[1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:03] >>> OKAY. WE ARE ALL SET, CONNIE. I WILL OFFICIALLY GAVEL US IN AND WISH YOU GOOD MORNING. I DO WALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND ASK THAT YOU PLEASE RISE FOR INVOCATION THIS MORNING. THIS MORNING WE HAVE WITH US FROM OUR CATHOLIC DIOCESE, REVEREND BISHOP MULBY. AND WILL YOU REMAIN STANDING AFTER INVOCATION AND WE WILL LEAD INTO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE TEXAS FLAG. >> GOOD MORNING. LET US PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, AS WE COME TOGETHER IN THIS ROOM, WE ASK FOR YOUR BLESSING UPON EACH ONE OF US. FOR THOSE OF US APPOINTED TO SERVICE AND THOSE ELECTED TO SERVICE, MAY WE ALWAYS KEEP IN MIND THE MANDATE THAT WE HAVE COME NOT TO BE SERVED, BUT TO SERVE. SERVICE IS YOUR GIFT TO US AND OUR GIFT TO THOSE WHOM WE SERVE IN THIS AREA. DURING THE SUMMERTIME WE ASK YOU TO KEEP SAFE THE CHILDREN AND THOSE VULNERABLE AND WATCH AFTER THE POOR AND MAY ALL OF THE DECISIONS MADE HERE TODAY BE AT THE SERVICE OF THOSE MOST IN NEED FOR THE BETTER MEANT OF OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR COUNTY AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE OUR NEIGHBORS. BLESS THIS MEETING AND GIVE US THE COURAGE AND THE WEUS -- WISDOM TO SPEAK FOR WHO CAN'T SPEAK. WE ASK THIS COURAGE IN YOUR NAME. AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDERGOD, INDIVISIBLE FOR JUSTICE AND FOR ALL. >> HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I HONOR THEE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDERGOD, ONE, AN INDIVISIBLE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE CLERK. IT WAS 8:35 WHEN WE BEGAN THIS MORNING AND I WILL NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT IT IS JUNE 8TH, 2022, AND WE ARE HERE IN COMMISSIONER'S COURTROOM INSIDE THE NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE AT 901 NORTH LEOPARD. ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT. WE HAVE COMMISSIONER BRENT CHESNEY ONLINE AND PARTICIPATING THROUGH VIRTUAL ZOOM. AND BECAUSE ALL OF US ARE HERE I CERTIFY TO THE CLERK THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT. AT THIS TIME I WILL MOVE ON AND ANNOUNCE THAT THIS IS THE TIME IF YOU HAVE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, THE DISCLOSURE SHOULD BE MADE -- DECLARED AT THIS TIME. THIS OF COURSE REGARDS ANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AND FOR THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS THAT DO HAVE CONFLICTS HILLARY TRAIN -- WILL REFRAIN FROM VOTING AND ASKED TO REFRAIN FROM DISCUSSING ITEMS. IF ANY CONFLICTS, WE CANDICE CLOSE THEM AT THIS TIME. ARE THERE ANY TO BE RECEIVED? SEEING THAT WE HAVE NONE, I WILL [E. SAFETY BRIEFING] MOVE QUICKLY TO THE SAFETY BRIEFING AND ASK REBECCA TO PLEASE ADDRESS ALL OF US. I ASK YOU TO GIVE HER YOUR ATTENTION. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS AND ATTENDEES. OUR SAFETY BRIEFING IS BEING HELD IN THE NEW NEW COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURTROOM. THE RESTROOMS ARE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE THIRD FLOOR ATRIUM PAST THE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE. THERE IS A FIRE DISTINGUISHER LOCATED AT THE REAR OF THE COURTROOM AND ALSO FIVE ADDITIONAL FIRE DISTINGUISHERS LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE ATRIUM AREA. STATIONS ARE ON EVERY FLOOR IN THE EVENT OF A CARDIAC EMERGENCY AN AED IS ON THE RIGHT WALL NEXT TO THE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE. PARTICIPANT FOR TODAY WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DIALING 9-1-1 WILL BEACON KNEE. IN THE EVENT OF AN EVACUATION OUR EGRESS ROUTE IS DOWN THE ATRIUM STAIRS AND PROCEEDING OUT THE DOORS ON THE LA PANZ STREET. IT IS IMPORTANT TO STAY TOGETHER. SHOULD THERE BE A NEED TO SHELTER IN PLACE, DEPENDING ON THE SEVERITY OF THE SHELTER IN PLACE, THE COURTROOM DOUBLE DOORS WILL BE SECURED AND REMAIN SECURED UNTIL GIVEN FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE NUECES COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. THAT'S OUR SAFETY BRIEFING. THANK YOU. [2. In recognition of Feast of Corpus Christi Day and the 110th Anniversary of the Diocese of Corpus Christi.] >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> AT THIS TIME, COMMISSIONERS I WILL ADVANCE ONE ITEM AND ONE ITEM ONLY AHEAD OF PUBLIC COMMENT IN ORDER SO THAT BISHOP MULBY MAY ATTEND AN IMPORTANT MEETING HE HAS THIS MORNING WITH THE DIOCESE. IT IS ITEM G2 IN RECOGNITION OF THE FEAST OF CORPUS CHRISTIE DAY AND THE 110TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE DIOCESE OF CAR PUS -- CORPUS CHIT TEE AND I ASK -- CORPUS CHRISTIE. [00:05:06] WOULD YOU PROCEED WITH THE READING? >> YES. THE EXPLORER DISCOVERED A SPECTACULAR BAY ON WHAT IS NOW THE SOUTHERN COAST OF TEXAS, WHEREAS THIS LUSH SEMI-TROPICAL BAY WAS DISCOVERED ON THE ROMAN CATHOLIC FEAST DAY OF CORPUS -- CORPUS CHRISTI WAS NAMED CORPUS CHRISTI. IT IS CELEBRATING THE 110TH ANNIVERSARY OF ITS FOUNDING IN MARCH OF 1912 HAVING BEEN THE APOSTOLIC OF BROWNSVILLE UNTIL THEN AND THE DIOCESE OF CORPUS CHRIS -- CHRISTIE HAS PROVIDED SERVICES TO THE NEW NEW COUNTY COMMUNITY -- NUECES COUNTY KPHAOUGS. MAY IT BE RESERVED THAT JUNE 16TH, 2022 IS HERE BY DECLARED FEAST OF CORPUS CHRISTI DAY IN NUECES COUNTY COMMON RATING OUR COMMUNITY'S RICH HISTORY AND THE COURT FURTHER HERE BY CONGRATULATES THE DIOCESE OF CORPUS CHRISTI ON ITS 110TH ANNIVERSARY. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND BISHOP, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS THIS MORNING JUST ABOUT THE CELEBRATION WE ARE ABOUT TO HAVE? WE DO NEED YOU ON THE MIC SO THOSE ONLINE CAN HEAR. >> IT IS A GREAT HONOR TO RECEIVE THE PROCLAMATION AND THE FEAST OF CORPUS CHRISTI IS A UNIVERSAL FIERCE THROUGHOUT THE WORLD IN THE CHURCH AND PARTICULARLY HERE. MANY RECOGNIZE THIS IS THE ONLY DIOCESE OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH NAMED CORPUS CHRISTI AND IT IS A GREAT HONOR FOR US TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND TO HAVE THIS PROCLAMATION THIS MORNING. SO WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL AND ON THE 16TH THERE WILL BE A PROCESSION THROUGH THE CITY IN THE LATE AFTERNOON. SO ANYONE IS WELCOME TO CERTAINLY JOIN US FOR THAT. THANK YOU VERY, ARE VERY MUCH FOR THIS RECOGNITION. >> THANK YOU. AND THE PROCESSION ACTUALLY -- >> BEGINS AT THE CATHEDRAL AND GOES UP TO MOTHER THERESA'S SHELTER AND BACK DOWN ON LA PAN. >> AND ENDS IN FRONT OF THE JAIL IF ANY WOULD LIKE TO JOIN US. >> WE WILL PRAY FOR THOSE FOR THOSE MOST IN NEED. >> EXACTLY. THANK YOU. IT IS WONDERFUL TO HAVE YOU HERE THIS MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR THE BEAUTIFUL INVOCATION AND IT WILL KEEP US IN THE RIGHT SPIRIT, I BELIEVE. MORE IMPORTANTLY, JUST THERE ARE SO MANY WAYS THAT THE DIOCESE IS INVOLVED WITH EDUCATION AND WITH HEALTHCARE AND WITH THE VULNERABILITIES AND SO IT IS WONDERFUL TO BE ABLE TO CELEBRATE THE 110TH YEAR OF THIS DIOCESE. MOST OF US CAN SEE AS WE APPROACH THIS COURTHOUSE THAT WORK HERE. >> TO LET YOU KNOW, I WASN'T HERE 110 YEARS AGO, BUT I AM THE EIGHTH BISHOP OF CORPUS CHRISTI. THANK YOU. >> WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE, AND I ALWAYS -- I HAVE BEEN INSPIRED TO DO THIS BY SOMEBODY, A CONSTITUENT WHO WROTE TO ME, AND WHILE I KNOW WE ARE CELEBRATING THE FEAST OF CORPUS CHRISTI, AND MY GRANDMOTHER WROTE A BOOK, BUT I WAS ASKED BY THE CONSTITUENT TO HONOR AND REMEMBER THAT WE WERE NOT THE FIRST ON THESE LANDS. THESE LANDS WERE OCCUPIED AND THERE WERE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE HERE BEFORE OUR ARRIVAL AND WE HONOR THAT IN THE SPIRIT OF HONORING ALL OF OUR HISTORY. THANK YOU, BISHOP. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> I. >> I ON -- >> ON THIS BEAUTIFUL OCCASION COULD WE TAKE A PHOTO WITH YOU BEFORE WE MOVE ON? >> SURE. >> BELINDA, I WILL ASK YOU TO -- ACTUALLY, WHO HAS THE -- KARA IS WORKING ON IT. CAN I BORROW IT FOR THE PICTURE? MAY I JUST BORROW IT FOR THE PHOTO? BISHOP, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY WILL SIGN AND THEN WILL YOU BE SO KIND TO RETURN NEXT WEEK FOR THIS? FOR PICK UP? >> AND SO WE WILL MOVE AND [F. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.] [00:10:24] TRANSITION BACK TO REGULAR ORDER WHICH INSPIRES ME TO GO TO ITEM F AND I WILL CALL MR. EDWARDO CANALES. HE WILL BE FIRST. MR. CANALES, GOOD MORNING, SIR. I WILL JUST REMIND THE AUDIENCE FOR A DIGITAL CLOCK. AND TO SHARE YOUR COMMENTS. YOU MAY PROCEED AT ANY TIME. >> I WILL BE. >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW ME. I AM A CORE MEMBER OF THE GREATER GOOD. I AM HERE TO PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT. WE HAVE MEMBERS ALL OVER NUECES COUNTY WE ARE STOPPING THE MASSIVE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRIAL BUILDOUT. >> I ASK YOU ADD THE PRESENTATION AT YOUR NEXT MEETING AND IF WE ARE ALLOTTED TIME TO BE ON THE AGENDA AND WE HAVE PRESENTED FOR DE SALINIZATION. WE KNOW IT IS A CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE. THE NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THE COURT CAN TAKE A VERY, - AND WE CONTINUE TO BE IN THIS COMMUNITY. WE WILL TOUCH ON THE HISTORY OF OF ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF DIESAL LAW -- DESALINATION AND BORDER SOURCES. WE FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS DESALINATION WITH YOU IN DEPTH AND WE NEED A CHAMPION FOR THESE JOBS. WE BELIEVE IT WILL BE IN THE NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT. *6. BETWEEN THE CITY AND CORPUS CHRISTI, I BELIEVE THE LEADERSHIP WILL HAVE A STRONG BEARING IN THIS COMMUNITY. MAYBE THAT CHAMPION CAN BE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I SAID I WOULD BE SHORT AND, YOU KNOW, AND CONTINUE TO LOOK FORWARD TO MAKING THE PRESENTATION TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT. >> MR. LARRY FURKIN AND FOLLOWED BY MR. BOBBIE CHESTNUT. >> HERE AGAIN TO TALK ABOUT THE DIGITS NOT TAKEN CARE OF. IN MY 45 YEARS OF WORKING FOR A RE -- REFINERY, I LEARNED THAT YOU CAN'T JUST SOLVE THE PROBLEM WHERE IT IS AT. I HAVE BEEN TAUGHT THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK. NOT ONLY AT THE PROBLEM OF WHERE IT IS AT, BUT UP STREAM AND DOWNSTREAM. CHOKE POINTS CAN BE A PROBLEM. WHEREVER YOU HAVE CHOKE POINTS YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO BE OUT ANY FURTHER WITH IT. UP STREAM WE HAVE OUR NORTHWEST [00:15:01] ESTATES THAT HAS A RETENTION POND. IT HAS NOWHERE ELSE TO GO, BUT TO THE DOWNSTREAM CHOKE POINT THAT IS DOWN AT 1889. THE WORE COMES -- THE WATER COMES ACROSS THE STREET AND THEN IT BACKS UP AND COMES TO 52B WHERE THESE PEOPLE OVER IN SIESTA LOOP LIVE. THEY CLEANED OUT THE DITCHES THERE. THAT'S FINE. IT CREATED A PHOET. THEY STILL -- IT CREATED A MOTE. IF YOU HAVE A CHOKE POINT, YOU WON'T GET OUT MORE THAN WHAT THE CHOKE POINT WILL ALLOW YOU. AND THAT'S THE SITUATION RIGHT THERE. THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM IS. DOWNSTREAM WE HAVE COUNTY ROAD 50 DITCH THAT HASN'T BEEN CLEANED OUT AND ALSO THE DITCH THAT WE GOT TO WORK ON, THE MAYOR OF ROBS TOWN. THE DITCHES THAT NEED TO BE CLEANED THAT IS STILL Y'ALL'S PROBLEM IS IN NUECES COUNTY AND THAT'S ON COUNTY ROAD 50 AND ALSO DOWNSTREAM OVER THERE ON 1889. THOSE DITCHES HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. SHOULD WE BE HAPPY WITH WHAT HAS BEEN DONE? WE ARE NOT HAPPY. WE WANT TO GET THE REST OF THE WORK DONE AND THEN WE'LL BE HAPPY. IT IS LIKE GETTING YOUR OIL CHANGED AND HAVING THE FILTER CHANGED AS WELL. IT IS NOT A COMPLETE JOB. WE WOULD LIKE FOR Y'ALL TO COMPLETE YOUR JOB. ALL THIS STUDY THAT'S GOING ON, DOESN'T TAKE AN ENGINEER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GOING ON. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR. BOBBIE CHESTNUT FOLLOWED BY -- AND I'M SORRY. IS IT BERNIE? BERNICE? I'M STUCK ON THIS ONE, BUT I WILL HAVE HELP WITH THE NEXT NAME TO PREPARE. >> IS IT THE NAME RIGHT AFTER MINE? >> IT IS LARRY BUCKSCAMPER. >> WOW. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO WORK ON THAT WRITING. >> HE LIVES IN THE SUBDIVISION WHERE I LIVE. >> I LOST MY GOOD GLASSES AND WEARING SOMEBODY ELSE'S AND THAT IS A BIG PROBLEM. ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME. LARRY WILL BE NEXT. PLEASE PROCEED, MR. CHESTNUT. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER AND JUDGE AND COUNTY STAFF. AS MR. PER -- PERKINS REITERATED, THE DITCHES WERE DUG OUT IN FRONT OF OUR HOMES, BUT THE CHOKE POINT HAS NOT BEEN ENLARGED. AND THEN FURTHER DOWN FROM THAT. I SAT UP HERE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND HEARD ALL OF Y'ALL SAY YOU NEED TO WORK TOGETHER. I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT. I HAVE NOT SEEN GOOD TEAMWORK. I AM NOT BEING CRITICAL, BUT IT IS THE FACT THAT I SEE. WE ARE STILL WAITING ON, I GUESS, A FINAL REPORT FROM THE COMPANY ON THE DRAINAGE, BUT OUR PROBLEM IS IMMEDIATE, TODAY. WE HAVE A DRY BAND RIGHT NOW, BUT WE HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF ANY WEEK OF THE HURRICANES COMING IN AND WITH THESE HEAVY RAINS AND FLOODING TO BEGIN AGAIN. I PERSONALLY HAVE NOT HAVE WATER IN MY HOUSE. I HAD IT UP TO MY DOOR. I LIVE ON THE FAR END OF WHERE THE CHOKE POINT IS. IS THERE NOT ANYWAY TO GET A CONTRACTOR? IS THERE ANY MONEY THAT CAN BE ARRANGED TO HIRE A CONTRACTOR SINCE MR. PATEL SAYS THE COUNTY WORKS EMPLOYMENT IS WAY DOWN AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE PEOPLE TO WORK DAILY ON A CERTAIN PROJECT AND THEY SKIP AROUND QUITE A BIT TO GET AT LEAST THESE TWO MAIN DITCHES CLEANED OUT. THERE'S TREES IN THEM THAT NEED TO BE REMOVED. IF NOTHING ELSE, TAKE SOMETHING AND REMOVE THE TREES TO WHERE WE'VE SEEN MATTRESSES UP AGAINST THE TREE WITH TIRES, DOORS, PLYWOOD, COUCHES, BIG SCREEN TV'S AND THESE DITCH THAT'S ARE CREATING THE DAM. WE ARE WONDERING WHERE IT IS COMING FROM THE GOVERNOR AND [00:20:03] SPENDING MORE MONEY ON SURVEYS AND ALL THAT. WE ARE NOT SEEING ANY EQUIPMENT OR ANYBODY THERE. I UNDERSTAND THAT ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS GOT TOGETHER AND DONATED SOME OF THEIR FUNDS TO MR. CHESNEY TO REBUILD BOB HALL PIER, BUT THE PIER DOESN'T HELP THE DRAINAGE. I AM NOT BEING KREUTAL OF THE P. IT IS A FINE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT FOR THE COUNTY AND TOURISM, BUT US CONSTITUENTS NEED A LOT MORE HELP THAN THE TOURISTS NEED HELP. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. LARRY, I APOLOGIZE. I COULDN'T READ IT, BUT IT IS MY EYES AND NOT YOUR WRITING. >> MY WRITING ISN'T THE BEST. >> NO WORRIES, SIR. >> I LIVE IN THE CORNER AT SIESTA LOOP AND THE WATER COMES TO THE BACK OF MY HOUSE OR BEHIND ME OR IN FRONT OF ME. I HAVE A 30 BY 40 WORKSHOP AND IT FLOODS EVERY TIME IT RAINS A LOT. THE DITCHES THAT ARE CLEAN, THAT'S GOOD, BUT LIKE BOBBIE AND LARRY SAID, THE CHOKE POINT IS NOT FIXED. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE THAT DONE. >> THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. AND FINALLY, AND PAT GALLOWAY? GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS PATRICIA GALLOWAY LIVING AT 3648 COUNTY ROAD 52B. I AM THE SECOND HOUSE FROM THIS CHOKE POINT THAT THEY -- THAT THE YOUNG MEN WERE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT THERE -- WE LIVE IN A FISH BOWL IS WHAT THEY HAVE CREATED WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I AM THE SECOND HOUSE DOWN FROM WHERE THE CHOKE POINT IS. WE FLOODED ON MAY 19TH. WE FLOWEDDED ON -- FLOODED ON MAY 8TH. IT WAS TWICE AS DEEP IN MY HOUSE AS IT WAS THE FIRST TIME. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HERE HAS EVER HAD YOUR HOUSE FLOODED, BUT IT IS A HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE. HORRIBLE. SOMEBODY SAID -- I HEARD SOMEBODY SAY A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO, WHY DO THESE PEOPLE KEEP SHOWING UP? WE KEEP SHOWING UP BECAUSE WE NEED THE PROBLEM RESOLVED. WE NEED THAT AT THE CORNER 52B AND SIESTA LOOP, WE NEED THAT CLEANED OUT AND WE NEED THE DRAINAGE TO GO DOWN THE WATER -- TO GO DOWN. THE WATER DISTRICT TO COME OUT AND DRAIN IT AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. EVER SINCE THEY BUILT THE LAKES, THAT WATER FLOODS OVER 1889 AND COMES STRAIGHT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT IS A REAL PROBLEM. AND SOMEBODY SAID, WELL, WE'RE THE ONLY ONES COMPLAINING. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE THAT GET FLOODED. WHY AREN'T THEY HERE? IF THEY DO COME, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE. I HAVE NEVER MET THEM. BUT WE SEEM TO BE THE ONLY ONES THAT KEEP SHOWING UP. I'M PROUD OF THAT. WE HAVE TO KEEP AT THIS BECAUSE WHEN THE HURRICANES COME AGAIN WE ARE GOING TO GET FLOODED AGAIN. AND IT IS GONNA BE WORSE. AND I KNOW THEY DUG THE DITCHES OUT AND WE APPRECIATE THAT, BUT ALL IT DID WAS MAKE A DEEPER FISH BOWL BECAUSE THE WATER STILL CAN'T DRAIN. YEARS AGO THERE USED TO BE CULVERTS UNDER 52B. THEY TOOK ALL OF THE CULVERTS OUT. MY HUSBAND AT THE TIME ARGUES -- ARGUED WITH EVERYBODY HE COULD ABOUT LEAVING THE CULVERTS UNDER THE ROAD BECAUSE IT DRAINED THE WATER OUT FROM THE FISH BOWL. THEY WOULDN'T LISTEN TO HIM. THEY TOOK THEM ALL OUT AND NOW WE HAVE THIS MAJOR PROBLEM. AND, YOU KNOW, I WENT TO A MEETING IN ROBSTOWN A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE, I THINK IT WAS THREE COUNTIES AND THE DRAINAGE AND THE PROBLEMS AND THE STUDIES THAT ARE DONE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STUDIES ARE GOOD FOR IF WE CAN'T GET ANYTHING DONE. THE STUDIES SAY WE'RE OKAY AND THERE IS NOTHING ELSE TO BE DONE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT IS NOT TRUE. YOU HAVE GOT TO CLEAN THOSE DITCHES OUT. LARRY LIVES RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER WHERE THE WATER JUST STOPS. I'M ON THIS SIDE WHERE THE WATER STOPS AND HE IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD. I JUST ASK Y'ALL TO PLEASE ADDRESS THOSE DITCHES BEING CLEANED OUT.ERY MUCH. [00:25:02] >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE, CONNIE? DEPUTY, WOULD YOU MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL GOOD TO GO? I WILL JUST REMIND EVERYBODY THAT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT YOU MAY SAY WHY AREN'T THEY ADDRESSING IT AND WHY AREN'T THEY SAYING ANYTHING? DURING PUBLIC COMMENT WE DON'T NECESSARILY ANSWER BACK, BUT IN THIS MATTER I WILL INVITE THOSE WHO ARE HERE ON DRAINAGE TO PERHAPS LISTEN IN ON THE CONVERSATION WE WILL HAVE DURING OUR GENERAL INFORMATION REPORTS REGARDING FLOODING AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PRESENTATION. FIRST, WE MOVE THROUGH THE GENERAL AGENDA AND IT IS TIME TO GO INTO THE ADOPTING OF THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTIONS AND PROCLAMATION. I WILL START IN RECOGNITION OF WEST OSO'S ISD'S INAUGURAL YEAR OF THEIR YOUTH GOVERNMENT ACADEMY PROGRAM. >> JUDGE, THE STUDENTS ARE SCHEDULED TO BE HERE, BUT THEY HAVE NOT YET ARRIVED. >> LET'S PAUSE. I WAS LOOKING, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY WERE IN THE HALLWAY. JUST GIVE US A -- >> I AM TRYING TO KEEP TRACK. >> BELINDA, LET'S MOVE ON TO [3. In recognition of the month of June 2022 as Elder Abuse Awareness Month.] RECOGNITION OF JUNE 2022 THIS MONTH AS ELDER ABUSE AWARENESS MONTH. WE HAVE SOME VISITORS HERE WITH US. >> WHEREAS OLDER ADULTS AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES OF DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS CONTRIBUTE TO THE WELL BEING OF THIS CITY BY WORKING, CAREGIVING, VOLUNTEERING AND ACTIVELY PRESERVING CUSTOMS, RICH -- RITUALS AND TRADITIONS. AS WE AGE WE BUILD MOMENTUM BY ACCUMULATING KNOWLEDGE, EXPERIENCE, INSIGHT AND WISDOM THAT CAN BE SHARED TO ENRICH OUR COMMUNITY AND WHEREAS ABUSIVE OLDER ADULTS AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IS A COMMUNITY CONCERN AFFECTING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ACROSS TEXAS. WHEREAS ABUSE AFFECTED MORE THAN 118,208 OLDER ADULTS AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IN TEXAS IN 2021 AND WHEREAS ABUSE AGAINST OLDER ADULTS AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IS GROSSLY UNDER REPORTED BECAUSE OF SOCIAL STIGMA, EMBARRASSMENT AND FEAR. AND WHEREAS ADULT ABUSE AFFECTS MEN AND WOMEN OF ALL INCOME AND ABILITY LEVELS, ALL CULTURAL AND ETHNIC BACKGROUNDS AND ALL COMMUNITIES, AND WHEREAS ELDER UH -- ABUSE IS EVERYONE'S BUSINESS. IT IS IMPORTANT TO STRENGTHEN OUR EFFORTS TO PREVENT, REPORT AND ADDRESS ELDER ABUSE. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IN NUECES COUNTY DOES HERE BY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JUNE 2022 TO BE ELDER ABUSE AWARENESS MONTH IN NEW NEW -- IN NUECES COUNTY AND WORK TOGETHER TO REDUCE ABUSE AND NEGLECT OF OLDER ADULTS AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITY. >> THANK YOU. I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> AND IN THE DISCUSSION PERIOD WE DO HAVE SOME GUESTS. BELINDA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO INVITE THEM TO -- WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? >> DON'T BE SHY. COME ON. >> WHILE YOU'RE MAKING YOUR WAY, WE WILL COMMENT. MY GRANDMOTHER IS 99 YEARS OLD. WELL, SHE WILL BENIGN 9 ON AUGUST 5TH, SO I HOPE I WILL GET TO SAY THAT. YOU KNOW, I REALIZE THE FRAILTY OF OUR VULNERABLE ELDERLY. IT IS NOT THEIR BODIES, OFTEN. IT IS THE IDEA THAT SO MANY MEAN PEOPLE OUT THERE PREY UPON THEM IN SO MANY WAYS. ABUSE CAN BE PHYSICAL, IT CAN BE VERBAL AND IT CAN BE SCAMS OUT THERE. I KNOW THAT SHERIFF HOOPER WAS ON THE LINE AND HE WAS ON TELEVISION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO TRYING TO URGE PEOPLE TO NOT BECOME VULNERABLE TO SOME CERTAIN INTERNET AND TELEPHONE SCAMS. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU ARE DOING AND PLEASE OFFER A FEW WORDS. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING US FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE. I KNOW MY CO-WORKERS AND I CARE VERY MUCH ABOUT THE ELDERLY AND THE POPULATION WE WORK WITH, WHETHER IT IS THE ELDERLY KOR DISABLED -- OR DISABLED. WE INVESTIGATE ABUSE, NEGLECT AND EXPLOITATION, BUT BEYOND INVESTIGATING, WE ALSO PROVIDE SERVICES. WE TRY TO ALLEVIATE THE ABUSE, NEGLECT AND EXPLOITATION BY PROVIDING COMMUNITY RESOURCES OR FUNDING WE HAVE THROUGH APS LIKE FOOD, PEST CONTROL, WIPES, DIAPERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. >> AND IF PEOPLE WANT TO REACH OUT TO YOU, THERE IS A NUMBER TO REPORT NEGLECT AND ABUSE, IS [00:30:05] THERE A NUMBER TO REACH YOU AT? >> YES. WE HAVE A 1-800 NUMBER, BUT I DON'T HAVE IT ON ME. >> MAYBE ONE OF YOUR COLLEAGUES -- HERE IT COMES. >> IS THIS A QUIZ? I REMEMBER THAT. >> LET'S GO, JOHN. >> ANYONE CAN MAKE A REFERRAL AND DO IT ANONYMOUSLY OR LEAVE YOUR NAME AND WE'LL CONTACT YOU. YOU CAN CALL OUR STATE HOTLINE NUMBER. IT IS 800-252-5400. >> VERY GOOD. YOU HAD IT. SAME NUMBER. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW AND WHEN WE HAVE THESE PROCLAMATIONS, KNOW THAT WE ARE MESSENGERS. WE HAVE A NEW SYSTEM THAT WE WORK HERE AS FAR AS SOCIAL MEDIA AND WE HOPE YOU CAN PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION TO OUR COMMUNITY. WE WILL ECHO THAT NUMBER AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR CHAMPIONING THIS VERY SERIOUS TOPIC OF ELDER ABUSE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> I. >> OPPOSED SAME SIGN? WOULD YOU LIKE TO FOR THE PURPOSE OF CREATING MORE AWARENESS TAKE A PHOTO AND WE WILL ASK YOU TO COME BACK SO COMMISSIONER CHESNEY CAN SIGN YOUR RESOLUTION, BUT WE WILL PRESENT IT TO YOU RIGHT NOW. >> SHALL WE -- ARE THEY READY? [1. In recognition of West Oso I.S.D.'s inaugural year of their Youth Government Academy program.] WE ARE GOING BACK. APPARENTLY THE STUDENTS ARE HERE. FOR THE CLERK IT IS G1. I'LL PREPARE IT AS THEY WALK IN. AGAIN, THIS IS IN RECOGNITION OF WEST SOSO'S INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT'S YOUTH GOVERNMENT ACADEMY PROGRAM AND THIS IS THEIR INAUGURAL YEAR. THEY HAVE BEEN HERE WITH US AT THE COURTHOUSE THIS WEEK, AND THEY ARE LEARNING ALL ABOUT GOVERNMENT, CIVICS AND IT IS INCREDIBLY EXCITING TO HAVE THEM HERE. WELCOME, EVERYBODY. WE ARE GOING TO ASK THAT YOU DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO MS. BELINDA AND SHE WILL READ A PROCLAMATION. >> WHEREAS NUECES COUNTY WITH THE INVALUABLE HELP WITH THE AMERICAN FEDERATION OF TEACHERS HAS INVITED THE FACULTY AND THE STUDENTS OF WEST OSO HIGH SCHOOL TO CREATE AN ENRICHMENT PROGRAM TO EXCITE FUTURE LEADERS ON THE [00:35:02] ROLE IN GOVERNING THEIR WORLD. AND WHEREAS STUDENT MEMBERS OF THE INAUGURAL YEAR OF YOUTH GOVERNMENT ACADEMY WILL MEET WITH COUNTY AND CITY OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ROLE EACH PLAYS IN GOVERNING OF NUECES COUNTY AND TAKE THAT INFORMATION BACK TO THEIR FAMILY AND PEERS TO DEEPEN COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDING OF THE COUNTY'S ROLE IN GOVERNING, POLICING AND LAW. WHEREAS THE WEST OSO YOUTH ISD ACADEMY PARTICIPANTS WERE HONORED AS FOLLOWED. ARIANA, SYDNEY CANTU, LESLIE DAVE -- DAVIS, VICTORIA GARCIA, ISABEL, LOUIS, ISAEH MOCK, FRANCISCO MORE -- MORRELL LESS, BRIAN SOLICE AND JADA WHIT FIELD. AND NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IN NUECES COUNTY WE RECOGNIZE THE WEST OSO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT TO HELP BUILD AND HELP PARTICIPATE IN THE NUECES COUNTY YOUTH GOVERNMENT ACADEMY AND THE AMERICAN FEDERATION OF THEIR TEACHERS FOR BRINGING ENRICHMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO STUDENTS FOR EXCELLENCE AND EXPLORING THEIR ROLES IN THE FUTURE LEADERS OF THEIR WORLD. >> THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I WILL SECOND. IN THE DISCUSSION, I CAN NISSAN SEE HERE FROM AFT, BUT WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE -- WE HAVE THE SUPERINTENDENT. I'M HAPPY FOR ANYBODY -- WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD? IT IS PROBABLY GOOD YOU START, BUT INTRODUCE YOUR TEAM HERE TO US. WE KNOW THESE AMAZING STUDENTS NOW BY NAME BECAUSE OF THE PROCLAMATION, BUT THERE ARE MANY BEHIND THE SCENES. >> YES. THANK YOU, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS FOR ALLOWING US TO BE WITH HERE THIS MORNING. SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WE STARTED THIS PLAN IN PARTNERSHIP WITH AFT AND JUDGE KLEIN. AND IT HAS BEEN A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN ABOUT YOU AND HOW OUR COUNTY GOVERNMENT WORKS. BY ALL ACCOUNTS, EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE BEEN HEARING IS OUR KIDS ARE KPHAOEUT -- ARE EXCITED. THEY WERE A LITTLE NERVOUS THIS MORNING BECAUSE THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE DOING AT WEST OSO AMONG MANY THINGS LIKE ALL DISTRICTS IS ENRICHMENT ACTIVITIES AND EXPOSING OUR KIDS TO THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. IT IS WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE WORLD AND IN OUR COUNTY. THEY ARE WELL-PREPARED AND READY TO GO. THESE YOUNG PEOPLE APPLIED TO BE WITH US, TO GIVE UP THEIR SUMMER AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THE CITY. WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THEM. WE HAVE TWO TEACHERS HERE. MS. WASHINGTON, WHERE ARE YOU? THERE SHE IS. THEY ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. THEY HAVE BEEN WITH THE KIDS THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND ENJOYING THIS PARTICULAR RELATIONSHIP. AT THE END OF THE DAY OUR GOAL IS TO ALLOW OUR KIDS THROUGH THIS ACADEMY TO TRULY COME BACK TO OUR DISTRICT BECAUSE THEY ARE OUR FUTURE LEADERS OF WEST OSO I SD. WITH THAT IN MIND WE THANK YOU, JUDGE AND THANK THE COMMISSIONERS FOR ALLOWING THIS OPPORTUNITY. WE THANK NANCY VERA AND HER LEADERSHIP AND HER TEAM FOR ALLOWING US TO PARTICIPATE WITH THEM AND JUDGE KLEIN. I CAN'T LEAVE HER OUT. SHE HEARD ME SPEAK WITH JACK AT A PARK RECENTLY AND SHE GOT EXCITED AND I GOT EXCITED AND EVERYBODY IS FIRED UP. WEST OSO IS A WELL-KEPT SECRET IN THIS COMMUNITY AND WE DON'T WANT IT THAT WAY. WE ARE JUST AS COMPETITIVE AND STRONG AS ANY OTHER ISD IN OUR AREA. AND SO WE ASK YOU TO COME OVER AND VISIT ANY TIME. LET US SHOW YOU WHAT WE ARE ABOUT. THESE KIDS ARE A TESTIMONY OF OUR WORK. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SUPERINTENDENT GARCIA. AND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ YOU HAD A CHANCE TO VISIT WITH THEM. WOULD YOU LIKE TO OFFER -- >> I JUST WANT TO SAY, AGAIN, THIS IS THE THIRD DAY, RIGHT? YOU ARE ALMOST THERE. I KNOW YOU ARE GIVING A SPEECH TODAY AND DOING A PRESENTATION. I KNOW THAT'S WHY ARE YOU NERVOUS OR WHATEVER. TAKE A DEEP BREATH, RIGHT? GET READY TO GO. REMEMBER, WHEN YOU WALK OUT OF HEREAFTER THIS WEEK, YOU WILL HAVE A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU WILL TAKE WITH YOU. AND THEN YOU WILL GO BACK TO THE SCHOOL AND USE THAT KNOWLEDGE. [00:40:07] AS COMMISSIONER GARCIA SAID, WE EXPECT TO YOU GO BACK AND BE THE LEADERS OF WEST OSO. YOU WILL BE LEADING. YOU WON'T BE FOLLOWING. YOU WILL BE LEADERS. WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLLOWERS AND WE NEED LEADERS. YOU CAN BECOME A LEADER AND BECOME SUCCESSFUL. STAY WITH IT AND REMEMBER WHAT I SAID. WHAT DOES NIKE SAY? JUST DO IT. GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS YOU. >> THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. I JUST WANTED TO OFFER AND I KNOW YOU HAVE A VERY STRICT SCHEDULE AND AGENDA. JUDGE KLEIN, WELCOME AND THANK YOU FOR BEING -- FOR PROVIDING THIS LEADERSHIP ACADEMY FOR THESE KIDS. IT'S NEVER BEEN MORE IMPORTANT IN OUR NATION'S HISTORY TO UNDERSTAND CIVICS AND MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW THIS, BUT A FUN FACT IS IT WAS JUSTICE SANDRA DAY O'CONNOR WAY BACK -- IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHO SHE S WE WILL MAKE YOU LOOK IT UP. SHE WAS THE FIRST FEMALE SUPREME COURT JUSTICE AND SHE CREATED A GROUP -- A PLATFORM CALLED I CIVICS WHICH IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING RIGHT NOW. IF YOU NEED TOOLS ORIE SOURCES -- OR RESOURCES, JUMP ONLINE. IT IS BEING CARRIED FOR BY ONE OF OUR LAW -- LATINA SUPREME COURT JUSTICES, SONYA SOTO MEYER AND SHE HAS CARRIED THE TORCH OF JUSTICE O'CONNOR AND YOU ARE DOING THAT BY BEING HERE. YOU AND I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO VISIT. I WILL INVITE YOU, IF YOU HAVE TIME TODAY, TAKE A LOOK AT THE TELEVISIONS THAT ARE AROUND ON THE THIRD FLOOR. YOU WILL GET TO SEE OUR COURT IN ACTION. IF YOU LOOK AT OUR AGENDA, WE MAKE -- CAN WE MAKE SURE THEY GET A COPY OF THE AGENDA BEFORE THEY LEAVE TO THEIR TEACHERS? THIS AGENDA, LIKE ALL AGENDAS, BUT THIS ONE HAS SOME REALLY IMPORTANT CIVIC CONCEPTS THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED AND DEBATED AND HOPEFULLY ACTED UPON. IT INCLUDES MENTAL HEALTH AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND THINGS ON EQUALITY. ALL OF THE THINGS YOU MAY FIND INTERESTING. I WANT TO INVITE YOU TO MAKE SURE YOU GET A PICTURE OF THE AGENDA IN YOUR MIND. THIS IS YOUR HOUSE. RIGHT BEFORE YOU WALKED IN, WHAT WE DID PER OUR OWN AGENDA WAS PUBLIC COMMENT. PUBLIC COMMENT IS A TIME WHERE ANYBODY CAN SIGN UP ON A MATTER THAT THEY WANT TO SHARE COMMENTS, OPINIONS, THOUGHTS, CONCERNS, CRITICISMS, PRAISE WITH OUR COURT. I I WANT INVITE YOU AS ANYBODY IS INVITED. AND I WANT TO REOPEN IT AT THIS TIME TO SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE, WHAT YOU'RE LEARNING CONCERNING YOUR COMMUNITY AND WE WILL DO THAT RIGHT AFTER THIS. >> I AM DR. NANCY VERA AND WITH THE PROUD FEDERATION OF TEACHERS. I I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. IT WAS JUDGE KLEIN AND JENNY DORSEY WHO IS WITH YOU WHO INITIATED THIS AND THEY BROUGHT ME ABOARD AND I ABSOLUTELY SAID YES. BUT I DO ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE MY TEAM AND MS. JULIE WASHINGTON. IF YOU DON'T KNOW JULIE, YOU SHOULD KNOW JULIE WASHINGTON. JULIE WASHINGTON IS OUR NATIONAL AMERICAN FEDERATION OF TEACHERS TRAINERS. SHE IS NATIONALLY RENOWNED IN THE AMERICAN FEDERATION OF TEACHERS. SHE HAS TRAVELED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TRAINING. WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE THAT -- WE HOPE NEXT YEAR SHE WILL CALL CORPUS CHRISTI HOME. SHE IS CURRENTLY IN HOUSTON, BUT BASED OUT OF WASHINGTON, D.C. THIS IS JULIE WASHINGTON. SO IN THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THESE STUDENTS. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM AND THEY ARE CONSCIENTIOUS AND COMPASSIONATE. AT THIS POINT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THEM UP AND THEY WILL INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND WE WILL GO YOU, YOU, YOU AND THEN YOU, YOU, YOU AND THEN YOU. GOT IT? GO AHEAD. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. I AM GOING TO BE A SENIOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR AT WEST OSO HIGH SCHOOL. AND MY CONCERN IS THE HOMELESS POPULATION HERE IN CORPUS [00:45:02] CHRISTI. I HAVE A PREEXISTING IDEA SET IN MIND WITH A SMALL HOME COMMUNITY HERE FOR THE HOMELESS PEOPLE. AND I ALSO WANT TO INCLUDE A REHAB CENTER AND ALTHOUGH IT'S EXPENSIVE FOR REMEMBER PEOPLE TO GET REHAB, COLLEGE STUDENTS CAN GO AND VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME TO GET THE REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE TO HELP THESE AND THE SUPPORT HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY CAN HELP THEM RENEW THEIR LIVES. >> YOU'RE DOING GREAT. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'M READY TO SAY AMEN TO EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID SO KEEP GOING. >> SO ANOTHER IDEA I HAD WAS WE CAN INCLUDE A CAFETERIA AND GIVE RESTROOMS AND BATHROOMS FOR THEM TO USE ALTOGETHER. AND THIS CAFETERIA CAN BE WORKED FROM STUDENTS AND HIGH SCHOOLS AND ANYONE WHO HAS THE HEART TO GIVE TO OTHERS AND TO GET COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS. A LOT OF SCHOOLS HAVE THE PROGRAM AVID AND I KNOW THOSE STUDENTS ARE WILLING TO GO OUT AND HELP OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. >> YES. >> VERY GOOD. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. WELL DONE. PRAF -- PRAF >> THIS IS A FUTURE GENERAL CONTRACTOR. SHE WILL INFILTRATE THE PREDOMINANTLY MALE FIELD AND YOU SHOULD ALL WATCH HER. AND I WILL ASK THAT AFTER THEY LEAVE YOU WILL STILL HAVE TIME IN THE ROOM RIGHT NOW ARE MEMBERS OF MHID. IT WOULD BE SO NICE IF YOU WOULD STAND UP AND MEET WITH THEM AND JUST GIVE THEM YOUR CARDS. THEY CAN LEARN -- YOU JUST GOT YOUR FUTURE VOLUNTEERS RIGHT THERE. CHIEF SHOWER, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH BETTER IT GETS COMING FROM THE VOICES OF OUR YOUTH. AND WE HAVE CCPD HERE AND KIND OF THE GALVANIZER BEHIND MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES INCLUDING HOMELESS. ANYWAY, GUYS, YOU HAVE COME TO THE RIGHT SPOT THIS MORNING. GOOD MORNING, SIR. PLEASE PROCEED. >> HELLO, COMMISSIONER. I AM BRIAN SOLIS AND I AM GOING TO BE A JUNIOR AT WEST OSO HIGH SCHOOL. MY IDEA FOR CORPUS CHRISTI WOULD BE A NEWER AND HOPEFULLY MORE EFFICIENT DRUG RE-- REHAPPEN CENTER FOR PEOPLE -- DRUG REHAB CENTER FOR PEOPLE STRUGGLING. A COUPLE IDEAS ARE A MORE COMFORTABLE AND RELAXING ENVIRONMENT THAT CAN ALLOW THEM TO OPEN UP MORE FREELY AND TALK ABOUT THEIR DRUG USAGE. ANOTHER IDEA I HAVE IS FOR VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE EITHER EXPERIENCED WITH DRUG USAGE OR PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED PEOPLE WHO USE DRUGS TO APPLY TO HELP BRING A FAMILIARITY WITH THESE PEOPLE. FINALLY, THERE SHOULD BE EFFICIENT FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE GETS THE BEST OF THEIR EXPERIENCE WHEN THEY ARE WORKING THERE. >> THANK YOU, MR. SOLIS. WELL DONE, SIR. [APPLAUSE]. >> NEXT? GOOD MORNING, MA'AM. >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS SYDNEY CANTU AND I AM A JUNIOR AT WEST OSO HIGH SCHOOL. ONE CHANGE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WITHIN THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI IS THE REVITALIZATION OF THE NORTH AND WEST SIDE OF TOWN. INSTEAD OF KEEPING THE SIZE OF TOWN INDUSTRIALIZED AND RUN DOWN, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE MORE ATTRACTIONS AND NEW HOMES AND NEW PARKS, GYMS AND MORE. A SOLUTION TO THIS COULD BE BUILDING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, SHOPPING CENTERS AND MORE SOURCES OF ENTERTAINMENT. THANK YOU. >> WELL DONE. [APPLAUSE]. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. I AM ARIANA AND I AM GOING TO BE A JUNIOR ATTENDING WEST OSO HIGH SCHOOL. ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAD WAS THE SAFETY IN OUR SCHOOLS. ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING IN THIS COUNTRY LATELY AND ESPECIALLY IN TEXAS. I WOULD LIKE FOR THERE TO BE AN INCREASE IN OUR STUDENT SAFETY [00:50:06] AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND OUR CITY PUTTING AN EFFORT INTO MAKING OUR SCHOOLS SAFER. SOME IDEAS I HAD FOR THIS WAS CHANGING OUR DRILLS. ONE THING WE CAN CHANGE ABOUT IT IS HAVING BARRICADES. I KNOW OUR DRILLS, WE DO NOT BARRICADE. WE JUST HIDE IN THE DARK SPACE AND I DON'T THINK THAT CAN BE ENOUGH ANYMORE. WE NEED TO DO MORE TO ENSURE OUR SAFETY. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> WELCOME, SIR. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS AND COUNTY JUDGE AND BARBARA CANALES. I AM A JUNIOR AT WEST OSO. ONE DAY I WILL RUN FOR CONGRESS. CORPUS CHRISTI IS RANKED NUMBER THREE IN LEAST AFFORDABLE CITIES IN THE NATION. HERE IN CORPUS CHRISTI JUST LIKE ACROSS THE NATION, THE HOUSE MARKET IS AT A HIGH. DUE TO MANY PEOPLE MOVING TO SMALLER CITIES. THE AMOUNT OF HOUSES AND THE PRODUCTION OF HOUSES THAT IS SLOWLY INCREASING IS NOT ENOUGH TO HELP THE STRUGGLING HOUSE MARKET AFFECTING MANY LOW INCOME FAMILIES WHO ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING TO PURCHASE FOOD AND OTHER ESSENTIALS. WE NEED TO ATTRACT THE BIGGER BUSINESSES THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL AND ATTRACT PEOPLE TO CORPUS. I WANT TO POINT OUT THINGS BEING DONE LIKE THE JAMES AVERY FACTORY. BRINGING REVENUE TO A CITY THAT CAN BE INVESTED TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND ENTERTAINMENT AREAS. ATTRACTING PEOPLE, BUSINESSES AND MONEY FOR FAMILIES AND THE CITY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. STKPWORPBG -- GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. >> MY NAME IS FRANCISCO AND MY FAVORITE SUBJECT IS ENGLISH BECAUSE I LIKE READING AND WRITING. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE POTHOLES BECAUSE THEY CAN MESS UP THE CARS AND THE TIRES. THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO FIX THEM. THANK YOU. >> OF COURSE. [APPLAUSE]. >> GOOD MORNING. >> TKPWOERPBG. >> MY -- GOOD MORNING. >> MY NAME IS VICTORIA AND I AM A JUNIOR AT WEST OSO. ONE THING THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION IS THE HOMELESS. I WOULD LIKE SHELTERS IN EACH PART OF THE CITY WHERE THEY CAN HAVE A PLACE TO BE SAFE AT AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE STUFF THAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN THIS WORLD. A PLACE FOR THEM TO CALL HOME. ANOTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE MORE BEAUTIFUL IS THE LITTERING. TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE GATHERING THAT WE CAN ALL GO AND PICK UP THE TRASH AND JUST HELP OUT AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH. THE WAY WE CAN HELP BOTH OF THOSE PROBLEMS IS TO HAVE THE HOMELESS COME AND CONTRIBUTE TO US AND TO THE COMMUNITY IS PICKING IT UP AND MAKING IT A BEAUTIFUL PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND EVENTUALLY CALL THEMSELVES HOME. AND WE CAN HELP THE HOMELESS BRING TOGETHER AND GIVE A MINIMUM WAGE TO HELP THEM GET ON THEIR FEET AND EVENTUALLY HAVE A PLACE TO CALL THEIR HOME AND BUILD THEMSELVES A FAMILY AND EVENTUALLY BECOME ONE OF Y'ALL AND HAVE A PLACE THAT THEY SUCCEED IN LIFE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]. >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. >> I AM A JUNIOR AT WEST OSO HIGH SCHOOL. >> WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS MAKE OUR CITY SAFER. I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE DRILLS TO EVERY OTHER YEAR. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD BULLETPROOF LOCKS AND CODES ON THE DOORS SO THE DOORS WON'T GET SHOT DOWN. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. GOOD MORNING. I AM LEAH CARPENTER AND A JUNIOR AT WEST OSO HIGH SCHOOL. ONE THING I WAS THINKING ABOUT IS WE ARE NOT TAUGHT ABOUT DIFFERENT CULTURES OF THE WORLD. WE CELEBRATE BLACK HISTORY MONTH IN FEBRUARY AND HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER, BUT AFTER THAT, IT IS OVER AND WE DON'T GO DEEPER INTO DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT. WE CAN IMPLEMENT LEARNING ABOUT DIFFERENT CULTURES OF THE WORLD SPECIFICALLY IN A CLASS THAT IS EXISTING OR CREATE A CLASS THAT [00:55:03] IS SPECIFICALLY FOR LEARNING OF THE DIFFERENT CULTURES OF THE WORLD TO GET A BETTER IDEA OF THE PEOPLE SURROUNDING US AND JUST TO HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE. SOME PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DEAL WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS OR HOW THEY CELEBRATE HOLIDAYS AND HOW THEY INTERACT WITH THEIR FAMILIES. I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO LEARN AT SCHOOL. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONER'S COURT. MY NAME IS ISABEL AND I AM A SENIOR AT WEST OSO HIGH SCHOOL. THE CHANGE I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS THE LOW INCOME FAMILIES HAVING TROUBLE FOR DOING PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING. YES, WE HAVE MEDICAID, MEDICARE, WELFARE, BUT THERE ARE SO MANY STANDARDS YOU HAVE TO MEET BEFORE YOU ARE CONSIDERED FOR THE PROGRAMS. I WANT TO SPECIFICALLY SPEAK ON TEEN MENTAL HEALTH. THERE ARE SO MANY LIKE -- LIKE IT TAKES TIME TO GET LIKE SET UP WITH THE THERAPISTS AND TALK TO COUNSELING SERVICES. APPOINTMENTS ARE FULL AND YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES A PERSON HAS TRIED. ONE IDEA I HAD WAS PUTTING -- COMING UP WITH PROGRAMS AND LIKE AA WE DON'T HAVE MUCH OF THAT HERE AND ALCOHOLICS, LIKE PROGRAMS LIKE THAT KIDS CAN JOIN AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE COST OR IF THEY EVEN QUALIFY FOR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]. >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONER. I AM ALASHA REID AND I WILL BE A SENIOR AT WEST OSO HIGH SCHOOL THIS YEAR. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT PRISON REFORM. I FEEL PRISONS ARE VERY, VERY CONSIDERED -- THEY ARE LOOKED AT AS ANIMALISTIC PLACES. I THINK GED PROGRAMS OR A TRADE SCHOOL SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED IN OUR PRISONS AS WELL AS LIMITATION ON THE ISOLATION OF PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH. IT'S PROFESSIONALLY PROVEN THAT PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES WORK BETTER IN GROUPS, AND I THINK THE PRISON SHOULD NOT ISOLATE SOMEONE JUST BECAUSE OF SOMETHING THEY HAD GOING ON IN THEIR OWN HEAD. I ALSO THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR PRISONS TO HAVE WAYS FOR PRISONERS TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES CREATIVELY. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD ALSO BUILD REHAB CENTERS FOR PEOPLE WHO JUST GOT OUT OF PRISON BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THE CITY KIND OF SETS THEMSELVES UP FOR FAILURE. WHEN PRISONERS GET OUT, THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO GO, AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD. WE SHOULD BUILD PLACES FOR THEM TO GO AND APPLY FOR JOBS AND THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE WHEN A PRISONER GETS OUT THEY APPLY FOR A JOB AND THEY DON'T GET IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN IN PRISON. I THINK THE CITY REALLY SETS THEMSELVES UP FOR THAT ONE. AND THE BEST THINGS ABOUT EVERYTHING I HAVE LISTED TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN THE PRISON IS IT COULD BE USED AS A REWARD PROGRAM OR INCENTIVE PROGRAM. IF A PRISONER THINKS MAYBE -- AND IT WILL HELP WITH THE BEHAVIOR PROBLEM IN THE PRISON TOO. IF A PRISONER THINKS, OH, IF I BEHAVE I CAN GO AND I CAN LEARN HOW TO BE A CARPENTER IN THIS PROGRAM THEY HAVE HERE. AND I ALSO THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTATION OF GROUP THERAPY AND PASTORS SHOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO GO INTO PRISONS SPECIFICALLY PASTORS WITH EXPERIENCE IN PRISON. THERE IS UH HROET -- THERE IS A LOT OF THOSE AROUND THE WORLD AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED IN OUR PRISONS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> WE ARE FINISHED, BUT JUDGE KLEIN WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING. WEREN'T THEY GREAT? >> FANTASTIC. >> WEST OSO! >> JUDGE CANALES AND COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING OUR KIDS TO MAKE THEY PRESENTATION. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON MONDAY MORNING TO WELCOME THE KIDS. IF THIS IS OUR FUTURE, I AM EXCITED TO LIVE IN THE FUTURE. THESE KIDS HAVE SOME OF THE BEST IDEAS I HAVE HEARD LATELY BY WATCHING THE NATIONAL POLITICS, LOCAL POLITICS. I AM SO PROUD OF THESE KIDS. THIS IS NOT A SCRIPT THAT WAS WRITTEN FOR THEM. THIS IS THEM. THIS IS THEM TALKING. THEY ARE READY TO WORK FOR OUR [01:00:03] COMMUNITY AND FOR US. PLEASE GIVE THEM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. [APPLAUSE]. >> THANK YOU. FANTASTIC. >> JUDGE, CAN I SAY SOMETHING? >> YES. >> I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE EVERYBODY THAT GOT THIS TOGETHER. I HAVE KNOW MR. GARCIA FOR A LONGTIME. WE WENT TO THE SAME ELEMENTARY AND HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN OUTSTANDING PERSON. I WANT TO TELL THESE YOUNG PEOPLE, YOU WILL GRADUATE AND DO GREAT THINGS, BUT DON'T FORGET CORPUS CHRISTI. COME BACK HOME AND IMPLEMENT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. YOU MAKE ME SO PROUD. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> I. >> OPPOSED SAME SIGN? >> WHAT WE WOULD LOVE TO DO NOW BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE FUTURE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND DEFINITELY A CONGRESSMAN AND MOST LIKELY -- >> JUDGES. >> YEAH, JUDGES, THE PILLARS OF THE COMMUNITY, I WOULD LIKE TO MEMORIALIZE THIS SO I CAN SAY I KNEW YOU WHEN. WOULD YOU HONOR US WITH A PHOTO? SOME OF YOU CAN COME BACK HERE AND MAYBE SOME OF YOU UP FRONT. JUDGE KLEIN, WE CAN BRING THE ADMINISTRATION AS WELL WITH JENNY DORSEY. I MEAN, THIS IS A PICTURE YOU WILL WANT TO HANG IN YOUR OFFICES. AND FOR MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE, IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU CAN REACH OUT TO THIS GROUP, WILL YOU MAKE CERTAIN THAT YOU TOUCH BASE WITH THEIR TEACHERS THAT ARE HERE WITH THEM? YOU CAN MAKE A BIG IMPACT ON THEIR LIVES. [APPLAUSE]. >> WELL, AS WE GET OUR QUORUM [01:05:57] BACK ON THE BENCH, THAT WAS WELL WORTH YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. FOR THOSE OF YOU HERE ON THE AGENDA ITEMS THIS WAS NOT PLANNED. I PROMISE YOU. THAT IS THE TRUTH AS IT IS SPOKEN THAT WE SHOULD BE LISTENING TO. SO I AM JUST LIKE -- I THINK THE BISHOP JUST SET THE TONE THIS MORNING. HE IS BRINGING US BLESSINGS BECAUSE THESE ARE NOT ELECTIVES. THESE ARE THE CHILDREN THAT UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR PROBLEMS ARE AND THEY ARE ASKING US TO ADDRESS THEM. IT IS PRETTY WONDERFUL WHAT WE JUST HEARD. I NEED THREE PHYSICAL COMMISSIONERS HERE. [4. In recognition of the week of June 3rd through June 11th, 2022 as PRIDE Week.] >> SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE ITEM WHICH IS G4 IN RECOGNITION OF THE WEEK OF JUNE 3RD THROUGH JUNE 11TH AS PRIDE WEEK IN OUR COMMUNITY AND BELINDA, WE'LL ALSO HAVE THE RESOLUTION THAT IS IMPORTANT -- LET'S JUST MAKE SURE THE DOORS ARE CLOSED. CAN YOU TELL THEM TO TAKE IT DOWN A NOTCH WITH THE VOLUME. THERE IT IS. THANK YOU. >> A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION IS CELEBRATING THE 6TH ANNUAL PRIDE WEEK JUNE 3RD THROUGH JUNE 11TH, 2022, WHERE IT IS DEDICATED TO COMMEMORATING THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE U.S. SUPREME COURT'S MARRIAGE EQUALITY RULING AND HONORING THE PAST CONTRIBUTIONS AND CELEBRATING THE FUTURE OF LESBIAN, GAY, BY SEXUAL, TRANSGENDER, INTERSECTION, ASEXUAL COMMUNITY AND PRIDE CORPUS CHRISTI IS FOCUSED ON COMMEMORATING AND EDUCATING AND CELEBRATING LGBTQIA QUALITY AND HUMAN RIGHTS. PRIDE CELEBRATES LOVE AND DIVERSITY IN THE COASTAL BEND, THE STATE, THE NATION AND THE WORLD. AND WHEREAS PRIDE CELEBRATIONS WORLDWIDE ATTRACT MILLIONS OF LGBTQIA INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES, ALLIES AND FRIENDS TO PARADES, PICNICS, PARTIES, WORKSHOPS, SYMPOSIUMS, CONCERTS AND MEMORIALS. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF NUECES COUNTY DOES HERE BY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF JUNE 3RD, THROUGH THE 11TH, 2022 AS PRIDE WEEK IN NUECES COUNTY AND ENCOURAGES ALL CITIZENS IN NUECES COUNTY TO JOIN US IN CELEBRATING THE DIGNITY, STRENGTH, PASSION, DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT OF THE LGBTQIA COMMUNITY IN THE COASTAL VENUE. >> IS THERE A MOTION FOR SUCH A PROCLAMATION? >> MOTION. >> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE -- THANK YOU. AND WE WILL ASK YOU ALSO TO JUST IDENTIFY. >> OKAY. MY NAME IS JONATHON SWINDLE AND I AM THE -- A LITTLE CREEKY NOISE. I AM THE BOARD PRESIDENT OF PRIDE CORPUS CHRISTI. AND I AM A NATIVE OF BISHOP, TEXAS, BORN AND RAISED. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT LEADERSHIP HERE THIS MORNING WITH THE GROUP THAT WAS JUST BEFORE US. I STAOULLY MOVED AWAY -- I ACTUALLY MOVED AWAY AND WENT TO UNIVERSITY OF MAINE AND THEN WENT TO COLORADO. I CAME BACK AND CONDUCTED A BUSINESS HERE FOR 10 YEARS AND I HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK THROUGH NON-PROFITS HERE IN THE COMMUNITY. I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE AND FOSTER CORPUS CHRISTI AND THE COUNTY OF NUECES COUNTY AS A PLACE THAT IS AFFIRMING AND WELCOMING TO OUR FUTURE AND OUR YOUTH SO THEY KNOW THIS IS A PLACE THEY CAN PROSPER. [01:10:02] I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND FOR THE VISIBILITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE HERE AT THIS TIME. IT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED AND VERY IMPORTANT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> I. >> OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. ONE -- WONDERFUL. I SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS TO THE LAST GROUP, BUT ALL OF THESE RESOLUTIONS CAN BE PICKED UP, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, AFTER COMMISSIONER CHESNEY ASSIGNS THEM. WE WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT IT TO YOU AT THIS MOMENT. >> TO CONTINUITY WE ARE TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE LIMITED PURPOSE OF MR. VASA VISITING WITH US. GOOD MORNING. THERE IS A CLOCK RIGHT THERE FOR YOUR VIEWING AND WE ASK THAT YOU JUST RESPECT THE TIME AND I'LL TRY TO HONOR KEEPING ALL OF YOUR WORDS FROM BEING INTERRUPTED. >> MY NAME IS HER BE -- HERBIE GARZA. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS AND BARBARA CANALES. I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF JJ SERZA. HERE IS THE COORDINATOR TO THE VETERANS AFFAIRS ON RTA AND HE IS GREAT. MATTER OF FACT, HE IS NUMBER ONE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. I THINK THEY HAVE 250 PEOPLE THEY REPRESENT FOR CLAIMS AND HE IS DOING A GOOD JOB. HE STEPPED UP AT THE V.A. AT THE HOSPITAL. THAT'S GREAT. I'M HERE BECAUSE I THINK HE SHOULD DESERVE A BETTER SALARY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT I THINK LIKE 90,000 BECAUSE HE DOES TWO JOBS. HE DOES A LOT OF STUFF. IT IS A LOT OF WORK. I KNOW YOU ALL DO A LOT OF WORK TOO. I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE TIME. RIGHT NOW I HOLD DIFFERENT POSITIONS. I AM A ADVICE COMMANDER OF THE GF1 AND AMERICAN LEGION AND LETTER CARRIERS UNION. I AM TRYING TO REMEMBER ALL OF THE PLACES I HAVE. I HAVE A LOT OF POSITIONS. OH, AND I AM A MEMBER OF LULAC, COUNCIL NUMBER ONE. AND I WANT TO SAY THAT I HOPE YOU ALL LOOK INTO JJ'S SALARY. I WAS THINKING LIKE 90,000 BECAUSE IT IS QUITE A BIT THAT HE DOES FOR A LOT OF CLAIMS. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT ANYTHING ABOUT THE VETERANS HE WILL DO IT. EVEN THE CEMETERY AND EVERYTHING. IT IS GREAT WHAT THEY ARE DOING [01:15:01] HERE. THE PERSON THAT HAD DREAMS WAS THREE DREAMS. NUMBER ONE THE VETERANS. ANYBODY CAN GO. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A VETERAN. YOU HAVE ALL OF THE RESOURCES THERE. THE FOURTH IS THE HOSPITAL. WE REALLY NEED THE HOSPITAL. THEY SAY SEPTEMBER, BUT NOW IT IS DECEMBER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> AND I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC [1. Discuss disaster preparedness and response, including matters related to COVID-19, Emergency Orders, severe weather, flooding, drainage, economic recovery, state and federal assistance, American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA), Emergency Rental Assistance Program (ERAP), and infrastructure status, and other related matters.] COMMENT AT THIS TIME AND GO RIGHT INTO -- I DON'T SEE LUIS HERE. THERE, RIGHT THERE. WE HAVE ONE BLOCKING MY VIEW. LOWRY -- LUIS, GOOD MORNING. IT DAWNS ON ME WE ALWAYS ASK YOU TO WAIT AND I THINK LAST TIME WE SLID OVER THE DISASTER INFORMATION REPORT IN PREPAREDNESS. WOULD YOU GIVE US AN OVERVIEW AND JUST SO THE CLERK NOWS THIS IS ITEM H1 AND IT IS REGARDING A RECOVERY RESPONSE PREPAREDNESS ON ALL OF THE DIFFERENT MATTERS KWHRU -- INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO DRAINAGE, ECONOMIC RECOVERY AND STATE AND FEDERAL ASSISTANCE. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, COURT. GOOD MORNING JUDGE. I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO PUT OUT TODAY. WHAT I WILL DO IS TALK MORE ABOUT WHAT'S COMING UP UP FOR WEATHER AND A POSSIBILITY OF TALKING ABOUT AT SOME FUTURE POINT EXTENDING THE BURN BAN. LET'S GO DOWN TO THE WEATHER QUICKLY. WE CAN EXPECT THIS WEEK THE AVERAGE HIGH TO BE ABOUT 92 AND A HEAT INDEX OF ABOUT 101. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR US AS A COUNTY? WHEN IT GETS TO THOSE TYPES OF TEMPERATURES WE USUALLY LIKE TO BE WITH AIR CONDITIONING AND FANS. SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE THAT. THOSE PEOPLE SUSCEPTIBLE OF THE HIGH HEAT, CHECK ON THEM. YOU CAN ALSO TALK ABOUT THE KBDI. THAT'S THE INDEX WE USE TO MEASURE WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO HAVE A BURN BAN. USUALLY ABOUT 500 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BURN BAN FOR THE SAME PERIOD OF TIME. RIGHT NOW THE KPDI AVERAGE IS 499. WITH THE UPCOMING WEATHER AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE JULY 4TH COMING UP, THERE IS NOT PROJECTED TO BE OR FORECASTED TO BE ANY LONG-TERM PRECIPITATION COMING TO OUR AREA. THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE BURN BAN. YESTERDAY WE HAD A CASE OF MONKEYPOX. IT HAS BEEN OUT THERE IN THE ATMOSPHERE. I DON'T KNOW VERY MUCH ABOUT THAT CASE OR WHERE IT COMES FROM OR WHEN IT STARTED. I WILL GET AN UPDATE AND SEND IT OUT TO THE COURT SO YOU CAN HAVE IT. WE ARE STILL IN THE PANDEMIC. COVID-19 IS STILL HAPPENING. WE HAD AN INCREASE OF COVID-19 NUMBERS IN NUECES COUNTY AS WELL. BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU GO OUT. I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS. WE ARE IN THE HURRICANE SEASON. THE USE OF REVERSE ALERT IS WHAT WE USE AS A NOTIFICATION SYSTEM. IF YOU DON'T HAVE REVERSE ALERT ON YOUR PHONE, YOU CAN FIND INFORMATION ON THE TABLES OUTSIDE. YOU CAN GRAB A CARD. YOU HAVE A QR CODE, YOU CAN SCAN IT AND YOU CAN MAKE IT HOWEVER YOU WANT TO TAKE THE INFORMATION. YOU CAN USE THE INFORMATION IF YOU WANT IT BY TEXT OR PHONE OR EMAIL, YOU CAN DICTATE HOW YOU WANT TO RECEIVE THE INFORMATION. AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE IT SO YOU CAN TURN IT OFF AT A CERTAIN TIME. SO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT ABOUT 7:00 IN THE MORNING YOU CAN SHUTDOWN THE ALERT SYSTEM. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS TO THINK ABOUT. STEER -- THE TEXAS STATE EMERGENCY SYSTEM, THAT'S HOW WE IDENTIFY PEOPLE WHO ARE MEDICALLY TPRAPBLG -- FRAGILE. THE STEER PROGRAM IS A GREAT PROGRAM, BUT THE INFORMATION IS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. IF YOU HAVEN'T UPDATED YOUR STEER AFTER JULY 1ST, YOU WILL HAVE TO DO SO BECAUSE THE STATE REGISTRY WILL DUMP THAT INFORMATION AND YOU WILL HAVE TO COME BACK IN AND RE-REGISTER. IF YOU NEED INFORMATION ON STEER, THAT INFORMATION IS ON THE TABLE OUT HERE. IT HAS A QR CODE AND YOU CAN DOWNLOAD IT. ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE MEDICALLY FRAGILE OR YOU NEED HELP IN AN EVACUATION. UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU REGISTER IN STEER YOU MAY NOT GET HELP FROM THE COUNTY FOR YOUR EVACUATION. IT IS DEPENDENT ON IF WE HAVE AN [01:20:04] EVACUATION ORDER. AND THEN THE EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IS STILL OUT THERE AND I KNOW PEOPLE ARE CALLING IN TO CORPUS CHRISTI AND THEY MAY HAVE GOTTEN THIS GLITCH FIXED. YOU CAN CALL INTO CORPUS CHRISTI AND CALL INTO THE COUNTY AND WE WILL DIRECT YOU TO WHERE YOU NEED TO GET HELP. >> LUIS, GOING BACK TO STEER, THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT MAYBE HAVE PEOPLE IN THEIR FAMILY ON OXYGEN, WOULD THAT QUALIFY? >> YES, JUDGE. AND A LOT OF TIMES YOU HAVE -- SOME DIALYSIS LOCATIONS WILL HAVE A STEER REGISTRY THERE AND YOU CAN REGISTER THROUGH DIALYSIS. AND SOME -- I DON'T KNOW ABOUT TOO MANY MEDICAL FACILITIES HAVE A STEER REGISTRATION FACILITY. IF YOU NEED HELP FOR MAYBE DURING THE TIME WHEN THERE IS NO POWER OR THERE IS FLOODING AND WE NEED TO GET YOU OUT OF THERE OR WE NEED TO FLEX SOME ASSETS TO YOU TO MAKE SURE YOU STAY ALIVE, WE CAN HELP YOU. WE WILL GIVE YOU A PHONE NUMBER AND WE CAN CONTACT YOU IN CASE OF THE EMERGENCY. >> THINK OF IT AS LIKE OUR OWN NUECES COUNTY LIFE ALERT SYSTEM. AND WHAT LOUIS IS SAYING IS WE -- IF WE ORDER AN EVACUATION ORDER, THAT'S WHEN THAT MAY COME INTO PLACE. THERE MAY BE SCENARIOS WHERE THERE IS NO ORDER, BUT YOU STILL WANT TO MOVE, WHILE WE MAY NOT BE UNDER THAT SAME -- WHILE WE MAY NOT HAVE THE EVACUATION LOCATION OF THE FAIRGROUNDS, WE WOULD STILL MAKE CERTAIN THAT YOU GET THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED. IT IS A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO USE THIS HURRICANE SEASON AS YOUR PLANNING SEASON SO IT IS NOT JUST THE FAMILY PLAN, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TARGET ALL OF THESE FOLKS THAT ARE MEDICALLY TPRAPBLG -- FRAGILE. WE SAW THIS DURING WINTER STORM AND IT IS A HUGE ISSUE AND WE NEED TO BE READY FOR THIS EXTREME WEATHER SEASON. BY THE WAY, THIS HEAT IS VERY SERIOUS. BE VERY CAREFUL OUT THERE. THANKS FOR THE UPDATE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR LOUIS BEFORE I TURN TO ONE POTENTIAL DIRECTIVE? ANY QUESTIONS, GUYS? >> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> GO AHEAD. >> LOUIS, LAST MONTH DURING THE MEETING I ASKED DEL THE QUELL AND HE -- THE QUESTION AND HE SAID IT HAD TO COME FROM YOU. ON THE DAILY BURN RATE, $881.50 AND THEY HAD EMPLOYEE BENEFITS 21-POINT -- 21.56%. THE TOTAL WAS $1,072.80. WHAT WAS THAT FOR? >> I DON'T KNOW, COMMISSIONER. >> Y'ALL WILL HAVE TO GET THAT INFORMATION. I DIDN'T ASK THAT. IT WAS ON THE AGENDA AT THE TIME OF DISCUSSION AND WE'LL GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. IT IS IN A SPREAD SHEET WITH ABOUT 55 MILLION BITS. >> I DID ASK YOU AND YOU SAID TO ASK LOUIS. >> I DIDN'T SAY LOUIS. >> YEAH, YOU DID. >> NO, I DID NOT. >> YOU HAVE A QUESTION. AND HE HAS THE POTENTIAL ANSWER. >> CAN YOU LET ME KNOW? >> HE WILL CLARIFY. YOU HAVE A QUESTION AND HE HAS THE POTENTIAL ANSWER. LET ME GO BACK TO WHAT I THINK WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION WHICH IS WE ARE IN HURRICANE SEASON. WE SEEM TO HOVER BETWEEN EXTREME HEAT AND DROUGHT AND EXTREME WEATHER AS IN RAINS THAT CAUSE FLOODING. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON NEXT AGENDA A AGENDA ITEM FROM EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT THAT DEALS WITH THIS CHOKE POINT AND THE BACK UP ON 52B AND AS WELL AS, I GUESS IT WOULD BE, COUNTY ROAD 50 AS WELL. IN OTHER WORDS, I'M TIRED TOO. AS THEY SAY, I'M MAD TOO, EDDIE. I WANT THIS AREA CLEANED AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYWHERE AND WE HAVE COMPLETELY EXHAUSTED THE REMEDIES WE HAVE HERE INTERNATIONALLY. I AM LOOKING FOR A SIMPLE AGENDA ITEM THAT ALLOWS FOR THE CLEANING OF THIS BIG VEGETATION IN THESE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED TIME AND TIME AGAIN. BEFORE WE GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE THESE EXTREME TROPICAL SYSTEMS COME DUMPING A LOT OF [01:25:04] RAIN AND TIMES THEY GOT PROTESTED AND TO THE LET UP. [I. Accept the following Minutes:] [2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.] [2. Receive presentation regarding development of a comprehensive collaborative behavioral mental health restoration program; Discuss and consider approving an Order transferring County funds to a Mental Health account.] [01:56:57] AND THEY WENT STRAIGHT BACK TO THE STREET WITHOUT ANYBODY THERE [01:57:01] AT THAT DOOR TO SAY CAN WE HELP YOU. [01:57:05] CAN WE DIRECT YOU TO SERVICES. THAT IS A GAP. [01:57:08] SO WE WILL GO OVER WHAT -- HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT GAP? [01:57:13] WE PUT SOMEBODY THERE. SOUND LIKE A QUICK FIX. [01:57:17] WELL, THAT MEANS WE NEED SOME INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT MEANS WE HAVE PEOPLE THERE 24 HOURS. A AND THE GOAL THEN HAVING SOBERING DE TOX. IF INDIVIDUALS ARE BROUGHT THERE FOR PUBLIC INTOXICATION FOR OTHER SMALLER CRIMES, WE HAVE SOMETHING THERE TO ADDRESS THEM. WE HAVE SMART MINDS AND HOW TO GET THE MOST APPROPRIATE PLACE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. BUT IN MOVING FORWARD, WE ALSO NEED TO KNOW THAT THOSE WHO DON'T QUITE QUALIFY TO GO THROUGH THIS OTHER OPTION OF DOOR NUMBER TWO, PREARREST JUST BECAUSE OF THE TYPICAL LEVEL OF CRIME. IF THEY ARE MAGISTRATED OUT AND THEY STILL NEED HELP AND NEED SOMEONE TO ADDRESS THAT NEED #. IF SOMEONE NEEDS CONTINUED TREATMENT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO SEND THEM BACK OUT. CENTECOR TO HAVE HOUSING. MAKING MORE SPACES AVAILABLE. MAKING MORE SPACES AVAILABLE FOR VETERANS. AS I SAID, A LOT OF OTHER COMPONENT THAT'S COME INTO PLAY H HERE. THIS WILL BE PART OF THE RESTORATION CENTER. ALL THE FROM A NEEDED. BUT WE CAN'T STOP IT THERE BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE INDIVIDUALS. I AM GOING TO NAME ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL. AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS IN - -- GW CROOK CAN BRING THIS TO MY ATTENTION. AN INDIVIDUAL THERE 500 DAYS. 500 DAYS NEEDING MEDICAL CARE. ROUGHLY NEARLY $100,000 FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL. THE INDIVIDUAL WAS RELEASED. TWO MONTHS LATER, THEY RETURNED. THAT IS WHY I AM ALSO PROPOSING IF WE ARE THINKING OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND THINKING OF HOW WE CAN ADD SOME FUNDING TOWARD INFRASTRUCTURE, WE ALSO THINK OF A RE-ENTRY CENTER. RE-ENTRY CENTERS IN HARRIS COUNTY. AND EVEN RE-ENTRY IN BEXAR COUNTY. IT IS ALL PART OF IT. I HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHERE WE COULD BE. A LOT OF THE INDIVIDUALS THEY ARE GOING TO NEED -- THEY ARE GOING TO NEED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES. THEY WILL NEED CRISIS SERVICES. BUT OF COURSE A LOT OF FURTHER COLLABORATIONS THAT WE WILL NEED THERE. WORKFORCE COLLABORATIONS. THE DISCUSSIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE WITH WORK FORCE COLLABORATIONS. HAVING COLLABORATIONS FOR GETTING INDIVIDUALS TO BE READY TO BE PART OF THE WORKFORCE. SO THAT'S ALL THERE. BUT I THINK OF RE-ENTRY TOO. BECAUSE IT WAS RECENTLY BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT A NEED OF THIS, NOT JUST FOR ADULTS BUT ALSO WITH OUR YOUTH. [02:00:02] FROM THE JUVENILE JUSTICE CEN CENTER. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUDGE, CAN I ASK A QUESTION REAL QUICK? >>JUDGE CANALES: OF COURSE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, SIR, I SAID OF COURSE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DIDN'T HEAR. I APOLOGIZE. WHAT EXACTLY IS THE ASK TODAY ON THIS BECAUSE SAYS IMPROVING AN ORDER. WHAT IS THE ASK TODAY. >> HOLD ON. >> ANY DISCUSSION OF THIS NEEDS TO BE HELD IN EXECUTIVE SECTION. >> A FUNDING ASK. >> HE CAN DO HISTORIC PRESENTATION ANY DISCUSSION WILL BE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> WILL WE BE GET TO THIS. OBVIOUSLY AN ASK AND I READ THE PRESENTATION AND IT IS VERY GOOD. BUT I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE GET TO THE POINT TO MAKE ACTION OR DON'T. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AGREE. 10:45 AND WE HAVE A VERY LONG AGENDA BEFORE WE GET TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. IF YOU WERE INTERESTED IN GETTING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION, LET'S SAY AROUND. I AM BEING ADVISE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE TAMPA WOULD THAT BE AMENABLE TO YOU! >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE GOING. I AM NOT TRYING TO CIRCUMVENTS YOUR MEETING ORDER IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK IT FAIR TO ANNOUNCE NOON AND DO THAT AT EXECUTIVE SESSION AND IS THAT GOOD FOR EVERYBODY? I THINK THAT WILL HELP THEM A LITTLE BIT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HOW MUCH LONGER ON THE PRESENTATION? >> TWO MINUTES. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: OKAY, THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU FOR THAT. MENTIONING THAT FINAL THING. TO TRY TO USE THE APPROPRIATE LANGUAGE WITHOUT STEPPING ON THE FINANCIAL PORTION OF IT. THE GOAL HERE IS THAT WE HAVE PROJECTS HERE THAT ARE -- THAT ARE POTENTIAL TO GET US TO YOU A RESTORATION CENTER. THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING FOR IT. AS YOU SEE HERE, BUILDING A COLLABORATIVE. THAT IS WHAT I AM ASKING. BUILD A COLLABORATIVE FOR THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE ROOM. IF THERE IS ANY FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THIS INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT YOU A LOT THESE INDIVIDUALS TO COME TOGETHER AND DETERMINE WHAT WOULD BE WITH THE BEST PROCESS FOR THAT. AND -- BUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING -- IN DOING THAT, YOU ARE ALLOWING THAT TO WORK WITH THEIR STRENGTHS. YOU ARE ALLOWING THEM TO LEVERAGE THE RESOURCES THEY CURRENTLY HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT -- WHATEVER FUNDING IS AVAILABLE. WHATEVER AMOUNT IS AVAILABLE ON HOW THEY CAN BEST ADDRESS THESE FROM PROGRAMS. AND WE CAN START GETTING US TOWARD THAT RESTORATION. SO THAT IN THE END IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: GREAT PRESENTATION. GREAT SLIDES. THE LAST SLIDE IS THE BEST SLIDE BECAUSE IT GETS TO THE CRUX OF THE MATTER. I HAVE ONE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION. IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE LONG, BUT MEANT TO CREATE AWARENESS FOR OUR AUDIENCE AND THE COURT. YOU ARE AN EXPERT. THAT IS WHY THESE MODELS HAVE BEEN VETTED BY YOU, RIGHT. AND ALSO YOUR DEPUTY HAS ACTUAL EXPERIENCE WITH THE RESTORATION CENTER IN BEXAR COUNTY. YOU ARE NOT PROPOSING SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NOT BRING EXPERTISE OUT FROM THE NUECES COUNTY PERSPECTIVE? >> NO. FROM THIS -- AS I SAID, THIS STEMS FROM WHAT IS IN THE MEADOWS REPORT. YOU MENTIONED MY DEPUTY DIRECTOR. YES, MY DEPUTY DIRECTOR IS ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE FORMATION OF THE RESTORATION CENTER FOR BEXAR COUNTY. SO PLENTY OF KNOWLEDGE BEHIND THIS. >>JUDGE CANALES: TO LAY THAT PREDICATE. IN THAT CASE I AM GOING TO ASK YOU TO HOLD AND A DIFFERENT TIME -- I WILL CALL FOR NOON SO WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN GO THROUGH OTHER IMPORTANT AGENDA ITEMS. I HOPE YOUR TIME ALLOWS FOR IT. UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM AT THIS POINT. I KNOW YOU WILL MAKE YOURSELF [1. Receive update from consultant Tim Richardson on GOMESA and other federal funding opportunities.] AVAILABLE. THANK YOU, DR. GONZALEZ. >> THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU SO MUCH. AT THIS TIME MOVE BACK TOA-1. [02:05:04] TIM RICHARDSON. FULL UNMUTE AND GEL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GOMESA AND THE OTHER FEDERALLY FUNDED OPPORTUNITIES. >>JUDGE CANALES: TIM, YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS, BUT WE HAVE TO UN MUTE YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, AND COMMISSIONERS. I HAVE MY STOPWATCH ON AND WILL STAY WITHIN FIVE MINUTES. >>JUDGE CANALES: WONDERFUL. >> THIS IS A MIDYEAR REPORT. YOU ALL HAVE A COPY OF WHAT I AM GOING TO SAY, BUT I WILL REPEAT SOME OF IT AND HAVE A CHANCE FOR YOU TO ASK QUESTIONS AT THE END. NUMBER ONE SCOTT CROSS AND COASTAL PARKS. ORDER TO EXCEED THE CONTRACT FOR $7.5 MILLION FOR PEDRO ISLAND AND IB MAGEE FROM THE 2017 DECISION TO AWARD YOU. THE INFLATION BY ITSELF HAS HIT $1 MILLION MORE THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY. IN MARCH, 3.6 MILLION GIVEN TO SHORELINE FROM JOL. THE TEXAS GAVE $4.7 MILLION TO PETRANITA CREEK. TO GET NUMBER ONE IN THE STATE FOR FRESH WATER INFLOWS. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CAN YOU GO -- WHEN YOU ARE COMING THROUGH THIS -- ESPECIALLY THE SCOTT CROSS. CAN YOU TALK WHAT YOU WORKED ON AND NOT JUST THE STUFF YOU PUT IN HERE FOR SCOTT. WHAT YOUR ROLE SEND WHAT YOU DID ON THE PROJECTS. IF YOU DID STUFF ON THEM OR DIDN'T. INDICATE THEM AS WELL. >> SCOTT'S IS THE ONLY ONE I DIDN'T WORK ON, BECAUSE THAT PREDATED ME. EVERYTHING ELSE, INCLUDING $23 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS, I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN. AND THE IMAGE YOU SHOULD HAVE IN MIND IS A RUGBY SCRUM WHERE YOU HAVE, LIKE, 10, 12, 15 BODIES PUSHING. SOMEBODY MOVES A LEG IN ONE DIRECTION, SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO WE HAVE GOTTEN $4.7 MILLION FROM THE TEXAS TIG. $5 MILLION FROM CMP FOR THE BOB HALL SKY BRIDGE AND PARKING LOT. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. HOLD ON. NOW -- DID YOU WORK -- NOBODY HAS TOLD US WE HAVE GOTTEN THE GRANT GIVEN TO US FROM -- >>JUDGE CANALES: NOT CONFIRMED. >> SCOTT WAS TOLD BY GLO. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE HAVE NOT BEEN AWARDED THAT GRANT? >> HE GOT VERBAL ON THAT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: HE GOT VERBAL. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: DID YOU WORK ON THAT? >> I DID. I UNDERSTAND APPLY AND A GOOD CHANCE YOU WILL GOING TO GET IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S NOT GO INTO --. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: LET'S DON'T TALK ABOUT LIKE WE HAVE GOTTEN IT BECAUSE THAT WILL BE ON THE LIST TOMORROW. IF WE HAVE GOTTEN IT, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO SAY WE HAVE GOTTEN IT. IF WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT YET OFFICIALLY, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN IT. >> A COMMITMENT FROM THE EVERSHELL FOUNDATION FOR $1.6 MILLION FOR PROJECT. AND MARINA AND CULTURAL RESEARCH ORGANIZATION IS COMMITTING $8 MILLION FOR THE LIVING SHORELINE. IN TERMS OF OYSTER DEVELOPMENT. THAT IS GOING TO GO INTO PRECINCT 1, OFF OF NORTH BEACH. . IN ADDITION TO THE $4.7 MILLION FROM PETRANITA CREEK. THE TEXAS TIG, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT YET BUT WON THE DERBY GETTING FIRST PLACE WHERE IT WOULD LIKELY GO. WE ARE WAITING ON $21 MILLION FROM TCEQ FOR THE BUCKET 2 WATER QUALITY PROGRAM. AND THAT COULD COME ANY DAY. WE ARE WAITING ON TREASURY TO CLICK THAT, AND WHERE ANOTHER DOLLARS FALL OUT, I CAN'T KNOW DIRECTLY. BUT PETRANITA CREEK ARE IN THE RUNNING FOR THAT. VERY STRONG. THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR A TOTAL OF $280 MILLION WILL BE AVAILABLE FROM ALL RESTORE BUCKETS, NERTA AND THE TE TEXAS GOMESA. SOME A VERY IMPORTANT AND EXCITING TIME. YOU HAD YOUR PAST -- SOMETHING I WORKED ON THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD GRANT OF $2.7 MILLION BRING IN CLAYBURG AND JIM WELLS COUNTY TO HAVE A PLAN. [02:10:04] I HEARD IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED WITH PLANNING AND PERMITTING, AND I AM TOO. BUT REALLY YOU CAN NOT LAND DOLLARS FROM ANY OF THESE GRANT SOURCES WITHOUT A PLAN. AND YOU -- THE SECOND OF THE PUBLIC MEETINGS WAS HELD IN ROBSTOWN BY SUSAN ROTH AND THE WHOLE GROUP. AND IT IS -- AND IT IS AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY. GET YOUR PLAN IN PLACE FOR THIS $280 MILLION THAT IS APPROACHING YOU AND ALL THE ENTIRE COAST. YOUR PLAN WILL BE IN PLACE. I HAVE HIT MY FIVE MINUTES. I HAVE GOT A LOT MORE TO SAY, BUT AMONG THE PARTNER THAT'S YOU HAVE ACTIVELY HELPING YOU RIGHT NOW IS THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE, THE TEXAS TIG, THE CHAPMAN RANCH, TCEQ AND TREASURY, THE SHOALS FOUNDATION, THE COASTAL RESEARCH, THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI AUTHORITY, FIRST LADY BARBARA BUSH, THROUGH THE TEXAN BY NATURE PROGRAM AND BATH AND BAY. THEY COME UP WITH AN EXCITING NEW VIDEO. TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. I ADDRESSED THAT. CLAYBERG AND JIM WELLS. POSSIBLY CDBG MINT. WE ARE HOPING FOR THE LIVING SHORELINE. IN TERMS OF -- AND THEN ALSO CONGRESSMAN CLOUD ON SEA TURTLES IS GETTING INTERESTED IN DOING SOMETHING, ALONG WITH CONGRESSMAN QUAR. IN TERMS OF MEDIA,CBS SUNDAY MORNING SEA TURTLE PROGRAM COMING UP. THE PBS PROGRAM THAT YOU PARTICIPATED IN WILL BE HERE JUNE 30. DEPENDS ON WHEN STATIONS WANT TO RUN IT. IT IS THEIR DECISION. AND SCOTT TELLS ME THAT THE FALCON VIDEO IS GOING TO BE RELEASED SMARTLY. SO THAT IS A BIG BODY OF WORK. I HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE OFFERING IS ABOUT $36 MILLION. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE LEAD IN PRECINCT 4 OF THESE DOLLARS SO FAR. I THINK SO PRECINCT 1, 2 AND 3 ARE GOING TO CATCH UP THIS YEAR IN THE SECOND HALF OF THE YEAR. SO THAT IS GOOD FOR THEM AND GOOD FOR YOU AS WELL BECAUSE THE WATER QUALITY WILL GO IN THE BAY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I HAVE A QUESTION. SO BETWEEN LAST SEPTEMBER AND NOW, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY MONIES AT ALL? >> YEAH. $1.7 MILLION FROM TEXAS TIG. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: 1.7, TEXAS. >>JUDGE CANALES: $1.7 MILLION. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THAT WENT WHERE? >> PARDON ME? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THAT WENT WHERE? >> GOING TO PETRANITA CREEK. THAT WILL INCLUDE YOUR PRECINCT. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WAS THERE A -- A PROPOSAL OR SOMETHING -- SUBMITTED FOR PETRANITA CREEK. >> A LOT OF PROPOSALS BY YOU, CLAYBURG AND JIM WELLS COUNTY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I DON'T REMEMBER THAT PROPOSAL. CAN YOU GIVE ME A COPY OF THAT PROPOSAL? >> SURE. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. >> FOUNDATION, $176 MILLION, PART OF THE LIVING SHORELINE IN PRECINCT 1. THEY ARE USING OLD HIGHWAY CEMENT THEY WILL PUT IN THE WATER TO BUILD YOUR UNDERWATER BREAKWATER. HOPEFULLY WILL BECOME THE HOME OF FIVE BILLION OYSOYSTERS. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: 1.6 IS FOR NUECES COUNTY TO DO THAT? >> FOR YOUR PROJECT, YES. BY THE EVERSHALL FOUNDATION. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHAT PROJECT IS THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT'S STUFF -- NOT MONEY MATERIAL. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THOUGHT IT WAS MONEY. ANY MONEY FOR NUECES COUNTY THAT WE CAN USE THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM SEPTEMBER UNTIL NOW? >> $4.# MILLION HAS BEEN DIRECTED TO PETRANITA CREEK. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: DO WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE MONIES? >> PROBABLY YOU DON'T HAVE A CHECK, BUT YOU HAVE BEEN AWARDED. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHEN WAS THE AWARD? >> PARDON? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHEN WAS THE AWARD? >> IT WAS IN MARCH. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT AWARD OR SOMETHING? >> YES, IT HAS BEEN PUBLISHED. I WILL GET IT TO YOU. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: IF YOU WOULD PLEASE. I APPRECIATE IT. ALSO IF I CAN GET A COPY OF THE PROPOSAL. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE COPY OF THE PROPOSAL? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: FOR MATERIAL OR SOMETHING THEY ARE GOING TO USE THERE AT PRECINCT [02:15:06] 1. >> YEAH. >>JUDGE CANALES: CORRECT. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ARE WE DOING THE WORK -- IS NUECES COUNTY DOING THE WORK? >> CONTRACTED TO GET THE WORK IN AND PART OF THAT FIGURE, THE $1.6 MILLION IS THE CEMENT ITSELF AND MOVING THE CEMENT OFF NORTH BEACH. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: HE THE CONTRACT FOR THAT? >>JUDGE CANALES: NO, COMMISSIONER, THE NATIONAL WILDLIFE FOUNDATION GRANT SPENDING FOR THE PROJECT THAT THE COURT COURT HAS APPROVED AND RESUBMITTED. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SAYING PRECINCT 1 AND PRECINCT 2, THROWS ME OFF. >>JUDGE CANALES: PRECINCT 1 WILL BE TECH CLEE -- NOT REALLY -- YOU ARE RIGHT. IT IS NOT IN THE PRECINCT, BUT PROTECTS THE PRECINCT NUMBER ONE. IT IS IN THE WATER, BUT IT IS TECHNICALLY NOT BUT IT IS RIGHT THERE. AS CLOSE AS CAN BE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: $4.7 HAS BEEN AWARDED OR SUPPOSED TO BE AWARDED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING ELSE. IF NOTHING ELSE, I GUESS. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE 15 -- TIM, YOU MAY WANT TO TALK OF THE $15 MILLION BEHIND THE $4.7 MILLION. >> THE REST OF THE WATER POLLUTION FUNDING THAT IS $15 MILLION ON THE SHELF. THEY ARE AWAITING AN ENGINEERING AND DESIGN ON THE CHAPMAN RANCH FRESHWATER INFLOW PROJECT. BUT YOU ARE THE LEAD ON THAT. SO THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT TO BE. EVERYONE IS FRUSTRATED THAT THE CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS HAVE NOT GONE --. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: $15 MILLION WILL GO WHERE? >> TO THE PETRANITA CREEK PROJECT. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: IS THAT US? >>JUDGE CANALES: IT'S US IN THAT WE ARE INTEGRALLY PART OF IT SINCE THE CREEK IS IN NUECES, BUT INCLUDES CLAYBURG BECAUSE IT DRAINS TO BAFFIN BAY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THEY WILL BE CHARGE OF DOING -- >>JUDGE CANALES: REMAINS TO BE SEEN WHO WILL BE IN CHARGE OF THE WORK. THE TRUSTEE IMPLEMENTATION GROUP. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WILL YOU GIVE ME A TOWNSHIP OF THAT, THE 15 MILLION. >> SURE. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU WANT TO MENTION THE MONEY FROM THE GLO, THE PACK RECHANNEL GRANT. >> YEP, $3.6 MILLION FOR THE CHANNEL. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: GOES TO COASTAL PARKS? >>JUDGE CANALES: CORRECT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THAT GOES TO COASTAL PARKS? >> YES, PRECINCT 4 >>I NEED TO ASK A QUESTION. COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. ANY MONEY GO TOWARD DRISCOL? A NEW DISTRICT THAT CAME INTO MY AREA AND I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE, SO SEE WHERE WE ARE AT. >> I THINK THE FUTURE MONEY. DRISCOL SHOULD CERTAINLY BE IN LINE FOR THE BUCKET TWO -- RESTORE BUCKET TOO THE WATER QUALITY, WATER QUANTITY GRANT. IT IS GOING TO BE GOING, I BELIEVE, HOPEFULLY IN YOUR TIS STRICT. . >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: HOPEFULLY. IS THERE ANYTHING FOR BANQETA AREA. >> YES. AT THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD MEETING THAT AATTENDED IN ROBSTOWN, THE NUECES RIVER AUTHORITY HAS A $140 MILLION WISH LIST IN YOUR REGION -- NOT JUST YOUR PRECINCT, BUT THE ENTIRE NUECES RIVER AUTHORITY. ANOTHER THING THAT WORKED IN OTHER PLACES ON THE TEXAS COAST IS IF YOU CAN MAP YOUR GOALS WITH THE STATE AGENCY GOALS AND THE NUECES RIVER AUTHORITY IS STATE FUNDED AGENCY, YOU HAVE A BETTER CHANCE TO WIN. IF YOU HAVE A PLAN, IF YOU CAN MATCH UP WITH STATE AND FEDERAL PRIORITIES, YOU ARE GOING TO WIN. THAT IS WHY JEFFERSON COUNTY HAS DONE. 100% OF THEIR GOALS MATCH WITH STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES. SO THE NUECES RIVER AUTHORITY, COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ IS REALLY IMPORTANT. THEIR SUCCESS IS IMPORTANT FOR YOUR SUCCESS. . >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: WOULD THEY TRY -- WILL THE TRI-COUNTY HELP US AT ALL ON THAT? >> THAT IS WHAT I SAUL THE LANDING STRIP FOR THESE DOLLARS. YOU CAN'T GO INTO AUSTIN AND WASHINGTON WITHOUT A PLAN AND EXPECT TO GET MONEY UNLESS YOU ARE EXPECTING CHARITY. IT DOES HAPPEN, BUT YOU REALLY HAVE TO BE --. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I AM NO THE EXPECTING CHARITY, BUT I AM WONDERING BY HAVING THE TRI-COUNTY STUDY, IF THAT IS [02:20:01] GOING TO HELP US AT ALL TO GET SOME MONIES. >> IT IS PARAMOUNT TO THE SUCCESS OF THAT WATER PLANT AND THOSE AREAS IN YOUR PRECINCT. AND I THINK -- SUSAN WILL WILL BE UP LATER, BUT I BELIEVE THAT PLAN WILL BE DRAFT FINAL THIS TIME NEXT YEAR. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ARE YOU FINISHED? COMMISSIONER MAREZ? >>JUDGE CANALES: GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID OF STUDIES. YOU HEAR A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT STUDIES. AND HEARD SOMETHING IN THE BEGINNING. IF YOU DO STUDIES, YOU DON'T GET MONEY, RIGHT. >> CORRECT. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHAT YOU SAID AT THE BEGINNING. AND I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT. YOU KNOW, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHY SOME PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT STUDIES, RIGHT. WE DON'T LIKE STUDIES. BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDS. YOU GET STUDY FUNDS. BUT, AGAIN, THE ONES THAT WERE HERE COMPLAINING, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THOSE. THE THING IS SOMEBODY -- WE TELL THEM ALL THE TIME THAT IT IS A STUDY, YOU KNOW. IT'S A STUDY. SO -- AND THE RIVER AUTHORITY TO ME IS ANOTHER STUDY THAT I AM JUST REALLY TIRED OF STUDIES TOO, LIKE THE PEOPLE ARE, RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW -- AND THEY ARE FROM UVALVE. SO I AM NOT -- I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD INVEST ANY KIND OF MONEY ON UVALVE THAT IS REALLY NOT FROM NUECES COUNTY. BUT THAT IS ME, RIGHT. BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW. I AM GLAD YOU SAID THAT ABOUT THE STUDIES BECAUSE WE HEARD THAT TODAY SEVERAL TIMES. >> YES. AND I HEARD THE PUBLIC COMMENT. AND PEOPLE ARE GOING UP THE WALL. AND I CAN UNDER STAND THAT. SO JUST VERY QUICKLY, THE BIG PICTURE. WE ARE HALF WAY THROUGH THE BP DEEP PORT HORIZON FUNDING. THE GAME CLOCK IS AT HALFTIME. TEXAS SPENT $630 MILLION. THERE IS AN ESTIMATED $1.2 BILLION LEFT IN THE SECOND HALF. SO ONE-THIRD OF THE MONEY IS GONE. TWO-THIRDS OF THE MONEY IS STRAIGHT AHEAD. YOUR PLANS ARE GETTING IN PLACE. YOU ARE STARTING TO GET MORE DOLLARS. YOU ARE STARTING TO GET WHAT THE OLD RAMMING SPEED. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE "BEN HUR" MOVIE FROM OUR YOUTH, YOU ARE GETTING TO RAMMING SPEED AND THAT IS A GOOD THING. YOU ARE GETTING A LOT OF PARTNERS. AND ONCE THE STATE SEES YOUR SUCCESS AS YOUR SUCCESS OR VICE VERSA. YOUR SUCCESS AS THEIR SUCCESS, YOU WILL BE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD THAN BEING ON THE OUTSIDE PLAYING PEEK-A-BOO WONDERING WHERE THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. THE CLOSER WE CAN MAP TO THAT NUECES COUNTY RIVER AUTHORITY, YOU ARE PITCHING FOR STATE DOLLARS TO STATE AGENCY. THEY CAN FUND THEMSELVES. THAT IS NOT A CRIT 1I678 OF THEM, BUT THEY LIKE TO DO THAT. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE GOT TO FUND OURSELVES TOO. WE HAVE TOO FUND THINGS HERE. WE MADE COMMITMENTS AND TRY TO GET -- DO SOMETHING WITH THE DRAINAGE. SO IT IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF FUNDING HERE THAT WE NEED -- WE NEED TO FIND. SO YOU KNOW, I WOULD RATHER DO THAT THAN TO DO ANOTHER STUDY. YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER, JUST TO HAVE TIM FINISH THE LIST. TIM, CAN YOU TELL THE COMMISSIONER ALSO, WHAT MONEY -- WHAT MONIES ARE COMING IN. WE JUST GOT OUR GOMESA MONIES AND THAT WAS LISTED ON THE AGENDA. IF YOU CAN REMIND HIM. >> 700,000 IN GOMESA. I DIDN'T CAUSE THAT, BUT WE ARE WORKING ON THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES TO PROTECT GOMESA AND BOTH THE OBAMA AND TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TRIED TO ELIMINATE GOMESA. WE HELPED STOP IT AT NULTNAACO. WE HELPED STOP IT. FOR THE STATE OVER $50 MILLION A YEAR AND THEY HAVE 100% DISCRETION TO SPENDS IT ANYWHERE THEY WANT ON THE COAST $50 MILLION A YEAR. THIS YEAR WAS $5 MILLION. AND YOU WILL BE WEIGHING IN ON THE CAUCUS OF RESTARTING THE LEASING FOR OCS DRILLING. AND YOU ARE MEETING WITH EPA NEXT WEEK AND WORK WITH WASHINGTON AND DENVER AT THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES. WE NEED THAT. BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT UKRAINE AND THE WAR HAS GREATLY IMPACTED OIL PRICES AND OIL RELIABILITY -- ENERGY RELIABILITY. SO THAT IS A -- THAT IS HOW BADLY WE HAVE TO WIN. IS TO GET LEASING GOING IN THE GULF, BUT I TELL YOU WHAT, WITH THE PRICE THAT ARE GOING ON TODAY, YOU CAN HANDLE WHAT YOU [02:25:02] LOST ON THE LEASING INTERRUPTION, I BELIEVE, NEXT YEAR. YOU ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT YOU HAVE ALWAYSBEEN. AND THE STATE WILL BE AT THE $50 MILLION RANGE. AND A NEW COMMISSIONER SIT DOWN IN JANUARY WITH A BRAND-NEW TEXAS COASTAL RESILIENCY MASTER PLAN. AND FINALLY JUNE 29, I WOULD LIKE THE ENTIRE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO ATTEND THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE. THEY ARE GOING TO BE ASKING YOU WHAT YOU WANT. THE NEXT COMMISSIONER WILL DECIDE IF YOU GET IT. BUT RIGHT NOW ON THAT PLAN, THE 2019 VERSION OF PLAN, DOESN'T HAVE WATER IN IT. YOUR TOP THREE. WE NEED TO GET WATER IN YOUR TOP THREE. I WOULD SAY NUMBER ONE. MOST OF TEXAS'S APPROACH HAS BEEN OUTWARD FOCUSED ON THE GULF, PROTECTING BEACHES AND SHORELINES AND WETLANDS. WE NEED TO GET INWARD FOCUS ON THE WATER REACHING THE GULF FROM THE LAND AND THAT'S A BIG -- THAT IS STARTING TO HAPPEN. TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD PLAN IS DONE AND YOU HAD A CHANCE TO HEAR KATHLEEN JACKSON, CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD. IT'S COMING. YOU ARE UP FIRST. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, TIM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: GO AHEAD. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: YES, SIR. THIS MORNING WE GAVE AUTHORIZATION TO OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PERSON'. WE JUST AUTHORIZED HIM TO LOOK INTO THE DRAINAGE. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WILL TELL US OR FOR KEEP US FROM GOING OTHER -- I HAVE MY PRECINCT AND WILL ONLY DO MY PRECINCT AND FURTHER DOWN THE LINE, BOUNDARIES GOING TO ROBSTOWN AREA AND GO DO THEIR AREA. CAN WE DO THAT? WITHOUT ACCEPTING ROBSTOWN AND EVERYTHING ELSE. I WANT TO HELP PEOPLE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE BUT WANT TO KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT LEGALLY. >> YOU ASKING COMPETITION WITH OTHER PRECINCTS OR NOT REALLY? >> NOT COMPETITION, BUT HEADED IN THE SAME DIRECTION DOING THE SAME THING. I JUST WANT TO KNOW SOME OF THOSE BOUNDARIES WILL BE LIKE GOING INTO ROBSTOWN AREA. SOME OF THEM MAY BE STATE AREA, TXDO T. I WANT TO KNOW IF WE ARE OKAY DOING THAT. >> YEAH, WE ARE SEEKING ON YOUR BEHALF. YOU ARE SEEK THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $150 MILLION. FOR THE BACK SIDE OF THE COUNTY. THE EMBLEM SIDE. WHEN YOU GET THAT, YOU ARE GOING TO -- EACH OF THOSE ISSUES AND PLACES YOU MENTIONED ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED. . >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: THEY HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE YOU GOT TO GET THEIR APPROVAL. .. >>JUDGE CANALES: SO I THINK WE CAN WORK ON THIS FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S PERSPECTIVE. IF IT IS IN NUECES COUNTY, YOU CAN WORK IN NUECES COUNTY. IT IS A MATTER OF CREATING INTERLOCALS WITH GOVERNMENT ENTITIES IF MONEY ALSO BE EXTENDED INSIDE THEIR JURISDICTIONS AND YOU WILL ASK FOR THEIR ASSISTANCE. BUT I THINK MAYBE THE QUESTION IS BETTER ASKED THIS WAY. WHAT BUCKET OF MONEY. FOR EXAMPLE, GOMESA, SCOTT, MAYBE YOU CAN DISCUSS THIS IN WHY YOU ARE PRESENTATION. THAT GOMESA HAS A REGIONIAL MAP THAT THOSE MONIES HAVE TO STAY IN THE REGIONIAL MAP. MAYBE IT WILL BE HELPFUL IF WE GET THE REGIONIAL MAP TO THE MANAGER. I GOT THE THUMBS UP THERE. THAT HELPS YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE THOSE MONIES WILL BE SPENT ONLY INSIDE THAT REGIONIAL AREA, GEOGRAPHIC AREA. THOSE ARE JUST THOSE MONIES. TAKE PETRANITA CREEK. THOSE MONIES ARE COMING FROM A DIFFERENT BUCKET OF MONEY. THE BP DEEP WATER HORIZON. AND GOES ALL THE BY A TOBAFFIY BAY AND BENEFITING MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS. AND JUST DEPENDS. ASK TIM TO WORK WITH STAFF TO GIVE YOU -- HE IS ASKING STAFF AND TIM ABOUT GEOGRAPHIC BOUN BOUNDARIES AND HOW HE CAN USE DOLLARS FOR DRAINAGE PROJECTS, LIVING SHORELINE PROJECTS AND WHICH ONES ARE RESTRICTED AND WHICH ONES AREN'T. I THINK THAT IS WHAT HE IS ASKING. >> THAT IS WHAT I AM ASKING, JUDGE. >> THE COASTAL ZONE FROM THE [02:30:02] TEXAS GENERAL LAND OFFICE WHERE THEY WILL FOCUS -- THE STATE WILL FOCUS MOST OF THEIR GOMESA MONIES. ALL GOMESA IN THE STHO ZONES. REAL EASY AND YOU CAN GO TO THEIR WEB SITE AND LOOK IT UP. I WILL E-MAIL YOU ALL INDIVIDUALLY. ON THE BP MONIES, YOU CAN GO 25 MILES INLAND PAST THE COASTAL ZONE THAT IS ESTABLISHED WITH ALL THE STATES PARTICIPATING IN THE BP STUFF. SO THERE IS -- THERE ARE WAY TO GET A LITTLE FURTHER OUT OUTSIDE OF 25, BUT THE STANDING RULE 25 MILES INLAND PAST THE COASTAL ZONE. >>JUDGE CANALES: PAST THE COASTAL ZONE. THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW YOU. IF IT GIVES YOU ANY INDICATOR THE PETRANITA CREEK IS IN. THAT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF WHERE WE ARE. >> PARDON, JUDGE. ONE CLARIFICATION. GOMESA IS AVAILABLE IN THE PART OF COUNTY. AND I HAVE ASKED JOEY M[L]CINTYRE THE DIRECT QUESTION WHEN IT CAME TO THE DRAINAGE IN JEFFERSON COUNTY. WE CAN GO A COUNTY UP BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE THE WATER FLOODING IS DERIVED FROM. SO GOMESA, THE MOST LIBERAL DOLLARS WITH JURISDICTION, BEING ABLE TO MOVE. THEY ARE THE BIGGEST FUND AND THEY CAN GO TO YOUR INLAND DRAINAGE ISSUES. >>JUDGE CANALES: STATE GOMESA. YEAH. AND SO -- OKAY, THANK YOU, TIM. IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON. THIS WAS PRESENTATION ONLY. BUT THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD PRESENTATION. OF COURSE SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS ASKED YOU FOR DOCUMENTS, SO BE SURE TO GET THAT. AND EVEN SCHEDULE A CALL WITH THEM. BECAUSE THAT TIG IS NOT NECESSARILY THE EASIEST THING TO COMPREHEND. AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR WOULD IT A LONG TIME. SO -- BUT YOU ARE SELLING YOURSELF SHORT, MAN. YOU ARE THE REASON THAT WE HAVE SUCH A HUGE PRESENCE IN NAACO WITH GOMESA. IT IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO TELL -- I KNOW YOU ARE BEING HUMBLE HERE, BUT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY ASKED A SMART QUESTION, AND THAT IS WHAT HAVE YOU DONE. THE ANSWER IS, YOU ARE LEADING THE TROOPS ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL GETTING US IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY THAT WILL LISTEN THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE GOMESA BECAUSE THE STATE COUNTS ON IT, PRECINCT 4 COUNTS ON IT. COASTAL PARKS COUNTS ON IT, AND THIS WATER QUALITY INLAND IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL FOR US. SO IT'S HUGE. YOU HAVE DONE TEN OTHER THINGS, BUT IF THAT WAS THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE DONE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN WELL WORTH IT. SO LET'S HOPE THAT WE CAN KEEP GOMESA AND ITS NEW SISTER, THE RISE ACT. AND IN YOUR NEXT PRESENTATION YOU CAN TELL US THAT WE ARE NOT SITTING AND WAITING FOR MONEY TO COME IN THE MAILBOX. WE ARE LOOKING FOR NEW MONEY AND YOU ARE ON LEADING EDGE OF THE RISE ACT. [3. Discuss and consider approval of Memorandum of Understanding with the Coastal Bend Wellness Foundation and Nueces County Public Libraries.] THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. I WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 3. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ON MOU WITH COASTAL BEND WELLNESS AND COASTAL BEND PUBLIC LIBRARIES. MY UNDERSTANDING THAT EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER HERE. BUT I WILL ASK FOR THE OKAY. I HAVE GOT A MOTION. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SO MOVED. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. I KIND OF GOT HEAD NODS FROM YOU. [4. Discuss and consider Office Lease Agreement between Nueces County and LYB Enterprises for continued housing of the Community Supervision and Corrections Department (Adult Probation) in the Gollihar Street office, and related matters.] WE ARE GOOD TO GO. >> I THINK SO. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE OFFICE LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY AND LYB. CONTINUED HOUSING KIND OF A YEARLY SITUATION HERE WITH ADULT PROBATION. IS THERE A MOTION AND SECOND. >> SO MOVED. [5. Discuss and consider approval of the Supplemental Agreement for a no-cost time extension to the Engineering Services Contract with Lockwood, Andrews & Newnam, Inc. related to the Bob Hall Pier Parking Lot.] >> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THE NEXT IS A SUPPLEMENTIAL AGREEMENT A NO COST TIME EXTENSION FOR LAN RELATED TO BOB HALL PIER PARKING LO THE. YOU HEARD FROM SCOTT AND TIM THAT WE APPLIED FOR A GRANT AND WE ARE ON A HOLDING PATTERN AND NEED A NO COST TIME EXTENSION. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: AS LONG AS NO COST. MOTION TO APPROVE. [6. Discuss and consider approval of a Dune Protection Permit Exemption for a single-family residence with a pool DPP-202203-03p located at Lot 4, Mustang Island Estates, Corpus Christi, TX.] >>JUDGE CANALES: SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THE NEXT ONE IS -- AND I WISH SCOTT -- DUNE PROTECTION. AND MUSTANG ISLAND. THIS GETS THREE LAYERS OF VETTING BEFORE YOU SEE IT, COMMISSIONERS. SEEN BY COASTAL PARKS, BMAC AND REVIEWED THOROUGHLY AND COMES TO YOU FOR YOUR APPROVAL. IS THERE AN APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR PERMIT EXEMPTION FOR [02:35:04] THIS SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE? A MOTION? >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: A MOTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: IS THERE A SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: JUDGE -- I SEE COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HAS HIS HAND UP. >> HE DROPPED OFF. >>JUDGE CANALES: HE WAS HAVING WEAK INTERNET SCHEDULE. CAN YOU SEE IF SCOTT CROSS IS OUT THERE. HE SHOULD COME IN AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THIS BEFORE I CALL THE VOTE. I WILL SECOND IT, EMMA. BUT LET'S GET HIM TO GET IT ON THE RECORD THAT HE -- YOU KNOW, THAT HE HAS VETTED IT AS THE PAPERWORK INDICATES. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: JUDGE, JUST -- JUST TO FILL -- OH, THERE HE IS. >>JUDGE CANALES: HEY, THE DUNE PERMIT. >> YEAH, IT'S GOOD TO GO. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON THE RECORD. YOU RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> THIS IS NOT WORKING. I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. YES, COMMISSIONER? >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT THEY HAD ISSUES IN THE PAST BUT IT IS VETTED SO MUCH BY THE STATE, BY OUR LOCAL BMAC. . I HATE TO SAY ADMINISTERIAL BUT IT IS. WE ARE SUPPORTIVE. >> I CAN ASSURE YOU EVERYTHING [7. Discuss and consider approval of Work Authorization No. 2 with Advanced Construction Management, LLC pursuant to Professional Services Agreement related to Intergovernmental Services Agreement (IGSA) projects.] HAS BEEN CHECKED AND CLARIFIED. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, FINE. NEXT ONE IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE APPROVAL WORK AUTHORIZATION NUMBER TWO WITH ADVANCED CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT WITH PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT REGARDING INTERGOVERNMENTAL SERVICE AGREEMENT LAST TIME WE MADE THE SELECTION. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION AND SECOND ON THE FLOOR WITH MAREZ. [8. Discuss and consider approval of Second Supplemental Agreement with Susan Roth, P.E., for engineering services related to drainage master planning, and related matters.] ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. NEXT ONE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE SECOND IS UPMENTIAL OF SUSAN ROTH RELATED TO MASTER PLANNING. WHICH WILL GIVE US TO THE NEXT PHASE OF OUR GRANT WITH TWBD. A MOTION AND I WILL SECOND. AND SHE IS ON THE LINE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. . >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: IS THIS ITEM -- ITEM 8? >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST FOR THE RECORD, THIS MONEY COMES FROM [9. Discuss and consider approving proposal/agreement with Forensic Pathology Staffing for Autopsy Report Continuation and Completion for the Medical Examiner’s Office.] THE GRANT ITSELF. THE NEXT ONE IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING PROPOSAL AFROEMENT WITH FORENSIC PATHOLOGY STAFFING FOR AUTOPSY REPORT CONTINUATION AND COMPLETION. THIS WAS ALSO DISCUSSED BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY THE CONTRACT AND THE AGREEMENT. I WILL SAY THAT IT IS HA BEEN VETTED BY -- LET ME GO AHEAD AND HAVE YOU SAY THAT. HAS IT BEEN VETTED. >> YES, IT HAS. >>JUDGE CANALES: AND THIS IS -- WHAT WERE YOU GOING TO SAY TO ME? THEY ARE ONLINE? THE FORENSIC PATHOLOGY STAFFING GROUP IS ONLINE. AND THEY WILL BE -- THEY WILL BE USING THIS AGREEMENT IN ORDER TO HELP COMPLETE REPORTS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE ADMINISTRATION OF THESE REPORTS. GETTING THESE REPORTS MEDICALLY AND ADMINISTRATIVELY COMPLETE. . >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: NOTHING EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS ON THIS. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE ARE GOOD TO GO. MOTION. HOW ABOUT A SECOND. OKAY, I WILL SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: AYE, SORRY. I AM HAVING WI-FI PROBLEMS. >>JUDGE CANALES: A LITTLE [10. Discuss and consider use of ARPA funds for the Out-of-County Incarceration - COVID-19 Prevention Measures in Correctional Facilities project.] DELAYED. WE WILL WAIT FOR YOU. WE KNOW YOU ARE THERE! >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SORRY. >>JUDGE CANALES: ITEM NUMBER 10, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER USE OF ARPA FUND FOR THE COVID-19 PREVENTION MEASURES IN CORRECTION FACILITIES PROJECT. DALE HAS THE NUMBERS HERE ALONG WITH IDAY. I DON'T SEE HIM ON, BUT THIS HAS BEEN VETTED BY TOM WEATHERBY. AND DALE, IT WILL ALLOW THE COUNTY TO RECUPERATE THE DOLLARS SPENT IN OUR COUNTY FOR FISCAL YEAR. WHAT NUMBERS CAN YOU PROVIDE FOR THE COURT TODAY? >> AT LEAST OVER $150,000 ARE. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: HOW MUCH? >> AT LEAST OVER $150,000. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM CONFUSED BECAUSE THE BURN RATE OVER 400,000. >> THAT THE BUDGET WE SET FOR IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: BUT WHEN I GET MY DOLLARS EVERY DAY THAT KEEP INCREASING ON MY REPORT, THOSE ARE NOT ACCURATE DOLLARS? >> NO. >>JUDGE CANALES: HOW WOULD YOU -- I GUESS, COURT, WHAT WE ARE ASKING HERE IS THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IT BE RECUPERATED UNDER THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHEN, JUDGE? >>JUDGE CANALES: THROUGH THE [02:40:02] FISCAL YEAR, SEPTEMBER 30. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THOUGHT WE HAD DISCUSSED DOING IT GOING FORWARD ALSO. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT COULD BE A MOTION TOO. I WAS TRYING TO BABY STEP IT. BUT IF YOU WANT TO --. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUST MAKING SURE. I THOUGHT WE TALKED ABOUT USING IT FOR WHAT WE ALREADY SPENT. AND -- AND THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER YEAR OF ALLOCATIONS FOR THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: CORRECT. WE CERTAINLY CAN. BUT NOT ENOUGH INFO YET. IF YOU WOULD LIKE, WHAT I COULD DO IS HAVE DALE AND WORK ON MAYBE LIKE A FORECAST. BUT FOR NOW, HOW ABOUT YOUR MOTION -- MAYBE WE CAN AMEND IT TO SAY THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IT TO BE APPROVED TO THE ENDS OF THE FISCAL YEAR WITH A -- WITH AN AMOUNT TO BE BROUGHT FORTH IN THE NEXT MEETING ON -- ON -- HARD TO SAY -- >> WE ALREADY CLOSED LAST FISCAL YEAR AND RECOVER THAT COST, AS WELL AS SEEING ANY COSTS WE HAVE CURR CURRENTLY. >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, PUT IT ON SO WE CAN SEE HOW WE FORECAST IT BECAUSE IT HAVEN'T HANDS YET. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHAT I WAS HOPING WE COULD DO SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS IS TO GET KIND OF A RUNNING TALLY BECAUSE WE ALSO IN PREVIOUS COURT TALKED ABOUT SPENDING ARPA MONEY FOR THE ME SUPPLEMENT. THINGS OF THAT NATURE. IF WE CAN PUT THIS ON THE LIST WHEN WE PUT THIS WHOLE THING BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR AN AGENDA ITEM TO HAVE AN UP-TO-DATE TALLY. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK THEY ARE LISTENING. I WILL MAKE SURE -- THEY ARE ONLINE. I SEE THEY ARE LISTENING TO YOU. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IS THE NUMBER 150, IS WHAT I HEARD. >> AT LEAST THAT AMOUNT. >>JUDGE CANALES: AT LEAST THAT AMOUNTS. DALE, FORGET ME FOR PUTTING YOU ON THE SPO SPOT. GET US THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30. >> RECOVER THE COST FROM LAST FISCAL YEAR. >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, FOR LAST FISCAL YEAR, 150. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF DALE IS 100% SURE THAT 150 IS THE RIGHT NUMBER, GREAT. OR A BROADER MOTION. >> TO THE BROADER AMOUNT. >>JUDGE CANALES: HE IS SAYING YES TO YOU. >> THE BROADER AMOUNT, YES. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: AMEND THE MOTION. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NOVEMBER 31. .<,NEW LINE>>> W[L]O[L]M[L]A[L]N: SEPTEMBER 30. I WILL AMEND THE MOTION THAT IT INCLUDE LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR TO SEPTEMBER 30, TO END OF OUR FISCAL YEAR FOR OUT-OF-COUNTY HOUSING. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WILL SECOND IF THERE ISN'T A SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: THERE IS NO THE. THAT IS OKAY, I GAVE IT TO YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY [11. Discuss and consider use of ARPA funds for the Nueces County Employee Self-Funded Group Health Program - COVID-19 Diagnostics and Testing project.] SAYING AYE. ALL RIGHT, THEN THE NEXT ONE -- AND WE HAVE TOMAS HERE AS A RESOURCE. IT IS RECUPERATION OF FUNDS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER USING ARPA FOR THE NUECES COUNTY SELF-FUNDED HEALTH PROGRAM, COVID-19 DIAGNOSTICS AND TESTING PRONG. YOU HAVE -- YOU RECEIVED, COMMISSIONERS IN YOUR PACKET -- IT WAS LATE BUT IT WAS THERE -- BASICALLY A SUMMARY OF WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE. I WILL ASK DALE TO START. AND TOMAS TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT YOU HAVE VERIFIED THESE NUMBERS. DALE. SEVERAL ISSUES HOW TO RECOVER THE MEDICAL CLAIMS AND PREDESCRIPTION CLAIMS THROUGH MARCH '21 WITH THE START OF ARPA FUNDS. GOING THROUGH PRESENT. ANDTOMAS HAS GONE THROUGH OUR PRESCRIPTION CARRIER TO COVER THE COST. HE WILL HAVE A SPREADSHEET. $1,729,000. ASKING FOR A REIMBURSEMENT OF THAT COST. I WILL LET TOMAS TO CONTINUE ON THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM. >>JUDGE CANALES: ONE MORE TIME THE AMOUNT OF MONEY? >> 1,729,000 WOMZ. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, THANK YOU. TOMAS, THAT IS WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO SAY. BUT THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE TOTAL, CORRECT? >> IS THIS ON? >>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS ON. >> IT MAY HAVE DIED. HOLD ON. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: IT DIES TWICE A DAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT DOES. >> I WILL EXPLAIN DISCREPANCY OF THE ONE YOU GOT ON FRIDAY AND TODAY'S. SIMPLY THEY PUT A FILTER. READ THE NUMBERS AND IT IS INCLUDED. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE $700,000 AND $800,000 AND THE MILLION SEVEN. BUT ESSENTIALLY IT IS -- WHAT DALE HAS SAID. IT IS THE RECOUP OF THE EXPENSES PAID FOR BOTH MEDICAL FROM MARCH [02:45:03] 31 -- I MEAN MARCH OF '21 UNTIL THE END OF LAST MONTH. AND THAT IS BASICALLY IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION? >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: SO MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: AND SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THANK YOU, TOMAS. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHEN THIS COMES -- SORRY, JUDGE, I HAVE A QUESTION. THIS COMES OUTS OF THE SELF-FUNDED GROUP. THIS IS ARPA FUND AND COME OFF THAT $55 MILLION TOTAL. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT WILL, BUT HERE IS THE GOOD NEWS. IT HAS ITS OWN, LIKE, CATEGORY. SO IT DOES NOT AFFECT THAT LOST REVENUE GOVERNMENT SERVICES, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT! >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: RIGHT, BUT JUST -- >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, IT DOES. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: 1.7 OR 1.9? >>JUDGE CANALES: I HEARD 1.7. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: 1.7 PLUS THE 150. WE SPENT A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS OUT OF THE TOTAL $55 THAT WE HAD LEFT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S CORRECT, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: AGAIN ARTICULATING FOR THE PUBLIC. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU MAY WONDER WHY MARCH 21 WHEN IT WAS AFFECTING US IN 2020. THAT IS THE RULE. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT LATER OR SEE IT WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED TO 2020, ARPA WAS GIVEN A START DATE OF MARCH '21. SO WE CAN'T GO AND RECOVER THOSE 2020 LOSSES. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW WE HAD SIGNIFICANT 2020 MEDICAL AND PHARMACY LOSSES PRIOR TO MARCH OF '21, BUT THIS IS STILL A GREAT WAY TO RECUPERATE COSTS. >> JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, ALMOST A MILLION EIGHTHS PRIOR TO MARCH '21 THAT WE COULD NOT RECOVER. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT WE COULD NO THE RECOVER, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I AM ESPECIALLY PROUD OF OUR TEAM, BECAUSE I -- THIS PARTICULAR NOTION CAME AFTER -- CAME IN JANUARY AFTER THE FINAL RULES. AND THE NUECES COUNTY TEAM WENT TO WASHINGTON NO LESS THAN TWO TIMES PHYSICALLY AND MULTIPLE TIMES WITH SECRETARY EDDIE EMO ON THE PHONE ASKING THAT COUNTIES BE AGAIN THE OPPORTUNITY. I WISH IT WOULD HAVE GONE ALL THE WAY BACK AND UNFORTUNATELY CONGRESS MADE IT VERY SPECIFIC THAT THERE IS MONEY THAT WE LOST THAT WE CAN NOT RECOVER FROM COVID-19 MEDICAL. BUT THIS HELPS... A LOT. [12. Discuss and consider approval of Judge Pro Tem schedule for the Commissioners Court for the calendar year beginning January 1, 2023.] THANK YOU, TOMAS. . IN THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM 12. AGAIN, WE HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS BEFORE, BUT THIS IS THE CLEANING UP HOUSEKEEPING TO HAVE MAYOR -- LISTEN TO ME MAYOR -- PRO TEM SCHEDULE AND GOES ON SENIORITY AND WE MADE A CORRECTION BECAUSE IT WAS NOT CORRECT. AND IDAY TELLS ME IT IS ALL IN ORDER TOO. IS THERE A MOTION? >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: THE ONE WE SHOW ONLINE? >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU HAVE IT CORRECTS IN YOUR PACKET. IS THAT RIGHT? IT IS ALL CORRECT. GONZALEZ, CHESNEY, HERNANDEZ AND MAREZ. FOR THE RECORD. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HANG ON A SECOND. DID WE CORRECTS WHAT I PUT IN THE PACKET? BECAUSE I WAS TAKE IT FROM -- COMMISSIONER MAREZ WAS ALREADY PRO TEM AND I WENT FROM THERE. SO COMMISSIONER MAREZ HAD BEEN PRO TEM AND I PICKED IT UP AFTER HIM AND WENT IN THE ORDER. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL I CAN TELL YOU THAT I ASKED IDAY IF IT WAS IN GOOD ORDER AND SHE SAID YES. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS DONE. I THINK THAT IS DONE BY SENIORITY. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WANT TO PUT IT ON. THE WAY I PUT IT ON -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT GOT PUT ON THE WAY -- IF IT DIDN'T, I WANT TO KNOW THE CORRECTION WAS. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ IS THE ONE THAT MADE THE SUGGESTION. . >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I SUGGESTED COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ SINCE HE IS THE SENIOR COMMISSIONER AND PASSED BY. I SUGGESTED THAT HE BE NEXT. >>JUDGE CANALES: INSTEAD OF YOU. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: THAT'S CORRECT. I DON'T THINK I HAVE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK THAT CORRECTION WAS MADE, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY! >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NO OFFENSE, SINCE IT WAS MY AGENDA ITEM, THEY TOLD ME IT WAS A CORRECTION. AND I WOULD LIKE FOR SOMEONE -- >> WE DIDN'T POST ANYTHING WITHOUT TELLING YOU, COMMISSIONER. WE TALKED TO YOUR ASSISTANT. WHEN I COMMUNICATED WITH HER. SHE SAID EVERYTHING HERE IS FINE. THAT WE WORKED WITH THE OFFICE [02:50:02] AND EVERYTHING HERE IS CORRECT. WE DIDN'T CORRECT ANYTHING AFTER THE FACT. >>JUDGE CANALES: IF YOU WERE NOT -- >> WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK AND HOLD ON THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS FINE. IS THAT OKAY? >> I DON'T THINK IT WAS ANYTHING TO SLIGHT YOU. I THINK IT WAS -- COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ'S RECOMMENDATION THAT SAID HOLD ON, I THINK IT SHOULD BE COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: HE DIDN'T WANT TO BE NEXT. HE DIDN'T WANT TO BE NEXT. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I JUST DON'T THINK I HAVE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT -- OR WANT TO DO THAT. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ WASBYPASSED LAST TIME. AND I AM GOING BACK GIVING HIM --. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WAS JUST PICKING IT UP FROM WHERE IT WAS AND TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE GOT A CHANCE, BECAUSE THE WAY THE FIRMS RUN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ IS OR ISN'T GOING TO DO. BUT HE WON'T BE ABLE TO SERVE AS JUDGE PRO TEM IF HE DOESN'T RUN FOR REELECTION. I WAS PICK IT UP FROM COMMISSIONER MAREZ AND GO FROM THERE, IF THE COURT WANTS TO CHANGE IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ WANTS TO CHANGE IT. HE IS SAYING HE WOULD LIKE TO PASS ON THAT, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: OKAY. WE WILL START WITH THE ROTATION BEING COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ AND GOING ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR. >>JUDGE CANALES: WAS THERE A MOTION? I DON'T REMEMBER. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION NOW. YOU GOT A MOTION? ASKED FOR A MOTION? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF YOU CLARIFY WHAT THE MOTION IS SO IT IS CLEAR FOR THE RECORD AND MY BACKUP SAYS IT IS DIFFERENT. AND IF IT HAS CHANGED SINCE I PUT IT ON. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE MOTION IS THAT WE APPROVE THE JUDGE PRO TEM SCHEDULE WHICH WILL INCLUDE -- BY ORDER OF SENIORITY WHICH WILL BE COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, CHESNEY, MAREZ AND THEN HERNANDEZ. IF YOU WENT -- BECAUSE IT WILL GO AGAIN. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF THAT IS THE WILL OF THE COURT, THEN I WILL SECOND THE MOTION. [13. Discuss any need for an Order prohibiting the use and sale of aerial fireworks in the unincorporated areas of the County during the Fourth of July fireworks season; discuss and consider adopting an Order (if needed) prohibiting the use and sale of aerial fireworks in the unincorporated areas of the County during the Fourth of July fireworks season.] >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. ITEM NUMBER 13, CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO CHIEF CLACKS EARLIER COMMENT. ED TO LEAVE. BUT WHERE WE WERE WITH THE BURN INDEX. DISCUSS ANY NEED FOR AN ORDER THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THE USE AND SALE OF AERIAL FIREWORKS DURING FOURTH OF JULY FIREWORKS SEASON AND DISCUSS AN ORDER IF NEEDED OF THE SAIL OF AERIAL FIREWORKS DURING FOURTH OF JULY SEASON. THERE ARE REALLY SPECIFIC RULES HERE. YOU WANT TO SHARE THOSE WITH US, JEFF? I MEAN, IT IS AMAZING. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TIME FRAME THAT GIVES EVERYBODY SUFFICIENT TIME. SO IT IS NO THE LIKE WE CAN DO THIS LATER, THAT'S CORRECT? >> YOU WOULD HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE RULES. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THOSE DATES ARE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM PRETTY SURE IT IS HERE NOW. I WANT TO YOU KNOW THAT. WE ARE NOT TOO EARLY. APPARENTLY A CERTAIN TIME FRAME THAT IS GIVEN, AND THAT'S WHY IT IS ON YOUR AGENDA. . >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: JUNE 14 IS THE DATE. >> IT IS JUNE 14. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO KNOW. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: WE DON'T MEET UNTIL THE 22ND AGAIN. >> YES, COMMISSIONER, THE NEXT COURT IS AFTER THE JUNE 14 DATE, SO WE THOUGHT WE WOULD GET IN RIGHT NOW. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: THE CHIEF SAID BECAUSE IT IS DRY AT THAT POINT IT DOESN'T MATTER IF WE GETS RAIN. THAT IS SOMETHING I WANTED TO ADD IN A MOTION. IF WE DROP BELOW THE INDEX, BUT APPARENTLY IF WE ARE TOO DRY, IT DOESN'T MATTER. >> SO MUCH FUEL ON THE GROUND, RIGHT NOW, COMMISSIONER. I DON'T SEE US GETTING OUT -- UNLESS WE GET A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RAIN IN A CONCENTRATED TIME, THEN THAT WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THEN YOU ARE GOING TO FLOOD. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: MOTION TO ACCEPT CHIEF CLARK'S RECOMMENDATION. >>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IS TRYING TO RECONNECT. THERE HE IS. LET'S ME GIVE HIM A HEADS UP HERE. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY -- OH, HE IS WAITING. IS HE ON? COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, WHAT WE WERE SAYING IS -- COMMISSIONER MAREZ, IF YOU REPEAT IT, REAL -- YOUR QUESTION --. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: MY QUESTION TO SOMETHING THAT WAS PRESENTED EARLIER BY CHIEF CLACK THAT THERE WILL BE TOO MUCH FUEL ON THE GROUND ALREADY AND NO MATTER THE AMOUNTS OF RAIN, IT WOULD STILL MAKE IT DANGEROUS SITUATION FOR MAINTAINING AERIAL FIREWORKS. SO JUST GOING OFF THE CHIEF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT HE MENTIONED EARLIER. THAT WAS MY MOTION. >> WE LOST HIM. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT WAS MOTIONED AND SECONDED. >> WE LOST HIM. [02:55:03] >>JUDGE CANALES: HE IS ON -- ON A WEAK SIGNAL. ANYWAY, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, LOUIE, THAT THE CITY HAS ALREADY DONE THIS AS WELL? >> I DON'T KNOW, JUDGE. I WILL CHECK WITH THEM TODAY. I HAVEN'T TALKED TO THEM YET. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THOUGHT SOMEBODY SAID THAT BUT MAYBE I AM WRONG FOR THAT. WELL, THIS IS SAD FOR ALL OF US THAT LOVE THE CELEBRATION. ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT THESE ARE THE HARD CHOICES OF EXTREME WEA WEATHER. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: TOO MANY RULES. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE CHIEF IS VERY, VERY CONCERNS. HE IS CHIEF OF THE CHIEFS. [14. Discuss any need for an Order prohibiting outdoor burning in the unincorporated areas of Nueces County; discuss and consider adopting an Order (if needed) prohibiting outdoor burning in the unincorporated areas of Nueces County, pursuant to Section 352.081 of the Texas Local Government Code.] THE CHIEF OF THE FIRE CHIEFS. IT IS DONE. WE ALREADY VOTED. THE NEXT IS THE OUTDOOR BURNING. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AN ORDER PROHIBITING THE OUTDOOR BURNING. SO THIS IS THE ACTUAL ADOPTION. WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE ORDER FOR THE PROHIBITION OF OUTDOOR BURNING AS WELL. A MOTION. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SO MOVED. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY, LOUIE WE WILL GET YOU -- EMMA, DID I GET YOU EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEEDED ON THE FIRST ONE? YEAH, I GUESS WE DID. IT WAS JUST A -- AN ADOPTION OF AN ORDER. WE ARE GOOD. THE NEXT ONE IS -- I NEED MICHAEL ROBINSON. I DIDN'T QUITE GIVE HIM HEADS UP. LET ME SKIP FOR JUST A SECOND. [16. Discuss County generator Resiliency Project, including any update from program manager.] AND ASK IF JP GROM IS ON THE LINE. GO TO THE GENERATOR RESILIENCY PROJECT. AND JUST REMEMBER WE ARE NOT DISCUSSING THE CONTRACT AT ALL. WE ARE JUST DISCUSSING THE CONCEPTS TODAY. JP, I WILL LET YOU UNMUTE AND ITEM NUMBER 16 FOR THE CLERK WE SKIPPED 15 TO GET MICHAEL UP HERE. THERE IS JP ON LIEN. WELCOME, JP. A BACKGROUNDS -- OR UPDATE ON YOU FOR THE GENERATESER RESILIENCY PROJECT WITHOUT GOING INTO THE ISSUE THAT ARE NOT READY FOR DISCUSSION, WHICH IS THE CONTRACT ITSELF. >> SURE, JUDGE. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE, BECAUSE WE ARE IN A PROCUREMENTS WINDOW. VERY LITTLE THAT I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THE PROJECT. WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN DESIGNED. IT HAS BEEN BID. AND WE ARE WAITING THE AWARD PROCESS PACED ON DECISIONS THAT THE COURT HAVE MADE IN PRIOR SESSIONS ABOUT A CERTAIN COMPANY RECEIVING THAT AWARD. SO I WANT TO STAY CLEAR OF ANY OF THOSE PROCUREMENT RELATED ISSUES, BUT IF THERE ARE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO SPEAK TO THOSE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. . >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: CAN >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: BASICALLY WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IN THE PUBLIC WORKS OFFICE AND WAS OVERHEARD TELLING PEOPLE THERE -- AND -- AND THE COUNTY ENGINEER THAT THIS WASN'T GOING TO WORK AT ALL. >> I AM NOT SURE THAT THAT INFORMATION IS TRUE, COMMISSIONER. BEING SPECIFIC THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THAT AND GET THAT SORTED OUT. BUT WE HAVE AN SYSTEM SIGNED AND SEALED BY AN ENGINEER AND IS EXPECT TO WORK. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WELL, IT CAME FROM ONE OF YOUR FOLKS WHO WAS IN PUBLIC WORKS OFFICE WHEN HE MADE THAT REMARK THAT THEY KNEW THIS SYSTEM WAS NOT GOING TO WORK FROM THE BE BEGINNING. AND THERE IS NO WAY THAT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO BENEFIT FROM IT. SHANE, I ASKED HIM TO BE HERE AND HE DIDN'T SHOW UP. THE SECOND TIME, HE SHOWED UP BUT HAD TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL BECAUSED A BLOOD CLOT. IF I HAD KNOWNED A BLOOD CLOT, I WOULDN'T HAVE ASKED HIM TO COME BY. HE TOLD PUBLIC WORKS THAT HE JUST GOT OUT OF THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE A BLOOD CLOT AND M MR.PIMENTAL. HE HAS BEEN OVERHEARD SAKE THAT THIS SYSTEM IS NOT GOING TO WORK. AND WE ALL KNEW ABOUT IT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. THOSE ARE HIS WORDS. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU HAVE TO UN MUTE. JP, YOU NEED TO UN MUTE. >> I EXPECT SPEAK TO THAT. SOUNDS LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF HEARSAY, COMMISSIONER. IF IT WAS OVERHEAD, THEN I HATE -- I HATE THAT THAT'S OUT THERE AND THAT WAS OVERHEARD INCORRECTLY. WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT HAS BEEN DESIGNED BY AN ENGINEER, SIGNED, SEALED. [03:00:01] >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I WAS BEEN ASKING FOR SHANE TO COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT THAT. >> SURE. YEAH, I OVERSEE SHANE. AND I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT. AND YOU CAN SEE SHANE'S DEDICATION TO THE COUNTY, THE FACT THAT HE IS WILLING TO TALK TO YOU WHILE EXPERIENCING A BLOOD CLOT, BUT IN THIS CASE, I AM HAPPY TO STEP UP AND TALK ABOUT THE AGAIN RATER AND SAY THEY HAVE A PROJECT THAT IS READY TO BE CONSTRUCTED SHOULD -- SHOULD WE FINALIZE THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU ARE SAYING THAT IT IS GOING TO WORK THEN AND IF WE HAVE ANY PROBLEMS, WE WILL STAND BY IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: OKAY, THANK YOU. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: WE ALREADY PUT THIS BID OUT AND IT IS AWARDED? >>JUDGE CANALES: WE MADE THE SELECTION SELECTION AND THE AWARD SEVERAL WEEKS BACK, BUT THEY ARE STILL IN THE CONTRACT PHASE. >> JUDGE, CAN I CHIME IN A LITTLE BIT. WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS DONE CONDITIONAL SELECTION FIRST AND THEN COME BACK FOR THE AWARD AND EXECUTION OF THE CONTRACT IN THE END. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, MICHAEL. >> COME BACK JUNE 22. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: CONDITIONAL SELECTION. SOMETHING NEW OR HAVE WE BEEN DOING THIS BEFORE? >> WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. LAST TWO OR THREE MONTHS. WORKING WITH JENNY'S OFFICE, WHAT WE DETERMINED IS WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING. IF THE COURT SELECTS -- WHEN WE WERE DOING THE BOB HALL PROJECT AND RAN INTO SOME ISSUES THAT BY SETTING THE AWARD AND EXECUTION TO OCCUR AT THE SAME TIME AT THE END OF THE PROJECT, IT ALLOWS THE COURT THE ABILITY TO KEEP THOSE MATTER THAT ARE ONGOING IN THE NEGOTIATIONS WITHOUT HAVING TO GET INVOLVED IN DISCUSSIONS WHILE NEGOTIATION ARE GOING ON THAT PREVENT OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES FROM CONTRACTING THE COURT OR ANYONE ELSE WHILE THOSE NEGOTIATIONS ARE GOING ON UNTIL WE DO THE AWARD. AND SO, WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT NOW FOR THREE MONTHS. >> WHAT IS THE REASON BESIDE WHAT YOU JUST SAID. >> THAT IS THE REASON. >> THE MAIN REASON. >> YES. >> WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT? >> CONDITIONAL SELECTION. LIKE WHEN YOU SELECTS AN ENGINEER -- Y'ALL SELECT AN ENGINEER AND YOU GO BACK AND DO THE CONTRACT. WHILE YOU ARE IN THAT SECTION PROCESS, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DONS. IF THE NEGOTIATIONS ARE GOOD YOU COME BACK AND AWARD THE CONTRACT TO THE ENGINEER. THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE ARE USING FOR THAT. >> NO SO THE AN AUTOMATIC IF WE AG AGREE. >> WE ARE GOING TO HAVE STOP RECEIPTS HERE. WE HAVE ALREADY -- YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALREADY STOPPERED. >> DOING SO GOOD. >>THE COUNCIL IS ADVISING US. >> I THINK WE ARE GOING BEYOND WHAT WE NEED TO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO CALL MICHAEL. FEEL FREE TO GO BACK AND REWIND THE TAPE THAT GAVE THE INFORMATION. >> ON THE PREVIOUS COURT DESCRIBED WHO BID AND WHAT THE AMOUNTS WERE BY AT THAT TIME. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ARE WE GOING OUT ON ALL BIDS. >> ALL PROJECTS IN GENERAL TERMS WE DID GENERAL SELECTION. BRING THAT BACK TO THE COURT. RERECOMMEND CONDITIONAL SELECTION. COURT THEN AFFIRMS THAT SELECTION AND WE INCIDENT EVERY INTO NEGOTIATION AND COME BACK TO DO -- TO DO AWARD AND EXECUTE OF THE CONTRACT. AND THAT IS THE POINT. YOU ALREADY SELECTED WITH SELECTION. AND THE CONTRACT YOU TOLD ME TO GO WORK ON. SO YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DECIDE WHO YOU WANT TO DO WORK WITH OCCURS AT THE TIME OF CONDITIONAL SELECTION. >> WHEN IT COMES TO YOU THIS IS -- JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THIS IS THE LAST ONE WE MADE UNDERCSP. AND UNDER CSP, WE HAVE TO GO THE SCORE THAT ARE AWARDED. AND THAT IS HOW YOU ALL DETERMINE WHO GETS SELECTED. THE VENDOR THAT HAS THE HIGHEST SCORE AND THE LOWEST PRICE. THAT IS WHAT WE BRING TO YOU TO [03:05:05] RECOMMEND UNDER CSP RULES. IN THE FUTURE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ALL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS WILL GO UNDER INVITATION FOR BIDS WHICH IS COMPETITIVE BIDS THAT WE AWARD TO THE LOWEST BIDDER. WE COME TO COURT AND RECOMMEND THE LOW BIDDER. THIS IS THE VERY LAST PROJECT THAT WE WERE DOING USING THAT CSP METHODOLOGY. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THE END OF THAT. [15. Discuss the removal of courtroom chairs from the Nueces County Courthouse and related matters.] THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. MICHAEL, I AM GOING TO MAKE YOU GET UP AGAIN BECAUSE WE SKIPPED ITEM NUMBER 15. WHICH IS A DISCUSSEL -- LISTEN TO ME, A DISCUSSION OF THE COURT HOUSE, COURT ROOM CHAIRS AND RELATED MATTERS. I THINK THAT COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ PUT THIS ON AND KIND OF WAITING FOR YOU TO GIVE HIM A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. I WILL ASK HIM TO ASK YOU THE QUESTION. >> WHAT IS THE QUESTION? . >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: WELL, MIKE, WHEN WE HAD OUR FIRE MARSHAL. I UNDERSTOOD HE TOOK CHARGE OF REMOVING THESE CHAIRS. AND HE HAD ASSISTANCE FROM PEOPLE IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT HE BORROWED SOME INMATES TO REMOVE THOSE CHAIRS, OKAY. SO WHEN I GOT CALLING ASKING FOR THE CHAIRS BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE ASSUMING THAT THEY WOULD GO BACK AND NEED TO GO BACK IN THE COURT ROOMS. AND THERE IS NO CHAIRS TO SHALL HAD. SO I CALLED THE FIRE MARSHAL AND I ASKED HIM. WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THOSE CHAIRS. WHERE ARE THEY. HE SAID -- AND ALSO SAID UNDER WHOSE AUTHORITY TO REMOVE THEM AND GO TO THE PUBLIC WORKS CAGE THAT WAS UNDER LOCK AND KEY AND YOU OPENED THE LOCK. AND REMOVED THOSE CHAIRS. YOU KNOW, HE SHOULD HAVE ASKED SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, IF THOSE CHAIRS WERE GOING TO BE REUSED. AND I ASKED HIM -- WHEN I ASKED HIM UNDER WHOSE AUTHORITY, HE TOLD ME THE JUDGE TOLD HIM TO GO AND REMOVE THINGS THAT WERE FIRE HAZARDS. AND THEN I ASKED HIM -- WHERE -- WHERE DID YOU TAKE THEM? HE SAID THE LANDFILL. SO -- I WORKED DURING PURCHASING. DO YOU STILL NOT HAVE THE PROCEDURE WHERE PEOPLE TURN THEM IN AND YOU CHECK THEM OFF? BECAUSE I KNOW WE USED TO TAG FURNITURE. >> I CAN'T COMMENT ON WHATEVER MIGHT HAVE TRANSPIRED WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL AND THE CHAIRS BECAUSE I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE WHAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED. WHAT I WOULD HAVE NOTIFIED IS AFTER THE CHAIRS HAVE BEEN ALREADY, I GUESS, REMOVED, AND I WAS TASKED WITH FINDING CHAIRS FOR THE COURTS TO PUT IN THEIR AUDIENCE SEATING. THE COUNTY HAS A SURPLUS. AND SALVAGE PROCEDURE FOR ITEMS THAT ARE DEEMED SALVAGEABLE OPINION. I DIDN'T SEE THE CONDITION OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING OF. SO I CAN'T REALLY COMMENT ON WHAT WHETHER THEY WERE SURPLUS SALVAGE OR DEEMED AS TRASH. . >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: NO, BUT THE PROTOCOL IS, THEY NOTIFIED PURCHASING. THEY HAVE THESE EXCESS CHAIRS. AND THE WAY IT USED TO WORK, YOU KNOW, ELSA WOULD SAY BRING WHAT YOU GOT. WE STORE THEM IN THE BACK HALLWAY, AND THEN YOU WOULD DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH THEM. AND WE WOULD THROW -- WOULDN'T GET RID OF ANYTHING. AND THEY WOULD BUY THE. >> I OPPONENT TO HAVE ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL ABOUT THIS. >> ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT THE FIRE MARSHAL COSTS A LOT OF MONEY. AND THE FACT HE NEVER GOT CERTIFIED. WE SPENT THE MONEY. SPENT THE MONEY ON A NEW TRUCK FOR HIM. AND NOW HE -- HE TAKES IT UPON HIMSELF TO GET RIDS OF FURNITURE THAT WE COULD REUSE AGAIN. AND TAKES TO THE LANDFILL. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REMEDY CAN BE OR WHAT. I GUESS THIS COURT WILL DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. IF THEY WANT TO BILL HIM FOR THAT OR WHAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: BECAUSE OF THE LAST STATEMENT, I AM FORCED TO DELVE INTO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ON. NUMBER ONE, THESE CHAIRS ARE NOT CHAIRS THAT HAVE REPLACEMENT PARTS, IS THAT CORRECT? >>. >> CHAIRS THAT ARE USED IN THE [03:10:02] AUDIENCE SEATING ARE THE SAME ONE THAT ARE SETTING IN FRONT OF US TODAY. THEY ARE OBSOLETE. WE DON'T HAVE REPLACEMENT PARTS. WE HAD CHAIRS BREAK IN THE PAST AND I WAS TOLD WE DON'T REPAIR THEM. >>JUDGE CANALES: SYSTEMATICALLY ON THE JURY CHAIRS AND COMPLETED AND IN THE PROCESS AND THEY HAVE BEEN ORDERED. THESE GALLERY CHAIRS ARE ALSO -- A PHASED IN APPROACH FOR THE NEW GALLERY CHAIRS. IS THAT CORRECT? >> THE COUNTY AUDITORS ESTABLISHED A FUND THAT PUTS SOME MONEY INTO TO REPLACE CHAIRS. WE COMPLETED THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE FOR DISTRICTS COURTS AND EVEN BACK TO 2012, THE COURSE WERE ASKING. THEY DIDN'T HAVE FUNDING AT THE TIME AND DIDN'T A HAVE A. AND THEN WE -- THOSE CHAIRS HAVE ALREADY GONE OBSOLETE. AND THE NEXT PLACE TO GO WAS THE AUDIENCE SEATING TO HAVE THOSE REPL REPLACED. >> ALSO THESE CHAIRS ARE NOT ON OUR ASSET LIST. AND NOT ON THE ASSET PROTOCOLS. >> THEY ARE FOR ASSETS ONLY. THE COUNTY I BELIEVE BEFORE I GOT HERE CHANGED THE VALUE OF ASSETS UP FROM 1,000 TO 5,000. AND THEY MADE A LIST OF ITEMS THAT ARE ACTIONS. AND FURNITURE. >> FOR COUNTY TERMS, ANYTHING THAT IS AFFIXED TO THE TOWN IS NOT CONSIDERED AN ASSET. IT IS CONSIDERED PART OF THE BUI BUI BUILDING. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE NOTE NOT AN ASSET AND OBSOLETE AND DON'T HAVE PARTS. ALTHOUGH HE IS NOT HERE TO DEFEND HIMSELF, WE KNOW IN A STATEMENT THAT HE GAVE, THAT HE STATED THAT HE CALLED ROMEO IN PROCUREMENT ABOUT THESE CHAIRS AND HE WAS GREEN LIGHTED IN MAKING CERTAIN THAT HE THOUGHT WHAT HE PERCEIVED WAS A FIRE HAZARD AND ALSO JUST SIMPLY HE DID MAKE THE INQUIRY OF PROCUREMENT AND NEITHER HERE OR THERE. AND WHAT HE RECEIVED, BUT DID MEET THE INQUIRY AND THE CONCEPT WAS NOT TAGGED AND NO INVENTORY AND NO RECORD IT WAS ASSUMED NO LONGER IN USE OR. THAT WAS SOMETHING TO BE DI DISPOSED OF. CAN YOU VERIFY THAT >>I CAN SPEAK ON ROOM MEOW'S BEHALF. >>JUDGE CANALES: IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING. >> OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WERE ASKED -- ROOM MEOW WERE ASKED WHERE THESE ITEMS CAME FROM OR WHO THEY BELONGED TO AND HE SAID HE DID NOT RECOGNIZE THOSE ITEMS BECAUSE ROMEO DOESN'T WORK AND DOESN'T SEE WHAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR SEATING AREA. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WERE DIFFERENT ITEMS BESIDES CHAIRS IN THAT SPACE. AND SO ROMEO'S COMMENT IS THAT HE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE MATERIAL. WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT AND WHAT DECISIONS WERE MADE BEYOND THAT CONVERSATION. >>JUDGE CANALES: UNDERSTOOD. TO THE FACTS OF THE ZERO FACTS ON OUR BOOKS. DISASSEMBLED, NOT TAGGED INVENTORY THAT WAS DISPOSED OF. AND YOU HELPED ME UNDERSTAND THAT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: LET ME JUST -- CAN I SAY SOMETHING, JUDGE? >>JUDGE CANALES: OF COURSE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: MICHAEL, YOU AND I TALKED AND FOR THE RECORD TOO. I THINK I SENT YOU A COPY AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE COPY WITH YOU. BUT I SENT A COPY OF AN ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION. AND THAT OPINION SAID THAT ANY TIME YOU GET RID OF ANY KIND -- EVEN WITH FURNITURE, DIDN'T HAVE TO BE A SSI. BUT IT SAID EVEN FURNITURE -- ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO ABOVE WHAT WE SAY. I KNOW WE SAID $5,000, RIGHT. THAT $5 THOUSAND IN. [03:15:05] WE CAN GET RID OF IT -- THE COMPUTERS AND MARKED AND TAGGED BUT ANYTHING OF VALUE, EVEN FURNITURE. WHATEVER WE GET RID OF IN THIS COUNTY HAS TO HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. RIGHT? >>. >> I DIDN'T READ THIS ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION. I DON'T RECALL SEEING IT. PERHAPS IT IS IN MY E-MAIL IN BOX. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I WILL GIVE YOU A COPY OF IT, BUT I THINK FOR THE RECORD, JUDGE, WE SHOULD FOLLOW AN ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION. AND I THINK IT IS IN OUR POLICY ALSO THAT -- I DON'T CARE IF IT IS IN THE WALL OR NOT IN THE WALL OR WHATEVER IT IS, BUT IF IT IS VALUED OVER $5,000, MIGHT BE SOMETHING BROKEN. I DON'T KNOW THEY WERE ALL BROKEN. THAT IS A LOT OF CHAIRS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 50 CHAIRS, MAYBE, OR MORE. BUT I AM SURE THERE WEREN'T 50 CHAIRS THAT WERE BROKEN. SOME OF THE JUDGES WERE ASKING BACK FOR THEM. BUT AGAIN WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINIONS, ANYTHING THAT GETS DISPOSED IN THIS COUNTY OR GET RID OF WILL COME TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR APPROVAL. >> SO ON THAT POINT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PURCHASING POLICY FOR SALVAGE AND SURPLUS PROPERTY. THIS COURT HAS APPOINTED ME TO BE THE PERSON THAT ADMINISTER STRAITS THAT ACTIVITY. ON BEHALF OF THE COURT. SO THE COURT DOES NOT GET INDIVIDUAL ACTIONS BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE TIME A CHAIR COMES TO MY OFFICE. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I DIDN'T SAY A CHAIR. I SAID VALUE OVER $5,000. BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A POLICY ANYTHING UNDER $5,000 WE CAN GET RID OF. THAT IS OUR POLICY. ANYTHING ABOVE THAT NEEDS TO COME TO COMMISSIONERS COURT. I DON'T REMEMBER GIVING YOU THE AUTHORITY TO GIVE -- GET RID OF WHATEVER YOU WANT TO GET RID OF. >> YOU DIDN'T GIVE IT TO ME. THAT POLICY WAS BEFORE I GOT HERE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: IF IT IS NOT IN OUR POLICY THAT IT CAN BE DONE, IT NEEDS TO COME TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. >> SO WHAT I WOULD SAY TO TRY TO OFFER SOME HELP IN THIS AREA IS IF THE COURT HAS SUGGESTIONS TO -- TO ADD LANGUAGE TO THAT SALVAGE AND SURPLUS PROPERTY, Y'ALL CAN PROVIDE THAT TO ME IN WRITING AND I CAN GIVE THAT TO THE PURCHASING BOARD. AND IF THE PURCHASING BOARD DEEMS IT NECESSARY TO UPDATE THE POLICY, WE CAN UPDATE THE POLICY AND COME BACK TO THIS COURT AND THE COURT CAN ADOPT THAT UPDATED POLICY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I DON'T KNOW ABOUT UPDATING THE POLICY BECAUSE IT IS ALREADY THERE. WE CAN'T GET RID OF $5,000 AND UNDER. AND EVERYTHING -- TELLS YOU EVERYTHING ABOVE THAT HAS TO COME TO COMMISSIONERS COURT. I MEAN, IT IS NOT LIKE IT IS IN A DIFFERENT POLICY. IT IS ALREADY THERE. >> I AM TELLING -- YOU NEED TO READ THE POLICY. STATES THAT Y'ALL HAVE GIVEN THE AUTHORITY TO MY OFFICE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I IMAGINE FOR CARS, IN PARTICULAR -- FOR CAR THAT'S GET EXCHANGED AND EQUIPMENT, THAT IS WHERE IT COMES INTO PLAY. WE HAVE NOT HAD A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM IN A LONG TEAM THAT DEALS WITH THAT. SO WHAT HE IS SAYING THAT YOUR POLICY IS BEING ADHERED TOO. AND ANOTHER POLICY THAT ALREADY EXISTS. AND HE IS FOLLOWING IT. >> SO, YES, EVERY TIME YOU SAY YOU WANT PUBLIC WORKS TO BUY EQUIPMENT AND TRADE IN EQUIPMENT TO GET A DISCOUNT ON THE PRICE THAT THEY ARE PAYING. THAT IS ON THE AGENDA. IT IS BROUGHT TO THE COURT. YOU GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE VALUE OF THE ITEM THAT THE TRADE-IN IS BEING PROPOSED. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU SAID THE KEY WORD. BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. >> YES, FOR VEHICLES, YES, BECAUSE THEY FIT THE OVER $5,000 CATEGORY. SO WE BRING THEM TO YOU. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: TALKING OVER $40,000. >> ON THE VALUE OF THE ASSETS ARE NOT DETERMINED BY THE CONGREGATE VALUE. THEY ARE DETERMINED BY THE INDIVIDUAL ASSET. THE INDIVIDUAL CHAIR -- LIKE EACH ONE OF THESE CHAIRS, THEY HAVE TO BE OVER THE $5,000 TO FIT THAT CATEGORY. AND THOSE INDIVIDUAL CHAIRS ARE NEVER GOING TO AMOUNT TO THAT. AND I THINK THAT IS WHY THE PREVIOUS AUDITOR MISS HAYES INCREASED THAT VALUE AND EACH OF THE INVENTORY WAS PURGED AND THAT WILL TELL YOU THAT THE COURT VOTED ON APPROVING THE CHANGE OF THE ASSET VALUE AT THAT TIME. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WAS THAT PART OF THE ORDER OF THE COURT? >> YES, THE COURT DID IT. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. I WAS HERE AND I DON'T REMEMBER THEM COMING AND SAYING THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHY DON'T YOU GRAB IT SO EVERYBODY CAN HAVE IT. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THERE WAS NO --. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I WOULD LIKE -- EXPENSIVE ITEM, I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO COME TO COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR APPROVAL. WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE AS FAR AS A TOLE SEE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: LET ME [03:20:01] RECOGNIZE YOU IN JUST A SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I THINK RIGHT NOW WHAT I READ IN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'SES OPINION, THAT INCLUDES FURNITURE. AND YOU MIGHT -- YOU MIGHT GO BACK TO THE POLICY, BUT I AM TELLING YOU IF WE GET -- A TRUE OPINION AND ATTORNEY GENERAL. HE IS GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY INCLUDE EVERYTHING. >>JUDGE CANALES: STILL A DISCONNECT AND I WILL ASK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO AT LEAST -- WE CAN ADDRESS THIS WHENEVER, BUT A MAJOR DISCONNECT. THE VALUE OF THE CHAIRS DID NOT EXCEED $5,000. DID NOT RECEIVE FAIR MARKET VALUE OF $5,000. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU ARE WRONG. >>JUDGE CANALES: I HAVE ASKED. I ASKED DALE. I ASKED THE PEOPLE THAT VALUE THIS ASSETS AND IS IT DID NOT --. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: VALUE -- I DON'T KNOW THAT DALE DID THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: EXCUSE ME ONE SECOND. DALE ABSOLUTELY VALUES IT. THAT IS WHO YOU WE GET THE ASSET DETERMINATION. THAT IS HOW -- THAT IS HOW THAT HAPPENS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: IT DIDN'T GO THROUGH DALE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM SAYING TO YOU NO ASSET THAT WAS DISPOSED OF THAT REACHED THAT AMOUNT. NOW THAT --. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THAT'S YOUR OPINION. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT IS NO THE AN OPINION. YOU HAVE TO ASK PROCUREMENT AND ASK DALE WHAT THE VALUE IS. IT DIDN'T RISE TO AN ASSET LEVEL. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION IS BEING ADHERED TO THROUGH OUR OWN POLICIES. AND THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE. BUT IF YOU NEED CLARIFICATION ON IT, THEN YOU CAN GET CLARIFICATION. THE POLICIES ARE IN ACTION AND BEING A HEERDZ TOO. >>JUDGE CANALES: MAY I RECOGNIZE YOU, ARE MR. HERNANDEZ. . >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: YES, YOU CAN. >>JUDGE CANALES: GO AHEAD. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: MIKE, HOW MUCH MONEY HAVE WE SPENT TO REPLACE THOSE CHAIRS? >> WE HAVEN'T SPENT TOO MUCH. >> WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE EQUIPMENT IN YET. WE JUST GOT QUOTES. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: WHAT KIND OF QUOTES. >> SO THE VALUE OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE BEING PUT IN WHICH ARE BRAND-NEW ITEMS AROUND $46,000 FOR THREE COURTS. THAT IS THREE COURTS WORTH OF AUDIENCE SEATING. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: HOW DO THEY SELL THOSE CHAIRS IN A ROW OR INDIVIDUALLY? >> INDIVIDUALLY. EACH PART. EVEN THE LITTLE BRACKETS THAT ATTACH TO THEM IF THEY ARE PART OF AN ASSEMBLY, EACH PIECE IS CHARGED TO US SEPARATELY. SO IT IS THE VALUE OF EACH INDIVIDUAL PIECE. AND THERE IS NO VALUE ON THE FURNITURE THAT IS GOING TO QUALIFY IT AS AN ASSET. >>JUDGE CANALES: SAME THING WITH OUR JURY CHAIRS. WE ALSO PURCHASED THEM THAT WAY AS WELL. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: FIVE CHAIRS IN ROWS. >> THEY ARE NOT BOUGHT IN ROWS. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I UNDERSTAND INDIVIDUALLY. >> WHATEVER THE NUMBER OF SEATS A ARE. I WOULD ALSO OFFER THAT, YOU KNOW, ANY TIME THAT FOLKS ARE GETTING NEW FURNITURE FROM OUR OFFICE, IF THEY DON'T NEED THEIR OLD FURNITURE, WE TAKE IT BACK. IF IT CAN BE REUSED OR REASSIGNED TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. IF THE ARMS ARE MESSED UP, WE WILL REMOVE THE ARMS IF WE ARE ABLE TO. SOME CHAIRS, YOU CAN'T REMOVE THE ARMS WITHOUT DESTROYING THE CHAIR. IN THOSE CASES, ITEMS ARE DEEMED AS WASTE AND THEY GO FOR TRASH. LIKE I SAID, I DIDN'T SEE THE CONDITION OF THE ITEMS IN QUESTION. SO I CAN'T TELL YOU WHETHER THEY WERE TRASH OR NOT OPINION. BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SEE THEM MYSELF. BUT I DO KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THEY ARE OBJECT SOLUTE ITEMS THAT WE CAN'T BUY REPLACEMENT PARTS FOR. THE OTHER THING I WOULD ADD -- AND MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS WHEN WE ARE TALKING OF THE PROCEDURES TO HELP THINGS IN THE FUTURE. SO IF PUBLIC WORKS IS CHARGED WITH REMOVING ITEM FROM A SPACE, THE -- BECAUSE THEY ARE ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING AND THEY ARE GOING TO STORE THEM SOMEWHERE, THERE SHOULD BE SOME SIGNAGE PLACED ON IT THAT THIS IS GOING TO GO BACK TO ANOTHER LOCATION. NORMALLY ITEMS ARE TURNED INTO PURCHASING, RIGHT, FOR US TO TAKE POSITION. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I KNOW THAT PART. >> BUT IF THEY ARE NEVER INTENDS TO COME TO PURCHASING. IF PUBLIC WORKS IS REMOVING THEM MAYBE TO PAINT WALLS OR REPLACE A FLOOR AND THEY ARE GOING TO STICK THEM IN THE HALLWAY OR SOMETHING, THEY SHOULD HAVE A SIGN ON THEM SAYING THESE BELONG TO 117 DISTRICT COURT SO IT IS VERY CLEAR FOR THOSE WHO WILL GO BY THIS IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: UNDER LOCK AND KEY IN PUBLIC WORKS STORAGE AREA. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUAN, CAN YOU SIT DOWN -- I WILL GET TO YOU. THE WAY IT WORKS HERE IS THAT I CALL ON EVERYBODY. AND IT MAKES FOR A BETTER DECORUM. GIVE ME JUST A SECOND. LET HIM FINISH. REMEMBER. GO AHEAD. >> I AM NOT MAKING ANY ACCUSATIONS AT ALL. [03:25:04] >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU ARE SAYING A GOOD NEW PROCEDURE. >> I AM OFFERING AS A POSSIBILITY TO TRY TO PREVENT SOMETHING THAT FROM HAPPENING TO LABEL THINGS THAT ARE IN THE HALLWAY. WE WALK BY THE HALLWAYS. WE SEE STUFF IN THE HALLWAY. I DON'T ASSUME IT BELONGS TO PURCHASING SO I DON'T REMOVE IT FROM THE HALLWAY. I LEAVE IT THERE. IF IT HAD A SIGN ON IT THAT IT IS GOING SOMEWHERE.ME I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR AN AVERAGE PERSON TO KNOW THAT IT BELONGS TO SOMEBODY. NO SIGN ON IT. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT CONDITION IT WAS PLACED IN AND BEHIND A LOCKED DOOR AND LOCKED ROOM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS CHUNKED IN A PILE OR NEATLY PLACED AND HAD A SIGN AROUND IT SAYING THIS BELONGS TO SO AND SO. I DIDN'T GET TO SEE ANY OF IT, SO I CAN'T REALLY COMMENT ON -- ON WHAT I WOULD HAVE DECIDED TO DO. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: YOU SEE THAT IN THE HALLWAY, YOU DON'T TOUCH IT. >> I DON'T THINK ITEMS SHOULD BE PLACED IN THE HALLWAY. >> YOU SAY YOU SEE IT IN THE HALLWAY, YOU DON'T TOUCH IT. >> THAT IS ME PERSONALLY. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SAME THING IN A STORAGE ROOM THAT IS LOCKED. YOU DON'T TOUCH IT. THERE FOR A PURPOSE. FOR A REASON. >> LIKE I SAID, I CAN'T COMMENT ON THE PERSON THAT MADE THAT DECISION AT THAT TIME. I WASN'T THAT PERSON. I DON'T WANT THIS TO GET DEFLECTED TOWARD ME IN ANY WAY. WE WEREN'T THERE TO WITNESS WHAT WAS GOING ON AND WHAT CONDITION WAS THERE. SO I CAN'T --. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: ALL RIGHT, MIKE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPLANATION. >>JUDGE CANALES: I GOT A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER CHESNEY FOR MICHAEL. AND ALSO FROM COMMISSIONER MAREZ HERE. I AM GOING TO LET COMMISSIONER CHESNEY GO FIRST, COMMISSIONER MAREZ, BECAUSE I SAW HIS HAND. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, GO AHEAD NOW. YOU WILL HAVE -- THERE YOU GO. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MICHAEL, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY CHAIRS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE? >>. >> I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER, SIR. I WOULD ASSUME IF THE COURT ROOM IS A SIMILAR SIZE TO THIS COURT ROOM, IT WOULD HAVE A SIMILAR AMOUNT OF CHAIRS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN COMMISSIONERS COURT. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: ONE SETS OF COURT ROOM CHAIRS OR FOUR SETS OF COURT ROOM CHAIRS? >> I WAS ASKED TO PURCHASE CHAIRS FOR THREE COURTS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THREE COURT ROOMS WORTH OF CHAIRS. AND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING -- DID YOU SAY YOU WERE OBSOLETE SINCE YOU NEVER SAW THEM? >> I HAVE SEEN CHAIRS IN THE COURT ROOM -- I AM LOOKING AT THEM RIGHT NOW. THEY ARE OBSOLETE -- OBSOLETE BECAUSE INFORMATION FROM JUAN PIMENTAL'S OFFICE. WHEN CHAIRS BROKE IN JUDGE WATTS -- I DON'T REMEMBER HER COURT OR JUDGE MADERI. I WAS INFORMED THAT THEY WOULD NOT BUY THE REPLACEMENT BRACKET BECAUSE IT WAS NOT AVAILABLE ON THE MARKET ANYMORE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: DOESN'T MEAN ALL OF THEM WERE NOT USABLE BUT ONE ROW OF THEM -- I CAN'T BELIEVE THREE COURT ROOMS, EVERY CHAIR WAS OBSOLETE. >> WHEN I SAY --. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: LET ME FINISH WHAT I AM SAYING, OTHER THAN JUST THROWING THEM AWAY. WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT THEY COULD HAVE HAD SOME USE LIKE -- DONATE TO CHARITY. DONATE TO SOMEBODY. WE HAVE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME COMING IN ASKING FOR THINGS THAT THEY NEED. SO IT IS KINDS OF HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THREE COURT ROOMS FULL OF CHAIRS COULD HAVE BEEN DISPOSED OF AND DIDN'T HAVE A VALUE OF OVER $5,000. SO I AM KIND OF QUESTIONS THIS -- UNDER $5,000 VALUE. SO I GUESS I WILL ASK DALE SINCE -- I HEARD DALE'S NAME MENTION TOO THAT THE A FOR SAID OBSOLETE AND WORTH LESS THAN $5,000. DALE, DID YOU SAY THAT TOO OR DO YOU KNOW THAT? >> NO. THE WAY WE INTERPRET THE CHAIRS IN QUESTION. THEY ARE NOT CONSIDERED A CAPITAL ASSET BECAUSE THEY ARE FIXED TO THE BUILDING. ACCORDING TO THE COUNTY RULES AFFIXED TO THE BUILDING, THE FLOOR, THE WALLS. THEY BECOME THE BUILDING. WE DON'T HAVE THEM LISTED AS FIXED ASSET. THE ONLY WAY TO DETERMINE THE COST IS REPLACEMENT VALUE. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THE REPLACEMENT VALUE WAS SUBSTANTIALLY OVER $5,000. UNDER YOUR LOGIC, THE REPLACEMENT VALUE WILL BE HOUB Y HOW YOU WOULD DO THE CHAIRS? >> WOULD NOT SHALL CONSIDERED AN ASSET BECAUSE EVERYTHING COMES IN PIECES AN PARTS AND YOU WILL HAVE TO EVALUATE EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY, BUT THE REPLACEMENT VALUE OF THE CHAIRS IN QUESTION AROUND 50 TO 60,000. I DIDN'T QUITE GET THE TOTAL. [03:30:01] NOT CONSIDERED AN ASSET BUT STILL -- STILL A COST TO THE COUNTY. >>JUDGE CANALES: TO SO DALE -- COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. CAN I DO A FOLLOW-UP SO IT MAKES MORE SENSE. IF WE HAVE -- IF WE HAVE A VEHICLE, AND WE GER TO SAYS IT AN OLD VEHICLE, AND IT IS GOING TO GETS SENT TO SURPLUS FOR SAL VAN, WE ARE NOT SEEK, ARE WE, THAT THE REPLACEMENT VALUE OF THE VEHICLE IS THE VALUE OF THE OLD VEHICLE. IN OTHER WORDS, LET'S GET A -- TO MAKE SURE I KNOW YOU DON'T THINK THAT EITHER, COMMISSIONER. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YEAH, I DON'T THINK IF YOU REPLACE OLD CHAIRS WITH $50,000 WORTH OF NEW CHAIRS THAT MAKES THE OLD CHAIRS WORTH $50 THOUSAND IN. I DON'T THINK IT IS WORTH UNDER $5,000 EITHER. I WOULD SAY TO MRCHING THAT -- YOU KNOW -- TO PURCHASING THAT WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS OCCURS AND QUESTIONS, IF SOMEBODY IS DISPOSING OF A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ASSETS, THAT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE, YOU KNOW, NEED TO KNOW ABOUT SO WE ARE NOT SPENDING A LOT OF TIME DOING THIS. BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO WASTE TAXPAYER DOLLARS. AND I THINK THERE IS NO QUESTION IN MY MIND THAT THESE CHAIRS WERE IN SOME WAY, SHAPE AND FORM WORTH $5,000 AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTICED AS SUCH. AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DON'T WANT TO SPEND THE REST OF THE DAY TALKING ABOUT THESE CHAIRS BECAUSE THEY ARE GONE. BUT I HEAR WHAT THE COMMISSIONERS ARE SAYING, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO TIGHTEN THIS UP SO WE DON'T GET OURSELVES CAUGHT IN THE POSITION WHY DID YOU LET THIS FIRE MARSHAL GET RID OF ALL THESE CHAIRS. AND WE ARE CAUGHT OFF GUARD AND ITS A HARD THING. WE NEED TO MAYBE LOOK AT REVIEWING THE POLICIES. WE MAY NEED TO LOOK AT REVAMPING HOW PURCHASING WORKS. BECAUSE A LOT OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, PURCHASING GETS TO DO. BECAUSE THEY REPORT TO A PURCHASING BOARD. AND AS MICHAEL IS AWARE, I HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH HIM. I PLAN TO PUT THE AGENDA ITEM TO LOOK AT REFURBISHING AND RESHAPING THE WAY IT WORKS. AND THE LAW PROVIDES US TO DO THAT. AND SO I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS HARD WHEN WE GOT THE AGENCIES. GOOD GUY AND DOESN'T REPORT TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND PUTS US IN A TOUGH SPOT SOMETIMES WITH SITUATIONS LIKE THESE. SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THIS. I THINK THE CHAIRS ARE WORTH MORE THAN $5,000. I THINK IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THE COURT. AT THE SAME TIME, I CAN SEE WHY SOMEONE MAY THINK THAT IT WASN'T WORTH THAT BASED ON POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. THIS COULD BE ONE OF TH THOSE TWEENOR GRAY AREAS THAT WE NEED TO FIX BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN ANYMORE, THANK YOU. >> SO JUST TO CLARIFY -- >>JUDGE CANALES: HOLD ON, I HAVE COMMISSIONER --. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I APPRECIATE THE TIME WE ARE PUTTING INTO. THE COMMISSIONER HAS BEEN PATIENT IN THE DELAY THAT'S COME AND HAPPEN BECAUSE THEY HAPPENED, LIFE HAS HAPPENED. BUT I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CHESNEY ON A LOT OF WHAT HE IS SAYING. I AGREE WITH THE OVERALL SENTIMENT THAT WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL OF ANYTHING THAT IS WASTEFUL, RIGHT. THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT. I AGREE THAT IT MAY BE SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN. YOU LEARN FROM MISTAKES AND LEARN FROM SOMETHING THAT WAS INTENTIONAL, INDIANA TENSIONIAL. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT BECAUSE THE FORMER FIRE MARSHAL IS NO LONGER HERE AND FOR YOU TO GIVE ANSWERS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW. I WAS GOING TO PUT IT ON MY KIDS WITH -- BUT I WILL PUT IT ON MYSELF. I WAS A CHILD AND WANTED TO GET PERMISSION I WOULD FIND MY PARENT WHEREVER THEY WERE AT IN THE HOUSE AND YARD AND AS LONG AS THEY DIDN'T SAY NO, AND I YELLED OUT THE QUESTION I WAS FREE TO DO WHATEVER I WANT. MAYBE THAT HAPPENED WITH THE AUTHORITY OF IT, BUT IT HAPPENED. ALL WE CAN DO IS MOVE FORWARD. THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DO. WE COULD ACCOMPLISH GOOD POLICIES TO TIGHTEN UP IN AREAS AND GET BETTER CLARIFICATION. IF THERE IS AN ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION OUT THERE, MAKE SURE THAT MATCHES WITH THE OPINION THAT OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY IS GIVING TO US.. AND GIVES US DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. I KNOW WE NEED TO LOOK BACK AND SAY WHAT HAPPENS. IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ILL-ADVISED AND -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY ILLEGAL, BUT IF IT WERE TO THAT POINT, I WOULDN'T WANT TO SAY TO IGNORE IT, BUT I THINK WE CAN LEARN FROM THIS PROCESS HERE. AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT MORE ON YOU. I THINK YOU ARE WORKING WITHIN THE REALMS THAT YOU HAVE BASED ON THOSE POLICIES. I DO AGREE. I THINK PROPERTY DOES DECREASE VALUE OVER TIME. HOW IS THAT DETERMINED? WE NEED TO SHORE THAT UP. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A POLICY WHERE WE APPROVE EVERYTHING. EVERY NUT AND BOLT. THAT IS NOT PRACTICAL. I DO SEE WHY THAT IS A LIMITS. I AGREE, THIS IS MAYBE ONE OF [03:35:05] THOSE AREAS NOT THE VALUE OF THE 45,000, BUT MAYBE MORE THAN THE $5,000? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE -- HOW WE GET TO THAT. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I THINK THIS IS A VERY VALUABLE ITEM. I KNOW WE CAN PROBABLY PUT A LOT MORE TIME IN IT, BUT I AM OF THE MINDSSET THAT WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION AGAIN AND WE ARE ALL GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING AGAIN AT A FUTURE POINT. SO MAYBE WE -- STAFF AND EVERYONE AND GOD AND EVERYONE ELSE HAS HEARD WHAT WE ARE SAYING HERE. LET'S PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER SO WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION WR TWEAK ARE, RATIFY POLICY AND HAVE SOMETHING SUBSTANTIAL THAT WE CAN SAY WE GAINED OUT OF THIS EXPERIENCE, BECAUSE I DON'T -- I THINK -- YOU KNOW, WE GOT -- WE ALWAYS HAVE SO MUCH ON MILES PER HOUR PLATE. I AM NOT TRYING TO DEFLECT THAT, BUT I THINK WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AGAIN. AN WE ARE ALL GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING AGAIN AND MAYBE EVEN LEARN MORE AND HAVE MORE POINTS OR COUNTER POINTS TO MAKE. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GETS US MOVING ALONG. I THINK WE ALL SAID WHERE WE ARE AT. AND WITHIN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS OR MONTHS THAT WE CAN GET SOMETHING IN PLACE SO THAT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. SO IF THERE IS A QUESTION THAT WE KNOW HOW TO RESPOND AND THIS IS WHY IT HAPPENED. AND SO I JUST REALLY WANT TO KINDS OF GEAR US TOWARD THAT. BECAUSE JUAN WANTS TO CHIME IN. LIKE I SAID, THERE WILL BE AN ACTUAL DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEM AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE WHENEVER THAT IS AND THAT'S WHEN WE WILL TALK IT ALL OVER. IF WE CAN, I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD FROM THIS. AND ALL AGREE THAT WE WILL BRING THIS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ACTUAL POLICY INSIGHT AND NOT JUST DISCUSSION ABOUT -- KIND OF RANDOM ON WHAT HAPPENED. LET'S MAKE THINGS HAPPEN TODAY AND THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN, WE CAN'T MAKE ANYTHING HAPPEN TODAY OTHER THAN GIVE DIRECTION TO EVERYONE THAT IS HERE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD AND SHORE THIS UP. SO THAT IS JUST KIND OF MY COMMENTS. I DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T INTEND FOR THEM TO BE THE END, BUT AT LEAST THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO CHIME IN BEFORE YOU GAVE ANY MORE COMMENT. I DIDN'T WANT TO CUT YOU OFF, THIS IS WHERE I AM AT. WE WERE GOING TO KEEP GOING AND WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF ITEMS THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCUSSION AND ACTUALLY CAN BE ACTED UPON TODAY RATHER THAN JUST ONE ITEM THAT IS LISTED AS DISCUSSION ONLY. . >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: COMMISSIONER I AGREE WITH YOU. ALL I AM SAYING ALL OF US THAT SIT UP HERE HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE TASK BY TAXPAYERS AND CONSTITUENTS TO BE FRUGAL WITH TAXPAYER MONEY. WE ALL HAVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY. NOW I TAKE IT AS MY RESPONSIBILITY TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I SIT HERE. WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHATEVER GOES ON THE COURTHOUSE. IN ANY RESPECTS. WHETHER WE GOT TO PAY FOR A LAWSUIT OR WHATEVER WITH WE DO. BUT THIS IS WHY I AM ASKING BECAUSE THE PEOPLE I REPRESENT ARE ASKING. THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO SPEND OUR MONIES BETTER THAN WHAT WE ARE TAKING CARE OF THEIR MONIES. SO WITH THAT -- I WILL PUT IT TO BED. I'M SATISFIED WITH YOUR -- WITH YOUR STATEMENT, YOUR REASON. AND I WILL ASK JUAN TO SEE WHAT HE HAS GOT IF YOU ARE DONE. >> SO JUST TO -- TO PUT THIS ALSO -- I WANT TO REASSURE THE COUNTY THAT WE HAVE BEEN DURING THIS -- HE BEEN WITH THE COUNTY SINCE 2008. NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES ON THIS SUBJECT. I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE A PROBLEM. THE I HONESTLY DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE A POLICY ISSUE EITHER AND I AM HAPPY TO HAVE SUGGESTIONS TO IMPROVE IT. BUT WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT CONTROL OF ITEMS THAT WERE NOT BURNED TOO PURCHASING. WHATEVER HAPPENS TO THOSE MOVED TO WORK SPACE TO LOCATION, I THINK THAT IS AN AREA WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT AS FAR AS WHAT INSTRUCTIONS WE WANTS TO GIVE OF HOW TO TREAT THOSE, AND THAT SPECIFICALLY IN THAT CASE WILL PROBABLY HAVE HELPED THE MOST. CHANGING THE VALUE OF AN ASSET IN MY OFFICE IS NOT GOING TO HELP ME IF ITEMS ARE BEING MOVED INTO THE HALLWAY AND THIS HE DISAPPEAR BEFORE THEY GET BACK TO THEIR HOME WHEN THEY DIDN'T COME TO PURCHASING. THAT RULE CHANGE WILL HAVE ZERO EFFECT ON THAT SITUATION. BUT I THINK -- AND MAYBE JUAN CAN SPEAK TO WHAT HIS OPINIONS ARE ABOUT HOW TO ADDRESS THAT -- WOULD ACTUALLY HELP IN THAT WAY. AND I AM HAPPY TO WORK WITH JUAN IF HE WANTS ME TO HELP WITH WRITING SOMETHING OR MAKING SUGGESTIONS OR IF HE -- I AM [03:40:01] SURE HE IS CONFIDENT AND ABLE TO MAKE HIS OWN DETERMINATION HERE AND I SUPPORT THAT FULLY. SO THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, MICHAEL, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, JUAN. AND IF YOU CAN BE BRIEF SO THAT -- WE NEED -- I HAVE GOT A 12:00 DEAD DEADLINE. >> YES, MA'AM, I WILL BE BRIEF. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CHAIRS THAT WERE REMOVED WERE REMOVED BECAUSE OF COVID. AND IT WAS -- THEY WERE FOR THE FOUR DISTRICT COURTS. AND THEY WERE PLACED UNDER LOCK AND KEY UNDER OUR AREA. AND NOT ONLY DID THEY THROW AWAY THOSE CHAIRS, BUT THEY WENT TO THE FIFTH FLOOR AND THEY THREW AWAY SOME PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT WERE UNDER LOCK AND KEY UNDER OUR LOCK AND KEY. SO THEY KIND OF INVADED OUR SPACE. SO I WAS HOPE THAT IN THE FUTURE, THAT THERE WILL BE SOME THIS TYPE OF WRITTEN DOCUMENT THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T GO SOMEBODY ELSE'S SPACE THROWING STUFF AWAY THAT WASN'T YOUR DEPARTMENT. AND THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED HERE, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE. SOMEBODY WENT IN THERE AND WENT INTO OUR SPACE WHEN IT WAS UNDER LOCK AND KEY -- AND I TALKED TO BOBBY AND THOSE CHAIRS WERE IN GOOD CONDITION. NOTHING WRONG WITH THEM. AND THEY DID -- THEY DID HAVE A TAG ON A THEM JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE CHAIRS THAT ARE HERE. THEY DID HAVE A TAG ON THEM. AND WE DON'T THROW ANYTHING AWAY. I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR FOUR YEARS. OUR PROCESS IS, IF WE THROW ANYTHING AWAY, RECORD IT WITH MICHAEL. WE COMMIT PAPER WORK. WE DOCUMENT. ANYTHING THAT WE THROW AWAY GOES THROUGH THE PROPER PROCEDURES. THANK YOU. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: JUAN, WHAT IS THE VALUE. >> OVER $#,000. NOT ONLY THAT, THEY -- OVER $5,000. NOT ONLY THAT BUT THEY THREW AWAY OTHER STUFF AND FROM OUR CAN HE SURD AREA IN THE FIFTH FLOOR. IT WAS UNDER LOCK AND SECURED IN THE FIFTH FLOOR. IT WAS UNDER LOCK AND KEY AND THE FIRE MARSHAL WENT IN THERE WITH THE MASTER KEY AND WENT AND INVADED OUR SPACE. TWO SPACES AND THREW AWAY THE TWO GOOD ITEMS THAT WE HAD -- NOT EYE 2E78S BUT THEY WERE IN GOOD CONDITION THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THROWN AWAY. THANK YOU. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THANK YOU, JUAN. >>JUDGE CANALES: IN THE INTEREST OF MOVING ON. WE WILL JUST MOVE ON. LOTS TO SAY OF THE FOLLOWING STATEMENTS THAT WE JUST HEARD. I WILL JUST PUT IT ON THE RECORD THAT THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED A RULE OF COMPLETENESS. WE JUST VIOLATED IT. BUT ANY RATE, LET'S MOVE ON. ITEM NUMBER 17 IS DISCUSSION AND CONSIDER SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. THAT WILL HAVE TO BE DONE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, JENNY? >> YES. AND I -- I BELIEVE -- I GUESS TANYA WILL BE HERE FOR THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: ITEM NUMBER 18 IS THE ONE WE SAID WE WOULD HAVE A TIME FRAME FOR DR. FAGAN. HOLD THAT THOUGHT. ITEM 19 AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM AND ITEM 20. SO FOR YOU FOLLOWING EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR ITEM 19, ITEM 20, [1. Discuss and consider requesting No Cost Time Extension from FEMA for the DR-4245-0007 award for the Nueces County Emergency Generators for Sheriff Station and Jail.] AND 17 ARE ALL GOING TO GO IN EXECUTIVE. AND WHAT I THOUGHT I WOULD DO -- BECAUSE I SAW ANA. SHE ONLY HAS ONE ITEM. I WOULD LIKE TO ADVANCE HER ITEM TO GET BACK UPSTAIRS. B-1. I DON'T THINK IT WILL TAKE YOU TOO LONG, ANA. BECAUSE THE SHERIFF HAS BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY AND A NO COST TIME EXTENSION. FOR THE RECORD GRANTS 4250007. THIS A FEMA AWARD FOR GENERATESERS FOR THE STATION -- AGAIN NO TIME EXTENSION. ANA. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO HOLD HARD TO THAT 12:00 DEADLINE. I DIDN'T MEAN TO CIRCUMVENT. I THINK WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS MEETING PRETTY QUICK. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU FOR THAT. LET ANA AND I WILL DO THE BEST I CAN. >> BASICALLY JUST THE NO COST EXTENSION OF THE TERM OF THIS IS AUK -- THE COMPLETION OF WORK WILL BE DONE BY AUGUST # 1 OF THIS YEAR, 2022. AND I -- -- AUGUST 31 OF THIS YEAR 2022. THEY ARE STILL WORKING ON IT AND PLAN TO COMPLETE IT BY SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER. AND WE ARE GOING TO ASK AN EXTENSION TO DECEMBER 31, 2022. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU SO MUCH, ANA. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS THIS NO COST TIME EXTENSION [03:45:04] REQUEST. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SECOND SGLP. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. JUAN LEFT. I DON'T KNOW IF HE WANTS TO COME BACK. SHOULD WE GO INTO -- IF WE GO INTO THE DR. FAGAN, I WILL HAVE TO ASK FOR A MOTION FOR A LITTLE BATHROOM BREAK. IS JUAN IN THE HALLWAY? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WELL THE AUDITOR STUFF COULD BE PRETTY QUICK. >>JUDGE CANALES: DO THE AUDITOR UNTIL JUAN GETS BACK. LET ME JUST ASK DEPUTY REAL QUICK-LIKE. NO, HE LET'S? THEY WILL GO GET HIM. [1. Recognize a change in broker dealer name from First Tennessee Bank to First Horizon Bank.] ITEM D. AUDITOR. FEW ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR. FIRST IS A CHANGE IN A SIMPLE TIME. FROM FIRST TENNESSEE BANK TO FIRST HORIZON BANK. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO MOVED. >> ONE OF OUR BROKERS AND WE JUST WANTED TO CHANGE THE NAME. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST CHANGE THE [2. Approve Monthly Financial Report for the month of April 2022.] NAME. A MOTION FROM CHESNEY AND I WILL SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. A MONTHLY FINANCIAL FROM APRIL OF 2022. .<,NEW LINE>>> I'LL TRY TO BE QUICK ON THIS. GO TO PAGE 4 AND 5, OUR ASSET BALANCE FOR THE GO EN RALE FUND. FUND BALANCE IS 62,780,464. YOU COMPARE TO THE BAR CHARTS. THEY ARE ABOUT WHERE WE HAVE BEEN THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. IT SEEMS HIGH, AND WE WILL CONTINUE OUR NORMAL PROCESS FOR THIS. THE NEXT IMPORTANT VALUES ON PAGE 10 AND 11 WHERE OUR HEALTH INSURANCE FUNDS ARE, GENERAL LIABILITY AND THE GOOD NAME IS OUR HEALTH INSURANCE HAS A STRONG FUND WAS BALANCE OF $2.4 MILLION. SO IF WE PUT THAT ADDITIONAL 1.7 MILLION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT FROM ARPA MONEY WILL BE CLOSE TODAY 3 MILLION TODAY 4 MILLION IN OUR FUND BALANCE. THERE CAN BE CATASTROPHIC LOSS FROM ANY KIND OF MEDICAL INSURANCE THAT WE HAVE, BUT SOMETHING WE NEED TO WATCH OVER AND CONTINUE. ON PAGE 16, WE SEE OUR BALANCES -- WHERE OUR INCOME IS FOR OUR REVENUE 87% OF OUR COLLECTIONS AND TAXES AT 96%. THAT IS VERY STRONG FOR OUR TAXES WHERE WE ARE AT IN OUR CURRENT FISCAL YEAR FOR THE BALANCE THAT WE HAVE. WE GO TO THE EXPENDITURES. NOT MANY DEPARTMENTS OVER BUDGET. FIRST ONE ON PAGE 28. OUR I.T. DEPARTMENT. MASS A DEPARTMENT REQUEST THAT THEIR VALUES WENT UP BECAUSE OF THEIR SOFTWARE AS GOING TO SOME OF THE PLATFORMS. AND WE ARE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. IT WAS A VERY SMALL AMOUNT. THE NEXT ONE IS QUESTION IS ON PAGE NUMBER 38. NORMALLY ON THIS LEGAL AID, BECAUSE WE PAY THE RENTAL FOR THIS DEPARTMENT AS ALWAYS OVER BUDGET, BUT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE MAINTAINING THIS. AS YOU LOOK ON PAGE 39, YOU WILL SEE THAT OUR MASTER COURTS IS SIGNIFICANTLY UNDER BUDGET NOW. DURING THIS TIME, THE COURT MADE -- THE BOARD OF JUDGES MADE THIS DECISION OF SALARY FROM 3300 TO 3250. AND WE WILL MAKE SURE WE DO THE PROPER BUDGET TRANSFERS THAT WILL BE NEEDED FOR THOSE PARTICULAR FUNCTIONS. THE NEXT ONE IN QUESTION WILL BE ON PAGE -- LET ME GET THAT -- PAGE 52. PAGE 52. THE SHERIFF IS A LITTLE OVER BUDGET AND SOME OF THE SERVICES AND CHARGES AND WHERE SOME OF THE LARGER PERCENTAGES ARE FOR THE BALANCE THAT WE HAVE FOR THE SHERIFF. THE BIGGEST ONE IS FOR THE METRO COM. ONE TRANSACTION THAT WE HAVE THAT WE NEED TO MOVE OUT OF THIS FUNCTION AND BACK INTO THE COS AND EXPRESSED INCORRECTLY AND WILL EXPRESS THE PARTICULAR FUNCTION. THE LAST ONE IN QUESTION IS ON PAGE 58. 58 IS THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AS WE KNOW THEY HAVE A LOT OF SIGNIFICANT OVERTIME AND SERVICES THAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH THAT IS CAUSING SOME ISSUES THERE. THE FINAL PAGE TO LET YOU LOOK AT IS PAGE # 1. PAGE 61 IS SHOWING YOU A FEW OVER BUDGET FOR CAPITAL OUTLAY. THE CAPITAL OUTLAY IS OVER BUDGET BECAUSE RECEIVING SOME OF THE LEASED VEHICLES AND REQUIRE ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT TO BE PUT INTO THE CARS AT THIS TIME. AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE PROPER BUDGET NUMBERS FOR THAT. THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR THEY WILL. BUT LOOK AT THE VERY BOTTOM. 51.3% OF THE BUDGET REMAINING FOR THE GENERAL FUND. FOR THE YEAR 41.6. A VERY, VERY STRONG NUMBER AND VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO LOOK AT. NOW -- JUDGE, YOU ASKED THE QUESTION ON -- ON OUR PROJECTS FOR THE ROAD DISTRICT 4. IF YOU TURN TO PAGE 78. YOU WILL SEE IT TOWARD THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE ON THAT -- YOU WILL SEE 1901 ROAD DISTRICT 4. THE TOTAL AMOUNT REMAINING 1,127, 132 AS OF APRIL. [03:50:04] IF WE REMEMBER TAKE OUT THE 16,000 WE JUST APPROVED CLOSE TO 1,100,000. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE. >> THE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR APRIL 30, 2017 2017. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. A MOTION TO I A APPROVAL THE APRIL 2022 REPORT. >> SO MOVED. >> I WILL TAKE IT AS A SECOND, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT IS [3. Approve Monthly Procurement Card Report for the month of March 2022.] FINE. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. MOVING ON SINCE WE ARE ON A ROLL. JUAN IS BACK AND DO THEP CARD, PROCUREMENT CARD REPORT FROM MARCH 2022, DALE. >> WE WANTED TO BRING THIS OUTS AS AN ISSUE. CREDIT CARD EXPENSE THAT ARE HAVE OCCURRED. THESE EXPENSES ALREADY OCCURRED, BUT ANY ONE THAT YOU WANT TO QUESTION OR GET MORE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, LET US NO HE AND WE WILL BRING IT OUTS AND BRING THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WE HAVE -- THAT YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THERE. IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE 81. THAT IS WHERE YOU SHOW WE HAVE A BREAKOUT OF FOOD EXPENSES AND EACH ONE OF THE ONES THAT HAVE FOR THE FOOD EXPENSES AS WELL AS THE DESCRIPTION. AND WE HAVE THE RECEIPTS. NOW WE WILL BE GLAD TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE. IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES, WE CAN DEFINITELY BRING THIS UP AT A LATER TIME ON WHATEVER QUESTION YOU MAY HAVE AND BRING FORWARD THE DEPARTMENT OR THE INDIVIDUAL FORWARD TO ANSWER THE QUESTION YOU HAVE. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE HAVE A QUESTION HERE. BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT YOU HAVE -- THERE IS VETTING DONE -- BEFORE THEY GET PAID, THERE IS SOME VETTING DONE WITH REGARDS TO THIS. >> THE CARDHOLDER MUST VALUE THE TRANSACTION. MUST INCLUDE A COPE OF THE RECEIPT AND BALANCES. IT MUST GO TO THE DEPARTMENT HEAD FOR APPROVAL. COMES TO OUR OFFICE. OUR OFFICE -- QUESTION -- IF WE HAVE QUESTION, IT QUESTIONS THE DEPARTMENT. THE DEPARTMENT THEN WORKS WITH PURCHASE TO DETERMINE IF IT IS A VALUABLE EXPENSE OR NOT. AND ONCE WE ARE ASSURED, IT IS PROCESS AND PAID. >>JUDGE CANALES: EVERYONE UNDERSTANDING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK THAT GOES DONE BEFORE WE SEE IT IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE COURT WITH THIS INFORMATION. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, YOU CAN UNMUTE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THANK YOU. YEAH, THE PROBLEM -- AND I LOOKED THROUGH ALL THIS AND I HAVE QUESTION AND IT HAS ALREADY BEEN PAID. THE QUESTION IS A QUESTION FOR SOMETHING THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. WHAT I NEED TO DO IS BRING FORTH THE POLICIES TO REVIEW AS AN AGENDA ITEM TO BE ABLE TO ACT ON. TO BE HONEST, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIND THEP CARD POLICY AND I DON'T THINK GETTING THESE REPORTS IN ARREARS IS GOING TO HELP THIS COURT FEEL ANY MORE COMFORTABLE -- I WILL SAY LESS -- BUT MORE COMFORTABLE.IT BECAUSE WE ARE SEEING SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT. IT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. TO SIT HERE AND SPEND THE TIME I MIGHT WANT TO SPEND ON THE MEAL QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE. I AM BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS UNDER -- AND I CAN PUT IT ALL WHOEVER WE PUT IT ON TO REVIEW THE POLICIES OF THEP CARDS WITH RELATION TO THE MEALS AND HOW THOSE ARE APPROVED. THOSE ARE ONES THAT I REALLY HAVE A LOT OF HEARTACHE ON JUST BECAUSE HAVING MEALS PAID FOR, TAXPAYER EXPENSE DOESN'T SIT WELL WITH ME. IF IT IS AT A CONFERENCE WHERE A PERSON HAS TO BE AT THAT CONFERENCE, THAT IS ONE THING. IF IT IS BUYING FOOD FOR PEOPLE. THAT IS A DIFFERENT SITUATION. SO I -- I CAN DISSECT THE HECK OUT OF THIS AND I DON'T THINK IT DOES ANY GOOD FOR TODAY BUT YOU ARE ASKING FOR ME TO APPROVE IT WHICH IS KIND OF AN ODD SPOT FOR ME TO BE IN. BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE DOUBTS THAT YOU DID YOUR JOB RIGHT OR THAT THIS REPORT DOESN'T REPRESENT A TRUE PICTURE OF WHAT IS GOING. BUT I DON'T -- I DON'T LIKE VOTING FOR SOMETHING THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH, BUT I GET WE ARE VOTING FOR THE REPRESENTATION OF IT BEING AN ACCURATE REPORT. I KNOW IT IS ONE OF THOSE VERY WEIRD DEALS AND NOT KILL EVERYONE WITH MY DIALOGUE. I HAVEN'T SAID A LOT TODAY, BUT WE GOT TO PUT THIS THING ON THE AGENDA TO REALLY LOOK AT THE POLICY FORP CARDS WITH REGARDS TO MEALS. NOT JUST MEALS BUT ONE THAT'S STICK OUT FOR ME THE MOST. I JUST -- YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU DON'T CATCH THINGS UNTIL THEY GET BROUGHT UP. AND PROBABLY GOING TO GO ON LIKE THIS SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE AND SHAME ON ME. [03:55:03] I TAKE MY RESPONSIBILITY FOR NOT THINKING ABOUT THIS EARLIER BECAUSE OF THE ISSUES BROUGHT OUT, I DEFINITELY WANT TO LOOK AT THAT. I DON'T DOUBT THAT YOUR REPORT IS REPRESENTATIVE AND IT IS ACCURATE. WHAT I -- I JUST DON'T LIKE SOME OF THE EXPENDITURES, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEND THE REST OF THE DAY TALKINGS OF THOSE. I WANT TO PUT THE AGENDA ITEM ON AND LOOK WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH P CARDS WITH FOOD AND OTHER EXPENDITURES. BECAUSE WE ALL TALK ABOUT WANT TO WATCH TAXPAYER DOLLARS HARD AND ONE OF THE AREAS -- I AM NOT ACCUSING ANYONE, BUT THERE COULD BE REAL PROBLEMS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. SO DALE, IF YOU WANT TO PUT THAT ON AS AN AGENDA ITEM SO IT IS APPROPRIATELY STYLED AND WANT ME TOO, LET ME NO HE. MY LONG-WINDED DIALOGUE. YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON, ME PUT IT ON? WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO ADDRESS THIS AS A POLICY. >> WELL, COMMISSIONER, THIS IS ARE PURCHASING POLICY. MICHAEL IS HERE AND HE CAN ADDRESS THIS. THIS IS A PURCHASING POLICY THAT THEY HAVE. MICHAEL. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, COMMISSIONER, THIS WILL BE ALONG THE SAME LINES AS WE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST. IF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT HAS SUGGESTIONS TO UPDATE THE P CARD POLICY, THEY CAN SEND THOSE TO ME, AND I WILL REVIEW IT WITH THE PURCHASING BOARD. THEN IF THEY AUTHORIZE ME TO UPDATE THE PURCHASING POLICY, I WILL UPDATE THEM. AND I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE COURT TO ADOPT. THE COURT DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DICTATE THE POLICY ON PURCHASING MATTERS. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE SUGGESTIONS IS MY UNDERSTANDING AND I DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY MYSELF TO MAKE THE CHANGES EITHER AND I HAVE TO SEND THEM TO THE PURCHASING BOARD AND THEY GET TO VOTE ON WHAT THOSE CHANGES OCCUR. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IS ANOTHER AREA WHERE THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO ANSWER TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. YOUR VERY ANSWER SAYS THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAVE NO AUTHORITY OVER PURCHASING POLICIES OTHER THAN SUGGESTIONS. THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAVE NO AUTHORITY ON PEOPLE, HOW THEY SPEND THEIR P CARDS AND COUNTIES COMMISSIONERS HAVE NO -- >> THOSE ARE NOT WORDS THAT I SAID AT ALL. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YOU DIDN'T SAY THEM. YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO. BUT YOU JUST SAID THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS CAN'T MAKE CHANGES TO HOW THE P CARDS ARE USED. ONLY THE PURCHASING BOARD CAN. AND THAT IS AN INHERENT FLAW IN OUR PROCESS THAT I WILL BE PUTTING ON THE AGENDA TO REVAMP THE ENTIRE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT IF THE COURT SO CHOOSE TO FOLLOW ALONG. BECAUSE YOU BASICALLY SAID WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY. WE CAN MAKE SUGGESTIONS. AND IT IS UP TO THE PURCHASING BOARD ON HOW PEOPLE SPEND MONEY IN NUECES COUNTY USING THEIR P CARD. THOSE ARE MY WORDS BY WHAT YOU JUST SAID. WE CAN SUGGESTION AND SUGGEST WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY USING FOOD ONP CARDS. >> WHAT YOU ARE ASSUME THAT YOUR SUGGESTIONS WILL FALL ON DEAF EARS AND NOT LISTENED TO. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NO, NO, I AM NOT ASSUMING THAT AT ALL. YOU ARE SAYING WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY. IS THAT TRUE OR NOT TRUE? >> CORRECT, THE AUTHORITY REST WITH THE PURCHASING BOARD FOR PURCHASING POLICY MATTERS. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: RIGHT. TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, I REALLY HOPE YOU ARE LISTEN TO THIS, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ARE. BECAUSE IF THE LAW IS, AS I BELIEVE IT IS, AND IF I -- I ALREADY ASKED JENNY TO -- TO REVIEW IT. I SENT THIS TO HER SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND I KNOW SHE HAS BEEN SLAMMED WITH ALL THE OTHER EMERGENCIES THAT WE HAD, BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS THE WAY IT SHOULD GO. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO ANSWER FOR ALL THESE EXPENDITURES, BUT ALL WE CAN DO IS SUGGESTS AND WE CAN'T MANGE CHANGES AND THAT IS A VERY, VERY BIG DISTINCTION IN HOW IT GOES. IT IS GREAT. WE HAVE TWO COMMISSIONER ON THE PURCHASING BOARD. PLEASE DON'T TAKE IT BY SAYING THAT I DON'T THINK THE PURCHASING BOARD WILL LISTEN TO US. BUT I AM SAYING IT IS A FLAW IN THE SYSTEM. IF WE ARE GOING TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DOLLARS, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY YES OR NO ON WHAT HAPPENS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE GET HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DOLLARS ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE -- BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT OTHER THAN MAKE SUGGE [04:00:09] SUGGESTIONS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT IS NOT YOUR FAULT. YOU ARE DOING YOUR JOB. I AM JUST DOING MINE TOO. >> HOUR. I WILL INTIMATE LIKE THE JUDGE HAS, WE REVIEW THESE CHARGES. DALE AND I DO PEOPLE NO. COMMISSIONER, YOU WERE TOLD NO ON A MEAL PURCHASE. WE TELL PEOPLE NO ALL THE TIME. WE REVIEW EACH ONE OF THESE. IF THE MEAL IS DETERMINED NO THE TO BE VALID, THEN THAT CHARGE IS REVERTED BACK TO THE INDIVIDUAL AND REMOVED FROM THE REPORT. SO THE MEALS THAT WERE READ IN COURT THE OTHER DAY, THE LIST OF ITEMS READ OUT, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE WERE REVIEWED BY DALE AND MYSELF, DETERMINED TO BE VALUED AND EVERY ONE WAS VALID MEAL CHARGES. I DON'T NECESSARILY SHARE THE OPINION THAT OUR P CARD POLICY IS BROKEN AND MEALS ARRIVING ON THE AGENDA ARE NOT VALID. I BELIEVE THAT EVERY ONE THAT I SEE ARE VALID I WILL REVIEW THEM. DALE REVIEWS THEM BEFORE THEY GET HERE. IF YOU FEEL LIKE CHANGES THAT THE COURT HAS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND, I WILL BE HAPPILY BRING THEM. BECAUSE THE ONLY VEHICLE IS TAKE IT TO THE PURCHASING BOARD. IF THIS BODY HAS SUGGESTIONS, I WILL HAPPILY TAKE THEM TO THE BOARD AND TRY TO GET THEM CONSIDERED AND IF IT MAKES SENSE, THEY WILL ADOPT IT AND BRING IT BACK FOR THE COURT TO ADOPT. IF YOU ADOPT IT AT THAT TIME, THEN I CAN THEN OPERATE UNDER THOSE RULES. I HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO OPERATE UNDER THE RULES I HAVE BEFORE ME RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WILL JUST SAY LET'S MOVE ON. BUT I WILL CHIME IN THAT WE ALSO HAVE PATELO BROWN, OUR OUTSIDE AUDITOR FIRM, THAT SINCE THESE POLICIES ARE IN PLACE, THAT AUDIT US AND PROVIDE US ANOTHER LAYER OF PROTECTION AND THEY REVIEW ALL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND ANOTHER LAYER. ALL THE DEPARTMENT AUDITS THAT WE GET COPIES OF ALL THE TIME. DEPARTMENT AUDITS. EXTERNAL AUDITS. INTERNAL AUDITOR. AND THIS LEGISLATIVE ACTION THAT THE STATUTES CREATE JUST SO YOU KNOW. I BELIEVE TO PREVENT ABUSE AND FRAUD IS WHY IT IS INDEPENDENT. WHY DALE IS INDEPENDENT SO WHY COMMISSION REMEMBERS NOT INFLUENCING. I KNOW THIS IS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IS SAYING. BUT THE REASON PUBLIC POLICY EXISTS IS TO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE ADVOCATING AND THAT IS WHY IT IS SET UP THIS WAY. WHY DON'T WE -- YOU KNOW, BRING FORTH ANY GOOD SUGGESTIONS AS WAS MENTIONED. AND -- AND THOSE, I KNOW, WILL BE TAKEN UP. SO MOVING ON. I DON'T KNOW IF WE VOTED ON IT, CARA. WE DIDN'T. A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REPORT FROM MARCH 2022 ON ITEM 3? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: A QUESTION FOR DALE. THIS IS FOR MARCH ONLY. WHAT DO YOU DO OCTOBER TO FEBRUARY ON THE P CARDS? >> THIS IS FOR THE PERIOD ENDING -- I WILL SEE WHAT THE TOTALS ARE. FOR MARCH. THE WAY OUR REPORTS RUN, THEY RUN ON A MONTHLY BASIS. SOME POINT MIGHT BE A CUMULATIVE NUMBER AND MAKE SURE YOU GET CUMULATIVE AMOUNT SOON. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE MOTION JUST FOR MARCH. A MOTION TO APPROVE MARCH. >> SO MOVED. [4. Approve Budget Change Order No. 14 for Fiscal Year 2021-2022.] >> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. SAME SIGN. BUDGET CHANGE ORDER. NUMBER 14 FOR THE YEAR. >> A QUICK BUDGET CHANGE ORDER. ONLY A FEW DEPARTMENTS ARE REQUESTING FUNDS. SOME ARE ON THE LARGE SIDE. BUT THE COUNTY CLERK -- NEEDED FUNDS AVAILABLE TO MOVE. COURT ADMINISTRATION. THEY HAD TO DO -- BECAUSE OF THE ONE GRANT PERSONAL SERVICES FUND. WE HAD TO CHARGE THAT. MOVE SOME FUNDS AROUND. THEY DID HAVE THOSE FUNDS. THE OTHER BALANCE ON PAGE 2. SHOW US THE COUNTY LIBRARY. THEY HAD AN INCREASE IN THEIR PHONE EXPENSES BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE CHARGES THAT WEREN'T ORIGINALLY KNOWN. AND COASTAL PARKS HAD SOME OTHER SERVICES CHARGES FOR THE BALANCES THEY HAD. THE FUNDS THEY HAVE AVAILABLE TO MOVE WITHIN THEIR DEPARTMENTS. THEM SAW THAT THE AMOUNTS WERE ACCURATE AND JUSTIFIED. AND WE WOULD SUBMIT BUDGET CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 14 FOR YOUR ACCEPT SANS. >>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION FOR THE BUDGET CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 14. I WILL MOVE. IS THERE A SECOND? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SIGHING AYE. I AM REALLY TRYING TO GET TO THAT 1:00 HOUR. [1. Discuss and consider approval of Change Order No. 4 for the Nueces County Roadway Rehabilitation Projects County Road 22 and County Road 49.] AND I -- DO YOU THINK YOURS IS QUICK, JUAN? >> IT WILL BE QUICK. >>JUDGE CANALES: GO BACK TOC-1. [04:05:04] A CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 4 FOR COUNTY ROAD 42 AND 49. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: CAN'T JUST MAKE THE MOTION. >> JUST A COST SAVINGS ON THIS ONE. FOR OUR COUNTY ROAD 42. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU RECOMMEND THAT. >> $2,000. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE RECOMMEND SAVING MONEY. [2. Discuss and consider funding source to hire a mechanical engineer/ mechanical engineering firm to assist the Department of Public Works.] >> MOVE. >> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY. THEN ITEM NUMBER 2 IS A FUNDING SOURCE TO DISCUSS AND CONFER TO HIRE AN ME FIRM TO ASSIST YOU. GIVE THE BACKGROUND A LITTLE BIT THAT YOU HAVE AN OPTION -- YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY BUT NO ONE HAS APPLIED. >> YES, MA'AM. WE GONE OUT FOR ADVERTISEMENT FOR MECHANICAL ENGINEER. WE VICE PRESIDENT GOTTEN SUBMITTALS FOR THE JOB POSITION. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF MECHANICAL WORK FROM CHILLERS TO BOILERS TO ELECTRICAL. AND WE ARE RECOMMEND THAT WE CAN HAVE -- OR HIRE AN OUTSIDE CONSULTING FIRM THAT WE CAN REACH OUT TO SO THEY CAN COME OVER HERE AND THEIR MECHANICAL ENGINEER CAN COME OVER HERE AND, LIKE, ON A DAILY BASIS. IF WE NEED THEM TODAY, THEY WILL BE HERE WITHIN 15 MINUTES. PROBABLY GOODBYE HERE LOCAL TO REACH OUT TO. >> SO MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: WOULD THIS BE UNDER $50,000 -- FORGIVE ME, I AM NOT ALLOW TO SAY THAT. WE DON'T KNOW ON AN ENGINEERING. WE HIRE THEM AND THEY WOULD CONTRACT, IS THAT CORRECT, JENNY? >> THEY WOULD HAVE TO -- YEAH, ONCE THEY PICK IT, THEY WILL HAVE TO NEGOTIATE ALL OF THIS. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT THIS ITEM IS A MOTION TO -- TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. >> YES, MA'AM. >>JUDGE CANALES: AND DESIGNATE THE FUNDING SOURCE. SINCE YOU HAVE THE POSITION OPEN, YOU HAVE SOME SAVINGS RIGHT NOW. >> I DON'T KNOW, DALE, IF WE CAN USE THE MONEY FROM SAVINGS TO CONSULTANT. >> UNABLE TO FIND THAT, I WOULD SAY THAT THE SAVINGS FOR THIS WOULD BE -- WOULD BE A LEGITIMATE USE. >>JUDGE CANALES: LEGITIMATE USE. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I HAVE A QUESTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: HOLD ON, GUYS. EVERYBODY HANG ON. I WILL DO THIS CORRECTLY. THAT IS THE FUNDING SOURCE. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: MY QUESTION IS. YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY RIGHT NOW THAT IS HELPING YOU WITH THAT? >> RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT IS HELPING US OUTS. WE NEED SOMEBODY HERE LOCAL, COMMISSIONER TO REACH OUT WITHIN THE NEXT 15 MINUTES OR 30 MINUTES AND THEY CAN BE HERE TO ASSIST US. ESPECIALLY YOU KNOW -- >>JUDGE CANALES: COUNTY SIDE. >> I SAY WITHIN 15 MINUTES -- WITHIN 30 TO 45 MINUTES I CAN HAVE THEM HERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUAN, YOU WILL CONTINUE TO RECRUIT AND FILL THIS POSITION FULL TIME. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WILL KEEP TRYING TO HIRE. >> OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE ONE HERE PERMANENT. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: TO HAVE SOMEBODY HERE FULL TIME. >>JUDGE CANALES: THEY ARE HOPE TO GET SOMEBODY. IN CASE SOMEBODY IS LISTENING AND WANTS TO APPLY, WE ARE LOOKING FOR A MECHANICAL ENGINEER. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I WON'T DONE YET. MY NEXT QUESTION IS, DO YOU NEED THE OTHER COMPANY -- THEY ARE EITHER FROM OUT OF TOWN OR WHAT. TWO SEPARATE COMPANIES. >> THAT WILL ELIMINATE SOME OF THE TIME ON THEIR END, COMMISSIONER AND KIND OF HELP US OUT OVER ON THE BUDGET. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: BUT BENEFICIAL TO THE COUNTY. >> WELL, IT WON'T BE BENEFICIAL, BUT IN HAVING SOMEBODY HERE LOCAL, IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR SOME OF THE COST SAVINGS FOR TRAVEL AND ON AND SO ON. >>JUDGE CANALES: THIS IS COUNTYWIDE. NOT IN PARTICULAR FOR ANY -- >> ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: OR THE ONE THAT ARE TO COME. THIS IS TO FILL YOUR VOID BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A MECHANICAL ENGINEERING. A MOTION AND A SECOND. I WOULD SAY LET US GET THIS SOURCE FOR YOU BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING BUT THE VOTED. THE VOID IS THERE. WE NEED TO FILL IT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHT. AND, AGAIN, FORGIVE ME, BUT JENNY, ON THIS ONE, ALL IT WAS WAS TO IDENTIFY THE FUNDING SOURCE. IDAY, HE STEM CELL NEEDS TO COME BACK TO COURT AND MAKE A. I THINK HE NEEDS TO BE DIRECTED INTO THAT MY SUGGESTION IS THAT THEY WILL GO OUT AND DO IT. HE CAN'T JUST DO IT AND HE NEEDS TO COME BACK AND SELECT AND HAVE A PROPER CONTRACT. SO ALL IT WAS WAS A FUNDING SOURCE TODAY. IT NEEDS TO BE DOCUMENTED. NOW THAT WE HAVE DONE IT, WE [04:10:01] NEED TO MOVE TO THE SECOND STEP. WE NEED TO HAVE A CONTRACT AND HAVE A JUNE 22 MEETING AND MAYBE HE CAN MAKE A SELECTION, BUT, AGAIN, IF IT IS A FUNDING SOURCE, YOU KNOW, WE TOOK CA%-P [17. Discuss and consider settlement agreement related to former medical examiner's separation from county employment and related matters.] ALL RIGHT FOR FUNDING SALARY. THAT TAKES CARE OF ITEMS D ANDE. SOMEBODY SAYS THERE IS GOING TO BE A TABLE. ITEM NUMBER 17, WE HAVE BEEN ASKED BY THE COURT MANAGER TO TABLE DUE TO INFORMATION SHE RECEIVED THAT WE ARE NOT READY. I WILL TAKE THE MOTION TO TABLE ITEM 17. >> TO JUNE 22. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: AND SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. SIGNIFICANCE ITEM 19 AND 20 ALREADY IN EXECUTIVE AND ITEM NUMBER 18 IS RIPE, AND WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT RIGHTS NOW, BUT I MUST CONFESS, THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE A LITTLE BREAK FOR EVERYBODY'S SAKE! >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, EXECUTIVE SESSION ALSO? >>JUDGE CANALES: IT APPARENTLY IS NOT. JENNY ADVISED ME THAT WE HAD TO TAKE IT UP AND OPEN. JENNY, CAN YOU CLARIFY? >> IF THERE ARE LEGAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONTRACT, THEN, YES, THEY CAN TALK ABOUT THOSE IN EXECUTIVE. YOU MAY HAVE SOME. I SENT OUT THE CONTRACT PRIOR WITH THE CONFIDENTIAL CHANGE LAW TO GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO PREPARE FOR THAT; HOWEVER, SIMPLE BUSINESS NEGOTIATIONS UNLESS THE COURT VOTES 5-0 THEN THIS NEEDS TO GO INTO THE EXECUTIVE AND FINDING THAT ANY OPEN NEGOTIATION WILL BE HARMFUL FOR THE COUNTY. IT IS AN OPEN SESSION ITEM. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S ME ASK TWO QUESTIONS. THERE A LEGAL QUESTION. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: LET ME ASK A QUESTION, QUESTION. JENNY, ANY ITEMS IN THE FINAL DRAFT BECAUSE I READ EVERYTHING YOU SENT. I HAD COMMENTS. WE HAD CONVERSATION, BUT ANYTHING DIFFERENT ON THE BUSINESS POINTS THAT WE APPROVED IN THE CONTRACT. THAT WILL BE MY ONLY LEGAL QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT ARE THEY, AND IF THERE IS IN -- IF THIS CONTRACT REFLECTS EXACTLY WHAT THIS COURT PASSED, THEN, OKAY. >> THERE ARE ADDITIONAL BUSINESS DECISION ITEMS THAT ARE PART OF PART TO ADDRESS WITH THE COURT TO HAVE A DECISION MADE ON A LEGAL QUESTION REGARDING ONE ASPECT OF THE CONTRACT! >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SOUNDS LIKE THAT NEEDS TO GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT MEANS WE WILL TAKE OUR BREAK AND GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. LET'S DO IT THIS WAY. LET ME READ THE MAGIC LANGUAGE THEN AND THEN IT MAKES SENSE TO EVERYBODY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, HOLD ON. I JUST SEE -- THE ONLY THING I SEE LEFT ON THE -- IS HUMAN RESOURCES ASIDE FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. >>JUDGE CANALES: I CAN DO THAT. BUT I DON'T SEE ANYBODY IN THE COURT ROOM. LET ME JUST --. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WERE TRYING TO GET -- >>JUDGE CANALES: I WAS, BRENT. BUT I NEED TO GO TO THE BATHROOM. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT'S FINE, THAT'S FINE. [1. Discuss and consider reclassifying an Attorney V position as an Attorney VI (Violent Crimes and Gang Prosecutor) position.] >>JUDGE CANALES: IF I SAW THEM HERE, I WOULD DO IT. I WILL BE HONEST. I DON'T NEED THEM HERE. I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS ITEM AND IDAY DOES TOO. WENT OVER IT WITH MARK GONZALEZ -- SO MANY GONZALEZES. WE WENT OVER WITH MARK GONZALEZ DISCUSS RECLASSIFYING ATTORNEY 5 TO ATTORNEY 6. THE DIFFERENCE IS A $5,000 DELTA. THAT IS AN IMPORTANT POSITION BECAUSE THERE IS SOMEBODY. >> VACANCY. >> SO MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. .WILL CARRY OVER, COMMISSIONERS TO NEXT FISCAL YEAR, I BELIEVE. I STILL THINK IT IS WORTH IT. IS. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I KIND OF FELT THE SAME WAY BUT JUST TRYING TO GET THROUGH IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AGREE. I ALWAYS LIKE TO DEFER TO THE [4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.] DEPARTMENT HEAD BUT IT IS EASIER THIS WAY. AT THIS TIME I WILL GIVE NOTICE THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION -- THAT WE DO ELECT AS A COURT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE DO SO AS AUTHORIZED BY PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. WE DO SO IN ACCORDANCE WITH MYSELF AS AT PRESIDING OFFICER ANNOUNCE THAT WE ARE SUBJECT TO VERNON TEXAS CODE 55. WE WILL BE CONSULT WITH OUR ATTORNEY. INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO MATTERS RELATED TO LITIGATION, REAL PROPERTY, GIFTS, PERSONNEL, TERMINATION, COUNTY ADVISORY, [04:15:04] SECURITY DEVICE, ECONOMIC AND ANY OTHER MATTER THAT'S MAY BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AS ALWAYS UPON COMPLETION, THE COURT WILL COME OUT IN OPEN SESSION AND TAKE ANY ACTION ON ITEMS WE DEEM APPROPRIATE. FOR OF THE CLERK THE TIME IS 12:50 P.M. I WILL ASK ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE HERE TO CLEAR THE COURT ROOM. AND WE WILL TAKE UP ALL THESE MATTER THAT ARE LISTED AND COME BACK ON THE RECORD AND I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE A WINDOW TO HAVE DR. FAGAN WITH US PRESENT UNTIL 2 P.M. I WILL LET THE CLERK KNOW THAT NO MATTER WHAT WE NEED TO COME BACK BY 1:30, JENNY. EVEN IF WE ARE NOT DONE. GAVEL OUT AND IN. AT 1:30, IF YOU WOULDN'T >> I NEED TO ANNOUNCE NOW THAT [18. Discuss and consider adopting employment contract for the new Medical Examiner, and related matters.] WE ARE GOING TO TACKLE ONE ITEM IN PARTICULAR. AND THEN, WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL AGENDA ITEMS WE HAVE NOT REACHED. BUT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME WE ARE ACCOMMODATING DR. FAGAN'S SCHEDULE, WE DECIDED THIS WOULD BE THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION. THIS ITEM IS NUMBER 18 UNDER THE REGULAR AGENDA, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADOPTING EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT FOR THE NEW MEDICAL EXAMINER. I WOULD ASK IF THERE IS A MOTION COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH THIS IN MIND? >> A MOVE. MAKING YOUR MOTION CONTINGENT UPON THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FINISHING THE ITEMS THAT WERE LEGAL IN REGARDS TO THE CLAUSES THAT WE DISCUSSED? >> (INDISCERNIBLE). >> OKAY. AND AGAIN, (INDISCERNIBLE) IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I JUST WANTED TO SAY THERE WAS AN ITEM THAT WAS LEGAL THAT WE ADDRESSED. DR. FAGAN, YOU DON'T WORRY AND YOUR ATTORNEY -- IT'S THE SAME ITEM YOU ARE READY ADDRESSED WITH (INDISCERNIBLE) WITH THE POLICY AND PARTICULAR CLOSET THEY WILL WORK WITH YOU ONE. THEY SAID THEY WOULD NEEDS MORE TIME TO FINALIZE. BUT I DO BELIEVE WE ARE COMPLETE AND THOROUGH IN THE CONTRACT REVIEW. IN THE COURT NOW HAS A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. SO THAT MEANS YOUR CONTRACT HAS BEEN APPROVED, AGAIN, PENDING THESE FINALIZATION'S BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WITH YOU AND YOUR ATTORNEY. WE CAN FINALLY SAY, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE NOT MOVED HERE, WELCOME ABOARD! ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO BRIEF, JUST THE AUDIENCE AT HOME AND I KNOW THE MEDIA IS HERE -- IS HOW INCREDIBLY THOROUGH YOU HAVE BEEN WITH THE NOT ONLY YOUR OWN CONTRACT, BUT WITH I WOULD CALL THEM THE PRECEPTS OF HOW YOU SEE A VERY STRONG MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE FOR THE FUTURE OF NUECES COUNTY. THIS INCLUDES PERSONNEL, RESOURCES, FACILITIES, TRAINING, CERTIFICATIONS -- BOOKS -- I MEAN, THE LITANY OF HOW YOU HAVE BROUGHT FORTH ALL OF THE, AGAIN, THE PILLARS OF HOW YOU SEE THE FUTURE OF FORENSIC SCIENCE, FORENSIC INSTITUTE, FORENSIC PATHOLOGY IS GOING TO BUILD THE FORENSIC MEDICAL INSTITUTE OF OUR FUTURE.SO I'M COMPLEMENTING ON THE THOROUGHNESS, THE DETAILS, AND OF COURSE, OUR STAFF WHO HAS BEEN WORKING WITH YOU SINCE THE DAY THIS COURT MADE THE SELECTION. AND AGAIN, TODAY IS THAT DAY WHERE WE GET TO SAY WE APPROVE THIS CONTRACT. AND NOW, WE WELCOME YOU ON, I BELIEVE IT IS JULY 18 THAT WILL BE OUR OFFICIAL START. THANK YOU! AND JENNY, AS A FOLLOW-UP TIMELINE FOR DR. FAGAN, YOU WILL BE IN CONTACT WITH HIM TODAY JUST TO FINALIZE HOW THE TIMELINE WILL PROGRESS. >> ABSOLUTELY. WE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION AND WILL CONTINUE IN ALL THE CHANGES ARE THE ONES WE HAVE DISCUSSED. >> SUPER! THAT WAS SUCH A LONG WAIT FOR SUCH A QUICK MOTION. BUT REST ASSURED, WE WERE THOROUGH TOO. WE WERE VERY THOROUGH AS WELL ON OUR SIDE. SO THANK YOU. WE UNDERSTAND YOU ARE HEADING BACK. YOU'RE DISMISSED -- UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT! THANK YOU, DR. FAGAN. [04:20:01] HAVING SAID THAT THAT IT WAS SUGGESTED THERE WERE SOME MATTERS THAT WERE TAKEN UP IN EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT WE COULD [19. Discuss and consider taking action on notice of damages regarding negligence claims of Edna Pena regarding her deceased daughter and related matters.] ACT UPON NOW. THAT WOULD BE IN RELATION TO -- >> 19. >> THANK YOU. ITEM 19. IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING NOTICE OF DAMAGES REGARDING NEGLIGENT CLAIMS OF AN ME). >> MOTION TO DENY THE ACTIONS. >> I'VE AUTHORIZE THE ATTORNEY TO WRITE THE LETTER. >> SECOND. >> AND AUTHORIZE THE ATTORNEY TO WRITE THE LETTER? [20. Discuss and consider options and course of action regarding the CoreRecon LLC contract, and related matters.] MAY WE INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR MOTION? >> SURE. >> ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY. THAT TAKES CARE OF 18 AND 19. 17, AS YOU RECALL, WAS TABLED. AND ON ITEM NUMBER 20, I BELIEVE THERE IS A MOTION TO CONTINUE NEGOTIATION; IS THAT CORRECT, COMMISSIONERS? AS DIRECTED? >> RIGHT. >> THE MOTION IS TO CONTINUE NEGOTIATIONS -- REALLY, IT'S TO DIRECT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO CONTINUE NEGOTIATIONS WITH CORERECON LLC. THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 20. AND THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> THAT CONCLUDES, IN MY MIND, THE REGULAR AGENDA. HOWEVER, AS I'VE NOTED EARLIER FOR THE RECORD, THERE ARE STILL TWO MORE ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE TENDED TO. IS THAT HOW YOU SEE IT TOO? >> EXCEPT FOR NUMBER 2 -- >> HOLD ON. LET ME GO BACK. GOSH, JENNY, THAT'S GREAT. BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT DISCUSSION YET EITHER. BUT YOU ARE RIGHT. IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. BUT WE WILL. >> (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE). >> YEAH, JEFF WAS HERE -- >> WAS IT CONCLUDED? >> NO, IT NEEDS TO COME BACK TO EXECUTIVE SO WITH THAT, I APOLOGIZE TO THOSE COMING IN, BUT I WILL ASK YOU TO INDULGE ME IN THAT WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. AT THIS TIME, IT IS TO:40 4 PM TO CONCLUDE THE ITEMS NOT FINISHED. I'VE ALREADY READ THE LANGUAGE ONCE BEFORE. SO I WILL JUSTSAY I ECHO THIS IS PERMISSIVE UNDER OPEN MEETINGS ACT , AND WE WILL COME OUT UPON COMPLETION OF THIS EXECUTIVE SESSION AND TAKE ANY ACTIONS NEEDED.>> TO: AWAY P.M. EXECUTIVE SESSION, COMMISSIONERS WE DO HAVE ONE ITEM TO TAKE LET ME DOUBLE CHECK K THAT WE HAVE MAINLY CONSULTATIONS LEFT. WHAT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 2 KARA. WE REALIZE WE DIDN'T I DID MAKE A MOTION ITEM ON REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2. AT THIS TIME I AM GOING TO, RELATE THE AGENDA DOESN'T GIVE ME TO MUCH LATITUDE. WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT UNLESS YOU THINK IT GETS BEAT LATITUDE IN LIEU OF, HOW ABOUT THIS IN LIEU OF ANY ORDER CANNOT MAKE A MOTION? IN LIEU OF ANY ORDER THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE CONCEPT OF THE RESTORATION CENTER AND DIRECT DOCTOR XAVIER GONZALEZ WITHIN 30 DAYS.F YOU COULD DO IT QUICKER, WONDERFUL. WITHIN 30 DAYS BRING BACK TO COURT AS AN AGENDA ITEM TO HAVE A FULL COST ESTIMATE ON THE PROJECTS THAT HE IS PROPOSING THAT WERE ON THAT LAST SLIDE. ALSO TO COME UP WITH THAT PLAN OF ACTION THAT THE COURT AND MAYBE EVEN A TIMELINE THAT THE COURT COULD APPROVE. LOOKING FOR THE ACTUAL PROJECT COST ESTIMATE AND TIMELINE. TODAY'S MOTION IS TO START THE PROCESS AND TO APPROVE THE CONCEPT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT THE MOTION AND GONZALEZ ? COOK'S SECOND FROM GONZALEZ. ANY FURTHER USSION? [04:25:09] OTHER THAN IT WAS A VERY GREAT PRESENTATION AND I'M CERTAIN WE CUT HIM OFF SO O MAYBE HE WILL FINISH NEXT TIME WITH THOSE DETAILS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. OPPOSED? BELIEVE IT OR NOT I THINK THAT'S IT. I WILL HAVE JENNY TAKE A QUICK LOOK AGAIN. AND ASK WHILE SHE'S LOOKING TO HAVE THE ADJOURNMENTS OF MEMORY? >> DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS. >> WAS VOTE ON E? >> YES, WHILE YOU WERE OUT IT WAS RIGHT BEFORE LUNCH. WE DID IT VERY QUICKLY. HER RIGHT BEFORE EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE APPROVED THE HUMAN RESOURCES ATTORNEY 5 POSITION TO 6? >> NO E AND EXECUTIVES. >> FORGIVE ME. >> DIRECTOR GO BACK AND D RECONTACT THE OTHER ATTORNEY. >> TO CONTINUE NEGOTIATIONS FOR E. [INAUDIBLE] BOX IT WAS NOT. >> Y'ALL CAME BACK K FROM NEGATIVE ANNUAL . >> WE DID EDNA PE?A ON D. AND ON E HSS CONSIDER TAKING APPROPRIATE ACTION. THE ACTION IS TO CONTINUE NEGOTIATIONS AS DIRECTED. >>. [INAUDIBLE]. >> MOTION WAS TO REEVALUATE AFTER ABOUT. >> THAT WASN'T MY MOTION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MOTION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION NOW TO. >> ALL MAKE MOTION THAT WE ALLOW ONE MORE CONTACT WITH THE ATTORNEYS TO SEE IF THEY ARE WILLING TO AT THIS POINT WITHDRAWAL THE LAWSUIT IN THE CAP OF $1000. THEN WE STOPPED WITH THE ATTORNEY THAT WE HIRED AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TAKE OVER THE NEGOTIATIONS. THAT WAS MY MOTION. >> JUST FOR CLARITY. >> THE CURRENT ATTORNEY WILL CONTACT OUR ATTORNEYS AND THEY HAVE ONE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO GO AHEAD AND NEGOTIATE WITH THE OTHER ATTORNEYS TO TRY TO CLOSE OUT THE CASE. AND FOR $1000 FOR ADDITIONAL FEES. AND IF THEY DON'T AGREE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WILL TAKE OVER THE CASE. >> DO YOU NEED A SECOND? COULD BARELY HEAR. I'M SORRY. >> YEAH. >> OKAY. THAT'S FINE. I WILL SECOND. I CAN BARELY HEAR. I'M HAVING A HARD TIME. I APOLOGIZE. >> I WILL CALL FOR DISCUSSION. I FEEL LIKE IF HE WOULD AMEND YOUR MOTION TO REEVALUATE AFTERWARDS YOU WOULD ALLOW THE COUNTY MORE OPTIONS. THAT WOULD BE A BETTER MOTION THAT YOU COULD GET CONSENSUS ON AND WOULD ASK THAT YOU LEAST MEANT TO THAT AS WAS PER THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S ADVICE. >> YES JUDGE OR COMMISSIONER WOULD HATE FOR YOU TO NOT HAVE AN OPTION TO EVALUATE BASED ON NEW INFORMATION. AT THIS POINT LEAVING MORE OPTIONS OPEN YOU DON'T LOSE ANYTHING BY THAT. >> STILL KEEPING THE SAME ATTORNEY? >> REEVALUATING AFTER THE NEGOTIATION OF THE COURT IS DIRECTING. >> EITHER WE KEEP HIM OR GO BACK WITH COUNTY ATTORNEY. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? >> YES, MAKING THAT DECISION AFTER YOU GET MORE INFORMATION. >> I'M OKAY IF HE IS OKAY. [04:30:03] >> WILL YOU AMEND YOUR MOTION TO COMPORT WITH THAT? AND CHESNEY, WE SUCK THAT. >> YES MA'AM. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. OPPOSED? COULD CATCH ON THE E. ANYTHING LSE? >> DO YOU WANT A THOUSAND QUICK. >> THAT WAS PART OF THE TION. ANY OTHER ITEMS? [ Adjournment in Memory (upon request)] HEARING NONE WE WILL MOVE STRAIGHT TO ADJOURNMENT AND MEMORY. COMMISSIONER GONZALES. >>. >> ANTONIO VILLA RZA AGE 54 PASSED AWAY ON MAY 8, 2022. TONY WAS BORN ON MAY 5, 1968 TAUPE ONE MINIMAL GARZA SENIOR. AND ? ?. HE GRADUATED FROM ? RAY HIGH SCHOOL IN 1987. TONY WAS EMPLOYED BY CC AG. OVER 11 YEARS. HE LOVED HIS JOB AND WAS A COMMITTED EMPLOYEE TO THE BLADE SHOP. ENTER THE AREA FACILITIES. HE WAS ALWAYS READY AND WILLING TO LEARN AND TO GET THE JOB DONE. SOME OF HIS PREVIOUS EMPLOYERS WERE BRAND SCAFFOLDING CORPUS CHRISTI STATE SCHOOL, LTD, DYNAMIC INDUSTRIES OFFSHORE UAC FORM. TONY WAS KNOWN FOR MAKING FRIENDS AND ENJOYING HIS FRIENDSHIPS. ANYWHERE HE WENT. HIS SENSE OF HUMOR AND PLAYING PRANKS FOR HE WAS CRAZY TONY. HE WILL BE TREMENDOUSLY MISSED. TONY HAVE A LOVE FOR BOXING. I BEGAN TRAINING AT 7 YEARS OLD. HE WAS VERY PROUD OF IT AND RAVED ABOUT THE TROPHIES HE WON WHILE HE WAS IN SCHOOL. TONY'S PASSION FOR BOXING WHILE TURNING UNDER COACH DOUBLE LET HIM TO BECOME A GOLDEN GLOVE CHAMP IN 1988. HE THEN CONTINUED HIS BOXING CAREER PROFESSIONALLY AS TONY THE TIGER. ON WEEKENDS THERE WAS NOTHING HE ENJOYED MORE THAN FISHING WITH HIS BEST FRIEND RICO AND LOVING FISHING COMPETITOR ?. HE WILL ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED FOR HIS DEVOTION TO FAMILY. HE WAS A LOVING HUSBAND, FATHER, SON, BROTHER, UNCLE, BROTHER-IN-LAW, COUSIN AND NEPHEW. TONY IS PRECEDED IN DEATH BY HIS FATHER JUAN MANUEL GARZA SENIOR. FATHER-IN-LAW IS AUDIO ?. PATERNAL GRANDPARENTS ANDRES AND ? ?. PATERNAL GRANDPARENTS ANTONIO AND MY WELA VILLA GARZA. TONY TONY IS SURVIVED BY THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE CECILIA THE GARZA. OF 25 YEARS OF MARRIAGE. AN ONLY SON ANTONIO JESUS ON THE GARZA. MOTHER JANIE ON THE GARZA, BROTHERS ANGEL, GARZA AND KARINA. ? ?. MOTHER-IN-LAW ? ?, SISTER-IN-LAW BARBARA CEPEDA LUIS, MONICA ?, AND BROTHER IN LAW THOMAS SETTABLE. NIECES AND NEPHEWS. LOUIS MET CHRISTIAN AND SEBASTIAN SABATO. JOHN AND MAIA UEDA. ELADIO AND ALISA. [INAUDIBLE]. ANTONIO WILL BE MISSED BY HIS [04:35:02] FAMILY, FRIENDS AND WE CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR THEIR FAMILY AND PROVIDE THE CONDOLENCES THEY NEED. MAY HE REST IN PEACE. THAT'S IT. >> OKAY. I ASKED EVERYBODY RIGHT? I'LL CONCLUDE WITH ONE THAT'S THAT RON AND POLLY NAVARRO ANNOUNCE HAD NEWS OF THE PASSING OF THE GRANDSON THE ANDREW NAVARRO WAS A LOVE OF THEIR LIFE FOR 23 YEARS.E WAS BORN ON OCTOBER 31, 1998 AND HE PASSED AWAY ON JUNE 2. THEY LOVELY RAISED HIM SINCE BIRTH. HE DID PASS AWAY PEACEFULLY AND FULL OF JOY. AT HIS RESIDENCE WITH HIS GRANDMOTHER AT HIS SIDE. GRANDMOTHER AND GRANDFATHER BY HIS SIDE. THEY NOTE THAT WHILE THE ANGELS ESCORTED HIM TO THE PEARLY GATES OF HEAVEN TO HIS NEXT ADVENTURE. THOSE OF US WERE BORN HIM WILL CELEBRATE HIS LIFE FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS WITH SADNESS AND HOPE. THAT CHANGE WILL COME TO LIFT US IN SPIRIT TO JOIN THE ANDREW AND HIS REQUEST AND THE LORD IN HEAVEN. RECEIVED FOR ANY OF YOU THAT KNOW RON THERE IS A MASS AT ST. PETER'S ON JUNE 16 AT FOLLOWED BY THE VIEWING ATTENDING M. SOBER SETTING OUR CONDOLENCES TO THE NAVARRO FAMILY. AT THIS TIME OF THEIR MORNING AND TO THOSE THAT YOU READ EARLIER TODAY AND ALL THOSE WHO ARE SUFFERING. I WILL MARK THE CLOCK AT 4:FOUR 5 PM AND ADJOURN US FOR THE DAY. A BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING. TOMORROW WE DO HAVE A BUDGET WORKSHOP AND WE WILL BE MEETING AT TEMPLE 30 IS WHEN THE BUDGET WORKSHOP WILL START. HOWEVER JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE ABOUT GRAVEL US IN AT 9:15. BUT, I WILL ANNOUNCE AN UNCLE 15 WE WILL START A TICKLE 30. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING AND WARNING AS TO WHAT WERE GOING TO DO. AND WITH THAT SAID WE WILL SEE * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.