May 26, 2022 Commissioners Court - Special Meeting

[A. Pledge of Allegiance to the United States of America and Texas Flags.]

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>> JUDGE: WE ARE GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND THANK YOU. OKAY. IT IS NOT POSTED TO HAVE INVOCATION BUT AS THEY SAY SUE ME. LET'S RISE FOR INVOCATION. THERE'S TOO MUCH GOING ON IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW. DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER.

THERE'S SO, MUCH PAIN AND TAXES TODAY. SO, MUCH THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR COMFORT AND HEALING AND GRACE AND COMPASSION. WILL YOU BE WITH THOSE FAMILIES WHO HAVE LOST THEIR BABIES? BE WITH ALL OF TEXAS AS WE MOURN IN OUR COUNTRY THE VIOLENCE THAT HAS ENSUED. WE GATHER HERE TODAY, FATHER, BECAUSE WE HOPE TO DO GOOD IN THE NAME OF PUBLIC SERVICE. YOU SENT YOUR SON TO BE THE GREATEST, MOST HUMBLE LIST OF SERVANTS AND WE ASK THAT YOU GUIDE US HERE TODAY AND PROTECT ALL THOSE WHO SEEK YOUR COMFORT IN HIS NAME AND PARTICULARLY WATCH OVER ALL THOSE MEN AND WOMEN BOTH NEAR AND FAR WHO WEAR UNIFORMS TO PROTECT US FATHER. WE ASK THIS THROUGH YOU IN YOUR SON'S NAME AMEN. AND NOW THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

[B. County Judge will call roll, note date, time, and location of meeting, and certify a quorum is present.]

>> OKAY A LITTLE BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING IT IS 8:42 IN THE MORNING WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, COMMISSIONER BRENT CHESNEY IS ONLINE WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT HIM AND MAKE SURE HE IS THERE

CONNIE. >> COMMISSIONER: I AM HERE.

>> JUDGE: THERE YOU ARE AND COMMISSIONER JOHN MAREZ CAN WE SEE THAT YOU ARE HERE, JUST SAY HELLO TO US. OKAY AND ALL OTHER COMMISSIONERS ARE HERE PRESENT IN THE ROOM. THE DATE IS MAY 26, 2022 AND WE ARE ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE SUPERIOR COURT AND INSIDE OUR COURTROOM TO BE SPECIFIC. WE HAVE AS I ALREADY SAID A QUORUM AND WE ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD. THIS IS A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE WATCHING GOOD WE DID HAVE A FULL DAY YESTERDAY AND AT THIS TIME IF YOU WILL LOOK TO YOUR AGENDA I NEED TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT IF THERE ARE ANY DISCLOSURES OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST ANYBODY THAT HAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT WE MAY NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS IS THE TIME THAT YOU SHOULD DECLARE IT. HOWEVER, IF YOU DISCOVER LATER IN THE MEETING IF YOU HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST IS THE LEGAL

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SEEING AND HEARING NONE. TIMOTHY? SAFETY BRIEFING?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. WE AREN'T EATING HERE ON THE THIRD FLOOR OF THE NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE. THE DRINKING FOUNTAINS ARE LOCATED THE THIRD FLOOR ATRIUM AS YOU EXIT THE HUMAN RESOURCE OFFICE. PLEASE NOTE THERE IS A FIRE EXTINGUISHER AT THE REAR OF THE COURTROOM. IN THE EVENT OF A CARDIAC EMERGENCY AND AED IS LOCATED NEXT TO THE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE. IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR DIALING 911 IS CONNIE. IN THE EVENT OF AN EVACUATION OUR EGRESS WILL BE.[INDISCERNABLE] AND ASSEMBLING IN THE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET FOR SAFETY. SHOULD THERE BE A NEED TO SHELTER IN PLACE COURT ATTENDEES WILL REMAIN IN THE COURTROOM DEPENDING ON THE SEVERITY OF THE ISSUE THE COURTROOM DOORS WILL BE REMAIN SECURED AFTER GIVING INSTRUCTION FROM THE NUECES COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES PAY THAT INCLUDES MY SAFETY

BRIEF. >> JUDGE: VERY GOOD. FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE CLERK TODAY IS A WORKSHOP AND THE MEETING SHOULD REFLECT THAT TODAY OUR WHOLE PURPOSE IS TO DISCUSS THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT AND FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH IT THAT MEANS IT IS AUTHORIZED USES. WE WILL ALSO DISCUSS PREVIOUS COUNTY ALLOCATED PROJECTS, POTENTIAL PROJECTS AND QUALIFYING USES. THESE OF COURSE INCLUDE THINGS LIKE RETENTION PAY THAT WE HAVE ALREADY DONE AND ANY OTHER

[1. Discuss the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA), its authorized uses, previous County allocated projects, potential projects, other qualifying uses, such as retention pay, and related matters.]

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[E. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]

>> PUBLIC COMMENT: THANK YOU. JUDGE AND MEMBERS OF THE COURT, I AM JOHN BYRON THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. I'M PLEASED TO BE WITH YOU THIS MORNING AND IT'S BEEN A TOUGH WEEK IN UVALDE, TEXAS. IF I AM A LITTLE RATTLED, PLEASE UNDERSTAND. IT WAS THREE BLOCKS AWAY FROM WHERE OUR GENERAL OFFICE IS THERE AND IT A TOUGH TIME FOR US.;-) FOR YOUR PRAYERS AND CONCERNS THIS MORNING, TOO, THANK YOU. LET ME TELL YOU IF I CAN GET MY PRESENTATION UP. LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE NUECES COUNTY RIVER AUTHORITY. MANY PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUECES COUNTY RIVER AUTHORITY IS AND HOW IT WAS ESTABLISHED.

WE WERE CREATED BY THETEXAS LEGISLATURE IN 1935 TO PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEVELOP WATER RESOURCES WITHIN A 17,000 SQUARE MILE OF THE NENUECES COUNTY BASIN. WE ARE TO PROVIDE, WE HAVE BROAD AUTHORITY TO PROVIDE FLOOD CONTROL, IRRIGATION, NAVIGATION, WASTEWATER TREATMENT, SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL MUNICIPAL INDUSTRIAL WATER SUPPLY WATER QUALITY CONTROL PARKS AND AND TO HELP FINANCE WE CAN ISSUE TAX-EXEMPT BONDS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND WE CAN RECEIVE STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS. AS PART OF THIS WE DON'T GET ANY STATE ALLOCATIONS OR FEDERAL ALLOCATIONS WE DON'T GET PAID UNLESS WE WORK AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. PART OF THAT WORK INCLUDED IN AGREEMENT WITH THE TEXAS AGREEMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY TO PARTICIPATE IN A CLEAN RIVERS PROGRAM. YOU WILL SEE SOME BIG CIRCLES ON THE MAP NEAR THE TWO SMALLER CIRCLES ARE THE ONES WE ARE ADDRESSING TODAY FOR THE BIGGER CIRCLE IN THE MID- BASIN WE HAVE ISSUES THERE, TOO. YOU WILL SEE THAT MOST OF THOSE ARE BACTERIA IMPAIRMENTS AND THEY WILL BE ADDRESSED AT A LATER DATE. THE OSO BASIN WE HAVE WASTEWATER DISCHARGE THEREFROM ROBS TOWN AND THEN WE HAVE ALSO SOME IN THE BATH AND BASIN THE DRISCOLL PLANT THE NEES COUNTY NUMBER 5 AND IN THE CITY OF BISHOP. ALL OF THOSE HAVE AGREED INCLUDING ROBS TOWN HAS AGREED IN AN ASSESSMENT OF THEIR EXISTING FACILITIES AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IN JUST A MOMENT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE THIS SLIDE BASICALLY TELLS US THAT WE ARE IN AN EFFORT TO IMPROVE THE SITUATION AND IN AN EFFORT TO LEARN WHAT WAS GOING ON, WE WENT OUT AND DEVELOPED A PROGRAM TO WHERE WE COULD CONTRACT IN A VERY ECONOMICAL NUMBER TO OPERATE THE PLANS FOR NUECES COUNTY NUMBER 5. THE CITY OF DRISCOLL AND THE CITY OF BISHOP BAIRD WE'VE BEEN OPERATING THOSE PLANTS NOW FOR ALMOST A YEAR AND WE FIND PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY CARING, REALLY TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. PROBLEM IS THOSE PLANTS WERE BUILT UNDER A GRANT BACK IN THE LATE 70S AND 80S WHICH WAS A GREAT GRANT PROGRAM ADMINISTERED BY EPA BACK IN THE DAY. IT BUILT A WHOLE LOT OF WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THEM. THEY HAVE REACHED THEIR OPERATIONAL LIFE THE END OF THEIR OPERATIONAL LIFE. WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO TAKE CARE OF THIS.

THE CITY OF ROBS TOWN IS UNDER THE SAME SITUATION BASICALLY.

EACH OF THE RECEIVING STRAINS THAT WE HAVE SHOWN YOU PETRONELLA AND SAN FERNANDO CREEKS WHICH BOTH SAN FERNANDO DISCHARGES INTO OSO BAY, PETRONELLA DISCHARGES INTO THE

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THE NEXT SLIDE I WILL SHOW YOU A MAP OF THE AREA WHAT LITTLE BIT WE HAVE DONE WORK WE HAVE DONE ENGINEERING WORK WE HAVE DONE HERE YOU WILL SEE AT THE TOP IS BEING CATTY TO THE RIGHT OF BEING CATTY IT LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE SOUTH ON THE MAP WOULD BE ROBS TOWN AND THEN YOU GO DOWN THAT WAY AND YOU GET DRISCOLL AND FURTHER DOWN YOU GET THE CITY OF BISHOP. WE DO KNOW THAT BEING CATTY AND ROBS TOWN BASICALLY GOES DOWN TO THE DRISCOLL AREA. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO IS LOOKING TO GET SOME FUNDING FROM NUECES COUNTY TO RUN AN ASSESSMENT ON THE BEST PLACE TO PUT A PLANT. WE ALSO NEED TO ASSESS THE PLANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO OPERATE UNTIL WE GET THIS PLANT BUILT. IT WILL TAKE US 18 MONTHS IF WE STARTED TURNING DIRT TODAY IT TAKES A WHILE. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RUN THIS ASSESSMENT SO, WE SPEND THIS MONEY WISELY AND WE GET THIS PROBLEM FIXED. THE REGIONAL WASTEWATER FACILITY THAT WILL BE OWNED BY NRA UNDER OUR TEAM OF OPERATORS LED BY CLASSE OPERATOR WHICH IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF OPERATOR LICENSE YOU CAN GET IN THE STATE. THE PLANT WILL BE A 3 MILLION PER DAY PLANT WITH COMMON WALL CONSTRUCTION SO, IT CAN BE EXPANDED QUICKLY AND EASILY AND ECONOMICALLY. $35 MILLION FOR THE PLANT AND THEN THERE WILL BE MONEY INCLUDED IN THIS. THIS IS FOR THE TRANSPORTATION WHICH WILL BE ABOUT $70,000,500 WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING TO SPEND.

IF WE WERE TO GET THE $3.5 MILLION THE RETURN ON THAT SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 20 TIMES AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE PAYROLL FOR CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES AND PARTS AND SUPPLIES AND FACILITIES AND CONCRETE AND EVERYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO BUILD A PLANT. HIS PEOPLE ARE IN DESPERATE NEED. OSO BAY IS IN DESPERATE NEED. WE ASK YOU HIGHLY CONSIDER GRANTING THIS MONEY AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT IT IS USED TO ITS ULTIMATE ABILITY.

>> JUDGE: JOHN, THANK YOU SO, MUCH HANG OUT WITH US IN THIS WORKSHOP. I HAVE ABOUT THREE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANT TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT BUT WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THESE PROJECTS AND IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL FOR YOU TO BE A RESOURCE IN THE ROOM. IN A WAY ANYTIME YOU ARE LOOKING INTO THAT MORE TECHNICAL INFORMATION I'M GLAD YOU GAVE THE HISTORY AND POWERPOINT. WE SHARE THAT? THERE ARE TWO ONLINE.

COMMISSIONERS ONLINE YOU ARE ABOUT TO GET WHAT WE JUST HAD BECAUSE YOU MIGHT WANT TO REFER TO IT LATER ON. AT THIS MOMENT I AM GOING TO CALL LARRY FIRKIN FOLLOWED BY BOBBY CHESTNUT AND DANIEL SAMORA. AS WE WORKSHOP THROUGH IT IS A WORKSHOP. YOU CAN MAKE SOME COMMENTS. IF YOU GENTLEMEN WANT TO, I KNOW YOU ARE HERE FOR DRAINAGE, IF YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL WE TALK DRAINAGE NO PROBLEM BUT YOU ARE ALSO WELCOME NOW. WAIT? HOW ABOUT DANIEL SAMORA. THERE YOU ARE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.[CHUCKLE] SUPER. LET'S DO THIS. ONLINE WITH US, THIS WILL REALLY HELP EVERYBODY SET THE STAGE FOR THIS DISCUSSION.

IN OUR PACKET AND ON THE AGENDA BACK UP ONLINE I'VE GOT KATHLEEN WHITE RAISING HER HAND FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. GO AHEAD MISS WHITE. WE WILL LET HER UNMUTE. I'M GOING TO SIGN

UP. >> GUEST SPEAKER: I THINK I AM UNMUTE IT NOW. COUNTY JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS I AM HERE AGAIN. I KNOW Y'ALL MIGHT BE TIRED OF HEARING FROM ME BUT I'M HERE AGAIN TO BE AN ADVOCATE FOR THE NONPROFITS IN THE COMMUNITY. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THESE FUNDS FOR THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ARE TO INCLUDE HELP FOR THOSE

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CHARITIES PLAY A BIG SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. THEY DO SO, MUCH TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR CITIZENS TO PROVIDE EDUCATION AND LEARNING FOR THE YOUNG AND OLD. EDUCATION NEEDS, MEDICAL NEEDS, BASIC NEEDS AND I AM HERE TODAY TO SAY, PLEASE SET ASIDE A SMALL PERCENTAGE FOR PERCENT OF THE FUNDS YOU HAVE AVAILABLE WOULD BE $2 MILLION OR FIVE PERCENT B2.5 MILLION AND THAT'S A SMALL PERCENTAGE TO SET ASIDE THE ECONOMIC LOSSES THEY HAVE SUSTAINED. IN ADDITIONTION I JUST HEARD D THE NUECES COUNTY RIVER AUTHORITY TALK AND IN ADDITION TO THE NONPROFIT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT. I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET DOCTOR MIKE WITH THE HEART INSTITUTE AND WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN IS TALKING ABOUT WITH THE DATE AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN THOSE SMALL COMMUNITIES, THEY CAN'T OPERATE THOSE THINGS EFFICIENTLY. IT IS IMPORTANT TO DEATH AND BAY AND OTHER AREAS THAT I'M NOT MILLION WITH TO MAINTAIN A GOOD WATER QUALITY. WE GET MOST OF THE BLACK DRUM THAT WE EAT IN RESTAURANTS IN OUR HOMES FROM THE BAY AND ITS DESPERATELY NEEDED TO IMPROVE THE SEWAGE PLANTS AROUND THERE IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT BATH AND BAY CONTINUES TO PROVIDE THIS SOURCE OF FOOD TO OUR COMMUNITIES. SO, PLEASE CONSIDER A SET ASIDE TODAY FOR CHARITIES TO HELP THEM RECOVER FROM THEIR LOSSES. I THINK, 4 TO 5 PERCENT WOULD BE A REASONABLE REQUEST AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THE COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND THE EFFORTS THAT YOU ALL DO TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS. THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE: THANK YOU SO, MUCH. OKAY. YES MA'AM?

>> PUBLIC COMMENT: MAY I ADD MY NAME TO THE LIST, BETTY?

>> JUDGE: YES, BETTY SHEETS? >> PUBLIC COMMENT: YES JUDGE.

>> JUDGE: YOU MAPROCEED. >> PUBLIC COMMENT: THANK YOU JUDGE. WHAT MS. WHITE HAS PRESENTED I THINK THIS IS A FAIR ASKING. FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS CHARITIES HAVE LOST TREMENDOUS MONEY AND IT IS DUE TO COVID, THE GAME ROOMS THAT CAME IN AND AS A RESULT OF THIS, PERSONALLY I WILL TELL YOU IT HAS HURT ME TREMENDOUSLY. IT IS BECAUSE I HELP MOTHERS AND BABIES WITH FOOD, FORMULA AND MEDICATION AND I CANNOT TURN THESE PEOPLE AWAY AND AS A RESULT I WENT INTO MY OWN FUNDS WHICH HAS COST ME DEARLY BUT ALL DO IT EVERY DAY IF I HAVE TO. I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD REALLY CONSIDER THIS BECAUSE JUST A MINIMAL EXAMPLE TODAY I WENT TO BUY A CAN OF FORMULA THAT WAS VERY WELL NEEDED.

THERE WERE THREE CANS ON THE SHELF AND I ONLY TOOK ONE OF THEM AND IT WAS $28. SIX MONTHS AGO IT WAS ONLY $8.75.

MEDICATIONS HAVE GONE UP EVERYTHING AS YOU ALL KNOW EVEN IN YOUR OWN FIELD HAS GONE UP. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU CONSIDERING US FOR THIS GRANT. THANK YOU JUDGE AND THANK YOU

COMMISSIONERS. >> JUDGE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYONE ELSE? I THINK THERE IS MULC BALD ONE JUDGE. MISS MARG

AND PLEASE PROCEED. >> PUBLIC COMMENT: THANK YOU.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. I KNOW LIKE KATHLEEN SAID YOU HAVE HEARD FROM US A BUNCH AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US AGAIN . WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT THERE'S A SET ASIDE FOR 4 TO 5 PERCENT FOR THE CHARITIES IN NUECES COUNTY AS WE HAVE SPOKE FOR WE CAN DEMONSTRATE REAL ECONOMIC

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>> JUDGE: YES MA'AM, THANK YOU SO, MUCH. COMMISSIONERS YOU ARE NEXT. REMEMBER IT IS A WORKSHOP AND IF IT'S ABOUT OUR VALUE DON'T HAVE TO SIGN UP. I CAN WRITE IT DOWN BUT YOU ARE FREE TO TALK YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT: I GUESS FOR MY PART, DO WE TALK ABOUT WHAT

WE WANT AND THEN GO BACK - >> JUDGE: I JUST FIGURED LET THE PUBLIC DO THEIR PUBLIC COMMENT BUT WHAT I WILL DO NEXT IS THERE IS A SMALL BACKGROUND THAT IS IN YOUR FOLDER THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE BEFORE WE START IGNORING OUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO NEXT YEAR SO, WHAT I WAS PLANNING ON DOING WAS CALLING ON RACHEL NO BLOCK WHO PREPARED THIS FOR YOU AND RUN THROUGH IT. LET'S ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS START TALKING ABOUT I BET EACH OF US CAN TAKE A SUBJECT MATTER AND YOU COULD

START. >> PUBLIC COMMENT: DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE MY RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT I'M LOOKING AT?

>> JUDGE: WHY DON'T WE DO THIS AND THEN GO STRAIGHT TO YOU.

SINCE WE HAVEN'T HEARD WHAT MONEY IS AVAILABLE LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET THAT SUMMARY OUT AND THEN WE WILL GO TO Y'ALL.

IS THAT A GOOD IDEA MAC FOR THE FOLKS WHO HAVE WAITED WILL GET TO HEAR IT, TO AND THEN LET'S HYPOTHETICALLY SAY THAT COMMISSIONER JOE GONZALEZ TALKS ABOUT DRAINAGE THAT WOULD BE A PERFECT TIME FOR YOU TO SAY I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE MY COMMENTS ON DRAINAGE, FOR EXAMPLE. WE WILL WORK IT THAT WAY SO, LET'S MOVE TO RACHEL. I NEED THIS ON THE BOARD SO, ALL THE AUDIENCE CAN SEE THAT THIS IS IN THE AGENDA. MINE IS IN COLOR.

AFTER YESTERDAY MY EYES ARE REALLY STRAINED. GOOD MORNING TO YOU, RACHEL AND WE ARE GOING TO ASK YOU YOU HAVE A SUMMARY FOR US? IT TAKES US THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY, IT TELLS US HOW WE HAVE ALREADY DIDN'T SOME MONEY AND I THINK THAT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO START THAT WAY EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THE STARTING POINT IS AND THAT ONE IS SO, SMALL. LET ME SEE.

THANK YOU THERE YOU GO. PERFECT. RACHEL, YOU MAY UNMUTE AND GET US GOING. COMMISSIONER IT IS COMING YOUR

WAY. TOM B IS ON AS WELL. >> GUEST SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING.

LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO GET STARTED. I DO SEE

THAT THE POWERPOINT IS UP. >> JUDGE: YES.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: THIS POWERPOINT PRESENTATION IS THE ALLOCATION OF THE SPREADSHEET THAT WAS ONLINE AS WELL. THEY INCLUDE THE SAME INFORMATION. THIS PRESENTATION PROVIDES A VISUAL OVERVIEW OF THE ARPA FUNDS INCLUDED IN THAT SPREADSHEET THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED TO DATE FOLLOWED BY AS THE JUDGE MENTIONED SOME INSIGHT INTO COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED TODAY BASED ON CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND PRACTITIONERS AND COURT MEMBERS AS WELL AS DEPARTMENT LEADERS RELATED TO WHERE THEY WANT THE ARPA FUNDS TO GO. AS WELL AS

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AS POSSIBLE. >> JUDGE: RACHEL, LET ME STOP YOU RIGHT THERE BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. SOMETIMES WE HAVE ALL DAY BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T. WERE JUST GOING UNTIL NOON. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. WHAT I HEAR YOU SAY IN PLAIN ENGLISH IS THAT WE GOT $70 MILLION AND WE HAVE REMAINING TOTAL ALLOCATED IS 14.7. WE HAVE SPENT 14.7 MILLION ALREADY AND YOU HAVE BACKUP DOCUMENTATION ON THAT BUT WHAT IS REMAINING IS 55 MILLION? IS THAT CORRECT? LET'S START THERE.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: THAT IS CORRECT.

>> JUDGE: SO, EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE. THE MATH PROBLEM STARTS AT 55 MILLION. OKAY? YOU ALSO SAY THAT T THE TOTAL ALLOCATED TO REVENUE LOST IS 3.1. WE HAVE A BUCKET OF $10 MILLION THAT WE HAVE ALLOWED AND WE HAVE ALREADY SPENT OUT OF THAT 10 MILLION BUCKET 3.1 AND WE HAVE 6.8 LEFT AND THAT IS WHERE MOST OF THE FLEXIBILITY IS. THAT IS THE LOST REVENUE EQUALS GOVERNMENT SERVICES. WHEN IT COMES TO INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT $6.8 MILLION. IF THERE IS NO OTHER ELIGIBILITY FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. IF IT IS JUST YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF SOMETHING. IF IT DOESN'T HAVE A NEXUS TO MENTAL HEALTH OR WASTEWATER OR BROADBAND THAT'S WHAT'S LEFT 6.83 IS THAT

CORRECT? >> GUEST SPEAKER: THAT IS CORRECT. SO, JUST ON THIS PAGE COMMISSIONERS BEFORE SHE MOVES

ON ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >> COMMISSIONER: WOULD YOU BREAK DOWN WHAT THE 60 MILLION IT SAYS TOTAL ALLOCATED EC 135

PROJECTS? >> JUDGE: DO YOU WANT TO BREAK

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DOWN WHAT YOU ALREADY SPENT? >> COMMISSIONER: NUMBER I JUST WANT TO SHOW WHAT THE EC ONE THROUGH FIVE ARE. IT'S BEEN ALLOCATED TO REVENUE LOSS, THERE IS THE MIND DID NOT PRINT REALLY WELL. THERE'S 10 MILLION FOR REVENUE LOST PROJECTS AND THEN THERE IS EC ONE THROUGH FIVE AND I WANTED

TO GO THROUGH THAT. >> JUDGE: RACHEL, CAN YOU DO THAT FOR US? IT'S ON THE NEXT PAGE BUT I WANTED TO SHOW IT.

WE HAVE 60 MILLION THAT CAN GO TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND THESE FIVE CATEGORIES. PUBLIC HEALTH NEGATIVE IMPACT IMPROVING SET YOUR WATER, SEWER AND BROADBAND. THOSE ARE THE ONES

THROUGH SIX. >> JUDGE: E1 THROUGH FIVE.

>> WHERE ARE SIX AND SEVEN? AGAIN, I AM SORRY. MY CUT OFF WHEN IT PRINTED WRONG. IT IS TOO WIDE. SIX IS REVENUE LOSS AND SEVEN IS ADMINISTRATIVE? SO, ARE THESE NUMBERS BELOW?

>> JUDGE: THOSE REPRESENT, RACHEL, SO, EVERYONE KNOWS, THOSE REPRESENT WHERE WE HAVE ALREADY ALLOCATED. TO THOSE BOTTOM NUMBERS? GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. B2 THESE ARE THE CATEGORIES THAT WE HAVE 60 MILLION TOTAL FOUR.

>> JUDGE: NOT 60 BUT WHAT WE HAVE LEFT.

>> COMMISSIONER: 60/70. IT'S HARD TO GO BACK AND FORTH OVER THE SCREEN TO GO DOWN AGAIN AND SORRY. SO, DOWN HERE IT SAYS

THAT WE HAVE TOTAL ALLOCATED. >> JUDGE: WE HAVE SPENT THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER: THAT 60 MILLION. >> JUDGE: WE HAVE

SPENT 10. >> COMMISSIONER: RIGHT HERE SO, HE1 THROUGH FIVE IS HOW MUCH WE CAN SPEND AND THEN WE SPENT 10 AND THEN EC ONE THROUGH FIVE AND THEN 10 FOR REVENUE LOSS AND WE HAVE SPENT THREE? SO, WHEN YOU SAY TOTAL ALLOCATED TO EC ONE THROUGH FIVE DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE HAVEN'T ALLOCATED

ANYTHING FOR SIX AND SEVEN? >> GUEST SPEAKER: YES. IF YOU SCROLL DOWN ON THIS SLIDE, ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE YOU HAD THE MILLION TO ALLOCATE TO PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT LOST REVENUE.

>> COMMISSIONER: OKAY. >> GUEST SPEAKER: GOING DOWN TO E3 SIX. YOU HAVE 10 MILLION UNDER E3 SIX REVENUE LOSS. OF THAT 10 MILLION AVAILABLE, YOU HAVE ALLOCATED 2.2 MILLION TO TWO PROJECTS AND THAT IS THE IT UPGRADE AND VISA SYSTEM PROJECT. ON THIS SLIDE YOU HAVE 890,000 ALLOCATED TO WATER, SEWER AND BROAD AND PROJECTS. BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED PROJECT SYSTEMS AND CONDUCTED A THOROUGH ESTIMATION YET, THAT MAY MOVE INTO A REVENUE LOSS PROJECT WHICH WILL IS WHY ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE REVENUE LOSS TOTAL IS 3 MILLION BECAUSE WE INCLUDED THE STORMWATER EQUIPMENT UNDER REVENUE LOSS AS A POTENTIAL CONTINGENCY. TO DATE YOU HAVE LIKELY ALLOCATED 3,000,002 LOST REVENUE PROJECTS PENDING FURTHER ANALYSIS ON THAT STORMWATER EQUIPMENT AND IT

UPGRADE. >> COMMISSIONER: AS LONG AS SOMETHING FITS UNDER CATEGORIES ONE THROUGH SEVEN I.E.

INFRASTRUCTURE, WE COULD IF THE COURT WANTED TO WE COULD DO ALL THE REST OF IT TO INFRASTRUCTURE AND BE OKAY UNDER THIS PLAN? IS THAT CORRECT?

>> JUDGE: NUMBER. >> GUEST SPEAKER: WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY INFRASTRUCTURE, COMMISSIONER?

>> COMMISSIONER: WATER, SEWER, BROADBAND?

>> COMMISSIONER: BUILDING? >> JUDGE: YOU HAVE TO DEFINE IT BUT IT HAS TO BE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS MAY BE LET'S GET INTO WHAT YOU WANT TO SPEND AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. LET'S

FINISH THE REST OF IT. >> COMMISSIONER: I WANT TO MAKE

SURE I'M CLEAR. >> JUDGE: THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THE HARDEST ONE IT HAS TO BE WATER, WASTEWATER, STORMWATER DRAINAGE OR SEWER OR A MENTAL HEALTH NEXUS. OTHERWISE IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO RUN INTO LOST REVENUE. THAT LOST REVENUE IS THE SMALLEST POT FOR THE BIGGEST TICKET ITEMS AND THAT'S WHERE IT GETS TRICKY. LIKE, LET'S JUST TAKE BRISCOE KING

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>> COMMISSIONER: ALL THAT STUFF IS INFRASTRUCTURE.

>> JUDGE: A LOT OF STUFF THAT I'M USING THAT AS A GOOD EXAMPLE. BRISCOE KING DOES NOT HAVE A COMPONENT OF MUCH BUT INFRASTRUCTURE. IT JUST - I HAVE THOUGHT REALLY LONG AND HARD ABOUT IT. IT NEEDS TO BE IN THAT BUCKET OF LOST REVENUE BECAUSE IT DOES NOT INTO WATER, SEWER OR BROADBAND. IT DOES NOT FIT INTO MENTAL HEALTH ALTHOUGH YOU COULD MAKE A NICE ARGUMENT OR IT BUT IT WOULD BE A LONG HAUL UNLESS YOU MADE IT A WELLNESS CENTER. IT REALLY IS INSIDE THAT REVENUE LOSS.

>> COMMISSIONER: PARTIALLY. YOU COULD CERTAINLY ARGUE THAT WATER, SEWER, BROADBAND AND INFRASTRUCTURE COULD.

>> JUDGE: BROADBAND MEANS IT'S NOT WI-FI.

>> COMMISSIONER: THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK HER, WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF INFRASTRUCTURE?

>> COMMISSIONER: JUDGE CAN I ADD ON THIS?

>> JUDGE: YES, TOM. >> COMMISSIONER: MY TEAM MADE A REFERENCE GUIDE, WOULD IT BE USEFUL IF I SENT THAT OUT TO BE USED OVER THE COURSE OF THE REMAINDER OF THE DISCUSSION

TODAY? >> COMMISSIONER: THAT WOULD BE GREAT, I WOULD LIKE TO

SEE IT. ONE GO AHEAD. >> COMMISSIONER: THE MAIN THING IS THAT WATER OBJECTS HAVE TO TIEBACK TO CLEAN WATER OR DRINKING WATER REVOLVING FUND OR BE RELATED TO PROVIDING SERVICE TO NEW AREAS. IT SEWER PROJECTS AND STORMWATER PROJECTS ALSO HAVE TIEBACK TO REVOLVING FUNDS OR GENERAL WATER QUALITY ISSUES AND THEN BROADBAND PROJECTS HAVE TO BE FIBER IN THE GROUND THAT INCREASE SPEEDS TO CERTAIN SPECIFIED UPLOAD AND DOWNLOAD. THEY CAN'T JUST BE WI-FI FOR CYBERSECURITY IMPROVEMENTS. I WILL GO AHEAD AND SEND THAT

DOCUMENT OUT RIGHT NOW. >> JUDGE: WE HAVE A GREAT BREAKDOWN OF THE MONEY WE HAVE ALLOCATED WHICH IS TOTALING 14.7. THE MAJORITY OF THAT CAME FROM OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT RETENTION PROGRAM AND PLUS OUR COUNTYWIDE PREMIUM PAY PLUS OTHER ITEMS THAT THE COURT AUTHORIZED AND APPROPRIATED OVER THE WORST OF THE LAST YEAR. THAT BREAKDOWN WAS AVAILABLE FOR TODAY'S DISCUSSION. IT'S GOOD TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE STARTING AND HOW MUCH OF THE LOST REVENUE OF WHAT WE ALREADY ALLOCATED IS SOMEWHAT COMMITTED. THAT IS

WHAT THAT YELLOW BOX IS. >> COMMISSIONER: CAN YOU ALSO DEFINE IMPROVING PUBLIC CAPACITY SECTOR?

>> JUDGE: HD THREE? >> COMMISSIONER: YES. I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS. IMPROVING PUBLIC CAPACITY WHAT'S THE

DEFINITION OF THAT? >> GUEST SPEAKER: YES. EC THREE IS A NEW CATEGORY THAT CAME OUT WITH A FINAL RULE GUIDANCE AND THAT ALLOWS RECIPIENTS TO SPEND THE RECOVERY FUNDS ON PROJECTS DESIGNED TO IMPROVE PUBLIC SECTOR CAPACITY PAIRED WHAT THOSE PROJECTS LOOK LIKE ARE WE HIRING STAFF THAT LOST THEIR JOBS DUE TO COVID-19, FILLING NEW POSITIONS THAT SUPPORT YOUR CAPACITY SO, YOU HAD NEW ATTORNEYS COME IN AND. YOU HAD THE OFFICERS AND THIS IS WHERE THEY ALLOW YOU TO USE FUNDS FOR RETENTION BONUS PROGRAMS, LAW ENFORCEMENT PROGRAMS. THIS IS JUST SUPPORTING YOUR WORKFORCE AS WELL AS YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE NEEDS THAT WERE EXACERBATED BY THE PANDEMIC. SUPPORTING DATA SERVICES TO SUPPORT COMMUNITIES, ACCESSING PROGRAMS FUNDED BY THE STATE FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDS. OVERALL PROVIDING SUPPORT THAT YOU ALL

PROVIDE TO THE COUNTY. >> COMMISSIONER: THAT IS GOOD FOR NOW. I DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO SPENDING, I JUST HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PRESENTATION. I AM GOOD JUDGE.

>> JUDGE: AWESOME. WE WILL CONTINUE TO THE ONLY THING IS THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS HERE TO TALK ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH. DO YOU SEE, THE VERBIAGE MENTAL HEALTH IS NOT HERE BUT WE KNOW THAT IT IS A HUGE COMPONENT OF THE ACT ITSELF. WOULD YOU HELP EXPLAIN WHERE OR HOW THOSE FIT IN IN THESE BOXES? HOW THOSE

ITEMS OR PROJECTS? >> GUEST SPEAKER: YES. UNDER EXPENDITURE CATEGORY 1 RECIPIENTS ARE ABLE TO USE THE RECOVERY FUNDS TO RESPOND TO THE IMPACT OF COVID-19 ON THE PUBLIC HEALTH RESPONSE. THIS CAN INCLUDE COVID-19 MITIGATION

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AND THE IMPACT IT HAS HAD. >> JUDGE: SUPER. THE NEXT TWO SLIDES I THINK ARE SLIDES THAT WE HAVE BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE COURT WANTS TO SPEND TIME ON IT BUT YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND HIGHLIGHT THAT THEY ARE WITH US? TELL EVERYONE WHAT THEY ARE. WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THEM COURT, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE HERE FOR. GO AHEAD.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: SURE. AS A BACKGROUND FOR EVERYTHING THAT THE COURT FUNDS, OUR TEAM AND DEPARTMENT THAT IS ADMINISTRATING THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT ON YOUR SIDE WE TRY TO IDENTIFY THE COMMUNITY IMPACT DID AND WHETHER THERE IS SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR THAT PROJECT. ONE PLACE THAT WE LOOK IS RESULTS FROM THE ONLINE SURVEY THEY CAN SEE HERE AND THESE ARE THE PRIORITIES THAT RESPOND TO COUNTY RESIDENTS THAT THEY PROVIDED INFORMATION ON WHAT THEY WERE ASKED. WE SEE GOVERNMENT SERVICES, EDUCATION, HEALTH, INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHEN WE ARE EVALUATING THE IMPACT OF PROJECTS THIS IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT TO DETERMINE WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS ARE. ON THE NEXT SLIDE WE ALSO HAVE THE RESULTS FROM THE IN PERSON ENGAGEMENTS AND IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY CAME TO THOSE EVENTS THESE WERE THE PRIORITIES THAT CAME OUT OF THE CONVERSATION FROM THE FOR IN PERSON LISTENING SESSIONS WE SEE THE SAME PRIORITIES POP UP AND THIS IS WHAT THE COUNTY RESIDENTS CARED ABOUT HEALTH, DRAINAGE STORMWATER AND SAME PROJECTS COMING UP TO SUPPORT THE ROYALTIES AND FUNDING ALLOCATIONS.

>> JUDGE: OKAY. THANK YOU. THEY ARE HERE TO BE A HUGE RESOURCE TO US BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE HERE SO, WE CAN GET GOING. I'M GOING TO CALL ON BOBBY CHESTNUT HERE AND LARRY FIRKIN SO, WE CAN START THE CONVERSATION. I DO SUPPORT A COUNTYWIDE DRAINAGE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY AY WE CAN GET TO WHERE WE CAN CLEAN THESE DITCHES AND CULVERTS AND TO DO THAT WE NEED DOLLARS AND THANK GOODNESS THESE DOLLARS ACTUALLY HAVE WATER AND DRAINAGE AS A PRESET.

WITH THAT, HOW DO YOU PROCEED? >> COMMISSIONER: THE QUESTION IS NOW THAT WE HAVE SEEN THE SLIDES HAS THE MONEY ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED FOR THE DRAINAGE AND DITCHES? NOTHING HAS BEEN DISPERSED? WE WERE UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO THE COURT SAID THAT THE MONEY WAS THERE I FORGET, 2 MILLION, 6 MILLION, SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAD BEEN ALLOCATED AND SOME WORK WAS DONE AND IF YOU ARE MEMBER, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, WE ASKED AT THAT TIME WE HAD A PROJECTS GOING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR DRAINAGE AND IT STOPPED AND WHEN WE ASKED YOU SAID NO IT WAS GOING TO CONTINUE.

>> JUDGE: I THINK THOSE WERE INDIVIDUAL BUT LET'S JUST CLEAR THE AIR DID THE PURPOSE FOR TODAY IS TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME FUNDS ALLOCATED FOR THE BIG CONTRACT. BUT I THINK EACH COMMISSIONER MIGHT HAVE, DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT? I THINK

HE MIGHT HAVE SOME FUNDS. >> COMMISSIONER: I AM TRYING TO APPROPRIATE FUNDS AND I DO SPEND MY MONEY WISELY IN MY AREA BUT I THINK WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS WHEN THE ASSOCIATES WERE HERE YOU WENT TO THE BACK ROOM AND THEY EXPLAINED TO YOU WHY ONE PORTION OF MY AREA WAS EXCLUDED BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN THE WATERSHED. I HAVE GIVEN ONE AT $55,000 TO THE ASSOCIATES TO THE STUDY TO INCLUDE THE AREA AND IT TURNS OUT THIS TRI-COUNTY STUDY HAD BEEN GOING ON SINCE 2020 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THERE WAS A GRANT.

SO, THEY TOOK MY $155,000, TOOK THE GRANT MONEY, DID THE STUDY BUT THEN DID NOT INCLUDE THE PORTION OF MY AREA. SO, RIGHT NOW I AM IN THE PROCESS OF ASKING THEM FOR MY MONEY BACK AND I WAS TOLD THAT MAYBE I CAN PULL IT OUT OF THE GRANDSON IT IS MONEY THAT IS ALREADY SPENT. BUT THAT'S WHERE I MET WITH IT.

I AM TRYING TO GET MY MONEY'S AND DO THE BEST I CAN WITH THE AREA. I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE A YEAR AND SIX MONTHS. USED TO WORK FOR THE COUNTY FOR 22 YEARS AND ALL I HEARD FROM COMMISSIONERS COURTS AND PEOPLE WHO WOULD COMPLAIN THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO DO THE STUDIES AND NOTHING WOULD GET DONE.

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>> JUDGE: I THINK MR. CHESTNUT WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE WAS WORK DONE. I THOUGHT THERE WAS SOME WORK DONE OF THE CLEANING OF THE DITCHES AND THAT'S ALL THEY ARE TALKING

ABOUT. >> GUEST SPEAKER: THEY CAME AND DOUG THE DITCHES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE PROBLEM THERE WAS, MY QUESTION WAS, WE WERE TOLD OR MISUNDERSTOOD THAT THE APPROPRIATION MONEY HAD ALREADY BEEN GIVEN FOR PART OF THIS WORK. WHEN WE ASKED IF THE WORK WAS GOING TO CONTINUE, THIS WAS BACK LAST FALL AND THE COURT SAID YES THAT IT WAS GOING TO CONTINUE BUT THAT PROJECT WAS NOT GOING TO STOP BUT IT HAS STOPPED. MY QUESTION MAINLY IS, DO WE HAVE THE FUNDS YET OR IS THIS PART OF THE PROCESS OF ALLOCATING

ALL OF THE FUNDS? >> JUDGE: TO ME WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS THIS IS THE ALLOCATION FOR THE RFP. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A STUDY AND HE'S TALKING ABOUT ACTUAL DIRT

BEING MOVED AND TURNED. >> GUEST SPEAKER: I WAS WONDERING HOW THE FUNDS WERE BEING APPROPRIATED AND SPENT.

>> COMMISSIONER: I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING. HE SAID HE GAVE UP 155,000 FOR THE STUDY WHERE HE COULD HAVE USED THAT 155,002 HIRE SOMEONE, EMPLOYEES OR WHATEVER TO GO AHEAD AND CLEAN THE DITCHES AND THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING HE IS SAYING AND WE WERE IN THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MONEY WAS ALREADY THERE FOR THE PROJECT.

>> JUDGE: WHAT WE SHOULD DO ON THAT SPECIFIC YOU CAN ASK WANT TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT IT. IF SOMEBODY MOVED DIRT THERE HAD TO BE A PROJECT THAT WAS FUNDED HERE AND SO, WE ARE ALREADY WORKING ON THAT. GO AHEAD I'M GOING TO LET YOU

FINISH SO, WE CAN MOVE ON. >> COMMISSIONER: JUDGE, THE WAY I FUNDED IT WAS FROM MY BUDGET. WE RENTED TWO OR THREE GRADE OFFICE AT $3000 PER DAY $3000 TO BRING THEM DOWN BUT IT WASN'T MONEY THAT WAS IN MY BUDGET SO, I THOUGHT I WOULD PUT IT TO GOOD USE AND TRY TO HELP Y'ALL.

>> COMMISSIONER: I'M NOT BEING DESTRUCTIVE, THE WORK THAT WAS DONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NOT HELP THE PROBLEM AT ALL.

THERE STILL A RESTRICTION AT THE BACK. WE ARE GETTING OFF OF THE MEETING. MY QUESTION WAS.

>> JUDGE: TODAY WAS THE DAY. >> COMMISSIONER: RIGHT. TODAY WE FOUND OUT THAT THE MONEY WAS NOT ACTUALLY ALLOCATED FROM THE PROJECT. HE WAS USING HIS BUDGET MONEY FOR THAT.

>> JUDGE: THAT IS CORRECT. >> COMMISSIONER: THE OTHER QUESTION I HAS DULLY HAVE IS CAN YOU EXPLAIN LOST REVENUE

AND HOW IT COMES ABOUT? >> JUDGE: YES. WHEN THE ORIGINAL ACT WHEN CONGRESS APPROPRIATED IT AND I'M GOING TO LET RACHEL PIPE IN HERE THE QUICK VERSION WAS IF CONGRESS APPROPRIATED THE ACT THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO AS COUNTIES AND CITIES WERE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE THE FUNDS BE ABLE TO CALCULATE OUR ROOF LOST REVENUE AND BE ABLE TO USE THAT LOST REVENUE FOR CERTAIN PERMISSIVE ACT CITIES THAT WORDS ALREADY SPECIFIED IN THE ACT. SO, FOR US, MAINLY FEES AND FINES THE COURTS WHEN THEY'RE NOT OPERATIONAL WE ARE JUST COMPLETELY DURING COVID IT REALLY SHUT DOWN. SO, OUR ACCOUNTANTS BASICALLY CALCULATED LOST REVENUE BUT THEN IN JANUARY CONGRESS NOT CONGRESS THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY THAT ALLOCATES THAT THESE DOLLARS AND -SETS FORTH

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>> COMMISSIONER: THEY WANT YOU ON THE MIC SIR.

>> JUDGE: MISS CONNIE WANT YOU ON THE MIC.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: SOME GOVERNMENT ENTITIES WHEN THEY GRANT LIKE $60 MILLION FOR A PROJECT, THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW BY THE TIME THE ENTITIES GET PEOPLE ON BOARD, FOR INSTANCE, SECRETARIES, TREASURES, CARS, TRUCKS, IF DOWN TO 10 MILLION IN THE MONEY IS ALL GONE AND THEN NOTHING GETS DONE. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING WHY THIS IS CALLED

PUBLIC REVENUE? >> JUDGE: FOR EXAMPLE WHEN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY STARTED THIS YEAR SHE SAID I NEED ANOTHER COUNTY ATTORNEY THE BUDGET WASN'T FLEXIBLE. WE WERE ABLE TO USE GOVERNMENT SERVICES EQUALS LOST REVENUE. SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS TO HELP HIRE THOSE PEOPLE AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT WE ARE STARTING TODAY'S WORKSHOP WITH SOME DOLLARS ALREADY EXPENDED. DON'T GET ME WRONG IT WENT TO COURT AND GOT BEDDED. SO, THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER: THANK YOU. >> JUDGE: U VET.

>> COMMISSIONER: I'M CONFUSED. >> JUDGE: ON HIS DITCH?

>> COMMISSIONER: SO, Y'ALL LIVE IN ROBSTOWN? IT IS A ROBSTOWN

ADDRESS? >> JUDGE: IT IS A POSTAL DEAL.

AMAZON HAS A ROBSTOWN. >> COMMISSIONER: YOU ARE NOT IN

THE CITY LIMITS OF ROBSTOWN? >> COMMISSIONER:

MICROPHONE]. >> JUDGE: IS ONLY FOR POSTAL

CODE SERVICES HERE. >> COMMISSIONER: YOU VOTE IN THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI? YOU VOTE IN THE CITY OF

ROBSTOWN? >> COMMISSIONER:

MICROPHONE] >> COMMISSIONER: YOU WERE IN

ROBSTOWN CITY LIMITS? >> JUDGE: THEY ARE

UNINCORPORATED. >> COMMISSIONER: YOU ARE IN THE ET J? DOES THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT OUT THERE NOT HAVE

ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS AREA? >> COMMISSIONER:

MICROPHONE] >> JUDGE: NUMBER 2 IT IS CALLED

DD TO. >> COMMISSIONER: THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT IS NOT COVER ANY OF YOUR AREA OUT THERE NOR THE CITY OF ROBSTOWN? THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET CLEAR.

>> JUDGE: IT IS CONFUSING. IT IS ALL POSTAL RELATED. OKAY, WE HAVEN'T GIVEN YOU YOUR 3 MINUTES YOU ARE ENTITLED TO THEM OR YOU CAN HANG BACK MORE AS WE TALK ABOUT DRAINAGE.

EITHER WAY. >> GUEST SPEAKER: I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT MR. HERNANDEZ TALKED ABOUT WHERE HIS FUNDS WERE OUT OF THE BLUE TAKEN WITHOUT HIS -WITHOUT HIM

EVEN KNOWING? >> COMMISSIONER: ONE THING WAS, I WAS ADVISED TO DO A STUDY IN THAT AREA OF MY PRECINCT BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO APPLY FOR GRANT. I WAS TOLD IF YOU DO THIS STUDY SO, WHEN THE GRANTS COME UP YOU WOULD BE AHEAD OF THE GAME AND WE HAVE ALREADY DONE THE WORK. WELL, I DID THAT NOT KNOWING THAT THERE WAS A TRI-COUNTY STUDY, WATER

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WE WENT IN THE JUDGE'S OFFICE. >> COMMISSIONER: WE WERE TAKEN TO THE BACK LOUIS. WE MET WITH HASS ASSOCIATES AND ASSOCIATE.

WE NEVER MET WITH THEM. >> COMMISSIONER: THAT WAS MAY 10 AND IT STILL IS AND I PAID THAT 155,000 AND I COULD NOT GET THE X NATION FROM ONE ON WHAT WAS OWING ON.

>> JUDGE: HERE'S THE BOTTOM LINE THEY HAD WORKED ON IN THEIR AREA WHERE ACTUAL DITCHES WERE CLEANED AND THEN THE WORK STOP. JUST SO, WE CAN GET ON TRACK, CAN YOU HELP WITH THAT?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS THE WORK NEVER STOPPED IT WAS COMPLETED IT WAS COMPLETED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND AGAIN, WE HAVE CLEANED OUT THE DITCHES IN THE DOWNSTREAM SIDE WHICH WAS PART OF THE ROTC WHICH ASSISTED US LAST YEAR AND THEN WE WENT BACK AND CLEANED IT UP WITH OUR EQUIPMENT AND JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, THE MAIN THING HERE IS I MADE A POINT HERE A FEW COURTS AGO GO WHEN MS. SMITH WAS HERE REGARDING BROAD ACRES IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS IF YOU END UP OPENING THE GATE ON THE DOWNSTREAM SIDE ALL YOU ARE GOING TO DO IS PUT WATER ON SOMEONE ELSE'S FRONT PORCH. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHO IS GOING TO BE LIABLE FOR THAT? AS A COUNTED DILLEY COUNTY ENGINEER AS IT COMMISSIONERS COURT I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE COUNTY OR COMMISSIONERS UP AT THAT POINT. ALL WE ARE DOING IS MAINTAINING WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS MAINTAINING AND PUTTING IT BACK TO AN ORIGINAL STATE ON THE WAY THAT THE ENGINEER OR WHOEVER DESIGNED IT ORIGINALLY IS PUT TO THE ORIGINAL STATE. I KNOW THAT MR. FIRKIN HAS REQUESTED PART OF THE WORK IN NUECES COUNTY OR PEOPLE DOING DITCHES IN THE CITY OF ROB'S TOWN, WE CANNOT GO INTO SOMEBODY ELSE'S BACKYARD AND START CLEANING SOMEBODY ELSE'S DITCHES. I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT EITHER THE CITY OF ROBSTOWN NEEDS TO COORDINATE WITHIN THE DISTRICT THAT IT DOES NOT FALL WITHIN OUR

JURISDICTION. >> JUDGE: YOU ANSWER THAT

QUESTION. >> COMMISSIONER: EXPLAIN HOW IT'S GOING TO FLOOD SOMEONE ELSE CAN YOU ELABORATE?

>> GUEST SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER, TO SIMPLIFY, IT'S LIKE HAVING A STRAW AND YOU ARE GOING TO PUT A BIGGER PIPE TO DRAIN AND YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT BIGGER AND THE WATER IS GOING TO FLOW A LOT FASTER TO THOSE PEOPLE ON THE DOWNSTREAM SIDE. IN OTHER WORDS, ALL YOU ARE DOING IS MOVING SOMEONE'S PROBLEM HERE

TO SOMEONE ELSE DOWNSTREAM. >> COMMISSIONER: WHAT IS

DOWNSTREAM? >> GUEST SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER TO LET YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS IS THAT OUR DRAINAGE CROSSES UNDERNEATH OR GOES THROUGH THE CITY OF ROBSTOWN. I SAY HOURS BUT IT'S A COMBINATION OF EVERYBODY'S DRAINAGE. IT GOES THROUGH THE CITY OF ROBSTOWN AND THEN TEXAS DOT. THEY HAVE CULVERTS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO HOLD CAPACITY I'M ASSUMING IT'S A 25 OR 50 YEAR CAPACITY. THE CULVERTS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY DESIGNED IN THE SUBDIVISION WERE ONLY DESIGNED FOR A TWO YEAR CAPACITY OR MAY BE A 10 YEAR CAPACITY. IN OTHER WORDS ALL YOU ARE DOING IS MOVING WATER AND YOU ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN CAPACITY. YOU COULD PROBABLY DO WHAT YOU COULD DO WITHIN THAT SITE BUT ON THE DOWNSTREAM SITE YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE I'M GOING TO CALL IT A CHOKING POINT IS JUST WHAT WAS DESIGNED AT THAT POINT AND THIS IS PROBABLY 50 OR 60 YEARS AGO. WITH THAT SAID, THAT'S THE REASON WHY I AM RECOMMENDING WITH THE COMMISSIONERS AND I KNOW WE DISCUSSED THIS IN THE PAST FOUR YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE BUT ALL YOU CAN DO IS CREATE A RETENTION FACILITY TO STAGE THE WATER TO SLOW IT DOWN OR CAPTURE THE WATER IN THOSE RETENTION PONDS AND THEN SLOWLY

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IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO DIVERT WATER ONTO

SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY. >> JUDGE: JUST ONE SECOND, HE HAS HIS HAND RAISED. HERE'S A SITUATION I'M TRYING TO GET US STAYING ON TRACK BECAUSE WE DID SAY HURRY AND GET JUAN UP HERE BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT. MR. COMMISSIONER BRENT CHESNEY THOUGHT THAT THE WORK HAD BEEN STOPPED. THE WORK WAS NOT STOPPED. HE DID WORK AND IT WAS FUNDED THROUGH YOUR, I

IMAGINE YOUR BUDGET? >> GUEST SPEAKER: YES MA'AM.

THE WORK THAT WAS PERFORMED OUT THERE WAS TO CLEAN THE DITCHES AND IN ADDITION -ÁSPEAKER1Á PERFECT THE FUNDING SOURCE WAS

YOUR BUDGET? >> GUEST SPEAKER: IT COMES FROM THE.[INDISCERNABLE] WORKS BUDGET AND I KNOW THAT THEY ASSISTED WITH OTHER PROJECTS IN THE AREA ROC.

>> JUDGE: YOU HELPED ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS LATER. THE TRI-COUNTY DRAINAGE STUDY, THE PURPOSE OF IT IS TO CREATE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS SO, THAT WE CAN ACT UPON THEM AND HOPEFULLY GET THE FUNDING FOR THEM AND THAT'S IN THE PROCESS BUT THERE WERE, HE SAID TO ME, IN THE FALL WE CAME HERE AND SAID YOU WERE GOING TO DO WORK.

THAT IS THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE. DOES THAT HELP MR.

CHESTNUT? >> GUEST SPEAKER:

MICROPHONE] >> JUDGE: CAN YOU HELP WITH

THAT, JUAN? >> GUEST SPEAKER: YES MA'AM.

WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE CLEANED IT HIT THE MAIN COMPLAINT WAS THAT COUNTY ROAD 52 BETWEEN COUNTY ROAD 69 THE DITCHES WERE NOT CLEANED BUT THOSE WERE THE DITCHES THAT WERE WEANED BY ROTC WITH OUR ASSISTANCE AND WE WENT OUT THERE AND WE CLEAN THOSE UP. AND THEN WE WENT OUT THERE AND THIS IS WHERE WE HIRED THE HYDRO BACK MACHINE TO CLEAN OUT THE CULVERTS IN THE DOWNSTREAM SITE AND WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE WATER DISTRICT NUMBER 3 FROM MILES TOWN THEY'VE ALSO CLEANED OUT THE STRUCTURES THAT WERE CROSSING WITHIN THE IRRIGATION DITCH AND THAT HAVE BEEN THREE MONTHS AGO. THEN THEY NOTIFIED ME. IT WAS A COMBINATION OF HELP FROM THE WATER DISTRICT

AND SO, IT HAS BEEN DONE. >> JUDGE: OKAY. TODAY'S WORKSHOP, TO BRING US BACK HOME BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS ON WHERE TO ALLOCATE FUNDS. PART OF THE DISCUSSION FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS TO ALLOCATE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR DRAINAGE. AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS CLEANING AS MANY COUNTYWIDE DITCHES AND CULVERTS SO, THAT WE CAN GET BACK TO STATUS QUO. THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS CONTRACT. THAT IS WHAT THE PEOPLE IN THE SURVEY AND ALL

THE JURISDICTIONS AND WHATNOT. >> COMMISSIONER: ARE WE DOING

THAT? >> GUEST SPEAKER: WE ARE DOING

THAT COMMISSIONERS. >> JUDGE: THAT'S NOT WHAT THE

PEOPLE SAY. >> COMMISSIONER: WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, HOLD ON. HE JUST CAME UP AND GAVE US A VERY CLEAR EXPLANATION OF WHAT'S BEING DONE. THIS GENTLEMAN WITH ALL DUE RESPECT IS SHAKING HIS HEAD NO AT ONE TIME. IF YOU HAVE AN ENGINEER, THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A WORKSHOP ON WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE. HE IS DOING IT, JUDGE, AND IF YOU THINK HE'S NOT DOING IT JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE SAY HE'S NOT DOING IT YOU NEED TO SHOW ME. SHOW ME WHERE HE'S NOT DOING IT.

>> JUDGE: WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS ATTEND -

>> GUEST SPEAKER:

>> JUDGE: LET'S GET A CONTRACT.

>> COMMISSIONER: JUDGE THIS IS BECOMING A CIRCUS TODAY!

>> JUDGE: NO IT'S NOT, THIS IS LETTING PEOPLE HAVE THEIR SAY.

>> COMMISSIONER: BUT I DON'T HAVE MY SAY. I HAVE LET YOU TALK AND I CAN GET ANYTHING OUT WITHOUT AN INTERRUPTION.

>> JUDGE: YOU ARE FUNNY. >> COMMISSIONER: I WOULD LIKE TO FINISH. I'D BE HAPPY TO LET THEM TALK, BUT CAN I TALK? PLEASE? JUAN HAS CAME UP HERE AND GIVEN AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HE DOES AND HE CLEANS DITCHES REGULARLY. IF THERE IS A PROOF THAT IT'S NOT BEING DONE OR AN ENGINEER ANALYSIS THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THEN I NEED TO SEE, THE COURT NEEDS TO SEE AN ENGINEERING ANALYSIS AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THESE PEOPLE KEEP COMING AND DISAGREEING WITH OUR COUNTY

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>> JUDGE: COMMISSIONER. HOLD ON. OTHERS WANT TO SPEAK.

>> COMMISSIONER: I GET IT BUT I GET TO FINISH.

>> JUDGE: COMMISSIONER YOU NEED TO FINISH. HERNANDEZ WANTS TO

GO NEXT. >> COMMISSIONER: IF WE NEED MORE MONEY, JUAN YOU NEED TO COME FORWARD. IF YOU NEED MORE DITCH CLEANING MONEY TODAY IS THE DAY THAT YOU NEED TO COME FORWARD AND SAY I NEED THIS SET ASIDE IN ADDITION TO WHAT WERE DOING BECAUSE TO SUGGEST WE ARE NOT DOING IT ALREADY THAT'S RIDICULOUS BECAUSE WE ARE. MAYBE WE NEED TO CLEAN IT MORE REGULARLY TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR THESE PEOPLE AND THAT'S OKAY.

IF YOU NEED MORE MONEY TO DO THAT THEN YOU NEED TO SAY TO THIS COURT I NEED TO SET ASIDE, PLEASE COURT SET ASIDE $2 MILLION WHATEVER YOU THANK YOU NEED TO BETTER CLEAN THIS DRAINAGE IN ALL PARTS OF THE COUNTY. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR TODAY AND MAYBE IN THIS PROCESS WE CAN GET A MORE REGULAR PLAN THAT CAN CLEAN THESE DITCHES MORE REGULARLY BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT WE CAN'T GO TO ROBSTOWN AND CLEAN THEIR DITCHES ALL WE CAN DO IS CLEAN HOURS. I HOPE THEY ARE SHOWING UP IN ROBSTOWN AND COMPLAINING TO THEM AS THEY SHOULD ABOUT THE DRAINAGE DITCHES IN ROBSTOWN. I HOPE YOU'RE GOING THERE AND I'M SURE YOU ARE BECAUSE WE CAN'T CLEAN ROBSTOWN DITCHES. IF YOU NEED MORE MONEY YOU NEED TO TELL US THAT IN TODAY'S THE DAY AND THAT WHERE I'M TRYING TO END UP.

NOW GO AHEAD. >> JUDGE: COMMISSIONER, WAIT A

SECOND JUAN. >> COMMISSIONER: I AM ASKING HIM QUESTIONS. I AM ASKING JUAN A QUESTION. DO YOU BELIEVE WE NEED MORE MONEY FOR DRAINAGE IN PARTS OF THE COUNTY

TO BE CLEANED MORE REGULARLY? >> GUEST SPEAKER: MISSION OR, I KNOW WITH THESE MONIES FOR ADDITIONAL GRADE AWLS FOR CLEANING DITCHES, WE DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH EQUIPMENT. AND OF COURSE, STAFF IS ANOTHER ISSUE, RIGHT? SO, HOPEFULLY WITH THESE NEW PIECES OF EQUIPMENT LIKE WE PROMISED THE COURT IS THAT WE WILL START HAVING A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IN THE PRECINCT IF YOU HAVE MAINTENANCE ON THESE DISHES.

YES SIR, >> COMMISSIONER: IF YOU NEED MORE BECAUSE THESE DITCHES NEED TO BE CLEANED MORE REGULARLY BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING, I DO NOT, THERE'S ONLY SO, MUCH WE CAN DO. THERE'S ONLY SO, MUCH WE CAN DO IN THE COUNTY AND HOPEFULLY YOU CAN TALK TO THE PEOPLE IN ROB'S TOWN COULD YOU LOOK AT IT? I'M SURE THAT ROBSTOWN WANTS TO HELP TO, MAYBE THEY DON'T. I WOULD HOPE

THEY WOULD. >> GUEST SPEAKER: FOR US TO GO INTO SOMEONE ELSE'S AREA WE HAVE THE PERSONNEL AND EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO CLEAN OUR DITCHES IN OUR AREA, HOW CAN WE GO INTO SOMEONE ELSE'S BACKYARD AND START CLEANING WHEN WE ARE OVERSTAFFED WITH EQUIPMENT AND LIMITED AND WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP UP. AND THEN BY US GOING INTO SOMEONE ELSE'S BACKYARD AND START CLEANING THEIR DITCHES WE HAVE PEOPLE LIKE THIS WHO ARE GOING TO BE COMPLAINING THAT THEIR DITCHES AREN'T CLEAN. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE CARE OF OUR STRUCTURES BEFORE WE GO AND

CLEAN SOMEBODY ELSE'S. >> COMMISSIONER: I AM NOW

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>> COMMISSIONER: EXCUSE ME, JUAN. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN MR. SAMORA CALLED US AND ASKED TO COME TO OUR HOUSE I INTRODUCE YOU GUYS AS THE EXPERT, YOU AND JERRY ARE THE EXPERTS IN ENGINEERING. JERRY IS THE EXPERT ON THE ROAD. I AM ONLY THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE TOO MANY COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE ENGINEERS OR THINGS LIKE THAT WHO CAN REALLY GO OUT AND EXPLAIN TO YOU AND TELL YOU THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO BECAUSE I KNOW. I TAKE MY EXPERTS WITH ME SO, THEY CAN EXPLAIN TO Y'ALL I DON'T JUST GO MYSELF THEY WILL BE THE ONES THAT ARE DOING THE TALKING AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM AND HOW WILL WE FIX IT. THEY SUPPLY THE MONEY AND I CAN GET IT DONE AND THAT'S WHAT I CAN

DO. >> GUEST SPEAKER: AND, COMMISSIONER, THERE ARE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE HAD WHAT WE DID FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN THIS AREA THAT WOULD HAVE LOVE FOR US TO GO IN THERE AND START CLEANING DITCHES AND DOING MAINTENANCE, BUT LIKE I SAID WE'LL GET INTO THAT POINT, WE HAVE A PLAN AND

WERE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT. >> COMMISSIONER: I AGREE WE DID GET SOME CALLS AND JUDGE WHAT I'M ASKING YOU IS CAN YOU HELP ME GET MY $155,000 FROM HASS AND ASSOCIATES?

>> JUDGE: LET'S PUT THAT ON ANOTHER DAY BECAUSE I'VE A LOT TO DISCUSS ON THAT. RIGHT NOW FOR OUR PET THE POINT WAS TO, I WANT TO BRING IT BACK HOME. WASTEWATER AND WATER ARE ELIGIBLE PROJECTS FOR ARPA. I WANT TO ADDRESS THIS VERY BRIEFLY. COMMISSIONER BRENT CHESNEY YOU ASKED IF THIS IS ISOLATED? THIS IS NOT ISOLATED HERE YOU HAVE NOT ATTENDED ONE OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE DRAINAGE WORKSHOPS. WE HAVE HAD OVER FIVE OF THEM. EVERY ONE OF THEM ARE FILLED WITH RESIDENTS WHO WE HAVE HUGE MAPS AND WE COME IN AND PLACE DOTS USING COLOR-CODED DOTS WORKING WITH OUR ENGINEERS, I SMACK, ALL THE TEAM MEMBERS WERE THERE AND YOU DID NOT ATTEND ANY OF THOSE

MEETINGS. >> COMMISSIONER: DID ANY OF

THOSE HAVE TO DO WITH MY AREA? >> JUDGE: YES. WATER HAS NO

BOUNDARY. >> COMMISSIONER: YOU DON'T ATTEND A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN MY PRECINCT IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK AND FORTH AND LET GO BACK AND FORTH.

>> JUDGE: YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE ABOUT INTERRUPTIONS.

>> COMMISSIONER: YOU ARE ATTACKING ME. I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT. IF YOU WANT TO BRING INTO A CONVERSATION THEN BRING ME IN AND IF YOU DON'T AND DON'T BUT LEAVE ME OUT OF IT.

>> JUDGE: PLEASE LET ME FINISH.

>> COMMISSIONER: I WILL BUT DON'T BRING ME INTO IT. > JUDGE: WE KNOW HOW YOU LIKE TO HIT BACK.

>> COMMISSIONER: WE KNOW HOW YOU LIKE TO CRITICIZE PEOPLE.

IF YOU CRITICIZE ME JUDGE, I'M GOING TO RESPOND. I'VE TAKEN IT FOR THREE YEARS AND I AM DONE TAKING IT FROM YOU.

YOU'RE GOING TO CRITICIZE ME I'M COMING BACK AT YOU SO, FEEL FREE TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT I SAT HERE NICELY AND PATIENTLY FOR THREE YEARS BUT I HAVE HAD IT WITH YOUR TAX SO, GO AHEAD.

>> JUDGE: [CHUCKLE] OKAY AGAIN IN ALL THESE DRAINAGE WORKSHOPS, THERE ARE LOTS AND LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE MAPS. JUAN HAS BEEN THERE AND ALL OTHER PUBLIC WORKS COUNTYWIDE. IT IS CLEAR THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME ON YOUR SIDE. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO TACKLE ALL OF THE DRAINAGE ISSUES WE HAVE IN THE NEXT HURRICANE SEASON OR FLOOD. LAST JULY WAS EVIDENT OF THAT. WE GOT HIT TWICE IN MAY AND JULY. IF JUAN HAD ALL THE TIME AND EQUIPMENT IN THE WORLD AND THAT'S ALL HE WAS DOING, NO OTHER WORK, I MIGHT AGREE. BUT THAT'S NOT THE REALITY IN THE ENGINEERS THE ENGINEERS COULD SHOW YOU A DIFFERENT ANALYSIS AND WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS WE ARE HOLDING TRI-COUNTY DRAINAGE COUNTY WORKSHOPS WITH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND ALL THESE ENGINEERS AND ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS. IT AFFECTS ALL OF OUR PRECINCT. IT AFFECTS ALL OF OUR COUNTY.

>> COMMISSIONER: MYSELF HAS BEEN THERE, JUDGE.

>> JUDGE: RIGHT BUT YOU HAVEN'T AND THE REASON YOU ARE NOT

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>> COMMISSIONER: I PASSED A STUDY ADVOCATED FOR A STUDY I GET GO TO EVERYTHING THAT YOU SET MEETINGS FOR AND I CAN'T GO BECAUSE I'M IN ANOTHER PRECINCT RELATED TO WHAT I DO BUT TO ASSUME OR INSINUATE THAT I'M NOT INVOLVED WITH THIS BECAUSE I HAVEN'T GONE TO THE MEETINGS THAT YOU CALL WITHOUT CONSULTING THIS GIFT TO FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN GO OR NOT GO BUT MY STAFF HAS BEEN THERE AND REPRESENTED WHAT HAS GONE ON.

AND SOMETIMES YOU SAY I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH DRAINAGE IS YOUR ATTEMPT TO MUDDY THE WATERS ON WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY AND I'M NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TO LET THAT HAPPEN WITHOUT COMING BACK TO YOU AND SAYING YOU ARE WRONG AND DISAGREEING WITH YOU IF YOU ARE GOING TO BRING ME INTO A CONVERSATION YOU COULD'VE MADE YOUR POINT TO CRITICIZE ME AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT. WE ALL SAT HERE AND HAVE BEEN BEAT UP BY YOU FOR THREE YEARS I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE.

THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS MIGHT BUT I'M NOT. YOU ARE WRONG WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING I'M IN TUNE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I TALKED TO JUAN REGULARLY. I DON'T NEED TO GO TO ALL THE MEETINGS THAT YOU CALL TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH DRAINAGE.

THANK YOU. >> GUEST SPEAKER: EXCUSE ME

JUDGE- >> COMMISSIONER: CAN I HAVE THE GENTLEMAN SAY WHAT HE WANTS TO SAY, SIR? GO AHEAD, SIR.

>> GUEST SPEAKER: THANK YOU. AS FAR AS MR. CHESNEY, I HAVE BROUGHT PICTURES, COUNTLESS PICTURES OF WHAT IS GOING ON AND PRESENTED TO YOU AND EVERYBODY GIVEN A JOHN WITH ALL THE DIAGRAMS OF WHERE THE DITCHES ARE IN ALL THE PROBLEMS ARE. FOR JUAN TO SAY WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF IT, YOU JUST DIG OUT THERE RIGHT AT HOME THAT DOESN'T TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEM. THAT DOES NOT TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEM. IT BUILDS UP AND ALL YOU ARE DOING IS BUILDING A RETENTION POND BY BUILDING OUT EVERYTHING RIGHT THERE. YOU CAN'T SAY I HAVE TAKEN CARE OF YOU WHEN YOU DON'T LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE.

ALL THESE DITCHES THAT WE HAVE HAVE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS. AND I'VE BEEN AT MY RESIDENCE FOR 43 YEARS.

>> OUR DITCHES WERE BUILT, NOT TO BE A JOKING MATTER, SEEMS TO THINK WE NEED IT CHOKED UP SO IT DOES NOT FLOOD SOMEBODY DOWNSTREAM. HOW ARE WE GOING TO FLOOD SOMEBODY DOWNSTREAM WHEN THESE DITCHES HAVE BEEN THERE FOR SO MANY YEARS. HASN'T TAKEN ANY INITIATIVE TO CLEAN OUT WHAT THEY HAVE DOWN THERE THEY LET THE TREES GROW UP WE HAVE GONE TO THE MEETINGS OVER THERE, THE MAYOR TELLS US WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH RESIDENTS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT DIG FOR YOU. WE HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 43 YEARS. HE SAYS WELL I HAVE ASKED THE COUNTY FOR HELP AND THEY REFUSED TO HELPED ME I SAID WELL, COME TO THE MEETING HERE AND SAY THAT.

SAY THAT IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY HERE DO NOT JUST HEARSAY SAY IT IN FRONT OF ALL YOU COMMISSIONERS HERE.

HE IS TELLING US THAT HE HAS BEEN OVER HERE COUNTLESS TIMES ASKING FOR HELP TO CLEAN OUT THAT DITCH.

WE HAVE ÃANOTHER HOLE ON COUNTY ROAD 50 THAT IS NOT TREATED. IT IS IN THE COUNTY.

ALL IT TAKES IS TO REMOVE THE DIRT.

>> BUT WAIT. >> 10 CITIES IN THE COUNTY WE DON'T COOLING DITCHES, IN BISHOP SO ROB'S TOWN HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO CLEAN THEIR OWN DITCHES.O SAY HEY HOW

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>> IT IS UNINCORPORATED. >> WE STILL HAVE A DITCH OVER THERE ON COUNTY ROAD 50 THAT CLEANS OUT.

THOSE WE SHOULD CLEAN. >> EXACTLY.

>> EXACTLY. >> WE ASKED FOR THAT IN THIS

COURTROOM I BROUGHT IT UP. >> ON 52.

>> 52 COMES DOWN 69. 69 HAS A CODE BY THE WAY OF ROB'S TOWN OR ON THE DITCH ON 50.

>> WOULD YOU MIND YIELDING. I WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THE WORKSHOP THE POINT OF LISTENING IS TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT SUE PATIENT DOLLARS SHOULD BE APPROPRIATED FOR CONTINUING CLEANING UP DITCHES. THAT WOULD BE AN OPERATIONS CONTRACT THAT WOULD BE ISSUED THROUGH THE RFP REALLY WHERE WE WERE GOING HERE. THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF TODAY IS TO GIVE YOU HELP SO YOU COULD HAVE MORE RESOURCES TO DO MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN TO SOME OF THESE WORKSHOPS THERE ARE DOTS EVERYWHERE. WE ASKED THE CITIZENS TO PUT DOCS ON MAPS OUR WHOLE WATERSHED IS SUFFERING.

THIS ISN'T ABOUT WE HAVE THAT WITH EVERY ONE OF THESE JURISDICTIONS ABOUT GETTING THE JOB DONE.

WHAT I AM ASKING YOU IS TO HELP ALLOCATE GOOD DOLLARS BECAUSE THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION.

IF YOU DO NOT WANT THEM SPEAKING NOW.

WANT TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE DOLLARS.

ARE YOU SAYING TO THIS COURT THAT YOU DO NOT WANT THIS COURT TO ALLOCATE DOLLARS FOR DRAINAGE, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION COUNTYWIDE. DO YOU MIND WOULD YOU YIELD? HE NEEDS TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

GONZALEZ WANTS TO BASICALLY TALK ABOUT THAT I WANT TO MOVE ON TO OTHER SUBJECT MATTERS THIS WAS DRAINAGE.

THAT IS WHAT WE WERE HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH FOR YOU TODAY.

>> YOU KNOW ALWAYS AWARE THIS OPERATION, WANT TO GET ALLOCATED. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ARE WE REACTING WE DO NOT HAVE A FINAL STUDY OF WHAT THE WATERSHED IS DOING. ARE WE REACTING, SHOULDN'T WE HAVE A STUDY BEFORE WE SPEND MONEY.

THAT IS MY QUESTION. >> IF YOU ARE GOING TO ASK ME THAT I AM GOING TO ASK YOU THE QUESTION HAVE YOU NOT SEEN ALL OF THE MAPS WITH ALL OF THE DOTS, WE ASSUMED STATUS QUO.

>> THE ONLY REASON I SAY THAT I KNOW WITH THE STUDY THAT THE COMMISSIONER DID, AT LEAST WE HAVE A PLAN.

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, ALSO HAS A PLAN OF WHAT WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING. SO ALREADY A PLAN READY TO MITIGATE SOME OF THESE ISSUES WITHIN THESE AREAS.

I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE GONE TO THAT PLAN BEFORE.

>> SO I WAS TRYING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION DO NOT WANT DOLLARS ALLOCATED YOU ASKED ME A QUESTION WITH A QUESTION.

>> HE NEEDS TO SAY IT. >> HE NEEDS TO SAY IT.

>> IF YOU DO THESE PROJECTS WE WANT DOLLARS.

>> THANK YOU. >> NOT TO TAKE MONEY FROM THE PRESENT TO DO OTHER THINGS THAT DO NOT CONCERN DRAINAGE.

>> YES, SIR. >> WHAT A NIGHTMARE.

>> THE GENTLEMAN THEY ARE HERE WE WISH WE COULD STAY IN YOUR

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ONLY HAVE A SMALL CREW TO WORK. WE MIGHT NOT SEE THEM AGAIN FOR ANOTHER THREE OR FOUR MONTHS. WORKING THE WHOLE YEAR ROUND.

TODAY HOPEFULLY TALK ABOUT DRAINAGE, MY PLAN JUDGE, FROM HERE I THINK WE KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE LEFT TO WORK ON THAT. PUBLIC WORKS, YOU KNOW FOR DRAINAGE. SEE WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO.

PROBABLY NOT ENOUGH I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND ONE THING WHEN WE HAVE THOSE MEETINGS THAT THE JUDGE PUTS OUT.

>> IT DOES NOT MEET. >> DISTRICT DRAINAGE MEETING THEY ARE GOOD MEETINGS. THEREFORE A STUDY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR A STUDY. WHICH IS NEEDED.

NONE OF THAT MONEY IS GOING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.

MORE INSIDE ANYBODY'S PROPERTY. PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT, THEY GOT 50 MILLION WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WITH IT.

HOW COME WE DO NOT DO ANYTHING MONDAY IS NOT TO WORK IN THE PROPERTY, NOT TO WORK IN MY AREA THAT MONEY JUST FOR A STUDY. WHEN THE STUDY IS FINISHED IT IS GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER THREE OR FOUR YEARS TO WORK IN THE AREA THAT IS THE WAY IT IS. I AM TELLING YOU BECAUSE YOU NEED TO KNOW SOME PEOPLE GET CONFUSED.

WE ARE TRYING TO GET MONEY TODAY MONEY TODAY TO WORK IN YOUR AREAS AND OTHER PEOPLE'S AREAS.

THAT IS OUR CONCERN TODAY. TODAY I AM GOING TO ASK THAT WE ALL GET THAT WE ALL GET $4 MILLION.

THIS IS, WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT THE STUDY FOR THE DISTRICT, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET A PENNY. I AM SORRY BUT THAT IS THE WAY IT IS. HERE TODAY GOING TO ASK FOR SOME MONIES SO WE CAN WORK IN YOUR AREA.

I AM ASKING FOR 2 MILLION FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

SO WE CAN WORK ON DRAINAGE. WE HAVE A PLAN I HAVE THREE AREAS IN MY COUNTY THAT NEED DRAINAGE.

I HAVE THE PLANS HERE. ENGINEER HAS DRAWN THOSE PLANS

WITH THE HELP OF OUR ENGINEER. >> SAME.

>> I AM SURE THE COMMISSIONER MIGHT HAVE HIS PLAN FOR HIS AREA. OUR HANDS ARE TIED BECAUSE ALL OF THE MONEY, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT MONEY.

$4 MILLION IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY.

IF YOU PUT 4 MILLION, TALKING ABOUT $20 MILLION.

2 MILLION, I HAVE 5 MILLION. THE AUTHORITY 150,000.

THEY NEED TO GET IT BACK. WHAT I AM REQUESTING TODAY REALLY COMES $38 MILLION. A BALANCE OF 70 MILLION TO WORK WITH ANYBODY ELSE THAT WE CAN WORK WITH WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR COUNTY. THOSE FUNDS WORK FOR US TO WORK AND TAKE CARE OF THIS COUNTY. I KNOW YOU ARE NOT HAPPY MOST OF THE TIME I HAVE PEOPLE LIKE YOU, IN MY AREA.

THEY COMPLAIN THEY CALL, I SAY GO CHECK THIS OUT.

YOU KNOW AT LEAST THEY WILL CALL.

WITH THAT MONEY WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING.

IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY. OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW TO WORK WITH THIS TO HOPEFULLY TO SOME OF THOSE THINGS NOW.

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PEOPLE WANT 3 MILLION, 4 MILLION.

I MEAN AGAIN WHAT I AM REQUESTING FOR, MAYBE 38

MILLION. >> DO YOU HAVE IT IN WRITING?

COPIES PLEASE.> SURE. >> AT LEAST WE HAVE SOMETHING

TO START DISCUSSING. >> JUST GIVE US A COPY OR REWRITE IT. GET THAT DONE.

>> I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU FEEL. EVERY DAY.

I GOT A CALL YESTERDAY. NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

I AM GOING BACK AGAIN. YOU KNOW WE TRIED TO SERVE THE PEOPLE AS MUCH AS WEAKEN THE BEST WE CAN EVERYTHING ABOUT MONEY. THEN AGAIN PROBABLY NEED ANOTHER STAFF TO WORK. THEY CANNOT BE EVERYWHERE AT ONE TIME. I DO NOT KNOW HOW ELSE TO TELL

YOU THIS. >> DO NOT LEAVE.

>> I THINK TODAY WHAT WE ARE ASKING HOPEFULLY MAKE A DENT IN TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF OUR COUNTY DO NOT GET THAT CONFUSED WITH THE COUNTYWIDE DRAINAGE DISTRICT PLAN.

TOTALLY DIFFERENT I AM GOING TO GET MONEY FROM THAT.

>> SAT OUTSIDE. >> THAT IS BESIDES THE POINT.

CANNOT BE THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY.

>> THAT IS FINE. I AM TALKING YOU KNOW.

I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO TODAY HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK IT OUT.

>> NOT HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK YET HE DID SIGN UP.

THEN WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO SOME OTHER ONES THAT I HOPE, HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSENSUS SO.

>> HE OUT. I CAME HERE PREPARED WITH SOME NOTES BUT I AM GOING TO CHANGE MY DIRECTION.

MY HUGE CONCERN IS THAT MY WIFE AND I MY FAMILY MY NEIGHBORS WE HAVE TO LIVE IN FEAR I STARTED TO SAY A CONCERN OR APPREHENSIVE FEELING BUT I AM GOING TO CHANGE IT.

I AM ASKING YOU A QUESTION IS IT FAIR WE HAVE TO LIVE IN FEAR OF 1/3 FLOODING. AS A REMINDER MAY 19 OF LAST YEAR MY HOUSE SUSTAINED THREE INCHES OF WATER INSIDE MY LIVING QUARTERS. SIX WEEKS LATER JULY 8 WE HAD FIVE INCHES OF WATER. IN MY HOME.

NOT TO MENTION THE NEIGHBORS DOWNSTREAM FROM THE FRONT OF MY HOUSE. IT TOOK US SIX MONTHS TO PUT OUR HOUSE BACK TOGETHER. NOW NEXT WEDNESDAY IS HURRICANE SEASON. AGAIN I DID NOT USED TO LIVE IN FEAR I HAVE BEEN IN MY RESIDENCE 30 YEARS.

NEVER EXPERIENCED A FEELING OF FEAR.

WITH SEEN HEAVY RAINS SINCE I HAVE LIVED THERE, I HAVE SEEN THE WATER FLOAT DOWNSTREAM I AM NO ENGINEER.

I AM A SIMPLE MAN. I CAN TELL WHEN WATER IS FLOWING DOWNSTREAM IT DOESN'T TAKE A GENIUS TO SEE THE LEAVES AND TWIGS FLOWING DOWNSTREAM. IN FRONT OF THE DITCHES IN FRONT OF OUR HOMES. THE WATER WOULD COME UP THEN IT WOULD RECEDE BECAUSE IT WOULD FLOAT DOWNSTREAM LAST JULY LAST YEAR JULY 8 IT DID NOT DO THAT. IT DID NOT DO THAT AT ALL.

IT CREATED A LAGOON IN OUR AREA.

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THERE IS A PROBLEM DOWNSTREAM THERE IS A HUGE PROBLEM, THE WATER IS NOT GETTING OUT YESTERDAY I DROVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AT THE LAKES WE COULD SEE THAT RETENTION POND THE WATER WAS FLOWING OUT FROM UNDERNEATH.

IT WAS THREE INCHES OF RAIN IN TWO DAYS THE GROUND ALREADY PARCHED. IT WAS STILL COMING OUT IMAGINE WHEN IT IS A SIX INCH RAINFALL DOWNPOUR SO MY POINT IS THERE IS A BIG PROBLEM DOWNSTREAM. WE DO NOT WANT TO SAY THAT THEY CANNOT DO ANYTHING BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO COST SOMEBODY ELSE'S NEIGHBORHOODS TO FLOOD. WHAT ABOUT MY QUESTION IS, WHAT ABOUT WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENED NORTH OF US.

THE PLATFORM THE SIDE THAT WAS BUILT THAT FLOODED.

WHAT ABOUT ACROSS THE STREET WHEN THEY BUILT THAT SUBDIVISION THAT USED TO BE FARMLAND.

NOBODY ASKED US. NOBODY CARED ABOUT US WHEN THAT WATER CAME INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND FLOODED US.

SO TO END THIS COMMISSIONER, AS YOU TOLD ME LAST TIME YOU SAID YOU NEED TO BE PATIENT YOU NEED TO GIVE US TIME THAT WAS YOU NEED TO GIVE US TIME THAT WAS MARCH 16 WHEN WE MET HER LAST TIME. HOW MUCH MORE TIME DO YOU NEED.

JUST WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF GIVE YOU MORE TIME.

>> TO GIVE MY ENGINEERS THE TIME THEY NEED TO FIX THAT.

WHAT THEY THOUGHT THEY NEEDED. GO BY HIS ADVICE, I GET IT FOR HIM THEY DO THE WORK AND MY DEFINITION IS, IF IT IS COMPLETED THAN I AM GOOD WITH IT.

I CAN ALSO SEE THE LEAVES GO BY.

THE WATER IS FLOWING. WHEN I ASK YOU FOR PATIENCE, I MEAN YOU LIVED THERE 30 SOME ODD YEARS.

>> 30 YEARS. >> A LOT OF PATIENTS WITH THE

PREVIOUS COMMISSIONERS. >> THE WATER WOULD FLOW.

>> THE OTHER THING I WANT TO INDICATE.

THREE NEIGHBORS THAT COME HERE I DO NOT SEE OTHER AREAS NO HUGE CONCERN FROM OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE WANT SOMETHING DONE THAT IS ALL WE ARE ASKING DO WE NEED TO

CONTINUE LIVING IN FEAR. >> I DO NOT THINK YOU SHOULD SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE FEARED THAT THEIR INSURANCE WAS GOING TO CANCEL THEM. THREE OTHER CLAIMS. BUT ALSO CONSIDER THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND YOU WASN'T BUILT YOU KNOW BACK THEN. A LOT OF OBSTRUCTION OF THEIR WITH ALL OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO YEAH ALL I SAID IS GIVE ME PATIENCE I THINK I GOT THE WORK DONE. CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

>> CAN I SAY SOMETHING? THE LAST YEAR, 13 INCHES OF RAIN. SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS, NORMAL, IN THIS CASE MAYBE 15 INCH RAIN EVENT.

ARE THE STRUCTURES THROUGHOUT THE AREA, DESIGNED FOR 100 YEAR

EVENT? >> IN OTHER WORDS YOU ARE GOING TO FLOOD. SOME OF THESE HOUSES ELEVATIONS BELOW, THESE HOUSES SHOULD HAVE BEEN HIGHER THAN THE ROAD.

ANOTHER REASON. BECAUSE THE HOMES WERE BUILT BELOW THE ELEVATION OF THE ROAD.

SO THE MAIN THING LAST YEAR WE DID HAVE PROBABLY 200 YEAR

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STORM RAIN EVENT WHICH IS UNCOMMON.>> YOU COULD TALK DRAINAGE AS YOU KNOW ALL WEEK. PLEASE STAY RIGHT THERE.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET ON THE RECORD BECAUSE THIS IS A WORKSHOP IN AT ALL OF OUR WORKSHOPS AT ALL OF THE OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE HAD TO TALK WITH ALL OF THE RESIDENTS IT IS VERY CLEAR THE STUDY IS THE WAY THE STATE OF TEXAS WANTS TO FUND THESE PROJECTS. DOING ALL WE CAN IN THE RIGHT WAY HOWEVER AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE ADDRESSED THE NEED EVERY TIME YOU MODEL YOU ARE ASSUMING STATUS QUO ASSUMING THERE IS NO VEGETATION. WHAT I WANTED TO DO IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY SURVEY YOU LOOK AT THE JURISDICTIONAL SURVEY. ALL OF THE COMMUNITY INFORMATION. WHAT I WANTED TO SUGGEST WAS THAT WE PUT $7 MILLION ALLOTTED, LIKE PRIORITIZATION.

I WANTED TO PUT $7 MILLION FOR DRAINAGE BECAUSE THESE EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS ARE NO LONGER 100 YEARS.

THEY ARE EVERY OTHER YEAR AS THE WEATHER SERVICE HAS CALLED THESE PREDICTIONS. THEY ARE HAPPENING TOO FREQUENT. AT EVERY ONE OF THESE EVENTS WE DISCUSSED YOU WITH THE OTHER ENGINEERS, DO NOT WORRY ABOUT JURISDICTIONS. ALL OF THAT CAN BE SOLVED IF WE HAD A REAL, IF YOU ARE GOING TO CREATE CHANGE IN A REAL AMOUNT OF TIME THAT CAN BEAT THE NEXT TWO YEARS WORTH OF STORMS YOU WOULD HAVE TO TACKLE IT WITH A MAJOR CONTRACT.

MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TO ASSIST YOU IN DOING EVERYTHING.

MAYBE THEM WHO CAN AFFORD TO COME OVER HERE BUT FROM ALL OF OUR WORKSHOPS WE KNOW THE HURT IS COUNTYWIDE.

SO WHAT I AM ASKING YOU WHAT I AM PROPOSING TO YOU TO THIS COURT IS THAT WE PRIORITIZE $7 MILLION OF THE REMAINING 50 MILLION. 48 MILLION.

TOWARDS DRAINAGE THAT WILL GET US SOME RELIEF A BIG FAT BAND-AID BUT YOU CANNOT DESIGN UNTIL THE STUDIES ARE DONE.

EVEN THE MODELING THAT YOU ALL DID WITH HALF, THE STUDY REFERENCED INDICATES THAT IT ASSUMES EVERYTHING IS OPEN AND CLEAR. THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO PROPOSE THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AT ALL OF THESE WORKSHOPS. WITHOUT A STRONG ROBUST CAMPAIGN COUNTYWIDE WE CANNOT AFFECT REAL CHANGE.

YOU ARE NOT PREVENTING THE EVENT YOU ARE PREVENTING THE NORMAL TROPICAL RAIN CAUSING HAVOC EVERY SINGLE TIME FOR BUSINESS. THAT IS WHAT I WAS PROPOSING THAT IS WHAT I AM PROPOSING ALLOTMENT OF $7 MILLION.Y THE WAY IN ADDITION TO THE 2 MILLION YOU HAVE GOTTEN FOR THE EQUIPMENT. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE TALKED ABOUT MAINTENANCE NEEDING A HUGE BOOSTER SHOT IN THE ARM THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO SAY TODAY.

WENT EVERY JURISDICTION EXPRESSES.

IT IS JUST ABOUT OUR AREA THAT DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE THE CREEKS FLOODED THE BAYS AND THEY AFFECT ALL OF US.

PRECINCT 4, ALL OF THEM INTO RELATED TO OUR CREEKS AND BASE SYSTEM WE HAVE TO GET THAT OPENED UP.

IT IS DEFINITELY THE ONLY WAY WE KNOW QUICKLY TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THESE PAINS AND THE FEAR THAT IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING HERE. THAT IS WHERE I THINK IF YOU JUST DO ONE PROJECT FOR ONE NEIGHBORHOOD, $10 MILLION.

THAT IS WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE STATE TO GET FUNDING.

IF WE DID THIS BY THE WAY THE 7 MILLION THAT A NUMBER I CAME UP WITH. SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 7-10 MILLION

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APARTHEID? >> AS THE COUNTY ENGINEER, BUNNIES BE SET ASIDE TO CREATE SOME RETENTION FACILITIES.

THE ONLY REASON YOU CAN CLEAN ALL OF THE DITCHES THAT YOU WANT, THEY ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CAPACITY.

AGAIN BRING THIS UP AGAIN, TWO YEAR DESIGN, 10 YEAR DESIGN.

THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE STRUCTURE. IF YOU DO NOT DETAIN SOME OF THE WATER WITHIN A FACILITY PRETTY MUCH NOT GOING TO DO

ANYTHING. >> THAT IS NOT GOING TO GET US

VERY FAR IN DETENTION POND. >> YOU CAN CLEAN THE DITCHES.

NOT JUST THE RAINWATER. THE WATER COMING FROM THE FIELDS. WE GET ALL OF THAT WATER TWO DAYS LATER AND WE FLOOD. ALL OF THAT WATER COMING THROUGH THE FIELDS. NOT JUST THE RAINWATER.

WHERE DO THEY GO? THEY HAVE TO DRAIN SOMEWHERE.

>> SOME OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. IF YOU DO NOT MITIGATE THAT THEN YOU ARE PRETTY MUCH GOING TO BE IN THE SAME SITUATION.

>> TO YOUR CREDIT, WHEN YOU CAME UP WITH MAKING THESE DEVELOPMENTS. TWO 100 YEAR STORM MY KNEES BUCKLED AT FIRST. THEN IT HAS HELPED IN THOSE NEW AREAS. I THOUGHT WE WOULD GET A TON OF PUSHBACK. UNFORTUNATE.

THE GOOD NEWS IS, WE ARE DOING A TON OF IT IN OUR COUNTY ESPECIALLY IN MY PRECINCT. I APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT IS GOING TO SAVE A LOT OF HEARTACHE.>> FOUR PONDS IN MY

AREA. >> COMMISSIONERS SO WE DO NOT HAVE TO DECIDE TODAY, CAN WE JUST AGREE THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME CONSENSUS THAT A LARGE AMOUNT OF SOMEWHERE BETWEEN YOU KNOW SEVEN-$10 MILLION BE ALLOTTED FOR DRAINAGE THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S WORKSHOP FIGURE OUT HOW YOU ARE GOING TO PRIORITIZE. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SEVEN.

THE NUMBER WAS 10, YOU KIND OF ALREADY HAVE TWO.

>> SO WE CAN MAKE SOME MOTIONS. >> WE ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE.

>> WE CAN DISCUSS IT IN AGENDA ITEMS TOO.

>> STILL IN WORKSHOP. >> WE JUST HAVE TALKED DRAINAGE. WE HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER SUBJECTS.

>> IT IS 10:30. WE SPENT ONE HOUR.

>> WE CAN GO TO TO ANOTHER SUBJECT MATTER.

>> WORKSHOP HAS A LOT MORE LATITUDE AS FAR AS LETTING THE

PEOPLE COME IN. >> I DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHY WE DID THIS AS A WORKSHOP LET PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT BUT WE CAN

MAKE MOTIONS. >> I APPRECIATE IT.

LET ME GO INTO SOME OTHER ITEMS. THEY DO NOT WANT TO TALK ABOUT DRAINAGE ANYMORE.

THE ONE ITEM THAT I WANT RACHEL TO TALK ABOUT OR SOME OF THE OTHER CRITICAL, I KNOW SHE IS MAKING COPIES.

SOME ITEMS THAT I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER TO BE INCLUDED IN ARPA, THE OUT OF COUNTY HOUSING THAT WE ARE SPENDING ON

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YOU CAN COLLECT 450,000. >> $48,000 A MONTH.

>> 200,000. >> OKAY.

>> IT IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. >> WE ARE HOUSING 23 INMATES IN VICTORIA. VICTORIA.

114,002 DATE. >> DID NOT UNDERSTAND OUT OF

COUNTY HOUSING. >> I PROPOSE THAT WE APPROPRIATE THOSE DOLLARS. THESE ARE IDEAS WE CAN ACT UPON. I ASKED IF THOSE WOULD BE

ELIGIBLE. >> 400,000.

>> I AM NOT DONE THE MATH THIS IS CURRENT AMOUNT.

287, 114 TODAY. OTHERWISE THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IS ONE IDEA. I AM GOING TO KEEP GOING.

KEEP TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT ONES.

>> I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. CAN COVER THESE COSTS.

>> 287, 114. >> 401,000.

>> TO THIS DAY. >> THAT WILL HELP US IMMENSELY.

JUST MAKE THE NOTE. >> EXCUSE ME JUDGE I AM SORRY

HOW MUCH WAS IT? >> THAT IS JUST TO DATE.

>> WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO COMMISSIONER PROBABLY EASY WAY TO PREDICT WHAT WE WILL SPEND THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30.

I WILL MOVE ON FOR NOW. GOING TO ASK YOU IN A MINUTE WHAT BUCKET THAT IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO.

WOULD IT HAVE A DIFFERENT SECTOR.

>> BASED ON OUR REVIEW, POSSIBLE THIS CAN BE FUNDED UNDER A PUBLIC HEALTH EXPENDITURE CATEGORY SPECIFICALLY 1.4 PREVENTION IN SETTINGS.

IT MAY NOT PENDING FURTHER ANALYSIS BE A LOST REVENUE

PROJECT. >> WHAT I SAW HERE ON MY ALLOCATION SUMMARY, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

THIS TOTAL REMAINING IS WHAT WE ARE STARTING WITH TODAY.

>> IT IS ON YOUR SUMMARY SHEET. >> THE NUMBER WE ARE STARTING

WITH TODAY. >> 48 MILLION REMAINING IN THE CATEGORIES THAT ARE NOT LOST REVENUE.

OVER 6 MILLION AVAILABLE IN LOST REVENUE.

>> 48 MILLION. SO THAT IS ONE I THINK WE

SHOULD CONSIDER. >> MAKE MOTION.

>> SINCE WE ARE STILL IN WORKSHOP THERE ARE OTHER CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART YOU FOR EXAMPLE MADE SUGGESTIONS THAT INLAND PARKS GET $6 MILLION. UNLESS YOU TIE THAT TO PROJECT THERE IS NO ELIGIBILITY FOR THAT.

>> 25 MILLION. I THINK 6 MILLION WILL HELP

THEM A LOT. >> UNLESS THERE IS A BREAKDOWN OF THOSE PROJECTS PARKS DO NOT FIT INTO THESE BUCKETS UNLESS IT IS GOVERNMENT SERVICES OR UNLESS YOU CAN TELL ME A PIECE OF THIS IS FOR BROADBAND, WASTEWATER MENTAL HEALTH ETC. I AM SAYING TO YOU YOUR WISH IS NOT ELIGIBLE.

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>> EXCUSE ME. THE ARGUMENT I CAN MAKE I GUESS WOULD BE THE MENTAL HEALTH ASPECT OF THIS.

A LOT OF THIS DEALING WITH OUR FACILITIES.

WITH THE WALKWAYS, WALKED TRAILS.

OUR LINES. >> YOU HAVE TO BREAK IT DOWN IS

WHAT I AM SAYING TO YOU. >> A NUMBER HERE, I AM SURE WE

CAN WORK ON THAT NUMBER. >> IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

>> NOT IN THE REGULAR AGENDA YET WE HAVE TO GET ¦

>> MOVE ON TO THE AGENDA ITEMS. >> A BUS THAT PULLED IN, HANDICAPPED CHILDREN. THEY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE FACILITY. WALK AROUND THE AREA.

IT SHOULD QUALIFY YOU KNOW FOR THAT REASON.

HILLTOP IS NOT THE ONLY ONE. >> THE END OF THE YEAR.

ALL OF THESE LOCATIONS. MOST OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE HAS

BEEN AROUND SINCE THE 40S. >> THE PARK WE'RE BUILDING A DOG PARK IN THAT IS HANDICAP I GUESS.

WORKING ON FOR APPROVAL. THEY NEED TO BE REDONE.

50 YEARS OLD I BELIEVE. I THINK IT SHOULD QUALIFY.

>> CAN WE GET THE EXPERT TO EXPLAIN.

I WISH IT WAS THAT EASY. FOR THE COMPLETE UPGRADE OF WHAT IS NECESSARY. THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS.

WOULD YOU OFFER SOME GUIDANCE HERE SO THAT WHEN THEY GO INTO AGENDA ITEMS I WOULD BE ABLE TO, WE CAN MAKE SOME THAT WOULD NOT GET US INTO DIFFICULTY WITH THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT CAN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW YOU CAN MAKE THAT POSSIBLE.

TOM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL ON YOU.

>> I HAVE NOT RECOGNIZE YOU. >> I DO HAVE TO RECOGNIZE YOU AS A PRESIDING OFFICER. I HAVE TO RECOGNIZE SOMEBODY ASKING FOR TOM TO SPEAK THIS IS A WORKSHOP.

YOU ARE ABOUT TO GET INTO AGENDA ITEMS. THEY DO NOT QUALIFY THEREFORE COULD HURT OUR ABILITY TO HAVE THESE FUNDS CLAWBACK. IT IS CRITICAL WE GET INFORMATION. I HAVE THE FLOOR MA'AM.

I HAVE THE FLOOR. >> IF THE MAJORITY OF THE COURT OVERRULES THAT THE MAJORITY OVERRULES.

ONLY HER FIRST AND SECOND. >> I WOULD HAVE TO CALL THE

VOTE. >> MOTION TO OVERRULE.

>> I AM DONE. >> GO AHEAD.

>> I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF A CONVERSATION.

>> I MADE MOTION WHEN YOU WERE PAUSED.

>> YOU WERE SPEAKING OVER ME. >> IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO

RECOGNIZE, MAKE MOTION. >> IF YOU ARE THROWING A

TANTRUM IT IS OKAY. >> TO MOVE INTO AN AGENDA ITEM.

>> GIVE ME THE TIME TO FINISH WITH TOM.> NO I MADE A

MOTION. >> IT HAS BEEN SECONDED.

>> WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN THE BASIC INFORMATION ON

ELIGIBILITY. >> WE WANT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AND GET SOMETHING DONE OTHER THAN JUST TALK.

I'LL OFFER THEM TO HAVE TO BE QUALIFYING PROJECTS.

>> I AM HAPPY TO GET US THERE BUT YOU ARE INTERRUPTING ME.

>> I HAVE MADE MOTION AND IT HAS BEEN SECONDED.

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>> YOU ARE SO DISRESPECTFUL OF THE PROCESS.

I WOULD LIKE BASIC INFORMATION ON WORKSHOP.

YOU ARE ABUSIVE. YOU ARE AN ABUSIVE MAN.

>> CALL ME NAMES. >> IT IS FACTS.

COULD YOU PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTION IS THERE?

>> COULD YOU UNMUTE. BEFORE WE GO INTO AGENDA.

CAN YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION? AND I WILL GO INTO AGENDA.

I NEED YOUR QUESTION ANSWERED. >> THE QUESTION IS ONE OF THE PROCESS. A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

THAT HELPS TO BREAK THESE PROPOSALS DOWN INTO PIECES.

OFTEN TIMES IN A LARGER PROJECT, MAY NOT BE ELIGIBLE UNDER ONE CATEGORY. CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT MAY BE ELIGIBLE. RESEARCH THAT GOES INTO THAT IN ADDITION PRIMARILY TODAY, IN THE FINAL RULE THE TREASURY INSTITUTED A REQUIREMENT FOR WRITTEN JUSTIFICATION FOR CAPITAL EXPENDITURES. VERY SAD PROCESS.

I HAVE ASKED MY TEAM TO PUT TOGETHER A BRIEF PRESENTATION ONLY ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE SLIDES THAT OUTLINES THE PROCESS THAT WE DEVELOP WITH THE COUNTY STAFF THAT SHOWS HOW A PROJECT IDEA CAN BE TURNED INTO A COMPLIANT AND ELIGIBLE PROJECT.

I WANTED TO OFFER TO HAVE RACHEL GO THROUGH THAT WITH THE COURT AS BACKGROUND TO GUIDE TO FURTHER DISCUSSIONS.

THEN I WANT TO RENEW OUR OFFER THAT WE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF PROJECT SUBMISSIONS, PRIOR TO THIS WORKSHOP.

BASED ON THE TIME REMAINING NOT GOING TO GET THROUGH ALL OF THOSE GOING TO BE DISCUSSION THAT GOES ON. WANT TO RENEW OUR OFFER TO MEET INDIVIDUALLY IN A SMALL GROUP WITH STAFF WITH COMMISSIONERS TO DISCUSS ANY IDEAS OUT THERE AND TRY TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE ELIGIBLE PROJECTS OUT OF IDEAS.

THAT IS WHAT WE ARE HERE TO DO FOR YOU.

TO MAKE THEM WORK UNDER THE FRAMEWORK THE TREASURY HAS PROVIDED. THESE ARE GREAT PROJECTS.

THEY PROVIDE AN OUTLET FOR SCHOOLS THEY NEED WASTEWATER TREATMENT. THEY IMPROVE MENTAL HEALTH OF THE COMMUNITY THE FINAL RULE SAYS THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT ELIGIBLE. A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ELIGIBILITY'S THAT MAY EXIST. A NUMBER OF QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACTS, A NUMBER OF WAYS TO QUALIFY PROJECTS AS ELIGIBLE.

A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK ON THE FRONT END TO GET FROM IDEA TO ELIGIBLE PROJECT. IN A POSITION TO HELP GUIDE IDEAS TO ALTERABLE PROJECTS. IF THE COURT DESIRES HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THOSE SLIDES THAT RACHEL HAS PUT TOGETHER TO INFORM THE COURT ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT CAN WORK.

>> WHY DON'T YOU BRING THOSE UP AND EMAILED THEM.

>> GET THEM TO EVERYBODY. ALSO THE IDEA TO FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT ELIGIBILITY.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS PROMISING BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT THE PROJECT IS IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK TO GET IT ELIGIBLE.MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE HOW ONE FOR EXAMPLE INDOLENT PARKS UPGRADES COULD FIND ELIGIBILITY. IT MIGHT LEAVE X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE THAT HAVE TO BE PUT INTO LOST REVENUE. IMPORTANT TO GO THROUGH THE ROOM SO TO SPEAK AND FIGURE OUT HOW EACH OF THE ASPECTS ARE MADE. THE FINAL RULES HAVE VERY STRONG LANGUAGE ABOUT WHAT IS ELIGIBLE FOR THE IDEA I WOULD

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HOW CAN YOU GUIDE THIS COURT. EVEN THOUGH THEY WANT TO DO GOOD WITH IT IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

HOW COULD YOU GUIDE THEM. THEY WOULD HAVE TO SHOW YOU THE

PROJECT IS THAT CORRECT?>> SUPPLEMENTAL GUIDANCE DOCUMENTS THAT MEASURE HUNDREDS OF PAGES. THE STAFF ASSIGNED HAVE THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF HOURS WORKING ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY ON TAKING IDEAS AND MAKING THEM INTO PROJECTS.

ENSURING THE GUIDANCE IS FOLLOWED WITH ENSURING THE PROJECTS REGULATIONS ARE FOLLOWED.

JUST THIS WEEK THE BUDGET RELEASED GUIDANCE THAT CHANGED THE WAY WE HANDLE SUB RECIPIENTS.

THAT WAS A MAJOR CHANGE THAT AFFECTED PROJECTS.

JUST TWO DAYS BEFORE THE REPORTS WERE DUE A NEW SET OF FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS RELEASED THAT DRAMATICALLY CHANGED THE ELIGIBILITY FOR PROJECTS INCLUDING OUR RETENTION PROJECT. LUCKILY IT OPENED UP NEW AVENUE

FOR US. >> ON TOP OF THIS GUIDANCE IS CRITICAL. ESPECIALLY AS WE MOVE INTO THE UPDATE TO THE RECOVERY PLAN. LATER THIS SUMMER.

WE CAN SHEPHERD PROJECT IDEAS THROUGH PROJECTS.

A COOPERATIVE PROCESS BACK AND FORTH THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO GET TO IF WE COULD BRING UP THOSE SLIDES.

>> TO GET THIS INTO THE AGENDA. ALL RELATED TO THE AGENDA.

THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR, GET INTO AGENDA.

I HAVE QUESTIONS. I THINK WE CAN ALL MAKE MOTIONS. NOT SOMETHING WE ALREADY DO NOT KNOW. TO WHERE THEY HAVE TO BE QUALIFYING PROJECTS. AGAIN.

>> THE SLIDES THAT HE HAS ASKED FOR WHICH YOU BRING UP THE

SLIDES THANK YOU. >> YOU HAVE INTERRUPTED MULTIPLE TIMES. I AM IN THE PROCESS HERE.

>> NO DIFFERENCE THEN HE WILL ALLOW THIS MAN TO CONTINUE.

>> PLEASE READ THE MOTION. >> IN THE PROCESS OF SPEAKING.

>> I WILL MAKE MOTION. >> ALL IF THAT IS GOING TO DO

IS DELAY IT. >> RESPECT THE PRESIDING OFFICER I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF A DISCUSSION.

>> FACILITATE COMMUNICATION NOT TO HINDER IT.

>> THANK YOU. >> IF A MEMBER HAS MADE A VALID MOTION, THE CHAIR IS POSSIBILITY TO EITHER RECOGNIZE OR STATE SPECIFICALLY WHAT IS THE PROBLEM.

>> IN THE MIDDLE OF RECEIVING INFORMATION.

WE HAVE FOUR MORE SLIDES TO GO THROUGH.

TO MOVE US INTO AGENDA. INSTRUMENTAL EFFECT ON HOW AGENDAS AND MOTIONS WOULD BE MADE.

IF THE MOTION IS MADE TO PUT X MILLION DOLLARS INTO EACH PRECINCT, THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT FRAMEWORK THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE INFORMATION.

>> WE GOT A JUDGE. >> THAT IS NOT A RIGHT TO

DISREGARD MY MOTION. >> IF THE POINT OF ORDER IS NOT WELL TAKEN THEN IT IS NOT WELL TAKEN.

>> IF YOU KNOW FORGIVE ME, AS A PRESIDING OFFICER I AM CONDUCTING THE MEETING I HAVE ALLOWED FOR REASONABLENESS.

THEN WE CAN GO INTO IT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS MAKE MOTIONS WHILE I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF A DISCUSSION INSIDE OF THE WORKSHOP. I NEED TO CONTINUE IN THAT CONVERSATION. ALREADY ASKED FOR ASSISTANCE.

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>> I DID NOT INTERRUPT. >> YOU ARE HERE FOR ADVICE AND COUNSEL. MAKING MY DECISION TO HEAR THE SLIDES. IT IS CERTAINLY IMPORTANT TO THE PEOPLE LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE FROM US TO HEAR THESE RULES.

JUST PUT THEM FORWARD. FOR THE CITIZENS TO HEAR WHAT THE RULES ARE.THEN WE CAN GO INTO AGENDA.

YOUR ADVICE IS APPRECIATED. GOING TO CONTINUE AS THE PRESIDING OFFICER. I HAVE THE FLOOR.

I RECOGNIZE THE MOTIONS. I AM NOT RECOGNIZING IT BECAUSE I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING YOU CANNOT INTERRUPT WITH THE

CHAIR HAS THE FLOOR. >> THE CHAIR HAS THE FLOOR.

WE ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM THOSE SLIDES THEN TAKE A SMALL RECESS FOR BATHROOM. THEN THE REGULAR AGENDA.

THAT IS WHAT THE PRESIDING OFFICER HAS CALLED FOR.

THEY WILL NOT TAKE LONG TOM THEY ARE NOT LONG.

RUN THROUGH THEM VERY QUICKLY FOR OUR PUBLIC WHO NEEDS THIS

INFORMATION. >> ASKED RACHEL.

>> WAIT A MINUTE. >> GO AHEAD.

>> TO SHOW YOU HOW GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WORK WE HAVE LOST A QUORUM. FOR ALL OF YOU ONLINE NO BUSINESS CAN BE CONDUCTED. WE WILL ADJOURN.

THIS MEETING. OKAY.

WE HAVE LOST OUR

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