[1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:04] >>JUDGE CANALES: GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. WE ARE -- WE HAVE THREE COMMISSIONERS SEATED. AND I AM CERTAIN THE OTHER ONES ARE FORTHCOMING. WE HAVE COMMISSIONER CHESNEY ON LINE. I SEE HIM RIGHT NOW. SO AT THIS TIME, I AM GOING TO CALL US INTO ORDER. AND I ASK ALL OF YOU TO PLEASE RISE INVOCATION. PLEASE REMAIN STANDING AS WE WILL HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO OUR TEXAS FLAG FOLLOWING OUR INVOCATION AND I DON'T SEE THAT I HAVE A PASTOR THIS MORNING. YES, I DO. GREAT, MY GOODNESS. WELCOME. >> THANK YOU FOR THE HONOR OF DOING THIS ON BEHALF OF THE CONGREGATION BETH ISRAEL HERE IN CORPUS. MAY WE JOIN TOGETHER TODAY INSPIRED BY THE DIVINE PRESENCE AND PREPARE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY. GOD, MAY YOUR PRESENCE DWELL AMONG US DRAWING US TO SERVE YOU AND ALL YOUR CREATION WITH JUSTICE AND LOVE. LET US LISTEN TO EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT AND TREAT EACH OTHER WITH WISDOM AND GENEROSITY SO WE MAY BE WORTHY OF THE RESPONSIBILITY WE UNDERTAKE TODAY AND EVERY DAY. MAY NONE OF OUR CONTROVERSY RISE UP LIKE KUROCK IN THE BIBLE FOR AMBITION AND SELF-BEING. FOR SAKE OF HEAVEN LIKE RABBIS IN THE ANCIENT WORLD AND MAY THEY ALWAYS BE FOR BENEFIT OF ALL THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY. MAY OUR EYES BE OPEN TO SEE YOUR GREATNESS AND YOUR PRESENCE IN ALL HUMANITY SO WE MAY BE INSPIRED TO ACT WITH THE UTMOST OF INTEGRITY AND COMPASSION IN ALL WE DO AND S SAY. MY THE GOODNESS PROSPER IN THE WORLD AND MAY GOD STRENGTHEN US IN THE WORK THAT WE DO. IN THE WORDS OF THE ANCIENT GREEKS IN JERUSALEM. MAY GOD BLESS US AND KEEP US. MAY GOD'S LIFE SHINE UPON US AND MAY GOD BE GRACIOUS TO US. MAY WE ALL FEEL GOD'S PRESENCE WITHIN US ALL AND MAY WE FIND PEACE AND WISDOM IN ALL OF OUR DELIBERATIONS AND LET US SAY, AMEN. >> AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TODAY FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE, UNDER GOD, ONE, INDIVISIBLE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, RABBI. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THE TIME FOR THE CLERK AT 8:38. BUT KARA, I AM GUESSING 8 :35 IS WHEN I LOOKED UP AND BEGAN PROCEEDING. AT THIS TIME I WILL NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT. AS I SAID COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IS ON VIRTUALLY THIS MORNING. COMMISSIONER, IF YOU LET US LOOK AT YOU TO MAKE CERTAIN. AND COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, MAREZ, GONZALEZ AND MYSELF ARE PRESENT. THANK YOU, THERE HE IS. TODAY IS FEBRUARY 23, 2022. WE ARE IN NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT ROOM INSIDE THE NUECES COUNTY COURT HOUSE AT 901 LEOPARD ON THIRD FLOOR. AND, AGAIN, AS A PRESIDING [D. SAFETY BRIEFING] OFFICER, I CERTIFY THAT A QUORUM IS PRESIDENT. MOVE TO REBECCA, AND SHE WILL GIVE US A SAFETY BRIEFING. A LOT OF US HERE SO I ASK YOU DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO HER. >> REBECCA: GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS AND ATTENDEES. OUR SAFETY BRIEFING FOR TODAY FEBRUARY 23 IS HELD IN THE NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT ROOM. THE REST ROOMS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE THIRD-FLOOR ATRIUM PAST THE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE. A FIRE EXTINGUISHER AT THE REAR OF THE COURT ROOM AND FIVE ADDITIONAL FIRE EXTINGUISHER LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE ATRIUM AREA. BLEED CONTROL STATIONS ARE ON EVERY FLOOR. ON BEHALF OF CARDS YAWING EMERGENCY, AN AED NEXT TO THE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE. PARTICIPANTS TODAY FOR DIALING 911 WILL BE CONNIE. PARTICIPANT CPR CERTIFIED LOW PRESSURE THE EMERGENCY PERSONNEL, BUT REMEMBER ANYONE CAN RENDER AID. IN THE EVENT OF EVACUATION OUR EGRESS ROUTE WILL BE ON THE ATRIUM DOORS AND ACROSS THE STREET AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO STAY TOGETHER. SHOULD THERE BE A NEED TO SHELTER IN PLACE DEPENDING ON THE SEVERITY OF THIS SHELTER IN PLACE, THE COURT ROOM DOUBLE DOORS WILL BE SECURED AND REMAIN SECURED UNTIL REMAIN [00:05:04] FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS FROM NUECES COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. OUR GUEST SANITIZER FOR THE DAY WILL BE MICHAEL. OUR SAFETY TOPIC FOR THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY IS NUECES COUNTY LOST CONTROL COMMITTEE. YESTERDAY, A LETTER WAS SENT OUT TO ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS REGARDING APPOINTMENT OF THE NUECES COUNTY LOSS CONTROL COMMITTEE. ESTABLISHED BY NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR THE THREE SAFETY PILLARS. SAFETY AT WORK, SAFETY AT HOME, AND SAFETY TO THE PUBLIC WE ARE DEDICATED TO SERVE. THE LCC'S PARTICIPATE IS VITAL TO THE CONTINUED SUCCESS OF THE NUECES COUNTY RISK MANAGEMENT OFFICE TRAINING PROGRAM AND NUECES COUNTY SAFETY AWARENESS PROGRAM. ADDRESSING ISSUES IT OUR SECOND MISSION. PREVENTING ISSUES, INJURIES, IS OUR PRIORITY. THE LCC WILL PROVIDE EMPLOYEE, SUPERVISORS AND MANAGERS TO 'ARE SOURCE TO TURN TO WHEN EMPLOYEES ARE FACED SAFETY PROBLEMS AN WANT TO REPORT SAFETY LIABILITIES. SAFETY FIRST. SAFETY ALWAYS. THAT CONCLUDES OUR RISK MANAGEMENT SAFETY BRIEFING FOR TODAY. [E. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.] THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU SO MUCH. SHE IS ON HER WAY. COURT ADMINISTRATION. THANK YOU. >> IN FRONT OF ME ROSTER OF THOSE WHO SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT -- EXCUSE ME. ALSO ONLINE, PLEASE NOTE, THAT IF YOU DISPLAY YOUR VIRTUAL ICON OF A HAND TO LET US KNOW YOU, TOO, WISH TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, I CAN CALL ON YOU APPROPRIATELY OKAY. THERE IS A TIME -- TIMER. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM. LET THE RECORD REFLECT I DON'T LIKE TIMERS. PLEASE BE JUDICIOUS. YOU KNOW WHY THERE IS A TIMER. IT IS PART OF THE RULES. AND THE REASON IS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS HE HEARD. BUT PLEASE KNOW WHOEVER RUNNING THE TIMER THERE IS NO BUZZER HERE. SO WE WILL MAKE -- WE WILL BE VERY RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER. HOW IS THAT? I THINK THAT IS A GOOD SET OF RULES. AT ANY RATED, OUR FIRST -- THE FIRST PERSON TO SIGN IS MR. ERIC BURCH FOLLOWED BY MISS SUSIE SALDANA. KNOW WE ARE CLEANING THE PODIUM IN BETWEEN, SO IF YOU WILL JUST MAKE CERTAIN THAT YOU ALLOW FOR THAT SPACE. WELCOME, SIR. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS ERIC BURCH, AN ATTORNEY IN AUSTIN WITH BURCH, RECORD, MORGAN. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF JD -- SORRY, DAVIDSON AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT ITEM 2 Q. THAT ITEM ON JANUARY 26, YOU AWARDED THE CONTRACT FOR THE BOB HALL PIER DEMOLITION PROJECT TO JM DAVIDSON. ON DECEMBER 22, YOU RESCINDED THAT AWARD AND TO RUSSELL MARINE IN RESPONSE TO A COMPLAINT MADE AT THAT AGENDA MEETING -- >> JUDGE, SORRY TO INTERRUPT. I BELIEVE HE IS HERE TO TALK ON AN ITEM ON AGENDA AND NOT APPROPRIATE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I CAN ADVANCE IT IF HE IS FROM OUT OF TOWN. >> I AM HAPPY TO WAIT, EITHER WAY IS FINE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE NICE THING ABOUT WAITING IS YOU HAVE A LITTLE MORE LATITUDE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE CAN'T RESPOND THIS PUBLIC COMMENT -- NOT A DIALOGUE IN NONPUBLIC COMMENT. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, ABSOLUTELY. LET'S MOVE ON TO MISS SUSIE SALDANA. THEY WILL CLEAN THE PODIUM. FOLLOWING IS MARIA CALCROFT. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS SUSIE SALDANA AND I COME AT THAT TALK ABOUT GAME ROOMS. A LOT OF ISSUES CONCERNING GAME ROOMS I AM COMING FROM THE PERSPECTIVE THAT I LOVE TO GAMBLE. OKAY, I LOVE GOING TO GAMBLE, AND I LOVE BEING THERE. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHERE I GO, IT IS SAFE. THAT IS THE THING. WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR IN YOU ALL IS TO REGULATE THOSE GAME ROOMS. TO PUT A SET OF RULES TO WHERE IF A SENIOR CITIZEN LIKE MYSELF GOES TO A GAME ROOM, I FEEL SAFE IN THAT GAME ROOM. BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU I HAVE LOOKED AT THEM AND YOU HAVE GOT SOME GOOD ONES, AND YOU GOT SOME BAD ONES AND YOU REALLY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT TO [00:10:01] DO TO REGULATE THEM. AND TO REGULATE THE NUMBER OF GAME ROOMS IN CORPUS. NOT A PLACE WHERE THERE IS ONE IN EVERY CORNER. YOU NEED TO REGULATE THE NUMBER OF GAME ROOMS THEY ARE WITHIN THE COUNTY. THAT IS WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR YOU TO DO. AND YOU REALLY NEED TO MOVE ON THIS, BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A WAY FOR THIS COUNTY, ONE, TO REGULATED THOSE GAME ROOMS AND MAKE SOME MONEY. AND, TWO, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF THAT WANT TO GO TO THEM. I WANT TO GO TO A PLACE WHERE I FEEL SAFE. AND THERE ARE SOME WHERE I WILL NOT FEEL SAFE. SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AND DECIDE ON A SET OF RULES AND DECIDE ON THEM NOW, NOT LATER, THE QUICKER YOU GET THIS DONE, THE QUICKER IT IS BETTER FOR US. I AM COMING FROM A POINT OF A PERSON WHO LOVES TO ATTEND. AND I WALK INTO SOME PLACES AND THEN I WALK RIGHT NOW. AND I WALKED INTO SOME PLACES WHERE THE SECURITY GUARDS AND THEY WANT PEOPLE TO COME IN AND THEY TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INSIDE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE BINGO HALLS ARE ALWAYS UNDER PROTEST WITH THIS. AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR PERSPECTIVE. I AM NOT A BINGO PLAYER. A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT LIKE TO PLAY BINGO AND A GROUP OF US THAT LIKE TO GAMBLE. I AM LOOKING FOR YOU TO SET A SET OF RULES THAT WILL SAVE ME FROM HAVING TO WORRY WHICHEVER PLACE I WANT TO GO TO. LET ME TELL YOU, I GO TO KI KICKABOO EVERY WEEKEND AND REQUEST TO WINDSTAR. A LOT OF TRAVELING FOR SOMEONE, ESPECIALLY MY AGE, OKAY. SO IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE COUNTY, FOR THE SENIOR CITIZENS -- AND I DON'T WANT TO HEAR -- THEY CAN'T SPEND THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY THERE AND SPEND THEIR MONEY. IF THEY GO SPEND $30 AT THE MOVIE, THEY CAN GO AND HAVE FUN AT THE GAME ROOM WHERE THEY ARE BEING FED AND TAKEN CARE OF. THAT IS WHY I'M HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY. GET BUSY AND GET GAME RULES FOR THOSE GAME ROOMS. SET UP YOUR PARAMETERS. SET UP THE LIMITS AND GET THIS THING GOING. IT'S TIME FOR YOU ALL TO DO THAT. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND I HOPE YOU TAKE INTO SERIOUS CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, MA'AM. WE NEXT HAVE MISS MARIA CASSCOF. >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MARIA CRASKOF. I LIVED IN PORT ARANSAS FOR 27 YEARS. MY MONDAY ELLIOTT PASSED ADAY DECEMBER 6, 2021. HE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST INDIVIDUALS AUTOPSIED BY SANDRA LIGHTEN. I AM HERE TO ASK WHY I WAS NOT NOTIFIED OR THE OTHER 32 FAMILIES WERE NOT NOTIFIED THAT THEIR LOVED ONES WERE AUTOPSIED BY LIGHTEN. ANY ATTEMPT BY EVERYONE TO NOTIFY US. I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE NOTIFIED OF THIS SITUATION. WHY DO I HAVE TO HEAR THIS FROM HEARSAY AND THE NEWS.I HAD TO DO MY OWN RESEARCH AND FOUND ELLIOTT'S NAME ON THE LIST. DOES THE COMMISSIONERS COURT THINK IS MATTER WAS NOT IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO SEND US A LETTER TO NOTIFY US. HOW MANY FAMILIES STILL DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS AND HOW THIS AFFECTS THEIR LIVES. I STILL DON'T KNOW THE CAUSE OF MY SON'S DEATH, AND EVEN IF AND WHEN I DO GET THE FINAL REPORT, I WILL ALWAYS HAVE DOUBT AND MISTRUST AS TO THE CREDIBILITY OF THE REPORT. HOW CAN WE TRULY KNOW THAT LIGHTEN PERFORMED THESE AUTOPSIES CORRECTLY? WE ALL HAVE GOOD REASON TO DOUBTED THAT. HOW CAN I MAKE SURE THAT ELLIOTT WAS EXAMINED CORRECTLY OR SHE COMPLIED WITH PROCEDURES OR DID SHE EVEN KNOW WHAT SHE WAS DOING. AGAIN, WE ALL HAVE GOOD REASON TO DOUBT THAT. THE THOUGHT ANGUISHES ME TO NO END. LIGHTEN KNEW SHE HAD NO LICENSE TO PRACTICE MEDICINE IN TEXAS AND NOT EVEN IN THE PERMIT TO PERFORM AS A SCOPE OF A MEDICAL EXAMINER AND SHE DID IT ANYWAY AND DR. SHAKER KNOWINGLY LET HER UNTIL THEY WERE CAUGHT. THANK GOD FOR DETECTIVE JASON SMITH FOR BRINGING THIS OUT INTO THE LIGHT. HOW MANY MORE WOULD SHE HAVE GOTTEN AWAY WITH IF HE HADN'T. SO WHAT HAS BECOME OF LIGHTEN? WE KNOW SHE WAS FIRED AND NOW JUST FREE TO GO AND DO THE SAME THING IN ANOTHER STATE? ARE THERE NO REPERCUSSIONS OR PENALTY? I HAVE BEEN A REGISTERED NURSE FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND I HAVE TO MAINTAIN MY LICENSE TO PRACTICE NURSING IN TEXAS. HOW WAS SHE ALLOWED TO PERFORM THE MOST DELICATE AND IMPORTANT JOB TO MEDICINE AND THE LAW. [00:15:03] SOMEONE HAS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. AS I SAID EARLIER, I AM WAITING FOR THE FINAL REPORT ON THE CAUSE AND MANNER OF ELLIOTT'S DEATH. NOT HAVING THIS INFORMATION HAS DELAYED OR WORSE YET MAY EVEN BE DENIED HIS LIFE INSURANCE. LOSING A CHILD IS THE WORST THING EVERYONE CAN EXPERIENCE. THIS HAS BEEN THE MOST DIFFICULT TIME IN MY LIFE AND WHAT MAKES IT EVEN MORE PAINFUL IS HAVING TO GO THROUGH THIS. I HAVE NO TIME TO GRIEVE NORMALLY BECAUSE THIS HAS CAUSED ME SO MUCH MENTAL ANGUISH AND PAIN AND ANXIETY. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. I ALSO HAVE A FINAL SPEAKER SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT I DID WANT TO ASK SINCE IT IS FLOW AND YOU ARE ON THE AGENDA, DO YOU WANT TO -- FLO AND SINCE YOU ARE ON THE AGENDA, DID YOU WANT TO WAIT -- AND STEVEN AS WELL. WE WILL WAIT FOR THAT AGENDA ITEM THAT IS FORTHCOMING. I SEE NO OTHER NAME LISTED ON MY SIGN-UP SHEET, AND I SEE NO ICON ONLINE, CONNIE AND I WAS SCOURING THE ROOM FOR MY DEPUTY TO DOUBLE CHECK. YES? >> ANGELA HORNER JUST RAISED HER HAND. >>JUDGE CANALES: FROM NAMI. COURT RECOGNIZES ANGELA HORNER REPRESENTING NAMI. >> THANK YOU, MY NAME IS ANGELA HORNER AND HERE ON BEHALF OF THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE OF MENTAL HEALTH, CORPUS CHRISTI AFFILIATE. AND OUR MISSION IS TO PROVIDE EDUCATION, SUPPORT, ADVOCACY AND AWARENESS FOR THOSE LIVING WITH MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS AS WELL AS FAMILY MEMBERS IN THE COMMUNITY. AND I'M HERE TO TELL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY I AM REACHING OUT TODAY. WE WOULD LIKE TO ADVOCATE FOR BETTER MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES HERE IN NUECES COUNTY. I HAVE BEEN THE AFILL 1998 LEADER AND PROGRAM DEVELOPER FOR OUR LOCAL NA MI AFFILIATE FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS NOW AND WE FREQUENTLY HAVE PEOPLE COMING TO OUR MEETINGS TALKING ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T GET THE SERVICES THEY NEED OR THEY HAVE TO REACH OUT TO COMMUNITIES OUTSIDE NUECES, LIKE THE LARGER CITIES LIKE SAN ANTONIO AND HOUSTON TO GET THEIR MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS MET. AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THE MEADOWS FOUNDATION ASSESSMENT NEEDS -- NEEDS ASSESSMENT REPORT THAT WAS DONE A FEW YEARS AGO FOR THE COUNTY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY TALKED ABOUT WAS INTEGRATED RATHER THAN SEGREGATED TREATMENT OF MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS AND I BELIEVE THAT SHOULD BE THE PRIMARY GOAL OF THAT NUECES COUNTY IS AIMING FOR. INTEGRATED CARE OCCURS WHEN BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CARE SERVICES ARE EMBEDDED INTO PRIMARY CARE. AND THESE REQUIRES INCLUSION OF MULTIPLE PROVIDERS WITH UNIQUE SPECIALTIES. I ALSO SUGGEST THE INCLUSION OF PEERS LIKE PEER SUPPORT SPECIALIST AND FAMILY MEMBERS, PROVIDERS IN THE CARE MODEL. I KNOW IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, THEY HAVE A DESIGNATED MENTAL HEALTH COURT, AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE WE DO NOT HAVE ONE IN NUECES COUNTY YET. I SAY "YES"BECAUSE WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT WE ARE LEANING IN THAT DIRECTION HOPEFULLY. AND I JUST WANTED TO BE HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ALL THE MEMBERS OF OUR NAMI GREATER CORPUS CHRISTI AFILL 1998 TO JUST LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT MENTAL HEALTH IS IMPORTANT. WE NEED BETTER SERVICES HERE THE COMMUNITY AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. CONNIE, DO YOU RECOGNIZE ANYONE ELSE ONLINE? [1. In recognition of March March for the Vote Day - March 5, 2022.] >> NO MA'AM. >>JUDGE CANALES: RESOLUTION AND PROCLAMATIONS AND LET THE COURT'S ATTENTION TO ITEM F 1 IN RECOGNITION OF MARCH MARCH FOR THE VOTE DAY HELD MARCH 5, 2022 AND BELINDA WILL READ OUR PROCLAMATION. >> YES, JUDGE, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARE HERE TO RECEIVE THIS RESOLUTION AND LOIS HOUGH. 5,000 WOMEN WERE IN OUR NATION'S CAPITOL ON MARCH 3, [00:20:03] 1913 THE EVE OF WOODROW WI WILSON'S NOMINATION. AND WHEREAS TAKE UNTIL 1920 UNTIL THE 19TH AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION THAT GAVE MANY WOMEN FULL RIGHTS TO VOTE PASSED BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS AND RATIFIED BY THE REQUIRED 36 STATES. AND WHEREAS THIS DID NOT GUARANTEE SUR RAJ OF ALL WOMEN, WOMEN WITH COLOR, WOMEN WITH DISABILITIES AND WOMEN WHOSE PRIMARY LANGUAGE WAS NOT ENGLISH. THE BOLD COURAGEOUS PEOPLE THAT FOUGHT FOR THE RATIFICATION OF THE 19TH AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION DESERVE IS SPECIAL CELEBRATION. AND WHEREAS WOMEN TODAY ARE ACTIVE IN LOCAL, STATE AND NATIONAL GOVERNMENT AND ARE RUNNING FOR OFFICE IN UNPRECEDENTED NUMBERS REMINDING US WE ALL FOLLOW IN THE F FOOTSTEPS TOES RESO HE LUTD U.S. AMERICAN SUFFRAGISTS. AND WHEREAS, THE RIGHT TO VOTED IS THE CORNERSTONE OF OUR DEMOCRACY AND WHERE OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES REST. NOW THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF NUECES COUNTY THAT MARCH 5, 2022 IS HEARBY DESIGNATED IN HONOR OF THE WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE PARADE OF 1913 AS MARCH MANAGE FOR THE VOTE DAY. IN NUECES COUNTY, THE COURT URGES CITIZENS OF NUECES COUNTY TO REAFFIRM THE OPPORTUNITY FOR STUDENTS AND ADULTS TO LEARN ABOUT AND COMMEMORATE THE EFFORTS OF THE WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE MOVEMENT AND THE ROLE OF WOMEN IN THE DEMOCRACY TO STRENGTHEN PARTICIPATION NDZ INSPIRE FUTURE GENERATIONS PROPER THE DES DENSE ESTABLISHED IN THE 19TH AMENDMENT. >>JUDGE CANALES: LADIES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THE PODIUM AND MAKE SOME COMMENTS? GRATEFUL THAT YOU ARE HERE. GRATEFUL THAT I ALSO WEAR YOUR SASH TODAY. WELCOME. >> WELCOME. THANK YOU, JUDGE CANALES. I AM LOIS HOUGH AND HERE WITH A GROUP OF DYNAMIC WOMEN. THESE ARE THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT THEY REPRESENT, BECAUSE IT IS NOT JUST ONE ORGANIZATION. IT IS A NUMBER OF ORGANI ORGANIZATIONS. I AM SORRY. I HAVE GOT MASK -- THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE WORKED HARD ON THIS OF THE CORPUS CHRISTI AMERICAN FEDERATION OF TEACHERS, CORPUS CHRISTI YWCA, CORPUS CHRISTI CHAPTER OF DELTA THETA, THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS OF CORPUS CHRISTI. THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF BLACK PERSONNEL IN HIGHER EDUCATION CORPUS CHRISTI CHAPTER, THE WOMEN'S ENTREPRENEURIAL SOCIETY OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND THE GIRL SCOUTS OF CORPUS CHRISTI -- SORRY OF GREATER SOUTH TEXAS. SANDRA FROM THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS HELD THE FIRST EVENTS MARCH 7, 2020. AND PART OF THE AUGUST 26 100TH YEAR CELEBRATION OF WOMEN WINNING THE RIGHT TO VOTE IN THE UNITED STATES. AND AMY SANFORD -- AMY ALDRIDGE SANFORD AT MIDDLE TENNESSEE UNIVERSITY AND SERVED AS OUR ACADEMIC ADVISOR. OUR EVENT IN THE 1913 WOMEN'S MARCH IN WASHINGTON AND THE START OF WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH. I WANT TO POINT OUT -- I THINK IT HAS ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED THAT OUR GOALS INCLUDE KEEPING ALIVE THE SPIRIT AND ESSENCE OF WOMEN WHO SACRIFICED FOR THE RIGHT TO VOTE AND PROMOTING THE BENEFITS OF ACTION AND ADV ADVOCACY. JUDGE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I AM VERY HAPPY OF YOU WEARING OUR BANNER. THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE MARCH TO MARCH FOR THE VOTE COMMITTEE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. ANY OF YOU ARE WELCOME TO MAKE A COMMENT. WE TYPICALLY WOULD LOVE TO TAKE PICTURES. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT THAT, BUT WE CAN STAND UP HERE AND YOU CAN BE RIGHT HERE. AND THEN WE HAVE A COPY OF THAT -- ALTHOUGH I DON'T -- BELINDA? BUT WE WILL GET IT TO YOU. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A COMPLETE SIGNATURE OF ALL THE COURT MEMBERS. YEAH IT'S 'GREAT. TINA, GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN. GLAD EVERYBODY IS HERE. THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU ARE A FEMALE ELECTED. DO YOU WANT TO JOIN US -- I MEAN ELECTIONS. WE WOULDN'T HAVE ELECTION IT IS IT WEREN'T FOR -- >> THE CAMERA IS NOT RIGHT. THERE WE GO. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL REMOVE IT FOR THE PICTURE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, [00:25:37] LADIES. SEE YOU AT THE MARCH MARCH. NO GIRLS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION AND THE SECOND AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL MOVE ON. THEY ARE GOING TO CLEAR THE COURT ROOM AND WE WILL MOVE ON [2. In recognition of Texas Independence Day - March 2, 2022.] TO YET ANOTHER INCREDIBLE AND IMPORTANT DAY IN TEXAS HISTORY. AND THAT IS THE RECOGNITION OF TEXAS INDEPENDENCE DAY. AND WITH US IS THE NUECES COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION. BUT FIRST BELINDA SHALL READ FOR US. >> WHEREAS INDEPENDENCE WAS DECLARED THIS DAY ON 186 YEARS AGO, DESPERATE CITIZENS RESIDING IN WHAT IS TODAY THE STATE OF TEXAS MET AT WASHINGTON ON THE BRAZOS AGAINST GRIEVANCES OF TYRANT SALDANA AND THE GOVERNMENT NO LONGER FUNCTIONED IN THE PROVISION OF THE MEXICO CONSTITUTION OF 1824. AND THE TYRANNY OF SANTANA COULD NO LONGER BE ENDURED. GEORGE CHILDRES HAD THE TEXAS DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AND DECLARATION FROM MEXICO AND REPUBLIC OF TEXAS CHANGING THE COURSE OF HISTORY AND CITIZENS OF NUECES COUNTY JOIN TEXANS THROUGHOUT THE STATE ON THIS REVERED DATE IN HISTORY. NOW, THEREFORE, IT BE PRO CLIMBED BY THE NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT 22ND DAY OF MARCH IS TEXAS INDEPENDENCE DAY IN NUECES COUNTY. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, BELINDA. KATHY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS? POQUITO? >> HERE WE GO AGAIN. >>JUDGE CANALES: SOMEBODY HELP HER THERE. DONNIE, THANK YOU SO MUCH. GRATEFUL. [LAUGHTER] >> IS THAT GOOD? >> THAT'S GOOD. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. JUDGE CANALES AND ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE -- THIS RECOGNITION AND SETTING ASIDE THIS VERY SPECIAL DAY. I WANT TO ADD JUST ONE COMMENT. YESTERDAY I WENT TO A DRT MEETING IN ROCKPORT FULTON. I HEARD OF A MIRACULOUS WOMAN DURING THESE TIMES. MARGARET WRIGHT. READ ABOUT HER. SHE WAS A GREAT TEXAN. AND SHE LIVED THROUGH THIS TERRIBLE PERIOD. AND I WAS MUCH ADMIRED -- WE HEAR ABOUT SUSANA DICKINSON SO MUCH, BUT MARGARET RIGHT FROM VICTORIA, TEXAS, AND GALAN GRANT FROM DELEON. AND LEST WE NOT FORGET THIS DAY. AND, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE HISTORY CONN CONNECTIONS. I ALSO WANT TO INVITE YOU TO THE CENTENNIAL HOUSE MARCH 2 TO CELEBRATE THE TOAST OF TEXAS. IT IS ABOUT A 30-MINUTE PRO PROGRAM. YOU ALL SHOULD KNOW WHERE CENTENNIAL HOUSE IS. PLEASE COME. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU THERE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, KATHY. >> OH, ONE MOMENT. MY GRANDDAUGHTER. >>JUDGE CANALES: HELLO. >> SHE IS USED TO THIS. SHE IS ATTENDING SCHOOL IN WASHINGTON LEE IN VIRGINIA. SHE IS A SENIOR THIS YEAR AND SHE IS MARVELOUS. SHE IS SMART. SHE IS GORGEOUS. AND SHE IS ALL MINE. AND SEVENTH GRADE SHE WON THE TEXAS HISTORY FROM TRACY BARBAROS CLASS AT BAKER. ANYWAY, SHE IS HERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU ARE ENTITLED AND SHE IS WELCOME HERE TO CELEBRATE THIS GREAT OPPORTUNITY. BELINDA. >> I WANTED TO POINT OUT SHE IS THE DAUGHTER OF JENNY KRONE WHO WORKED HERE IN NUECES COUNTY FOR MANY YEARS. >>JUDGE CANALES: OH, MY GOODNESS. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT OUR OWN TIMES IS DOING PROFILES ON WOMEN AND DID ONE FOR TEXAS HISTORY. SHE WAS CALLED THE ANGEL OF THE ALAMO. ELDINA EL SAVALA. HER GRANDFATHER WAS OUR FIRST [00:30:04] VICE PRESIDENT OF OUR REPUBLIC. AND SO I THINK THAT THE HISTORY THAT YOU KEEP ALIVE FOR NUECES COUNTY IS CRITICAL IN OUR CELEBRATION FOR THE TOAST OF TEXAS THAT WE WILL DO AT CENTENNIAL HOUSE. AND I DO ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO DIG A LITTLE DEEP THEY ARE MARCH 2. LEARN YOUR TEXAS HISTORY AND WITH IT, YOU WILL FIND THAT PEOPLE THAT YOU PERHAPS ARE NOT SO FAMILIAR WITH, THE NAMES THAT AREN'T ETCHED IN YOUR MIND FROM 7TH GRADE ARE ALSO PLAYED A HUGE ROLE FOR US. AGAIN, FOR ME TODAY, NOT ONLY BECAUSE WE ARE THINKING OF WOMEN, BUT ALSO WE ARE THINKING ABOUT TEXAS HISTORY. MEET THE ANGELO OF THE ALAMO. WRITTEN BY OUR OWN VICKY GAMARI O. YOU FIND IT ON"USA TODAY." THANK YOU, KATHY. OUR TOAST TO TEXAS. WE WILL GET YOU -- IS THAT CORRECT, CARA? DELIVER THIS ON THE 2ND FOR Y YOU. YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND SO AT THIS TIME, THERE IS ONLY -- I WILL NEED A MOTION. I HAVE GOT A MOTION AND GO AHEAD AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE TEXAS INDEPENDENCE DAY PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY. THANK YOU. I DO, RIGHT HERE. [1. Maria Bedia, Director of Grants Administration, 21 years of service with Nueces County.] THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM G 1. A HEAVY HEART HERE FOR ME TODAY THAT I AM ANNOUNCING AFTER 21 YEARS OF SERVICE WITH NUECES COUNTY, OUR DIRECTOR OF GRANTS AT ADMINISTRATION WILL LEAVE US. HER NAME IS MARIA BEDIA. SHE IS KNOWN TO ALL OF US. IS SHE HERE WITH US HERE IN THE COURT ROOM? THERE YOU ARE HIDING BEHIND THE CAMERA. SHE IS HERE WITH HER DEPUTY NATALIE, AND THE DYNAMIC DUO HAS BEEN MANAGING OVER $90 MILLION OF GRANTS THIS YEAR ALONE. MARIA STARTED AS A YOUNG WOMAN. THAT'S WHY SHE IS STILL SO YOUNG. I BELIEVE AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS IT ALL RIGHT TO SAY? I THINK SHE WAS 19 YEARS OLD. SHE WAS 19 YEARS OLD WHEN SHE CAME TO WORK WITH NUECES COUNTY. WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT ANYONE THAT MEETS MARIA AND KNOWS HER CRAFT KNOWS SHE DOES EVERYTHING WITH LOVE. LAST NIGHT WE WERE SHEDDING A TEAR WE DID NOT WIN A GRANT. WE TAKE THESE THINGS PERSONALLY BECAUSE WE INVEST OURSELVES IN OUR WORK. THE TRUTH IS BECAUSE OF MARIA AND HER LEADERSHIP, WE HAVE EXCELLED UPON OUR WILDEST DREAMS FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SHE MOVED FROM WORK IN -- AND STRAIGHT FROM SHERIFF OFFICE AND WORKED UNDER ROX ROXANNE. MANY OF YOU WORKED UNDER ROCKS IAN AND WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY AROSE SHE APPLIED TO BE THE SUCCESSFUL APPLICANT TO FIT THE LARGE SHOES THAT WERE LEFT BY REALLY HER MENTOR BEFORE HER. SHE IS LEAVING US TO GO TO THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI TO WORK ON A LONG-RANGE STRATEGIC GOALS THERE. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, WE HAVE A GRANT APPLICATION FOR CDBG MINT KIND OF HER BABY THERE. I SUSPECT WE WILL SEE HER AND WORK WITH HER. I KNOW FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE A STRONGER COUNTY. EVERYONE LIKES TO TALK OF THE FACT WE ARE $100 MILLION OR SO AD VALOREM COUNTY, BUT THE TRUTH WHEN YOU ADD GRANTS, ADD ALMOST ANOTHER $100 MILLION THIS YEAR. AND THAT IS A TESTAMENT TO THE DETAIL, THE PRECISION AND PERSEVERE ADVANCE OF A DEPARTMENT OF TWO. THANK YOU, MARIA FOR EVERYTHING THAT UP DONE FOR US FROM THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE GRANTS THAT HELP WOMEN WHO ARE SUFFERING AS VICTIMS. YOU MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE HAVE THOSE TYPES OF COUNSELORS, VICTIM ASSIST COORDINATORS. YOU HELPED US PLACED 150,000 GRANT EIGHT YEAR IN A ROW, AND WE WANT IT FOR THE VETERAN SERVICES OFFICER. FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RECOVER MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM FEMA PUBLIC ASSISTANCE AND CEFS AND MANY OF THE OTHER CORONAVIRUS RELIEF FUNDS THAT WE HAD TO NAVIGATE. HONESTLY, WE WILL MISS YOU TERRIBLY, BUT TODAY IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIMPLY READ A RESOLUTION THAT DOESN'T SAY ENOUGH, BUT PLEASE KNOW -- AND I KNOW YOU ARE NOT FAR -- WE INTEND TO CALL YOU AS MANY TIMES AS WE WANT. AND ALTHOUGH WE HAVE NOT TRULY GIVEN YOU A PROPER GOODBYE, PERHAPS IT IS, AS I SAID TO YOU YESTERDAY WHEN WE HAD OUR TRANSITION MEETING, IT IS REALLY ABOUT OLD FRIENDS AND [00:35:03] NEW FRIENDS AND WE HOPE THAT YOUR NEW FRIENDS THAT YOU MAKE THERE WILL HELP FORGE THE RELATIONSHIPS OF THE OLD. BECAUSE OUR INTENTION IS POLITICAL JURISDICTIONS IS ALWAYS TO BE BETTER TOGETHER. BELINDA, WOULD YOU READ THE RESOLUTION AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. I WOULD ASK FOR A SECOND. >> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S HER READ IT AND I WOULD LIKE COMMISSIONER TO MAKE THEIR OWN REMARKS. >> WE HEREBY EXPRESS OUR SINCERE APPRECIATION TO MARIA BEDIA WITH 21 YEARS OF SERVICE TO NUECES COUNTY THIS FEBRUARY 23, 2022. >>JUDGE CANALES: AGAIN, SOMETIMES THE CERTIFICATE DOESN'T SAY WHAT IS REALLY OBVIOUSLY IN OUR HEARTS WHICH IS, YOU GREW UP HERE. I KNOW THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETELY MISSED. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT WE HERE AT NUECES COUNTY GAVE YOU THE WINGS, AND NOW IT IS YOUR TURN TO FLY. THE PORT EVER CORPUS CHRISTI IS ONE OF MOST DYNAMIC PLACES TO WORK IN ALL OF TEXAS. THE NUMBER ONE PORT IN COUNTRY FOR TONNAGE AND REVENUE AND QUITE FRANKLY, I FEEL LIKE THEY NEED YOU. I AM SORRY TO LOSE YOU BUT YOU TRAINED NATALIE VERY WELL. COMMISSIONERS. >> JUST, WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THIS, I SAID WHAT DID WE DO. BUT AN OPPORTUNITY I BELIEVE YOU COULDN'T PASS UP. UNFORTUNATELY WE SEE A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE COME THROUGH THE COUNTY AND LEAVE, BUT I TELL YOU. YOU ARE ONE OF THE BEST. YOU ARE PROFESSIONAL. I KNOW THAT WE IN PREVIOUS COURTS CANNOT -- AND ARE NOT PERFECT, BUT YOU AND ALL OF OUR STAFF LEARN TO GRIN AND BEAR IT MANY TIMES. BUT YOU ALWAYS HAVE BEEN THERE AVAILABLE TO ME, TO MY OFFICE. AND JUST WORKING HARD. AND I KNOW I FIND THINGS THAT WERE OPPORTUNITY FOR GRANTS. YOU SAID WE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT THAT. WE ARE WORKING ON IT. I AM LIKE, OKAY. AN E-MAIL PASSING IT ALONG TO YOUR OFFICE BUT YOU ARE ALWAYS ON THE BALL. SO IT WAS A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH ROXY AND YOU AND IT WORKED GREAT I KNOW OUR PROFESSIONALS AND SUPPORTING EACH OTHER. TO SEE YOU HERE WITH NATALIE, AGAIN, REALLY BLESSED TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE WHO ENJOY THEIR WORK AND ENJOY WORKING WITH EACH OTHER. AND IN THIS DAY AND AGE, THAT IS REALLY TOUGH TO FIND. AN HONOR TO WORK WITH YOU. WISH YOU THE BEST. SAD TO SEE YOU GO, BUT YOU HAVE LEFT US BETTER THAN YOU HAVE FOUND US AND I AM SO THANKFUL TO KNOW YOU AND TO HAVE WORKED WITH YOU. >> MARIA, EXCUSE ME. I KNEW YOU WHEN YOU WERE WORKING AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND BUYING SUPPLIES AT THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT. I KNOWN YOU FOR A WHILE AND YOUR GOOD WORK ETHICS. THEY ARE GOOD WORK ETHICS. THE PORT IS GETTING A GOOD -- A BETTER EMPLOYEE. I KNOW MY PRECINCT IS BETTER -- HAS BEEN TREATED WELL WITH THE GRANTS YOU HAVE GOTTEN FOR US HILLTOP WILL BE A NEW BUILDING BECAUSE YOU GOT US THOSE GR GRANTS. AND THE ROOF DOESN'T LEAK ANYMORE BECAUSE YOU GOT US THOSE GRANTS. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART. YOU ARE A GREAT PERSON TO WORK WITH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU FIND GOOD WORKING PEOPLE AT THE PORT. THANK YOU, MARIA. >> THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: KIND OF HARD TO SAY GOODBYE TO SOMEBODY LIKE MARIA. AND YOU KNOW WE -- WE WALK THE STREET TOGETHER AND IN CINDY PARK, THE RANCH. YOU KNOW, AND WORK TOGETHER ON THAT GRANT FOR FIVE YEARS. YOU, ME, ROXY AND PUBLIC WORKS. EVERYBODY HAS TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT. AND YOU ARE KIND THE SPEARHEAD OF EVERYTHING MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS PUT TOGETHER AND ROSE ACRES IS ANOTHER ONE WE WORKED ON FOUR YEARS OR MORE. NOT ABOUT A GRANT THAT SOME PEOPLE THINK YOU GET A GRANT AND OVERNIGHT, BUT TAKES US TWO TO THREE YEARS TO GET THE GRANT AND TAKES US ANOTHER THREE, FOUR, FIVE YEARS TO EXECUTE THE WHOLE GRANT. DURING THE TIME IT GETS A LOT BETTER AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT YOU HAVE MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE COUNTY AS FAR AS AND THE [00:40:05] COMMITMENT AND DEDICATION AND PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN HALF OF THE GRANTS. AND FOR THE SEPTICS TANKS. NO, YOU CAN'T GO UNTIL YOU GET THAT ONE. AND I MEAN I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I AM SURE I SPEAK FOR MOST OF THE EMPLOYEES HERE IN NUECES COUNTY. AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE GIVEN US. THANK YOU JUST FOR MAKING THIS COUNTY A LITTLE BETTER AND FOR SPEARHEADING A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN SPEARHEADED WORKING WITH YOU. AND ALL OTHER AGENCIES -- NOT JUST US BUT THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND WHEN WE REALLY HAD TO GET DOWN TO THE NITTY GRITTY WOULD CALL THOSE MEETINGS, SO I WANT TO SAY I WISH YOU THE BEST IN EVERYTHING YOU DO. AND I TELL YOU WHAT -- WHEN YOU TOLD ME YOU WERE LEAVING, BAD NEWS. BUT GOOD NEWS, YOU KNOW. SO I WANT TO CONTINUE -- I WANT TO WISH YOU THE BEST IN WHATEVER YOU DO, I KNOW YOU WILL DO THE BEST. SO CONGRATULATIONS AND GOD BLESS YOU. >> THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: FINALLY ONLINE, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IF YOU WILL UNMUTE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THANK YOU, JUDGE. MARIA, I AM NOT GOING TO REPEAT WHAT EVERYBODY HAS SAID BECAUSE HONESTLY THEY SAID IT SO WELL AND OFTENTIMES WHEN YOU GO LAST, YOU END UP HAVING TO GET WHAT YOU CAN, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY -- THERE WEREN'T AS MANY GRANT OPPORTUNITIES IN MY PRECINCT TO WORK WITH YOU WHILE YOU WERE HERE, BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH WHERE YOU ARE CONTINUED PROFESSIONALISM WITH THE DIFFICULT TIME WITH THE GRANTS AND EVERYTHING GOING ON WITH THE PANDEMIC. SUR DOING SOMETHING GREAT FOR SOMETHING THAT NEVER KNOW ABOUT AND DIDN'T GET THE CREDIT FOR A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU HAD A DIRECT IMPACT ON. I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS. AS SOMEONE ELSE SAID, IT IS A DYNAMIC PLACE TO GO AND WORK AT THE PORT. EXCITING THINGS GOING ON. I LOOK AT PEOPLE LEAVING THE COUNTY FOR OPPORTUNITIES A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WAY. I THINK IT IS ALWAYS EXCITING. I THINK, SURE, IT IS SAD THEIR LEAVING AND YOU HAVE BEEN HERE SO LONG AND YOU LITERAL LIE HAVE GROWN UP HERE. BUT, AT THE SAME TIME, WHAT SEASON OUTSTANDING COMMUNITY TO GO WITH QUASI PRIVATE SECTOR. NOT PRIVATE BUT NOT PUBLIC EITHER. THEY GET TO PAY DIFFERENT RATES AND IT DIFFERENT THINGS AND I THINK IT IS EXCITING WHEN PEOPLE FROM THE COUNTY USE THEIR EXPERIENCES HERE TO GET GREAT OPPORTUNITIES LIKE YOU HAVE GOTTEN AT THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND I HOPE THAT CONTINUES TO BE A TRENDS FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN GET GREAT EXPERIENCES AT THE COUNTY AND GO INTO OTHER PLACES TOO. CONGRATULATIONS. YOU WILL BE MISSED AND VERY HARD TO REPLACE AND VERY FRESH I HAVE IT FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: MARIA. >> I WAS GOING TO KIND OF SAIL OFF INTO THE SUNSET PRIVATELY, BUT SINCE I'M HERE, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A BRIEF OPPORTUNITY TO THANK NOT ONLY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT BUT ALL OF MY PAST AND PRESENT COLLEAGUES. I HAVE MET SOME REALLY GREAT PEOPLE WORKING HERE. AND I HAVE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD EXPERIENCES. I HAD BAD EXPERIENCES. THE JUDGE SUMMED IT UP. I HAVE GROWN UP HERE. I STARTED HERE AS A SINGLE MOTHER AND NOW A MARRIED GRANDMOTHER. I MET MY HUSBAND WHEN I WORKED AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. HE IS HAPPILY RETIRED FROM THE COUNTY. AND MY DAUGHTER WATCHED ME GET PROMOTIONS HERE. I GOT MY MASTER'S DEGREE HERE. I AM NOT A DEMOCRAT, BUT I EVEN MET PRESIDENT OBAMA BECAUSE OF MY WORK AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO I AM VERY GRATEFUL TO THE COUNTY AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY THAT I MET ALONG THE WAY. AND, YOU KNOW, I -- I STILL HAVE ANOTHER 20 PLUS YEARS TO GIVE TO AN ORGANIZATION AND IT WAS THE RIGHT TIME AND RIGHT POSITION FOR ME TO CONTINUE TO GROW. AGAIN, I AM VERY GRATEFUL TO THE COUNTY AND GRATEFUL TO -- I DON'T START MENTIONING NAMES BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO FORGET PEOPLE AND OFFEND ANYBODY. BUT I HAVE THE MOST AMAZING COLLEAGUES. I MET, YOU KNOW ONE OF ANY BEST FRIENDS AND FRIENDS WITH ROXY AND NATALIE. I WON'T BE FAR AWAY BUT DOWN THE STREET STILL IN PUBLIC SERVICE. I AM EXCITED TO SERVE NUECES COUNTY IN A NEW ROLE AND IN A NEW OFFICE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU ARE VERY DESERVING OF ALL OF THIS PRAISE AND SO MUCH MORE AND WE WILL [00:45:04] SEE YOU AND JUST BE DOWN THE STREET. I THINK YOU STILL HAVE WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY AND FR FRIDAY. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY AND FRIDAY AND WE HOPE TO SPEND AS MUCH TIME WITH YOU IN THE TIME WE HAVE LEFT. I KNOW ON BEHALF OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WE ARE ALSO INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL. LOUISE IS ECHOING THAT. ON BEHALF OF MELISSA BEFORE. AND YOU WILL GET TO WORK WITH DANIEL HALE WHO USED TO BE OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR. SO WE ARE WISH YOU THE BEST. THANK YOU, MARIA. AT THIS TIME KNOWING I HAVE GOT FOLKS THAT TRAVELED TO BE WITH US AND HAVE IMPORTANT DUTIES. LOUIE IF YOU HOLD. I WILL ADVANCE TWO ITEMS THAT I THINK WILL HELP THEM GET TO THEIR WORK. WE NEED TO VOTE. YOU ARE RIGHT. JUST A CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION. >> I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. THANK YOU, THOUGH. [1. Receive introduction of the candidate for the Texas Agrilife Extension Service Agriculture and Natural Resources County Extension Agent position; discuss and consider approval of appointment to the position.] APPRECIATE IT I WILL MOVE TO 3 A 1 FOR THE COUNTY EXTENSION AGENT. THE AGRILIFE EXTENSIVE SERVICE AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL RESOURCES EXTENSION AGENT. AND REQUIRES COMMISSIONERS COURT'S APPROVAL. AND THIS IS THE -- AS THEY SAY WE LOOKED LONG AND HARD AND WIDE FOR THE PERFECT PERSON. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE HERE TO INTRODUCE HIM TO US TODAY. >> THAT IS CORRECT, JUDGE. DONNIE REPRESENTING THE TEXAS A & M AGRILIFE SERVICE AS ADMINISTRATOR. I APPRECIATE TO BE HERE AND MEMBERS OF THE COURT. I WANTED TO INTROYOUR FINALIST THAT REPLACED JASON AS THE AG AND NATURAL RESOURCE AGENT. WE DO NEED YOUR APPROVAL ASSOCIATED WITH APPROVING ON THE COUNTY PORTION OF THE SALARY AS WELL. I WANTED TO INTRODUCE INTROTO YOU MR. JAIME LOPEZ. A NAY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. A GRADUATE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL THERE. AND A GARAGE WAIT OF TEXAS A & I UNIVERSITY. ACTUALLY WENT TO SCHOOL THERE WHEN I DID AS WELL. SO HE IS -- IN MY OPINION, HE IS A REALLY GOOD FIT FOR SOME OF THE EXPERIENCES HE HAD. HE HAS MANAGED FORMS IN MINNESOTA. HE HAS MANAGED FRITO-LAY PLANTS IN LUBBOCK AND SAN ANTONIO. AND HE HAS BEEN A DIRECTOR OF THE BEXAR COUNTY LIVESTOCK SHOW AND FAIR. HE HAS THE SKILLS AND THE GUIDANCE OF THE PROGRAMS IN NUECES COUNTY PROVIDING SUPPORT FOR THE AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY AND THE JUNIOR LIVESTOCK SHOW WHICH IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN OUR AREA. WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MR. LOPEZ. HE WOULD ACTUALLY START WITH YOUR APPROVAL ON MARCH 1, NEXT TUESDAY. HE WILL TRAVEL COLLEGE STATION FOR ORIENTATION FOR THE REST OF THE WEEK. AND THEN HE WOULD COME BACK TO WORK I BELIEVE ON FRIDAY TO ROBSTOWN. A TWO-YEAR ON-BOARDING PROCESS THAT I WILL PROVIDE HIM SUPPORT WITH OTHER AGENTS AROUND THE AREA AND GUIDANCE OF INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY HERE AS WELL. WITH THAT, I WOULD APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S VOTE IN WELCOME BUILDING LOPEZ. ALSO HE IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. >>JUDGE CANALES: WONDERFUL, MR. LOPEZ AND CONGRATULATIONS FOR HAVING BEEN PRESENTED BEFORE THIS BODY TO BE APP APPROVED. I READ YOUR RESUME AND YOU ARE FROM BIENVIDES, TEXAS. >> MY FAMILY. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU IT CAN'T BE FROM NUECES COUNTY, YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE FROM DUVAL COUNTY. WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO YOU HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY OPENING REMARKS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO. BUT DONNIE DID A GOOD JOB OF SETTING THE TABLE. I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU HOW IMPORTANT THE JUNIOR LIVESTOCK SHOW BEHIND US. WE INVITE YOU TO STAY AND THEN BE FREE TO SHOW. BUT RECEIVE A PRESENTATION REGARDING OUR 2022 JUNIOR LIVESTOCK SHOW. IT WAS INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL AS IT ALWAYS IS. BUT THIS IS THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE NEXT GENERATION OF MAKING CERTAIN WE ARE CARRYING ON OUR RICH SOUTH TEXAS TRADITIONS AND WE NEED SOMEONE TO NOT JUST DO THE JOB COMPETENTLY BUT WE NEED SOMEBODY TO FEEL THAT JOB, TO [00:50:02] REALLY LOVE DOING IT. BECAUSE THESE CHILDREN PUT ALL OF THEIR HEART AND SOUL IN THEIR ANIMALS AND IN THEIR PROJECTS AG, PHOTOGRAPHY, H HOMEMAKING. SOMETHING I WANTED IN THIS INDIVIDUAL. SOMEBODY THAT BE WOULD LOVE AND CARE FOR THE STOCK SHOW AND PLEASES ME THAT YOU HAVE THAT BEXAR COUNTY EXPERIENCE. LARGER THAN OURS BUT NOT AS IMPORTANT AS OURS. I THINK DONNIE, FL O, WE ARE THE LARGEST JUNIOR LIVESTOCK SHOW IN TEXAS. SO PLEASE, SIR, WE WELCOME. >> YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMIS COMMISSIONERS. ANY QUESTIONS? ANY THOUGHTS? NORMA IS HERE AS WELL AND WANT TO RECOGNIZE NORMA WITH THE EXTENSION OFFICE AND PARTICULARLY WITH WELLNESS. I HAVEN'T BEEN ATTENDING -- I NEED TO. BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL THE GREAT WORK YOU ARE DOING FOR WELLNESS AND PARTICULARLY IN THE WORK OF DIABETES. WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE -- COMMISSIONERS, I SEE A HAND? IT IS HARD -- NO? SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE APPOINTMENT, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. GREAT. WELCOME TO NUECES COUNTY. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH JUDGE JUDGE WE HOPE YOUR TRAINING GOES WELL AND WE WILL SEE YOU IN ROBSTOWN NEXT WEEK. >> THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: IN ORDER TO [2. Receive presentation on 2022 Nueces County Junior Livestock Show.] FACILITATE, FRIENDS FROM THE STOCK SHOW. ITEM NUMBER 2 IS TO RECEIVE THAT PROCLAMATION. STEVEN, WELCOME. FL O, WELCOME. >> WELCOME. NICE TO MEET YOU. BOY HAVE WE GOT A GREAT REPORT FOR YOU. STEVEN IS WITH ME AND I WILL START AND HE IS GOING TO FILL IN. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. WE ARE GOING TO BRIEFLY GIVE YOU AN UPDATE. WE HAD A GREAT 2022 NUECES COUNTY LIVESTOCK SHOW. BROKE THE RECORD. I WILL GIVE THAT YOU NUMBER. A GREAT HORSE SHOW. GREAT COMPETITION. HUGE CONTEST. GREAT BARBECUE COOK. AG, HOMEMAKING, ALL OF OUR ANIMALS. OUR VENDERS DID VERY WELL. WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK JASON GREEN AND EDWARD HERRERA. THEY WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY. WE HAD TO DO A LOT OF SHUFFLING FROM WAREHOUSE TO WAREHOUSE AND EDWARD MADE IT ALL HAPPEN. WE PUT IT ALL BACK AND HAD A LOT OF COVID STUFF OUT THERE AND THEY MOVED IT ALL FOR US. AND IT WAS GREAT. BEFORE I GIVE YOU THE GREAT NUMBER, THE BIG NUMBER, WE HAD 844 EXHIBITORS THIS YEAR AND LEAVE THIS SHEET WITH MAGGIE TO HAVE ALL OF THAT TO REFERENCE. I WOULD LIKE STEVEN TO TALK ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL HEIFER SHOW WHICH WAS A HUGE SUCCESS THIS YEAR. >> THE COMMERCIAL HEIFER CONTEST IS THE NEWEST CONTEST IN OUR COUNTY SHOW. TWO COMMERCIAL HEIFERS AND ADDED A BRED DIVISION THIS PAST YEAR AND IN AN EFFORT FOR THE NUECES COUNTY KIDS TO BE ABLE TO SHOW AND EXHIBIT A COMMERCIAL SET OF REPLACEMENT HEIFERS SO THEY CAN EITHER GROW THEIR OWN HERD AND/OR JUST TO GIVE THEM THAT EDUCATION OF WHAT IT TAKES TO RAISE AN ANIMAL FOR BEEF PRODUCTION. AND THE KIDS HAVE DONE REALLY WELL. THIS WAS OUR FOURTH OR FIFTH YEAR. WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD COMM COMMITTEE. I AM A CO-CHAIR ON THE COMMITTEE WITH DR. PENNINGTON AS MY COHORT. WEDS 38 PENS THAT REGISTERED FOR THE SHOW. 35 THAT SHOWED UP. WE RAISED THE TOTAL IN OUR SALE ENDED UP $776,100. ON TOP OF THAT, OUR COMMITTEE REACHES OUT THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY FOR SPONSORSHIPS FOR -- SO THAT -- SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT THE KIDS AT LEAST BREAK EVEN. BEING A COMMERCIAL CONTEST, SOME OF THE KIDS DON'T -- THEY DON'T GET TO PICK THROUGH GRANDMA AND GRANDPA'S SADDLE AND HAVE A PREMIUM AND RIG RIGHTFULLY SO. AND THE CREAM OF THE CROP, THE PICK OF THE LITTER WHEN IT COMES TO THE CATTLE AND TO MAKE SURE THOSE KIDS MAKE A LITTLE BIT UNMANUFACTURE AWN AT LEAST BREAK EVEN, WE WERE ABLE TO RAISE A TOTAL OF -- BETWEEN IN KIND AND CASH DONATIONS ALMOST [00:55:01] $75,000. WE DIVVIED THAT UP FROM EACH CONTESTANT TO MAKE THEIR WHEN IT IS ALL SAID AND DONE EVERYBODY IS TREATED EQUALLY WITH THE FACT THAT THEY ALL WORKED JUST AS HARD. AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO COME TO THE SHOW AND COMMERCIAL KETTLE. AND BUSINESS AND DEVELOPING REPLACEMENT FEMALES. SO IT IS ABOUT ALL I HAVE ON THAT ONE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, STEVEN. MINE ARE ALREADY HAVING BABIES. MY MAMAS ARE DOING GREAT. MY DAD SAYS I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU KNOW THAT. YOU ARE NOT FEEDING THEM. BUT I SEE THE PICTURES. AND NOW ON A SERIOUS NOTE, THEY ARE INCREDIBLE. WE ARE A RANCHING FAMILY, AND THEY FIT RIGHT IN WITH OUR HERD. AND THIS IS THE RIGHT -- RIGHT WAY TO NOT ONLY HELP THE CHILDREN BUT TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY OF RANCHERS. BECAUSE IF YOU NEED A GOOD -- A GOOD PAIR -- YOU WILL FIND A GOOD BREEDING PAIR RIGHT THERE. . >> WE ARE EXPECTING THE SHOW TO CONTINUE GROWING. THE DIFFERENT FOLKS I SPOKE TO DURING THE SHOW. WE HAVE FOUR SENIORS GRADUATING OUT OF THE CONTEST THIS YEAR. AND I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY I EXPECT SIX TO EIGHT ADDITIONAL -- UP TO TEN ADDITIONAL PENS NEXT YEAR. AND THEN WE WILL GET INTO A CONVERSATION OF NEEDS UP AT THE FAIRGROUNDS. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL OF THIS TAKES PLACE IN OUR EQUESTRIAN CENTER. A HUGE NEXUS BETWEEN OUR FACILITIES AND WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO FOR THESE CHILDREN FOR THEIR COLLEGE EDUCATION. DON'T THINK FOR A SECOND THAT ALL THIS HAPPENS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE. IT ONLY HAPPENS BECAUSE WE HAVE A FIRST-CLASS INFRASTRUCTURE AT OUR EQUESTRIAN CENTER AND EXHIBIT HALLS. OUR COMMERCIAL HEIFER. HAPPENS IN OUR HORSE ARENA. FIRST CLASS. I HAVE BEEN TO HOUSTON AND SAN ANTONIO. AND I HAVEN'T BEEN TO DALLAS. AND WE ARE FIRST CLASS OF HOW WE HANDLE OURSELVES. WE HAVE A FIRST-CLASS ENVIRONMENT, AND THAT IS IMPORTANT, COMMISSIONERS, BECAUSE YOU INVESTED A LOT OF DOLLARS AND THE RATE OF RETURN IS VERY HIGH FOR OUR CHILDREN. >> OUTGOING FROM PEN ARRANGEMENTS AND MORE THAN THINKING WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME. IT APPEARS WE WILL PRESENT TO THE LIVESTOCK SHOW BOARD IN MARCH OR APRIL. SOME RULE CHANGES AND WE WILL HAVE TO ADD AN EXTRA DAY TO OUR CONTEST JUST BECAUSE THE KIDS GO THROUGH AN INTERVIEW CON CONTEST. THE CATTLE ARE JUDGED. WHEN YOU HAVE 35 KIDS THAT GO -- SIT IN FRONT OF THREE CA CATTLEMEN. COMMERCIAL CATTLEMEN OR RUN SALE BARNS. THE KIDS INTERVIEW AND WATCHING THE KIDS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, YOU HAVE THE LITTLE SHY KID THAT YEAR NUMBER TWO WALKED STRAIGHT INTO THE ARENA AND RIGHT UP TO THE CATTLEMAN SHAKES THEIR HAND AND STARTS TELLING THOSE GENTLEMEN WHAT THEY KNOW ABOUT THE BUSINESS AND IT HAS BEEN A REALLY GOOD EXPERIENCE FOR THE KIDS THAT ARE THERE. IT GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY STAND IN FRONT OF A SET OF ADULLS AND TELLS THEM WHAT THEY LEARN AND TELL THEM ABOUT THEIR CATTLE AND IMPRESSIVE TO SEE THE GROWTH. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. >> RUMORER IS SHERIFF HOOPER WILL BE PART OF THE COMMERCIAL HEIFER. THE OTHER THING WE WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE KIDS SHOWING IN SAN ANTONIO LAST WEEK AND THIS WEEK AND SOME OF THEM HAVE MADE THAT SALE AND THIS IS A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT TO MAKE THE SAN ANTONIO LIVESTOCK SALE. I WILL GIVE YOU THE BIG NUMBER AS OF YESTERDAY. $2,272,913.59. AND I WILL TELL YOU, JUDGE, THE MONEY IS STILL COMING IN. RENEE GOES EVERY DAY. THE MAILBOX IS FULL. AND THEY ARE JUST -- PEOPLE ARE CALLING IN. THEY ARE DOING THE ADD-ONS STILL. IT IS AN EXCITING YEAR. AND THAT IS A RECORD FOR THE STOCK SHOW. AND ONCE YOU BREAK THAT RECORD, IT MAKES YOU WANT TO GROW EVEN MORE. WE WAITED AND WAITED TO GET TO THAT POINT. WE ARE THERE. IT LOOKS -- IT GETS EVEN BETTER AND KEEP YOU UPDATED ON THAT NUMBER, BUT -- >>JUDGE CANALES: THIS IS A RECORD BREAKER. >> YES, MA'AM. THAT NUMBER COULD BE $3 MILLION VERY EASILY. AND ALL THAT COMES BACK TO THE KIDS EXCEPT A CERTAIN PERCENT FOR ADMINISTRATION FEES AND EVERYBODY HAS TO HAVE ADMINISTRATION FEES, BUT IT IS VERY MINIMAL. I WANT TO THANK THE COURT, JUDGE, FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE AT THOSE FAIRGROUNDS. I THINK THEY ARE THE MOST OUTSTANDING ARENA AROUND. I THINK WE PINCH OURSELVES ALL [01:00:03] THE TIME THAT FACILITY IS EVEN THERE AND COMPARED TO THE OLD SHOW BARN, HARD TO BELIEVE THAT KIDS SHOWED IN THAT PLACE. BUT THEY DID. ALL THIS MUD. IT WAS GREAT. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. GREATLY APPRECIATED BY ALL OF THE VOLUNTEERS AND KIDS. STEVEN. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THE AMAZING VOLUNTEERS. IT IS INCREDIBLE. IT'S -- I DON'T THINK ANYBODY UNDERSTANDS HOW MANY HUMAN BEINGS TO PUT ON A SHOW FOR THAT LENGTH OF TIME AND THE CATEGORIES. I AM SO GRATEFUL WHO-TO-HAVE OUR AG EXTENSION AGENT. BECAUSE IT IS HARD TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN THAT LEADERSHIP ROLE. THE KIDS NEED TO SEE ROLE MODELS AND LEADERS. VERY EXCITING. FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO DO -- EVEN THOUGH THAT NUMBER IS TERRIFIC, LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT 800 PARTICIPANTS THAT THERE IS ALWAYS SOME THAT ARE NOT GETTING WHAT OTHERS ARE GET GETTING. PLEASE DON'T LET THAT NUMBER. CALL OUR OFFICE 808-444. WE ARE ADDING ON TO ADD-ONS. WE HAVE A -- 501-C-3. YOU MAKE IT TO THE NATIONAL JUNIOR LIVESTOCK SHOW AND YOU CAN MEMO IT. WE ARE BEATING THE PAVEMENT BECAUSE WE KNOW PEOPLE COULDN'T ATTEND COVID AND OTHERWISE WHO WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO ADD-ON. WE DON'T DO THAT AT OUR OFFICE, THE COUNTY JUDGE, AND THE JUNIOR LIVESTOCK SHOW. ONCE IT COMES HERE, WE FORWARD IT ON. HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT YOU CAN STILL DO THAT FOR A WEEK OR T TWO. >> THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR YOUR SUPPORT. >>JUDGE CANALES: AWESOME. GREAT YEAR. >> EXCUSE ME, JUDGE, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM 13. >>JUDGE CANALES: HANG ON JUST ONE SECOND. LET ME -- I THINK WHAT YOU MEAN IS -- YOU MEAN -- IS IT REGULAR AGENDA ITEM 13 THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO TABLE, IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE ASKING? >> YES, MA'AM. >>JUDGE CANALES: WELL, THAT IS AN ITEM THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR -- FOR DISCUSSION IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO I WILL -- WELL, WE WILL PULL IT FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. [1. February 9, 2022 February 14, 2022] >>JUDGE CANALES: LET ME GET THE MINUTES DONE. FEBRUARY 9 AND FEBRUARY 14. DO I HAVE A MOTION? >> SO MOVED. >> AND SECOND TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SE SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: A LITTLE [1. Discuss disaster preparedness and response, including matters related to COVID-19, Emergency Orders, severe weather, flooding, drainage, economic recovery, state and federal assistance, American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA), Emergency Rental Assistance Program (ERAP), and infrastructure status, and other related matters.] DELAY BUT ALL TO HE WAS IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. ALL RIGHT, WE WILL GET TO GENERAL INFORMATION REPORTS AND MOVING SWIFTLY HERE. TRUST ME. I KNOW HOW THESE THINGS GO. WE ARE DOING WELL. GOOD MORNING, SIR. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. REAL QUICKLY, SUMMARY REPORTS. AS OF LAST WEEK, WE HAD A NUMBER OF FIRES THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING OUTSIDE IN THE RURAL AREA OF OUR COUNTY. WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THIS IS A -- THIS IS A CONSTANT PROBLEM RIGHT NOW. PROBABLY WILL BE A PROBLEM THAT WILL LAST FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS OR SO. EVEN THOUGH THIS WEEK WE WERE SCHEDULED TO HAVE SOME PARTICIPATION COME THROUGH IN THE FORM OF SOME TYPE OF LIGHT RAIN, IT IS GOING TO GET COLD. WHEN IT IS COLD, PEOPLE LIKE TO BURN THINGS TO STAY WARM. WE ARE ASKING THE PUBLIC TO MAKE SURE THEY PAY ATTENTION TO THEIR FIRES. WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR A BURN BAN AS OF YET. I AM TALKING TO THE COUNTY COUNTY MARSHAL. COVID-19. COVID-19 TESTING ONE TIME PER WEEK. IT HAPPENS ON THURSDAY. SO EVERYBODY MAKE PLANS FOR THAT. STARTING FROM 9 TO 3. SO FOR THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICE ITSELF WE ARE STILL PREPARING FOR HURRICANE THAT WILL HAPPEN IN MAY. AND WE ARE UPDATING OUR EM PLANTS. EM PLANTS WE USE ANNEXES AS PART. EVERYBODY IS GOING WHAT IS CALLED THE EMERGENCY SUPPORT FUNCTION. ESF. ESM IS WHAT FEMA RECOGNIZES AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO COMBINE THOSE ANNEXES INTO PARTS OF ESFS AND REACH OUT TO THING [01:05:03] THAT HAVE A PART IN THOSE PARTICULAR ESFS. 14 DIFFERENT ONES TO INCLUDE RECOVERY SUPPORT FUNCTION WHICH IT HAS SIX MORE PARTS TO IT AS WELL. OTHER THAN THAT, COMMISSIONERS, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. >> I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE BURN BAN. WAS A BURN BAN ISSUED? >> WE HAVE NOT ISSUED ONE, COMMISSIONER. >> TO LOOK AT IT REAL CLOSELY. WHAT ARE THE LEVELS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT? MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IN THE RANGE OF 400 TO 600. WHAT IS THE RANGEJS AND THE LEVELS WE ARE LOOKING AT THERE IS A LEVEL 400 AND LEVEL 600. BUT I JUST -- I THINK WE GOT TO REALLY, REALLY LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON DOWN THERE. >> THAT IS TRUE. >> I KNOW A LOT OF FIRES GOING ON THE WIND IS NOT THAT GOOD EITHER. MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DO THESE BURN BANS WHEN THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DONE AND NOT TAKING ANY CHANCES. BUT WHAT I AM ASKING -- I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE LEVELS ARE RIGHT NOW ON -- ON THE -- ON RANGE. WAS IT KBDI? I NEED TO KNOW THE RANGE OF IT AND WHERE WE ARE AT. ARE WE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT OR A HIGH PORTION OF IT OR WHERE? >> FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, COMMISSIONER, I THINK WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT RIGHT NOW. I HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECKS THE KDI, THE WILDFIRE AGENCY SENT OUT AN INFORMATION PACKET EVERY YEAR AND I HAVEN'T SAT DOWN TODAY TO SPOKE WITH CHIEF ALAVARES EITHER. GIVING YOU ACCURATE INFORMATION ON THAT RIGHT NOW WOULD BE NOT WHAT I HAVE. BUT I CAN GET THAT TO YOU TO TODAY. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: THANKS FOR BRINGING IT UP. IT IS IMPORTANT AND I NOTICED LAST WEEK -- AS WE ALL DID -- NEWS STORIES OF BURNS GETTING -- ON PEOPLE'S PROPERTY OUT OF CONTROL. I AM GLAD THAT YOU ARE BRINGING THAT AWARENESS BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS REAL IMPORTANT THAT WE TALK ABOUT THAT. I KNOW BECAUSE OF THE WIND AS WELL. WE HAVE THOSE RED FLAG WARNINGS AND JUST IN GENERAL. YOU SEE THEM OFF IN THE DISTANCE. THE CONTROLLED ONE AND PLANNED ONES GET OUT OF HAND AND HAVING EMERGENCY SERVICES OVER THERE. THANK YOU FOR MAKING US AWARE. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET ME POINT OUT AND MAY BE OVERLOOKED BUT WE HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM. ITEM NUMBER 8, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADOPTING AN ORDER OF OUTDOOR BURNING OF NUECES COUNTY PUSH OPPORTUNITY TO SECTION 352. I THINK WHAT WE WILL DO -- I THINK HE IS AVAILABLE -- HE IS NOT AVAILABLE? I THINK I SAW THAT THE FIRE MARSHAL WOULD COME TO SPEAK TO US. HE IS ONLINE? OKAY. I CAN ADVANCE ITEM NUMBER 8 JUST WHY LOUIE IS HERE SO WE CAN ALL BE ON THE SAME TRAIN OF THOUGHT AS WE ARE TALKING KBI. I WANTS TO YOU NOTE THAT UNLIKE OTHER -- SUPER INTERESTING. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT YOUR STATUTES. AS I SAID THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE. LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE WITH BURN BAN BANS DOES NOT ALLOW THE COUNTY JUDGE. THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY PROHIBIT AND RESTRICT OUTDOOR BURNING FOR A BURN BAN ORDER AND LASTS FOR 90 DAYS. THE PURPOSE OF ITEM NUMBER 8 IS TO AUTHORIZE THE FIRE MARSHAL IF A CERTAIN LEVEL, IN MY OPINION, WAS MET TO INSTITUTE THE BURN BAN. AND OF COURSE TO TERMINATE IT, WE HAVE TO AUTHORIZE HIM TO TERMINATE IT. WE CAN DO THAT WITHOUT FURTHER ACTION UNDER THE STATUTE. SO IT IS THERE FOR US DEPENDING ON WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE. WE HAVE DRY CONDITIONS WITH WIND AND NOW WE ARE ABOUT TO GET THE OPPOSITE WHICH WILL ALSO IN A STRANGE WAY FUEL OF BURNING OF SUBSTANCES. SO I AM HAPPY TO -- DID YOU TELL ME HE'S ON? DO YOU MIND, LOUIE? LET'S TALK TO JOSE SO WE ALL KNOW WHAT HIS RECOMMENDATIONS IS AND WHAT THESE -- WHAT THESE PARTICULAR LEVELS ARE. JOSE, WILL YOU UNMUTE IF YOU ARE AVAILABLE? MARSHAL? AND DON'T KNOW IF HE IS JUST ON -- I THINK HE SAID HE COULD BE ON BY 11. OKAY. I WILL TELL YOU WHAT, WILL GIVE YOU TIME, LOUIE. YOU CAN TALK TO HIM. [01:10:01] YOU COME BACK TOGETHER. WE HAVE SOME TIME BEFORE WE GET TO ITEM NUMBER 8. WE CAN TAKE ACTION IF YOU TWO PUT IT TOGETHER AND THINK IT IS WAR RANKED, MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION AND THE COURT CAN TAKE AN ACTION. >> EXCUSE ME, JUDGE, IF THE MARSHAL MAKES SOME KINDS OF RECOMMENDATION, IS IT LEGAL SINCE HE HAS NOT BEEN CERTIFIED YET? >>JUDGE CANALES: WE ARE CREATING THE ORDER. THE ORDER IS FROM US. >> NOT FROM THE FIRE MARSHAL. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE HAVE NOT HAD A FIRE MARSHAL IN THIS COURT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: NEEDS TO BE A COURT ADMINISTRATOR, TYNER. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. >> JUDGE, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL -- >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL CALL ON YOU TO TABLE ANOTHER ITEM. >> SORRY. .>JUDGE C >>JUDGE CANALES: JUAN WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENTS OF THE BURN B BAN. ON BURN BAN? I AM TRYING TO FINISH OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT REPORT. IF IT IS BURN BAN, WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. AGAIN, SINCE I DON'T HAVE THE FIRE MARSHAL WITH ME RIGHT NOW, AFTER LOUIE FINISHES HIS REPORT. HE WILL CONFER WITH HIM, AND THEN COME BACK WITH ITEM NUMBER 8 AT SOME POINT. LET'S GET -- I GUESS WE WILL GET BACK ON TRACK. ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOUR END? >> NOT JUST FOR GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENTS. >> JUDGE, I WANT TO DISCUSS ITEM 3, RIGHT AFTER THE NUECES COUNTY LIVESTOCK SHOW. >>JUDGE CANALES: REGULAR AGENDA ITEM 3? I AM HEADED THERE. LOUIE, MAKE SURE HE IS FINISHED H-1. IF YOU WOULD MIND TO WORK WITH JOSE AND BY ITS TIME YOU GUYS COME BACK, WE SHOULD BE ON ITEM NUMBER 8. >> OKAY, JUDGE. [3. Receive presentation on the new relief route constructed by EPIC Midstream, LP in the Suburban Acres Subdivision.] >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHT. HAPPY TO ADVANCE BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A MEMBER HERE REPRESENTING EPIC MIDSTREAM. AND I THINK YOU WERE TRYING TO ADVANCE ITEM 3-A-3. THAT'S CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. HE IS FROM OUT OF TOWN. >>JUDGE CANALES: A PRESENTATION ON A NEW RELIEF ROUTE OF EPIC MIDSTREAM AND WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THAT BUT JUAN PIMENTAL. YOU WILL START US OFF AND THEN WILL YOU INTRODUCE US TO THE PROCESS. >> YES, SIR -- I MEAN, YES, MA'AM. GOOD MORNING. GERALD RICHARDSON IS WITH EPIC DISCUSSING THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT. A PRESENTATION THAT EPIC HAS PREPARED AND I WANT TO GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. FOR THE ALTERNATE ROUTE IN SUBURBAN ACRES FROM PECOS ROAD TO COUNTY ROAD 48. CALLED A RELIEF ROUTE DUE TO THE CONSTRUCTION THAT WAS DOWN IN FRONT OF SUBURBAN ACRES. THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS ALREADY FOR TWO YEARS. AND IT HAS BEEN COORDINATED. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS THE OVERALL AERIAL MAP OF THE RELIEF. ON THE BOTTOM PART, SUBURBAN ACRES. THE SUBDIVISION. AND TO THE RIGHT THE FUEL TANKS CONSTRUCTED PROBABLY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO TO THE TOP LEFT CORNER ON THE AERIAL, YOU SEE THE -- THE RED LINE. THAT IS GOING TO BE THE ROUTE WHERE IT TIES FROM COUNTY ROAD 48 WHICH IS ON THE NORTH SIDE. AND IT TIES BACK TO PECOS ROAD ON SUBURBAN ACRES TO THAT SOUTH SIDE ON THE CORNER ON THE BOTTOM PART. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A -- A CROSS SECTION OF THE PROPOSED ROAD THAT EPIC IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT WITHIN THE EASEMENT THEY ARE REQUIRING FROM THE OWNERS OUT THERE. MEETS OUR STANDARD REQUIREMENTS FOR COUNTY ROADS. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS AN OVERALL VIEW OF THE ROUTE THAT THAT THE NEW EXTENSION OF PECOS ROAD FROM PECOS FROM THE NORTH TO COUNTY ROAD 48. IT DOES A TURN TO THE LEFT AND THEN STRAIGHT AND A TURN TO THE RIGHT AND TIES INTO 48. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE AT THE BEGINNING POINT OF PECOS ROAD. THE MIDDLE PART OF THE ROAD. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS WHERE IT TIED INTO COUNTY ROAD 48. [01:15:03] WE WILL CALL IT AN INTER INTERSECTION. NEXT SLIDE CROSS SECTION MEET THE COUNTY REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ROADSIDE DITCHES AND THE ROAD SECTION AND REQUIREMENTS. NEXT SLIDE AND THAT'S IT. REVIEWING THE PLANS BY EPIC. WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD. I KNOW JOE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. JOE? WELCOME GERALD. JUST TO MAKE A POINT. WE DID NOT POST THE AGENDA TO ACTUALLY TAKE ANY ACTION, BUT WE CAN PROVIDE DIRECTION, PERHAPS, TO GET THAT ACCOMPLISHED. BECAUSE WE HAVE A COURT MEETING NEXT WEEK, YOU KNOW JUST DON'T WANT -- IF WE DON'T VOTE ON ANYTHING TODAY DON'T PANIC BECAUSE IT IS NOT NOTICED PROPERLY FOR THAT AND DON'T WORRY BECAUSE WE HAVE COURT NEXT WEDNESDAY AND TAKE THIS INFORMATION, BRING IT BACK AND TAKE ACTION AS SOON AS NEXT WEDNESDAY. >> I REMEMBER THE DAY WELL. >> NO MASK YET. A CHALLENGING TWO YEARS. WE HAVE THE SUBURBAN ACRES DUB VISION THAT YOU SAW. ONLY ONE ENTRY AND EXIT FROM THAT SUBDIVISION. WORKING WITH THE BONNER FAMILY THAT HAS ACREAGE ON COUNTY ROAD 48 AND SUBMITTED TO THEM THREE DIFFERENT ROUTES BECAUSE WE ARE GOING THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY. WE ENDED UP PICKING CATTLE -- THEY HAVE CATTLE THE PROPERTY WE WORKED WITH THEM AND ATTORNEY PWROOUSZ HAHN FOR THE LAST YEAR GETTING IT UNDER CONTRACT AND. THEY CHOSE THE ROUTE. THEY ARE HAPPY WITH IT. WE PRESENTED TO ENGINEERING PLANS WHICH THEY KICKED BACK TO OUR ENGINEER AND THEY MADE SEVERAL CHANGES. AND WE THINK THE. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING OUT. MAYBE IN 45 DAYS THAT WE WILL START CONSTRUCTION. ISSUE WITH CATTLE THAT WE HAVE TO DO FENCING FOR THE BONNERS. THREE ACRES TOTAL. A 60-FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY. TWO OUTPARCELS WHEN YOU DO THE TURN INTO PECOS LANE TO 48. FOR DRAINAGE, WE THINK IT WILL HELP. THERE ARE WATER ISSUES IN THE CORRIDOR AND WE FEEL LIKE 1709 ACRES, -- 1.09 ACRES THAT WE MITIGATE IN THE AREA. A GOOD FIT AND TRANSITION WP WELL. YOUR STANDARD IS VERY HIGH FOR CONSTRUCTION. WE WERE A BIT SURPRISED WHEN WE BID IT OUT THAT EPIC IS COMMITTED TO GET IT BUILT. >> WONDERFUL, A WIN WE NEEDED FOR THE COMMUNITY AND SAFETY AND SET THE PRECEDENT OF HOW WE DEVELOP, YOU KNOW, OTHER INDUSTRIAL LOCATIONS IN UNINCORPORATED AREAS WHEN WE ARE ADJACENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS GREAT. THE ONLY I THINK THAT YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT IS MAN, HOW DO WE MESSAGE IT WHEN WE GET STARTED BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. HOW YOU ARE BUILDING IT AND WHAT THE TIME FRAME IS. WE SAID WE WOULD HOPEFULLY PUT FORTH THOSE PARAMETERS IN A CONCISE WAY. PUT IT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE BUT ALSO SPECIFICALLY GEAR IT TO THOSE RESIDENTS. MAYBE WE CAN DO A DOOR HANGER. MAYBE YOU CAN HAVE A TOWN HALL TO TALK ABOUT IT. WE WILL WORK WITH YOUR TEAM AND WITH OUR NUECES COUNTY STAFF TO FIGURE OUT HOW BEST TO MESSAGE, BUT WE WANT TO SHARE WITH PEOPLE THAT WE DELIVERED ON OUR PROMISE TO TAKE CARE OF THEM ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT EVACUATION ROUTE. >> AGREED. >>JUDGE CANALES: ANY QUES QUESTIONS? >> GERALD, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GETTING IT DONE. I CAN SLEEP BETTER. MY NEIGHBORS WILL SLEEP BETTER AT NIGHT. I LIVE OUT IN THAT AREA. THE AREA IN PRECINCT 1. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GETTING IT DONE. >> IT WAS CHALLENGING WITH COVID. WE ONLY HAD ONE LAND OWNER TO DEAL WITH, SO WE HAD TO REALLY WORK ON APPEASING THEM WITH THE ROUTE. AND THEY HAVE BEEN GREAT. SO WE DO CLOSE FRIDAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: FANTASTIC. >> THANK YOU AS WELL FOR GETTING IT DONE. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: JUDGE, I JUST WANT TO COMMENT. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, SIR. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: THIS SHOWS WHEN COMMUNITY HAS CONCERN. OBVIOUSLY THEY BROUGHT IT UP. INDUSTRY -- LOCAL COMPANIES THAT ARE ESTABLISHED HERE WANT TO BE GOOD PARTNERS AND THAT'S WHAT YOU DID AND I STILL THINK [01:20:02] WE COULD HAVE TRIED TO AVOID IT EARLY ON IN THE BEGINNING BUT IT WAS WHAT IT WAS. I KNOW COMMISSIONER VAUGHN WAS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT IT AS WELL. AND COMMISSIONER MAREZ. THANK YOU FOR PASSING THIS FROM THE FINISH LINE AND TO EPIC. THIS IS THE MESSAGE LIKE THE JUDGE SAID. THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF LOOKING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE WHAT OUR COMMUNITY CAN DO AS FAR AS TRYING TO BUILD THE COHESION BETWEEN NEIGHBORS, NEIGHBORHOODS CLOSE TO INDUSTRY AT TIMES. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THE EFFORT IN. I CAN'T BELIEVE IT HAS BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS AND MAYBE THE COMMISSIONER STARTED RIGHT BEFORE HE LEFT AND COMMISSIONER VAUGHN HAD IT FOR MOST OF THE TIME WHILE SHE WAS THERE. THE FACT THAT IT IS COMING, LIKE, AS JUDGE SAID, WE WILL VOTE ON IT AND FINALIZE NEXT WEDNESDAY AND AT LEAST YOU DID YOUR PART AND HOPEFULLY THE COMMUNION RECOGNIZES THAT AND I APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING YOUR EFFORT AND TIME INTO IT. THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU SO MUCH. AGAIN THE DIRECTION IS FOR AWARENESS WE WILL NEED PROBABLY MULTIPLE ACTIONS. ONE, TO APPROVE GETTING GOING. AND ALSO, JUAN, JUST FOR TRANSPARENCY, WE WILL TAKE THIS ROAD OVER, IS THAT CORRECT, WHEN IT IS COMPLETE? >> THAT'S CORRECT, JUDGE. HE. >>JUDGE CANALES: HE WASN'T ON MIKE BUT THE ANSWER IS THAT'S CORRECT. I THINK THERE WAS A SITUATION WHERE CATTLE -- NEEDED TO BE MOVED AND MIGHT BE A 30-DAY DELAY. IN CASE EVERYBODY SAYS WHAT IS GOING ON. WE HAVE TO ISSUE TO WORK THROUGH. IF IT DOESN'T BELIEVE IT, DOESN'T FLY. SIGN A NOTE AT THE BANK. IT WILL FLY. WE WILL LOOK FORWARD TO AN UPDATE ONCE YOU BREAK GROUND. OKAY ALREADY, THANK YOU. SO THAT IS ONE, TWO AND THREE. I AM GOING TO GO BACK ALMOST TO [1. Coastal Bend Council of Governments] THE CONSENT. WE HAVE BOARD APPOINTMENTS, COG. THE COASTAL BEND COUNCIL OF GOCHTS. BELINDA WILL REALLY MAKE ANNOUNCEMENTS ON THIS ONE. I DON'T THINK WE VOTE ON THIS ONE. IS THAT CORRECT? OR A VOTE TO APPROVE. IT COMES. >> YOU DO VOTE TO APPROVE. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE VOTE TO APPROVE. WE MAKE THE SLATE, AND WE VOTE TO APPROVE. >> SO COMMISSIONER CHESNEY INITIALLY PUT THIS ITEM ON TO UPDATE THE ALTERNATE FROM PAUL TH URMAN TO PEYTON AND WE TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO -- THE RECOMMENDED APPOINTMENT FOR MEMBERS WILL BE HERNANDEZ IN PLACE OF TYNER LITTLE. LOUIE RAY. AND WITH REGARDS TO ALTERNATE, PEYTON IN PLACE OF PAUL THU THURMAN, PRISCILLA IN PLACE OF SANDRA. AND WE WILL HAVE TO COME BACK LATER TO DO A REPLACEMENT FOR DALE'S OFFICE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT NAME YET. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, OKAY. IT MAKES SENSE. PEOPLE WE ARE REPLACING BECAUSE THEY HAVE TAKEN ON THE NEW POSITION. IS THERE A MOTION. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: MOTION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: MAREZ AND CHESNEY. BOTH OF THEM DID IT AT THE SAME [2. Christus Spohn Health System Board of Trustees] TIME. THE SECOND ONE IS THE CHRISTUS SPOHN HEALTH SYSTEM BOARD OF TRUSTEES. TWO APPLICANTS DR. SHAW IS SLAM AND SEAN STRAWBRIDGE, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHT AND IS THERE A MOTION TO NOMINATE MR. DR. ISLAM. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: I HAVE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. OKAY, GREAT. AND JUST FOR CLARITY BECAUSE I KNOW IT CAME UP. DR. ISLAM IS CURRENTLY SERVING JUST THE ONE-YEAR TERM AS -- HE IS NOT A VOTING MEMBER. HE IS JUST A MEMBER OF THE CORPUS CHRISTI MEDICAL STAFF. SO THIS IS A REAL BOARD MEMBERSHIP, AS THEY SAY. NOT AN ADVISORY ONE. OKAY. SO I GUESS WHAT THAT MEANS IS HE WILL ROTATE OFF THE OTHER ONE THE OTHER ONE JUST [3. Corpus Christi Regional Transportation Authority Board of Directors] SERVING AS AN ADVISORY CAP CAPACITY. AND THIRD ONE IS THE CORPUS CHRISTI REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY BOARD. >> YOU YOU ALL DID VOTE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO RECUSE MYSELF ON THAT ONE. [01:25:01] >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, MA'AM. CORPUS CHRISTI REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY BOARD OF DIRECTORS. I HAVE GOT ONE EXTENSION. >> I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF. HE WORKS FOR ME. I PAY HIM. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS FINE. ONCE WE GET TO THE VOTED, WE WILL GET THAT DONE. >> FORCED RECORD. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE LAMONT TAYLOR. >> I ASK FOR MR. MUNOZ. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET ME B BACKTRACK AND TELL ME HOW YOU HEARD IT, BUT -- >> GET TO -- TWO NOMINATIONS. >> I HEARD THE JUDGE NOMINATE FIRST. >>JUDGE CANALES: APPRECIATE THAT. I HAVE GOT A MOTION. LET ME AT LEAST ASK FOR A SECOND AND GO THROUGH THE MOTIONS OF OTHERS. YES, MA'AM. LAMONT TAYLOR. AND IS THERE A SECOND FOR LAMONT TAYLOR? OKAY. SO NO SECOND. ALL RIGHT. IN THAT CASE, IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION? >> MR. MUNOZ. >> A SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE THIS FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED SAME TINE. NO. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: AYE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THERE IS AN AYE THERE. OKAY. HIS NAME IS AARON MUNOZ. AARON MUNOZ. AND -- ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT ONE [4. Nueces County Library Advisory Board] IS THE NUECES COUNTY LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. AND THIS ADVISORY BOARD HAS TWO NOMINATIONS. LINDA MACHO FROM MY MEMORY AND JESSICA MCCOMB. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: MOTION TO REAPPOINT, JUDGE. >> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE ABSTENTION WAS ON THE MUNOZ VOTE. NOT ON THE TAYLOR VOTE. ALL RIGHT. AND GOING TO GO FORWARD ON [2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.] CONSENT AGENDA AND ITEMS A-Q. I WILL PULL Q FOR THE BOB HALL PIER DEMOLITION TO RUSSELL MARINE BECAUSE IT IS NOTICED INSIDE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT I WANT TO ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT OF GUIDANCE FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT PIECE OF IT THAT WE DECIDED TO DEFER. I GUESS LET'S HANDLE THE CONSENT AGENDA AND USE THAT ONE AS A COME BACK TO. BUT I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF GUIDANCE. I THINK HE IS ALLOWED TO MAKE COMMENT AND WE CAN ACTUALLY RESPOND, THAT'S CORRECT? >> I WOULD NOT ADVISE RES RESPONDING SINCE IT HAS BEEN -- WE RECEIVED NOTE THAT THERE COULD BE A CLAIM. I WOULD NOT ADVISE RESPONDING BECAUSE THAT COULD BE ON THE RECORD. >>JUDGE CANALES: BUT WE CAN RECEIVE THE COMMENTS. LET'S TAKE THE CONSENT FIRST AND DEAL WITH LETTER Q AFTERWARDS. ITEMS A THROUGH B. AND ASK FOR A MOTION TO PLEASE APPROVE AT THIS TIME. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, I HAVE A COUPLE TO PULL. >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER MAREZ WAS IN MID SENTENCE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SORRY, I COULDN'T HEAR YOU. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: E. >>JUDGE CANALES: E AS IN ELEPHANT. ANYTHING ELSE, COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, GO AHEAD. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUST QUICK CLARIFICATION ON A FEW. G. M -- M AS IN MARY. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: O AS IN OSCAR. OF COURSE, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SPECIAL MOTIONS. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHICH ONE AGAIN. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NUMBER C, BUT I JUST -- >>JUDGE CANALES: LETTER C. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NUMBER 24. >>JUDGE CANALES: TELL ME WHERE 24 IS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: UNDER SPECIAL MOTIONS. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST NUMBER 24 INSIDE LETTER C. SO NOT REALLY ALL OF C JUST NUMBER 24 ON C. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: RI RIGHT. THAT IS GOOD. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S DO THIS. IF THAT IS ALL, PLEASE I WOULD LIKE A MOTION FOR -- AND I WILL SAY IT FOR THE CLERK. IT IS ITEM 7 -- SORRY, ITEM C, ALL BUT NUMBER 24, D, F, I, J, K, L, M AND P. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE SUCH LIST OPINION. [01:30:01] >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S OKAY. I WILL TAKE MINE AS A MOTION AND YOURS AS A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY. AND LET'S JUST TAKE IT IN OR [C. Authorize payment of bills - Special Motions List and Special Motion List - American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) dated February 23, 2022.] ORDER. SO HOW ABOUT YOUR SPECIAL MOTION ITEM NUMBER 24 COMMISSIONER. AND I WILL NEED TO TURN TO THAT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT MEMORIZED. >> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT. IS THAT TOWER TWO -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CAN I GET CLARIFICATION. NOT SHOWING WHAT HE HAS FOR 24. >>JUDGE CANALES: ITEM C, THAT LIST -- THE LIST IN YOUR B BACK-UP AND 24, THE TOWER TWO LEASE. TOWER TWO RENTAL SPACE. GO AHEAD. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I WANT TO KNOW WHOSE LEASE IS THAT? AND IS THAT SOMETHING WE JUST GOT AND WHO IS PAYING FOR THAT OR WHAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: YEAH, SO THIS IS -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: FROM OCTOBER 21 UNTIL NOW. >>JUDGE CANALES: MY RECOLLECTION FROM PREVIOUS COURTS, THIS IS SOUR NUECES COUNTY LEASE THAT IS BEING PAID BY THE 1115 WAIVER THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN, ALZHEIMER'S AND DEMENTIA RESEARCH GOING ON IN OUR COUNTY FOR 20 YEARS. WHEN THE HEALTH DISTRICT GOT EMBROILED WITH COVID. THEY WERE NO LONGER ABLE TO ACCESS THAT. AND THIS IS THE PAYMENT FOR THAT LEASE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SO NOT COMING OUT OF THE 1115 WAIVER ANYMORE. OUT OF THE GENERAL ACCOUNT? >>JUDGE CANALES: ELBA, I WILL HAVE TO REFER TO YOU. MAKE A 50/50. I RECALL THAT THE 11-15 WAIVER WAS ONE SOURCE IF NOT ALL. I DON'T RECALL. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SEVERAL DIFFERENT PAYMENTS. CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT THEY ALL RELATE TO. BECAUSE LOOKS LIKE FIVE DIFFERENT PAYMENTS ON HERE. RECALLED THAT THE NCDC MADE PAYMENTS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I NEED TO IDENTIFY WHICH IS WHICH IF THEY CAN CLARIFY. >>JUDGE CANALES: ELBA. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: TO CLARIFY WHO IS WHO AND WILL ANY OF THE LEASES CHANGE WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY WERE FOR AND WHAT THEY BECAME LATER. IF SOMEONE CAN ANSWER THAT, I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ PULLING THAT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: MAKE WE CAN TABLE IT AND GET A FULL REPORT. >>JUDGE CANALES: MY CONCERN IF WE ARE PAYING A LEASE -- WE ARE PAYING A LEASE AND YOU PAY LATE, YOU TYPICALLY GET A LATE PAYMENT OR INTEREST CHARGE OR SOMETHING. SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS DO ON MARCH 1. WE HAVE A LONG MEETING. WHY DOESN'T SHE TRY TO WORK ON IT AND IF WE CAN'T RESOLVE IT BY THE END OF THE MEETING, WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING IT BACK NEXT WEEK. BUT, AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL MATTERS THAT ARE EASILY ANSWERED IF WE GET THESE QUESTIONS. OUR AUDITOR IS NOT HERE WITH US. ELB A IS SITTING IN HIS PLACE. NOT HARD QUESTIONS. WE KNOW WE HAVE TWO LEASES AT TOWER TWO. WE KNOW WHAT THOSE PAYMENTS A ARE. I DON'T THINK IT WILL TAKE HER TOO LONG TO FIGURE IT OUT. WHY DON'T WE JUST HOLD ON IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE IF I CAN ASK ELBA OR WHOEVER IS SENDING IT. I SEE FIVE DIFFERENT PAYMENTS TO ME THAT INDICATES FIVE DIFFERENT LEASES AND MAYBE THAT IS NOT RIGHT. IF SOMEONE CAN E-MAIL US ALL OF US TODAY DURING THE MEETING TO POSSIBLY GO BACK TO IT AND LOOK AT EACH ONE OF THEM. THAT WILL BE HELPFUL. BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IT -- AND I DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO ASK THIS BEFORE, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ONE OF THESE LEASES -- IT MAY NOT BE RIGHT -- CHANGED IN COMPLEX THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY FOR ONE ONE THING GOING ON AND AND IT MAY BE EASILY EXPLAINED. IF SOMEONE CAN JUST E-MAIL THAT TO US. I CAN GET BACK TO IT BY THE END OF THE DAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S LET ELBA TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. MY RECOGNITION ONLY HAD TWO LEASES IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS AND I AM GETTING THE NODS HERE IN THE ROOM. AND, AGAIN, ITS TWO LEASES THAT WE HAVE FOR THE NCDC AND THE SECOND IS FOR THE FIRST FLOOR WHICH IS THE. I AM CALLING IT THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN STUDY. I THINK IT HAS A PROPER NAME, BUT ORIGINALLY, BCFS WAS LO LOCATED IN THERE. COLLOCATED WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN WHEN BCS LEFT, THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN STAYED. SO MAYBE THAT IS THE RECOLLECTION. BUT THAT IS THE ONLY CHANGE IN COMPLEXIO N. THAT DID NOT CHANGE THE LEASE [01:35:01] BUT MAYBE CHANGED THE PLAYERS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THOUGHT IT WAS A TENANT NAME CHANGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: NO BECAUSE NUECES COUNTY IS BOTH OF THEM. ALL KNOW I DO BELIEVE, AGAIN, THAT THE HEALTH DISTRICT MIGHT HAVE HAD SOME RESPONSIBILITY AT ONE POINT CONTINUE TO. AND SO I HAVE GOT TERESA WHO CAN ANSWER THAT MOST LIKELY. HOLD ON. GO AHEAD. UNMUTE. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. THESE PAYMENTS ARE FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN. IT WAS A JOINT AGREEMENT. THE FIRST PART B CFS. IT WAS PAID FROM THE ACCOUNT. THE SECOND HALF FROM THE 1115 WAIVER. AND IT WILL GO THROUGH THE END OF APRIL TO COMPLETE THIS LEASE. >>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT. >> IT THANKS BEEN AUTHORIZED BY ANNETTE RODRIGUEZ FOR THOSE FUNDS. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE 11 15 WAIVER IS THE SOURCE OF FUN FUNDING. THE CONFUSION IS IT IS LISTED FIVE TIMES. THAT IS THE CONFUSION. MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ELBA COLLABORATE ON THAT ONE. AND WE WILL BRING IT BACK. BUT I AGREE, I MEAN, THIS IS THE SAME -- THIS IS NOT NEW NOR IS THE FUNDING SOURCE NEW. NOR IS THERE ANY REAL SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE, JUST THE WAY THAT MAYBE IT IS REGI REGISTERED. IT MIGHT LOOK ODD. WE WILL GET YOU GUYS TO CLARIFY WHY IT IS LISTED MULTIPLE TI TIMES. I CAN'T -- >> EXCUSE ME, JUDGE, WE ARE PAYING FOR FIVE MONTHS. STARTS OCTOBER. >>JUDGE CANALES: THERE YOU GO. >> FIVE MONTHS THAT WE ARE PAYING. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS YOUR ANSWER, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. YOU ARE LOOKING AT FIVE MONTHS. YOU ARE LOOKING AT OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY AND FEBRUARY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU SAID THIS EXPIRED IN APRIL? >> YES, COMMISSIONER. >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, DID YOU HEAR THE EXPLANATION NATION. I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL YOU HEARD IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: TERESA WAS CRACKLING BADLY BUT I DID GET IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PAYMENTS ARE AND WHY THEY ARE LISTED FIVE TIMES. LISTED FOR EACH MONTH THAT WE OWE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YES, MA'AM. THAT IS FINE. >>JUDGE CANALES: SATISFACTORY. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, ARE YOU SATISFIED? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: FROM THE 11 15 WAIVER. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S CORRECT. A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. >> SO MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL SECOND [E. Approve the following "Outside Agency" Contracts for FY 2021-2022: 1. Amistad Community Health Center, Inc. - $1,200 - Commissioner Pct. 2 2. Boys & Girls Clubs of the Coastal Bend - Total - $1,500 Commissioner Pct. 2 - $1,000; Commissioner Pct. 3 - $500 3. Brooks Chapel A.M.E. Worship Center - $1,200 - Commissioner Pct. 1 4. Coastal Bend Food Bank - Total - $3,500 Banquete & Driscoll - $333.33 each; Bishop - $1,000; Corpus Christi - $1,833.34 Commissioner Pct. 1, Pct. 2 & Pct. 4 - $1,000 each; Commissioner Pct. 3 -$500 5. Wesley Community Center - Total - $1,800 Commissioner Pct.1 - $800; Commissioner Pct. 3 - $1,000] IT MYSELF. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY AYE. ITEM E. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ:U THANK YOU, JUDGE. DO WE STILL HAVE TERESA ON. >>JUDGE CANALES: THERE SHE IS. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I WANTED TO CLARIFY ON ITEM NUMBER 4 UNDER E. ON THE FOOD BANK. ORIGINALLY WHEN THE FISCAL YEAR BEGAN -- SORRY? >>JUDGE CANALES: GO AHEAD. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: UNDER COASTAL BEND FOOD BANK, I ORIGINALLY ALLOCATED MONEY TO THE KINNEY AND DRISCOL AREA AND NO LONGER IN MY PRECINCT BUT I WILL BE HELPING OUT COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ WITH SOME OTHER PROJECTS. I WAS JUST WONDERING IS THAT A PRORATED AMOUNT OR THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT. IF IT IS, I DON'T MIND KEEPING THE 500 THERE, BUT I NEED SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: TERESA, THAT WAS FOR YOU. $500 FOR PRECINCT 3 FOR THE FOOD BANK. WANTS TO KNOW IF THAT IS PRORATED. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I THINK IT IS A ONE-TIME PAYMENT, COMMISSIONER. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: ORIGINALLY I WAS DOING $1500 FOR THE YEAR. THAT IS WHY I THINK IT IS MAYBE PRORATED AND THIS IS FINE IF THAT IS THE CASE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, TERESA. >> COMMISSIONER MAREZ, YOUR SHARE IS $500 FOR THE FOOD B BANK. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: OKAY. AND THAT -- THAT IS ONE-TIME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOTION TO MOVE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL SE SECOND. [G. Authorize the execution of a Second Amendment to CDBG-CV TEMAP Contract No. 70100001005 with the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs for the Texas Emergency Mortgage Assistance Program (TEMAP).] ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. NOT SURE WHO PULLED LETTER J. THE SECOND AMENDMENT OF CDBG MAP. HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AWARE A ARE, THE T MAP PROGRAM. WHO PULLED THAT ONE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DID, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: GO AHEAD. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I KNOW THIS IS MORTGAGE. AND SO APPARENTLY A STORY RAN ABOUT THE REDOING -- SOMEONE READ IT AS RENTER STUFF. THAT IS A SEPARATE ISSUE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S CORRECT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I UNDERSTAND AND I DON'T SEE THAT ON THE AGENDA TODAY AND I THINK [01:40:03] -- IT IS GERMANE. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW EXACTLY THIS IS SET UP ON THE MORTGAGE PAYMENTS. AND ON THE RENTERS THAT IS ALSO SOMEWHAT RELATED TO THIS AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE ARE CUTTING THOSE CHECKS IF WE CAN INCLUDE THE LANDLORDS ON THOSE CHECKS BECAUSE I HAD SOME CALLS FROM THE JPS THAT SAID THAT SOMETIMES IF THE RENTERS GET THE CHECK AND THEY DON'T USE IT FOR THE RENT, THEN THE LANDLORD IS NOT GETTING PAID WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THIS FOR. IF SOMEONE WILL MAKE A POINT TO LOOK AT THIS FROM THE RENTERS STANDPOINT AND WE MAY ALREADY BE DOING IT, BUT A WAY TO ADD THE LANDLORD ON THE RENT ASSISTANCE CHECKS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LANDLORDS ARE GETTING PAID. THAT WILL BE HELPFUL AND THIS IS JUST A REQUEST. >>JUDGE CANALES: YEAH. SO I CAN HAVE -- SO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ERAP PROGRAM AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE HAVE ERAP ONE AND TWO. WE HAVE CONCLUDED OUR FUNDS FOR ERAP ONE AND ABOUT TO LAUNCH OUR ERAP TWO. WE HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC PORTAL AND POLICIES AND PRO THE COL AND WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK THOSE. I BELIEVE IT WAS ALREADY THE PROTOCOL. AND WE WILL GET THAT. MARIA IS NODDING MERE HEAD AND LATER WHEN HAGERTY IS ON THE CALL WITH US, YOU CAN. WE CAN CERTAINLY ASK, BUT TYPICALLY THE LANDLORD IS SOLICITED TO MAKE SURE THEY WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM. AND MARIA IS ALSO NODDING HER HEAD. I WILL LET MARIA UNMUTE SO YOU CAN CONFIRM WHAT I AM SAYING. >> THAT CORRECT, JUDGE. ALREADY PROTOCOLS IN PLACE. THEY ASK A LANDBOARD TO PROVIDE A W-9 FOR SWIM REASON. AND IF THE LANDLORD IS NOT COOPERATIVE OR DOES NOT PROVIDE THAT W-9 RATHER THAN HOLD UP THE TENANT'S APPLICATION. THIS IS SUBJECT TO ERAPP. MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE IS RUNNING DIFFERENTLY. WE ARE MAKING THE PAYMENTS TO THE MORTGAGE COMPANIES AND THROUGH THE SOCIAL SERVICE. ERAPP IS SORT OF THE LARGER BEAST FOR LACK OF THE BETTER WORD, BUT, YES, WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE THE PAYMENTS DIRECTLY TO THE LANDLORDS. IF SORE SOME OF REASON THEY ARE DEEMED UNCOOPERATIVE WE HAVE A W-9 AND MAKE THE DIRECT PAY PAYMENT. FEW AND FAR BETWEEN BUT IT DOES HAPPEN. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, PER PERFECT. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, DOES THAT HELP? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WOULD SAY, MARIA, IF A WAY TO SAFEGUARD -- EVEN IF THE LANDLORD DOESN'T RESPOND AND STILL HAVE THAT SITUATION ARISE AND PUT THE LANDLORD'S NAME ON IT. THE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN IS STILL HAPPENING ACCORDING TO THE JP. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THIS ONE. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, THANK YOU. WHY DON'T YOU E-MAIL US COPY, MARIA, NATALIE AND MYSELF AND WE HAVE A WEEKLY CALL WHERE WE CHECK ON EVERYTHING INCLUDING ERAPP AND HAVE THEM REACH OUT TO THE JP. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF YOU PUT JUDGE RODRIGUEZ. SHE IS RESIDING FOR THE JPS. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL DO BOTH. I HAVE A MOTION FROM YOU, COMMISSIONER. A SECOND FROM GONZALEZ. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. [M. Approve amended Nueces County policy regarding the Medical Examiner's office.] THAT TAKES G. AND NOW COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. YOU PULLED M AS IN MARY. THE ME'S OFFICE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I APOLOGIZE. DIDN'T MEAN TO CUTS YOU OFF. IT IS HARD ON THIS DELAY, I APOLOGIZE. REALLY ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS TO GET SOMEONE TO JUST READ INTO THE RECORD WHAT WE ARE DOING ON THIS TODAY BECAUSE SO MUCH SENSE SENSITIVITY AROUND ALL THIS. IF SOMEONE CAN DO THAT SO WE ARE CLEAR, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: PITCH TO COUNTY ATTORNEY TO READ IT INTO THE RECORD. >> I GAVE MY COPY, BUT THE CHANGE IS MOVEMENT FROM A 75-DAY TURN AROUND FOR A AUTOPSY REQUIRED. IT WAS REQUESTED THAT BE CHANGED TO 90 DAYS. WE HAVE ADDED ADDITIONAL SIGNATURE BLOCKS IN THE BACK AND CHANGED THE TIGHTSLE TO FIRST AMENDED. BUT I DID FORWARD THAT CHANGE ON TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND I HAVE NOT RECEIVED A RESPONSE, BUT IT WAS I WAS TOLD THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF THAT CHANGE TO 90 DAYS. >>JUDGE CANALES: DOES THAT HELP, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YES, MA'AM. MOTION TO PASS. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: SECOND. [O. Approve Letter of Support regarding jurisdictional change of Naval Airstation Corpus Christi (NASCC) properties; NASCC, Waldron Naval Outlying Landing Field (NOLF), and Cabaniss NOLF, from exclusive federal jurisdiction to concurrent jurisdiction.] >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING EYE. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, THE NEXT ONE IS YOURS, A LETTER OF SUPPORT THE NASCC WALDRIN TO CONCURRENT JURISDICTION. [01:45:08] WE ARE -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WANTED TO KNOW THE REASON FOR IT IS ALL I AM ASKING TO GET A EXPLANATION. >>JUDGE CANALES: THIS WAS -- I GOT AND RECEIVED AN E-MAIL THIS WAS BASICALLY A REQUEST FROM NASCC. AND THAT THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI ALONG WITH OURSELVES -- LET ME SEE IF I CAN PULL UP THAT E-MAIL. BELINDA, CAN YOU HELP ME BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I WILL BE AS QUICK AS YOU. I THINK EVERYBODY AGREES THIS IS IMPORTANT. >> CERTAINLY. SO YOUR OFFICE -- THE JUDGE'S OFFICE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM CAPTAIN JASON WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY OVER AT NASCC ASKING WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD BE -- THE COUNTY WOULD BE IN FAVOR OR NOT FROM THIS CHANGE OF EXCLUSIVE JURISDICTION TO CONCURRENT JURISDICTION. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY DO REQUIRE THAT WHETHER WE SUPPORT IT THAT WE DO RESPOND. WE REACHED OUT TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND A LETTER OF SUPPORT AND JASON'S OFFICE THAT CORPUS CHRISTI WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE CHANGE AND WHAT IT WOULD ALLOW, RIGHT NOW FEDERAL LAW WAS ENFORCED ON THIS PROPERTY. THREE SEPARATE POLICIES, THE BASE PROPER, WALDRIN AS WELL AS CABADUS. AND THIS WILL ALLOW CONCURRENT JURISDICTION WHERE TEXAS LAW WILL BE ENFORCE $ON THOSE PROPERTIES. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. IT IS FULFILLING A REQUEST, BUT AGAIN THROUGH THE SOUTH TEXAS MILITARY TASK FORCE AND THE CITY AND COUNTY WORKING TOGETHER. WE BELIEVE THAT EVERYBODY IN ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ACTION. COMMISSIONER? DO YOU HAVE ANY -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I GUESS IT IS OKAY. I AM NOT EXACTLY SURE WHY WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK TO SUPPORT THE TEXAS LAW BE APPLIED -- THAT'S CORRECT, BELINDA? TO MAKE SURE THAT TEXAS LAW WILL ALSO BE UPHELD IN ADDITION TO FEDERAL LAW. >> SO WHAT CAPTAIN JASON SAYS IN HIS LETTER IS EXCLUSIVE FEDERAL JURISDICTION WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON MILITARY OPERATIONAL READINESS, INSTALLATION, MILITARY HOUSING FACILITIES AND ACCESS TO THE TEXAS COURT SYSTEM. ESTABLISHMENT OF CONCURRENT JURISDICTION CRUCIAL ON THE PERSONS ON BOARD THE INSTALLATION AND SUPPORT LEGAL PROTECTIONS. >>JUDGE CANALES: PRETTY STRONG, COMMISSIONER. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SOUNDS GOOD. MOTION TO PASS OPINION. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. I WILL SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY, THAT CONCLUDES THE [Q. Authorize award of CSP No. 3187-21 Bob Hall Pier Demolition to Russell Marine, LLC; and authorize execution of agreement.] CONSENT AGENDA EXCEPT THE CSP NUMBER 38721. THE BOB HALL PIER DEMOLITION AND THE EXECUTION OF THAT AGREEMENT. IT IS GOING TO BE PULLED. WE ARE NOT GOING TO VOTE ON IT RIGHT NOW. WE WILL DISCUSS THE LEGAL GUESS EXECUTIVE SESSION. BUT WE CUT YOU OFF MR. BURCH. AS THEY SAID, YOU GET A DO- DO-OVER. AND THE ONLY THING -- I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE AND YOU HEARD OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY, SHE IS ADVISING US TO HOLD AND WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY CONSULT WITH HER, BUT THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE INFORMATION AND WE WILL BE LISTENING INTENTLY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DO-OVER AGAIN. MY NAME IS ERIC BURCH, I REPRESENT JM DAVIDSON. HERE ON ITEM 2 Q. IN ADDITION, WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER REPRESENTATIVES FROM JM DAVIDSON WITH US WITH VICE PRESIDENT MARSHAL DAVIDSON IS WITH US. JUST TO BRIEFLY RECAP, JANUARY 26, YOU AWARDED THIS BID PROPOSAL FOR THE BOB HALL PIER DEMOLITION TO JM DAVIDSON. A WEEK OR SO LATER BECAUSE OF A COMPLAINT FROM ANOTHER BIDDER, YOU WITHDREW THAT AND AWARDED IT TO THE OTHER BIDDER INSTEAD. THIS BID WAS -- THE RFP WAS UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 22-69. IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE CONSIDER WHAT THAT -- WHAT THAT ALLOWS. THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT METHODS OF ISSUING RFP UNDER THAT CODE SUB CHAPTER C IS THE COMPETITIVE BID STANDARD. IF YOU GO UNDER THAT SPECIFIC BID, YOU MUST REWARD THE MINIMUM, AND TAKE THE LOW BID. THE COUNTY DIDN'T DO THAT AND WENT UNDER SUB CHAPTER B, THE COMPETITIVE SEALED PROPOSAL. WHAT THAT ALLOWS THE COUNTY TO DO IS TO IDENTIFY SEPARATE [01:50:02] CRITERIA AND SCORE THE BIDS AGAINST THOSE CRITERIA. DURING THE JANUARY 26 MEETING, YOUR STAFF CAME IN AND SAID AN AMAZING ANYTHING. THEY SAID WE LOOKED AT THESE BIDS EVERY WHICH HAVE WAY AND VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL. THEY SCORED ALL THE SAME. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO SAY WHEN THEY SAID SCORED ALL THE SAME, THEY INCLUDED THE PRICE IN THERE BECAUSE THE PRICE IS NOT EVALUATED JUST AS THE RAW DOLLARS. THEY HAD A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE BIDDERS AND SAID "IT'S THE SAME." THE STAFF BASICALLY -- I DON'T MEAN THIS IN A BAD WAY, THREW UP THEIR HANDS AND SAID IDENTICAL. WE WILL LOOK AT THE BID -- THE LAW NUMBERS. THEY ESSENTIALLY CONVERT IT TO A SUB CHAPTER C BID AND TAKE THE LOW BIDDER INSTEAD OF USING THE EVALUATION PROCESS ALLOWED UNDER SUBCHAPTER D. AT THAT POINT, THE STAFF SAID, WE ARE GIVING YOU THIS RECOMMENDATION, BUT SEVERAL TIMES SAID, DO YOU NOT HAVE TO TAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION YOU DO WHATEVER YOU THINK IS RIGHT. AT THAT POINT JUDGE CANALES STARTED MAKING COMMENTS OF LOCAL ISSUES. I THINK THAT WAS THE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO CONSIDER THE LOCAL ISSUES AND HOW THIS WOULD IMPACT THE BID BECAUSE THE BID PROPOSAL DOCUMENTS SAY WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE BID THAT IS THE MOST ADVANTAGEOUS OF THE OWNER AND THAT IS WHAT THAT DISCUSSION LED TO. LET'S TALK OF LOCAL ISSUES JUST A SECOND. THE SUCCESSFUL BIDDER WAS JM DAVIDSON. THEY HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 38 YEARS. THEY HAVE 180 EMPLOYEES. MOST OF THOSE EMPLOYEES LIVE AND WORK IN THIS AREA. THEY SUPPORT LOTS OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND I ASKED MARSHAL DAVIDSON, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY HOW MUCH MONEY YOU THINK YOU SUPPORT IN THIS AREA EACH YEAR. IT IS ABOUT $50,000 OF SUPPORT, GRANTS, CHARITY GRANTS, SUPPORTING THINGS. A LOT OF THOSE THINGS ARE ACTUALLY MENTIONED TODAY. THE RODEO. THINGS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA THAT THIS COMPANY SUPPORTS IN THE LOCAL AREA. ONE OTHER VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT I HAVE NOT HEARD ADDRESSED AT ALL IS DIVERSITY. THE REASON I BRING THAT OUT BECAUSE THE STATUTE SPECIFICALLY SAYS YOU MUST CONSIDER WOMEN ISSUES, MINORITIES, UNDERUTILIZED BUSINESSES. YOU MUST TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, THE MANDATE AND AN ORDER. JM DAVIDSON IS A FAMILY BUSINESS AND WOULDN'T SURPRISE THAT THE FATHER IS THE PRESIDENT AND HIS SON IS THE VICE PRESIDENT. HAVE YOU SEEN THE REST OF THE ORGANIZATION? THEY HAVE EIGHT SENIOR STAFF PERSONNEL AT JM DAVIDSON. OF THE EIGHT, SIX OF THEM ARE MINORITIES, WOMEN AND BOTH. EXEMPLARY ORGANIZATION IN THIS LOCAL AREA IN THAT REGARD. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHEN THEY RECEIVED THE BIT BID, NOTIFIED SUCCESSFUL BIDDER, THE FIRST VENDOR THEY HIRED WAS A LOCAL VETERAN MINORITY-OWNED ENGINEERING FIRM TO DO THE WORK ON THE DEMOLITION PROJECT. SO ON FEBRUARY 2, WHEN THE COMPLAINING BIDDER SAID HE HAD FILED A COMPLAINT OR PROTEST -- AND BY THE WAY WE ASKED FOR A BINGD LOOKED FOR THAT PROTEST. WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS FILED, BUT WHEN THE COUNTY DECIDED TO WITHDRAW THAT BID FROM JM DAVIDSON. SURE THEY WITHDREW IT FROM THE COMPANY, BUT ALSO FROM THE 180 FAMILIES THAT RELY ON THE COUNTRY -- ON THE COMPANY. ALL THOSE WHO OWN HOMES, WHO WORK, WHO GO TO SCHOOL, WHO INVEST THEIR MONEY ALL IN THIS LOCAL AREA AND EXCHANGED THAT FOR A COMPANY TO SEND ALL THAT MONEY TO THE HOUSTON AREA FOR PROBABLY 15 TO 20 EMPLOYEES WHO WILL BE WORKING IN THIS LOCAL AREA FOR MAYBE THREE MONTHS. SO A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN IMPACTS WHERE THOSE FUNDS ARE GOING. AS A MATTER OF FACT, YOU REALLY TOOK THE MONEY OUT OF YOUR OWN POCKET BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE SERVICES BENEFIT THE COUNTY ITSELF. WHAT ARE WE ASKING THIS MORNING? THAT GO BACK TO YOUR WELL-REASONED DECISION ON JANUARY 26. THE JANUARY 26 MEETING A LOT OF DEBATE AND DISCUSSION WHAT WAS LEGAL, THE LOCAL ISSUES. YOU BROKE AT ONE POINT SAYING YOU WANT TO GET LEGAL ADVICE AND WENT IN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND AWARDED THE CONTRACT TO JM DAVIDSON. CONTRACT WHEN YOU HAD A COMPLAINT AND E EXECUTIVE SESSION AND TOOK THE BID AWAY FROM JM DAVIDSON AND WE STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY. WE ARE ASKING TO YOU DO IS TO GO BACK TO THAT WELL-REASONED DECISION. AND A LEGAL DECISION THAT SAYS GO NOW FOR THEN. WE HAVE THAT CONTRACT AND WAS GIVEN TO US THE VERY NEXT DAY. WE ARE READY TO SIGN IT RIGHT NOW. IT MAY ALREADY BE SIGNED READY [01:55:02] TO GO. WE CAN START THAT IMMEDIATELY IF THE COURT WILL DO THAT. THERE IS ANOTHER OPTION. YOU COULD REJECT ALL BIDS. IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU THINK THE DEADLOCK RESULTED IN A WAY TO NOT MAKE DECISION. REJECT ALL BIDS AND REISSUE THE RFP AND DO THIS AGAIN. OTHERWISE IF YOU MAKE ANY OTHER DECISION, YOU ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENT TO MAKE THE BEST AWARD IN THE INTEREST OF THIS COUNTY. YOU KNOW THE RABBI START THIS MORNING BY PRAYING -- ASKING THIS COURT TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE LOCAL CITIZENS AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO DO. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A -- WE DEFINITELY HAVE A ROBUST AGENDA HERE, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE THROUGH IT AND SEE WHEN WE THINK IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE HAVE ITEMS ONE, TWO AND THREE. [4. Discuss and consider approval of Amendment No. 7 to the original Software License and Services Agreement between Nueces County and Tyler Technologies, Inc. (Successor in Interest to Courthouse Technologies, LTD).] AND ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A DARYL EARWOOD ITEM. I AM LOOKING TO SEE IF DARYL IS ONLINE. APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT NUMBER 7 TO THE ORIGINAL SOFTWARE LICENSE AND SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN NUECES AND TYLER TECHNOLOGIES. I BELIEVE EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER. IS DARYL -- OKAY. WELL, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE ANY ISSUES HERE ARE THEY -- NONE? NORMALLY THEY WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL, BUT IN THIS CASE GIVEN THAT JENNY YOU ARE GOING TO NOD AND SAY EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER HERE. AS THEY SAY, CAN SOMEBODY SPEAK UP. I NEED SOMEBODY TO LET THE COURT KNOW THAT IT IS ALL IN ORDER SO WE CAN PROCEED. THANK YOU, DISTRICT CLERK. >> YES, JUDGE. I WAS INVOLVED WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WITH TYLER TECHNOLOGIES IN PUTTING FORTH THIS AMENDMENT 7. AND I WANTED TO GO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND HOW THIS TEXT MESSAGES IS IMPORTANT TO JURY TRIALS AND WHY HAVE WE INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF TEXT MESSAGES WE NEED TO HAVE COMING UP IN THE FUTURE. WE ALL KNOW THAT COVID-19 CHANGED SO MANY THINGS IN OUR LIVES. WE HEARD ABOUT -- ALL OF A SUDDEN HEARD ABOUT SOCIAL DISTANCING AND WEARING MASKS AND WASHING OUR HANDS. BUSINESSES SHUT DOWN AND THE NOON NORMAL AND THAT AFFECTED THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM SHUTTING DOWN JURY TRIALS FOR WELL OVER A YEAR. AND THERE CAME A POINT WHERE THEY HAD TO HAVE JURY TRIALS AGAIN. NOT ONLY FOR THE CRIMINAL DEFENDANT THAT IS FILLING UP THE JAIL. BUT ALSO FOR CIVIL. OUR PEOPLE WHO HAVE CIVIL MATTERS WHO NEEDED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF BY TRIAL. AND SO THE JUDGES WERE ORDERED BY THE SUPREME COURT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A PLAN FOR IN-PERSON JURY TRIALS YOU NEED TO SUBMIT IT FIRST TO THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT AND IF YOU CAN APPROVE IT YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND START YOUR JURY TRIALS. THE JUDGE GOT TOGETHER AND THEY CAME UP WITH A PLAN. IT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE SUPREME COURT AND IT WAS APPROVED. THE NEXT STEP IS HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT THE PLAN. WE REALIZED THAT WE COULD HANDLE THE MASK. WE COULD HANDLE THE SANITIZING AND EVERYTHING IN THE CENTRAL JURY ROOM BUT THE ONE OBSTACLE WE HAVE IS SOCIAL DISTANCING. IT MEASURED FOR SOCIAL DISTANCING. AND BEFORE WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO PUT 400 PEOPLE IN THAT CENTRAL JURY ROOM ONE DAY OF THE WEEK, WE COULD ONLY PUT 83 PEOPLE IN THAT CENTRAL JURY ROOM. WE HAD TO TOTALLY RETHINK WHAT -- HOW WE WERE GOING TO DO. HOW WE WOULD SUMMON THE JURIES AND SET THEM UP, ETC. AND WHAT WE CAME UP WITH WAS THE IDEA OF USING THE ONLINE FEATURE OF THE JURY PROGRAM. NOW THAT HAD BEEN AVAILABLE SINCE 2015. WE HAVE BEEN USING THAT. BUT IT SEEMED THIS WAS THE ANSWER TO THE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND KEEPING PEOPLE AWAY. KEEPING PEOPLE ABLE TO NOT COME IN CONTACT WITH THE COVID MET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUPREME COURT AND THE LOCAL [02:00:01] HEALTH DISTRICT AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IF YOU RECEIVE A JURY SUMMONS ENCOURAGED TO GO ONLINE AND FILL OUT YOUR INFORMATION ONLINE AND IF YOU ARE DISQUALIFIED, YOU ARE EXCUSED. WE CAN SELECT ONE JURY PANEL. ABLE TO SELECT ONE JURY PANEL FOR EACH COURT. THEY QUALIFIED THEMSELVES ONLINE. THERE WAS A CLEAN PANEL AND WENT STRAIGHT UP TO THE COURT AND BYPASSED THE CENTRAL JURY ROOM AN ALL OF THAT THAT WAS GOING ON THAT LOOKED LIKE THE ANSWER OF SOCIAL DISTANCING AND HAVE THREE DAYS OF JURY SERVICE AND ONLY ONE PANEL COME IN FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE DAYS. SO THE COUNTY COURTS AT LAW HAD TO DECIDE -- THEY DECIDED ON USING MONDAY, BUT ONLY ONE JURY -- ONE COURT WOULD GO TO JURY TRIAL. THEY HAD TO DECIDE AMONG THEMSELVES WHICH ONE WOULD GO THAT PARTICULAR MONDAY THE SAME ON TUESDAY THE DISTRICT COURT JUDGES WILL DO THE SAME THING. CHOOSE WHO WILL GO TO TRIAL AND THEN WEDNESDAY WAS FOR THE 9TH FLOOR. THEY HAD TO DECIDE WHAT THEY WOULD TO DO GO TO TRIAL. WE ENDED UP HAVING TO CREATE A JURY PANEL FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE DAYS AND AS WE BEGAN FOR THE JURY SUMMONS. THE COVID QUESTIONNAIRE WAS ON THE ONLINE JURY SUMMONS -- ONLINE SO THEY CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AS WELL. SO WHAT WE BEGAN TO DO -- WHEN WE WERE SUMMONING THE JURIES, WHAT WE SAW EVEN THOUGH WE SENT OUT 950 TO 1,000 JURY SUMMONS, MAYBE -- MAYBE 80 PEOPLE, MAYBE 161 PEOPLE WILL END UP BEING CONFIRMED, ACTUALLY CONFIRMED TO SERVE AND SOMETIMES WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TO FULFILL THAT JURY PANEL FOR THAT ONE DAY. SO TEXT MESSAGES CAME IN TO BE VERY HANDY. WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO IN THE JURY ADMIN OFFICE IS CONTACT THESE -- WE WOULD PUT THE AVAILABLE JURORS ON THE PANEL. BUT ANY OTHER JURIES THAT WE NEEDED WE WOULD LOOK AT THE OTHER PANELS FOR THAT WEEK. AND IF THEY WERE OVER THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE NEEDED FOR THAT PARTICULAR DAY THEN WE WOULD TEXT MESSAGES THOSE OVERFLOW AND SAY -- WE ARE GOING TO USE YOU FOR THIS DATE. AND SO THEY WOULD RECEIVE A TEXT MESSAGE FROM US. IF IT WAS CANCELLED, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEND TEXT MESSAGES OUT TO CANCEL THAT PANEL WITHOUT THEM HAVING TO COME IN. SO THAT WAS THE SOLUTION THAT WE HAD. BECAUSE WE HAD TO USE THAT ALL THROUGH THE TIME THEY STARTED WITH JURY TRIALS, OUR AMOUNT OF TEXT MESSAGES HAVE GONE UP. AND THIS YEAR, THE JUDGES, THE DISTRICT COURT JUDGES WANT TWO PANELS FOR EACH OF THOSE DAYS. OUR TEXT MESSAGING IS GOING UP EVEN MORE. THAT IS WHY I HAD THIS AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THAT SO WE CAN CONTINUE DOING WHAT WE ARE DOING AND BE SUCCESSFUL IN BRINGING THOSE JURY TRIALS INTO THE COURT R ROOM. I AM ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER AND APPROVE THIS INCREASE IN TEXT -- COST OF TEXT MESSAGING. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. JUST REFERENCED. FOR $16,000 A YEAR AND I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AN A SECOND. VERY GOOD EXPLANATION. SOMETIMES WE GLOSS OVER THESE ITEMS. IF YOU WANT THE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE TO WORK, YOU BETTER GIVE THE MOOD EARN TOOLS. >> AND I REALLY DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, JUDGE, TO COME IN FOR JURY DUTY. THE JURORS WE HAVE HAD HAVE SAID IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE. THEY ARE NOT AFRAID. WE JUST REALLY HAVE A GOOD SYSTEM SET UP FOR HOWEVER LONG WE NEED IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: SUPER. A MOTION AND A SECOND WITH COMMISSIONER MAREZ. [5. Discuss and consider executing an agreement with the City of Port Aransas for lifeguard services along the beach at I.B. Magee Beach Park as authorized under Chapter 791 of the Texas Government Code for time frames listed in the agreement for Spring Break, Spring and Summer/Fall seasons of the year 2022.] ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY, GREAT. SCOTT CROSS IS WANDERING THE HALLWAYS. THE NEXT ITEM IS GERMANE TO COASTAL PARKS. AGREEMENT WITH PORT A FOR L LIFEGUARD SERVICES AT MAGHEE BEACH. AND THE RIGHT TIME FRAMES THAT WE REALLY NEED BECAUSE SPRING BREAK IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER AND I BELIEVE THIS IS IN [02:05:01] GOOD ORDER HERE. SO. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THE NEXT THREE ITEMS. >> WOMAN: HI, SCOTT. WE ARE ON LIFEGUARDS. WE WANT TO -- >> I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE ALREADY THERE. I AM SORRY. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT WITH PORT A. AND IT IS BUDGETED. >>JUDGE CANALES: AND IT IS BUDGETED. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SE SECOND. [6. Discuss and consider approval of Change Order No. 3 (Revised) from Mako Contracting to provide a 4" fire main with a 1' stub for a contractor to connect to a new fire suppression system.] >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. NEXT ONE IS A REVISED CHANGE ORDER WITH MAK O, A FOUR-INCH FIRE MAIN WITH A FOOT STUB FOR A CONTRACTOR. ALL PART OF OUR NEW FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM. >> AND ACTUALLY AFTER WE GOT THROUGH WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL OVER IN PORT ARANSAS LOOKING A IT WE HAD TO MAKE MODIFI MODIFICATIONS. IT IS BUDGETED AND GOOD TO GO UNDER THE 25% CAP WITH MAKO ON CHANGE ORDERS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO MOVED. [7. Discuss and consider Coastal Parks request to utilize some of the insurance settlement funds to address repairs still needed due to Hurricane Harvey, including: Padre Balli Park office repairs, I.B. Magee maintenance shop entry door and frame, I.B. Magee office repairs, and I.B. Magee office furniture, AV equipment, phone, internet and computers.] >>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. NEXT ONE, SCOTT, A LITTLE MORE INVOLVED. >> YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: BASICALLY TALKS OF THE REPAIRS STILL NEEDED FOR HURRICANE HARVEY FOR MAGEE MAINTENANCE SHOP AND SOME -- WHAT I WOULD CALL FF & E. TELL US WHAT YOUR POSITION IS HERE. >> OKAY, SO I DISCUSS THIS WITH THE COMMISSIONER AND WITH MY BOARD AND THE PARK OFFICE, IN 2018, I HAD A CONDITION ASSESSMENT DONE OF THE BUILDING BY THE ENGINEER. AT THAT TIME THE INSURANCE COMPANY -- I THINK IT WAS JS HA LE. THEY WERE THE ADJUSTORS AND ALLOTTED $26,000 TO FIX THE WHOLE BEING. THAT WON'T EVEN FIX THE WINDOWS. WE DID TEMPORARY PATCHING FOR THE ROOF UNTIL WE FOUND OUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE INSURANCE SETTLEMENT. I YOU IN THE AGENDA ITEM ON HERE TO BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT WE ARE STILL NOT DONE. WE STILL HAVE THINGS WE NEED TO DO THAT ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO HURRICANE HARVEY THAT THOSE INSURANCE SETTLEMENTS WILL COVER. THE PROBLEM I HAVE FOR YOU TODAY IS WITH THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT THAT WAS DONE, ALL IT IS A CONDITION ASSESSMENT WHERE THEY WENT IN AND SAID, OKAY, THIS, THIS AND THIS IS BROKE. THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED. BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE A FINANCIAL ASSESSMENT AS TO WHAT THOSE REPAIRS WILL COST SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT NOW I NEED TO PUT THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT WITH AN ENGINEER WHO CAN COST OUT THOSE REPAIRS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT I ACTUALLY I SHOULD BE ASKING ARE FOR AT PADRE BAYOU. THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT IS VERY THICK. A LOT OF PAGES. I WILL BE HAPPY TO PRINT A COPY AND GIVE IT TO YOU AND WAY TOO BIG TO ATTACH TO THE AGENDA. AND ANYHOW, I GOT THAT. AND WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A FLAT ROOF ISSUE COME -- COMING UP AT IB MAGEE THAT WE DID A COST ON AND A TEMPORARY DRIVE IN AND FIX THE THIS I THINK AND DO A PERMANENT FIX TO THE FLAT ROOF. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT COST IS YET. THAT IS UP AND COMING AND A MAINTENANCE DOOR, METAL DOOR AND FRAME AT THE MAINTENANCE SHOP DAMAGED DURING HURRICANE HARVEY THAT WILL NEED TO BE FIXED. THERE MAY BE OTHER MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS OUT THERE RELATED TO THESE STRUCTURES THAT WERE COVERED UNDER INSURANCE. WE MOVED ON AND. I WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE BEFORE PEOPLE START LOOKING AT WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO BE MOVING MONEY AROUND THAT WE STILL HAVE DEFINITIVE NEEDS THAT ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO HURRICANE HARVEY. WITH Y'ALL'S PERMISSION, I AM HAPPY TO GO OUT AND MERITED THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT OF PADRE BAYOU. THAT THE 800-BOUND GORILLA. COMMISSIONER, YOU KNOW THE BUILDING OUT THERE. THE SIDING IS IN BAD SHAPE. THE WINDOWS -- SEALS THAT WERE BREACHED. THE ROOF NEEDS TO BE REDONE. INTERIOR WE HAVE SHEET ROCK AND STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH, BUT I THINK OVERALL, THE WINDOWS ON THAT BUILDING ARE GOING TO BE THE MOST COSTLY BECAUSE EVERYTHING WE DO ON WINDOWS HAVE TO BE WINDSTORM AND IMPACT RATEDED GLASS THAT DRIVES THE COST THROUGH THE ROOF. >>JUDGE CANALES: SCOTT. AS WE SIT HERE TODAY AND I FULLY CONCUR WITH THIS ASSESSMENT AND THIS, YOU KNOW, DIRECTION OF ALLOCATION, BUT WE DON'T HAVE COST ESTIMATES. >> NO, NOT YET. >> LOOKING FOR AWARENESS FROM THE COURT THAT WE NEED TO REPAIR THESE ITEMS AND, B, THAT WE SHOULD PERHAPS DESIGNATE INSURANCE SETTLEMENT TO PAY [02:10:01] THESE ITEMS AND FINALLY TO DIRECT SOME SORT OF A COST ESTIMATE AND SOME OF IT CAN BE DONE -- IF IT IS LIKE A DOOR. >> I AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. I AM WORKING ON THAT SPECIFICALLY FOR COASTAL PARKS. IF WE CAN DO THAT I CAN PIECEMEAL OUT SIDING TO A JOB WINDOWS TO A JOB. SAVE US A BUNCH OF MONEY AND EXECUTE REAL QUICKLY. I HAVE TO COORDINATE THAT WITH MICHAEL IN PURCHASING. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT WOULD FINISH QUICKLY WHICH IS GOOD. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, DO YOU WANT TO RAISE YOUR HAND? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, I WAS GOING TO SAY -- SCOTT, WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR IS SOME FORM OF APPROVAL IN THE WAY OF A MOTION FOR YOU TO GO FORWARD AND KIND OF START THIS PROCESS AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE A COST ESTIMATE THAT IS CERTAINLY ALL WE CAN DO. A PRIME EXAMPLE OF AN AREA WE USED TO GET THE FUNDS AND THAT WE WOULD NEED TO I THINK FOR SURE SPEND THEM ON FIXING UP THE AREA THAT WAS SO DIRECTLY EFFECTED. THIS IS NOT THE AREA IN THE COUNTY AND SIGNIFICANT PART AND WHAT ARE YOU WANTING. >> I WANT AWARENESS AND YOUR APPROVAL TO GO FORTH AND NAIL DOWN THESE RECOVERY COSTS AND BRING THEM BACK TO YOU FOR APPROVAL. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HOW FAST DO YOU THINK YOU CAN DO THAT? >> I WILL GET THAT DONE -- GIVE ME A MONTH. MARCH -- I GOT SPRING BREAK COMING UP, YOU KNOW. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HOW ABOUT THE MARCH 16 MEETING TO BRING IT BACK BY THEN, BECAUSE WE NEED TO -- WE NEED TO GET THOSE. >> OKAY, I WILL DO MY BEST. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YOU SHOULD -- I WAS GOING TO SAY YOU HOW ABOUT NEXT WEEK BECAUSE -- I WILL GIVE YOU UNTIL THE 16TH BECAUSE I AM IN A GOOD MOOD TODAY. I WILL MAKE A MOTION, JUDGE FOR HIM TO GO FORWARD AND GIVE US A COST ESTIMATE WITH THE COURT'S UNDERSTANDING THAT THE -- THE OUTCOME WOULD BE TO APPROVE THOSE FUNDS DEPENDENT ON THE COSTS THAT COME BACK. >>JUDGE CANALES: I TOTALLY CONCUR AND I DON'T THINK THIS WILL BE A VERY HIGH DOLLAR. THE ONLY THING THAT IS SORT OF THE QUESTION MARK IS THE FLAT ROOF AT IB MAGEE. THAT IS INTERESTING. HAVING SAID THAT, THAT IS EXACTLY WHY WE MADE SUCH A STRONG PLAY FOR GETTING INSURANCE. AND IT WILL BE A HUGE -- A HUGE LIFT FOR US OVER AT IB MAGEE. >> P A, DRE BAYOU WILL NOT BE NEARLY LIKE IB MAGEE. ONE THING TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION ESPECIALLY FOR JENNY AND MICHAEL TO HEAR. THAT WE HAVE BEEN MONITORING THE 25% CAP CHANGE OVER FOR MAKO. WE HAVE 15 AND SOME CHANGE LEFT. WHEN WE GET THIS FLAT ROOF NUMBER. THAT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE A GAME CHANGER WITH THAT CAP AND WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT LEGAL WORK AROUNDS WE HAVE. I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO BRING IN ANOTHER FOURTH-PARTY CONTRACTOR FINISH IT AND WILL PUSH US OVER ITS 25%. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL HAVE TO BRING THAT UP. >> OKAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK AN EASY ANSWER. >> JUST WANTED TO PUT IT ON YOUR RADAR. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: LET ME JUST ASK, JUDGE. SO ARE RADIO HE TO INTERRUPTS SOMEBODY. >>JUDGE CANALES: DID YOU. HOLD ON ONE SECOND. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I WAS GOING TO SAY 16TH -- WE WILL TABLE FOR ACTION. WE WILL TAKE ACTION ON THE 1 16TH? >>JUDGE CANALES: HE WILL BRING US COST ESTIMATES SO WE CAN DIRECT THE INSURANCE SETTLEMENT DOLLARS TO PAY FOR THE -- FOR THAT. IT HAS TO GO OUT TO PROCUREMENT BUT AT LEAST WE KNOW WHAT THE BUDGET IS. OKAY. SO THE MOTION THAT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HAS WILL BE SECONDED. IT IS BASICALLY TO AUTHORIZE COASTAL PARKS TO BRING BACK THE COST ESTIMATES ON THESE PROJECTS FOR MARCH 16. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: QUESTION. SCOTT, WHAT DOES YOUR GUT TELL THAT YOU WILL BE COST ON PROJECT -- >> ABOUT 500 -- I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF IT IS MORE THAN $500,000. IT IS THE WINDOWS THAT DRIVE IT UP. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUST SO THE COURT IS AWARE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE BIGGER ONE IS THE ROOF. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: ON IB MAGEE. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU MIGHT BE LOOKING AT A TOTAL OF UNDER $1 MILLION FOR EVERYTHING. >> I GUESS. I WOULD HATE FOR YOU -- >>JUDGE CANALES: WHY DON'T WE JUST GIVE THOSE COST ESTIMATES. >> YES, MA'AM, I AM SORRY. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE AWARENESS IS TOTALLY WELCOMED AND YOU ARE RIGHT. WE GOT TO FINISH WHAT WE STARTED. THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE INSURANCE FUNDS REPAIR WHAT [02:15:03] HURRICANE HARVEY DID FIRST. AND IF YOU KNOW. >> I THINK I PUT IN THE AGENDA BACK-UP LANGUAGE THAT THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT AT PADR E BAYOU WAS PART OF THE SETTLEMENT. >>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE TIGHT WINDOW. >> Y'ALL DON'T USUALLY MOVE THIS FAST. >>JUDGE CANALES: SPEEDY CA NALES TODAY. >>> SO THE NEXT ONE IS THE FIRE MARSHAL. I WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK. I AM HAPPY TO SKIP IT -- THERE YOU ARE, JOSE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: EXCUSE ME JUDGE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: YES? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ON NUMBER 7. DONE TAKE -- DO WE NEED A MOTION? >>JUDGE CANALES: THE MOTION GONE GONZALEZ DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE DECIDED AS A COURT WE WOULDN'T TAKE ACTION UNTIL WE GET THE COST ESTIMATES ON MARCH 16. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WAS THAT A MOTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT EXACTLY WE ARE AUTHORIZING. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, DO YOU CONCUR WITH THAT ASSESSMENT? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: DIRECTING HIM TO GO TO GET THE COST ESTIMATES WITH THE ANTICIPATION THAT WE WOULD USE THE INSURANCE FUND FOR THE COST ESTIMATES PENDING THE COURT'S FINAL APPROVAL. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S CORRECT. WE ARE JUST CLEARING -- PROVIDING CLARITY HERE. EXACTLY. [8. Discuss and consider adopting an Order prohibiting outdoor burning in the unincorporated areas of Nueces County, pursuant to Section 352.081 of the Texas Local Government Code.] IS THAT GOOD, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. ALL RIGHT, FIRE MARSHAL OLIVARES. TAKE US THROUGH THE POTENTIAL OF CONSIDERING ADOPTING AN ORDER FOR WHAT WE ALL SNOW IS A BURN BAN, BUT CALLED PROHIBITING OUTDOOR BURNING IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, SIR. >> YES, ON THE AGENDA TODAY IS THE KEEPS FALLING ON ME HERE. THERE WE GO. ON THE AGENDA IS THE OPTION FOR THE CHORD TO IMPLEMENT A BURN BAN. I WANTED TO RUN THROUGH THE KBDI INDEX. AS I LISTENED EARLIER, I GUESS SOMEBODY ASKED A QUESTION OF THE 400 AND 600 INDEX READING. WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE 400 TO 600 INDEX. WHAT THE COUNTY NORMALLY USES IS THE 500% INDEX PART OF IT. NOW ALTHOUGH WE ARE NOT. THE AVERAGE IS 4 19 AND THAT IS TODAY. THE MAX HAS BEEN 547. WHAT IS HAPPENING IS WE ARE FLUCTUATING AND WE ARE HITTING THE 500 AND COMING DOWN TO THE 400. AND WE WILL STAY AT THE 400 FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AND SHOOT BACK UP TO THE 500. AND THEN SHOOT BACK DOWN TO THE 400. VERY UNSTEADY BUT IN MY OPINION BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF HUMIDITY THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING AND THE AMOUNT OF PRECIPITATION WE HAD AND LACK THERE OF, WE WOULD IMPLEMENT A BURN BAN. >>JUDGE CANALES: DO THINK IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST. >> IT IS THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COURT. >>JUDGE CANALES: TO DO A ECHO OR SUPPLEMENT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I AGREE WITH HIM. >> WITH THE FLUCTUATION, COURT. WE ARE HAVING A TOUGH TIME FIGURING OUT THE LONG-TERM PROJECTION OF HOW OUR WEATHER IS GOING TO BE RIGHT NOW. THE BURN BAN ITSELF I THINK SHOULD BE ABOUT 30 DAYS. I JUST LOOKED AT THE OTHER COUNTIES THAT SURROUND OUR A AREA. HAVE THEY IMPLEMENTED A BURN BAN AND SOME HAVE AS WELL. >>JUDGE CANALES: OUR REGION IS ALSO IN COOPERATION HERE. OKAY, SO FOR THAT REASON I WILL MAKE A MOTION. SINCE YOU ARE MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION FOR 30-DAY BURN BAN SUNDAY TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. AND JUST FOR DISCUSSION, I M MEAN, LOUIE. CAN YOU PUT THAT ON THE HOT WIRE AND DO ALL OUR MESSAGING. ONCE YOU MAKE THE ORDER YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ORDER EXISTS. PROBABLY A PRESS RELEASE FROM MAGEE. AND ALSO ALL THE NORMAL SOCIAL MEDIA STUFF. >> YES, JUDGE. I WILL HAVE KATZY PUT THAT O OUTS. >>JUDGE CANALES: APPRECIATE IT. >> WE HAVE AN ALERT BANNER ON THE HOME PAGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: EVEN BETTER. THAT ALERT -- WHEN PEOPLE GO TO NUECESCO.COM. THE SLIDE DECK SO SO STAGED THIS WEEKEND WEEK. WE BRUSHED OVER IT BUT LOOK AT [02:20:04] YOUR TRUSTED MEDIA OUTLETS BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO SEE EVERYTHING. WE WILL SEE WIND, COLD AND POTENTIAL, MAYBE EVEN SOME ICE. WIND CHILLS CERTAINLY BELOW FREEZING. IT WILL BE WEIRD AND STRANGE AND IT WILL. IT IS STARTING, I THINK. IS IT -- THE COLD COMES IN TOMORROW, LOUIE? I AM TRYING TO REMEMBER MY SLIDE DECK. >> YES, JUDGE. STARTS TOMORROW AFTERNOON AND GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH SUNDAY AFTERNOON AND THEN STARTS WARMING BACK UP SOME SUNDAY NIGHT. JUBLINGZ JUDGE RIGHT. -- >>JUDGE CANALES. RIGHT. IT IS GOING TO BE SUPER COLD COME SATURDAY MORNING. THANK YOU FOR THAT. DID WE DO THE VOTE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. [9. Discuss and consider options available for sale of 430 N. Alister, Port Aransas, Texas; adopt course of action.] OPPOSED SAME SIGN. WE ARE ITEM NUMBER 9, AND THIS IS A CONSIDER OPTIONS AVAILABLE FOR THE 430 NORTH ALISTER, PORT ARANSAS, TEXAS. ACTION ITEM NUMBER 9 IN YOUR BOOK AND I THINK THIS ONE WAS ON OUR COMMISSIONERS COURT EXECUTIVE SESSION AND I THINK WE WILL WAIT BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN FROM THE BACKGROUND ON THE APPRAISAL AND EVERYTHING. THAT'S CORRECT, JENNY? >> YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: ANY MATTERS YOU WANT TO BRING FORWARD OTHER THAN -- DO YOU WANT TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BACKGROUND AND HIS HISTORY? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, THAT APPRAISAL SHOULD HAVE BEEN SENT TO EVERYONE. THAT WAS FORWARDED AND I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WASN'T GIVEN IN THE BACKUP. THAT WAS FORWARDED LAST WEEK. >>JUDGE CANALES: SORRY. I DO NOT SEE IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AGREE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS. IT WAS FORWARDED TO AND ASKED TO BE CIRCULATED. JEN OR BELINDA. DO YOU NOT HAVE THAT. >> BECAUSE IT IS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. THAT IS WHY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SORRY, EXECUTIVE SESSION. THAT IS -- BUT YOU HAVE TO GIVE TO COMMISSIONERS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION? >> WE HAVE THAT, COMMISSIONERS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOODED TO LET YOU -- FORWARDED TO LET YOU LOOK AT. BUT SINCE IT IS EXECUTIVE SESSION THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ATTACHED IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE ARE MOVING THAT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND TO GIVE BACKGROUND THAT THIS IS AN EMPTY LOT IN PORT ARANSAS AND HIGHLY COVETED OF THE LOCATION AND A HURRICANE HARVEY VICTIM, SO TO SPEAK. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THIS IS WHERE THE -- WHERE THE COURTS PREVIOUSLY VOTED 5-0 TO MOVE INTO NEGOTIATION WITH THE CITY OF PORT ARANSAS. TO -- THEY WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN THE POSSIBILITY OF PURCHASING THIS PROPERTY. THE APPRAISAL DURING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION IS BASED TO THAN. I THINK IT IS A PRETTY SIMPLE PROCESS BUT WHAT MISS DORSEY CAN CLARIFY WITH US IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT HOW BASICALLY WE WOULD NOW ENTER INTO THE NEGOTIATIONS BECAUSE THINK PORT ARANSAS HAS REQUESTED THEIR OWN APPRAISAL AND SO THIS IS JUST THE RESULT OF THE COURT APPRAISAL TO GET THE APPRAISAL DONE SO COURT CAN SEE THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY AND WHERE TO GO FROM THERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I JUST THINK THAT HELPS SET THE TABLE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YES, MA'AM, SURE. >>JUDGE CANALES: TAKES SO LONG BY THE TIME WE GET BACK OUT. GIVES INFORMATION AHEAD OF T [10. Discuss Hagerty's contract to review ineligible payments and legal consideration for what responsibility the County has to continue to use Hagerty's services if FEMA and or ARPA funds do not cover their payment.] TIME. MOVE ON PAST ITEM 89 AND 10. DISCUSSION HAGERTY CONTRACT TO REVIEW INELIGIBLE PAYMENTS AND LEGAL CONSIDERATION FOR WHAT RESPONSIBILITY THE COUNTY HAS TO CONTINUE TO USE HAGERTY'S SERVICES IF FEMA AND ARPA FUNDS DO NOT COVER THEIR PAYMENT. WE HAVE HOCKSTEIN WITH US ON THE LINE FOR HAGERTY AND WHAT NOTICED IN ITEM NUMBER 10 AND I THINK WE CAN SET THE STAGE HERE WITH -- WITH THIS. MATT, I WANT TO GO AHEAD. WE CAN ASK OUR LEGAL QUESTIONS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, HAGERTY IS OUR GRANT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM MANAGER FOR ARPA ALONG WITH FEMA AND THE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE WE HAVE FOR DMOVZ ADDITION WITH THAT. US WITH HURRICANE HANNA AS WELL AS WINTER FORM YURI SO BASICALLY I HAVE MARIA. I DON'T KNOW IF SHE IS STILL ON. [02:25:01] PROVIDED A SPREADSHEET THAT OUTLINES THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS SUBMITTED FOR RECOVERY. THE AMOUNT OF MONEY AVAILABLE FOR RECOVERY AND WHAT THE DELTA IS. APPEARS THAT OUR WINTER STORM YURI WAS OUT OUTLIER AND FEMA DIDN'T OPEN ALL CATEGORIES ONLY EMERGENCY PROTECTIVE MEASURES. APPROXIMATELY BY OUR ACCOUNTING BOARD OF DIRECTORS 80,000 WORTH OF WORK THAT YOU KNOW MOST LIKELY SUBMITTED TO FEMA AND TEXAS DID NOT DECLARE ALL OUR COUNTIES. OUR COUNTY DID NOT RECEIVE SNOW FOR INSTANCE. AND WE WERE PENALIZED EVEN THOUGH WE WEREIZED OVER. EVEN THOUGH T X DOT SHUT DOWN OUR BRIDGE AND CAUSEWAY DESPITE THE FACT NO WATER OR ELECTRICITY WE STILL DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE AUTHORITIES FORWARDED WITH US WHICH IS SHOCKING, SHOCKING, SHOCKING. NEVERTHELESS, THERE ARE SOME DOLLARS. WHEN WE SPOKE TO DALE ABOUT THIS, THE COURT DOES NEED TO MAKE A DECISION HOW TO FUND THAT AMOUNT. TYPICALLY IN FEMA PA FOR 100% FOR COVID-19. AND ALLOWED FOR THIS REIMBURSEMENT TO BE COMMITTED AND WE HAVE A METHOD TO ADMINISTER AND RECOVER. THE QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THAT MECHANISM LIKE WINTER STORM YURI. THE ANSWER IS THE COURT NEEDS TO MAKE A DETERMINATION WHERE TO AND CREATE A BUDGETARY AVENUE WHICH IS TYPICALLY THE GENERAL FUND. I ASKED IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER FUNDS AND WHAT DALE RECOMMENDED AND ELBA, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT. BUT MATT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> YES. I THINK WE WILL ADDRESS IT ON OUR AUDITOR, BUT WE. THE EXPENSES THAT WERE NOT ELIGIBLE FALL UNDER A COUPLE OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS. NAMELY DEPARTMENT 120, 140 -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: COULD YOU SAY WHO THEY ARE. >> DEPARTMENT 120 IS PUBLIC WORKS. >>JUDGE CANALES: PUBLIC WORKS, OKAY. >> DEPARTMENT 140 IS STADIUM FAIRGROUND. >>JUDGE CANALES: FAIRGROUNDS. >> DEPARTMENT 180, COASTAL P PARKS. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. >> BUILDING SUPERINTENDENT DEPARTMENT, 1570. >>JUDGE CANALES: BUILDING SUPER. OKAY. >> THERE WAS PURCHASING DEPARTMENT 1270. AND ALSO WE HAD A -- LET'S SEE. LEGIBLE ACCOUNT FROM HAGERTY CONSULTANT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I CAN TELL YOU MOST OF THEM -- PUBLIC WORKS IS THAT BOTH PERSONNEL AND ANY ANY SUBSTANCE TO DE-ICE OUR ROAD WAS DEEMED INELIGIBLE. ANY ROCK OR SALT OR ANY EFFORTS WE USED DURING WINTER STORM YURI WAS NOT DEEMED HE WILL I -- ELIGIBLE. THEY CAN FIGHT THE LOGICAL BUT THEY REMAIN UNREASONABLE. THE COASTAL PARKS, THE TURTLE CARCASS DISPOSAL REMAINED INELIGIBLE. WE KNOW FOR THE PURCHASING OF THE SMALL GENERATORS AND BLANKETS REMAINED INELIGIBLE BECAUSE OF THE FACT WE DID NOT UTILIZE THEM -- ONCE THEY ARE UTILIZED IT IS ARTICULATED TO THAT COURT THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO CLAIM THOSE AS ELIGIBLE EXPENSES. I CANNOT SPEAK TO THE BUILDING SUPER OR TO THE FAIRGROUNDS. BUT MAYBE ELVA, YOU CAN PROVIDE LIGHT. >> ALL THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE BUDGET AVAILABLE FOR LAST FISCAL YEAR TO COVER THOSE EXPENSES. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE CAN APPROPRIATE EACH OF THOSE COSTS TO THE DEPARTMENT AND ARE BUDGETED. >> RIGHT. AS FAR AS HAGERTY GOES, MORE THAN LIKELY IT WILL BE GENERAL FUND. >>JUDGE CANALES: GENERAL FUND. THAT THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE. MR. CHESNEY, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP. CAN YOU GET YOUR VIDEO ON OTHER THAN IT IS NOT LEGAL. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YES, [02:30:01] MA'AM. I WAS JUST WAITING FOR YOU TO CALL ON ME. I PUT THIS ITEM ON AGENDA BECAUSE I HAVE CONCERNS OVER THE FACT THAT THE -- HOW MUCH AUDITOR'S OFFICE -- I CAN'T SEE WHO IS THERE. HOW MUCH INELIGIBLE. WHAT IS THE TOTAL COST ADDED. >> THE TOTAL BILLING WAS $1 $141,93 >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SORRY. >>JUDGE CANALES: 131 WAS THE TOTAL BILLING FOR THE PROJECT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: OKAY. SO THAT -- THAT ELVA THAT IS THERE. >> I AM SORRY, YES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM SORRY, I CAN'T SEE WHO IS TH THERE. ELVA, THAT IS INELIGIBLE. >> 5% OF THE ELIGIBLE COST THAT WAS APPROVED FROM THAT INVOICE WAS $16,977.10. AND THE INELIGIBLE AMOUNT IS $114,516.56. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: OF THE HAGERTY PAYMENTS, $114,000 IS INELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT? >> YES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HERE IS MY ISSUE. MY ISSUE IS. AND I WILL JUST -- WE WILL JUST SAY IT OUT HERE. I DON'T THINK IT IS A LEGAL ISSUE. THE ISSUE IS WE HIRED LA HAGERTY TO ENSURE THAT EVERYTHING WE DID WAS ELIGIBLE FOR PAYMENT. AND MY CONCERN HERE IS HOW DO THE PEOPLE WE HIRED TO BE THE EXPERTS ON MAKING SURE WE WERE DOING RIGHT NOT KNOW THAT $114,000 OF THEIR PAYMENTS WERE GOING TO BE INELIGIBLE? THAT CONCERNS ME. AND I AM NOT WILLING TO JUST PAY IT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND WITHOUT FURTHER DISCUSSION, BECAUSE WE SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAD TO PAY THAT THIS OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. SO I AM -- I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ON THAT BEFORE WE DO THAT. AND SECOND, I NEED TO KNOW GOING FORWARD HOW MUCH MORE OF THIS IS POTENTIALLY OUT THERE THAT MAY NOT BE ELIGIBLE TO IT. ARE THERE OTHER THINGS COMING. YOU KNOW -- YEAH, I JUST -- I GOT A LOT OF DISCUSSION TO HAVE ON THIS BEFORE JUST PAYING IT, THAT'S FOR SURE. SURE, WHAT ELSE IS THE AUDITOR GOING TO DO. THE AUDITOR HAS GOT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WHERE IT WILL BE PAID FROM. BUT AS POLICYMAKERS WE NEED TO CHALLENGE THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE WE SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS SPOT. WHY ARE WE HAVING TO PAY $114,000 OUT OF GENERAL FUND THAT SHOULD HAVE COME OUT OF THE REIMBURSEMENT FUNDS WE WERE REWARDED. >>JUDGE CANALES: THIS IS WHERE YOU SAY, CALL YOUR CONGRESSMAN. ISSUE OF FEMA AND NOT DECLARED IN ALL CATEGORIES, BRENT. IT DOESN'T HAVE -- IT IS THE TURTLES. IT'S THE -- EVERYTHING HAS TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE ELIGIBLE. NOT THAT THE EXPENSES ARE NOT VALID. IT'S THAT THE CATEGORIES WERE NOT OPEN SO THAT WE COULD RECEIVE ELIGIBILITY. THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE UN UNIQUENESS OF WINTER STORM Y YURI. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: CAN I SAY SOMETHING, COMMISSIONER. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SHOULDN'T HAGERTY HAVE KNOWN THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S HAVE THEM ANSWER YOUR QUESTION FIRST. BECAUSE I THINK THAT YOU ARE -- YOUR QUESTION SHOULD BE ANSWERED. SO WE WILL GET MATT TO TALK ABOUT IT. AND, AGAIN, PLEASE DISTINGUISH IT, MATT FROM FEMA AND ARPA. BECAUSE FEMA PA, THE BULK OF THE EXPENSES AS WELL AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, THERE IS NOT AN ISSUE WITH HAGERTY'S EXPENSES. THIS IS LIMITED DISCUSSION OF WINTER STORM YURI WHICH WAS VERY UNIQUE AS WELL AS HANNA THAT WAS NOT A DECLARED DISASTER. GO AHEAD, MATT, INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE GROUP. I AM NOT SURE IF PEOPLE KNOW WHO YOU ARE. >> YES, HI, EVERYONE, MATT, VICE PRESIDENT AT HAGERTY. AND I HAVE BEEN FAMILIAR WITH OUR ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COUNTY. JUST TO ANSWER THE POINT AT HAND. FIRST, I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO DISTINGUISH THE ENTIRE TOTAL THAT IS BEING -- THAT IS UNDER QUESTION RIGHT NOW. I THINK PART OF THAT -- THOSE FEES WERE RELATED TO AN AFTER ACTION REPORT THAT WAS PERFORMED FOR THE COUNTY. I THINK THAT WAS KNOWN GOING IN THAT WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE UNDER FEMA PUBLIC ASSISTANCE. UNDER FEMA'S PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IT HAS TO BE TIED TO DISASTERS AND SERVICES THAT WERE PERFORMED RESULTED OF THE DISASTER. YOU KNOW, TO ADDRESS THE OTHER CONCERN, I THINK GOING INTO THIS, WE HAD ALREADY PROVIDED SERVICES WITH THE COUNTY ON HANNA AND GOING INTO EVERY ENGAGEMENT, WE ADVISED ON [02:35:05] MANAGEMENT COST THAT FEMA PROVIDES WHICH IS 5% ON TOP OF THE ELIGIBLE COSTS THAT ARE AWARDED UNDER PA. IN THIS CASE, TWO THINGS HAPPENED. ONE IS ELIGIBILITY FOR WHAT IS CALLED EMERGENCY PROTECTIVE MEASURES AND THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO AFTER DISASTER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS LIVABLE AND YOUR CITIZENS ARE SAFE. AND THEN THERE ARE THE PERMANENT WORK ASPECT THAT IS DAMAGE OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT RESULTS OF DISASTER. TO GET TO THAT POINT THAT THE JUDGE IS MENTIONS ON ELIGIBILITY, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PRELIMINARY DAMAGE ASSESSMENT PROCESS. AND THAT WAS AND THAT WERE THE COSTS THAT WERE TALKING ABOUT HERE THAT WERE ACCRUED. SO, YES, IT WAS UNKNOWN WHETHER OR NOT THERE WOULD BE A PERMANENT WORK OR CATEGORY C THROUGH G ELIGIBILITY, BUT I THINK THERE WAS THE DECISION TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT AND TO EVEN MAKE THE COUNTY ELIGIBLE FOR THAT -- FOR THAT DECISION, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO DOCUMENT YOUR COST. YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT TO THE ST STATE. AND ULTIMATELY TO FEMA WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO YOUR COMMUNITY. SO WITHOUT DOING THAT, THE CHANCES OF GETTING A PERMANENT WORK DISASTER ARE PRETTY MUCH LOW TO NONE. SO I THINK THAT -- HOPEFULLY THAT PROVIDES CLARITY IN TERMS OF HOW THE COSTS WERE -- WERE ACCUMULATED. IT WAS KNOWN THAT THERE WOULD BE THAT THIS IS SOMEBODY THAT WOULD HAPPEN FIRST BEFORE A DECLARATION COULD BE -- COULD BE WEIGHED UPON. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HOW MUCH WAS THAT ATTRIBUTED TO THE AFTER ACTION PLAN? HOW MUCH OF THE $131,000 EXTRA -- HOW MUCH WAS ATTRIBUTESED TO THAT. >> THE AFTER ACTION PLAN WAS $40,000. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHERE IS THE OTHER 90 THEN? ASSUMING FOR SAKE OF ARGUMENT FOR THE MOMENT THAT WE -- I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD ASSUME WE WOULD PAY THE 40 AND FIGURING OUT WHERE TO PAY FOR IT BECAUSE THAT MEANS WE DIDN'T DO SOMETHING OR BUDGET OR SOMETHING AND WE SAID GO RIGHT AHEAD AND DO IT. I WANT TO KNOW HOW WE GOT IN A BOX OF $1 3 INELIGIBLE EXPENSES. THOSE ARE $40. HOW ABOUT THE OTHER FOR INELIGIBLE. >> THE PBA PROCESS THAT I HAD MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY. A MAJORITY OF THAT IS LUMPED UP INTO THAT PROCESS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHY WOULDN'T -- WHY WOULDN'T WE HAVE KNOWN THOSE WOULDN'T BE INELIGIBLE. I DON'T REMEMBER US HAVING THE DISCUSSION TO FIGURE OUT WHY $131,000 OF NONBUDGETED EXPENSES WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR. CAN YOU REMIND -- IF YOU RECOLLECT THAT CONVERSATION AND TELL ME WHEN WE DID IT AND SOMEONE CAN TELL ME WHEN WE DID IT. I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY RECOLLECTION, MATT WHY THIS WAS DISCUSSED AND WHY WE ARE IN THIS $131,000 HOLE? >>JUDGE CANALES: I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU REMEMBER NOT TO EXCEED $100,000 FOR THE WINTER STORM. SO THE PROBABLY HERE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NOT SUPPOSED BE INELIGIBLE. >>JUDGE CANALES: BUT THERE IS NO WAY TO KNOW, COMMISSIONER, WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE GOING TO GO AND GET FEMA TO HAVE A DECLARED DISASTER UNLESS YOU GO THROUGH A PROCESS. THE WAY YOU GET ELIGIBILITY DECLARED AND MEET YOUR STATE THRESHOLD. YOU HAVE TO MEET YOUR COUNTY THRESHOLD AND THE WAY DO YOU THAT IS THROUGH A DISASTER DECLARATION. AN ASSESSMENT AND THAT'S WHY THEY SAY CLIMATE CHANGE COSTS. THESE EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS WE HAVE, HAVE COST OUR COUNTY DOLLARS. AND THE ONLY WAY TO GO GET OUR RECUPERATION IS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHY WAS IT NOT BUDGETED? IT WAS NOT BUDGETED? -- I NEVER SEEN US DO THAT. HOW ARE WE AT A POINT WITH $ $131,000 TO COME UP WITH STUFF IF WE DID ALL THE THINGS YOU SAID, JUDGE, BECAUSE WE NEVER SPEND MONEY WITHOUT BUDGETING IT. WE HAVE SOURCES OF FUNDS FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE DO. >>JUDGE CANALES: DALE IS NOT HERE. CHEST DMES A 13 $131,000 HOLE. I NEED FOR SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN WHY WE ARE AT A $131,000 HOLE BECAUSE SOMEONE SHOULD HAVE TOLD US THIS. WE DON'T SPEND $100,000 WITHOUT BUDGETING IT. WE JUST DON'T. [02:40:02] >>JUDGE CANALES: LET ME GO BACK. DALE IS NOT HERE BUT MAYBE EL VA KNOWS, EVERY TIME A LOCAL DISASTER WE OPEN UP AN ACCOUNT, AND FUNDED FROM SPECIAL REVENUE FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND A LACK OF THE ABILITY TO YOU CANNOT. NO ONE HAS A CRYSTAL BALL. AND MEET OUR COUNTY AND STATE THRESHOLD. AND WE ARE STILL ON APPEAL AND ACCORDING TO FEMA, THEY DID NOT GRANT US THAT DISASTER DECLARATION. THE REASON THAT IS SO CRITICAL WHERE YOU GET YOUR 75-25 COST SHARE AND AS YOU TO HAVE THE INELIGIBILITY. THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE -- COMMISSIONER, IT SEEMS LIKE -- IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE ANSWER, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ASK ELVA. I AM TRYING TO ACT THE AUDITOR, MATT. NOT YOU, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S FINE, COMMISSIONER. FINE, ELVA, WILL YOU DISCUSS -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: AN AUDITOR QUESTION AND A MATT QUESTION. THAT IS WHOM I AM ASKING -- AND YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO PUT YOUR TWO CENTS IN. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THANK YOU, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: ELVA? >> YES, JUDGE. I KNOW THEY SET UP A NUMBER AND THERE ARE MONIES THAT ARE TRANSFERRED TO THAT FUND AND EXPENDITURES ARE HAPPENING AS NEEDED. I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT PART OF IT TO SET A BUDGET SO I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE BUDGET IS FOR THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, THERE IS AN ORDER HERE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CAN I FINISH UP. >>JUDGE CANALES: AS SOON AS COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WAS ASKING QUESTIONS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: GO AHEAD. SHE WOULDN'T WANT TO LET ME GO. GO AHEAD. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU KNOW WHAT -- AND I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS YOU HAVE, COMMISSIONER. OPINION BECAUSE I ALWAYS QUESTIONED IT. I ALWAYS QUESTIONED HAGERTY AS FAR AS -- YOU KNOW SOMETIMES -- I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE PAYING SO MUCH MONEY, YOU KNOW. THE ANSWERS WE ALWAYS GET. WE CAN DO IT OR CAN'T IT. ALWAYS UP TO YOU. AND THE CATEGORIES ARE GOOD CATEGORIES FOR US WHO NOW WHAT THOSE SAEVRTS NOT BEING PART OF REIMBURSEMENT FROM FEMA. ARE WE AWARE OF THAT THAT THE CATEGORIES WE ARE USING NOT GOOD CATEGORIES. EVERYTHING GOES TO YOU. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU LOOK AT THIS CATEGORY AND I DON'T THINK SHOULD REALLY GO INTO A CATEGORY. AND ALL THE MONEY COMES FROM SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS THAT THE GENERAL ACCOUNT PUTS IN THERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH -- ELVA. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH -- HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE FILLED OUT THAT FUND THERE THAT WE SAY WE ARE LOW AND GOING TO PUT MORE MONEY. WE HAVE THE GENERAL ACCOUNT ALREADY. AND EVERY TIME WE SPENDING IS IT COMES TO THE GENERAL ACC ACCOUNT. WE ARE HOPING TO GET IT BACK TO PAY IT BACK TO THE GENERAL ACCOUNT. IF WE DON'T GET IT BACK, IT IS A LOSS. SO I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH MONEY ON THE SPECIAL REVENUE ACCOUNT. STILL COME TO THE GENERAL ACCOUNT, RIGHT? >> WE END UP FUNDING IT, YES. AND JUST -- SOMETHING THAT WE CAPTURE THERE UNTIL WE RECEIVED APPROVAL OF -- OF FEDERAL MONIES, YES. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE DON'T RECEIVE EVERYTHING, WE LOSE IT. OR REALREADY SPEND IT. >> TAKE IT INTO THE GENERAL FUND. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I DIDN'T PULL IT FROM THE SPECIAL MOTION, $23,000 FOR ONE MONTH. HOW MUCH MONEY TO PAY CONSULTANTS $23,500. I DON'T KNOW WHO NEIGHBORS IN 30 DAYS. THE TIME FRAME IS 30 DAYS. HOW DO YOU HAPPEN. ARE WE PAYING THAT MUCH MONEY. I AM ASKING THE AUDITOR NOW. AND THEN. THAT 23,000 WHEN YOU PAY IT, IT COMES OUT OF THAT SPECIAL REVENUE FUND WE PUT ASIDE FROM THE GENERAL ACCOUNT, RIGHT? >> THAT ONE I THINK IT IS -- I FORGOT WHAT THE CODING WAS. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. SOMETHING PER CONTRACT WITH HAGERTY. [02:45:02] A CONTRACT WITH HAGERTY. AND WE FOLLOW THAT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: BUT WE ARE PAYING THEM THROUGH THE REVENUE FUNDS THAT WE PUT FROM THE GENERAL ACCOUNT? RIGHT? >>JUDGE CANALES: NO, SIR. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: LET SOMEBODY -- >> LET ME LOOK AT THE CODING FOR THAT REAL QUICK. I AM SORRY. >>JUDGE CANALES: DEPENDS -- YOU NEED TO SPECIFY SO SHE CAN ANSWER IT IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE. THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT HAVE BEEN RECUPERATED THEN, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CORONAVIRUS RELIEF FUND THE CARES ACT. MANY DOLLARS FROM THE CESF ACT, THE CORONAVIRUS SUPPLEMENTAL FUND. YOU HAVE TO ASK. WE HAVE SPREADSHEETS THAT MARIA CAN POSSIBLY PROVIDE THAT SHOWCASE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT AMOUNTS THAT HAVE BEEN UNDER OUR OWN COURT-APPROVED NOT TO EXCEEDS. AND ALL THE CONTRACT -- THE CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE SIGNED ILLUSTRATE IN PLAIN ENGLISH EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE ENTITLED TO FOR THE HOURS THEY WORK. WE ARE TRYING TO RECUPERATE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: LET'S ME JUST FINISH MY QUESTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: MATT, I AM ASKING YOU AGAIN THAT I ASKED A WHILE AGO. WHEN YOU SEE THE CATEGORIES. DO WE SAY WE WILL GET REIMBURSED. SAY PUBLIC WORKS. BUILDING SUPERINTENDENT, HAGERTY, PURCHASING. DO YOU ALL LOOK AT THAT AND SAY -- IT IS A RED LINE THAT SAYS, WAIT A MINUTE, THIS IS NOT A GOOD CATEGORY. DOES IT TELL US, HEY, DON'T PAY IT OR YOU MIGHT NOT GET IT BACK AT ALL? >> IF I AM UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION IS IT REGARDING HOW TO PURSUE FEMA CATEGORIES FOR REIMBURSEMENT? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I MEAN, DO YOU ALL KNOW -- DO YOU ALL KNOW -- I MEAN, Y'ALL HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS -- I DON'T KNOW FOR EVERBUT DO YOU KNOW THE CATEGORIES TO PAY? >> ALL DEPENDS ON THE DISASTER. PROCESS THAT I EXPLAINED BE BEFORE. YOU HAVE TWO CHOICES AFTER A DISASTER. YOU CAN DO NOTHING OR TRY TO DOCUMENT YOUR ELIGIBLE COSTS OR WHAT YOU THINK ARE GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE COST TO MAKE YOUR CASE FOR A DECLARATION. OFTENTIMES LIMITED RESOURCES TO DO THESE KIND OF DECLARATIONS SO YOU AS A COUNTY CAN BRING IN A THIRD-PARTY VENDOR TO HELP DO THAT AND CONDUCT THE PRELIMINARY DAMAGE ASSESSMENT. THE RESULTS OF THAT ARE WHAT TRIGGERED THE ELIGIBILITY UNDER. YOU WON'T KNOW BEFOREHAND IF YOU ARE ASKING ME. >>JUDGE CANALES: MATT, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE HAVE TO MAKE A LIFE OR DEATH DECISION TO PUT ROCK SALT ON OUR ROADS. WE HAVE NO IDEA WHEN WE ARE DOING THAT WHETHER OR NOT THAT WILL BE ELIGIBLE OR NOT. WE WOULD HOPE UNDER EMERGENCY PROTECTIVE MEASURES IT WOULD COME AS A LOGICAL EXPENSE THAT GETS DEEMED ELIGIBLE, BUT IN THIS BIZARRE CASE, IT DID NOT. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE FACED W WITH. THERE ARE SOME INELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES ACCORDING TO FEMA THAT ARE INELIGIBLE. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO, NOT BURY TURTLES? NOT PUT ICE ON ROADS? NOT PROVIDE ICE AND BLANKETS? SURE, YOU WILL SAY MAYBE FEMA WON'T DO THAT. THAT IS NOT THE NATURE OF THE DISASTER. WHEN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DECLARES A LOCAL DISASTER AND OUR FINANCE TEAM IS PART OF THAT PROCESS. THE FIRST THING THEY DO IS SAY WE NEED TO OPEN UP A PROJECT WORKSHEET. WE GIVE THEM A NUMBER. PROCESS DOLLARS AND DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN TO BRING BACK THE DOLLARS THAT THEY SPEND. THAT IS THE WHOLE NATURE OF THE EMERGENCY. IF YOU DON'T PROVIDE THE ASSESSMENT, YOU WILL NOT KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THE CATEGORIES WILL BE OPEN AND AVAILABLE TO YOU. MATT SAYS YOU CAN DO NOTHING. THIS IS WHAT THE COUNTY HAS DONE IN THE PAST, OR YOU CAN TRY TO GO AND RECUPERATE YOUR DOLLARS. WE HAD EVERY REASONABLE EXPECTATION THAT WINTER STORM YURI WOULD BE ONE THAT YOU SHOULD COMPLETELY AND THOROUGHLY ASSESS. AND BY THE WAY WHEN WE ASSESS WE DON'T JUST ASSESS FOR US, WE ASSESS THROUGH OUR COUNTY. SAME THINGS FOR HANNA. THE REASON TO GO UP TO THE STATE LEVEL. CUMULATIVELY OF NUECES COUNTY DAMAGE. CUMULATIVELY. A SCHOOL DISTRICT AND WATER DISTRICT. ANY POLITICAL JURISDICTION, THE [02:50:03] PORT. WE ALL POOL OUR DAMAGES TOGETHER UNDER A DAMAGE ASSESSMENT. A VERY ONEROUS AND LABOR INTENSIVE PROCESS AND YIELD THIS COUNTY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN OTHER DISASTERS. OUR PROBLEM IS THAT WE HAD SEVEN DISASTERS IN TWO YEARS. AND THAT IS A LOT TO DEEM WITH. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW TO TAKE CARE OF A COUNTY, YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOUR CASH RESERVES ARE 25% AND NOW I THINK THEY SHOULD BE 30% BECAUSE WE ARE EXPERIENCING SO MANY DISASTERS LIVING ON THE GULF COAST. THAT IS HOW DO YOU IT. YOU CERTAINLY DON'T SAY DON'T DO ANYTHING. THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. SO THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW WHETHER IT WILL BE ELIGIBLE IS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SUBMIT THIS TO FEMA. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S CORRECT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: HOW MANY TIMES THAT FEMA SAID, NO, WE ARE NOT GOING TO COVER THAT. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE THEY SAID, NO, WE ARE NOT GOING TO RECOVER THIS? >> THEY MAKE DECISIONS ALL THE TIME THAT ARE POSITIVE AND OR NEGATIVE FOR SOME APPLICANTS LIKE NUECES COUNTY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THEY SAID NO. SAY THE FIRST TIME BUT THE SECOND TIME. >> MANY COUNTIES IN TEXAS THAT WERE NOT DECLARED FOR PUBLIC ASSISTANCE IN THIS EVENT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: LET ME FINISH MY QUESTION. WHEN THEY SAID NOT FIRST TIME AND SECOND TIME, WHY ARE WE -- WHY ARE WE CONTINUING TO SUBMIT THE SAME CATEGORIES AGAIN SO HOPEFULLY THEY WILL SAY YES? THAT IS WHAT I SEE HERE. >> NO, I THINK THAT -- THAT IS THE NATURE OF OUR CONTRACT HAS A TASK ORDER PROCESS SO WE ARE DOING THINGS INCREMENT ALLEY WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS. SO ALL OF OUR COSTS AS I SAID AT THE TOP OF THIS WERE RELATED TO EXPLORING THE ELIGIBILITY FOR WORK AND INFRASTRUCTURE DAMAGE FOR THE PDA PROCESS. WE STOP THERE. WE DIDN'T CONTINUE TO ACCUMULATE COSTS THE ONLY THING IS RELATED TO THE CATEGORY B AND FORMULATING THOSE GRANTS BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY HAVE ELIGIBLE FOR ELIGIBLE UNDER FEMA. WE ARE NOT WORKING ON THE OTHER STUFF ANYMORE. THAT IS HOW WE HAVE CHECK POINTS IN OUR TASK ORDER PROCESS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SAY, FOR INSTANCE, HAGERTY PAYMENTS. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PAYMENTS. $114,000. WE ONLY APPROVED $16,000. SO WAS THERE A POINT WHERE THEY SAID, NO, WE ARE NOT GOING TO COVER THIS AMOUNT FOR CONSULTANT. DID THEY DENY THAT MORE THAN ONCE FOR THE CONSULTANT WORK FOR HAGERTY? >> AGAIN, I THINK THE $113 IS GETTING COMBINED AND THOSE ARE SEPARATE THINGS. ONE IS THE AFTER ACTION REPORT THAT SITS ASIDE FROM WHAT WE ARE ABOUT. SECOND PIECE, YES, PART OF THE PRELIMINARY DAMAGE PROCESS WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO SUBMIT THROUGH FEMA FOR ELIGIBLE UNDER PUBLIC ASSISTANCE. I BELIEVE THAT HAPPENED ONE TIME. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: JUDGE, AT THE END OF THE DAY WE GOT TO DO WHAT WE GOT TO DO. PAY FOR GENERAL ACCOUNT. AND JUST TO CONTINUE HOPING AND SAYING THAT WE GOT TO SPEND MORE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO BE REIMBURSED. I THINK AT ONE POINT, LET'S PAY WHAT WE OWE AND MOVE FORWARD. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WISH IT -- I THINK THAT THE WAY THAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING IT WOULD DOESN'T COMPORT WHAT THE REALITY IS. FIRST OF ALL, HAGERTY IS ASSISTING US WITH COVID-19. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IT PIECEMEAL. COVID-19 HAD PUBLIC ASSISTANCE AND OTHER LEGISLATION LIKE CARES ACT. LIKE THE CESF THAT CAME THROUGH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND LIKE AMERICA RESCUE PLAN ACT. ALL OF THOSE HAVE CONGRESSIONAL ACTS SIGNED INTO LAW BY THE PRESIDENT AND THEY ALLOW FOR THE RECUPERATION OF THE DOLLARS WE NEED TO BOTH OF A MR. FOR THE GRANT AND MANAGE GRANT. WHEN IT COMES TO COVID-19, TRUST ME, HAVING HAGERTY CHASE EVERY ELIGIBLE EXPENSE IS ABSOLUTELY NEEDED TO SPEND THE DOLLARS THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO US. FOR EXAMPLE, CIF. WE HAD $5 MILLION THERE. NOT LIKE THEY GIVE IT TO YOU. TO DRAW DOWN FROM THAT AMOUNT [02:55:05] OF MONEY WE HAVE TO PROVE EACH TIME WE USE -- SPEND DOLLARS FOR THE BENEFITS OF THE COUNTY FOR COVID-19 THAT WE WERE ELIGIBLE. SO, YES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN EXPERT CHASE ALL OF THOSE DOLLARS THAT THEY ALREADY SAID THEY HAVE GIVEN TO YOU, BUT THEY ARE NOT REALLY YOURS UNTIL YOU GET APPROVED THAT THEY ARE ELIGIBLE. OKAY, EVEN IF THEY ARE SITTING IN YOUR TREASURY WHICH THEY ARE TODAY. $35 MILLION IS SITTING IN OUR TREASURY TODAY. BUT THE POINT IS THAT WE ABSOLUTELY NEED. MATT. HOW MANY JURISDICTIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, JUST ROUGHLY. HUNDREDS. AND WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE IS THE SAME THING THAT ALL JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE RECEIVING FEDERAL FUNDS FOR COVID-19 ARE DOING. AND THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT YOU DO IT BY. NOW COVID-19, AS I SAID HAS FEDERAL LAW THAT ALLOWS FOR THE ELIGIBLE OF THESE EXPENSES. SAME THING WITH THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT. THOSE TWO WERE DOING FINE ON. BUT GUESS WHAT, WE GOT HIT WITH TWO DISASTERS -- I MEAN THAT QUITE FRANKLY ARE -- THEY HAVE TO COST THE COUNTY SOMETHING. I MEAN HOW CAN YOU GET THROUGH A DISASTER AND YOU DON'T HAVE A FEDERAL DECLARATION AND NOT THINK FOR A SECOND THAT IT WON'T COST YOU. YOU HAVE A DUTY. FINANCIAL FISCAL DUTS TOW GO FORWARD AND MAKE THOSE FUNDS. FOR EXAMPLE, THE TURTLE BURIAL. ONLY $6500. WE CHASED IT. AND WE CHASED IT HARD. BUT THAT CATEGORY, EMERGENCY PROTECTION MEASURES ARE ALWAYS THERE FOR YOU. BUT, I MEAN, IN THIS CASE, IT WASN'T. WE THOUGHT IT WAS AN EMERGENCY. AND WE PLED OUR CASE. AND FEMA SAID NO. THE MONEY WE USED TO CHASE THAT IS MONEY LOST THAT'S CORRECT. HOW YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN IF NOT CHASED IT. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT TO FIGHT FOR YOUR DOLLARS. FIVE YEARS FOR HURRICANE HARVEY TO GET INSURANCE MONEY. WHAT WE ARE DOING IS SORT OF A MIRACLE BRINGING IN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THEY SAY THEY ARE YOURS BUT NOT YOURS UNTILER ELIGIBLE AND THAT IS WHAT HAGERTY IS DOING AND NO RESOURCE THAT IS AVAILABLE TO US WITHOUT THIS TYPE OF EXPERTISE. SO WINTER STORM YURI. ONE THAT THE COURT RECEIVED AND DISCUSSED AND INCREDIBLY VALUABLE UNLESS YOU WISH FOR HISTORY TO REPEAT ITSELF. JURISDICTIONS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND BEST PRACTICES INSIDE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO HAVE AFTER ACTION REPORTS. OTHERWISE WE WON'T HAVE THINGS LIKE STRATEGIC RESERVE OF BABY MILK, WATER AND DIAPERS. I MEAN THAT IS WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO. WHY WOULD YOU BEGRUDGE THE PROCESS THAT IS HERE TO HELP SAVE LIVES. I UNDERSTAND THAT IS VERY UNFAIR FOR WINTER STORM YURI TO HAVE FEMA GIVE US ALL THE CATEGORIES, BUT THEY DID NOT. THE DOLLARS WE USE WAS TO HELPFULLY GET THE CATEGORIES OPEN AND ONE OF 40 DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY COUNTIES, MATT. MANY, MANY TEXAS COUNTIES AND BASICALLY EVERYBODY SOUTH OF SAN ANTONIO GOT XED OUT OF THIS BECAUSE APPARENTLY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SNOW FALL. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SNOW FALL. STRANGE PARAMETERS THAT WERE GIVEN HAND TO DO THAT DAMAGE ASSESSMENT. IT WOULD BE NEGLIGENT NOT TO DO THE DAMAGE ASSESSMENT. THAT IS WHY UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO AND ABOUT $80,000. AND AS MATT POINTED OUT. $40,000 IS THE AFTER ACTION REVIEW REPORT AND THAT IS NOT ELIGIBLE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. SO IT IS REALLY ABOUT $80,000. THAT'S CORRECT? ELVA? >> PROBABLY ABOUT $6 0,000. >>JUDGE CANALES: $60,000. >> OR $70. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS THE COST OF EMERGENCIES IF YOU GIVE YOUR COUNTY AN OPPORTUNITY TO COLLECT, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CREATE ELIGIBILITY. HOW ELSE DO YOU WANT TO TRY TO GET THE OTHER DOLLARS RECUPERATED. BY THE WAY WHEN WE DO THIS AND GET DECLARATION. WE DO SO FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY. [03:00:02] WE DON'T GET THE DECLARATION FOR THOSE CATEGORIES. WE SHOULD HAVE AND JUST LIKE WE DIDN'T GET FOR HANNA. I MEAN, I WISH THAT DALE WERE HERE BECAUSE HE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THE SPECIAL REVENUE. HOW HE OPENS UP THESE PIECES AND THAT IS WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM, BUT THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE CASH RESERVES FOR EMERGENCIES WHERE YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE OFF ROBUST CASH RESERVE BUT YOUR GENERAL FUND WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT WHICH ALL THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT ELVA LISTED DO NOT COVER. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, CAN I GO BACK TO MY ORIGINAL THING SINCE YOU MADE THIS ABOUT NOT -- YOU ARE SOMEHOW INTERPRETING THIS AS NOT WANTING TO GO AFTER THESE DOLLARS. MY QUESTIONS WERE SPECIFICALLY WHY WE HAVE $131,000 TO HAGERTY NOT ON EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT AND IF THIS IS A TRUE EMERGENCY AND YOU CLAIMED WHEN WE WERE HAVING THE WATER DISCUSSION THAT PEOPLE DIED. AND IF PEOPLE DIED. I STILL DON'T KNOW WHERE THE PEOPLE DIED, BUT IF IT DID, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN AN EMERGENCY AND WHY HAGERTY WOULDN'T KNOW THAT AND WHY WE ARE SPENDING THESE FUNDS OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. BECAUSE WHEN WE HIRED HAGERTY, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MAJORITY IF NOT ALL OF THE FUNDS FOR HAGERTY WOULD BE PAID OUT OF ARPA REIMBURSEMENT AND FEDERAL REIMBURSEMENT FUNDS AND WE ARE NOW BEING ASKED TO PAY HAGERTY. I AM NOT TALKING OF GOING AFTER ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO SAY TO MAKE IT EMOTIONAL AND ALL THIS, I AM ASKING ABOUT HAGERTY'S FUNDS. NOT WHY WE DIDN'T GO AFTER THE TURTLES. NOBODY ASKED ABOUT THAT, BUT YOU BRING IT UP. I AM GOING TO GO BACK TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION WHICH STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ANSWER TODAY MY SUFFICIENCY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE PAYING HAGERTY $131,000 THAT00 IS HAVE BEEN ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT. GREAT, THE AFTER ACTION PLAN. SHOULD HAVE BEEN ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER EXPLAINED. IF THIS WAS A BUDGETED ITEM AND THIS WAS SET UP. SHOW ME WHERE THIS IS SET UP AND WE KNEW WE WOULD PAY THE $131,000. THESE CAME OUT AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO PAY THEM. NOT LOGICAL TO SAY WE KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN OR WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY IT. YOU CAN GO INTO ALL THE LENGTHY DISCUSSION ON DISASTER STUFF, BUT THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE TODAY. THE ISSUE BEFORE US TODAY WHY WE ARE PAYING HAGERTY OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. THAT'S IT. NOT ASKING ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE WITH REGARDS TO GOING AFTER FUNDS. I WANT TO KNOW HAGERTY AND WHY WE ARE PAYING $131,000 OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AND IT WAS NOT BUDGETED AND WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY SAYING WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PAY IT FROM. THAT IS ALL I BROUGHT UP. NOT ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE QUESTIONS I AM ASKED. I WANT TO BE CLEAR, I AM WAITING FOR AN EXPLANATION WHY THIS COURT DIDN'T BUDGET THE $131,000. WE DON'T DO THAT THIS WAY. THAT IS NOT HOW WE DO BUSINESS. WE ALWAYS SAY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS BUDGETED NOW. NOT HAVE TO GO SCRAMBLE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO COME UP WITH IT. SO THAT WAS THE ONLY ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IS HAGERTY AND HAGERTY'S PAYMENTS NOT GOING AFTER ALL THESE OTHER FUNDS THAT YOU KEEP GOING INTO AND CHASING US DOWN A PATH THAT EVEN WASN'T ASKED. >>JUDGE CANALES: SORRY YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I UNDERSTAND IS IT VERY WELL. IT IS CALLED DEFLECTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU ARE JUST BEING VERY RUDE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM BEING VERY HONEST. IT IS CALLED HONESTY. I AM NOT BEING RUDE. I AM NOT AGREEING WITH YOU AT ALL. >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. GIVE ME ONE MOMENT. LET ME HAVE HIM FINISH. ELVA, WE ARE GOING TO ASK WHEN DALE COMES NEXT WEEK THAT HE CAN CONTINUE TO HELP COMMISSIONER CHESNEY UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE BUDGETED PIECE OF IT. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU ARE IN A POSITION -- ARE YOU IN A POSITION TO HELP EXPLAIN IT? >> I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT WE DON'T REALLY -- THAT I KNOW OF -- PWCHBLING A DISASTER. BECAUSE -- BUDGET A DISASTER BECAUSE NO WAY TO KNOW HOW MUCH IT WILL COST. WE DON'T KNOW I KNOW WE SET UP THAT FUND, THE CODING THAT IS SPECIFIC TO THE -- TO THE DIFFERENT DISASTERS. AND BASED ON EITHER INELIGIBILITY. WHATEVER THE EXPENSE IS, THOSE THAT ARE NOT REIMBURSEMENT ARE [03:05:01] NORMALLY SENT TO THE GENERAL FUND. THAT IS JUST OUR NORMAL PROCESS. >>JUDGE CANALES: A NORMAL PROCESS. WHEN WE HAVE A DISASTER, YOU OPEN UP THE ACCOUNT WITH A NUMBER. AND IF MONEY IS EXPENSED, THE PROCESS IS THAT THE GENERAL FUND COVERS IT. >> IF IT IS NOT ELIGIBLE. >>JUDGE CANALES: IF IT IS NOT ELIGIBLE. >> FOR REIMBURSEMENT JUDGE JUDGE RELATE TO JUDGE THAT NEXT WEEK FURTHER, I GUESS, PROVIDE MORE EXPLANATION. THE REASON THAT MATT, WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR. AND I WILL GO TO COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ IN A MINUTE. BUT WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR IS A BREAKDOWN BECAUSE I FEEL THERE IS A BREAKDOWN OF COMMUNICATION WITH REGARD TO THE WINTER ST STORM. THE REASON WE TALKED ABOUT THE TURTLES AND ALL OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ELVA MENTIONED THAT IN ORDER TO GET THOSE DECLARED ELIGIBLE, YOU HAD TO DO WORK. THAT IS THE WORK THAT IS NOT BEING COVERED BECAUSE THE WORK ITSELF WAS NOT DEEMED ELIGIBLE. IS THAT CORRECT? I WANT YOU TO FOCUS ON FOR A SECOND. IS THAT -- THAT BREAKDOWN OF ELVA SAID 60. I HAD IT AT 80. FIGURE OUT WHAT THE RIGHT NUMBER IS. OUT OF THE MONEY THAT WE NEED TO APPROPRIATE FOR THE GENERAL FUND FOR THAT WHICH WILL NOT BE ELIGIBLE, 40 OF IT, MORE OR LESS IS THE WINTER STORM AFTER ACTION REPORT. AND THE REMAINDER, WHICH IS NOT ELIGIBLE, RIGHT, BUT WHAT WE KNEW ABOUT THAT. BUT THE OTHER PART IS THE -- REMAINDER. WHAT THAT NUMBER IT, FROM THE 60,000 TO 80 MARK. THE AUDITORS IS SAYING LET ME COME UP WITH A SOURCE WHICH IS NORMALLY THE GENERAL FUND. >> WE ARE SAYING SINCE THE OTHER FUNDS DID HAVE THE MONEY -- >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL TAKE IT FROM THE OTHER FUNDS. >> AND MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OF THE GENERAL FUND. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? >>JUDGE CANALES: PUBLIC WORKS, IF THEY SPENT $3,000 ON ICE AND 4000 FOR THE PERSONNEL. CAN ABSORB THAT ON THE BUDGET. LATER ON THERE IS AN AGENDA ITEM THAT WILL ALLOW US TO ACT SO THAT THOSE BUDGETARY ITEMS WILL BE ABSORBED BY THE DEPARTMENTS THAT USE OUTIZED. AGAIN, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY WANTS MORE EXPLANATION. HE WANTS TO KNOW WHY WE HAVE TO PAY. AND THE ANSWER IS BECAUSE THEY DID THE WORK IN ANTICIPATION THAT WE COULD GET IT DEEMED ELIGIBLE, BUT THE WINTER STORM YURI IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER DISASTERS AND ONLY OPENED UP ONE CATEGORY. IN ORDER TO GET THE OTHER CATEGORIES, WE HAD TO MAKE THAT ATTEMPT. SO COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR ELVA. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: YES. I HAVE AN INVOICE AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT OR NOT. INVOICE 7800. AND IT'S FOR CONSULTANT SERVICES FROM HAGERTY FROM -- FROM 11-27-21 TO 12-31-21. AND IT IS $23 NOW, 906.76. >> THERE IS A BACK-UP IN THE SPECIAL MOTION WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. AND COVERED -- SORRY. IT IS PAID OUT OF, I GUESS 2 2134. AND I THINK THAT IS THE ARPA CODING. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: THE SAME INVOICE THAT COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ WAS TALKING ABOUT? >> NO, THING IS A DIFFERENT ITEM, IF I AM -- THIS IS FOR ARPA SUPPORT NOT FOR THE WINTER STORM. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: FOR A MONTH. CONSULTING SERVICES FOR A MONTH. >> HAGERTY CONSULTANTS. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I WONDER HOW MUCH MONEY THE COUNTY HAS LOST ON THINGS THAT WERE NOT ELIGIBLE. I AM GOING BACK TOWARD THE WATER AND FOOD SERVICE. >> THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY THAT WE NEVER GOT FROM FEMA FROM OTHER DISASTERS. SOMETIMES IT TAKES YEARS TO GET REIMBURSED FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND GET APPROVAL OR DENIAL. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I AM TALKING ABOUT THE WATER THAT JUST HAPPENED RECENTLY. MAYBE LAST YEAR AND THEN COVID. BUYING FOOD FOR PEOPLE. HAVE WE EVER GOT REIMBURSED. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I DON'T THINK WE WERE TOLD THE FULL AMOUNT THAT WE LOST ON CERTAIN THINGS LIKE THE WATER AND THE FOOD SERVICE. >> WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T THINK [03:10:04] IT IS PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM. I AM HAPPY TO GIVE IT TO YOU. WE DID GET -- WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING REIMBURSED FOR THE WATER. I KNOW YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THAT. THE 'IS, YES. WE ARE GETTING REIMBURSED FOR THE WATER AND REIMBURSED WITH THE FOOD. IF YOU WERE INTERESTED IN THAT, WE WILL GET YOU A SPREADSHEET. BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU. AND THE ANSWER IS, WOVE GOTTEN IT. AGAIN, COVID-19 HAS -- HAS ITS OWN FUND AND SO DOES FEMA. SO DOES ARPA. SO WE ARE FIXATED HERE ON THE WINTER STORM YURI, BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW THE WATER WAS DEEMED EMERGENCY PROTECTION MEASURES AND IT WAS ELIGIBLE UNDER THE CATEGORY B. IF THAT WHICH YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT DID GET ELIGIBLE UNDER CATEGORY B. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW. >>JUDGE CANALES: DEFINITELY DID AND I AM HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT MAYBE NEXT WEEK SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, BUT THAT IS PART OF THE ELIGIBLE -- ELIGIBILITY, B, THE CATEGORY B, DID GET SERVICED FOR THAT. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: OKAY. THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHT, I AM NOT SURE WE ARE ANY FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, BUTS THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION. AND IF THERE ARE ANY LEGAL QUESTIONS, WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING THOSE UP THAT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. WE WILL WAIT FOR DALE BACK HOME AS THEY SAY NEXT WEEK. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE BROOK IS [11. Discuss and consider ARPA Premium Pay for Health District employees, including any increase.] PREMIUM PAY. AND PREMIUM PAY FOR HEALTH DISTRICT EMPLOYEES IS ITEM NUMBER 11. AND SO WE HAD IN A PREVIOUS COURT DECIDED WE WANTED TO RELOOK AT THIS AGAIN. AND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. CAN YOU GET YOUR -- THANK YOU. WE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THIS AGAIN. SO YOU WILL NOTICE THAT ITEM 11 AND 12 DEAL WITH ARPA AND PREMIUM PAY. SO AT THIS TIME, I WOULD -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: 10% WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FROM ARPA? >>JUDGE CANALES: WE DID 10%. AND THE CONSIDERATION HERE IS WHETHER WE WILL DO A GREATER AMOUNT, 15% OR 20% FOR HEALTH DISTRICT EMPLOYEES AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO DO THE 20%. THERE ARE 27, RIGHT. >> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT IS 27 OR 28. HOWEVER MANY THERE ARE. MOTION AND A SECOND, AND FOR THE INFORMATION, I WILL HAVE TO YIELD TO ELVA ON THAT COST. >> 27% OF THE TOTAL COST FOR SALARIES AND BENEFITS ON THAT IS $121,714. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE SOURCE WILL BE THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT. >> YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ELVA ON THIS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUST A QUESTION STARTING WHEN, JUDGE? THE FIRST? >>JUDGE CANALES: WELL, ELVA, THEY HAVE DONE ONE PAYMENT ALREADY. THE REAL QUESTION IS WHAT WE DID FOR EVERYBODY IS STARTED THIS IN JANUARY. I DON'T KNOW. I AM NOT HERE IS TO TELL YOU HOW YOU ALL WILL FIX THAT, BUT I WOULD SAY IT WOULD. -- >> I DO NOT RECALL THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: THEY DID JANUARY 1. MIGHT BE TRICKY BUT I WOULD SAY JANUARY 1 TO GO EVERYBODY. THE WAY WE DID EVERYBODY. >> JUDGE, ONE OF OUR CONCERNS WITH THAT WAS BECAUSE OF OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE -- WITH THE CITY -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I CAN BARELY HEAR HER. >> SORRY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. OUR CONCERN WAS WITH THE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY, HOW WOULD WE TRANSFER THE MONIES TO THEM IF IT IS GOING TO BE DONE RETRO. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU ARE SAYING THE BEST SOURCE IS MARCH 1. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE HAVE A PROVISION IN PREMIUM THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF ARPA BAY BAY PAY. THE CITY HAS NEGOTIATED WITH US. >> A FUTURE DATE WILL BE ADVISABLE JUDGE. >> JUST TO CLARIFY, 10% ON TOP OF THE 20%. >>JUDGE CANALES: TOTAL. GOES FROM 10% TO 20%. THAT IS TRUE YOU CAN PUT IT THAT WAY BUT MAKE REFERENCE IT IS A TOTAL OF. ALL RIGHT. [03:15:01] SO TOTAL OF SDOYLT MOTION SUBJECT TO THAT CHANGE AND YOU WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: MAYBE IN EXECUTIVE YOU CAN EXPLAIN. I -- I AM SURE A GOOD EXPLANATION FOR THE FUTURE, BUT [12. Discuss and consider increasing the percentage of future ARPA premium pay for county public works employees that work within the jail and annex on a daily basis.] YOU WILL EXPLAIN IT TO ME THEN. THE SECOND ONE IS NUMBER 12. IT CAME TO OUR ATTENTION THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS OR PERHAPS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I CAN'T RECALL, THAT WE HAD LEFT OFF SOME FOLKS WHO DID OUR PREMIUM PAY FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT MAYBE AREN'T LAW ENFORCEMENT AND WORKING I CAN SIDE THE JAIL AND THE ANNEX AND WE HAD LEFT OFF SOME FOLKS. THIS IS -- THINK OF IT AS A CLEANUP TO GET ALL THE RIGHT PEOPLE ON THE LIST AND I BELIEVE THIS COST IS -- ELVA FOR GIVE ME. >> 101,316. >>JUDGE CANALES: FUNDING IS THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT. >> YES, MA'AM. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE SAME. STARTS MARCH OR GO THROUGH JANUARY -- >> APRIL, I GUESS. HOW THE EMPLOYEES ARE BEING PAID. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHEN WILL THIS START. YOU KNOW WHAT, THESE GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO OCTOBER. JUAN, REMEMBER, BECAUSE THEY WERE LAW ENFORCEMENT. >> 20% MOVING FORWARD. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I KNOW NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT. BUT WE ARE TREATING THEM WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT WHEN THEIR ARPA STARTED. THE ORIGINAL FOLKS THAT GOT INCLUDED. THESE ARE ADDED TO THE LIST. THE QUESTION IS WHEN DID WE START THOSE FOLKS. >> THE ORIGINAL INCLUDED THE DEFINITION. THE POLICY WAS DEFINED AS THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AND OUR FOLKS. IF YOU WERE CHANGING THE PO POLICY. THE POLICY TO ADD THESE NEW PEOPLE WOULD NOT BE IN PLACE UNTIL SOME FUTURE DATE. >>JUDGE CANALES: IS IT JAN JANUARY? >> IF YOU WERE CHANGING TODAY THE POLICY TO ADD A DIFFERENT CLASS OF PEOPLE BECAUSE THESE ARE NOT -- JUDGE THE WAY THE AGENDA ITEM AS I RECALL -- MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT IT AGAIN IN THE EXECUTIVE. THE WAY THE ORIGINAL AGENDA ITEM COLLECTIVE BARGAINING FOLKS AND INDIVIDUALS, THOSE PLUMBERS AND MAINTENANCE FOLKS THAT WERE WORKING INSIDE THE JAIL ABSOLUTELY DELINEATED IN AN AGENDA ITEM. ALL I AM ASKING FOR WHAT IS THE RIGHT DATE. WHATEVER IT IS THAT CREATES CONSISTENCY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: DIDN'T INCLUDE EVERYBODY. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE DID. THE QUESTION IS WHAT DATE. ANYWAY, CAN WE INVESTIGATE THE DATE. IT IS WHATEVER IT IS. WE ARE JUST ADDING TO THE LIST. PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT IS CONSISTENT SO THEY ARE NOT TREATED ANY DIFFERENTLY OKAY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WOULD THIS NOT BE THE FUTURE DATE REFERENCE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T KNOW. I ASKED HER TO ADVISE NEWS EXECUTIVE SESSION. THE MOTION IS SUBJECT TO THE DATE BEING CONFIRMED. BUT AGAIN IF YOU WERE LEFT OFF THE LIST YOU SHOULDN'T BE PUNISHED IF LEFT OFF. YOU JUST HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT. THE MOTION IS WE ARE APPROVING THE LIST OF -- IT IS 17? CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME? IT IS IN THE BOOK. HOLD ON. THEY ARE LISTED ITEM NUMBER 12. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THE ONES PROVIDED TO ME FROM THE LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH THE MEETING WE HAD WITH THEM. >>JUDGE CANALES: CORRECT. THEY ARE LISTED IN YOUR BOOK. AND THOSE FOLKS AT THE MAIN JAIL AND THOSE FOLKS AT THE ANNEX HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED AS PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEES TO BE CONSIDERED THAT WERE NOT CONSIDERED BEFORE FOR ARPA PREMIUM PAY WORKING INSIDE THE JAIL AND MY QUESTION REALLY IS, CAN WE MAKE THE MOTION SUBJECT TO CONFIRMATION OF THE DATE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEES. IS THAT AN OKAY MOTION? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NOT THE OTHER PUBLIC WORK EMPL EMPLOYEES, JUDGE, THE OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT SUPPORT EMPLOYEES THAT I THINK YOU ARE REFE REFERENCING. WE DIDN'T. THESE ARE -- I THINK THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE REFERENCING THE OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT SUPPORT PEOPLE NOT THE PUBLIC WORKS. THESE ARE THE ONLY PUBLIC WORKS PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY WORK IN THE JAIL. >>JUDGE CANALES: THIS REPRESENTS THE UNIVERSE THAT WE DIDN'T ALWAYS -- THIS WAS REPRESENTED TO ME THAT THESE WERE EXTRA. YOU ARE TELLING ME THE ONLY PEOPLE IN THE JAIL THAT WORK FOR PUBLIC WORKS? .>JUDGE >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YES, MA'AM. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT WAS OUR INTENTION BUT WE DIDN'T DEFINE IT, IS THAT CORRECT? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THESE NAMES WERE BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION LATER. WE DIDN'T REALIZE UNTIL THE LAW ENFORCEMENT FOLKS WHEN WE MET BEFORE BROUGHT THIS TO MY ATTENTION. I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THESE [03:20:02] FOLKS WERE IN THE JAIL ON A DAILY BASE FRIDAYS PUBLIC WO WORKS. THAT IS WHY I PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO INCLUDE THEM, BECAUSE WAS CONFIRMED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT THESE FOLKS WERE MOST OF THE JOBS WERE WORKING ON THE FRONT LINE IN THE JAIL. >>JUDGE CANALES: MY QUESTION IS WE ADDRESSED THEM BEFORE. AND NOW WE ARE NAMING THEM. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE DID NOT ADDRESS THEM BEFORE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: WE DID. WE DEFINITELY DID. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE DID BY DEPARTMENT, COMMISSIONER. LAW ENFORCEMENT AND ANYBODY WORKING FROM PUBLIC WORKS IN THE JAIL. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE ABSOLUTELY DID. LOOK, IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT IS CLEANUP. IF IT IS CLEANUP, IF THEY ARE ALREADY GETTING THEIR MONEY, GREAT. IF NOT, AND THEY ARE PART OF THIS LIST, THEY WILL BE ADDED. SUBJECT TO THE CONFIRMATION THAT THEY ARE NOT ALREADY BEING INCLUDED, ELVA, AND FUR FURTHERMORE, IF THEY ARE NEW TO THE LIST AND OTHER PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN RECEIVING MONEY, THAT THEY PLEASE BE PAID CONSISTENCY WITH THEIR BRE BRETHREN. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I BELIEVE IN THE MEETING THAT ELVA WAS AT -- AND I BELIEVE IT WAS ELVA AND MAYBE LISA -- BUT IT WAS PUT ON -- I AM NOT SAYING THAT WE DIDN'T MAKE SOME MOTION, BUT WHAT I WAS TOLD IN THE MEETING WHY WE PUT IT ON IT WAS NOT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED AND THAT IS ALL WE ARE TRYING TO DO TODAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: I HEAR YOU, BUT THE CONFIRMATION IS NOT THEIR RECOGNITION BUT WHAT THE COURT'S MINUTES REFLECT AND WHAT COURT ADMINISTRATION HAS. WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING. BUT WE ALL NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT -- IF THEIR RECOLLECTION IS DIFFERENT, WHAT MATTERS IS WHAT THE COURTS MINUTES REFLECT AND WHAT THE AGENDA HAD. SO WE WILL GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT. I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM OF DOING THE SUBJECT TOO. IN OTHER WORDS, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THEIR THAT THE MOTION, CARA, THAT THESE FOLKS BE INCLUDED IF THEY ARE NOT ALREADY SUBJECT TO THE CONFIRMATION OF THE DATE. AND THE WHOLE PURPOSE THAT THEY RECEIVE PREMIUM PAY AT THE SAME RATE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT RECEIVING UNDER THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT PAUSE OF THEIR WORK, MAJORITY WORK IN THE JAIL. OKAY. AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. RIGHT, COMMISSIONER? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: RI RIGHT. SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AND IT KIND OF GOES WITHOUT SAYING IF YOU ALL WILL PLEASE DO THE LOOKING UP OF EVERYTHING, THANK YOU. [13. Discuss and consider payment of bills submitted by ABM for items received by the County to be installed at the Hazel Bazemore Dog Park.] NUMBER 13 IS GOING TO BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE WILL DO THE PASS. AND THEN NUMBER 14. [14. Discuss and consider the selection of an employee recruiter firm for the Medical Examiner's Office.] I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS GERMANE ANYMORE, BUT DO YOU HAVE MORE INFORMATION FOR US? THIS IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE RECRUITER FOR THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE. >> YES, JUDGE, AFTER TALKING TO JULIE, WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THIS CONTRACT. SHE IS WORKING ON THIS. >>JUDGE CANALES: CAN WE JUST SAY WE ARE GOING TO PASS THIS ITEM COMPLETELY OR TABLE INDEFINITELY. >> NO ACTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: NO ACTION. [15. Discuss and consider a one-time pay out of an equal amount for all eligible County Health District employees from the Workforce Solutions Retention Grant.] WE WILL MOVE ON. ITEM NUMBER 15 IS THAT DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE EQUAL AMOUNT PAYOUT FOR ELIGIBLE COUNTY HEALTH DISTRICT EMPLOYEES FOR THE WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS GRANT. WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE ACTUAL DOLLAR AMOUNT ON NUMBER 15. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SO MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOVED. OKAY. IT IS ALSO HERE. DO YOU HAVE THE AMOUNT HERNANDEZ HEARN SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. I JUST WANTED TO GET THE DOLLAR -- THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHATEVER THE BALANCE. EQUAL AMOUNT. >> JUDGE? >>JUDGE CANALES: YEAH. >> I THINK THE WORK FORCE GRANT WAS $900,000, I THINK. AND IT WAS LIKE $6,000 OR $7,000 SPENT FOR WHAT WAS APPROVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT WOULD BE GREAT TO GET IT ON THE RECORD. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: $250,000 WAS FOR THE RETENTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: CONTRACT TOTAL $900,000 ON ATTACH. B, DO YOU HAVE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: IT WAS IN THE OTHER SECTION. >> JUDGE, OUR CONCERN IF WE WERE ABLE TO TRANSFER THAT GRANT TO THE CITY, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: I BELIEVE THE DOCUMENT ALSO SPEAKS TO THAT >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: GIVE A PUN-TIME PAYMENT. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU CAN OWE IT TO THEM. THE COURT ACTION MAKES IT VALID TODAY SO I GUESS YOU ARE WO WONDERING HOW TO TRANSFER IT. [03:25:01] >> OUR CONCERN IS THAT THE APPROVED BUDGET WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A UPDATED ONE AND ONLY APPROVED BY THE COURT AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A REVISED APPROVAL FUND. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU ARE WAITING ON IT. >> YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM CERTAIN THAT -- OUR ACTION WILL BE VALID UNDER THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT. HOW IT IS AFFECTED, THAT IS A DIFFERENT STORY. WE ARE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE THE GRANT AND APPROVE THE EQUAL AMOUNT OF THE GRANT FOR THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE ELIGIBLE. THAT'S CORRECT? COUNTY EMPLOYEES. >> SO LEWIS WILMONT FORWARDED FOUR OPTIONS FOR US YESTERDAY AND THE OPTION THREE, $250,000 DIVIDED EQUALLY CAME OUT BY HIS CALCULATION TO $9615.38.5. 39 CENTS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THAT IS JUST ABOUT RIGHT. >>JUDGE CANALES: CAN WE USE THAT AS A REFERENCE. YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH ELVA. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT WAS MORE THAN THE LAST TIME. THE LAST TIME THE NUMBER -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: 250, COMMISSIONER. MORE THAN 250. >>JUDGE CANALES: APPARENTLY WE HAD THE BASE NUMBER INCORRECT. IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: OH. WE NOW KNOW FOR SURE -- $250,000 IN THIS GRANT. WE HAVE THAT CONFIRMED BY THE AUDITOR TO DIVIDE UP. >>JUDGE CANALES: SHE IS SAYING NOT. SUBJECT TO THE GRANT BEING BASICALLY. SHE IS WAITING BE THAT INFORMATION AS WE SPEAK. >> WE DON'T WANT A CHANCE THAT IT NOT BE APPROVED BY WORK FORCE AND WILL BE A ELIGI ELIGIBILITY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SAY AGAIN. >> WE ARE CONCERN THAT THAT HAVEN'T BEEN APPROVED. HAVEN'T BEEN BUDGETED AND APPROVED BY THE GRANTOR. WE FEEL THAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE RISK AND HAVE TO PAY THOSE MONIES BACK IF THEY WEREN'T -- >> REPRESENTED BY LEWIS THAT THEY APPROVED. JUST NOT PROVIDED THE UPDATED CHARTED. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHY DON'T WE DO SUBJECT TO. I AM HAPPY TO HAVE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY CONFIRM THAT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE? DO WE KNOW? I CAN'T GET -- DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH WE HAVE TO GIVE TO PEOPLE. >> THE EXPENDITURE $900,000 AND THE GRANT WITH ABOUT $6500 SPENT. SO ABOUT -- I CAN'T EVEN ADD RIGHT NOW. LIKE 9, 5. 895,000. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHAT? WHERE IS THE $250 COMING FROM. >> I AM NOT SURE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THIS IS TOO MUCH CONTINGENCY. THIS SOUNDS LIKE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE HAVE GOT. >>JUDGE CANALES: LOOK, WE CAN -- WE CAN BRING IT BACK. FOR STARTERS WE HAVE BEEN -- THIS GRANT IS NOT HARD TO FIGURE OUT. I MEAN, WE -- WE GOT ALL THE DOCUMENTATION HERE IN FRONT OF US. SO LET'S JUST TAKE A PAUSE WHEN WE CAN. AND GET WITH JENNY ON THIS, BUT THIS IS THE SAME GRANT THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, GUYS FOR MONTHS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS DO AN EQUAL AMOUNT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THE HEALTH DISTRICT SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO UTILIZE $250,000 FOR COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH EMPLOYEES RETENTION PAY. AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT FOR FRINGE BENEFITS. TOTAL OF $250,000 FOR INCENTIVE PAY 37. SO -- ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY ASKED FOR IS $250,000. >>JUDGE CANALES: AGAIN, WHY DON'T WE JUST GET MORE INFORMATION. WE SHOULD BE -- IT IS IN HERE. I SAW THE $900,000 AND BREAKS DOWN. SO. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THE AMOUNT WITH RESPONSE FUNDING AND CONTINUE PUBLIC HEALTH PLANNING -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I COULD BARELY HEAR HIM. >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER, WILL YOU YIELD TO LEWIS WILMONT WHO WILL EXPLAIN IT. WILL YOU RUN DOWN THE EXPLANATION. >> THE TOTAL OF 900,000 WAS APPROVED BY THE STATE. IN THAT BUDGET $250,000 WAS APPROVED BY THE STATE FOR THE RETENTION TO BE PAID OUT AS RETENTION PAY. THE MANNER IN WHICH IT IS BEING PAID OUT IS UP TO YOU. THE STATE HAS SAID ALREADY UP TO YOU GUYS TO DECIDE HOW YOU WANT TO PAY THIS OUT. THE MONEY HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED TO BE PAID OUT. [03:30:03] >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES ONLY? >> YES, SIR. SO THIS IS A GRANT THAT HAS AN EQUAL MIRROR GRANT AT THE CITY AND THE CITY HAS A RETENTION GRANT THAT HAS A DIFFERENT AMOUNT TO HANDLE ALL THE CITY EMPLOYEES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHERE IS THAT MONEY NOW? I AM SORRY. I AM SORRY. AND WHERE IS THE MONEY NOW? HAS IT BEEN DEPOSITED WITH US? OR DO WE HAVE TO ALLOCATE IT FIRST AND THEN THEY SEND IT US TO? HOW DOES THAT WORK? >> YES, THESE ARE -- THESE ARE GRANTS. WE SPEND THE MONEY AND GET REIMBURSED FROM THE STATE ON A MONTHLY BASIS BASED ON WHAT WE GIVE TO THEM ON THE EXCEL SPREADSHEET. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF WE PAY IT ALL AT ONCE, WILL THEY REIMBURSE IT ALL AT ONCE. >> I DIDN'T, THEY WILL REIMBURSE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MEANING ALL IN ONE TIME. IF WE PAY IT ALL IN ONE LUMP SUM, THEY WILL PAY US BACK IN ONE LUMP SUM. >> AS SOON AS WE REPORT TO T THEM, YES, SIR, >>JUDGE CANALES: THE 900,000, LUIS, THAT IS THE WHOLE BUDGET. THE 250 IS THE RETENTION PIECE INSIDE THE $900,000. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT EXPLAINS TO ME WHERE WE ARE. IF THAT IS CORRECT, THEN I AM SAYING -- THEN I WILL BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT A MOTION SUBJECT TO THAT BEING CONFIRMED WITH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING FROM THE STATE. IT IS SOMETHING. I AM FINE WITH THAT. IF WE KNOW WE WILL GET THAT REIMBURSED AND VERIFY THAT, I WILL BE HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION SUBJECT TO THAT VERIFICATION TO DIVIDE THAT $250,000 EQUALLY AMONG OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES. >>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT. THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR ALREADY AND THAT IS WHERE WE ARE. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WHAT DOES THAT REPRESENT, 90,639. WHAT WE NEED, LUIS, IS THE AUDITOR OFFICE WILL APPRECIATE WHATEVER DOCUMENTATION THAT YOU HAVE GOT THAT IS EXACTLY YOU ARTICULATED THAT THE STATE HAD ALREADY ACCEPTED, YOU KNOW, THAT PARTICULAR $250,000 TO BE DIVIDED EQUALLY OR WHOEVER WE SEE FIT. OKAY. I MEAN, THAT -- BECAUSE THAT IS WHY THIS GOT BROUGHT UP. >> YES, MA'AM. IT HAS BEEN APPROVED. WE CAN GIVE YOU THE APPROVED CONTRACT. JUDGE THAT IS ALL WE NEED. THE APPROVED CONTRACT. ELVA, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LACKING. A MOTION AN SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CALL THE QUESTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. [16. Discuss and consider approval of compensation to County Health District employees relative to their remaining balance after the 40 hours of unused accrued sick leave hours.] AND NOW WE HAVE GOT ITEM NUMBER 16, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH THE UNUSED ACCRUED SICK LEAVE HO HOURS. AND THIS IS ALSO APPROVING THE COMPENSATION SO THEY CAN -- SO THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE TRANSITIONING CAN GETS THE REMAINING BALANCE AFTER THE 40 HOURS THAT WAS NEGOTIATED. I BELIEVE THIS HAS A -- HAS AN AMOUNT ASSOCIATED WITH IT. 1237,000? I WILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK. HANG ON ONE SECOND. IN ANY RATE, THE DOCUMENT THAT WE -- THAT THIS COURT APPROVED DID NOT FULLY COMPENSATE THEM ON THEIR UNACCRUED SICK LEAVE HOURS. AND SO IF WE WANT TO -- IF WE WANT TO COMPENSATE THEM CORRECTLY SO THEY DON'T LOSE ANYTHING. THERE IS A COST TO THAT AND WHAT ITEM 16 IS ALL ABOUT. LET ME SEE HERE. THIS IS LISTED. $SORRY, $44,212. $38709. THAT THE RIGHT NUMBER? 38,709, IS THAT THE CORRECT AMOUNT? >> I HAD A HIGHER NUMBER BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN GIVEN AN UPDATED LIST FROM THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE YET. MY NUMBERS ARE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM GOING BY WHAT IS IN THE BOOK. I CAN HAVE THEM TAKE A LOOK AROUND IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I HAVE SOMEWHERE AROUND 90,000. MAYBE -- MAYBE THE ADDITION OF BOTH. 44,000 ON A BUN PAGE AND 38,000 ON ANOTHER. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SOMEONE SENT ME A CHART. >> I AM NOT SURE WHO COMPILED IN BUDGET SHEET, BUT THIS SOMEONE THAT I HAVE THAT OUR PAYROLL PERSON DID AND ADJUSTING THE 96 HOURS AND THE 46 HOURS OF SICK. AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE [03:35:03] 1,000. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT IS BOTH, SICK LEAVE AND WHAT ELSE? VACATION. THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. I WAS JUST USING SICK LEAVE. SO SICK LEAVE AND VACATION. >> THE VACATION HOURS UP TO 240 THAT WILL BE CARRIED BY THE CITY IS GOING TO BE ABSORBED BY UNFILLED JOB POSTS. THE COUNTY IS NOT SENDING OVER ADDITIONAL MONEY TO COMPENSATE FOR THOSE HOURS. THE ONLY AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IS THE ACCRUED SICK LEAVE ABOVE THE 40 HOURS. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S TAKE THAT. ITEM OF 16. >> THAT IS MORE LIKE THE 91. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: 91 91,848.70. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT DOES NOT REFLECT IN MY BOOK, GUYS. WHAT DO YOU HAVE ELVA. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: OFF BAD BOOK. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHERE ARE YOU GETTING -- >> A SPREADSHEET THAT WAS PROVIDED TO ME. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT DO YOU SAYS IT. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE NUMBER IS. BECAUSE THIS HERE SAYS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. SAYS -- >> OUR OFFICE HAD PUT TOGETHER A BALANCE. AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TOTAL OF $82,921 WITH THE PENDING -- ALL HOURS. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST EVERYTHING? OKAY. JULIE IS HERE. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN SHED SOME LIGHT. THE ACCURATE NUMBER FOR SIX LEAVE ONLY. >> I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER FOR THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SICK LEAVE. >>JUDGE CANALES: HOLD THE QUESTION JUST FOR A SECOND. BUT I THINK THE MOTION IS TO INDEED COMPENSATE THE COUNTY HEALTH DISTRICT EMPLOYEES RELATIVE TO THEIR REMAINING BALANCE OF UNUSED ACCRUED SICK LEAVE HOURS AND ALL I NEED IS A NUMBER. WE CAN HAVE -- TAKE NOTE OF IT AND THEN, OF COURSE, -- WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM. >> I KNOW IF WE WERE TO PAY OUT OF IT OUT $82,921 PLUS BENEFIT. SO THAT IS NOT SUBTRACTING THE 40. DON'T HAVE THAT CALCULATION HERE UNTIL WE COULD QUICKLY CALCULATE IT. BUT IT WOULD BE AT THE MOST $28,000. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, IF I CAN. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: A COUPLE OF OTHER CATEGORIES. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT. >>JUDGE CANALES: SO I GOT SOMETHING FROM ANA HAVE A LAL QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK IT IS -- VALASQUEZ. I THINK IT IS ALREADY IN OUR -- YEAH, I THINK IF YOU ADD THE 38,709 AND 34, THAT IS THE 82,000. THAT IS THE NUMBER FOR SICK LEAVE. >> TWO DEPARTMENTS. >>JUDGE CANALES: TWO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. FYI, THE TOTAL IS $82,000 APPROXIMATELY. AND THAT IS THE -- >> THE MOST IT WOULD BE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE HIGHEST. THAT IS THE MOTION I HAVE GOT ON THE FLOOR AND CALL FOR DISCUSSION. JULIE HAS SOME QUESTIONS RELATED TO THIS AS WELL AS COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. COMMISSIONER YOU CAN GO FIRST SINCE YOU ARE THE COMMISSIONER, JULIE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: VACATION AFTER -- IF THEY GET A JOB -- >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. THAT IS NUMBER 17. JENNY JUST ASKED ME TO TAKE -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT IS FINE. I DIDN'T SIGH SEPARATED IT. IS FINE. I AM FINE. GO AHEAD. THE 40 -- I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE MOTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: JULIE HAS A QUESTION. GO AHEAD, JULIE. >> I UNDERSTAND 40 HOURS ARE TO BE TRANSFERRED; HOWEVER, WHAT ABOUT EMPLOYEES THAT DON'T GET PICKED UP BY THE CITY. HOW ARE WE GOING TO HANDLE THOSE EMPLOYEES? IS IT ON? >>JUDGE CANALES: SHE SAYS THE QUESTION IS, FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT DO NOT GET -- DO NOT RECEIVE JOBS FROM THE CITY. HOW WILL WE HANDLE THAT? >> ARE WE PAYING THEM ANYWAY? >>JUDGE CANALES: WILL BE PAID OUT? THAT IS HER QUESTION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF THEY STAY WITH THE COUNTY IN SOME PURPOSE. NO, THEY WOULD JUST KEEP IT. IF THEY DECIDED NO THE TO GO WITH THE COUNTY OR THE CITY, SURE, WE WILL PAY THEM OUT AS WELL. >>JUDGE CANALES: NOT WHAT JULIE IS ASKING. CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION. >> IF WE STAYED WITH THE CO COUNTY. >>JUDGE CANALES: THEY ARE GETTING THEIR NORMAL HOURS. THE CITY DOESN'T CHOOSE TO HIRE [03:40:01] THEM. CHEST DHAES IS WHAT I SAID. IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO STAY WITH THE COUNTY, OR GET PICKED UP BY THE CITY, WE WOULD PAY THEM OUT BECAUSE -- THAT WOULD BE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A POLICY OR VOTE ON IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM ANSWERING WITH MY OPINION. THAT IS JUST MY OPINION. >> HOW WOULD WE HANDLE THE ADDITIONAL 40 MILES PER HOUR SINCE WE ARE NOT TRANSFERRING THEM. WOULD WE PAY THE ADDITIONAL 40 HOURS FOR THEM AS WELL? BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT TAKING 40 HOURS TO THE CITY, SO WITH WOULD WE PAY THEM IN FULL? >>JUDGE CANALES: WOULD YOU PAY OUT ALL SICK LEAVE IF THEY DON'T GO -- DON'T GET HIRED BY THE CITY. >> CORRECT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF -- IF THEY CHOOSE NOT -- >>JUDGE CANALES: OBVIOUSLY IF THEY DON'T WITH THE COUNTY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF THEY RETIRE OR QUIT. IF WE CAN'T FIND SOMETHING FOR THEM AT THE COUNTY. SURE, IF THEY DON'T WANT TO -- >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK THE MOTION NEEDS TO BE AMENDED THEN. THE MOTION IS GOING TO BE THAT WE COMPENSATE FOR THE REMAINING BALANCE AFTER THE ACCRUED HOURS AND THE CAVEAT AND THE -- AND IF YES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MAYBE COME BACK AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS ON HOW MANY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. MAYBE PULL THAT OUT AS A SEPARATE THING BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHO IS NOT GOING TO GET A JOB AND HOW -- I DON'T -- WE DON'T HAVE THAT CALCULATION TODAY. COULD WE JUST PEEL THOSE PEOPLE OFF AND BRING THEM BACK TO THE NEXT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE WHOLE THING IS TO GIVE THEM SECURITY. TERESA HAS A QUESTION -- NOT A QUESTION, BUT A COMMENT. TERESA. >> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. ARE THESE HOURS THE TOTAL HOURS FOR SICK LEAVE OR THE TOTAL THAT IS GREATER THAN 240 REMAINING IN SICK LEAVE. >> TOTAL HOURS. >> TOTAL HOURS. OKAY. BECAUSE I THOUGHT SHE SAID THEY WERE -- PAYING FOR THE ACCRUED HOURS BEFORE 240. >> NO. THAT IS NOT WHAT THE CONTRACT SAID. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM READING IT FROM THE AGENDA ITEM. >> DID JENNY NOT JUST STATE THAT? >> I AM SORRY. GO AHEAD, JENNY. >> THE 40 HOURS OF SICK LEAVE THAT IS GOING OVER TO THE CITY IS NOT ADDITIONAL PAYMENT OF THE COUNTIES. THAT IS BEING ABSORBED THROUGH THE OTHER BUDGED FUNDS SENT OVER. >>JUDGE CANALES: ELVA SAYS THE 80,000 COULD BE A MAXIMUM, NOT THE FLOOR. NOT HIGHER THAN 80. AND SOME OF THEM WILL BE ABSORBED. JUST DOESN'T HAVE THAT FIGURE. THE POINT IS MAKE THE MOTION TO GIVE THEM ACCRUED UNUSED SICK LEAVE AND DON'T GET HIRED BY THE CITY THEY PAY OUT THOSE HOURS AND THAT IS THE MOTION. >> OKAY, GREAT, THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AMENDED IT. >> INCLUDING THE 40 HOUR. >> I SECONDED IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS OKAY. HE SAID YES. COMMISSIONER, YOU ARE GOOD? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY. SO HANG OUT, BECAUSE WE GOT ANOTHER ONE. AND IT IS TO CONSIDER THE COMPENSATION. JUST TO WARN EVERYBODY. GIL TO 18 AND TAKE A SMALL PATH BATHROOM TIME OUT. [17. Discuss and consider compensation to County Health District employees related to unused vacation, compensatory time, and other benefits.] DISCUSS AN CONSIDER COMPENSATION OF HEALTH DISTRICT EMPLOYEES RELATED TO UN USED TIME AND BENEFITS. WE JUST DEALT WITH SICK LEAVE. NOW VACATION TIME. JULIE, DO YOU HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONS HERE? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SAME MOTION, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WANTED HER TO REPEAT THAT. THE SAME MOTION. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ELVA HAS THE DOLLARS AND CENTS. >> DOVRP TIME NEEDS TO BE PAID OUT NO MATTER WHAT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AND SECOND AND ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. ONE THINGS THAT DAWNS ON ME JENNY AND ELVA AND ALL THE THINGS WE JUST DID WERE PART OF THE BUDGET, IF YOU WILL, OF THE HEALTH DISTRICT WHICH IS PAID BY THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. WE HAVE ADDED ONE, TWO -- TWO ITEMS, OKAY, THAT NEED TO HAVE AWARENESS TO -- AND YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TELL THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT HEY, WE JUST VOTED TO MAKE YOU PAY MORE MONEY WITH THE POLICIES THAT WE HAVE JUST DONE. PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT GETS ARTICULATED BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THAT. AND THE PREMIUM PAY, THAT IS DIFFERENT. COMES FROM RESCUE PLAN ACT AS [03:45:01] WELL AS THE RETENTION GRANT THAT COMES FROM DISHES. OKAY? THAT GIVES EVERYBODY ENOUGH -- THAT IS A LOT THAT WE DID AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDER STAND THERE ARE FOUR DIFFERENT AC ACTIONS THEY TOOK REGARDING THE HEALTH DISTRICT. ALL OF WHICH IS -- WE JUST TALKED ABOUT HAVE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES R, TWO FROM THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. ONE FROM ARPA, THE ONE FROM [18. Discuss and consider approval of any accrued overtime hours pursuant to County policy for essential exempt employees during declared disasters as it relates to COVID-19, including COVID-19 related testing during Omicron surge, and/or storm preparedness and response; severe weather preparedness and response.] DSA. ALL RIGHT. THAT TAKES CARE OF 17. AND THEN -- I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY. NO ACCRUAL OF OVERTIME HOURS AT THIS TIME, ELVA? NO, NOTHING? >> I HAVE NOT. THERE ARE NONE. >>JUDGE CANALES: NO ACTION ON 18. 12:20. WE HAVEN'T TAKEN A BREAK SINCE 8:30 AND TAKE A SMALL BREAK AND THEN RON WILL COME UP WITH ITEMS AND MOVE ON TO PURCHASING AND AUDITOR, HUMAN RESOURCES AND ON TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. JUST -- THIS IS -- YOU KNOW, THIS IS -- JUST -- I WOULD SUGGEST WE DO THE LUNCH AT THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. THIS IS JUST A SMALL TEN-MINUTE LADIES ROOM BREAK. THANK YOU. THIS IS 12:21. AND WE WILL >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU GUYS, YOU NEED TO MUTE. THERE WE GO. WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK ON THE RECORD AT 12:37 P.M. AND ASK THAT JUAN START US OFF WITH [1. Discuss and consider approval of Change Order No. 3 for the Nueces County Roadway Rehabilitation Projects County Road 22 and County Road 49.] A CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 3 FOR COUNTY ROAD 22 AND 49. >> YES, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS RECOMMENDING CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 3 FOR THE REHAB OF COUNTY ROAD 22 AND COUNTY ROAD 49. THIS IS AN INCREASE IN BASE MATERIAL AND EXISTING DRIVEWAYS AND DOING REPLACEMENT OF ASPHALT ON THE DRIVEWAYS. THE TOTAL CHANGE OVER $23 $23,589.67. AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING A APPROVAL. THERE ARE MONEY STILL LEFT IN THE CONTRACT. SO THIS IS A -- I AM NOT GOING TO SAY NO COST CHANGEOVER BUT MONEY LEFT OVER TO COULD HAVE THE COST. >>JUDGE CANALES: THERE A MOTION? THERE IS A MOTION. MULTIPLE SECONDS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> IS COMMISSIONER CHESNEY H HERE? COMMISSIONER, A QUICK BRIEF ON THE PROJECT. THE CONTRACTOR IS -- CONTRACT IS SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED IN THE NEXT THREE WEEKS. [2. Discuss and consider approval of Deductive Change Order No. 3 for the Nueces County Roadway Rehabilitation Projects County Road 73, County Road 67, County Road 48 & County Road 69.] >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, ITEM NUMBER 2 IS A DEDUCTIVE CHANGE ORDER 73, 67, 48 AND 69, DR PROJECTS. >> WE ARE RECOMMENDING CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 3. FOR COUNTY ROAD 73, 67 AND 48 AND 69. AND THERE ARE SOME DELETED THAT WERE IN THE CONTRACT AND A DEDUCTION OF 7326. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. A MOTION AND A SECOND. WHO WAS THE MOTION? YEAH. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I WILL MOVE. .>JUDGE C >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL OVER IN IN FAVOR. [4. Discuss and consider the approval of Certificate of Substantial Completion for the IFB: 3136-20 Nueces County Road Rehabilitation Project CR 67, CR 69, CR 77 and Bauer Road project completed by Bay Ltd.] LET'S DO 3 IN JUST A SECOND BECAUSE TAKES MORE. DO THE LAST ONE WHICH IS CERTIFICATE NUMBER 4, CERTIFICATE OF SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION FOR 67 69, 77 AND BAUER ROAD PROJECT. >> JUDGE, REMEMBER RECOMMENDING OF THE CERTIFICATE OF SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION FOR 67, 69, 77 AND BAUER ROAD. >> REAL QUICK DISCUSSION, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AND A SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: NOTHING ABOUT THE ISSUE. I WAS ON BAUER ROAD THE OTHER DAY. IT LOOKED GOOD. I KNOW THE OTHER PROJECTS ARE GOOD PROJECTS AS WELL, BUT BAUE R WAS SPECIAL BECAUSE A COOPERATION OF THE CITY OF R ROBSTOWN. WE AUTHORIZED FUNDING TO THEM WE ARE SO BUSY WE KNOW. AND IT IS NOT LIKE -- AND TO GO FOR BOTH THE GOOD THINGS. TO FIND OUT THE THINGS IN THE COUNTY FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT SOMEHOW. EVEN IF IT IS JUST A PRESS RELEASE AND MAYBE JUST A LITTLE FLIER. SOMETHING TO GET ON WITH SOCIAL MEDIA TO PUT IT OUT THERE ON THAT ONE. AND THAT WAS SPECIAL BECAUSE THAT WAS A UAL PROJECT. WAS IN A LION'S SHARE. AND THIS PUTS SKIN IN THE GAME, [03:50:02] BECAUSE THIS IS A CITY ROAD. I MEAN DIRECT COUNTY CONNECTION WHILE WE WERE ABLE TO HELP REHAB THAT ROAD. WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS AND SOCIAL MEDIA. >> I WANT TO ASK YOU. >> THE TIRE PICKUP STARTED AT 8:00 THIS MORNING AS OF 10:00 THE LAST TIME I CHECKED. OVER 500 -- CLOSE TO 500 TIRES. AND GOING THROUGH COUNTY ROAD. AND PICKING UP TIRES WITHIN OUR RIGHT-OF-WAYS. >> I GOT SOME PHONE CALLS. >> NOT YET, COMMISSIONER, I KNOW THAT WE ARE -- WE HAVE -- EVERYBODY IS PLANNED TO TAKE DIFFERENT ROUTES. AND -- BUT WE WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE ARE CLOSE TO IT COMMISSIONER. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL TAKE AS AN EXTENSION OF TALKING OF ROADS AND TIRES ON ROADS AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE TALKING OF TIRES BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS NEXT TIME. WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THIS ALLOWANCE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THEY ARE BLOCKING THE ROADS. >>JUDGE CANALES: THERE YOU GO. [3. Discuss the ABM Energy Saving Performance contract; determine course regarding the prioritization of project allocations.] WE MADE A NEXUS SOMEHOW. DISCUSS THE A BM ENERGY SAVING PERFORMANCE CONTRACT. YOU HAVE NEW SUGGESTIONS FOR US THAT MEET THE CRITERIA GIVEN TO US BY OUR PUBLIC FINANCE ATTORNEYS AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO OVER THOSE ITEMS. >> YES, JUDGE.COUNTY ATTORNEY ON FEBRUARY 16. THE FIRST ITEM IS PRIORITY NUMBER ONE WHICH IS ADDING 11. REDOING CODE 11 AN ADDING TWO ADDITIONAL AIR HANDLING UNITS TO THE SCOPE. TO THE PROPOSED SCOPE FOR THE JAIL. THE MCKENZIE JAIL ANNEX. UPDATING REQUEST FOR PROGRAM. AND THE SECOND ITEM WILL BE TO REPLACE 81,000 WATER HEATERS. THAT IS KILOWATTS. ITEM NUMBER 7 IS TO REPLACE THE ANTICIPATED EFFICIENCY TRANSFORMERS. AND THEN NUMBER 4 IS TO REPLACE A TEN-TON AC UNITS. AND AT THE JUVENILE CENTER. ONE OF THE ITEMS TO REPLACE THE WATER HEATER WHICH IS OVER 21 YEARS OLD. THE SECOND ITEM IS THE AIR HANDLING THREE ON ROOFTOP. AND THE OTHER ITEM IS TO AT THE FAIRGROUNDS. REPLACEMENT, WINDOW REPLACEMENT AND STRUCTURAL REPLACEMENT. THIS IS DUE TO WATER INTRUSION. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THOSE ITEMS. BUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE, JUDGE, AND COMMISSIONERS IS WE HAVE DONE, LIKE A PRIORITY ITEM NUMBER ONE THE MCKENZIE JAIL ANNEX AND THE CENTER AND DEPENDING ON THE COST, IF IT IS APPROVED BY COURT AND GIVING US A NUMBER FOR THESE ITEMS. IF IT IS WITHIN THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF IT ISN'T, THEN WE WILL TAKE ITEM ONE, TWO AND THREE DEPENDING ON WHAT THOSE NUMBERS COME IN. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, SO I THINK THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO HAVE THE COURT ACCEPT THESE AS NEW PRIORITIZATIONS IN ORDER TO GET THE COST ESTIMATES HERE, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST TO BE CLEAR. REMEMBER WE HAD THE ARMORY, CALDERON AND THE TRYING TO REMEMBER. BILL BODIE. THEY ARE NO LONGER BECAUSE THEY DON'T MEET THE CRITERIA. THESE WILL MEET THE CRITERIA. WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THESE AND WE CAN MAKE THAT RIGHT NOW AND YOU WILL SEND THESE FORWARD TO ABM AND A COST ESTIMATE AND GET BACK TO PUBLIC WORKS AND SEE WHAT FITS IN THE SLOTS AND THE COURT WILL HELP MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE AND THAT CAN BE A MOTION. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, WHEN YOU SAY PRIORITY, DOES THAT MEAN THE WAY YOU LISTED IT OR NUMBER ONE INSIDE EACH OF THEM. >> THE WAY WE WOULD LIST THEM, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT THAT IS THAT THE WINDOW REPLACEMENT IS NOT UP FOR GRABS HERE. IF YOU DON'T DO THE WINDOWS, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SEAL AND FINISH THE PROJECT THAT IS ALREADY. MY ONLY CONCERN IS YOU PUT [03:55:01] SOMETHING THAT SEEMS TO BE AN ABSOLUTE MUST AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST. HELP ME EXPLAIN? >> THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN NUMBER 2 TO THAT OPTION. IN THE ORIGINAL PORTION WHAT WE WERE DOING IS THE HVAC REPLACEMENT ORIGINALLY 11 AT THE JAIL THAT WERE TO BE REFURBISHED. THOSE ARE SO BAD THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED. WE MADE THAT NUMBER ONE. WATER INTRUSION SO ABM CAN FINISH THE REST OF THEIR CONTRACT AT NUMBER TWO. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK YOU SHOULD REVISE IT. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HAS A QUESTION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, ACTUALLY I WAS JUST -- MORE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU CAN SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUST FOR DISCUSSION THAT WE WILL MAKE A MOTION TO RELE KATE THE FUNDS PREVIOUSLY USED FOR THE AMPHITHEATRE INTO THESE PROJECTS. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DID THAT EARLIER. I DID THAT MOTION A SECOND AGO. I JUST SAID THAT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: OH, OKAY. I AM SORRY I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS A MOTION. I AM LOOKING FOR A SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WILL BE THE SECOND THEN. I WILL BE YOUR SECOND. AND I THINK WHAT -- I SAID -- I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU WERE LOOKING FOR ONE. I APOLOGIZE. WHAT YOU HAD INDICATED WAS REALLOCATING THE AMPHITHEATRE FUNDS TOWARD THESE PROJECTS AND DIRECTING ABM AND THE COUNTY ENGINEER TO PROVIDE US WITH A COST ESTIMATE FOR THESE AND BRING THEM BACK TO US NEXT WEEK. WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? >> AS SOON AS -- NOT THE COUNTY ENGINEER BUT ABM NEEDS TO PROVIDE THE COST ESTIMATE AND IT BECOMES LIKE A CHANGE ORDER. OR A CHANGE ORDER ON THE WORK AUTHORIZATION AND THEY NEED TO GET US THE COST ESTIMATES. AND THEN PUBLIC WORKS WILL REVIEW THOSE WITH LAN AND FIGURE OUT WHAT TO AFFORD AND CHOOSE AGAIN ESSENTIALLY. >> WE WILL TRY TO SET THAT FOR THE 16TH. >> HE WILL TRY FOR THE 16TH IF YOU CAN'T HEAR. OKAY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: OKAY. THAT IS GREAT. THIS WOULD BE A MOTION TO REALLOCATE DEPENDING ON WHAT WE GET BACK ON THE COST, CORRECT? >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S CORRECT. AGAIN, WE HAVE ALREADY DONE IT. THOSE ITEMS THAT WE CHOSE, I JUST MENTIONED BILL BODIE, THE ARMORY AND CALDERON WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE DID NOT MEET THE CRITERIA THAT PUBLIC FINANCE COUNCIL -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: REALLOCATE THESE FUNDS TO THESE PROJECTS. >>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT, WE HAVE ALREADY DONE THE PRIORITIZATION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YOUR CLARIFIED WHAT YOU DID. I WANTED TO CLARIFY MY SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: 16, GUYS AND MAKE SOME NUMBERS TO GET GOOD DECISIONS. AND INTERESTINGLY, THESE DOES IT SEEM TO YOU. BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME TO ACCOMPLISH THIS. HOW DO YOU FEEL OF THE MECHANICAL NATURE OF IT. WATER HEATERS, AIR HANDLERS AND WINDOWS AS BEING. HOW ARE YOU FEELING OF THESE PROJECTS ON SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION AND TIME. DOES IT. IS IT GOOD FOR WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY ENGAGED IN? >> LEAD TIME ISSUES COMING INTO PLAY FORGOER FOR HVAC ITEMS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: HOW ABOUT WATER HEATERS. THE. >> THAT WILL BE THE SAME. JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING. WINDOWS IS ANOTHER WIN. A LITTLE BIT OF A LEAD TIME ISSUE WITH. >>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT. >> BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE -- WE ALREADY KNOW ON PRICING WISE THAT THEY HAVE GOT A LOT OF THE NUMBERS ALREADY FOR A COUPLE OF ITEMS, THEY WILL HAVE TO WORK ON THEM QUICKLY AND WORK ON THE OTHER TWO. >> JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, TO GIVE US A TIMELINE. THIS GETS APPROVED OF WHEN THEY ARE EXPECTING THEIR COMMAND AND ALSO THE CONSTRUCTION TO BE COMPLETED. >> THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS SAYING. I AM CONCERNED -- I ASKED WHETHER OR NOT THIS WAS SUBJECT TO SUPPLY CHAIN CONCERNS. THE ANSWER IS YES. AND WE WILL ASK, BUT THEY WILL BE AT THE MERCY OF WHOEVER IT IS THAT DELIVERS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IN THAT CASE, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FOR SHANE OR JUAN AT THIS TIME? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. ALSO -- >> THANK YOU, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUAN, IF THESE ARE THE PROJECTS, DO A THIRD-PARTY ANALYSIS TO ADD TO THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT TO GET GUARANTEED SAVINGS. >> PROBABLY WILL BE JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO. CAN YOU ALERT THEM AND LET THEM KNOW BECAUSE THIS -- RIGHT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE DOLLAR [04:00:08] AMOUNT -- >> JUDGE, WE NEED TO GO BACK TO 3 BEFORE -- THE NEXT ONE. MISSING THE BOAT ON THAT ONE. AND A MOTION AND A SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ITEM NUMBER 4 CERTIFICATE OF SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION. [1. Discuss, consider and approve the latest changes to Section 4.4(c) of the previously approved agreement with Spectra Venue Management for RFP 3159-21 Nueces County Richard M. Borchard Regional Fairgrounds Management Services.] ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. MICHAEL, SPECTRA VENUE MANAGEMENT. AND WE ARE ACTUALLY -- YOU CAN PRESENT, BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO PULL THIS ONE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE PROVISION THAT WAS CHANGED. IF YOU WANT TO SET THE TABLE FOR IT. >> I WILL INDICATE ON FEBRUARY 2, OPTION 1 AGREEMENT WHICH IS THE FIVE-YEAR INITIAL TERM AND TWO AVAILABLE ONE-YEAR RENEWALS WITH SPECTRA VENUE MANAGEMENT AND SUBJECT TO THE REVIEW OF COUNTY ATTORNEY FROM SECTION 4.4 C WHICH IS THE USE BY THE COUNTY AND SPECIFICALLY THE LONG-TERM USE SECTION. AFTER REVIEW BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THERE WAS SOME LANGUAGE THAT WAS ADDED AND WE FELT THAT LANGUAGE WOULD BE BETTER BROUGHT BACK TO COURT SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT WAS BEING ADDED. NEGOTIATE ALLEY WE CONSIDERED A VERY WORD CHANGE BUT BECAUSE THE SENATE WAS ADDED WANTED TO GIVE THE COURT AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT. THAT LANGUAGE WAS APPROVED BY SPECTRA AND THEY WERE OKAY WITH THIS ON THEIR END. THE LANGUAGE IN 4.43, THE DURATION OF SUCH LONG-TERM USE OF THE FACILITIES OR ANY PART THEREOF COUNTY FOR NONCOMMERCIAL PUBLIC AND EMERGENCY AND DISASTER RESPONSE UNDER THIS SUBSECTIONS SHALL NOT EXCEED 60 DAYS WITHOUT PRIOR APPROVAL AND AUTHORIZATION OF THE MAJORITY OF THE NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT MEMBERS. SO THAT IS THE ITEM THAT Y'ALL ARE ASKING. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ASK THAT. >> WE CAN COME BACK TODAY. AND WILL PULL THAT INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO TALK ABOUT A LEGAL CONCERN OR LEGAL QUESTION WE HAVE ON THAT THAT PARTICULAR NEW LANGUAGE IN CONTRA STRICTION TO TEXAS LAW AND I NEED TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THAT WITH YOU GUYS AND BRING THAT MOTION WHEN WE COME BACK ON THE RECORD AFTER THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WILL MAKE MY MOTION NOW. IF THERE IS A SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS FINE. NO PROBLEM BUT WE NEED TO BRING IT BACK. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AN WE WILL BRING IT BACK ON THE RECORD. SEEMS LIKE YOU WOULD WANT TO AT LEAST HEAR THE LEGAL DISCUSSION BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOTION AND SECOND, BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT LEGAL DISCUSSION NOW. I DON'T THINK THAT IS -- TO ME, THAT IS NOT AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE THING, BUT JUST A DISCUSSION FOR ANYBODY TO HEAR. I AM HAPPY TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND ASK THE LEGAL QUESTION -- >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM HAPPY TO HAVE IT BEFORE AND AFTER. WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AFTER I TALK TO JENNY BECAUSE SHE SAID THAT SHE HAS A LAWYER THAT LOOKED AT THAT ISSUE AND DISCUSSED THAT ISSUE WITH YOU, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE AN ISSUE TO DISCUSS THAT WITH MY LAWYER -- WITH THE LAWYER FOR THE COUNTY IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THEN I WILL BE HAPPY TO HAVE A BRIEFING OF WHY I BELIEVE THAT IS CONTRARY TO [2. Discuss and award RFP No. 3185-21 Engineering Services for Program Management.] TEXAS LAW LET'S HAVE THE FIRST PIECE BEFORE THE SECOND. THE ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR PROGRAM MANAGEMENT. WE HAD A COMMITTEE MEETING. AND YOU GOT A RECOMMENDATION. >> I AM GOING TO PASS OUT THE RECOMMENDATION -- THE SCORING SHEETS AND I WILL DISCUSS THE RECOMMENDATION. >>JUDGE CANALES: SOUNDS GOOD. >> OKAY, ON THIS ITEM, WE INDICATED THAT THE COUNTY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO AWARD THIS -- OR TO SELECT EITHER ONE OR MULTIPLE LICENSE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING FIRMS. AND THE COMMITTEE OR REVIEWED -- WE RECEIVED FIVE SUBMITTALS. AND AFTER THE SCORING WAS COMPLETED, YOU SEE BEFORE YOU, WE ARE RECOMMENDING TWO AWARDS -- TWO SELECTIONS ON THIS ONE. [04:05:03] FIRST IS FRISA NICHOLS,INC. AND SECOND ONE G OVEN D DEVELOPMENT LLC. AND THERE WAS A THIRD CONSIDERATION. BUT WE WANTED TO JUST NOTE FOR THE COURT THAT LAN HAS A CURRENT CONTRACT TO THE COUNTY OUT TO 2025, SO THERE WAS NO NEED TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL AWARD ON THIS PARTICULAR CSP. THEY STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECEIVE FUTURE WORK ON THAT AGREEMENT THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE IN PLACE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A WHILE BACK AND ALSO ABOUT GIVING A GROUP OF FOUR OR FIVE AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A WHOLE GROUP BEING SELECTED PUBLIC WORKS WITH INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS AND EVERYBODY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY ROTATE. WHATEVER EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO, I DON'T CARE, BUT I THINK THAT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO PUT ALL FOUR OR FIVE OF THEM INTO THE POOL. SO THAT I WILL MAKE THAT INTO A MOTION. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE PURPOSE OF PROGRAM MANAGEMENT TO MANAGE MORE THAN ONE PROJECTS. ALL ARE ELIGIBLE FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND WILL HAVE TO BE SELECTED BY PUBLIC WORKS. BUT PROGRAM MANAGEMENT IS DIFFERENT. I DON'T THINK YOU WILL BE WANTING TO RUN FIVE -- FIRST OF ALL, FIVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SOFTWARE OR -- I MEAN, THERE IS A METHOD TO THE REASON WE SELECTED TWO. AND FELT THAT -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ARE WE IN DISCUSSION. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE ARE IN DISCUSSION. I AM SAYING TO YOU THAT -- I THINK IT IS A MISTAKE TO HAVE FIVE PROGRAM MANAGERS. THE WHOLE PURPOSE THAT YOU ARE RUNNING A PROGRAM. IF THERE WERE FIVE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS, YOU MIGHT SAY, OKAY. BUT THERE IS ONLY ONE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. WE ALREADY HAVE THREE. AND I DON'T SEE -- REMEMBER WHEN YOU ARE PROGRAM MANAGER YOU CAN'T BID ON THE -- ON THE -- ON THE PROJECT ITSELF. THE ONES THAT WE HAVE SELECTED HAVE RECEIVED THE HIGH QUALIFICATIONS ON THE RECOMMENDATION. I THINK THAT, AGAIN, IT IS A DISCONNECT BETWEEN WHAT IT IS THAT THESE GUYS ARE DOING. THEY ARE PROGRAMMING MANAGING MEANING THEY WILL MANAGE MORE THAN ONE PROJECT AT A TIME FOR THE COUNTY THEY WILL BE THE PROJECT ENGINEER FOR WRITING THE RFPST AND ADMINISTERING THE OVERSIGHT OF THE PROJECT TO GET THE BENEFIT OF THE BARGAIN. I DON'T SEE -- I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD WANT MORE THAN WHAT YOU HAVE. AND I AM NOT CERTAIN THAT ALL OF THEM MET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMITTEE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I MEAN, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A POOL. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY. I AM NOT JUST SELECTING ONE. BUT HAVE A POOL. >>JUDGE CANALES: NOW WE HAVE THREE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE ARE GOING TO HAVE FOUR -- FOUR OR FIVE. IT DONE MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO ME. I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE FIVE OR FOUR. IT LANDS OUT BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY DOING THE PROJECT AND FOUR. AND THAT IS MY MOTION TO KEEP ALL FOUR OF THEM AND BE SELECTED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEER AND DIFFERENT PRO PROJECTS. THE CIP IS A LOT OF PROJECTS AND THE CIP. YOU CAN SHARE. THIS IS -- THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO START SHARING WITH MORE THAN ONE OR MORE THAN TWO. YOU KNOW AGENCIES. TO START DOING SOME OF THE PROJECTS AND GET THEM OUT OF THE WAY. SO -- THAT IS MY RECOMM RECOMMENDATION. >> CAN I ADD COMMENTARY. >> LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING BEFORE WE GO. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT FIVE. WHY EVEN TWO. WHY NOT JUST ONE? >> WE HAVE ONE ALREADY WHICH IS LAN. AND THEN THE COURT INDICATED THERE WE SOME PROJECTS NOT COMPLETED YET AS PART OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. I THINK TEN OF THEM AND THEN WE WERE INDICATED COURT TO SEEK ADDITIONAL PROGRAM MANAGERS TO POSSIBLY VY FOR THAT PROJECT MANAGEMENT WORK ON THOSE TEN REMAINING PROJECTS. AND SO -- >> BUT OVERALL THE BENEFIT IS THAT YOU WANT TO KEEP IT A MANAGEABLE NUMBER OF FIRMS. BUT YOU -- YOU HAVE MORE WORK THAN ONE FIRM CAN HANDLE, KIND OF WHAT IT IS? OR JUST TRYING TO INCREASE MORE BECAUSE I DON'T -- I DON'T THINK I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION FOR USING ALL FIVE ON A ROTATION, BUT I AM -- I AM ALSO [04:10:04] WONDERING WHY TWO? WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. WHY NOT ADD THEY MORE THEN? >> MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE COURT TO OFFER OTHER COMPANIES WITH A CHANCE FOR THIS PROGRAM MANAGEMENT WORK. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW LAN IS OUR DESIGNATED PROGRAM MANAGER. ON THE WORK A ITIZATION AND AUTHORIZATIONS COME BACK TO THE COURT ON WHICH PROJECTS YOU WANT TO. AND YOU APPROVED THE BULK OF MONEY SPENT AND ONLY HAVE I GUESS TEN PROJECTS. MY UNDERSTANDING THAT JUAN WILL WORK WITH THE TWO WE ARE RECOMMENDING AND DIVVY UP THE TEN PROJECTS THAT WERE RE REMAINING. THERE IS NOT A NEED NECESSARILY FOR FUTURE WORK UNLESS YOU GUYS RECEIVE -- YOU GUYS, THE COUNTY RECEIVES ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR A LARGE SET OF PROJECTS SO THE COMMITTEE FELT THAT TWO WOULD BE MORE THAN SUFFICIENT TO COVER THOSE TEN REMAINING PROJECTS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU SAID TEN REMAINING PROJECTS? >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S CORRECT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHICH ARE THE TEN REMAINING PROJECTS. >> I WILL HAVE TO DEFER TO LAN OR JUAN. I AM NOT SURE IF THE REMAINING PROJECTS ARE FUNDED. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: TALKING 2021. >> THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHY HAVE WE NOT BEEN USING THE FUNS -- >> I AM NOT IN CHARGE OF THOSE FUNDS BEING USED OR NOT USED. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THAT A PROBLEM THAT I HAVE. THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN 2019 PROGRAM MANAGERS AND 2021. YOU KNOW, AND WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE VERY BEGINNING AND NEW MONIES WE NEED TO APPROVE. AND WHATEVER PROJECT ON 2015, AND WILL GET 10. SO SOMEWHERE WE HAVE BEEN USING THE PROJECTS AND GETTING RID OF THEM BY USING THE 2019 PROGRAM MANAGERS WHICH -- SHOULD REALLY -- SHOULD HAVE COME TO US TO MAKE A DECISION OF WHAT -- WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO USE IT FOR. USE IT AND WHY. AND WHY NOT A NEW ONE. I DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS SAYING HERE. I WANT TO OPEN A DOOR TO OTHER PEOPLE. SO -- YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CONTINUE TO LOCK OURSELVES IN TO 1. AND I DON'T THINK IT IS RIGHT FOR OUR LOCAL PEOPLE. I DON'T THINK IT IS RIGHTS TO -- THAT WE ONLY GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ONE OR TWO WHEN WE CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIVE OR FOUR. BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT. PRECINCTS AND NO ONE WANTS TO OPEN THE DOOR TO ANOTHER ONE IN THE COMMITTEE. WE FINE OURSELVES GOING FOR THE SAME PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. I DON'T THINK IT IS RIGHTS. >>JUDGE CANALES: PROGRAM MANAGEMENT FROM ALL JURISDICTIONS IN TEXAS. YOU SEE IT IN BONDS. IF YOU HAVE A SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT ISSUE $200 MILLION WORTH OF BONDS TWO PROGRAM TO DIVVY UP THE PROGRAM OF 100 MILLION IN ONE TRANCH AND 100 MILLION IN ANOTHER AND BUILD TEN NEW SCHOOLS. THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF PROGRAM MANAGEMENT IS TO CREATE EFFICIENCY AND NOT BUREAUCRACY. FIVE WORKING FIVE DIFFERENT CAMPAIGNS IN THE COUNTY, THERE WON'T BE ENOUGH HOURS IN THE DAY LITERALLY FOR THE MEETINGS THAT TAKE PLACE. THE WHOLE CONCEPT YOU ARE TRYING TO PUT A GROUP OF PROJECTS TOGETHER SO THAT PROGRAM MANAGEMENT IS EFFE EFFECTIVE. WHAT YOU ARE DOING HERE IS SAYING YOU WANT TO HAVE PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND SPREAD THE WEALTH. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. BUT PROJECT MANAGEMENT CAN EXIST, NO PROBLEM. AND ALSO, ALL THESE COMPANIES HAVE A RIGHT TO VY FOR ALL OF THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE. ALL OF THESE COMPANIES HAVE ACTIVE WORTH WITH US RIGHT NOW ON ROADS. ON COMMUNITY CENTER. A VARIETY OF WORK HERE. THE ISSUE IS UNDERSTANDING WHAT PROGRAM MANAGEMENT IS MEANT TO DO. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER, BUT YOUR -- IT'S A NOT -- I THINK WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IS -- HAPPENS IN AN RFP AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT. IN PROGRAM MANAGEMENT, THE WHOLE CONCEPT TO MAKE SURE OFF [04:15:03] FEW TEAMS MANAGING A BUNCH OF STUFF SO EFFICIENCIES WORK. MEETINGS THAT TAKE PLACE WITHIN PROGRAM MANAGEMENT CONSTANTLY. IF YOU GIVE PUBLIC WORKS FIVE DIFFERENT TEAMS TO WORK WITH, YOU HAVE ELIMINATED THE EFFICIENCIES OF A PROGRAM MAJOR. A PROJECT MANAGER, THEY ARE ALL CAPABLE AND ALL CAN DO THE WORK. BUT A PROGRAM MANAGER IS SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AND NEVER BEEN ABLE TO HAVE THAT CONNECTION TO UNDER STAND WHAT IT IS THAT THEY ARE DOING IN THE SERVICES THEY ARE PROVIDING. THE BOTTOM LINE WE HAVE AN ENGINEERING STAFF OF TWO ONE OF WHICH IS A DIRECTOR AND SUPERVISING EVERYBODY FROM MOSQUITOS TO ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL. THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT IS TO ALLOW THOSE FIRMS TO PROVIDE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT DIVERSE ENGINEERING BACKGROUNDS TO HELP MANAGE A BIG PROGRAM. WHAT IS A PROGRAM? MORE THAN ONE PROJECT. FOSHLTION, HERE IN THE CO COURTSHOUSE. WE HAVE GOT THREE MAJOR PROJECTS GOING ON. PERFECT JOB FOR PROGRAM MANAGEMENT. SO I -- I WISH THAT WE WOULD STICK TO THE RECOMMENDATION AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK, THEN IT DOESN'T WORK, YOU CAN ALWAYS ADD MORE. THE FLEXIBILITY THAT THE COMMITTEE GAVE WAS TO DO THE UNTHINKABLE WHICH IS TO GIVE MORE THAN ONE AND THAT IS TO ALLOW FOR WHAT IS SAYING TO ALLOW FOR DIVERSIFICATION. IF YOU DO FIVE, YOU LITERALLY RUINED THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF PROGRAM MANAGEMENT. BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE DIFFERENT STYLES OF PROGRAMMERS. WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IS ACHIEVABLE IN OTHER WAYS BUT A PROGRAM MANAGEMENT IS A VERY SPECIFIC -- VERY SPECIFIC DUTY AND WSP HOOKED UP WITH GOVIN. G OVIN IS/WSP AND FRESEN NICHOLS AND MANAGED HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AT A TIME AT MINIMUM. THEY HANDLED EVEN BIGGER BOND PROJECTS. ANYWAY, I WISH YOU WOULD RECONSIDER BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT IS GOING TO BE HELPFUL TO JUAN AND MORE ONEROUS FOR HIM TO HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT PROGRAM MANAGERS. YOU CAN HAVE AS MANY PROJECT MANAGERS AS YOU WANT AND MANY FIRMS DOING THE WORK, BUT A PROGRAM MANAGER IS SOMEBODY VERY SPECIFIC AND DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF WHAT OUR INTENTION WERE. >> MY UNDERSTANDING ON PROGRAM MANAGEMENT, THEY ARE OVERSEEING MULTIPLE PROJECTS AND WITHIN EACH PROJECT JUAN OR THE COURT WORKING WITH JUAN CAN SELECT WHO THE SPECIFIC ENGINEERS ARE ON THIS PROJECT LIKE WHO WE ARE DEALING WITH. MULTIPLE ENGINEERS AND IF DEEMED NECESSARY TO HAVE A PROGRAM MANAGER TO OVERSEE A CERTAIN PROJECT, THEY CAN BID ON THAT. A LOT OF WORK TO STILL BE DI DIVVIED OUT UNDER -- WHAT THE JUDGE IS SAYING IS TRUE. I SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON LAN ON EVERY BID WE PUT OUT. EVERY ONE OF THESE PEOPLE THAT YOU GUYS APPROVE IS ANOTHER EMPLOYEE I AM GOING TO MANAGE AND TEACH HOW TO -- HOW TO WRITE A BID, LEARN A NEW SOFTWARE BECAUSE EACH ONE WILL HAVE THEIR OWN SOFTWARE OF HOW THEY PUBLISH BID AND DIFFERENT MANNERS WHERE -- EITHER THEY WILL USE WHAT I HAVE AND PROMOTE WHAT THEY HAVE. SO TO ME, I WOULD RATHER HAVE FEWER OF THOSE THEN FIVE BR BRAND-NEW ONES TO LEARN. EVERY TIME YOU HIRE ONE OF THESE ANOTHER -- AND MANAGE FIVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE INSIDE THERE, BECAUSE DIFFERENT PROJECTS GOING AT THE SAME T TIME. AND THEY ARE A LARGE COMPANY AND HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT THEY ASSIGN TO OTHER PROJECTS TO GET MORE THINGS DONE AT THE SAME TIME. AND SO, WE ALREADY HAVE FIVE. AND ADDITIONAL FOLKS TO HAVE TO WORK WITH. I THINK THE COMMITTEE DID A GOOD JOB AT REVIEWING AND TRYING TO HAVE WHAT THE COURT ASKED US TO DO IS TO GIVE US TWO MORE OPTIONS AND GIVES YOU THREE ALL TOGETHER WITH LAN ALREADY ON BOARD AND FREEZE AND GOVID AND WLAN COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE RE REMAINING TEN PROJECTS AND LIKELY ALL GO TO SOME COMBINATION OF FREEZE AND GOVIN. AS THE PROGRAM MANAGER. AND ONCE THOSE PROJECTS ARE IDENTIFIED, THEN WLAN COME BACK TO YOU AND RECOMMEND AN ENGINEER IF DRAWINGS AND SPECSS NEED TO BE MADE ON PARTICULAR [04:20:02] PROJECTS AND IF WE NEED TO B BIDS. WE WON'T BID IT OUT. WE WILL RFQ BECAUSE WE CAN'T BID PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. WE CAN HIRE AN ENGINEER OR RFQ. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: JUDGE, CAN WE CALL THE QUE QUESTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES. THE ONLY CAVEAT HERE IS THAT WE ALSO MENTIONED IN THE COMMITTEE THAT IT IS REALLY THREE THAT WE HAVE, NOT TWO FORTUNATE. ALREADY. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. NO. MOTION CARRIES. SO I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR FREEZE AND NICHOLS AND GOVIN DEVELOPMENT LLC WITH THE CAVEAT WE WILL ALSO HAVE SOMEONE ON RETAINER. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. GIVE ME A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AND OPPOSED SAME SIGN. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MOTION PASSED. I WILL MOVE ON, MICHAEL. [1. Approve Budget Change Order No. 08 for Fiscal Year 2021-2022.] TO APPROVE -- SORRY, THIS IS TO ELVA, ALL AUDITOR STUFF. NUMBER 8 ON A BUDGET CHANGE ORDER ON D 1. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. WE PRESENT THIS BUDGET CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 8 FOR FISCAL Y YEAR. OUR OFFICE MOVING FROM REGULAR SALARY TO TEMP TO COVER OUR TEMP PERSON THAT IS PROCESSING AND REVIEWING ALL DIFFERENT L LOGS FOR COVID. ANOTHER ONE TO NOTE IS TITLE COURT MOVING SALARIES FOR TEMPS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A VACANCY IN THEIR DEPARTMENT. AND THE OTHER ONE IS ROUTINE. WE ASK FOR WHY YOU ARE APP APPROVAL. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL IN FAVOR [2. Approve Capital Project Budget Change Order No. 106.] SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. HOW ABOUT TAKE US THROUGH THE CAPITAL BUDGET NUMBER 106. >> CAPITAL BUDGET CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 6, THE FIRST ITEM IS MOVING CAPITAL PROJECTS WITHIN THE 2015 CO. IT IS TAKING MONEY FROM THE BASIL SPORTS COMPLEX TO THE PROJECT OF LONE OAK PARK MATCH OF 75,000. AND NOW ANOTHER $15,895 TO THE FIESTA RAMP DRAINAGE. CAPITAL PROJECT FOR CO 2016 IS MOVING MONEY FROM THE COMMISSIONER PRECINCT 3 TO FIESTA RANCH DRAINAGE 15,895. THEN WE ARE MOVING MONEY FROM A PROJECT FOR THE COUNTY ROAD 43 IMPROVE DEVELOPER OF 25,000 TO CR COUNTY ROAD 22 FOR $13,250 AND THEN 11,750 FOR COUNTY ROAD 49. ALSO THE NEXT ITEM 2021 CO CAPITAL PROJECTS, MOVINGED 92,632 FROM UNALLOCATED TO THE PROJECT FOR CALDERON BUILDING INTERIOR IMPROVEMENT HEALTH CLINIC, 92,632. REQUEST FOR YOUR APPROVAL. >>JUDGE CANALES: DO WE HAVE -- WAS THERE A MOTION FIRST ON THE PROJECT CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 1 106? A MOTION TO APPROVE? >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: SO MO MOVED. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL TAKE CHESNEY'S AS A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION AT ALL? OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 3 IS [3. Discuss and consider approval of payments received from the City/County Public Health District invoiced from October 2021 through February 2022.] APPROVAL FOR PAYMENTS INVOICE FROM OCTOBER 2021 TO FEBRUARY 2022. ITEM NUMBER 3. >> THESE ARE -- WE PUT THIS ON YOUR AGENDA. THESE ARE INVOICES RECEIVED FROM THE CITY-COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOR OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, I THINK. WE REQUEST PERMISSION TO PAY THESE INVOICES AND IT IS A TOTAL OF -- IT'S 34,949.41 FROM [04:25:03] DEPARTMENT 3091. AND ANOTHER 6,618 FROM THE 1115 WAIVER. WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO PAY THESE INVOICES TO THE CITY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUST A QUESTION. ANYTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY OR NORMALLY BUDGETED EXPENSES. >> THERE WAS ONE ITEM UNBADGED AND IT WAS $6778 FOR DR. KIM -- >>JUDGE CANALES: ONEFREC. >> SORRY, I APOLOGIZE. THAT IS THE ONLY THING UNB UNBUDGETED. AND THIS IS FUNDED BY THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MOVE PASSAGE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SECOND. >> THANK YOU. JUDGE >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHT, MOTION AND SECOND. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. [4. Discuss and consider Cost Submittal and Ineligible Expense Summary Report for FEMA-PA4586 Winter Weather URI.] SAME SIGN. OKAY. AND THEN YOU HAVE NUMBER 4, WHICH WE KIND OF WENT OVER ALREADY. BUT IT IS THE COST SUBMITTAL SUPPORT FOR FEMA, WHICH IS 456 WINTER WEATHER URI. >> BUDGET IN THESE DEPARTMENTS FOR LAST FISCAL YEAR FOR THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS. SO WE ARE REQUESTING THAT. AND I KNOW THAT PURCHASING BOUGHT SOME ITEMS UNDER -- UNDER 1270 UNDER THEIR DEPARTMENT FOR LIKE 12 GEN GENERATORS AND ONE OF MY REQUEST TO PUT THAT INTO INVENTORY TO MONITOR THOSE ITEMS. >> THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE WHEN WE USE THEM AT FUTURE DISASTER, THEN THEY -- >> YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION TO DO THAT FIRST, BUT MICHAEL WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT. BUT I LIKE THAT, MICHAEL, UNLESS YOU HAVE AN OBJECTION TO INVENTORY ON THAT ONE. >> THESE ITEMS DO NOT FIT THE CATEGORY OF INVENTORY. THEY ARE BELOW THE THRESHOLD. AND IN ADDITION, WE WERE ADVISED BY HAGERTY THAT WHEN WE MAKE EXPENSES FOR DISASTERS THAT WE HAVE TO EXPENSE THAT FULL ITEM. WE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO INVENTORY ALL THE ITEMS AND ISSUE THEM OUT AS USED AND PROVIDE TRACING BY DEPARTMENT ON THE PARTICULAR DAYS WHEN WE ASK FOR MASK OR HAND SANITIZERS. WE WENT TO MAKE THE CLAIMS, WE WERE QUESTIONED ON THE VALIDITY OF OUR INTERNAL CHARGES AND HAD TO GO BACK AND TRACE IT TO THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE. AND FOR THEM IT WAS CLEANER TO HAVE AN ORIGINAL PURCHASE AND A DISTRIBUTION AT ONE -- AS ONE TRANSACTION I AM NOT OPPOSED MAKING A NOTATION THAT PURCHASING WILL HOUSE THESE ITEMS AND WE WILL DISPENSE THEM AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. AND WHEN WE DO, WE WILL HAVE TO SUBMITTED A CLAIM AND SO THE DOCUMENTATION WILL INCLUDE THE ORIGINAL PURCHASE FOR WHAT THE ACTIVITY WAS THAT IT WAS CALLED TO BE USED FOR IN THE EVENT OF THE DISASTER. SO THE DOCUMENTATION WILL STILL BE THERE WHEN IT COMES TIME TO HAND THEM OUT. IT IS JUST THAT IT IS NOT GOING TO FIT LIKE IN THE INVENTORY. >>JUDGE CANALES: CATEGORY. >> YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: MAYBE THE MOTION NEEDS TO BE AND WE COULD LIST THEM. >> EX-FENCE IT -- >>JUDGE CANALES: EXPENSE IT ACCORDING TO DEPARTMENT. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO EXPENSE IT ACCORDING TO DEPARTMENT. >> RIGHT. THE LAST ONE IS HAGERTY. >>JUDGE CANALES: SORRY, LET ME GET A SECOND. IS THAT A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THAT TAKES CARE OF THOSE. >> LAST ONE FOR HAGERTY CONSULTING, THE AMOUNT $ $114,560. AND WE ARE REQUESTING FUNDING FROM THE GENERAL FUND. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. ALL RIGHT, IS THERE A MOTION TO DO THIS? OKAY. WE HAVE TO PAY THE BILL, SO I AM GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION TO MAKE THIS CHANGE -- YOU SAID A TRANSFER. HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: FOR THE SAKE OF DISCUSSION. >>JUDGE CANALES: GO AHEAD. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I WANT TO LISTEN. >> TO THE GENERAL FUND. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOVES FROM THE DISASTER FUND WHATEVER NUMBER -- THE NUMBER I JUST READ. AND IT GOES FROM THERE -- 4586. LET ME DOUBLE CHECK I FORGET WHAT DEPARTMENT. [04:30:03] IT WAS STUCK IN 4 586. THE WINTER STORM YURI AND RECODE TO G F. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU JUST THREW ME OFF. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ALL THIS TIME ABOUT THE NUMBER THAT GOES IN THE SPECIAL REVENUE NUMBER WE CREATED. BUT THEN YOU SAY A NUMBER FOR THE GENERAL FUND THAT WE PUT IT FROM FOR SPECIAL REVENUES. YOU ARE TALKING OF A ANOTHER NUMBER? >> I DID SAY LATE THEIR WE DO NOT TRANSFER -- WE TRANSFER -- I MISSTATED. WE TRANSFER THE EXPENSE OVER TO THE GENERAL FUND WHEN IT DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR REIMBURSEMENT. THAT IS BASICALLY IT. NOW TO THE SPECIAL REVENUE. IF IT IS AN ALLOWABLE. WE EXPENSE IT TO THE GENERAL FUND. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: PAYING OF THE BILLS THAT I WAS QUESTIONING EARLIER, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN PAID. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT IS ALREADY PAID AND TO CODE IT CORRECTLY AND NOT STAYED IN A DISASTER FUND THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE RIGHT CODING. IT NEEDS TO GO FROM THERE TO THE GENERAL FUND. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: EVEN THOUGH THERE WASN'T A BUDGETED ITEM, IT WAS PAID. >>JUDGE CANALES: THIS COURT APPROVED CONTRACTS. WHEN THERE ARE CONTRACTS, THE SPECIFIC OF THE CONTRACT IS TO PAY PEOPLE FOR THE WORK. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF IT IS ELIGIBLE. IF IT WAS REIMBURSABLE AND ELIGIBLE BECAUSE I AM NOT CONVINCED THESE ARE ELIGIBLE THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN KNOWN THAT THEY WERE NOT ELIGIBLE. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT SOME MORE IF YOU WOULD LIKE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T NEED TO DO IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE HAVE TOO MANY NUMBERS TO TAKE FROM PETER TO PAY PAUL AND SOMETIMES FORGET TO PUT IT BACK IN PETER. THAT IS WHAT I AM AFRAID OF. TO TAKE FROM ONE AREA TO ANOTHER AREA. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WOULD RATHER TABLE THIS WHOLE ITEM TO TALK TO DALE SINCE HE HAS MORE INFORMATION. >> WE NEED TO GET IT BOOKED. COULD WE HAVE -- WE HAVE AUDITORS COMING IN AND WE NEED TO BOOK THESE EXPENSES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF THE AUDITOR IS COMING IN, WE NEED TO CHANGE IT -- >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS AN APPROPRIATE COMMENT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: A QUESTION, JUDGE. >> OUR INTERNAL -- EXTERNAL AUDITORS COMING NEXT WEEK. WE WANT TO APPROPRIATELY BOOK THESE EXPENSES IN A PROPER -- >>JUDGE CANALES: THE NORMAL AUDIT FOR THE COUNTY. WE AUDIT OUR BOOKS EVERY YEAR AND THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING AND IT NEEDS TO BE BOOKED PROPERLY BECAUSE WE ALREADY PAID THE AMOUNT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: A QUESTION BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. AND THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO PAY IT UNTIL IT IS CLEAR. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT HAS ALREADY BEEN PAID. IT IS ALREADY PAID. IT IS ABOUT BOOKING IT CORRECTLY SO YOUR BOOKS WILL ACCURATELY REFLECK THE CORRECT ACCOUNTING. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I QUESTION WHETHER IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAID. I AM NOT COMFORTABLE VOTING ON SOMETHING THAT I QUESTION WHETHER IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAID IN THE FIRST PLACE OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. NOT AN INAPPROPRIATE COMMENT, JUDGE. IT WAS A QUESTION AND I GET TIRED OF YOU EDITORIALIZING WHEN I LET YOU TALK FOREVER ABOUT STUFF THAT EVEN ISN'T ON POINT. I HAVE A RIGHT TO ASK THE QUESTION. THAT IS THE QUESTION I ASKED HER AND THE QUESTION I WILL CONTINUE TO ASK. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU GET QUESTIONS BY QUESTIONS I DON'T ASK YOU. I AM I AM NOT GOING TO VOTE ON THIS ITEM. BECAUSE I AM NOT -- TO ME IT INDICATES THAT I AM COMFORTABLE WITH THE FACT THAT WE SPENT THIS MONEY AND I AM NOT. SO -- NOT AS WE SIT HERE TODAY. I AM SORRY IT GOT SPENT AND GOT BROUGHT TO COURT FOR SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO CHANGE. AND I AM SORRY THE FEDERAL AUDITORS ARE COMING NEXT WEEK, BUT I AM NOT GOING TO DO SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING GOT DONE IN A MANNER I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE. >> WHAT WE ARE DOING IS RATIFYING SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY BEEN DONE. WE ARE AGREEING TO IT? >> ALREADY APPROVED FOR EXPENDITURES. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. SO -- GO AHEAD. >> I HEAR AND FEEL THE FRUSTRATION AS WELL. WE GET STUCK WHERE -- WE HAVE [04:35:01] TO CAN PRACTICAL, THE SERVICES ARE ALREADY CONDUCTED. I DO AGREE WITH THE CONSENSUS MUCH THE COURT AND THE PRACTICE WE ARE DOING. I GET TIMES THEY HAVE TO BE DONE CERTAIN WAYS BECAUSE OF THE TIME FRAME -- AND JUST A MATTER OF APPROVING IT AND I KNOW FOR CODING AND I GET IT. ORGANIZATIONS I WORKED WITH IN THE PAST. THE AUDITOR IS JUST A NORMAL THING TO MAKE SURE IT IS ACTUALLY THE RIGHT TO BE DOING. THE LEGAL THING AND THE RIGHT THING TO BE DOING AND NOT LIKE ANYBODY IS UP TO NO GOOD. IT IS BECAUSE THIS IS THE KIND OF WORK YOU SHOULD BE DOING TO KEEP TRACK OF YOUR BOOKS. BUT I DO HEAR AND FEEL THAT FRUSTRATION AS WELL. BUT, I WANT TO BE PRACTICAL T TOO. THIS HAS BEEN SERVICES THAT HAVE BEEN PERFORMED. AND WE HAVE TO PAY THEM WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT. I THINK WE ARE AT THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO PAY IT. NOW I DO BELIEVE AND AGREE THAT OF POLICY AND THE OVERALL MIND SET OF HOW DO WE APPROACH THESE BILLS AND IF THERE ARE IMPROVING ITEMS THAT WERE ADMINISTERED AND CARRIED OUT THAT THERE IS NOT ANYTHING COMING TO US OTHER THAN A RUBBER STAMP. SO I SEE CONCERN EXPRESSED BY COMMISSIONER CHESNEY AND OTHERS. I DO WANT TO BE PRACTICAL. I DON'T WANT TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE NOT PAYING OUR BILLS. AND BIGGER DISCUSSIONS AND REALLY TIGHTEN OUR BELT AND HOW CONTRACTS ARE WRITTEN. AND IF IT IS A SERVICE THAT HAS TO BE CONCERNED BECAUSE IT IS TIME SENSITIVE AND NO WAY TO BRING IT BACK. AND COURT. WE ARE MEETING ON A WEEKLY BASIS NOW UNFORTUNATELY. WE -- WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME, I THINK, TO BRING UP FOR REVIEW. AND HOW WE HAVE DONE IT IN THE PAST AND REALIZE THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST AND I AM NOT TALKING RECENTLY BECAUSE OF COVID AND BECAUSE OF YEARS IN THE MAKING. IF WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A WHILE NOW, THEN WE ARE JUST WAKING UP TO IT. BUT -- I SUPPORT IT BECAUSE WE NEED TO PAY OUR BILLS. SO HOPE WE CONTINUE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON THIS AND I THINK THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO HELP US WITH THIS WITH THE BACKGROUND AND HELP US GET UP TO DATE ON THESE ITEMS SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE -- WE ARE ALL GIVING THE SAME INFORMATION AND THIS WE CAN DO WORK BEFORE WE GET HERE. AND HAVE IT -- HAVE IT KIND OF ALL WORKED OUT AS WELL. >>JUDGE CANALES: DISASTERS ARE LIKE UNFUNDED MANDATES. THEY COME AND YOU DON'T GET TO PREPARE FOR THEM BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BRING YOU. THEY COULD BRING YOU ONE D DROPLET OR BRING YOU TOTAL CATASTROPHE. I HAVE NO TROUBLE IN A BUDGETARY CYCLE SAYING WE SHOULD HAVE AN APPROPRIATE ALLOCATION FOR CONTINGENCIES FOR LAWSUITS APPROPRIATED. YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO GUESS RIGHT BECAUSE YOU DON'T NOPE. WHAT IS IMPORTANT WHAT COMMISSIONER MAREZ SAID. THIS IS EXACTLY IN KEEPING FOR ALL WE HAVE DONE IT WITH ALL OF OUR DISASTERS. THE IDEA THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO SPEND A DOLLAR IN A DISASTER IS LUDICROUS. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO KNOW THAT WE HAD A CONTRACT THAT WAS NOT ONLY VETTED BUT BROUGHT TO THE COURT. THEY HAVE BEEN HELPING US THROUGH ALL OF OUR DISASTERS AND IN THIS ONE PARTICULAR ONE PAID FOR THE WORK AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE NOT GOING TO BE REIMBURSED. WE WILL NOT GET REIMBURSED FROM FEMA AT NO FOUGHT OF THEIR OWN OR THEIRS. THAT IS KEY AND CRITICAL. WHAT ELVA IS ASKING NOT TO CAUSE THIS COUNTY FURTHER HARM. LET'S THEM CODE IT PROPERLY SO YOU ARE NOT SPENDING MORE MONEY FOR AUDITORS THAT WILL FLAG IT FOR CERTAIN AND SAY THAT YOU HAVE NOT DONE SOMETHING CORRECTLY. IT IS INCUMBENT UPON US TO SUPPORT THE AUDITOR'S RECOMMENDATION TO BOOK IT CORRECTLY. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR OPINION OF IT, BUT, MY GOO GOODNESS, YOU ARE NOT BEING ASKED TO DO ANYTHING BUT KEEP YOUR WORD. YOUR WORD IS THAT THE CONTRACT WE SIGNED HAS BEEN PAID. SERVICES WERE RENDERED. AND IN THIS ONE MOMENT, WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET IT BACK. IN ALL THE OTHER MOMENTS, WE HAVE. [04:40:03] AND IT HAS BEEN IMPORTANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE FIGHTING FOR US TO GET THE BULK OF THE DOLLARS BACK FOR DISASTER. I WILL GO BACK TO, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY THERE IS A DISCONNECT IN WHAT IT IS THAT WE ARE DOING OVER ALL WHEN WE ARE -- YOU KNOW, SEEKING REIMBURSE. AND HONOR RUSS IT IS AND HOW DIFFICULT THIS CAN BE WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH MULTIPLE DISASTERS. ALL ELVA IS ASKING ON BEHALF OF THE AUDITORS TO CODE IT PR PROPERLY AND I URGE THAT WE NOT CREATE MORE DOLLARS WASTED, YOU KNOW, BY ASKING AN AUDITOR TO FLAG THIS. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO IF YOU DON'T VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. IT IS GOING TO BE -- YOU CAN DO ALL SUR SUBJECT TO. I DON'T LIKE IT, BUT WE NEED TO GIVE THE AUDITOR THE CORRECT BOOK KEEPING. I AM NOT EVEN SURE HOW YOU CAN IN GOOD CONSCIOUS NOT BOOK IT CORRECTLY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NOT BOOK IT CORRECTLY BY THE FUNDS WERE DISPUTE AND AND I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAID. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY SHOULD BE PAID AND INELIGIBLE TO BE REPAID BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT REIMBURSED. THE CODING ISSUE IS THE SECONDARY ISSUE. IF THE FUNDS WERE NEVER PAID AND DISPUTED BEFORE THEY GOT PAID AND THEN WE WERE TOLD THAT OOPS, THEY ARE INELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT. AS SOON AS I WAS TOLD THAT I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE INELIGIBLE UNTIL AFTER THEY GOT PAID. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO STOP THAT. THIS HAPPENS REPEATEDLY. THERE IS NO DISCONNECT WHATSOEVER, JUDGE. THE DISCONNECT -- I WANT YOU TO HEAR CLEARLY WHAT I THINK THE DISCONNECT IS SINCE THAT IS YOUR FAVORITE WORD TODAY. THE DISCONNECT IS THAT I AM TIRED OF HAVING BILLS COME IN. FINDING OUT AFTER THE FACT THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISPUTED AND THEY GOT PAID. AND THEN I FIND OUT THEY ARE DISPUTED. THAT IS THE DISCONNECT HERE. THAT IS THE ROOT OF THE PRO PROBLEM. SO THAT IS WHERE IT HAS TO GO BACK TO IS, I WANT THOSE PAYMENTS TO BE REVIEWED. I WANT TO TALK TO DALE. AND I WANT TO SEE -- I WANT TO BE CONVINCED THINK SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAID IN THE FIRST PLACE AND ELIGIBLE FOR PAVEMENT IN THE FIRST PLACE WHEN INELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT. I WANT TO GO BACK AND SEE THE CONTRACTS. THAT IS MY PROBLEM. CODING IS THE SECOND SECONDARY ISSUE AND THE EFFECT OF THE DISCONNECTED THAT WE CONTINUE TO SEE THINGS AFTER THE FACT. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU CAN DISCUSS THAT WITH THE AUDITOR. YOU CAN DISCUSS THAT WITH THE AUDITOR, BUT IF YOU HAD A LEGAL QUESTION, YOU CAN BRING UP THAT LEGAL ISSUE. BUT WE HAVE A CONTRACT AND THE CONTRACT SPECIFICALLY REQUIRES PEOPLE WHO PERFORM SERVICES TO GET PAID. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT IS HOW IT WORKS. IN LAW. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I KNOW HOW IT WORKS. HOW DID THEY KNOW THEY WEREN'T GOING TO GET PAID FOR THIS AND BILL US ANYWAY. I DIDN'T GET A SUFFICIENT ANSWER TO THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS NOT THE CASE. YOU ARE INSISTING BECAUSE YOU ENJOY THE THEATRE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THERE WE GO. GO AHEAD. ALL THEATRE -- ANY TIME SOMEBODY DISAGREES WITH YOU. NO, JUDGE, I AM STILL TALKING. YOU WANT TO MAKE ACCUSATIONS. EVERY TIME YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE SAYS IS THEATRE AND RHETORIC WHERE IT IS REALLY YOU THAT WON'T ALLOW THIS TO GO ON. I GUESS YOU MUST FEEL GUILTY ABOUT IT, BECAUSE YOU TAKE IT PERSONALLY. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BECAUSE IT IS SO INCOHERENT. LET'S GET SERIOUS. THIS IS SILLY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM SUPER SERIOUS. I AM SUPER SERIOUS ABOUT IT, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I REALIZE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: TIRED OF GETTING BILLED FOR THINGS THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. THAT IS WHAT I AM SOUP IRSERIOUS. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU ARE M MISCHARACTERIZE AND HOPE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SPEAKS UP. IF HE HAS A CONCERN OF THE LEGALITY OF IT, THAT IS WHERE YOU COME IN. YOU CAN LOOK AT THE CONTRACT. YOU CAN SEE THAT HE THINKS THAT IT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PAID AND YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT. BUT IT IS VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT NOBODY IS -- WE ARE ALLOWING THE MISCHARACTERIZATION AND DISPARAGEMENT OF A COMPANY BECAUSE THEY PERFORMED A CONTRACT OF WHICH WE ALREADY AUTHORIZED AND SIGNED. IF HE HAS A QUESTION FOR DALE, WE CAN DO THAT. BUT I THINK THIS IS GETTING -- THE SERIOUSNESS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HE -- I THINK WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THIS WITH DALE AND THEN IF HE HAS A LEGAL QUESTION IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE WHAT HE IS DOING RIGHT NOW ACTING LIKE THE CONTRACT IS IN DISPUTE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IT IS CALLED ASKING HARD QUESTIONS. I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE THAT AND YOU DON'T WANT HARD QUESTIONS RELATED -- >>JUDGE CANALES: HERE WE GO AGAIN. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO, JUDGE. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT I AM SUPPOSED TO DO. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CHE CHESNEY. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS ALSO NOT THE CASE. [04:45:01] YOU ARE MISCHARACTERIZING. JENNY, ASK FOR US TO HAVE A LITTLE ORDER. IF THERE IS A LEGAL CONCERN, BRING IT UP IN A LEGAL ISSUE. IT IS NOT A LEGAL ISSUE BUT CODING ISSUE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO CODE IT. AND I AGREE WE SHOULD PAY WHATEVER WE NEED TO PAY, BUT I GOT -- MY QUESTION STILL -- STILL AT THE FIRST ONE. 23,000 FOR ONE MONTH? FOR CONSULTATION? HOW DO YOU DIVIDE THAT. WORKING 24 HOURS DAY, THREE WEEKS, FOUR WEEKS. NOBODY QUESTIONS ANYTHING WHEN IT COMES ACROSS THE TABLE AND SAYS 23 NOW. >>JUDGE CANALES: ITEMIZED INVOICES HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WORKING ON THE FILE WHEN WE DID THE RFP, EVERYBODY WHO IS ITEMIZED HAS AN HOURLY RATE. .>COMMISSIONE GONZALEZ PAY IT BY PERSON. >>JUDGE CANALES: HE AN INVOICE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE DIDN'T ASK FOR 15 PEOPLE. DO THE JOB ACCORDING TO THE -- I AM NOT -- LIKE I SAID, IT IS NOT CLEAR TO ME. >>JUDGE CANALES: A FAIR QUESTION AND I THINK YOU CAN GET THE ANSWERS THAT YOU NEED BY WORKING WITH THE COURT MANAGER AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR HER TO BRING IT UP TO EVERYBODY, YOU CAN DO THAT BUT ITEMIZATIONS AND A COMPLETE -- NO DIFFERENT THAN ME LOOKING AT FIESTA RANCH. $178,000 TO CLEAN CULVERTS. THINGS ARE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE YOU PAY PEOPLE BY THE CONTRACT. OUR CONTRACT HAS ALL THE IMPORTANT INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED AND THE INVOICES HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION. THEY ARE QUITE FRANKLY SUPER DETAILED BECAUSE THEY NEED TO BE FOR FEMA AND FOR TETUM. IF YOU GET A CHANCE YOU CAN WORK WITH THEM TO SEE ON THAT -- ON THAT PARTICULAR MIND WHAT THAT WAS. >> JUDGE, WILL YOU ALLOW ME TO GO BACK TO THE AGENDA. I WANT TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE THEY NEED TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO CLOSE THE BOOK. AND THE PAYMENT IS ALREADY DONE. SO WE NEED TO -- AND NEED TO RECLASSIFY THIS EXPENSE TO LOOK AT IT PROPERLY. >>JUDGE CANALES: EXACTLY. FOR THAT LIMITED PURPOSE, I WOULD LIKE TO -- LET ME SEE HOW IT WAS DONE HERE. I THINK I HAD THE MOTION. JUST TO ALLOW THE AUDITOR THAT SUPPORT THE TRANSFER REGARDING GENERAL FUND REGARDING WINTER WEATHER YURI FOR THE HAGERTY EXPENSE. OKAY. THAT IS THE MOTION. I MAY NOT HAVE SAID IT CLEANLY, BUT I THINK YOU GOT IT. OKAY. AND IS THERE A SECOND? >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: YES, FOR DISCUSSION. >>JUDGE CANALES: FIRST AND SECOND. ANYWAY, COMMISSIONER MAREZ WILL HAVE THE SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THANK YOU. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: ABSTAIN. [1. Discuss and consider reclassifying the Veterans Service Officer position in the Veterans Service Department (#1275) to Pay Group 28 effective October 2, 2021.] >>JUDGE CANALES: ABSTENTION. THANK YOU. JULIE, YOU ARE THE LAST ON THE NORMAL AGENDA AND WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE. IT IS A HUMAN RESOURCES MATTER. AND A CLEANUP AS I UNDERSTAND IT. A RECLASS OF THE DSO POSITION IN ORDER TO EFFECT -- EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 2, WHICH IS OUR FISCAL YEAR AND DEPARTMENT 1275 THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE -- WITH JJ AND HIS ROLE AS THE -- OF THE OVERSEER OF THE VETERANS CEMETERY AND MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DIDN'T -- WE DIDN'T ITEMIZE IT WHEN WE DID OUR SERVICES. IT -- BUT THIS WILL COME OUT OF THAT BUDGET OF $75,000 FROM THE VETERANS CEMETERY BUDGET. >> CORRECT. THIS IS JUST A CLEANUP LIKE YOU SAID. FOR SOME REASON IT GOT CLARIFIED INCORRECTLY AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CORRECT IT FOR WHAT IT IS BUDGETED FOR. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO DO THAT. >> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. [4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.] >>JUDGE CANALES: GUILT NOTICE THAT WE ARE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH 55101, 2, 3, 4, 6 AND 7. WE ARE DISCUSSING REAL PRO PROPERTY, TERMINATION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ANY OTHER MATTER THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION POP UPON COMPLETION WE WILL COME BACK INTO OPEN SECTION. WE HAVE A-J AT THIS TIME. SO FOR THE CLERK, I CAN'T PREDICT, BUT A-J IS A LOT. [04:50:03] >> SOME OF THEM WILL GO QUI QUICKLY, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY -- TEXT YOU. OKAY. AND AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK EVERYONE TO CLEAR THE COURT. 1:40 P.M. >>JUDGE CANALES: ON THE RECORD TIME IS 3:23. WE HAVE TAKEN ACTION AND SOME ARE ON THE REGULAR AGENDA AND SOME ARE POSTED IN EXECUTIVE. I WILL TAKE THE ONES IN [A. Consult with County Attorney regarding approval of settlement of claim and authorize County Auditor to pay the constitutionally-required compensation payments to, and restore the benefits of, those certain Nueces County Sheriff’s deputies who received, or were eligible to receive, workers’ compensation pay in 2020 and 2021.] EXECUTIVE FIRST. FIRST ONE I WILL ACTUALLY MAKE SINCE I TOOK THE NOTES. TO AUTHORIZE TO PAY BENEFITS TO NUECES COUNTY SHERIFF DEPUTIES HAD HO ARE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE WORKERS CAMP. AND THEN FINALLY, THERE IS ONE PARTICULAR EMPLOYEE IN THE NCSO OFFICE THAT WE -- THE MOTION IS TO RESTORE THE HOURS THAT ARE DUE, WHICH I BELIEVE TOTAL 3 326.8 HOURS. A MOUTHFUL OF A MOTION, BUT MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. [B. Deliberate the value of real property located at 430 N. Alister Street, Port Aransas, Texas.] [C. Consult with County Attorney on legal matters related to the sale of 430 N. Alister, Port Aransas, Texas.] OKAY. THE SECOND TAKING THEM IN ORDER HAS TO DO WITH THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY AT 430 NORTH ALISTER STREET. IS THERE A MOTION HERE? COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THIS WILL COVER ITEM B AND C AND THE MOTION TO DIRECT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO REACH OUT FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE CITY MANAGER OR BOTH IN THE CITY OF PORT ARANSAS TO BEGIN DELIBERATIONS ON A SALE OF 430 NORTH ALISTER IN PORT ARANSAS, TEXAS, FROM THE COUNTY TO THE CITY. >>JUDGE CANALES: THERE IS A MOTION. I WILL SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. [E. Consult with County Attorney regarding approval of mediated settlement agreement disposing of Sandi Hollinger’s claim, address request by Ms. Hollinger’s attorney for attorney fees in the amount of $3,500 and authorize County Auditor to pay the amount approved by the Court; authorize County Judge to execute settlement documents.] OKAY, THE ITEM E, THERE IS A MEDIATED SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT INVOLVING ANDI HOLLINGER. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: COMMISSIONERS COURT AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO GET WITH THE ATTORNEY TO PAY THE AMOUNT OF $3500 TO THE ATTORNEY MR. ROBERT -- >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: TELL ME THAT ONE AGAIN. >> WOMAN: 35 00 FOR SANDI HOLLINGER. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS ITEM E, NOT F. A MOTION AND A SECOND BY MAREZ. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, ON ITEM [F. Consult with County Attorney regarding approval of mediated settlement agreement disposing of Marta Ruiz’s claim, address request by Ms. Ruiz’s attorney for attorney fees in the amount of $10,000 and determine if the Court will accept the amount and authorize County Auditor to pay the amount approved by the Court; authorize County Judge to execute settlement documents.] F. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO GET WITH THE ATTORNEY AND PAY THE AMOUNT OF $2,000. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR THAT. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> NEED TO SETTLE THE CLAIM. >>JUDGE CANALES: AMEND YOUR MOTION. >> AMEND THE MOTION TO SETTLE THE CLAIM AND OFFER $2,000 FOR ATTORNEY'S FEES. ALL THOSE. I HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. YES, SIR. DO YOU AGREE TO THAT AMENDMENT? >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I SAID I WOULD SECOND, YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. [G. Consult with County Attorney and outside counsel regarding Tissue Bank agreement.] OKAY. THEN ITEM G HAS TO DO WITH -- THERE IS A -- THERE IS A MOTION REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR AGREEMENT, TISSUE BANK AGREEMENT. COMMISSIONER MAREZ, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? >> YES, JUDGE. MY MOTION IS TO TERMINATE THE EXISTING CONTRACT FOR THE TISSUE BANK AGREEMENT. >>JUDGE CANALES: IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. [H. Consult with County Attorney regarding legal matters relating to payment of bills submitted by ABM for items received by the County to be installed at the Hazel Bazemore Dog Park; authorize the payment of bills for invoiced items received by the County.] [I. Consult with County Attorney regarding legal matters relating to payment of bills submitted by ABM for items received by the County; authorize payment of appropriate payments by the County.] ON ITEMS H AND I, A MOTION REGARDING THE PAYMENT OF BILLS SUBMITTED REGARDING THE EQUIPMENT THAT IS NOT IN DISPUTE OF THE HAZEL BAZEMORE DOG PARK. OKAY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SOMEBODY HAD A CLARITY MOTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE COURT HEARS ALREADY AND CON FIRMS THAT EQUIPMENT IS NOT IN DISPUTE FOR THE HAZEL BAZEMORE DOG PARK AND INVOICED AND RECEIVED BY THE COUNTY THAT IT BE PAID. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. [04:55:02] OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. I HAVE GOT ONE NO. AND THEN -- THE REST OF THE ITEMS ARE CONSULT, BUT THERE ARE COUPLE OF ONES THAT ARE LINGERING. LET ME SEE. ONE OF THEM HAS TO DO WITH PROCUREMENT. GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT. I WILL MOVE TO THAT. PURCHASING C 1 HAS TO DO. AND WITH SPECTRA, AND THIS HAS TO DO WITH RFP 9521. THERE WAS ONE ADDITION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YES, MA'AM, THE COURT ADOPT THE SPECTRA AGREEMENT WITH THE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE. >> AND THE MOTION IS THERE. IS THERE A SECOND? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL CALL INTO DISCUSSION AND WITHOUT GOING INTO HEATED DEBATE. I COMPLETELY SUPPORT THE MANAGEMENT SERVICES BEING PROVIDED BY SPECTRA VENUE MANAGEMENT AND VOTED NOTHING TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN OVER THE FACT THAT I BELIEVE THE LATEST CHANGES ARE A DIRECTLY CONTRARY TO THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, AND THAT IS IN -- THAT IS NOT -- THERE ARE OTHERS THAT FEEL DIFFERENTLY, AND SO WE WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: A MOTION? >>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. AND NO. THAT LEAVES ONE ITEM THAT WE WILL PASS ON, EYE QUEM Q ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, TO AUTHORIZE THE AWARD OF 38721. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE THE ITEM UNTIL NEXT WEDNESDAY? >> SO MOVED. >> I WILL SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY, ALL RIGHT, I THINK THAT THEY HAVE CONCLUDED EVERYTHING. I CALL FOR ADJOURNMENT IN MEMORY. JUST DO A DOUBLE CHECK. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: DID WE DO J? >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT WAS JUST A QUESTION TO THE LEGAL ATTORNEY. THAT WAS A QUESTION TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. SHE IS GOING TO GET BACK. THE QUESTION WAS POSED BY COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REVEALED SHE WILL BE RESPONDING TO COMMISSIONER CHESNEY AND THE REST OF US. IS THAT ACCURATE, COMMISSIONER. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHICH ONE, I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT HE ASKED? >>JUDGE CANALES: ON J. I SAID YOU DIRECTED THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO ANSWER A QUESTION AND PROVIDE THE ANSWER TO ALL OF US. [ Adjournment in Memory (upon request)] >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YES, I AM SORRY. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE CONCLUDED THE COUNTY'S BUSINESS AND AND ADJOURNMENT IN MEMORY. ARE THERE ANY THAT NEED TO BE BROUGHT FORTH. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, YOU HAVE ONE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I ACTUALLY HAVE FIVE, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL LET YOU PROCEED. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THE FIRST ONE RICHARD DICK HANSON BORN IN DETROIT, MICHIGAN 1938 WILL BE REMEMBERED FOR SKILLFUL MANAGERIAL SKILLS AND REMEMBERED FOR HIS LOVE OF FAMILY AND THE HUSBAND OF B. HANDSON HAD IS THE WONDERFUL FOOD BANK DIRECTOR. AND HE WORKED AT CCAB UNTIL HIS RETIREMENT IN 1994 AND MARRIED B. HANSON BEST FRIEND AND PARTNER FOR 27 YEARS. COASTAL BEND FOOD BANK BENEFITED FROM HIS. THEY BENEFITTED FROM HIM AND TOOK CARE OF IS MOTHER-IN-LAW WHO CALLED HIM MAMACITA. I HAVE NOT YET READ -- MAYOR'S OFFICIAL OBIT TO THE END. THE NEXT ONE IS FOR DON CARBAHAL, BROTHER OF AN EMPLOYEE HERE AT NUECES COUNTY AND OFFER CONDOLENCES TO HER FAMILY. NEXT ONE IS KENNETH MORGAN JR. ADA PASSED AWAY WITH FAMILY BY HIS SIDE. BORN ON NOVEMBER 25, 1933 AT HIS HOME IN BELMONT. TO QUOTE A FRIENDS. KEN IS THE KINDEST MAN HE NOS. HE GIVES HIS BEST EFFORT AND FAVORITE TIMES TRAVELLING WITH HIS WIFE AND SOCIALIZING WITH FRIENDS. 17 GRANDCHILDREN, GREAT GR GRANDCHILDREN, NEPHEWS AND NIECES AND PERFECTLY TIMED AND PRINTED BIRTHDAY CARDS. WANT TO HONOR AND REMEMBER LISA ANN O'HARE. THE SISTER OF HER RELYNN CALHOUN. BRIAN CALHOUN. SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW HIM. AFTER A BATTLE WITH CANCER SWR [05:00:01] SWEET LISA WAS CALLED HOME AND MY CONDOLENCES TO THE OWE SHARE FAMILY OF THOSE WHO LOVED AND LOVED HER. AND I WANT TO READ A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MAYOR BUYON WHO AS THEY SAY A LOCAL POLITICIAN, FISHING GUY AND RETIRED INSURANCE EXECUTIVE. HE PASSED AWAY PEACEFULLY WITH HIS FAMILY ON HIS SIDE WEDNESDAY FEBRUARY 9 AT THE AGE OF 77 AFTER A COURAGEOUS BATTLE WITH CANCER. BORN AUGUST 9, 1974. MISS MOTHER WENT INTO LABOR ON THE FERRY RIDE TO THE MAINLAND. THE SON OF VIOLA AND CLIFFORD, GREW UP IN PORT ARANSAS AN ISLAND OFF OF TEXAS WITH WILD HORSES AND CATTLE. HIS FATHER RAISED CATTLE IN CHARLIE'S PASTURE. I WILL SUBMIT THE REST OF HIS OBIT SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT. BUT TRULY NOT A MAN WHO FOUGHT HARDER FOR ARANSAS RANDY. MY CONDOLENCES FOR THE FAMILY FOR THE LOSS OF A GREAT, GREAT MAN. THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. I HAVE TWO -- BUT I THINK I AM GOING TO SAVE ONE BECAUSE I CAN'T FIND THE COMPLETE OBITUARY AND EXPRESS OUR CONDOLENCES TO THE BOSQUEZ FAMILY HERE LOCALLY ON THE LOSS OF A WOMAN WHO GREW UP HERE IN CORPUS CHRISTI AND WAS THE MOTHER TO A DEAR FRIENDS OF MINE, CYNTHIA VILLERAL AND A MEMBER OF THE BOSQUEZ FAMILY. WE WILL PRESENT HER OBITUARY NEXT WEEK. THE ONE WE HAVE PRESENT IS SAD FOR US AND MEMBERS OF THE CORPUS CHRISTI CATHEDRAL, CHARLES DAVID VAZQUEZ ONLY 53 AND WENT TO BE WITH OUR LORD AND SAVIOR FEBRUARY 5. HE WAS BORN IN TEXAS TO A DEACON LUPE AND ELIE VASQUEZ. HE WENT ON TO TO DEL MAR COLLEGE AND INDUCTED IN THEIR HALL OF FAME. TEXAS A & M EARNING A BBA AND MASTER MUCH ACCOUNTANCY. WAS A CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT AND SPENT 35 YEARS SPECIALIZING IN TAX PREP SERVICES. HE WON MANY DIFFERENT AWARDS IN THE FINANCIAL ARENA HELPING TAXPAYERS ACHIEVE BETTER FINANCIAL OUTCOMES. AND HE WAS BLESSED -- THIS IS HOW I WILL REMEMBER HIM THE MOST. WHEN I SAW THE OBITUARY I WAS STUNNED BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW HE HAD A CPA. FOR ME THE BEAUTIFUL TENOR VOICE IN THE CHOIR EVERY TIME I WENT TO CHURCH AND HE LOVED MUSIC AND SINGING AND HE SANG FOR MANY, MANY CHURCHES AND THE CORPUS CHRISTI CATHEDRAL. I FIRST METONYM HOLY CROSS WHERE HE SANG AN INCREDIBLE. AND HE SANG AND PARTICIPATED FOR MANY YEARS IN THE JAZZ FESTIVAL. PART OF THE JAZZ MASS AND CHOIR AND SANG FOR HIS HOLINESS JOHN PAUL IN 1993. HE WROTE IN ONE OF HIS APPLICATIONS TO THE UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME THAT MUSIC HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL FORCES IN MY LIFE. WHEN HE HEARD MUSIC, HE WOULD HEAR A SYMPHONY. WHEN YOU HEARD HIM SING, YOU KNOW HE WAS MY SYMPHONY. SINGING FOR THE POPE, CHARLES WILL SAY SO MANY OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT HE HAD BECAME BECAUSE OF HIS VOICE. HE WAS AN AVID RACK YETBALL PLAYER AND ENTHUSIAST OF SO MANY DIFFERENT -- DIFFERENT EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES, DANCING, SWIMMING, ZUMBA AND JUST A DEVOUT CATHOLIC WHO WAS ECUMENICAL. A GIVING HUMAN BEING AND A CHEERFUL GIVER AND GAVE OF HIS TIME, TALENT AND TREASURE. WHAT A TREMENDOUS LOSS. HE WAS SO YOUNG. SUCH A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL VOICE THAT HE GAVE SINGING FOR OUR LORD AND FOR ALL OF US THAT SAW HIM. SO MANY OF OUR INTERFAITH MINISTRIES. SO WITH THAT, THAT IS THE LAST OBITUARY I HAVE ALTHOUGH IT DAWNS ON ME THAT OVER THE WEEKEND, I THINK THERE MUST HAVE BEEN OVER 20 DEATHS, CUMULATIVELY FOR COVID-19 WHICH IS REALLY SHOCKING. WE ARE STILL -- YOU KNOW, I AM -- I AM ALWAYS JOLTED HOW MANY PEOPLE WE LOST IN IN OW OUR COMMUNION AND WE DON'T HAVE THEIR NAMES OR PITCH REESE. WE DON'T KNOW -- OBITUARIES AND THE LOSS OF THE LOVED ONES THAT HAVE -- THAT HAVE GONE TO HEAVEN IN THIS PAST WEEK. SO THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR COURT TODAY. IT CONCLUDES OUR COURT AND OUR ADJOURNMENTED AND WE STAND OFFICIALLY ADJOURNED AT 4:38. [05:05:06] IF YOU TAKE US OFF THE * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.