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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>>JUDGE CANALES: TO OKAY WE ARE HERE THIS MORNING FOR ANOTHER YOU GREAT DAY OF BUDGET WORKSHOPS.

AND WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN BY CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

AND IF EVERYBODY -- NO ONE IS REALLY TAKING NOTES BUT WE ARE STEM CELL BEING RECORDED AND 8:30 AND A PHYSICAL QUORUM WITH COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, GONZALEZ AND MYSELF HERE.

AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, NOBODY ONLINE, BUT I WOULD ASK ALL OF YOU TO RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE OF THE UNITED STATES

OF AMERICA AND THE TEXAS FLAG. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALY FWANS TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD. ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

PU .

>>JUDGE CANALES: AGAIN, JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE ARE HERE ON -- IS

IT JUNE 7 TODAY? >> YES, MA'AM.

>>JUDGE CANALES: JUNE 7. TUESDAY JUNE 7 LOCATED AT 901 NORTH LEOPARD NUECES COURTHOUSE, THIRD FLOOR OF THE NUECES COUNTY COURT ROOM. AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK WHETHER THINK COMMISSIONER HAS ANY DISCLOSURE OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON TODAY'S BUDGET WORKSHOPS.

JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW, TODAY WE WILL DO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, JUVENILE PROBATION, COUNTY LIBRARY, LAW LIBRARY, DISTRICT ATTORNEY, ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND, BUILDING SUPER, ENVIRONMENTAL ENFORCEMENT, I.T., RECORDS MANAGEMENT WAREHOUSE, RISK MANAGEMENT, AND ITNCDC. ALL GOOD, EVERYBODY? I WILL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND ASK TERESA IF EVERYBODY IS HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE IS NOBODY ONLINE BUT IF

[3. The Court will discuss matters related to Fiscal Year 2022/2023 Budget and hear Department Budget Presentations.]

YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, WE WILL HEAR FOR YOU AT THIS TIME.

ALL RIGHT, BEGIN WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

JENNY DORSEY IS HERE AND WE WILL LET HER PRESENT AND HER STAFF IS

HERE AND WE WELCOME YOU. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. WE ARE SO GLAD AND PROUD TO BE WITH YOU HERE TODAY. I WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING THAT YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN NUECES COUNTY. OF COURSE NUECES COUNTY IS UNIQUE, BUT THE NUECES COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS ONE OF ONLY EIGHT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS WITH THE JURISDICTION THAT WE HAVE.

PURELY CIVIL JURISDICTION WITH A QUASI CRIMINAL JURISDICTION IN THE PROTECTIVE ORDERS. NOW TO THAT END, THERE IS NO BOOK THAT SAYS HERE IS HOW YOU DO THIS.

A LOT OF BOOKS WHO SAY, HERE IS HOW YOU DO THIS.

WE USE A LOT OF DIFFERENT BOOKS AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT CODES THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR KNOWING.

WE ARE UNIQUE. WE DO CIVIL LAW IN THE STATE AND IN THE FEDERAL COURTS. YOU KNOW THIS ONE.

WE HAVE TO BE EXPERTS IN THIS ONE TOO.

ANY TIME YOU SEE ME. THE COURT KNOWS ME.

THE COURT KNOWS FRANCISCO. BUT WHAT I WANT TO REMIND YOU OF IS THAT THERE IS AN ARMY OF PEOPLE BEHIND ME EVERY TIME WE ARE IN COURT. AND THE HOURS OF PREPARATION THAT IS TAKES EVERY TIME WE APPEAR IN COURT.

THAT I AM MESSAGING PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPORTING ME.

-- MARY ESTHER, WHERE ARE YOU? LOOKING UP THINGS FOR THE COURT BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE FOUND OUT NOW.

THAT IS WHAT WE PROVIDE TO THE COURT.

BUT CRYSTAL, NICOLE, WE ARE UNIQUE IN THAT WE ALSO PROTECT THE MOST VULNERABLE OF OUR SOCIETY.

JERRY IS NOT HERE. WE ARE UNIQUE -- JERRY DILESIO HAS BEEN PRACTICING LAW SINCE BEFORE I WAS BORN.

THAT IS UNIQUE TO HAVE AN OFFICE IN A GOVERNMENT BODY WHO DOES SOMETHING HERE NOT BECAUSE THE PAY IS GREAT BUT BECAUSE OF THE LOVE HE BEARS THOSE CHILDREN AND THIS COUNTY.

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THAT'S UNIQUE. PROPERTY ISSUES CAN NO LONGER SEE ME. LOOK AT THESE GUYS.

CIVIL TRIALS. MATT DENNIS, WHERE ARE YOU? THE MAN SAVED THE COUNTY OVER $200,000 THIS LAST YEAR.

THAT IS PRETTY GREAT. DISCOVERY ISSUES.

IT'S NOT ONE THING, IT'S MANY, MANY THINGS.

AND THERE IS ALWAYS AN EMERGENCY.

THERE IS ALWAYS A CONTRACT THAT WE GET ATTACHED TO AN AGENDA ON A FRIDAY -- FRIDAY AT 4:00, 5:30, 5, 6:00.

FRANCISCO WORKS LATE INTO THE NIGHT TO PUT IT TOGETHER AND ON THE WEEKEND -- WHERE IS KENT BROWN.

MARY ESTHER SPEND THE WEEKEND TO MAKE SURE -- EVEN THOUGH THINGS WEREN'T BROUGHT TO OUR OFFICE BEFOREHAND.

WE TRY DESPERATELY TO MAKE SURE NOTHING IS SLIPPING THROUGH THAT WILL HARM THE COUNTY. THAT'S UNIQUE.

SO WE REACH OUT TO OTHER EIGHT JURISDICTIONS IN THE COUNTY TO CREATE PARTNERSHIPS, WE GATHER BEST PRACTICES.

WE HAVE IN THE YEAR AND A HALF WE HAVE BEEN TOGETHER, WE ARE CHANGING THE WAY WE ARE HANDLING PROTECTIVE ORDERS TO BETTER PROTECT NOT THE YOUNGEST BUT THE VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

THAT IS SOMETHING YOU DON'T SEE US DO HERE IN COURT.

WE ARE ON CALL THE COURT, BUT WE ARE ON CALL FOR VICTIMS, CHILD VICTIMS, AND VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

WE ARE ON CALL WHEN A PERSON IS AT -- IS INCARCERATED AND THEY ARE STABLE. THEY NEED TO GET OUT.

WHAT HOLIDAY WAS IT IMANI. WHAT HOLIDAY TO TRY TO GET THAT YOUNG LADY OUT. CHRISTMAS EVE.

WE NEEDED -- WE DECIDED WE NEEDED FOR THE BUDGET -- A SIREN FOR OUR CAR BECAUSE RACING ALL OVER TOWN TO FIND A JUDGE TO SIGN AN ORDER TO LET THAT YOUNG LADY OUT TO HAVE CHRISTMAS WITH HER FAMILY. THAT'S UNIQUE.

THAT IS WHAT WE GIVE TO OUR COUNTY.

OUR LOVE, PURE AND SIMPLE. JEFF HAS BEEN WITH US -- HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN PRACTICING, JEFF?

>> ALMOST 30 YEARS. >> HAS BROUGHT GUIDANCE TO THIS COURT ON WERE A A. ALSO PROTECTS THE YOUNGEST OF THE VICTIMS IN THIS COUNTY. ALEXANDRA WHO ALWAYS CATCHES THE MINOR DETAILS THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT IF SHE DIDN'T CATCH THEM. I AM PROUD OF THIS GROUP.

PROUD OF THE STAFF THAT DEALS WITH THE VICTIM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. THE COURT DOESN'T SEE THAT.

DEAL WITH PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ISSUES IN OUR OFFICE BREAKING DOWN BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME SOMEONE HAVE LISTENED TO THEM THE ABUSE THEY WITHSTOOD A SPOUSE, PARENT OR CHILD.

WE HAVE CLOTHING IN THE OFFICE, BUT SHE DIDN'T LOOK -- WE THOUGHT IT WAS A LITTLE BOY BECAUSE THAT MOTHER ESCAPED HER SITUATION WITH A CHILD AND LIVING WITH A SISTER WHO ONLY HAD SONS. NOW WE HAVE CLOTHING IN THE OFFICE. NOW WE HAVE TOILETTRIES.

WHEN A VICTIM ESCAPES AND NEEDS A NIGHT IN THE HOTEL, WE KNOW WHO TO CALL. THAT IS OUT OF LOVE SO I AM SO PROUD TO COME HERE AND BRING YOU THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE AND TELL YOU WE ARE ASKING FOR THINGS. AND IT IS HARD TO ASK FOR THINGS, BUT IT IS NOT HARD TO ASK FOR THESE PEOPLE.

BECAUSE THEY DESERVE IT. OH, MY GOSH, ESMER.

IF YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE COURTHOUSE WITH YOUR FEET IN THE COURTHOUSE FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME OR FOR 15 YEARS, YOU KNOW ESMER. SHE HAS WALKED VICTIMS THROUGH PROTECTIVE ORDERS. SHE LEFT US FOR A LITTLE WHILE,

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BUT I AM SO GLAD SHE IS BACK. AND TIME TO HONOR THESE PEOPLE.

SO WE ARE BRINGING OUR BUDGET REQUEST TO YOU.

IF YOU COULD -- WE ARE ASKING THREE MAJOR THINGS TODAY.

NEXT YEAR, WE WILL ASK FOR MORE BECAUSE THERE IS A NEED.

FIRST WE ARE ASKING TO KEEP THE THREE ARPA POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE, TWO ATTORNEYS AND ONE STAFF PERSON.

THIS -- WE WOULD LOVE TO MOVE THESE PEOPLE INTO THE GENERAL FUND. IF YOU DO NOT SEE YOUR WAY TO DO THAT CLEAR NOW, WE ASK THAT WE KEEP AND RENEW OUR ARPA FUNDING AND LET US KNOW AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO THEY KNOW IF THEIR POSITION IS FUNDED FOR ANOTHER YEAR.

SECOND, WE ARE ASKING FOR A RECLASSIFICATION OF JOBS.

WE ARE ASKING THE COURT TO RECOGNIZE THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DO. THE EXPERIENCE THEY HAVE, AND NOT ONLY THE EXPERIENCE THEY HAVE BUT THE EXPERIENCE THAT IS REQUIRED TO WALK IN THE DOOR. LAST.

WE ARE ASKING FOR A CASE MANAGEMENT MEM SOFTWARE.

THIS IS A LAW OFFICE. THIS IS A LAW FIRM THAT SERVICES THE COUNTY. CONTINUED IT IS TIME TO HAVE A THING THAT MAKES A LOW OFFICE ACT EFFICIENTLY AND MORE.

I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THINGS OVER TO FRANCISCO ZAMORA.

>>JUDGE CANALES: BEFORE YOU DO ON THE CASE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS FEEL, BUT MY INTENTION WHEN WE GAVE THE ARPA $2.5 MILLION TO DARYL FOR UPGRADES IT INCLUDES INFRASTRUCTURE I.T. TELLING FOLLOWING THIS 37 HAS ANYBODY -- IF NOT, I CAN DO IT.

HAS ANYBODY ASKED HIM IF THIS IS PART OF THE $2.5 MILLION?

>> AN OLD $2.5 MILLION OR NEW ONE.

>> I HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH DARYL AND I WAS TOLD TO WAIT. WE COULD GOTTEN IT EARLIER AND GET FREE MONTHS OF IT, BUT WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO WAIT AND GO

THROUGH THIS PROCESS. >> I AM GOING TO FIND OUT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE CAN FIND OUT.

>> THAT WOULD SHALL SHALL AWESOME.

>>JUDGE CANALES: AS A REMINDER -- I AM LOOKING FOR THE ATTACHMENT ON THEQ. IT IS ALSO ATTACHED HERE?

I SEE THE THOMPSONREUTERS. >>THE HAIKU WITH THE SOLE SOURCE AND THE SOLE SOURCE LETTER AND THE QUOTATION AND THE CONTRACT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IT IS REUTERS. >> IF IT PLEASES THE COURT, FRANCISCO ZAMORA ON THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL OF THE THREE I'M ON OUR POWERPOINT AND CALLING UP PEOPLE FROM OUR OFFICE THAT HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND CAN GIVE MORE BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON SOME OF THESE REQUESTS. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO -- WE WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT OUR FIRST QUESTION WHICH IS KEEPING THE THREE ARPA POSITIONS. REGARDING KEEPING THE THREE ARPA POSITIONS, WE HAVE TWO ATTORNEY AND ONE LEGAL ASSISTANT.

ONE OF THE ATTORNEYS IS AN ATTORNEY 3.

THE OTHER IS AN ATTORNEY 2. WE HAVE A LEGAL ASSISTANT AND LEGAL SECRETARY. PAY GRADE -- PAY GROUP 16.1.

NOW THE REASON WHY WE MADE THE ASK LAST YEAR WAS THAT WE NEEDED HELP -- WE NEEDED SOMEBODY TO ASSIST WITH THE BACKLOG OF CP SCASES IN PART CAUSED BY COVID, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEXITIES OF CP SCASES. AS TIME GOES ON, THE LAWS RELATED TO CP SIS MORE IN-DEPTH. AND REGARDLESS OF COVID, THEY REQUIRE A LOT MORE TIME AND A LOT MORE EXETER PER TEASE.

WE ALSO HAVE ONE OF OUR OTHER ATTORNEYS THAT IS ASSISTING WITH ARPA ISSUES. CONSISTENTLY REVIEWING CONTRACTS AND COMMUNICATING IN SOME -- MANY TIMES WITH HAGGERTY.

WE ARE ASKING THAT WE MADE PERMANENT THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND. ALTERNATELY THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND, WE ASK THAT ARPA AGAIN HIRE THEM AGAIN FOR NEXT YEAR.

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AND WE ARE REQUESTING IF ARPA IS GOING TO BE USED, WE ARE HOPE THAT COULD BE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA FAIRLY SOON SO THESE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE HERE HAVE SOME SORT OF -- SO THEY KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING IN SEPTEMBER -- IN OCTOBER -- ON OCTOBER 1. AGAIN, WHY ARE WE ASKING FOR THESE POSITIONS? BECAUSE OF THE BACKLOG OF CASES.

THE HONORABLE COMMISSIONERS COURT REQUESTED -- OR APPROVED TO HAVE TWO COURT ROOMS, COUNTY LAW 5.

NOW THAT WE WILL HAVE TWO COURT ROOMS, SIMULTANEOUS COURT AND THAT MEANS WE WILL BE ABLE TO ALLOCATE OUR ATTORNEYS VERY CAREFULLY WHEN THE TWO COURTS ARE GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME.

SO THAT'S WHY WE DEFINITELY NEED THESE ARPA POSITIONS.

CASES -- AND CASES ARE MORE COMPLEX THAN EVER.

NOW WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS CALL UP JEFF SCHMIDT SO HE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HE HAS BEEN DOING THIS IN POSITION SO YOU CAN GET A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

>>JUDGE CANALES: JEFF, WOULD YOU ABLE TO SPEAK OF HOW WE HAVE BEEN DOING AS FAR AS OBVIOUSLY -- I MEAN THE BACKLOG OF CP S CASES. THAT IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.

I AM 100% IN FAVOR OF CONTINUING ARPA BECAUSE I KNOW THE BUDGET NUMBERS ARE NOT FAVORABLE, BUT MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, IS IT

WORK SOMETHING IN. >> I CAN SPEAK PARTLY TO THAT.

I DON'T DO STRICTLY THE CPS CASES.

MY COUNTERPART DOES. AND IN FACT HE IS NOT HERE TODAY BECAUSE HE IS ACTUALLY IN COURT REPRESENTING THE BEST INTEREST OF THESE ABUSED AND NEGLECTED CHI CHILDREN. HE IS THE ONE THAT CAN REALLY DO THAT MORE. BUT FOR MY STANDPOINT, I CAN TELL YOU THIS. I CAN HANDLE SOME OF THE CPS CASES AND TAKES THE LOAD OF THE FULL-TIME CPS ATTORNEYS THAT REPRESENT CPS. YES, IT IS WORKING AND YES IT IS HELPING THE BACKLOG. HOWEVER, WITH THE ADDITION OF THE EXTRA COURT, HAVING TWO COURTS RUNNING SIMULTANEOUSLY.

THAT IN ITSELF WILL HELP THE BACKLOG IMMENSELY.

THE THING YOU NEED TO DO RUNNING TWO COURTS SIMULTANEOUSLY IS WE NEED REPRESENTATION. WE NEED FOR THESE ATTORNEYS TO HELP WITH THE REPRESENTATION OF THE ABUSED AND NEGLECTED CHILDREN THIS THAT WILL HELP THE BACKLOG, YES, MA'AM.

IF IT MS.S THE COURT, I AM JEFF SCHMIDT.

I AM ONE OF THE THREE ARPA EMPLOYEES THAT FRANCIS KOESHGS WAS TALKING ABOUT. LET ME FIRST TALK ABOUT THE LEGAL ASSISTANT. EVERYBODY PRETTY MUCH IN ANY BUSINESS KNOW YOU ARE ONLY AS GOOD AS THE HELP YOU HAVE.

OKAY. ATTORNEYS AREN'T ANY DIFFERENT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE HELP. WE MAY THINK WE CAN DO IT ALL ON OUR OWN. WE CAN'T.

AT LEAST NOT WELL. WE HAVE TO HAVE HELP.

AND WE HAVE KRISTEN MOLDANADO WITH THREE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WHICH IS THE ARPA ASSISTANT. WE DESPERATELY NEED HER.

SHE DOES THE CPS. ASSISTING THE CPS ATTORNEY.

SHE IS HELP TO BACKLOG BY HELP THE ATTORNEYS BECOME MORE EFFICIENT. THE TWO ARPA ATTORNEYS AND MY WITH SELF AND JERRY. BETWEEN THE TWO OF US WE HAVE 88%S. I WAS LIGHTNING LICENSED IN 199 # AND I WAS LICENSED IN 1992. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT.

IF YOU ARE ANY BUSINESS OWNER AND GET EMPLOYEES WITH THIS AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE WITH LESS THAN THE MARKET VALUE? ABSOLUTELY. ANY BUSINESS OWNER WOULD DO THAT. NO DIFFERENT WHAT WE DO HERE.

IT IS THE SAME THEM. YOU KNOW WHAT I DO, I DO THE ARPA STUFF. I AM THE ARPA EXPERT, THOUGH I DON'T CONSIDER MYSELF AN EXPERT BUT THE MAIN THING I WAS HIRED TO DO. I FLOAT AROUND AND DO OTHER THINGS TOO. I HELP WITH OTHER LEGAL ISSUES WITH THE COURT. HELP RESEARCH THOSE.

MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT ANSWERS.

MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALTERNATIVES. I HELP TO REVIEW CONTRACTS.

I ALSO HELP OUTSIDE.COUNSEL WITH MATTERS IF WE HAVE POSSIBLE EMPLOYMENT ISSUE THAT'S COME OUT, I WORK CLOSELY WITH OUTSIDE COUNSEL, WORKING AS A LIAISON TO HELP THEM GET WHAT THEY NEED TO DO THEIR JOB. I ALSO HELP WITH A FEW CPS CASES. I HAVE A SMALL CASELOAD OF THOSE AS WELL AS AND AS I SAID EARLIER HELPS SOME OF THE OTHER CPS ATTORNEYS WITH SOME OF THEIR WORKLOAD.

MY POSITION THAT I AM IN, EVEN THOUGH IT IS CALLED THE ARPA

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POSITION. I DO THE ARPA WORK AND CPS CASES BUT OTHER THINGS AS WELL. NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OF OUR OTHER ATTORNEYS. THEY ARE CROSS TRAINED.

THEY DO MORE THAN ONE FUNCTION. EVEN THOUGH WE TRY TO SPECIALIZE SOMEONE, WE HELP EACH OTHER, WE ARE A TEAM.

YOU DON'T WANT TO BREAK UP A GOOD TEAM.

THANK YOU. >> HI, GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONER. MY NAME IS NICOLE RUSSELL.

I AM A CIVIL ATTORNEY. I RECENTLY HAVE BECOME THE CHIEF OF LITIGATION FOR THE COUNTY. I HAVE SPOKEN TO YOU ALL BEFORE ON BEHALF OF OUR CHILD WELFARE ATTORNEYS AND ON BEHALF OF COUNTY COURT 5 AND DRUG COURT. WE ARE ALSO INVOLVED IN THOSE ISSUES. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS MORNING.

I WANT TO TALK SPECIFICALLY OF THE CPS POSITIONS AND OUR CIVIL PROSECUTORS. YOU MAY NOT REALIZE THAT OUR OFFICERS HAVE PROSECUTORS IN IT, THE CIVIL PROSECUTORS.

THESE ARE THE ATTORNEYS THAT ARE ON THE ACTUAL FRONT LINES HELPING VICTIMS. OUR MOST VULNERABLE VICTIMS IN THE COUNTY. THE CHILDREN THAT ARE ABUSED AND NEGLECTED AND IT IS SO BAD THAT IT IS REMOVED FROM OUR PARENTS.

WE HANDLE THE MOST EXIFENT EMERGENCY CHILD REMOVALS.

WE HANDLE CASES OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

THAT THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS SO BAD, THEY NEED THE LEGAL INTERVENTION AND THEY NEED THE COURT TO HELP GET THEM OUT OF THE SITUATION. IN ADDITION TO THE MENTAL COMMITMENTS THAT WE DEAL WITH. NOW THE PUBLIC SERVANTS IN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ARE SPECIALIZED PROFESSIONALS TASKED WITH SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT LEGAL WORK IN THE COUNTY.

FOR EXAMPLE, THEY ARE ON -- OUR CPS ATTORNEYS ARE ON THE FRONT LINES DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT -- NOT DETERMINING, BUT HELPING THE COURT TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT A CHILD SHOULD BE PUT BACK IN AN UNVAEF SITUATION. WHEN A HAPPENS, IT IS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION. THE DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND PROTECTIVE SERVICES TAKES THE CHILD TEMPORARILY AND OUR ATTORNEYS HAVE TO BE READY TO GO TO COURT WITHIN 14 DAYS.

THAT MEANS THEY HAVE TO GATHER ALL OF THE EVIDENCE.

THEY HAVE TO SPEAK TO ALL OF THE PARTIES.

THEY HAVE TO GET ALL THE SUBPOENAS TOGETHER.

IF YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH CRIMINAL COURT, YOU KNOW THAT PROCESS MIGHT TAKE YEARS. OUR ATTORNEYS AND OUR STAFF MEMBERS HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TURN THAT AROUND VERY QUICKLY.

ADDITIONALLY, THEY HAVE TO BE READY ON A MOMENT'S NOTICE TO HAVE A MINI TRIAL. AT THAT 14-DAY PERIOD WE HAVE AN ADVERSARIAL HEARING. THE COURT HEARS EVIDENCE.

THEY HEAR FROM WITNESSES. THEY REVIEW THE RECORD.

WE HAVE TO GO UP AGAINST SOME OF THE MOST SKILLED DEFENSE ATTORNEYS IN THE COUNTY, IN THE REGION.

AND WE HAVE TO BE READY TO DO THAT WITHIN DAYS.

AND THE EXPERTISE THAT OUR ATTORNEYS BRING TO THOSE AREAS IS LITERALLY PRO PROTECTS CHILDREN.

IF WE ARE GOING UP AGAINST AN ATTORNEY WITH 30 YEARS DEFENSE EXPERIENCE. IT HELPS HAVING AN ATTORNEY WITH 50 YEARS' EXPERIENCE IN CHILD WELFARE AND ATTORNEYS WHO ARE CROSS TRAINED WHO HAVE REALLY DONE COMPLEX FELONY WORK, WORKING ON THOSE CASES ON OF THE CHILDREN.

THIS ISN'T A JOB THAT YOU CAN COME RIGHT OUT OF LAW SCHOOL AND DO. IT'S NOT.

THEY DON'T TEACH THESE KIND OF SKILLS IN LAW SCHOOL.

IT ONLY COMES WITH EXPERIENCE AND WORKING DAY IN AND DAY OUT WITH THESE CASES. I CAN SAY WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT THE ATTORNEYS WHO WORK IN NUECES COUNTY IN THE CHILD WELFARE ARENA ARE THE MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE AND THE MOST SKILLED ATTORNEYS AND PEOPLE WHO DEAL WITH THIS AREA OF LAW IN ALL OF SOUTH TEXAS. OTHER COUNTIES ASK US HOW TO GO ABOUT CHILD WELFARE WORK. SO OUR ATTORNEYS AND STAFF MEMBERS -- I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE OUR STAFF MEMBERS OUT.

THEY WORK VERY HARD. THEY ARE EXTREMELY SPECIALIZED IN WHAT WE DO. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY LEGAL SECRETARIES IN THE COUNTY WHO ARE DRAFTING POSITIONS AND SKELETON MOTIONS AND COMMUNICATE WITH COURT STAFF AND DOZENS OF CPS CASEWORKERS AND INVESTIGATORS.

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THESE STAFF MEMBERS -- AND VICTIMS. THESE STAFF MEMBERS AND OUR ATTO ATTORNEYS. WORTH IT.

WE NEED TO KEEP THESE THREE ARPA POSITIONS.

BECAUSE OUT THE ARPA POSITIONS OR THE ADDITIONAL CPS ATTORNEY AND JEFF WHO ALSO TAKES CPS CASES, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO IT. YOU HEARD FROM JUDGE MCCOY.

YOU HEARD FROM JUDGE HURTA. YOU HEARD FROM THE INCREASE OF CPS CASES AND HOW IT IS GETTING WORSE.

IN FACT UNANIMOUSLY I WAS SO PROUD THAT EVERY ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERSES RECOGNIZED THE NEED IN THE COMMUNITY AND SAID WE DO NEED A SECOND COURT ROOM AT COURT COURT 5.

OFF SECOND COURT ROOM, YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COURTROOM IS STAFFED. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE PROSECUTORS ON ONE SIDE OF THE TABLE, THE JUDGE CAN'T DO THEIR JOB AND YOU DON'T GET RID OF THE BACKLOG.

SO IN CLOSING, I WILL JUST SAY THAT THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE HARD WORK THAT OUR OFFICE HAS DONE IN THE PAST AND I HOPE THAT YOU CONTINUE TO RECOGNIZE IT.

THANKS. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

>> WHAT I HAVE UP HERE IS A POWER -- A SLIDE.

WE CAN'T SEE THE TOP UP THERE, BUT IT SUMMIZES THE COST OF HAVING THE TTHREE ARPA POSITION. WHAT I DID WAS TAKE A SNAPSHOT OF THE INFORMATION GAVE TO THE AUDITOR AND PLACE IT ON THE BOTTOM AND Y'ALL CAN REVIEW IT LATER, BUT THE NUMBERS ARE UP THERE. I AM GOING TO MOVE ALONG AND -- CONNIE, COULD YOU PLEASE CLICK ON THE POWERPOINT.

>> SORRY. WHEN I MOVED IT, IT TOOK THE

FOCUS AWAY. >> THANK YOU.

THE SECOND REQUEST THAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS A RECLASSIFICATION OF JOBS. WE HAVE -- WE ARE REQUESTING THAT ALL OF OUR LEGAL, A MIR I HAVE IT FOLKSES RECLASSIFIED BY -- I PUT PLUS ONE. WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT, IF WE HAVE AN LEGAL ASSISTANT 1, THAT THEY BE RECLASSIFIED AS LEGAL ASSISTANT 2, IF WE HAVE A LEGAL ASSISTANT 2, THAT THEY BE RECLASSIFIED TO LEGAL ASSISTANT 3.

THE JOB EXPERIENCE THEY HAVE. THE WORK THAT THEY DO MEET WITH VICTIMS, PREPARING AND DRAFTING MOTIONS.

AND WE ARE ALSO REQUESTING THIS TO BE MORE COMPETITIVE.

I WAS -- I AM HOPE TO CALL UP MARY ESTHER TO DESCRIBE THE TYPE OF WORK THAT OUR LEGAL ASSISTANTS DO IN THE OFFICE AND I DO KNOW THAT WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.

MARY, COULD YOU PLEASE SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY ON THIS.

>> ON THE LEGAL ASSISTANTS. >> YES, PLEASE.

>> GOOD MORNING. MAY IT PLEASE THE COURT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: YES, MA'AM. >> THANK YOU.

YOUR HONOR, WE HAVE LEGAL ASSISTANCE -- COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE LEGAL ASSISTANTS IN OUR OFFICE THAT ASSIST THE ATTORNEYS AND ARE INVALUABLE TO THE WORK THAT THE ATTORNEYS DO.

THEY PREPARE FOR OUR PROTECTIVE ORDER CASES.

WE HAVE ONE PARALEGAL THAT HANDLES ALL THE APPLICANTS.

INTERVIEWS THEM AND PREPARES THE AFFIDAVIT FOR THE PLEADINGS AND REQUEST OF THE COURT FOR THE TEMPORARY EX-PARTE CASE.

SHE DOES ALL OF THE PLEADINGS THAT GO WITH IT GETTING IT READY. SHE INTERVIEWS THE CLIENTS.

HER -- HER LOAD EVERY WEEK IS BETWEEN FIVE AND SIX INTERVIEWS A DAY WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ASKING FOR OUR OFFICE TO HELP THEM WITH PROTECTIVE ORDER. THAT IS 100 TO 120 CASE AS WEEK.

OUR OFFICE PUTS OUT A LOT OF CASES FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER.

OVER 100 CASES WE FILE. IF WE TO ALL THE INTERVIEWS SHE DOES, WE WILL BE AT 1140 CASES PER YEAR BEING HANDLED BY ONE ATTORNEY AND TWO LEGAL ASSISTANTS.

ONE THAT IS FULL TIME HANDLING INTERVIEWS ALL DAY LLONG A AND ESMER INTERVIEWING AND TAKING CARE OF CLIENTS AND THE CLIENTS' DAILY NEEDS. WE HAVE OUR ATTORNEYS THAT ARE RELYING ON THEIR ASSISTANTS TO CALENDAR.

TO HANDLE MOTION. TO HANDLE DISCOVERY.

TO MEET WITH VICTIMS. TO MEET WITH WITNESSES.

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NOW WE HAVE AMANI WHO HAS TO RELY ON SOMEONE TO HELP HER WITH THE CIVIL MENTAL HEALTH COMMITMENTS BECAUSE NID USED TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO DID THAT FOR US --.

>>JUDGE CANALES: TELL ME WHAT YOU MEAN THAT "THEY PULLED THAT." .

>> THEY HAVE A PERSON THAT ASSISTED US WITH THE CIVIL MENTAL HEALTH COMMITMENTS. HER NAME IS GLORIA ARONA.

MISS ARONA WILL HANDLE THE CALLS FOR MENTAL HEALTH WARRANTS.

SHE WOULD BRING THE APPLICANTS IN TO FILL OUT THE APPLICATION FOR A CIVIL COMMITMENT. AND SO WE LOST HER.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT ANYMORE. WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING FROM HAPPENED LING THE INITIAL CALLS FOR HELP WITH MENTAL HEALTH COMMITMENTS AND FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IMAGE I.D. WOULD RESUPPORT THAT?

WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL? >> THAT WOULD BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL, YOUR HONOR. WE CAN DO EVERYTHING THAT A

PERSON IS DOING. >>JUDGE CANALES: FORGIVE ME.

WE ARE HAVING OUR OWN EX-PARTE.

>> NIHD GETS OTHER FUNDING. WE ARE NOT FUNDING IT.

WE DON'T FUND ANYTHING. THEY ARE DIVERSION.

BUT HAVING SAID THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN ASK THEM TO

RESTORE. >> LET ME STEP IN REAL QUICK.

OUR ATTORNEY IMANI WHO WE ARE LOSE TO HARRIS COUNTY.

I AM VERY SAD. OUR OFFICE DETERMINES THE SCHEDULING FOR THE COURTS AND WE HELP THE COURTS IN THAT FUNCTION AS WELL. WE ARE NOT JESUS DOING ATTORNEY PRACTICE. WE ARE ASSISTING THE COURTS TO DO THESE THINGS. WE ARE ASSISTING NIHD.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: MARY, SORRY TO.

IN INTERRUPT YOU. IF SOMEBODY IS ASSIGNED TO AN AGENT LIKE NIHD FUNDED THROUGH THE DISTRICT AND I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW RIGHT AWAY TO TRY TO RESTORE THAT.

PAUSE IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS HELPING YOU GUYS AND YOU DON'T

HAVE IT, WE SHOULD KNOW. >>JUDGE CANALES: SHE MAY HAVE RETIRED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO

HER. >> I DON'T BELIEVE SHE IS RETIRED, YOUR HONOR. I BELIEVE SHE IS STILL W WITH MIHD. AND I DON'T KNOW THE REASON FOR THE SHIFT. MR. HENDRICKS NOR WILL DAVIS CONTACTED OUR OFFICE, I DON'T BELIEVE -- IS IT JENNY?

>>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL MAKE THAT FIR.

WHEN YOU WATCHED ME, I WAS HANGING UP WITH THEM.

>> A BUSINESS DECISION. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PERFORM THAT FUNCTION. THEY THOUGHT IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE TO DO IT FROM THEIR END.

THAT'S WHAT --. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE BUT THEY STILL NEED TO DISCUSS IT WITH US SO MAYBE WE CAN FIND AN ALTERNATE ROUTE, BECAUSE IT PUTS US IN A PICKLE

AS WELL. >> YES, IT DOES.

BECAUSE IN ADDITION TO ALL OF HER OTHER DUTIES.

THE ATTORNEYS THAT HANDLE THE MENTAL HEALTH ORDERS AND THE PREPAREDNESS IS HANDING DOCKETS FOR THE COURT, HANDLING WITNESS PREPARATIONS, MAKING SURE WE HAVE ALL THE WITNESSES, TALKING TO THE STAFF AT THE HOSPITALS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE MEDICAL CERTIFICATES THAT ARE REQUIRED TO GO FORWARD ON A CIVIL

COMMITMENT. >>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT.

WELL, FORGIVE ME FOR THE INTERRUPTION BUT A PROBLEM THAT

HAS A POTENTIAL SOLUTION. >> IT WILL HELP, YOUR HONOR.

AND WE HAVE SO MUCH THAT OUR OFFICE DOES.

JENNY TALKED ABOUT OUR ARMY, BUT OUR ARMY IS SMALL.

WE ARE ALL AT HER BECK AND CALL, BUT WE ARE SMALL.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I UNDERSTAND SMALL ARMIES.

>> WE HAVE -- WE REPRESENT 4748 DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE COUNTY AND ELECTED OFFICIALS, PLUS WE HAVE OUTSIDE AGENCIES THAT WE REPRESENT. BECAUSE WE REPRESENT THE MPO AS YOU ARE AWARE OF AND THE NUECES COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

STORM WATCH TORY OBLIGATIONS THAT OUR COUNTY HAS.

AS YOU HEARD WE REPRESENT IS FROM CPS.

THE PUBLIC. ONLY IN CAPACITY AS PROTECTIVE ORDERS. THOSE ARE OBLIGATIONS THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS IT BESTOWED UPON OUR OFFICE.

BUT WITH THAT DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY FUNDS FOR US.

JUST THE OBLIGATION. WE HAVE TO DIVIDE WHATEVER RESOURCES WE CAN GET AS EFFICIENTLY AS WE CAN WE CAN.

AND WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY FOUR ATTORNEYS FROM OUR 11 THAT CAN HELP US HELP US HANDSEL THE 47 -- THE 49 DIFFERENT NUECES

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COMPANY DEPARTMENTS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I NOTICED ON HERE -- AND I AM NOT RUSHING YOU -- I NOTICED SINCE YOU ATTEND THE HOSPITAL BOARD DISTRICT AS

WELL. >> I AM ASSIGNED TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND THAT IN ITSELF IS ALMOST A FULL-TIME JOB.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I WOULD AGREE. AND BEARS NOTING THEY HAVE A FULL-TIME LAWYER AND WHATEVER THE HOUSTON LAWYERS COST THESE DAYS. BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT OFF REQUEST TO HAVE SOME REIMBURSEMENT AT 112,000.

IS THAT CORRECT? >> MY SALARY IS REIMBURSED BY

THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE CONTINUAL

ASK FOR THAT. >> YES, YOUR HONOR.

THEY HAVE BEEN GENEROUS AND ALWAYS REIMBURSED THE SALARY IN THIS POSITION, 100%. THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT HAS OTHER COUNSEL THAT THEY RETAIN BUT THEY ARE NOT FULL-TIME.

THEY HANDLE THINGS AS THE NEED ARISES IN ESPECIALLY WITH THE

KRISTA SPAWN AGREEMENT. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST REMIND ME STATUTORILY THAT WE HAVE IT THERE.

>> THEY HAVE THE RIGHT FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR

REPRESENTATION. >>JUDGE CANALES: TO MAKE SURE WHEN PEOPLE SEE THAT, THAT IN PRACTICE THAT'S HOW -- THAT'S HOW WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING. IT IS NOT NEW.

>> NO. OUR OBLIGATION IS CPS IS STATUTORY. THE OBLIGATION FOR THE PROTECTIVE ORDER IS STATUTORY. SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO NO MATTER HOW MANY STAFF MEMBERS WE HAVE AND HOW THINLY WE HAVE TO SPREAD OURSELF. WE STILL HAVE THOSE OBLIGATIONS.

THE FOUR ATTORNEYS TO HANDLE REQUEST FROM THE? COMMISSIONERS COURT. FROM THE DIFFERENT APARTMENTS.

ALSO HANDLE PI AREQUESTS. SO FAR THIS YEAR WE ARE UP TO

170 PIA REQUESTS. >>JUDGE CANALES: DON'T I KNOW.

>> THEY ARE VOLUMINOUS SOMETIMES.

THEY TAKE TIME. ALEXANDRA HAS A GREAT HANDLE ON THAT LAW, BUT WHEN SHE IS PULLED AWAY FROM PIA REQUESTS.

WE CAN'T ASK HER FOR ADVISORY OR RESEARCH.

WE CAN'T ASK HER TO REVIEW -- TO HELP US REVIEW CONTRACTS.

SO SOMETIMES WE ARE DOWN TO MYSELF AND MR. BROWN HANDLING CONTRACTS. WE ARE ALWAYS -- WE ALWAYS TRY TO BE AS QUICK TO RESPOND TO IT THE COMEDIES AND YOURSELF AS MUCH AS WE CAN. BUT THE BOND CONTINUES TO ALLOW US TO LAG BEHIND, BUT WE TRY TO DO THE VERY BEST THAT WE CAN.

NOW THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE RECEIVED RECLASSIFICATIONS LAST YEAR. OUR OFFICE DID NOT.

OUR OFFICE HAS ATTORNEYS WITH THE SAME EXPERIENCE AND POSSIBLY

MORE EXPERIENCE THAN WE HAVE. >>JUDGE CANALES: CORRECT.

>> WE DID NOT RECEIVE THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: UNDERSTOOD.

>> AND WE ARE ASKING FOR IT THIS YEAR.

I KNOW THIS COURT FACES SO MANY REQUESTS.

AND OUR OFFICE PROBABLY SEES THE BURDENS THAT THIS COURT FACES BEFORE OTHER DEPARTMENTS; HOWEVER, YOUR HONOR, WHEN A PARENT SETS ITS DINNER TABLE REGARDLESS OF HOW MEAGER THEIR RESOURCES, THEY SERVE FOR ALL OF THEIR CHILDREN.

NO ONE CAN BE LEFT OUT. AND WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY SPECIAL TREATMENT. WE ARE JUST ASKING FOR EQUAL TREATMENT. #.

>>JUDGE CANALES: UNDERSTOOD. >> THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THANK Y

YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY.

FRANCIS KOESHGS, THE TIME WE HAVE LEFT, THE HIGHQ SOFTWARE IS

YOUR REMAINING. >> WE HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING RECLASSIFICATION OF JOBS.

WE HAVE THE POWER -- GOING TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CORN FAIRY. WE USED CORN FAIRY IN OUR ANALYSIS AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT TIME CONSUMING.

I CAN SUMMARIZE ALL OF IT PROBABLY WITH THIS ONE PICTURE HERE. THE WAY THAT CORN FAIRY WORKS.

A 2020 STUDY WITH COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY IN 2020 BY CORN FAIRY. THIS IS A PRIORITY SYSTEM.

16TH, 17TH, 19TH CORN FAIRY GRADING SYSTEM.

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CORN FAIRY. WHAT WE HAVE IN YELLOW ARE ATTORNEY 2. THE NEXT ONE IS ATTORNEYS 3.

AND THE CHIEFS ARE 19 IN THE BLUE AREA AND WE PUT LITTLE DOTS AND CIRCLES TO SEE WHERE OUR SALARIES ARE.

THE THREE RED LINES. THE BOTTOM RED LINE, THE 25% MEANS WITH THAT LINE WHAT YOU HAVE IS -- THAT MEANS THAT -- THAT'S THE 25TH PERCENTILE. THAT MEANS THAT EVERYONE

RECEIVED LESS THAN 25%. >>JUDGE CANALES: OF MARKET.

>> OF MARKET. AN ATTORNEY 3 POSITION THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR GIVEN THEIR KILLS, KNOWLEDGE, EDUCATION, EXPERIENCE, TRAINING.

THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE MAKING MORE -- THEY WOULD BE MAKING MORE. THEY WOULD BE PROBABLY IN THE 25TH PERCENTILE. THE MAIN PART OFKORN FAIRY.

AND GO OVER THE PAY SCALES. WE HAVE GROUPS, 35 TO 44.

WE ARE HOPE THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE THE COUNTY PERSONNEL MANUAL.

WE HAVE SECTIONS IN HERE AND WE DON'T HAVE TO REVIEW THEM RIGHT NOW. IT HAS TO DO WITH WHY WE HAVE PAY GROUPS. .

IN SUMMARY WE HAVE PAY GROUPS BECAUSE IT OFFERS TRANSPARENCY.

IT OFFERS A WAY TO NORMALIZE THE SALARIES.

WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS AFTER LAST YEAR, THE PAY GROUPS FOR THE FELONY -- FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY -- FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S POSITIONS. AND THEN OUR OFFICE WE ACTUALLY HAVE THREE TYPES OF -- WE HAVE FOUR CLASSIFICATIONS, ATTORNEY 2, #, 5 AND THEN OUR CHIEF'S. I AM HOPING -- HE IS THE LOST PERSON WE ARE HOPE TO SPEAK IS MATT DUNIS.

CAN HE MAKE A COMMENT? >>JUDGE CANALES: OF COURSE.

>> MAY IT PLEASE THE COURT, I WILL BE VERY BRIEF.

MY NAME IS MATT. I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN CORPUS.

I AM STARTING MIDFIELDER FOR THE COURTHOUSE SOCCER TEAM.

I MET MY WIFE HERE AT THE COURTHOUSE AND WE GOT MARRIED AT THE COURTHOUSE. I WORKED WITH LEGAL AID AND NOW WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WITH THE LITIGATION DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE A COUNTY OF 400,000 PEOPLE. AND A LITIGATION TEAM OF TWO ATTORNEYS WITH NO SUPPORT STAFF. WE ARE A VERY SMALL ARMY THAT LIKES TO FIGHT. HAVING SAID THAT, WE HANDLE CIVIL SUITS AGAINST THE JAIL AND.STATE COURTS, SUITS AGAINST JAILERS. WE REPRESENT PEOPLE IN THE COURT HOUSE. A CONSTABLE WHO GETS IN A WEIRD BIND. EVEN A COURT REPORTER.

AND 12B 6S, MOTIONS FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT.

WE PROVIDE LEGAL ASSISTANT WITH THINGS LIKE THE GAME ROOM PROJECT. CONTRACT DISPUTES.

WHENAL A WHENALAN TO SETTLE, AND SKWUN GIVES HIM A FELT. WE GIVE HIM LEGAL ADVICE.

WE HAVE ONE CASE WHERE WE HAVE 150 REQUEST FOR PRODUCTIONS AND WE HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH OUR OUTSIDE COUNCIL TO GET THEM EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO PROTECT THE COUNTY.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF SOMETHING AS AN ATTORNEY TOO THAT I DID OR THAT OUR OFFICE DID.

WE HAD A BILL REVIEW CASE THAT WHEN WE GOT TO IT, THE NEWSPAPER WAS CELEBRATING THE VICTIM OF OUR OPPONENT IN COURT.

NOT THAT YOU WANT TO GET. AND WE ARE ABLE WITH OUR OFFICES AND RESOURCES TO MOUNT A DEFENSE THAT WE SAVED THE COUNTY IN BACK PAY OF $250,000. THOSE ARE THE KIND OF RESULTS THAT WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THAT WE ARE REALLY GLAD THAT RESOURCES GET TO STAY HERE TO HELP IN ANY PROJECTS THAT THE COUNTY DEEMS -- ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN SERVE THE COUNTY IN THAT WAY. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT TIME. JUDGE JUDGE THANK YOU.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE WHEN --. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE WHEN I.T. COMES IN AND COME DOWN FOR THE INTEREST OF TIME, WE CAN TACKLE THE SOFTWARE AT THAT TIME WITH I.T. YOU WILL NEVER GET AN ARGUMENT FOR ME THAT MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE AS A LAWYER IS NOT ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NEEDED. I AM WANTING TO DIVE INTO THE A $06,000 COMMITMENT. $6500 PER MONTH.

>> YES, YOUR HONOR. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE QUESTION IS TECHNICAL. A ONE-TIME LICENSING FEE AND PAY

EVERY YEAR SUBSEQUENTLY $60,000. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: LIKE A WEST LAW, A CONTINUAL STWRA CASE

MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE. >> CORRECT, YOUR HONOR.

PARTS OF THOMPSON REUTER. IT WORKS WITHWESLAW.

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>>JUDGE CANALES: WITH THAT, I WILL PROPOSE THAT TO DARYL BECAUSE HONESTLY THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT COMES OUT OF YOUR POCKET. KIND OF HOW I SEE IT.

IT IS SUPPORT IN I.T., AND IT NEEDS -- IF YOU WERE DALE, I WOULD LOOK OVER AND SAY, RIGHT, DALE.

LET US -- LET'S DIVE INTO THE SOFTWARE SO IT DOES NOT PUNISH YOU HERE IN THIS ASK, BUT RATHER MAYBE THROWN INTO A -- I CAN TELL YOU FOR SURE FOR A YEAR. AND THEN WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO

MAINTAIN IT AND SUSTAIN IT. >> YOUR HONOR, ARE YOU ASKING THAT WE COME BACK IN THE AFTERNOON TO DISCUSS --.

>>JUDGE CANALES: NOT THE WHOLE CREW.

>> YOU I CAN COME THIS AFTERNOON.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I FEEL THAT WOULD BE THE BEST USE OF TIME.

>> YES, I CAN DO THE THIRD REQUEST IN THE AFTERNOON.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> AS MATT WAS TALKING. HE MENTIONED ALL THE TYPES OF WORK THAT HE DOES. HE IS AN ATTORNEY 2.

IT IS ACTUALLY A 32 PAY GRADE, 32 PAY SCALE.

WHICH THE SAME OF A MISS DEANER 2 THAT REQUIRES ONE YEAR OF EXPERIENCE. THE ATTORNEY 2 POSITION HAS SOME SORTS OF JOB REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING BEING ABLE TO DO 1983 LITIGATION. FEDERAL COURT.

FIFTH CIRCUIT AS WELL. SO HAS ALL SORTS OF REERMENTS AND REQUIRES A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE AND A LOT OF SPECIALIZATION. WE HAVE -- OUR ATTORNEY 3S AT A 33. ATTORNEY 5 AT A 35.

AND OUR CHIEF ARE 40. WE ARE REQUESTING EQUALITY TO BE EQUAL WITH THE D.A.'S OFFICE AND EVERYBODY IS MOVING UP TWO PAY GRADES. IT WOULD LOOK SOMETHING LIKE THIS. NOW JENNY HAS ANOTHER REQUEST HERE THAT SHE IS HOPE TO EXPLAIN IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.

>>JUDGE CANALES: DO YOU HAVE -- IS THAT THE $200,000 ADJUSTMENT THAT I SEE -- FOR THESE RECLASSES?

>> THE RECLASSIFICATION THAT THE 200 --.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IS IT 275? HOLD ON A SECOND.

I NEED TO PULL ANOTHER ONE. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: 167.

>> THAT SOUNDS REQUEST. WE ARE ASKING AND WE START OUT -- WE STARTED OUT REQUESTING THIS OF AND WE WILL SAY IT AGAIN, WANT TO RECLASSIFY FRANCIS KOESHGS ZAMORA'S POSITION WHEN WE HAVE TWO CO-EQUAL CHIEF OF ALDERMAN ADMINISTRATION AND LITIGATION. I FIND IT IS MUCH MORE EFFICIENT TO HAVE A CLEAR AND DISTINCT CHAIN OF COMMAND.

MR. ZAMORA PERFORMED ALL THE FUNCTIONS AND CONTINUES TO PERFORM ALL THE FUNCTIONS AS A FIRST ASSISTANT AND WE WANT HIM TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR THAT. IN MY ABSENCE.

HE PERFORMED EVERY FICTION I AM ABLE TO PERFORM AND HE IT YOU IT VERY WELL. AS YOU HAVE SEEN ON MANY, MANY OCCASIONS. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ASKING. WE ARE NOT EVEN ASKING TO BRING HIM UP TO TO THE SAME PAY GRADE AS THE FIRST ASSISTANT ON THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BUT TO RECOGNIZE THE FUNCTIONS THAT HE HAS GECH TO THE COUNTY. AND HE HAS GIVEN GIVEN TO THE COUNTY IN A PAY CUT TO COME HERE AND WORK WITH THE COUNTY.

NO ARGUMENT HERE. THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE NEED TO SORT THROUGH THIS. SO MANY PAPERS AND WE NEED TO GET TO HOMER. WHAT I AM SAYING IS 388.186.

OF COURSE I SEE. >> THE 300 INCLUDES THE ARPA POSITION. WE SAW EARLIER THAT THE ARPA WILL BE 204. IF YOU DEDUCT 204.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT MAKES MORE SENSE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. I WILL GO THROUGH AND AS PRESENTATIONS GO IT ALWAYS SHOCKS ME AND GIVE EVERYBODY A WARNING WHO IS LISTEN IN BIG BROTHER LAND THAT PEOPLE DON'T COME AND ADVOCATE FOR THEMSELVES.

WHAT IS THAT ABOUT. LAST YEAR YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT THE COMMISSION MADE EVERY DEPARTMENT COME.

WE DIDN'T DO THAT. WE PLUM FORGOT.

IF YOU ARE A LEADER IF YOU COME AND ADVOCATE.

WHEN THE TEAM CAN SUPPORT THE LEADER, THAT IS VERY HELPFUL

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BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULD HEAR FROM THE INDIVIDUAL.

AS I WOULD EXPECT AND PROPER AND TRAINING BY YOUR EXPERIENCE, YOU DO A MARVELOUS JOB OF ADVOCATING.

THAT IS YOUR SKILL. THAT IS YOUR CRAFT.

WELL-DONE AND TO MARY ESTHER WHO GAVE THE MOST IMPASSIONED ARGUMENT ABOUT FOOD AT THE TABLE.

I WILL INVITE YOU BACK VIRTUALLY WHEN WE DISCUSS THE ACTUAL PRELIMINARY TOTALS BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOUR GUIDANCE AND YOUR HELP WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE IS TO FOOD TO DIVIDE SP BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR.

THAT IS EXACTLY MY PREDICTION WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

WE ARE NOT IN A SITUATION WHERE A PARENT DOESN'T WANT TO BE EQUITABLE. NEWISH A POSITION WHERE A UP PARENT HAS NO FOOD. THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE HAVE A 12 YEAR PLUS, PLUS, PLUS, PLUS OF NOT ADJUSTING SALARIES.

AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT KORN.FAIRY STUDY BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON THE OVER ITS LAST DECADE. MOVE EVERYBODY FROM THE 25% TO THE 50% RANGE. GUESS WHAT, YOU ARE STILL 50% BELOW MARKET VALUE. WE ARE TRYING -- WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO THE RIDICULOUS WHICH IS 50% OF THE MARKET VALUE, AND WE HAVEN'T OPINION ABLE TO DO IT.

YOU ARE NOT -- WHILE YOU ARE UNIQUE, YOU ARE NOT UNIQUE IN THIS WAY. IT IS IN EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT IN THIS COUNTY. AND WITH YOUR HELP AND PATIENCE, YOU HELP US FOCUS ON THOSE AREAS THAT MUST BE -- JUST MUST FOCUS ON. AND I THINK YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB AND FOR OUR PURPOSES EXTREMELY HELPFUL TO REMIND THE COURT NOT ABOUT THE CIVIL ONLY. AND I THOUGHT THAT IS WHAT YOU

DID VERY WELL. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.

I WANT TO ADDRESS THAT. WHY TO OUR OFFICE.

YOU ARE DECIDING WHERE TO PUT YOUR DOLLARS.

COMMISSIONERS, I SUGGEST THAT WHEN YOU ARE DECIDING WHERE TO PUT YOUR DOLLARS, BETWEEN THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE VICTIM AND THE ABUSER. PUT THE DOLLARS BETWEEN THE CHILD AND THE CRACK ADDICT PARENT.

THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS WHAT YOU DID VERY WELL. NOT THAT THE CIVIL ISN'T OUR LIVELY. WE LIVE IN THE CIVIL.

HOMER WILL BE SO QUICK. HE HAVE NO ASKS.

HE DOESN'T MIND THE TIME LOST. HOMER, YOU ARE ON DECK.

FRANCISCO SEE YOU BACK THIS AFTERNOON.

>> IF I CAN JUST GO OVER SOME NUMBERS.

ONE MINUTE. WE TO HAVE $100,000 GRANT W WITH CPS THAT I BELIEVE WILL BE RENEW THE IN 2025.

WE GET REIMBURSED $100,000. WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THAT. AND POINT OUT -- THESE ARE REQUESTS -- TOP PART -- I LABELED THEM IN ARPA.

IF THAT WAS, I WANTED THEM TO BE COUNTED.

WE RECEIVE $100,000. THE LAST REGARDING THE ATTORNEY 5. IF THE PAY SCALE IS INCREASED THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT DOES REIMBURSE THAT MONEY.

THEY DID FOR LAST YEAR REIMBURSE APPROXIMATELY -- I BELIEVE $112,000. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.

IF IT IS INCREASED THE HOSPITAL DES STRICT WILL REIMBURSE THAT.

IF THE ATTORNEY 5 IS INCREASED NO FISCAL IMPACT TO THE COUNTY.

THAT'S --. >>JUDGE CANALES: MARY ESTHER, WOULD BE BOARD HAVE TO AGREE TO THAT?

>> I HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

THEY BUDGET A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF EVERYONE WHERE THAT INCREASE IS

IN THIS AMOUNT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS WHAT I NEEDED TO KNOW. TERESA WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING.

YES, MA'AM. >> HELLO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: YES, MA'AM IS. >> FARCE THE SOFTWARE, IF I.T.

DIDN'T WORK OUT THOSE FUNDS, YEAR ONE GOES TO CAPITAL OUTLAY.

AND A YEAR AFTER THAT WITH A FIVE-YEAR DEAL HAS TO BE IN I.T.

AND BUDGET. >>JUDGE CANALES: GOT IT.

MAKE NOTES ON THAT SOFTWARE PIECE OF THAT.

>> THANK YOU, COURT. ARE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, WE KNOW -- I KNOW HOW MUCH IT TAKES TO PUTS THAT EXCELLENT POWERPOINT TOGETHER, AS THEY

SAY. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THANK

YOU, GUYS. >>JUDGE CANALES: APPRECIATE IT.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: AND GALS.

. >>JUDGE CANELES: HOMER, YOU WILL BE NEXT AND ALL I NEED TO IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THE NEXT DEPARTMENT -- THE NEXT DEPARTMENT IS -- 34830, 2480,

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2490 AND 2492. YOU MAY BEGIN WHENEVER YOU WOULD

LIKE. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS. GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>> THIS WILL BE BRIEF AND I DON'T MIND GIVING UP PART OF MY TIME TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

AS YOU KNOW, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM IN OUR LITIGATION CASES. THEY HELPED US OUT TREMENDOUSLY AND THE WORK THEY DO A ON A DAILY BASIS WITH THE CPS CASES.

SO I DON'T MIND AT ALL. MY REQUEST WAS PRESENTED BEFORE THE JUVENILE BOARD LAST WEEK. THEY APPROVED THE REQUEST AND ALLOWED ME TO PRESENT THE SAME REQUEST TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TODAY. SO BOTTOM LINE, COMMISSIONERS, JUDGE, 10.8% INCREASE IN SALARY FOR JUVENILE OFFICERS IN 3490.

AND OUR POSTED ADJUDICATION FACILITIES.

IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MUCH $213,000.

JUST TO REMIND YOU, OUR JUVENILE SUPERVISION OFFICERS ARE THE STAFF THAT ARE ON THE FLOOR EVERY DAY, 4 HOURS A DAY WHAT IT IS IN DETENTION, BRINGING KIDS IN.

FIRST OF ALL, OBVIOUSLY, WORKING WITH THE POLICE.

MAKING SURE THAT KID CAN BE DETAINED.

IN THEY ARE, THEY DO THE NECESSARY WORK TO GET THEM PREPARED TO GO INTO THEIR ROOMS. THE NEXT DAY, WE ARE MONITORING THE KIDS ALL DAY, WHETHER IT IS AT SCHOOL OR SHOWER ISES AND BEDTIME. ON THE POST ADJUDICATION SIDE, THERE ARE MORE PROGRAM IN PLACE. AND THESE SUPERVISOR ARE THERE 24-7. THEY DO NOT HAVE TO GO HOME DURING EMERGENCIES BECAUSE THEY STAY JUST LIKE THE JAILERS DID.

OUR FRONT-LINE STAFF THAT ARE WITH THE KIDS AND PROBABLY KNOW THE KIDS BETTER THAN OUR PROBATION OFFICERS.

THESE ARE THE PERSONNEL THAT I AM ASKING OR REQUESTING THE INCREASE IN SALARY. OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.

WE HAD 139% TURNOVER RATE IN OUR FACILITIES.

OUR HOURLY RATE ARE LOWER THAN THE REGIONIAL AVERAGE AND MORE SO COMPARED TO THE STATE AVERAGE.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THE SALARY IS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO OUR TURNOVER RATE. SO SOME OF THE FIGURES THAT YOU HAVE THERE FOR YOU REALLY CONSISTENT OF BOTH SOUTHERN COUNTIES AND ALSO COUNTIES OF LIKE SIZE.

I THOUGHT IT IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE NOT ALL THE SOUTHERN COUNTIES HAVE FACILITIES AND THOSE THAT HAVE FACILITIES ARE NOT ALL OUR SIZE.

SOME ARE OBVIOUSLY BIGGER. THE AVERAGE HOURLY RATES IS $17.60 FOR JUVENILE SUPERVISION OFFICER COMPARED TO NUECES COUNTY RATE OF $15.52. FOR A SUPERVISOR ON THE -- IN THAT AIM AREA, IT IS $20.41. AND NUECES COUNTY IS $17.54 RESPECTIVELY. SO I AM REQUESTING THAT WE BRING OUR J SO STAFF TO A RATE OF $17.20 AND $19.43 RESPECTIVELY.

THIS IS A ONE-STEP INCREASE FOR THE REGULAR LINE SUPERVISION OFFICER AND TWO STEP FOR THE SUPERVISORS.

YOU DON'T HAVE THE DATA IN FRONT OF US BUT A I GOT IT FROM THE STATE THAT THEY COMPILED AFTER SUBMITTING THE DATA TO YOU.

BUT IN SHORT OUR STATE WITH THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT IS DIVIDED INTO SEVEN REGIONS. OBVIOUSLY WE ARE THE SOUTHERN REGION. THE SALARY IS THE LOWEST IN THE STATE, THE AVERAGE $34,015. THE HIGHEST WITH COMPARISON AT $49,656. THE NUECES COUNTY CURRENT RATE AT 15.52, $30,281. SO WE ARE CURRENTLY THE LOWEST OF THE LOWEST AVERAGE PROPOSED HOURLY RATE BRINGS US JUST ABOVE THE SOUTH REGION'S HOURLY AVE

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AVERAGE. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND NOT TRYING TO BE THE HIGHEST PAID IN THE STATE OR THE REGION, BUT I AM TRYING TO MOVE THE NUMBER CLOSER TO A BELL CURVE AND THIS IS WHERE WE PUT IT RIGHT BEFORE THE AVERAGE AND AT THE AVERAGE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN THE LOWEST?

>> SINCE MY TENURE, AT LEAST 15 YEARS.

I AM NOT SAYING AS A RESULT OF MY TENURE --.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OF COURSE NOT. I DIDN'T MAKE THAT CONNECTION.

>> HOMER, EXCUSE ME. I USED TO WORK AS AN HOURLY EMPLOYEE. AND I FEEL YOUR PAIN AND THE EMPLOYEES' PAIN. I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH IT. I WENT THROUGH IT.

EVERY TIME I GOT A RAISE, IT AMOUNTED TO A QUARTER, BUT I KNOW WE CAN DO THIS IF WE TAKE GOOD LOOK APT OUR BUDGETS AND SPEND OUR MONEY WISELY. IT CAN BE DONE.

IT CAN BE DONE AND I FEEL FOR YOU GUYS AND WE WANT TO HELP AS

MUCH AS I CAN. >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW ME BUT I FEEL PRUDENT IN SOME OF OUR REQUESTS.

I FEEL COMFORTABLE IN THIS REQUEST BECAUSE I AM ASKING FOR THE STAFF THAT WORK WITH THESE KIDS ON A DAILY BASIS.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THIS STAFF.

ARE THEY REQUIRED TO HAVE ANY KIND OF AN EDUCATION OR ANY KIND

OF A DEGREE OR WHAT? >> THE STAFF I AM REQUESTING DOES NOT REQUIRE A DEGREE, BUT THERE IS A CERT AT THIS OCCASION PROCESS AND TRAINING THAT NEEDS TO BE TREATED BEFORE BEING ABLE TO SUPERVISE KIDS. 40S HOURS ONGOING EVERY OTHER YEAR THE REQUIREMENT WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE MET.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THE BASE PAY IS WHAT THEY GIVE PER

HOUR? >> YES, SIR.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHEN THEY DO THE INCREASE ACROSS THE THE BOARD, DO THEY GET THE INCREASE?

>> YES, THEY DO. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NOT ONLY THEN BUT THE $19 OR $19. THOSE COMING IN, YOU KNOW, TO ME, $15 REAL LOW. BUT THOSE COMING IN AFTER THEM WILL ACTUALLY HAVE A GOOD SALARY ALSO HOPEFULLY START THE

PROPOSED RATE. >>JUDGE CANALES: HIS PROPOSAL TO MOVE THEM FROM 15 15. NO ONE WILL GET LOWER THAN $17.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: $17 OR $19.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IN 2019, IT WAS ACTUALLY LOWER.

WE MOVED IT FROM 2019. >> YES, I REMEMBER THAT.

THAT'S RIGHT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE FIRST MOVE IS 2019. OKAY, HOMER, YOU MIGHT JUST MENTION THAT THE BOARD OF JUDGES -- NOT THE BOARD OF JUDGES, BUT THE JUVENILE BOARD THAT IS MADE OF JUDGES.

MAY MENTION OUR ACTION THERE. >> I THOUGHT I HAD.

THE BOARD OF -- YOU GOT ME -- THE JUVENILE FILED BOARD LAST THURSDAY APPROVED THIS ASK AND FOR ME TO COME BEFORE THE

COMMISSIONERS COURT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU SAID THAT FROM THE BEGINNING, $1901.

$5,000. WHAT IS THE 19.

>> THAT I CAN GET YOU IN A COUPLE OF SECONDS -- OR DIANA

CONDITION. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU

CAN GET ME LATER. >> 36,43.

$ $36,483.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, APPRECIATE IT.

LIKE EVERYBODY SHOULD START AT $19.

YOU ARE DOING A GOOD JOB OUT THERE, HOMER.

I APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

>>JUDGE CANALES: HOMER, ANYTHING ELSE FOR US?

>> NO. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHEN WE DID USE THE TIME WISELY AS YOU SAID. OKAY, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THE ARGUMENT IS WHETHER IT IS MERITORIOUS.

>> AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION AS WELL.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THANK YOU, HOMER.

>>JUDGE CANALES: AT THIS TIME, THE NEXT ONE -- I AM NOT SURE IF THEY ARE HERE. LET ME PULL BACK.

WE ARE SUPPOSE TO HEAR FROM THE COUNTY LIBRARY SYSTEM.

IDA. IT IS A LITTLE EARLY.

IT'S NOT UNTIL 10:00. WE CAN TAKE -- THERE IS NOBODY

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ONLINE, COMMISSIONER-WISE. WE CAN TAKE A LITTLE TEN-MINUTE BREAK. USE THE BATHROOM OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO DO. AND COME BACK.

BUT MIGHT WE CALL HER -- I AM SURE SHE IS COME FROM ROBSTOWN.

JUST LIKE THE SCHEDULE SAYS -- BY THE WAY IF SHE GETS HERE QUICKLY, JUST -- WE WILL BE HAPPY TO COME BACK AND SAVE TIME. OKAY.

10:00. LET'S GO AHEAD AND PUT THE D AON NOTICE THAT WE ARE RUNNING FASTER THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULD BE IN THE COURT ROOM BY 10:30.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THERE SHE IS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THERE SHE IS. PERFECT TIMING.

>> OH, WE WERE GOING TO GET A BREAK.

>> YOU CAN. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU COST US A DOUGHNUT. SORRY.

YOU KNOW WHAT, GIVE HER A CHANCE TO ORGANIZE.

WE WILL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE

. >>JUDGE CANALES: SO LET ME TURN TO THAT. YOU GOT SOMETHING THAT CONNIE

NEEDS TO PUT UP OR NO? >> YES, THE INFO GRAPHICS.

WE HAD A LITTLE INFO GRAPHICS THAT HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION. I WON'T TOUCH ON EVERYTHING, BUT

JUST A FEW ITEMS. >>JUDGE CANALES: GO AHEAD.

>> WHAT I WANTED TO TOUCH BASE ON.

SINCE I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 15 YEARS, EVERY YEAR WE HAVE TO SUBMIT REPORTS TO THE TEXAS LIBRARY AND ARCHIVES DIVISION AND WE HAVE BEEN ACCREDITED FOR THE PAST 15 YEARS AND TELLS A LOT OF STATISTICS TO THE STATE LIBRARIES AND FOR US TO APPLY FOR OUR GRANTS, WE HAVE TO BE ACCREDITED AND THE LAST TWO YEARS HAVE BEEN VERY DIFFICULT -- GOING ON THE THIRD YEAR BECAUSE COVID AND THEY CHANGED THE GUIDELINES HOW WE DO THE STATISTICS AND THEY DID A LOT OF PAPERWORK.

AND WE HAD TO DO THE PAPERWORK AGAIN THIS YEAR BECAUSE THEY CHANGED THE GUIDE ANS IN THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.

A BUT I AM HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE APPLIED FOR MANY GRANTS AND $55,100 WORTH OF GRANTS BECAUSE ACCREDITATION OF THE STATE TEXAS LIBRARIES. WE HAD A LOT OF PROGRAMMING AND CIRCULATED ITEMS. 65,500.

VISITS TO OUR WI-FI AT THE LIBRARY INSIDE AND ON THE OUTSIDE PERIMETER. WE HAVE BEEN WORK WITH I.T., BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO EXPAND THE WI-FI ON THE OUTSIDE BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE USING THE WI-FI CAPABILITY.

AND PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

WE ARE UP 10%. SO WE HAVE ALMOST 6,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE VISITING US ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA SITES.

AND WE ALSO GOT NEWS LAST WEEK AND CRYSTAL AND VERONICA APPLIED FOR A GRANT. AND WE NOTICED -- WE WERE NOTIFIED THAT WE ARE -- WE ARE CURRENTLY THE TOP NINE OUT OF 14. AND WE WILL BE NOTIFIED THE END OF JULY. IF WE DO RECEIVE THE GRANT, IT WILL BE ABOUT $10,000 AND FOR THE TEXAS READS GRANT.

AND WE WILL LET YOU KNOW JULY, AUGUST, IF WE DO MAKE THE CUT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S GREAT. >> I WILL BEGIN NOW BY GOING OVER OUR PERSONNEL FOR DEPARTMENT 6310.

FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. I COULDN'T DO THIS WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF THE JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS AND SAY THANK YOU TO DALE AND LISA. THEY WERE VERY HELPFUL AND I MET WITH THEM TO SPEAK ABOUT THE BUDGET AND WHERE WE ARE AT AND HOW I CAN BEST MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR DEPARTMENT.

THIS PROPOSAL IS VERY IMPORTANT THIS YEAR, BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS. THE FIRST THING THAT I WANT TO GO OVER IS OUR COMPUTER SPECIALIST.

AND THIS POSITION IS FOR DAVID GARCIA.

AND HE HAS BEEN WITH MY DEPARTMENT SINCE 2014.

AND ESKENAZI CURRENTLY AT A 22. AND I SPOKE TO JULY YESTERDAY AND THIS POSITION SHOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS A 25.

BY PUT DOWN 27. BUT 4548 IS THE PROPER CODING FOR THE MICROCOMPUTER SPECIALIST THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO BE SUBMITTED FOR NOR FISCAL YEAR. AND I THINK IT IS THE FOURTH TIME I BRING IT TO COMMISSIONERS COURT.

WHEN HE -- WHEN THE YOU I.T. DEPARTMENT RECLASSIFIED THEIR DEPARTMENTS. HE WAS IN THE I.T. AND THEY MOVED HIM OVER TO MINE AND HE DID NOT GET THE RAISE.

I AM STILL COMING.BACK EVERY YEAR -- HOPE THAT THIS SCHOOL YEAR WILL REGAIN THE SALARY BACK TO WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE, THE RATE THAT ANY COMPUTER SPECIALIST SHOULD BE GETTING.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THAT.

HE WAS IN I.T. >> HE TRANSFERRED BEFORE THEY

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GOT THE RAISE. >>JUDGE CANALES: AND HE IS DOING I.T. WORK EXCLUSIVELY. TO, TO ME, IS LIKE A VIOLATION OF OUR POLICY. THAT CAN'T BE RIGHT.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: MY QUESTION TO IDA.

IF HE WAS STILL UNDER I.T., HOW DID THAT HAPPEN.

>> HE CALLED ME TWO OR THREE WEEKS.

HE WAS ALWAYS IN THE I.T. BUT STATIONED AT THE LIBRARY.

THIS IS MIKE BIDDLE. HE ASKED ME -- IF I CAN'TED THE F TE IN MY PART. I SAID I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM

WITH IT. >> THE LAST I.T. PERSON.

I SEE IT COMING TO COMMISSIONERS COURT.

AND I WAS STUNNED. UP SAID IF I WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT I WOULD DO HIM AN INJUSTICE, I WOULD HAVE SAID NO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THIS HAS BEEN -- WHAT YEAR?

>> PROBABLY TV OR SIX YEARS AGO. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY.

SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO FOR US. AND I KNOW -- I KNOW SP HAS BEEN BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT STICKS OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB.

IT IS STICKING OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB TO ME.

>> I FEEL LIKE IT IS SOMETHING -- I WILL BE DILIGENT.

HE DESERVE IT IS ESPECIALLY NOW HE IS ALSO OVERSEEING THE LAW LIBRARY AND WE NEVER HAD AS MUCH TECHNOLOGY AS WE DO NOW.

HE HAS TO GO TO WISH SHOP. HE COMES TO LIBRARY.

WE HAVE ALL THE TECHNOLOGY, ALL THE DATABASES AND GIVE YOU THE DOCUMENTATION OF EVERYTHING HE IS DOING SINCE HE CAME ON BOARD.

THE LIST HAS EXPANDED. AND ALSO I HAVE TO SAY THAT WE ARE -- WE ARE ALSO DO DOING GRANICUS.

CRYSTAL AND HIM DO GRANICUS. THEY HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES ONCE, TWICE, THREE TEAMS AT THAT WEEK BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO UPDATE IT.

EVERYBODY THAT KNOWS THEM THEY ARE NOT WEBMASTERS.

YOU THIS THEY LEARNED. SHE, CRYSTAL, VERONICA AND DAVID. EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH GRANICUS. THEY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE PEOPLE FROM GRANICUS TO DO THE WEB SITE. THE SECOND POSITION.

VERONICA. YOUTH SERVICES.

CURRENTLY SHE IS YOUTH SERVICES. WHEN WE MOVED TO THE LIKE -- TO THE LAW LIBRARY, IMMOVED JANIE FROM THE KIDS LIBRARY AND BECAME THE LAW LIBRARY. AND VERONICA WAS THE YOUTH SERVICES LIBRARY. TWO SEMESTERS SHORT OF GETTING THE DEGREE AND BUMP HER DOWN FROM LIBRARIAN TO SPECIALIST.

SHE HAS A MASTER'S DEGREE NOW. SHE IS ACCREDITED AND HAS THE MASTER'S DEGREE TWO YEARS AGO. I WANT HER TO GO FROM WHAT THE ORIGINAL POSITION AT 26. AND CURRENTLY AT 20.

SO SHE HAS A MASTER'S DEGREE. AND THEN THE THIRD POSITION IS FOR THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH LIBRARIAN WHICH IS THE POSITION FOR THE HORACE CALDWELL, AND BISHOP BRANCH, THE LONDON, BUSINESS CAL AREA, THE COLONIAS. AND A POSITION NOT JUST FOR THE HORACE CALDWELL BEFORE AUGUST -- WE NEED ANOTHER LIBRARIAN.

MY CURRENT STAFF CAN'T DO THIS PROJECT AND HANDLE EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE SOUTHERN AREA. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I AM REALLY HOPING THIS POSITION COMES. AND I DID SPEAK TO SCOTT CROSS WHEN I SPOKE TO DALE. AND SCOTT CROSS SAID WILLING TO DO 30%. 30% FROM HIS BUDGET AND THE REST WOULD BE COUNTY. I KNOW DALE AND I WERE TALKING AND WE HAD A DISCUSSION AND COMMUNICATED BACK AND FORTH AND HE SEND ME AN E-MAIL AND FORWARDED IT TO JAIL.

AND PROBABLY WILL BE ON THE TABLE FOR THE COUNTY TO FIGURE OUT MY LIE BRAR CONDITION WHERE. CRESS TALL WAS ONE.

THEY WERE NONEXEMPT. I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO BE EX-EFRM POSITION. THEY ARE DOING THE SUPERVISORY AND THEY ARE DOING A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS THEM ASSIST ME AND A POSITION THAT CAN'T BE EXEMPT. I TALKED TO JULIE.

YOU BRING IT ONCE, YOU BRING THEM ALL.

ALL TO THE TABLE THAT FOR NOW, ALL OF MY LIBRARIANS AND MY I.T.

PERSON ALL BECOME EXEMPT. THE LAST ONE WAS FOR MY POSITION THAT I ALSO ASKED FOR A RAISE FROM A 32 TO A 37, WHICH IS FROM $73,000 TODAY 84,000. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I REALLY PRIMARY IS SOLELY FOR MY STAFF. ONE THING I ALWAYS SUGGESTED THAT I WANT MY STAFF TO GETS PAID.

AND I JUST MADE IT OUT OF PRINCIPAL TO BE RECOGNIZED THAT,

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YOU KNOW, WE ARE DOING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. BUT IT IS A PART OF THE JOB, YOU KNOW. WE GET NEW DEPARTMENTS.

WE GET MORE STAFF. WE GET MORE WORK.

SINCE COVID, MY STAFF HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF -- ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, AT THE -- AT BOTH LIBRARIES.

HERE AT THE LAW LIBRARY AND AT THE KIDS LIBRARY.

DOING A LOT OF ZOOM. AND RIGHT NOW THEY ARE HELP WITH WERE A. .

WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE DOING TO THE ARPA WHICH IS FOR THE MORTGAGE. THEY ARE DOING MORTGAGE, RENTALS. MORTGAGE, INSURANCE, TAXES AND UTILITIES. SOMETIMES MY STAFF HAS TO BE UP THERE WITH THE PATRONS FOR ONE, TWO, THREE HOURS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SUFFICIENTLY, YOU KNOW, KNOWING HOW TO DO COMPUTERS SO THEY HAVE GOT TO BE SITTING BY THEIR SIDE.

I THINK WE HAVE BEEN HELPING 25, 30, MAYBE 40 PEOPLE NOW IN THE PAST SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS. SO THAT IS A DIFFERENT TOPIC THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON. AND ANY QUESTIONS ON MY

POSITIONS? >>.

>> I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION ON THE POSITIONS -- AND IT IS NOT REALLY BUDGET WORKSHOP RELATED BUT THINKING AND LOOKING AT THIS. DO WE -- DO WE REFER TO OURSELVES AS THE COUNTY LIBRARY SYSTEM? BECAUSE IT IS NOT REALLY A COUNTY LIBRARY.

IT IS NOT KITCH ANYMORE. >> PUBLIC LIBRARIES.

>> IT DOESN'T SHOW US AS THE DEPARTMENT NAME.

I WAS ASKING TO ASK YOU HOW THAT POSITION WAS GOING.

AND I AM GLAD TO HEAR THAT -- >> I AM HOPE THAT EVERYTHING TURNS OUT GOOD BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING -- THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO MENTION AS WELL. WE HAVE BEEN MEET WITH IDAY, BELINDA, SCOTT CROSS AND DARYL FROM I.T. AND MICHAEL ROBINSON.

AND THEY HAVE BEEN VERY FRIENDLY HELP US GET EVERYTHING WE NEED TO GET START IN AUGUST. WE ARE DOING OUR BEST.

MY STAFF HAVE EVERYTHING READY. THEY HAVE THE CURRICULUM READY

TO GO. >> COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: I APPRECIATE. I KNOW ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE. YOUR SOCIAL DISTANCING PRESENCE.

THAT IS THE WAY I KEEP UPDATING ONE OF THE BEST COUNTIES TO UPDATE ON EVENTS AND AT LEAST WE ARE AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON.

I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET MORE DEPARTMENTS TO KIND OF FOLLOW Y'ALL'S LEAD ON THAT AM QUESTION THAT I DON'T SEE ON THIS ITEM.

YOU HAVE A IS HE CARD GUARD AT THE LIBRARY.

THAT SECURITY GUARD IS NOT AN ARMED LIBRARY.

UP KNOW THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN WHATEVER COMMISSION AND NONCOMMISSION AND MAY NOT BE FEASIBLE TO ADD A LAW ENFORCEMENT MEMBER THERE, BUT IF WE CAN AT LEAST PAY THE FEW DOLLARS MORE AN HOUR THAT IT IS AND INCLUDE THAT INTO OUR BUDGET -- FOR ME THAT IS A VERY SOFT TARGET AREA.

AND THANKFULLY WE HAVE CITY POLICE AND CONSTABLE OFFICES RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM Y'ALL LITERALLY, BUT STILL, THAT ONE ARMED GUARD WOULD BE NICE. A SENSE OF COMFORT ESPECIALLY AS MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO AND LOOK AND USE THAT INTO THE SUMMER. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WILL BE WILLING TO FINANCE NOW, JUDGE, OUT OF MY OWN BUDGET FOR THE LIBRARY, BECAUSE IS SUCH A HEAVILY TRAFFICKED AREA AND SUCH AN UNIQUE POSITION BEING THERE AT THE CROSSROADS, I THINK IT GETS THAT VOLUME OF PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT.

I JUST -- I WOULD BE WILLING TO COVER THAT UNTIL THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR OUT OF MY BUDGET, WHATEVER DIFFERENCE IT IS, RIGHT. THE DOLLAR AMOUNT A DIFFERENCE.

TO PUT THAT IN THE ASK FOR THE NEW SCHOOL YEAR.

>> FISCAL YEAR. >> I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT WITH EVERYTHING WE HAVE THAT HAPPENED.

>> WE DO HAVE ONE AND SAVED MAJORITY OF THE HOURS BECAUSE WE ARE THE BUSIEST, 75 -- THE FIRST SAY OF SUMMER READING.

WE HAD OVER 100 PEOPLE. THEY WANTED TO TAKE PICTURES WITH OUR RAINBOW FISH AND HE K5I78 IN LATE AND CHANGED THE HOURS. WE HAD PEOPLE LINED UP 9:00 PAUSE THEY WANTED TO COME INTO OUR SUMMER READING PROGRAM.

SO WE GET A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE SUMMER ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY KNOW WE HAVE BIGGER EVENTS AND THIS WOULD REALLY HELP.

WE HAVE A SECURITY GUARD RIGHT NOW AND I REALLY THINK THAT WILL

WORK. >> I WOULD LIKE TO WORK ON THAT

IMMEDIATELY. >> THANK YOU

>>I ASSUME THAT TERESA IS WRITING THAT DOWN.

IF THERE IS ACTION THAT THE COURT HAS TO TAKE AUTHORIZED AT

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OUR NEXT MEETING. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PERSON --

CONTACT THE SECURITY COMPANY --. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS WHAT HE

WAS GOING TO SAY. >> TO CHANGE -- WHAT IS THE NEXT

MEETING, THE --. >>JUDGE CANALES: 22 ND.

>> 22 ND OR 23RD. ARMED GUARD.

YOU WORK OUT ON THIS NOW. AND THE DIFFERENCE TO MAKE UP WITH IT RATHER THAN WAIT TWO WEEKS.

TWO WEEKS IS WAITING JUST TOO MUCH.

>> MICHAEL ROBINSON IS THE ONE THAT WORKS ON THE CONTRACT AND WE CAN COMBHUN KATE WITH HIM AS WELL.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >>.

>> I GUESS I CAN MOVE ON TO MY LINE ITEM BUDGET.

. >> LINE ITEM BUDGET FOR 5310.

WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS. I AM WITH THE COUNTY FOR 15 YEARS AND NEVER RECEIVED A DEPARTMENT ALLOWANCE FOR VEHICLE. I HOPE THIS YEAR I CAN RECEIVE THE ALLOWANCE FOR -- I SPOKE TO DALE AND HE TOLD ME HE WOULD HAVE KNOWN I WASN'T GETTING IT HE COULD HAVE WORKED WITH ME.

BUT I AM PUTTING IT IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR TO GET A DEPARTMENT HEAD ALLOWANCE, DEPARTMENT CAR ALLOWANCE.

I DID ASK -- WORK WITH TERESA AND THE J URGE FOR $5,000 FOR HORACE CALDWELL PIER, STEM TECHNOLOGY AND ARTS AND CRAFTS.

WORKING TOGETHER TO SEE IF WE CAN DO THAT THIS FISCAL YEAR AND NOT HAVE TO WEIGHT UNTIL SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER.

WE ARE STILL WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE JUDGE AND TERESA TO SEE IF WE ARE ABLE TO GET THAT. AND HE MAY BE ABLE TO REMOVE THAT FROM MY BUDGET. I ASKED FOR GAS AND MAINTENANCE FOR THE LEASE VEHICLE. WE WILL HAVE TRAVELING FROM THE HORACE CALDWELL PIERND WE NEED TO TRAVEL AROUND BISHOP.

AND WILL BE HELPFUL TO HAVE A STAFF VEHICLE.

SCOTT CROSS SAID HE WOULD GET THREE VEHICLES.

HE PROMISED IF HE GOT ONE FIRST, HE WOULD GIVE ME ONE OF HIS.

AND VICE VERSA. WE ARE WORK WITH SCOTT FOR THAT.

FOR MY BUILDING AND GROUNDS, I DID ASK FOR AN ADDITIONAL $10,000 FOR BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS.

I HAVE OPINION HAVING PROBLEMS WITH SUBMITTING WORK ORDERS AND GETTING THESE REQUESTS DONE FOR MY DEPARTMENT.

IN THE THREE TO FIVE YEARS SINCE I MOVED TO THE NEW BUILDING, 15 YEARS AGO, WE DID ORDER RESEPTEMBER TABLE, TRASH CANS FOR THE EXTERIOR GROUNDS AND MY STAFF WAS HAVING A PROBLEM WHEN KICK IT OUT THERE WITH PAMPERS AND STUFF.

AT LEAST NOW WE HAVE THOSE RESEPTEMBER TABLES WE HAD OUTSIDE AND WE ORDERED THE VERY GOOD ONES FOR EXTERIOR, THE OUTSIDE GROUND. THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED.

THEY ARE VERY EXPENSIVE $1500 TO 200 EACH AND OTHER ITEMS IN THE BUILDING THAT WE DID NOT GET IT. I COMMUNICATED RON PIMENTAL.

I ASKED FOR AN ADDITIONAL $10,000 AND I DID COMMUNICATE WITH GERALD AND I LET HIM KNOW THAT OUR AUTOMATION.

OUR AUTOMATION IS GETTING AN UPGRADE $4999.

SO WE WILL NOW BE ON THE CLOUD FOR SERVICES.

AND I DID ATTACH THE LITTLE ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT SAYS WHAT IT IS FOR. AND DARYL -- DARYL SAID IT WAS OKAY TO GO AHEAD AND PUT IT THROUGH AND IT IS A SCNAP SOLE SOURCE ITEM FOR THE 5300. FOR 5311.

WE WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR GRANICUS HOSTING FEES.

FOR THE LEASE VEHICLE, ABOUT $14,400.

IN 5410. ALSO FOR MILEAGE, I DID ASK FOR ADDITIONAL $500 JUST IN CASE WE DO NOT GET A VEHICLE AND WE NEED ONE TO BE TRAVELING TO THE HORACE CALDWELL PIER AND BEYOND FOR AN ADDITIONAL $500. AND FOR CAPITAL OUTLAY.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE STRUGGLING AT THE PRESENT TIME WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED COMPUTER FOR OUR PATRONS.

WE GOT THEM WHEN MY STAFF LAURA APPLIED THREE YEARS FOR $225,000. IN THOSE YEARS, WE RECEIVED 35 TO 40 COMPUTERS PLUS [L]IPADS AND A LOT OF EQUIPMENT AND INCLUDING SOFTWARE. THOSE WERE ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE

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YEARS AGO. TIME TO GET THE COMPUTERS REMOVED. THEY ARE SLOWING DOWN.

THE PATRON ARE COMPLAINING. WE TELL THEM, I AM SORRY, WE ARE PUTTING IT IN OUR BUDGET.I KNOW PUT A BIG NUMBER OUT THERE 35,000 COMPUTERS. BUT IF DIRT CAN WORK WITH US AND GET US ONLY WHAT WE NEED. NOTHING HAS TO BE SAVED ON THERE. WE HAVE ALL THIS AUTOMATION IN THE COMPUTERS THAT THE PATRON CANNOT SAVE ANYTHING ON THE COMPUTERS. IF THEY WANT TO TYPE SOMETHING AND WORK ON WORK FORCE. THEY HAVE TO SAVE IT TO A THUMB DRIVE AND SEND IT TO THEIR E-MAIL.

IT IS A BASIC COMPUTER. WE NEED SOME FOR OUR LIBRARY AND FOR BISHOP. IT IS 35 COMPUTERS WE WILL BE NEEDING FOR CAPITAL. FOR NONCAPITAL ITEMS. FOR LIBRARY NEEDS, CHILDREN TABLES AN SHARES.

BOOK SHELVES FOR THE LIBRARY. BECAUSE THEY LIKE TO DISPLAY THE CHILDREN'S BOOK. SO WE WANT TO WORK ON THAT.

AND THE IFKITCH LIBRARY FOR DISPLAYING BOOKS AS WELL.

I DIDN'T PUT IT ON MY LIST, BUT WE NEED FURNITURE FOR OUR MULTIPURPOSE ROOM. I FURTHER IT IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AND I FORGOT IT FOR THIS YEAR.

THE MULTI PURPOSE ROOM HAS EXCEEDED THE LIFE OF THE FURNITURE IN THERE AND THE TABLES ARE GETTING VERY WOBBLY AND THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED. THAT IS ALL FOR MY OFFICE FOR

6310. >> SORRY, I STEPPED OUT WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE POWER WASHING.

>> OH, YES, SIR. .

>> I MEAN THAT --. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S NORMAL.

>> OKAY. I WILL HELP YOU.

I HAVE DONE SOME -- SOME RESTRIPING THE PARKING LOT.

MADE IT LOOK NICE. AND ORDERLY.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WE CAN COVER QUICK RATHER THAN GO THROUGH EVEN PUBLIC WORKS IF THEY ARE NOT AVAILABLE AND WE KNOW THEY ARE LIMITED SO SOMEWHERE THAT WE CAN GET IN A REASONABLE PRICE TO COME IN AND OUT QUICKLY.

I WILL WORK WITH YOU ON THAT. AND TERESA.

>> MY STAFF BOUGHT HIM A SMALL ONE TO CLEAN THE EXTERIOR OF THE LOWER PARTS, BUT IT IS THE HIGHER PART, LIKE IN THE -- IN THE EXTERIOR AND THE NORTH WALL -- THE NORTH WALL, GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP. THEY HAVE TO HIRE TO BE GO BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GET ON SKAF HOLDING AND SOME -- WHAT I NEED TO DO BEFORE, ROTATE IT EVERY TWO YEARS.

THE NORTH AND SOUTH AND THE NORTH AND EAST AND THE NORTH AND SOUTH THE WEST DAY AND HAVEN'T BEEN DONE.

I TALK TO THE JUDGE, I TELL HER THE SAME THING.

I WOULD LIKE TO ROTATE. I DON'T ASK FOR EVERYTHING ONE YEAR IN A ROW AND WE ALWAYS ROTATE.

WE DIDN'T GET IT SO I DECIDED TO PUT IT ON THE BUDGET.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT PUBLIC WORKS WILL

POWER WASH. >> WE HEARD THERE WAS A PO FLOATING, BUT NOBODY HAS DONE ANYTHING LEFT.

NO ONE HAS CONTACTED US. I WILL FIND OUT THIS WEEK BECAUSE TRIED TO CONTACT THE PUBLIC WORKS.

>> REACH OUT TO THEM AND INCLUDE ME AND PRISCILLA.

>>JUDGE CANALES: DOCUMENT IT ALL.

E-MAIL IT. >> WE DO, I WILL SEND YOU --.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NO PO REQUESTED?

>> SPIF NOT SEEN ONE. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: JUST ASKING. YOU WOULD BE THE ONE TO KNOW.

OKAY. ALWAYS GO TO TERESA.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ON THE STEM TECHNOLOGY, TERESA -- ON THE STEM TECHNOLOGY. I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME BUT THERE WAS A REQUEST -- I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT.

AND YOU DID THINK THAT I DID HAVE THE FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO

MAKE THAT HAPPEN. >> BUT NOT IN THE COS, RIGHT?

>> SHE SAID IT WAS CRAFTS -- NOT REALLY CAPITAL.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I THOUGHT IT WAS TECHNOLOGY.

>> SOME OF IT -- ABOUT $4500 FOR STEM AND $500 FOR ARTS AND

CRAFTS. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST THE STEM PIECE OF IT. I DON'T KNOW, JUST LOOK INTO IT.

WE WILL VERIFY IT. NOT FOR THE ARTS AND CRAFTS, BUT FOR THE ACTUAL TECHNOLOGY PIECE OF IT.

>> ANYTHING ELSE ON 6310, JUDGE? >>JUDGE CANALES: I WANT TO KNOW FROM THE AUDITOR, DO ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE A CAR

LOAN? >> NOT 100% SURE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: MAYBE MAKE A QUICK NOTE.

>> MAYBE I WILL GET WITH LISA AND DALE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

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>> YES, MA'AM. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT BUDGET PIECE THIS HA LINE ITEM.

>> NOT 6310. BUT 0150.

0150, JURNG, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO REPRESENT. CYNTHIA AND AMY HAVE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB UP THERE. THEY HAVE DOING A LOT OF GREAT WORK AND EXPANDING THEIR COLLECTION AND WORK WITH THE NEW ATTORNEYS AND A LOT OF PATRON ARE COMING IN.

SHE GAVE ME SOME DOCUMENTATION OF HOW MANY VIRTUAL -- HOW MANY VISITORS THEY HAD, CONFERENCE ROOM ATTENDANTS, WES LAW, CONNECTIONS, LAW FORMS. IF CRYSTAL WANTS TO PASS OUT A DOCUMENT THAT JEAN GAVE US YESTERDAY.

HOW MANY PEOPLE OUTREACH AND ZOOM THEY DID.

THEY WERE THE ONE THAT'S DID A LOT OF ZOOMS DURING THE

PANDEMIC. >>JUDGE CANALES: FOR EVICTIONS.

>> FOR EVICTIONS. YES, MA'AM, THAT KEPT THEM BUSY AND COMPUTER USE. THEY DO A LOT OF COMPUTER USE.

THEY HELP DURING THE COLLECTION, THE GENERAL.

THIS IS JUST A LITTLE INFORMATIVE SO YOU CAN TAKE A PEEK OF IT. REGARDING THE STAFFING, THE ONLY ISSUES I HAD IS THAT ALSO I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO STAY -- TO BE FROM NONEXEMPT TO EXEMPT FOR THE LIBRARIAN AND TECHNICAL SERVICES. NO MONETARY SERVICES.

JUST THE STATUS OF EXEMPT. AND THEN THERE WERE NO CHANGES IN MONETARY FOR ANYTHING IN THE DEPARTMENT.

AND I AM WORK WITH DALE, BECAUSE HE DID INFORM ME -- AND SO DID LISA -- THAT THERE HAS BEEN NO GROWTH IN THE FUND BALANCE FOR THE LAW LIBRARY AT ALL. WE ARE IN THE RED.

HE HAS ASKED ME TO CUT BACK ON SOME OF MY BUDGET FOR -- FOR BOOKS OR AUTOMATION OR SOMEWHERE IN THE DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE THERE IS NOT BEEN ANY MONEY. YOU KNOW, DUE TO THE COVID, PANDEMIC. THE COLLECTION FOR PEOPLE F

FILING. >>JUDGE CANALES: SO, AGAIN, BUDGET WORKSHOP REVEAL ITSELF. WE NEED TO MAKE NOTE OF THIS.

IF IT IS COVID-19-RELATED BUDGET THAT WAS USED IN THE LAW LIBRARY, FOR EXAMPLE, TO ASSIST IN THE EVICTIONS, WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO RECOVER THAT. I AM NOT SURE I GUESS I NEED TO LOOK WHAT HE MEANS BY CUTTING AUTOMATION.

CAN YOU MAKE A CORRELATION OF ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE BEEN -- THAT YOU WOULD BE NEEDING AND THE PANDEMIC?

>> FOR RIGHT NOW, I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS WHAT I TOLD HIM.

WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR BUDGET. SO WE CAN CUT BACK ON ORDERING SOME OF THE LAW BOOKS AND KEEP THE AUTOMATION PART.

IF THE ATTORNEYS WANT TO GO IN AND REVIEW, THEY CAN GO ONLINE.

EVERYTHING IS ONLINE AND WE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY NOW.

WE ARE TRYING TO SPEAK TO THE THOMPSON REUTERS AND ASKING THEM IF WE CAN RENEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT.

THEY SAID YES, THEY COULD. AND TELL THEM WHAT THE BUDGET WILL BE. AND WE ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.

I NEED TO KEEP MY -- BOTH STAFF. I DON'T WANT TO GET RID OF MY STAFF. THEY BOTH NEED TO STAY.

AND I CAN WORK ON MY BUDGET WITH OUR BOOKS -- THE ONLY TWO ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH OF. BOOKS OR AUTOMATION.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU WITH OUR POPULATION, I DON'T SEE HOW ONLINE HELPS A CITIZEN OR RESIDENT COMING TO THE LAW LIBRARY TO, YOU KNOW, TO GET LEGAL HELP AND THEY NEED TO READ.

I DON'T -- I JUST DISAGREE WITH THAT.

YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN THINKING FOR A WHILE THAT WE NEED TO FIND A GOOD, RELIABLE SOURCE FOR BOOKS BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL WANT TO MOVE ONLINE. I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT.

IF YOU HAVE CHO CHOOSE, YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE ONLINE.

AND MAYBE YOU CAN SEPARATE IT OUT AND SEE WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. AND YOU GUYS ARE YOUR OWN BEST SOURCE OF GRANTS. BUT MAYBE BY WORK WITH THE COASTAL BENLDZ COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OR -- COASTAL BEND COMMUNITY. THE BAR ASSOCIATION.

THEY CAN ASK FOR A VOLUNTARY CAMPAIGN FOR THAT.

I DO MEAN THAT ONLINE AND DIGITAL IS WHERE IT IS GOING.

SO I THINK YOU HAVE TO MAKE HARD CHOICES.

I WOULD CERTAINLY CHOOSE DIGITAL.

BUT IT HAS GOT TO BE DIGITAL-FRIENDLY, RIGHT.

WHICH IS WHY YOUR STAFF IS SO CRITICAL UP THERE.

>> YES, MA'AM. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT DO YOU THINK IT WILL SAVE IF YOU JUST DO ONLINE.

WOULD IT GET YOU BACK IN THE BLACK?

>> YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: MAYBE THAT IS

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WHAT WE DO FOR THE YEAR. >> THE BOOK BUDGET IS $60,000.

IF WE CUT IT BY -- IF WE CUT IT FROM $70,000 TO ABOUT -- AT LEAST -- CUT IT 60%, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO MEET WHAT DALE WANTS TO BE IN THE BUDGET. CUT AND KEEP MAYBE $25,000 OR $30,000 AND PUT BACK THE REST AND JUST KEEP THE AUTOMATION, WE

SHOULD BE OKAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT WOULD YOU DO EVENTUALLY, EITHER CATCH UP -- BECAUSE IF THE BOOKS ARE NOT -- YOU WOULD TRY TO CATCH UP IN ANOTHER YEAR.

>> YES. AFTER WE GET BACK TO IT.

THOSE BOOKS -- SOMETIMES THEY COME IN -- BY THE TIME THEY COME IN THE NEW ONE ARE COMING IN TWO, THREE, FOUR WEEKS LATER.

JUST A REVOLVING DOOR. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK THAT IS

A GOOD PLAN, IDA.. >>JUDGE CANALES: DON'T GET ME WRONG THAT IT NEVER HAS BEEN IN THE BLACK.

NOT LIKE IT IS NEW. BUT IT GOES A LONG WAY OF CONTINUING TO MAKE THE LAW LIBRARY.

>> I KNOW I CAME ON BOARD WHEN THE AUDITOR TOLD ME YOU NEED TO RAISE THE FEES. IMMEDIATELY WHAT WE HAVE TO TO DO TRY -- BUT THEN WE HAD COVID WITHIN A YEAR.

NOTHING HAS GONE OUR WAY FOR THE PAST TWO, THREE YEARS.

I GOT VERY DILIGENT STAFF THAT ARE WORKING REALLY HARD -- THEY HAVE ATTORNEYS COMING IN. A LOT OF PATRONSES.

THEY ARE ASSISTING. DOING WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO TO MAKE IT WORK. WE ARE TRYING.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. >> JUDGE, ON THE MOST DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE A CAR ALLOWANCE OR ACCESS TO A COUNTY VEHICLE HAVE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: GOT IT. AND YOU DON'T HAVE EITHER.

I AM PREACHING TO THE EQUITY. EVERYBODY AT LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. SOMETHING TO STAR.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

.. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, IDA.

THE NEXT ONE AT 10:45. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THEM HERE BY 10:30. ALSO

. >> THANK YOU.

I COULDN'T GET HERE SOONER WHEN YOU WERE READY FOR ME.

I AM IN TRIAL WITH 319 AND JUDGE WAS KIND ENOUGH TO BREAK EARLY FOR THE DAY SO I CAN BE HERE. AND PRESENT BUDGET SO WHAT YOU WILL SEE THAT YEAR IN 3520, THAT THEY WERE NOT -- WE WERE NOT -- I HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM TOMORROW FOR COMMISSIONERS COURT RELATED TO SOME OF THE ISSUES WE RAISES IN THE BUDGET THAT CHANGES OUR PERSONNEL REQUEST FORM FOR 3520; HOWEVER, FOR PURPOSES OF TODAY, I AM GOING TO PRESENT THE BUDGET AS SUBMITTED BAUNG I THINK THAT IS THE MOST PRUDENT THING TO DO. AND IF THE COURT TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION ANYTHING DISCUSSED TOMORROW, WE CAN MAKE THOSE CHANGES, BUT FOR NOW, WE HAVE AND ARE REQUESTING THAT WE HAVE TWO APPELLATE DIVISION ATTORNEYS.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THEIR STEPS, YOU HAVE ONE THAT IS A SEVEN, AND ONE THAT IS A TWO. THEY HAVE NEVER GOTTEN A STEP INCREASE OR GROUP INCREASE DESPITE THE FACT THAT ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN HERE 20 YEARS. THEY HAVE ALWAYS REMAINED AN ATTORNEY ONE. SO I AM REQUESTING THAT THEY BE MOVED TO APPELLATE DIVISION TWO ATTORNEYS IN ORDER TO INCREASE AND GIVE THEM THE DUE FOR ALL THE EXPERIENCE THIS THEY HAVE AND THAT WILL BE THE ADOLFO AGEO AND BRUCE ANDERSON.

THE REMAINDER IS GEARED TOWARD THE COVID BACKLOG.

PERSONNEL REQUESTS THAT ARE DIRECTLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE BACKLOG OF CASES DUE TO COVID. IF THAT TRIGGERS ANYTHING, THEN THAT'S WHY I AM MENTION IT TWICE, OKAY.

FIRST OF ALL, I AM REQUESTING A CHILD PROSECUTOR.

WE HAVE TWO THAT ARE COVERING EIGHT DISTRICTS COURTS.

WHAT YOU SEE ON THE JAIL ROSTER IS SOME OF THE HIGHEST IN JAILS ARE GOING TO BE CHILD CASES WHAT YOU ALSO SEE THAT THE DISTRICT COURT SET OUT POST COVID ARE THAT CHILD CASES WILL BE GIVEN THE PRIORITY OF CASES TO BE TRIED.

SO NOW THEY ARE THE PRIORITY ON TWO FOLD ONE, IF THEY ARE IN

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JAIL. AND TWO, WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE IN JAIL IF THEY ARE CHILD UNIT CASES, THEN KRISTI AND LIZ ARE GETTING PUSHED TO TRIAL. THEY WILL HAVE TRIAL SETTING FOR FOUR DIFFERENT COURTS ALL FOR THE SAME WEEK.

OBVIOUSLY WE ONLY HAVE TWO AND THEY CAN ONLY TRY TWO CASES AND TWO MORE GET RESET. THAT WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE UP SEATS IN THE JAIL OR CONTINUE TO DENY THE CHILD VICTIMS THEIR JUSTICE. AND AGAIN EVEN THE SUPREME COURT OF TEXAS SAY THAT IS THE PRI PRIORITY. WE CREATE A FELONY # POSITION A WHILE BACK FOR VIOLENT CRIME AND GANG PROSECUTOR POSITION IN THAT WE MADE IT A FELONY 6 BECAUSE OF OUR EXPERTISE.

OUR CHILD PROSECUTORS WHICH ARE TWO FEMALES BE GIVEN THE SAME FELONY 6 THIS OUR OTHER SPECIALIZED GANG PROSECUTORS HAVE. THEY ARE BOTH SPECIALIZED UNITS AND REQUIRE ADDITIONAL DILIGENCE.

AND LONGEST EXPERIENCE AND COOPERATION.

I AM REQUESTING THAT OUR CHILD UNIT PROSECUTOR ARE A FIVE AND MOVE THEM UP ONE GROUP TO A SIX. WITNESS SUPERVISORS.

WE HAVE TWO LADY THAT ARE WITNESS COORDINATORS.

RIGHT NOW IN TRIAL, MY WITNESS COORDINATOR IS HELPING ME TO ENSURE THAT MY WITNESS ROOM ALWAYS HAS WITNESSES WHEN THE JUDGE SAYS STATE, CALL YOUR NEXT WITNESS, I AM NOT SAYING I DON'T HAVE ONE BACK IN THE OLD DAYS, THE JUDGE'S RESPONSE AT LEAST YOU REST. AT LEAST NOW WE HAVE JUDGES THAT ARE A LITTLE MORE FOR GIVING BUT A LOT OF WORK.

AND WITH THE NUMBER OF CASE THAT ARE GOING TO TRIAL NOW AND THE NUMBER OF CASE THAT ARE HAVING TO BE PREPARED BECAUSE OF THE COVID BACKLOG, WE NEED A WITNESS SUPERVISOR TO MAKE SURE THAT I GOT ANOTHER MURDER, ATTEMPTED CAPITAL COMING UP.

I KNOW WE HAVE A CHILD UNIT GOING.

MIKE GORDON IS FIX TO GO INTO MURDERS.

TWO WITNESS COORDINATORS CANNOT HANDLE AND WE ARE NOT READY IS NOT SUFFICING. WE HAVE TO MOVE THESE IN-JAIL CASES. IF YOU LOOK, WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT. WE EITHER PLED OUT OR PROSECUTED ALL VIOLENT OFFENDERS TAKING UP ROOM IN JAIL.

I FINISHED THE LAST OF THE LONDON MURDER DEFENDANTS IN FOR 600 DAYS. AND THEY ARE NOW ON THEIR WAY TO TDC. WE ARE MOVING AND WORKING.

AND WE NEED A WITNESS SUPERVISOR AND WE NEED ANOTHER FELONY CHIEF. AND THIS TIES BACK TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE 11 PROSECUTORS DOWN RIGHT NOW.

WE ARE S&P MISSING 11 PROSECUTORS.

YOU WANTS TO TALK OF OVERLOADING THE ONES THAT WE HAVE AND OUR STAFF, OUR SUPPORT STAFF. IT IS INCREDIBLE AND OBVIOUSLY WE LOSE SOME OF THE MOST EXPERIENCED FIRST.

AND WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE ATTORNEYS THAT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE AND A FELONY POSITION TEACHES AND HELPS INSTRUCTS THE YOUNGER PROSECUTORS, BECAUSE A I SAID WITH THE COVID BACKLOG OF CASES THEY ARE GETTING PUSHED TO HANDLE HEARINGS THAT -- IT IS TRIAL BY FIRE WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN OUR WAY.

MARK DIDN'T WANT THAT FOR OUR ATTORNEYS.

WE NEVER DID. WE ALWAYS HOPED WE COULD HAVE MORE SEASONED PROSECUTORS TO SIT WITH OUR YOUNGERS AS THEY MOVE INTO TRIAL EXPERIENCE, BUT NOW, THEY ARE JUST GETTING THROWN IN THE FIRE BECAUSE NOT ENOUGH OF US TO GO AROUND.

THERE JUST ISN'T. SO WHAT YOU SEE AT THE BOMB TOMORROW IS THE NUMBER 314,923.06.

BUT, AGAIN, I AM ASKING FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THIS AS NECESSARY TESTIMONY COVID POSITIONS IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH THE BACKLOG AND GIVE MORE EFFICIENT JUSTICE TO BOTH THE VICTIMS AND TAXPAYERS OF THIS COMMUNITY. I ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER IT FOR ANY ALTERNATIVE FUNDING THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE AS AS WELL.

WILDFIRE REGARD TO 1328 WHICH IS OUR CHAPTER 59 ACCOUNT THAT IS SELF-FUNDED. WE ARE ASKING FOR ASSET FORFEITURE ATTORNEY CURRENTLY AT THREE TO BE MOVED TO A FIVE AND

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A DIFFERENT HEN SHALL OF BY OF 925.36 3W6.

HE HAS DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB AND AIM GRATEFUL FOR THE OFFICE THAT'S WORK WITH HIM. HE IS CLOSING OUT CASES LEFT AND RIGHT. THE PAST SIX -- 300,000.

TO MOVE THE CASES BEING DILIGENT WITH SERVICE.

AND IN ADDITION, WE HAVE ASSIGNED HIM TO HANDLE ALL OF THE OPEN RECORD REQUESTS IN FOYA AND PIA ASKS THAT COME IN FROM THE PUBLIC. THAT WAS JORDY SHIMELL'S JOB AND WE TAGGED THAT ON TO JA JASON SUPLY.

AND ADDITION ALE DUTIES OUTSIDE OF THE ASSET FORFEITURE THAT WARRANT THE PAY INCREASE. AND THIS IS A SELF-FUNDED POSITION. OTHER THAN THOSE LIMITED PERSONNEL REQUEST, THE REMAINDER IS ASSOCIATE WITH BOTH OBTAINING THE GOALS -- I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST DID A BUDGET PRESENTATION, JUDGE CANALES TALKED A LOT OF SETTING GOALS FOR YOUR OFFICE AND WORKING TOWARD THOSE GOALS, ACHIEVING THOSE GOALS AND ACHIEVING PRODUCTIVITY. THAT SHOWS 23406789 WHAT WE ARE ACCOMPLISHING. WE HAVE ACHIEVED SO MANY OF THE GOALS WE HAVE SET OUT FOR OUR OFFICE.

AND THE PRIMARY ONES WERE AT 89% IN CGIS COMPLIANCE BUT OUR OFFICE TAKES A LOT OF HITS WITH THE.PUBLIC AND MEDIA TO SUBMIT TO THE CGIS REQUIREMENT. PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BIGGER PURPOSE. WE FEEL BAD, WE CAN'T STOP WHAT THEY ARE DOING. CLEARING CASES AND CLEARING OUT BACKLOG THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR OUR PART.

BUT IN THAT REGARD, WE ARE ASKING FOR SOME ASSISTANCE IN ACHIEVING ADDITIONAL GOALS. SO WE ARE ASKING PLEASE, PLEASE HELP GET 9 VEHICLES THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR NOW FOR THREE OR FOUR YEARS. WE NEED THESE VEHICLES.

WE ARE TRANSPORTING WITNESSINGS AND SERVING ANSWERS.

>>. FOR MY TRIAL ALONE I SEPTEMBER THE INVESTIGATORS OUT TO FOUR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS TO FIND WITNESS THAT'S I AM NEEDING. AND THEY ARE STILL IN THE SAME VEHICLES THAT WE WERE IN BEFORE WITH THE SAME ISSUES AND THE SAME MONEY GUZZLING PROBLEMS. AND WE KEEP GETTING -- OH, YOU WILL GET SOME. YOU WILL GET SOME, YOU WILL GET SOME. I THINK EVERY SINGLE DAY MY INVESTIGATORS CAME AND WERE LIKE, THERE IS A TRUCK OUT FRONT. IT IS BEAUTIFUL.

CAN ONE OF US USE IT? I THINK IT WAS --

>>JUDGE CANALES: THE ANSWER IS, NO.

>> RIGHT. >>JUDGE CANALES: TO STOP YOU RIGHT HERE. BECAUSE IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.

AND WE CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION, BUT WE DO NOT CONTROL THE SUPPLY CHAIN ON THOSE VEHICLES.

AS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THE COURT ALREADY ADOPTED THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SPEND ON MAINTENANCE AND SOME OF THE CHRONIC CONDITIONS THAT COME WITH THE OWNERSHIP OF OLD VEHICLES. WE ENTER INTO THAT ENTERPRISE LEASE. WE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT. BUT IT IS NOT A MATTER OF THE VEHICLES NOT COMING TO YOU. YOU ARE THE LEST.

I CANNOT EXPLAIN WHY IT TAKES SO LONG TO GET THE VEHICLE.

BUT TRUST ME TO DO ANYTHING ELSE WOULD BE TO START THE PROCESS OVER AGAIN WITH A NEW COMPANY OR, YOU KNOW, GO AND BUY A VEHICLE WITH I SUPPOSE MIGHT BE APPEAR SOLUTION, BUT THEN YOU WOULD BE DOUBLING THE INVESTMENT THAT WE ALREADY MADE THAT I DON'T THINK SERVES YOUR PURPOSE, BUT WE HAVE TO DIFFERENTIATE WE ARE ON YOUR SIDE ON THIS. WE ALREADY MADE THE APPROPRIATIONS, AND EVERY TIME IT COMES UP IN COURT, I GET A TEXT. AND POP IN HERE IN TWO MINUTES AND I WILL READ IT TO YOU THIS TIME.

IT WILL SAY, THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHEN WE HAVE TOLD THEM THE TIMELINE IS, AROUND THAT TIMELINE WILL BE HONORED.

IF IT IS NOT, THEN COME BACK TO ME', PAUSE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE WILL JUST NEED TO APPROPRIATE IT, BUT YOUR OFFICE AND EVERYBODY'S OFFICE THAT IS SLATED FOR THOSE VEHICLES, IT HAS BEEN TOLD TO US TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND WE CAN VERIFY THIS THAT YOU WILL GET THOSE VEHICLES.

AS YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE WORLD IS SUFFERING FROM CAR SHORTAGES. AND IT JUST DOESN'T DO ANY GOOD TO TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN AND AGAIN BECAUSE WE CAN'T MAKE IT WORK

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ANY FASTER, BUT I PROMISE YOU THAT EVERY TIME IT GETS MENTIONED, A PHONE CALL COMES WITH A LITTLE BIT OF EPPS EDGE ON IT THAT SAYS WHAT CAN WE TO DO MOVE THIS FASTER..

IN THAT VAIN I ASKED FOR A CALL -- NOT A CALL BUT FACE-TO-FACE MEETING WITH ENTERPRISE TO HELP UPDATE THESE TIMELINES ON A MORE UPDATED BASIS. I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE INFORMATION TO GIVE HER ON THAT? BECAUSE I PROMISE YOU, WE ARE

WORKING WITH YOU ON THESE CARS. >> WE KNOW.

WE WORKED WITH MARIO. AND OUR DATE KEEPS GETTING PUSHED BACK. WE UNDERSTAND THERE IS A CAR SHORTAGE. FOR MY PURPOSES FOR BUDGET, IT JUST MEANS THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE SPENDING IN MAINTENANCE AND CAR REPAIRS. IT WILL BE PART OF IT UNTIL WE GET THOSE CARS. FOR OUR PURPOSES, WE ARE ACCOUNTING FOR THAT AND WE ALREADY KNOW THAT WILL HAPPEN.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE AUDITOR, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN. YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR IT, AND I WOULDN'T IF I WERE YOU.

THEY WILL MAKE THE DECISION, NOT YOU.

THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE. >> INCREASE FOR GAS JUDGE JUDGE

I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT GAGS. >> REPLACE THE TRANSMISSION JUDGE JUDGE YOU GUYS MAKE THAT DECISION.

>> DEPENDING ON WHEN THEY RECEIVE THEIR VEHICLES, THE MATTE NANCE WILL STOP. WE BUDGET MAINTENANCE FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR FOR A VEHICLE. EVEN IF WE DON'T RECEIVE THE VEHICLE FOR THE -- FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR WE HAVE SLATED THAT THE D AWILL RECEIVE THREE VEHICLES NEXT YEAR.

WE DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE HONORED OF THE SPRING.

WE SAY THE SPRING. WE HAVE TO BUDGET THE WHOLE

YEAR. >> I AM TALK THIS YEAR THE VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE ALREADY THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REDO -- WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING OFF PIG REPAIRS.

THE $3,000 TODAY 4,000 REPAIRS BECAUSE OF -- WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING OFF IN HOPES THAT NEW VEHICLES ARE COMING.

BUT THE NEW VEHICLES ARE COMING NEXT YEAR WHICH MEANS WE HAVE TO FIX THE TRANSMISSION. WE HAVE TO FIX THE WHOLE BRAKING SYSTEM. WE WILL HAVE TO GET THE BALL BEARINGS REPLACED. WHAT WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING OFF IS

COMING. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS FROM PATIENCE IS A VICH CHEW. YOU WANT THESE NEW VEHICLES.

YOU NEED THESE NEW VEHICLES. VEHICLES THAT THEY WILL PAY FOR IT. NOT US.

WE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP WORKING TOGETHER TO REALIZE WE LIVE IN THIS IMPERFECT WORLDS. I KNOW YOU WANT TO GET TO YOUR REST OF THE THINGS. I HAD TO STOP BECAUSE YOUR VEHICLES -- THESE VEHICLES GET BETRAYED IN A WAY THAT IS NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE FACTSES WE HAVE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THROUGH NO FAULT OF OUR OWN WE ARE SUFFERING WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD PROMISE YOU EVERY TIME WE BRING IT UP, WE CALL THEM.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE BUDGET. WE GOT YOUR BACK ON THAT PIECE OF IT. WE WANT TO YOU WORRY ABOUT OTHER THINGS BECAUSE THAT WILL GET DEALT WITH THROUGH ENTERPRISE.

>> LET ME MOVE TO THE LADIES HERE TO MY -- TO MY RIGHT.

THESE ARE A GREAT NUMBER OF SUPPORT STAFF IN THE OFFICE.

AND I SUBMITTED PICTURES WITH OUR BUDGET TO THE DESKS AND THE CHAIRS THAT THEY SIT IN EIGHT HOURS A DAY.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN SOME OF THE PICTURES, YOU WILL NOTICE WE HAVE LITTLE BLOCKS THAT ARE PUT UNDERNEATH THE LEGS OF THE CHAIR TO HEIGHTEN IT BECAUSE IT WAS SO OLD WHEN PEOPLE WERE 5'4" AND 5'5". IF WE DON'T PUT THEM ON BLOCKS, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SIT UNDERNEATH THEM.

THE CHAIRS ARE OLD AND THEY DO WHAT THEY CAN TO PUT BACK PROTECTSERS. AND SOME PUT CUSHIONS ON THE CHAIRS BECAUSE THEY ARE THAT OLD, THEY ARE TORN UP.

THAT IS ACTUALLY AN ATTORNEY CHAIR, I THINK.

YOU HAVE -- IT IS JUST A WRECK. SOME WE ARE ASKING TO A LOT MONEY TO REPLACE THOSE DESKS AND THOSE CHAIRS NOW.

WE HAVE PUT IN FOR GRANT MODIFICATION ON OUR J AG GRANT.

WE WERE WORK WITH MARIA BEFORE WE LEFT.

WE SUBSEQUENTLY WORKED WITH NATALIE, AND OUR HOPE IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TOP THE ABLE TO GET THE J AG GRANT.

YOU SEE THOSE BLOCKS UNDERNEATH. IF WE DON'T DO THAT, THEN THE PERSON CAN'T FIT UNDERNEATH THERE.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO USE AJ AG GRANT FOR THAT. I DON'T THINK IT IS FOR THAT.

BUT FURNITURE -- YOU CAN REQUEST IT.

YOU -- >> I AGREE.

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>>JUDGE CANALES: YOU CAN GET IT FROM BUILDING OUTLAY.

>> THAT'S WHERE WE PUT IT IN THIS BUDGET.

WE HAVE ASKED AN INCREASE TO GET DESKS.

AND WE HAVE BEEN WORK WITH PURCHASING.

THEY HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD TO US. MICHAEL ROBINSON AND JAMIE AND THEY HAVE WORKED WITH US TO GET THE ESTIMATES ORIGINALLY FOR NEW DESKS FOR ALL OF THEM AND NEW CHAIRS THAT WE DID SUBMIT WITH THE JAG GRANT. AND I AM SENDING OUT KUDOS TO THEM. THIS SHARE YOU SEE IS SHARES IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM. IF YOU CONTINUE TO MOVE UPWARD, YOU WILL SEE THE TABLE CONFERENCE.

IF YOU BRING IN THE VICTIMS FROM CAPITAL MURDERS AND WE BRING IN OUR OFFICERS ON OUR CAPITAL MURDERS AND OUR ASSAULT.

THIS IS THE CONFERENCE ROOM THEY COME INTO WITH THE PEELING SIDES AND THE -- THIS PEELING ON THE OTHER SIDE AS WELL.

THAT CONFERENCE ROOM TABLE WAS THERE WHEN I WAS A PROSECUTOR 12 YEARS AGO. IT HAS NEVER BEEN REPLACED.

THOSE CHAIRS, I CANNOT TELL YOU BUT OUR OFFICERS WITH THEIR DUTY BELTS ON, THEY CAN'T SIT DOWN BECAUSE THEIR DUTY BELT WON'T FIT IN BETWEEN THE TWO ARMS. WE ARE ASKING FOR FUNDS TO GET A NEW CONFERENCE ROOM TABLE THAT REPRESENT THE WORK THAT WE DO AND CHAIRS THAT ARE EITHER OVERSIZED SO THAT THE DUTY BELTS FIT IN WITH 90% OF OUR WITNESSES.

AND THIS WILL TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO FIND BUT THAT IS WHAT WE ARE

ASKING INTO OUR BUDGET. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SHOULDN'T HAVE TO TAKE THAT LONG TO GET FURNITURE, RIGHT?

>> WE HAVE FOCUSED SO MUCH ON RAISES.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ASK TERESA.

DO THEY GO THROUGH YOU OR MICHAEL FIRST OR YOU.

I KNOW THE PROCESS -- STILL CAPITAL OUTLAY, AND I DON'T KNOW -- WHERE DO WE STAND WITH THIS FURN

FURNITURE? >> I DON'T THINK IT IS TERESA

>>I KNOW IT IS MICHAEL. >> ALL THE REQUESTS GO THROUGH PURCHASING AND THEY GO THROUGH OUR OFFICE FOR FUNDS AVAILABLE IN CAPITAL OUTLAY. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY REQUESTS FOR

FURNITURE. >> WE HAVEN'T MADE ANY.

NOT A REQUEST THAT HAS BEEN IGNORED.

WE HAVEN'T MADE ANY. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: DID

YOU MAKE ONE LAST YEAR? >> NO, WE ARE MAKING IT THIS

YEAR. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: IT SHOULDN'T BE PART OF YOUR BUDGET.

I THINK YOU NEED TO GO TO MICHAEL AND SAY WE NEED TO HAVE IT. THAT'S IT.

>> THE DESKS AND THE CHAIRS. THE OTHER BIG REQUEST THAT WE HAVE, JUDGE CANALES HELPED US WHEN WE WERE HAVING ALL OF OUR ISSUES WITH PANASONIC. AND SHE PUT US IN TOUCH WITH MR. JON AT THE CITY. PHENOMENAL.

AND THEN JON -- AND WE CAT DOWN WITH I.T. HERE -- YES.

AND SO WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF COME TO A CONSENSUS THAT PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH THE PANASONIC DOWNLOAD IS WE GOT MOVED TO LAPTOPS. WE NEED OUR DESK TOPS BACK.

SO WE ARE ASKING TO KEEP THE LAPTOP SO OUR ATTORNEYS WHEN THEY GO UP TO COURT HAVE THEIR LAPTOP.

WE NEED GOOD DESK TOPS THAT ARE CAPABLE OF DOWNLOADING THE PANASONIC VIDEOS SO IT IS NOT TAKING OUR ATTORNEYS FOUR OR FIVE HOURS TO DOWNLOAD VIDEO. TIME THEY DON'T HAVE.

IF THEY LEAVE IT RUNNING OVERNIGHT, YOU KNOW, IT CAUSES ISSUES. AND WE ARE ASKING PLEASE, IN ORDER TO EFFECTIVELY DO OUR JOB AND PROVIDE DISCOVERY TO DEFENSE ATTORNEYS, PLEASE LET US GET REALLY GOOD DESK TOPS.

ESPE ESPECIALLY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I AGREE. >> THAT WILL ALLOW US TO DEAL WITH THE PANASONIC ISSUE AS WELL.

THAT IS IN OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR. I THINK OTHER THAN THAT, WE SHOWED YOU THE PRODUCTIVITY OF THE 59.

ONE OF THE PICTURE THAT IS THERE THAT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, YOU WILL SEE A SET OF BOXES. AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS JUST BOXES BUT THOSE WERE NARCOTICS BEING MAILED THROUGH THE POSTAL SERVICE -- NO, FURTHER DOWN. AND SO THROUGH THE INTELLIGENCE OF OUR CRIMINAL ADDICTION UNIT, THOSE RIGHT THERE THEY WERE ABLE TO CREATE A BIG FEDERAL CASE ASSOCIATED WITH THE TRAFFICKING OF NARCOTICS THROUGH THE POSTIAL SERVICE AND A BIG FEATHER AND IT GOES TOWARD ONE OF OUR GOALS WE SET IN 59 WHICH IS CONTINUING TO DEVELOP OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHICH TIE TO OUR 0135 ACCOUNT OR FEDERAL FORFEITURE AND ALSO BECAUSE THAT INTEL IS SO IMPORTANT. YOU WILL SEE THAT THIS YEAR THEY NOT ONLY PARTNERED AND ABLE TO RETRIEVE NARCOTICS, BUT YOU WILL

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RECEIVE AR RIFLES. A LOT OF GUN THAT WERE SEIZED.

THEY ALSO BEGAN ASSISTING WITH HIGH VOLATILE WARRANTS.

SO WHEN THE SWAT GOES OUT WITH THE CITY AND THOSE TYPE OF WARRANTS, OUR INTERSECTION UNITS ARE HELP WITH THOSE THINGS TOO.

THOSEARS THAT YOU SEE ARE PART OF THE WARRANT BEING EXECUTED.

AND I THINK THAT'S -- KINDS OF THE GIST OF WHERE WE ARE.

WE ARE LOOKING TO MAKE THINGS A LITTLE EASIER ON OUR STAFF AND OBVIOUSLY IF THERE IS A COST OF LIVING INCREASE GIVEN OUT, WE OBVIOUSLY WOULD LOVE FOR OUR PEOPLE TO BE PART OF THAT CONSIDERATION THEY WORK REALLY HARD AND WITH THE ATTORNEYS IS DOWN WHERE THEY ARE. MORALE IS HARD.

AND THEY GIVE A LOT OF WORK AND TIME.

AND TO GIVE THEM A COMFORTABLE AREA TO WORK IN THAT DOESN'T HURT THEIR BACK, LEGS AND STORE THINGS IN PLACE THAT'S WEREN'T MEANT FOR STORAGE. WE ARE JUST HOPING FOR ALL THAT

TO BE CONSIDERED. >>JUDGE CANALES: CAN WE GO OVER VERY QUICKLY -- BECAUSE IT IS AN AGENDA ITEM TOMORROW AND MAKES A LOT OF SENSE AND THIS IS WITHOUT GOING INTO TOO MANY DETAILS AND HELP SET THE STAGE FOR TOMORROW BASICALLY ONE ATTORNEY FROM A 5 TO A 6. TOTAL SPECIALIZED AND TOE CAL COST IS LESS THAN $6,000. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD.-- WITHOUT GOING INTO DETAILS ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE I AM SURE THEY HAVEN'T ACCEPTED IT. THE CONCEPT HERE IS IT WILL FILL -- YOU WOULD GO FROM 11 TO 10. IS THAT RIGHT?

>>. YES.

THAT PERSON CAN COME IN AND WHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE THREE MURDER CASES SET AND THREE DIFFERENT DISTRICT COURT JUDGES THAT ARE SAYING I AM NOT GRANTING YOU A CONTINUANCES.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO. OBVIOUSLY I CAN GRAB ONE.

OUR VIOLENT CRIME POSITION NOW I HAVE ANOTHER PERSON IN THAT CATEGORY THAT WILL COME IN AND PICK UP THE CAPITAL MURDER A COMPLICATED AND ENGAGING CASE AND JUST RUN.

I NEED THAT PERSON DESPERATELY. >>JUDGE CANALES: I NEED THE COURT TO BE AWARE IT IS IN THE BUDGET AND WE WILL DEAL WITH THAT WITH THE SPECIFIC AND IMPORTANT NATURE AND THAT THE COST IS VERY MODEST TO THE BENEFIT.

>> YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: PERFECT.

ANYTHING ELSE HERE WE SHOULD LOOK AT?

. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: EXCUSE ME. DID WE EVER GET YOUR AIR VENTS

CLEANED OUT? >> YES, THEY CAME AND HELPED US, I BELIEVE. I DON'T KNOW NOR SURE.

I DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THAT ROBERTO HERNANDEZ I DO, AND I NOTICE WHEN I WAS THERE, THEY WERE VERY DIRTY.

>> WE WILL LOOK AT THAT AND GET AN ANSWER FOR YOU, COMMISSIONER EVERYBODY WANT TO LOOK AT IT. I WILL ASK FOR YVONNE.

>> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I CAN ASK FOR SOMEONE FROM PUBLIC

WORKS TO DO IT. >> THAT IS FINE, COMMISSIONER.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR ATTENTION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU SO

MUCH. >>COMMISSONER MAREZ: JUDGE, I JUST -- MY CONCERN MORE PHILOSOPHICAL THAT OF ALL THE WORK, YOU KNOW, OF OUR TWO LAW FIRMS THAT WE HAVE HERE WORKING ON NUECES COUNTY ANY OF THE CITIZENS.

ANYONE IN OUR AUDIENCE AN OFFICE MANAGER FOR DESIGNEE NEED TO MONITOR THAT AND GET A PHONE CALL AWAY FROM GETTING EQUIPMENT, GETTING FURNITURE, GETTING SIMPLE THINGS THAT WE REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT.

THE PROBLEM IS, HOW DO WE WORK THROUGH THAT AND GET TO THAT POINT? I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT INTERNALLY AND I KNOW PUBLIC WORKS IS BUSY ENOUGH WITH EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO BUT A BUILDING MAINTENANCE PERSON SHOULD BE ON TOP OF THIS TO GET TO THIS POINT.

I FEEL BAD AND I FEEL GUILTY THAT I HAVE A NICE OFFICE WITH NICE FURNITURE. IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT WAY.

EVERYONE SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE A DECENT AMOUNT OF ADEQUATE FURNITURE THAT IS NOT DECADES OLD.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE TAXED AGAINST YOU OR ANY BUDGET.

SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO INTE

INTERNALLY. >>JUDGE CANALES: TOTALLY AGREE.

CARS, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE WORRY ABOUT ANY OF THAT STUFF, CARS

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AND FURNITURE. YOU ARE SO BUSY AND PUBLIC WORKS IS AN ENGINEERING INFRASTRUCTURE BACKGROUND AND USED TO BE A LONG TIME AGO THAT THIS BUILDING HAD A DEDICATED BUILDING SUPER AND WE STARTED ON THIS PROCESS AND WE REALLY HAVEN'T COMPLETED IT AND IN MY OPINION WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND IN ORDER FOR OUR GROUNDS ON THE OUTSIDE AND YOUR GROUNDS ON THE INSIDE AND THE COMMONALITY OF AIR VENTS WHETHER THEY ARE DIRTY OR NEED ROUTINE MAINTENANCE OR WHETHER YOU NEED FURNITURE.

IF YOU HAD A DEPARTMENT THAT WAS JUST FOCUSED ON THIS BUILDING, YOU WILL SEE SOMEBODY WHO WOULD TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE -- THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR GOALS. THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD GET BACK TO. REALLY A RESHUFFLING OF THE DECK. IT IS NOT NECESSARILY ADDING MORE DOLLARS BUT JUST SAYING THIS IS YOUR MAIN FOCUS.

AND THEN, BE OF COURSE, THERE ARE OTHER BUILDINGS DECIDES THIS BUILDING PEOPLE THAT FOCUS ON BUILDINGS GET YOU NEW ROUTES THAT GET YOU NEW CHAIR. AT LEAST AN ASSESSMENT.

A ONCE A YEAR ASSESS{SUFFIX}MENT TO ALL OF THIS STUFF.

I HATE THAT YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.

WE WILL TAKE THE BURDEN FROM YOU.

AND I WANT YOU TO COME PITCH THOSE FIVE TO SIXES ALL DAY LONG AND LET US WORRY ABOUT IT, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT AND THAT IS WHAT COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ WAS SAYING.

NOT ON LAST YEAR'S SLATE BUT THIS YEAR'S, THEN WE WILL TAKE A

LOOK AT IT. >> THANK YOU.

IF THERE ARE IN OTHER QUESTIONS IN.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE ARE GOOD. >> MAY WE BE EXCUSED.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL BE EXCUSED TOO BECAUSE WE ARE DONE WITH THE MORNING SESSION AND WE WILL SEE YOU GUYS BACK HERE AT 1 P.M., GUYS? AT 1 P.M.

AND AND MAY I JUST ASK IS THE 1 P.M.

>> PUBLIC WORKS. >> TOO BIG.

ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SLIDE IN? NOBODY? -- COULD WE AT LEAST GET THEM TO START.

IT WILL HELP US TO KEEP THINGS GOING.

I WISH WE COULD GET JJ AND VETERAN SERVICES BUT THAT IS

CATCHING HIM OFFGUARD. >> WE WILL GET A RESPONSE FROM

CONSTABLE -- >> HE CAN'T EVEN BE THERE ON

THURSDAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: NEVER MIND.

WE SHOULD BE OKAY WITH THE 10:30 THEN.

RIGHT. >> HE HAS BEEN ILL.

HE WON'T BE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: SO NOW WE HAVE 12:45 TO 1:15 TO REPLACE THAT -- TO REPLEAS THE LOSS OF THE HOUR UP TOP. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S JUST HOLD TO SEE .

>>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT WE WILL DO IS BREAK AT NOON.

YOU WILL STILL HAVE YOUR FULL TIME IF YOU COME BACK IF NEEDED BUT WE ARE TRYING TO GET AHEAD IF POSSIBLE.

SO YOU CAN TELL US WHAT YOU WANT TO DO FIRST, BUT THE WAY I HAVE IT LISTED IS RODIN BRIDGE. 0210 AND 0211.

IF YOU SAY NO, WOULD RATHER TACKLE THE OTHER ONES, YOU TELL

US WHAT YOU WANT TO TACKLE. >> I WILL DO ROAD AND BRIDGE.

>> 01 # 1. TO YOU HAVE A POWERPOINT OR

ANYTHING THAT CONNIE NEEDS. >> NO, JUDGE, JUST WHAT WE SUBMITTED. AND I AM GOING TO ALLOW -- I WILL LET YOLANDA TAKE OVER AND SHE WILL GO DOWN THE -- OF WHAT

IS BEING REQUESTED. >>JUDGE CANALES: GO AHEAD, YOLANDA. BUT WE ARE GOING TO START ON ROAD AND BRIDGE. THAT'S IN OUR PACKET PAGE ONE.

YOU HAVE A VERY MODEST REQUEST. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYONE ELSE. I GUESS WE WILL TALK WITH THE ROAD BRIDGE. THE PERSONNEL REQUEST FORM SINCES IT IS AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE.

WE HAVE JUST REQUESTING AN INCREASE FOR ACCOUNTING STAFF.

WE HAVE TAKEN A LOT MORE JUDY'S AND SO WE ARE JUST -- WE ARE JUST LOOKING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET AN INCREASE FOR THE

ACCOUNTING PERSONNEL. >>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT ONE

PERSON. >> TWO PERSONS MYSELF AND NORA AND WE DO ALL THE ROAD AND BRIDGE.

WE DO ALL BUILDING MAINTENANCE. WE DO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ENFORCEMENT. AND 911.

WE DO ALL THE DEPARTMENT -- ALL THE ACCOUNTING FOR AT ALL THE

DEPARTMENT UNDER PUBLIC WORKS. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I

JUST -- >> I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT WE TO

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ANYTHING THAT COMES IN, POST THAT ARE ASKED FOR COMMISSIONERS FOR ANY TIME OF ROAD IMPROVEMENTS OR DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS OR ANY KIND OF PROJECTS.

THOSE GO THROUGH OUR OFFICE. AND IT -- IT IS A LOT OF WORK FOR -- FOR ACCOUNTING. I KNOW THEY -- THEY HAVE DONE A LOT. AND IT WAS MY RECOMMENDATION -- I TOLD YOLANDA AND NORA I WAS GOING TO PUT THIS ON HERE.

IF ANYTHING COMES UP AND WE NEED A PO AND WE NEED SOME TYPE OF BUDGET CHANGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IT GOES THROUGH BOTH OF THEM AND A LOT OF WORK. IT IS ADDITIONAL WORK.

>>JUDGE CANALES: DO YOU GUYS NEED ANY.

I AM MAKING -- TAKING LIST. DO YOU GUYS USE ANY SOFTWARE AND DO YOU WANT TO USE ANY SOFTWARE. WE ARE MAKING LIST OF SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES I AM CURIOUS THAT CAN HELP YOU IN THIS

ENDEAVOR? >> WELL, WE USE, OF COURSE, THE ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE PROVIDED BY THE AUDITING DEPARTMENT, THE ONE SOLUTION. WE -- WE USE THAT ON A DAILY BASIS. PRETTY MUCH THE MINUTE WE WALK IN, WE TURN ON ONE SOLUTION. EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS IN ONE SOLUTION. AND ALL OUR SPREADSHEETS WE TRY TO KEEP SPREADSHEETS FOR, ALL THE PROJECTS TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT OVERRUN AND COMING -- THEY ARE BEING -- THEY ARE COMING TO THEIR EXPIRATION STATES OR SOMETHING.

WE HAVE TO. WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT ONXL SPREAD SHE SHEETS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER --. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: DO YOU HAVE TWO -- I ONLY SEE ONE, BUT YOU HAVE TWO.

SO IS THAT BE THAT TIMES TWO? >> YES, MYSELF AND NORA HERE.

GORNZ GONZALEZ NOT VERY MUCH HERE.

LIKE A STEP INCREASE OR TWO STEPS INCREASE.

FROM A 6 TO AN 8. SORRY, 18 TO # 2.

FROM 17 AND 19. >> RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE?

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> AND I WILL GO TO THE -- TO THE ROAD AND BRIDGE EXPENDITURES.

AND WE ARE JUST ASKING SOME -- AN INCREASE IN OUR OFFICE EXPENSES THE LAST -- SEEMS LIKE THE LAST TWO BUDGETS, WE HAD TO INCREASE OUR OFFICE EXPENSES FOR COPY PAPER AND PENCILS AND SUPPLIES FOR -- FOR THE ROAD AND BRIDGE DEPARTMENT.

OF COURSE, THAT -- THAT ENTAILS FOR ALL -- NOT JUST THE COURTHOUSE OFFICE BUT OUR FIELD OFFICES TOO.

AND WE ARE ALSO ASKING A -- TO A NO CHANGE IN OUR MATERIAL AND MAYBE POSSIBLY ONE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT A LOT OF OUR CONTRACTS ARE UP FOR RENEWAL. AND WE HAVE GOTTEN LETTERS FROM DIFFERENT VENDORS SAYING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO INCREASE OUR PRICE UNIT AND SOME ARE UP TO 30%.

JUMPING FROM $# 50 TODAY 80 TODAY 70.

THAT MIGHT EXCEED WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR MATERIAL.

WE ARE HOPE TO LEAVE IT NO CHANGE SO WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE MATERIAL THAT WE ARE REQUESTING FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YE YEAR.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, THANK Y

YOU. >> THE ONLY OTHER INCREASE WE HAVE IS WHEN THE CONTRACT LEASE CAME UP THAT WAS APPROVED, WE HAD WORKED ON IT FROM PRIOR BUDGET.

AND IT WAS SHORT, LIKE, $600. SO THE $529 TO MAKE THAT FINAL PAYMENT THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. AND THEN OUR NEXT -- NEXT BIG

INCREASE. >>COMMISSONER MAREZ: LET ME ASK A QUESTION REAL QUICK ON THE SALARIES THAT ARE COMING UP TO ME. WHEN WE DO A SALARY.

SAY -- NOT TO SAY THESE POSITIONS REQUESTS, BUT ANY POSITION REQUEST. IF SOMEONE GETS A STEP AND SAYS THAT COURT DECIDES TO ADD A COST OF LIVING.

DO THEY GET A STEP AND A COST OF LIVING ON TOP OF THE STEP.

HOW DOES THAT WORK. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT'S YOUR LONG GEFLT. GO AHEAD AND GRAB.

>> WITH THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS, THE PAY SCHEDULE

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CHANGES. BASED ON WHAT IS AGREED UPON.

THAT WILL CHANGE THE GROUP AMOUNT.

NOT THE STEP. THE STEP IS BASED OFF OF YEARS -- OF SERVICE. IN -- IN THE INSTANCE THAT THEY WOULD RECEIVE THE GROUP INCREASE, THEY WOULD RECEIVE THE

GROUP AND THE COST OF LIVING. >>COMMISSONER MAREZ: IF WE WENT TO AN 18 INSTEAD OF A 17 AND A 19 -- SAY A 20 INSTEAD OF A 18.

20 INSTEAD OF A 22, THEY WILL GET THAT.

AND THEN THEY WILL GET -- >> CORRECT, IF THERE IS A COST

OF LIVING. >>COMMISSONER MAREZ: I DON'T MEAN TO MAKE YOU ALL AN EXAMPLE SINCE IT IS THERE, IT KIND OF POP IN MY HEAD. AND I AM LIKE, LET ME CLARIFY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IS WHERE I GET CONFUSED AND WHERE THE PUBLIC GETS CONFUSED AND MAYBE NEW EMPLOYEES THEM 70S.

I AM NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT IS THE DIRECTION I WANT TO KNOW, BUT IT HELPS ME REMEMBER GOING -- AS WE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS HOW THAT CAN WORK TO -- YOU KNOW, TO -- IT IS GOING TO BE TIGHT. AND ANY WAY THAT WE CAN SHOW WE APPRECIATE OUR EMPLOYEES AND MAYBE GIVE THEM APPEAR -- YOU KNOW, A GROUP MOVING UP. MAYBE ONE GROUP.

AND COST OF LIVING MAYBE THAT CAN AT LEAST SHOW THAT WE RECOGNIZE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE BUT MAYBE NOT AT THE -- AT THE LEVEL THAT THEY WERE EXPECTING OR PRESENTING TO US.

BUT AT LEAST THEY WILL GET A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT THEY STARTED OFF WITH PREVIOUS YEARS. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. I AM SORRY, KEEP GOING.

>> AND OUR NEXT REQUEST IS THE INCREASE FOR OUR EQUIPMENT.

WE ARE REQUESTING 847,000. ALL THIS IS JUST TO REPLACE OLD EQUIPMENT.

OUR HEAVIER EQUIPMENT. OUR LEASE PROGRAM TO HELP US ROTATE ALL OUR VEHICLES WHICH IS REALLY GOOD BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE MONIES TO REPLACE OUR OLDER EQUIPMENT THAT WE USE ON A DAILY BASIS FOR ROADWORK. WE ARE TRYING TO REPLACE -- WE ARE REQUESTING A SMALL DUMP TRUCK.

AND THAT IS A REPLACEMENT. AND A SWEEPER THAT IS REPLACE{SUFFIX}ING A 19 1999 BROSHI.

SWEEPER AND REQUESTING ONE TANDEM DUMP TRUCK TO REPLACE A 2001 TRUCK. A FLAT BRUSH TRUCK TO REPLACE A 2000 BRUSH TRUCK. TWO STATE BEDS REPLACING OLDER VEHICLES AS WELL AND THE J JOHN DEERE BACKHOE IS REPLACE{SUFFIX}ING A 2002 BACK HOE.

THE WATER SPRINKLER TO REPLACE A 1992 WATER TRUCK.

ALL THE REQUEST FOR THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT IS TO REPLACE OLD EQUIPMENT THAT WE FEEL IS NO LONGER FEASIBLE TO CONTINUE TO

REPAIR THEM. >>JUDGE CANALES: SO LET ME ASK YOU THAT. SO THEY ALL WORK.

THEY ALL ARE OPERATIONAL IN THE FIELD TODAY OR NOT.

CAN YOU SEPARATE THEM? CAN YOU -- CAN YOU PROVIDE ME A LIST OF WHAT ABSOLUTELY IS NOT FUNCTIONING VERSUS WHAT IS.

BECAUSE WHAT I AM GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO IS TO WAIT A YEAR.

BECAUSE YOU GUYS GOT A MILLION DOLLARS IN THE CO FOR EQUIPMENT.

YOU GOT $2 MILLION FROM ARPA. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT IS $3 MILLION IN EQUIPMENT THIS YEAR. LAST FISCAL CYCLE.

WE ALSO BOUGHT EQUIPMENT IN A VARIETY OF AREAS.

SO WHAT I AM NEED TO FIGURE OUT IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS REALLY, LIKE, JUST IS NOT FUNCTIONING. AND THE SECOND THING I AM ALSO GOING TO SAY IS THAT WITH $850,000.

IS THERE A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION BY LEASING THE MOST IMPORTANT OF THAT EQUIPMENT THAT IS NONFUNCTIONAL THAT CAN GO FROM 800,000, LET'S SAY TO 100,000. BECAUSE THAT KIND OF YEAR WHERE WE NEED TO BE MORE CREATIVE. WE NEED TO GET YOU WHAT YOU NEED PTS WE CAN'T JUST WRITE CHECKS BECAUSE IT IS NOT THERE TO HAVE.

I REALIZE YOUR BUDGET SUBMISSION IS FOOD.

WE ALWAYS ASK WHAT IS THERE, AND IF YOU DO A DIVISION FOR ME THAT WILL REALLY HELP ME AS I PREPARE TO GO TO ADVOCATE FOR THE AWED

TO BE. >> OKAY.

THEN LIKE I SAY THE MILLION THAT WE WERE GIVEN FOR EQUIPMENT, WE DID REPLACE A LOT OF EQUIPMENT THAT WASN'T WORKING -- IT IS ALWAYS IN THE SHOP OR JUST GETTING PARTS TO KIND OF FIX IT TO GET GOING. SO WE JUST -- YOU KNOW, IT IS A LOT. SO WITH THAT MONEY REDID, WE DID PURCHASE A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WAS HELPING OUT THERE IN THE FIELD. WE GOT THE -- YOU KNOW, THE -- THE PNEUMATIC ROLLER. WE GOT THE -- THE OIL DISTRIBUTOR THAT WAS IN THE BROOM FOR THE SILL COATING.

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A LOT OF THAT EQUIPMENT ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE IN THE SHOP.

>> I WANT TO ADD JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS IS THE REASON WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS EQUIPMENT IS TO BE MORE EFFICIENT.

IF YOU HAVE -- AT AN AUTOMOTIVE SHOP, YOU ARE NOT DOING YOUR JOB OR YOU CAN'T DO YOUR WHOLE JOB. AND ACQUIRING THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS OFFICIAL AND THAT WE ARE NOT WAIT FOR A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT TO COME OUT OF OUR GARAGE

>>I AGREE WITH YOU. I AM JUST ASKING WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN SUSTAIN IT ANOTHER YEAR SO THAT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF.

>> RIGHT NOW WE ARE JUST --. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: HAVE YOU USED ALL YOUR MONEY FROM THE CIPS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THECEO. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: TO REPLACE OLD EQUIPMENT. THAT IS BEING USED? THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL -- ASKING FOR HALF OF THAT OR WHATEVER IT

IS. >> ALL FOR ADDITIONAL -- TO REPLACE ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT. THE MILLION THAT YOU GAVE US IN THECIS, YES, WE BOUGHT ALL NEW EQUI

EQUIPMENT. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: JUDGE BROUGHT UP WHICH IS A VERY GOOD POINT.

YOU CAN -- OF A SPREAD OF WHAT IS WORKING OR NOT WORKING WELL.

AND HAVE THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR, A POSSIBILITY WE CAN DO THAT TOO? ..

>> WE CAN DO THAT. >> IF YOU HOOK AT THE LIST, I LIST IT IT BY PRIORITY. IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE LIST, THOSE ARE PRIORITIES. ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.

I HAD OUR MECHANICS AND PEOPLE AT CENTRAL GARAGE SAY WHAT IS PRIORITY AND WHAT YOU WANT TO REPLACE NOW.

THIS LIST IS BY PRIORITY. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: STOP HAVING PEOPLE COMPLAIN AND MOVE OVER HERE.

YOU GOT TO HAVE GUYS ON THE STREET, RIGHT.

ANYWAY, THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW.

CAN'T DO THE 8. WE CAN DO THE 4.

WHATEVER. A POSSIBILITY.

SORRY. >> THAT WAS OUR LAST ITEM.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? >>JUDGE CANALES: WHY DON'T WE GO TO ANOTHER ONE. YOU WANT TO TRY 911, NOT TOO

MUCH. >> 911.

CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ANY CHANGES FOR THAT.

THE BUDGET SEEMS TO BE IN LLINE. THE ONLY THING THE LICENSE RENEWAL FOR THE MEMBERSHIP AND FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND SOFTWARE SUPPORT FOR THE ESRE AND THE MAP INFO THAT 911 USES.

NO CHANGES THERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: CONNIE, YOU HAVE SOMEONE TRYING TO COME IN THAT NEEDS TO BE ADMITTED.

WHY DON'T WE MOVE TO VECTOR CON CONTROL. THANK IS 3092.

. >> FOR VECTOR CONTROL, I HAVE SOME PERSONNEL CHANGES FOR VECTOR CONTROL.

AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH VECTOR CONTROL IS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE TECHNICIAN THAT PRETTY MUCH OVERSEAS THE OTHER TECHNICIANS. OUR TO GO PERSON.

HIS FUNCTION IS REALLY HAVE BROUGHT THE VECTOR CONTROL DEPARTMENT TO A REALLY GOOD STANDARDS IS HE HAS BROUGHT THE BUFFALO TURBINES AND KEEPS THEM TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF MAKE HIM A FOREMAN TO OVERSEE THE OTHER TWO TECHNICIANS AND BRING UP THE TECHNICIAN TO MEET A LITTLE BIT MORE OF RESPONSIBILITIES. THEY DO A LOT OF.

WHEN THEY ARE NOT DOING MOSQUITO SPRAYING DURING SEASONS.

THEY ARE DOING MAINTAINING. THEY ARE DOING THE PEST CONTROL FOR THE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS. SO THAT IS FOR THEIR PERSONNEL

REQUESTS. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: TWO STAFF THERE.

TWO OR THREE? >> THREE, COMMISSIONERS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: SUPERVISOR AND THE TWO.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU WANT TO MOVE THE SUPERVISOR TO

ANOTHER STEP? >> WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ONE OF THE VECTOR PATROL PERSONNEL TO A FOREMAN BECAUSE HE IS THE ONE TO COORDINATES AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS THEIR LICENSING.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: HE IS A WHAT TO A WHAT?

>> RIGHT NOW HE IS GOING -- PARDON ME.

>> GOING FROM A -- FROM A 14 TO A 24.

THEY ARE ALL 14S. WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING THEM FROM -- THE -- WE LIKE TO BRING FROM A 14 TO A 24.

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OTHER TECH NEGOTIATE SHAN FROM A 14 TO THE 19.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THE 174. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS 36,000.

>> HIS STEP IS A 6. AND WE WILL BRING HIM FROM A GROUP 14 TO A GROUP 24. THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE ALL OUR FOR FOREMENS.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: UP FROM

$34,902. >> THIS IS BY HOSPITAL DISTRICT,

RIGHT? >>JUDGE CANALES: NO.

>> YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE FOREMANS?

>> THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT. >> WE NEED TO WORK WITH THEM TO

BE ABLE TO APPROVE THIS. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE FOREMAN, IT

IS A BIG JUMP. >> ALL THE EQUIPMENT.

THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT NEEDS TO APPROVE THAT WITH THE BUDGET.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THE BOARD NEEDS TO APPROVE IT.

>> THE GOOD PROVIDES THE FUND. THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: JUST SO YOU KNOW SINCE IT IS A -- WELL, IT'S FUNNY. IT IS SHY OF $20,000 AND IT DOESN'T FIT IN THE POLL, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND, YEAH, PUT CAN THIS ON A WISH LIST AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY.

I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW -- I MEAN, HOW THIS GOT THERE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FIT, AND IT DOESN'T FIT THE MISSION. PUBLIC HEALTH.

IT FITS THE MISSION FOR PUBLIC HEALTH, BUT NOT FOR HOSPITAL DIS DISTRICT.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: HOW WOULD THEY APPROVE PUBLIC WORKS.

. AT THE ME BUILDING.

I DON'T KNOW, THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION TO FIND OUT WHAT -- WHY

IS IT -- DO WE KNOW. >> THEY HAVE BEEN ON A MOU AGREEMENT FOR I AM NOT SURE HOW MANY YEARS WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY CREATED THE VECTOR CONTROL, AND IT HAS BEEN REIMBURSED COST -- I HAVE BEEN HERE FIVE YEARS AND LONGER THAN THAT, AT LEAST.

>> FOR THE POSITIONS THEMSELVES. >> THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.

>> REIMBURSE EVERYTHING. >>COMMISSONER MAREZ: THEY HELPED

US WITH THE BUFFALO --.. >>JUDGE CANALES: TURBINES.

>>COMMISSONER MAREZ: TURBINES. >> THEY APPROVED ALL EXPENSES AND MOST EQUIPMENT HAVE TO BE IMPROVED.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE MADE A GOOD ARGUMENT BECAUSE OF WEST NILE, ZIKA, ST. LOUIE ENCEPHALITIS. BUT I CAN TELL YOU BECAUSE I -- BECAUSE I SAW ON THEIR AGENDA, THEY DEFINITELY WANT TO HAVE AWARENESS TO ANYTHING THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.

>> ANY CHANGES THEY DEFINITELY WANT TO KNOW.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THEY HAD IT ON THEIR AGENDA AND IT HAD NO BACK-UP DATA LAST TIME. MAYBE WE NEED TO JUST ADD THIS

TO THE --. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WORD IS SHOULD HAVE. BUT APPROVING.

>> THEY APPROVE EVERYTHING. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT IS THEIR MONEY AND THEY ARE AN INDEPENDENT BOARD.

>> EVERY THREE MONTHS PROVIDE AN INVOICE AND THEY HAVE TO APPROVE EVERY EVERYTHING.

>> WHY DON'T WE LEAVE IT AT THIS POINT.

I THINK YOUR POINT IS THAT THE FOREMANS ARE ALL AT THIS LEVEL.

TO MAKE HIM A FOREMAN. THAT IS WHERE YOU WILL HAVE TO BE. THAT IS THIS MOST IMPORTANT POINT BECAUSE IT LOOKS VERY ODD. SO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU VISUALLY LOOK AT IT. YOU NEED TO MAKE MAKE CERTAIN WHEN YOU HAVE THAT PHONE CALL OR MEETING WITH THEM, WITH THE EXECUTIVE TEAM, THAT YOU TELL THEM THAT IN ORDER TO HAVE A FOREMAN, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY THROUGH OUR OWN PAY SCALE WHERE IT HAS TO BE THAT YOU ARE NO THE ASKING TO DO ANYTHING THAT IS OUT OF THE ORDINARY. OKAY, THAT HELPS US A LOT TO HELP US UNDERSTAND THAT. OKAY.

AND THEN -- >> THEN FOR THEIR OPERATING EXPENSES, WE HAVE NO CHANGE. WE -- JUST TO -- FOR THE COMPLIANCE FOR THE PESTICIDE MANAGEMENT.

WE KIND OF -- DON'T WANT TO -- WANT TO GIVE YOU IN ITS THAT THAT $29,000 IS SO WE CAN HAVE MONIES FOR -- FOR THAT

COMPLIANCE WITH TCQ. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS FAIR.

THE ONE THING I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU WHEN WE DID BUY THAT PUFF

LOW TURBINE. >> WE HAVE TWO NOW.

>>JUDGE CANALES: AND YOU ARE GOOD?

>> WE HAVE TWO NOW AND VERY GOOD.

>>JUDGE CANALES: YOU CAN BE SURE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE FOREMAN

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HOW GRATEFUL WE ARE. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: BRING

THE CERTIFICATION UP. >> I AM SORRY.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: STEM CELL GETTING THE CERTIFICATION?

>>. >> YOU NEED LICENSE TO.

>> I JUST WANT TO ADD JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS WITH THE BUFFALO TURBINES, THE LAST TIME WE USED IT, WE TOOK THE SPRAYING TIME IN HALF. THE -- WITH THE OTHER NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WITH THE TURBINE WILL HELP US OUT EVEN MORE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. AND TERESA, I THINK -- WE ALWAYS DO THIS, BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND CREATE OUR OWN LITTLE INTERNAL SPREADSHEET ON HOSPITAL DISTRICT CHANGES SO WE CAN TRACK THEM.

WE HAD TWO ALREADY AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM AND THE OTHER ONE WAS THE -- THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. LET'S TRACK THEM.

. >>COMMISSONER MAREZ: THIS IS NOT WORKSHOP RELATED BUT IF YOU CAN, JUAN.

I KNOW YOU PROVIDED US UPDATES WHEN YOU SPRAYED, BUT IS THERE A WAY OF TRACKING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THIS COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS TECHNIQUE? THERE IS A WAY TO MEASURE THAT, BUT IF YOU CAN, IT IS NO THE PART OF THE WORKSHOP.

IF YOU CAN PROVIDE US SOMETHING IN WRITING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT WILL BE HELPFUL TO KIND OF SHARE THAT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND EVERYBODY ASK AND MAYBE USE DURING BUDGET REQUEST GOING BEFORE THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO ORDER AND ANYTHING

ELSE. >> WE CAN PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND I KNOW VICTOR IS KEEPING TRACK.

AND MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE CARE OF IT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: AND I THINK YOU SHOULD GO AHEAD AND WORK W WITH IDAI AND BELINDA TO GET ON THE NEXT AGENDA AND YOU GO BECAUSE YOU ARE THE EXPERTS ON IT.

THE OTHER THING I WILL SAY AS A QUICKIE AND TO TAG TEAM ON WHAT COMMISSIONER MAREZ SAID, A NEW PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER AND GO AND MEET HIM AND WHEN HE IS READY TO SPRAY.

GIVE HIM A HEADS UP WHAT THE CALENDAR WILL LOOK LIKE SO HE CAN BE READY WITH THE HOLD -- WE COULD BE SPRAYING AND HAVE HIS HOLDING STATEMENTS READY FOR FOR WHEN WE SPRAY OR UNFORTUNATELY WHEN PUBLIC HEALTH COMETS UP WITH WITH THE MOSQUITOES TESTED POSITIVE FOR ST. LOUIE ENCEPHALITIS AND WHATEVER.

WE TACKLED. >> WHAT AREAS ARE THEY GOING TO SPRAY? TO INFORM THE PUBLIC.

>> I THINK WHAT WE HAVE DONE, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, WE ARE SENDING YOU UPDATES ON A MAP.

SMALL MAPS. TO SHOW WHAT THEY ARE SPRAYING.

SAY THEY SPRAY TODAY, AN E-MAIL TOMORROW TELLING YOU WHAT THEY SPRAY. WHAT SECTIONS WERE SPRAYED.

ONCE WE START DOING THAT WE WILL GET THAT INFORMATION AGAIN.

>>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S'S TACKLE -- METHOD TO MY MADNESS.

I AM TRYING TO FINISH THE ONES THAT I KNOW WE CAN FINISH.

ENVIRONMENTAL ENFORCEMENTS. >> I HAVE ONE MORE ITEM FOR

VECTOR CONTROL. >> GO AHEAD.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THEY NEED COMPUTERS.

THEY CURRENTLY HAD TWO OLD COMPUTERS THEY ARE USING AND THREE TECHNICIANS. REPLACE THE TWO AND ADD A THIRD ONE FOR TECHNICIAN AND THERE IS AN UPDATE FOR COMPUTERS.

THEY HAVE A SOFTWARE THAT HELPS WITH THE MASS KEY TOE -- THE MOSQUITO COUNT. THE -- WHERE THEY GIVE YOU THE MAPS AND WHAT SECTIONS. AND IT IS KIND OF SLOWING DOWN THE COMPUTER BECAUSE THE COMPUTERS ARE OLD AND THEY ARE

TROUBLE. >> THE MICROSCOPES ARE USED.

AND PUT IN THE COMPUTER. AND TO HAVE A NEWER MICROSCOPE IS SLOWING DOWN PROGRESS WITH THEIR COMPUTER.

. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT IS RESOURCE, IT'S A GIVEN.

I MEAN, IT IS JUST A MATTER OF PUT IT INTO THE QUEUE.

RIGHT. IF YOU DEMONSTRATE THAT.

YOUR CHAIR IS BROKEN, YOUR DESK IS BROKEN, YOUR COMPUTER IS NOT IN KEEPING. EXACTLY.

YOU JUST ASK FOR IT. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL BUDGET. IN FACT IT IS HELPFUL IF IT DOESN'T WAIT UNTIL BUDGET, BECAUSE IT TAKES A WHILE FOR ANYTHING TO CONNELL IN. BUT WE ARE LOGGING IT ALL IN SO YOU ARE READY TO PASS THE TORCH TO ENVIRONMENTAL.

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LIMITIAL IS 5220. AND WE ARE TRYING TO BRING ONE OF THE OFFICERS TO A SENIOR ENVIRONMENTAL ENFORCEMENT OFFICER NO OVERSEE THAT APPOINTMENT AND THEY ARE BOTH 20S RIGHT NOW. WE ARE TRYING TO BRING THEM UP TO A 21 AND A 22. AND THEN WE ARE ASKING FOR TWO MORE OFFICERS. WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN OFFICER THAT IS FUNDED THROUGH THE ARPA THAT ONCE THAT FUNDING IS NOT AVAILABLE ANYMORE, WE WILL -- WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING HIM AS -- IN ANOTHER ENVIRONMENT -- FULL-TIME TO THE DEPARTMENT.

HE IS BEING REAL HELPFUL. THEY ARE USING HIM TO DO -- TO HELP HIM OUT. DURING THE -- TO GO OUT IN THE FIELD, TO DO PAPER WORK ARE SAFETIES IT WILL BE VERY GOOD TO KIND OF BRING HIM THE FUNDING -- TO BRING HIM ON BOARD AGAIN.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. BUT YOU ARE ASKING FOR THE CONTINUATION OF THE ARPA OFFICER?

>> RIGHT. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY.

GUYS, ANY QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THIS? IN ADDITION TO THE ONE, YOU ARE ASKING FOR TWO MORE.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: DOES

THAT INCLUDE VEHICLES? >> WE HAVE AN EXTRA VEHICLE FOR THE ONE WE ARE HAVING RIGHT NOW FUNDED THROUGH ARPA, BUT WE PROBABLY -- WE WILL PROBABLY NEED TWO MORE RESPONDER TO BRING THE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL ON BOARD. I HAVE CHRISDORN HERE.

>> THAT WILL BE PERFECT. MISS YOLANDA SAYS THAT HELP HAVE

BEEN -- >> USE THE MIC.

>> SORRY. THE ADDITIONAL OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE OUT IN THE FIELD HAVE BEEN TREM TREMENDOUS, TREMENDOUS BURDEN LIFTED OFF OF US TO DRIVE FROM ONE END OF THE COUNTY TO THE OTHER END OF THE COUNTY AND GO BACK TO THE OFFICE AND BACK OUT FOR REINSPECTION.

THIS WOULD -- THIS WOULD ALLEVIATE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, STRESS WHERE WE COULD HAVE HE AN INDIVIDUALS HAVING SECTORS AND A PRECINCT WOULD BE PERFECT. AS FAR AS THE UNITS GO, YES, WE

WOULD NEED ADDITIONAL UNITS. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. .

>>COMMISSONER MAREZ: CAN I -- I WOULD LIKE TO ASK SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE.

ANY DISCUSSION OR HOW WILL IT WORK TO PUT THESE OFFICERS UNDER

COLLECTIVE BARGAINING. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK WE HAVE

DISCUSSED THAT. >>COMMISSONER MAREZ: I KNOW WE HAVE. I BROUGHT IT UP AND MOST OF US PROBABLY HAVE AT SOME POINT, JUST -- I -- LIKE IDA MENTIONED EARLIER WITH HER I.T. PERSON. I CAN'T IMAGINE PEOPLE DOING THE SAME JOB BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE IN A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT, THEY GET EXCLUDED. I THINK THAT SHOULD APPLY FOR I.T. AND ANYONE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT TA TAKES. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT DIRECTSLY IMPACTS THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, AND SOMETHING THAT WE WILL TRY TO GET AN ANSWER BEFORE THE BUDGE SO WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: COMMISSIONER, A GOOD POINT.

AND COUNCILMAN IS WILLING TO WORK WITH US ON THAT.

>> PRECINCT 5 AS WELL. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHERE THEY WILL BE ACTUALLY UNDER THEIR COMMISSION BUT ASSIGNED TO PUBLIC WORKS, RIGHT. AND I THINK COMMISSIONER -- COMMISSIONER -- CONSTABLE SHERWOOD.

DOESN'T HE SPONSOR SOMEBODY. >> YES.

WHAT HAPPENS IS THERE IS A LOT OF MISCONCEPTION WITH US BEING -- HOW DO I SAY THIS, JUST BEING WITH CIVILIAN.

BUT ULTIMATELY WE FALL UNDER THE CONSTABLE FOR THE LAW ENFOR ENFORCEMENT.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I THINK THERE IS A WAY.

I GO BACK TO VISIT WITH CONSTABLE --

>>JUDGE CANALES: THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS WE ARE DUE TO HAVE THOSE DIALOGUES AND CONTRACTS IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR COMMISSIONER MAREZ, AND THAT IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO DO IT. SO THIS IS COMING UP NEXT YEAR.

THIS IS THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT.

BUT THE ACTUAL PROCESS ACTUALLY WILL TAKE PLACE IN '23.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: COULD BE TAKEN EARLY '23 OR LATE '22.

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BUT THEY CAN WORK IT OUT. I THINK IT IS WORKABLE.

>>COMMISSONER MAREZ: AS LONG AS WE MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WOULD BE INCLUDED AND WE FIGURED IT OUT BEFORE THE BUDGET IS OVER AND I AGREE, DO MORE AGGRESSIVE IN 2022 AND 2023, THAT MAKES SENSE AND THEN THE ''23 TO '24 BUDGET.

>>JUDGE CANALES: YOU CONTRACT FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND IF YOU CONTRACT YOU ARE NOT CHANGING FOR THEM BUT ACROSS THE BOARD. TRUST ME IF HE WITH SAY CALL HIM IN AND TALK ABOUT IT. MAKE SURE THAT IT IS TO OUR SATISFACTION AND THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND IT NEEDS TO BE DONE DURING THE CONTRACT PERIOD OTHERWISE YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FUND THE CONTRACT. IT IS ALL CYCLICAL.

ALL GOES ON THE CYCLE. SO I THINK -- I THINK IT IS A

GOOD PLAN. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I THINK IT IS A GOOD MOVE, JUDGE. OUR COUNTY IS GROWING.

WE ARE GETTING A BIGGER POPULATION OUT THERE.

AND SO WE NEED MORE LAW ENFORCEMENT OUT THERE ON BOTH SIDES, WHETHER IT BE SHERIFF HOOPER OR THESE GUYS.

OUR COUNTY IS GROWING. SO WE NEED TO SERVICE IT AS WELL. THANK YOU, GUYS.

YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, SO THAT -- THAT'S ON THAT PIECE OF IT.

JUST GIVE ME ONE SECOND AND I WILL GO AHEAD AND MARK SOME NOTES HERE. AND WE ARE STILL JUST WORKING ON ONE CLERK, CORRECT, GUYS? JUST ONE CLERK?

>> YES, MA'AM. WE ARE STILL -- WE ARE STILL BACK IN DISCUSS THIS IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER TIME FRAME.

YOU WERE ASKING US TO GO AUTOMATED TO REALLOCATE THE

POSITION TO THE SECRETARY. >>JUDGE CANALES: CORRECT.

YOU LIKE THAT? >> WE LOVE THAT AS FAR AS, YOU

KNOW, REALLOCATE THAT POSITION. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY.

SO THAT'S -- THAT'S ALL ON HERE. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT HELPS.

THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE.

I THINK WE HAVE TIME FORMIKENZIE JAIL ANNEX.

LET'S DOMCKINZIE JAIL ANNEX. >> I JUST WANTED TO FINISH THE OPERATING EXPERIENCES FOR ENVIRONMENTAL ENFORCEMENT.

I WANTED INCREASE AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT LINE ITEM HAS GONE OVER. WE DID THIS YEAR TRY TO DO THE TIRE ROUND-UP, CLEANUP. THAT WENT WELL AND WE ENDED UP SPENDING $13,000 TODAY 15,000 IN THAT TIRE ROUND-UP.

15,000 AND $5,000 OF IT CAME -- THAT WAS USED FROM THE GRANT.

SO THE REST OF IT IS DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS AND INLAND PARKS WENT TO FUND THE OVERAGE AJ OF THE ROUND-UP.

I STILL NEED A LITTLE MORE FOR THE ILLEGAL DUMPING.

>> THE REASON YOLANDA -- OR WE ARE REQUESTING THIS.

THE TIRE ROUND UP PICKED UP 1500 TIRES AND WEEK AFTER THAT WE FOUND ANOTHER 100 TIRES ON THE SAME SPOT THAT WE PICKED UP TIRES. WE PICKED UP ANOTHER 100 TIRES THAT SOMEBODY LEFT ON THE SEED OF THE ROAD.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: IT'S A CYCLE, MAN.

>> I KNOW, COMMISSIONER. THAT IS THE REASON IT COSTS US

MORE. >> I WAS JUST TRYING TO SAY THAT TIRES IS ONE OF THE HARDEST THING FOR US TO TRY TO -- TO SHARP KEEP TRACK. IT IS VERY, VERY HARD AND FOR US TO -- HOW THIN WE ARE SPREAD, IT'S HARD FOR US TO BE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THIS IS LIKE NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.

IN THE WORLD OF YOU AT LEAST CARE AND YOU ARE INNOVATIVE.

WHY NOT THIS CALENDAR YEAR EXPLORE AN INNOVATIVE IDEA WHERE WE INCENTIVIZE TIRES TO GO TO ONE OTHER LOCATION.

THAT'S -- PEOPLE WALK THE BEACH TO PICK UP CANS, THEY WILL BRING A TIRE TO YOU IF YOU INCENTIVIZE THEM TO DO IT.

A MATHEMATICAL DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT MAKES IT EASIER FOR US -- FOR US TO PAY THEM FOR US TO FUND THE -- THE ZIGZAGGING AROUND. AND THOSE ARE -- AND THOSE PROGRAMS ARE, YOU KNOW -- YOU GUYS BROUGHT IT TO US, ACTUALLY.

YOU ALL ARE THE ONES -- OR SOMEBODY.

>> DISCUSS THIS SEVEN YEARS -- SIX YEARS SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON COURT. I WAS TOLD THE FIRST YEAR THAT IT WAS ILLEGAL. WE CAN'T DO IT IN THE STATE OF

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TEXAS TO DO A TIRE BUYBACK LIKE YOU FIND IN FLORIDA AND OTHER STATES. BUT I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE EASILY BE DONE AS A LOCAL BILL, JUDGE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS A LOCAL BILL.

>>COMMISSONER MAREZ: GET THAT ADDED ON.

IF WE CAN'T DO IT. I DON'T THINK I DIDN'T ASK MISS DORSEY SINCE SHE HAS BEEN ON BOARD TO LOOK TO SEE IF ANYTHING HAS CHANGED WITH THAT. WHEN I FIRST CAME ON, A TIRE BUYBACK -- LIKE THE JUDGE SAID, IT IS INVENT ADVISED IN A LIMITED AMOUNT -- INNOCENTIZED THAT YOU PAY FOR CITIZENS TURNING IN USED TIRES AND THE MAX IS 5 TO AVOID ANY COMMERCIAL PEOPLE DEALING WITH THAT. AND THEN YOU PAY SO MUCH AMOUNT PER TIRE. THIS ACTUALLY IS CHEAPER IN THE LONG RUN BY BUYING THOSE TIRES BACK.

GETTING THEM AT A CERTAIN LOCATION RATHER THAN GO AND HUNT THEM DOWN. AND PEOPLE WOULD GO RATHER TAKE THEM IN THEN DUMP THEM ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT -- I DON'T THINK WE NEED A QUICK ANSWER ON, BUT OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS IF YOU CAN REASSESS THAT AND SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO BECAUSE I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE THAT ADDED ON AS A LINE ITEM FOR BUDGET IF WE CAE CAN'T FIXED BY NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND BE READY TO GO AFTER TH THAT.

>> WE WILL DO THAT >>I WOULD LIKE TO INFORM THE JUDGE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE DID HAVE A DAY OR TWO WHERE THE CITIZENS COULD GO AND DROP OFF THE TIRES AT THE LOCATION.

BUT A FEW OF THEM CHOSE TO DROP THEM BACK AT THE SAME POINT WE PICKED THEM UP. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE

ATTEMPT TO DO IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU ATTEMPTED IT. .

>> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: WHAT WOULD KEEP THE PEOPLE FROM TURNING IT INTO A BUSINESS. WE WILL BE PAYING THEM TO BRING TIRES IN. WHAT WILL GET THEM FROM GOING

BACK TO THROW MORE TIRES OUT? >> I BELIEVE IF THEY GET -- I -- I WAS STILL THINKING IF WE GAVE THEM A LITTLE FURTHER NOTICE, YOU KNOW, IN ADVANCE THAT YOU CAN BRING THE TIRES TO US.

JUST --. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I THINK WE DID THAT ONCE, DIDN'T WE?

>> WE DID. WE ATTEMPTED TO AND I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ENOUGH NOTICE OUT THERE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THE OTHER THING IS -- AGAIN, WE ARE KIND OF DEVIATING AND SINCE WE DON'T GET TO TALK LIKE THIS VERY OFTEN.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> THE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS WILL BE A GREAT PARTNER HERE. THEY MAY EVEN HAVE FUND WHERE THE INCENTIVE COMES FROM AN OUTSIDE AGENCY TO GET THESE TYPE OF ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS, YOU KNOW, OUT WHERE THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE RIGHT PART FOR RECYCLING.COULD BE A BE A WAY THAT WE CAN AVOID THE LAW VIOLATING THE EXISTING LAW.

AND THEY BE THE INCENTIVE -- THEY ARE THE PARTNER AND SOMETHING WE HAVE NOT EXPLORED YET.

AGAIN ON A NATIONAL LEVEL, THIS IS A HUGE CONCEPT.

>> RIGHT, WHERE PART OF THE TIRE ROUND-UP CAME FROM.

. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: REAL QUICK. HAVE WE EVER TRIED PUTTING CAMERAS OR SIGNS OUT THAT JUST SAYS SURVEILLANCE?

>>. >> YOU KNOW, WE GOT -- WE GOT A LITTLE DONATION FOR CAMERAS. WE PUT SOME CAMERAS OUT.

WE HAD ONE SHOT WITH THE SHOTGUN.

WE HAD TWO STOLEN. WE HAD ONE UP ON ROSS ALLEY GONE. WE HAD ONE ON 35, DESTROYED.

SO -- AND IT IS HARD FOR US TO -- YOU KNOW, TAKE THIS MONEY

OUT. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHICH BRINGS ME TO HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING ON THIS.

WE NEED A TAKE A LITTLE BREAK, IS THAT GOOD? WE WILL FINISH AND DO ANNEX LATER AND BUILDING MAINTENANCE LATER. SO GIS.

I KNOW SHE HAS MOVED ON AND OPEN SPOT.

CONSIDER MOVING GIS OUT OF YOUR APARTMENT EVEN IF YOU ARE THE SUPERVISOR. MAYBE WE CAN BE CREATIVE, BUT IF YOU REALLY WANT A MODERN, SMART COUNTY, YOU RECOGNIZE THAT GIS IS A GREAT WAY WITH DRONE TECHNOLOGY TO REALLY GET A SENSE OF WHAT IS GOING ON ESPECIALLY. YOU CAN'T -- IF YOU SHOOT A DRONE, YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF MULTIPLE F AALAWS.

NO DISRESPECT BUT PUTTING IT UNDER Y'ALL'S WING HAS NOT GIVEN US -- IT DOES NOT GIVE THE LALT DUDE THAT WE NEED.

THERE IS AN INTERFACE BETWEEN THE PUBLIC WORKS, THROUGH NEW ROADS AND NEW THAT IS NO DOUBT. IF YOU WANT TO SEE HOW OTHER COUNTIES ARE DOING, SMART COUNTIES.

THEY USE THE TECHNOLOGY FOR ALL APARTMENTS.

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NOBODY KNOW THAT'S PERSON EXISTED.

NOBODY KNOWS IT BECAUSE IT IS STUCK AND IF YOU HIGHLIGHT IT AND BRING IT OUT FRONT AND AGAIN NOT SPENDING A DOLLAR MORE AT THIS MOMENT. BUT THE FUTURE BELONGS TO -- TO

GEOGRAPHICAL INFORMATION. >> JUDGE, THE GIS PERSON THAT WE HAVE STAYS BUSY THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE DAY, BECAUSE WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS TAKING IN DATA FROM THE FILL.

WORK ORDERS AND UPDATE CAN THE DATA ONGIS.

A REASON IT WAS SET ASIDE. AND THIS IS THE REASON WHY IT HAS BEEN IN OUR -- UNDER OUR UMBRELLA WITH TOWARDS DRONES AT THE END OF THE MONTH. A FIVE-DAY COURSE FROM OUR STAFF. BECAUSE WE HAVE A ZONE.

AND THE THROWN WHAT IT DOES IS IT DOES SURVEY ING WE WILL HAVEA FIVE-DAY CLASS AT THE END OF THIS MONTH AND OUR PLAN IS TO GET THE ENVIRONMENTAL ENFORCEMENT, SOME OF OUR STAFF TO GET IS IT CERTIFIED TO BE ABLE TO FLY THE DRONE THROUGH F AAAND ONE-ON-ONE CERTIFICATION. THAT IS IN THE PLAN ALREADY AND WILL BE DONE AT THE END OF THE MONTH.

I KNOW THAT -- THAT PUG GIS FROM US IS GOING TO HURT US AND HURT PUBLIC WORKS AND THEY ARE THE ONES THAT DO MAPPING AND AUTO SAUTOC AD.

GIS IS PART OF AUTO C AD SOFTWARE TO DO SOME OF THESE MAPS. PULLING IT FROM OUR DEPARTMENT

WILL HURT OUR DEPARTMENT WERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: AS USUAL, A JUMP TO CON CLUESES. I AM NOT SUGGESTING THAT IT BE PULLED OUT. YOU NEED GIS TO DO THE WORK YOU SAID IS BEING GONE. BUT THAT IS NOT WHATGIS CAN DO FOR A COUNTY. GIS HAS TREMENDOUS APPLICATIONS, NONE OF WHICH IS BEING UTILIZED HERE.

I AM NOT SUGGESTING THAT YOU LOSE SOMEBODY FOR GIS.

I AM SUGGEST THAT GIS IS ITS OWN ENTITY OF WHICH THEY SEND SOMEBODY TO YOU. IT IS NOT -- IT IS OLD SCHOOL AND IT IS NOT MODERN. AND GIS CAN DO AMAZING THING FOR US ON INFORMATION THAT IS CLEARLY BEING MISSED RIGHT NOW AND THIS IS MY POINT. YOU SHOULD CONSIDER CELEBRATING THE IDEA THAT THERE COULD BE GREATER INFORMATION THAT WILL HELP IN ALL REALMS FROM SOCIAL SERVICES ALL THE WAY TO PUBLIC WORKS. YOU SIT RALEIGH JUST CONFIRMED TO ME WHY I THINK GIS IS BACKWARDS.

NEVERTHELESS, I AM NOT SUGGESTING THAT GIS BE TAKEN FROM PUBLIC WORKS. I AM SUGGESTING THAT GIS IS WAY TOO IMPORTANT TO NEGLECT ITS FUTURE RAMIFICATIONS WHOLE CONFERENCES ONGIS AND UTILIZING THE TECHNOLOGY FOR THE FUTURE.

>> THERE WAS ONE THING, MA'AM. AND TO ANSWER A QUESTION, COMMISSIONER, ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE LOOKING AT IS THE WI-FI CAMERAS. NO JUST THE WI-FI BUT THE

MOBILE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE MOBILE.

>> THEY GO AHEAD AND SNAP IN SUCCESSION OF THREE PHOTOS AND UPLOAD IT ON OUR PHONE AND IF ANYTHING WOULD HAPPEN TO THE CAMERA, IT WOULD UPLOAD THE FILE TO THE CLOUD WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE REALTIME DATA TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED AND WHO DID WHAT SOMETHING THAT WE WILL LOOK INTO.

WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU FOR THAT. I GUESS IT IS A GOOD TIME TO -- THE ANNEX I FEEL HAS SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT.

SO, RIGHT? THE ANNEX.

DO YOU WANT -- WE WILL PAUSE HERE SO WE CAN HAVE OUR REAL LUNCH FROM 12 TO 1:00. SUCH A QUICK.

WE WILL PAUSE -- THAT WAY WHEN WE COME BACK, FULL NOTE, WE WILL DO THE ANNEX AND WE WILL DO THIS BUILDING SUPER.

ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE? >> AND ENGINEERING.

>>JUDGE CANALES: AND ENGINEERING.

A BUSINESS

HE. >>JUDGE CANALES: WILL SOMEBODY

CALL COMMISSIONER MAREZ. >> HE IS ONLINE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S GET STARTED EXACTLY WHERE WE LEFT OFF. WE CAN START OFF WITH -- IF YOU WANT -- YOU CAN PICK, BUT YOU WANT TO DO MIKEN Z+IE ANNEX.

LET'S DO THAT THEN. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, WE ARE

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READY. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: PUT

THE MIC ON. >> WE FORGOT TO PUT IT BACK ON.

>> THANK YOU. OKAY, FOR THE MIKENZIE ANNEX.

WE DO HAVE THE REQUEST FORM. WE ARE BRINGING THE CURRENT FORM INTO A BUILDING SUPERINTENDENT FOR THE OUTLAYING OF BUILDINGS.

HE PRETTY MUCH MANAGES AND COORDINATES ALL THE CONTRACTOS FOR THE FACILITIES OUT IN THE OUTLYING BUILDINGS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT HAPPENED? >> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS JUST FOR THE FOREMAN RIGHT NOW.

I KNOW RIGHT NOW HE IS TAKING CARE OF THE BUILDINGS -- WHAT, WE HAVE 16 BUILDINGS? AND INCLUDING THE PRECINCTS AND ALL THE OTHER BUILDINGS WE MAINTAIN AND THE FOREMAN RIGHT NOW IS IN HEAVILY IN WITH CONTRACTOR TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AC IS ON AND WATER IS RUNNING AND PRETTY MUCH WHAT POSSIBLY DOES FOR THIS COURTHOUSE AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING -- WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THEM TO IT SHALL TO INCREASE THE PAY INCREASE ON THAT ONE.

>> FOR THE FOREMAN? >> TO GO FROM THE FOREMAN TO THE BUILDING FACILITY SUPERINTENDENT FOR THE ONLINE BUILDS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: JUST SO I KNOW. ANYTHING IN BETWEEN AND TITLE

THAT FALLS SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN? >> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: JUST CHECKING. >> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE

ANYTHING IN BETWEEN. >> FROM FOREMAN TO SUPER.

ALL RIGHTY. >> AND THEN NORA WILL DO THE

OPERATING EXPENSES. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, GREAT.

>> THE OPERATING EXPENSES, WE ARE ASKING FOR ONLY $3,000 MORE FOR TOOLS AND REPAIRS FOR THE FIRE EXTINGUISHERS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT. >> YEAH.

AND THEN -- AND WE ARE ALSO ASKING FOR -- LIKE ABOUT $3,000 FOR SOME GENERAL OPERATING SUPPLIES.

AND THAT'S IT. FWHP.

>>JUDGE CANALES: FOR THE FIRE EXTINGUISHERS SHOULDN'T COME OUT OF YOUR BUDGET AT ALL. FOR THE JAIL ITSELF.

IT IS FIRE EXTINGUISHERS FOR THE JAIL --

>> FOR THE MIKINZIE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM GOING TO CIRCLE BUILDING EXTINGUISHERS. OKAY, THAT SOUNDS MODEST.

ANYTHING ELSE FOR US THERE? NOT

NOTHING? >> THAT'S IT FOR THE MCKENZIE ANNEX. WE CAN GO TO BUILDING SUPERINTENDENT WHICH IS 1570. AND ALSO WE HAVE A PERSONAL REQUEST FOR -- LET ME FIND THAT PAGE.

YES, WE ALSO HAVE A PERSONNEL REQUEST FORM FOR -- FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN THE BUILDING SUPERINTENDENT DEPARTMENT 1570.

WE WANT TO BRING THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION -- CONSTRUCTION PROJECT ENGINEER TO BRING HIM UP TO THE SAME GROUP AS OUR MECHANICAL ENGINEER IN OUR ROAD AND BRIDGE DEPARTMENT.

AND WE ARE ASKING ONE MORE HVAC MECHANICAL SYSTEM TECH TO HELP OUT THE CURRENT HVAC. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ONE HERE ON-SITE, HERE AT THE COURTHOUSE, AND THE OTHER ONE TO ASSIST WITH THE OUTLAYING BUILDINGS. AND WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST TWO MORE MECHANICAL MAINTENANCE WOR WORKERS AND FOUR MORE MAINTENANCE WORKERS AND TWO MORE MECHANICAL MAINTENANCE TWO WORKERS AND WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD

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A NEW POSITION TO CUSTODIANS. FOR CUSTODIANS WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CUSTODIANS PERMANENTLY HERE AT THE COURTHOUSE DURING REGULAR OPERATION HOUSES TO ALWAYS HAVE A CUSTODIAN TO BE GOING THROUGHOUT THE COURTHOUSE CLEANING.

WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ONE FROM 7 TO 4 AND ONE FROM 8 TO 5 SO WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE A CUSTODIAN HERE TO BE CLEANING THE REST ROOMS, CLEANING THE ELEVATORS AND STAIRWAYS.

AND MAYBE WHEN WE HAVE THE CONTRACT -- THE JANITORIAL CONTRACT SERVICE, THAT COULD MAYBE CUT DOWN ON SOME COSTS ON

THAT CONTRACT ANY QUESTIONS? >>JUDGE CANALES: TOO MANY, BUT I

WILL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THE MAINTENANCE. IS THAT A NEW PERSON.

>> WHAT IS THAT? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THE

MAINTENANCE. >>THE HVAC MAINTENANCE.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THE ONE THAT WILL WORK AT THE COURT

HOUSE CLEANING. >> THE CUSTODIANS, COMMISSIONERS? DAYTIME CUSTODIANS PRETTY MUCH FROM 7 TO 4:00 THIS THEY CAN COME IN MAINTAIN THE REST ROOMS. MAKE SURE TOILET PAPER IN THE STALLS AND SO THERE AREN'T ANY SPILLS. WE ARE REQUESTING FOUR

COMMISSIONER. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT YOU WANT TO -- YOU WANT TO CONTROL CUSS STOWED Y'ALL VERSUS A CONTRACT. YOU COULDN'T HAVE A CONTRACT AND

THIS IF YOU ARE DOING A SWITCH. >> WE END UP TAKING OVER UNDER PUBLIC WORKS, WE WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE THAT FROM THE CONTRACT.

WHOEVER THE POTENTIAL CONTRACTOR GOING TO BE HAVE THEM WORK FROM 8 TO 5 AND HAVE THE FOUR CUSTODIANS WORKING FROM 8 TO

5:00 CONTINUOUSLY. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S JUST ADDRESS THAT SEPARATELY BECAUSE WE HAVE A RFP OUT.

IT WOULD BE GOOD TO THOUGH THIS BEFORE THE RFP.

AND USE IT TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST.

IT IS NOT JUST THE FOUR PEOPLE. IT IS GOING WHO IS GOING TO DELEGATE THOSE DUTIES. WHO IS GOING TO MANAGE THEM.

>> OUR FACILITY MAINTENANCE MANAGER.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WHO IS THAT? >> UNDER BOBBY.

BOBBY WILL BE OVERSEEING -- IF THEY ARE APPROVED, THEY WILL BE OVERSEEING THESE FOUR CUSTODIANS.

IN ADDITION, WE HAVE STAFF THAT CAN ALSO -- I KNOW BOB PEGGY IS NOT IN. AND OTHER STAFF THAT CAN ALSO OVERSEE THE CUSTODIANS. .

>> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: JUAN. >> YES, SIR.

>> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: DOES THIS ALSO INCLUDE -- WHEN YOU ARE ASKING FOR FOUR CUSTODIANS, INCLUDE A MAID TO SERVICE THE

LADIES REST ROOMS. >> LIKE A DAY PORTER WHO WILL CONTINUOUSLY CLEAN THE REST ROOMS.

. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I KNOW THEY DO NEED THEM. I HAVE SEEN IN THE PUBLIC REST ROOMS WHERE SOME OF THE STALLS DON'T HAVE PAPER AND PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR HELP. SOMEBODY GET THEM PAPER.

SO -- >> YES, SIR.

>> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: MAKE WE CAN SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.

>> YES, SIR. >>JUDGE CANALES: SOURCE ASKING

FOR -- WHAT IS YOUR TOTAL HERE? >> TOTAL, MA'AM, FOR THE

CUSTODIANS. >> FOR THE CUSTODIANS.

>> $121.56. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS BASE.

YOU ARE MISSING BENEFITS. >> CORRECT.

THAT IS BASE, JUST BASE. >>JUDGE CANALES: PLUS YOU ARE MISSING -- WHAT YOU REALLY OUGHT TO DO IF YOU THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA, YOU NEED TO BREAK THAT DOWN INTO ITS OWN BUDGET.

THAT IS HOW IT NEEDS TO BE DONE. YOU NEED TO FACTOR IN BENEFITS, UNIFORMS, SUPPLIES, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT GO IN.

I MEAN, IT IS NOT FOR PEOPLE AND YOU JUST GO TO TOWN.

>> WE CAN DO THAT JUDGE. WE CAN BREAK IT DOWN.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WHY DON'T YOU BREAK IT DOWN AND YOU ARE WELCOME TO BRING IT BACK EVEN THOUGH WE ARE NOT IN BUDGET WORKSHOPS. WE HAVE DATES SET ASIDE TO RECEIVE INFORMATION IN JULY. AND IT WILL GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO GET THAT RFP OUT TO SEE AND TO COMPARE AS TO WHAT IT -- WHAT

IT LOOKS LIKE. >> RIGHT NOW THE FOUR POSITIONS

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PLUS BENEFITS IS $148,144. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT PAY GRADE

SOMEWHAT? >> 12.

>> 13, RIGHT. >> WE HAVE IT AT 12.

>> AT GROUP 13. >>JUDGE CANALES: $14.80 AN HOUR.

>> PAY GROUP. >>.

>> NO IT'S 12. >> IT'S 12? OKAY, I AM LOOKING AT THE WRONG ONE.

>> YES, IT IS 12. OKAY, ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD HERE ON THE CONSTRUCTION ENGINEER? YOU WANT TO SWITCH THEM TO -- TO BE -- WHAT WOULD YOU SAY ON THAT ONE.

>> TO BRING HIM UP. >>JUDGE CANALES: TO THE ME

POSITION TO MAKE IT LEVEL. >> TO MAKE IT LEVEL AM.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT ISBURT RIGHT NOW?

>> YES. >> OKAY. BURT

RIGHT NOW? >> YES.

>> OKAY. >> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS THE HVAC CHEMICAL SYSTEMS TECH 2.

WE HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW. HE IS PRETTY -- I HATE TO SAY IT BUT PRETTY MUCH WORKING 24-7. HE STAYS PRETTYI BUSY, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW WITH THE HEAT AND THE AC IS GOING OUT.

HE IS STAYING BUSY. AND WE ARE -- WE ARE SAVING SOME MONIES BECAUSE WE HAVE HIM STAFFED HERE.

AND BY HAVING ANOTHER ONE, WE CAN PROBABLY SAVE SOME MORE MONIES BY NOT HIRING OUTSIDE CONTRACTOR TO ASSIST US WITH

THEM. >>JUDGE CANALES: AGAIN, WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IS IF YOU BREAK IT DOWN, YOU CAN BASICALLY SHOWCASE THE BUILDINGS THAT THEY ARE RESPONDING TO THE MOST.

SO WE CAN SEE HOW THAT WILL BE APPROPRIATED.

JUST LIKE INSURANCE. IF YOU ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT BUILDING IS COSTING YOU WHAT, YOU CAN PARCEL OUT THOSE DOLLARS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THOSE BUILDINGS AND WHETHER IT COME OUT OF ONE BUDGET. IF IT IS GOING TO BE SERVICING.

LET'S SAY DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU ARE SERVICING.

>> PRECINCT 1 AND 2. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SERVING ALL THE BUILDINGS AND GOING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.

>> THEY WILL BE ROVING EVERYWHERE, YES, SIR.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU NEED A LIST OF ALL THE

BUILDINGS, I GUESS. >> YES, SIR.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THE ONE IS DOING IT ALREADY.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: RIGHT. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST A

COMPANION. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: TO MAKE IT EASIER AND MAKE IT FASTER.

AND DON'T CALL NOBODY IN. >>JUDGE CANALES: ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD. IF NOT, MOVE TO ENGINEERING.

>> THE OPERATING EXPENSE AREA. >> UNDER OPERATING OPERATING SUPPLIES, JUDGE. $7,000 # THE GROUNDS AND FOR THE TABLE AND CHAIRS REQUESTING REPLACEMENT FOR THOSE OWNED

CHAIRS AND TABLES. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE ONE ON THE

SECOND FLOOR? >> NOT REALLY.

THE ONE THEY USE FOR THE EVENTS. >>JUDGE CANALES: OH, THOSE.

>> SPECIAL EVENTS HE. >>JUDGE CANALES: REGULAR TABLE

AND CHAIRS. >> YES.

>>JUDGE CANALES: GOT IT. WE ARE ONLY ASKING FOR 5,000 FOR TOOLS, SUPPLIES AND SOME REPAIRS FOR -- YOU KNOW, EQUIPMENT.

AND THE GASOLINE. THEY PUT ADDITIONAL 5DZ00 JUST FOR -- FOR THE GAS INCREASES RIGHT NOW.

THIS THEY ADDED THAT $# 5 450U7B.

THE ONE FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR.

SOME OF THE BUILDING THAT THEY REQUESTED FOR -- FOR -- LIKE FOR MEDICAL EXAMINER WE PUT LIKE $50,000.

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FOR JUST LIKE THE ONGOING RENOVATIONS AND REPAIRS THAT

THEY ARE GOING ON. >>JUDGE CANALES: BUT WE

APPROPRIATED IT ALREADY. >> AFTER THE FACT, JUDGE, THERE

ARE STILL SMALL REPAIRS THAT -- >> FROM HVAC -- IT CAN BE HVAC TO SIDEWALKS. -- IT CAN BE HVACS, SIDEWALKS, ANYTHING -- ANY PART OF THE MAINT

MAINTENANCE. >> I CAN SAY THAT FOR ANY BUILDING IN THIS WHOLE COUNTY. I DON'T KNOW -- GO AHEAD.

I DON'T -- I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.

I CAN'T DO THAT. BECAUSE YOU WOULD DO THAT TO EVERY BUILDING. YOU CAN'T ANTICIPATE.

YOU WILL JUST HAVE TO COME -- SOMETHING BREAKS, YOU WILL HAVE TO BRING IT TO US.. THAT IS -- WE CAN'T SAY, OH, WE ARE GOING TO APPROACH CREATE WHICH WE JUST IS IT.

WE APPROACH CREATED 50 AND ANOTHER 50, AND, YOU NKNOW FENC UNLESS YOU KNOW SOMETHING, LET'S US KNOW.

>> THE 50 THAT WAS APPROPRIATED WAS FROM THE BUILDING FUNDS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: CORRECT. >> AND OTHER 50 FROM BUILDING.

>>JUDGE CANALES: NOW YOU WANT IT BACK.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHY NOT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S WHAT HE IS DOING.

>> WE KEPT IMPROVING THE FACILITY.

I KNOW IF IT HAPPENS, A NEW BUILDING IS CONSTRUCTED.

IT IS NOT GOING TO BE TOMORROW, RIGHT.

IF YOU WERE LOOKING IN MANAGEMENT STYLE, YOU ARE PROBABLY LOOKING AT A YEAR AWAY IF EVERYTHING GETS APPROVED

TOMORROW. >>JUDGE CANALES: TWO YEARS.

>> YES, MA'AM, DEPENDING ON THE CONTRACT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I AGREE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: GOING

TO NEED A LOT OF REPAIRS. >> WE STILL HAVE SIDEWALKS IN THE FRONT AND PAVE THE FRONT THAT STILL HAVE TO GET DONE AND PART OF THE $50,000 ALSO. IN FAIRNESS, WE PUT $100K,

ANOTHER $50,000 WILL BE GREAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY.

>> WE ARE ASKING FOR THE MCKENZIE ANNEX, ROOF FOR THE THREE BUILDINGS. THE THREE BUILDINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY CORRECTION ALPHA CELT, THE HOPE AND THE WRIGHT BUILDING. THEY REALLY NEEDED A ROOF.

>>JUDGE CANALES: $100,000. >> $100,000.

>> I SUGGEST THAT WE DO THAT BUT WITH COS 21 WHEN WE FINAL -- WHEN IT ALL SHAKES OUT. WE WILL HAVE UNALLOCATED.

I WILL MARK THAT DOWN THAT YOU NEED IT, BUT IT DOESN'T NEED TO COME FROM BUDGET. LET ME WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.

>> OKAY. >> WE HAVE A DIFFERENT SOURCE.

IF IT IS JUST $100,000. A GOOD COST ESTIMATE.

>> PRETTY GOOD. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK WE CAN HELP YOU THERE SO IT DOESN'T EFFECT YOUR BUDGET.

YOU CAN PUT THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE. >> FOR THE HISTORICAL COURTHOUSE HOUSE WE ARE ASKING FOR $125,000 FOR TRASH REMOVAL, CLEANING, LIGHTING AND PAINTING. SO -- $150,000 WE ARE ASKING FOR

THAT ONE. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW I GO THERE ALMOST EVERY OTHER DAY.

AND I WAS GOING TO WRITE AN E-MAIL BUT SINCE I HAVE YOU HERE. BOTTOM FLOOR WEST ENTRANCE.

BOTTOM WINDOWS PLYWOOD IS FALLING THROUGH.

WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. THOSE BOTTOM WEST FACING.

OKAY. I THINK THAT ONE HAS A LOT OF MERIT FROM THE SAFETY AND SECURITY, BUT I AM WONDER GOING MAYBE WE CAN OUT EXPLORE SOMETHING THERE.

I NEED TO -- OKAY. >> FOR THE BUILDING MAINTENANCE -- MECHANICAL MAINTENANCE, JUDGE, WE ARE ASKING $435,000 FOR UPGRADING SOME ELECTRICAL -- ELECTRICAL UPGRADE, SECURITY LIGHTING, FIXTURES, REPLACEMENT OF GRINDERS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THIS ONE HERE, THIS MAIN BUILDING?

>> MAIN BUILDING AND THE JAIL FOR SECURITY LIGHTINGS.

AND GRINDERS. BLADES FOR THE MOTORS.

>> WE NEED IMPROVEMENTS. >> AND ELECTRICAL REPAIRS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I AM FOR ALL OF THOSE THINGS TOO.

>> AND CLEANING OF THE AC VENTS. >>JUDGE CANALES: CLEANING OF

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THE AC VENTS. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST

THROUGHOUT? >> THROUGHOUT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: CONTAINED IN THAT 435 NUMBER?

>> CORRECT. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: 435.

>>JUDGE CANALES: PLUS THE 100, 435.

I THINK ALL OF THAT IS NECESSARY AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN USE ELECTRICAL UPGRADES ALSO FOR THE COS IF THAT IS POSSIBLE.

I THINK IT COULD BE POSSIBLE. OKAY.

. >> AND THEN CALDERON ROOF PLACEMENT AND ALSO FLOORS TO REPLACE IS.

>> WHAT IS THE COST ON THE FLO

FLOORS? >> 60,000.

FOR THE ROOF IT IS LIKE 700. >>JUDGE CANALES: I KNOW, THAT IS

THE KILLER. >> WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HAD THE 60K IS JUST FOR THE TAX OF

OFFICE. >>JUDGE CANALES: OH, THEY HAVE

CARPET. >> YES.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. LAST ONE THE KITSCH LIBRARY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: SO MUCH BETTER BEFORE LUNCH.

GO AHEAD. >> UPDATES FOR THE CHILLERS FOR THEA THEAC AND ALSO ASKED ME FOR FLOORS. REPLACEMENT OF FLOORS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES THAT HAVE THE CARPET. I LOOKED AT IT, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN PHASE IT IN IF YOU ARE DOING THE CALDERON TAX OFFICE.

MAYBE BUY ENOUGH. THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE.

DO YOU CONTRACT THAT OUT OR DO IT YOURSELF.

>> WE CONTRACT IT OUT. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU ARE IN THE SAME CITY WITH ONE CONTRACTOR. MAY WORK BETTER TO PIECEMEAL IT THAN THE SAME TIME. THE VHVAC ON THE CHILLER, WHAT

IS THAT? >> 890,000.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN THIS YEAR.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN ALL OF THESE ARE NOT BUDGET REQUESTS, THEY ARE.

BUT THEY ARE REALLY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT REQUESTS THE REASON IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE IF WE CAN WORK THE CO, THESE ARE TYPE OF ACTIVITIES THAT NEED TO BE BROUGHT FORTH SO WE KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ADDS 5 MILLION SOFTWARE PROBLEM. WE HAVE A $10 MILLION COUNTY PROBLEM THAT IF THAT CHILLER GOES DOWN OR A ROOF GOES DOWN, YOU CAN'T FUNCTION. SO FOR ME, I KNOW YOU PUT THEM IN BUDGET TO GET OUR AWARENESS AND THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL, BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THEM PLACED IN OUR IMMEDIATE NEEDS OF IF THERE IS ANY UNALLOCATED. THAT I DO THINK THERE IS GOING TO BE. BUT WE MAY HAVE TO CHOOSE WHICH ROOF. I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO TWO ROOFS. AT LEAST NOT ONE CALENDAR YEAR.

WHICH ONE IS IN WORST SHAPE, JUAN.

CALDERON AND KITSCH. >> I RECOMMEND CALDERON.

>> AND NEXT YEAR KEECH. >> NOT KEECH LIBRARY -- ONLY

FLOOR, NOT THE ROOF. >>JUDGE CANALES: HVAC, FOR GIVE

ME. >> NEEDING ROOF ARE THE MCKENZIE. THE THREE OFFICES.

>>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT. THE CORRECTIONIAL.

THE 100,000 THAT IS NOT SO MUCH THAT IS GOOD AWARENESS COMPREHENSIVELY. WELL, YOU ARE THE BIGGEST DEPARTMENT SO YOU HAVE THE BIGGEST NEEDS.

THAT IS JUST HOW IT WORKS. OKAY.

WELL FOR FEAR THAT IT GETS WORSE FROM HERE DID WE CHOOSE WISELY,

IS ENGINEERING NEXT? >> WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT ONE

FIRST. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS WHAT I AM THINKING. GO AHEAD.

THAT IS WHAT I THOUGHT WHEN I REMEMBERED.

GO AHEAD. IT IS ALL RIGHT.

YOU PREPPED US AS WELL. >> JUDGE, ASKING FOR $6,000 FOR BETHESDA TESTING AND ANALYSIS AND INSPECTIONS AND SCNAP $6,000 FOR UNIFORMS AND RENTAL FOR ALL NOSE UNIFORM THINGS JUST 6,000

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AS WE ARE ASKING. THE OTHER SERVICES WE ARE ASKING FOR 60,000 FOR MOVING FURNITURE WHEN THEY ARE DOING THE FLOOR.

MOST OF THEM WANT TO ADD, YOU NKNOW FOR THE SERVICES.

>>THE CONTRACTORS WANT TO ADD. SOMETIMES THEY DON'T WANT TO DO

IT. >> EXACTLY.

>> OKAY. AND TRAINING FOR THE TECHNICIANS, 3,000 ADDITIONAL JUST FOR TRAINING AND SIMILAR.

AND THAT'S IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, WELL -- WE ARE READY TO -- OKAY, IS THAT GOOD.

WE CAN TRANSITION NOW? GO AHEAD.

>> NOW WE ARE GOING TO DO TO -- WE ALSO HAVE A PERSONNEL REQUEST FORM FOR ENGINEERING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

WE HAVE FOR THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND WE ARE ALSO ASKING FOR TWO PROJECT MANAGES TO ASSIST WITH THE -- HAVE KNOWLEDGE FOR REQUIREMENTS NEEDED FOR THEADA ACCESSIBILITIES AND PROJECT RENOV

RENOVATIONS. >>JUDGE CANALES: ANYTHING ELSE?

>> 133 FOR BOTH PROJECT MANAGERS.

>> YES, SIR. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: OKAY, THA THANKS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THIS IS PEOPLE THAT YOU WOULD HIRE FOR A TIME FRAME. OR WHILE YOU ARE DOING THIS BIG ADA OR YOU ARE THINKING THAT THIS IS FOREVER.

>> HOPEFULLY FOREVER BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME PROJECTS COMING OUT AND I KNOW WE HAD SOME ROAD PROJECTS COMING OUT.

AND YOU CAN MULTIUSE THEM AND OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR STAFF. SO WE WILL KEEP THEM BUSY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHTY. OKAY.

WHAT ELSE. MISS YOLANDA, WHAT ELSE DO YOU

SEE THERE? >> OPERATING.

I HAVE OPERATING BUDGET FOR ENGINEERING.

LET ME FIND THAT PAGE. WHERE IS MY PAGE.

1 121.

FOR SOME REASON I DON'T HAVE THE OPERATING PAGE FOR THE ENGINEERING, BUT THINK OUR SORRY.

PAPERWORK AND ENGINEERING. >> FOR THE PRAELTING.

THE MAIN THING I HAD FOR OPERATING EXPENSES FOR ENGINEERING WAS WE ARE NEEDING TO ARCHIVE AND DO THE INDEXING OF ALL THE MAPS THAT WE HAVE NOT ONLY IN OUR OFFICE BUT A STORAGE ROOM WHERE WE HAVE TENS OF FILING CABINETS THAT HAVE MAPS IN FOLDERS AND WE HAVE MORE MAPS THAT ARE IN HANGERS AND FILING CAB CABINETS AND WE REACHED OUT TO A COMPANY CALLED CO-FILE. JUST TO HELP US TO SEE HOW MUCH IT WILL COST TO START INDEXING AND PUTTING THE MAPPING AND THEY GAVE US A QUOTE OF 185,000 JUST TO START.

AND WE -- JUST TO START -- JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHAT IT TAKES FOR US TO START INDEXING AND OR CHIVING.

>> HAS IT BEEN DONE. >> NO.

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>> AND WE FINALLY GOT TO LOCATE SOMEBODY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: DARYL IS SAYING LIKE MAYBE HE CAN TALK TO YOU.

>> WE HAVE BEEN TALK TO DARYL. THIS IS BEFORE WE TALKED TO DARYL. AND WE HAVE BEEN COORDINATING WITH DARYL AFTERWARDS AND I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT AND WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND KIND OF SHOWED HIM ALL OUR FILES THAT WE WANT TO GET SCANNED IN.

SO DARYL IS HELPING US OUT. >> WE HAD ALREADY DONE THIS

BEFORE WE TALKED TO DARYL. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY.

GOT IT. OKAY.

WHAT ELSE DO WE GOT? THAT'S IT?

>> THAT'S IT. THAT WAS OUR MAIN THING FOR

ENGINEERING. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WENT THROUGH A TON AND GLAD WE GAVE YOU IT BEFOREHAND BECAUSE WE NEEDED IT.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

'. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL GO ON TO THE NEXT ONE.

JUST GIVE ME A SECOND BECAUSE I TU

TURNED. >>JUDGE CANALES: NEXT WE HAVE DARYL AND HE HAS MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS UNDER HIS WING: I.T., RECORDS MANAGEMENT, COUNTY RECORDS.

AFTER DARYL, WE WILL HAVE RISK MANAGEMENT AND CDC.

MY WISH IS FOR YOU TO LET THEM KNOW THEY REALLY SHOULD JUST BE HERE, YOU KNOW, 20 MINUTES BEFORE THEIR SCHEDULED TIME.

JUST TO BE EXTRA CAUTIOUS. OKAY, THANKS, DARYL.

>> WHAT ORDER YOU WANT US TO BRING UP.

THIS ONE AND THAT ONE AND THAT ONE.

>> THIS ONE AND THAT ONE SOMEWHAT SIMULTANEOUSLY.

>> TRICKIER TO PUT THEM UP WITH THE SHARED SCREEN, BUT I WILL TRY. DON'T BOUNCE AROUND TOO MUCH.

>>. >> I DID NOT, BUT I CAN FORWARD

THEM THE E-MAILS. >>JUDGE CANALES: AND DARYL, WHENEVER YOU ARE READY, YOU CAN START.

WHENEVER. >> OKAY, CONNIE, IF YOU PUT UP THE TRUNK. THE 420 TRUNK FILE THERE FIRST.

>> CAN YOU GO TO THE FIRST PAGE? >> NO.

>> ALL RIGHT. THEN THE NEXT PAGE.

>>HOVER OVER -- THE PACKET OF PAGE 3 THAT WAS SENT TO THEM.

THE PERSONAL REQUEST FORM FIRST THAT CORRELATES TO THE FIRST DOCUMENT THAT YOU WERE GIVEN ON THE STARTS OFF WITH THE I.T.

ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE. WHEN I CAME IN, THE I.T.

DEPARTMENT WAS SPLIT BETWEEN APPLICATIONS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND THEN AND THE DEPUTYCIO. SO THAT SPLIT FORM OF OPERATING AND OF A ONE STRUCTURE TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT.

AND SO KIND OF READING OFF OF THIS DOCUMENT HERE, THE MORE EFFECTIVE APPROACH. WE -- WITH THOSE TWO STRANDS,

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APPLICATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT, OF COURSE, WILL HAVE TO HAVE TWO MANAGER POSITIONS OR REACH ONE.

AT THE CIO AND DEPUTY CIO LIKE HAVING FOUR MANAGERS IN THE I.T.

DEPARTMENT. SINCE WE ARE MORE TECHNICALLY DRIVEN, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS SPLIT OUT.

AND SO THE # -- ONE OF THE MANAGERS.

THE ONE THAT IS OVER APPLICATIONS, WE WANT TO RELIEVE OF MANAGING PERSONNEL AND BE MORE INVOLVED IN MANAGING PROJECTS SO MORE TECHNICALLY ORIENTED AND A BETTER I.T.

BACKGROUND THAT CAN HELP BETTER. THE OTHER MANAGER POSITION WILL GET REDEFINED AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL POSITIONS AS WE MOVE ON. BUT IT WILL SERVE ALSO AS HEAD OFI 1, OPERATION SO AS IT BRINGS ALL THE ENTIRE I.T. STAFF ALL TOGETHER AS A DEPARTMENT, BUT THAT IS PHYSICALLY WELL, BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN SPLIT AND HE WANT TO GET EVERYBODY BACK TO ONE SIDE OF THE FACILITY AND FORM A STRONGER TEAM AND EVERYBODY WILL HAVE EXPANDED ROLES WITHIN I.T. OPERATIONS TO MAKE US MORE EFFECTIVE EQUALLY BUSY AS IN VERY BUSY.

THAT IS KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF HOW OUR ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE IS AND HOW IT TIES INTO OUR POSITION CHANGES THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. SO WHAT I AM ASKING AND I ONLY HAVE ONE PERSONNEL REQUEST FORM WHICH IS OUT OF THE 1240 BUDGET.

SO NONE OF THE OTHER BUDGETS WILL BE HAVING THEIR FORMS ON AND EVERYTHING IS ON THIS ONE FORM.

SO WHAT I WANT -- WHAT I WILL BE ASKING FOR.

AND I KNOW THAT IN TALKING ABOUT THESE POSITIONS, THE -- SOME OF THE CLEANUP AFTER THIS WON'T GET BACK INTO THE JULY DISCUSSIONS AND I WILL BE SPEAK WITH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND THE HR DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS WE WORK ON THESE POSITION DESCRIPTIONS AND SALARIES WE ARE LOOKING AT OF HOW IT AFFECTS BUDGET.

LOOKING AT THE MAN INJURY AND NETWORK SERVICES TO GET RID OF THAT POSITION AND REPLACE IT WITH THE CHIEF INFORMATION SECURITY OFFICER OR ASISO. A MODERN POSITION THAT IS EXTREMELY POPULAR ACROSS THE WHOLE GLOBE AND THE PRIMARY SECURITY PEOPLE GETTING THE POSITION IN THE COUNTY AND MORE SPECIFICALLY WHERE IT FORMS A LOT OF PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE. AND HOMELAND SECURITY AND THESE SISO-RELATED PEOPLE AND AFFILIATED WITH ONE ANOTHER AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY WORK WITH THESE PEOPLE WHO YOU ARE WORK WITH AN ACTUAL CYBER SECURITY COMPANY THAT LEADS TO GETTING CYBER SECURITY INSURANCE. AND WHERE YOU GET THE BEST RATES. YOU ARE BLESSED WITH THE WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT DEAL WITH CYBER SECURITY AND A REAL GOOD POSITION TO BE IN. HOW THEY GREW UP IN FIELD IN NETWORKING BECAUSE CYBER SECURITY GOES TO ALL OF THIS.

SO DON'T BE MISREAD THAT ALL THEY DO IS CYBER SECURITY AND OVERSEE THE I.T. OPERATIONS. AND WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WILL FILL THE ROLE AS THE SISO PERSON HAS A LOT OF QUALIFICATIONS AND EVERYTHING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE WE NEED TO BE DOING THAT. I AM LOOKING AT LIFT THIS POSITION NOW TO GET IT REDUCE INTO THE COUNTY.

COMPENSATE THIS PERSON INTO WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND EVEN MORE SO WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE DOING BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THIS THROUGH THE REST OF THE REQUEST FISCAL YEAR AND THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE END OF THAT ONE, WE WILL BE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.

I WILL BE KICK IN COMING WITH YOU WITH THE ARPA FUNDING BIDS THAT ARE GOING TO COME IN AND THERE WILL BE MOVEMENT ALONG BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

AND LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING IT THERE.

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>>JUDGE CANALES: DARYL, I AM IMAGINING -- YOU ARE REALLY REIMAGINING THIS OFFICE. ARE PEOPLE ENJOYING THIS CONSOLIDATION? I KNOW -- YOU HAVE ENOUGH SPACE.

IT HAS TO THE TO BE GREAT FOR MORALE.

WHAT CAN YOU TELL ABOUT THAT. BECAUSE THAT IS A HUGE SHIFT.

>> YES, THEY ALL HAVE BEEN VERY ACCEPTING OF IT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: GREAT. >> THEY WERE SPOKEN TO INDIVIDUALLY AND WE BROUGHT EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO TELL THEM WHAT WAS GOING ON. AFTER THAT FOLLOWED UP WITH THE ONE ON ONE VISITS. AND EVERYBODY WAS VERY ACCEPTABLE OF IT BECAUSE LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO MORE THINGS AND I THINK SOME OF THOSE WEREN'T AS BUSY AS THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE. AND MOST I.T. PEOPLE LIKE TO STAY WITH USE AND THAT IS THE ATTITUDE WE GOT OUT OF THEM.

IT WAS VERY POSITIVE. >>JUDGE CANALES: HOW MANY

VACANCIES DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE. >> NONE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WHEN YOU CAME IN YOU HAD SOME VACANCIES AND YOU DID A GOOD JOB OF FILLING THEM.

>> ACTUALLY WE HIRED ONE PERSON -- MOVED ONE PERSON.

ONLY ONE NEW PERSON COME IN SINCE I HAVE BEEN HERE.

AND EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE HAPPY. >>JUDGE CANALES: GOOD.

>> WHEN WE COME TOGETHER EVERYBODY WILL LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER TOGETHER. AND AS I MENTIONED TO YOU IN THE CAPITAL OUTLAY, WE ARE LOOKING INTO BRINGING IN THE CUBICLE WORK STATION DESIGN CUBICLES, BUT WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT AND CAPITAL OUTLAY THAT WILL GO WITH EVERYBODY BEING HAPPY # BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE A GOOD WORK ENVIRONMENT.

THAT IS IT IN THIS POSITION. WE ARE ASKING FOR A TWO GROUP INCREASE ON THIS PERSON IS WHAT WE ARE COMING FORWARD AFTER WE WORK WITH THEHR AND THE -- AND IT IS LIST IN THERE AND THE CHANGE IS NOT TOO SIGNIFICANT. AND ANOTHER NEW POSITION THAT I AM WANTING TO BRING IN IS A NETWORK ENGINEER.

WE JUST GOT THESE TWO POSITIONS IN NETWORKING.

ONE OF THEM IS A SENIOR NETWORK SPECIALIST KIND OF ON TOP OF THE NETWORKING AREA AND THAT IS THE POSITION.

A NETWORK ENGINEER. CALL THEM WHAT THEY ARE.

HE IS REALLY GOOD WITH WHAT HE DOES AS WELL.

THAT HAS GOT A TWO GROUP SET-UP ON IT THAT DOES NOT RAISE IT TOO MUCH THERE FOR HIM AND KEEP THE SENIOR NETWORK SPECIALIST AND I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE PERSON WHO IS AT RIGHT NOW A NETWORK SPECIALIST. HE HAS COME A LONG WAYS AND PERFORMING -- HE IS WORKING INDEPENDENTLY QUITE A BIT AND WE WANT HIM TO STAY AROUND AND CONTINUE TO GROW WITH THE COUNTY THE FOURTH ONE THERE WHICH IS COVERING THE SYSTEMS ANALYST POSITION THE -- THIS RIGHTS HERE IS MORE OF A PARITY MOVE.

WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS IN SYSTEMS ANALYSIS.

HE HAS BEEN IN I.T. FOR 20 YEARS, AND WITH THE COUNTY FOR OVER TEN YEARS AND YOU CAN HE IS ACTUALLY A STEP SIX LEVEL WITH THE COUNTY AND THE LAST LINE THERE SAYS IT ALL.

THIS IS THE MOST ADVANCED AND VERSATILE ANALYST THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW. ON A LOT OF PROJECTS AND KIND OF ALL OVER THE PLACE. AND HE -- HE HANDLE IT IS QUITE AS WELL. THE LAST ONE ON THERE IS SYSTEM ANALYST WHO IS RETIRING. LOSE ONE FOR RETIREMENT.

JACKIE HIGHFIELD. WE MAY NOT GET TO SEE HER MUCH.

SHE HAS GOT TO USE UP SOME VACATION TIME.

HER FINAL DAY WILL BE AROUND JUNE 30.

AND SHE WILL -- LIKE I SAID, THEY WILL BE BURNING UP VACATION TIME BECAUSE SHE PROBABLY NEEDS TO COME THROUGH HERE WITH LITTLE BIT OF RECOGNITION. SHE HAS BEEN WITH THE COUNTY FOR OVER 30 YEARS. STARTED -- SHE WAS IN THE DISTRICT'S CLERK'S OFFICE WHEN I WAS HERE PREVIOUSLY AND SHE HAS DONE QUITE A WONDERFUL JOB FOR THE COUNTY.

AND SHE WILL BE HIGHLY MISSED. BUT I HAVE ENOUGH SYSTEM ANALYSTS. JUST THESE TWO THAT I HAVE ON HERE LISTED THE SYSTEM ANALYST IN THE DEPARTMENT AND WE OVERSEE A LOT OF APPLICATIONS AND SYSTEM ANALYST WITH THAT TITLE.

THEY ARE FAIR GAME FOR JUST ABOUT DOING ANYTHING SO WHAT I WANT TO DO WITH THIS RATHER THAN HIRING ANOTHER SYSTEMS ANALYST WHEN JACKIE RETIRES, I ALREADY WORK WITH THEHR WITH THE

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POSITION. IT GETS A LITTLE LENGTHY THERE BUT IT COVERS A LOT OF TERRITORY ESPECIALLY THE AUDIOVISUAL INTERACTIVE INTEGRATION SPECIALIST.

ON MY RIGHT UP THERE, THE MAIN THING TO LOOK AT IS WE WILL FILL THE ROLE OF AV, WEB, ZOOM, VOIP. ALL OF THESE AREAS INTEGRATE AND I CAME IN AND WE HAVE PRETTY ELABORATECOURT.

THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WITH EMERGENCY OPERATIONS.

WE WANT TO DO THE SAME THING FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS.

THE KUSHGZEETCH FAMILY LIBRARY. AND THE LIST GOES ON THERE AND YOU WILL SEE THAT MORE IN CAPITAL OUTLAY WHERE WE WILL LOOK AT THE LIST OF THOSE AND KIND OF PRIORITIZE.

THE REAL THING HERE IS ABOUT THAT WE BRING IN THESEAV YOUTH SOURCING COMPANIES THAT HAVE TURNKEY OPERATIONS.

LIKE IN HERE, THEY ARE FROM WAY OUT OF TOWN AND SET UP THESE REAL ELABORATE SYSTEMS. AND THEY ARE GONE.

SO AS SOON AS YOU HAVE AN ISSUE YOU WANT SOMETHING ELSE IN.

SOMETHING BREAKS. SOMETHING MAY SEEM LIKE IT IS NOT WORKING RIGHT. WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT OPERATES BETTER. A LOT OF TIME IT HAPPENS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A FUNCTION THAT IS GOING ON ANDIT GETS CALLED AND WE MAY ACTUALLY GET LOST ON IT.

BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT EVERYTHING, YOU SEE WHAT YOU USE MOSTLY IN HERE, BUT IF YOU LOOK IN THE CEILING AND THROUGHOUT ALL OF THIS CABLES RUNNING AROUND WHERE YOU ARE SITTING FROM. A COM CLOSET OUTSIDE THE DOORS AND EQUIPMENT AND WIRES AND EVERYTHING GOING EVERYWHERE.

IT CAN GET CONFUSING REAL FAST. EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND THE COUNTY IS A SUBSET OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN HERE IN SOME FORM AND FASHION. BUT SOME OF THESE OTHER AREAS WE WANT TO DO. A CENTURY JURY ROOM MENTION ADDING A SYSTEM LIKE THIS. SO WHEN WE HAVE COMMISSIONER COURT MEETING WITH AGENDA ITEM TO PACK ON AN AUDIENCE AND DOING A FORM AND A BIGGER AREA. WE HAVE OUR OWN AREA THAT IS DESIGNED FOR IT AND READY TO DO IT.

I AM KIND OF LOOKING FOR A POSITION HERE THAT COMES IN WITH A BACKGROUND IN THAT. AND THEY WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE COMPANIES THAT ARE INSTALLING AND WE STILL HAVE TO PIE THE EQUIPMENT AND HAVE PEOPLE COME IN AND PUT IT OUT.

SET IT ALL UP. BUT THIS PERSON WILL BE DIRECTLY INVOLVED AND WOULD LIKE A PROJECT SO THEY FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS SET UP. THEY KNOW HOW TO OPERATE IT.

THEY KNOW WHEN TO TRAIN ON IT. THEY KNOW WHEN THINGS NEED TO BE UPDATED AND START INTEGRATING ALL THESE OTHER ITEMS. THE WHOLE THING IS NOT ONLY ABOUT AV OPERATIONS WHERE WE ARE DOING PRESENTATIONS OR HAVING MEETINGS AND SUCH, BUT WE ALSO DEAL WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE WANT TO GET OUT TO CONST CONSTITUENTS.

I TALKED ABOUT WITH THE ARPA AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE EXPANSION IS TO GET US OUT AND ALL OF OUR COUNTY FACILITIES FOR BE BETTER THRUPUT AND WE WANT TO GET INTO THE DIGITAL SYSTEM LIKE LARGE SMART TELEVISION TO DISSEMINATE INFORMATION OUT ON THESE SYSTEMS AND PEOPLE, WHEN THEY START CATCHING ON TO THIS, A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE CAN GET FROM THESE SYSTEMS AND IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MORE INFORMATION YOU HAVE GOING OUT, THE LEST PEOPLE YOU HAVE GOING IN AND FIND THINGS OUT.

SO THAT IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT ARE AND I HAVE SEEN SOME THINGS AROUND THE COURTHOUSE THAT SOME THINGS I WORKED WITH IN THE PAST AND THEY ARE NOT WORKING RIGHT. AND WE NEED TO UPGRADE THOSE AND THEY ARE ABOUT -- INFORMATION DISSEMINATION.

AND I GOT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO MANY EMPLOYEES THAT DON'T USE E-MAIL AND CAN'T RECEIVE INFORMATION THAT WE SENT OUT FOR EMPLOYEES. AND THEY, THEMSELVES, CAME UP WITH AN IDEA THAT WE ARE ALREADY THINKING ABOUT.

SO WE IMMEDIATELY GOT IN SYNC ON THAT.

WHAT IS INTERESTING THERE, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE OFFICE ON COMPUTER AND E-MAILS AND THEY FIND OUT THAT THEY DON'T NEED IT. THEY DON'T USE IT.

DON'T HAVE TIME TO USE IT. WE ARE IN JAIL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM ALL DAY LONG DOING OUR STUFF THERE.

THEY HAVE E-MAILS, AND THEY DON'T RECEIVE INFORMATION JUST SO THEY DON'T USE IT AND LOOK AT THE DISPLAY THAT ARE SCROLLING AND HAVE AVAILABLE THE INFORMATION THAT HR OR SOMEBODY WANT GIVE OUT TO EMPLOYEES. SO IT IS A VERY BUSY POSITION THAT I AM LOOKING AT DOING HERE. AND I THINK IT IS KIND OF WAY

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OVERDUE. AND WE WILL SEE THINGS HAPPEN FASTER WHEN WE WORK LIKE THAT UP AND ACTUALLY AS LONG AS JACKIE HAS BEEN HERE. YOU WILL SEE THIS IS ACTUALLY A DECREASE IN SALARY TO REPLACE THE SYSTEMS ANALYST WITH THIS AV POSITION. AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PERSONNEL REQUEST FORM, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE TOTAL THERE WITH THE BENEFITS IS $16,230 TO MAKE THIS WHAT ALL OF THESE POSITIONS.

I DON'T THINK I AM ASKING FOR TOO MUCH TO HELP WITH US OUR RESTRUCTURES EFFORT THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH PG AND RETAINING AUTHORITIES. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PERSONNEL PART OF IT? ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR

PERSONNEL. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL GIVE YOU ONE MORE TALKING POINT TO ADD TO YOUR ARSENAL.

THAT IS, IN ORDER TO DEPLOY THE $2.5 MILLION.

THIS IS THE WORKSHEET TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

AND SO, I JUST -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BUDGET IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. I AM PREDICT IT TO BE TERRIBLE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MAY THINK OF AT LEAST FOR ONE YEAR IS TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THIS TARRED ARPA BECAUSE $16,000, DELTA, KNOWING THAT NEXT YEAR TO WILL BE A MUCH BETTER YEAR MOST LIKELY TO ABSORB IT. BUT THIS IS THE MONEY YOU NEED -- YOU GOT TO MAKE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN YOUR REORGANIZATION AND DEPLOYING THAT $2.5 MILLION.

YOU JUST DID IT. NOW I AM SUGGESTING YOU LINK IT UP. AT LEAST THAT IS HOW I WOULD

VIEW IT AS BEING A SMART MOVE. >> YES, DEFINITELY WONDERFUL TO HAVE IT AS AN OPTION TO PUT OUT THERE.

TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING AND SEE HOW IT ALL LOOKS.

YES, THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

WHERE DO WE GO NEXT? >> CONNIE, GO TO THE 1240 BUDGET SHEET NOW. AND FOR THE HANDOUT I GAVE.

THAT WILL BE THE SECOND PAGE NOW THAT WELL, GOT THE 1240 BUDGET.

COLOR-CODED ON A COUPLE OF LINES.

THAT IS THE ONE RIGHT HERE, AND YOU CAN HAVE THIS ONE READY, CONNIE, TO BRING UP -- EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE IT IN FRONT OF THEM. BUT WE WILL GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY AND SHOW THE PAGE NUMBER ON THIS JUST IN CASE.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IT IS ON THE TABS.

THAT ONE? OKAY.

>> YEAH, THAT IS THE ONE RIGHT THERE.

IN YOUR PACKET, OF COURSE, YOU GOT THE -- THE SPREADSHEET VIEW THAT LISTS OUT EVERYTHING ON THE 1240 BUDGET.

AND I BRING BOTH OF THEM BECAUSE YOU WILL SEE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENCE IN INFORMATION, BUT THEN IT IS NOT TOO DIFFERENT EITHER SO I WANTED TO COVER THE ONE SO -- WHEN YOU ARE HOOKING AT WHAT IS IN YOUR PACKET FOR THE 1240 BUDGET.

WHERE UNDER THE '22-'23 ITEMIZATION JUST LEFT OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET, YOU SEE THE OVERALL BUDGET OF $1,530,105.

THEN WE FOLLOW THAT WITH AN INCREASE FOR CONNECT WISE SOFTWARE AND THEN FOLLOWED BY WHAT IS CALLED A MICROSOFT TRUE-UP. I AM GOING TO LIST THESE OUT AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THEM. AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS YES.

ON THERE, A SECOND PAGE TO THIS THAT HAS THE 37,500 THAT TALKS OF ADDING GRANICUS ENGAG ENGAGEMENT, HQ.

WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT INDEPENDENTLY AND THE BIGGEST ONE TYLER TECHNOLOGIES. $74,733.

SO OUT OF THOSE FOUR ITEMS THAT WE ARE SHOWING RAISED, THIS SHEET THAT -- CONNIE, IF YOU CAN GO TO THIS PAGE RIGHT HERE.

THE OTHER ONE YOU HAVE UP THERE. >> THAT ONE.

>> YES. THIS SHEET REFLECTS THE REALISTIC. NOT THE GRANICUS HQ.

I WILL TALK ABOUT IT MORE UNDER THE CAPITAL OUTLAY.

IT IS AN ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE WHERE EVERYTHING ELSE ON HERE IS ABOUT COST INCREASES AND SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE OBVIOUSLY REALLY NEED TO DO. YOU CAN SEE WHERE I RAN A SLIGHT DEFICIT OF 25,892 DOLLARS THAT REQUIRED A BUDGET CHANGE ORDER

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AND SO THE -- SO WHEN YOU LOOK BELOW THAT.

AND ADD THAT DEFICIT TO THE TYLER INCREASE AND THEN THERE IS THAT 2.5% COST INCREASE. 2.5% OF EVERYTHING THAT WE KNOW WE ARE GOING TO BE RENEW ING WITHOUT FACTOR IN TYLER BECAUSE THAT ONE IS SO HIGH WE PUT THAT IN THERE INDIVIDUALLY FOR VIEWING. BUT THIS INCREASE RIGHT HERE ACTUALLY ABSORBED WHAT YOU SAW IN THE PREVIOUS PAGE OUT OF YOUR POCKET THAT LISTED THE MICROSOFT TRUE UP AND THE CONNECT WISE SOFTWARE. THAT CONNECT WHY IS THE SOFTWARE THAT REPLACED TEAM VIEWER. WHAT I.T. USES TO REMOTELY CONNECT TO USERS' COMPUTERS WHEN THEY HAVE A PROBLEM.

MANY TIMES WE CAN CONNECT THEIR PROBLEM IN THE FLY BY CONNECTING TO IT. A VERY IMPORTANT TOOL FOR I.T.

A MINOR INCREASE AND THE TOOL PROVIDES US WITH MORE FUNCTIONALITY. ONE OF THOSE IS INVENTORY OF CERTAIN ASSETS WE HAVE ON OUR NETWORK SOME WHAT WE ARE REALLY LOOKING AT HERE BECAUSE YOU DON'T ALWAYS SEE WHAT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO DO BECAUSE THESE RENEWALS COME OUT THROUGHOUT THE FISCAL YEAR. WHAT I PUT IN HERE INSTEAD IS A 2.5% COST INCREASE FOR EVERYTHING ELSE THAT CAME TO 22,595. BY DOING IT LIKE THAT.

I KNOW I AM COVERING WHATEVER COMES UP.

I WANT TO MENTION THE MICROSOFT TRUE UP THAT I HAVE $10,000 WRITTEN ON THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR, I HAVE TO PAY $35,000 TO MICROSOFT FOR A PREVIOUS THREE-YEAR AGREEMENT THAT WE H HAVE.

A TRUE UP WHENEVER WE BUY INTO MICROSOFT FOR THREE YEARS.

STILL A PRESCRIPTION AND PAY A FIXED PRICE.

A FIXED PRICE ALL THREE YEARS AND DON'T HAVE IT GOING UP, AND BASED ON THE NUMBER OF USERS AND WHAT TYPE OF LICENSES YOU ARE GETTING AND THEY DON'T MAKE IT EASY AND WE ARE GOING TO BUY A WHOLE LOT OF LICENSES, MEANING WE GET A WHOLE LOT OF PROJECTS WHETHER WE USE IT OR NOT. THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE THE OUTLOOK. WE ARE USING OTHER TOOLS FOR DOING ANOTHER TYPE OF ASSET INVENTORY AND ALSO USING FOR OUR OUTLOOK, MULTIFACTOR AUTHENTIFICATION.

PART OF CYBER SECURITY AND WORKS IN THAT RESPECT TOO.

THE TRUE UP IS WHERE YOU ADDED MORE PEOPLE THROUGHOUT ONE OF THE YEARS OR MORE YEARS. YOU ADDED MORE LICENSES THAT YOU DIDN'T PAY FOR AT THE TIME. SO AT THE END OF THE DETERMINE, YOU TRUE UP AND THEY CAN AUDIT AND TELL AND ALL THIS GOOD STUFF. THE TRUE UP WAS DONE OFF OF A NUMBERS MISTAKE FROM THE PREVIOUS PEOPLE.

AND UNDERCUT THE AMOUNT OF USERS AND THE TYPE OF LICENSES WE WERE GETTING. WHEN THEY STARTED REDOING THINGS AND THAT IS WHERE THAT 35,000 WENT.

I PUT IT IN THERE JUST IN CASE WE NEEDED TO ADD PEOPLE AND SUCH, BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT $10 T $10,000 WILL BE ABSORBED IN THE 2.5 COST INCREASE.

I WON'T ASK FOR IT LIKE THAT, BUT STICK TO THE PAGE WE ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, ONLY 26,000 THAT WE DID A DEFICIT ON, THE TYLER INCREASE AND 2.5% COST INCREASE TOTALS $96,212.

I HAVE GOT ANOTHER BUDGET LINE ITEM THAT I WANT TO DECREASE BY $40,000 BECAUSE I -- I ASSESSED IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND SEEING THAT FOR CONSECUTIVE YEARS, IT ALWAYS HAS A SURPLUS IN IT AND I DON'T HAVE ANY SURPRISES THAT COME OUT OF THAT PARTICULAR BUDGET. SO I WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE A SURPLUS AND REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF AN INCREASE THAT I HAVE TO BRING IN THAT IS A RAW INCREASE LEAVES THE INCREASE.

AND WHEN YOU HOOK AT THE $56,212.

THAT WAS ALMOST EATEN UP BY THE TYLER INCREASE.

SO THAT IS KIND OF A NO CHOICE SITUATION IN ORDER FOR ME TO OPERATE UNDER WHERE I KNOW THE BUDGET IS GOING TO BE AT FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR BOTTOM LINE OUT OF 1240.

$56,212 FOR THE $5300 FOR THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY 1240 FUND. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT PART? .

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MOST OF THAT IS IT SHALL YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE TYLER INCREASE. HOW MANY.

>> I WOULD LOVE TO. >>JUDGE CANALES: 56 MINUS 47.

>> WHAT HAPPENED WITH TYLER, TWO YEARS AGO A SIX-YEAR AGREEMENT WAS PROVED AND SIGNED OFF ON WHEN TYLER WAS MOVED TO THE CLOUD. SO YOU HAVE A SET COST FOR EACH OF THOSE SIX YEARS. AND IT STEADILY INCREASES LAST YEAR WHEN I WAS ON BOARD 53,000 AND NOW GOING UP TO -- GOING UP TO 7,000 300. AND THIS IS THE THIRD YEAR THAT WE PAID FOR. THREE MORE YEARS AND THAT WILL BE INCREASING EACH OF THOSE AS WELL AND THAT'S IT FOR THE 1240.

AND I WILL MOVE ON TO THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE.

. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE P PAGE.

AND HAVING TO DO WITH THE RECORDS OF MANAGEMENT AND IMAGING. THOSE TWO BUDGETS HAVE NO CHANGE. SO WE CAN GO BY THEM RIGHT NOW.

THE SECOND ONE, THOUGH, THAT WAS AFTER 1240 IS THE 1470.

I AM ASKING FOR AN INCREASE OF $10,000, TOTALLY OUT OF MY CONTROL. THE RENT WENT UP FOR THE RECORDS

WAREHOUSE. >> CAN YOU REMIND US WHAT THAT IS? THE REPRESENT PER MONTH?

>> WHAT'S THAT? >> THE REPRESENT PER MONTH.

WAS $14,850. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY.

>> BELOW THAT RIGHT WHAT IS WENT UP TO AND HOW MUCH OF AN INCREASE THAT WAS AND PUT THAT IN AN ANNUAL AMOUNT.

THE ANNUAL AMOUNT WAS $12,480.. BUT WE ARE OPERATING WHERE FISCALLY. WE ARE SOUND ENOUGH WHERE $10,000, I DON'T NEED THE $12,000 NOTHING.

$10,000 WILL TAKE CARE OF THE RENT DOWN THERE.

ONE DAY WE WILL TALK ABOUT VAMPING UP OUR IMAGING PROCESS LIKE IT SHOULD BE BECAUSE WHAT WE ARE REALLY NEED TO BE DOING IS REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE WE NEED TO WAREHOUSE DOCU DOCUMENTS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ONE WOULD THINK.

>> ANOTHER THING TO GET TO. THAT IS IT ON THESE BUDGETS.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT'S IT ON EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH DIRECT I.T. THE NEXT AREA OF DISCUSSION -- AND THE FINAL AREA WILL BE THE CAPITAL OUTLAY STUFF.

CAN WE GO TO THE LAST PAGE, CONNIE, IT'S -- THAT ONE RIGHT THERE THE FIRST BLOCK RIGHT THERE IS WITH THE IS THAT.

THIS IS THE REFURBISHING OF COMPUTERS WHENEVER THEY -- THEY REACH END OF LIFE. WE WANT TO REPLACE THEM.

SO WE RUN THE WARRANTY PERIOD THAT THE COUNTY HAS DONE THIS.

THEY WERE DOING THIS BEFORE I GOT HERE AND THEN WHEN I CAME IN LAST YEAR, THEY DID IT. THE $150,000 CAP.

THESE NUMBERS. THEY COME OUT OF A MATRIX WE RUN SO ACROSS THE COUNTY BY DEPARTMENT, BUT WE DON'T REALLY GO SPECIFICALLY BY DEPARTMENT UNLESS THERE IS A SPECIAL NEED OF SOME SORT. BUT WHAT WE DO IS GO THROUGH THERE AND ALL THE COMPUTERS THAT HAVE MOVED ON FROM BEING UNDER WARRANTY WE GO AND REPLACE THEM. THEY REACHED END OF LIFE.

AND WE GOT THAT AT A MINIMUM OF FIVE YEARS, BUT CAN RUN UP TO SIX YEARS. BECAUSE OF BUDGETING, YOU CAN GET BEHIND ON A PROGRAM LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF COMPUTERS IN THE COUNTY SO IT DOES HELP OBVIOUSLY THOUGH.

AND WHAT I PUSH FOR IS TO GET MORE LAPTOPS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I AM RUNNING INTO IS I SEE PEOPLE BORROWING LAPTOPS AN WANTING THEM IN THE MIDDLE OF A FISCAL YEAR WHERE THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OUT OF SYNC WITH HOW THEY DO IT.

AND IF A PERSON -- ANY REMOTE POSSIBILITY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO GET UP AND ARE GO SOMEWHERE IN THE COUNTY AND WORK FROM HOME. THEY NEED A LAPTOP AND WE NEED TO HAVE THEM AVOID BOTH A DESKTOP AND LAPTOP.

NOT A GOOD WAY TO OPERATE. SO IT IS MUCH MORE EFFICIENT

WITH THE LAPTOP. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE EXCEPTION

[04:00:01]

JUST SO YOU KNOW -- THE DAS CAME THIS MORNING.

AND THEY ACTUALLY SAID -- THEY MAKE A GOOD CASE FOR HAVING BOTH THEY NEED TO BE PHYSICALLY BE IN A COURT ROOM AND THEIR [L]IPADS ARE HOPEFUL, BUT THEY SAY MORE MODERNIZED EQUIPMENT.

CAN YOU LOOK AT THAT. I KNOW THAT MAKES YOU DO DOUBLE BUDGETS. BUT CAN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE.

THE COUNTY ATTORNEY DIDN'T MENTION THAT AS BEING AN ISSUE IN THE OFFICE BUT IT WAS MENTIONED AS A D.A. ISSUE.

I AGREE WITH YOU GENERALLY. >> YOU MENTIONED.

I USE [L]IPAD. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THEY

WANT BOTH. >>JUDGE CANALES: THEY WANT AND NEED BOTH. IF YOU CAN HELP US WITH THAT.

IF THEY NEED TO IN OUR BUDGET AND YOUR BUDGET.

THAT MIGHT BE THE ONLY EXCEPTION.

>> IF BUDGET IS TIGHT, THAT IS WHY I MENTIONED THERE.

IF WE GET TO BEND THIS A LITTLE BIT AND STRETCH LIFE A LITTLE BIT MORE OR WHATEVER WE GOT TO DO TO GET BY AND NOT HAVE TO SPEND MORE MONEY, THAT IS WHAT WE CAN LOOK AT THERE IS THE I.T.

WORK, CUBICLE WORK STATION. FOUR DIFFERENT SETS OF THEM.

WHEN I SAY WORKSTATION. CUBICLE WORKSTATION.

IT IS A CUBICLE LAYOUT AND WORKSTATION IS THE DESK ITSELF LITERALLY BUILT IN AND AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE CUBICLE.

THE FURNITURE THAT IS ON THIS END OF THE BUILDING, SOME OF IT WE MOVE BECAUSE I HAVE ALREADY MOVED A FEW PEOPLE DOWN THERE AS IS BECAUSE IT IS KINDS IDLE IN OUR OPERATION.

THAT FURNITURE WILL GO BACK. WHOEVER ENDS UP USING THE OFFICE AREA THAT WE ARE MOVING OUT OF, THEY HAVE NICE FURNITURE ALREADY. THEY WON'T NEED ANY IN THERE.

AT THE $85,000, WE ARE GETTING PRETTY WELL SET UP APPEAR THIS KIND OF COMPLETES THE ALL THE ORGANIZATIONAL RESTRUCTURES WE ARE DOING WITHIN I.T., AND THIS WILL -- I HAVE SEEN SOME OF THESE AND WITH WHAT THEY -- THEY PROVIDE US WITH DIAGRAMS AND EVERYTHING AND THEY LOOK PRETTY GOOD.

NOW WHEN I SAY FOUR SETS ON THERE.

THIS IS FOUR DIFFERENT AREAS WHERE THEY ARE SETTING US UP ONIT. ONE OF THEM WHERE THE CURRENT DATA CENTER IS AT WHERE WE CAN RELOCATE.

AND IN THERE PUT SIX CUBICLES AND HE LOOK AT ONLY NEEDING FOUR IN THERE AND THE PRICE WILL REDUCE A LITTLE BIT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SAY A WHOLE LOT. WE WILL WAIT TO SEE HOW IT GOES BUT THAT WILL BE ANOTHER LITTLE AREA OF CLEANUP THERE.

AND SEE EXACTLY HOW THAT COMES OUT, BUT THAT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO -- GET THAT IN PLACE TO BE VERY WELL SET.

ALL I.T. PEOPLE COME OUT OF THERE.

RIGHT NOW PUBLIC WORKS HAS BEEN THROUGH THEIR ASSESSING THE REMOVAL. LAST REMAINING CARPET AND PUTTING THAT TILE FLOOR IN THERE WHICH I THINK IS VERY FAST AND QUICK OPERATION THEY ARE DOING WITH THE FLOORS AND I FEEL LIKE THEY ARE NICE THE WAY THEY ARE DOING THEM.

AND WITH THAT AND THE CUBICLE WORK STATIONS.

IT WILL LOOK NICE AND BE A NICE WORKING ENVIRONMENT FOR THEM.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL TELL YOU WHICH ONES ARE NICE.

THE ONES IN THE LAW LIBRARY. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE SIMILAR, BUT IF THAT IS KIND OF THE NEW MODERN LOOK.

THEY ARE VERY -- VERY.. >> I THINK THEY ARE ALL FROM THE SAME COMPANY. BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH PURCHASING WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS.

AND THEY DID ALL THE WALKTHROUGHS.

I WOULD IMAGINE THEY ARE VERY SIMILAR EVER AND THEY LOOK VERY GOOD. VERY EFFICIENT HOW THEY PUT IT TOGETHER AND MAXIMIZE THE USE OF THE FACE THE COMPANY VERA DESK THAT GO UP AND DOWN. THEY PROVIDE UNBELIEVABLE WORKSTATIONS -- YOU GUYS WHO ARE ALREADY AT THE COMPUTER.

I DON'T KNOW, THAT IS SUPPOSEDLY FOR PEOPLE WITH BACK PROBLEMS

AND -- >> YEAH, I HAD THE ONE THAT

SOMETIMES I STAND IN. >>JUDGE CANALES: THOSE ARE NICE.

OKAY. SO NOW WE KIND OF UNDERSTAND

WHAT YOU NEED IN THE REALM. >> YES.

THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO.

[04:05:01]

THE NEXT BLOCK IS AV PROJECTS. OPINION.

THAT IS THE LAST ONE I WILL DISCUSS.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE GRANICUS. WE BROUGHT THE SURVEY THAT WAS A BIG PLAYER IN SURVEYING THE GENERAL PUBLIC FOR THE ARPA -- ALL THE ARPA STUFF. AND ACTUALLY I THINK THAT THE COVID WAS USE IN THERE AS WELL BUT THIS GRANICUS WE HAVE OUR WEB SITE. THEY HAVE A PRODUCT CALLED ENGAGEMENT HQ. GATHERING INFORMATION AND GETTING EQUIPMENT FOR SENSE AND DISSEMINATE THIS OUT.

THIS ENGAGEMENT HQ CAN BE A INTEGRAL PART OF OUR WEB SITE AND WE ARE IN CONTROL OF IT AND AN UNLIMITED ACCESS OF CREATING TOPICS THAT PEOPLE CAN COME OUT. GO TO OUR WEB SITE AND SELECT ANY TOPICS THEY ARE INTERESTED IN AND GIVE THEIR E-MAIL AND WE ARE GOING TO BE USING E-MAIL, TEXTING, THE WEB SITE ITSELF HAS INFORMATION AND THE PHONE SYSTEM AND VOICE OVER IP CAN COORDINATE WITH THIS. WE CAN NOW SET THIS UP AND A GREAT PLACE FOR PEOPLE THAT WE PUT OUR TOPICS OUT THERE.

WHATEVER YOU ARE TRYING TO GET INFORMATION ON HOW THE CITIZENS FEEL ABOUT IT AND THEY CAN COME IN HERE AND PUT INFORMATION IN HERE AND FORM IT INTO REPORTS OR ANYTHING WE WANT TO DO.

IF YOU WANT TO DISSEMINATE THE INFORMATION BACK OUT, WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND OTHER COMPANIES LIKE ZEN CITY THAT WE CAN PUT TOGETHER OFF OF THEIR CORE PRODUCT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: JUST TO BE -- JUST TO EXPLAIN HOW MUCH MONEY THIS CAN SAVE. .WE LOOK AT OUR BOB HALL PIER ENGAGEMENT, IT WAS PHENOMENAL. I AM NOT SAYING -- IF WE HAD MORE MONEY I WOULD LIKE TO DO MORE WORK WITH THAT COMPANY BECAUSE THEY DID SUCH A FINE JOB.

WE SPENT MORE ON ONE PROJECT THAN IT WOULD COST TO PAY FOR THE WHOLE YEAR. RIGHT.

THIS IS A YEARLY. >> YES.

IT JUST WOULD BE GOOD TO DO IT OURSELVES AND IG THAT TYLER WILL ADVOCATE FOR THIS WHAT A PIO DREAM OF HAVING PUBLIC SENTIMENT TO CRAFT A MESSAGE. AND SO --

>> EN WITH YOU MENTIONED OF PIO, YOU BRING UP HOW THE TEAM IS SHAPING UP. IF I CAN GET THIS POSITION.

THIS AV TYPE POSITION IN THERE SO YOU HAVE THE TECHNICAL SIDE COVERED VERY MUCH IN DEPTH. PIO, CONNIE THAT WORKED WITH THE WEBMASTER IN THE PAST AND THE COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST AND HELPED WITH WEB ACTIVITIES AND SUCH.

HAVE A GROUP OF PEOPLE NOW IN THE COUNTY WORK WITH THE SYSTEMS THAT WERE BRING IN SOFTWARE LIKE THIS.

AND WE SHUNTS BE MISSING ANYTHING ONCE WE GET.

>>JUDGE CANALES: DO THEY PROVIDE TRAINING IF YOU PROCURE

SOMETHING LIKE THAT? >> YES, THEY PROVIDE TRAINING.

WE CO-EXISTED WHENEVER THEY DO THE NEWER WEB SITES WITH COASTAL PARKS AND GETTING THESE PEOPLE. THE LIBRARY.

SOME PEOPLE HAVE INDEPENDENT WEB SITES AND I.T. PERSONNEL IT COME TOGETHER AND BUILD THE NEW WEB PAGES.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IS THAT THE RUNNING COAST ALS?

. >> YES.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS VERY GOOD.

JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, THIS BUDGET REQUEST IS WHAT WE CALL THE EXTRA. THIS IS THE ORIGINAL REQUEST.

NOT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW.

>> AN ADDITIONAL COMPONENT OF OUR WEB SITE.

WE HAVE BEEN FUNDING OUR WEB SITE JUST FINE FOR A WHWHILE WH WE FIND ON THE 430 AND PUT IT ON CAPITAL OUTLAY SO IT DOESN'T GET MIXED UP TO THEI I.T. 1240 FUND.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT THE HAVE TO HAVES BEFORE THE

NEED, WANT TYPES. >>JUDGE CANALES: I UNDERSTAND.

[04:10:01]

>> THAT IS WHAT THAT WOULD BE ABOUT LEAVES ONE LAST THING TO DISCUSS IS AV PRODUCTS. WE HAVE THEM LISTED.

THEY WILL ADD UP FAIRLY HEFTY. NOT TERRIBLY BAD.

THERE ARE PRETTY ELABORATE SET-UPS IN HERE.

BUT I WANTED TO -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TO DISCUSS THIS HERE OTHER THAN I THINK WE WILL NEED SOME PRIORITIZING BECAUSE SOME OF THESE -- THE FIRST FOUR ARE STRICTLY ABOUTAV SET-UPS FOR PRESENTATION FACILITIES. THE LAST ONE IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER FOR THE SHERIFF FACILITY NEXT DOOR, THEIR DIGITAL BULLETS SYSTEM ON THE FIRST FLOOR ON EACH SIDE OF THE COURT. HOUSE ALTHOUGH THEY VICE PRESIDENT BEEN ON. THERE IS A PROJECT MANAGER ARE THE SYSTEMS THAT ARE FOR JUST PLAYING OUR AGENDAS THE PUBLIC NOTICES THAT HAVE TO BE POSTED SO THE COUNTY CLERK COULDN'T PUT STUFF IN THE PLEXIGLASS HOLDERS. I NOTICED WITH UNDAY THEY WERE OFF AND IDAY NOTICED IT TOO AND I MADE ANOTHER ROUND AND LOOKED CLOSELY ON THE PLEXIGLASS OUTSIDE AND I SAW A LOT OF OUTDATED STUFF AND THINGS THAT ARE MORE OF A CLEANUP JUST NOT THE.PREVIOUS SITE, THE PEST WAY TO DO IT.

AND I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE UPGRADED THE SYSTEM IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, SOFTWARE SYSTEM HAS BEEN UPGRADED, BUT THE DISPLAYS WERE NEVER CHANGED AND RELATIVE WHAT YOU ARE DOING ON THEM BUT AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING WITH THIS KIND OF STUFF. ANOTHER THING DOWNSTAIRS THAT IS MORE RECENT PACK IN THIS POSITION IS A DIGITAL DIRECTLY DOWN THERE. PUBLIC WORKS WAS HOLDING IN AND GOT FROM THE MOUNTING OF EVERYTHING TO THE I.T. THING AND TO THE SMART TV AND NETWORKS AND 22 MILES WITH AS A COMPANY THAT CONNECTED. BRIDGET AND I WERE WORKING TOGETHER ON ALL THE INFORMATION AND THEY PIECED IT ALL TOGETHER A DIGITAL DIRECTORY WHERE YOU CAN GO IN THERE -- ACTUALLY TOUCHSCREEN. A PERSON CAN WALK UP TO IT AND FIND THE LOCATION WHERE THEY ARE TRYING TO GO IN THE COURTHOUSE AND IF IT IS NOT IN THE COURTHOUSE WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING WHERE IT CAN ACTUALLY BRING UP THE ADDRESS AND TELL THEM IT IS NOT LOCATED HERE KIND OF THE REPLACEMENT FROM THE YOUNG LADY THAT WENT DOWN AND DIRECTED EVERYBODY WHERE TO GO.

SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF EXAMPLES OF IT.

BUT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEVERAL OF THESE STRATEGICALLY LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE ADMINISTRATION AND JAIL AREA NEXT DDOOR TO DEMONSTRATE FOR EMPLOYEE TO GO VIEW FOR THOSE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE E-MAIL AS I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, THIS IS A CONCEPT OF HOW AS WE ARE EXPANDING AND OUR WHOLE INFRASTRUCTURE. THE KIND OF SYSTEMS WHERE YOU KIND OF DOING AV STUFF ACROSS THE ENTIRE INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE DISSEMINATION OF INFORMATION GETTING IT OUT THERE WHEN WE TALK OF USING THESE DISPLAYS. ALL THESE E-MAILING, TEXTING, PHONE CALLING PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP FOR CERTAIN INFORMATION. I THINK WE CAN DO A PRETTY THOROUGH JOB OF GETTING INFORMATION OUT FOR PEOPLE IF WEAPON BRING THE TYPE OF SYSTEMS IN YESTERDAY, BROUGHT IN A GIRL -- A RREP WITH THE COUNTY. AND THEY HAVE A PRESENCE IN CORPUS CHRISTI AND HEADQUARTERS IN MISSION.

AND SOMEBODY THAT WE CAN PARTNER WITH CLOSE AT HAND.

THEY ARE IN OUR AREA AND ON STATE CONTRACT ALREADY AND HER IS TO INTEGRATE AND GET THE AV POSITION AND PARTNER WITH PRETTY

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ELABORATE SET-UPS. WE NEED TO MODERNIZE.

THE THINGS WE BRING WITH STREAMING AND ZOOM.

ZOOM IS NOT GOING AWAY. EVERYBODY GOT THROWN IN THE MIX IN A LOT OF PLACES. NOT GOING AWAY AND WE ARE READY TO START WORKING AROUND IT. AND ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT OF A TAKE ENT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHO WANT TO OR HAS A NEED TO RECORD SPECIFIC EXECUTIVE SESSION AGENDA ITEMS. I AM FIND THAT ZOOM WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BEST WAY TO GO.

WHAT WE HAVE TO FIX FIRST IS HOW WE DO ZOOM ACCOUNTS.

WE HAVE -- THERE ARE SOME FREE ACCOUNTS.

OUR ACCOUNTS ARE KINDS OF ALL OVER THE PLACE.

THEY HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS AND THE LOWEST COUNT IS THE FREE ACCOUNT. WHAT WE NEED TO GET INTO IS A PACKAGE OF BUSINESS ACCOUNTS THAT IS NOT VERY EXPENSIVE FOR WHAT YOU GET AND A LOT OF CAPABILITY WITH ZOOM THAT WE DON'T TOUCH ON RIGHTS NOW. AND INTEGRATES WITH A LOT OF THIS AV EQUIPMENT. INTEGRATES WITH OUR VOICEOVER IP SYSTEMS AND THAT IS WHY IT IS MENTIONED IN THERE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT ABOUT -- SPEAKING OF SOFTWARE.

YOU WEREN'T IN THE ROOM FOR THIS.

A REQUEST FOR SOFTWARE FROM THE -- FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S

OFFICE. >> COUNTY ATTORNEY AS WELL AS

SOCIAL SERVICES. >>JUDGE CANALES: CORRECT.

COUNTY ATTORNEYS WAS HAULED HIGH Q.

>> WE HAVE BEEN ON DEMO WITH THEM.

WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT WITH THEM.

THE BUDGING PART OF THAT -- SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO POINT OUT THAT THE I.T. BUDGET DOESN'T HAVE EXTRA MONEY.

WE DON'T RUN A HIGH SURPLUS. KIND OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS ABOUT. YOU CAN'T ALLOCATE ALL THESE FUNDS AND THEY ARE WAITING FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN, RIGHT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT. >> THE SOFTWARE THAT WE FUND OUT OF I.T. IS COUNTYWIDE SOFTWARE OR AT LEAST SPANS MULTIPLE DEPAR DEPARTMENTS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: NOT THAT I WHO CALL HIGHLY SPECIALIZED.

>> THE FUNDING SOURCES. IF IT LOOKS LIKE IT TOUCHES ON THE AREA OF ARPA THAT IS ELIGIBLE, JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE, THEN -- THEN THAT FUNDING SOURCE IS FINE, JUST A MATTER OF WHOSE BUDGET. WHO IS MANAGE THAT PARTICULAR

BUDGET. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT IS YOUR

RECOMMENDATION? >> I PREFER THAT THE DEPARTMENT -- THE SOFTWARE THAT IS JUST FOR THAT ONE DEPARTMENT THAT THEY SEE IT BECAUSE IT TAKES A BETTER VISIBILITY ON THE ACTUAL USER OF THE PROGRAM. US AS SYSTEMS ANALYST AND I.T., CASE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE THAT IS SO WIDESPREAD THE MICROSOFT 365.

ALL THE STUFF WE USE TO MANAGE OUR ACCESS DOMAIN, ACCESS CONTROL AND A LOT GOING ON. OUR DATA CENTER STUFF.

ALL THESE TYPES THAT -- THE END USER CYBER SECURITY SOFTWARE.

ALL OF THAT IS COUNTYWIDE STUFF AND THAT IS THE KIND OF STUFF WE TYPICALLY FUND OUT OF THE I.T. BUDGET.

IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. I CAN'T SAY NO, I CAN'T DO THAT FOR YOU. JUST TELLING YOU HOW IT WAS NORMALLY DONE IN THE PAST. AND SO -- SO IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. THE REAL POINT IS THAT WE WILL PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

PARTNER WITH THE SOCIAL SERVICES AS WE HAVE BEEN DOING ALL ALONG.

AND HELP ANY WAY WE CAN WITH THE -- OUR BIG THING IS THE IMPLEMENTATION. BRING IT IN.

GETTING IT INSTALLED, CONFIGURED AND WHERE THEY ARE GOOD TO GO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: HIGH Q IS A SOLE SOURCE.

LIKE ON A GSA CONTRACT? >> SOLE SOURCE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO PROCURE IT SOMEHOW. ARE THEY -- I MEAN I KNOW YOU CAN DO SOLE SOURCE. I TOLD FRANCISCO TO COME BACK.

THAT IS WHY HE IS THINKING IT THROUGH.

WILL SOLE SOURCE WORK FOR ARPA? I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL.

MY POINT IS I ASKED HIM TO COME BACK BECAUSE I AM TRYING TO SEPARATE IN MY BRAIN FOR ARPA. IT SOUNDS LIKE HIGH Q NEEDS TO GO ON THE ARPA SIDE, BUT NOW WE KNOW IT NEEDS TO HAVE SOME -- LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S A BIG ONE.

RIGHT. IT IS REUTERS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THOMP THOMPSON RE UTERS.

[04:20:04]

YOU NEED TO FIND OUT WHICH TYPE OF -- HOW ARE THEY USING.

THEY ARE TOO BIG TO NOT BE ON A GSA.

THEY PROBABLY HAVE BEEN ON A GSA.

WE NEED TO FIND OUT. >> I USED GSA, AND YOU ARE GETTING A LOT OF INFORMATION WITH THESE BUDGET WORKSHOPS AND COMING BACK IN JULY TO TALK THINGS MORE INDIVIDUALLY AND WE WILL HAVE MORE SOLID NUMBERS AND KNOW THE ANSWERS TO ALL THESE QUESTIONS THAT ARE COMING UP. SO AT THAT POINT, THINGS ARE GOING TO BE MUCH MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD.

WE WILL HAVE OUR FUNDING SOURCES IDENTIFIED SO I THINK IT WILL BE A BETTER TIME FOR -- OF COURSE, THAT WILL ALSO BE A TIME FOR APPROVING THINGS AND LITTLE FOR DISCUSSION AND HAVE IT CLEARLY LAID OUT AND COME TOGETHER AND KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE COMING

FROM. >>JUDGE CANALES: GOT IT.

OKAY. WELL, YOU HAD A LOT IN THERE.

LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS, WHERE ARE WE ON THE -- ON THE ENHANCEMENTS FOR THE COURT ROOM ON THE FIFTH FLOOR, THE AV SLASH. WILL THAT COME IN UNDER THE ADA WORK BEING DONE CURRENTLY? YOU MAY NOT KNOW AND ORIGINALLY BEFORE YOU ARRIVED, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE DESIGNATED THAT COURTROOM AS OUR FULL-BLOWN ADA COURT ROOM TO HAVE HEARING-IMPAIRED ADVANCEMENT TECHNOLOGY.

ALL TECHNOLOGY THAT WOULD ASSIST IN ADA COMPLIANCE.

AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE ADA PIECE OF IT IS BEING WORKED ON RIGHT NOW STRUCTURALLY BUT I DON'T HAVE EYES ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT INCLUDED A BUDGET FROM CLK, WHICH IS THE ARCHITECT ON THE FIFTH FLOOR AS TO THE AV ENHANCEMENT PIECE OF IT THAT ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO BE IN THERE. IF WE ARE MISSING THAT, I WOULD LIKE FOR THE COURT TO READDRESS THAT.

SOMETHING CAN GET WITH JUAN AND CLK.

. >> LANDS IS INVOLVED.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS SO IMPORTANT.

IT GETS KICKED DOWN THE ROAD. AND THAT -- THAT CAN BE A WAY TO AVOID IF YOU WILL OTHER -- AS YOU KNOW THESE COURT ROOMS ARE HARD TO ENHANCE FORADA. THE CONCEPT ORIGINALLY WAS TO MAKE -- THIS WITH AS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

MAKE FOUR OR FIVE -- 405 THE ADA FOR AV, A JUDGE, A WITNESS AND A LAWYER, RIGHT. IT WAS THE HEARING IMPAVED THAT WAS THE MOST TECHNOLOGICAL CONCERN AT THE TIME AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE. SOMEONE JUST NEEDS TO ANSWER

THAT QUESTION. >> YES.

AND YOU KIND OF BROUGHT UP A POINT THERE TOO.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE AV PROJECTS. AND ALL I DISCUSSED -- I HAVE THIS LIST OF ITEMS HERE THAT I HAVE SPOKEN TO PEOPLE ABOUT AND THEY HAVE COME TO ME WITH, BUT IF ANY OF YOU THE JUDGE AND ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANYTHING THEY DON'T SEE ON HERE THAT THEY KNOW IS OF INTEREST A PRIORITY FOR THEM.

IT NEEDS TO GO ON THE LIST AS WELL.

CERTAINLY WELCOME FOR INFORMATION WHEN WE START PUTS THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK TOGETHER AND GETTING IT PRIORITIZED YOU BECAUSE I THINK ALL THIS IS ADORABLE AND ALL THE PIECES WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER WITH THE COMPANIES WE WILL WORK WITH AS WELL AS THE INTERNAL POSITION THAT ARE COMING ABOUT THAT ARE KIND OF RESOLVED AROUND THESE. I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO GET IT ALL TOGETHER BECAUSE ADA COMPLY AN SEE IS NOTHING NEW AT THIS POINT. THE COMPANY I WAS TALK TO YESTERDAY. THEY LOOKED LIKE COVER ANY AREAS

WE WANT TO COVER. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS GREAT.

>> ANY OTHER AREAS OR DISCUSSION POINTS? I WILL HAND IT OVER TO TIM, BECAUSE, YEAH, I CAN IMAGINE HAVING TO SIT THROUGH ALL THESE SITTING THROUGH ALL OF THESE.

IT IS A LOT OF INFORMATION. >> THANK YOU.

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>>JUDGE CANALES: JUST GIVE US A SECOND.

BY ALREADY GOT A TEXT BACK FROM -- FROM GIA.

I AM CHECK IT RIGHT NOW. BUT -- THAT THEY ARE NOT SET UP TO MEET JAIL STANDARDS FOR TEXAS.

BUT THEY ARE CHECKING ALL OPTIONS FOR US.

SO YOU CAN SAVE YOURSELF SOME TIME.

I REMEMBER THAT LEO IS ON MY SPEED DIAL.

YOU MIGHT REMEMBER -- YOU REMEMBER LINA GUERRERO, A LONG TIME AGO, THE VERY FIRST FEMALE RAILROAD COMMISSIONER.

SHE PASSED AWAY FROM CANCER, BUT THAT IS HER HUSBAND.

HE RUNS GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS FOR GEO GROUP.

HE SAID TWO THINGS. NUMBER ONE, THEY ARE 100% FULL OF FEDERAL INMATES. THEY HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM WE DO. BUT BEYOND THAT, JUST UNFORTUNATELY WHEN THEY BUILD -- HOW STUPID WAS THIS -- THEY BUILT NOT TO TEXAS STANDARDS. TO JAIL STANDARDS.

THAT IS A SHAME. WHY WOULD -- WHY WOULD YOU PUT YOUR FEDERAL INMATES WORSE THAN YOUR OWN TEXAS JAIL STANDARDS?

>> IT DOESN'T EVEN SEEM POSSIBLE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT JUST SHOWS YOU BECAUSE THEY ARE PRIVATIZING. THAT IS HOW THEY MAKE MONEY.

ANYWAY. A GREAT THOUGHT.

LET'S SEE WHAT OTHER OPTIONS HE H

HAS. >>JUDGE CANALES: IS YOUR SOFTWARE SOMETHING THAT WILL CHANGE YOUR EFFICIENCIES.

>> COMPLETELY. WITH TURNOVER, OF COURSE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: HOW DO YOU MAN

MANAGE? >> WE LOSE.

TRACKS CHANGES TO DRAFTS. CHANGES AND HOW THEY WERE MADE.

FLOATING OUTSIDE COUNSEL. ALL THAT COULD BE -- AND IT IS NOT LOST. AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MORE PROJECTS THAT THIS CONTRACT IS EXPIRING NOW, NOW, NOW.

IT'S AN EMERGENCY. ALL OF IT WILL BE CALENDARED AND AUTO AUTOMATED.

>>JUDGE CANALES: LAWYERS ARE USED TO THAT.

I THINK REUTERS IS GSA. I LOOKED IT UP.

AND I NEED MICHAEL TO CONFIRM. NAVIGATING GOVERNMENT PROCUREMENT AND BASICALLY TALKS ABOUT --

. >> I THINK OUR OFFICE HAS --.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: CAN WE JUST ASK QUESTIONS FROM -- NOT HAVE TOO MANY CONVERSATIONS. I HAVE A MEETING AT 3:30.

I GOT TO GET OUT OF HERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: KEN, COULD YOU

BE BRIEF? >> I WILL BE THE MOST SHORTEST

ONE HERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I FIGURED YOU WOULD. GO AHEAD.

>> AS YOU SEE. I PULLED IT UP HERE ONLINE.

NUMBER 5303. ORIGINAL HEE AN ERA ON MY PART.

I WILL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. IT IS NOT $40,000 GRAND THAT I NEED. UP NEED $21,664 OF THAT.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS -- IS WANT TO PURCHASE NINE AEDS TO ADD INTO THE COUNTY'S TOTAL NUMBER.

THAT WILL MAKE IT A TOTAL NUMBER.57.

THOSE NINE WILL GO TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

AND THIS WILL MAKE 19 AED WITH THE FRONT LINE WITH THE HIGHER RISK OF BEING USED. THE COMPANY THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING OUR MAINTENANCE WITH RIGHT NOW, WE ROBSTOWN CONSTABLE USE IT WITHIN FOUR HOURS AND HAD THE MACHINE SERVICED AGAIN. THE MACHINES WILL COST A LITTLE UNDER $16,000. THAT IS THE CHEAPEST I COULD FIND. THE SECOND CHEAPEST WAS 25 AND OUR BUDGET FROM LAST YEAR WAS 17813.

ALL I NEEDED TO TO WAS SUPPLEMENT WITH AN ADDITIONAL 5600 TO COVER THE MAINTENANCE COST WHICH IS RIGHT AROUND $24,000 A YEAR. SO WITH THAT -- THAT ORIGINAL $40,000 THAT I ASKED, I AM ONLY ASKING FOR 21,664.

A DIFFERENCE OF $18,338. THAT CONCLUDES MY BRIEF.

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>>JUDGE CANALES: I AM GOING TO ASK TERESA OR AUDITORS, AGAIN WHILE THAT IS A RISK OF MANAGE THEMENT POLICY, THAT IS A THING -- THAT THING SHOULD BE PROCURED BY THE RIGHT DEPARTMENTMENT POL -- THAT THING SHOULD BE PROCURED BY THE RIGHMENT POLICY, THAT IS- THAT THING SHOULD BE PROCURED BY THE RIGHT DEPARTMENTMENT POLICY THAT THING SHOULD BE PROCURED BY THE RIGHT DEPARTMENT IT IS ATHING. RISK MANAGEMENT -- I AM WITH HIM 100%. I AM JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT

HOW TO FUND IT. >> I AM NOT SURE IF IT CAN COME OUT OF CAPITAL AND BE ALLOCATE TO THE SHERIFF.

I AM NOT -- >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK WE SHOULD MARK THIS ONE DOWN. AT THIS POINT, A GREAT IDEA.

ABOUT HOW WE FUND IT. >> I UNDER STAND, JUDGE.

IF I TAKE THE MAINTENANCE AND ENSURE THAT THEY ARE ALL IN THE SAME MAINTENANCE. THEY CAN BE PURCHASED THROUGH THEM BUT THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT.

>> WE CAN BUDGET IT THAT WAY. MAINTENANCE IN HIS BUDGET AND THE PURCHASE -- WHEREVER THE DEPARTMENT WILL BE.

SO -- >>JUDGE CANALES: OTHERWISE YOU LOOK AT THE YEAR OVER YAS, IT WILL LOOK WEIRD.

BUDGET SOMETHING A SCIENCE. >>JUDGE CANALES: IN AN EFFORT OF HURRYING UP. GOODBYE.

[LAUGHTER] .

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE WILL CALL YOU WHEN WE NEED YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S CALL THE NEXT PERSON BECAUSE WE ARE A HOLD OF SCHEDULE. HOLD.

THAT IS THE LAST ONE. HE DOESN'T HAVE MUCH ON HIS EITHER. SO IF HE CAN'T COME -- IF YOU ALL WILL LOOK. WE WILL WAIT FOR HIM AND NO CAPITAL OUTLAY HERE. SO ALL HE IS GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT IS A RECLASS. BECAUSE THERE IS NET ZERO TO THE BUDGET. NET NEUTRAL.

NO CAPITAL. SIMPLY A RECLASS.

BETTER -- HE WILL BE SUPER QUICK.

IF HE WANTS TO ZOOM FOR THE INTEREST OF TIME, HE CAN.

DID WE LOSE COMMISSIONER MAREZ? >> OH, WE DID.

. >> HOLDEN IS GOING TO COME IN ON ZO ZOOM.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THEY WILL YOU WILL BE IN BY 3:00.

GONZALEZ GONZALEZ I HAVE A MEETING AT 3:30.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THEN YOU WILL BE OUT OF THERE REAL FAST.

[04:35:12]

ANY WAY YOU CAN STAY, JEN HEY, FOR 15 MINUTES AFTERWARDS SINCE WE ARE AHEAD. WE CAN GET THROUGH A FEW THINGS?

>> HE HAS LINK. >> I AM GUESSING.

HE KNOWS HOW TO ZOOM IN.

JUDGE JUDGE THERE HE IS. THANK YOU.

>> WE WOUND UP GETTING WAY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.

WE WON'T HOLD IT AGAINST YOU THAT YOU ARE ON ZOOM.

>> (INDISCERNIBLE).

YES, OUR BUDGET REQUEST -- . $118,905.

(INDISCERNIBLE) WE'VE HAD FOR TWO YEARS.

ALL WE ARE DOING IS REQUESTING TO RECLASSIFY OUR DEPARTMENT HEAD FOR DEPUTY DIRECTOR IS THE ROLE I HAVE NOW TO A DIRECTOR.

WE HAVE SOME JUSTIFICATIONS (INDISCERNIBLE).

IN THE PLANS FOR THE AND CDC FOR A WHILE.

I THINK WERE AT A UNIQUE TIME, NOW, AS THE COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE ARE AWARE. I'M TRANSITIONING OUT OF THIS ROLE AT THE END OF, WELL, PRETTY MUCH AT THE END OF THIS MONTH BEGINNING IN JULY. TO GO ON TO SCHOOL.

AND SO, WE BRING SOMEBODY IN. IT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GO FIND SOMEBODY WHO MEETS THE QUALIFICATIONS, HAS SOME PRIOR EXPERIENCE IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FIELD TO REALLY KICK THIS THING INTO OVERDRIVE.

(INDISCERNIBLE) PRETTY GOOD FOUNDATION.

WITH THAT, THOUGH, THAT PERSON NEEDS(INDISCERNIBLE) DEPUTY DIRECTOR . LOOKING AT SOME OF THE RESEARCH IN TERMS OF SIMILAR JOB POSTINGS, OR COUNTIES, OUR CITIES. THE CURRENT SALARY IS NOT GOING TO BE COMPETITIVE TO GET SOMEONE THAT HAS EXPERIENCE

[04:40:04]

THAT WE NEED FOR THIS ROLE. SO WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS ROUGHLY A $20,000 INCREASE IN THE DEPARTMENT HAD SALARY.

BUT IS STILL AT THE LOWER END OF WHAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR WOULD MAKE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A GROWTH POSITION. SO YOU ARE GETTING SOMEONE WHO HAS SOME EXPERIENCE, BUT MAYBE NOT, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE (INDISCERNIBLE) OF EXPERIENCE. YOU'RE NOT POACHING A DIRECTOR FROM AN ESTABLISHED AGENCY. YOU ARE MAY BE GIVING SOMEBODY AN OPPORTUNITY WHO SERVED AS A DEPUTY DIRECTOR, PREVIOUSLY, TO COME INTO THE ROLE. YEAH.

BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS ALL OF THESE FUNDS ARE WITHIN OUR BUDGET AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS. IT'S A DECREASE IN HER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES BUDGET ITEM, WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY USED TO FUND THE CONTRACT FOR JOHN BREIER.

IT'S A SLIGHT DRAW ON RESERVE APPROPRIATIONS TO ALSO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE IN BENEFITS THAT'S REQUIRED.

BUT WE HAVE THE FUNDS THERE TO WORK THROUGH WITH TERESA MEKKO MORE. YEAH, SO ULTIMATELY WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY NEW FUNDS. WE ARE EXPECTING THE SAME CONTRIBUTION FROM CORPUS CHRISTI THAT WE RECEIVED THIS

PAST YEAR. >> OKAY, GREAT.

OKAY. THAT MAKES YOUR ANALYSIS HERE EASY -- NET ZERO INCREASE TO BUDGET AND FULLY FUNDED BY

OUTSIDE INTER-LOCAL. >> YEAH.

I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME FUNDING IN THE PAST FROM COMMISSIONERS COURT.

I BELIEVE IN THE PAST, THAT'S BEEN SOMEWHERE IN THE $40-$50,000 RANGE. BUT YEAH, WITH OUR CURRENT FUNDING FROM (INDISCERNIBLE) AT A 120, THE BUDGET WE ARE REQUESTING IS 118. UNLESS THERE IS A BUDGETING REASON (INDISCERNIBLE) FROM FUNDS WITHIN THE COUNTY, WE FULLY MEET THIS BUDGET WITH OUR OUTSIDE FUNDS.

WE JUST NEED PERMISSION TO UPGRADE THIS POSITION.

AND ALSO, AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING THAT PERSON. BECAUSE I'M ON MY WAY OUT.

AND SO WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE ANY GUIDANCE THAT JUDGE, YOU, OR THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE FOR US IN REGARDS TO TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THAT PERSON COMES ON, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE FUNDS ARE THERE.

BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE IN OUR BUDGET TODAY. BUT YOU KNOW, JUST TRY TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOMEBODY COME ON IN JULY WHO IS MAKING THE SALARY THAT THEY WOULD HAVE MADE, ASSUMING THAT THIS POSITION CHANGES APPROVED, THAT THEY WOULD MAKE IN OCTOBER.

WE WOULDN'T WANT THERE TO BE A GAP FROM THEIR JULY, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER SALARY TO OCTOBER, IF THAT MAKES SENSE?

>> YES, IT DOES. IT DOES, INDEED.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. TERESA HAS A COMMENT.

TERESA WILL GET ON A MICROPHONE SO YOU GUYS CAN HEAR.

BEING ON ONE SECOND. >> I WAS ALSO GOING TO ADD THAT DEPOSITION BUT WE ARE ALSO REQUESTING A CAR ALLOWANCE FOR

THAT DIRECTOR. >> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. .

WITHOUT GETTING TOO EXCITED, THIS MIGHT BE THE VERY FIRST DEPARTMENT BUDGET WORKSHOP -- A DEPARTMENT INSIDE BUDGET WORKSHOP THAT COULD POTENTIALLY OFFER A SAVINGS.

I'M SEEING A POTENTIAL $50,000 SAVINGS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WAS BUDGETED LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. IS IT 40 OR 50?

>> IT'S FULLY FUNDED BY THE COURT.

WE PUT IN 50? >> YES.

>> LAST YEAR WE DIDN'T PUT IN --

>> I BELIEVE IT WAS FULLY FUNDED BY THE BOARD.

HE IS EITHER 119 OR 120. >> BUT MY QUESTION -- WHAT DID WE BUDGET OUR GIVING -- IN LAST YEAR'S FISCAL YEAR, DID WE PUT

IN ANY DOLLARS? >> WE HAVE REVENUE FROM THE FAMILY PROTECTION FEE ACCOUNT. THOSE FUNDS ARE GOING INTO THE CDC ACCOUNT. IN THIS YEAR WE HAVE THE

TRANSFER FROM GENERAL FUND. >> OKAY.

I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS THOSE CAN BE USED SOMEWHERE

[04:45:02]

ELSE? >> YEAH, THAT'S POSSIBLE.

I'M NOT 100 PERCENT SURE. >> NO, NO.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS -- WELL, YEAH. I WOULD TO DO IT.

BUT IF I'M PUSHED -- I MEAN, IF WE ARE TIGHT, THAT'S -- THIS IS GOING TO BE AN EXTRAORDINARY YEAR.

AND HOPEFULLY, WE WILL GET BACK ON TRACK, RIGHT? YOU CAN'T HAVE THE ECONOMY HURTING US LIKE THIS WITHOUT IT SHOWCASING IT SOMEWHERE.UT ANYWAY, WELL LOOK.

I APPRECIATE IT. IT'S THE FIRST TIME I ACTUALLY GET TO THINK OF POTENTIAL SURPLUS SOMEWHERE.

THANKS, GUYS. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, WE WILL LET YOU GO! THANKS SO MUCH.

3:05, SEE YOU GUYS TOMORROW MORNING FOR REGULAR COURT! BACK TO BUDGET WORKSHOP ON THURSDAY.

AT 10:30.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.