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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT THIS TIME AND ASK ALL OF YOU TO PLEASE RISE AS WE HAVE INVOCATION.

AND THEN YOU'LL STAND AFTER INVOCATION PLEASE TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO OUR TEXAS FLAGS. AND I UNDERSTAND WE OFTEN TRY TO HAVE A PASTOR INVITED THIS MORNING BUT TODAY WE WERE NOT ABLE TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION. I ALWAYS LIKE TO OFFER, YOU NEVER KNOW WE CAN ALL BE PASTORS IN OUR DAILY LIVERS.

BUT OUR FAVORITE RESIDENT PASTOR, NONFAFT IS COMMISSIONER JOHN MAREZ. COMMISSIONER WOULD YOU SAY

GRACE? >> DEAR GOD WE THANK YOU FOR TODAY. WE THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER DAY OF LIFE. WE THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS YOU GIVE TO OUR FAMILIES AN OUR COMMUNITIES.

WE PRAY FOR THIS COURT TODAY LORD, TO JUST TO EXERCISE DISCERNMENT LORD AND TO DO THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND TO WORK HARD, TO MEET THIS AGENDA THAT WE HAVE CAREFULLY PUT TOGETHER ALONG WITH OUR STAFF. WE PRAY FOR OUR COMMUNITY LORD AS WE STILL CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE WITH ILLNESS AND SO MANY OTHER ISSUES FACING OUR PEOPLE. AND SO WE JUST ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE, ASK FOR YOUR LOVE, ASK FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSING OF SERVING NUECES COUNTY.

PROMOTING OUR PEOPLE TO THE GREATEST COMMUNITYING OF ALL HERE IN NUECES. THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE HERE TODAY THANK YOU FOR THEIR STAFF AND ALL THEIR SERVICES AS WELL.

WE PRAY ALL OF THIS IN YOUR HOLY NAME, AMEN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG; I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

>> COMMISSIONER, THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL.

SEE I GAVE HIM NO WARNING AND NO NOTICE AND IT'S ABSOLUTE PERFECTION EVERY TIME. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AT THIS TIME, FOR THE CLERK, I'D LIKE TO NOTE THE TIME, IT'S 8:40 BUT KARA WE MAYBE STARTED THREE MINUTES AGO, 8:37.

AND OF COURSE WE ARE HERE IN NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSES, 901 NORTH LEOPARD, AND WE ARE HERE IN THE NUECES COUNTY COURTROOM.

COMMISSIONERS ARE ALL PRESENT, OF COURSE I'M HERE AS WELL AND AS THE PRESIDING OFFICER CAN I CERTIFY TO THE CLERK THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT. I DON'T KNOW IF I NOTED THE DATE KARA BUT IT'S OCTOBER THE 12TH.

I CAN'T BELIEVE IT. YOU JUST BLINK AND IT'S THE MIDDLE OF THE MONTH. AND AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS ON DISCLOSURES OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST OR APPEARANCE OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH ITEMS ON THIS AGENDA SHALL BE DECLARED AT THIS TIME. MEMBERS WITH CONFLICTS WILL RESPHRAIN FROM VOTING AND ARE ASKED TO FRAME FROM DISCUSSION ON SUCH ITEMS. CONFLICTS DISCOVERED LATER IN THE MEETING SHALL BE DISCLOSED AT THAT TIME.

ARE THERE ANY CONFLICTS WITH ITEMS ON THE AGENDA OR APPEARANCE OF CONFLICTS THAT NEED TO BE DISCLOSED AT THIS TIME? OKAY WE'LL MOVE TO THE SAFETY

[E. SAFETY BRIEFING]

BRIEFING. >> MY NAME IS REBECCA.

>> GOOD MORNING REBECCA. >> GOOD MORNING JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS AND ATTENDEES. OUR SAFETY BRIEFING FOR TODAY OCTOBER 12TH IS BEING HELD AT THE NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURTROOM. THE RESTROOMS ARE LOCATED ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE THIRD FLOOR ATRIUM, THERE IS A FIRE EXTINGUISHER LOCATED ON THE REAR OF THE COURTROOM AND ALSO FEW OF ADDITIONAL EXTINGUISHERS, IN THE EVENT OF A CARDIAC EMERGENCY, AN AED IS LOCATED ON THE RIGHT WALL NEXT TO THE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICES, PARTICIPANTS WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DIALING 911 WILL BE, EXCUSE ME I DON'T KNOW HER NAME.

WHAT'S YOUR NAME? >> OH I'M SORRY.

>> THANK YOU. IN THE EVENT --

>> YOU ARE NOW IN CHARGE OF 911. >> BY THE WAY.

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IN THE EVENT OF EVACUATION OUR EGRESS ROUTE WILL BE SLOWLY DOWN THE ATRIUM STAIRS PROCEEDING OUT THE DOORS LOCATED ON THE LA PAN STREET SIDE OF THE COURTHOUSE. IT IS IMPORTANT TO STAY TOGETHER. SHOULD THERE BE A NEED TO SHELTER IN PLACE, DEPENDING UPON THE SEVERITY OF THE SHELTER IN PLACE, THE COURTROOM DOUBLE DOORS WILL BE SECURED AND REMAIN SECURE UNTIL GIVEN FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE NUECES COUNTY SHERIFFS OFFICE OR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

AND WOULD I LIKE TO SAY THAT THE LOSS CONTROL COMMITTEE HAS HAD AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR MEETINGS, AND ANY DEPARTMENT THAT IS NOT PARTICIPATING PLEASE CONTACT RISK MANAGEMENT.

[F. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT GOOD BRIEFING.

WE'LL MOVE TO PLIBT. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING IN CASE YOU HAVE NOT BEEN WITH US BEFORE.

WE ASK YOU TO USE THE PODIUM IN THE BACK.

THERE WILL BE A DIGITAL DISPLAY OF A CLOCK TON SCREENLS AND IT'S THREE MINUTES. PLEASE BE THOUGHTFUL, ABOUT YOUR FELLOW RESIDENTS THAT HAVE WISHED ALSO TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. I WON'T CUT YOU OFF IF YOU ARE FINISHING A THOUGHT. BUT JUST BE KIND TO EVERYBODY AND WE'VE GOT A FEW PEOPLE ONLINE AS WELL.

I'LL CALL YOU IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP.

MR. JIM QUIZENBERRY. EVEN IF I CALL YOU FOR RECORD WOULD YOU PLEASE BE KIND ENOUGH TO ANNOUNCE YOUR NAME AGAIN AND

YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE MY NAME IS JIM QUIZENBERRY. I LIVE AT 203 OLEANDER AVENUE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT GOOD PRAYER JOHN MAREZ.

TRULY APPRECIATE IT. GOING TO WORK FROM MY PHONE TODAY, DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO WRITE THESE THINGS OUT.

I'M HERE AGAIN, YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER MY FACE FROM LAST TIME.

I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO VOTE NO TO THE NEW SINGLE PILING BOB HALL REPAIR DESIGN. THIS REPAIR IS NOT DESIGNED WITH THE LOCAL POPULATION IN LINE. THIS REPAIR DOESN'T SPEAK TO THE PEEK PEOPLE HERE. TRADITIONALLY, THE NEW PILING, NEW SINGLE PILING DESIGN WILL CAUSE A LOSS OF MARINE HABITAT ON A LARGE SCALE, IN ADDITION TO NOT PRODUCING WAIVES OF THE SAME STANDARD AS THE PREVIOUS REPAIR. THE QUESTION IS TRULY WHAT GOOD IS A REPAIR A FISHING REPAIR WITH NO FISH AND WHAT GOOD IS A REPAIR THAT PEOPLE SURF AT WITH NO SURFING? THE FAILURE OF THE PREVIOUS REPAIR WAS NOT DUE TO A HURRICANE PURELY, IT WAS DUE TO A FAILURE OF ACTION TO REMOVE THE BLOCKS AS THE REPAIR WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED AND ENGINEERED. I UNDERSTAND WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO REMOVE THOSE BLOCKS BECAUSE WE WERE BERMING UP ROADS, WHEN WE TALKED TO BOB HALL AT BRISCOE A WHILE BACK.

BUT THE FAILURE OF THAT DESIGN WAS NOT PURELY MOTHER NATURE.

IF WE HAD TAKEN THE BLOCKS OFF THE END IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE SURVIVED. THE EXTRA MILLIONS MUCH DOLLARS THAT IS BEING APPLIED TO A RESTAURANT THAT IS TWO STORIES.

TWO STORIES GOING TO BE IN ALL THE ELEMENTS AND IN THE PATH OF A HURRICANE WITH HURRICANE FORCE WINDS.

LET'S LOOK AT THE RESULTS IN FORTH MEYERS.

FORT MEYERS JUST GOT DEVASTATED BY HURRICANE.

DO YOU THINK A TWO STORY REPAIR THAT'S IN THE OCEAN IS GOING TO HOLD UP TO THOSE TYPES OF WINDS AND THAT TYPE OF FORCE? I WOULD HAVE TO SAY NO. THE SECOND THING IS, THAT RESTAURANT'S GOING TO BENEFIT ONE BUSINESS.

WHAT'S WRONG WITH PACKING YOUR LUNCH AND GOING TO THE BEACH LIKE WE ALWAYS HAVE? THIS IDEA TO ME IT'S PREPOSTEROUS. I WANT TO SHOW A PICTURE, I MENTIONED LAST TIME, THIS IS AN IMAGE FROM A SPECIAL DAY THAT ONLY HAPPENS TWO DAYS OUT OF THE YEAR.

I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO CAPTURE IT BUT NOBODY EVER WILL WHERE THE NEW REPAIR DESIGN. THE SUN IS IN THE VERY CENTER OF THE REPAIR, IT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN, NOBODY WILL EVER SEE THIS VIEW AGAIN WITH THIS NEW DESIGN. IT'S IN YOUR HANDS TODAY WHEN YOU VOTE. I ASK THAT YOU THINK OF YOU KNOW MAKE A CHOICE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE.

SURFERS, FISHERMEN, ET CETERA. SPENDING THIS KIND OF MONEY ON A DESIGN THAT TRULY ONLY BENEFITS OUT OF TOWN VISITORS THAT ARE COMING HERE. IT DOESN'T BENEFIT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. I ASK THAT YOU GIVE PEOPLE ANOTHER OPTION AND BRING FORTH A SECOND DESIGN, SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS THAT ACTUALLY BENEFITS SURFING, FISHING AND PREMENTS THOSE THINGS. WE'RE ASKING FOR A DESIGN OPTION THAT SPEAKS TO THE TRUE NATURE OF A FISHING AND SURFING REPAIR.

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ONE, YOU KNOW, ONE THAT SUPPORTS BLEEN LIFE AND FISH.

FINALLY, WE ALL HOLD TIGHT THE TRADITIONS AND HERITAGE ALL MUCH US DO, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US. I KNOW YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THIS.

SURFING AND FISHING AT BOB HALL PIER, THINK OF THE PEOPLE WHO VOTE FOR YOUAL AND GIVE US AN OPTION THAT ACTUALLY WORKS FOR

US. >> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

WE'LL MOVE THOUSAND TO -- AND SIT MR. GAMBLE, IS IT SPENCER?

WELCOME. >> THANKS, GOOD MORNING.

JOHN SPENCER GAMBLE. I LIVE AT 1013 STREET IN CORPUS CHRISTI. OVER THE PAST DECADE OR MORE I'VE PUT QUITE A BIT OF TIME IN THERE AND HAD SOME REALLY GOOD DAYS. IT MEANS A LOT TO ME, IT MEANS A LOT TO THE PEOPLE HERE. IT MEANS A LOT TO MY KIDS.

I THINK THAT THERE'S A WAY TO SATISFY DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE, DIFFERENT TYPES OF BELIEFS IN THIS PROCESS OF THE DOUBLE PYLON PROJECT. SO I THINK JUST THINK ABOUT WHO CAN BENEFIT FROM THIS NOW, NOT JUST THERE'S NOT JUST ONE WAY TO APPROACH THIS. AND THINK ABOUT YOUR KIDS AND THEIR KIDS IN THE FUTURE. BECAUSE I HAVE TWO BOYS, 6 AND 3 YEARS OLD. THEY'RE LEARNING HOW TO SURF RIGHT NOW AND I'D LOVE FOR THEM TO ENJOY THOSE EXPERIENCES AS WELL. ANOTHER THING WE NEED NOR SURFING SPOTS HERE. WE ARE RELEGATED SERVING PECKARY. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE WATER NOW, I DON'T KNOW FRANK 70, 80 PLUS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT SURFING AS JIM SAID, IT'S FISHING, IT'S TOURISM, IT IS LOCALS.

BUT THE IDEA OF HAVING MORE THAN ONE SPOT WHEN THE WAVES ARE GOOD WHICH RARELY HAPPENS, YOU WOULD LITERALLY BE SAVING LIVES.

I'VE BEEN HURT MYSELF. I'VE I'VE PULLED PEOPLE OUT OF THE WATER. EVERY TIME THERE'S SOME KIND OF WAVE WINDSTORM INCIDENT PEOPLE ARE GETTING HURT.

SO I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER, WOULD BE JUST SPREADING PEOPLE OUT. THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY, BOB

HALL PIER, ILLEGALITIES DO IT. >> THANK YOU.

I SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS IN MY HOUSEKEEPING BUT IF YOU SEE THIS VERY STILL UP HERE IN PUBLIC COMMENT WE DON'T ANSWER BACK.

BUT BECAUSE YOUR COMMENTS RELATE TO AN AGENDA ITEM WHEN WE GET TO THE AGENDA ITEM THERE IS A POTENTIAL THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE.

I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU BECAUSE IT ALWAYS FEELS AWKWARD THAT THERE'S NO COMMENTS UP HERE OTHER THAN BODY LANGUAGE. NEXT WE'LL HAVE MR. FRANK FLOYD AND THEN ALL THE FOLKS ONLINE, I SEE YOU, THANK YOU FOR PLACING YOUR ICONIC AND VIRTUAL HAND UP. I WILL CALLING ON YOU NEXT.

MR. FLOYD. WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU. FRANK FLOYD, 13522 CONVENE JOHANNA. I WAS UP HERE LAST TIME.

PROBABLY GETTING TIRED OF IT. BUT YOU ALREADY KNOW MY BELIEF ON THE PIER AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SURF AND FISH AND ALL SURFERS AROUND HERE FISH ALSO SO WE'RE INTERESTED IN THE WHOLE THING. ANOTHER THING IS THE BUDGET, THE COST AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE BUDGETS I WAS HEARING BEFORE.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING AND I MIGHT BE WRONG ON THIS BUT WAS THAT THE SINGLE PILING DESIGN HAS TO BE BUILT OFF OF BARGES.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF LUCK WITH BARGES OUT HERE ON THE SURF LATELY. THE ONE TAKEN DOWN BOB HALL BROKE LOOSE ONE TIME, GOT CAUGHT PRETTY QUICKLY.

WE SAW IT ON THE SAND BAR AND FLAT UP ON THE BEACH.

NOW JUST IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS WE'VE HAD TWO BARGES BREAK OUT OF PACKARY CHANNEL. THE ONE THAT'S CURRENTLY SUNK THERE AND JUST ABOUT TWO, THREE DAYS AGO, I GOT THE VIDEO IF SOMEONE NEEDS TO SEE IT. THEY WERE TRYING TO TAKE IT OUT,

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WE WATCHED IT DOING A 360 ON THE CHANNEL, WITH THE BOW UP ON THE SOUTH JETTY ON THE CHANNEL AFTER THE BOW HAD BEEN ON THE NORTH JETTY. THE GUYS IN THE TUG WERE LOOKING PRETTY FRANTIC. LUCKILY THEY GOT IT PULLED OFF, THEY DIDN'T TRY TO TAKE IT OUT. WE DON'T HAVE THE BIGGEST WAVES IN THE WORLD BUT WE HAVE VERY CLOSE-TOGETHER WAVES TRYING TO WORK OFF A BARGE IN THAT SHALLOW INNER PLACE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TO BUILD THAT PIER ESPECIALLY ON THE SINGLE PILINGS BECAUSE OF THE SPAN YOU ARE CAN'T DRIVE A CRANE OUT ON TOP OF SOMETHING HANGING OUT OVER THE WATER THAT FAR TO PUT THE NEXT SESSION IN, I THINK IT'S GOING TO COST A LOT MORE THAN YOU YOU MAY HAVE BEEN LED TO BELIEVE.

AND THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT OF TIME DELAYS.

YOU COULD SEE HOW MUCH SURFACE IT TAKES TO KNOCK THOSE BARGES LOOSE. I DO HAVE THE VIDEO.

IF SOMEBODY IS INTERESTED YOU CAN LET ME KNOW.

IT'S NOT IN THE CHANNEL, NOT DIRECTLY WHERE YOU WERE BUT IN THE PIER YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN THE SURF ZONE EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY DAY, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG CONCERN.

SO I'M THOUGHT SURE THE TIME LINE AND THE BUDGET IS GOING TO FIT WHAT PEOPLE MAY THINK. OTHER THAN THAT I KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SAY SO I'LL LEAVE A LOT TO THEM.

I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S CONCERN ON THIS AND THANKS FOR YOUR TIME

FOLKS. >> THANK YOU MR. FLOYD.

ONLINE I SEE JUST A FEW HANDS. AND I'LL TAKE THEM JUST THE ORDER THAT I SEE THEM. MR. CLIFF SWABACH AND JUST SO YOU'LL BE READY YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY MR. NATHAN FLOYD.

CLIFF YOU CAN UNMUTE. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. I'M CLIFF SWABACH, 122 WILEY DRIVE CORPUS CHRISTI TEXAS. REPRESENTING THE TEXAS SURFING COMMUNITY AND THE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED OUR PETITION.

OPPOSING THE SINGLE PILING DESIGN AND SUPPORTING THE TWO PILING DESIGN. THE MAIN REASON FOR OPPOSING THE SINGLE PILING DESIGN IS THE TEXAS CIRCLE COMMUNITY HAS NO DOUBT THAT THE SINGLE PILING DESIGN WOULD TOTALLY DESTROY ONE OF THE BEST SURFING RESOURCES ON THE TEXAS GULF COAST.

AND ALONG WITH IT, 60 YEARS OF SURFING HISTORY AT BOB HALL PIER CAN BE LOST. SURFING STARTED AT THE PIER SINCE 1962 AND SINCE THEN IT'S HAD A RICH SURFING HISTORY, A HISTORY WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE. ANOTHER BIG REASON IS, THE SINGLE PILING DESIGN'S AN UNPROVEN DESIGN THAT DOESN'T EXIST ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD IN AN OCEAN SETTING.

WHEN WE DO WE REALLY WANT TO GAMBLE $28 MILLION OF TAXPAYERS MONEY TRYING TO BE THE FIRST TO TEST OUT AN UNPROVEN DESIGN? I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT WOULDN'T BE A WISE DECISION.

ALSO THE GULF OF MEXICO IS CONSIDERED ONE OF THE SALTIEST BODIES OF WATER IN THE WORLD AND YET THE SINGLE PILING DESIGN FOR BOB HALL PIER WAS DESIGNED TO BE BUILT WITH STEEL PILINGS.

THAT SHOULD RAISE A HOOURNLG RED FLAG.

THE SINGLE FILING DESIGN DENICE COMMON SENSE AND IS THE WRONG DESIGN FOR THE AREA. IT'S TIME TO BUILD A PIER THAT BENEFITS EVERYONE. BE SURE TO RESTORE ONE OF THE BEST WAVES ON THE TEXAS COAST. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. IF I COULD JUST HAVE THE CLOCK MOVE OFF MY -- THERE WE GO. THANK YOU.

AND I SHOULD HAVE ALSO OFFERED, WE ALWAYS WELCOME YOU AT THIS TIME, BUT AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO HOLD YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS TO THE TIME WE DO THE AGENDA ITEM JUST LET ME KNOW AND I'LL CALL UPON YOU AT THAT LATER TIME. OKAY.

AND I DO INTEND TO ADVANCE THIS ITEM SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE AFTERNOON. DIANA IS IT LAVA?

>> YES, HI. ADRIADRIANA LAVA, I'M ALSO IN SUPPORT OF THE TWO MIELG PIER. PARKS AND WILDLIFE HAS BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME PUPPETTING IN ARTIFICIAL REEFS, THE OLDS BOB HALL PIER WAS JUST USED TO CREATE HABITAT FOR FISHERIES. ONE OF OUR BIGGEST INDUSTRIES THAT WE TOOT OUR HORNS HOW GOOD THE INDUSTRY IS HERE.

TWO PILING DESIGN WOULD CREATE THAT, CREATES HABITAT FOR THE FISH. ALSO, A LOT OF BUSINESSES THEY USE SURFING, THEY TAKE A LOT OF SURFING PHOTOS AND THEY ADVERTISE OH COME TO C CORPUS, TEXAS A&M UNIVERSITY USES

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SURFING TO ADVERTISE FOR STUDENTS AND TRY TO BRING IN THAT DIVERSITY OF PEOPLE FROM ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY.

I FEEL LIKE IF WE LOSE THIS ONE BREAK WE ARE GOING TO SLOWLY DETERIORATE THAT SURF COMMUNITY THAT IS REALLY UNIQUE IN TEXAS.

SOMETHING THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. YOU GO OUT TO THE BEACH MAN AND YOU SEE LIKE A SURF BOARD WITH COWBOY BOOTS AND HORSE AND KITE SURFING. IT IS SOMETHING WE DON'T SEE ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE UNITED STATES.

OUR BEACHES ARE AMAZING. WE HAVE EXPANSE AREAS, THAT WOULD BE REALLY HARD TO LOSE THAT UPRIGHT.

ANOTHER THING, CHECK MY NOTES. WELL AND JUST THE IDEA, JUST WHAT THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS PIER, THIS DESIGN HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN. ALR.WE ALREADY HAVE A PROBLEM WH HARBOR BRIDGE, WHY ARE WE TRYING TO DO AN EXPERIMENTAL PIER WITH A ROT OF MONEY? IT WOULD SATISFY A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE IF WE CONTINUE TO USE THE TWO-PIER PILING.

SO PLEASE VOTE FOR THE TWO-PIER PILING.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MS. LAVA.

I'LL NOW CALL UPON NATHAN FLOYD AND THEN WILL STOREBECK YOU'LL

BE NEXT. >> GOOD MORNING, CAN YOU HEAR

ME? >> YES, GOOD MORNING MR. FLOYD.

>> GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING US AGAIN.

I'M NATHAN FLOYD AT 14241 PLAYA DEL REY.

GREW.ON PADRE ISLAND AND HAVE CALLED THIS AREA HOME FOR 25 YEARS. 20 YEARS HAVE BEEN SURFING THE WATERS OFF OF BOB HALL AND LOCAL SURROUNDING BEACHES UP AND DOWN THE COAST. I'VE A LOTS OF TRAVELING AND CHASING STORMS AND ONE THING THAT'S ALWAYS TRAIMED SAME.

BOB HALL PIER HAS BEEN THE MOST CONSISTENT CHALLENGING WAVE ON OUR COASTLINE. TAKING THE SCOPE FURTHER OUT OF TEXAS I TRAVELED TO MEXICO FOR AN INTERNATIONAL LONG BOWRD EVENT THIS YEAR. WHEN HE LEARNED I WAS FROM TEXAS HE ASKED WHAT PART. WHEN MENTIONING CORPUS CHRISTI, BOB HALL PIER, HE SAID I KNOW THAT PLACE I SURFED THERE NUMEROUS TIMES. TRANSCENDS THE TEXAS SURFING WORLD. IT REALLY HAS HELPED SET A STAGE FOR TEXAS SURFING RECOGNITION. IT'S BEEN IN MULTIPLE DOCUMENTARIES, INTERNATIONAL SURF MAGAZINES.

LIVERS IN THE MINDS OF TENS OF THOUSANDS OF LOAM SURFERS AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF BEACH GOERS AND PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER.

OUR FRIEND RUNS THE TEXAS SURF CAMPS AND THEY'VE BEEN RUNNING A SURF CAMP FOR LAST TEN YEARS THAT HELPS GET YOUTH INTERESTED IN SURFING AND BECAUSE OF THAT CAMP WE HAVE SEEN A HUGE GROWTH IN THE INTEREST IN SURFING AND THE SURFING POPULATION AND THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO THE PIER, SPENDING MONEY AT MICHAEL MAY'S SURFING THERE THERE'S A LOT TO IT.

PLEASE CONSIDER THE TWO PILING DESIGN OVER THE CURRENTLY PROPOSED SINGLE DESIGN. WE'VE ALREADY ALL HEARD OUR POINTS ON WHY WE DON'T THINK THE ONE PILING IS GOING TO PROVIDE WAVES, BE STRONG AGAINST HURRICANE WAVES, SIDE SHORE CURRENT SHEERING, THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT THANK JUST SURFING.

THERE'S FISHING. THERE'S ALL SORTS OF STUFF AND PEOPLE TO CONSIDER. SO PLEASE CONSIDER THE TWO PILING DESIGN WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST GLOBALLY UTILIZED DESIGNS FOR OCEAN GOING PIERCE, SOPIERSFOR EVERYONE.

LET'S HELP MAINTAIN TEXAS SURFING HISTORY LIKE BOB MENTIONED, BOB HALL IS FAME OS IN THE SURFING WORLD, PLEASE CONSIDER THE TWO PILING DESIGN, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SIR, WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MR. WILL STOREBECK.

>> HELLO CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES.

>> HI THERE MY NAME IS WILL STOREBECK AT 426 INDIANA AVENUE.

I WANTED TO VOICE MY SUPPORT AND E-IN FAVOR OF A TWO PILING SYSTEM AND OPPOSE A SINGLE PILING SYSTEM AS WE'VE ALL HEARD. ONE OF MY EARLIEST MEMORIES IS GOING TO A BOB HALL REPAIR. I GREW UP ON A BOARD, SURF CONTEST I WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD AT BOB HALL PIER AND GROWING UP THE SPOT WAS ALWAYS BOB HALL PIER, AS THESE GENTLEMEN HAVE ALL

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MENTIONED, INTERNATIONALLY LOCALLY BOB HALL PIER HAS ALWAYS BEEN A SPOT NOT ONLY IN OUR HEARTS BUT FOR REVENUE FOR TOURISM DUE TO FISHING, SURFING AND JUST A NICE PLACE TO LANGUAGE OUT. AND THE CURRENT SINGLE PILING DESIGN IS SOMETHING THAT ISN'T TRIED AND TRUE.

THERE ARE ALREADY MANY DESIGNS FOR DUAL PILING SYSTEM THAT ARE ALREADY IN PROCESS, ALREADY WORKING THAT WE CAN GO OFF OF THAT WE KNOW WILL BE NOT ONLY SAFER, FOR STRUCTURE, BUT WILL ALSO BE SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN TRIED AND TRUE THAT WE KNOW WILL BENEFIT OUR CITIZENS AND THEIR TAX DOLLARS WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US WHETHER YOU'RE A SURFER OR NOT.

WE ALL HATE TAXES. SECONDLY BOB HALL PIER WILL ALSO JUST PROMOTE BETTER FISHING. NOT ALL OF US ARE SURFERS.

BUT THERE'S I'M SURE THERE'S COMMENTS IN THE PAST THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BUT THE WAY THAT THE SAND BAR PILES IT WILL BE BETTER FOR FISHING AS WELL. AND PROMOTING A DOUBLE -- OR TWO-STORY SYSTEM ON BOB HALL PIER WILL MAKE IT MORE SWENL TO WIND DAMAGE AS WELL AND THIS WHOLE PILING SYSTEM HAS LASTED FOREVER. AND THE ONLY REASON IT WAS NOT -- IT DOES NOT LAST ANYMORE IS BECAUSE THE BOX WERE MOVED DURING THE HURRICANE. AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT IS IN THE PAST. BUT WE CAN REBUILD THE WAY THAT THE PIER ALREADY WAS AND EVERYONE CAN BE SATISFIED.

AND IN MY OPINION WE CAN SAVE MORE MONEY DOING SO WHICH WILL NOT ONLY BENEFIT THE SURFERS BUT WILL BENEFIT THE TAXPAYERS AND IT WILL BE A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE THE SURF COMMUNITY, THE FISHERMEN COMMUNITY AND THE TOURISM WILL BE IN THE GOOD PLACE. ALSO ON THE WAY OF SAFETY, IF YOU HAVE BEEN ON THE CHANNEL ON A BIG WAVE DAY, THE WAVES ARE TREACHEROUS AND ONLY BREAKING IN A SMALL SPOT MAKING IT MORE UNSAFE NOT ONLY FOR FISHERMEN BEING SO CLOSE TO THE WAVES BUT FOR SURFERS BEING SO CLOSE TO THE JETTY.

IF BOB HALL PIER IS RESCUED AS WE WANT THEN THERE WOULD BE MORE SURF ALL THE WAY DOWN THE BEACH, FOR EXAMPLE, PORT ORANZUS, NOT BE CROWDED IN ONE DANGEROUS SPOT.

WE'RE REALLY BEGGING AT THIS POINT, ALL OF US AND THOSE WHO SIGNED THE PETITION, ON FACEBOOK AND ALL OVER THE WORLD WANT TO VOTE NO TO THE SINGLE PILING SYSTEM AND PLACE OUR SUPPORT IN FAVOR OF THE TWO PIER SYSTEM. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. WE'LL THOUSAND MOVE TO RAY MADRIGAL. SORRY I DIDN'T GIVE YOU ADVANCE NOTICE. THE NEXT PERSON IS THE INITIAL D

MCALLEN. >> GOOD MORNING JUDGE, GOOD

MORNING COMMISSIONERS. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> MY AREA OF CONCERN IS WE HAVE SPENT THE LAST MONTH AND A HALF AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, A&M, ENCOURAGING YOUNG PEOPLE TO VOTE REGISTERING YOUNG PEOPLE TO VOTE.

AND THEIR MAIN CONCERN IS THE LOCATION WHERE THESE VOTING BOOTHS ARE PLACED. AFTER TALKING TO MULTIPLE PEOPLE AND MULTIPLE ORGANIZATIONS, THEY VOICED THEIR CONCERN OVER THESE LOCATIONS WHERE THEY ARE BASICALLY SECURE.

WHEN I ASKED MORE AND I DID SOME LOGISTICS, THESE VOTING BOOTHS ARE PLACED IN THE FURTHEST FROM THE DORMS TO THE FURTHEST, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE UNIVERSITY WHERE THESE KIDS ARE NOT AWARE OF WHERE THESE VOTING LOCATIONS ARE.

THEY ARE IN SUPPORT OF HAVING THESE VOTING IS LOCATIONS MOVED TO WHAT WE CALM THE U.C, THE UNIVERSITY CENTER WHERE EVERYBODY CONGREGATES THERE. THEIR SECOND MAJOR CONCERN IS THEY WANT TO HAVE THE ABILITY FOR EARLY VOTING, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO EARLY-VOTE, AND HONESTLY I AM NOT SURE WHETHER THEY ARE AVAILABLE, I MEAN THOSS AVAILABLE TO THEM.

BUT THAT'S THEIR AREA OF CONCERN.

NOW THIRDLY JUDGE, WHAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION WAS THAT SOME OF THESE STUDENTS IF OUT OF STATE CONTACTED THE ELECTIONS

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OFFICE IN CORPUS CHRISTI, NUECES COUNTY AND THEY WERE WANTING TO FIND OUT HOW TO REGISTER OR TO BE ABLE TO VOTE.

AROUND THEY WERE TOLD THAT THE ONLY WAY THEY COULD VOTE WAS IF THEY HAD A DRIVER'S LICENSE WITH A CORPUS CHRISTI ADDRESS.

AND THAT IS BLATANTLY UNTRUE. AROUND I THINK IT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. I CALLED THE NUECES COUNTY REGISTRAR'S OFFICE BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT'S WHO THEY MAY HAVE CALLED. AND I ADDRESSED IT TO THE PEOPLE THERE. AND THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY SAID NO, WE DON'T -- YOU KNOW WE WOULD NEVER TELL ANYONE FROM OUT OF STATE THAT'S A STUDENT, IN TEXAS A&M THAT THEY COULD NOT VOTE OR THAT THEY WOULD NEED A TEXAS DRIVER'S LICENSE TO VOTE.

IS WHEN I CONTACTED THE STUDENTS THEY SAID NO, IT WAS THE ELECTIONS OFFICE. AND I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO CONTACT THE ELECTIONS OFFICE. AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THE LAST DAY TO REGISTER TO VOTE WAS YESTERDAY.

SO I MEAN IT'S -- YOU KNOW BEATING A DEAD HORSE.

BUT IF SOMEONE AT THAT OFFICE IS TELLING STUDENTS FROM OUT OF STATE THAT THEY CANNOT VOTE UNLESS THEY HAVE A TEXAS DRIVER'S LICENSE THAT IS BLATANTLY UNTRUE AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. BUT WE NEED TO GET THESE STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, A CONVENIENT PLACE TO VOTE.

AND THAT WOULD BE YOU KNOW THE UNIVERSITY CENTER.

I'VE SPOKEN TO A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE THAT ARE UNDERTAKING A MASS VOTER REGISTRATIONS DRIVE.

AND EVERY PERSON WITHIN THOSE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE SAID, HEY LOOK WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THESE PLACES ARE AND WHEN WE DO FIND OUT THEY'RE AT THE FURTHEST POINT FROM THE DORMS.

>> YES. >> I DON'T KNOW --

>> THANK YOU, I'M SORRY I HAVE TO STOP YOU ONLY BECAUSE OUR TIME IS UP. BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOUR

COMMENTS. >> OH THANK YOU YOUR HONOR AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR HAVING LISTENED TO THIS.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO MR.-- IT'S JUST THE INITIAL Z, IS IT MCCLEL ANN? MCCLELLAN?

>> YES. FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO TUX UPON THE CULTURAL IMPACT. EVERYONE THAT TALKS ABOUT TEXAS SURFING TALKS ABOUT BOB HALL PIER.

PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE COAST FROM GAL VEST TONL TO SOUTH PADRE, PEOPLE LAND LOCKED NORTH WHEN THEY COME DOWN THEY THINK OF BOB HALL PIER THAT'S IT. SERKLY I CONSULTED WITH RALPH CLARK. HE WROTE FISHING PIER DESIGN GUIDANCE IN 2011 AND HE WORKS FOR THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, FOR 37 YEARS HE'S BEEN DESIGNING PIERCE, NOT A SINGLE ONE OF HIS DESIGNS AND A MULTITUDE OF CONSTRUCTIONS LAST BEEN A SINGLE PILING DESIGN.

SO I MEAN HE'S DESIGNED PIERCE ON THE GULF AND THE ATLANTIC SIDE FOR FLORIDA AND HE'S BEEN WORKING WITH A&M ENGINEERS AND VARIOUS TEXAS ENGINEERS AS WELL. AND NOT A SINGLE DESIGN THAT HE'S DONE HAS BEEN A SINGLE PILING DESIGN.

WE CAN GET INTO THE WEEDS IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO THE EROSION AND WIND SHEER AND ALL THAT BUT BASICALLY A TWO PILING DESIGN IS GOING TO BE STRONGER AND MUCH BETTER CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE OR THE WAVES, FISHING AND TOURISM. BECAUSE IF PEOPLE DRIVE DOWN FROM SAN ANTONIO AND SEE THAT THE FISHING IS NOT THE SAME IT WAS, THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO PORT ARANZES, NUECES COUNTY NOT ALL PIER, THAT'S ALL. I HOPE YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE TWO PILING DESIGN. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SIR. MR. ALLEN GODSEY AND FOLLOWING ALLEN WE'LL HAVE TOMMY SCHULTZ AND OUR LAST SPEAKER WILL BE ALBERTO SALTUCCI. MR. GODSEY.

>> GOOD MORNING. FIRST OF ALL I'D LIKE TO WISH A LOT OF LOVE AND ALOHA TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US.

I'M HERE FOR THE DUAL PILING STRUCTURE.

I'M FOR THE DUAL OVER THE SINGLE.

MANY, MANY REASONS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN SAID AND MANY REASONS ALREADY DONE. I'M WILLING TO STEP ON THE PASSION AND ARTWORK AND ENGINEERING OF THE SINGLE.

PLEASE CONVEY THE UTILITY OF THE DUAL.

I'M FOR THE DUAL. AND I MEAN LEGACIES ARE MADE,

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THESE THINGS ARE MADE FOR DECADES, MAN THEY FINALLY HEARD US OUT AND GOT THAT GOOD DUAL. AND ANYWAY YOU GO, I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS, YOU'RE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB.

I'M 518 MEDITERRANEAN, REPRESENTING THE 7418, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, LOVE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

MR. TOMMY SCHULTZ. GIVE HIM JUST A MOMENT TO UNMUTE. TOMMY SCHULTZ.

>> THANK YOU, SORRY ABOUT THE MUTING, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

>> YES I'VE GOT YOU NOW. >> HELLO AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY. MY NAME IS TOMMY SCHULTZ, I LIVE AT 430 KNICKERBOCKER IN CORPUS CHRISTI.

AND I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN COMING TO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE SINGLE PILING PIER DESIGN.

AND IN THE COURSE OF THAT I THINK WE'VE HEARD JUST A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH A TON OF EXPERIENCE AND EDUCATION STATING THAT THEY JUST REALLY FEEL LIKE THE SINGLE PILING PIER IS THE BAD CHOICE FOR CORMTS FOR A BUNCH OF REASONS.

ONE OF THE REASONS IS BECAUSE IT'S A SURF DESTINATION.

I ALSO AM A TRAVEL SURFER AND JUDGE FOR THE TEXAS GULF SURFING ASSOCIATION. AND I HEAR BOB HALL AND CORPUS MENTIONED ALL OVER. PUERTO RICO, MEXICO BY PEOPLE AS TAR AWAY AS NEW ZEALAND. IT'S REALLY KIND OF A THING.

WE REALIZE THAT PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT AREN'T AWARE OF HOW IMPORTANT BOB HALL AND SURFING ARE.

BUT THE CONCERNS ARE MANY FROM KILLING THE WAVE AT BOB HALL TO A LACK TO A LOSS MUCH FISH HABITAT, DANGEROUS CONDITIONS WHEN SURFERS AREN'T IN THE WATER TO DO RESCUES AND JUST THE STRUCTURAL STABILITY OF IT ALL. WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS LETTING US SPEAK. WE REALLY FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST REALLY NOT REPRESENTATIONAL OF THE TOTAL CONSTITUENCY OF THIS AREA. IT SEEMS LIKE THE PIER IS JUST BEING DESIGNED FOR JUST RESTAURANTS AND FISHERMEN.

WE WANT TO BE INCLUDED. I THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK

TODAY, I APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

FINALLY WE'LL HEAR FROM ALBERTO SALTUCCI, HOPE I'M SAYING THAT

CORRECTLY. >> LOOKS LIKE IT PAUSED OUT.

>> THERE YOU GO. ALBERTO WE SEE YOU NOW FM.

>> I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS LETTING ME SPEAK.

WE REALLY FEEL LIKE REALLY NOT (INAUDIBLE).

>> LET'S SEE IF WE CAN FIX YOUR AUDIO, JUST GIVE US A MOMENT HERE. ARE YOU MAYBE ON MULTIPLE

DEVICES? >> RESTAURANTS AND FISHERMEN --

>> OH I KNOW WHAT IT IS, IT IS A DELAY.

ALBERTO JUST GIVE IT A SECOND. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> YES, GOOD MORNING JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS EVERYONE ELSE WHO HAS ATTENDED THE MEETING. MY NAME IS ALBERT SAMENTUCCI, I'VE BEEN A LONG TIME BOB HALL PIER FISHERMAN AROUND I'M FOR THE TWO PYLON DESIGN OVER THE SINGLE PYLON DESIGN.

THE REASON BECAUSE HAS ALREADY BEEN STATED MANY IT DOES CREATE MORE HAB FROM THE FOR FISHING. BOB HALL IS WORLD RENOWN FOR FISHING. IF YOU TAKE THAT AWAY IT MEANS OUR ABILITY TO CASH BAIT NEAR THE PIER.

MANY YEARS YOU COULDN'T TAKE A CAST NET, HAD YOU TO USE BAIT RODS TO CATCH BAIT. IF YOU TAKE THOSE PYLONS AWAY THEY ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

AS I SAID I'VE BEEN THERE FOUR, FIVE DAYS AT A TIME TALKING TO PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE WORLD COMING IN TO SEE THE FISH GET CAUGHT. IF WE HAVE HARDER TROUBLE CATCHING BAIT THAT'S ALL WE USE TO CATCH THE BIGGER FISH.

EVERYBODY COMES OUT THERE TO SEE THE MONSTER CASHES AND SO FORTH.

AGAIN GUYS WE ARE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

AGAIN PLEASE VOTE FOR THE DOUBLE PYLON MAINLY BECAUSE AS I SAID THE FISHING. I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT ARE SURFERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T ALWAYS SEE EYE TO EYE BECAUSE I PAY TO BE ON THE PIER, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO CAST WHERE I WANT TO CAST BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE FISH ARE AT. I'M GOING TO CAST INTO THOSE WAVES AND INTO THAT CURRENT WHERE THE FISH ARE HIDING.

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AND IF YOU CAN'T DO THAT THEN IT REALLY BLOCKS US ON BEING ABLE TO FISH. AND I WOULD REALLY HIGHLY RECOMMEND INSTEAD OF DOING THAT DOUBLE PIER THING, SPEND THE MONEY YOU WANT TO SPEND TO MAKE A WHOLE NEW AREA TO HAVE PYLONS SET UP SPECIFICALLY FOR SURFERS. THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING YOU KNOW. WE ARE OUT THERE FISHING WITH A LOT OF LOOKS, A LOT OF WEIGHTS AND IT IS VERY DANGEROUS FOR SURFERS TO BE NEAR THE PIERCE. TO ENCOURAGE THAT I THINK IT'S A REAL BAD THING. AND FOR US, LIKE I SAID, I RESPECT SURFERS, I HAVE -- THEY'RE IN MY FAMILY.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE PAY TO BE ON THE PIERS, OUR MONEYS ARE TWICE AS MUCH AS ANY SURFER TO BE THERE.

ONE WE PAY FOR THE PIER, WE'RE THERE FOR NUMEROUS DAYS AT A TIME AND WE LIVE HERE LOCALLY. THE GUYS THAT COME IN SPEND A CRAZY AMOUNT OF MONEY COME IN AND FISH THE PIER TO BE RUNNING INTO SURFERS AND STUFF AND I'VE SEEN WHERE SURFERS HAVE RUN FISHERMEN OFF THE PIER BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY OWN THE WATER.

I'M SORRY GUYS YOU DON'T TOAN WATER, WE DON'T EITHER BUT WE PAY TO BE UP ON THE PIER TO FISH THAT AREA.

OUR MONEY COUNTS AS MUCH AS ANYBODY ELSE'S AND FOR US A TWO PIER DESIGN IS GOING TO MAKE THAT PIER LAST LONGER AND EVERYBODY ELSE IT IS GOING TO SAVE MONEY IN THE LONG RUN.

VOTE FOR THE TWO PIER DESIGN GUYS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE ABOUT IT. THAT AND WE CAN FIND A WAY TO MAKE THESE MEETINGS MORE PUBLIC FOR EVERYBODY ELSE BECAUSE I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS MEETING LAST NIGHT AT 9:00 AND I WAS LUCKILY TO BE ABLE TO GET MY NAME CALLED FOR THIS MEETING.

SO AGAIN GUYS THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY AND I AM SHARING THIS TO MY CHANNEL AS WELL WITH 20,000 SUBSCRIBERS SO THAT WAY WE CAN GET MORE FISHERMEN INVOLVED, RIGHT NOW IT'S SET UP TO BE BOARDWALK NOT A FISHING PIER, EVERYBODY KEEPS SAYING THAT BUT THE DESIGNS NEVER SHOW A FISHERMAN ON THE PIER FISHING.

I DON'T SEE IT. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

OKAY THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AT THIS TIME.

AND JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE --

>> I SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> SURE OR YOU COULD ADDRESS IT AT THE VOTING TIME.

>> WELL, SINCE WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE AND WE'RE ON LINE, TAMU DOES HAVE AN EARLY VOTING. THAT IS ONE.

ALSO THE LOCATIONS WE ASKED IF WE COULD USE A LOCATION AND IT IS TO THE LOCATION TO DECIDE WHERE TO PUT US.

SO JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR.

>> RIGHT. I JUST --

>> THANK YOU. >> YES YES.

>> IN MY OFFICE WE ARE NOT VOTER REGISTRATION SO WE DON'T ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. SO 8880404, VOTER REGISTRATION.

>> WE'LL GO OVER THAT WHEN WE GET TO THAT, WE'LL HAVE YOU REEMPHASIZE IT AGAIN. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENT UNLESS THERE IS AN AGENDA ITEM SO I'M KIND OF GIVING A BROAD BRUSH HERE AND WE'LL RECERTIFIES THAT ABOUT TEXAS A&M WHEN WE GET TO THAT VOTING CENTER.

>> WHEN WE GET TO PLIBT I'LL SIGN MYSELF UP, THANK YOU.

>> AT THIS TIME WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO, DEPUTY IS DO OUR RESOLUTIONS, PROCLAMATIONS AND ORDERS.

AND WE'VE GOT FOUR OF THEM THIS MORNING.

THEY'RE ALL FANTASTIC AND THEN FOR ALL OF YOU ONLINE, THAT HAVE MADE PUBLIC COMMENT, REGARDING THE BOB HALL PIER PLEASE KNOW THAT IT IS MY INTENTION TO ADVANCE THE ITEM SO THAT YOUR COMMENTS CAN BE ADDRESSED BY BOTH PRESENTATION AND PERHAPS THE DAIS ITSELF. WE'LL ASK FOR YOUR PATIENCE BECAUSE WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR THESE FIRST FOUR

[1. In recognition of October 2, 2022 - October 8, 2022 as National 4-H Week.]

ITEMS INSIDE RESOLUTIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS.

WE'LL START OF ITEM GHVMENT-1 IN RECOGNITION OF OCTOBER 2ND, 2022 THROUGH OCTOBER 8TH, 2022 AS NATIONAL 4H WEEK AND OF COURSE THAT WAS LAST WEEK. BUT NEVERTHELESS, WE HAVE THE GREEN JACKETS IN THE ROOM ENDORSE FROM OUR 4H PROGRAM FROM THROUGHOUT NUECES COUNTY. THEIR LEADERSHIP AND ADVISORS AND MENTORS. I WOULD DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO MS. HELENA WHO WILL BE READING THE DECLARATION.

>> TEXAS A&M AGRILIFE EXTENSION SERVICE FOR 115 YEARS OF PROVIDING EXPERIENCE BASED EDUCATION TO YOUNGSTERS THROUGHOUT THE LONE STAR STATE AND WHEREAS THIS ADMIRAL PROGRAM WHICH SEEKS TO PROVIDE A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR THE WHOLE HEART INCLUDING HEAD HEART HANDS AND HEALTH HELPS 81 TEXANS

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TO DEVELOP KNOWLEDGE, LIFE SKILLS, ATTITUDES TO ENABLE THEM, TO BE CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY AND WHEREAS IT IS MORE THAN 550,000 URBAN, SUBURBAN AND RURAL YOUTH PARTICIPANTS RANGE BEING IN AGE IN 8 TO 19 HAIL FROM DIVERSE ETHNIC AND SOCIOECONOMIC BACKGROUNDS AND INSTRUMENTAL REPRESENT A CROSS SECTION OF THE STATE AND WHEREAS THE PROGRAM UNDOUBTEDLY COULD NOT HAVE ACHIEVED THE SUCCESS THAT IT HAS TODAY WERE IT NOT FOR THE SERVICE OF ITS MORE THAN 22,000 VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVEN GIVEN GENEROUSLY OF THEIR TIME TALENTS ENERGIES AND RESOURCE HE TO THE YOUTH OF TEXAS AND WHEREAS, THROUGHOUT ITS PROUD HISTORY THE 4H PROGRAM HAS DEVELOPED POSITIVE ROLE MODELS FOR COUNTLESS TEXANS AND THROUGH ITS INNOVATIVE AND INSPIRING PROGRAMS CONTINUES THE BUILD CHARACTER AND TO INSTILL THE VALUES THAT HAVE MADE OUR STATE STRONG AND GREAT. NOW THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE COMMISSIONER ESCORT OF NUECES COUNTY DOES HEREBY FORMALLY RECOGNIZE OCTOBER 2ND THROUGH 8TH 20, AS FOUR H WEEK OF 2022 AND COMMENDS THE 4H YOUTH DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM OF THE TEXAS A&M AGRILIFE EXTENSION SERVICE AND THE MANY MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE MADE THE PROGRAM A SUCCESS.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, LAGUNA WELCOME.

INTRODUCE US TO YOU YOUR AS I SAY THE GREATEST 4H TEAM IN

TEXAS. >> YES, MA'AM.

WE CAN START OVER HERE. ALL THE WAY ON THE END WE HAVE JOSH FORE, HE IS A MEMBER OF THE RUNNING JM, CORRECT? OR TEXAS ROAD RUNNERS, THERE ARE SO MANY OF THEM.

>> I KNOW. >> NEXT TO HIM IS BESS FORE, JOSH'S SISTER. CJ HOOD IS A MIC OF THE ARCHERY CLUB AND MS. CHLOE ATWATER IS A MEMBER OF THE AMPARY CLUB AND OUR COUNTY COUNCIL PRESIDENT THIS YEAR.

MOVING OVER TO THIS OTHER SIDE, ROBERT MAY IS A MEMBER OF BAYSIDE 4H CLUB. MS. RYLAND FREDERICK IS I CAN'T REMEMBER YOUR CLUB EXACTLY. FLOWER OF PADRE ISLAND.

MS. HANNAH WRIGHT IS A MEMBER OF THE TRAVELING 4H AND WEST OSO.

MS. KAYLIN HUFF IS A MEMBER OF THE TRAB AND SHEET 4H AND BLENDER AND ARCHERY CLUB AS WELL.

JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS I WANT TO THANK Y'ALL FOR ALL THE SUPPORT THAT Y'ALL HAVE GIVEN US THROUGHOUT THIS PAST YEAR AND HOPEFULLY THIS COMING YEAR AS WELL AND THE SUPPORT Y'ALL HAVE SHOWN ME IN MY FIRST YEAR OF BEING AGENT AND I WANT TO THANK Y'ALL TREMENDOUSLY AND I KNOW THAT EACH ONE OF THESE KIDS WANT TO THANK Y'ALL FOR EVERYTHING Y'ALL DO AND APPRECIATE YOUR

SUPPORT. >> LET ME HAVE A MOTION PLEASE

FOR RECOGNITION AND A SECOND. >> SECOND.

>> ANY DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD WOULD

BE APPROPRIATE TILT. AT THIS TI. >> I WANT TO SAY THEY DO SUCH GOOD WORK THAT I'M VERY PROUD THAT MY, WHILE HE WAS MY YOUNGER SON RODNEY, HE WENT THROUGH FLYING J 4H.

I GUESS MS. PULLEN WAS IN CHARGE OF THAT.

AND HE SHOWED A GREAT CHARACTER, BEING IN 4H.

HE SHOWED HORSES. DID WELL.

AND SO I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING THROUGH A GREAT PROGRAM AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE ROLE MODELS FOR THE REST OF THE KIDS.

THANK Y'ALL FOR WHAT YOU DO. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, WELL SAID AND I ECHO ALL THOSE SENTIMENTS AND SO MUCH MORE. I REALLY LOVE THE WAY YOU HAVE EXPANDED THE ROAM OF NOT JUST BEING ENDORSE THROUGH 4H FOR THE YOUNGER ONES THAT ARE COMING UP BUT WHAT YOU DID THIS PAST WEEK WITH THE ALL STAR ROUND UP, LISTELISTEN, IT'S DOING EVERYTHG THAT JULIA WHEN SHE PLANTED THAT SEED, THINK OF IT AS THAT PLANT STARTING TO GROW AND THE SHADE THAT IT WILL PROVIDE FOR GENERATIONS IS GOING TO BE BEAUTIFUL.

I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE GOING TO INTEGRATE THE ALL STAR SHOW NIGHT THE MAIN WEEK. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT AND WE'RE GOING TO INVITE YOU BACK AS IT GETS CLOSER TO JUNIOR LIFE STOCK SHOW TIME TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES. BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE KNOW THE SALE. AND THAT'S ALL THEY KNOW AND THAT'S A SHAME BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH MORE TO 4H, TO THE

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PROGRAM THE LEADERSHIP, AND THE SCHOLARSHIP OPPORTUNITIES.

AND WE WANT YOU TO HAVE AS MUCH SOMETIME AS YOU HAVE AT THE PODIUM TO SHOWCASE WITH US. CHLOE, YOU'RE LEADING THIS VERY IMPRESSIVE PACK WITH A GREAT TEAM AND BEHIND YOU AND I KNOW THE RESPONSIBILITY AND EVEN SOMETIMES BURDEN IS GREAT.

BUT YOU CAN'T GO WRONG AS LONG AS YOU TRUST ONE ANOTHER AND YOU REMEMBER THAT YOU TRULY ARE A REALLY REPRESENTATIVE GROUP OF YOUTH AMBASSADORS FOR AN ENTIRE COUNTY.

I LOVE THAT WEES HAVE FLOWER BLUFF AND PADRE ISLAND AND WEST OSO AND BLANKETI AND BISHOP, LOGAN YOU'VE GOT TO BE SO PROUD OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN ONE YEAR'S TIME AND HELP OUT THANKS TO THE PARENTS WHO REALLY PUT IN A LOT, IT'S ALMOST AS MANY HOURS AS YOU DEVICE DO. AND TO ALL THE VOLUNTEERS AND OUR AG EXTENSION AGENT FROM DONNIE ALL THE WAY DOWN WE THANK YOU. AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANY PRESSURE BUT ANNA BELL, CHLOE, ANYBODY JOSH, WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO, ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? DON'T HAVE TO. YOU CAN JUST STAND THERE AND LOOK -- THERE WE GO. IS WELCOME CHLOE.

>> HI THANK YOU. I WOULD JUST MOSTLY LIKE TO SAY WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT YOU'VE GIVEN US ALL THE YEARS THROUGH 4H. EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS, WE ARE A YOUTH DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION AND EVERYTHING WE DO IS FOR OUR CAREERS AND NOOUMP LIVES AND PRETTY MUCH MAKING US BETTER PEOPLE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO EVERY LITTLE BIT THAT YOU HELP WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONERS, THERE IS ALWAYS A GOOD WAY TO HELP WITH YOUR OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDS THEY QUALIFY AS A 501 C THREE. 3.

LOGAN T THIS IS HOW WE DO IT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A A TOTE IF AURAL OF YOU WOULD PLEASE APPROACH.

WHAT DO YOU THINK GUYS, PUT THEM UP FRONT.

YOU GUYS COME UP TRONT AND THE COMMISSIONERS WILL ORGANIZE

THEMSELVES. >> CONGRATULATIONEST, THANK

Y'ALL. >> YACHCONGRATULATIONS WILLIAM .

, SIR. CONGRATULATIONS.

>> GOOD JOB, DID JOB. >> THEY HAVE A TERRIFIC WEBSITE IF YOU WARRANT TO LEISURE MORE ABOUT THE JUNIOR LIFE STOCK SHOW AND THE 4H PROGRAM I WOULD INVITE YOU TO GOOGLE THAT, THIS

[2. In recognition of October 16, 2022 - October 22, 2022 as Wesley Community Center Week, to celebrate 80 years of service in Nueces County.]

AFTERNOON. NEXT WE'LL MOVE TO THE RECOGNITION OF AN IMPORTANT WEEK.

OCTOBER 16TH THROUGH OCTOBER 22ND, IS THE WESLEY COMMUNITY CENTER WEEK. IT REPRESENTS 80 YEARS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE IN NUECES COUNTY AND AGAIN WE'LL TURN TO

BELINDA FOR MORE INFORMATION. >> WHEREAS THE COMMISSIONER ESCORT RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF STRONG FAMILIES SOUND MINDS AND SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS AND WHEREAS WESLEY COMMUNITY CENTER BWAS FOUNDED IN 1942 IN ROBS TON TEXAS, BY UNITED METHODIST CHILDREN, AND WHEREAS WESLEY

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COMMUNITY CENTER EXPANDED SERVICES TO THE CORPUS CHRISTI COMMUNITY WITH THE REQUISITION OF A PREVIOUS CHILDCARE CENTER THAT WAS CLOSING ITS DOORS IN 2001 AND WHEREAS WESLEY COMMUNITY CENTER PROVIDES HIGH QUALITY DAYCARE FOR THE CHILDREN OF ROBS TOWN AND CORPUS CHRISTI WHO DISPLAY THE GREATEST NEEDS, INCLUDING THOSE CHILDREN TWO WEEKS TO 12 YEARS OLD, LIVING IN HOMELESS SHERMTS AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FACILITIES IN CORM CORPUS CHRISTI, TO PROVE FAMILIARITY SAFE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT ALLOWS MOTHERS AND THEIR CHILDREN TO REMAIN IN A COHESIVE FAMILY UNIT WITH WITHIN A LOVING COMMUNITY, SETTING AS THEY MOVE FROM THE HOMELESSNESS TO HOPEFULNESS AND WHEREAS WESLEY COMMUNITY CENTER MEETS GROWING FOOD INSECURITY NEEDS, BY FRAIGHT FOOD PANTRIES IN BOTH THE CORPUS CHRISTI AND ROBS TOWN CENTERS EACH WEEK. AND WHEREAS THE SERVING RURAL NUECES COUNTY AND WHEREAS WESLEY COMMUNITY CENTER IS CELEBRATING THIS MONTH A LEGACY OF 80 YEARS OF CONTINUOUS OPERATION AND DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE RESIDENTS OF NUECES COUNTY, NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE COMMISSIONER ESCORT OF NUECES COUNTY PROCLAIMS THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 16TH THROUGH THE 22ND, 2022, AS WESLEY COMMUNITY CENTER WEEK IN NUECES COUNTY, IN HONOR AND RECOGNITION OF THE LASTING IMPACT THAT THE WESLEY COMMUNITY CENTER HAS HAD TO THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COUNTY'S CHILDREN YOUTH AND FAMILIES.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU BELINDA.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS?

>> SO MOVED. >> I SECOND.

>> THANK YOU AND WITH A MOTION AND SECOND, WE'LL HEAR THERE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE REPRESENTING THE WESLEY COMMUNITY CENTER.

KIND OF A BEAUTIFUL TIE IN. THE WAY I LEARNED ABOUT THE WESLEY COMMUNITY CENTER IS MY TIE IN WITH THE GREAT ADVOCATE FOR -- I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU ALL HERE, WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU JUDGE, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

LIKE YOU SAID AND WE'VE SAID THIS IS OUR 80TH ANNIVERSARY YEAR OF CONTINUOUS SERVICE TO AT-RISK CHILDREN AND FAMILIES IN NUECES COUNTY. AND WE CAN -- WE DON'T DO IT ALONE. WE DO IT WITH A LOT OF HELP FROM MANY, MANY ORGANIZATIONS AND PEOPLE.

AND ONE OF THE LARGEST SUPPORTERS OF WESLEY COMMUNITY CENTER FOR MANY, MANY YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE 22 YEARS, HAS BEEN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ESCORT IN NUECES COUNTY.

WE ARE TRULY GRATEFUL, Y'ALL HELP US TAKE CARE OF OUR CHILDREN, HELP US TO HOUSE OUR HOMELESS MOTHERS AND THEIR DEPENDENT CHILDREN AND TO FEED OVER 100,000 PEOPLE A YEAR THROUGH OUR FOOD PANTRIES. WE APPRECIATE TRULY Y'ALL'S HELP. AND I WANT TO INTRODUCE SOME VERY IMPORTANT PEOPLE TO US. SCOTT ELLIF IS OUR PAST PRESIDENT. DUANE HARGISS IS OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT AND ONE OF OUR NEWEST BOARD MEMBERS IS SCOTT LAWSON.

THIS TRIO HELPS US KEEP OUR DOORS OM TO VERY DEDICATED INDIVIDUALS. AND WE THANK Y'ALL SO VERY,

VERY.MUCH. >> WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR US MOST VULNERABLE. COMMISSIONERS.

>> I WAS A MEMBER MUCH WESLEY COMMUNITIES CENTER AND THAT WAS BACK WHEN WE JUST HAD THE ROBSTOWN LOCATION, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE LOCATION THERE ON MACARTHUR AND HORN ROAD.

AND TO SEE IT GROW OVER THE YEARS IS THE JUST TRULY EXCITING. TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT EVERY YEAR WITH SOME OF MY OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING, IT IS AN HONOR FOR ME TO DO THIS. MELINDA, DR. OLIFF AND DUANE AND EVERYONE ELSE DO GREAT WORK TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THE DOORS OPEN IT'S THOUGHT EASY TO THE ROBSTOWN CENTER, FOR ALL THE KIDS THAT WOULD GO, THEY TOOK ON THE CHALLENGE OF MOTHERS AND KIDS IN NEED, WHEN I WAS STILL WORKING WITH CPS THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS THAT I WAS THERE AND TO SEE THEM TAKE THAT ON THEY HAVE TAKEN OVER SO MANY CHALLENGES AND ROAMS IN THIS COMMUNITY SO I AM THANKFUL THAT WE ARE RECOGNIZING THEM TODAY AND ALL THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE.

AND IF YOU HAVEN'T SPENT TIME OR GONE BY TO SEE OR SUPPORT THEM PLEASE DO SO. THERE ARE SO MANY WORTHWHILE AGENCIES THAT NEED YOUR RESOURCES, YOUR GIVING, BUT WESLEY COMMUNITY CENTER IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THEM, PROVEN THEIR WORTH AND CONTINUES TO DO IT.

QUIETLY AND JUST WITH GIVING LOVING HEARTS.

SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS BEING THERE AND I THINK

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OF EDDIE MATHIST JACKSON, WHO HAS BEEN THERE AND OTHERS WHO HAVE BEEN A PART OF IT OVER THE YEARS.

I'M THANKFUL THAT THE COURT CAN BRING THIS FORWARD TO RECOGNIZE ALL THE WORK THEY'VE DONE OVER THE LAST 80 YEARS.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. I WAS ORIGINALLY BROUGHT IN BY MS. BARRY, I'VE BEEN THERE, I'VE DONE SOME MANUAL LABOR WHEN MY BACK WAS A LITTLE STRONGER, WHEN STOTT SCOTT ACHED I WERE OVER THERE WORKING HASHED. I APPRECIATE SO MUCH WHAT YOU DO FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND ALL OF THE HARD WORK.

I MEAN I WAS -- YOU KNOW WHEN I WAS A CPS JUDGE YOU HELPED ME WITH THOSE CASES. I MEAN THERE'S JUST, IT'S KIND OF IT'S NOT THE BEST KEPT SECRET ANYMORE BUT IT USED TO BE THE BEST KEPT SECRET AND IT NEEDS TO BE LESS EVER A SECRET IN THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE WORK YOU DO IS SO IMPORTANT AND SO APPRECIATED. I THANK YOU AND THANK THE BOARD THAT'S HERE AND YOU HAVE A FINE TRIO AND I KNOW THE REST OF THE BOARD IS VERY STRONG AS WELL. CONGRATULATIONS AND YOU HAVE BEEN THE BACK BONE OF THAT OPERATION FOR MANY, MANY MANY YEARS AND IT IS SO APPRECIATED SO I KNOW WE'RE HERE HONORING YOUR ORGANIZATION. BUT I WANT TO PAY SPECIAL HOMAGE TO YOU AS WELL BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN A DRIVING FORCE IN THAT ORGANIZATION FOR MANY YEARS AND YOU ARE GREATLY APPRECIATED ALONG WITH THE WESLEY FOUNDATION, WESLEY COMMUNITY

CENTER. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> I WANT TO SAY ONE THING. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

>> I WANT TO THANK YOU ALSO FOR ALL YOU DO.

MY PASSION WAS ALL THE ONE UP THERE BY, YOU KNOW, REALLY GROWN THAT FACILITY TO REALLY OFTEN THE DOORS TO A LOT OF FAMILIES.

YOU STARTED WITH A FEW FAMILIES SINGLE THEN YOU WENT TO MULTI-FAMILIES WHICH I REALLY COMMEND YOU FOR THAT.

SO FOR TEN YEARS I KNOW I WAS PART OF THE GROWTH THAT YOU CONTINUED TO MOVE FORWARD AND NEVER GAVE UP.

YOU KNOW, AND YOUR APPLICATION WAS ALWAYS TO OPEN THOSE DOORS TO SINGLE MOMS WITH KIDS. AND, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'VE DONE THAT. THE WING THERE IS TREMENDOUS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE, EVERYTHING ALL THE OUTREACH THAT THE BOARD HAS DONE AND, YOU KNOW, CONTINUED TO DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING. AND THE GOOD LORD KNOWS WHAT YOU'RE DOING SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. >> I ALSO WANT TO SAY A FEW THINGS JUDGE. I USED TO WORK THERE AT ROBSTOWN AT THE CALDERON BUILDING. I KNOW THE WORK THAT YOU DO, WE HAD A FEW PEOPLE COME IN AND THEY WOULD ASK US WHERE IS THE WESLEY BUILDING, WE WOULD DIRECT THEM TO YOUR PLACE BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT Y'ALL DO, THERE ARE A LOT OF NEEDY FAMILIES THAT

Y'ALL HELP SO THANK YOU AGAIN. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. WELL YOU ARE LOVED, APPRECIATED, VALUATED, AND I KNOW THAT THE TEAM AND THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE WILL ALSO EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE FOR ALL THE UNSUNG HEROES THAT ARE BEHIND THE WESLEY COMMUNITY CENTER.

SO WITH THAT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THIS VERY SIGNIFICANT RECOGNITION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED, NONE. WILL YOU LET US CREATE MORE AWARENESS OF THE WESLEY CENTER BY TAKING A PHOTO WITH US?

>> GREAT, HAPPY TO. >> GREAT.

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>> OKAY. NEXT WE'LL ASK BELINDA TO READ A

[3. In support of Operation Green Light for Veterans.]

RESOLUTION REGARDING OPERATION GREEN LIGHT FOR VETERANS, WITH US TODAY IS OUR VETERANS SERVICE OFFICER J. J. AND WE'LL ASK YOU TO TURN YOUR ATTENTION TO BELINDA.

SO WE CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT OPERATION GREEN LIGHT.

>> WHEREAS THE RESIDENTS OF NUECES COUNTY HAS GREAT RESPECT, ADMIRATION AND THE UTMOST GRATITUDE FOR ALL OF THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE SELFLESSLY SERVED OUR COUNTRY AND THIS COMMUNITY IN THE ARMED FORCES AND WHEREAS THE CONTRIBUTIONS AND CHARACTERIZCHARACTERIZATION, MAG TREE DOMS AND WAY OF LIFE ENJOYED BY OUR CITIZENS. AND WHEREAS NUECES COUNTY SEEKS TO HONOR THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE PAID THE HIGH PRICE OR THE FREEDOM BY PLACING THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY FOR THE GOOD OF ALL, AND WHEREAS, VETERANS CONTINUE TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY IN THE AMERICAN LEGION, VETERANS OF FOREIGN WARS, RELIGIOUS GROUPS CIVIL SERVICE AND BY FUNCTIONING AS COUNTY VETERANS SERVICES SERVICES OFFICERS IN 29 STATES TO HELP FELLOW SERVICE OFFICERS, ACCESS COMPENSATION BENEFITS EACH YEAR OF AND WHEREAS APPROXIMATELY 200,000 SERVICE MEMBERS TRANSITION TO CIVILIAN COMMUNITIES ANNUALLY, AND WHEREAS, AN ESTIMATED 20% INCREASE OF SERVICE MEMBERS WILL TRANSITION TO ILL CIVILIAN LIFE IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND WHEREAS, INDICATED THAT 44 TO 72% OF SERVICE MEMBERS EXPERIENCE HIGH LEVELS OF STRESS DURING TRANSITION FROM MILITARY TO CIVILIAN LIFE, WHEREAS TIFF SERVICE MEMBERS TRANSITIONING FROM MILITARY SERVICE ARE AT HIGH RISK OF SUICIDE DURING THEIR FIRST YEAR AFTER MILITARY SERVICE AND WHEREAS THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES ENCOURAGE ALL COUNTIES PARISHES AND BOROUGHS TO RECOGNIZE GREEN LIGHT FOR VETERANS AND WHEREAS NUECES COUNTY PREESHTS THE SACRIFICES OF OUR MILITARY PERSONNEL AND BELIEVES THAT SPECIFIC RECOGNITION BE GRANTED NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THIS COMMISSIONER ESCORT OF NUECES COUNTY HEREBY DECLARES FROM NOVEMBER 7TH THROUGH NOVEMBER 13TH, 2022, A TIME TO SALUTE AND HONOR THE SERVICE AND SACRIFICE OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM, TRANSITIONING FROM ACTIVE SERVICE, AND THAT IN OBSERVANCE OF OPERATION GREEN LIGHT, ENCOURAGES CITIZENS OF NUECES COUNTY IN PATRIOTIC TRADITION TO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF HONORING ALL OF THOSE WHO HAVE MADE THE IMMEASURABLE SACRIFICES TO PRESERVE FREEDOM BY DISPLAYING A GREEN LIGHT IN THE WITH IT OF THEIR PLACES OF BUSINESS OR

RESIDENCES. >> THANK YOU, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A

MOTION TO APPROVE. >> THANK YOU.

>> JJ WELCOME. >> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS I HAVE BEEN COORDINATINGS WITH THE COURT ADMINISTRATION, JUAN PIMENTEL AND HERRERA, WITH THE COURT'S APPROVAL, WE WOULD LIKE TO LIGHT THE PORTION OF THE RICHARD BORCHARD FAIRGROUNDS AGREE DURING THIS PERIOD.

WE HAVE WORKED THIS OUT LESS THAN $1,000 THAT WE WILL ACCOMPLISH THIS AND THIS WOULD COME WITH EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS BUDGETS. 7TH THROUGH THE 13TH OF

NOVEMBER. >> IT IS AWESOME.

I HOPE WE HAVE A PHOTOGRAPHER TOO BECAUSE I REALLY WANT TO CAPTURE THAT. COMMISSIONER MAREZ.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD NEED TO BE AN ACTION ITEM BUT I WOULD BE WILLING IN SUPPORT IN PAYING FOR PART OF THAT IF IT MEANS LIGHTING MORE OF THE FAIRGROUNDS OR IF THERE ARE OTHER AREAS.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> IF YOU JUST CONSIDER THAT.

>> YES, SIR I'LL BE IN TOUCH. >> SO I THINK I'M SURE WE ALL WILL SO I'M HAPPY TO JUMP IN THERE TOO.

>> ADDITIONALLY JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS WE PRESENTED THIS OPERATION GREEN LIGHT INITIATIVE TO THE TEXAS VETERANS LAND BOARD AND THEY ALSO WILL BE LIGHTING EACH OF THE STATE VETERANS CEMETERIES GREEN FOR THIS PERIOD AS WELL SO THE STATE IS ON BOARD

AS WELL. >> THAT'S GREAT.

AND IF YOU HAVE IDEAS, WHAT I LOVE ABOUT IT, CAN YOU DO IT AT YOUR OWN HOME OR BUSINESS. GIVEN IT'S SO CLOSE TO HOLIDAYS,

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GREEN LIGHTS AREN'T THAT HARD TO FIND.

SO PLACE A GREEN LIGHT FOR THOSE THAT HAVE SACRIFICED SO MUCH FOR ALL M OF US. THIS IS A WONDERFUL PROJECT AND I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WORK WITH TYLER AS WELL, DORSON OUR PIO SO HE CAN CAPTURE IT AND MESSAGE IT CORRECTLY.

I KNOW IT'S GOING TO SPREAD LIKE WILDFIRE THROUGHOUT THE OTHER

POLITICAL JURISDICTIONS. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED SAME SIGN. ALTHOUGH WE DIDN'T DO AN ALL CALM WE'RE BLESSED TO HAVE SO MANY VETERANS THAT WORK HERE IN NUECES COUNTY. IF YOU OAR VETERAN WOULD YOU JOIN ME AND THE COMMISSIONERS UP TRFRONT FOR THIS PHOTO THAT HIGHLIGHTS OPERATION GREEN LIGHT.

WE'D LIKE TO HONOR YOU IN COURT HERE TODAY.

ALL VETERANS TO THE FRONT PLEASE.

>> THERE IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM SHORTLY REGARDING VETERANS AND VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS SO IT IS FITTING THAT YOU ARE HERE WITH US. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNEW ABOUT OPERATION GROWN LIGHT BUT I THINK IT'S A GREATLY OPERATION AND WE'RE GOING TO SPREAD THE WORD THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTY WIDE FACILITIES TO SEE HOW EVERYBODY CAN PARTICIPATE.

[4. In support of immediate funding for State Government Mandated Services as set out by the County Judges and Commissioners Association of Texas, Executive Board's request to the Texas Legislative Budget Board.]

WE DO HAVE ONE FINAL IMPORTANT RESOLUTION.

IT IS IN SUPPORT OF IMMEDIATE FUNDING FOR THE STATE GOVERNMENT MANDATED SERVICES. THEY'RE SET OUT BY THE COUNTY JUDGES AND COMMISSIONS ASSOCIATION OF TEXAS.

THIS COMES AS AN EXECUTIVE BOARD REQUEST TO THE TEXAS LEGISLATIVE BUDGET BOARD. BELINDA WILL TELL US MORE.

>> WHEREAS RECOGNIZING THE STRAIN THE LACK OF SUFFICIENT STATE FUNDING PLACES ON LOCAL COUNTY GOVERNMENTS THE EXECUTIVE BOARD OF THE COUNTY JUDGES AND COMMISSIONERS ASSOCIATION OF TEXAS MET ON AUGUST 24TH, 2022, AND UNANIMOUSLY MASSED A RESOLUTION -- PASS ED A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE STATE BUDGET BOARD TO PROVIDE A BACKLOG FOR THE TEXAS INMATES, PATIENTS AND JUVENILES, UNDER A 3.5% REVENUE CAP STATE GOVERNMENT MANDATED SERVICES THREATENED TO OVERWHELM COUNTY SERVICES WITH AN ESCALATING BACKLOG OF STATE FELONY INMATES, DEFENDANTS AND FELONY JUFNL DIEFNLDERS, WHEREAS THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE HAS BEEN CLOSING FACILITIES AND REDUCING CAPACITY WHERE THE STATE LEADERSHIP HAS TEXAS COMMISSION ON JAIL STANDARDS THE BACKLOG OF PAPER READY INMATES AWAITING TRANSFER TO TDCJ HAS INCREASED FROM 1521 IN JUNE OF 2021 TO 3608 IN JUNE OF 2022. A 137% INCREASE IN ONE YEAR.

SANTA RATE OF $50 PER DAY THESE STATE INMATES ARE COST BEING LOCAL PROPERTY TAXPAYERS $65,846,000 PER YEAR.

WHEREAS THE NORTH TEXAS STATE HOSPITAL IN VERNONS IS THE PRIMARY STATE FACILITY TO RECEIVE AND TREAT CRIMINAL DFTS WHO ARE INCOMPETENT TO STAND TRIAL.

WHEN THESE DEFENDANTS ARE DENIED ADMISSION TO THE STATE FACILITIES THEY MUST BE CONFINED IN THE COUNTY JAIL.

THIS CREATES A DANGER TO OTHER INMATES AND STAFF WHILE PROVIDING NEEDED SERVICES TO THESE DEFENDANTS.

AT THIS TIME THE NORTH TEXAS STATE HOSPITAL HAS COMPLETELY STOPPED RECEIVING NEW ADMISSIONS.

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THE BACKLOG WAS ALSO DELAYING TRANSFER OF THESE PATIENTS FROM THE COUNTY JAIL TO THE STATE FACILITY FOR TWO YEARS FOR VIOLENT OFFENDER AND ONE YEAR FOR ALL OTHER PATIENTS.

EVEN PRIOR TO THIS SHOWFNED WITH THE TOTAL OF 2438 PATIENTS AWAITING TRANSFER TO COUNTY JAILS AS $100 PER DAY THIS BACKLOG WAS COSTING COUNTY TAXPAYERS AT LEAST $88,877,500 PER YEAR. WHEREAS THE TEXAS JUFNL JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INCARCERATION AND PLACEMENT WHO ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR THE JUFNL JUSTICE SYSTEM, THIS INCLUSION VIOLENT OFFENDERS WHO CANNOT BE SAFELY HOUSED WITH OTHER JUVENILES. THIS PROGRAM UNDER TJJD HAS EXPERIENCED EFFICIENCIES IN ITS OPERATION AND ADMINISTRATION, THIS PAST MONTH, THE TJJD ANNOUNCED THAT IT WOULD REFUSE ANY NEW ADMISSIONS. THIS IS FORCING COUNTIES TO HOLD THESE SERIOUS OFFENDERS IN FACILITIES DESIGNED AND STAFFED FOR NONVIOLENT OFFENDERS. THIS FAILURE BY THE STATE EXPOSES COUNTY STAFF AND OTHER JUVENILES TO GREATER RISK OF INJURY OR DEATH BY INTERRUPTING THE REHABILITATION OF THESE OFFENDERS. EACH OFFENDER REFUSED ADMISSION WILL COST COUNTY TAXPAYERS APPROXIMATELY $250 PER DAY OR $91,200 PER YEAR. WHEREAS TDDJ FUNDING HAS BEM TRANSFERRED, AFTER PRIOR BUDGET THRS ET CETERA MENTAL HEALTH FUNDING WAS REDUCED BY 2% IN THE CURRENT STATE BUDGET, THE BUDGET FOR TJJD WAS REDUCED BY 5% BEFORE SOME INTERIM RELIEF FOR SALARIES. THESE STATE FAILURES TO MEET ITS FINANCIAL OBLIGATION VES RESULTED IN COIFNLT PROPERTY TAXES INCREASES TO PROVIDE THESE UNFUNDED BUT MANDATED SERVICES IN COUNTY JAILS AND JUVENILE FACILITIES.

WITH EXTRAORDINARY INCREASE IN STATE REVENUE PROVIDING A $27 BILLION INCREASE, THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR CONTINUING THESE BACKLOGS. NOW THE COMMISSIONER ESCORT SPOWRTLE IMMEDIATE RELIEF OF THIS CRISIS TO TRANSFER SUFFICIENT STATE FUNDS TO MEET THESE RESPONSIBILITIES.

>> I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> QUESTIONS. >> ANY DISCUSSION?

>> YES PLEASE JUDGE. THERE'S -- I'D LIKE TO ATTACH THE BACKUP TO THIS RESOLUTION THAT WE SEND IN.

BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT OF NUMBERS THAT I HAVE NO CLUE, HAVE NEVER SEEN, DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA IF THESE ARE RIGHT.

IT'S GOT SOME PRETTY HARSH LANGUAGE IN IT TO THE STATE.

WE'RE SAYING THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS AND IT'S RACED PROPERTY TAXES. SO I'M ALL FOR THE RESOLUTION PART OF IT WHERE IT SAYS SUPPORT IMMEDIATE RELIEF OF THE CRISIS THROUGH ACTION OF THE LEGISLATIVE BUDGET BOARD BUT I HAVE NO IDEA WHETHER IT'S RIGHT OR NOT, NONE.

SO I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH PASSING A RESOLUTION THAT'S SENT WITH SOME PRETTY HARSH LANGUAGE THAT I DON'T HAVE ANY BACKUP TO.

>> WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND SECOND.

THE BACKUP IS, IF YOU HAD PARTICIPATED INSIDE THE JUDGES CONFERENCE, THIS WAS PRESENTED AND APPROVED BY THE EXECUTIVE

BOARD. >> I'M NOT ON THE EXECUTIVE BOARD JUDGE. SO I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO

BE THERE. >> I'M SAYING YOU IT IS AVAILABLE TO US. UNFUND ID MANDATES FOR

COUNTIES -- >> I'M ASKING FOR BACKUP ATTACHED BECAUSE THERE IS NO BACKUP IN OUR AGENDA.

>> WE CAN ABSOLUTELY ATTACH OURS.

IT WILL BE A GLOWING CASE OF WHAT ALREADY IS EVIDENT THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF TEXAS FM.

>> GREAT THAT SHOULD BE -- >> THE BURDEN IS PLACED ON THE TAXPAYER. WE TALK ABOUT TAXPAYER REFORM PS THAT IS ONE OF YOUR SITTING THEMES.

THIS IS HOW WE DO IT. >> I JUST WANT BACKUP.

>> WE'LL BE HAPPY TO DO IT. >> THERE IS NO BACKUP.

>> IT IS A RESOLUTION THAT ALL 254 COUNTIES ARE PRESENTED WITH

BY THE STATE. >> WE STILL NEED TO VERIFY THAT IT IS RIGHT. ARE YOU SAYING WE SHOULD JUST TAKE WHAT SOMEONE GIVES US WITH NO BACKUP?

>> THAT WE PRESENTED THE INFORMATION TO THE STATE, TO THE ASSOCIATION THAT WE ALL BELONG TO.

AND I BELIEVE THAT ALL OF THAT INFORMATION HAS BEEN PRESENTED.

HAVING SAID THAT, OURS IS A GREAT CASE STUDY AND WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY, IN ADDITION TO OUR RESOLUTION, SHOW OUR TERRIBLE NUMBERS. AND OUR GREATLY BURDEN.

>> I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD SHOW THE NUMBERS.

ALL I'M SAYING I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'RE ARGUING ALL I'M SAYING IS I WANT THE BACKUP THAT VERIFIES THESE NUMBERS IN THIS RESOLUTION. BECAUSE WE HAVE NOTHING TO RELY ON. I DON'T SIT ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OF THE JUDGES AND COMMISSIONERS ASSOCIATION.

SO I WOULD JUST LIKE ALL I WANTED WAS THE BACKUP FOR THESE NUMBERS, NOT OUR NUMBERS, I DON'T WANT ANY -- THERE OUGHT TO BE AN EASY SET OF BACKUP BECAUSE THEY CAME UP WITH THIS.

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I'M NOT TRYING TO CAUSE WORK FOR OUR PEOPLE TO COME UP WITH OURS.

I WANT THE BACKUP THAT BACKS UP THIS ATTACHED TO THE RESOLUTION

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. >> I DON'T THINK TAC WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. I DON'T THINK TAC WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT AT UL. BUT TO QUESTION THE IDEA THAT THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES DOES NOT HAVE THEIR NUMBERS RIGHT WHEN WE RELY ON THEM, THEY ARE OUR AGENT.

>> JUDGE I QUESTION EVERY NUMBERS EVERY DAY.

THEY MAKE MISTAKES -- >> TAC IS NOT ALWAYS RIGHT.

>> WOW. >> I CAN SEE WHAT THE REQUEST HERE IS. AND WE JUST TAKE A VOTE, SEE

WHAT HAPPENS. >> LET'S TAKE A VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY -- WE CAN MAKE IT TO WHERE WE SHOW OUR CASE STUDY NUMBERS AS WELL AS TAC'S.

>> I DON'T REQUEST THAT, ALL I ASK IS THE BACKUP FOR THIS

RESOLUTION. >> I'LL SEND IT INDEPENDENTLY.

I HAVE A MOTION WITH A SERK. >> THAT'S ALL I ASKED FOR IS

BUM. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY

SAYING AYE. >> NO.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> DOES IT HAVE THE BACKUP IN IT

OR NOT? >> YES, YES.

TAC HAS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ASKING THE RIGHT INSTITUTION TO GIVE US THE RIGHT NUMBERS. THEY ARE THE ONES THAT WIN TESTIFYING. THEY'VE ALREADY PROVIDED TESTIMONY. IT'S IN THE LINKS.

>> I WOULD SUGGEST I'M GOING TO VOTE NO AND SUGGEST WE TABLE THIS UNTIL THE BACKUP'S PROVIDED.

I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE PUTTING SOMETHING FORWARD THAT I'M NOT SEEING ANY BACKUP FOR. I'M GOING TO CHANGE MY VOTE TO A NO AND MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT SO WE CAN BRING IT BACK NEXT WEEK. I AGREE WITH THE WHEREAS, I DON'T AGREE WITH ALL THE HARSH LANGUAGE, I DON'T AGREE TO PUTTING MY STAMP ON IT WITHOUT BACKUP FOR IT.

>> I'LL POINT OUT THE BURDEN THAT WE'RE SAYING THERE, BECAUSE THAT WAS A LONG RESOLUTION. THE ESSE E IS THE STATE OF TEXAS PROITH MENTAL HEALTH OUR JAILS ARE CLOGGED AND FULL AND WE NEED RELIEF AND TRANSPORT.

THE 254 COUNTY JUST AND ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THOSE COUNTIES, LIKE COUNTY OF -- COUNCIL FOR URBAN COUNTIES ALONG WITH THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES IS TRYING TO MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD, WHY, TO GIVE OUR TAXPAYERS RELIEF BECAUSE OUR BUDGET IS IN LARGE PART SUPPORTING THAT JAIL, SUPPORTING THOSE FOLKS THAT DON'T NEED TO BE HERE BUT THEY NEED TO BE AN VERNONS OR A VERNONS LIKE INSTITUTION.

AND THAT IS WHY OUR ASSOCIATION HAS MADE IT A TOP PRIORITY.

AND SO I'LL BRING IT, IF AGAIN IF THE MOTION FAILS IF THREE PEOPLE VOTE AGAINST, VOTE AGAINST MAKING CERTAIN THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS HEARS US, THEN WE WILL PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA.

THAT'S ALL. WE'LL MOVE ON FORWARD.

>> NO JUDGE, IT'S THREE PEOPLE VOTING AGAINST ONCE AGAIN AN AGENDA ITEM WITH NO BACKUP THAT I'M ASSUMING YOU PUT ON.

>> RESOLUTIONS -- >> THE WAY YOU WANT TO SPIN IT, I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO YOU SPIN IT.

>> YOU'RE GETTING VERY ANGRY ABOUT TAX REFORM.

>> I'M NOT ANGRY. I'M VERY INVOLVED IN THE INTENT OF THIS BUT NO. SOMEBODY PROVIDES ME BACKUP THAT SHOWS THESE ACTIONS ARE ACCURATE THAT'S IT.

>> IT DID. >> IT SAID IT WOULD PROVIDE THE BACKUP BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT DOESN'T HAVE IT.

SO -- >> I'VE NEVER SEEN US HAVE BACKUP TO ROSMSES. THAT'S NOT IN THE NORMAL COURSE.

WE'RE HAPPY TO DID IT, WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTACT TAC AND GET THAT DONE. AGAIN --

>> NUMBERS LIKE THIS MOST OF OUR RESOLUTIONS ARE WHEREAS WE SUPPORT OR WHEREAS WE DO OR WHEREAS THIS.

THIS IS AN AGAINST DEAL WITH MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF IMPLICATIONS AND NUMBERS. IF IT'S RIGHT THEN IT SHOULD HAVE HAD BACKUP IN IT AND IT SHOULD HAVE SHOWED THOSE NUMBERS

AND TAC HAS TO HAVE THOSE. >> THEY DO.

THEY'VE MADE -- THEY'VE ALREADY TESTIFIED.

>> WE CAN MOVE ON. I MOTION TO TABLE THIS TO OCIALGHT 19TH. TO HAVE BACKUP PROVIDED IN IT THAT SHOWS THESE NUMBERS ARE ACCURATE.

>> WE'RE HAPPY TO BRING IT BACK COMMISSIONER.

YOU WANT TO WAIT ONE MORE WEEK FOR TAX REFORM FOR OUR TAXPAYERS WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. >> NO JUDGE.

>> YES WE ARE. >> DOESN'T EVEN MEET UNTIL JANUARY. COME ON.

>> IS THERE A SECOND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SECOND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY'S MOTION? NOW WE'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE THAT SAYS WE DON'T BELIEVE YOU SO WE'RE GOING TOABLY IN THE INFORMATION NEXT WEEK.

WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. >> THAT'S THE JUDGE'S SPIN.

THE THORL JUDGE'S SPIN. >> NO THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ ARE YOU GOING TO SECOND IT?

>> IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T BELIEVE YOU BUT I WILL SECOND THAT FOR TAC TO BRING US THE BACKUP.

>> WHAT HE JUST SAID, WE'RE DPOG BRING IT BACK AND BRING IT BACK IN A DIFFERENT WAY. ALL THAT IS IS A MOTION TO TABLE. WHAT IS YOUR DATE TO TABLE

COMMISSIONER? >> NEXT WEEK.

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>> THERE'S A DATE? >> 19TH.

>> OCTOBER 19TH. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. WE CAN MOVE ON.

WE'VE GOT A RECOGNITION ON H-1 AND JUDGE MADERI I SEE WE HAVE A NICE GROUP HERE AND IF YOU WILL GIVE ME JUST A LITTLE LATITUDE

[1. In recognition of Nueces County Human Resources Director, Julie Guerra, receiving an award from the Texas Veterans Commission.]

WE'LL BE RIGHT WITH YOU. I ACTUALLY HAVE SEVERAL ELECTEDS THAT I'D LIKE TO TAKE OUT OF ORDER AND I WILL.

H-1 IN RECOGNITION OF THE NOOSKS HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR WHO IS HERE WITH US TODAY, JULIE GAIR R GUERRA.

I'M HAPPY TO WELCOME TVC WITH US TODAY.

>> TODAY IS A GREAT DAY, I'M JAMES WILSON WITH THE TEM VETERANS COMMISSION, REPRESENTING PART OF THE VETERAN EMPLOYMENT SERVICES, WE RECOGNIZE EMPLOYERS WE WORK WITH, ADVOCATING THEM OF HIRING OF VETERANS.

AS OF LAST YEAR, 2021, I WORKED WITH JULIE GUEERRA AND HER TEAM IN A TEXAS VETERANS AWARD AND THEY FINALLY WON AFTER TWO YEARS OF BEING NOMINATED THEY WON LAST YEAR SO I'M HERE TO PRESENT HER AND THE HR DEPARTMENT THE TEXAS VETERANS COMMISSION AWARD.

>> THAT'S FANTASTIC. CONGRATULATIONS TO HR AND TO THE HR TEAM. I KNOW Y'ALL ARE HERE.

WE DON'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT RECOGNIZING ALL HERE.

>> AND ALSO JUST A QUICK ADDED NOTE, THAT THE TEXAS VETERANS COMMISSION ALSO AWARDED THE VETERANS SERVICE OFFICER OF THE YEAR J. J. DE LA CERTA, RECOGNIZING HIM AND WITH US HIRING VETERANS AND WORKING WITH THEM AT A AT THEIR VETERANS

CEMETERY. >> THAT'S FANTASTIC.

I THINK THAT RESERVES THIS. [APPLAUSE]

>> AND THIS IS THE WATER. AND DEFINITELY WANT TO PRESENT

THAT TO HER AND HER TEAM. >> CAN YOU READ THAT WHAT IT

SAYS ON THE AWARD SIR? >> TEXAS VETERANS COMMISSION, NUECES COUNTY, GOVERNMENT OF THE YEAR, LARGE.

>> WOW, FABULOUS JUST FANTASTIC. BOTH TO JULIE GUERRA AND TO JJ AND THEIR COMPARTMENTS, JULIE WOULD YOU LIKE TO RECOGNIZE YOUR

TEAM. >> YES, THANK YOU AGAIN, TO THE TEXAS VETERANS COMMISSION. WE'VE WORKED, MY STAFF AND I HAVE WORKED HARD TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

WE WORK CLOSELY WITH JJ'S DEPARTMENT ALSO AND TRYING TO RECRUIT AS MANY VETERANS AS WE POSSIBLY CAN HERE AT NUECES COUNTY. AND I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE MY STAFF. I HAVE SARAH LENGUA, MELINDA, PAULA HERNANDEZ AND RUTH DOMINGUEZ.

THANK YOU ALL AGAIN. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING COUNTIES THAT DO A GREAT JOB.

WE APPRECIATE YOU. AND WE'D LIKE TO GET A PHOTO FOR NOT ONLY THE VETERANS NEWSLETTER BUT OUR HR NEWSLETTER SO IF YOU LADIES WOULD COME UP, JJ IF YOU WOULD JOIN AS WELL.

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>> OKAY, WONDERFUL. IN THE INTEREST OF TAKING CARE OF OUR JUDICIARY HERE, I AM GOING TO ASK LOUIE TO HOLD ON GENERAL INFORMATION. I'M GOING TO STICK IN QUIBLGHTS THE MINUTES, IT JUST TAKES A MOMENT IF YOU IS HAVE READ THEM.

>> SO MOVED. >> I HEARD THE SECOND FROM HERNANDEZ, KARA AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AND THEN IN THE INTEREST OF

[1. Receive presentation from Public Defender's Office Oversight Board, including introduction of Chief Public Defender and related matters.]

TIME, WE'RE GOING TO MOOCH TO ITEM 3A 1 AND THEN WE'LL COME RIGHT BACK KARA TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

OKAY? SO WE'LL RECEIVE AN INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION FROM THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE OVERSIGHT BOARD AND THEY WILL ALSO AT THIS TIME INTRODUCE TO US THE CHIEF PUBLIC DEFENDER, WE'VE WELCOME MISSY MEDERA.

>> THANK YOU JUDGE, THIS IS A MONUMENT AT DAY FOR NUECES COUNTY. WHAT STARTED AS A DREAM OR THE US AND THE TEAM THAT WORKED ON THIS THAT ENDED UP WITH A $7.2 MILLION GRANT FROM THE TEXAS INDIGENT DEFENSE COMMISSION TO GET THAT DREAM DONE OF A PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE, MENTAL HEALTH.

THE TEAM WORKED INCREDIBLY HARD ON THIS.

THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE WILL PRESENT TO YOU THEIR OPTION OR THEIR RECOMMENDATION FOR CHIEF PUBLIC DEFENDER.

I WANT TO THANK THE TEXAS INDIGENT DEFENSE COMMISSION FOR BELIEVING IN NUECES COUNTY AND RECOGNIZING THE VISION THAT WE HAVE FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE AFFECTED BY MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. SO AT THIS TIME, I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HERE I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THEM. YOU HAVE LIBBY AVERT WHO ARE HERE YOU HAVE JANICE KAGAL, YOU HAVE ALSO MUSHEL, SHANE AND I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO OUR VICE CHAIR MR. JOHN MARTINEZ.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

THIS WAS A PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH TO FIND THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THIS POSITION. WE INTERVIEWED SEVERAL PEOPLE, AND IN THE END WE CAME OUT WITH WHO WE BELIEVE IS A GREAT CANDIDATE TO FILL THIS ROLE. THROUGH PROCESS OF THE INTERVIEWS I ALSO SPOKE TO SEVERAL JUDGES WHO MS. OBREGON WHO IS THE PERSON WHO IS GOING TO TAKE THE POSITION WHO SHE PRACTICED IN FRONT OF AND EVERY ONE OF THEM OVERWHELMINGLY TOLD US WHAT A GREAT CHOICE SHE WOULD BE FOR THIS POSITION.

SO MS. OBREGON DO YOU MIND COMING UP FOR THIS? FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVEN'T MET HER MS. DANIS OBREGON IS OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE T TOP SP. HE IS GOING THE READ 00 LETTER FROM THE COMMITTEE GOING THROUGH WHY WE CHOSE HER FOR THIS POSITION. SO DR. GLEESON.

>> WELCOME. >> WELCOME COMMISSIONERS, THIS WAS ALREADY SUBMITTED TO YOU ALL.

WE THE NUECES COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE WRITE TO SAY WE CHOOSE DANIS OBREGON, WE CHOOSE HER BASED ON HER EXPERIENCE VISION AND EXCITEMENT ABOUT STARTING THIS OFFICE AND MAKING IT A BENEFICIAL AND POSITIVE ADDITION TO NUECES COUNTY.

DANIS OBREGON IS 20 YEARS EXPERIENCE IN THE FIELD.

DEDICATED HER PRO FORMA LIFE, BOTH AS A PROSECUTOR AND CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY. HER EXPERIENCE WITHIN, LAW IS BROAD BASED, EXTENSIVE TRIAL EXPERIENCE AND APPELLATE WORK GIVING HER DETAILED KNOWLEDGE AND VALUABLE INSIGHT INTO WHAT TO PRESERVE THE RECORD. FURTHER, SHE HAS VALUABLE EXPERIENCE TEACHING AND MENTORING YOUNGER LAWYERS BOTH FORMALLY AND INFORMALLY. CLEAR, PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT WE FEEL WILL NOT ONLY BENEFIT COUNSEL AND THEIR OFFICE METICULOUS THEIR ENTIRE CAREERS BUT ALSO THEIR CLIENTS.

AS THE INAUGURAL PUBLIC DEFENDER, WE ARE CONVINCED THAT MS. OBREGON BRINGS NOT ONLY COMPASSION, ADVOCACY AROUND LEGAL KNOWLEDGE BUT THE ABILITY TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH ADVERSARIES, JUDGES AND COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS ALIKE.

IN OUR INTERVIEW WITH MS. OBREGON WE WERE IMPRESSWITH HER VISION TO REACH OUT TO DISPARATE STAKEHOLDERS WHERE HER

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OFFICE COULD BE BOTH UTILIZED AND PARTNER WITH EXISTING COMMUNITY RESOURCES. IMPORTANTLY, MS. OBRE DWRVETIONON ALSO INCLUDED A VISION FOR TEACHING, SO AS IF THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS MIGHT ONE DAY DEPART FOR PRIVATE PRACTICE, THE BENEFITS OF THE COMMUNITY WILL RESONATE FOR YEARS TO COME.

SERVINGAS A VOIS FOR THOSE SO OFTEN SILENCED AND UNDERREPRESENTED IN THE COMMUNITY IS EFLT.

MOREOVER SHE HAS A DEEP AND ABIDING PASSION OR THE THOSE STRUGGLING WITH MENTAL HEALTH, IN SHORT SHE SEEKS TO SERVE.

WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT HER AT THE HEALTH MANY WE FULLY EXCEPT NUECES COUNTY TO BE A MODEL, BY OPENING A PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE. MS. OBREGON HAS THE VISION TO SERVE LEAD AND TEACH. UNDER HER LEADERSHIP THE NUECES COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE WILL BECOME A POSITIVE INFLUENCE FOR THE PUBLIC AT LARGE AND WHERE THE RECEIVE COMPETENT RESPECTFUL AND ZEALOUS REPRESENTATION.

SHE HAS ALSO SPOKEN TO THE TEXAS INDEPENDENT GENT DEFENSE COMMISSION, WHO ARE EXCITED ABOUT HER VISION TO LEADING THIS NEW OFFICE. OUR 11 MEMBER BOARD INCLUDES PEOPLE FROM A VARIETY OF BACKGROUNDS BOTH PERSONALLY AND PRO FORMALLY, WE SHARE A COMMONALITY, A DEEP SUCCESSFUL PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE THAT SERVES THOSE IN GREAT NEED.

IT IS OUR UNANIMOUS, ENTHUSIASTIC RECOMMENDATION THAT DENIS OBRE GHRVETIONON BE APPOINTED TO LEAD THIS OFFICE, IN NAMING MS. OBREGON AS THE FIRST CHIEF PUBLIC DEFENDER, FEMALE LEADER IN THIS ROLE, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR PROVIDE ANY MORE INFORMATION, PHENOMENON REQUEST.

>> THANK YOU. WHAT A GREAT LETTER.

THAT IS ONE THAT I WOULD WANT MS. OBREGON IN MY OFFICE ON THE WALL. AND YOU ARE MAKING HISTORY IN SO MANY WAYS. AND WE ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE STATE OF TIM, THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION, THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FROM WHICH ALL GOOD THINGS HAVE FLOWN, FLOWN AND FLOW. WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU JUDGE CANALES AND COMMISSIONER EFERS FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY. I WANT TO SPECIFICALLY THANK THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, CHAIR LISA GREERCHBERG AND VICE CHAIR JOHN MARTINEZ FOR CHOOSING ME AND ENTRUSTING ME TO LEAD THIS IMPORTANTLY NEW VENTURE. I'M HONORED TO BE CHOSEN, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF INDEPENDENT GENT DEFENSE HERE IN NUECES COUNTY BUT MOST OF ALL I'M GRATEFUL.

TODAY IS THE DAY TO CELEBRATE. AS JUDGE MADERI MENTIONED SHE AND AMANDA DE LA CERDA AND AMANDA GREENBERG BEGAN THIS JOURNEY MONTHS AND MONTHS AGO. THERE WERE A LOT OF ZOOM CALLS LOT OF RESEARCH AND A LOT OF STRATEGIZING BUT MOST OF ALL THERE WAS COLLABORATION. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN THE DIFFERENT ARNLS OF GOVERNMENT INCLUDE THE JUDGE AND COMMISSIONER ESCORT, THE BOARD OF JUDGES AND VOLUNTEER CITIZENS WHO HAVE AGREED TO SERVE ON THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, WORK TOGETHER. AND YOU ALL MADE THIS HAPPEN.

BY WORKING WITH A STATE AGENCY, THE TEXAS INDEPENDENT GENT DEFENSE COMMISSION, TO CHANGE SOMETHING IN NUECES COUNTY, YOU SAW A NEED, AND YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED THE POTENTIAL SOLUTION. SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR ALL THAT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AS WE BUILD A TEAM OF COMPASSIONATE, QUALIFIED LAWYERS, WHO CAN REPRESENT AND BE THE VOICE FOR THE VOICELESS, THE INDIGENT, THE MENTALLY ILL IN THIS HAD COMMUNITY, TO IMPROVE THE OVERALL QUALITY OF INDIGENT DEFENSE. THANK YOU.

>> EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT, THANK YOU.

I JUST NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT IT'S JUST PRESENTATION ONLY.

WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ANY ACTION.

THE BOARD HAS, WE'VE EMPOWERED THE BOARD AND THE BOARD HAS NOW TAKEN THE ACTION. AND MAYBE THE ONLY THING TO REMIND EVERYBODY JUDGE JOHN THE TIME LINE.

WHEN DO WE GET STARTED? DO YOU WANT TO BRING THAT TO

LIGHT? >> I'M VERY EXCITED TO RETURN TO PUBLIC SERVICE AFTER BEING IN PRIVATE PRACTICE FOR 17 YEARS.

BUT THERE IS A PROCESS OF CLOSING MY PRACTICE.

>> UNDERSTOOD. >> SO BEGINNING TODAY I WILL WORK DILIGENTLY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

BEHIND THE SCENES, THE TEXAS INDIGENT DEFENSE COMMISSION HAS SUGGESTED THAT I GO AHEAD AND MAKE SOME PRELIMINARY DECISIONS

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WITH HR AND I.T., PAPERWORK, I CAN DO THAT AT THE SAME TIME.

SO MY GOAL IS -- I'M SHOOTING OR THE EARLY NOVEMBER.

>> OKAY. >> HOPEFULLY THAT SECOND WEEK OF NOVEMBER. IF I CAN DO THAT EARLIER I'LL BE HERE EARLIER FULL TIME BUT BEFORE THAT I'LL DO THINGS

BEHIND THE SCENES. >> UNDERSTOOD.

>> AS FAR AS OPENING THE OFFICE. THERE IS A WIDE RANGE APPARENTLY ACROSS THE STATE BUT I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT 90 DAYS IS ABOUT THE

AVERAGE. >> GOT IT.

>> SO MAYBE THE FIRST OF FEBRUARY.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED FOR

SURE. >> GREAT AND WE'RE GOING TO -- I KNOW HE'S LISTENING, HE MAY NOT BE IN THE ROOM BUT TIECIAL AUTHORIZESON REPRESENTS PUBLIC INFORMATION AND NOW THAT WE'VE MADE THIS PUBLIC WE WANT TO SHARE THIS WITH THE PUBLICKIVE GIVEN THAT 45% OF THE CASELOAD WILL BE FOR MENTAL HEALTH, WE'VE MADE THAT STOP PRIORITY IN NUECES COUNTY.

WE'VE JUST HEARD ABOUT THE UNBELIEVABLE STATISTICS THAT OCCUR IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. THIS IS NOTHING NEW, THIS IS AN OLD SONG AND NOW WE PLAY HAVE A NEW TSUNAMI TUNE AND THAT'S WHYO EXCITING, BRINGING THIS WITHIN NUECES COUNTY, IT DOES DISTINGUISH US AND YOU DISTINGUISH US.

THANK YOU TO DR. GLEESON, TO WITH JOHN, I KNOW, JOHN MADEROS SAID IT, BUT DO YOU WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL YOUR TEAM ONE

MORE TIME. >> LIBBY EVERT, JANICE KAGEL, DR. OWENS, ALSO MUSHEL, JOHN MARTINEZ, LISA GREENLEYBERG AND DR. SHANE, AND WE CONTINUE HAVE DON'T THIS WITHOUT THE ASSISTANCE OF AMANDA DE LA SERDA, SHE IS TRULY A CHAMPION.

>> I DISAGREE. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY CAN YOU SEE WHEN YOU DIG IN YOU PUT THE SHOULDER TO THE WHEEL THE WHEEL ACTUALLY MOVES.

THE ONE THEY SAID COULDN'T, THE ONE SURROUNDED BY BOULDERS, YOU DID IT AND WE DID IT TOGETHER AND IT TOOK LOTS OF ZOOM CALLS AND I WILL SAY THAT ADVOCACY, IS REALLY WHAT WON THE DAY TOO.

JUDGE MADERI, YOUR ABILITY TO BRING TIDC, YOU KNOW, TO REALLY BE ON THE CALLS WITH US. RIGHT? TO REALLY EXPLAIN TO THEM, IT WASN'T JUST A PIECE OF PAPER AND A GRANT WE WERE TURNING IN. IT WAS THIS ENTIRE WILL OF A COUNTY. AND EVEN THOUGH SHE'S NOT HERE I WOULD WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE CHERYL MCMILLAN, MAKING SURE THERE WE PIPPED, AMANDA BROUGHT US ALL THE DATA AND SHE GOT IT ALL TOQUE AND WE REFINED IT WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB.

AND FOR L ALL OUR SMALL PART HERE ON THE THIRD FLOOR WE ARE VERY, VERY GRATEFUL TO BE PART OF THIS HISTORY MAKING OFFICE.

AMANDA WELL DONE. THANK YOU JUDGE.

>> CAN WE GET A PICTURE? >> YOU BET WE CAN, COME ON TOWARD, THE WHOLE TEAM ALL OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE WE'LL DO

THAT. >> ALL RIGHT.

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THERE WAS WONDERFUL. I DON'T KNOW IF WE SAID IT BUT THERE'S ONLY LIKE A COUPLE OF COUNTIES THAT HAVE THIS TYPE OF OFFICE. AND OUR WARD WAS THE LARGEST AWARD FOR THE WHOLE STATE OF TEXAS.

SO IT REPRESENTS A FIVE YEAR PROGRAM SO IT'S -- THERE IS SO MUCH MORE TO SAY BUT I HOPE THAT THROUGH PUBLIC MESSAGING AND FURTHER PRESENTATIONS YOU'LL GET A FULL BREADTH OF WHAT THIS OFFICE REALLY IS MILLION SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ISS HERE IS ACCOMMODATE SOME IMPORTANT AGENDA ITEMS. THEY'RE ALL IMPORTANT BUT THIS HAS TO DO WITH ELECT ELECTEDS, T SERVE LAW ENFORCEMENT. GET THEM OUT TO WHAT THEY DO BEST AND SERVING PUBLIC SAFETY HUMAN RESOURCES, HOMER FLOTIS, ITEM 3 FIRST, HOMER AND YOURS IS NUMBER 8.

NUMBER 8, OKAY. >> JUDGE I HAD HERE, I WANT TO TABLE 3, 4 AND 7 HUMAN RESOURCES.

>> WELL I NEED TO -- >> SECOND.

>> WHY? THEY'RE HERE AND THEY'VE MADE THE -- I MEAN WHAT IS YOUR JUSTIFICATION? I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, THIS IS A MINISTERIAL, IT IS INCREDIBLY

A LOW BUDGET ITEM. >> IT IS A BUDGET ITEM THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT AT BUDGET TIME AND I THINK IT'S MONEY COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

CAN I FINISH TALKING PLEASE? >> YES.

>> MONEYS COMING FROM, AM I RIGHT ED, ADEL, WHERE IS THE

MONEYS COMING FROM RIGHT NOW? >> THESE WERE ERRORS THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU LAST A PROPOSED BUDGET AND THEN ADOPTING THE BUDGET SO THESE WERE ERRORS IN SUBMISSION TO THERE.

SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE BRINGS US THEM NOW.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO RESOLVE THE ERRORS THAT WAS

SUBMITTED. >> ERRORS IN WHAT WAY?

>> WE PROVIDE YOU WE HAD SOME VERY FEW TIMES TO DO TOUGH SUFFICIENT AND THERE WAS TRANSMISSION ERRORS AND TRANSPOSING YORS, THAT SHOULD BE A 2601 NOT A 1201, AND SAME THING FOR SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT THE JUVENILE WILL BE BRINGING US FORTH ITEMS THAT WERE MISSED WE PROPOSED THE BUDGET AND DON'TED THE BUDGET. JUST ITEMS THAT WERE MISSED

SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED. >> WITH DPEPTION OF NUMBER 4,

NUMBER 4 IS MY ITEM. >> 3 WAS NOT AN ISSUE.

NO. >> THREE IS A NEW ONE.

>> THREE WAS BEING -- YES. >> LET ME EXPLAIN.

ITEM NUMBER 4 IS MY ITEM. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT CLUMPED IN. THAT'S NOT A BUDGET -- THAT IS MY -- FIRST OF ALL WHEN YOU ASKED WHAT IS THE FUNDING SOURCE THAT'S WHAT THIS BODY GETS TO DECIDE WHETHER IT'S GENERAL FUND WHETHER IT'S AN ITEM THAT LAST ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE.

THAT IS WHY I THINK YOU SHOULD HEAR THE ITEM BEFORE YOU RUSH TO TABLE IT BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY INFORMATION.

>> I'M ASKING BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO.

DON'T TELL US THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN DOING JUDGE. I'M JUST SAYING MY QUESTION WAS AND I'VE GOT IT CLARIFIED BY DEL.

I MEAN BECAUSE THIS IS NOT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME.

SO NUMBER 3 IS A RECLASSIFICATION SHA THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE DURING BUDGET TIME.

>> THIS ONE IS NEW. >> AND THIS HAS TO DO WITH A PARTICULAR WAY THAT WE CLASSIFY PEOPLE WHO ARE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATORS. IF YOU ARE A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATOR YOU TACKLE THAT AT A SERGEANT LEVEL.

>> JUDGE, ANYTHING PUBLIC WORKS, I.T, ANYTHING TO DO IF IT'S NEW IT'S NEW. OKAY? SO THERE'S A POLICY WE SAID BACK THEN, THAT WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO YOU GOT TO DO IT AT BUDGET TIME.

SO THERE WAS A TIME TO DO THIS AND IT WASN'T DONE.

SO I WANT TO TABLE THIS TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING OVER AGAIN TO SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS.

>> COMMISSIONERS I WOULD -- >> IT IS ONLY FAIR FOR THE PEOPLE WE TOLD WE COULDN'T RECLASSIFY --

>> I WOULD ASK THAT YOU HEAR BEFORE ANY SERKZ, PLEASE ALLOW

OUR CONTINUAL ESTABLISH -- >> I SECONDED IT.

>> WITHOUT YIELDING TO THE CONSTABLE, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU YIELD TO THE CONSTABLE TO HEAR INFORMATION SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND

>> THIS IS A LAW ENFORCEMENT SAFETY ISSUE.

>> I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS JUDGE.

BELIEVE ME ANYBODY WHO UNDERSTANDS THAT IS ME BUT I'M TELLING YOU WE SHOULDN'T PUT THE PEOPLE ON THE SPOT AND WE'S DO.

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>> WE'RE NOT PUTTING THEM ON THE SPOT COMMISSIONER.

>> THIS IS A MOTION AND SECOND, THERE'S NOT SUPPOSE ED TO BE DISCUSSION WHEN THERE'S A TABLE AN UNDER A SECOND.

>> HOW ELSE CAN WE EXPLAIN? IF Y'ALL WANT TO MAKE A DECISION WITHOUT HEARING THE FACTS AND UNDERSTANDING AND MAKING

CLAIMS -- >> I'M TELL YOU WHAT I'LL TAKE YOUR TABLE -- HE'S RIGHT. HE'S RIGHT PROCEDURALLY BUT I HAVE TO CURE IT COMMISSIONER MAREZ, I HAVE A CURE, EXCUSE ME I HAVE A CURE. I'VE GOT A MOTION AND SECOND.

I WANT THEM TO VOTE ON THIS. WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND SECOND TO TABLE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

I'M TAKING THEM ONE AT A TIME. >> YOU DON'T GET TO DO THAT.

HIS MOTION AND MY SECOND WAS 3, 4 AND 7.

THAT WAS A MOTION. >> THIS COMES AS A SHOCK TO YOU BUT I'M THE PRESIDING OFFICER. I'VE CALLED THE MOTION I'M SO SORRY TO DO THIS BUT YOU'RE IS RUDE.

MUCH ORDER. >> BLEES STOP.

PLEASE STOP.

>> COMMISSIONERS I ASK, I ASK THAT YOU BE, THAT YOU USE COMMON

SENSE AND REASONABLENESS. >> YOU DON'T JUST GET TO RUN OVER US JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE THE QUOTE PRESIDING OFFICER.

I'M HAPPY TO -- >> I'M CALLING ONLY ONE ITEM.

>> TO CLARIFY THERE IS A MOTION I WAS TRYING TO CLARIFY -- GOOD

LORD. >> MOTION.

EXCUSE ME. >> I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT IF THE COMMISSIONER WANTS TO RESCIND HIS MOTION JUDGE.

GOD! >> YOU'RE DOING MORE DAMAGE.

>> EVERYBODY IS DOING DAMAGE JUDGE.

>> I THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ NOR THAT.

THAT IS PROPER WAY TO DO IT. >> THAT'S ALL I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR IS, YOU WRONT LET ME TALK. YOU WERE CALLING THE NOTION ON

THE MOTION ON 3, 4 AND 7. >> TO STABLE 3 ONLY.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO, NOW ECONOMIC GONZALEZ IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION TO BE PROARP.

YOU CAN LAUGH ALL YOU WANT TO JUDGE.

>> THERE IS A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER 3 FOR THE CONSTABLE ON A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE THAT WILL READ DISCUSS AND CONSIDER RECLASSIFYING CONEST CONSTABLE E MOTION IS TO STABLE IS THAT CORRECT TO ORBITING TO GIVE ME A DATE?

>> 19TH. >> OCTOBER 19TH, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SECOND ITEM NUMBER 3, IT'S THE

ONLY ONE THAT I'VE CALLED. >> YES.

>> OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

NO. NO.

>> I'M NOW REOPENING PUBLIC COMMENT AND WOULD ASK THAT CONSTABLE MENDOSA WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM SO THAT YOU COULD PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION? UNFORTUNATELY, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE ITEM, SIR UNTIL OCTOBER THE 19TH BUT THIS WAY THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS AND I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WAITING FOR AT LEAST 30, 45 MINUTES. AND I'M SORRY T TO TAKE YOU AWAY FROM PUBLIC SAFETY ONLY TO BE TABLED.

>> THANK YOU, GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS, JUDGE.

I WASN'T PREPARED. I HAVE MY CHIEF DEPUTY HERE THAT'S GOING TO GIVE YOU THE PRESENTATION.

>> OKAY THEN HE'S WELCOME TO DO THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU. CHIEF WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU, GOOD MORNING JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, BASED ON THE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE TODAY, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF COMMUTE AGUILAR WHO STANDS BEFORE ME, DEPUTY AGUILAR HAS BEEN WITH NUECES COUNTY PRECINCT SINCE 2013 AND HAS BEEN A VITAL ROLE SINCE COMING ON BOARD.

DEPUTY AGUILAR HAS BEEN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR NEARLY 33 YEARS AND CONTINUES TO DEMONSTRATE VERY STRONG ETHIC AND PERFORMANCE. BEFORE JOINING PRECINCT 5 TEAM DISPUTE AGUILAR WAS AN EMPLOYEE WITH THE ALICE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THERE HE SERVED A ROLE AS A LIEUTENANT SERGEANT AND EVEN I BELIEVE 12 YEARS AS A DARE PROGRAM OFFICER WHICH IS OUTSTANDING IN MY BOOK.

COMMUTE AGUILAR HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION CID SINCE I CAME TO PRESIRCHGHT 5 IN 2013. DEPUTY AGUILAR OVERSEES ALL INVESTIGATIONS FOR OUR DEPARTMENT INCLUDING THEFT BURGLARY ASSAULT FAMILY VIOLENCE AND DRUG CASES WHICH PLAYS A VITAL ROLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. SINCE 2013, DEPUTY AG HAS CATEGORIZED BEEN CATEGORIZED AS A DEPUTY 3 AND HAS TAKEN THE ROLE OF INVESTIGATOR DURING THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION BUT HAS NEVER BEEN PROMOTED TO CID EVEN THOUGH HE'S BEEN TAKING ON THAT

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ROLE SINCE COMING ON WITH 2013. WE ARE HERE TO ASK GIRVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET HIM TO WHERE HE NEEDS TO BE SINCE THE SERGEANT AGUILAR, I SEE HIM AS A SERGEANT, HE'S BEEN PLAYING THE ROLE SINCE 2013. AROUND I THINK IT'S WELL OVERDUE THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS IMRAWLT TO OUR ATTENTION.

CONSTABLE MENDOSA AND I FEEL STRONGLY THAT DEPUTY AGUILAR HAS PROVEN AND ACHIEVED EVERYTHING THAT IS REQUIRED OF HIM FOR THIS PROMOTION. THEREFORE TODAY I'M ASKING THAT THE COURT RECATTLE GRAZE DEPUTY AGUILAR TO SERGEANT AGUILAR/CID

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS MATTER? OKAY ALL RIGHT, WELL WE WILL SEE YOU BACK IT IS THE INTECHTION OF THE COURT TO SEE THIS BACK ON THE 19TH FOR FURTHER DISPOSITION OF THE MATTER. THANK YOU FOR THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION. THANK YOU.

[8. Discuss and consider approval of reclassification of two (2) Case Worker (JSO) positions from Pay Group 19 to Pay Group 21 in Department 3492 (Juvenile Justice Post-Adjudication) at an additional cost to Nueces County of $10,745 for the 22/23 Fiscal Year.]

AND ON ITEM NUMBER 8, I'LL TAKE THAT ONE BECAUSE I SAID I WOULD.

AND THEN I'LL GO BACK TO 4. THIS IS IN ERROR AND HOMER FLOREZ IS HERE TO DISCUSS THE RECLASSIFICATION OF TWO CASEWORKERS FROM 19 TO 21. WE ACTUALLY DID DISCUSS THIS DURING BUDGET AND WE DID MAKE THAT DETERMINATION BUT IN THE FINAL PROCESSES, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE WAS AN ERROR THAT WAS MADE. SO THIS IS A CORRECTION OF THAT.

IT DOES INVOLVE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS BUT ONLY IN SO FAR THAT THE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS WERE NOT CAPTURED IN THE BUDGET, BUT WERE CAPTURED BY INTENTION BY THIS COURT.

IN OTHER WORDS, THIS COURT'S INTENTION WAS TO GO FROM 19 TO 21. BUT WHEN WE ACTUALLY TRANSPOSED THE FIGURES, THE FIGURES DID NOT GET TO 21.

SO. >> JUDGE I THINK --

>> DAILY COULD YOU -- >> COULD I SAY SOMETHING FIRST WILLIAM WE APPROVED HOMER'S CASE, HE TALKED ABOUT THE

$10,000,. >> WAS GOING TO BE A DIFFERENCE OF $10,000. IT WASN'T IN THE WRITING, I THINK THAT WE DID BUT THERE WAS A MOTION THAT WE DID APPROVE THE $10 THUNDER SHOWER AT THAT TIME, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S COMING BACK UNLESS IT'S COMING BACK FOR ANOTHER ERROR OR WHAT.

>> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING, IT DID NOT GET TRANSPOSED CORRECTLY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FIXING HERE

TODAY. >> IN VIEW OF THE NEW MONTHS AND TRANSPOSING THIS FOR A JUFNL CASEWORKERS THERE WAS AN ROSH, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN GOING FROM 19 TO 21.

IT WAS DISCUSSED THIS COURT. IN THE BUDGET WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT GETS CORRECTLY ADDRESSED IN THE BUDGET.

>> I AGREE, I THINK THIS WAS THE AMOUNT HOMER THAT YOU SAID WE WOULD END UP PAYING EXTRA. THERE WASN'T A CHANGE RIGHT?

>> THIS WASN'T ANYTHING NEW. THIS WAS IN THE ORIGINAL

REQUEST. >> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING, WE'RE FIXING IT UP, THAT'S WHY THINGS ARE ON THE AGENDA IS TO HELP CLARIFY. THIS IS TO GET THIS CORRECTLY IN THE BUDGET. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

WILL YOU SECOND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. HOMER DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE OPEN THE AGENDA? ALL RIGHT WE'LL LET YOU GET BACK

TO WORK THEN. >> WHY ARE ALL THESE MISTAKES

HAPPENING? >> TWO DAYS TO GET THIS COMPLETED. TWO DAYS.

>> YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING.

RUSHING YOU OR SOMETHING. >> ALL RIGHT I'M GOING TO MOVE

[4. Discuss and consider creation of a deputy constable position for Precinct 5, to serve as a school resource officer; discuss and consider allocating American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funding for school resource officer position.]

ON TO MAKING SURE I'M TAKING CARE OF MY ELECTEDS, I'VE GOT DR. JOHNSON IS HERE FROM INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH ITEM NUMBER 4, SCHOOL SAFETY ITEM, IT IS AN ITEM THAT I PLACED IT IS TO CREATE A BRAND YOU IN POSITION AND ONE THAT I INTEND TO FUND WITH MY AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. THIS IS BECAUSE BAN KETTE DOES NOT HAVE A SCHOOL SAFETY OFFICER.

WE CAN NO LONGER ALLOW OUR SCHOOLCHILDREN TO GO TO SCHOOL WITHOUT FEELING SAFE ALONG WITH THEIR PARENTS TEACHERS, ADMINISTRATORS, BUS DRIVERS, COACHES, ET CETERA.

THIS IS A WAY TO SERVE. I WAS NOT AWARE OF THIS DURING BUDGET TIME. I WAS WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT SOME SAFETY FEATURES FOR THE SCHOOL.

THIS CAME UP. WELCOME.

>> JUDGE WHO WILL FUND THIS AFTER THE ARPA?

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THIS WILL BE -- HOW IS THIS GOING TO WORK? I DIDN'T THINK THAT BANKETTI WAS GOING TO KEEL WITH SOME OF THAT.

>> THIS IS DEALING WITH THE HERE AND NOW.

THE ANSWER IS WE'LL CROSS THAT LINE, WHEN WE GET TO THE NEXT BUDGETS CYCLE, WE TACKLE IT EVERY NUECES COUNTY.

>> MY QUESTION TODAY IS WE HAVE REPEATEDLY SAID WE WEREN'T GOING TO CONTINUE TO ADD PA POSITIONS AND YET WE CONTINUE TO DO IT.

>> THESE ARE CJ'S NUFNEDZ NOT COUNTY -- THESE ARE THE ONES

THAT ARE INSIDE. >> BUT WE WEREN'T GOING TO CREATE ANY MORE ARPA POSITIONS ONCE THEY COME OFF ARPA THEY ARE GOOD TO HAVE TO BE PAID FOR BY THE COUNTY'S BUDGET.

EVERY POKS -- >> NO THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE. THERE IS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES COMING UP, COMMISSIONER, WITH THE -- EXCUSE ME I'LL CALL ON YOU IN JUST A MOMENT, IF YOU SAID TO ME JUDGE I'D LIKE TO SPEAK, THEN I'LL CALL ON YOU. YOU'LL HAVE TO WAIT NO. I'M

FINISHED THEN I'LL CALL ON YOU. >> GO AHEAD.

>> THERE IS A LOT OF MOVEMENT ON THE FOOT AT THE STATE LEGISLATIVE LEVEL TO HELP RURAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS GET THE FUNDING THEY NEED. WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS A STOP GASTOPGAP MEASURE NOW AND I THIK THAT IS WHAT WE'RE READY TO DO FOR RURAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT DON'T HAVE ANYBODY.

SO THE IDEA HERE IS, IS THAT THE COUNTIES GAVE MADE A DECISION THAT EACH OF US WOULD HAVE $4 MILLION TO MAKE CHANGE TO DO GOOD INSIDE OUR COMMUNITY AS LONG AS THOSE ACTIVITIES WERE ELIGIBLE. I WOULD HOPE AND PRAY THAT THIS COMMISSION WOULD NEVER EVEN SECOND GUESS THE CONCEPT OF PLACING A SCHOOL OFFICER INSIDE BANKETTI.

BUT IN IT'S NOT THE WILL OF THE COURT -- AS LONG AS I CAN FINISH

I'LL GET RIGHT TO YOU. >> BUT I WAS NOT -- I WASN'T

DONE WHEN YOU INTERRUPTED ME. >> AS LONG AS IT'S THE WILL OF THE COURT TO NOT DO THAT, I'M WILLING TO USE PART OF MY ARPA FUNDS THE WAY I'VE DONE IN SO MANY OTHER WAYS TO DO GOOD WITH IT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. IF IT'S A MEETING OF THE MINDS IF BANKETTI UNDERSTAND IT'S FOR A YEAR AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S FOR A YEAR AND IT'S ELIGIBLE THEN IT SHOULD COME BEFORE THIS COURT AS A PROPER ELIGIBLE ACTIVITY. I KNOW THAT WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THE FUTURE. THAT'S WHY I'M READY TO GO TO BAT FOR BANKETTI FOR ANY OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT DOESN'T HAVE A SAFETY OFFICER AND THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT AND WHY IT'S

ON THERE. >> JUDGE CAN I SPEAK?

>> I'M GOING TO FINISH WITH COMMISSIONER CHESNEY AND THEN COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ WE'LL CALL ON YOU.

COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. >> MY CONCERN WITH THIS IS WE ARE NOW SETTING A PRECEDENT. IF YOU WANTED TO GIVE YOUR ARPA FUNDS TO BANKETTI SCHOOL DISTRICT AND LET THEM CREATE THIS POSITION THEN THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WROTE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH.ABOUT OTHERWISE I'M GOING TO BRING IN ALL THE OTHER RURAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS. WE'RE GOING TO START DOWN A PATH OF CREATING MONTHS WITHIN SNOOKS THANOORKZ THAT ARE IMPEDING UPON SCHOOL DISTRICTS. WE ARE THE COUNTY OF NUECES.

THE COUNTY NEEDS TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR SCHOOL KIDS.

YOU CERTAINLY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO LOOK AT ALLOCATING IT TO BEGANKETTI SCHOOL DISTRICT IF YOU WANT TO BUT TO CREATE A POSITION WITHIN NUECES COUNTY FOR ONE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS FAVORITISM TO THAT ONE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

IT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT BEING SAFE FOR ALL THE REST.

WE SHOULDN'TING GETTING INTO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S BUSINESS.

I BELIEVE THE BETTER PARTLY OF THIS A BIRTH SOLUTION WOULD BE TO TABLE IT TO ARE RECONSIDER OR TO SAY YOU WANT TO ALLOCATE YOUR FUNDS TO THE BANKETTI SCHOOL DISTRICT AND LET THEM CREATE.

THAT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE, A USE OF FUNDS THAN FOR US TO CREATE A POSITION AT NUECES COUNTY AND GET INTO THE SCHOOL BUSINESS. BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO THIS FOR BANKETTI AND NOT DO IT FOR DESCRIS COL AND PETRONEA AND ALL THESE OTHERS. KEY CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THAT ON A BASIS WE -- I'M ALL OR THE HELPING KIDS, I'M ALL OR THE SAFETY BUT GIVE THE MONEY TO BANKETTI, LET BARNKETTI CREATE THIS POSITION, LET THEM HAVE A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER THAT WOULD BE A PHENOMENAL USE BUT TO DO THIS AND CREATE A POSITION WITHIN NUECES COUNTY THAT'S A LITTLE -- YOU'RE GOING DOWN A PATH HERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TEN OR 15 MORE SCHOOL DISTRICTS COMING FORWARD AND THAT'S FINE AND I'M HAPPY TO PROBABLY THOUSAND SUPPORT MINE ON A ONE TIME BASIS BUT I'M NOT GOING TO BRING MINE IN HERE AND SAY I WANT LONDON, LET'S CREATE ONE FOR LONDON AND PORT A. I MIGHT COME BACK HERE AND SAY LET'S GIVE MONEY TO LONDON AND PORT A TO HELP SUPPORT GET A RESOURCE OFFICER WITHIN THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD SUPPORT. THIS IS TROUBLESOME TO ME BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING INTO THE SCHOOL BUSINESS NOW.

>> IF YOU WOULD ALLOW DR. JOHNSON TO SPEAK IN JUST A

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MOMENT ALTHOUGH I'M GOING TO LET COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ AND THEN COMMISSIONER MAR EASY. WE'VE BEEN ASKED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO ASSIST AND THE MONEY WOULD BE GOING TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND AN MOU WOULD BE CREATED BUT SHE CANNOT HIRE SOMEBODY OR DO THIS THROUGH AN PLOW IF THE POSITION DOES NOT EXIST. AND THERE IS A MARKED DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU'RE AN ENTITY LIKE A POLITICAL JURISDICTION THAT HAS A POLICE DEPARTMENT. YOU'RE DIFFERENT.

BANKETTI IS AN UNINCORPORATED AREA WITH NO CITY GOMPS, NO POLITICAL JURISDICTION. FORT ARANZIS HAS A POLITICAL JURISDICTION, THEY HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT, BISHOP DOES TOO, LONDON IS INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT HOWEVER THERE ARE OTHERS THAT MAY NEED TO BE ATTENDED TO BUT BAN RVETIONETTI BROUGHT THIS TO OUR ATTENTION SO YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, YOU MUST WORK WITH YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, YOU MUST HAVE MEMORANDUMS OF UNDERSTANDING, DR. JOHNSON HAS A COMPLETE PLAN AND COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ.

YOU HAD A QUESTION. >> THANK YOU JUDGE, THANK YOU.

IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION MS. JOHNSON THAT YOU ALL WERE PLANNING ON HIRING AND GETTING THIS POLICE OFFICER, BUT Y'ALL WERE GOING TO FAIR FOR IT YOURSELF.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

>> YES THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET FUNDS, IT WILL TAKE US A LITTLE BIT. WE ARE SMALL, WE ARE UNINCORPORATED. AND SO THE ONE THING I REALLY WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND HERE IS THAT 70% DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES ANYBODY TO GET THERE ON AN EMERGENCY IT'S 20 MINUTES SO I'VE JUST LOST 857 KIDS IN 20

MINUTES. >> WOULDN'T YOU RATHER HAVE SOMEONE ON YOUR CAMPUS THAT YOU WOULD HIRE?

>> THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ASKING. THAT WE --

>> BUT ASKS TOO -- >> THE AMOUNT OF WORK I DON'T HAVE THE LICENSING TO HAVE AN OFFICER.

THE AMOUNT OF WORK AND FUNDS THAT GOES INTO THAT PIECE IS RIDICULOUS FOR US TO CREATE OUR OWN PD.

FOR US TO CREATE A GUARDIAN DISTRICT, WHERE I PUT WEAPONS IN THE HANDS OF TEACHERS. HOW MANY OF YOU WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH A TEACHER AND A WEAPON IN THE CLASSROOM?

>> HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GO FORWARD, I HEARD THE SAME THING.

>> CREATING AN MOU IN A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CONSTABLES WHERE WE WOULD HAVE THAT PERSON BUT IT'S UNDER THAT LICENSING,

THAT TRAINING, THAT ALL OF IT. >> SO YOUR -- MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT Y'ALL WERE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH HIRING YOUR OWN OFFICER AND HIRING AND FUNDING YOUR OWN SITUATION.

SO IN OTHER WORDS YOU'RE SAYING AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT YOU CAN'T CREATE OFFICERS ON YOUR CAMPUS LIKE EVERY OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS? YOU'RE SAYING THAT IS NOT

POSSIBLE BECAUSE TO ME -- >> THAT IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

POSSIBILITY AND REALISM. >> THAT'S WHAT I DON'T

UNDERSTAND. >> TO ME WE ARE A VERY SMALL DISTRICT AND THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS WE GET -- INTERDON'T INTERRUPT.

>> I WAS -- >> DO NOT MEET THE NEEDS.

THE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU HAVE TO PUT INTO THAT, THAT LEADS US

CONTINUING TO BE VULNERABLE. >> OKAY, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS,

IT WOULD NOT -- >> POINT OF ORDER JUDGE.

POIFD. APPOIPOINT OF ORDER PLEASE.WE HE PRECINCT 5, WE HAVE THE CONSTABLE HIMSELF.

I WOULD SAY LET HIM EXPLAIN BEFORE WE GET INTO THE BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE THERE IS PLENTY WE WOULD LIKE TO ALL WEIGH IN ON.

WHAT ALL THIS I HAVE WEIGHED IN ON FIVE AND A HALF YEARS AS COMMISSIONERS. I KNOW BANKETTI FOR THE MOST TIME I'VE SPENT REPRESENTING AS COMMISSIONER.

NOT MORE THAN FIVE AND A HALF YEARS.

SO OKAY SO THE MORE RECENTLY, OKAY?

>> SHOW THE DYNAMICS.

>> ALL I'M SAYING IS WE ALL DESERVE TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS BUT I THINK DR. JOHNSON DESERVES TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO JUSTIFY AND EXPLAIN THEN WE CAN ALL COME BACK BECAUSE ALL YOU'RE GOING TO DO IS HOG UP THE CONVERSATION I'M TIRED OF IT ALREADY. INTERACTING AND GLEAJING ON SOMETHING THAT IS ALL I'M ASKING FOR MY POINT OF ORDER.

>> I DON'T INTERRUPT YOU WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING SO I'M ASKING --

>> YOU KILL WHATEVER YOU WANT -- >> OH JOHN --

>> LET DR. JODGES FINISH AND EXPLAIN AND LET US GO AHEAD.

>> SPEAKER UP FOR MY JUDGE WHAT? >> I JUST WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS

IS WHY I DON'T UNDERSTAND -- >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE

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SO PARTISAN COMMISSIONER, IT'S NOT ABOUT PARTISANSHIPS.

>> CAN I ASK QUESTIONS JUDGE? >> I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD.

>> THIS IS DEMOCRACY, I GET TO ASK --

>> FRANK YOU GET TO TALK ALL THE TIME PLEASE.

>> JOHN YOU GET TO TALK ALL THE TIME.

>> WHEN WOULD I GO GET A CHANCE? YOU'S HOG UP THE CONVERSATION.

>> CLARIFY THAT DR. JOHNSON, APOLOGIZE.

>> PLEASE LETS LET DR. JOHNSON FINISH AND THEN IF YOU WOULD

HOLD YOUR -- >> I JUST WANT TO HEAR PROCESS.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS EXPLAINING. >> I THINK SHE WOULD LOVE TO TELL YOU. WHY DON'T YOU HOLD, HOLD EVERYBODY'S COMMENTARY. DR. JOHNSON LET YOU FINISH.

AGAIN I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOUR CHANCE. SO COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, WE'RE

GOING TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE. >> I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> DR. JOHNSON WOULD YOU FINISH TALKING ABOUT THE PROCESS BECAUSE AGAIN THE AGENDA ITEM IS TO GET RELIEF USING THE COUNTY JUDGE'S FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE NOR THE FISCAL YEAR.

AND SO UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS WOULD BE GOOD.

>> CHIEF DEPUTY -- >> UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS WHY IT WAS HARD TO DO, THAT'S ALL I WAS ASKING WAS WHY IT WAS SO HARD TO DO AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR YOU TO GET THERE.

THAT'S ALL I WAS TRYING TO GET TO BEFORE I WAS POINT OF ORDER

INTERVIEWED. >> AGAIN MY NAME IS CHIEF DEPUTY MARQUEZ MARTINEZ, WITH CHIEF DEPUTY AVERAGES OFFICE.

CONSTABLE MENDOZA AND I, BROUGHT UP THIS ITEM THAT EVERY SCHOOL SHOULD HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT ON PREMISES REGARDLESS OF ITS EIGHT GUARDIAN PROGRAM, REGARDLESS IF IT'S A FULL TIME POLICE OFFICER.

WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA TO APPROACH BANKETTIISD WITH THE TI ISD WITH,WHAT WOULD IT TO HAT TIME OFFICER.

WE CAME ONE SEVERAL IDEAS AND ONE OF THEM WHEREAS AN MOU THAT BARCHKETTI ISD WOULD FUND PORTIONS OF THE POSITION AND CONSTABLE PRECINCT KNIFE WOULD 5 WOULD BETHE FULL TIME DEPUTY E SCHOOL. IS IT A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE EVERY SCHOOL WITH AN OFFICER, YES, IT'S EVERYONE'S DREAM TO HAVE AN OFFICER IN EVERY SCHOOL. NOW THE QUESTION OR THE OBJECTIVE OR THE OBSTACLE THAT WE FACE IS THE FUNDING.

YES BANKETT I ISD DID HAVE AN IDEA OF FUNDING THE POSITION, GREAT, BUT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT LONG TERM AND EXCUSE ME IF I'M OUT OF LINE BUT WE NEED TO PUT POLITICS ASIDE.

THE MOOMPLEG MAJORITY OF THE PEY SCHOOLS AND CIZ ARE A PRIORITY.

WE MOVED FORWARD WITH DR. JOHNSON.

WE SAT DOWN AND WE CAME ONE THIS IDEA OF HAVING AN MOU TO HAVE A PRECINCT 5 DEPUTY THERE ALL THE TIME.YES, THE OTHER SCHOOLS CAME UP LIKE COMMISSIONER CHESNEY WAS MENTIONING.

I KNOW LONDON HAS PLENTY OF SECURITY OFFICERS, MY KIDS GO TO LONDON, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE OVER THERE, I KNOW COACH LAUBER IS THE HEAD OF THE PROGRAM.

AS A MATTER OF FACT HE LITERALLY CALLED ME TWO MINUTES AGO, I'M SHUSH SOMETHING IS GOING ON OVER THERE BUT HE AND I ALWAYS KEEP IN TOUCH WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE SCHOOLS, HE KNOWS THE POSITION I'M IN, KNOWS THE TITLE I HAVE AND KNOWS WHAT THE VORGSES I CANNABLY. THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF HAVING A FULL TIME POLICE OFFICER ON SCHOOL CAMPUS BECAUSE WE AS LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS COULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACT ON ANYTHING THAT'S VIOLATION WITH THE STATE OF LAW OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.

GUARDIAN PROGRAMS THEY'RE WONDERFUL, DON'T GET ME WRONG BUT THEY STILL NEED LAW ENFORCEMENT TO MAKE DECISIONS IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, HFN HN FORBID WHAT HAPPENED WITH UVALDE, OR ASSAULT ON THE SCHOOL CAMPUSES.

SO WHEN DR. JOHNSON AND I GOT TOGETHER ALONG WITH CONSTABLE MENDOZA, WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GREATLY IDEA TO HAVE A PRECINCT 5 DEPUTY TO BE THERE AT THE SCHOOL ALL TIME.

HOW THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WE WERE STILL IN THE MAKING OF ALL OF THIS. YES BANKETTI DID MENTION THE FUNDING FOR ONE OR TWO YEARS. OUR HOPE AND DREAM WERE THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD SEE WHAT WE'RE, THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN US AND BANKETTI ALONG WITH ANY OTHER SCHOOL.

SO I ENCOURAGE ALL THE OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENTS IS TRY TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR TODAY IS FOR THE KIDS AND THE SCHOOLS.

>> I AGREE, THAT SO VERY TRUE SIR.

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AND I FOR ONE DO AGREE, AT THE END OF THE DAY, OUR MAIN CONCERN, RESPONSIBILITIES IS TO THE KIDS, TO THE STUDENTS.

OKAY? AND I DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE TO DENY THAT. I'M SURE THERE'S WAYS TO DO IT.

WE JUST NEED TO COME TO A CONSENSUS THAT WE ALL AGREE HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, GET IT DONE.

IT'S HAPPENING LOCALLY HERE IN THE CORPUS CHRISTI SCHOOL DISTRICT WHERE THE KIDS HAVE TAKEN GUNS TO SCHOOL.

SO IF IT'S HAPPENING HERE IT COULD EASILY HAPPEN ANYWHERE IN THE RURAL AREAS. ALL I'M SAYING IS, WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER PUT THE MEETINGS OF THE MINDS OF LIKE THE JUDGE SAYS AND SEE WHERE THIS -- HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND THIS.

WHAT I HAD HEARD IS THAT MS. JOHNSON, YOU WERE PUTTING SOMETHING TOGETHER TO WHERE BANKETTI WAS GOING TO FINANCE OR TRY TO FINANCE AND THEN ARE Y'ALL GOING TO NEED A VEHICLE? I HEARD ALSO THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE GETTING A CRUISER.

>> YES DEFINITELY. IF THIS HAPPENS, OUR INTENTION IS TO A FULL TIME PEACE OFFICER WHICH WILL BE ASSIGNED TO PRECINCT 5. PRECINCT 5 THEN WILL ASSIGN THAT OFFICER FULL TIME WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND THERE, IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THEY CAN TEAM UP AND CREATE A DARE PROGRAM.

THEY CANNOT ONLY BE AN OFFICER BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE A COUNSELOR, THEY'RE GOING TO BE A TEACHER, THEY'RE GOING TO BE PARENT TO SOME OF THESE KIDS. SO IT'S A GREAT TOOL TO HAVE FOR THE SCHOOL. YES, WE HEAR ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME AT OTHER SCHOOLS HERE LOCALLY, FLOWER BLUFF, CALT ALLEN, WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME. AS A MATTER OF FACT OUR ME SINGT IS THE ONE THAT RESPONDED TO THE CAL ISLAND INCIDENT A FEW MONTHS BACK, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT TOOK PLACE BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU WITH CERTAINTY THAT THERE IS PROBABLY ONE OR TWO STUDENTS HERE AT BANK ETTI SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT DO TAKE A GUN TO SCHOOL.

NOW HAVING AN CENTER THERE THEY CAN GO TO SOMEBODY NOW, YOU KNOW, AND WE CAN ACT ON IT, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE

BENEFITS. >> I TOTAL LI AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE SAYING AND BELIEVE ME, TO ME, IT REALLY, TO ME ONE IS NEVER ENOUGH.

IF I WAS GOING TO DO SOMETHING I WOULD HAVE TWO OFFICERS AND SEE IF WE CAN FIND THE FUNDING FOR THAT.

>> RIGHT. >> WHILE ONE IS IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING WHO IS IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW?

>> WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE TWO. >> JUST LOOK TO IT.

I'M SERIOUS YOU KNOW? I DON'T SEE HOW SOME OF THESE SCHOOLS THEY HAVE ONE OFFICER WALKING THE HALLS CAN PROTECT ANYBODY, YOU KNOW I REALLY DIDN'T.

>> COMMISSIONER HERE IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST OBSTACLES THAT NOT ONLY BANKETTI FACES BUT ANY SCHOOL IN THE COMMUNITY, THEIR FUNDING THEIR GUCTS IS HUGE BECAUSE OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY HAVE. WE'RE LOW INCOME FAMILIES OVER THERE. SO WHEN THEY DO A BOND ELECTION HALF THE TIME IT'S EITHER SOMETHING OR NOTHING YOU KNOW? AND THEN HOW DOES THE SCHOOL DISTRICT GLO ABOUT GETTING AN OFFICER WHEN 90% OF THE PEOPLE MAY BE, YOU KNOW --

>> AND SOMETIMES THE STATE WILL ALLOW AND SOMETIMES THERE'S THE STATE ALSO GRANT THAT WILL GIVE YOU MONEYS TO HIRE.

>> AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON COLLECTIVELY AND SORRY TO INTERRUPT BUT I KNOW DR. JOHNSON IS WORKING STRONGLY WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS WITH THE EDUCATION SERVICES TO GET SOME OF THAT FUNDING BUT WE AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY AND A SCHOOL DISTRICT AND AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY WE HAVE TO THINK LONG TERM. WE HAVE TO THINK YES, CAN BANKETTI ISD FUND THIS A YEAR OR TWO POSSIBLY YES.

BUT THESE KIDS ARE OUR FUTURE THESE CHILDREN.

>> I STILL THINK, I SUPPORT WE STILL NEED TO GO TO THE TABLE TO SEE HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO TACKLE IT.

IF WE'RE GOING TO DO ONE MIGHT AS WELL DO TWO.

I STRONGARY BELIEVE THAT ONE IS NOT ENOUGH.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS I TABLED IT BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND I DIDN'T WANT TO COMMIT MYSELF TO SOMETHING THAT SAID WE SHOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENT.

YOU KNOW? AS FAR AS SUPPORTING IT, AN OFFICER AT THE SCHOOLS I SUPPORT IT 100%.

>> I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU COMMISSIONER.

AND TO TOUCH ON THAT AGAIN, I OVENS THE FINANCIAL PART OF IT, I REALLY DO. BUT HOW LONG ARE WE GOING TO SIT BACK AND LET THESE KIDS BE UNPROTECTED?

>> EXACTLY. >> WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG --

>> I GET IT, IT'S FUNDING I TOTALLY GET I.T. BUT --

>> LEGALITY ME SAY SOMETHING OFFICER.

>> YES, SIR. >> THE THING IS THE ARPA FUNDS WE CAN SAY YES TODAY BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO GET

THE FUNDS FLEX WEEK. >> THEY UNDERSTAND THAT.

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>> WE TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. >> YOU'RE INTERRUPTING THE

OFFICER. >> I'M JUST TELLING HIM, PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THEY THOUGHT THEY GET THE MONEY RIGHT AWAY.

>> PEOPLE WANT ACTION, THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT.

>> YOU HAVE TO QUALIFY FOR THE PROCESS, RIGHT?

>> I TOTALLY AGREE. >> UNDERSTAND THAT, IT COULD BE THREE MONTHS RIGHT, COULD BE A MONTH.

SO I'M JUST SAYING. RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO -- I JUST THINK WE NEED TO GO TO THE TABLE AND LOOK AT THIS AND SIGH HOW MUCH MORE WE CAN HELP YOU WITH..

>> I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH THAT. IF THIS CHECKS OUT AROUND WE HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH THIS, I UNDERSTAND THIS MAY TAKE THREE MONTHS FOUR MONTHS I UNDERSTAND THAT TOTALLY BUT OUR MAIN FOCUS IS KNOWING THE FACT THAT THESE KIDS ARE GOING TO BE LOCATED SOON IS GOING TO BE THE NUMBER ONE GOAL.

>> THEY ARE BUT I'M GOING TO TABLE MINE TO --

>> ACTUALLY CHIEF THAT IS ACTUALLY WHY THIS AGENDA ITEM IS PLACED ON. THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT.

THE AGENDA ITEM IS TO MAKE CERTAIN AND WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR ALREADY, WE HAVE A MOTION TO BE ABLE TO CREATE THE POSITION NOW. SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT.

AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE FUNDING NOW.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> AND ALLOW BANKETTI TO HAVE THE TIME IT NEEDS OVER THE NEXT ONE YEAR TO GO AHEAD ACHED LOOK FOR THAT LONG RANGE FUNDING. AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT.

AFTER THIS CONVERSATION I'M WILLING TO DO TWO YEARS OF COUNTY JUDGE ARPA FUNDS SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE UNDER PRESSURE BECAUSE IT IS PLEASURE. IN A ONE YEAR PASSES LIKE THAT.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

BUT IF YOU DON'T CREATE THE POSITION MY GOAL WAS IN PLACING IT NOW IS THAT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR THE SEMESTER, IF WE DO IT NOW, YOU DO YOUR HR YOU GET ALL YOUR PROTOCOLS, THE MOU, YOU HAVE ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS.

>> YEX. >> WE CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN BY THE INTERCESSION, THE BREAK WHEN THEY GET THE BREAK.

IF WE MAKE IT FAST AND FURIOUS WE CAN MAKE IT AFTER THANKSGIVING. BUT YOU HAVE GOT TO WORK NOW.

WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING HERE SUCCESSFULLY THE FIVE OF US IS PLACING AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US BUT SOMETIMES ONE OF US MAY HAVE THE FUNDING.

AGAIN MY HOPE IS THAT THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, WE COULD MAKE THIS A DECISION TO GO ALL THE WAY IN THE COURT BUT FOR NOW TO GIVE THEM TIME TO THINK BIT.

I'M READY TO DO THE ONE NOW WITH CJ FUNDING AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO VOTE ON TODAY. AND AGAIN, IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO TWO, LIKE COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ SAYS I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO RAISE MY HAND AND SAY YES, THE COURT'S BUDGET YOU KNOW CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT TOO.

BUT I AGREE WITH YOU SOME OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE BETTER EQUIPPED BECAUSE OF THEIR OWN INTERNAL FUNDING THAN OTHERS.

>> IF IT TAKES TWO I'LL HELP WITH MY PA FUNDS AND SO WILL

COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. >> THAT IS WHAT --

>> WE HAVE $5 MILLION OF CONTINGENCIES I'LL RESIGNED YOU.

>> I WAS TRYING TO GO, I GOT INTERRUPTED.

>> STILL TRYING TO TALK MYSELF. YOU'RE ASKING QUESTIONS I HAVEN'T HAD MY CHANCE TO TALK BUT I'LL WAIT.

>> I APPRECIATE I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FINISH YES.

>> SAVE THE BEST FOR LAST. >> I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST ONE IF I'M BANKETTI SCHOOL DISTRICT I WOULD THINK THIS THE LONG RUN YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE A POLICE FORCE AT SOME POINT RIGHT YOUR OWN FORCE RIGHT? I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS SO IF THERE'S OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ARE IN THIS SAME BOX OR THIS SAME BIND THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE DOING IT NOT ONLY FOR BANKETTI BUT OPENING IT UP FOR OTHERS, PET RONEA DRISCOLL I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WORK.

>> I'M CONCERNED WITH THOSE AS WELL.

>> OSA HAS A MARSHAL. >> THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING I'M SAYING, PLUS I DON'T KNOW WE'VE GOT LEGAL LIABILITY ISSUES THAT I'D STILT LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY ON WHEN WE HAVE MOUS FROM THE ATTORNEY WE HAVE GOT TO ADDRESS THAT, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. THIS IS NOT ABOUT NOT WANTING TO DO IT. THERE ARE SO MANY QUESTIONS THAT ARE UNANSWERED. I WAS GOING TO TALK TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, TEXTED HER, SAYING WHERE ARE WE ON THIS? THERE IS SO MUCH WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS.

I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT AND DO IT ACCREDITATION THE BOARD IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS AS PART OF A STOP -- ACROSS THE BOARD, IN THEY DON'T HAVE A POLICE FORT OR DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY BUT THEN COULD KIND OF START COULD GIVE YOU THE TIME TO GO GET THAT PUT IN PLACE BECAUSE THAT TAKES TIME.

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IF I'M GOING TO BANKETTI I WOULD LIKE TO LET IT GROW, IF WE NEED TO FUND IT GIVE ALL MONEY, NO OBSERVES, YOU ARE ALL GOOD CONSTABLES, BUT I'M TRYING TO BRING UP A STRUCTURE THAT WORKS LONG TERM, POLICE FORCE TO HELP FUND THEM AND DO IT FOR ALL SCHOOL DISTRICTS IF THAT'S THE CASE, ACROSS THE BOARD, IT GIVES YOU TIME TO PUT THE PAPERWORK IN AND DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO AND MOVE FORWARD. THAT'S ALL I WAS GOING IS MAYBE WE DO THERE MORE ACROSS THE BOARD AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE -- WE ALL PITCH IN A PORTION OF YOUR FUNDS.

>> DR. JOHNSON YOU WESH GOING TO ANSWER.

>> YES, UNFORTUNATELY THAT IS NOT A REALITY.

I'M A VERY SMALL DISTRICT. YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE SUPERINTENDENT. , TECHNOLOGY.

CURRICULUM. BILLING AND OPERATION.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME DOING IT ALL.

I DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO DO THAT.

WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT BUT WE DON'T HAVE STAFF.

I DON'T HAVE STAFF TO CREATE A DEPARTMENT.

>> CAN WE ASSIST WITH THAT? CAN WE ASSIST -- IN OTHER WORDS

WE'RE TRYING TO GET YOU -- >> YOU WOULD BE FUNDING A

POSITION. >> IF IT GETS YOU TO THE PLACE OF BEING ABLE TO INDEPENDENTLY PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY WITH YOUR OWN POLICE FORCE, KIND OF ON A ONE TIME BASIS THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THAT'S WHAT I'M --

>> I BELIEVE THEY STILL HAVE TO WORK UNDER --

>> I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I DON'T KNOW.

I KNOW ALL THE OTHER -- >> THERE IS NO CITY GOVERNMENT.

>> I'M GOING TO LET COMMISSIONER MAREZ WEIGH IN AND THEN CONSTABLE MENDOZA CAN ALWAYS BACK THAT UP BUT YOU'VE BROUGHT TO US DR. JOHNSON THE EFFICIENT WAY, THE QUICKEST WAY TO PROTECT THESE CHILDREN THAT YOU HAVE TO WATCH OVER.

THAT YOU'VE BEEN ENTRUSTED TO WATCH OVER.

AND THAT EFFICIENT WAY IS THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT YOU'VE GONL THROUGH WITH THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE AND CHIEF MARTINEZ OFFICE. OKAY.

NOT JOHN, COMMISSIONER MAREZ. >> DIFFERENT JOHN.

NO I'D RATHER HERE FROM CONSUBSTANTIAL.

>> OKAY. >> LET HIM SPEAK AND THEN WE CAN COMMENT. EITHER IN FAVOR OR AGAINST.

>> OKAY. TO ANSWER CUSTOMERS CHESNEY'S QUESTION, WHY DON'T THEY HAVE THEIR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHY NOT, AS FAR AS THE APPLICATION TO GET AN I.D. FROM THE COMMISSION, THE TICO, TEXT COMBINED LAW ENFORCEMENT, COMMISSION, IT'S A LENGTHY PROCESS.

COST A LOT OF MONEY AND IT'S SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN ANNUALLY. COMMUNICATIONS, YOUR RADIOS, A BUDGET TO MAINTAIN A POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I SD OFF DUTY LAW ENFORCEMENT WORKING THERE.

TELOSO MIDWAY, SAME THING, YOU HAVE OFF DUTY POLICE OFFICERS WORKING THERE, CCISD, IT IS A BIG DISTRICT, THEY HAVE A TAX BASE TO MAINTAIN THEIR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY ENCOUNTERED THAT IS VERY HARD TO BUDGET ESPECIALLY A DISTRICT OF THAT SIZE.

THOUSAND THEY HIRE POLICE OFFICERS THEY WOULD BE UNDER US BECAUSE THEY FALL UNDER OUR AGENCY NUMBER.

AS FAR AS THE RADAR? BODY CAMERAS, ALL THAT'S MONEY, IT'S QUITE A BIT TO START UP JUST TO HAVE AN OFFICER THERE AT THE DISTRIBUTE. -- THE DISTRICT.IF WE CAN GET E ARPA OPPORTUNITIES FOR TWO YEARS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND THEN WE CAN IRON OUT THE DETAILS WITH THE COUNTY AND THE DISTRICT, THAT WILL WORK, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S JUST GETTING IT

STARTED. >> IF WE CAN GET IT DONE FOR TWO YEARS THAT WILL BUY YOU SOME TIME.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> TO WORK WITH HOW YOU WANT TO GET IT DONE AND ALSO WE CAN HAVE SOME INPUT EITHER WAY.

BUT I'M JUST WONDERING CONSTABLE HOW DOES THE MARSHAL DEAL WORK

WITH? >> THEY HIRED A THIRD MARSHAL OUT THERE AND THAT IS FUNDED BY THE WYATT RANCH.

>> SORRY? >> THE WYATT RANCH.

>> OH. >> SO SO THEY BUDGETED THE WHOLE

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PHARMACIST OF AGO AWAY LUCE. >> COMING BACK TO YOUR CASE I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA, WE GIVE YOU TWO YEARS, GIVE YOU TIME TO RECOUP AND YOU KNOW GET THINGS DONE, THAT IS HOW THE DISTRICT CAN GET IT DONE SEE IF IT WORKS, AND GET INPUT.

APPRECIATE THAT. >> IF THAT'S OKAY TO SET ASIDE AN AMOUNT IN CASE WE GET ADDITIONAL REQUESTS SO THAT AGAIN NOT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY.

BUT WE JUST PUT AN AMOUNT OUT THERE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT AMOUNT THAT WE SUGGESTED IF COMMISSIONER MAREZ HAS ANOTHER AMOUNT OR SOMEBODY HAS AN AMOUNT OUT OF THE CONTINGENCY FUNDS.

IT MAY BE ONLY BANKETTI. >> I HEAR YOU THAT AND HONOR THAT IN JUST ONE SECOND BUT LOOKS LIKE CHIEF WOULD LIKE TO

SAY ONE MORE THING. >> I'D LIKE TO BRING IN CHIEF, TO ANSWER COMMISSIONER CHESNEY'S AND IS ABOUT WHY NOT FUND A POLICE DEPARTMENT. I KNOW CONSTABLE MENDOZA TOUCHED ON IT. LONDON ISD, I WAS APPROACHED BY LONDON ISD BARK WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY WARRANTED TO START A POLICE DEPARTMENT. I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT.

THE REASON IT DIDN'T GET FUNDED OR DIDN'T HAPPEN IS THEY GOT WHAT WE CALL AN ORI NUMBER WHICH IS AN ORIGINATING NUMBER, A T ERCHLTCO NUMBER. THEY HAD THEIR POLICIES IN PLACE AND EVERYTHING BUT THE ONE THING THEY LACKED AND THEY DIDN'T REMEMBER THEY FORGET IS THEY NEEDED WHAT WE CALL A REPEATER FOR THE TOWER OF THE RADIOS. THEY WERE TRYING TO.

YES, THEY GOT AN ESTIMATE, IT WAS GOING TO BE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR JUST A REPEATER TOWER JUST TO BE INSTALLED BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW LAW ENFORCEMENT, THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE BEEN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, THOSE OF YOU IN FAMILY REINFORCEMENT SOME OF THOSE RADIOS DON'T EVEN WORK IN THE AREA. THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL COST TO PUT A TOWER IN THAT AREA WHICH IS THE BANKETTI AREA, THAT ALONE COSTS ANNAL UNGODLY AMOUNT OF MONEY.

I WOULD LOVE TO BRING IN MARISSA, SHE WILL EXPLAIN HOW THE RURAL COMMUNITY AND TOUCH MORE AND ANSWER SOME OF THE

QUESTIONS THAT YOU Y'ALL HAVE. >> MARISSA, WELCOME.

>> GOOD MORNING, GLAD TO SEE ALL OF YOU.

PETE AND I, MOST OF YOU KNOW PETE TREVINO, MY HUSBAND HERE.

WE HELP WITH GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS, GRANT WRITING ANY OTHER STRATEGIC MOVES THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. WHEN DR. JOHNSON BROUGHT IT TO OUR ATTENTION WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA.

WE RESIDE IN BEMBOLT, A SMALL 1A SCHOOL DISTRICT, WE ALSO ARE NOT INCORPORATED. WE RELY ON THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE A DEPUTY AT OUR SCHOOL.

WE HAVE THAT. IF WE EVER FEEL WE NEED AN EXTRA DEPUTY ON HAND THE SHERIFF PROVIDES THAT FOR US.

IF THERE ARE EVENTS OR ANYTHING COMING UP THAT MIGHT NEED OTHER SECURITY. SO DR. JOHNSON IS NEW TO BANKETTI AND INHERITED THIS RIGHT AFTER THE UVALDE SHOOTING.

WE KNOW THAT THE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS HAVE INCREASED SINCE 2017 TO 2021, 96%. AS SHE MENTIONED IT'S A 20 TO 30 MINUTE RESPONSE TIME TO BANKETTI WHICH IS MAJOR.

70% OF THESE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS OCCUR THE FIRST FIVE MINUTES AND INCIDENTS OVER, THE OTHER 30% IN TWO MINUTES.

SO THIS IS JUST VALUABLE TIME, LIKE JUDGE SAID, YES THERE MIGHT BE OTHER RESOURCES OUT THERE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HELPING THE DISTRICT WITH. THAT'S WHY THEY BROUGHT US IN.

BUT IT WON'T BE NO. THE 2023 UN3 FUNDING.

THERE ARE DIFFERENTLY GRANTS TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM OTHER THAN FOR THE BALLISTIC SHIELDS, WE'RE HELPING ANOTHER CITY FOR THAT BUT THAT FUNDING WILL COME INTO PLAY SOONER OR LATER. SO IF YOU WOULD BE GRACIOUS TO GRANT US AT LEAST TWO YEARS, AS WE SEARCH FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING, OR THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS, I THINK TOGETHER WE CAN ALL WORK HAND IN HAND AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE THIS A SUCCESSFUL PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES MIGHT WANT TO MODEL.

YOU KNOW? I THINK THIS IS GREAT THAT MOST OF YOU ARE ALL ON BOARD OR ACTUALLY ALL OF YOU IT SEEMS ARE ON BOARD. AND I THINK YOU'RE PUTTING THE CHILDREN FIRST AND THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL ARE HERE TO DO SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE PETE TO

SPEAK FOR A SECOND. >> THANK YOU.

WELCOME. >> THANK YOU JUDGE, THANK YOU AND I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR TAKING THE INITIATIVE.

BECAUSE THESE ARE VERY TOUGH TOUGH DISCUSSIONS TO BE HAVING NOW ESPECIALLY AT THIS TIME. BEING A PREVIOUS COUNTY JUDGE AND UNDERSTANDING THE MANAGEMENT RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

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RESPONSE TIMES COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ TO YOU, THUMBS UP FOR YOU RECOMMENDING TWO. YOU'RE RIGHT.

SOMEBODY'S IN THE TRONT, SOMEBODY'S IN THE BACK, WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON. BUT THE MAIN THING RIGHT THOUSAND IS THAT I REALLY REALLY WANT TO YOU FOCUS ON IS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TAKING CARE OF THE STUDENTS RIGHT NOW.

SO I ASK YOU GUYS AND I ALREADY HEAR SOME GOOD CONVERSATIONS BUT I ASK YOU GUYS PLEASE PLEASE, COME TO THE FOREFRONT.

BE ASSERTIVE AND TAKE THE ACTION BECAUSE THEY REALLY, REALLY NEED YOUR HELP. THANK YOU GUYS.

>> COMMISSIONER -- >> JUDGE, I THINK THERE'S A GREAT FIX HERE IS REALLY HIRE LIKE AS SOON AS YOU CAN, OFF

DUTY POLICE OFFICERS. >> YES NO KIDDING.

>> TO START DOING THE JOB. BECAUSE IT'S A CONTRACT, RIGHT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL THAT EXTRA STUFF.

BUT IF YOU CAN HIRE OFF DUTY OFFICERS RIGHT NOW, THAT WILL BE A QUICK FIX RIGHT? EVERYBODY HAS CONTRACT OFFICERS THAT GO TO ALL THE SCHOOLS. I THINK THAT WILL BE A QUICK FIX

RIGHT NOW. >> ONE OF -- WE DO.

WE PARTNER WITH THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE THE MARSHALS.

SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND HAVE THEM IN THERE.

WE CAN'T ALWAYS GET THEM. AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT EXTRA FUNDING, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THE STATE TO PUSH IN FUNDING, SO THAT WE CAN DO THAT.

>> THIS IS WHERE WE COME IN MA'AM, THIS IS WHERE WE --

>> YES. >> SO I'D LIKE TO BRING US BACK HOME. I THINK SHE UNDERSTANDS HER SCHOOL AND THE NEEDS OF HER SCHOOL VERY WELL.

I THINK THAT WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS GET US BACK HOME.

BECAUSE WE HAVE THE -- AN AGENDA ITEM AND IT IS VERY SPECIFIC.

AND YOU CAN ALWAYS, NEXT COURT, BRING IN A SECONDARY ONE, OR WE CAN ADD THEM HERE NOW. BUT IT IS THE CREATION OF A DEPUTY CONSTABLE POSITION FOR PRECINCT 5.

TO SERVE AS A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER.

AND SO, AND AS WELL AS ALLOCATING AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT. MY INTENTION WAS TO DO THAT OUT OF MY ALLOCATION. WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT, AND I HAVE A MOTION TO DO SO, IF YOU'RE WANTING, IF I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, YOU WISH THAT TO BE AMENDED FOR ME TO CONSIDER AMENDING THAT TO AN AMOUNT OF HALF A MILLION DOLLARS TO COVER POTENTIALLY MULTIPLE SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ARE RURAL, THAT FIND THEMSELVES IN THE SAME, SIMILAR SITUATION. AND THAT YOU WISH THAT TO BE IN THE CONTINGENCY BUCKET, THOUGHT THE CJ'S BUCKET.

AND IF I HEAR YOU DIFFERENTLY, ALL YOU HAVE TO SAY IS NO OR YES. I DON'T WANT TO DEBATE IT.

>> YOU HEAR ME, THAT'S CORRECT, YES.

>> ALL RIGHT SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION AS THEY SAY AND IT'S TO BOTH CREATE A DEPUTY CONSTABLE POSITION FOR PRECINCT 5, TO BE SERVING FOR BANKETTI AS A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER AND THAT THE FUNDING COME FROM THE TOTAL ALLOCATION OF HALF A MILLION DOLLARS WHICH IS MORE THAN YOU NEED BUT IT WILL COME FROM THAT BUCKET AND THAT IS FROM OUR CONTINGENCY AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUND THAT THE COUNTY HAS AND I'LL LOOK FOR A SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> JUDGE MAY I JUST -- >> YES HANG ON.

AND THEN WE CAN ALWAYS WORK ON OTHERS, SCHOOL DISTRICTS OR OTHER AREAS, AT ANOTHER AGENDA WHERE WE CAN HAVE RESOURCE EXPERTS. WHO HAD THE QUESTION, MAREZ?

COMMISSIONER MAREZ. >> I'D LIKE TO COMMENT.

>> SORRY NOT QUESTION. >> SO LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ALL IN ORDER AND I AGREE WITH THE STATEMENTS THAT WERE MADE.

APPRECIATE MARISSA AND JUDGE TREVINO FOR BRINGING THIS HOME FOR US. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT ANY ITEM THAT WE WORK ON FROM THIS MEETING FORWARD, THAT WE ALLOW THE EXPERTS OR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT.

WE DO THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.

IT'S GREAT TO HEAR WHAT THE INITIAL REACTION IS BUT WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME THAT ENDS UP THAT CAN BE CLARIFIED BY THE EXPERTS THAT WE HAVE COMMUTING BEFORE US.

I HOPE WE WOULD DO THAT IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE DR. JOHNSON YOU KNOW, CHIEF, Y'ALL HAD A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION ALREADY, HAD WE JUST WAITED INSTEAD OF THE INITIAL GUT REACTION TO RUSH TO JUDGMENT ON WHAT THIS WAS OR WASN'T.

I THINK A LOT OF THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN CLARIFIED ALREADY.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT WE AS A BODY CAN DO THAT IN THE FUTURE.

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I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT WE ARE ALL ON BOARD BECAUSE I'LL TELL YOU INITIAL GUD REACTION WOULD HAVE BEEN THAT IT WAS NOT THE ENTIRE COURT WAS ON BOARD. OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE REASONS TO ASK THAT IT BE TABLEDUSC-JJSC109

>> TALKING ABOUT OTHER ISSUES DESIGNING THEIR OFFICE REDESIGNING THEIR OFFICE HAPPEN TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ALL OF THIS OTHER STUFF, WHAT THE REASONING WAS IT WASN'T POLITICS IT WAS CHILDREN'S SAFETY.

SO I THINK THAT IS THE RUSH TO GET THIS DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE ONE DAY GOD FOR BID, WE HAVE TO GET THIS DONE QUICKLY I LOVE THE IDEA OF PUTTING THIS TOGETHER WITH ONE OR TWO YEAR FUNDING TO DECIDE IS THERE FUNDING OR CAN SEEK OUT OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT CAN COVER THAT COST.

THIS IS KIND OF RIGHT NOW TO BE ABLE TO COVER THAT ISSUE OF SAFETY CONTINUOUS SAFETY THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL YEAR SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE AT WHERE WE SHOULD BE I AGREE WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE OTHER PRECINCTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY ALL OF THE OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT MAY BE LACKING AS WELL. ONE REALLY DO NOT HAVE ANY COVERAGE AT ALL OTHER THAN DOCTOR JOHNSON THE OUTSIDE HIRING OFFICERS THAT WOULD COME IN TEMPORARILY SO I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS WE NEED TO APPROVE THIS HOPEFULLY WITHIN A BETTER PLAN, I AGREE WE CANNOT FIND EVERYTHING BUT I THINK WE CAN FIND THINGS IN THE SHORT TERM BECAUSE NOTHING IS GUARANTEED. WE NEED TO CUT BACK FUNDING, AT LEAST THE FUNDING, I AGREE I HEAR WHAT SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COURT ARE SAYING IS YES WE CANNOT FUND THIS WE SHOULD NOT THINK YOU REALIZE OBVIOUSLY THE FACT YOU WERE SEEKING OUT GRANTS OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL THIS IS HELPING EXACTLY WHAT COUNTY GOVERNMENT IS ABOUT EXACTLY WHY COUNTY GOVERNMENT IS GIVEN FUNDING TO GO ACROSS THE BOARD, ALL DIFFERENT AREAS.

DURING COVID-19 GETTING KIDS THE ACCESS TO TECHNOLOGY WHO HAD NO WAY TO DO DISTANCE LEARNING, DID NOT EVEN HAVE WI-FI CAPABILITY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN ONCE AGAIN TO FILL THOSE GAPS FOR ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING TODAY. TO FILL THAT GAP MAKE PLANS FOR DOWN THE ROAD, HOW IT DEVELOPS BUT I THINK THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS WAS INTENDED FOR. WE THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS WE KNOW EVERYTHING GETS WELL PLANNED OUT, BEST INTENTIONS MAY BE TAKE TIME TO VISIT WITH THE REST OF THE COURT SO THEY UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE ASKING.

YOU ALL HAVE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT AND EFFORT INTO THIS.

SHARING TWO AREAS. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR WORKING WITH US.ECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT THE PASSION IS WE ARE FEARFUL FOR OUR KIDS EVERY SINGLE DAY.

THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. >> I AM A PHONE CALL AWAY.

INCLUDED EARLIER, I AM ALL FOR THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN.

OUR CHILDREN COME FIRST. I VALUE YOUR OPINION SO ANYTIME YOU HAVE CONCERNS GIVE ME A CALL I WOULD LIKE TO BE

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INVOLVED. >> ONE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO DO A CLARIFICATION. WE WANT TO AMEND TO TWO YEARS.

>> INCLUDING THE UNIT FOR THE OFFICER?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION ON SOMETHING DO YOU MIND COMING FORWARD? I DO NOT HAVE THAT NOTICED WHY DON'T WE BRING THAT BACK ON THE 19TH SO I CAN GET DISCUSSIONS I KNOW FOR A FACT THROUGH SOME OF OUR GRANTS, BASICALLY GIVE US BODY CAMERA I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE PACKAGE WHICH INCLUDES THE VEHICLE WHY DON'T WE BRING THAT BACK SEPARATELY THE 19TH A CHANCE TO BUDGET IT CORRECTLY.

BODY CAMERA, HELPED ME OUT. >> THAT WAY I CAN SEE IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING I CAN DO. LET'S WORK TOGETHER FOR THE

NEXT TIME. >> ABSOLUTELY WE WILL GET

EVERYTHING TOGETHER. >> TO ASK FOR THAT BUDGET SEPARATELY IT GIVES THE COURT A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL OF THOSE SIGNIFY BY

SAYING I. >> I.

>> YOU WILL SEE THAT COME BACK TO COURT AT A LATER DATE.

WE WILL ASK FOR YOU. TO WORK MORE SWIFTLY ON THOSE

AGREEMENTS. >> PLENTY OF TIME I WILL GET YOU THE NUMBERS THAT YOU NEED THE UNIT.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS PROBABLY ARE WE GOING TO GO WITH THE

RENTAL ENTERPRISE. >> WE NEED TIME TO WORK TOGETHER ON THAT. AT LEAST YOU KNOW NOW THAT WE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD ON THE WRITING.

HOW THAT GOES.>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU. >> I MENTIONED PURCHASING, ALL THE NUMBERS AS FAR AS BODY CAMERA.

EVERYTHING. I WILL GET WITH HIM ON THAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU, CHIEF.

>> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOU. I AM DOUBLE CHECKING HERE I AM GOING TO GO BACK INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA MOVES STRAIGHT TO BOB. WITH REGARDS TO BOB LETTING YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE ON DECK FOR THE NEXT WAVE OF ACTION CONSENT

[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]

AGENDA ITEMS A THROUGH W ANYONE'S THAT NEED TO BE REMOVED FOR CLARIFICATION? P, Q, R, T, ONLY SO WE CAN TALK

ABOUT THEM I WILL PULL V AND W. >>.

>> TO APPROVE THE REMAINDERS. >> THAT WOULD BE FOR THE CLERK

A THROUGH O. >> A THROUGH O, THEN THE LETTER

S. >> ANY DISCUSSION?

SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> I.

>> TAKE THEM IN ORDER. YOU PULLED P AND Q WHICH ARE

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RELATED. >> IN JUST ONE SECOND.

>> I WILL HAVE TO UNDO IT. >> WE TALK OF WOMACK.

>> TO PULL I FOR DISCUSSION. >> SEE IF WE HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE A MORE EFFICIENT WAY.

>> SIGNIFY. >> I.

[I. Approve outstanding invoices for Professional Services for the Texas Water Development Grant drainage project.]

>> OPPOSED. >> ON RIGHT I BEFORE WE WILL TAKE IT ALPHABETICAL WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION REGARDING THESE

INVOICES? >> WHY ARE WE COMING TO THE COURT? IT HAS BEEN APPROVED.

WENT THROUGH THE COUNTY AUDITORS.

>> HOW DO WE GET INVOICES ON THERE?

>> WHAT ARE THESE REFERRING TO? IS THIS MAKING MAC.

>> SO THEY COME THROUGH HERE WE SEEM TO KEEP.

>> WHO ARE THEY SUBMITTED BY TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.

>> PUBLIC WORKS FOR APPROVAL. >> WE DO NOT GET THEM UNTIL THEY ARE APPROVED BY THE DEPARTMENT.

>> OKAY. >> ONCE THEY APPROVE THEY MUST BE SUBMITTED FOR PROCESSING AND PAYMENT.

>> APPROVED. >> THAT WAS MY QUESTION.>> WHERE IS THIS GETTING PAID FROM TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.

>> TRI-COUNTY GRANT. GRANT FUNDS.

>> THIS PARTICULAR FUNCTION, WE BROUGHT THIS BUDGET UP.

PART OF THE FUNDS WERE PAID. >> THIS IS FOR SUSAN WE PAY

HER. >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> IT WAS BROUGHT BACK TO ANOTHER CONTRACT APPROVED BY

COURT. >> 75, 25 GRANT OUR PORTION WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS WITH SCOTT OUR PORTION, COMES

FROM THEIR. >> ANOTHER 25 PERCENT.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU.

>> WILL YOU MOVE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

[P. Approve personal services agreement with Iain Vasey related to economic and community development and military base preparedness programs and initiatives.]

[Q. Approve personal services agreement with John LaRue related to economic and community development and military base preparedness programs and initiatives.]

>> LETTER P. >> JUST THE CONTRACTS THAT WE

NEVER SIGNED. >> NOT THAT THEY WERE NOT APPROVED, IT NEEDS TO COME TO COURT AND APPROVE THEM.

>> THE FUNDING ISSUE ON THIS. I WAS GOING TO DEAL WITH IT HERE. NEGATIVE BALANCE, WE DO NOT

HAVE ANY MONEY IN THIS ACCOUNT. >> IN THE RED SOMEHOW.

>> IS THERE DOLLARS IN THIS ACCOUNT?

>> THEY HAVE NOT FUNDED THEIR CONTRACT.

>> THROUGH 23. >> THE FUND BALANCE ISN'T

SHOWING. >> THEY ARE GOING TO PAY US.

STILL WE NEED TO DISCUSS HOW WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE FUNDING

THIS. >> HOW MUCH IS THE ONLY PAYMENT

TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. >> 3000.

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> WE NEED TO COLLECT ON.

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>> THE MONEY, POSITIVE BALANCE OF 10,000.

10,000. >> I WAS GOING TO PUT THESE

WITH NUMBER 21. >> LET'S DO THE SEPARATELY.

>> KEEP GOING THROUGH CONSENT. >> JUST SO YOU KNOW THESE ARE

THE OLD ONES. >> UNTIL 21.

[R. Approve rescinding Amendment No. 4 between Nueces County and HireQuest LLC dba Snelling as approved on August 17, 2022; approve revised no cost Amendment No. 4 between Nueces County and HireQuest LLC dba Snelling providing for FEMA requirement contract provisions.]

>> LETTER R. >> I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT

THIS. >> BEFORE YOU TABLE JUST ASK WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS SUFFICIENT REASON IF YOU WILL

READ YOUR BACKUP ON THIS ONE. >> THERE IS NO CONTRACT HERE.

LET ME EXPLAIN. WHY WE CANNOT EXPLAIN THIS TO COMMISSIONERS BEFOREHAND IT IS VERY FRUSTRATING.

OBVIOUSLY THIS IS AN ITEM FOR EXAMPLE THOSE CONTRACTS HAVE COME TO THIS COURT MULTIPLE TIMES TO CORRECT LANGUAGE SO FEMA CAN HAVE LANGUAGE THEREFORE WHEN WE GET REQUESTS WHEN WE SUBMITTED TO FEMA THEY SENT US INFORMATION, WHAT THEY DO IS THE CONTRACT YOU SIGNED WAY BACK WHEN NEEDS TO HAVE CERTAIN FEMA LANGUAGE. IDENTIFY LANGUAGE THAT GOES BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES.

>> NOT IN OUR BACKUP. >> YOU MAKE A COMMENT, READ YOUR BACKUP I DID READ MY BACKUP.

>> NO NEW CONTRACT HERE.>> IT IS BOTHERSOME.

WHAT DO YOU JUST SAID IT IS NOT IN THE BACKUP.

THIS EXHIBIT A NO EXPLANATION AT ALL.

>> ON COURT ADMINISTRATION. >> IT COMES THROUGH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT THROUGH COURT ADMINISTRATION GOES THROUGH

EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE. >> TO FULFILL THE REQUESTS OF FEMA REQUIRES ALTERING THE CONTRACTS SOMETHING WE HAVE DONE, EVERY TIME IT GETS TWEAKED IT HAS TO COME BACK TO COURT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHED LIGHT HERE?

>> THE BACKUP WAS ONE OF THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD NOT COMPLETE ITEMS THE ONE YOU HAVE NOW SHOULD BE THE MOST CORRECT.

>> IT WAS GIVEN AS A SUPPLEMENT.

>> IT WAS SENT LATER IN TIME. >> ALL THAT I GOT WAS AN

AMENDMENT AND EXHIBIT. >> CAN YOU HELP CLARIFY THIS IS

NOT A NEW CONTRACT. >> SUMMARY OF WHAT THIS IS IN THIS AGENDA ITEM BECAUSE I HAVE 1400 PAGES OF BACKUP SO I START SCRAMBLING TRYING TO FIND SOMEBODY WHO CAN TELL ME WHAT THIS IS ABOUT I CANNOT GET THERE.

IT DOESN'T TELL ME NO SUMMARY. >> SUMMARY BY EMERGENCY

MANAGEMENT. >> AGENDA ITEM RESPONSIBLE TO SUBMIT THIS SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND IT, WHAT THIS IS.

AS I SIT HERE TODAY, ARE YOU TELLING US THIS IS OKAY TO DO?

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THAT YOU HAVE REVIEWED THIS, SUFFICIENT TO DO THIS.

>> AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE LAST ONE GIVEN TO TARA, THAT IS

CORRECT. >> TO MEET THESE PROVISIONS.

>> SO THE REIMBURSEMENT CAN HAPPEN.

>> IN YOUR OPINION THIS IS SUFFICIENT AND READY TO GO.

>> YES. >> I WANT TO GO BACK TO I.

>> IN JUST A SECOND. >> TRYING TO FINISH UP THE R

OKAY. >> MAKE MOTION TO PASS THAT.

>> SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> THE NEXT ONE LET'S KEEP GOING BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION WE WILL GET THAT BACK

[T. Approve recommendation received from Nueces County Animal Services (NCAS) Advisory Committee regarding termination of a board member pursuant to the Committee's bylaws.]

ALREADY VOTED ON IT TWICE LETTER T.

>> GAVE US A SECOND. >> TO TABLE THIS BASED ON THE FACT THIS SHOULD BE INCLUDED. DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE TAKEN.

>> ANY OTHER ACTION? >> I ASKED ABOUT THIS ONE ILLEGALLY, WHEN THE BOARD TAKES ACTION IT NEEDS TO COME TO

COMMISSIONERS COURT. >> STILL RATIFIED, ACTED ON BY

THE COURT. >> DO NOT WANT TO ACT ON THE

BOARDS. >> CONTINUE TO BE ON THE BOARD, NO ACTION TAKEN ON THIS. WHICH I AM STUNNED ABOUT, THEY CAN KICK PEOPLE OFF THE BOARD, THAT IS STAGGERING TO ME.

I DO NOT EVEN KNOW IF THEY ARE VALID.

>> THEY BRING THE RECOMMENDATION.

>> THAT IS WHY IT IS ON HERE. >> UNDERSTANDING AT ONE POINT

WE HAVE VERIFIED THAT. >> OKAY.

LET'S TABLE. FORGIVE ME 30 DAYS IS ADEQUATE.

>> WHEN IS SHE GOING TO DO THAT?

>> JUST CHOOSE A DATE. >> WITH WHAT THE MOTION WAS.

>> THAT IS YOUR TIMETABLE. >> THIS IS REGARDING LETTER T THE ANIMAL BOARD. A TABLE WE WERE LOOKING FOR A DATE REFLECTS BACK TO WHEN YOU WERE GOING TO DO YOUR FINAL

ANALYSIS. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

>> TABLING IT, IT STAYS ON THE BOARD.

[U. Approve the proposed 2023 Nueces County Holiday Calendar.]

>> THE NEXT ONE TO DISCUSS MAYBE HAVE OPEN CONVERSATION

ABOUT THE CALENDAR. >> WE MATCHED THE HOLIDAY

SCHEDULE. >> DO NOT WANT TO DO THAT.

>> SOME SERVICES, IT WAS LIKE A GHOST TOWN.

THOUGHT WE WERE ALREADY OFF. BARRY FEW PEOPLE HERE.

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THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY MOTION TO MATCH THE FEDERAL HOLIDAYS I DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH BUSINESS WE CAN GET DONE.

MAIL SERVICE ALSO SHUT DOWN TODAY.

TO AVOID ANY CONFUSION. >> HOW WOULD THAT COMPARE AMINE JUST AS FAR AS, WHICH ONE? HE WOULD KEEP ALL OF OURS THEN

ADD ANY OTHER FEDERAL. >> BRING IT BACK ON THE 19TH.

>> INDIGENOUS DAY WAS YESTERDAY.

>> TO TABLE 2 NEXT WEEK.>> TO GIVE US AN IDEA WHAT THE PRICE LOOKS LIKE. GOING TO BE A SLIGHT COST.

IF WE COULD LOOK AT THAT. >> OKAY.

>> TO TABLE UNTIL NEXT WEEK. >> SECOND.

[V. Approve replacement of Menger Elementary with Metro-E Elementary as an Election Day Vote Center for the November 8, 2022, General Election.]

>> ALL RIGHT. THEN APPROVE REPLACEMENT JUST FOR YOU TO TALK ABOUT IT A BIT FURTHER.

TELL EVERYBODY ALSO KNOWN BY THE FAMOUS NAME OF ¦

>> FORMERLY KNOWN. >> I USED TO PLAY BASKETBALL IN

THAT SWIMMING POOL. >> GO AHEAD.

>> ITEM B. >> 65 POLLING LOCATIONS.

UNDER RENOVATION. SO THEY APPROVED THIS.

TO APPROVE THE SWITCH. >> TO DO THAT.

SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. THE PUBLISHING, PUT METRO E OR

NEW ONES OUT? >> ALREADY ON THE WEBSITE.

>> IT WILL TAKE NO TIME AT ALL. >> METRO E.

>> TO HELP US PUBLISH THAT OKAY.

>> PRESS RELEASE OR SOMETHING. >> TELL EVERYBODY ABOUT YOUR

[W. Authorize the County Clerk to replace Yorktown Baptist Church with another suitable location, if one is available, to serve as an Election Day Vote Center for the November 8, 2022, General Election.]

TOWN BAPTIST AND WAS PUT ON HERE TO REPLACES BUT TELL

EVERYBODY INFORMATION. >> NO ACTION TO BE TAKING YOU ALL APPROVED ELECTION DAY CENTER.

AUGUST 29 SO WE ARE GOOD. >> WE DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE ACTION BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE REPLACING IT.

DO WE NEED A VOTE TO PASS ON THAT?

NO ACTION. >> THAT WAS APPROVED.

>> YOU WILL UPDATE EVERYTHING. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> WE WILL ADD YOUR I VOTE. ON W WE DO NOT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING. ALL RIGHT.

FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSION WHAT IS YOUR CONCERN ON A

LETTER I? >> USE IN PUBLIC WORKS APPROVED

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THOSE INVOICES?> YES. >> WAITING ON INVOICES.

>> ON THE AGENDA TODAY WERE APPROVED.

>>. >> I WILL TELL YOU WHAT, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE WHEN PUBLIC WORKS COMES IN, ALREADY APPROVED WE CAN GET SUSAN AND JUAN HERE, DATING BACK TO MAY.

>> I AM NOT SURE IF SUSAN WILL BE AVAILABLE TODAY.

>> I WAS TALKING TO HER ON ANOTHER MATTER, MAYBE NOT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE MAYBE LATER I CAN CHECK AND SEE.

>> WE NEED TO KNOW WHY BECAUSE LET'S BRING ONE IN.

WE CANNOT SEEM TO GET INVOICES DONE IN A TIMELY MATTER.

ALREADY MIDDLE OCTOBER IT IS MAY.

SEEMS TO BE A CHRONIC ISSUE. THAT IS RIGHT.

UNLESS HER INVOICES GET APPROVED.

THAT IS WHY, NOBODY GOT PAID. WE FIND OURSELVES IN THE SAME SITUATION WE WILL BRING IN HIM, WHY DON'T WE CALL HIM FOR AFTER

LUNCH. >> NOT PROPERLY APPROVED?

I DO NOT KNOW. >> WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ONE MORE ITEM. A SMALL BREAK FOR STAFF.

THAT ITEM IS AN IMPORTANT ONE. WE WILL NOT BE HAVING THIS UPDATE TODAY. THE 19TH.

>> WE ARE LOADED UP AGAIN NOVEMBER 2.

>> THE 16TH. >> BY MUTUALLY CONVENIENT.

>> JUST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY.

FROM OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOLKS.

>> I MEAN I DO NOT KNOW IF HE CAN DO THAT DATE THE 16TH OR

SOONER OKAY. >> THAT IS THE MOTION.

FOR THE COURT AND HIM. >> BE SURE AND ASK HIM ALL RIGHT MOTION DID YOU SAY A SECOND COMMISSIONER? SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. NOW MOVE TO LET ME LOOK HERE, CAN WE

TABLE NUMBER FIVE? >> WE WILL TAKE YOUR TABLE IDEA

HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. >> I ASKED ABOUT IF THEY SAID THEY WANTED TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.

I SPOKE WITH THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR, THAT WAS NOT COMING FROM THE COURT ADMINISTRATORS.

LET'S MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

BY CONSEQUENCE. >> TABLE NUMBER FIVE.

>> WHEN WE CALL FOR AN ITEM, WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION.

>> I HAVE SEVERAL I WAS GOING TO TRY TO TABLE.

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HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO THAT. >> I HAVE AN IDEA.

IF WE CAN JUST TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK OKAY FOR BATHROOM.

I WOULD LIKE TO GO ON RECORD HOW RIDICULOUS IT IS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE CARE OF OUR STAFF FOR BATHROOMS AND A LUNCH DEPARTMENT OF LABOR SITUATION THERE.

THE REVIEW THAT.>> WE HAVE TO HAVE MOTION TO RECESS.

>> FOR A BREAK LONGER THAN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.

>> THE POLICY SAYS THAT WE SHALL WORK THROUGH LUNCH OKAY.

WE SHALL WORK THROUGH LUNCH I FIND THAT AGAINST THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR STANDARDS. IT DEFIES THE WILL OF THE PRESIDING OFFICER THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME THAT BATHROOM BREAKS CAN BE FIVE MINUTES OR 15 MINUTES.

IN THAT CASE A MOTION TO TAKE A SMALL RECESS?

>> IF YOU NEED ONE. >> PLEASE GO TO THE BATHROOM.

>> BECAUSE I AM NOT GOING TO HAND THE GAVEL JUSTIFY MINUTE RECESS THANK YOU. SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. THEN WE

>> COME BACK ON THE RECORD, MOVED ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AS

PROMISED. >> SO PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE TO

HERE. >> I AM INCLINED TO HEAR ABOUT THE NUMBERS I DO NOT LIKE THE IDEA OF TABLING EIGHT PEOPLE ARE HERE AND THEY WISH TO MAKE COMMENT AND IS HARD TO TELL THEM TO LEAVE BUT THEY HAVE BEEN HERE ALL MORNING.

A NUMBER, SOMETHING. >> TELL ME WHICH ONE.

>> ITEM NUMBER THREE IS PURSUANT TO A PETITION.

THE GENTLEMAN IS, HE HAS SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT PERHAPS MORE ABOUT IT IT DOES REQUIRE ACTION BY THE COURT PURSUANT TO

THE TRANSPORTATION CODE. >> FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

REALLY CONFUSED ON HOW THIS WORKS.

THE PROCESS. >> FIRST OF ALL.

>> WE HAVEN'T MADE A TABLE YET. ANTICIPATED.

>> HE SIGNED UP FOR THE AGENDA ITEM IT IS A PUBLIC COMMENT ON

THE AGENDA ITEM. >> NO HE DID NOT.

>> IF HE WISHED TO MAKE A COMMENT HE HAS BEEN HERE ALL

MORNING. >> ASKING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR OPINION, IF AN ITEM IS TABLED I TO RIDE TO DO THIS AT THE BEGINNING, FOR QUITE A WHILE.

I CAN TABLE THEM AS THEY GO. >> I WOULD PREFER YOU DO THAT.

>> TRYING TO DO THESE TABLES FOR AN HOUR AND ONE HALF THE PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE TO SIT HERE IF YOU WANT TO WAIT, THEN PLEASE MAKE SURE THE RECORD REFLECTS YOU MADE THEM SIT HERE NOW ME. STILL TRYING TO DO IT.

>> ALWAYS DO AS A COURTESY. I WOULD AGAIN ASK.

>> TO PROVIDE A LIST SHE HAS NOT HAD THAT LIST.

>> I AM READY TO MAKE A MOTION. >> WHICH WERE THEY?

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>> FIVE. >> NINE, 16 AND 25 YES MA'AM.

>> ITEM NUMBER THREE. OKAY I CAN TELL YOU THAT NUMBER FIVE CAME ACROSS TO ME BY THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR AS BEING AN IMPORTANT ITEM MYSELF ASKED IF IT COULD BE ON ANOTHER GENDER THEY SAID IT WAS IMPORTANT WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION TODAY.

YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO DO THAT THE CIRCUMVENTION IS REALLY WHAT IS HAPPENING. IF HE WERE DOING IT FOR THE EFFICIENCY OF THE PARTY LIKE WE DID A MOMENT AGO, THAT WOULD BE

ONE THING. >> WOULD YOU AT LEAST ALLOW BEFORE WE TABLE, IF THERE IS AN IMPORTANCE TO THE WORK THAT WE DO IN THE OFFICE AT LEAST CONSIDER HEARING FROM THE

OPERATIONAL MANAGER. >> HERE IS MY ISSUE.

THE WHOLE ITEM. >> I AM ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION. QUESTIONS ON THIS THAT I HAVE THAT THE COUNTY MANAGER CANNOT ANSWER, I DO NOT BELIEVE WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE COME AND PRESENT.

TO HAVE A PRESENTATION, ACTION NEEDED THEN WHY IS THIS AN

ACTION ITEM? >> LATER ON.

>> TO TABLE. >> TO THE 19TH.

>> LET ME FINISH WITH SOME SORT OF EXPLANATION, TO WHY THIS IS NEEDED BEFORE THIS HAPPENS DOES THERE NEED TO BE AN RFP, BRINGING SOMEONE FORWARD FROM WORKING FOR US IF THEY ARE MAKING A PRESENTATION. I AM MAKING THAT MOTION TO

TABLE UNTIL OCTOBER 19. >> I DO APOLOGIZE BECAUSE HE HAS MADE A MOTION AND A SECOND I AM NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HEAR FROM YOU I THINK THAT IS A SHAME.

SOMEBODY FROM A MEDICAL TEAM TELLS US YOU SHOULD GET EDUCATED BEFORE YOU WERE GOING TO AUTHORIZE AN ACTION OF ITSELF WAS LOOKING FOR EFFICIENCY.

THE ADMINISTRATOR ASSURED ME THIS WAS IMPORTANT FOR THE INITIATION OF THE SERVICES THAT WE DO PROVIDE I AM SORRY YOU FEEL THAT WAY IN THAT CASE NEVER BE A PRESENTATION IF YOU

ALWAYS WANT AN ACTION ITEM. >> I HAVE MADE A MOTION.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY SIGNIFY BY SAYING I HATE

TO BE A TABLE TO THE 19TH. >> YES MA'AM.>> I VOTE NO BECAUSE THEY SAID IT WAS IMPORTANT.

>> WHO ELSE? >> I SAID I.

>> THAT WILL HELP ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE THEN ITEM NUMBER 16 INITIATOR ALREADY SUGGESTED SHE WAS GOING TO ASK TO TABLE CAN I

ASK YOU TO CONFIRM THAT. >> NUMBER NINE ALSO.

>> ON 16. >> REQUEST TO TABLE NUMBER 16.

>> MOVE IT TO NOVEMBER. >> SAY JANUARY AND THAT.

DECEMBER WHATEVER. >> TO VOTE FOR THE TABLE THE PURPOSE OF THESE FUNDS TO LET CHARITIES RECOVER, CAN'T WE

AGREE?>> 16TH OF NOVEMBER. >> ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. >> JUDGE NUMBER THREE.

>> HOLE ON A SECOND. >> SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

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>> I. >> OKAY THEN THERE WAS NUMBER

25 COMMISSIONER. >> 25.

>> I DID NOT HAVE ANY BACKUP. >> I HAD THAT ON THE LIST.

>> TO TABLE 25. >> ABSOLUTELY.

THAT WAS GOING TO BE SOMETHING I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT LOCALLY NOT REALLY AN ACTION ITEM REQUESTED.

>> ALL RIGHT TABLE ANY ACTION THE COURT WANTS TO TAKE IT UP THEN THEY CAN CHOOSE SO. A DATE COMMISSIONER CHESNEY?

>> NOVEMBER 16. >> NOVEMBER 16 SIGNIFY BY

SAYING I. >> I.

>> OKAY. THEN ITEM NUMBER NINE IS SCOTT.

TO MOVE DOLLARS TO COASTAL PARKS TO GREAT A MASTER PLAN AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

>> UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF NOVEMBER ALSO.

UNTIL NOVEMBER 16. I NEED MORE INFORMATION.

>> THROWING THAT IN THERE, THAT WERE IDENTIFIED THAT WERE FROM

THE OFFICE JUST FYI. >> SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

>> NOVEMBER 16 SECOND. >> MOTION AND THE SECOND,

SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> OKAY.

I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD WORK WITH THE DIRECTOR SO YOU GUYS

CAN GET ON THE SAME PAGE. >> I THINK WAS AVAILABLE ONLINE TODAY. HAVE YOU CONTACT THE COMMISSIONER, DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD. THEY NEED FUNDS, YOU GUYS HAVE UNTIL NOVEMBER 16 WE WILL BRING IT BACK.

WITH SOME CEOS AVAILABLE THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE NUMBER THREE. >> WAIT UNTIL NOVEMBER 16.

>> JUDGE: THIS IS A LEGAL ACTION AND WE HAVE BEEN SERVED WITH A PETITION AND IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. BY TABLING IT WE ARE JUST INCONVENIENCING THE PETITIONER.

>> COMMISSIONER: IS THERE A TIME LIMIT ON PETITIONS?

>> WHAT ITEM IS THE PETITION? >> JUDGE: NOT REALLY SINCE IT'S BEEN IN THE STATE SINCE 1957 WHAT'S A LITTLE MORE TIME?

[LAUGHTER] >> COMMISSIONER: THIS IS WHERE SOMEONE WANTS TO GIVE US OUR COUNTY ROAD?

>> JUDGE: RIGHT THERE IS A PETITIONS PURSUANT TO THE LAW THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO TAKE IT UP YOU CAN TABLE IT AND CONTINUE TO THWART THE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE SMART TO AT LEAST HEAR, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACT ON IT TODAY BUT SINCE HE HAS BEEN HERE WITH US I THINK IT WOULD BE SMART TO HEAR FROM HIM SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND IT IS A PETITION IT IS PURSUANT TO THE LAW AND IT DOES HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD. BY DELAYING IT YOU ARE NOT HELPING THE PEOPLE. BUT IF THAT IS THE MOTION, THAT IS THE MOTION. I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST HAVE IT BROUGHT UP SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS. THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF COURT. AN OPEN MEETING ACT DOES NOT ALLOW US TO SIT IN A ROOM AND FIGURE THIS OUT. THIS IS WHY AGENDAS ARE CREATED THAT'S WHY WE DO IT VIRTUALLY HERE THAT'S WHY WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT HERE THAT'S WHY PEOPLE COME. THEY EXPECT THAT WHEN AN AGENDA IS POSTED WE ACTUALLY DEAL WITH THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. EVERY TIME WE TABLE IT IT IS A MEANS OF SAYING YOU ARE NOT IMPORTANT WERE GOING TO MOVE YOU TO THE END IT'S NOT BY MUTUAL AGREEMENT.

>> COMMISSIONER: THOSE ARE YOUR OWN WORDS JUDGE.

>> COMMISSIONER: WE HAVE DECIDED ON THIS TWICE BEFORE EVEN BEFORE I WAS A COMMISSIONER AND IT'S BEEN

DENIED TWICE BEFORE. >> JUDGE: NOT BY PETITION HERE

AT. >> COMMISSIONER: JUDGE EVERYONE

HAS TO SIGN THE PETITION HERE. >> JUDGE: IT WOULD BE NICE TO

HEAR FROM THE EXPERT. >> COMMISSIONER: YEAH, THE

EXPERT AND THEY ARE IN THE ROOM WITH US. >> COMMISSIONER: I

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DIDN'T MAKE A MOTION IT'S NOT MY MOTION.

>> COMMISSIONER: MAKE A MOTION.

>> JUDGE: I DON'T LIKE THAT PEOPLE AREN'T BEING HEARD TABLE IT AND FORTH THEIR ACTION. WHAT IS YOUR DATE, SIR? WHAT IS YOUR DATE? YOU WANT TO HEAR IT? I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT AND YOU CAN STILL TABLE THE ACTION BUT YOU SHOULD HEAR FROM HIM. WE SHOULD HEAR FROM HIM. WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE, SIR? IT IS YOUR TABLE. IT IS YOUR MOTION. WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR

FROM HIM? >> COMMISSIONER: YES I WILL

HEAR FROM HIM. >> JUDGE: THANK YOU SIR.

>> COMMISSIONER: WEIGHT, ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS ONE FIRST WORK

GO TO THAT ONE? >> JUDGE: THAT IS TRUE WE WILL JUST HOLD THEN. WE WILL HOLD. WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 7 WHICH IS RECEIVE AN UPDATE ON BOB HALL PEER DESIGN CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE AND RELATED MATTERS. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ALL MATTERS REGARDING THE PEER AND ANY ALLOCATION THAT MAY BE PERTINENT AND WITH US WE HAVE SEVERAL RESOURCES IN THE ROOM BUT FIRST WE TURNED TO SCOTT HARRIS.

>> COMMISSIONER: JUDGE MAY I ASK A QUESTION?

>> JUDGE: YES. WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION?

>> COMMISSIONER: MY ITEM WOULD BE ON ITEM NUMBER 8 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION TO CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS FOR THE BOB HALL PEER.

>> JUDGE: I WOULD LIKE THAT. >> COMMISSIONER: I CAN MAKE IT AND YOU CAN SECOND JUST WANT TO GET IT DONE.

>> JUDGE: I WOULD LIKE THAT. DO YOU WANT TO GET IT DONE? THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, YES? COMMISSIONER JOE

GONZALEZ? >> COMMISSIONER: I DON'T KNOW WHY EVERYONE IS SO WORRIED. I THINK THAT PETER HAS ALWAYS BEEN SUPPORTED AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WON'T SUPPORT IT. WE WILL SUPPORT IT. I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE DOESN'T

SUPPORT IT. >> JUDGE: THAT IS WHY -

>> COMMISSIONER: I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS. IT COULD CHANGE.

I AM NOT A SURFER I PROBABLY WON'T EVER BE A SURFER. YOU

KNOW? [LAUGHTER] >> COMMISSIONER: THAT I WOULD

LIKE TO SEE, ACTUALLY! >> COMMISSIONER: BUT PEOPLE WANT TO SURF AND CATCH FISH. AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE FISHERMEN EITHER. WE HAVE TO GO WITH IT, RIGHT? THAT IS MY

THING. >> JUDGE: RIGHT.

>> COMMISSIONER: I AGREE. >> JUDGE: DEFINITELY I'M NOT GOING TO IGNORE THE SIGNING UP THAT YOU HAVE DONE. YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. I HAVE TO SAY THAT WHEN WE CALL FOR DISCUSSION THAT DOES GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SPEAK. IF YOU WANT IT TO BE ADVANCED I NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE FOLKS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP HAVE A SAY. THE MOTION IS MADE THE SECOND IS HERE AND SCOTT HARRIS WOULD YOU YIELD TO THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME AND WE WILL COME RIGHT BACK TO YOU?

[8. Discuss and consider proceeding with two (2) pile architectural design for Bob Hall Pier utilizing current funding.]

WE HAVE SEVERAL. IT IS STEVE RAY,

>> COMMISSIONER: NUMBER 8 AS IS.

>> JUDGE: IS IT RICHARD FOR SALLY?

>> PUBLIC COMMENT: FORGIVE ME. >> JUDGE: I AM LOOKING AT SEVEN AND EIGHT. SANDY AND STEVE. HOWEVER YOU WOULD ALL LIKE TO DO IT IN WHATEVER ORDER. SANDY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO

FIRST? >> PUBLIC COMMENT: WHAT ITEM? IT IS ON THE BOB HALL PIER ON THE DUAL PILING AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER. STEPHEN? THERE YOU ARE, FORGIVE ME, THESE ARE ONLY CLOSE UP. SANDY, WELCOME.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT: THANK YOU JUDGE. MY NAME IS SANDY LASKOWSKI AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU JUDGE FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND COMMISSIONERS. ALL I HAVE TO SAY RIGHT NOW ABOUT THIS PYLON, IT IS ABOUT TIMING YOU GUYS A GREAT. I AM NOT AN ARCHITECT BUT IT NEEDS TO BE A TWO PYLON. WE HIRED A DESIGNER AND ARCHITECT. THIS WAS LONG AGO. THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ON THE ITEM RIGHT NOW WASTING TIME. IT WAS AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN A TWO PYLON DEAL. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PASSED ALONG TIME AGO. NOT BICKERING OVER THIS. ALL WE ARE DOING IS WASTING TIME ON THE GO AHEAD WITH THE BOB HALL PIER. THIS IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE PYLON. BARBARA, THANK YOU. YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE TO PUSH THIS AND MAKE NUMBER 8 HAPPEN HERE LET'S GO WITH IT, END OF STORY. LET'S GO WITH

THE TWO PYLON. >> COMMISSIONER: LET'S DO IT.

>> JUDGE: THANK YOU. AND, JUST BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE

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COMPLETE CAN YOU GIVE ME YOUR ADDRESS FOR THIS SHEET AND I TURN IT INTO THE CLERK THIS WAY.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT: >> JUDGE: I'VE GOT IT HERE

STEVE RAY YOU MAY PROCEED. >> PUBLIC COMMENT: GOOD AFTERNOON JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. I AM A LOCAL SURFER. I HAVE A PHOTOGRAPH FROM MAY 1972 AND WHERE WAS I? BOB HALL PIER. I DO THIS ALL THE TIME. I DON'T DO A LOT OF THE FISHING AND MORE ON THE SURFING END. I WAS LOOKING AT THE HISTORY OF BOB HALL PIER AS MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT WAS BUILT IN 1950. IN 1960 IT WAS A 42 FOOT STRIP BOAT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE AWARE OF THIS OR NOT BUT IT GOT AWAY AND RAN INTO THE PEER AND ALMOST GOT THE THING IN HALF. THAT WAS A TWO PYLON PIER. WHAT CAN HAPPEN? MANY THINGS CAN GET LOOSE SO SURFERS AND FISHERMEN WE ARE REALIZING WE HAVE A NEW SURF SPOT BECAUSE OF ALL THE PARTS WITH THE ROCKS AND IT UNPREDICTED AND IT'S TAKEN AWAY FROM ANOTHER ONE OF OUR FAVORITE SURF SPOTS. 1961 CARLA DESTROYED BOB HALL PIER AT MULTIPLE PYLONS AND THEN IT WAS REBUILT. 1957 HURRICANE BUEHLER DESTROYED HALF OF THE PEER AND THEN IN 1970 HURRICANE CELIA MILD DAMAGE BUT IN 1980 I COMMENT ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE VISITED THE PEER. IN 1980 OVER A 56 DAY PERIOD THERE WAS 186,000 PEOPLE THAT VISITED OUR PIER THAT SUMMER. WE AS A LOCAL PERSON WHEN MY FRIENDS WANT TO COME FROM CALIFORNIA OR FLORIDA OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE WHERE DO WE GO FISH OR SURF? WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE SPOT? I DO NOT WANT TO SAY LET'S ALL LOAD UP AND GO TO PORTER RANCH. LET'S GO DOWN TO SOUTH PADRE OR GALVESTON. I WANT TO STAY LOCAL THIS IS WHERE I LIVE IN THIS IS WHERE I PAY MY TAXES AND THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO BRAG ABOUT. WE ARE GOING TO GET A HARBOR BRIDGE, OUR BONDS ARE GONE WE NEED TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION ON THIS. THAT IS BASICALLY ALL I HAVE. THE MAIN THING I AM HERE TODAY IS TO BE A VOICE OF MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY WHO CANNOT BE HERE FOR WHATEVER REASON MAYBE THEY DIDN'T DO A ZOOM, MAYBE THEY DON'T CARE ENOUGH BUT IF I DIDN'T COME TODAY I WOULDN'T FEEL VERY GOOD ABOUT MYSELF AND MY COMMUNITY. I AM HERE TO VOICE MY OPINION SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND

CONSIDERATION. >> JUDGE: THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. RAY. THOSE ARE THE TWO THAT WE HAVE FOR THE ITEM CALLED UP RIGHT NOW. THERE IS STILL ANOTHER ITEM BUT WE WILL GET TO IT SHORTLY. ON NINEITEM NUMBER 8 THAT WAS THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION HOW ABOUT ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION HERE: AS I SAID, WERE NOT GOING TO LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A GOOD PRESENTATION BUT AS FOR THE TWO PILE THERE IS A MOTION IS A SECOND AND THERE'S NOT JUST CONSENT BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A UNANIMOUS ONE, POTENTIALLY. WE WILL FIND OUT HERE SHORTLY.

ANYONE ELSE? IF NOT ALL THERE THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. WITH THAT, IT MIGHT MAKE THINGS EASIER GOING

[7. Receive update on Bob Hall Pier design, construction timeline, and related matters; discuss and consider all matters related to construction of Bob Hall Pier; discuss and consider funding allocation, including certificate of obligation funds.]

FORWARD FOR ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS. SCOTT HARRIS WILL YOU INTRODUCE TO US THE PRESENTATION YOU HAVE FOR US REGARDING THE PIER? FOR THOSE OF YOU ONLINE, WE ARE BACK ON

NUMBER 7. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THANK YOU JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. I DID PROVIDE THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR

WITH A PRESENTATION. >> JUDGE: LEAH, DO YOU HAVE IT?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: I HAVE IT WITH ME IF YOU WANT TO LOAD IT.

>> JUDGE: LET'S LOAD IT IF IT'S GOING TO BE A VISUAL AID THAT

WILL BE HELPFUL. >> JUDGE: OKAY, LET US KNOW WHEN YOU WANT TO ADVANCE THE SLIDE.

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>> GUEST SPEAKER: THANK YOU JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. I AM SCOTT HARRIS I AM WITH LOCKWOOD HARRIS AND NUNO. WE ARE THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THIS PROJECT. WITH ME TODAY IS LEWIS CLOSE MEYER WITH JACOBS ENGINEERING GROUP. HE IS THE DESIGN ENGINEER OF RECORD FOR THIS PROJECT. I'VE GOT FIVE SLIDES WERE GOING TO BE REALLY QUICK. BASICALLY THREE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO COVER TODAY. I WANTED TO COVER THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT STATUS OF WHERE WE HAVE GONE IN THE VERY BEGINNING TO NOTICE TO PROCEED UNTIL NOW. I WANTED TO COVER THE COST METHODOLOGY. I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN SOME QUESTIONS BY THE PUBLIC, COMMISSIONERS AND BY SEVERAL ABOUT HOW WE DETERMINE COSTS THUS FAR AND LEWIS IS HERE TO HELP WITH THAT AS WELL. LASTLY I WANTED TO PROVIDE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ON MOVING FORWARD WHICH I DON'T THINK WILL COME AS ANY SURPRISED WITH WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY HEARD TODAY AND GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE TIMELINE IS GOING TO BE NOW AFTER WE PROCEED TODAY WITH THE PREVIOUS ACTION THAT WE JUST

APPROVED. >>> SO, OUR DESIGN TEAM WAS GIVEN NOTICE TO PROCEED IN JUNE 2021. WE WENT THROUGH SEVERAL MONTHS OF PUBLIC COMMENT, PUBLIC SURVEYS, WE GOT TO A POINT WHERE WE SUBMITTED A PERMIT TO THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS FUNDING WAS EVENTUALLY SECURED. ALL OF THE FUNDING WAS EVENTUALLY SECURED IN MAY 2022. WE HAVE 26.3. I KNOW THAT THERE WAS 2 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE PEER THAT CAME AFTER THAT AND THIS SLIDE DOES NOT HIT ALL OF THE BULLETS BUT THE MAJOR MILESTONES. AT THE END OF AUGUST WE PROVIDED A PRESENTATION TO THE PARKS BOARD AND THAT PARKS BOARD THEY MOVED THAT WE GO FORWARD WITH LOOKING AT BOTH A DUAL PILE AND A MONO PILE DESIGN UP TO 30 PERCENT LEVEL. OUR RECOMMENDATION HERE TODAY IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE PARKS WERE RECOMMENDING. BUT I WILL TALK

ABOUT THAT HERE IN A BIT. >>> SO, I DID WANT TO SHOW Y'ALL SOME OF THE CONCEPTUAL COST ESTIMATES. I DO WANT TO GO ON RECORD TODAY THAT THERE IS BACKUP, THERE IS DETAIL TO THESE THAT JACOBS ENGINEERING HAS PROVIDED US AND WE HAVE VALIDATED THE UNIT COST AND REVIEWED THE CONCEPTUAL LEVEL COST THUS FAR. THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS SLIDE AND THE NEXT SLIDE IS TO LET JOHN KNOW THAT THE COST BEING PRODUCED THUS FAR ARE CONCEPTUAL LEVEL COST AND A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CONTINGENCY INVOLVED OR CONTINGENCY ADDED TO THIS PROJECT LEVEL COST AND OUR TEAM IS DEDICATED TO WORK WITH JACOBS AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR DESIGN AND THE COSTS GET

CLOSER AND CLOSER. >>> AGAIN, YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW UNTIL THIS PROJECT IS BID EXACTLY WHAT THE COSTS ARE GOING TO BE. FROM NOW UNTIL THE PROJECT IS BID THE WAY THAT WE PRODUCE COST ESTIMATES IS REALLY WITH ADDED CONTINGENCIES AND YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE THIS SCHEMATIC PHASE. WE ARE REALLY OVER HERE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE NOW AND THE COST THAT JACOBS ENGINEERING HAS BROUGHT FORTH THUS FAR HAS ANYWHERE FROM A+ 50 DOWN TO A -30. IN RANGE SO, THAT IS REALLY THE COST RANGE. IF WE WERE TO GO TO THE PUBLIC AND SAY IT COST $4 MILLION EXTRA TO DESIGN LET'S JUST SAY A DUAL PILE SYSTEM VERSUS A MONO PILE SYSTEM, THAT RANGE IS ANYWHERE FROM A+ 50 PERCENT TO A -30 PERCENT THERE'S A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY IN THAT. SO, WE DID WANT TO GO ON RECORD HERE TODAY BY SAYING THAT EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED THUS FAR THERE IS WIDE CONTINGENCIES IN WHAT HAS BEEN DONE AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO GOING FORWARD NOW WITH A DUAL PILE DESIGN THAT THE COURT JUST APPROVED. AND LOOK AT THE COST AT EVERY

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SINGLE MILESTONE ALONG THE WAY.

>> JUDGE: VERY GOOD. >> GUEST SPEAKER: IF THERE IS NO QUESTIONS ON THE COST METHODOLOGY I WILL MOVE FORWARD TO THE LAST SLIDE WHICH IS OUR RECOMMENDATION.

>> JUDGE: LET ME ASK, ARE THERE ?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW OUR DESIGN TEAM HAS PRODUCED THE COST THUS FAR?

>> COMMISSIONER: WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS A BACKUP SO Y'ALL VALIDATED. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SEE THAT BACKUP AND ANTICIPATED THIS. WILL YOU BE PROVIDING THAT TO US?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES. LAST THURSDAY I PROVIDED THIS PRESENTATION AND THE BACKUP TO THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR.

>> COMMISSIONER: OKAY. WE NEED TO GET THAT FORWARDED.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES. I HAVE AN EMAIL RETURNING SAYING IT

WAS ACCEPTED. >> COMMISSIONER: THAT IS A PROBLEM. THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE SO WE CAN TABLE IT IF YOU WANT TO OR KEEP GOING WITH THE DATE IT'S JUST AN ACTION

ITEM. >> JUDGE: IT'S GREAT INPUTINFO.

>> COMMISSIONER: I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO BE INCONSISTENT.

>> JUDGE: RIGHT. I KNOW. >> GUEST SPEAKER: I WANT TO BE BRIEF. I DO GO ON RECORD TODAY COMMISSIONER, WE HAVE REVIEWED JACOBS COST, THE UNIT COSTS ARE IN LINE WITH WHERE THE PROJECT IS AND WITHIN THE RANGE OF CONTINGENCY. WE HAVE DONE OUR PART TO REVIEW WHAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED. THE LAST SLIDE, WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A TWO PILE SYSTEM WHICH IS ALREADY DONE HERE THE COURT HAS ALREADY APPROVED THAT. THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IS THE 30 PERCENT SUBMITTAL. WERE GOING FORWARD WITH THE 30 PERCENT DESIGN WITH A TWO PILE OPTION.

THERE WON'T BE TWO DIFFERENT SYSTEMS LOOK THAT. THE MONO PILE IS HISTORY AND WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH A TWO PILE DESIGN TO 30 PERCENT. THAT WILL BE DONE IN THREE MONTHS FROM TODAY. NOW THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US THE GO-AHEAD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A PARTICULAR DESIGN. JACOBS IS READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN. 33 MONTHS FROM NOW WE WILL HAVE A 30 PERCENT SUBMITTAL. THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE PIER WILL BE REEVALUATED AT THE TIME. YOU CAN SEE THOSE UPDATED COSTS AT THAT TIME AS WELL. NINE MONTHS AN ADDITIONAL NINE MONTHS WE WILL HAVE THE FINAL DESIGN DOCUMENTS READY FOR COUNTY APPROVAL. AS I SAID EARLIER PROJECT COSTS WILL BE DEVELOPED AND PROJECT SCOPE WILL BE AS NEEDED AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO KEEPING THIS PROJECT WITHIN BUDGET AND AS WE

MOVE FORWARD. THE LAST ITEM. >> COMMISSIONER: HAVE THE FUNDS JACOB HAD SAID AT ONE TIME THEY WERE NOT REQUESTED OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN REQUESTED BUT THEY CAME BACK AND THEY SAID STILL GOING TO NEED THINK THEY SAID LIKE $980,000. I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE MORE LIKE 1 MILLION. I KNOW YOU CAME TO US ONE TIME AND SAID HE FORGOT TO ADD THIS.

>> COMMISSIONER: I THANK YOU ARE THINKING OF THAT LAUNDRY LIST OF SOME THINGS THAT WE FUNDED AND SOME THINGS THAT WE

DIDN'T. >> JUDGE: ALL FUNDING IS

SECURED INSIDE THAT LIST. >> COMMISSIONER: NOT ONLY THAT IT IS ALREADY IN THERE, RIGHT? WERE NOT GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ADDITIONAL?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES, LEWIS CAN ADDRESS THIS.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: IF I CAN ADDRESS THAT, COMMISSIONER JOE GONZALEZ, ONE THING THAT WE REQUESTED FOR YOU ALL IN THE BACKUP WAS THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT AND AMENDMENT ONE THAT WAS PROVIDED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO OR SO. THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT WAS ESSENTIALLY FOR REBUILDING BOB HALL PIER AS IT WAS. WE WENT THROUGH THE TOWN HALLS, THE DIVISION AND PROCESS, WHAT DO WE WANT TO HAVE? ONCE THAT WAS COMPLETED THERE WAS ADDITIONAL, WE WANTED TO DO MORE THAN JUST BOB HALL PIER. WE WANTED TO MAKE IT BIGGER. WE WANTED A TWO-STORY RESTAURANT OR A ONE-STORY RESTAURANT. WE WANTED A LITTLE MORE ROOM ON THE END FOR THE FISHERMEN, A LITTLE BIT WIDER FOR THE FISHERMEN. THERE WAS SCOPE BEYOND WHAT THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT WAS FOR. THE AMENDED CONTRACT THAT YOU HAVE APPROVED PROVIDED DESIGN FUNDS FOR THAT ADDITIONAL WORK. WE DID SUBMIT

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COST FOR INDIVIDUAL ITEMS THAT DID NOT GET APPROVED BECAUSE THE FUNDING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION WAS NOT APPROVED.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STILL HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED AND WE WILL GO FORWARD BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE DESIGNING A ONE-STORY RESTAURANT TO REPLACE WHAT IS THERE. THAT IS WHAT IS IN THE CONTRACT NOW. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY DESIGN FUNDS FOR A LARGER RESTAURANT, A SECOND-STORY RESTAURANT, NOTHING LIKE THAT.

OR IF WE COME THROUGH THEY DECIDE TO COME UP WITH SOME GL OH FUNDS TO EXTEND BEYOND THE DUNES. THERE'S NO DESIGN FUNDS IN THEREFORE THAT. NOTHING WAS FORGOTTEN IN THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT. WE ADDED ENGINEERING FUNDS TO DESIGN SCOPE TO DESIGN PORTIONS OF THE PROJECT THAT WERE NOT ENVISIONED IN THE ORIGINAL. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?

>> COMMISSIONER: THOSE ARE NOT INCLUDED IN WHAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? SAY YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND EXPAND. THOSE

ARE NOT IN THERE. >> GUEST SPEAKER: IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING ALL THE POSSIBLE, WHAT IF WE DO THIS, WHAT IF WE DO THAT, ELION ASKED US WHAT IS THE CONSTRUCTION COST OF THIS? WE PROVIDED THE CONSTRUCTION COST AT THAT.

THEY DID NOT ASK FOR WHAT IS A DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION COST.

THEY SAID WHAT IS A CONSTRUCTION COST? I PROVIDED

WHAT I WAS ASKED FOR. >> COMMISSIONER: THERE IS STILL A QUESTION THERE, WHICH WAY ARE WE GOING, RIGHT?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: WE HEARD THE CLERK LOUD AND CLEAR AT THE MONEY ALLOCATED FOR CONSTRUCTION NOW NEEDS TO INCLUDE ENGINEERING. WE HAVE HEARD THAT.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: CERTAINLY. >> JUDGE: THANK YOU.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: THE LAST BULLET ON THE SLIDE CONTAINS THE CORE OF ENGINEER PERMIT. WITH THE DECISION MADE TODAY WE ARE ALLOWED TO GO FORWARD WITH THE REAPPLICATION OF THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS PERMIT. BEGINNING IMMEDIATELY. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A NECESSITY AS ELL. WE WE WANT TO ADD THAT IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT IF WE ARE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE AT

THIS TIME. >> JUDGE: THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND FOR WAITING PATIENTLY AND FOR ALL OF YOU ONLINE AND SIGNED PETITIONS FOR THOSE THAT YOU HAVE COME TO COURT NOT JUST TODAY BUT OVER THE LAST SURFRIDER'S MEETING BACK IN JUNE. I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS. NOW WE HAVE A FULLY FUNDED PROJECT WE HAVE A PROJECT FOR EVERYONE AND WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT CAN BEGIN NOW. I THINK IT'S A GREAT WIN FOR THE COMMUNITY AND A VERY EXCITING DAY AND WE LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT AND I DIDN'T PULL IT UP IN TIME BUT I CAN COMPARE A PHRASE BUT SCOTT NEARS THIS IS RELATED MATTERS I HAVE IT. I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO READ INTO THE RECORD. YESTERDAY THIS WAS RECEIVED TO ME ON MONDAY, 10, 10, 22. WE CONDUCTED THE FINAL WALK-THROUGH. ALL DEMOLITION OPTIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED ALL DEBRIS REMOVED AND THE CONTRACTOR HAS DEMOBILIZED FROM THE BEACH. THE CONTRACTOR WILL HAVE A LAYDOWN YARD LOCATED ON THE ASPHALT. PARKING LOT DEMOBILIZED BY THE END OF THE WEEK WHICH MEANS THIS WEEK HERE THEREFORE I CAN HONESTLY SAY CONGRATULATIONS ARE IN ORDER. WE HAVE SAFELY AND PROPERLY DEMOBILIZED. IT'S THE END OF ONE ERA AND THE BEGINNING OF ANOTHER AND IT'S THE ONE THAT I THANK YOU WILL LOOK FORWARD TO WITH GREAT ANTICIPATION. THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY IS I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE PHOTO THAT YOU SHOWED AND I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE NEW PHOTO THAT ALMOST REPLICATES BUT WITH MORE BEAUTY, WITH MORE GRANDEUR THAT SAME OPPORTUNITY YOU SAID HAPPENS ONLY TWICE A YEAR. AGAIN, IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. WE ARE REMINDED HERE THAT THIS IS A PHOTO THAT WAS TAKEN BY LISA TORRES. IT'S QUITE BEAUTIFUL IT HAS ITS OWN BEAUTY. THE WAVES ARE NOT THE KIND YOU LIKE BUT IT'S ITS OWN BEAUTY. I THINK THAT IT SYMBOLIZES FOR US THAT PRETTY SOON WE HAVE ON THE OTHER CORNER A NEW. IT WILL BE A GREAT FISHING PIER A GREAT OBSERVATION PIER AND A GREAT

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PIER FOR BOTH LOCALS, THOSE TEXANS THAT COME AND ENJOY AN THOSE INTERNATIONAL TOURISTS AS WELL. THANK YOU TO SCOTT, LEWIS AND LIKE I SAID EVERYBODY WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. THIS IS HOW GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO WORK.

THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER: A QUICK

QUESTION? >> JUDGE: YES.

>> COMMISSIONER: I WANTED TO ECHO THAT AND I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE SURFRIDER FOUNDATION BECAUSE HONESTLY THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE BELIEVE IT TALKS TO WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, TOO. IF THEY WOULD NOT HAVE BROUGHT TO THISTHIS TO OUR ATTENTION THIS TO PILE SYSTEM WOULD NOT BE WHERE IT WAS. BECAUSE THE INITIAL DESIGN WAS A ONE PILE A MONO PILE AND IT LOOKED GREAT. A LOT OF US WERE FOCUSED ON THE PIER IN THE RESTAURANT IN THE CONCESSION AND ALL THE SUDDEN ONE MEETING HERE COMES THE SURFRIDER'S FOUNDATION TELLING US WAIT A MINUTE WHY ARE WE DOING ONE PILE INSTEAD OF TWO? TALK ABOUT DEMOCRACY WORKING THAT IS EXACTLY HOW THIS IS PIER THE SURFRIDER'S FOUNDATION SHOULD TAKE 100 PERCENT CREDIT FOR GETTING US THE ATTENTION TO GET US TO GIVE THE ATTENTION NEEDED TO THIS ISSUE AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS BECAUSE YOU ARE ALL SITTING IN THE ROOM AND YOU ARE ALL IN LINE BUT IT'S THE TRUTH. Y'ALL COME TO PUBLIC COMMENT GET YOUR PETITION AND GETTING US OFF DEAD CENTER TO SAY WELL, HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN? IT HAS BEEN A LITTLE FRUSTRATING FOR ALL OF US BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND INPUT BUT NONE OF US WANT THIS TURNING INTO THE HARBOR BRIDGE RIGHT? WE HAVE BEEN VERY CAREFUL. I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A PHENOMENAL PERIOD THAT WE ARE ALL GOING TO BE PROUD OF. NO ONE GOT EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANTED AT THE TIME THEY WANT IT BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT PETER IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ALL PROUD OF AND THE ENTIRE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND AGAIN I'M NOT LEAVING THE JUDGE OUT SHE PLAYED A BIG ROLE IN THIS BUT THE THREE COMMISSIONERS WHO DON'T REPRESENT THE ISLAND COULD HAVE STEPPED UP TO THIS BIG TIME AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE HAD THOSE FUNDS IF THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN - NICE ENOUGH ISN'T THE RIGHT WORD BUT TO LOOK AT THIS AND SAY HEY, THIS IS NOT THE PRECINCT FOR THE ASSET. THIS IS A COUNTY ASSET A WORLD ASSET A STATE ASSET HERE THIS GOES WAY PAST. KUDOS TO THOSE COMMISSIONERS FOR STEPPING UP AND REALIZING THAT AND HOPEFULLY IT NEVER HAPPENS IN YOUR PRECINCT BUT IF IT DOES AND WE KNOCK SOMETHING DOWN IN YOUR PART OF THE WORLD IT CAN BE REBUILT AND I WILL BE THERE AS WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. IT IS DEMOCRACY AT WORK.

WE DID HEAR YOU. THANK YOU. I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS DUAL.

IT'S BEEN A LOT MORE WORK AND EFFORT THAN IT SHOULD'VE BEEN AND WITH THAT MA'AM I AGREE BUT WE HAVE TO PUSH FORWARD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE SURFRIDER'S AGAIN AND EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN INVOLVED AND JACOB AND HANSEN HAVE BEEN WORKING TIRELESSLY. I CANNOT EVEN BEGIN TO TELL YOU HOW MANY CONVERSATIONS AND EMAILS WE HAVE HAD WITH THEM WORKING THROUGH THE STUFF IN THE BACK TRYING TO FIGURE IT ALL OUT GETTING IT PRESENTED HERE AND PUBLICLY. IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK TO GET TO THIS POINT JUST DON'T SHOW UP AND DO IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES ON IN MEETINGS, TOO. A GREAT JOB. I'M ANXIOUS TO LOOK AT THIS BACKUP. IF I DID AND I OVERLOOKED IT I MIGHT HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU GOING FORWARD WITH THE NUMBERS BUT THAT'S NOT FOR NOW. THAT'S FOR ANOTHER DAY SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: THANK YOU JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

>> JUDGE: FORGIVE ME THERE IS A HOPPED UP AND I WOULD LIKE TO RESPECT IT BECAUSE IT IS OUR PARKS DIRECT THEIR SCOTT CROSS.

DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING? >> GUEST SPEAKER: JUST TWO THINGS, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE COMMISSIONERS KNOW AND ESPECIALLY FOR COMMISSIONER GONZALES I KNOW HE WATCHES HIS DOLLARS VERY CLOSELY ALONG WITH THE REST OF Y'ALL AT THE PARKING LOT AS YOU KNOW THAT WILL SUPPORT THE PIER IS 100 PERCENT FUNDED PEERED COMMISSIONER CHESNEY WITH YOUR ROAD FUNDS YOU SECURED THE ENGINEERING ON THAT SO THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY ADDITIONAL COST THERE. THE SKYBRIDGE THAT WILL GO ACROSS THE BEACH, THAT IS ANOTHER APPLICATION THAT I WILL BE SUBMITTING FOR AND IN JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS. THE

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ENGINEERING FOR THAT WILL BE OUT OF THOSE GRANT FUNDS AND THAT WILL NOT BE AN ADDITIONAL COST AND I WANTED TO CURB EVERYBODY'S EXPECTATIONS ON THE PERMITTING. WERE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS AGAIN BECAUSE IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE STAFF REVIEW FOR DUAL PILE NOT MONO PILE WHICH IS NORMAL. THERE IS A PERMITTING THAT'S PROBLEMATIC AND THAT LIES WITH THE NATIONAL MARINE FISHING SERVICE. I REACHED OUT TO THEM. THEIR OFFICE IS IN ST. PETERSBURG, FLORIDA AND THEY HAVE STAFF IN THAT OFFICE TO SERVE 10 STATES FOR ALL THESE ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITS. SO, THEY ARE RUNNING AT LEAST 3 TO 4 MONTHS ONCE THEY GET YOUR PERMIT WHEN THE COURT FORWARDS IT TO THEM BEFORE THEY EVEN ASSIGN IT TO A STAFF MEMBER IS JUST THE NATURE OF THE BEAST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF FOR THE WORKLOAD. I GOT ENOUGH GUIDANCE TO THEN THAT PROVIDED TO LAND IN JACOB SO WE CAN FRONTLOAD OUR PERMITTING DOCUMENTS TO POSSIBLY HEAD OFF ANY QUESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE AND TRY TO SPEED UP THE TIMELINE.

ADDITIONALLY JUDGE I REACH OUT AND TALK TO NICK, I CAN'T PRONOUNCE HIS LAST NAME FOR THE CHIEF OF PERMITTING IN GALVESTON. I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THE SAME THING AND HE ADVISES THE SAME WAY FRONTLOAD YOUR DOCUMENTS ON YOUR PERMIT FOR YOUR NATIONAL MARINE FISHING SERVICES. IT MAY NOT HELP BUT IT IS YOUR BEST CHANCE OF STOPPING THAT BACK AND FORTH. IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR PLANS AND SPECS DONE LONG BEFORE YOUR PERMIT GETS HERE THAT IS WHERE YOU WILL GET THAT PROCUREMENT AND GET IT BUILT. I WANTED TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE

OF IT. >> JUDGE: IT IS MR. LUKOWSKI THAT YOU ARE REFERENCING? WE HAVE HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS AND LUCKY FOR ALL OF US WE HAVE A GREAT YOU KNOW, OPEN DIALOGUE WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS. I ALERTED THEM THAT THIS AGENDA ITEM WAS RIPE TODAY AND A DECISION WOULD MOST LIKELY BE MADE AND THEREFORE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO INFORM THEM SO NOW SCOTT, YOU CAN DO THAT WITH THE COURTS MINUTE AND ALTHOUGH THERE IS A PROCESS TO GO FORWARD THEY ARE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROCESS. LIKE ANYBODY THEY JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO. ONCE YOU INFORM THEM FULLY IN THE PROCESS BEGINS. I DON'T THINK THAT, I BELIEVE WE WILL PREVAIL IN A TIMELY FASHION AND WE NEED TO STAY VIGILANT AND BY WORKING WITH THIS GROUP HERE, WE WILL.

THIS IS NOT TO BOLSTER ONE ENGINEERING COMPANY OVER ANOTHER JACOBS ENGINEERING WORLD WHILE IS RECOGNIZED AROUND THE WORLD. WE HAVE RATINGS LIKE OTHER RATING AGENCIES DO AND JACOBS IS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST IF NOT NUMBER 1 THIS YEAR. CERTAINLY THEY WERE LAST YEAR IN THE WORLD AND SO, I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT THE ENGINEERING DESIGN, THE ARCHITECT, THE ENGINEERING THAT WE HAVE OVERSEEING IT WILL INTRODUCE A GREAT PRODUCT FOR US AND LIKE THEY SAY EVERYBODY LET'S GET TO WORK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. IF Y'ALL WANT TO TAKE OFF YOU ARE WELCOME TO DO SO IF YOU WANT TO HANG OUT HERE FOR MORE FUN. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 6 AND ASK FOR US MITCHELL TO COME UP. THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT DEALS WITH THE BUDGET IN THE TERMS OF REVENUE AND IS THE NUECES COUNTY MEDICAL EXAMINER'S SCHEDULE. YES MA'AM? DID SOMEBODY SAY SOME IN? YES, I WILL GO AHEAD AND HAVE YOU COME TO THE PODIUM. YOU WANTED TO HAVE -THAT CAME UP VERY THAT'S RIGHT. YOU PUT SEVEN AND EIGHT ON THERE AND IT DOES ACCURATELY REFLECT THAT FROM THE CLERK. ALSO, RICHARD AS WELL.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT: MY NAME IS SANDY LASKOWSKI, ADDRESS] I AM A MOTHER TO TWO YOUNG SONS, A YOUNG SON THAT OWNS A BUSINESS HERE IN FLOUR BLUFF. WE CAME HERE 12 YEARS AGO WHEN THEY WERE SMALL. WE CAME HERE 13 YEARS AGO AND BECAUSE OUR PASSION WAS FISHING, BOB PAUL PIER BROUGHT US HERE AND HERE IT IS NOW 20 YEARS LATER OR 12 YEARS LATER, 13 YEARS LATER WE GOT BOB PAUL PIER THAT IS GONE, HE STARTED A BUSINESS HERE AND WHAT I DON'T SEE IS THE CITY HAS TO REALIZE THIS. I HAVE SAID THIS MANY TIMES, THIS IS A FISHING

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COMMUNITY. THE RECREATION PEOPLE COME HERE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD AND FISH. THEY COME TO FISH BOB PAUL PIER. SURFING I DON'T KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT SURFING I KNOW IT'S GOING ON BUT THE DOLLARS THAT BOB PAUL PIER BRINGS TO NUECES COUNTY IS HUGE. JUDGE, YOU HAVE BEEN UP HERE, WHAT IS IT, THIS IS YOUR FIRST TERM, WE ARE GOING ON THREE YEARS? YOU ARE THE FIRST JUDGE THAT I HAVE SEEN THAT HAS WORKED AND BROUGHT DOLLARS TO THE CITY AND TOLD US WHERE THESE DOLLARS ARE. I RESPECT THAT. YOU GUYS, I DON'T KNOW THESE TWO GENTLEMEN AT THE END, COMMISSIONER MORRIS AND COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, I VAGUELY KNOW WHAT YOU DO. MR. GONZALEZ I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ON THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR A WHILE. MR. CHESNEY, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A FEW YEARS AND YOU HAVE SERVED AS A JUDGE AND CITY COUNCIL AND I'M SURE YOU HAVE SERVED UNDER MANY OTHER COMMUNITIES. ALL I SAW TODAY WAS A DISRESPECT AND YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN YOUR AGENDA. I FEEL YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT'S ON THESE AGENDAS ALL OF Y'ALL. YOU GUYS DISRESPECTED A JUDGE THAT WE ELECTED. WE ELECTED YOU GUYS ALSO AND I FOUND THAT JUST A DISGRACE. AND YOU HAVE BEEN HERE IN A DIFFERENT OFFICE. I DON'T KNOW WHY EVERYTHING WAS IN OPPOSITION TO YOU. I MEAN, YOU WERE CONFUSED, YOU HADN'T HEARD OF ANY OF THIS STUFF. DO YOUR HOMEWORK. YOU HELD UP THIS COURT FOR ALMOST EVERYTHING ON THIS AGENDA. ANYWAY, I AM HERE FOR BOB PAUL

HERE. >> COMMISSIONER: WE ARE HERE FOR BOB PAUL PIER OR SOMETHING ELSE?

>> PUBLIC COMMENT: THE FACT THAT THIS NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD, YOU GUYS NEED TO SEE THIS. IT'S GOT TO MOVE. WE'VE GOT TO STOP THIS HESITATION WITH DOLLARS. WE KNOW WHAT BOB HALL HERE BRINGS. IT BRINGS A LOT OF DOLLARS TO THIS COMMUNITY. DO YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING THIS WEEKEND IN THE OASIS? DO YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON? DO YOU? NO.

PROBABLY NOT. DO YOU KNOW THERE'S OVER 1000 PEOPLE COMING TO THE BEACH TO SURF, TO FISH FOR THE CHARCOT-. 1000 FISHERMEN ARE GOING TO COME. THEY PAY HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS TO COME AND DO THIS TOURNAMENT. IT IS A CATCH AND RELEASE.

THIS ALLOCATES MONEY TO TEXAS A&M, TO OUR BEACHES, ALL THESE FISHERMEN WHO COME TO NUECES COUNTY HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE, PERMITS, THEY ALL PAY TO FISH THIS. ALL PAUL PIER IS THE SAME THING. A FISHERMAN HAS TO HAVE A LICENSE TO FISH. YOU GOT MONEY COMING FROM THERE AND REALLY, I DON'T KNOW I'M NOT THE PERSON AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY GOES YOU'VE GOT YOUR STATE PARKS, YOU'VE GOT MONEY COMING IN EVERYWHERE BUT BOB PAUL PIER IS A MONEYMAKING THING. IT ALSO BRINGS BUSINESSES TO OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. I MEAN, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY CUSTOMERS THAT WE HAVE LOST DID WE HAVE LOST REVENUE BECAUSE BOB HALL HERE HAS NOT BEEN HERE. HOW MANY CUSTOMERS COME IN AND SAY OH GOSH WERE GOING TO ROCKPORT WERE GOING TO SPEND ONE DAY HERE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO OUR RESTAURANTS AS OFTEN AS THEY WERE HERE THEY COME HERE, BOB PAUL PIER THEY COME TO THE RESTAURANT THEY HIT EVERY BIG STAND AND RETAIL SHOP HERE, THEY SHOP THEY SHOP FOR FISHING. THE NEED FOR THIS BOB PAUL PIER IS REALLY A BIG NEED.

IT NEEDS TO BE MOVED FORWARD. WE HIRE ARCHITECTS AND LIKE I SAID, YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES THAT HIRE THEM WANT TO TRUST WHAT THEY SAY. WE LEFT ALL THE PEOPLE TO DESIGN WE WANT THIS FOR THE SURFERS AND FISHING. WE GET NOWHERE. THE BOTTOM LINE, CORPUS CHRISTI PEOPLE COME HERE. 75 PERCENT COME FROM SAN ANTONIO TO COME HERE AND SPEND THEIR DOLLARS. AND THEY COME TO BOB PAUL PIER AND THERE'S NO PIER SO THEY HIT THE BEACHES AND LUCKILY WE DO STILL HAVE THAT CUSTOMER COMING IN FROM SAN ANTONIO AND GOING TO THE BEACHES. WE SURE WOULD HAVE A LOT MORE CUSTOMERS COMING TO BOB HALL HERE. WITH THAT SAID, I HOPE YOU GUYS CAN MOVE FORWARD. I DO THANK YOU JUDGE FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE AND COMMISSIONERS, I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK, TO BED I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU JUDGE BECAUSE LIKE I SAID THE

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12 YEARS THAT I CAN HEAR YOU HAVE AND ABOUT THE ONLY JUDGE THAT I KNOW. MONEY COMES IN AND YOU GO OUT THERE GRAB THAT MONEY AND LOOK FOR IT AND BRING IT BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. SO, YOU GUYS HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER AND RESPECT EACH OTHER.

>> JUDGE: THANK YOU. NOW WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 6 AND

[6. Discuss and consider approval and adoption of revised Nueces County Medical Examiner's Office Fee Schedule, including effective date and related matters.]

FORREST MITCHELL AND WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ADOPTION, THE POTENTIAL ADOPTION OF REVISING OUR MEDICAL EXAMINER'S FEES. HE WILL SHARE, DO YOU HAVE A

POWERPOINT ON THIS? >> GUEST SPEAKER: NO JUDGE I DO

NOT. >> GUEST SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS FORREST MITCHELL DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS FOR THE NUECES COUNTY OFFICE. I'M HERE TO SEEK APPROVAL FOR A NEW FEE SCHEDULE FOR THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE. THIS IS THE FIRST SIGNIFICANT REVISION SINCE I BELIEVE NOVEMBER 2015 THE FEE SCHEDULE PRIMARILY COVERS THE LABORATORY AND AUTOPSY FEES PROVIDED BY THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE FOR AGREEMENTS FOR PARTICIPATING COUNTY SEEKING THE SERVICES. THE NEW FEE SCHEDULE IF APPROVED BY THE COURT WILL TAKE PLACE AT MINIMUM 30 DAYS AFTER THE FACT PURSUANT TO THOSE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENTS AND IF THE COMMISSIONER COURT APPROVES THE SCHEDULE WE WILL MAKE NOTIFICATIONS TO ALL OF THE PARTICIPATING GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. A NEW FEE SCHEDULE ALSO HAS OPEN RECORDS FEE CONSISTENT WITH THE STATUTES AND STATE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE.

IT ALSO INCLUDES AN INCREASE IN THE CREMATION PERMITS FOR NUECES COUNTY RESIDENTS ONLY. THE FEE SCHEDULE HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY OFFICE AND SOME OF THE AUTOPSY FEES IN THE SCHEDULE MIGHT BE HIGHER THAN THE OTHER COUNTIES IN THE STATE THEY ARE LOWER IN OTHER CATEGORIES. MANY OF THESE COUNTIES HAVE ALREADY, MANY OF THE MEDICAL EXAMINERS IN TEXAS HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN THE PROCESS OF INCREASING THEIR OWN FEES AS WELL. IMPORTANTLY SOME OF THE INCREASE IN LABORATORY FEES WILL COVER THE ACTUAL COST OF THE SERVICES WE ARE PROVIDING WHICH WE WERE NOT DOING IN THE PAST. JUDGE, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COURT MAY HAVE.

>> JUDGE: THANK YOU. I'M HAPPY TO OFFER ANY QUESTIONS BUT I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS GRATITUDE. WE HAVE BEEN WANTING TO REVIEW AND MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS SO WE CAN CAPTURE THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF DOLLARS AND YOU DID IT FOR US. I THANK YOU PROBABLY ONLY

BEEN HERE LESS THAN 90 DAYS. >> GUEST SPEAKER: YES MA'AM, 90

DAYS. >> JUDGE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? YES, I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR DALE AS FAR AS MAKING CERTAIN THAT HE HAS EVERYTHING HE NEEDS. GO AHEAD.

>> COMMISSIONER: I'M WONDERING IF YOU DONE ANY ANALYSIS BASED ON WHAT WE THINK THIS MIGHT BRING IN FOR THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE BASED ON CURRENT CASELOADS OR HISTORIC

CASELOADS. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THAT'S A VERY CHALLENGING QUESTION COMMISSIONER I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO AS MUCH DETAILED ANALYSIS ON THAT RATHER THAN MAKING SURE WERE CHARGING WHAT WE NEED TO CHARGE. THERE IS A POTENTIAL THAT WE MIGHT SEE A DIP IN THE NUMBER OF AUTOPSIES THAT WE MAY GET FROM OTHER COUNTIES BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED FEES AS SOME OF THE COUNTIES HAVE TO ADJUST TO THOSE FEES. BUT, ACCORDING TO DOCTOR FAGAN I BELIEVE HISTORY HAS SHOWN US THAT IN TIME THE NUMBER OF AUTOPSIES WILL

RETURN. >> COMMISSIONER: IF YOU EVER GET A CHANCE TO DO THAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS VERY MUCH.

>> JUDGE: IF THE COURT DOES CHOOSE IN A MOMENT TO APPROVE THESE FEES WILL PUT THEM IN AND THEY WILL BECOME EFFECT BECAUSE THAT IS PART OF IT, RIGHT.[BLEEP] DEE RECOMMENDATION IS TO MAKE THEM EFFECTIVE? YES SIR, GO AHEAD

AND ANSWER. >> GUEST SPEAKER: JUDGE, DUE TO THE AGREEMENTS WE HAVE THE FEE SCHEDULE CAN BE AMENDED WITH A

30 DAY NOTICE. >> JUDGE: DALE, HOW DO YOU SEE

IT THE SAME WAY? >> GUEST SPEAKER: DOCTOR FAGAN ENFORCE THESE ITEMS AND WE AGREE WITH THE COSTS AND BOTH DOCTOR FAGAN AND FORREST REALIZED THERE ARE MANY COSTS THAT WE SHOULD OF BEEN CHARGING IN THE PAST AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN CHARGING SYSTEM OF THESE REVENUES CAN GO UP AS FOR SAID THE SMALLER COUNTIES MIGHT DECIDE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES TO GO. BEAR COUNTY IS FULL ON THEIR STUFF IN HARRIS COUNTY THOSE THINGS GET EXPENSIVE. I BELIEVE THE REVENUE THAT WERE BRINGING IN THE COST ARE

ACCURATE. >> JUDGE: OKAY, THAT IS GREAT.

I AM EXCITED TO GET US MODERN AND KEEP US LOOKING FOR OTHER WAYS THAT YOU CAN BRING TO OUR ATTENTION WHEN EVERYTHING IS

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RIGHT AND JUST FOR THE SERVICES. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT THAT TAKES CARE OF A LOT OF THE ITEMS. I'M GOING BACK AND ORDERING THEM LOOKING ONLINE TO SEE IF WE EITHER NEED TO LET HIM KNOW THAT WE ARE READY FOR THEM OR IS NO AVAILABLE?

[2. Discuss and consider adopting Plan of Finance to issue Personal Property Finance Contractual Obligations and restructuring certain County’s outstanding debt.]

>> PUBLIC COMMENT: I AM HERE. >> JUDGE: ALL RIGHT. I DON'T YOU BUT I THANK YOU. LET'S GO TO THAT ITEM TO ISSUE THE FINANCIAL RESTRUCTURING FOR THE COUNTY DEBT. WE DO HAVE SOME HANDOUTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED BY THE COURT AND WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU ALTHOUGH I'M GOING TO ASK. DO YOU THINK MAGGIE, CAN YOU LET HIM KNOW THAT NOAH IS GOING TO START HIS PRESENTATION? GO AHEAD WE DO HAVE IT IN FRONT OF

US. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THANK YOU JUDGE AND MEMBERS OF THE COURT. WE SERVE AS THE FINANCIAL COUNTIES FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND VERY MUCH CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE GAVE YOU AT THE LAST MEETING IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE ALL WE DID WAS CHANGE THE TIMETABLE SO NOTHING CHANGED FROM THE LAST SEPTEMBER 26 MEETING. AT THIS MEETING WE ARE BASICALLY TELLING YOU THAT IF YOU SELL THIS BOND OR THIS OBLIGATION SOMETIME NOVEMBER 16 IT'S ALL PENDING ON YOU AWARDING OR DETERMINING WHAT KIND OF SOFTWARE YOU WANT TO USE. WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN US IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PREPARE FOR FINANCING BUT THIS WILL NOT BE EXECUTED UNTIL WE HEAR FROM THE COUNTY OFFICE AND FROM MICHAEL ROBINSON TO TELL US WHAT AMOUNTS TO THE FUND. RIGHT NOW THE FRONT OF IT IS $6 MILLION BUT WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT THE NUMBER WILL BE LOWER. FOR PURCHASING WE DON'T WANT TO DISCLOSE WHAT WE BELIEVE THAT AMOUNT TO BE BUT WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE TOOLS TO GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO FUND THIS PROJECT OF THE ERP SOFTWARE.

IN ANY EVENT I BELIEVE IT AT THAT IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

>> JUDGE: ALL RIGHT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE PLAN OF FINANCE? AGAIN I WILL REMIND YOU THAT IT WAS THE COURTS WILL TO NOT MAKE THE SELECTION UNTIL WE KNEW THE FUNDING AND THEN IT WAS THE COURTS WILL TO NOT MAKE A DECISION ON THE FUNDING UNTIL WE HAD A PLAN OF FINANCE. WE HAVE TAKEN SEVERAL COURTS TO REALLY BRING TO YOU THE INFORMATION THAT WAS REQUESTED.

NOW THAT IT IS THERE AND IT SHOWCASES NOT ONLY THE MEANS TO DO IT BUT A VERY AFFORDABLE MEANS TO DO IT FOR A VERY NECESSARY ITEM DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> COMMISSIONER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION. AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE TALKED TO YOU LAST TIME OR NOT BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS, I THINK WHAT I HEAR IS WE NEED TO STAY AS CLOSE AS WE CAN TO 4 AND A HALF AND NOT GO TO SIX. STAY UNDER SIX. THAT WAY WE CAN GO AHEAD AND REFINANCE FOR SIX MONTHS, A YEAR OR WHAT TO

GET THE SAME RATE. >> GUEST SPEAKER: GOOD QUESTION COMMISSIONER. I THANK YOU WILL KNOW AT THE NEXT MEETING AT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WHETHER THE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE NOT EXCEEDING SIX YEARS WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE MORE LIKE THE NUMBER THAT YOU MENTIONED. IF IT IS LOWER WE MIGHT NOT DO A BIG RESTRUCTURING. I AM HOPEFUL THAT ONCE WE HEAR WHAT THE BIDS ARE ONCE WE KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE YOU WILL BE AWARE AS TO HOW MUCH THAT PROJECT IS GOING TO COST.

MICHAEL WILL CALL ME OR WHOEVER YOU WANT TO ASSIGN WILL TELL ME HERE WE WANT TO FINANCE THIS AMOUNT WHETHER IT'S 3 MILLION, 4 MILLION, WHATEVER. THAT IS STILL PENDING. AND, WHETHER THE RESTRUCTURING IS NEEDED OR NOT THEY ARE PENDING ON HOW MUCH YOU'RE GOING TO FINANCE. ALL WERE DOING IS IDENTIFYING THE METHODOLOGY SO THAT IF YOU WANT TO PROCEED AND FUND THE PROJECT IT IS UP TO YOU. I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING AWAY FROM

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THE COURT. I HOPE THAT HELPS YOU COMMISSIONER.

>> COMMISSIONER: DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TODAY TO SAY WE AGREE OR STAY WITHIN 4 AND A HALF OR SIX?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: YOU CAN GIVE US THE EXTENT IF YOU TRUST US OR THE AMOUNT OF THE SIX. IF YOU WANT TO DO FOREIGN HALF IT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE. ULLAH I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO KNOW HOW MUCH YOU'LL NEED FOR THE SOFTWARE AT THE NEXT MEETING IF I REMEMBER MY CONVERSATION WITH MICHAEL CORRECTLY. I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE. WHAT I'M GOING TO DO WITH MY STAFF IS PREPARE THE OFFERING MEMORANDUM SO THAT WE CAN HAVE BIDDERS GIVE US AN INTEREST RATE BY NOVEMBER 16.

WERE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO CALL THE RATING AGENCY AT LEAST ONE TO SEE WHAT KIND OF A RATING THEY WILL GIVE US AND IN ORDER TO GET THERE IT TAKES ABOUT 20 TO 30 DAYS. I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING WITHOUT YOUR CONSENT UNTIL NOVEMBER 16 IF, ONLY IF YOU HAVE AWARDED OR AGREED TO A PRICE FOR THE SOFTWARE. TODAY THE ACTION IS IF YOU WANT TO AGREE TO IT SAY I DON'T WANT TO DO MORE THAN 4 AND A HALF THAT YOUR PREROGATIVE. IF YOU WANT TO DO MORE THAN SIX THAT YOUR PRIOR PREROGATIVE IF YOU WANT TO SAY THREE THAT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE.

>> JUDGE: THE ISSUE AT HAND IS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE A SNEAK PEEK OF THE COST. AND SO, I THINK WHAT'S IN OUR BEST INTEREST TODAY IS MAKE A MOTION WHICH I WILL RIGHT NOW TO ADOPT A PLAN OF FINANCE AND AT THE TIME OF SELECTION WE WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS AND WE CAN PUT A NOT TO EXCEED TODAY THAT I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU, TO DO ANYTHING LESS THAN SIX IT'S TO GIVE US ABSOLUTELY NO CHOICE AT ALL BECAUSE THEY ALL EXCEED.

IN OTHER WORDS - >> COMMISSIONER: THE ONE WAS

FOR. >> JUDGE: RIGHT. BUT IT HAS BEEN DEEMED A HIGH LEVEL OF CERTAINTY BUT DOESN'T MEET THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT'S NEEDED COUNTYWIDE AND BECAUSE OF THAT WE NEED TO GO TO THE NEXT MOST LOGICAL ONE AND LET THE COURTS DECIDE. IF WE ARE DOING AND TO SHOULD DO UP TO SIX. WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION OURSELVES AND THEN INFORM YOU LIKE YOU SAID WITH THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR. THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION TO GO UP TO SIX. OR IS IT 6,020,000?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: 6 MILLION. WE WILL FUND THE PROJECT AT

SIX. >> JUDGE: OKAY, THAT IS MY MOTION UP TO SIX AND I THINK THERE IS A SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER: WE WILL DO NO LESS THAN 4 1/2, RIGHT END.

>> JUDGE: YOU ARE COVERED IF YOU SAY TO. IF YOU WANT TO PUT A PARAMETER THAT'S FINE. EITHER WAY.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: NOT TO EXCEED SIX AND NO LESS THAN 4 AND A

HALF. >> JUDGE: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND I WANT TO CALL FOR DISCUSSION. THANK YOU

COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. >> COMMISSIONER: THIS WAS BASED ON I KNOW THAT YOU HAD WITH THE COURT ASKED BUT IT WAS NOT TO GET MORE MONEY WITH AN EXTRA BURDEN OF THE COURT. THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS COULD BE THAT THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO RESTRUCTURE AND REDUCE DEBT. RIGHT? THE PROBLEM IS WE ARE INCREASING OUR OVERALL DEBT. WE MIGHT HAVE A GOOD RATE BUT WE ARE INCREASING OUR OVERALL DEBT WHICH IS GOING TO BE HARD THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE TO PAY BACK VERSUS RESTRUCTURING.

SOMETIMES PEOPLE RESTRUCTURE DEBT TO PAY OFF DEBT. AND SO,

>> GUEST SPEAKER: THAT IS CORRECT.

>> COMMISSIONER: YOU DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE IT WASN'T

WHAT YOU ARE ASKED TO DO? >> GUEST SPEAKER: AND BY THE FULL COURT, IS HOW DO WE FUND SOMETHING WITHOUT AFFECTING PROPERTY TAXES? WITHOUT TAPPING INTO THE GENERAL FUND? THIS IS ONE MECHANISM OF IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT YOU CAN BORROW THIS MONEY, FOREIGN HALF WHICH IS WHAT THE AMOUNT WILL BE INCREASED WITH THE OVERALL DEBT BY WHAT YOU DECIDE TO FUND, IF IT IS FOREIGN HALF, IF IT'S FIVE, FIVE AND ORDER, SIX, THAT WILL BE ADDED TO YOUR OVERALL DEBT STRUCTURE. THE THING

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ABOUT AS YOU WELL KNOW THE CURRENT DEBT THAT YOU HAVE IS BEING PAID SOMEWHAT RAPIDLY. BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT YOU ARE STRUCTURED AND PAYING OFF YOUR DEBT RAPIDLY WE WILL MODIFY YOUR EXISTING ANNUAL PAYMENTS TO REDUCE YOUR ANNUAL PAYMENT OF THE CURRENT DEBT AND BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THIS NEW DEBT WITHOUT THE AFFECTED PROPERTY TAX RATE. YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. IF YOU WANT TO FINANCE SOMETHING NEW WITH DEBT AND YOU HAVE A CURRENT STRUCTURE WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR CURRENT TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW AND USE IT PROPERLY. THE PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR 2023 WAS ACTUALLY REDUCED ON THE DEBT PORTION DESPITE THE FACT THAT YOUR PAYMENTS HAVE BEEN GOING UP. WE ARE USING OUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT AS THAT WILL TELL YOU IF YOU ARE IN THE BUDGET SESSIONS. WE ARE USING OUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT TO UPSET THE PROPERTY TAXES. NOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THE SOFTWARE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING. YOU CAN ALWAYS FIND FOREIGN HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN THE GENERAL FUND JUNO WILL COME AT THE

EXPENSE OF SOMETHING ELSE. >> COMMISSIONER: WITH DOING IT THIS WAY I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THIS AND FIGURE IT OUT MYSELF WITHOUT ASKING BUT AGAIN THIS WAS GIVEN TO US SO.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: IS THIS THE SAME PRESENTATION I MET AT THE

LAST MEETING SEPTEMBER 27. >> COMMISSIONER: OKAY, DOES THIS HAVE AN EFFECTS, DOES IT CHANGE HOW THE RATE DECREASES? WE HAVE THE INS TAX RATE AND IT GOES DOWN BECAUSE AS WE PAY OFF OUR DEBT AND DO BETTER WILL THIS ELONGATE THAT?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: THINK OF IT AS THIS. TODAY YOUR PAYMENT IS 49 MILLION ACTUALLY 15.6 THAT IS THE WAY IT WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FROM PREVIOUS FINANCINGS. WE CAME FROM 14 AND A HALF MILLION IN 2022 THE NEXT YEAR BEING 15,000,000.6.

THIS IS ONE YEAR PAYMENT. YOU ALLOCATE FOUR CENTS TIME TO SORT PROPERTY VALUE TIMES 100 AND YOU COME UP WITH THE TAX LEVY TO HELP YOU PAY 15,000,006. THEN YOU SAY TO ME, OKAY, WE HAVE A CHALLENGE. CAN WE FINANCE FOREIGN HALF MILLION OR 6 MILLION? OKAY, WERE GOING TO GET FOREIGN HALF OR 6 MILLION AND THAT REQUIRES ANNUAL PAYMENT. IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO THOSE ON A LEVEL BASIS YOU EXPECT TO DO BECAUSE YOU ARE A DOUBLE LEG CREDIT WERE GOING TO MODIFY YOUR PAYMENTS FROM 15 MILLION DOWNWARD TO CREATE CAPACITY FOR YOUR NEW ANNUAL PAYMENT AND THAT WILL IMPACT THE ULTIMATE

GOAL OF YOUR TAX RATE. >> COMMISSIONER: THE ANNUAL PAYMENTS WILL NOT BE HIGHER THAN 15.6?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: THAT'S RIGHT IT WILL DROP TO 14.9 THERE ABOUT NEXT YEAR. THEY HAVE ABOUT 600,000, 700,000. IT COMES AT THE EXPENSE OF A THINK OF IT LIKE THIS. IF YOU AND YOUR WIFE HAVE A MORTGAGE FOR 30 YEARS AND YOU PAY IT OFF AND YOU SAY YOU WANT TO PAY THIS OFF IN 15 YOU MAKE YOUR PAYMENTS HIGHER, YOU FRONTLOAD THEM. THEN YOU REALIZE I LOST MY JOB I CAN'T PAY IT BACK NOW LET'S GO BACK TO THE BANK AND SEE IF WE CAN RESTRUCTURE THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER: WE SHOULD SEE SOME BUDGET SAVINGS IF I'M

HEARING YOU RIGHT? >> GUEST SPEAKER: YES ARE GOING TO HAVE SAVINGS BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE A HIGHER

TAX. >> COMMISSIONER: IF YOU SAY IT'S GOING FROM 15.6 TO 14.9 IS THAT GOING TO SHOW UP IN THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET AS A SAVINGS OR SOMETHING THAT WE CAN OFFSET

A BUDGET CHALLENGE? >> GUEST SPEAKER: IN THE YEARS TO COME THE WAY THAT THE DEBT IS BEING PAID YOU WILL GET BACK TO THE 15 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR LEVEL OR 14 AND A HALF

WHATEVER THAT NUMBER MAY BE. >> COMMISSIONER: IF WE DID NOT DO THIS WE COULD REDUCE OUR DEBT AND DEBT PAYMENT WHICH WOULD SHOW US A BUDGETARY SAVINGS IN THE GENERAL FUND.

IF WE RESTRUCTURED THE DEBT, LOWERED OUR PAYMENTS, PAID OFF SOME DEBT AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO OR HOW TO PAY FOR THE SOFTWARE OR WE FINANCE IT AND THERE'S NO EFFECTS ON THE PAYMENT OR ON THE TAX RATE.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN WE LOOK AT YOU

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AS A UNIT WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOUR OBJECTIVE IS. AND CONSISTENTLY FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS YOU'VE BEEN VERY CONSISTENT WITH TELLING ME YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT MORE DEBT IT DOES NOT IMPACT OUR TAX RATE. BASED ON EVERYTHING YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU AT THE GENERAL FUND DEBT SERVICE FUND OTHER DEBT ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED IN THE PAST THE OTHER WAY TO GET YOU THE FOREIGN HALF OR 6 MILLION IS THROUGH THIS MECHANISM. OKAY? NOW THAT I CAN GET YOU THIS MECHANISM YOU COME BACK AND SAY DON'T FORGET ABOUT MY TAX RATE. NOW I'M GETTING IN THE TAX RATE IN THE WAY TO GET YOU THERE, THE INTEREST RACE ARE A DRIVING FORCE. TODAY IS OCTOBER 12 AND WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO BORROW MONEY UNTIL THE 16TH. THE INTEREST RATES MAY RISE AND THAT BASES IT ON HOW WE STRUCTURE THESE THINGS. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO KEEP YOU POSTED THROUGH THE PROCESS OF PRICING SO YOU ARE FULLY AWARE.

WE DON'T NEED SURPRISES. >> JUDGE: WE KNOW THE FED'S ARE GOING TO RAISE INTEREST RATES SO WE NEED TO HURRY. WE THINK.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: AT SOME POINT AFTER THIS MEETING IF YOU CHOOSE TO GO FORWARD IS TO LET ME KNOW HOW MUCH YOU WILL BE NEEDING. AND WE WILL LOOK AT THAT.

>> JUDGE: YOU PUT TOGETHER A VERY GOOD PACKAGE AND A THOROUGH ONE. HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ARE THERE ANY LAST QUESTIONS BECAUSE I LIKE TO MOVE ON? OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF MAKING CERTAIN THAT WE HAVE THIS ADOPTED PLAN OF FINANCE AS PRESENTED BY THE FINANCIAL ADVISORS PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY. KNOWING, JUST USE OUR TIME WISELY YOU ITEM NUMBER 12. YOU'VE DONE SOME GOOD WORK FOR US DO YOU WANT TO QUEUED THAT UP NOW? WE WILL COME BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 10 SHORTLY PEERED BY THE WAY FOR THE CLERK I DO SEE THAT WE'VE DONE ONE THROUGH NINE SUCCESSFULLY. I KNOW SOMETIMES WE JUMP BUT WE ARE BACK ON TRACK. I'M ALSO MINDFUL THAT DOCTOR FAGAN IS ON THE LINE AND I'M GOING TO TAKE UP HIS ITEM NEXT. SO, IT IF WE COULD HAVE.

>> COMMISSIONER: IS HE ON THE TURNS?

>> JUDGE: NO, I AM MINDFUL THAT WE WILL LET HIM FINISH AND THEN. GO TO DOCTOR FAGAN. I SEE HIM ON THE SCREEN. ALL RIGHT, WILL YOU -ARE YOU STILL WITH US? I LOST YOUR FACE.

THERE WE GO. IF WE COULD GO TO ITEM NUMBER 12 WE HAVE PREPARED DOCUMENTATION REGARDING SOME FINANCIAL TERMS THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT WE MIGHT NOT WANT TO DECIDE TODAY WHAT

YOU'VE GOT SOME TERMS FOR US. >> YES MADAM JUDGE AND MEMBERS OF THE ART I AM.[INDISCERNABLE] YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND WHAT WOULD IT COST THE COUNTY TO PROVIDE OR EXTEND THE BENEFIT TO NUMBER 2 WHICH HAS TO DO WITH THAT CHANNEL IF YOU WERE TO GIVE ANOTHER 18 OR 20 YEARS FOR THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WHICH WAS SIGNED BACK IN 2000 THANKFULLY THANKFULLY IT WAS WITH THIS ORIGINAL VALUE BACK IN 2000 WAS A LOT LESS THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY. WE BORROWED FROM OUR GOOD FRIEND HEATHER HOLBERG AT THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND IN THAT RESENTATION SHE INCLUDED AN ASSUMPTION TO WHAT IT WOULD COST THE COUNTY IF THEY DID A 75 TO 50 PERCENT OF AN ADDED ABATEMENT. AND BASICALLY HER NUMBERS WERE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN OURS BUT IN THE BALLPARK.

BASICALLY IF YOU WERE TO GIVE A 75 PERCENT BENEFIT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS THE VALUE OF THAT WILL BE 1 MILLION UP THROUGH 2027. IF YOU DID 50 PERCENT THEY WOULD BE AT 752,000 IN

2023 AND 871 IN 2027. >> JUDGE: HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

DO WE HAPPEN TO HAVE THAT IN WRITTEN FORM?

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>> GUEST SPEAKER: I EMAILED YOU THAT. OKAY, IT IS IN YOUR INBOX? I APOLOGIZE. IT IS ALWAYS HELPFUL TO HAVE IT ON THE SCREEN. WE ARE GOING TO GET IT FOR YOU LEE, JUST ONE SECOND THAT BASICALLY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS IT IS 75 PERCENT SO CURRENTLY WE ARE ABOUT 1.6 IS THAT RIGHT, NOE?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES THEY ARE COLLECTING 1,000,000.6 AND YOU WANT TO GET AWAY FROM IT. THAT IS A PUBLIC RECORD AND NOT.

RIGHT NOW. >> JUDGE: TAKE IT AT FACE VALUE. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT YOUR CALCULATIONS WHICH WILL SHOW ON THE SCREEN SHORTLY SHOWS THAT 75 CENTS IS 1.1 AND 50 PERCENT WOULD BE 750 IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 AS WE ESCALATE TO 2027 THOSE NUMBERS GROW. WHY? BECAUSE WE PREDICT GROWTH EVEN THOUGH ITS SLOW GROWTH YOU PREDICT THOSE NUMBERS WILL INCREASE. I GUESS WE WILL WAIT FOR THOSE NUMBERS BUT AGAIN REMEMBER LAST TIME WE SAID WE ARE TRYING TO GIVE GUIDANCE HERE FROM THE COURT SO THAT WHEN WE MAKE THESE DETERMINATIONS AND WE GO TO TO OUR TOURIST BOARD MEETING WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR. I THOUGHT THAT 75 PERCENT LOOKS GOOD WE COULD EVEN DO IT FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME AT 75 PERCENT AND THEN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME AT 50 PERCENT.

AND THAT'S ACCEPTABLE. >> GUEST SPEAKER: I WILL TELL THE JUDGE THAT DEL MAR COLLEGE DOES 60.

>> JUDGE: OKAY. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THE CITY IS

AT 75 AND DEL MAR IS THAT SIX. >> JUDGE: SHE SAID LAST NIGHT.

SHE'S GOING TO GET IT. IT IS COMING UP TO YOU RIGHT NOW. GO AHEAD AND ASK YOUR QUESTIONS AND WE WILL REFER TO IT IN JUST

A SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER: I DON'T KNOW IF NOE CAN SHARE THIS IN REAL TIME OR NOT BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY CONTINGENT ON SEEING THESE NUMBERS IS 75 PERCENT FUNDED FOR FIVE YEARS AND THEN WE GO DOWN FIVE PERCENT EVERY YEAR UNTIL YEAR 10 AND THEN THAT WOULD LEVEL US OFF FROM YOUR 11

TO 20TH. >> JUDGE: I LIKE THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER: THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING TO TRY TO GO TODAY.

>> JUDGE: AND I FEEL LIKE THEY ARE CLOSE TO THAT LISTENING TO THEIR MEETING I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE MADE A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU HAD ASKED NOE TO GET THOSE NUMBERS.

WE LIKED IT IN THEORY BUT NOW WE KNOW WHERE THERE'S NUMBERS

ARE. >> COMMISSIONER: WE ARE IN 2022

THUS THE FIRST FIVE YEARS. >> JUDGE: NOE, SORRY, LEAH, WILL DO IT RIGHT THERE. DO ME A FAVOR SEE WHAT THE PDF IS.

>> COMMISSIONER: MAYBE JUDGE WHAT WE CAN DO IS GET HIM TO PLUG THAT IN EARLY QUICK. THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO MAKE IN THE FORM OF A MOTION'S WE COULD GET THAT DONE AND THEN WHEN WE GO TO OUR BOARD MEETING ON THE 25TH WE CAN SAY WE HAVE ALREADY PASSED THIS. WE HOPE YOU LIKE IT. AND OBVIOUSLY WE CAN GET IT BACK IN TWO WEEKS BUT THE THOUGHT WOULD BE WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP READING THIS ACT WE COULD DO IT ON THE 25TH AND THAT WE WERE READY TO VOTE ON IT. I GUESS I WILL MAKE THAT

AS A MOTION? >> COMMISSIONER: I'M SORRY?

>> JUDGE: I WILL SECOND THAT. WE CAN MOTION BUT JUST MEANT

IT. JUST SET IT. >> COMMISSIONER: AND THAT WOULD BE FOR THE CLERK YEAR ONE THROUGH FIVE 75 PERCENT FUNDED AT THE CURRENT VALUE AND THEN YEARS SIX THROUGH 10 EACH YEAR IT WILL GO DOWN FIVE PERCENT EACH YEAR SO IT GOES 70, 6560, 55, 50 AND THEN THERE IS 11 THROUGH 20 IT WOULD LEVEL AND SAVE 50 PERCENT. I THINK THAT IS A REAL WIN FOR EVERYBODY AND IT KEEPS IT ACTIVE AND PROVIDES A DEFINITE REVENUE SOURCE FOR THE COUNTY THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE AND HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE A MODEL AND AS WE DO THEY WILL GO FORWARD WITH WHAT WE USE. I'M NOT MAKING THAT AS A MOTION BUT TO BE

CONSISTENT. >> JUDGE: I LIKE THAT. THERE'S OTHER DECISIONS TO BE MADE BUT LET'S VOTE ON THAT AND ASK QUESTIONS. IT WOULD BE A SLIDING SCALE DOWNWARDS. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT MODEL IS HOW I'M GOING TO PHRASE IT. I WILL SECOND. IT IS A MODEL.

>> COMMISSIONER: 27? >> JUDGE: IT WOULD GO FOR 20

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YEARS. >> COMMISSIONER: OKAY.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: I MAY ADD COMMISSIONER AND MEMBERS OF THE COURT YOU MIGHT BE WISE TO SEE IF YOU CAN GO ANOTHER 20 YEARS.

I THINK THERE IS A STATUTE OF LIMITATION I THINK THERE'S 40 IN THE BEGINNING OF 2000 AND WILL ONLY GO 2040 AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK THAT IT MAY BE WORTH TALKING TO.

>> JUDGE: IT MAY BE SUBJECT TO THE PROVISION.

>> COMMISSIONER: YES, RIGHT. WE WILL USE THE UP TWO WORDS IF ALL WE CAN GO THROUGH IS 18 WE WILL STILL HAVE THE MODEL IN

PLACE. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THAT IS

CORRECT. THANK YOU. >> JUDGE: VERY GOOD CLARIFICATION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

NOE THERE STILL ANOTHER MATTER AND BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WERE GOING TO HAVE COURT NEXT WEEK IF YOU NEED TIME DON'T HESITATE TO SAY IT BUT ONE OF THEM IS BOUNDARIES AND IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU THE NEXT THING IS, AT WHAT PACE DO YOU START? IN OTHER WORDS TYPICALLY THE LAW PROVIDES IS IT AN EXTENSION IN OTHER WORDS YOU ALLOW EVERYBODY TO KEEP THE SAME BASE OR DO YOU GO AHEAD AND RECAPTURE SOME OF THE BASE AND THEREFORE STARTED AT A NEW NUMBER? AND I DON'T KNOW IF I AM REALLY READY TO ABSORB THE FINANCIALS AT THIS MOMENT THAT I WANTED TO BRING THAT FORWARD.

>> COMMISSIONER: DO YOU WANT TO EXTEND THAT FIRST?

>> JUDGE: NUMBER IN OTHER WORDS ARE WE GOING TO START THIS NEW

EXTENSION AT 2022 VALUES? OR - >> GUEST SPEAKER: IF THAT IS YOUR POLICY. NORMALLY THEY WANT YOU TO GO BACK TO THE

BEGINNING OF TIME IN 2000. >> WERE IN NUMBERS BASED ON GOING BACKWARDS? THAT'S WHY WE ARE REDUCING THE PERCENTAGE.

>> JUDGE: WE STARTED ZERO NOT ZERO BUT A VERY SMALL NUMBER.

IT'S A VERY HARD PILL TO SWALLOW.

>> COMMISSIONER: LIKE YOU SAID I THINK THEY'RE HEADING THAT

DIRECTION. >> GUEST SPEAKER: WE CAN BRING

IT BACK. >> JUDGE: IF THERE'S ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION IF ANYTHING IT'S GROWN BY 200 PERCENT. IF IT WORKS CORRECTLY IT'S DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH THE BOUNDARIES. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BRING BACK PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY. REMEMBER WE DON'T EVER LOSE ANY DOLLARS WE JUST EARMARKED THEM IN A CERTAIN WAY.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: THINK OF THEM AS THE FIRST. IT IS BEEN DONE FOR THE BENEFIT OF LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS AND SO FORTH.

>> JUDGE: THAT WAS THE THEORY. >> GUEST SPEAKER: HOPEFULLY WHATEVER CASH THEY ACCUMULATE THEY CAN USE THAT FOR THAT PURPOSE. EVEN I KNOW YOU CAN GET HIT BY A HURRICANE OUT THERE AND THERE WON'T BE ENOUGH MONEY TO REPAIR ALL OF THAT.

>> JUDGE: THAT'S A CONCERN. THIS GIVES US A DIRECTION IN THE THEORY OF THE CASE IS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO START OVER AGAIN. BUT AGAIN I DON'T KNOW ANY DIFFERENT. I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION. THIS GIVES US ENOUGH TO GO TO TO THE MEETING WITH THE NEXT PIECE IS THE BOUNDARY PIECE WHICH IS WE HAD SCOTT CROSS BRING US THE RIGHT CALL IT METES AND BOUNDS LEGAL DESCRIPTION WITH REGARDS TO INCLUDING THE PECCARY CHANNEL NATURE PARK AND BAYOU PARK AND THAT IS WHAT IS REPRESENTED IN YOUR PACKET. MY MOTION IS TO INCLUDE THOSE NEW BOUNDARIES TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE TOURS BUT RECOMMENDED IN HERE. BY DOING THAT FIRST OF ALL WE COMPLY WITH THE LAW AND SO WE LOOKED AT THE MAP AND IT IS CONTIGUOUS SO TAKE YOUR LITTLE GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES AND THEN NEXT TO IT ON BOTH SIDES WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT COASTAL PARKS AND THIS WAY BY US PROMOTING THESE BOUNDARIES WE CAN REST ASSURED THAT OUR DOLLARS CAN COME BACK IN TO HELP US INSIDE THESE COASTAL PARKS. IT WILL BE A FUNDING SOURCE FOR THESE COASTAL PARKS. THE BATTERY CHANNEL NATURE PARK IS A GREAT WAY WE CAN COME OUT OF THE BOX AND SAY COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HELP US FIX THESE ROAD. RIGHT?

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>> COMMISSIONER: I THOUGHT WE DID THAT AT THE LAST MEETING?

>> JUDGE: WE DID THAT THESE ARE THE LEAPS AND BOUNDS. I HAD TO

GO LOOK FOR THE LEGAL. >> GUEST SPEAKER: YOU MADE IN THE PRIOR MOTION TO INCLUDE EVERY PROJECT POSSIBLE.

>> I WANT TO MAKE IT TIGHTER BECAUSE YOU SUGGESTED WE USE THE LEGAL LANGUAGE AND LET ME GO BACK.

>> COMMISSIONER: SO MOVED. I RECOMMEND THAT IT IS LOOKED AT LEGALLY. SO, THE METES AND BOUNDS IN LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET AND THEY HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED AS PROPER. I WILL SECOND THE MOTION COMMISSIONER CHESNEY AND

[3. Discuss and consider public application to close/discontinue/abandon a portion of West River View Drive, a designated road, pursuant to Texas Transportation Code Section 251.052.]

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY, CARA HELPED ME REMEMBER THAT WE DO WANT TO HEAR FROM WE WILL SEE WHAT THE COURTS WILL IS BUT WE WANT TO SEE FROM YOU, MR. HAGAN BACHER YOU SIGNED UP AND YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE US A LITTLE INFORMATION. IT WILL BE THE COURT'S DECISION IF WE MOVE ON ANY ACTION. THEY JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER: MY MOTION WAS TO GO IN. I DON'T MIND A

HEARING. >> JUDGE: YOU ARE WELCOME TO TAKE THE PODIUM. WE CAN USE IT FOR ONLINE PURPOSEPURPOSE IS TO TELL US WHAT YOU HAVE HERE TODAY.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT: MY NAME IS AL HIGGINBOTHAM, ADDRESS]. THIS IS A REQUEST TO CLOSE A PORTION OF WEST RIVERVIEW DRIVE. I HAVE A PREPARED STATEMENT IF IT'S OKAY

I WILL JUST READ THIS. >> JUDGE: THAT'S FINE.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT: NUMBER 1 THE RIVERSIDE ACRE PLAT WAS DONE IN 56. WEST RIVER DRIVE A SEPARATE ROAD AS FOR THE PLAT WAS NEVER AND HAS NEVER BEEN OPENED AS A DRIVABLE ROAD.

THERE'S NEVER BEEN MORE THAN GRASS TREES AND PICNIC TABLES.

ALSO, NEITHER HAS IT EVER BEEN NEEDED FOR OR USED FOR ANY TYPE OF DRAINAGE PURPOSES. BASICALLY IT'S BEEN IN A STATE OF SUSPENDED ANIMATION FOR 56 YEARS. THERE'S NO DRAINAGE ISSUES SUGGESTED FOR 56 YEARS AND IT'S NEVER BEEN NECESSARY.

WE ARE NOT REQUESTING THE CLOSING OF AN ACTUAL DRIVABLE ROAD. NO PUBLIC UTILITIES WILL BE AFFECTED BY THIS CLOSING.

THOSE RIGHTS WHEREVER APPLICABLE WILL BE TOTALLY PROTECTED. UPON CLOSING THE FIVE ADJACENT OR CONTIGUOUS PROPERTY OWNERS WILL BECOME THE FEW SIMPLE TITLE OWNERS FOR A PORTION OF THE ROAD BEING CLOSED BY AN ORDER OF THIS COURT. NUECES COUNTY WILL RESERVE ANY AND ALL RIGHTS WHICH THEY CURRENTLY CONTROL. THE PROPERTY WILL THEN BE APPRAISED BY THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND PLACED ON THE TAX ROLLS. NUECES COUNTY HAS ALREADY LOST 56 YEARS OF TAXES ON THIS PROPERTY WHICH AGAIN HAS NEVER AND WILL NEVER BE USED FOR THE PURPOSES FOR WHICH IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED.

THIS ROAD HAS ALWAYS BEEN CLOSED. IT HAS BEEN ABSORBED INTO THIS COMMUNITY FOR 66 YEARS. IF CLOSED THE ONLY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEFORE AND AFTER WILL BE THE TAX INCOME IT WILL REDUCE FOR NUECES COUNTY AND THE FACT THAT THE COUNTY WILL NO LONGER HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT. TO FURTHER DEFEND THIS REQUEST UNDER SECTION 251.057 OF THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE ABANDONMENT OF COUNTY ROAD A COUNTY ROAD IS ABANDONED WHEN ITS USE HAS BEEN SO INFREQUENT THAT ONE OR MORE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS HAS CLOSED THE ROAD WITH DEFENSE FOR CONTINUOUSLY 20 YEARS. THE ABANDONED ROAD MAY BE REESTABLISHED AS A PUBLIC ROAD ONLY IN THE MANNER PROVIDED BY ESTABLISHING A NEW ROAD. THE LEGAL DEFINITION OF A FENCE DEFENSE REFERS TO A STRUCTURE WHICH ENCLOSES WHOLLY OR PARTIALLY SOME PIECE OF REAL PROPERTY SO AS TO IMPEDE INGRESS AND EGRESS. IT MAY BE COMPOSED OF ANYTHING SO AS IT CREATES A LINE OF OBSTACLE SERVING THIS PURPOSE. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS REMIND THE COURT THAT THIS REQUEST TO CLOSE THIS ABANDONED PORTION OF W. RIVERVIEW DOCTOR WILL REQUIRE A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO BE SUCCESSFUL. WE HAVE FULLY COMPLIED WITH ALL TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE REQUIREMENTS.

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>> JUDGE: THANK YOU. >> PUBLIC COMMENT: ONE LAST LITTLE THING. THIS IS A REQUEST. ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WANT TO DO IS UNITE THEIR PROPERTIES AND MOVE ON. IT IS A SIMPLE ISSUE. NUECES COUNTY WOULD NOT BE SURRENDERING ANYTHING IN CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING

THIS ROAD. >> JUDGE: YOUR BACKGROUND YOU DIDN'T MENTION IT WOULD YOU INCLUDE THAT FOR THE COURSE

RECORD IT? >> PUBLIC COMMENT: I'M SORRY?

>> JUDGE: YOUR EXPERIENCE OR BACKGROUND IS AT THE VERY TOP CAN YOU READ THAT FOR THE RECORD SO WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE?

>> PUBLIC COMMENT: ABSOLUTELY I WILL. FOR OVER 45 YEARS I OWNED A TITLE COMPANY IN KINGSVILLE, TEXAS I WAS THE THIRD GENERATION FOR THE PAST 15 YEARS I PRESENTED TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE ISSUES ROAD CLOSINGS AND OPENINGS BEFORE THE KLEEBERG COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT. ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS OR THE COUNTY JUDGE WOULD SERVE AS A RECOMMENDATION IF ANYBODY WANTED TO CONTACT THEM.

>> JUDGE: THANK YOU. >> PUBLIC COMMENT: THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER: I THINK WHAT I WILL DO WITH MY MOTION IS COME BACK ON THE 26TH AND DECIDE WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL BE ACCEPTING THAT FROM THE COUNTY

ATTORNEY OFFICER. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THERE WAS SOMETHING SENT OUT AND I WILL FORWARD THAT AGAIN BUT YOU ALL NEED TO DECIDE UNANIMOUSLY WHAT YOU DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO

WHAT IS ASKED. >> COMMISSIONER: WHAT DATE?

THE 16TH? >> JUDGE: THE NEXT COURT, WE HAVE TWO COURTS BEFORE THE 16TH.

>> COMMISSIONER: THAT'S FINE IS NOT URGENT.

>> JUDGE: YOU WANT TO TABLE UNTIL THE 16TH?

>> COMMISSIONER: THAT'S FINE. >> COMMISSIONER: I HAVE A DERMATOLOGIST APPOINTMENT NEXT WEDNESDAY BUT I CAN RETURN

ANYTIME. >> JUDGE: GIVES THEM A CHANCE

TO- >> PUBLIC COMMENT: NOVEMBER 16? RETURN AND THEN WE WILL DISCUSS THIS FURTHER?

>> JUDGE: WE WILL VOTE ON IT THROUGH THE 16TH. WE WILL GET A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT AND WE WILL PROCEED ON THE 16TH. I WISH WE COULD DO IT TODAY BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO DELAY BUT I THINK THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND AND WE WILL SEE IF THERE'S CONSENSUS WE ALWAYS LOOK FOR THAT.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT: YOUR ASSISTANT HAS MY EMAIL ADDRESS IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT YOU WILL NEED PRIOR TO THAT TIME, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

>> JUDGE: JENNY, FOR CLARIFICATION WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THE ADVISORY THAT WE CAN DO EXACTLY AS SUGGESTED WE JUST HAVE TO DO IT IN A UNANIMOUS FASHION.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: AND ALL THE NOTICES NEED TO BE.

>> JUDGE: ALL THE NOTICES NEED TO BE DENSE YOU COULD HELP US PREP FOR THE 16TH ON THE AGENDA ITEM SO IT IS PROPERLY NOTED TO

TAKE EXACTLY THAT ACTION. >> GUEST SPEAKER: YES, WE CAN DO THAT FOR THE COURT BUT NOT FOR THE PUBLIC AT LARGE. I BELIEVE THEY HAVE SOME OBLIGATIONS OF THEIR OWN.

>> JUDGE: EXACTLY BUT FOR US YOU WOULD HELP US WRITE THAT? AND HOW MANY PROPERTY OWNERS? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU MENTIONED.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT: THERE ARE FIVE CONTIGUOUS PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WE ARE REQUESTING TO BE CLOSED.

>> JUDGE: THEY ALL AGREE? >> PUBLIC COMMENT: THEY ARE DAN MURPHY, MATTHEW CRAIGIE AND HIS WIFE, DEVON DANIELNEVELS AND HIS WIFE, JOHN JACK THURMAN AND HIS WIFE GREG LIST STRAP AND HIS WIFE. THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE PROPERTY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD. AND ON RIVERSIDE ACRES SIDE.

>> JUDGE: THEY ARE ALL IN CONCURRENCE? THEY ALL AGREE?

>> PUBLIC COMMENT: YES, YOU HAVE A PETITION SIGNED BY ALL OF THOSE PARTIES. LIKE I SAID A NOTICE WAS FILED AND POSTED THE PETITION IS SIGNED AND WE HAVE ALL 10 OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED THE PETITION LIKE I SAY WE ARE INCOMPLETE COMPLAINTS FOR THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE.

>> COMMISSIONER: WE WOULD HAVE TO SEE WHO'S JOB THAT IS IF

WERE PLOTTING. >> PUBLIC COMMENT: ONE THING IF IT'S OKAY, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ FOR THE TIME THAT HE CONTRIBUTED TO US IN

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PREPARATION FOR THIS REQUEST. >> JUDGE: ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF

THIS? YOU ARE NOT READY? >> PUBLIC COMMENT: I'M NOT

READY. >> JUDGE: OKAY, ALL RIGHT. I WILL WAIT. YOU GOT A MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL THE 16TH. DID SOMEBODY SECOND? DID YOU SECOND? WAS IT YOU, COMMISSIONER BRENT CHESNEY? WHO WAS THE MOTION?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: Y'ALL HAD THE MOTION THIS IS BEEN THE SAME

MOTION FOR A WHILE. >> JUDGE: WHO DID IT? I JUST ASKED HIM HE DIDN'T SAY HE FORGOT. OKAY, A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE UNTIL THE 16TH.

>> COMMISSIONER: AT THAT TIME A VOTE WILL BE TAKEN.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT: IS THERE A PARTICULAR TIME?

>> JUDGE: I WILL BE CERTAIN THAT WE PUT YOU AT NUMBER 1 ON

THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM OKAY? >> PUBLIC COMMENT: OKAY.

>> JUDGE: AGAIN WE THANK YOU FOR COMING AND PRESENTING THIS

INFORMATION. >> PUBLIC COMMENT: THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR ENTERTAINING THIS REQUEST.

>> JUDGE: ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OKAY, THANK YOU. RIGHT THAT TAKES US THROUGH ITEMS ONE THROUGH NINE AND WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE PRESSING. AMANDA, YOU PROBABLY NEED TO GET I THINK WE HAVE ONE FROM I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE IN HR THAT ARE ASKING TO BE

[2. Discuss and consider reclassifying Assistant Veteran Treatment Court Coordinator position in Department 2183 (Veterans Treatment Court) from Pay Group 16 to Pay Group 19 through June 30, 2023.]

ADVANCED TO GET THEM BACK TO COURT SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ASSISTANT VETERAN TREE COORDINATOR ITEM D2. JUDGE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WAITING FOR US, YOU WILL EXPLAIN BUT BASICALLY COURT THIS IS TO MOVE, OR GOING TO, THIS IS SUPER SAD WE ARE GOING TO LOSE AN AMAZING PERSON AMANDA DALE LASORDA AND THIS IS TO HELP US MAKE THAT TRANSITION YOUR JUDGE WILL YOU PROVIDE THAT INFO?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON JUDGE AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. WE ARE FROM THE FIFTH DISTRICT COURT AND PRESIDING JUDGE OF NUECES COUNTY TREATMENT COURT. THE TWO AGENDA ITEMS WE HAVE INVOLVED THE VETERANS COURT.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE CHURCH DONATION SO WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN FOR JURY DUTY HAVE AN OPTION TO DONATE THEIR MONEY OR KEEP THEIR MONEY. WHAT WERE ASKING YOU IS TO PUT NUECES COUNTY COURT AS AN OPTION ON THAT DONATION. WE DO RECEIVE $200,000 IN GRANT MONEY BUT THAT IS GRANT SPECIFIC AND SO WE HAVE SOME SERVICES OR ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. THIS MONEY WOULD HELP PAY FOR THOSE SERVICES AND I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. LET'S SAY WE HAD A VETERAN THAT HAD A JIMMY BUFFETT NIGHT AND HE WAKES UP WITH A TATTOO EVEN THOUGH JIMMY BUFFETT LIKED HIS TATTOO MAYBE THIS VETERAN DOESN'T GET US GOING TO COST QUITE A BIT OF MONEY TO HAVE IT REMOVED. AND SO, INSTEAD HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO FIND THE MONEY SOMEWHERE SO THIS FUND WILL HELP PAY FOR THAT. I'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER EXAMPLE. WE HAD A VETERAN WHO HAD A BIG DRINKING PROBLEM I WAS GOING TO SEND HIM TO REHAB HERE AND HE WAS WORRIED ABOUT LOSING HIS POSSESSIONS AND RENT AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY WAY TO PROTECT THAT HE'S GOING TO REHAB BECAUSE HE'S DRINKING A LOT. SO, I HAVE TWO ATTORNEYS ON STAFF SO LISA HARRIS I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW HER SHE PAID FOR HIS RENT WHEN HE GOT BACK INTO TOWN. THIS FUND WOULD HELP PAY FOR THAT AS WELL, TOO.

AND AT THIS TIME I WILL HAVE AMANDA TELL YOU THE EXACT

LANGUAGE WERE LOOKING FOR. >> JUDGE: GO AHEAD AMANDA.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: THANK YOU JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS PAID THIS REQUEST IS TO CREATE A SPECIAL NEW REVENUE DEPARTMENT WERE THOSE DONATIONS RECEIVED FOR VETERAN TREATMENT CORE SERVICES KIDD THIS IS OUTLINING GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 61.00385 SPECIFICALLY. IT SHOULD BE ATTACHED TO THE

LETTER THAT WAS PROVIDED. >> JUDGE: JUDGE DID YOU SAY HR?

>> COMMISSIONER: WHAT NUMBER ARE WE AT?

>> JUDGE: HANG ON. THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION I CALLED FOR THE HR PART OF IT AND AMANDA IS OKAY. YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT BUT I HAD CALLED, THE REASON THERE IS CONFUSION HERE IS THAT WE WERE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT THE RE-CLASS OF THE POSITION SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT BOTH. JUST BECAUSE I WENT AHEAD AND ANNOUNCED THE POSITION YOU ADDRESS THAT ONE

FIRST? >> COMMISSIONER: THIS IS THE

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RECLASSIFICATION OF SILVA. >> JUDGE: THAT'S WHAT I CALLED FOR. THREE AS YOU ARE AWARE SINCE I TOOK OVER THE CAPTIONER STANDING BY... COURT WE RECEIVED AN AMOUNT FROM 2000 TO 200,000 EVERY YEAR AND SO WE APPLIED FOR A COURT COURT NADER POSITION TO HELP AMANDA COORDINATE THE VETERANS HERE IN OUR SYSTEM AND THE TREATMENT SERVICES. THAT IS JUST AN SILVA HE'S BEEN DOING THE JOB FOR A YEAR NOW HE HAS A FOUR YEAR DEGREE AS JUSTICE ADMINISTRATION AND SO AT THIS TIME I WILL LET AMANDA GO FORWARD.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: WE ARE ASKING THAT HE BE RECLASSIFIED FROM A 16 TO 19 FRIDAY WILL BE MY LAST DAY WITH NUECES COUNTY IN OFFICE AND HE IS GOING TO TAKE OVER QUITE A BIT OF THE THINGS THAT I DO ON A DAILY BASIS. IT IS ALL TO SERVE THE VETERANS IN THE PROGRAM AND TO OUTLINE A COUPLE OF THINGS HE'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR COORDINATING THE STAFF MEETINGS AND ALL OF THESE DUTIES ARE NOT IN HIS CURRENT JOB DESCRIPTION HERE TO BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT IT WHEN HE ORIGINALLY, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY CREATED THE POSITION THIS IS SOMETHING NEW TO THE COURT.

AND AS IT'S DEVELOPED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS HE HAS TAKEN ON MORE JOB DUTIES. HE WILL START TAKING ON COORDINATING WITH THE OTHER TWO COUNTIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE JUDGE IS WHERE HE NEEDS TO BE WHEN IT COMES TO VETERANS COURT AND HIS REGULAR COURT DOCKETS HE WILL BE WITH THE COUNTY COURTS AND LAW WHEN NEW VETERANS ARE ACCEPTED INTO THE COURT HE WILL BE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN FOR THE GOVERNMENT CODE 16 HOURS OF CLE. HE WON'T WILL HAVE TO STEP UP AND TAKE THAT ON AS WELL. WE WILL ALSO NEED NEW STAFF. AS THE TEAM CHANGES HE WILL TAKE ON THAT DUTY AS WELL. I CAN CREATE A LIST I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO DEEP INTO DETAILS BUT THE COURT WOULD LIKE I CAN PUT THAT TOGETHER AND GIVE IT TO YOU I CAN TELL YOU WITH MY DEPARTURE HE IS GOING TO BE TAKING ON QUITE A BIT OF JOB DUTIES THAT WERE NOT ORIGINALLY PUT IN THAT JOB DESCRIPTION.

>> JUDGE: OKAY. >> COMMISSIONER: ARE WE TALKING

ABOUT TWO AND FIVE? >> JUDGE: FOR STARTERS THE ONE I CALLED WAS ITEM NUMBER FIVE. WAIT A SECOND. ITEM NUMBER 2 IS THE ONE I SAID DISCUSS AND RECLASSIFY THE ASSISTANT VETERAN COORDINATOR. AGAIN, AMANDA IS LEAVING WE DO HAVE A REPLACEMENT BUT HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE ON THESE NEW DUTIES AREPLACEMENT AND THEREFORE WE NEED TO MOVE

FROM 16 TO 19. >> GUEST SPEAKER: TO ALSO ADD RIGHT NOW MR. SILVA IS 100 PERCENT GRANT FUNDED. WHAT I AM ASKING IS THAT WHEN YOU TAKE HIM FROM A 16 TO 19 IT'S JUST IN THE INTERIM FROM JUNE 30TH OF 2023. WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING IN OUR NEW APPLICATION FOR NEXT YEAR'S GRANT AND WE DO INTEND TO PUT IN THE FUNDING AND THAT TO OFFSET GOING FROM A 16 TO A 19. WE ARE JUST ASKING PERMISSION FROM THE BOARD BECAUSE OF HIS DEPARTURE TO PAY HIM IN THE INTERIM BEFORE WE GET THE NEXT GRANT CYCLE GOING.

>> JUDGE: CORRECT AND THANK YOU. AGAIN WE HAD THE FISCAL IMPACT WILL THAT AND WHEN WE ASKED YOU IF WE COULD JUST ABSORB THIS AS PART OF OUR BUDGET.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: THERE WILL BE A SAVINGS IN THE COURT. THERE WILL BE AN INCREASE BUT NOT A SIGNIFICANT FUND.

>> JUDGE: OF COURSE AND YOU POINTED OUT JUDGE HOW IMPORTANT THIS GRANT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE FUND, THE NEED AND THE GOOD WORK THAT IT ACCOMPLISHES. WE WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND THE SALARY POSITION CHANGE, CORRECT?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES MA'AM. >> JUDGE: I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT AND ASK FOR SECOND BASED ON THE TESTIMONY.

>> COMMISSIONER: SECOND AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME IN THE COUNTY I'M SORRY TO SEE YOU GO.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: IT'S BEEN A GOOD 18 YEARS.

>> JUDGE: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AMANDA, UNBELIEVABLE BUT LIKE ALWAYS YOU ARE MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS TAKEN CARE OF AND WE ARE GOING TO BE IN GOOD HANDS NOW. I KNOW THAT WE ARE WISHING YOU THE BEST AND AS I TOLD YOU IN THE HALLWAY, GET BACK REALLY SOON. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT ON THE DONATIONS ON THE ACCEPTING OF THAT AND WHAT THE FUND IS FOR I THINK WE HAVE HANDLED THAT IN ANOTHER COURT.

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ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT? IT'S NOT ON THIS ONE BUT DIDN'T WE ALREADY EXCEPT THOSE DONATIONS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE YOU BACK BUT YOU'VE PROVIDED YOU THE BACKGROUND INADVERTENTLY BUT IT HELPS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU

GUYS SO MUCH. THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER: WE HAVE NOT

DONE NUMBER 5 YET. >> JUDGE: AND SO, I DON'T KNOW WHO IS GOING TO BE REPRESENTING THE AUXILIARY COURT TODAY.

MAYBE SOMEBODY ONLINE? IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? WE CAN FIND

OUT? >> COMMISSIONER: THIS WAS A GRANT POSITION THAT WAS NOT RECOGNIZED WE DID THE CLASSIFICATIONS ON THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY NUMBERS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE ALL PAID OFF THE FIVE POSITIONS ARE PAID THE SAME LEVEL SO IT'S ONE GRANT FROM THE 30TH TO THE 39TH.

>> JUDGE: IT IS GRANT FUNDED? REMEMBER THE AUXILIARY COURT IS FUNDED BY THE OFFICE OF ADMINISTRATION WHICH IS FUNDED BY THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS. ALL THIS SAYS IS THAT THE MINISTERIAL CHANGE IS THAT EVERYONE IS EQUALIZED AND IT IS GRANT FUNDED. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THAT TAKES CARE OF HUMAN RESOURCES TWO, THREE, FOUR AND FIVE. THERE ARE OTHER ONES THAT ARE IMPORTANT SO I'M GOING TO HELP DOCTOR FAGAN SO HE CAN GET BACK TO HIS WORK.

WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 1 FOR HIM AND ITEM NUMBER 6. TAKE ITEM NUMBER 1 DALE YOU ASKED FOR THIS ITEM AS WELL?

>> COMMISSIONER: ITEM NUMBER 1 AS WE KNOW THERE'S A SIX PERCENT COST-OF-LIVING INCREASE AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE REVISE THE PAY SCHEDULE FOR PAY SCHEDULE A WHICH IS THE MAJORITY OF THE REGULAR EMPLOYEES AND THEN PAY SCHEDULE P WHICH IS THE PROFESSIONAL LEVEL AND WE ARE GOING TO NINE OR HIGHER. P IS THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AT SIX PERCENT WE CREATED A NEW PAY SCALE OF THE MEDICAL EXAMINER BECAUSE THEY ARE AT SUCH A HIGH RATE OF PAY. WE WANT TO SEPARATE THEM TO HANDLE THEM SEPARATELY. WE PROVIDED INFORMATION FOR VISA FOR PAY SCHEDULES AND ASKED YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL. IT WILL BE EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1. JUDGE IN REVIEWING THIS JUDGE DALE IN REVIEWING THIS TO ME THIS WAS PUTTING THIS IN WRITING WHAT WE ALL AGREED TO. IT'S NO NEW COST AND IT IS MINISTERIAL AGAIN. THE MOTION PASSED JUDGE.

>> JUDGE: THANK YOU I WILL SECOND AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. POSTING SAME SIGN. LET'S MOVE TO NUMBER 6. SOMETIMES THEY FALL UNDER HUMAN RESOURCES BUT THERE ARE ISSUES IMPORTANT TO THE AUDITOR AND DEPARTMENT HEAD.

[6. Discuss and consider approval of additional hours from 20 to 29 per week for each of the three (3) new Part-Time Medical Examiner Investigator positions in Department 3890 (Nueces County Medical Examiner’s Office) at an additional cost to Nueces County of $32,508 for the 22/23 Fiscal Year.]

CATEGORIZE THEM IN THAT MANNER. ITEM NUMBER 6 IS ONE THAT WE REQUIRE THE APPROVAL TO CONSIDER AND THAT'S THE APPROVAL OF ADDITIONAL HOURS FOR THREE NEW PART-TIME MEDICAL EXAMINERS IN INVESTIGATORS AND THERE IS A COST OF $32,000 AND DOCTOR FAGAN IS HERE BUT IT WOULD TAKE HIM FROM 20 TO 29.

THIS ALSO COMPORTS TO WHAT WE INTENDED AS A COURT AS WHAT WE CALL PART TIMERS IT IS 29 HOURS. DALE CAN YOU HELP HERE?

>> COMMISSIONER: NORMALLY THESE ARE 20 HOURS PAID PERIOD.

PART-TIME ASSUME WOULD BE 20 HOURS WE DO HAVE SOME EMPLOYEES THAT CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO 29 HOURS AND 29 HOURS IS THE MAX SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH ADDING BENEFITS TO IT SO 20 HOURS WOULD BE THE MAX. WE ARE TALKING WITH DOCTOR FAGAN AND 29 HOURS IS THE REQUIRED AMOUNT FOR HIS STAFF BUT WE ASSUMED WHEN WE SAID PART-TIME IT'S A 20 HOUR WEEK.

THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT WE WORK WITH 20 HOURS A WEEK.

>> COMMISSIONER: THIS IS NOT WHAT WE APPROVED. THIS IS NOT

AN ADDITIONAL REQUEST. >> GUEST SPEAKER: OUR INVESTIGATORS WHICH ARE TEMPORARY THERE WERE ASKED TO PUT PART-TIME. IT WAS US REALLY AND ASSUMPTION IT WOULD BE 20 HOURS PER WEEK AND AFTER TALKING TO DOCTOR FAGAN THEY THEY ARE NEEDED .9 HOURS PER WEEK. WAS A MISCONCEPTION.

>> JUDGE: I SEE YOUR FACE IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE MELTING.

TONY 9 HOURS IS WHAT IS TYPICAL. IF I SAID TO SOMEBODY RIGHT NOW WERE GOING TO DO PART-TIME IT WOULD BE 29 HOURS.

AGAIN I DON'T SEE IT AS A MISTAKE IT'S A MISCOMMUNICATION. > COMMISSIONER: IT'S FRUSTRATING BECAUSE WE CONTINUE TO GET REQUESTS FOR MORE AND MORE

MONEY. >> JUDGE: NO IT'S NOT PART-TIME IS 29. I THOUGHT PART-TIME WAS 29 AND THAT IS WHAT IT IS FOR

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EVERY OTHER PART-TIME OR 29 HOURS.

>> COMMISSIONER: PART-TIME CAN BE ANYTHING GOOD I HAVE PART-TIME WERE WORKING. 20 IS BY DEFINITION.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: WE HAVE SEVERAL PART-TIME SET ARE AT 20

HOURS A WEEK. >> JUDGE: BY DEFINITION WE

TYPICALLY DO 29 HOURS. >> COMMISSIONER: NO WE DON'T

THAT'S NOT TRUE. >> GUEST SPEAKER: OUR MAGISTRATE JUDGES ARE 29 HOURS AND THERE ARE SOME AT 25.

>> COMMISSIONER: WE ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE. THE REQUEST AT THE TIME IS 20 HOURS. HE PUT 20 HOURS IN THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL COST AGAIN COMING FROM THE RADICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE. I MIGHT GET A LITTLE MELTED DOWN ON THAT. IT'S

FRUSTRATING. >> JUDGE: 29 HOURS IS WHAT I BELIEVE. I HEAR YOU THAT YOU HAVE SOME DEPARTMENT THAT CAN GET AWAY WITH LESS THAN 29 BUT WHEN I ASK WHAT A PART-TIME POSITION AS IT USUALLY 29 HOURS. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT THEN DON'T DO IT. IF YOU WANT TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO GET THIS OFFICE IN THE RIGHT SPACE OR NOT? IT'S JUST THE RATE OF RETURN IS SO GREAT HERE AND THE CON IS SO BAD. YOU KNOW? IT IS TO ME WHAT IS AT STAKE.

>> COMMISSIONER: YOU CAN ARGUE THAT FOR ANYTHING JUDGE PEERED WE HAVE SPENT MONEY DIME AFTER MONEY, MONEY, MONEY. ALL WE DO IS SPEND MONEY AT THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE. EVERY TIME I TURN AROUND IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S ANOTHER REQUEST FROM THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE FOR WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY SPENT GOOD GOSH ALMIGHTY I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE HAVE SPENT.

PLEASE, DON'T SAY THAT THIS COURT HAS NOT GONE OVERBOARD IN ITS ATTEMPTS TO CLEAN UP THIS MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE.

>> JUDGE: IS STAFFED ACCORDINGLY.

>> COMMISSIONER: THAT WOULD BE COMPLETELY UNTRUE.

>> JUDGE: WE HAVE DONE A LOT. >> COMMISSIONER: IT'S $7 MILLION TO MAKE THAT FACILITY UNBELIEVABLE.

>> JUDGE: I WOULD DISAGREE I THINK THE ISSUE AT HAND IS 20 TO 29. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO GIVE US THE 29 LET ME CALL FOR DISCUSSION AND THEN WE WILL HEAR FROM DOCTOR FAGAN. I WOULD LIKE TO GET US TO 29 BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT HE NEEDS IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT?

>> COMMISSIONER: SECOND. >> JUDGE: ALL RIGHT DOCTOR FAGAN WOULD YOU MIND ON MUTING AND TELL US HOW THE 9 HOURS IS GOING TO ASSIST YOU IN THE OFFICE OR FOR THE SERVICES? I THOUGHT I SAW HIM, MAYBE I AM WRONG. YES, I DO SEE IT. WE HAVE THEM. OLD BUT I AM THE SAME AGE. DOCTOR FAGAN, HE MAY HAVE HAD TO LEAVE. DOCTOR FAGAN, ARE YOU STILL WITH US? HE MAY HAVE HAD TO LEAVE. WOULD YOU MIND TEXTING HIM? I WILL HOLD ON IT AND IF IT'S OKAY WITH ALL OF YOU GUYS, I WILL HOLD ON IT.

[13. Discuss and consider funding of veterans non-profit organizations for infrastructure repairs through American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA).]

THERE HAVE BEEN SOME GENTLEMEN THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING ALL DAY LONG AND I'M GOING TO MOVE TO THAT. JJ DALE ASSERT THAT IS HERE TO DO ITEM NUMBER 13 AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIR. THESE ARE OUR VFW'S AND AMERICAN LEGION'S. IT IS THROUGH THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT AND THE ALLOCATION IS THROUGH THE DJ ALLOCATION. JJ WOULD YOU PRESENT TO THE COURT?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES MA'AM. GOOD AFTERNOON JUDGES AND COMMISSIONERS ON JUNE 26, 2020 IN THE COVID PANDEMIC TEXAS GOVERNOR GREG GAVITT SIGNED THE EXECUTIVE ORDER WHICH MANDATED THE CLOSURE OF BARS AND SIMILAR ESTABLISHMENTS THAT PULLED PERMITS FROM THE TEXAS ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE COMMISSION.

THIS ORDER AFFECTED ALL OF OUR VFW AND AMERICAN LEGION'S AS THEY HAD TO CLOSE THE HALLS, CANTEENS AND EVEN CANCEL THEIR FUNDRAISING EVENTS. THE GOVERNOR SLOWLY RELAX THIS ORDER AND PHASES HOWEVER THE PANDEMIC AFFECTED THE POST AS THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO GENERATE REVENUE. IN FACT SEVERAL OF THESE POSTS WERE ON THE VERGE OF CLOSING THEIR DOORS FOREVER.

WITHIN THE PAST YEAR SEVERAL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS HAVE REACHED OUT TO NUECES COUNTY FOR HELP AS THEY FIND THEIR BUILDINGS IN DIRE NEED OF INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIR.

HOWEVER, THESE POSTS DID NOT HAVE THE FUNDING TO DO THE REPAIRS. TO DATE THESE POSTS HAVE REACHED OUT WITH FUNDING REQUEST. THREE OF THOSE POSTS HAVE PROVIDED US WITH

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ESTIMATES. THE FIRST OF VFW 8932 OUT OF FLOUR BLUFF HAS AN APPROXIMATE REQUEST OF 160,000 AND THIS WOULD BE FOR THE REPAIR OF THEIR FLOOR, THEIR RESTROOM AND THEIR PARKING LOT.

VFW 3837 OUT OF KYLE ISLAND HAS APPROXIMATE REQUEST OF 50,000 WHICH WOULD REPLACE ALL THE EXISTING ROTTING SIDING ON THEIR BUILDING. ALL OF THEIR BUILDING IS ROTTING AWAY.

AMERICAN LEGION POST 364 WHICH WE HAVE MEMBERS HERE AS AN APPROXIMATE REQUEST OF $60,000 WHICH INCLUDES THE REPLACEMENT OF THE ROOF AND THEIR FENCE. VFW 2397 ON AIR STREET HAS REQUESTED SEVERAL REPAIRS TO REPAIR THE ROOF, RESTROOM, FLOORING, ELECTRICAL PANELS, ETC.. THEY HAVE NOT PROVIDED AN ESTIMATE. I AM ALSO PENDING A CALL BACK FROM VFW 8967 TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY NEEDS AS WELL. THE CURRENT COMBINED AMOUNT IS 288,000 WITHOUT THE COST ESTIMATE OF VFW 2397 OR VFW 8967. AGAIN THE MORE ARPA FUNDING THAT THE COURT IS ABLE TO ALLOCATE THE BETTER WE CAN REINFORCE THESE VETERAN POSTS FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. WE ARE ASKING FOR ARPA FUNDING TO GET

THESE REPAIRS DONE. >> JUDGE: THANK YOU, JJ. AS A MATTER OF CLARITY SO COMMISSIONER BRENT CHESNEY CAN LOOK AT IT, I'VE GONE TO PORT A BUT WHATEVER YOU DO A DOUBLE CHECK WITH THEM IS A VERY LOVELY IT'S A NICE BUILDING.

THE REASON THEY DON'T NEED ANYTHING IS RECENTLY DONE. THE OTHER ONES HAVE BEEN HAVE BEEN IN DISREPAIR. MY SUGGESTION COURT ON COURT IS I'M GOING TO OING TO TAKE T IS I'M GOING TO TAKE 200,000 THE COMMISSIONER, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT WAS IN AN EVEN NUMBER SO I COULD, I WILL LET THE COMMISSIONER CHIME IN FOR HIS ALLOCATION AND THEN I COULD MAYBE ADD THE EXTRA. WE ALSO HAVE MR. FOR CELL. WE LOVED THAT YOU SIGNED UP AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU BUT MY MOTION IS TO DO 200,000 FROM CJ AND THEN COMMISSIONER I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM RICHARD FIRST BUT YOU HAD A THOUGHT AS WELL?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: JUDGE

>>> ARE THEY GOING TO PATCH IT? I MEAN, I'M WILLING TO WORK AND TRY TO FIX IT RIGHT AND WORK WITH HIM AND DO IT THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE.

BUT I HAD SOMEBODY ELSE ON MY OWN, HAD SOMEBODY ELSE WILL DO

AN ESTIMATE. >>> IF WE CAN GET IT DONE THE FIRST TIME, THAT WOULD BE BEST, BUT THESE ARE THE ANSWERS THEY

PROVIDED. >>> AND EURO CD THOUSAND OR 30,000 AND THEN THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT.

WHERE IS THE MONEY? I'M JUST SAYING WE'VE GOT TO BE

REAL CAREFUL. >>> YES, SIR, PS AND IT IS JUST THE ALLOCATION TO COMPENSATE FO THE COST ESTIMATES THAT PROVIDE TO US. GO AHEAD.

BY THE WAY, THERE IS KNOW A THA -- GO AHEAD, I'LL LET YOU VISIT WITH US. MARCO BASICALLY WHAT I WANTED T SAY IS BEFORE COVID WE WERE HAVING EVENTS TO-3 TIMES A MONT AND BROUGHT IN A LOT OF MONEY. AND WE WERE USING THAT TO MAKE THE REPAIRS WE NEEDED. BUT ONCE COVID HIT AND WE HAD T SHUT DOWN, WE OFTEN COME FOR OVER A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF.

OF ALL THE EVENTS WE HAD SCHEDULED -- AND WE'VE HAD SOME THAT WE HAD TO PAY BACK. AND BY HAVING TO DO THAT, IT PU US IN A HOLE. SO BASICALLY RIGHT NOW YOU GET THE REACTANTS RIGHT NOW. I'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE THAT I

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DON'T THINK JJ TAPSCOTT FOR $70,000.

ANYWAY, WHERE TRYING TO -- WE HANDSOMELY COME IN AND DO REPAI FOR US, AND IT DID NOT WORK. AND IF YOU HAVE BEEN TO OUR LESION, WE HAVE A HAMBURGER NIGHT ON TODAY'S.

YOU HAVE NOTICED WE HAVE LEAKS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO GET RID OF SO WE CAN HAVE A BUILDIN THAT WE CAN BE PROUD OF AND HAV FELLOW FORMER MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY COME BY AND HAVE A PLACE TO GO. SO YOU HAVE RECEIVED ESTIMATES

WE CAN GUESS WE HAVE. >>> OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND THE OTHER -- COMMISSIONER MODELS -- I'M SORRY, MR. PEÑA, GO AHEAD. YES, MA'AM.

I WANT TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE AMERICAN LEGION POST 364. I AM THE PAST COMMANDER IN OUR PROBLEMS WE STARTED WITH HURRICANE HARVEY.

IT CAME THROUGH AND READ THEM A OUR ROOF.

WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO REPAIR IT.

AND THEN AFTERWARDS WAS THE PANDEMIC, WHICH WE WERE ORDERED TO BE CLOSED. AND THEN AFTER THE PANDEMIC WAS THE FREEZE. AND REALLY, THAT REALLY KNOCK THIS OUT BECAUSE IT RUINED SOME OF THE WATERLINES, THEY GOT BUSTED, AND WE HAD TO REPLACE THOSE.

SO WE'VE BEEN STRUGGLING SINCE HURRICANE HARVEY.

THANK YOU P THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ART PROFESSO

MIBP COMMISSIONER MODEST. >>> DEFINITELY.

I WANT TO HELP THE VETERAN COMMUNITY, AND WHAT THEY SERVED.

IN MY OPINION, THE WAY THEY ARE SERVING COUNTY RESIDENTS THAT THE COUNTY CAN'T DIRECTLY DO THIS THROUGH OUR SOURCE OFFICE, WE ARE LIMITED, RIGHT, IN WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO PUT FUNDING IN THEIR OF $50,000.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY THAT ARE PARTICULAR WITHIN MY PRECINCT, ALTHOUGH I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL, INVITED SEVERAL TIMES TO SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, NEVER ESPECIALLY BUT WHOEVER IT IS TO BE DIVIDED. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ALLOCATE 50,000 FOR MY OPERA FUNDING, ASSUMING EVERYTHING DOES QUALIFY AND GETS WORKED OU AS FAR AS THAT THEY ARE APPROPRIATE AND THEY MEET THE NEEDS AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE

FEDERAL FUNDING. >>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PS AND FORGIVE ME. TO DO THE 288, LET ME JUST MAKE IT MINUS 238. THAT WAY THE 288 IS MET, OF COURSE, I WANTED TO PUT ON THE RECORD THAT WE DID MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE HAD THESE ORGANIZATIONS VETTED BY OUR PLANT MANAGEMENT TEAM SO THAT WE DO KNOW THAT THEY ARE BENEFICIARIES, AND THE ARE ELIGIBLE. AND, OF COURSE, AS WAS JUST POINTED OUT, IT IS ALSO POSSIBL TO GIVE YOU THE FUNDING FROM AN OTHER WAY. THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS FUNDING SO IMPORTANT AND SO PARTICULAR. AND I AM GLAD THAT YOU GOT COST ESTIMATES ON THE ROOF. AND, AGAIN, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE CAN ALLOCATE TODAY. AND OF SOMETHING RADICALLY CHANGES, YOU ARE, OF COURSE, ALWAYS WELCOME TO COME BACK AND MAKE THAT A WORKFORCE. BUT WITH THREE ROOF ESTIMATES ARE FOR CONFIDENT THAT THE 238 AND 250 MEETS JJ'S TOTAL COST ALLOCATION FOR ALL FOUR WITH TH UNDERSTANDING THAT PORT A -- HA ASKED YET PROBABLY BECAUSE THE SNOW.

I'M SORRY WHAT WAS THE OTHER O ONE?

>>> THE VFW ON AIRBORNE POST. >>> THAT'S BECAUSE WE ARE

WAITING ON SOME -. >>> S&P -- ESTRUS.

WE WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT ANOTHER TIME PS YES, MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER CHESTER PETER SO W WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THE PERCULAR PROCESS THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH SINCE THESE ARE OUR FUNDS AND SUBJECT TO LEGAL

PAPERWORK. >>> THANK YOU.

>>> IS NOT JUST TO WRITE A CHEC BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU POSITIONS ARE GOOD BECAUSE THIS WILL TAKE A WHILE PS WE JUST GO THEM IN ADVANCE PRESENT THE IMPORTANT DEAL.

THAT MEANS HOWEVER THE P-CHEM HAS TO WORK AND HOWEVER -- IT I A PAIN. IT IS GOOD, IT'S GOOD, IT'S REALLY GOOD TO GREAT THAT THEY'RE DOING IT, BUT I WANT TO

MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT. >> MAYOR HOLMES: YOU SAID IT HA

BEEN VETTED, BY GRANTS? >>> BY HAGGERTY PPR PROGRAM MANAGEMENT. JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW THAT PETE STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH LEGAL AND SO HAD TO GO THROUGH ALL

THAT. >>> JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW WHEN THE FINAL ROLES CAME OUT THEY CHANGE FROM THE INTERIM FINAL RULES. IS DIFFERENT.

THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED INTERIM FINAL, AND THEN THERE WAS FINAL FINAL. AND IN THE FINAL FINAL THE GOVERNMENT RECOGNIZED THAT THIS PAIN EXISTED, AND THEY TRIED TO IS THAT PAIN BY STREAMLINING BENEFICIARIES.

INTO THE TRUTH IS THAT IT'S NOT THAT HARD.

IF YOU DO HAVE TO CREATE A TEMPLATE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED AND TALKED ABOUT.

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WE MEET EVERY MONDAY ABOUT ALL THE ARPAL ITEMS THAT WE DO NEED.

IN FACT, WE HAVE JEFF SCHMIDT WHO IS A OUR PRODUCT DESIGNATED LAWYER. SO WE ARE AWARE OF ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE. SO THE IDEA IS TO STREAMLINE, NOT TO WAIT AND WAIT, NOT TO TAKE FOREVER.

THAT IS WHY WE HAVE A LEGAL TEA THAT IS JUST ON OUR PART.

SO I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT ONCE YOU GET THE PROCESS ROLLING, IT STARTS WITH ME SAYING YES THEN YOU CAN LOOK FOR EFFICIENCIES.

AND I WILL BE DRIVING THE X-EFFICIENCY BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED TO WAIT UNTIL TOMORROW BECAUSE TOMORROW MAÑANA IS MORE

EXPENSIVE PS YES, MA'AM. >>> ONE THING.

THE COUNTY AUDITOR, IS THERE A WAY THAT -- IF I WANT TO HELP - I'M A MEMBER OF AMERICAN LEGION SO I -- [INAUDIBLE].

BUT IF I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU MONEY TO FIX THE ROOF, THE FE FENCE, THAT WHOLE BUILDING IS T BE PAINTED? THE WHOLE BUILDING HAS BEEN SCRAPED AND PAINTED.

IT HAS REALLY DETERIORATED A L LOT.

SO, VIRGINIA, IS THERE -- CAN ACTUALLY DO THE MAGA LOCAL

AGREEMENT WITH PROJECT MANAGERS? >>> WAY TO EXACTLY WHAT SERVICE ARE PROVIDED BY -- THERE'S A WHOLE ANALYSIS, YES, HAGGERTY WOULD LOOK AT THE FEDERAL BUT W HAVE NOT YET DETERMINED THE STATE REQUIREMENTS, SO WE ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THAT INQUIRY YET UNTIL WE CAN DETERMINE, IS THIS A FUNCTION THAT THE COUNTY DOES NORMALLY, THAT THE COUNTY IS ENTITLED TO DO? THAT THESE ARE JUST THINGS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ACTIVE US?

>>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SIX O ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT YOUR OWN

MONEY THOUGH? >>> ON TALKING ABOUT BOTH PI AN IT'S ENCRYPTED TO BE BOTH, NOT TRANSIT BECAUSE ARPA HAS ITS OW RULES. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT OTHER?

>>> I'M TALKING ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES.

IF I WANT TO GET ARPA FUNDS, CA WE ACTUALLY BE INVOLVED IN THE

OVERSIGHT? >>> WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

>>> THAT WOULD REALLY HELP THEM DO THE OVERSIGHT BECAUSE I KNOW IT REALLY HELPS [INAUDIBLE]. I WOULD RATHER WORK WITH YOU,

JJ. >>> YES, SIR.

PROVIDE MORE OVERSIGHT SO THEY CAN MAKE SURE THEY ARE DOING IT RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IF I'M GOING TO GET INVOLVED WITH IT RIGHT NOW.

SO MAYBE YOU AND I COULD GET TO GET LAID AND I CAN GIVE YOU THE LATER PETER SO DO YOU WANT TO HAVE US CHANGE THE MOTION SO YO PUT DOLLARS IN THEN? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE TOTAL ASKING US TO 88, AND 68 OF THE 288 RHIPIDISTIAN ONE THAT YOU ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE DID YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE MOTION TO PU

SOME DOLLARS TOWARDS THAT? >>> HOWEVER, WANTED -- RIGHT NO I'M REALLY CONCERNED TO GO TO AMERICAN LEGION AND CONSULT.

>>> BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. WE CAN RESTRICT THAT.

I AM SAYING WHAT PORTION OF DOLLARS THE YOU WANT TO ADD THA JUST RESTRICTS TO AMERICAN LEGION ON [INAUDIBLE].

>>> 50,000 PS AND OUT OF YOUR ARPA?

>>> YEP. >>> THEN THE MIND, CAROL, I AM GOING TO HAVE TO REWORK THE NUMBER.

>>> JJ. >>> NO, IT HAS TO BE MORE, RI RIGHT? HE'S THINKING IT'S GOING TO COM IN MORE, SO HE IS JUST ADDING T WHAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE, IS WHAT

I'M HEARING. >>> A LITTLE BIT MORE

[INAUDIBLE]. >>> MAYBE YOU HEARD WRONG.

>>> ARE TO MAKE SOMETHING -- [INAUDIBLE]

>> MAYOR HOLMES: I GUESS WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT, IF -- WHAT I CAN DO THEN, JJ IS TAKE 288 MINUS 68 OKAY, THAT'S 228, ALL

RIGHT? >>> YES, MA'AM.

>>> AND I'M GOING TO GO AND HAV 228 DESK COMMISSION MODEST WANT

$50,000 OF THAT, RIGHT? >>> YES, MA'AM.

>>> SO THE 178 WOULD BE MINE AN THAT 50,000 WOULD BE COMMISSIONER MODEST'S. BOTH OF THOSE WOULD COME FROM ARPA APPLICATIONS. AND HE WANTED TO KEEP IT YOU'RE GETTING UP TO 250 BECAUSE HE BELIEVED THAT YOUR ESTIMATES AR NOT POTENTIALLY ACCURATE. OKAY, I DON'T KNOW WHO HIS ROOFER IS BUT YOUR THREE REFERS TO SAY SOMETHING AND HIS ROOFER SAID SOMETHING ELSE. NO, NOT THE ROOF.

THEY ARE TELLING YOU THAT ATTACHED THE ROOF.

THAT'S A PROBLEM. WE FIX IT CAN YOU PAT IT.

YOU CAN'T CATCH THE REPEAT WAS YOUR ESTIMATE FOR COMPLETE

FIXING OR REPACKAGING? >>> 'S ESTIMATES WERE FOR REROOFING, SARAH, AND HE GOT THREE OF THEM SO I DON'T -- BUT AGAIN, DON'T TURN DOWN THE MONE YOU CAN ALWAYS TAKE BACK THE

MONEY. >>> SO I GUESS MY MOTION IS, IS THAT FOR ALL THE ONES YOU IDENTIFIED, MY MOTION IS TO APPROVE TO THE TUNE OF 178 FROM COUNTY JUDGE TRANSFER 50 FROM

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COMMISSIONER JOHN MODEST'S ARPA ARPA AND UP TO -- IS THAT ALL RIGHT IF I STAYED THAT WAY? -- UP TO 250 FOR CASTORAS LOCATION FROM JACK. I REMIND YOU WE CAN DO THIS GRI LATER, JACK, BUT YOU ALLOCATED ALL YOUR ARPA DOLLARS IN ANOTHE COURT. YOU CAN JUST CLEAN IT UP, NO

PROBLEM. >>> I'VE GOT A COUPLE PROBLEMS THIS PROJECTS PURE NO PROBLEM. SO WITH THAT, THAT CUTS THE MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND?

>>> IS TO ME, JUDGE, I JUST WAN TO ASK JJ.

>>> YES, SIR. >>> DSOS YOU GOT FROM LEOPARD

STREET, WHAT DID YOU SAY IT WAS? >>> THE ESTIMATE SIR IS 60550.

>>> DOES IT TELL YOU WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO?

>>> YES, THEY ARE GOING TO PLAC ALL THE SIDING ON ITS BUILDING.

ALL OF IT IS ROTTED DOWN. ALL OF A SUDDEN THE BUILDING, AND THEN REPAINT IT. OKAY, I CAN HELP WITH THAT TOO

ALSO. >>> OKAY, SO CAROL, I HOPE YOU GOT YOUR CALCULATOR OUT. I AM GOING TO REDO IT ONE MORE TIME AND THEN WE WILL MOVE ON OKAY.

SO THAT. >>> YES, SIR.

>>> SAMIRA WILL BE 117 -- JUST MAKE IT 120,000 FROM CJ.

50 FROM MODEST. 61 FROM [INAUDIBLE] NF2 -- PLEASE NOTE THAT IT IS UP TO, BECAUSE I KNOW IF IT IS ONLY A LOWER AMOUNT, WE DON'T WANT TO OVERPAY -- UP TO 250K FROM COMMISSIONER GONZALES FOR THESE PROJECTS.

>>> JJ, THAT'S GOING TO GIVE YOU ROOFER AIRBORNE PLASTER COMMAND AND IT WILL HELP US. IT WILL COME BACK AND PUT IT UP.

>>> TO COMMISSIONER PS AND THE SECOND IS FOR MODEST.

IF YOU WILL GO AHEAD AND TAKE M AMENDMENT ONE MORE TIME.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>>> SO SAYS AYE. >>> THANK YOU, WE REALLY

APPRECIATE IT. >>> AS WE SAY, RUNNING BECAUSE

IT WAS WORTH THE WAIT ALL DAY. >>> I'M AN AMERICAN LEGION GUY SO I'M THERE FOR YOU PS JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE PROCUREMENT AND ALL THAT, WE WILL HAVE YOU MEET WITH OUR SPECIALTY TEAMS WHO WILL EXPLAIN IT. WE DO HAVE TO PROCURE IN A WAY THAT IS COMPETITIVE. I'M SURE THAT DOESN'T SOUND STRANGE TO YOU, AND WE WILL MAK SURE THAT WE DO ALL THE COMPLAINTS HERE WITH NUECES COUNTY INTERNALLY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

>>> GOOD LUCK. >>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAGGIE.

>>> DR. FAGAN WE HELD ON AN ITEM -- WHAT?

[INAUDIBLE] >>> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>>> JJ, I THINK COMMISSIONER CHESNEY WANT TO SAY ONE MORE THING. DO YOU MIND TAKING THE MIC?

>>> SECOND-FLOOR BLUFF TOO. THEY ARE DONE, FINANCING TERMS

16,000 AND $72. >>> HOW ABOUT IF YOU CLEAN UP

NEXT TIME. >>> WE WILL CLEAN IT UP.

I DIDN'T CATCH BARB OFF. I WILL PARTICIPATE TOO.

>>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GUYS.

>>> COMMISSION -- DR. FAGAN IS ON THE PHONE.

HE IS NOT NEEDED. DR. FAGAN, WE WERE DISCUSSING THE 29 HOURS PER WEEK. THERE IS A MOTION AT A SECOND AND THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOU 20 HOURS TO 29 BEING PART-TIME? CAN YOU PROVIDE THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE COURT SO WE CAN HAVE THAT FOR OUR CONSIDERATION ON HOW WE VOTE?

>>> SO RECLASSIFY AND PRODUCE PREVIOUSLY HAD A TEMPORARY INVESTIGATIVE BOOK WE WERE NOT IN COMPORTS WITH NUECES COUNTY RULES FOR THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT EMPLOYEES ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GO PAST 270 DAYS ALL THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE IN THAT CATEGORY [INAUDIBLE], SO WE RECLASSIFIED THEM PART-TIME TO MEET THE RULES. WHEN THEY WERE PART-TIME THEY WERE ALLOWED TO WORK 29 HOURS, WHICH WE STILL MAY HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THEM WORKING. [INAUDIBLE] WE WERE WORKING TO HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATORS, BUT THOSE POSITIONS HAVE NOT BEEN POSTED YET SO WE NEED PART-TIME INVESTIGATORS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO STILL DO THE JOB THAT THEY HAD BEEN DOING FOR THE OFFICE, AND NOT CAP IT AT 20

HOURS PER WEEK. >>> OKAY, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, DOES THAT HELP, AT LEAST WITH THE BACKGROUND?

>>> YES. >>> OKAY THANK YOU DR. FAGAN.

>>> YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT TWO PEOPLE, RIGHT?

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>>> DR. FAGAN, THE QUESTION T THAT.

>>> IS JUST ABOUT THEM TO PE PEOPLE, DR. FAGAN?

>>> IT IS THREE, SIR. >>> THREE INVESTIGATIVE?

>>> THREE PART-TIME INVESTIGATORS PS AND, AGAIN, FO THE RECORD, THAT IS THE TOTAL, RIGHT, 32,000 IS THE TOTAL FOR ALL THREE? DALE, DO YOU MIND HELPING ME O

OUT? >>> ADDITIONAL AMOUNT PS THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT BUT THAT I FOR ALL THREE NOT TWO

INDIVIDUALS. >>> YOU DON'T HAVE ANY

[INAUDIBLE] YOU CAN USE FOR NOW? >>> PARDON ME?

>>> DO YOU HAVE ANY MONEY, SOME MONEY FOR VACANCIES YOU HAD THA

YOU CAN USE FOR NOW? >>> I'M SURE THIS IS A NEW BUDGET. WE JUST ASKED.

>>> IT IS JUST TWO WEEKS OLD. >>> OH, I FORGOT.

>>> YEAH PPQ WAS ASKING IF YOU HAVE BY CHANCE ANYTHING SAVED UP, BUT GIVEN THAT THE BUDGET I ONLY TO BE SOLD, WE ARE GUESSIN

THAT THE ANSWER IS NO. >>> CORRECT.

>>> THEY -. >>> SO AGAIN AND REFUSING TO BE AT 29 HOURS TO BE PURSUANT TO THE BEST PRACTICES STANDARDS FO THESE INVESTIGATORS. IS THAT RIGHT?

>>> YES. >>> SO THAT IS THE ANSWER IS THAT, AGAIN, MAYBE IT IS A MISS ON OUR PART, NOT BEING CLEAR, O MAYBE IT'S NOT A MESS, WE ALWAY THOUGHT IT WAS TO HIM ABOUT THE BOTTOM LINE THE BEST PRACTICES INVESTIGATORS PART-TIME IS 29.

SO MY MOTION STANDS GIVEN THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE EXPERT, AND COMMISSIONER MODEST SEC SECONDED.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF DR DR. FAGAN? OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIF BY SAYING AYE.

>>> OPPOSED. >>> THREE OH, I PASS TWO NAYS.

[10. Discuss and consider approval of Third Supplemental Agreement with Tim Richardson for personal services related to Restore Act and other Federal Funding Sources.]

OKAY, WE WILL GET INVESTIGATORS WORKING THE CORRECT HOURS, 29 HOURS, AND WILL WORK WITH AUDITORS OFFICE TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES, DR. FAGAN. THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE IN

GETTING BACK ONLINE. >>> WE WILL WORK BACK TO WHER WE WERE, GUYS, WHICH IS REGULAR AGENDA ITEM.

THE NEXT ONE IS NUMBER TEN, TIM RICHARDSON.

AND WE TABLED SOME THINGS LAST TIME IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.

THIS IS ONE OF THEM. I KNOW HE IS ONLINE.

I KNOW HE HAS ALSO PROVIDED BACKUP.

THIS IS RELATED TO OUR FEDERAL FUNDING SOURCES, THE WORK THAT HE DOES PARTICULARLY, IT SAYS HERE, "RESTORE ACT CLOSEPICKLE SO BEFORE WE HEAR FROM TIM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROV AND THEN WE WILL GET TO OUR DISCUSSION.

IS THERE A SECOND? >>> IF APPROVED FOR AN EXTE

EXTENSION? >>> WELL, IT'S A NEW YEAR AND W WERE SUPPOSED TO DO IT LAST TIM BEFORE THE NEW YEAR STARTED BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME ON THE CALENDAR.

AND SO IT WAS ASKED OF THIS COURT TO MOVE TO THIS TIME.

>>> ONE THING HE SAID TODAY I GUESS.

>>> NO, NO, THERE IS A WHOLE REPORT.

>>> WE ARE GOING THROUGH ASKING FOR THIS AND THAT SO I AM READY TO TERMINATE IN MY OPINION, I DON'T THINK WE NEED HIM ANYMORE.

>>> OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK [INAUDIBLE] TO SPEAK OUT.

YOU RECEIVED LITERALLY INCREDIBLY LENGTHY REPORTS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE IS SAYING HE GOT ONE PIECE OF PAPER.

>>> THE ONE THAT I SENT TIM RICHARDSON IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST THOROUGH REPORTING PEOPLE THAT I'VE SEEN.

AND THE GOURMETS AND THE RISE ACT, I MEAN, -- GO MAY 2ND IS HOW WE FUND COASTAL PARK PROJECTS.

>>> [INAUDIBLE] ON GOMEZ THAN ANYBODY ELSE.

THIS IS MY OPINION, JUDGE. I UNDERSTAND IS YOUR OPINION, ASSIGNED TO ANY REGULAR CONSIST OF MENTAL YOU HAVE BEEN REVIEWE BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. SISTER WAS HERE.

AND AGAIN IT WAS READY LAST T TIME.

SO AGAIN, IS THERE -- I GOT A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND SO WE CAN -- OH, WAIT, THERE WAS A SECOND ALREADY. DID I HEAR A SECOND? OKAY HE WILL SECOND. AND, TIM, WILL YOU TALK TO US ABOUT YOUR WORK AND THE IMPORTANCE OF IT TO THE GULF OF MEXICO AND THE GULF COAST, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT COME UP. >>> BUT JUST.

HELLO JUDGE, AND COMMISSIONER'S. MY REPORT TO YOU LAST WEEK WAS FOURTH QUARTER OUTLOOK. AND BASICALLY IT HAD SOME BOARD POINTS OFF OF THAT ONE IS THAT THERE IS MORE MONEY THAN WHEN YOU STARTED. THAT IS SEEKING ALL YOUR RESTORATION GOALS AND INFRASTRUCTURE GOALS.

AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE RIS ACT COMING ON, WHICH IS A BIPARTISAN BILL. TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT MEANS, IT IS OFFSHORE WIND AND THE STATE OF NEW YORK HAD A

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LEASE SALE THIS YEAR WITHOUT TH RISE ACT AND THERE WAS $2 BILLION THAT THEY COULD HAVE GOTTEN.

REPRESENTATIVE WEBER, A REPUBLICAN FROM GARRISON, AND REPRESENTATIVE LINDSAY FLETCHER A DEMOCRAT FROM HOUSTON, ARE BOTH ON AND SO IT IS NOT REALLY GOING TO MATTER IF THE CONGRESS CHANGES HANDS, AT LEAST IN THE HOUSE, ON THIS FUNDING SOURCE.

>>> SO YOU'VE ALSO GOT A BUIL ABOVE GO MESA DOLLARS WITH A NE GO MESA -- WITH A NEW JL OH COMMISSIONER COMMUNION.

I ESTIMATED BASED ON THEIR REPORTING THERE'S $200 MILLION SITTING THERE. SO ONE OF YOUR GOALS FOR THE NE YEAR WITH THE NEW JLO COMMISSIONER IT IS BEEN THOSE DOLLARS. WE ARE GOING TO SEE ON NOVE NOVEMBER 2ND THE NEW TIER ONE PROJECTS COME OUT FROM THE TEXA COASTAL RESILIENCY MASTER PLAN. AND YOU GOT SEVERAL CANDIDATES PROJECTS WITHIN THAT, INCLUDING LIVING SHORELINES, INCLUDING SEWER, WASTEWATER, AND THE RURA SIDE OF THE COUNTY.

WE HAD, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, M AND VERY RAPIDLY PUT TOGETHER GOES IS CONTENT PARISHES CAUCUS OF MAKO.

AND WITHIN THAT CAUCUS BASICALL WE ARE PUSHING FOR CONTINUATION OF GO MESA, AND ALSO TO RISK REPAIR THOSE DIRECT SO THOSE

DOLLARS CAN MOVE A LOT FASTER. >>> YOU WOULDN'T THINK THAT COUNTY OFFICIALS AND PARISH OFFICIALS WOULD NEED TO CORRECT A BILL IN CONGRESS, BUT WE DO. AND JUDGE CANALIS AND JUDGE CRADDOCK ARE THE COCHAIRS, SO YOU'VE GAINED THE MEGAPHONE FOR THE ENTIRE GOALS TO INFLUENCE THINGS.

AND I MET WITH TOBY BAKER THIS EVENING HERE IN BEAUMONT WHERE WE CELEBRATED THEIR $20 MILLION OVER NINE YEARS OF PURSUING THESE FUNDS. AND HE SAID, MY K CAN ESTATE LIAISON BE ADDED TO YOUR CONTEN PARISHES CAUCUS? AND I SAID YES. IN FACT, YOU CAN EVEN WRITE THE LANGUAGE THAT WE WANT TO REPAIR THINGS ON.

>>> SO ANOTHER ITEM THAT CAME OUT IN THAT CAUCUS MEETING WAS FROM DR. KIERSTEN STANZEL OF TH COASTAL BAYS AND ESTUARIES PROGRAM. SHE SAID THAT THE BANK AND A NUTRIENT LOADING TO 50 PERCENT OF IT OR MORE IS COMING FROM SEPTIC AND SEWER FAILURES THE BACKSIDE THE COUNTY OF THE [INAUDIBLE] CREEK PROGRAMS. SO THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR YOU BECAUSE THE DOLLARS CAN BE USED TO FIX THOSE FLOODED SEPTIC TANKS. AND IT IS IDENTIFIED NOW AS THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF NUTRIENT LOADING IN BACK-END VALUE, WHIC I KNOW YOU ARE COMMITTED TO CLEANING UP.

SO THE SIGNS ARE COMING ON LINE THE SAME TIME AS THE FUNDING IS COMING ONLINE, AND I THINK YOU ARE IN GREAT SHAPE.

>>> OF THE $42 MILLION SET ASIDE FOR WATER THAT WE DISCUSSED BEFORE, YOU'VE GOTTEN $47 MILLION OF IT SO FAR.

MAP I SENT TO YOU THIS MORNING, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ HAS SAID EVERYONE, MAY SIMPLY THE STATES MAP WHICH SHOWS THEIR PRIORITY WATER PROJECTS. AND IT'S YOU THERE'S A TINY PROJECT UP IN CHAMBERS COUNTY WHERE THE WATER CONTROL STRUCTURE JUST KEEPS THE WATER OUT OF THE MARSH, BUT THAT IS A SMALL PROJECT COMPARED TO YOUR PRIORITY AREAS.

SO IS WHERE YOU WANT TO BE. YOU'VE GOTTEN SOME MONEY.

WE ARE ALL FRUSTRATED AT THE SPEED OF THE RESTORE ACT BUT THAT'S WHERE WE PUT OUR SHOULDE TO THE WHEEL.

AND JUST A MATTER OF CLARIFICATION.

EITHER CANCER OR THIS PREAPPROVED WITH RICHARDSON'S CONTRACT WITHIN 1275, NOT THE CONTRACT PER SE BUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. SO OUR BUDGET DOES, COME -- DOE COVER HIM TO THE FISCAL YEAR. AND IT WAS THE BUDGET THAT WE

ADOPTED. >>> THAT'S RIGHT.

I KNOW YOU VOTED AGAINST THE BUDGET, SO I AM NOT TRYING TO SAY FOR ALL THAT, BUT IT'S A BUDGET THAT FORM WAS ADOPTED AN NOT COMMISSIONER CHESTY. HAVING SAID THAT, THE VALUE OF HAVING SOMEBODY -- AND WHILE SCOTT DOES UNDERSTAND GO MESA, SCOTT DOES NOT WORK IN WASHINGTON, D.C. WHERE WE DO NOT HAVE ADVOCACY AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL.

GO MESA'S LANGUAGE HAS TO BE REAUTHORIZED ALL THE TIME, AND THAT IS WHY ALSO THE RISE ACT WOULD PUT 37 PERCENT, HUNDRED

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MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TEXAS AFTER POCKET.

AND TIM IS WORKING WITH OUR DELEGATION ON THE NUANCES OF THAT ACT EACH AND EVERY DAY. IF WE GET THAT, THINK OF IT AS GO MESA TIMES THREE. AND WE ARE ALSO -- WE ARE ARGUING THAT THE ARPA MODEL TO BRING IT STRAIGHT TO COUNTIES I THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. AND 20 COASTAL COUNTY AND FIVE COASTAL STATES. SO FOR THE PLACE IN TEXACO FIVE COASTAL STATES WILL ALL WANT TO SEE THE ARPA MODEL USED.

SO YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE A HUGE RETURN ON INVESTMENT JUST FROM ONE PIECE OF LEGISLATION, LET ALONE THE THREE THAT WE ARE WORKING ON, GO MESA, RESTORE AN RISE.

AND WITHOUT THAT JUST BY THE LIQUIDATORS FOR INLET FLOOD MITIGATION AS WELL. IS NOT JUST FOR COASTAL AREAS BUT IT'S FOR COASTAL AREAS THAT GET HIT HARD FROM STORMS AND EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS SO, AG AGAIN, WE CONTEMPLATED THIS IN THE BUDGET. IT IS SITTING THERE, AND WE ALS HAVE A REAL NEED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE RISE ACT IS ACTUALL A BIPARTISAN PIECE OF LEGISLATION.

CONGRESSMAN LINDSAY FLETCHER OF HOUSTON, CANESTEN RANDY WEBER O FISHING, OUR COMMERCIAL HOSTING SPONSORS.

AND A BIG LEVEL IS SHELDON WHITEHOUSE AND I THINK SENATOR CASSIDY FROM LOUISIANA. AGAIN YOU'RE TALKING 37 PERCENT OF WHAT IS BILLIONS OF BITS OF DOLLARS OF OFFSHORE WIND LEASE BLOCKS, VISION PERCENT WOULD COME TO OUR HOME STATE.

THIS JUST HAPPENED IN NEW YORK. TEXAS NEED TO DO THIS.

WE NEED TO BE THINKING BIG PICTURE SO THAT WE CAN HELP OUR COUNTIES. THERE ARE TOO MANY UNFUNDED MANDATES. HERE'S A WAY TO GET IT DONE? TIM HAS ALREADY PROVEN HIS WORT BY GETTING THOSE CONSUMER FUNDS DOWN HERE. EVERYBODY -- SOMEBODY NEEDS REDOING THAT GROUNDWORK EVERYDA WITH MAKEUP C Q, OTHERWISE SCOT DOESN'T HAVE ANY PART OF MONEY TO APPLY FOR.

THE POT OF MONEY HAS TO EXIST BEFORE YOU APPLY FOR THEM.

SO I URGE YOU TO SEE THAT WE HAVE ALREADY REAPED GREAT REWARDS NOT JUST FROM THE $75 MILLION SUBJECT TO A $5 MILLION THAT'S GOT FINALLY T COUNTRY, BUT FROM THE 4:MACK6 FOR THE CREEK, FOR THE MONEY THAT'S COMING AFTERWARDS, AND FOR THE COMPLETE BIPARTISAN EFFORT THAT TIM HAD BEEN PUSHIN TO GET THE RISE ACT TO A VOTE. THEY COME BACK ON NOVEMBER 14TH AND WE ARE GOING TO SEE THIS BE PUSHED TO THE FOREFRONT.

SO, I MEAN, AGAIN THIS IS FOR YOUR OWN CONSTITUENTS' BEST INTEREST, AND AGAIN, IT'S IN TH BUDGET.

>>> [INAUDIBLE] >> YES, SIR.

>>> A RIGHT TO CONSIDER DOING SHORT-TERM OFFSHORE FOR NOW AND REEVALUATE AT THE END OF THE SO MOVIE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE THIRD SUBMITTAL AGREEMENT THROUGH DECEMBER OF 2022 FOR NO

AND REVISIT IT IN JANUARY. >>> ALL RIGHT, WE WILL DO THAT.

MOTION, AND I WILL COMPROMISE AND SAY, YES, TO THE DRESS, AND THEY SAY. MOTION AT A SECOND.

AND ANY OTHER ACTION OR DISCUSSION?

>>> DOES THE PROVERBIAL BIRD IN THE HAND• TIM.

WE'VE GOT TOO MUCH IMPORTANT WORK TO DO IN NOVEMBER.

>>> THE AMOUNT? >>> I WENT TO GET DALE TO GIVE US THAT AMOUNT IT WOULD JUST BE THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST.

>>> [INAUDIBLE] >> OKAY.

>> AND, OF COURSE, CARE, INSIDE OCTOBER 1 BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE OLD ONE ENDED, ALL RIGHT. OCTOBER 1 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>>> AND TIM, PLEASE FIND ALL THOSE REPORTS THAT TALK ABOUT ALL THE INFORMATION PLUS ALL TH MAIKEL UPDATE.

I MEAN, YOU SHOULD'VE HAD A WHOLE COASTAL RESILIENCY COMMUNITY UPDATE WHICH NOBODY DID ABOUT ME.

BUT ALL THAT STUFF WAS SENT BY TIM TO ALL OF US.

OKAY. >>> ALL RIGHT, NUMBER 11 IS A MATHEMATICAL ERROR THAT WAS DISCOVERED BY TERESA.

AND I THINK SHE IS ONLINE. OKAY, THERE'S A DELAY.

>>> [INAUDIBLE]. >>> BE SURE AND MUTE WHEN THAT HAPPENS, IF YOU DON'T MIND. WHAT HAPPENS IS A DELAY IF YOU'RE WATCHING A CERTAIN PLATFORM.

>>> WITH TALK ABOUT I RELOOKING RAIHL KENNDA HURRICAN HARVEY INSURANCE SETTLEMENT FUNDS TO COMPORT WITH THE ACTUA MATHEMATICAL COMPETITION. AND REALLOCATE THE CEOS TO

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PROVIDE FOR ANY NEEDED OFFSET. TERESA, WILL YOU RUN A STUDENT? I DON'T THINK IT IS CONTROVERSIAL, IT IS JUST GETTING THE MATH RIGHT PS, HI, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS.

>>> FOZ HI. PS I AM SORRY, I AM JUST PULLIN

THE ITEM. >>> WE ARE NEEDING TO REALLOCATE $1,995,772 FOR FUNDS THAT WERE OVER ALLOCATED AND TH PROCEEDS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE SETTLEMENT.

AND SO ON THE ATTACHMENT, I AM NOT SURE IF YOU WILL HAVE IT ON YOUR SCREEN. I HAVE THE BREAKOUT SHOWING WHA THE ORIGINAL ALLOCATION WAS IF YOU CAN PUT THAT UP.

I HAVE THAT. >>> IS COMING, TERESA.

>>> IS THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA ITEM, THE FIRST ATTACHMENT. THE FIRST ATTACHMENT.

RIGHT. >>> OKAY, SO, THE SPREADSHEET I FOR THE ORIGINAL ALLOCATION OF THE 11917556 DOLLARS IS WHAT TH COURT AUTHORIZED TO REALLOCATE IN MARCH.

AND IT WAS BROKEN ONTO THE PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED THERE NOW APPEAR, HILLTOP AND CAL CALDERON.

BUT THE ACTUAL MUTUAL FUNDS THA WE RECEIVED WAS -- SO THAT WAS OVER ALLOCATION OF $1,995,772. IN WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING IS THE -- IS TO LEAVE THE BAJA ALLOCATION AS IS, IB MCGEE AND THE [INAUDIBLE] AS IS. AND WE ARE GOING TO REVISE THE ALLOCATION FROM THE HILLTOP COMMUNITY FACILITY.

THE AMOUNT BILLED TO THE SAME, WE ARE JUST GOING TO USE DIFFERENT FONTS TO MAKE UP THE SHORTAGE VERSUS REDUCING ALL TH ALLOCATIONS BACK DOWN TO THE $10 MILLION.

>>> YES, I FEEL THAT'S THE IMPORTANT PART.

JUST MAKE SURE, COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, YOUR ALLOCATION OVERALL SAY THE SAME. IT IS JUST GOING TO COME OUT OF

A DIFFERENT BUCKET OF DOLLARS. >>> WHAT BUCKET?

>>> THAT IS CORRECT. >>> AND GO AHEAD AND DESCRIBED THAT. IS ON THE NEXT PARAGRAPH.

>>> SO THE OVER ALLOCATION, WE WANT TO REDISTRIBUTE A $70,466 WILL COME FROM THE FOX21 SEALS, 75,000 -- AND WE ARE ALSO GOING TO DELETE THE CALDERON PROJECT FROM THE INSURANCE FUNDS.

SO THE CALDERON BUILDING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE $75,186 FROM THE 2021 CL'S. AND THEN THERE WAS A ERROR, SO SPEAK, IN THE BUDGET. WE HAD A BUDGET TRANSFER FROM THE 1901 GENERAL CAPITOL PROJEC OF $150,120.

WE DO NOT NEED THAT BID WAS FOR THE TEXAS WATERPARKS DRAINAGE PROJECT. SO THAT 150 WILL BE THE SHO SHORTAGE, GOING TO HELP MAKE UP DISORDERS ON THIS RESUBMISSION.

>>> WHEN I READ THIS YOU BASICALLY FIND A WAY TO COVER I INTO EVERY GOT WHAT THEY NEEDED WHAT THEY HAD AND WE MOVED INTO

OTHER FUNDS. >>> AS CURRICULAR COMMISSIONER,

SO THE FUNDS -. >>> YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB,

TERESA. >>> THANK YOU, SO THE RESUBMISSION ARE COMING FROM AT THE BOTTOM YOU SEE I HAVE $150,120 COMING FROM THE TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL CAPITOL. $305,000 GRANT FROM THE BOUNCE THAT'S AVAILABLE IN THE COUNTYWIDE HEAVY EQUIPMENT REPORTS LINK PROJECT THAT'S IN THE 2021 CL'S.

THEN THERE IS A PROJECT WE HAVE NOT ACTUALLY FUNDED OR ALLOCATE

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BUT THAT WE ARE GOING TO REALLOCATE $640,000.62 -- $640,652 TO MAKE UP THE ONE $995,772.

SO WHAT I'VE DONE, I HAVE REDISTRIBUTED THE MILL IN DOLLA SHORTAGE IT I'M SHOWING YOU AT THE BOTTOM WAS GOING TO MAKE UP WHERE WE ARE GOING TO GET THOSE FUNDS FROM.

>>> OKAY. TERESA, EXCUSE ME.

>>> YES, SIR. >>> DO YOU KNOW YET WHERE THE A 70,000 IS COMING FROM FOR HILLTOP?

>>> THE 870 IS GOING TO COME FROM THE 2021 CO'S.

>>> WHERE THEY ALLOCATED TO ANY OTHER PROJECT?

>>> WE HAVE PROJECT, COMMISSIONER PETER WHAT YOU ALL DID, YOU DID AN ALLOCATION AND ALLOCATED PROJECTS THAT HE WANTED TO FUND, AND THEN AS PROJECTS ARE APPROVED IN COURT, WE ACTUALLY GO IN AND MOVE THOS DOLLARS.

SO WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT HAVE AVAILABLE BALANCES IN THAT WE HAVE NOT USED YET. SO WE ARE REDUCING THOSE

ALLOCATED PROJECTS OVER HERE. >>> OKAY.

IT IS POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO -- LE ME KNOW PROJECTS YOU ARE PULLIN

THEM FROM. >>> YES, SIR.

>>> [INAUDIBLE].

>>> 640,000 FROM SOFTWARE SERVICE, REDUCING THOSE ALLOCATIONS TO COVER THAT ADDITIONAL.

>>> THAT'S CORRECT. >>> THANK YOU.

>>> OKAY, THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS

FOR TERESA? >>> AND SO ARE WE SAYING IF YOU ALLOCATED FROM THOSE PROJECTS O THE BOTTOM -.

>>> YES, SIR, P -- SO ARE WE CUTTING BACK ON WHAT THE NEEDS ARE THERE, OR IS IT JUST MONEY THAT WAS THE BOUNCE THAT NOBODY

IS USING? >>> THEY ARE BALANCES, COMMISSIONER FOR THE COUNTYWIDE HEAVY EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUNDS, WE HAVE VERY BEEN RELOCATED AND PAID OFF NET TOTA BUDGET THAT'S BEEN IN AVAILABLE BUDGET.

AND SOFTWARE AND SERVICES ALSO AN AVAILABLE BALANCE TO BE I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE IT DIRECTOR TO MAKE BEFORE THOSE FUNDS WERE REALLOCATED THAT THEY ARE AVAILABLE FOR USE.

>>> THE ONLY QUESTION I DIDN'T THINK OF THAT I WOULD HAVE ASKE IS, DEPENDING WHAT WE DO WITH THAT, I GET WE ARE GOING TO PROBABLY END UP DOING THE BOND, BUT THAT IS 640,000 THAT WE

COULD ALSO USE. >>> WE WILL WAIT UNTIL WE GET T

THE ROOF ITEM COMING UP. >>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

I THINK THE WAY SHE HAD DONE IT GETS INTO STATUS QUO WITHOUT JUMPING INTO WHAT WE KNOW. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE GOT TO THE CALDERON ROOFING HEARING YOU AR GOING TO NEED MONEY FOR THAT.

>>> I THINK THAT WILL BE EARMARKED BECAUSE I THINK -.

>>> WELL, WE DON'T HAVE A AMOUN YET SO YOU CAN'T EARMARKED THAT WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW. MEMBER THAT IS THE NEW POLICY.

BUT GIVE IT A CHANCE HERE TO TERESA'S GOT IT STRAIGHTENED OU AND IT STILL ALLOWS FOR ANY UNALLOCATED OR USED FOR ANY OTHER OF THE PROJECT COMING UP INCLUDING THE ROOF AT CALDERON,

OR ANY OTHER PROJECT. >>> [INAUDIBLE].

>>> WELL, THAT ONE IS ITS OWN ANIMAL.

THAT ONE HAS NO HELP -- NO HOPE IN THESE CO'S, IN MY OPINION.

IT IS TOO EXPENSIVE. THERE IS NO MONEY FOR THAT HERE.

THAT'S A FUTURE ISSUE TO DIS DISCUSS.

BUT AT ANY RATE, TRESA, THAT'S KEY TO THIS TO BE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON HER SPREADSHEET HERE?

>>> OKAY SO HEARING NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I WILL ASK IF YOU WOULD PLEASE -- IF THERE IS A MOTION TO REALLOCATE PURSUANT T THE FINAL ACCOUNTING THAT TREES ARE PRESENTED ALONG WITH RELOCATION THAT ARE AVAILABLE FROM THE CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATIONS TO PROVIDE FOR ANY OF THE NEEDED ALSO PURSUANT TO THIS ACTUAL I DON'T KNOW, A CHARACTER IF YOU WANT TO ACTUALLY ATTACH IT, BUT IT MIGH BE NICE TO ATTACH IT JUST

BECAUSE IT IS SO -. >>> [INAUDIBLE] -.

>>> MARKET IT IS SO EASY TO SAY "THAT'S THE ONE WE ARE ADOP ADOPTING". ALL RIGHT, I WILL LOOK FOR A

SECOND. >>> SECOND FROM MODEST.

OKAY, ALL THOSE INTER-SIGNIFY B SAYING AYE.

>>> OKAY, WE DID NUMBER 12 WITH [INAUDIBLE] AND WE DID 13.

[14. Discuss and consider selection of Turner, Ramirez & Associates, Inc., for Architectural Services related to Fallen Heroes Memorial additions located on the north side of the Nueces County Courthouse.]

AND 14, JJ LEFT BUT I CAN REPRESENT TO YOU THAT THIS IS - YOU RECALL IN THE PEWS AGENDA ITEM WE'VE GOT SOMEONE ALLOCATE MONEY FOR A PHONE -- WE ARE CONCERNED THAT IF WE WERE GOING TO TEST IT THERE MIGHT BE SOME LIGHTING OR WATER OR ELECTRIC LINES, IT MIGHT BE A SMART IDEA TO BRING IN THE ARCHITECTURE DI

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THE FALLEN HEROES MEMORIAL. >>> WE DON'T THINK THIS WILL BE VERY COSTLY BUT WE DO HAVE T MAKE THE SELECTION FIRST BEFORE WE TALK MONEY. THAT'S JUST HOW IT WORKS.

QUICK QUESTION, JUDGE. AND HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO

DISCUSS AND JUST A QUESTION. >>> YES.

IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SECOND? >>> I'LL DO IT, I'LL SECOND.

>>> THE QUESTION ON THIS WAS I DID COLLEGE-AGE AND CLEAR BUT I

WANT TO CLARIFY. >>> WE ARE CALLING ABOUT WHAT W HAD TO DO THE BECAUSE THERE WAS CONCERN THAT WE WERE GOING TO D SOMETHING TO ALTER THE FIRST RESPONDERS: HERE'S MONEY BECAUSE WE ARE CALLING IT: HEROES.

AND GJ EXPLAINED THESE ARE STAND-ALONE MONUMENTS TO OUR VETERANS FROM THEM TO DIFFERENT ROYALS, AND THEY WILL BE PLACED

THERE AND NOT BE -. >>> THAT'S CORRECT IS JUST A GENERAL PIECE THAT'S RIGHT. I THINK WE NEED TO JUST -.

>>> YEAH, CLARIFY. >>> YEAH.

COME UP WITH -. >>> A DIFFERENT NAME.

HOW ABOUT JUST -. >>> NO, IS NOT A BIG DEAL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW PFI [INAUDIBLE] RAMIREZ IS OKAY BECAUSE THEY DESIGNED THE ORIGINAL FALLEN HEROES.

>>> THIS IS NOT ADDING TO THAT -.

>>> NO P -- FALLEN HEROES-FIRST RESPONDERS.

>>> THAT IS ITS OWN DEAR AND THIS WILL BE STAND-ALONE MONUMENTS TO RESPECTFULLY MEMORIALIZE THOSE LOST IN THOSE TWO ROYALS COULD BE JUST A CLARIFICATION.

>>> OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM AND OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM THOSE TWO IN THAT ONE MODERATE. I ALSO EXPLAINED WE WILL BE DOING ADDITIONAL ONES AT THE CEMETERY TOO.

>>> WORLD WAR II AND KOREA. OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. ONCE WE MAKE THE SELECTION, IF WE DO SO TODAY WITHIN THERE WIL BE A CONTRACT THAT JENNY WILL REVIEW AND THERE WILL BE SOME DOLLARS AND CENTS AND WE WILL COME BACK AND CLEAN THAT UP, OKAY, BUT BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE TO DO SELECTIONS ANYMORE WITHOU KNOWING FUNDING SOURCE REPORTED ON THE RECORD NOW AT SIGE'S A ARPA.

[17. Discuss and consider approval of contract extension request from International Consulting Engineers (ICE) for Amistad Veterans Memorial and Westhaven Parks New Splashpad Project.]

[18. Discuss and consider interlocal agreement with the City of Robstown to provide Fire and Emergency Rescue Services in unincorporated areas not within the jurisdiction of an Emergency Service District or area not within the boundaries of any other city entities for FY 21/22.]

[20. Discuss and consider the appointment, employment, evaluation, reassignment, duties, discipline, or dismissal of the Human Resources Director, pursuant to Sec. 551.074 of the Texas Government Code.]

[22. Discuss and consider American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds to be allocated for London drainage issues and projects.]

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I WOULD MOVE THAT THE ARPA FUNDS BE ALLOCATED TO,

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QUALIFIED, LONDON AREA DRAINAGE ISSUES AND PROJECTS WITH THOSE

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PROJECTS TO BE BACK TO THE COURT INDIVIDUALLY AS THEY ARE

DEVELOPED. >> JUDGE: DID YOU SEE HOW MUCH

MONEY WAS? >> COMMISSIONER: 1.5.

>> JUDGE: MOTION I WILL SECOND THE MOTION AND ANY OTHER

DISCUSSION? >> COMMISSIONER: 1.5 MILLION?

>> JUDGE: LET ME WRITE THAT. 1.5 MILLION ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OTHER THAN YOALL THO IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OKAY. I AM LOOKING TO SEE IF, I'VE GOT EXECUTIVE ITEMS AS 23 IS 24 AN EXECUTIVE ITEM OR NOT JENNY? THE STONEGATE DRAINAGE

STUDY? >> GUEST SPEAKER: IT WOULD BE

GOOD TO HAVE EXECUTIVE. >> JUDGE: THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD MOMENT TO TAKE A BREAK. YOU GOT 23, 24, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30 ALL EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS. HOW ABOUT THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING DATE CAN WE NOTE FOR THE RECORD IT IS ITEM 31 THAT IT IS NEXT WEEK? IS IT NECESSARY TO SAY IT? WE CAN.

IT IS PART OF OUR REGULAR AGENDA OR IS IT DIFFERENT? THE NEXT COURT MEETING IS NEXT WEDNESDAY. IS IT NECESSARY? IS IT CONSIDERED A SPECIAL OR IS IT ON THE REGULAR? WE CAN NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT IT IS WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 19 AT 8:30 A.M. OKAY. CAN WE GET ONE IN HERE TO DO TWO ITEMS ON PUBLIC WORKS AND WE WILL GO TO AUDITOR QUICKLY AND THEN EXECUTIVE SESSION. WAIT A MINUTE, I APOLOGIZE, THERE'S MORE.

>> COMMISSIONER: JUDGE, IS 23 EXECUTIVE?

>> JUDGE: YES. IT WILL PROBABLY BE BOTH. OKAY. HOW

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ABOUT LET'S DO A FEW MORE HR'S WHILE WE ARE WAITING FOR PUBLIC

[7. Discuss and consider approval of reclassification of “Community Outreach Library Clerk” at Pay Group 12/01 to a “Community Outreach Librarian” at Pay Group 26/01 in Department 6310 (Nueces County Library) at an additional cost to Nueces County of $24,716 for the 22/23 Fiscal Year.]

WORKS? HOW ABOUT THE ONE THAT IS ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING A CORRECTION. ITEM NUMBER 7 ON HR AND IT IS THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH LIBRARY CLERK AND IT IS AN ADDITIONAL COST. CAN YOU

HELP EXPLAIN DALE? >> GUEST SPEAKER: WHEN WE FIRST RECEIVED THIS WE RECEIVED IT AT 12:01 AND THEN THE CHIEF MADE A CHANGE BUT IT DIDN'T GET THE CHANGE UNTIL 2001. SO, IDA AND THE COUNTY LIBRARY WANTS IT AT 2601 BUT WHEN WE SUBMITTED FOR BUDGET APPROVAL IT'S 1201. WITH THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE

TWO IT'S 24,700. >> JUDGE: ARE YOU SAYING IT DOES CONTORT TO OUR INTENTIONS TO WISHES ON THE BUDGET?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: WHEN WE FIRST SUBMITTED THIS IT WAS GOING TO BE A SPLIT BETWEEN PORTER RANCH BUT THEN I GOT CHANGED AND MOVED OVER AND WE GOT MOVED OVER IT GOT SWITCHED TO 1201 BUT NEVER GOT SWITCHED BACK. I BELIEVE SHE'S ALWAYS WANTED IT AT 2601 SO I BELIEVE THAT 2601 IS THE CORRECT NUMBER HOWEVER THERE IS AN INCREASE OF $24,000 TO THE GENERAL FUNDING.

>> COMMISSIONER: THIS IS ONE I DON'T KNOW IF I VOTED FOR IT BUT THIS IS DOUBLE OF WHAT THE POSITION WAS ORIGINALLY, RIGHT?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: WHEN WE PUT IT IN AND IT WAS 1201 WHICH WAS THE LOWEST PAY WE HAD WHICH WAS $30,000 AND SHE SAW THIS AND SAID SHOULD BE 2601 AND WHEN WE HAD THE ORIGINAL REQUEST THE ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS 26 BUT WHEN WE ORIGINALLY HAD THAT AND IT WAS BETWEEN PARK AND HER AND WHEN WE GOT SWITCHED OUT BETWEEN US WE ASSUMED IT WENT TO 1201 AT THE LIBRARY BETWEEN THE LIBRARIES IN BISHOP AND ROSS TOWN AND FOR SOME REASON I GOT SWITCHED TO 1201. SHE BELIEVES IT SHOULD BE 2601 SO WE CAN GO ANYWHERE FROM THOSE FROM 1201 TO 2601 BUT IF YOU GO TO 2601 IS A $24,000 INCREASE IN THE BUDGET.

>> COMMISSIONER: IN THE ORIGINAL ONE WE TOOK IT OFF THE COASTAL PARK AND THEY HAD THE DOWN REACH CLERK OR WHATEVER IT WAS THAT IS WHAT I VOTED FOR, RIGHT? WE WERE GOING OUT THERE

TO THE ISLAND. >> AT FIRST WE HAD ARRANGEMENTS WHETHER IT WAS THE CITY OF PORTER RANCH OR THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS RESEARCH CENTER THERE TAKING CARE OF THAT. IT WILL ONLY BE AT THE LIBRARY.

>> SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE CLERK WENT BACK AND CHANGED IT BUT THAT'S ALMOST OVER $50,000 THAT SHOULD BE MADE AND NOT EVEN THE IT GUY MAKES THAT MUCH MONEY.

>> COMMISSIONER: IS SAID IN THE BUDGET AND APPROVED IN THE BUDGET AT 1201 WHICH IS A $4000.

>> COMMISSIONER: I THINK IT WAS 30 SOMETHING. IDA IS ON THE LINE IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO HER.

>> COMMISSIONER: I DON'T AGREE WITH US.

>> JUDGE: THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE SPECKED A CLERK THAT WE NEED A

LIBRARIAN? >> GUEST SPEAKER: THAT'S WHAT

THEY ARE REQUESTING. >> JUDGE: IN OTHER WORDS WE GOT THE EXTRA PERSON BUT IT CAME IN AS A CLERK AND IT'S REALLY A LIBRARIAN AND THAT'S THE ADDITIONAL? IDA CAN YOU UNMUTE AND CONFIRM THAT. WE HIRED A LIBRARIAN NOT A CLERK?

>> COMMISSIONER: COMMISSIONERS?

>> JUDGE: YES. >> JUDGE: YES I DO GO AHEAD.

>> COMMISSIONER: HELLO COMMISSIONERS I AM SORRY KIDD WHEN I SUBMITTED THE REQUEST FOR THE BUDGET COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE IT WAS ORIGINALLY FOR 26. I NEVER ASKED FOR THIS TO BE 12 AND I ASSUMED WHEN IT WAS APPROVED IT WAS APPROVED FOR THE 26 AND NOT FOR 1201. BECAUSE WE ARE STILL GOING TO BE PROVIDING SERVICES AND I NEED A LIBRARIAN POSITION AND THE CLERK IS NOT WHAT I NEEDED.

>> COMMISSIONER: YOU NEED AN OUTREACH PERSON.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: I NEED AN OUTREACH LIBRARIAN AND I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT I SUBMITTED IN THE BUDGET. IT WASN'T MY MISTAKE IT WAS A MISTAKE OF THE AUDITORS BECAUSE I SUBMITTED AND ASSUMED IT WAS APPROVED AS A LIBRARIAN BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE A 12 AS MY BUDGET FOR A CLERK IT WAS A LIBRARIAN POSITION. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE DOING THE WORK IN THE OUTREACH FOR THE OUTLYING AREAS. THAT'S GOING TO BE

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ENCOMPASSING AND I NEED A LIBRARIAN POSITION.

>> JUDGE: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL DISPENSE. IT WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING BUT WE NEED A LIBRARIAN AND NOT A CLERK. IS THERE A MOTION CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT AND WE WERE TRYING TO GET WHAT SHE NEEDED AND IF SHE NEEDS IS A LIBRARIAN AND THAT'S WHAT SHE ASKED FOR SOUNDS LIKE A DISCONNECT ON THE DOLLARS AND CENTS.

>> JUDGE: THIS LIBRARIAN JUDGING COMMISSIONERS IS FOR THE OUTLYING AREAS OF BISHOP, AND KITTY, AND IT ENCOMPASSES THE SOUTHERN REGION THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE AND COMMISSIONER BRENT CHESNEY SAID WE DON'T NEED A LIBRARIAN AT THE PIER BUT WE STILL HAVE TO DO THE JOB BECAUSE UTSA MY IS NOT GOING TO DO THE JOB THAT WE HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED ON PAPER HE IS SOMEBODY STILL HAS TO DO THE JOB FOR THE OUTREACH

LIBRARIAN. >> JUDGE: THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IS THIS WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE RURAL AREAS AND IN PARTICULAR THE BISHOP LIBRARY. AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS WE HAVE TO ADJUST TO THE WORLD THAT IS NOT THE WORLD WE WANTED TO BE. WE NEED THE LIBRARIAN. WE OFFERED OUR ASSISTANCE FOR THE OUTREACH AND THIS IS WHAT IS NEEDED AND A DELTA IS $24,700. I'M SURE THAT THE SPECIAL REVENUE CODE ACCOMMODATE IT BUT I KNOW THE

GENERAL FUND COULD ACCOMMODATE IT AS WELL. >> WHAT IS THE SALARY YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.[BLEEP] DEE LIBRARIAN?

WHAT IS THE SALARY? >> JUDGE: PAYGRADE 26.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES MA'AM. >> JUDGE: OKAY.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: IT IS A PERSON WHO HAS A MASTERS DEGREE IN LIBRARY SCIENCE. THAT'S WHAT WE ALL HAVE TO HAVE. > COMMISSIONER: I DON'T REMEMBER YOU MENTIONING ALL THE OTHER

AREAS. >> JUDGE: THAT IS WHO IT WILL BENEFIT. I THINK THE OUTREACH SAID ALL OF THE RURAL

COMMUNITIES. >> COMMISSIONER:

[INDISCERNABLE] >> JUDGE: THE DELTA IS A NUMBER THAT IS EXPRESSED AND AGAIN, I THINK THE WORK IS VALUED. I THINK OUR CHILDREN IN THE RURAL COMMUNITY DO NOT HAVE THE SAME RESOURCES THAT THE URBAN CENTER HAS.

>> COMMISSIONER: THIS ISN'T ABOUT THE CHILDREN.

>> JUDGE: IT IS. >> COMMISSIONER: IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT THE CHILDREN. THEY HAVE A BETTER EDUCATION THE TEACHERS ARE GOING TO HAVE THEM LEARN MORE. ANYBODY CAN TEACH THEM AND ANYBODY CAN LEARN. IT'S NOT THAT GOOD Y'ALL ARE MAKING AN EXCUSE. DO IT LIKE WE ARE DOING. SOMETHING HAPPENED AND

IT WAS A MISTAKE. >> JUDGE: )WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE SHE HAD WHAT SHE NEEDED AND GOT CLASSIFIED AS A CLERK

RATHER THAN A LIBRARIAN. >> COMMISSIONER: I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH.

>> COMMISSIONER: DIDCAN WE NOT TABLE THIS?

>> JUDGE: ARE YOU TRYING TO HIRE THIS PERSON?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES MA'AM AND THAT'S WHY HE BROUGHT IT BACK TO COURT. WHEN I PRESENTED MY CASE TO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND TO YOU AS WELL I EXPRESSED THE OPINION THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE FOR THE BISHOP BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN ASKING. THEY HAVE SAID THEY WANT US TO PROVIDE STEM TECHNOLOGY ARE TRYING TO PROVIDE PETRO AND THE BISHOP AREA. WE HAVE ALREADY HIRED NEW LIBRARY STAFF IN BISHOP AND SHE'S TRYING TO DO PROMOTIONS FOR OUR SERVICES AND WERE TRYING TO GET THE LIBRARIAN OUT TO DO MORE STEM TECHNOLOGY AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED A LIBRARIAN TO START HELPING OUT THERE AND WE WILL DO THE SAME THING. WE JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE EXTENDED SERVICES WHERE THEY ARE NEEDED AND THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE EXPRESSING TO US THAT THEY WANT US TO START IT BUT I CAN'T DO IT WITH A LIBRARIAN I HAVE RIGHT NOW TRYING TO COVER ALL

OUR BASES. >> JUDGE:

>> COMMISSIONER: WHY DON'T THE SCHOOLS HAVE THE RESOURCES?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: NOT EVERYONE HAS STEM TECHNOLOGY RESOURCES

SIR. >> JUDGE: TERESA, OKAY. HE SAYS HE DOESN'T WANT TO ARGUE WITH YOU. CAN I ASK TERESA, ARE YOU STILL ONLINE TERESA? I MAY HAVE LOST HER.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: S JUDGE. > JUDGE: TERESA DO I HAVE ENOUGH DOLLARS IN SPECIAL REVENUE TO TRANSFER THE

REALLOCATION? >> GUEST SPEAKER: YES MA'AM,

YOU DO. >> JUDGE: OKAY, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE ANY ARGUMENTS ABOUT BUDGET. I WILL JUST TRANSFER, WE CAN DEAL WITH IT NEXT BUDGET CYCLE AND

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YOU CAN MAKE IT A CHOICE I THINK THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION IS FOR ME TO TRANSFER MY ALLOCATION AND YOU CAN HELP ME DO THAT I AM CERTAIN WITH SOME PAPERWORK. IS THAT CORRECT,

TERESA? >> GUEST SPEAKER: THAT IS

CORRECT. >> JUDGE: YOU GUYS TRANSFER STUFF ALL DAY LONG. ALL WEEK LONG ON ALL KINDS OF PROJECTS.

LET ME HELP OUT AND NOT MAKE YOU ARGUE ON WHETHER OR NOT CHILDREN AT THE RURAL COMMUNITY SHOULD GET STEM TECHNOLOGY OR NOT. LET ME DO THE SPECIAL REVENUE.

>> COMMISSIONER: YOU KNOW WHAT JUDGE, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING ARE YOU PAYING FOR BISHOP LIBRARY, WE BEEN DOING IT FOR 13 YEARS. LET ME FINISH. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CHILDREN OF THE WORLD LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE CHILDREN OF THE WORLD. IN BISHOP I HAVE ALWAYS HELP IDA SINCE DAY ONE AND SHE CAN'T DENY THAT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HELPING HER TO PAY PART-TIME PEOPLE, TO PAY WHATEVER SHE NEEDS. IT'S NOT ABOUT THE CHILDREN BEING DENIED. I THINK SOMETHING HERE WAS A MISTAKE. I DON'T REMEMBER THIS BEING THAT BUT YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO MAKE PEOPLE OUT TO BELIEVE THAT NO ONE WANTS TO TAKE CARE OF THE CHILDREN, ONLY YOU.

MAYBE IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO PAY SOME MONEY FOR THE LIBRARIES HAD WE BEEN PAYING FOR 13 YEARS.

>> JUDGE: THAT'S WHAT I JUST SAID I SAID LET ME HELPHAVE MY SPECIAL REVENUE TO DO IT AT THIS TIME AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO

WORRY ABOUT IT. >> COMMISSIONER: AND THEN WE

WILL HAVE TO DO IT NEXT YEAR. >> JUDGE: COMMISSIONER YOU GET A CHANCE TO MAKE DECISIONS. YOU DON'T EVEN VOTE FOR THE

BUDGET EACH YEAR. >> COMMISSIONER: YOU DIDN'T VOTE FOR THE HEALTH DISTRICT BUT YOU TAKE A LOT OF TIME

TALKING ABOUT IT. >> JUDGE: THE POINT IS WE ALL

GET A CHANCE EVERY YEAR. >> COMMISSIONER: CAN I INIS WITHOUT BEING INTERRUPTED FOR ONCE? I WOULD LIKE A LIST OF ALL THE ART BUT IN SPECIAL TRANSFER EMPLOYEES AND ALL THE SPECIAL THINGS WE'VE DONE AT THE NEXT MEETING I WANT ON THE AGENDA AND WANT TO SHOW THIS COMMISSIONERS COURT HOW MANY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WE HAVE COMMITTED TO DOWN THE ROAD BY CONTINUING TO KICK THE CAN EVERY TIME I SAY LET'S TRANSFER THIS OR LET'S USE ARPA FOR THIS OR LET'S DO THIS OR WE WILL DEAL WITH THE LATER. I WANT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM AND I WANT TO SHOW THE PUBLIC THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS THAT WE HAVE KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WERE GOING TO DO ANOTHER ONE WHICH WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO STOP DOING IT BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON WE CAN'T STOP DOING IT IS LIKE A DRUG OR ADDICTION THAT WE CAN'T GET AWAY FROM. I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I'M TIRED OF VOTING FOR THINGS THAT WE ARE JUST KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD FOR. I TOLD IDA EARLY ON I DIDN'T SUPPORT THIS DECISION SO THIS ISN'T NEW TO ME. I DON'T AGREE THAT SHE HAS TO DO THIS STUFF OVER AT QUARTER RANCH AND WHEN SHE SAYS I DON'T HAVE ANY REASON OR EXPECTATION OF HER SPENDING ANY TIME AT PORTER RANCH I SAID IT IN WRITING I SAID IT PUBLICLY I BELIEVE UTS IN MY CAN SUFFICE WHAT WE CAN DO. I DON'T THINK WE COMMITTED TO 24/7 OF LIBRARY SERVICES I THINK WE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING SOMETHING. I WANT TO SHOW EVERYONE ON THIS COURT AND EVERYTHING PLEASE PREPARE THAT NEXT WEEK, PUT IT ON THE AGENDA LISTED AS MY AGENDA ITEM SO WE CANNOT ONLY HAVE IT BUT DISCUSS IT BECAUSE ALL WE ARE DOING IS MAKING THIS MORE AND MORE DIFFICULT FOR FUTURE COURTS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO EVER BALANCE A BUDGET WITHOUT RAISING TAXES. WE ARE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE WE WANT TO DO THINGS BECAUSE IT'S AN ELECTION YEAR OR WE WANT TO MAKE EVERYONE FEEL GOOD. WHATEVER THE CASE IS. I AM TIRED OF US KICKING THIS FINANCIAL CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE A PART OF IT BECAUSE YOU JUDGE CONTINUED TO SAY LET'S DON'T HURT THE CHILDREN. EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY DECISION WE MAKE AFFECTS CHILDREN AND PEOPLE. THAT IS WHAT WE DO BUT YOU ALWAYS PLAY ON EVERYONE'S EMOTIONS AND MAKE US LOOK LIKE THE BAD PEOPLE IF WE DON'T WANT TO HELP THE CHILDREN. WE HAVE DONE MORE FOR CHILDREN THAN ANYONE I KNOW. WE'VE DONE IT COLLECTIVELY AS A BODY, INDIVIDUALLY AND IT JUST GETS SO OLD EVERY TIME YOU DON'T THINK YOUR WINNING AN ARGUMENT THAT YOU BLAME IT ON US AND YOU THROW IT ON US AND IT'S ABOUT THE CHILDREN AND YOU HIT THE EMOTIONAL CORE TO MAKE IT SOUND, IT'S JUST WRONG AND INCORRECT MOST OF THE TIME, TOO. NO I DON'T SUPPORT THIS BUT I WILL ALWAYS CONTINUE TO HELP CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY AS I HAVE FOR MY ENTIRE ADULT LIFE AND PROBABLY MY YOUTH LIFE. WITH THIS THING ON THEIR NEXT WEEK TABLE IT WILL COME BACK TO IT LATER THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL QUESTION. I WAS WILLING TO LOOK AT IT LATER BUT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BEEN GREAT, LET'S VOTED IN. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME FINISH MY CONVERSATION.

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>> COMMISSIONER: AMEN. >> JUDGE: I WILL GO BACK TO THE AGENDA ITEM IN THE AGENDA ITEM IS TO RE-APPROVE THE CLASSIFICATION. I HAVE A MOTION THAT I MADE I THINK THERE WAS A SECOND. THE DIFFERENCE IN THIS MOTION IS THAT IT WOULD BE A TRANSFER OF SPECIAL REVENUE TO COVER JUST THIS FISCAL YEAR AND WHO MADE THE SECOND? COMMISSIONER JOHN MAREZ DID YOU MAKE A SECOND? THIS WAS FOR THE TRANSFER ALLOCATION FOR THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH FOR BISHOP, DRISCOLL AND PETRO NILA. AGAIN, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ARPA. IT WILL BE THE SPECIAL REVENUE AND THIS WILL HELP SOLVE THE GAP FOR NOW. AT ANY RATE, IS THERE A MOTION AND A SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> COMMISSIONER: NO. >> JUDGE: OKAY. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT YOU WANT ME TO HELP?

>> COMMISSIONER: I APPRECIATE YOU HELPING BUT I SAY NO.

>> JUDGE: SO YOU DON'T WANT MY HELP?

>> COMMISSIONER: YOU ASKED FOR MY VOTE AND I SAID NO.

>> JUDGE: I GOT IT AND SO DID THE CAMERAS. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE RULES ARE ON THE TRANSFER OF OUR SPECIAL

REVENUES? >> GUEST SPEAKER: THAT IS GOING TO BE TRANSFERRED THROUGH YOUR FUNDS JUDGE, IT IS NOT -ÁSPEAKER1Á THE CLERK, FOR EXAMPLE.

>> COMMISSIONER: WE HAVE TO CLASSIFY THE POSITION. WE HAVE

TO RECLASSIFY THE POSITION. >> JUDGE: WHAT ABOUT THE CLERK HERE THAT CLERK IS ALREADY FUNDED?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS 30 SOMETHING

FROM THE GENERAL FUND. >> JUDGE: THOSE ARE ARTIE DONE THEY WON'T NEED ANY SPECIAL REVENUE.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: YOU ARE JUST GOING TO TRANSFER THE

DIFFERENCE. >> JUDGE: COMMISSIONER ROBERTO HERNANDEZ THOSE ARE YOUR AREAS. BISHOP WHAT WAS YOUR VOTE?

WHAT WAS YOUR VOTE? >> COMMISSIONER: YOU DON'T GET TO EXPLAIN EVERYTHING YOU WANT TO.

>> JUDGE: I AM ASKING FOR THE CLERK WHAT WAS YOUR VOTE?

>> COMMISSIONER: WHAT I'M ASKING IS IS THIS COMING OUT OF

YOUR BUDGET? >> JUDGE: YES, MY BUDGET. GIVE

SPECIAL REVENUE. >> JUDGE: THIS YEAR.

>> JUDGE: KNOW THIS YEAR BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION FOR NEXT YEAR. IT IS ONLY FOR THIS YEAR RIGHT NOW WHILE WE HAVE

THE RESOURCES THAT WE NEED. >> COMMISSIONER: ARE WE PAYING

FOR THE LIBRARIAN OR CLERK? >> JUDGE: THE CLERK IS ALREADY ESTABLISHED. THIS IS FOR THE LIBRARIAN. SHE BELIEVES THERE WAS AN ERROR MADE AND I'M GIVING YOU A WAY TO CORRECT THE ERROR FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR ALONE. MY QUESTION IS.

>> COMMISSIONER: THE CLERK IS ALREADY IN PLACE.

>> JUDGE: IT WAS A MISTAKE SHE BELIEVES AND MY QUESTION IS IF I WILL BACK IT UP WITH SPECIAL REVENUE FOR THE YEAR, WHAT IS

YOUR VOTE? >> COMMISSIONER: WILL JUDGE I WILL GO ALONG WITH IT IF IT'S COMING OUT OF YOUR BUDGET.

>> JUDGE: IT IS SIR. JUST FOR THIS YEAR.

>> COMMISSIONER: NEXT YEAR WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. DON'T BE DISHONEST. WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER 25,000 THAT WILL HAVE TO PICK UP FROM THE BUDGET CHALLENGE NEXT YEAR. THIS IS A ONE-TIME INJECTION THAT WE HAVE TO PICK UP NEXT YEAR.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: THIS WILL BE A MIDYEAR PRE-CLASS.

>> COMMISSIONER: WE SHOULD SEE HOW THE PUBLIC IN THOSE RURAL AREAS WILL REACT TO IT IF IT'S NOT WORTH IT WE CAN REJECT IT.

>> COMMISSIONER: NO WE CAN'T BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THE POSITION HIRED. WILL HAVE TO FIRE SOMEBODY. ALL OF THESE POSITIONS THAT SPECIFICTHE DIFFICULTY OF WHAT WERE DOING.

ALL THESE POSITIONS THAT WE'VE DONE WITH ARPA AND SPECIAL SUPPLEMENTS AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS NO ONE'S GOING TO WANT TO GIVE THOSE POSITIONS UP NEXT YEAR. NO ONE.

EVERYONE WILL COME IN HERE AND SAY WE NEED IS FOR THE CHILDREN IS FOR THE WHATEVER. WE NEED TO BE REALLY CLEAR ON WHAT WERE DOING AND BE HONEST WITH OURSELVES BECAUSE WE ARE ABSOLUTELY KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ON ALL THESE POSITIONS AND IT IS HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WHEN SHE BRINGS US BACK AND IT IS GOING TO BE A HORRIBLE BUDGET WIN ARPA MONEY RUNS OUT. WE CAN GO ONE MORE YEAR BUT AT SOME POINT THIS COURT IS GOING TO HAVE 500,000, $600,000 OF PICKUP THAT WE HAVE TO DO AND WE NEED TO BE HONEST WITH OURSELVES AND HONEST WITH THE PUBLIC ABOUT IT. IF YOU WANT TO VOTE COMMISSIONERS I RESPECTED HAVE NO PROBLEM YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT A ONE-TIME THING.

>> JUDGE: WE WANT TO SAY SOMETHING AND I WANT TO REMIND

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YOU THAT WE ALREADY VOTED TO DO A SLIDING SCALE SO THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE BUDGET WOULD BE THAT WE DO 80 6040. ON THE POSITIONS WE ALREADY ESTABLISHED JUST SO YOU KNOW WE ALREADY MADE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME A REALITY AND IT GAVE US, WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT GROWTH FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WE LOOKED AT REVENUE THAT IS COMING FOR EXAMPLE THE CC POLYMER COMES OFF OF ABATEMENT AND 23. I AM HAPPY TO HAVE YOU GET YOUR BACKUP BECAUSE WHAT IS GOING TO SHOW IS FOR ARPA WE WERE UNBELIEVABLY RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE THIS COURT ALREADY VOTED FOR THE SLIDING SCALE MAYBE YOU FORGOT THAT BUT 80 60

40. >> I JUST DON'T KNOW A WAY TO

PAY FOR IT. >> IT GIVES YOU A WAY FOR GROWTH AS A BACKSTOP FOR THOSE POSITIONS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AND IF YOU CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT IN FIVE YEARS AND MAYBE IT'S NOT NEEDED. BUT I THINK THAT COMMISSIONER JOHN MAREZ WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING.

>> COMMISSIONER: MY CONCERN IS WHAT THE COMMISSIONER SAID, ARE THESE PEOPLE FIRED IF WE DON'T FIND IT? IS IT CONSIDERED FIRING OR A RIFT? IT DOESN'T DEAL WITH THIS ITEM, IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BUT IF WE CAN GET A LEGAL OPINION ON THAT FOR YOUR BEST RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT THAT TERMINOLOGY MEANS.

IS THERE A DIFFERENCE, IS THERE AND HE WANTS?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: I THINK FOR THE PERSON WHO'S NOT HIRED THE NEXT DAY IT'S NOT A REAL MATTER OF WHAT YOU CALL IT. IT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TRANSITION WHOSE PEOPLE'S JOBS DISAPPEARED FOR WHATEVER REASON.

>> JUDGE: IT HAPPENS WITH GRANT, TOO. WE HAVE LOTS OF POSITIONS IN THE COUNTY THAT ARE GRANT FUNDED AND WHEN THE GRANT GOES OUT WE COME TO COURT AND WE SAY PEOPLE PAY TAXES AND THEY SHOULD GET SERVICES AND IF IT ALLOWS FOR IT YOU SHOULD AT LEAST GIVE IT DUE CONSIDERATION. OUR BUDGET ACTUALLY ALLOWS FOR A GIVEN THAT WE USE THE INCREMENTAL VALUE THIS YEAR AND NOT THE THREE AND HALF PERCENT BUT HAVING SAID THAT IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT IT WAS NOT, IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT LONGEVITY THAT YOU WOULD FUND UNDER ARPA BECAUSE IT'S A GRANT FUND AND PEOPLE HAVE A LITTLE MORE AWARENESS THAT THE GRANT DOES AND. IN THIS CASE, THE METRIC OF HAVING IT IS SHOW WHAT COMMISSIONER ROBERTO HERNANDEZ SAID SHOW ME IT IS WORKING, SHOW ME THAT IT'S VALUED AND WE CAN SEE WHAT WE CAN DO IN A YEAR FROM NOW.

>> COMMISSIONER: LIKE I SAID I DON'T WANT TO SPEND MORE TIME ON THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS NUANCE. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE TECH NICOLE EXPLANATION OF THAT IS. IF IT'S NOT HR LAW, IS IT REDUCTION IN FORCE? ARE THEY TECHNICALLY CONSIDERED FIRING, I KNOW JULIE WANTS TO SPEAK BUT I WOULD LIKE THAT. IT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN THAT COMMISSIONER BRENT CHESNEY IS PRENUP AND HE'S BROUGHT THAT UP SEVERAL TIMES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND IT BETTER SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS BETTER SO THAT ARE WE IN ESSENCE LOCKING OURSELVES INTO FUNDING EVERY YEAR? IF NOT WE ARE FIRING A PERSON. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE TECHNICAL EXPLANATION OF THAT IS. I MEAN, WE GAVE MONEY IN ARPA FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO EITHER IT DISAPPEARS WITHIN A COUPLE YEARS OR WERE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A COMMITMENT TO KEEP THAT FUNDING THROUGH GENERAL FUND.

IT'S HAPPENING EVERYWHERE BUT I THINK IT'S A LEGITIMATE QUESTION THAT I WOULD LIKE ALL OF US TO HAVE AN ANSWER ON. IF YOU CAN GET WITH HR AND WORK GATHER ON EXACTLY WHAT THE LAW SAYS HOW IS IT CONSIDERED AND IS IT A MATTER OF PERSPECTIVE OR IS THERE A LEGAL DEFINITION THAT SAYS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOLLOWS THAT AND INDICATES A PERSON IS FIRED IF THE BUDGET DOES NOT CONTAIN CONTINUE THAT POSITION. THAT IS WHAT I'M ASKING FOR BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN WITH ADDRESSING OR AT LEAST KNOWING SO THAT IF I AM ASKED THAT QUESTION I HAVE A BETTER EXPLANATION TO THE PUBLIC OR TO AN EMPLOYEE IF THEY GET A REDUCTION IN FORCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE FUTURE.

>> COMMISSIONER: ARE YOU ASKING TO TABLE?

>> COMMISSIONER: I THINK WE VOTED ON THIS ISSUE BUT I'M SAYING FOR THE FUTURE SO I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS SO THAT IT IS NOT IN INTERPRETATION OF IF IT IS A FIRING OR NOT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT DOES THE LEGAL LAW SAY? IS THAT POSITION NO LONGER FUNDED? ARE THEY TERMINATED OR IS IT PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS?

>> JUDGE: JULIE IS HERE AND SHE CAN HELP DISCUSS WHAT HAPPENS

WHEN A BUDGET DISAPPEARS. >> GUEST SPEAKER: ESPECIALLY ALL THE ARPA POSITIONS HAVE HIRED FOR WE HAVE AN IN-STATE

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ON THOSE. WE POSTED THOSE JOBS THAT IT WOULD EITHER ENDS THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR BUT THEN WE EXTENDED THEM FOR ANOTHER YEAR.

THOSE ARE ALL SET TO ASK I WILL EXPIRE ON 9-30-23. IT WOULD BE A REDUCTION OF FORCE. THE PERSON WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE FIRED BUT THEY KNOW THAT THEIR JOB WOULD GO AWAY ON THAT DATE.

SO WHEN THE MONEY GOES AWAY THE POSITION GOES AWAY. AND THAT IS WHY WE HANDLE OUR GRANT POSITIONS LIKE THAT AS WELL.

>> COMMISSIONER: AT THE END OF 23 THOSE ARE ALL GOING TO COME IN AND THEY'RE ALL GOING TO WANT US TO KEEP THEM TO

UNDERSTAND. >> GUEST SPEAKER: I USUALLY TRY TO FIND THEM A POSITION IN ANOTHER DEPARTMENT OR A VACANCY

SOMEWHERE. >> COMMISSIONER: SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC WE HAVE A CONSTABLE AND THERE'S CONCERN, WE HAVE A BUNCH, RIGHT? AND LAW ENFORCEMENT MY GOSH, WE TOLD THEM THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE TWO YEARS BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU GET USED TO IT. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE REALLY TOUGH WHEN THOSE ARPA FUNDS RUN OUT AND JUST REALLY REALLY TOUGH.

>> COMMISSIONER: WE HAVE TO BE UPFRONT WITH THEM.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: THEY ARE POSTED THAT WAY. THEY ARE.

THERE IS A NOTICE ON THE JOB POSTING.

>> JUDGE: WE ACTUALLY HARVESTED DOLLARS FOR THE DECLINE OVER TIME. THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME TO US BY HAGGERTY TO AVOID THE SITUATION TO ALLOW YOU TIME AND BY THE WAY THE GRANT HAS THE SAME TYPE OF DE-ESCALATION BUT THE ANSWER TO COMMISSIONER JOHN MAREZ'S QUESTION TO STAY ON TRACK IS IT'S NOT A FIRING. THAT WORD MEANS SOMETHING IN LABOR LAW. IT IS A TERMINATION OF THE POSITION.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: CORRECT. >> COMMISSIONER: EXCUSE ME JUDGE I THINK I WANT TO RESEND MY VOTE. I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN. EVERY YEAR WE ARE HUSTLING TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIND MONEY TO GIVE OUR EMPLOYEES RAISES THE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN THERE 20 OR 30 YEARS OR 10 YEARS. I WANT TO PLAY IT SAFE. IF WE COME INTO SOME MORE MONEY LATER ON AND WE STILL NEED THOSE POSITIONS WE CAN WORK WITH IT BUT RIGHT NOW MY BIGGEST PROBLEM IS HOW DO WE END UP MAKING ALL OF THESE MISTAKES AND THE COMMISSIONER SAY THERE WAS A MIXUP OR MISTAKE OR WASN'T DONE RIGHT IT WASN'T PRINTED RIGHT? HOW IS THAT HAPPENING?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: EXCUSE ME, BEFORE YOU RESEND, I HOPE YOU LISTEN TO WHAT I WILL SAY. I KNOW FOR THE PAST 10 TO 12 YEARS I HAVE BEEN GOING TO COMMISSIONERS COURT TO EXPRESS OUR STATISTICS FOR OUR LIBRARIES AND FOR THE PAST 10 OR 12 YEARS AND EVEN COMMISSIONER JOHN MAREZ CAN ATTEST TO THAT, YOUR DISTRICT HAS BEEN THE NUMBER 1 IN THE AREA. I KNOW THIS YEAR WE DID NOT GO TO COMMISSIONERS COURT BECAUSE THEY HAD TOO MANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AND WE WERE ONE OF THE ONES THAT GOT CANCELED BUT WE WILL GO BACK AND I CAN SHOW YOU OUR STAFF THAT WILL PROVE TO YOU IN THE COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT THE AREA IS NEEDED AN ADDITIONAL LIBRARY AND TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO ONCE WE GET THIS POSITION. RIGHT NOW WE ARE PROVIDING SERVICES BUT WE WANT TO EXTEND THEM AND YOUR AREA IS THE ONE THAT NEEDS A LIBRARY IN THE MOST.

>> COMMISSIONER: HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU FIGURE YOU WILL

BE SERVICING IN THAT AREA? >> GUEST SPEAKER: I DON'T HAVE THOSE FIGURES BUT I CAN'T SEND THEM TO YOU. ESPECIALLY WHEN OUR SUMMER READING PROGRAM, YOU ARE THE PERSON.

>> COMMISSIONER: I DO UNDERSTAND. I KNOW THERE'S SOME HELP THAT THEY NEED BUT THIS HAS GOTTEN VERY CONFUSING TO ME BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, WE STARTED WITH ALL THESE PROBLEMS BECAUSE THERE WAS A MISTAKE HOW SOMEBODY DIDN'T READ IT RIGHT, SOMEBODY PRINTED IT WRONG OR DIDN'T SAY IT RIGHT.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: IF YOU LOOK IN MY BUDGET IT DOES SAY 2601 WHEN I PROPOSE MY BUDGET AND NEVER PUT DOWN 12. IT WAS NOT MY MISTAKE IT WAS SOMEBODY IN THE AUDITORS DEPARTMENT. IT IS NOT MY FAULT. AND I'M HAVING TO GO BACK AND CLEAR THIS UP SO THAT YOU ALL KNOW AND HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION IN THE SUMMER WHEN I SPOKE TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU AND HAD THE CONCERN OF THE OTHER LIBRARIAN AND IT WAS NOT MY MISTAKE. IT WAS APPROVED AS A 26 AND SOMEONE NOTED IT AS A 12.

>> JUDGE: IF WE CAN GO BACK, DO WE FILM OUR BUDGET WORKSHOPS? WHY DON'T WE GO BACK TO THE BUDGET WORKSHOP AND SEE IF WE APPROVED A 26. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY I JUST THINK THAT IS REALLY WHERE WE END UP. THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS THAT WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS AND PEOPLE MAKE ERRORS

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AND IF THEY THOUGHT GENUINELY THEY MEANT CLERK THAT WAS JUST IN INNOCENT ERROR. THE PURPOSE OF HAVING IT ON AND AGENDA ITEM IS TO ADHERE TO WHAT IT IS THAT WE VOTED ON. I THINK IT'S A 26 ON THE WORKSHOP AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE GIVING HER AND THAT'S WHAT SHE ASKED FOR AND WE SAID YES GOING TO GIVE IT TO HER.

THE ONLY THING I CAN ASK YOU, IDA IS THAT YOU COME BACK NEXT WEEK TO GET THE POTENTIAL TO GET WHAT YOU NEED RATHER THAN SETTLE FOR WHAT YOU DON'T NEED. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN DO HERE. IF HE IS GOING TO RESEND HIS VOTE THEN THERE'S REALLY NO, I TRIED TO DO THIS TO WHERE I CAN GIVE IT A WAY OUT BUT IT GETS TO BE WHERE IT BECOMES AN ISSUE ABOUT FUTURE FUNDING AND IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT WAY. IT SHOULD BE AN ISSUE OF WHAT THE NEEDS ARE TODAY AND WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US TODAY.

THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE PAY THEIR TAXES FOR. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE IT COME BACK IF THAT WOULD GIVE YOU THE TIME TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS OF IDA. I DO THINK YOUR COMMUNITY IS THE LOWEST TO MODERATE INCOME NOT JUST IN OUR COUNTY, BUT IN THE STATE. OF THE WHOLE STATE. THEY DON'T HAVE FAMILIES THAT HAVE ALL THE RESOURCES THAT WE DO AND THAT'S WHY I THINK WE SHOULD GO ABOVE AND BEYOND BUT MAINLY, IF WE SAID 26 THEN WE SHOULD HAVE 26 AND WHO CARES IF IT WAS A TRANSPOSING DEAL. RIGHT?

>> COMMISSIONER: ARE YOU ASKING TO TABLE THIS END.

>> JUDGE: I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP THE

COMMUNITY BY USING MY FUNDING. >> GUEST SPEAKER: I CAN GIVE YOU THE STATS NEXT WEEK AND WE CAN POSTPONE IT TO THE

FOLLOWING WEEK. >> COMMISSIONER: IF YOU CAN PUT IT BACK ON NEXT WEEK OR WHATEVER. THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ASK FOR IS THEY WANTED TO HAVE SOME TIME TO GO TALK ABOUT IT YOU HAD A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FIRST AND I THINK THAT IS ALL THEY WANTED WAS A WEEK TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT AND THAT'S WHY WE WERE TRYING TO TABLE IT. BUT YOUR MOTION

WAS ON THE FLOOR. >> JUDGE: MY MOTION HAD ALREADY BEEN ON THE FLOOR AND YOU HAD VOTED. I GUESS WE WILL RESEND HOURS TO GIVE IDA THE CHANCE TO GET WHAT SHE NEEDS. I WILL RESEND AND ASK FOR A SECOND ON THAT DECISION.

>> COMMISSIONER: WHAT ARE YOU RESENDING?

>> JUDGE: THE MOTION THAT I WANT AND IT APPROVED.

>> COMMISSIONER: WELL SO THEN. >> JUDGE: HE WANTS TO RESEND

IT. THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER: THE MOTION HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE AND FAILED YOU WANT TO TAKE A MOTION TO

TABLE THAT? >> JUDGE: THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING BUT IT ALREADY ONE. THE MOTION ALREADY PASSED.

>> COMMISSIONER: JUDGE YOU JUST AGREED TO TABLE IT.

>> COMMISSIONER: IF HE RESCINDED THE MOTION AND A FAILED THEN YOU WOULD NEED TO RESEND IT.

>> JUDGE: HE SAID YES. >> COMMISSIONER: I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES.

>> JUDGE: CARA, X OUT THE PREVIOUS ONE WHATEVER IT TAKES I THINK WE SHOULD WITHDRAW THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER THERE'S A MOTION TO TABLE IS THERE A SECOND?

>> COMMISSIONER: SECOND UNTIL WHEN?

>> JUDGE: WHATEVER, DO IT HOW YOU THINK. I'M NOT GOING TO

ARGUE IT ANYMORE. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THE 19TH.

>> JUDGE: IDA, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO GET THE INFO TO COMMISSIONER JOE GONZALEZ. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. WE DID NUMBER 8 WITH HOMER AND NUMBER 9 IS TO CREATE AN ARPA MANAGER POSITION AND IT WAS APPROVED. GO AHEAD AND TELL EVERYBODY WHAT IT WAS.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: IT WAS APPROVED FOR 2223 AND AS YOU KNOW THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN IS THROUGH 2026. IN 2024 WE HAD PROJECTS ALREADY ALLOCATED AND IN 2026 ALL THE MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT. I'M ASKING RIGHT NOW IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE

THAT YES, ALLOCATED AN EXTRA. >> JUDGE: ALL RIGHT I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND TO 2024. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> COMMISSIONER: SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME I'M SORRY. YOU WANT

TO EXTEND WHAT? >> GUEST SPEAKER: THE POSITION

THROUGH 2024. >> JUDGE: WE ALREADY APPROVED IT TO 2023 AND I WANT TO EXTEND IT.

>> COMMISSIONER: THAT'S WHAT I DIDN'T HEAR, I AM SORRY. WE DID ALLOCATE ENOUGH FUNDS TO GO THROUGH 24?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: 24 AND THEN WE WILL LOOK INTO IT AGAIN BECAUSE REMEMBER THE ARPA LAST THROUGH 2026 BASICALLY.

>> COMMISSIONER: BUT THIS FOR 2023 WE HAVE AN ALLOCATED FOR

2024 YET? >> COMMISSIONER: IT WILL BE

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RIGHT AROUND $80,000. >> COMMISSIONER: BUT THIS ONE WE KNOW IT GOES AWAY 100 PERCENT.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: AND THAT IS WHAT IS POSTED. THE POSITION

WILL GO AWAY. >> COMMISSIONER: NOBODY IS GOING TO ASK FOR THIS ONE TO STAY BECAUSE THERE'S NOT GOING

TO BE THE ARPA MONEY. >> COMMISSIONER: I WOULDN'T SAY THAT I WOULD SAY IT'S FINE THROUGH 2024.

>> COMMISSIONER: TELL ME WHY BECAUSE I'M ONLY SUPPORTING IT

THROUGH THAT. >> JUDGE: THEN I WILL SHARE.

>> COMMISSIONER: DON'T TALK ME OUT OF IT.

>> JUDGE: YOU KNOW WHAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO BE NOT COMPLAINING LATER. AS YOU KNOW THESE PROJECTS ARE NOT PROJECTS, SOME OF THEM THAT WILL END IN 2024 AND I FEEL LIKE YOU SHOULD BE ON MORNING THROUGH 2026 BUT I'M HAPPY THROUGH 24 BECAUSE IT GIVES US TO ANOTHER MILESTONE. YOU KNOW?

>> COMMISSIONER: JUDGE LET'S TALK THROUGH THAT LET'S NOT KEEP COMING BACK. IF YOU THE COUNTY MANAGER AND YOU NEED TO

MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION. >> GUEST SPEAKER: I WOULD

RECOMMEND 26. >> JUDGE: AT WHICH TIME ALL ARPA PROJECT SHOULD BE DISPOSED OF.

>> COMMISSIONER: LET'S NOT KEEP DOING THIS. LOOK YOU ARE THE COUNTY MANAGER YOU NEED TO COME IN HERE AND YOU NEED TO TELL US WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS ON A LOT OF THESE THINGS RIGHT? SO IT DOESN'T MEAN WERE GOING TO AGREE WITH ALL OF THEM BUT WHEN I STARTED CITY COUNCIL IS A CITY MANAGER AND STAFF WOULD COME IN AND GIVE US STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE CAN AGREE OR NOT AGREE PEERED WHEN WE HIRED THE COUNTY MANAGER THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD HOPE JULIE I HOPE WE WOULD'VE ALL BEEN TO. THE COUNTY MANAGER WOULD COME IN WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ON THEITEMS AND WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT. WE NEED TO DEFINE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND MAYBE WE NEED TO MAKE THAT PART OF THE POLICY OR WHATEVER BECAUSE, TO ME THAT IS HOW THEY SHOULD RUN. AS THE JUDGE SAID, WE ARE A TOP COUNTY WE ARE BIG AND THAT'S HOW WE NEED TO DO IT IF YOU ARE RECOMMENDING ALL GO ON A LITTLE BIT BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING NEXT SO GIVE YOU A LITTLE FORESHADOWING THAT MAY BE ON THE AGENDA NEXT TIME BUT IF YOU ARE SAYING YOU NEED IT THROUGH 26 WE NEED TO DO IT NOW BECAUSE WERE GOING TO RUN OUT OF MONEY.

>> COMMISSIONER: WILL THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH HAGGERTY?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: WE ARE GOING TO WORK ALTOGETHER. BECAUSE I POSTED THE JUDGES DESCRIPTION WHAT IT IS AND THEN WE NEED TO LOOK INTO HAVING AN INPUT HOUSE PERSON WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THE PARTY HEADS WITH THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN.

>> COMMISSIONER: THE REST OF THAT STORY SHOULD BE THAT THIS PERSON WILL LESSEN THE NEED FOR HAGGERTY OVER TIME. RIGHT?

>> JUDGE: YES, IT LESSENS THE BURDEN. LIKE TODAY WE DID THE VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS. RIGHT NOW THE REASON IT TAKES LONG WHICH YOU SHOULD AND IS THERE IS NO COORDINATOR IN-HOUSE THAT OUGHT TO BE WORKING WITH ALL THE RESOURCES THAT WE'VE

ALREADY PUT IN PLACE. >> COMMISSIONER: THEY WOULD HELP CREATE A POLICY ON THE STREAMLINED PROCESS.

>> JUDGE: TRUST ME THAT GOT TABLE TODAY WE WILL WORK ON THAT IN ANOTHER COURT. THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT. YOU NEED TO HAVE PERSONNEL TO BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE IT. IF YOU ASK

ME, >> COMMISSIONER: IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION ALL THE WAY THROUGH 26? UP TO 26?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: 24. >> COMMISSIONER: UNLESS WE DISPOSE OF ALL ARPA PROJECTS BEFORE.

>> COMMISSIONER: I WOULD SECOND THAT MOTION AND THE FISCAL ALLOCATION ON THAT IS ABOUT $320,000 ROUGHLY?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: THAT'S CORRECT.

>> COMMISSIONER: THAT WILL COME OUT OF THE CONTINGENCY I WANT TO MAKE ITSURE EVERYONE GETS THAT. THAT'S TAKING AWAY MONEY WE CAN USE BUT AGAIN WHAT I DON'T WANT TO COME BACK. I DON'T WANT TO BE PAYING THIS AND THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT HAGGERTY. I WANT TO SEE THAT THEY SHOULD BE REDUCING THE NEED FOR HAGGERTY OR WE ARE DOUBLE PAYING.

>> JUDGE: YOU ARE REALLY NOT BUT LET'S HAVE THAT ARGUMENT ANOTHER DAY. THIS ALL HAS TO DO WITH UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS. LET'S TRY TO STICK TO THIS AGENDA. YOU PROVED THEIR CONTRACT SEVERAL MONTHS BACK IN THE WORK AUTHORIZATION IS LIKE

AMNESIA. >> COMMISSIONER: I THINK I

WOULD KNOW THAT. >> COMMISSIONER: WE DID WHAT

JUDGE? >> JUDGE: HE SAID THEY'RE NOT WORKING FOR US AND I SAID YES THEY ARE HE REMINDED ME THAT HE DID NOT VOTE FOR IT AND I SAID FINE. LET'S GO ON. THE GO ON, IF THIS IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO GO THROUGH 24? ALL RIGHT, 2026. IS THERE A MOTION FOR THAT?

>> COMMISSIONER: YES I THANK YOU MADE IT OR SECONDED IT.

>> JUDGE: FOR 24. IS THERE ONE FOR 26?

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>> COMMISSIONER: WHATEVER YOU CAN MAKE IT OR I CAN MAKE IT.

WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU SO NICELY ARTICULATED CAN YOU

ARTICULATE IT AGAIN JUDGE? >> JUDGE: I WILL MAKE THE MOTION FOR HEAVEN SAKES. WE GO THROUGH ARPA 26. ALL RIGHT WAIT A SECOND I WILL MAKE A MOTION AND CALL FOR A DISCUSSION THE NEW MOTION IS TO EXTEND A TIME PERIOD FOR THE POSITION WHICH HAS NOT BEEN FILLED YET TO BE IN ARPA MANAGER POSITION AND THE POSITION BE CHANGED IN THE JOB DESCRIPTION TO THE IN-STATE 2026 OR AT SUCH TIME AS ALL ARPA PROJECTS IN THE COUNTY HAVE BEEN PROPERLY DISPOSED OF.

>> COMMISSIONER: SECOND. >> JUDGE: SECOND AND THEN GO AHEAD JULIE WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: IT HELPS WITH THEIR EQUIPMENT TO KNOW THE IN-STATE. WHEN THE PERSON IS APPLYING FOR THE POSITION THEY KNOW THEY'LL BE WORKING HERE FOR ONE YEAR OR FIVE MORE YEARS OR FOUR MORE YEARS. IT HELPS FOR THE RECRUITMENT.

>> JUDGE: I AGREE WITH THAT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE AREA OKAY. JUAN YOU HAVE TWO ITEMS ONE IS A FINAL PLAT OF LOT 31 A AND I CAN SEE SIMON HERE WE HAVE A FEW MORE ITEMS AND THEN WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. NO ONE HAS EVEN TAKEN A LUNCH BREAK YET.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS LOT 31 A BLOCK ONE IT IS A TWO ACRES TRACK AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

>> JUDGE: IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? A SECOND AND YOU

PRONOUNCE IT JAYHLAN? >> COMMISSIONER:

>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES MA'AM. >> JUDGE: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OKAY IN THE SECOND IS YOU WILL LOOK FOR COOPERATIVE QUOTES WITH THE REAL WORK OF THE BUILDING?

>> YES. THEY WILL RECEIVE COOPERATIVE BIDS FOR THE REROOFING OF THE BUILDING ABOUT 25,000 SQUARE FEET OF REROOFING AND RIGHT NOW THE ROOF IS WARPING AND IS STARTING TO HAVE BUBBLES ON TOP OF THE N TOP OF THE ROOF AND I KNOW WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE PATCHING IT UP AND IT'S TO THE POINT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE REROOFED. I KNOW THAT'S A MULTIPLE FACILITY IN THERE AND THE NEW ONE IS GOING TO BE THE NEW CLINIC AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE CAN OFFER COOPERATIVE BID.

>> JUDGE: WE HAVE A NEW POLICY THAT SAYS WE WILL SUPPORT THIS BUT THE NEW POLICY SAID WE WILL DO FUNDING BUT I'M GOING TO TURN TO TERESA NOW. I THINK SHE'S ARTIE LOOKED AT THIS FOR YOU AND LET IDENTIFY HOW WE WILL FUND THIS AND THAT WAY WE WILL MAKE A MOTION TO GO OUT FOR THESE COOPERATIVE QUOTES AND IS THE REASON YOU WANT TO DO CO-OP AND NOT BID IS TO MOVE IT? IS IT FOR EFFICIENCY SAKE?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES MA'AM RIGHT NOW WERE ARGUING NEW CLINIC AND THEY WILL BE DOING POSSIBLY THE NEW CONSTABLE'S OFFICE. RIGHT NOW IS A GOOD TIME TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT

IN AND SEALED. >> JUDGE: PERFECT. LET'S ASK TERESA SO SHE CAN GIVE US THE CONFIDENCE AND IT CAN ADHERE TO OUR OWN COUNTY POLICIES. TERESA, DO YOU HAVE A THOUGHT OR A SOURCE? I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO ASK WHO IS IT BUT DO YOU HAVE A SOURCE FOR US THAT AT LEAST HAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DOLLARS IN IT THAT WE CAN ACCESS SO THAT WE CAN GO OUT FOR THESE QUOTES? THERE IS A DELAY. THAT IS WHY IT TAKES A

WHILE. >> GUEST SPEAKER: AND THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT YOU CAN ACCESS SO WE CAN GO OUT FOR

THESE QUOTES ?. >> GUEST SPEAKER: JUDGE WE HAVE AVAILABLE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY PUT IN PLACE FOR THAT

BUILDING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> JUDGE: YES.

>> JUDGE: TERESA IF YOU ARE ON TWO DIFFERENT DEVICES YOU NEED TO MUTE YOUR OTHER ONE. TURN OFF YOUTUBE. B3 I AM SORRY. I

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AM SORRY. I AM SO SORRY. WE HAVE SOME FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN THE MILLION-DOLLAR ALLOCATION THAT WE HAVE ALREADY PUT IN PLACE FOR THE CALDERON BUILDING. THERE ARE FUNDS AVAILABLE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COSTS ARE THAT THEY HAVE TO COME UP WITH WHAT WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER THREE AND $1000

AVAILABLE. >> JUDGE: JUAN, BASED ON NORMAL CONSTRUCTION PRACTICES WHAT IS IT PER SQUARE FOOT? THE RANGE.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: CAN YOU HEAR ME JUDGE? GO AHEAD. B3 JUDGE, LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS WITH THE INCREASE IN MATERIALS AND LABOR I'M GOING TO PUT A NUMBER TO IT.

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>> MINE ARE 21, CHOSE DUES ARE 21, MORRISES MAY NOT BE. OKAY?

>> THE ALLOCATED IS ALREADY IN THE COLD AROUND PROJECT.

>> MAYBE WE DON'T EVEN NEED THESE EXTRA DOLLARS. I'M CERTAIN YOU'RE GIVING US A LOT OF WIGGLE ROOM IN THERE. X YES

MA'AM. YES MA'AM. >> PROF.GILL: ALL THOSE IN

FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING A. >> THINK A JUDGE OF

COMMISSIONERS. >> IF THERE WASN'T ONE THAN I

DID. >> OKAY.

>> APPROVED THE MONTHLY FINANCIAL DETAIL, GIVE A P COWARD REPORT AND A PROJECT CHANGE ORDER. I'M GONNA LET

YOU PROCEED WITH THOSE. >> ABBOTT REPORT FOR JULY 31, 2022. PAGE 4 AT PAGE 5 SHOWS YOUR BOXES FOR ALL YOUR FUNDS.

WHEREABOUTS WERE EXPECTED TO BE FOR THIS COMING YEAR 29TH OF JULY AT 2 MONTHS LEFT FOR THE END OF THE YEAR. AS YOU GO TO PAGE 10, PAGE 10 IS WHERE WE HOLD OUR GROUP HEALTH INSURANCE. THAT'S HER HEALTH INSURANCE FUND. THE FUND BALANCE IS 2.5 MILLION BECAUSE WE RECEIVED THE 1.7 REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE ARPA FUNDS WE HAD FOR OLD CLAIMS. THAT'S A VERY PROMISING NUMBER. AS YOU REMEMBER DURING SEPTEMBER WE WITHHELD ONE PAYMENT OF A PREMIUM PAY. SO THE NUMBERS ARE ABOUT WHERE WE EXPECTED THEM TO BE. AS WE GO THROUGH OUR REVENUE ON PAGE 16. WE SEE FOR THIS PARTICULAR. OF TIME WE COLLECTED 92.9 PERCENT OF THE COMPARED 97.9 IS PROPERTY TAX. IT'S ABOUT WHERE WE EXPECTED MOST OF THEM TO BE.

AT THE END OF THE YEAR WILL BE CLOSE TO 98 TO 99 PERCENT OF REVENUE COLLECTION WHICH IS VERY PROMISING. LET ME GO THROUGH OUR BUDGET PROCESS LEAVE IT OR NOT FOR THIS PARTICULAR FUNCTION THERE WAS ONLY ONE DEPARTMENT THAT WAS OVER BUDGET AND THAT'S ON PAGE 39. THAT'S THE MAGISTRATE COURT. THE ONLY REASON WHY THERE OVER BUDGET AGAIN IN THE MIDDLE OF FISCAL YEAR WE TRANSFERRED SALARIES TO MAGISTRATE COURT FOR SOME OF THE STAFF AND THAT'S THE ONLY

REASON WHY THERE BELOW BUDGET. >> ONCE YOU DO THAT THEY WILL

BE FINE? >> YES. THERE ARE NO OTHER DEPARTMENT IS OVER BUDGET AT THIS TIME. WHICH IS VERY PROMISING. PAGE 61 IS VERY IMPORTANT. AS WE KNOW FOR JULY 31 WHERE 60.7 PERCENT OF THE YEAR REMAINING. RUN 26.7 OF THE BUDGET REMAINING. OR 10 PERCENT OVER BUDGET WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL HAVE A CONTINUATION OF THE YEAR AND WE HOPE TO HAVE OUR TOTAL BALANCES FOR OUR EXPENSIVE AROUND 89 TO 90 PERCENT. THAT'S WHAT WE BUDGETED FOR THAT'S WHERE WE EXPECT TO BE. ON PAGE 75 IT SHOWS YOU WHERE ALL OUR CAPITAL BUDGETS ARE. WE TRY TO BREAK DOWN FROM PRECINCT 1, 2, 3 AND 4. OUR MAJOR FUNDS WE ALWAYS GO TO IS THE LAST PAGE ON PAGE 80.

THESE ARE WHERE OUR PENDING FUND BALANCES FOR THE COUNTY PROJECTS REMAIN. THESE FUNDS HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED BUT ARE STILL PENDING. HAVE SOME OVER SEALS THAT WE LIKE TO TRY TO GET DONE. IF WE CAN USE OF THESE OLDER SEAL FUNDS THAT WE JUST A PERFORATED THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO TRY TO GET THOSE USED UP AND FUNDED. THAT'S A MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE PERIOD OF JULY 31ST 2022. FOR YOUR ACCEPTANCE

AND APPROVAL. >> THANK YOU. IS OUR MOTION TO APPROVE? I WILL SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING HI. NOW WE HAVE THE PICARD REPORT FOR JULY 2022.

DALE? >> REPORT FOR JULY 28. FOR THE TENEMENT. WE SPENT 3 POINT 6 PLANE DOLLARS SHOWN ON PAGE 5.

GO TO THE PROCESS OF EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS IN EACH OF THE REQUEST WE SHOW. TOWARDS THE BACK WE WANT TO BREAK DOWN THE BEST OF HOW MANY PERIODS ARE DONE FOR FOOD WE MAKE SURE WE ATTACH EVERY RECEIPT THAT SHOWS ANY FOOD OR MILK AS THE COURT REQUESTED. I BELIEVE IT WAS FOR $2227 AT THIS PERIOD OF TIME. IT SHOWS YOU WHAT THE DEPARTMENT WAS FOR AND WHAT THE TRANSACTION WAS FOR AND WE HAVE THE RECEIPTS FOR EACH OF THOSE.

I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE FOR THE EXPENSE REPORT FOR JULY 28, 2022.

>> THANK YOU THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS REPORT? ALL RIGHT. SO MOTION TO APPROVE THE P CARD REPORT FOR JULY

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2022? >> SO MOVED.

>> IS THERE A SECOND? I WILL SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR

[9. Discuss and consider allocating American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funding through December 2024 for the ARPA Manager position.]

SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> THE LAST ITEM IS OUR BUDGET CHANGE ORDER FOR CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDS. A LOT OF THESE ARE CLEANING UP SOME FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND ARE MOVING THE TRANSFERS TO OTHER PONDS. WE SEE WE HAVE ALL OF OUR SEALS ON THERE FROM 2015. YOU WILL SEE THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT WE ARE MOVING MONEY TO CAPITAL PERMIT FUNDS FOR COASTAL PARKS MASTER PLAN. DOES IT MEANTO GET TO SPEND THOSE FUNDS. THEY HAVE TO BE ALLOCATED. THOSE ARE TRANSFERRED FROM FUNDS THAT WERE CLOSED OUT FROM THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY STATION THAT WAS THERE. THAT WAS ON PAGE ONE OF YOUR 1921 2016 SEALS. THIS IS CAPITAL A PURPOSE FOR COASTAL PARKS MANAGEMENT. MOST OF THE OTHER STUFF ARE DESCRIPTIVE. THE LARGEST ONE IS ON 2019 NCOS.

MOST OF THOSE ARE CLOSED OUT FUNDS. WHICH IS REALLOCATING THE FUNDS TO DO THIS IN 19 SEALS. IF 775 71 THAT'S BEEN ALLOCATED. THAT COULD BE ALLOCATED BASED ON THE PROJECTS THAT WERE ALLOWED IN THE 2019 SEALS. AS WE SEE THE 2021 SEALS WERE MOVING MONEY AROUND FOR BALLPARK AND WERE CLOSING OUT OTHER FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN ANALYZED. I'M SPITTING BUDGET CHANGE ORDER FOR PROJECTS NUMBER 113 FOR YOUR ACCEPTANCE APPROVAL. I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY

HAVE. >> YES, SIR?

>> SINCE WE DIDN'T DO THAT TODAY WOULD YOU DEAL?

>> WE HAVE IT AS ONE ITEM THAT SAYS COASTAL PARKS MASTER PLAN AS AN ALLOCATED PARK. WITH THE COURT APPROVES THE FUNCTIONS ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COURT AS WELL AS THE PARKS BOARD. WE TRANSFER A PORTION OF IT AND TRANSFER TO THE PROJECT HE WILL

APPROVE. >> IT'S ON THIS REPORT IS A CAPITAL PROJECT. SO HOW DO WE APPROVE THE CAPITAL PROJECT? I

DO WANT TO KNOW ?. >> WHICH IS SETTING ASIDE FUNDS FOR AN ALLOCATED PORTION OF IT. IF WE COULD EXCLUDE THAT FROM THE LIST AND MOVE THAT BACK TO WHERE IT WAS AT. AND NOT TAKE THAT ACTION ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM OR CONSIDER THAT AS CAPITAL PARK MASTERED PARK ALLOCATED PLANS UNTIL THE COURT HAS A PLAN TO MAKE THE DECISION ON WHAT TO DO.

>> I THINK IT'S BETTER TO PUT IT BACK WHERE IT WAS. TELL ME

WHERE IT CAME FROM? >> YOU WILL SEE WE HAD THE 2 THAT ARE NEGATIVE WAS A COURTHOUSE SECURITY STATION WE BUDGETED FUNDS FOR THAT I BELIEVE WE NO LONGER NEED THOSE FUNCTIONS FOR. THAT 213 COULD GO BACK TO THERE.

>> LET ME HELP CLARIFY COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. THOSE ARE FROM OLD CEOS THAT I ALLOCATED TO COURTHOUSE SECURITY. WE'VE USED THOSE DOLLARS AND THESE ARE DOLLARS THAT WE ARE NOW REALLOCATING THROUGH MY OLD CEOS THAT NEED TO GET SPENT PER IRS CODE. . LOOK FORR WE CAN MOVE DOLLARS TO WHERE THEY NEED TO. THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT PLANAN IS ABSOLUTELY KEY. . HOPE NEXT WEEK IT WILL GET ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEEDD BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS THAT WITHOUT T AN UPDATED COASTAL MANAGEMENT YOU CANNOT BRING ANY FEDERAL OR

STATE GRANTS TO YOUR COASTAL PARKS. >> MY QUESTION IS ?.

>> THOSE ARE MY DOLLARS. >> I REALLOCATED.

>> THE COURT PORTED FOR COURTHOUSE SECURITY HICH, IF ANYBODY DOESN'T HINK WE NEED LOTS OF MONEY FOR COURTHOUSE

SECURITY. >> COMMISSIONER I'VE ALREADY GIVEN ALL THE DOLLARS. I DID THAT WITH ALL MY DOLLARS AND I'VE GIVEN IT TO COURTHOUSE SECURITY. THESE ARE DOLLARS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SPENT. I HAVE 21S. IF THESE DOLLARS THAT ARE OLD TO NOT GET SPENT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PENDING.

I'M NOT COULD HAPPEN IRS SITUATION. IN FACT ALL OF US NEED TO SPEND, I'VE SAID THIS MULTIPLE TIMES. WE NEED TO SPEND OUR OLD CEOS WITHIN 3 YEARS.

>> MINOR ALL GONE. ALL I HAVE IS 21. I'M SAYING IF I WAS ALLOCATED TOWARD COURTHOUSE SECURITY.

>> THAT WAS BEFORE CONSTITUTIONAL KERRY CAME OUT.

ONCE CONSTITUTIONAL CARRIED WAS PASSED BY THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION COMMISSIONER, THEMS NO MORNING NEED TO PUT THIS TYPES OF SECURITY DEVICES ACCORDING TO OUR SHERIFF THAT I HAD ORIGINALLY THOUGHT WE WOULD NEED. I'D SUPPLIED DOLLARS 4.

THOSE WITH A BENT LOW PAWN AND LEPER. THOSE WERE ACTUAL SECURITY DEVICES HE WOULD GO THROUGH AND AFTER THE LAW

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CHANGED IT WAS THE OPINION OF OUR SHERIFF WHO MANAGES COURTHOUSE SECURITY THAT WE WOULD NO LONGER NEED THOSE STATIONS. THOSE DOLLARS WERE EARMARKED FOR THE STATIONS WE NO LONGER NEED BECAUSE THE LAW CHANGED AND NOW ANYBODY CAN BRING A GUN INTO THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE COURTHOUSE. SO THAT IS WHY I BELIEVE THAT THE DOLLARS SHOULD BE BEST ALLOCATED OTHER IMPORTANT RESOURCES THAT WE NEED. I DON'T T EVER TELL ANOTHER COMMISSIONER HOW TO REALLOCATE THEIR UNDS. IRONICALLY THESE FUNDS ARE FOR YOUR OWN PRECINCT

FOR COASTAL PARKS. >> JUDGE, I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE FOR. HER TAKING THEM FROM COURTHOUSE SECURITY. I'M GOING TO ASK ? EXPERTS DATE MINTS THAT HAVE NO LONGER APPLICABLE

AT HE AND THE LAW. >> I'VE HEARD YOU 3 TIMES.

YOU'VE INTERRUPTED ME 3 TIMES. WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THIS IS I'D BE WILLING TO PUT MORE COURTHOUSE SECURITY. I THINK WE ARE STILL VERY, NOT WHERE WE NEED TO BE OF THE CAT HAVE THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT'S NOT POSTED. I WOULD RATHER ADD TO COURTHOUSE SECURITY BECAUSE I THANK YOU'RE SUPER LACKING STILL. I DON'T REMEMBER, I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK. I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS FOR STATIONS. I THOUGHT IT WAS FOR

HER HOUSE SECURITY. >> WE SPENT ALL OF MY DOLLARS FOR THAT. THAT'S HOW YOU HAVE THE NEW BADGES OF THE KIOSKS.

>> I DON'T REMEMBER IT BEING COMPLETELY ALLOCATED. I THOUGHT YOU ALLOCATED TOWARDS, AND IF I REMEMBER RIGHT I THOUGHT YOU ALLOCATED TOWARDS COURTHOUSE SECURITY IN GENERAL.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS, WE ARE SUPER FAR BEHIND MY OPINION.

WAY MILES BEHIND COURTHOUSE SECURITY IN THIS COURTHOUSE.

BEFORE YOU TAKE MONEY FROM THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY THAT IS ALREADY ALLOCATED I WAS GONNA LOOK AT PUTTING SOME TOWARDS, SOME OF MINE TOWARDS COURTHOUSE SECURITY TO ADD TO THE FUNDS THAT YOU HAVE AND BEEF UP OUR COURTHOUSE SECURITY. I DON'T THINK WERE ANYWHERE NEAR WHERE WE OUGHT TO BE. THAT'S WHAT I SAID EARLIER. I WAS TOLD THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY WERE FROM.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A GENERAL ALLOCATION TOWARDS COURTHOUSE SECURITY. I WAS TRYING TO SAY, I THINK THAT'S GREAT THAT YOU DID THAT AND I WANTED TO ADD TO IT SOME OF MINE. I THINK THERE'S ALL KINDS OF AREAS, MAYBE NOT STATIONS.

>> THE ONLY THING WE ARE SUBTRACTED COMMISSIONER AS I SAID ALL THE DOLLARS THAT I PUT IN ALMOST TOTAL LIKE, TERESA CAN TELL YOU. IT WAS A MOST LIKE $800,000.

>> YES, ABOUT $800,000. >> LET'S PUT SOME MORE IN.

>> WE WILL PUT THAT ON AN AGENDA ITEM NEXT TIME SHE COULD ADD TO THE FACT THAT I ALREADY PUT 100. THE POINT IS THE BODY FOR THE STATIONS IS WHAT WE ARE TAKEN OUT. JUST SO YOU KNOW COMMISSIONER I CAN EASILY CHANGE IT TO 21 CEOS AND NOT TAKE ANY OUT FROM THE OLD ONES. THE PROBLEM IS, I CAN DO THAT AND SPEND THE MONEY THAT NEEDS TO BE SENT PER OUR IRS REGULATIONS. THE 16TH NEED TO BE SPENT. THERE'S A NEED FOR COURTHOUSE SECURITY I HAVE THE 21S. BUT THE 16S ARE THE ONES.

THAT'S THE ISSUE. >> WE TABLE THE OTHER ONE SO THAT'S FINE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING HISTORY ON. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS AN EARLIER I WAS TOLD NO. I WAS JUST GOING BACK TO THE HISTORY. I WOULD SUGGEST DALE DOES REPORT TO AMEND ACCURATELY WHERE WE ARE AND WE WILL BRING IT BACK. WHEN WE BRING BACK AND IF I NEED TO PUT A COURTHOUSE SECURITY ITEM ON AND SEE WHERE EVERYONE IS ON THAT ONE. I LIKE TO KNOW, THAT WAS THE QUESTION OF HIS GOOD HEALTH. DOES ARPA FUNDS COVER COURTHOUSE SECURITY. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT IF IT DOES. SEE IF YOU CAN CHECK. THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING. I WANT TO TAKE MONEY FROM COURTHOUSE SECURITY. AND I'M GREAT IF YOU WANT TO TAKE SOME FOR YOUR 21'S JUDGE. BEFORE WE TAKE MONEY FROM COURTHOUSE SECURITY,

>> YOU MIGHT WANT TO TALK TO THE SHERIFF AND THE COURTHOUSE COMMITTEE. ALL I'M DOING YOU IS TELLING YOU TO USE THE DOLLARS THAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR AND THESE WERE EXTRAS. IF THERE IS A GREATER NEED I HAVE OTHERS TO PUT IN. GIVEN I WAS ONLY ONE TO PUT IN FOR COURTHOUSE SECURITY. I COULD TELL YOU I'M HUNDRED PERCENT FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY SEEING AS HOW WE HAVE DONE ON III FLOOR.

HAVING SAID THAT A PARTY TOLD YOU THAT THE 21S ARE THE ONES

WE HAVE. >> I GOT IT.

>> WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS BLOCKING THE ALLOCATION.

>> NO, NO. THIS IS OUR REPORT. I JUST ASKED DALE TO PUT THE REPORT REFLECTED ACCURATELY. THAT WAS IT. I WASN'T TRYING TO GET INTO A DISCUSSION. I WAS GONNA PUT IT ON AN AGENDA ITEM. ALL OF US GONNA DO IS ASK FOR BACKGROUND.

>> THERE'S 2 CHOICES THAT DALE HAS GIVEN YOU.

>> I THOUGHT IS ONE MEMBER OF THE COURT.

>> WHAT IS IT EXACTLY YOU SEEM TO CONTROL THE OTHER 2?

>> I'M NOT GONNA RESPOND TO YOU.

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>> YOU'RE JUST BLAH, BLAH, BLAH TODAY.

>> WEARS A LADY ABOUT DISRESPECT NOW?

>> DALE, DALE. THE POINT IS THERE TO CHOICES. YOU GIVEN US THE 2 CHOICES. WHAT I'M UPSET ABOUT IS ALLOCATION CAN HOLD UNTIL WE MAKE A DECISION. BUT, THE CEOS, IN FACT TERESA IS ON TOO. ALLOCATION I WAS TRYING TO TRANSFER IS JUST ON A HOLDING PATTERN. IS THERE ANY ADVANTAGE OR DISADVANTAGE TO DOING THAT? THE COURT HAS MADE THE TRANSFER YET. ALL WERE ASKING IS THAT MY ALLOCATION THAT BELONGS TO THE COUNTY JUDGE BE PLACED IN THE AREA WHERE I BELIEVE I NEED TO HAVE WHICH IS IN NOT HOLDING PATTERN. WHERE DID YOU CALL

THAT SO I CAN KNOW. >> THESE ARE ALLOCATIONS OF THE FUNDS TO O USE. WE'VE GIVEN THE DEPARTMENTOR THE HE AREA OF THE FUNDS AND WERE TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM COURTHOUSE SECURITY TO THE PARKS. ABOUT WAS ADVISED TO MY STAFF. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE PROJECTING. IT'S UP TO THE COURT IF YOU WANT TO ACCEPT THIS AND IT CAN BE CHANGED IN

ANY WAY. >> MY WISH IS SINCE IT'S MY ITEM AND IT'S YOUR CHANGE ORDER. SINCE WERE HOLDING ON IT JUST HOLD ON IT.

DON'T MAKE THE CHANGE. WE HAVE NOT MADE THE CHANGE IN THE ALLOCATION YET. MY CONCERN IS THAT WE NEED YOU TO WEIGH IN ON THIS. IS THAT THESE OLDER MONIES NEED TO BE SPENT. IN OTHER WORDS, EITHER A GHOST COURTHOUSE SECURITY OR IN THIS CASE, THIS MEANT ZERO REQUEST. NONE WHATSOEVER. I NEED YOU TO BE ABLE TO TELL THIS COURT WITH AUTHORITY AND CONFIDENCE THAT THESE OLD CEOS ARE IN DANGER BECAUSE THAT IS A 16 AND IT'S 22 NOW LOOKS JUDGE, WE FOR THAT SO MANY TIMES. YOU COULD ALLOCATE THAT. YOU JUST SAID YOU HAD 21S. YOU CAN SPEND IT ON SOME SECURITY ON III FLOOR AND I WOULD PARTICIPATE WITH

YOU. >> IS NOT ALLOWED UNDER THE LAW

ACCORDING TO OUR SHERIFF. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. WE COULD PUT IT ON NEXT WEEK AND SPEND IT ON THESE TALK ABOUT THE CIP AND WHEN I CAN GET TO THAT. THAT'S NOT URGENT IS COURTHOUSE SECURITY IS SUPER URGENT.

>> CARVE OUT, YOU'RE HYSTERICAL.

>> IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN, WE HAVE TO KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE.

>> I WANT TO ORDER THE SECOND AMENDMENT. SO DALE, LET'S DO THIS. CARVE THAT OUT. YOU HAVE OTHER PIECES OF THE CHANGE

ORDER, CORRECT? >> YES, WE CAN LEAVE THIS AS IS. IF WE NEED TO TRANSFER TO SECURITY WE CAN OR INITIATED AS

COASTAL PARK MANAGEMENT. >> FINE. WE WANT THE MOTION TO APPROVE EVERYTHING BUT THOSE DOLLARS. ALL RIGHT? THAT'S MY

MOTION. >> THEN THERE'S A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I ALL RIGHT. ALL IGHT, WE'VE GOT DOUBLE CHECKING HERE. CAN WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT THIS TIME. WE'VE GOT LOTS OF ITEMS TO TAKE UP.

I'M GOING TO SUGGEST HAT, THERE'S A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE WE WILL TRY TO HANDLE THEM ACCORDINGLY. AT THIS TIME I'M GIVING THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO ALERT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. WAIT A SECOND. A DAY WERE GOING TO

TABLE 1 CONSENT ITEM. >> CORRECT ORGAN A TABLE UNDER

I. >> A DAY HAS PLEDGED TO BRING

BACK WITH THE INFORMATION. >> SO MOVED. ED.

>> AND THERE'S A SECOND AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING HI. . NOW I WILL GIVE THE MAGIC LANGUAGE THAT WERE

[4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.]

ELECTED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO OPEN MEETINGS OF CHAPTER 551 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE AND UNDER BURNS CODES. ALL OF THE EXCEPTIONS THAT WE HAVE THESE ITEMS ARE LISTED UNDER THE VERNON'S CODES. WE NEVER REALLY SAILED OUT. THAT'S HOW IT GOES INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW THAT. THOSE SECTIONS THAT ARE ARE BETWEEN 071, 72, 073, 074, 0745, 076, 08 6 087 UPON COMPLETION WE WILL COME BACK TO OPEN SESSION AND TAKE ACTION. WE WILL ASK EVERYONE THAT'S NOT NEEDED HERE AT THIS TIME TO BOTH CLEAR THE WAITING ROOM

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ONLINE AND CLEARED THE COURTROOM. WE WILL TAKE UP THE

>> LET ME GAVEL IS IN. IT'S A TIME OF 605. WE HAVE SEVERAL MATTERS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN OUT. THE MAY CALL UPON COMMISSIONER MODEST FIRST. IT'S ITEM NUMBER C. IT'S CASE NUMBER 22 CV 01266. BUT THERE'D BE A MOTION REGARDING

THIS ISSUANCE OF SETTLEMENT? >> YES JUDGE MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE A COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND DIRECT AUDITOR TO ISSUE A SETTLEMENT CHECK.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> IN THE AMOUNT OF $30,000.

>> IS THAT SUPPOSED TO COME BACK FOR ANOTHER BOAT BEFORE

IT'S ISSUED? NO. >> IT WILL BE BE, YOUR MOTION IS DIRECTED AUDITOR TO PAY. AND THE JUDGE IS TO SIGN THE

SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. >> I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.

I WILL ASK IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION OR ACTION? HOPEFULLY THAT WAS GOOD AND CLEAR. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR

SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. OPPOSED, SAME TIME. >> .OTHER CASES TO 2 CB 800157 THOMAS CAMACHO VERSUS NUECES COUNTY. THAT I

LOOK TO COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. >> MAKE A MOTION WE AUTHORIZE KEN ARCHER TO ISSUE A SETTLEMENT CHECK SIGNED BY THE COUNTY JUDGE. THE AMOUNT WOULD BE $50,000.

>> ALL RIGHT, HE ALSO DIRECTED THE AUDITOR TO ISSUE THAT CHECK? I WILL SECOND THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE, SAME TIME. THEN ON ITEM E REGARDING 2 TO ? CV ? 00112 GUY WILLIAMS VERSUS JOYCE'S COUNTY. COMMISSIONER

CHESNEY IS OUR RATIFICATION? >> JUDGE I WOULD MOVE FORWARD ?

? TO ?. >> SECOND PERIOD. NONE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THEN ITEM F IS REGARDING FINAL PAYMENT TO ABM BUILDING SERVICES FOR HAZEL 'S MOORPARK AND ISSUANCE OF A SETTLEMENT CHECK WITHIN 7 DAYS. I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER CHESSIE YOU MIGHT HAVE A MOTION HERE.

>> JUDGE I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE OF A SETTLEMENT CHECK FOR ALL FULL AND FINAL RESOLVED THIS MATTER IN THE MATTER OF $172,405.98. FOR THE AUDITOR TO WRITE THE CHECK IN THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN IT AND THE ATTORNEY TO REVIEW THE RELEASE REGARDING THIS.

>> TO ADD, WITHIN 7 DAYS. THAT'S A REQUIREMENT.

>> OKAY, CAN THAT BE DONE IN 7 DAYS? WE HAVE A SETTLEMENT

AGREEMENT? OKAY 7 DAYS. >> 'S REQUIREMENT.

>> THAT IS A PART OF THE NEGOTIATION.

>> YOU CAN DO A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND DO EVERYTHING.

>> YES. >> IN 7 DAYS.

>> IS THERE A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.. NO.

>> OKAYOKAY I'M LOOKING, ITEM G WAS INFORMATION ONLY, CORRECT

JENNY? >> ITEM G.

>> YES, JUST INFORMATIONALLY. AT MH, THAT'S COMMISSIONER

MODEST. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO DENY THE CLAIM MADE BY ROBERT N.

>> OKAY I WILL SECOND THAT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS CASE? HEARING NONE ALL SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

ON ITEMS RELATING TO ISSUES REGARDING EMPLOYEES ES OUTSIDE, OUTSIDE AGENCIES. IT WAS JUST A DIRECTIVE FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO BRING BACK OR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AT THIS TIME. NOT REALLY SURE WE NEED A MOTION. . THAT SUFFICES FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WE CAN MOVE ON. ALL RIGHT. ALSO ON ITEM A, WE ARE GOING TO DIRECT THE COURT MANAGER TO BRING US BACK

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INFORMATION AND THE POTENTIAL AGENDA ITEM IF NECESSARY JUST NEXT TIME WHICH WILL BE, I'M SORRY, OCTOBER 19. OKAY.

ALSO, ON THE REGULAR AGENDA THERE WERE SOME OTHER ITEMS THAT WE TOOK UP AN EXECUTIVE BUT THEY WERE ALL INFORMATION ONLY AT THIS TIME. NO ACTION AT THIS TIME. I'M JUST TRIPLE CHECKING. ALL GOOD? CARA, HOW DO WE LOOK?

[23. Discuss and consider taking action on the legal (engagement) services of Baker Wotring LLP regarding Padre Balli Park and related matters.]

>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON 23. THAT WE TERMINATE THE

SERVICES. >> AS HE'S CONCLUDED HIS

SERVICES. >> IS A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. OKAY. GREAT. ANYTHING ELSE, KAREN? I THINK WE LOOK PRETTY GOOD NOW. HOW ABOUT ADJOURNMENTS AND MEMORY? COMMISSIONER STEPHANIE ADJOURNMENTS AND MEMORY AT THIS TIME? HEARING NO ADJOURNMENTS AND MEMORY? DO STAND ADJOURNED

AND THE RECORD WILL REFLECT ?. >> JUDGE I WANT. I WANT TO GIVE THE CONDOLENCES OF ? ?. HE PASSED AWAY LAST WEEKEND. MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY. HIS FUNERAL WILL BE THIS WEEKEND.

>> WE WILL ECHO THE CONDOLENCES AS A COURT TO THE MOONEY'S FAMILY AT THIS TIME.

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