOSE FUNDS AND
SPEND THE FUNDS? >> I'M HAVING A MEETING WITH ANNA THIS NEXT WEEK. SO WE CAN GO OVER THE BUDGET.
I KNOW WE SUBMITTED OUR COSTS AND MATERIAL COSTS THAT WE USED FOR THOSE PROJECTS. AND ALSO THE IN-KIND.
>> YES, MA'AM. BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THE PREVIOUS HAVINGS AND THE GRANTS HAD SUBMITTED ALL OF THE PAPERWORK.
SO WE'RE JUST KIND OF -- THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING FOR
BUT FOR OUR PURPOSES, WE DON'T HAVE ANY 2020 CTIF.
>> NOT THAT I KNOW OF. >> FAIR ENOUGH.
REALLY MY AGENDA ITEM IS TO SAY, HEY, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS APPLY FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF CTIF. AND I'D LIKE TO ALLOCATE THOSE DOLLARS TO COUNTY ROAD 36 KNOWING THAT IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE ENOUGH. BUT IT WOULD BE THE MONEY -- THE SEED MONEY THAT WE COULD GO TO THE TABLE WITH, LET'S SAY AN INDUSTRIAL PARTNER OR THE CITY OR WHOEVER.
IT'S -- IT'S SO BAD AND I KNOW YOU KNOW HOW BAD IT IS.
IT'S SO BAD AS TO BE A DANGER. I'M ACTUALLY CONSIDERING MAKING IT A DANGER. IT'S THAT BAD.
>> JUDGE, I DON'T RECALL -- I THINK JUAN WAS ALREADY HERE.
BUT WE WENT INTO A PARTNERSHIP. SO I BELIEVE I PUT IN SOME FUNDING ORIGINALLY, DRAINAGE DISTRICT NUMBER 2 AND CITY OF ROBSTOWN. THERE WAS A WOODEN BRIDGE ON COUNTY ROAD 36 AND IT WAS IN HORRIBLE SHAPE BECAUSE OF THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE. AND THEN I BELIEVE FLAT IRON DONATED A BRIDGE SPAN, CONCRETE BRIDGE SPAN SO FIX THAT DECAYING BRIDGE. SO THEY'VE ALREADY PARTICIPATED THAT WAY. I KNOW MARTIN MARIETTA DOES COLD PATCHWORK, WHICH I MEAN IT'S SOMETHING.
WE ALL KNOW COLD PATCH IS NOT GOING TO LAST VERY LONG.
THAT'S THE ONE THING I ALWAYS HEAR FROM OUR RESIDENTS, AS SOON AS IT RAINS OR WHATEVER, IT'S GONE.
BUT BOTH COMPANIES HAVE PUT IN SOME EFFORT.
SO WE -- AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH BOTH -- WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM BOTH COMPANIES RECENTLY. SO THEY KIND OF -- KIND OF POINT OUT THAT'S WHAT THEY -- THAT'S BEEN THEIR BUY-IN, THEY'RE PART OF. I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN ACCESS THIS FUNDING, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
AND I AGREE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL -- ALL OF THE ENGINEERS PUT CONCRETE I THINK IS GOING TO BE THE ONE THAT HOLDS UP LONG-TERM, BECAUSE ASPHALT JUST GETS CHEWED UP WITH THOSE HEAVY, HEAVY TRUCKS. CONSTANTLY GOING THROUGH THERE AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY. SO I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD
USE FOR THAT FUNDING. >> SO I JUST GOT SOME VERIFICATION. SO CTIF WAS $311,000.
>> CORRECT. >> SO THAT WAS DESIGNATED BY THE STATE AS COUNTY ROAD 73A. THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO SAY, LOOK, WILL YOU CONCUR THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THE PROJECT, SO WE CAN GO FIGHT FOR IT. I HATE TO SAY THIS.
THE WORSE THE PROJECT, THE BETTER -- THE BETTER IT IS FOR
US TO GO FIGHT FOR IT. >> CORRECT.
>> BECAUSE IT'S SO BAD. IT'S LIKE SO OBVIOUS.
>> AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO PROBABLY BE SOME TYPE OF AN AGREEMENT. I'M NOT SURE, JUDGE.
BECAUSE THE ROAD DOES FALL WITHIN THE CITY OF ROBSTOWN.
>> RIGHT. IT WOULD BE AN INNER LOCAL.
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>> SO WE DON'T MAINTAIN IT. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I THINK FOR THE CTIF, WE SUBMITTED LIKE TEN PROJECTS, A LIST OF PROJECTS AT THAT TIME. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO GET WITH TXDOT. AND MAKE SURE IT'S ON THERE.
>> THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
I KNOW I EMAILED YOU ABOUT THAT. THAT IS CRITICAL BECAUSE WE -- WE CAN DO TWO THINGS. WE CAN SAY IT'S YOUR PROBLEM.
OR WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S WHY CITIES ARE INSIDE COUNTIES.
WHEN THEY DID CTIF, THEY MEANT IT TO BE INSIDE THE COUNTY.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A COUNTY ROAD.
THAT'S THE CLARIFICATION WE'RE TRYING TO GET FROM TXDOT RIGHT NOW. MAKE SURE ANY OTHER ROAD IS INCLUDED. 36 IS A HUGE LIABILITY, PERIOD.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT TO REALLY START WORKING ON.
>> OKAY. WITH THE FUTURE FUNDS.
I'M READY TO LOOK AT STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK FUNDS.
BUT ROBSTOWN -- THE CONNECTIVITY THERE IS REQUIRED, RIGHT.
IT'S HOOKING UP TO OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARES.
AND YOU HAVE TO USE 36 TO GET TO CERTAIN LOCATIONS.
NO OTHER CHOICE. >> YES, MA'AM.
>> SO I'LL JUST KIND OF PUT IT BACK ON AGAIN MAYBE IN LIKE A COUPLE OF -- A COUPLE OF COURTS. BUT I THINK THAT'S ONE THAT YOU'LL JUST ASK TXDOT. REALLY ALL YOU DO IS SUPPLEMENT.
JUST SUPPLEMENT YOUR LIST. I HAVE ALREADY PUT A CALL IN.
I'M NOT WILLING TO DO THE OLD WAITING GAME.
WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR TOO LONG. I WANT TO SEE THIS REALLY VANCE IMMEDIATELY, BEFORE SOMEBODY GETS KILLED.
>> OKAY. >> BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. IT'S THAT BAD.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. ALL RIGHT.
AND WE HAVE -- I'D LOVE TO TAKE A LITTLE BREAK HERE.
LET'S WORK UNTIL 2:00. AND THERE'S A LOT OF THESE THAT
[12. Discuss and consider approval of Interlocal Agreement with the Community Supervision and Corrections Department (CSCD) for the purposes of services and assistance to the Magistrates and the Nueces County District Courts and County Courts at Law to fulfill the additional duties required by Senate Bill 6.]
ARE GOING TO GO FAST. THE FIRST ONE IS THE APPROVAL -- BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT'S IN ORDER WITH THE INNER LOCAL.IT'S NUMBER 12. WITH CSCD CONDITION AND THE DISTRICT COURT. THIS IS ALL UNDER SB6.
THANK YOU TO THE STATE OF TEXAS. JENNY, EVERYTHING IS GOOD HERE I
>> YES, THAT WAS WORKED THROUGH OUR OFFICE.
>> WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE EMPLOYEES, TWO OF THEM CURRENTLY BEING PAID FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
ONE IS BEING PAID FROM THE ARPA FUNDS.
THEY ALL DO THE SAME QUALIFICATIONS.
>> IT WOULD BE -- WE'RE KEEPING IT THE SAME?
OKAY. SO, IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S FOR ANOTHER FISCAL YEAR, RIGHT. IT'S $153,000 FROM ARPA FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, FOR THAT ONE EMPLOYEE?
>> NO, THE $150,000. THE ENTIRE AMOUNT.
WHAT'S ARPA? JUST SO WE CAN KEEP IT.
>> AROUND $40,000, $50,000. >> THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN
BUCKETED, RIGHT? >> JUST A RATIFICATION OF AN
AGREEMENT? >> THERE WAS A REQUIRED CHANGE.
BECAUSE IT WAS -- CALLED A RISK ASSESSMENT.
AND SENATE BILL CHANGED HOW IT WAS WRITTEN.
>> NO MORE MONEY THAT WE HAVE ALLOCATED?
MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
[13. Discuss and consider the ratification of the hiring of the Head Public Defender, Danica Obregon.]
THIS IS -- YOU MET HER LAST WEEK.
DANICA BREGON. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AND THEN, ALL RIGHT, GOING BACK TO -- LET'S SEE.
ANYBODY ELSE WAITING HERE? DARRYL, I'LL TRY TO TAKE CARE OF
[17. Discuss and consider resolution requesting the City of Corpus Christi to formally annex a portion of County Road 18 from State Highway 286 to County Road 43 and County Road 43 from Farm to Market Road 2444 to County Road 18.]
YOU SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR HOURS.>> JUDGE, 1 -- 17 IS PRETTY QUI. AN -- ANNEXING THE AREAS TO 244
AND TO COUNTY ROAD 18. >> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO PASS
THIS RESOLUTION. >>> AND AGAIN JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, WE'RE ASKING THE CITY TO FORMALLY ANNEX.
THEY ALREADY KNOW IT'S COMING AND THEY'VE ALREADY INDICATED
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THAT THIS WOULD BE WELCOMED. >> IT WAS THEIR INSTIGATION, WE HAVE TO REQUEST. BECAUSE WE'RE THE LANDOWNER NOW.
>> I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT ON THE RECORD.
JUST FOR THE RECORD. >> AND THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
>> OKAY. DARRYL, YOU'VE GOT TWO.
>> 18 IS QUICK, TOO. >> AND ALSO MICHAEL HAS BEEN
[4. Discuss and consider reclassification of Systems Analyst (pay group 32) to a Supervisor of Systems Analyst (pay group 34).]
[5. Discuss and consider reclassification of Systems Analyst (pay group 32) to a Sr. Systems Analyst (pay group 33).]
HERE FOREVER. SO, DARRYL, FIRST.THE RECLASSIFICATIONS. YOU'VE GOT A SYSTEMS ANALYST.
>> AS THEY SAY, SOME MOVEMENT BUT DOESN'T CHANGE YOUR BUDGET.
TELL US ABOUT IT. >> NO BUDGET CHANGE.
YES. WE HAVE SIX SYSTEMS ANALYSTS IN THE I.T. DEPARTMENT. AND ONE OF THOSE IS EMPTY RIGHT NOW. BUT A COUPLE OF THEM WERE SENIOR ANALYSTS AND WE'VE GOT TWO THAT ARE REGULAR SYSTEMS ANALYSTS.
AND THAT'S A LITTLE OUT OF PARITY.
BECAUSE THE TWO THAT ARE JUST AT SYSTEMS ANALYSTS ARE A LITTLE BIT OLDER, LIKE MYSELF. AND HAVE BEEN IN IT FOR A VERY LONG TIME. SO THEY'VE GOT A WHOLE LOT OF EXPERIENCE. SO IT'S KIND OF A PARITY FIX.
ONE OF THOSE QUALIFIES AS A SUPERVISOR.
THAT'S THE BIGGEST DEAL ON THIS. ONE OF THEM IS TO GET FROM A SYSTEMS ANALYST TO A SENIOR POSITION.
BUT THE OTHER ONE, THAT'S CREATING A NEW POSITION, THAT SUPERVISES THE WHOLE ANALYST STAFF.
AND THIS IS ALL IN THE TECHNICAL SIDE.
I EMPHASIZED THE WORD "SUPERVISOR" NOT MANAGER, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ABOUT PERSONNEL.
IT'S ABOUT TECHNICAL PROJECTS. SO THE SUPERVISION IS STILL AN ANALYST. STILL WORKS ON PROJECTS OF THEIR OWN. BUT AS IT TRACKS WITH THE PAY GROUP, IS THAT A SYSTEMS ANALYST IS THE 32, SENIOR ANALYST IS A 33. AND THEN THIS SUPERVISOR POSITION WOULD BE A 34. THERE WOULD ONLY BE ONE SUPERVISING ANALYST. I'M ALREADY SEEING SOME GREAT IMPROVEMENT IN THAT AREA. BUT THE FUNDS -- BOTH OF THESE POSITIONS, WHICH IS SOMETHING I WANTED TO DO ANYWAY, IS TO FREEZE ONE OF THE MICROCOMPUTER SPECIALIST POSITIONS.
SO THE SAVINGS AND SALARY WOULD ACTUALLY BE A POSITIVE.
THERE WON'T BE A NEGATIVE IMPACT AND CERTAINLY WE DON'T HAVE TO MOVE ANY FUNDS INTO THE I.T. SALARY BUDGET.
>> AND AGAIN JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT THERE.
ALL THIS GETS TO HAPPEN BECAUSE SOMEONE IS LEAVING AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO REPLACE THEM. BECAUSE THAT'S ALWAYS THE CONCERN. IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE RESHUFFLING THE DECK. AND STILL GOING TO HAVE A POSITION THAT'S OPEN. THAT POSITION IS GOING AWAY.
AND THAT ALLOWS FOR THE RESHUFFLING IN THE MANNER THAT YOU BELIEVE IS BEST FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT?
WE HAVE TWO MICROCOMPUTER SPECIALISTS POSITIONS THAT HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FILLED. AND WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE, ONLY ONE OF THOSE WILL BE FILLED AND THE OTHER ONE WILL BE FROZEN, WHICH IS FINE. BECAUSE IT'S REALLY MOSTLY AN
ENTRY-LEVEL POSITION. >> OKAY.
>> THESE PEOPLE THAT WE -- THAT ARE MOVING UP, BECAUSE OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE LEFT THE DEPARTMENT. AND THEN THESE TWO POSITIONS, THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY HIGHLY EXPERIENCED AND WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE ANY OF THEM. SO I FEEL LIKE THE RESTRUCTURING WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE I.T. DEPARTMENT, THERE ARE OTHER ITEMS WE HAVE GOING ON TO GET EVERYBODY BACK TO THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
BUT IT'S GETTING EVERYTHING LINED UP REAL WELL, WHERE WE CAN FOCUS ON MORE PROJECTS THAN A LOT OF THEM EVEN REALIZE WE NEEDED ON THE TABLE AND BE WORKING ON.
SO IT'S GOING TO VAMP US UP QUITE A BIT TO WHERE EVERYBODY IS EQUALLY BUSY AS WELL. AND THERE'S PLENTY TO DO AND WE CAN SURVIVE WITHOUT THE SECOND MICROCOMPUTER SPECIALIST
POSITION BEING FILLED. >> UNDERSTOOD.
>> IS THERE A QUESTION? >> YEAH.
IS IT FREEZING OR IS IT DOING AWAY WITH THE POSITION? BECAUSE IF WE FREEZE IT, THEN -- IF HE UNFREEZES AT SOME POINT,
IT'S GOING TO BE A BUDGET HIT. >> RIGHT NOW THERE'S -- LIKE I SAID, TWO POSITIONS. ONE IS VACANT POSITION.
AND HE'S SAYING, YOU KNOW, HE WILL NOT FILL THE POSITION FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. MOST LIKELY FREEZE THE POSITION TO BE ABLE TO QUALIFY THE TWO INCREASES.
NOW ONCE THIS COMES UP AND WE HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO COURT TO UNFREEZE IT. OR ELIMINATE IT OR RE-ESTABLISH
>> SO WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS SUBJECT TO THAT POSITION BEING FROZEN INDEFINITELY, UNTIL BEING
BROUGHT BACK TO THE COURT? >> CORRECT.
>> HOW ABOUT LET'S DO THAT. THAT SOUNDED PRETTY GOOD.
>> ALL RIGHT. I'LL TAKE THAT AS A MOTION
BECAUSE OF HOW YOU SAID IT. >> SECOND.
>> THREE AND FOUR. >> FOUR AND FIVE.
>> THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO DO BOTH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME.
THAT'S FINE WITH THE CLERK, RIGHT? MOTION AND A SECONDED BY GONZALEZ.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR DARRYL? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
[1. Discuss and consider reinstatement of “Telecom Management Services Agreement” between Nueces County and Televon.]
>> DARRYL, WHILE YOU'RE HERE, YOU'RE ASKING US TO REINSTATE AN
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A DIFFERENT TERM THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WANTED US TO USE. RE-AUTHORIZING IT.
I SENT THE LETTER CERTIFIED. IT GOT DROPPED OFF TO SOMEBODY.
IT WASN'T TELL. THEY HAD MOVED AND I DIDN'T HAVE THEIR CURRENT ADDRESS, WHICH I HAVE NOW.
BUT, ANYWAY, IT LED TO US GOING BACK AND FORTH.
BECAUSE I REALIZED THEY WERE STILL WORKING OUT THERE.
AND SO WE HAD SOME EMAILS GO AROUND.
AND SO I TOLD THEM ABOUT THE TERMINATION.
BECAUSE I HAD TO INQUIRE ABOUT IT.
THAT'S WHEN I FOUND OUT THEY NEVER RECEIVED IT.
SO, OF COURSE, THEY WONDER ABOUT WHY IT WAS HAPPENING AND A LOT OF TRACK OF TRANSPARENCY IN THE PROGRAM.
I WASN'T GETTING ENOUGH INFORMATION OUT OF THEM.
TELEVON AUDITS THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS SERVICES.
AND ALMOST 100% IS LOOKING AT VERY OLD TELEPHONE LINES.
AND THE COUNTY HAS A LOT OF THEM.
AND THEY REALLY NEED TO GO AWAY. SO, ANYWAY, IF LIGHT OF ALL OF THIS, THEY ENDED UP SENDING ME ALL THE INFORMATION THAT I'D BEEN WANTING IN A SPREADSHEET. AND IT WAS A VERY GOOD INFORMATION, JUST WHAT I'D BEEN LOOKING FOR.
AND WE FOLLOWED THAT THE NEXT DAY WITH A VERY LENGTHY MEETING, WHERE WE COVERED QUITE A BIT OF TERRITORY.
OUT OF OUR CONVERSATION I REALIZED THAT I COULD USE THEM QUITE A BIT, AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON OUR END, WHICH IS TO ELIMINATE THESE LINES. SOME OF THEM WILL GO AWAY.
OTHERS WILL GET MODERNIZED TO WHERE IT'S A DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGY. WE DON'T USE OLD PHONE LINES ANYMORE. IF YOU WONDER ABOUT THESE, FAX LINES THAT USE OLD TELEPHONE LINES.
COULD BE THE MAIN PHONE NUMBER AT A COMMUNITY CENTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THAT WE CAN MODERNIZE.
AND THEN ALSO THE -- YOU ARE INTRUSION ALARMS AND FIRE ALARMS USE THESE AS WELL. WE HAVE DEVICES WE CAN -- WE CAN PUT IN EQUIPMENT FOR FAX AND VOICE LINES THAT MODERNIZE THEM.
MAKE THEM USE CELL TECHNOLOGY. AND THEN THE INTRUSION ALARMS AND THE FIRE ALARMS, THEY HAVE DEVICES.
THEY CAN SWITCH OUT WHERE THEY CAN DO THE SAME THING.
AND SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS KEEP TELL VON ONBOARD. THEY'LL WORK WITH US THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS AND IT WILL KIND OF SELF-EXHAUST. WHENEVER WE HAVE ELIMINATED ALL OF THESE LINES, THEN WE WILL PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT A
TERMINATION AT THAT TIME. >> OKAY.
>> BUT THEY DO STILL REALIZE SOME SAVINGS.
THAT'S JUST GETTING LESS AND LESS.
>> OKAY. >> SO YOU GUYS HAVE WORKED IT OUT. AND THIS IS READY TO GO?
WELL, THEN IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE NEW AGREEMENT? OR THE REINSTATEMENT OF THE AGREEMENT?
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
DARRYL, I THINK THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE ON THIS AGENDA TODAY.
AND JUST KIND OF IN A STRANGE WAY, WORKING BACKWARDS HERE.
BUT LOOKING FOR THE EASY LOW-HANGING FRUIT.
I JUST ASK IF THE CONSTABLE WAS GETTING BACK.
THAT'S WHY I'M SKIPPING NUMBER TWO.
[24. Discuss and consider clarification for Human Resources to implement changes to County Attorney pay groups included within the 2022-2023 Nueces County Budget; and related matters.]
DALE, YOU HAVE ONE BUDGET CHANGE ORDER.THEN I WANTED TO GO TO THIS ITEM NUMBER 24 TO HAVE YOU HELP ME WITH GETTING THE PAY GROUPS STRAIGHTENED OUT FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. BUT ON YOUR BUDGET CHANGE ORDER,
WE CAN DO THAT ONE QUICKLY? >> VERY, VERY QUICKLY.
FIRST CHANGE ORDER FOR THE FISCAL YEAR.
THIS REQUIRES THE BILLING SUPERINTENDENT HAS AN EMPLOYEE THAT'S GOING ON AN EXTENDED MILITARY LEAVE.
THEY DON'T WANT TO BE SHORTHANDED.
MOVING SALARY AMOUNTS TO COVER TEMPORARY, SO MAKE SURE THEY
KEEP THE DEPARTMENT RUNNING. >> OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE
THAT BUDGET CHANGE ORDER. >> SECOND.
>> HOW LONG? >> EXTENDED PERIOD.
EXTENDED LEAVE. >> UP TO TWO WEEKS?
>> LENGTHY MILITARY LEAVE. >> A DEPLOYMENT OR SOMETHING.
AGAIN I'VE GOT THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
JUST LOOKING FOR A SECOND. >> SECOND.
>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AND GOING BACK. LET'S SEE HERE.
IN TIME. IT'S THE CLARIFICATION FOR THE IMPLEMENTAL CHANGES TO THE PAY GROUPS.
24. JUST TO KIND OF FINISH THE WHOLE
>> NUMBER 24. >> JUST A CLARIFICATION.
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>> I CAN EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED. WHEN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SUBMITTED THEIR REQUEST FOR BUDGET RECLASSIFICATIONS, DURING THE YEAR, THEY HAD TWO VACANCIES AND FORGOT TO INCLUDE THOSE VACANCIES. AND WHEN WE STARTED -- WHEN WE ADOPTED THE BUDGET, WE MADE SURE THEY WERE THE SAME FOR ALL INDIVIDUALS. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE H.R. AND EVERYBODY HAS IT. ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT WERE QUALIFYING FOR THE RAISE, FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ARE QUALIFIED AND MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TO BE -- TO BE RECLASSIFIED. SO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN THE SAME
GROUP, PER POSITION CODE. >> AGAIN THIS IS NO ADDITIONAL
COST THE WAY I READ THIS. >> NO ADDITIONAL COST.
>> NO ADDITIONAL COST. JUST THE CLARIFICATION.
>> THE MOTION TO CLARIFY. >> OKAY.
BY GONZALEZ. ON 24 AND ALL THOSE -- IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
>> OKAY. PROBABLY AN EXCELLENT TIME WITH FIVE MINUTES BEFORE 2:00. WHEN WE COME BACK, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE ONLY HAVE TWO MAJOR ITEMS TO TALK ABOUT.
IT'S GOING TO CENTER AROUND PRESENTATIONS FROM ABMREGARDING
THE COUNTY AND LAN. >> DID WE DO 16 AND 18?
>> NO, I'M SAYING WHEN WE COME BACK FROM OUR BREAK, THAT WE'LL HANDLE TWO MAJOR OBJECTS, ONE IS THE TIRZ AND THE COUNTY WIDE PROJECTS. SO WE'LL BE BACK.
>> 18? >> THAT'S A QUICK ONE JUDGE.
IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A BREAK. >> I'M JUST GOING TO GO TO THE BATHROOM AND LET EVERYBODY ELSE. I'M AN HOUR BEYOND WHERE I REALLY WANTED IT TO BE. SO WE'LL DO -- I'LL TAKE A MOTION FOR THIS ONE. I'D LIKE TO COME BACK AT 2:15.
THAT GIVES EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO GET SOMETHING.
I'LL SECOND IT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
>> OKAY. SEE YOU ALL BACK HERE.
>>> ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO DOCTOR HERE COMES MISS JENNY. IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD GET IDA HERE FOR THIS. BECAUSE IT'S ERP.
BUT I'M GOING TO AT LEAST GO REAL SLOW HERE AND LET EVERYBODY GET A CHANCE TO COME IN. BUT IT'S 2:23 P.M.
YOU KNOW WHAT I FORGOT, LORENZO. DID I GIVE YOU A TIME? EMMA SAID SHE CAUGHT IT. I'M NOT SURE I SAID IT.
BUT I WAS THINKING IT. TELEPATHICALLY.
IT WAS LIKE FIVE MINUTES UNTIL TWO.
I WOULD HAVE CALLED IT 1:55. HERE COMES EVERYBODY.
COMING BACK ON THE RECORD, WE'RE GOING TO LET MICHAEL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION AND THEN WE'LL CONCLUDE WITH THE TIRZ CONVERSATION. AND I'M SORRY, NOT CONCLUDE.
BUT MOVE INTO TIRZ AND THEN FINALLY TO OUR ENERGY SAVINGS
[1. Discuss and consider conditional selection for RFP No. 3193-22 Nueces County Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) System and Replacement of Timeclocks.]
PERFORMANCE CONTRACTS. AND SO LET'S MOVE TO MICHAEL.>> THIS SHOULD BE ITEM 3C1. >> THANKS, MICHAEL.
WE HAD RECEIVED THREE PROPOSALS AND THAT THE COUNTY MET AND MADE A RECOMMENDATION FOR ALIGHT SOLUTIONS WORK DAY.
THERE WAS A PRESENTATION THAT THAT CAME TO COURT LAST WEEK.
I PASSED OUT THE AMOUNTS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE FINANCED, DEPENDING ON THE OPTIONS THAT YOU CHOOSE.
SO AT THIS POINT WE'RE JUST -- WE NEED THE VOTE OF THE COURT ON WHICH DIRECTION THEY'D LIKE THE COUNTY TO TAKE ON THE ENTERPRISE-WIDE SOFTWARE SOLUTION.
AND THEN THAT WILL HELP US TO GET WITH N-O-E- AND FINALIZE THE
OPTIONS. >> I'M GOING TO BRING DARRYL UP.
BRING US BACK TO -- MY RECOLLECTION IS ALIGHT AND WORK DAY, WHICH WAS THE OPTION IN THE MIDDLE, WE WERE ABLE TO ASK YOU TO GO BACK, MICHAEL, AND REALLY LOOK AT IT AND HAVE EVERYBODY'S COMPARISONS. AND, DARRYL, JUST AGAIN FOR THE RECORD, WORK DAY REPRESENTS ALL THE TOOLS THAT WE NEED INSIDE THIS SOFTWARE. AND SO DOES PRECISION.
BUT THE FIRST ONE DOES NOT. THERE IS A DISPARITY ON THE DOLLARS. THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPLYING ALL THAT WE TRULY NEED IN THE GLOBAL
SENSE OF THE SOFTWARE. >> YES.
MY GREATEST CONCERN, OF COURSE, IS FROM AN I.T. ANGLE.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AS THE TYPE OF APPLICATION THAT WE'RE SPEAKING OF HERE. SO THE CONCERN FROM I.T. IS THAT
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THE -- THE MORE EXPENSIVE ONE IS GOING TO BE THE MORE PREMIERE ONE, IN TERMS OF OPERATING WELL, AS A SOFTWARE -- AS A SERVICE SOLUTION. AND SO WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE -- THE INTEGRITY OF IT, IN THE SENSE THAT WORK DAY IS MUCH MORE MODERNIZED, DESIGNED TO RUN IN THE CLOUD.IT HAS MANY MORE AUTOMATION FEATURES TO IT AND MORE INTEGRATION FEATURES. IN LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, I'M LITED ON INFORMATION THAT I CAN PROVIDE.
COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HAD ASKED SOME INFORMATION FROM CONSULTANTS I SPEAK WITH. I CAN'T PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THE BIDS THEMSELVES. AND WHAT THEY DON'T DO IS THEY DON'T PROVIDE NEGATIVE REPORTS ON ANYONE.
THEY GATHER INFORMATION -- THEY WORK WITH MANY CLIENTS.
SO PER A SOFTWARE REVIEW, IN VIEW OF WHAT THEY HAVE, I HAD 260 RESPONDENTS FOR WORK DAY THAT WEIGHED THEM OUT.
AND ON THE AVERAGE, THEY HAD -- AND UP TO 80% APPROVAL ACROSS THE ASPECTS THAT GET MEASURED. AND THERE AT THE ENTERPRISE LEVEL, MADE A COUPLE OF THE LISTS IN THERE.
THEY HAD SOME REQUEST, BUT ONLY WITH 11 RESPONDENTS.
AND THEY WERE IN THE MID-SIZED CATEGORY.
THAT'S WHY IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO FIND THEM ANYWAY.
BUT THERE WAS QUITE A CONTRAST IN THE REVIEWS THAT WERE RECEIVED. AND MY AREA OF CONCERN IS THE FUNCTIONALITY OF IT, HOW IT'S GOING TO PERFORM FOR US, HOW WE CAN AUTOMATE WITH IT. WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING A LOT WITH THIS SYSTEM. GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
I DO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THE HUMAN CAPITAL MANAGEMENT PIECE TO IT AND WORK DAY, WHICH IS USED BY WALMART, WHO HAS OVER 3 MILLION EMPLOYEES THAT USE IT GLOBALLY.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE CONCERN COMES IN.
EVERYBODY MAKES THEIR DEMOS LOOK REAL GOOD.
BUT ANOTHER THING IS I'M IN A COMMUNITY, WHERE I SEE -- BECAUSE WE DO RUN EXUCU, TIME. IT'S A PORTION OF WHAT WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING. I SEE EMAILS GOING AROUND AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE A BLOG. IT'S ACTUALLY THIS COMMUNITY BELONGS TO THE VENDOR ITSELF. SO THEY'RE INCLUDED IN IT AS WELL. BUT I SEE A WHOLE LOT OF -- IT'S VERY MODULAR THE WAY IT'S PUT TOGETHER.
THE MODULES CAME ABOUT AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
AND YOU HAVE CLIENTS OUT THERE THAT ARE RUNNING VARIOUS VERSIONS OF THE DIFFERENT MODULES, AS OPPOSED TO THE ONE THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING, BEING A SINGLE APPLICATION.
THERE'S JUST -- ALL THE CLIENTS RUN ON ONE VERSION, THE SAME VERSION ACROSS THE BOARD. AND THAT MAKES A LOT OF DIFFERENCE, BECAUSE THE FIRST THING YOU WANT TO KNOW IS, OKAY, IF I CHOOSE SOMEBODY THAT HAS CLIENTS WITH VARYING VERSIONS AT THE MODULAR LEVEL, WHAT ARE YOU GOING -- HOW HOW DO YOU PUT TOGETHER THE ROAD MAP OF WHAT OUR SOFTWARE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. EXECU HAS ONE VERSION.
YOUR H.R. VERSION HAS A DIFFERENT VERSION.
WHICH VERSION -- WHEN YOU PUT THE WHOLE SYSTEM TOGETHER, WHAT VERSION ARE WE GETTING OF EVERYTHING.
IT KINDS KIND OF CONFUSING WHEN I LOOK AT THESE PEOPLE ABOUT HOW THEY SURVIVE. SOMEBODY HAS A PROBLEM.
AND THEY GET TOLD, WELL, YOU'RE NOT RUNNING THE RIGHT VERSION OF THIS MODULE. AND SO THEY GET THAT VERSION AND IT MAY BREAK SOMETHING ELSE. AND SO IT'S JUST -- JUST KEEPS STEMMING FROM THAT. SO I CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE RUNNING IN A CLOUD. DEMOS LOOK REALLY GOOD.
WHEN YOU PUT ON 100, 200 PEOPLE USING THIS SYSTEM SIMULTANEOUSLY AND YOU'RE TRYING TO GET FULL FUNCTIONALITY OUT OF IT, I'M SEEING WHERE THESE PEOPLE AREN'T GETTING IT.
IT NEVER SEEMS TO BE REAL CLEAN OUT THERE THE WAY THAT IT'S RUNNING. AND VERY CONCERNED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO AUTO MATE. MEANING YOU HAVE WORK FLOW PROCESSES, SO THAT WE CAN GO FROM A POSITION CREATION, ALL
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THE WAY THROUGH AN APPLICATION PROCESS AND ONBOARDING, AND THE SYSTEM IS AUTOMATICALLY CREATING CERTAIN ACCOUNTS, WORKS WITH OUR NETWORK DOMAIN TO CREATE ACCOUNTS FOR US.AND NOTIFIES US VIA EMAIL. AND IF YOU'RE -- IF YOU'RE USING THEY -- IF YOU'RE USING THIRD-PARTY PRODUCTS, ONE THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING INTEGRATES WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT PLAYERS OUT THERE. SO I JUST SEE WHERE IT'S -- IT'S JUST GOT ALL OF THE MODERN FUNCTIONALITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO WANT IN THE SYSTEM. AND, OF COURSE, DALE WOULD HAVE TO SPEAK MORE ON THE -- AS AN ERP SYSTEM, IT'S MORE WITH A FINANCE GROUP, WHERE THEY'RE DOING PAYROLL, ASSET MANAGEMENT.
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PIECES TO THIS.
SO I'M JUST -- I HAVE TO LEAN TOWARDS THE ONE THAT'S MOST MODERNIZED AND MOST RUNNING AS A SINGLE APPLICATION.
IT'S ALL THE COMPANY DOES. AND ALL THEIR CLIENTS RUNNING ON THE SINGLE VERSION. JUST SAYS A LOT FOR ITSELF.
THAT'S WHERE I HAVE TO PUT MY SUPPORT.
I WANT EVERYBODY TO FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT AS AN I.T.
DIRECTOR AND OUR WHOLE I.T. DEPARTMENT, WHATEVER DECISION IS MADE, I.T. WILL BE FULLY BEHIND IT, TO MAKE IT GO AS WELL AS POSSIBLE. AND WE'LL WANT IT TO GO GOOD.
WHATEVER IS CHOSEN. AND SO THAT'S THE KIND OF SUPPORT THAT WE'LL GO FORWARD WITH.
THE OTHER TYPE OF SUPPORT IS ABOUT SUPPORTING THE DECISION WHERE WE'RE PUTTING ACCOUNTABILITY OUT THERE.
AND THEN THAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT PUTTING MY ACCOUNTABILITY ON THE LINE FOR SOMETHING THAT I JUST DON'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT.
>> UNDERSTOOD. IN LIGHT OF THAT, I MEAN, I -- I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO RELY ON THE EXPERT.
AND IT SEEMS AFTER THOROUGH VETTING, THAT W WORK DAY IS THE BEST SOLUTION FOR NUECES COUNTY, FOR THE REASONS THAT YOU FORTH.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SELECT WORK DAY AND MOVE FORWARD IN THIS TRANSITION. THAT CERTAINLY WILL TAKE SOME TIME. BEFORE WE GET INTO DISCUSSION,
IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? >> SECOND.
IF ANYBODY HAS ANY THOUGHTS. >> I DO.
>> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY DOES. GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU. DARRELL, I COULDN'T TO TELL YOU.
I COULDN'T BE ANY MORE DISAPPOINTED IN THIS PRESENTATION TODAY. WE HAD A MEETING THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE. IT WAS REPRESENTED THAT YOU WOULD BE PROVIDING ME SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
AND ANALYZE AND BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH.
AND I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU UNTIL 8:20 THIS MORNING, WHEN YOU TRIED TO REACH OUT TO ME WHILE I WAS TRYING TO GET MY FINAL PREPARATIONS FOR COURT. DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME.
SO I'M GOING TO MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR.
I HAVE NO COMFORT LEVEL WHATSOEVER WITH THIS.
BECAUSE I HAVE AGAIN NOTHING IN THE BACKGROUND TODAY, IN THE DOCUMENTATION THAT PROVIDES ANYTHING IN WRITING THAT COMPARES THESE TWO THINGS. I'VE GOT A BID ANALYSIS THAT SAID THAT ALL THREE -- THAT SAID THE TWO -- THAT THE ONE THAT'S THE LOWEST MEETS ALL THE RESPONDENTS.
YES, YES, YES, YES. THEY'RE LOWER.
I HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG FOR BACKUP ON THIS. SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT I COULD UNDERSTAND. AND I'VE HAD ABSOLUTELY ZERO.
SO I AM SUPER FRUSTRATED WITH THIS.
I AM NOT HAPPY ABOUT THIS. I'M STILL NO MORE COMFORTABLE IN VOTING FOR THIS THAN I WAS BEFORE.
AND I AM -- I CAN'T -- I'M -- IT'S -- I'M -- THIS IS THE FIRST BIG DEAL. AND, DARRELL, I GOT TO TELL YOU I'M REALLY UNHAPPY WITH THIS. I'M GOING TO VOTE "NO" TO THAT VOGUES. BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS. BECAUSE I'M NOT COMFORTABLE.
AND EVERYBODY GETS TO MAKE THEIR DECISION THE WAY THEY WANT TO.
I'M NOT COMFORTABLE JUST LISTENING TO YOU TELL ME THAT IT'S OKAY. I HAVE TOLD YOU WHAT GETS ME COMFORTABLE. AND NO ONE HAS PROVIDED TO ME IN MONTHS. SO THIS IS STILL WRONG THE WAY WE'RE DOING THIS. AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONE THAT'S LOWER DOES MEET EVERYTHING. BECAUSE IT SAYS, YES, YES, YES, YES, ON THE ADDENDUMS AND ALL I HAVE TO GO ON IS PEOPLE TELLING ME -- THAT'S -- I HAVE BEEN HERE EIGHT YEARS AND I HAVE NEVER SAID IT WAS OKAY JUST TO TELL ME SOMETHING.
FOR EIGHT YEARS I'VE BEEN CONSISTENT AND SAID PLEASE PROVIDE ME THE BACKUP. PLEASE SHOW ME WHAT I NEED.
I MEAN, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME I'VE SAID IT.
IT'S NOT THE LAST TIME. AND I'VE GOT NOTHING TO BASE A DECISION ON, OTHER THAN YOUR WORD.
NO OFFENSE. NOT THAT I DON'T TRUST YOU.
BUT I DON'T GO ON ANYBODY'S WORD WITHOUT BACKUP.
I'M GOING TO ASK QUESTIONS NO MATTER WHAT.
NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE. AND, I MEAN, THIS IS NOT -- THIS IS NOT -- I'M JUST -- I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO ASK.
I'VE TOLD YOU. I DON'T UNDERSTAND I.T. WELL ENOUGH TO EVEN FOLLOW THREE-QUARTERS OF WHAT YOU SAID.
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YEAH, I HAVE TO RELY ON WHAT YOU SAID.BUT I HAVE TO GO READ IT. AND IT WAS -- COMMISSIONER, YOU'LL DO IT, THE JUDGE SAID, HEY, WILL YOU SHARE WITH ME.
SURE, WHEN I FIGURE OUT WHO THAT IS.
I HAVE NOTHING TO SHARE, BECAUSE NOBODY IS GIVING ME ANYTHING.
SO I'M -- I'M IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM READY TO VOTE ON THIS, BASED ON THE LACK OF INFORMATION THAT I'VE BEEN PROVIDED.
THANK YOU. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'VE GOT A FEW. MY CONCERN IS, AND YOU KNOW THIS FROM THE PRESENTATION, WE DO NEED TO MAKE A DECISION.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR COMMENTS ARE -- I DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON IT TODAY OR I JUST CAN'T VOTE ON IT.
>> IF I'M FORCED TO VOTE ON IT, I'M GOING TO VOTE "NO."
I'M TELLING YOU WHY. >> I UNDERSTAND.
>> NOT BECAUSE I'M MAD. BECAUSE I AM MAD.
>> I SEE THAT. >> AND I'M NOT EVEN -- MAKE SURE I'M DOING THIS TO A MALE JUDGE, SINCE YOU SAY I ONLY DO IT TO FEMALES. THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS THIS IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE PRESENTATION. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION -- IN MY OPINION, WE HAVE A BID THAT IS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS LESS THAN WHAT THE APPROVAL IS TODAY. AND I AM NOT GOING TO SPEND MILLIONS -- NOT THOUSANDS, NOT HUNDREDS, BUT MILLIONS MORE DOLLARS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS WITH NO BACKUP.
WITH NO ANALYSIS. WITH NO DETAIL OF WHICH I GAVE METROPOMETROPOLITANY OF -- PLENF TIME FOR.
I'M ABSOLUTELY FRAYEDED. IF I'M FORCED TO VOTE TODAY, THEN I HAVE TO VOTE "NO." BECAUSE THERE'S A LOWER BID BY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. SO I WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT.
I'M NOT MAKING THIS AN EMOTIONAL DECISION.
I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT. I'M MAKING IT BECAUSE I'VE GOT
I UNDERSTAND. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
BECAUSE I THINK, MICHAEL, CAN I -- I THINK WE'VE ALREADY DONE IT. SO I APOLOGIZE IF WE COULDN'T.
BUT I CAN TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING ON HERE, RIGHT, JUST NOT -- OR
>> BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S SOME RULES.
>> I HAVE TO REMIND THE COURT. AND I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER'S FRUSTRATION. BUT THIS COURT VOTED SOME TIME AGO TO CHANGE THE CONSTRUCTION OF OUR SELECTION COMMITTEES.
AND THAT MEANS NOW THAT WE'RE IN THIS BOAT TODAY, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TWO OF Y'ALL AVAILABLE TO SIT WITH US AND GET ALL THE INFORMATION. SO THAT YOU CAN THEN SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THE REST OF THE COURT.
ALSO, BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF SELECTION, I CAN'T TALK ABOUT -- DARRELL CAN'T TALK ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS THAT WERE IN THE SELECTION COMMITTEE. NOW EVERY COMMISSIONER -- ONCE THE SELECTION COMMITTEE HAS FINISHED OUR WORK AND WE FINISHED OUR WORK SEVERAL COURTS AGO, WHEN WE FIRST PRESENTED OUR RECOMMENDATION. Y'ALL HAVE FROM THAT DAY UNTIL NOW, AT ANY POINT, TO COME DOWN AND REVIEW ALL THE SUBMISSIONS OF ANY OF THE CLIENTS THAT PROVIDED -- NOT CLIENTS, BUT ANY OF THE VENDORS THAT PROVIDED INFORMATION TO OUR OFFICE, TO TRY TO REVIEW. I KNOW IT WOULD BE AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK. BECAUSE DARRELL AND I HAVE SEEN THE SUBMISSIONS. THEY'RE ALL THIS THICK.
IT'S A DIFFICULT TASK. AND, SO --
>> SO I HAVE A QUESTION. MAY I -- MAY I NOT REFER -- OKAY. AS SOON AS I FINISH, I'LL CALL
>> MAY I REFER TO THEM AS JUST COMPANY ONE, TWO AND THREE? AND JUST -- BECAUSE WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO DISCUSS IS THAT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IS ACCURATE IN THAT THERE IS A BID -- THERE ARE THREE BIDS. YOU SAY -- HOLD YOUR HAND UP.
I'M GOING TO GO REAL SLOW AND NOT GET INTO IT.
THERE'S THREE BIDS. THEY WERE REVIEWED BY A COMMITTEE. THE THREE BIDS ARE VARIED, VARIED. LIKE ONE IS CALL IT LOW.
ONE IS MIDDLE. AND ONE IS HIGH.
AND THEY ALL, IRONICALLY, DIFFERENTIATE THEMSELVES BY ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT, RIGHT. SO THE LOWEST IS THE DELTA OF
WHERE THE HIGHEST IS. >> CORRECT.
>> AND THE ONE THAT THE MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR FOR, IS THE ONE THAT SITS IN THE MIDDLE. ARE WE OKAY SO FAR?
I HAVEN'T VIOLATED ANY? >> RIGHT.
>> OKAY. AND SO I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS, WHEN WORK -- WHEN WORK DAY HAS BEEN WITH US ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS, THEY HAD A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION OR LET'S CALL IT A PRESENTATION. IS THAT AVAILABLE ONCE AGAIN FOR US, WHERE WE COULD MAYBE FIND OUT AND DISTRIBUTE IT, SO PEOPLE COULD BE REMINDED OF THE -- OF THE WHYS OF WORK -- OF THIS PARTICULAR ONE THAT I'VE MADE -- EXCUSE ME, MADE THE MOTION TO TO SELECT. BECAUSE I'M MINDFUL OF TWO THINGS. ONE, INTEREST RATES.
WE HAVE A WINDOW HERE OF WHICH WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO CONTRACT WITH THIS GROUP. AND GO OUT FOR FINANCING.
AND I'LL -- AND THE ERP SOFTWARE OBVIOUSLY RUNS THE WHOLE SHOW.
>> RIGHT. >> WE'RE NOT CHOOSING HERE.
AND WE'RE NOT CHOOSING HERE. WE'RE CHOOSING HERE AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, BASED UPON THE INFORMATION THAT'S SITTING IN PROCUREMENT, ALL OF THE VOLUMINOUS INFORMATION THAT'S AVAILABLE TO ALL OF US, THAT IT SHOWCASES -- OR YOU'RE REPRESENTING THAT IT SHOWCASES AS THE CIO, CHIEF INFORMATION
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OFFICER, THAT IT SHOWCASES IN THE AVAILABLE INFORMATION, THAT ONLY THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE IS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE HORSEPOWER THAT WE NEED, AS THE COUNTY.WITHOUT GETTING INTO ANY DISPARAGING COMMENTS ABOUT X COMPANY OR Z COMPANY. AS IT TURNS OUT, THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE GETS THE JOB DONE FOR THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY.
>> RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S THE TASK THAT FALLS TO THE SELECTION COMMITTEE ON EVERY PROJECT.
IS TO DIGEST THIS INFORMATION. AND THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WE WERE GIVEN ON-SITE DEMOS FOR BASICALLY A HALF A DAY EACH FOR THEM TO COME DOWN. AND WALK US THROUGH INDIVIDUALLY, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PROCESSES THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE UTILIZING. SO WE COULD BETTER UNDERSTAND AND SEE HOW IT LOOKS AND FEELS. AND SO DALE CONDUCTED THOSE MEETINGS, WITH THE VENDORS. AND SO I GUESS WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS BASED ON ALL OF THAT INFORMATION, THAT WE WERE ABLE TO SEE, WE'RE REPRESENTING TO YOU WHAT WE FEEL IS THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THE COUNTY. NOW IT DOES COST MORE THAN ANOTHER SOLUTION, WHICH IS REPRESENTING THEMSELVES TO SAY
THAT THEY CAN -- >> ALL OF THE SAME.
>> ALL OF THE SAME THINGS. AND SO YOU CAN ONLY BASE YOUR DECISION ON THE INFORMATION THAT IS SUBMITTED ON THE BID AND WHAT THEY DID IN THE DEMOS. HE CAN'T ADD ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO FORM A NEW OPINION FROM THE SELECTION COMMITTEE'S PERSPECTIVE. BUT THE COURT NOW HAS RECEIVED THE WORD FROM THE SELECTION COMMITTEE, AS OUR RECOMMENDATION. AND NOW IT FALLS TO THE COURT TO DECIDE ON WHICH METHOD THAT THEY WANT TO SUPPORT GOING FORWARD.
I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY IT. WITH ALL OF THE INFORMATION AND KNOWLEDGE THAT DALE AND DARRELL AND I HAVE AND IDA ON WHICH ONE WE RECOMMENDED, WE'RE TELLING YOU WE'D LIKE TO USE WORK DAY.
IT DOES COST MORE. IF THE COURT DOES NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, THEN THE COURT NEEDS TO SELECT THE OPTION THAT'S LESS EXPENSIVE. AND THEN AS DARRELL MENTIONED AND DALE HAS SAID BEFORE, WE'LL GET BEHIND WHATEVER THAT CHOICE
IS OF THE COURTS. >> BUT YOU GUYS ARE THE USERS.
THE USERS ARE TELLING US THAT THE LESS EXPENSIVE VERSION IS NOT GOING TO PAY DIVIDENDS IN THE LONG RUN FOR THIS COUNTY, WITH THE -- CALL IT THE BANDWIDTH THAT WE HAVE.
THAT'S MY CONCERN. YOU REMEMBER WE ALL SAID, HEY, LET'S GO WITH THE LOWEST, RIGHT. BUT THEN YOU BROUGHT BACK INFORMATION AND THAT INFORMATION THAT IT'S -- IT MAY LOOK BETTER.
BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED.
>> I DON'T THINK THAT'S -- I DON'T THINK THAT THE TWO PRODUCTS THAT ARE BEING OFFERED ARE THE SAME IN EVERY ASPECT.
>> FAIR ENOUGH. QUESTION FOR YOU.
ON THE YEAR ONE, YEAR TWO, WHAT YOU'RE SHOWCASING FOR US HERE, MICHAEL, IS THEIR BREAKDOWN? CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE.
>> THE FIRST TIME I GAVE YOU ALL THE WHOLE TEN-YEAR RUNOUT OF WHAT THOSE COSTS WERE. WHAT DALE HAD ASKED FOR WAS THAT THE FINANCING BE CONSIDERED FOR YEAR ONE AND YEAR TWO.
BECAUSE EACH COMPANY HAS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN A 12- TO 18-MONTH WINDOW TO GET THE SYSTEM CONVERTED OUT AND ROLLED OVER. DURING THAT TIME WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN PAYMENTS ON THE CURRENT SYSTEM, WHICH IS THE ONE SOLUTION SYSTEM. IT'S LIKE WE'RE HAVING -- WE'RE TRYING TO SELL OUR HOUSE AND PAYING TWO PAYMENTS AT THE SAME TIME. AND SO THIS IS THE AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD NEED NOETO FINANCE FOR US.
>> THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. FINALLY, THEN I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR OTHER QUESTIONS. IF WE GET INTO -- WHEN WE BUY THIS, IT'S FOR HOW MANY YEARS? THE FIRST ONE LASTED 30 YEARS,
DARRELL. >> IN THE BID, WE SET IT UP AS A FIVE-YEAR CONTRACT, WITH THE OPPORTUNITY FOR APPEAR FIVE-YEAR
RENEWAL. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING.
>> IF FIVE YEARS WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RENEW FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS. OR WE COULD REBID AT THAT POINT, IF WE WEREN'T SATISFIED WITH THE RESULTS.
ALTHOUGH I WOULD SAY OUR INTENTION BEHIND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT WHEN WE MAKE THIS DECISION AND WE GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS WORK, WE'RE GOING TO EXPECT IT TO BE HERE FOR
PROBABLY SO TO 20 YEARS. >> RIGHT.
>> AND HOW MANY CHANCES DO YOU GET TO SHAPE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO BE UTILIZING FOR THAT LONG OF A PERIOD OF TIME. SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHY DARRELL AND DALE AND I ARE RECOMMENDING THE -- I GUESS WHAT WE CONSIDER TO BE A HIGHER QUALITY ITEM, FOR MOST WIDE ABILITY TO SERVICE ALL
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OF OUR NEEDS GOING INTO THE FUTURE.>> AND WHEN WE TALKED THE LAST TIME, MAYBE TWO, THREE COURTS AGO, WE TALKED ABOUT THE HUMAN CAPITAL SORT OF PAYBACK HERE.
THE FIRST ONE MIGHT BE CHEAPER. THE WAY YOU EXPLAINED IT TO ME, THE HUMAN CAPITAL THAT'S GOING TO BE EXPENDED IN NOT HAVING THE BELLS AND WHISTLES THAT THE MIDDLE ONE DOES, MORE THAN MAKES UP FOR THE DIFFERENTIAL. CAN YOU MAYBE BETTER EXPLAIN.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD SOFTEN ANYTHING HERE.
>> WE DIDN'T GET THIS ANALYSIS. THIS IS WHAT'S SO FRUSTRATING.
AND I GOT TO CLEAR SOMETHING UP. ONE THING THAT MICHAEL SAID, ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. I CAN'T GO BACK AND SHARE WITH ANY MEMBER OF THE COURT IF I'M ON A SELECTION COMMITTEE WITH ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE COURT. AND NEITHER CAN THAT MEMBER OF THE COURT. THERE'S TWO MEMBERS OF THE COURT
>> HE MEANT WITH US. >> LET ME FINISH.
>> YOU SAID BECAUSE WE CHANGED THE COMMITTEE SYSTEM, AND WE CAN PLAY BACK THE TAPE IF YOU WANT TO.
YOU SAID BECAUSE WE CHANGED THE COMMITTEE SYSTEM, WE NOW THEN CAN'T GO BACK AND SHARE THE INFORMATION WITH THE COURT.
WE COULDN'T SHARE IT ANYWAY, NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, IT HAS NO BEARING ON WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE TODAY, BECAUSE I WAS GUARANTEED THAT I WOULD BE PROVIDED -- THIS COURT WOULD BE PROVIDED AN ANALYSIS. BECAUSE I TOLD YOU THE LAST TIME THIS CAME UP, MICHAEL. I'M NOT GOING TO GO DOWN THERE AND TRY TO READ THE SUBMISSIONS, BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND THEM.
THIS IS WHY I ASKED FOR WHAT I ASKED FOR.
SO WE ARE HERE TODAY IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM OF WHAT YOU SAID.
YOUR ASSESSMENT IS INCORRECT, IN MY OPINION.
BECAUSE WE'RE HERE TODAY BECAUSE THIS COURT, IN MY OPINION -- THIS COURT MAY STILL VOTE FOR IT.
THAT'S OKAY. WE'RE HERE TODAY BECAUSE I WAS NOT PROVIDED THE INFORMATION AS BACKGROUND.
AND IF THE I.T. DIRECTOR, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, CANNOT PROVIDE A SUMMARY OF THE COMPARISON OF THESE TWO ANALYSIS TO THIS COURT, WE'VE GOT A BIG PROBLEM. THE I.T. DIRECTOR, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT HEAD, SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A SUMMARY OF THE PROPOSAL TO THIS COURT, TO HELP US, ESPECIALLY IN AN AREA THAT I AM EXTREMELY NOT GOOD AT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
SO WE ARE HERE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE WHAT I NEED TO -- THAT'S NOT WHY HERE HERE. THAT'S WHY I FEEL LIKE I'M IN THIS POSITION AND I'M SO FRUSTRATED.
BECAUSE I CAN'T MAKE A DECISION, JUST BASED ON WHAT Y'ALL ARE TELLING ME. THE JUDGE MAKES GOOD POINTS.
PROBABLY THIS REPORT WOULD HAVE BACKED UP.
MAYBE IF SOMEONE WOULD HAVE SAID -- SOMEONE COULD HAVE ANALYZED EXACTLY WHAT SHE'S SAYING IN A REPORT THAT SAID THE CAPITAL --
WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, JUDGE IN >> IT WAS -- WHEN I SAT DOWN.
>> YOU MADE A GREAT POINT. >> HUMAN CAPITAL.
WELL, I HAVE -- I MEAN, I WANT TO HEAR FROM OTHERS TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.
I BELIEVE IT'S IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO GET THIS ACROSS THE
>> IF WE CAN'T, AS THEY SAY, WE MIGHT HAVE DOOR NUMBER TWO.
>> IF YOU WANTED TO PASS -- IF YOU WANTED TO DO SOMETHING ON THE BOND, THAT'S A DIFFERENT SUBJECT.
LIKE WE COULD STILL -- I APOLOGIZE.
TOO CRANKED UP THERE. WE COULD PASS SOMETHING IN REGARD TO YOUR INTEREST RATE CONCERNS AND STILL HOLD OFF ON THE DECISION AND ULTRAVIOLET BONDS IN PLACE.
IF WE DIDN'T USE THE BONDS PASSED, THERE ARE OTHER GOOD PROJECTS TO USE THEM FOR. THAT WAS ANOTHER THOUGHT I HAD, TOO. BUT IF THE REST OF THE COURT IS OKAY WITH VOTING FOR IT, WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT.
>> I'LL CALL THAT DOOR NUMBER THREE.
BUT LET'S HEAR FROM COMMISSIONER MAREZ.
>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. I DO FEEL STRONGLY, MAYBE NOT AS STRONGLY AS COMMISSIONER CHESNEY ON WANTING TO BE SEE MORE OF THE DATA TO HAVE IT. I THINK THIS IS STILL A LEARNING PROCESS, RIGHT. THIS IS DIFFERENT.
AND THE -- AND THE FEELING I GOT, ESPECIALLY HEARING DARRELL PRESENT, THAT'S WHY YOU WERE HIRED.
YOU'RE THE EXPERT. AND I FELT VERY GOOD ABOUT A LOT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT TO US.
BUT TODAY WAS REALLY THAT EPITOME OF WE DID THE RIGHT THING TWO YEARS AGO. IT'S BECAUSE OF YOUR SKILL SET THAT YOU HAD HERE WITH THE COUNTY.
AND THEN IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THEN COMING BACK TO US.
THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. THAT'S WHAT I THINK -- WHY THE COURT IN GENERAL SUPPORTED THE POLICY OF MAKING THE SELECTION COMMITTEE'S NON-COURT MEMBERS, SO WE COULD RELY ON THE EXPERTISE TO COME AND PRESENT TO US.
NOW WITH THAT SAID, I'LL TAKE YOUR WORD.
BUT IT'S MUCH EASIER WHEN WE HAVE IT IN WRITING, RIGHT.
SO I DON'T WANT TO STOP THIS PROCESS TODAY, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE DATA BEFORE US. I TRUST IN YOU.
IF I CAN'T TRUST IN YOU TO TELL ME, THEN IT GOES WELL BEYOND POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS OR MORE DIFFERENCE. THAT IS A BIG CHUNK TO SWALLOW.
IT IS. IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC I'M SURE WILL BE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT SUPPORTING.
BUT YOU NEED TO GIVE US THAT DATA, SO WE CAN TURN AROUND AND
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SHARE IT. SO WE CAN VERIFY AND VALIDATE WHY WE'RE SUPPORTING IT, RIGHT. SO HEARING IT TODAY HELPS.BECAUSE I'LL TELL YOU WHEN I HEARD IT -- I'M LIKE, MY GOSH.
THIS IS THE RIGHT THING. GETTING THE EXPERTS TOGETHER.
HAVING THE COURT RE REP -- REPRESENTED AND HAVING THAT GROUP BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THESE BIDS, VERY SUBJECTIVELY.
AND I THINK WE HAVE TO WHEN WE HAVE COURT MEMBERS.
BUT TAKING ANY IDEA OF POLITICS ASIDE, AND RELYING ON OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF, THAT SPECIALIZE IN THESE AREAS.
THEY UNDERSTAND IT, AND ESPECIALLY, DARRELL, YOU LIVE IT. AND YOU REALIZE IT.
SO THAT'S THE SENSE I GOT. BUT I TOTALLY AGREE AS FAR AS WE NEED THAT DOCUMENTATION. BUT I -- I CAN'T -- I CAN'T LET THAT CONCERN STOP US FROM WHAT I THINK WOULD BE THE BEST -- THE BEST POLICY MOVING FORWARD, ESPECIALLY AFTER WHAT WE HEARD NOEBRING TO US LAST WEEK. I'M GOING TO BE IN FAVOR OF IT.
WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. I DO TRUST IN Y'ALL RESEARCH IN THIS. I DO SUGGEST WE HAVE AS MUCH BACKUP DOCUMENTATION AND TO GET IT TO US OBVIOUSLY WAY BEFORE COURT DATE, RIGHT. I KNOW SOMETIMES THINGS HAPPEN AND YOU JUST MAY NOT GET IT UNTIL UP TO THAT MOMENT.
I UNDERSTAND OUR POLICY IS USUALLY WE CANNOT REVEAL THESE NUMBERS UNTIL TYPICALLY DAY OF THE COURT.
AND WE CAN GO AND -- OR WE CAN GO SIGN IN WITH YOU, MICHAEL, AND REVIEW IT. WE HAVE TO SIGN THAT NDA.
>> I'LL JUST CLARIFY. YOU WON'T SEE THE SCORES UNTIL I COME TO COURT. BUT AS FAR AS REVIEWING THE PACKET, ONCE THE COMMITTEE HAS COMPLETED OUR WORK, AND WE'VE GOT A DECISION KIND OF MADE, EVEN BEFORE I COME TO COURT, THAT'S THE POINT AT WHICH THE COMMISSIONERS CAN COME AND VIEW THE INFORMATION. AND I CAN TRY TO DO A BETTER JOB OF INFORMING Y'ALL THAT WE'VE COMPLETED OUR WORK ON THIS PROJECT. AND LET YOU KNOW THAT THE DOOR IS NOW OPEN, WHEN YOU WANT TO COME AND VIEW INFORMATION.
CERTAINLY CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN. >> DEFINITELY HELP A LOT.
AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF PUNISHING THE COUNTY, RIGHT. OR ANYBODY.
IN OTHER WORDS, I THINK IF I SAID TO YOU, EVERYONE STOP, FREEZE. REMEMBER THAT.
LIKE FREEZE. DARRELL, RUN BACK TO YOUR OFFICE, GET ON YOUR LAPTOP. COME UP WITH FOUR BULLET POINTS FOR A, B, AND C. TU BE END OF THE DAY, IT HAS THE SAME EFFECT. I'M TRUSTING IN YOU THAT YOU, WHO UNDERSTAND THIS SOFTWARE, ITS APPLICATIONS, AND ITS POTENTIAL LIABILITIES, IF ANY, MAKE YOU DETERMINE THAT, B IS THE RIGHT ONE. AND THIS HAPPENS A LOT.
YOU HAVE OUTLIERS. YOU HAVE BIDS THAT WAY TOO EXPENSIVE. AND YOU SAY TO YOURSELF, WELL, THEY'RE WAY OFF BASE. THEN YOU HAVE ONES THAT ARE WAY THE OTHER WAY. AND YOU KNOW THAT SHOULD SEND UP A RED FLAG. NOT ALWAYS.
BUT IN THIS CASE WITH I.T., NONE OF US HERE HAVE THE I.T.
BACKGROUND TO REALLY DISCERN. I THINK THE POINT SHOULD BE MADE IT'S HELPFUL TO HAVE -- BECAUSE REALLY WHAT IT IS IS BACKUP.
FOR THE LACK OF A BETTER TERMINOLOGY.
IT'S BACKUP SO THAT WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS WHY WOULD YOU MAKE THAT CHOICE, IT WASN'T JUST DARRELL SAID.
RIGHT. BUT IF WE SORT OF BEEN PAYING ATTENTION, YOU KNOW, TO THE WRITING ON THE WALL, WHAT I'M HEARING YOU ARTICULATE OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT JUST REALLY SINKS IT FOR ME. LIKE I SAID, IT'S LITERALLY THE BALL SINKING. IS THAT IF WE CHOOSE THE WRONG ONE, THIS COULD HAVE REALLY BAD RAMIFICATIONS FOR US LONG-TERM.
AND, THEREFORE, IT'S A PENNY WISE, A POUND FOOLISH.
WE REALLY NEED TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT ONE FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
CHOOSE IT TODAY. AND TRUST THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT VERSION. AND LET'S NOT GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE, FORGIVE ME, BUT WE'RE MAD AT YOUR LACK OF, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THE BACKUP AS A REASON TO SAY NO.
COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, IF I GAVE THEM THE TIME TO GIVE YOU THE
INFORMATION. >> I HAVE NO IDEA.
I HAVE NO IDEA. -- I DON'T HAVE WHAT I HAVE.
I CAN JUST ABSTAIN. MY CONFLICT I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DATA TO MAKE A DECISION. IF THE REST OF THE COURT WANTS TO -- FEELS COMFORTABLE VOTING ON IT.
>> I FEEL COMFORTABLE KNOWING THAT THIS HAS BEEN -- WHEN WE CAME BACK, WE VETTED IT. AND I DON'T THINK THAT HE'S ABLE TO, WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE RFP, DISCUSS ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE -- NOW I WAS GOING TO ASK JENNY --
>> IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> RIGHT.
IS THERE ANY EXCEPTION THAT YOU COULD SEE, UNDER SECURITY, RIGHT. I MEAN, I WAS THINKING THAT OUR TECHNOLOGY IS PART OF OUR -- IT IS A STRETCH.
BUT I AM ASKING. YOU COULD THEN COME INTO THE
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PROTECTION ZONE OF DISCUSSING THIS CONTRACT OR POTENTIAL CONTRACT. WOULD THAT SUFFICE?I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. >> RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY -- YOU GUYS ARE NOT RECOMMENDING THE LOW BIDDER OR WHAT?
I GOT A LITTLE CONFUSED HERE? >> YEAH.
SO IN THIS CASE -- AND IT IS VERY UNUSUAL.
TYPICALLY WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE LOW BIDDER.
IN THIS CASE, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE SECOND LOW BIDDER.
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, IT HAPPENED BEFORE ALREADY.
>> AND THIS IS A PROPOSAL. >> WE SKIPPED THE LOW BIDDER AND IT'S NOT RIGHT. I MEAN, THE PROCESS -- THAT'S
WHY WE HAVE THE PROCESS, RIGHT. >> WELL, THIS PROCESS IS DIFFERENT THAN A BID PROCESS, SIR.
THIS IS AN RFP. IT'S A PROPOSAL.
AND SO IN THAT MANNER, WE HAVE TO WEIGH MORE THAN JUST PRICE IN THE OPTIONS. AND SO THAT IS REPRESENTED WHEN WE PROVIDED THE SCORING FOR EACH OF THE VENDORS.
THEY RECEIVED A SCORE FOR THEIR EXPERIENCE, THEIR WORK PERFORMANCE HISTORY. AND THEIR COSTS.
AND WE PROVIDED THAT BACK TO THE COURT.
>> SO WE'RE THE HIGHEST COURT HERE?
>> WE'RE AWARDING THE COMPANY THAT RECEIVED THE HIGHEST SCORE FROM IDA, DARRELL AND I. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE COURT TO SELECT. NOW IT HAPPENS TO BE THIS TIME THAT THE ONE WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO SELECT, IS NOT THE
LOWEST-PRICED OPTION. >> BUT IT'S THE BEST PACKAGE.
>> WE BELIEVE IT'S THE BEST OVERALL VALUE FOR THE COUNTY, FOR THE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE TO USE THE SYSTEM EVERY DAY.
ALL OF THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN HERE GOING TO BE USING THIS SYSTEM. WE'RE -- YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A BIG ENTOURAGE BEHIND US. IF I COULD, I'D HAVE THEM ALL IN HERE TO TELL ME THE LIVES ARE BETTER WITH ONE SYSTEM VERSUS
ANOTHER. >> SO WHEN THEY SUBMIT THE BIDS OR PROPOSALS, DO WE UNDERSTAND THAT -- THIS COURT -- I MEAN, IT'S NOT REALLY THE BIG DIFFERENCE HERE? EVEN THEY SCORE THE LOWEST, IT'S NOT GOING TO PUT THEM ON THE MAP? I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS.
SOMETIMES WE PUT THEM IN -- HIGH BIDDER, WE GO TO LOW BIDDER.
THEN THE PROPOSALS. YOU GOT BIDDERS.
>> BECAUSE THE PRICE -- THE PRICE RELATIVE TO THE OTHER SCORING ITEMS HAS A LOWER WEIGHT IN THIS BID, THAN THE OTHER OPTIONS. SO THEY'RE GETTING GRADED HIGHER ON EXPERIENCE, PERFORMANCE, CAPABILITIES OF SOFTWARE.
THAN PRICE. AND SO PRICE IS NOT THE DECIDING FACTOR. IT'S PART OF IT.
>> SO WHAT I WANT -- THAT'S THE CASE, I MEAN, WE NEED TO GO TO THE HIGHEST NUMBER. THAT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE PROBABLY -- MAYBE BETTER EXPERIENCED, MORE QUALIFIED.
>> SO IN THE TWO. EXTRAS THAT ARE THE HIGHEST TWO, THEY'RE BOTH PROVIDING THE SAME EXACT SOFTWARE PRODUCT AT TWO DIFFERENT PRICES. SO THAT COMPARISON BETWEEN THE HIGHEST ONE AND THE SECOND HIGHEST ONE IS AN APPLES-TO-APPLES. ONE IS GOING TO COST YOU A LOT MORE. SO THAT DECISION IS EASY TO MAKE. I'M GOING TO PICK THE LOWER ONE OF THAT SAME ITEM. BUT NOW ON THE LOWEST PRICE ITEM, THAT'S A DIFFERENT SOFTWARE PACKAGE.
SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT COMPARISON.
SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT THE ONE THAT'S IN THE LOWEST PRICE IS A DIFFERENT SOFTWARE PRODUCT THAN THE ONE THAT WE'RE
RECOMMENDING. >>> SO THE ONE THERE IN THE MIDDLEFUL PAGE, THAT I GAVE YOU, IS THE ONE THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING. WE THINK IS GOING TO SERVE THE
COUNTY WELL INTO THE FUTURE. >> SAME KIND OF SERVICES.
WHAT WILL MADE THEM DIFFERENT THAT THEY GOT -- I MEAN, IT WAS LESS MONEY OR MORE MONEY. REALLY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS WHAT THEY'RE CHARGING? THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS HERE BETWEEN BOTH OF THEM, WHAT THEY'RE CHARGING US?
>> NO, THAT'S NOT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE.
I THINK WE'VE BEEN ON THE RECORD MULTIPLE TIMES GIVING INFORMATION TO THE COURT ABOUT WHAT WE FELT THE DIFFERENT CAPABILITIES WERE, WITH ONE SYSTEM VERSUS THE OTHER SYSTEM.
DARRELL WENT INTO IT. DALE WENT INTO IT.
TWO COURTS AGO ALREADY, AS TO THE DIFFERENT ADVANTAGES THAT WE FELT, THAT ONE WAS GOING TO PROVIDE OVER THE OTHER.
THE ONE THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS ALSO GOING TO BRING IN MULTIPLE SOFTWARE PACKAGES UNDER ONE.
WHEREAS IF YOU SELECT THE OPTION ON THE BOTTOM, WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP MODULAR SOFTWARE PACKAGES THAT DON'T INTEGRATE
WITH THAT SYSTEM. >> WHILE I HAVE THE MIC, I WANT TO TAKE A POINT A COMMISSIONER MADE.
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COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. I REALLY DIDN'T LIKE THE ANNOUNCEMENTS YOU MADE EITHER. BLAMING US FOR CHANGING THE WAY WE SELECT, YOU KNOW. I JUST -- I REALLY DON'T APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT -- AND I KNOW YOU MAY NOT HAVE MADE IT THAT WAY. IT CAME OUT THAT WAY, RIGHT.I'M SURE YOU CAN FIND A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT CAN BE PART OF THIS COMMITTEE, IF YOU NEED THEM.
SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT I KIND OF FEEL THE SAME WAY. I'VE GOT THE SAME --
>> I THINK YOU BOTH ALL TOOK THAT IN THE WORST LIGHT IT COULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN IN. WHAT I WAS TRYING TO INDICATE IS IF YOU WERE ON THE COMMITTEE WITH US, YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE ROOM READING THE BID, THE PROPOSALS.
YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE DEMONSTRATIONS.
AND SO YOU WOULD HAVE ALL OF THE SAME KNOWLEDGE YOURSELF THAT WE HAD. SO THAT WHEN IT CAME TIME TO TALK IN COURT, LIKE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, THERE WOULD BE SOMEONE SITTING BEHIND THE BENCH WHO COULD THEN --
>> WE STILL COULDN'T TALK IT ANYWAY.
>> AT THIS POINT YOU COULD BE IN SUPPORT OF AND UNDERSTAND WHY THE COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING. BUT WHEN YOU'RE NOT IN THE ROOM, YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT WHAT WE'VE SEEN.
>> AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. >> YOU'RE RELYING FULLY ON OUR WORD. BUT THAT'S ALL I WAS TRYING TO
MAKE. >> LET ME ASK JENNY BACK AGAIN IF ANY THOUGHTS ON -- I'M NOT GIVING YOU MUCH TIME.
I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. >> I BELIEVE THE APPLICABLE PORTION WOULD BE 551089. AND UNLESS THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT
SECURITY ISSUE -- >> YEAH, I AGREE.
OKAY. I MEAN, I WAS STRETCHING.
BUT I HAD TO ASK. LOOK, I MEAN, AGAIN I HOPE THAT YOU WILL HAVE CONFIDENCE AND FAITH.
WE HAVE PUSHED THIS FOR SO LONG. IT REALLY DOES NEED TO BE DECIDED. IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY. AND THE ONLY THING I'M GOING TO DO -- IT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION. BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM YOU.
ILL, I KNOW YOU WERE IN THE COMMITTEE.
I KNOW YOU VOTED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
BUT DO YOU ALSO RECOMMEND WORK DAY? BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'RE THE ONE THAT'S MANAGING THESE DEPARTMENTS. THEY'RE ASKING FOR THIS ON BEHALF OF CIO. WELL, REALLY I.T.
CAN YOU JUST VERBALLY TELL THIS COURT.
BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP MAKE THIS DECISION, IF YOU ALSO RECOMMEND IT. I MEAN, WE EITHER RECOMMEND OR WE DON'T RECOMMEND. WE SHOULD LISTEN TO STAFF RECOMMENDATION IN THE AREAS THAT WE ARE NOT, YOU KNOW,
SO THIS COMPANY IS PROVIDING THE BASIS ON THE ANALYSIS, AND WHATEVER WE GOT INTEREST THEM. THEY'RE THE BEST QUALIFIED AND THEY'RE GOING TO LAST LONGER. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE BENEFIT IN THE LONG RUN. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS SHOWING.
WELL, THEN MY MOTION STANDS. I'VE GOT A SECOND.
I'M STILL HAPPY TO HAVE DISCUSSION, IF NEEDED.
BUT IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> OPPOSED. >> IS THERE AN ABSTENTION?
>> A LACK OF INFORMATION PROVIDED, AS REQUESTED.
>> OKAY. WOULD YOU PLEASE NOTE THAT.
THERE'S ONE ABSTENTION. YES, YOUR HONOR.
WE'RE GOOD THERE. PLEASE INSTRUCT NOE WHAT THAT NUMBER IS. HE'S BEEN LOOKING FOR THAT NUMBER. WE'RE GOING TO GO ON AND
[2. Discuss and consider conditional selection for IFB No. 3214-22 Asphalt Patch HP Road Material.]
EXTINGUISH >> I HAVE ONE MORE ITEM, JUDGE.
>> 3C2. THIS IS A CONDITIONAL SELECTION FOR 3214-22. ASPHALT PATCH.
HPROAD MATERIAL. THIS IS ANOTHER CASE WHERE WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE HIGHER PRICED ITEM.
WE VISITED WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND THEY PERFORMED A STUDY ON BOTH PRODUCTS. THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING ASPHALT PATCH, BECAUSE THEIR PRODUCT HOLDS UP BETTER UNDER THE RAIN CONDITIONS AND --
>> THEY'RE PROPOSALS, RIGHT? >> NO.
>> THAT'S THE PRICE. >> THIS IS A BID.
>> AND SO AS PART OF THIS, WHEN WE HAVE A BID, AND THIS IS WHAT MAKES IT DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER ITEM THAT WE WERE ON BEFORE. WHEN YOU HAVE A BID AND YOU'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND NOT THE LOW BIDDER, YOU HAVE TO NOTIFY THE LOW BIDDER THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NOT RECOMMEND THEM, WHICH I DID.
I SUBMITTED A LETTER TO THEM, INDICATING THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE HERE IN COURT TODAY. AND THAT THEY WERE INVITED TO COME AND SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF. AND THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT THEIR PRODUCT IS GOOD. TRY TO CONVINCE THE COURT.
THE COURT CAN HEAR THAT. AND THEN THE COURT MAKES A DECISION AFTER THAT. AND SO WHAT WE HAVE IS I BELIEVE NO ONE HAS COME FROM THAT COMPANY TO SPEAK.
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I'LL NEVER BRING A RECOMMENDATION FOR NOT THE LOW BIDDER, WHERE I HAVE NOT NOTIFIED THE LOW BIDDER AHEAD OF TIME. SO THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SPEAK. IT'S IN THE LAW.
IT'S IN CHAPTER 262. WE ALWAYS FOLLOW THAT.
WE SATISFIED THAT OPTION. I RECEIVED THE RECOMMENDATION LETTER FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND I RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
I'VE GOT A MOTION. , WHERE SECOND.
>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THANKS, MICHAEL. CONSTABLES, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US HERE TODAY. WE WERE -- WE'VE BEEN KIND OF MOVING AROUND. BUT WE'LL TAKE UP YOUR ITEM, SO WE CAN GET BACK TO THE BUSINESS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.
[2. Discuss and consider reclassifying Constable Pct. 5 Deputy III to a Sergeant/CID.]
IT'S ITEM NUMBER 2. E2.IT'S COMING BACK TO US FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND.
AND CONTEMPLATION, AS THEY SAY. THIS IS A DEPUTY TO A SERGEANT.
SYD. I JUST WANT TO ASK A PRACTICAL QUESTION. I ACTUALLY KNOW THE QUESTION.
YOU ALL MAKE THOSE DECISIONS TO PROMOTE?
>> RIGHT. SO ONCE YOU PROMOTE, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE ISSUE COMES UP. I'M GOING TO PROMOTE YOU, I'VE GOT TO GET THAT COMMENSURATE PAY.
THAT'S WHAT BRINGS US WITH THE BACKGROUND TODAY.
AND CHIEF, WELCOME. >> THANK YOU.
AND AGAIN, GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS, JUDGE.
MY APOLOGIES FOR COMING IN A LITTLE LATE.
>> NO WORRIES. >> WE'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH TRAFFIC CONTROL FOR THIS COMING WEEKEND EVENT OVER IN THE
>> SO WE'RE GETTING ALL OF THAT SQUARED AWAY.
SO LAST WEEK WE CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, IN HOPES OF PROMOTING ONE OF THE DEPUTY III DEPUTIES TO A POSITION OF SERGEANT, SYD. AND I'LL REITERATE OR BRING IT UP AGAIN. THE DEPUTY HAS BEEN WITH NUECES COUNTY SINCE 2013. HE'S BEEN PLAYING THE ROLE OF CID. DOING A TREMENDOUS JOB.
PUSHING OUT CASES BEFORE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S, DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S AND WHATNOT. HE'S IN CHARGE OF THE EVIDENCE AND ALL OF THE DRUGS THAT ARE BEING TAKEN OFF OUR STREETS.
AND HE'S GIVEN THE DUTIES OF MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF THESE DRUGS ARE EITHER PROCESSED THROUGH THE DPS LAB TO CONFIRM IF THEY'RE DRUGS AND WHAT THE ACTUAL AMOUNT IS.
ALL OF THAT TELLS US THAT HE'S -- NONSTOP HE'S THE ONLY ONE.
AS WE ALL KNOW THE PRECINCT 5 CONSTABLE'S OFFICE IS A 24/7 DEPARTMENT. NEEDLESS TO SAY, WE ARE NOT INCLUDING DEPUTY AGUILAR, WE HAVE 11 DEPUTIES ON THE STREET.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, HE'S PRETTY MUCH 11-1 RATIO.
ANYTHING THAT COMES OFF THE STREET, WILL GO DIRECTLY TO HIM.
WE HAVE TRIED TO PROVIDE HIM SOME HELP.
BUT IT'S JUST THE FACT THAT THE OTHER DEPUTIES ARE NOT AS KNOWLEDGEABLE OR AS TRAINED AS DEPUTY AGUILAR IS IN THE FIELD.
AND I'LL GO BACK TO SAYING THAT, IN THE PAST HE WAS AN INVESTIGATOR WITH THE CITY OF ALICE FOR MANY YEARS.
AFTER RETIRING THERE, I THINK OVER 27 YEARS WITH THE DEPARTMENT. HE LEFT THAT DEPARTMENT AND CAME OVER WITH US. AND HE'S AGAIN -- HE'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS ASSET TO THE DEPARTMENT.
AND I REALLY DO BELIEVE HE -- HE DESERVES THAT, YOU KNOW, RECLASSIFICATION TO SERGEANT CID.
AND I'M -- I'M HERE BEFORE THE COURTS, YOU KNOW, TO HOPEFULLY
GET A YAY OR A NAY. >> IS HE YOUR OWN CID?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> YES, SIR.
>> PROBABLY FROM DALE. I DON'T KNOW.
YOU SAY, FOR INSTANCE, SERGEANT IS MOVED UP TO CID.
SO THE OTHER OFFICERS UNDERNEATH HIM, DALE, DO WE HAVE TO MOVE THEM UP? IS THIS LIKE A CHAIN OF COMMAND WHERE YOU MOVE ONE UP AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE EVERYBODY
THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT, COMMISSIONER, IS THAT HE'S ALWAYS BEEN ALLOCATED WITH THE 12-M-MAN DEPARTMENT THAT WE HAVE NOW, 11, INCLUDING NOT MYSELF IN THE CONSTABLE.
SO HE'S ALWAYS HELD THAT POSITION AS INVESTIGATOR.
BUT IF WE MOVE HIM UP, NO ONE IS GOING TO MOVE UP.
IT'S BASICALLY RECLASSIFYING HIM AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANYBODY UNDER HERE, UNLESS OUR DEPARTMENT IS BLESSED IN THE YEARS TO COME. IF WE GET MORE FUNDING, AS FAR AS MORE OFFICERS FOR THE STREET. WE ALL KNOW THE COMMUNITY WILL GET BIGGER AND BIGGER. BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THERE WILL
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BE NO MOVEMENT IN OTHER RANKS. OTHER THAN WHAT, YOU KNOW, OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING WILL BASICALLY BRING TO THE TABLE.>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. >> YES, SIR.
>> COMMISSIONER, YOU SAID RIGHT NOW 11 DEPUTIES, WHETHER THEY'RE LEVEL 1 TO LEVEL 3 AND CURRENTLY TWO SERGEANT POSITIONS AT THE MOMENT. SO THEY WOULD CONVERT THE LEVEL THREE TO A SERGEANT AND REDUCE THE STAFF FROM NINE TO EIGHT AND
>> ONE BEING A CID? >> CORRECT.
AND THE OTHER TWO SERGEANTS ARE BASIC FIELD OPERATION PATROL
THREE SERGEANTS, ONE WOULD BE A CID SERGEANT?
>> YES. >> AND THIS IS MONEY ALREADY IN
YOUR BUDGET? >> THIS WILL BE A SMALL -- ONLY 2,000, $3,000 INCREASE. SO A SMALL INCREASE, NOT A
>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> CHIEF, I WANT TO MENTION -- YEAH.
THE RURAL AREAS ARE GROWING. >> YES, SIR.
>> AND OUR DEPUTIES AREN'T GROWING.
>> CORRECT. >> WE HAVE LESS AND LESS PEOPLE OUT THERE PATROLLING. SO I APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL DO.
>> THANK YOU. AND AS WE ALL KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF SHORTNESS, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS -- IN ANY DEPARTMENT.
YOU CAN SEE THAT NUECES COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS SHORT-HANDED ON THE PATROL DIVISION SIDE, JAIL SIDE, WARRANT SIDE.
EVEN US. I WISH WE COULD GET MORE HELP, YOU KNOW, TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THE RURAL AREA.
IT'S JUST -- AND I DO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS. AGAIN THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, JUNG. IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO GO BACK AND FINISH THE LAST FEW ITEMS THAT WE HAVE. SOME OF THEM ARE RELATED.
YOU'LL HAVE TO REFER BACK TO -- MY PAGES AREN'T NUMBERED.
IT'S A38. THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR.
WE SORT OF HAVE THE SAME GOOD IDEA.
BUT MAYBE JUST A LITTLE NUANCED. A REQUEST WE WOULD MAKE TO THE
[8. Discuss and consider request to TIRZ #2 board for fund to be allocated to Briscoe King Pavilion and Packery Channel Park improvements.]
[16. Discuss and consider Commissioner Brent Chesney’s request to the TIRZ #2 board for 2 million dollars to be allocated to Briscoe King Pavilion for upgrades to the building, parking lot, drainage etc. Said request adheres to the Commissioners Courts policies regarding asking for money from other boards, agencies etc.]
TIRZ, NUMBER TWO. TO BE ALLOCATED TO BRISCOE KING PAVILION IMPROVEMENTS. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MINE AND AND ITEM 3 A16 IS I INCLUDED THE PACKERY CHANNEL PARK, THAT'S THE NATURE PARK. SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S BEEN REPRESENTED TO US ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION.WE HAVE A TERRIBLE ROAD SITUATION GOING ON THERE.
AND WE'RE DOING LIKE $4 MILLION WORTH OF GRANT WORK WITH THE LIVING SHORELINE. SO AS LONG AS WE ARE LOOKING AT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, I WANTED TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE TIRZ -- THAT WE WOULD SOLICIT THE TIRZ TO GET THAT ON THEIR RADAR.
>> IT'S KIND OF LIKE TOGETHER. I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOURS HAS THE CORRECT REFERENCE TO, HEY, LOOK.
WHEN WE ARE GOING TO ASK ANOTHER BODY, RIGHT, FOR DOLLARS.
WE'RE GOING TO ASK, RIGHT, FOR IT.
THE WHOLE BOARD WOULD HAVE TO VOTE ON IT.
TODAY'S VOTE IS NOTHING MORE THAN US REPRESENTING TO THE BOARD THAT WE'RE TOGETHER ON THIS.
IT WOULD BE FOR BOTH, COMMISSIONER.
IT WOULD BE FOR BRISCOE KING PAVILION AND FOR THE ROAD.
THE COST ESTIMATE ON THE ROAD, IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING, IT COULD BE -- IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE VICINITY MAYBE OF ABOUT $600,000 TO $700,000. BUT HAVING SAID THAT, I WILL SAY THAT BRISCOE -- I THINK WE SHOULD ASK FOR AS MUCH AS WE THINK THAT IT WILL COST BRISCOE. I WAS HOPING THAT WE COULD DO AN UP TWO, RATHER THAN JUST A FLAT AMOUNT.
BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REST OF THE TEAM IS GOING TO SAY IN THE TIRZ. AND I KNOW THAT BRISCOE KING.
THE $2 MILLION WOULDN'T EVEN BEGIN TO COVER THE PARKING LOT ALONE. THE PARKING LOT IS $800,000.
I WAS HOPING WE COULD DO 4 HAD -- $4 MILLION.
AS AN ASK. >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW.
AND I DIDN'T HAVE ANY BACKUP ON THE ROAD.
AND SO I DON'T -- AGAIN NO ONE HAS COMMUNICATED THAT WITH ME IN REGARDS TO THE AMOUNT OF THE ROAD OR HOW MUCH THE ROAD IS.
I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYTHING FROM COASTAL PARKS OR THE DIRECTOR ON THAT, AS A REQUEST. THE BRISCOE KING -- I'LL BE
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HONEST WITH YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT SEPARATE. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS.IT KIND OF GOT SHELVED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BOB HALL GOT THE FOCUS AND THE SECOND FLOOR AND ALL THAT.
AND THAT'S FINE. AND I'VE ALREADY ASKED THAT THE CHAIRMAN TO PUT THE BRISCOE KING ITEM ON.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A REQUEST.
>> YOU MEAN THE CHAIR FOR THE TIRZ?
>> TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. THEN I PUT IT BACK ON THE -- I MEANT TO ACTUALLY PUT THIS ON LAST MEETING AND I JUST FORGOT.
AND THEN PUT THIS ON AS PER THE POLICY TO COME TELL THE COURT.
SO HONESTLY I DON'T -- I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE REQUEST FOR THIS PACKRY THING. I'VE BEEN GEARING THIS UP TO AK FOR $2 MILLION, AS LONG AS THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT APPROVES.
I DON'T WANT TO GO -- I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE GOING IN AND JUST ASKING FOR -- I KNOW YOU'RE NOT SUGGESTING.
THIS IS WHAT I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE BRISCOE KING TODAY.
I'M NOT SAYING WE COULDN'T GO BACK AND ASK LATER FOR THE TIRZ.
PLUS, I WAS GOING TO -- IF THE BRISCOE KING WASN'T GOING TO -- IF IT WASN'T GOING TO COVER IT, I THINK I WAS PLANNING ON USING POTENTIAL SOME OF MY ARPA MONEY. ANYWAY, I'M JUST -- AND I DID PROVIDE THE COURT AGAIN LATE ON THE BACKUP AND WHAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE TIRZ. BECAUSE THEY ASKED FOR SOME BACKUP. AND THIS IS ALL THAT I PROVIDED THEM. BECAUSE AT THIS POINT I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS. I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH THESE NUMBERS ON BRISCOE KING.
DO WE DO A SECOND FLOOR, A FIRST FLOOR.
DO WE DO THIS. WE JUST KIND OF CAME UP WITH THIS NUMBER SAYING THAT THIS WOULD MAKE A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT TO THE FACILITY. IT WOULD AIR CONDITION IT.
IT WOULD GIVE IT BATHROOM -- OR A KITCHEN.
IT WOULD MAKE IT MUCH MORE USEABLE.
I DON'T HAVE A FIRM PRICE ON THE PARKING LOT.
I KNOW IT'S A BIG ISSUE. I'M NOT DISCOUNTING YOUR NUMBER AT ALL. I'M JUST SAYING THIS IS WHAT I HAD ASKED THE TIRZ TO PUT ON. I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK AND ASK THE TIRZ FOR MORE. WE'VE REALLY GOTTEN NOTHING FROM THE TIRZ. I'M NOT BEING CRITICAL.
SO MY COMFORT LEVEL WAS REALLY NOT DISCOMFORT WITH YOUR REQUEST. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD
GET A BETTER COST ESTIMATE. >> I JUST KNOW IF YOU ASK FOR LESS, YOU GET LESS. IF YOU ASK FOR MORE, YOU MAY GET MORE. I'M WITH YOU.
100%. AND I APPRECIATE THIS IS A ONE AREA WHERE WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER.
BUT GIVEN THAT I ACTUALLY RAN THE NUMBERS FOR THE TIRZ, I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT OUR CONTRIBUTION IS $1.6 MILLION TODAY.
WHEN THAT $700 MILLION PROJECT GETS DONE AT WHITE CAP AND THE ONE AT GULF SHORES, THAT'S ANOTHER $1.4 BILLION OUT THERE.
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A TREMENDOUS IMPROVEMENT IN YOUR TIRZ DOLLARS. AND WHEN YOU DO, YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE GETTING SOMETHING FROM IT.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I'M GRATEFUL THAT YOU GOT IT ON THE AGENDA, AFTER ASKING -- LET'S SEE.
FOR FIVE MONTHS IN WRITING. WE FINALLY GOT IT ON THIS AGENDA. THERE IS A REAL NEED TO GET THE PUBLIC'S MONEY BACK. THE COUNTY CREATED THE TIRZ, IN ORDER TO HAVE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE REPRESENTED.
I'M WITH YOU. I DON'T MIND GOING BACK.
BUT I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. $2 MILLION WON'T EVEN BREATHE THE LIFE THAT YOU WANT FOR THERE.
I WOULD NOT SELL OURSELVES SHORT.
THEY HAVE $7 MILLION IN THE BANK.
IF YOU WANT TO PUT $2 MILLION TODAY AND WE'LL GO BACK FOR ANOTHER, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED AT LEAST $6 MILLION FOR THAT PROJECT. I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR THOSE NUMBERS. BUT THAT'S WHAT'S REAL.
>> I DON'T THINK WE WILL. AND THAT'S -- THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING I DON'T -- I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO SPEND -- I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO SPEND $6 MILLION ON THAT PROJECT TO MAKE IT SUPER UPDATED. SO TO SIT AND WAIT TO GET THE
$6 MILLION -- >> WELL, $2 MILLION WON'T CUT IT. I'M WITH YOU.
>> THIS IS NOT MY FIRST ASK. >> I'M TRYING TO GO IN AND ASK FOR SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE A GOOD SOLID SHOT OF GETTING.
UNDERSTAND I'M SAYING TO YOU, I'LL BE HAPPY TO GO BACK AND ASK
AGAIN, WHEN WE HAVE -- >> WE CAN ASK.
SORRY. >> IT'S NOT A WE THING.
>> THAT'S FINE, JUDGE. THE COURT.
WHEN I SAY -- I'D BE HAPPY TO GO BACK AND ASK ON BEHALF OF COURT.
EVERYTHING WE DO IS ON BEHALF AT COURT.
THIS IS A COURT ASK. I'M SAYING I WOULD PREFER IT TO DO IT THIS WAY. THIS TIME.
>> AS LONG AS YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE CITY CAN GIVE $5 MILLION IF THEY WANT. WE NEED TO ENCOURAGED CITY THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING, YOU KNOW.
>> I TOTALLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'RE --
>> AS LONG AS YOU REALIZE. >> ASK FOR MORE.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD ASK FOR MORE WHEN WE GET THERE.
THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD BE LIMITED TO $2 MILLION, WHEN WE KNOW THAT WON'T CUT IT. I'M WORRIED ABOUT IT.
I WISH YOU COULD SAY, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SAY, WE'LL ASK FOR
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$2 MILLION AND IF IT'S IN -- IF THEY DECIDE -- IF THE BOARD --REMEMBER THEY OUTNUMBER US 11-2. >> THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE PUT IN, TO HAVE MORE REPRESENTATION FROM THE COUNTY.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE PUT FORTH.
SO I'M TELLING YOU. I'M HAPPY TO GO BACK AS A COURT,
SO NOT TRYING TO SAY I. >> AND TRY TO GET MORE?
>> ABSOLUTELY. AT THIS POINT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT -- WITH THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO GET A GOOD COST ESTIMATE ON THAT ROAD. BECAUSE I THINK WHAT'S -- WHAT WE AS A COURT FOR YEARS HAVE MISSED OUT ON IS ASKING FOR MONEY FOR THE TIRZ. BECAUSE OUR PROJECTS HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE TO BE ASKED FOR A LONG TIME.
THIS IS THE FIRST ASK. I THINK --
>> ACTUALLY THAT'S NOT TRUE. BRISCOE KING PAVILION WAS NOT IN
UNTIL LAST WEEK. >> IT'S STILL NOT OFFICIALLY IN THE BOUNDARY. WHAT I WAS TOLD IS OUR PROJECTS QUALIFY BECAUSE THEY'RE ADJACENT AND EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT IN THE BOUNDARY. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT UNTIL
RECENTLY. >> UNTIL I PUT THAT ON?
THE NEW TIRZ HASN'T BEEN ADOPTED YET.
TECHNICALLY THE OLD BOUNDARIES ARE STILL IN PLACE UNTIL WE SIGN THE NEW DEAL. I THINK IS THE WAY IT WORKS.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> BRISCOE KING ISN'T IN IT?
>> I DON'T KNOW. >> WELL, I HAVE ASKED THE CITY.
I HAVE ASKED THE CITY LEGAL. THEY SAID, YES, THIS IS A QUALIFYING PROJECT NOW. EVEN BEFORE THE NEW BOUNDARIES.
SO I'D LIKE TO JUST GET THIS $2 MILLION DONE.
BE HAPPY TO DO -- AND I'VE ALREADY INDICATED THAT I ANTICIPATE US BEING A REGULAR ASKER OF THE TIRZ.
>> REQUESTER. >> REQUESTER OF THE TIRZ.
BECAUSE WE'RE CONTRIBUTING TO THE TIRZ.
WHETHER IT'S LEGALLY BOUNDARIES OR INTERLOCAL OR WHATEVER.
WE MAID THAT MOTION. >> LIKE I SAID I DON'T WANT TO
HAM STRING US. >> I MEAN, WE CAN PUT IT ON.
>> I'M 100% ONBOARD WITH THE ASK OF THE $2 MILLION, KNOWING THAT'S JUST ENOUGH TO GET US STARTED WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT --
>> IT'S NOT THE LAST ASK. IT'S THE FIRST ASK.
>> WELL, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S -- I FEEL L DUNN, WE'RE PLAYING POKER AND SHOWING EVERYBODY OUR HAND. I THINK WE'LL GET THE $2 MILLION ASK THIS COME AROUND. AND I'M GOING TO BE HOPEFUL THAT AGAIN THE CITY IS NOT GIVING MORE THAN.
EXPECT TO GET $2 MILLION OR LESS.
>> I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A SHOW OF GOOD FAITH.
BEFORE WE SIGN OFF ON DOCUMENTS. >> CAN I MAKE A MOTION?
>> NOT GIVE US -- >> NO, YOU CAN'T.
I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING. >> I WOULD HATE TO NOT GIVE A
SUPER REASONABLE ASK. >> RIGHT.
WHICH IS WHY YOU SHOULD ASK FOR WHAT YOU NEED NOW.
IT'S NOT A SMART MOVE. BUT LET'S GO WITH WHAT WE CAN ALL AGREE. COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY -- BRISCOE KING PAVILION FOR THE AUDIENCE IS A COMMUNITY CENTER AT PADRE ISLAND. IT DOES NOT HAVE AIR CONDITIONING. AND IT ALSO DOESN'T HAVE -- LIKE IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE -- IF YOU WERE TO A.C. IT, IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE DUCT WORK THAT -- THERE IS NO ATTIC, RIGHT.
IT NEEDS A LOT OF WORK. BUT MY HOPE IS THAT WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THESE DOLLARS WOULD GIVE, YOU COULD ACTUALLY MAKE IT FUNCTION AND THEN YOU COULD MAYBE CONSIDER A SEPARATE BUILDING MANY FOR MODERNIZATION PURPOSES.
>> SOMEONE SHOULD FIX THE SECOND TIER AT THE PIER.
THAT PAVILION IS SOMETHING ELSE. WE NEED TO FIX THE PAVILION.
>> RIGHT. THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING $2 MILLION
IS NOT GOING TO DO. >> HOW ABOUT, JUDGE, HOW ABOUT LIKE THIS. IF WE MAKE THE MOTION TO REQUEST THE $2 MILLION FOR BRISCOE KING PAVILION, WITH WE INFORM THEM TO
ASK FOR MORE. >> I WILL TAKE YOU UP ON THAT.
>> HOW ABOUT THAT MOTION. >> I'LL SECOND IT.
AND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT?
>> YOU GOT THAT? >> IS THAT FOR BOTH?
>> THAT'S JUST -- YEAH, THAT'S FOR 8.
>> 8 AND 16. WE'RE GOING TO PUSH THEM TOGETHER. AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.
ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE LAST ITEMS OF THE DAY. I'M GOING TO HAVE THE COURT DOUBLE CHECK ME ON THAT. OKAY.
SOMETIMES WE POP AROUND. AND SO, FIRST, SHANE, DO YOU HAVE A THUMB DRIVE OR ANYTHING THAT MIGHT BE --
>> HOLD ON. COMING BACK AT YOU.
>> OH, RIGHT. YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT 18.
ANDS THAT -- >> HOW ABOUT NUMBER 5?
>> WE DID 5 ALREADY. THAT WAS AMANDA WHO CAME IN.
[18. Discuss and consider donation of beach access road easement interest on Mustang Island to the City of Corpus Christi, and related matters.]
AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE JURY SERVICES FEE.18 I WAS GOING TO ASK JENNY ABOUT IN EXECUTIVE.
MAYBE SHE HAS -- THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE BEECH ACCESS ROAD
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EASEMENT ON MUSTANG ISLAND. AND THERE WAS SOME -->> I CAN GIVE YOU A QUICK. >> GIVE US A BIT OF A RUNDOWN.
THIS WAS NEVER UTILIZED, RIGHT? >> THAT'S RIGHT, JUDGE.
THE CITY APPROACHED US TO MAKE THIS REQUEST, BECAUSE IT IS AN UNUSED ROAD EASEMENT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
THEY WANT TO ABOUT BUILD A BEACH ACCESS ROAD AND THEY WANT TO BUILD THAT. PART OF WHAT WE PUT IN THE CONSIDERATION OF THIS, THEY HAVE TO START CONSTRUCTION ON A BEACH ACCESS ROAD, WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF THIS EASEMENT, WITHIN FIVE YEARS. IS THE START OF CONSTRUCTION.
AND THAT WAS THE -- >> THAT WAS THE CAVEAT.
>> THAT WAS THE CAVEAT THAT I PUT IN FOR THE COURT'S CONSIDERATION, SO ENSURE THAT WE WOULD -- AND IT'S NOT REALLY -- IT'S NOT SUPER VALUABLE ROAD EASEMENT.
BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'D EVER PROBABLY USE IT.
KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO A HUGE MULTI-DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE.
SO THE CITY REALLY WANTS THE DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR, AS OBVIOUSLY WOULD WE. AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT I FELT WOULD BE A GREAT PUBLIC USE AND THAT WE WOULD GET SOMETHING IN RETURN AND GET SOME GUARANTEES FROM THE CITY, THAT SAID THEY'VE GOT TO START THIS THING WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF THE EASEMENT, WITHIN FIVE YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION.
>> AND JUST SO I CAN GET IT IN MY HEAD IT'S NOT LIVELY BEACH.
THE NEXT AREA? >> IT'S -- YOU KNOW, LIKE
THERE'S NEWPORT. >> THERE'S A MAP IN THERE, JUDGE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE CALLING IT. IT'S A PIECE OF --
>> JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T GIVE UP LAND WITHOUT GETTING SOMETHING IN RETURN. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE WOULD -- THE CONSIDERATION WOULD BE THAT THE ROAD WOULD BE BUILT.
>> CORRECT. >> THEY'RE BUILDING THE ROAD.
>> IS THAT RIGHT? >> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> THAT IS THE CONSIDERATION. >> THAT'S WHAT -- THANK YOU.
THAT'S WHY I PUT IT IN THERE. EVEN THOUGH IT'S --
>> IT'S A PROMISE. GOOD ENOUGH?
>> THE CODE ALLOWS FOR A GIFT FROM THE COUNTY TO THE CITY.
AND IN ORDER TO GET THAT ACCESS ROAD BUILT, THAT'S THE -- I BELIEVE THAT'S THE ROUTE WE'VE TAKEN.
>> OKAY. I'M GOING TO LOOK AT THE MAP.
>> BASICALLY, JUDGE, ON OR WITHIN 1,000 LINEAR FEET OF THE PROPERTY'S LINE. THEREFORE, IT IS FILED AND LEGAL
DOCUMENT. >> AND I ASKED SOMETIMES THINGS HAVE TO GO TO COASTAL PARKS BOARD.
BECAUSE IT'S A DONATION OF AN EASEMENT, HAD TO COME TO OUR
PARK AND NOT COASTAL PARKS? >> IT'S NOT ON THEIR LAND.
IT'S JUST AN EASEMENT ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LAND.
>> SO, JENNY, IF YOU THINK -- I LIKE THE -- I LIKE THE STICK.
I LIKE THE CARROT AND I LIKE THE STICK.
I LIKE THE DEVELOPMENT. AND I LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE'LL
GET THE -- >> THE MAP WAS SUPPOSE TO -- IF COULD YOU PROVIDE IT AT SOME POINT FOR ME.
WIELD HOLD ON IT REAL QUICK. AND WE'LL MOVE TO SHANE.
DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT NEEDS TO BE
CAN YOU PASS THAT TO CONNIE, WHILE WE'RE?
>> AND ON THAT ONE, JUDGE, IT HAS A REVERTER.
>> IT DOES HAVE A REVERTER. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED.
>> HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT. WHAT DO YOU LOAD IT FOR?
[21. Receive presentation from LAN regarding update on ABM projects with the County; discuss and consider questions regarding construction at Nueces County facilities, and related matters.]
WHAT DOES CONNIE HAVE. >> THAT'S 21.
>> 21 I'M GOING TO HAVE ABM. >> OKAY.
WHY DON'T WE -- WHY DON'T YOU MAKE THE MOTION AND I'LL MAKE THE SECOND FOR THE COMPENSATION. I'LL DO IT SUBJECT TO THE MAPPING BEING PROVIDED. I'M SURE IT WILL COME.
>> IT WILL. >> SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE -- AGAIN SUBJECT ME TO ME GETTING CONFIRMATION OF THE LOCATION.
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ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.THAT WAY THEY CAN WORK ON IT. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK.
>> I WALKED AWAY FOR A BIT. WHAT DID YOU VOTE ON?
>> IF I COULD JUST GET QUIET, JUST FOR A MOMENT, WHILE I TELL COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER, THE LAST ITEM WAS AN EASEMENT, AN OLD ROAD ACCESS EASEMENT, THAT HASN'T BEEN UTILIZED BY ANYBODY BUT WHERE THE PROPERTY INTEREST OWNER.
AND THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI WANTS TO, WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, BUILD A BEACH ACCESS ROAD.
AND SO WE HAVE DONATED IT BY VOTE TO THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, SO THEY CAN DO THAT, PROMOTE DEVELOPMENT.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IF THEY DON'T DO WHAT THEY SAY, IT
REVERTS BACK TO US. >> I GET IT.
>> DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SAY YES?
>> YES, MA'AM. >> IF YOU WOULD RECORD COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ AS AN AYE.
>> NUMBER 17? >> WE DID VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ALL FIVE OF US IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.
IN FRONT OF YOU IS A HARD COPY ALONG WITH WHAT WE HAVE.
>> OKAY. >> SHARED UP ON THE MONITORS.
SO WITH ABM, ROBERT, DIRECTOR OF CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.
GOING TO PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF EACH OF THE BUILDING LOCATIONS. WE CAN GO THROUGH THOSE, IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME TO GO EACH OF THE SITES.
THEN WE CAN TAKE IT OUT TO GO THROUGH ANY QUESTIONS, EITHER YOU, JUDGE, OR ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE, THAT WE CAN TRY TO PROVIDE ANSWERS TO, IF NEED BE.
>> OKAY. >> SO I'M GOING TO START FIRST AT THE COURTHOUSE AND THE JAIL. ON THE LIGHTING WATER CONSERVATION AND THE TRANSFORMER SCOPE OF WORK.
THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED. AND WE WILL BE SCHEDULING A WALK-THROUGH TO GAIN ACCEPTANCE OF THAT.
WE'LL BE SCHEDULING THAT WITH LAN, THROUGH ITS CHAIN.
SO THAT'S THOSE THREE SCOPES OF WORK, COMPLETED AT THAT FACILITY. I LIST HERE THE AIR CURRENT.
WE'RE GOING THROUGH A SUBMITTAL PROCESS.
THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING BACK AND FORTH WITH PUBLIC WORKS.
SO ONCE WE CONFIRM THAT, THEN WE CAN HAVE THAT EQUIPMENT ORDERED AND INSTALLED. TESTING AND BALANCING OF THE NEW AIR HANDLER UNITS. THAT WAS COMPLETED LAST WEEK.
AND WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WAITING FOR THE FINAL REPORT, SO THAT WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH THE COUNTIES.
THAT WORK WAS COMPLETED LAST WEEK.
VAV INSTALLATION. THAT'S TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR THE 24TH OF OCTOBER. THAT HAS -- WE'RE PROJECTING THAT AS A TWO-MONTH DURATION, JUST BECAUSE OF THE FACILITY WE'RE WORKING IN. AND WORKING AROUND AREAS.
THE VORTEX AREA. THE POWER SUPPLY.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS.
WE HAVE THAT SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 1ST, THE SAFETY COMPONENTS WE WERE DISCUSSING. HOW WE WERE GOING TO BE DOING THE WORK, PERFORMING, ALONG WITH PROVIDING STEEL PLATES.
SO THAT WE HAVE SET UP AND THAT'S PROBABLY A ONE WEEK OR LESS DURATION. ON THE SMOKE PURGE, WE HAVE COMPLETED -- EXCUSE ME. WE'VE COMPLETED THE ROUGH-IN FOR THE CONTROL WORK. THAT WAS COMPLETED ON THE 14TH OF OCTOBER. THE FINAL PORTION OF THAT WILL BE ONCE WE RECEIVE THE EQUIPMENT, AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. WHEN THAT WORK IS COMPLETE, THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND FINALIZE THE SMOKE PURGE CONTROL COMPONENT.
CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE DDC CONTROLS.
THAT SCOPE WORK IS ONGOING. THEN THE SMOKE SYSTEM FOR THE JAIL, AS YOU SEE, THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY STARTING THE FIRST OF FEBRUARY OR THE END OF JANUARY. THAT'S ALL HINGING ON WHEN THE EQUIPMENT ARRIVES. AND THEN LASTLY, AT THE COURTHOUSE AND THE JAIL COMPONENT, IS WE HAVE THE
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BOILERS FOR THE CENTRAL PLANT. WE'VE BEEN HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH LAN, THE COUNTY, AND GOVAN ON THAT COMPONENT.WE JUST WENT THROUGH A WORK SESSION YESTERDAY AT THAT PART.
SO THAT IS THE COURTHOUSE AND THE JAIL.
IF I GO TO GALIHAR. WE HAVE TWO PARKING AREAS.
THE FRONT AND THE BACK. THE FRONT RIGHT NOW HAS A TENTATIVE START DATE OF OCTOBER 24TH, WHICH WOULD BE MONDAY. WE'RE TAKING THAT, BUILDING THAT, AND CONSTRUCTING THAT IN TWO HALVES.
TO ALLOW PARKING TO BE UTILIZED AS WE'RE WORKING ON ONE SIDE VERSUS THE OTHER SIDE. THE PARKING AREA IN THE REAR, INITIALLY THAT WAS SCHEDULED AND THEN WE PUSHED THAT TO FOLLOW THE FRONT. BUT AT THE MOMENT, THAT'S STILL -- THAT'S GOING TO BE STARTING ONCE THE FRONT LOT.
WE DID NOT WANT TO TAKE THE TWO LOTS OUT OF COMMISSION AT THE SAME TIME. WE ALSO HAVE THE ROOF WATER TEST. WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THAT DATE TO BE SCHEDULED FOR THE BUILDINGS.
IF I MOVE TO THE FAIRGROUNDS, AS MOST WOULD KNOW, THE LANDSCAPING HAS BEEN PROGRESSING. THAT IS SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETE THIS WEEK. THE PAVING AREA AT THE RINGS IS SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETE NOVEMBER 4TH.
THAT WILL BE THE FOLLOWING FRIDAY.
THE ARTISTIC LIGHTING, AT THE TOWERY AREA THAT HAS STARTED AND IT WILL BE PROGRESSING. AND THEN WE HAVE THE ARTISTIC LIGHTING, THE MAIN WALK AREA, THAT HAS A TENTATIVE START DATE OF OCTOBER 31ST. WITH A DURATION OF TWO MONTHS.
THERE'S BEEN MISCELLANEOUS CARPET THAT WE WERE HOLDING OFF, DUE TO ONE OF THE GLASS PANES BEING PLACED.
I BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO START ON THE 3RD AND SET UP FOR TWO DAYS. THAT WOULD BE DONE BY THE 4TH OF NOVEMBER. I'LL MOVE TO MCKENZIE.
WE HAVE BROKE THIS UP NOAA TWO COMPONENTS.
ONE IS THE CHILLER PLANT AND THE OTHER COMPONENT IS THE ANNEX.
AT THE CHILLER PLANT, WE HAVE A SCHEDULED WALK THROUGH WITH THE ENGINEER OF RECORD. THAT WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE FRIDAY OF THIS WEEK. THEN FOLLOWING THAT, WE HAVE IT TO GO INTO COMPLETE, WHICH WE HAVE SOME PAST PUNCH LIST ITEMS. WE'RE TRYING TO GROUP ALL THAT TOGETHER.
SO BASED ON HIS WALK-THROUGH, WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH COMPLETING THOSE PUNCH LIST ITEMS BY NOVEMBER 4TH.
AND AT THE ANNEX, LIGHTING WHICH HAS BEEN COMPLETE.
WE'RE LOOKING TO GAIN AN ACCEPTANCE WALK-THROUGH.
WE'LL BE SCHEDULING THAT WITH LAN, SIMILAR TO LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE COURTHOUSE. AND THEN ON WATER CONSERVATION MEASURE, WE'VE BEEN HAVING SOME ONGOING DISCUSSIONS ON THAT PART. SO ONE OR TWO THINGS ARE GOING TO POINT OUT IS THE GALIHAR PARKING IN THE FRONT AND THE ARTISTIC LIGHTING AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, AS THE COURT WOULD KNOW, THESE HAVE BEEN PROGRESSIVELY DELAYED, DELAYED AND DELAYED. AND WE'VE HAD SCHEDULED START DATES FROM OUR VENDOR, THAT WE'RE CONTRACTED WITH.
AND BOTH OF THOSE AREAS THE PAVING AT GOLLIHARSHOULD HAVE STARTED AFTER THE ROOF WORK WAS COMPLETE.
IT HAS NOT STARTED. WE'RE AWARE IT HAS NOT STARTED.
THE ARTISTIC LIGHTING -- WE HAD THINGS MARKED OUT, SURVEYED.
AND THAT'S BEEN DELAYED AS WELL. SO TWO ASTERISKS WITH THAT IS ABM HAS SENT A LETTER OF CURE TO OUR VENDOR, THAT WE'RE CONTRACTED WITH, FOR GOLLIHAR FRONT PARKING.
AND THE ART 12:00 LIGHTING. WE'VE ALSO ARE SENDING OUT A TERMINATION CANCELLATION OF AGREEMENT.
SO IF ANYTHING, X POTENTIALLY WILL HAVE A ONE-WEEK IMPACT AMONGST ÃWHICH WILL BE THE FOLLOWING MONDAY. WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THAT OUT. WE BEEN WORKING IT OUT EACH DAY AND LAST WEEK AND THIS WEEK. JUST BEING TRANSPARENT AND WITH THE VENDOR THAT WE ARE CONTRACTED WITH, WE HAD TO TAKE OUR STEPS TO ENSURE THAT WE COULD COMPLETE THE SCOPE OF
WORK. >>ON A POSITIVE NOTE ON GALLAGHER, I HAD GOTTEN A NOTE FROM MAKO AND I THINK ÃÃAT LEAST THE NOTE SAYS THAT WE ARE GOOD TO GO.
WE ARE CONFIRMING A 10Ö4 START. >>AGAIN, THEY ARE NOT.
>>I KNOW THEY ARE NOT YOURS OR NOT THAT'S THE SALT. I THINK IT'S GOOD WHEN THE SUB
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SAYS COME IN I WILL BE THERE. STORM PREVENTION MEASURES GO TUESDAY ÃÃCOUNT ON US TO BEHERE. SO æ >>WE ARE COUNTING ON IT, BUT
I'M JUST BEING TRANSPARENT. >>I HEAR YOU. >>WE HAVE BACKUP ON TWO SIDES AND TWO OPPORTUNITIES. THAT WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING OVER THE LAST FOUR WEEKS IN CASE WE WANT THIS DIRECTION. IF ANYTHING, IT WILL SLIP A WEEK.
BUT I HAVE NO CONTROL OF THE CONTRACTS FROM OUR VENDOR DOWN TO THE LOWER TIER VENDORS.
BUT, IT'S A GOOD SIGN HEARING THAT. AND WHO KNOWS WHEN IT WILL TAKE
PLACE AT THE END OF THIS. >>AGAIN, I GET THAT CONFIRMATION FROM THEM AND SO, IF YOU LIKE THAT IS ABOUT AS GOOD AS IT GETS. IF I HAVE THEM ACTUALLY GOT THEM DOING THE WORK IS ACTUALLY DOING A LOT OF WORK IN NUECES COUNTY, WE COUNT ON AND HAVE BEEN DOING IT, I THINK WE ARE IN GOOD SHAPE THERE. AT THE FAIRGROUNDS?
>>THEIR GROUP HAS BEEN PERFORMING AND PERFORMED WELL. AT THE FAIRGROUNDS.
>>SUPER. >>THAT THE HIGH-LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE PIECES.
SO, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP WITH ANY QUESTIONS ÃÃEITHER YOURSELF JUDGE OR COMMISSIONERS
HAVE THAT I CAN ANSWER. >>IF NEED BE. >>I REQUESTED.
>>GO AHEAD PER >>I UNDERSTAND THAT AN EMPLOYEE FROM THE JUVENILE FELL IN THE
PARKING LOT ÃÃWHO CAN TELL ME WHO TAKES RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? >>I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY REPORT OF WHO FELL, WHERE THEY FELL, OR ANYTHING. I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING.
I CANNOT ANSWER THAT PROPERLY FOR YOU. COMMISSIONER?
>>WE CAN HAVE ÃÃGET RISK MANAGEMENT. I DON'T THINK IT'S RELATED
SINCE WE'VE NOT HAD ANY PARKING LOT WORK THERE. >>JUDGE, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN
RELATED. >>IT'S RELATED TO OUR PARKING LOT, BUT I'M SAYING ABM IS NOT
WORKING IN THE PARKING LOT RIGHT NOW. >>THEY SHOULD'VE BEEN.
YOU KNOW? >>CAN YOU SHARE THE INFORMATION, NONE OF US HAVE THE INFORMATION, CAN YOU GIVE US INFORMATION ON THAT? THANK YOU.
>>I NEED TO WALK THROUGH ÃÃ READ THERE WHEN I HAD TO WALK THROUGH?
>>THE CHAIN WAS THERE, RIGHT? >>YES SIR. JANE, HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT?
>>COMMISSIONER ÃÃ [INDISCERNIBLE] UNELECTED ÃÃI GUESS THEY WERE GONNA START IN THE FRONT TO DO THE BACK HOPING FOR PARKING, RIGHT? AND THEN THE LAST THING WE AGREED ON WAS THAT YOU WERE GOING TO TRY TO CLEAR THE PART.
TO BEGET THAT SELLER PART CLEAR? >>NONE OF THEM HAVE GOTTEN PAID
YET. >>THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE REALLY REALLY REQUESTING
BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THE DRY UP. THEY CAN LOAD AND UNLOAD. >>THEY ARE NOT PAID ÃÃTHE PORT WAS CORRECTED FOR WHAT WAS POINTED OUT DURING THE WALK-THROUGH.
>>OKAY. >>IT WAS CORRECT. BUT STILL ÃÃWHAT HAPPENED IS THAT THE THEY BROKE THE DIRT IN THE CONCRETE. WHATEVER WAS THERE WORKING ON THE ROOF ÃÃTHE KIND OF DESTROYED THAT AREA THERE. AND WE ASKED IF THEY CAN JUST FLATTEN IT OUT SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY BE PRESENTABLE AND WALKABLE OR WHATEVER.
THEY SAID THEY'RE GONNA TRY AND GET IT AND TO DO IT. >>THEY WENT IN THERE A WEEK LATER AND FIXED IT UP SOMEWHAT. THEY DID NOT REPAIR WHAT ORIGINALLY WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THAT WE THOUGHT THE PAVING CONTRACTOR WAS GOING TO START THE NEXT FOLLOWING WEEK.
AND THEY WOULD START IN THE SELLING PORT. WHAT WE WOULD DO IS ADDRESS AND MAKE SURE WE DO HAVE THE AREA CLEANED UP AND FIXED UP AS A TEMPORARY MEASURE SO WE CAN GET IN THE RIGHT THAT. AND THEY CALL THE CONTRACTOR AND HAVE THAT DONE.
>>OKAY. >>IN THE ROOF ALSO ÃÃTHINK Ã ÃONE OF THE SUBCONTRACTORS CAME OVER AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GO ON TOP OF THE ROOF.
BECAUSE THEY WERE ACTUALLY ÃÃ THERE WAS A NEW ROOF, BUT THERE WERE ACTUALLY PATCHING THE ROOF. DID WE FIND OUT WHY DIRECTLY PATCHING THE ROOF?
I GUY WAS THERE WITH THE TRUCK AND ÃÃ >>ROOF SEALER?
>>YES COMMISSIONER. THERE IS A TOUR FROM THE ROOFING COMPANY.
AND THEY HAVE A GUIDE. [INDISCERNIBLE] I KNOW ROCKY WAS THERE LOOKING AT IT ALSO. AND ALSO TO PARTS OF THE BRAIN
THE ROOF THAT WE HAD. >>IT LOOKS LIKE ÃÃTHE GUY CAME OVER.
CONTRACTOR OR SUBCONTRACTOR. THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA GO THERE THE WHOLE THING.
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>>WHEN ALL OF US WERE TOGETHER, THE CONTRACTOR DID COME OVER AND AT THAT TIME, I ADDRESSED THE POINTS THAT ROCKY HAD BROUGHT NOT THE LONG TROUGH ALONG THE ADMINISTRATION OFFICE SAID IT HELD WATER AND I KNEW THAT THEY WENT BACK AND FOLLOWED THE WHOLE LENGTH OF THAT. THEY SAID IT WAS NOT THE SINGLE PATCH.
IT WAS ALL THE WAY ALONG THAT. >>SO, IT WAS CORRECTED? >>IT WAS CORRECTED.
IT WAS FILLED IN. >>IT WAS CORRECTED. BUT IT WAS PASSED AFTER IT WAS DONE, RIGHT? THE CONTRACTOR AND THE SUBCONTRACTOR ÃÃWHAT IS THEIR LIABILITY FOR THE? THE WATER STILL CAME INTO MARIE?
THAT'S THE REASON THEY NOTICED IT. >>THE WATER HAD COME INTO THE.
>>DID THE WATER COME IN SHAME? >>YES, THAT WAS NOT IT. >>THE PATCH THAT THE DIRECTOR IS REFERRING TO IS A ÃÃA PATCH THAT WAS DONE BEHIND A COUPLE OF AIR HANDLERS ON THE ORANGE BOOT CAMP. AND IT WAS DONE WITH ROLL GROUPING AND PROCESS PER THERE WAS NO HOT KETTLE ROD OUT FOR THEM. IT WAS DONE WITH A BUCKET OF
BLACK TAR. AND IT WAS TO REPAIR LEAKS. >>COMMISSIONER, I KNOW I REQUESTED THE WINDSTORM CERTIFICATION ÃTHIS OF COURSE, A CERTIFICATION FROM THE MANUFACTURER AND TDL OUR ENGINEER TO ENSURE THAT WE GET THE CERTIFICATIONS THAT WE NEED. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS BACK IN MARCH OR FEBRUARY OR WAS IT MARGE? THAT I REQUESTED? MARCH AND APRIL TIMEFRAME.
AND TO DATE, I STILL HAVE NOT RECEIVED THOSE. >>THAT'S ODD BECAUSE REMEMBER SHANE AND I TALKING ABOUT THAT TOO. IN THE CONTRACT ÃÃAND WE GO THERE RIGHT NOW ÃÃI WILL GET THE LETTER AND GO UP THERE MYSELF AND CHECK THE WHOLE ROOF
AND ÃDESPERATE >>COMMISSIONER, I WILL GO BACK AND LOOK, BUT I WILL BELIEVE THAT JUAN IS MISTAKEN. THERE WAS AN EMAIL THAT WENT TO HIM THAT DOES HAVE THE ROOF WARRANTY ON A PER THERE WINDSTORM ENGINEERING MADE HIS CERTIFICATION.
SIGN OFF ON IT. IT ALSO HAS THE DOCUMENTS FOR THE ROOF WARRANTY.
MARIE ASKED THE COUNTY TO SIGN THOSE BOTH FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS AND FOR GALLO HARD.
>>SO, THERE'S WARRANTY. INSTEAD OF PASSING IT æ >>THERE IS A WARRANTY ON PLACE IN THE BUILDING AND IT'S IN GOOD STANDING RIGHT NOW WITH THE MANUFACTURER.
>>VERSUS THE PATCHING, COULD YOU DO ÃÃCOULD YOU REDO THE ROOF?
>>WE WANT PAGES ON TOP OF THE ROOF. I'M JUST SAYING, CAN HE COME BACK AND DO WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO? YOU KNOW? WHEN YOU PUT COAL TAR ON TOP OF THE ROOF THAT LEAKS ÃÃWHAT WAS ARTIE DONE WITH HOT TAR.
>>WE CAN ASK THEM. WE CAN ASK THE ROOFING CONTRACTOR TO COME BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT WAS PATCHED AND HAVE THE MANUFACTURE? WITH THEM.
>>THEY'RE THE ONES THAT CERTIFY THE ROOF.
>>CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW IT IS CERTIFIED.
>>SINCE YOU HAVE ALL THOSE DOCUMENTATIONS, SEND THEM TO THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR AND SEND IT TO JUAN AGAIN.
>>THANK YOU SHANE. >>THANK YOU SHANE.
>>IF WE ÃÃIT LOOKS LIKE IT. I'M LOOKING AT THE WHOLE
HOLISTIC PROJECT UPDATE HERE. >>?ONE MORE QUESTION?
>>AS SOON AS I'M FINISHED, I CAN CALL ON YOU.
>>IT LOOKS LIKE THE LAST DATE TO START SOMETHING IS AROUND 11SS. WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT THE SMOKE SYSTEM IS OF FEBRUARY 23. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR ALL OF THESE ÃÃMCKINSEY FAIRGROUNDS, DALHART, AND EVERYTHING BUT THE PURGE SYSTEM ÃÃIT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE ABOUT TO GET THE LAST OF THE START DATES. COMMENCED.
IS THAT RIGHT? WE ARE AT THE CLOSE OUT HERE.
>>WE ARE CLOSING IN. THESE ITEMS UNTIL WE DO SOME OF THE WALK-THROUGHS AND THAT THEY WILL BE TURNED OVER TO THE COUNTY AS FAR AS ACCEPTANCE WITH THE LIGHTING, WATER TRANSFORMERS, BUT WE ARE PROGRESSING TO CLOSE OUT.
>>OKAY. >>THE OTHER QUESTIONS I HAVE IS IT'S JUST WHEN THE PARKING LOT ITSELF.
AND ÃÃABM CONTRACTS ÃÃ CONTRACTOR ÃÃCONTRACTOR CONTRACTS THE SUBCONTRACTOR AND I GUESS YOU HAVE BEEN HAVING ISSUES FOR THE LAST THREE MONTHS? SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE IN THE SUN
>>I GOT AN EMAIL FROM YOU GUYS SAYING THAT YOU TERMINATED ONE OF THE SUBCONTRACTORS OR SOMETHING AND YOU GOT THE NEW PERSON COMING INTO LOOK AT IT. SO THAT'S JUST THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO SUBCONTRACTED. OTHER LOCAL PEOPLE OR PEOPLE
FROM OUT OF TOWN? >>YES, THEY ARE LOCAL.
TO KEEP IT SIMPLE ÃÃABM. IT'S CONTRACTED WITH A VENDOR.
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HELLO. THAT VENDOR HAS TWO TIER VENDORS BELOW THEM. THAT TAKES YOU DOWN TO THE PAPER. SO, FOR US, TAKING ALTERNATIVES ÃTHIS WE HAVE WORKED WITH LOCAL TO DO THE WORK.AND I SHARED THAT INFORMATION WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND PAST CONVERSATIONS AND MEETINGS. JUST TO BRING UP THE NAME SO THERE'S NO ISSUES. RIGHT NOW, IT'S LOCAL.
IT'S NOT COMING FROM. >>ARE WE ABETTING THOSE LOCAL PEOPLE WHO ARE HIRED BY THE SUBCONTRACTOR?
IS ANYBODY VETTING THEM? >>ABM HAS.
WITH PAST PERFORMANCE ÃÃI HAVE BROUGHT THE NAME UP DURING PAST CONVERSATIONS. I DID NOT HEAR ANY OBJECTION.
WHEN I BROUGHT THE NAMES UP. WHEN IT REACHES THAT POINT, WE WILL BE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
IF IT NEEDS TO BE A SWITCH. >>IT SEEMS LIKE YOU VIEW THAT POINT NOW BECAUSE YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE KEEPING SOME OF THE
SUBCONTRACTORS, RIGHT? >>IT'S TIME TO ACCEPT THE BUILDING. WHO DOES THE ACCEPTING?
ONCE WE WALK THROUGH WITH LA AND WITH THE ACCEPTANCE OF ANY
PART THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED. >>LA AND HAS THE LAST WORD AND
>>NO YOUR HONOR. >>NOT COMMISSIONER.
THE WAY THAT IT WORKS IS ONCE THEY GET DONE AND THEY GONE THROUGH AND GIVEN THE OKAY ÃÃ I, LOOK AT AND AT THAT TIME, I WILL CALL CERTAIN PEOPLE IN. WEATHERBY ENGINEERS ÃÃIT WILL DEFINITELY BE THE ENGINEER RECORD FOR THE PROJECT THAT WILL COME. AND HE WILL COME IN AND CERTIFY THE FINAL WORK THAT IS DONE ON IT.OT TO MENTION AT THE TIME ÃÃALL THE FINAL PAPERWORK, WHICH WOULD BE ALL CLOSEOUT DOCUMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THE BOILERS AND CHILLER PLANT AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WOULD GO ON THAT WOULD BE THEN SUBMITTED TO PUBLIC WORKS. THAT IS HOW WE WILL GO AND THEN WE WILL HAVE A WALK WITH PUBLIC WORKS.
>>I WOULD BE LEERY TO ACCEPT ANYTHING.
IF IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A NEW ROOF.
AND IT'S ALREADY GOTTEN PATCHED UP.
YOU KNOW? FOR WHATEVER REASON.
DISPATCHES TEST AS I DON'T THINK THEY CAN HOLD UP LIKE THEY SHOULD. WE DO CONSTRUCTION WORK IN LOUISIANA AND WE DID PATCH UP WORK ALSO IN A FEW MONTHS BACK.
WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND WAS HOLDING UP.
THE CRACKS ÃÃWITH THE HOT SUN AND ALL.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE ÃÃI DON'T THINK I WOULD BE SATISFIED IF YOU'RE TELLING ME OR ME KNOWING THAT WE PAID FOR NEW ROOF AND IT DOESN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE A NEW ROOF TO ME.
>>IS NOT CERTIFIED BY ME SIR. IT'S ÃÃCERTIFIED IS CERTIFIED REALLY THE ROOF MANUFACTURER? IT'S ALSO CERTIFIED BY THE WINDSTORM ENGINEER. IT'S CERTIFIED AND CLOSED OUT BY THE ENGINEER RECORD AND THEN IS ALSO DONE BY THE ÃÃI SAID WIND STORM ENGINEER. AND THE CONTRACTOR THAT HAS DONE THE WORK. ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE HAVE DOCUMENTS AND PAPERWORK THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AND AND STUFF THAT WILL GIVE THAT WARRANTEE IS REQUIRED PER THE
CONTRACT. >>YOU ARE SAYING THAT WE WILL GET SOME KIND OF WARRANTY ÃÃ 10 YEAR WARRANTY OR 10 YEAR WARRANTY? ON THE ROOF?
>>THE MANUFACTURERS, EVEN THOUGH THE ROOF HAS BEEN PATCHED IN AREAS, IT'S BEEN INSPECTED BY THE MANUFACTURER.
WE'RE NOT JUST GOING UP THERE AND SAYING IT'S GOOD.
WE HAVE A MANUFACTURER COME IN AND SIGN UP ON THE ROOF.
AND GIVE US ANOTHER ONE? >>YES.
>>THANK YOU. >>,GO BACK TO THE SCREEN AGAIN? OKAY, IF THERE IS NO MORE COMMENTS, OKAY.
I SAID WE WILL MOVE TO 22. >>WHAT WE ARE SAYING RIGHT NOW ÃÃI'M SORRY, I KEEP FORGETTING YOUR NAME SIR.
ANYWAY, WHAT WE ARE SAYING HERE RIGHT NOW IS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THE PARKING LOT JUSTICE YOU'RE GOING TO DO IN FOUR MONTHS, THE PARKING LOT WILL BE FINISHED IN THE FRONT
ONLY, RIGHT? >>THAT IS CORRECT.
>>WE ARE GAUGING AS TWO MONTHS AND TWO MONTHS SPLITTING IN THE MIDDLE. IT'S GATHERING A TWO MONTH DURATION, WHICH WE WANT TO IMPROVE ON, SO WE APPROPRIATE THAT TIME AND THAT JUSTICE SHOULD WE ARE ABLE TO GOING INTO THE WHOLE PARKING LOT ÃÃ IT WOULD BE A LOT MORE EFFICIENT TO GO IN AND AND UP A LOT SOONER.BUT WE ARE FACING
INTO TWO SECTIONS. >>YOU STARTED ON 24 OCTOBER,
RIGHT? >>THIS THE 10TH, CORRECT.
>>I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO SAY THAT WE PROVIDED DATES IN THE PAST THE PREVIOUS STATES IN MULTIPLE TIMES.
AND RIGHT NOW, IT IS AT 10:24. THERE HAS BEEN A MESSAGE THAT
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OUR THIRD TIER VENDOR DOWN IS WITH THAT.BUT AGAIN, THERE HAS BEEN SOME PAPERWORKS WITH SOME TEARS AND CANCELLATIONS. JUST SEEING HOW THAT GOES
THROUGH. >>IS RECOMMENDING AGAIN.
TO BETRAY SPEAK WITH PEOPLE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE?
>>SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE AND SOME HAVE ÃÃTHEY TAKE OFF AND THEN WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE ONES THAT WE START WITH, THEY
NEED TO FINISH IT, RIGHT? >>WE HAVE ÃÃAS I STATED, WE PROVIDED DATES AND THIS STATES HAVE PASSED.
YOU BEEN HANGING IN THERE BECAUSE THE THIRD TIER VENDOR, WHICH IS UNDER MY CONTROL HAS BEEN PERFORMING WELL ON A PROJECT. AND IT'S A SHAME TO REMOVE THAT GROUP IN THE THIRD TIER VENDOR WHO IS PERFORMING WELL.
WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GO AS LONG AS WE COULD.
WE HAVE NOT SEEN THE START DATES ACTUALLY SHOW UP.
SO, I HAD THE CONCERN WITH NOT ONLY THAT, BUT WITH THE ARTISTIC LIGHTING BECAUSE WE CONTINUE AND COMMAND SCHEDULE UPDATES THAT CONTINUE TO SHOW AND MOVING AND MOVING AND MOVING. AND WE REACHED THE POINT WHERE
WE NEED SOMEBODY TO COMMIT TO. >>HOW YOU HIRE THESE PEOPLE? YOU ADVERTISE OR DOES ÃÃDO YOU ADVERTISE FOR A CONTRACTOR?
>>NO, THROUGH OUR PROCESS, WE HAVE A VETTING PROCESS.
WHERE WE WORK WITH VENDORS WHO ARE PREAPPROVED AND PEOPLE WHO CAN BE BONDED. PEOPLE WHO HAVE A STRONG TRACK RECORD.
E ALSO GO AND TAKE A LOOK AT VENDORS THAT HAVE WORKED FOR US. IF THEY ARE DOING MULTIPLE PROJECTS, WE TRY TO SEE WHAT THEIR VALUE IS THAT THEY HAVE ON THERE. MAYBE THEY ARE GETTING STRETCHED TOO THIN. AT SOME POINT.
SO, WE DO HAVE A VETTING PROCESS THAT WE HAVE THROUGH SUPPLY MANAGEMENT. IT'S NOT A PUTTING OUT TO LIKE AN RFP FOR ANYBODY TO BID. IT'S SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN
PREVENTED THROUGH OUR SYSTEM. >>ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT.
>>I APPRECIATE IT. >>OKAY, I'M READY ÃÃYES, GO
AHEAD. >>JUDGE, CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE BOILERS AND WHERE WE ARE WITH ALL THAT?
IS THAT POSSIBLE? >>THE UPDATE I CAN PROVIDE IS THAT WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE DIFFERENT GROUPS, WHICH IS PUBLIC WORKS GROUP. WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGED AND TALKING TO GO BEEN ALONG WITH LA N. BESIDES THE ENGINEER RECORD, WE HAVE BROUGHT IN AN ENGINEER AT BUTTER LAN THAT HAS EVALUATED ITEMS AS WELL PAID WE ARE PROGRESSING WITH WORK SESSIONS. WE HAD A WORK SESSION YESTERDAY TO PROVIDE CURRENT DRAWING AND CURRENT DESIGN INFORMATION.
TO GO BEEN TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH.
WE KNOW WE NEED TO DO WITH THE AREA.
WHICH IS COMPLETING THE CONTROLLER.
SO THINGS ARE AUTOMATED. I CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU AT
THIS TIME. >>SO, JUST BECAUSE WE'VE ALL GOTTEN ÃÃNOT BECAUSE WE'VE ALL.'VE GOTTEN CALLS AND REQUESTS TO MAKE SURE ON BEHALF OF EMPLOYEES THAT THERE IS NOT A SAFETY CONCERN IN REGARDS TO THIS BOILERS.AN YOU SPEAK TO THAT?
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REQUESTED ADM TO DO THE ULTRASOUND INSPECTIONS ON THOSE PIPES. WHICH THEY AGREED YESTERDAY THEY WILL DO THAT UNTIL WE CAN'T SAY WITH THE CONDITION OF THE PIPE IS. THE RECORD MADE A COMMENT THAT IT WAS A SCHEDULE I DID PIPE.TAKING HIS WORD. HE IS A PROFESSIONAL LIKE I AM. I'M NOT GOING TO COME OUT AND SAY IT'S NOT. WITH THOSE PIPES, SOME OF THOSE PIPES, NOT ALL OF THEM ARE IN GOOD SHAPE UNTIL ALL THAT IS DONE I CAN'T ANSWER THE HUNDRED PERCENT QUESTION
THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS. >> THE QUESTION EVERYONE WANTS TO KNOW IS IF THERE IS AN IMMINENT DANGER ANSWER THE ANSWER IS YES, SIR NO? THAT'S THE ONLY WORLD WE LOVE THEM.
WE DON'T LEAVE IN ANY OTHER WORLD THEN IS IT DANGEROUS OR NOT? IF IT IS THEN YOU NEED TO LET US KNOW. IT'S YES, SIR NO.
>> NO IT'S NOT. LET HIM FINISH.
>> EXCUSE ME SIR. GOVEN IS THERE IMMINENT DANGER TO LIFE?
>> IS AN IMMINENT DANGER OF NOTE WAS IT A SAFETY CONCERN YES. THERE'S A DEFINITION ON HOW YOU DEFINE IT. DO AGREE
WITH THAT PART? >> I AGREE WITH THAT PART.
>> THERE IS NO IMMINENT DANGER. THAT'S WHERE ALL OF THIS IS COMING INTO PLAY IN THE RITUAL PROCESS. THIS CAME IN AN EMAIL OR SOMETHING THAT CAME I BELIEVE FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR THAT CLEARLY SAID THAT IT CAME OUT THAT WAS A SAFETY ISSUE. THERE IS NO IMMINENT DANGER PROVIDED BY THIS RIGHT
NOW. >> OKAY, THAT'S WHAT THE COURT
REALLY NEEDED TO KNOW. >> HOLD ON A MINUTE.
>> HE SAID THAT I SAID IT WAS IN IMMINENT DANGER. I SAID IT WAS A SAFETY ISSUE LIKE GOVEN SAID. TODAY SAY IT WAS AN
>> I SAID IT WAS JUST A SAFETY ISSUE. THESE.
>> EXCUSE ONE SECOND. EXCUSE ME. JANET, I'M GONNA. RIGHT NOW. FOR STARTERS IF YOU HAVE SOME UPDATES AND SOME REPORTS TO GIVE YOU, WE WILL GIVE YOU A CHANCE.
>> SHE'S CAN UPDATE AS BASED ON WHAT WE DISCUSSED.
>> YOU HAD A DISCUSSION WITH JENNY, THAT'S DIFFERENT.
THAT'S INFORMATION WE DON'T HAVE YET. WE WILL HOLD ON THAT. YOU CAN UPDATE US IN A LITTLE BIT. ME FINISH AND ASKED JENNY. GOVEN, COME ON BACK.
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>> LIMIT GO BACK TO MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. SO GOVEN, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THERE ARE STILL SOME SAFETY CONCERNS YOU ARE ADDRESSING. THE SAFETY CONCERNS AT THIS POINT DO NOT RISE TO LEVEL OF IMMINENT DANGER.
>> ANOTHER THING I WOULD ADD TO IT ALSO IS ABM MADE A COMMENT AND I FULLY READ THEIR STATEMENT. THE PROJECT IS NOT COMPLETE. IT'S NOT GOING TO THE PUBLIC WORKS. THAT'S WHEN I MADE A COMMENT AND I ASKED THE QUESTION. IF THAT'S THE CASE WHY THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES ARE WORKING TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THE RUNNING THE BOILER SYSTEM AND HAVING THE ISSUE THAT THEY MAKE. I'M NOT SAYING THEY WILL. THEY MAY AND THROUGH THE HOT WATER ISSUES AND ALL THE STEAM ISSUES OR WHATEVER IT IS. WHATEVER I'M AYING, ÃWAS IN THE MEETING AND AGREED WITH EVERYTHING I'M SAYING. THANK YOU ROBERT AGREE ON IT. I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING NOBODY HAS NOT AGREED ON. BUT, AGAIN THE QUESTION CAME UP THAT IF ABM IS NOT TURNOVER THEN IT STILL ABM SYSTEM. ABM IS THE ONE CONTROLLING IT. ABM SHOULD BE OUT THERE MAKING SURE EVERYTHING IS TAKEN CARE OF RATHER THAN THE COUNTY STAFF. THERE'S NO IMMINENT DANGER OR ANY SAFETY ISSUE FOR THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES. THAT'S THE WAY WE
DISCUSSED. >> ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT GOVEN, THAT'S A GOOD POINT THAT'S WHERE IS GOING NEXT. IF THAT PROJECT HASN'T YET BEEN TURNED OVER TO THE COUNTY THEN LET'S SAY SOMETHING HAPPENS AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING.
THEN ABM HAS TO BE CALLED BY SOMEBODY AT THE COUNTY OR SOMEBODY TO LET THEM KNOW. UNDERSTANDING THERE HAS BEEN SOME OCCASIONS WHERE THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES WHEN IN THEIR AND DID THAT. IT WAS 2 IN THE MORNING.
>> WE DISCUSSED THAT YESTERDAY.
>> FOR CLARITY, AS GOVEN INDICATED THE SYSTEM HAS NOT BEEN TURNED OVER TO THE COUNTY YET. WHAT WE MADE CLEAR YESTERDAY IS THAT ABM STILL OWNS THE SYSTEM. IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, SAY THERE IS AN ALARM. DUSTY, LACEY, RUSSELL LISI THICKEST THE PHONE CALL. HE'S BEEN THERE ON WEEKENDS. WE ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE HANDLED IT. WE HAVE CONTACTED MECHANICAL CONTRACTOR, THEY'VE GONE THROUGH INTO THE RESTART OF SPIRIT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE PROPERLY AND CORRECTLY UNTIL WE TURN THIS OVER INTO THE PROPER TRAINING.
THIS POINT WE WANTED YESTERDAY TO REASSURE THE TEAM THAT ABM IS STILL TO HANDLE ANY OF THOSE ISSUES AND NOT TO BE COMPLETED BY ANY OF THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET CONTACTED. I WOULDN'T EXPECT COUNTY EMPLOYEE TO SEE AN ALARM OR SOMETHING AND NOT NOTIFY US. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET CONTACTED. THEN WE WOULD MAKE THOSE CONTACTS. DUSTY IS LOCAL. HE'S BEEN HERE ON WEEKENDS IN DIFFERENT AFTER
HOURS. >> I APPRECIATE THAT AND I WOULD ASK ALSO THAT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY AT THE END OF THE DAY THE COUNTY WORKERS ARE GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO TAKE THIS OVER AND HANDLE IT AND THEY WORK WITH IT. OBVIOUSLY IF THEY SEE SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD ALL TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT THE WORK WITH THEM TO TAKE THEIR INPUT. OBVIOUSLY THEY KNOW IT VERY WELL.
THEY'RE HERE BECAUSE TRULY DO LOVE THE COUNTY AND THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IT. YOU'RE GONNA PUT IT IN AND DO YOUR THING AND GO ON TO THE NEXT JOB. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
THAT'S LIFE. THEY HAVE TO BE THE ONE THAT LIVES WITH IT. I APPRECIATE THE FACT THEY SAW SOME CONCERNS AND ALERTED US AND I DIDN'T FIND IT TO BE ALARMIST OR NECESSARY OR APPROPRIATE. THEY SOUGHT, THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT IT, I APPRECIATE IT. I THINK THEY DID A GOOD JOB BY DOING THAT.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WERE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. OBVIOUSLY WHEN I MET WITH GOVEN WAS BEFORE YOU ALL HAD YOUR MEETING, YESTERDAY OR WHENEVER IT WAS, I'M SORRY IT MONDAY.
WHEN I TOLD GOVEN TO BE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT IS LOOK, YOU'VE BEEN HIRED TO HELP US WITH THIS LIKE LEN HAS ARE YOU HEALTH. IF YOU SEE SOMETHING YOU LET US KNOW. OTHERWISE I WILL ASSUME IS MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I DON'T MEAN THAT BECAUSE I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT IT. I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM THAT ARE GETTING A LOT OF MORNING TO WATCH THIS. I'M NOT THE GUY YOU WANT TO GO SEE IF THE BOILER IS WORKING. SOMETHING ELSE COMES UP THEN I EXPECT FULLY THAT GOVEN OR YOU OR ANYBODY WOULD TELL US ABOUT IT. HOPE YOU TAKE SERIOUSLY THE CONCERNS OF THE COUNTY STAFF. I DO THINK THEIR BEST INTEREST OF WATCHING OVER THE COUNTY AND I THINK THEY DO A GREAT JOB OF
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IT. I'M HOPING THAT'S PROCEEDING AND GOVEN, I'M COUNTING ON YOU LIKE I SAID THE OTHER DAY. WHATEVER IS WRONG WITH IT, FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET IT FIXED. I'M SURE EVERYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM WILL DO THE SAME THING.>> TOOK MR. CHESNEY, TO RESPOND TO SOME OF YOUR BULLETS. 1 WOULD BE WE DO CONDUCT BIWEEKLY MEETINGS WITH PUBLIC WORKS IS TEAM. WE DO GO THROUGH AND IF THERE'S COMMENTS THAT COME UP HERE DIFFERENT THINGS WHETHER IT'S THAT MCKENZIE OR TELL HER WHAT LOCATION. WE DO GO THROUGH THAT. THAT'S TAKEN SERIOUSLY. GO THROUGH THAT AND WORK AS A TEAM. AS FAR AS WHEN PROJECT COMPONENTS GET TURNED OVER TO THE COUNTY DEPENDING ON WHAT THOSE ITEMS ARE. THERE IS TRAINING THAT WILL TAKE PLACE.
THE TRAINING TAKES PLACE WITH THE INDIVIDUALS. IF YOU TAKE THE EXAMPLE OF SAINT THE JAIL OR THE COURTHOUSE AND WERE WORKING WITH BOILERS OR WATER HEATERS OR ANY COMPONENT.
WHATEVER THE DIRECTOR THERE? TAKE A LOOK TO SAY I WANTTHIS FACILITIES PERSON OR ONE FROM EACH SHIFT. THOSE PEOPLE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE INCLUDED WITH THE TRAINING. WE PROVIDE A WINAMP DOCUMENTATION BECAUSE WITHOUT. THE TRAINING TYPICALLY IS VIDEOTAPES SO THEY HAVE THAT AS A RESOURCE AFTER WE LEAVE. THERE'S A WHOLE PROCESS THAT WE WILL GO THROUGH ONCE THOSE ITEMS ARE TURNED OVER.
>> ASKED FOR ME IS ON TIME AND ON BUDGET. ARE WE ON TIME AND ON BUDGET? I'VE SEEN A LOT OF MONEY GOING OUT. I DON'T KNOW IT EQUALS THE AMOUNT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT DOES OR DOESN'T.
I'M ASKING THE QUESTION. ARE WE ON TIME AND ON BUDGET? HAVE WE PAID OUT MORE THAN WE ARE ON TIME FOR? IN OTHER WORDS HAVE YOU PAID MORE THAN THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED?
>> I WILL WORK BACKWARDS. PAYMENTS ARE BASED ON PROGRESS TO DATE. THOSE PAYMENTS WHEN WE SUBMIT A PAYMENT APPLICATION. THEY ARE SUBMITTED IN, REVIEW FROM ELLIOTT, THE COME TO THE WHOLE PROCESS. IS ANYBODY OVERPAID? THE ANSWER IS NO. IT'S BASED ON WHAT THE PROGRESS IS TO DATE. THICKETS APPROVED BY YOUR COUNTERPARTS ON THE COUNTY
SIDE. THAT IS THAT PART. >> ROBERT, YOU ALSO SPLEEN.
IT'S A TURNKEY PROJECT. WE LET HIM KNOW THAT. WHEN HE SAYS IS IT ON BUDGET THERE'S ONLY ONE BUDGET. THE ONE WE'VE GIVEN YOU. THERE IS NO MORE DOLLARS. IT'S AN ON BUDGET PROJECT BECAUSE WE'VE CONTRACTED WITH YOU TO PERFORM FOR THAT AMOUNT
MONEY. >> YEAH. BUDGET WISE THE PROJECT ON BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY. THERE WAS A BASIC CONTRACT, AND CHANGE ORDERS. THERE'S NO OTHER ADDITIONAL CHANGE ORDERS. IS A PROJECT ON BUDGET, THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES. THERE'S BEEN NO EXPOSURES OR ADDED SCOPE FROM THE COUNTY TO ABM. ON TIME, I WILL SAY WE ARE DELAYED. WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE PAVING STARTED I CALL HEART. ARTISTIC LIGHTING. WE ARE ON TIME BY THE TIME WE FINISH AT THE END DATE. TODAY WE BEEN DELAYED WITH COMPONENTS TO TRY TO GET THOSE THINGS PUSHED. THE LAST PART OF YOUR PROJECT WHICH IS OUT FURTHER.
BESIDES ALL THESE OTHER ITEMS IS THE SMOKE PURGE AND THE AIR HANDLING UNIT REPLACEMENTS AT THE GEL AND IN THE MECHANICAL ROOMS. THAT EQUIPMENT WHICH IS PART OF A CHANGE ORDER WITH THE COUNTY. THAT EQUIPMENT IS ARRIVING IN JANUARY WE ARE TOLD. WE HAVE THAT SET UP AND WE HAVE IT WORKING WITH THE VENDOR TO HAVE MULTIPLE CREWS SO WE CAN GET THIS THING STARTED AND GET COMPLETED BEFORE THE MARCH END DATE.
>> I'VE GOT MAYBE 3 QUESTIONS. >> YES COMMISSIONER?
>> I MENTION THE FACT ABOUT PIPES SHAKING AND PIPES SWEATING. ARE WE WORKING ON THAT ISSUE RIGHT NOW TO FIND OUT WHAT THE PROBLEM IS? WHY THE PIPE SHAKES AND THE CONDENSATION. ALSO AGREE WORKING WITH THE RIGHT BOILER? ARE THE RIGHT ONE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE? MAYBE THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THE PIPES. I DON'T KNOW. THE OTHER ONE, THE FACT THAT, SO EVERY DAY TO MAKE THE ROUNDS ON THE BOILERS? SOMEONE FROM ABM? DO YOU ALL DO THE ROUNDS? ARE YOU THERE
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EVERY SINGLE DAY MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND SATURDAY TO MAKE THE ROUNDS TO MAKE SURE THESE ARE OKAY? I THE QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU'RE SAYING DON'T LET THE STAFF DO IT, CALL US TO DO IT.IF WE CALL YOU AND YOU'RE IN SAN ANTONIO I THINK RIGHT?
>> CORPUS CHRISTI. >> TO THEY CALL YOU OR SOMEBODY
IN CORPUS? >> THEY CALL OUR SITE
SUPERINTENDENT RUSSELL LACEY. >> SO HE SUPPOSED TO COME OUT
WE CALL HIM? >> YEAH. HE ANALYZES WHAT THE ISSUE IS AND IS BRINGING IN THE PROPER PEOPLE.
>> OUR STAFF DON'T EVEN HAVE TO WORK ON IT? RIGHT?
>> THEY WOULD LIKE US IF THERE IS AN ALARM OR ISSUE. RUSSELL LACEY WOULD COME IN, EVALUATED AND HE'S TAKING IT FROM THAT
POINT FORWARD. >> HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO WAIT BEFORE HE GETS HERE BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING?
>> RUSSELL IS LOCAL. HE'S BEEN RESPONDING ASAP. HE RESPONDS OVER THE WEEKENDS. HE'S NOT SOMEBODY WHO IS TAKING A DAY OR 2 DAYS OR LONGER TO TRY TO REVIEW SOMETHING. WE GET A PHONE CALL THAT THE SYSTEMS ARE DOWN ON A MONDAY MORNING AT 6:30. HE'S EVALUATING IT A MAP SOME BE SCHEDULED TO COME IN TO RESTART THE BOILERS IF IT'S A BOILER ISSUE. THEY'RE IN HERE RESTARTING IT AND WE TRY TO GET THEM IN HERE BEFORE NOON.
>> BEFORE NOON? >> THEY GET THE PHONE CALL, THEY TRY TO GET THEM REALIGNED COMING OUT. IT'S ALWAYS
CONSIDERED AN EMERGENCY. >> SO WE WOULD BE DOWN 6 AM Ã
NOON? >> THE POINT I'M TRYING TO SAY IT'S ADDRESSED, WE CONTACT THE ENTITIES AS AN EMERGENCY.
THOSE PEOPLE ARE COMING OUT. IF THERE OUT HERE WITHIN 60 MINUTES, IF IT'S 90 MINUTES, WHATEVER THE ISSUE WE SEE WE ADDRESS IT BY THE URGENCY TO GET PEOPLE OUT. IT'S NOT THAT IT TAKES 4 HOURS TO GET SOMEBODY TO A SITE.
>> OKAY, LET'S GO BACK TO THE BOILER. I'M USING THE RIGHT BOILERS AND ARE WE ADDRESSING THE PIPES THAT ARE SHAKING AND CONDENSATION? WHAT ARE THOSE ISSUES? ARE WE TAKING CARE OF
THOSE ISSUES ARE WHAT WE. >> I THINK FOR CLARITY, CONVERSATION I WILL BOUNCE A LITTLE BIT HERE COMMISSIONER.
CONDENSATION I'M ASSUMING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TILLER PLANT?
THAT'S OUT THE GEL. >> WE DO HAVE THE PIPES? >> CONDENSATION AND HAS BEEN REVIEWED AND WE DISCUSSED IT.
WE INSTALLED AN EXTERIOR DAMPER IN. WE'RE CONNECTING IT WITH CONTROLS SO THAT SHOULD ALLEVIATE THE CONDENSATION THAT'S ON THE CURRENT PIPING RIGHT NOW. THE SHAKING OF THE PIPING FROM WHAT I DON'T FROM WHEN THAT'S BEEN REALIZED IS DURING START UP AND GOVEN YOU CAN CORRECT ME ON THIS. IF THE SYSTEMS ARE POWER SURGE OR SOMETHING GETS KNOCKED OUT OR SHUT DOWN. THERE IS A PROCESS WE NEED TO DO TO START THOSE BOILERS UP TO DRAIN THE WATER THAT IS IN THERE. YOU'RE TALKING STEAM AND CONDENSATION. WE'RE TRYING TO DRAIN THE SYSTEM TO GET THAT STARTED. AS WE WORK THAT IS NOT A CONSTANT SHAKING. THERE MAY BE SOME PIECE OF THE STARTUP BUT, ONCE THE SYSTEM IS UP AND RUNNING IT'S NOT A SHAKING COMPONENT.
>> THAT WOULD BE B. >> SHOULDN'T SHAKE AT ALL. IF IT'S DONE CORRECTLY IT SHOULDN'T EVEN SHAKE AT ALL.
>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RESTART UP OF THE SYSTEM THAT'S BEEN SITTING COLD. ANYTIME A SYSTEM SHUTS DOWN I WOULD CALL IT A COLD START. THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE HANDLING IT WITH THE PROPER PEOPLE UNTIL IT GETS TURNED
OVER. >> ARE THEY THE RIGHT BOILERS? ARE THOSE THE RIGHT BOILERS WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE USING?
>> THE BOILERS THAT ARE INSTALLED ARE BASED ON BOILERS THAT WERE THROUGH OUR SEMINAL PROCESS. THAT'S THE BOILERS
THAT WERE ORDERED. >> THE SAME SIZE YOU ALL TO COUNT? THE SAME SIZE BOILERS YOU ALL PUT IN THAT YOU ALL
REPLACED? >> ARE THEY THE SAME CAPACITY?
>> YEAH, CONTRACTUALLY IT'S THE BOILERS THAT WE HAVE.
>> IS ASKING ARE THEY THE SAME SIZE OR SAME TYPE THAT WE HAD BEFORE? >WHY DON'T YOU COME TO THE MIC
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AND ADDRESS OLD VERSUS NEW. >> YOU TO GET BETTER ONES.
>> EXPLAIN WHY.>> THE BOILERS YOU HAVE NOW YOU USED TO HAVE TO WATER FED AND I THINK ONE TANK BIG OLD TANK ONE THAT WAS BOILER NUMBER 3. ALL 3 BOILERS NOW ARE ALL WATER FED BOILERS.
CORRECT? ALL 3 ARE WATER FED BOILERS. YEAH.
>> ALL RIGHT, SO, WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PART OF THE PRESENTATION?
>> I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. TO EITHER ONE OF Y'ALL 3. GOVEN WOULD YOU EXPECT THE SHAKING TO STOP AND HOW MUCH SHAKING CAN THOSE PIPES TAKE? THEY WERE REPLACED AND THEIR OLDER PIPES,
RIGHT? >> YES. THE OLDER PIPES ARE NOT BEING REPLACED AS I UNDERSTAND UNLESS I'M CORRECTED. I WAS TOLD THAT WAS NOT UNDER THE CONTRACT SO I COULDN'T SAY WHY IT WAS NOT REPLACED. I WAS NOT THERE AT THAT TIME. THE SHAKING OF THE THING IS LIKE I SAID TECHNICALLY IT'S A DIFFERENT REASON.
>> IS GONNA CONTINUE UNTIL ONE OF THEM BREAKS OR SOMETHING OR
IS REPLACED. >> WE CAN'T SAY THAT THE ENGINEER RECOMMENDED AND EVERYONE SAYS ONCE THE DBC CONTROLS GET INVOLVED IN THE CONTROLLING OF EACH ONE OF THE BOILERS STARTS TO HAPPEN IN THE PROCESSING GOES. BUT WITH A COLD START WOULDN'T BE HAPPENING LIKE IT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. I COULD BE A COMPLETE DIFFERENT SCENARIO.
YOU MIGHT NEVER SEE IT HAPPEN AGAIN. WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL THAT PROCESS AND EVERYTHING IS COMPLETELY IN. WE CAN'T SAY
THAT ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. >> SO ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION LIKE SHAYNA SAID. UNTIL WE GET TO THE FINISH LINE WERE NOT
THAT I DON'T. >> UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS.
>> UNTIL YOU GET CLOSER TO THE FINISH LINE. DURING
CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. >> IF YOU HAVE A COLD START NOW AND GETTING CLOSE TO THE FINISH LINE. IF YOU HAVE A POWER DOWN IN THE BOILER SHUTS DOWN YOU RESTART THE BOILER. YOU MAY
GET THE SHAKING AGAIN. >> IN BETWEEN SOMETHING MIGHT
HAPPEN. >> BETWEEN NOW AND TO THE FINISH LINE. IF THE BOILERS ARE DOWN OR POWER SURGE AND BOILER MAY HAVE SOME ISSUES. IT COULD HAPPEN. THE RECORD MENTIONED THE SAME THING. THERE IS A LOT OF CONTROLS THAT HAS TO BE WORKED OUT. WHETHER THOSE CONTROLS EVENTUALLY WILL STOP THAT. WE WILL SEE IN FIGURE OUT. AT THAT POINT YOU CAN CREATE THE SITUATION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW TO SEE WHETHER THE SHAKING HABITS ARE NOT.
>> MR. GOVEN? MR. GOVEN? >> I THINK HE THANKS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED BETWEEN NOW CAN YOU REEXPLAIN?
>> LET ME RESTATE AGAIN. THE SHAKING OF THE PIPES RIGHT NOW IS HAPPENING DURING THE COLD START. ANOTHER WORDS OF THE PARK WAS DOWN, THE BOILER SHUTS DOWN. THEN HE STRUCK THE BOILER UP. IF THE BOILER IS COLD OR THE PIPES ARE COLD THERE IS A TIME LAG BEFORE THE BOILER GETS STARTED. THEN THERE'S A SHAKING. IT WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN IN EVERY SHUTDOWN OF THE LONGER DURATION.
>> SO WHEN THERE'S A POWER SURGE, WHEN THE POWERS LOST
THAT IS WHEN. >> THAT'S WHERE THE KEY COMES INTO PLAY. A BMPS TO BE THE ONE TO HAVING THE STARTING THE BOILERS. AS A SEQUENCE THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. THE BOILER NEEDS TO BE BLOWN DOWN SO IT HAS MORE ROOM IN THE TANK FOR THIS TO WORK. BLESSED DOWN ANY OF THE STUFF WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT RIGHT NOW. >> THE POINT IS YOU'VE IDENTIFIED SCENARIO AND IF THAT WERE HYPOTHETICALLY TO OCCUR
YOU'RE WORKING ON A SOLUTION. >> CORRECT.
>> THE SHAKING IS NOT A CONSTANT. THIS IS SOMETHING YOU FIND TEED. IF A CERTAIN SCENARIO HAPPENS. IF IT DOES HAPPEN YOU WANT TO PREVENT IT AND YOU'RE WORKING ON THAT SOLUTION. YOU'RE GONNA KEEP US POSTED.
>> WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN THE SHAKING HAPPENS THE PIPES ARE MOVING. YOU HAVE A JOINT WHICH IS A PHALANGE JOINT OR ISSUES OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. THE SEALS, BECAUSE IT'S OLD PIPE.
THE SEALS ARE PROBABLY NOT TO ITS LIMIT SO YOU HAVE STEAM COMING OUT OF THOSE JOINTS AND THAT COMES DOWN AS A CONDENSATION IN THE HOT WATER OR THE STEAM CONDESCENDING.
THAT'S WHERE THE ISSUES ARE. >> THAT'S WHERE THE ISSUE IS.
AND YOU'RE GONNA FIND OUT. >> GOVEN, I KNOW YOU'RE AN ENGINEER. SHANE, ARE YOU AN ENGINEER?
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>> I'M NOT AN ENGINEER. >> SIR? ARE YOU AN ENGINEER?
>> I'M NOT AN ENGINEER. >> JUST SO WE KNOW ON THIS. SO ELIANE HAS CONDUCTED MULTIPLE MEP INSTRUCTIONS AND PART OF THE PROJECTS INCLUDING 6 PECTIONS WITH 25 EXPERIENCE ENGINEER PLUS AN ENGINEER WITH 5 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE OR EIT OF 5 YEARS EXPERIENCE ADDITIONALLY FORESIGHT CIVIL WORK. ELIANE HAS UTILIZED 37 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN ENGINEERING ON THESE PROJECTS THAT WERE SITTING HERE ALONE WITH. WE BROUGHT IN AN ACTUAL MECHANICAL ENGINEER AND THAT WALKED NOT ONLY JUST THE BOILERS, THE CHILLER PLANT AND THE HVAC
SYSTEMS INSIDE THE IL. >> SO HE'S BEEN HERE EVERY DAY?
>> NO, HE HASN'T BEEN HERE EVERY DAY.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> WE ARE TO MOVE ON IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS. WHAT WERE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, KEEP WORKING TOGETHER TO SOLVE ISSUES. THAT'S WHAT SEEMS TO BE HAPPENING. KEEP US POSTED. KEEP US UPDATED. WE WANT TO SEE OBVIOUSLY THESE PROJECTS CONCLUDE AS WAS SAID EARLIER.
TIMELY AND THIS TYPE OF PROJECT UPDATE IS SUPER HELPFUL. I WILL KEEP ENCOURAGING IT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. THESE ARE THE ONE PAGERS ARE VERY, VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. >> THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY OTHER PRESENTATION, SHANE YOU WOULD LIKE TO GIVE? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING MORE.
I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON THE ADA ITEM NUMBER
22. >> WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT IF YOU WANT YOUR HONOR REAL QUICKLY. I THINK THIS WILL HELP MICHENER CHESNEY A LITTLE BIT I HAVE SOME COST BREAKOUTS
[22. Discuss Lockwood, Andrews & Newnam, Inc. (LAN) job performances relating to program management and engineering services regarding the County's Capital Improvement Projects and other matters.]
THAT ARE ALSO INSIDE THERE FOR THESE PROJECTS.>> OKAY MOVING ON 222 AND TALKING ABOUT-YEAR-OLDS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND ACHIEVEMENT HERE. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM MANAGEMENT I SHOULD SAY. . OKAY GOOD THE FIRST ONE I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT HIS COURTHOUSE ADA IMPROVEMENTS.
ON THIS WE'VE COMPLETED AN ACTIVITY DESIGN N PHASE, BID AND AWARD D FEES, AND RECONSTRUCTION OF THE RESTROOMS AND COURTROOMS. IN SOME OF THESE FLOORS. WE WORKED ON THE 10TH FLOOR, THE EIGHTH FLOOR. WE'VE COMPLETELY TON SOME COMPLETELY ALL OVER THE 4TH FLOOR COURTROOM THAT HAS CURRENTLY BEEN DONE. THE DESIGN PHASE ON THIS PROJECT ON THE MILESTONES WAS COMPLETE IN APRIL 2019. THE PROCUREMENT PHASE AUGUST THROUGH DECEMBER 21 CONSTRUCTION PHASE IS APRIL 22 THROUGH OCTOBER 23. PROJECT CURRENTLY IS ON SCHEDULE. SOME OF THE UPCOMING ACTIVITIES WE HAVE THAT WILL BE ONGOING WILL BE SOME OF THE RESTROOM DEMOLITION AND RECONSTRUCTIONS THAT WILL BE HAPPENING ON THE SIXTH FLOOR. CABINET MODIFICATIONS, TOUR CHANGES AND UPGRADES AND CURRENT DEMOLITION. FOR THE ADA PROJECT THE TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET WAS 10 MILLION OR 7976. THE CONSTRUCTION COST WAS 8,000,800 82,000. YOUR PROJECTED COST TO DATE OF 1,000,070 6390. CONSTRUCTION COST TO DATE OF 1 MILLION 544 NEXT SLIDE. THESE ARE SHOWING SOME PICTURES HERE. THE VERY PICTURE ON THE LEFT SHOWING WHAT THE BATHROOM LOOKS LIKE WHEN WE DEMOED THE WALLS AND STARTING DIGGING INTO THE PROJECT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT ONE YOU WILL SEE WHAT THE BATHROOM ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE AND WHEN IT WAS COMPLETED. XT, IT WILL GO TO THE RIGHT RECEIPT ALL THE RUBBLE AND THAT HAPPENS TO BE THE COURT ROOM ON THE 4TH FLOOR. THE VERY RIGHT ICTURE TOP IS WHAT THE ACTUAL OURTROOM RECEIPT OF THE RUBBER LOOKS LIKE NOW. THAT IS A NEW BENCH AND EVERYTHING THAT WILL BE INSIDE OF THAT COURTROOM WITH ALL THE NEW FLOORING THAT IS IN. THEY ARE EXPECTING THAT COURTROOM WILL BE FINISHED BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK. THE BOTTOM PICTURE JUST HAPPENS TO BE, WE WANTED TO HOW THAT IS APPARENTLY THAT GOT MATCHED FOR THE 88 RAMP THAT HAD TO BE ON THE 10TH FLOOR COURTROOM. THEY HAD TO MATCH THE OLD PANELING I THOUGHT IT'D THE HECKUVA JOB
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GETTING THAT MATCHED. OKAY, NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE IS THE COURTHOUSE EXTERIOR. AS WE ALL KNOW THIS TURNED OUT TO BE A GREAT PROJECT. THE PROJECT IS NOW COMPLETE. THE CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION HAS BEEN FILED AND DONE. DESIGN PHASE OF THIS PROJECT IS COMPLETED IN SEPTEMBER 2021 THE PROCUREMENT PHASE OCTOBER 2020 THROUGH FEBRUARY 2021. CONSTRUCTION PHASE WAS FIBBER 2021 THROUGH AUGUST 2022. CONSTRUCTION COMPLETE IN AUGUST 2022. ONCE AGAIN, YOU CAN GO ON TO THE PROJECT COST. IT WILL SEE THIS PROJECT BUDGET WAS $7,597,000.CONSTRUCTION COST WAS 6,763,000. PROJECT COST TO DATE IS 7 MILLION OH 92. CONSTRUCTION COST TO DATE WAS 6.763. WE WILL GO DOWN TO THE NEXT PICTURE. THE NEXT PICTURE GIVES YOUOU AN IDEA OF HOW THIS PROGRESSED A MONTH THROUGH EVERYTHING. AS YOU CAN SEE THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT TOP CORNERSHOWS WE TOOK ALL OF THE SKIN OFF OF THE THE BUILDING AND SHOWED SOME OF THE DAMAGE THAT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE WALLS THAT THEY FIXED. AND RESKINNED DID EVERYTHING. YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS. IF YOU COME TO THE RIGHT, PICTURES TO THE RIGHT. THE PICTURE YOU SEE ALL THE BUILDING AND EVERYTHING. THAT WAS A DRONE FLIGHT WHICH IS DATED FOR THIS BUILDING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. TO SHOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW.
OF COURSE THE 2 PICTURES YOU CAN SEE WHICH SHOWS THE NEW
>> NEXT WE HAVE THE ANIMAL CARE FACILITY. COMPLETED ACTIVITY OF THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN DESIGN DEPARTMENT. PROJECT MILESTONES PROJECTS ARE THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN COMPLETE DECEMBER 2021.
AS I DEVELOP MANY COMPLETED FEBRUARY 2022. CONSTRUCTION TALKS AUGUST 22 THROUGH NOVEMBER 2022. IN BID AWARD FOR MARCH 2023. ONGOING AND UPCOMING ACTIVITIES, COMPLETION OF THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. COUNTY REVIEW AND PERMITTING ISSUE FOR BID. RECEIVED BIDS AND BID AWARD BY COMMISSIONERS COURT. CURRENTLY, ON THAT PROJECT COST, THE TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET IS 5,000,004 AND 45,000. I'M NOT GOING THROUGH ALL OF THEM. THE CONSTRUCTION COST IS 4,000,001 HUNTER 53,000.
PROJECT COST TO DATE IS 838,000 AND CONSTRUCTION COST TODAY IS NONE. THIS IS NOT BEEN BID YET.
>> SHANE, CAN ASK A QUESTION. TELL ME WHY THE TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET54 BECAUSE I THOUGHT THIS COURT ONLY PASSED THE 4 Ã 2.
THE REST OF THE COURT VOTED FOR 4.2 MILLION. HOUSE AT 5.4
MILLION? >> TO BE HONEST WITH YOU I WOULD HAVE TO ASK KYLE ON ABORTION. HE HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OR TERRY HAS BEEN MORE IN DEPTH ON THIS OJECT WITH EVERYBODY. I CAN GET THAT BACK FOR YOU RIGHT AWAY.
>> IF HE COULD. I BELIEVE THIS COURT PASSED A TOTAL COST.
>> HATE COMMISSIONER, YOU DID. THAT'S A MISSED TYPE ON OUR
PART. >> I THINKTHE 5045 WAS OLD ORIGINAL NUMBER AND IT JUST NEEDS TO BE ORRECTED HUGS TO JOE PASS THIS OUT TO US? THIS PRESENTATION?
>> NO I DID NOT. ONLY GOT IT BEFORE WALKED INTO THE COURT.
I WILL SEND THIS ELECTRONICALLY TO YOU.
>> IT WOULD BE GREAT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT. NEXT AS YOU CAN SEE THE NEXT SLIDE WITH THESE ARE SOME RENDERINGS. YOU HAVE THE FRONT ENTRANCE RENDERINGAND ANOTHER ANGLE OF THE FRONT ENTRANCE FOR BOTH SIDES THE DEPENDENCE OF OUR I KNOW THERE'S A LOT MORE TO GO ON THIS PROJECT NEXT SLIDE IS COUNTYWIDE ACCESSIBILITY PROJECT.
COMPLETED ACTIVITIES RIGHT NOW IS H S DEMOLITION, POND AREA.
BLESS YOU. THE ONGOING UPCOMING ACTIVITIES FOR THIS WOULD BE EARTHWORK. FOR BUILDING PAD UNDERGROUND UTILITIES AND EXCAVATE DETENTION POND. THE PROJECT MILESTONES ON THIS PROJECT DESIGN PHASE. COMPLETE AUGUST
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2021. PROCUREMENT PHASE SEPTEMBER/OCTOBER 2021.CONSTRUCTION PHASE JULY 22 THROUGH AUGUST 23. PROJECT IS BEHIND SCHEDULE. THAT WAS BECAUSE A PERMIT DELAY BECAUSE OF PROJECT TO START 5 MONTHS LATE.
>> HEY SHANE THIS IS JP. BUT A JUMP IN HERE. IT LOOKS LIKE THE SLIDE YOU'VE GOT UP HERE IS FROM ANOTHER EDITION OF THIS PRESENTATION. PLEASE SCRIPT THIS WOULD LOOK AT THE CORRECT
VERSION TO THE COMMISSIONERS. >> OKAY.
>> YOU'RE GOOD TO GO FORWARD HERE SHANE.
>> ALL RIGHT. COURTHOUSE, GEL AND ANNEX. CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW COMPLETED ACTIVITIES. GENERATOR BID. THEY HAVE BEEN PURCHASED, STORED AND ARE NOW SITTING IN HOUSTON. THE PHASE 2 BID WORK AND CONSTRUCTION IS NOW INITIATED. THE SITE CLEARING AND GRADED HAS STARTED TO HAPPEN ON BOTH THE COURTHOUSE AND A MCKENZIE JAIL ANNEX. AT MCKENZIE JAIL ANNEX TOMORROW WE WILL BE POURING THE PEERS FOR THE POUND OUT THERE.
ONGOING OR UPCOMING ACTIVITIES PLACING THE CONCRETE PAIRS, UNDERGROUND CONDUIT, INSTALLATION OR, GENERATOR PAD INSTALLATION AND GENERATOR PLACEMENT. CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING BOTH PADS BOARD BY NOVEMBER 30.
WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO PLACE THE GENERATORS THE FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER. DESIGN PHASE HAS BEEN COMPLETED FEBRUARY 22 21.
PROCUREMENT PHASE WAS COMPLETED MARCH 21. GENERATOR EQUIPMENT IN APRIL 22. PHASE 2 HAS STARTED. CONSTRUCTION PHASE 2 STARTED IN AUGUST 2020 AND SHOULD BE COMPLETED DECEMBER 31, 2022. PROJECT IS ON SCHEDULE. TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET IS 1,720,000 CONSTRUCTION COST IS 8,355,000. PROJECT COST TO DATE IS 2,000,004 04. CONSTRUCTION COST TO DATE IS TO
MADE 32. >> ABOUT WANTING TO ASK THIS.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ALL IN AND THIS IS THE FIRST SLIDE. CAN YOU DO, I'LL LET YOU DOUBLE CHECK AND TRIPLE CHECK. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THOSE COST SAVINGS ALLOCATE THEM TO SOMETHING ELSE. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE CAN ACTUALLY SAY YEAH, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AND WE KNEW THERE WERE SAVINGS WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE A FIRM NUMBER.
THIS AT LEAST GETS US IN THE BALLPARK OF WHERE WE ARE. LIKE
1.41.5. >> WILL IT WITH THE TEAM AND GET BACK WITH YOU WITHOUT INFORMATION. N.
. THE CURRENTLY SLIGHT ON THE LEFT IS SHOWING THE CAGES THAT WOULD BE D FOR THE PEERS OUT AT MCKENZIE. THE CENTER PICTURE SHOWING WHAT IS OUT IN THE CHAIR'S PARKING LOT. THAT'S THE SLAB THAT HAS BEEN DOG GETTING PREPPED RIGHT THERE.
THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS MCKENZIE JAILS ACTUAL PAD.
OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE THE COURTHOUSE JAIL. I'M SORRY, MINE DIDN'T GO HERE. NEXT WE HAVE THE ENERGY-SAVING PERFORMANCE CONTRACT. COMPLETED ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW HAPPENED IS THE FAIRGROUNDS HVAC REPLACEMENT FOR THE 4 UNITS THAT WERE DONE IN A CHANGE ORDER. THE WINDOW UPGRADES ARE COMPLETED. BUILDING MOISTURE INTRUSION AND FAIRGROUNDS IS COMPLETED. THE PAVING IS COMPLETED EXCEPT FOR THE RINGS AROUND THE HORSE ARENA. WHICH THE PUBLIC GOING TO BE DELAYED A LITTLE BIT LONGER ON THAT TO WITH THE DEAL THAT'S GOING OUT THERE FOR SATURDAY. THEY ARE TRYING AS THEY GO. THE HVAC UNIT REPLACEMENT AT THE JAIL IS COMPLETE. THE LIGHTING UPGRADES HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
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ONGOING ACTIVITIES THAT ARE COMING UP RIGHT NOW. CARPET REPLACEMENT AT THE FAIRGROUNDS IN THE OFFICES. THIS ACTUALLY AS ABM HAS STATED WOULD BE NOVEMBER 4 THEY WOULD BE COMPLETED BY. THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S SOME STUFF GOING ON AT THE FAIRGROUNDS THAT'S NOT GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO GET IN UNTIL III AND 4TH TO GET THAT FINISHED. LANDSCAPING AT THE FAIRGROUNDS IS TO BE COMPLETED AT THE END OF THIS WEEK.LIGHTING AT THE FAIRGROUNDS AND AT MCKENZIE FOR THE BUILDINGS ON THE PARKING LOTS ARE COMPLETE. THEN THE PUNCHLIST AND COMMISSIONING OF THE BOILERS AND CHILLERS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN NEXT ONCE PUNCHLIST WORK IS COMPLETED.
THEN YOU HAVE THE CHANGE ORDER WORK WHICH WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, WHICH OF THE 9 UNITS THAT WILL BE COMING FROM PROTECH AND AT THAT SAME TIME THE SMOKE PURGE SYSTEM WILL BE REPLACED IN THE JAIL. THE REASON WHY THE SMOKE PURGE WAS DELAYED ON THAT AND WE'VE ALSO TALKED WITH THE SHERIFF AND THE FIRE MARSHAL REGARDING THIS IS BECAUSE THOSE UNITS HAVE TO COME OUT IN ORDER TO GET THE NEW HVAC UNITS IN THE ROOM.
SO, AS A PROJECT MILESTONE ON THE ISSUE. THE DESIGN PHASE COMPLETE AUGUST 2021. PROCUREMENT PHASE SEPTEMBER /OCTOBER 2021. CONSTRUCTION PHASE JULY 22 THROUGH AUGUST 23. THE PROJECT IS BEHIND SCHEDULE ENTER MILESTONES.
INITIATED CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 4 EXTENDED THE TOTAL DURATION UNTIL MARCH 23. TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET WAS 32 MILLION 893.
CURRENT COST TO DATE IS 26,000,004 25 AND THEN THE NEXT LINE. THAT SHOWS YOU SOME RES OF SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE GOING ON. YOU HAVE THE HVAC THAT WAS INSIDE OF THE CHILD THAT WAS BEINGING INSTALLED AND THE PIPING THAT HAS GONE ON. YOU HAVE THE VORTEX SYSTEM THAT IS SITTING ON TOP OF THE ROOF AT ZIE JAIL ANNEX. III PICTURE TO THE IGHT IS A BOILER PATENT NUMBER 3 WHEN THEY WERE INSTALLING NOT. T. THENN PICTURE NUMBER 4 WHICH IS PART OF THE WATER SYSTEM THAT'S INSIDE THE JAIL. ANY QUESTIONS?
>> OKAY GREAT. THANK YOU. IT'S JUST A LOT. SO, I'M ALWAYS WORRIED ABOUT THE COURTS. I APPRECIATE, I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING, KNOCK ON EVERY PIECE OF WOOD HERE.
YOU'RE SHOWCASING FOR ME THE ADA IS THE ONE WE ARE FEELING THE MOST. BECAUSE IT'S INSIDE THE COURTHOUSE AND PARTICULARLY IN THE TOWER SIGN. CAN YOU ASSURE ME, IF WE NEED TO OBVIOUSLY WE CAN ALWAYS MOVE AROUND. ARE WE DOING WELL WITH COORDINATING WITH THE COURTS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEIR TRIAL SCHEDULES ARE NOT IMPEDED? I KNOW THEY ARE CERTAINLY INCONVENIENCED IN SOME REGARDS. HOW ARE WE DOING
THERE? >> OR DOING GREAT THERE.
BRANDON HAS DONE A GREAT JOB. AFTER WE WENT TO BOARD OF JUDGES MEETING WE STARTED COORDINATING WITH THE JUDGE'S CLOSELY ON THIS. THAT HAS REALLY HELPED US IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY GAIN SOME SPACES IN ORDER TO WORK BECAUSE THEY REALLY KEPT IN CONTACT WITH BRANDON AND MYSELF AND ORDERING WHAT WE COULD DO, IF WE CAN EXTEND INSTEAD OF TRYING TO CLOSE UP THE COURT SO THEY CAN GET BACK INTO IT. THEY'VE REALLY STARTED TO SAY NO, GO AHEAD AND FINISH WE WILL TAKE
THIS ONE OVER. >> OKAY, SUPER. ANYTHING ELSE? AGAIN I'M FOCUSED ON ADA BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF US. ANYTHING ELSE YOU'RE THINKING, GOSH HINDSIGHT BEING 2020. SOMETIMES IT'S BETTER TO KNOW NOW THAT'S A WEIGHT AFTER. OR TO FAR INTO OUR PROJECT APPEARED TO FEEL LIKE WE ARE ADDRESSING THE NEEDS THAT WE NEED TO WITH THE COURTHOUSE? OR HAS IT REVEALED ITSELF?
>> THERE COUPLE ISSUES WE ARE WORKING WITH THE DESIGN TEAM RIGHT NOW ON. AS SOON AS DOES THE DESIGN TEAM AS AN ANSWER IN A WAY FOR US TO GO ON THOSE WE WILL MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.
>> OKAY, SUPER. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING ADA? HOW ABOUT ANIMAL CARE? FAIRGROUNDS? ANNEX?
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GENERATORS? OKAY SHANE. THAT CASE TO MOVE ON TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. GRATEFUL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. BY THE WAY JP IS GOING TO SEND I DATE AND I DATE IS GONNA SEND IT TO ALL OF US.I APPROVED IT BUT I THINK IT'S OKAY TO TALK ABOUT IT. WERE GONNA OPEN UP 38 18. WE APPROVED ARBOR DAY COMMISSIONER BUT LET'S TAKE A LOOK. THANKS FOR THE MAP. IT'S BASICALLY PART OF THEIR 2020 BOND. THEY DO HAVE MONEY FOR IT. IT LOOKS LIK, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT IT?
>> ALSO TELL YOU JUDGE ON THE WEIGHT OUT TO PORT A YOU'RE GONNA TAKE A RIGHT BETWEEN MILE MARKERS 2 AND 3 JUST TO GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE OF WHERE IT WAS. THAT'S IT.
>> OKAY. VERY GOOD. >> HOPEFULLY IT WILL PASS. WE
[4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.]
NEED A BEACH ACCESS. >> THIS IS JUST INFORMATION ONLY. RIGHT NOW WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND GIVE NOTICE THAT I'M DOING SO PROVIDED BY THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT CHAPTER 551 THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. AND IN ACCORDANCE FOR VERNON'S TEXAS CODE SECTION 551 THAT'S ALL CHAPTERS 551 IN THE SUBSECTIONS. WE DO SO TO CONSULT WITH OUR ATTORNEY IN EXECUTIVE SESSION INCLUDING MATTERS RELATING TO LITIGATION, PERSONAL MATTERS, TERMINATION, SKIRTING DEVICES, ECONOMIC MOMENT AND OTHER MATTERS THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO, WITH THAT FOR THE CLERK, 4 8 PM. I WILL ASK ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T NEED TO BE HERE TO CLEAR THE COURTROOM. LOOKS LIKE MOST PEOPLE HAVE.
WE WILL GIVE EVERYONE A CHANCE. TAKE US OFF COMPLETELY.
ANYBODY ONLINE YOU HAVE TO GO >> IT'S 5:15 PER MAN WE KNOW WE
[23. Discuss and consider approval of mediated settlement agreement disposing of Marta Ruiz’s claim, address request by Ms. Ruiz’s attorney fees in the amount of $10,000 and determine if the Court will accept the amount and authorize County Auditor to pay the amount approved by the Court; authorize County Judge to execute settlement documents.]
ARE AFTER 5 O'CLOCK. WILL HE HAVE ONE ITEM I BELIEVE NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED IDE, COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. MR. GONZALES TO HAVE A MOTION REGARDING THE MARTHA LOUISECLAIM? >> I MAKE A MOTION WE AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY CONTINUE THE SETTLEMENT WITH MRS. LUIS.
IF SHE ACCEPTS THE SETTLEMENT AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY AUDITOR TO
PAY MARTHA LOUISE CLAIM. >> AND FOR MYSELF TO SIGN THE SETTLEMENT ALL RIGHT, AND SO WITH THAT I WILL TAKE THAT AS
A MOTION. IS OUR SECOND? >> SECOND.
>> SECOND FROM TRUSTEE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I APPEARED OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE?
>> YES A DATE FOR THE MEETING? >> THE ESCAPE FOR THE MEETING AS A REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING.
>> OF GHANA CONFLICT ON THAT DAY. I COULD MISS THE WHOLE DAY OR JUST COME IN THE MORNING FROM 9 Ã11:30. WE DO THE BILLS AND THE DRAINAGE AND THAT'S IT. I'VE GOT TO GO AFTER THAT. I'M STRETCHING IT AS IT IS. I HAVE A CONFLICT.
>> THE CONFLICT IS MEDICAL IN NATURE. I THINK THE POLICY
DOES STATE MEDICAL. >> UNLESS WE JUST DO IT.
>> IF IT'S NOT MEDICAL WE COULD JUST DO.
>> THAT WILL BE MY MOTION. >> I NEED TO FOLLOW THE POLICY.
>> HE COULD STILL MAKE A MOTION .
>> I NEED TO MAKE SURE NOVEMBER 2. I HAVE ITEMS THAT I DO NOT PUT ON THIS ONE BECAUSE I NEED TO HAVE IT ON NOVEMBER 2 THAT
ARE BEING DEVELOPED. >> I MIGHT BE IN AUSTIN. I WILL PROBABLY BE HERE IN THE MORNING. I CAN'T COVER THE WHOLE DAY BUT I WILL BE HERE HALF A DAY.
>> I SECOND THE MOTION AND DISCUSS IT. I JUST ONE SECOND
HIS MOTION. >> AND DISCUSSION WE NEED TO HAVE THIS MEETING TAKE PLACE. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU COULD BE HERE IN THE MORNING AND WE WILL DO OUR BEST. WE CAN'T MAKE PROMISES TO NOT HAVE APPEARED I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING ON THE SECOND. FOR EXAMPLE, THE PRIVATIZATION OF
THE PROJECTS THEMSELVES. >> THAT'S WHAT HE SAID, THE
DRAINAGE. >> THAT COULD TAKE A LITTLE WHILE. I DON'T THINK THAT IS FAIR. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE
LAW EITHER. >> BILLS AND THEN DRAINAGE.
>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO THIS. I APPRECIATE
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YOU NEED TO BE SOMEWHERE AND WE ARE FINE AS LONG AS WE HAVE A QUORUM. THE PURPOSE OF A QUORUM IS TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.WE CAN TRY AND WORK WITH THE COURT MANAGER AS MUCH AS WE CAN BUT, I CANNOT PROMISE IT WILL END AT NOON.
>> JUDGE, HE'S MADE A SPECIFIC MOTION. IF HE'S MADE A SPECIFIC MOTION AND IT SECONDED. . IN OTHER WORDS YOU COULD MOVE TO CANCEL THE WHOLE THING. THEN WE GET INTO THE
BILLS. >> FIRST OF ALL, CAN SOMEONE PERMIT THE POLICY REAL QUICK? WILL YOU BRING IT UP FOR ME SO
I CAN LOOK AT IT. >> THE POLICY IS IF IT'S BETWEEN MEETINGS AND THERE'S A MEDICAL EMERGENCY.
>> IS THIS AN EMERGENCY? >> ANYONE CAN CHANGE A MEETING AT ANY TIME IF THERE'S A CONSENSUS OF THE COURT. THE POLICY IS IF WERE BETWEEN MEETINGS AND THERE'S A CONFLICT. THE COUNTY MANAGER KNOWS WHAT THE RULE IS ON THAT ANYBODY COULD CHANGE A MEETING AT ANY TIME IF THE COURTS, MAJORITY OF THE COURT SUPPORTS IT. THAT'S TOTALLY ALLOWABLE.
WE COULD MOVE A MEETING, TABLE A MEETING, POSTPONED A MEETING WE COULD DO WHATEVER WE WANT TO DO WITH THE REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE OUT.
>> AGAIN. >> IT'LL TAKE CARE OF THE BILLS
AND DRAINAGE. >> I KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE COMES UP. I WILL HAVE TO REALLY THINK. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE IS COMING UP. WE WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS. >THAT'S NOT THE RULE. CAN I
HAVE THE RULE JENNY, PLEASE. >> I'M GOING THROUGH AND I DON'T KNOW I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT ADDRESSES THIS SPECIFICALLY. I CAN FORWARD THIS DOCUMENT TO YOU.
>> IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THE POLICY ABOUT THIS.
>> IT'S NOT A MEDICAL EMERGENCY. BASICALLY COMMISSIONER I REALLY DO, I WANT TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY.
THIS IDEA THAT SOMEONE COULD JUST RAISE HER HAND AND GO, HEY I CAN BE HERE THEREFORE WE ALL NEED TO COUNSEL IS NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE PEOPLE'S WORK. WE WILL DO THE VERY BEST WE
CAN. >> WE ARE NOT COUNSELING.
HAVING THE MEETING. LIMITING THE MEETING TO ALL ITEMS OF HAVE TO BE BILLS PAID THE DRAINAGE. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE
TODAY. >> I HAVE AGENDA ITEMS THAT WILL BE BEYOND THAT. THAT IS VERY, AND MAYBE COMMISSIONER CANALES DOES. WE GOT INTO THIS DEBATE AND IT'S NOT A GOOD ONE.
WE PAY ABLE TO RUN THE COURTS BUSINESS LIKE WE'VE DONE FOR DECADES AND DECADES AND DECADES. IF YOU MISS A MEETING YOU MISS A MEETING. BY THE WAY WE ALSO HAVE VIRTUAL NOW. YOU CAN PARTICIPATE LITERALLY SOMEONE CAN DRIVE YOU AND YOU COULD BE ON THIS PHONE. ON A PHONE YOU CAN BE WITH YOUR FACE. WITH THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE CANCELING MEETINGS UNLESS THERE ARE EMERGENCIES. THAT'S THE POLICY. LET ME TAKE A LOOK
AT IT. >> WERE NOT CANCELING IT.
>> I'M NOT GONNA CHANGE THE CONTEXT OF IT.
>> THAT WAS THE MOTION MADE AND IT WAS SECONDED.
>> YOU CAN ONLY TAKE UP PROPER MOTIONS COMMISSIONER.
>> NOT IF IT'S NOT COMPORTED WITH THE POLICY. HOLD ON.
HERE COMES. GIVE ME JUST A SECOND. MAYBE YOU'RE RIGHT.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT IT. >> THAT'S A POLICY BETWEEN MEETINGS. WE CAN DO ANYTHING WE WANT.
>> NOVEMBER 2 IS A REGULAR MEETING.
>> WE CAN CANCEL, CHANGE OF POSTPONED. IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME IN LIFE. IT DOESN'T SAY BECAUSE IT'S NOVEMBER 2 IT HAS
TO STAY THAT WAY. >> WILL WORK OUR MEDICAL LIVES AROUND MEETINGS. I KNOW I DO. I HAVE A CHRONICALLY ILL CHILD AND I WORK AROUND MEETINGS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS. WE CANNOT KEEP MAKING THESE TYPES OF ARBITRARY RULES WHEN QUITE FRANKLY WE HAVE ALREADY A BIG GAP BETWEEN THE 16TH. WHAT'S TODAY? THE 19TH AND THE SECOND. HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
I'M READING IT. IN CASE I'M WRONG.
>> I'LL BE HAPPY TO MOVE IT TO THE NOVEMBER 9 SO THERE'S NOT A BIG OUT. > WE HAVE CONFLICTS ON THE NINTH. HANG ON. THE POINT IS THAT, FIRST OF ALL LET ME HAVE A MOTION TO KEEP GOING. BELIEVERS MUST BE DONE BY NOW.
>> THIS IS THE LAST THING. >> LET'S JUST DO IT FOR MATTER OF COURSE. 5 MORE MINUTES. IF IT'S NOT PROPER ALL OF US AFTER
VOTE FOR IT. >> JUDGE, IT IS PROPER. YOU CAN MOVE A MEETING WITH NO PROBLEM.
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>> GIVE ME ONE SECOND. JENNY, CAN YOU HELP ME.
>> JUDGE, I'M LOOKING THROUGH IT. I'M LOOKING FOR THE PORTION THAT TALKS ABOUT EMERGENCY.
>> MEETING GUIDELINES? NO? >> THAT ONE SAYS BASICALLY IF THERE IS A MEDICAL EMERGENCY AND IT CAN'T BE MOVED TO A DATE ACCOMMODATED BY EVERYONE THAT IT MOVES TO THE NEXT MEETING.
THIS IS NOT MOVING THE MEETING. THIS IS SHORTENING A MEETING OR WE COULD MOVE IT TO THE NINTH WHICH IS FINE. MAYBE THAT'S AVAILABLE. I'M HAPPY TO MOVE IT TO THE NINTH. THAT'S FINE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A BIG GAP. >> YOUR MOTION WAS TO LIMIT THE SCOPE OF THE MEETING TO BILLS AND DRAINAGE.
>> YEAH THAT IS NOT HELPFUL WE KNOW FOR A FACT THERE COULD BE IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT COME UP. WITH EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT.
YOU GAVE NO NOTICE AT ALL FOR THIS. NONE. EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD AS OF RIGHT TO COME IN AND SAY WAIT A MINUTE. I'VE GOT SOMETHING IMPORTANT. GOT INTO THIS DEBATE LAST TIME AND IT WAS AWFUL. BECAUSE I SAY GETS REQUEST.
>> THAT'S NOT WHY WE GOT INTO THAT DEBATE.
>> THAT WAS OVER THE DEFINITION OF EMERGENCIES AND URGENCIES.
>> WE ARE STILL LOOKING. I DON'T BELIEVE THIS MEETS THE QUALIFICATIONS. FIRST OF ALL IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY WE WOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT IT. IT WOULD BE AN EMERGENCY. IT'S A MEDICAL APPOINTMENT IT SOUNDS LIKE OR I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE HE WON'T DEFINE IT. I'M ASSUMING SOMETHING IMPORTANT. YOU HAVE THE VIRTUAL CAPABILITY TO GO IN THE AFTERNOON. DON'T FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE LIMITING OUR MEETINGS.
>> LET'S MOVE IT TO THE NIGHT. >> THAT MAY BE CONVENIENT FOR YOU BUT I HAVE NOT CHECKED MY CALENDAR.
>> CHECK IT. >> COMMISSIONER MAREZ AS PART OF THIS TEAM TOO. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THE NINTH.
>> MAYBE THERE ISN'T A ROLE. THERE IS A ROLE. WE PASSED IT.
IT WASN'T A GOOD RULE EITHER BUT WE DID IT. WE DID IT BECAUSE WE DECIDED IT WAS NOT A GOOD IDEA TO GO OUT AND TRY TO GET ENFORCEABILITY OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS BUT, THE REASON THE QUORUM EXISTS IS BECAUSE A QUORUM IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED.
NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HELD HOSTAGE BY PEOPLE'S SCHEDULES.
HOWEVER, WE ALL TRYING TO GET COURTEOUS.
>> DON'T HOLD ME HOSTAGE. >> YOUR HOLDING US HOSTAGE.
RETURN TO DICTATE TO THE COURT.
>> THEN MOVE IT TO THE NINTH. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
THAT. >> MOVE IT TO THE NINTH, SHORT
ON THE SECOND, WHICHEVER. >> I HAVE A CONFLICT ON THE NINTH. SO YOU KNOW WHAT, THE REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING, BY THE WAY THE NINTH WOULD BE A SPECIAL MEETING. BUT YOU SAID WERE NOT HAVING SPECIAL MEETINGS UNLESS THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. IT'S LIKE YOU CONFLICT YOUR OWN
POLICIES. >> OKAY. WERE MAKING ACCOMMODATION FOR YOU WANTED TO HAVE A MEETING COOKS WERE MAKING ACCOMMODATION FOR ONE PERSON. NOT THE WHOLE COURT.
>> IT'S A MOTION AND A SECOND JUDGE.
>> ONLY IF IT'S PROPER. TO BE HONEST I WANTED TO BE BRINGING THIS WILL UP WITH YOU FOR A WHILE. ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER REQUIRE IF THE MOTION IS NOT PROPER THAT IT HAS A DIFFERENT
STANDARD, A THRESHOLD. >> JUDGE THERE'S NOTHING IMPROPER ABOUT LIVING A MEETING. YOU'RE KIDDING ME RIGHT? PEOPLE MOVE MEETINGS ALL THE TIME.
>> YOUR CLAIMING THE POLICY REQUIRES IT.
>> IN CLAIMING A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE, SECONDED AND WE COULD MOVE A MEETING. I NEVER BROUGHT UP THE POLICY. YOU'RE THE ONE TALKING ABOUT THE POLICY.
>> I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO START MOVING EVERYTHING ON THE NINTH BRENT. I CAN'T COMMIT TO SOMETHING AT 5:15. YOU SHOULD'VE BROUGHT THIS UP AT ADM THIS MORNING.
>> HOW? YOU DIDN'T RING IT UP UNTIL NOW.
>> NOT YOU, COMMISSIONER GONZALES.
>> DOES NOT FAVOR THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. I WOULD APPRECIATE AS A COURT MANAGER YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE ITEMS THAT COULD COME UP NOW FOR GOING TO BE
LIMITED TO 2 ITEMS. >> SHE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
US. >> SHE MANAGES THE DEPARTMENTS
AGENDA ITEMS. >> I DIDN'T TELL HER EITHER.
HOW DOES SHE KNOW? YOU ALWAYS WANT TO BLAME A DAY. WHAT'S NOT PLANING HER CHINOS WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT THERE ARE ITEMS THAT COULD COME UP. IF WE LIMIT OURSELVES ON THE SECOND ONLY THING WE COULD DO IS POSTPONE THAT WHICH WE CANNOT
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>> I'M NOT CALLING IT, IT'S IMPROPER. YOU CAN CALL IT.
IT'S NOT VALID. I WILL LET YOU CALL IT SO I CAN BE ASSURED THAT A VALID ONE. THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE A MEETING ON SECOND.
>>YOU CANNOT. >> YOU CALL IT IF YOU WANT TO.
I WOULD ADJOURN THE MEETING IF YOU DON'T CALL IT.
>>THEN BE CLEAR I WILL NOT SHOW UP AT ANY TIME ON THE SECOND OR THE NINTH. THAT IS MINE AND I WILL MAKE SURE THE MEDIA
UNDERSTANDS CLEARLY. >> I WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T WANT TO WORK.
>> THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED.
>> JENNY, CAN YOU HELP US OUT HERE PLEASE. WE HAVE RULES. I DON'T LIKE THE RULES BUT, WE MADE A ROLE TO STATE THIS IS HOW WE WOULD EXCUSE SOMEBODY. WHITE WITH THE TEXAS LAW SAYS A QUORUM SHALL BE ESTABLISHED WE HAVE THESE MEETINGS THAT ARE POSTED. PEOPLE EXPECT WE STICK TO THE SCHEDULE. HE CONTINUES TO DO THIS. CONTINUES TO CREATE. HE'S GOT CONFLICTS. I GET IT. HE HAS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK AROUND THIS CONFLICT. WE HAVE A VIRTUAL CAPABILITY COULD AND IT DOES NOT FIT THE EMERGENCY. IT DOES NOT FIT THE EMERGENCY.
>> WE DON'T KNOW THAT. >> THERE'S 2 DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON. YOU HAVE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. THEN YOU HAVE THE POLICIES OF THE COURT. THE POLICIES OF THE COURT YOU CAN FOLLOW. YOU CANNOT FOLLOW AS A COURT CHOOSES TO DO. OPEN MEETINGS ACT YOU'VE NOTICED THIS MEETING. YOU CAN CHANGE IT IF YOU NEED TO GO. IT WOULDN'T BE IMPROPER TO TALK ABOUT MOVING A DATE OR CHANGING THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT RISES TO THE LEVEL OF EMOTIONS SAY TO DO SOMETHING ILLEGAL. I WOULD NOT BE A PROPER MOTION BEFORE THE COURT. IF YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT AGAINST TOMA YOU SHOULD BE OKAY. IF YOU'RE OKAY AND YOU HAVE YOUR POLICIES THERE IS NO PROBLEM IF YOU WANT TO MOVE. I DON'T HAVE A POLICY IN HERE THAT I FOUND OTHER THAN AN SAYS THE COURT MANAGER IS ABLE TO CONTACT IN AN EMERGENCY, ALL THE COMMERCIALS TO TALK ABOUT THE DATE AS LONG AS THEY DON'T VIOLATE TOMA. I DON'T THANK YOU HAVE AN AUTOMATIC VIOLATION BY SAYING IT'S AN IMPROPER
MOTION IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT. >> I WAS TRYING TO GET HIM A UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR DOING. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WHAT I WAS SUGGESTING IS THE POLICY ITSELF WAS BUILT FOR SPECIAL SITUATION. IT WAS TO SAY HEY, WE MIGHT HAVE A COMMISSIONER THAT MIGHT HAVE, OR JUDGE THE MIGHT HAVE AN EMERGENCY. WE NEED TO MAKE AN ALLOWANCE FOR THAT.
>> RIGHT. >> THAT WAS THE GOOD COMMON SENSE BEHIND IT. THAT'S NOT THIS. I DECLARE I HAVE TO BE SOMEWHERE AND THEREFORE I'M GOING TO CANCEL BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS. IT'S A CANCELLATION OF A REGULAR POSTED MEETING OR I WILL THREATEN YOU AND SAYING I COULD ONLY HAVE 2 ITEMS. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WORDS IN MY MIND THE ESSENCE OF BEING ABLE TO SET AN AGENDA.
>> IS NOT ILLEGAL, UNMORAL OR UNETHICAL.
>> WHAT WE DO HALF DAY ON NOVEMBER 2 AND THE REST ON THE
NINTH IN THE AFTERNOON. >> THAT'S WHAT I SAID JUDGE.
>> I HAVE TO SEE IF I CAN SCHEDULE THAT. WE CAN MAKE THAT SUBJECT TO. THE MORNING OF THE SECOND. I DO NOT THINK SHOULD BE LIMITED TO ANYTHING AS MUCH AS WE CAN GET DONE FROM
THE SECOND. >> JUDGE, HE'S MADE A MOTION IT'S BEEN SECONDED YOU ASKED JENNY FOR AN OPINION. SHE GAVE YOU A LEGAL OPINION THAT SAID WE COULD MOVE A MEETING.
AGAIN, WE MADE A MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION AND SECONDED TO
CALL THE QUESTION. >> WERE NOT DOING IT PURSUANT TO THE POLICY. I WANT TO HEAR YOU SAY IT.
>> I WANT TO HEAR YOU SAY WERE NOT DOING IT PURSUANT TO THE POLICY. YOU'RE DOING IT FOR YOUR FRIEND WHAT IS THE POLICY?
>> ALREADY SAID WHAT THE POLICY WAS. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DURING MEETINGS. IT'S WHEN WE ARE NOT IN THE MEETING AND DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A DECISION IN AN OPEN MEETING LIKE WERE DOING HERE. JUDGE, IF YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO MOVE A MEETING I MAKE THE SAME ACCOMMODATION FOR YOU.
ROBERT WANTED TO MOVE MEETING I SAY YOU BET.
>> HERE IS THE BOTTOM LINE. IF YOU WANT TO SPLIT 29 TO GET OUR AGENDA DONE THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED. BUT, WHAT I'M NOT GOING TO DO IS NOT HAVE ITEMS BASED ON THE AGENDA. WE HAVE A RIGHT UNDER THE LAW TO DO IT.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY IF AN ITEM IS MOTION TO
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SECONDED IT. >> THAT IS IMPROPER.
>> IT IS NOT IMPROPER. >> NOT THE TIMEFRAME. WHAT YOU PUT ON THE AGENDA PRINT. NOT THE TIMEFRAME.
>> WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE IN THIS COURT.
>> I SAID IT WAS ILLEGAL THEN. IT'S ILLEGAL NOW.
>> IF YOU DON'T FINISH THE NEW LEAVE IT TO THE NINTH? >> THAT'S RIGHT. IF YOU DON'T FINISH YOU LEAVE IT TO THE NINTH. THAT'S CORRECT. IF YOU DON'T FINISH YOU LEAVE IT TO THE NINTH. MY OBJECTION TO MR. GONZALES IS THAT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO THE TEXAS LAW TO RESTRICT SOMEBODY FROM PLACING SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA. YOU CANNOT VOTE YOUR WAY AGAINST TEXAS LAW. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME.
>> YOU'RE THE ONE THAT SAID LAST TIME WHEN WE HAD A MEETING IT WAS YOUR IDEA TO DO NOTHING BUT BILLS. THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU INCLUDED 35 OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. YOU'RE THE ONE THAT SAID WE ARE GOING HAVE A MEETING AND ALL WE ARE GOING TO DO IS BILLS. BOOKS NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID.
>> THAT THERE WAS 35 MORE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
>> R-BILLINGS NOBODY HERE WANTS TO GO BACK IN TIME. LET'S NOT DO THAT. THE POINT OF THE MATTER IS IT'S AGAINST TEXAS LAW TO RESTRICT A COMMISSIONER OR A JUDGE FROM PLACING AN ITEM
ON THE AGENDA. >> OF COURSE IT IS ON A NORMAL
AGENDA. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT. >> IS NOT AGAINST THE LAW TO LIMIT AN AGENDA IN THE AMOUNT OF TIME IN A CERTAIN AGENDA
ONLY. IT'S NOT. >> IF ALL OF US AGREE PRINT,
THAT'S FINE. I DISAGREE. NO. >> JUDGE. YOU CAN'T HONESTLY
SAY IT HAS TO BE 5 Ã0 VOTE. >> PRINT, YOU CANNOT MOTION YOUR WAY OUT OF RESTRICTIONS. YOU CANNOT DO THAT. YOU CANNOT RESTRICT YOURSELF BY A VOTE. YOU CAN'T SAY JUDGE, I'M ONLY GOING ALLOW YOU TO PUT ON ONE ITEM.
>> I'M NOT SAYING YOU. I'M SAYING THE MOTION WAS, YES YOU CAN. YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO SET A SPECIFIC AGENDA.
>> NO, YOU CAN'T. IF EVERYONE AGREES ON A SPECIAL.
>> YOU CAN MAKE THAT. YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN MAKE IT A SPECIFIC AGENDA. WE DO IT ALL THE TIME. > IF ALL OF US
AGREE. >> IT'S NOT IF ALL OF US AGREES. IF IT'S MAJORITY OF THE VOTE.
>> NO, IT GOES AGAINST THE FACT, THE WHOLE PREMISE THAT I HAVE AGENDA ITEMS I'M TRYING TO ADVANCED ON NOVEMBER 2. IF I HAVE AN AGENDA OR MISSION OR CONTENT HAS AN AGENDA THAT YOU CANNOT RESTRICT IT. THAT'S MY OBJECTION.
>> YOU CANNOT RESTRICT IT IF THERE'S NOT A SPECIFIC MOTION THAT THE COURT HAS PASSED. I WOULD AGREE.
>> WE ARE STILL ARGUING ABOUT THE SAME THING.
>> I THANK YOU CAN MAKE A SPECIFIC MOTION.
>> YOU THANK YOU COULD HAVE AN AGENDA THAT IS VOTED ON. I SAY THAT IS WRONG. YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
>> LET'S TAKE THE VOTE. YOU CAN CHALLENGE IT HOWEVER YOU
WANT TO CHALLENGE IT LEGALLY. >> AT SILLY FOR YOU TO WASTE THE COURTS TIME TO DO THAT. YOU ARE RESTRICTING MY ABILITY AND EVERY COMMISSIONER'S ABILITY TO PLACE AN AGENDA ALL BECAUSE HE CAN'T GET HIS DOCTORS APPOINTMENTS DONE AT A CERTAIN TIME. ALL OF US DO IT. ALL OF US DO IT. THE PROBLEM YOU WILL RUN INTO IN SETTING A SPECIFIC AGENDA IS THEN YOU PLACE ON THE COURT T MANAGER THE POSSIBLE JOB OF INCURRING WITH EVERY COMMISSIONER WHETHER THEIR URGENT ITEM IS URGENT AND
WHY. >> EXCUSE ME, YOU'RE NOT EVEN
PART OF THIS CONVERSATION. >> I AM THE CLERK OF THE COURT.
I KEEP THE MINUTES. I AM NOT A PART OF THE NAM, I'M SORRY YOU'RE UPSET. YOU DON'T NEED TO BE RUDE TO ME. YOU'RE BEING
VERY RUDE. >> YOU'RE INTERRUPTING THE COURT PROCEEDING AND YOU'RE NOT A PARTY AT THEM.
>> I WAS TELLING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY THAT THAT WASN'T PART OF THE MOTION. THEY DIDN'T PUT EMERGENCY IN THE MOTION.
THAT'S IT. AGAIN I'M SORRY YOU'RE UPSET.
>> SHE'S TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH LOCALITY. OUR POLICY HAS TO DEAL WITH URGENCY.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO YELL. >> NOT YELLING AT YOU, YOU WILL
KNOW WHAT I AM. >> YOU NEED TO RELAX, PLEASE.
>> KARA, YOU'RE NOT A PART OF THIS YOU'RE NOT A PART OF IT.
>> IF THE COURT AGREES TO THAT I DO THINK THAT IS ABSOLUTE GREAT. THE REASON I MENTIONED THE EMERGENCY ONE FROM BEFORE IS THAT I BELIEVE INQUIRY WOULD BE THE SAME. IF YOU SAID A
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SHORT MEETING THEN YOU HAVE A COMMISSIONER OR COURT MEMBER THAT WANTS TO PUT AN ITEM ON AND IT GOES OVER THAT. YOU COULD RUN INTO A PROBLEM WITH KEEPING A COURT MEMBER FROMHAVING AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA. >> IF YOU SHUT A SPECIFIC AGENDA. LET'S SAY THE WORKSHOP , WHATEVER. WE DO THAT ALL THE TIME. WERE RESET SPECIFIC AGENDAS. THE MOTION HE MADE WAS SPECIFIC THAT SAID THIS WOULD BE THIS SPECIFIC AGENDA.
AGAIN, I'M HAPPY TO DO IT ON THE NINTH. THAT'S GREAT BUT, 9 Ã11 WITH A SPECIFIC AGENDA AND THEN PUT THE REST OF IT ON THE NINTH. I DON'T UNDERSTAND. BOOKS OF THE OBJECTION I HAVE, OKAY ABOUT THE OBJECTION I HAVE IS THAT NUMBER ONE MAC ITEMS ON NOVEMBER 2 SHOULD NOT BE RESTRICTED. IF YOU WANT TO A SHORT MEETING YOU CAN GET NSENSUS AS LONG AS YOU GET THE REMAINDER MAY BE ON THE NINTH. BUT, YOU CANNOT RESTRICT HOW MANY AGENDA ITEMS WE PUT ON. YOU CANNOT DO THAT. THAT IS
CONTRARY TO TEXAS LAW.. >> TEXAS LAW, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
I'M AGREEING WITH YOU THAT YOU CAN'T TELL I DAY NOT TO PUT MY AGENT ON OR OR CAN'T TELL I DAY TO NOT PUT MY AGENDA ON. THE SPECIFICIC EATING IS SET FOR SPECIFIC THING AND SPECIFIC TIME THAT IS ABSOLUTELY WITHIN THE REALM OF THE LAW. IT HAS TO BE WITHIN THE REALM OF THE LAW BY LOGIC BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO DO DO THINGS IN OTHER WORDS YOU CAN'T BE A SITUATION RE WERE WE CAN'T DICTATE AS A BODY BUT WE WANT OUR AGENDA TO . I AGREE WITH YOU ON THE BETWEEN. JENNY GAVE ME THAT LEGAL OPINION. I AGREE. THAT'S THE THING.
THING. THIS IS NOT THAT. THIS IS A SPECIFIC MOTION FOR SPECIFIC TIMEFRAME FOR SPECIFIC AGENDA WHICH WE HAVE DONE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS WITH WORKSHOPS FOR OTHER THINGS.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT PRECLUDES IT. THAT BEING SAID, HAPPY TO DO IT ON THE NINTH. HE'S BASED MOTION, THIS TO THE DRAINAGE AND THE BILLS WHICH ARE THE ONES THAT NEED TO BE DONE THE DO THE REST OF THE NIGHT. I DON'T REALLY GET IT.
>> I AGREE. >> IT'S A WEEK LATER.
>> I HOPE IT'S A CHANCE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE AGENDA IS.
WE MAY NOT HAVE A FULL AGENDA. THERE MAY BE PLENTY OF ITEMS. WE MAY BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S SMALLER MORE MANAGEABLE TO DO IT IN 2 PARTS OVER THE COURSE OF 2 WEEKS AND A FULL MEETING ON THE 17TH. I WAS LOOKING AT THE SECOND BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT I WANT TO PUT ON THERE. ACTIVELY THINK IT WOULD TAKE SOME TIME. IN FACT I SET UP A MEETING EARLIER TO MEET ON MONDAY TO PLAN SPECIFICALLY FOR AN AGENDA ITEM ON THE SECOND BECAUSE IT IS TIME SENSITIVE.
I'D LIKE THAT ITEM COVERED SO, DELAYING IT A DAY. CAN WE LOOK AT THE NEXT DATE SO THAT WHOLE WEEK. I MEAN SPREAD IT OUT SOMEHOW AND MAKE IT MORE ACCOMMODATING FOR EVERYONE.
SOME LIMIT WE HAVE TO CURTAIL OUR AGENDA IF NOT WE WOULD BE HERE UNTIL MIDNIGHT IF WE JUST DO AN ITEMS. THERE SOME WAY TO BALANCE IT OUT. IF WE COULD REMOVE PRESENTATIONS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARY ITEMS THAT HAVE TO ABSOLUTELY MUST HAVE A DEADLINE OR MUST BE COMPLETE BECAUSE WE HAVE A GRANT THAT WE NEED TO APPLY FOR OR SOME SORT OF PAPERWORK THAT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE COURT. THOSE ARE THINGS HOPEFULLY MY DAY TO WORK WITH THE COURT AND JUDGE ON TO PINPOINT HOW DO WE STREAMLINE IT A LITTLE BIT I THINK IT'S DOABLE. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF US HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF ITEMS. WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT A MEETING THAT'S POTENTIALLY 3 WEEKS OUT FROM TODAY. RIGHT? 2 OR 3 WEEKS OUT. I THINK THERE IS TIME TO WORK THROUGH IT. SO, WE HEAR THE COMMISSIONER IS NOT TO BE HERE. LET'S TRY TO WORK THROUGH IT. LIKE I SAID WE HAVE SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS THAT WERE GREAT TODAY BUT, IF THEY WERE ON THE SECOND COULD WE SAY YOU KNOW WHAT LET'S HOLD HIM TO THE NINTH OR 17TH. THE DECISION DOESN'T HAVE TO BE MADE. THAT'S WHAT I HOPE WE CAN DO. THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME TO STILL WORK IT OUT. I APPRECIATE THAT AGENDA ITEM IS ON EVERY WEEK SO WE CAN PLAN. WE DO HAVE A CALENDAR. I'VE MISSED DAYS FOR MEDICAL NEEDS. I'VE GOTTEN SICK ONCE. I WAS
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IN THE HOSPITAL. I MISSED A MEETING. IT HAPPENS, RIGHT? OUT OF COURTESY IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT IS BEING THAT WE NEED TO HOLD OFF ON FOR COMMISSIONER CONSOLE IS TO BE A PART OF IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE BEFORE ÃSEE MY VOTE.IT WILL BE VERY CONTROVERSIAL ENOUGH PUT IT ON INTO THE BUSINESS. I THINK WE COULD BE DONE. WE'VE ALL MISSED A MEETING HERE ARE THERE FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER. WE PARTICIPATE WHEN WE CAN A PERSON OR VIRTUALLY AS THE OPTION HAPPENS. SOMETIMES WE JUST CAN'T. I'M NOT GONNA ASK MR. TO JUSTIFY OR NOT. HE HAS A REASON AND THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME. IF WE CAN GET IDAY ALONG WITH OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY AND THE JUDGE IN OUR COURT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR AGENDA IS.
WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO DO IT. LET'S WORK IT OUT. WE'VE GOT TIME. THEN IF IT BECOMES A PROBLEM THEN LET'S WORK IT OUT.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS DEBATE. I JUST WANT SOME CLARITY. IF YOU COULD GET US SOMETHING, AND OPINION THAT CLARIFIES THAT WE SHOULD LIMIT OR RECANT LIMIT THE DEFINED WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO LIMIT? DOES THAT MEAN PUSHING IT A WEEK BACK? DESIGNING CURTAILING THE AGENDA TO BE DONE AROUND THE 12 O'CLOCK TIMEFRAME? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IF YOU COULD PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE PRETTY SOON FOR US. THAT WOULD APPEASE ME. I HEAR WHAT EVERYONE IS SAYING AND I WANT TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYONE'S NEEDS. YOU NEED TO GET WORK TO BE DONE. I DO WANT TO SEE IF WE HAVE ITEMS THAT COULD BE HELD A WEEK OR 2. THAT'S HOLDING BACK.
PRESENTATIONS, YEAH. LET'S PUSH HIM TO THE NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING. WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THOSE COME BEFORE US. I THINK THAT COULD SHRINK DOWN A LOT. DEPENDING ON HOW MANY LAWSUITS OR EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS WE HAVE TO REVIEW. THAT'S A WHOLE
ANOTHER ISSUE AS WELL. >> GREAT, THAT'S ALWAYS MY CONCERN. BETWEEN THE TIME WE ARE TALKING NOW AND NOVEMBER 2, THAT IS A LOT OF TIME FOR THINGS TO HAPPEN. WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME IS THERE WERE MULTIPLE LITIGATION RELATED ITEMS THAT NEEDED TO COME BEFORE THE COURT THAT DIDN'T EVEN TAKE VERY LONG. THERE WAS THIS IDEA THAT SOMEHOW THE COULDN'T BE PROCESSED. THAT IS IN MY OPINION, FORWARDING THE BUSINESS FOR THE COUNTY. THE REASON THE FORMS EXIST SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE SOMEBODY MISS.
THE LAW SAYS HEY, YOU GOTTA HAVE AT LEAST 3. NOT WITH VIRTUAL TECHNOLOGY IT'S FANTASTIC. YOU CAN LITERALLY BE HERE WITH US WHEN YOU'RE NOT HERE. AND BECAUSE OF THAT WE EVEN GO ONE STEP FURTHER AND WE SAY HEY, IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY WE ARE ALL GOING TO CONCEDE THAT THAT IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH FOR BEHOLD OFF. BUT, THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
WHAT I THINK IS REALLY VERY CRITICAL IS THAT WE DO WORK TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN BOTH ACCOMMODATE A COMMISSIONERS SCHEDULE ALTHOUGH I'LL BE AT ITS HERE AT THE END OF THE DAY. IT WOULD'VE BEEN A LOT NICER IF YOU KNOW THIS TO A BROUGHT FORTH WAY EARLIER BUT, WE HAVE CONFLICTS THAT ALREADY ARE SET BECAUSE WE ARE RELYING ON OUR NORMAL SCHEDULE. THAT NORMAL SCHEDULE SHOULD BE FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY. WE COULD TOTALLY LIMIT PRESENTATIONS. NO PROBLEM. WE CAN LIMIT, I DON'T BELIEVE ONE ITEM WAS TABLED TO THE SECOND. AM I RIGHT OR WRONG ABOUT THAT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> WE HAVE NO TABLED ITEMS. NO HOW MANY TIMES WE CARRYOVER? A TON. WE COULD DO NO PRESENTATIONS. OKAY? WE COULD SAY NO THERE'S NO ITEMS COMING TO BE TABLED. YOU CANNOT SAY THAT SOMETHING WON'T COME UP BETWEEN NOW AND THE SECOND WHERE YOUR BOXING YOURSELF IN HERE. ALLOW THE COURTS PRESIDING OFFICER AND THE COURT MANAGER TO DO OUR JOB AND TO BRING AN AGENDA THAT WE BELIEVE COULD BE TACKLED IN THE TIMEFRAME. IF IT DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECESS UNTIL THE NEXT DAY. OKAY? THAT IS HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE. TO GO TO THE NINTH AND GO OH, EVERYBODY ELSE CHANGE. I DON'T THINK SMART. I CAN TRY TO REARRANGE THINGS. THAT IS NOT DOING THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY. NOW YOU'RE ASKING US TO GO 3 WEEKS.
>> ,JUDGE, I DON'T KNOW IT COMMISSIONER CONSOLE IS COULD DO THIS. CAN WE DO IT TO WHERE IT'S, I HOLD WE CAN SET WHATEVER WE WANT TO SET AND YOU CAN GO BACK AND LOOK THAT UP AND PROVIDE THAT. WE COULD SET IT HOWEVER WE WANT. THE ONE SAINT 9 Ã12 IF HE COULD GO UNTIL 12.
>> I COULD DO NO RECOGNITIONS, NO PROCLAMATIONS OKAY, BECAUSE YOU STILL THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER HOOKS NO POPULATIONS, NO
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PRESENTATIONS. >> WE KNOW HOW TO DO IT BELIEVE IT OR NOT OF DONE A THOUSAND AGENDAS. I KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO DO IT BUT I DON'T LIKE IS FOR SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, HAPPENED THE OTHER DAY WE HAD HMG SITUATION. HE NEEDED TO GET ON THERE. THEY ARE UNFORGIVING AT THE STATE AND THE FEDS IF SOMETHING HAS TO BE CORRECTED OR DONE. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. WE COULD TOTALLY TIGHTEN IT UP AND LIMIT IT. I HAVE, I EMAILED HIM EARLIER TODAY.
I'VE 2 ITEMS I NEED TO PUT ON. THERE NOT WANT TO TAKE LONG EITHER ONE OF THEM. BUT THERE MY ITEMS AND I WANT TO GET THEM DONE FOR THE COUNTY. I THINK TRENTON SAID HE HAS ONE. I BELIEVE IT OR NOT I BELIEVE YOU HAVE ONE IN TOO. IF ONE COMES UP BETWEEN NOW AND IN THE NEXT 3 WEEKS.
>> DO WE HAVE TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT?
>> YES, YOU DO BY LAW. ALSO I CAN ASK THE AUDITOR TO HOLD ON ANY AUDIT. I CAN ASK HR TO HOLD ON ANY HR UNLESS SOMETHING MONUMENTAL HAPPENS. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE WE HAD TO RATIFY THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS. THAT WAS EVEN EXPECTED. PERSUADE THINGS THAT COME UP. DON'T BOX YOURSELF AND TO HELP THE PEOPLE
TO THEIR WORK. >> JUDGE UNWILLING TO AMEND THE SECOND TO 9 Ã12. IF WE LIMIT NO PRESENTATIONS.
>> NO RECOGNITIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO STATED ALL.
>> NO RESTROOM BREAKS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT NO RESTROOM
BREAKS, NO FOOD, NO WATER. >> OKAY SO WERE SAYING, THIS REMINDS ME OF THE GOONIES. ALL THE GARAGE HAS. NEXT NO PRESENTATIONS, RECOGNITIONS, NO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS.
>> UNLESS ACCOUNTING ATTORNEY DEEMS IT NEEDED.
>> KNOW WHATEVER'S. WHAT ELSE? I'M JUST TRY TO BE SPECIFIC.
>> THAT A LOT OF TIME. RECOGNITIONS COULD TAKE UP TO AN HOUR SOMETIMES LONGER BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON OUR BUSINESS.
THAT COULD HELP SHAVE OFF A LOT OF TIME. I THINK WERE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING, WE LET EVERYBODY
FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED. >> I WILL HAVE GENERAL INFORMATION REPORTS SENT BY TEXT OR EMAIL. AGAIN, ALLOW US TO OUR WORK. I WILL RECENTLY MY MOTION TO GO FROM 8: Ã12.
>> KNOW ALL THOSE THINGS. I WOULD AGREE WITHOUT ATTACKING IT. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO PROVIDE AN ADVISORY FOR THAT JENNY. I THINK THAT MOTION WAS EXTREMELY PROPER AND LEGAL. IF YOU COULD PLEASE PROVIDE THAT AS AN ADVISORY.
>> WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC QUESTION SO I CAN ANSWER IT?
>> COUNTY COURT BY ITS MOTION AND MAJORITY VOTE LIMIT THE CONTENTS OF A MEETING, CHANGE THE MEETING, PUT A TIMEFRAME ON THE MEETING. ALL THOSE THINGS THAT HE TRIED TO DO.
>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I AS AMENDED. ALL RIGHT, THAT GOES TO ADJOURNMENTS AND MEMORY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY? ALL
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