E. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.

[E. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]

BRIEFING.JU >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, TIMOTHY. AT THIS POINT WILL BRING UP THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND PREPARE ANYBODY ONLINE.

ANYONE ONLINE, DO YOU WISH TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? A VIRTUAL ICON OF A HAND THAT YOU CAN UTILIZE.

OKAY. WITH THAT, I HAVE GOT TWO PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP. AND I NOTE THAT THEY ARE BOTH ON -- FOR AN AGENDA ITEM BUT I WILL CALL YOUR NAME AND IF YOU CONFIRM THAT IS CORRECT. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME OF THE AGENDA ITEM APPROXIMATELY MARSHAL DAVIDSON

AND MR. AARON BURNING. >> JUDGE, IF IT WOULD PLEASE THE COURT, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT NOW.

BECAUSE I HAVE TO LEAVE. >>JUDGE CANALES: ABSOLUTELY, SIR. YOU ABSOLUTELY MAY.

ALSO I GOT YOU DOWN. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS

MORNING. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, SIR.

>> SO MY NAME IS MARSHAL DAVIDSON.

I AM THE EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT AND CO-OWNER OF JM DAVIDSON, INC. A MARINE AND INDUSTRIAL CONSTRUCTION COMPANY PACE THE HERE IN THE COASTAL BEND.

WE ARE ONE OF THE BIDDERS ON THE BOB HALL PIER DEMOLITION AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT ON THEIR DECISION WHO TO AWARD THAT PROJECT TO. SO BOB HALL PIER, AS WE KNOW, WAS BUILT IN THE 1950S AS A WOODEN STRUCTURE.

KNOCKED DOWN BY HURRICANE KARLA AND REBUILT IN 1982 INTO THE STRUCTURE THAT WE SEE TODAY, A STRONG CONCRETE STRUCTURE.

JM DAVIDSON WAS INC. IN THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI IN 2002.

COINCIDENCE, PROBABLY. BUT NEVERTHELESS IMPORTANT.

IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT ILLUSTRATES JM DAVIDSON HAS BEEN A BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI FOR 40 YEARS.

CONTRIBUTING TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY, CONTRIBUTING TO LOCAL CHARITIES, BOLSTERING OUR BUSINESSES, BOLSTER CAN ALL THE TRAINING PROGRAMS AND EMPLOYING SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE COASTAL BEND OVER THOSE 40 YEARS. WE HAD THOUSAND IT IS NOT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES WHO WORKED WITH JM DAVIDSON IN THE COASTAL BEND SINCE THAT TIME. AND IF -- IF I HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT, IT WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.

SO THERE IS A FEW THINGS THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMISSIONERS TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN MAKING THEIR DECISION.

FIRST OF ALL, SIGNIFICANT DEBATE OF USING LOCAL BUSINESSES. I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO USE LOCAL BUSINESSES. LOCAL BUSINESSES SUPPORT LOCAL CHARITIES. LOCAL BUSINESSES EMPLOY PEOPLE LOCALLY. THEY ARE YOUR VOTERS.

THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO CONTRIBUTE TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY.

LOCAL BUSINESSES SUPPORT TRAINING PROGRAMS SUCH AS CRAFT TRAINING CENTER SUCH AS DEL MAR COLLEGE.

IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO RUN A BUSINESS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AUTHORITIES OR LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS. SO THE MARINE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO CORPUS CHRISTI.

MOST OF OUR COMPETITORS ARE FROM HOUSTON OR NEW ORLEANS.

IT TOOK MANY, MANY YEARS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BUY THE BARGES, THE DREDGE EQUIPMENT, THE CRANES AND THE TUGBOATS NECESSARY TO EVEN BE ABLE TO COMPETE TO DO THIS JOB.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND THE LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS, WE WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO T THAT. AND FOR THAT MATTER, THE PRICE THAT THE COUNTY OR THAT THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI WOULD BE PAYING AS A RESULT WITH NOT HAVING A LOCAL VEND THEIR CAN EVEN PERFORM THIS JOB WOULD BE PROBABLY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF EXCESS. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD CONSIDERING OF HOW CAPITAL INTENSIVE THE MARINE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS IT IS AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO SUPPORT THAT.

BECAUSE THAT MAKES THIS AREA BETTER.

IT BRINGS THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT KNOW HOW TO DO THAT WORK TO CORPUS CHRISTI. INSTEAD OF OTHER PLACES ON THE GULF COAST. COUPLE OTHER THINGS -- THREE OTHER THINGS. THESE ARE THREE THINGS THAT WERE NOT CONSIDERED DURING THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE AWARD OF BOB HALL PIER. ONE, NO ONE ASKED JM DAVIDSON WHAT HUB-ZONED BUSINESSES THIS HE WOULD UTILIZE IN PERFORMING THIS WORK. I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT THE FIRST THING THAT JN DAVIDSON DID UPON RECEIVING A CONTRACT FROM THE COUNTY WAS TO CALL A LOCAL VETERAN AND MINORITY-OWNED ENGINEERING CONSULTANT TO WORK WITH US TO DETERMINE WHAT THE WORK PLAN WOULD BE IN DEMOLISHING THE

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PIER. DID THE COMPETITOR DO THAT? I THOUGHT IT. THE SECOND THING WE DID WAS HIRE ANOTHER MINORITY-OWNED BUSINESS TO HELP US FIGHT FOR THIS CONTRACT. WE ALSO IMMEDIATELY CALLED LOCAL OWNERS OF MARINE EQUIPMENT IN ORDER TO HELP BOLSTER OUR ASSETS TO DO THE JOB.

DID THE COMPANY FROM HOUSTON DO THAT? I DOUBT IT. THESE WHY JUST A FEW MINUTES -- YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER THAT WERE NOT CONSIDERED DURING THE DEBATE. ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD AN OFFSHORE REEF FROM THE CONCRETE RUBBLE THAT IS RECOVERED FROM BOB HALL PIER.

THE CONTRACT DOES NOT MANDATE THAT WE TAKE THAT RUBBLE OFFSHORE. LEAVES IT UP TO THE CONTRACTOR DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH IT. YOU CAN EITHER BRING IT BACK ONSHORE AND DISPOSE OF IT, CRUSH IT, TURN IT INTO A ROAD OR TAKE IT OFFSHORE AND BUILD A REEF.

I CAN TELL YOU IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE TO TAKE IT OFF SHORE.

BUT OUR PLAN INCLUDED TAKING IT OFFSHORE AND MAKING A REEF.

NOTHING ASKED IN THE BID AND SOMETHING TO BE DISCUSSED SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED WHEN EVALUATING IF THIS IS GOOD FOR THE AREA OR NOT.

AND IT WASN'T. FINALLY, THE SCHEDULE.

I THINK THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ITEM.

THE SCHEDULE WASN'T CONSIDERED WHEN AWARDING THIS JOB.

IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK IN THE NEWS REPORTS FROM THE PAST THREE WEEKS FIND BRANDON BICKNEL, THE PRESIDENT OF RUSSELL CONSTRUCTION IDENTIFYING HE WOULD EMPLOY 40 TO 50 EMPLOYEES FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS TO DO THE PROJECT.

FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS IS ABOUT 150 DAYS.

THE SCHEDULE REQUIREMENT ON THIS JOB SET BY THE COUNTY IS 100 DAYS. SO HE IS ALREADY INDICATING THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FINISH THE JOB IN THE ALLOTTED AMOUNT OF TIME. OUR SCHEDULE IS GOING TO BE 90 DAYS. THAT IS HOW LONG IT TAKES TO DEMOLISH THAT PIER. RIGHT OFF THE BAT YOU KNOW OUR SCHEDULE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER BID IR.

THAT WASN'T DISCUSSED DURING DEBATE WHEN DISCUSSING THE AWARD OF THE CONTRACT. SO WHETHER THEY ARE USING LOCAL BUSINESSES, WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE USING HUB-ZONED BUSINESSES. , WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE OF BUILDING AN OFF SHORE REEF AND WHAT THEIR SCHEDULE IS NOT THINGS THAT WERE DISCUSSED AND ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO AWARD A CONTRACT. OUR PRICE WAS NEGLIGIBLE.

WITH THAT I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO AWARD THE JOB TO JM DAVIDSON AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ALL YOUR EFFORT.

THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU,

SIR. >> WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SPEAK

NOW, JUDGE CANALES OR WAIT? >> I WILL SPEAK BEFORE THE I

ITEM. >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER

CHESNEY. >> I WANT TO TAKE A PERSONAL PRIVILEGE TO CONGRATULATE COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ ON AN OUTSTANDING VICTORY AND WELCOME HIM BACK TO FOUR YEARS.

I APPRECIATE YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE.

I KNOW HOW HARD YOU WORKED. HOW HARD YOUR FAMILY WORKED.

I KNOW WHAT A SACRIFICE AS WE ALL TO DO RUN CAMPAIGNS TO BE OUT ON THE STREET PUTTING YOUR NAME ON THE BALLOT AS MANY TIMES AS YOU HAVE. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND WISH YOU THE BEST AND GLAD YOU WILL BE BACK FOR FOUR MORE

YEARS. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ:

CONGRATULATIONS, COMMISSIONER. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THANK

YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

I ALSO SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND I WILL REFER TO A QUICK NOTE BECAUSE TODAY IS NATIONAL READ ACROSS AMERICA DAY. AND I THINK ALL ACROSS OUR COMMUNITY, WE WILL HAVE CELEBRITY READERS AND PARENTS AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS, CERTAIN MINISTERS AND REVERENDS READING TO OUR CHILDREN ALL ACROSS OUR SCHOOLS.

AND TODAY IS THE DAY WE CELEBRATE OUR TEACHERS.

THE MOST IMPORTANT -- IMPO IMPORTANT, I SUPPOSE, LESSON THAT WE EMBARK UPON WHEN WE TAKE OUR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL IS LEARNING THE ALPHABET AND GIVING THEM THE GIFT OF REA READING. WHICH ONCE YOU KNOW HOW TO DO WILL NEVER BE TAKEN FROM YOU AND ALWAYS WILL LIBERATE YOU AND ENLIGHTEN YOU. SO TODAY IS A WONDERFUL DAY.

I AM SORRY, COMMISSIONERS, THAT WE ARE HERE AND NOT IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS, BUT HOPEFULLY YOU WILL TAKE THE TIME THURSDAY AND FRIDAY TO PICK UP SOME BOOKS AND HEAD TO YOUR LOCAL SCHOOL WHEREVER IT IS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN YOUR NECK OF THE WOODS AND ENJOY THAT MOMENT.

AND ANYWAY, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO ECHO WAS -- IT WAS A WONDERFUL DAY YESTERDAY AS WAS ALREADY REMARKED BY COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. IT WAS ELECTION DAY.

COMPLETE AND PERFECT SYMBOL OF OUR FLAG AND OUR FREEDOMS THAT WE ENJOY IN THIS COUNTRY. AND AS I WENT ALL OVER NUECES COUNTY, IT IS VERY EVIDENCE TO ME THAT WE HAVE A VERY PAT

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PATRIOTIC COMMUNITY AND ONE THAT IS COMMITTED TO EXERCISING THIS PRECIOUS RIGHT WE CALL THE VOTE.

SO, AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF THOSE WHO ARE VICT VICTORIOUS. BUT PLEASE REMEMBER, I KNOW THE CLERK IS GOING TO REMIND US, BUT WE HAVE RUNOFFS.

THERE ARE GOING TO BE RUNOFF FOR BOTH STATE-WIDE ELECTIONS AND SOME CONGRESSIONAL RACES AS WELL.

AND SO I THINK -- AND LOCAL RACES.

SO WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE STAY VERY ATTUNED TO THOSE DATES AND THE VOTING LOCATIONS AND I BET WITHIN -- MAYBE NEXT COURT, WE WILL BE BRINGING BACK INFORMATION WITH REGARDS TO OUR RUNOFF.

WITH THAT, I SEE -- I WILL ASK IF DEPUTY HAS ANYBODY ELSE.

I SEE NO OTHER FURTHER COMMENT. >> CAN I PUT THIS DOWN, JUDGE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: SURE. THEN I WILL CALL ON COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. COMMISSIONER, I WILL WRITE IT

DOWN FOR YOU. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: JU JUDGE, I WILL TAKE THAT AS A CONGRATULATIONS FROM YOU AND I

REALLY APPRECIATE IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT IS, SIR.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I WANT TO SAY THAT THE ELECTION WENT VERY WELL. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE KARA AND HER STAFF THAT WERE OUT THERE WORKING AND DOING A GOOD JOB.

I DIDN'T HEAR ANY COMPLAINTS, YOU KNOW.

AND MADE ME WONDER -- AND WITH TWO LITTLE ONES AND WORK THAT OUT. I WANT TO SAY THE ATTITUDE OF MOST OF THE PEOPLE OUT THERE WAS GREAT.

AND PEOPLE REALLY APPRECIATED. I THINK YOU GUYS DID AN EXCEL ECHBILITY JOB AND WITH THAT IN MIND THE VOTING CENTERS THAT WE DECIDED TO HAVE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO IS REALLY WORKING.

AND I WANT TO THANK YOU -- AND YOUR STAFF FOR A GREAT JOB THAT YOU ALL DID. CONGRATULATIONS.

>> THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: WOULD YOU

LIKE TO SIGN UP TOO. >> CONGRATULATIONS, COMMISSIONER. HAPPY TO SEE YOU BACK.

ALSO MY STAFF. WE HAD A GREAT ELECTION.

SEAMLESS ELECTION. AND YOU KNOW WHAT, BECAUSE I HAVE A GREAT STAFF, A H HARD-WORKING STAFF AND ALL THE ELECTION CLERKS AND JUDGES. AND THE VOTERS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH TO MY STAFF. I LOVE THEM.

THEY WORK HARD. I KNOW IT IS STRESSFUL, BUT THANK YOU ALL. NUECES COUNTY IS VERY LUCKY TO HAVE THEM. BECAUSE THEY CARE.

AND THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE THAT VOTES, THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE AND THEIR VOTE COUNTS.

THAT IS SO IMPORTANT. WE HAD OUR RESULTS OUT.

EARLY VOTING AT 7:03. AND ALL THE BOXES WERE IN AND FINAL UNOFFICIAL RESULTS BEFORE THE 10:00 NEWS.

I DON'T THINK WE COULD DO BETTER THAN THAT.

SEAMLESS. YOU KNOW WHAT AND OUR ELECTIONS IN NUECES COUNTY ARE FAIR. YOU KNOW WHAT, YOUR VOTE IS GOING TO COUNT. JUST THANK YOU AND THANK YOU,

COMMISSIONERS. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU DID A GREAT JOB.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WITH THAT WE WILL MOVE ON.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK SHE BROKE A RECORD.

THE EARLY VOTING UP BY 7:03. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT.

SO CONGRATULATIONS ON A GREAT ELECTION.

>> A GREAT STAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS GR GREAT. CONGRATULATIONS TO THE STAFF.

[1. In recognition of Vietnam Veterans Day on March 29, 2022.]

AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE A FULL HOUSE AND I AM GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEM WHICH IS A VERY IMPORTANT ONE.

AND IT IS THE RECOGNITION OF VIETNAM VETERANS DAY.

AND THAT WE WILL FIND ON OUR EYE F-1.

AND I ASK BELINDA TO PLEASE INTRODUCE THIS RECOGNITION.

>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT OUR VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER IS HERE AS WELL AS NUMEROUS REPRESENTATIVES WHO ARE VIETNAM VIETNAM VETERANS THAT ARE HERE. WHEREAS, IN HONOR OF VETERANS IN NUECES COUNTY AND VIETNAM VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICA CHAPTER 910 AND ALL VIETNAM-ERA VETERANS OF TEXAS AND WE REMEMBER THOSE WHO DEFENDED THIS GREAT LAND OF OURS.

THOSE WHO LIVED THROUGH THE HORROR OF WAR, CAME HOME SICK AND INJURED AND TOOK THEIR LAST BREATH IN BATTLE.

OUR VIETNAM AND VIETNAM VET VETERANS OF TEXAS GAVE UP THE EASE AND SECURITY OF LIFE LEAVING FARM AND FACTORY, HOME AND CLASSROOM TO DEFEND THE UNITED STATES'S FREEDOMS WE ENJOY EVERY DAY. ON THIS VIETNAM VETERANS DAY IN TEXAS WE REMEMBER AND HONOR ALL VETERANS AND ESPECIALLY HONOR THOSE WHO GIVE LIMB AND INJURY TO SACRIFICE FOR OUR FREEDOM.

NUECES COUNTY WILL BE COMMEMORATING VIETNAM VETERAN S MEMORIAL DAY AT CHERYL VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK.

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT TUESDAY MARCH 9, 2022 IS DECLARED VIETNAM VETERANS DAY IN ALL OF NUECES COUNTY AND THE COURT RECOGNIZES THOSE WHO DEFENDED OUR GREAT LAND OF OURS

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AND PROTECTED OUR FREEDOM AND URGES ALL CITIZENS OF NUECES COUNTY TO JOIN THE COURT OF HON HERS THE VIETNAM VETERANS OF

TEXAS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO

MOVED. >> SECOND.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I HAVE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND AND RECOGNIZE J.J. DELASADA, OUR VETERANS SERVICE OFFICER AND I ASK THAT YOU HELP RECOGNIZE ALL THE GREAT VETERANS IN THE ROOM

HERE. >> YES, MA'AM.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AS AN IRAQ VETERAN, NOT ONLY THE VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER OF NUECES BUT AS A IRAQ VETERAN I THANK VETERANS EVERY DAY. MAIN REASON IS, THEY WEREN'T WELCOMED HOME LIKE WE WERE. THEY WERE SPAT ON.

AND I TAKE THAT VERY PERS PERSONALLY.

AND SO NOT ONLY DID THEY CHANGE THAT FOR THEMSELVES, BUT THEY CHANGED THAT FOR ALL FUTURE GENERATIONS INCLUDING MINE.

FOR ME, VIETNAM VETERANS DAY IS EVERY SINGLE DAY.

I ADMIRE THEM. I AM INSPIRED BY THEM EVERY SINGLE DAY AND I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

THANK YOU, VEETD VOTES. WE HAVE MR. HECTOR ARULIO HERE.

DO YOU WANT TO COME ON UP? MR. TC IS HERE.

MR. PEREZ. DID YOU WANT THEM UP FRONT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I WOULD LIKE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY MORE COMMENTS.

I JUST WANTED TO HAVE YOU REMIND THE AUDIENCE AND OUR LISTENS AT HOME. WE HAVE A VERY SPECIAL CEREMONY IN CHERYL PARK. IF YOU WILL REMIND EVERYBODY AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE CEREMONY COMING ON MARCH 29 AT THE FALLEN HEROES MEMORIAL SOMETHING WE DO EVERY YEAR AND INVITE ALL TO COMMEMORATE THAT IMPORTANT CEREMONY. WELCOME.

>> JUDGE, ON BEHALF OF THOSE VIETNAM VETERANS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY, I CONVEY TO YOU PERSONALLY AND TO THE COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE WITH Y YOU, THAT AS A TEAM, AS A MEMBER OF THE ARMED FORCES, WE THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME THIS DAY TO GIVE US THAT RECOGNITION AND THANK YOU AND WELCOME BACK.

YOU KNOW EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US, YOU CAN SEE FROM THE BALDING, THE WHITE HAIR, THE NO HAIR.

YOU CAN ASK ANY ONE OF THESE VETERANS TODAY -- I HAVEN'T EVEN LOOKED AROUND TO SEE WHO IS HERE.

MOST ARE MY COMRADES AND FRIENDS WHO WORKED IN OUR COMMUNITY. I WILL TELL YOU WHAT, JUDGE, WE WOULD DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN. JUDGE I KNOW YOU WOULD.

>> YOU MENTIONED SPAT ON WHEN WE GOT OFF OF THE PLANE.

FOR US IT WAS LIKE TAKING A SHOT AND IT DIDN'T KILL US.

WE ARE HERE FOR THIS COUNTRY AND WOULD DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN.

THANK YOU TO MUCH THAT NUECES COUNTY ALWAYS STOOD BEHIND THEIR VETERANS. YOU PERSONALLY, JUDGE, WERE THERE AT THE VETERANS. AND YOUR RHETORIC AND ACTIONS SHOW THAT YOU MEAN WHAT YOU SAY.

THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ALREADY BEEN WITH US.

THEY ARE OUT THERE WITH US AT THE DIFFERENT CAMPSITES.

I KNOW THEY WILL BE WITH US AT CHERYL PARK.

BUT I HAD TO COME HERE AND GIVE YOUR PERSONAL THANKS FOR EVERY VETERANS, NOT ONLY THE ONES THAT ARE HERE BUT EVERY SINGLE VIETNAM VETERAN IN THIS COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, WELL SAID. [APPLAUSE]

>> I WANT TO SAY ONE THING. SALUTE YOU GUYS.

>> THANK YOU. >> AS A BROTHER AND A SISTER AND AS A VETERAN, SALUTE YOU. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.

>> CARRY ON. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

WE WOULD BE HONORED TO HAVE A PHOTO WITH YOU ALL.

I HAVE THE RESOLUTION THAT IS SIGNED.

I THINK IT'S -- LET ME SEE. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, IT IS RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF YOU. IF YOU WILL SIGN AND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY WILL SIGN. AND WE CAN GATHER UP FRONT, IF YOU WOULD LIKE. WHILE WE ARE WAITING FOR THOSE SIGNATURES, I JUST WANT TO REMARK THAT WHAT A HE SAID IS SO TRUE. YOU PAVED THE WAY FOR SO MANY.

JUST THIS MORNING OUR VERY OWN BURN PITS 360 IS BEING DISCUSSED AT THE NATIONAL LE LEVEL.

AND THAT IS REALLY BECAUSE OF THE VIETNAM VETERAN -- VETERANS THAT FOUGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT AGENT ORANGE WOULD BE A DISEASE THAT WOULD BE COVERED UNDER YOUR VA HEALTH BENEFITS.

THE SAME THING IS OCCURRING FOR THE VERY OWN NUECES COUNTY ENDEAVOR. YOU ALL DID THAT.

GOOD MORNING. WE WILL BE RIGHT THERE.

WE CAN STAND -- LET'S SEE HOW -- WHO WILL TAKE OUR PHOTO?

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>>JUDGE CANALES: MY HONOR TO JOIN YOU.

I CAN TAKE OFF MY HEELS. I AM REAL LITTLE.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

>>JUDGE CANALES: AGAIN. IT IS CHERYL PARK.

I BELIEVE MARCH 12 AT 10 A.M. WE WILL SEE YOU THERE.

AND THEN AGAIN HERE AT OUR FALLEN HEROES MEMORIAL ON MARCH 29. SO NOW WE WILL MOVE AFTER THAT MOVING MOMENT TO ITEM F-2, WHICH IS IN RECOGNITION -- WE DID NOT VOTE. THAT'S CORRECT.

I DID HAVE A MOTION BY CHESNEY AND A SECOND BY GONZALEZ AND

[2. In recognition of March 2022 as National Social Worker month.]

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. NUMBER TWO IS THE RECOGNITION OF MARCH BEING -- MARCH BEING THE NATIONAL SOCIAL WORKER MONTH. FOR THIS YEAR, WE HAVE A

SPECIAL RESOLUTION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHAT

TIME WAS THE CHERYL PARK. >> 10 A.M.

WE HAVE REBECCA ROCK SOCIAL SERVICES AND NUMEROUS SOCIAL WORKERS FOR HAD RESOLUTION. WHEREAS THE SOCIAL WORK PROFESSION FOR DECADES HAVE BEEN DEDICATED FOR IMPROVING HUMAN WELL BEING AND ENHANCING THE BASIC NEEDS OF ALL PEOPLE INCLUDING THE MOST VULNERABLE EVENT.

WHEREAS THIS YEAR SOCIAL WORK MONTH THEME, THE TIME IS RIGHT FOR SOCIAL WORK EMBODIES HOW SOCIAL WORKERS ROSE TO MEET THE PRESSING CHALLENGES OF OUR LIFETIME, THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC EVEN AS OUR NATION CONTINUES TO GRAPPLE WITH OTHER CRISES SUCH AS ECONOMIC INEQUALITY. WHEREAS SOCIAL WORKERS ARE THE LARGEST GROUP OF MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS IN THE UTSD.

AND WORK DAILY TO HELP PEOPLE WHETHER IN PERSON OR REMOTELY OVER SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDERS AND MENTAL ILLNESSES SUCH AS DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY. SOCIAL WORKERS HAVE ALREADY HELPED PEOPLE OVERCOME ISSUES SUCH AS DEATH AND GRIEF AND HELP PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES RECOVER FROM INCREASING NATURAL

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DISASTERS SUCH AS HURRICANES. SOCIAL WORKERS HAVE HELPED THIS NATION LIVE UP TO THE VALUES BY SUCCESSFULLY ADVOCATING FOR EQUAL RIGHTS OF ALL. THE SOCIAL WORK PRO IS ONE OF FASTEST GROWING CAREERS IN THE UNITED STATES WITH MORE THAN 715,000 SOCIAL WORKERS TODAY AND 800 PROFESSIONALS EXPECTED TO SHALL EMPLOYED BY SOCIAL WORKERS BY 2028.

SOCIAL WORKERS HAVE CONTINUED TO PUSH FOR CHANGES OF OUR SATURDAY A BET HE IS PLACE TO LIVE.

A LIVABLE WAGE, IMPROVED SAFETY AND PROGRAMS TO HELP AMELIORATE POVERTY AND HOMELESSNESS. SOCIAL WORKERS POSSESS THE NECESSARY EXPERTISE TO ASSIST OUR NATION IN SOME OF THE MOST DEMANDING CONCERNS INCLUDING THE HEALTH AND WELL BEING NOT ONLY DURING THE PANDEMIC BUT AT ALL TIMES ENSURING EQUAL RIGHTS, IMPROVED HEALTH CARE AND MENTAL HEALTH CARE.

SOCIAL WORKERS WORK IN ALL FACETS OF OUR SATURDAY TO MEET PEOPLE NO MATTER THEIR CIRCUMSTANCE AND EMPOWER THEM TO LIVE TO THEIR FULLEST POTENTIAL.

NOW, THEREFORE, IT BE RESOLVED THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF NUECES COUNTY IN HONOR OF THE NUMEROUS CONTRIBUTIONS OF AMERICAN SOCIAL WORKER PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MARCH 2022 AS NATIONAL SOCIAL WORK MONTH AND THE CITIZENS OF NUECES COUNTY TOO CELEBRATE THE WORK OF THE NUECES PROFESSION.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: RECOGNIZE REBECCA ROCK OF THE SOCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

SHE HAS HER STAFF WITH HER. WELCOME.

>> JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU FOR THE RECOGNITION OF OUR PROFESSION AND THE CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THE SERVICES THAT WE OFFER.

RIGHT NOW I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE SOME MY LICENSED SOCIAL WORKERS. ELAINE, THE SOCIAL WORK SUPERVISOR. ESTHER IN OUR CORPUS CHRISTI OFFICE. AND LYDIA RODRIGUEZ, POSITION WORKER AND HANDLES OUR BURIAL AND CREMATION CASES.

AS I WAS READING OVER THE PROCLAMATION, IT SAY A LOT OF, BUT THE THING THAT STUCK OUT TO ME MOST IT SAYS SOCIAL WORKERS WORK DAILY TO HELP PEOPLE BY ENHANCING THEIR BASIC NEEDS.

AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT OUR OFFICE DOES.

SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK THEM.

THEY ARE A GREAT TEAM. AND THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING

US. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU SO MUCH. I DON'T THINK THAT AS WELL WRITTEN AS THAT RESOLUTION WAS REALLY DOES IT JUSTICE TO THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE PERFORMED MOST PARTICULARLY ALL THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC. WHEN YOU WENT INTO PEOPLE'S HOMES, WHEN YOU HELPED PROVIDE THEM FOOD.

WHEN THEY COULD NOT GO OUT. PROVIDING ALL OF THE BASIC NECESSITIES OF LIFE, CLOTHING, SHELTER, THE ISOVAC UNIT AND I CAN GO ON AND ON AND IN FACT I AM FAIRLY CONVINCE THAT WE REALLY DO NEED TO MEMORIALIZE ALL THE WORK THAT DID GO ON BECAUSE SOMETIMES, PEOPLE ARE FORGETTING NOW.

CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT WILL HAPPEN 20 YEARS FROM NOW IF WE DO NOT REMEMBER RIGHT NOW THE WORK THAT YOUR OFFICE UNDERTOOK UNDER EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES.

SO I JUST -- I THINK IT IS YOUR MONTH ALL YEAR LONG FOR THOSE POEM WHO ARE MOST VULNERABLE. A HIGH SOCIAL VULNERABILITY INDEX. I AM WORRIED ABOUT OUR FOOD INSECURITY. COUNTYWIDE.

AND IT MAN FESTS ITSELF IN THE SOCIAL SERVICES OUR EYES ARE WIDE OPEN AND MY EARS AS WELL. AND PLEASE LET US KNOW HOW OUR SERVICES CAN BE ENHANCED TO HELP MORE PEOPLE.

>> YES, MA'AM, I ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON THAT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL -- NOT QUESTIONS, BUT COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER MAREZ.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: THANK YOU FOR YOUR TEAM STEPPING UP.

EVERY SEMESTER SINCE -- THE FALL OF 2017 MY FIRST YEAR AT COMMISSIONERS COURT. I HAD A MSW STUDENT IN MY OFFICE INTERNING EVERY SEMESTER AND THIS SEMESTER -- THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY PASSION TO SUPPORT OUR SOCIAL WORKERS BOTH PERSONALLY AND PROFESSIONALLY. HAVE A LOT OF FAMILY AND GOOD FRIENDS WHO ARE SOCIAL WORKERS. THE WORK WE DO ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY AND JUST OUR COMMUNITY SAY A LOT OF ABOUT, I THINK,

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THE PEOPLE WE ARE. WE ARE VERY CARING AND GIVING COMMUNITY. AND WE -- WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO SHOW THAT TO THE PUBLIC. AND WE DO THAT HOPEFULLY COMING THIS SUMMER AND LEADING INTO THE FALL.

BECAUSE WORDS ARE -- WORDS ARE FINE.

BUT ACTIONS ARE EVEN MORE. SO WE NEED TO DO THAT.

I AGREE, JUDGE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK, TIRELESS WORK. I ALWAYS LOOK FORWARD TO MARCH AND I GUESS BEING -- ALWAYS BEING AROUND SOCIAL WORKERS BUT NOT BEING A PART OF THEM, I CAN SEE IT FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. BUT YOU ALL DO AMAZING WORK.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, OUR HONOR -- ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. WE WILL TAKE A PHOTO AND PRESENT YOU WITH THE RESOLUTION.

IS IT READY, EMMA

>> THANK YOU, LADIES. >> THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK.

>> MUCHO GRACIAS.

[1. Discuss disaster preparedness and response, including matters related to COVID-19, Emergency Orders, severe weather, flooding, drainage, economic recovery, state and federal assistance, American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA), Emergency Rental Assistance Program (ERAP), and infrastructure status, and other related matters.]

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS OUR GENERAL INFORMATION REPORTS. AND I NOTE WE HAVE MR. LOUIE RAY FROM EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. YOU ARE THE MANAGE MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR AND HELPS US FOCUS ON DISASTER PREPAREDNESS AND RESPONSE AND CONTAINS A VARIETY OF MATTERS ERAP, ARPA, COV COVID-19. I WILL TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO MR. RAY AND GIVE US A HIGHLIGHT REEL OF THIS GENERAL

INFORMATION REPORT. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE.

GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> START OFF WITH OUR FORECAST. SO THE FORECAST IS DRY WITH INCREASING WARM CONDITIONS FOR THE WEEK.

AND FOG ALL WEEK LONG AND RIGHT NOW DON'T KNOW THE EXACT TIME FRAME, BUT WILL DEVELOP THE FORECAST.

RAIN WILL RETURN TO OUR FORECAST SOME TIME NEXT WEEK.

SO THE KBBA, THE INDEX WE USE TO JUDGE AND ISSUE A BAN ON BURNING OUTSIDE. THE KBDI AVERAGES ABOUT 424 FOR THIS WEEK. WE HAD A MAX OF 547 OVER THE WEEK. THE ENGAGEMENTS FOR THE -- THE EOC FOR THE NEXT -- FOR THE 30-DAY PLUS.

WE ARE STILL DEVELOPING THE HURRICANE CONFERENCE HAPPENED MAY 2 THROUGH 6. RM B.

THE 2022 EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CONFERENCE WILL HAPPEN ON MAY 31 THROUGH JUNE 3. THAT WILL BE IN SAN ANTONIO.

FOR THIS MONTH, THE 30-DAY OUTLOOK FOR THE EOC.

SO WE HAD A COUPLE OF TEAM MEMBERS GO TO THE UNION PACIFIC TRAINING. A RAILCAR TRAINING FOR UNDERSTAND GOING THERE IS AN EMERGENCY FOR ANYTHING ON THE RAILHEAD AND HOW TO BRING THAT KNOWLEDGE BACK TO THE EOC AND ENGAGE. IF THAT PARTICULAR INCIDENT TURNS INTO AN EMERGENCY HOW TO ENGAGE OUR FORCES TO HELP.

WE ARE PLANNING A EXERCISE WITNESS RED CROSS.

THE 26TH OF MARCH. WE ARE STILL TALKING THAT THROUGH AS WELL. THE E OC IS STARTING TO DEVELOP A COMMUNICATION EXERCISE AND COMMUNICATION TRAINING.

IT HELPS US TO UNDER STAND OF OUR INOPERABILITY AS WELL AS OUR COMMUNITY AND EQUIPMENT WE HAVE ON HAND.

WE STARTED LAST WEEK. WE ARE GOING TO START TAKING NOTES AND UPDATING OUR CALENDAR SO EVERYONE WILL KNOW WHAT WE

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ARE DOING AND WE WILL START TO REACH OUT ACROSS THE SPECTRUM OF THE REGION. SO THAT WE CAN HAVE MORE PLAY IN OUR OPERATIONS. THE BIGGEST THING WE HAVE GOING ON THIS MONTH IS OUR EM PLAN UPDATES.

WE ARE CHANGING THE EM PLAN FROM THE TRADITIONAL ANNEXES AND APPENDICES TO WHAT IS MORE ACCEPTED WITH FEMA, WHICH IS THE USE OF THE EMERGENCY SUPPORT FUNCTIONS RIGHT NOW 15 EMERGENCY SUPPORT FUNCTIONS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DEVELOP.

WHAT WE ENDED UP DOING IS TAKING PART OF THOSE ANNEXES AND APPENDICES AND PUT THEM IN THE RIGHT PLACES FOR THE EMERGENCY SUPPORT FUNCTIONS. THIS IS GOING TO TAKE A SIGNATURE WITH THE JUDGE AND THE MAYORS AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL TO HAVE A LOOK AT IT. SO WE WILL PLAN TO TRY TO HAVE THAT DONE BY THE END OF MARCH. ALSO WITH THAT, THERE ARE S SUDDEN GRANTS OF HAVING AN UPDATED EM PLAN.

RIGHT? WE REACHED OUT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT DATE THEY NEED OUR EM PLAN COMPLETED.

AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE STILL HAVE SOME TIME TO GET IT UPDATED BUT TRADITIONALLY THE END OF MARCH WE WILL HAVE IT DONE.

COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. NUECES REGIONAL FLOOD PLANNING GROUP WILL HAVE THREE MEETINGS OVER THE NEXT MONTH.

ON THE 8TH IN CA ACTUAL LA. THE 21 -- CATOULA.

AND THE 22 NORTHBOUND SENDEN. WE ATTENDED THE COASTAL BEND COG -- FRIDAY WE ATTENDED THE COASTAL BEND COG STATEWIDE INOPERABILITY CONFERENCE. YESTERDAY WE ATTENDED THE LAPC AND GENERAL MEETING. COVID.

SO OUR COVID -- OUR COVID INFECTION RATE IS ABOUT 10% RIGHT NOW WE HAD PLANNED ON DOING COVID TESTING EVERY THURSDAY. AND WE ARE TALKING TO THE CITY NOW TO SEE HOW THAT WILL GO FORWARD.

SOME OF THE ISSUES AND CONCERNS WE HAVE.

LAST WEEK WE HAD A FIRE THAT STARTED WITH AN OUTDOOR BUR BURNING. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT ACREAGE THAT WAS BURNED, BUT WE HAD THREE FIRE DEPARTMENTS RESPOND TO THAT ALONG WITH THE NUECES COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL.

I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT A BURN BAN THIS IS PLACE FOR 30 DAYS. THE PERSON THAT STARTED THAT FIRE WAS ISSUED A CITATION BY THE NUECES COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL.

WE ARE STARTING TO GET INTO A SEASON WHERE RIP TIDES ARE HAPPENING, SO WE NEED TO BE VIGILANT OF THAT.

AND THE EOC DEVELOPMENT IS THE LAST THING I WANT TO TALK AB ABOUT. THERE ARE GOING TO BE CHANGES GOING ON WITH THE EOC AS WE TRY TO DEVELOPMENT OUR SOPS AND PLANS TO MAKE IT MORE FUNCTIONAL AREA.

WE TALK EXTENSIVELY OF CHANGING SOME OF THE FURNITURE AROUND SO WHEN YOU COME UP THERE, THERE MAY BE SOME CHANGES HAPPENING UP THERE AS WELL. OTHER THAN THAT, JUDGE,

COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? >>JUDGE CANALES: ANY QUESTIONS

THAT ANYBODY HAS? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT IS A GREAT REPORT AND EVEN GREATER JACKET THAT YOU HAVE ON. THAT IS VERY SHARP.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. I GIVE ALL CREDIT TO MY WIFE.

SHE HAS TERRIFIC TASTE. SHE MARRIED ME.

THAT'S HOW WE ARE GOING TO GO WITH IT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: GO WITH IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SEND HER THAT VIDEO. WE GOT IT.

THANK YOU, SIR. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? I THINK MAYBE LOUIE, MAYBE FOR NEXT TIME.

I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION LAST TIME ABOUT ERAP 2. AND I KNOW THERE IS GOING TO BE GOOD QUESTIONS, SOCIAL SERVICES JUST LEFT, AND THAT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY. AND CLICKED ON MY MIND MAYBE ON NEXT AGENDA WE WILL BRIEF THE COURT A LITTLE MORE WHO YOU TO MANAGE ADMINISTRATIVELY, ERAP 2, EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMMING. AND OUR ERAP 1 FANS HAVE EXPIRED. WE HAVE ERAP 2.

WHAT IS INTERESTING -- EVEN IF RENT IS NOT AN ISSUE FOR FOLKS, THE UTILITIES CAN BE PAID FROM ERAP TOO.

THAT IS WHERE WE ARE ADDED FOR NEXT TIME AND I WANTED TO WRITE DOWN IN MY NOTES I WANT THE COURT TO HAVE A ABOUT OUR

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TEMPORARY GENERATORS AND NEED TO KEEP THEM ON STANDBY AS THE PERMANENT GENERATORS ARE INSTALLED.

THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT -- SORT OF A WINDOW INTO NEXT WEEK OR THE WEEK AFTER -- REALLY THE 16TH, I SUPPOSE.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE. BUT THANK YOU, AND I WILL EBB

COTHE GOOD JACKET. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

>> YES, COMMISSIONER. >> YOU SAID THAT THE FIRE

MARSHAL ISSUED A CITATION? >> YES.

>> HE DID? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANKS AGAIN. COMMISSIONERS, WE WILL MOVE ON.

NO ACTION. JUST A REPORT.

MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ITEMS A THROUGH I.

I WOULD LIKE TO PULL I, WHICH IS THE BOB HALL PIER DEMO DEMOLITION. ANY OTHER ITEMS, COMMISSIONERS, THAT NEED TO BE PULLED? IF NOT, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A

MOTION FOR SUCH APPROVAL. >> ITEM G.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ITEM G AS IN GIRL?

>> YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: GOT IT.

COMMISSIONERS. NOTHING ELSE.

HOW ABOUT A MOTION FOR ALL ITEMS A THROUGH F.

AND THEN H. A-F THEN H.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY

[G. Approve application procedure for South Texas Water Authority Board of Directors.]

SAYING AYE. OKAY, WE WILL TAKE IT IN ORDER.

ITEM G IS THE SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY BOARD OF DIRECTIONS.

THIS IS THE APPLICATION PROCEDURE ONLY.

COMMISSIONER. >> YES, JUDGE, I AM GOING TO BE

ABSTAINING ON THAT ITEM. >>JUDGE CANALES: WITH THE RECORD CAN PLEASE REFLECT THAT. THE APPLICATION PROCEDURE THE SAME AS IT ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AS LONG AS WE ARE ON IT.

NO DIFFERENCE? >> NO DIFFERENCE, JUDGE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE MOVE PASSAGE IF THAT'S ALL.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S IT. A SECOND.

>> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY

[I. Authorize award of CSP No. 3187-21 Bob Hall Pier Demolition to Russell Marine, LLC; and authorize execution of agreement.]

SAYING AYE. OPPOSED.

>> ABSTAIN. >>JUDGE CANALES: ONE ABSTENTION. ITEM I IS THE AUTHORIZATION AWARD CSP NUMBER 3187-21 BOB HALL PIER DEMOLITION TO RUSSELL MARINE. I WILL RECOGNIZE MR. BURCH.

>> THANK YOU, AND GOOD MOR MORNING.

MY NAME IS ERIC BURCH, AN ATTORNEY WITH BURCH BECKER.

I MAY BE THE MINORITY FIRM THAT RUSSELL REFERRED TO.

MINORITY AND WOMEN-OWNED FIRM. I AM REPRESENTING JM DAVIDSON REGARDING THIS ITEM. WHEN THIS RFP WAS ISSUED BY THE COUNTY IT IDENTIFIED FIVE CRITERIA THAT IT WOULD REVIEW.

ONE OF THOSE FIVE WAS COST. AND IT AWARDED A CERTAIN NUMBER OF POINTS FOR THE LOW COST. WELL, RUSSELL MARINE HAD THE LOW COST BID. IT WAS AWARDED FULL VALUE AS THE LOW BIDDER. THEN THE STAFF WENT AHEAD AND REVIEWED THE REST OF THE CRITERIA.

NOW DURING YOUR JANUARY 26 MEETING, THE STAFF INDICATED THAT ALL OF THE BIDDERS WERE TIED.

WHAT THAT SAYS IS THAT J. M. DAVIDSON EXCEEDED RUSSELL MARINE ON SOME OR ALL OF THE OTHER FOUR CRITERIA.

THE IMPORTANT THING ABOUT ALL OF THIS IS THE COST WAS CONSIDERED WHEN THE STAFF -- WHEN THE SELECTION COMMITTEE REVIEWED THE BIDS. SO COST AT THIS POINT IS REALLY OFF THE TABLE. IT HAS ALREADY BEEN INCLUDED.

BUT THEN THE STAFF CAME BACK AND THE SELECTION COMMITTEE CAME BACK AND SAID, WE DECIDED TO USE COST AS THE FACTOR IN DECIDING TO RECOMMEND RUSSELL MARINE.

THAT IS EFFECTIVELY DOUBLE COUNTING COST.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I GOT TO INTERRUPT -- I HEARD THIS TWICE. AND I -- THE -- I DON'T KNOW IF -- IF THE SCORING SHEETS ARE AVAILABLE TO BE RELEASED OR WHAT THE SITUATION IS. BECAUSE WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I HEARD THIS TWICE FROM YOU NOW, BUT THAT IS NOT CORRECT.

THE SCORING SHEET DID NOT REFLECT WHAT YOU INDICATED AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE IN THIS SPOT WE ARE IN.

MAYBE YOU NEED TO TALK TO MR. ROBINSON.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE OUT THERE, BUT THE MATRIX DID NOT SCORE YOUR CLIENT THE BEST ONE.

THAT IS PART OF WHERE WE ARE ON THIS.

AND WHY WE ARE WHERE WE ARE. SO I DON'T WANT THAT TO KEEP BEING SAID AND SOMEONE NOT SAY THAT.

AND I KNOW YOU PROBABLY SAID THAT BECAUSE YOU THINK THAT IS THE CASE. BUT YOU SAID THAT THE LAST MEETING AND SAYING IT AGAIN. AND MR. ROBINSON IS SHAKING HIS HEAD AND I AM SHAKING MY HEAD BECAUSE I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING THE LAST TIME, BUT THAT IS NOT CORRECT.

THE SCORING SHEET DID NOT HAVE YOUR CLIENT -- IT DID NOT HAVE IT ABOVE ALL ELSE. SO SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET WITH THESE PEOPLE AND CLEAR UP THIS. BECAUSE THEY ARE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IS DIFFERENT MAN IN WE ARE UNDER THE IMPRESSION. AS YOU KNOW, I MADE THAT ORIGINAL MOTION BECAUSE I WANTED TO DO THAT, BUT THEN,

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YOU KNOW, BASED ON LEGAL ADVICE THAT I AM NOT GOING TO GO INTO THERE, BUT YOU HAVE BAD INFORMATION THAT I THINK -- WE NEED TO LET THIS MAN HAVE THE INFORMATION SO HE CAN SHOW HIS CLIENT. THEY WEREN'T SCORED THE BEST.

THEY WERE SCORED THE LOWEST. AND THAT WAS PART OF IT.

SO IT WASN'T JUST COST. I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND AND I THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE THIS STINKS WE ARE IN THIS POSITION. BUT -- YOU -- SO GET HIM THE INFORMATION HE NEEDS SO HE DOESN'T KEEP THINKING THAT --

>>JUDGE CANALES: BEFORE HE DOES THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IT IS NOT FAIR FOR HIM COMING HERE --

>>JUDGE CANALES: BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO GAIN CONTROL HERE, IF YOU DON'T M MIND.

I WILL LIKE TO LET HIM FINISH. THAT IS A FAIR INTERJECTION.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MAY CHANGE HIS ENTIRE SPEECH.

>>JUDGE CANALES: LET ME LET HIM FINISH.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WAS GOING TO DISCUSS TO TALK TO MR. ROBINSON AND ONCE HE SEES WHAT HE SEES, IT MAY CHANGE HIS

ENTIRE SPEECH. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL DEFER TO OUR GUEST AND YOU CAN FINISH AND I RECOMMEND -- YOU ARE WELCOME TO LOOK AT THE INFORMATION AND THEN WOULD YOU LIKE TO -- WOULD YOU LIKE TO FINISH?

>> WELL, FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WE HAVE TRIED TO GET THE INFORMATION. SO WHAT WE ARE DOING IS TRYING TO FILL IN THE GAPS, BECAUSE WE DID HEAR SEVERAL TIMES THAT THE BIDS ALL SCORED EQUALLY. IT WAS SAID MULTIPLE WAYS.

I WENT BACK AND LISTENED TO THE VIDEO AGAIN AND SAID THE BIDS WERE ALL EQUAL. SO SOMETHING IN THERE THAT -- THAT IS NOT -- WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT INFORMATION.

I GUESS IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, JUDGE CANALES, THAT IF I HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT THE INFORMATION AND THEN RESPOND

AGAIN, THAT WILL BE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: OF COURSE.

WE CAN DO THAT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RIGHT

NOW. >>JUDGE CANALES: HOLD ON.

HOLD ON. I AM GOING TO LET HIM DO THAT.

HE WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO VISIT WITH YOU AND THEN HE CAN -- HE CAN COME BACK AND MICHAEL GO AHEAD.

>> I AM JUST GOING TO CLARIFY ONE THING FOR THE RECORD AND THAT IS WHILE WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF EVALUATING THIS OPPORTUNITY, I CANNOT RELEASE THOSE SCORING SHEETS OUT UNTIL WE HAVE COMPLETED AND AWARDED AND EXECUTED A CONTRACT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: SO IN THAT CASE, THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. I HAVE -- I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. MR. DAVIDSON SAID SOMETHING THAT WAS NEW TO ME. AND THE NEW TO ME, I NEED FOR YOU TO CONFIRM. AND THAT IS THAT HE REPRESENTED EARLIER IN COMMENT THAT YOUR BID REPRESENTED REMOVAL.

DEBRIS TO THE DESIRED REEF OR DESIRED LOCATION THAT WE HAD OFFSHORE. CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT YOUR BID REPRESENTED THE MOVEMENT OF DEBRIS TO OUR OFF-SITE REEF?

>> I CANNOT CONFIRM THAT SIMPLY BECAUSE I HAVE NOT READ THROUGH JM DAVIDSON'S COMPLETE BID. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT, I DO KNOW THAT MARSHAL DAVIDSON HAS SAID TO ME REPEATEDLY THAT IS PART OF THEIR PROPOSAL. I AM JUST SAYING I DIDN'T READ

IT, SO I DON'T KNOW. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS FAIR.

I HEARD THAT FROM HIM THIS MORNING AND THAT IS A -- THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT. SO I THINK WHAT WE WILL DO NOW IS, COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THIS INTO EXECUTIVE

SESSION AT THIS TIME. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DO HAVE A QUESTION -- I DON'T -- MICHAEL, I DON'T UNDERSTAND ONCE IT GETS -- THOSE SCORING SHEETS GET HANDED OUT TO US TO LOOK AT. AND WE DELIBERATE AND WE COME UP WITH A WAY TO -- TO DO WHAT WE DO, WHY IN THE WORLD THAT WOULD NOT BE PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE BY LAW -- NOT BY POLICY, BUT BY

LAW. >> THIS IS NOT A POLICY STATEMENT. WE ARE FOLLOWING THE LAW.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I NEED TO SEE THAT.

BECAUSE THAT MAKES IT REALLY HARD TO EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC AND PEOPLE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY ARE WHERE THEY ARE.

THERE IS NO LOGIC TO ME IN THIS AND I REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THAT TOO BEFORE WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> I WOULD ADVISE YOU SPEAK TO COUNTY ATTORNEY IN EXECUTIVE

SESSION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IS ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE WHERE YOU CAN EXPLAIN THE LAW ON THAT AND EXPLAIN WHY WE CAN'T REVEAL THAT.

>> AT THIS TIME, I CAN CITE THE SECTION AND I WILL EXPLAIN THAT IN MORE DETAIL IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AS TO WHAT IT MEANS, BUT WE ARE UNDER 22-69-155-D AND REFERS TO WHEN THE POINTS OR THE SYSTEM GETS RELEASED. IT IS VERY SPECIFIC.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS MORE IN EXECUTIVE

SESSION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT IS FAIR. IF YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOU PROVIDE THAT TO THEIR ATTORNEY BECAUSE IF YOU ARE TELLING ME I AM HAMSTRUNG WHAT I CAN RELEASE, THAT'S FINE.

BUT I AM NOT GOING TO BE HAMSTRUNG IN SAYING THAT -- THAT THE SCORES WERE DIFFERENT. AND THEY WERE -- I MEAN.

I AM SORRY IF THAT GETS ME IN TROUBLE.

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BECAUSE THAT IS NOT FAIR TO THEM.

THEY ARE TRYING TO GET INFORMATION.

TO WAIT UNTIL A CONTRACT IS SIGNED TO WAIT TO GET INFORMATION IS A LITTLE ROUGH. I DON'T HAVE IT ANYMORE SO I

CAN'T GIVE IT TO YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: HOW ABOUT IF WE DO THIS THEN. IT IS BEST WE TABLE ITEM -- WE POSTPONE AS THEY SAY THE ACTION ON ITEM I AND BRING THAT INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.

OKAY. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE, MR. BURCH.

WE ARE GOING TO ONCE AGAIN ASK YOUR PATIENCE.

WE WILL TAKE THAT ITEM INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> OKAY. WHEN YOU COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION -- WELL, SINCE I AM NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE EVALUATION DOCUMENTS TODAY, CAN I FOLLOW UP WITH A FEW EXTRA

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. >>JUDGE CANALES: ABSOLUTELY.

>> I GUESS THE KEY THING IS RIGHT NOW WHERE WE STAND AS FAR AS WHAT IS ON THE RECORD. BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE HEARD IS THE ONLY DEBATE ON THIS ITEM IS JANUARY 26.

AND THAT INFORMATION SAID ALL THE BIDS WERE EQUAL.

I UNDERSTAND THERE MAY BE SOME DIFFERENCE WHEN WE ACTUALLY SEE THOSE DOCUMENTS. THAT IS ON THE RECORD.

THAT ALL THE SCORES -- THE BIDDERS WERE EQUAL.

AND THEN THE DECISION WAS MADE TO AWARD IT TO THE LOW BIDDER.

AND THAT IS NOT THE STANDARD THAT MUST BE FOLLOWED FOR SUB CHAPTER D AWARD. SUB CHAPTER C, YOU EVALUATE ALL THE BIDDERS AND BY LAW IN THAT JANUARY 26 DISCUSSION, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT -- CAN WE EVEN AWARD IT TO ANYONE BUT THE LOW BIDDER. THE QUESTION I THINK WAS LEGALLY IS THERE A PROBLEM NOT GIVING IT -- IF THERE WAS SUB CHAPTER C PROPOSAL, THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM.

YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO GIVE IT TO THE LOW BIDDER, BUT IN SUB CHAPTER D, COST HAS ALREADY BEEN INCLUDED IN THE MIX.

SO WHAT IS ON THE RECORD IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO GIVE IT TO THE BIDDER WITH THE LOW COST WHICH IS NOT THE STANDARD.

THE STANDARD IS BEST VALUE FOR THE COUNTY AND THERE IS NOTHING ON THE RECORD SAYING THAT THE BEST VALUE IS TO GIVE IT TO RUSSELL MARINE. ONLY SAYING GIVE IT TO THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE LOW COST. THE OTHER THING IS SUPPOSEDLY A WRITTEN PROTEST FILED BY RUSSELL MARINE.

AND, AGAIN, WE ATTEMPTED TO FIND THAT.

CAN HE CAN'T FIND ANYTHING LIKE THAT WAS FILED.

THAT IS ANOTHER DOCUMENT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A COPY OF IF IT WAS ACTUALLY FILED. THE OTHER THING YOU NOTICE THAT WHEN RUSSELL MARINE MADE THEIR COMMENTS ON FEBRUARY 2, MOST OF THE COMMENTS WAS ABOUT THE LOCAL IMPACT.

I THINK THEY RECOGNIZE -- THEY SAID WE UNDERSTAND NOT A COMPETITIVE BID STANDARD. THE SUB CHAPTER D STANDARD.

BUT THE DISCUSSION INTENDED TO OFFSET YOUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BENEFIT TO THE LOCAL AREA. NOW YOU HEARD RUSSELL -- MARSHAL DAVIDSON SPEAK EARLIER TODAY AND IT IS VERY OVERWHELMING THE IMPACT THAT RUSSELL MARINE HAS ON THE LOCAL ECONOMY. SO WHEN YOU CONSIDER THIS, I ASK THAT YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT STANDARD THAT IS IN THE STATUTE. THE BEST VALUE AS YOU CONSIDER IN AWARD TODAY AND I THINK YOU WILL FIND THE BEST VALUE IS JM

[1. Receive a presentation from Melissa Sweeting, Executive Director, Coastal Bend Council on Alcohol & Drug Abuse on FY 2020-2021 activities; and, Authorize FY 2021-2022 contract.]

DAVIDSON. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I AM GOING TO MOVE ON AT THIS TIME. AND I SEE HER HERE.

WE HAVE A PRESENTATION IN REGULAR AGENDA ITEM MELISSA SWEETING, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE COASTAL BEND COUNCIL OF ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE.

THIS IS HAVING TO DO WITH, REALLY, ACTIVITIES OF LAST YEAR BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, COMMISSIONERS, WE NEED TO AUTHORIZE -- AN ACTION ITEM TO AUTHORIZE HER 2021-'22

CONTRACT. >> MELISSA SWEETING: GOOD

MORNING. >>JUDGE CANALES: GOOD MORNING.

>> MELISSA SWEETING: WE HAVE PACKETS PUT TOGETHER FOR YOU.

WILL IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR KALEN TO APPROACH.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WILL BE HAPPY TOO.

>> MELISSA SWEETING: MELISSA SWEETING, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE COUNCIL AND DRUG ABUSE. I AM ALSO A SOCIAL WORKER AND GREAT TO BE THERE FOR THAT. AND GIVE YOU BACKGROUND ON OUR AGENCY OF WHAT WE SHOULD DO. DRUG AND ALCOHOL ABUSES IN OUR NAME IS REALLY NOT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.

WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR OVER 60 YEARS.

WE ARE THE LONGEST STANDING NONPROFITED DRUG AND ALCOHOL TREATMENT FACILITY IN OUR AREA. WE CURRENTLY PROVIDE PREV PREVENTION, INTERVENTION, TREATMENT AND AFTER-CARE SERVICES. OUR PREVENTION TEAM OFFERS EDUCATION FOR ALL GRADE LEVELS. WE GO INTO SCHOOLS.

WE TEACH KIDS ABOUT -- NOT ONLY DRUG PREVENTION, BUT WE ALSO TEACH LIFE SKILLS. WE TALK ABOUT PEER PRESSURE, DECISION MAKING, BULLYING PREVENTION AND SO MUCH MORE.

WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR OVER 30 YEARS.

IN OUR INTERVENTION UMBRELLA, WE HAVE TWO AMAZING PROGRAMS. PROJECT LINK. PROJECT LINK WORKS WITH MOMS

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AND DADS. WE WORK WITH CPS PARENTS WHO MADE NEED ASSISTANCE TO BE BETTER MOMS AND DADS.

THROUGH THAT PROGRAM WE OFFER A LOT OF TRAINING, TODDLER, PARENTING, INFANT PARENTSING, ANGER MANAGEMENT.

WE HAVE A CLASS WHERE WE TEACH HOW TO PLAY WITH THEIR CHI CHILDREN. SOME PARENTS DON'T KNOW HOW TO SIT ON THE FLOOR AND JUST BE PRESENT FOR THEIR CHILDREN.

SO WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT. ABLE TO PROVIDE CASE MANA MANAGEMENT, TONS OF DIAPERS. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER OF CASES OF DIAPERS WE ORDERED ON A WEEKLY BASIS.

FORMULA, PACK AND PLAYS. WE CAN PROVIDE CLIMATE ASSISTANCE, UTILITY BILL, HELP WITH RENT.

WE CAN GO TO COURT WITH THEM AND WE CAN JUST BE FOR THEM.

COVID, WE HAD TO CHANGE TECHNIQUES A BIT AND CONTINUE TO OFFER SERVICES IN PERSONNEL. WE OFFER AFTERNOON CLASSES, EVENING CLASSES, WEEKEND CLASSES, ZOOM CLASSES, FACE TO FACE. WE GO TO HOMES.

WE DO A LOT OF HOME VISITS. WE DO SO MUCH MORE FOR PARENTS.

THE OTHER PROGRAM IS OUR OPERATION LINK PROGRAM.

AND WE WERE AWARDED THAT PROGRAM LAST YEAR.

THE PROGRAM IS DESIGNED TO HELP SERVICE MEMBERS, SERVICE MEMBERS AND THEIR FAMILIES. THE MAIN OBJECTIVE OF THAT PROGRAM IS TO REDUCE CHILD ABUSE, NEGLECT, DRUG ABUSE AND MISUSE IN OUR VETERAN FAMILIES I AM MOST EXCITED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO WORK WITH VETERANS FOR SO LONG.

SO BEING AWARDED THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN REALLY GREAT.

LIKE WITH PROJECT LINK, WE OFFER CLASSES.

THESE CLASSES ARE GEARED TOWARD MILITARY FAMILIES.

WE OFFER CLASSES IN FINANCE, BENEFITS AND LEARNING HOW TO NAVIGATE A MILITARY LIFE. WE ALSO OFFER FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR THAT PROGRAM AS WELL TO HELP WITH EWE TILTD BILLS, RENTAL ASSISTANCE, GROCERIES, EMERGENCY AID AND IG TO REMOVE THOSE BARRIERS. BECAUSE I AM A SORRYTELLER.

I HAVE A QUICK STORY ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.

RECENTLY I SAW A POST ON FACEBOOK OF A MOM REACHING OUT HELP BECAUSE SHE HAD LOST HER FIANCEE.

HE PASSED AWAY. A COUPLE MONTHS NOW.

SHE LOST HER JOB SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS TO TRAVEL BACK AND FORTH TO M. D. ANDERSON. AND HE LOST HIS BATTLE, SHE REALIZED THEY HAD A CHILD TOGETHER AND ALTHOUGH THEY WEREN'T MARRIED, THEY HAD THIS YOUNG CHILD AND HIS FAMILY WAS AGAINST HER RECEIVING ANY OF HER BENEFITS BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T MARRIED. SHE REACHED OUT ON FACEBOOK NOT KNOW KNOWING WHERE TO TURN BECAUSE SHE HAD THIS CHILD FELT LIKE DESERVED SOME KIND OF BENEFIT.

HE WAS MILITARY. I REACHED TOUTED HER ON FACEBOOK. SHE CALLED OUR AGENCY WITHIN MINUTES OF PROVIDING OUR PHONE NUMBER AND CONNECTED HER WITH A CASE MANAGER THAT IMMEDIATELY MET WITH HER AT HER HOME AND HELPED HER. SHE CONNECTED WITH A CO-WORKER WHO IS A VETERAN, WHO UNDERSTOOD -- KNEW HOW TO WORK THE -- THE -- I GUESS THE -- THE ROAD TO BEN FITS.

AND HELP BENEFIT FOR HER CHILD. AND HELPED BUILD HER RESUME BECAUSE HADN'T WORKED IN A WHILE.

BOUGHT HER INTERVIEW CLOTHES. SHE FELT GOOD WHEN SHE WAS GOING TO THE INTERVIEWS. PAID UTILITY BILLS FOR HER.

PROVIDED HER CHILD WITH SOME FUN STUFF AND HAPPY TO SAY THAT THAT MOM DID GET A JOB. AND SHE IS ON THE PATH FOR RECEIVING BENEFITS FOR HER LITTLE BOY.

SO IT IS STORIES LIKE THAT THAT MAKE MY HEART HAPPY.

I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU GUYS.

BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I LIKE TO TELL STORIES.

MOST OF OUR -- IF NOT -- I SAID MOST OF OUR EMPLOYEES IN OUR DEPARTMENT ARE VETERANS OR MILITARY SPOUSES.

THEY BELIEVE ABLE TO HELP THE CLIENT WHERE THEY ARE AT TO UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM AND HOW TO NAVIGATE THROUGH IT.

OUR TREATMENT PROGRAM WAS AROUND FOR OVER 60 YEARS AND PROVIDED MUCH-NEEDED SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY.

THE OPIOID ADDICTION WHILE IT IS GETTING A LITTLE BIT BETTER IS STILL NOT GOING AWAY ANY TIME SOON.

WE WORK WITH CHILDREN WITH -- WITH CLIENTS 13 AND UP.

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WE -- THE YOUNGEST CHILD WE EVER WORKED WITH WAS 12 GOING ON 13 WITH A HEROIN ADDICTION. I HAVE A 13-YEAR-OLD NEPHEW AND I CAN'T POSSIBLYAGE A CHILD THAT YOUNG KNOWING HOW TO USE A NEEDLE TO GET RELIEF AND TO GET THAT HIGH.

BUT WE DID WORKED WITH HIM. HE CAME TO CPS SAN ANTONIO AFTER THEY RECOMMENDED HIM FOR HEROIN USE.

HE IS OUR YOUNGEST CLIENT AND HE CONTINUE TO BE SOBER AND PART OF OUR RECOVERY PROGRAM FOR YOUTH.

WE ARE ABLE TO FOLLOW HIM AND KEEP HIM ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

WHEN A CLIENT COMES IN AND STARTS IN TREATMENT, THERE ARE IMMEDIATELY MATCHED WITH A RECOVERY COACH.

A RECOVERY COACH IS ALL IN ACTIVE RECOVERY THEMSELVES.

THAT USED TO BE PART OF THE GRANT THAT THEY BE REQUIRED TO BE IN RECOVERY. NO LONGER A REQUIREMENT, BUT IT IS AN AGENCY REQUIREMENT. WE REQUIRE OUR RECOVERY COACHES TO BE IN RECOVERY SO THOUGH KNOW WHAT IT RIGHT.

WE HAVE ONE FOR KIDS AND ONE FOR ADULTS.

THEY ARE COMPLETELY UP AND MOVING NOW.

WE OFFER VIRTUAL AND GROUP SESSIONS FOR THOSE HOT READY TO COME UP. WE HAVE A DROP-IN CENTER SO THE CLIENTS CAN COME IN ANY TIME. WE ALWAYS HAVE HOT COFFEE, VIDEO GAMES, PING-PONG, POOL TABLES, ALL KIND OF STUFF TO HELP THEM. COACHES TO JUST SIT AND RELAX AND TRY NOT TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH.

RECOVERY IS SO IMPORTANT TO HELPING PEOPLE STAY SOBER.

BUT I THINK THE MAIN BARRIER THAT WE AS AN AGENCY REMOVED FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS THAT ALL OF OUR SERVICES ARE FREE.

WE HAVE GRANTS THAT FUND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.

WE NEVER TURN ANYONE AWAY WHICH IS -- WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE VERY PROUD OF. AND YOUR SUPPORT OF OUR AGENCY HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL OF STAYING ALIVE DURING COVID.

COVID LET US VERY HARD. WE TRIED NOT TO LOSE VERY MANY.

WE DID LOSE -- WE HAD TO LOSE A FEW, BUT WE NEVER SHUT OUR DOORS, NOT ONE DAY. OUR COUNSELORS STAYED THERE.

WE PROVIDED SOME SERVICES VIRTUALLY.

SOME EMPLOYEES WERE ABLE TO WORK FROM HOME.

BUT THE MOST PART WE WERE THERE EVERY DAY.

WE ARE ESSENTIAL IN KEEPING -- KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE AND CONTINUING TO PROVIDE HOPE AND HEALING AND I AM VERY PROUD OF THAT AND PROUD THAT WE DID REMAIN OPEN AND NEVER STOPPED FOR ONE DAY. BUT THANK YOU, GUYS, SO MUCH.

YOUR SUPPORT HAS MEANT SO MUCH TO US.

JUST CALLING NUECES COUNTY A PARTNER OF OURS MEANS A LOT TO US. SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, JUST A QUESTION.

MAY I ASK. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T REMEMBER, WHAT DO WE

CURRENTLY GIVE? >> $50,000.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ITS CONTRACT IS FOR THE SAME AMOUNT.

>> WE USE THAT FOR OUR MATCH FUNDS.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I APPRECIATE THAT.

I KNOW HOW TOUGH THE YEAR HAS BEEN FOR THE COUNCIL THIS YEAR.

AND SO JUDGE, I WANTED -- ON A ONE-TIME BASIS I WANTED TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL $10,000 TO HELP GET THEM OVER THAT HUMP THAT I KNOW THEY HAVE. SO YOU CAN MAKE SURE -- I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO DO THAT IN A MOTION OR NEED TO DO IT OUT OF

MY PRECINCT FUNDS. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL JUST ADD -- ADD IT TO THE MOTION THAT THERE WILL BE A -- A BUDGET TRANSFER TO -- I MEAN THIS CONTRACT ALREADY HAS $50,000 AND WE WILL DO IT -- WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT AS A SUPPLE.

. HERE COMES TERESA TO TELL YOU

HOW TO DO IT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE RAISED AN AMOUNT LAST DECEMBER AND RAISED IT A LITTLE MORE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I JUST WANT -- I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE COUNCIL AND WITH MELISSA AND I KNOW HOW TOUGH IT HAS BEEN. I WANT TO DO IT AS A ONE-TIME.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL MAKE THE APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTATION, MELISSA, FOR THAT.

>> MELISSA SWEETING: THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHATEVER I GIVE THEM ALREADY, I WILL MATCH THE REST OF IT $10,000.

>> OH, MY GOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK THE COUNTY DOES IT.

THE COUNTY GIVES $50,000 OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

I AM JUST ADDING FROM MY PRECINCT FUNDS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD

OUT OF YOUR PRECINCT FUNDS. >>JUDGE CANALES: TERESA, CAN

YOU MAKE THAT NOTE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HOW

MUCH? >>JUDGE CANALES: AS THEY SAID

WELL-DONE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I ALWAYS WORKED WITH THE COUNCIL AND YOU DO A GREAT JOB.

BY TO YOUR MEETINGS AND I HEAR THE STORIES.

I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOREVER. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU

AND YOUR STAFF. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THIS MEANS SO MUCH TO ME. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU

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DEAL WITH THOSE ISSUES EVERY SINGLE DAY LIKE THE SOCIAL WORKERS. THEY REALLY HAVE TO BE SPECIAL

PEOPLE. >> ITCH AN AMAZING TEAM.

AMAZING. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: MELISSA, YOU -- ARE YOU CUED IN TO THE SUS.

TEXAS SUS SYMPOSIUM. >> WE ACTUALLY ARE BOTH GOING.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I WANT TO AS IT GETS CLOSER ON THE 16TH, WE WILL BE MAKING THOSE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND I WANT TO LET THE COMMISSIONER KNOW WITH EN THE STATEWIDE SUBSTANCE ABUSE SYMPOSIUM COMES INCORPORATING ALL THE NUECES COUNTY PARTNERS.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: JU JUDGE, WANT TO CONTRIBUTE AS

WELL, $10,000. >>JUDGE CANALES: MELISSA, YOU

HAVE AN ADDITIONAL $10,000. >> WOW.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: ADDITIONAL 30,000.

>> BOB: WE CAN DO IT FOR DOWNTOWN, WE CAN DO THAT FOR

YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: ON TOP OF

THAT. >> I CAN'T THANK YOU GUYS

ENOUGH. >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ OPINION MELISSA, AS THEY SAY I NEED TO DO SOMETHING WONDERFUL WHICH IS TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT AND I HAVE GOT A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND?

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SECOND.

>>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION AND A SECOND.

AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AND, AGAIN, WE WILL WORK WITH YOU ON THE DETAILS TO ADD THESE ADDITIONAL FUNDS FROM THESE PRECINCTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO

YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ONE JUDGE MYSTERY IS A. >> $10,000 FOR HERNANDEZ AND

GONZALEZ. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: TERESA,

IF I HAVE ENOUGH. >>JUDGE CANALES: MARIA, PRECINCT FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE AND TERESA HELPS KEEP THE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS AVAILABLE IN THE PRECINCT FUNDS.

LET US GET YOU THE PERFECT NUMBER AND DON'T CRY ON US, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO CRY T TOO.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: DO I NEED TO ADD THAT AS AN

AMENDMENT. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL MAKE IT ALL. WHEN IT COMES TO ACTUAL PAYMENT -- MAYBE WE WILL BRING YOU BACK AND -- LOOK, GOOD PEOPLE WHO DO GOOD THINGS SHOULD BE DESERVING OF THESE TYPES OF ACTIONS.

SO I AM GLAD THAT YOU CAME TODAY, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. WE WILL GET THE RIGHT AMOUNTS, COMMISSIONER, AFTER -- WE WILL GET THE RIGHT AMOUNT AND BRING IT BACK. SORT OF AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT.

AFTER TERESA CHECKS COMMISSIONER MAREZ'S

[2. Receive presentation on Bob Hall Pier Design Feedback Study; receive final study.]

AVAILABILITY. OKAY.

AT THIS POINT, MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 2.

ANOTHER PRESENTATION AND THIS IS FOR BOB HALL PIER DESIGN FEEDBACK STUDY. TODAY COMMISSIONERS YOU WILL RECEIVE THE FINAL STUDY AND WE WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT IT. TO DO THAT WE HAVE OUR EXPERTS WITH US, MR. WILL PETTIS WHOSE FIRM PETTIS ADVERTISING WAS THE RESPONSIBLE COORDINATOR FOR THIS AWESOME, AWESOME SURVEY.

JOINING ONLINE VIRTUAL, CONNIE, MAKE SURE SHE HAS THE ABILITY

-- IS DEB PROST. >> SHE IS SHARING HER SCREEN.

>> GOOD MORNING. CAN YOU HEAR ME, JUDGE?

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE CAN, WE CAN.

I AM GOING TO -- HOLD ON JUST ONE SECOND WHILE WE MAKE SOME ADJUSTSMENTS. AND WILL IS AT THE PODIUM AND INTRODUCE YOU AND SET THE TABLE SO YOU CAN RUN US THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION. WILL?

>> YES, GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS WILL PETTIS.

I WAS HIRED FOR THE TOWN HALL AND SURVEY MEETINGS FOR THE NEW BOB HALL PIER. WE HAD OUR FIRST TOWN HALL MEETINGS JULY 2021. BEFORE THOSE TOWN HALLS WE RELEASED A SURVEY WITH OVER 1600 PARTICIPANTS.

OPINIONS AND CONCERNS WERE GIVEN TO JACOBS ENGINEERING WHO USED THEM ONCE IN CONSIDERATION OF THEIR DESIGNS.

RECENTLY, WE HAD OUR SECOND SET OF TOWN HALLS IN THE END OF JANUARY 2022 THAT HAD OPTIONS FOR IN PERSON AND VIRTUAL.

RENDERING S AND DRAWING FOR THE PROPOSED NEW PEER WERE PRESENTED. A SURVEY WAS RELEASED WHICH 6 69D PEOPLE PARTICIPATED TO GIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.

THAT LEETS US TO THIS MOMENT WITH MY PART ANY DEB PROST WHO IS HERE VIRTUALLY WILL WALK US THROUGH THE RESULTS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I APPRECIATE IT.

DEB, WE SEE YOUR SLIDE DECK AND FIRST SLIDE ON ALL OUR SCREENS.

WHENEVER YOU ARE READY, WE ARE TOO.

>> PERFECT. I AM DELIGHTED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY BECAUSE MY BUSINESS.

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I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, BEING ABLE TO GO OUT INTO COMMUNITIES AND TALK TO STAKEHOLDERS AND CONSUMERS TO BE ABLE TO GET BACK THIS FEEDBACK TO GIVE TO MY CHRIS THE FACT THAT WE HAD SUCH A LARGE SPECTRUM OF FEEDBACK, NOT JUST FROM NUECES COUNTY, CORPUS CHRISTI, PADRE ISLAND, BUT OUTSIDE OF THE AREA IS JUST HEARTWARMING. SO BEFORE I GET STARTED.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COMMISSIONERS COURT AND IN PARTICULAR, COMMISSIONER BRETT CHESNEY AND YOU JUDGE CANALES AND ALL THE CITY STAFF THAT WENT INTO HELPING US AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CONDUCT THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS AND SEND OUT IN SURVEY LINK TO THE STAKEHOLDERS WITHOUT YOUR HELP. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

I WILL JUST WALK THROUGH THIS. I WON'T SPEND MUCH TIME ON THIS PAGE BECAUSE WILL KIND OF WENT OVER IT.

THE TWO PHASE AS THAT WE HAD BACK IN THE SUMMER TO GET TO THE INITIAL INPUT, TWO TOWN HALLS, ALSO 22 ONE-ON-ONE SURVEYS AS WELL AS THIS -- ALMOST 1700 CONSUMER RESPONSE.

AND THEN THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A LULL WHILE THE DESIGN TEAM WAS DESIGNING. AND THEN ONCE WE GOT THOSE DESIGNS, THAT IS WHEN WE WENT INTO THIS PHASE TWO, WHICH WERE TWO MORE TOWN HALLS AS WELL AS ANOTHER ONLINE SURVEY.

THE TOWN HALLS WERE VERY WELL ATTENDED.

ABOUT 200 OR SO THERE. THE SECOND VAR SAY AS WILL MENTIONED 670 RESPONSES. THESE ARE ALL HIGHLY STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT SAMPLE SIZES.

THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE RENDERS THAT WERE SHOWN.

A LITTLE BIT SMALL ON THIS D DECK.

AND IN THE TOWN HALLS, THEY WERE THREE FEET BY SIX FEET.

VERY LARGE. WE HAVE PICTURES OF SOME CONSUMERS GOING AROUND AND LOOKING AT THEM AND BEING ABLE TO REFER TO THEM THIS IS A ZOOM UP WITH CABLES ON IT.

AND THIS WAS SHOWN IN THE SURVEY ITSELF AS WELL.

IF IT DID NOT ATTEND TOWN HALL, THESE WERE IN THE SURVEY LINK.

WE ALSO WENT OVER IN THE SU SURVEY, THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE OLD PIER AND THE NEW PIER.

THE WIDTH GOING FROM 15 AND A HALF TO 20.

THE FACT THERE WAS NO PUBLIC EVENT SPACE ON THE OLD PIER AND DESIGNED INTO THE NEW PIER. A RESTAURANT ON THE PIER BUT EXPANDED AND ROTATED TO MORE OCEAN VIEWS.

NO COVERED EVENT DECK. AND NOW THERE IS DESIGNED IN A DECK WITH VIEWS TO THE OCEAN. SMALL AMOUNT OF CONCESSIONS IN RETAIL AND GREATLY EXPANDED IN THESE DESIGNS.

A SMALL OUTDOOR SPACE FOR DINING AND THAT IS GREATLY -- NO SHADE STRUCTURE OR THE DESIGN SHOWED SEVERAL.

PUBLIC REST ROOMS WERE IN THE RESTAURANT AND TWO SETS SEPARATE FROM THE RESTAURANT AS WELL AS THOSE THAT ARE IN THE RESTAURANT. THERE WAS ONLY ONE T AT THE END OF THE PIER. TWO MIDSPAN ANGULAR T AND A GREATLY LARGER ANGULAR T AT THE VERY END.

THE NOAA EQUIPMENT WAS PRESENT IN THE PREVIOUS PIER, BUT IT IS BEING MODERNIZED AND EXPANDED IN THE NEW PIER.

NO PUBLIC MESSAGE FOR SAFETY, RIPSIDE THAT KIND OF THING BEFORE. AND IT IS PLANNED IN NOW.

LIGHTNING THAT WILL INCLUDE SAFETY LIGHTNING AS WELL AS FISH LIGHTING. AND BEFORE I GET INTO THE RESULTS OF THIS PARTICULAR SURVEY, I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO GO BACK TO ONE SLIDE FROM THE FIRST SURVEY WITH THE 1700 CONSTITUENTS. THIS PIER IS USED BY EVERYBODY FOR MULTIPLE THING. THE 1700 FOLKS GOT TO SAY HOW MANY THINGS THEY DID. THEY WOULD JUST CLICK AND WRITE IN. SO WE HAD TO DO AN AVERAGE OF 2.2 THINGS ON THE PIER. THEY WALK ON IT.

THEY -- JUST FOR THE AM BEE JAINS OF IT AND ENJOY THE BREEZES AND THE VIEWS AND THE STARGAZING AND THE SUNSETS AND WATCHING THE SURFERS AND TALKING TO THE FISHERMAN.

THEY EAT AT THE REGS RANT. HALF -- RESTAURANT.

HALF, HALF FISH. THOSE THREE ARE PRETTY MUCH ENJOYING THE AM BEE ADVANCE, FISHING, EATING.

THEY ARE ALL EQUAL IN USE OF THIS PIER.

ANOTHER 40% ENJOY THE BAR. 37% SAY I GO TO SIDESEE AND

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PEOPLE WATCH. 31% SPECIFICALLY WATCH FOR THE SURFERS AND THE SURF. 13% SHOP.

AND 10% SAY THEY FISH SPECIFICALLY FROM SHORE LOTS OF USES FOR THE PIER AND THEY CAN'T WAIT TO SEE IT COME BACK UP. WHAT WE DID WAS SHOW YOU RE RENDERINGS I SHOWED YOU INITIALLY AND HAD THE CONSUMER RATE ON A FIVE-POINT STEAL FROM VERY APPEALING DOWN TO NOT APPEALING AT ALL. THE FIVE POINTS, VERY SOMEWHAT NEUTRAL, TO NOT AT ALL ON EACH ONE OF THESE PARTICULAR DESIGNS OF THE PIER. SO YOU CAN SEE THE SCORES DOWN HERE. 86 AND THE BLUE BAR.

SO YOU CAN SEE HOW LARGE THESE BLUE BARS ARE AND THE SOMEWHAT APPEALING IS THE RED BAR AND GOES DOWN TO THE OTHER COLORS IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP BOX, SCORES RANGE FROM 68 TO 82.

AND IF YOU ADD IN THE VERY AND SOMEWHAT APPEALING BOXES, RANGE IN THE HIGH 80S AND LOW 90S. RANGE FROM 84 WAS THE LOWEST BUT MOST WERE IN THE 7 UP TO THE 93 RANGE WHAT THIS IS TELLING ME, WHEN PEOPLE SAY 8 86%.

YES, WE LOVE THIS. VERY APPEALING.

THERE IS AN EMOTION ON THAT. AND THE PIER -- HOW IT IS SET UP, NUMBER ONE, RELATES TO THE LEGEND BELOW.

NUMBER 1 PIER WIDTH. YOU NEVER ARE GOING TO PLEASE EVERYBODY AND 2% OR 1% NOT AT ALL APPEALING AN A FEW PEOPLE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE AN OPINION. BUT THE FACT THAT THIS SCALE -- YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SIZE OF THE BLUE AND RED BARS THEY REALLY LIKED THESE DESIGNS. THE EXPANDED ANGULAR T IS 82 PLUS 10 OVER NINE OUT OF TEN SAYING THEY FIND THIS APPEALING OR VERY APPEALING. THE MODERNIZED AND NOAA EQUIPMENT WAS 77 PLUS 10. ADD THOSE TWO TOGETHER THAT IS 87 MOST OF THE REST FEDERAL IN THE CATEGORY.

SEATING, 75, VERY APPEALING PLUS ANOTHER 12.

THAT IS 87. ALMOST NINE AND TEN.

THE NIGHT RENDERING THAT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER ITEM NUMBER 5 HERE WAS 73% ON THE TOP BOX PLUS 15.

SO THAT'S 88, ALMOST 9 OUT OF 10.

THE OVERALL PIER LAYOUT, NUMBER 8.

3 THE TWO MID SPAN ANGULAR TS.

87. FISH CLEARING STATION CAME OUT AT 84 WITH THE TWO ADDED TOGETHER AND THE OF THE PIER DESIGN EXPANDED ANGULAR STRUCTURE AND A VERY LARGE SHADE STRUCTURE CAME OUT AT 9 90%.

SO THAT WAS THE APPEALS OF THE OVERALL DESIGNS AND DRILLED DOWN INTO THAT ENTRANCE AREA AND I SHOWED YOU THE LARGE SCHEMATIC THAT WAS KIND OF LABELED.

AND YOU CAN SEE TO NO GREAT SURPRISE WHAT WAS LIKE THE HIGHEST THE TWO SETS OF PUBLIC REST ROOMS. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HEARD IN THE ORIGINAL STUDY ABOUT THE AMENITIES THAT WERE WANTED. 96% FOUND THAT APPEALING.

A YOU FEW PEOPLE IN THE COMMENTS WERE INTERESTED IN HAVING MORE BATHROOMS, BUT YOU CAN SEE DOWN INTO THE 2% TO 1%.

EXPANDED OUTDOOR SEATING AREA WHEN YOU LOOK HERE AT NUMBER TWO THAT IS CLOSE TO NINE OUT OF TEN FINDING IT APPEALING.

SHADE STRUCTURE, 77 PLUS 12. SO THAT IS 89.

THE EXPANDED AND ROTATING RESTAURANT, ITEM NUMBER 4.

77 PLUS 11. SO THAT IS 88.

ALMOST NINE OUT OF TEN SECOND STORY EVENT DECK.

ITEM NUMBER 5. AGAIN, 85% WHEN YOU ADD THE TWO. RETAIL BUILDING, 73 PLUS 16.

ALL OF THESE AS YOU CAN SEE ARE UP INTO THOSE 80S AND EVEN 90S.

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OVERALL PIER ENTRANCE, SIGNAGE, SPACE, SHADE, SEATING, SIMILAR SCORE AND PUBLIC EVENTS SPACE AS WELL.

SO THE DESIGNS THAT WERE SHOWN WERE VIEWED TO BE APPEALING TO VERY APPEALING. WE GAVE THE CONSUMERS SEVERAL OPTIONS ON, FOR EXAMPLE, THE INTEREST SIGNAGE.

WE SHOWED AN OPTION A HERE WITH MORE OF A OBELISK.

AND OPTION 3, WITH MORE OF AN OVERHEAD, TRADITIONAL SIGN.

AND OPTION C, WHICH IS MORE OF A NAUTICAL KIND OF THEME TO IT.

THE SURVEY WAS SET UP TO SEE -- WHICH DO YOU REFER.

HIGHEST. THE SECOND HIGHEST AND THE THIRD. SO IF YOU GO TO THE PIE CHART, FOCUS ON THE PURPLE. B, WHICH IS THE OVERHEAD SIGN WAS THE HIGHEST AT 43% OF THE MOST PREFERRED.

THE OWE OWE BE RISK. AND THE SLICE OF THE PIE.

AND TO THE RIGHT, I PUT THE TOP TWO PREFERENCES.

43 FROM THE LAST RANKED THE HIGHEST AND RANKED SECOND.

THE HIGHEST AND SECOND HIGHEST COMES OUT TO 82%.

EIGHT OUT OF TEN. A LITTLE AFTER EIGHT OUT OF TEN FROM THE 28, ON THE NAUTICAL EVEN THRONE THEY WERE SIMILAR 8 AND C WAS SIMILAR ON THE 28 AND 29.

THE NAUTICAL. THE WINNER FROM THE CONSUMER PERSPECTIVE IS GOING WITH SOMETHING THAT IS IN THIS LI LIGHT, AN OVERHEAD DESIGN. LOOKED AT THE SHADE ITEM.

3 WAS SHOWN WELL. F WAS THE TRELLIS DESIGN.

THE G IS MORE OF AN OVERHEAD DESIGN.

AND H IS A CANTILEVER. IF YOU GO TO THE PURPLE SLICE.

THE LARGEST ONE. THE CANTILEVER H, 6 AND 10 BASICALLY PREFERRED THAT ONE. YELLOW SLIDE IS 24% PREFERRED THE OVERHEAD AND THE TRELLIS WHICH LET'S LIGHT THROUGH AND SUN THROUGH WAS THE LEAST AT 18.

WHEN YOU ADD IN THE SECOND RESPONSE ANOTHER 18% ON COULDN'T LEVER SO THAT THREE OUT OF FOUR REFERRED THE CANTILEVER. NOW THE HAD 60% ON SECOND PREFERRED AND 84. AND YOU CAN SAY THAT IS HIGHER BUT NOT REALLY A 58 VERSUS THE 24 WHICH IS DOUBLE THAN WAS LIKED BEST. THE CANTILEVER DESIGN WAS THE WINNER ON THE SHADE OPTIONS. ON THE SEATING OPTION A RECTANGULAR CEMENT STRUCTURE. OPTION R IS A COMBINATION WOOD CEMENT. AND S HAD MORE -- CEMENT WITH ANGULAR STYLES. IF YOU GO TO THE MOST PREF PREFERRED, AND CHECK THE PU PURPLE, SLICE, IT IS 62%.

LIKE THIS KIND OF WOOD, CEMENT FOUNDATION.

21% ON THE RECTANGULAR AND 17% ON THE ANGULAR.

AND WHEN YOU ADD IN THE SECOND MOST PREFERRED.

YOU ADD IN THE 62 WITH THE 18. EIGHT OUT OF TEN PREFERRED THE WOOD. ON THE RECTANGULAR ADDED ANOTHER 50% ON THE SECOND PREFERRED AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 62 AND 20 IS THREE TIMES GREATER LIKING THE WOOD CEMENT ON THAT PASSION MOST PREFERRED SCORE.

ANGULAR WAS 50%. SO THEN WE GOT INTO AN O OPEN-ENDED QUESTION. JUST TELL US ANY COMMENTS YOU WANT. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT THESE DESIGNS, ABOUT THE PIER. ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE.

I DIVIDED THESE INTO KIND OFS I HAVE IT COMMENTS, A GROUP OF CONCERNS AND NEGATIVE. A FEW SUGGESTIONS AS WELL.

BY IN LARGE, THE HIGHEST RESPONSE WAS ABOUT 12% WERE SAYING THAT THEY LOVE IT AN A THOUGHTFUL DESIGN AND IT WAS

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GREAT. SOME PEOPLE WROTE PARAGRAPHS BECAUSE THE FULL VERBATIMS IN THE REPORT AND SOME PEOPLE GOT VERY VERBOSE AND I PRINTED EVERYTHING THAT CAME IN AND THE TOWN HALLS AND AS WELL AS IN THE SURVEY.

ANOTHER 5% SAID LET'S GO. LET'S GET DONE.

ANOTHER 24% SAY HAVING ALL THIS SHADE IS GREAT.

THAT IS GOOD. ANOTHER 4% IS SAYING THE LOWER COST OPTIONS ARE OKAY BECAUSE IN THE TOWN HALLS A LOT OF DISCUSSION CAME OUT, LIKE, A PARKING LOT RIGHT ON THE BEACH VERSUS ONE BEING BUILT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DUNES WITH THE FLYOVER AND SOME OF THE AMOUNTS WERE DISCUSSED IN THE TOWN HALLS. A LOT OF PEOPLE PICKED UP AS WE FILLED UP THE SURVEY. AND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS DON'T SPEND THE EXTRA MONEY ON THE FLYOVER TO PARK BEHIND THE DUNES. GO WITH THE BEACH PARKING.

THEY MISSED THE RESTAURANT AND WANT AT THAT BACK.

3% AND SEATING AND FURNITURE IS GOOD.

3% SAY BASICALLY KEEP IT APPEAR MAINLY FOR THE PIER MAINLY FOR FISHING. PARK ON THE BEACH VERSUS BEHIND THE DUNES WITH THE LOW COST. AND I SEPARATED THEM BECAUSE ONE WAS REFERENCING COST AND THE OTHER WAS REPRESENTING A LOCATION. RELAX, SIGHT SEEING.

IT WAS GOOD. ALSO SOME OTHER FEWER COMMENTS OF IT BEING GOOD. THEY LIKED THE WEB SITE, THE FUTURE BOB HALL PIER WEB SITE AND THE EXPANDED BAIT AND TACKLE SHOP. FOR THE CONCERNS, THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS MAINTENANCE AND CAME UP IN THE TOWN HALLS AS WELL, WITH THE BIRDS, WELL WIND, WITH THE SALT, LOTS OF -- -- LOTS OF COMMENTS ABOUT WHATEVER IT BUILT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF TOUGH WEATHER HERE AND A LOT OF THINGS TO CONTEND WITH, SO THE MAINTENANCE, A HUGE CONCERN ABOUT THAT. AND SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE LIKE KEEP IT SIMPLE. WE ARE NOT LIKE NEW JERSEY OR GALVESTON. DON'T OVERDO IT MAKE IT NICE.

ICONIC. KEEP IT SIMPLE.

MAKE SURE IT IS HURRICANE PR PROOF.

WE DON'T WANT TO BUILD IT AGAIN.

ABOUT 5% COMMENTS LIKE THAT. SOME PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, FELT THERE SHOULDN'T BE EVENTS ON THE PIER.

THEY WANT THE PIER TO BE THE PIER AND THE RESTAURANT E ELSEWHERE NOT ON THE PIER. THAT WAS ONLY 4%.

THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SHADE STRUCTURES DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH CASTING AT 4%. SOME PEOPLE, ALMOST 3%, TALKED ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE BENCHES AND STUFF ARE KIND OF HOMELESS PROOF WITH BARS AND STUFF ON THEM SO THAT PEOPLE CAN'T LAY DOWN. JUST TO CONTROL THAT.

AGAIN NO DUNE PARKING. USE A SHUTTLE BUS.

SOME PEOPLE, 1.6% SAY DON'T HAVE FISH CLEANING ON THE PIER BECAUSE OF THE ODOR AND IT IS DIRTY AND THE DEBRIS THAT HAS TO GO INTO THE WATER. SOME FELT THE PLAZA WAS A LITTLE LARGE AND NO BENCHES IN THE FISHING AREA.

AND A FEW OTHER MINOR COMMENTS. THEN ON THE SUGGESTIONS, 1% TO 2%. BUT MORE SAFETY FEATURES LIKE LIFEGUARD STATIONS. WE REALLY DIDN'T DISCUSS ALL THAT BECAUSE IN THE SURVEY, YOU KNOW YOU ALL -- NOT REALLY A DESIGN FEATURE IN TERMS OF THESE TYPE OF SHADE STRUCTURES AND AMENITIES. SAFETY IS SAFETY.

AND THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SAFETY WILL BE THERE.

AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, REST ROOMS IN THE MIDDLE.

SOME CONVERSATION WHY ISN'T IT FREE ADMISSION ON THE PIER.

FREE IN FLORIDA, ALABAMA, CALIFORNIA.

WHY DO WE HAVE TO CHARGE TO GO ON THE PIER.

IT IS A COMMUNITY ASSET. PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO HAVE ENOUGH TRASH RECEPTACLES AND MOVE REGULARLY SO TRASH DOESN'T GO IN THE OCEAN AND NOT TO TOPPLING OUT ON TOP OF THE RECEPTACLE. SOME PEOPLE WANTED MORE SHOPS, COFFEE SHOP, ICE CREAM SHOP. PIER CANS.

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SOME SAY MAKE IT LONGER BASED ON THE ARMY CORP OF ENGINEERS THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE. SOME SAY ONE BUMP OUT VERSUS TWO CHARGE PER PERSON WEATHER PER POLE.

AND LET ME READ OFF SOME OF THE VERBATIMS FOR YOU.

LOOKS GREAT. LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FINISHED PRODUCT. ANY PLANS TO ADDRESS THE WIND COMING OFF THE GULF AND PROXIMATE IMENTD TO OUTDOOR DINING. WIND BLOCKS.

CURRENT DESIGN LOOK WIND WILL GO THROUGH THE SEATING WITH NO BLOCK FOR DINERS. ADDING SHADE WHEREVER POSSIBLE IS A GREAT IDEA. THAT INFLUENCED MY DECISION FOR THE SHADE STRUCTURE PREFERENCE. PLEASE ADD IN AS MUCH SHADE AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS GREAT PIER FOR OUR BEACH. IT LOOKS GREAT.

I HAVE BEEN COMING TO THIS ATMOSPHERE SINCE I WAS A CHILD.

WE LIVE IN ATASCTIA TEXAS AND HOPING TO HAVE THE PIER REPAIRED SOON. I HOPE THE BATHROOMS WILL BE OPEN AROUND THE CLOCK AND ALSO SHOULD HAVE WEB CAM.

I LOVE THE OVERALL DESIGN AND STARGAZING IS THE BEST REASON.

THE AMOUNT OF AMBIENT LIGHT THAT THE ARTIST RENDERING SHOWS MIGHT HURT THAT. BE AWARE OF IT.

I THINK THE PIER SHOULD BE BUILT WITH EXPANSION FOR RE RETAIL. HOSTS FARMER'S MARKET AND ADDITIONAL SPOTS. AND I LIKE IT.

I LOVE IT. I REALLY LOVE IT.

WE NEED SOMETHING THERE FAST. I MISSED THE RESTAURANT.

GET IT DONE! GET IT STARTED NOW.

GREAT JOB. I AM EXCITED.

GREAT PLAN. LOOKING FORWARD TO THE END RESULT. FACILITIES ARE NICE AND.

THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE FLAVOR. AND PROBABLY 50 PAGES OF COMMENTS THAT ARE IN THE RE REPORT.

THIS IS JUST A WORD CLOUD OF ALL OF THOSE VERBATIMS THAT OUR SOFTWARE COUNTS UP ALL THE WORDS AND PUTS IT IN HERE.

SEATING, EVENT, FISHING IT, DESIGN.

KIND OF REFLECTS THE GRAPHS THAT I SHOWED AS WELL AS WHAT I READ. SO THAT'S IT, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE. THIS IS THE REPORT.

THESE ARE THE FEEDBACK FROM YOUR STAKEHOLDERS.

WOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >>JUDGE CANALES: LET ME THROW

THAT OUT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND REALLY JUST TO THANK WILL AND DEB FOR THIS GREAT WORK. QUITE HONESTLY I THINK THEY KURTED MORE THAN THEY BARGAIN THE FOR AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT TOO. THEY DID A LOT OF WORK, EXTRA WORK. A LOT OF EXTRA ACTIVITY BECAUSE WE REALLY AS A COURT WERE INTERESTED IN GETTING PUBLIC INPUT AND WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE PEOPLE THOUGHT.

I THINK WE CAPTURED IT AND HAVE -- YOU ALL HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF FACILITATING THIS WHOLE PROCESS I COULDN'T BE HAPPIER WITH THE OUTCOMES. NOBODY UP HERE TRIED TO CONTROL THE OUTCOMES. WE LET WILL AND DEB DO THEIR THINGS. JUDGE AND I HAD IMPACT ON DIFFERENT PARTS OF IT AND GAVE YOU ALL THE FREEDOM TO BE THE PROFESSIONALS TO DO THIS THE WAY YOU WANTED TO DO IT AND THE BEST OUTCOMES AND MOST HONEST OUTCOMES.

NOT THE BEST. WE HAVE DONE THAT.

THE COURT HAS A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

WE CAN'T DO EVERY SOLITARY THING THAT EVERYBODY CAME UP WITH, BUT I THINK WE WILL MAKE THIS A FABULOUS PROJECT AND START TIGHTENING THIS UP AND TALKING OF THE REAL COSTS.

I THINK IT WILL BE SUPER COOL. KIND OF A GOOFY WORD, BUT I THINK THIS WILL BE A COOL PROJECT AND IT IS GOING TO BE ICONIC AND GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY CAN BE REALLY PROUD OF. SO, I AM -- I READ ALL THIS.

I EVEN READ MOST OF THE VERBATIMS QUITE HONESTLY AND YOU HAVE GIVEN US A LOT TO DIGEST.

MY THANKS. YOU GOT PAID TO DO A JOB.

SOMETIMES THEY DO A JOB THEY ARE PAID FOR AND DON'T DO A GOOD JOB. WHEN YOU HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB, WE NEED YOU NEED TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED AND WE GOT OUR MONEY'S WORTH AND THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY AND THE COURT.

WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT. IT WAS A LOT OF FUN TO WORK ON THIS PROJECT. IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING TO GET TO TALK TO Y'ALL'S CONSTITUENTS ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND HOW PASSIONATE THEY ARE AND HOW MUCH THEY WANT THIS PIER AND WHAT THEY SEE AND ENVISION FOR IT.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

DEB AND I BOTH. GREAT WORKING WITH EVERYONE, YOU, JUDGE, BRENT AND EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WANT TO THROW OUT HOW IMPORTANT THESE SURVEYS ARE.

WE HAVE REALLY NOW UNDERSTOOD THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE DET DETAILS, YOU HAVE GIVEN US A BLUEPRINT FOR HOW TO ADDRESS

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SOME OF THOSE REALLY INTERESTING NUANCES LIKE FISHERMEN. SHADE IS AMAZING, BUT IF YOU PUT IT IN THE WRONG PLACE, IT CAN AFFECT CASTING.

SAME THING BAIT STANDS, IT CAN AFFECT YOUR EXPERIENCE IF IT IS IN THE WRONG SPOT. BUT WE REAFFIRMED SOMETHING THAT WE KNEW AND NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS A JUS JUSTIFIABLE CASE FOR INVESTMENT LIKE THE BATHROOMS, LIKE THE WIDTH OF THE PIER AND VERY IMPORTANT GEE METRIC MID ANGULAR STRUCTURE AT THE END. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS WONDERFUL FOR ME IS TO SEE THE NOAA WEATHER STATION SO WIDELY SUPPORTED. BECAUSE WE THINK WE CAN GRANT OUR WAY, YOU KNOW, TO THAT EQUIPMENT.

HE KNOW THAT ONE OF THE EXTRAS YOU DID.

YOU ATTENDED EVERY SINGLE BOB HALL PIER COMMITTEE MEETING.

IT WAS FROM THOSE UNIQUE STAKEHOLDERS THAT A LOT OF THE STEEL, IF YOU WILL, OF THE SURVEY AND TOWN HALLS AND SOME OF THE IMPORTANT PIECES OF THE MESSAGING INCLUDING THE NOW ICONIC LOGO. AND THAT WAS ON BILLBOARDS AND REALLY CONCEIVED. YOU DID GO ABOVE AND BEYOND AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY IS INCREDIBLY APPRECIATIVE TO OUR COURT, BUT A REFLECTION OF Y'ALL'S GOOD WORK.

BUT I REALLY THINK THAT WE NOW HAVE THE ABILITY BASED ON THIS SURVEY TO MAKE GREAT DECISIONS. I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT.

MY TAKEAWAY AND DOUBLE CHECK IT WITH YOU AND DEB, THAT WE GOT OVERWHELMING SUPPORT TO BUILD THIS PIER BETTER.

WE GOT OVERWHELMING SUPPORT THAT THE WIDTH IS SUPER IMPORTANT, AS IS THE ANGULAR STRUCTURE AND DEFINITE THOUGHTS ABOUT THES A THEMICS. AND AS FAR AS THE AMENITIES, IT REALLY STRONG -- WHEN YOU GET 80 TO 85% OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS TO AGREE. 5% TO 7% WHO SAY, HEY, WE WOULD RATHER GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

WHAT I AM SEEING THAT THIS SURVEY CONVEYS TO THIS COURT THAT YOU HAVE AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS WHO WANT TO SEE AS MANY AMENITIES AS WE CAN AFFORD.

IS THAT A GOOD SUMMARY? >> A PRETTY GOOD SUMMARY.

AS FAR AS THE DATA IS CONC CONCERNED, JUDGE, YES.

OF COURSE, AS FAR AS THE SURVEYS AND UP TO YOU GUYS TO DELAWARE SIDE. IT IS OUT OF OUR REVIEW, BUT WE

HAVE CONFIDENCE FOR THIS COURT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER MAREZ.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: SURE. JUST THE PROCESS.

ON AN INVESTMENT THIS BIG, WE REALLY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THIS KIND OF INPUT AND COLLECTED -- THE DATA GATHERED AND PRESENT THIS WAY. THERE ARE SOME SMALLER PROJECTS THAT WE REALLY SHOULD SELF-REFLECT AS A COURT AND TRY TO DO THIS INTERNALLY AND I THINK THERE IS CERTAIN LEVEL AND DEFINITELY ONE OF THEM BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF MUFFIN WE ARE PUTTING IN AND THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IMPACTED ON A DAILY BASIS. I APPRECIATE WILL, BILL, AND EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN A PART OF THIS.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US KIND OF MIMIC THIS FOR FUTURE PROJECTS. DON'T GO TOO FAR AWAY.

WE KNOW WHERE TO FIND YOU ALL. AND I THINK THIS WILL BE HELPFUL TO REALLY GET MORE -- BETTER FEEDBACK, BUT ALSO -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY TO JUSTIFY, BUT TO EXPLAIN BETTER AND BREAK IT DOWN IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE IT AND ENVISION IT.

NO SLANT HERE. YOU ARE PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

YOU WANT TO REFLECT THAT FEEDBACK WHETHER IT IS GOOD FOR BAD. HERE IT IS GOOD.

I APPRECIATE YOU INCLUDING SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT PEOPLE FELT WERE OF ITEMS THEY FELT WERE NOT IMPORTANT.

SO I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT TO SHARE TOO.

THAT GOES WITH THE CREDIBILITY OF THE PRESENTATION.

WE JUST CAN'T TALKS ALL GOOD AND ALL FLUFF.

THAT IS WHAT I APPRECIATE WITH THIS.

I HOPE WE DO THAT, JUDGE, WITH SOME OF THE OTHER BIGGER PROJECTS THAT WE MAY HAVE. GET SOMETHING MAYBE ON THIS SCALE, BECAUSE EVERYONE FROM EVERY PRECINCT IS IMPACTED BY THIS PROJECT NO MATTER WHERE THEY LIVE IN THE COUNTY AND AREA, THEY WILL GO AND ENJOY IT.

BUT WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS MIMICKED FOR FUTURE PROJECTS AND I THINK THAT WILL GO A LONG WAY IN HELPING US SEE IF THERE IS A NEED FOR IT. AND ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND IF WE INVEST MONEY, THIS THE REASON WHY WE HAVE IT LAID OUT BASE ON DATA, BASED ON COLLECTION, BASED ON TOWN HALL MEETINGS AND THE INFORMATION WE COLLECTED.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MAREZ.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. BUT I MYSELF WOULD APPROACH

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THIS VERY CAREFULLY, SLOWLY. BECAUSE NO TELLING WHAT THE ECONOMY IS GOING TO BE DOING. SO THAT IS MY TAKE ON THAT.

TAKE A SLOW APPROACH AND MAKE SURE WE CAN AFFORD WHATEVER WE DECIDE ON. AND FOR THE FUTURE ALSO.

THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY,

COMMISSIONER, NICKELS? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NO

MA'AM. >>JUDGE CANALES: IF MY OLD MAN WAS IN THE ROOM AND HE WAS KIND OF -- AS HE IS FOR ME MY MENTOR AND MY, YOU KNOW -- AND AN ICON ALSO IN YOUR LINE OF WORK, I WOULD FEEL REMISS IF I WOULDN'T RECOGNIZE HIM.

I WILL ASK YOU TO RECOGNIZE YOUR DAD BECAUSE HE REALLY IS -- WHEN I THINK OF SOMEBODY IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT DOES HAVE A PULSE ON -- YOU ON HOW THE SENTIMENTS GO WITH REGARDS TO MARKETING AND ADVERTISING AND INPUT.

I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIM, BUT SEEMS MORE FITTING IF YOU DO

IT. >> SURE, MY FATHER HERE CAME TODAY JUST TO BE IN THE WRAP-UP THE LAST PART OF WHAT WE WERE CONTRACTED TO DO AND HE WANTED TO SEE JUST -- AS IT CAME TO FRUITION. AND HE SHOWED UP TODAY.

BILL PETTIS IN THE GALLERY. >>JUDGE CANALES: GOOD TO SEE YOU. ONE OF THE COMMENTS JUST MADE THIS MORNING ON ANOTHER MATTER BUT REFLECTED ON THE HISTORY.

SO IN 1983 WAS THE LAST TIME WE SAW A CRISTENING OF THIS PIER.

AND YOU KNOW, I GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL -- MY SENIOR YEAR IN HIGH SCHOOL. THAT IS A LONG, LONG, LONG TIME AGO. AND I THINK THAT REALLY WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THESE SURVEYS ARE REALLY TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE INVESTMENT IS ABOUT TO BE MADE FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS.

AND SO I THINK THAT THAT -- WHAT WE DID HERE WAS WE WERE ABLE TO CAPTURE THE SENTIMENT FOR OUR FUTURE.

AND IT IS JUST FANTASTIC. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU INSPIRED US. DARYL AIRWOOD FROM THE CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER PART OF OUR VIRTUAL TOWN HALLS, THAT AS COMMISSIONER MAREZ SAID, IS MAYBE -- WHEN WE HAVE MAJOR PROJECTS, WE GO THIS ROUTE. BUT EVEN STILL, SEEKING THE COMMUNITY'S INPUT AND BEING ABLE TO DO THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS THROUGH OUR OWN, YOU KNOW, FORMATTING.

THROUGH OUR OWN WEB SITE IS CRITICAL.

SO THE LAST QUESTION FOR YOU. THIS INFORMATION AS IT HAS JUST BEEN RELAYED TO US. CAN WE GET IT ON A WEB SITE SO

EVERYBODY CAN RECEIVE IT. >> ACTUALLY I RELEASED A PRESS RELEASE WITH REGARD TO THAT. YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEB SITE.

FUTUREBOBHALLPIER.COM. WE RELEASED THE SURVEY.

YOU CAN LOOK AT IT, CLICK ON IT.

ALL THE INFORMATION FOR THE PIER AND WE USE THAT AS A HUB OF INFORMATION THROUGHOUT THIS. YES.

>>JUDGE CANALES: GREAT. I WILL REPEAT THAT, FUTU FUTUREBOBHALLPIER.COM AND YOU CAN GET ALL OF THE INFORMATION WE SAW HERE TODAY. AND EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LITERALLY TALK BACK TO US IN A BLOG, YOU KNOW HOW TO REACH US AND YOU CAN ALWAYS PROVIDE YOUR COMMENTS TO THE COURT. SO, GUYS, TERRIFIC JOB.

THANK YOU. AND I KNOW THIS DATA WILL DRIVE

OUR ULTIMATE DECISION. >> THANK YOU.

[3. Discuss and consider executing an interlocal agreement with the City of Corpus Christi for lifeguard services along the beach at Padre Balli Park as authorized under Chapter 791 of the Texas Government Code for time frames listed in the interlocal agreement for Spring and Summer seasons of the year 2022.]

>> THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 3 WHICH IS SCOTT CROSS.

THIS IS AN INTERLOCAL AGRE AGREEMENT.

NOT YOU PER SE, SCOTT. BUT HAS TO DO WITH COASTAL AND LIFEGUARD SERVICES ALONG THE BEACH AT PADRE BALLI PARK.

AND I BELIEVE THIS INTERLOCAL IS IN ORDER.

>> YOU WILL NOTICE THIS IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, RIGHT, THAN LAST YEAR. WHEN I WORKED WITH THE COMMISSIONER CHESNEY ON GETTING CORPUS CHRISTI TO COME ON BOARD AND DO THIS, WE RECOGNIZED THAT THE CITY OF PORT ARANSUS PLAYED A MORE MARKETING RATED. THE CITY IS MAKING ADJUSTMENT TO RECRUIT OPEN WATER INSTEAD OF PAYING THE OPEN WATER THE SAME AS A POOL GUARD. DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

THEY ARE MAKING ADJUSTMENTS AND BUDGETED THAT YEARS AGO AND IT

IS SAFE. >>JUDGE CANALES: SCOTT, I WANT TO ASK YOU. EARLIER THIS YEAR IN BUDGET WE APPROPRIATED AN ADDITIONAL $300,000 FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS. ARE WE UTILIZING THOSE?

>> NO. >>JUDGE CANALES: NOT YET.

DO YOU ANTICIPATE WE WILL NEED TO? THE REASON I AM ASK -- OBVIOUSLY I AM THINKING AHEAD OF OUR BUDGET AND HOW THOSE DOLLARS CAN BE UTILIZED FOR NEXT YEAR. HOW DO YOU SEE THAT.

>> IF WE EXECUTE ANYTHING WITH ESD NUMBER 2.

I UNDERSTAND ISSUES WITH ESD NUMBER 2 BEING AROUND OR NOT BEING AROUND IN THE FUTURE AND AS FAR AS THE CITY, THERE IS

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SOME STUFF THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED THERE.

BUT THAT IS THE PLACE TO LAND IT USDS, EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT. ONE POINT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY AND DALE ASKED ME WHAT I NEEDED TO START OFF THE GUARD PROGRAM.

I SAID NO, NO, WAY TOO EXPENSIVE TO START FROM THE GROUND UP. START WITH A ESD WITH FIRST RESPONDERS, AMBULANCES, FIRE TRUCKS AND SUPPLEMENT THEN.

WE BROUGHT A PROPOSAL TO THE COMMISSIONER, MY KEV, CRAIG FULLER AND CHIEF DALE SCOTT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

MORE THAN WHAT WE COULD WRITE A CHECK FOR AT THE TIME.

THAT'S WHERE -- THAT IS WHERE I FIGURED THAT $300,000 WILL COME INTO PLAY AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.

BUT WE ARE WAY PAST THAT NOW. IF WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH AN ESD NUMBER 2. WE NEED TO START IN THE FALL.

TAKES SIX MONTHS TO GET THE RESCUE EQUIPMENT AND WE ARE TOO LATE AND WE HAVE RUN WITH WHAT WE GOT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WITH THIS INTERLOCAL, YOU FEEL SATISFIED THAT THE MONEY WE HAVE BUDGETED WILL COVER IT AND SATISFY THE NEW LEGISLATION THAT WE ALL SUPPORT HERE?

>> YES, WE ARE GOOD. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

MY QUESTIONS. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO MOVED.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL SE SECOND.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

I DO HAVE A NUMBER FOUR, BUT THEY HAVE REMINDED ME THAT -- LOUIE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS OR MAKE A QUICK CORRECTION AND I WILL MOVE TO TO NUMBER 4.

SCOTT, HANG ON FOR THAT ONE. >> THIS MORNING I WAS ASKED DID THE COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL ISSUE A CITATION FOR A FIRE THAT HATCHED ON THURSDAY, THE BRUSH FIRE.

AND THE CORRECTED ANSWER IS, NO, HE DID NOT.

IT WAS ISSUED BY ONE OF THE CONSTABLES IN PRECINCT 5.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IT WAS ISSUED BUT BY PRECINCT 5.

>> YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO I AM GLADS YOU ARE HERE THOUGH. BECAUSE THIS NEXT ITEM HAS SOME GOOD INFORMATION AND SCOTT WILL HELP US -- I AM GLAD LOUIE IS

[4. Discuss and consider submission of scope of work to the Planning Assistance to States (PAS) Program with the United States Army Corp of Engineers (USACE).]

HERE TO LISTEN IN TO PAS. I AM SORRY.

AT THIS TIME, MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 4, THE SUBMISSION OF SCOPE OF WORK FOR THE PAS PROGRAM.

PLANNING ASSISTANCE TO STATES WITH THE UNITED STATES ARMY CORP OF ENGINEERS. AND SCOTT, I KNOW THAT --

>> YOU HAD YOUR BIG MEETING WITH THE CORPS.

LAST WEEK IT WAS. >>JUDGE CANALES: LAST WEEK.

>> SO, COMMISSIONERS, THE PAS PROGRAM, YOU HAVE A PAS PROGRAM AND A CAT PROGRAM. TOUCHDOWN AUTHORITIES PROGRAM IS C. A. T. THOSE ARE THE ACRONYMS. ANYHOW, WE WERE -- WE WERE APPROACHED BY THE CORPS, GOSH, OVER A YEAR AGO BY REUBEN TREVINO AND CARAGIO.

I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS LAST NAME. I FORGET -- WHAT MAGGIE SAID.

AND SO THEY -- THEY ACTUALLY CAME TO ME -- OR MEGAN AND I --

>>JUDGE CANALES: FORGIVE ME, SCOTT.

SOME FEEDBACK. GIVE US JUST A SECOND.

TRY THAT. >> YOU KNOW HOW LOUD I AM ANYHOW. SO THEY ACTUALLY CAME BACK -- CAME IN THE SPRING. WE ACTUALLY DID A FULL DAY WITH THEM TOURING OUR BEACHES. WE WERE JUST FOCUSED ON BEACH HEADS AT THE TIME. POST ANA AND INVITED THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI TO THE MEETING AS WELL.

WELL, THAT TURNED INTO SOME CONVERSATIONS THAT THEY HAD DIRECTLY WITH THE JUDGE. BECAUSE UNDER THEIR PROGRAM, YOU AS A COASTAL POLITICAL SUBDIVISION.

YOU HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THEM. THEY CAN NOT SOLICIT YOU UNDER THE FEDERAL RULES OF ENGA ENGAGEMENT.

WE REACHED OUT TO THEM AND ENGAGED WITH THEM.

AND THAT TURNED INTO A LETTER OF INTENT THAT THE COURT EXECUTED A WHILE BACK FOR THE PAS PROGRAM.

THAT TURNS INTO A SCOPE OF W WORK.

AND THAT SCOPE OF IS -- EXCUSE ME -- DO WE HAVE IT ON COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR THIS TIME AROUND, THIS SCOPE OF W

WORK? >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, WE DO.

>> TURNS INTO THE SCOPE OF WORK.

WE IDENTIFIED WHAT ONE WOULD CONSIDER IN KIND, WHAT WE CAN USE AS MATCH AND WHAT OUR O OUT-OF-POCKET COSTS WOULD BE.

AND THIS PROGRAM RIGHT NOW WE ARE DISCUSSING IS BOTH THE BREAK WATERS AND CORPUS CHRISTI BAY AS WELL AS OUR BEACH HEADS.

THERE IS SOME OTHER PATHS WE CAN TAKE -- EXCUSE ME I HAVE THIS NAGGING STUFF AFTER THAT COVID BUT I AM NOT POSITIVE.

ANYHOW, THE BEACH HEAD. NOT FASTER TRACK BUT THIS IS

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SOMETHING THAT THE CORPS WANTS US TO DO.

THEY WANT US TO GETS ON RADAR. WE HAVE TO DO IT NOW.

THEIR 2023 BUDGET IS COMING UP. IF WE ARE GOING TO GET FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FROM THEM, WE WILL GET IN IN THEIR 2023 BUDGET. NOW IS THE TIME TO SAY, YES, WHERE HE WANT TO PARTICIPATE. I KNOW THE PORT IS INVOLVED.

THE PORT HAS OBLIGATED UP TO 400,000 NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT FOR ENGINEERING. THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT MOTT MCDONALD HAPPEN DONE GEOTECHNICAL WORK.

WE GOT ALL OF OUR SURVEY DATA UNDER THE INSTITUTE STUFF FOR THE BEACHES. WE KNOW WHAT OUR BASELINE IS AND WHAT IT IS NOT. AND ANOTHER THING THAT IS IMPORTANT AT THIS. I SAID THIS FOR MANY YEARS AND I DON'T THINK IT WILL RESONATE LIKE IT WILL RESONATE WITH THIS COURT. IF YOU FIND YOURSELF IN A POST EMERGENCY DISASTER SITUATION. YOU WANT TO GO TO FEMA AND YOU WANT FUNDING TO HELP WITH THE BEACH RENOURISH.

AND DUNE STRUCTURE FOR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE.

THOSE HOUSES. THOSE TAX PAYERS.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANNUAL B BASELINE DATA WHERE YOU ARE PRESTORM VERSUS POST STORM, YOU WILL NEVER GET THAT HELP.

NEVER FUND IT. THERE IS A COST TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE ALONG THE BEACH AND ANY RESIDENTS WHO LIVE OR OWN BUSINESSES OUT THERE IS PART OF IT.

RECENTLY AFTER HANNA, WE ARE STARTING TO RECOGNIZE WE NEED TO BE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND DOING REGULAR SURVEY WORK.

RIGHT NOW WE KNOW WE NEED TO REBUILD OUR BEACH.

WE NEVER TYPICALLY HAD ENG ENGINEERED BEACHES IN NUECES COUNTY. THERE IS NO HISTORY OF IT.

EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. WE HELP WITH THE EROSION RESPONSE TEAM TEAMING UP WITH THE CITY.

NOT THAT THE CITY WILL HAVE DOOMED PERMANENT AUTHORITY.

THEY DO NOT. SOLELY WITH THE COUNTY.

BUT THEY NEEDED HELP SINCE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT TO QUALIFY FOR COASTAL EROSION PROTECTION RESPONSE ACT GRANTS THAT ARE PRESENTED BY THE STATE BUDGET THROUGH THE GLO, THEY NEEDED THE MONEY TO DREDGE WHEN WE NEEDED IT.

THE ONLY WAY IF WE TEAM UP TO DO AN ERP.

WE THREW THEM A BONE ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE DID.

THIS PROGRAM WITH THE CORPS RIGHT NOW WILL START CHECKING SOME OF THOSE BOXES TO DESIGN A PATH FORWARD FOR THE BREAK WATERS TO PROTECT NORTH BEACH AND PROPERTY AND STRUCTURES DOWN THERE WHAT WE NEED TO REGAIN OUR BEACHHEAD AFTER HANNA. IF YOU DON'T DO THIS, WE ALREADY HAVE THE SCIENTIFIC STUDIES AND THE DATA.

COMMISSIONER MAREZ, YOU WERE INTERESTED IN WHAT HE WAS PRESENTING. IT WAS NEAT STUFF EVEN THOUGH IT WAS LONG. IT WILL TAKE 11 YEARS WITHOUT ANY MORE STORMS -- NO STOSHLS AT ALL FOR THAT BEACH TO HEAL.

THAT IS JUST YOUR BEACH PRESIDENT NOR YOUR DUNES.

THEY ARE COMING BACK A LITTLE FASTER BUT COMING BACK ON THEIR OWN. KIND OF WHAT WE ARE FACED WITH.

WE NEED TO GO OUT AND FIGURE OUT WHERE THE BEACH QUALITY SANDS ARE GOING TO COME FROM. THE ENGINEERS AND CORONER WILL HELP IDENTIFY THAT. THEY HAVE ENSURED PLACEMENT SITES ALREADY THAT MAY BE OF USE TO US.

WE DON'T KNOW THE VOLUME. WE WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ANY PLACEMENT OR DREDGING BECAUSE WE ARE SAVING THE CORPS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INSTEAD OF TAKING IT OFFSHORE.

WE HAVE TO DEPOSIT IN FEDERAL WATERS.

IF YOU GO AFTER DEPOSITS OFFSHORE, IT BECOMES A TOTAL FEDERAL PROGRAM. NOT A PROGRAM YOU PARTNER WITH THE STATE ON IF IT IS -- SO THAT -- THAT IS HOW I AM INVOLVED WITH IT. AND WHAT I HAVE BEEN DOING AND HELPING THE JUDGE WITH IT. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE GREAT. EDGAR SHELL FOUNDATION SAY THEY ARE GOING TO FUND THE BREAKWATERS.

THEY HAVE $20 MILLION IN THE GAME RIGHT NOW.

A PATH FORWARD WITH ALL OF THIS, TOO, THAT YOU CAN APPLY FOR CAPITAL FUNDING AND GO -- IF YOU GET THE PROJECT AS A TIER ONE PROJECT AND A GREAT UPDATE.

I TALKED TO THE GLO OF FRIDAY LAST WEEK OF THE NEW RESILIENCY AND GET IT INVOLVED WITH TIER 1 PROJECTS ALONG THE RESILIENCY.

THERE IS NO MONEY COSTS TO US. IT'S GREAT.

IT IS WIN-WIN. BUT YOU HAVE A WARMED SYSTEM.

>>JUDGE CANALES: DID YOU A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING IT.

AND, OF COURSE, THESE ARE THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL IF WE ARE TO RECEIVE THE ASSISTANCE OF THE CORPS.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE SCOPE OF WORK.

THE LETTER OF INTENT. THEN THEY JUST CAN'T HELP YOU.

JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S ACKNOWLEDGE AMMENT, THE

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GALVESTON DISTRICT IS A VERY LARGE DISTRICTS AND DOES ENCOMPASS OUR BEACHES AND WATERS.

BUT THEY ALSO WORK ON INLAND PROJECTS.

I WANTS TO YOU KNOW FOR THE COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE NOT COASTAL THAT IS THE EXACT STILL TYPE OF PROGRAM WITH THE -- WITH THE -- YOU KNOW, WITH THE CORE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR US TO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO AVAIL OURSELVES OF THEIR -- THEIR

ASSISTANCE AS WELL. >> COMMISSIONER MAREZ, ROBSTOWN

IS IN YOUR PRECINCT. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: YES.

>> MAJOR IAN SULLIVAN SECOND IN COMMAND HIS WIFE'S FAMILY FROM ROBSTOWN. HE REACHED OUT TO ME AND SAID THAT THE CORPS WANT TO HELP WITH THE DRAINAGE STUDY.

THEY WANT TO ENGAGE. UNSOLICITED.

I THINK THAT IS GREAT. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: THAT IS

GREAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THIS ALL STARTS WITH THESE TYPES OF AGREEMENTS.

BUT AGAIN WE NEED SEDIMENT. THOSE BEACHES MUST BE RENOURISHED AND YOU CAN'T GET THE SETTLEMENT READY TO RECEIVE WITHOUT THE SETTLEMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN.

WITH THAT, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SCOTT? HE IS BONA FIDE EXPERT HERE THEY WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COURT IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.

IF ALL OF YOU ARE INTERESTED, WE CAN POST THE MEETING AND YOU CAN WORK ON THAT AND WE HOPE THAT IT IS A GOOD IDEA SO YOU UNDERSTAND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

OKAY, A MOTION TO CONSIDER THE SUBMISSION.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY FOR SAYING AYE. NOW -- GIVE ME A SECOND.

I AM HAPPY TO ADVANCE IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

[5. Discuss and consider applying for an "American World War II Heritage City" regional designation through the National Park Service.]

>> ME AND JJ HAVE -- JUDGE JUDGE YES, YOU ARE NEXT --

>>JUDGE CANALES: YES, YOU ARE CHECKS.

JJ AND YOU HAVE THE AMERICAN WORLD WAR II HERITAGE CITY REGIONAL DESIGNATION THROUGH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.

I WILL LET YOU SET THE TABLE. >> I AM VERY EXCITED TO TELL YOU GUYS ABOUT THIS. JUST HAPPENSTANCE.

MARY KAY SCRUPA. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY KNOWS HER AS WELL. SHE SENT ME AN E-MAIL FROM THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE OF THIS WORLD WAR II HERITAGE DISTRICT DESIGNATION. I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT AND I GOT TO LOOK AT IT AND AT FACE VALUE.

I AM ALWAYS LIKE, LET'S DO IT. KNEE-JERK REACTION.

LET'S DO IT. I REACHED OUT TO JJ.

I SAID, HELL, ME AND JJ CAN DO THIS.

WE GOT THE CEMETERY AND NAS CORPUS CHRISTI.

WE GOT THE LEGS. AND THIS STARTED GETTING WH WHEELS. AND REACHED OUT -- AS MOST OF YOU KNOW MY WIFE WORKS ON THE CHAMBER AND SERVES RECOMMENDING THE CHAMBERS ON THE SOUTH TEXAS MILITARY TASK FORCE COMMITTEE.

I REACHED OUT TO JEN AND I S SAID, JENNY, WE NEED HELP.

JENNY STARTED DIGGING INTO IT AND FOUND OUT THERE IS ONLY GOING TO BE ONE AREA IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF NEXT GO AROUND.

TO IT WILL BE EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE.

SO WE GOT TO ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES AND GET CRACKING AND WE NEED ALL OF Y'ALL'S HELP ON THIS.

THIS IS BIG. THE HISTORY BETWEEN NAVAL AIR STATION. ALL THAT WE HAVE IN THE COASTAL BEND REGION WE DO NOT HAVE THIS DESIGNATION.

MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE TO ME AT ALL.

I AM FOND OF DOING THIS. MY GRANDFATHER WAS A WORLD WAR II VETERAN. STAFF IS THE IS THE COOK IN THE MARINE CCORPS AND IN WESTERLY PEELING POTATOES.

HE WAS ON THE ISLAND OF MIDWAY AND FOUGHT THE BATTLE -- WHEN I WAS A KID -- HE WAS AN OLD S SALT, TALL BOYS AND WINSTON CIGARETTES. HE WOULD SIT THERE AND SAY WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THAT CRAP -- YOU KNOW IN THE MOVIE ON THE ISLAND. THEY HIT THE MESS KITCHEN AND ALL THEY HAD WERE FLOUR AND BLUEBERRIES.

HE SWORE HE WOULD NEVER EAT ANOTHER BLUEBERRY MUFFIN OR PANCAKE. HE WOULDN'T TOUCH A BLUEBERRY AS LONG AS HE LIVED. I WISH I WOULD HAVE SPEND MORE TIME LEARNING ALL THOSE STORIES WHEN I WAS A KID AND I DIDN'T.

>>JUDGE CANALES: YOU REPRESENTED COASTAL PARKS AND COASTAL PARKS AND PORT A ARE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT SIGNIFICANCE TO WORLD WAR II. TALK ABOUT WHY WE BELIEVE WE ARE -- ASIDE OUR THREE MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AND NAVAL AIR

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STATION THAT TRAINED OUR WORLD WORLD WAR II VETERANS, TELL US

BRIEFLY OF THE PORT A. >> SORRY.

I GET EXCITED. >>JUDGE CANALES: TALK OF THE PORT A. 155-MITT METERS PANAMA GUNS IN THE DUNES IN PORT ARAN SAS. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, YOU HAVE SEEN THEM. YOU COME WITH THE SIGN DESIGNATION WITH COMMISSIONER CHESNEY.

THEY ARE STILL THERE. WE WILL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THOSE IN THE PIER EXPANSION AND OTHER THINGS, BUT THAT WAS AN ARMY UNIT THAT WAS THERE AT THE TIME TO PROTECT AGAINST GERMAN U BOAT ACTIVITIES THAT SPOTTED GERMAN U BOATS IN THE GULF AS YOU KNOW AND SPOTTED IT IN THE ARANSAS SHIP CHANNEL.

>> THE AND SO THEY WERE TRYING TO PROTECT THAT.

AND AT TIMES, THE GERMAN U BOATS.

FIRE TORPEDOES AND BOMB THE TANK.

THEY ARE STILL THERE AND PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.

AND BEFORE THAT HOME TO FORT SIMMS THE CONFEDERATE FORT --

THE CIVIL WAR. >>JUDGE CANALES: J.J., THE USS LEXINGTON AND THE BLUE GHOST HAS A BIG IMPORTANT SIGNIFICANCE. BUT IN GENERAL, YOUR OFFICE, JJ, THAT WILL BE SUBMITTING THE ACTUAL APPLICATION.

>> YES, MA'AM. >>JUDGE CANALES: WOULD YOU

LIKE TO. >> ABSOLUTELY AS YOU MENTIONED, JUDGE. THERE IS SO MUCH HISTORY HERE IN THIS REGION THAT SUPPORTED WORLD WAR II.

WALDRIN FIELD. KING CACHE RANCH.

THE HORNETS ARE NAMED AFTER THE USS HORNETS.

SO MUCH HISTORY AND VETERAN CEMETERY.

SO MANY WORLD WAR II VETERANS BURIED AT THE VETERANS CEM CEMETERY. A WIN, WIN.

A LOT THAT REACHED OUT TO. THE DEL MAR DEVELOPMENT CENTER TO MEET AND ORGANIZE. IT IS A WIN-WIN.

WE ARE ALL IN AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOUR SUPPORT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: COMMIS COMMISSIONERS, OUR IDEA WAS TO INVOLVE OUR LIBRARY SYSTEM. AND SCRIVENER.

THE CONCEPT IS THE APPROVAL HERE TODAY AND LIBRARIANS TO HELP BE THE -- BE THE RECI RECIPIENTS OF THIS INFORMATION TO HELP JJ'S OFFICE REALLY PUT IT TOGETHER WELL, TELL OUR

STORY. >> THE 41, GEORGE BUSH RECEIVED HIS WINGS HERE. JOHN MCCAIN.

>> BOB BARKER. >>JUDGE CANALES: BOB BARKER.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THE PRICE IS RIGHT.

[LAUGHTER] >>JUDGE CANALES: WITH YOUR BLESSING ON THIS SUBMISSION, WE WILL COME UP WITH THE DATE, GIVE YOU PLENTY OF NOTICE. HAVE A BIG DAY, PROBABLY MULTIPLE TIMES, RIGHT, SO PEOPLE WHO WORK AND VERSUS PEOPLE WHO PREFER DAY. LIKE A DAY AND EARLY EVENING WHERE THEY CAN COME AND SHARE THEIR THEIR MEMENTOS, STORIES AND PHOTOGRAPHS AND EVERYBODY WHO TUTD TOGETHER A GREAT

APPLICATION. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: JJ, TO LET YOU KNOW, COVERS THE BISHOP AREA, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SEEN THAT -- OF WORLD WAR I AND WORLD WAR II COMMISSIONERS. THEY ARE ADDED ON THAT WALL AND THEIR FAMILIES HAVE A LOT OF HISTORIES AND STORIES.

WHEN WE HAD THE DEDICATION T THIS, THEY TALKED ABOUT WHAT THEY REMEMBERED, YOU KNOW. BUT A LIST -- WORLD WAR I AND

II ON THAT WALL. >>JUDGE CANALES: IF YOU ALL WOULD SEND -- FIRST LET ME ASK FOR THE MOTION.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IF YOU SEND YOUR CONCEPT, IDEAS AND CONTEXT TO J.J.

MAYBE COPY SCOTT. HE HAS BEEN GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO HELP OUT HERE AND WE WILL GET YOU A DATE AT THE ECO DUSHINGZ IVO. AND SOMETHING YOU WANT TO

PARTICIPATE IN. >> WE ARE ASKING FOR HELP WITH YOUR ELECTED POSITIONS TO REACH OUT TO OUR STATE AND FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES AND GET YOUR SENATORS AND CONGRESSMAN TO WRITE LETTERS OF SUPPORT. THIS WILL BE EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE AND I WANT TO BLOW THEM AWAY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I AGREE WITH YOU.

LET COMMISSIONER CHESNEY H HELPING WITH CITY OF PORT ARANSAD. ALL THE THINGS WITH WE NORMALLY DO BENEFIT US. THIS IS A GROUP PROJECT THAT WE ARE PLEASED TO TAKE A LEAD ON. THANK YOU, GUYS.

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ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

[6. Discuss and consider approving Budget Planning Schedule for Fiscal Year 2022-2023.]

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: ARE THEY THE -- BUDGET PLANNING SCHEDULE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO US AND TERESA IS HERE TO READ IT OUT JUST IN CASE WE LIKE TO VERBALIZE IT FOR THE CLERK.

GO AHEAD, TERESA JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, THE PROPOSED BUDGET PLANNING SCHEDULE. I WILL HIGHLIGHT SOME KEY DATES, APRIL 8 THE COUNTY AUDITOR WILL SEND IN BUDGET PACKET. THIS IS MOVED DOWN A WEEK FROM LAST YEAR. THIS IS APRIL 1.

APRIL 29, THE CHIEF APPRAISER WILL HAVE ESTIMATES OF TAXABLE VALUE MAY 6, THE PACKETS FROM THE BUDGET DEPARTMENT ARE DUE BACK TO THE COUNTY AUDITOR. JUNE 6-7 AND THE 9 AND 10 ARE BUDGET PRESENTATIONS. THEN WE HAVE A TENTATIVE BUDGET WORKSHOP ALSO ON JULY 7. JULY 29, THE AUDITOR -- TAX OFFICE WILL DO THE CALCULATION ON THE N NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE AND VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE.

AUGUST 8 AND 9 WILL BE DISCUSSIONS ON THOSE PROPOSED TAX RATE. AUGUST 10, THE COUNTY AUDITOR WILL SUBMIT TO THE COURT SUBMISSION OF THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE, THE APPROVAL TAX RATE SCHEDULES, FUND BALANCES. AUGUST 15 AND 16 WILL BE CONTINUED BUDGET WORKSHOPS TO DISCUSS THE TAX RATE.

ON AUGUST 17, WOULD BE THE DATE THAT THE COURT WILL DISCUSS THE TAX RATE AND TAKE A RECORD VOTE ON THEIR ACTION.

AUGUST 24, THE TAX OFFICE WILL PUBLISH IN THE NEWSPAPER THE PROPOSED TAX RATE. AUGUST 28, WE WILL BE HAVE ELECTED OFFICIALS SALARIES AND ALSO THE BUDGET HEARING.

SEPTEMBER 1, THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX INCREASE.

SEPTEMBER 7 IS THE MEETING TO ADOPT THE TAX RATE.

IT IS ALSO THE MEETING TO ADOPT THE BUDGET.

AND SEPTEMBER 14 IS THE KEY DATE FOR THE TAX OFFICE BECAUSE THEIR DEADLINE TO SEND OUT THE TAX NOTICES.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT AND YOU THINK REVIEWED BY THE TAX OFFICE, COURT ADMINI ADMINISTRATOR. COMMISSIONERS, A MOTION TO

APPROVE THE BUDGET. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ:

DISCUSSION JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: OF COURSE.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: SEPTEMBER 1 -- THIS HAS HAPPENED IN PREVIOUS YEARS OR MAYBE EVERY YEAR.

THE -- LET'S SEE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: THE

CONFERENCE? >> I THOUGHT WE HAD A CONFERENCE AROUND ONE OF THOSE DATES.

LET'S SEE. SEPTEMBER 1, RIGHT.

WE ARE SET -- PROPOSED CALENDAR SAYS WE ARE SET TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. THAT IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR LEGISLATIVE CONFERENCE. AND I AM REAL LEERY PUTTING ANYTHING AROUND THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE MAJORITY OF THE COURT WILL ATTEND. I KNOW I WILL MAKE A PRIORITY TO GO BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE THERE TO HELP MEET WITH THE OTHER TO PLAN FOR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA GOING INTO SECTION 2023.

SO IS THERE ANOTHER DATE THAT WE CAN CHANGE? I CAN'T IMAGINE OTHER COUNTIES PROBABLY IS A SIMILAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM. HOW DO THEM GETS AROUND THAT.

IS THAT UNAVOIDABLE? >> UNAVOIDABLE, COMMISSIONER.

BECAUSE I DID TALK TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A QUORUM FOR THAT DATE BECAUSE IT FOLLOWS OUR SCHEDULE AND I GOT THAT WE CAN HAVE IT AT 8:00 OR 8:30 IN THE MORNING. BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE WERE GOING

TO BE OFF. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: THE CONFERENCE STARTS ON AUGUST 31. SO THAT IS, LIKE, DAY TWO, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE THREE-DAY --

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WILL BE HERE OPINION I DON'T THINK I WILL GO UNLESS -- WE CAN ALL DO ONLINE.

I DEFINITELY WON'T GO TO ANYMORE.

I WILL BE HERE AT LEAST. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: IS IT

GOING TO BE ONLINE? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE PASSED THAT LAW AND THE ORDER THAT SAID ALL OF OUR CONTINUE

EDUCATION -- >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: NOT ABOUT CONTINUING EDUCATION BUT A LEGISLATIVE CONFERENCE EVERY YEAR FOR THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES.

HAPPENED PREVIOUSLY. LAST YEAR I DID NOT GO AND SOMEHOW THE CALENDAR WORKED PREVIOUS YEARS AND I WAS ABLE

TO ATTEND PRIOR TO PRE-COVID. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: A

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CONTINUING SEMINAR. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: NOT ABOUT THE HOURS FOR ME. A CONFERENCE IN JUNE THAT WE CAN GET HOURS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO TRAVEL.

WE HAVE A THREE-DAY CONFERENCE AND -- IF I NEED TO TRAVEL BACK AND FORTH FROM AUSTIN, I GUESS I CAN IF WE HAVE A MAJORITY IN PERSON, THAT IS FINE. BUT THAT IS MY CONCERN IS THATS NOT ONLY THIS YEAR. NEXT YEAR.

NOT A BIG DEAL BUT A WRAP-UP SESSION.

EVERY YEAR IT IS ALWAYS SOMETHING.

SO WE RARELY. YOU MOVE ONE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE AND MOVE OTHERS. THAT IS UNAVOIDABLE AND ASKING TOO MUCH OF YOU NOW, WE HAVE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE MOVE THESE DATES AROUND FOR NEXT YEAR. AS I SAID OF THE 254 COUNTIES.

PRETTY GOOD REPRESENTATION FOR MOST OF THE COUNTIES HERE.

I CAN'T IMAGINE THE SAME CALENDAR CONSIDERING THEIR FISCAL YEARS ARE OCTOBER 1. WHAT ARE THEY DOING, HOW DO THEY AVOID THAT AND IF WE CAN, DO THE SAME.

I AM FINE WITH THAT BUT NEXT YEAR WE HAVE TO MAKE A PLAN FOR IT. I WILL LET YOU KNOW I WILL BE

IN AUSTIN FOR THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: TERESA, DO WE NEED TO DO IT TODAY? CAN YOU DO SOME INVESTIGATION?

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE CAN AMEND OUR SCHEDULE.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: PUBLIC HEARING IF WE ONLY HAVE

THREE PEOPLE HERE. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: THAT MAY NOT BE WORK. THAT MAY NOT BE A PROBLEM.

OKAY. I HAD IT SHOWING SEPTEMBER 1.

SO THEN WE ARE GOOD. WE ARE GOOD.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE TODAY. IF THERE IS A CHANGE, LET'S DO ANOTHER -- ANOTHER DOUBLE CHECK OF EVERYTHING.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: MAYBE THEY CAUGHT THAT.

MAYBE EVERY YEAR I HAD A REMINDING CALENDAR.

THAT'S FINE. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: GOOD.

[7. Discuss and consider directing payment of ARPA premium pay, including grant funded positions.]

THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. ITEM NUMBER 7 IS CAN DISCUSS AND CONSIDER DIRECTING PAYMENT OF ARPA PREMIUM PAY, INCLUDING THE GRANT FUNDED POSITIONS. AND I WILL LET DALE DISCUSS ARPA PREMIUM PAY FOR US AT THIS POINT.

>> YES, YOUR HONOR. ADVANCE PAYMENT AND WE HAD A CHANCE TO MEET WITH OUR GRANTING AGENCIES TO MAKE SURE THESE ARE QUALIFYING PAYMENTS METS WITH ALL OF THEM AND IT APPEARS THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS. AND SO WE SAY WE WILL WHEN THE FIRST QUARTER COME OUT MAKE AN APPEARANCE IT ALL OTHERS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION TO APPROVE.

I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.

LET ME GET A SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: SECOND.

>>JUDGE CANALES: GO AHEAD. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHILE BACK. I WAS ASKING MAYBE LAST WEEK.

SOMEBODY WE WERE DISCUSS BEING ABOUT THE IN THE PARK PEOPLE SET UP AND TAKING DOWN. IS THERE A PART OF THE MEDIUM PAY. ONE THAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT OPINION THINK IT WAS 20%, RI

RIGHT? >> 10%.

>>JUDGE CANALES: INLAND PARKS AT 10%.

WE DID MAKE INQUIRY BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT.

NEERTS LAW ENFORCEMENT OR PUBLIC HEALTH.

THEY ARE JUST AT THE 10% CURRENTLY.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: PUBLIC WORKS.

THEY WORKED AT THE JAIL, RIGHT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS

DIFFERENT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NOT

ANY DIFFERENT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM SAYING

THAT WAS 20%. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THE PARKS, PEOPLE WORK AT THE DRIVE-THRUS, WORKED AT THE TESTING SITES. WORKED, YOU KNOW, SETTING UP, TAKING DOWN. THEY WERE ALSO THERE IN AN AREA THAT COULD HAVE VERY EASILY GOTTEN SICK OR ANYONE ELSE THAT

THERE WERE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THEY

WEREN'T DOING IT PRIMARILY. >>JUDGE CANALES: IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE CAN BRING THAT UP AGAIN, BUT THIS EVENING ITEM IS REALLY JUST FOR THE GRANT-FUNDED POSITIONS.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. CAN WE FINISH THIS PIECE OF IT FIRST. THIS IS THE GRANT-FUNDED POSITIONS. HE HAS GOTTEN CLEARANCE.

>> THIS IS FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT?

>>.THAT'S >> ALL GRANT POSITIONS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: HE HAS CHECKED WITH EVERYBODY AND ALL GOOD AND WE CAN NOW MAKE A FINAL CLARIFICATION.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM CONFUSED A BIT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE BACKUP IN OUR AGENDA. TELL US WHY WE DO THAT.

>> INCLUDE AN ADVANCE PAYMENT FOR EVERYBODY THAT BOB WORKS FOR A GRANT. SEVERAL GRANTS.

CITY, COUNTY HEALTH AND WE HAVE SOME THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF

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OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. SOME OTHERS WE HAVE AND EXCLUDED THOSE NOW AFTER TALKING TO THE GRANTING AGENCIES. THEY ARE OKAY WITH PROVIDING US AND CONTINUE THE PAYMENT OF FUNDS FOR ANY GRANT POSITIONS.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: AT THE -- WHATEVER LEVEL THEY WERE APPROVED AT. SO THIS IS -- SO WHY ARE WE

HAVING TO DO THIS TODAY? >> WE EXCLUDE THEM.

THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE GETTING PAID AND WE -- THE ISSUE THAT THE GRANTING AGENCY FELT LIKE AS QUALIFYING AS SOME OF THE GRANTS IF WE PAID A PREMIUM PAY WE CAN HAVE LOST A GRANT CHEST CHEST HOW MANY PEOPLE WE ARE --

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WE TALKING

ABOUT ON THIS ONE. >> 15 AND 20 WE HAVE DONE OUR JOB AND CLEARING IT UP FOR THE TOWARD ANYBODY THAT WORKS FOR THE COUNTY THAT IS FUNDED BY A GRANT HE CHECKED WITH THE AGENCIES. THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR PREMIUM PAY. NOTHING CHANGES BUT A CLARIFICATION ON THE RECORD IF YOU ARE IN A GRANT FUNDED POSITION, YOU WILL GET A PREMIUM PAY.

>> NOT AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF MONEY BECAUSE WE ALREADY

APPROVED IT. >> WE ALREADY PUT THIS IN AND THE ONE THAT WORKS FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WITH 12% AND

OTHER AREAS 10%. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUST AN ADMINISTRATIVE THING OFF THIS TO CLEAN UP.

THAT IS WHAT I'M ASKING. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST ARCH ADMINISTRATIVE. IN FACT -- JULIE, DO YOU HAVE

TO SAY SOMETHING? >> DALE, I KNOW PREMIUM PAY WILL BE OFFERED TO EMPLOYEES ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.

HOW ABOUT EMPLOYEES THAT LEAVE BEFORE HAND FOR TERMINATION AND SEPARATION. ARE THEY GOING TO BE PAID?

>> YES. >> WHEN WILL THEY BE PAID?

>> THE LAST CHECK. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

[8. Discuss and consider Premium Pay under the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) for law enforcement in the Nueces County Collective Bargaining Agreement.]

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ANYTHING ANY PHI BY SAYING AYE.

THE NEXT ONE IS ALSO A PREMIUM PAY DISCUSSION.

AND IT HAS TO DO WITH PREMIUM PAY UNDER THE ARPA, AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT UNDER THE NUECES COUNTY COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT.

BASICALLY OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND I WILL PITCH TO YOU AS W

WELL. >> A CONVERSATION WE HAD WITH

COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: GO AHEAD. I WILL JUMP IN.

>> THE ISSUE WAS WHEN THIS INITIAL ITEM CAME UP, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND MAYBE LAST YEAR TALK ABOUT PREMIUM PAY.

A PLAN OF GOING RETRO PAY AND WE DETERMINED THAT THE RETOUPEE FOR OCTOBER 1 FOR ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AND THE PROCESS OF THIS AT 20%. WE ARE WORKING WITH COMMISSIONER CHESNEY ON WORKING TO TRY TO RECOVER SOME OF THE BALANCES THAT WERE PROMISED TO THEM AND PUT IN SEVERAL PLANS THAT WE PROVIDE YOU ON A LIST FOR DIFFERENT RATES FOR YOU ALL'S DISCUSSION. 20% AND A PRO JINX OF GOING 25, 30 ALREADY AND 40%. IF WE GO HIGHER, SEVERAL EMPLOYEES WILL REACH THE MAXIMUM LEVEL OF FUNDING WHICH IS $25,000 AND THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT PER HOUR.

WE NORMALLY EXCLUDE THEM FROM THE 150% RATIO ADMINISTRATION FEE THAT THEIR SALARY CAN'T EXCEED.

AND ONE OR TWO AND IF WE GO HIGHER, 15 TO 20 OF THEM IN.

REQUIRE A WAIVER TO THE DEPARTMENT TREASURY.

WORKING WITH SEVERAL PEOPLE. IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE ALLOWED.

IT PROBABLY WILL, BUT A CHANCE IT WON'T BE.

IF IT WON'T BE ALLOWED, THE COUNTY WILL BE REQUIRED TO PAY BACK THE FUNDS THAT THEY ISSUED FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES, AND THE FUNDS COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

IF WE DO THIS WE DO THIS WITH KNOWING THAT THESE ISSUES WOULD APPLY. WE PROVIDE YOU THE INFORMATION WHAT THE COST WOULD BE RIGHT NOW.

WITH EVERYBODY INCLUDED AT THE CURRENT RATES AROUND FIVE AND A HALF TO SIX MILLION TOTAL PREMIUM PAY.

TOTAL PREMIUM TO AROUND $9 MILLION TODAY 10 MILLION OVER

THE ENTIRE PERIOD OF ONE YEAR. >>JUDGE CANALES: MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, A IS IT ANY DIFFERENT IF YOU CARRIED IT OVER TO ANOTHER FISCAL YEAR FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE WAIVER AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THESE THRESHOLDS.

PER CUMULATIVE. >> $25,000 IS CUMULATIVE.

ONCE THEY REACH $25 THOUSAND IN.

>>JUDGE CANALES: NO MATTER HOW LONG.

>> AS SOON AS THE PANDEMIC E ENDS, THE PREMIUM PAY STOPS.

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THAT IS THE RISK. >>JUDGE CANALES: I UNDERSTAND.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: GO 25.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CAN I ASK? QUICK FULL DISCLOSURE ON HOW THIS CAME ABOUT.

LAW ENFORCEMENT CONTINUED TO INQUIRE WHEN WERE WE GOING TO DEAL WITH THE COMMITMENT THAT THE COURT MADE THAT WE KNOW WE CAN'T DO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO PAY THEM FOR RETRO PAY.

INSTEAD OF GOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN E-MAILS OF DALE, MYSELF AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. I SET UP A MEETING AND SAT DOWN AND SAID, OKAY, HERE ARE THE ISSUES AND WHAT IS GOING ON PROBABLY SIX TO EIGHT PEOPLE WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT FOLKS.

I CAN'T REMEMBER. WRITE A FEW OF THEM.

DALE'S STAFF WAS THERE AND A CONSTITUTION TO BRING BACK.MY RECOLLECTION, DALE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

NUMBERS THAT JULY THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

AND WHEN WE WERE IN THERE, A $2.8 MILLION NUMBER AT THAT POINT THAT REPRESENTED WHAT WE HAVE COMMITTED TO THOSE OFFICERS THEN IN RETRO PAY. SO THAT WAS THE NUMBER THAT WHEN I SAT IN THE MEETING WITH -- MEETING WITH THEM.

I SAID THAT IS WHAT I -- I REMEMBER ME -- DIDN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT ME SAYING THESE ARE THE NUMBERS.

THE $9 MILLION NUMBER IS A LOT HIGHER THAN WHAT I THINK WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO THAT UNFORTUNATELY WE COULDN'T COMPLY WITH AND NOW WHAT I AM TRYING TO PUT BEFORE THE COURT IS A WAY TO COMPLY WITH THE SPIRIT WHICH IS TO GIVE THEM AN AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THEIR EFFORTS.

SO IF WHAT I NEED TO KNOW, DALE, $5 MILLION AND $9 MILLION. THAT IS WITH EVERYBODY.

THIS AGENDA ITEM IS JUST FOR THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING FO FOLKS. RIGHT.

>> FOLKS IF WE GO 35%, $2.5 MILLION.

>> THAT THE ANSWER I NEEDED TO KNOW.

>>JUDGE CANALES: SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME SLOWLY.

>> LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM 25% TO 35% IS 2.5 MILLION.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT IS IN THE VICINITY OF IT SHALL WE SAID 2. IT COULD HAVE BEEN HERE AND THERE. AND I DON'T WANT TO GET STUCK ON THE 2.8. WE GAVE THEM THE AMOUNT AND IF THAT AMOUNT IS THE FAIR AMOUNT THAT IS WHAT THIS COURT INTENDED TO DO AND 2.8. MAKE IT 2.8.

2.6. I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER THE NUMBER THAT WAS THROWN OUT THERE.

THAT WILL BE PREFERABLE TO DO BECAUSE THE RISK IS -- AS FRANCISCO MENTIONED IN THAT MEETING AND WELL HE SHOULD HAVE IF THE EMERGENCY IS DECLARED OVER, THEN WE CAN'T DO IT ANY MORE. A SHOT OF GETTING THE MONEY WE COMMITTED TO, WE WILL PROBABLY WANT TO DO THIS DIS CAL YEAR, PERIOD. THAT IS MY OPINION.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THE ONLY CONCERN HOW COURT WILL DEAL WITH THE 20 EMPLOYEES, MORE OR LESS THAT THRESHRY MIGHT REJECT. COULD YOU QUANTIFY FOR US WHAT THE RISK IS ON THAT WHAT THE INELIGIBLE IF YOU CAP IT AT --

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT

PUTS US -- >> ENTIRE SALARY REGULAR TIME, OVERTIME, REGULAR PAY, SUPPLEMENTAL PAY, ACCORDING TO THE MEAN AVERAGE IS $78,600. ANYBODY THAT EXCEEDS THAT LEVEL YOU WILL NEED TO STOP THEM AND DECIDE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO CONTINUE THEM. AND WE WOULD FILE WAIVERS WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY. NOW WORKING WITH -- THIS IS STILL PENDING OPTION OF TREASURY IF THEY ACTUALLY RECEIVE THE WAIVER OR NOT AND DETERMINE THE VALUE A SITUATION OF THE WAIVER IS TRUE OR NOT. IF THE DEPARTMENT TREASURY SAYS NO, THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY BACK EVERY CENT.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS AT THIS TIME FROM $10,000 TO

$100,000. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHAT IS THE SAFE AMOUNT TO NOT ANAY FOR THE WAIVERS.

>> 75,600. ELIMINATE HALF THE PEOPLE WE

ARE TALKING ABOUT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: FOR THIS YEAR. EXTEND IT TO NEXT YEAR.

>> IF THE PANDEMIC ENDS THIS YEAR.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE CAN'T PUT THE COUNTY IN A POSITION EITHER THAT WE HAVE TO PAY BACK HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS

OF DOLLARS FOR DOING IT WRONG. >> THEY SAID YOU FILE WAIVERS

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AND STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, THREE YOU WOULD HAVE TO FILE WAIVERS FOR.

THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND ANOTHER ISSUE ON AND ONCE EVERYBODY REACHES ABOVE THAT 76 7 6,600.

STAFF AND STAFF IN THE JAIL WORK A LOT OF OVERTIME AND COMPLETE SALARY -- IT HITS 70,600.

YOU MUST FILE A WAIVER. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: DALE, WHAT IS THE SAFE CALCULATION TO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THESE WAIVERS. AND I GET IT WE WILL HAVE TO KNOW WHAT IT IS BECAUSE I AM NOT WILLING TO RISK HAVING TO PAY BACK HUNDRED THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

>> NOT VERY MANY. FROM 10 TO 50.

HIGHER PERCENTAGE. IF YOU GO BACK AND PUT IN THAT $150,000 THRESHOLD. AND STOP THERE.

YOU WILL NEVER HAVE THAT ISSUE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SAY

THAT AGAIN? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: 25% WILL BE PRETTY SAFE. RAISE IT TO 25.

>> I CAN'T TELL YOU BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THEIR OVERTIME.

THE ENTIRE SALARY. WHATEVER SOURCE THEY GET IT FROM. WE WERE BASING OUR ASSUMPTION ON REGULAR SALARY, REGULAR T THIS.

AND HE SAID WITH THIS, MAYBE FIVE EMPLOYEES WOULD EXCEED THE

$78,600. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE VOTED THAT WE WOULD ACCEPT THAT AS OUR BURDEN.

>> HAGGERTY SAID THEY COULD FILE WAIVERS.

20%. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE

ACKNOWLEDGED IF IT DIDN'T PAY. >> IF YOU GO HIGHER THAN THIS, THEN YOU HAVE YOUR CAPTAINS AND TENANTS AND CHIEF DEPUTIES THAT WILL NOW HIRE. INSTEAD OF 5, YOU HAVE 20.

>>JUDGE CANALES: CORRECT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: DALE -- WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET TODAY AND MAYBE I DIDN'T ASK FOR IT CORRECTLY WAS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE AUD AUDITOR'S OFFICE WHAT WE CAN SAFELY DO TODAY.

IF YOU WERE SAYING YOU STILL DON'T KNOW, THEN WE HAVE TO PUT THIS OFF AGAIN BECAUSE I CAN'T MAKE A DECISION UNTIL YOU THE AUDITOR TELL US WHAT THE SAFE NUMBER IS TO GIVE THESE PEOPLE

WHAT WE NEED TO GIVE THEM. >> I WILL GIVE YOU A SAFE NUMBER, COMMISSIONER BUT I HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH OVERTIME THEY

ARE GOING TO WORK. >>JUDGE CANALES: COULD WE RUN

IT ON AVERAGES. >> PARDON.

>>JUDGE CANALES: RUN IT ON AVERAGE YEAR-OVER-YEAR LAST YEAR AND MAKE AN EDUCATED GU GUESS.

>> WHEN I WAS WORKING ON THE NUMBERS AND TALKING ABOUT RETRO PAY SEVERAL EMPLOYEES WERE WORKING 80 TO 100 HOURS

OVERTIME WEEKLY. >>JUDGE CANALES: I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION THAT MIGHT BE EASY THEIR WE COULD AT LEAST MAKE DECISIONS ON THAT IS STILL IN KEEPING WITH THE AGENDA I ITEM. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE ELECTED OFFICIALS. AND SO THE CONSTABLES AND THE SHERIFF WILL BE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE FINAL RULES FOR ARPA. SO MY QUESTION TO THE COURT, AND REALLY TO YOU IS, WHAT DOES THAT REPRESENT DOLLAR-WISE ON THEIR CURRENT 20% PREMIUM PAY BECAUSE THE COURT WILL ACKNOWLEDGE TREASURY CHANGES. BUT I DON'T NEED THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO ANSWER IT BECAUSE I WAS TOLD BY TREASURY IN THE ROOM, ELECT ARE NOT COVERED HOWEVER WE MIGHT THINK OF COVERING THEM. LET US THINK ABOUT IT.

THEY CAN CHANGE US A MIND AND GIVE US A FAQ, WITH YOU RIGHT NOW THEY ARE NOT COVERED. MY QUESTION IS, WHAT WILL THAT AMOUNT BE AND WILL THE COURT BE WILLING TO JUST GO AHEAD AND

SAY WE WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT. >> AROUND 40,000.

COULD BE PLUS OR MINUS. BASED ON THEIR SALARIES.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK WE ALREADY MADE A MOTION TO PUT THAT IN THERE BEFORE. SO WE WOULD HAVE -- TO UN DO IT WOULD YOU HAVE TO RESCIND. I THINK THE POINT IS, WE ALREADY MADE THAT DECISION ACHED ACKNOWLEDGED THERE MIGHT BE AN ISSUE WITH THE ELECTED CONSTABLE AND SHERIFF.

>> DO YOU THINK THE COURT ALREADY ACCEPTED THE BURDEN.

I AM OKAY WITH MAKING THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE BURDEN OF THE 40,000 BECAUSE WE CAN NOT PUT THEIR PREMIUM PAY.

IN OTHER WORDS, THEY CAN'T GET PREMIUM PAY.

MAYBE YOU ARE RIGHT. MAYBE WILL HAVE TO BE A RECISION AND AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT GIVING THE CONSTABLES AND SHERIFF -- I DON'T KNOW THAT HE IS ACCEPTING IT.

JUST THE 40,000. JUST THE 20% ADJUSTMENTS IN P

PAY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SORRY.

BUT I THINK THAT WAS DISCUSSED BEFORE WITH THE ELECTED, RIGHT,

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DALE, WITH POSSIBLE BURDEN ON THIS?

>>JUDGE CANALES: NO. >> I BELIEVE WHEN THIS CAME UP.

ELECTED OFFICIALS CAME UP AND COMMISSIONERS COURT TOOK ACTION ON JUST THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS SHERIFF AND CONSTABLES WITH AN INTENT THAT WE WILL REQUIRE TO SUBMIT A LET THAT THEY ACCEPT AND DENY AND ALL FIVE CONS CONSTABLES AND SHERIFFS SAID THEY ACCEPTED THE PREMIUM PAY BECAUSE WE KNEW AN ISSUE, A POSSIBILITY OF SALARY BECAUSE OF HOW THEY DO THE BUDGETING AND HOW THE TAX CODE AND OTHER CODES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ON THE BUDGET SIDE OF WHAT THE SALARY IS FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIAL. THIS IS ALL COMING AS PREMIUM

PAY FROM ARPA FUNDS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK WHAT HE IS SAYING WE DISCUSSED IT AND ALREADY DONE

IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I HEARD DIFFERENTLY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT PAYING THE ELECTED WITH ARPA FUNDS.

RIGHT NOW, OUR MOTION IS TO PAY PREMIUM PAY TO ELECTED.

AND WHAT I AM SAYING TO YOU, WE CAN NOT PAY ELECTEDS WITH ARPA, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO TAKE THAT SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY, 40,000, AND JUST DECLARE THAT WE WILL GIVE THEM THAT 20%.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HOWEVER WE NEED TO DO IT.

I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANYTHING BACK THAT WE HAVE ALREADY DONE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: YOU KNOW WHAT, HERE COMES -- HERE COMES ONE OF OUR HAGGERTY -- IT IS SETH.

SETH, GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE. I BET YOU HAVE SOMETHING WORKING HERE. GO AHEAD.

>> HEY, FOLKS, SETH HAYNES FROM HAGGERTY.

CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME ALL RI RIGHT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE SURE CAN. >> LET ME INTERJECT OF PREMIUM PAY FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS. WE SHARED GUIDANCE AFTER THE HAGGERTY TEAM WAS APPROACHED WITH THIS QUESTION.

SO WE KIND OF HUDDLED AS A TEAM AND DISCUSSED IT AND REVIEWED THE APPLICABLE GUIDANCE BY TREASURY.

THE FINAL RULE THAT CAME OUT EARLY JANUARY DID PROVIDE ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE SAYING THAT ESSENTIALLY TO ELECTED OFFICIALS BY AND LARGE ARE NOT ELGIBLE TO RECEIVE PREMIUM PAY AND REALLY COMES DOWN TO A FACTUAL A ANALYSIS.

AND WHEN PEOPLE HAVE FINANCIAL OR BUDGET AUTHORITY OVER THE STATE AND LOCAL RECOVERY FUNDS AS COVERED BY ARPA, THAT ELECTED OFFICIAL IN ALL LIKELIHOOD WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE PREMIUM P PAY.

HOWEVER, AN ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT DOESN'T HAVE DIRECT CONTROL OVER THESE FUNDS, WILL HINGE ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS WHICH WILL DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THIS POSITION, AS I SAID, HAD ANY AUTHORITIES OVER THESE FUNDS AND ENRICH THEMSELVES THROUGH APPROPRIATING MONEY THROUGH THEIR OWN POSITION.

WHILE THE FINAL RULE DID KIND OF BRING SOME ADDITIONAL CLARITY, THEY ALSO MUDDIED THE WATERS A LITTLE BIT AS YOU KIND OF GET FURTHER AND FURTHER AWAY FROM FINANCIAL AUTHORITY OVER THESE FUNDS IN TERMS OF ELECTED OFFICIALS.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS WHAT EXACTLY? BASED ON THESE NEW.

>> I DON'T REALLY WANT TO PROVIDE A DIRECT RECOMMENDATION SINCE YOU FOLKS ARE KIND OF THE DIRECT ADMINISTRATORS OF THESE FUNDS. THAT IS SOMETHING I PREFER TO LEAVE TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT.

NOW THE MORE CONSERVATIVE -- WHAT I WILL SAY IS THE REAL CONSERVATIVE COURSE OF ACTION IS NOT TO EXTEND PREMIUM PAY TO OFFICIALS. I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD YOU FOLKS AND SAY A HARD NO IN THE FINAL RULE.

THE FINAL RULE DOES NOT COME DOWN AND SAY ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL IS FORBIDDEN. NOT QUITE THAT CLEAR CUT.

>> WE WILL SKIP WITH WHAT WE HAVE DONE.

>> ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE TAKE IT OVER AND THE JUSTIFICATION IS A FACT ISSUE AND TOLD ME IN TREASURY THAT DAY WAS THAT, LOOK, MAJOR JUSTIFICATION, BUT A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE DISCONNECT OF HOW TREASURY. THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT A CONSTABLE DOES OR A SHERIFF DOES AND THAT INTERACTION.

I THINK THAT AS LONG AS THE COURT PUTS ON THE RECORD THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT AND THE EXPOSURE IS 40

THOUSAND, I THINK WE ARE FINE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE HAVE MORE THAN DONE THAT TODAY. BUT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A ANOTHER MOTION, JUDGE, WE CAN DO THAT TOO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: AS LONG AS WE ARE ACKNOWLEDGING A POINT OF

ACTION. >> AT THIS POINT IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A HARD KNOW. OUR POINT THAT WILL BE ABLE TO RECOUP IT AS ARPA FUNDS AND IF NOT, WE WILL HAVE BY THIS DISCUSSION AND MANY OTHERS WILLING TO ABSORB THAT IF WE HAVE TO BECAUSE THAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

I THINK. AND THEN I GUESS, DALE, I AM BACK TO MY QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE A DECISION ON OTHER PERCENTAGES. AND I JUST CAN'T GUESS ON WHAT

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IT WILL BE AND THE JUDGE SAID WE CAN USE AVERAGES.

SOME WAY TO MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION AND AVERAGES ARE A SOLID START FOR ME. AND I AM WILLING TO PUSH THIS BACK AGAIN. AND I HATE TO KEEP DOING IT.

BUT IF WE -- IF WE KEEP PUSH THIS BACK AND MAKE A DECISION IN MARCH, THAT STILL -- THAT IS NOT CONSIDERED RETRO PAY, RIGHT? THAT IS CONSIDERED.

BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO NOT BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THIS OCTOBER TIME FRAME WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE AROUND.

WE ARE NOT CALLING THIS RETRO. WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF

WE ARE DOING IT RIGHT, RIGHT? >> MADE YOUR FIRST PAYMENT OF 20% TO LAW ENFORCEMENT STARTING AT THE END OF DECEMBER.

SO WE WOULDN'T GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO OCTOBER BUT DECEMBER,

AND WOULD COUNT THEIR TIME. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK WE COULD GO BACK TO WHEREVER WE START THIS AMOUNT.

I THINK THAT IS WHAT FRANCISCO SAID WE COULD DO TOO AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH.

>> SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>>JUDGE CANALES: HOW ABOUT WE PASS ON THIS ONE FOR THE MO

[9. Discuss and consider approving payment of annual merit increase for Health District employees; discuss and consider directing payment.]

MOMENT. >> WE PROBABLY NEED DALE IN

EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THIS ONE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S FINE.

I WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 9.

ITEM NUMBER 9 IS THE ANNUAL MERIT INCREASE FOR HEALTH DISTRICT EMPLOYEES AND AGAIN WE DEALT WITH THIS ONE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH OUR EMPLOYMENT EXPERT.

AND WE DON'T DO THIS. THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI D DOES, BUT I AM HAPPY TO HEAR YOUR EXPLANATION, FRANCISCO.

I DON'T SEE HOW WE INTERFERE AT ALL ON THIS.

THIS IS A CITY DECISION AND ALL WE DO IS JUST ACKNOWLEDGE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: ISN'T IT MOOT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK SO IT IS.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IT IS MOOT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT AT THE HEALTH DISTRICTS. THEY ARE NOT COUNTY EMPLOYEES ANYMORE. THEY ARE NOT OUR EMPLOYEES.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK THE QUESTION IS ARE THEY OWED

ANYTHING IN THE PAST. >> BASED ON THE DATE OF HIRE.

DEPENDING ON WHERE THE DATE OF HIRE.

THEY MAY GET A SMALL INCREASE OF SALARY WITH DATE OF HIRE.

COULD BE A SMALL INCREASE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WOULD JUST

LET THE CITY HANDLE IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE

WILL PASS ON THIS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: CITY

SHOULD BE THE ONE TO DETERMINE. >>JUDGE CANALES: UNLESS THEY ARE ASKING US. ARE THEY ASKING US? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY ARE. I THINK -- HOLD ON, JULIE, WOULD YOU HAVE INFORMATION TO REVEAL?

>> YES, THESE EMPLOYEES GET A 2.5% OR 5% INCREASE ON THEIR ANNIVERSARY DATE. SO GOING BACK TO OCTOBER 1.

SO SOME OF THEM HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED IT.

BUT SEVEN OF THEM THAT HAVE NOT RECEIVED IT.

THEY ARE DUE TO INCREASE THROUGH FEBRUARY 28.

>> ARE YOU LOOKING TO A DIRECTIVE.

DALE, A ISSUE FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE SINCE YOU ARE THE

ONES THAT ISSUE THESE CHECKS. >> PROPOSED INCREASES.

WE HAVE NOT INCREASED SALARY FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS FROM OCTOBER TO FEBRUARY 28, THERE CAN BE A SMALL INCREASE IN -- IN HOURLY RATES FOR THESE EMPLOYEES WHICH COULD MEAN THERE IS A LIABLE OF WAGES TO BE PAID.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: TIME OUT.

THESE ARE NOT ANNIVERSARY RA RATES.

THE CITY TOLD ME MERIT INCREASES THAT WERE BASED ON SOME THING THAT THEY GO THR THROUGH.

THESE ARE PERFORMANCE-BASED THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT AND I KNOW IT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOREVER.

THESE ARE NOT ANNIVERSARY INCREASES BUT MERIT INCREASES.

>> IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY DISCIPLINARY ACTION TAKEN IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR, ON THE ANNIVERSARY DATE, THEY WILL

HAVE A 2.5% INCREASE. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST FOR YOU KNOW, BIFURCATION. YOU ARE RIGHT ON SOME AND NOT

RIGHT ON OTHERS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, HOLD ON. THE ONLY THING POSTED TODAY ARE THE MERIT INCREASES. WE DID NOT HAVE ANY POSTING FOR THIS 2.5% THING BECAUSE THIS IS NOT WHAT I BROUGHT UP AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF I PUT THIS ON OR COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ IT ON.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IN THE 2.5%.

WE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE THIS MERIT STUFF THAT WE LEARNED ABOUT THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW WAS GOING ON.

THE ONLY THING POSTED TODAY ARE THE MERIT INCREASES.

THOSE ARE WHAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THOSE ARE THE ONES IN QUESTION.

>> ONE OF THE SAME. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NOT

WHAT THEY EXPLAINED TO ME. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS NOT WHAT TANYA WEBER DISCUSSED WITH US.

JUST SO WE KNOW. JULIE, ISN'T IT ACCURATE THAT THERE ARE -- IT IS AN AUTOMATIC MERIT INCREASE.

2.5% UNLESS THEY HAVE BEEN DISCIPLINED.

>> CORRECT. >>JUDGE CANALES: AUTOMATIC AND DATES BACK TO THE ANNIVERSARY. THE REASON IT IS ON THE AGENDA

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IS BECAUSE THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE HAVE NOT RELEASED THAT PAYMENT AND WE NEED A ACTION TO DIRECT THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE TO RELEASE THAT PAYMENT. THERE ARE SOME EMPLOYEES THAT HAD ELIGIBILITY BASED ON EXEMPT STATUS FOR MERIT.

AND BY THE WAY, NOT AN AUTOMATIC FIVE.

IT IS UP TO FIVE. >> CORRECT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THE CITY MAKES THEIR OWN DETERMINATION WHAT THAT NUMBER IS AND THAT IS ALSO BEING HELD UP.

>> CORRECT. >>JUDGE CANALES: SO I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE DISCONNECT IS. THE REASON IT IS ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT IS OUR OFFICE HOLDING UP WHAT THEY ARE ENTITLED TO. AND WE DON'T DECIDE WHAT THEY ARE ENTITLED TO AND WE ARE HOLDING UP THEIR PAYROLL AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO DIRECT THE AUDITOR TO RELEASE THOSE FUNDS AS DIRECTED BY THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI.

>> EVERYTHING YOU SAID IS CORRECT, JUDGE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YOU ARE TELLING ME YOU DON'T KNOW OF THE MERITS SYSTEM IN PLACE THAT THE CITY EXPLAINED TO ME HAD TO BE DONE. THAT IT WASN'T AUTOMATIC.

THAT TO GET THIS 5% RAISE, THEY HAD TO BE EVALUATED AND SCORED

-- ARE YOU TELLING -- >> AND THEY HAVE.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NONE OF THEM WERE SIGNED.

THE FORMS WE GOT WEREN'T SIGNED.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: DIFFERENT THAN THE 2.5%.

THAT IS WHAT THE DISCONNECT IS, JUDGE.

TWO SEPARATE THINGS. >> TWO SEPARATE CATEGORIES,

COMMISSIONERS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: EX

EXACTLY. >> NON -- NONEXEMPT EMPLOYEES

AND EXEMPT EMPLOYEES. >> ONLY POSTED FOR THE 5% MERIT

RANGE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: I POSTED IT AND IT WAS NOT THE INVENTION. TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THESE PEOPLE WHOSE PAYROLL IS HELD UP DOES NOT GET HELD UP.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NOT POSTED WRONG.

MERITED IS NOT AN AUTOMATIC ANNIVERSARY INCREASE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: LET ME SAY THIS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE WORD MAY MEAN THAT BUT HOW IT WAS PRESENTED ON ALL OF THE AGE AGENDAS.

ALL WE DID WAS FOLLOW THE SAME LANGUAGE AND JULIE WAS HERE TO TESTIFY AS THE HR THAT IS EX EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, THE TWO AND A HALF PERCENT. IF IT NEEDS TO COME BACK ON THE 16TH FOR YOUR BUSINESS, THAT IS FINE.

BUT I AM TELLING YOU THAT WE FOLLOWED THE EXACT VERBATIM LANGUAGE THAT THE CITY USES TO DESCRIBE THE 2.5%.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, I AM TELLING YOU BECAUSE I BELIEVE YOU DID NOT PUT THIS ON ORIGINALLY.

I BELIEVE ONE -- MYSELF OR COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ DID.

>> IT WAS COMMISSIONER GON GONZALEZ.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IT WAS PUT ON BECAUSE ITS 5% PORTION WAS THE PART THAT HEARTBURN WAS HAD WITH.

THE AUTOMATIC 2.5%. I NEVER EVEN HAD A -- HEARTBURN ABOUT THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHO HELD THAT PART UP BECAUSE -- IF THAT IS AN ANNIVERSARY THING THAT IS A

COMPLETELY -- >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY --

CHE >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: -- YOU LET ME FINISH. THAT IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CATEGORY. ONLY THING I HAD HEARTBURN WAS THE 5 FERRARI. HOW THIS IS POSTED.

IF THE AUDITOR HELD THAT STUFF UP TO FOR THE 2.5%.

THEN I DON'T KNOW WHY THE AUDITOR HELD THAT UP.

I AM NOT CRITICIZING. HE MAY THOUGHT HE NEEDED TO BECAUSE WE WERE ASKING OF THIS 5%.

I DON'T CARE -- I DON'T HAVE ANY COMPLAINT OF THE AUTOMATIC ANNIVERSARY THING. MY ISSUE IS WITH THE MERIT INCREASE OF WHICH I DO NOT AGREE SHOULD HAPPEN IN THE WAY THAT IT HAS HAPPENED. IF YOU WANT TO SEVER OUT THE

2.5%. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WOULD LOVE TO SEVER IT. LET'S HELP AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE

CAN TODAY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NOBODY

PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE 2.5%.

>>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S TAKE THE 2.5%.

VERY CLEAR TO THE COURT MANAGER.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NOT EVEN ON THE AGENDA.

>>JUDGE CANALES: HE SAYS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

SEES NO DISCREPANCY. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE 2 2.5%. ON THE AGENDA NOW AND BIIF YOU WERE KATEED IT AND HAPPY TO DISCUSS IT AGAIN IF WE NEED TO, BUT THAT 5% IS UP TO 5% AND NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYONE NEAR OUR COMMUNITY OF COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER.

IT IS UP TO THE CITY AND THE CITY POLICY AND ALL WE DO IS PAY WHAT THE CITY TELLS US TO PAY.

THAT IS ALL WE ARE SAYING IF THE CITY GIVES THE DIRECTION TO THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY AUDITOR NEEDS TO FOLLOW THAT DIRECTION.

WE DO NOT SAY HOW THEY DO THEIR MERIT.

WE FOLLOW THE CITY'S POLICIES AND WE --

>> ACCORDING TO THE AGREEMENT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ALL WE DO IS LET OUR TAWD FOR PAY FOR IT.

I AM ASKING YOU WHAT THE CONCERN IS OF FOLLOWING THE

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CITY POLICIES. WE MADE A COMMITMENT NOW TO FOLLOW CITY POLICIES AS OF MARCH 1.

AND WE HAD A COMMITMENT THEN TO FOLLOW CITY POLICIES.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: TALKING ABOUT 2.5% TO 5%.

>> FOUR EMPLOYEES -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: EXCUSE MY, JULIE -- THE CITY -- AND YOU HAVE A COPY OF THIS.

SENT A LETTER SAYING BASED ON WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT, THOSE PEOPLE DID NOT QUALIFY FOR THE 5%.

YOU GOT A COPY AND I GOT A COPY THAT IT WAS NEVER SIGNED -- NO

SIGNED COPY ON THERE. >> SORRY.

I DON'T KNOW WHICH DOCUMENT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHOEVER HAD THE 5%.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THERE WERE.

>> FOUR EMPLOYEES IN QUESTION. AND THEY ARE EXEMPT EMPLOYEES.

AND THE POLICY THAT WE ALWAYS FOLLOWED IS IN THE PREVIOUS DEPARTMENT WITH THE HEALTH DISTRICT, WHATEVER WE PAY -- WE PAY ACCORDING TO WHAT THE CITY PAYS.

AND THIS YEAR THE CITY DECIDED TO PAY.

>> THE CITY SAID NO THIS YEAR. >> THEY PAID UP TO 5% THIS

YEAR. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THEY SAID NO. THEY DIDN'T THINK THEY

QUALIFIED FOR IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DOCUMENT IS. I HAVE A SUGGESTION --

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE 2.5%.

IS THIS ON THE AGENDA OR SET IT UP FOR NEXT MEETING.

>> WE NEED TO PAY THESE PEOPLE OUT WHO HAVE SEPARATED.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL ASK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WHO IS SITTING THE CHAIR TO TAKE THIS TO EXECUTIVE SESSION OR PLEASE PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE BECAUSE THIS IS -- THIS IS A RECURRING THEME THAT WE ALREADY DISC DISCUSSEDED A NEWS THAT YUCHL AND WE NEED TO GET YOU GUYS TO SPEAK SO WE HAVE SOME CLARITY HERE. IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING FROM THE LAST EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT ADVICE THAT THE CITY MAKES THE DETERMINATION AND WE PAY OUR EMPLOYEES.

THAT'S IT. IF YOU CAN PROVIDE MORE CLA CLARITY, IT WOULD BE GREAT. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ HAS A DOCUMENT. I WILL SAY PLEASE GET IT.

GET CLARITY FROM THE CITY AND GIVE IT TO THE AUDITOR.

THESE PEOPLE'S CHECKS NEED TO BE PAID AND THAT IS WHAT IS BEING HELD UP RIGHT NOW. ALL WE ARE LOOKING FOR A CLARITY. CLARITY FROM THE CITY.

WE DON'T DECIDE. THEY DO.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I NEVER KNEW ABOUT THE 2.5%.

WE SHOULD HAVE PAID IT, WE SHOULD HAVE PAID IT.

JUDGE >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST SO YOU KNOW. HELD UP NOR HOW MANY MONTHS.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I DON'T KNOW WHY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ASKING JULIE. >> SINCE JANUARY 1.

WE OWE THEM FOR JANUARY AND FEBRUARY AND OF COURSE THEY SEPARATED ON FEBRUARY 28, SO NOT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE ANY

LONGER. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST JANUARY

AND FEBRUARY -- >> THE 5%, COMMISSIONER.

>>JUDGE CANALES: JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE DON'T FOE IF THE FOUR

GOT 5%. >> THEY ALL DID.

>>JUDGE CANALES: MAKES IT E EASY.

THAT 5%. THE CITY MADE THAT DETERMINE

NATION. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU

HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY THAT. >> IT IN THEIR POLICY,

COMMISSIONER, THAT THEY WERE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU HAVE THE PAPERWORK. HE IS MORE OR LESS ASKING IF YOU HAVE THE PAPERWORK THAT SHOWCASES THE 5%.

>> WHAT THEY SEND ME IS A COVER LETTER THAT STATES THEY ARE ELIGIBLE AND SIGNED OFF BY THEIR SUPERVISOR AND RECEIVE

THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS. >>JUDGE CANALES: ANY WAY TO PROVIDE ALL OF THAT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

>> I HAVE. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT SAY YOU.

>> SOMETHING WE SHOULD TAKE TO EXECUTIVE AND SOME PARTS I WOULD LIKE TO PLACE ON THE RECORD.

PURSUANT TO THE PREVIOUS REFORMATION AGREEMENT, THERE WAS A SECTION IN IT, SECTION 7 OF THE MOU THAT TALKS ABOUT ADOPTING THE HR POLICIES OF THE CITY.

TO ADOPT HR 4.0. NOW WITH RESPECT TO -- SEEING THAT ACTUAL POLICY. WE DON'T HAVE IT.

BUT WE -- I BELIEVE PERHAPS THE AUDITOR MAY HAVE THOUGHT.

SO TO -- TO AN EXTENT WE HAVE ADOPTED THE HR POLICIES THAT

THE CITY HAS ADOPTED. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY.

AND I THINK ALL THEY ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR IS A LETTER FROM THE CITY THAT SAYS WHERE YOU WHERE YOU.

WE CONCUR. THESE FOUR EMPLOYEES GET INCENTIVES AND DALE CAN RELEASE THE CHECK.

>> I HAVE THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION AND THE SIGN-OFF

SHEET FROM THE DEPARTMENT. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE CAN TAKE IT TO EXECUTIVE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.

AGAIN, ALL WE ARE LOOKING FOR IS TO TAKE CARE OF THESE PEOPLE WHO EARNED AND DESERVED THIS HR CITY POLICY MERIT INCREASE.

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>> YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY.

A CITY THING CITY POLICY. OKAY, I GUESS WE WILL SKIP THIS ONE TOO AND COME BACK. THERE IS NO ACCRUAL OF OVERTIME AT THIS TIME, DALE. I DON'T --

>> NO, YOUR HONOR. >>JUDGE CANALES: NEED TO PASS

ON 10. >> YOU NEED TO DECIDE WHETHER TO CONTINUE. ALWAYS PART OF -- WE SAY NO

OVERTIME -- >>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS ANY -- ANY -- ANY ISSUES FORECASTED, BUT I WILL YIELD TO THE COURT ON T THIS.

COURT? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL PASS ON IT.

DALE. ALL RIGHT.

[1. Receive a presentation from Turner Ramirez Architects for the planned renovations at the Calderon Building.]

LET'S SEE. IS JUAN IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY?

>> NO, JUDGE, HE ASKED ME TO TABLE THIS ITEM, PLEASE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: HE ASKED YOU TO TABLE IT.

I NEED A MOTION THOUGH. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SO

MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AND A

SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY:

SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL NOSE FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED SAME TIME.

WE WILL TABLE TO MARCH 16. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHAT

NUMBER ARE YOU TABLING? >>JUDGE CANALES: B-1.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE TOOK THE VOTE ON 10?

>> NO ACTION, COMMISSIONER. I ACTUALLY JUST SAID ITEM NUMBER 10, NO ACCRUAL OF OVERTIME AND TABLING IS B 1.

THE NEXT ONE WAS B-1. 9, WE SAID WE WILL TAKE IT UP

IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, KARA. >> I UNDERSTAND.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: USE

YOUR MIC. >> FOR CLARIFICATION READ -- YOU SAY B 1, B 2, B 3. IF YOU COULD READ THE ITEM,

JUDGE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MAKE MOTION TO TABLE THE PRESENTATION OF TURNER RAMIREZ ARCHITECTS FOR THE PLANNED RENOVATION OF THE CALDERON

[1. Discuss and consider selection of RFP No. 3162-21 Grant Administration and Project Management Services Federal RESTORE Act Allocation.]

BUILDING. A SECOND.

>> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. PURCHASING IS NEXT AND MICHAEL IS HERE AND HAS A RFP, THE GRANT ADMINISTRATION AND GRANT PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICE. THE FEDERAL RESTORE ACT ALLOCATION. SCOTT LEFT.

IF YOU WILL OUTLINE FOR US -- >> SURE, I WILL COVER ALL THAT.

SO THIS IS THE -- THIS IS THE GRANT ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE FEDERAL RESTORE ACT ALLOCATION. WE CONDUCTED A PROPOSAL OPENING ON FEBRUARY 9. THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE ARE JUDGE CANALES, HERNANDEZ, GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR MARIA PADILLA AND THE PURCHASING AGENT MYSELF AND ADVISED BY SCOTT CROSS, OUR COASTAL PARKS DIRECTOR.

WE RECEIVED FIVE PROPOSALS. THE -- THE COMMITTEE MET ON FEBRUARY 17 TO CONDUCT OUR EVALUATION.

THESE WERE IN ACCORDANCE TO THE SELECTION CRITERIA.

THE CRITERIA INCLUDED WORK PERFORMANCE CAPACITY TO REFORM AND PROPOSED COST. THE COMMITTEE SCORED GRANT WORKS INC. WITH THE HIGHER OVERALL SCORE.

THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS GRANT WORKS INCORPORATED FOR

ADDITIONAL SELECTION. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SO

MOVED. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CAN

YOU EXPLAIN FOR THE PUBLIC. >> THIS IS FOR THE RESTORE ACT AS A LARGE SUM OF MONEY THAT I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE AN UPDATE FROM SCOTT CROSS THIS WEEK THAT WE FINALLY GOT APPROVAL FROM AND WE HAVE WORK TO DO TO FINALIZE THAT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: CORRECT. >> THAT CONTRACT.

AND THIS GRANT ADMINISTRATIVE PERSON TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO

TO DO SUBMITTALS. >>JUDGE CANALES: SCOTT IS H

HERE. >> FOR GRANT ADMIN.

THEY WILL COORDINATED WITH AUDITOR'S OFFICE FOR MILE MILESTONES, DELIVERABLES. A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING TO GET TO THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT. MORE SO THINK THAT KNOW I CAN KEEP UP WITH AND MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY IN COMPLIANCE AND WE

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ARE AUDIT PROOF AS A SUB GR GRANTEE AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOR. EXCUSE ME IT IS BUDGETED IN THE GRANT. MONEY IN THE GRANT THAT HAS ALREADY DESIGNATED FOR THIS; HOWEVER, ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON THIS. THIS IS REAL TIMELY AND WE GOT THE CONTRACT YESTERDAY FOR BUCKET 1 AND BUCKET 2.

>>JUDGE CANALES: BUCKET 1 AND BUCKET 3.

>> SORRY, BUCKET 1 AND BUCKET 3.

WE SAID THIS FOR YEARS THIS IS A REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM.

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SEND YOU $7.5 MILLION AND PUT IT IN YOUR COFFERS. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE OUR DUCKS IN A ROW. THIS WILL HELP SEEK

REIMBURSEMENT EVERY 30 DAYS. >> JUST SO WE ARE CLEAR SINCE THE ISSUES COME UP. GRANT ADMINISTRATOR ALSO CHARGE US DOLLARS AND USE THE MONEY INSIDE THE GRANT THAT IS PERMITTED AND ALLOWED AND FOLLOW TO SEE IF OUR PROCUREMENT. AND WE WILL SUBMIT THOSE BILLS.

WE WILL BE PAYING THESE FOLKS FOR DOING THE GOOD WORK THAT WILL GET US THE BIG DOLLARS. AND THAT COMES WITH FROM A REIMBURSEMENT. JUST LIKE IT DOES FOR ANY FEDERAL GRANT INCLUDING THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT.

THE SAME PROCESS AND THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE COMM

COMMITTEE. >> BOTH YOUR ARPA AND RESTORE,

THEY COME OUT OF TREASURY. >> I WANT TO TELL EVERYBODY

THAT IT IS THE AIM SAME -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SCOTT,

DO WE HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE. >> NO, WE DON'T.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HOW CAN DO YOU THAT.

>> ONCE WE GET THE CONTRACT. WE CAN COLLECT RIGHT NOW.

DON'T HAVE NOTICE TO PROCEED JUST YET.

WE GET THE CONTRACT AND -- ONCE THE CONTRACT EXECUTED WITH TCU, EVERYTHING WE DO AFTER THAT IS REIMBURSEMENT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL SPEND AND SUBMIT.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: GRANT WORKS WILL BE ADMINISTRATOR, BUT WON'T BE STARTING NOW, RIGHT?

>>JUDGE CANALES: YES. >> IF WE PULL THE TRIGGER ON THEM NOW, THE POSSIBILITY THAT ANY WORK THEY DO PRIOR TO THE CONTRACT BEING EXECUTED MAY NOT BE ELIGIBLE.

I WILL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT.

AND I TELL YOU WHAT, IF I HAVE A SMALL AMOUNT TO OFFSET AND I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PAY FOR IT OUT OF OUR OWN OPERATING

BUDGET. >>JUDGE CANALES: AGAIN, WHAT HE IS SAYING FOR THIS $7.5 MILLION GRANT.

OKAY. SO RECOMMENDATION BY THE

COMMITTEE, MICHAEL. >> THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS GRANT WORKS INC. FOR CONDITIONAL SELECTION.

AND THIS MIGHT BE A NEW TERM FOR YOU ALL TO HEAR.

BUT WHAT THAT MEANS IS UPON APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL SELECTION, PURCHASE ALSO THEN WORK WITH GRANT WORKS TO COME BACK AND PRESENT CONTRACT DOCUMENTS FOR APPROVAL OF AWARD

AND EXECUTION OF THE CONTRACT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SO

MOVED. >> SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HE BEAT ME.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING EYE.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MAKE SURE THE CONDITIONAL LANGUAGE IS IN THE MOTION. WE DIDN'T STATE IS IT VERY

WELL. >> LISTED IN THE AGENDA

LANGUAGE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SHE WANTS US TO BE MORE CLEAR. I GET IT.

[1. Discuss and consider revising the Grants Administrator job description and setting a date for interviews.]

WE GO PRETTY FAST SOMETIMES. >>JUDGE CANALES: AT THIS TIME, I WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM D 1 WHICH IS HUMAN RESOURCES DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REVISING THE GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR POSITION AND LOOKING AT AURICLE LANDER AND SETTING DATES FOR INTERVIEWS. WE SAID THAT MARIA PADILLA HAS MOVED ON TO ANOTHER POLITICAL POSITION.

SO WE NEED A GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR TO TAKE THAT TO HAVE THAT BE SELECTED. JULIE, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT FOR BOTH ITEMS THE CALENDAR AS WELL AS THE DESCRIPTION.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY REVISIONS -- I AM NOT RECOMMENDING ANY REVISIONS TO THE GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR JOB DESCRIPTION, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS JOB POSTED ASAP.

AND -- >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT ARE YOU THINKING YOU WOULD POST OR HOW LONG --

>> OUR POLICY STATES FOR SEVEN DAYS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WELL, I THINK FOR GRANTS, WE NEED AT LEAST

TWO WEEKS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: AGREE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ON THE CALENDAR WOULD YOU SUGGEST THE FOLLOWING WEEK FOR INTERVIEWS IF WE WERE TO DO THAT.

>> THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHAT IS THE AMOUNT WE ARE PAYING HERE?

>>JUDGE CANALES: THE CURRENT GRANTS DIRECTOR.

>> I AM THINKING ABOUT $80,000. I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER IN

FRONT OF ME. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WANT TO DAY $78,000. THAT IS CLOSE.

>> MAY BE A LITTLE LOWER. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU CAN TEXT.

AT ANY RATE, IS THERE A MOTION FOR A TWO-WEEK POSTING?

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>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER LITTLE BIT MORE FOR -- ONLY TWO PEOPLE IN THAT OFFICE AND THEY DO A LOT OF WORK, YOU KNOW. I AM THINKING IT SHOULD BE AT

LEAST -- MAYBE, 85, -- >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WORK ON A PAY SCALE. ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER? WE HAVE TO HAVE A NUMBER

ASSOCIATED WITH IT. >> WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS THAT

GETS US THERE. >> $85,000?

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CAN I --

>>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER CHESNEY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: GO AHEAD, CHESNEY.ON

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SINCE WE CHANGED OUR STRUCTURE ADD LANGUAGE THAT THE GRANT ADMINISTRATOR WILL REPORT TO THE COUNTY MANAGER AS OTHER APPOINTED DEPARTMENT HEADS

WOULD. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK ALL

DEPARTMENT HEADS DO NOW. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NOT IN

HERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: IN OTHER WORDS, CHANGE IT TO THE DESCRIPTION.

IF YOU WILL MAKE THAT REVISION. THAT REFLECTS CURRENT POLICY.

WE DON'T -- >> I THINK IT IS FAIR TO TELL PEOPLE WHO THEY WILL BE REPORTING TO WHEN THEY ARE APPLYING. THE REST OF IT LOOKED FINE TO ME. THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I HAD.

COULDN'T COME UP WITH ANYTHING ELSE.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE COURT HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT

OPINION. >>JUDGE CANALES: PENDING THAT DECISION SUPPLEMENT THAT RESTATES OUR OWN POLICIES, JULIA, I THINK YOU HAVE YOUR MARCHING ORDER.

>> WHAT IS THE LEVEL ON THAT? >> THE LEVEL? I WILL HAVE TO GET THE PAY GROUP ON IT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IF WE ARE DOING THAT.

IS THAT A GENERAL -- THAT WOULD REQUIRE A MOTION FOR A BUDGET CHANGE IF THAT IS WHAT THE COURT DESIRES.

BY KNOW THAT WOULD BE IN K KEEPING WITH TAKING CARE OF THE

-- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THE QUESTION IS, JUDGE, DO WE LOOK AT A THIRD PERSON.

I AM NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T PAY MORE, BUT IF WE DON'T FEEL

-- >>JUDGE CANALES: USUALLY DOING

THAT DURING BUDGET. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: BECAUSE THIS CAME UP, I AM JUST RESPONDING THE COMMISSIONER'S

COMMENTS ABOUT THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: WELL, IF YOU TAKE -- IF YOU TAKE THE CURRENT --

>> THE SKAP GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR PAY GROUP IS $

$73,403. >>JUDGE CANALES: PLUS THE 10%

PREMIUM PAY. >> THEY WOULD ONLY GET UP TO

$78,000. >>JUDGE CANALES: THEY WILL MAKE $78,000. IF THAT IS THE WILL OF THE COURT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NOTICED IT CORRECTLY, FRANCISCO, FOR THAT CHANGE BUT I SUPPOSE YOU CAN MAKE A LIBERAL INTERPRETATION OF THE JOBS DESCRIPTION AND MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT THE PAY INCREASE IS PART OF THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS A MOTION YOU ARE MAKING OR NOT.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I WILL MAKE A MOTION.

>> CAN I RECOMMEND TO THE COMMISSIONER WE CAN WAIT UNTIL

BUDGET INCREASE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NO, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE GO AHEAD AND CONSIDER THAT

INCREASE TO $85,000. >> SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: 85,000.

>> WE PAY $73,000. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WELL

-- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: 73

PLUS THE 10%. >>JUDGE CANALES: 78 AND GO TO

THE MAX. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE CAN GO HIGHER THAN THAT IN BUDGET TIME?

>> THE BUDGET POSITION FOR THIS PARTICULAR SALARY POSITION THE PAY GROUP 34. 34 STEP ONE $73,403.

ADD THE 10%. 73,340.

SO ADD THOSE ON TOP AND WILL BE CLOSE TO $80,000.

AND INCLUDE EVERYTHING AND SOMETHING COMES IN BRAND-NEW.

THAT'S WHERE WE START. >> CAN WE GET A PAY RAISE TO THIS POSITION OVER THE LAST BUDGET.

>> NO. >> THE PAY GROUP FOR 84,822 IS

A PAY GROUP 37. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS YOUR

MOTION, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. >> TO MOVE IT TO A PAY GROUP

37. >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER

CHESNEY. >> PAY GRADE 37.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: GOES TO WHAT.

>> $84,322. >> I AM NOT SECONDING THAT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: YOU ARE NOT SECONDING THAT.

$73 TO $84? >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I WILL

SECOND IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THEY

WILL GET 84. >>JUDGE CANALES: WON'T DO PREMIUM PAY -- WILL QUALIFY FOR PREMIUM PAY.

>> HE WILL GET PREMIUM PAY ON TOP OF 84?

COME ON. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THOUGHT

THAT WAS A CAP. >> FOR THEM, 34 -- THEY -- THEY WOULD ONLY GET A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS BECAUSE THEIR CAP IS 76,000. JUDGE SGLAWJZ IS WHAT WE ARE SAYING. IF WE DID THIS, WE WOULD NOT DO

THE PREMIUM PAY. >> 37, NO PREMIUM PAY.

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>>JUDGE CANALES: WE GET ORGANIZED.

YOU HAVE THE MOTION AND THE SECOND, AND -- ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NO. >> NO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: AND TWO NOS. THANK YOU.

YOU WILL GET THAT POSTED. I THINK YOU HEARD -- I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A MOTION FOR TWO WEEKS.

BUT I HOPE YOU MARY THE DIRECTIVE IS PROBABLY BEST FOR TWO WEEKS. WOULD YOU PREFER A MOTION FRANCISCO TO DO THE TWO WEEKS POSTING BECAUSE USUALLY DOES SEVEN DAYS. I THINK THAT IS FINE TWO-WEEKS AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: GIVES A CHANCE.

SEVEN DAYS. >> DO WE WANT TO SET A DATE FOR

INTERVIEWS YET? >>JUDGE CANALES: I'M HAPPY TO -- PART OF THE AGENDA. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THAT WILL

BE THE MONTH TODAY IS -- >> THIRD WEEK OF MARCH --

>>JUDGE CANALES: I MEAN WOULD WE SAY THE 24TH -- I DON'T K KNOW. IF YOU GIVE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS A CHANCE, WE ARE COMING BACK ON THE 16TH.

I THINK WE WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO REALLY COME UP WITH -- IT WILL GIVE US ALL A CHANCE TO LOOK AT OUR CALENDARS.

BUT OBVIOUSLY WE ARE LOOKING AT THE LAST TWO WEEKS OF MARCH.

>> I WILL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO SET INTERVIEWS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I AM CURIOUS SINCE WE VOTED TO DO THAT, I AM WONDERING WHERE THIS FITS IN OUR STUDY, IF THAT GETS US TO

THE MEDIAN PAY ON IT. >> I WILL HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: YOU SHOULD HAVE BRING THAT BACK.

AT THIS TIME THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS.

[4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.]

OBVIOUSLY WE DID PASS ON A FEW. AND I WILL MOVE US INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND PUBLIC NOTICE THAT COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT THIS TIME.

IT IS AUTHORIZED BY THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. SO ALSO THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITIES OF VERNON TEXAS CODE 5571, 2, 3, 4, 5, 86 AND 87. AS WELL A COMMISSIONERS COURT EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH OUR ATTORNEYS RELATED TO LITIGATION, REAL PROPERTY. GIFTS, DETERMINATION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ANY OTHER MATTERS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AT THIS TIME FOR THE CLERK, IT IS 11:49 A.M. I AM ALSO GOING TO ASK CONNIE TO TAKE US OFF OUR VIDEO, OUR MICS DOWN.

ASK ANYONE WHO IS NOT PART OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CLEAR

THE COURT ROOM, AND -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: BEFORE YOU GO, CAN I ASK ONE MORE THING.

>>JUDGE CANALES: CERTAINLY, LET ME JUST FINISH.

THAT IS -- DALE, THEY ASKED TO YOU STAY IF YOU WOULD, WE WILL TAKE YOUR ITEM FIRST, BUT IN AN EFFORT TO BE THOUGHTFUL, I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK IN TEN MINUTES SO WE CAN TAKE A LADIES ROOM BREAK AND THEN GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AND, AGAIN, THE TIME IS 11:50. COME CHESNEY -- COMMISSIONER

CHESNEY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: EDUCATION AND GRANTS PEOPLE. A MASTERS IN PUBLIC AND BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, URBAN STUDIES AND MINIMUM OF TWO YEARS RELATED OR MINIMUM OF FOUR YEARS OF RELATED EXPERIENCE. RIGHT, WE WOULDN'T -- IT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE A MAS MASTER'S.

JUST HAVE TO HAVE A B. A. WITH SOME RELATED EXPERIENCE, RIGHT.

SO THAT WOULD BE. I AM JUST MAKING SURE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT -- I NEVER WANT TO ELIMINATE A GOOD CANDIDATE THAT MAY HAVE GOOD WORK EXPERIENCE. SO THAT -- OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> THE TIME IS -- >> 3:25 P.M. WE HAVE A FEW PIECES OF BUSINESS TO CONCLUDE COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND I WILL TRY TO BE METHODICAL FOR THE CLERK BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND SOME ARE THE ONES THAT WE PASSED ON THAT WE WILL GO BACK TO. AND I WILL CALL THEM OUT.

SO ON THE FIRST MACHINE. I AM TAKING THEM IN ORDER, KARA. THERE IS A MOTION TO -- TO ADDRESS A. AND THE MOTION IS TO ALLOW EARNEST WATRN OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO RESPOND TO THE