[1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:13] >> GOOD MORNING. WE WILL GET STARTED THIS MORNING WITH COMMISSIONERS COURT I WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. I WILL ASK YOU PLEASE RAISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE TEXAS FLAG. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG; I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. >> GOOD MORNING. IT IS 8:39 AM AND THE DATE IS JANUARY 12, 2022. WE ARE IN A COMMISSIONERS COURT ROOM THIS MORNING WHICH IS LOCATED AT 901 INSIDE THE [C. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.] NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND I CERTIFY THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT AND THIS FORUM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED. I WILL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME AND ASK IF WE HAVE A ROSTER THIS MORNING. I HAVE SEEN A COUPLE PEOPLE. ONCE WE GET THAT ROSTER AND ALSO WELCOME THOSE ONLINE IF YOU WISH TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT WE USE THE VIRTUAL ICON OF A HAND TO INDICATE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE US A COMMENT ONLINE. HERE COMES TERESA. THANK YOU. AND IT IS JUST ONE PERSON AND I RECOGNIZE HER AND ASK THAT ALL RECOGNIZE OUR DISTRICT CLERK. AND INVITE HER TO THE PODIUM. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. JUDGE CANALES AND COMMISSIONERS COURT, GOOD MORNING. THE LAST TIME I MADE A PUBLIC COMMENT IT WAS TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO YOU WITH TWO SHADOW BOXES SENT TO US BY AND IT CONTAINED TWO VOLUMES VOLUME A AND VOLUME B WITH CODEX'S AND INDEXES FOR THE DISTRICT COURT THAT HAD BEEN PRESERVED AND ARE NOW SAFELY ENSCONCED IN HIS SUMMA BITERS THAT WILL KEEP IT SAFE FROM FIRE WHEN HURRICANE WHATEVER.I JUST RECENTLY RECEIVED A THIRD SET A BOX WITH VOLUME C OF THE COURT MINUTES AND INDEXES AND I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT IT AND GIVE IT TO JUDGE CANALES AND COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR THEIR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF MY PRESERVATION PROJECT. >> FANTASTIC. REALLY BEAUTIFUL. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO STAND UP AND TAKE A QUICK LOOK. I KNOW YOU ARE BLOCKED A LITTLE BY OUR FANTASTIC. I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ASK, OKAY, I WAS GOING TO SAY, I WAS GOING TO ASK IF ANYONE HAD ANY GOOD SUGGESTIONS. WE WILLMOVE IT TO THE SIDE . NORMALLY, WE WOULD TAKE A BIG PICTURE AND HUGGEDEACH OTHER BUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS TAKE A RAIN CHECK ON OF THE HUG IN THE PHOTO , IF THAT'S OKAY. WE WILL INVITE EVERYBODY BACK SO WE CAN DO THIS PROPERLY WHEN WE ARE NOT IN THIS BIG OLD SURGE WE ARE IN. BEAUTIFUL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? OKAY MY ONLY PUBLIC COMMENT IS TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THIS SATURDAY IS OUR JUNIOR LIVESTOCK SHOW AND IT'S GOING TO BE JUST TERRIFIC. THERE WILL BE AMAZING DISPLAYS OF OUR OVER 2000 PARTICIPANTS THAT COME IN FROM ALL AREAS OF NUECES COUNTY TO SHOW THEIR ANIMALS AND ALSO THERE AGRICULTURE PROJECTS WHICH ARE AMAZING. IT'S A BIG HOMEMAKING SHOW AND PHOTOGRAPHY HAS ALREADY BEEN JUDGED.HERE IS A CARNIVAL OUT THERE. [00:05:04] IT'S AN INCREDIBLE FAMILY DRIVEN EVENT. AND, WE WANT TO HAVE EVERYBODY COME AND JOIN BUT BE SUPERSAFE AND SO PLEASE IF YOU COULD, WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO DO EVERYTHING YOU HAVE BEEN DOING WHEN YOU ARE PARTICIPATING IN A PUBLIC EVENT. IT IS VERY SPECIAL AND YOU CAN TAKE TURNS WATCHING IT ON TELEVISION. YOU CAN HAVE A VIRTUAL EXPERIENCE IF YOU THINK THAT IS BEST FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. AGAIN, THE JUNIOR LIVESTOCK SHOW WE HAVE ALL THE VOLUNTEERS AND THE KIDS AND PARTICULARLY ALL THE SPONSORS THAT MAKE IT POSSIBLE. SO THESE KIDS CAN EARN THEIR SCHOLARSHIP MONEY FOR COLLEGE. WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT SCENE WE HAVE NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT AND MOVE INTO OUR AGENDA. THERE ARE THREE AGENDA ITEMS AND THEY ARE ALSO LISTED IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, AS WELL. ON ITEMS NUMBER ONE AND THREE. LET ME DOUBLE CHECK THAT. ITEMS NUMBER ONE AND THREE ARE ALSO REFLECTED INSIDE OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR THE PUBLIC, JENNY, IF WE AT LEAST ANNOUNCE THEM. WE WILL ANNOUNCE WHAT IS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS IF YOU COULD MAKE TO GIVE AN UPDATE TO THE FOLKS WATCHING COME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE, AS TO WHAT TRANSPIRED LAST NIGHT. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE WAS A DECISION MADE BY THE CITY AND IT WAS MADE AROUND 8O'CLOCK LAST NIGHT . I FOUND OUT FROM NOT AN OFFICIAL SOURCE BUT FROM A REPORTER BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST IF YOU ARTICULATE THAT. I WILL START WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE WHICH IS TO DISCUSS AND [1. Discuss and consider Third Amendment to the Reformed Cooperative Agreement with the City of Corpus Christi regarding an extension of City's expressed withdrawal from the Corpus Christi-Nueces County Public Health District (CCNCPHD), and related matters.] CONSIDERTHE THIRD MOVEMENT TO REFORM THE AGREEMENT . WITH THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI REGARDING THE CITY TO DISCUSS CONSIDER REQUEST WITHDRAWAL THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AS TO NUMBER TWO, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADOPTING RESPONSE TO THE OUTCOME OF THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI CITY COUNCIL MEETING YESTERDAY TUESDAY, JANUARY 11, RELATED TO THE CORPUS CHRISTI NUECES COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH DISTRICT. AND THEN OF COURSE THE AGENDA ITEM CALLS FOR DISCUSS AND CONSIDERING A PLAN FOR THE CONTINUED PROVISION OF PUBLIC HEALTH BY THE COUNTY. BUT MAYBE YOU COULD, AT THIS POINT, GIVE US AN UPDATE AND ITEM NUMBER THREE I WOULD ASK FOR AN UPDATE, AS WELL. [2. Discuss and consider adopting a response to the outcome of the City of Corpus Christi City Council meeting on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 related to the Corpus Christi-Nueces County Public Health District (CCNCPHD); discuss and consider adopting a plan for the continued provision of Public Health Services by the County, and related matters.] BUT, LET'S DO NUMBER TWO FIRST. >> LAST NIGHT AROUND 8 O'CLOCK, THE CITY COUNCIL CAME OUT OF THEIR EXECUTIVE SESSION, THEY HAD OTHER THINGS FIRST BUT AROUND 8 O'CLOCK THEY DID PASS A VOTE TO EXTEND FOR 30 DAYS AND I BELIEVE THAT'S 30 DAYS PAST THE JANUARY 18 INITIAL EXPRESSED WITHDRAWAL DATE OF THE CITY FROM THE HEALTH DISTRICT. >> I AM EXPECTING A DOCUMENT AT ANY MOMENT THAT WILL MEMORIALIZE THAT FOR THE COURT TO CONSIDER. >> BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW? >> WE DO NOT. >> IN LIGHT OF THE FACT WE ARE WAITING ON THAT AND THAT'S THE ONLY UPDATE YOU CAN PROVIDE? >> YES. >> OKAY. >> JUDGE, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING BEFORE WE VOTED ON THE DEADLINE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION BUT WE ALL NEED A DEADLINE TO START WITH THAT. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE DEADLINE AND THEN GO WORK ON THE REST OF THE STUFF AND SEE IF WE CAN GET ANYWHERE ON IT. THE 30 DAYS TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION. >> I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A DOCUMENT TO LOOK AT AND ME TO HAVE A LEGAL DISCUSSION FIRST ESTIMATE THE EFFECT OF THAT IS. SO, I WILL TAKE YOUR MOTION AND HOLD ON IT UNTIL AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION. LEX LET ME CLARIFY, MY >> LET ME CLARIFY, MY MOTION IS TO ACCEPT THE 30 DAY EXTENSION OBSERVING ALL RIGHTS THE SAME MOTION I DID BEFORE RESERVING ALL RIGHTS AND THAT BEING THE MOTION FOR TODAY TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE STILL NEED TO GO IN THE BATHROOM AND WORK ON THINGS. LIKE I SAY, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME EXTENSION. LET'S GET SOMETHING GOING. >> I UNDERSTAND AND I THINK THE WAY YOU PHRASED IT IN THAT MOTION RESERVATION OF ALL RIGHTS. IN OTHER WORDS, FOR THE AVERAGE PERSON LISTENING TO US AND MAYBE NOT HAVING HEARD US LAST TIME. I WILL COVER DISCUSSION TO [00:10:01] EXPAND UPON IT SO COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IS MOTION. >> I SECONDS. >> YES, WE HEARD YOU. THE MOTION IS LOOK, THE IDEA HERE IS THAT JANUARY 18 IS UNTENABLE BECAUSE IT IS NEXT WEEK.HE CITY HAS SAID WE ARE GOING TO MOVE THAT, WHAT IS OUR DUE DATE, FEBRUARY 17 AND WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF GOOD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT IN THE BACK ROOM BUT AS FOR NOW WE ALL AGREE THAT JANUARY 18 IS NOT GOOD AND THAT FEBRUARY 17 IS 30 DAYS LATER AND WE WILL VOTE TO STILL PRESERVE ALL OF OUR RIGHTS IN THAT PROCESS. SO, THAT IS EMOTION AND WE WILL DISCUSS ALL OF OUR LEGAL POSITIONING HERE AFTER AFTERWARDS. >> ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THE REASON I'M DISTINCTION THIS FROM WHATEVER WE DO IN THE BACK ROOM IS THAT WOULD IN MY OPINION IF WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING TODAY THAT WOULD BE A SECOND MOTION AND WE WOULDN'T WANT TO TIE THE FIRST MOTION AND WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE A CLEAN, GET THIS ONE DONE. >> I UNDERSTAND AND I CONCUR WITH THAT. MY ONLY CONCERN IS WITHOUT A DOCUMENT I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SAY. >> I'M NOT SAYING WERE GOING TO ACCEPT THE DOCUMENT I'M SAYING LOOKING AT EXCEPT EMOTION. IT WILL MAKE THE MOTION CONTINGENT ON A LEGAL REVIEW TO MAKE SURE TO LEGALLY SUFFICIENT LIKE WE DO A LOT OF TIMES. I THINK WE NEED TO GET THIS ONE DONE AND OVER. I WANT TO GET AN EXTENSION. >> I HEAR YOU, I AM WITH YOU. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT JANUARY 18 IS NOT THE DAY. I THINK ALL OF US WANT THAT. I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME REAL DIALOGUE AS TO FIGURING OUT HOW TO CONVEY THAT BECAUSE THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS THEY COMPLETELY MISINTERPRETED IT AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY CATCH THAT THE RIGHT WAY THIS TIME. SO, I AM WITH YOU ON THAT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE ON THAT PART OF IT AND WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL COME OUT TODAY. AND I THINK THEY GOT IN THE SAME BOAT. SOME HAD NOT SEEN IT SO THEY DID THE SAME THING WE DID LAST WEEK. THEYTOOK A BREAK AND SAID WE NEED TO GO SEE IT. WE TOOK OUR WEEK . >> THE ONLY THING I KNOW YOU AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT PRESERVING ALL RIGHT BUT I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IS THE AVERAGE PERSON DOESN'T. SO IN THIS DISCUSSION LET ME SEE IF I CAN HAVE A GOOD CONVERSATION WITH YOU AND THE REST OF THE COURT ABOUT REALLY WHAT THAT MEANS. WHAT IT MEANS TO ME, BUT I AM GOING TO HAVE YOU, YOU KNOW, CHIME IN HERE. WHAT IT MEANS TO ME IS WE ARE GOING TO KEEP NEGOTIATING AS TO WHAT THE COURTS WILL WAS WHICH WAS TO KEEP THE DISTRICT TOGETHER AND CREATE A TRANSITION THAT IS A CONTRACT FOR THE CITY TO PROVIDE SERVICES. MY ONLY CONCERN IS, AGAIN IT'S ALL HEARSAY, BECAUSE I HAD A REPORTER TELL ME MORE THIS MORNING IS THAT IT SEEMS THAT THEY HAVE, THE CITY MANAGER HAS ARTICULATED THAT IF WE DON'T ACCEPT THESE TERMS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO WITHDRAW, STILL. IF WE ACCEPT THIS FEBRUARY DEADLINE AS SOME EFFECTIVE DATE OF TRANSITION. AND I WANT TO BE ON THE RECORD TO SAY, THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS IS. WHAT THIS IS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT JANUARY 18 DATE THAT YOU PROPOSE TO WITHDRAW IS NOW FEBRUARY 17. WHATEVER IT IS. AND, NOTHING ELSE CHANGES. IT IS YOUR DECISION TO WITHDRAW IS FROM HERE TO HERE AND THERE IS STILL WAY TOO MUCH FOR US TO TALK ABOUT SO PLEASE DO NOT INTERPRET THIS, CITY MANAGER, AS WE AGREE WITH THE TRANSITION HAPPENING ON THAT DAY. THE ONLY THING WE AGREE IS THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND FROM JANUARY 18 TO FEBRUARY 18 ON WHEN YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW. IS THAT FAIR? >> I THINK THE MOTION IS TO CONTINUE NEGOTIATIONS AND EXTEND THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATION WITH NOBODY COMMITTING TO ANYTHING THEM OR US AND WE HAVE MORE TIME TO NEGOTIATE. >> YOU AND I AGREE BUT HIS VIDEO HE PUT OUT DOES NOT SAY THAT. THAT IS MY CONCERN. >> COUNSEL CHANGED IT. WELL, I DON'T WANT TO COMMENT ON HIS VIDEO. [00:15:01] I WATCH THE ENTIRE VIDEO BUT ALL I KNOW IS I GO ON WHAT COUNCIL ACTION IS AND WHAT COURT ACTION IS. COUNCIL ACTION WAS LAST NIGHT WAS TO VOTE TO EXTEND TO SIMPLY NEGOTIATE WITH NO COMMITMENT FROM THEM AND NO COMMITMENT FROM US ON ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE EXTENSION. >> JENNY, I WANT TO BELIEVE EVERYTHING HE JUST SAID, IS THAT RIGHT BECAUSE IF SO THAT'S GOOD? >> HE WAS LEAVING THE COURTHOUSE TO TELL ME WHAT THAT'S WHAT HE DID. >> I FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT IF THAT IS WHAT YOU CAN TELL THE COURTS. >> THAT IS WHAT MARTINEZ TOLD ME LAST NIGHT. >> I WILL DO SUBJECT TO. HOW IS THAT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> THERE IS A LOT OF IF'S AND'S AND BUTTS IN THEIR BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS MAYBE YOU CAN ROLLBACK THE TAPE BUT OF COURSE THAT MAGIC LANGUAGE IS THAT RESERVATION OF RIGHTS AND SUBJECT TO IT BEING AS WE SAID A LITTLE BIT OF A 30 DAY CHANGE. OKAY, THERE IS AN OTHER BEFORE WE GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION, THERE IS ANOTHER PIECE OF THIS TIE THAT HAS TO DO PIE, THAT HAS TO DO WITH, WELL, IT'S NOT A PIECE OF PIE IT'S A PIECE OF [3. Discuss and consider emergency letter request from Board of Judges (District and County Court at Law) regarding ARPA premium pay allocation for county employees.] PIE IN THE AGENDA. IT HAS TO DO WITH ARPA PREMIUM PAY ALLOCATION FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND THAT WE WILL DISCUSS IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION IS ITEM NUMBER THREE AND I JUST WANTED TO LAY IT OUT HERE FOR THE PUBLIC SO IF YOU ARE A COUNTY EMPLOYEE YOU MAY SAY WHAT THE HECK IS THIS? I WANT TO LAY THIS OUT A LITTLE BIT. DID EVERYONE RECEIVE A COPY OF THE LETTER FROM THEBOARD OF JUDGES ? IF NOT, LET'S PAUSE, OKAY NO. >> I MIGHT HAVE BUT I THOUGHT THIS WAS ALL WE WERE DOING SO I DID NOT PULL IT UP. >> THIS WAS AN EMERGENCY ACTIO . LET ME DEAL WITH IN EXECUTIVE SESSION SO WE CAN GET CAUGHT UP AND IT WILL BE OUR WILL OR CHOICE TO BRING IT BACK UP AGAIN. >> NONE OF US PROBABLY SAW IT UNTIL LATE EVENING. I WANT TO TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL WE REALLY GET TO LOOK AT HER AND DISCUSS EVERYTHING. >> WE WILL GET A CHANCE TO DO THAT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. I DON'T WANT TO TABLE AN EMERGENCY ACTION WITHOUT AT LEAST DISCUSSING IT. THAT'S WHAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT. >> CAN SOMEONE SIMILAR LETTER. >> WHY DO WE DO IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION THEN. >> IS IT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM? >> YES, IT IS. IT HAS TO DO WITH THE COURTS DECISION TO CLOSE THE COURTHOUSE FOR TRIALS FOR THREE WEEKS AND HOW THAT LEGALLY AFFECTS THEIR EMPLOYEES AS IT APPLIES TO PREMIUM PAY BECAUSE OF THE LEGALITY OR ELIGIBILITY OFPREMIUM PAY AS IT APPLIES TO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT WORKING IN THE COURTHOUSE . OR AT THEIR JOB, I SHOULD SAY, NOT ALL JOBS IN THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE ARE IN THE COURTHOUSE. SO WE SEE THIS FROM THE BOARD OF JUDGES IT HAS A FORMAL RESOLUTION. IT IS A TIMELY SITUATION BECAUSE THE FACT IS IT IS A WEDNESDAY TODAY SO THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING, THE 10TH, 11TH AND 12TH FROM THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE THE PREVIOUS FRIDAY. TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE SO THEY CAN FORM THEIR EMPLOYEES INFORMED THEIR EMPLOYEES OF WHAT THE STATUS IS. LET ME EXPLAIN FURTHER IN EXECUTIVE SESSION BUT THE NATURE OF THE EMERGENCY IS THE LEGALITY OF ELIGIBILITY FOR ARPA AND PREMIUM PAY FOR THOSE NOT WORKING AT THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE. IT IS ALSO THE STATUS OF OUR BOARD OF JUDGES TO CANCEL TRIALS THREE WEEKS DUE TO THE SEARCH WHICH WE SUPPORT IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. AND, HOW DOES TO RELATE TO THE COURTS DIRECTIVE ON THE 10 PERCENT PREMIUM PAY. >> WE HAVE A RECOMMENDED TODAY AND HAVE PREVENTED ALL THAT THROUGH THEM? >> HERE IS NUMBER ONE ON HAGGERTY WELL, JOHNSON WAS A N . I DON'T THINK THE AUDITOR HAS HAD A CHANCE TO DISCUSS THIS. THAT'S THE POINT OF BEING ABLE TO. >> ACTUALLY, WE HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY WE LOOKED INTO THIS AND SHE RECOMMENDED AS WELL TO HAVE FURTHER ANALYSIS BEFORE MAKING A DECISION ABOUT THIS. >> THERE IS NO DECISIONS, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO READ THE ACCEPTANCE OF THIS LETTER AND [00:20:06] UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ISSUE IS SO YOU CAN GIVE DIRECTIVE. >> SO WE CAN GIVE DIRECTIVE. >> I WOULD NOT TABLE IT UNTIL YOU HEAR WHITE THE JUDGES WANT TO. >> BECAUSE OF THE EXECUTIVE. >> LET'S HAVE THE EXECUTIVE DISCUSSION AND THEN WE CAN TABLE IT. I DON'T THINK A DECISION HAS TO BE MADE TODAY BUT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE REMEDY MIGHT BE FOR THE JUDGES. >> IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT IS TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION I AM GOOD WITH THAT. OBVIOUSLY, CERTAINLY COMING FROM HAGGERTY JOHNSON I DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE A DECISION TODAY. >> I DON'T THINK THE JUDGES NEED THAT I THINK THEY NEED US TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE DIRECTIVES TO THEIR EMPLOYEES. WELL GOSH, IT'S A LIMITED MENU TODAY AND IT'S GOING TO BE BASICALLY HEALTH IN THIS ONE ISSUE WITH ARPA. SO, IF YOU WILL GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND I DO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE SOME RESOURCES IN THE ROOM AND BEFORE I GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THEM. FIRST, EVEN THOUGH YOU MET HIM LAST TIME AND THIS IS HOW WE HAVE BEEN BURNING THE MIDNIGHT OIL I THINK IT'S LIKE THE THIRD TIME I'VE HAVE SEEN THIS WEEK BUT PLEASE RECOGNIZE LOUIS RAY OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR. ONCE YOU GET TO SEE HIM A LOT OF TIMES HE WILL BE A FIXTURE INTHAT IS DOING. HE IS YOUR NEW EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATED IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM.ALSO WITH THIS IS ASSISTANT HEALTH DIRECTOR FROM THE COUNTY LEWIS WILL NOT HE IS HERE TO BE A RESOURCE AS WE GET INTO SOME DISCUSSIONS THAT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT OR IMPACTFUL. JUST KNOW HE IS HERE TO HELP PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION. I MYSELF ASKED HIM TO COMMENT BECAUSE I AM STILL SCRATCHING MY HEAD ON THIS 1115 WAIVER AND I WANT HIM TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND ITS SEPARATION, RIGHT? I KNOW IN THE PAST HAS BEEN SEPARATED SO I AM ANXIOUS TO HEAR ABOUT THAT AND THEN ALSO RECOGNIZING CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING. CITY OF ROB'S TOWN. WITH THAT, LET ME SAY THE MAGIC LANGUAGE AND I'LL ASK EVERYONE IF YOU'RE VISITING OUT OF JURISDICTION FEEL FREE TO USE [3. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.] MY OFFICE TO BE COMFORTABLE WHILE THE COURT MAINTAINS THIS EXECUTIVE SESSION. I'M GIVING NOTICE AT THIS TIME THAT WE ARE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION WE ARE AUTHORIZED TO SO UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF THEIR DAY MEETINGS ACT UNDER THE LAW OF TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. WE ALSO DO THIS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY OF THE VERDANT TEXAS CODE SECTIONS 5510710727347457686 AND 87. THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL HOLD IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH THEIR ATTORNEY INCLUDING MATTERS RELATED TO LITIGATION, REAL PROPERTY, GIFTS, PERSONNEL, TERMINATION, COUNTY ADVISOR BATTERY, SECURITY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR ANY OTHER MATTER THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION PARTICULARLY THE ONES WE NOTICED HERE TODAY. UPON COMPLETION OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WE WILL COME BACK INTO OPEN SESSION AS A COMMISSIONERS COURT AND TO TAKE ANY ACTION AS APPROPRIATE ON ITEMS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. THE TIME FOR THE CLERK IS 9:01 AM. WE WILL CLEAR THE COURTROOM, WE WILL TAKE DOWN THE MICROPHONES OFF THE VIDEO FOR THE GET HOME WE WILL COME BACK SHORTLY AND FOR THE CLERK GIVE US A LITTLE BIT WE WILL TEXT YOU >> OKAY WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AND IT IS ABOUT 8 PM. [B. Consult with County Attorney regarding legal issues related to emergency letter request from Board of Judges (District and County Court at Law) regarding ARPA premium pay allocation for county employees.] THERE IS SEVERAL ITEMS WE DISCUSSED. I WILL TAKE THEM IN REVERSE ORDER. THERE WAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BEFORE HE WENT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, I'M SORRY ITEM 2A3 ON THE REGULAR AGENDA THAT'S DISCUSSING THE EMERGENCY LETTER BY THE BOARD OF JUDGES FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND WE WERE ABLE TO CAN INDICATE WITH THE JUDGE AND IS FINE WITH US AND TABLING IT. SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THE MATTER AND THIS WILL BE AN IMPORTANT MATTER TO CONTINUE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE CERTAIN THEY PAY THAT THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED TO RECEIVE IS THAT NOT ONLY COHORTS WITH THE ABSOLUTELY LAW BUT ALSO WITH THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO WHICH IS TO PROVIDE PREMIUM PAY FOR OUR [00:25:03] EMPLOYEES FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. I THINK WE HAVE SOME WORK TO DO ON THAT. I THINK IT WAS A MOTION IN A SECOND. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE AND I DID NOT RECEIVE THE LETTER SO IF THERE IS A LETTER PLEASE PROVIDE IT. >> I DID NOT GET TO ADD THERE WAS A LETTER GIVEN TO ME BUT HE WANTS TO FINE-TUNE IT SO HE WILL REMODEL IT AND GET BACK TO US. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. TABLE THIS TO THE NEXT COURT DATE, REGULAR COURT DATE. AND, THE NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSE . I AM SO SORRY ALL THOSE IN [A. Consult with County Attorney regarding legal matters and County options related to the City of Corpus Christi's expressed withdrawal from the Corpus Christi-Nueces County Public Health District (CCNCPHD), and continued provision of Public Health Services by the County, and related matters.] FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> THE NEXT ONE IS ITEM NUMBER, WE REALLY TOOK CARE OF THE ITEM NUMBER TWO WHICH IS THE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADOPTING RESPONSE OUTCOME AND IT SO I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE DONE THAT. NOW, I MOVED TO ITEM NUMBER ONE DISCUSSING THE THIRD AMENDMENT TO THE REFORMED COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI REGARDING AN EXTENSION. WAIT A SECOND, IS BACKWARDS. WAS I BACKWARDS? >> I THINK THAT IS RIGHT, THE RESPONSE WAS NUMBER TWO. YOU ARE RIGHT. >> I AM SORRY LET ME GO BACKWARDS FOR THE RECORD. THE FIRST ONE EXPRESSED WITHDRAWAL AND THE DATE. WE ALREADY DEALT WITH THAT AND NOW I AM DISCUSSING AND RESPONDING TO THEOUTCOME OF THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI COUNCIL MEETING . THEY ARE BOTH REALLY INTERACTIVE THE WAY IT IS WORDED IS VERY CONFUSING. BUT LOOK, I THINK WE UNDERSTAND WHEN IT COMES TO THE DATE THE COURT HAS AGREED THAT WE KICK FEBRUARY, WE KICK JANUARY 18 OUT AND REPLACE IT WITH FEBRUARY 17 IN AND WE DO SO WITH PRESERVING ALL RIGHTS. I THINK WE ALREADY VOTED ON THAT. NOW, WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT ITSELF THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR WEEKS AND IT IS CALLED THE THIRD AMENDMENT TO THE REFORMED COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT TO OPERATE PUBLIC HEALTH DISTRICT. IT STILL IN DRAFT FORM AND THE COURT HAS A MOTION TO DIRECT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO MAKE SOME CHANGES AND GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. >> THANK YOU, OF THE COMMOTION MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CHANGES AS DIRECTED BY THE COURT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY GONZALES AND I WILL CALL FOR DISCUSSION. >> JUST BRIEF, JUDGE. I WANT TO SAY IN GENERAL TERMS BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THESE HAVE TO BE CONTINUED TO BE NEGOTIATED IN THE BACK IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THAT'S NOT BECAUSE WERE NOT TRY TO BE TRANSPARENT BUT WHEN WE ARE NEGOTIATING WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON THOSE NEGOTIATIONS SO YOU DON'T GIVE AWAY YOUR POSITION FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM. THAT SAID, I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THESE CHANGES ARE NOT CHANGES THAT ARE SUPER SIGNIFICANT, THAT'S MY FEELING I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE REST OF THE COURTS FEELING, THAT IS MY FEELING IT'S NOT SUPER SIGNIFICANT AND THAT THE CITY SHOULD LOOK AT THESE AS REASONABLE SUGGESTIONS AND SOME OF THEM ARE SIMPLE CLARIFICATIONS AND SO FORTH. I THINK THEY WILL BE LOOKED UPON STILL WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE ORIGINAL MOTION WHICH WAS THAT THIS COURT VOTE ON IT TO GIVE TOTAL CONTROL OF THE HEALTH DISTRICT TO THE CITY AND THAT THE COUNTY WILL REMAIN IN THE HEALTH DISTRICT AS A NONVOTING MEMBER, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM. THAT'S NOT EXACTLY THE WAY OF SAYING IT BUT THAT'S WHY I SAY IT. THAT IS MY DISCUSSION. THERE WAS A LENGTHY DISCUSSION WE WENT THROUGH IT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY I THINK SHE IS A GOOD FEELING OF WHAT THE CONSENSUS OF THE COURT WANTS TO DO IN REGARDS TO THIS. I THINK IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO REFLECT THIS IS A WORKING DOCUMENT, IT IS A DRAFT, IT'S NOT A FINAL PIECE OF WORK BECAUSE UNTIL WE NEGOTIATE THE FINAL POINTS YOU CAN'T GET TO THAT. WE HAVE DONE THIS PROCESS IN A MANNER IT WAS DICTATED IN REGARDS TO WHEN WE GOT NOTICE AND WORKED ON IT.E SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON IT. I REMEMBER THIS COURT AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND STAFF WORKED REALLY HARD ON THIS. FROM THE COUNTY SIDE TO GET IT TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE AT. DO I HOPE WE CAN GET IT DONE BY THE 17TH? I DO. DO I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE? I DO. IT WILL BE DEPENDENT ON WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES BECAUSE I DID NOT GET A FEEL YESTERDAY FOR WHERE THE COUNCIL STANDS ON THE WHOLE THING. BECAUSE THE ONLY VOTED TO EXTEND WHICH I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT THEY ALSO FELT LIKE THEY NEEDED MORE TIME TO DIGEST IT JUST LIKE WE DID A WEEK AGO WHEN WE POSTPONED THIS MEETING. I THINK THAT'S ALSO A REASONABLE REQUEST. TO CONTINUE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE SEND THIS BACK WITH DIRECTION TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SO THE CITY KNOWS WE ARE IN AGREEMENT IN A GENERAL CONCEPT AND WE CONTINUE TO BEAT WE JUST HAVE SOME CHANGES WE ARE REQUESTING THAT I DON'T [00:30:01] THINK IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM IS A DIFFICULT TO DO. >> WANTED CLARIFICATION, THE SHORT DOCUMENT RECEIVED TODAY IS THE THIRD A MINUTE WHICH IS THE EXTENSION. THE DOCUMENT I WILL BE PREPARING OR AMENDING WILL THEN BE THE FOURTH AMENDMENT. >> CORRECT. >> I SAID THIRD THAT IS CORRECT. IT IS BE REFORMED TO THE FOURTH. TO COOPERATE. >> IT WOULD BE FORTHCOMING DEPENDING ON THE CITY'S RESPONSE. > ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING. >> I DO. >> GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU JENNY FOR THE WORK YOU ARE DOING. AT THE END OF THE DAY WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE TRYING TO SERVE EVERYONE IN THIS COMMUNITY. EVERYBODY IN THE EASTERN AREA WE JUST NEED TO COME TO THE TABLE AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE PERMISSION TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES WE HAVE IN PROVIDING. EVEN BETTER, IF WE CAN. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING KEEPING THAT IN MIN . AND ALSO MOVING FORWARD AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN COME UP. AT THE END OF THE DAY IT WAS A GOOD PROJECT HERE, A GOOD DOCUMENT. THANK YOU. >> JENNY, I WANT TO THANK YOU AS WELL. I KNOW YOU WORK VERY HARD. I KNOW YOU PUT SOME TIME INTO IT. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK. >> I WANT TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW WE ARE TAKING EVERY POINT THAT HAS BEEN MADE AND COUNTER MADE BETWEEN US AND THE CITY TO HEART. WE KNOW WHATEVER DECISION WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IMPACTS EMPLOYEES, INDEX OF THE SERVICES PROVIDED, IMPACTS PUBLIC HEALTH.SO, THERE IS GOING TO BE BACK-AND-FORTH ON THAT. I HOPE WE ARE MOVING EVERY DAY CLOSER TO A FINAL AGREEMENT. BUT, THIS IS STILL SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK AND FORTH ON MAJOR ISSUES THAT WE MAY NOT AGREE WITH, TOTALLY. I HOPE THAT WE CAN FIND COMPROMISE WEDNESDAY AND I HOPE ONE DAY, I HOPE THERE ARE QUESTIONS BEING ASKED THAT ARE BEING REQUIRED TO BE ASKED IN A CLOSED SESSION. I BELIEVED THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WE WILL SHOW THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE CONCERNED THAT THE NEEDS ARE BEING MET IN THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND THE BALANCE OF WHAT THEY FEEL THEY ARE PUTTING IN FINANCIALLY. BUT ALSO, THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE PUT ON US BY THE STATE AS A COUNTY HAVE RESPONSE TO LEASE TO THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND TO ESPECIALLY THOSE IN THE RURAL AREAS OF THE COUNTY WHO ARE TRADITIONALLY UNDERSERVED BY SERVICES.THAT IS A REAL CONCERN TO ME AND I BELIEVE IT IS TO THE COURT. I THINK AS WE GET CLOSER WE WILL FIND A SOLUTION BUT THIS IS BY NO WAY IN AND OR ANY KIND OF AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE FOUND EVERY POINT TO BE IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE CITY. I THINK THERE IS STILL A LOT TO GO BACK AND FORTH AND I HOPE THE CITY TAKES THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND UNDERSTANDS THERE WILL STILL BE SOME PLENTY OF BACK-AND-FORTH AND UNTIL EVERY SINGLE ISSUE IS RESOLVED I THINK WE OWE IT TO THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND BOTH BODIES TO BE ABLE TO DECIDE AND THEN CONTINUE THROUGH OUR ATTORNEYS TO FIND A SOLUTION. WE ARE LOOKING, WE ARE ADVOCATING, WE ARE MAKING SURE ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT AREAS ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED AND ADDRESSED ADEQUATELY AND RESPONSIBLY. THANK YOU. >> SO, I THINK THOSE ARE GOOD COMMENTS FROM THE WHOLE COURT THAT YOU JUST HEARD. AND, MY FOLLOWING COMMENTS ARE AS FOLLOWS.FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I APPRECIATE HOW THE COURT REALLY TRIES AND YOU DON'T GET A CHANCE TO SEE THIS BUT AT LEAST THE MAJORITY OF THE COURT TRIES, BEHIND THE SCENES, PARTICULARLY AS WE TALK TO OUR LAWYERS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND CREATE THESE NEGOTIATION DISCUSSIONS TO ASK THE QUESTIONS, WHY DO YOU FEEL THIS WAY? HOW CAN WE MAYBE COME UP WITH SOME COMPROMISE LANGUAGE? THE LAST TWO SESSIONS, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HASN'T DONE THAT AND DONE IT TWICE IN EMOTIONS. I AM ACKNOWLEDGING THAT. [00:35:01] IT'S APPRECIATED. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY. AND THAT IS OKAY. THAT IS PART OF DEMOCRACY AND AS PART OF THE PROCESS. AND, THE REASON I SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY IS BECAUSE I HAVE, LIKE EACH OF US HERE, A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE IN A DIFFERENT LENS TO THIS SCENARIO. I AM TRULY AFFECTED IN A SERIOUS WAY BECAUSE OF THIS PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH FOR TWO AND HALF YEARS. MY OFFICE, BOTH AS A COUNTY JUDGE FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE POINT OF VIEW, FROM A MITRAL RATE CARE, AS WELL AS MY ROLE IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HAS ALLOWED ME TO WORK HAND-IN-HAND WITH PUBLIC HEALTH SINCE BEFORE JANUARY 24TH, 2020. BECAUSE OF THAT SPECIAL AND UNIQUE RELATIONSHIP I BELIEVE THE DOCUMENT WE ARE WORKING ON IS THE MOST IMPORTANT DOCUMENT FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS, IN PARTICULAR, AS WE TRY TO CONTINUE TO BATTLE THIS PARTICULAR VIRUS WHICH HAS CAUSED US THIS PARTICULAR HEALTH EMERGENCY. SOME OF THE CHANGES HAS BEEN CHARACTERIZED AS KEEPING WITH THE FRAMEWORK OF THE SPIRIT AND THEY DON'T SEEM TOO MONUMENTAL TO SOME AND TO OTHERS THEY SEEM AT LEAST MATERIAL. WHAT I WANT TO TELL YOU AND TELL THOSE VIEWING AUDIENCE IS THAT IT MATTERS TO ME EVERY AND, THEN AND BUT, EVERY PERIOD, EVERY APOSTROPHE AND EVERY, IS SIGNIFICANT. WHILE I DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO GRANT THE CONCEPT OF KEEPING ALL OF THEIR JOBS, I WISH I DID. I WISH TO GOD I DID BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE OUGHT TO BE WORKING TOWARDS IN THIS PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY. HIS KEEPING THOSE PEOPLE THERE THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING DAY IN AND DAY OUT WORKING FOR YOU. ANY DOCUMENT THAT DOES NOT GIVE THAT US SURETY IS NOT A DOCUMENT I CAN SUPPORT IN MY HEART. THAT SAME WITH GRANTS. THE GRANTS WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN THAT WE WORKED SO HARD TO PROCURE OVER THE LAST TWO AND HALF YEARS ARE ONES THAT SHOULD BE CHERISHED, VALUED AND, QUITE RIGHTLY, STRENGTHENS. THESE SERVICES, WE HAVE NOW COME TO UNDERSTAND WE NEED MORE THAN, NOT LESS THAN. ON A VISIT THE CITY AND COUNTY IN MY MIND AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY. IT IS NOT ABOUT DOING WHAT WE CAN IT'S ABOUT DOING MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME SPECIFICS THAT REMAIN AND WE CAN AGREE AS A COURT THAT THE FRAMEWORK ADDRESSES THOSE SPECIFICS AND WE HAVE DIRECTED THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO STRENGTHEN THE LANGUAGE AND SO YOU MIGHT SAY, WHY WILL YOU VOTE NO HERE MOMENTARILY? I VOTE NO, NOT BECAUSE I DON'T APPRECIATE WHAT HAS BEEN DONE OVER THE LAST FEW HOURS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS IN ORDER TO GET A BETTER FRAMEWORK TO DIRECT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO GO AND REPRESENT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, I VOTE NO BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS TOO MUCH MISSING, STILL. TOO MUCH THAT IS NOT ADDRESSED. THE SPECIFICS MATTER. THE GRANTS AND THE PEOPLE MATTER AND WHILE WE HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB OF CREATING SOME FRAMEWORK THIS RUSHED PROCESS DOES NOT SERVE OUR PUBLIC AND IT DOES NOT SERVE PUBLIC HEALTH. I CAN TELL YOU THIS, THAT ALL OF US HERE SERVE PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE SUPER VULNERABLE. THERE IS NOT ONE OF US THAT DOESN'T HAVE IT VULNERABLE COMMUNITY. SOME OF US REPRESENT AREAS THAT ARE MORE VULNERABLE THAN OTHERS ON ALL THE MAJOR HEALTH CARE INDEXES. THOSE NEED TO BE CARED FOR IN A VERY PARTICULAR MANNER. SO, AGAIN, WHAT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY SAYS, I ENDORSE, IN THAT RESPECT THAT WE ARE NOT DONE. WE BELIEVE THERE IS A FRAMEWORK HERE THAT CAN PROVIDE A GOOD BLUEPRINT BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC IS SERVED BY THE LACK OF SPECIFICITY AND THE LACK OF GUIDANCE ON SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT, PARTICULARLY, AGAIN, THE GRANTS, THE LAB AND OF THE EMPLOYEES. AND I THINK THAT WE WILL WORK HARD TO GET US TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN SAY THIS AGREEMENT IS GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC. [00:40:06] AND I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY HERE IS COMMITTED TO THAT. I WISH AND I'M GOING TO CALL FOR MORE DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE PARTIES. A COUNTY ATTORNEY THAT IS WORKING FOR THE COMMISSIONERS COURT IS A GOOD THING BUT IT'S EVEN BETTER WHEN PUBLIC HEALTH IS ADDRESSING A PUBLIC HEALTH DOCUMENT. AND, THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE. I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO SUGGEST THAT THE JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE AFFECTED NEED TO BE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE. IT'S ALMOST LIKE TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE WHEN THEY ARE STANDING RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, SUFFERING. AND IGNORING THEM. I DO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING ALL THE THINGS WE ARE DOING THIS WEEK AND NEXT WEEK ALL THE WAY UP TO THE STATE, THIS NEW DATE WE CREATED. I ALSO WANT THE CITY TO RECONSIDER THEIR POSITION ON WITHDRAWAL. WITHDRAWAL DISSOLVES THE DISTRICT. IT'S NOT GOOD FOR ANY OF US. SO I AM ASKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO TERMS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE BETTER NEGOTIATIONS GOING FORWARD. TODAY'S FRAMEWORK AND EMOTION BEGINS THAT PROCESS. BUT AGAIN, I HAD TO REALLY THINK BEFORE WE CAME RIGHT BACK INTO COURT BECAUSE NOTHING WOULD PLEASE ME MORE THAN TO SEND THE SIGNAL TO ALL OF YOU LISTENING THAT I CAN SUPPORT THE WORK WE DO BEHIND CLOSED DOORS THE PAST FEW HOURS AND WHILE I BELIEVE MUCH OF IT REPRESENTS GUIDANCE THAT I PLAYED A CONTRIBUTING PART IN. OVERALL, THIS DOES NOT ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH AT THIS TIME DURING A PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY IN ITS ENTIRETY. IT HAS SOME OF IT BUT NOT ALL OF IT. I JUST CAN'T LOOK PEOPLE IN THE EYE AND SAY I'M FOR A DOCUMENT THAT IS NOT SPECIFIC ENOUGH AND DOES NOT CREATE ALL THE PROTECTIONS THAT OUR PEOPLE NEED. I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ALSO KEEP IN MIND WHAT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY SAID IN THE BEGINNING. I THINK YOU SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT THAT WE NOT THAT WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER BUT THAT'S HOW I TOOK IT. AND HE ALSO SAID SOMETHING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS THAT I THINK IT'S OKAY TO PARAPHRASE. WHICH IS THAT THERE MIGHT BE A PERCEPTION THAT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ARE NOT WORKING TOGETHER. THAT IS NOT THE CASE. THE CITY AND THE COUNTY WORK TOGETHER EVERY SINGLE DAY ON MAROTTA OF ISSUES. TONS OF ISSUES.PUBLIC HEALTH IS ONE OF THEM. WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT WHEN WE DISAGREE IN A PUBLIC FORMAT THAT IT'S GOOD. THAT IS WHAT IS REQUIRED. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A REAL PUBLIC WORKSHOP WITH EVERYBODY SO WE CAN LOOK EACH OTHER IN THE EYE AND SAY THAT WE ALL THINK THIS IS IN THE MAJORITY THE BEST WAY TO STRENGTHEN PUBLIC HEALTH FROM NUECES COUNTY. I BELIEVE THAT IS POSSIBLE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AND I'M GOING TO CALL ON THE CITY LEADERSHIP TO ACCEPT THAT CHALLENGE AND ASK THEM TO INVITE THEIR BRETHREN, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS, WE CAN POST THIS MEETING AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW THIS WOULD WORK. WE DO THIS FOR DRAINAGE. WE DO THIS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. WE DO THIS FOR THE PEER. WHY WOULD WE DO ANY LESS FOR PUBLIC HEALTH? I HOPE THAT THE SPIRIT OF IT TODAY GIVES YOU CONFIDENCE THAT WE WILL CREATE A TRANSITION IN IT THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. BUT PLEASE STOP TALKING WITHDRAWAL. BECAUSE IT'S LIKE TALKING DIVORCE. IT ONLY HURTS THE PEOPLE THAT YOU LOVE THE MOST. AND, WE LOVE SERVING NUECES COUNTY. SO, LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW WE WILL MAKE A DOCUMENT THAT GETS YOU EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED WHICH IS STRONGER PUBLIC HEALTH AND BETTER HEALTH OUTCOMES. AND THE RESPONSE THAT WE HAVE CREATED WHICH IS ONE OF THE STRONGEST IN TEXAS FOR COVID 1 . THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. >> MAY I MAKE ONE MORE JUDGE? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> NOT IN THE FORM OF ANY KIND OF ARGUMENT I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE YOUR COMMENTS COULD SET OUT A BELIEF THAT WE ARE NOT WORKING REALLY, REALLY HARD TO TAKE CARE OF THE EMPLOYEES . I DON'T THINK YOU MEANT TO DO THAT AND IF YOU DID I DEFINITELY WANT TO SAY THAT'S [00:45:02] NOT THE CASE BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU THAT HAS BEEN AREA PROBABLY THAT I HAVE SPENT THE MOST TIME ON AND I HAVE SPENT AT NAUSEA AMOUNT OF HOURS ON THIS TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS BEST AND I SAID ALL ALONG MAKING SURE THAT THE PUBLIC THAT WE SERVE IS FIRST AND FOREMOST BUT RIGHT BEHIND THAT IS MAKING SURE THAT THE EMPLOYEES THAT SERVE THEM ARE ALSO TAKEN CARE OF AND I BELIEVE THE CITY BELIEVES THAT, TOO. I BELIEVE WITHOUT GOING TOO FAR INTO IT THAT IS SOME OF THE SUGGESTED LANGUAGE CHANGE THAT WE ARE MAKING TO THE CITY. AGAIN, NOT TRYING TO GIVE AWAY POINTS BUT THE CITY HAS BEEN EXTREMELY RESPONSIVE EVERY TIME WE HAVE MADE SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO BETTER HELP EMPLOYEES. I BELIEVE THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE RESPONSIVE TO US AND THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT THIS COURT IS WORKING ON. SO, I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO LISTEN TO ANY OF THE COMMENTS THE EMPLOYEES LISTEN TO THE COMMENTS AND FEEL LIKE, OH MY GOSH, THEY ARE NOT TAKING CARE OF US. WE ARE WORKING REALLY HARD ON THIS AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WILL THAT HANG OUT THERE. BUT, I APPRECIATE THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT, JUDGE, EVEN WITH ACKNOWLEDGMENT I. SHOULD THE OPPORTUNITY YOU ARE HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE NOTE BASED ON YOUR BELIEFS. I DON'T SHARE EVERY ONE OF THEM JUST LIKE YOU DON'T SHARE EVERY ONE OF MINE. I DO BELIEVE THIS IS A POSITIVE STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION BY SUPPORTING THIS I BELIEVE, AND IT PUTS THE BALL BACK IN THE CITIES COURT, IF THEY DON'T THINK IT'S REASONABLE THAT WE HAVE TO GO IN A WHOLE DIFFEREN DIRECTION . BUT I'M GOING TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT IF EVERYONE TAKES THE PERSONALITIES OUT, THE DRUM OUT, THE RHETORIC OUT, AND WHAT'S BEST FOR THIS COMMUNITY IS FOR THE DISTRICT TO REMAIN INTACT AND FOR THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS I SAID THAT 100 TIMES, TOO. BUT THAT IS WHAT I BELIEVE STRONGLY AND THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE THIS MOTION TODAY SIGNIFIES AND I HOPE THAT IS HOW THE CITY WILL TAKE IT AND I HOPE THE CITY WILL CONTINUE IN THE WAY I THINK THEY HAVE WHICH IS TO TRY TO DO THE SAME THING TO WORK FOR THE BEST OF EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT. >> I MEAN, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT AGAIN, THIS IS A GOOD PROCESS. IT ALLOWS US ALL TO HAVE DIALOGUE BUT I WILL REITERATE IT AGAIN. WE NEED TO DO BETTER AND IN DOING BETTER WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION, A RESPONSIBILITY, TO MAKE SURE THE WORDS LIVE UP TO WHAT OUR SENTIMENT IS. I DO NOT QUESTION ANY OF US HERE WITH REGARDS TO OUR SENTIMENT TO PROVIDE STRONGER HEALTH FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THE CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT THERE IS NO GUARANTEES IN THE FRAMEWORK THAT I SEE HERE. AGAIN, A GUARANTEE IS A REALLY HARD THING TO COME BY THESE DAYS. NOT EVEN YOUR WASHING MACHINE COMES WITH A DARN GOOD WARRANTY ANYMORE. BUT, I WANT US TO VALUE THE CONCEPT THAT WE HAVE A LOT MORE WORK TO DO HERE SO THAT WE CAN GET TO THAT POINT THAT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY JUST ARTICULATED. THAT WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. BUT, I HAVE A HIGHER STANDARD THAN WORKING VERY HARD. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE OUTCOME IS THE RIGHT OUTCOME. IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW HARD YOU WORK. IT'S ABOUT WHAT RESULT YOU CAN PROVIDE. AND THAT IS WHY I WANT TO SEE PORN. THE CONTRACT ISN'T YET TO COME. THE FRAMEWORK GIVES AN IMPRESSION AND I CANNOT LOOK MYSELF IN THE MIRROR AND LOOK AT THIS DOCUMENT AND THINK THIS IS THE BEST WE CAN DO. BUT, WE HAVE GIVEN LOTS OF A GUIDANCE AND WE LIVE IT TO DIE ANOTHER DAY. THERE IS A LOT OF LANGUAGE HERE THAT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO GO BACK AND FORTH. SO I NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT MIGHT NO VOTE IS BECAUSE I DO NOT THINK THAT THIS IS THE BEST WE CAN DO. I AM CERTAIN THAT WE CAN DO BETTER AND I CHALLENGE ALL OF US IN BOTH SIDES, THE CITY AND COUNTY, TO GET A DOCUMENT THAT MORE ACCURATELY REFLECTS WHAT YOU SAY IF YOU BELIEVE IT AND YOU MEAN IT THEN IT RIGHT IT. WRITE IT DOWN WHAT THOSE SERVICES ARE GOING TO BE. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THE CLINIC. AND WHILE WE BOTH AGREE, AT LEAST CHESNEY AND I, THAT THE BEST DOCUMENT IS YET TO BE WRITTEN THIS FRAMEWORK TO GIVE AN IMPRESSION THAT THIS IS ALL THERE IS. I LEARNED A LONG TIME AGO YOU [00:50:02] DON'T CONTRACT FOR MARRIAGE YOU CONTRACT FOR DIVORCE. WE DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN THIS DOCUMENT IS TO BE A GOOD DOCUMENT WITH A GOOD FRAMEWORK THAT WE CAN COUNT ON FOR OUR FUTURE. NOT ONE THAT WE ARE ARGUING ABOUT 180 DAYS LATER BECAUSE WE DECIDED WE HAD AN OUT CLAUSE. THAT IS NOT THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE. SO, IF YOU BELIEVE IN A BETTER HEALTH OUTCOMES THAT SHOW IT BY WRITING IT AND BY DELIVERING A REAL PLAN THAT WE HAVE YET TO SEE.HAT IS WHY I VOTE NO BUT I THINK MY COURT THANK MY COURT FOR ALLOWING OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY HAVE A LOT OF GOOD GUIDANCE HERE AND WE WILL SEE WHERE WE ARE. WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING VERY SOON AND AGAIN I AM CALLING RIGHT NOW ON ALL JURISDICTIONS TO COME FORWARD AND MEET. WE MEET FOR EVERYTHING ELSE PUBLIC HEALTH DEMANDS THAT WE MEET AGAIN WITHIN JURISDICTIONS TO DECIDE IF THIS DOCUMENT THAT WE PREPARE FOR OUR FUTURE IS GOOD ENOUGH. WITH THAT, WE WILL GET ON WITH THE BUSINESS OF THE VOTE AND WE WILL STAND READY TO SEE YOU GUYS. WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING ON FRIDAY. THE QUICK MEETING. >> JENNY, WHEN SHE GET THE RESPONSE BECKY WAS CIRCULATED TO US. WE APPRECIATE YOU CONTINUE TO DO THAT. >> WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING ON FRIDAY THAT DOES NOT HAVE TO DO WITH HEALTH IT HAS TO DO WITH OUR REDISTRICTING PROCESS SO WE WILL SEE YOU GUYS HEAR BACK ON FRIDAY MORNING. IT SHOULD NOT BE A TREMENDOUSLY LONG MEETING BUT IT WILL BE POSTED AT 9:30 AM. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAINT AYE. >> AYE. >> NO. I WILL ASK IF THERE IS ANY OTHER BUSINESS. WE DO NOT POST ADJOURNMENTS AND MEMORY TODAY, WE DID. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY? OKAY, IN THAT CASE WITH NO ADJOURNMENTS AND MEMORY IT'S 12:37 PM AND WE WILL STAND * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.