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GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

WE'RE GOING TO GAVEL IN AND ASK THAT YOU RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO OUR TEXAS FLAGS. AND THIS MORNING INVOCATION.

WE DON'T HAVE A PASTOR, REVEREND RABBI, THIS MORNING.

OK. IT'LL HELP ME SETTLE, I'LL START.

DEAR, HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO GATHER HERE THIS MORNING TO DO GOOD THINGS FOR YOUR PEOPLE.

ALLOW US TO SHOW THAT THERE CAN BE UNITY IN DIFFERENCES THAT THERE CAN BE LOVE AMONG A WORLD THAT SEEMS SO DIVIDED SO OFTEN.

GUIDE US TODAY SO THAT WE MAY ACT IN A WAY THAT COMPORTS WITH THE TREMENDOUS OBLIGATIONS THAT WE FEEL, THE BURDENS THAT WE MUST BEAR, SO THAT WE MAY SAY THAT WE ARE DOING THE VERY BEST THAT WE CAN TO PROVIDE.

FOR A COMMUNITY.

WE ASK THAT YOU PLACE YOUR LOVING ARMS AROUND ALL THOSE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, ALL THOSE SO FAR AWAY FROM US PROTECTING US.

WE ASK THAT YOU HEAL THE SICK AND THAT YOU COMFORT THE FAMILIES OF THOSE THAT ARE SUFFERING AND THOSE THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED RECENT LOSS.

WE ASK ALL THESE THINGS IN YOUR NAME.

AMEN. JUDGE ROGERS IS SAYING THAT THERE'S NO AUDIO.

THERE IS NO OK.

THANK YOU. WE'RE ALL GOOD NOW.

YES, MA'AM. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER ONE INDIVISIBLE.

FOR THE CLERK, IT'S EIGHT FORTY THREE A.M.

IMAGINING WE STARTED JUST A FEW MINUTES BEFORE THAT.

WE ALSO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT.

I CERTIFY THAT AS THE PRESIDING OFFICER, COMMISSIONER ARMADAS IS ONLINE AND JUST GIVE US THE THUMBS UP THAT YOU CAN HEAR NOW.

COMMISSIONER, I GOT THE THUMBS UP COMMISSIONER AT NON-MUSIC GONZALEZ AND CHESSANI PRESENT, INCLUDING MYSELF.

THE DATE IS JANUARY.

TWENTY SIX TWENTY TWENTY TWO.

WE ARE AT NINE OH ONE NORTH LEOPARD NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE IN ON THE THIRD FLOOR OF NOYCE'S COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURTROOM.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO TIMOTHY EVEREST'S OUR RISK MANAGER AND ASK THAT HE PRESENT SAFETY BRIEFING FOR ALL OF US.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

WE'RE MEETING HERE TODAY ON THE THIRD FLOOR OF THE NOYCE'S COUNTY COURTHOUSE, NINE ON ONE LEPPERT STREET. RESTROOMS ARE LOCATED ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE THIRD FLOOR ATRIUM AS YOU EXIT THE COURTROOM, PASS THE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE.

PLEASE NOTE THERE'S A FIRE EXTINGUISHER LOCATED AT THE REAR OF THE COURTROOM.

THERE ARE ALSO FIVE ADDITIONAL FIRE EXTINGUISHERS LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE THIRD FLOOR ATRIUM AREA IN THE EVENT OF A CARDIAC EMERGENCY, AND ED IS LOCATED IN AN ATRIUM WALL NEXT TO THE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE.

PARTICIPANTS RESPONSIBLE FOR DIALING 9-1-1 IN AN EVENT OF EMERGENCY WILL BE COUNTING IN THE EVENT OF AN EVACUATION.

THE EGRESS ROUTE WILL BE DOWN TO ATRIUM STAIRS, EXCELLENT EXITING THE LAPAN STREET ENTRANCE AND ASSEMBLING IN THE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET.

SHOULD THERE BE A NEED TO SHELTER IN PLACE, COURT ATTENDEES WILL REMAIN IN THE COURTROOM DEPENDING UPON THE SEVERITY OF THE INCIDENT.

THE COURTROOM TO DOUBLE DOORS WILL BE SECURED AND REMAIN SECURED UNTIL GIVING FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE NARRATIONS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES OR SHARE SAFETY TOPICS OR THE MEMBER APPLICATION FOR THE NOMINATIONS FOR THE TWENTY TWO TWENTY TWENTY TWO IN OASIS COUNTY LOST CONTROL COMMITTEE WILL BE DISSEMINATED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY IN THE COMING WEEKS.

THAT CONCLUDES MY SAFETY.

BRIEF YOUR HONOR. OK, THANK YOU SO MUCH, TIMOTHY.

[E. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE DO HAVE. I HAVE AT LEAST EIGHT PEOPLE ON MY LIST, AND I'LL REMIND EVERYBODY ONLINE THAT IF YOU WISH TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS RAISE YOUR VIRTUAL ICON OF A HAND AND WE WILL RECOGNIZE YOU AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE COURTROOM, THE ONLY THING WE DO IS WE CLEAN THE PODIUM IN BETWEEN SPEAKERS. IF YOU'LL JUST GIVE IT A LITTLE PAUSE AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME AND THE FIRST PERSON THAT WE HAVE IS MR. IS IT PRONOUNCED FURQAN LAWRENCE? HI, LAWRENCE, FURQAN.

WELCOME, SIR, AND YOU MAY PROCEED.

ABOUT HANDOUTS, SO.

YES, SIR, YOU CAN PROCEED, THE GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS OFFICER WILL TAKE THOSE.

THANK YOU. WE'LL TAKE THEM.

AND JUST BECAUSE THERE'S NEW FACES AND NEW NAMES, I ALWAYS DO LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY HOW

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MUCH WE VALUE PUBLIC COMMENT HERE AT COMMISSIONERS COURT.

BUT JUST TO REMIND YOU, I'M SORRY, YOU'LL GIVE US INFORMATION AND THEN WE WON'T STATE BACK. YES, SIR. I'M SORRY.

BUT. YEAH, THANKS.

I WAS JUST SAYING THAT THAT WE WON'T RESPOND FORMALLY IN THIS FORUM, BUT REST ASSURED, ANYTHING YOU GIVE TO THE COURT, ANYTHING YOU SAY WILL BE TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY AND THEN PERHAPS THERE MIGHT BE AN AGENDA ITEM WHERE WE COULD ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE PRESENTED DURING THIS TIME.

AT ANY RATE, IT'S YOUR TURN NOW.

WE'RE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU.

MY NAME IS LAWRENCE FURQAN, I LIVE AT THIRTY SIX COUNTY ROAD, 50 REPS DOWN IN TEXAS.

I'VE RESIDED AT THIS RESIDENCE SINCE 1979 FOR FORTY THREE YEARS AND THESE PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR WELL OVER 50 YEARS.

FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS ROAD CONDITIONS ON COUNTY ROAD, 50 AND OTHER ROADS IN MY AREA. WHEN 50 TO FIRST OPENED TO SIXTY NINE, IT PROVIDED NO ACCESS TO FORM ROAD 1889, WHICH GREATLY AFFECTED THE ROAD.

I LIVE ON COUNTY ROAD 50.

WHEN THE INVOICES COUNTY CO-OP RELOCATED THEIR BUSINESS FROM ROB DOWN TO COUNTY ROAD 52, THERE WAS NO EXCESS TO FARMER OWNED 1889.

THIS RESULTED IN HEAVY TRAFFIC REROUTING ONTO COUNTY ROAD 50 FROM NBC AND OTHER TRAFFIC COMING FROM HIGHWAY 77.

THIS WENT ON UNTIL THE ROAD WAS COMPLETED, PROVIDING FULL ACCESS TO FM 1889.

I'M STILL GETTING HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC FROM SOIL REMOVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF ANY RETENTION POND FROM SABBIR LANE TO COUNTY ROAD 50.

THIS TRUCK TRAFFIC HAS CAUSED MANY DEEP RUTS THAT ALSO RESULTED IN POTHOLES AND BREAKING UP OF THE ROAD EDGES.

CARNEY RHODES, FIFTY TO SIXTY NINE, FORTY EIGHT HAVE BEEN REPLACED AND RESURFACED TWICE, YET CARNEY WROTE FIFTY REMAINS WITH ONLY OCCASIONAL POOR POTHOLE REPAIRS, WHICH DETERIORATE QUICKLY.

SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE LACK OF MAINTENANCE IN THE DRAINAGE DITCHES, WHICH WHERE I LIVE CURRENT DRAINAGE PROBLEMS, WHICH I WISH TO DISCUSS, ARE LOCATED ON FORMER ROAD 1889 COUNTY ROADS, 50 TO 50 TO BE WELL WORTH THE ALL DRAIN INTO THE WEST DITCH ON COUNTY ROAD 69.

THE LARGEST POWER PROBLEM IS A DRAINAGE DITCH ON COUNTY ROAD 69 STARTING AT THE ROPS DOWN CITY LIMIT. THIS DITCH BEFORE THE PALM TREE FARM PASSES UNDER 69, HEADING EAST FOR SEVERAL HUNDRED FEET AND THEN IT GOES SOUTH TO COUNTY ROAD.

44 DITCH ONTO THE OSO DRAINAGE THIS DITCH.

IS BEING MET ALSO FROM 1889, HAS NOT BEEN MAINTAINED FOR OVER 43 YEARS AND IS CHOKED UP WITH TREES, TRASHED BRIDGES AND GENERAL OVERGROWTH.

THERE IS NO MAINTENANCE ON THIS DITCH ON THE EAST WEST SIDE OF FARM ROAD.

1889 JUST CAUSES THE WATER TO DRAIN ACROSS FROM THE LAKES INTO DE LOOP RESIDENTIAL AREA AT COUNTY ROAD, 50 TO BE.

THIS INCLUDES FLOODING ACROSS THE ROAD AT MEMORIAL CEMETERY ONTO FARM ROAD 1889 AS WELL.

IT HAS NO WORD TO DRAIN, CAUSING TRAFFIC PROBLEMS AS WELL.

SIESTA LOOP HAS BEEN PARTIALLY DUG OUT TO RELIEVE FLOODING ALSO, BUT THE WATER STILL CONTINUES TO DRAIN FROM 1889 COUNTY ROADS, 50 TO 50 TO BE AND ON TO 69.

NO, THE ONLY DEBTS ON 16 IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE, ONCE THIS WATER GETS DROPS DOWN CITY LIMIT, WHERE THE DITCHES ARE NOT POORLY MAINTAINED, GOOD DRAINAGE IS IMPOSSIBLE.

IT CONTINUES TO BACK UP AND FLOODING THE EAST AND WEST RESIDENTS OF BUSINESS ON FM 1889 AS WELL. IN CLOSING, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS WITH THE SAME COMPLAINT.

I'VE MET WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO OFFER NO SOLUTION YET.

I DON'T SEE ANY CHANCES.

I DON'T NEED AN ENGINEER TO RESOLVE THESE PROBLEMS. THIS IS JUST A MATTER OF GOOD MAINTENANCE OF THE DRAINAGE DITCHES TO ENSURE THE WATER DOESN'T BACK UP AND CONTINUE TO FLOOD THE AREA AND DECENT ROAD REPAIRS TO SUBSTANTIATE HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC.

I'VE DONE MY PART AND I HAVE BEEN I HAVE PHOTOGRAPHED AND GIVEN THE AREAS OF CONCERN WITH YOUR REPRESENTATIVES, BARBARA CANLAS AND MELISSA MUNGUIA, GARRETT NELSON BEING THE LAST ONE US. I SPENT EXTENSIVE TIME SHOWING HIM THE PROBLEMS AND I KNOW MELISSA MUNGIU WAS

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MOVED UP AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND GELSON MERRITT, GARRETT, GARRETT NELSON TOOK HER PLACE TEMPORARILY FROM LUBBOCK AND HE'S GIVING YOU ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT THESE DITCHES AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING BACK FROM ANYBODY.

I CAN'T DIG OUT THESE DITCHES, SO I NEED YOUR HELP TO STEP UP AND.

AND HE'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THESE PROBLEMS. THAT'S BEEN CONTINUED FOR WAY OVER 43 YEARS.

I THINK IT'S TIME SOMEBODY TAKE CARE OF THIS PROBLEM.

DITCH THAT'S BACKING EVERYBODY UP.

AND THAT'S THAT SECTION.

IF YOU LOOK OVER THERE ON THE DIAGRAM THAT I'VE SHOWED YOU IN THE PROBLEM DITCH IS WHERE IT'S AT ON THE ON THE FIRST PAGE, WHERE IT STARTS RIGHT BEFORE FORTY SIX COMES ACROSS TO SIXTY NINE AND THEN FINALLY CUTS OVER TO FORTY FOR THE STITCHES, JUST PLUMB FULL OF TREES OVERGROWTH AND TRASH.

AND I'VE GOT ON THE PICTURES AFTER THAT.

THE FIRST PICTURE SHOWS ON COUNTY ROAD SIXTY NINE.

THE CHANGE IN COLOR IS.

THE PAVEMENT IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF ROB STANDING IN THE CITY LIMITS, AND YOU CAN TELL IT'S PRETTY WELL GROOMED BY THE BY THE COUNTY BEFORE THAT.

BUT WHEN IT GETS DROPS DOWN, SAY, LIMIT ALL THE GRASS AND THE TREES GROWTH ON THE LEFT, AS IS WHERE THE CITY LIMIT BEGINS.

NEXT PAGE IS YOU CAN TELL THERE'S THE SIGN DROPS DOWN CITY LIMITS THE SHOW AND WHERE THE WHERE THE CITY LIMITS IS GOING NORTH TO FORTY EIGHT AND COUNTY ROAD 50.

SO THE CHANGE IN THE ROAD COLOR YOU CAN PLAINLY SEE AND THE SIGN WHERE ROB DROPS DOWN THE LIMITS BEGAN AND THE TRASH AND AND THE DEBRIS YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE.

IT SHOWS YOU RIGHT WHERE IT BEGINS LOOKING THE OTHER DIRECTION.

THIS IS WHERE ROCKS DOWN CITY LIMITS BEGINS ON COUNTY ROAD.

SIXTY NINE IN THE DITCH AND OLD TIRES AND TREES AND GRASS AND OVERGROWTH GO INTO THE NEXT PAGE. SAME THING.

COUNTY ROAD FOR 69 CITY LIMITS DITCH ON THE RIGHT FULL OF GRASS, TREES AND PEOPLE DUMPING. I'LL GO TO THE NEXT PAGE.

CAN CAN I JUST MATTRESSES? JUST ONE SECOND. REALLY, THE PUBLIC ACCOUNTING WORKS NEEDS TO BE HEARING ALL THIS STUFF TOO. I GO FIND THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS WENT TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, BUT THIS NEEDS TO BE IN THE PUBLIC WORKS.

SO. RIGHT? ONE OF YOUR LISTENERS TO COME UP, PLEASE.

I DON'T MEAN TO. I DON'T WANT TO RESPOND, BUT I WANT THIS PERSON HERE, SIR, TO HEAR THIS.

BUT TO SAY THAT? LET ME LET YOU FINISH AND THEN GO AHEAD.

BUT I JUST SENT SOMEONE TO GET THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR BECAUSE ACTUALLY, I CAN WAIT.

NO, NO, YOU ALL GOT THIS TIME.

THAT'S OK. HE'S GOING TO NEED TO TALK TO HIM OFFLINE ANYWAY.

BUT BUT YOU CAN KEEP PRESENTING TO US.

I'M SORRY FOR INTERRUPTING YOU.

WELL, THEN I'LL GO TO THE NEXT PAGE.

KIND OF ROADS. THE CITY LIMITS AGAIN, MORE TREES OVERGROWTH PLUGGING UP OF THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM, CAUSING THE FLOODING ON ALL THE ROADS 48, 50, 50 TO 50 TO BE IN SIESTA LOOP AND RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OF 1889 AND ALSO THE NEW HOUSING THAT IS CLOSE TO THE OASIS BOULEVARD. EVERYTHING FROM SIX 24 HAS TO GO BACK TO SIXTY NINE.

THERE IS NO WAY FOR IT TO GO UPHILL TO SIX TWENTY FOUR.

SO WE'RE WE'RE STUCK WITH THIS PROBLEM AND HERE IT IS, WHERE IT CROSSES ACROSS SIXTY NINE STILL AND DROPS DOWN CITY LIMITS COURSES UNDERNEATH THE ROAD, GOING A SEVERAL HUNDRED FEET BEFORE IT TURNS SOUTH AGAIN TO COUNTY ROAD.

44 CONTINUING SOUTH ON THIS ROAD.

SIXTY NINE.

YOU CAN RUN INTO COUNTY ROAD 44.

ON THE RIGHT HAND OF THE STREET IS THE COUNTY ROAD.

SIXTY NINE AND FORTY FOUR INTERSECTION WITH A HIGH PRESSURE UNDERGROUND GAS PIPELINE.

IT'S NOT TOO FAR FROM THERE, AND YOU WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD JUST CONTINUE ON THIS DITCH. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE HIGH PRESSURE GAS LINE IT WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM DIGGING IT THAT WAY AND GOING UNDERNEATH AND MAKING A STRAIGHT SHOT INSTEAD OF HAVING THIS.

ALL THIS DEBRIS ON THIS L-SHAPE THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR AGES, BUT STILL, IT DOESN'T NEGLECT THE DRAINAGE FROM 1889 THAT COMES ALL THE WAY TO 69 AGAIN THROUGH A DITCH THAT'S FULL OF

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TREES AS WELL.

SO THE NEXT PAGE BASICALLY SHOWS THE EAST SIDE OF THE DITCH AND ALL THE DEBRIS ON IT, AND I BELIEVE THE NEXT PAGE IS THE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DITCH.

YES. AND THAT'S LOOKING BACK TOWARD FARM ROAD 1889, SO TRYING TO SHOW YOU BOTH SIDES OF THAT CROSSING THAT IS JUST FULL OF TREES, GRASS AND DEBRIS, AND THEN OF COURSE, THAT'S THE OTHER SIDE.

THE NEXT PAGE IS THE DITCH ON THE ON THE ON THE WEST SIDE.

COMING FROM 1889, YOU SEE IT'S FULL OF OF TRASH.

AND IT'S IT'S CONSISTENT, IT'S ALL THIS TRASH AND DEBRIS, MUCH LESS THE TREE AND OVERGROWTH. THEN WE FINALLY THE LAST ONE IN THE PICTURES OF THE DITCH IS LOOKING AT IT FROM COUNTY ROAD 44, NEXT TO THE RV PARK, WHICH I BELIEVE IS READ RV PARK.

AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM FROM FORFOR BEFORE IT CROSSES.

WELL, THERE THE DITCH ON 44TH IS CLEAR.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT ALL THE WAY UP TO COUNTY ROAD, FORTY FOR FOUR WERE STILL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.

GRASS OVERGROWTH, TREES AND TRASH DUMPING.

NEXT PAGE IS IS WHERE I LIVE MY HOUSE.

COUNTY ROAD 50, AND YOU CAN SEE ONE OF THE TIMES THAT IT'S BACKED UP, CAUSING FLOODING IN THE FIELDS. THE WATER GOING ACROSS THE ROAD.

AND THEN THE LAST PAGE, OF COURSE, IS LOOKING DOWN THE STREET TOWARDS 69.

SAME THING. IT'S WATER FLOODING THAT DITCHES COMING OVER THE ROAD, GOING INTO PEOPLE'S YARD. THAT THAT DITCH THAT L SHAPED DITCH IS CAUSING ALL THIS BACKUP.

THERE'S NO WAY FOR OUR WATER TO GET OUT UNLESS THAT'S CLEANED OUT AND EVERYBODY'S COMING IN AND CLEANING OUR DITCHES RIGHT WHERE WE'RE AT.

THAT DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

THE DOWNSTREAM PROBLEM HAS BEEN THERE AND NOBODY WANTS TO TAKE ANY ATTENTION TO IT.

IT'S IN ROB STEIN CITY LIMITS.

I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHO'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT? THAT'S MY QUESTION.

WHO'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THIS PROBLEM? CLEAN OUT THE DITCH SO EVERYBODY CAN HAVE WATER RELIEF IN THEIR DITCHES AND NOT FLED THEIR HOMES, WHICH IS ALSO HAPPENING ALREADY OVER IT AT SIESTA LOOP.

THEY'VE BEEN FLOODED FOR REALLY BAD FOR SO MANY YEARS.

THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT ON THAT.

I DON'T KNOW PRECISELY.

BUT IT STILL COMES BACK TO THE SAME PROBLEM.

THEIR THEIR THEIR WATER HAS TO GO TO COUNTY ROADS 69 AND OUT TO 44, DITCH, WHICH IS BACKING UP AND THOSE TREES AND OVERGROWTH AND DUMPING.

NOTHING'S EVER BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.

IT'S BEEN THAT WAY, I ALMOST SAY FOR OVER OVER 50 YEARS, AND I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 43.

SO I'D LIKE SOMEBODY TO STEP UP AND TAKE CARE OF THIS PROBLEM.

I'M TIRED OF HEARING ALL THE EXCUSES.

IT'S IT DOESN'T NEED AN ENGINEER TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

IT JUST NEEDS TO BE CLEANED OUT.

SO NOW TODAY I'M ASKING WHO'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT? SO I JUST I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I WISH THE RULES WERE A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT AND DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, IF IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, YOU GET TO VISIT WITH US AND THEN WE DON'T GET TO SAY ANYTHING BACK.

BUT I HAVE A WAY THAT I THINK WE CAN CREATE A RESPONSE FOR YOU.

I COULD ASK FOR YOUR PATIENCE ONLY IF YOU IN AFTER WE DO ALL OF PUBLIC COMMENT.

THERE'S A GENERAL INFORMATION AGENDA THAT I THINK IF YOU'LL.

MAYBE TAKE A SEAT.

MAYBE WE COULD ADDRESS IT INSIDE OF THERE BECAUSE DRAINAGE AND FLOODING ARE LISTED IN THE AGENDA, JENNY AS PART OF THAT.

SO MAYBE I COULD AT LEAST CREATE SOME DIALOG OR CONVERSATION AND KEEP TO THE RULES.

IF THAT WOULD BE ALL RIGHT WITH YOU.

WELL, IT'S LITERALLY LIKE THE FIRST ONE AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.

OK? GARRETT NELSON TOLD ME THERE HAS BEEN 16 MILLION OR SIX MILLION, I'M SORRY, ALLOTTED FOR DRAINAGE DITCHES AND STUFF.

I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT THE ONLY PROBLEM, BUT I'VE HAD THIS, YOU KNOW, FOR OVER 43 YEARS

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AND IT'S A, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A SMALL SECTION AND COMPARED TO MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE'S, BUT IT'S BACKING EVERYBODY UP AND HE'S TAKING CARE OF.

YEAH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I INVITE YOU TO STAY.

I'M GOING TO MOVE ON.

I HAVE A FEW.

WHAT LOOKS LIKE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX FOLKS KIND OF ON THE SAME TOPIC, SO I'M GOING TO KEEP YOU GUYS TOGETHER AND I'D CALL ON BETTY SHEETS NEXT.

FOLLOWED BY RONNIE BAKER.

YOU'LL BE AFTER MISS SHEETS.

GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, THANK YOU IN THE COMMISSIONERS FOR BEING HERE.

GOOD MORNING. I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING THE BINGO HALLS.

I HAVE A CHARITY. IT'S CALLED CORPUS CHRISTI BOYS FOR LIFE.

WE TAKE CARE OF THE MOTHERS AND BABIES THE YOUNG GIRLS ARE TRYING TO ABORT.

WE TRY TO SAVE THESE BABIES.

WE'VE BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL.

THIS GOES BACK TO THE ABORTION DAYS WITH BISHOP RECEIPT AND REX MOSES.

IT'S BEEN THAT MANY YEARS WE'VE DONE THIS.

I ASK YOU TODAY TO HELP US.

THE BINGO HALLS WERE NOT MAKING ANY MONEY.

WE HAVEN'T HAD MONEY IN ALMOST THREE YEARS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER WE CAN GO ON.

I KNOW YOU ALL CAN'T HELP, BUT IF YOU CAN PUT SOME KIND OF REGULATIONS ON THESE GAMES OR HELP US IN SOME WAY TO GET OUR MONEY, WE USED TO HAVE THE MONEY COMING IN AND IT REALLY DID HELP US A LOT.

BUT WE NEED YOUR HELP.

WE REALLY DO.

I HOPE YOU HEAR US AND DO SOMETHING FOR US TO HELP THESE GIRLS.

THANK YOU. SHE'S WITH ME.

SHE HAS A CHARITY, PEGGY, TO RUN FROM KINGSVILLE, TEXAS, AND I REPRESENT PITHANI EDUCATION FOUNDATION.

WE ALSO HAVE A ROTARY IN KINGSVILLE.

THEY GIVE SCHOLARSHIPS.

EVERY HAS IN THE PAST GIVEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT IN SCHOLARSHIPS, AND WE'RE ALL BEING AFFECTED. SO HOPE YOU WOULD JUST CONSIDER US.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

UM. MARGARET BALDWIN, I'M SORRY, RONNIE, I HAD ALREADY CALLED YOU SORRY, RONNIE.

PLEASE, PLEASE PROCEED.

MARGARET, YOU'LL FOLLOW.

WOW. WE JUST KEEP COMING BACK, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, GOOD MORNING, MORNING.

WE'RE BACK, I'M BACK BECAUSE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE'VE REPEATEDLY ASKED FOR SOME TYPE OF REGULATORY PROCESS THAT WOULD REGULATE OR PRIORITIZE HELPING THE CHARITIES COMPETE AGAINST WHAT WE CONSIDER ILLEGAL GAME ROOMS. THIS PAST MEETING, WE WALKED AWAY.

I SHOWED A A STATUTE OR A REGULATION THAT CAME OUT OF BELL COUNTY THAT DID NOT REQUIRE EITHER THE SHERIFF OR THE POLICE CHIEF TO BE INVOLVED.

IT FELL ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND JUDGE, I'LL GO BACK TO SOME OF YOUR CORRESPONDENTS WHERE WE LOOKED AT PRIORITIZING PERMITS AND MAKING IT VERY ONEROUS TO HAVE A GAME ROOM AND NOT FOLLOW CERTAIN REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE TITLE OF THE THE AGENDA AND I CALL IT KIND OF THE DISAPPOINTING AGENDA BECAUSE WHEN WE LEFT THE MEETING LAST TIME, WE WERE VERY CONFIDENT BASED ON THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE THAT SOME TYPE OF REGULATION WOULD BE PRESENTED.

TODAY, I'M I LISTEN TO THIS GENTLEMAN AND I LISTENED TO COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, ASK FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS TO COME UP AND DEAL WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL.

AND I LOOK AROUND AND I DON'T SEE SHERIFF HOOPER.

I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, MRS. DORSEY, SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, ASKING, HEY, ARE WE, ARE WE ON BOARD WITH A REGULATION? AND SHE SAID YES.

SHE SAID THE SHERIFF IS SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE MEETING ON THE 26TH TO PRESENT SOME TYPE OF REGULATION THAT WOULD CREATE A PERMITTING PROCESS TO STOP THE PROLIFERATION OF WHAT WE CONSIDER TO BE UNREGULATED, ILLEGAL GAME ROOMS. AND I'M I'M SLIGHTLY SUSPECT I HAVE.

I HAD A CAREER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND I'VE DONE A FEW OTHER THINGS.

BUT MOST RECENTLY IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION ON SOUTH STAPLES.

THERE'S A NEW GAME ROOM AND THERE'S A FOUR BY SIX POSTER ADVERTISING A PERSON THAT'S RUNNING FOR A POSITION HERE IN CORPUS CHRISTI.

AND I FIND THAT KIND OF INTERESTING.

I WONDER IF WE LOOKED AT WHO OWNS THE GAME ROOMS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT BASED ON THE

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NEWSPAPER ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT, THEY REACHED OUT.

THEY GOT NO COMMENT AS FAR AS WHO OWNS THE GAME ROOMS. WHERE DOES THE MONEY GO VERSUS CHARITABLE BINGO, WHICH WE KNOW WHERE ALL THE MONEY GOES? THERE'S A LADY THAT'S GOING TO SPEAK AFTER ME THAT'S GOING TO SHOW YOU THE EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR THAT COMES INTO CHARITABLE BINGO.

BOTH THE BOTH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY GET A PERCENTAGE OF THEY GET NOTHING FROM THE GAME ROOMS. I PROMISE YOU THAT.

I GUESS WE'LL STOP COMING WHEN ALL THE BINGO HALLS HAVE GONE AWAY.

BUT ONCE AGAIN, WHERE IS SHERIFF HOOPER AND I'M GOING TO LEAVE YOU ON THIS? WE WERE AT A MEETING SIX MONTHS AGO AND SHERIFF HOOPER CAME TO THOSE MEETINGS, DILIGENTLY VOICED CONCERN AND SAID AND SAID TO EVERYBODY IN THE MEETING, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I'LL DO.

I WILL GO OUT.

I WILL PERSONALLY INVESTIGATE AND RAID ONE OF THE GAME ROOMS TO SEE WHAT RIPPLE EFFECT THAT IT HAS AND IT NEVER HAPPENED.

AND SO MY QUESTION IS WHY SHERIFF HOOPER AND WHERE ARE YOU TODAY? I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

PLEASE HELP US SAVE THE CHARITIES BECAUSE AS I SAID TO MARGARET, I SAID, I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THE NATIONAL LITTLE LEAGUE IN.

WHOO HOO! MISS DORSEY SAID HER KIDS PLAYED BASEBALL FOR AND COME IN WITH A HUNDRED KIDS AND SAY, WE GET SHOES AND UNIFORMS FROM CHARITABLE BINGO.

WHAT DO YOU GET FROM GAME ROOMS, GUYS? THANKS. MISS MARGARET BALDWIN.

SO HE NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING.

I WISH I HAD AN AGENDA ITEM WHERE WE COULD ADDRESS YOU, I CAN ONLY TELL YOU BECAUSE WE CANNOT ADDRESS YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO, OUT OF RESPECT, LET EVERYBODY FINISH.

AND THEN I'M GOING TO, UM, HAVE SOMEBODY FROM MY OFFICE COME OUT AND.

JUST SHARE SOMETHING WITH YOU.

GO AHEAD. JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, WE JUST ASKED FOR ACCOUNTABILITY ACROSS THE BOARD. WE ARE ASKING FOR REGULATIONS JUST LIKE THE BINGO HALLS ARE REGULATED.

YESTERDAY WAS MY DEADLINE TO GET MY QUARTERLY REPORTS DONE FOR THE STATE, WHICH ALSO GIVES INFORMATION TO THE COUNTY AND TO THE CITY.

AND I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE IT SHORT AND GIVE YOU SOME FIGURES.

I JUST PUT IN THE MAIL YESTERDAY A PACKET THAT WILL COME TO THE COUNTY FOR FIVE BINGO HALLS THAT THEY WILL GET FIFTY ONE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS.

IS THERE PART WHICH IS TWENTY FIVE PERCENT AND THE CITY WILL GET THE SAME AMOUNT? WE ARE MAKING THESE THESE PRIZE FEES.

THEY'RE NOT DONATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO PAY TO Y'ALL.

YET THE CHARITIES AREN'T GETTING THEIR MONEY.

THEY'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT BEING ABLE TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO THEM TO HAVE ENOUGH TO MAKE DISTRIBUTIONS TO THEM.

WE ASK THAT IF WE ARE EXPECTED TO DO THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL GET THE MONEY, WE ARE IN THE SAME BOAT ASKING THAT WE HAVE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY ON YOURS AND THAT WE HAVE SOME KIND OF ORDINANCE, SOME KIND OF DOCUMENTATION FROM THE GAME ROOMS. LET'S SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THEIR MONEY.

THE QUARTER REPORTS THAT I PRESENT TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW MUCH IS BROUGHT IN, HOW MUCH IS GIVEN OUT, HOW MUCH IS SPENT, HOW MUCH IS EMPLOYEES, HOW MUCH IS DISTRIBUTED.

THERE'S THERE'S WE HAVE TO BALANCE WITHIN ONE DOLLAR.

WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO Y'ALL, TO THE STATE.

WE ASK THAT THE GAME ROOMS BE ACCOUNTABLE IN THE SAME MANNER SO THAT WE CAN HELP EACH ONE OF THE CHARITIES THAT WE ARE REPRESENTATIVE WE REPRESENT.

I CAN'T EVEN GUESS HOW MANY THAT ARE IN NEW ACIS COUNTY.

I THINK THERE IS OVER A HUNDRED OF THEM THAT WE REPRESENT.

BINGO HALLS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO CALL ON KATHLEEN WHITE.

WE DON'T BELIEVE SHE WAS ABLE TO MAKE IT.

OK, NO WORRIES, WE'LL MOVE ON, THIS ONE IS A LITTLE HARDER FOR ME TO READ, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE EDUARDO OR EDWARD.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS ONE DOESN'T HAVE AN ITEM NUMBER, SO I MADE AN ASSUMPTION HE WAS WITH YOUR GROUP. EDUARDO DEPUTY, WOULD YOU CHECK? OK. LET ME JUST MOVE ON TO NICK.

IS IT PELOSI? GOOD MORNING, SIR. THE COMMISSIONERS, I'M NICK COLOSSI,

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LIVE DE LA PLATA.

WE'VE BEEN HEARING SOME OF THE BUSINESS OF WHERE THE MONEY IS NOT BEING GIVEN TO THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE IT GOES FOR US.

I REPRESENT THE CORPUS CHRISTI COUNCIL OF THE NAVY LEAGUE OF THE UNITED STATES.

IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE WOULD RECEIVE APPROXIMATELY 10 TO 15000 A QUARTER TO DISTRIBUTE IN THE PAST YEAR OR TWO YEARS.

WE'VE HAD $500 WHERE OUR MONEY GOES.

WE PROVIDE THE TOTAL FUNDING FOR FOUR HIGH SCHOOL ROTC PROGRAMS HERE IN THE CITY.

WE PAY FOR EVERYTHING.

ONE OF THOSE SCHOOLS IS A NATIONAL CHAMPION DRILL TEAM.

WE ALSO PROVIDE SCHOLARSHIPS TO EITHER COLLEGES OR TRADE SCHOOLS TO THESE STUDENTS FOR THE AIR SHOW THAT COMES EVERY TWO YEARS.

WE PROVIDE ALL THE MEALS FOR ALL THE VOLUNTEERS.

THERE'S A SAILOR OF THE YEAR PROGRAM AND SCHOLAR OF THE QUARTER.

GETTING THIS WOULD GIVE POINTS TOWARDS THE PROMOTION OF THE ENLISTED.

WE WOULD PICK UP THE BILL FOR THE PLAQUES, FOR THE MEALS, FOR THE CEREMONY.

THIS HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED BECAUSE THE NAVY CAN'T AFFORD IT EITHER.

WE PROVIDE TICKETS FOR THE JUNIOR ENLISTED TO THE MARINE CORPS AND NAVY BIRTHDAY PARTIES.

THESE ARE GIVEN TO THE JUNIOR ENLISTED WHO NORMALLY CANNOT AFFORD A FULL DRESS, MILITARY DINNER DANCE. WE GOT TICKETS.

NO QUESTIONS ASKED.

YOU JUST SAY TO YOUR CHIEF OR YOUR GUNNERY SERGEANT, I NEED A TICKET AND WE JUST GIVE IT TO THEM. WE ALSO SUPPORT THE MWI, WHICH IS MORALE, WELFARE AND RECREATION ON THE BASE.

RECENTLY, THEY HAD A SNOW FESTIVAL.

THEY TOOK A TON OF ICE TUBES, FED THEM THROUGH A TREE SHREDDER TO PROVIDE SNOW FOR THE KIDS IN CORPUS CHRISTI.

WE HELP PAY FOR ALL OF THAT.

WE HAVE BEEN WITH THE PRODUCTION AND MONEY WOULD HAVE BEEN EITHER CUTTING BACK SEVERELY.

WE'VE BEEN LIVING ON OUR RESERVES AND OUR CHECKBOOK IS GETTING THIN.

WITHOUT YOUR HELP, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DISCONTINUE, IF NOT SEVERELY REDUCE EVERY ONE OF THESE PROGRAMS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I SEE NOBODY ONLINE WITH AN ICONIC HAND UP, BUT I WILL DO A DOUBLE CHECK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, CONNIE.

I SEE NOBODY DEPUTY.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY OUT THERE? I'LL CALL ONCE MORE FOR EDUARDO AND I DO APOLOGIZE.

I JUST IT LOOKS LIKE WATERLOO FOR AN AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU.

OH MY GOSH.

YOU HAVE A YOU HAVE A SIGNATURE LIKE LIKE A DOCTOR.

IT IS. IT'S ERICA CANALES.

YEAH. I'M SORRY, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A FULL PRESENTATION SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIGN UP ON PUBLIC COMMENT.

OK, BUT THANK YOU.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS. I JUST DIDN'T RECOGNIZE AND I SHOULD.

IT'S MY SAME LAST NAME, RIGHT? OK, SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS IS ALLOW THE OPPORTUNITY FOR TWO THINGS TO HAPPEN.

ONE IS A QUICK OPPORTUNITY FOR FOR US TO TALK ABOUT GENERAL INFORMATION, WHICH DOES INCLUDE FLOODING AND DRAINAGE, AND IT'S ACTUALLY LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS DO THE QUICK EXCEPTION OF THE MINUTES AND GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT TO COME BACK TO RESOLUTIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS EVERYBODY.

BUT I WILL TAKE ONE RIGHT THIS MOMENT.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF JANUARY? TWENTY FOUR TWENTY TWENTY TWO? YES. DO I HAVE A MOTION? THANK YOU ALL.

OK. WHO DID THE MOTION? I THOUGHT I HEARD A MOTION. ALL RIGHT, I'LL TAKE IT.

I'LL DO THE MOTION A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I BUY.

OK. AND COMMISSIONER GONZALES.

JUDGE, COULD I JUST SAY THAT I MIGHT DO A PUBLIC COMMENT REAL QUICK? CAN I DO THAT REAL QUICK? OR SOMETHING THERE? IS IT ON THE AGENDA? NO, IT'S JUST I CAN'T RESPOND TO THEM, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

THAT'S WHERE I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE COULD DO THAT.

I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GET THERE.

I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY IN PUBLIC COMMENT, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY IN PUBLIC COMMENT THAT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO PLACE THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY AND ASK THE SHERIFF TO BE HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.

AND WITH IN REGARDS TO THE GAME ROOM ORDINANCE AND BECAUSE WE WE NEED TO DO, WE NEED TO MAKE SOME SORT OF SOMETHING ON THIS AND I KNOW ALL THE GAME ROOM PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SHOW UP TO. SO TO GIVE EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY SIT DOWN AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE ORDINANCE IS OR WHAT IT ISN'T.

WE JUST NEED TO, IN MY OPINION, JUST NEED TO KIND OF VOTE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

NO, I'M TALKING TO YOU.

I'M JUST SAYING I'D LIKE TO WRITE.

I JUST LIKE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

I'M JUST ASKING TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA.

NO, I'M JUST ASKING IT. BE PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR FEBRUARY TWENTY SIX.

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I MEAN, I AGREE WITH THE SHERIFF BEING HERE TO PRESENT WHATEVER HIS RECOMMENDED ORDINANCE OR IF HE DOESN'T RECOMMEND, THAT'S FINE TOO, JUST WHATEVER THE RECOMMENDATION IS.

I CAN GO TELL THEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

CALL THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.

I'M GOING TO PASS THE GAVEL FOR JUST FIVE SECONDS, NOT FIVE SECONDS.

BUT YEAH, IT'S PROBABLY FIVE SECONDS.

NO. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ IS GOING TO ANNOUNCE OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH WILL BE OUR GENERAL INFORMATION TO GET MY TEAM READY.

I'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

JUST ONE MINUTE. SO GOING TO GENERAL INFORMATION REPORTS, NO ONE DISCUSSED DISASTER

[1. Discuss disaster preparedness and response, including matters related to COVID-19, Emergency Orders, severe weather, flooding, drainage, economic recovery, state and federal assistance, American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA), Emergency Rental Assistance Program (ERAP), and infrastructure status, and other related matters.]

PREPAREDNESS AND RESPONSE, INCLUDING MATTERS RELATED TO COVID 19 EMERGENCY ORDERS, SEVERE WEATHER, FLOODING, DRAINAGE, ECONOMIC RECOVERY, STATE AND FEDERAL ASSISTANCE, AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT OR FOR EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

AND INFRASTRUCTURE STATUS AND OTHER RELATED MATTERS.

AND I GUESS TO DO THE REPORT IS.

MR. MAKE YOU FORGET IN YOUR NAME.

CURTIS RAY LEWIS, RAY LEWIS, RAY LOUIS BREAK, BILLY RAY.

OK, SO CLOSE, WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE DRAINAGE FIRST WITH THE ONE HE WANTED TO GO.

OH, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? I'M SORRY, THE MICROPHONE.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE DRAINAGE PORTION FIRST COMMISSIONER AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK WITH THE DISASTER PREPAREDNESS AND KOBE.

ALL RIGHT. GOT IT.

COMMISSIONER, GOOD MORNING.

MORNING ONE. THE QUESTION I KNOW.

YES, MR. LAWRENCE. I KNOW THAT HIS AREA IS WITHIN THE CITY OF ROCKS DOWN THE DRAINAGE THAT L-SHAPED DITCH IN REGARDS TO THE COUNTY GOING INTO A CITY OF ROCK SOUND.

PUBLIC WORKS CAN'T GO IN THERE AND DO ANY CLEAN OUT OF THE DITCHES.

WE CAN'T MAINTAIN THOSE DITCHES.

THOSE NEED TO BE DONE BY THE CITY OF ROTHSTEIN.

AND I'LL BE GLADLY TO MEET WITH MR. LAWRENCE REGARDING THE HILLS AREA OR ANY OF THESE AREAS THAT HE KNOWS OF, AND WE NEED TO GO IN THERE AND DO ANY TYPE OF CLEANING OR MOWING.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH HIM AFTER THIS AFTER THIS SESSION AND DISCUSS WITH THEM TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. YOU KNOW WHAT? I KNOW MOST OF IT IS IN ROUGH STONE.

NOT SO MUCH TOO MUCH DISCOUNTING.

IT'S A THE CLEAN AREA.

THEN YOU SEE ROB STONE.

YES, SIR. BUT I I'M JUST THINKING IF THE RECOMMENDATION MAY BE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, COMMISSIONERS HERNANDEZ OR COMMISSIONER MYERS CAN MAYBE DO A PARTNERSHIP WITH ROB STONE AND MAYBE THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT NUMBER TWO.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE DISHES BELONG TO THEM OR NOT, BUT IT COULD BE A PARTNERSHIP THAT WE ACTUALLY WE CAN CLEAN SOME LAST.

I'D BE MORE THAN WILLING TO GO IN THERE AND HELP OUT SEEING THAT ROB STEIN HAS A LITTLE DIFFICULTY THAT YOU HAVE TO BE A LOCAL IN THE LOCAL AGREEMENT COMMISSION.

YEAH, OK. ALL RIGHT, SIR.

AND COMMISSIONERS, ONE THING THAT I JUST WANT TO BRING UP IS THAT THIS IS A REMINDER THAT THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS FOR THESE PURPOSES AND FOR CLEANING OUT DITCHES.

AND AND HOPEFULLY I KNOW I GOT AN EMAIL EARLIER THAT WE HAVE TO GO FOR BIDS FOR THAT, I THINK. SO HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE TO SO WE CAN GET THOSE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT ASAP.

OK, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THE ONES HAVE BEEN APPROVED, THOUGH, WASN'T RIGHT.

YES, BUT I JUST GOT AN EMAIL FROM, I GUESS, FROM HAGERTY SAYING THAT I GUESS WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

SO I ARGUE WITH MICHAEL, AND I SENT AN EMAIL TO MICHAEL REGARDING HOW WE CAN DO TO EXPEDITE THAT. YES, SIR.

AND JERRY GARCIA STILL INVOLVED WITH YOU? YES, SIR. HELPING OUT, RIGHT? YES, SIR. I KNOW HE'S VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE IN THAT AREA.

YES, SIR. YOU'LL BE INVOLVED.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU.

ONE COMMISSIONERS ONE MORNING, SO I WANT TO ADDRESS THE LAST WEEK'S WINTER STORM.

WE STOOD UP THE EOC FOR.

PARTIALLY GUILTY FOR THE COUNTY.

WE HAD EVERYBODY IN PLACE AND READY TO TO EXECUTE IT IF WE NEEDED TO BE.

I CAN BARELY HEAR YOU, LOUIS.

WE HAD EVERYONE IN THE PLACE AND WE WERE READY TO EXECUTE IF NEEDED.

FOR THE LAST WINTER STORM AND LAST WEEK WE STOOD UP R&B RICHARD AND BUSCHER FOR A WARMING CENTER, AND IT WAS A GREAT TEAM UP WITH ROB STEIN.

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I'M GOING TO CALL KATHY UP TO GIVE YOU GUYS THE COVID INFORMATION.

GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

IF YOU WOULD PUT THE POWERPOINT UP, I HAVE BROUGHT TO YOU A POWERPOINT THAT IS A COMBINATION OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS NUECES COUNTY OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO REPORT ON COVID FOR THE REGION AS WELL AS THE TESTING.

SECOND SLIDE, PLEASE.

NUECES COUNTY IS IDENTIFIED 25 CONFIRMED AMARCORD CASES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THE FIRST ONE WAS IDENTIFIED DECEMBER 14TH AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO OFFER VACCINES AND BOOSTERS, AND I HAVE SOME SUPPORTING FACTS OF HOW THAT IS GOING VERY WELL.

THE OMICRON IS MORE CONTAGIOUS THAN DELTA.

THERE IS ALSO SO THAT YOU'RE AWARE THERE'S A B VARIANT THAT'S SHOWING UP IN CERTAIN AREAS THAN IN EUROPE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

IT'S NOT COME TO THE UNITED STATES YET.

AS OF JANUARY 20TH, WE HAD ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY ONE POSITIVE CASES CONFIRMED HERE IN NOYCE'S COUNTY, AND THIS SHOWS YOU THE TREND.

DECEMBER TWENTY FIRST, WE HAD 65 CASES AS A DAILY AVERAGE FOR COVID.

AS OF JANUARY, WE HAVE 824 CASES AS A DAILY AVERAGE, SO OMICRON IS HERE.

AND WE DO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY CLOSE TO THE PEAK, AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TESTING.

HOWEVER, OUR RESOURCES ARE GOING TO BE LIMITED.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

OK. THIS SHOWS JUST A REALLY QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CASES OF COVID, AND YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF CASES THAT WE'VE HAD SINCE THE BEGINNING OF COVID. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS. THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU A BREAKDOWN OF THE JUST THE JANUARY CASES, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A LARGE PERCENTAGE IN CHILDREN.

THE ZERO TO 19 ARE DRISCOLL CHILDREN.

HOSPITAL HAS BEEN INUNDATED WITH CARE AND TREATMENT OF COVID CHILDREN, AND MANY OF THOSE ARE UNDER AGE FOR GETTING ANY TYPE OF VACCINE AT THIS TIME.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

YOU CAN ALSO SEE THIS TREND HERE COME JANUARY 3RD, THE 10TH, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A DOWNFALL IN THE WEEKLY CASES.

SO AS WE HAD PREVIOUSLY PREDICTED IN DECEMBER, WE DID HAVE OUR OUR EXPANSION OF COVID IN JANUARY, AND THAT WAS WHAT WE THOUGHT OUR PEAK WAS GOING TO BE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND THIS IS A DAILY TREND OF THE HOSPITALIZATIONS.

NEXT SLIDE.

THERE WE GO. NO, WE'VE SKIPPED ONE, UH.

MAYBE I SKIPPED ONE, SORRY, CONNIE.

OH YES. HERE'S THE COVID DEATHS.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE THIS OMICRON IS NOT AFFECTING OUR SEVERELY. WE'RE NOT HAVING THE NUMBER OF DEATHS THAT WE HAD WITH DELTA IN THE ORIGINAL COVID VIRUS.

SO WHILE IT IS MORE CONTAGIOUS, WE'VE DONE A BETTER JOB WITH THE VACCINES AND THE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS OF WEARING A MASK AND AND THE SIX FEET OF SEPARATION WE'VE DONE AND CONTINUING TO WASH OUR HANDS HAS HELPED US KEEP THIS NUMBER LOW.

BUT A LOT OF IT IS ATTRIBUTED TO VACCINES BECAUSE THE SYMPTOMS, WHILE THEY'RE GREAT IN SOME PEOPLE, THERE ARE LESSER IN OTHERS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

HERE'S THE HOSPITALIZATIONS.

HOWEVER YOU HAVE YOU CAN SEE HERE THERE'S A TREND OF INCREASING OF HOSPITALIZATIONS AND ICU JUST SINCE THE END OF DECEMBER, AND WE'RE AT A CURRENT RATE OF 199 HOSPITALIZED WITH COVID. AND WE HAVE HAD ALSO HOSPITALS OPENING WINGS FOR ICU.

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SO WE'VE HAD AN EXPANSION OF OUR ICU IN THIS REGION TO TAKE CARE OF PATIENTS REGIONALLY.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

HERE IT SHOWS THAT WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF THE INCREASE IN OUR VACCINATIONS HAS CONTINUED TO GO UP. SO THIS IS A VERY GOOD NUMBER.

NEXT. AND THIS SHOWS THE BOOSTERS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT 30000 BOOSTERS, SO THAT'S THAT CONTINUES TO INCREASE, WHICH IS PROVIDING SOME ADDITIONAL PROTECTION TO OUR CITIZENS.

SO WE DO REQUEST THAT THEY CONTINUE TO DO SO.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS SLIDE DOES SHOW WHERE OUR VACCINATION RATES ARE IMPROVING, OUR RESIDENTS 65 AND OLDER ARE INCREASING AS WELL AS AGED 16 AND OVER.

ALL OF THESE NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED, SO WE'RE DOING WELL, ESPECIALLY THE 65 AND OLDER, WHICH TENDS TO BE HAVE THE HARDEST TIME OF RECOVERY WHEN THEY DO GET COVID.

SO IT SHOWS THAT WE ARE GETTING OUR MESSAGE OUT AND DOING A GOOD JOB OF THAT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

OK, SORRY, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT SMALL FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, BUT COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, IT DOES SHOW WHERE WE HAD.

IN DECEMBER, EARLY DECEMBER OF TWENTY TWENTY ONE, WE WERE ONLY TESTING ABOUT 20 PEOPLE A DAY AND THEN YOU SEE WHERE WE HAD THE SURGE.

DECEMBER 27TH THROUGH DECEMBER 30TH AND THIS WAS DURING THE TIME PERIOD WHEN THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI WAS CLOSED.

SO OUR SECTION CHIEF OF OPERATIONS EDWARD HERRERA DID A FABULOUS JOB OF PULLING OUT ALL THE STOPS.

AND IN A IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, WE DID A THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT TESTS AND IT WAS IT HAD A 33 PERCENT POSITIVITY RATE.

AND THEN IN TWO DAYS AFTER THAT, WE HAD ANOTHER THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TESTS.

AND YOU SEE HERE WHERE THE INCREASE IN POSITIVITY RATE WAS 43 PERCENT.

WE'VE ALSO DONE SOME INDEPENDENT TESTING IN ROB'S TOWN, AND IF YOU DROP DOWN TO SEE JANUARY 15TH, YOU CAN SEE A JUMP IN THE POSITIVITY RATE TO BE FIFTY FIVE POINT THREE PERCENT. SO YOU'RE HAVING OUT OF THOSE.

AND WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS IS OF ALL THE PEOPLE YOU'VE TESTED, OVER HALF OF THEM ARE COVID POSITIVE.

AND THAT SHOWS A TREND OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN YOUR POPULATION, AND THIS ISN'T EVEN WHAT I WOULD SAY, TOTALLY ACCURATE, BECAUSE THINK OF HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE THAT ARE TAKING THE AT HOME COVID TESTS THAT AREN'T EVEN REPORTING THEIR RESULTS.

SO THERE'S A LOT MORE POSITIVES OUT THERE THAN WHAT WE'RE SEEING.

AND IF YOU JUMP TO JANUARY 19TH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A FORTY NINE POINT ONE PERCENT POSITIVITY RATE.

YOU DO START SEEING A TREND HERE ON THE 19TH OF OUR NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN AS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE APPEARING FOR TESTING.

BUT IF YOU LOOK ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, PORT ARANSAS, WE DID A A TESTING LAST WEEK, WE DID TESTING IN PUERTO REIGNS'S AND IT HAD WE ONLY DID 127 TESTS THERE, WHICH WAS A GOOD NUMBER AND IT HAD 41 PERCENT POSITIVITY RATE, WHICH MAKES OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT BELIEVE THAT PERHAPS PORT A IS A LITTLE BEHIND THE PEAK, SO WE MAY SEE SOME INCREASES.

WE'RE DOING A WE'RE SCHEDULING A ADDITIONAL TESTING IN PORT A ON FRIDAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE POSITIVITY RATE LOOKS LIKE ON FRIDAY.

AND HERE, IF YOU LOOK ON JANUARY 22ND, WE HAVE A 59 POINT FIVE PERCENT POSITIVITY RATE.

THAT'S A 60 PERCENT POSITIVITY RATE.

SO WHILE OUR TESTING NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN, OUR POSITIVITY RATE IS GOING UP.

SO EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE DILIGENT IN WHEN THEY'RE OUT IN PUBLIC.

AND AS YOU SEE DOWN HERE ON JANUARY TWENTY FIFTH, WHICH WAS YESTERDAY WE AT MEMORIAL, WE HAD 307 PEOPLE APPEAR FOR TESTING, WHICH TO ME SHOWS A VERY SIGNIFICANCE THAT WE ARE GETTING CLOSE TO OUR PEAK BECAUSE YOU CAN TELL BY THE TESTING NUMBERS.

AND HOWEVER, JUST SO EVERYONE IS AWARE OUR RESOURCES FOR TESTING HAVE BECOME LIMITED BECAUSE THESE LARGE NUMBER OF TESTS THAT WE'RE DOING AT THIS TIME, IT'S IT'S CAUSING ISSUES WITH GETTING SUPPLIES.

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IT'S IT'S THESE TESTS ARE VERY HIGH COST.

SO IT'S VERY WHILE WE'RE TAKING CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND MEETING THE NEEDS AND KEEPING COVID AT BAY AND KEEPING IT ON THE RUN.

BECAUSE ALL OF THIS IS NEEDED FOR AWARENESS SO THAT THESE PEOPLE THAT TEST POSITIVE CAN QUARANTINE SO THAT WE CAN REDUCE THE SPREAD OF COVID.

AND THAT'S THE KEY.

SO WE JUST HAVE TO BE VERY DILIGENT MOVING FORWARD AS THE RESOURCES, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO IMAGINE THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES IN THE WORLD ARE ALL WANTING THESE SAME SUPPLIES AND THESE SAME TESTS BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING ISSUES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AT THIS TIME.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT THIS WEEK'S TESTING SCHEDULE IS, WE'RE DOING MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY AT THE MEMORIAL CHRISTOPHER MEMORIAL HOSPITAL AND THEN FRIDAY, AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, 10:00 TO 3:00.

WE ARE HAVING TESTING AT PORT ARANSAS TODAY.

WE HAVE TESTING AT RICHARD AND HAUCHARD FAIRGROUNDS.

IT IS FROM 9:00 A.M.

TODAY TO 5:00 P.M.

AND A SPECIAL THANKS TO SPECTRA, WHO IS PROVIDING US ACCESS TO SOME INDOOR SPACE THERE AT NO COST BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW TIGHT OUR BUDGETS ARE RIGHT NOW AND THEY'RE TRYING TO HELP US OUT. SO THEIR TEAM IS IS WORKING WITH US TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT AND ADDITIONAL COVER BECAUSE OUT THERE IN ROB'S TOWN, THOSE WINDS GET HIGH THIS TIME OF YEAR, SO IT'S REALLY HARD FOR THEM TO TEST OUTSIDE.

SO IT'S PASSING BY THE EXHIBIT HALL B AND THEY'RE DOING THE TESTING IN THE CAR AS THEY HAVE BEEN AT ALL TESTING SITES.

SO THIS IS A SPECIAL THANKS TO SPECTRA, AS THEY WERE ALSO VERY SUPPORTIVE DURING OUR MASS. NO MASS CARE ON THIS PAST WEEK, THEY WERE VERY ELEMENTARY IN HELPING US WITH THAT AND ALMOST ODD COMMUNITY CENTER DOES ROBERTTOWN AND HERE IN THE.

AND THIS IS A WEEKLY THING THAT THEY DO EVERY TUESDAY AND THURSDAY ON THE SIDE TESTS AT THEIR LOCATIONS.

SO IF YOU IF YOU ARE AN AMAZON PATIENT OR NOT AN AMISTAD PATIENT, YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL THERE AND GET A TEST TAKEN AND IT'S A DRIVE THRU TEST.

YOU MAKE AN APPOINTMENT AND THEY COME OUT TO YOUR CAR.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF OF WHAT YOU THE CRITERIA FOR CDC IS FOR COVID TESTING AND EXPOSURE THAT HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT OVER TIME.

NEXT. WE ARE STILL WAITING, WAITING TO RECEIVE THE MODEL MONOCLONAL ANTIBODIES.

WE'VE NOT RECEIVED ANY AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WE HAD 500 ORDERED.

AND WE'VE ALSO PLACED AN ADDITIONAL ORDER TO THE STATE FOR A STAR REQUEST FOR ANOTHER FIVE HUNDRED AND NEITHER OF THOSE ORDERS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED.

THIS IS THIS DRUG IS VERY HARD TO COME BY NEXT.

THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE COVID VACCINATION CLINICS.

WE STILL HAVE THEM AT LA PALMER MALL IS PROBABLY OUR OUR HIGHEST NUMBER OF VACCINES ON A WEEKLY AND DAILY BASIS.

IT'S EASY ACCESS AND PROVIDES GREAT CARE.

SO A SPECIAL THANKS TO A JOINT OPERATION WITH THE MILITARY, THE NUECES COUNTY, AS WELL AS THE CORPUS CHRISTI NOYES COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH DISTRICT ON LAP AMEERA.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THESE ARE OUTDOOR COVID CLINICS.

THIS IS IN QSR LEGACY, THE FALLIS PARKING LOT IN THE GOODWILL STORE, AND THOSE ARE IN UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES.

SO THOSE ARE VERY IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THOSE YOU CAN WALK UP OR DRIVE UP TO THOSE. THANK YOU.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND HERE ARE SOME SCHOOLS FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE SCHOOL CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE TO FILL OUT THOSE FORMS AND GIVE YOUR APPROVAL FOR VACCINES BECAUSE THEY'LL HAVE THOSE CLINICS AT THESE FOLLOWING SCHOOLS.

THANK YOU. NEXT SLIDE.

AND THE LAST AND FINAL MESSAGE THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU.

PLEASE CONTINUE IN COMBINATION WITH GETTING VACCINES.

WEAR YOUR MASK IN CONGREGATE SETTINGS.

KEEP YOUR HOME AND OFFICES WELL VENTILATED.

STAY AT HOME IF YOU ARE SICK, ANY KIND OF SICK? PLEASE STAY HOME BECAUSE IT'S VERY HARD TO TELL ON OMICRON WHAT YOUR SYMPTOMS ARE.

IF IT'S A COLD, IF IT'S A SINUS INFECTION.

SO UNTIL YOU'RE TESTED, IT'S VERY HARD TO DIAGNOSE OMICRON.

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PLEASE GET TESTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE IF YOU BELIEVE YOU HAVE COVID.

WASH YOUR HANDS OFTEN AND WE RECOMMEND IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN VACCINATED, PLEASE DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT? AND AS YOU SEE, WE HAVE LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR VACCINATION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. OK. TELL US ALL ABOUT THIS, BEEN VACCINATED AND TERRY, I'VE BEEN VACCINATED AND BUT TO GET. HE CAN'T HEAR YOU IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE.

OK. SORRY. ALL THESE THE PLACES TO GO AND GET TESTED AND AND WE'VE SIGNED UP THROUGH THE INTERNET TO GET SOME THE TEST KITS OURSELVES.

BUT WHAT WHAT DOES IT TAKE? AND EVIDENTLY, WE CAN'T GO TO OUR GENERAL PRACTITIONER BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE YOU. SO WHERE DO YOU GO AFTER YOU'VE TESTED POSITIVE? WE HAVE NUECES COUNTY AND THE PUBLIC HEALTH DISTRICT SUPPORT AMISTAD COVID CLINIC, AND THE COVID CLINIC CAN SEE YOU.

YOU CAN CALL THE COVID CLINIC.

NO. I CAN GIVE THAT TO YOU, SIR.

I DON'T HAVE IT READILY AVAILABLE.

IT'S THREE SIX ONE EIGHT TWO SIX.

IS IT EIGHT ZERO ONE NINE? I BELIEVE SO, I THINK THAT'S THAT'S IN MY HEAD.

I BELIEVE SO, CALL THAT NUMBER AND THEY WILL MAKE YOU AN APPOINTMENT TO GET CARE AND TREATMENT FOR COVID, AND THEY DO IT VIA PHONE VIA A PHONE CALL.

SO THEREFORE YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO IN.

THEY CAN CALL YOU IN IF THEY NEED SOME ADDITIONAL WORK DONE ON.

THE STOJKOVIC CLINIC CAN ALSO PROVIDE AT HOME LABS DRAWN.

THEY CAN ALSO, IF THEY DEEM THAT YOU NEED A CHEST X-RAY OR AN X-RAY OF SOME SORT, THEY CAN HAVE A PORTABLE X-RAY COMPANY COME OUT AND GIVE YOU A PORTABLE X-RAY.

AND THIS IS ALL SUPPORTED BY AN OASIS COUNTY, AND THAT WAS THE CORRECT NUMBER.

IT'S THREE SIX ONE FOR THOSE OF YOU LISTENING EIGHT TWO SIX EIGHT ZERO ONE NINE THAT WAS THE RIGHT NUMBER, AND IT'S ALL FREE, AND THAT IS A REALLY GOOD RESOURCE FOR LAB FOR MEDICAL. THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT REALLY HAVE SEEN COVID SINCE THE BEGINNING.

THESE HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS AND THOSE PEOPLE DECIDE WHETHER IF YOU GO INTO THE HALL, THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT.

AND WHAT ARE MORE OF THE SYMPTOMS OTHER THAN BEING BEING TESTED THAT YOU TEST POSITIVE AT WHAT LIMIT YOU KNOW OF OF YOUR HEALTH? DO YOU GO INTO THE HOSPITAL? WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU GET AN O2 STAT MONITOR AND YOU PUT THAT ON YOUR FINGER AND LOOK AT YOUR O2 SAT RATES.

THAT'S THE KEY THING TO YOU NEED TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THOSE TWO SET RATES STAY ABOVE NINETY TWO.

OKAY, BUT NOT WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHEN YOU GET CARE AND TREATMENT.

THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO FOR FOR THAT THE DOCTORS, LIKE AN AMAZON, CAN DO FOR YOU TO KEEP YOU AT HOME RATHER THAN PUT YOU AT THE IN THE HOSPITAL.

AT THAT POINT, EVEN IF YOU'RE O2 SATS DROP.

DON'T THINK THAT YOU IMMEDIATELY HAVE TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL, BUT IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANY CARE AND TREATMENT FROM A PHYSICIAN AND YOUR O2 SATS DROP BELOW 92, THEN YOU NEED TO CALL A PHYSICIAN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE OR GO TO E.R..

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO MY DAUGHTER, SHE WENT.

SO CAN WE? COULD YOU ALL? WAS THERE BE A POSSIBLE? MAYBE Y'ALL COULD TALK OFFLINE BECAUSE I DON'T MEAN TO BE RUDE, BUT THERE'S WE'VE GOT TO GET GOING. THIS IS KIND OF NORMALLY HOW NOT HOW WE DO IT.

WOULD THAT BE ALL RIGHT? I MEAN, SHE'LL ANSWER ANYTHING YOU WANT ANYWHERE YOU WANT.

SHE'S GOT A LOT OF I'M SURE SHE WILL.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'M SORRY. OKAY. NO, NO WORRIES.

IT'S ALL GOOD PUBLIC INFORMATION.

ANYWAY, YOU JUST HAVE TO ADDRESS IT TO US, CATHY.

THAT'S. YES, MA'AM. OK, SO LOOK, I'M GOING TO PIVOT HERE BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME OTHER IMPORTANT PIECES INSIDE.

YOU'VE GIVEN A GREAT SLIDE DECK HERE, AND I'M GOING TO ENCOURAGE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS TO SHARE THE SLIDE DECK IN ANY WAY THAT IT CAN BE HELPFUL TO PUBLIC MESSAGING.

BUT I'M GOING TO PIVOT REAL QUICK.

LIKE MARIA BETHEA IS ONLINE, SHE WANTS TO JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT ABOUT ERAP BECAUSE SOMETHING IMPORTANT HAPPENED THIS PAST WEEK, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY.

AND THAT'S OUR EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

MARIA, WILL YOU TELL US? AND THEN I'LL PIVOT STRAIGHT TO DRAINAGE AND FLOODING.

GO AHEAD. YES.

SO GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.

I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT OBVIOUSLY.

A PRESS RELEASE WENT OUT EARLIER THIS WEEK FROM THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI THAT THEY HAVE CLOSED THEIR EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE APP ON MY APPLICATION TO NEW APPLICATIONS.

THEY'RE STILL PROCESSING THE ONES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED, BUT I WANT TO ASSURE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT THE COUNTY'S PROGRAM IS STILL UP AND RUNNING SO RESIDENTS

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CAN STILL GO TO NEW FACES.

COUNTY ERAP AND APPLICATIONS WILL STILL BE ACCEPTED.

WE HAVE ALREADY DISTRIBUTED ABOUT SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND IN RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE. WE HAVE ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINE THOUSAND IN APPLICATIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY PENDING, BUT THAT STILL LEAVES THE COUNTY ABOUT EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND TO EXPEND BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT YEAR OR SO.

AGAIN, IT'S RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE.

OUR PORTAL IS STILL OPEN.

WE ARE STILL ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS.

SO I WANTED TO REASSURE THE COURT THAT WE STILL HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO DISTRIBUTE TO RESIDENTS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS OF CORPUS CHRISTI.

YEAH. THANKS, MARIA.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET US MAYBE LIKE A LITTLE ONE PAGER THAT YOU CAN ALSO SEND OUT TO YOUR CONSTITUENCY.

I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

I DON'T WANT THEM TO CONFUSE THE FACT THAT THE CITY IS CLOSING THEIR FUNDS WITH THOSE FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THOSE LIVING, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE THE CITY JURISDICTION.

AND OK, SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GETTING A COMPREHENSIVE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OVERVIEW HERE.

THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT EMERGENCIES WE'RE REACTING TO AND FLOODING AND DRAINAGE IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THEM FROM THE MAY AND THE JULY FLOODS.

THAT IS WHY IT'S LISTED HERE.

AND ALTHOUGH I DO THINK WE CAN HAVE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE.

DISCUSSION OFFLINE, AND I'M GOING TO ENCOURAGE THAT TO HAPPEN.

REST ASSURED THAT THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU BROUGHT TO US, WHICH I THINK SOMEONE JUST, YOU KNOW, HERE THEY ARE. I'M GOING TO ASK JUST FOR SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, LOUIS RAY, JUST TO RAISE YOUR HAND.

AND LAWRENCE, YOU'RE MR. BURKE IN YOURS.

I'M GOING TO HAND TO HIM RIGHT NOW.

OK, SO HE IS OUR GARRETT WAS OUR INTERIM EMERGENCY MANAGER.

LOUIS HAS JUST COME ON.

HE IS OUR PERMANENT ONES AND WE NOW HAVE A PERMANENT EMERGENCY MANAGER.

AND REST ASSURED, ALL YOUR INFORMATION AND ALL CITIZENS INFORMATION REGARDING FLOODING AND DRAINAGE DOES.

IT MIGHT START AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, BUT WE DO SEND IT TO PUBLIC WORKS.

AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN DOING WITH THE AID OF ALL COURT MEMBERS IS WE'VE BEEN HAVING THESE DRAINAGE WORKSHOPS AND WE ALSO HAVE A FULL BLOWN AND I KNOW YOU SAID WE DON'T NEED ENGINEERS AND YOU'RE RIGHT FOR MAINTENANCE, BUT WE'RE DOING BOTH.

WE'RE BOTH DOING THE ENGINEERING STUDY WITH THE THREE COUNTIES THAT WILL HELP US FOR EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS FOR OUR FUTURE AND DESIGNING THE RIGHT TYPES OF REMEDIATED EFFORTS, INCLUDING DETENTION PONDS.

BUT IN THE SHORT TERM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS RESULTED FROM THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH YOU IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH A RFP THAT WILL BE RELEASED VERY SOON FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION WORK.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S NEEDED.

I WILL SAY THAT THE PHOTOS AND THE PARTICULARLY THE ENVIRONMENTAL PIECES, THE OLD MATTRESSES AND THE TIRES, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE THINK THAT WE COULD ADDRESS IMMEDIATELY AND LUIS NOW SHAKING HIS HEAD.

AND SO THAT MEANS HE'S ON IT WITH PUBLIC WORKS.

YOU MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN IT, BUT HE WAS STANDING RIGHT TO YOUR RIGHT EARLIER.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT YOU'RE RIGHT.

YOU NEED BOTH.

I THINK WE NEED BOTH.

AND THAT'S WHAT OUR OFFICE HAS BEEN CONDUCTING IS.

WE FIGURED OUT THAT WE'VE GOT FUNDS THAT COULD BE UTILIZED IF THE COURT WISHES IT OR WILLS IT, AND IT'S MONUMENTAL FUNDS CALLED THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT.

AND THOSE FUNDS COULD BE DEDICATED IN PART TO A MAINTENANCE, A COUNTYWIDE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION CONTRACT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON TO ESTABLISH.

BUT. IN THE SHORT TERM, MY HOPE IS, IS THAT FLOODING AND DRAINAGE ISSUES LIKE THE ONES YOU'VE BROUGHT UP THAT WERE IDENTIFIED.

THIS SUMMER CAN BE ADDRESSED ON A REAL PINPOINTED EFFORT THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS, BUT ON THE LONG HAUL. WHAT WE'RE WHAT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

AND AGAIN, I GO BACK TO THE FLOODING BECAUSE THAT IS THE DISASTER THAT GIVES RISE TO THIS AGENDA ITEM. WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY PURSUING IS A COUNTYWIDE M.A.

CONTRACT TO BRING TO COURT FOR HOPEFUL APPROPRIATION AND AUTHORITY TO SAY GO THAT WHICH IS IN THE ROBERTTOWN CITY LIMITS.

I THINK, MR. RAY, IF YOU WILL VISIT WITH MR. FURQAN, WE CAN CONTACT THAT PARTICULAR DRAINAGE DISTRICT AND SEE IF THEY CAN ALSO PINPOINT THAT SPECIFIC RESOLUTION FOR THAT.

WHAT'S INSIDE THEIR LIMITS? BUT I DO WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME ENCOURAGEMENT THAT NOT ONLY DID WE TAKE THAT AFTERNOON WHERE GARRETT WENT OUT AND VISITED WITH YOU SERIOUSLY, IT'S RESULTED IN SOMETHING REALLY

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IMPORTANT. IT'S JUST THERE'S SO MANY PROCESSES TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S COMPETITIVE.

LEE PROCURED AND WRITTEN UP CORRECTLY AND AND THEN WE'VE GOT TO GET THE COURT TO APPROPRIATE THE DOLLARS.

BUT I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY GONE A LONG WAY TO, I HOPE, HELP THE COURT UNDERSTAND THAT THESE DOLLARS WOULD BE WELL SPENT.

AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT JUST THAT YOUR AREA, IT IS COUNTY WIDE AND IT IS MAINTENANCE.

IT'S NOT ENGINEERING, IT'S JUST MAINTENANCE.

IT'S JUST VEGETATION MAINTENANCE AND OLD JUNK THAT ARE BLOCKING THE WAY FOR THE FLUID TO FLOW IN THIS CASE, WATER.

AND THEN ON TOP OF ALL OF THAT, EVEN IF IT WERE TO FLOW WITH EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS, WE NEED TO ENGINEER OURSELVES BETTER PATHWAYS.

SO I FEEL LIKE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS DOING BOTH IN RESPONSE TO THE FLOODS OF MAY AND JULY. BUT IT WAS YOUR CONVERSATION THAT REALLY TOOK US INTO A WHOLE DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

AND SO WITH THAT? THAT'S THE THAT'S THE BEST WAY I CAN RESPOND LEGALLY AT THIS MOMENT, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK IF LOUIS WILL VISIT WITH YOU.

AND AND I KNOW HE WAS HERE EARLIER, BUT THERE'S OBVIOUS THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE TO REMEDIATE FUTURE FLOODING.

AND THAT'S TAKE OUT ALL THAT OLD JUNK.

AND I THINK I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST AND IT NEEDS TO BE DONE IMMEDIATELY.

BUT THERE'S A THERE IS A BETTER AND BIGGER AND MORE IMPROVED PLAN AFOOT, AND IT REALLY IS GOING TO HAPPEN, I BELIEVE.

EXCUSE ME, JUDGE. YES, SIR.

MR. FERNANDES, I'VE GOTTEN TOGETHER WITH PUBLIC WORKS.

YES, SIR. WE'VE MADE PLANS WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WHAT WE CALL A TYRANT ROUNDUP, AND THAT'S TO GET ALL THE TIRES OUT OF DITCHES AND COLLECT TIRES AND TAKE THEM TO THE FAR YARD.

AND THEN WE GOT A COURT, NOT A CONTRACT, BUT AN AGREEMENT WITH A TIRE COMPANY.

THEY'RE GOING TO COME AND HAUL THEM UP.

THEY'RE GOING TO COME AND HAUL THEM OFF FOR US.

SO WE'RE WE'RE STARTING WITH THAT, SIR.

AND WELL, METRICS WON'T GO TO THE TIRE PLACE, BUT BUT THEY WILL GO BE PICKED UP AND WAY OFF TRACK HERE, JUDGE. I DON'T MEAN TO BE RUDE.

I MEAN, WE'RE WAY OFF TRACK IF THIS IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

I I I'VE KEPT MINE IN THE LANE OF FLOODING.

I MEAN, WELL, I'VE KEPT IT IN THE LANE OF OF ADDRESSING HOW THE COUNTY IS ADDRESSING THE TWO DISASTERS THAT WE HAVE WITH FLOODING.

I AGREE THAT THE TIRE ROUNDUP IS IS OFF, BUT I STILL THINK IT'S GOOD.

IT'S IN THE SAME LANE. I MEAN, I KNOW I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'M JUST.

AT ANY RATE, IF MR. RAY VIEW WOULD HELP THAT WAY, WE COULD MOVE ON.

OK, THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THAT.

SO WITH THE IRAQ, THE FLOODS.

YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR MORE ABOUT ARPA AND OTHER AGENDA ITEMS, AND SO AS WELL AS WINTER STORM URI, SO I THINK WE'LL JUST MOVE ON AT THIS POINT AND GO BACK IN TIME TO DECLARING SOME OF THE PROCLAMATIONS THAT WE HAVE.

AND I'LL ASK BELINDA.

WE'VE GOT ONE RESOLUTION AND ONE CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION, AND LET'S PROCEED WITH THOSE F ONE AND G ONE.

SO WE DO HAVE ONE RESOLUTION AND IT DEALS WITH A VISION ZERO, WHICH IS A A MULTINATIONAL ROAD TRAFFIC ROAD TRAFFIC SAFETY PROJECT THAT AIMS TO ACHIEVE A HIGHWAY SYSTEM WITH NO FATALITIES OR SERIOUS INJURIES INVOLVING ROAD TRAFFIC.

SO I'LL GO FORWARD AND READ THAT RESOLUTION.

WHEREAS VISION ZERO IS A STRATEGY TO ELIMINATE ALL TRAFFIC FATALITIES AND SEVERE INJURIES, STARTING WITH THE ETHICAL BELIEF THAT EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO MOVE SAFELY IN THEIR COMMUNITIES WHILE INCREASING SAFE, HEALTHY, EQUITABLE MOBILITY FOR ALL.

AND WHEREAS THE VISION ZERO RECOGNIZES THAT TRAFFIC DEATHS ARE PREVENTABLE THROUGH PRIORITIZATION OF PROVEN SAFETY STRATEGIES, MULTI DEPARTMENTAL COLLABORATION TOWARD THE SHARED GOAL OF ZERO, A FOCUS ON DATA DRIVEN DECISION MAKING AND A SYSTEMS BASED APPROACH.

WHEREAS THE COUNTY SUPPORTS THE VISION ZERO SAFE SYSTEMS APPROACH STRATEGY AND IS COMMITTED TO THE IMPLEMENTATION FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL NOISELESS COUNTY PROVIDING FOR INCREASED SAFE HEALTH AND EQUITABLE MOBILITY FOR ITS CITIZENS, COMMUTERS AND TOURISTS.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF NOISES DECLARES NUECES COUNTY AS A VISION ZERO COMMUNITY AND REAFFIRMS ITS COMMITMENT TO SAVE LIVES AND DECREASE ROADWAY AND WATERWAY ACCIDENTS.

THE MOVED MOTION IN A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, I I, I THANK YOU.

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THERE'S MORE TO THAT VISION ZERO.

I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THE MPO TEXT DOT THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI.

WE'RE ALL IN THIS MOTION OF REALLY WORKING TOWARDS THESE PUBLIC SAFETY TRANSPORTATION INITIATIVES. AND MAYBE LATER IN TIME, WE'LL HAVE A MUCH MORE COMPREHENSIVE RESOLUTION PRESENTATION FROM FROM THE MPO, BUT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

LET'S DO THE RECOGNITION AT THIS TIME.

[1. In recognition of Ruth Dominguez for exemplary work related to County Tuition Reimbursement Program, presented by program recipient.]

WE HAVE ALSO, I BELIEVE ANGELA LUNA WAS HERE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS, BUT IT'S IN RECOGNITION OF ANGELA.

WAS YOURS IN RECOGNITION? I'M SORRY, WERE YOUR COMMENTS ON ONE? OK, PLEASE PROCEED.

GOOD MORNING, YOUR HONOR. GOOD MORNING.

UM, I'M JUST HERE.

UH, TO RECOGNIZE.

UM? RUTH DOMINGUES, I RECENTLY WENT BACK TO SCHOOL AT SAM HOUSTON STATE UNIVERSITY, WHICH IS ONE OF THE LARGEST AND MOST PRESTIGIOUS CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROGRAM TO ASSIST WITH MY CAREER IN JUVENILE JUSTICE WITH VICTIMS IN THE JUVENILE JUSTICE CENTER.

SO I ACHIEVED MY MASTER'S OF SCIENCE IN VICTIM SERVICE MANAGEMENT, AND IT'S THE ONLY MASTER'S PROGRAM IN THE NATION RIGHT NOW THAT IS SOLELY ADDRESSED FOR VICTIM SERVICES.

I WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS WITHOUT THE HELP FROM THE COUNTY IN THE TUITION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I WENT BACK IN JANUARY 20 20 RIGHT BEFORE THE WORLD WENT CRAZY, AND TO GO BACK TO COLLEGE IS ALREADY CRAZY ENOUGH.

BUT TO DO IT IN THAT TIME IS IS A BIG STRUGGLE AND I WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO DO IT WITHOUT RUTH DOMINGUES.

NOT ONLY WHAT SHE'S SO ACCOUNTABLE FOR MY GRADES BECAUSE YOU ARE, YOU ARE GIVEN YOUR MONEY BACK BASED ON YOUR GRADE POINT.

NOT ONLY WAS SHE SO ACCOUNTABLE, I WAS SO WORRIED NOT TO GET AN A FOR RUTH, BUT SHE WAS ALSO ENCOURAGING AND CALM AND JUST THAT BASIC SUPPORT.

SO BASICALLY, I GOT A MASTERS AND HOW TO BE AN ADVOCATE, AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT I COULD TRULY RECOGNIZE THAT RUTH DOMINGUES IS SUCH AN ADVOCATE FOR HER EMPLOYEES HERE AT NOYCE'S COUNTY, AND I WANTED TO THANK HER FOR THAT.

NOW, WHEN YOU GRADUATE, THERE'S A STOL OF GRATITUDE, AND THE TRADITION IS, IS THAT YOU WEAR THIS ROLE AND YOU CROSS THE STAGE WITH IT, AND THEN YOU PRESENT THAT TO SOMEBODY WHO IS ASSISTED YOU IN THAT GRADUATION.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO TODAY.

I WANT TO PRESENT MY STYLE OF GRATITUDE TO RUTH DOMINGUES, AND IT DOES COME WITH A CERTIFICATE. HOW WONDERFUL.

RUTH. ALL RIGHT.

AND IF YOU LET ME, I'D LIKE TO READ.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU.

LET IT LET IT BE KNOWN THAT RUTH DOMINGO'S DURING THE COURSE OF MY STUDY, BESTOWED THE SUPPORT AND UNDERSTANDING WITHOUT WHICH MY GRADUATION WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE.

THIS CERTIFICATE IS HEREBY CONFERRED TO HONOR AND RECOGNIZE THE CONFIDENCE, GUIDANCE, WISDOM AND ASSISTANCE FREELY GIVEN HELPING ME TO ATTAIN THIS IMPORTANT MILESTONE IN MY LIFE. I THANK YOU FROM MY HEART.

ANGELA. ANGELA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR RECOGNIZING ONE OF OUR OWN, RUTH DOMINGUEZ.

RUTH, THANKS FOR DOING YOUR JOB ABOVE AND BEYOND.

AND IT REALLY SHOWS WHAT AN IMPACT YOU CAN MAKE ON SOMEBODY'S LIFE.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS? I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING IT'S IT'S A GREAT JOY TO TO HELP THESE STUDENTS IN THIS.

LAST FALL, WE HAD EIGHT PARTICIPANTS AND IT WAS IT WAS LIKE ONE OF OUR BIGGEST, YOU KNOW, SEMESTERS.

AND RIGHT NOW FOR THIS UPCOMING SPRING, WE ALREADY HAVE SIX SO FAR ENROLLED.

SO IT'S JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN JUVENILE, THEY'RE REALLY SIGNING UP THERE AND EVERYBODY'S GETTING THEIR MASTERS.

SO IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM, A GREAT BENEFIT THAT THE COUNTY OFFERS, AND IT WAS ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO TALK TO ANGELA.

YOU KNOW, SHE WAS GOING THROUGH A LOT AND OUR CONVERSATIONS, YOU KNOW, JUST MAKING SURE SHE GOT ALL HER PAPERWORK IN AND EVERYTHING.

BUT I KNOW SHE WORKED REALLY HARD.

BUT THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, BOTH OF YOU, LADIES.

AND WE WERE JUST COMMENTING ABOUT A WEEK AGO HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO RESTORE OUR EMPLOYEE

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OF THE MONTH PROGRAM.

AND IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT OFFICIAL WITH MY CERTIFICATE, IT'S VERY CLEAR, RUTH, THAT YOU ARE THE JANUARY TWENTY TWENTY TWO EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, BOTH OF YOU, LADIES.

THANK YOU TO H.R.

FOR BRINGING THIS AGENDA ITEM FORWARD.

NO ACTION, JUST A LOT OF GOOD PRAISE AND FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO BOARD

[1. Nueces County Animal Services Advisory Committee]

APPOINTMENTS AND IF YOU'LL TAKE A LOOK, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW AND THE FIRST IN YOUR NOTEBOOK IS J ONE, AND THAT'S THE ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

I'LL REFER TO BELINDA SO THAT SHE COULD LET US KNOW WHO IS AVAILABLE FOR REAPPOINTMENT OR WHO IS AVAILABLE FOR APPOINTMENT, AND THEN WE'LL MAKE OUR MOTIONS GO AHEAD.

SO THE VACANCY YOU'LL HAVE FOR ANIMAL SERVICES WAS THE VETERINARY POSITION, AND WE FINALLY GOT A VET TO APPLY.

SO FOR WE OFFER DR.

BARBARA LYNN WHITLOCK, WHO WHO APPLIED FOR THIS POSITION.

ALL RIGHT, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

OK, GO AHEAD, BRANT.

ALL RIGHT, HE'LL TAKE THE SECOND.

WE'RE SO GRATEFUL TO DR.

WHITLOCK FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR HER TO SERVE.

WE'VE BEEN WAITING A WHILE FOR A VETERINARIAN AND THIS IS REALLY GOING TO MAKE A MAJOR DIFFERENCE IF THERE'S ANY.

THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I.

OKAY. IN ITEM NUMBER TWO, WE'VE GOT THE BEACH MANAGEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

[2. Nueces County Beach Management Advisory Committee]

SCOTT CROSS WAS HERE EARLIER, BUT GO AHEAD.

SO YOU YOU HAD A THREE POSITIONS THAT WERE COMING TO A CLOSE AT THE END OF DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR IN ONE VACANCY.

YOU DID RECEIVE THREE OF YOUR, I GUESS, LETTERS OF INTENT TO TO BE REAPPOINTED, WHICH IS GABBY HILL PULLED L.J.

FRANCIS AND FREDERICK FREDERICK DOTS.

AND THEN YOU HAD THE ONE VACANCY THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY HELD BY TARA GILLESPIE.

IN ADDITION TO THOSE REQUESTS FOR REAPPOINTMENT, YOU ALSO RECEIVED APPLICATIONS FROM SHELLY WITCHER, DON BISSELL IN FLORES, TESSA JUDGE.

I WOULD NOMINATE SHELLY WITCHER.

SHE IS HAS BEEN ON BEFORE AND SOMEHOW IT THERE WAS A DESCRIPTION ON THERE, BUT SHE IS ALSO FROM PUERTO REIGNS'S AND WE HAVE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY REPRESENTATION FROM PUERTO RAMSI'S. SO ONLY ONE OPENING.

YEAH, BUT THERE'S AND THERE'S THREE REALLY GOOD APPLICANTS, BUT WE REALLY NEED SOME PORT ARANSAS REPRESENTATIVE REPRESENTATION ON THIS TOO, AND THAT WOULD BE MY NOMINATION.

AND I THINK THERE COULD BE OTHERS, SO IF YOU COULD HOLD THESE OTHER TWO, BECAUSE I WAS, YES, I CAN TAKE THE.

IT WOULD. COULD YOU TAKE THE MOTION AND THEN GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE THOSE THAT HAVE SUBMITTED? I WOULD MOVE.

I WOULD MOVE REAPPOINTMENT.

THE APPOINTMENT OF SHELLY WHITAKER.

SO IT'LL BE FOR LJ FRANCIS.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM, YES.

THE APPOINTMENTS WOULD BE GABRIELLE HILL PULLED LJ FRANCIS AND FREDERICK DOT'S.

AND THEN I WOULD AND THEN POINT THOSE AND THEN TO A POINT, SHELLY WITTER AND PLEASE HOLD THOSE OTHER TWO THAT WE HAVEN'T WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY FOR A WHILE.

SO I'M GLAD WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME MORE AND I THINK THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER VACANCY COMING.

AND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, I'M GOING TO SECOND THAT.

BUT I ALSO WANTED TO SAY MAYBE WE COULD PURSUE THIS AT THE TIME THAT L.J.

SERVED. HE WAS NOT A COUNTY EMPLOYEE.

HE'S NOW ONE OF OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES, IS AN ENGINEER.

HE MIGHT BE WILLING TO YIELD, GIVEN THAT HE HAS A DIFFERENT ROLE.

I LOVE HIM BEING ON THERE.

WELL, I DO, TOO. I JUST SO I MEAN.

WELL, THAT'S TRUE, TOO.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HE'S I GUESS HE STILL HAD THE LETTER OF INTENT.

CAN WE UTILIZE HIM, THOUGH, IN AN EX-OFFICIAL CAPACITY? I MEAN, THE LEVEL THAT HE IS IN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO ME COMMANDS THAT HE BE AN INTRICATE PART OF THIS COMMITTEE.

SO I THINK WE WOULD STILL HAVE HIM AND IN ALL THE SERVICE THAT HE DOES, AND I KNOW HE'S IN SOME REALLY HIGH PRIORITY PUBLICIZED POSITIONS THAT COMPLEMENT BEING ON BEACH MANAGEMENT, BUT WE COULD GET SOMEBODY ELSE TO BE APPOINTED IN THERE AND STILL USE HIM AS AN EMPLOYEE. RIGHT.

I HATE TO BUMP HIM OUT, BUT I THINK IF WE ACKNOWLEDGE TO HIM LOOK IS NOT BUMPING YOU OUT, IT'S WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO USE YOU.

BUT BY THE WAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU HERE WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT AN APPOINTMENT OR REAPPOINTMENT AND LET'S AND LET'S CONTINUE TO USE YOU.

I WOULD THINK THAT MAKES MORE SENSE.

I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE WITH DOING THAT AS A COMMISSIONER TO THE VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE MANY. WELL, I'LL TELL YOU, I'LL TELL YOU THIS.

I'M NOT COMFORTABLE PUTTING A STAFF MEMBER IN A POSITION LIKE THAT.

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HE HE HIS POSITION, HIS KNOWLEDGE, HIS EXPERTIZE, HIS VOTE.

NO, IT'S GOING TO BE.

I DON'T WANT TO KICK OFF.

CAN I FINISH? YEAH, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY APOLOGIES.

PLEASE GO AHEAD. I'M JUST SAYING I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH ANY STAFF MEMBER WHO HAS A POSITION OF AUTHORITY AND RESPONSIBILITY, AS LG DOES.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT LG.

LIKE I SAID, I WANT YOU TO KEEP HIM.

THE POSITIONS THAT HE IS APPOINTED TO ON THE REGIONAL AND STATE LEVEL ARE PHENOMENAL.

WE WE HAVE A HOME RUN BY HAVING HIM AS AN EMPLOYEE.

I'M SAYING, LET'S PUT HIM IN A POSITION THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE WHIMS OF THIS COURT OR ANY FUTURE COURT.

AND AS LONG AS HE IS IN A POSITION WITH NOYCE'S COUNTY, HE WILL HAVE AN INFLUENCE AND A PART OF BEACH MANAGEMENT.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

I THINK THAT THAT CAN BE DONE IF WE MAKE HIM AN EX-OFFICIAL POSITION AND THEN ALLOW US ANOTHER FREE POSITION.

WOULDN'T YOU LIKE TO BE ABLE TO APPOINT SOMEONE ADDITIONAL FROM PORT ARANSAS OR SOMEONE ELSE THAT HAS INTEREST? AND BY OPENING UP AN EXTRA SLOT? AND THEN, BY THE WAY, WE STILL KEEP LG AND STILL WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE HIM.

THAT'S THAT'S ON SUGGESTION.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. COMMISSIONER, YOU SAY THERE WOULD BE NO TERM, NO TERM LIMITS FOR LG THEN, RIGHT? RIGHT. IF HE'S AN EX-OFFICIO, THEN HE'S ON THERE AS LONG AS HE IS BASICALLY THE NUMBER TWO ENGINEER FOR AN OASIS COUNTY, WHICH HE IS RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING HE IS AT SUCH A HIGH POSITION WITH US.

HE'S ALREADY GOING TO BE DOING WORK BY NATURE OF THE WORK THAT HE DOES FOR US AS A COUNTY. HE'S ALREADY GOING TO BE DOING THAT.

SO IT'S ALMOST KIND OF DOUBLE DIPPING.

SO WHY? WHY DO WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THAT? AND THAT'S IT. MUDDLED IT UP.

LET'S LET HIM BE THERE AS LONG AS HE WANTS, AS LONG AS HE'S AN EMPLOYEE, HE'S GOING TO BE IN THAT POSITION. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

AND IT'S A GOOD POINT, AND I THINK IT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED IN IN A DIFFERENT WAY BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, HE IS THE ONLY ENGINEER ON THIS COMMITTEE THAT IS A VITAL ROLE.

HAVING A VOTING MEMBER, AS AN ENGINEER, AS A VITAL ROLE.

WE DON'T HAVE AN ALTERNATE AS AN ENGINEER.

THERE WILL BE A THERE WILL BE, I BELIEVE, VERY SOON AN OPEN SPOT TO PUT ANOTHER ONE OF THESE PEOPLE IN THERE.

ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO IS CURRENTLY NOT SHOWING UP.

AND SO I'M JUST ASKING THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH HOW IT IS.

HE'S THE ONLY ENGINEER WE HAVE ON THIS COMMITTEE.

THAT IS A VITAL ROLE ON THE COMMITTEE.

WE HAVE QUORUM PROBLEMS. SOMETIMES WITH THIS COMMITTEE.

WE'VE HAD QUORUM PROBLEMS. HE WILL DEFINITELY NOT BE A QUORUM PROBLEM.

SO I'M JUST SAYING I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT THIS WAY FOR NOW.

I BELIEVE THERE WILL BE POSSIBLY AS SOON AS THE NEXT MEETING WHENEVER THAT'S TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A VACANCY THAT WILL BE COMING UP, NOT THE NEXT ONE.

THAT'S NEXT WEEK, BUT VERY SOON, AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO PUT ONE OF THESE OTHER VERY TALENTED PEOPLE IN THERE.

SO I REALLY WANT TO KEEP AN ENGINEER ON THIS COMMITTEE.

AND I THINK HAVING SOMEONE ON STAFF THAT HAS TO THAT HAS TO GO AND WE DON'T, WE KNOW, WILL SHOW UP AND WE KNOW IS A QUALITY IS ALSO A VERY POSITIVE THING.

SO I WOULD REALLY I REALLY THINK IT'S A MISTAKE TO TAKE AN ENGINEER OFF THE BACK WHEN WE DON'T. IT'S NOT A MISTAKE TO TAKE HIM OFF.

HE WOULD BE THERE IN A NON-VOTING ROLE ADVISORY.

AND I JUST I'LL TELL YOU, LIKE I SAID, I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH ANYONE WHO IS ON A COUNTY EMPLOYEE WHO SERVES AT A HIGH LEVEL THAT THAT THEN GOES INTO AN ADVISORY POSITION FOR US IN ANY APPOINTMENT.

I HAVE A PHILOSOPHICAL ISSUE WITH THAT.

THAT'S A CONCERN.

I THINK THAT THERE'S A CHAIN OF COMMAND AND INFLUENCE AS FAR AS WHO OUR EMPLOYEES ARE AND HOW HOW THOSE THOSE DECISIONS CAN COME INDEPENDENTLY.

I THINK THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THAT.

ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS NOT ABOUT L.J..

HE IS IN A TREMENDOUS ROLE WITH THE STATE THAT WE CANNOT LET GO.

I'M JUST SAYING, HEY, LET'S TRY TO OPEN UP THE PROCESS AND BRING IN MORE PEOPLE.

BUT BUT I'VE SAID ENOUGH.

I'VE SHARED MY CONCERNS.

I'M NOT GOING TO STAND IN THE WAY OF IT, BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE I THINK THIS SETS A BAD PRECEDENT.

WONDERING, I'M WONDERING WHAT WE COULD DO IS MAYBE PUT THAT FORWARD AS A POLICY GOING FORWARD BECAUSE AT THIS TIME, WE DON'T HAVE THAT AS A POLICY.

I, I AGREE.

I AGREE. LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO STAND IN THE WAY OF L.J.

AND I DON'T WANT HIM TO THINK I DON'T APPRECIATE HIM BECAUSE HIS RESUME IS IMPECCABLE.

I KNOW HE DOES. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF SCOTT, HERE HE IS.

SCOTT CROSS IS HERE.

AND YEAH.

LET ME LET ME CHIME IN HERE.

I JUST I ACTUALLY AGREE 100 PERCENT WHICH COMMISSIONER MODEST.

THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR ME WITH ANY BOARD THAT WE HAVE WHERE WE HAVE EMPLOYEE SITTING ON. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS RENDERED THEIR OPINION THAT IT'S OK.

BUT I DO AGREE WITH WHERE MY THIS IS.

MY THING IS, IS THAT WITH THIS BLACK BOARD, WE HAVE STRUGGLED SO HARD WITH CURRENT

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MEMBERS, LJ BEING ONE OF THEM ABOUT MAKING THESE MEETINGS A PRIORITY.

AND I HAVE TOLD MEGAN, I SAID WE ARE CRACKING DOWN HARD ON THE ATTENDANCE POLICY THAT'S IN THE BYLAWS YOU MISS.

THREE. EXECUTIVE MEETINGS AND WE CAN COME TO THIS COURT AND WE CAN RECOMMEND WITHOUT YOUR APPROVAL THAT YOU GET REMOVED BECAUSE THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING ON THESE PERMITS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT.

IT'S LEGALLY BINDING AS WELL.

ONCE WE EXECUTE THAT AND THE FACT THAT THIS COURT WAS LED TO BELIEVE YEARS AGO WHEN DOING PERMITTING FELL UNDER PUBLIC WORKS, THAT YOU HAD TO HAVE AN ENGINEER, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE AN ENGINEER. THERE'S NOTHING IN A TEXAS NATURAL RESOURCE CODE OR THE BEACH AND DUNE RULES THAT SAY YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT JUST WANT TO SET THAT RECORD STRAIGHT RIGHT NOW.

THERE IS NO OTHER DUNE PERMITTING FACTION UP AND DOWN THE TEXAS COAST WHERE THEY HAVE A PEA THAT'S VETTING THE THE APPLICATIONS.

WE HAVE TO FOLLOW STRICT STATE GUIDELINES UNDER THE TEXAS NATURAL RESOURCE CODE.

THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE IS NOT GOING TO LET US DEVIATE OUT OF THAT LANE WITH THESE MEMBERS IF IT DOESN'T COMPLY WITH THE NATURAL RESOURCES CODE.

SO MY MY BIG TAKEAWAY HERE IS THEY'VE GOT TO START MAKING THE MEETINGS AND IT'S GOT TO BE A PRIORITY IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COUNTY EMPLOYEE ON THERE AND THEY HAVE A CONFLICT WITH THEIR DEPARTMENT AND THEIR DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? NO, THIS BACK MEETING SUPERSEDES WHATEVER I WAS GOING TO TASK YOU TO DO.

WE'VE GOT TO GET THESE QUORUMS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN MISSING TOO MANY.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE TO STAND IN FRONT OF A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR DEVELOPER WITH AN APPLICATION AND YOU HAVE TO SAY, SORRY, WE'VE GOT TO POSTPONE THE MEETING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM. THAT'S EMBARRASSING AS HELL, AND IT'S HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES.

I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST IN ORDER A TO MOVE ON FOR EFFICIENCY AND ALSO TO ACHIEVE MAYBE A GOOD GOAL IS COMMISSIONER CHESNEY.

WOULD YOU BE INCLINED MAYBE TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MEETING LITERALLY.

NEXT WEEK, COULD WE MAYBE TODAY REVISE, CONSIDER.

I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TWO TO CONSIDER REVISING TO APPROVE B MAC.

LETTERS OF INTEREST FOR FORGIVE ME, IT WAS FRED DOTS, IT WAS GABBY, GABBY HIPPEL, THE CHAIR, AND THEN THE RE AND THEN YES, AND THEN COULD WE DO A SECOND PREFERENCE AND THEN ASK OR JUST LEAVE IT OPEN ON THE SPOT TILL NEXT WEEK? SCOTT, YOU DO NOT HAVE A MEETING BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT WEEK.

DO YOU KNOW HE'S A HOLDOVER ANYWAY? JUDGE, UNTIL WE END, HE'S A HOLDOVER.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT. AND HOLDOVERS CAN GO MONTH TO MONTH.

AND THEN WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT AGAIN OFTEN.

I'M FINE WITH THAT, BUT BUT I REALLY I'M FINE WITH THAT FOR THE PURPOSES OF MOVING ON BECAUSE BUT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO SCOTT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE AN ENGINEER ON THAT COMMITTEE. YOU MAY NOT, AND THAT'S OK.

WE CAN DISAGREE. I DON'T THINK IT'S I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS A REQUIREMENT.

I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

THAT'S WHY WE PUT HIM ON THERE OR WHY.

ONE OF THE REASONS I PUT HIM ON THERE WHEN WE PUT HIM ON THERE WAS I WANTED AN ENGINEER ON THAT B. I AGREE WITH YOUR VALUE OF THAT RIGHT? AND THAT'S THE VALUE, NOT A REQUIREMENT.

SO I STILL AM GOING TO HAVE THAT VALUE NEXT WEEK, RIGHT? AND IF ANY OF THEM ARE NOT MAKING MEETINGS, THEN THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE ONLY ONE.

AND THERE'S ONE.

YES, THERE'S ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT NEEDS TO BE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. SOME OF THEM JUST FADED OFF BY ROTATED OFF, WHICH SOLVED OUR PROBLEMS. I THINK I'M GOING TO ASK YOU GUYS TO WORK THIS OFFLINE WITH OUR COURT ADMINISTRATOR IF SOMEBODY IS MYSTERY MEETINGS.

I WOULD WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT TO, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE HAVE SOME JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THE CANDIDATES HERE ARE UBER QUALIFIED AND I WOULD AMEND MY MOTION AND HOLD ON THE OTHER. I WON'T.

I WILL NOT CHANGE MY POSITION ON IT.

I UNDERSTAND. BUT TO BE FAIR TO COMMISSIONER MONIZ AND OTHERS, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.

BUT I WOULDN'T MAKE THE MOTION THAN THE AMENDED MOTION TO APPOINT.

GABY HILL PULLED AGAIN AGAIN FRED DODSON TO TO THEN APPOINT SHELLEY, WHICH ARE CORRECT AND THEN WILL HOLD ON THE FOURTH.

YES, MA'AM. AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH THIS BELINDA ON NEXT COURT'S AGENDA ON FEBRUARY 2ND AND I'LL TAKE THAT AND I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OK, THE NEXT ONE BELINDA WILL NEED TO SKIP BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY WHO

[3. Christus Spohn Board of Trustees]

APPLIED. WE DID HAVE SOMEONE WHO APPLIED, BUT THEY MISSED IT BY THE MISSED THE DEADLINE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO REOPEN IT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE GO AHEAD AND WILL AUTHORIZE THE REOPENING THROUGH FEBRUARY 16.

THIS IS FOR THE SPINE HEALTH BOARD OF TRUSTEES WE MISSED.

SO IS THAT FEBRUARY 16 16? IS THAT A VACANCY? IT'S A VACANCY DUE TO TERM OUT.

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AND WHO'S TERMED OUT TONY? MR. LAMONT. OK, SO THEN WE NEED TO.

WE NEED TO. THAT'S A REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.

THEY'RE ALL IMPORTANT. THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT GROUP TO BE A PART OF.

CAN YOU OPEN? CAN YOU MAKE A MOTION TO REOPEN TO THE 16TH, THE 6TH OR NO, THE TWENTY THIRD NOW, BECAUSE I'M SO SORRY, SIXTEEN TO SIXTY WOULD HEAR IT ON THE 23RD.

YES, I'M SORRY. RIGHT? CORRECT.

AND WE DID RECEIVE.

YEAH, OK, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I HI.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO THE ESD NUMBER THREE.

IT'S ITEM NUMBER FOUR, FOLLOWED BY ESD NUMBER SIX.

[4. Nueces County Emergency Service District #3]

SO YOU HAD ONE THAT WAS GETTING READY THAT THAT EXPIRED, WHICH IS KARL HILL, AND HE REAPPLIED. ALL RIGHT, IS THERE A MOTION TO TO REAPPOINT MR. CARL HILL? ALL RIGHT.

MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE ESD NUMBER SIX.

[5. Nueces County Emergency Service District #6]

SO WE HAVE A LETTER OF RESIGNATION THERE AND AN APPLICATION THAT'S SYNCRUDE RESIGNED.

AND SO YOU DID RECEIVE AN APPLICATION FOR MARY BROWN.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS WOULD BE FOR AN UNEXPIRED TERM.

SO IT WOULD JUST BE THROUGH THE END OF THIS YEAR, RIGHT THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE SUSAN'S POSITION TERMED OUT.

SO IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE MISS BROWN SECOND, SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I HI.

OK, HOW ABOUT WE'LL CONTINUE ON TO THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD, WHERE WE ALSO HAVE SOME

[6. Nueces County Library Advisory Board]

APPLICATIONS? SO YOU HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THEM, YOU HAVE THAT ACTUALLY ALL OF THEM THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE BOARD ARE GETTING READY TO EXPIRE IN FEBRUARY, AND THEN YOU HAVE TWO VACANCIES THAT EXPIRE AT THE END OF TWENTY TWENTY THREE OF FEBRUARY.

SO YOU DID RECEIVE A LETTER OF INTEREST FROM JOSE ARROWE, AMY ENRIQUEZ, BETTY JEAN LONGORIA AND ROBYN SOTO.

WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY LETTER OF INTEREST FROM JESSICA MCCOMB OR LYNN LYNN CAMACHO, AT LEAST AS OF YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.

AND THEN YOU DO HAVE THOSE TWO VACANCIES.

YOU RECEIVED ONE APPLICANT, TABITHA GREENWOOD.

SO OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE RE APPOINTMENTS AND THEN ALSO REOPEN UNTIL FEBRUARY 16TH.

SO HOW ABOUT THE ONE VACANCY? YOU'RE GOING TO FILL ONE UP AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WITH THE VACANCY OF TABITHA GREENWOOD AND YOUR REAPPOINTMENT? I DON'T HAVE ANY ALL THAT IN MY BACKUP.

I'M SORRY. SO IT'S NOT, UM, IT'S NOT IN MINE AS WELL.

BUT I HAD A COPY AS THEY SENT COME TO MY OFFICE.

BUT COULD YOU JUST REPEAT? SO BASICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE THAT APPLICATION OF MISS BROWN AND THEN ASK THE COURT TO REOPEN FOR THE REMAINING VACANCIES? SO THE APPLICATION OF TABITHA GREENWOOD, I'M SORRY, GREENWOOD.

AND THEN WE ALSO RECEIVED A LETTER OF INTERESTS FOR BASICALLY RE APPLICATIONS FOR JOSE HARO, AMY ENRIQUEZ, BETTY JEAN LONGORIA AND ROBIN SOTO.

A SECOND.

AND ALL. GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.

THERE'LL BE ONLY ONE VACANCY THAT THERE'LL BE ONE VACANCY LEFT AND TWO POSITIONS THAT ARE EXPIRING. OKAY.

OK, SO ALL THOSE IN ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OK, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I HI.

OK. AND NOW WE HAVE NOYCE'S COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH AND INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY.

[7. Nueces County Mental Health and Intellectual Disability Board of Trustees]

IT'S UNDER ITEM SEVEN AND WE'VE GOT ONE TWO THREE FOUR FIVE LETTERS OF INTENT HERE.

AND THOSE ARE ALL RE APPOINTMENTS AND THOSE WERE ALL THE POSITIONS THAT WERE EXPIRING IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR.

AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND ANNOUNCE THAT IT'S ABOUT A EWING.

LINDA FALWELL STOVER, MATT ADLER, RACHEL BOTELHO, I BELIEVE, IS THE CHAIR AND JANE HAAS.

I'VE GOT A MOTION. SECOND.

I'VE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I, I.

OK, GREAT.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS JUST AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

[8. Announcement by County Judge of Appointments to the Nueces County Industrial Commission aka Nueces County Development Commission, pursuant to Chapter 381 of the Texas Local Government Code.]

AS TIME PASSES, PEOPLE DO MOVE ON.

AND SO WE HAVE THREE HAD THREE VACANCIES ON THE NCDC.

AND SO I'M CALLING I'M JUST MAKING THIS ANNOUNCEMENT THAT OUR THREE NEW REPLACEMENTS ARE AJIT DAVID, CLAUDIA REYES AND TONY DARKE WITH AN EX FROM TEXAS A&M UNIVERSITY OF DR.

ISABEL ARISA.

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I I DON'T REMEMBER, IS THERE A LIMIT ON THAT, I MEAN, ARE JUST PEOPLE GOING OFF AND GOING BACK ON? YES, IT'S IT STAYS AT ONE NO.

15, OK. IT STAYS ONE NUMBER.

YEAH. AND AND I'M SORRY, BUT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T REMEMBER WHO THEY'RE REPLACING, BUT THE NUMBER IS THE SAME.

THEY'RE VACANCIES AND PEOPLE JUST DECIDE TO LEAVE OR YOU JUST REPLACE THEM.

I'M JUST CURIOUS. YEAH, NO, I'M NOT DISPLACING ANYBODY.

THEY JUST MOVED ON.

YEAH, WE JUST HAD VACANCIES.

I'LL ASK COLIN TO SEND A MEMO SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE CURRENT BOARD MAKEUP LOOKS LIKE AND WHERE PEOPLE MOVED ON AND OFF FROM.

YOU KNOW, AND IT'S IT'S A TWO YEAR POSTING.

OK. HAVING SAID THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, A CONSENT AGENDA.

[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]

AND THERE ARE ITEMS A THROUGH Z, LITERALLY THE WHOLE ALPHABET.

AND I'D ASK FOR EMOTION AT THIS TIME OR ASK THAT YOU IDENTIFY THOSE ITEMS THAT NEED ANY CLARIFICATION OR INFORMATION.

AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THE HEALTH DISTRICT DID CONTACT OUR OFFICE THIS MORNING.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND ASK THAT YOU PLEASE TABLE ITEM.

WHY? WHY TO THE NEXT COURSE? MOTION AND ALL. I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I YEAH, APPARENTLY THERE WAS SOMETHING NOT QUITE READY IN THE GRANT AND THE CONTRACT.

ANY OTHERS? I'LL LOOK.

I JUST. JUST V AND W, AND I'M GOING TO ASK A LOT OF W V AND W JUST W QUESTIONS TODAY RELATED TO THE AND WE GOT IT.

OK, I'M GOING TO ASK THAT WE GET SOME INFO FROM MICHAEL.

SO IF SOMEONE COULD PLEASE TEXT HIM BECAUSE THAT IS A SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT AND IF NOT, MAYBE SOMEONE FOR PROCUREMENT TO JUMP ON THE PHONE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

AND WE CAN WAIT. WE CAN COME BACK.

WE MAY HAVE TO BECAUSE I DIDN'T GIVE HIM A HEADS UP.

THAT'S FINE. WELL, THAT'S MY PHONE.

NO WORRIES. HOW ABOUT A MOTION, THEN FOR THE REST, PLEASE.

SO MOVE MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND MOTION, A SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

ALL RIGHT. HOLD ON, JAY.

DO YOU HAVE ONE? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO.

I HAVE ONE S.

I WANTED THIS CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

YES. YES. COULD WE PULL AS JUDGE? I CAN, I'M JUST GOING TO ASK THAT THE CLERK, PLEASE NOTE, FOR THE RECORD, THAT ALL ITEMS BUT AS OK.

AND AND THEN WE'LL NOW MOVE TO S.

AND THAT'S APPROVING THE AMENDMENT TO THE SECOND EMERGENCY COVID 19 SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT

[S. Approve Amendment No.1 to Second Emergency COVID-19 Supplemental Agreement in Support of Rapid Infusion Center with Global Spectrum, L.P.]

IN SUPPORT OF THE RAPID INFUSION CENTER WITH GLOBAL SPECTRUM.

AND IF I COULD ASK COMMISSIONER GONZALES FOR HIS QUESTION, YEAH, I DO WANT A CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

WHAT? WHAT DO WE WHAT SHOULD WE BE DOING IN SUPPORT OF RAPID INFUSION CENTER WITH GLOBAL SPECTRUM? SO THEY'RE GIVING US A SPACE.

ARE WE PAYING FOR THE SPACE OR WHAT? WHO WANTS TO TAKE THAT ONE? SO, SO I BELIEVE IN SEPTEMBER, THE COURT HAD APPROVED AN AGREEMENT WITH SPECTRA TO PROVIDE SPACE FOR THE RAPID INFUSION CENTER, BUT IT HAD A MAXIMUM AMOUNT PAYABLE, AND THE STATE WHO WAS RUNNING THE RAPID INFUSION CENTER ENDED UP STAYING A FEW EXTRA DAYS THAN WAS ANTICIPATED.

SO THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT THAT WENT ABOVE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT PAYABLE WAS $14000.

AND SO THIS AGREEMENT IS FOR THAT FOURTEEN THOUSAND.

LET ME DEAL WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE FOR TWO WEEKS, BASICALLY IT WOULD BE 14 DAYS. HOW MANY TOTAL DAYS? COMMISSIONER? OH NO, FOR THIS ADDITIONAL AMOUNT.

BUT I THINK IN TOTAL IT WAS PROBABLY 104 DAYS THAT THEY WERE THERE.

THIS ONE COVERS THE EXTRA DAY TO STAY.

THERE WAS TWO WEEKS, RIGHT? THAT'S 14 DAYS.

CORRECT. AND IT'S $14000, RIGHT? THAT'S GREAT. I BELIEVE IT WAS $1000 A DAY AS THE RENT, SO TO ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION.

WE DO PAY FOR THAT SPACE AND.

LOOK. OK.

ALL RIGHT. GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

REAL QUICK. OH, SURE.

CAN I GET THE SECOND? OH, I'M SURE I'LL SECOND.

OK. AND THEN GO AHEAD.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THIS BEING ON THE AGENDA AND IN.

AS YOU AS YOU HAVE IN THE PAST, GIVEN ME OUT OF OUT OF HOW DO I SAY IT, AN UNUSUAL COMPLIMENT THAT A MEETING OR TWO AGO, I'LL DO THE SAME THING.

[01:40:01]

AS YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY CONCERNED ABOUT ALL OF THE CONTRACTS AND AMENDMENTS THAT I DON'T BELIEVE SHOULD JUST BE SIGNED AS AN EMERGENCY.

I APPRECIATE THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THIS ONE, AND I THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT ON THE AGENDA AND ALLOWING US TO WEIGH IN ON THIS.

AND I THINK THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE MANY OF THOSE THINGS THAT IF THEY WERE PUT ON THE AGENDA, WOULD PROBABLY BE AGREED TO BY THE COURT BECAUSE MY OBJECTION HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT I DIDN'T THINK THEY WERE EMERGENCIES.

NOT THAT I DIDN'T THINK THAT SOME OF THEM WERE WORTHWHILE, BUT JUST THE PROCESS.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT THIS IS ON THE AGENDA AND THAT'S MY COMPLIMENT FOR YOU FOR THE DAY.

AS YOU DID FOR ME, AS YOU WERE KIND ENOUGH TO DO FOR ME, SO I'M RETURNING THAT TO YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. SINCERELY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I, I OPPOSE SAME SIGN.

OK, LET'S LET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY TO ANSWER.

OH YES. GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU. WE'RE READY FOR FEE COMMISSIONER CHESNEY AND W..

[V. Approve sole source purchase with Axis Forensic Toxicology ("Axis") for forensic toxicology laboratory services for the Medical Examiners Department.]

[W. Approve sole source purchase with NMS Labs for postmortem toxicology for the Medical Examiner's office.]

THIS IS BOTH THE FORENSIC PIECES OF TOXICOLOGY.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.

HELLO. MY QUESTIONS ARE UM.

I'M I'M GOING I'M JUST GOING TO RAISE QUESTIONS ON EVERYTHING RELATED TO THE ME'S OFFICE RIGHT NOW, AND I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.

SO WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH OR MAY GO THROUGH ON THAT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S NECESSARY AND WHY.

AND SO THAT WE JUST, YOU KNOW, DON'T RUN OVER ANYTHING WITHOUT ADDRESSING IT MAY BE PERFECTLY OK, BUT I JUST WANTED A LITTLE ON THE RECORD EXPLANATION BECAUSE THAT'S A SENSITIVE AREA RIGHT NOW.

AND IF YOU COULD DO THAT, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

SURE. BOTH OF THESE ITEMS, ACTUALLY ONE OF THEM IS THE THE FIRST ONE TV IS WITH ACCESS FORENSIC TOXICOLOGY AND THE ME'S DEPARTMENT UTILIZES THIS FOR THE FORENSIC TOXICOLOGY LAB. AND THIS IS VERY CUSTOMARY FOR THEM TO UTILIZE THIS LAB.

FOR ALL FORENSIC TESTING THAT THEY PERFORM, WHEN YOU SAY ALL FORENSIC, THAT MEANS PATHOLOGY. I'M SORRY, I'M NOT A MEDICAL PERSON.

I APOLOGIZE. I'M NOT.

IS THAT I MEAN, DRUG PANELS AND FLUIDS? AND THAT'S WHAT EXACTLY THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

OKAY. SO THIS IS THIS IS JUST IT'S A SOLE SOURCE.

SO DO WE.

WHEN WE DO SOUL SOURCES, WE DON'T.

IS IT WISE THE REASON WE DON'T HAVE TO BID THOSE OUT? I GUESS THERE'S A QUESTION.

THE MAIN REASON IS.

THE SOLE SOURCE MEETS THE PURCHASING ACT REQUIREMENTS, AND WHEN THEY ARE THE ONLY LAB DEPARTMENT THAT CAN OFFER THIS TYPE OF SERVICE, THAT IS WHY IT'S CONSIDERED A SOLE SOURCE. AND YOU AND YOU.

AND WE DO NOT HAVE TO GO OUT FOR BIDS.

AND IF YOU'LL NOTICE THERE IS A LETTER THAT WAS ATTACHED FROM THE ACCESS FORENSIC THAT STATES THAT THEY'RE SOLE SOURCE FOR THOSE TWO.

AND I UNDERSTAND, BUT WHEN YOU SAY THEY'RE THE ONLY LAB, I, I DOUBT THAT MEANS THEY'RE THE ONLY LAB ANYWHERE.

I THINK WHAT THAT MEANS AND MICHAEL'S NOT HERE, BUT I THINK WHAT IT MEANS IS THAT IT MEETS THE PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTS, BUT IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE US FROM GOING OUT FOR BIDS.

BUT IN THIS CASE, WE'VE JUST OPTED NOT TO BECAUSE IT MEETS THE PROCUREMENT ACT IN THE SOLE SOURCE SITUATION.

SO I JUST AGAIN.

I'M OK TODAY, RIGHT, AND I THINK YOUR EXPLANATION IS GOING TO BE THE SAME ON THE ON THE SECOND, ON THE SECOND ONE AND ANOTHER TO W YOU ON THE SPOT AT ALL.

I'M NOT TRYING TO. I'M JUST.

NO, I'M OK TODAY, BUT I THINK WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THIS STUFF AS WE GO THROUGH ALL OF THE REVIEW OF THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THAT.

WE SHOULD BE SOLE SOURCING.

I JUST I'M JUST KIND OF.

SO THE ONLY THE ONLY THING I WANT TO ADD IS THAT IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM LAST COURT WHEN THIS ISSUE WAS RAISED THAT WE'VE ALWAYS USED ACCESS, BUT THAT DUE TO THE FACT OF INCREASED WORK DUE TO COVID 19, THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME WE WENT OVER A PARTICULAR AMOUNT, WHICH WAS OVER $50000.

AND THAT IS WHY THERE WAS A, IF YOU WILL, A A DUE DILIGENCE VETTING OF THE PROCUREMENT CORRECT. BUT THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS THE PURCHASING ACT ALLOWS FOR THAT PARTICULAR SPECIALTY SERVICE WHERE IN THIS CASE, I LOOKED UP ACCESS.

THEY HAVE A CERTAIN ACCREDITATIONS THAT WE NEED AND ARE ABLE TO FULFILL THAT.

AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT, JUDGE AND I APPRECIATE YOU BRING THAT UP.

BUT BUT DOES THIS ACCESS THEN NOT VIOLATE SOLE SOURCE SINCE WE'VE USED THEM OVER 50?

[01:45:06]

ALWAYS USE THEM UNDER SOLE SOURCE.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO. BUT IF WE USE THEM FOR MORE THAN 50000, WHICH WOULD PRECLUDE US FROM JUST SORT OF SAYING THAT, SO SOLE SOURCE IS A THE REASON YOU MAYBE JUST DIDN'T SEE IT BEFORE IS BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER THERE'S IT WAS LIKE HAVING MULTIPLE CATEGORIES WHERE IT WOULD FIT IN.

SO IT ALWAYS WENT UNDER THE RADAR BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER OVER 50.

BUT WHEN IT IS OVER 50, THEN YOU WOULD LOOK FOR THAT ACTUAL EXCEPTION TO BE HIGHLIGHTED, WHICH IN THIS CASE IS SOLE SOURCE.

SO YOU'RE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT THAT THIS DOESN'T VIOLATE ANYTHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE IN REGARDS TO THE 50 OVER THE 50 THOUSAND.

IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE, YES, THAT WE DID NOT RECEIVE THAT.

BUT UM, I BELIEVE THAT MICHAEL ROBINSON HAS VETTED THAT AND HAS LOOKED AT THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE. OK, SO, SO SUBJECT.

I WOULD MOVE TO PASS SUBJECT TO COUNTY ATTORNEY AND THE PURCHASING AGENT VERIFYING THAT THIS DOES NOT VIOLATE US BY GOING OVER THAT 50000 LIMIT.

AND INDEED, THIS IS AN EXCEPTION AS THE JUDGE IS ARTICULATED, RIGHT? AND I WOULD OBVIOUSLY, I WOULD OBVIOUSLY CONCUR.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT HE REPRESENTED THAT TO THIS COURT LAST COURT.

I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HERE BECAUSE IF THERE IS, I KNOW THERE'S GOT TO BE ANOTHER LAB OUT THERE BESIDES JUSTICE THAT YOU KNOW AND.

THERE'S GOT TO BE MORE THAN ONE OR MORE THAN TWO LABS WHEN HE GOES IN AND WE TELL US ALL THE TIME, AND MICHAEL IS THE ONE WHO TELLS ALL TIME OR 50000 IS THE IS IS THE KEY.

YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T GO OVER THAT UNTIL IF YOU DO AND YOU KNOW, AND WE GO BACK AND KIND OF REDO THINGS BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY WHAT HE SAYS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S AGAIN, A BORDERLINE THING HERE, NOTHING THAT REALLY WE SHOULD CHECK TO SEE.

WHERE ARE THE OTHER LABS ARE? YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO HAVE I LIKE TO HAVE A LIST OF ANY OTHER LABS THAT THEY ARE THAT WE HAVE GONE TO OR LABS THAT WE CAN GO TO OR AND I KNOW THERE WAS ANOTHER LEVEL THAT THEY USED WHEN THEY GOT A SECOND OPINION AND THIS CASE THAT JUST HAPPENED.

SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST YOU KNOW WHAT WAS GOOD FOR ONE, GOOD FOR THE OTHER ONE, YOU KNOW? RIGHT. I THINK THAT WE'RE DELVING INTO THE SPECIFICS.

FIFTY THOUSAND. RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THE KEY IS IS THAT THE SOLE SOURCE IS THE EXCEPTION TO THE FIFTY THOUSAND.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DISTINGUISH HERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS NOW.

IT IS THE EXCEPTION.

JENNY, COULD YOU PLEASE CLARIFY THIS? THIS IS IMPORTANT.

YES. AND I KNOW MICHAEL CAN ARTICULATE IT, BUT BETTER THAN I CAN.

BUT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO OUT TO COMPETITIVE WHEN YOU HIT THAT 50 MARK, THE SOLE SOURCE EXCEPTION PREVENTS YOU FROM NEEDING TO DO THAT AND DEFINE THIS WHOLE SOURCE JUST ONE MORE TIME. THE SOLE SOURCE IS SOMETHING LIKE IN THIS CASE, THEY HAVE SOME PARTICULAR COPYRIGHTS THAT OTHERS DON'T HOLD OR CORRECT.

SO AND ABSOLUTELY.

AND JUST TO ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION, AND AGAIN, I'M ONLY BASING THIS OFF WHAT I CONSIDER THE BASICS OF FUNDAMENTAL JUST LOOKING UP WHAT THE DEFINITION OF SOMETHING IS, BUT THE PURPOSE OF A FORENSIC TOXICOLOGY THAT IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE PATHOLOGY, THE TOXICOLOGY IS TO DETERMINE WHAT TOXINS, INCLUDING DRUGS, ARE IN THE BODY.

AND THERE ARE ONLY IT'S NOT THAT THERE ARE NOT OTHER LABS, IT'S YOU HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN ACCREDITATION.

THAT'S WHAT WAS EXPLAINED TO US IN COURT ONE QUARTER AGO, MAYBE TWO QUARTS AGO SINCE WE HAD A SPECIAL. WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS WHAT I'M HEARING IS HAVE A NARRATIVE BE PRESENTED TO US IN WRITING SO THAT IF ANYBODY ASKS, WE CAN PROPERLY REPEAT THAT NARRATIVE.

BUT JUST AS AS I SAY, I'M BASING MY INFORMATION ON WHAT WAS RELAYED HERE IN THIS COURT.

IT WAS NOT JUST SOLE SOURCE, IT WAS SOLE SOURCE FOR TOXICOLOGY FROM THE TYPES OF ACCREDITATION SO THAT YOU COULD USE THAT FORENSIC TOXICOLOGY IN A COURTROOM FOR THE PURPOSE OF EVIDENCE.

THAT'S VERY FEW LABS THAT APPARENTLY DO ALL OF THE DIFFERENT SCREENINGS.

THIS IS A LAB THAT WE HAVE USED.

IT'S BEEN VETTED MANY TIMES, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THAT NARRATIVE WRITTEN. AND IT DOES HAPPEN.

MAYBE WOULD GIVE US AN EXPLANATION, RIGHT? AND IF I CAN ADD, MICHAEL DID COMMUNICATE, HE DID JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT THERE'S NO PRECLUSION DUE TO TO GOING OVER 50 BECAUSE WHAT GOES OVER 50 IS WHAT REQUIRES THE LETTER. AND SO THEREFORE, JUST AS JENNY EXPLAINED, THE SOLE SOURCE IS AN EXCEPTION TO

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COMPETITIVE BIDDING WHEN YOU GO OVER 50.

SO BASICALLY THAT 50 IS WHERE YOU TRIGGER NEEDING THE LETTER.

AND AS FAR AS THE BACKUP GOES WITH WITH, THE SOLE SOURCE LETTER INDICATES IS THAT ACCESS IS A WHOLE CASE APPROACH IN CASE MANAGEMENT PORTAL FOR NOISELESS COUNTY, AND THEREFORE THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT WOULD OFFER THIS BASED ON WHAT MICHAEL'S SOLE SOURCE LETTER INDICATES, WHICH INDICATES YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GET IT.

OK, SO AGAIN, SUBJECT TO VERIFICATION THAT IT IS SOLE SOURCE AND THAT IT IS AN EXCEPTION THAT IT MEETS IT, THEN I MY MOTION IS STILL ON THE TABLE.

SO WE'LL TAKE THAT AS A MOTION.

I THINK I SECONDED IT.

YOU DID. AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, I I.

THE SECOND ONE IS W.

IT'S A DIFFERENT LAB AND THIS HAS TO DO WITH TOXICOLOGY AS WELL.

IT'S CALLED NMS LABS.

SAME SAME NOTION.

YES. YES.

ALL RIGHT. A SECOND THAT SAME SUBJECT TO AND I'LL SECOND IT.

AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, I I MY POST SAME SIGN.

ALL RIGHTY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO A REGULAR AGENDA AND WE HAVE DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION

[1. Receive presentation from South Texas Human Rights Center regarding the “Migrant Death Practices” research project; consider adopting resolution in support of their efforts, and allow County Judge to sign support letter to Texas State Institutional Review Board (IRB).]

TO ITEM A ONE.

AND SCOTT, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR PATIENCE.

I'M GOING TO ADVANCE YOURS IF YOU'RE OK.

AFTER AFTER EDIE'S AFTER EDUARDO'S THAT I DID NOT PROPERLY RECOGNIZE.

I DO APOLOGIZE, MR. GONZALEZ. IN THIS CASE, LET ME SET THE STAGE FOR THOSE OF YOU LISTENING ONLINE.

THIS IS A PRESENTATION FROM THE SOUTH TEXAS HUMAN RIGHTS CENTER.

THE SUBJECT MATTER IS MIGRANT DEATH PRACTICES.

IT'S A RESEARCH PROJECT.

IT CONSIDERS ADOPTING A RESOLUTION AND ALLOWS.

SO IT'S KIND OF GOING TO BE TWO, ASKS COMMISSIONERS.

IT'S ADOPTING THE RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF THEIR EFFORTS AND ALLOW THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN THE SUPPORT LETTER TO THE TEXAS STATE INSTITUTIONAL REVIEW BOARD, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE IRB. MR. CANALES HAS PRESENTED HIS INFORMATION.

I'LL TELL YOU IN ADVANCE TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND THANK YOU AND WELCOME.

THANK YOU, JUDGE. THANK YOU, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU A BACKGROUND INFORMATION REGARDING OUR WORK AT THE SOUTH TEXAS HUMAN RIGHTS CENTER.

WE'VE BEEN IN EXISTENCE AND WE'RE FOUNDED IN 2013.

AND JUST TO GIVE YOU THE CONTEXT IN TERMS OF THE QUESTION OF MIGRANT DEATHS, WHEN I FIRST ARRIVED IN BROOKS COUNTY, IT'S ABOUT SEVENTY FIVE MILES FROM HERE AND OUR TEN MINUTES FROM HERE, AND IT WAS DEMONSTRATIVE NEED THERE IN TERMS OF ONE HUNDRED AND NINETEEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINE RECOVERED BODIES AND REMAINS IN BROOKS COUNTY.

AND IT IS A IT IS A CONSISTENT PROBLEM, A CRISIS, A HUMANITARIAN CRISIS THAT'S TAKING PLACE. THE NUMBER OF RECOVERED BODIES LAST YEAR WAS ONE HUNDRED NINETEEN SKELETAL REMAINS AND BODIES. AND SO THE WORK OF THE CENTER HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE TWO THOUSAND NINETEEN. BROOKS COUNTY AT THE TIME WAS NOT COMPLYING WITH STATE LAW AND IN TERMS OF TAKING DNA SAMPLES FROM UNIDENTIFIED BODIES AND AND AND SUBMITTING THOSE TO THE PROPER DATABANK, WHICH IS AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW AND STILL IS.

UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS, THE NATIONAL HUMAN IDENTIFICATION CENTER.

AND YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE ISSUES REGARDING NAMAZ, WHICH IS THE NATIONALS SYSTEM, NATIONAL MISSING AND UNIDENTIFIED SYSTEM IN THIS COUNTRY.

THE CENTER, YOU KNOW, FROM THE GET GO ESTABLISHED COLLABORATION WITH WITH BROOKS COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF OUR EFFORTS TO TO TO BEGIN TRYING TO, OUR MISSION IS TO TRY TO SAVE LIVES, MITIGATE THE SUFFERING OF PEOPLE THAT'S TAKEN PLACE OUT IN BROOKS COUNTY. AND IT IS A SITUATION THAT IS IN OUR BACKYARD.

AND NOT VERY MANY PEOPLE KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE DYING ON A DAILY BASIS AND DISAPPEARING ON A DAILY BASIS IN BROOKS COUNTY AND RELIGION IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE IMMIGRATION ISSUE OR MIGRATION THAT'S TAKING PLACE FROM CENTRAL AMERICA, SOUTH AMERICA AND AND MEXICO.

I CAN TELL YOU NOW, JUST RECENTLY, THIS PAST WEEK, I'VE BEEN RECEIVING AN INCREDIBLE NUMBER OF CALLS OF VENEZOLANOS THAT ARE COMING TO THE BORDER AND, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH

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THE ISSUE OF OF THEIR ASYLUM AND AND ALSO PEOPLE FROM NICARAGUA.

THE CENTER FROM THE GET GO DID ESTABLISH A RELATIONSHIP WITH BROOKS COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, AND WITHOUT THEIR ASSISTANCE, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CONTINUE OUR WORK.

WE BEGAN OUR WATER STATION INITIATIVE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF PEOPLE HAVE GONE DOWN TO SOUTH TEXAS, TO THE VALLEY AND SEEING THE BLUE BARRELS THAT ARE OUT THERE ON HIGHWAY 77 AND 281, THAT'S THE SOUTH TEXAS HUMAN RIGHTS CENTER.

WE PROVIDE WATER, WE PROVIDE WATER STATIONS OUT IN THE BACK, ROADS AND RANCHES IN THIS, IN BROOKS COUNTY, IN AND AROUND BROOKS COUNTY, HAVING A TOTAL OF MAYBE 175 TO 200 WATER STATIONS. AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO ESTABLISH THOSE WATER STATIONS.

WE HAVE A MISSING MIGRANTS HOTLINE AND THAT'S JUST MENTIONED TO YOU ON A DAILY BASIS OR WEEKLY BASIS. WE'RE GETTING CALLS FROM PEOPLE FROM THIS, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE IN THIS COUNTRY AND FROM CENTRAL AMERICA AND MEXICO REGARDING PEOPLE GOING MISSING.

ONCE PEOPLE CROSS THE BORDER, THEY SOMETIMES THEY'RE OF COURSE THEY'RE AT THE MERCY OF THEIR GUIDE THE BOLERO, THE COYOTES, AS PEOPLE MAY CALL THEM.

AND SOME PEOPLE ARE TOTALLY UNPREPARED IN TERMS OF MAKING IT THROUGH WHAT THEY REFER TO AS THE DESERT, THE SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH TERRAIN THAT IS EXTREMELY HARSH AND CONTINUES TO TO TO. TAKE BODIES.

SO OUR OUR MISSING MARGARET HOTLINE DEALS TO THAT ON A DAILY BASIS IN TERMS OF TRYING TO EDUCATE PEOPLE, THE PROCESS AND A SYSTEM, AND WE ASSIST THEM IN THE SENSE THAT WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH BORDER PATROL IN TERMS OF DOING SOME OF THE VERY BASIC INFORMATION REGARDING SOMEBODY BEING DETAINED OR NOT BEING DETAINED.

BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS WE REALLY HAVE ESTABLISHED SOME PROTOCOLS REGARDING RESCUES AND RECOVERIES WITH BORDER PATROL AT THE SOUTH TEXAS HUMAN RIGHTS CENTER.

IT'S CALLED THE MISSING MIGRANTS PROGRAM, AND THAT HAS SINCE 2015.

BORDER PATROL IS THINKING OUT OF THE BOX IN TERMS OF THE RELATIONSHIP.

WHAT ARE THEY? HOW DO THEY HANDLE THAT? BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CALLING AND GET DESPERATE OR THEY CALL THE CONSULATE, THEY CALL THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THEY CALL BORDER PATROL, AND IN ESSENCE, NOBODY LISTENS.

SO. YES, SIR.

AND I'M NOT TRYING TO.

I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY, WHY WE'RE WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO AND WHY WE'RE WHAT OUR INVOLVEMENT WOULD EVEN BE AND WHY WE'RE IN ON THIS.

BECAUSE I DON'T I'M NOT FOLLOWING THE WELL, I'M JUST GIVING YOU THE BACKDROP.

IT'S ABOUT MIGRANT DEATHS.

THE THE MEDICAL EXAMINER NUECES COUNTY MEDICAL EXAMINER SYSTEM RECEIVES MIGRANT DEATHS FROM COUNTY TO COUNTY BY CONTRACT, ALSO IS RECEIVING BODIES FROM HIDALGO COUNTY AND IN IN THE COUNTIES THAT WE SERVE.

THE MAIN THE MAIN PORTION OF THE COUNTIES ARE HIDALGO OF ZAPATA STAR CAMERON AND THIS COUNTY HERE IN THAT REGARDS, AND WE'RE WE'RE STUDYING THOSE MIGRANT DEATH PRACTICES.

IT'S A CONTINUED RESEARCH IN TERMS OF MAKING, MAKING THE PROTOCOLS AND AND THE PRACTICES THE BEST THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED.

AND THIS WE'RE DOING THIS THROUGH THE FORENSIC BORDER COALITION AND THIS RESEARCH PROJECT. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR PERMISSION FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND COUNTY JUDGE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS STUDY.

SO JUST TO HELP OUT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, YOU'RE ASKING US TO ALLOW YOU TO PARTICIPATE IN THE STUDY BY SIGNING A LETTER OF SUPPORT.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND SECOND, TO ALLOW YOU UPON THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OBVIOUSLY CONSENT TO ALLOW YOU ACCESS TO DATA.

IS THAT CORRECT? NOT SO MUCH DATA.

IT'S THERE'S A FOCUS GROUP.

THERE'S AN INTERVIEW.

I MEAN, SOME OF THIS DATA IS PUBLIC ACCESS DATA, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S BASICALLY HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF AND AND THE MEDICAL EXAMINER HERE IN BROOKS COUNTY.

I MEAN, HERE IN NOYCE'S COUNTY TO ASCERTAIN SOME OF THE PRACTICES HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

SO IT'S ALL VOLUNTARY CONVERSATIONS.

BUT YOU'RE ASKING THIS COURT TO ALLOW THE.

THE THE I GUESS THE PRACTICE ARE IN THE CONCEPT OF BEING ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

DO WE HAVE A LETTER? DO WE HAVE A RESOLUTION? WE DO HAVE A LETTER, BUT JENNY DORSEY WOULD LIKE.

EXCUSE ME. COUNTY ATTORNEY WANTS TO ADDRESS YOU IN THIS.

I'D LIKE YOUR OPINION TO. I DON'T.

I THINK WE WERE GOING TO DO IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM ON THIS AS WELL.

WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO THIS.

I DON'T GET THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY ANYTHING RIGHT NOW WITH THE MEDICAL

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EXAMINER. HOLD ON. LET ME JUST FINISH.

BUT THE MEDICAL EXAMINER, I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS AGAIN.

I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THIS ALL DAY LONG.

HAVING THE MEDICAL EXAMINER INVOLVED IN ANYTHING RIGHT NOW WITH WE GO THROUGH OUR REVIEW IS SOMETHING I'M NOT.

I DON'T I THINK I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THAT YOU TELL US EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US SO THAT WHEN WE GO TALK ABOUT IT, WE KNOW EXACTLY IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

YOU'RE ASKING US TO SIGN A LETTER OF SUPPORT WHICH IS CONTAINED IN OUR PACKET.

NO, IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT THE LETTERS NOT THERE YET.

UNTIL WE TALK, UNTIL WE.

WELL, I HAVE IT OK, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.

BUT THEORETICALLY, THERE'S A LETTER OF SUPPORT THAT WE'LL LOOK AT AND DISCUSS WITH OUR LAWYER. AND THEN WHAT ELSE, MR. MR. THAT'S THAT'S GENERALLY IT.

I MEAN, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, YOU KNOW? YES, SIR, MR. COMMISSIONER.

AND SO JUST IN YOUR IN YOUR FAVOR, I SUPPORT THIS THING.

ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING WORK FOR MANY, MANY YEARS IN BERKS COUNTY WITHOUT GOING JIM WELLS.

YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN OUT THERE, MOSTLY ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS, YOU KNOW, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE COMMITTED IN HELPING THE MIGRANTS THAT ARE ALMOST DON'T MAKE IT AND THOSE THEY MAKE IT AND TRY TO KEEP A COUNT OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME MORE MONEY TO HELP FIGHT THIS ISSUE.

YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, YOU GUYS WERE ALREADY DOING THIS.

YOU WERE GOING INTO THE AREA, INTO THE BRUSH AREA AND PUTTING WATER IN THE BRUSH AREA TO KEEP THEM FROM DYING OF THIRST.

BUT YOU KNOW, AND I THINK WHAT YOU WHAT YOU WHAT? I SEE IT JUST ALL YOU ASKING IS FOR INFORMATION ON HOW THINGS ARE DONE, HOW THINGS WORK, YOU KNOW, AND NOTHING THAT YOU HAVEN'T DONE ALREADY.

YOU KNOW, WITH THE BORDER PATROL.

AND IF YOU AND YOU WORK, I KNOW YOU WORK HAND-IN-HAND WITH BORDER PATROL, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN BROOKS COUNTY, MAINLY.

SO I THINK THAT I COMMEND YOU, I COMMEND YOUR GROUP FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS. I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT SEEKING PROPRIETARY INFORMATION.

WE'RE WE'RE CONDUCTING A RESEARCH AND IRB IS A PRO FORMA PERMISSION FORM THAT THAT THAT DOES, YOU KNOW, CERTIFY THE FACT THAT THIS IS THAT ANY TYPE OF ROGUE RESEARCH THROUGH THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS THROUGH TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY THAT THE DEPARTMENT WILL CONTINUE TO TO FOLLOW ALL PROTOCOLS THAT DEALS WITH THE PRIVACY AND ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS.

WE'RE NOT ASKING ANYTHING THAT, BUT WE'RE ASKING THE COURT TO SUPPORT THIS EFFORT.

AND AND AGAIN, I MEAN, MIGRANT DEATHS IS SOMETHING THAT IS IN OUR BACKYARD IS A HUMANITARIAN CRISIS.

AND VERY, VERY FEW PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN REGARDS.

I MEAN, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY KNOWS IN THIS COURTS AND KNEW THAT ONE HUNDRED AND NINETEEN BODIES AND REMAINS WERE HAD HAD PERISHED IN BROOKS COUNTY.

AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT FOR US TO FOLLOW UP AND AND LOOK AND LOOK AT THE PRACTICES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH MEDICAL EXAMINERS, I'M GOING TO SHOW THEM THE SAME THING AS A COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL DO.

I'VE SEEN YOU IN THE NEWS WHERE Y'ALL ARE DELIVERING WATER TO THE STATIONS.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR CARING FOR THOSE PEOPLE.

KING, TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I ALSO WANT TO JOIN IN MR. CRONULLA'S. YOU KNOW, I'VE KNOWN YOU FOR YEARS AND THE WORK YOU'VE DONE AND THE ADVOCACY THAT YOU BRING TO THIS ISSUE.

IT IS A HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE.

IF ANYTHING, IF ONE WANTS TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT, JUST MAKE SURE THEY'RE SAFE JUST TO SEND THEM BACK HOME OR TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY IN A NEW LAND.

I THINK IT'S ABOUT PROTECTING LIFE IN AND THE POLICIES WE HAVE ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO TO ENJOY LIFE HERE AND YOUR HELP BRING DIGNITY TO THOSE LIVES IN WHAT YOU DO.

SO I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT BEFORE US AND AND I SUPPORT THAT PART OF IT, FOR SURE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU, SO SO, MR. CANALES, ONLY BECAUSE IT'S LISTED ON OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WHEN I GO INTO IT, WHEN I GIVE NOTICE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, THERE'LL BE A DISCUSSION AND THEY'LL PASS OUT THE LETTER AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK INTO OPEN SESSION.

AND IF IT'S APPROPRIATE, WE'LL TAKE ACTION AT THAT TIME.

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BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'VE GOTTEN EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED TO TO SHARE WITH THE COURT ABOUT.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT MEETS PRIVACY REQUIREMENTS AND EVERYTHING, AS WE HAVE DONE THAT WITH ATTORNEY JENNY DORSEY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU.

GOT ONE QUESTION? DO WE HAVE TO REALLY GO BEHIND DOORS AND.

DO YOU WANT US TO GO BEHIND DOORS AND TAKE CARE OF THIS OR WHAT WHAT YOU'RE SIGNING? I MEAN, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW. I DON'T EVEN KNOW.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I HAVE NOBODY HERE.

DIDN'T GET THE LETTER, EITHER.

THERE ARE OUR ISSUES WITH CONFIDENTIALITY.

THERE ARE ISSUES WITH VOLUNTARINESS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH THE COURT BEFORE YOU MAKE A BLANKET.

OK. ALL RIGHT.

OK, BUT WE'LL BE WE'LL COME BACK AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THANK YOU, MR. GONZALEZ.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDERING THE APPROVAL OF AN

[2. Discuss and consider approval of Interlocal Agreement with the Community Supervision and Corrections Department (CSCD) for the purposes of Risk Assessment Services in the Nueces County Jail.]

INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH COMMUNITY SUPERVISION CORRECTIONS DEPARTMENT, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS SKD.

THIS IS PART OF OUR RISK ASSESSMENT SERVICES IN OUR JAIL AND I BELIEVE EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER, BUT I WOULD LIKE THAT CONFIRMATION.

BELINDA, EVERYTHING'S IN ORDER WITH THIS INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT.

YES. COUNTY ATTORNEY ALL GOOD.

AND THIS IS THE SAME ONE WE DO.

YOU KNOW, IT'S THE SAME AS LAST YEAR.

IT IS. BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY ADDED AN ADDITIONAL OFFICER THAT IS CORRECT, ALL THE NEED AND THEREFORE THAT THIRD OFFICER WOULD BE WAS ALREADY INCLUDED IN YOUR RPA PLANNING, THEN WOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH YOUR ARPA FUNDS.

THAT'S THAT IS CORRECT.

BUT THE DOCUMENT ITSELF, THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT CONTRACTUALLY IS IS THE SAME.

ALL RIGHT. OK, BILL, I'LL GO TO YOU.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE AGAIN, BUT IT'S ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY ONE THOUSAND FROM THE GENERAL FUND. THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THEN FORTY TWO THOUSAND FROM THE ARPA FUND.

SO IT'S NOT ALL COMING FROM THE ARPA FUND.

NO, THE ADDITIONAL OFFICER IS GOING TO BE COMING FROM THE TARP FUNDS BECAUSE IT WAS ORIGINALLY BUDGETED FOR TWO IN.

THEY ASKED FOR THREE.

GOOD. THERE'S ONE DIRTY ONE.

IT IS GENERAL FUNDS.

THAT'S CORRECT. OK.

WHY WOULD IT DO? WHY WOULD WE HAVE TO GO TO GENERAL FUNK, WHO CAN'T JUST DO IT ALL ARPA WHEN WE REALLY STARTED THIS ABOUT TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO WITH THE WITH THE GRANTS COMING IN FROM JUDGE WATSON CREATED GRANT.

THE GRANT PAID FOR SOME ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT, BUT WE WERE REQUIRED TO AFTER THE GRANT WAS OVER TO CONTINUE. THE PROCESS OF PAYING THIS THROUGH THE BOUSES OF FUNDS WERE PAID FOR THROUGH OUR COURT ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT AT THIRTY THREE HUNDRED.

THIS WAS BROUGHT UP MANY YEARS.

THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WE WERE ASKED TO CONTINUE THIS AND WE IN THE COURT SO CHOSE TO DO THIS WITH THE FUNDING COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

OK. ALL RIGHT.

WHAT DO YOU DO, ACTUALLY JUST FOR THE THIRD OFFICER PERIOD, CORRECT? ALL RIGHT. OK, SO HAVING THE DISCUSSION IS, WAS THERE A MOTION MADE? I DON'T THINK SO.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS IN A LOCAL AGREEMENT? ELEGANT. OK, I'LL TAKE COMMISSIONER MODEST AS SECOND AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, I, I, I.

OK, SCOTT CROSS, YOU'RE ON NO ITEMS THREE AND FOUR.

[3. Discuss and consider no cost time extension Change Order No. 5 from Geofill Material Technologies to complete Horace Caldwell Pier building renovation.]

THE FIRST IS A IS THE BEST FIVE AND FIVE AND E ONE.

IF POSSIBLE, WE'LL TAKE THEM ALL IN ORDER.

START WITH THE CHANGE ORDER.

THAT'S A NO COST CHANGE ORDER.

I REPEAT A NO COST CHANGE ORDER.

NO COST RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

YEAH, MOTION A SECOND.

THE ONLY DISCUSSION IS I GOT A GOOD EMAIL THAT SAID I THINK SIX OUT OF THE NINE WINDOWS WE'RE IN. YEAH, WE GOT SIX OF THEM.

IT'S THE WHOLE SUPPLY CHAIN THING.

YEAH, BUT BUT THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.

IT'S REALLY EXCITING. WE'RE GETTING REALLY CLOSE.

WE SHOULD GET OUR CFO AND THE NEGATIVE OCCUPANCY.

I'M SORRY. YES, IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

AWESOME. IT'S SORT OF IT'S RELEVANT BECAUSE IT'S WORTH CALDWELL PIER BUILDING.

THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT I THINK EVERYBODY ON THE COURT NEEDS TO BE REMINDED OF, TOO.

THIS IS WHERE WE HAD DISCUSSED AND WE NEED TO FORMALIZE IT.

BUT WE'VE DISCUSSED IT WHEN WE GOT OUR SETTLEMENT MONEY FROM THIS IS RIGHT.

WE'RE DOING HORSE CALWELL ON THIS ONE, RIGHT? THIS IS OK. SORRY, WE GOT OUR SETTLEMENT MONEY ON THIS.

WE HOPE THAT WE WOULD REPLENISH THE CIP AND OTHER FUNDS SO THAT THAT'S A THAT'S KIND OF A NICE THING THAT THE COURT'S GOING TO GET BACK INTO THE SIP FUNDS BECAUSE WE WE BORROWED, IF YOU WILL, WE USE SIP FUNDS TO TO FUND.

THIS, OF COURSE, WAS KIND ENOUGH TO GET THE FUNDS.

YEAH. PARDON ME. YEAH.

WHAT DID I SAY? VIP SIP WELL.

S.O.S. SIP, RIGHT? AND SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE THESE FUNDS WILL GO BACK INTO THE SIP SO THAT THE COURT CAN CAN USE THOSE ACCORDINGLY.

SO AN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE WILL GIVE YOU PLENTY OF ROOM TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'LL WAIT FOR THAT. YEAH.

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AND I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT IF WE DIDN'T DO IT, A DEAL THAT WE DID, I KNOW WE DID A REIMBURSEMENT PROVISION FOR SURE.

ON I.B. MCGEE PARK OFFICE, DID WE ALSO DO A REIMBURSEMENT PROVISION FOR HORSE CALWELL? I DON'T RECALL. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE EVER FORMALIZED THAT WE MAY NEED TO DO THAT.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE DID.

BRANT. I MEAN, THERE WAS A GENERAL FUNDING, GENERAL REIMBURSEMENT REQUEST, FUNDING OF OF A ORDER THAT SAID THAT WE WERE GOING TO REIMBURSE IT.

I BELIEVE THAT SAID, IT WAS A SPECIFIC LOCATION FOR THE TWENTY TWENTY ONE COS, SO I BELIEVE IT WILL COVER ALL OF IT. THANK YOU, DALE.

OK. RECOMMEND APPROVAL IV CALL QUESTION JUDGE.

YES, OF COURSE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE DOLLAR. SORRY, I WAS ALREADY.

I WAS ALREADY SEEING DOLLAR SIGNS HERE.

IT'S OK AND I COULD GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE AND ITEM NUMBER FOUR

[4. Discuss and consider Supplemental Agreement No. 2 with Conrad Blucher Institute (CBI) for monitoring coastal boundary along Nueces County beaches. ]

ACTUALLY IS IMPORTANT.

IT'S THE CONRAD BLUCHER INSTITUTE.

IT'S A SUPPLEMENTAL, YEAH, REAL QUICK.

COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, YOU HAD AGREED TO LEVERAGE $50000 OF SOME OF YOUR FUNDING SOURCES, ALONG WITH THE COST SAVINGS WE HAD FROM THE ORIGINAL IN OUR LOCAL CONTRACT.

YOU ALSO AUTHORIZED ME TO WORK WITH CONRAD BLUE INSTITUTE, DEIDRE AND MYSELF TO INDEPENDENTLY COME UP WITH THE TASK THAT WE WERE GOING TO USE THAT MONEY FOR THAT WAS GOING TO BENEFIT THE COUNTY THE MOST.

AND WE'VE DONE THAT. AND THIS IS WHAT THIS IS.

THIS IS GOING FORWARD TO CONTINUE WITH THAT, WORK WITH THEM, WITH THE ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND AND SOME ODD THAT WAS LEFT OVER FROM THE OTHER ONE.

WE'RE NOT ASKED FOR ANYTHING NEW MONEY AND WHAT YOU LEVERAGE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS COASTAL MONITORING OF OUR BEACHES AND OUR DUNE SYSTEMS THAT ARE STILL HEALING FROM HANNAH.

AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT I RECOMMEND APPROVAL SO MOVED.

I THINK I HEARD A SECOND AS WELL MOTION IN A SECOND AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I BUY ALL RIGHT.

AND THE NUMBER FIVE IS A TIME EXTENSION, BUT IT'S ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL FEES

[5. Discuss and consider approval of Supplemental Agreement No. 2 for a time extension and $9,500.00 additional fees to complete the ADA plans and specs for the ADA ramp and ADA parking to the Engineering Service Contract with Hanson Professional Services.]

AND THIS IS JUST TO FINISH UP THE ADA VERSION.

IF YOU RECALL, SOMETIME BACK, Y'ALL HAD WORKED WITH Y'ALL, Y'ALL GIVEN SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND TOWARDS THIS ADA RAMP AND AND MODIFICATION HORSE CALDWELL PERIOD.

THE BULK OF THAT WAS 2019, COS THERE'S SOME OTHER FUNDING SOURCES MIXED IN.

I GUESS IF YOU WANTED TO KNOW THE FINITE DETAILS, YOU COULD ASK TERESA, SHE TRACKS ALL THAT REALLY WELL. BUT ANYHOW, SO WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE IS, IS THAT HANSON HAS BEEN WORKING ON THE RAMP ITSELF.

AND THEN ONCE YOU GET OFF THE RAMP, YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE THE ACCESSIBLE ROUTE TO THE OBSERVATION DECK.

SO THEY'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE ALL THAT'S GOT THERE AT CROSS SLOPE AND EVERYTHING.

WELL, THE ONE THING THEY DIDN'T HAVE WAS THE ADA PARKING.

NOW RECALL, I CAME TO Y'ALL A WHILE BACK AND BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING THE RTA STOP ACCESSIBLE AND THE PARKING IS GOING TO BE ON EACH SIDE OF THE RTA STOP, IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO USE THIS $9500, IT'S THERE BECAUSE THE SIX FIFTY THAT YOU GAVE ME, THERE'S A GOOD CHUNK OF THAT STILL THERE. WE'VE WE'VE USED A LITTLE BIT HERE IN THERE, SOME CHANGE OWNERS, BUT THE MAJORITY OF STILL THEY'RE STILL SAFE.

WE GOT IT FUNDED. BUT IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER USING RTA FUNDS TO COVER THIS NINE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS, I DON'T SEE WHY YOU COULDN'T BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY MAKING THE RTA.

LET'S STOP. MEET ADA ACCESSIBILITY TO THE PARKING, TO THE RAMP AND TO THE PIER WHERE WHENEVER IT WAS BEFORE.

I'M HAPPY TO USE MY RTA FUNDS.

I HAVE PLENTY AS WELL AS WELL, SO WE CAN GET IT.

AND SO I RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE NO COST TIME EXTENSION.

SO I MEAN THE EXTENSION AND THE FEES SO THEY CAN FINISH THE PARKING LOT BECAUSE WITHOUT ADA PARKING, YOU HAVE A RAMP TO NOWHERE, SO TO SPEAK.

CAN WE HAVE A MOTION ON BOTH OF THOSE FUND BALANCES IN A WHILE EITHER? ARE THOSE STILL WE'RE STILL GETTING THOSE YEARLY, SO WE USUALLY RECEIVE IT EVERY TIME WE GIVE YOU A MONTHLY REPORT, GIVE YOU A YEAR IN BASIS, BUT WE'LL PROVIDE YOU A LIST OF JUST SPLIT THAT JUDGE OR YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO.

AND MINE HAD ALREADY BEEN DESIGNATED FOR POOR DAYS.

SO IF IF EVEN IF YOU WANTED TO SAVE ALL OF YOURS, I REMEMBER JUDGE THAT YOU WEREN'T GOING TO LET ME REBUILD, THAT YOU WERE GOING TO REBUILD THE STOP.

BUT THE CITY CAME IN UNKNOWN TO ME.

WHAT HAPPENED WAS I HAD DEDICATED HOURS TO POOR DAY BECAUSE BUT THEN THE CITY CAME IN AND FIXED IT, FIXED IT.

SO I HAVE THAT.

I BELIEVE THERESA, WE COULD REALLOCATE THOSE TO THIS PART TO THIS.

THAT'S ONE MOVE.

WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR MOTION AND SPECIFY THE FUNDING WITH THE FUNDS? THE JUDGE HAD PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED FOR CORRECT MY MOTION MOVED PASSAGE WITH THE FUNDS THE NINE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED GO AHEAD PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED BY JUDGE CANNOLIS FOR PER DAY.

OK. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND? ALL RIGHT. SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I, I, I, I.

OK, MONEY.

LET'S DO ONE E IN ADVANCE AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.

[1. Discuss and award CSP No. 3187-21 Bob Hall Pier Demolition.]

GO AHEAD. OK.

SO AS AS ALL Y'ALL KNOW, WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE DEMO SPECS AND BIDDING PROCESS WITH PURCHASING, AND MICHAEL AND HIS CREW HAVE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB OF LEADING THAT ANYHOW.

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SO AS YOU KNOW, ON THIS WHOLE PEER PROJECT, YOU HAVE JACOBS'S DOING THE DESIGN WORK, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE LAND THAT'S DOING THE PROGRAM SIDE OF THINGS.

AND SO AFTER ALL, THE BIDS CAME IN LANDS LOCKWOOD ANDREWS AND NEWMAN, EXCUSE ME, ROLE IN THAT PROCESS IS PROGRAM MANAGER WAS TO GO THROUGH AND EVALUATE ALL THE BIDS AND CHECK OUT ALL THE REFERENCES AND DEVELOP THE SCORING MATRIX THAT THEY SHARED WITH US THAT WHEN THE SCORING COMMITTEE, WHICH I WAS ON, SAID HOLD ON, JUST BEFORE I SEE THE SCORING MATRIX, I GOT TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DON'T.

I DON'T WANT TO ASK THEM AFTER I SEE THEM BECAUSE IT MAY LOOK WRONG.

WHY WOULDN'T THIS ONE JUST BE? WHOEVER HAS THE LOW BID GETS IT? BECAUSE WHEN I WHEN I, WHAT I SAW IN MY PACKET WAS THERE WAS A LOW BIDDER.

SO BEFORE I SEE THE MATRIX BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHO THE SELECTION COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING SO THAT EVERYBODY'S CLEAR, I'M NOT DON'T I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT.

I KNOW, NOT YET.

I WANT TO ASK THAT QUESTION BECAUSE WHEN I SEE A BID LIKE THIS AND THEN I HEAR A SCORING MATRIX COMING, I GO, WAIT A MINUTE, WHY CAN'T WE? WHY WOULDN'T IT JUST BE WHOEVER THE LOWEST BIDDER WAS? SO IN THIS CASE, GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THE QUESTION.

YEAH. SO THESE THESE GUYS DON'T TELL ME IT IS THE WINNER OF THE YEAH, NO, NO, THESE GUYS THE BIDDER LEGAL REASON. I'M REALLY ASKING MORE THE LEGAL QUESTION.

OK, THESE BIDDERS, THESE BIDDERS WERE SO CLOSE AND SO TIGHT WE HAD TO LOOK FOR DEFINING CHARACTERISTICS. AND THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED DOING THE REFERENCE CHECKS THAT THEY THEY PROVIDED US.

THEY PROVIDED US THEIR OWN REFERENCES.

WE DIDN'T DIG THEM UP.

NO, NO. I KNOW. I KNOW WHY.

I KNOW HOW. THAT'S WHY WE GET THE MY LEGAL QUESTION IS, JENNY, WHY ISN'T THIS JUST A LOW BID WINS THING? AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHO THE SELECTION COMMITTEE HAS RECOMMENDED.

I HAVE NO DOG IN THIS FIGHT.

I'M ASKING THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT.

WHY ISN'T THIS JUST LOW BID WINS? IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT TO BEGIN WITH.

YOU CAN. YOU CAN DO THAT.

AND THE ONLY REASON I THINK CYNTHIA CREEK IS HERE, WHO CAN FILL OUT.

BUT IF THE ONLY ISSUE THAT I WOULD ADDRESS IS IF YOU DON'T, THEN WE HAVE A PROCESS.

BUT IT'S LOW BID IS.

I THINK WHAT YOU KNOW IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HELP ME OUT HERE, BECAUSE IF WE HAVE IF IT'S A LOW BID, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, WHAT GIVES US THE OPTION TO HAVE A SELECTION COMMITTEE ON A BID IT OUT PROCESS? FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU WANTED, IF I CAN JUST GO AHEAD QUICKLY, I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF THIS, BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS WAS A COMPETITIVE SEAL PROPOSAL AS IT VERSUS AN INVITATION.

IT WAS A COMPETITIVE SEAL PROPOSAL, NOT AN INVITATION FOR LOW BID.

SO NOT AN INVITATION FOR BID.

THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT COMPETITIVE MECHANISMS BECAUSE IT'S A TELL ME THAT TERM COMPETITIVE SEALED PROPOSAL.

SO MEANING IF IT'S IF IT'S A CSP, YOU CAN SCORE THEM.

ALL RIGHT. OK, SO IS THE WAY THE PROCUREMENT WAS DONE RIGHT? SO TELL ME AND I MAY HAVE.

I'M NOT SAYING I DID, BUT THE LOW BID IS THE RECOMMENDATION.

I WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I DON'T.

I DON'T. I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND GOING FORWARD WHY WE DO COMPETE FOR THE CSPS AND WHY WE DO STEEL. I'M SORRY, I CAN'T TALK WHY WE DO.

THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO GET TO IS, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? WHY DO WE DO SEALED BIDS AND WHY DO WE DO COMPETITIVE BIDS? WHY DO WE DO THE DIFFERENCE? IN OTHER WORDS, IF IT'S A PROJECT LIKE THIS AND THE COMPANIES ARE ALL LEGIT, THEN I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A SCORING MECHANISM BECAUSE THEN THERE TO ME COULD BE SOME SOMEBODY SAYS SOMETHING IS FUNNY, RIGHT? SO WHY DID WHY DID WE DO IT AS A COMPETITIVE, SEALED PROPOSAL, IF THAT'S RIGHT, MELINDA OR SCOTT? OR DO WE REMEMBER WHY WE DID IT LIKE THAT? I THINK WE WENT. WE USED THE PROJECT, MADE SOFTWARE.

WHEN WE PUT ALL THIS THROUGH, I KNOW THAT MUCH AND I'M NOT REFERRING TO HOW THE SOFTWARE WORKS. I NEED TO GET BETTER AT THAT.

BUT THAT WAS THE PROCESS THAT THAT LAY IN AND PURCHASING AGREED TO.

AND I CAN'T TELL YOU THE ANSWER TO THAT.

OK, SO I THINK WHAT IF YOU WANTED TO CONSIDER LOCAL, FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S JUST SAY THAT YOUR BIDS ARE INCREDIBLY EVEN THEN A COMPETITIVE SEAL PROPOSAL WOULD ALLOW YOU TO NOT ONLY CHECK REFERENCES, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO MAKE THE CONSIDERATION THAT IF YOU CHOSE, LET'S SAY, BIDDER D FROM WISCONSIN, THAT IF IT'S A $10000 SEPARATION, FOR INSTANCE, THAT LET'S SAY A B C COMPANY FROM CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS, WOULD USE LOCAL PEOPLE LOCAL AS A LEGITIMATE ECONOMIC.

WELL, THAT IS EXACTLY WHY COMPETITIVE SEAL PROPOSALS ARE DONE.

AND I BET I CAN GET YOUR ANSWER REAL EASY IF YOU LET ME FINISH.

WELL, AND THAT'S LIKE I SAID, I WANT BECAUSE I WANT THIS TO BE ABOVE BOARD, RIGHT? AND WE ALL DO. AND SO IF IF IT IS ONE OF THE I DON'T KNOW IF A IF WHAT ALLOWS YOU TO THEN COMPARE AND HOW MANY LOCAL PEOPLE ARE USED, I MEAN, OK, IF THAT'S A LEGITIMATE LEGAL WAY OF DOING THE COMPETITIVE SEALED PROCESS, THEN AND I'M ALL OVER IT, BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO

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APPEAR TO BE TO ANYONE OUT THERE THAT IT'S A WAY TO GET SOMEBODY A BID THAT SOMEBODY DIDN'T EARN, RIGHT? SO SO THERE'S A REAL FINE LINE THERE, AND I KNOW NOBODY ON THIS COURT WOULD WANT TO DO IT THAT WAY. SO I KNOW I'M MAKING A BIG DEAL A MOUNTAIN OUT OF A MOLEHILL, BUT IT'S A $3 MILLION CONTRACT, AND I WANT LOCAL PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT LOCAL PEOPLE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. BUT I ALSO WANT PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE DOING THIS WITH NO AGENDA OTHER THAN THE BEST VALUE AND THE BEST PROJECT FOR THE FOR THE COUNTY. SO I MEAN, TO ME, THAT WAS JUST, I MEAN, THAT'S A GOOD PROCESS.

I THINK GOING FORWARD, WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AS A COURT ON THESE, ESPECIALLY THESE BIG CONTRACTS ON WHICH DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO.

DO WE WANT TO DO THE COMPETITIVE SEALED PROCESS? AND IF IF THE JUDGE IS, I'M SURE SHE IS CORRECT ON WHY YOU CAN DO THAT AND THAT ALLOWS US SOME FLEXIBILITY, NOT A LOT LIKE IF IT'S A MILLION DOLLAR DIFFERENCE OR FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR DIFFERENCE, BUT IF IT'S LIKE THIS ONE, I MEAN, IT WAS THIS WAS TIGHT.

I MEAN, THIS WAS LIKE SIX THOUSAND ON ON ONE AND AND ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND BETWEEN THE HIGH AND THE LOW ON A THREE MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT.

THAT'S AMAZING. THAT'S THAT'S TIGHT, RIGHT? SO THAT MEANS EVERYBODY'S DOING IT.

AND SO I GET IT.

AND I JUST PULLED THIS ONE OUT FOR A REASON AND I APOLOGIZE FOR WASTE.

I'M NOT TRYING TO WASTE THE COURT'S TIME, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THESE THINGS. SO WHAT WE ENDED UP DOING IS SCORING COMMUNITY GOT TOGETHER AND WE WENT THROUGH THE EVALUATIONS THAT LAN WORKED UP FOR US IN THE MATRIX.

THEY DEVELOPED AND WE LOOKED AT IT, AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE BIDDERS CAME OUT EXACTLY THE SAME.

SO WHAT WE'RE COMING TO YOU WITH TODAY, THE ONLY SEPARATING FACTOR NOW IS PRICE POINT.

THEY WERE ALL EQUAL IN PERFORMANCE ACROSS THE BOARD, ALL EQUAL AND THEIR REFERENCES ACROSS THE BOARD.

THEY'RE ALL VERY REPUTABLE COMPANIES.

THEY HAVE THEIR NICHES HERE AND THEY'RE UP AND DOWN THE TEXAS COAST.

SO OUR RECOMMENDATION BASED ON PRICE POINT, NOW IT'S GOING TO BE RUSSELL MARINE.

THEY WERE LOW BID. THAT'S WHERE WE HAD TO GO.

NO, NO.

THAT'S THAT'S WHY I WISH YOU WOULD LET HIM FINISH.

SO. SO THE IRONY HERE IS THAT THE COMPETITIVE SEALED BID PROPOSAL.

ALLOWS US TO CHECK ALL OF THE DIFFERENT BOXES FOR BACKGROUND, PERFORMANCE, COMPETENCY, HISTORY, VIOLATIONS, VIOLATIONS, EVERYTHING, AND WHEN WE DO THAT, EVERYBODY LOOKS VERY COMPETITIVE AND VERY EQUAL.

SO THEN UNFORTUNATELY HERE AND IT'S JUST A RECOMMENDATION.

BUT THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE IS GO WITH THE LOW BID, BUT THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE COURT THEN TO CONSIDER.

SO THERE WERE THREE MAJOR BIDDERS.

ONLY ONE WOULD BE LOCAL.

THE LOW BIDDER WAS FROM GALVESTON, THEN THE OTHER BIDDER WAS FROM HOUSTON, AND THEY WERE THE SECOND LOWEST BIDDER.

AND THEN THE LAST BIDDER WAS LOCAL.

AND BUT THE SEPARATION IS STILL RELATIVELY SMALL DE MINIMIS.

SCOTT HARRIS IS ON THE LINE.

I DON'T KNOW IF HE WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO IT OR CYNTHIA WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO IT.

CAN I ASK THIS? BUT IN THIS CASE, THE LOW BIDDER DID NOT PROVE.

WHAT SOMETIMES YOU WOULD WANT, WHICH IS THAT IT WAS LOCAL.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THE SHEET.

I LOVE THE SCORING CHEAP IS LOCAL, IS LOCAL ON THE SCORING SHEET? YES, IT IS.

OK. YES.

BUT I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT LOCAL WAS NOT THE LOW BIDDER, BUT WE DID.

I MEAN, DID YOU? WELL, LOCAL LOCAL PARTICIPATION? NO. BUT THE SCORING MATRIX? NO. BUT WE THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.

A BODY WE CAN. WE CAN MAKE THAT A PART OF THE MATRIX.

I GET IT. BUT BUT IN YOUR SCORING PART OF THE MATRIX DID NOT INCLUDE LOCAL PARTICIPATION.

WE JUST LOOKED AT THEIR THEIR WORK PRODUCT ON A LOCAL BASIS.

YES. ANYTHING WRONG? I'M SAYING MAYBE THE MATRIX SHOULD CHANGE FOR THE FUTURE, BECAUSE FOR ME, HAVING A LOCAL ELEMENT IN THE MATRIX, IF THE COURT CONCURS, WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT OF A SCORING MATRIX. WELL, IT IS. IT IS IN THE HISTORY.

I WOULD SAY THAT IT DOESN'T SAY THE WORD LOCAL, BUT IN IN THE CONVERSATION OF WHAT IS HISTORY, WHAT IS PERFORMANCE? YOU ABSOLUTELY CONSIDER LOCAL COMMISSION.

WE WERE LOOKING AT PREVIOUS WORK PRODUCTS BY ALL THESE COMPANIES.

WE WERE LOOKING AT THOSE THAT WERE DONE DONE HERE LOCALLY THAT WERE COMPARABLE TO WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO BE DONE.

AND EVEN WE EVEN LOOKED AT THOSE THAT WEREN'T DONE HERE, LOCAL TO BE FAIR ABOUT EVERYTHING, TO SEE THAT IT WAS COMPARABLE TO WHAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO PERFORM AT.

WE LOOKED AT OSHAE HISTORY THAT DIDN'T HAVE THESE HAVE OSHA VIOLATIONS THAT HAVE FINES.

I MEAN, WE REALLY GOT INTO THE WEEDS ON THIS, SO WE VETTED THIS VERY CAREFULLY FOR YOU GUYS. I DON'T DOUBT THAT.

I JUST I WOULD LIKE TO PUT FORTH FOR THE COURT'S CONSIDERATION THAT GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE, THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING IN THE SCORING MATRIX REGARDING LOCAL PARTICIPATION, I'M GETTING THAT THAT IS NOT A PERMITTED TO YEAH, FOR SCORING, FOR THE SCORING, FOR THE SCORING MATRIX.

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MICHAEL ROBINSON IS COMMUNICATED TO ME THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE TO GIVE A LOCAL PREFERENCE. SHOW ME THE LAW OK, BUT BUT I WILL SAY THAT UNDER THE HISTORY, THE WAY THAT YOU CAN ADDRESS IT IS UNDER THE HISTORY AND COMPANY PERFORMANCE.

AND THAT IS WHY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE POINTS.

UM, THEY WERE GIVEN THAT ABILITY, BUT IT'S THIS COURT, THIS COURT CAN SAY WE THINK IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO BE LOCAL AND NOT GO WITH THE RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE THAT THAT HAS VALUE, YOU CAN DO THAT.

BUT THE RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME OUT OF THE COMMITTEE WAS LOW, LOW BID, ALL THINGS ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL.

YEAH, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ONLY THING WE COULD USE TO SEPARATE THEM AT THAT POINT.

NO. AND AND YOU ALL DON'T HAVE TO TAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION.

IT COULD BE TABLED AND THEN YOU CAN BRING IT BACK.

AND THERE'S A WHOLE NOTHER SERIES OF EVENTS THAT THAT Y'ALL CAN GO THROUGH TO LEGITIMIZE YOUR DECISION. BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT HERE.

YOU JUST HAVE TO EITHER TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION AND DECIDE TO TABLE IT.

I'D LIKE TO DO IS I'D LIKE TO I'VE GOT LEGAL QUESTIONS, SO I'D LIKE TO TAKE IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. LET'S DO THAT.

I WANT TO DECIDE SOMETHING TODAY BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET GOING.

WE DO NEED TO DECIDE TODAY ANYTHING TO DELAY THIS DEMOLITION.

SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR, I'M NOT I'M NOT ADVOCATING ANY KIND OF DELAY PAST THIS MEETING AT ALL. WE NEED TO MOVE.

SO I JUST HAVE LEGAL QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK.

RIGHT. SO WE WILL TAKE THIS UP.

SO, SCOTT, MAYBE YOU CAN.

IF YOU NEED TO GO, YOU COULD ALWAYS PARTICIPATE BY ONLINE.

OK. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TABLE THAT FOR A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE IN THE TIME FRAME AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SO THOSE QUESTIONS, IF YOU'D ASK MICHAEL TO GO AHEAD AND THANK YOU, I KNOW THAT TO BE THE CASE AS WELL. BUT WOULD YOU HAVE HIM TO SEND THAT LANGUAGE TO THE COURT? CAN SEE THAT. OK, SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, GO BACK TO YOUR REGULAR AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS ESTABLISHING THE INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING COMMISSION TO

[6. Discuss and consider establishing independent Redistricting Commission; to include investigating possible funding opportunities.]

INCLUDE A POSSIBLE AND AND SORRY SEMICOLON.

ALSO TO INCLUDE INVESTIGATING POSSIBLE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.

AND SO IT'S REALLY A TWO PART CONSIDERATION HERE.

SO, COMMISSIONER, YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS ON THIS.

I I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, I INDICATED I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM DOING IT WHEN FOR OUR COURT, IF THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS, WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE TIME. I THINK EVERYBODY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST OPEN, YOU KNOW, REDISTRICTING PROCESS EVER.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THIS COURT TO BIND FUTURE COURTS.

SO I I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO DO THOSE LINES TURNED OUT GREAT.

I MEAN, EVERYBODY WAS FINE.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO I DON'T WANT TO REVISIT REDISTRICTING UNTIL WE HAVE TO AGAIN. WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO JUST PUT THIS DOWN THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I'M NOT TRYING TO GET IT OFF THE AGENDA BECAUSE IN THEORY, WHATEVER, BUT TO BIND THE COURT 10 YEARS FROM NOW OR EIGHT, SIX YEARS FROM NOW, I MEAN THAT MOST OF US MIGHT NOT EVEN BE ON.

I MEAN, YEAH, THAT'S A THING THAT MAYBE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY COULD COULD GUIDE US.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT YOU COULD FORM SOMETHING AND THEN A FUTURE COURT WOULD DISBAND IT IF THEY WANTED TO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE IT.

SO WHAT'S THE POINT? RIGHT? I DON'T. I MEAN, IS IT IT? IN OTHER WORDS, I DON'T KNOW.

I GUESS THE POINT WOULD BE THAT FUTURE COURTS WOULD GET TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS.

WELL, THAT'S I'M SAYING. SO WOULDN'T YOU JUST WAIT AND PUT IT ON FOR AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE? JUST SURE, BECAUSE THE THING HERE IS TALKING ABOUT FUNDING AND EVERYTHING.

I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE JUST TO DO WHAT FOR THE NEXT NINE YEARS. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

I MEAN, FOR FOR WIND, THOUGH, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THIS AGAIN FOR NINE YEARS.

WELL, ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT IF IT NEEDS MORE VETTING TO ACTUALLY ESTABLISH IT, WE CAN DO THAT, BUT I KNOW I GAVE MY WORD THAT I WOULD SUPPORT AND AN INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING COMMISSION WHEN THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS CAME.

AND I MEAN, I PUT ON THE PART ABOUT POSSIBLE FUNDING BECAUSE I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE EXPLORED. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEBODY CHECKS INTO THAT.

MAYBE WE COULD TABLE TABLE THAT.

BUT I KNOW THAT IN ORDER TO HAVE THE TYPE THAT WE WERE HANDED, REMEMBER THE HANDOUT? I MEAN, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO HAVE, BUT I'M NOT FOR THAT.

I WILL TELL YOU, I'M NOT FOR SPENDING A HALF MILLION BUCKS.

I JUST KNOW THAT I'M NOT FOR THAT.

BUT THEY MAY HAVE ANOTHER SOLUTION.

TIM DARLING EVEN SAID HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE WAY LESS THAN THAT, SO I JUST WONDER IF HE'S ONLINE. I WOULD JUST THINK WE NEED TO PUT IT ON SO THAT SOMEONE HAS TO CONSIDER IT AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. BUT TO TRY TO, WE CAN'T BIND.

THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO TODAY THAT CAN BIND A COURT TO DO THIS EIGHT YEARS FROM NOW.

THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO. I AGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK ALL THE COMMITTEES ARE LIKE THAT.

I WOULD BE HAPPY SUPPORTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IF WE HAD SOME TIME FRAMES, LIKE IF WE TALKED IN GENERALITIES BY YEAR.

TWENTY TWENTY SEVEN, THE COMMITTEE IS APPOINTED BIPARTISAN COMMITTEE SELECTED OF, YOU

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KNOW, SO MANY INDEPENDENTS, DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS AND WE CAN KIND OF GET SOME SPECIFICS LIKE THAT. AND YEAH, WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO TAKE FUTURE COURTS TO DECIDE.

BUT BUT WE CAN PUT SOME, SOME DATES, SOME TIMEFRAMES TO IT, THEN THAT GIVES A LITTLE MEAT TO IT BECAUSE I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO BURDEN OURSELVES WITH, YOU KNOW, USING ANY TIME OR RESOURCES RIGHT NOW.

AND IT NOT BE HONORED.

I MEAN, I THINK IF WE CAN SHOW THE VALUE OF SAYING A FEW YEARS OUT, A COMMITTEE MUST BE SELECTED AND THIS IS WHAT WE RECOMMEND.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION, BUT TO ESTABLISH IT NOW TO BE IN EXISTENCE IN 30, YOU KNOW, IN 20, 30 OR BEFORE 2030 THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO HOLD EVEN TO THE BEST OF INTENTIONS.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN COME DOWN WITH WITH MAYBE A RESOLUTION THAT MAYBE HAS SOME SPECIFICS, MAYBE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN KIND OF SINK OUR TEETH INTO AND WHERE WHERE WE'RE ACKNOWLEDGING IT, WE'RE VERIFYING IT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, A WRITTEN, HOPEFULLY APPROVED RESOLUTION FOR FUTURE COURTS TO UNDERSTAND AND JUST PULL IT OUT AND SAY, OK, THE HARD WORK HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.

YOU KNOW, THESE DATES WERE SELECTED OR THESE YEARS WERE SELECTED, AND WE'RE FIVE YEARS OUT AND NOW WE NEED THIS KIND OF START GETTING OUR PLAN TOGETHER AND BE PREPARED BY YEAR TWENTY TWENTY SEVEN BECAUSE IN MY OPINION, THAT'S ABOUT THE TIME WE REALLY NEED TO START LOOKING AT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST TWO OR THREE YEARS OUT.

AND THEN SO SO WE WANT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, I'M NOT TRYING TO PUNT IT DOWN THE LINE, BUT I DO THINK THAT WHATEVER WE ESTABLISH NOW, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY WORK TO BE DONE FOR AT LEAST FIVE, SIX, SEVEN YEARS AT THE EARLIEST.

COULD YOU COULD YOU PASS SOMETHING THAT JUST SAYS THAT THAT THIS COURT IS RESOLVED TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA IN A YEAR CERTAIN FOR THAT COURT TO DETERMINE? SOMETHING LIKE THAT? HOW ABOUT SOMETHING IF WE? HOW ABOUT IF WE TAKE FIVE YEARS TO GET IT A LITTLE BIT MORE REFINED AND FOR CONSIDERATION, AND I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ON THAT WOULD EVEN, YEAH.

DR. SCOTT'S HERE, THOUGH SHE MAY.

SHE MAY. OH, DR. SCOTT, RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, I'M LOOKING THIS WAY.

HI, DR. SCOTT. I HAD SEVERAL I HAD PLANNED WHERE THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS OF THE NIGHT ADMITTED TO HIM. AND ALL OF US ARE WONDERING WHEN NOT TO PURSUE THIS WAY WAY BACK.

SO CAN THAT BE A DEFINITE YES? IT'S TABLE, IT'S TO WIN.

WELL, I THINK NOT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.

NO, I JUST MEANT TABLE THE AGENDA ITEM SO THAT WE COULD COME VISIT WITH YOU BECAUSE I THINK WHAT THE COURT'S LOOKING FOR ARE SOME REAL PARAMETERS.

I GUESS SOMETHING ACTUALLY LIKE A DOCUMENT THAT THAT YOU MIGHT SUGGEST FOR THE COURT'S CONSIDERATION. AND MY SUGGESTION IS, OR MY THOUGHT IS I DON'T THINK WE CAN BIND A FUTURE COURT TO DO ANYTHING.

I REALLY DON'T. I DON'T THINK WE CAN.

WE CAN'T MAKE THEM DO ANYTHING.

WE CAN'T FIND ANYBODY TO DO ANYTHING.

THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DO WE DO NOW? RIGHT. SO THE QUESTION WOULD BE IF WE SAY SOME SORT OF RESOLUTION THAT SAYS THAT IT WILL BE BACK ON THE COURT'S AGENDA AT A DATE CERTAIN FOR THAT COURT TO DETERMINE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T.

I DON'T. I I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY WORK BEING DONE ON THIS FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, HOW ABOUT IF IF WE TABLE THIS TIL ONE OF THE NEXT COURTS THIS MONTH OR NEXT MONTH AND IT GIVES ME A CHANCE TO MEET WITH THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS AND THE ADVOCATES AND LET ME BRING BACK SOMETHING THAT LOOKS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN JUST THE BLANKET SET UP A COMMITTEE MIGHT ONE DECIDE SOMETHING AND SAY IN JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR, WE CAN REALLY. LET ME LET ME JUST MEET WITH YOU GUYS, BECAUSE I THINK TIM DOWLING'S POINT WAS NOT FOR SEVEN YEARS FROM NOW, IT WAS IT WAS FOR IMMEDIATE.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO GET WITH HIM.

LET ME JUST GET WITH THE COMMISSION.

HE DID GIVE US SOME, SOME DATA AND SOME BEST PRACTICES THAT HE THOUGHT EL PASO HAD PUT TOGETHER. AND I THINK THERE'S AT LEAST ENOUGH INTEREST ON THE COURT TO TAKE ANOTHER STEP.

WE HAVE A COURT ON FEBRUARY 2ND, WHICH IS NEXT WEEK.

THAT MIGHT BE TOO SOON, DR.

SCOTT, BUT I CAN PLEDGE TO YOU IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS TO MEET WITH YOU ALL AND SEE WHAT PARAMETERS AN AGENDA ITEM OR A RESOLUTION MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY. I'M GOING TO TABLE TO FAB TWENTY SIX.

IS THAT RIGHT? TWENTY THREE.

SORRY. TODAY'S THE TWENTY SIX FED.

TWENTY THREE MOTION.

I'D LIKE A SECOND SECOND.

THANK YOU. OK. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I AND I WILL REACH OUT THIS AFTERNOON, DR. SCOTT, TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT MEETING SET.

AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS TO CONSIDER THE COMMISSIONERS

[7. Discuss and consider authorizing Commissioners Court Manager to retain employee recruiter firm to assist with recruitment of professional staff for medical examiner office.]

COURT MANAGER.

I'M SORRY. CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MANAGER TO RETAIN AN EMPLOYEE

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RECRUITER FIRM TO ASSIST WITH RECRUITMENT OF PROFESSIONAL STAFF FOR MEDICAL EXAMINERS OFFICE. I DID REACH OUT TO TETUM AND PUT A STAR REQUEST IN.

GIVEN THE VACANCY THAT WE HAVE IN THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY WERE UNABLE TO FULFILL THAT REQUEST AT THIS TIME, HOWEVER, THEY DID GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO.

THEY REFERRED ME TO A PARTICULAR FIRM AND I WOULD LIKE THE COURTS TO WEIGH IN ON HAVING THE COURT MANAGER AT LEAST EXPLORE THAT FIRM AND WHAT THEY DO IN HOPES THAT WE COULD RECRUIT SOMEBODY FOR THAT VACANCY IN OUR MEDICAL EXAMINERS OFFICE UNDER H.R..

REALLY, I MEAN, WHAT? WHY? WHY THE COURT MANAGER? WELL, THE COURT MANAGER WOULD WORK WITH HR OR YOU HAVE TO PUT SOMEBODY IN CHARGE.

SO ARE WE ABLE TO? DO THAT OR IN OTHER WORDS.

WELL, THERE IS A POSTED POSITION RIGHT NOW, SO IT IS POSTED ON SEVERAL WEBSITES, BUT OUR EXPERIENCE IS THAT.

AND THAT'S WHY THE STATE CAN'T ASSIST IS THAT THERE IS A NATIONAL SHORTAGE.

AND SO IN ORDER TO REALLY BE ABLE TO RECRUIT PROFESSIONAL STAFF AT THIS LEVEL THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR, WE NEED TO.

I CONSIDER CONSIDER THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TRULY RECRUIT, WHICH MEANS ASK SOMEBODY TO LEAVE ONE POSITION AND COME TO ANOTHER.

I AGREE THAT WE HAVE TO BE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROPER FASHION IS.

SO COULD THE MOTION JUST BE THAT WE AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY MANAGER TO BRING BACK TO US? CORRECT. WHAT THAT WHAT, WHAT THAT IS LEGAL.

I MEAN, LEGALLY, CAN WE DO IT? I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT IS.

IS SHOULD WE POST IT ON ANY WEBSITES? I DON'T KNOW. SO ALL OF THOSE HAVE BEEN DONE JUST SO YOU KNOW, THEY'VE ALL BEEN DONE.

THIS IS REALLY MORE.

THIS IS A PROFESSIONAL RECRUITER.

THIS IS TO DO ONE MORE STEP, I THINK TO ME HAS TO HIRE THAT PERSON WE CAN.

THAT'S CORRECT. BUT AT LEAST A PROFESSIONAL RECRUITER COULD COME AND BRING A DIFFERENT SET OF APPLICATIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY TAKING PEOPLE WHO AREN'T LOOKING FOR JOBS AND TRYING TO RECRUIT THEM TO LEAVE THAT JOB AND COME TO OUR JOB.

SO HERE'S MY PROBLEM.

BACK ON THE EMMY THING, THIS IS MY THEME FOR THE DAY, SO I'M NOT PICKING ON THIS ISSUE.

THIS IS MY THEME FOR THE DAY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO RIGHT NOW BASED ON WHAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD.

AND SO I'M NOT SAYING, NO, I'M JUST SAYING UNTIL WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. I'VE ASKED TO PUT THE ITEM ON THE EMMY BACK ON FOR DISCUSSION NEXT WEEK FOR THE AGENDA. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE A DECISION BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO COME OF EVERYTHING AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS HAPPENING AND KNOWING THAT THE ME HAS TO BE THE PERSON, I THINK THAT HIRES THIS PERSON.

WELL, ACTUALLY, BELINDA HAS FOUND A PART OF THE STATUTE THAT ALLOWS THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO WEIGH IN, I THINK.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, I THINK IT'S HIRED BY THE M.E.

BUT WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE COURT RIGHT NOW, THE APPROVAL OF AN APPROVAL, BUT THE M.E.

HAS TO HIRE. HE DOES HAVE TO HIRE.

HOWEVER, AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT YOU GIVE THE COURT MANAGER HR, REMEMBER THE COURT MANAGER IS OVER HR.

THE OPTION TO RETAIN A RECRUITER, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIND YOU CAN'T.

WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE A VACANCY.

NO, NO. AND WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S A NATIONAL SHORTAGE AND THAT IN THE PAST WE'VE GONE OUT FOR A YEAR LOOKING FOR CAN WE HOLD THIS UNTIL EXECUTIVE SESSION? I JUST, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S FINE.

I THINK IT CAN BE UNDER EMPLOYMENT.

YES, OK.

AS AN EXCEPTION TO THE IMPRESSION THAT WE'VE GOT.

BUT I REALLY WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF LAW AND JUSTICE IN THIS COURTHOUSE THAT WE NEED TO.

I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.

REALLY? GO GET SOMEBODY.

EXCELLENT. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE CONCEPT.

ALL RIGHT. I'LL HOLD. I'LL HOLD.

SEVEN. JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE GO BACK TO IT.

OK, LET'S GO TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT AND THAT'S DISCUSS THE STATUS WINTER STORM URI

[8. Discuss status on 2021 Winter Storm Uri reimbursement from TDEM/FEMA.]

REIMBURSEMENT, TETUM, FEMA.

WE'VE GOT CAITLIN PURPURA, CAITLIN TAYLOR ONLINE WITH HAGGERTY, AND WE HAVE SOME GOOD SYNOPSIS OF WHERE WE ARE ON THIS.

WE ALSO HAVE DALE AS WELL.

SO WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN? I'M GOING TO BRING UP MY FEMA, MY LATEST TETUM NOTES HERE FOR WINTER STORM.

CAITLIN TAYLOR, WOULD YOU JUST GIVE US THE BACKGROUND OF WHERE WE ARE ON THE.

ON WINTER STORM AND THOSE EMERGENCY PROTECTION MEASURES THAT HAVE BEEN AUTHORIZED TO HAVE SUBMISSIONS AND THEN JUST KIND OF TAKE IT FROM THERE AND ALLOW THE COURT TO ASK

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QUESTIONS, DALE CAN ALSO PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND ON FINANCES AS WELL.

YES, MOST CERTAINLY.

GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, CAITLIN, HERE AGAIN.

SO WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF MOVEMENT VERY RECENTLY WITH FEMA ON THE COUNTIES CATEGORY B, WHEN OR WHETHER FEMA PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROJECT.

IF YOU'LL RECALL FOR THAT, WHENEVER THE DISASTER FROM LAST FEBRUARY, FEMA ONLY ALLOWED OR MADE FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR EMERGENCY WORK.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN PURSUING.

WE'VE BEEN MEETING VERY FREQUENTLY WITH THE ASSIGNED PA DELIVERY MANAGER.

IT'S KIND OF THE POINT OF CONTACT WHO GATHERS ANY ADDITIONAL DETAILS OR CONTACTS NEEDED FOR THEM TO MAKE A FINAL DETERMINATION.

AND SO WE HAVE SEEN SOME, SOME MINOR TWEAKS.

FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WERE SOME BLANKETS AND SMALLER GENERATORS THAT WE REALIZED WERE PURCHASED BUT NOT ACTUALLY UTILIZED AS PART OF THIS DISASTER.

SO WE DID REMOVE THOSE ITEMS. THOSE WILL GO BACK INTO THE COUNTY STOCK.

AND IF YOU USE THEM FOR A FUTURE DISASTER IN WHICH THERE IS A DECLARATION, YOU CAN CLAIM THEM, THEN WE ALSO DID GET SOME FEEDBACK ON THE TREATING OF ROADS DURING THE DISASTER.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S CONSIDERED A SNOW RELATED ACTIVITY UNDER FEMA PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, AND WHEN REQUESTING A MAJOR DISASTER DECLARATION, THE STATE OF TEXAS HAD TO REQUEST THAT FOR PARTICULAR COUNTIES.

UNFORTUNATELY, NOYCE'S COUNTY WAS NOT ONE OF THOSE THAT DID GET THAT SNOW ACTIVITY SPECIFIC DECLARATION.

SO WE DID HAVE TO REMOVE THOSE TREATMENTS.

THAT WAS VERY COMMON FOR COUNTIES AND CITIES ALL OVER THE STATE AND GOES ONLY TWO OR THREE THAT DID GET THAT DECLARATION.

AND THAT NEWS CAME AVAILABLE TO US AFTER WE SUBMITTED THE APPLICATIONS.

SO WE DID HAVE TO DECREASE THAT A LITTLE BIT.

WE ALSO SUBMITTED A LATE DAMAGE INVENTORY REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL TIGER RENTAL COSTS FOR WATER AND THEN THE EMERGENCY RENTAL GENERATOR FOR R&B.

THOSE WERE COSTS THAT WERE DISCOVERED AFTER THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED.

SO WE DID SUBMIT A FORMAL REQUEST TO HAVE THOSE INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT.

AND THAT'S ANOTHER JUST UNDER SEVENTY THOUSAND OF EMERGENCY COSTS.

BUT ALL IN ALL, WE'RE STILL ON THAT BACK AND FORTH WITH FEMA.

I THINK THE EXCITING THING IS IS THAT WE'RE MEETING WITH THEM WEEKLY, SO WE'RE REALLY HAVING SOME PRODUCTIVE BACK AND FORTH, WHEREAS BEFORE THEN WE GOT A COUPLE REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION AND WOULDN'T HEAR BACK.

SO I THINK WE'RE REALLY CLOSE TO GETTING THIS MOVE TO THE NEXT PROJECT, WHICH WILL BE GOING TO THE CRC TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM TO MAKE FINAL DETERMINATIONS AND THEN HOPEFULLY GET THIS PROJECT OBLIGATED AND AWARDED VERY SOON.

AND CAITLIN, JUST SO THE COURT HAS AWARENESS, SO THE PREPARATION FOR THE ROADS WAS WHEN PUBLIC WORKS, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY PUT THE SALT IN THE OTHER OTHER.

WHATEVER COMPOSITE THEY PUT ON THE ROADS FOR PROTECTION, THAT WAS AN AMOUNT THAT WAS UNDER $10000, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT WAS ABOUT FOUR THOUSAND.

AND IT WAS MAINLY PUBLIC WORKS, FORCE ACCOUNT, LABOR AND THEN EQUIPMENT CORRECT.

AND JUST TO BE SUPER CLEAR, THE REASON THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIND REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT IS BECAUSE WE WERE NOT WE DID NOT HAVE ANY SNOW ACCUMULATION THAT SEEMS QUITE HARSH.

I'VE ALREADY EXPRESSED MY OPINION TO FEMA ABOUT THAT AS WELL AS TETUM.

WE DIDN'T RECEIVE SNOW, BUT TEXTS SHUT DOWN EVERY ONE OF OUR BRIDGES FROM JFK CAUSEWAY ALL THE WAY TO THE HARBOR BRIDGE.

IT SEEMS BIZARRE THAT THEY WOULD NOT REIMBURSE US FOR THAT, WHICH WAS OBVIOUS, WHICH IS THAT IF TEXAS SHUTS DOWN ALL YOUR BRIDGES, YOU WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD ACQUIESCE TO THE IDEA THAT YOU SHOULD PREPARE YOUR ROADS.

SO WHAT WE DID WAS IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

BUT IT JUST DOESN'T QUALIFY BECAUSE IT NEEDED WE ACTUALLY HAD TO HAVE SNOW, APPARENTLY IN ORDER TO QUALIFY. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE FOUGHT REALLY HARD FOR THAT $4000.

AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CONFIRMATION OF PHYSICAL SNOW.

YES, AND DESPITE THE WAY THAT THE ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS WAS AFFECTED, AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONE ACTIVITY THAT MOST ENTITIES WE'RE DOING RIGHT TREATING THEIR ROADS, WE ARE IN THE SAME BOAT, UNFORTUNATELY, AS THE MAJORITY OF THE STATE AND NOT RECEIVING THAT ALLOW LIABILITY. OK, AND YOU'LL KEEP US ALL POSTED, AS CAITLIN SAID, WE MEET WITH THEM EVERY WEEK.

WE'VE HAD LOTS OF GOOD PROGRESS IN THE LAST, I'D SAY, TWO THREE WEEKS AND WE'LL KEEP THE COURT UPDATED WITH REGARDS TO ANY MOVEMENT THAT THAT MIGHT HAPPEN.

ARE THERE ANY ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD A KAITLYN BEFORE I OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS? DO YOU HAVE SOME, SOME ESTIMATES JUST FOR THE COURT'S AWARENESS, SO AFTER WE REMOVED

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THOSE ITEMS, THE VALUE OF THE PROJECT WAS TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY THOUSAND ABOUT.

AND THEN WITH THE LATE DAMAGE INVENTORY REQUESTS.

SO WE'RE ADDING THAT TIGER RENTAL WATER AND GENERATOR AGAIN KNOW THEY'LL STILL NEED TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON THOSE COSTS, BUT THAT WOULD BRING YOU BACK UP TO JUST UNDER THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY THOUSAND.

AND WHAT WILL WE BE SUBMITTING THE WHOLE THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY? THAT'S THE THAT'S THE AMOUNT YOU'LL WILL BE SUBMITTING.

THEY WON'T SUBMIT THEIR.

WE LOST YOU JUST FOR A SECOND.

I APOLOGIZE, I'M HAVING SOME CONNECTIVITY, I SEE IT.

I WAS JUST ASKING THAT IF IF THAT'S IN OTHER WORDS, YOU HAD TO SUBTRACT A FEW THINGS LIKE THE PUBLIC WORKS, YOU KNOW, THE FOUR THOUSAND SO IS 340 ALL IN.

THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE SUBMITTING FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

BUT YOU SAID I THOUGHT YOU SAID, I APOLOGIZE, I'M HAVING CONNECTIVITY ISSUES, SO CAITLIN, IF YOU WANT TO JUMP IN, BUT WITH THE LATE DIE REQUEST, YOU'D BE BACK TO JUST UNDER THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY THOUSAND. OK, THAT'S ALL.

THAT'S ALL I WAS JUST CONFIRMING.

THAT'S IT. OK, NOW WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS OF CAITLYN ON THE TETUM FEMA.

I HAVE A QUESTION, JUDGE.

GO AHEAD. ON THE REQUEST FOR REIMBURSEMENT, WHAT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT SUBMITTED TO THEM AND HOW MUCH HAS IT HAS BEEN REIMBURSED TO THE COUNTY? FOR THE WINTER STORM, NOTHING'S BEEN REIMBURSED YET.

THE HAGERTY AND MARIA WILL BE THE ULTIMATE SOURCE OF FUNDING HOW MUCH HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DO THE SUBMISSIONS.

OKAY. THE REIMBURSEMENT REQUESTS INCLUDE THE WATER DISTRIBUTION DISTRIBUTION TO HOSPITALS. IF SO, THEY TREAT THEM AS PROOF THE REIMBURSEMENT.

AGAIN, YOU'LL HAVE TO ASK THAT OF KEN, AND I BELIEVE THAT SHE JUST MENTIONED TIGER ABOUT ABOUT WATER AND OTHER SOURCES, SO I BELIEVE THAT WAS ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THERE IN THE REQUEST.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT QUESTION TO YOU.

SHE ALREADY GONE. NO, NO, SHE'S HERE.

CAITLYN DID.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD HEAR THE QUESTION.

YEAH, I'M AVAILABLE.

SO THE THE QUESTION IS THREEFOLD.

IT'S ONE.

WHAT IS THE AMOUNT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO REQUEST FOR TETUM REIMBURSEMENT? HOW MUCH HAS BEEN RECEIVED? AND I THINK YOU'VE ANSWERED BOTH OF THOSE.

BUT WOULD YOU REPEAT THOSE? AND THEN THE THIRD HAS TO DO WITH.

WHAT ABOUT THE SUBMISSION FOR WATER? DOES THAT IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE THREE 40? AND I JUST EMAILED TO ALL OF YOU.

AND MAYBE SOMEBODY CAN FLIP IT TO COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ.

IT'S SIGNED BY DR.

ALBERT BELLO, CEO OF CHRISTOPHER SPAHN.

DR. JACK CORTESE, PRESIDENT OF THE NOYCE'S COUNTY MEDICAL SOCIETY.

ERIK EVANS, CEO OF CORPUS CHRISTI MEDICAL CENTER.

ERIC HEYMAN, PRESIDENT CEO OF DRISKEL HEALTH SYSTEM.

HILLARY WATT, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND CEO AND CFO OF COASTAL BEND REGIONAL ADVISORY COUNCIL. OUR TRAUMA UNIT.

AND THIS LETTER WAS REQUESTED AS PART OF OUR JUSTIFICATION, AND IT SPEAKS TO THAT THE LOCAL MEDICAL FACILITIES AND I QUOTE, WERE UNABLE TO LOCATE EMERGENCY WATER OR WATER DELIVERY SERVICES AND REQUESTED EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE FROM NOYCE'S COUNTY.

AND IT GOES ON FURTHER TO SAY THAT WE SOURCED, COORDINATED AND FUNDED EMERGENCY WATER DELIVERY THAT WERE CRITICAL TO MEDICAL FACILITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY AND THAT SIGNED BY ALL PARTIES.

AND THAT IS GOING THAT IS SUBMITTED TO TETUM.

BUT IS IT REIMBURSED? IT IS. SO GO AHEAD, CAITLIN.

SO, COMMISSIONER, WE'RE WE'RE NOT YET AT THE STAGE WHERE WE'RE RECEIVING OR SUBMITTING REIMBURSEMENT REQUESTS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT THAT'LL TAKE PLACE AFTER THE PROJECT IS FORMALLY AWARDED, BUT FEMA IS CONDUCTING A HIGH LEVEL REVIEW FOR ELIGIBILITY OF THOSE COSTS.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE PROVIDED SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE WATERY DELIVERY WATER DELIVERIES AND WE'LL PROVIDE THE THE MEMO THE JUDGE JUST REFERENCED TO SUPPORT THOSE COSTS.

BUT WE'RE UNFORTUNATELY NOT AT A STAGE WHERE FEMA IS TELLING US DEFINITELY YES OR NO.

SO ONCE THIS PROJECT IS FORMALLY AWARDED, THEN THE COUNTY WILL SUBMIT REIMBURSEMENT REQUESTS TO THE STATE, AND THAT'S WHEN YOU'LL RECEIVE SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT BACK REIMBURSEMENT ON ELIGIBLE COSTS, IF YOU'LL RECALL, UNLIKE COVID.

THIS IS A STANDARD SEVENTY FIVE TWENTY FIVE FEDERAL SHARE, WHICH MEANS THAT FEMA WILL PAY FOR SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT OF YOUR ELIGIBLE COSTS.

THE COUNTY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OF THOSE COSTS.

THAT'S YOUR LOCAL SHARE, YOUR LOCAL MATCH.

SO WE'RE NOT YET AT THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE GIVING US A YES OR NO.

BUT AS I, AS I MENTIONED, WE DID HAVE TO REMOVE SOME COSTS FROM THE PROJECT AS PART OF

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THIS PROCESS. THE WATER DELIVERY SERVICES IS NOT IN THAT BOAT.

IT'S A SUPER LONG PROCESS, AND WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO GETTING TO THAT SUBMISSION, BUT WE'VE IT'S BEGUN SINCE THE DAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN THE WINTER STORM IS OVER, THEN OUR RECOVERY BEGINS.

AND THIS IS PART OF WHAT GRANT'S EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HAGGERTY, OUR OFFICE DOES, IS PROVIDE ALL OF THE IMPORTANT DOCUMENTATION THAT'S REQUESTED AND REQUIRED.

AND THEN THERE'S A BIG PORTAL SYSTEM.

AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE MEETINGS WITH THEM EVERY SINGLE WEEK.

WE AND THE OTHER TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOUR COUNTIES ARE DOING THE SAME THING AND WE'RE GETTING VERY CLOSE TO FINISHING AS PROVIDING THEM WHAT THEY WANT.

AND THEN AFTER THEY GET ALL THE INFORMATION, THEN THEY MAKE A FINAL DETERMINATION BASED ON WHAT WAS OPEN, WHICH IS CALLED WHAT THE WHAT'S THE CATEGORY? IS IT CATEGORY FOUR EMERGENCY PROTECTION CATEGORY B B EMERGENCY OR DISASTER? SO CATEGORY B WAS FEDERALLY DECLARED AND WE ONLY WORK WITH WHAT'S FEDERALLY DECLARED.

SO WE'RE NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO SUBMIT TO FEMA UNLESS YOU HAVE A FEDERAL DECLARATION IN A PARTICULAR CATEGORY.

SO EVERYTHING THAT IS ELIGIBLE UNDER CATEGORY B WILL BE SUBMITTED.

NOW, I UNDERSTAND, AND I DON'T MEAN TO TAKE TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME, BUT YOU DID SAY YOU WERE, YOU HAD TO REMOVE, YOU HAD TO REMOVE SOME OF SOME OF THE ITEMS. CAN YOU SAY WHAT KIND OF ITEMS YOU HAVE TO REMOVE? YEAH, CERTAINLY SO THOSE WERE SOME BLANKETS THAT WERE PURCHASED, SOME GENERATORS, PERSONAL PORTABLE GENERATORS AND THEN THE WATER, EXCUSE ME, THE ROAD TREATMENT ACTIVITY COSTS THE ROAD TREATMENT.

YOU KNOW, AS WE DISCUSSED, THAT WAS BECAUSE SNOW ACTIVITIES WAS NOT PART OF THE DECORATION, THE BLANKETS AND GENERATORS.

WE REALIZED LATER THAT ALTHOUGH THEY ARE PURCHASED FOR THIS DISASTER, THEY WEREN'T UTILIZED AS PART OF THE RESPONSE.

SO THOSE ITEMS ARE BACK IN THE COUNTY STOCK.

AND IF THEY ARE UTILIZED AS PART OF A FUTURE RESPONSE TO, LET'S SAY, A HURRICANE AT THAT POINT IN TIME, IF THERE'S A DECLARATION, YOU CAN SEEK REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT STOCK USAGE.

AND THEN WE ALSO REMOVED THE THIS WAS MUCH EARLIER ON THE TURTLE BURIAL COSTS.

FEMA DID NOT AUTHORIZE CATEGORY A DEBRIS REMOVAL, AND THEY ULTIMATELY SAID THAT THEY FELT THAT THAT FELL INTO THAT CATEGORY RATHER THAN CATEGORY B.

THOSE COSTS WERE ALSO MINIMAL ABOUT FOUR THOUSAND.

AND LIKE I SAID, LUCKILY, THIS OPPORTUNITY HAS PROVIDED US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT THE ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR TIGER RENTALS.

SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THOSE WILL GET INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT AND OBLIGATED.

AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE'RE SUBMITTING COMPLETED COSTS AS PART OF THIS AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, SO THEY ALREADY HAVE ACCESS TO CONTRACTS, INVOICES, PROOF OF PAYMENT.

SO ONCE IT IS AWARDED THE THE PROCESS WITH THE STATE TO ACTUALLY RECEIVE REIMBURSEMENT SHOULD BE FAIRLY SHORT BECAUSE WE'LL JUST ONE REQUEST FOR ALL THE COSTS.

WE'VE ALREADY GOT EVERYTHING SUBSTANTIATED, ALL THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTATION.

SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT ONCE WE GET IT AWARDED, IT SHOULD BE FAIRLY SIMPLE FROM THERE ON OUT AND WE CAN MOVE TO CLOSE OUT AND WRAP IT UP ENTIRELY.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OK, NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU.

AND AGAIN, MAYBE IT'D BE HELPFUL ON THE BLANKETS AND THOSE INDIVIDUAL GENERATORS.

THOSE WERE ALSO MINIMAL COSTS, AND MAYBE YOU CAN IDENTIFY THOSE LATER JUST IN AN EMAIL.

BUT IF ANY OF YOU ARE WONDERING WHY YOU'D WANT A SMALL LIKE THE TYPE YOU'D GET AT HOME DEPOT OR LOWE'S INDIVIDUAL GENERATOR, IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE LEARNED THAT THOSE PEOPLE LIVING ON, FOR EXAMPLE, OXYGEN TANKS OR SOME SORT OF LIFE SAVING MEDICAL DEVICES AT HOME DURING CRITICAL TIMES THAT THEY ACTUALLY SOMETIMES CAN'T LEAVE THEIR HOME.

BUT WHEN THEY LOSE ELECTRICITY AND POWER, THEIR LIVES ARE COMPROMISED.

AND SO THESE INDIVIDUAL GENERATORS THAT WILL NOW HAVE IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WILL BE AVAILABLE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THOSE DELIVERIES IF NEEDED OR IF REQUIRED.

AND THIS DEFINITELY COMPORTS WITH OUR NEW STATE LAW THAT REALLY ASKS US AND OBLIGATES US AS A COUNTY TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT OUR VULNERABLES ARE.

ARE REALLY CHECKED ON DURING THESE TIMES OF EMERGENCY, AND SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT NEW TOOL THAT WE'LL HAVE, AND I HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE TO BUILD UP OUR STRATEGIC RESERVE OF ALL OF THE LIFE SAVING DEVICE.

POWERED GENERATORS, OK, WELL, WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON, THAT'S INFORMATION ONLY AND HEARING NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE.

AND THAT'S ASKING DALE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER AS A COURT REGARDING

[9. Discuss and consider approval of any accrued overtime hours pursuant to County policy for essential exempt employees during declared disasters as it relates to COVID-19, including COVID-19 testing during Omicron surge, and/or storm preparedness and response; severe weather preparedness and response.]

THE OVERTIME HOURS PRESENTED.

YES, YOUR HONOR LAST COURT.

YOU ALL AUTHORIZED THE MY OFFICE TO TRACK THE EXPENSES FOR OUR TRACK, THE TIME FOR

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OVERTIME, SHOULD THERE BE YOUR APPROVE THE FUNDING SOURCES FOR IT FOR THE LAST TWO WEEKS? WE DID TRACK THE TIME FOR THE EMPLOYEES THAT SUBMITTED THE REQUEST ON EITHER YOU'VE BEEN PROVIDED FORM SHOWING YOU THE THREE EMPLOYEES THAT DID QUALIFY AND SHOW TIME.

MR. EDWARD HERRERO FOUR FOR TESTING AND MULTIPLE SITES FOR MULTIPLE HOURS.

AND THEN DR. WILMUT AND MRS. CHAVEZ FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOR SMALL HOURS.

TOTAL NUMBER OF HOURS THAT WAS TRACKED WITH SEVENTY FOUR POINT TWO TWO HOURS.

A TOTAL COST OF THREE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND THREE DOLLARS.

AND TWENTY SEVEN CENTS, WITH THE MAJORITY GOING TO MR. HERRERA AT SIXTY NINE POINT NINE FOUR HOURS.

THAT'S A TIME IN HOURS THAT HAS BEEN ACCRUED AND SUBMITTED FOR YOUR EVALUATION AND APPROVAL. OK, SO A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I HAVE A QUESTION, JUDGE YES.

ON THIS. IS THIS ALSO DOES IT ALSO INCLUDE HOURLY EMPLOYEES OR IS IT JUST ABOUT EMPLOYEES? HOURLY EMPLOYEES ARE REQUIRED TO BE PAID OR DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.

THEY'RE ALL THEY'RE ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE CHOICE DEPARTMENT LABOR THAT REQUIRES HOURLY EMPLOYEES TO BE PAID OVERTIME IF THEY ACCRUED IT.

HOW ARE THEY? ARE THEY BEING PAID LIKE TEN PERCENT OR PAY THEIR HOURLY RATE, THEIR HOURLY RATE AND OVERTIME RATE THIS TIME AND HALF? OKAY. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE TO APPROVE GOING FORWARD, TOO, RIGHT? WELL, ONCE YOU DO THIS, THEN THEN WE HAVE TO ASK THE COURT AGAIN IF YOU WANT TO GO IN AND TRY IT THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

SO JUST TO DETERMINE THE LAST TWO WEEKS, THIS NUMBER OF HOURS AND THE AMOUNT OF COMPENSATION, IF YOU SO APPROVE AND THEN WE'LL THEN ASK YOU WHY, IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, OK, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND TAKE IT SEPARATELY ON THE MOTION TO GO FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWO WEEKS.

AND I'LL LOOK FOR A SECOND AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU. OK.

MOTION AND A SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

OK, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I.

ALL RIGHT. OK, POST SAME SIGN.

OK, RIGHT? THREE NAYS. OK, THEN THE MOTION DOES NOT PASS FOR THE CLERK.

AND ON WHAT ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE OVER TIME BE? CONTINUED FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, TRACKING PURPOSES, YES, I MEAN, FOR TRACKING PURPOSES.

OK. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

WELL, LET ME MAKE A MOTION TO TRACK.

AND IS THERE A SECOND? CHECK. OK AND MOTION A SECOND AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TRACKING OVER TIME FOR THE PURPOSES OF OUR APPROVAL TWO WEEKS FROM NOW SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I LET ME DO EYES, THEN A POSTING THE SIGN IT'S EASIER FOR THE CLERK.

I I'M SORRY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I.

OK AND THEN OPPOSE SAME SIGN.

NO. OK.

COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

NO. OK, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE TRACKING OVER TIME FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

OK, LET'S MOVE ON TO BE ONE.

AND. AND THE TRUTH IS, IS THAT, DALE, MAYBE IT DOESN'T GET TRACKED FOR YOU IN THE SENSE TO PRESENT IT, BUT IT ALWAYS IS TRACKED INSIDE OUR ACTIVITY LOGS.

I NEED TO MAKE SURE I REMEMBER AND MAYBE I WISH CAITLIN HADN'T JUMPED OFF.

BUT UM.

IF WE YEAH, WE'LL NEVER MIND, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T PAY, YOU CANNOT GET REIMBURSED, SO.

RIGHT. SO THERE'S NO WAY TO GET REIMBURSED, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ALLOWED TO TO SUBMIT.

OK, WELL, I'LL MOVE ON TO THE HEALTH DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC HEALTH WORKFORCE

[1. Discuss and consider public health workforce retention pay for all eligible Health District employees to be funded through previously approved Department of State Health Services agreement supporting the public health workforce participating in the Coronavirus 2019 (COVID) response.]

RETENTION PAY FOR ALL ELIGIBLE HEALTH DISTRICT EMPLOYEES TO BE FUNDED THROUGH DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND HEALTH SERVICES AGREEMENT.

AND YES, ATTORNEY WANTED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THAT ONE.

OK. IS THAT CORRECT? STILL, INFORMATION THAT WE'VE NOT BEEN GIVEN ON THOSE? OK, CAN YOU ANNOUNCE WHAT THAT IS? HE'S RIGHT HERE. I'M WONDERING IF HE COULD ASSIST US IN GETTING IT SO THAT WE COULD AT LEAST DISCUSS IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

OK, WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO TO DETERMINE IS WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENTS THAT, UM, THAT OUTLINED THIS PROCESS AND THE APPLICATION AND IN THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION, THE PROCESS FOR THIS AND THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION AND.

WE HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO DETERMINE WHETHER THIS TRACKS WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE ON THEIR SIDE AND DOES IT HAVE TO AND WE'RE STILL GATHERING INFORMATION.

OK, I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE DR.

LEWIS ELMONT. YOU RECOGNIZE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S LOOKING FOR THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION.

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AND I CAN TELL YOU, FIRST AND FOREMOST, IT DOES NOT TRACK WHAT THE CITY DID, BUT IT DOES TRACK WHAT THE STATE APPROVED.

WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO IN THE TIME THAT WE HAVE GET THOSE DOCUMENTS TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, SHE'S ASKING FOR THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION, THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT THAT YOU PRESENTED TO THE STATE AND.

ABSOLUTELY, JUDGE, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT, BECAUSE SO WE DO THIS, THIS GRANT WAS TO THERE WERE TWO GRANTS, ONE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE COUNTY SIDE AND ONE FOR THE CITY SIDE AS IT ADDRESSED BOTH COUNTY AND CITY EMPLOYEES.

SO AS IN AN EFFORT TO TRY TO SMOOTH OVER THE PROCESS AND PAYING THESE EMPLOYEES CITY SIDE VERSUS COUNTY SIDE. SO THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT GRANTS.

ONE WAS IN THE AMOUNT OF $900000, WHICH WAS FOR THE COUNTY SIDE.

THE CITY SIDE WAS A $1.5 MILLION FOR THAT PARTICULAR SIDE.

AND WE'VE BEEN AWARDED THESE GRANTS AND WE ACCEPTED THOSE GRANTS.

THAT IS CORRECT. AND SO THIS IS JUST TO APPROVE THE FORMULA.

THE THE COUNTY APPROVED THE APPLICATION OF THE GRANT AND THE COUNTY ACCEPTED THE AWARD OF THE GRANT, AND THIS IS TO APPROVE THE FORMULA FOR THE GRANT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THE FORMULA THAT WAS SUBMITTED SUBMITTED THAT WOULD CONFORM WITH THE GRANT THAT WE ALREADY APPROVED? YES. CAN WE CONFIRM THAT WE DID FROM THE ADMINISTRATION SIDE? I BELIEVE WE HAVE ALREADY ACCEPTED THIS GRANT.

WE ACCEPT THE GRANT WITH ALL THE TERMS OF THE GRANT.

DOES THE COURT, IN MY RECOLLECTION, THE COURTS ALREADY APPROVED THE GRANT.

IS THAT CORRECT? LOUIS, THAT IS CORRECT.

SEPTEMBER THE 8TH, SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ADHERING TO THE GRANT'S TERMS. YES. OK, SO IN MY MY OPINION, IT WOULD BE VERY SMART.

WE COULD ALWAYS WE GO BEFORE EXECUTION AND SOMETIMES WE TAKE A 15 MINUTE BREAK.

IF YOU WOULD USE THE TIME WISELY, I'M GOING TO CONTINUE ON OUR AGENDA.

BUT THOSE DOCUMENTS, FRANCISCO SITTING RIGHT THERE IS A LITTLE BUSY RIGHT NOW, BUT HE'S SITTING RIGHT THERE.

IF YOU WOULD SEE WHAT HE'S LACKING, YOU GUYS CAN USE MY OFFICE.

SEE HOW YOU CAN GET HIM WHAT HE NEEDS SO THAT WHEN WE DO EXECUTIVE SESSION, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE FRUITFUL.

YES, MA'AM. OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO I'M GOING TO CALL ON MARIA AT THIS TIME AND THAT C ONE.

[1. Discuss and consider approval of proposal(s) for media services related to vaccine outreach and education.]

AND THIS IS THE PROPOSAL OF MEDIA SERVICES RELATED TO VACCINE OUTREACH.

THIS IS ANOTHER GRANT.

YOU'LL RECALL THE LAST TIME WE WERE, WE CHALLENGED TO HER DEPARTMENT TO BRING US SOME MORE PROPOSALS, AND SHE'S DONE THAT FOR US TODAY.

YES, SO GOOD MORNING, IT'S STILL MORNING.

WE DID RECEIVE AGAIN BACK ON JANUARY 5TH, WE BROUGHT YOU THE TV PROPOSAL AND THEN WE WERE ASKED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PROPOSALS TO BE FUNDED UNDER THIS GRANT.

THIS GRANT, AGAIN, WAS THE TEXAS VACCINE OUTREACH AND EDUCATION ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY EIGHT THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS.

AND WE GOT ADDITIONAL PROPOSALS FROM CRS COMMUNICATIONS, LOPEZ BROADCASTING, THE ISLAND MOON, PORT ARANSAS SOUTH JETTY, AS WELL AS THE RECORD STAR, THE ROBERTTOWN RECORD STAR.

AND IN LOOKING AT THE PERIOD FROM NOW UNTIL THE END OF THE GRANT, THE GRANT ENDS ON AUGUST 10TH. WE WOULD SHOOT FOR ENDING THE THE SERVICES ON JULY 31ST JUST TO MAKE IT A LITTLE CLEANER. GIVE US SOME TIME FOR GRANT CLOSEOUT IN ACCEPTING ALL THESE PROPOSALS.

KARIUS KARIUS COMMUNICATIONS HAS A PROPOSAL FOR SEVENTY NINE POINT FIFTEEN A MONTH FOR A SIX MONTH COMMITMENT.

KARIUS TV IF YOU REMEMBER ON JANUARY 5TH, YOU APPROVED ONE MONTH COMMITMENT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.

WE'RE WORKING ON THE THE CONTENT OF THE ADVERTISING THAT WILL BE CONDUCTED AND THEN THERE ARE FIVE MONTH PROPOSAL.

OUTSIDE OF THAT, ONE MONTH COMMITMENT IS SEVENTY EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH.

RECORD STAR IF WE DO, THEIR ADS ARE WEEKLY.

IT IS TWO HUNDRED AND NINETY SEVEN, TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SEVEN DOLLARS AND 19 CENTS A WEEK. THE ISLAND MOON IS TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS A WEEK AND THE PORT ARANSAS SOUTH JETTY IS THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS AND FORTY TWO CENTS FOR THE MONTH.

SO IF WE RUN THESE CAMPAIGNS FROM FEBRUARY 1ST TO JULY 31ST, WE WILL ACTUALLY STILL HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN THE GRANT.

WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A BALANCE OF TWENTY TWO THOUSAND TWENTY FOUR DOLLARS AND NINETY TWO CENTS. OK AND AND THE PROPOSALS WERE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM.

THE ONLY ONE WE WERE LACKING AT THE TIME OF SUBMISSION WAS THE RECORD STORE.

YEAH, GOT ALL THIS ISLAND MOON SOUTH GENTLY.

BUT BETWEEN ONE OH, FOUR AND THEN I'M LOOKING.

WHICH ONE DO YOU NEED? I MIGHT HAVE GOT IT ALL.

NO, I MEAN, I'VE GOT. DID YOU GET THE CHANNEL SIX? PUT IT IN A TOTAL. I DO HAVE A SPREADSHEET, IF YOU LIKE TO SEE THAT BECAUSE I'M HAVING TO

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GO BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN SIX DIFFERENT PAGES.

AND IF IT WOULD BE, I DON'T MEAN TO STEAL YOUR ONLY SPREADSHEET, BUT IF YOU WANT TO PRINT THEM, KNOW SHE'S PRINTED THEM ENOUGH FOR EVERYBODY.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE. OK, THANK YOU.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. AND THE ONLY, YEAH.

THANK YOU, MARIA, YOU'RE ALWAYS PREPARED.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS SPREADSHEET, WE BROKE IT DOWN BY THE MONTHS AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD ALREADY THE COURT HAD ALREADY APPROVED THAT ONE MONTH COMMITMENT FOR ITV, SO THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT YOU SEE THERE FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY.

IF THE OTHER PROPOSALS ARE ACCEPTED, WE WOULD RUN THEM FROM FEBRUARY 1ST TO JULY 31ST AND THEN WE BROKE IT DOWN ALSO BY, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE CONTENT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT WITH KRS COMMUNICATIONS AND LOPEZ BROADCASTING.

BUT FOR THE PRINT MEDIA, WE DID TRY TO MAKE IT COMPARABLE.

SO REALLY, THE ADS WOULD RUN CONSISTENTLY FROM FEBRUARY 1ST TO JANUARY 31ST AND THE ADS WOULD BE BLACK AND WHITE, AND THEY'RE ALL SO COMPARABLE SIZES.

WHAT ABOUT, UM, UNIVISION, THE CALLER-TIMES OR UNIVISION PART OF SOMEBODY? YES, THEY ARE A PART OF, I BELIEVE, CHANNEL.

I'M SORRY, ITV AND THEN TELEMUNDO IS PART OF KRS COMMUNICATIONS.

ONE HUNDRED PERCENT SURE ON THAT.

YES, OK. AND THEN CALLER-TIMES, I DON'T SEE IN HERE THE ONE WE WERE TRYING TO.

SO PART OF THE GRANT APPLICATION WAS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO TRY TO.

OBVIOUSLY, IT'S FOR THE UNVACCINATED POPULATION.

AND THEN OUR TARGET AUDIENCE REALLY WAS THE SPANISH SPEAKING.

SO BASED ON THE SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF HEALTH, WE, YOU KNOW, WE REALIZED THAT IT WAS THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE UNVACCINATED ARE SPANISH SPEAKERS, WHICH IS WHY WE WERE TRYING TO GET KIND OF OUTSIDE OF JUST THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA.

WE CAN AGAIN, THERE'S A BALANCE HERE, ABOUT TWENTY TWO THOUSAND.

SO IF WE WANT TO INCLUDE CORPUS CHRISTI CALLER TIMES, WE CERTAINLY CAN.

ACTUALLY, THE ROBERTTOWN RECORD STAR IS KIND OF CALLER-TIMES IS NOW PART OF LIKE A USA TODAY. I THINK IT'S A NEW COMPANY CALLED GANNETT, SO THEY HAVE SIMILAR SIMILAR ADVERTISING RATES AND COVERS A LOT OF THE WEST LONDON AREA.

YEAH, LET ME JUST SAY THAT ON THE CALLER-TIMES TIMES, WE HAVE AN ACTIVE PRESENCE ON THE CALLER-TIMES, BUT IT COMES FROM THE HEALTH DISTRICT.

SO IF YOU READ THE PAPER, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S ADS CONSTANTLY IN THE CALLER-TIMES, BUT IT COMES FROM THE HEALTH DISTRICT.

SO I FEEL LIKE THE CALLER TIMES IS COVERED.

AND SO JUST FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I DO BELIEVE THE CALLER TIMES HAS A VERY ACTIVE ROLE WITH US ON PUBLIC HEALTH MESSAGING AS WELL AS IHEART MEDIA, AND THAT'S WHY YOU WON'T SEE IHEART MEDIA ON THIS AS WELL.

YOU HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF WHERE THE MOST BECAUSE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE TO REACH THE UNVACCINATED. YOU HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF WHERE THE MOST UNVACCINATED PEOPLE ARE IN THE COUNTY. YES, I KNOW THE JUDGE DOES, AND I KNOW THERE'S A WHOLE DASHBOARD FOR THAT.

AND THE THE UNIQUE THING ABOUT TRIPLE TV AND CARE AS COMMUNICATIONS AS THEY DO WHAT THEY CALL ADDRESSABLE GEOFENCING SO WE CAN ACTUALLY GIVE THEM.

THEY CAN DO MORE TARGETED ADVERTISING TOWARD A SPECIFIC POPULATION, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, HOUSEHOLDS WITH CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 18 THAT ARE SPANISH SPEAKERS, THEY CAN THEY COULD REALLY HONE IN ON, YOU KNOW, THE POPULATION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SERVE, AS WELL AS JUST ADDRESSING A SIMPLE ZIP CODE AND TELL ME WHEN YOU SAY POPULATION, WHICH WILL SERVE, SO IT'S NOT JUST UNVACCINATED, IT'S UNVACCINATED.

IT'S UNVACCINATED, IT'S UNVACCINATED.

WE'RE NOT. SO, YEAH, WE'RE NOT FOR THIS PARTICULAR GRANT.

WE'RE NOT ADVERTISING BOOSTERS.

WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO TARGET THE ONES THAT HAVEN'T RECEIVED A SINGLE VACCINE.

OK, SO AND I WOULD I MEAN THE THE THE MOON AND THE JEDI SEEM A LITTLE LIGHT TO ME, BUT CERTAINLY THE JEDI WITH JUST THOSE LITTLE FOURTH PAGE ADS TWICE A MONTH, THAT'S NOT GOING TO DO A WHOLE LOT. I'D REALLY LIKE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT.

AND ACTUALLY, I MEAN, IF THAT'S WHAT THEY SUBMITTED.

BUT I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY A NO, IT'S THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS AND FORTY TWO CENTS FOR THE ENTIRE MONTH. RIGHT.

SO IT'S I MEAN, IT'S FOR A FOUR QUARTER PAGE AD, BUT IT'S FOR ALL THE WHOLE MONTH.

YES, IT'S FOR THE WHOLE MONTH.

SO THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR LIKE THE MOON AND THE JEDI REALLY LIKE POUND, THE ISLAND AND PORT ARANSAS. BUT IF THAT'S A SUPER HIGH VACCINATION AREA, THEN I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT IF IT'S IF, IF IT'S ABOUT WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE IS, THEN THEN I'M NOT SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE, SAY, I WANTED TO SEND US BACK AND MAKE SURE WE HAD EVERYBODY INVOLVED, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST GO BACK AND TALK TO THE JEDI ABOUT IT.

I MEAN, THE MOON'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THEY REALLY POUND.

I MEAN, THEY GET THE WORD OUT ON STUFF OUT THERE ON THE ISLAND AND PUERTO RAMSI'S.

SO WELL, AND I KNOW THE ROB STONE RECORD DOES THE SAME THING IN THEIR PART OF THE COUNTY.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHY I REALLY WANTED TO GO BACK AND HIT THESE SMALL SMALL ONES, TOO,

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BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE SMALL, THEY'RE MIGHTY.

SO I WOULD THINK WATER WAS PRETTY HIGH ON KNOW.

THAT'S WHAT I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW. YEAH, I I THINK THE WHOLE THING IS TO COMPORT WITH THE ZIP CODES THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED ON OUR HEALTH EQUITY REPORTS.

AND I THINK YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AGAIN, BUT JUST JUST KNOW THAT THIS IS A VACCINE HESITANCY GRANT AND IT'S BEING BEING UTILIZED TO SEEK DATA IN THE ISLAND.

SO I KNOW THAT. BUT IT THERE'S THERE'S THERE IS A METHODOLOGY AND REMEMBER THEY SUBMITTED TO US, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GRANTING WHAT THEY SUBMITTED TO US.

YEAH. BUT IF IF WE WANT TO GO WORK FOR THEIR SALES TEAM, LET'S GO BACK AND TELL THEM TO, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK THAT WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS IS WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ASKING THE COURT TO APPROVE. IT'S WHAT THEY SUBMITTED.

YEAH, LIKE THE MOON DID IT EVERY WEEK, THE JETTY.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU PROPOSED IT TO THEM OR I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU PRESENTED IT TO THEM, BUT I'M SURPRISED THAT IT'S ONLY THE JETTY RUNS EVERY WEEK, TOO.

I'M SURPRISED THEY DIDN'T COME BACK WITH ONCE A WEEK, TOO, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU PRESENTED IT TO THEM. AND I'M NOT SAYING YOU DID ANYTHING WRONG AT ALL.

DON'T, PLEASE DON'T. BUT I MEAN, THE MOON AT LEAST CAME IN AND SAID, OK, WE'RE GOING TO.

WE WANT TO DO IT WEEKLY. I WOULD THINK THAT JETTY WOULD AT LEAST JUST NEED TO BE WEEKLY, AND THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY.

SO, YEAH. SO THESE ARE WEEKLY.

SO THESE PRICES, SO IF YOU NOTICE IN THE KIND OF COLORED SECTION, THE ISLAND MOON FOR A FIVE AND FIVE POINT FIVE, FIVE AND FIVE BLACK AND WHITE, IT IS TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS A WEEK, RIGHT? SO AND THEN TIMES THAT FOUR WEEKS, THAT'S WHERE THAT NINE HUNDRED DOLLARS COMES FROM.

THE JETTIES WEEKLY TWO, THERE ARE A HUNDRED DOLLARS A WEEK FOR A FOURTH MEASURE.

BOY, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. HEY, I MEAN, I WAS LIKE, WHO ARE YOU WORKING FOR A MAN? I MEAN, GOLLY.

ADS LIKE THAT IN THE JETTY? WELL, IT'S GREAT.

LET'S LET'S KEEP IT LOW.

THEY RECENTLY CHANGED THEIR THEIR ADVERTISING, SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY OFFERING A 15 PERCENT DISCOUNT. THERE YOU GO. SO YOU SEE KIND OF A A LOWER PRICE THAN NORMALLY YOU WOULD SEE FOR THE SOUTH, JENNY.

IT'S A GOOD. IT'S A GOOD PRICE.

OK, I DID. YOU KNOW, BEST CASE SCENARIO, DID WE HAVE THE FUNDING TO REALLY RUN THESE ADS EVERY DAY FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS AND WE AND WE DO RIGHT? OK, AND I THOUGHT SOMEBODY FROM LOPEZ BROADCASTING WAS GOING TO BE AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT. THEY'RE IN HERE AS WELL.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THEY DO REACH OUT TO A LARGE HISPANIC POPULATION, OK? AND THEY DO A LOT AND LOTS OF TIMES THEY DO A LOT OF FREE ADVERTISING.

THEY ARE OFFERING BASICALLY A FREE MONTH.

YOU KNOW, IF THE PROPOSAL IS APPROVED, THEY CAN START, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN START RUNNING ADVERTISEMENTS. NOW, IF THEY, YOU KNOW, IF WE IF WE APPROVE.

AND IF THIS DID, DID ALL OF THESE ALSO INCLUDE PRODUCTION SO THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT THREE AND SIX IS THAT THEY'LL ACTUALLY PRODUCE THE CONTENT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS SHOOTING THE COMMERCIAL OR SHOOTING THE VIDEO OR USING CANNED VIDEO LIKE I SAW I'VE SEEN PREVIOUSLY.

BUT FOR THE RADIO, DO WE NEED TO SUPPLY THE VOICEOVER THE CONTENT OR DOES THAT INCLUDE PRODUCTION? IT IS IN LOPEZ BROADCASTING AND PRODUCTION IS INCLUDED FOR CHRIS AS WELL.

IF WE WANT TO USE TALENT, THERE IS A TALENT FEE OF, I BELIEVE, EIGHT HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS EXTRA. OK.

ALL RIGHT. AND SO IS THERE A MOTION THEN TO I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE A JOKE THAT I'LL DO IT FOR FAR LESS THAN THAT, BUT I'M NOT A TALENT.

WELL, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO DO THE ADS, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE.

IT WAS JUST A JOKE.

ONE OF THE BEST VOICES FOR RADIO.

I'M JUST KIDDING. SO I WOULD MOVE THAT WE AND AGAIN IHEARTRADIO IS BEING COVERED BY THE HEALTH DISTRICT. IS THAT CORRECT? AND THAT'S THE OTHER BIG SPANISH SPEAKING OUTLET.

SO I DO THINK WE'RE COVERING A GOOD, A GOOD VARIETY.

AND AGAIN, BEFORE THEY START RUNNING, SOME OF THIS WOULD BE NICE IF WE SAW THEM SAW THE HEARD, THE RADIO ADS, SAW THE TV ADS.

I'D LIKE TO SEE HIM. SURE, SURE.

SO KAY BAILEY TV JUST SHARED JUST KIND OF A REAL DRAFT SCRIPT, AND WE'LL HAVE CHRIS AND LOPEZ BROADCASTING IN.

AND ALSO PUBLIC HEALTH REALLY DOES DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF VETTING.

I MEAN, WE'RE NOT USING THEM TO BE THE SUPPLIER OF THE MEDICAL PIECES OF IT, BUT THEY DO ALL THE ALL THE THE EMOTIONAL, THE THE NICE CONTENT OF OF THE FAMILIES.

AND YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK OTHER AGENCIES THAT ARE THAT HAVE RECEIVED THIS GRANT, THEY'RE REALLY USING KIND OF THE STANDARDIZED CONTENT THAT'S PUT OUT BY THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND HEALTH SERVICES. OBVIOUSLY, WE WANT TO BE A LITTLE MORE UNIQUE AND KIND OF DO IT OUR OWN WAY, RATHER THAN USING THIS KIND OF THE SAME THING THAT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SEE.

YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE POINT IS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ATTENTION TO VACCINES, AND WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE UNIQUE IN THAT ASPECT.

AND THEN MAYBE WHAT WE COULD DO IS CREATE LIKE SOME SORT OF A ZIP FILE OR SOMETHING WHERE ALL OF IT GOES IN, RIGHT? WE'LL PUT ALL THE CONTENT, WE CAN GET IT TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND THEN I'M SURE THAT IT'S ALLOWED. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF IT CAN BE REPRODUCED ON OUR NEWEST NEWS.COM

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WEBSITE AND THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD BE ALLOWED TO ALSO PROMOTE, YOU KNOW.

IF THAT'S IN OTHER WORDS, I GUESS THEY CAN JUST LIKE IT OR OR DO SOME SORT OF A TAG TO IT, BUT JUST MAKE SURE WHAT THE WHAT THE COPYRIGHT OR THE OPPORTUNITY IS TO TO CROSS COLLATERALIZE ON OUR OWN PLATFORM, RIGHT? SO FOR EXAMPLE, KHETRAPAL MIGHT'VE SAID, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE PRODUCE, IT'S IT'S YOUR WORK PRODUCT. SO EVEN IF WE WANTED TO USE THAT SAME LIKE ADVERTISEMENT FOR, YEAH, NEW ACS KNOWS, IF WE WANT TO PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE, WE WANT THE CONTENT AS OURS.

SAME THING WITH CHRIS SUPER.

THEY'RE WILLING TO SHARE THE SUPER.

ALL RIGHT, THEN. SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSALS.

THE FIVE MONTH PROPOSAL FROM KAY TV, THE SIX MONTH PROPOSAL FOR AREA SIX COMMUNICATIONS LOPEZ BROADCASTING.

AGAIN, THAT'S A SIX MONTH COMMITMENT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, RECORDS ROBERTS AND RECORD STAR OF THE ISLAND MOON AND SOUTH.

YOU KNOW, JEDI, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN TELL ME, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW, HOW MUCH YOU WANT THOSE ADS TO RUN. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE ON A WEEKLY BASIS.

AGAIN, I PROPOSE THAT WE DO IT FOR THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE GRANT PERIOD AND THERE'S MONEY ENOUGH IN THE GRANT TO DO SO.

I'D MAKE THAT MOTION SUBJECT TO MAKING SURE YOU DO AT LEAST HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE CALLER TIMES AND MAKING SURE THAT'S KIND OF IN SOME.

IF THAT WE NEED TO GET BACK IN THERE AS WELL.

YEAH. AND SINCE OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, EACH OF THESE COMPANIES OR ANY OF THEM MAY EXCEED THAT THOUSAND MARK, DO YOU WANT TO EXERCISE AN EXEMPTION IN THIS CASE TO TO FIND? I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD ON THIS RIGHT? NOT WITH THIS PROJECT.

NO, BECAUSE IT ADDS UP TO SOMETHING ELSE.

RIGHT? I GUESS.

WELL, WE JUST ONE.

WE'RE NOT FOR THIS ONE.

WE'RE GOOD. GOOD.

BUT I GET WHAT SHE'S SAYING.

I THINK IT'S JUST IF THE COURT DOES ANY OTHER BUSINESS WITH CARELESS COMMUNICATIONS OR COURT TV, IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU JUST HAVE TO BRING IT BACK AT THAT TIME THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. I THINK YOU JUST HAVE TO BRING IT BACK AT THAT TIME.

AND AND JUST REMEMBER THAT PUBLIC MESSAGING IS GOING TO BE ONGOING, EVEN IF WE LOOK LIKE WE'RE COMING DOWN FROM OMICRON.

I'M SORRY TO SAY THIS, BUT I'M SURE THERE'S ANOTHER VARIANT SOMEWHERE LURKING.

AND SO I THINK THE IDEA OF PUBLIC MESSAGING IS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE AS LONG AS FEMA PR IS AVAILABLE. RIGHT? AND THEN THERE'S THE THAT'S WHY I LIKE CROSS COLLATERALIZED IT BECAUSE WHAT WILL BE FREE IS WHEN WE ESTABLISH OUR, YOU KNOW, THE MESSAGING ON OUR OWN PLATFORMS LIKE THE WEBSITES AND AND SOME OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA.

AND THAT WAY WE OWN IT AND WE CAN, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO TO UTILIZE THAT.

OKAY. OK, SUPER.

WELL, I THINK THERE'S A MOTION I THOUGHT I HEARD IT DIDN'T.

OKAY, I'LL I'LL MOVE.

BRANT, YOU HAD A MOTION RIGHT UNTIL SECOND IT GONZALES.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, I THINK, OK.

YEAH, I THINK HIS SUBJECT TO MARIE IS JUST CHECK WITH, YOU KNOW, ONE MORE TIME WITH THE WITH THE CALLER. BUT AS I SAID, I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN WE'RE ROBUST ON THE HEALTH DISTRICT SIDE. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE OVER TO DID I SAY ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, I YOU DID. OK.

ALL RIGHT. I DON'T THINK I HAD, BUT I SAID, OK, NOW I'M SAYING I, I OK.

MAYBE I WAS JUST SAYING I FOUR.

ALL RIGHT. YES.

OK. UM.

UM. OK, UM.

PURCHASING. WHERE PUBLIC WORKS, DO YOU ONE? DISCUSSING SELECTION OF TURNER DEMITASSE ARCHITECTS FOR ARCHITECTURE ENGINEERING SERVICES

[1. Discuss and consider selection of Turner Ramirez Architects for Architecture and Engineering services for interior renovations at the Calderon Building; discuss and consider approval of Architecture and Engineering Service contract]

FOR INTERIOR RENOVATIONS AT THE CALLED IT OWN BUILDING.

AND THEN THE SECOND PIECE IS THE ACTUAL ARCHITECTURE AND ENGINEERING SERVICE CONTRACT AND.

GO AHEAD. RAIN JUDGE COMMISSIONERS POLO WORKS IS RECOMMENDING THE SELECTION OF SELECTION OF TURNER REMEDIES ARCHITECTS FOR THE ARCHITECT AND ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THE INTERIOR RENOVATIONS OF THE DOME BUILDING.

THIS IS TO RENOVATE THE EXISTING CLINIC AREA AND TO DO SOME UPGRADES AND ALSO TO EXPAND THAT AREA. I KNOW ON THE CONTRACT IT SAYS ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING, BUT LATER WE'LL COME BACK AND DO THE ENGINEERING PART OF IT.

IT'S REALLY JUST ARCHITECTURAL.

YES, MA'AM. SO WE'LL JUST MAKE THAT MODIFICATION.

YES, MA'AM. AND COULD THIS BE A CONTRACT THAT WOULD ALLOW SOME FLEXIBILITY SO THAT HE'S LOOKING AT BASICALLY ARCHITECTURAL WORK FOR CALDERON IN ITS ENTIRETY AND THEN DEPENDING ON WHAT WE WHAT WE SELECT? WELL, I THINK THE WAY THIS CONTRACT IS, JUDGE IS TO LOOK AT THE CLINIC AREA AND ALSO

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EXPANDING SOME OF THESE ROOMS THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE MORE SURE WE CAN COME BACK TO COURT AND REQUEST THAT FROM A TURNAROUND.

MEET US FOR LOOKING AT THE WHOLE THING.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY SINCE WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. WE STILL HAVE TO GET THE ROOF ON AND THERE'S STILL SO MANY QUESTION MARKS.

IS THERE ANY WAY YOU COULD HAVE FLEXIBILITY SO THAT HE WOULD HAVE A CONTRACT TO LOOK AT HOLISTICALLY THE CALDERON BUILDING? SO IT'S NOT JUST SO, SO NARROW.

I THINK I THINK COMMISSIONER MATTERS CAN PROBABLY ANSWER IT, COMMISSIONER, WHEN YOU TALK TO COMMUTERS WHEN HE WAS OUT THERE.

SO IT'S WELL INITIALLY JUDGED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE IS TO LOOK AT FEASIBILITY OF A CLINIC AND THAT'S TIED IN TO THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY RIGHT NOW.

THE PUBLIC HEALTH DISTRICT.

BUT THERE ARE MORE ITEMS. THERE HAVE BEEN MORE ITEMS ON THE CALDERON SIDE THAT JUAN AND MANJARI HAVE ASSISTED ME WITH IN REVIEWING ROUGHLY ABOUT A YEAR AGO NOW AT THE REQUEST OF CONSTABLE OSCAR MENDOZA.

HE WE'VE TAKEN SOME PHOTOS IN HIS OFFICE.

IT'S VERY IT'S NOT.

IT WAS MADE FOR ITS ORIGINAL INTENT, WHICH WAS IT STILL HAS SOME WALLS, SOME LOAD BEARING WALLS. MY MISTAKE, IF I'M CORRECT, THAT'S CORRECT.

OF. SIR, JAIL CELLS.

AND YOU STILL SEE PART OF THOSE IN PLACE AND THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED TO BE ABLE TO STILL ALLOW MORE ROOM, MORE OFFICE SPACE, MORE STORAGE SPACE.

SO THAT'S ALSO PART OF A BIGGER, MORE HOLISTIC LOOK AT AT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH CALDERON.

SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT BE INCLUDED JUST BECAUSE THAT REQUEST IS GOING ON A YEAR NOW, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING RESOLVED FOR FOR CONSTABLE MENDOZA, HIS HIS OFFICERS ARE SHARING LITERALLY BROOM CLOSETS OR SMALL SPACES THAT YOU CAN.

IT'S NOT EVEN ENOUGH ROOM FOR ONE PERSON, MUCH LESS SEVERAL OFFICERS.

SO THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF PROBLEMS GOING ON THERE, AND THAT'S NOT ALSO INCLUDING THE NEED OF JUDGE GONZALEZ OUT THERE AND JUST WITH HIS HIS SPACE THAT HE RUNS VERY, VERY THIN WITH HIS STAFF, THAT HE HAS.

SO THERE'S A LOT TO BE LOOKED AT WITH THE CALDERON BUILDING.

YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS LOOKED AT THIS AS WANTING TO HAVE AN OPEN OPTION.

I'M NOT GOING TO SAY NO TO ANYTHING RIGHT NOW.

I WANT TO SEE THE FEASIBILITY THAT'S BEEN VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, DO WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE SAY, IS THIS NOT FEASIBLE OR IS THERE SOMETHING BETTER SUITED FOR THE GRAND NEEDS THAT WE HAVE? THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING I'M NOT PUTTING TO REST YET.

THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT TO CONSIDER AS WELL.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CLINIC SPACE OR OFFICE SPACE FOR THE CONSTABLE OR FOR FOR THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE COURTS, SO SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'VE BEEN THINKING I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT FOR FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW.

SO THAT'S PART OF THE BIGGER PICTURE AND SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALL DISCUSSED WITH ALONG WITH PUBLIC WORKS AS WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS ENTIRE PROJECT.

YEAH, I MEAN, I AGREE.

I MEAN, THAT'S I WAS MY POINT IS THAT IT SEEMS IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'VE IDENTIFIED SOMEBODY THAT YOU WANT YOU WISH TO WORK WITH AND HE CAN DO.

PROBABLY MORE THAN JUST ONE LITTLE THING.

IT SEEMS TO ME YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO WASTE THE WIFE'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO NOT LOOK AT THESE THINGS THAT YOU'VE REALLY IDENTIFIED, THIS IS YOUR CHANCE YOU HAVE CAUGHT EXCITED ABOUT MOVING FORWARD IN THIS DIRECTION.

I WOULD JUST TAKE A MUCH BROADER APPROACH.

AND I TOO AGREE I WAS GOING TO FLAG IT.

BUT YOU'VE ALREADY FLAGGED IT.

THIS CONTRACT IS INCORRECT.

IT SAYS THAT IT'S FOR ENGINEERING CONTRACT AND IT'S NOT.

IT'S FOR ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES.

AND SO THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.

AND OF COURSE, I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO MAYBE WINCE WHEN I SAY IT, BUT THIS IS NOT THE CONTRACT THAT I LIKE.

THIS IS THE CONTRACT THAT WE TRY TO GET RID OF.

THE AIEA CONTRACT IS THE RIGHT CONTRACT FOR ARCHITECTS.

IT'S THE ONE THAT ARE KENT BROWN SPENT MONTHS AND MONTHS ON.

I WISH THAT YOU WOULD RECONSIDER.

I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD THIS UP FOR IT, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE NOT USING THE BEST CONTRACTS THAT PREVENT PROBABLY INCONSISTENCIES.

AND AND JUST PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD USE THE CONTRACTS THAT THAT ARE DESIGNED TO TO PROTECT THE COUNTY THAT THAT WE'VE PUT A TON OF EFFORT BEHIND.

HAVING SAID THAT, I REALLY WANT TO SEE, LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT'S EXCITING.

I WOULD JUST OPEN IT UP BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THESE TWO OTHER ISSUES WITH CONSTABLE MENDOZA.

JUDGE GONZALES. AND THEN PERHAPS THE CLINIC GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING

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BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO SAVE MONEY THAT WAY IN THE LONG RUN AND JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS WE DID GIVE. I KNOW WHEN WE MET COMMISSIONER LAST YEAR WORKS THAT ARE PRELIMINARY LAY AND MET WITH THE CONSTABLE AND ALSO WITH THE COMMISSIONER, AND WE JUST GOT A AND WE GAVE THAT ALSO TO TO FILL UP SO HE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT ALSO.

SO JUDGE, THE CONTRACT DOES SAY TO PROVIDE ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING SERVICES.

I DON'T, I GUESS THAT DOES THAT MEAN I DON'T KNOW IF THE VIRUS HAS, AND HE'S JUST NOT GOING TO DO ANY ENGINEERING.

THAT'S ALL. HE MAY HAVE ENGINEERS ON SITE, I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S JUST OUR STANDARD CONTRACT FROM THE COUNTY AND IT SAYS THE SAME THING FOR THE ENGINEERING. IT'S GOING TO SAY ARCHITECTURE AND ENGINEERING.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WORKS FOR ARCHITECTURAL PURPOSES.

AND THEN IN THE NEXT QUARTER, WE'LL COME BACK FOR THE ENGINEERING PART OF IT.

OK, SO THIS IS JUST A. IT'S OUR STANDARD.

SO I GUESS, WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT OUR STANDARD CONTRACT? IF IT SAYS ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERING, THEN I GUESS THAT'S HOW IT'S GOING TO GET PUT ON THE ON THE AGENDA. AND I GUESS THAT'S GOING TO HOW IT'S GOING TO BE AS BACKUP IF YOU'RE SUGGESTING JUDGE TO EXPAND THIS FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO MORE ON THAT BUILDING, IF THAT'S WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.

BECAUSE I THINK JUST SEEING MENDOZA'S CONCERNS ARE LEGIT, AND I THINK IT SOUNDS LIKE NO MATTER WHAT WE DO WITH THE HEALTH DISTRICT, WE'RE INTERESTED IN DOING SOME CONVERSION FOR CALDERON, WHETHER THAT'S THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I'M SAYING THAT I LIKE THE IDEA AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE.

I WOULD. I WOULD HAVE STRUCTURED IT JUST, YOU KNOW, HIRE HIM FOR ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES FOR CALDERON BUILDING.

AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HE NEEDS TO GO IN THERE AND LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THE MOST SENSE ARCHITECTURALLY AND START WHEREVER YOU WANT TO START.

BUT THE FUNDING IS YOUR THE FUNDING IS WHAT ONE JUDGE AND COMMISSION.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT POSSIBLE EITHER ARPA MONEYS OR I KNOW COMMISSIONER.

WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN WE COME UP WITH ARPA FUNDS AS NUMBER ONE OPTION, AND I SEND THAT TO THERESA.

I GUESS I TEND TO WRITE UP.

AND NUMBER TWO WOULD BE, I'LL SEND YOU SOME PICTURES OF YOU.

WELL, YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THERE, BUT WE ALL HAVE ANYWAY.

YOU KNOW, THE SECOND OPTION WOULD BE COMMISSIONER MATTIS AND I WOULD SPLIT IT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS FOR THE ARCHITECT AND THE ENGINEER.

THE THIRD OPTION, I GUESS NOBODY WANTS TO PAY FOR IT.

I GUESS I WOULD PAY FOR IT. YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO GET THIS THING DONE.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO, WHICH I'M THEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU JUST SAID, WELL AGO THAT SOMETHING REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING AND YOU'RE RIGHT, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING. I AGREE.

ONE FACE ONE NEEDS TO BE DONE IS FASTER THAN PHASE TWO.

BUT BUT THOSE ARE THE THOSE ARE THE FUNDING OPTIONS.

THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE CIP FUNDS.

I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY WE HAVE CEOS TWENTY TWENTY ONE AND I'M HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, GO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER A THIRD OR THIRD OR THIRD OR WHATEVER.

BUT THE FORTY EIGHT THOUSAND IS VERY CLEAR, IS VERY NARROW.

IT'S A VERY NARROW LOOK AT THIS ONE PARTICULAR AREA.

SO I DOUBT THAT THE FORTY EIGHT THOUSAND WOULD COVER EVERYTHING, BUT IT MIGHT.

BUT MY BIG CONCERN IS, IS THAT JUDGES FOR THAT AREA? RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I'M FIGURING HERE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THIS CONTRACT IS VERY NARROW.

I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT THAT AREA.

THAT'S WHY. WELL, MAYBE WHAT WE SHOULD MAKE.

CAN I TRY THIS? CAN WE? I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY REASON WE COULDN'T AMEND MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO TO INCREASE THE SCOPE AND INCREASE THE THE THE THE POTENTIAL AMOUNT AND.

ALSO USE TWENTY TWENTY ONE SIP CEOS, I MEAN, I AGREE IT'S A VERY GOOD PROJECT AND I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD. I DON'T THINK YOU ALL HAVE TO SHOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR IT OUT OF PRECINCT FUNDS BECAUSE THIS IS A THIS IS GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY A COUNTYWIDE TYPE PROJECT AND I THINK WE SHOULD SUPPORT IT.

I MEAN, I AGREE WITH THAT.

I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT MEETS THE MARK FOR AAP AT ALL.

AND IN THE SENSE OF WHAT IT WHAT IT QUALIFIES FOR, IT JUST DOESN'T QUALIFY EXCEPT FOR GOVERNMENT SERVICES, AND IT'S NOT A GOVERNMENT SERVICE TO QUALIFY.

SO I'M JUST. NO, YOU WERE JUST AND IT MIGHT QUALIFY.

BUT THE POINT IS, LET'S DON'T.

I MEAN, LET'S I MEAN, THIS IS A COUNTY WIDE PROJECT THAT WE THINK THAT WE ALL THINK IS IMPORTANT AND IN ONE WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, WE'RE GOING TO CONVERT THAT BUILDING INTO SOMETHING VERY POSITIVE WE NEED TO CONSIDER.

CONSTABLE MENDOZA'S OR SORRY.

GOT. RIGHT. AND AND COMMISSIONER MONAHAN, COMMISSIONER EXAMPLES ARE BOTH ADVOCATING FOR THE PROJECT. SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE CONTRACT.

I JUST TO EXPAND THE SCOPE FOR FOR MR. RAMIREZ, TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THE ENTIRE BUILDING WITHIN, LET'S SAY, WOULD IF WE EXPANDED THEM MONEY TO $100000 AND THAT BE 20 20 CEOS, WOULD THAT UP TO NOT? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL TAKE THAT MUCH, BUT JUST SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP COMING BACK FOR FIVE DOLLARS.

AND I'M NOT. AND DON'T YOU CAN'T SPEND IT IF IT'S NOT REALLY NEEDED.

BUT I'M JUST SAYING WE COULD APPROVE UP TO RIGHT NOW.

AND JUAN CAN OVERSEE THAT TO MAKE SURE HE DOESN'T OVERENGINEERED.

AND I DON'T THINK IT WILL. GOOD GUY.

WELL, AND THAT WOULD BE JUST, YOU KNOW, TYPICAL ARCHITECT.

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I MEAN, I'M BEING VERY, VERY BROAD, BUT WOULD BE 10 TO 12 PERCENT OF THE WHOLE TOTAL COST. SO WHEN YOU GO UP TO ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND, YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT THAT'S ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH PROBABLY TOO MUCH.

SO I JUST I ALSO YEAH, AND I ALSO WANT TO SUGGEST THAT AND I'M REALLY BEING VERY HONEST.

I WANT TO SEE THIS HAPPEN, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE THESE CONTRACTS.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE THESE CONTRACTS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THE BEST CONTRACT THAT THE COUNTY CAN DO. IT MIGHT BE THE EASIEST TO READ AND SIMPLIFIED, BUT IT'S NOT THE RIGHT ONE, AND IT'S NOT THE ONE THAT OUR LEGAL HAS ALREADY VETTED FOR ARCHITECTS.

TELL ME WHICH ONE YOU WANT. IT'S THE I SAY IT'S THE RIGHT ONE FOR FOUR.

IT'S THE ONE WE'RE USING ACROSS THE BOARD RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET EVEN WITH EVERYBODY TO USE THE RIGHT CONTRACT.

SO IT'S THIS THICK, OK, IT IS COMPLEX, BUT IT'S PROTECTS US.

OK, SO HAVE YOU LOOKED OVER THAT AA KENT BROWN IS KIND OF THE GO TO THERE? OK. SO THEN ALL RIGHT.

SO LET'S DO IT ONE OF THE TIME.

SO MAYBE YOU'RE RIGHT. MAYBE THAT BECAUSE FORTY EIGHT MAY BE ENOUGH BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO SPEND A MILLION DOLLARS OUT THERE RENOVATING THAT PLACE. I MEAN, IT CAN'T BE THAT MUCH OF A RENOVATION NEEDED.

SO MAYBE WE START WITH THIS AMOUNT.

EXPAND THE SCOPE, I THINK FOUR HUNDRED AND SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND TOTAL.

SO SO THIS SHOULD BE ENOUGH THEN REALLY.

SO LET'S LET'S LET'S GO WITH THIS, BUT EXPAND THE SCOPE AND USE THE AIEA CONTRACT THAT KENT BROWN HAS ALREADY FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS ALREADY LOOKED OVER.

WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE FOR EVERYBODY? I MEAN, I CAN. I CAN.

I CAN SUPPORT THAT.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

CAN WE BRING IT BACK NEXT WEEK DURING NEXT WEEK'S MEETING? OR I YOU? I THINK WE CAN DO IT RIGHT NOW AND JUST MAKE THAT SUBJECT TO YOU.

YEAH, I THINK SUBJECT TO THOSE THINGS, IN OTHER WORDS, MOST WOULD BE TO APPROVE.

GOT YOU TO APPROVE THIS.

DO IT TO BRING THIS MOTION IN A SECOND.

YEAH, LET ME RESTATE IT. I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE THE FUNDING SOURCE.

LET ME COUNTY CLERK DID KNOW WHAT THE MOTION IS.

SO THE MOTION IS TO TO APPROVE TURNER RAMIREZ, ARCHITECTS OR ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES FOR THE IN OWN BUILDING IN INCREASING THE SCOPE TO INCLUDE OTHER AREAS AS DEEMED NECESSARY FOR THE AMOUNT CURRENTLY IN THE PROPOSAL.

THAT IS OBVIOUSLY SUBJECT TO MAY NEED MORE.

AND THEN ALSO TO USE THE AIEA CONTRACT AS APPROVED BY KENT BROWN AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT COVER EVERYTHING.

I JUST WANT TO GET THAT ALL OUT ON BEFORE I STOP.

NO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE COMMISSIONERS AND FIRST JUDGES AT YOUR SELECTION AND THEN YOUR APPROVAL. OK.

I DIDN'T HEAR THAT THERE WAS A SELECTION.

YEAH, RIGHT. I PUT THAT IN THE MOTION.

SO LET'S SELECT TURNER RAMIREZ, RIGHT? I PUT IT ALL AS ONE. I'M GOING TO LET'S EMOTION THERE IS A SECOND ON THE FLOOR AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SPECIFY BY SAYING, OK, I JUST I JUST WANT TO HAVE ON THAT AAA CONTRACT COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE THAT SPECIFICALLY AN AAA CONTRACT.

THAT'S. HOW CAN I SAY THIS THERE SPECIFICALLY THAT WAS PREPARED BY BY ANOTHER FIRM? SO WE'VE JUST GOT TO BE THE ARCHITECTS.

WE JUST GOT, YEAH, WE JUST GOT TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THAT AIR CONTRACT.

IN OTHER WORDS, THAT A CONTRACT NEEDS TO COME FROM TURNER AND METAS FOR REVIEW TO KENT.

BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY PURCHASE AND THEY PREPARE FOR A CHANCE REVIEW.

THAT'S A VALID POINT, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED BECAUSE IT IS FAVORABLE TO ARCHITECTS, SO IT NEEDS TO BE. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT KEN BROWN DOES THE REVIEW THAT THE JUDGE IS TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER CONTRACT JUDGE? BECAUSE THE AIR VERY FAVORABLE TO ARCHITECTS.

I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO CONTRACT THAT PEOPLE LIKE ABM OR LAND USE.

NO, IT'S FIRST OF ALL, NOT ABM.

THE AIR CONTRACT IS A CONTRACT.

THINK OF IT AS A MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT.

AND YES, LAND HELPED BUILD THAT WITH OUR LITIGATION AND OUR OUR COUNTY ATTORNEYS TO PROTECT US.

IT'S A STRENGTH. IT IS A STRONG CONTRACT FOR THE COUNTY.

WELL, THE AIR CONTRACT, ACTUALLY IN ITS BASIC FORM, IS PROVIDED BY THE AMERICAN INSTITUTION OF ARCHITECTURE.

SO OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE VERY FAVORABLE TO THE ARCHITECT.

APPARENTLY, MR. BROWN HAS DONE SOME WORK TO MAKE TO IT, TO IT, TO MAKE IT FAVORABLE OR MORE FAVORABLE TO THE COUNTY.

SO THAT'S THE VERSION I'M INTERESTED IN.

ONE IS WHATEVER WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE COUNTY ATTORNEY PASS MUSTER ON, SO.

SO MAYBE IT DOESN'T NEED TO COME FROM HIM.

MAYBE IT NEEDS TO START WITH THE FORM THAT KENT HAS SUPPOSEDLY SIGNED OFF ON AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS NOT COMMISSIONED ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

WHEN YOU SAY THE FORM COMES FROM KENT, WE DON'T HAVE THAT CONTRACT.

IT'S NOT. AM I CORRECT IN SAYING THIS, JENNY? YES. OK. YEAH, IT'S THAT THAT IN WORKED TO BUILD ALL THIS LANGUAGE INSIDE THAT WAS MORE HELPFUL TO THE COUNTY AND CAN APPROVE THAT.

AND YOU PROVE IT. YES, BUT THAT'S NOT OUR THAT'S NOT OUR CONTENT.

THAT'S NOT OUR WORK PRODUCT, CORRECT? IS IT ALIENS? NOT OURS. IF YOU DID IT FOR US? YEAH, IT IT.

IT'S IF THEY DO IT FOR US, IT'S OUR WORK.

IT'S THEY'RE GOING TO ARGUE OVER THAT.

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IT'S BUILT TO PROTECT US.

THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.

IT'S A CONTRACT TO BUILD, TO PROTECT US.

AND JUST, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY, HERE'S OUR MASTER SERVICE AGREEMENT.

IF YOU WANT TO COME TO ENGINEERING WORK HERE, THIS IS WHAT WE REQUIRE.

IF YOU WANT TO DO ARCHITECTURAL WORK, THIS IS WHAT WE REQUIRE AND THEN IT COULD BE A NEGOTIATION IF THERE'S TERMS THAT DON'T SATISFY.

BUT THE POINT IS IS THAT THE CONTRACT IS BUILT LIKE A MASTER SERVICES TO PROTECT THE COUNTY. IT HAS CLAUSES IN THERE TO PROTECT THE COUNTY, WHICH IS NOT A STRONG CONTRACT, IS SLOWED UP OVER A CONTRACT IF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS SIGNED OFF ON THIS CONTRACT AND THIS PROTECTS US ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE, I'M FINE MOVING FORWARD, BUT I AGREE WITH THE JUDGE'S CONCEPT THAT WE NEED TO HAVE OUR OWN ARCHITECTURAL CONTRACT.

AND IF SOMEONE IS GOING TO CLAIM WORK PRODUCT FOR IT, FOR PUTTING IT OUT, THEN QUIT GETTING THEM TO DO IT.

I MEAN, BOTTOM LINE, IF LANDS TELLING US OR SOMEBODY I'VE AND I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT.

NO, NO, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, USUALLY WHEN SOMEONE DOES SOMETHING FOR YOU THAT IT'S IT'S THAT IT'S YOURS. JUST LIKE IF AN ATTORNEY PREPARES SOMETHING FOR YOU, YOU BUY IT FROM THAT. SO WE'RE PAYING FOR THIS.

SO IT'S GOT TO BE IT'S GOT TO BE OURS.

THE THE THE AIEA CONTRACT IS A PROGRAM AND ONE CAN YEAH.

AND THAT'S ONE.

THAT'S IT'S A IT'S A THAT'S A IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU'RE BUYING THE FROM FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL INSTITUTE. YOU'RE BUYING THIS THIS CONTRACT.

WE CAN PURCHASE IT FROM THE COUNTY AND THEN WE CAN MODIFY IT TO REFLECT WHATEVER CHANGES WE WANT TO HAVE, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO PURCHASE THAT UNDER THE COUNTY.

AM I CORRECT IN SAYING THERE'S JENNY UNDERARM, BRENDA? BECAUSE THAT WAY, IT'S THAT WAY.

WE USE IT, WE MODIFY IT, AND WE GIVE THAT TO THE ARCHITECTS THAT WE'RE HIRING.

OK, WE'RE WAY IN THE WEEDS.

YEAH, THAT'S BUT IT'S IT'S THIS ONE HAS BEEN THIS ONE HAS BEEN THIS.

THIS ONE HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

THEN I AMEND MY MOTION TO SAY THIS THIS CONTRACT, THIS CONTRACT IS IS A TERRIBLE DESCRIPTION. WAIT, WHERE'D IT GO? I JUST GOT IT. JUDGES, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS SAID IT LEGALLY SUFFICES.

I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A LEGAL DEBATE ALL DAY, BUT I AGREE WITH YOUR COUNSEL.

IT'S IT'S JUST NOT AS SMART.

IT'S NOT A SMART MOVE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH PUBLIC WORKS A THOUSAND TIMES, AND IT'S ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT OUR CONTRACTS ARE MUCH MORE STURDY TO RESIST. AND JUST, YOU KNOW, IT PROTECTS BOTH SIDES, BUT IT ADDRESSES THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD WANT AN ARCHITECT TO ADDRESS.

I MEAN, IT'S GOOD FOR BOTH PARTIES, AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE AN ASSIGNMENT OF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING.

WELL, AND MY MY OPINION IS THAT THEY DID ALREADY AND THAT THIS WAS THE ONE THAT WE WOULD USE AS A STANDARD.

BUT IT JUST IT DOESN'T.

IT FALLS ON DEAF EARS.

HMM. YOU KNOW WHAT HE'S SAYING IS YOU HAVE TO BUILD IT EACH TIME YOU DO IT.

THAT'S WHAT YOU SAY. OF COURSE, YOU SHOULD HAVE STARTED THERE.

OK, SO WHERE IS IT? LET ME LET ME TAKE A QUICK LOOK.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO MODIFY IT? LET'S APPROVE IT SUBJECT.

YOU, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, MAKING ANY OF THE MODIFICATIONS THAT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT SAYS ENGINEERING 100 TIMES IN THERE AND THEY'RE NOT DOING ENGINEERING.

AND THE REASON YOU DID THAT IS BECAUSE THAT'S A FORM CONTRACT THAT YOU USE.

I THINK THE COUNTY USES THAT JUDGE, NOT ME.

WELL, YOU PRESENTED IT, THOUGH YOU'RE RIGHT IT WHAT I'M SAYING IS BY YOUR OWN ACCORD.

I AGREE IT'S ACCOUNTING ENGINEERING CONTRACT.

AND WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS LET'S BUILD IT FOR ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES AND JUST I'LL WE'LL CAN GO FORWARD.

BUT I WANT IT TO BE SUBJECT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WORKING THESE CONTRACTS SO THAT THEY MAKES SENSE.

THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S A CONTRACT. OK.

ALL THOSE. DO WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, I REMEMBER IT'S A SELECTION NO.

ONE, THAT'S THE FIRST PIECE AND THE EXPANSION.

THE EXPANSION IS THE SECOND PIECE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE DO WE ALREADY DO THE RIGHT, I'M SAYING JUST GIVE IT.

WE'LL GET IT BACK TO THE NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE VOTING ON THE SELECTION OF TURNER RAMIREZ FOR THE PROJECT.

IT CALLED IT ON BUILDING AND THE EXPANSION OF RIGHT EXPANSION AND EXPANSION OF THE SERVICES AND THE EXPANSION OF THE SERVICES.

YOU CAN DO IT AGAIN. YOU AMENDED, I SAID, AND I SAID IN THIS CONTRACT, IT'S IN HAND, RIGHT? CORRECT.

THE COUNTY ATTORNEY APPROVING IT, AT LEAST LOOKING AT IT.

I MEAN, NO, THEY'VE ALREADY APPROVED IT.

COUNTY ATTORNEYS ALREADY PROVED THIS.

THAT'S WHY. THAT'S WHY I SAID, WE'RE JUST GOING TO USE THIS CONTRACT FOR NOW AND THEN WE NEED TO GO BACK AND WORK ON THE MASTER DEAL.

ANOTHER TIME SUBJECT TO PROBABLY, THOUGH, SHE'S ALREADY APPROVED IT.

OKAY. OKAY.

TYPEKIT BROWN APPROVED IT, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT THAT SAYS ENGINEERING, RIGHT? BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN IT DOESN'T.

IT'S NOT ENGINEERING.

OK, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE OUT THE WORD ENGINEERING, BUT I MEAN, IT'S IF THEY HAVE IF THEY HAVE AN ENGINE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE ENGINEERING SERVICES AND WE NEED TO USE.

WE MAY NEED TO USE THEM. ALL RIGHT.

OK. I MEAN, I'M I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THE IN THE LACK OF TOTAL, YOU KNOW, BEING THOROUGH BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IT'S NOT THOROUGH AND IT'S NOT IT'S NOT.

I THINK IT'S VERY THOROUGH, EXCEPT FOR THE WORD ENGINEERING, WHICH IS VALID.

AND KENT BROWN IS OK.

THIS ONE JUDGE, JUST SO YOU KNOW, HE'S HE'S THE ONE WHO REVIEWED THIS CONTRACT, THE SAME

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PERSON THAT YOU WERE SAYING EARLIER HAD DONE THE OTHER ONE.

SO I THINK IT IS THROAT, BUT YOU MAKE A VALID POINT ABOUT ENGINEERING.

SO IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE WORD ENGINEERING, I'M GOING TO GO VISIT WITH KENT ABOUT ABOUT ALL OF THIS SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO HAVE SOME DIRECTION.

YOU KNOW, WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO? I'M JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU.

WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO HAVE ONE ARCHITECT OVER HERE WITH ONE TYPE OF CONTRACT AND ANOTHER ARCHITECT OVER HERE WITH ANOTHER? OK, THAT'S LIKE ONE RULE 101 IN BUSINESS.

DON'T DO THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE SETTING YOURSELF UP FOR INCONSISTENCIES ON THE LEGALITY OF IT, AND THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT.

OK, LET'S GO FORWARD.

LUCKILY FOR ALL OF US, AS I SAY, WE ALL HAVE FAITH AND CONFIDENCE IN PEOPLE, BUT YOU DON'T BUILD CONTRACTS THIS WAY.

IT'S NOT SMART. I DON'T KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT BECAUSE I JUST I MEAN, IT'S JUST NOT LEGALLY SMART TO HAVE DIFFERENT CONTRACTS FOR DIFFERENT ARCHITECTS IN THE COUNTY.

WITH WITH WITH GREAT RELUCTANCE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET'S DO THE SELECTION.

THE FIRST PART OF THE MOTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, I I, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE SELECTION.

AND THEN WHAT'S THE SECOND ONE, KYRA? ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY, I MADE IT AS ONE MOTION A YEAR AGO.

YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT APART IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT AHEAD AND DO YOUR EXPANSION.

I'D MADE IT ALL ONE MOTION.

SO CAN YOU WHAT CAN YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT THAT WAY? ALL RIGHT. WHAT ELSE, BELINDA? DO WE NEED THERE ANYTHING ELSE? SO JUST TO CONFER WITH THE CAR, THEN YOU'VE GOT THIS ELECTION, YOU'VE GOT AND THEN THE APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT AND NOW THE APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT, KERRY, YOU NEED YOUR MIKE TO. I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

SORRY. OK, SO WE'RE GOOD, CAROL.

OK, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE WELCOME.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S DO ITEM NUMBER TWO, I GUESS.

STAY UP THERE ONE.

[2. Discuss and consider a purchase with Iron 3 Diesel, LLC for one (1) used 1990 International 4900 Heavy Mobile Repair Truck and one (1) used 1995 M1081 LMTV 2.5 Ton Truck for Public Works.]

THIS IS FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

IT'S AN IRON THREE, DIESEL SO USED VEHICLE, MOBILE REPAIR TRUCK, AND THEN ALSO IT'S A TWO POINT FIVE TON TRUCK AS WELL.

NINETEEN NINETY FIVE, BOTH ARE USED AND THESE ARE PURCHASES.

WOULD YOU TALK ABOUT THEIR USE, THE FUNDING SOURCE? SO, YES, MA'AM, THE THE TRUCK ONE OF THE TRUCKS IS GOING TO BE USED FOR A MECHANIC.

HAS IT HAS AN AIR COMPRESSOR WELDER.

IT HAS EVERYTHING ON THE ON THIS TRUCK.

IT'S A REAL, DURABLE TRUCK AND FOR THE COSTS OF THE WE'RE PAYING FOR, IT HAS A LOT OF PLUSES, IS GOING TO HAVE A CRANE.

SO THAT'S THAT TRUCK IS GOING TO BE USED FOR OUR MECHANICS.

ON THE OTHER ONE, IT'S THE MONETARY TRUCK THAT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSE AND RESPONSE FOR ANY TIME WHEN THERE'S FLOODING OR THERE'S PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE.

TAKE IT OUT DURING EMERGENCY PURPOSES.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE OUT OF THE TRUCK.

THAT'S THE FIRST ONE. YES, MA'AM.

AND WHAT ABOUT THE SECOND, THE SECOND ONE'S ARM MECHANIC? IT'S IT HAS A LIKE I SAID, IT HAS A WELDER.

IT HAS AN AIR COMPRESSOR.

IT HAS A CRANE.

SO PRETTY MUCH YOU HAVE YOUR SHOP.

OR TO HAVE A MECHANIC ON THE ROAD FULL TIME.

AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY YOU DIDN'T HAVE THESE BEFORE.

NO, MA'AM. WE HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR, BUT IT'S A SMALLER VERSION.

THIS ONE'S A BIGGER VERSION WHERE IT CAN HANDLE MORE CAPACITY.

AND PLUS, THIS ONE HAS A WELDER ON IT.

OK, AND CYNTHIA STANDING.

SO I BET SHE'S GOING TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCUREMENT OF THESE.

YES, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE PURCHASE APPROVAL FOR THE TWO EQUIPMENT TRUCKS BE APPROVED. THEY DO FALL UNDER IF YOU'LL NOTICE ONE OF THEM'S FIFTEEN THOUSAND SEVEN SIXTY NINE FIFTY AND THE ONLY THIRTY TWO THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED WHICH FALLS BELOW THE REQUIRED BIDDING REQUIREMENTS.

SO IT WOULD MEET THEM.

AND WHERE ARE WE PURCHASING THEM FROM? WE'RE PURCHASING THEM FROM IRON THREE DIESEL LLC.

GOT IT! AND.

IS THERE ARE THERE ANY? THE FUNDING SOURCE.

I DON'T KNOW OF ANYONE SAID IT YET.

THE FUNDING SOURCE $13000 IS COMING FROM COMMISSIONER PRECINCT ONE AND THE THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND TWO SIXTY NINE FIFTY IS FROM CEOS PUBLIC WORKS.

OKAY, SO CEO, YOU'LL TAKE THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND OF IT FROM FROM YOUR CEO.

FROM WHAT YEAR TO TWENTY SIXTEEN? OK. AND COMMISSIONER, YOURS IS PRECINCT ONE.

WHAT? OLD CEOS THERESA? OK. ALL RIGHT, IS THERE A MOTION MOVED, SO MOVE MOTION IN A SECOND.

SO REALLY, IT'S NOT PRECINCT ONE, IT'S JUST GENERAL CAPITAL.

OH, IT'S PRECINCT HERNANDEZ'S CAPITAL.

YES. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, I I HOPE SAME SIGN.

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OK, WE'RE GOING TO GO NOW TO THE AUDITOR.

I AM MINDFUL OF THE TIME AND WE'RE ALMOST READY TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[1. Approve Budget Change Order No. 06 for Fiscal Year 2021-2022.]

SO I THINK WE COULD TAKE OUR QUICK LITTLE BREAK HERE.

IF WE ARE ABLE TO GET THROUGH.

AT LEAST SOME OF THE AUDITORS WILL BE VERY QUICK SESSION.

NO ONE. NO, I WAS IT'S NO, I'M JUST SAYING WE'RE ALMOST THERE.

AUDITOR WILL GO THROUGH HIS AGENDA ITEMS. THE FIRST WAS A BUDGET CHANGE ORDER NUMBER SIX FOR THE YEAR TO CHANGE.

ORDER NUMBER SIX FOR THE ROAD AND BRIDGE IS A SMALL ITEM TO TO PAY FOR A SMALL INCREASE FOR AT LEAST AGREEMENT.

FIVE HUNDRED THIRTY THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED THIRTY DOLLARS.

SO THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE FOR THIS CHANGE ORDER AND I SUBMIT A BUDGET CHANGE ORDER SIX FOR YOUR APPROVAL. OK.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT? I'M NOT A MOTION. HOW ABOUT A SECOND MOTION? A SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I HI.

YOU HAVE A CAPITAL BUDGET CHANGE ORDER.

IT'S NUMBER ONE. OH, FIVE.

[2. Approve Capital Project Budget Change Order No. 105.]

THEY'RE VERY SMALL IN THE CHANGES WE HAVE FOR 19 ONE COMMISSIONER PRECINCT TWO AND SMALL CHANGES TO MAKE FOR EQUIPMENT OF FIFTEEN HUNDRED SEVENTY SIX DOLLARS AND 96 CENTS FOR 2015 CEOS IS BASICALLY COUNTY ROAD.

TWENTY SIX IMPROVEMENT WITH A SMALL INCREASE, AS WELL AS SOME SMALL INCREASES FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AND FOR TWENTY SIXTEEN CEOS MODIFICATION OF MOVING SOME MONEY DOWN TO COVER THE HE'LL TALK TO ME FACILITY, THE THE REQUESTS THAT WERE BEING SUBMITTED TO OUR OFFICE AND THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE FOR THESE REQUESTS.

I SUBMIT PROJECT CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE HUNDRED FIVE FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

SO MOVE ABOUT A SECOND.

OK, A SECOND FOR MODEST ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, I BUY.

OK, THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO TO AN ITEM NUMBER THREE TO TALK ABOUT THE DETERMINATION OF A

[3. Discuss and consider determination of possible funding source to replace County’s ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning) system and replacement of time clocks.]

POSSIBLE FUNDING SOURCE TO REPLACE THE COUNTY'S ERP SYSTEM AND REPLACEMENT OF TIME CLOCKS. SO WE BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION THAT OUR SERVERS FOR OUR CURRENT FINANCIAL SYSTEM WILL BE, BUT I BELIEVE ONE OF THE POSSIBILITIES WOULD BE GOING OUT FOR NEW CEOS.

AND NO, HINOJOSA WAS GOING TO JOIN US FOR THIS CONVERSATION THAT HE WON'T BE AVAILABLE UNTIL 1:00 15.

OK, WE'LL JUST WE'LL HOLD ON THE ONE 15, BUT JUST SET.

JUST REMIND EVERYBODY, WHAT IS ERP? JUST TALK ABOUT THAT.

WE'LL HOLD. IT'S OUR OUR OUR OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM.

IT'S CALLED ENTERPRISE RESOURCES PROGRAM.

IT'S WHAT WE ACCOUNTANTS USE FOR OUR COMPUTER SYSTEM.

IT'S DIFFERENT FROM A NORMAL ACCOUNTING SYSTEMS. IT'S WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR ACCOUNTS PAYABLE, ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE, YOUR GENERAL LEDGER ACCOUNTS FILES. IT'S HOW IT RUNS THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HOW WE MANAGE THE FINANCES FOR THE SYSTEM. OUR SYSTEM CURRENTLY IS IN THE PROCESS OF COMING TO A END OF LIFE FOR OUR OUR SERVERS THAT ARE CURRENT AND SOFTWARE IS SITTING ON.

THAT PROCESS IS GOING TO BE NEED TO BE CHANGED BECAUSE OF HOW INNOVATIVE IS COMING UP VERY SOON FOR THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.

IN TWENTY TWENTY TWENTY TWENTY THREE AT THE END OF TWENTY TWENTY THREE IS WHEN THE END OF LIFE IS FOR THOSE SERVERS ARE GOING TO BE.

WE ALSO BEEN TOLD BY OUR PROGRAMING SOFTWARE COMPANY THAT AT THE END OF THIS MONTH WE HAVE TO SUSPEND. WE LOST, WE LOST A QUORUM.

WE DID. WE'LL STOP.

OK. UM, LET'S JUST.

PAUSE AND FOR A MOMENT.

HE DOESN'T KNOW THAT, BUT LET ME CALL HIM.

NO, BUT. IF YOU WANT TO GO GET HIM AND REMIND HIM.

FOR THOSE OF YOU ONLINE, WE HAD TO STOP BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE THREE COMMISSIONERS IN THE ROOM AT ALL TIMES UNDER THE G.R.

ORDER. WE CAN GO VIRTUAL, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THREE PRESENT.

AND WE WERE DOING SO WELL ON TIME.

YEAH. I'LL TAKE I'LL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

WE'RE ON A PAUSE.

YES, TAKE DOWN ALL OUR MIKES, CONNIE FOR RIGHT NOW, PLEASE.

JUST THE MIKES ON THE DAIS.

OH, SUPER HEAVY.

[03:50:31]

OK. LET'S COME BACK UP ON THE MIKES.

OK, APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE BACK.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM ESTABLISHED AGAIN, AND DALE, I'M GOING TO HAVE YOU GO ON A REWIND, IF YOU DON'T MIND. WE KIND OF LOST OUR TRAIN OF THOUGHT ON OUR BACK.

SO A YEAR OR SO AGO, WE BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT OUR CURRENT FINANCIAL SYSTEM, WHICH IS CALLED AN ERP, WHICH IS ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING SYSTEM, WHICH IS OUR SOFTWARE THAT WE USE TO MANAGE OUR ACCOUNTING, FINANCE AND SOFTWARE ON, IS BECOMING A SERVER.

THEY'RE COMING TO AN END OF LIFE IN 2023.

AND THAT MEANS THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO REPLACE THE ENTIRE SERVING SYSTEM.

AND THAT MEANS THAT IF WE STAY WITH OUR CURRENT SYSTEM, THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SHIFT TO THEIR NEW SOFTWARE.

AND EVERY COUNTY WE'VE HEARD, WE'VE TALKED TO IN EVERY CITY WE TALKED TO SAID THAT IS A WRONG THING TO DO BECAUSE THE SYSTEM IS IF YOU'RE NOW HAVING TO DO FIVE OR SIX STEPS, IT WOULD TAKE 15 STEPS.

WHERE ARE YOU DOING BEFORE THEY'RE GOING BACKWARDS INSTEAD OF FORWARDS? AND AND ONE OF THE LARGEST CITIES THEY HAVE, WHICH IS SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH, IS ALSO REMOVING FROM THEIR SYSTEM.

SO WE FEEL THAT IT'S IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO MOVE.

AND THAT'S ALSO ONE OF THE REASONS IN THE LIFE OF OUR SERVERS, WHICH MEAN THEY'LL HAVE TO REPLACE THESE SERVERS.

IT'S A BIG SOFTWARE CHANGE, AND THE REQUIREMENT IS ANOTHER ISSUE CAME UP THAT WE JUST WERE AWARE OF. THAT TYLER TECHNOLOGY, WHICH MANAGES OUR TIMEKEEPING SYSTEM, HAS TOLD US THAT OUR TIME CLOCKS WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE COURTHOUSE AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, WHICH WE HAVE AROUND 50 OF THEM ALSO BECOMING A END OF LIFE IN THE END OF THIS YEAR, WHICH MEANS IF IT BREAKS OUT, WE NEED TO REPAIR THAT.

IT CANNOT REPLACE OR REPAIR THEM AND WE NEED TO REPLACE ALL 50.

SO THIS TIME WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH AN ISSUE OF WE NEED TO TRY TO PROVIDE FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO REPLACE THE ENTIRE SYSTEM, TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE EVERYTHING AND WE PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER. WE WON'T HAVE TO SPEND THE ADDITIONAL ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS ON THE TIME CLOCK.

WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE ENTIRE COURTHOUSE.

AND JUST SO YOU MAY BE AWARE OF THAT, IF WE DO DO JUST THE TIME CLOCK IS ONLY AND WE DO CHANGE OUR SOFTWARE SYSTEM, WE MAY HAVE TO CHANGE THEM AGAIN.

WE DON'T WANT DO THIS TWICE, RIGHT? AND WE BROUGHT THIS TO YOU BEFORE, AND WE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THIS.

WE'RE TALKING WITH A SOFTWARE COMPANIES WE'VE DEALT WITH.

IT'S ANYWHERE FROM FOUR TO SIX MILLION DOLLARS.

IT'S CLOSE TO SIX MILLION DOLLARS WHEN WE DO THE ENTIRE MIGRATION OF DATA AND SOFTWARE.

AND DARRELL CAN PROBABLY AGREE THAT THAT'S PROBABLY A RIGHT NUMBER.

WHEN WE MOVE FROM OUR MAINFRAME TO OUR CURRENT SYSTEM FOR ODYSSEY, THAT WAS SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS. RIGHT? SO SO WE BELIEVE THE FUNDING AVAILABLE IS FIVE POINT FOUR, FIVE POINT NINE OR RIGHT AT SIX MILLION. AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE ABLE TO FIND A FUNDING SOURCE SO THAT WE CAN WORK WITH MICHAEL SO WE CAN GO OUT FOR A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.

AND LET'S SEE WHAT THE COMPANY BRING IN AND LET'S SEE WHAT THEY OFFER.

AND THEN WE CAN DETERMINE WHAT'S OUR BEST, BEST AVENUE TO FOLLOW TO TO TO REPLACE THE SYSTEM WE WE KNOW WE NEED TO REPLACE.

UNDERSTOOD. OK, SO WITH THAT, EBAY IS ON THE LINE AND SHE'S HAS SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT FUNDING, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT KNOWIT IS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE AT AROUND ONE THIRTY ONE 15. SO IF IS THERE ANY QUESTION THAT YOU CAN ASK THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH FUNDING, BUT JUST ABOUT THE SOFTWARE, THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO JUST TALK ABOUT THAT.

AND ALSO AFTER I DETOX, I'D JUST LIKE DARYL TO OK, WELL, HOW ABOUT LET ME INVITE DARRELL RIGHT NOW JUST TO MAKE SURE I WANT HIM TO TELL US THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY AND WE HAVE TO DO THIS, AND THERE'S NO QUESTION AND THERE'S NO IFS, ANDS OR BUTS.

AND I MEAN, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE AN IT DIRECTOR.

ALL RIGHT, DALE. DARRELL ISSA, SAY YOU'RE ON.

YEAH, OK.

YES. AND I CAN COMMENT ON THIS AS BOTH A I.T.

PERSON AS WELL AS A USER OF THE SYSTEM, AS A USER OF THE FINANCE SYSTEM.

IF WE COULD REPLACE THE CURRENT SYSTEM TOMORROW, I'D BE ALL FOR IT BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET AROUND IN.

OUR REPORTING IS IS KIND OF A BARE AND YOU HAVE TO GO, YOU HAVE TO KIND OF MEANDER YOUR WAY THROUGH SEVERAL COMPONENTS TO ACHIEVE A LOT OF YOUR FINANCIAL ANALYSIS AND ASSESSMENTS THAT I CERTAINLY LIKE DOING BECAUSE OUR BUDGETS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE AND IT GETS TO BE QUITE A HEADACHE TO DO IT.

AND COMING IN AS I DID, IT WAS IT'S BEEN A BIT OF A BEAR TO TRY AND GO BACK AND PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND UNDERSTAND IT.

[03:55:01]

SO IT TOOK QUITE A WHILE.

NOW, AS FAR AS THIS SYSTEM AND CHANGING THIS, WE HAVE LOOKED AT SOME.

OF COURSE, I'M GOING TO MENTION ANY PARTICULARS BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE UNFAIR AT THIS TIME. I'M SURE THIS WOULD BE A GO OUT FOR BID THING.

MAYBE, MAYBE NOT. NOT NOT MY CALL THERE, BUT YES, THIS SYSTEM IS GOING AWAY.

IT IS DYING ON US THERE.

AND IT'S KIND OF A HODGEPODGE RIGHT NOW OF LITERALLY DIFFERENT, NOT JUST DIFFERENT COMPONENTS THAT THAT AREN'T ALL INTEGRATED TOGETHER, BUT IT'S ALSO KIND.

DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT YOU DEAL WITH TO ACHIEVE EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY GO TO DO ONE THING AND YOU LITERALLY LEAVE WHERE YOU'RE AT RIGHT THERE AND GO TO A WHOLE KIND OF A DIFFERENT APPLICATION TO ACHIEVE EVERYTHING.

SO IN THE MODERN WORLD, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

I DON'T THINK THE THE PLAYERS IN THIS ONE, AS DAVE WAS MENTIONING ABOUT HAVING, YOU KNOW, TOO MUCH NAVIGATING AROUND STILL TO ACHIEVE ANYTHING, IS THAT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN KIND OF A HODGEPODGE PUTTING DIFFERENT COMPONENTS TOGETHER THAT IF THEY WEREN'T IN THE DEVELOPMENT STAGE A LONG TIME AGO, THERE'S NO WAY THEY COULD HAVE GOTTEN TO THE ENORMITY THAT THESE SYSTEMS COMPRISE, YOU KNOW, AT THE ERP LEVEL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING TO ENTERPRISE AND THEY JUST COULDN'T PUT IT TOGETHER LIKE THAT WHERE THERE ARE SYSTEMS WE'VE HEARD OF, LIKE THE CITY HAD PROBLEMS WITH A PARTICULAR SYSTEM WON'T COMMENT TOO MUCH ON THAT.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS THAT PEOPLE THAT HAVE DEVELOPED THESE KIND OF SYSTEMS KIND OF RIGHT AFTER THE EARLY SYSTEMS BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE THAT WERE IN IT EARLY THAT ARE STILL OUT THERE, THEY'RE THEY DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A START FROM SCRATCH POINT ANYWHERE THEY'VE BUILT UP FROM A LONG TIME AGO.

SO MANY OF THEM CAN KIND OF BE CONVOLUTED TO WORK WITH LIKE THAT, WHEREAS THERE ARE SOME OUT THERE NOW THAT STARTED IN A MORE MODERN AGE OF TECHNOLOGY.

AND BUT THEY STILL THAT WAS AVAILABLE QUITE A WHILE BACK.

AND THERE ARE SOME AVAILABLE OUT THERE THAT DO THAT THAT WILL FALL INTO A FIVE TO SEVEN MILLION RANGE.

AND THIS WOULD BE WHEN YOU MENTIONED TYLER.

WHAT I THINK OF IS THE THE FACT THAT IT'S CLOUD BASED.

SO YOU'VE GOT CYBERSECURITY IS PROTECTED FROM BOTH ENDS LIKE THAT.

AND I WOULD THE TIMEKEEPING.

WE CAN GET A SYSTEM THAT HAS THE TIMEKEEPING COMPONENT WITHIN IT AS WELL AND EVERYTHING ELSE WE DO, BECAUSE WHAT'S KEY HERE IS THAT YOU HAVE MODERN APPLICATIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND ALL THE COMPONENTS THAT YOU DEAL WITH IN THE FINANCE AREA OR WITHIN THAT ONE APPLICATION.

SO I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT WE START RESEARCHING AND LOOKING AT WHAT'S AVAILABLE OUT THERE, WHAT WILL FIT NUECES COUNTY AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT? AND ARE THERE ENOUGH OPTIONS OUT THERE TO DO LIKE AN RFQ SO THAT WE CAN GET THE BEST POTENTIAL? UM, DEAL.

YES, THERE IS IN KIND OF ANSWER THAT AS THE WAY I SEE IT IS THAT YOU CAN DO YOUR RFQ OUT THERE AND WHAT YOU GET BACK MAY PROVE THAT IT'S NOT JUST A STRAIGHTFORWARD YES ANSWER.

YOU GET PLAYERS THAT RESPOND, BUT YOU WANT TO YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO DO A LOT OF RESEARCH INTO THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AS SOUND AS THEY MAKE IT SEEM.

AND IT MAY BE, YOU KNOW, FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT EVEN WITH A WITH YOU, WE MAY WANT TO. I MEAN, THIS IS A BIG DEAL AND I TRUST YOU COMPLETELY.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED SOME ADDITIONAL I.T.

EXPERTIZE OR, YOU KNOW, EXPERTIZE ON NOT ON THESE COMPANIES, RIGHT? BECAUSE I DON'T I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO KNOW EVERY INTRICACY ABOUT EVERY SINGLE COMPANY OUT THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE WOULD FIND THAT OUT.

AND BUT BUT THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

SO SO THE POINT IS, I GUESS, JUDGE, WE WOULD BE HEADING TOWARDS A IF WE IF WE FIND THE FUNDING SOURCE AND I'LL LET IT TALK, BUT WE'D BE HEADING TOWARDS SOME SORT OF RFQ OR RFP.

BUT BOY, IT BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW WE WORD THE RFP AND THE RFP OR WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO DO. AND SO WHAT WOULD BE IN RFP? YEAH, WHAT WE GET BACK.

SO. YEAH, IT'S A IT'S A IT'S SOFTWARE, SO IT'D BE A THING.

AND I ALWAYS LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE CUZ THERE FOR PEOPLE AND THEY'RE VERY SPECIAL BRACKET OF PEOPLE AND THE PS ARE FOR THE THINGS.

BUT AT ANY RATE, WE CAN HEAR MORE ABOUT THE FUNDING AFTER TIME PERIOD.

BUT YOU SAID YOU ALSO WANTED TO HEAR FROM SOMEBODY ELSE BESIDES DARRELL.

WAS THERE A THIRD PERSON? NO. ARE THEY? A DAY YOU ARE THERE, YOU CAN.

YES, MA'AM, IF YOU DON'T, YOU'RE ALREADY YOU'RE ON.

YES, I'M RECOMMENDING.

NO, HE'S GOING TO BE JOINING THIS MEETING.

HE'S REQUESTED TO BE ONE 15.

I'M NOT RECOMMENDING TO USE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDS.

[04:00:04]

SO THE BEST WAY TO DO IT IS TO DO IT THROUGH GOING OUT FOR MORE DEBT.

I I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN USE SOME OF THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE IN ALL THIS MONEY, BUT IT WON'T BE ABLE TO COVER THE TOTAL EXPENSE.

BUT ONE I WANT 15.

WE KNOW WE WANT TO RECOMMEND A GOOD PROPOSAL FOR THE COURT.

AND SAID ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OK, GREAT, DO WE HAVE AND WE DON'T, WE CAN ALWAYS PROVIDE IT LATER, BUT DO WE HAVE A TOTAL FROM WHAT I'M CALLING OR YOU'RE CALLING IDENTIFYING OLD CEOS? DO WE HAVE A TOTAL? I KNOW IT'S NOT ENOUGH, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE HAVE AN AMOUNT.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAD TWO MILLION.

I'M CONFIRMING RIGHT NOW THAT IT'S BUSINESS.

IT'S FRIDAY. WE HAD TWO MILLION FOR THE TWENTY TWENTY ONE.

I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT WITH THE RESET THAT WE CAN USE THE TWENTY TWENTY ONE CEOS FOR SOFTWARE. IT'S SHE THERE, SHE CONFESSED SHE'S GOING TO JUMP TO A MICROPHONE.

THERE RIGHT NOW, THE RECOMMENDATION ON THE ON THE AGENDA ITEM WAS TWO POINT NINE FROM THE TWENTY TWENTY ONE CEOS, HALF OF THE FIVE POINT NINE THAT IS BEING REQUESTED RIGHT BEING REQUESTED OR JUST BEING, WELL, WE'RE NOT.

WELL, THE COST ESTIMATE, THE COST FROM DOWN AND OUT OF CURIOSITY DID THE TWO POINT NINE THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE COST TWENTY TWENTY ONE.

DOES THAT CONFORM TO WHAT I'M CALLING THE COURT'S PREVIOUS PRIORITIZATION OF THE FIFTY MILLION? IT DOES NOT JUST THE UNALLOCATED PORTION.

OK. YEAH, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO.

I REMEMBER I WAS GOING TO SAY WE DIDN'T DO IT THAT WAY.

AND THE REASON I'M I'M HESITANT IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A PRIORITIZATION.

I THINK, RIGHT, I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND AND I BUT AGAIN, WE'RE NOT HERE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

WE'RE HERE TO JUST DISCUSS IT RIGHT? AND SO IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT WE WE'RE AWARE OF THE UNALLOCATED.

BUT AND ACTUALLY THE TWO POINT NINE WAS JUST IT WAS HALF OF WHAT THE TOTAL COST FIVE POINT NINE BECAUSE THE OTHER TWO POINT NINE WAS FROM THE ARPA FUNDS BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS BEEN KIND OF IN THE PLANNING, IT'S WHERE THE MONEY'S THE WHOLE AMOUNT WAS IN THE ARPA FUNDS.

BUT IF WE SPLIT IT UP, WE CAN DO TWO POINT NINE, OPERATING TWO POINT NINE FOR THE TWENTY TWENTY ONE CEOS OR GO OUT FOR A NEW CERTIFICATE.

IF WE THINK IT QUALIFIES UNDER RPA, I MEAN, DO WE DEFINITIVELY KNOW THAT IT QUALIFIES UNDER RPA AT THIS POINT? YES, WE DO KNOW.

WE DO KNOW THAT IT DOES.

IT DOES. AND WHERE DO WE GET THAT FROM? BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER. WELL, THAT COMES FROM YOUR LOST REVENUE AS GOVERNMENT SERVICES LIMITED AMOUNT. WELL, WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION NEXT.

SO WHY DO WE WANT IT TO SPLIT? THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO SPLIT IT AND NOT DO.

WHAT IF WE BROUGHT IT BACK FOR ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM, NOT NEXT WEEK, BUT TO TO TO LOOK AT PUT THAT IN THAT RPA WORKSHOP WHENEVER, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THAT COMING UP, I AGREE TO ALSO LOOK AT REPRIORITIZING, REPRIORITIZING THE ARE LOOKING AT MAYBE THE WHOLE LIST OF SIPS TO KIND OF SEE WHERE WE ARE OR WHAT'S BEEN ENCUMBERED, WHERE WE COULD MOVE.

WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT AT LEAST A COUPLE OF MILLION COMING BACK FROM THE INSURANCE SETTLEMENT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO REALLOCATE FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS THERE.

I THINK THE GOOD, AS THEY SAY, IS IF THERE IS A GOOD NEWS, BAD NEWS.

BAD NEWS IS, IS THAT WE'RE AT THE END OF LIFE WITH THIS SOFTWARE AND IT COSTS SIX MILLION DOLLARS, ROUGHLY.

THAT'S THE BAD NEWS.

WHAT'S THE GOOD NEWS? THERE'S AT LEAST TWO POTENTIAL WAYS OF FUNDING, AND IT JUST NEEDS THE COURT NEEDS TO HEAR.

WE'LL HEAR FROM ONE OF THEM IN ABOUT 30 MINUTES AND THEN WE'LL HEAR, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO TO MAYBE DO THAT HYBRID HALF FROM THIS ANGLE AND HALF FROM ANOTHER ANGLE. UM, BUT I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT WE GOT CONFIRMATION FROM DARRELL THAT, HEY, YOU'RE AT END OF LIFE, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS BURDEN IF THIS SOFTWARE WENT KAPUT ON US.

AND I WOULD SAY ALSO THE OLD CEOS, WE REALLY NEED TO SPEND THOSE DOLLARS.

THEY'VE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME THERE IN EACH COMMISSIONER'S POT.

BUT IF WE CAN PULL THEM TOGETHER AND JUST USE THEM TOWARDS THIS, THEN MAYBE THE NEWER MONEY, THEN WE CAN REALLOCATE BACK TO THE COURT.

YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

YOU'RE TOO. YES, SIR, YOU'VE BEEN USING YOURS.

YEAH, YOU. YOU DON'T HAVE VERY MUCH, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE, EVERYBODY ELSE, WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS, YOU KNOW? RIGHT? WELL, IT'S THIS.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, I MEAN, IT'S REQUIRED UNDER THE LAW.

AND YEAH, AND AGAIN, I MEAN, I DON'T I'M I'M ANXIOUS TO HEAR IT, ALTHOUGH I CAN DO THE MATH. I MEAN DEBT.

IS GOING TO I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN VERY CLEVER ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT OUR TAX RATE GOES DOWN WHILE KEEPING OUR INTEREST IN SINKING RATE PERFECTLY PERFECT.

THERE IS NO WAY WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO.

WE'D HAVE TO REFINANCE AT SOME POINT IN ORDER TO KEEP THAT INTEREST AND SINKING RATE WHERE IT IS AND BORROW EVEN $3 MILLION.

[04:05:03]

SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO QUIZ KNOWIT HERE AT 1:30.

BUT BUT THERE'S ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE WAYS TO TO ACHIEVE THE SAME GOAL.

YOU STAY AWAY FROM BORROWING, BE BETTER.

SO ANYWAY, SO WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU.

YES. YES, SIR. RELATIVE TO ARPA, I WOULD SAY I LOOKED IN A LITTLE BIT WHENEVER DALE AND I FIRST GOT INTO DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS SYSTEM.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MOVE H.R.

UNDER THIS AS WELL.

SO THE MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING FOR HR APPLICATIONS RIGHT NOW WOULD BE WASHED BY THIS.

BUT RELATIVE TO RPA IS THAT THERE ARE H.R.

COMPONENTS THAT DO APPLY ALREADY THAT I'M AWARE OF WITH RPA.

SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT A STARTING PART.

GOOD POINT FOR RESEARCHING RPA AND MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.

AND LASTLY, IS THE LONGEVITY OF THIS SYSTEM.

THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT ANYBODY IS GOING TO COME BACK IN IN ANY SHORT TERM WHATSOEVER.

I SEE MOST OF US RETIRING BEFORE WE ARE EVEN LOOKING AT THIS, AND THAT'S EVEN FOR ALL OF THE THE YOUNG ONES AND EVERYTHING THIS IS THIS IS MULTI MULTI-YEAR.

DARRELL, YOU MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE WE ALSO TALKED TO WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT IT AND DID SOME DEMOS FROM OTHER COMPANIES LIKE YOU SAID, WE DON'T WANT TO NOTIFY THOSE ANY RIGHT NOW, BUT WE WE SAID WE WANT A TOTAL PACKAGE, INCLUDING HR, INCLUDING OUR SIDE TIMEKEEPING, ANYTHING ELSE.

AND THAT'S PART OF THIS.

THIS FIVE POINT NINE MILLION INCLUDES EVERYTHING.

AND AS YOU SAID, WE WANT THIS TO BE A LONG LIFE EVENT.

THE CURRENT SYSTEM WE'RE ON, WE'VE BEEN ON IT FOR 31 YEARS.

THAT'S A LONG LIFE. YEAH, YEAH.

I THINK WE GOT OUR MONEY'S WORTH.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ODYSSEY. NO ONE SOLUTION.

OH, ONE SOLUTION.

YEAH. OK, SO WITH THAT, LET ME GO BACK TO OUR AGENDA.

I GOT BOGGED DOWN IN THESE PAPERS.

KARA AND I HADN'T LOST MY AGENDA HERE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF HOLD SINCE WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE PAYMENTS THAT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED

[4. Discuss and approve payments received from the City/County Public Health District invoiced from October 2021 through December 2021.]

FROM OCTOBER TWENTY ONE TO DECEMBER TWENTY ONE THAT HAVE BEEN INVOICED TO US.

I'M ASSUMING THESE ARE REIMBURSEMENT REQUESTS FROM THE CITY COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT FROM THE CITY. WE'VE HELD ON THESE TWO BECAUSE OF A DIFFERENT QUESTION.

WE WANT TO BRING THESE TO YOUR ATTENTION.

THIS INCLUDES THE RENT PAYMENTS FOR THE FACILITY AS WELL AS OPERATING EXPENSES.

THEY DO INCLUDE SOME, SOME SALARIES.

THERE'S ONLY ONE OVERTIME REQUEST, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S IN OCTOBER, AND THE ONLY OVERTIME IS FOR THE NURSE PRACTITIONER.

NO, THE ONE HAS OVERTIME AND THAT OVERTIME FOR THAT NURSE PRACTITIONER WAS FIVE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED DOLLARS. WE ARE SUBMITTING THE REQUEST FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

THESE ARE ALREADY BEEN PAID BY THE CITY AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR OUR REQUEST FOR REIMBURSEMENT. AND WE'RE SEEING THESE FOR YOUR YOUR REVIEW AND ACCEPTANCE TO BE PAID FOR.

THE NURSE PRACTITIONER FOR OCTOBER HER FOR A TOTAL OCTOBER OVER TIME WAS FIVE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED NINETY FOUR DOLLARS, WHILE EACH ONE OF THEM SAID WE'VE GOT NINETEEN THOUSAND FOR ONE AND WE GOT FOURTEEN THOUSAND.

THERE'S THERE'S THERE'S LIKE LIKE SEVEN INVOICES HERE FOR OCTOBER THROUGH SEPTEMBER FOR SALARIES, REIMBURSEMENT AS WELL AS RENT EXPENSES.

THERE ARE EXPENSES AND IT'S AN ENTIRE REIMBURSEMENT THAT WE OWE THE CITY MORE BILLS, NORMAL BILLS OTHER THAN WHAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IS JUST PAYING WHAT WE OWE THEM.

YES, THAT'S GOING TO SAY THIS IS PER OUR CONTRACT CONTRACT TO REIMBURSE.

AND NO, NO, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THEM WHAT THEY RECEIVE IN THE OVERTIME WITH A NURSE PRACTITIONER TO PAY WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, MOVE TO PAY THE INVOICE, TO PAY THE INVOICES. YEAH, MOTION.

AND IS THERE A SECOND SECOND AND FOR FEAR THAT WE'VE DONE SO WELL THIS MORNING AND I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR IT, BUT THIS DOES SHOW THE.

IRONY OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A CONTRACT HERE, WE ARE PAYING FIVE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED DOLLARS AND SAYING IT'S OK BECAUSE SHE WORKED THOSE HOURS AND WE HAVE A CONTRACT.

AND YET ON OUR SPREADSHEET THIS MORNING, THIS COURT VOTED NOT TO PAY $80 TO SOMEBODY AND ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY DOLLARS TO SOMEBODY SHE'S ALREADY BEEN PAID.

BUT THE CONCEPT IS WHAT IT'S THE IT'S IT'S THE CONCEPT I'M I'M TRYING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION. OK, I'LL CHANGE IT TO.

NO. SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE'RE REWARDING SOME PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE SAME PLACE DOING THE SAME TYPE OF CRITICAL PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY AND PUNISHING OTHERS.

THERE'S JUST A THERE'S AN IMBALANCE THERE AND IT JUST IT, IT SHOULD BE POINTED OUT.

I WISH WE HAD A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT TO PAY EVERYBODY.

THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. I THINK IT'S FAIR.

THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. THERE'S A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION THAT WE HAVE TO MEET WITH THIS AND. RIGHT.

I HEAR YOU. THERE'S THAT'S THAT'S MY POINT IS TO ME, THERE'S ALSO A MORAL ONE.

BUT OK, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, I I.

[04:10:02]

OK, WE ARE THE LAST ITEM FROM THE AUDITOR.

THIS IS A DISCUSSION AND CONSIDER SELECTING.

[5. Discuss and consider selecting U.S. Department of Treasury Final Rule standard allowance of up to $10 million for revenue loss under the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA).]

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT, BY THE WAY, TODAY ON OUR AGENDA, THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY FINAL RULE, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE STANDARD TO BE PLACED UP TO $10 MILLION FOR REVENUE LOSS UNDER THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, AND I'LL PITCH TO DALE TO GIVE HIS RECOMMENDATION. YES.

THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE BECAUSE MARIE AND I AND MY STAFF ARE WORKING ON THE QUARTERLY REPORT THAT'S GOING TO BE DUE ON THE END OF THIS MONTH, AND IT REQUIRES US TO TO SUBMIT OUR LOST REVENUE.

AND OUR LOST REVENUE IS A PORTION OF OUR TOTAL $70 MILLION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE TREASURY. SO WE HAVE UP TO WHAT WE CALCULATE OR A $10 MILLION DOLLARS AND WE HAVE TO CHOOSE EITHER ONE AND WE CAN'T GO BACK, BACK AND FORTH WHATEVER WE CHOOSE.

WE MUST HAVE. DO I PROVIDE YOU A REAL, LONG, LENGTHY COMPUTATION OF MY STAFF HAS GONE THROUGH AND SPENT MONTHS ON THIS TO TRY TO COME UP WITH STUFF.

NOW, IF WE USE WHAT WE CALCULATED, WE DO HAVE A CALCULATION OF $11 MILLION OF REVENUE LOSS. AND WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN IF WE CHOOSE? THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THE $70 MILLION, 11 MILLION IS FOR LOST REVENUE, THEN THAT WOULD ONLY GIVE YOU FIFTY NINE MILLION OF FUNDS FOR THE REMAINING SOURCE.

OR WE CAN CHOOSE THE 10 MILLION DOLLARS OF WHAT THE TREASURY IS SAYING, AND THAT GIVES YOU 60 MILLION OF THE REMAINING FOR YOUR ADDITIONAL COST FOR THIS.

WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE TEN DOLLARS BECAUSE EVERY YEAR THE TREASURY WOULD BE REQUIRING US TO RECALCULATE THIS, THESE THE NUMBER YOU HAVE ON THERE AND MY STAFF TOOK A MONTH AND A HALF TO DO THIS. SO THE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES, THE AMOUNT OF REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO DO AND TRACK AND THE EASE OF THE SAY AND THE TREASURY SAYING HERE TO TAKE 10 MILLION DOLLARS AND THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THE CALCULATIONS.

AND MARIA WILL TELL YOU ON THE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS.

THERE ARE SO MUCH MORE DETAILED REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU HAVE TO PUT IN AS YOU DO YOUR CALCULATIONS THAT THERE'S LIKE EIGHT OR NINE DIFFERENT TASKS THAT YOU HAD TO PUT IN.

IF YOU DO YOUR CALCULATION, IF YOU USE THEIR NUMBERS, YOU HAVE TO PUT TWO.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS WE ASSUME THAT OUR REVENUE LOSS FOR THIS PARTICULAR EVENT IS THE TEN DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE THAT GIVES US $10 MILLION FOR WE CAN USE FOR GOVERNMENTAL SERVICES AND THE 60 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THAT.

WE CAN USE THE REMAINING OF THE ARBIV FUNDS FOR WHATEVER THE COURT DECIDES, WHETHER THE DRAINAGE OR WHATEVER ELSE WE ARE WORKING ON.

AND MY RECOMMENDATION IS USE THE $10000 SO THAT MARIA CAN FINALIZE OUR REPORT FOR THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY.

OK, SO I GO BACK UP AND I SAY, CAN I GO BACK A LITTLE BIT? I WAS GOING TO SAY, LET ME GO BACK UP.

IT'S JUST THAT HE KNOWS IT SO WELL.

OH, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY BACKUP, AS I SAY, LET ME SEE IF I SPEAK, DALE.

SO WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS THAT YOU GUYS KNOW THAT UP UNTIL VERY RECENTLY, TREASURY HAD WHAT THEY CALLED INTERIM FINAL RULES.

THESE WERE RULES THAT WERE PROMULGATED ONCE CONGRESS PASSED THE ACT ITSELF.

AND WE'VE ALL BEEN OPERATING UNDER THEM.

AND IT SAID TO ALL OF THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS THAT GOT MONEY, HEY, YOU GUYS GO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH MONEY YOU LOST AND YOU CAN USE THAT MONEY TO PAY FOR GOVERNMENT SERVICES.

AND THEN AFTER MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS, AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, LOTS OF ADVOCACY FROM NACO, WHICH WE'RE A PART OF.

THEY MADE A DECISION TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU A FLOOR OF $10 MILLION. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO FIGURE IT OUT.

YOU CAN, IF YOU WANT TO, IF IT'S MUCH MORE THAN 10 MILLION.

BUT FOR YOU, SMALLER JURISDICTIONS OR MID-SIZE, IF YOU JUST WANT TO TAKE 10 MILLION, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT YOUR THRESHOLD.

$10 MILLION IS NOW YOUR NEW LOST REVENUE AND NOW YOU'VE GOT THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO MAKE GOVERNMENT SERVICES APPROPRIATIONS.

AND WHAT HE'S ASKING YOU GUYS TO DO IS IT IS HIS RECOMMENDATION BASED ON HIS MONTH AND A HALF OF CALCULATIONS TO ACCEPT THE 10 MILLION THAT THAT'S THE BETTER DEAL FOR US AND WE CAN DO WITH THAT INSTEAD OF INSTEAD OF PROBABLY NINE MILLION THAT WE WOULD HAVE.

MAYBE THE NEW RULES GAVE US A HIGHER THRESHOLD, HIGHER THRESHOLD.

SO IT'S RIGHT NOW OUR CALCULATED AMOUNTS 11 MILLION.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERY YEAR THE TREASURY IS GOING TO REQUIRE US TO RECALCULATE THIS AND EVERY YEAR IT COULD GO DOWN.

SO YOU'RE SAYING IT'S IT'S TAKE THE 10 OR OR RECALCULATE EVERY YEAR AND MAKE YOUR CASE? YEAH. AND JUST AND HAVE TO BE SUBJECT TO A CLAWBACK.

AND EVERYBODY'S BASICALLY FIGURED OUT THAT FOR OUR COUNTY AND FOR OUR PROCREATION, 10 10 MILLION IS IS A HUGE AMOUNT TO WORK WITH WITH FOUR GOVERNMENT SERVICES.

WHAT DO WE HAVE THREE BEFORE? WELL, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, THE FIRST YEAR WAS THREE, BUT THE TREASURY ALLOWS YOU TO DO UP TO THREE YEARS. AND WHEN THREE ARE CALCULATION, THAT COMES UP TO 11 MILLION.

IF WE DO A CALCULATED 10 A YEAR OR TWO, 10 TOTAL FLAT, OH 10 FLAT.

AND AND THE REASON, IF I CAN PUT IT EVEN TO GREATER PERSPECTIVE FOR YOU IS THAT IT'S JUST

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IN THE LOT. IS THAT EITHER WAY, IT'S A LOT 10 MILLION.

LOOK, JUST SEE YOU NOW.

I MEAN, WE WERE ALL JUMPING FOR JOY.

I WISH WE HAD A HIGHER AMOUNT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SAYING, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THREE AND A HALF MILLION CAN BE ALLOCATED FOR THIS PARTICULAR CATEGORY OF THE THIRTY FIVE MILLION THAT WE GOT OR THE INCEPTION TOTAL OF 10 FOR THE 70 MILLION WHICH WHICH. THAT'S THAT'S UM, IT'S SUBSTANTIAL.

GOOD. I JUST WISH IT WAS 30, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, BECAUSE RIGHT, WE WANT TO HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY. BUT NO, I UNDERSTAND.

I MEAN, YES, IT GIVES YOU FLEXIBILITY.

BUT LET ME TELL YOU, THEY HELPED US ON TO OTHER IT'S NOT AGENDA ITEM, SO I'LL GET IT BACK ON OUR NEW AGENDA NEXT WEEK.

BUT THEY HELPED US IN TWO OTHER CATEGORIES, WHICH ARE AWESOME TOO, THAT WE THOUGHT WE MIGHT HAVE TO USE PART OF THAT THREE AND A HALF FOR LOST AS LOST REVENUE AND THAT HAD TO DO WITH INSURANCE FUND.

HMM. SO THE TRUTH IS, IN MY OPINION, DALE, IT'S 10 MILLION PLUS THEY GAVE US ANOTHER PROBABLY A COUPLE MILLION FOR INSURANCE THAT DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT SERVICES. SOME OF THE THINGS OUT THEY DID.

AND THEN THEY GAVE US EVEN ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, HONESTLY.

THEY ALSO DID CHANGE ANOTHER ISSUE THAT BEFORE THE WHEN WE DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE, WE WE PUT IN SEVERAL NEW POSITIONS FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND SOME OF THE OTHER ONES WOULD HAVE HAD TO BEEN USED AT THE LOSS OF REVENUE.

BUT THE FINAL RULE CHANGES THAT AS WELL AND THAT THAT MOVES OUTSIDE THE THOSE RULES.

SO MY, MY, MY PARTY IS THAT WE HAVE TO ASSUME THAT THIS $10 MILLION IS PART OF THE TOTAL 70. SO MY CONCERN IS DO WE HAVE MORE NEED IN GOVERNMENT SERVICES OR DO WE HAVE MORE NEED ON THE OUTSIDE WHERE WE HAVE DRAINAGE AND AND AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF? SO. SO MY CONCERN IS WE'RE REAL CLOSE TO 10 MILLION.

LET'S JUST SAY 10 MEANS ARE OUR THRESHOLD AND BE DONE WITH IT, THEN WE KNOW WE HAVE AND THE HUMAN CAPITAL TO GO CALCULATE THAT EXTRA TAKE MONTHS.

IS IT WORTH THE JUICE? AND THAT'S FOR LOST.

THAT'S FOR THE REVENUE LOSS CATEGORY, WHICH EQUALS GOVERNMENT.

PLUS, THEY TOOK OUT SOME THINGS THAT WE USED TO HAVE TO CONSIDER IN THE LOST REVENUE CATEGORY AND PUT AND TOOK THAT OUT.

SO REALLY, WE'RE OK.

THAT MAKES A WAY IN THAT CATEGORY IS ALMOST THREE MILLION PLUS TO OUR FAVOR.

OK. THAT'S REALLY, REALLY HARD.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, JENNY OF Y'ALL, IF YOU LOOK, I GUESS YOU'VE LOOKED AT SOME OF THIS AND I JUST WANT. MAKE SURE WE'RE.

YES, WE HAVE AN ATTORNEY THAT WAS HIRED THROUGH THE ARPA FUNDS, WHO HAS BEEN WORKING CONSTANTLY WITH HAGGERTY AND WITH DALE AND A GROUP TO LOOK OVER THESE THINGS.

YOU JOIN IN THIS RECOMMENDATION.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW.

YES. OK.

ALL RIGHT. AND AND WE'RE SORRY TO BRING THIS SO QUICKLY TO YOU, BUT WE WERE REQUIRED ON JANUARY THE 31ST TO SUBMIT OUR REQUEST TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY.

IT JUST COMES AT THE SPEED OF SOUND.

I GET IT. I'M FINE MOTION TO APPROVE.

ALL RIGHT, MOTION IN A SECOND.

I'LL MAKE THE SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I BUY.

I WOULD JUST ASK THE NEXT TIME IF THERE'S SOMETHING COMES UP, YOU COULD PUT A LITTLE BACKGROUND IN THERE FOR US.

I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. WE WILL.

OK. ALSO, I'M SORRY.

TELL US AGAIN. OH, I DIDN'T EITHER, COMMISSIONER MATTIS, ARE YOU AND I ON THAT LAST ONE FOR THE FOR THE RECOMMENDATION TO ACCEPT 10 MILLION DOLLARS FOR REVENUE LOSS? YES, I AM. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE JUST LIKE TO SEE YOUR FACE, COMMISSIONER MORRIS.

I KNOW IT'S A RUSH TO TURN IT BACK ON AND I MISSED IT.

SO. IT'S A GREAT PLACE.

OK. SO AT THIS TIME, AND I AM ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THERE'S ITEMS THAT WE SKIPPED OVER SO THAT WE COULD TALK. YEAH, THAT ONE.

DID YOU GET? I HAD A I WOULD CHANGE MINE TO AN YOU GAVE MY NAME ON THIS, ON THE ONE BEFORE THAT ON WHICH WE'RE DOING THE $5000 WHATEVER YOU WANT ON THE INVOICES BEFORE YOU WENT. YOU JUST BROUGHT IT UP, SO I APPRECIATE.

KARA, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THANK YOU. I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

OK. OK, SO HAVING SAID ALL OF THAT? I THINK, YEAH, SO I'M ACKNOWLEDGING THERE'S STILL SOME ITEMS THAT WILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO, BUT THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE TAKEN UP IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE SKIPPED OVER ANY.

AND SO AT THIS TIME, LET ME GIVE PUBLIC NOTICE.

LET ME DOUBLE CHECK WHICH ONE DID I MISS ONE.

OK, HOLD ON UP HERE.

I'LL PULL UP HERE. DEMOLITION.

WE DID THAT. WE'RE GOING TO DO IT EXECUTIVE SESSION IN THAT ONE.

OK. ALL RIGHT.

SO LET ME GO BACK AND SAY THAT, AND I'M NOW GIVING PUBLIC NOTICE AT THIS TIME THAT WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IT'S AUTHORIZED BY THE PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT CHAPTER FIVE FIVE, ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

AND AS THE PRESIDING OFFICER, I'M PUBLICLY ANNOUNCING THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE

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AUTHORITY OF GOVERNMENT CODE, VERNON'S TEXAS CODE SECTIONS FIVE FIVE ONE SEVEN ONE SEVEN TWO SEVEN THREE SEVEN FOUR FOUR FIVE SIX EIGHT SIX AND EIGHT SEVEN.

WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THIS EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH OUR ATTORNEY ON THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED, INCLUDING MATTERS RELATING TO LITIGATION, REAL PROPERTY GIFTS, PERSONNEL MATTERS, TERMINATION, COUNTY ADVISORY, BODY SECURITY DEVICES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND ANY OTHER MATTERS THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION UPON COMPLETION OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE MAY COME BACK OUT IN OPEN SESSION AND TAKE SUCH ACTION AS APPROPRIATE ON ITEMS THAT WERE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE CLERK.

IT'S 1:02PM FOR THE COURT.

I'M GOING TO ASK OUT OF DEFERENCE FOR THE LADIES WHO HAVEN'T GOTTEN A CHANCE TO GET UP, THAT WE TAKE A SMALL BREAK AND THAT WE JOIN BACK HERE IN THE COURTROOM IF YOU BELONG HERE. IF NOT, I'D ASK THAT YOU ABANDON THE COURTROOM RIGHT NOW AND LET US CONDUCT OUR BUSINESS. AND CONNIE, WOULD YOU TAKE ALL OUR MIKES OFF FOR THOSE ONLINE WILL BE BACK AS SOON AS WE CONCLUDE.

OKAY. FOR THE CLERK, WE IT'S FOUR, TWENTY TWO P.M.

WE ARE BACK ON THE RECORD OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION, THERE ARE A FEW ITEMS TO UH.

WELL, THERE'S THERE'S ITEMS TO DEAL WITH A COUPLE OF TABLES, A COUPLE OF ACTION ITEMS. SO LET ME START WITH THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS ITEM A..

THERE'S A MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL FEBRUARY 2ND, WHICH IS OUR NEXT COURT, MADAM CLERK.

IS THERE A SECOND, A SECOND OK ITEM? THEY SAY, WHO MADE THE MOTION? I THOUGHT I COULD MAKE IT.

I'M NOT SURE THE SECOND DATE I HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE, YEAH, BUT BUT BASICALLY THERE WAS TWO ACTION ITEMS. ONE IS TO APPROVE AN ENGAGEMENT LETTER AND THEN NAME THE PERSON FOR THE ENGAGEMENT. WE'RE GOING TO TABLE THAT TO THE SECOND JUDGE.

MOVE YOUR MIKE CLOSER. YES, MA'AM.

PENDING SOME INFORMATION, WE'RE TABLING THAT ITEM TO FEBRUARY 2ND IS WHAT I SAID.

ITEM B WAS A CONSULT ONLY ITEM A.

THERE'S AN ACTION ITEM TO JUST DIRECT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO CONTINUE WORKING ON BASICALLY AN APPROPRIATE DOCUMENT TO BRING BACK TO THE COURT REGARDING THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HEARD THIS MORNING.

AND I'LL TAKE A MOTION FOR THAT AND MOTION.

I'LL SECOND.

OK, AND THEN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I AND THEN ITEM D ALSO WAS A CONSULT, BUT THERE IS AN ACTION ITEM THAT WE LEFT OFF, SO I'LL MOVE BACK TO THAT.

AND THEN ITEM E, THE ACTION ITEM IS THAT WE'VE INSTRUCTED THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO WITHIN ONE WEEK'S TIME, ALSO TO BRING US BACK A FORMALIZED.

MODIFICATION PURSUANT TO.

BUT PURSUANT TO THE REFORMATION.

WELL, PURSUANT TO THE ANNUAL MERIT INCREASE POLICIES AND THAT IS DEALING WITH THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT GRANTS JUDGE AND I'M SO SORRY, THAT'S RIGHT.

IT'S NOT IT'S NOT THE ANNUAL MERIT POLICIES THAT WAS ON THE EXECUTIVE EDITION.

IT'S ON THE THE THE WORK FORCE RETENTION GRANT.

YES. AND IT'S A RETENTION GRANT.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THAT FORMALIZED POTENTIAL MODIFICATION OF THE FORMULA AND ALSO TO INCLUDE THE CONSIDERATION FOR THE HEALTH DISTRICT EMPLOYEES ON THE RPA.

THAT IS CORRECT. THAT WILL BE ON THAT AGENDA ITEM.

THAT IS CORRECT. B ONE IS THAT IT'S B ONE.

THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT? MM HMM. SO SO THE THE.

ON E! IT WAS IT WAS A.

SAY IT AGAIN. HE IS WANTED RIGHT THERE.

IT'S SHE RIGHT.

IT IS CONFUSING. I SAID.

I SAID THEY'RE BOTH HAVING TO DO WITH PAY, BUT ONE IS ALL MERIT BASED AND THAT WAS LETTER E AND THAT WAS A CONSULT.

AND THE REAL DIRECTION COMES ON THE ACTION ITEM, WHICH WAS THE WORKFORCE GRANT ON B1.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND WE NEED SOME.

WE'RE VERY CLOSE, BUT WE ASKED THE COUNTY TO BRING IT BACK PENDING BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, GETTING SOME. SOME INFORMATION BACK, BOTH FROM PUBLIC HEALTH DISTRICT AS WELL AS DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND HEALTH SERVICES.

SO IT'S REALLY A TABLE, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, BUT THERE IS SOME ACTION THERE.

I'M OK WITH TABLING IT.

YEAH, I'M OK WITH TABLING IT, BUT THERE'S ALSO A LITTLE ACTION WHICH WON THE RETENTION,

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TABLING IT TILL FEBRUARY 2ND, BUT THERE IS SOME ACTION THAT WE'VE DIRECTED HIM TO DO SPECIFICALLY. SO IT'S KIND OF I THINK HE KNOWS WHAT THE DIRECTION IS.

I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE TABLE UNTIL FEBRUARY 2ND AND I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? OK? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

OK, I THINK I'VE GOT E ONE.

WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE? GO AHEAD! COMMISSIONER.

YOUR WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM HIM? OH, IT'S VOTING FOR ME, SURE.

YES. YOU HEAR. I FORGOT TO UNMUTE HIM, I'M SO SORRY.

YOU NEED TO SAY HI AGAIN.

JUST SAY I AGAIN, COMMISSIONER, WE COULDN'T HEAR YOU.

WHERE YOU KNOW, YOU WERE TALKING, I COULDN'T HEAR YOU.

OH, I'M SORRY.

OK. IT WAS THE MOTION TO TABLE.

THAT WAS A MOTION TO TABLE TO THE SECOND ON THE ITEM RELATED TO B, AS IN BARBARA ONE B ONE. OK.

AND SO THAT BRINGS US TO A COUPLE OF ITEMS. ONE IS ITEM SEVEN.

A SEVEN. AND IS THERE A MOTION AUTHORIZING THE COURT MANAGER TO RETAIN THE EMPLOYEE RECRUITING FIRM TO ASSIST WITH THE RECRUITMENT OF PROFESSIONAL STAFF FOR THE OFFICE? SOME OF I'LL SECOND.

OK. LOTS OF SECONDS.

YOU CAN CHOOSE WHOEVER YOU HEARD FIRST.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I.

OK, KYRA, I WANT YOU TO DOUBLE CHECK US, BUT I BELIEVE I'M ALSO LACKING E ONE.

SO I'LL MOVE TO THAT ONE.

NEXT, BELINDA. OK.

AND ON E ONE, DISCUSS AN AWARD THAT CSP NUMBER THREE ONE EIGHT SEVEN TWO ONE THE BOB HALL PIER DEMOLITION.

IS THERE A MOTION? PLEASE MOVE TO AWARD TO JIM DAVIDSON.

OK. IS THERE A SECOND? OK. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I BUY.

OK. AT THIS TIME, I LIKE TO JUST HAVE A DOUBLE CHECK OF THE AGENDA.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE CONCLUDED THE COURTS.

YOU HAVE THREE JUDGE JUDGE.

HE NEEDED TO CHANGE HIS VOTE ON THAT ONE.

ON DAY ONE, HE WANTED TO BE A NAY, NAY.

OK. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING UNDER AUDITOR, WHICH ONE, EF THREE AND NO, HE HAS JOINED BY ZOOM.

OH MY GOODNESS, I FORGOT ALL ABOUT KNOWING AND OJOTA.

SORRY ABOUT THAT KNOWIT.

THAT'S A HARD GUY TO FORGET, JOE.

NO, HE IS.

NO. YOU WERE GOING TO PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND TO REPLACE THE COUNTY'S ERP.

THAT'S THE ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING SYSTEM OR REPLACEMENT OF TIME CLOCKS.

SOME IDEAS, CONCEPTS ON FINANCING.

ACTUALLY, IT'S REALLY READS POSSIBLE FUNDING SOURCE.

OH, WE JUST NEED YOU TO UNMUTE THAT ONE'S NOT ON ME.

YEAH, I'M ON ME WITH THAT.

I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I'M AT A PARKING LOT HERE IN DALLAS, TEXAS, SO I'M ALMOST HOME.

SO FORGIVE ME FOR COMING THIS WAY TO YOU.

IN ANY EVENT, I WAS APPROACHED BY BY DAY EARLIER IN THE WEEK AND ASKED ME ABOUT THIS NEED FOR FUNDING.

I GUESS. EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SERVICES DATA SOFTWARE FOR ABOUT SIX MILLION DOLLARS AND WHAT SHE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF OPTIONS THE COUNTY HAD IN REGARDS TO FUNDING THEM FUNDING FOR THEM. AND BASICALLY, WE DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, THERE LITERALLY THREE WAYS YOU CAN FUND THIS THROUGH THAT.

BUT BEFORE WE DISCUSSED THAT, I WANTED TO KIND OF GET A FEEL FROM THE COUNTY COURT OR FROM COUNTY ARTHUR'S OFFICE.

GUESS WHERE, WHERE THE BALANCES ARE ON? BONDS HAVE BEEN ISSUED IN THE PAST.

BEFORE WE GO OUT AT NO ADDITIONAL DEBT, JUST BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT YOU MAYBE NOT HAVE ENCUMBERED, YOU KNOW, ALL THE OTHER FUNDS, BUT BUT LET'S SAY THAT YOU WANTED TO BORROW A SIX MILLION DOLLARS, THE SIX MILLION DOLLARS YOU COULD DO CLOS, OF COURSE, THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH OR OBLIGATION YOU CAN DO.

TAX NOTES AND PERMANENT PERMANENT PUBLIC FINANCE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS.

THIS LATTER TWO WILL AFFECT YOUR M.A.

TAX RATE OR YOUR OPERATING BUDGET, OR AS A CLASS WILL AFFECT YOUR OWN TAX RATE AND YOUR CURRENT DEBT PORTFOLIO IF, IN FACT YOU WANT TO GO OUT THROUGH CERTIFICATES OBLIGATION.

WE BELIEVE THAT YOU MAY BE ABLE TO FUND THE ENTIRE LOAN WITHOUT IMPACTING THE TAX RATE,

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BUT MAYBE AT THE EXPENSE OF FUNDING FUTURE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT YOU MAY ALREADY HAVE PLANNED FOR TO FUND SOMETIME IN TWENTY THREE.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY THE OPTIONS.

WE HAVE THREE OPTIONS AND BUT MAYBE, MAYBE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SIX MILLION.

MAYBE IT CAN BE LESS THAN THAT IF YOU HAVE OTHER FUNDS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO DEDICATE FOR FOUR SUCH PURCHASES FOR SUCH PURCHASE.

SO I'LL STOP AT THAT.

OK, THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION, I KNOW THAT THERE IS A WAY FOR US TO ACTUALLY RUN THE NUMBERS AND PROVIDE THAT BACKGROUND, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COURT NEXT WEEK.

WOULD IT BE TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR YOU TO RUN THE NUMBERS ON A SPREADSHEET SO WE COULD SEE HOW IT WOULD IMPACT OR COULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT EITHER THE RESERVES OR THE THE FUND BALANCE OR THE POTENTIAL TAX RATE JUST SO THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN'T MAKE A DECISION UNTIL WE ACTUALLY SEE THE SPREADSHEET, I THINK.

GO AHEAD. OF COURSE, IF WE GET SIX MILLION BARRELS, I'M NOT.

I'M NOT. I'M NOT FOR BORROWING.

LET ME TELL YOU RIGHT NOW SIX MILLION SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND PAYMENT.

WE'RE GOING TO MAKE BESIDES THE ONE POINT FIVE THAT WE'RE MAKING NOW ALREADY, RIGHT? AND ALSO YOU GO THREE MILLION AND YOU GO 300000 PAYMENT.

BUT YOU SAID THERE WERE THREE OPTIONS AND THE OPTION WAS IF WE USE THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE IN THE SIPP NOW AND WE COME UP WITH A, SAY, TWO MILLION OR THREE MILLION.

SO THAT GIVES US A BALANCE OF THREE.

AND I DON'T KNOW. I WAS GOING TO ASK DEL TO SEE WHERE HE CAN FIND SOME MONEY, ALWAYS FIND SOME MONEY SOMEWHERE. YOU KNOW, WE CAN COME UP WITH ONE MILLION OR TWO MILLION.

SO, YOU KNOW, NOW WE'RE DOWN TO MAYBE TWO MILLION AND A HALF OR TWO MILLION.

I THINK WE CAN I THINK WE CAN FIND THE MONEY FOR THIS ONE HERE WITHOUT HAVING TO BORROW AGAIN. I MEAN, I JUST DON'T I JUST DON'T LIKE BORROWING AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO PAY MORE AND TAKE A CHANCE AT, YOU KNOW, NEXT TIME WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY.

SO. SO MY I MEAN, DO YOU KIND OF AGREE, MAYBE THAT'S IT, WE CAN FIND THIS MONEY SOMEWHERE. WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW? SO MAYBE SOME OF THE AU'S CEOS OWES SOME OF THE MAYBE THE CIP AND YES.

YEAH, I THINK, COMMISSIONER, IF YOU GIVE US A WEEK, I THINK I COULD WORK WITH WITH DALE AND I DARE TO SEE, AS THE JUDGE HAS SAID, TO SEE IF THERE ARE OTHER FUNDS AVAILABLE IN OTHER BUCKETS AND THEN COME BACK TO YOU WITH FULL HOPEFULLY WITH WITH A FINANCING THAT MAYBE IT'S NOT SIX, MAYBE IT'S LESS THAN SIX.

MAYBE IT'S NOTHING.

AND BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE REALLY HAVEN'T.

IT WE HAVEN'T TAKEN A DOVE INTO THAT AND TO THAT AND TO KNOWING WHAT YOUR OPTIONS ARE.

I THINK OPTIONS ARE FINANCING OF FINANCING.

THE PROJECT IS THREE OPTIONS.

I MEAN, I'M SURE YOU HAVE MORE THAN THREE, BUT THERE ARE THREE OPTIONS, AT LEAST LEGALLY.

THEN THE QUESTION IS HOW MUCH SHOULD YOU FINANCE OR HOW MUCH YOU PAY WITH CASH? SO THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO FIND OUT FOR YOU WHETHER WE SHOULD BORROW A SIX FIVE, FOUR THREE, TWO ONE OR ZERO AND WE NEED TO SEE IF THERE ARE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE IN OTHER AREAS SO THAT YOU BORROW LESS.

AND IF YOU GIVE US A WEEK, I THINK NEXT WEEK WE CAN DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BETTER.

TWO OR ZEROES ON.

GOOD TO ME. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BRING OUT IS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME QUESTIONS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT A CEO, TWENTY ONE OR ANY PREVIOUS CEOS ACCOUNTED FOR SOFTWARE, AND I'M GETTING CONFLICTING INFORMATION.

SO WE NEED TO FIND OUT. OTHER PREVIOUS ISSUES GAVE US THE LEGAL AUTHORITY SO WE CAN DO THAT. YEAH, IF YOU WOULD LOOK AT THAT, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S THE DE MINIMIS PIECE OF IT. I THINK WE MEET THAT DE MINIMIS REQUIREMENT OF 10 PERCENT.

THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE NOW.

THE ISSUE IS WHETHER OR NOT IT INCLUDED, BUT I HAVE TO THINK THAT IT DID BECAUSE YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER, BUT THE COURT WILL REMEMBER, WE PUT SOFTWARE AS A SERVICE, AS SAS.

WE PAID FOR THAT ALREADY FROM CEO TWENTY ONES AND ALSO PREVIOUS CEO TWENTY.

SO I'M I'M I NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT THAT'S KIND OF GOING BACK AND FORTH ALREADY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT, WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S THAT QUALIFIES.

BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A HYBRID APPROACH, MY ASK IS THAT IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE INS TAX

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RATE AT ALL.

AND OF COURSE, THAT WOULD BE YOURS AS WELL.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THAT THE FUND BALANCE WOULD NOT BE HURT.

AS LONG AS THERE WOULD BE A PLAN OF ACTION, THE FUND BALANCE WOULD BE HURT, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO CREATE A PLAN OF ACTION TO REFINANCE OR TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH, BUT UM YEAH, I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO BRING ALL THAT BACK TO US BY NEXT WEEK, IS WHAT I'M HEARING.

THAT'S RIGHT. OK.

OK. AND AS YOU'RE MEETING NEXT WEDNESDAY, ALSO, IT IS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DIDN'T GET TO HEAR THIS PART, BUT WE HAD OUR CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER.

WE BASICALLY QUIZZED HIM AND HE SAID, LOOK, YOU, YOU DO NEED TO MAKE THIS REPLACEMENT.

IT IS ESSENTIAL.

IT IS TIMELY AND YOU WILL BE IN WORSE POSITION FINANCIALLY IF YOU DON'T MAKE THIS TIMELY PROCUREMENT. SO I GUESS TIME IS A LITTLE BIT OF THE ESSENCE IN ORDER TO MAKE A DECISION SO THEY CAN GO OUT FOR PROCUREMENT OF THIS TYPE OF SOFTWARE.

YEAH, I'M SURE THAT JUST YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME WE CAN SHARE OUR THOUGHTS AND AND MAYBE OUR RECOMMENDATION TO YOU ALL NEXT WEEK AND ONE THAT EVERYBODY CAN SLEEP WELL WITH WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION OR THAT FINDING SO.

COME BACK TO YOU. OK.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, WAIT TILL NEXT WEEK.

THANK YOU. NO, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, EVERYONE. GOOD AFTERNOON.

HEY, GOOD AFTERNOON.

OK, SO THAT HELPS THAT THAT GIVES US SOME SOMETHING TO CHEW ON, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW TILL YOU SEE THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.

AND ALSO, I GUESS WE'LL DO THE SCOURING OF THE WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

BUT IF THERE'S MILLIONS OF DOLLARS LYING AROUND AND WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT, THAT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

BUT I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ALSO SOME QUESTION AS TO WHETHER IT IS OR IT ISN'T ELIGIBLE UNDER AAP.

I'M LOOKING AT CAITLIN TAYLOR'S STATEMENT, AND ON ONE HAND, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S YES.

AND ON THE OTHER HAND, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ONE EXAMPLE OF WHERE TREASURY KICKED IT BACK IN ANOTHER JURISDICTION.

SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS I'M GOING TO WANT TO HAVE ANSWERED BY NEXT WEEK IS, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU CAN'T PICK A BUCKET UNLESS, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S TRULY ELIGIBLE.

SO IF YOU ALL COULD HELP US WITH THAT A DEAL, THAT'D BE GREAT.

I THINK EVERYONE'S GOT THE GOT IT IN THEIR MINDS THAT IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

AND NOW IT'S A MATTER OF HOW DO WE FINANCE IT CORRECTLY? SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF.

WORK IN THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS, BUT WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK WITH IT.

YEAH. APPRECIATE IT AND DEFINITELY GET THE.

THE THE YES OR NO ON THE OLD, EVERY CEO HAS DIFFERENT AUTHORITY, SO WE'LL NEED TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT AUTHORITIES ARE OUT THERE.

ONE OF THE LAST FEW CEOS WE'VE ACTUALLY ALWAYS PUT IT AS PART OF A.

YEAH, THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION.

BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE WITH OUR LAWYERS.

YEAH, I AGREE. AND AGAIN, SOFTWARE AS A SERVICE IS ALREADY ON THERE, AND THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED IT EARLIER.

OK, AND ALSO THE PRIORITIZATION, IF YOU'LL RECALL THAT WE DID ON THE 50 MILLION ON THE CEOS ACTUALLY CONTEMPLATED MONEY FOR THIS SOFTWARE.

DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER HOW MUCH? I BELIEVE WHEN YOU DID THE LAST ONE FOR THE SOFTWARE SOLUTION, THAT WAS ONE MILLION, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, BUT I'M BEING CORRECTED, BUT I THINK IT WAS CLOSE FOR ONE POINT THREE. IT WAS CLOSE TO THAT NUMBER.

WELL, WE HAVE TO GO BACK.

WE NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT TO THERESA.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE COURT MADE A PRIORITIZATION ALREADY FOR CEOS TWENTY TWENTY ONE BASED UPON BOND COUNSEL.

AND WE WE DID THAT.

I REALIZED IT'S NOT BINDING UNTIL WE COME IN.

BUT STILL, IT'S A GOOD INDICATION THAT THAT WE HAVE SOME INTENTION OF USING SOME DOLLARS FROM THE TWENTY ONES.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE CAN LOOK AT THE HYBRID OF WHAT KNOWIT BRINGS TO US FOR THE REMAINDER. IF IF WE CAN'T FIND IT FROM ANOTHER SOURCE.

OK. AND NOW I'M GOING TO ASK AGAIN, DO YOU THINK THAT WE HAVE NOW CONCLUDED THE COURT'S BUSINESS? I DON'T KNOW IF DID DO A FORMAL MOTION TO TABLE THIS ERP ITEM? NO, I GUESS WE CAN DO THAT MOTION IN A SECOND.

AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I I.

OK. ANYTHING ELSE? WE'RE GOOD. SO THAT DOES CONCLUDE THE COURT'S BUSINESS, AND I'LL MOVE TO ADJOURNMENTS IN MEMORY AT THIS TIME AND I'LL CALL ON JUST ALL THE WAY THE SWING COME IN.

[ Adjournment in Memory (upon request)]

MR. CHESNEY. JUDGE, I WAS TRYING TO FIND THE OBITUARY, AND I CAN'T I'M SORRY, I'M NOT ABLE TO LOCATE ONE WITH ANY DETAIL ON IT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO OFFER THE CONDOLENCES TO TO THE FAMILY OF CRUZ COLOMBO.

I'M SURE IF YOU'VE LIVED IN CORPUS CHRISTI FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME YOU WHO HAVE RUN ACROSS OR YOU HAVE YOU HAD RUN ACROSS CRUZ COLOMBO, SHE WAS ONE OF THE MOST PERSISTENT

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INDIVIDUALS EVER.

SHE WAS JUST A FIGHTER.

SHE FOR ALL KINDS OF GREAT CAUSES IN THIS COMMUNITY AND AND YOU KNOW, YOU COULD YOU COULD VERY EASILY DISAGREE WITH HER AND SHE WOULD ALWAYS BE YOUR FRIEND OR YOU COULD AGREE WITH HER AND SHE'D BE YOUR FRIEND. IT DIDN'T REALLY MATTER.

SHE WAS JUST YOUR FRIEND, AND I HADN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE CRUZ IN HER LATER YEARS. SHE'S HAD A LOT OF HEALTH PROBLEMS, BUT TO HER DAUGHTER, KATHY ROJAS AND ALL THE FAMILY, I WANTED TO OFFER CONDOLENCES ON BEHALF OF THE NOYCE'S COUNTY TO TO CRUZ COLOMBO.

I FOUND I HAD THE THE OBIT ON THAT.

OK, GO AHEAD.

YEAH, I BEFORE READING IT, I JUST POLITICALLY, I JUST REMEMBER HER COMMUNITY SHOW HER HER ORGANIZATION THAT SHE HAD TO HAVE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY AND IN POLITICS.

I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PLACES I REMEMBER GOING WHEN I WAS YOUNG AND JUST STARTING OUT IN POLITICS AND RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL, AND SO I WAS VERY SADDENED TO HEAR OF HER PASSING.

AND SO LET ME SHARE THE THE OBITUARY.

CHRIS CUOMO SEVENTY SIX, WAS CALLED HOME TO HEAVEN AND PASSED AWAY ON JANUARY 13.

TWENTY TWENTY TWO.

SHE WAS BORN SEPTEMBER 14 NINETEEN FORTY FIVE IN CORPUS CHRISTI TO PAULINO AND REFUGIA RUIZ. SHE ATTENDED ROY MILLER HIGH SCHOOL AND WAS A PROUD BUCK.

SHE WANTED TO BE REMEMBERED AS A STRONG COMMUNITY CHAMPION AND FIERCE ADVOCATE FOR WOMEN'S EMPOWERMENT.

SHE LOVED HER CITY AND THE POLITICAL PROCESS AND WAS PART OF MANY POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS, ORGANIZATIONS AND COMMITTEES.

YEARS AGO, SHE RAN FOR CITY COUNCIL AND HAD HER OWN TALK SHOW ON KTN V.

SHE PARTICIPATED IN NUMEROUS FUNDRAISERS CHAMBER EVENTS.

IT WAS A TRUE SOCIAL BUTTERFLY.

SHE IS SURVIVED BY HER HUSBAND AND HER DAUGHTERS, HER GRANDCHILDREN, SISTERS AND SISTER IN LAW, AND NUMEROUS AUNTS, UNCLES, COUSINS, NEPHEWS, NIECES AND COUNTLESS FRIENDS.

AND SO HER VISITATION WAS HELD LAST WEEK, AND A MASS WAS HELD ON JANUARY THE 19TH AND MOST PRECIOUS BLOOD CATHOLIC CHURCH.

AND SHE WAS BURIED AT THE COASTAL BEND STATE VETERANS CEMETERY.

SO AND SHE WILL BE MISSED.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND DO? WELL, COMMISSIONER CORZINE AND COMMISSIONER MORRIS ON SHE WAS SOMETHING ELSE SHE WAS.

SEE WHAT YOU DO, BUT SHE WAS SHE WOULD TELL YOU WHAT SHE WAS THINKING.

SHE DIDN'T AND SHE DIDN'T CARE.

YOU KNOW, WHILE YOU FELT ABOUT IT, BUT KNOW SHE WAS OPEN MINDED AND A VERY STRONG PERSON AND VERY STRONG WILLED, AND SHE HAD ONE OF THE BEST POLITICAL PROGRAMS THAT I CAN REMEMBER WHERE PEOPLE ACTUALLY WILL GO THERE AND DEBATE THERE, YOU KNOW, AND SHE ALWAYS WAS FAIR TO EVERYBODY THAT PARTICIPATED.

SO MY CONDOLENCES AND MY PRAYERS TO HER FAMILY.

AND HER HUSBAND, THE ADVOCATE FOR VETERANS OFFICER, ALSO THAT HE THERE IN CORONA.

AND ALSO LIKE TO ADJUST AGAIN TO PAY RESPECTS TO CIVIL SEVERE FAMILY IN REFERENCE TO MINGLE, CALL AND MINGLE JOSE DOMINGO AS SEVILLA JUNIOR.

UH, WAS THERE, SO HE HAD PASSED AWAY AT THE AGE OF FIFTY THREE ON JANUARY THE 18TH TWENTY TWENTY TWO. MINGO WAS BORN FEBRUARY 19TH NINETEEN SIXTY EIGHT TO SAY DOMINGOS, SEVILLA JUNIOR AND IN REGATTA, THE VILLA TORTOISE BEING FLOWN TO ACADIA GARIBALDI OVER TWENTY SIX YEARS. DO YOU ENJOY WALKING AND RUNNING DOWN OCEAN DRIVE? WITH HIS FAMILY.

CHARGING OVER ONE.

ENJOY. JORDAN, EVERYONE $20.

AND IF YOU WENT THERE EVERY TIME HE WENT TO PAY WAS 20 DOLLARS, NO MATTER WHAT THE PRICE WAS. IF YOU WAS UNDER $20 IN GEORGIA, 20 DOLLARS.

DANCING AND SINGING KARAOKE, BEFRIENDING EVERY PERSON WHO WALKED THROUGH THE RESTAURANT DOORS. SPENDING TIME WITH HIS.

GRANDKIDS AND CHILDREN.

HE WILL ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED FOR HIS LOVE OF LAUGHTER.

SERVICE AND COMMUNITY DEVOTIONS TO FAMILY, PLAYFUL SENSE OF HUMOR AND BRIGHT OUTLOOK OF

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LIFE. BINGO WAS A LOVING FATHER, SON, BROTHER, COUSIN, GRANDFATHER, BOSS AND HUMAN BEING.

BINGO IS SURVIVED BY HIS LOVING CHILDREN, ERICA LUNA, CLAUDIA, YVETTE MARTIN.

STEPHANIE? STEPHANIE.

SO VASQUEZ WAS THERE, DOMINGO SEVERE, THE THIRD GRANDCHILDREN, ERIC, SYLVIA, ROSALYN, MIA BURDEN. EMILY LUNA, DANIEL LUNA JR.

SISTERS MARIA, NEAR THE SEVERE TORTOISE.

RAINHA, ISABEL SEVERE.

VERY WELL, SEVERE, BUT YEAH, AND YOU GET THE SEVERE NIECES AND NEPHEWS, KAREN, RAMITA SEVERE, BRENDA RAMIREZ SEVERE.

BE BRIANNA RAMIREZ OF HERE.

THE LOPEZ.

JONATHAN, TELL THEM.

CHRISTOPHER GONADAL.

RAINA. THABO GUERRERO, DOMINGO SIGNS.

BUT I WONDER WHAT? MARYANNE SALINAS.

SEVERE, ENRIQUE SELINA'S SEVERE.

MY MOTHER, SELENA'S SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS, SEVERE.

JESSICA MOYA, JENNIFER IBARRA, SANTIAGO GAMBOA.

SERGIO GAMBOA.

WAS SHE LOOKING MORE? GLORIA MARTINEZ, MONICA MARTINEZ, DENISE MARTINEZ, AMY MARTINEZ AND MANY MORE.

HE WAS MARRIED AT THE.

THESE, SAY, MEMORIAL PARK.

AND MASS WAS HELD AT CORPUS CHRISTI CATHEDRAL.

HE WILL ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED FOR HIS MOM AND LEFT.

AND EASY, IT WAS MR. GARIBALDI, THE PRAYERS OF THE FAMILY GOES OUT TO THE FAMILY CONDOLENCES.

THANK YOU. LOOK IT.

YES, JUDGE, THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SHINE THE SAME THING, MR. COMMISSIONER CHESKY AND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ JUST SAID ALSO NEW CLUES.

SHE WAS VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.

SHE WOULD ALWAYS HELP US. SHE WAS A MEMBER OF THE COFFEE CLUB.

HAVE US. SO SHE SHE WAS JUST A GREAT LADY.

SO MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY.

AND WE'LL KEEP HER.

I'LL KEEP HER IN OUR PRAYERS.

SO THANK YOU.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY A LITTLE SOMETHING ABOUT MINGO SYLVIA.

HE WAS A GOOD PERSON.

HE WAS THE ONE THAT KIND OF GAVE US ROOM THERE AT HIS RESTAURANT.

WE STARTED THAT PROGRAM WAS WITH DAVID LOYOLA, AND HE WAS VERY WELCOMING TO US.

AND, YOU KNOW, MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY.

AND WE'LL KEEP HIM. KEEP HIM IN OUR PRAYERS.

THANK YOU. OK.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER ADJOURNMENTS IN MEMORY? OK. WELL, I TOO WANT TO ADD OUR SYMPATHIES ON BEHALF OF NUECES COUNTY AND OUR FAMILIES, TO THE COLOMBO FAMILY, TO MINGO AND THE WHOLE GARIBALDI FAMILY THERE AT THE RESTAURANT, WHO I KNOW ARE ARE FEELING THIS GREAT LOSS AS HE WAS SORT OF OUR OUR NEIGHBOR AND OUR FRIEND AND WELCOMED EVERYBODY IN WITH OPEN ARMS. I ALSO RECEIVED JUST MOMENTS AGO, I THINK WE'VE LOST ANOTHER THREE INDIVIDUALS TO COVID 19, SO WE EXPRESS OUR CONDOLENCES AS WELL TO THOSE FAMILIES.

AND ALTHOUGH WE DO NOT HAVE HIS OBITUARY, I MENTIONED THIS ON MONDAY THAT WE LOST NICK ADAMS SON AND HE WAS ONLY 30 YEARS OLD, AND I HOPE TO HAVE MAYBE NEXT WEEK THAT COMPLETE THAT COMPLETE OBITUARY AND OUR DEEPEST SYMPATHIES IN THE MEANTIME TO THE ADAMI FAMILY, TO THE WHOLE FAMILY.

AND WE WE CONCLUDE TODAY THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THEM, AND WE HOPE THAT THEY'RE COMFORTED BY KNOWING THAT THEY ARE WITH THEIR LORD AND ALSO COMFORTED BY THEIR MEMORIES OF THEIR LOVED ONES. I DON'T KNOW WHERE MY GAVEL WENT.

IT'S OVER HERE. BUT WITH THAT HAVING NO MORE ADJOURNMENTS AND MEMORY, IT IS FOUR FIFTY ON THE DOT AND IT IS TIME TO ADJOURN AND I'LL JUST DO THE METAPHORICAL.

WE'RE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.