F. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.

[F. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]

WE WILL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. IT IS ITEM F.

WHAT I HAVE DONE IS TAKEN A SURVEY HERE.

I HAVE QUITE A FEW ITEMS. I WILL MAKE THE INTRODUCTION BY SAYING IF YOU WERE ONLINE, WE WILL GET TO YOU.

JUST RAISE YOUR ICON OF THE HAND.

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CONNIE ACTUALLY WILL JUST CALL NEW THE ORDER THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE. BUT FIRST, I HAVE GOT SEVERAL FOLKS THAT ARE ON ONE PARTICULAR ITEM.

BUT YOU DO HAVE THE OPTION TO GO -- I MEAN TO MAKE YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT NOW AS OPPOSED TO LATER IN THE PROGRAM.

SO THANK YOU. I DO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU NEIL AND GREG NATOWSKI. I GOT YOU HERE AND RYAN TURNER.

WE ARE KEEPING NOTES. OUR PASTOR WHO DELIVERED INVOCATION DOES HAVE TO LEAVE. SO IF -- CHRIS, IF YOU WOULDN'T MINDS YIELDING TO THE PASTOR, I WILL CALL YOU SECOND.

YOU WERE FIRST. DID PASTOR LEAVE ALREADY? OH, NO, HERE YOU ARE. PLEASE.

PASTOR, YES, SIR. SORRY, A DIFFERENT PASTOR, BUT

GO AHEAD. >> I AM CONFUSED BECAUSE TWO

DAVID MOORS. >> I WAS LITTLE CONFUSED.

>> BUT I WANT TO SPEAK FOR BROKEN CHAINS AND ROBERT REED AND THE WORK THEY DO SEEKING TO GET OFF OF LIFESTYLE ADDICTION ISSUES. BROKEN CHAINS GIVES A PLACE OF HOPE FOR THOSE WHO WANT A LIFE CHANGE.

A PLACE OF STABILITY AND SECURITY FOR THEM AS THEY ARE STARTING TO TAKE THEIR FIRST STEPS BACK INTO A PRODUCTIVE LIFESTYLE. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT I THINK SHERIFF HOOPER WILL BE IN FAVOR OF THIS BECAUSE WILL KEEP THE JAILS EMPTY. A LOT OF THESE GUYS -- I HAVE SPOKEN BEFORE -- SOME TOUGH CHARACTERS THERE.

NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT SOME REALLY TOUGH CHARACTERS AND WE WOULD WANT ROBERT TO HAVE HIS FINGERPRINTS ALL OVER THESE INDIVIDUALS SO THEY CAN LEAD PRODUCTIVE AND SUCCESSFUL LIVES.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I SHOULD HAVE ANNOUNCED A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING.

IF YOU HAVE BEEN WITH US IN PUBLIC COMMENT.

NORMALLY WE HAVE A DIGITAL CLOCK.

AND ASK FOR IT TO BE PLACED UP. IT IS A THREE-MINUTE CLOCK.

AT THIS TIME DURING PUBLIC COMMENT WE DON'T ENGAGE BY ANSWERING YOU, BUT SOMETIMES AS I SAID IF PURR HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM, YOU WILL GET THE DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM WHEN IT IS CALLED. WITH THAT IN MIND, I WILL CALL

CHRISTOPHER GALE. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.

FIRST OF ALL, ANYTHING DEALING WITH BROKEN CHAINS.

I SUPPORT ANY EFFORTS. A GREAT PROGRAM.

I DIDN'T KNOW IT WOULD BE DISCUSSED TODAY.

SECONDLY, WHAT A GREAT DAY FOR ME TO BE HERE.

NORMALLY IT IS REGARDING SOMETIMES THE MUNDANE AND SOMETIMES WE END UP FIGHTING OVER THINGS BUT TO HEAR THESE ACCOLADES OF -- ALL THESE BASEBALL PLAYERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, IT IS JUST TREMENDOUS. AND YOU KNOW ALSO THE EFFORTS FOR THE CHILDREN THAT ARE PASSING.

SO THIS IS A GOOD DAY TO BE HERE.

I AM GOING TO ADD A LITTLE BIT TO THAT, AND IT IS GOING TO BE GOOD. AS YOU WELL KNOW, I HAVE OPINION IN FOR OF JUAN PIMENTAL FOR A WHILE.

THERE WAS CONCERN AT SOME POINT OF HIS HOME -- HIS PARENTS' HOME AND SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. I WANT TO KNOW THERE WAS AN INVESTIGATION DONE. AND WE ARE HAPPY FOR THAT.

AND THE RESULTS OF THE INVESTIGATION LED THERE IS NO IMPRO IMPROPRIETY.

AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, WE ARE PUT TO REST.

I AM NEVER GOING TO USE MY THREE MINUTES, BUT ON SUPPORT OF HIM, YOU KNOW, HE LOVES HIS JOB. HE LOVES WORKING FOR THIS ACCOUNT FOR THE YEARS THAT HE HAS.

HE LOOKS FORWARD TO WORKING HERE THE REST -- I WON'T SAY HIS LIFE, BUT UNTIL HIS RETIREMENT. AND HE JUST REALLY APPRECIATES THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN A CONCERN COMES UP AS TO NOT TAKING A KNEE-JERK REACTION AND WAIT FOR IT TO BE HANDLED.

EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE A-OKAY. AGAIN, TO JUMP BACK TO, WHAT A GREAT DAY TO BE HERE FULL OF EMOTION AND HEARTFELT HOPE.

I APPRECIATE BEING HERE. I WON'T TAKE UP ANY MORE OF Y'ALL'S TIME. I KNOW YOU HAVE MANY THINGS TO DO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT PERSON IS JUAN PIMENTAL. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS

AND JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: GOOD MORNING.

>> A FEW MONTHS AGO I WAS FALSELY ACCUSED OF WRONGDOING BY A MEMBER OF THIS COURT THAT INVOLVED COUNTY ROADWORK.

THE WORK THAT WAS AUTHORIZED BY A PREVIOUS COMMISSIONER AND FOLLOWED UP BY THE AUTHORIZATION BY THE CURRENT COMMISSIONER FOR THE PRECINCT. BEFORE ANY WORK WAS DONE TO THAT ROAD, I MADE SURE TO NOTIFY THE PREVIOUS COMMISSIONER THAT MY FATHER OWNED THE PROPERTY IN THAT AREA.

THE ROADWORK RESULTED IN THE COUNTY CREWMEMBERS ACCIDENTALLY

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DAMAGING A MAILBOX THAT BELONGED TO MY FATHER.

AS A RESULT OF THIS INCIDENT, FALSE ACCUSATIONS WERE PLACED AGAINST ME, WHICH NOT ONLY EFFECTED ME BUT MY FAMILY TOO.

AND EVEN MY EMPLOYEES. I WAS FALSELY ACCUSED OF MISUSING COUNTY EQUIPMENT, MONIES, PERSONNEL AND HAD PRIOR AUTHORIZATION WHEN I HAD PRIOR AUTHORIZATION TO HAVE IS THE COUNTY'S CREWS DO THE WORK ON THIS ROAD.

IN COMMISSIONERS COURT, SEVERAL HOURS WERE WASTED DETAILING FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME. ALSO, THE TEXAS RANGERS WERE CALLED TO INVESTIGATE ME. THE INVESTIGATION WAS SUBMITTED TO THE NUECES COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

IT TOOK NINE MONTHS LATER FOR THE CASE TO BE PRESENTED TO THE GRAND JURY. AND THERE WERE NO FINDS OF ANY WRONGDOINGS. I HAVE BEEN CLEARED BY THE TEXAS RANGERS, THE NUECES COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND A GRAND JURY. MY DAD IS 84 YEARS OLD AND IS A RETIREE FROM THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI AFTER WORKING 35 YEARS.

HE ALSO WORKED FOR ABM, THE COMPANY THAT BOUGHT OUT THE GRAIN ELEVATE FROM THE PORT AND RETIRED FROM ADM.

WORKING FOR THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI GRAIN, THERE WAS AN EXPLOSION THAT CAUSED MY FATHER MUCH SUFFERING WHERE HE SPENT ONE YEAR IN THE BURN UNIT. AFTER REHABILITATION, HE WENT BACK TO WORK FOR THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI FOR ANOTHER 20 YEARS. AFTER THESE FALSE ACCUSATIONS WERE BROUGHT AGAINST ME, MY DAD HAD TO -- HAD OPEN-HEART SURGERY. IT HAS SICKENED ME TO HAVE BROUGHT MY DAD INTO THIS WHOLE SCHEME BY FALSELY ACCUSING HIM OF COLLABORATING WITH ME TO STEAL FROM THE COUNTY.

AFTER ALL THE HARD WORK, DEDICATION AND PAIN AND SUFFERING THAT HE HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH IN HIS LIFE.

THANK GOD THAT HE IS DOING FINE. BUT TO THIS DAY, MY DAD WORRIES ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED -- WHAT HAS BEEN DONE TO ME IN THIS COURT.

ME AND MY WHOLE FAMILY NAMES HAVE BEEN TARNISHED BY SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE SIMPLY BEEN INVOLVED IN A PROPER WAY.

I WANT TO THANK THE PREVIOUS COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER VAUGHN FOR COMING TO EXPLAIN TO COMMISSIONERS COURT SHE HAD TOLD ME TO PERFORM THIS WORK AND FOR ME NOT TO WORRY ABOUT MY FAMILY BEING PART OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS LIVING IN THE AREA BEFORE BECAUSE THEY ALSO PAY TAXES. I WANT TO CLOSE MY STATEMENT BY SAYING THAT BEFORE I GO TO SLEEP -- AND THIS IS TRUE -- I PRAY AND ASK GOD THAT WHEN I PASS ON, THAT HE USES MY SOUL TO PROTECT AGAINST EVIL. WELL, WHEN I'M HERE ON EARTH, I ASK GOD TO GUIDE ME AND PROTECT ME FROM EVIL AS WELL.

GOD CONTINUES TO ANSWER MY PRAYERS BECAUSE FOR THE PAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS, I HAVE BEEN BATTLING AGAINST EVIL.

AND I HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT IN 2 CHRONICLES 20:15, IT SAYS IN THE BIBLE FOR THE BATTLE IS NOT MINE THAT IS GOD'S.

AND I AM RELYING ON GOD TO HELP ME FIGHT MY BATTLES.

GOD ALWAYS WINS AND GOD ALWAYS PREVAILS.

THANK YOU [APPLAUSE]

>>JUDGE CANALES: NEXT WE WILL HEAR FROM YVETTE PIMENTAL.

FOLLOWED BY JERRY GARCIA. AND WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IS GO SOME ONLINE, SOME HERE. SOME ONLINE.

IN THAT MANNER. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, JUDGE. MY NAME IS YVETTE PIMENTAL AND MY HUSBAND IS JUAN PIMENTAL. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT MY HUSBAND WHO WAS FALSELY ACCUSED OF A WRONGDOING THAT NOT ONLY AFFECTED HIM, BUT AFFECTED THE WHOLE ENTIRE FAMILY.

HE ALSO HAS HERE PRESENT IN THE COURTROOM SOME FAMILY MEMBERS AND SOME CO-WORKERS THAT ARE HERE TO SUPPORT HIM AS WELL.

HE ALSO HAS FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT ARE TUNING IN VIA INTERNET THAT ARE ALSO SUPPORTING HIM. A MEMBER OF THIS COURT JUMPED TO A FALSE CONCLUSION. AND WE ARE THE ONES WHO SUFFERED ANXIETY AND INJURY DUE TO MY HUSBAND'S REPUTATION.

THIS MEMBER OF THE COURT FALSELY ACCUSED MY HUSBAND OF USING HIS AUTHORITY TO ENGAGE IN DISHONEST BEHAVIOR.

IF THE PROOR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES HAVE BEEN FOLLOWED BY

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SIMPLY GOING TO THE HR DEPARTMENT, THE SITUATION WOULD HAVE BEEN RESOLVED WITHOUT MY HUSBAND HAVING TO DEFEND HIMSELF IN FRONT OF COMMISSIONERS COURT. AND WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY IF PROPER POLICY AND PROCEDURES HAVE BEEN FOLLOWED, WE WOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY WHICH RESULTED IN A FINANCIAL BURDEN. BECAUSE POLICY AND PROCEDURES WERE NOT FOLLOWED, THE TEXAS RANGERS WASTED THEIR TIME BY INVESTIGATING FALSE ALLEGATIONS. I HAVE THE NO BILL DOCUMENT FROM THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT THE GRAND JURY FOUND NO VIOLATION OF ANY LAW OCCURRED. NO VIOLATION OF ANY LAW EVER OCCURRED BY MY HUSBAND. HE HAS BEEN CLEARED OF ALL -- ANY AND ALL FALSE ALLEGATIONS. THE WHOLE SCHEME OF TRYING TO GET RID OF MY HUSBAND WAS JUST A WASTE OF TIME FOR THE TEXAS RANGERS, THE GRAND JURY, COMMISSIONERS COURT AND ULTIMATELY A WASTE OF TAXPAYER MONEY.

I HAVE KNOWN MY HUSBAND SINCE THE 7TH GRADE.

WE CELEBRATED OUR 26TH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. HE IS AN HONORABLE MAN.

KNOWS MY HUSBAND'S HEART. MORE IMPORTANTLY, GOD KNOWS THE TRUTH AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE MY HUSBAND'S BACK UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. I WILL CLOSE MY STATEMENT BY SAYING MY HUSBAND IS HERE FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

HIS -- SCIENCE IS CLEAN AND CLEAR AND HE CAN SLEEP WELL AT NIGHT BECAUSE HE KNOWS EVERY DAY THAT HE TRIES TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND HIS FAMILY AND WE NEVER DO ANYTHING TO RISK HIS CAREER THAT HE WORKED SO HARD FOR AND WILL NEVER PUT HIS FAMILY IN ANY TYPE OF SITUATION THAT IS WRONG FOR ANYTHING OR ANYONE. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: NEXT WE WILL HEAR FROM JERRY GARCIA.

>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, JUDGE.

I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT -- THERE WAS AN INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED ON COUNTY ROAD 52. IT IS ILLEGAL DRIVEWAY.

I HAVE BEEN IN THE COUNTY FOR 41 YEARS.

AND THIS HAS NEVER COME TO COURT.

THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR HAS ALWAYS TAKEN CARE OF THIS.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE TX DOT LAWS AND FOLLOW THEM AS WE FOLLOW TXDOT LAWS.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY.

THANK YOU. AND NOW I AM GOING TO JUST FOR THE SAKE OF EQUITY MOVE TO SOME ONLINE.

AND THEN I WILL MOVE BACK. THE WAY I SEE IT IS -- I AM GOING TO CALL IT IN ORDER. NEIL MCQUEEN.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: JUDGE, CAN YOU ADD ME TO THE PUBLIC

COMMENT, PLEASE. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES.

NEIL, IF YOU WILL JUST UNMUTE. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

NEIL MCQUEEN, 3214 STATE DRIVE. AND CO-CHAIR OF THE RIDERS.

I HAVE BEEN SURFING AT BOB HALL PIER.

I HAVE RIDDEN GREAT WAVES. WE ARE CONCERNED OF THE PIER WITH SINGLE PIER. WE ASK THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR ALL COST COMPARISON STUDY BEFORE WAITING ON THE PILING DESIGN. WE HEARD THAT A SURFING-ONLY PIER IF THE SINGLE PILING DESIGN IS CHOSEN.

LIKE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ATTEMPTED TO BUILD SURF SPOTS, THE LUBY SURF PIER HAD MEDIOCRE SAND BARS AND WAVES.

IN ORDER TO DO IT RIGHT IT TAKES A LOT OF MONEY.

WE WOULD RATHER NOT TAKE A GAMBLE THAT A SEPARATE PIER HAVE GOOD WAVES AND THIS BOB HALL PIER BE REBUILT LIKE BEFORE BECAUSE WE KNOW IT MADE GREAT WAVES.

SURFING IS PART OF OUR LIFESTYLE AND CULTURE.

CHECK OUT VISIT CORPUS CHRISTI'S WEB SITE AND THE CITY PARKS DEPARTMENT LOGO. ALSO MENTIONED ON THE NUECES COUNTY COASTAL PARKS WEB PAGE FOR PADRE BALLI PARK THAT SAYS THE PIER HAS FAVORABLE CONDITIONS FOR SURFING YEAR ROUND. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT MANY OF THE RESPONDERS OF THE SURVEY TO GET PEOPLE'S VIEWS OF THE NEXT PIER SAID THEY LIKE TO WATCH SURFERS FROM THE PIER.

LASTLY COME FROM THE STATE OF WAVES AT BOB HALL PIER, SURFERS

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HAVE PATRONIZED MICHAEL MAYS AND OTHER LOCAL BUSINESSES LAND DO SO WITH A TWO-PILING DESIGN. PLEASE ASSURE THAT BOB HALL PIER IS A MULTIUSE ATTRACTION THAT ACCOMMODATES FISHING, DINING AND SURFING. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, MR. MCQUEEN.

NOW I WILL TAKE -- I SAW HIM BUT I DON'T SEE HIM ANYMORE.

MR. RYAN TURNER. >> HELLO, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE CANALES. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE.

MY NAME IS RYAN TURNER. I AM THE VICE-CHAIR OF THE SURVIVOR FOUNDATION CHAPTER IN THE COASTAL BEND 618 PENNINGTON DRIVE. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT BOB HALL PIER AS WELL. I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ONE COLUMN VERSUS THE TWO-COLUMN PIER.

I BELIEVE THAT THE ONE-COLUMN PIER WILL NOT PRODUCE AS GOOD WAVES AS YOU HEARD FROM NEIL MCQUEEN WITH OVER A 60-YEAR HISTORY OF PRODUCING GOOD WAVES. ADDITIONALLY, I AM VERY CONCERNED OF THE ONE-COLUMN PIER BECAUSE I CANNOT FIND ONE ON THE WEST COAST OR EAST COAST IN AN OPEN OCEAN SETTING THAT IS A ONE-COLUMN PIER. I BELIEVE THIS DESIGN IS UNTESTED AND UNPROVEN AND UNPROVEN IN OPEN WATER OCEAN SETTING. I DON'T THINK THAT NUECES COUNTY SHOULD TAKE A CHANCE OF $28 MILLION GAMBLE ON BUILDING A PIER THAT HAS BEEN UNTESTED AND UNPROVEN IN AN OPEN WATER SETTING. I DO BELIEVE THAT IT IS NOT GOING TO PRODUCE AS GOOD OF WAVES HAVING A 66-FOOT SPAN IN BETWEEN 44-FOOT PYLONS OR COLUMNS.

I AM HEARING CONCERNS IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT FISHING THAT WON'T PRODUCE AS MUCH OF A MARINE ECOSYSTEM AS BEFORE WITH THOSE CLOSELY -- THOSE TIGHTER COLUMN SPACING AND MORE COLUMNS.

SO I URGE THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE COUNTY JUDGE TO CONSIDER THE TWO-COLUMN PIER AS THE WAY TO GO.

REBUILDING BOB HALL PIER IN A MORE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY ASPECT AND WITH THE TWO-COLUMN PIER DESIGN I BELIEVE WILL BE GOOD FOR THE COUNTY AND ITS CITIZENS. SO I URGE THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE JUDGE TO CONSIDER THE TWO COLUMN OVER THE ONE COLUMN, AGAIN, FOR ITS STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY.

I HAVEN'T SEEN AN EXAMPLE ON WEST COAST OR THE EAST COAST.

YOU MOVE TO THE WEST COAST OR THE EAST COAST PIERS, YOU WILL SEE NOT ONLY TWO COLUMNS BUT FOUR COLUMNS IN A ROW IN SERIES OF IT. IT SEEMS LIKE THESE PIERS HAVE BEEN HIGHLY CONSIDERED IN AN OPEN WATER SETTING AND OPEN, FOR HURRICANES NOT TO DESTROY THEM. AS WE KNOW HURRICANE HANNA WHICH WAS A CATEGORY 2 HURRICANE, I BELIEVE, TOOK OUT BOB HALL PIER.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR HEARING MY CONCERNS AND COMMENTS AND PLEASE CONSIDER THE TWO-COLUMN PIER DESIGN OVER THE ONE COLUMN. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. AND, AGAIN, I AM GOING TO CALL FOUR HERE, FOUR HERE. THAT'S HOW I AM GOING TO DO IT.

I WILL MOVE ON AGAIN JUST HOW I SEE IT.

I SEE CLIFF SCLOBOK FOLLOWED BY ROBERT CLURE.

THANK YOU. >> YES, GOOD MORNING.

>>JUDGE CANALES: GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

I AM CLIFF SCLOBOK, THE CO-CLEAR OF THE COASTAL BEND FOUNDATION.

I ALSO WANT TO SPEAK TO EVERYONE TODAY ABOUT THE BOB HALL PIER PILING DESIGN. RYAN TOUCHED ON SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I ALSO FOUND THAT THERE ARE -- WHEN WE RESEARCHED THE SINGLE PILING DESIGN, WE FOUND NOTHING ANYWHERE THAT SHOWED US, YOU KNOW, AN EXAMPLE OF THIS PIER EXISTING IN AN OCEAN SETTING. ALSO WHENEVER WE ASKED THE ENGINEER ON THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW, TO SHOW US AN EXAMPLE OF A SINGLE PILING, WE GOT NOTHING. WE ABSOLUTELY GOT NOTHING.

WE HAVE ASKED -- SINCE THEN, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYTHING.

SO ONE OF MY CONCERNS HERE IS THAT WE REALLY WANT TO SPEND $28 MILLION -- DO WE WANT TO GAMBLE THAT MUCH MONEY ON A DESIGN THAT WE FEEL LIKE IS UNPROVEN? I CERTAINLY HOPE NOT.

WE ALREADY HAVE ONE GIANT FIASCO IN THIS COUNTY WITH THE HARBOR BRIDGE. I SURE HOPE WE DON'T END UP WITH ANOTHER ONE WITH BOB HALL PIER. AND I THINK THAT IS A VERY DISTINCT POSSIBILITY WITH THE SINGLE PILING DESIGN.

HOPEFULLY WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD BACK BOB HALL PIER

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WITH THE TWIN PILING DESIGN. IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT, WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE A VALUABLE SURFING RESOURCE AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO SAVE 57 YEARS OF SURFING HERITAGE AROUND BOB HALL PIER. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ABOUT THE COST FIGURES I HAVE SEEN THROWN OUT, WHERE THEY CAME FROM, I AM NOT REAL CERTAIN, BUT AN EXTRA $4 MILLION IS BEING THROWN OUT TO CON STRU STRUCK THE TWIN PILING SYSTEMS. I FEEL THOSE FIGURES ARE COMPLETELY OVERINFLATED AND HOPE THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WILL CONSIDER CHECKING THOSE FIGURES OUT VERY CLOSELY AND HOPEFULLY COME UP WITH SOMETHING MORE REALISTIC. THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. AND GOT ONE MORE.

AND I WILL TAKE IT AGAIN JUST HOW I SEE IT HERE.

I LOST HIM ABOUT WAS IT ROBERT CLORE.

>> YES, HI, ROBERT CLORE, LIGHTHOUSE DRIVE WHICH IS ON IN NORTH PADRE ISLAND A COUPLE OF MILES WHAT IS LEFT OF THE PIER.

I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO SAY, BUT JUST CHIME IN TO SAY I APPRECIATE HAVING MULTIPLE SURF SPOTS.

RIGHT NOW WE REALLY ESSENTIALLY HAVE TWO SURF SPOTS AROUND PADRE CHANNEL AND THE PEER AND WE ARE ABOUT TO HAVE ONE.

I SURF. AND IT WOULD -- I AM HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN GET SOMETHING SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHAT WORKS.

THE TWO PILING STRUCTURES WORKS AND CREATES GOOD WAVES.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS PROPOSED STRUCTURE.

SINGLE PILING STRUCTURE WILL CREATE.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOMETHING OUT THERE QUICKLY. THAT IS REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. OKAY.

I AM GOING TO GO BACK INTO THE PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE ROOM.

AND I WILL ASK FOR LEO RIOS FOLLOWED BY ROBERT REID.

>> YES, GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SAY A FEW WORDS. I WAS GOING TO START WITH SOME THINGS ON PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE IN THIS MEETING, BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS GOING TO BE THE RIGHT TIME.

AND I WANT TO STAY POSITIVE AS POSSIBLE.

OKAY. BUT IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS HAVE BEEN FUNDED BY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FUNDING DOLLARS.

FIRST BEING APPROVED BY THE COURT.

AND SECOND OF ANY CONTRACT SERVICES, WHETHER IT BE ENGINEERING OR CONSTRUCTION WAS INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT ITSELF WHEN IT WAS APPROVED. THESE DOLLARS WERE BORROWED UNDER LOW INTEREST RATES AND ARE NOT PAID FROM THE GENERAL FUND WHERE THE SALARIES ARE PAID. THIS IS GOOD PLANNING.

I SUPPORT BOTH SALARY RAISES AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

SALARIES HAVE BEEN ADJUSTED MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE PAST THREE YEARS FOR MANY PAY GROUPS. AND MORE IS NEEDED IF WE ARE TO STAY COMPETITIVE. IN CLOSING I WILL SAY VOTE NO ON ITEM NUMBER 14. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: MR. ROBERT REID.

AND FOLLOWING ROBERT, IS IT -- IS IT MISS SPRAGENS.

Y YES.

YOU WILL BE NEXT. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS ROBERT REID, THE DIRECTOR BROKEN CHAINS RECOVERY CENTER.

I HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING JUDGE CANALES A FEW WEEKS BACK AND EXPLAINED TO HER WHAT OUR DILEMMA IS.

AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, WE HAVE FIVE HOUSES.

FOUR FOR MEN AND ONE FOR THE LADIES.

WE HAD SELECTED SOME PROPERTY THAT WE WANTED TO GET.

AND WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT.

BUT RATHER THAN SHARE THAT PART OF IT RIGHT NOW, WHAT I WOULD RATHER DO IS TELL YOU WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IN THE PAST. SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND -- JUDGE, EXCUSE ME. IS IT OKAY IF WE SHOW THAT VIDEO N NOW?

>>JUDGE CANALES: IN PUBLIC -- WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GO THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT AND WHEN WE CALL THE AGENDA ITEM.

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IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SO WE WOULD PRESERVE YOUR TIME.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHAT WE ARE DOING SO FAR.

LET ME MENTION TO YOU A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BROKEN CHAINS RECOVERY CENTER. LAST YEAR, I AM SURE NOT VERY MANY PEOPLE THAT KNOW THERE WERE 13,354 CAME THROUGH THE DOORS OF BROKEN CHAINS. LAST YEAR, AA HAD A STATISTIC OF 12.6. A STATISTIC OF 16.1.

N.A. BROKEN CHAINS MASS A SUCCESS RATE OF 35%. THERE IS NO OTHER ORGANIZATION IN THE STATE OF TEXAS -- I HAVEN'T CHECKED OUTSIDE THE STATE OF TEXAS -- THAT HAVE THESE ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

WHAT I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU IS THAT THE VISION THAT I HAVE IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FOR THE HOMELESS PROGRAM 80% OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO US WITH DRUG AND ALCOHOL PROBLEMS HAVE HIT BOTTOM. THEY ARE HOMELESS.

THEY HAVE NO PLACE TO GO. SO THEY ARE USED TO DEALING WITH THE HOMELESS, BUT OUR PROGRAM IS DIFFERENT IN THAT WE DON'T WANT TO JUST BED THE HOMELESS. WE WANT TO EDUCATE THE HOMELESS.

AND WE PLAN ON DOING THAT IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS AND I WILL READ REAL QUICK HERE. AND FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE TO ASSIST THEM IN BEING ABLE TO GET THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE AND SOCIAL SECURITY CARDS TO BE EMPLOYABLE.

ALSO, READING, WRITING AND PHONICS.

MANY HOMELESS PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO FILL OUT AN APPLICATION TO GET A JOB. BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THAT CAPA CAPACITY.

WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE FAITH IN FINANCE.

STITCH MINISTRIES, WORKING ALONG WITH US, WILL PRESENT FAITH AND FINANCE. HELPING THEM TO BE ABLE TO BUDGET THEIR MONEY AND LEARN THE PROPER WAY TO CONTROL THEIR MONEY. FAITH AND WORKS, TEACHING THEM ABOUT JOB NETWORKING. AND I AM OUT OF TIME, BUT I WILL SAY THIS, THE COMBINATION OF ALL THESE THINGS TOGETHER WILL HELP THIS COMMUNITY IMMENSELY BECAUSE IT -- THE COMMUNITY WANTS THIS.

THE HOMELESS WANT THIS. EVERYBODY WANTS THIS PROGRAM.

WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT OUR PROGRAM IS THE LOVE, THE EMPATHY AND COMPASSION WE HAVE FOR THE HOMELESS PEOPLE.

I, MYSELF, WAS ADDICTED. I NEVER SLEPT UNDER A BRIDGE, BUT I SLEPT MANY NIGHTS IN THE BACK SEAT OF MY CAR.

AND NOW I HAVE 25 YEARS CLEAN AND ASSOCIATE.

I KNOW THAT IT IS POSSIBLE. AND I HAVE THE ABILITY TO REACH THESE PEOPLE. THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE

OPPORTUNITY. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

AND WHEN THE ITEM DOES COME, WE WILL PLAY THAT VIDEO AND ANY OTHER PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE. I WILL CALL ON KEONDRA SPRAGINS.

FOLLOWED BY LORRAINE SANCHEZ AND THEN WE WILL MOVE BACK TO

ONLINE. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF BROKEN CHAINS AS WELL. ROBERT AND I GO TO CHURCH TOGETHER AND HE ASKED FOR A PEOPLE TO SPONSOR OR MENTOR.

AND I HAVE NEVER BEEN A DRUG ADDICT OR AN ALCOHOLIC, BUT I FELT LIKE THAT I COULD AT LEAST MENTOR.

I HAD A PERSONAL FRIEND THAT I HAVE KNOWN FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, PROBABLY 18 YEARS. I HAVE NEVER SEEN HIM CLEAN OR SOBER. AND I CAME ACROSS HIS BROTHER ONE DAY. AND I SAID HOW IS RANDY DOING.

HE SAID NOT GOOD. HE SAYS HE IS HOLDING A SIGN ON THE STREET CORNERS AND DANCING AROUND AND, YOU KNOW, BEGGING FOR MONEY. AND HE SAID YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T RECOGNIZE HIM IF YOU SAW HIM.

AND I SAID, YOU KNOW -- I AM READY TO JUST WASH MY HANDS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO WITH HIM.

I SAY, PRAY. I SAID BUT LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT A PLACE I HAVE BEEN MENTORING AT.

IT IS CALLED BROKEN CHAINS. IF YOU SEE YOUR BROTHER, TELL HIM TO GET OVER THERE. WE CAN HELP.

AND ONE NIGHT I WAS AT A MEETING, AND WE WERE SITTING THERE AND I LOOKED NEXT TO ME, AND I THOUGHT, GOSH, THIS GUY LOOKS FAMILIAR KIND OF. KEPT SIT THERE.

HE TURNS AROUND AND LOOKS AT ME AND SAY, SHANDRA.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN EACH OTHER IN SEVERAL YEARS.

I SAID, RANDY. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, HE LOOKED

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LIKE A LITTLE OLD MAN. HE WAS EMACIATED.

HAD I SEEN HIM ON THE STREET, I WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN IT WAS HIM.

I WILL SAY THIS. I BEGGED HIM TO STAY.

I TOLD HIM I WAS GLAD HE WAS THERE.

AND IF HE WOULD JUST WORK THIS PROGRAM, IT WOULD CHANGE HIS LIFE. ON THE 16TH OF MONTH, HE WILL HAVE THREE YEARS CLEAN. I HAVE GONE TO THE MEETINGS THERE LIKE I SAID AS A MENTOR. I -- I HAVE SEEN THE PEOPLE COME IN THERE, THE SHAPE THEY ARE IN. AND IT HAS CHANGED LIVES.

I HAVE SEEN THE DIFFERENCE IN T THEM. HE HAVEN'T HELD A JOB IN I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW LONG AND HE NOW WORKS.

MOST OF THEM IN THERE -- HAVE THEIR LICENSES AND HELP TO WHERE THEY GO. THEY ARE HOLDING JOBS.

AND I JUST SEE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW PEOPLE PASS BY ON THE STREETS.

THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE THE HOMELESS AND THEY DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH IT. BUT THEY ARE HERE.

IF WE CAN HELP ANYBODY COME THROUGH THESE DOORS AND GET THE FACILITY THAT WE NEED TO HOUSE MORE, IT WOULD JUST BE AMAZING FOR EVERYONE. THAT'S ALL I GOT.

THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU HAVE SHONDRA. MISS LORRAINE SANCHEZ.

>> THANK YOU. I AM THE ASSISTANT TO THE DIRECTOR OF BROKEN CHAINS OF ROBERT REID.

I ALMOST HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR BROKEN CHAINS ALMOST A YEAR IN OCTOBER. I DID NOT START OFF WITH WORK WITH BROKEN CHAINS. I STARTED AS A RESIDENT.

I AM AN ALCOHOLIC AND BROKEN CHAINS HELPED ME IN MY RECOVERY TO GET BACK ON MY FEET. I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF THE SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH, WHICH I AM VERY PROUD OF.

AND NOW THAT I AM WORKING FOR BROKEN CHAINS, AND I CAN GIVE BACK TO WHAT WAS GIVEN TO ME. WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE COME AND GO THROUGHOUT BROKEN CHAINS.

AND WHEN WE HAVE FULL BEDS, IT IS VERY SAD TO HAVE TO TELL THE MANY PEOPLE THAT CALL US FOR AVAILABLE BEDS, TO TURN THEM AWAY. IT BREAKS MY HEART WHEN WE HAVE TO SAY, I AM SORRY, WE DON'T HAVE A BED AVAILABLE, BUT KEEP CALLING ME BACK. KEEP CALLING ME BACK.

AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GROW.

AND HAVE MORE ROOM FOR MORE PEOPLE IN RECOVERY.

MORE HOMELESS. AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET APPROVED FOR THE FUNDING TO CONTINUE TO GROW AND HELP BROKEN CHAINS. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. I WILL MOVE BACK TO TIM DOWLING.

OKAY. WHY DON'T I GO TO -- IS IT TOMMY SCH SCHULTZ?

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, SIR.

>> HELLO. THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS TOMMY SCHULTZ. 430 KNICKERBOCKER, CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS. THANK YOU, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERINGS FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TODAY.

I MOVED HERE ABOUT 13 YEARS AGO TO SERVE.

I BROUGHT MY BUSINESS HERE. I AM ALSO A VIDEOGRAPHER.

I SURFED BOB HALL PIER. I AM WITH A PROGRAM THAT TESTS THE RECREATIONAL WATERS IN CORPUS CHRISTI AND A JUDGE FOR THE TEXAS SURFING ASSOCIATION. BOB HALL PIER HAS BEEN A CENTERPOINT OF THE COMMUNITY FOR DECADES.

THE WAVE IS ONE OF THE ONLY -- THE ONLY WAVE IN TEXAS IN A BOOK IN WORLD-CLASS WAVES AND THE BARREL PRODUCE AS WAVE AS THAT IS AMAZING. WE ARE REALLY CONCERNED OF THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY DURING HURRICANES.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE YOU WOULD WANT TO PROTECT A $28 MILLION

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INVES INVESTMENT.

THE SURF COMMUNITY IS THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF WATER RESCUES WHEN THE WATERS AREN'T ON THE BEACH, AND PIERS ARE KNOWN TO CREATE CURRENT NO MATTER HOW MANY PILINGS THEY HAVE.

SO WE DO A LOT OF RESCUES AROUND BOB HALL.

AND WE JUST WANT TO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE COURT TO CONSIDER THE SURF COMMUNITY WHO FEEL LIKE WE WERE KIND OF BYPASSED WHEN THE PIER WAS BEING DESIGNED.

AND I GUESS WE ARE TRYING TO LET PEOPLE KNOW HOW LARGE WE ARE AND HOW UNIFIED WE ARE. WE REALLY RESPECTFULLY -- REQUEST A TWO-PILING PIER. WE UNDERSTAND IT IS EASY TO GO WITH THE CHEAPEST FIRST BID, BUT WE REALLY FEEL LIKE THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO WHEN YOU WANT TO INVEST IN YOUR COM COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. AND SOMEONE HELP ME.

DO I HAVE ONE MORE? I THINK I HAVE ONE MORE LEFT.

I HAD CALLED FOR TIM DOWLING. I THINK HE MIGHT BE BACK ONLINE.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. SORRY I MISSED YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: NO WORRIES. IF I CAN ASK YOU TO SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR THE AUDIENCE.

THANK YOU, SIR. >> SURE, GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS MY 41ST YEAR BEING IN NUECES COUNTY. I AM TIM DOWLING AND A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS BUT NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE LEAGUE TODAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS ITEM NUMBER 10 ABOUT EARLY VOTING.

FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR VOTING CLERK MISS KARA SANDS WHEN I CALLED ABOUT A VOTING BY MAIL.

MY DEALINGS WITH HER SHE IS ALWAYS MOST PROFESSIONAL.

AFTER I LEFT YOUR MEETING ON AUGUST 29, EARLY IN THE DAY THE COURT HAD MOVED EARLY VOTE FROM 7 TO 7 AT ALL 24 EARLY VOTING LOCATION. THE COURT LATER THAT DAY CHANGED THEIR MINDS AND ONLY HAVE EARLY VOTING FROM 8 TO 5 DURING THE FIRST WEEK. MISS SANDS -- I -- SHE SAID ONE OR TWO LOCATIONS WOULD NOT EXPAND TO A 7 TO 7:00.

I UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT HERRER CONCERNS.

THE RESULT SHOULD BE THAT WE HAVE AS MUCH EARLY VOTING AS REASONABLY POSSIBLE. IN TIMES BEFORE OR AFTER WORK.

ESPECIALLY AFTER WORK BECAUSE MANY IN THE MORNING WILL BE RUSHING TO GET TO WORK AND PRESSED FOR TIME.

TIME PRESSURE IS STOPPED WHEN. I URGE TO YOU BE DO YOU AGREED TO DO TO HAVE ALL THE LOCATIONS ONLY 7 TO 7.

IF A LOCATION SAYS THEY ONLY AGREE BEFORE OPENING BEFORE 8 OR AFTER 5 FIRST WEEK, LIKELY STILL TIME TO FIND ACCEPTABLE LOCATIONS THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE A 7 TO 7:00.

PLEASE LOOK HARD FOR THOSE LOCATIONS.

IF THAT IS UNSUCCESSFUL ASK FOR THEM TO BE OPEN UNTIL 7 P.M.

EVEN IF THEY WILL NOT OPEN FOR 8 A.M.

FOR THOSE WHO WILL NOT AGREE TO A 7 TO 7 SCHEDULE.

PLEASE USE THE 24 LOCATIONS THAT YOU HAVE WHERE YOU DISTRIBUTE THE FINAL LIST OF THESE LOCATIONS, PUT AN ASTERISK NEXT TO THE FEW LOCATION THAT ARE ONLY OPEN 8 TO 5:00 THE FIRST WEEK OR BETTER 8 TO 7:00 AND LET THE OTHER LOCATIONS BE OPEN 7 TO 7:00. VALUE OF HAVING CONSISTENCY OF ALL LOCATIONS OPEN AT THE SAME TIME, BUT EVEN MORE IMPORTANT IS TO HAVE AS MUCH OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE AS REASONABLY POSSIBLE OR THERE WILL BE MANY LOCATIONS THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE AN EXPANDED 7 TO 7:00. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING MY

REMARKS. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, MR. DOWLING. I WILL TAKE ONE MORE.

NATHAN FLOYD. I KNOW OFF THIS BEEN WAITING.

I SAW YOU EARLIER. >> HELLO.

CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, I CAN.

>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

HI, I AM NATHAN FLOYD AT 14 # 1 PLAYA DELRAY IN PEDRO ISLAND.

I HAVE BORN AND RAISED AND SURFING BOB HALL PIER.

I AM INVOLVED IN THE LOCAL SURF RIDER AND MY FAMILY RUN AS LOCAL SURF SHOP AND WE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE VISIT CORPUS CHRISTI WITH THE INTENTION OF SEARCHING BOB HALL.

IT TRANSCENDS TEXAS AND HAVE BEEN FOE USED ON INTERNATIONAL SURFING MACHINES. IN MOVIES, AND VISITED BY HIGH-LEVEL SURFERS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

I AM IN STERN OPPOSITION OF THE MONO PILE DESIGN FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, INCLUDING SAND BAR FORMATION FOR SURFING, LATERAL

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HEARING IS, LESS HABITABLE STRUCTURE FOR MARINE LIFE AND FISHING AND THE PROPOSED COST ESTIMATES.

I WANT TO BRING ATTENTION TO A PIER BEING BUILT IN MY FRIEND'S HOMETOWN OF FOLLY BEACH, SOUTH CAROLINA.

FOLLY ISLAND IS A BARRIER ISLAND LIKE PADRE.

BUILDING A PIER 1039 FEET. COMPARED TO OUR PIER, 1250 FEET AND 20 FEET WIDE. THEIR DESIGN UTILIZES 208 PRE-STRESSED CONCRETE PILES, SUPPORT BEAMS, BUNCH OF STUFF PRICED AT $14 MILLION. OUR SINGLE PILING DESIGN IS FOUR AND A HALF TIMES AS FEW CONCRETE PILINGS AND ENCOMPASSES 1,000 SQUARE FEET LESS THAN FOLLY BEACH PIER.

IF WE HAVE AN APPROVED BUDGET OF $28 MILLION, I FEEL THAT THE PUBLIC DESERVES ANOTHER COST ANALYSIS AND COMPARISON OF OUR PROPOSED DESIGN. IF WE MAYBE KEPT THE ORIGINAL WIDTH OF THE PIER AND THE T-HEAD THE SAME ORIGINAL DESIGN AND NOT MOVING TO A DIAMOND HEAD STRUCTURE WE MAY HAVE THAT $4 MILLION ALREADY FOR THE TWO PILING DESIGN.

THE ADDITIONAL WIDTH OF THE NEARLY PROPOSED DESIGN ADDS NOTHING TO THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE PIER.

THE FOLLY BEACH PIER USES PILINGINGS.

I SPENT WEEK LOOKING FOR EXAMPLES OF MONO PIERS IN OCEAN HURRICANE-PRONE ZONES. I HAVE YET TO FIND ANY.

I SEARCHED UP THE EAST COAST AND USE TWO PILINGS.

FOLLY BEACH USES FOUR. MOST EVENINGS AFTER A LONG DAY OF WORK, MANY CAN FIND THE NUMBER OF SURFERS, MYSELF INCLUDED, CONGREGATING IN MICHAEL MAY'S, SPENDING MONEY AND ENJOYING EACH OTHER'S COMPANIES.

SURFERS ARE HERE I DON'T YEAR ROUND AND BRING MONEY TO THE RESTAURANTS AND TOWN. WE BRING MORE THAN JUST BUSINESS. BUT A SECOND LAYER OF SAFETY TO THE WATER AND FIRST RESPONDERS MORE OFTEN OR NOT IF SOMEONE IS IN DISTRESS. IF YOU WANT TO BUILD A PIER THAT IS SAFE FOR OCEANGOERS. YOU WANT A PIER THAT ATTRACT SURFERS. SAND MOVEMENT IS DYNAMIC BUT THE OLD PIER HAS PROVEN OVER THE YEARS TO PRODUCE THE BEST SURF IN THE STATE. POM SEEM AS TOMMY SAID MOVE HERE SPECIFICALLY AND BRING BUSINESSES TO CORPUS BECAUSE OF THE WAVE AS THAT WE GET. SOMETHING THAT IS PROUD OF AND WORTH SAVING. PLEASE LISTEN WITH AN OPEN MIND FOR PASSIONATE PEOPLE SPEAKING. MAYBE ENOUGH FOR TWO STORIES AND TWO PILINGS. MY HOPE THAT THERE IS A COMPROMISE AND MULTIPLE PARTIES FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN HEARD.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE WILL COME BACK WITH THE PUBLIC SIGN-IN SHEET FOR THOSE IN THE ROOM. AS I SAID GO BACK ONLINE AFTER FOUR. STANLEY COLE, PLEASE.

FOLLOWED BY MISS BETTY COLE. >> MY FIRST ASSOCIATION WITH ROBERT WAS WHEN HE A FEW OF HIS BOYS AND GIRLS CAME TO OUR CHURCH, SUNDAY SCHOOL. AND THEY KEPT THAT UP DOWN THROUGH THESE YEARS. ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, PRIOR TO COVID, I ATTENDED THE WEDNESDAY -- TO THE TUESDAY PROGRAM OF THE BROKEN CHAINS MINISTRY, WHICH I UNDERSTOOD WOULD BE SORT OF A -- AN EVANGELISTIC. AND TO MIGRATE PLEASURE THAT WAS CERTAINLY THE CASE. SEEMS TO ME THAT THE WHOLE BASIS OF THE BROKEN CHAINS MINISTRY IS BASED ON THE IDEA OF FAITH IN GOD AND CHRIST. AND THAT VERY WELL MIGHT BE SOME OF THE REASON FOR THE THAT ROBERT MENTIONED EARLIER.

SO I CERTAINLY URGE THAT THE FUNDING BE AVAILABLE FOR THIS TREMENDOUS ORGANIZATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. MISS BETTY COLE.

>> GOOD MORNING. IT IS A PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF BROKEN CHAINS.

AS MY HUSBAND HAD SAID EARLIER, WE FIRST MET ROBERT IN OUR BIBLE STUDY CLASS. HE BROUGHT -- THE FIRST TIME HE

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BROUGHT FIVE OR SIX OF HIS MEN AND WOMEN INTO US CLASS, IT WAS JUST LIKE A -- OH, WOW -- VERY QUIETLY UNDER MY BREATH.

AND I JUST KEPT SAYING OH, WOW, WHAT A TREMENDOUS MINISTRY THIS IS. AS TIME PROGRESSED, WE WENT OVER TO AND GOT OUR HEART GOING. WE WENT OVER TO BROKEN CHAINS AND MET AND HAD THE MEETING WITH SOME OF THE MEN AND WOMEN.

AND JUST BECAME SO ATTACH TO THIS MINISTRY.

ABOUT A YEAR LATER, HE OPENED THE LADIES HOUSE, AND I ATTENDED MEETINGS AT THE LADIES HOUSE. AND FOUND SUCH JOY WITH THESE LADIES. COME FROM SUCH BROKENNESS.

TO LISTEN TO THEIR HEARTSTRINGS, THEIR TESTIMONIES, AND WHERE THEY WERE COMING FROM. AND THE PATH THAT THEY WANTED TO TAKE AND WE SAW MANY LADIES BE ABLE TO GET THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE, GET OUT AND GET JOBS, AND MANY OF THEM ARE NOW ON THEIR OWN MAKING CONTRIBUTIONS TO IT THE -- TO THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND BEYOND. AT EVERY INSTANCE THAT I ATTENDED, ROBERT'S NAME CAME UP. SOMEBODY AT THE MEETING ALWAYS HAD SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT HOW ROBERT REID HAD BEEN SUCH A HELP IN THEIR LIFE SUCH AN INSTRUMENT IN THEIR RECOVERY.

I WANT TO SAY THAT THIS MAN IS A MAN OF GOD.

HE IS A GODLY MAN. HE LEADS A GODLY PROGRAM.

WHEN HE CAN'T BE THERE, HE GETS ONE OF HIS TRAINED PERSONNEL L LIKE LORRAINE TO STEP IN FOR HIM. I AM JUST SO IMPRESSED WITH OUR CITY AND WITH THESE MEN AND WOMEN.

HE HAS BEEN A BLESSING TO OUR CHURCH.

THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN A BLESSING TO OUR CHURCH AND WE

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

JULIE LAVERDE. >> I'M BACK.

I WAS HERE LAST WEEK. I LIVED HERE IN NUECES COUNTY FOR 53 YEARS. I'M HERE BECAUSE I WANT TO ADDRESS ITEM 3-A-14. AND ASK OUR GOOD COMMISSIONERS MAREZ, HERNANDEZ AND GONZALEZ TO CONSIDER THE SERIOUSNESS OF THEIR INDIVIDUAL VOTES TODAY ON THAT UNTIMELY, SELF-SERVING POLITICALLY CHARGED ITEM INSPIRED BY CHESNEY, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. THAT ITEM IS THE SAME SONG, DIFFERENT VERSE FROM LAST WEEK. TODAY I TAKE SIMILAR OBJECTION AS I DID LAST WEEK TO YOU HAVING TO VOTE ON AN AGENDA ITEM THAT IS NOT EVEN NECESSARY. ONLY 63 DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION. IT DOES NOT FIT THE LEGITIMACY OF THE COURT, THE PRODUCTIVENESS OR THE TRANSPARENCY OF THE COURT. NOR DOES IT LOOK GOOD ON ANY OF YOU. AND IT WILL BE ON YOU IF YOU DO NOT STABBED UP FOR WHAT YOU NKNW RIGHT FOR OUR COUNTY.

TO PARAPHASE SOMEONE MUCH WISER, BAD THINGS HAPPEN WHEN SOMEBODY DOES NOTHING. LAST WEEK WE SEE HOW COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IS ACTING OUT A PERSONAL AGENDA TO DISCREDIT JUDGE CANALES WITH THAT ITEM.

JUDGE CANALES IS SERVING OUR COUNTY AND COMMUNITY WITH TRANSPARENCY, WITH PROGRESS AND PRODUCTIVE INVESTIGATION AND STILL STRIVING AND MAINTAINING TO KEEP OUR COUNTY TAX RATE LOW.

HOW GOOD IS THAT. COMMISSIONERS MAREZ, HERNANDEZ AND GONZALEZ, PLEASE, THINK ABOUT YOUR VOTES.

YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR POWER TO MAKE THIS UNTIMELY AND POLITICALLY BIASED PROPOSAL GO AWAY.

PLEASE DON'T BE INTIMIDATED NOW. CHANCES ARE YOU MIGHT SUFFER MORE NEXT TERM. USE YOUR TERM GIVEN TO YOU BY NUECES COUNTY CITIZENS TO EXPRESS MATURE JUDGMENT AND VISION. PEOPLE WILL SEE THAT WHEN YOUR TURN COMES TO BE ON THE BALLOT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.

>>JUDGE CANALES: MISS BARBIE BAKER.

AND THEN WE WILL GO BACK ONLINE. >> GOOD MORNING.

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JUDGE CANALES. I HAVE A QUESTION.

I'M HERE FOR THREE SEPARATE ITEMS. MAY I DO AN OVERVIEW AND STILL RESERVE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK DURING THE DISCUSSION OF THOSE ITEMS?

>>JUDGE CANALES: YES, MA'AM. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

I AM BARBIE BAKER, CORPUS CHRISTI.

I -- I JUST COMPLETELY GOT SIDE TRACKED WITH WHERE HE WAS GOING TO START. BUT I WILL GO AHEAD AND START WITH THIS. COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE, AS THE LAST WEEKER, I IMPLORE YOU TO PLEASE TAKE HEED OF WHAT ITEM 14 IS ABOUT. IT IS ABOUT, AGAIN, PROTECTING THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY. MAKING BOARD APPOINTMENTS RIGHT BEFORE AN ELECTION CERTAINLY LEAVES THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASSUME OR EVEN MAYBE GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE BOARD APPOINTMENTS IN SUPPORT -- IN SEEKING SUPPORT FOR CAMPAIGNS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS OF CONCERN.

AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO E-MAILS EXCHANGED LAST TWEAK BETWEEN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY CHAIR, THE DEMOCRAT PARTY CHAIR AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE REGARDING VOTING LOCATIONS AND THE FACT THAT TWO OF OUR COMMISSIONERS ONLY WERE INCLUDED IN E-MAILS DISCUSSING VOTER LOCATIONS. AND MY WISH IS THAT IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND FULLY TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS BEST FOR ALL CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY, THEN WE WOULD HAVE INCLUDED ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS IN THIS DISCUSSION.

THE -- THE APPARENT, ASSUMED -- TRYING TO THINK OF THAT WORD OTHER THAN SNEAKY TO ACCOMPLISH THESE GOALS IS VERY DISAPPOINTING AND SI HOPE THAT EACH OF YOU WILL SUPPORT THIS, BECAUSE IT PROTECTS EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE COUNTY JUDGE. IF WE ARE NOT MAKING BOARD APPOINTMENTS SO CLOSE TO AN ELECTION, THERE IS OBVIOUSLY NO CHANCE THAT ANYONE WOULD ASSUME THAT BOARD APPOINTMENT IS BEING MADE IN EXCHANGE FOR A CAMPAIGN FAVOR.

THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

OKAY. GOING BACK ONLINE.

I HAVE GOT MISS FLORENCE TESEAU FOLLOWED BY MR. GREG ETNOTOWSKI.

>> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS FLORENCE TESEAU, LORENZO STREET IN CORPUS CHRISTI. I LIVED IN CORPUS CHRISTI FOR OVER 20 YEARS. AND I HAVE SERVED -- SURF THE MAJORITY OF THOSE YEARS AND I STILL SURF TODAY.

ONE OF THE PRIME SPOTS FOR SURFING IN CORPUS CHRISTI IS BOB HALL PIER. I'M HERE ALSO TO TALK ABOUT THE NEW DESIGN OF THE PIER. I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO ADD TO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID. AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH DATA OF WHAT A SINGLE PILING PIER WILL DO FOR THE SURF AND IN TERMS OF STRUCTURE AND INTEGRITY, BUT WE KNOW THAT A TWO PILING DESIGN WORKS, ESPECIALLY FOR SURF.

SURF HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY GOOD AT BOB HALL PIER AND PADRE BALLI PARK FOR LOTS AND HOTS OF YEARS. SO I URGE THE COURT TO CONSIDER STAY WITH A DESIGN THAT IS PROVEN AND WE KNOW WORKS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

ED TENOWSKI FOLLOWED BY TREY CAMP.

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, SIR.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS FOR LETTING ME TO SAY A FEW WORCESTER. I AM GREG AND FROM.

WORK DAY. I AM A LITTLE NORTH OF YOU ALL IN AUSTIN. I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON THE ERP MODERNIZATION PROJECT.

AND I WANTED TO SHARE A FEW IMPORTANT TOPICS WITH THE COURT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. FIRST, I WANT TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE AND THANK THE COUNTY FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS IMPORTANT AND STRATEGIC PROCESS.

AND ERP SOLUTION FOR YOUR HR, PAYROLL AN FINANCED OPERATION IS LONG-TERM INVESTMENT FOR THE COUNTY AND TYPICALLY ONLY SOMETHING THAT IS EVALUATED EVERY 10 TO 15 YEARS.

AND A PROJECT THAT IMPACTS EVERYONE IN THE COUNTY INCLUDING LEADERSHIP, EMPLOYEES AND CONSTITUENTS ALIKE.

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SO CHOOSING THE RIGHT PARTNER IS CRITICAL FOR SUCCESS.

AND WE WANT TO BE THAT PARTNER FOR THE COUNTY.

FROM OUR EXPERIENCE WORK WITH CITIES, COUNTIES AND STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AS MODERNIZE THEIR ERP.

WE SEE FOUR AREAS THAT ORGANIZATIONS FOCUS ON BEFORE MAKING A DECISION AND I WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU TODAY.

FOUR AREAS, ONE, FUNCTIONAL AND TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS.

TWO, ITS VALUE AND RETURN ON HAVY INVESTMENT.

THREE IS REFERENCES. AND LASTLY IS COST.

SO FUNCTIONAL AND TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY SOUND LIKE. DOES ITS ERP SOLUTION MEET MY FUNCTIONAL AND TECHNICAL NEEDS ACROSS FINANCE, BUDGING, PROCUREMENT, HR, PAYROLL, BENEFITS, LEARNING.

DOES THE SOLUTION MEET MY SECURITY REQUIREMENTS? DOES THE SOLUTION HAVE THE POWER TO ADAPT AND WILL IT MEET THE COUNTY'S REQUIREMENTS IN THE FUTURE? OR WILL THE COUNTY NEED TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AGAIN IN FIVE TO TEN YEARS. YOU KNOW THE NEXT IMPORTANT PIECE IS VALUE OR THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

IT'S A BIG AREA THAT ORGANIZATIONS ARE FOCUSED ON WHEN MAKE THIS TYPE OF DECISION. YOU KNOW, WHAT VALUE DOES THE COUNTY AECH ON RECEIVING FROM THIS PROJECT AND WHAT PROJECT, IF ANY, HAS CUSTOMERS AGREED AFTER GO LIVE FROM THE PREFERRED OR CHOSEN SOLUTION. NEXT IS THE REALLY IMPORTANT ONE WHICH IS REFERENCES. THEIR EXPERIENCE WILL BE YOUR EXPERIENCE. WE HAVE SEEN REFERENCES PROVE TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT CHECKING THEM IS A CRITICAL STEP BEFORE MAKING ANY BUYING DECISION.

WHAT EXPERIENCE HAVE CUSTOMERS HAVE DURING THEIR EMPLOYMENT.

WHAT ABOUT POST EMPLOYMENT SUPPORT? THESE ARE ALL IMPORTANT QUESTIONS TO ASK.

AND FINALLY, COST. COST IS ALWAYS GOING TO PLAY A HUGE ROLE IN MAKING A BUYING DECISION.

AND IT SHOULD. BUT IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP AND WHAT IS INCLUDED WITH THAT COST.

FOR EXAMPLE, WITH WORK DAY, UPGRADES, SECURITY, DISASTER RECOVERY, DATA CENTER, STORAGE AND MORE, ALL INCLUDED IN THE COST. SO FROM OUR EXPERIENCE, THESE ARE THE FOUR MOST IMPORTANT AREAS.

ORGANIZATIONS LIKE NUECES COUNTY FOCUS ON.

AND I URGE THE COURT TO CONSIDER THEM AS WELL.

NUMBER ONE IS FUNCTIONALITY. TWO IS VALUE OR THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT. THREE IS REFERENCES.

AND LAST IS COST. I HOPE YOU FOUND THIS INFORMATION HELPFUL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

AND WE WISH THE COUNTY THE BEST OF LUCK ON THIS STRATEGIC

PROJECT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR. TREY CAMP.

>> GOOD MORNING. CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>>JUDGE CANALES: YES, SIR. >> PERFECT.

GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE CANALES.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK PUBLICLY ON AN ISSUE WE HOLD DEAR. I AM TREY CAMP AND GREW UP IN CORPUS CHRISTI SINCE I WAS NINE. WHAT JUDGE CANALES SAID WITH THE RESPECT OF THE BASEBALL TEAM. MAY IT ALWAYS BE YOUR HOME.

THAT IS THE SPIRIT OF WHICH I'M HERE COMMENTING HERE TODAY.

BOB HALL PIER, AS A HISTORICAL TWO PILING DESIGN HAS BEEN MY SURFING HOME FOR 20 YEARS. I ALREADY HAVE A LIFETIME OF FOND MEMORIES SURFING THERE AND BUILDING MEANINGFUL FRIENDSHIPS.

I HAVE FUN MEMORIES OF SUNSET GRILL THAT HOLDS THE CLAIM OF THE BEST BURGER I EVER EATEN BUT I DIGRESS.

I IMPLORE YOU GUYS TO PROVIDE THE SAME OR BETTER OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS THAT CALL CORPUS CHRISTI HOME.

BIGGYBACKING OFF OF OTHER COMMENTS BY SURFRIDER FOUNDATION AND NATHAN FLOYD, AN ARTICLE BY MONTEREY BAY AQUARIUM IN CALIFORNIA THAT SAYS MAN-MADE COASTAL STRUCTURES LIKE WHARFS, PIERS AND JETTIES HAVE MARINE LIFE.

BETTER WAVES AND PROVIDE A SANCTUARY FOR MARINE LIFE.

THIS IN TURN CREATES BETTER FISHING AND SURFING FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY NOT JUST ME THAT PROVIDES TOURISM AND PATRIOTISM. WILL DRIVE TOURISM REVENUE WHETHER I HELP MULTIPLE ISLAND BUSINESSES.

I IMPROPER THE COURT FOR A YOU TWO PILING DESIGN FOR BOB HALL PIER. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, MR. CAMP.

MOVE ON TO CANDACE CLOUD. FOLLOWING CANDACE, CLEO CAMPOS.

>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE CANALES AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

HELLO, I AM CANDACE CLOUD AND I WORK FOR THE COUNCIL OF ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE OF THE COASTAL BEND.

I AM THE LEAD RECOVERY COACH FOR THE PROGRAM.

I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF ROBERT REID AND THE BROKEN CHAINS

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ORGANIZATION HE REPRESENTS. I CAN TELL YOU AFTER WORKING MANY YEARS HE PROVIDES IMPERATIVE SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. HIS ORGANIZATION IS INSTRUMENTAL IN PROVIDING A SAFE, HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT FOR THOSE SUFFERS FROM SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER. HE GIVES PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD A FOUNDATION OF RECOVERY.

THEREFORE, I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF ROBERT REID FOR ITEM NUMBER 3-A-9. THANK YOU FOR MY TIME.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, CLEO CAMPOS.

FOLLOWED BY MR. MIKE VERON SPARKS HI, I AM CLEO CAMPOS AND SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF BROKEN CHAINS WITH MR. REID.

I WORK FOR A RE-ENTRY FACILITY DOWNTOWN.

AND MR. REID HAS WORKED WITH US FIRST HAND.

HE PROVIDED ANU AA ANDNA SERVICES FOR OUR RESIDENTS FOR

MANY YEARS. >> PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICR MICROPHONE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: JUST FOR THE RECORDING, THANK YOU.

>> WE MET MR. REID IN 2008 AND HE PROVIDED TREMENDOUS SERVICE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. HE HAS GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND TO TRANSPORT THEM TO THE NIGHTLY MEETINGS.

HE HOLDS THEM ACCOUNTABLE AND WILL GO ABOVE AND BEYOND TO HELP THEM IN ANY WAY THAT HE CAN. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MR. MIKE CARONA. >> GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MIKE CORON A.

I AM A DIRECTOR AT THE RE-ENTRY PROGRAM ACROSS THE STREET.

WE HOUSE FEDERAL INMATES COMING OUT OF PRISON.

AND LIKE MISS CAMPOS SAID, WE HAVE BEEN WORK WITH MR. REID SINCE 2008. WE FOUND HIS -- HIS BULLETIN IN ONE OF THE LOCAL CHURCHES. AND CLEO BROUGHT IT TO ME AND SAID WE REALLY NEED TO GET A HOLD OF THIS GUY BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE HERE FOR DRUG OFFENSES.

SO WE GOT A HOLD OF MR. REID. AND ONE OF THE THING THAT THE BUREAU OF PRISONS REQUIRES OF US -- BECAUSE WE CONTRACT WITH THE BUREAU OF PRISONS IS ACCOUNTABILITY.

SOMETIMES WHEN MEN AND WOMEN AT THE CENTER SIGN UP TO GO UP TO NA MEETINGS OR AA MEETINGS, THEY SORT OF STRAY A LITTLE BIT.

MR. REID SAID I HAVE A VAN. I CAN PICK THEM UP AND TAKE THEM TO OUR PROGRAMS. THAT WAS FANTASTIC BECAUSE WE HAD ACCOUNTABILITY. AND THEY WERE GETTING THE MUCH-NEEDED SERVICE. SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS -- THEY HAVE BEEN GOING TO MR. REID FOR YEARS NOW.

WE HAD TO STOP BECAUSE OF COVID. AND MR. REID SAID THAT THERE ARE STILL A COUPLE OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE STILL GOING FOR THE RECOVERY PROCESS. AND FOR THAT, WE REALLY THANK MR. REID AND HE IS PROVIDING A GREAT SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

MR. JOE DRIVER. >> YOUR HONOR, COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE. I AM JOE DRIVER AND REGIONAL -- AND OF THE HALFWAY HOUSE AND RE-ENTRY CENTER IN CORPUS CHRISTI. HIM HERE IN SUPPORT OF ROBERT REID AND BROKEN CHAINS. IN MY 40 YEARS OF DEALING WITH CRIMINAL JUSTICE INDIVIDUALS, IT IS THE MOST PROLIFIC PROGRAMS THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN. NOT JUST A MINISTRY BUT HIS LEVEL OF DISCIPLESHIP, CONTINUITY, PATIENCE, LOVE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ROAD TO RECOVERY AND SUSTAINABILITY FOR THOSE WHO ARE SUFFERING FROM DIFFERENT TYPES OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE IS A LONG JOURNEY. WE HAVE WHAT I HAVE SEEN HIM DO HERE IN NUECES COUNTY AND THE CORPUS CHRISTI AREA AS ANOTHER PARTY DEALING WITH THAT HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL.

THE INDIVIDUALS HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO REACH, NOT ONLY IN HELPING THEM AND PROVIDING A HAND UP, BUT ALSO GIVING THEM AN ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO STAND UP AND HAVE SUSTAINABLE IN THE FUTURE.

AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT HIS PROGRAM.

GNAW. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, SIR.

I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE ONLINE, BUT COULD I ASK FOR ANYONE ELSE ONLINE WHO WISHES TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME TO RAISE YOUR VIRTUAL HAND. OKAY.

THANK YOU. WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK, BUT I AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO. ORDER HERE AS WE HAVE ON OUR CHART. JUST SO YOU GUYS WONDERING, THERE IS AT LEAST TEN MORE. SO MR. RICK SEEINGLE.

FOLLOWED BY MISS RITA GRAHAM. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE,

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COMMISSIONERS. FIRST THING I WANT TO DO BEFORE I ADDRESS THE ITEM THAT I AM LOOKING AT HERE IS TO CONGRATULATE ALL OF YOU FOR BEING HONORABLE PEOPLE, DOING A GREAT JOB FOR OUR COUNTY. WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE ON EVERYTHING, BUT I WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING THAT.

AND I, AS A TAXPAYER AND CITIZEN OF NUECES COUNTY TRUST YOU TO DO YOUR JOB. MY NAME IS RICK DEAGLE AND I LIVE 2362 SANTA MARIA LANE IN CORPUS CHRISTI.

I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN POLITICS FOR ABOUT 65 YEARS, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, EVERY ASPECTS OF IT. AND THERE IS AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN OUR PROCESS. I BELIEVE WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY PAUSE OF OUR LAWS AND OUR RULES ARE ALLOWED TO VOTE AS CITIZENS. WELL, A LOT OF COUNTRIES HAVE THE SAME AVAILABILITY TO THEIR CITIZENS.

BUT WE ARE UNIQUE. BECAUSE WE ARE ALSO ALLOWED TO BE AS CITIZENS INVOLVED IN POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS.

NO OTHER COUNTRY ALLOWS THIS. NOT IN THE SAME MANNER THAT WE ARE IN THE UNITED STATES. AND THE WORST THING WE CAN DO IN MY OPINION, MY HUMBLED OPINION IS TO RESTRICT CITIZENS FROM PARTICIPATING IN THE PROCESS. AND AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT BOTHERS ME. AND I DON'T SEE IT WRITTEN EXACTLY LIKE I FOUND IT ONLINE AND MAYBE MY AGE I OUGHT TO STAY OFF THE COMPUTER. AND IF I AM WRONG, I APOLOGIZE.

BUT THE WAY I READ IT IS THAT YOU WANT TO RESTRICT BY THIS PROPOSAL -- RESTRICT WE, AS CITIZENS, AS PARTICIPANTS, AS CONTRIBUTORS, AS TAXPAYERS FROM BEING INVOLVED IN THE CAMPAIGN OF THE LAST MONTHS OF THE LAST WEEKS OF THE CAMPAIGN.

WELL, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

FIRST OF ALL, I TRUST YOU. AND I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD TRUST ME AND EVERYBODY IN HERE TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS.

I THINK WE HAVE PLENTY OF OVERSIGHT.

AND TRANSPARENCY. BUT WHAT YOU DO IS THAT YOU BY YOUR STOPPING US FROM PARTICIPATING AT THE LAST FEW WEEKS OF THE CAMPAIGN, YOU ARE RESTRICTING US FROM BEING INVOLVED. AND I JUST BELIEVE THAT -- I WOULD WISH YOU WOULD RETHINK THAT.

AND I THINK IF YOU IT REALLY DIG DEEP, YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT TO THE CITIZENS. I TRUST TO YOU MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. MISERY AT THAT GRAHAM.

>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS RITA GRAHAM, 437 BERMUDA PLACE, CORPUS CHRISTI.

BACK IN 2012, I STARTED AS A CLERK FOR THE ELECTIONS, IN 2016, I BECAME AN ELECTION JUNG. I HAVE BEEN -- THIS YEAR I HAVE BEEN WORKING EARLY VOTING AND ELECTION DAY AS WELL.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE TIMES THAT YOU WANT TO PUT FOR EARLY VOTING. TO BEGIN WITH, FINDING ELECTION WORKER IS NOT ALWAYS EASY. PEOPLE DON'T REALLY WANT TO DO IT. AND MOST OF US ARE RETIRED.

MOST OF US ARE OVER 60 YEARS OLD.

IN A FEW SHORT YEARS, I WILL BE 70.

AND I WILL SAY THERE ARE A LOT OF TIMES I WILL GO INTO A WORKPLACE, INTO A POLLING PLACE, I AM THE YOUNGSTER.

SO PUTTING HOURS OF 7 TO 7:00 FOR 11 DAYS PUTS A STRAIN ON US.

MOST -- WHEN WE ARE DOING 7 TO 7:00, THE FIRST DAY WE START AT 6:00 IN THE MORNING AND IF WE ARE LUCKY AND NO ONE IS IN LINE AT THE END OF THE DAY WE LEAVE MAYBE BY 7:15, BUT IF SOMEBODY IS STILL IN LINE OR IN LINE BEFORE 7:00, WE ARE LEAVING THERE LATER. THAT IS A VERY LONG DAY.

WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE LIKE ME, ADVANCED AGE IN THERE WORKING ALL DAY, IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT.

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THE DAYS AFTER THAT FIRST DAY WE GET THERE AT 6:30 IN THE MORNING AND SAME THING IN THE AFTERNOON. 7:15 OR MUCH LATER.

THOSE LONG HOURS OVER 11 DAYS AND ELECTION DAY IS REALLY HARD.

IT'S TOO MUCH. TOO MUCH TO PUT ON YOUR WORKERS.

IF YOU HAD YOUNGER WORKERS, MAYBE IT WOULDN'T BE THAT BAD.

BUT WE ARE. WE ARE NOT.

IT TAKES A LOT TO DO THIS. IF YOU HAVE A REALLY BUSY DAY AND YOU ARE AT A POLLING PLACE AND IT IS 12 HOURS AND YOU HAVE SEVERAL OF THOSE RIGHT IN A ROW, THAT MAKES IT REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT. AND TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, IF THIS WAS -- WELL, IT PUTS STRAIN ON US, PLUS IT PUTS PEOPLE WHO WORK THE ELECTIONS HERE. AND THOSE PEOPLE WORK REALLY, REALLY HARD. I GUARANTEE YOU THEY ARE WARRIORS. I WANT THE FIRST -- LIKE WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE IT, FIVE DAYS OF 8 TO 5:00 AND THE REST OF THEM 7 TO 7:00. EVEN AT THAT, THAT IS PRETTY H HARD.

IF SOMEONE REALLY WANTS TO VOTE, THEY WILL FIND THE TIME TO VOTE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, MA'AM. MISS BECKY MOLAR.

FOLLOWED BY FLORIDA FRANK FLOYD. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST 3-A-14. I AM OF THE OPINION THAT COUNTY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE PART OF NUECES COUNTY GOVERNMENT, AND THEY SERVE A PURPOSE, OTHERWISE WHY WOULD WE EVEN HAVE A BOARD OR A COMMISSION IF THEY DIDN'T SERVE A PURPOSE.

CITIZENS AGREE TO SERVE FOR MANY REASONS.

THEY FEEL THEY HAVE INPUT TO SHARE OR THEY WANT TO KNOW HOW GOVERNMENT REALLY WORKS OR THEY COULD BE DISENCHANTED, FEEL DISENFRANCHISED AND WANT TO SHARE OPINIONS AND INFORMATION.

BUT THEY VOLUNTEER FOR THESE BOARDS FOR A REASON.

IN OUR RULES, TERMS AND TIME LIMITS ARE NORMALLY ESTABLISHED FOR ORDERLY TRANSITION AND APPOINTEES TO KNOW HOW LONG THEY ARE GOING TO BE ASKED TO SERVE AND WHAT ARE THEY COMMITTED TO.

THOSE TIMELINES AND TERM LIMITS SHOULD NOT BE MONKEYED WITH.

I AM AT A LOSS WHY THIS AGENDA ITEM IS TOO IG TO DISLODGE THIS ORDERLY PROCESS FOR CITIZEN PARTICIPATION IN COUNTY GOVERNMENT. THE NORMAL ETHIC PROCEDURES IN PLACE FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS AND NUECES COUNTY ARE THE RULES WE SHOULD BE LOOKING TO FOR GUIDANCE AND ABIDE BY.

KNEE-JERK REACTION TO STOP APPOINTMENTS SEEMS SHORT-SIGHTED AND SINGLES OUT PARTICIPANTS WHO WANT TO ENGAGE IN GOOD GOVERNMENT. I HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO SEVERAL CAMPAIGNS, BUT NOT TO THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBER.

WHEN I READ -- AND I HAD TO READ THIS TWO OR THREE TIMES.

WHEN I FINALLY GOT WHAT THE AGENDA ITEM -- IT IS ABBREVIATED OF COURSE ON THE AGENDA THAT WE PICKED UP OUTSIDE.

IN NUMBER TWO, IT REFERS TO INDIVIDUAL MEMBER OF THE COURT.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW BUT GUYS, BUT I NEVER MADE A PERSONAL CHECK OR A PAC CHECK TO AN INDIVIDUAL MEMBER OF THE COURT.

I THINK THOSE CHECKS ARE APPROPRIATELY TO THE BLAH-BLAH-BLAH CAM PANE. NOT TO THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBER.

SO PAC MONEY DOES NOT GO TO AN INDIVIDUAL MEMBER.

THE COURT, AT LEAST THE PACS BY VON INVOLVED IN AS A CONTRIBUTOR AND ADMINISTRATOR DON'T GO TO AN INDIVIDUAL.

THEY GO TO THE CAMPAIGN. THEN THE CAMPAIGN USES THAT MONEY TO PAY FOR LEGIT MALL CAMPAIGN EXPENSES.

IN MY OPINION THAT IS THE WAY IT HAS BEEN, BUT NOT AN YESTERDAY.

SO I QUESTION THE LANGUAGE. AND IF THIS IS -- IF WHAT I RECEIVED THAT IS PRINTED IS WHAT THE POLICY IS GOING TO READ, I THINK THERE IS AN INHERENT FLAW IN IT.

IT SHOULD BE WORDSMITHED IN MY OPINION, AND IT IS QUITE AN ERROR. IN MY WORKING LIFE, I HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO SEVERAL PACS. THOSE PACS HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO NATIONAL, STATE AND LOCAL CAMPAIGNS.

APP A DONOR, THE PIECE OF MY PAC CONTRIBUTION IS VERY SMALL.

AS I -- LIKE THE LADY BEFORE ME MISS GRAHAM SAID WE ARE ALL GETTING OLDER. NOW MY CONTRIBUTIONS ARE EVEN SMALLER. I LIVE ON A FIXED LIMITED NORTH CAROLINA. I STILL GIVE TO MY PAC.

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I GO FIVE TO TWO PACS, SMALLER CONTRIBUTION BUT THE AMOUNT -- MY PIECE IS SMALLER AND SMALLER THE OLDER I GET.

BUT I GIVE TO CAMPAIGNS THAT I CARE ABOUT, DIRECTLY TO THAT CAMPAIGN. NOT TO THE INDIVIDUAL OR THROUGH MY P A SHGZC. I ALSO HAVE BEEN -- I HAVE ASKED TO BE ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND I HAVE BEEN ASKED BY OTHERS TO SERVE ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

BELIEVE ME, I DON'T WANT TO BUY THAT JOB.

WHEN I SERVED ON THE JTPA BOARD AND THE PIC BOARD A NUMBER OF YEARS, YOU WOULDN'T PAY ANYONE TO PUT YOU ON THAT BOARD BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT IS HARD WORK.

YOU CAN ASK JOE MCCOMB. HE WAS ONE OF MY FRIENDS ON THE BOARD AND IT IS HARD WORK TO SERVE ON SOME OF THESE BOARDS.

YOU DON'T BUY YOUR WAY INTO IT BECAUSE THERE AIN'T NO FUN TO BE HAD THERE IN A LOT OF THEM. BY URGE TO YOU VOTE AGAINST AGENDA ITEM 3-A-14. DON'T FIX WHAT IS NOT BROKEN.

AND THE LANGUAGE AT QUESTIONABLE AT BEST.

THANK YOU, I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE.

THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

MR. FRANK FLOYD. FOLLOWING MR. FLOYD WILL BE

CHUCK PERNETT. >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS FRANK FLOYD. I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF PADRE ISLAND SINCE 1979. GROWN UP -- HAS GROWN UP IN THIS AREA MY COAL LIVING. PORTLAND AND THEN P.ADRE ISLAND.

AS YOU KNOW I LIKE SURFING. I HAVE BEEN SURFING AT BOB HALL PIER FOR A HECK OF A LOT TIME. I HAVE SEVERE QUESTIONS OF THE MONO PILING DESIGN THAT Y'ALL ARE CONSIDERING.

ONE THING IF I STAND ON ONE LEG AND YOU TAP ME FROM THE SIDE, I AM FALLING OVER. I PUT TWO FEET DOWN, I HAVE A CHANCE TO STAY. THERE IS NOT MANY MONO POD CREATURES IN EXISTENCE IN THE WORLD.

THEY ALL HAVE TWO LEGS OR MORE TO STAND ON I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW A SINGLE PILING IS IT GOING TO HOLD A BIGGER, WIDER PIER 66 FEET APART IN THE CONDITIONS WE HAVE OUT HERE.

THE GULF IS A PRETTY UNIQUE BODY OF WATER.

WE DON'T HAVE -- WHEN WE GET BIG STORM SWELLS NOT 20 FEET PERIODS. BUT 10-FOOT PERIODS.

WE GET MORE THAN THE BIGGER OCEANS THAT GET BIGGER SWELLS.

I REALLY THINK THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT HARD.

THE OTHER THING SI UNDER STOOD -- AND I AM NOT SURE IF THIS IS TRUE OR NOT -- BUT DESIGN THE MONO PILING, THEY SAID THEY WILL HAVE TO BUILD IT OFF OF A BARGE. IF THAT IS TRUE WE HAVE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS ON BARGES AT THE PIER WITH SMALL DAY WITH LIGHT TO MOD A RAT LITTLE SQUALLS MOVING THROUGH.

I HEARD SOMETHING OF A TIME SAVINGS HAVING THE MONO PILING DESIGN. I HAVE PRETTY GOOD QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE WHEN IT IS BUILT IN A BARGE.

THAT BARGE WILL BE HAPPY RUNNING BACK TO PORT ARANAS QUITE OFTEN.

ONE OF THE FLATTEST SUMMERS IN A LONG TIME.

NO HURRICANE SWELL ACTIVITY. VERY SMALL SURF.

THE DAYS AT THE BARGES WERE NOT CONSIDERED BIG SURF DAYS WHATSOEVER. SO I -- I SERIOUSLY THINK THERE ARE DESIGN PROBLEMS WITH THAT. I HEARD A LITTLE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, I GUESS, MITIGATION INSTEAD OF PUTTING THE TWIN PILINGS UP TO MAKE THE PIER BETTER FOR SURFING WHICH WILL BE BETTER FOR FISHING BECAUSE MUCH, MUCH MORE HABITAT FOR BARNACLES, OYSTERS, FISH, THAT ATTRACT BIGGER FISH.

TALK ABOUT LIKE SOME NEW IDEA TO HAVE A SURF PIER OR A ROW OF PILINGS DOWN ON THE BEACH. WE USED TO HAVE ONE OF THOSE.

THAT GOTTEN TAKEN OUT AFTER IT WAS DONE.

EIGHTHS TO TEN -- I AM PRETTY SURE EIGHT TO TEN YEARS THAT IDEA WAS BROUGHT BACK UP WITH THE COUNTY PARKS BOARD AND SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE MASTER PLAN FOR ALMOST A DECADE ALREADY. NOT A NEW IDEA.

IT WAS JUST WAITING ON FUNDING. NOT DESIGNED OR THOUGHT OF TO PUT IN TO TAKE THE PLACE OF THE EXISTING LOCATION THAT WE ALREADY HAVE BUT TO EXPAND THE OPPORTUNITIES AND TO HELP ALLEVIATE OVERCROWDING. SO THAT IS A GREAT IDEA.

BUT NOT INSTEAD OF. IN ADDITION TO AND MAKES ANOTHER GREAT FISHING PLACE EVEN IF THERE ARE NO PILINGS ON TOP.

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ME AND SEVERAL PEOPLE I KNOW WHEN THE FLAT DAYS WOULD COME AT THE OLD LUBY PIER, GET ON OUR BOARD AND CAST INTO THE PILINGS AND CATCH RED FISH AND TROUT. FEW OTHER ITEMS TOO.

SO IT IS MORE THAN JUST A SURFING CONCEPT.

IT IS FOR THE WHOLE IDEA. SO I JUST HOPE YOU ALL WILL CONSIDER THE STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS AND REALLY TAKE A FOOD LOOK AT THAT. AND THINK OF THE WHOLE OVERALL RESULTS OF WHAT YOU ARE PLANNING ON DOING.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

WILL CHUCK BURNETT. FOLLOWED BY HECHT LE CONA.

>> GOOD MORNING, YOUR HONOR AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, PRAY YOU ARE DOING WELL. EARLIER WE HEARD -- KIND OF SURPRISED TO HEAR A POLITICALLY CHARGED ATTACK ON CHESNEY THAT WAS -- THAT BASICALLY ACCUSED HIM OF MAKING A POLITICALLY CHARGED ACCOUNT. I HOPE WE REALIZED THAT WAS A POLITICALLY CHARGED ATTACK THAT WE ACTUALLY HEARD.

AND ANOTHER WOMAN SPOKE RIGHT BEFORE ME SAID SOMETHING ABOUT ELECTING INDIVIDUALS AND DONATING TO PACS AND STUFF AND MEANT TO GO TO CAMPAIGNS ARE, NOT INDIVIDUALS.

EVERY CAMPAIGN IS TO ELECT AN INDIVIDUAL TO OFFICE.

WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT. CHESNEY'S ITEM, NUMBER 14 ON THE AGENDA, THE FOUR POINTS THAT HE HAD LAST WEEK.

AND TWO POINTS LEFT FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER.

I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THERE AGAIN THAT WAS SINGLING OUT ANYBODY BECAUSE OF A POLITICAL PARTY.

HE WAS ACCUSED OF MAKING AN ATTACK AGAINST YOU, YOUR HONOR.

HE MADE PROVISIONS TO EXCLUDE YOU FROM OFFICES THAT YOU ARE ALREADY HAVE OR SERVING AND HE SAID WE CAN LEAVE THAT OUT.

I THINK IT WAS VERY CLEAR NOBODY IS BEING SINGLED OUTS.

THAT THE INTENTION OF MR. CHESNEY'S PROPOSALS WAS FOR GOOD GOVERNMENT AND TRANSPARENCY. FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTY AND THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY. THE OTHER ITEM I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS IS -- WOULD LIKE SUPPORT KARA SANDS.

AS LONG AS I HAVE KNOWN KARA SANDS.

SHE WANTS THE ELECTIONS OF NUECES COUNTY TO BE FAIR.

WANTS ALL CITIZENS -- NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE, SHE WANTS TO INCLUDE AS MANY CITIZENS AS SHE CAN TO BE ABLE TO VOTE.

SHE MAKES IT EASY. WHENEVER I TALK TO PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTIES. I HAVEN'T RUN ACROSS ANYBODY ELSE WHO CAN GO -- THAT ASK LIVE IN FLOUR BLUFF AND VOTE I IN BRUNZER AND PULL A BALLOT TO BE ABLE TO VOTE THERE.

SHE HAS MADE IT SO EASY FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE IN NUECES COUNTY AND I THINK WE SHOULD HEED HER CONSIDERATIONS, HER SUGGESTIONS.

I THINK HER INTENT, HER HEART IS FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

RUELL CAONA. >> GOOD MORNING, YOUR HONOR AND COMMISSIONERS. SPEAKING OF HEART, I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY THAT HAS MORE HEART THAN JUDGE CANALES FOR THIS COUNTY.

I HAVE HEARD HER SPEAK TO THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS, WITH ALL DUE CONSIDERATION FOR THE WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE AND THE BENEFITS OF THIS GREAT COUNTY. I CAN ONLY SAY THIS.

I WAS PRIVY TO A CONVERSATION IN WHICH SHE HAD WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEER AND SPEAK THEIR LANGUAGE VERY CLEARLY AND COIN SIZELY AND THEY UNDERSTOOD IT. I AM SURE THAT JUDGE CANALES IS CONSIDERING EVERYBODY, INCLUDING THE SURFERS AS WELL.

AND NOT JUST THAT, BUT IN BROKEN CHAINS, THIS IS A BIG PROBLEM.

AS A PRIOR POLICE OFFICER, I CAN TELL YOU THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS AFTERWARDS, BUT WHAT HAPPENS BEFORE IS THE AVAILABLE OF DRUGS.

AND THE COMMON SENSE TO IS THAT IS THEY BLAME THE BORDER WITH IT. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THOSE DRUG DEALERS ARE LIKE -- THEY ARE BUSINESSMEN.

AS LONG AS THERE IS A DEMAND FOR THAT, THEY ARE GOING TO PUT IT OUT. AND WE, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND THIS COUNTY, HAVE A BIG DEMAND FOR IT.

SO WE NEED BROKEN CHAINS. I HAVE A BROTHER WHO PASSED FROM DRUG ADRINKS, ALCOHOLISM. AND I CAN TELL YOU FIRSTHAND, I HAVE DEALT WITH IT. AS A VET, I HAVE SEEN VETERANS COME BACK SUFFERING FROM PTSD AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPEN WHEN YOU SERVE. THESE GENTLEMEN I FOUND ON THE STREET AND THEY MAKE THAT ISHGLE.

THEY GO ROUND AND ROUND AND SOMETIMES THEY DON'T COME OUT OF IT. A PLACE LIKE BROKEN CLAIMSST CHAINS THAT MAY HELP THEM, IF IT DOESN'T, SOMEBODY FOR A MILITARY

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VET WILL BE DOING A MILITARY FUNERAL.

SAD THAT THOSE THINGS EXIST. AND ALSO SAD THAT OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE TO PUT UP WITH THAT.

BUT AS A FAMILY, WE HAVE TO DEPEND ON ONE ANOTHER TO HELP EACH OTHER AND BROKEN CHAINS IS THAT.

WE HAVE TO DEPEND ON OUR ELECTIONS, OUR LEADERS TO DO THEIR JOB AS WE LOOK AT IT, OUR MODEL IS IN GOD WE TRUST.

WE CAN'T BE CHRISTIANS ON SUNDAY AND BEAT, YOU CHESTS AND ON MONDAYS BEAT OUR BROTHERS. NOT THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO PB.WITH HE TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN FOR ONE ANOTHER.

DO THE BEST WE CAN. I WANT TO THANK YOU, JUDGE, AND YOU, COMMISSIONERS, DOING YOUR BEST AND UPHOLDING THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER.

THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

MR. MOSES ESTRADA. FOLLOWED BY MISS LISA HERNANDEZ.

>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, I RESIDE AT 44805.

I'M HERE, COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT TIME TO APPOINT NEW MEMBERS OR MEMBERS TO THE -- TO SEVERAL BOARDS.

OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ALWAYS FLOODED WHENEVER IT RAINS.

THIS IS WHY I BELIEVE THAT ITEM 14 SHOULD BE IT SHALL SHOULD BE TABLED UNTIL AFTER THE GENERAL ELECTION IN NOVEMBER.

THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

MISS LISA HERNANDEZ. >> JUDGE CANALES, COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR GIVING US TIME TO SPEAK AGAIN.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 14. BEFORE I ADDRESS THAT ISSUE, THOUGH, I HAVE A CONCERN IN THE LACK OF DECORUM SHOWN BY CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THIS COURT. THERE IS BUT ONE ELECTED COUNTY JUDGE. SHE SITS CENTER COURT.

THE FOUR GENTLEMEN TO HER RIGHT AND LEFT ARE ALSO ELECTED OFFICIALS, BUT NONE OF THEM WERE ELECTED TO BE COUNTY JUDGE.

ONE OF THEM, AT LEAST, IN MEETING AFTER MEETING AFTER MEETING TRIES TO INSIST THAT HE MUST BE COUNTY JUDGE.

NOW ON TO ITEM NUMBER 14, I AS OTHER PEOPLE QUESTIONING THE TIMING OF THIS. IN THE AUGUST 29 MEETING, PART OF WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS -- AND I AM QUOTING FROM WHAT -- WHAT THE -- WHAT THE PROPOSITION SAID, THE DATE WHEN NEW MEMBERS -- OF THE COMMISSION ARE SEATED. SO WHY ARE WE NOT WAITING FOR THIS ONE? AND ITEM 14, BULLET POINT ONE.

YOU CHANGED THE LANGUAGE. YOU NOW REMEMBER TO ADD EXCEPT FOR THIS, EXCEPT FOR THAT. I AM AN EDUCATOR.

EXCEPTIONS EVENTUALLY TAKE OVER THE POLICY.

WE HAVE A POLICY OF TWO BATHROOM PASSES PER SIX WEEKS PER STUDENT. EXCEPT PREGNANT STUDENTS, EXCEPT STUDENTS ON THEIR MENSTRUAL PERIOD, EXCEPT ATHLETES WHO NEED TO DRINK A LOT OF WATER, THEREFORE NEED TO GO TO THE BATHROOM. PRETTY SOON WE HAD MORE EXEMPTIONS THAN WE DID KIDS TO FOLLOW POLICY.

THE SAME THING WILL HAPPEN WHEN START ADDING EARNINGSES TO POLICIES. AND IN ITEM -- EXEMPTIONS TO POLICIES. IN.

YOU ARE RESTRICTING 6 DAYS BEFORE AN ELECTION WHO CAN GIVE TO COME PAINS, NOT TO BENEFIT, BUT TO ELECT THE REPRESENTATIVES WE WOULD WANT TO ELECT. NOT 60 DAYS.

DO WHAT YOU DO WITH SEVERAL OTHER AGENDA ITEMS, INCLUDING GAME ROOM CONTROL, WHICH YOU HAVE BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT FOR TWO YEARS. TABLE IT.

THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

OKAY. MISS AKBAR ABA.

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NO? OKAY.

MISS RACHEL CABALLERO. >> JUDGE, SHE IS ONLINE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. >> HELLO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

>> HELLO. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, MA'AM.

>> OKAY. GREAT.

RACHEL CABELLO, 522 HANCOCK. I AM CALLING REGARDING ITEM 13 AND 14. I REALLY FEEL LIKE THIS COURT NEEDS TO HEAR WHAT THE SURFERS AND THE WATER PEOPLE ARE REQUESTING OF THE COURT. I AM REALLY CONFUSED OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A CITIZEN REQUESTING $2.5 MILLION FOR A SECOND FLOOR OF A RESTAURANT THAT IS PRIVATELY OWNED.

I AM SURE THIS FAMILY IS A WONDERFUL FAMILY, BUT IN 2020, WHEN OUR SMALL BUSINESSES WERE SHUT DOWN, UNCONSTITUTIONALLY, NONE OF THESE LOCAL SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS WERE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TOP ASK THE CHORD OR TAXPAYERS TO $#.5 MILLION TO KEEP THEIR DOORS OPEN WHICH I AM SURE THEY WOULD BE PREAPPRECIATIVE OF THAT MONEY. FOR THE SECOND FLOOR, I SAY WE KEEP IT A FIRST FLOOR AND AT SOME POINT, THE COURT COURT SHOULD EXPLAIN TO TAXPAYERS WHY AN INDIVIDUAL OWNS RESTAURANTS THAT IS BEING FUNDED BY TAXPAYERS.

THAT WHOLE SITUATION IS REALLY, REALLY CONFUSING.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS MY SUPPORT FOR ITEM 14.

I THINK IS A BENEFIT TO EVERY SINGLE COURT COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE. IF WE WANT TO STAY.

IF WE WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT A SAFE SPOT TO BE APPROVING THESE FOUR ITEMS. UNLESS WE ARE -- PEOPLE ARE DOING CORRUPT THINGS. THEN I CAN SEE THEM BEING OPPOSED TO THIS. FINALLY AS A FEMALE THAT IS STRONG AND INTELLIGENT. I AM NOT A FAN OF THE COURT USING WHY THE FOUR ITEMS WERE BEING PRESENTED.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SEX, BUT EVERYTHING TO DO WITH TRANSPARENCY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY HERE IN THIS COUNTY. I APPRECIATE THE TIME.

THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE MR. LEROY BRANCH. ITCH MAY BE WRONG.

IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE BRANCH AGAIN.

MAYBE IS IT -- BARK? I THINK I HAVE THE LAST NAME INCORRECT. IT IS HARD TO READ THE PENMANSHIP. WE WILL HOLD.

HOW ABOUT MR. WALL WALSH. IS THERE A MR. OR MRS. WALSH?

>> GOOD MORNING. I THINK IT IS STILL MORNING.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IT'S -- >> COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE.

I'M HERE TO DISCUSS THE HOURS -- I AM LINDA WALSH, 1254 CRUISER STREET ON PADRE ISLAND AND I ALSO HAVE BEEN A JUDGE AT THE POLLS FOR PADRE ISLAND FOR FOUR YEARS OR MORE.

WE LOVE DOING THIS. WE HAVE A REAL GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT I CAN COUNT ON AS -- YOU I THINK IT WAS RITA SAID, SHE IS PUSHING 70. I AM 72, AND THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR MME AGE AGE IS PROBABLY 70 AND I HAVE THEM UP TO 78 YEARS OLD. AND 14-HOUR DAYS ARE PRETTY TOUGH FOR ALL OF US. I AM JUST HERE TO SAY THAT I THINK -- OR I FEEL THAT WE VERY PLENTY OF TIME FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO VOTE TO VOTE. WE ARE OPEN EVERY SATURDAY.

THE SATURDAYS ARE 7 TO 7:00. SUNDAYS HERE AT THE COURTHOUSE.

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AND I CAN PROBABLY COUNT ON ONE HAND THE FIRST WEEK HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOW UP BY 7 IN THE MORNING OR 7:00 IN THE EVENING.

AND IT IS JUST -- WHEN YOU ARE TALKING 14 HOURS, A LONG DAY FOR ANYBODY IF WE KEEP IT WHERE IT IS, 8 TO 5 AND HAVE THE SECOND WEEK 7 TO 7 TOUGH ENOUGH BUT GET PEOPLE TO WORK AT THE POLLS -- I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED. YOUNGER PEOPLE WORKING UNABLE TO PUT THE TIME IN. THANK GOD FOR ALL OF OUR RETIREES THAT MAN ALL THESE BOOTHS.

JUST TAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER ON US.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE -- CAN YOU BRING JUAN PIMENTAL.

CAN YOU CALL HIM IN. IF HE IS HERE.

IF NOT I WILL TABLE IT -- I WILL GO NEXT MEETING.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THERE ARE SOME MORE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO SEEN UP. OKAY.

WE WILL PASS IT RIGHT BACK, KAR ASA

-- >> HE'S COMING.

HE WENT TO HIS OFFICE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SORRY?

>> HE HAD GONE TO HIS OFFICE, BUT HE IS COMING BACK.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL LET YOU PASS IT BACK, KARA.

IF YOU DON'T MIND. GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. HERE HE COMES.

JUST TO GIVE EVERYBODY A LITTLE NOTICE.

WHEN WE FINISH PUBLIC COMMENT SHORTLY AND PRIOR TO GOING STRAIGHT INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE WILL TAKE JUST A -- A BATHROOM BREAK AND COME RIGHT BACK TO COURT.

JUST TO PREPARE EVERYBODY. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: JUAN, I JUST -- FOR THE RECORD.

I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT -- I DON'T SPEAK FOR THE WHOLE COMMISSIONERS COURT, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU ARE VERY KIND WHEN YOU SAY ONE MEMBER OF THE COURT, BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE GET US CONFUSE AND DON'T KNOW WHICH MEMBER OF THE COURT.

WE HAVE BEEN THERE BEFORE WHEN THERE WAS A LAWSUIT FILED AGAINST COASTAL PARKS DIRECTOR AND EVERYBODY THOUGHT IT WAS ALL OF US AND ONLY THE JUDGE. I KNOW THE JUDGE WAS THE ONE THAT ATTACKED YOU, YOUR FAMILIAR.

AND I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT I APOLOGIZE TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR WHAT YOU WENT THROUGH. YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE GONE THROUGH THAT. THERE WAS NO REASON FOR YOU TO GO -- IT WAS POOR CALL. SHOULD HAVE DONE HOW THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. SHOULD HAVE LET THE LAWSUIT GO TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. AND EVERY TIME IT FAILS, WE HAVE -- WE HAVE TO PAY THE PRICE. PEOPLE HERE IN THIS AUDIENCE NEED TO KNOW THAT THINGS HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR APPROVAL. AND YOU DO THINGS WITHOUT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT'S APPROVAL, THEN WE HAVE -- WE HAVE TO ANSWER LATER ON. I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT ON MY BEHALF, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO YOU, MR. PIMENTAL.

I AM SORRY THAT YOU WENT THROUGH.

YOU ARE AN ATTACK ON YOUR HUSBAND, YOU ARE RIGHT.

AND A PERSONAL ATTACK. I BLAME A LOT ON RISK MANAGEMENT FOR DOING A POOR JOB FROM THE BEGINNING.

RISK MANAGEMENT SHOULD HAVE NEVER GONE WHERE IT WENT.

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IT SHOULD HAVE VETTED IT. THE JUDGE SHOULD HAVE VET IT.

WHEN I SPOKE TO THE RANGERS, THEY TOLD ME THERE WAS NOTHING THERE. NOTHING FURTHER TO LOOK AT.

THERE WAS NOTHING EVEN TO CONSIDER.

SO, AGAIN, IT WAS ANOTHER ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN BY THE JUDGE AGAINST YOU. AND I -- AND I CALL THAT A PERSONAL ATTACK. AND I WANT TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT I AM SORRY THAT IT HAPPENED.

AND HOPE WE CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER.

YOU AND YOUR STAFF WERE CRITICIZED.

AT ONE POINT YOU WERE CALLED A CRIMINAL.

YOU WERE CALLED A FRAUD. AND THAT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN EITHER. SO PEOPLE IN THIS AUDIENCE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT TOO. THAT THINGS HAPPEN THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT. AND JUST WHY WHEN YOU COME HERE AND CRITICIZE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMISSIONERS COURT AND DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU NEED TO KNOW.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SIT HERE AND CRITICIZE US ALL YOU WANT, BUT YOU ARE RIGHT, WE ARE ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE TO DO A JOB.

WE ARE GOING TO DO THE JOB. AND, JUAN, I WANT TO TELL YOU YOU ARE DOING A TREMENDOUS JOB. YOU HAVE SAVED THIS COUNTY A LOT OF MONEY. AND YOU MIGHT NOT I AGREE HE WITH US HALF OF THE TIME OR MAY NOT AGREE WITH THE JUDGE, AND THE JUDGE MAY NOT AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I COMMEND YOU ON THE JOB YOU ARE DOING AS A NUECES COUNTY EVENING NEARING FOR THIS COUNTY. I APPLAUD YOU FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES FOR STICKING UP FOR YOU. FOR BEING WITH US WITH THE JOB THAT YOU DO. THEY WERE CRITICIZED AND SHOULDN'T NEVER BE CRITICIZED. HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONTINUE FORWARD WITH PUT THINGS BEHIND US AND SAME THING FOR YOUR FAMILY. MAY GOD BE WITH YOU AND WILL

CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: JUAN, I ALSO WANT TOP SHINE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ARE YOU SIGNING UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: MAY YOU, PLEASE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL PUT YOU DOWN.

GO AHEAD. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: JUAN, I ALSO WANT TO SHARE WHAT THE COMMISSIONERS JUST SAID.

I WILL NOT GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THIS I THINK.

I SUPPORT YOU ALONG THE WAY. I REALLY APPRECIATE -- WHEN I CAME IN HERE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH DRAINAGE.

PEOPLE WERE CALLING ME. I WAS NEW TO THE JOB.

THE FIRST ONE THAT I CALLED WAS YOU AND JERRY THAT I NEEDED YOUR HELP IN EVALUATING THE PROBLEMS IN MY PRECINCT.

RIGHT AWAY YOU DID THAT. WE GOT TO WORK.

YOU SAID WE NEED SOME -- WE WENT OUT IN SAN ANTONIO AND RENTED TWO AND WE GOT THE JOB DONE. I APPRECIATE YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOUR STAFF. YOU ALWAYS HAVE BEEN THERE -- YOU ALWAYS HAVE DONE WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR COUNTY.

EVEN IF YOU TELL ME, NO, COMMISSIONER, YOU CAN'T DO THIS.

YOU CAN'T DO THAT. AND AS FAR AS JERRY'S CONCERN, I THINK I AM AWARE THAT ILLEGAL DRIVEWAY, JERRY.

AND I THINK I TOLD YOU ALL TO BARRICADE IT WITH A LOAD OF DIRT

SO THEY CAN'T MOVE IT . >>JUDGE CANALES: MISS DORSEY.

>> THE COMMENTS OF COMMISSIONERS IN RESPONSE TO COMMENTS IN OPEN COMMENT ARE TO BE A STATEMENT OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION GIVEN A RESPONSE AND RECITAL OF POLICY AND RESPONSE OR ANY

NOTICE THAT ITEMS -- >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I APOLOGIZE. I WITHDRAW.

MY APOLOGIES TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. WE WILL MOVE ON IT TO MR. GEORGE EDWARDS, FOLDS BY MR. JIM QUIZEN BER

BERRY. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE,

COMMISSIONERS. >>JUDGE CANALES: GOOD MORNING.

>> MY NAME IS GEORGE EDWARDS. I LIVE 4506 CANYON LAKE CIRCLE.

I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ABOUT ITEM 14.

YES, WE ALL DISAGREE AND WE ALL AGREE, BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I AM EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED IN THE -- IN COMMISSIONER CHESNEY FOR PUTTING SUCH A POLITICAL ITEM ON THIS AGENDA.

YOU ALL ARE ELECTED TO WORK FOR US, THE PEOPLE OF NUECES COUNTY.

INSTEAD OF TARGETING PEOPLE THAT SIT BESIDES YOU.

JUDGE CANALES IS THE ONLY ONE SITTING ON THIS COURT WHO HAS AN OPPONENT THIS NOVEMBER. YOU WILL NOT CONVINCE ME THAT THIS AGENDA ITEM NOTHING MORE THAN A POLITICAL STUNT.

THESE TYPE OF CHANGES SHOULD HAVE BEEN ENACTED BEFORE

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CAMPAIGN SEASON STARTED. IT IS ALMOST ELECTION DAY, 45 SOME ODD DAYS AWAY FROM EARLY VOTING.

MAKE A SENSIBLE DECISION MAKE A SENSIBLE DECISION I AM ASKING YOU COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, MAREZ AND GONZALEZ TO VOTE AGAIN 14. THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME.

>> THANK YOU. MR. JIM QUIZENBERRY.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON -- GOOD MORNING.

I GUESS IT IS STILL MORNING. THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. MY NAME IS JIM QUIZENBERRY.

I -- I LOOK ALL YOUR FACES AND I UNDERSTAND THAT SURFING TO YOU ALL DONE MEAN MUCH AT ALL. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED BARBARA -- JUDGE, THAT YOU ARE FROM A BASEBALL CLAN, THE CANALES CLAN.

SOME OF YOU PROBABLY DON'T SURF AND SOME HEAR THE SURFERS' COMMENTS THAT THEY ARE JUST SURFERS AND DON'T REALLY CARE THAT MUCH. BUT IN TERMS OF WHO I AM AND MY EDUCATION, I AM A GEOLOGIST. I STUDY STRUCTURES.

I DO NOT BELIEVE FOR THE CITIZENS OF GORGEOUS CHRISSI AND THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY, I DO NOT BELIEVE IN THIS DESIGN.

I MENTIONED THIS AT THE MEETING AT THE PAVILION ONE TIME.

THIS DESIGN IS GOING TO FAIL. I HAVE COME HERE TODAY TO BE ON RECORD AND IT WILL FAIL, A T-DESIGN WILL NEVER WORK.

A SINGLE PILING DESIGN WI WITH SHEAR, 20-FOOT WAVES WILL FAIL AND WILL COST $28 MILLION TO LITERALLY BE DUMPED INTO THE OCEAN. I ASK THAT YOU RECONSIDER, EVEN GAIN A SECOND PROPOSAL WHERE CITIZENS CAN GIVE THEIR INPUT ON WHICH DESIGN CAN BE BETTER. AS IT IS NOW, YOU COMMISSIONERS MAKE THE DECISION. THIS DECISION IS GOING TO BE MADE, PROBABLY TODAY REGARDLESS OF WHAT ALL THESE SURFERS HAVE SAID. I COME TO YOU AS SURFER.

I AM A SURFER, BUT ALSO I AM A FISHERMEN.

I DOVE UNDERNEATH THAT PIER WITH TWO PILINGS AND I HAVE SEEN HUGE FISH. THIS WILL NOT EXIST WITH A LARGER SPAN AND ONE SINGLE PILING SYSTEM.

AGAIN, I COME AS A CITIZEN AND NOT AT A SURFER.

I SURF. I AM ALSO A PHOTOGRAPHER.

YOU MAY NOT MAY NOT KNOW THAT TWO DAYS OUT OF THE YEAR, THE SUN WILL LINE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF BOB HALL PIER WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET A PICTURE OF THE SUN ALL THE WAY THROUGH THAT PIER. THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN FOR ANOTHER PHOTOGRAPHER ONCE YOU I PROVE THIS NEW DESIGN.

BUT IT WILL BE GREAT FOR ME BECAUSE I CAN ALWAYS SELL THE PICTURE CAN OF THE PIER THAT I OWN THE COPYRIGHT TO AND I NEVER SEEN ANOTHER ONE LIKE IT. SO, AGAIN, I IMPLORE TO YOU MAKE A DECISION WITH CITIZENS IN MIND AND BUDGET IN MIND.

IF IT COSTS FIVE MORE MILLION DOLLARS TO TAKE IT TO THE ENGINEERING FIRM AND PUT THAT TO THE CITIZENS.

THIS IS NOT FOR LOCALS. THIS IS DESIGNED FOR TWO.

LOCATION WANT TO FISH. THIS PIER WILL NOT BE FISH WORTHY. AND LOCALS WANT TO SURF.

WHAT IS GOOD FOR A PIER WITH NO FISH OR NO WAVES.

A JOKE. A FAILURE.

PEOPLE WHO VISIT CORPUS CHRISTI WILL HAVE A NICE PLACE TO GO.

BUT YOUR LOCATION YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN ABOUT.

YOU ARE FORGIVEN ABOUT THEM IN THIS DESIGN AND ALL I ASK THAT YOU GIVE US A SECOND OPTION SO WE CAN VOTE ON ONE OF THE OTHER.

HIRE ANOTHER FIRM. IT IS GOING TO COST MONEY.

OF COURSE IT WILL 37 BUT THIS WILL COST US A LOT OF MONEY AND FAIL TO THE TUNE OF $28. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. NOW WE WILL HEAR FROM RE RENEE SEINZ FOLLOWED BY MISS SYLVIA CAMPOS.

>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY.

MY NOTES. APOLOGIZE.

I WANTED TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE OF THE EARLY VOTING.

>>JUDGE CANALES: FORGIVE ME. IF YOU GET THIS A LITTLE CLOSER.

OUR MICROPHONE IS -- >> YEAH, DISCUSS THE ISSUE OF THE EARLY VOTING.BY CERTAINLY HEARD THE CONCERNS OF THOSE WHO ARE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST WEEK WOULD BE DEVASTATING TO THEM.

IT WILL BE REAL HARD OR THEM. THE SECOND WEEK WILL BE REALLY HARD ON THEM AS WELL. I GET THAT.

I MEAN, A LOT OF THEM ARE OLDER AND SO FORTH AND SO ON, BUT WE

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CAN USE STUDENTS. WE GET THREE DAYS OF ABSENCES BY STATE LAW. EXCUSED ABSENCES.

AND I KNOW I HAVE DEALT W WITH KARA SANDS BEFORE AND UTILIZED MY STUDENTS AT MOODY HIGH SCHOOL.

THEY HAVE WORKED FOR HER. THEY COULD BE CLERKS.

THEY HAVE THAT RIGHT BY STATE LAW.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ARE NOT BEING UTILIZED THIS TIME, BUT -- BUT THEY SHOULD. IN FACT A PROGRAM SHOULD BE SET UP, BUT IT IS NOT. WHAT I CAN SAY FROM THAT, IF IT IS NOT 7 TO 7:00, WHY NOT MAKE IT FROM 8 TO 6:00.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DO MAKE IT FROM 8 TO 5:00.

OKAY. SO IT DOES BECOME COMPLICATEDED TO GET TO A LOCATION AT 5 O'CLOCK.

OF COURSE IF YOU WORK AT THE COURTHOUSE OR THE CITY.

BOTH OF THOSE ARE EARLY VOTING LOCATIONS.

YOU CAN VOTE. AND IF YOU ARE AN EDUCATOR AND REALLY, REALLY COMPLICATED THAT FIRST WEEK AND OR IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER JOB. SO MAYBE YOU CAN CONSIDER DOING IT FROM 8:00 TO 6:00 RATHER FROM 7 O'CLOCK AS AN OPTION.

JUST SOMETHING I AM THROWING IT OUT TO YOU ALL.

ALSO, I WANTED TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE OF SOME OF THE VOTING SITES AND THE ONE MENTIONED. AND IT MIGHT BE NICE, BUT I HAD REQUESTED THAT MILLER HIGH SCHOOL BE LOOKED AT AS AN OPTION. IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH MILLER HIGH SCHOOL. YOU TAKE A RIGHT TURN AND YOU WILL BE RIGHT THERE IN THE -- IN THE LIBRARY WHICH IS WHERE I BELIEVE VOTING TAKES PLACE ANY INTPD WAY.

SO THAT SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE. IF YOU LOOK AT THESE EARLY VOTING LOCATIONS AND YOU PUT IT ON, SAY, GOOGLE MAPS.

AND YOU START TO PIN THOSE LOCATIONS YOU SEE THE TWO GAPS INTO TWO AREAS. IN THE RAY AREA AND IN THE MILLER AREA. I AM ASKING YOU TO INCLUDE MILLER HIGH SCHOOL AND THE DEL MAR SENTER.

I LIKE IT AT RAY HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE I LOVE IT FOR STUDENTS TO GO OUT AND VOTE. BUT I THINK THAT THE DEL MAR SMALL BUSINESS CENTER. I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT IT IS REFERRED TO COULD BE A REALLY GOOD PLACE FOR ANOTHER EARLY VOTING SITE. SO IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, KINDS OF FILL THE HOLES THAT ARE LEFT THERE, I THINK THAT THESE TWO LOCATIONS WOULD BE GOOD TO PLUG IN.

SO THAT IS WHAT I AM LOOKING TO ADDRESS.

AND IF YOU COULD MOVE -- IF YOU CAN PASS THIS, 7-7 WILL BE MORE IDEA. BUT IF NOT, 8 TO 6, GIVE THE WORKING PERSON -- WORKING MAN AND WOMAN THAT WORKS TO 5 P.M.

THAT OPPORTUNITY THAT FIRST WEEK TO GO AND VOTE.

AND I WILL SAY, MISS SANDS, CONSIDER LOOKING AT THOSE STUDENTS AGAIN, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY WILL WORK.

THEY ARE EXCUSED ABSENCES AND THEY LOVE TO GET PAID.

AND THEY ARE SMART WITH TECHNOLOGY.

THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

MISS SYLVIA CAMPOS.

>>. >> I GUESS IT IS STILL GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS COURT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING US, THE PEOPLE TO MAKE THESE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IT IS REFRESHING TO SEE SO MANY PARTICIPATE IN THIS TYPE OF DEMOCRACY. AND I -- I'M HERE TO -- OH -- ADDRESS, RIGHT. SYLVIA CAMPOS, 4510.

I ALSO WANTED TO SPEAK ON ITEM 10.

I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF -- THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS. AND BOARD MEMBER AS WELL.

BUT I DO NOT SPEAK FOR THE LEAGUE.

I JUST WANT TO, FIRST OF ALL, TH THANKSKARA SANDS AND HER STAFF. I FORGET THE NAME.

BUT WHEN I COME HERE I SEE SOME OF THE FAMILIAR FACES AND I AM VERY GRATEFUL AND SO ARE SO MANY.

THANK YOU, KARA. I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THE ELECTION WORKERS AND THE ELECTION JUDGES BECAUSE IT DOES TAKE A LOT AND DOES TAKE A TOLL. BUT THINK ABOUT THIS.

THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU PROVIDE FOR DEMOCRACY.

I CAN TELL THAT YOU I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN -- AS LONG I REMEMBER, THE SECOND WEEK HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FOR THE WORKING-CLASS.

AND WE KIND OF LABELED IT THAT WAY.

DO YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THAT WAS ALWAYS THE SECOND WEEK IT WAS EXTENDED HOURS.

AND THAT WAS THE SECOND WEEK THAT YOU ALSO HAD MORE PEOPLE PARTICIPATING. AND SO THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING. WE ARE ASKING FOR MORE

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PARTICIPATION. WHEN WE WERE HERE LAST WEEK, TIM DOWLING AND I, IT WAS REFRESHING TO SEE THE WHOLE COMMISSIONERS COURT SAY, YES, LET'S DO THIS. LET'S BE CONSISTENT.

7-7:00. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE FIND OUT LATER THAT -- THAT MAY NOT BE THE POSSIBILITY.

I ALSO -- HE GUESS I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THE JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS COURT SET POLICY, AND THEN IT WAS DONE, YOU KNOW, BY -- YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU DEEM, BUT I DIDN'T CONSIDER THAT KARA SANDS POSITION WAS AN ELECTED POSITION.

SO I GUESS I AM SORT OF IN LIMBO HERE.

I GUESS I DO AGREE THAT KARA I THINK SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE AND WOULD HAVE CONTRIBUTED. WE WOULD HAVE KNOWN RIGHT THEN AND THERE. I THINK THAT KARA WILL CONTINUE TO BE OPEN-MINDED. BECAUSE I HEARD THERE ARE SOME POLLING LOCATIONS THAT WILL STAY UNTIL 7:00.

AND I THINK IT WILL BE ACCOMMODATING TO GO AHEAD -- I DON'T REALLY THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHAT THOSE HOURS AND WHERE THOSE POLLING LOCATIONS ARE. SO WE HAVE TIME RIGHT NOW.

WE CAN PUBLISH THOSE DATES AND TIMES RIGHT NOW.

YOU KNOW THE HOURS. AND LET EVERYONE KNOW.

BUT I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE FOR THE FIRST WEEK TO EXTEND THOSE HOURS. AGAIN WHAT RENEE MENTIONED ABOUT STUDENTS AND OTHER PEOPLE HELP WITH ELECTIONS.

I ALSO WANT TO GIVE OUT A SHOUT OUT TO THE BROKEN CHAINS.

BECAUSE JUST IN MY LAST WEEKEND, I SPOKE TO SOME EX-FELONS THAT THOUGHT THEY COULD NOT VOTE. SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN AS LONG AS 15 YEARS THAT THEY ALREADY FINISHED AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY COO VOTE. EVEN THEY CAN BE RECRUITED TO POSSIBLY HELP OUT WITH ELECTIONS.

BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT, WE ALL NEED JOBS.

AND FOR THOSE TWO WEEKS, WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND BRING MORE DEMOCRACY INTO OUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING TO ME. APPRECIATE IT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONERS, I AM GOING TO ASK BUT I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE MORNING, BOTH

ONLINE AND -- >> JUDGE CANALES, I WOULD LIKE

TO SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >>JUDGE CANALES: SURE.

ALSO REMEMBER WE WILL HAVE THE ITEMS -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO IT AT THIS TIME.

>> ACTUALLY I WOULD LIKE TO SINCE IT IS FRESH IN EVERYONE'S

MIND. >>JUDGE CANALES: MAYBE THEY HAVE TO LEAVE AS WELL. BUT I FIGURED YOU WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY DURING THE AGENDA ITEMS.

SO PLEASE GO AHEAD. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE SHOWING UP. THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE SHOWING UP FOR THIS ITEM. ACTUALLY EVERYONE FOR MAKING PUBLIC COMMENT, RIGHT, FOR ANY ITEM.

THAT IS GREAT. GREAT TO SEE INVOLVEMENT AND I KNOW THE COMMISSIONERS APPRECIATE IT AND SO DO I.

THE TIMES ARE SET UP BY LAW. THE COMMISSIONERS CAN EXTEND THEM. NOW FOR EARLY VOTING, HAVING SOME LOCATIONS AT DIFFERENT TIMES, WE CAN'T DO THAT BY STATE LAW, BUT CAN'T HAVE SOME LOCATIONS FROM 8 TO 6 AND SOME FROM 8 TO 5. THEY ALL NEED TO BE OPEN STATEMENT FOR CONSISTENCY. I SPOKE TO MR. DOWLING AND THAT IS FOR THE FIRST WEEK, 7 TO 7: 7:00. CHANGING THE TIME FOR ALL OF, LIKE, LOGISTICALLY TRYING TO GET THE LOCATIONS THAT SAID, NO, WE CAN'T REALLY ACCOMMODATE YOU. 7 TO 7:00 BECAUSE IT WASN'T PLANNED THAT WAY. RIGHT.

WE PLANNED -- WE ALWAYS HAD IT FROM 8 TO 5:00.

AND THAT GONE IN -- WHEN WE ASKED TO USE THE LOCATIONS -- SO THAT IS IMPORTANT. THAT ON THE FRONT END, WE SAY, HEY, 8 TO 5 AND 7 TO 7:00. YOU NEED TO KEEP IN MIND WE ARE GUESTS AT THEIR HOMES. WE ARE GOING INTO THEIR PLACE OF BUSINESS. AND THEY ARE ALREADY ACCOMMODATE US FROM 7 TO 7:00. SOMETIMES FROM 6 -- SOME PLACES TO 10:00 AND 9:00 ON ELECTION NIGHT.

SO THE LAST MINUTE, CHANGE IT AND WITH THE WORKERS, I DON'T THINK THAT IS RIGHT. AND THAT IS JUST NOT FAIR, BUT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING TO WORK FORWARD TOWARD IN 2024.

TO GET READY FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL IS DOING 7 TO 7:00 ON BOTH. BUT RIGHT NOW PAUSE SOME OF THE LOCATIONS AGAIN CANNOT ACCOMMODATE US, YOU HAVE TO HAVE UNIFORM. AND WHEN WE -- WHEN WE RECRUITED FROM LISTS FOR EARLY VOTING WORKERS, FROM THE LISTS OF -- FROM THE DEMOCRATIC CHAIR AND THE REPUBLICAN CHAIR, THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT WERE HERE AND HAD TO LEAVE THAT THEY ALSO TALKED

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ABOUT, HEY, IT IS A BIG DEAL FOR THE 7 TO 7:00.

THOSE HOURS. WITH THE STUDENT ELECTION CLERK PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE -- THAT IMPLEMENTED WHEN I CAME INTO INFORMATION, 500 STUDENTS WORK WHICH IS AMAZING.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP, MR.SEINZ.

I HAVE GONE TO YOUR OFFICE AND CLASSROOM SEVERAL TIMES.

I LOVE GETTING STUDENTS. THAT IS IMPLEMENTED EVERY ELECTION AND I WILL BE GOING AROUND TO ALL THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND REKROO OUT THEM. MAYBE I CAN COME TO YOUR CLASSROOM AGAIN. THAT WILL BE GREAT BECAUSE YOU REALLY HAVE AWESOME STUDENTS. AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO RECRUIT THEM. BUT STUDENTS, THEY GET TWO DAYS OFF THAT THEY CAN GET AN EXCUSED ABSENCE BY STATE LAW AS M MR. SEINZ POINTED OUT. A LOT OF THEM CAN WORK ELECTION DAY. YOU HAVE ONE THAT WORKS ALL DAY.

NOT ENOUGH STUDENTS THAT CAN BE FILL IN ALL OF EARLY VOTING FOR THOSE HOURS. BUT THAT ALSO -- EVEN IF WE DID AND YOU ARE STILL THE LEAD, THE EARLY VOTING CLERK IN CHARGE OF THAT LOCATION HAS TO STAY THERE THE ENTIRE TIME.

THAT IS ANOTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND.

YOU CAN'T REPLACE THOSE LEAVES WITH STUDENTS.

BUT, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE AND THE CALLS AND I LOVE THE DIALOGUE, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE ARE -- WITH THE STUDENT ELECTION CLERKS AND THE TIMES AS WELL.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. SO AT THIS TIME, COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE JUST A VERY SMALL -- AS THEY SAY EVERYBODY STAY HERE. A VERY SMALL BATHROOM BREAK.

MOTION -- I WOULD LIKE A SECOND. SECOND.

AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THE TIME FOR THE CLERK IS 11:17. AGAIN, JUST PLEASE COME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SGLI

>>JUDGE CANALES: AND WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IS -- OUT OF GREAT RESPECT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT -- THERE IS AN ITEM.

WE WILL GET TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING -- THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE WILL GET TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT AWAY, BUT FIRST, I

[1. Receive update on Metrocom activities, including budget requests for FY22-23.]

WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO 3-A-1. RECEIVING AN UPDATE ON METROCOM ACTIVITY AND BUDGET REQUEST. WE THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT AS WE ARE ABOUT TO DISCUSS BUDGET AND GO INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WELCOME YOU, OFFICER, THANK YOU.

>> THANKS. RIGHT THERE.

AND THE MI C, IS BEING FINNICLY. >> CORPUS CHRISTI POLICE DEPARTMENT. CHIEF OF POLICE.

THE OVERSIGHT OF METROCOM AND I'M HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU THE UPDATE ON OUR METROCOM AS WE REVIEWED IN THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEES AND WITH THE JUDGE AND THE MAYOR.

IF WE CAN GET THAT UP. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, CHIEF. WE WILL GET IT UP FOR YOU HERE.

THERE WE GO. METROCOM IS THE POLICE APP.

WE DO 911 CALLS NOT ONLY FOR CORPUS CHRISTI BUT NUECES COUNTY. AND WE HAVE ESDS AND MEDICAL RESPONSES THAT WE ALSO WORK WITH.

WE BRING ON BISHOP. DRISCOL.

DEL MAR IS LOOK TO JOIN US ALSO. THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE AS DECIDED BY OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH NUECES COUNTY IS COMPRISE $MYSELF APPOINTED BY THE CHIEF OF POLICE, CHIEF RICHARD QUINTERO. EDDIE HOULIHAN BUDGET DIRECTOR OF CORPUS CHRISTI. TERESA M[L]CELMORE APPOINTED BY THE JUDGE. CHIEF MICHAEL FLAT OF FIRE CHIEF AND APPOINTED BY THE JUDGE AND CHIEF DAVID COOK, NUECES COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT APPOINTED BY THE SHERIFF AND PETER COLLINS IS THE COMMITTEE APPOINTED CHAIRMAN AND APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR AND THE JUDGE. NEXT.

SO TO GET INTO IT REAL QUICK, AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY. WE ARE 50/350 PARTNERS ON METROCOM. THE POPULATION BREAKDOWN IS 90/10. 2020, WE LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF INCIDENTS THROUGH METROCOM, 580,000 CALLS.

2020, 89% WERE THROUGH CORPUS CHRISTI.

11% THROUGH NUECES COUNTY. WHICH GAVE US A PRO RATIO BREAKDOWN OF 76% TO 24%. 76% OF THE BUDGET WAS FUNDED BY THE CITY AND 24% WAS FUNDED BY THE COUNTY.

THIS YEAR, WE DID A REALLOCATION -- A REASSESSMENT.

WE NODE THAT 90% OF THE CALLS ARE COMING TO THE CITY.

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10% ARE GOING TO THE COUNTY, WHICH REDUCED THE RATE TO THE COUNTY BY -- TO 23% AND RAISE IT FOR THE CITY TO 77%.

NEXT. SO THIS IS OUR BUDGET.

IT IS KIND OF HARD TO SEE, BUT THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGED REALLY IN THE BUDGET, IF YOU LOOK AT THE RED -- KIND OF HARD TO READ IF YOU ARE TOO FAR BACK, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO DO IS INCENTIVIZE OUR METROCOM EMPLOYEES AND CREATE AN ATMOSPHERE WHERE THEY CAN COME AND GROW AND MAKE GOOD EMPLOYEES TO SERVICE OUR COMMUNITY. ONE OF THOSE IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER PAY, WE DID INCENTIVE PAY AND FOR DISPATCHERS IN CHARGE AND WE CALL THEM "FIELD TRAINING OFFICERS" IN THE POLICE BUT "DISPATCH TRAINING OFFICERS" IN METROCOM.

AND I WILL GO INTO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.

IF YOU LOOK AT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, THAT WENT DOWN $1.

THE REASON THAT BEING WE HAD MONEY IN THERE LAST YEAR FOR UPGRADE TO THE CAD RMS SYSTEM. WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF COMPLETING THAT. THAT NUMBER HAS BEEN TO FINISH THROUGH AND WE WILL FINISH APRIL TO MAY OF NEXT YEAR WHICH IS WHY WE WILL CERTIFY AND GO LIVE AND REDUCED OF THE BUDGET WHICH IS $1 MILLION. THE NEXT ONE IS THE TELEGRAPH -- THE SERVICES YOU WILL SEE AN INCREASE IN METROCOM SYSTEM, MANDATED BY THE GOVERNMENT AND WE HAVE A GRANT THAT HELPS ESTABLISH THE BACKBONE OF IT, BUT THE INCREASE TO HELP US OFFSET THE COST. AT&T CHARGES ABOUT $6,000 FOR THE SERVICES OF 911. WHEN WE GO TO NEXT GEN, THE NET SERVICE INCREASES TODAY 38,000. SO YOU HAVE ABOUT A $32,000 DIFFERENCE IN MONTHLY FEE HAS IN WE WILL HAVE TO -- WE WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THESE IN THE NEXT GEN.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS COST OF TRAVEL.

I AM SURE EVERYBODY PUT FUEL IN THEIR TANK LATELY.

IT IS NOT CHEAP. AS WE SEND FOLKS OUT TO SCHOOLS AND TO CONFERENCES, IT IS COSTING A LITTLE BIT MORE TO SEND THEM TRAVEL-WISE AND INCREASE $5,000.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE BUDGET BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR IS $41,000 INCREASE.

NEXT. SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR PROPOSED BUDGET, IN 2022, THAT WAS HE CAN BREA BREAK-DOWN.

6.3 FOR THE CITY. 1.9 FOR THE COUNTY.

THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES 73 TO 23.

6.4 FOR THE CITY. 1.9 FOR THE COUNTY.

YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE. IT WENT UP CITY ABOUT $114,000.

DOWN FOR THE COUNTY ABOUT $73,000.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THE TOTAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR IS $41,000. NE NEXT. THE DISPATCHER INCENTIVE PAY.

OUR DISPATCHERS IN CHARGE. WHAT THOSE ARE ARE DISPATCHERS BEEN WITH US FOR A WHILE. THEY HAVE BEEN COMPETENT AND CAPABLE ON THEIR ABILITIES. WHEN WE HAVE SUPERVISOR THAT HAVE TO LEAVE THE FLOOR FOR WHATEVER REASON, A MEETING OR HAVE TO ADDRESS A DISCIPLINARY ISSUE AND GET CALLED INTO A CONFERENCE. WE HAVE MEETINGS ON A REGULAR BASIS. WE LIKE TO HAVE THE DISPATCHER IN CHARGE, TAKE OVER THE FLOOR AND MANAGE THE OPERATIONS OF METROCOM SO WE DON'T MISS A BEAT AND HAVE GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE.

WE WANT IS HAVE PEOPLE WHO DO THE JOB AND THOSE FOLKS WOULD LIKE THE PAY FOR HAVING THE EXTRA WORK ON THEM.

WE ARE OFFERING THAT UP. WE HAVE SIX PEOPLE PUTTING INTO SO FAR AND WILL START OCTOBER 1. THE DISPATCH TRAINING INCENTIVE FOR OUR DISPATCH TRAINING OFFICERS OR FIELD DISPATCH OFFICERS. WHEN WE BRING A DISPATCHER ON, THEY SPEND THE FIRST SIX WEEKS LEARNING THE COMPUTER SIDE OF THINGS. IN THE CLASSROOM ENVIRONMENT.

ONCE THEY GO INTO THE CLASSROOM ENVIRONMENT THEY GO INTO METROCOM AND OULOJT. THEY ARE WITH THE TRAINER THE WHOLE TIME THEY ARE IN THERE WITH THE STATIONS.

TO INCENTIVIZE OUR TRAINERS TO BE THE BEST TRAINERS THEY COULD BE. PUT TOGETHER A COURSE LIKE A POLICE OFFICER WOULD GO THROUGH TO GET THEM TRAINED UP HOW TO EVALUATE, CORRECT AND TRAIN. WE PUT TOGETHER AN INCENTIVE PACK FOJ FOR THAT. WE HAD OUT OF THE 16 POSITIONS, WE HAD 12 PEOPLE APPLY SO PAR. TRAINING STARTS FOR THEM NEXT WEEK AND WILL TEACH THEM HOW TO BE THE PROPER TRAINERS TO GET PEOPLE JAND UP IN METROCOM TO HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT NO ONLY HAVE LONGEVITY. SO THE NEXT GEN 911.

WITHOUT GETTING TECHNICAL OF IT RIGHT NOW.

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TWO SOURCES TO CONTACT US EITHER THE CELL PHONE OR THE LAND LINE PHONE. IF IT IS LAND LINE GOES THROUGH AT&T AND HITS A ROUTER THAT TELLS YOUR LOCATION.

IF YOU ARE ON A CELL PHONE AND YOU CALL AND HITS THE TOWER, IT WILL TRIANGULATE YOUR POSITION WITHIN 1,000 FEET ON A GOOD DAY.

IF YOU ARE IN A RURAL AREA OR OUTSIDE OF CORPUS CHRISTI OR IN AN AREA THAT HAS NOT BEEN PUT INTO THE MAPPING SYSTEM.

AND YOU CALL US, WE HAVE A HARD TIME LOCATING MEDICAL SERVICES, FIRE SERVICES, POLICE SERVICES. SO WHAT THIS DOES IS IT TAKES A MAP -- A GIS MAP -- IT IS ALREADY CREATED AND MAKE SURE IT MEETS THE QUALIFICATIONS. WE WORK WITH CO GOSHGZ MAKE SURE THE COUNTY SIDE IS UP TO DATE. WE PUT THE MAPPING SYSTEM IN THE SOFTWARE OF AT&T. HITS THE TOWER AND GOES TO THE SATELLITE AND WILL GIVE YOU COORDINATES IF NOT AT THE ADDRESS AND PUT US EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE STANDING.

REALLY BENEFICIAL IN THE RURAL COMMUNITIES WHERE YOU MAY BE ON FARMLAND OR SOMEWHERE YOU DON'T HAVE AN EXACT ACCESS BUT WE BRING A MEDIC, FIRE RESPONSE TO YOU IMMEDIATELY.

AN INCREASE OF $360,000 A YEAR BECAUSE THE INCREASE THAT AT&T CHARGES FOR THE IZZY NET. ALL RIGHT, NEXT.

SHORT AND SWEET. DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE YOU GUYS TOO LONG. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?

>>JUDGE CANALES: GUYS, ANY QUESTIONS HERE?

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO AT METROCOM.

YOU GUYS SAVE A LOT OF LIVES. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: THANK

YOU. >> APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>>JUDGE CANALES: AN UPDATE ONLY. ALL OF THIS IS ALREADY INCLUDED IN OUR BUDGET AND DALE CAN, YOU KNOW ROAR PROVIDE ANY DETAILS FOR THE COURT REGARDING THOSE DOLLARS.

BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS YOU WILL SEE THE REDUCTION OF THE $41,000 DUE TO THE CHANGE OF PERCENT TILES I THINK THAT WITH A WAS A QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED LAST TIME.

IS IT BASED ON THE CALLS. THE ANSWER IS, YES, IT IS.

>> YES, YOUR HONOR. >>JUDGE CANALES: SUPER.

THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. HAVE A GOOD MOMORNING.

[ The Commissioners Court will conduct a public hearing on the proposed 2022-2023 Nueces County and Nueces County Hospital District budgets.]

>>JUDGE CANALES: I AM GOING TO GO INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DO IT ON THE NUECES COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

AFTER WE DO THE HEARING AND THE CONSENT AGENDA I PROMISE TO CALL THE ITEMS SO YOU ARE NOT WAITING ALL AFTERNOON.

I TURN TO DALE AND IMAGINE YOU WANT TOP BRING A POWER POINT.

>> REPEAT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING SEPTEMBER 1, 2022.

WE GO THROUGH THIS VERY QUICKLY. PAGE 26 THE REPORT WHEN SHE HAS THAT AVAILABLE. WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THE PROPOSED RATES. SITS RATES AND EXEMPTIONS FOR THE ENTITIES THAT WE HAVE. OUR SOURCES OF REVENUE ARE WHERE WE SPEND THE FUNDS AND FUTURE FISCAL IMPACT JUST THE PROPOSAL TO BE DISCUSSED. AND THE SEATING THAT CANNOT BE EXCEEDED. PAGE 3, PLEASE.

THESE ARE PROPOSED TLATS WE PROPOSE.

CURRENTLY OUR CURRENT TAX IS.310445 PER $$100 EVALUATION.

WE DID THE CALCULATIONS BASED ON AT APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

RECEIVED A NO NEW REVENUE TAX WHICH MEANS POINT 27198 WE ARE $100 VALUATION. WE ARE PROPOSING A RATE TO COVER EVERYTHING THAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE BUDGET THAT WILL BE DISCUSSING A LITTLE BIT AT.29.69.

AND THE PROPOSED RATE FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT IS.10188.

NEXT SLIDE. WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THESE VERY SOON WHEN WE GET TO THE POINTS OF OOUR EXEMPTIONS.

CURRENTLY WE EXEMPT 20% WITH $. THE SAME THING FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT DISTRICT. AS YOU SEE FOR THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. $50,000 BOTH DISABLED.

CCS DID IS $40,000 FOR HOMESTEAD, $65,000 AND DEL MAR IS $5,000 WITH $60,000 ON BOTH. IF YOU DON'T LIVE WITHIN THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI OR LIVE IN A DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICT,

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THESE MIGHT BE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU HAVE AND THE LARGEST IN THE AREA. NEXT SLIDE THIS IS OUR GENERAL FUND, DEBT SERVICE SHOWING FROM 2006 TO 2007.

YOU SEE THE TRENDS GOING DOWN SLIGHTLY A SMALL INCREASE DUE TO COSTS WE NEEDED TO FUND. FROM THAT POINT FORWARD WENT DOWN SMALL AMOUNTS FROM 2012 TO PROPOSED IS.292, A .18 CENT DECREASE IN VALUATION. THIS IS THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

WE HAVE BEEN FUNDING THEM THROUGH OUR EFFECTIVE RATE FOR MANY YEARS. WHY YOU SEE THE UP AND DOWN SOMETIMES WHEN YOUR VALUES GO UP, YOUR RATE GOES DOWN.

SOMETIMES THE VALUES DOWN, THE RATES GO UP.

SINCE THEN IT IS GOING DOWN AND IF WE DO THIS FISCAL YEAR .11 # AND .106 AND 1% DECREASE IN VALUE AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE. A COMBINED VALUE WHICH INCLUDES OUR GENERAL FUND, OUR DEBT SERVICE, AS WELL OUR HOSPITAL DISTRICT. BACK IN 006 AND 007.

YOU CAN SEE AS OF 2012, 2013, WE SAW A DECLINE IN THE -- IT HAS GONE DOWN SINCE THEN AND FOR 2022, A 2023.

APPEAR 2.5 TO 3 CENT DIFFERENCE. OF COURSE THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE VALUATIONS FOR OUR TAX RATES.

TAX REVENUE INCLUDING ALL SOURCES FOR THE GENERAL FUND, THE ROAD FUND, AS WELL AS THE DEBT SERVICE FUND.

AROUND $70 MILLION. RIGHT NOW WITH THE PROPOSED INFORMATION AT $108 MILLION. WE HAD A LOT MORE NEW PROPERTY AS WELL AS IN VALUATIONS AND WHY OUR REASONS FOR THE INCREASE.

THIS SHOWS THE TREND OF OUR FUND BALANCES FOR THE GENERAL FUND AND YOU SEE IN 2015, 2016, WE ARE ABOVE.

2017 WE FELL SLOW BECAUSE OF ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT WE DIDN'T EXPECT AND WE WENT UP INTO 2021 WHERE WE ARE RIGHT AT THE TARGET LEVEL. THIS YEAR TO SHOWING A SLIGHT DECREASE BUT WITH THE ARPA FUNDING, WE EXPECT THAT TO BE CLOSER TO THE 25 TO MAYBE THE $26 MILLION RANGE STILL SLIGHTLY BELOW OUR TARGET VALUE BUT NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.

NEXT SLIDE. EVALUATION OF THE HOUSES EVALUATION IS $165,170. LAST FISCAL YEAR, THE AVERAGE VALUE OF THE HOUSES WAS $1 $149,979.

IF YOU USE LAST YEAR'S RACE, LEVY $630.20 FOR THE AVERAGE HOUSE BRO POSED OF 390807. A SMALL INCREASE OF $26.86.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS WHAT WE THOUGHT EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW SOME PEOPLE GET A TAX BILL AND THINK THAT WE ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT ASSESS THE TAXES.

BUT IN THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, FIVE TAXING AGENCIES.

THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND SECOND LARGEST BEING YOUR CITY AND NEXT TWO THE DEL MAR DISTRICT AND NUECES COUNTY.

WE ARE A SMALL LITTLE PORTION OF THE HOUSE WITH THE HOSPITAL OF THE SMALLEST PORTION OF THAT. THE SMALLEST BILL COUNTY IS 15% TO 16% OF YOUR TOTAL COST. NEXT SLIDE.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU KNEW WHERE YOUR MONEY WAS COMING FROM. YOU SEE FROM OUR LOW COST HERE, PROPERTY TAX EQUATES TO 40% OF THE COUNTY'S REVENUE.

OTHER PORTION IS 35% OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE.

WHAT IS INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE, A LOT OF IT IS THE GRANTS THAT THE GENERAL FUNDS RECEIVE YOU SEE IT THERE.

15% CHARGES FOR SERVICES. YOUR CLERK FEES, YOUR SHERIFF FEES, COUNTIES AND OTHER CHARGES WITH THE COUNTY.

YOU SEE THE MAJORITY OF YOUR REVENUE IS COMING FROM TAXES OR GOVERNMENT SERVICES. NEXT SLIDE.

HERE IS A IDEA OF OF WHERE THE MONEY GOES.

MOST COMPANIES, THE LARGEST PORTION GOES TO PERSONAL COST.

NO DIFFERENCE HERE. OUR PERSONAL COST IS $80 MILLION

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AND THAT INCLUDES BENEFITS. NEXT HIGHEST IS $9 MILLION, THE OTHER SERVICES CHARGES AND PAY RENT BALANCES AND OTHER COSTS WE HAVE FOR THE BALANCE WE HAVE. THAT IS WHERE EVERYTHING WILL GO. NEXT SLIDE.

NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHERE WE ARE COMING UP -- ADOPTING OUR BUDGET SOON AS WELL. IN OUR BUDGET INCLUDE ITEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE BUDGET. WE HAVE OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT FOR CONSTABLES THAT IS 357 MOWS AND HAVE A CONTRACT INCREASE OF 3 OR 4 4%. MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT EVERY THREE YEARS OF EMPLOYMENT, A EMPLOYEE CAN RECEIVE A 2.5% INCREASE IN SALARY.

THAT EQUATES 285 TO 295 WITH EMPLOYEE AND DEPARTMENT HEADS.

$322,719. THIS YEAR, FISCAL YEAR, RETIREMENT THROUGH TEXAS COUNTY RETIREMENT SYSTEM AND RATE VALUE WENT DOWN FROM 14% TO 13%. A REDUCTION OF OUR COST FOR RETIREMENT OF NEGATIVE $818,# 33.

THAT PARTICULAR REDUCTION DOES PAY FOR THE TWO ABOVE US.

WE ARE ASKED TO INCLUDE A COST OF LIVING SALARY INCREASE.

WE HAVE DONE THAT. BUT BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH OUR -- WITH A LOT OF VACANCIES, WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CADETS ARE 8% WHILE ALL THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE AT 6.

DOES NOT INCLUDE ALL EMPLOYEES. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAVE INCLUDED. NOT INCLUDING THE COUNTY COURT AND LAW JUDGES BECAUSE BASED ON STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS AND IT YOU NOT INCLUDE THE NEW LEER HIRED MEDICAL EXAMINER, CHIEF DEPUTY OR ANY OTHER DEPUTIES RECENTLY HIRED.

DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR, LAST FISCAL YEAR, SEVERAL ADJUSTMENTS FOR RECLASSIFICATIONS WHETHER HIRING OR CHANGING OR RECLASSIFICATIONS.

AND MIDTERM CAME OUT A $444,5 THE 5.

PROPOSING ELIMINATING NEW POSITIONS OF AROUND FIVE EMPLOYEES THAT EQUATES TO $# 15,751.

SMALL RECLASSIFICATION -- NOW THIS RECLASSIFICATION INCLUDES THE 10% FOR THE CADETS. THAT IS NOT PART OF THE 2.5.

THE CADETS ARE SEPARATELY -- REPORTED SEPARATELY AND $270,000. AS YOU ALL REMEMBER LAST FISCAL YEAR, YOU HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH THE ABM THROUGH FUNDING THROUGH BANK OF AMERICA THROUGH DEBT SERVICES OF SMALL BALANCE OF INCREASE OF $27,000. THESE ARE OUR BUDGET CHALLENGES.

THEY HAVE ALL BEEN INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET THAT WE WILL BE

TALKING ABOUT VERY SOON. >>JUDGE CANALES: DALE, GO BACK FOR CLARITY. CADETS, THE 2.5 MILLION --

>> DOES NOT. >>JUDGE CANALES: DOES NOT INCLUDE. THAT IS WHERE YOU SEE THE LIMITED RECLASS. THAT IS INCLUDED THERE.

>> YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: BECAUSE IT --

>> MAY SEEM LIKE THAT BUT WE PUT IT THERE SO YOU KNEW IT WAS THERE. BUT SHOWED THAT FOR THAT

PARTICULAR REASON. >>JUDGE CANALES: UNDERSTOOD.

FROM OUR EARLIER -- LIKE I AM TALKING BUDGET WORKSHOP WHEN WE HAD THIS VERY SIMILAR SLIDE, TWO ITEMS THAT WERE ON PREVIOUSLY NOT SHOWN HERE. MIGHT BE WORTHY OF MENTIONING.

ONE OF THEM WAS METROCOM. WE JUST HAD THAT PRESENTATION.

DO YOU WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY. >> WE MADE ADJUSTMENTS INTO OUR BUDGET BECAUSE WE ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE THE BUDGET MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY'S 179 MILLION THEY JUST SHOWED US.

THAT INCREASE WAS THERE BECAUSE NO LONGER A CHALLENGE.

A KNOWN FACT THAT WE HAVE TO PAY THAT FUND AND INCREASE THE BUDGET FOR THAT PARTICULAR FACT. I KNOW MICHAEL IS WORKING ON THE AGREEMENT OF THE COUNTY. WE ESTIMATE A SMALL AMOUNT, PORTION OF THAT. AND WE WENT AHEAD TO INCLUDE IT IN THE BUDGET TO MAKE SURE IT IS CONTINUED THROUGH THERE.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THROUGH ARPA?

>> NO, THE GENERAL FUND. THE GENERAL FUND AND ALL FUNDS

PAYING FOR THE SERVICE. >>JUDGE CANALES: GOT IT.

FOR THE METROCOM, ALREADY INSIDE THE $179 MILLION CONTRACT.

>> YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

JUST IN CASE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT COMPARISON.

PLEASE CONTINUE. >> NEXT SLIDE.

TALK OF FUTURE IMPACT. AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE ARE STILL DEALING WITH COVID-19, THE PANDEMIC THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH, THAT IS CAUSING A LOT OF PRICE VALUATIONS, INFLATION, COSTS, SHORTAGES, DISRUPTION OF A LOT OF GOODS AND SERVICES AND A LOT OF STUFF ARE A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE NOW FOR US IN OUR BUDGET. GASOLINE WAS VERY EXPENSIVE NOW AS WELL AS OTHER SUFFERS OF GETTING FOOD FOR OUR JAIL AND JUVENILE SECTION AND EXPENSIVE ON BOTH.

CONTINUED FUTURE IMPACTS UNTIL EVERYTHING GETS STABILIZED AND CORRECTED. THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS TRYING TO DO SOME STUFF. AND WE HAD TO INCLUDE A LITTLE

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BIT OF INCREASED COST FOR SOME COUNTY ITEMS WE ARE DISCUSSING.

WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR THIS.

WE HAVE GOTTEN DIFFERENT RELIEF FUNDS AS WE MENTIONED.

THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT IS FUNDING THERE WHERE WE CAN TRY TO RECOVER SOME OF OUR LOSS, AS WELL AS TRANSFER SOME FUNDS FOR THIS. SO WE HAVE MEANS.

I KNOW THE -- THE GOVERNMENT IS WORKING ON SOME OTHER ISSUES TO TRY TO GIVE US SOME OTHER COSTS. THAT IS THE FUTURE IMPACT WE HAVE. NEXT SLIDE.

AS WE KNOW, OUR NEXT MEETING IS TODAY.

AND WE ARE ABOUT READY TO TALK OF OUR PROPOSED TAX RATE, AS WELL AS OUR BUDGET FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR AS WELL AS THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT.I BELIEVE HIPP ATHERE FOR THOSE TWO ISSUES.

THAT IS OUR PUBLIC HEARING FOR TODAY.

I WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IF YOU LOOK AT THE SLIDE FOR LOOKING AT THE CHALLENGES. NOT A TOTAL BUT I AM SURE YOU GOT IT. THAT TOTAL --

>> 3.5 -- 3.5 MILLION. >>JUDGE CANALES: SEEMS OBVIOUS BUT PROBABLY A GOOD THIS I THINK TO SAY.

IF YOU WERE AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO COVER THESE BUDGET

CHALLENGES, THAT IS CORRECT? >> DURING THE BUDGET HEARINGS WE PROVIDED -- BECAUSE NO NEW REVENUE INCLUDES THE MAIN INCREASE ON NEW PROPERTY. AND PROPERTY WAS LESS THAN THIS YEAR THAN IN THE PAST. SO WORK WITH THOSE SIGNIFICANT AREAS, IF WE BROUGHT IN THE NO NEW REVENUE WE WOULD BRING IN

$1.8 MILLION, ADDITIONAL FUNDS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ:

ADDITIONAL FUNDS? >> ADDITIONAL FUNDS.

ADDITIONAL TAXES. Y

YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY.

THE ONLY WAY TO ACHIEVE THE BUDGET CHALLENGES AND PROPOSED COLA SALARY INCREASE OF 6% WOULD BE TO HAVE A RATE THAT IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE CEILING AND THE NO NEW REVENUE, THAT'S

CORRECT? >> THAT IS MY ASSUMPTION, YES.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IN THIS PUBLIC HEARING, DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION WHAT THE RATE WILL BE?

>> GOING OVER THAT SOON WITH BUDGET AND LOOKING THROUGH THE BUDGET, I AM GOING TO RECOMMEND PROPOSED OF

. >> WITH THE RATE, WOULD ALL OF THE CHALLENGES ON THE SLIDE BE MET?

>> YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST OUT OF INTEREST FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS. 6% -- HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE THAT? HOW -- IS THAT A -- IS THAT A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT THAT IS REFLECTED FOR TODAY'S ECONOMY? IS IT LOW? HIGH? IN THE MIDDLE OR JUST RIGHT?

>> AS WE ALL KNOW WITH A LOT OF THE COUNTIES AS YOU WILL SEE, A LOT OF ADVERTISEMENTS FOR OTHER ENTITIES THAT DEAL WITH GOVERNMENT ITEMS. IF WE DON'T BE COMPETITIVE IN THE MARKET, WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT VACANCIES AND HAVE SIGNIFICANT VACANCIES THIS YEAR. HAVE GONE THROUGH 80 TO 90 VACANCIES. I KNOW SOME OF OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE GOING THROUGH VACANCIES.

THREE IN MY OFFICE THAT I CAN'T FIND APPLICANT THAT ARE QUALIFIED OR NO ONE IS APPLYING. SIGNIFICANT IMBALANCES.

WHAT THIS DOES IS TRY TO GET US AT A MORE COMPETITIVE RATE.

NOW TO BE COMPETITIVE BECAUSE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE BENEFITS THAN SOME OTHER ENTITIES MAY HAVE, OUR COMPETITIVE MAY HAVE TO BE HIGHER THAN BASE PAY OF SOMEONE ELSE.

THIS GIVES US A GOOD START. >>JUDGE CANALES: ANY QUESTION ON THE SLIDE DECK FOR DALE REGARDING ANY OF THE ITEMS? OKAY, NO JESS? AT THIS TIME, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOR THE CLERK IT IS 11:58 P.M.

I DID NOT TELL YOU WHAT TIME IT WAS WHEN I STARTED.

OKAY, GREAT. WE WILL CONCLUDE THIS PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2022-2023 AND NUECES COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT BUDGETS AND RECONVENE OUR REGULAR MEETING.

AND JOHNNY, FORGIVE ME. >> I AM SORRY, JUDGE.

I DON'T HAVE TO TALK BUT IF YOU WANT TO HEAR ABOUT MY BUDGET, I

WILL BE HAPPY TO GO WITH YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE TRUTH IS -- YES, ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE THE AGENDA ITEM, BUT I

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AM HAPPY TO HAVE IT IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

EMMA AS THEY SAY, LIKE WI WILLIE WONKA.

LET'S REVERSE THAT AND HEAR FROM JOHNNY HIP AS HE A GOES OVER HIS BUDGET THAT WE ALSO HAVE SHOWCASED OVER A WEEK AGO.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

I WANT TO START OFF THIS BRIEF BUDGET PRESENTATION TO REMIND THE COURT WHEN I WAS HERE LAST WEEK THAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT WAS GOING TO ASK FOR OR ADOPT IN ITS BUDGET PLANNING FOR A TAX RATE THAT WAS LESS THAN AN AMOUNT WE HAD ASKED YOU ALL TO CONSIDER AS THE CEILING. THAT AMOUNT THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS A.098846. SO ON MY PRESENTATION, IF YOU ALL CAN GO BACK TO THAT. SO IF YOU GO TO THE SECOND PAGE.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF -- ACTUALLY THREE TRENDS I WANT TO GO OVER WITH YOU. IF YOU GO TO PAGE 3, THAT'S THIS ONE. THE FIRST ONE IS TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT DALE SAID EARLIER THAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT'S TAX RATE CONTINUES TO GO DOWN FOR MANY YEARS.

MANY YEARS, DALE SAID, THE DISTRICT USED THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE. LAST YEAR WE HAD A BIT OF AN INCREASE THAT BROUGHT IN MORE REVENUE TO THE DISTRICT, BUT YOU SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO THE OVERALL TREND LINE AS THE TAX RATE CONTINUES TO GO DOWN. SO WHAT I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THIS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE IS THAT THIS TREND LINE, THE ILLUSTRATES THE BYPRODUCT WHAT WAS DONE IN 1996 WHEN WE INTERACTED. THE DISTRICT GAINED REVENUES FROM OTHER SOURCES, AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP THE TAX RATE AT A PLACE THAT THE TAXPAYERS WILL BE COMFORTABLE WITH.

SO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO THE NEXT SLIDE DEMONSTRATES THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT'S CONTINUING COMMITMENT TO FUND HEALTH CARE SERVICES THAT WE BE FINE AS THE COUNTY'S HEALTH CARE EXPENDITURES. FOR THOSE -- LET ME JUST ENUMERATE THOSE ONCE AGAIN FOR THE CITIZENS.

THE HEALTH CARE SERVICES INCLUDE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, FUNDING FOR THE PUBLIC HEALTH DISTRICT, FUNDING FOR THE EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICTS -- DISTRICT -- DISTRICTS.

FUNDING FOR HEALTH CARE SERVICES AT THE JUVENILE DETENTION FACILITY. FUNDING FOR HEALTH CARE SERVICES AT THE JAIL NEXT DDOOR AND SOME MISCELLANEOUS GRANTS THINGS THAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT DOES. THIS GRAPH SHOWS THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT'S SUPPORT OF THE SERVICES IN THE COUNTY.

NEXT SLIDE IN NEXT SLIDE IS A SUBSET OF THE PREVIOUS SLIDE AND DEMONSTRATES THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT'S COMMITMENT TO AND CONTINUING COMMITMENT TO FUND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.

IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE AND GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE IT IS GETTING ATTENTION IT NEEDS. THE BLUE LINE I WANT TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC THAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT CONTINUES AND WILL CONTINUE TO EXPEND FUNDS ON ADDRESSING THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY. SO -- NEXT PAGE.

MOVE TONIGHT NEXT ONE, PLEASE. THE HIGHLIGHT OF THIS PIE CHART IS TO ILLUSTRATE TO THE TAXPAYERS THAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT DOES NOT RELY TOTALLY ON TAX REVENUE TO OPERATE.

THE DISTRICT'S TAX REVENUE REPRESENTS 56% OF OUR REVENUE AND 44% COMES FROM OTHER SOURCES CHIEFLY FROM OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH SPANN WHERE THEY SHARE REVENUE WITH THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND USE THOSE TO FUND THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE NEEDED NEXT SLIDE SIMPLIFIES OUR EXPENSES AND BREAKS IT DOWN TO THREE CATEGORIES. THE BLUE ONE BEING THE LARGEST ONE AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL TRANSFERS DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE THE COUNTY HAS AND THESE ARE TRANSFERS THAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT MAKES TO THE STATE TO DRAW DOWN SUPPLEMENTAL PAYMENT PROGRAMS FOR ALL OF THE HOSPITALS.

I WANT TO UNDER LINE ALL OF THE HOSPITALS THAT OPERATE IN NUECES COUNTY. AND THOSE WILL BE SPANN HCA WHICH HAVE THEIR ALL MAY DA AND BAY AREA CAMPUSES AND DRISCOL HOSPITAL. NEXT SLIDE.

I JUST WANT TO STOP HERE, JUDGE. BECAUSE WE WADED INTO THE NUMBER, BUT REPRESENTS ALL THREE FUNDS OF THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND THE WAY THEY ARE BUDGETED FOR NEXT YEAR.

I WILL JUST CLOSE BY SAYING -- CLOSE AT THIS SLIDE BY SAYING

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THAT THE BUDGET NEXT YEAR PROVIDES FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO MEET ITS STATUTORY DUTIES TO HAVE A MECHANISM FOR CARE OF THE INDIGENT AND CONTINUES THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT'S MENTAL HEALTH FUNDING AS YOU SAW IN THERE AND CONTINUES FUNDING FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS WE ASSUMED FOR

THE COUNTY FROM 1996. >>JUDGE CANALES: JOHNNY, ALSO INCLUDES THE TWO MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY APPROPRIATED IN 2019 AND THE COUNTY TOOK RESPONSIBILITY IN 2020 AND 2021, BUT BRINGS IT BACK TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT IN

2022. >> YEAH, JUDGE, LET ME JUST KIND OF CLARIFY THAT BRIEFLY. THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT STEPPED AWAY FROM FUNDING OFFICERS DIRECTLY TWO YEARS AGO.

FUNDING IN BUDGET WITH THE OFFICERS.

THEY GO THROUGH MHID AND THEY DO THE HIRING.

THERE ARE CONTRACTS FOR THEM TO BRING ON WHATEVER MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS THEY ARE NEEDED. WE STEPPED AWAY FROM MAKING THAT DECISION DIRECTLY AND LEFT IT TO THE MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS

TO DO SO. >>JUDGE CANALES: UNDERSTOOD.

BUT CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT NUMBER? IN MY MIND THE NUMBER IS FOUR, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE APPROPRIATIONS AND THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS OF NHID.

THROUGH AN INTERLOCAL. AND IN ADDITION AN ORIGINAL TWO THAT THE COUNTY WAS PAYING FOR FROM -- WHICH WAS IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT TRANSFERRED TO THE CONSTABLE OFFICE IN PRECINCT TWO. I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A TOTAL. I WILL TELL YOU WHAT THE IS, $218,000 IN ADDITION TO WHATEVER WAS ALREADY PROVIDED FOR F

FROM NHID. >> I THINK WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE BUT A DIFFERENT EXPLANATION THOUGH.

THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT HAS PROVIDED FUNDING FOR BUDGETED DOLLARS WITH MHID FOR OUR CONTRACT WITH THEM.

THEY ARE THE ONES THAT WILL MAKE A DECISION WHICH OFFICERS GET HIRED AND WHICH CONSTABLE AND ALL OF THOSE.

WE STEPPED AWAY FROM THAT ROLE TWO YEARS AGO.

THE MHID WILL -- THEY ARE THE ONES THAT NEED TO MAKE THAT DECISION. WE HAVE FUNDS IN THEIR BUDGET, BUT I HAVE NOT DIRECTED THEM TO GO IS IT HIRE THOSE TWO OFFICERS. THAT IS THEIR DECISION.

WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THAT WITHIN THE LAST WEEK OR TWO WITH NHID AND THE COUNTY AND THE DECISION TO HIRE THOSE OFFICERS AND DO WHATEVER THEY ARE GOING TO DO WITH THEM WITH A MHID DECISION THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO MAKE. BUT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT HAS PUT FUNDS THERE IF THAT IS WHAT THEY DECIDE TO DO.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: LET ME ASK A QUESTION, JOHNNY.

BECAUSE I AM JUST THINKING -- I HAVE A WHOLE YEAR ON THE MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS FOR THE BUDGET IN CASE WE DO PASS ONE COUNTY BUDGETS. WOULD IT BE A LOT EASIER OR SIMPLER TO SAY THAT MONEY WILL BE THERE IF THEY WANT TO HIRE OR TRAIN THEIR OFFICERS? TO ME I THINK IF WE HAVE CONSTABLE WILL TRAIN TWO OF THEIR OFFICERS TO BE CERTIFIED MENTAL HEALTH. I THINK THAT WILL BE A LOT EASIER THAN TRYING TO HIRE, YOU KNOW, TWO FOR ONE, AND FOUR FOR ONE, AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SPLIT IT UP.

>> COMMISSIONER, WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF ANYTHING THAT GETS MENTAL HEALTH TRAINING TO THE OFFICERS IN WHICHEVER WAY.

THE ONLY THING WE ASK THAT ALL THAT GETS CONTROLLED THROUGH MHID. THAT IS ALL WE ASK.

BECAUSE THEY ARE -- WE ARE NOT THE PROFESSIONALS IN THAT AREA.

THEY KNOW WHERE THEY ARE NEEDED. THEY KNOW WHAT IS NEEDED BY THEM. THEY KNOW HOW TO FACILITATE THAT AND I BELIEVE OUR ROLE IS THAT THERE IS FUNDING FOR THEM TO DO THAT AND WE HAVE DONE SO IN THE BUD

BUDGET. >>JUDGE CANALES: I HOPE I DON'T OFFEND YOU, BUT I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER.

I NEED TO KNOW THE BUDGET -- FORGET WHOSE DECISION IT IS.

I GET IT. AND I AGREE WITH YOU.

I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE -- THIS HAPPENED TO US LAST YEAR -- WHERE THERE WAS A MISS. THIS COURT IS ALREADY -- HAS A

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GREAT PROGRAM THAT WILL PUT MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS COUNTYWIDE. AND THAT CONSTABLE QUITE FRANKLY WE APPROPRIATED FOUR. THAT WAS THE INTENTION.

DO YOU BELIEVE THERE IS ENOUGH DOLLARS IN THE MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET FOR MHID FOR THE FOUR? BECAUSE THAT IS REALLY WHAT I NEED TO KNOW. I HEAR YOU THAT THEY ARE GOING

TO MAKE THAT DECISION. >> THERE ARE FUNDS IN THEIR BUDGET FOR THEM TO DO SO. BUT THEY WILL NEED TO MAKE THAT

DECISION. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T MIND THAT. I JUST NEED TO KNOW IF THE FUNDS ARE THERE. NO ONE CAN MAKE A DECISION IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING. DID YOU GUYS CHANGE THE FUNDING SUCH THAT IT WILL ACCOMMODATE THOSE FOUR OFFICERS?

>> JUDGE, THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN THEIR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET TO HIRE AS MANY MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS AS THEY THINK IS NECESSARY. I AM TRYING TO GET AS CLOSE TO

YOUR ANSWER AS I CAN. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THE ANSWER IS, YES, THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S ALL I NEEDED TO HEAR.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THEIR CHOICE.

WE DON'T HAVE A COMMITMENT FOR THEM AS WE SIT HERE TODAY FOR THOSE OFFICERS AND, THEREFORE, THERE IS NO WAY WE SHOULD BE BUDGETING FOR THE OFFICERS AND NO COMMITMENT FROM MHID.

ALL I HEAR FROM THE CONSTABLE THAT THE MHID COMMITTED TO TWO OFFICERS. AS LONG AS THOSE TWO OFFICERS DID 100% MENTAL HEALTH WHICH THE CONSTABLE SAID THEY WOULD DO.

AND I THINK THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO THAT HAVE BEEN FILLED.

SO -- SO IF WE GOT ANYTHING BUDGETED IN HERE, DALE, THAT NEEDS TO BE REVEALED BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE THAT WE BUDGETED

ANOTHER TWO POSITIONS. >> MHID IS ON AND CAN ADD TO THE

DISCUSSION. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT WILL BE GREAT. DALE, DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER HIS

QUESTION. >> LET ME RESEARCH AND IF YOU HAVE A RESPONSE FROM MHID, I WILL GET TO THAT VERY QUICKLY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL FIND OUT WHO IS ON HERE.

BUT I WANT TO SET THE TABLE, AGAIN.

YOU ARE CORRECT, COMMISSIONER, THAT MHID HAD TWO OFFICERS THAT THEY HIRED THAT WAS THE INTENT, THE PLAN AND DOCUMENTATION.

THAT WAS PREDICATED ON THE OTHER TWO MOVED FROM SO TO CONSTABLE LAST YEAR. IT WAS A TOTAL OF FOUR.

THE REQUEST WAS SIX. JUST SO YOU KNOW.

AND WE AS A COURT VOTED FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR TO BE UNDER HIS

COMMAND. >> BUT WE WERE TOLD THAT WAS FUNDED BY THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AT THAT TIME.

AND NOW WE ARE BEING TOLD THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT, BUT OUT OF GOOD WILL, WE ARE DECIDING TO MOVE ON. I WOULD TAKE GREAT EXCEPTION WITH THE IDEA THAT IT WAS A -- ANYWAY, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GO BACKWARDS AND ARGUE ABOUT THE CONTRACT AND WHAT WITH THE

INTENTS WERE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE DON'T HAVE THE TWO FUNDED, JUDGE, OTHER THAN THROUGH MHID.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S CORRECT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT WAS THE MISNOMER TOO AT THE TIME NOT GIVING US CORRECT INFORMATION -- "US" AS A COURT. WE WERE JUST MOVING TWO POSITIONS AND SOMEONE ELSE WAS GOING TO FUND.

TURNS OUTS THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE THE CASE.

ALL I KNOW -- AND MAYBE MHID IS GOING TO TELL US.

ALL I KNOW THAT MHID IS PAYING FOR THE TWO IN THE CONSTABLE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS CONFIRMED FROM MHID AND I JUST HEARD THAT FROM THE CONSTABLE. I AM NOT SURE IF THE OTHER TWO

ARE FUNDED. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S FIND OUTS. WHO IS ON.

I SEE MARK HENDRICKS. >> JUDGE, IF I CAN FINISH RIGHT QUICK. I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE OUR DISCUSSION COVERING UP THE IMPORTANT WORK THAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT DOES. WE FUND A LOT OF STUFF IN THE COMMUNITY. WE FUND A LOT OF THINGS THAT MATTER. AND WE PROCESS MONEY INTO MENTAL HEALTH AND I DON'T WANT TO SOURCE WHAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT DOES OVER THE DISCUSSION WHETHER THE TWO OFFICERS ARE PAID BY MHID OR NOT.

I WANT TO YOU FOCUS ON EVERYTHING THAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT DOES. OUR WORK, THAT IS, NOT TOTALLY DEPENDENT ON TAX REVENUE AS I POINTED OUT ONLY 50% OF WHAT WE DO DEPENDS ON TAX REVENUE. I DO A LOT OF OTHER THINGS AND I DON'T WANT TO END THE DISCUSSION ON THE.PUBLIC ISOM DISCUSSION IF THERE IS ENOUGH PEOPLE AT MHID. THANK YOU ALL.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: MARK HENDRICKS IS ON THE LINE.

COULD I ASK YOU TO UNMUTE. AND WILL YOU JUST SHINE A LIGHT ON -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR MR. HIPP'S PRESENTATION. BUT HE SAID YOU HAVE DECISION POWER IN YOUR MIND AND A BUDGET SUFFICIENT TO ADEQUATELY PROVIDE FOR MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS IN NUECES COUNTY.

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AND I JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU ON THAT MATTER.

IS THAT A RAT? >> ABSOLUTELY.

JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR CALLING ON ME.

I WAS LISTENING ON THE GENERAL WEB SITE BROADCAST AND ONCE I HEARD THE DISCUSSION, I WENT AHEAD AND LOGGED INTO THE ZOOM; HOWEVER, THERE WAS A BY THE OF A DELAY OF THE WEB SITE BROADCAST AND WHERE THE DISCUSSION WAS WHEN I LOGGED INTO ZOOM, SO I MAY HAVE MISSED A MINUTE OR TWO, BUT I THINK I GET THE GIST OF WHAT. WHERE THE DISCUSSION LIES.

CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHY HE, WE CAN.

>> TO BIGGYBACK WHAT JOHNNY HAS SHARED.

THE SHORT ANSWER IS, YES. HE IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

THE DISTRICT HAS GIVEN US SUFFICIENT FUNDING AND AUTHORITY TO CONTRACT WITH -- BOTH OFF-DUTY OFFICERS AND NUECES COUNTY CONSTABLES TO SUPPORT CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM PART OF OOUR COLLABORATIVE CONTRACT. TO SPACE SHUTTLE THE COURT'S MIND AT EASE. I DON'T THINK WE ARE IN A POSITION WHERE WE ARE NOT ADEQUATELY FUNDED WHERE WE ARE.

I THINK WE ARE IN GREAT SHAPE. AND I THINK WE ARE IN A POSITION WHERE WE ARE ABLE TO PROCURE THE OFFICERS THAT WE NEED.

TO ADD A LITTLE CLARITY TO THE CIRCUMSTANCE, THERE WAS STILL SOME FINAL TOUCHES BEING PUT ON THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND MHID AND WHAT IT RELATES TO THE DEFINITION OF HOW THE CONSTABLE OFFICE FUNCTIONS. I BELIEVE CONSTABLE HAS ALREADY ISSUED SUPPORT FOR FINAL CHANGES AND THAT CONTRACT IS AS IT RELATES TO INPUT FROM MHID IS GOOD TO GO.

SO AT THIS POINT -- ONE PERSON CLARIFICATION IS WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THAT CONTRACT IS THE FISCAL REIMBURSEMENT ELEMENTS AND HOW IT IS DEFINED WITHIN THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

MHID WILL COVER THE TIME AND EFFORT OF THOSE CONSTABLES AS THEY ARE ENGAGED IN CIT ACTIVITIES LAND NOT COVER ACTIVITIES OUTSIDE OF THE CIT OPERATIONS WITH THE CONTRACT SERVICES WITH DISTRICT. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN SHORT, WE WILL PAY FOR THE HOURLY RATE FOR THOSE OFFICERS DURING THE TIME THEY ARE ENGAGED IN CIT CLINICAL ACTIVITIES AND CIT RELATED FUNCTIONS AND THERE IS NO FISCAL ARRANGEMENT TO COVER THE OVERHEAD OR ANCILLARY. VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL TO FUNCTION WITHIN THESE TEAMS. THE SHORT ANSWER IS OPERATIONALLY, WE ARE GOOD TO GO AS IT STANDS TODAY AND BASED ON CONVERSATIONS WITH CONSTABLE UP TO THIS POINT WHERE WE ARE IN THE GROWTH OF THESE PROGRAMS WHICH ARE ONGOING THAT YOU KNOW WITH THE DIVERGENT CENTER COMMISSIONERS COURTING ON BOARD, THERE WILL BE CONTINUED GROWTH. AS OF TODAY THAT PROCUREMENT IS SPECIFIC TO TWO OFFICERS AND JOHNNY'S POINT, THE FUNDING IS THERE IF WE NEED TO GO BEYOND THAT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS A GOOD AN

ANSWER. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MARK, IF YOU ARE CLEAR, THE HOURLY RATE. DOES THAT MEAN YOU ARE NOT COVERING THE BENEFITS AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT OR INCLUDED IN THE HOURLY RATE.

TO ME THAT IS WHAT WAS PERPETUATED.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THE SALARY. SALARY PLUS BENEFITS.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO PICK UP THE DIFFERENCE WHICH IS 25% TO 30% ON TOP OF WHAT AN HOURLY RATE IF YOU INCLUDE OVERHEAD AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS IN OUR BUDGET.

IF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS HOURLY RATE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE GOT TO KNOW THAT.

MARK, SALARY, THE FTE WITH BENEFITS?

>> IT IS NOT INCLUSIVE OF EVERY OVERHEAD COST, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONER. STRICTLY THE HOURLY RATE, AND NOT TO EXCEED AND INTERLOCAL AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS A $122,000.

PART OF THAT REASON IS, WE AS A LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, WE CAN NOT EMPLOY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.

ONLY A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY CAN DO SO.

AND OUR UNDERSTANDING WITH CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CONSTABLE UP TO THIS POINT THAT THOSE CONSTABLES WILL -- WILL ALSO BE USED FOR GENERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES OUTSIDE COUNTY SCOPE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NO, NO, NO ARE ARE I HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE CONSTABLE. AND I CLEARLY ARTICULATED THIS

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COURT WILL BE 100% MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS, MARK.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT AND IF YOU ARE GETTING THAT FROM THE CONSTABLE, WE NEED TO GET THAT BACK IN, BECAUSE THAT HAS NOT BEEN WHAT WAS ARTICULATEDED TO THIS COURT SUPPOSEDED TO BE TWO OFFICERS. JUST FOR MENTAL HEALTH.

WAS SIX THEN TO FOUR AND NOW DOWN TO TWO WHICH IS FINE.

YOU NEED TO DO YOUR MATH. IF THEY ARE NOT 100% MENTAL HEALTH, WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM BECAUSE THAT IS NOT WHAT WE VOTED ON AS WELL. THE OTHER ISSUE IS NOT COVERING OVERHEAD. AGAIN, IT IS GOING TO COVER EVERYTHING, RIGHT. SO SOMEBODY -- BEFORE YOU ALL BRING ME BACK A CONTRACT FOR THIS COURT TO LOOK AT, I AM NOT REAL SUPPORTIVE OF SOMETHING THAT ISN'T 100% MENTAL HEALTH.

I THINK WE NEED IT AND 100% COVERED MENTAL HEALTH BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WITH AS ARTICULATED.

SOMEONE HAS WORK TO DO BEFORE THAT COMES BACK IN MY OPINION THAT IS NOT THE DEAL. A THAT IS WHAT WE VOTED ON.

I DON'T WANT TO GET A CALL FROM FOUR OTHER CONSTABLES AND HE IS HOW COME THEY ARE GETTING OFFICERS.

AND WE NEED MORE OFFICERS AND NOT ALL MENTAL HEALTH.

I WANT TO BE REAL -- I KNOW -- I AM SAYING IT THREE TIMES FOR A REASON. THIS HAS GOT TO BE 100% MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS. 100% REIMBURSED IN MY OPINION.

THAT IS WHAT THIS COURT VOTED ON.

OTHERWISE WE WILL TO REVOTE AND DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN.

SOMEBODY REMEMBER IT IS DIFFERENTLY THAN I DO.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE THE WHOLE PACKAGE PN. INCLUSIVE.

MARK, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE LISTENING OR NOT.

BUT WE ARE HIRING OFFICERS. YOU WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER TO LOOK WITH THE CONSTABLES AND TRAIN -- INSTEAD OF HIRING, TRAIN TWO OF THE CONSTABLES FROM THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE TO BE CERTIFIED AND MAYBE UTILIZE ONE OF YOUR -- ONE OF YOUR STAFF -- WHEN THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT REALLY NEEDS A LOT OF HELP, THEY GO OUT THERE WITH THEM.

I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT ALSO, AS FAR AS TRAINING, CERTIFICATION FOR THE -- FOR THE OFFICERS.

I DON'T THINK WE WILL HAVE THE PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE.

BUT IT IS SOMETHING YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT, IF YOU DON'T

MIND, TO SEE HOW CAN WE DO THAT. >> YEAH, NOT A PROBLEM.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: VERSUS HIRING, YOU KNOW.

>> SO I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A HARD TIME HEARING THAT LAST

PART, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: VERSUS HIRING. LET'S DO SOME TRAINING TO GET

HIM CERTIFIED. >> SO I BELIEVE THAT -- THAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT IN TO THE INTERLOCAL.

I THINK WHEN YOU ALL SEE THAT, YOU WILL SEE THAT.

IF IT HELPS, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY TO PROVIDE THAT CLARIFICATION, I THINK THE INTERLOCAL AS IT IS WRITTEN IS WITH THE INTENTION OF THOSE OFFICERS BEING DEDICATED TO THESE PROCESSES; HOWEVER, I BELIEVE THE FLEXIBILITY IS THERE FROM THE CONSTABLE'S PERSPECTIVE FOR THE OFFICERS, IF NEEDED, TO ENGAGE IN OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES OUTSIDE OF CIT.

THERE IS AN ALLOWANCEANCE FOR THEM TO DO SO.

IT FROM THE CONSTABLE OF PRECINCT 2, AND COVERS THE IF IS CAL ARRANGEMENTS OF THE ACTIVITIES ASSOCIATE WITH CIT ACTIVITIES. I THINK THOSE DELINEATIONS ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE AT THE TEND OF THE DAY THESE OFFICERS AND OFFICERS ARE NOT OUR EMPLOYEES. THEY ARE THE EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTY. AND SO I THINK WE CAN FLESH OUT THOSE DETAILS IF THERE IS SOME SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT NEEDS TO BE THERE. I THINK THAT CAN BE VETTED INITIALLY. WE SUBMITTED A PROPOSED CONTRACT ON OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES CONTRACT.

IT WAS DEEMED IT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE APPROPRIATE ON THE COUNTY'S END FOR THAT TO BE DONE VIA THE COUNTY'S INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT PROCESS. AND I THINK AS IT STANDS TODAY, BOTH MHID AND COULD BE STABLE'S OFFICE IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE LANGUAGE AND STRUCTURE OF THE CONTRACT OF HOW IT WILL DEFINE THE FUNCTION OF THE TWO DEPUTIES, BUT I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU TODAY. AND MAY BE SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES IS A SEPARATE DISCUSSION AS IT RELATES TO THE ABILITY TO USE THE DISTRICT'S FUNDS TO COVER OVERHEAD RETIREMENT, EQUIPMENT, AND ALL OF THE OTHER OPERATIONAL COSTS

FOR THOSE DEPUTIES. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: MARK, THIS IS WHY I KEEP SAYING TRAINING, TRAINING.

IF THERE WILL BE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FIRST AND ISSUES COME UP BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES EIGHT

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HOURS A DAY. BUT MAYBE YOU WILL, YOU MIGHT.

AND MIGHT NOT. I THINK THEY SHOULD BE OFFICERS FIRST. MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES COME OUT.

THEY PULL OUT OF THE PATROL AND THEY DO MENTAL HEALTH.

-- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: BUT WE DON'T GET REIMBURSED. WE DON'T GET REIMBURSED FOR ANYTHING THEY WOULD DO AS OFFICERS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THERE IS A WAY TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE CONTRACTUALLY. WE GET REIMBURSED AT THE COUNTY BY THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT FOR A VARIETY OF ITEMS, JOHNNY.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THE THAT IS OCCURRING IS EXACTLY WHY WE GOT INTO A STICKING POINT A YEAR AGO.

I AGREE WITH YOU, THERE ARE MANY, MANY WONDERFUL ASPECTS TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT; HOWEVER, THE CHART THAT YOU DISPLAYED NOT TOO LONG AGO ON SCREEN WHERE IT WAS LIKE THIS.

YOU SHOULD BRING IT BACK. LIKE THIS.

FLAT LINE. FLAT LINE.

FLAT LINE. FOR ALMOST A DECADE, FLAT LINE.

AND THE REASON THAT MENTAL HEALTH HAS GONE LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE RATTLER AT SIX FLAGS, IS BECAUSE THIS COURT HAS MADE A COMMITMENT TO MAKE MENTAL HEALTH A PRIORITY.

AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT NONE OF IT WORKS.

IT IS NOT ABOUT CIT. EVERY OFFICER AND CONSTABLE SHOULD BE CIT TRAINED AS PART OF A COUNTY POLICY.

NOT THE ISSUE. TOO MANY PEOPLE WHO NEED ATTENTION IN THE MENTAL HEALTH REALM THAT IS NOT GETTING CURRENT ATTENTION WHICH IS WHY WE INITIATED THE PROGRAM TO BEGIN WITH. YOU CAN SEE THE ISSUE IS MHID, THAT MATTER HOW MUCH DECISION POWER YOU GIVE THEM, BY LAW, THEY CAN NOT DO ANYTHING BEYOND THAT CONTRACT.

SO WE HAVE AN ISSUE THERE. I AM CERTAIN IT CAN BE SOLVED.

BUT IT IS NOT GOING TO BE SOLVED IN THE MANNER THAT YOU SET UP, WHICH IS JUST THAT MHID WILL HIRE.

BECAUSE WE WON'T ABLE TO HAVE CARS.

WE WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE POTENTIAL EQUIPMENT.

OR POTENTIAL -- MAYBE THAT IS NOT SUCH A BIG THING BECAUSE WE HAVE A GREAT PROGRAM FOR EQUIPMENT AND UNIFORMS AND ALL OF RESOURCES BUT CERTAINLY AN ISSUE BEING A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE WITH BENEFITS AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE.

AGAIN, WITHOUT GOING BACK IN TIME, I HOPE YOU WILL JUST HELP US SOLVE THIS PROBLEM BECAUSE THE DESIRE IS FOR BOTH PARTIES TO HAVE MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS THAT ARE DEDICATED TO THE MENTAL HEALTH SPACE. WHY? BECAUSE WE NEED IT. EVERY DATA POINT LITERALLY SCREAMS IT. AND TWO IS SO MINIMAL, I ALMOST CHOKE ON IT. BUT, AGAIN, WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN ACHIEVE OUR MUTUAL GOALS. YOUR GOALS IS TO LET THE EXPERTS MAKE THE DECISIONS. WE AGREE, BUT IN THAT VAIN, WE ARE GETTING SHORTCHANGED THE REAL DOLLARS THAT ARE NEEDED AND

I HOPE IT REVEALS ITSELF. >> I UNDERSTAND FROM THE DISCUSSION AND THE COMMISSIONERS' CONCERNS.

THE AGREEMENT THAT MHID WORK WITH THE COUNTY IS STILL FLORIDA FLUX. IT IS NOT COMPLETELY DONE AND THERE IS OPPORTUNITY TO STEP IN THERE AND TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE

CONCERNS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CAN I?

>>JUDGE CANALES: GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THIS IS GOING -- I WILL HAVE TO KIND OF REQUEST WHY WE ARE GOING THIS ROUTE NOW SINCE WE OPENED THIS BOX. WHY CAN'T WE JUST.

WHY CAN'T WE GO BACK -- NOT GO BACK BUT DO THIS WITH YOU, CONTRACT, MHID. WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP LONGSTANDING. WHY DO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH MHID. BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE ALL THESE RESTRICTIONS TO DO THIS AND DO THAT AND CAN'T DO OVERHEAD.

WHY NOT YOU PULL BACK THE FUND FROM MHID AND CONTRACT WITH US STRAIGHT UP LIKE YOU DO ON SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE APPRECIATE, AND I DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT YOUR ROLE.

WE GOTTEN OFF THE TRACK. I DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT THE SIGNIFICANT ROLE THAT YOUR ORGANIZATION PLAY WITH THIS COUNTY AND SIGNIFICANT AND MUCH APPRECIATED.

BUT THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVE TO DO THIS. I AM NOT SURE NOW AS I SIT HERE THIS SHOULDN'T BE UNDER THE SHERIFF BECAUSE THE SHERIFF IS LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE MOVED POSITIONS AROUND, I GET IT. WHY WOULDN'T THIS BE UNDER THE SHERRIFF'S REIGN. I AM NOT ASKING YOU BUT RHETORICALLY. LOOK INTO REDOING THIS COMPLETELY IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS.

BECAUSE I DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT IS BEING OUTLINED TODAY.

I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS WHAT WE AGREED TO OR VOTED FOR.

IF ALL THESE THINGS THAT MARK IS RESTRICTED BY AND I UNDERSTAND.

JOHNNY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE SAME RESTRICTIONS, MAYBE DO YOU. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVE TO GO

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TO A THIRD PARTY ANYWAY. WHY DON'T WE PUT THIS BACK UNDER THE SHERIFF. CONSTABLES HAVE ROLES THAT ARE SUPER IMPORTANT BUT DIFFERENT THAN THE ROLES OF THE SHERIFF.

WE NEED TO PUT THIS BACK ON AND REVISIT THE WHOLE ISSUE.

I THINK IT IS KIND OF A MESS. I DON'T MEAN LIKE IT IS ANYBODY'S FAULT. I AM NOT TRYING TO POINT FINGERS. I AM TRYING TO FIX IT.

WE ALL BELIEVE WE NEED MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS.

ONE SHIFT AT EIGHT HOURS AND THE OTHER SHIFT.

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE BOTH. ONE FOR ONE EIGHT-HOUR SHIFT AND ANOTHER FOR ANOTHER EIGHT-HOUR SHIFT.

I THINK THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF WORK FOR THE MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS TO DO. MAYBE IT NEEDS TO BE THE SHERIFF AND CONTRACTING DIRECTLY FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT NOT HAVE TO RUN THIS KNEW MHID. THIS IS NOT WHAT WE VOTED ON.

I KNOW I SAID IT AND I DON'T MEAN TO BE REPETITIVE BUT NOT

WHAT WE VOTED ON. >> FIRST OF ALL, LET ME REMIND THAT THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY ANDMHID IS STILL IN FLUX.

NOT WRITTEN ALL THE WAY. BEFORE WE START REBUILDING EVERYTHING, LET'S GET THIS AGREEMENT OUT OF THE WAY AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. WITH REGARD TO THE NOTION OF THE HOSPITAL HO HOSPITAL DISTRICT DOING THIS DIRECTLY.

THE REASON WE STEPPED WHERE WE DID, WE NEEDED THE MENTAL HEALTH OFFICIALS INVOLVED DETERMINED WHERE THE NEEDS ARE.

WHAT TRAIN IT THE CIT OFFICERS NEED.

WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE THEY ENCOUNTER ON THE STREET.

IF WE DO THIS -- DO YOU THE CONTRACT DIRECTLY WITH THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT, WE LOSE THAT. WHAT THAT ESSENTIALLY DOES IS SHIFTS TO MY OFFICE THE DETERMINATION OF WHAT TRAINING THEY NEED, WHERE DO THEY NEED TO GO, WHAT RAIN THISSING.

IT BYPASSES THE WHOLE PROFESSIONAL INPUT ON MENTAL HEALTH. MAYBE WE CAN STEP INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE GO BACK AND VERY VISIT THAT.

AND I WILL BE EXTREMELY CAUTIOUS OF A SITUATION WHERE MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS ARE NOT INVOLVED.

MAYBE THEY DON'T NEED TO DO THE ACTUAL DECISION MAKING FINANCIALLY. MAYBE THAT CAN BE HANDLED SOME OTHER WAY. I WANT TO LEAVE THE DOOR OPEN TO GOING BACK IN AND LOOKING AT THAT.

BUT I AM RELUCTANT TO SUGGEST TO OUR BOARD THAT WE ENTER INTO A PROCESS THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE MENTAL HEALTH'S INVOLVEMENT.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HOLD ON A MINUTE.

YOU HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH LIAISON THAT WORKS FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT NAMED DR. GONZALEZ. HE, OF COURSE, WILL BE INVOLVED.

>> HE WORKS FOR THE COUNTY. HE IS A COUNTY EMPLOYEE.

AND WE REIMBURSE YOU ALL FOR HIM.

SO HE COULD HAVE SOME INVOLVEMENT IN THAT.

BUT MHID IS THE AUTHORITY, THE ENTITY IN NUECES COUNTY WHO HAS STATE AUTHORITY UNDER -- UNDER VARIOUS STATUTES TO PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK TO BYPASS THEM AND DR. GONZALEZ IS NOT A CLINICIAN.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NOT A BYPASS.

A LIAISON. >> MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD YOU, COMMISSIONER. WE ARE LOOK INING TO -- OPEN TO LOOKING AT THAT ARRANGEMENT AND ONE WHERE THE MENTAL HEALTH

PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THEY HAVE RESTRICTIONS CONTRACTUALLY. I WOULD NEVER ELIMINATE MHI DPRSHGZ BEING PART OF THE PROCESS.

THE REASON WE HIRED GONZALEZ IS TO HAVE A LIAISON FOR MENTAL HEALTH. WHICH HE HAS DONE TO MY KNOWLEDGE. IF HE HAVEN'T, THEN WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT. SO IT IS CONTRACTUALLY.

THEY ARE SAYING THEY HAVE ISSUES CONTRACTUALLY WHAT THEY CAN OR CANNOT PAY FOR. LOOK AT THE CONTRACT A DIFFERENT WAY AND ALWAYS INCLUDE THEM AND MAYBE THE CONTRACT NEEDS TO BE WITH YOU AND ADVISE YOU. I DON'T KNOW.

THIS IS NOT WHAT WE PAID FOR. >> COMMISSIONER, WE ARE OPEN TO REVISITING THAT RNGMENT. I DO NOT SUGGEST THAT BE LEAPFROG DIRECTLY TO THAT UNTIL THIS CONTRACT THAT MHID AND THE

COUNTY WORKS ON TO GET SETTLED. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE CONTRACT AND SEES WHAT IT SAYS AND GO

FROM THERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: MARK.

>> YES, MA'AM. IF I MAY JUMP IN COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, AND THE COURT AS A WHOLE.

LET ME ECHO JOHNNY'S PERSPECTIVE.

BECAUSE I THINK WE ARE IN A POSITION WHERE THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY A PROBLEM THAT CANNOT BE SOLVED.

AGAIN, WE JUST FINISHED PUTTING SOME OF THE PRELIMINARILY FINAL LANGUAGE ON THIS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

I THINK TO ECHO HIS PERSPECTIVE, IF I HAVE MAY SUGGEST COMING TOGETHER TO FINISH THIS CONVERSATION TO SEE HOW IT CAN BE RECTIFIED BECAUSE I DO THINK IF WE TAKE IT FROM A BROADER

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SCOPE PICTURE PAUSE I KNOW DISCUSSIONS AS PART OF THIS WAS SIX, NOW FOUR, NOW ONLY TWO. THE REASONING BEHIND THAT IS A VERY GOOD ONE. AND THAT IS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WITH THE CLOUD NINE SOFTWARE BEING BROUGHT IN AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, WE ARE ABLE TO PUT THE CIT MODEL IN PLACE WITH OFFICERS THAT ALREADY EXIST.

SO THAT WHEN THEY ARE INTERACTING WITH THESE CIRCUMSTANCES STANCES, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE A SPECIALIZED TEAM. AND THE COMPONENT OF UTILIZING THIS TECHNOLOGY TO PUT MHID'S CLINICIANS IN THE HANDS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY NEGATES THE NEED FOR SO MANY DEDICATED TEAMS OF IN-PERSON RESPONDERS WHICH IS THE CO-RESPONDER MODEL THAT WE FOUNDED WHEN WE FIRST ROLLED THIS OUT FOUR YEARS AGO. THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH BEST PRACTICES THROUGHOUT THE NATION IN UTILIZE THIS BECAUSE THE ALTERNATIVE IS MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE SP SIX DEDICATED MHID, SIX TIMES THE COST AND TO PUT IT IN PLACE WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT IS ALREADY INTERACTING THEN YOU HAVE A MUCH BROADER RESPONSE TO IT THE ISSUES WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS IN THE COMMUNITY.

FROM A DOLLAR AND CENTS PERSPECTIVE, I SUGGEST THAT WE REVISIT THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN MHID AND THE COUNTY AND THE CONTRACT WITH MARY AS WE SPEAK AND SHE MADE FINAL REVISIONS AND SENT BACK SOME FINAL REVIEW ON THAT.

NOTHING HAS BEEN SEENED AND NOTHING FORMALLY EXECUTED.

SO I THINK IF IT IS AMENABLE TO THE COURT, WE CAN REVISIT THAT DISCUSSION AT YOUR EARLIEST CONVE

CONVENIENCE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SOUNDS

GOOD TO ME. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, THANK

YOU. >> COMMISSIONERS, YOU WERE ASKING THE POSITION WE CURRENTLY HAVE --

>> CAN'T HEAR YOU. >> AT THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE.

WE TRANSFER THE TWO FOLKS FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO IT THE CONSTABLE OFFICE, AND BOTH OF THOSE POSITIONS ARE CURRENTLY FILLED. CURRENTLY IN THE BUDGET INCLUDED THE TWO ADDITIONAL MENTAL HEALTH POSITIONS, BUT IF THAT THE COURT'S DIRECTION WITH THE BALANCE, WE CAN AMEND THAT TO REMOVE THOSE POSITIONS IF WE WANT.

RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE ANY REIMBURSEMENT FOR ANY OF THE DEPUTIES WE HAVE AND THE POSITIONS WE HAVE THEM IN.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE INCLUDED THE TWO THAT WERE TRANSFERRED ALREADY IN THE BUDGET AND BUDGETED FOR TWO ADDITIONAL DEPUTIES, BUT WHEN WE GET TO THE PROPOSING THE BUDGET, THAT THE POINT WE CAN HAVE THOSE TWO REMO

REMOVED. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: LET'S REMEMBER THAT BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE A REIMBURSEMENT TO THAT, THAT IS NOT WHAT WE AGREED TO.

I THINK WE ARE PAYING FOR TWO MORE THAN WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE PAYING BECAUSE THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE REIMBURSED.

PLEASE DON'T LET ME FORGET. >> THE FIRST THING TO DO IS ASK

ABOUT THAT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE NEED TO BE REIMBURSED FOR THE TWO. NOT REIMBURSED FOR ANY.

I REMEMBER THAT MEETING. THAT TOOK ABOUT FIVE MINUTES BECAUSE IT WAS PRESENTED THAT THESE WERE ALL BEING REIMBURSED.

WE WENT OKAY, GREAT. LET'S GO.

NOT ONE OF THEM IS BEING REIMBURSED.

WE NEED TO GET THAT OTHER INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IN PLACE AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE MENTAL HEALTH PEOPLE.

>> SOMETHING IN THE AGREEMENT THAT THE HOURLY RATE.

AND WE HAVE SEMINOLE PAY FOR EACH OF THE OFFICIALS, THE CONSTABLES. MAY HAVE SENOR ROW PAY AND POLICE OFFICER CERTIFICATION AND JAIL CERTIFICATION SOMETHING OTHER THAN HOURLY RATES JUST TO MOVE US ALONG AND CREATE A SUMMARY. WE HAVE TWO OFFICERS THAT ARE CURRENTLY # EMPLOYED IN OUR BUDGET AND THEY ARE NOW STAYING IN THE BUDGET UNLESS WE MAKE THE DECISION TO DO OTHERWISE AND IN ADDITION AT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IS GETTING FINAL TOUCHES AND ISSUES AND CONCERNS CAN CAN BE FURTHER ADDRESSED WITHIN THE

CONTRACT. >> THE TWO ARE IN THE BUDGET AND INCLUDE THE TWO ADDITIONAL. RIGHT NOW THE PROPOSED BUDGET

INCLUDES FOUR OFFICERS. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL ADDRESS THAT WHEN WE GET TO BUDGET. SO I DON'T THINK THAT THE INTENTION OF THE COURT. WE WILL GET THERE WHEN WE GET THERE. AT LEAST YOU CAN SEE THE ISSUES

THAT COME ABOUT. >> JUDGE, CAN I SAY A FEW WORDS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: SURE. CONSTABLE, GO AHEAD.

>> I GOT IN MY LATE. SORRY I WASN'T THERE TO ATTEND.

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I REITERATE WHAT MARK HAD SAID. MARY ESTHER MADE FINAL ADJUSTMENTS TO THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE THE PAY FOR THE MHID OFFICERS UP TO $120,000 OF WHICH I BELIEVE COVERS MOST DECISIONS AND THE VEHICLE MAINTENANCE, THE TRAINING, THE LONGEVITY PAY THAT THE COUNTY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR, MHID WAS NOT PREPARED TO PAY FOR THAT.

THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT HAVE TO COME OUT OF THE GENERAL BUDGET THAT WE WERE NOT EXPECTING.

AND THE TWO DEPUTIES THAT WERE SLID FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WHY YES, THEY ARE CURRENTLY COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND BUT WE WILL BE REIMBURSED TO HAVE /* MHID.

TO HAVE THEM TWO OFFICERS ON ROTATING SHIFTS WHEN MHID OPERATES THEIR SCHEDULE TO ADJUST PRECINCT TWO SCHEDULE TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR SCHEDULE. WE WILL HAVE TWO -- IT WOULD BE ROTATING. TWO FOR ONE WEEK AND TWO THE NEXT WEEK SO WE DON'T LOSE TWO OFFICERS OFF THE STREET.

>> THANKS, CONSTABLE. WHEN WE GET TO THE ACTUAL BUDGET MAY ASK FOR MORE RESOURCE THERE AND ADDRESS IT.

ANY PROPOSED BUDGET, IT IS PROPOSED.

THIS IS WHY WE PROPOSE IT. AND THEN WE GET TO WORK ON IT.

AND I AM GLAD THAT WE BROUGHT IT UP.

AND, AGAIN, LET'S -- LET'S END WITH POSITIVE.

THE SPIRIT OF THIS IS TO IMPROVE ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN OUR COMMUNITY, A TREND THAT HAS BEEN ONGOING SINCE LATE BEGINNING IN 2018 AND ROLLER COASTERING UNTIL TODAY.

A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHY YOUR HOSPITAL DISTRICT IS SO VALUABLE AND IMPORTANT. THERE ARE MAJOR CRISES IN THIS COUNTRY WITH ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE BUT NO GREATER CRISIS HAPPENING INSIDE THE STATE OF TEXAS OF THAT WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE -- AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PARTICULARLY IT APPLIES TO SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDER. WE ARE WITH YOU AND THE SPIRIT OF IT. BUT, AGAIN, THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS. AND WE TRULY NEED TO HAMMER SOME OF THESE ISSUES OUT. JOHNNY, WHAT YOU ARE HEARING IS THE ANGST THAT HAPPENED WITH THE -- IT WAS NOT MISCOMMUNICATION.

IT WAS LITERALLY NOT A MEETING OF THE MINDS.

THIS COURT THOUGHT X. AND Y WAS HAPPENING.

AND ONCE IT WAS REVEALED TO US THAT WE WEREN'T BEING REIMBURSED, WE CAME INTO A NEW OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP. I THINK WE CAN WORK THROUGH IT IS AN AMAZING PROGRAM AND WE DON'T WANT TO PREPARE -- I MEAN, WE NEED TO PREPARE, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET APPROPRIATELY, FOR

BOTH OF US. >> I WANTED TO HELP YOU SUPPLEMENT TO HELP YOU FINISH IT OFF, THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO, WE NEVER WOULD HAVE A DISCUSSION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HELPING MENTAL HEALTH AND RECEIVING CROSS TRAINING AND US PUTTING MONEY INTO TECHNOLOGY TO SPREAD OUT THEIR SKILLS IN THAT REGARD.

SO I DO, JUDGE, AGREE WITH YOU AND THE COURT THAT WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY. LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A DISCUSSION THAT WE NEVER WOULD HAVE HAD IN PAST YEARS.

BUT NOW WE ARE TO THE POINT OF HAVING IT TAMPA AND WADING THROUGH THESE AND I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT WE ARE HUNG UP ON POSITIONS BUT IN THE BROADER COPE, WE HAVE MADE TREMENDOUS PROGRESS AND WE HAVE CONSTABLES AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND OTHER WHO ARE COMMITTED OF PUTTING TRAINED OFFICERS ON THE STREETS IN TRAINED AND MENTAL HEALTH AND THAT IS A BIG STEP, JUDGE. THANK YOU, ALL.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ONE MORE THING.

JUST AS WE IMPLEMENTED IN PRECINCT TWO, WE RESPONDED TO OVER 400 CALLS IN SERVICE FOR MENTAL HEALTH PURPOSES JUST TO

PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS A VERY GOOD -- VERY GOOD DATA POINT. OKAY.

SUPER. ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU, GUYS, AGAIN FOR THE ROBUST DISCUSSION.

WE ARE GOING TO MARK THE TIME AT 12:43.

HIS SANDS FOR THE CLOSING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ONLY.

WE WILL GET INTO OUR BUDGET DISCUSSION SHORTLY.

I AM GOING TO RECONVENE THIS REGULAR MEETING AT 12:44.

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AND ASK THAT YOU GO AND FOLLOW ALONG.

WE HAVE ALREADY COMPLETED ITEM H, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DO A FEW MORE ITEMS BEFORE WE GET TO SOME REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS.

[1. In recognition of Govind Nadkarini, P.E., receiving the 2022 Distinguished Service Award with Special Commendation, as presented by the National Council of Examiners for Engineering and Surveying (NCEES) for serving his profession with distinction.]

AND IN PARTICULAR, I WOULD CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO ITEM I-1, IN RECOGNITION OF GOVIND NADKARINI, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER WHO RECEIVED THE -- THIS HAS BEEN THE NATIONAL CHAMPION DAY.

JUST SO YOU KNOW IT. YOU MAY HAVE MISSED IT EARLIER, GOKIND, IF YOU ARE A NATIONAL CHAMPION YOU BELONG IN NUECES COUNTY COURT ROOM. WE WILL EXPLAIN LATER.

BUT AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE YOU.

YOU RECEIVED THE 2022 DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARD WITH SPECIAL COMMENDATION AS PRESENTED BY THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF EXAMINERS FOR ENGINEERING NCEES.

A VERY DISTINGUISHED AWARD THAT IS GIVEN TO PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER WHO HAVE SERVED THEIR PROFESSION WITH DISTINCTION.

AND I WOULD ASK BELINDA TO PLEASE READ FOR THE PUBLIC AND

THE COURT. >> SO, YES, JUDGE RFRN, AS YOU SAID WE ARE RECOGNIZING THE PRESTIGIOUS AWARD AND I WILL READ A LITTLE BIT OF THE ACCOMPLISH THAT BROUGHT HIM HERE. HE RECEIVED THE DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARD FROM THIS ORGANIZATION BACK IN 2012.

SO NOW HE IS GETTING IT WITH SPECIAL COMMENDATION.

THIS -- THIS IS THE SECOND TIME HE IS RECEIVING THIS.

HE WAS APPOINTED TO THE TEXAS BOARD OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS AND LAND SURVIVORS IN 2000 AND SERVED AS 2012.

AS AMERITUS MENTOR, SERVES TO BOARD MEMBERS PROVIDING VALUABLE INFORMATION AND HIS FOR SCHOOL KNOWLEDGE OF BOARD OPERATIONS.

HIS ADVICE WAS PARAMOUNT DURING THE SUNSET REVIEW OF THE SURVEYING BOARDS IN 2019. HE HAS BEEN INTEGRAL IN SEVERAL ACTIVITIES WITH THE BOARD INCLUDING INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS WITH SOUTH KOREA. HE HAS PARTICIPATED IN THE ACCREDITATION BOARD OF ENGINEERING ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD AND A LIAISON TO VARIOUS ENGINEERING GROUPS FOR OUTREACH EFFORTS IN THE COASTAL SOUTH TEXAS AREA.

HE IS ALSO INVOLVED IN ENGINEERING OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT FOR UNIVERSITIES. SINCE 2012, HE SERVED ON T THE NCEES COMMITTEE TASK FORCE INCLUDING THE COMMITTEE ON EXAMINATION POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.

COMMITTEE ON EXAMINATIONS FOR PROTECTIONAL ENGINEERS AND THE INDUSTRIAL EXEMPTION TASK FORCE. HE IS AN ADVOCATE FOR PROFESSIONS IN LICENSURE. HIS EFFORTS HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED BY MANY INCLUDING A U.S. REPRESENTATIVE GIVING HIM CONGRESSIONAL RECOGNITION FOR OUTSTANDING AND INVALUABLE SERVICE. THE TEXAS ENGINEERING FOUNDATION RECOGNIZED HIM ENGINEER OF THE FOUNDATION FOR HIS DISTINGUISHED SERVICE IN TEXAS A&M CORPUS CHRISTI HAVE ADDED HIM TO THEIR WALL OF FAME ON THE CAMPUS. WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, WE WOULD

LIKE FOR HIM TO TAKE THE PODIUM. >>JUDGE CANALES: THIS IS WHERE BEFORE DO YOU THAT, WE DO THIS. [APPLAUSE] I DON'T WANT TO DATE YOU, BUT TELL EVERYBODY HOW LONG YOU HAVE BEEN TRULY SERVING THE ENGINEERING COMMUNITY.

>> IN CORPUS CHRISTI, '75. SINCE '75, ALMOST 47 YEARS INVOLVED IN THE ENGINEERING PROFESSION.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS REMARKABLE BUT IS YOU HAVE A GREAT WAY OF MENTORING YOUNG ENGINEERS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE ENGINEERS THAT ARE OLDER TODAY, I BET ONCE IN A WHILE YOU SAY, OH, HE WORKED FOR ME.

SHE WORKED FOR ME. SHE WORKED FOR ME.

THEY SEEM TO GRAVITATE TO YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE BECOME A GREAT MENTOR FOR YOUNG ENGINEERS AS WELL.

AND WERE WE ARE WORK WITH YOU AT THE COUNTY BUT YOU WORKED WITH EVERY SINGLE POLITICAL SUBDIVISION I WOULD IMAGINE IN THE COASTAL BEND AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER.

>> JUDGE, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

I HAVE WORKED WITH MOST EVERY COMMUNITY IN SOUTH TEXAS AND OUT OF STATE OF AND OUT OF COUNTRY. I WAS LOOKING -- HE WAS VERY FAMILIAR WITH CTREC. AND I REMEMBER HIM -- I WILL QUOTE IF YOU DON'T MIND, WHEN -- WHEN THEY WERE GIVING US FUNDING FOR EXPANSION BECAUSE OUR COMPANY WAS HONORED BY INC 500 WHICH IS THE 500 FASTEST GROWING COUNTIES.

AND THE COUNCIL ASKED HIM THE QUESTION THAT YOU JUST CAME HERE FROM LOUISIANA IF GOVIND WAS IN LOUISIANA, WOULD YOU CONSIDER HIM FOR THIS FUNDING. AND HIS COMMENT WAS, YES,

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ABSOLUTELY, I WISH HE WAS THERE AT THE TIME BUT I AM GLAD HE IS HERE. AND I REMEMBER THAT.

AND YOU KNOW I WORKED WITH MOST OF COMMISSIONERS INCLUDING YOU IN DIFFERENT ASPECTS. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY LONG TIME BECAUSE HE WAS AT THE COUNCILMEMBER.

AND ALSO COMMISSIONER MAREZ. HE WAS ON THE COUNCIL.

WE DID A LOT OF WORK FOR CITY AND COUNTY AND INTERNATIONALLY.

SO, YES, YOU ARE RIGHT. THE ONE THING I WOULD ADD THAT I FOUND OUT LATER AFTER THIS HAPPENED.

I AM THE FIRST ONE TOO RECEIVE BOTH AWARDS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. NO ONE HAS RECEIVED THIS AND I CAN COME OUT AND SAY NO ONE WILL RECEIVE IT FOR AN ADDITIONAL EIGHT TO TEN YEARS AND TOP GET THE LAST AWARD THAT I RECEIVED YOU HAVE TO WAIT EIGHT TO TEN YEARS BEFORE YOU ARE QUALIFIED TO GET THAT AWARD AFTER THAT SECOND AWARD.

AND THE SAME WAY BEING PROUD OF BEING ASIAN -- INDIAN OR AMERICAN -- I AM GOING NOT AMERICAN INDIAN.

AMERICAN FROM INDIAN ORIGIN. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT SHASH SHAN, THE FIRST TO RECEIVE THAT AWARD. I JUST FOUND THAT OUT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: INCREDIBLE ACCOMPLISHMENT, GOVIND.

YOUR COMMUNITY SERVICE AND SERVING THE COUNTY IN ADDITION TO ALL THE GREAT THINGS YOU DO PROFESSIONALLY, YOU SERVE THE COUNTY IN OUR KRISTA SPAN BOARD. AND ALWAYS WORRYING ABOUT ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE IS. TO HAVE A CHAMPION LIKE YOURSELF IS REALLY AMAZING. NONE OF THIS WILL BE POSSIBLE, RIGHT, WITHOUT THE LOVE AND SUPPORT OF --

>> YES, MA'AM, I WAS GOING TO MENTION THAT.

AND YOU WILL EVEN COME AND SAY -- WHEN I GOT MY FIRST AWARD -- THIS IS MY THIRD AWARD. WHEN -- I THANKED EVERYONE BUT FORGOT TO RECOGNIZE MY WIFE. THAT WAS A BIG MISTAKE AND I HAD TO PAY A BIG PRICE FOR THAT. AND MARRIED PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. BUT I WANT TO RECOGNIZE MY WIFE OF 45 YEARS.

NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE WHEN I WAS EXPANDING IN MY CAREER THE CHILDREN -- SHE WAS THE ONE THAT TOOK CARE OF THEM. AND I DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING ON THE HOMEFRONT. MORE INVOLVED IN THE PROFESSOR SIDE. ALL CREDIT GOES TO HER.

WITHOUT HER, I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY WIFE AGAIN AND AGAIN.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, I HAVE KNOWN GOVIND TO FOR SO LONG, WE NEED TO GIVE IT HAD HIS WIFE.

IT IS WELL DESERVED. YOU HAVE BEEN A DISTINGUISHED CITIZEN FOR MANY, MANY YEARS IN COMMUNITY AND WE APPRECIATE IT.

I CONGRATULATE YOU FOR WHY OUTSTANDING RECOGNITION.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THANK

YOU FOR ALL YOU DO. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WOULD LIKE TO CELEBRATE WITH THE COUNTY WITH A PHOTO WITH YOU AND YOUR WIFE. HERE AT THE DAIS BUT IT IS EXCEPTIONAL YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND WE WANT TO SHOUT IT OUT FROM THE MOUNTAINTOPS. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US HERE TODAY AND ALLOWING US TO HONOR THIS VERY PRESTIGIOUS

DISTINCTION YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN. >> WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT.

BELINDA, MAY I IMPOSE UPON YOU. MAGEE OR WILL YOU BE SO KIND TO DO IT.

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>>JUDGE CANALES: IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I AM GOING TO ASK LOUIE

TO HOLD HERE -- >> JUDGE, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR THIS RECOGNITION.

APPRECIATE IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, GOVIND. HE IS LIKE MADONNA.

YOU NEED TO KNOW HIM BY ONE NA NAME, GOVIND. I AM GOING TO HOLD ON THE

[1. Nueces County Civil Service Commission]

GENERAL INFORMATION REPORT FOR THAT REASON AND JUST ASK THAT WE SWIFTLY MOVE THROUGH BOARD APPOINTMENTS.

ITEM K-1, NUECES COUNTY CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION.

I NEED TO SWITCH TO THAT. SO ROW PER TOE TOMEZ AND JACOB FLOYD AND ONE VACANCY. DECEMBER 31.

AGAIN, THE ONE VACANCY FOR THIS CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION.

WE HAVE SEVERAL APPLICATIONS. ONE IS MR. JOSE BEREA.

ONE IS ALBERTO CARILLO III. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I

NOMINATE MR. CARILLO. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I

SECOND IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WANT TO CONFIRM BUT SHE IS NOT THERE, THE TWO THAT ARE SERVING HAVE ALSO DESIGNATED THEIR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE AGAIN? I AM NOT SURE. I DIDN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE ON TODAY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IT'S 23. WE ARE STILL ON '22.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUST A VACANCY, JUDGE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

I WAS LOOKING FOR THE WRONG YEAR.

FOR THE VACANCY. A MOTION TO HAVE MR. CARILLO

SERVE. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ:

SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: AND THERES A SECOND. OKAY.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION AT ALL? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I THINK MR. CARILLO WILL DO A GOOD JOB. HE ALWAYS WILL VOLUNTEER AND DO CERTAIN THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY. AND I THINK HE WILL BE AN ASSET TO THE COMMISSION. SO I WENT AHEAD AND NOMINATED MR. CARILL OO FOR THE SERVICE SERVICE IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION AT ALL? IS MR. CARILLO WITH US TODAY? NO? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

[1. August 29, 2022 September 1, 2022]

OKAY. HOW ABOUT THE MINUTES OF AUGUST 29 AND SEPTEMBER 1. YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE?

>> SO MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: IS THERE A

SECOND. >> SECOND.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ANY DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR

SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >>JUDGE CANALES: BOTH.

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AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER 1. SORRY KARA.

[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]

OKAY. THE CONSENT AGENDA A ITEMS ARCA THROUGH J AND LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, I NEED TO PULL G.

>>JUDGE CANALES: G IS PULLED. ANY OTHERS.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: F AND J.

? >>JUDGE CANALES: GO THROUGH A-E

AND H AND I. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: SO MOVED.

[F. Authorize execution of Agreement Amendment No. 3 with Absolute Waste Services, Inc for RFP 3081-18 Solid Waste Collection & Disposal Service for County Residents.]

>>JUDGE CANALES: A SECOND. LET'S START, IN ORDER BY ALPHABET, LETTER F. AN AGREEMENT AMENDMENT NUMBER 3 WITH WASTE SERVICES. IS IT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: GONZALEZ.

I WANT TO CLARIFY, A ONE-YEAR EXTENSION, RIGHT?

>>JUDGE CANALES: AIDEE -- I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NEXT OPEN FOR BIDS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: MICHAEL, IF YOU DON'T MIND, APPROACH THE MICROPHONE. THE FINAL RENEWAL AS I UNDERSTAND IT. WILL YOU CONFIRM.

>> THIS IS THE LAST RENEWAL. THE LAST TIME OUT WE WILL HAVE

TO REBID. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY

[G. Authorize execution of agreement with AHI Facility Services, Inc. for RFP No. 3201-22 Janitorial Services.]

SAYING AYE. THANK YOU.

THE NEXT ONE IS THE JANITORIAL SERVICES FROM AAHI.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HE PULLED THIS.

THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAD QUESTIONS OR MIKE OR JUAN --

MICHAEL, SOMEBODY. >> I BELIEVE THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF THE CONTRACT.

AND THE. THIS CONTRACT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY LEGAL. PUBLIC WORKS IS THE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATOR AND PERFORMEDNS FOR THIS SERVICE.

AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS.

WE VISITED WITH DALE. IT IS IN THE BUDGET.

AND IF -- IF FOR COMPARISON SAKE SHE WANTS TO KNOW THE PREVIOUS PROVIDER THAT THE COUNTY HAD -- HAD REQUESTED A PRICE INCREASE.

AND THIS PRICE INCREASE IS -- COMPARED TO WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH TODAY IS ABOUT 5% DIFFERENT.

A COMPETITIVE NUMBER. IT IS -- A LARGER NUMBER THAN WE

HAD BEFORE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHERE IS

THE EXTRA FUNDING COME FROM. >> BUDGETING OUT OF OUR NORMAL SERVICES. THIS IS COVERING MANY FUNDS.

COVERS MANY LOCATIONS. THE MAJORITY OF THE COST WILL BE

FUNDED THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO WHAT

-- >> IT WAS AT 300 INCREASE TOTAL COMPARED TO LAST YEAR. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE JUST MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO COVER THIS CONTRACT.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: OKAY. >>AIDEE: I AM HEARING THAT THEY

ARE COVERING ENOUGH. >> JUAN AND I ARE IN AGREEMENT.

>> I SIGNED OFF ON IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SCOTT

SIGNED OFF ON IT. >> JUST GOT TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER IS TRANSFERRED OVER TO COASTAL PARKS TO COVER IT.

LAST TIME -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SORRY, SCOTT, YOU GOT TO PAY FOR IT, MAN.

>>JUDGE CANALES: SCOTT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, USE THE MICROPHONE.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE -- IT IS BUDGETED, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN IT TRANSFERRED OVER TO COASTAL PARKS TO PROCESS THE INVOICE. WE AGREED THAT JUAN AND DEARLY AND I ALL AGREED THAT WE WOULD PROCESS OUR OWN INVOICES IF THERE IS A SHORTCOMING I AM NOT HOLDING UP PAYMENT IF PERFORMING WELL. ABM JUST QUIT ON US.

WE HAVE BEEN USING THEM FOR TWO MONTHS AND THEY HAVE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB. JUST FYI.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MOVE PASSAGE.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION FROM

[J. Approve Modification No. 7 of Intergovernmental Agreement with the United States Marshals Services related to Nueces County – East Hidalgo Detention Center; Approve Modification No. 6 of Intergovernmental Agreement with the United States Marshals Services related to Nueces County –Coastal Bend Center.]

COMMISSIONER CHESNEY AND SECOND BY GONZALEZ.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. LAST ONE IS ITEM J.

INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATED TO COST FROM THE MARSHAL SERVICES OR THE EAST HIED DETENTION CENTER.

APPROVAL OF A MODIFICATION ENTITLED NUMBER 6.

U.S. MARSHAL'S IN NUECES COUNTY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I THOUGHT WE WILL ALREADY APPROVED THIS HERE, BUT DIDN'T -- DIDN'T WE FIGURE -- DIDN'T WE APPROVE THE OTHER $460,000 FOR THE YEAR.

>> TWO LOCATIONS. WE HAVE THE -- THIS LOCATION.

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THE OTHER ONE IS THE ONE LOCAL. THIS IS THE ONE DOWN IN HIED

COUNTY. >> AND THIS, WHAT, $72 PER DAY?

AND 7 FOR TRANSPORT? >> THAT IS THE HOUSING THIS HE CHARGE. WE GET A PERCENTAGE OF THAT SAVINGS. WE GET TO -- FOR THE COUNTY FOR REVENUE SO RIGHT NOW, THAT VICE PRESIDENT CHANGE FOR US AT THE MOMENT. AND FOR NOW BECAUSE OF OUR JAIL, WE HAVE A UNION THAT HAS A -- HAVE THE COST GOES UP AND THE

RATES HAVE TO GO UP. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SO

MOVED. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SECOND.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. OKAY.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR CONSENT AGENDA FOR THE DAY.

AND WE WILL MOVE INTO REGULAR AGENDA.

AS YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY ADVANCED WITH THE METROCOM ACTIVITIES, SO ITEM 3-A-1 IS DONE AND TO ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THE FOLKS HERE ALL MORNING LONG, WE WILL GET TO BUDGET AND TO OUR TAX RATES, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADVANCE ITEM NUMBER 9, 10 AND 11. 10 AND 11 AT THE REQUEST OF MISS SANDS AND 9 AT THE REQUEST OF MYSELF BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN

[9. Discuss and consider use of American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) to fund Broken Chains Recovery Center.]

HERE FOR QUITE A WHILE THIS MORNING.

ITEM NUMBER 9 IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE USE OF ARMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT TO BREAK THE BROKEN CHAINS RECOVERY CENTER.

WE HAD QUITE A ROBUST SHOW OF SUPPORT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT PLANNED REID IS HERE AND WANTED TO PLAY -- I THINK IT IS A

90-SECOND VIDEO FOR US. >> A MINUTE AND A HALF.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THERE WE GO. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE

CAN YOU LAY IT OUT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL DESCRIBE IT AS WE ARE GETTING SET UP. AS YOU KNOW I HAVE BEEN WORK WITH DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP FULFILL THE -- THE WISHES OF THE COMMUNITY -- HERE WE GO AND THE HOMELESSNESS INITIATIVE RANKS VERY, VERY HIGH ON OUR COMMUNITY ONLINE SURVEY AND THE HALLS. THE ASK IS $300,000 FROM THE COUNTY JUDGE'S ARPA ALLOCATION TO HELP ESTABLISH THIS NEW

CENTER. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, I

WILL MOVE PASSAGE OF A THAT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SECOND.

>>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AND A SECOND AND INDULGE MR. REID FOR THE 90 SECONDS. WILL YOU PLAY IT.

AND THEN I WILL TAKE THE VOTE. ♪

>>> THIS PHOTOGRAPH HERE, JUDGE AND OF THE NEXT PHOTOGRAPH IS OF THE PROPERTY WE ARE TRYING TO BUY AT THIS TIME.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, MR. REID.

OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A LOT OF -- I ALWAYS MENTION THIS TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS. ONCE WE TAKE A VOTE ON THE ALLOCATION, IT IS THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS.

WE WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE RIGHT AGREEMENT, THE RIGHT ELIGIBILITY IS CONFIRMED AND ALSO THE RIGHT CONTRACTS ARE -- ARE REVIEWED AND DEVELOPED. BUT TODAY IS A DAY TO SAY THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE A GREAT NEED IN THIS ARENA.

YOU SEEM TO BE FILLING IT. ALTHOUGH WE ARE AT A MAXIMUM IN

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THIS NEW PROPERTY AS I UNDERSTAND IT WILL BE ABLE TO EXPAND THE SERVICES. AND PROVIDE HOPE FOR SO MANY WHO ARE POINTLESS IN THEIR LIVES. ANY QUESTION FOR THIS PROJECT AND MR. REID BECAUSE, AGAIN, I BET YOU WILL BE PACK HERE WHEN WE DO CONSUMMATE THE CONTRACT MANY TIMES.

BUT IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I KNOW HE WOULD BE HAPPY TO BE H HERE.

BY THE WAY WE MAY WANT TO TALK ABOUT OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE $300,000. THE NICE THING OF THE $#00,000, THAT IS ALMOST SERVES AS THAT CHALLENGE GRANT TO GO OUT AND COMPLETE THAT MISSION AND, OF COURSE, THAT WILL NEED TO HAPPEN TO SEE THIS RECOVERY CENTER FULFILLED.

>> WE ARE KIND OF ANXIOUS AT THIS POINT, JUDGE, BECAUSE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS THREATENING TO TAKE IT OFF THE MARKET, BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HAD ANY RESPONSE.

THE WHOLE FACILITY THERE IS READY TO GO RIGHT NOW WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THREE ROOMS THAT HAVE FOUNDATIONAL PROBLEMS THAT WAS I HAVE TO THE SIDE. IN JUST TWO OF THOSE ROOMS, I HAVE ALREADY LAID OUT DESIGNED HOW I CAN PUT 20 GUYS IN THE ONE ROOM WITH SHOWERS AND REST RANTS ROOMS. AND THE OTHER HALF OF THE OTHER BUILDING, WE HAVE ROOM FOR 12 FEMALES AND KITCHEN. ALL IN JUST TWO ROOMS OF THAT BUILDING. SO THERE IS SO MUCH AVAILABLE.

THERE IS 5.3 ACRES. SO MUCH ROOM TO EXPAND AND EVERYTHING. AND IT IS WAY UNDER MARKET.

YOU KNOW. COVID ACTUALLY SET US BACK A LITTLE BIT IN 2020. WE WERE RUNNING ABOUT 10,000 A YEAR. 2020, WE DROPPED DOWN TO 6,000.

AND NOW WE ARE BACK UP AGAIN. LAST YEAR LIKE I SAID WE DID 13,354. THE NEED IS OUT THERE.

AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, PEOPLE CALLING EVERY DAY THAT NEED HULL HELP. THAT IS ONE THE PAINFUL THINGS FOR ME TO SAY NO TO SOMEBODY AND THEY HAVE NO PLACE TO GO EXCEPT UNDER A BRIDGE. AND I -- EXCUSE ME.

I HAVE A HARD TIME DEALING WITH THAT.

BUT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, JUDGE, UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE WANTS

TO ASK A QUESTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU, AGAIN. HOPE THIS MAKES A MARK IN THE HOMELESSNESS ISSUE THAT IS PREVALENT IN SO MANY URBAN CENTERS. AND WE ARE NO EXCEPTION.

IF NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

CONGRATULATIONS, THE WORK BEG

BEGINS. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE ARE GOING TO ASK THOSE WHO ARE HERE TO LAY OUT -- WHICH IS REALLY MISS SANDS ITEMS 10 AND 11. THAT WE WILL PUT THOSE FORTH AND

[10. Discuss and consider establishing the Early Voting Polling Locations for the November 8, 2022, General Election.]

THE FIRST ONE IS THE EARLY VOTING POLLING LOCATIONS.

THEY ARE IN YOUR NOTEBOOK, I BELIEVE.

OR WE CAN PUT THEM ON THE SCREEN.

THE EARLY VOTING POLLING LOCATIONS FOR NOVEMBER 8, 2022.

>> YOU ALREADY APPROVED YOUR LOCATIONS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT. THE DEL MAR ECONOMIC --

>> NO, IT WAS -- WHAT Y'ALL ASKED WAS THE SCHOOLS SAID NO.

WHICH, AGAIN, WE ARE TRYING -- WE ARE TRYING TO GET BACK FROM SCHOOLS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. I THINK IT WAS THE TIMES.

YOU WANTED ME TO MAKE SOME CALLS WHICH I HAVE ABOUT THE TIMES.

SO SI -- I RECOMMEND KEEPING THE SAME TIMES FOR THE SELECTION THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE FOR REASONS BEING THERE ARE SEVERAL LOCATIONS CANNOT ACCOMMODATE THE FIRST WEEK FROM 7 TO 7.

BY LAW, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME HOURS.

YOU CAN'T HAVE A FEW PLACES 8 TO 5 AND OTHERS 7 TO 7.

HAVE TO BE THE SAME TIME, UNIFORM.

ALSO FROM THE WORKERS. >>JUDGE CANALES: QUESTION FOR YOU. WE ARE GOING TO BIFURCATE IT.

GO BACK TO THE SCHOOL PIECE FIRST, SO YOU DON'T MIND.

TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS CLARITY. THERE WAS A REQUEST TO LOOK AT

TWO LOCATIONS. >> CORRECT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: MILLER HIGH SCHOOL OR DRISCOL MIDDLE SCHOOL, ONE OF THE TWO. THEY SAID NO.

I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT. >> THEY ARE ELECTION DAY LOCATIONS. KEEP IN MIND.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: CHECKED INTO THAT.

>> YOU APPROVED THEM LAST WEEK. THEY ARE ELECTION DAY.

THE EARLY VOTING LOCATIONS WE HAVE HAD AND COMMISSIONER MAREZ CAN ATTEST TO THIS. WE HAVE OF THE HIGHEST NUMBER --

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ONE OF THE HIGHEST NUMBERS IN THE STATE COMPARED TO OTHER COUNTIES IF YOU LOOK AT PERCENTAGEWISE.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: GO BACK TO THE SCHOOL -- THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DEAL WITH IT ON A TWO-WEEK BASIS.

>> RIGHT. THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONE-DAY EARLY VOTING AND TWO WEEKS WHEN YOU DO NOT HAVE A PLACE THAT IS ACTUALLY AWAY FROM THE STUDENTS, LIKE VETERANS DOES. VETERANS HIGH SCHOOL DOES OR GRANT MIDDLE SCHOOL. YOU ARE NOT GOING IN AND HAVE

ACCESS TO THE STUDENTS. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT ABOUT -- WAS THERE ANY OTHER REQUEST -- I DON'T KNOW WHY I THOUGHT DEL MAR WAS ON THE PERMANENT WHEN WE GET THERE.

>> ALWAYS HAVE BEEN THERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE ECO DIVA

BUILDING. >> THAT IS FOR THE NEXT AGENDA

ITEM. >>JUDGE CANALES: ON THIS ITEM, COMMISSIONERS, ASKED THE COUNTY CLERK TO CHECK OUT THE TWO AND NOT AN AVAILABLE FOR DRISCOL AND FOR MILLER.

SO THE NEXT PIECE OF. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: DO WE

NEED TO PASS THIS? >> YOU ALREADY HAVE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE ALREADY PASSED THE LOCATION.

SHE WENT -- WE SAID IF THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY, WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD, BUT THERE IS NOT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT SCHOOL.

I AM ASKING SO WE CAN BE VERY OPEN MINDED ABOUT IT.

ANY LOCATION IN THAT GENERAL AREA THAT MIGHT COME TO MIND?

>> NEVER, FOR EARLY VOTING. THAT A POINT.

I KNEW THAT THE COMMENT WAS MADE ABOUT THE HOLES.

WELL, THE HOLES ARE FILLED ON ELECTION DAY WHICH 17 TO 7:00.

WE HAVE USED THE SAME LOCATIONS FOR A LONG TIME.

IN FACT THESE ARE THE LOCATIONS THAT THE PARTIES AGREED TO.

AND WANTED TO USE FOR THE PRIMARY AND THE PAST.

WE USED 14 IN ADDITION TO 10 FOR THE PRIMARY.

ALL OF THESE CONCERNS ARE -- THEY HAVEN'T ABOUT AN CONCERN IN THE PAST. AND SO I DON'T.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ANYTHING FAIRNESS THE CONCERN IS NOT A CONCERN, MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THE OPPORTUNITY.

>> WE HAVE ALWAYS. AGAIN, WE HAVE MY STAFF HERE AND WE SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WE DON'T TAKE THESE LOCATIONS LIGHTLY. THE LOCATIONS THAT WE HAVE PUT FORTH, THEY WORK. AND WE ALWAYS WANT TO EXPAND.

THE HOURS I DO NOT RECOMMEND BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF PLANNING BEFORE WAS BE BROUGHT UP THE DAY YOU WERE TO GIVE LOCATIONS.

>>THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS PROVIDED COMMENTARY AND THAT IS WHAT WE WERE REACTING TO. IF QUICK DO 7 TO 7:00, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE COURT WOULD HAVE WANTED TO DO.

HOW ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO 8:00 TO 6:00, THE ONE --

>> STILL AN EXTRA HOUR -- AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO THINK OF ALL THE LOCATIONS. AN EXTRA HOUR SOUNDS LIKE OH, AN EXTRA HOUR. BUT WE HAVE WORKER THAT HAVE MADE ARRANGEMENTS FOR HUSBANDS AND FOR WIVES -- REMEMBER WE ARE TALKING OLDER POPULATION HERE. THEY ARE RETIRED.

AGAIN, I RECOMMEND THAT YOU JUST KEEP IT THE WAY IT HAS BEEN.

AND WE WORK TOWARD -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NOT SO MUCH ABOUT 6:00. LIKE THE LADY SAID SOMETIMES I'M

HERE UNTIL 7:30 UNTIL 8:00. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: BEFORE

WORK OR AFTER WORK. >>JUDGE CANALES: TYPICALLY AFTER WORK ON THE WAY HOME IS BETTER. LOOK, I THINK WE WANT TO WORK TOWARD A A, DIVERSIFYING OUR WORKFORCE.

BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO VOTING, THE CONVENIENCE IS TO THE VOTER.

THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR, RIGHT.

>> WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE THAT, JUDGE, ALWAYS.

IN MY OFFICE, SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE, WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING -- WE EXPAND THE LOCATIONS.

IMPLEMENTED VOTE CENTERS IN 2016.

MY OFFICE HAS DONE EVERYTHING. WE WORK HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT VOTING IS CONVENIENCE AND EASY FOR VOTERS AND WE HAVE DONE THAT CONSISTENTLY. DIVERSIFYING FORCE IS EASIER SAID THAN DONE. WE TALK OF EARLY VOTING.

THAT IS TWO WEEKS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE ALWAYS HAVE THE FIRST WEEK TO 5:00.

THE PRIMARIES WERE NO PROBLEM. THE SAME TIMES.

SO, YOU KNOW, 10:00 WITH THE SECOND WEEK.

SECOND WEEK TO 7:00. SATURDAY UNTIL 7:00.

I THINK -- I THINK WE LOOKED AT EVERY -- I KNOW I HAVE AND KARA

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HAS. >> AND MY STAFF.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: HELP US OUTS.

THEY ARE GOING -- RTA. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

BECAUSE COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALWAYS DONE

FREE RIDES. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ IN 2016. THAT WAS HIS IDEA TO APPROACH

THEM. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THIS YEAR THEY WILL DO THE FIRST DAY OF EARLY VOTING.

DO THE BUS RIDES AS A PROMOTIONAL TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE ARE KICKING OFF THE ELECTIONS.

SO THE FIRST DAY OF EARLY VOTING THEY WILL PROVIDE THE FREE RIDES. THEN PROVIDE THE FREE RIDES ON

THE GENERAL ELECTION DAY. >> THE B, IT IS ALWAYS FREE FOR ELDERLY AND DISABLED. THEY CAN GET A FREE RIDE.

THE VOTE CENTERS. >> ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED AND RESEARCHED IN WHAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, KARA.

PROPORTIONATELY WE ARE DOING PRETTY WELL.

I CAN ARGUING THAT WE COULD ALWAYS WANT AN INCREASE.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU AND I HAD ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT WHERE WE COULD DO THAT. BUT JUST TO GIVE SOME PERSPECTIVE. BEXAR COUNTY HAVE 35 LOCATIONS.

TRAVIS COUNTY HAS # 2. AND WE HAVE, WHAT, 24?

>> 24. >> NOT TOO BAD.

THEY ARE -- I WILL TELL YOU THAT TRAVIS COUNTY --

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HOW MANY DOES BEXAR HAVE?

>> 35. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: FOUR TIMES OUR SIZE. PRETTY SOLID.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: AND TRAVIS HAS 32.

PRETTY CLOSE NUMBERS AND PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN BEXAR COUNTY. CLOSE.

THEY ARE GROWING. THE THING I LIKE ABOUT TRAVIS COUNTY, THOUGH, THEY KIND OF BREAK IT DOWN BY REGION.

TRAVIS IS SO MUCH OF A BETTER SIZE AND SHAPE AND SO IS BEXAR COUNTY WITH NUECES COUNTY. STRAINING SHAPE AND POPULATION CENTSER IS KIND OF NOT A COMPLETE CIRCLE LIKE YOU HAVE INFORM THOSE TWO COUNTIES. BUT TRAVIS COUNTY, IF YOU PULL IT UPLINE, YOU FIND THAT THERE IS A -- IT IS BROKEN DOWN BY REGION IN THE COUNTY. SO I THINK IT TAKES MORE INTO PERSPECTIVE LIKE -- I KNOW SOME OF THE MEMBERS IN PUBLIC COMMENT HAVE ALREADY MENTIONED SOME OF THE PUBLIC AS FAR AS CENTRAL PART, NORTH PARK EAST, WEST. SO I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE STRIVE FOR. I AGREE WITH THE STATEMENT THAT SOME AREAS ARE MISSING OUT. SOME WILL BE CLOSER.

SOME ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE MOVED BECAUSE OF ROAD CONSTRUCTION OR OTHER CONSTRUCTION THAT WE HAVE GOING ON BUT I LOVE TRAVIS COUNTY'S MODEL.

A LOT OF COUNTIES HAVE CAUGHT UP WHAT WE ARE DOING IN NUECES COUNTY. BUT IN THE LISTING AND GOING TO WHAT RTA IS DOING FOR US. TRAVIS COUNTY POINTS OUTS WHICH LOCATIONS ARE WITHIN FIVE MINUTES OR LESS DISTANCE FROM A BUS STOP. I THINK THAT IS A LITTLE BIT REASSURANCE TO A PERSON. HOW DO I MAP THIS OFF AND GET TO WHERE I NEED TO GO TO PUT IT ON THE LIST.

SO IT IS MORE BASED ON REGIONS AND PARTS OF THE COUNTY.

AND THE -- THE BUSING, INCLUDING PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW AM I GOING TO GET THERE IF NEED BE. AND SOMETHING CALLED MEGA CENTERS. I DON'T KNOW IF OURS WILL BE CONSIDERED MEGA CENTERS ALREADY. SOME ARE REAL SMALL AND SOME ARE A LOT LARGER. IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO THAT FOR THE FUTURE BECAUSE THE NEXT ELECTION WILL BE UP BEFORE WE KNOW IT. WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT IT BEFORE THE END OF NEXT YEAR. IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THOSE, HE WILL BE REALLY BE INTERESTED IN WANTING TO HAVE THAT KIND OF BROUGHT TO NUECES COUNTY. BECAUSE THERE ARE GOOD IDEAS THERE. THAT IS MY BIGGEST PART, LOOKING AT THE MAP, MAKE SURE WE ARE MAPPING OUT GEOGRAPHICALLY MORE REPRESENTATIVES OF WHAT IS THERE.

>> WE DO. WE HAVE IS A GOOG M MAP ALREADY.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

I GET THAT HAVING BEEN ON THE SCHOOL BOARD AND SCHOOLS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. I CAN PICTURE -- I HAVE BEEN TO TO HE WAS SCHOOLS AND NOT SET UP TO SAFETY.

YOU CAN NOT GET ACCESS TO THE BUILDING WITHOUT COME INTO CONTACT WITH STUDENTS AND STAFF. I AGREE ON SOME OF THOSE.

DEL MAR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CENTER WAS A GREAT LOCATION.

THAT IS A GOOD ALTERNATIVE TO THE CENTER ON ELECTION DAY.

>> THE NEXT ONE I NEED YOU TO CHANGE.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS.

I WOULD HOPE -- I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WE TAKE ON -- LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT ALMOST A YEAR AGO WHEN WE DID OUR REDISTRICTING FOR COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT THERE BE A RESIDENT COMMITTEE.

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I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE A RESIDENT COMMITTEE AS WELL TO CONTRIBUTE INFORMATION. I KNOW THE PARTIES DO A GREAT JOB AND GREAT FOR THEIR PRIMARIES AND COORDINATION WITH YOU. BUT IF WE CAN INCLUDE MORE RESIDENTS. JUST EVERYDAY RESIDENTS THAT CAN HELP CONTRIBUTE TO SOME OF THAT PLANNING I THINK THAT WILL BE

HELPFUL AS WELL. >> COMMISSIONER, WE GET THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY WITH CALLS. I PROMISE.

JUST SO YOU KNOW. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I AGREE.

WE GET PHONE CALLS TOO. BUT WE CAN HAVE A MEETING TO SET UP JUST AS EASILY AS WE HAVE PLANNED THE NEXT TIME WE REDISTRICT IN THE COUNTY. NO QUESTIONS AS FAR AS TRANSPARENCY OR FEARNESS. I AM NOT MAKING THOSE STATEMENTS. THAT HAS BEEN MADE.

LOOK I GET YOU. YOU GET VERY PROTECTIVE.

NOT A SHOT AT YOU. IF PEOPLE OUT THERE HAVE GOOD IDEAS. LET'S INCLUDE THEM.

INCLUDE THEM IN THE PROCESS. A WORK IN PROGRESS AND WHY YOU DON'T WANT TO DELIVER THAT INFORMATION TOO EARLY AND STILL A TENTATIVE LIST. I THINK IF WE CAN INCLUDE THE PUBLIC, THEN THERE IS NO CHANCE OF ANYONE BEING I BELIEVE TO SAY, LOOK, THIS HAVEN'T BEEN A FAIR PROCESS.

I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO INCLUDE MY INPUT ON THIS.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IN THE FUTURE.

SO JUST A SUGGESTION. I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONSIDER AS WE GET CLOSER TO THAT.

THAT IS A GOOD IDEA. PLAN FOR THE NEXT ELECTION.

WE ALWAYS FORGET OR PLAN. SET UP SOMETHING TO HAVE IN PLACE AND I SAID US BECAUSE A PROBLEM WITH REDISTRICTING.

WE SAID MAN, WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS AND GIVE SUR AVENUES A SHORT WINDOW TO PLAN FOR. WE GOT TO TALK ABOUT THIS OUT LOUD SO IT CAN BE DOCUMENTED AND SO AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE IMPORTANT DAYS, WE CAN PLAN FOR THEM.

THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FOR US.

TRAVIS COUNTY IS A GREAT EXAMPLE HOW THEY BREAK IT DOWN OF PARTICULAR REGIONS IN THE COUNTY AND THAT WILL BE HELPFUL TO ELIMINATE ANY ARGUMENTS THAT MAY BE SNAP MADE THAT CERTAIN PARTS OF THE COUNTY WILL NOT BE INCLUDED AS A VOTE CENTER, THANK

YOU. >> COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOUR SUGGESTIONS. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT IT IS INTERESTING THAT ALL OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS ARE COMING RIGHT HERE IN THE ELECTION. AND I DO KIND OF TAKE THAT AS A DIG. BECAUSE, AGAIN, MY OFFICE IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. ANYONE WHO COMES IN WITH IDEAS AND SUGGESTIONS, WE HEAR THEM EVERY DAY.

WE TAKE THEM IN EVERY DAY. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: DON'T TAKE IT PERSONAL. JUST OFFERING CONVERSATIONS.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: YOU WANTS ME TO TAKE A DIG, I CAN BE VERY PARTISAN. DON'T TAKE IT AS A DIG.

I NEVER ACTED LIKE THAT IN THIS COURT, SO DON'T EVEN GO THERE.

DON'T. >> WELL, YOU HAVE.

YOU HAVE. THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

BUT YOU HAVE. >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION.

I WOULD LIKE TO GET MY INPUT. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO CLERK CONTACTED OF MILLER HIGH SCHOOL AND DRISCOL.

>> WE SPEAK TO CCSID. SIR, YOU ARE A TEACHER.

SCHOOL SAFETY. YOU SAID IT YOURSELF.

YOU HAVE TO GO INTO MILLER AND INTO THE LIBRARY.

>> HAVE YOU BEEN INTO MILLER? >> YES, I HAVE BEEN INTO MILLER.

>> A REAL QUICK TURN TO THE RIGHT.

AND THERE ARE OTHER SCHOOLS THAT ARE ON THERE.

IF YOU ARE CONCERNED WITH SAFETY, WHY DO YOU HAVE OTHER

SCHOOLS LIKE MEMORIAL. >> VETERANS AWAY I FROM THE STUDENTS AND AN AUDITORIUM IN THE BACK.

AND WE DISCUSSED THIS. >> HOW CLOSE IS THE LIBRARY TO THE STUDENTS? DO YOU KNOW THE SCHOOL? I DO. I WENT TO SCHOOL THERE.

>> I HAVE GONE AND RECRUITED STUDENTS FROM MILLER AND YES, I KNOW THE SCHOOL, SIR. I AM SORRY BUT YOU --

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHAT DO YOU WANT TO KNOW?

>> I WANT TO KNOW WHY IS MILLER BEING SHOVED ASIDE HERE.

THERE IS A COMMUNITY THERE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NOT SHOVED ASIDE. FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION.

>> IT CAN BE EARLY VOTING. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE MAP I

SENT TO YOU? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I LOOKED AT IT. YOU DIDN'T SEND IT TO ME TO

OTHER PEOPLE. >> I SENT IT TO YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I DIDN'T GET IT.

>> YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T LOOK AT IT.

>> YOU GOT IT, BECAUSE I SENT IT TO YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I AM SAYING WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS ALREADY AND HAD THIS YEAR AROUND THE YEAR BEFORE LAST.

AND BEFORE YOU CAME ON BOARD IT WAS DISCUSSED.

A PREER ONE. YOU JUST CAME ON IN JULY.

REALLY START CHANGE A LOT OF THINGS BUT NEXT YEAR, NEXT ELECTION, THIS IS WHERE YOU REALLY NEED TO GET INVOLVED.

>> I THINK RIGHT NOW IS THE TIME TO GET INVOLVED.

AND I THINK MILLER SHOULD HAVE SOME REPRESENTATION HERE.

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MILLER HIGH SCHOOL AND YOU LOOK AT THE BIG HOLE THAT EXISTS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S NOT OVER EACH OTHER.

HOLD ON, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. >> A HOLE THAT EXISTS.

YOU LOOK AROUND THE RAY AREA AND THE MILLER AREA.

THERE IS A GAP IN TERMS OF EARLY VOTING CENTERS.

THAT'S WHY I MAKE THE SUGGESTION.

AND, YES, I AM CONCERNED WITH THE STUDENTS, BUT YOU HAVE FOUR LOCATIONS WHERE YOU HAVE STUDENTS.

YOU HAVE A UNIVERSITY WHERE THERE ARE STUDENTS.

OFF COMMUNITY COLLEGE WHERE THERE ARE STUDENTS.

SO, PLEASE -- I DON'T BELIEVE EXACTLY WHAT -- I THINK THAT THE PARTY CHAIR SUMMED IT UP BEST IN A PERSONAL E-MAIL THAT I AM PRETTY CERTAIN SHE MAY HAVE SENT TO YOU ALL TOO.

OR I CAN FORWARD IT TO YOU. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ARE YOU

TALKING OF COMMUNITY COLLEGE? >> COMMUNITY COLLEGE, KIDS GET

KILLED TOO. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: DEL

MAR. >> AREN'T THEY THREATENED? HER ACCUSATION WAS ABOUT SCHOOL SAFETY.

MILLER HIGH SCHOOL, AS SOON AS YOU WALK IN THAT DOOR, YOU TAKE A RIGHT TURN, AND YOU WILL HIT -- YOU WILL HIT THE LIBRARY.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: BUT THE KIDS GO TO THE LIBRARY.

>> WELL, THEY GO EVERYWHERE, SIR.

EVERYWHERE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: BUT THAT'S WHY THEY ARE TRYING TO FIEND A PLACE WHERE IT WENT BE CONGESTED THAT WAY. FIND A PLACE --

>> WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET IT IN THAT AREA.

I GUESS THAT IS WHAT I AM ASKING.

THAT COMMUNITY EXISTS AS WELL. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU HAVE ASKED A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. LET ME JUST -- EVERYBODY HOLDS.

KARA, ADDRESS THE TWO IS ISSUES CCSID.

>> MR. SEINZ IS AWARE BECAUSE IN CONSTANT CONTACT TO MY STAFF.

THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. YOU DO KNOW AND WE DID TELL YOU, AND YOU HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS.

NOW WHEN YOU ARE SENDING ME TEXT MESSAGES AT 8:30 AT NIGHT AND I DON'T REPLY TO YOU AND THAT UPSETS YOU.

THAT IS INAPPROPRIATE TO DO THAT.

SO YOU DO TALK TO MY STAFF. YOU WERE UPSET BECAUSE I WASN'T PERSONALLY CALLING YOU BACK ALL THE TIME.

NO, I AM GOING TO LAY IT OUT THERE.

BECAUSE THAT IS JUST THE TRUTH. SO MILLER HIGH SCHOOL, IT'S --

>> THAT IS NOT THE TRUTH, SHE IS LYING RIGHT THERE.

>> YOU KNOW, THIS IS NEW NEW CHAIR, SO YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT I WANT -- I -- LET'S JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION. YOU SPEAKEN TO CCSID.

>> MY STAFF. >>JUDGE CANALES: CCSID.

>> FOR ELECTION DAY, YES. EARLY VOTING, NO.

EARLY ELECTION DAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: I HEAR YOU.

ONCE AGAIN, I AM TRYING TO GET US BACK TO A CENTER POINT.

SO ON EARLY VOTING BECAUSE THAT'S ALL WE ARE DOING FOR LOCATIONS. DID CCSID SAY NO TO MILLER AND

TO RAY. >> YES.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION.

CCSID REJECTED MILLER AND RAY AS THE EARLY VOTING.

>> I THINK DRISCOL AS WELL. >>JUDGE CANALES: DRISCOL MIDDLE SCHOOL AS WELL. SO THAT IS THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION. THE SECOND IS, IS THERE HE BELIEVES THERE IS A GAP. DO YOU SEE ON YOUR MAP FROM THE EARLY VOTING LOCATIONS HOW THE GAP CAN BE BEST ANSWERED.

IF SOMEBODY SAYS HEY, YOU HAVE A GAP.

WHAT IS YOUR ANSWER TO THAT? >> THE ANSWER TO THAT IS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WHICH ARE THEY. >> YOU PUT THAT YOU IN.

BUT WHAT Y'ALL WILL USUALLY DO IS -- HEY, IF THERE ARE MORE LOCATIONS THAT NEED TORN ADDED AND YOU WANT TO ADD OR FIND TO ADD, YOU ALWAYS LEFT THAT OPEN AND I WOULD COME BACK AND

CONTINUE TO LOOK. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: THE FACT THAT PEOPLE CAN VOTE ANYWHERE, ISN'T THAT A HELP TO THE COMMUNITY? .

>> YES. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO A. HE SPIFRNG PLACE AND DRIVE AND

VOTE. >> YES.

THERE IS A BIG HOLE IN THE AREA WHERE THE OLD CARROLL HIGH SCHOOL IS A NEW LOCATION. AGAIN, WE DO LOOK TO TRY TO FILL THOSE HOLES, RIGHT, FOR EARLY VOTING.

AND WE WORK TOWARD THAT. AND I THINK WE GET BETTER ANY TIME. WE WANT TO ALWAYS IMPROVE.

SO WE HAVE FOUR NEW LOCATIONS THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD.

AND ONE OF THEM. ALWAYS WORK TOWARD AND WORK FOR OTHER LOCATIONS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ASKED TO TALK TO THESE -- TWO REALLY -- BUT WE DID ASK ABOUT RAY ARE, AND T, AND THEY

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ABOUT RAY ARE, ANNO. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S'S ASK YOU THIS SO WE CAN MOVE ON. WINS IS HE ALREADY APPROVED THESE, WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION OF HOURS.

YOU ALREADY STATED YOUR RECOMMENDATION.

IN THE NEXT WEEK SINCE WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK NEXT WEEK, IF IN THE NEXT WEEK, THROUGH M MUTUALALITY, COMING TO TERMS. IF SOMEONE FINDS A GREAT LOCATION AND RECEIVING THE GAP, WOULD YOU BE -- WOULD YOU ENTERTAIN THAT CONVERSATION.

>> ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: SO I THINK THAT -- I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS, BUT OR ADDRESSES YOUR CONCERNS, BUT AT LEAST WE KNOW THAT YOUR QUESTION WAS ENDS A, MR. SEINZ.

>> BUT STILL THE GAP. AND SO IF IT IS NOT RAY HIGH SCHOOL, WHY NOT ACROSS THE STREET AT THE DEL MAR CENTER THERE. YOU CAN DO IT THERE TO DEAL WITH

THAT ONE GAP IN THE RAY AREA. >> LET ME TAKE A LOOK AT

EVERYTHING. >>JUDGE CANALES: AND BRING IT

BACK NEXT WEEK. >> WHAT I WILL DO IF I FIND SOMETHING, YOU ALL CAN RATIFY IT LIKE WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.

AND I BROUGHT LOCATIONS BACK. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO -- THAT WAS REALLY THE POINT THAT YOU SAID, YEAH, I WILL ENTERTAIN IT. BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS AT LEAST WE NEED TO MAKE THE MOTION SO YOU CAN HAVE YOUR

HOURS CLEAR. >> JUST DO THAT AND I CAN ALWAYS

COME BACK. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WILL MAKE A MOTION. ARE WE ON 9 OR 10 JUDGE THE EARLIER ONE. NUMBER 10 -- WAIT A SECOND.

NUMBER 10. THE EARLY VOTING POLLING

LOCATIONS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MAKE A

MOTION TO PASS ITEM 10. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SECOND.

>>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION AND A SECOND WITH THE HOURS.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: AGAIN, I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK AND PRIOR WORK BY THE PARTY CHAIRS BECAUSE I KNOW HOW MUCH WORK THE PARTY CHAIRS PUT INTO THIS TO GET IT TO THIS POINT AND EVERYBODY WORKED TOGETHER. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY WORKING

TOGETHER. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE MOTION IS FOR THE HOURS. BUT I ALSO -- LET'S JUST DO THAT FIRST. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF KEEPING THE HOURS THE SAME SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING ALL OF

TEN. >>JUDGE CANALES: I HAVE A SECOND MOTION. WE APPROVED ALL THE VOTING LOCATIONS. A SECOND MOTION -- I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE COUNTY CLERK ASK DEL MA MAR'S ECO DIVO TO HOST EARLY VOTING.

THE MOTION IS IF WE APPROVE THAT LOCATION CONTINGENT ON THEM AGREEING. ASKING AND NEGOTIATING.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE NEED TO GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO GET WORK WORKERS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: GIVES HER A CHANCE TO DO THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: PARTIES MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS

FILLED. >> IF YOU CAN GIVE ME THE LIST,

I HEAR YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: CONTINGENT UPON ALL ITEMS -- IT PUTS BOTH PARTIES TO A GREAT SITUATION OF COMPROMISE. ADDRESSES THE GAP AND PUTS A BURDEN ON THEM AS WELL TO FILL THE NEED.

I THINK THAT IS A STRONG POSITION AND ALSO, I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I KNOW BECAUSE OF THE TIME TABLE HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO GET EVERYBODY TO 6:00 AND 7:00 AND I WILL VOTE GENTLEMEN ON THE 8 TO 5. IN THE SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE, YOU HAVE YOUR WORK CUT OUT FOR NEW A TIME FRAME.

I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MAREZ, WE CAN LOOK FOR DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS IN THE FUTURE. IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN AIM TO THE EXPANDED VOTING. WHAT WE SEE WHICH IS A GOOD THING. EVERYTHING WE KNOW SOMETIMES GET BLOWN OUT OF THE WATER. YOU DON'T KNOW YOU WILL HAVE A YEAR THAT IS TREMENDOUS VOTER PARTICIPATION OR A YEAR THAT HAS LOWER-THAN-AVERAGE PARTICIPATION.

2018, WE BLEW EVERY RECORD OUT OF THE WATER WITH SUCH INCREASED VOTER PARTICIPATION AND WHAT WE AIM FOR.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SOMETIMES THE WEATHER.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE NEVER KNOW. BOTTOM LINE THAT EARLY VOTING DID VERY WELL LAST CYCLE. THAT IS SOMETHING GOOD TO AIM FOR. AT ANY RATE, THE MOTOR VEHICLES ON THE HOURS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY -- I THINK WE DID IT ALREADY -- ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AND THEN THE MOTION THAT HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED ON THE DEL MAR ECO DIVO TO ADDRESS THE GAP SUBJECT TO OR OBVIOUSLY THEIR PARTICIPATION CONSENT AS WELL AS THE JUDGES BEING ASKED TO WORK. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY

SAYING AYE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. WE HAVE A LOT OF LOCATIONS.

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WE HAVE ALMOST AS MANY AS A COUNTY FOUR TIMES OUR SIZE.

IF WE NEED TO DO THIS DIFFERENTLY NEXT YEAR.

I KNOW THE COUNTY CLERK REACHES OUT TO ALL OF US IN ADVANCE WHICH THIS COULD HAVE ALL BEEN WORKED OUT IN ADVANCE.

IT IS FRUSTRATING COMING DOWN TO THE LAST MINUTE ON THIS WHEN THEY PUT HOURS AND HOURS. AND -- HOLD ON.

AND REACHED OUTS TO EVERY SING IS ONE OF US TO GET INPUT ON US BEFORE. AND I GET THE FRUSTRATION HERE.

BECAUSE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE. AGREED TO BY EVERYBODY UNTIL WE GOT IN HERE. IF WE NEED TO CHANGE IT UP FROM FIVE MINUTES TO A BUS STOP AND MORE SPREAD INTO EACH PRECINCT WHERE EACH PRECINCT HAD SIX OR THREE OR TV, WHATEVER.

I AM OPEN FOR ALL THAT. I'M JUST -- I HOPE I CAN GET THIS DONE AND AVOID THESE KINDS OF THINGS AT THE LAST MINUTE.

A TON OF THIS WORK THAT WENT INTO IT.

AND ALL THE -- THE PARTY CHAIRS WERE INVOLVED.

THEY WERE -- SO, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY.

I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS MADE AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET IT

[11. Discuss and consider approval of Election Day Vote Centers for the November 8, 2022, General Election.]

GOING. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. IF WE WILL MOVE ON, MOVE ON TO THE ELECTION DAY VOTE CENTERINGS.

ONE CHANGE. TO INCLUDE THE DEL MAR ECO DEVO AS THE PERMANENT -- I SAY PERMANENT -- BUT A VOTING DAY

LOCATION FOR NOVEMBER 8. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHY ARE WE DOING THAT. A HOLE IN ELECTION DAY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: TO SWITCH LYNN DALE.

>> COMMISSIONER MAREZ ASKED IF I WOULD LOOK INTO THAT AND I DID.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: A BAD SITE TO BEGIN WITH BECAUSE OF ONGOING CONSTRUCTION. I LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THE STREET IS MCCALL THE ONLY WAY TO GET TO DINDALE.

MISS SANDS HEARD MY CONCERN AND MOVED ON IT AND RESEARCHED AND

THANKFULLY SHE FOUND IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IT IS NOT IN THIS -- IT IS NOT IN MY BOOK.

WE ARE DOING AN AMENDMENT TODAY? I AM CONFUSED.

>>JUDGE CANALES: JUST AN AMENDMENT --

>> YOU HAVE APPROVED THE LOCATION ALREADY.

I DON'T KNOW WHY ALL THE LOCATIONS ARE BACK ON.

BUT ALL I NEED FOR Y'ALL TO DO. THEY HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

IF WOULD JUST SWITCH OUT LYNNDALE.

>> TO CHANGE LYNNDALE SENIOR CENTER TO DEL MAR.

>> FOR ELECTION DAY AS A VOTE CENTER.

>>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER MAREZ.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I WILL MAKE A MOTION.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

THAT TAKES CARE OF 10 AND 11. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: KARA, CAN YOU LOOK TOO. A COOL STAT THAT COMMISSIONER MAREZ CAME UP WITH. HE HASES THAT STAT.

WE HAVE DONE AN AMAZING JOB AS A COUNTY MAKING IT SUPER EASY TO VOTE IN THE. NUMBERS DON'T ALWAYS TELL THE STORY AND A SOLID START. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW WE COMPARE AS COMMISSIONER MAREZ DID IT TO BEXAR AND TRAVIS FOR

ELECTION DAY. >> THAT'S WHY I GAVE NUMBERS TO GIVE PRAISE, NOT A DIG TO EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC THAT MISS SANDS AND HER STAFF HAS DONE A JOB TO MAKE THIS AS GOOD AS POSSIBLE. NO SYSTEM IS PERFECT.

ALL I WAS SAYING IS TO I'M PROVE IT WHAT I FEEL IS CUTTING EDGE AND TAKING THE LEAD IN THE STATE FOR SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE THE OTHER COUNTIES CAUGHT UP TO US. I HAVE THESE LINKS.

I CAN FORWARD THEM TO AIDEE AND FORWARD TO THE CLERK FOR OUR REVIEW BECAUSE TWO YEARS WILL BE HERE QUICKLY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. THANK YOU.

WE WILL GO BACK INTO THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS.

[2. Discuss and consider adoption of an Order approving the 2022 tax roll; setting the 2022 tax rates for Nueces County; and levying said tax rate against all taxable property in Nueces County for 2022.]

AND I AM GOING TO CALL ON 3-A-2 PLEASE AT THE SAME TIME.

THERE IS AN ORDER TO ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT WE WILL BE VOTING ON, INCLUDING THE ADOPTION OF ORDERS REGARDING THE APPROVING OF THE 2022 TAX ROLL, SETTING THE TAX RATE AND LEVYING THE TAX RATE AGAINST ALL TAXABLE PROPERTIES. I THINK LISA HAS PASSED OUT SOME DOCUMENTS, BUT AT THIS TIME TURN TO DALE AND SAY AT THIS TIME, THE ADOPTION OF THE -- FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED TO CONSIDER AN ADOPTION WITH AN ORDER TO APPROVE THE 20 20 TAX ROLL.

CONSTITUTE GIVE ME THE MAGIC LANGUAGE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHICH ONE ARE YOU ON, JUDGE, I

APOLOGIZE. >>JUDGE CANALES: #-A-2.

THE FIRST PART YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT, RIGHT.

CREATE AN ORDER TO APPROVE THE 2020 TAX ROLL.

DALE, IS THAT ACCURATE? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: AT THIS TIME, YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT.

ANY HIGHLIGHTS FOR US, DALE. ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS BEFORE WE APPROVE -- JUST THE TAX ROLL.

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WHAT OUR TAB. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NUMBER

4. >>JUDGE CANALES: NUMBER 2.

>> APPRAISAL DISTRICTS TO PROVIDE TAX BILL TO BE ABLE TO APPROVE TO CALCULATE THE RATES. YOU MUST FIRST APPROVE THE TAX

RATE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: 3-A-2 -- BUT IT IS ARTICULATING THAT WE ARE SET SOMETHING THE RATE AT

29. >>JUDGE CANALES: FIRST, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE TAX ROLL.

>> WE DO THE ROLL AND THEN THE RATE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT IS THE TAX CONTROLLED.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T HAVE THAT IN MY PACKET.

ALL I HAVE IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE TAX ROLL, SETTING THE TAX RATE FOR NUECES COUNTY AGAINST ALL TAXABLE PROPERTIES.

WHAT WAS PROVIDED THAT I OBJECT YAO USUALLY DIDN'T GET? JUDGE JUDGE AN ORDER. SHOULD BE IN THE PACKET.

>> I HAVE AN ORDER. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

ANYTHING BACKING UP THIS ORDER THAT SHOWS US WHAT THE TAX ROLL.

>> THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE, THE TAX ROLL.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHICH SHEET ARE YOU TALK ABOUT.

>> THE VERY FIRST ONE 2605 PROPERTY TAX CODE IN NUECES COUNTY. THE NEXT THREE PAGES.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHAT LISA HANDED OUT EARLIER.

IT WAS JUST GIVEN SO. >>JUDGE CANALES: TAX APPRAISED

VALUE HAS BEEN GIVEN TO US. >> DURING THE BUDGET HEARINGS.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHAT WAS GIVEN TO US TODAY WAS MANDED OUT TODAY. I GET IT.

THINGS HAVE CHANGED THROUGHOUT. SO I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE YOU ARE LOOKING AT. NUMBER TWO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: CAN YOU GUYS SHOW HIM, PLEASE.

>> ONE ORDER THAT DOES BOTH IN HERE.

SAYS THE PROPOSED ORDER ACCEPTING AND IMPROVING THE TAX ROLL. THE FIRST ONE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HE IS SAYING WHAT THE BACK-UPS.

I GOT THE ORDER AND ORDER SAY PROPOSING THE TAX ROLLS, LEVYING THE TAX RATE. WHERE IS THE BACK-UP FOR THAT.

WHERE IS THE TAX ROLL? DID SOMEBODY GIVE ME THE TAX ROLL? APPROVING THE 2022 TAX ROLL.

WHERE IS THE TAX ROLL. DON'T WE HAVE TO HAVE A TAX ROLL

TO APPROVE? >> YES, THE -- THIS YEAR, I SHOWED YOU THE NET VALUES THAT WE HAVE FROM TAX ROLL.

THE TAX ROLL 55,000 PAGES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT -- THE SUMMARY OF THE TAX ROLL.

>> ITEM 6 SHOWS TOTAL TAXABLE VALUE AS PROVIDED BY $36,336,

181,406 FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT IS

THE TAX ROLL? >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT DOESN'T EVER CHANGE. ONCE WE -- ONE WE SOEF IT.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I JUST WANT A SUMMARY SHEET FOR THE TAX ROLL FOR THAT BIG NUMBER THAT YOU READ OUT LOUD.

>>JUDGE CANALES: GET THAT TO EVERYBODY.

>> THAT IS THE LAW FOR WHICH WE CALCULATE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: RIGHT. THESE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT WE

ARE VOTING ON. >> YES.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT'S ALL I AM ASKING.

DO YOU NEED THIS BACK BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO KEEP.

>> I CAN GO MAKE A COPY REAL QUICK.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WOULD THINK IF THAT IS OKAY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: GO AHEAD AND REPEAT.

WE WILL HAVE A COPY MADE. REPEAT THE NUMBER SLOWLY, DALE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF IT IS IN THE BUDGET BOOK, REFERENCE

THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT IS IN THE

BUDGET BOOK. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SOMEONE TELL ME IN THE BUDGET BOOK WHAT PAGE SO LISA DOESN'T HAVE TO

MAKE TOWNSHIPS. >> LOOK AT THE WORK.

BOOK AND REAL QUICK, I WILL TELL YOU WHAT IT IS AT.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT BOOK? NO, THE BUDGET WORKBOOK. I BROUGHT THE PROPOSED BUDGET TO WORK THROUGH. BUT HOLD ON.

GO AHEAD. >> VALUATION ON TAB P OF YOUR WORK BOOK. TAX RATE CALCULATION AND VALUES OF HOW WE CALCULATE THE TAX ROLL.

YOU SHOULD HAVE THE ACTUAL CALCULATION INCLUDED IN -- IN THAT VISION TO MAKE SURE IT IS THERE.

THAT THERE. THAT WASN'T THE RIGHT ONE.

LET ME MAKE SURE THE RIGHT ONE. TAB O.

TAB O IS A DISTRICT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MY BUDGET WORKBOOK. GO AHEAD IS EVERYBODY IS READY

TO GO. >> EVALUATION FOR GENERAL FUND, DEBT SERVICE AND ROAD FUND. SHOULD INCLUDE EVERYTHING WE PROVIDE SO IT IS TAB O FROM YOUR WORKBOOK.

>> PROVIDING THE TAX ROLL IS SIMPLY PROVIDING WHETHER YOU

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CALCU CALCULATED.

>> THE VALUE FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT FOR THE NEW NO TAX.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THIS CERTIFY THIS ROLE AND GIVEN TO ALL ENTITIES PER ENTITIES. THIS COMES FROM THE NUECES

COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THEY DO A CALCULATION. I WAS TRYING TOO GET A RECAP OF

THE CALCULATION. >> THEY ARE RECERTIFIED BUT VALUES UNDER PROTEST. SNOW FALL ACTUALLY GET THE PEOPLIZED CERTIFIED ROLL, BUT THE ROLL OF THE NEW NEW REVENUE TAX. THE RATES WE ARE USING SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL OF THE TAX ROLL AT THIS TIME.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IS THIS A MOTION AT THIS TIME TO CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF THE ORDER A I PROVING THE 2022 TAX ROLL AS PROVIDED TO US BY THE NUECES COUNTY APPRAISAL BUSINESS

STRICT. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: SO MOVED.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THERE IS A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT, I WILL IS THERE AN

ISSUE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM

JUST LOOKING THROUGH THIS. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT OUR WORK PRODUCT. IT IS THEIRS.

THEY ARE CERTIFIED IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: OUR WORK PRODUCTS. THEY WENT THROUGH THE WORKSHEET.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE GET IT FROM THEM.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THEIR NUMBERS, OUR WORKSHEET.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE DON'T APPR

APPRAISE. >>JUDGE CANALES: ARE WE GOOD.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THE 2022 TAX RATE FOR NUECES COUNTY. AND THEN AFTER WE SET THIS TAX RATE, I WILL HAVE A MOTION -- I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO LEVY THAT TAX RATE TO ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY IN NUECES COUNTY FOR 20 2022.

>> YES YOUR HONOR. GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET AND THE BUDGET CHALLENGES EARLIER AT THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THE MOMENT WHERE WE CONTINUED TO PAY THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT AS WELL AS THE 6% COST OF LIVING INCREASES AS WELL AS THE 10% FOR THE CADETS AND OTHER MIDTERMS AND SMALL LIMITED POSITIONS AND CLASSIFICATIONS. AFTER REVIEWING THAT AND LOOKING THROUGH THE NUMBERS WHAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE, WHAT WE PROJECT RECOMMENDING THAT YOU PROPOSE ADOPT THE RATE AS.29169.

.24069.042069. AND.00341.

. .2915679 JUDGE SGLUJZ THIS ADOPTION, DOES IT MEET ALL OF THE LEGISLATIVE REQUIREMENTS IMPOSED ON LAW TO NOT EXCEED THE STATUTORY REVENUE CAPSES?

>> YES, IT DOES, YOUR HONOR. >>JUDGE CANALES: I BELIEVE AT THIS RIGHT, THIS REPRESENTS A TAX RATE DECREASE OF NOT QUITE

BUT ALMOST TWO SENDS? >> FROM OUR CURRENT RATE TO THIS RATE, ALMOST TWO CENTS. 6.05 REDUCTION IN RATE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: 6% REDUCTION IN RATE.

OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS REGARD THIS RA

RATE? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: DALE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: DALE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SO WE ARE GOING -- NOT THE ORDER APPROVED RATE YET.

>> IT IS. >>THE VOTER APPROVED RATE.

>> WITH THE UNUSED. >> UNUSED INCREMENT.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: BRING IT DOWN TO.

>> >>.29.

>>JUDGE CANALES:.29. >> IF WE VOTE FOR THIS, DO WE ALSO NEED TO INCLUDE -- WHAT IS -- WHAT ELSE DO WE WANT AS PART

OF THIS, TO INCLUDE ON THIS. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU MEAN THE BUDGET, COMMISSIONER? THAT WILL BE NEXT.

>> RIGHT NOW YOU ADOPT THE RATE BEFORE YOU DO THE BUDGET.

WE HAVE TO ADOPT A RATE AND THEN GO TO THE BUDGET.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ITEM NUMBER 5. WE ARE NOT THERE QUITE YET.

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>> WITH EVERYTHING INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET, I BELIEVE THAT THE -- THE TAX RATE NECESSARY TO FUND THESE OPERATIONS WILL BE GIVING US A LITTLE BIT OF EXCESS IN RESERVES .291659.

.310455. .30445 IS THE CURRENT RATE.

PROPOSING.291659. REDUCTION OF.018786.

ALMOST TWO CENT REDUCTION. GONE GONZALEZ AT LEAST WE GOT A REDUCTION OF TWO CENTS ON THE TAX ROLL.

>> CORRECT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SOUNDS GOOD TO ME RIGHT NOW. UNLESS I GO BACK AND CHANGE MY MIND. OK

OKAY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IS THIS WHERE WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THE POSIT

POSITIONS. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS IT

NUMBER FIVE. >>THE TAX RULES SAY YOU HAVE TO SET THE TAX RATE FIRST AND THEN ADOPT THE BUDGET.

RULES OF THE STATE OF TEXAS. IT IS INTERESTING AND DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, BUT THOSE ARE THE RULES THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: 6% ACROSS THE BOARD.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THAT WILL GO NEXT.

>> THIS IS THE 6% COST OF LIVING FOR THOSE THAT QUALIFY AND 10%

FOR THE CADETS. >>JUDGE CANALES: ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DALE? THE ISSUE IS WE CAN NOT CHANGE OR ACHIEVE THE COLA WITHOUT THE -- WITHOUT THE RATE THAT YOU IT PROPOSED. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> WE CAN NOT FUND IT WITHOUT THIS RATE, CORRECT WITH THE COLA AND NO NEW REVENUE TAX, YOU WILL LOSE $5 MILLION.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE WILL HAVE 3.5 TO WORK WITH.

>> IF YOU DO THE COLA AND THIS RATE, YOU WILL PROBABLY BE -- RESERVES OF $500,000 PLUS. BASED ON ROUGH ESTIMATES OF THE VALUES. BASED ON HISTORIES.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I MOVE -- GO WE GO WITH THE UNUSED INCREMENTS FOR THE VOTER APPROVED RATE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. SO A MOTION TO APPROVE THE --

HOLD ON, LISA. >> IT HAS TO BE READ.

>>JUDGE CANALES: HAS TO BE READ IN THE MOTION.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: 2022-2023 RATE ADJUSTED FOR UNUSED INCREMENTS AT 0.291659. RIGHT.

I THINK. >>JUDGE CANALES: LISA IS COMING.

>> THE MOTION HAS TO BE READ EXACTLY LIKE IT SAYS RIGHT HERE.

I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BE INCREASED BY THE ADOPTION OF A TAX RATE OF -- IT SAYS INCREASE BUT REALLY DECREASING SOME OF

IT, RIGHT. >> ACCORDING TO THE TAX LAW, AN INCREASE ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX.

INCREASE EVEN THOUGH WE ARE REDUCING OUR TAX RATE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: A TAX INCREASE.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: A RATE OF 0.291659 WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A 7.26% INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE.

IS THAT RIGHT? >> YES.

>>. YOU HAVE IT TAKE A RECORD VOTE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I NEED TO GET A SECOND.

WITH THAT MOTION AND HOPE HOPEFULLY KARA, WE GOT IT WITH

THE NUMBERS. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: SOMEONE

MAKE A SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I WILL

DO A SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ HAS A SECOND AND A RECORD VOTE AND COMMISSIONER

GONZALEZ. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YES.

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>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: AYE. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: WELL, WE NEED TO HELP THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES SO I AM AN AYE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER CHESNEY.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NO. >>JUDGE CANALES: MYSELF, YES.

OKAY. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY NOW TO HAVE A MOTION TO LEVY THE SAID TAX RATE AGAINST ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY IN NUECES COUNTY FOR 022.

AND IS THERE A MOTION TO LEVY -- ACTUALLY LET ME GET YOU THAT

MAGIC LANGUAGE AS WELL. >> IT'S ONE THING FOR ALL OF IT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, SO YOU DON'T NEED ANY MORE ACTIONS,

LISA? >> YOU JUST READ -- YOU REARED THE ORDER WITH THE TAX RATE AND SAID THE MAGIC LANGUAGE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE ARE GOOD TO GO WITH REGARD TO THE LEVY.

>> YOU READ THIS ONE, THE OR >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM JUST ABOUT TO. SO GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT.

WHEREAS COMMISSIONERS COURT AUTHORIZE THE TAX ASSESSOR FOR NO NEW REVENUE RATE FOR 2022, COUNTY FARM TO MARKET AND LATERAL ROAD AND FLOOD AND WHEREAS THE NOTICE OF PROPERTY OF TAX -- PROPOSED PROPERTY TAX RATE IS NEWLY IN COMPLIANCE.

AND PROPERTY TAX DIVISION AND IN THE CORPUS CHRISTI TIMES.

THE COUNTY, THE FARM-TO-MARKET AND LATERAL ROAD AND FLOOD AUGUST 4, 2022. THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FINDS AND DETERMINES THAT THE PROPER PROCEDURE HAS BEEN FOLLOWED TO LAWFULLY CONSIDER THE PROPOSED TAX RATES OF PROPER NOTICE OF THE MEETINGS SEPTEMBER 7, THAT ISSED TO OF # 2022.

VERNON'S TEXAS CODES AS WELL. AND WHEREAS, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FINDS AND APPROVES SEPARATELY THE TAX RATE CONSISTING OF THE TO WILLING TWO COMPONENTS.

HERE ARE THE TWO COMPONENTS. DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE OF.042069 THAT APPLIED TO THE TOTAL TAXABLE VALUE WILL IMPOSE THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF TAXES NEEDED TO PAY DEBT SERVICE FOR THIS NEXT YEAR. AND M&O.

.2495037 OF THE TAXABLE VALUE FOR THE NUMBER OF TAXES NEEDED TO FUND MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION EXPENDITURES FOR THE COUNTY THIS NEXT YEAR. THIS TAX RATE WILL RAISE MORE TAXES FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION THAN LAST YEAR'S TAX RATE. THE TAX RATE WILL BE EFFECTIVELY RAISED BY 6.1% AND RAISE TAXES FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS ON A $100,000 HOME BY APPROXIMATELY $16.10.

IT IS A NEGATIVE -- THANK YOU, TERESA, NEGATIVE $16.10.

NOW, THEREFORE BE IT ORDERED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT 2022 TAX ROLL SUBMITTED BY THE NUECES COUNTY TAX APPRAISAL DISTRICT TO THE NUECES COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR IS APPROVED.

WE ARE $100 VALUE ARE SET AND LEVIED AGAINST ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY FOR 2022. LET ME READ FOR THE RECORD THOSE APPLES ONCE AGAIN. THE M ANDO.246159.

FOR $100. FARM TO MARKET.003431 FOR $100.

TOTAL M &O. THAT MEANS ADDING THE ROAD LATERAL AND THE PREVIOUS GENERAL IS A TOTAL THAT BRINGS IT TO.249509 PER $1,000. AND NUECES COUNTY DEBT SERVICE.02469. THE TOE STALL NUECES COUNTY TAX RATE IS.291659. ALSO THERE ARE SOME HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS TO READ. THEREFORE BE IT TO ORDER INCLUDED SHREW A 20% FOR HOMESTEAD HE EXEMPTION BUT NOT LESS THAN $5,000 AND $62,500 FOR OVER AGE 65 AND DISABLED EXEMPTION AND THE EXEMPTION ON THE NUMBER OF A HOMESTEAD OF A DISABLED INDIVIDUAL OR THOSE 65 YEARS OF AGE PURSUANT TO ARTICLE 81LE 1B OF THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION.

BE IT FURTHER ORDER THAT NO IT IS COUNTS FOR EARLY PAYMENTS OF TAXES, SPLIT PAYMENT OF TAXES OF THE TAX CODE WILL NOT BE ALLOWED. PROPOSED ORDER IMPROVING THE 2022 TAX ROLL AND WAIT AND LEVYS SUCH TAX RATE HAVING BEEN READ.

PUBLIC COMMENT HAVING BEEN ALLOWED AND COMMENTS HAVING BEEN CONSIDERED. ON MOTION TO ADOPT THE TAX RATE OF.291659 AND ADOPT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT ORDER BY

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COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. SECONDED I COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, .295659 ON THE 7TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2022, VOTING FOR WOULD BE THE COMMISSIONERS HERNANDEZ, MAREZ, GONZALEZ, COUNTY JUDGE CANALES. AND VOTING AGAINST COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. THIS IS THE ORDER AS IS PRESENTED TO ME. AND I THINK IT ACCURATELY REFLECTS THE RECORD. AND I ASK JUST FOR CONFIRMATION

FROM THE AUDITOR. >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT, YOUR

HONOR. >>JUDGE CANALES: HAVING DONE THAT. WE NEED TO DO THE SAME EXACT THING FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. AND I WILL JUST MOVE US TO THAT

[6. Discuss and consider adoption of an Order approving the 2022 tax roll; setting the 2022 tax rate for the Nueces County Hospital District; and levying said tax rate against all taxable property in Nueces County for 2022.]

ITEM WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER? 6.

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDER APPROVING THE 2022 TAX ROLL OF THE TAX RATE AGAINST ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY.

AND, AGAIN, IT IS ALL ONE ITEM. SO LISA, IN THAT VAIN, WE VOTED TO ACCEPT THE TAX ROLL FIRST. WITH A THAT IN ERROR THAT I CAN

CORRECT FOR CLARIFICATION. >> IT IS JUST ONE ITEM.

>>JUDGE CANALES: SO, BRENT, I AM GOING TO TAKE BACK BECAUSE YOU VOTED NO. WOULD YOU LIKE TO --

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I VOTED. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU VOTED --

ALL ONE ITEM. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT'S WHY I WAS KIND OF ASKING ALL IN ONE THING.

>> YES ALL IN ONE ITEM. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM JUST GOING TO ASK THERE TO BE JUST A GENERALIZED MOTION TO WITHDRAW THE ITEM OF THE CERTIFICATION OF THE TAX ROLL AND JUST ONE VOTE HAVING BEEN TAKEN ALREADY FOR ALL ITEMS.

SFWLACHS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THOUGHT WE HAD TO DO IT TWO DIFFERENT MOTIONS IS WHAT YOU

ALL SAID. >> THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN IN THE

AGENDA, LOOKS LIKE TWO ITEMS. >>JUDGE CANALES: DOES THAT LOOK.

>> THE AGENDA REQUIRES TWO ACTION ITEMS. THE WAY THE AGENDA IS WRITTEN. APPEARS TO BE TWO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: JENNY, IF THERE IS NO HARM.

>> I WOULD FOLLOW THE STATUTE URT FIRST.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THE STATUTE REQUIRES ONLY THE ONE ORDER.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: BUT MY VOTE ON THE TAX ROLL CAN STILL STAND. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO DO

IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: ONLY ONE VOTE.

JUST ONE VOTE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I VOTED

YES FOR THE CERTIFICATION. >>JUDGE CANALES: BUT JUST ONE ITEM. I AM GOING TO HAVE A MOTION TO RESCIND THE VOTE ON THE CERTIFICATION.

THE TAX ROLL AS A MOOT POINT BECAUSE THE SECOND HAS ALREADY ENCOMPASSED ALL ITEMS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.

IS THERE A SECOND? >>COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: SECOND.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

TO CLEAN UP THE RECORD THERE. NOW WE WILL DO IT NOW THAT WE HAVE PRACTICED. WE CAN DO THE SECOND ONE, WHICH

[7. Discuss and consider adoption of the 2022-2023 Nueces County Hospital District Budget.]

IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE ADOPTION, AGAIN, AS I SAID FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. AND I WOULD ASK DALE AGAIN NOT ONLY FOR THE AUDITOR'S RECOMMENDATION BUT TO REPEAT THE VALUES THAT WILL HIPP THAT RELATED.

>> WORKING THROUGH THE ITEMS AND MR. HIPP REQUESTING 098846 BE ADOPTED FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, FISCAL YEAR 2022-2023 A REDUCTION OF 0.2156 OR 11.35% REDUCTION.

>>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION FOR SAID SUCH TAX RATE?

>> SO MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: I HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND?

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: DOES THAT HAVE TO BE READ A CERTAIN WAY TOO. LET LISA GO OVER HERE.

I SAW HER JUMPING UP. >> WHO MADE THE MOTION?

>>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER MAREZ.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: NO WONDER YOU ALL DID THAT.

I FELL FOR IT. WHY ISN'T ANYONE SAYING ANYTHING. I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX BE INCREASED BY THE ADOPTED -- ADOPTION OF A TAX RATE OF 0.098846, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A 1.0 IT SHALL A 1.50% INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE. THAT IS MY MOTION.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT AND A SECOND PLEASE?

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: SECOND.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THERE IS A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION HERE? AGAIN FOR CLARIFICATION BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE WHAT HAS BEEN HOURS, JOHNNY, SINCE YOU LAST TAKEN THE PODIUM. THE BOARD RECOMMENDED RATE AND SIGNALS QUITE A DOWNWARD TREND IN OUR TAX RATE FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. AS WELL AS STILL ALLOWS YOU TO

KEEP YOUR BUDGET HEALTHY. >> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, THAT'S CORRECT. I JUST WOULD POINT OUT THAT THE

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TAX RATE HAS DECREASED BUT THE APPRAISED VALUE HAVE GONE UP.

ESSENTIALLY THIS TAX RATE OF THE.9846 IS A ONE AND A HALF% INCREASE ABOVE THE NO NEW TAX RATE.

NOT AN INCREASE ABOVE THE CURRENT RATE, BUT ABOVE THE NO NEW RATE THAT IS IN OLD PARLANCE WAS THE EFFECTIVE RATE THAT WE HAD. SO THIS REVENUE WILL BRING -- THIS TAX RATE WILL BRING ACCORDING TO LISA'S NUMBERS, ABOUT $343,000 OF REVENUE. BUT YOU RUN THAT THROUGH THE TAX -- THROUGH THE ACCOUNTING EFFECTS OF OUR BOOKS, WE HAVE A RESERVE ON OUR BOOKS FOR SOME REFINERY TAX RECOVERIES STILL CARRYING. THE ACTUAL DOLLAR EFFECT TO THE DISTRICT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THE REFINERY CONTINGENCY.

NEW REVENUE COMPARED TO LAST YEAR.

THE BOARD ADOPTED A BUDGET THAT TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION T THE .08946 AND HAVE THE DISTRICT WITH STATUTORY OBLIGATION FOR INDIGENT HEALTH CARE AND A MECHANISM IN PLACE AND ALLOWS THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO CONTINUE FUNDING AND PUT MONEY INTO A MENTAL HEALTH IN THE COUNTY AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER.

AND TO PROVIDE COUNTY FOR THE -- FUNDING FOR THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF THE EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT, PUBLIC HEALTH, A JAIL HEALTH CARE. I CAN GO ALL THE WAY DOWN THE LIST OF ALL THE THINGS IT COVERS.

SO, YES, JUDGE, YOU ARE CORRECT. >>JUDGE CANALES: DALE, AS OUR AUDITOR, IS THIS YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO SET THIS TAX

RATE? >> YES MY RECOMMENDATION AS A BUDGET OFFICER AND WORK WITH THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

THIS WAS THE RATE WE WERE RECOMMENDING.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, ALL RIGHT.

WITH A MOTION AND SECOND, WE ALSO DO NEED A RECORD VOTE.

AND SO I WILL START WITH COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ.

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: AYE. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: AYE.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: AYE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: MYSELF, YES. OKAY.

SO WE NOW HAVE SET TAX RATES FOR BOTH ENTITIES.

AND WE ALSO HAVE ADOPTED THE ORDERED AND LEVIED THE SAID TAX RATE AGAINST ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO ALSO READ THE ORDER IN ITS ENTER TEE? OK OKAY.

>> JUST THE SAME WORDING. IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE SAME AREA WITH THE TAX RATE TO THE RATES WERE READ IN THE RECORD.

THE ORDER IS PROBABLY THE SAME. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WAS GOING TO SAY I DON'T HAVE A SPECIAL ONE FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT, BUT WHEN I -- LISA IS GOING TO RUN AND GET THAT FOR ME.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THERE ARE A FEW OF YOU FOR BUDGET.

WE WILL PROCEED THERE. I WILL ASK THE COURT FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS ONE ITEM IN EXECUTIVE SESSION DUE TO THE FACT THAT ALL PRINCIPALS ARE HERE.

AND BUDGET IS GOING TO TAKE A BIT.

SO IT'S AN UPDATE PRESENTATION ONLY IF THAT HELPS YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IT WON'T BE HOURS AND HOURS BUT JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COURT TO HEAR FROM CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS RELATED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. LET ME GO BACK FOR THE CLERK AND FOR OUR PUBLIC AND READ AN ORDER ACCEPTING THE 2022 TAX ROLLS SETTING THE TAX RATE FOR THE NUECES COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT LEVY AGAINST ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY.

WHEREAS THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AUTHORIZED THE TAX ASSESSOR IS TO COMPETE THE NO NEW REVENUE FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND NOTICE OF PROPERTY TAX FULLY COMBINES THE PROPERTY TAX CODE AND THE RULES OF THE STATE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, PROPERTY

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TAX DIVISION IN THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT ON AUGUST 24, 2022.

WHEREAS THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FINDS AND DETERMINES THAT THE PROPER PROCEDURE LAWFULLY TO CONSIDER THE PROPOSED TAX RATES FOR 2022 INCLUDING PROPER NOTICE OF THE MEETING SEPTEMBER 7, 2022 PROVIDED BY CHAPTER 551 OF WHEREAS THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FINDS AND APROOFS PROVES THE TAX RATE FOR THE NUECES COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT FOR THE CURRENT YEAR OF THE FOLLOWING.

MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION TAX RATE.098846.

THAT HAVE APPLIED TO THE TOTAL TAXABLE VALUE IMPOSE THE AMOUNT OF TAXES TO FUND MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION EXPENSETURES OF THE NUECES COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT FOR THE IN EX-YEAR.

THE TAX RATE WILL RAISE MORE TAXES FOR OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE THAN LAST YEAR'S TAX RATE.

THE TAX RATES WILL BE EFFECTIVELY RAISED BY.53% AND RAISE TAXES FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION BY NEGATIVE $12.65.

NOW, THEREFORE, THEREFORE IT BE ORDERED THAT THE 2022 TAX ROLL SUBMITTED BY THE NUECES HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

THE FOLLOWING TAX RATE FOR $100 IS SET AND LEVIED AGAINST ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY FOR 2022. THE NUECES COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT RATE WILL BE.098846 WE ARE $100 VALUATION.

AND FURTHER ORDER THAT THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS 22% FOR HOMESTEAD AND NOT LESS THAN $5,000, $62,500 FOR OVER AGE 65.

PLUS EXEMPTIONS MANDATED BY STATE LAW.

AND WHEREVER, BE IT FURTHER ORDERED THAT NO DISCOUNTS ARE ALLOWED FOR EARLY PAYMENT OF TAXES.

SPLIT PAYMENT IS DESCRIBED IN SUBSECTIONS 31.03 OF THE PROPERTY TAX CODE WILL ALSO NOT BE ALLOWED.

THE PROPOSE ORDER OF ACCEPTING THE 2022 TAX ROLL FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT OF NUECES COUNTY AND LEVYS SAID TAX RATE IN NUECES COUNTY HAVING BEEN READ.

PUBLIC COMMENT HAVING OPINION ALLOWED.

AND COMMENTS HAVING BEEN CONSIDERED.

MOTION SECONDED BY THE COURT VOTED TO ADOPT THE TAX RATE.

AND TO ADOPT THE COURT OUTER 7TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2022.

VOTING FOR THE TAX RATE AND ORDER WHERE COMMISSIONER ROBERT HERNANDEZ, COMMISSIONER JOHN MAREZ, COMMISSIONER JOE GONZALEZ, COUNTY JUDGE BARBARA CANALES.

VOTING AGAINST THE TAX RATE AND ORDER COMMISSIONER CHESNEY.

I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES THE ORDER IN ITS ENTIRETY FOR BOTH ENTITIES AND ASK FOR CONFIRMATION FOR THE AUDITOR AND COUNTY ATTORNEY THAT NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED AT THIS TIME.

>> NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED, YOUR HONOR.

>>JUDGE CANALES: SO AS WE TRANSITION INTO ITEM NUMBER 5 WHICH IS OUR BUDGET WHICH WILL BE CONSIDER ADOPTION OF

2022-2023. >> YOU HAVE TO DO NUMBER 3

FIRST. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: RESCIND.

>> 3 AND 4 FIRST. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET ME GO BACK AND RESCIND THE ORDERS. THE PRIOR BUDGET YEAR RESOLUTIONS AND I ALSO HAVE MAGIC LANGUAGE TO READ HERE.

>> SPILL NEED A MOTION TO RESCIND ALL BUDGET RESOLUTIONS AND ORDER TO GO INTO A NEW BUDGET ADOPTION.

THERE IS A MOTION, AND A SECOND. SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

I WILL READ NOW THE RESOLUTION. OKAY, FOR THE RECORD.

WHEREAS RESOLUTIONS IN ORDER RELATED TO BUDGETARY AND FISCAL MANAGEMENT AND COUNTY FUNDS ARE INCLUDED IN THE ANNUAL BUDGET AND RESOLUTION AND ORDERS INCLUDED IN THE ANNUAL BUDGET MAY REQUIRE RESTRICTIONSES EACH BUDGET YEAR.

BE ARE RESOLVED THAT ALL RESOLUTIONS AN ORDERS IN THE 2021, 2022 BUDGET AMERICA RESCINDED OCTOBER 212022.

DULY ADOPTED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF NUECES COUNTY. WE JUST TOOK THAT VOTE.

SO THIS WILL BE SIGNED. THIS ORDER IS RESCINDED.

[4. Discuss and consider adoption of Orders and Resolutions related to the proposed 2022-2023 Nueces County Budget.]

NOW WE WILL CONSIDER ON ITEM NUMBER 4 THE ADOPTION OF ORDERS AND RESOLUTION RELATING TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

THIS CAN BE FOUND IN YOUR BOOK IN ITEM NUMBER 4.

THIS IS AN ORDER THAT APPLIES TO AND AFFECTS ALL EMPLOYEES WHO ARE AUTHORIZED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT UNDER SUBSECTIONS 152.011 OF THE VERNON TEXAS CODES.

AND ANY OTHER AUTHORITY OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO SET THE COMPENSATION AND CONTROLLED ANNUAL BUDGET.

ALL EMPLOYEE WHO ARE AUTHORIZED IN THE 2022-'23 BUDGET, EXCEPT THREE. IT DOES NOT -- SORRY -- LET ME

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REREAD. ALL EMPLOYEES ARE AUTHORIZED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2022-2023 COUNTY BUDGET, AND IT DOES NOT APPLY TO EMPLOYEES OVER WHICH THE COMMISSIONERS COURT HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO SET COMPENSATION AND THOSE ARE SET BY STATE LAW.

SO, THEREFORE, I WILL CONTINUE, BUT WE NEED AM -- A RESOLUTION ORDER AND RESOLUTION RELATED TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

IS THERE SUCH A RESOLUTION? IS THERE SUCH A RESOLUTION FOR

SUCH ORDER AND RESOLUTION? >> SO MOVED.

>>JUDGE CANALES: A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. FOR COMPLETION, THEREFORE, WE WILL SIGN LATER TODAY THIS RESOLUTION THAT ORDERS EACH EMPLOYEE POSITION THAT IS VACANT AS OF OCTOBER # 1, 2022 THAT BECOMES SAY KANLTS OF OCTOBER 2022, NO INITIAL SHALL HIRE OR FILL AN EMPLOYEE POSITION THAT IS VACANT UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY THE COURT. NO SALARY, ALLOWANCE OR COMPENSATION SHALL BE PAID EXCEPT FOR THOSE ON THE PAIL ROLL UNTIL OCTOBER 1. AND SALARY AN FRINGE BENEFITS FOR EACH VACANT EMPLOYEE MAY BE TRANSFERRED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO A SPECIAL RESERVE DESIGNATED BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR. THE FUNDS ARE FROZEN FOR EACH VACANT UNLESS RELEASED AND REINSTATED BY THE COURT.

A ORDER THAT WILL BE SIGNED LATER TO TODAY.

I DON'T BELIEVE ANY FURTHER ACTION THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN AT THIS TIME. DID I -- WE ARE ALL COMPLETE NOW. ON THE ORDERS TO RESCIND LAST YEAR'S BUDGET. THE NEW ORDERS TO PROPOSE FOR THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. I WILL ASK AGAIN.

HOW ARE WE LOOK WITH REGARDS TO ALL OF THE --

>>THE TRAVEL MILEAGE, PER DEE YUM, ALL OF THAT.

I AM GOING -- I THINK WHAT I WILL DO IS JUST -- LET ME AMEND MY MOTION TO INCLUDE THEM. ALL RIGHT.

AND THEY ARE INCORPORATED BY REFERENCE BY BEING ATTACHED TO THIS AGENDA. SO THAT BE AN AMENDMENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THAT ORDER TO INCLUDE NOT JUST THE BUDGET AUTHORITY FOR EMPLOYEE POSITIONS BUT PLEASE INCLUDE THE TRAVEL MILEAGE AND PER DIEM REIMBURSEMENT RATES.

THE COUNTY INTERFUND LOANS AS WELL AS THE FINANCIAL GUIDELINES FOR THE MINIMAL -- GENERAL FUND RESERVES.

AND THE ORDER ESTABLISHING FINANCIAL GUIDELINES FOR REVENUE GENERATED AT THE RICHARD BORCHARD FAIRGROWN AND FINALLY THE RESOLUTION REGARDING SPECIAL REVENUE ACCOUNT FOR DEPOSIT OF COUNTY FUNDS RECEIVED FROM THE SALE OF FIXED ASSETS.

ALL OF THESE WILL BE THE -- WILL BE INCLUDED BY REFERENCE AS -- AS PUBLISHED IN OUR AGENDA. AND I WOULD ASK THAT BE INCLUDED BY AMENDMENT. IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH REGARD TO ANY OF THOSE. THOSE ARE ALL TO BE REPRESENTED DALE AND TERESA, AIDEE. THOSE ARE IN KEEPING WITH OUR NORMAL BUSINESS PRACTICES, THEY HAVE NOT CHANGED SUBSTANTIVELY.

WE APPROVE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE RESOLUTIONS EACH FISCAL YEAR. IS THAT ACCURATE? CONFIRMED. HAVING SUCH AMENDMENT ENTERED.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGH AYE. OPPOSED, TIME SIGN.

OKAY. DID WE GET YOU GUYS.

ALL THE RESOLUTIONS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: AT THIS TIME THE INDULGENCE OF THE COURT GIVES US A CHANCE TO GET THIS UPDATE THAT WE NEED.

ALLOWS FOR AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT OF BREAK AND NOURISHMENT AND GO STRAIGHT INTO BUDGET. WE WILL NOT TACKLE ALL OF THE EXECUTIVE ITEMS, KARA, JUST THIS ONE FOR TIMING WISE.

[4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.]

AND SO -- IT IS 2:23 P.M. AND I AM GIVING NOTICE AS THE PRESIDING OFFICER THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSSION MATTERS LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

AND WHEN AUTHORIZED BY PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS

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ACT CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

IN ADDITION ARE I CERTIFIED THESE ARE ALL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GOVERNOR VERNON TEXAS CODES 71, 72, 73, WILL HOLD IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH YOU ARE TO ATTORNEY INCLUDING MATTERS OF REAL PROPERTY, PERSONNEL MATTERS, DETERMINATION, SECURITY DEVICES.

PERMISSIVE AND THE ONE WE WILL DO SHORTLY THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ANY OTHER MATTERS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION UPON COMPLETION WE WILL RETURN INTO OPEN SESSION AND WE MAY TAKE ACTION AS APPROPRIATE ON ITEMS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE CLERK. THE TIME IS 2:24 P.M.

IF YOU ARE NOT HERE, WE ASK THAT YOU CLEAR THE COURT ROOM AND WE WILL BE BACK SHORTLY. WE ARE GAVELLED OUT.

AGAIN AT 2:24 P.M.

. >>JUDGE CANALES: AND WE MAY MAKE A DETERMINATION ON ONE PARTICULAR ITEM B, BUT WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR MORE INFORMATION.

ITEM B ON ITEM B AS THIS BARBARA, BUT WE ARE WAIT FOR INFORMATION AND WE WILL HOLD ON THAT.

IF YOU GET IT, JENNY, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

ALL RIGHT. AND ALL RIGHT.

SO WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK AND TRY TO HIT A LOT OF ITEMS IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. IT MAY NOT MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE DIDN'T DO 15 BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. WE WILL DO IT IN OPEN COURT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE DID NOT. WE DID NOT DO THAT ONE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CAN WE TABLE THAT ONE FOR NEXT WEEKS

SINCE WE ARE BACK IN A WEEK? >>JUDGE CANALES: ITEM NUMBER 15 HAD A COMPANION IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[15. Discuss and consider taking action on the legal (engagement) services of Baker Wotring LLP regarding Padre Balli Park and related matters.]

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CAN WE TABLE IT A WEEK, COMMISSIONERS.

I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE 15 UNTIL NEXT WEEK.

. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AND A SECOND TABLING ITEM NUMBER 15 UNTIL SEPTEMBER 14.

[5. Discuss and consider adoption of the 2022-2023 Nueces County Budget.]

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

DALE, THEY ARE AWARDING TOWARD ADOPTION OF A BUDGET, FISCAL YEAR 2022-2023 BUDGET. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SET ANY, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS FOR US. BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE THAT REPRESENT DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. HOMER FLOREZ IS HERE REPRESENTING JUVENILE. SCOTT CROSS REPRESENTING COULDESTAL PARKS. INTEREST TIMOTHY FAGAN REPRESENTING THE MEDICAL EXAMINER.

AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTORER OF OPERATIONS FOREST MITCHELL.

COULD BE THERE ARE OTHERS, BUT THOSE ARE THE ONE THAT ARE HERE.

AND I WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS AND OR ISSUES.

BUT I WILL LET YOU START NOW. >> YES, YOUR HONOR.

WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF SCENARIOS THROUGH THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS AND COMPILED AND PUT TOGETHER FOR A PROPOSED BUDGET WHICH WE FIELD FOR THE COUNTY CLERK AS REQUIRED BY THE LAW.

AND PROVIDE EACH OF YOU A COPY. THERE ARE SOME AREAS IN THE -- IN THE BUDGET THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.

THERE ARE -- WE FOUND A FEW ERRORS ON PAGE 88 FOR J PP 52.

AND ACCOUNT LIBRARY ON PAGE 117. THESE ERRORS WILL BE FIXED.

FOR ADJUSTMENTS. THESE ARE THE BUDGET CHALLENGES WE HAVE DISCUSSED ABOUT. THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO BRING TO THE COURT IS WHEN WE STARTED DOING THIS INFORMATION, I HAD THE BOARD OF JUDGES APPROVE MY SALARY AS REQUIRED BY LAW. CHAPTER 152,.# 2 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. PARDON ME.

IN THAT IT WAS SET AND IF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TAKES AN ACTION LIKE -- LIKE A -- INFORMATION, MY AUTHORITY WOULD BE ADJUSTED FOR THAT. WHEN DOING THAT, NOT EXCEED THE HIGH -- THE HIGHEST PAID ELECTED OFFICIAL WHICH IS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. HERS IS PACED ON STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS OF CERTAIN LEVELS OF THE LAW.

AND WE PROBABLY WOULD WANT TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO GET THIS RESOLVED AND WE BELIEVE THE BASE VALUE IS LOWER THAN SHOULD BE. AND COST IN THE GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 1-# THAT SAYS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT CAN ALLOW MY SALARY TO EXCEEDED ELECTED OFFICIAL EVEN BY A SMALL AMOUNT IF THE COURT. I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE IN THE IN NINE AND A HALF YEARS. WORK WITH THE COUNTY ONLY 20 YEARS. I I ONLY SEE A FEW WAGES.

I FELT JUSTIFIED MY SALARY GO -- AND EXCEEDS THAT BUT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT DOES HAVE IS THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE MY SALARY SLIGHTLY ABOVE THAT OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

I AM SUGGESTING THAT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND YOUR APPROVAL.

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THAT IS THE BALANCES WE HAVE SO FAR IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

WE WANT TO GO AHEAD BEFORE WE TALK OF THE OTHER -- IN THE COURT ROOM, WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND FOR CONSTABLE PRECINCT 2, THERE ARE CURRENTLY FOUR POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE PUT IN FOR. THE MENTAL HEALTH.

WE WOULD LIKE TO REDUCE TO AND ALLOW THE TWO THAT ARE CURB RENT THERE. AND SO MY SUBMISSION OF THE BUDGET WILL BE AS SUBMITTED FIXING THE SMALL AREAS WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN MY SALARY AS WHAT WAS PUTS IN THE BUDGET AND REDUCE THOSE TWO POSITIONS FROM THE COUNCIL PRECINCT 2.

SUBMISSION I AM PROPOSING FOR THE BUDGET AT THIS TIME.

I KNOW THE OTHER DEFENDANTS T DEPARTMENTS HAVE BROUGHT IN INFORMATION THEY MAY WANT TO DO FURTHER AMENDMENTS, BUT THAT IS -- THAT IS THE PROPOSED BUDGET I AM SUBMITTING AT THIS TIME.

>> FOR CLARIFICATION. THE JUDGES MEETING, THE SAME

NUMBER THAT IS THE BUDGET TODAY? >> A CLAUSE THAT SAYS IN THE ORDER IF THE COURT DOES A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT THEY CAN -- AND MY SALARY THAT WAS -- BY THE BOARD WOULD INCLUDE MY CONTINUANCE BE -- I DIDN'T KNOW THE COLA AT THE TIME AND THE CLAUSE THAT SAYS IT CAN BE INCREASED AND WILL GO UP TO WHERE IT IS AT OR REDUCED TO YOUR VALUE OF UNDER 140,000.

>> THE JUDGES DON'T HAVE TO MEET AGAINST ON THE COLA?

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MY QUESTION, FIRST OF ALL, ON THE -- I GOT TO GO BACK TO THIS PRECINCT.

>> COUNCIL PRECINCT #, YES. -- 23, YES.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHAT WE VOTED ON FOUR POSITIONS REIMBURSED BY THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT THAT DID NOT TURN OUT TO BE KRENTH. CURRENTLY WE HAVE FOUR IN THE BUDGET BUT BEING REIMBURSED BY NOBODY.

>> WE GO FROM LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR'S BUDGET WAS TWO.

WE ADDED TWO MORE. ONE OF THOSE MIDYEAR BALANCES WE HAD AND INCLUDED THAT AS PART OF THE BUDGET AND PROPOSED FOUR TOTAL BUDGETS THAT -- BUT THERE IS ONLY TWO NEW THIS YEAR.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WOULD MOVE THAT THOSE TWO BE REDUCED AND SOMEONE COMES BACK WITH SOME REIMBURSEMENT OR SOMETHING TO REVISIT. AT THIS POINT I HAVE NOTHING TO

DO WITH THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: WAIT A SECOND.

WE HAVE PEOPLE CURRENTLY EMPLOYED RIGHT NOW.

>> THESE ARE THE ONES NOT FILLED YET.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: BELIEVE ME.

THAT IS A LEVEL BOTHERSOME TOO. AND I WILL NOT MESS WITH THAT.

BUT THE TWO UNFELLED, I MOVE THAT WE TAKE THOSE OUTS.

>>THE BALANCE PROPOSED. INFORMATION WE HAVE WHICH INCLUDES THE COST OF LIVING. THE CADETS AT 10%.

MY SALARY SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE OTHER ERRORS IN PAGES 88, 91, 117.

SUMMER ROARS AND ALL REDUCTIONS WHEN WE FIX THEM AND ADJUSTMENT AND REMOVING THE TWO CONSTABLE POSITION THAT ARE FOR MENTAL HEALTH, REMOVING THOSE FROM THE BUDGET IS MY CURRENT PROPOSAL FOR THE BUDGET. I KNOW WE HAVE SOME OTHER ITEMS HERE FOR CONSIDERATION FOR AMENDMENTS TO THE PROPOSED AND THAT IS MY SUBMISSION AT THIS TIME.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T KNOW IF I GOT A SECOND ON THAT

MOTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL HAVE A

LOT OF AMENDMENTS HERE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUST THE

FIRST ONE TO MAKE. >> THE TWO CONSTABLES.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THE LIBRARY AND THE VEHICLE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MY FIRST MOTION IF IT DOESN'T HAVE A SECOND SO BE IT. TO MOVE THOSE UNFUNDED POSITIONS. UNFUNDED BY SOMEONE ELSE FROM OUR BUDGET. AND THAT THE REIMBURSEMENT THAT COMES THROUGH WILL COVER THE TWO THAT WE HAVE.

BECAUSE THAT IS HOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE.

WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE REIMBURSED FOR THOSE POSITIONS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

THIS IS NOT COMPREHENSIVE. WE WILL HEAR FROM MORE PEOPLE ON

THE BUDGET. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT WAS

JUST ONE. >>JUDGE CANALES: GO AHEAD.

I WILL SECOND THAT. BUT, AGAIN, IT RYE PLACE TO

THOSE LAST TWO. >> THE LAST TWO ADDED.

NO ONE IS IN THOSE POSITIONS. >> AND WE GET REIMBURSEMENT WORKED OUT REIMBURSE THE TWO CONDITIONS THAT WE DO HAVE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN REIMBURSED TO BEGIN WITH.

>> AND IN THE CONSTABLE AGREES TO HMID, THEY CAN BE BROUGHT IN

AT A FURTHER TIME. >>JUDGE CANALES: ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT ISSUE. HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THAT IS GOING TO GIVE US PLUS WHAT? ON -- WHEN YOU REMOVE OF THE

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TWO. WHAT ARE YOU GETTING PLUS.

TAKE CAN TABS. >> 87,115.

>>JUDGE CANALES: $87,115. >> THEY WERE VACANT.

>> 20% OF THAT. PROBABLY AROUND 100,000 MORE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YOU WILL ADD ON WHAT COST US -- FIGURING OUT THE 87. THAT JUST THE SALARIES ALONE.

>> THE 87 WAS JUST THE SALARIES ALONE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YOU WOULD ADD 25%.

>>JUDGE CANALES: 20. >> WE HAD IT ON THE -- I DIDN'T

BREAK IT DOWN. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU GUYS CAN

UPDATE HERE. >> 110,000, COMMISSIONER.

>>JUDGE CANALES: KEEPING THAT TABULATION.

SO LISTEN, NOW I WANT TO MOVE TO -- ARE YOU GOOD, DALE, IF I MOVE

ON? >> YES.

>>JUDGE CANALES: HOMER, A LESSON IN PATIENCE.

YOU HAVE SOME IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO ADD.

AND A REQUEST THAT YOU WANT TO BE CONSIDERED REGARDING YOUR OFFICERS. CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS INSIDE

JUVENILE. >> YES, JUNG, COMMISSIONERS.

FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT MY SALARY MATCHED TO DALE'S. I AM KIDDING.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NO YOU ARE NOT.

. >>JUDGE CANALES: SHE JUST WANTS

YOU TO SPEAK UP. >> I AM JUST JOKING MY SALARY.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NO YOU ARE NOT.

>> WELL, I DON'T WANT IT TO DROP.

CAN YOU HEAR ME FINE? >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, THANK YOU.

>> AS A FOLLOW-UP TO LAST WEEK. WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING AND THE ISSUE OF -- MY ORIGINAL REQUEST FOR OUR JUVENILE SUPERVISION OFFICERS RECLASS. THAT IS WHAT WAS DISCUSSED.

AND THE COMMISSIONERS WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE REVENUE THAT OUR FACILITY BRINGS IN. OUR TWO FACILITIES THAT IS, OUR DETENTION CENTER AND POST ADJUDICATION CENTER.

AND WE LOOKED AT THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME OF THOSE REVENUES OFFSETTING ANY INCREASE IN COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE RECLASS.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO, GUESS, RAISE THE RATE OF WHICH WE CHARGE OUT OF COUNTY -- OUT OF COUNTIES TO HOUSE THEIR KIDS IN OUR FACILITIES. YESTERDAY, I BROUGHT THAT BEFORE OUR JUVENILE BOARD. THEY DID, IN FACT, RAISE THE RATES IN BOATS OF OUR FACILITY FROM $100 IN OUR PREADJUDICATION AND DETENTION INCENTIVE TO $150. AND OUR POST-ADJUDICATION FROM $162 TO $200. CURRENTLY SPEAKING, WE ARE ESTIMATED AT THE CURRENT RATE. LEAK THIS FISCAL YEAR TO BRING IN APPROXIMATELY $313,000 FOR OUR BARNS OR OUR POST-ADJUDICATION. THAT IS AT THE CURRENT REAL GIVEN WE HAVE A VERY LOW POPULATION OF OUT-OF-COUNTY RESIDENTS. IF YOU WERE TO RAISE THAT TO $200 A DAY. AN WHEN WE GET UP TO STAFFING AND GET THE REGULAR NUMBER OF OUT OF H-OF-COUNTY RESIDENTS USUALLY BETWEEN 10 AND 11, ESTIMATED OF $590,000 A YEAR.

THAT IS WHEN WE WILL GO FULL FORCE, FULL LEGAL STAFFED AND THE USUAL NUMBER OF RESIDENTS THERE.

FOR DETENTION, IT IS ALWAYS A HARDER NUMBER TO GET A CONFIDENT NUMBER, BECAUSE NUECES COUNTY IS USED AS BASICALLY THE REGIONAL OVERFLOW. ALL THE COUNTIES HAVE THEIR OWN REALLY DEDICATED DETENTION CENTERS THAT THEY USUALLY CONTRACT WITH. AND USUALLY THE ONES IF, THEY IN FACT, ASK IF THEY ARE FULL OR NOT.

A HARDER NUMBER TO GATHER, BUT IN A CONSERVE TESTIFY NUMBER, THAT WILL BE APPROXIMATELY $32,000 AGAIN THE NEW RATES.

THERE ARE SOME -- I HOPE THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TO OFFSET ANY INCREASE IN OUR RECLASSES THAT WAS HOPEFULLY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL

CONSIDER. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: HOMER, IF THEY GET THE 6% INCREASE. WILL THAT AUTOMATICALLY BRING

THEM UP? >> BRING IT UP ABOUT -- PUT IT THIS WAY, COMMISSIONER. SO FOR JSOS ON THE FLOOR.

I WAS LOOKING AT A -- AN INCREASE FROM $15.52.

TO ONE SECOND HERE. TO $17.20.

THE 6% BASICALLY BROUGHT THEM HALFWAY BETWEEN.

DIDN'T NECESSARILY BRING THEM THE FULL -- ALL THE WAY, BUT ALMOST ALL THE WAY. I WAS REQUESTING A 10.8%

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INCREASE. >> LISA DID SUPPLY YOU THE INFORMATION ON THAT FOR POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS.

THE THIRD PAGE IN. SHOWS YOU WHAT THE WORK WITH HOMER AND HIS STAFF AND SFF THE JUVENILE SUPERVISION OFFICERS AS WELL AS THE REGULAR JUVENILE SUPERVISION AND INTENTION 46 EMPLOYEES THAT MOVE THEM FROM A PAY GROUP 17 TO 18 FOR MOST OF THEM AND 19 TO 21 FOR THE REST. ABOUT ADDS 208,000.

$208,791 INCREASE TO RECLASS THEM UP ONE STEP.

ONE GROUP. ONE GROUP.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MENUS THE COLA.

>> MINUS BOTH, COLA AND CLASSIFICATION.

>> 6% COLA AND ONLY 4.8% TO GET TO THE 10.8.

>> BECAUSE OF THE WAY OUR PAY SCHEDULE IS, IT IS ABOUT 11 PLUS

THE 6, A 17% TOTAL. >> GO FROM SIX AND ADD ANOTHER

TWO AND A HALF PERCENT. >> THEY HAVE TO STAY ON THE PAY

SCHEDULES. >>JUDGE CANALES: INSIDE THE PAY GROUP. THE BEST OPTION IS TO MOVE UP

THE PAY GROUP. >>THE SAME PAY GROUP, 6%.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: BASED ON THE OLD OR THE NEW PAY GROUP.

MOVING FROM LAST PAY GROUP TO THIS PAY GROUP.

STAY AT THE 17, A 6% INCREASE AND WE COULDN'T MOVE THEM -- CONTINUANCE, THE ONLY WAY TO INCREASE THEM HIGHER IS MOVING UP ONE GROUP. FOR THIS PARTICULAR REASON, THE WAY OUR PAY SCHEDULE, A LARGE INCREASE BETWEEN THE TWO GROUPS,

11% ON TOP OF THE 6. >> 17% RAISE.

>> YES. >> REMIND THE COMMISSIONERS AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, WE ARE -- IF NOT ONE OF THE LOWEST PAID IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AT 15.

>>> $15752 AN HOUR. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I GET IT. LIKE -- SO YOU CAME IN ASKING FOR 10.8. LEAVING WITH 17.

A BIT OF A STRUGGLE. FIGURE OUT HOW -- THERE HAS GOT TO BE A WAY WE CAN DO THAT UNTIL WHERE -- GOT TO BE A WAY TO DO THAT OTHER THAN GOING TO 17% AND HAVING TO FIGURE OUT WHY WE FIGURE THAT OUT. I GET THAT WE NEED TO HELP THEM.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS GO AHEAD AND MOVE IT UP ONE PAY GROUP BECAUSE WE ARE NEVER GOING TO MAKE THE LEAP ANY OTHER WAY. YOU CAN'T GO HALFWAY.

THAT IS WHY COLAS ARE WONDERFUL FOR EQUITY, RIGHT.

FOR ACTUALLY EQUALITY, I SHOULD SAY, BUT NOT FOR EQUITY.

BECAUSE IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO HE CAN QUESTION TEE YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE EVERYONE TO WHERE THEY SHEET NO BE OR CREATE A UNIFORM PLATFORM. WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT CHOICE GIVEN US TO THIS YEAR BECAUSE A NEED TO IT BE, YOU KNOW, TO WORK ON THAT. BUT, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE IS IT OUR GRANTS DIRECTOR, WE MADE SOME MAJOR CHANGES THIS YEAR.

AND WHEN WHEN SAID, HEY, WE WANT TO CREATE NEW SALARIES AND WHAT I LOOKED AT WITH AS ABOUT 16% KIND OF INFORMATION AND WHAT WAS WHEN WE POSTED FOR SOME OTHER FOLKS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT JIVES WITH.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHERE DOES THE #00,000 COME FROM.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THE OFFSET. >> ADDITION PAL REVENUE WILL GIVE THE $250,000 TO PAY THE DIFFERENCE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I AM SORE SORRY, DALE, WE WILL NEED AN

ADDITIONAL $200,000. >> WHAT HOMER WAS SAYING, THE BOARD APPROVED THE RATE INCREASES.

THE RATE INCREASE WILL BRING FROM 125 TO 200,000 ADDITIONAL REVENUE. HE IS SAYING THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE WILL PAY FOR THIS RECLASSIFICATION.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IS YOU DIDN'T NEED MORE.

IN THE JUVENILE BOARD, IT WAS A FEW A NUMBER NEWS DECISION TO DO THAT. IN THIS WAY, WE ARE ABLE TO MOVE THE PAY GROUP UP. WHICH MAKES THE MAJOR CHANGE, AS WELL AS AS FAR AS CREATE THE OFF-SET WITH THE ADDITIONAL FEES. DO YOU BELIEVE IT TO BE NET NEUTRAL. OR IS IT TOO HARD TO PREDICT.

>> WORKING WITH HOMER. IF THE VACANCIES -- IF THEY GO AWAY AND WE GET MORE FULL STAFF TO HOUSE THE NUMBER OF JUVENILES THAT WE CAN, WE BELIEVE ONNAGE IN PREVIOUS YEARS, THEY COLLECTED THEYWHERE FROM 350 TO $500,000.

YOU RAISE THE RATES ON TOP OF THAT, YOU GET ANYWHERE FROM

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$450,000 TO $700,000. I BELIEVE THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE FROM THIS IF WE GET TO WHERE PEOPLE COME AND WORK HERE, I BELIEVE THE REVENUE WILL OFF SET THE COST OF THE

RECLASSIFICATION. >> CURRENT RATES JUST TO ADD TO DALE, THE ACTUALS FROM 2018 TO PRESENT, THE.$299,523,323.

NOT INCLUDING THE RATE INCREASE. >> ONCE AGAIN, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE FROM THAT $15-AN HOUR MARK IF WE DO THIS PAY GROUP AND 6%. WHAT WILL IT BE $17.80.

$18. WE WILL SEE THE MOVEMENT OF $.20. SO I AM -- I AM GOING TO MAKE -- I AM GOING TO MAKE THAT MOTION THAT WE ADJUST THE PAY GROUP IN LIGHT OF THE OFFSET THAT THE JUVENILE BOARD UNANIMOUSLY VOTED ON. AND THIS THIS WILL APPLY TO THE CATEGORY OF -- HOMER, HELP ME FILL IN THE BLANK.

THE JUVENILE CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS.

>> JUVENILE SUPERVISION OFFICERS.

>> THANK YOU JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: IS THERE A

SECOND FOR THAT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SECOND.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSE, SAME SIGN. THANK YOU TO THE MANY JUDGES

THAT SAT ON THE JUVENILE BOARD. >> HOMER, YOU HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE. YOU WANTED TO DO ONE OTHER ITEM FOR YOUR PARTICULAR ITEM. YOU WANTED TO REDUCE SOME OF YOUR -- SOME OF YOUR JUVENILE DETENTION AND JSO TO CONTAIN A PLATER. THERE IS AS SEGMENT IS TO THAT.

>> WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE EASIER TO MANAGE -- IN THE CONTROL ROOM -- EACH FACILITY HAS A CONTROL ROOM.

AND THE CONTROL ROOM DUTIES ARE JEWS THAT.

YOU STAY IN THE CONTROL ROOM BECAUSE ONE ALWAYS HAS TO STAY THERE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE JUPE NILE SUPERVISION AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO CARRY A CERTIFICATION TO RUN A CONTROL ROOM. AGAIN OUR SHORTAGE IN TRYING TO HIRE PEOPLE AND THE FACT THAT SOME PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE HAD TO PASS YOU HAVE BECAUSE OF THEIR INABLE TO WORK FLOOR, IF YOU WILL, THEY WILL MAKES GOOD, COMPETENT CONTROL ROOM OFFICERS.

WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IT SHALL HELP US IN BOTH ATTRACTING PEOPLE FOR THAT PARTICULAR POSITION KNOWING THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE OUT ON THE FLOOR. AND WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A COST SAVINGS AS WELL. THE COST SAVINGS.

AND CURRENTLY THE SALARY FOR -- TOTAL OF FOUR OFFICERS.

TWO IN THE JUVENILE DETENTION AND TWO IN THE POST-AJUDE IF I OCCASION. REDUCING SALARIES FROM THE JUVENILE DETENTION OFFICERS TO JSOS.

FROM $167,000 TO $162,000. SAVING FROM $5,000 TO $10,000.

>>JUDGE CANALES: YOU ARE MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION US TO.

>> YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO IF -- NET REVENUE OF BOARD OF DIRECTORS

10,000. >> $10,000, AROUND THAT, YES.

AND AGAIN FOR THE CLERK, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAUGHT THE ACTUAL

TITLE OF IT, BUT OPERATORS. >> MAIN CONTROL OPERATORS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: MAIN CONTROL OPERATORS.

AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: HOMER, WHEN I WAS WORKING DETENTION IN JUVENILE, I WAS MAKING $8 AN

HOUR. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHEN I WAS A

LITTLE GIRL -- WERE $.25. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I

WORKED AT THE DETENTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE ARE IN 2022 AND IN THE FIGHT OF OUR LIVES TO SAY COMPETITIVE.

THANK YOU, SO MUCH, HOMER, FOR BEING WITH US TODAY.

WHAT I AM GOING TO DO NOW IS ASK DR. FAGAN TO COME FORWARD AND YOU HAVE A NICE POWERPOINT, PRESENTATION.

AND BEFORE YOU GET HERE, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR DALE.

BECAUSE IT MAY ASSIST YOU. LAST WEEK MR. MITCHELL CAME AND SHOWCASED SOME ACTUAL RESOURCES THAT HE NEEDED.

I THINK THEY TOTAL SOMEWHERE BETWEEN $120,000 CUMULATIVELY.

IF -- IF WE WANTED TO -- IS SPECIAL REVENUE AVAILABLE.

LIKE I BELIEVE -- >> WE ARE WORK WITH SOME OF THIS. BROUGHT THIS BACK LAST YEAR BY -- BY DR. HERNANDEZ. AND I BELIEVE THE -- SEVERAL OF THESE ITEMS ARE ALREADY BEING LOOKED TO BE PRCHLD FROM THE COS

WE HAD AT THE TEAM. >>JUDGE CANALES: IF NOT MY

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SPECIAL REVENUE AND WE JUST GOT AN UPDATE.

>> MOST OF THE INCHES IS SOMETHING WE ARE WORKING TO ACQUIRING. AND I KNOW -- ONE OF THE CO

ITEMS WILL BE PURCHASING. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WANTED YOU TO GO THROUGH IT BUT MAY HELP SET THE TEMPO HERE.

ALL OF THESE ITEMS ARE CUMULATIVE TO THE 120.

I THINK THERE ARE MULTIPLE WAYS TO FUND AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL THAT IS AN ASK THAT IS UNIQUE INSIDE THIS BUDGET.

I HAVE SPECIAL REVENUE DOLLARS THAT I THINK WILL GET THE BILL.

AND PAY, A RENTLY CO DOLLARS THAT FIT THE BILL.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IF NOT. TERESA, YOU ARE BASING IT OFF OF -- A CONSOLIDATION OF 16S TO THE # 1S.

OKAY, DR. FAIRING. GO AHEAD.

I THOUGHT I WOULD LEAD WITH GOOD NEWS.

>> I KNOW THAT MR. MITCHELL PRESENTED LAST WEEK AND A REPRESENT. AND GET INTO THE FINER DETAILS.

SO OBVIOUSLY THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT LED TO ME -- LED FOR ME TO BE IN THIS OFFICE IS UNPRECEDENTED WITH HAVING TO CONTRACT AND NOT HAVING ANY TYPE OF INPUT INTO THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET. WHAT I AM LEFT WITH IS ASKING -- RIGHT BEFORE THE END OF FINAL BUDGET IS DUE FOR THESE ITEMS AND JUST THE TIMING THAT HAPPENED IN THE OFFICE AND WHEN I DID START AND WHEN WAS THE INITIAL BUDGET DUE.

THESE BASICALLY REPRESENT -- SOME OF THEM ARE ITEMS FROM MY CONTRACT DIRECTLY WITH NUECES COUNTY THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND ROTFIED. SOME OF THESE ARE NEW REQUESTS.

THEY ARE BASED ON -- I AM IN MY JOB FOR MY SEVENTH WEEK.

SOME OF THAT WERE STAFFING THAT WOULD GO ALONG WITH SUPPORTING A STAFF OF THAT NATURE. SO JUST GOING INTO THE NEXT SLIDE. I WILL TRY TO GO THROUGH THIS JUST BRIEFLY AND GO INTO SOME OF THE SUBSTANCE BECAUSE I REALIZE IT IS GETTING ADVANCED IN THE DAY.

OBVIOUSLY THE NUECES COUNTY MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE, THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT ARE SENATOR CORPUS CHRISTI POP WE PROVIDE SERVICES NOT ONLY NUECES COUNTY BUT 20 OTHER COUNTIES VIA INTERLOCAL. 3300 DEATHS REPORTED TO THE OFFICE.735 WERE NUECES COUNTY DECEDENTS AND 419 FOR OTHER COUNTIES FOR POSTMORTEM EXAMINATION.

THE OFFICE COLLECTS SAMPLE ARE TODNA ANALYSIS AND WE ARE SEEKING TO COLLABORATE WITH A FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST WHO IS BASED THE TEXAS A&M, CORPUS CHRISTI.

AND TO MAKE A MEDICAL CENTER FOR NOT ONLY CORPUS CHRISTI BUT THE ENTIRE REGION. RECEIVED $1 SP 209 MILLION FOR REVENUE FUND. FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021-'22.

BUDGET FOR A TOTAL OF 17 FULL TIME POSITIONS AND ADDITIONAL TEMPORARY DOCTORS AND INVESTIGATIVE STAFF.

AS I ALLOWED TO -- NEXT SLIDE. I ALLUDED IN THE PREAMBLE.

THE PURPOSES IS TO INFORM THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BASED ON OPERATIONAL DEFICIENCIES AND WEAKNESSINGS.

THE THREE TOP PRESENTATION ARE STAFFING, SALARY STUDY AND EQUIPMENT NEEDS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS IS ESSENTIALLY -- WHAT CHANGES WERE ALREADY AUTHORIZED BY COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR THIS FIZZ CALLING CAL YEAR.

JUST HIGHLIGHTING THE CHANGES. THE CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINE PER SALARY GONE UP. AS THE CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER.

TO THE TO BE ADDED MEDICAL EXAMINER POSITION.

SLIGHTED CONTRACTED AT 335,000. .WE USED JULY 1 AS THE TARGET STARTOUT OF THE COUNTY HAVING TO START WITH THAT POSITION, THEN BETWEEN THAT START DATE VERSUS THE END OF THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR,

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THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL $83,000 TO PAY FOR THAT PORTION OF THE DOCTOR'S SALARY.

THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS POSITION WAS ADDED BEFORE MY ARRIVAL. THAT JUST CONTINUES.

AND YB US LEAVE THE REQUISITE BENEFITS FOR BEING A NUECES COUNTY EMPLOYEE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

JUST STAFFING. WHAT HAVE I DONE SINCE START THIS OFFICE? SI HIRED A DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS. BY HEADED OUR DEPUTY CHEAP.

SEPTEMBER 26. OUR OFFICE MANAGER POSITION IS CURRENTLY VACANT. THAT IS NOT POSTED YET.

THAT ONE IS GOING THROUGH CIVIL SERVICE, SO THAT.

POSTED YET BUT I WILL BE POSTING.

WE ARE ASKING FOR ONE ADDITIONAL AUTOPSY TECHNICIAN.

SO HERE IS THE BACKGROUND FOR THAT.

ALL OFFICES HAVE TO PECULIAR KIND OF A TARGET HOW FAR MANY -- A MORE TECHNICIANS PER DOCTOR. I AM MIRRORING WHAT BEXAR COUNTY DOES ONE TECH CHRISTIAN -- HAVING ONE OR MORE TECHNICIAN PER DOCTOR ALLOW THAT DOCTOR TO PERFORM CASES IN A MORE EXPEDITIOUS MANNER. PREPARING THE NEXT BODY FOR AUTOPSY, I CAN HAVE THAT TECHNICIAN CLEANUP AFTER AUTOPSY. I CAN HAVE THAT NECK INITIAL SHAN ENTERING THE TOXICOLOGY. DOING X-RAYS -- I CAN HAVE THAT EXTRA MORE TECHNICIAN DOING A LOT OF THINGS.

NO SHORT OF WORK, APROMISE YOU. I AM JUST MIRRORING BEXAR COUNTY. WHAT THE STATE OF UTAH AND MARICOPA COUNTY IN PHOENIX ALSO USE AT ALL.

IT IS A NUMBER JUST SET. THIS COUNTY NEVER SET THAT NUMBER BECAUSE THE OFFICE GREW OUT OF ESSENTIALLY ONE TESH CHRISTIAN, ONE DOCTOR, ONE INVESTIGATOR IS AND ONE SHOP.

I AM TRYING TO REMODERNIZE AND REBUILD OFFICE.

ONE TECH CHRISTIAN UNDER STANDING WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THREE DOCTORS WITHIN -- IN. WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR.

IT'S MOST BENEFICIAL IF I HAVE TIME TO GET THAT TECH HIGH PRESSURE IN SHAN TRAINED BEFORE THAT DOCTOR ARRIVED.

A LEARNING CURVE. UNLESS THEY COME FROM ANOTHER OFFICE THEY NEED TO LEARN OUR WAY OF DOING THAT.

A LEARNING CURB. IF I GET THE POSITIONS NOW I CAN HIRE THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS. I HAVE ABOUT NINE MONTHS TO GET THEM UP TO SPEED WHEN THE NEXT DOCTOR ARRIVES I HAVE THEM TRAINED AND READY TO GO. THE MOST LIKELY POOL IS FOR SOMEBODY TO BE CURRENTLY IN TRAINING.

THAT MEANS USUALLY ON ARRIVAL, THERE ARE IN NEED OF FULLY METEOROLOGISTS AND HAVE PRACTICE IN A WEIGH THAT COMMISSIONERS UNDERSTAND. TO GET THAT DOCTOR TO ANDLE 90 PLUS. WHETHER YOU ARE TALKING OF FRIENDS OF PEDIATRICS. A LEARNING CURVE ONCE IT IS YOUR SHOW AND RUN IT. BASICALLY HOW DOES THE NEW DOCTOR GET THE FINAL TRAINING. THAT IS THE JOB OF THE DEPUTY CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER. TRAINING ON THE DOCTOR'S SIDE AND THE TEXT HAVING TOO. HAVING ADDITIONAL TECHNICIAN IN PLACE AND ALREADY TRAINED UP WILL HELP THAT TRANSITION AS WE BUILD OUR STAFF SO WE HAVE ALL THE TECHNICIANS ALREADY TRAINED AND EXPERIENCED AND THE DOCTOR WILL BE -- EVERYTHING IS IN SPACE SUCH THAT IS THE MOST LIKELY POOL FOR ME TO HIRE FROM.

AND I GAVE THAT DOCTOR THE BEST CHANCE OF SUCCESS ON ARRIVAL.

TWO OF US CHIEF AND DEPUTY CHEAP AND ALL EXPERIENCED MORE TECHNOLOGY TO HELP THAT DOCTOR SUCCEED AND DO TOP QUARTER WORK.

ONE OF MY PRIMARY MISSIONSES TO HAVE QUALITY SERVICES FOR NUECES COUNTY AND ITS PARTNER WILDFIRES COUNTIES.

THAT WAS THE CRITICISM LAUNCHED AGAINST MY PREDECESSOR.

I CAN'T HAVE THAT HAPPEN AGAIN. WHICH MEANS I NEED TO HAVE

RESOURCES. >>JUDGE CANALES: DR. FAGAN, FORGIVE THE INTERRUPTION. I KNOW YOU NOT HAD ADEQUATE TIME TO PUT FORTH A COMPLETE PRESENTATION, BUT DO YOU BELIEVE IN THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR THERE MIGHT ALSO BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME OFFSETS AGAIN THAT WE ARE GOING TO RELOOK AN RECYCLE THAT WHICH WOULD BE THE OUT-OF-COUNTY FEES.

DO YOU THINK THAT IS IMMINENT IN THE SENSE -- WOULD THAT BE

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SOMETHING YOU COULD BRING TO THE COURT.

YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY BY THE END OF THE YEAR PERHAPS IF WE WERE ABLE TO APPROVE NEEDED ITEMS FOR NUECES COUNTY MEDICAL EXAMINER THAT WE CAN EXPECT THERE COULD BE POTENTIAL OFFSETS.

>> WE CAN HAVE THAT TO THE COURT.

WILL MITCHELL AND I WERE WORKING TO FINALIZE THAT IN THE NEXT WEEK. THAT WAS INDEED PART OF MY CONTRACT. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

TO TRY TO OFFSET THAT OF INCREASING THE OUT-OF-COUNTY CASE FEES. JUST SO THE COURT HAVE ALL THE FACTS AT HAPPENED. WHENEVER EVERY COUNTY RAISES ITS OUT AN OF-COUNTY CASE FEES, THERE IS A SHORT TIME PERIOD WHERE THE JUDGES SENT FEWER CASES THAT COULD LAST A VARYING AMOUNT OF TIME. THAT MONEY DOES EVENTUALLY COME BACK TO NUECES COUNTY FROM THE NEW LEVEL AND THE COUNTIES ARE USED TO -- THAT IS THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS.

WHEN I LOOKED AT THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS, I LOOKED AT WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME THEY HAD TO GIVE IT NOTICE.

MY GOAL IS THAT TO BE I BELIEVE TO BRING THAT TO YOU AND HAVE THAT READY BEFORE THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR SUCH THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM A NOTICE. CLOSE TO THE END OF THEIR OWN FISCAL YEAR, IF THEY NEED TO MAKE SOME LAST-MINUTE BUDGET AJOUSTMENTS ON THEIR OWN. THEY HAVE SOME NOTICE TO DO SO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: UNDERSTOOD. I KNOW YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT AND I AM WONDERING BECAUSE I HAVE MY LEDGER NOW.

SO I AM PLUS 110 ON THE LEFT SIDE.

I AM HOPING THAT -- IS THERE GOING TO BE A SLIDE NUMBER 9 THAT SHOWS THE DOLLARS ON THAT AUTOPSY TECHNICIAN?

>> I WILL SHOW YOU THE UNDER MARKET SURVEY WHAT THAT AUTOPSY

TECH NIFSH SHAN COSTS. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WOULD LIKE TO

SO THAT. >> QUICK TWO FULL-TIME INVESTIGATORS TO HAVE 24-7 STATUTING FOR THE FACILITIES FOR A VARIETIES OF REASONS. AND THOSE ADVISE CAN DO -- IN ADDITION TO BEING THE INVESTOR AND BEING IN-HOUSE CAN DO A FOLLOW-UP OF GETTING RECORDS AND OTHER TASKS SO THEY WILL BE -- THAT TIME WILL BE SPENT WORKING. WILL NOT JUST BE IDLE.

THE DEPUTY MEDICAL EXAMINER POSE HAVEN'T BEEN POSTED.

AND JUST FINALIZED THE AD. AND THE DOCTOR AND I WILL WILL BE TRAVELLING TO DALLAS DALLAS IN OCTOBER AND WE WILL BE TRYING VERY, VERY HARD FOR ATTRACT THE THIRD KOKT DOCTOR FOR NUECES COUNTY. THE TARGET DATE IS NO LATE THAN FIRST OF JULY. WE HAVE THE TEMPORARY DOCTOR SUPPORT APPROVED IN MY CONTRACT WITH DR. FERNANDEZ AND TEMPORARY DOCTORS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OKAY.

SO THE BUDGET -- REVISED BUDGET REQUEST REPRESENT MY BEST ASSESSMENT FOR THE NEEDS OF THE OFFICE TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE NEED ACCRED GRACING FOR THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF MEDICAL EXAMINER AND FOR SERVICES FOR SOUTHWEST TEXAS THIS REQUEST INCLUDES CHA CHANGES FROM CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS.

OPERATIONAL DEMANDS AND WAY ACCREDITATION AND DESIGNS FOR THE COUNTY POLICIES. THIS IS THE MARKET SURVEY.

THIS WAS ADDRESSED IN MY ORIGINAL CONTRACT WAS DOING A MARKET SURVEY. FEW WEEKS AGO, WHEN I WAS SPEAKING TO HUMAN RESOURCES, THEY SAID THEY WERE READY TO START THAT. I CONTACTED THE TWO NEAREST MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICES TO GET THEIR SALARY RANGES.

WITHIN MY CONTRACT, IT DOES INCLUDE LANGUAGE THAT THE MORE TECHNICIANS TO MATCH WITHIN SIX MONTHS BECAUSE WHAT I AM DOING RIGHT NOW IS I AM REWRITING THEIR JOB DESCRIPTIONS TO JUSTIFY WHAT ADDITIONAL DEUTERS THEY ARE DOING FOR THE EXTRA MONEY. AND I AM IN THE PROCESS OF DOING A R&D REWRITING THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS.

I AM GIVING YOU KIND OF SALARY RANGE FOR WHAT TRAVIS AND BEXAR COUNTY COSTS. THE JUDGES QUESTION FOR ADDITIONAL AUTOPSY TECHNICIAN. THE CURRENT NUECES COUNTY RANGE STARTS AT $31,000. MATCH TRAVIS COUNTY IT WILL BE $39,000. IF I WERE TO MATCH BEXAR COUNTY, $36,000. THE TECH CHRISTIANS ARE SPECIFICALLY A PORTION OF MY CONTRACT WHICH IS INCLUDED TO MATCH. LOOKING -- SINCE I KNOW THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED FOR WHERE I GAIN THE 6% ACROSS THE BOARD

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THERE ARE WOULD BE IN LIEU OF THAT.

6% WOULDN'T GET THEM AS HIGH AS MY CONTRACT WOULD OTHERWISE GET THEM. I UNDERSTAND -- THEY WOULD MATCH BASICALLY TRAVIS AND GET THE 6% ON TOP OF THAT.

ONE OR THE OTHER AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

EVERYTHING ELSE JUST TO PUT IT KEENLDZ OF IN A PICTURE FOR WHAT IS THE 6% GIVE YOU FOR CURRENT RANGES.

SO YOU CAN HAVE THAT COMPARE FOR MEDICAL TRANSSCRIPPS DESCRIPTION, IF I GIVE THEM A 6% RAISE, $36,522.

TRAVIS COUNTY AT $35,000. BEXAR COUNTY, THEY WOULD BE $36,000. FOR THE OFFICE OF ADMINISTRATORS. 6%, $42,288 OPPOSED TOO OFFICE SUPERVISOR TRAVIS, $52,000. BEXAR, SOMEBODY STANDINGAL, $72,000 IS WHERE THAT RANGE STARTS.

THE INVESTIGATORS -- IF I WAS GO TO ABOUT WITH THE 6% COST OF LIVING, $39,44. MATCH TRAVIS AT $52,000.

AND BEXAR AT 50,000. THE M.E. COORDINATOR THE ONLY ONE THAT THE 6% GETS YOU HIGHER THAN THE OTHER TWO.

US WITH THE HER $36,6 # 1. THE CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER, THAT ONE TO GIVE HIM 6%, $46,279. TRANSPORTATION, $74,000.

BEXAR STARTS AT 54,000. AND THEN FINALLY FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE CLERK SENIOR CLERK WITH THE KERR CURRENT SALARY AT 6%, $32,542. OFFICE SPECIALIST FOR TRAVIS STARTS AT $35,500. OFFICE ASSISTANT $36,384.

NEXT LEAD IS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE OF SINCE STARTING AM.

I HAVE THREE TEMPORARY INVESTIGATORS.

ONE IN THE OFFICE FOR ONE YEAR. ONE HAS OPINION THERE FOR FIVE YEARS AND THE OTHER IN SIX YEARS.

GOING BY THE NUECES COUNTY CIVIL SERVICE RULES, I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEM IN THIS CAPACITY GREAT ARE THAN 270 DAYS.

FOR YOU WILL THEM HAVE TO MOVE THEM TO PART-TIME.

I AM. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU MEAN TO

FULL TIME. >> THEY HAVE -- THEY ARE

CURRENTLY TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES. >>JUDGE CANALES: OH, I SEE,

TEMPORARY TO PART-TIME. >> MOVING FROM TEMPORARY TO PART-TIME BECAUSE I HAVE TO FOLLOW OUR OWN CIVIL SERVICE RULES. PETITION ALREADY EXCEEDED THE 270 DAYS. AT THE VERY LEAST, I WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THEM PART-TIME. AND I UNDERSTAND AS WELL THAT IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL FULL-TIME INVESTIGATORS POSITIONS ADDED, YES, THE HOURS OF THE PART-TIME EMPLOYEES WILL BE AT THE CREASED AS WELL. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND I AM JUST ABOUT TO WRAP UP. NEW ACCREDITATION OR NEGOTIATE REACCREDITATION HAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON STAFFING.

AUTOPSY TECHNICIANS, A MIR OF IT CLERKS ALL IMPACT THE NUMBER OF AUTOPSIES THAT CAN BE COMPLETED EACH DAY SAND COMPLETION TIME FOR THE FINAL REPORT. THIS COURT HAS FWEVEN MY PRED ITST SESSER A 75-DAY TURN AROUND.

NOWHERE NEAR THAT. ADDING ADDITIONAL DOCTORS PEOPLE. THE NAME GUIDELINES ARE 90 DAYS AND MAY VISIT IS THAT AT HARMIZING THE TWO OF THEM.

FOR NOW, HE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME CLOSE TO 75 DAYS. I GIVE YOU THE SALARY SURVEY JUST TO SHOW THAT NUECES COUNTY IS COMPARED TO OPTIONS.

WE ARE SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER. WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS MIRRORING THE TRAVIS COUNTY SALARIES.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. FOR THE EQUIPMENT -- ACTUALLY ONE THING BEFORE WE FORGET THAT. I WILL SAY THAT -- FOR THE OFFICE WITH WITS ACCREDITATION BEING LAPSED.

EVEN COUNTIES THAT CHOOSE TO PARTNER WITH A SPECIFIC DOCTOR OR PRIVATE, FOUR CASES. THE GREATEST PREFERENCE IS USE CONTINUE TO ACCREDITED OFFICE. EVEN THOUGH WHEN -- WILLIAMSON COUNTY THAT BORDERS TRAVIS TO THE NORTH SWITCH TO USING A PRIVATE DOCTOR THEY STILL BROUGHT THE SPECIFIC SOME DAYSES BECAUSE WE WERE IN AN ACCREDITED OFFICE.

EVEN IF OUR SISTER COUNTIES WILL 'LINE ELSEWHERE, THEY WILL WANT TO COME TO AN ACCREDITED OFFICE. EQUIPMENT NEEDS.

NOW GO TO THE FINAL SLIDE. I KNOW IT HAS ALREADY BEEN

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APPROVED, JUST FOR -- JUST FOR COMPLETEMENT ASKING FOR FOR EQUIPMENT. THE COMPUTERIZED SOFTWARE.

THE PARTICULAR THING WAS -- THAT PARTICULAR ITEM WAS APPROVED ON AUGUST 26. WITH THAT, THOUGH, WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL COMPUTERS AND PRINT REMEMBERS AND SUPPLIES.

BECAUSE IT IS MORE FROM A PAPER BASED ON A COMPUTER BASED ONE AND STREAMLINING THE PROCESS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE THAT WAY THE MORE TECHNICIANS, THE MOMENT OF BODY ARRIVES, SCAN THAT EVIDENCE IN, SCAN ANY PERSONAL PROPERTY, SCAN ANY CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE.

I NEED ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT TO DO THAT.

ALSO THAT WAY I CAN HAVE MY TECHNICIANS.

THINGS ON THE OUT-OF-COUNTY CASE FEES THAT WE ARE WORK ON FINALIZING. WHO BILLS FOR IT IS OUR OFFICE ADMINISTRATION STAFF. THAT SENDS OUT THE BILLS.

THERE ARE EXTRA CHARGES THEY HAVEN'T BEEN LEVYING BECAUSE OF TH FACT THAT THEY -- THE INDIVIDUAL WHO SEE IS THE BODY ISN'T THE ONE WHO BILLS FOR IT. SO THEIR EXTRA CASE FEE IS TO BE CAPTURING IN ADDITION TO THE STRICT AUTOPSY FEE.

THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL -- AND EXAMPLES, EXTRA CHARGES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE PUDDILY OBESED.

EXTRA CHARGES FOR THOSE WHO ARE DECOMPOSED.

WITH THE COMPUTERIZED SYSTEM AND THE APPROPRIATE PER RIFF CAL.

WE CAN HAVE MORE NECK INITIALING SHANS CLICKING AROUND WHAT IS THROUGH AND MOST REVENUE FOR THE COUNTY CASES.

WHEN MY ADMINISTRATION FOLKS ARE SEND SOMETHING THE BILLING NOTICE, EVERY SINGLE THING WE ARE CHARGING FOR IS BEING CHARGED AND WE ARE GETTING AS MUCH REVENUE AS.

ONE OF THE THINGS SWITCHING TO A NEW SYSTEM AS RECOMMENDED BY THE VENDOR, TWO OF THE INDIVIDUALS, MY DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS AND MYSELF TRAVELLING TO ONE OF THE OFFICES CURRENTLY USING THE SYSTEM. IT IS SOMETHING NEW.

WE HAVE TO AAILOR IT TO WHAT WE SPECIFICALLY NEED.

FUND FOR THAT. LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL AIRWAY.

IN THEY CHUTED ONE FILM, WALK DOWN THE HALL.

LOAD IT IN. COME BACK.

DO THE SAME THING AND VERY CUMBERSOME PROCESS.

THE EQUIPMENT WE ARE ASKING FOR WILL LET THEM MOVE DOWN THE BODY AND SPEED UP THE PROCESSING TIME DRAMATICALLY.

GIVES THE ABILITY TO SEE IN. TO SHOOT THE FILL CAN, DEVELOP IT. I GOT TO REDO THAT ONE.

. SO WE NEED TO BETTER -- WHEN WE GOT OUT NEW FACILITY AT SO SOME.UNTIL THEN, I NEED THE X-RAY EQUIPMENT FOR THE OFFICE AT THE PRESENT.

THE OTHER THING IS I CAN STILL -- ONCE I HAVE THIS BETTER EQUIPMENT, THERE WILL STILL BE CASES THAT I WILL FIND THAT ARE BETTER AT EXPRESSWAYS AND STILL USING THAT EVEN WITH A NEW OFFICE OR LOAD DOCK. BECAUSE SO I HAVE TO HAVING THE PORTABLE X-RAY ONE. DOING THE WHOLE SCAN ALL OVER THE AGAIN AND TAKEN A WHOLE LOT MEMORY AND WE DO PAY FOR DATA

STORAGE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: EXCUSE ME, DOC. DIDN'T YOU JUST GET A BRAND-NEW ONE TWO MONTHS AGO? I THOUGHT YOUR STAFF HAD REQUESTED A CERTAIN KIND OF X-RAY.

AND WE DID -- I THINK WE DID ORDER ONE.

>> IT HAS BEEN ORDERED? I KNOW WE REQUESTED --

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHERE ARE WE WITH THE X-RAY MACHINE.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS ORDERED FROM THE M.E.'S OFFICE, WITH DR.

FERNANDEZ. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T THINK

IT HAS BEEN ORDERED YET. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NO?

>> WE ARE LOOKING AT ACQUIRING T

THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: DR. FAGAN, WE WILL GET BACK TO YOU ON THE X-RAY PIECE.

THE DESIRE IS THERE. THE INTENT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS BEEN ORDERED BUT WE CAN WORK WITH OUT THAN ITEM. IF YOU DON'T MIND.

>> FINISHING FOR THE REST -- BECAUSE I REALIZE IT IS 5:00.

WE ARE ASKING FOR SEVERAL NEW AUTOPSY CARTS AND TRAYS.

THE CURRENT ONE ARE AT THE END. THEY ARE ABOUT TO FALL APART.

NEW SYSTEM FOR BODY STORAGE. SAME THING.

THE CURRENT SYSTEM WILL FALL APART.

WE NEED TO GET A HYDRAULIC. PEOPLE WELL IN EXCESS OF 300 POUNDS. WE HAD ONE OVER THE WEEKENDS THAT WEIGHED OVER 600 POUNDS AND HAD TO CALL FIRE RESCUE BECAUSE

UNSAFE TO HANDLE THAT BODY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I HATE.

THIS IS MAKING ME ANGRY. DIDN'T WE ORDER ALL THIS STUFF.

WHAT HAPPENED WHEN WE AGREED IN COURT TO BUY ALL OF THIS

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EQUIPMENT. >> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE PURCHASE ORDERS AND GOING

THROUGH PURCHASING YET. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE NEED TO MOVE ON. WE SPENT AN HOUR ON THIS

PRESENTATION. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THREE

MONTHS AGO. >> THAT IS THE CONCLUSION.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WHEN IT COMES TO RESOURCES, THE INTENT IS TO MAKE SURE THE OFFICE HAS EVERYTHING IT NEEDS.

SO SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A HOLE IN COMMUN

COMMUNICATION. >>JUDGE CANALES: HAVING ALL OF THESE NEEDS AND THE GOOD WORK ON THE SALARY COMPENSATION PIECE THAT WE DID HAVE. I AM CERTAIN THERE IS GOING TO BE A MOTION. BUT FIRST A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING.

IT IS 5:03. WE HAVE POLICY THAT REQUIRES OF A MOTION. I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION THAT WE

GO TO 5:30 AND RE-EVALUATE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, I

WOULD LIKE TO GO TO 6:00. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DID 5:30 BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU LE

LEAVE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL TAKE 6:00. A MOTION AND A SECOND.

THERE IS NO CHOICE, RIGHT, CONNIE? NO CHOICE. THANK YOU, CONNIE.

YOU ARE VERY, VERY. IN THIS VAIN.

THIS IS HOW I SEE IT. CERTAIN THINGS THAT RISE TO HIGH PRIORITY. THE TRUST IS ONE OF THE REASONS I VOTED FOR. A ALL YEAR LONG TO GET PHASED SALARY INCREASES. SO MUCH MORE WORK TO DO IN SO MANY DEPARTMENTS AND YOU ILLUSTRATED HOW YOUR DEPARTMENT IS ONE OF THEM. I SEE PRIORITIES FOR YOU.

AND ONE OF THEM IS THE AUTOPSY TECH.

AND THE SECOND IS THE -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WOMEN.

YUJZ JUDGE WE ALREADY RESOLVED AND A BUDGETARY RESOURCE FOUR ALL THE EQUIPMENT. I AM NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT DOES NOT HAVE FOR THE AUTOPSY TECH $40,000 AND I AM ROUNDING

OUT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: TWO

TEMP THAT ARE OVER. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WAS GOING TO

GET THERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE PRIORITIES I HAVE. THE AUTOPSY TECH.

CUMULATIVELY 104,000. I AM CALLING IT 52,000 TIMES TWO TO SECURE THE PREMISE. BUT THAT IS REALLY A MISHOME INNER TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE JUSTICE SYSTEM WORKS WITH THE EVIDENCE THAT WE LIE ON YOUR OFFICE TO DO.

AND UNFORTUNATELY IT HOOKS LIKE THERE IS A PRICE TAG TO ALL THINGS. AND SO, THEREFORE, IN ORDER TO CREATE THAT SURETY AND LIMIT, YOU KNOW, ANY CONCERN THAT MIGHT BE THERE, THAT IS WHAT SEEMS TO BE RECOMMENDATION FOR BEST PRACTICES. NOW I AM GOING TO CALL IT 150.

IT IS REALLY 40 AND 104. AND THE ONE THING THAT COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ JUST MENTIONED IS -- CAN I HAVE THAT SLIDE BACK. I DON'T RECALL WHAT THE TEMPORARY -- SORRY, YEAH, THE TEMPORARY-TO-PART-TIME COST TO BE TO FULFILL THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION RULES.

>> AND THE SLIDE FROM THE -- FROM THE OPERATION OF THE LAST TIME. THREE INVESTIGATORS.

IF YOU TAKE THE INVESTIGATORS AT THE CURRENT SALARY OF THE CURRENT INVESTIGATORS AND GO PART-TIME AND DO THAT WITH

BENEFITS, ROUGHLY ABOUT $70,000. >>JUDGE CANALES: ADDITIONAL.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUST ASKING.

>> TEMPORARY TO PART-TIME. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: TEMPORARY TO PART-TIME IS HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL $70,000.

>>JUDGE CANALES: CUMULATIVE. MY MOTION IN THE INTEREST OF TIME IS THAT THE FOLLOWING ITEMS BEING INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. MY MOTION IS TO INCLUDE THE AUTOPSY TECHNICIAN AT THE PROPOSED RATE.

IF YOU BRING THE SLIDE UP I WILL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THE NUMBER

IS -- IN FACT, LET ME DO THAT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CAN WE

SEPARATE THAT OUT? >>JUDGE CANALES: WE CAN.

I AM HAPPY TO -- IF THAT IS OKAY.

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IF IT MEANS YOU VOTING YES ON SOMETHING, I AM GOING TO DO IT.

$40,000 IS REALLY $39,388 THAT IS PROPOSED.

MY ONLY QUESTION TO YOU IT, DR. FAGAN, DID YOU WORK WITH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THEY COMFORT WITH THE PAY SCALE

THAT WE HAVE? >> YOUR HONOR, ONE AUTOPSY TECH

AT THE CURRENT REAL IS $41,000. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DO NEED TO CALL IT BY A NUMBER. PAY GROUP.

>> PAY GROUP 16. >>JUDGE CANALES: AIL CALL PAY GROUP 16 AUTOPSY TECH AT A COST OF APPROXIMATELY $40,000.

>> $41,000. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: A NEW

POSITION? >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, A NEW POSITION. THE AUTOPSY TECH CHRISTIAN.

IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: SECOND.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NO. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IF I WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT I WILL PUT MY WHOLE MOTION TOGETHER. I WILL TELL YOU WE ARE WASTING

TIME HERE. >> I AM SORRY.

I DIDN'T HEAR -- WAS THAT A YES OR A NO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IT WAS A NO. AGAIN, WE HAVE SAVINGS ALREADY

OF $110,000 IN THIS BUDGET. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YEAH, BUT JUDGE, PART OF SAVINGS WE NEED TO ALLOCATE TO OTHER THINGS. AND THE OTHER THINGS IS THESE INCREASED FEES WERE SUPPOSED TO OFFSET THE ALREADY HUGE BUDGET INCREASE. ALL THESE NEW FEES WILL OFFSET THE FACT WE INCREASED THAT BUDGET BY $700,000 BEFORE WE EVEN CAME IN HERE TODAY. THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TOWARD TH THAT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I KNOW THEY ARE ADDITIONAL.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THE ONE TO SUPPORT.

THE CIVIL SERVICE IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO AND THE

DIFFERENCE. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: CAN I AMEND. I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND BUT HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT. I WILL USE THE DIFFERENCE WITH MY ARPA FUNDING WITH THIS. I FEEL THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT.

EVERYTHING THAT -- YOU ARE AN INVESTMENT WE MADE INTO YOU.

AND YOUR SALARY AND YOUR EXPERIENCE AND BRINGING YOU, TRANSPORTING YOU FROM AUSTIN TO HERE.

I DON'T SEE ANY OF THIS AS BEING FRIVOLOUS AS BEING ANYTHING BUT -- A STANDARD OF WHAT SHOULD BE ACCEPTABLE.

OR EXCEEDING THAT. TO PICK AND CHOOSE.

THE THE NUMBERS ARE VERY TIGHT AND WE NEED TO MAKE TOUGH CHOICES. I WOULD RATHER USE SOME OF MY ARPA FUNDING AT LEAST THROUGH THIS YEAR TO GET US THROUGH THE FIRST YEAR. I BELIEVE THAT WITH FULL STAFF AND GETTING YOU FACILITY WE HAVE COMMITTED TO YOU IS GOING TO DO WONDERS FOR US. AND TO GIVE YOU PART OF WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR. YOU ARE NOT ASKING FOR A LAMBORGHINI OR ANYTHING. YOU ARE ASKING FOR BASIC -- BASIC EQUIPMENT OR STAFFING. IF MY ARPA FUNDING CAN BE USED FOR THAT, IF IT QUALIFIES FOR THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO USE SOME OF MY ARPA FUNDING TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE IN WHATEVER THE

COMMISSIONERS -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JOHN, WHAT WE AGREED TO DO -- WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT DOING IS NOT ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL POSITIONS UNDER ARPA AND ONLY CONTINUING TO FUND THE ARPA, BECAUSE ONCE THE ARPA -- THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I GET YOU, BUT THAT CAN BE A DECISION -- I GET THIS SOME TEMPORARY. EVERYTHING WE COMMITTED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT IS ONLY TEMPORARY, BUT TO GIVE DR. FAGAN -- IT IS LIKE LIGHTNING. WE LOVE YOU.

WE ARE PAYING YOU A TON OF MONEY WHICH PEOPLE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, WHICH I DON'T BECAUSE YOU DO A VERY DIFFICULT JOB.

FOR ME PERSONALLY, I AM GOING TO READ AN OBITUARY OF A NOW 18-YEAR-OLD WHO WAS 17-YEAR-OLD THAT WENT INTO YOUR OFFICE ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO. HEALTHY YOUNG 17-YEAR-OLD NINE DAY BUFFERS HIS BIRTHDAY. BEFORE HIS 18TH BIRTHDAY.

AND HE PASSED AWAY FROM HEAT STROKE.

AND YOU TALKED ABOUT -- IN YOUR INTERVIEW, THAT YOU WANTED TO BRING DIGNITY AND CLOSURE TO FAMILY.

THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE WITH THESE INVESTMENTS. THESE ARE NOT FRIVOLOUS STUFF, SO WHATEVER IT TAKES, YOU HAVE IT.

YOU ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING OUT OF ORDINARY.

GET IT IS TEMPORARY, BUT I -- I AM NOT GOING TO LET YOU LEAVE HERE TODAY WITH WHAT YOU NEED. BECAUSE I KNOW YOU PUT A LOT OF CONSIDERATION INTO IT. I KNOW YOU ARE LOOKING FOR BEST STANDARDS. THAT IS WHY WE HIRED YOU.

THAT IS WHY WE NEED YOU HERE. BECAUSE WE ARE IN IS A RUT.

IF WE DON'T -- LET'S BE REALISTIC.

IF WE DON'T MAKE YOU HAPPY, YOU CAN VERY WELL EASILY LEAVE TO GREENER PASTURES. I DON'T DOUBT THAT AT ALL.

SO THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN IS TO GIVE YOU WHAT YOU NEED. AND I AM -- SO, THAT'S -- THAT

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IS MY -- IF WE DON'T -- COMMISSIONER, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO INCLUDE AN AMENDMENT, I WILL MAKE AN ADDITIONAL MOTION AND I FEEL STRONGLY YOU SUPPORT THE CIVIL SERVICE PART.

I AGREE WITH YOU. GIVE SOMETHING WE CAN ALL FIND CONSENSUS ON AND THE ADDITIONAL PART FUND WITH THE ARPA KNOWING THAT IT IS ONLY TEMPORARY AND US MOVING ALONG AND IF IT PROVES WITHIN A YEAR OR TWO IT IS NOT WHAT YOU NEEDED.

IT IS TOO MUCH. YOU GOT PEOPLE HANGING AROUND.

TOO MUCH TIME ON THEIR HANDS, THEN WE PULL IT BACK.

BUT WE GOT TO GIVE YOU EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN AS SOON AS YOU CAN. WE WILL GET THAT BUILDING FACILITY AS FIXED UP YOU AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND IN STAFF AND EQUIPMENT. THAT IS OUR AMENDMENT FROM IT IS

ACCEPTED, COMMISSIONER. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM GOING TO SEPARATE IT, COMMISSIONER MAREZ AND HE WANTS TO SEPARATE IT.

OP THE FIRST PIECE TO CLARIFY. MOVING THE PRACTICE TEMPORARY -- THE INVESTIGATORS CURRENTLY ON TEMPORARY STATUS TO PART-TIME

STATUS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT WILL BE MY MOTION. AND A SECOND BY GONZALEZ.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THE SECOND MOTION ON THE TABLE IS TO ALLOW FOR THE -- PLEASE HELP ME, COMMISSIONER MAREZ. WILL BE ALL THREE.

THE ONE SENIOR. I WILL CALL IT AUTOPSY TECH.

THAT BE FUNDED BY COMMISSIONER MAREZ'S ARPA.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: DOES THAT QUALIFY.

>> A CLAUSE IN THE ARPA AGREEMENT THAT THE COUNTY CAN HIRE ADDITIONAL STAFF UP TO 85 EMPLOYEES.

AND WE ONLY HAVE 15 NOW. SO IT DOES QUALIFY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OF COURSE IT IS PUBLIC HEALTH SECTOR.

EVEN MORE SO. AND I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION AND THEY SAY SOMETIMES ONE WORD SUFFICES -- WITH GRATITUDE, WITH GRATITUDE. BY DO BELIEVE NO AMOUNT OF BRICK AND MORTAR IS GOING TO CHANGE MORE THAN THE PEOPLE YOU BRING IN THERE. YOU CAN MAKE THE BUILDING PRETTIER BUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE FOR THE DIGNITY AND LOSS OF LIFE AS WELL THE DIFFERENT IN GETTING THE ACCREDITATION AND GETTING THE GOOD THINGS YOU WANT ESTABLISHED FOR THE FORENSIC INSTITUTE. THAT A MOTION.

I HAVE GOT A SECOND. >> AND THE MOTION INCLUDES THE

POSITIONS? >>JUDGE CANALES: OF COURSE IT WILL. IF YOU BRING IT BACK UP.

IT IS NICE TO LOOK AT THEM. >> INVESTIGATORS AT A PAY GRADE

20. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

WAY IT WORKS TOWARD THE JOB TITLE MISS SANDS.

AUTOPSY TECHNICIAN PAY GRADE -- >> PAY GRADE 16.

>> YOU DID THAT EARLIER. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE DIDN'T DO IT. WE WOUNDS UP STOPPING OUT OF COURTESY TO SPLIT IT UP. ALSO THE INVESTIGATORS.

THEY WOULD BE -- DALE PAY GROUP. >> PAY GROUP 20.

>>JUDGE CANALES: AND TWO OF IT THEM.

THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT, KARA IS A LITTLE UNDER.

>> $200,000 WITH BENEFITS. >> ABOUT -- YEAH, THE INVESTIGATE IS ABOUT 110, 120,000.

AND AUTOPSY ABOUT # #. TALK IT 161.

>>JUDGE CANALES: AS A CUMULATIVE EFFECT.

I WANT TO HAVE A VOTE AND HAVE COMMENTS ON YOUR OTHER PROPOSAL.

ALL TO HE WAS IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. YOU GOT THAT PASSED, DR. FAGAN.

WE WILL ADDRESS THAT AND HAVE TO MOVE ON TO ANOTHER SUBJECT

MATTER. >> FUND WITH ARPA DOLLARS?

>>JUDGE CANALES: ARPA DOLLARS, COMMISSIONER MAREZ.

YOUR SALARY COMPENSATION IS GREAT.

A GREAT TOOL. FOR NUECES COUNTY, ALL FIVE OF US WANT TO TAKE A PHASED AID APPROACH.

THE 6% COLA THAT WE HAD EARLIER --

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT DIDN'T PASS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: HE SAID YES. >> SAID NO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: SO I WANT TO YOU KNOW THAT OUR -- WE MAY -- I KNOW IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT, BUT TODAY.

TO KEEP IT HANDY SO THAT NEXT YEAR, WE MAKE THE MOVE FORWARD MEDIUM SALARIES. NOT JUST FOR YOU ARE IN DEPARTMENT, ALL APARTMENTS. I DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL THAT -- THAT WAS INCREDIBLY VALUABLE. WE ARE NOT -- THE BEST WE CAN DO TODAY IS THAT 60%. TOMORROW, WE LOOK FORWARD TO GET CAN TO THE END RANGES. AND SOME YOU SAID DID MEET IT

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REAL CLOSE. BUT AT LEAST YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES TO BUILD WHAT WE BROUGHT FOR TO YOU BUILD.

WE WILL MOVE TO SCOTT CROSS. WHO IS ABOUT -- PACING OVER THERE. PACING.

SCOTT. >> YEAH.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WHERE SHOULD WE.

>> I WILL BE QUICK. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS RIGHT.

>> I RESPECT YOUR TIME. I KNOW YOU RESPECT MEAN.

START WITH PAGE 165 OF THE BUDGET.

AND THE.

THERE IS A TRANSFER OUT IN THERE THAT TOTALS $416,880.

AND I DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT THAT IS.

I CERTAINLY DON'T RECALL THAT BEING THE AMOUNT OF CASH FOR THE

TRI-COUNTY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: HE WAS

GOING TO ASK YOU THE SAME THING. >> I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT IS.

>> FOR OUR TRI-COUNTY GRANT AWARD.

THAT WAS THE BALANCE WAS PUT IN CAME FROM GRANTS ADMINISTRATION.

>> DID JIM NUECES WELLS AND CLAYBURG FORGET TO HAVE THEIR

CASH MATCHED. >> WE GOT THEIR CASH MATCHED.

>>JUDGE CANALES: HANG ON. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET ON

THE MIC. >> THE OTHER ONE DEED SO IT IS BEING USED. YOU CAN SHARE THAT.

>> I ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO SEE THAT WE GOT A $50,000 CASH MATCH FROM -- OH, GOSH, CLAYBURG. FROM CLAYBURG CAYMAN FOR THE

TRI-COUNTY. >>JUDGE CANALES: ONE FROM JIM

WELLS COMING IN. >> YES, BUT $50,000 CASH MATCH.

>> SCOTT, A TRANSFER OUT OF YOUR APARTMENT?

>> OUT OF 1307. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK IT WAS DISCUSSEDED IN COURT. I THOUGHT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT

BUT MAYBE NOT REMEMBERING. >> THAT IS HUGE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T THINK WE EVER AUTHORIZED GO MESA.

BUT WE SAID THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGED A MATCH.

>> I DID AGREE TO COVER SUSAN ROTH'S CONTRACT WITH GO MESA.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. I MADE THE COMMENT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: GOES FORWARD THE MATCH.

>> I MADE THE COMMENT THAT -- TERESA BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTENTION AND I WASN'T EXPECT IT.

SENDING AN E-MAIL IF THIS HELPS THE GOOFED THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM DOING IT.

I DON'T LIKE WORKING IN PRECINCT LINES BUT JUST LET ME KNOW BECAUSE I AM TRYING TO GET PROJECTS DONE.

QUALIFYING PROJECTS, BUT THE KEY THINGS ABOUT THE GO MESA MONEY IS I DON'T HAVE A CIP PLAN. I WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE COUNTY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

IN ORDER FOR ME TO GET GOOD CAPITAL PROJECTS, AND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. LISA KNOWS THIS.

I SPENT MONTHS AND MONTHS OF TWO CFR B, C, AND D.

COMPLETELY 100% ON THE GO MESA FUNDS.

ANYHOW, I AM JUST SHOCKED BY THAT AMOUNT.

I AM LIKE, WHOA. ANY

ANYHOW. >> THERE IS A TRANSFER FROM 1307 GO MESA TREE COUNTY IN THE CASH MATCH $416,880.

PROVIDED WHAT WE HAVE FOR THAT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T REMEMBER. I REMEMBER SOMETHING COMING UP ON GO MESA. I AM JUST NOT REMEMBERING.

>> LET'S LOOK INTO THAT PLEASE. BECAUSE THAT IS A BIG SHIFT.

THAT IS A BIG HIT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: DOES IT SHOW WHERE YOU GOT ORIGINATED IN THE SYSTEM.

WITH THE TRANSFER AND CAME FROM GRANTS.

WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE GRANTS.

>> I DON'T LIKE GRANTS AUGHT RISING ANYTHING THAT COME OUT OF

GO MESA EITHER. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T

THINK YOU CAN DO THAT. >> IT WENT TO COURT.

IF I REMEMBER -- IT WENT TO COURT.

>> CAN I REQUEST THAT WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT COMES UP, THAT WE AT LEAST BE NEGOTIATED WITH.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD A CONVERSATION -- I REMEMBER USING NUECES GO MESA --

>> SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT ME ON THE LOOP ON THIS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ALL I CAN SAY IS WE WILL GET SOME INFORMATION

ABOUT THAT. >> BECAUSE I HAVE GOT TO GET THESE PROJECTS DONE. LAST TIME WHEN WE TOOK MORE THAN ONE I EXPECTED FROM THE 219 ALLOTMENT.

STOPS AND PROJECTS I CAN'T GET A PROJECT LIST.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK WE DID, JUDGE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE CAN ASK GRANTS.

THE ENTITY AND BRING IT BACK ON THE 14TH TO DISCUSS IT.

OBVIOUSLY BUDGETS ARE LIVING, BREATHING DOCUMENTS AND HELP

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FIND OTHER SOURCES TO REPLENISH IF THAT IS A NEED LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN TAMPA TERESA SAID A BUNCH. TO MAKE ADJUSTMENT TO OFFSET HALF OF THE GO MESA TRANSFER LIKE 200,000 TO GO TO COASTAL PARKS IN THE NEW FISCAL YEAR TO DO YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. THERE ARE WAY THAT IT CAN BE REPLENISHED. WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION RIGHT THIS MINUTE BUT REALLY GLAD BROUGHT TO THAT TO THE

ATTENTION. >> COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE.

ALL OF YOU HEAR THIS. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.

THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAD IN HERE IS THAT IT GOT BACK UP AT ONE OF THE BUDGET HEARINGS. AND LISA CALLED ME.

I GOT ONLINE AND WHEN I WAS GOING TO GO ANSWER IT, YOU PASSED OVER AND WHY WAS I REQUESTED TO MOVE THE NATURAL RESOURCE MANAGER MEGAN BACK TO 180.

THE REASON WHY WAS ALREADY HIRED AS A FTE AS A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE NOT AS A GRANT FUNDED PERSON. WORKING WITH THE JUDGE AND TERESA AND DALE -- DALE HELPED ME A LOT LAST YEAR WITH THIS POSITION. I AGREED TO MOVE IT OVER TO GO MESA AND I WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING A STUFF BUDGET YEAR AND I THOUGHT YOU WERE UNDER GOING A TOUGH BUDGET.

LET ME DO MY PART. AND I REQUESTED TO MOVE IT BACK TO 180. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY WAS, WAS A FTE. I GO ET IT.

I HATE TO USE THOSE FUNDS AND CONTINUOUSLY PLAY A SALARY WHEN I WAS PROJECTS THAT I NEED TO DO, BUT I WAS TRYING TO BE HELPFUL. I DID NOT THIS WAS GOING TO BE AN ONGOING THING. I DON'T THINK I HAVE LONGEVITY WITH SOMEBODY FROM A MASTER'S DEGREE LEFT AND THAT POSITION IS EXTREMELY STRAW TJ IKE TO NOT ONLY COASTAL PARKS BUT TERMINATE CAN PROCESS THAT FINALLY GOT CLEANED UP WHICH IS A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT AND BEACH MANAGEMENTS PLAN.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHY IT WASN'T CONSIDERED.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE DO. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE DO?

>>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, WE BROUGHT THAT UP.

MEGAN -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MEGAN

AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: AS TO MEGAN, IT

WAS DISCUSSED HERE NO COURT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT ONE

WAS. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOUR FEELING

WAS GO MESA -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT WAS A 5-0 FOR MEGAN. WAS SHE ARPA OR GO MESA.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NO, NO, MEGAN'S SALARY.

WHAT SHE DOES IS VERY MUCH GO MESA.

>> HIRED AS A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE.

FULL-TIME BUDGETED POSITION. I JUST MOVED IT OVER THERE

BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE HELPFUL. >>JUDGE CANALES: IN TO ASSIST IN ONE YEAR'S BUDGET CYCLE. I DIDN'T.

WE FIT FROM IT. I DIDN'T GET ANYTHING OUT OF IT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: YOU WILL I CAN HEAR WHAT YOUR REQUEST IS.

>> MY IS TO MOVE IT BACK. BUT IF I CAN'T MOVE IT BACK, THE GUARANTEE I WILL HAVE IT NEXT YEAR.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: GO BACK TO THE MEGAN THING.

I AM NOT GOING TO GUARANTEE ANYTHING.

THE MEGAN THINGS IS, YOU GET A PERPETUAL RESOURCE FROM GO MESA.

EVERY YEAR YOU GET MONEY. SO THE LOGIC THERE WAS -- IF YOU WEREN'T THERE OR DIDN'T KNOW. IT WAS ON A THE AGENDA.

AND THE LOGIC WAS SHE ALWAYS WILL DO STUFF TO QUALIFY FORGO MESA. OTHER THAN THE MONEY GOES AWAY.

I DON'T KNOW THE HARM OF KEEPING HER ON GO MESA AND KEEP IT EACH YEAR AS WE DO EVERYTHING ELSE. WHAT SHE DOES IS VERY MUCH DEFINITION OF WHAT GO MESA IS ALL ABOUT I DON'T AGREE.

IT WAS CREATED AS A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE POSITION.

OUT IT WAS ORIGINALLY CREATE. WAY WE LOOK AT IT.

WE DON'T KNOW THAT GO MESA IS A FINANCIAL SOURCE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HOW MANY YEARS, TEN IN A ROW.

>> FIVE YEARS IN A ROW. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: OBVIOUSLY IF THAT GOES AWAY. I AM HAPPY TO LOOK AT IT.

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I THINK IT FITS NUECES GO MESA. SELL THAT IS WHAT SHE IS DOING.

AND FOR. I NEED A $416,000.

>> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY:THAT IS DIFFERENT.

>> SEE THE HITS. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY:THAT IS

A GOOD QUESTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: HE CAN RERE-EVALUATE. WE NEED MORE INFO.

THE GRANT HAS MOTOROLA BOTH -- WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR MATCH AND ALSO WE HAVE IN-KIND CONTRIBUTIONS THAT ARE BASICALLY OFFSET TO OUR MAPS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS NUMBER REPRESENTS ITS 25% TO OUR PRO ATTA SHARE OR NOT.

I CAN'T TELL. THE GRANT IS 2-4, #-6.

>> I GUESS I MADE A MISTAKE WHEN I SAID I WILL BE HELPFUL.

I SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT THE BAYS AND ESTUARY BECAUSE A LARGE

AMOUNT A 25% CASH MATCH. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: ARPA

WOULD COVER THOSE THINGS. >> NO.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: FOR DRAINAGE STUDY.

>> THAT PARTICULAR THING, I DON'T BELIEVE IT WOULD.

THIS IS A CASH MATCH FOR ANOTHER FEDERAL GRANT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: LET US WORK ON IT.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: LOOK AT THAT GRANT.

IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT. >> I SEE YOUR POSITION ON THE NATURAL RESOURCES MANAGER POSITION.

I MESSED UP. I SHOULDN'T AGREE TO DO THAT.

I WANTED TO BE HELPFUL. WE NEED TO RE-EVALUATE IT.

WE REALLY NEED TO DO. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT IS WORTHY OF DISCUSSION AND I NEED TO BRING IT BACK AND DO A TRANSFER.

FIRST OF ALL, GO MESA IS MEANT FOR PROJECT.

CAN'T BELIEVE THAT STAFF CAN'T BE UTILIZED FOR THE PROJECTS, BUT IF WE NEED TO PROBABLE ACTIVE.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE NOT CLAW BACKS.

IF YOU HIRE FTE FOR OTHER PURPOSES HIKE DUNE PROTECTION.

>> THAT WAS ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS WE HIRED HER.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE SHOULD BE PAYING FOR THAT.

:GO MESA. THE FEDS MAY NOT LOOK KINDLY ON THAT IF SHE IS NOT ACTUALLY DOING GO MESA PROJECTS.

I AGREE WITH YOU BUT I AM AFRAID THAT TODAY MAY NOT BE THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE, I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU, THE -- I WILL GET THAT THROUGH GO MESA, AND WITHOUT THREE VOTES, WE CAN'T GET THROUGH. SO I -- WE DID -- WE DID ACQUIESCE ON THAT. BUT THERE IS NO DOUBT IF THERE IS A BETTER FUNDING SOURCE FOR THE FUTURE SHE IS AN FTE AND FWAR RAN TEED BECAUSE GO MESA IS NOT GUARANTEED.

>> RECRUITING HER AS A FTE. >> HER ALLOTMENT CHANGES.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: ALL THESE TO KEEP ON FOR ANOTHER YEAR. ARPA, GO MESA.

FELL INTO A CATEGORY THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THE ONES KEEP GOING ONE MORE YEAR WITH THE WAY PEOPLE ARE FUNDED.

IT WASN'T JUST THIS ONE. >> IF I MISSED.I AM SORRY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OF COURSE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE 6% COVERS HER TOO. I THINK I SAW IT IN THERE DALE.

I SAID THIS REPEATEDLY YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.

I WANT Y'ALL TO ENGAGE WITH ME AND ASK ME IF YOU SEE ANY QUESTIONS. AND I RARELY GET ANY QUESTIONS.

RARELY. I WANT YOUR CRITICISM.

I NEED IT. ANYHOW.

SO WE WILL GO ON FLORIDA THERE. I WILL DO SEE WHERE DALE -- JUST SO THE COURT KNOWS, AN ADDITIONAL 14% IN FUEL COST

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WHICH I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO NEED.

ON AVERAGE SOME 18, 19. SOME A LITTLE MORE.

SOME A LITTLE LESS. THAT IS GOOD.

WHERE I HAD A QUESTION WAS ON -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AHI JANITORIAL SERVICES BEING FUNDED.

THE BUDGET AS REPORTED. AND MICHAEL'S ITEM THAT THOSE MONIES GET MOVED OVER TO MOVE ON TO WHATEVER DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO LIVE IN TO PROCESS THOSE PAYMENTS APPROPRIATELY.

I MENTIONED IT. NOBODY KIND OF RESPONDED.

I WANTED TO MENTION AGAIN THAT I DO THAT BECAUSE WHEN I HAD ABM, THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN AND I REQUESTED VIA ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. CAME OUT OF MY REPAIRS BUILDING AND GROUNDS. THAT REALLY HURT ME COME THIS YEAR. BECAUSE ALL MY FACII FACILITIES OF PADRE AND MAG GESHGSE. ALL MY FACILITIES ARE OLD AND THEY NEED UPKEEP. THE CHANNEL NATURE PARK ROAD.

MY GOSH. I GOT PAVING ISSUES ALL OVER THE PLACE. I PUT THOSE IN MY BUDGET PROPOSAL, BUT THEY ARE MORE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND

NOT CAPITAL OUTLAY. >> I THINK ON THAT -- I THINK WHAT WE NEED IS -- THE REASON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IS SMART BECAUSE IT TAKES ALL OF YOUR ISSUES AND ASSIGNS THEM AWAY -- A WAY TO CREATE FUNDING. ON YOUR PACK CHANNEL ROAD YOU CAN ASSIGN THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FUTURE ROAD DISTRICT FUND.

AND ASSIGNED TO, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL REVENUE OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. WITHOUT THAT ROAD -- ROAD MAP, YOU REALLY -- NO PUN INTENDED THERE.

YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO BE FUNDED SO IT DOES MAKE YOU WORRY WHEN YOU SEE $400,000 EVAPORATE.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU THERE ARE WAYS TO OFFSET THAT.

IF WE WILL WORK TOGETHER. NEXT COURT, I CAN ALREADY TELL YOU THAT -- I HAVE ALREADY START OF TWO WAYS WHERE WE CAN AT LEAST ASSIST SOMEWHAT SO YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE GO MESA HAS BEEN

COMPLETELY EVAPORATED. >> WHAT THE JUDGE IS TALKING ABOUT. WE LOOKED AT -- COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HAS BEEN SUPPORTED OF IT VERBALLY DOING A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR COASTAL PARKS WHERE I LOOKED AT A FIRM AND DID A PROPOSAL FOR THREE THINGS.

WILL GIVE ME A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, UPDATE MY COASTAL PARKS MASTER PLAN. AND OUT OF DAY ANYHOW AND THEY WILL DO COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS SO THAT ALL THE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW WHICH ONES WILL GIVE YOU A BETTER RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

ANYHOW. THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAD WAS ON THE -- THEY SHORTED ME ABOUT $5500 ON REQUESTS I MADE.

THE REQUEST I DID, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO RUN A P.M. SHIFT ALL YEAR ROUND. AND WE LIKE TO CLEAN THE REST ROOMS AND LIKE TO LOCK THEM UP. IF I DON'T AND LEAVE THEM ONLY.

I GOT DRUGGIES IN THERE, VANDALISM, PEOPLE SLEEPING IN THERE. HOMELESS PEOPLE.

SO THE EXTRA MONEY FOR THE SKITTLE CANS HELP ME WHEN I CLOSE THEM UP IN THE WINTER AND EARLIER THAN THE SUMMER, THEY ARE CLEAN AND READY TO GO. NOW THE AHI CONTRACT IS REALLY HELPING ME. BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF THIS SUMMER AND I AM SURPRISED COMMISSIONER CHESNEY DIDN'T CALL ME AND COMPLAIN, BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE TO LOCK THOSE BEACH SIDE RESTAURANTS UP BETWEEN 4 AND 5:00 AND DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH FOR APM.

THIS IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING OVER THERE.

I'M STILL DOWN 3 VEHICLES THAT WE ORDERED THAT WERE APPROVED LAST YEAR THAT HAVE NOT COME IN.

I REQUESTED TOMORROW. GOING INTO THIS NEXT BUDGET YEAR DOWN 5. IT'S NOT ANYBODY'S FAULT IT'S A SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUE. I DON'T HAVE FLEET VEHICLES.

MAKE IT WHEN SHE WAS OUT SHE DOES SITE VISITS SHE SHOULD BE AN APPEAL BEING. SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FILE MILEAGE. SAME WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.

>> AMICO TO THE PORTA POTTY, THE $5500 REQUEST.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE INCLUDE THAT BECAUSE IT'S

HEALTH AND SAFETY. >> SECOND.

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>> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I APPEARED THEN COME UP FOR DEBATE SCOTT SECOND PIECE

WAS ON MILEAGE? >> TRAVEL.

ADDITIONAL BUNNY, 10K FOR ADDITIONAL TRAVEL.

IS NOT FOR ME IS JUST A OFFSET OFFICIAL COUNTY BUSINESS.

ONCE I GET TO WORK NOT GOING TO WORK.

>> IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT? DON'T THEY HAVE THAT, GUYS? NO? SO IS THE ISSUE THAT THE PROXIMITY BETWEEN IP MICKEY, THE DISTANCE BETWEEN BACK-AND-FORTH?

>> SAT MILES. YOUNG.

>> IS AT THE JUSTIFICATION? >> Y'ALL DON'T HAVE ANY FLEET VEHICLE THEY CAN USE. THIS IS A STOPGAP?> IS IS ONE TIME THING BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE VEHICLES?

>> EFFORTS HOW TO GET MY FLEET BUILT BACK UP.

THEN I WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A REQUEST TRADITION OF THE FLEET FIX THIS PROBLEM JUDGE, TO WANT TO SPLIT IT ON A ONE-TIME BASIS? I DO 5 AND YOU DO 5.

>> BUSTER WAS 4000, NUMBER 14. WE ARE DECREASED AS BUDGET BY

2000? >> DO YOU RECOGNIZE THAT?

>> I DID A CALCULATED AMOUNT OF TIME HAVE TO ROTATE UPWARD THROUGH IP MICKEY FROM PADRE FOR A AM AND P.M. SHIFT.

THEN THE PUNCHING IN AND OUT FROM PADRE VINE.

MULTIPLY THAT BY 7 DAYS A WEEK FROM ADM UNTIL 10:30.

THOSE OF THE HOURS WE WORK. AND RENT THAT YEAR-ROUND HONEST

REALITIES. >> LET'S SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT. I WILL DO SOME LATER IF WE NEED TO SUPPLEMENT YOU. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

A BE GETTING THESE CARS WOULD BE BETTER.

>> THAT WOULD BE THE SIMPLEST THING TO DO.

WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THEM. >> I GET IT.

THE CARS COMMITMENT WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.

I THINK WERE GONNA GET 55 THIS YEAR.

>> BOTH LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS FOR NOW.

LET'S SEE IF THE FLEETS COMMITTED AND SUPREME ARE MIDYEAR. IF YOU NEED MORE I'LL GIVE YOU HALF OF IT RIGHT NOW. ON A ONE-TIME BASIS.

IT'S A ONE-TIME THING. UNTIL WE CAN GET THE FLEETS

BACK UP. >> SO WE CAN KEEP THE STATUS

QUO. >> IF THERE'S A POLICY CHANGE OR HAVING THERE. FOR INSTANCE.

THE TALK ASSESSES COLLECTOR HAS A SATELLITE OFFICE SUPPORT 8.

WE DON'T PAY FOR THEM EMPLOYEE TO COME TO THE COURTHOUSE THE DRUG TO THE COURTHOUSE TO COURT A. WE DON'T PAY FOR ANYBODY ELSE TO COME TO ONE CENTRAL LOCATION AND THEN PETER MILEAGE FROM THAT CENTRAL LOCATION TO THE PLACE THEY'RE GOING TO WORK. IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, THAT'S A POLICY CHANGE. FOR HIM EXPECT TO DO IT FOR PUBLIC WORKS, TAX OFFICE, THERE'S LOTS OF INLAND PARKS THEY COULD ALL COME HERE TO THE COURTHOUSE AND GET ASSIGNED OUT TO THE INLAND PARKS. YOU COULD HAVE EACH LIBRARY COME TO THE COURTHOUSE FOR THE LIBRARY TO GET ASSIGNED OUT TO

ROB'S TOWN TO BISHOP. >> I WOULD LEAVE IT ALONE AND LOOK AT MIDYEAR. LET'S NOT DO ANYTHING NOW AND LOOK AT ALL LATER. THAT'S A FAIR ASSESSMENT.

>> LEAST YOU START UP WHOLE. >> WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE INCREASE I CAN'T USE IT TO SUPPORT MEGAN AND THEM?

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? >> INCREASE TRAVEL WAS GIVEN FOR WHAT PURPOSE DALE? SO YOUR 4000 LAST YEAR.

EUROPE 14 THIS YEAR. THAT DON'T ATTEND IS FOR THIS

PURPOSE. >> WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS WITH IDA, SHE WAS TOLD IT WELCOME I WHICH IS TO APPEAL WHEN I SENT THEM TO BISHOP OR WHATEVER IN THE POV.

WHY AM I NOT BEEN DOING THAT ALL THESE YEARS? ANYHOW. I THINK IN THE END WOULD LOOK AT THE VEHICLE SITUATION, THAT THE CLEANEST AND EASIEST WAY TO DEAL WITH IT. THEY'RE GETTING A COUNTY VEHICLE GOING OVER THERE AND COMING BACK TO PADRE AND PARKING AND GOING HOME. OKAY.

ONLY OTHER THING IS IS THAT DAVE IS AWARE OF THIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF DALE IS AWARE OF IT.

I BROUGHT IT UP BUSTER THE YEAR BEFORE, I CAN'T REMEMBER.

BROUGHT UP WITH THE TERM. I'VE GOT MY ASSISTANT MANAGER RIGHT NOW THAT IS MY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

IT IS CLAIMING IT BROUGHT A BUNCH DOCUMENTS THAT SHE IS

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WRONGLY CLASSIFIED. SHE SET UP A GROUP THAT DOESN'T MATCH THE APPROVED PAPER FOR THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF THE

DEPARTMENT. >> WE CAN DO THAT TODAY.

DOES HR KNOW THE ANSWER? >> OKAY.

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. LET ME CUT IT SHORT.

I WANT SOME ANSWERS. I WANT NO FROM SOMEBODY.

>> HAVE A TALK TO HR? >> YES I HAVE.

IT'S HOW THEY RESPONDED? >> NO.

>> GET HER TO RESPOND, PLEASE I DAY.

>> I SUBMITTED MY DAY WHAT? A LONG TIME AGO.

>> HR HADN'T RESPONDED. GET IT BACK AND FIND OUT WHY

SHE HADN'T RESPONDED. >> THAT'S ALL.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE.

I APPRECIATE THE HELP YOU GIVE ME WITH THAT STUFF OVERALL.

>> WE WILL GET BACK TO YOU ON THE TRANSFER AND ALL THAT.

REMEMBER, THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO WORK THE BUDGET.

>> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. THE SMALL STEP INCREASES OR PAY GROUP INCREASES I ASKED FOR ONE SENIOR CLERK AND ONE SENIOR ACCOUNTANT. I THINK YOUR 6 PERCENT COLA ACTUALLY BENEFITS THEM BETTER THAN WHAT I WOULD'VE DONE FOR

THEM SO, >> SOME PEOPLE WILL COME OUT JUST EXACTLY WHERE WE WANTED THEM TO BE AND OTHERS WILL STILL NEED TO MAKE ANOTHER MOVE.

>> THE BULL AH I THINK. IF I HAD TO HIRE THE FTES TO DO JANITORIAL THAT WOULD'VE COST ME HUNDRED $20,000 PLUS.

THIS THING IS HALF THAT AMOUNT. >> AGAIN THAT'S NOT COMING OUT OF HIS BUDGET, CORRECT? FOR THE JANITORIAL? SOME OF IT? ASK IF THERE'S ACTIVITIES WE

WILL ALLOCATE IT. >> THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO

LOOK AT AGAIN. >> OKAY.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU SCOTT. AND ABOUT.

>> LIKELY NO RIGHT? >> YES SIR, YOU CAN.

WITH REGARDS TO BUDGET. JUST AS A RECAP WE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S BUDGET.

SOME BUDGET CHANGES TO THE COASTAL PARKS.

THE JUVENILE DEPARTMENT. AND THERE IS 3 SMALL ONES I HAD YOU LOOK AT DALE, ONE OF THEM IS NOT SMALL.

IT'S ACCOUNTING ATTORNEYS. WHICH OF THE COMPENSATIONS.

INSERTING THE BUDGET. CAN YOU MAKE SURE TO STATE THAT. JENNY YOUR FOLKS WILL NOT BE ON PAR WITH. YES MA'AM?

>> IT'S IN THE BUDGET. >> I WANT HER TO ACKNOWLEDGE

THAT. >> IS HER PAGE THAT OUTLINES?

>> I DON'T THINK WE'VE MENTIONED IT.

I WASN'T READY BUT I DON'T THINK ANYONE FOR ? ? THERE WAS

GOING TO BE A SUPPLEMENT. >> COMMISSIONERS HOSPITAL DISTRICT IS WILLING TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL AND A SUPPLEMENT, NOT AN ADDITIONAL ONE BUT A NEW SUPPLEMENT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THEY'VE TAKEN ON A LOT MORE WORK FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT IN THIS PAST YEAR.

EVERY ESTER CARRIES A LOT OF LOAN.

WE HAVE STUFF IN FRONT OF HER PRACTICALLY 7 DAYS A WEEK NOW.

>> ,STRONGLY DID YOU ALL APPROVE?

MOTION FOR EXPLOSION TO ACCEPT. >> WE NEED TO ACCEPT IT BUT WE WILL DO IT. I'LL TAKE IT.

>> IT'S IN THE BUDGET AS REIMBURSEMENT.

>> WERE TO GET THIS AS A REIMBURSEMENT.

MOTION TO ACCEPT REIMBURSEMENT. > JUDGE, IN MY MIND I ENVISION IT AS A SUPPLEMENT HOW THEY SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT OUR STAFF. IT WILL BE DONE ON A MECHANISM I THINK I'D LIKE YOUR STATE GRANT.

>> THAT WILL BE REFLECTED NOW, DALE ARE USING OUR PROPOSED BUDGET WE HAVE PROPERTY REFLECTS THAT?

>> YES. >> NOT THE SUPPLEMENT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WERE DOING. THAT'S THE ANNOUNCEMENTS SO TO SPEAK. OKAY.

THERE IS A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT 50,000 FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS. THERE IS A SECOND.

ON THE SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OTHER THAN GRATITUDE? THANK YOU.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING C9.

>> THE ADDITIONAL SHEET THAT'S BEEN PASSED OUT THIS IS AMENDED TEMS. RECLASSIFICATION FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS ONE ITEM THE ADDITIONAL SUPPLEMENT

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COMING FROM THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT IS TO WRITE? THEN I LOOK AT THE 6 PERCENT RIGHT? OKAY, NOW JENNY HOW DOES YOUR OFFICE LOOK?

>> THIS IS VERY HAPPY. OR VERY GRATEFUL BOTH TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT IN THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. >> ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S GOOD. THAT TAKES CARE OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. ON THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE, THERE WAS ONE PARTICULAR PERSON THAT WORKS OUR JURY SELECTION.

>> THAT WE WANTED TO EXTEND HER RIGHT?

>> I DON'T HAVE THAT ONE A FRENEMY.

A DALE. >> 2-1-1 IS THE ONE THAT STANDS

AT STANDS ALONE. >> IS TO EMPLOY LOY ME MANAGEMENT LATOR AND A PAY GROUP OF AND 52,004 PREDICTED

HIS CURRENT SALARY. >> WHAT WOULD BE THE STEP UP

THAT WAS REQUESTED? >> I DON'T THINK SHE DID.

>> I DON'T THINK SHE MADE A REQUEST.

IF WE GO TO PAPER 25. >> WASN'T AN EXTENSION?

>> THAT'S DIFFERENT. POSSIBLY DIFFERENT BOOKS WHAT

IS THE COST DIFFERENCE. >> 52,000 452, IF WE RECLASSIFY HER UP ONE POSITION SHE WILL GO FROM THAT TO.

>> MOTION PASSED JUDGE. >> THANK YOU, SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY C9.

NG I. OKAY.

IT ONLY AFFECTS ONE INDIVIDUAL ONE FROM JERRY.

>> THE RECLASSIFICATION. >> RIGHT EXPLOSION IS TO PASS TO RECLASSIFY THE PERSON DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE DOES

VOTER REGISTRATION. >> JURY.

>> CHOOSE INJURY MANAGEMENT CORRELATOR.

>> FROM WHAT TO WHAT DALE? >> WERE GOING FROM FIGURE 23 WHICH IS 52 452. AND GOING TO A PAY GROUP 24 IS A 57 366. AND PAY GROUP 24.

>> SINCE I'VE GOT MY LEDGER HERE CAN YOU TELL ME THE DELTA?

>> A LITTLE LESS THAN 4500. IF YOU HAVE THE BENEFITS CLOSE

TO 6000. >> OKAY.

OKAY. THEN ON TALES, I DON'T THINK WE DID ANY MOTION. WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT.

I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT HAS THE ABILITY, I DON'T REMEMBER THE STATUE.

LISA, YOU HAVE AT YOUR FOREST. >> THE SALARY WHERE THEY CAN'T EXCEEDED THE HIGHEST-PAID OFFICIAL IS THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AUTHORIZES THE INCREASE WITH THE:THAT THE COURT HAS APPROVED AND NOT TO EXCEED PAID OFFICIAL WHICH IS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AT THE MOMENT. HER SALARY IS ALSO RESTRICTED BY, I DON'T MEMBER THE GOVERNMENT GO FOR THAT.

IT'S A BASE SALARY OF A DISTRICT JUDGE.

WE BELIEVE SOME OF THE NUMBERS HAVEN'T BEEN ADDRESSED IN A WHILE. WE SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK INTO THIS WE KNOW THE DISTRICT JUDGES ALL GOT RAISES.

OUR RESELLERS ARE STILL AT THE LOW RATE.

TO BE ABLE TO EXCEED HER SALARY I NEED AUTHORIZATION.

>> MY MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THAT ADJUSTMENT IN THE AUDITORS

SALARY. >> WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?

>> 5600. 5600.

SORRY, 5009 85. KAY.

IS HER SECOND TO THAT TION? OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. OKAY, OPPOSE, SAME SIGN FINALLY, THE LAST ONE I HAVE IS FROM ESSO'S OFFICE.

THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I HAD ASKED, IT SEEMS LIKE THE WORLD OF INIQUITIES THAT WERE INMATE MANAGER COORDINATORS THAT HAVE NO SEPARATION ONCE WE MADE THE ADJUSTMENTS.

THIS IS ON BASE SALARY. THE 20 PERCENT IS STILL THERE

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BUT, ON THE BASE SALARY WE MAY HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS IF NOT TODAY, AT SOME POINT. IT'S 1943 AN HOUR FOR THE INMATE JUDGMENT COORDINATORS. AND THEN THERE ARE OTHERS THAT ARE AT A DIFFERENT PAY GROUP. THERE ARE 2190 AN HOUR.

THE ISSUE IS WE'VE GOTTEN TO WHERE OUR CADETS HAVE A SALARY

OF $20 AN HOUR. >> ARE THOSE THE COUNSELORS?

>> IT'S LIKE DOLLAR DIFFERENCE. I WAS CAN SUGGEST ONLY ONE PAY GROUP UP TO CREATE THAT SEPARATION.

>> THAT WAS ON MY LIST. I FORGOT IT.

>> IS DOLLAR AMOUNT ON THAT? >> WE WENT UP TO PAY GROUPS AT 11,000. IF YOU DRIVE 5 THAT INHABITS AROUND 6000. EXCEPT AS THE COUNSELOR.

THE MOTHER CAME AND VISITED US? >> FOR THE COORDINATOR IT WAS

ONLY 3. >> THAT THERE WAS FOR PARKS CURRENTLY THERE IS 3. IN THE CURRENT POSITION.

IT'S GONE FROM PAY GROUP 21 TO 23.

>> FOLLOWED THEM? >> IT'S 11,000 FOR ALL OF THEM.

>> THE TO PAY GROUPS? >> YES.

>> WE ARE WAY OVERDUE ON THEM. >> SENT 1998.

>> THIS IS FOR 3 EMPLOYEES. >> MOTION AND A SECOND FROM ME.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. AGAIN I'M NOT SECOND-GUESSING YOU. I DON'T KNOW WHY I HAD 4.

REASON RIGHT NUMBER? 3 IS RIGHT LISA? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES THE ONES I HAD, BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANYBODY ELSE'S.

HEARING ON. >> WE DO THE TAX COLLECTORS?

>> THERE WAS ONE THAT SOMEONE BROUGHT UP THUMBS OUT IN THE DISTRICT CLERK'S SENIOR CLERK TO CONTINUE CLERK ONE.

THOSE WERE DELETED. >> SEPTEMBER 1 WE ALREADY MADE THE MOTION TO HEAD BACK WE DELETED 2 POSITIONS FOR THE MANAGEMENT BECAUSE THE FUNDING WAS NOT THERE.

GARY TOOK ACTION TO HAVE THIS BACK WITH A TRANSFER FROM 131.

THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET.

>> WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING ELSE? JUST ACKNOWLEDGMENT? WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION MR.

GONZALES? >> THE TAX COLLECTOR?

THE CALL CENTER? >> IS AN INSIDE THE BUDGET?

>> WE INCLUDED 2 SENIOR CLERKS ONE SUPERVISOR FOR THE CALL CENTER. IT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.

>> OKAY. HOW ABOUT THE LIBRARY, COUNTY

LIBRARY? >> THEY HAVE THE OUTREACH PERSON THAT WILL BE GOING TO THE PEER.

THE SONG OF THE CASE. THEY STILL NEED IT GOING BETWEEN LIBRARY BISHOP LIBRARY. STILL INCLUDE IN IT ADDITION TO 3610. I MEAN 6310.

>> SUMMITS INSIDE THE BUDGET? XES.

>> AND HOW ABOUT THE LIBRARY TECH ALSO IN THE BUDGET?

> >> REQUALIFICATION ARE INCLUDED

IN THE UDGET YES. >> I HAVE A FEW OPTIONS ON THE AREA DEVELOPER CORPORATION. WE WILL LINE TO THE PHONE SPECIFICALLY OUR DOCUMENT OR IS A SPECIAL ACCOUNT.

IF YOU CAN HELP ME ON THAT. I LIKE TO ADDRESS IT IF WE CAN DURING THIS PROCESS, IF NOT WE COULD DO IT ON A LATER DATE.

ARE THEY IN OUR BUDGET AS A LINE ITEM OR A SPECIAL.

>> IS PAID UNDER GENERAL ADMIN, DOWNTOWN MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

IT'S JUST INCORPORATED OUR EDC. YES, 10,000 IS WHAT WE PAY THEM. YOU FUND SPECIAL REVENUE.

THERE IS ABOUT 50,000 STILL AVAILABLE FROM SAVINGS WITH THE LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANTS. IF YOU'RE TRYING TO DO THE 70

THINK IT'S 260. >> I LIKE TO GET UP TO 70 AND

MAKE THE DIFFERENCE. >> WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER RED'S? THAT MEANS WERE GETTING ROB STONE THE ENTIRE DEWEESE'S COUNTY. IF WERE GOING TO GO UP WE HAVE

TO GO UP BOTH OF THEM. >>.

>> THAT'S LIKE 50,000 DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.

OUR EDC HAS ALREADY BEEN ON THE LOW END.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT OUR EDC? WE ONLY FUND THEM 10,000.

>> MARLA LOEWEN. WE START COME TOGETHER AND WE HAD TO GIVE IT OUT OF OUR FUNDS.

ONE YEAR, FOR 5 YEARS AGO WE PUT THEM ALL IN A SET OKAY PERCOCO 10 FOR ABC. 54 ?. IF YOU WANT TO GO UP FOR

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ROTC WE GOT LOOK AT THE OTHER ONE TOO.

THEY COVER THE INTOLERANT COUNTY.

>> ALSO WE NEVER HAVE THE DISCUSSION WE CAN MAYBE BRING IT BACK BUT I TALKED TO THE ARMY TC WHEN YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IF THEY WANT TO FUSE.

NO THEY DO NOT WANT TO FUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO COME TOGETHER. ROBERT HOW YOU SUGGESTED THAT? OUR EDC. YOU SAID EMERGE?

OUR ADC. >> TO MERGE WITH MC DC.

>> THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THERE HAS TO BE SOME SEMBLANCE OF AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT EACH OF THESE GROUPS TO AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE SAY THE COUNTY, THIS IS EMERGING CORRIDOR.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY.

WE ARE GOING TO WANT TO HAVE OUR REPRESENTATIVES WITH THE REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION DOES IS FANTASTIC.

NOT, IT'S REGIONAL. THEY ARE THERE IN A NONBIASED WAY TO LOOK AT A REGION. WHAT WE DO INSIDE OF OUR ADC AND IN CDC IS LOOK AT US. THEY LOOK AT THEIR JURISDICTION AND THEIR SURROUNDING AREAS. WE LOOK FROM PORT A ALL THE WAY TO THE EDGES OF BISHOP AND THE EDGES OF ?.

>> I DON'T THINK THEY'D BE BIASED.

>> THEY ARE BIASED. I SAT IN THE MEETINGS.

THEY ARE BIASED. THEY GO FOR WHAT THE BEST.

THEY ARE NOT THERE TO PROMOTE ONE COUNTY OVER ANOTHER.

THEY ARE THERE TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE REGION PROSPERS.

THAT'S A GOOD THING. IT'S NOT IN OUR BEST INTEREST ALWAYS. FOR EXAMPLE WHEN WE ARE FINE BETWEEN 2 COUNTIES AS TO WHICH IS THE BEST LOCATION, WE OF COURSE WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR WHY WE BELIEVE OUR COUNTY OFFERS THE BEST SITE, SELECTION FOR WHATEVER INDUSTRY IS COMING.

THEY OF COURSE LOOK AT EVERYTHING BUT WE ARE PROMOTING OUR WONDERFUL AMENITIES OR OUR ASSETS OR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

>> THERE CONCERN THE WESTERN AREA OF THE COUNTY.

>> THE JUDGE IS TALKING ABOUT CCR EDC.

>> I SUPPORT EACH ENTITY. WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT THAT OUR ADC IS THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT MAKING CERTAIN THAT THEY CAN HAVE SMALL BUSINESSES. THEY HAVE EMPTY OUTLETS AND HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CORE DOORS THAT INCLUDE EVERYTHING FROM SMALL BUSINESS, FAST FOOD TO GAS STATIONS TO HOUSING.

THEY HAVE THEIR OWN UNIQUE CONCERNS.

>> WHERE'S THE MONEY GOT A COME FROM? IF WE INCREASE ONE THAT WE SHOULD INCREASE EATS THE OTHER

WEARS A BUDDY COMING FROM. >> AS TERESA SAID DEPARTMENT 1285. WE HAVE SOME SAVINGS AND REDUCE SOME OF HER LOBBING OFFENSE. WE HAVE SOME AREAS IF WE WANT

THE EQUAL AMOUNT FOR BOTH. >> HOW MUCH IS IN THERE?

>> IT'S ABOUT $60,000 AVAILABLE.

>> CAN WE START WITH 30 AGE? >> I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

>> JUST SO YOU KNOW IF YOU PUT 30 IN DON'T GET ANYTHING EXTRA.

CAN YOU MAKE SURE THE CCR D EXTRA.

>> THEY DON'T DO THAT BOARD SEAT ANYMORE.

THEY STOPPED DOING IT. I CALLED AND ASKED.

THEY CHANGED UP TO WHERE IT'S NOW ?.

>> THEY STILL HAVE INVESTOR. THEY HAVE TO NOMINATE.

>> IS NOT AUTOMATIC IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

>> I SEE. >> I WOULD SAY TAKE THE 30 FOR EACH OF THEM. GIVE THEM BOTH AN EXTRA 30 AND

IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK. >> IF IT DOESN'T GIVE US ANY

ACCESS. >> DOESN'T GET YOU ANYTHING EXTRA. THE IRONY IS WE HAVE AN AMAZING TEAM RIGHT NOW WORKING ON PROJECTS THAT WERE REPRESENTED TO US EARLIER.

$1.1 MILLION AND THE CASH RESERVE FUND.

I DON'T THINK THEY NEED OUR 30,000.

>> RIGHT NOW WERE FUNDED 50,000 FOR 2 CRT.

>> THERE 5 TIMES THE SIZE BECAUSE THE COVER THE WHOLE COASTAL BEND. I'M AGREEING WITH THE CONCEPT

ON DOING FOR BOTH. >> HOW ABOUT OUR OWN OASIS

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COUNTY TO POMA CORPORATION. WHY NOT BOOST OUR OWN OASIS COUNTY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION? ALTHOUGH WE HAVE ENOUGH DOLLARS

THERE CURRENTLY. >> JUDGE THAT WILL BE ON THE

AGENDA. >> NEXT WEEK?

>> METAL TICKETS NEXT WEEK. AFTER GO BACK AND LOOK.

TO TALK ABOUT THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF WHAT TO DO WITH HIM.

>> I'M SAYING SAVE YOUR 30,000. IF YOU WANT PUT 30 OVER HERE JOHN, SAVIOR 30 OR WHAT BENEFITS OUR COUNTY.

SPECIFICALLY. >> I THINK THE CCR ED COUNTY.

>> WITH GOT REPRESENTATION FOR THE DOLLARS WE HAVE.

NOT GONNA GET ONE THING MORE THERE.

>> WE ARE. >> WHAT HE GONNA GET?

>> ARE YOU WANTING TO BRING OUR EDC UP TO WHERE WORK FUNDING CC

OUR EDC? >> NO.

I THINK CCR EDC SHOULD GET MORE BECAUSE THEY COVER MORE GROUND

THAN JUST OUR EDC WHICH COVERS. >> ARE NOT ASKING FOR MORE

MONEY. >> WE HAVEN'T BEEN FUNDING OUR

EDC NOWHERE NEAR THAT LEVEL. >> AM AWARE TERESA.

10,004 ONE 50,000 FOR ANOTHER. THAT'S WHAT WE EQUITABLE THING

CAN CHANGE. >> YOU WANT TO ELIMINATE YOUR OASIS COUNTY AND HE WANT TO GIVE 30,000 TO SOMEONE WHO'S

NOT ASKING FOR THE DOLLARS? >> JUDGE, I HAVE ASKED FOR ROB

TOWN AREA. >> ROB REPRESENTED.

>> HE'S ON THE BOARD. THEY HAD A MEETING.

>> NO ONE CAME AND PRESENTED. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD NO ANSWER ON THIS UNTIL RIGHT THIS MINUTE AT 6 O'CLOCK AT THE IT OF THE DAY. TRY TO BE FAIR GIVE SOME TO EVERYBODY. THAT SEEMS TO BE OFFENSIVE.

>> ARE NOT IN A RUSH. AS LONG AS THE MONEY IS THERE.

WE COULD HAVE THIS DISCUSSION LATER ON HOW TO PUT IT UP PUTS THE MONEY DOESN'T CARRYOVER BUT WE HAVE NEXT WEEK.

>> IS ALLOCATED THE BUDGET YES, SIR NO?

>> IT IS NOT CARRYOVER. >> THE SAVINGS IS NOT COMING OVER? SPEAKERS] WORRY ABOUT HOW WE SPLIT UP LATER.

>> OR THE IN CDC. >> NOT PUTTING THAT MY MOTION.

>> ARE PARTICULARLY FROM AN CDC TO BE HONEST.

>> SECURITY TO THAT COMMISSIONER.

>> NO I HAVEN'T. NOT YET.

BUDGET. IT'S AND OTHER SERVICES FOR THOSE ENTITIES. WE ARE TO HAVE 50 K THAT'S ALREADY IN THERE FOR CCR EDC. 10,004 OUR EDC.

IF OUR INCREASING EXCESSES COMING FROM THE LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANT MONEY QUICK SO KNOW YOUR SAY THERE IS NO ACCESS THERE. WE ARTICLE THE 60 ALLOCATED.

NOT CHANGING OUT. WE WANT TO GIVE MORE.

WE ARE BEGINNING OF THE MORE? >> THE MORE IS A SAVING FROM

THE CONSULTANTS. >> ON A ONE-TIME BASIS?

>> RIGHT. FOR THIS YEAR.

BUCKS AND AT 60,000. >> YES.

>> DAWNDY WANT TO PUT IN THE CONTINGENCY AND FIGURED OUT

LATER? >> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

>> AMEN. >> JOHN MADE A MOTION OF SOME

ORT. >> WAS A MOTION TO TAKE SAVINGS FROM 1275, 1285 I'M SORRY. I MOVED TO CONTINGENCIES WHICH WOULD CARRY OVER TO THE DESK FIXABLE YEAR?

>> NO MA'AM. >> HE WILL HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION. IT JUST NEEDS TO BE MADE.

>> IT'LL BE PART OF NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

[INAUDIBLE] >> IS WHO WILL CARRYOVER.

THIS MOTION IS SECOND. MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MAREZ AND A SECOND FROM TRUSTEE. ALL SIGNIFY BY SAYING I

APPEARED IS JUST. >> YOU WANT TO VOTE TO EXTEND

THEM ANYTIME. >> WE HAVE TO.

>> IS THERE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING TIME UNTIL 6:30?

>> OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I SO THE NEXT ONE IS CHIEF COOK.

[12. Discuss and consider approval of the Sheriff and Constable Fees for 2023, pursuant to Section 118.131 of the Texas Local Government Code.]

THERE CHERIF AND CONSTABLE FEES FOR 2023.

SINCE WE REPRESENT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE CAN YOU TELL US IF THIS COULD BE ANY ADJUSTMENTS.

>> OH MY GOD WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET.

HOLD ON CHIEF THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF AMENDMENTS I WAS MUCH BETTER BEEN PLACED ON THE RECORD.

THE COMPREHENSIVE BUDGET WITH ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE PROBABLY BEEN STATED. NEED TO BE APPROVED.

AS OUR MOTION TO APPROVE THE BUDGET.

>> ESTIMATE YOU APPROVE THE BUDGET AS AMENDED AND THE

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CORRECTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED WITH THE AMENDMENTS INCLUDED WHICH INCLUDES A 6 PERCENT COST-OF-LIVING INCREASE MET IN ALL THE RECLASSIFICATIONS.

THAT'S BEEN SUGGESTED ENTITY ACTIONS NEED TO BE DONE.

>> THERE'S A MOTION IN A SECOND.

MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE BUDGET AS AMENDED ALONG WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT INCLUDES A 6 PERCENT COLA AND THERE ARE SOME COME CORRECTIONS HE TOLD US ABOUT THE VERY BEGINNING THIS

COULD MAKE THOSE CORRECTIONS. >> YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

PENNIES MAY RECORD VOTE. >> DOES NOT MEAN, THEY'RE JUST SOME THINGS WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO.

THERE'S ONE HERE, EXECUTIVE ACCOUNTING FROM 28 TO 30 IS A $13,000 INCREASE. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN PROVE THAT ONE. HIS $13,000 INCREASE.

>> FOR WHICH ONE? >> FRONT EXECUTIVE ACCOUNTING

2020 TO 35. >> THE PERSON THAT CAME IN AS QUALIFIED AND ACCESS FOR THE REQUIREMENTS SO I PUT IT IN FOR THAT I COULD REDUCE IT BY ONE PAID GREAT THIS POSITION REQUIRES AN INCREASE OF SOME POINT.

>> IS THIS PERSON, OR YOU CAN POST FOR THIS POSITION?

>> THEY ARE ALREADY HERE. >> YOU ALREADY HAVE THEM EDIT

CERTAIN A RATE? >> THERE ARE 20 8:00 A.M.

ASKING TO GO 30. >> YOUR OFFER TO COMPROMISE AT

29? >> WAS THE AMOUNT? 13 WOULD BE WHAT? EPIC TO COPY THAT.

>> IS A SALARY COMMENSURATE? IS THE PAY GROUP 30 MEASURED WITH THE WORK PRODUCT, NOT THE WORK PRODUCT BUT THE WORK THAT

THIS PERSON WILL BE DOING. >> GUESS I'LL MAKE THE MOTION YOU CAN VOTE AGAINST IT. THIS IS NOT LET'S MAKE A DEAL.

MY MOTION IS TO ACCEPT IT. IS HER SECOND? OKAY. SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE SAME SIGN.

>> NO. COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ.

YOU DON'T WANT TO DO SO NOW THERE'S A MOTION COMMISSIONER DO WANT TO MAKE MOTION COOKS I WILL ALLOW THE PAY RATE TO GO

TO 29. >> NO OSSIFICATION? JUST LIKE THE 30? COOKS IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO $30 INCREASE. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT I WAS

HERE. >> THE ISSUE IS WHAT WE NEED TO BE ASKING IS WHETHER OR NOT, YOU GOT THE MOTION, IS OUR R SECOND? WE NEED A SECOND COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ WOULD YOU LIKE TO SECOND COMMISSIONER GONZALES IS MOTION. OKAY, WE GOT A DISCUSSION.

DISCUSSION, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A LATE HOUR AND EVERYONE IS TIRED. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S JUSTIFICATIONS. I UNDERSTAND YOU MAY NOT LIKE THE 13,000. IF THE WORK IS WANT THE SALARY SUPPOSED TO BE OUT, WE NEED TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THAT.

WHY WOULD WE JUST ASK SOMETHING BECAUSE IT LOOKS TO YOU NOT TO BE APPROPRIATE WHEN IT THE GENTLEMAN WHO'S GOT THE EXPERTISE SAYS. I'M JUST SAYING WE DO OURSELVES NO GOOD JUSTICE IF ARE NOT ACTUALLY ASKING WHAT THE SALARIES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE. IN GETTING TO THEM.

ARTICULARLY SINCE IT WAS ALREADY PART OF THE BUDGET.

OKAY, MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OKAY, WE WILL MAKE THAT A 29.

ANYTHING ELSE COMMISSIONER GONZALES ON THE BUDGET THAT YOU WANT TO BRING UP BEFORE WE VOTE ON THE BUDGET?

>> I'M SORRY TO THAT HOUSE? >> IT'S 29.

AGAIN, THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE BUDGET AS AMENDED WITH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT P. IN THE ADDITION OF THE CLERICAL OR NOT CLERICAL BUT YOU'RE GONNA MAKE SOME AMENDMENTS.

ALL RIGHT. I NEED A SECOND.I DON'T KNOW THERE WAS A SECOND EARLIER? A SECOND FOR THE BUDGET? THERE WAS, I WAS HEADED TO THE RECORD VOTE.

OKAY SECOND. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, HOW DO YOU VOTE ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET?

>> NO. >> I MAKE THE MOTION, GONZALES SECOND IT. DID YOU THINK IT WAS SOMEBODY ELSE?

>> ON PASSING THE BUDGET HERE. KAY, CHESNEY BOTH KNOW.

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COMMISSIONER GONZALES HOW DO YOU U VOTE?

>> . COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ HOW YOU

VOTE? >> MYSELF BY, KAREN.

NOW CHIEF COOK. CONSTABLE AND SHERIFF FEES.

>> JUDGE MAY TAKE YOU UP ITEM 7 BEFORE YOU GO TO THAT ITEM.

URE. MOTION TO APPROVE MY COMMISSIONER MODEST, A SECOND BIKE GONZALES.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AVOR SIGNIFY WERE. WERE DOING THAT RIGHT OW.

AND YOU WANT TO RECORD VOTE. [VOTING] I'M AFRAID TO SAY YOUR NAME SIR. CHIEF COOK.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP? >> FOR III TIME CHIEF.

OF[LAUGHTER] >> CONTEST CAPTAIN GARCIA WORN RENTS BY WARRANTS AND CIVIL PROCESS AND SHE GOT WITH ALL THE PERTINENT INDIVIDUALS AND LILIA GUTIERREZ, SERGIO ? AND THEY DETERMINED AFTER THEY LOOKED AT EVERYTHING THAT THERE WILL BE NO INCREASE IN FEES FOR 2023.

WERE GOOD WERE OUT. >> WAIT, WAIT.

WHO LOOKED AT IT AND WHY? >> LAURA GARCIA IS CAPTAIN OF WARRANTS AND I TEST HER WITH REACHING OUT TO THE INDIVIDUALS TO DETERMINE. IT WAS POSTED FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE IF THEY HAD ANYTHING THAT THEY WANTED REGARD TO AN INCREASE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.

NONE OF THE LECTINS RESPONDED AS FAR AS I HAVE BEEN INFORMED.

AFTER HER DISCUSSION WITH AN AND MS. GUTIERREZ AND MR. R.

MONTEFIORE IS TERMINED THAT WE DON'T NEED ANY INCREASES.

>> YOU SELECTED YOU TALKING ABOUT THE CONSTABLES?

>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY DIDN'T RESPOND.

IT WAS PUT OUT AND NOBODY SAID THEY NEEDED ANY INCREASES.

>> HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST.

CONSTABLE CLARK HAS TAKEN THE LEAD ON THAT.

HE'S NO LONGER THERE. HE BROUGHT A VERY DETAILED ANALYSIS ON THE IN THE PAST. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN THE PAST HAS RECOMMENDED NOT INCREASING THESE AND SO YOUR CONSISTENT AND THAT'S GOOD. I THINK SOMETHING MAY HAVE FALLEN TO THE CROCS I'D LIKE TO BRING IT BACK IS MOTION ON THE TABLE. LOOK AT THIS ITEM.

THERE'S NO WAY WE ARE COVERING THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS WITH THESE FEES IN MY OPINION. I DON'T KNOW HOW OR WHO WE GET TO LOOK AT THIS. I'M NOT THE ONE.

>> I DO KNOW WE WENT UP LAST YEAR.

SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN THE PAST. >> WE WENT UP LAST YEAR.

IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO ME. >> CONSTABLE CLARK HAS TAKEN THE LEAD WHEN HE WAS THERE. I JUST THINK THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN THIS TIME. I DON'T KNOW WHO TO GET TO LOOK AT IT. I DON'T WANT TO JUST TABLE IT.

>> I'D LIKE TO CONFIRM WE DO HAVE THE OPTION.

WE DON'T HAVE TO SET THEM AND WE HAVE TO HAVE IT DONE BEFORE OCTOBER 1? IF SO WE COULD PUT IT BACK ON

THE AGENDA NEXT WEEK. >> THE DEADLINE IS OCTOBER 1.

>> IN THE PAST YOU DID AN ANALYSIS FOR US.

>> THE CONSTABLES TO PROVIDE THE LABOR COST OF THE OTHER COST THEY WERE USING TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE EVALUATION OF THE FEES WERE. THAT'S WHY THE YEAR BEFORE THAT'S WHEN THE INCREASE WAS. WE ARE WELL BELOW THE COST OF

DOING BUSINESS. >> THE ANALYSIS WAS BROUGHT TO US AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO UP AS HIGH AS WHAT Y'ALL HAVE THAT WE NEEDED TO GO OUT. WE WERE GONNA GO UP INCREMENTALLY SO WASN'T JUST A STICKER SHOCK.

CAN YOU GO BACK AND PULL OUT THAT ANALYSIS AND HAVE THAT FOR

US? >> WE WILL PULL UP SOMETHING

FOR YOU. >> IF IT'S NOT NEXT WEEK I'M

OKAY WITH TABLING IT. >> I THINK THE DEADLINE IS IN DECEMBER. I COULD BE WRONG.

>> LOOK, WE THINK WE CAN DO IS ALERT CAPTAIN GARCIA THAT WE MAY WANT TO TOUCH BASE WITH HER AND APPRECIATE HER HARD WORK ON IT. WE WILL AT LEAST BRING BACK THE ANALYSIS THAT WE HAVE. I DON'T THINK SHE WOULD MIND US

LOOKING AT IT. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> MOTION TO TABLE.

>> MOTION BY CHESNEY AND A SECOND BY GONZALEZ TO BRING IT

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BACK FOR THE DEADLINE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

THE NEXT ONE. >> INKY CHIEF.

[13. Discuss and consider the execution of the contract for Bob Hall Pier Owner's Representative. ]

>> OKAY. EXECUTION OF A CONTRACT FOR BOB HALL. OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE.

IT'S AN EXECUTION OF THE CONTRACT.

IS THERE A MOTION TO EXECUTE THIS CONTRACT AND HAS IT BEEN REVIEWED AND ARE YOU READY TO PROCEED?

>> COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS PASSED MUSTARD.

I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THAT.

THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THIS ONE.

WE WERE GONNA DO SOME DIRECTION.

>> THE REPRESENTATIVE TO INSTRUCT THE ENGINEER.

>> THE REPRESENTATIVE TO WORK WITH THE ENGINEER AND THE PROGRAM MANAGER TO COME BACK WITH A DETAILED ANALYSIS OF EVERY PENNIES BEING BUDGETED FOR THE COST OF BOB HALL.

AND THEY COST, SPECIFIC COST BREAKDOWN TO THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE MODEL WHILE THE DUAL PILE.

HOW MUCH EVERYTHING COST. WE WANT TO LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE

THING. >> TO BE MORE SPECIFIC I THINK IT'S MORE ABOUT, YET BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A COST ESTIMATE ON EVERYTHING. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT BREAKDOWN ON THE MONO VERSUS THE DUAL. WE DO HAVE THE OTHERS.

>> WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE VERIFIED.AND DOES NOT HAVE THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO VERIFY THE COST.

THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD ME. WE NEED THE COST BROKEN DOWN FROM THE DESIGN ENGINEER GIVEN TO THE PROGRAM MANAGER.

>> I GOT YOU. >> THAT'S ON EVERYTHING.ONO, DUAL, EVERYTHING.MATERIALS. LINKED WITH EVERYTHING.

>> MOTION. >> IS TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT.

>> THAT'S FINE. MOTION TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT FOR BOB HALL PEER REPRESENTATIVE NUECES COUNTY

REPRESENTATIVE. >> OKAY.

NOW THIS IS THE ONE ISSUE YOU MAY SEE COMING UP AND PROCUREMENT WHERE THERE'S A THRESHOLD THAT WILL NEED TO BE RAISED FOR THE MICRO PROCUREMENTS.

THIS IS FOR GETTING YOUR REIMBURSEMENTS LATER ON.

SO I MAY NEED TO BRING AN ITEM FOR THE COURT TO JUST RAISE THAT CEILING UP SO WE CAN GET THE REIMBURSEMENT.

>>.

COOK'S SUBLEASED EXECUTION OF THE CONTRACT.

A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

DID YOU SECOND? X JUDGE MADE IT.

>> I SIGNIFIED BY SAYING I. >> THE SECOND MOTION JUDGE IS TO DIRECT THE JACOBS NGINEERING TO PROVIDE THE COURT IN THE PROGRAM MANAGER DETAILED COST BREAKDOWNS ON EVERY ASPECT OF THE PEER, MONO VERSUS DUAL AND EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE PEER SO THAT AND HAS THE APPROPRIATE INFORMATION TO VERIFY THOSE COST. THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.

HOPEFULLY THAT'S BROAD ENOUGH. >> SO MOVED.

[14. Discuss and consider adopting updated Commissioners Court policies and procedures. ]

>> I'M SORRY VERSUS SECOND. MOTION IS MY CHESANING, SECOND BY GONZALES. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. OKAY. ON ITEM NUMBER 14 THE COMMISSIONERS COURT POLICIES THAT ARE BEFORE US.

ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THE APPOINTMENTS.

>> JUDGE I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO PASS IT.

>> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FIRST ONE WHICH

IS THE APPOINTMENTS. >> YES MA'AM.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

>> JUDGE I WILL MAKE A MOTION ON NUMBER 2 FOR PASSAGE AS

WELL. >> MOTION IS ON THE SECOND PIECE WHICH IS THE ABSTENTION, THE CHARLOTTE STAIN FROM VOTING. THERE IS A MOTION BY MR. TESTING. AS HER SECOND?

>> SECOND. THERE'S A COND BY COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. THE DISCUSSION OF THE PLACE ON THE HE RECORD IS I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM THIS THIS VOTE I WILL BE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL AL LEGAL OPINION.

I MADE THIS CLEAR INSIGHT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION I WISH TO MAKE IT IN PUBLIC. TEXAS LAW PER CHAPTER 171 DOES A GREAT EAT JOB OF MAKING CERTAIN TRANSPARENCY FOR ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS WHICH WE ALL TAKE AN OATH TO THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION AND TO THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS THIS WENT VERY MUCH VIOLATES THAT. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS ADVISED IT HAS NO ABILITY TO BE ENFORCED AND SO THEREFORE I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THIS IS CONTINUED TO BE VENTED AND SHE HAS SAID THAT SHE WOULD. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. ABSTAINING. THE NEXT ONE HAS TO DO WITH THE

[16. Discuss and consider Dr. Adel Shaker’s work agreement and/or settlement agreement; and related matters.]

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AGREEMENT ITEM NUMBER 16 WHICH, JENNY, TO ME TO HAVE AN EMOTION? OR IS THAT A TABLE AT THIS

TIME? >> NO, WE WOULD ASK TO TABLE

THAT AT THIS TIME. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM 16 CARROT? 15 WE TABLED EARLIER.

16 IS TABLED UNTIL IT'S READY. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> ON WHICH ONE JUDGE? >> ITEM 16.

THE WORK AGREEMENT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THE NEXT ONE IS, IT'S A REGULAR, OH NO IT'S NOT.E HAVE 17 AND 18.

[17. Rescind August 10, 2022, allocation of funds for HQ office management software for County Attorney’s office through American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA).]

I BELIEVE THIS IS FOR PROCUREMENT PROCESS CLEANUP.

>> TO CLEAN UP AND MAKE SURE WE DO PROCUREMENT.

THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE SOFTWARE OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. IT'S A MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE THAT IS ONLY BEEN APPROVED. WE NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN IT'S DONE THE PROPER WAY. HAVE A MOTION RIGHT NOW ON ITEM

[18. Discuss and consider funding of office management software for County Attorney’s office through American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA).]

17 TO RESEND AUGUST 10'S ALLOCATION OF FUNDS FOR HQ OFFICE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE FOR THE CA'S OFFICE.

AS HER SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. THEN 18 IS THE ACTUAL WAY TO GET THE SOFTWARE PROCURED. THUS TO CONSIDER FUNDING OF THE SOFTWARE TO THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT.

I WOULD ASK THERE BE A SECOND TO OUR MOTION TO PROCURE THE SOFTWARE THROUGH ARPA. QUICK SECOND.

>> LLY DO HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE THERE MICHAEL? IT'S ALREADY, WE ARE TO HAVE PROCUREMENT OPPORTUNITY THERE

RIGHT? >> YES, THIS IS TO ECURE THE FUNDING PIECE.THEN I WILL COME BACK WITH THE PROCUREMENT

[19. Discuss and consider next Commissioners Court meeting date.]

LATER. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THEREFORE IF ANYONE HAS QUESTION ASKED MICHAEL.

HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. THE NEXT ONE IS ALWAYS ON TO MAKE SURE. I HAVE A SEPTEMBER 14.

THAT'S THE NEXT COMMISSIONER STATE.

THAT'S REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING.

[1. Discuss and consider conditional selection for RFP No. 3190-22 Jail Needs Assessment.]

OKAY. I DON'T NEED TO MOTION FOR IT.

IT'S ALREADY SCHEDULED ON THE CALENDAR.

ON PURCHASING MICHAEL THERE'S A SELECTION FOR JAIL NEEDS ASSESSMENT. IT'S RFP 319022.

IS THERE A WAY YOU CAN BE SWIFT AS THEY SAY.

>> YES, WE RECEIVED 3 PROPOSALS.

THIS ITEM WILL BE FUNDED BY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WITH HIS INMATE COMMISSARY FUNDS. THESE ARE FUNDS WHICH THE SHERIFF HAS COMPLETE DISCRETION OVER.

AND THE COMMITTEE IS GOING TO RECOMMEND ADDITIONAL SELECTION

OF CGL COMPANIES. >> SEE SHE FELL? OKAY, COME BACK WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU UPON GETTING APPROVAL OF SELECTIONS. THEY WILL COME BACK TO YOU WITH

THE CONTRACT ONLY TO DATE. >> WAS A SHERIFF A PART OF THIS

ASSESSMENT. >> SHERIFF, I DATE MYSELF FROM THE COMMUNITY. IT WAS A UNANIMOUS RECORDATION?

>> YES. >> I WILL MOTION TO ACCEPT.

IS THERE SECOND? QUICK SECOND.

>> THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF MICHAEL ACCORDANCE THE GEL NEEDS ASSESSMENT. YOU COULD MAYBE BE MORE DETAILED BRINGING ABOUT.> WE WILL BRING BACK THE DETAILS

ONCE THEY BEEN NEGOTIATED. >> THAT WILL BE GREAT I WILL LOOK FOR SCOPE, TIMELINE AND COST.

>> CORRECT. >> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS? CERTAINLY DATED ASSESSMENT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

[2. Discuss and consider conditional selection for RFP No. 3193-22 Nueces County Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) System and Replacement of Timeclocks.]

OKAY. >> WE ARE GOING TO RECLOTHE REQUEST TO TABLE THE NEXT ITEM. WE WERE ASKED BY THE COURT POSSIBLY TO LOOK INTO THIS A LITTLE FURTHER.

>> ARE STILL DOING THAT. >> WE REQUESTED A BEST AND FINAL OFFER FROM TYLER FOR THE FULL 10 YEARS WHICH THEY PROVIDED UNJUST YESTERDAY. DALE AND I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO LOOK AT THAT THOROUGHLY AND GET WITH I-80 ON

THE FUNDING. >> REQUESTS WHICH I THINK IS THE COURT'S REQUEST IS THAT THERE WERE 2 ITEMS THAT DELL WAS VERY SPECIFIC THAT WERE VERY IMPORTANT AND YOU INCLUDE THAT IN HER CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.HIS PARTICULAR 2, I WILL CALL THEM NEEDS, THE TYPES OF WORK THAT THE SOFTWARE WOULD UNDERTAKE. I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH PAYROLL AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE OTHER ONE HAD TO DO WITH. DALE ?.

>> WILL WORK ON IT. >> SO SEPTEMBER 14.

MOTION TO TABLE. IS THERE IS SECOND ALL THOSE IN

[1. Discuss and consider Toshiba DIR contracts as an addition to the Vendor Payments Exception List not requiring Commissioners Court pre-approval.]

FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

YOU HAVE A CONTRACT IT'S DIR IN ADDITION TO THE VENDOR PAYMENTS

EXCEPTION LIST. >> WE RECENTLY GOT A CONTRACT

[07:45:01]

WITH TOSHIBA AND THEY REQUIRE ADVANCE PAYMENTS ON CERTAIN ITEMS. LIKE TO ADD THIS TO THE EXCEPTION LIST THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE COURT ACTION.

WE CAN BRING IT. MOST THE TIME THERE'S NO

CANCELLATION SERVICES. >> MOTION TO APPROVE, IS THERE SECOND? ALL RIGHT, SECOND BY

[2. Approve Budget Change Order No. 20 for Fiscal Year 2021-2022.]

COMMISSIONER MAREZ. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. A BUDGET ORDER NUMBER 20.

>> WERE GETTING CLOSE THE FISCAL YEAR END.

THIS IS A LARGER REQUIREMENT FOR SOME OF OUR DEPARTMENTS FOR THIS. BUDGET CHANGE NUMBER 20.

THE LARGEST ONE PAGE ONE IS FOR SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

WE TRIED TO BRING IN TEMPORARIES TO REDUCE THEIR OVERTIME COST AND THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FUNDING AVAILABLE IN THEIR MAINTENANCE TO COVER THIS COST.

OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES ALLOWS OVERTIME FOR THE ISSUES THAT ARE GOING THROUGH REPUBLIC SET UP AND OTHER STUFF WERE TRYING TO GET PROCUREMENT FOR. THE GETTING THEIRS FUNDED BY THE COMMUNITY BUILDING. THE LARGEST ONE IS ON PAGE 2 IS FOR OUR ROADS AND BRIDGES. SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT IS GETTING AGED. THE EQUIPMENT REPAIRS FOR THE OLDER EQUIPMENT IS GETTING EXPENSIVE AS WELL AS OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THAT THE ROAD AND BRIDGE NEEDS.

THEY HAVE BOTH FUNDS IN RESERVES.

THESE FUNDS REQUEST ADVANCEMENT ABOUT MY OFFICE.

WE REVIEWED THEM THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE FOR THIS REQUEST.

SUBMIT BUDGET CHANGE IT OR FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 20.

IS OUR SECOND? QUICK SECOND.

[8. Discuss and consider accepting funds received from the Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts for the County participation in the unclaimed capital credits from electric cooperatives under Section 74.602 of the Texas Property Code; Deposit allocation in the Family Protection Fee Account, Special Revenue Department #1379.]

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

>> TO HAVE AN ITEM NUMBER 8 THAT WAS SKIPPED EARLIER.

IT'S TO ACCEPT THE FUNDS BY THE COMPTROLLER OF PUBLIC ACCOUNTS FOR THE COUNTY PARTICIPATION WHAT THEY CALLED UNCLAIMED CAPITAL CREDITS FOR ELECTIVE COOPERATIVES.

THIS IS THROUGH AEP. IT'S A GREAT CHECK.

I THINK IT WAS 48,000? >> YES.

>> IS OUR MOTION, IT WOULD GO INTO A SPECIAL REVENUE DEPARTMENT 1379. AS OUR MOTION TO ACCEPT THESE

UNCLAIMED CAPITAL CREDITS. >> YES.

DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER?> MY QUESTION IS I SEE ONLINE, I GET STUFF ON THE TIME PEOPLE SHOWING ME THIS TEXAS UNCLAIMED PROPERTY. WE HAVE THESE DIFFERENT LISTINGS. WE CHECKED OUT REGULARLY.

>> WE GO THROUGH THAT REGULARLY DETERMINE WHETHER WE ARE FUNDS OF THE TIME. WE ARE ALREADY SCREENING THIS.

YES. >> IT WAS FUNNY SOMEONE SET WE WANT TODAY SAYING HEY YOU NEED TO CHECK OUT THIS WEBSITE IT ALWAYS IS COUNTIES ON THEIR BUNCH. DIDN'T LOOK BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A WATER DISTRICT.

THERE'S NO OASIS COUNTY LIST A LOT OF THINGS.