[1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:23] WE ARE STARTING LATE WE HAD A PRESSING MATTER. WHEN OUR PARTNERS. GOOD NEWS TO REPORT THAT IT WAS THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI IT IS GREAT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION FIRST THING IN THE MORNING WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER. IF YOU ARE 30 MINUTES LATE. YOU NEED A GOOD REASON. I FEEL LIKE A GOOD START TO A GOOD DAY NOW. THANK YOU FOR THE INDULGENCE AND THAT IS AS THEY SAY THE [A. County Judge calls for the Invocation.] ADDED VALUE. >>> GOOD MORNING I CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND ASK THAT YOU RISE FOR INVOCATION. REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE AND TO OUR TEXAS FLAGS. >>> COMMISSIONER GONZALES WOULD YOU SAY INVOCATION? >> LET US PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER WE COME WITH YOU JUST TO ASK YOU TO HEAR US AND CONTINUE TO GIVE US THE WILL, THE POWER TO LISTEN TO EACH OTHER, UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER. WE ASK YOU ANYTHING THAT YOU GIVE US THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU PROVIDED THE COURT AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. WE ASK YOU TO GO TO THE TABLE AND HELP US GO TO THE TABLE AND WORK THINGS OUT AND THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY. WE GIVE YOU THANKS, LORD, YOU HAVE MADE US WHAT WE ARE AND THANK YOU FOR GUIDANCE AND BEING WITH US IN YOUR TIME OF NEED. PRAY FOR THE FAMILY AND PRAY FOR OUR FAMILIES, PRAY FOR THE COUNTY FAMILIES. THOSE THAT ARE SICK AND THEY CAN RECOVER N YOUR NAME, LORD. [B. Pledge of Allegiance to the United States of America and Texas Flags.] >>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG; I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVI. >>> NOVEMBER 3RD. [C. County Judge will call roll, note date, time, and location of meeting, and certify a quorum is present.] WE DID START FOR THE CLERK RIGHT AT 9:00 THIS MORNING. WE ARE THE THIRD FLOOR COMMISSIONER'S COURTROOM. I CERTIFY COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ IS ON VIDEO. HE IS PRESENT AS WELL AS COMMISSIONER MAREZ AND BRENT CHESNEY ARE HERE. WE ARE ALL IN ATTENDANCE A QUORUM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ IS ON [D. SAFETY BRIEFING] VIRTUAL AS WELL. AT THIS TIME I MOVE ON TO THE SAFETY BRIEFING AND ASK TIMOTHY TO PROVIDE COMMENT. >>> GOOD MORNING WE'RE MEETING HERE THE THIRD FLOOR OF THE NUECES COURTHOUSE AT 901 LEOPARD STREET. RESTROOMS ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE ATRIUM PAST THE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICER. THERE IS A FIRE EXTINGUISHER AT THE REAR OF THE COURTROOM. THERE ARE SIX ON THE THIRD FLOOR. THE NEAREST CLOSEST TO YOU. IN THE EVENT OF A CARDIAC EMERGENCY, THERE IS AN AED ON THE RIGHT WALL NEXT TO THE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE. PARTICIPANTS WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DIALING 911 IS CONNIE. PARTICIPANTS THAT ARE CPR CERTIFIED ARE MYSELF. REMEMBER. ANYONE CAN RENDER AID. IN THE EVENT OF EVACUATION THE EGRESS DOWN THE THIRD FLOOR STAIRS, OUT THE DOORS AND ACROSS LPONCE STREET. SHOULD THERE BE A NEED TO SHELTER IN PLACE THE SEVERITY, THE COURTROOM DOUBLE DOORS WILL BE SECURED AND REMAIN SECURED UNTIL GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE NU NUECES COUNTY SHERIFF OR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. THE TOPICS TODAY REMINDER THIS WEEKEND DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME AND FALLING AN HOUR BACK. [00:05:01] ONE HOUR. REMEMBER TO CHECK YOUR BATTERIES IN YOUR FIRE ALARMS AND CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTORS IN THE HOME. THAT CONCLUDES THE SAFETY [E. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.] BRIEF. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>> I MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND NOTICE THAT I HAVE A NICE SLATE HERE BUT ONLINE DON'T FORGET IF YOU WISH TO MAKE COMMENT USE THE VIRTUAL ICON OF A HAND AND LET US KNOW IF WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. AT THIS TIME I'LL START WITH JJ. >> THE COURT RECOGNIZES OUR VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER. >> JUDGE FOR THE RECORD THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING COMING UP AND PEOPLE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT AS WELL TO LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THAT AS WELL. >> THIS IS THE PUBLIC COMMENT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A DISTINCTION, THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE HAVE HERE. I THINK THE ONCE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK DURING THE HEARING DID SIGN UP THAT THEY WOULD HAVE NOTED PUBLIC HEARING. >> I SAW YOU EARLIER. ARE YOU HEAR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING OR THE COMMENT. IS THAT OKAY IF I ADD THAT ON HERE? JJ PLEASE PROCEED. >> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. I WANTED TO IDENTIFY THE COURT AND THE COMMUNITY OF THE VETERAN'S DAY CEREMONIES WE HAVE THIS WEEK. THE FIRST THE VETERAN'S CEREMONY. WE WILL BE PLACING FLAGS AROUND THE PERIMETER. ALL ARE WELCOME TO ATTEND. WE WILL DO THAT ON WEDNESDAY, N. CAN YOU SHOW UP AT 5:30 AND ALL ARE WELCOME. WE WILL NOT HAVE A CEREMONY AT THE CEMETERY. THE SECOND THE VFW, 8932 IN FLOWER BLUFF. WE WILL HAVE A MARINE CORPS BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION. THAT IS 6 P.M. IT IS IN CORPUS CHRISTI, 78418. ALL ARE WELCOME TO ATTEND. THE THIRD IS A VETERAN'S DAY CEREMONY ON THE 11TH, NOVEMBER H AT BEN GARZA GYM. THE SPONSOR THE CORPUS CHRISTI MAYOR'S COMMITTEE FOR VETERAN'S AFFAIRS AND HOSTING UNIT THE 82D AIRBORNE ASSOCIATION. AFTER THAT, THE USS LEXINGTON WILL HAVE A SALUTE CEREMONY AT 2 P.M. AGAIN, ALL ARE WELCOME TO ATTEND THAT AS WELL. FINALLY ON VETERAN'S DAY WE WILL HAVE THE BAND OF HONOR AND A CEREMONY FROM 4:30 TO 5:30 P.M. AS TILT CONCLUDES POSTING 1000 FLAGS TO HONOR VETERANS LIVING AND DECEASED. %-ÚE WEEKS FROM THE 11TH THROUGH DEC. SPOONSORED MAY KEEP THEIR FLAGS. THE FLAGGINGS THAT ARE NOT PICKED UP WILL BE RETIRED AT THE VETERAN'S CEMETERY FLAG RETIREMENT AREA. AS AN FYI WE HAVE THREE VOLUNTEER PORK PARTIES FOR THE FIELD OF HONOR AND THAT'S AT THE RICHARD BORCHER FAIRGROUNDS STARTING TODAY UP UNTIL THIS UPCOMING FRIDAY. WE WILL BE SETTING REBAR THAT WILL HANKER THE FLAG -- ANCHOR THE FLAG POLES. THE HOMELESS VETERAN'S STANSTANDDOWN BETWEEN NUECES AND THE CORPUS CHRISTI COMMITTEE FOR VETERAN AFFAIRS. THAT IS ON NOVEMBER 12TH. THE ADDRESS IS 311 NORTH STAPLES, CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS. THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE CORPUS CHRISTI COMPANY BUILDING. SO ALL ARE WELCOME TO JOIN US THE STANDDOWN, WE'LL PROVIDE A LUNCH. PERSONAL HYGIENE, HAIRCUTS. FLU SHOTS AND BENEFITS. THAT'S MY STATEMENT, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. GARZA. >> WE GET THE PUBLIC HEARING PART ONLINE. >> I NOTED IT FOR THE RECORD I WILL CALL ON YOU WHEN WE GET TO THAT PORTION OF THE MEETING. >> MR. GARZA. >> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, ROLANDO GARZA WITH THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT CIVIL RIGHTS OFFICE, I'M VICE CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING ME HERE, COUNTY JUDGE, AND I HEARD THINGS OUT IN THE MEDIA ON THE [00:10:03] NEWS THAT TROUBLE ME QUITE A BIT. I HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE THE COURT WHEN JUDGE NEIL WAS HERT AND CHANDLER AND JUDGE DOORCHER WAS HERE. I HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE THIS IS NOT, 34 YEARS IN CIVIL RIGHTS COAST TO COAST. IT DISTURBS ME WHEN AN ISSUE ARISES ABOUT THE CITY AND COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT WHEN PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A SYSTEM AND THERE IS MISINFORMATION YOU SIGNED UP NOT ONLY SLANDEROUS BUT A LIE AND INCORRECT. KY NOT TOLERATE THAT. WHEN I DO MY SHOW WE TELL THE TRUTH. AND MR. CHESNEY KNOWS MY BATTLES WE WORKED TOGETHER ON HELPING THE PROJECTSMENT WHEN I HEAR SOMEONE COME AFTER THE JUDGE OR THE COMMISSIONER OR A COUNCILMAN WITH LIES I CANNOT DISPARAGE YOU I CANNOT DISPARAGE YOU, CALL YOU NAMES. NOBODY SHOULD CALL YOU AND DISPARAGE T IS RESPECT FOR YOU AND THE CHAIR. FOR EACH COMMISSIONER SHOULD BE REPORT NOD MATTER WHO THEY ARE. FOR SOMEONE TO CALL YOU CRIMINAL AND SAY MISINFORMATION. I'M SURE YOU KNOW HOW IT WORKS. WHEN YOU RECEIVE GRANDS FOR FUNDING FOR COAST. YOU ACCEPT THE GRAND AS A COMMISSION AS A BOARD. THERE IS THE CITY, THERE IS THE RTA AND IT IS A COOKIE CUTTER. THEY ARE LED TO THE AUDIT DEPARTMENT. HR OR PAY ROLL THEY ARE FORMULATED IN THE BUDGET. WHEN A PERSON TAKES ONE SELF ACT AND ATTEMPT TO LINE THANK PROJECTS IT DOES NOT MEAN THE JUDGE SIGNED OFF. FOR ONE TO SAY THAT IS A LIAR. PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE OUTLETS AND AVIATOR FIELD R WE MAKING -- ARE WE MAKING MONEY. AND COMPENSATION FOR A CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS WITH COVID AT THE JAIL, TAXATION AND IN THE AREAS. THOSE ARE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I HEAR. I HAVE WORKERS HAS ANY MAYOR OR JUDGE EVER SIGNED YOUR CHECK? THEY SAID NO, THEY COME FROM PAY ROLL. FOR SOMEONE TRY TO CUT YOU OR TRY TO HURT YOU POLITICALLY OR I DON'T THINK YOU NEED DEFENDING, THE FAMILY IS LEGENDARY. I CAME OUT. I KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO COME FROM THE FIELD OF CIVIL RIGHTS BUT FOR NO ONE TO COME TO THE PODIUM NOT TO DEFEND. YOU DON'T NEED THAT. ARE YOU A SMART, ARTICULATE BREEZE LOVED PERSON BUT SOMEONE NEEDS TO CALL IT WHAT IT IS. IF THEY WANT TO PLAY POLITICS, LET'S DO IT WITH THE DROUGHT. I THINK THE F.B.I. THEY HAVE A FORENSIC AUDIT IF IT IS OUTSIDE OF THE PER VIEW OF THE COUNTY YOU HAVE THE TEXAS RANGERS AND WHY SOMEONE DESIGNED TO LINE THEIR POCKETS. GO THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT BEFORE THE SEPARATION. YOU NEED TO KNOW WHERE YOUR BUCK STOPS AND WHERE THEY START AND WHERE THEY END AND WHO ARE ALL INVOLVED. I'M A RETIRED PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS, WHEN I WAS LICENSED BY DPS. IT DOES NOT TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED AND CREATE ANIMOSITY IN THE COMMUNITY. DON'T BRING GAS TO A FIRE. I KNOW IN HIGH HEART AND MIND THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WANTS TO WORK TOGETHER FOR THE PEOPLE. WHEN WE HAVE PROBLEMS AFTER 50 YEARS THAT HAS NOT BEEN SOLVED WE HAVE PROBLEMS, COUNTY JUDGE. GOOD LESS YOU AND THE PRIMARY AND HERE US LORD. GIVE US THE WILL AND THE POWER TO UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER I HOPE IT REMAINS THAT WAY. [00:15:06] WE STICK I'LL BE BACK. >>> AT THIS TIME I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT WE DO HAVE I HAVE NINE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING IN-PERSON AND MR. MARKS ONLINE SO I DO NOT SEE ANY FURTHER BUT I'LL ASK ONCE MORE IS THERE ANYONE ELSE MAKING PUBLIC COMMENT NOT ON THE PUNT MAYOR DALEY ON RESTRICTING. [F. PUBLIC HEARING WILL BEGIN AT 9:00 A.M. The Nueces County Commissioners Court will conduct a public hearing to receive public input related to the Nueces County 2021 Redistricting Plan. The purpose of the public hearing is to discuss the local redistricting process, including timeline, and receive/present preliminary work model redistricting maps. CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND RECONVENE REGULAR MEETING] SEEING NONE WE'RE GOOD TO GO IN THE HALLWAY. I'LL MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THAT ALL OF YOU TAKE NOTICE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS Y CONDUCTING A HEARING RELATED TO THE NUECES COUNTY 2021 RESTRICTING PLAN. THE PURPOSE OF THE HEAR SOMETHING TO DISCUSS THE LOCAL REDISTRICTING PROCESS, INCLUDING TIME LINE AND RECEIVE PRESENT PRELIMINARY WORK MODEL REST RESTRICTING MAPS. AT THIS TIME I DIDN'T QUITE GAVEL US IN AND OUT I HAVE 9:18 HERE AS THE START OF THE PUBLIC HEAR SOGGY WOULD CALL UPON. I'LL CALL THEM IN ORDER UNLESS, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT JOSE GO FIRST? WE'LL CALL YOU IN ORDER RECOGNIZE AND THROW IN JOSE GARZA AN ATTORNEY, TREMENDOUS EXPERIENCE IN THE FIELD AND HERE TO VISIT WITH US ABOUT THE RESTRICT PROCESSING AND THE WORK THAT HE HAS BEEN HIRED TO DO. >>> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT, I'LL BE AS BRIEF AS I CAN BUT BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. WE HAVE DISTRIBUTED A PACKET BEFORE HAND. IT WAS YESTERDAY, SO PEOPLE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE. IF WE CAN GO TO THE POWER POINT AND GO TO THE THIRD PAGE THE LAST TIME I CAME BEFORE YOU, WE TALKED ABOUT THE POPULATION OF NUECES COUNTY. AS IT STANDS NOW. >> HOLD ON, CONNIE ANY LUCK THERE K WE GET THAT LITTLE BIGGER FOR THE AUDIENCE -- CAN WE GET THAT A LITTLE BIGGER FOR THE AUDIENCE. >> JOSE, SINCE YOU HAVE THE DATA IF YOU REFER TO SOMETHING WILL YOU READ THE NUMBERS. >> I APOLOGIZE FOR THE SIZE OF THE SLIDE. WE WERE WORKING TO GET THIS TO YOU. WE TALKED ABOUT THE CURRENT POPULATION OF THE DISTRICTS AND WHY IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO CONSIDER DRAWING THE PLAN. THE PLAN YOU RUN UNDER IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL IT IS A TOP TO BOTTOM OF 32.54 , . THE WAY THAT'S CALCULATED IS BY LOOKING AT THE MOST POPULATED AND THE LEAST POPULATED COMMISSIONER PRECINCTS. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE AND THE PERCENTAGE DIFFERENCE IS 32.54%. THE LAW ALLOWS A VARIANCE OF 10%. OTHERWISE THE PLAN IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. SO, HERE WE ARE WITH A PLAN THAT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND AN ELECTION THAT IS IMMINENT. THAT'S THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE IS -- IS WE'RE UNDER A TIGHT TIME LINE. THE THERE WAS SOME ANTICIPATION THAT THE LEGISLATURE WOULD MODIFY THE ELECTION SCHEDULE TO GIVE JURISDICTIONS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE WORK, ESPECIALLY IN A REDISTRICTING YEAR, UNFORTUNATELY TH THAT HAS NOT OCCURRED. WE HAVE THE 13TH A FAIRLY HARD TIME LINE FOR COMMENCING THE ELECTION PROCESS WITH THE FILING PERIOD SO. THE FIRST THING THAT WE NEED TO DO IN DEVELOPING PLANS FOR THE COUNTY IS MAKE SURE THAT THE POPULATION BETWEEN THE COMMISSIONER PREC PRECINCTS ARE BALANCED SEIZE [00:20:02] WHAT HAVE A DIFFERENCE LESS THAN 10%. WE ATTEMPTED TO DO THAT WITH THE FOUR MODEL PLANS THAT WE'LL BE PRESENTING TODAY. THE SECOND THING THE LAW REQUIRES IS THAT THE CURRENT MINORITY OPPORTUNITY DISTRICTS THAT EXIST IN THE PLAN BE PROTECTED. AND SECTION 2 OF THE VOTING RIGHTS AND 194TH AMENDMENT REQUIRE THAT THE RAOEURPBT OPPORTUNITY DISTRICTS BE PROTECTED IN ANY NEW PLAN THAT YOU DEVELOPMENT. AS CAN YOU SEE THERE ARE THREE WHERE THERE ARE CLASSIFIED AT MINORITY OPPORTUNITY DISTRICTS IN THE PLAN. COMMISSIONER PRECINCT 1, WHICH A 65.96% HISPANIC. 69% MINORITY. COMMISSIONER PRECINCT 2, WHICH IS 76% MINORITY AND PRECINCT 3. WHICH IS 75% MINORITY. SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE PLANS DEVELOPED PROTECT THE EXISTENCE OF THOSE THREE DISTRICTS IF IT IS POSSIBLE. THERE ARE OTHER PRINCIPLES WE WANT TO LOOK AT IN WHAT WE DEVELOP. IF YOU TURN TO THE NEXT PAGE YOU WILL SEE WHAT IS CALLED THE COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST. WE LISTED SEVERAL TABLES FOR THE CURRENT PLAN THAT WE HAVE WHICH LISTS, THE CITIES AND THE COMMUNITIES IN NUECES COUNTY AND HOW THEY FIT WITHIN THE PLAN SO YOU SEE THINGS LIKE BISHOP IS IN PRECINCT 2, IT IS 100%. ET CETERA. WE LIST ALL OF THOSE COMMUNITIES IN NUECES COUNTY. WE TAKE A LOOK AT SCHOOL DISTRICTS IF YOU CAN TURN TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO, IN THE PLAN WE HAVE LISTED THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT COME INTO OR ARE WHOLLY CONTAINED IN NUECES COUNTY AND T THEN WHAT THE COMMISSIONER PRECINCT AND WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THOSE JURISDICTIONS ARE IN THOSE COMMISSIONER PRECINCTS. THAT COVERS THE NEXT TWO PAGES. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CHANGE IN DEMOGRAPHICS. THE NEXT SLIDE THERE HAS BEEN A NEW -- A NEW CENSUS. THEY CAME OUT. IT WAS LATE IN THE PROCESS. GENERALLY THE CENSUS IS RELEASED IN FEBRUARY, MARCH OR APRIL THE YEAR FOLLOWING THE COUNT. THIS YEAR FOR REASONS OUTSIDE OF ANYBODY'S CONTROL WITH THE PANDEMIC, ET CETERA, IT WAS DIFFICULT TO CONDUCT THE CENSUS AND THE NUMBERS WERE NOT READY TORE RELEASED UNTIL VERY RECENTLY. THAT PUTS US ALL UP AGAINST THE WALL TO GET THE THINGS DONE IN THE TIMEFRAME THAT WE HAVE THAT WAS CAUSED BY THE CENSUS BUT IN PART BY THE FAILURE TO HAVE RESOURCES DEVOTED SUFFICIENTLY TO CONDUCT THE CENSUS ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL AND AT THE STATE LEVEL. THERE IS A UNDERCOUNT OF THE POPULATION IN THE COUNTRY AND IN TEXAS. A REPORT BY THE URBAN INSTITUTE INDICATES THAT TEXAS HAS THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT COUNTED IN THE CENSUS. AND THAT LATINOS AND AFRICAN-AMERICANS WERE THE POST UNDER COUNTED OF ALL THE POPULATIONS IN TEXAS. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE FIGURE OF ONLY A 3.8% INCREASE IN POPULATION OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS FOR NUECES COUNTY, PART IS CUE TO -- DUE, NUECES COUNTY DO NOT GROW AS FAST AS THE REST OF THE STATE BUT DUE TO THE FACT THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL UNDER COUNT AND ESPECIALLY AMONG PEOPLE OF COLOR HALT TEE KNOWS AND AMERICANS. IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND NUECES COUNTY IS BECOMING MORE HISPANIC. IF YOU SEE ACROSS THE COUNTY THE ANALYSIS THAT COMES OUT OF LOOKING AT THE CENSUS NUMBERS. HISPANICS ARE EVERYWHERE IN THE COUNTY NOW. THERE ARE STILL POCKETS OF SEGREGATION THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND LATINOS ARE -- USED [00:25:05] TO BE 56% OF THE COUNTY AND AFTER THE CENSUS EVEN WITH THE UNDER COUNT AND HISPANICS ARE 61% OF NUECES COUNTY. IN FACT THERE HAS BEEN A SUBSTANTIAL DROP IN THE WHITE POPULATION WHICH IS CATEGORIZED AS THE WHITE POPULATION IN NUECES COUNTY. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE THINGS THAT WE ARE TASKED WITH. ANOTHER THING I THINK THAT EXACERBATES ALL OF THE ISSUES IS NUECES COUNTY IS A POOR COUNTY. I KNOW THAT THINGS ARE IMPROVING, I LIVED IN NUECES COUNTY MANY YEARS AGO, I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL IN NUECES COUNTY, BUT STILL THERE ARE POCKETS OF COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SEVERELY IMMOVERRISHED AND UNDER EDUCATED. I PUT TOGETHER TABLES TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE ARE ON THOSE THINGS OF HOUSING, FAMILY SIZES AND THEN THE NEXT PAGE, PLEASE. HAVING ACCESS TO COMPUTER INTERNET, EDUCATION LEVELS AND INCOME SO, AGAIN, THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE HAD TO WORK WITH AND WE STARTED OUR TASK LOOKING AT VARIOUS MECHANISMS TO DRAW THE PLAN AND THE PLANS COMPLY WITH THE LAW AND REDISTRICTS PRINCIPLES. THE OTHER THING I NOTED, I DID SENATE ON ONE OF THE WHEN YOU FORMED A REDISTRICTS I LISTENED TO THE DISCUSSION THEY MIRRORED MANY OF THE PRINCIPLES THAT A COUNTY SHOULD LOOK AT WHEN IT IS DRAWING INCLUDING THE PROTECTION OF MINORITY VOTING RIGHTS. SO THE FIRST PLAN THAT I HAVE DEVELOP DEVELOPED IF YOU TURN THE NEXT PAGE IT IS PLAN A, AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF MAPS THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED FOR TO YOU LOOK AT A COUNTY WIDE MAP SO YOU CAN SEE SEE THE CONFIGURATION OF THE DISTRICTS THEN THE SECOND WE ZOOM IN ON WHERE THE CHANGE IN THE PLAN IS. THE DARK BLACK LINE IS THE CURRENT DISTRICTS AND THE SHADED AREA IS THE NEW DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE DRAWN. THIS PLAN I CALLED THE LEAST CHANGED PLAN. WE ONLY MOVED TWO OR THREE PRECINCTS IN THE COUNTY TO COME UP WITH THESE NUMBERS. WITH PLAN A IF YOU TURN TO THE NEXT SLIDE, AND ONE MORE. , ON THE FIRST SET THE POPULATION OF EACH OF THE DISTRICTS IN THE NEW PLAN, PLAN A, THE LARGEST DISTRICT IS 2 AND THE SMALLEST DISTRICT WOULD BE 1 AND WHAT YOU CALL THE TOP TO BOTTOM DEVIATION THEN REFLECTED ON THE LAST LINE OF THE FIRST TABLE IS 7.37%. THIS COMPLIES WITH THE ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE. IT IS BELOW 10% IN TOP TO BOTTOM. TILT TRIES TO BALANCE OUT THE POPULATION BETWEEN THE DISTRICTS. NONE ARE OVER 4% OR OVER OR UNDER 4% WHAT IS THE IDEAL IN NUECES COUNTY. THEN THE BOTTOM SET OF NUMBERS SHOWS THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE MINORITY REFLECTION OF THE DISTRICTS SO THAT DISTRICT 1 IS 69, ALMOST 70% MINORITY. DISTRICT 2 IS 75. DISTRICT 3 IS 72 AND DISTRICT 41 IS 42% MINORITY. THE DISTRIBUTION OF MINORITY COMMUNITIES STAYS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AS YOU HAVE IN THE PLAN. THAT'S WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES THAT WE MAINTAIN THE DISTRICTS THAT ARE PROTECTED UNDER THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT AND NUMBER TWO, THAT THAT WE REDUCE THE DEVIATION OR THE DIFFERENCE IN POPULATION SO IT IS BELOW 10%. [00:30:02] AND, AGAIN, ONE OF THE REASONS WE DEVELOPED A LEAST CHANGED PLAN IS FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF YOUR STAFF IN THE COUNTY. AS I SAID, THE 13TH THE BEGINNING OF THE PRIMARY ELECTION SEASON AND THE ADMINISTRATOR IS THE CLERK IN NUECES COUNTY? THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR HAS TO HAVE EVERYTHING READY, HAVE THE VOTING PRECINCTS DONE AND THE POPULATION NEEDS TO KNOW, THE PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY LIVE IN, WHAT COMMISSIONER PRECINCT THEY LIVE IN. ET CETERA. AND WITH THIS -- YES, SIR. I WAS GOING TO ASK A QUESTION, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT. THE SHEET THAT YOU HANDED OUT TODAY? >> YES. >> I'M MAY NOT BE READING IT RIGHT IF I LOOK THIS PLAN A THE NUMBERS ARE DIFFERENT, WE WERE PUTTING THIS TOGETHER JUST AS I WAS LEAVING SAN ANTONIO. >> IS THIS ONE YOU THINK I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAS THIS. IS THIS CORRECT OR THE BOOKLET? >> I THINK THAT THE -- >> WILL YOU READ THE NUMBERS HE CAN POINT TO IT. >> IF I READ THIS PLAN A ON MINE SAYS THAT IF I READ THE PLAN. 4 HAS 90957 POPULATION THIS ONE SAID 86616. >> YOU CAUGHT. ONE OF THE LAST MINUTE CHANGES THAT WE MADE WAS ON PLAN A AS BETWEEN, I BELIEVE IT WAS PRECINCT 4 AND PRECINCT 2 SO THE NUMBER IN THE POWER POINT IS CORRECT. >> THIS ONE OR THIS ONE? >> IN THE POWER POINT. >> THAT NUMBER IS WRONG FOR PLAN A ON THOSE TABLES. SO THAT COMMISSIONER BRENT CHESNEY IS REFERRING TO A TABLE THAT I PASSED OUT TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, I DON'T THINK HAS BEEN MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC WE JUST HAD IT DONE AS I SAID RIGHT BEFORE WE LEFT. WE WERE NOT ABLE TO INCLUDE IT IN THE POWER POINT BUT WE HAVE IT AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE. THIS WHAT IT DOES. IT MEASURES THE POLITICAL NATURE OF THE PREDINTS AND COMPARES IT TO THE POLITICAL NATURE OF THE PLANS THAT WE DEVELOPED. BY THAT I MEAN HOW DEMOCRATIC ARE THERE AND WHO REPUBLICAN ARE THEY. IT IS NOT SCIENTIFIC. WE PICKED FIVE ELECTIONS TO MEASURE THAT. THE TABLE IS MEASURED AGAINST DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES BUT IT COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN MEASURED AGAINST REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES. THE RESULT IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A MIRROR IMAGE. WHAT THIS -- WHAT THIS TABLE SHOWS IS THAT BY THE WAY THE CHANGE THAT YOU HAVE CAUGHT AND WE'LL FIX, WILL NOT HAVE ANY MEASURABLE IMPACT ON THE TABLE. THEY WILL BE THE SAME IT IS ONE PREDINT FROM ONE DISTRICT INTO OTHER. SO IT IS NOTE REFLECTED THERE BUT BUT IT WILL NOT CHANGE THE POLITICAL NATURE OF THOSE DISTRICTS. I THINK THE TWO TRADED I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBERS BUT WE CHECKED THE POLITICAL NATURE OF THOSE AND THEY WERE THE SAME AS WELL. >> IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE, TOO. WHEN YOU SAY "TRADED" THAT IMPLIES THE THINGS PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT. WE DIDN'T, WE AS A COURT, WE HAVE NOT TRADED ANYTHING, RIGHT? >> NO. >> LET'S BE CLEAR ON THAT. >> THIS IS YOU IN YOUR DRAWING, HOWEVER YOU HAVE DROWN IT. THERE HAS BEEN NO, LIKE I'LL TAKE THIS, YOU TAKE THIS. THAT'S THE THING WHAT EVERYONE IS CONCERNED ABOUT AND I HAD NO CONVERSATIONS AND I DOUBT ANYONE HASMENT WHEN YOU SAID TRADED YOU KIND OF TWEAKED IT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE [00:35:02] SQUARE ON THAT. >> NO. I DIDN'T RESULT WITH ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS OR THE JUDGE BEFORE WE MADE THE CHANGES. AND I DID INTERVIEW ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS. I GOT YOUR INPUT ON WHAT YOU THOUGHT AND THE PROCESS SHOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT SORTS OF GLOBAL ISSUES YOU THOUGHT I SHOULD LOOK AT IN TERMS OF HOW I STARTED DRAWING THE PLANS. I'M GLAD FOR THE CLARIFICATION, COMMISSIONER. BUT, AGAIN, THE PLAN SHOWS IT IS COMPLIANT, PLAN A IS COMPLIANT WITH ONE PERSON ONE VOTE AND COMPLIANT WITH THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT AND ON THE BACK OF THE SHEET, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, IS THE -- THE CURRENT I THINK COPIED ON THE FRONT AND BACK ON THAT TABLE. ON THE BACK IS THE POLITICAL DEMOGRAPHICS FOR THE CURRENT PLAN SO IF YOU WANT TO COMPARE PLAN A OR A 1 OR A 2 OR PLAN 1 POLITICALLY TO THE CURRENT PLAN, WOULD YOU LOOK AT THE FRONT TABLE AND THE FRONT PAGE AND THE TABLE IN PARTICULAR AND THEN FLIP THE PAGE TO SEE HOW IT MEASURES IN UNDER TODAY'S DISTRICTS. IF WE GO TO THE NEXT PAGE THE NEXT IS MAKES CHANGES THAT ARE MORE SUBSTANTIAL BUT FOLLOWING THE SAME PATTERN IN TERPS OF THE DESIGN OF THE PLAN. ALL OF THE PLANS HAVE SOME RURAL AREA BUT COME INTO THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI TO PICK UP POPULATION. THAT'S THE WAY CAN YOU BALANCE IT OUT SO THEY SPOKE IN AND MOVE OUT AND ALL OF THE PLANS WILL DO THAT. >> WOULD YOU, WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE COULD YOU ADJUST WHATEVER ON THIS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU CAN PROVIDE IT AND WHOEVER WANTS IT, PLEASE. >> WHEN WE WENT OVER HOW EACH OF THE PLANS -- HOW THE PLAN AFFECTED THE COMMUNITIES THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND THE TOWNS AND RURAL COMMUNITY. WE DON'T HAVE THOSE IN THIS PACT FOR THE PLANS BUT WE'LL GET THOSE BY THE END OF THE WEEK ON EACH OF THE PLANS YOU WILL SEE THOSE AND WE WILL PROVIDE A LISTING OF THE VOTING PRECINCTS IN EACH OF THE PLAN SO THAT CAN YOU ISOLATE ON A PRECINCT AND LOOK WHERE IT IS T IS DIFFICULT TO SEE THE PRECINCTS IN THE MAPS. WE'LL PROVIDE YOU WITH THE TOOL THAT WILL HELP WITH THAT. THAT ZOOMS IN ON THE CHANGES AND, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CURRENT PLAN IS IN THE DARK BLACK AND THE PLAN BEING PROPOSED IS IN THE COLOR. , LET ME SAY AS A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON PLAN ONE THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AT THE MEETING ON THE REDISTRICTS COMMISSION ON THE PROCESS THAT OCCURRED IN NUECES COUNTY IN 10 -- 2011 AND HOW THEY WERE MOVED IN AN ATTEMPT TO MODIFY THE PARTISAN NATURE AND TO SOME IT FELT LIKE IT WAS AIMED AT THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY. I DID RESEARCH ON THAT AND I FOUND A LETTER THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. A PRECINCT THAT WAS IDENTIFIED WAS 63. PRECINCT 63 WAS MOVED INTO COMMISSIONER PRECINCT 4 FROM COMMISSIONER PRECINCT 2 -- PRECINCT 1 IN THIS PLAN. I'M NOT SURE THAT IN THE DATA THIS HAD MUCH OF AN IMPACT ON EITHER THE DNR EVALUATION OR [00:40:06] THE MINORITY NUMBERS ON THE PLANS. I WANTED TO SEE WHAT THE CHANGE WOULD DO TODAY. IT DID NOT HAVE MUCH OF AN IMPACT IN THE PLANS. >> YOU SAID 63, THAT'S 3. MOVING INTO PRECINCT 3 THE BLACK LINE THAT'S IN 3. >> 63 IS MY OLD ONE. >> 53. SORRY. >> 53 IS MOVING INTO PRECINCT 3? >> PRECINCT 1. >>> PRECINCT. >>> THE NUMBERS ARE OFF THAT IS ONE THAT WAS BEING LOOKED AT. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT TABLE WHEN YOU BALANCE OUT THE POPULATION THE DEVIATION IS 5.31% T IS WELL WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE 1 PERSON ONE VOTE REQUIREMENT AND THE NUMBERS AGAIN ARE FAIRLY CONSISTENT IN ALL THE PLANS. 68.8% IN PRECINCT 1. 78 IN 2. 73.9% IN 3 AND 43% IN FOUR. ALMOST ALL OF THE PLANS ARE CONSISTENT IN THAT WAY. >> EVEN THOUGH WE SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS IN THE START. THERE IS NO REAL, YOU KNOW KEY OR GLOSSARY OF TERMS JUST REMIND EVERYONE THAT THE -- THAT THE DEFINITION OF DEVIATION SO WHEN WE SAY WHY IS THAT DEVIATED, RIGHT. THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE NUMBERS NOT BEING EQUAL, RIGHT AND THE DELTA OR THE DIFFERENCE. WHAT YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN IT IN YOUR WORDS? , I FEEL LIKE WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS YOU'RE OVER 10% DEVIATION WE NEED TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND WHAT WE WERE BECAUSE YOU SAID THIS IN THE BEGINNING IT IS IMPORTANT. THE DEVIATION WAS WAY OFF FOR CURRENT DATA AND NOW THIS PLAN PUTS US WHERE YOU WANT TO BE WHICH IS UNDER 10%. JUST EXPLAIN THAT WORD, DEVIATION AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THERE BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE A SCARIER, VERY ODD WORD BUT IT'S NOT, IT REFERS TO THE NUMBERS. >> IT IS A DETERMINE OF ART THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED THROUGH LITIGATION. THIS IS THE DETERMINE. >> YOU MEASURE THE POPULATION AND THAT'S HOW A COURT IS ELECTED FROM SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS AND YOU MEASURE THE POPULATION OF EACH DISTRICT. AND IF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MOST POPULATED AND THE LEAST POPULATED COMPARED TO WHAT IT WOULD BE EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED. THAT IS THE POPULATION IS GREATER THAN 10%, THEN IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. AS WE SAID AT THE START IN NUECES COUNTY THAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MOST AND THE LEAST POPULATED DISTRICTS IS 37%. THERE ARE OTHER MEASURES OF COMPLIANCE WITH ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE TAKING THE AVERAGE, AGAIN, DEVIATION OR DIFFERENCE FROM THE IDEAL BUT THE MOST COMMON USED AND THE MOST OFTEN RECOGNIZED IS THE WHAT IS CALLED THE TOP TO BOTTOM DEVIATION OR THE TOTAL DEVIATION AND IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE A TOP TO BOTTOM THAT IS MOST POPULATED TO LEAST POPULATED DIFFERENCE OF 5.31% WHEREAS THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT IS NO MORE THAN 10 AND THE CURRENT PLAN IS 37. GOT IT. I'M SORRY AND AT THIS POINT WHEN YOU GET COMFORTABLE, PEOPLE GO WAIT A MINUTE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. AND I'M GOING TO ENCOURAGE THAT TYPE OF, YOU KNOW. THIS TYPE OF DIALOGUE THAT'S WHAT A HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT, THANK YOU. , ANOTHER MAP 1-A. AGAIN. 1-A IS A VARIATION OFF THE SAME MODEL WITH THE NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND THIS ONE WE [00:45:04] MOVED AGAIN THE RED LINE AND THE COLOR IS -- THAT IS THE MODEL DISTRICT AND THE BLACK LINE IS THE CURRENT DISTRICT LINES. AND AND PRECINCT ONE. AND THEY DO AS WELL. BUT MIXED MODIFICATIONS ON THE EDGES BETWEEN THE DISTRICTS AND THOSE ARE BETTER SEEN, I GUESS, ON THE NEXT MAP, MAP 2 OF 1-A. THE BLACK LINE IS THE CURRENT AND THE COLOR IS THE PROPOSED OR MODEL PLAN AND AGAIN GOING TO THE TABLE, THE NEXT PAGE LOOKING AT THE TABLE THE MODIFICATIONS BRING US TO THE EDGE AND DISTRICT 2 IS STILL THE MOST POPULATED AND DISTRICT 1 IS THE LEAST POPULATED AND THE COLOR DEVIATION IS 9% A LITTLE OVER 9% THE MINORITY NUMBERS AGAIN ARE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AS IN ALL OF THE OTHER PLANS. IN LOOKING AT THE PLANNINGS THAT WE HAVE AND THE DISCUSSIONS I HAD WITH THE COMMISSIONERS AND LISTENING TO THE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, I WOULD LIKE TO MODIFY THE PLAN SO THAT THE POPULATION OF PRECINCT 2 IS LOWERED IT IS ONE OF THE MINORITY DISTRICTS AND IT IS ONE OF THE OVERPOPULATED IN ALL OF THE PLANS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSED ARED. DISTRICT 4, THE ONLY NON-MINORITY DISTRICT IS IN THE PLAN SLIGHTLY UNDER BY ABOUT 2000 PEOPLE THE IDEAL, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT HIGHER FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. ONE IS THAT THESE ARE THE MINORITY DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE OVERPOPULATED. IF THEY ARE THE HEAVIEST WE SHOULD MODIFY THE PLANS TO REFLECT THAT NOT DRAMATICALLY OR DRASTICALLY BUT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE -- YOU HAVE 93,000 PEOPLE MORE OR LESS IN THE PRECINCT PLAN BUT THAT'S WITH WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF -- THE POPULATION IS HIGHER THAN 93. LET PEE STRESS THE PLANS -- LET ME STRESS THE PLANS ARE NOT SET IN STONE. WE'RE NOT MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS, WE'RE PRESENTING THEM SO WE CAN CONTINUE THE DIALOGUE ABOUT THE CHANGES WE CAN MAKE BEFORE WE PRESENT THE PLANS. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A -- A NOVEMBER 8TH HEARING IN WHICH WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN IN THE EVENING. I HOPE TO HAVE MODIFICATIONS TO THE PLANS DEVELOPED BY THEN. AND TO RECEIVE COMMENT ON THE CURRENT PLANS. WE CAN MAKE MORE MODIFICATIONS EVEN AFTER THAT. >> A QUESTION. NOVEMBER 8TH THAT IS CORRECT. >> WE ARE LOOKING AT FIVE IN THE EVENING. THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC THROUGH -- >> WEB SITE; OR SOME MEANS, WE CAN PUT IT ON THE WEB SITE DO ALL THOSE THINGS. AND CAN WE MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC SOMEHOW BY REQUEST? >> WE HAVE MADE COPIES THAT WERE DISTRICTED TO THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ATTENDED THE HEARING. WE CAN HAVE MORE AVAILABLE HERE AT THE COUNTY. PRESIDENT-ELECT -- - PRECINCT, IT IS 2000 UNDER THE PLAN? >> IT IS 2000. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT HIGHER AND LOSE FEWER PEOPLE THAN IT'S LOST IN THE MODIFICATIONS WE MADE. >> SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. I HAVE GONE FROM THE LARGEST TO THE SMALLEST I HATE GAVE GIVING UP THE PEOPLE I REPRESENT. I HAVE GONE FROM THE SMALLEST [00:50:04] TO THE SECOND LARGEST OR LARGEST; I KNOW. THERE ARE SOME TWEAKS. I'LL TAKE BACK MY PEOPLE. >> THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS 5000 ARE YOU LOOKING AT 2 AND 4 BUT WILL MAKE A THE DIFFERENCE, RIGHT? AND THE POPULATION OF $5000. INCOME -- OF 5000. AND 2 IS ABOUT 5000. >> WE KNOW THE CONSTITUENTS AND THE EXPERIENCE WITH THE CENSUS THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE AREA OF THAT AREA THAT WE'RE -- THAT WERE NOT COUNTED. YOUNGS PEOPLE, HISPANICS NOT COUNTIED THAT -- COUNTED THAT ARE NOT REFLECTED IN THE NUMBERS. ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO AND ADJUST FOR THAT LEGALLY, REDUCE THE CENSUS NUMBERS IN PRECINCT 2 AND INCREASE THE NUMBERS. WE'LL GO BACK AND REVIEW THOSE THINGS. THE NEXT PAGE IS THE MAP OF THOSE CHANGES THE BLACK LINE IS THE PLAN AND THE PROPOSED MAP AND, AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SHOULD. AND I DON'T KNOW AND THE COMMISSIONER'S REACTION WOULD BE TO THAT. BUT IT IS MORE RURAL THAN ANY OF THE OTHERS AND FURTHER WEST AND SOUTH. >> HE IS AVAILABLE AND HERE ONLINE WITH US. >> I WANTED TO NOTE THAT FOR HIM TO LOOK AT THAT. THESE ARE NOT SET IN STONE. WE'RE NOT MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS. THE OTHER THING THAT THIS IS THE LAST MAP I BELIEVE THAT WE DEVELOPED. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID TRY TO LOOK AT COMMISSIONER MAREZ IS ON THE EDGE. THERE IS A COMMUNITY THERE WE WANTED TO SEE IF WE CAN ADD SOME TO HIS PRECINCT. HE LIVES ON THE STREET THAT BORDERS THE DISTRICTS. I'M CURIOUS WHETHER THAT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, PROGRAMS, SHOULD BE MORE UNIFIED. WE MOVED IN THIS PLAN TO TWO THE NORTH AND AND WEST OF HIS VOTING PRECINCT? >> NORTHEAST? >> IS THAT MAP TWO? >> , YOU SEE THE LINE THAT BORDERS THE TEACH COLORED DISTRICT YOU CAN SEE THE PEACH COLOR MOVES NORTH AND WEST FROM THAT LINE. THAT'S WHAT WE PICK UP AROUND WHERE THE COMMISSIONER RESIDES TO SEE WHAT ITS TO WITH THE NUMBERS AND THE NOTION THAT THERE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THERE THAT SHOULD BE TOGETHER. , I WANT TO SAY IT'S -- >> I WANT TO SIGH SAY IT IS NOT ABOUT ME. I WANT TO SEE THE COMMUNITIES STAY THE SAME AND NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY BUT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE RECOGNIZABLE AND IDENTIFIABLE THEY SHOULD BE KEPT INTACT WHERE THEY EXIST IN THE COUNTY. >> I DID NOT INTIMATE IF I HAVE BEEN GETTING INSTRUCTIONS ON THE CHANGES FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS OR THE JUDGE. I HAVE NOT, I HAD GENERAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE [00:55:05] COMMISSIONERS ABOUT THE PLAN. ONE OF THE THINGS WE NOTICED AS WE PLOTTED THE RESIDENCES WHICH IS A REDISTRICTING THAT YOU PLOT THEM OF THE INCUMBENTS. WE NOTICED COMMISSIONER MAREZ WAS ON THE BORDER OF THAT DISTRICT. THAT'S WHY WE TRIED TO SEIZE WHAT THAT MOVE WOULD DO TO THE NUMBERS. YOU'RE AN EXPERT, SOME OF US HEARD THE TERMINOLOGY OVER TIME. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING CERTAIN THAT IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR INSTANCE, NOT TO HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER LIVING ON ONE SIDE OF THE BLOCK AND HAVING A NEIGHBOR BEING REPRESENTED BY ANOTHER COMMISSIONER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BLOCK. THIS IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY. COULD YOU HAVE DIFFERING. I WANT TO SHARE THE REASON THIS IS IMPORTANT TO DO BEFORE A COURT ADOPTS THE MAPS WE GET TO HAVE THE DIALOGUE THIS WAS NOT DONE IN 21110 YEARS AGO THAT IS WHY IT IS DIFFERENT. AT SOME POINT I WILL PIVOT TO MY SHEET AND YOU GUYS THAT HAVE COME MULTIPLE TIMES TO THE COURTROOM WE'RE APPRECIATIVE, WERE YOU CONCERNED MAKING SURE THAT YOU COULD SEE IT BEFORE COURT MAKE AS MOVE. THAT'S WHY I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK AND THE RECORD TIME THE ONLY THING FOR OLD TIRED EYES WITH MORE TIME MAYBE BY THE END OF THE WEEK WE CAN BLOW THE MAPS UP JUST A LITTLE BIT. WE DO WANT TO SEE THOSE LINES AND GET INTO THE INFORMATION. I KNOW THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT WITH TECHNOLOGY. >> ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION IS THAT I HAVE HAD A EXCELLENT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE STAFF, THE STAFF OF EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND BEE LINDA HAS BEEN HELPFUL I'M IN DIALOGUE TO GET BETTER MAPS THAT ARE MORE EASY UNDERSTOOD. WE'LL WORK ON THAT TRYING TO GET THAT DONE. AND THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION ON THE COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST THING IS THAT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO BE SENSITIVE ABOUT THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NOTICED WE WANTED TO PLAY WITH BUT IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. IT IS EASY TO KNOW AND BE ABLE TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY KNOWN TOGETHER BECAUSE IT IS DEFINED. THERE IS A BOUNTRY THERE THAT SHOWS UP ON THE MAP OR ROBSTOWN BUT A COMMUNITY THERE ARE NO BOUNDARIES WHEN IT IS CLOSER TO TOWN. THEY WILL ALWAYS CUT DOWN A STREET OR A BLOCK AND BE PEOPLE ON ONE SIDE OF THE LINE AND PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LINE WHO WILL BE IN THE OTHER DISTRICT. THEY MAY BE, YOU KNOW EXTREMELY CLOSE NEIGHBORS BUT THE LINE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE. WE DON'T RUN AT LARGE FOR A COMMISSIONER AND THAT'S JUST THE NATURE THEY CUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS THERE IS NO AVOIDING ITER. I NOTICED, I WANTED TO SEE IF THERE IS SOMETHING TO CHANGE. WITH THAT, COMMISSIONER, I WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE COURT AND STAFF WHO HAVE BEEN HELPFUL. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW UNLESS SOMEONE HAS QUESTIONS. >> I WILL HAVE YOU PAUSE. THAT'S A GOOD TIME AND TRANSITION TO COMMENTS. PLEASE BE AVAILABLE TO HELP ANSWER QUESTIONS AND CREATE THE DIALOGUE. LET ME START IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP UNLESS YOU TELL ME BECAUSE OF THE SOMEONE NEEDS TO ATTEND TO A DIFFERENT MATTER: GREAT IF YOU ADHERE TO THE WAY WE HAVE SIGNED UP MR. MARX. ARE YOU OKAY ON TIME? WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST. I WOULD APPRECIATE A FEW MINUTES IF YOU CAN START THE IN-PERSON COMMENTS. >> NO PROBLEM AT ALL. I WANTED TO HOW ABOUT THESE ARE THE WORSE GLASSES. [01:00:09] THEY HAVE A GLARE ON THEM. MISS BOATWRIGHT. SANDRA? >> , THANK YOU, FIRST, FOR ALLOWING THIS AND THE TRANSPARENCY WITHIN I HEARD THE INVOCATION HE SAID WHAT I NEED TO SAY I CAN GO HOME. TOO BAD, I'M HERE. I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK THE LISTEN TO THE CITIZENS TO MAKE THIS AVAILABLE. NOT JUST TO ALLOW COMMENTS BUT TO SEEK THE COMMENTS AND PUBLISH THE INFORMATION IN THE NEWSPAPER MAKE IT AVAILABLE NOT JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED WHO CAN GO IN AND FIND THE AGENDA BUT MAY NOT KNOW OTHERWISE. IN OTHER WORDS, SPEND SOME PUBLICITY ON IT. THE SIMILAR KWROEUGS IN THE VOICES. WE VUL A VOICES WE EXPRESS THEM THROUGH VOTE. THAT IS IMPORTANT IT GOES BACK TO THE FOUNDING OF THE COUNTRY, ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE WHICH HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS FOR THE GOOD. BUT IT IS THE BASIS FOR THE GOVERNMENT. I STUDIED HISTORY IN SCHOOL THIS PARTICULAR THE FOUNDING PART OF THE COUNTRY. IT HAS BEEN IMPORTANT TO ME. I KNOW I HAVE A VOICE AND I USE IT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. IT IS ONLY MADE BETTER BY HEARING OTHER VOICES AND COMBINING WITH THOSE VOICES AND IT IS CHANGED AND FOR ME TO HEAR THE OTHER VOICES AND EVEN MORE IMPORTANT FOR TO YOU HEAR THEM. AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE HEARD BOTH IN THE RESTR RESTRICTING PLAN THAT'S COMING UP AND IN THE ELECTIONS THERE AFTER. SO. ESSENTIALLY IN, YOU KNOW PUTTING0EN MY HAT HERE AND WAVING THE RED, WHITE AND BLUE I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO LOOK AT THE DISTRICT AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE FAIR AND EVERYBODY HAS A VOICE AND TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS A VOICE BOTH AT THIS TIME AND AFTER THE LINES. I THINK IT IS A RECOGNITION OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN PEOPLE AND THE DESIRE TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THAT VOICE I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE WORRY AND YOU CAN HEAR THE CHOIR AND PEOPLE CAN DO IT. I HEARD A LOT TODAY. THERE IS A LOT TO DIGEST I'M APPRECIATIVE ABOUT THE COMMENTS OF LISTENING TO EACH OTHER AND ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO CONTINUE TO DO THE SAME AND ASK THAT THE FOCUS ON THIS BE UL MADE FAIRNESS AS POLYPED TO ANYTHING ELSE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE PAULA BRIGHTON. >>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE BARBARA CANALES AND COMMISSIONERS I'M PAUL ARE A BRIGHTON I'M SPEAKING ON MY OWN BEHALF. YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF COMPANIES RELOCATING FROM CALIFORNIA TO TEXAS FOR TAX ADVANTAGES. WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH FAIR MAPS? THE 27TH ISSUE OF THE INVESTMENT MONITOR AN ARTICLE WHY THE ASSAULT ON U.S. DEMOCRACY IS A BUSINESS ISSUE CITES A APRIL 2021 GROUP REPORT THE POTENTIAL ECONOMIC IMPACT OF LEGISLATION REDISTRICTING VOTER ACCESS ON BUSINESS ACTIVITY IN TEXAS. THE PERRYMAN GROUP ESTIMATES RESTRICTING THE ACCESS WOULD LEAD TO A TOTAL DECREASE IN BUSINESS ACTIVITY FROM LOWER EARNINGS AND UNEMPLOYMENT -- EMPLOYMENT LOSSES AND REDUCED HOUSEHOLD PURCHASING BY 2025 OF AN ESTIMATED ALMOST $15 BILLION IN ANNUAL GROSS PRODUCT AND A LOSS OF 73,000 JOBS, INCLUDING MULTIPLIER EFFECTS. MEASURES RESTRICTING ACCESS COULD CAUSE A DECREASE IN TOURISM AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE STATE. ANY DECREASE IN BUSINESS ACTIVITY LEADS TO A DECREASE IN TAX REVENUE. THE ECONOMIC LOSSES ASSOCIATED WITH THE MEASURES RESTRICTING THE VOTER ACCESS A DECREASE IN TAX RECEIPTS TO THE STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITIES AND CITIES, COUNTIES. SCHOOLS AND SPECIAL DISTRICTS OF OVER 800 MILLION-DOLLARS TO THE STATE AND FOUR MILLION TO GOVERNMENT ENTITIES. RISING TO OVER $9 MILLION TO [01:05:01] THE STATE AND 4 BILLION TO ENTITIES BY 2045. MORE THAN 240 BUSINESSS FROM AMAZON TO ZOOM HAVE JOINED TOGETHER TO URGE CONGRESS TO PASS THE JOHN LEWIS VOTING RIGHTS ACT TO MAKE FAIR AND SAFE ACCESS. THE BUSINESS FOR THE FREEDOM IS EVERYONE'S BUSINESS. SINCE TEXAS IS A FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS STATE, I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS. WOULD YOU WANT TO ATTEND A GAME WHERE YOU KNEW WHAT THE OUTCOME WOULD BE FROM THE OUTIS THE? WHAT IS THE POINT. A PROCESS AND COMMISSION AND THE DISTRICT SO THAT VOTERS ARE EXCITED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE GAME OF IDEAS. LAMONT TAYLOR PLEASE. >>> GOOD MORNING. AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND, I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VIEW BRIEFLY THE REPORT I WOULD THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST HAVE A COPY IN OUR HANDS. FOLLOW THROUGH IN THE PROCESS BUT LET THE PEOPLE SPEAK AND DRAW THE LINES IT IS THE VOTE WE'RE SEEKING TO HAVE A PROCESS I ENCOURAGE YOU TO HAVE AND SO THAT WE CAN PARTICIPATE AND IT WILL BE A REPRESENTATION OF PEOPLE IN NUECES COUNTY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. >> THANK YOU, MR. TAYLOR. , MISS GONZALES. >> MISS ROGERS, JULIE ROGERS. , I'M GLAD TO GO THE INFORMATION I'M TORN WHAT TO SPEAK ABOUT. I HAD SOMETHING ELSE I'LL READ WHAT I PREPARED AND ADD A FEW THINGS. >> LAST WEEK I SPOKE AND ASKED FOR A FAIR AND OPEN PROCESS FOR REDISTRICTING. I NOTED THE RESTRICTED TIME LINE AND A TIME LINE WITH ACTIONS FOREA FAIR AND OPEN PROCESS LIKE HOLDING TWO PUBLIC INPUT HEARINGS PREFERABLY IN THE EVENING AND WITH PROPER NOTICE. THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A WEB SITE OR A PAGE WITH INFORMATION AND A PORTAL FOR COMMENT. THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS GAVE INPUT AS WELL. I FOLLOWED UP WITH MY REPRESENTATIVES TO SEE WHAT PRESS WE WOULD HAVE BUT NEVER RECEIVED A RELY. ULTIMATELY ON SATURDAY I SAW A HEARING ON THE AGENDA WHICH GAVE US FIVE DAY'S NOTICE. I COULD NOT CHECK ON RIDE WE WOULD HAVE HAD SIX DAYS NOTICE AND FIVE TO SIX DAYS AND FIVE DAYS IS NOT SUFFICIENT. IT HAPPENED EVERY TEN YEARS AND IT IS A BIG DEAL. WHEN I SHARED WHAT WAS HAPPENING HERE LOCALLY WITH OTHERRED A VERY INDICATES IN -- ADVOCATES IN TEXAS IT IS SO SAD THAT NUECES COUNTY IS NOT DOING MORE TO INCLUDE THE PUBLIC. [01:10:04] IT MAKES ME SAD, TOO AND FRIGHTENED ME. MANY PEOPLE ARE LOSING FAITH IN OUR INSTITUTIONS AND DEMOCRACY, OUR PARTICIPATION IS DISMAL. WHEN I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO VOTE OR GIVE INPUT THE RESPONSE IS THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER. I REMIND THEM THAT IT DOES MATTER AND HOW MUCH PEOPLE SACRIFICED FOR US TO VOTE AND OUR DEMOCRACY BUT YOUR APPROACH TO REDISTRICTING BOLSTERS THEIR SCEPTICISM. OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS SHOULD FOSTER AND ENCOURAGE MORE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION N MARCH 2020 A HISTORICAL DISPLAY CELEBRATING THE 100 YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF WOMEN'S RIGHT TO VOTE AND HIGHLIGHTING THE SUFFRAGE MOVEMENT FROM 1846 TO 1920 GRACED THE LOBBY OF THE COURTHOUSE. I HOPE YOU LOOKED AT IT AND WALKED BY IT MANY TIMES, PLEASE DON'T FORGET WHAT YOU SEE SAW. NOW IT'S YOUR TIME TO MAKE HISTORY. GIVE US THE REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY THAT WE AND OTHERS FOUGHT FOR AND DESERVE. GIVE US FAIR MAPS. THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO SAY. I STICK TO IT. THE INFORMATION WAS GREAT. WE DIDN'T GET TIME TO LOOK AT IT AND COMMENT ON THE MAPS IT IS HARD TO CALL IT A PUBLIC HEARING. THE BEGINNING OF INFORMATION. SO YOU MENTION THAT THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER. THAT'S FIVE DAYS. YOU SAID 5:00. I THINK THAT IS A NOT THE BEST TIME. WE ASKED FOR IN THE EVENING BUT MANY WORKING PEOPLE ARE GETTING OFF AT 5 WHY NOT PUT A BIT OF BUFFER TIME THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO GIVE PEOPLE THE TIME TO PARTICIPATE. I KNOW THAT YOU -- THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT, TOO. THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO SPEAK TO YOU. OFF THE TOP SEEING THE MAPS, I CAN TELL YOU I CAN'T WAIT TO ENGAGE WITH IT MORE. I DO LIKE MAP 1-A. 2 PUTTINGS MORE RURAL AREAS IN DISTRICT 1. THAT'S IMPORTANT. COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST ARE NOT JUST PLIT BY STR STREETS BUT WHAT THEY NEED. THE RURAL AREAS OF NUECES COUNTY ARE VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE URBAN AREAS. I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE TO PUT -- BALANCE OUT THE POPULATION BUT I'M IN DISTRICT 1 I LIVE IN DOWNTOWN. AND WHAT HAPPENS DOWNTOWN IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS NEAR ROBSTOWN WHERE THERE IS BUILDING AND ACTIVITY HAPPENING. , TAKE INTO INFORMATION WHAT WE'RE SAYING. I THINK VERY MUCH. >> THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE HEAR ABOUT WHITES. CAN'T WE PUT EVERYTHING IN THE WEB SITE AND IN THE PAPER. IT SHOULD BE IN THE PAPER IF WE CAN THE MORE THE BETTER WE SHOULD DO MORE LETTING THE PUBLIC KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT AND YOUR COMMENTS OVER THERE, TOO. AND THE NEWSPAPER THING. LET ME SAY THAT. WE'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF MAKING CERTAIN WE HAVE A GOOD TIME. I DON'T THINK FATHER CLOCK IS SET IN STONE THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD EXPAND ON. I THINK THAT THE NEWSPAPER IS GREAT TODAY JUST SO YOU KNOW YOU SAW THE MAPS IS THE FIRST TIME I SAW THEM. IT IS EQUAL. THE REASON EVERYONE IS IN A RUSH NOTHING TO DO WITH US BUT FACTORS OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL THAT WE CANNOT DO. THAT'S WHY WE'RE IN A PINCH AND WE WERE ASK TO GO THROUGH THE RFQ PROCESS THAT DELAYED US MONTHS. THERE HAD TO BE A CONTRACT SIGNED WHICH CREATED TIME. HAVING SAID ALL OF THAT, WHAT MY CONCERN IS THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORLD OF MISINFORMATION DOES NOT GOVERN OVER THE WORLD OF INFORMATION. FOR THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE WATER MARKS, OKAY. THAT YOU COULD NOT TAKE THESE MAPS AND COPY AND PASTE THEM INTO A REALM THAT PEOPLE CAN M MANIPULATE OR SAY THIS IS THE FINAL MAP. WHOEVER TOLD YOU THAT I WANT TO REASSURE YOU OF WHOEVER SAID [01:15:03] HEY IT IS SAD WHAT IS GOING ON IN NUECES DOES NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON IN NUECES. WHAT WAS SAD WAS TEN YEARS AGO. WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW IS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR. GARZA REPRESENT LITERALLY EVERYTHING THAT YOU STAND FOR WITH THE VOTING RIGHTS AND HAVE A HISTORY OF VOTING RIGHTS. AND THEY ARE THE REPRESENTATIVE OF PAIRNESS IT IS REPRESENTED IN THE POLITICAL NATURE COMPARISON THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WAS NOT EXPECTING TODAY. BUT THE ANSWER CAN IT BE ON A WEB SITE? YES, ON OURS? , OURS REQUIRES CERTAIN TYPES WE CAN GET IT IN A PUBLIC FORUM THAT'S NOT A PUBLIC. ON OUR WEB SITE, COMMISSIONER, WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE THE PUBLIC INFORMATIONS OFFICER TO DO ALL OF THE THINGS BUT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING -- I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE ARE INTERPRETATIONS IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A PUBLIC INFORMATIONSTER WHOSE JOB TO GET OUT PUBLIC INFORMATION HERE. THAT'S WHY A MODERN COUNTY THAT REQUIRES TRANSPARENCY NEEDS FULL-TIME COMMUNICATORS. HAVING SAID THAT GETTING IN THE PAPER, CREATING A BETTER TIME, I'LL DO WHAT I CAN I'M ON MULTIPLE RADIO SHOWS EVERY WEEK. WE CAN PROMPT AT THE TIME LIKE WE HAVE. WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO IS GO FROM THE CONTRACT PERIOD TO THE WORK PERIOD IN RECORD TIME. THAT'S WHAT MR. GARZA HAS DONE. NOW HE -- I NEED HIM TO HONESTLY OPEN UP THE MAPS SO WE CAN READ THEM BETTER. GET MORE WHAT I CALL GRANULAR SO THAT WHAT WE LIKE CAN BE SEEN BETTER. WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IS PUBLISH SOMETHING TO THE COMMUNITY THAT'S NOT EASY TO READ OR UNDERSTAND. SOME OF THE THINGS I POINTED OUT LIKE WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO HAVE A DEVIATION AND COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST. HE HAS TO HAVE THAT FEED BACK THAT WE GET TODAY AND THEN IT IS PROPER AND TIMELY TO GET IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC. WE CAN BE QUICK AND SWIFT. RIGHT NOW MISS BELL LINDA IS THE GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS INTERIM COURT MANAGER AND -- IN OUR OFFICEAND LIAISON WITH PUBLIC INFORMATION. WE'LL DO IT ALL IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME I SEE NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS GIVEN THE TIMEFRAME THAT THE LEGISLATURE AND THE CENSUS GAVE USMENT WHEN THE PROCESS IS OVER YOU WILL GET TO CELEBRATE THAT AS WELL. >> JUST A QUICK COMMENT IF I COULD. CONNIE ARE YOU NOT OUR WEB SITE ADMINISTRATOR? >> SHE IS NOT A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER. >> BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT PUT STUFF ON THE WEB SITE IS THAT NOT YOU? >> I HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN DO IT. >> THE COURT IS SAYING WE WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE WEB SITE SO IT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT. THE JUDGE SAID WE GOT THESE, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THEM FOR THE FIRST TIME. WHEN DID WE GET THE CLEANOUS DATA, WE WERE ABLE TO START THE PROCESS? >> WOULD YOU MIND GRABBING THE MIC. >> WE KNOW THE CLEANOUS DATA IS LATE. >> LITERALLY. >> THE CLEANOUS WAS RELEASED TO THE STATES IN THE MIDDLE OF AUGUST BUT NOT MADE AVAILABLE AND COMMUNITIES AND JURISDICTIONS UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER. >> SO I MEAN. LESS THAN 45 DAYS AGO. >> IT IS IMPORTANT TO POINT THE THINGS OUT WE HAVE WORKED QUICKLY AND FAST AND WE DID A NICE JOBCH GETTING THE INFORMATION TO US. IT IS THE FIRST LOOK. I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO HAVE A SECOND OR THIRD. THIS IS KIND OF A MORE OF A RECEIPT OF, I WOULD BE HAPPY DOING SOMETHING ON THE 10TH WE HAVE TO GET THIS IN ON THE 1H BY THE 15TH AT THE LATEST. >> WHATEVER THE PLAN IS FINAL HERE THAT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORK THE COUNTY HAS THEN TO THE ELEC ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR AND MODIFY VOTING MAPS, ET CETERA. THEY HAVE TO HAVE THAT READY BY THE 13TH SO IF SOMEONE GOES TO SIGN UP TO RUN AGAINST WHOEVER IS UP THIS TIME THEY KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE AND WHO THEY ARE UP AGAINST. >> WE HAVE A COUNTY CLERK NOT AN EA BUT SHE IS IN CHARGE OF THE ELECTIONS. GOING BACK TO THE WEB SITE IT IS NOT THAT CONNIE CANNOT POST, YOU DO NOT POST WITHOUT -- IT IS HAVING A NEW STORY RUN ON A REEL WITHOUT AN ANCHOR. [01:20:01] WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS MAKE SURE JOSE PRODUCES FOR US THE INFORMATION THAT IS VERY CLEAR SO THAT YOU DON'T PUBLISH SOMETHING THAT IS MISINTERPRETED. FOR EXAMPLE. ALL THIS IS A FIRST RUN OF PRELIMINARY INFORMATION AND THERE IS A LEGEND AND LOTS OF EXPLANATION SO THAT'S WHAT CONNIE DOESN'T DO. THAT'S WHY THERE IS A NEED TO HAVE TIME. MAYBE THERE IS SOMEONE ON YOUR TEAM, JOSE, WHO CAN WORK. >> MAGGIE WAS APPOINTED A PIO FOR THE COUNTY. >> FOR EMERGENCIES. >> IT WAS TO BE A PIO, WE DIDN'T KNOW. SHE HAS THAT ABILITY I'M SAYING LET'S PUT IT ON. HOWEVER. >> YOU MAY MAGGIE YOU SAY ME IT IS IN MY OFFICIALS I'LL BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH JOSE TO GET THE INFORMATION ON THERE; THIS IS IS THAT THE PLANS. THEY NEED TO BE WATER MARKED SO THEY CANNOT BE -- THEY CANNOT BE COPIED AND LOOK LIKE SHOW THAT'S A FINAL MAP OR SOME SORT OF, DRAFT ON THE TOP CAN YOU GET IT OUT. >> AND YOU HAVE TO GET IT WE MAKE CHANGES ON THE 8TH AND TALKING ABOUT THERE WILL BE ACTION ITEMS THERE AND REDO AND BACK FOR ANOTHER LOOK SEE I GUESS ON THE 9TH. >> WE HAVE CONTEMPLATED AS MANY MEETINGS AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE AND HE'S NOW THAT HE HAS DONE THIS PIECE OF WORK. HE'S ABLE TO MEET WITH THE PUBLIC COLLECTIVELY. HE IS AVAILABLE AS WE HAVE SAID. BUT I THINK THAT PUTTING A CALENDAR TOGETHER. THERE ARE DATES APPROVED. MOVING FROM 5 TO 6 THE COURT CAN DECIDE TODAY. >> JUST IN RESPONSE, COMMISSIONER BRENT CHESNEY, THE REASON WE TALKED ABOUT THE 8TH AND THE 10TH. I HAVE ANOTHER HEARING ON THE 9. >> THE 10TH. >> WE HAVE ALREADY PUT FORTH. >> THAT'S BEEN CLEARED WITH ALL THE CALENDARS. WE HAD THAT FOUND FOR ALL OF TO US LOOK AT THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> WE DID HAVE -- I HAD A LOT OF CONFIDENCE. IN THE LAW FIRM. I'M GLAD YOU WENT TO THE RFQ PROCESS. AND WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE UNDER A LOT OF OTHER CONSTRAINTS AND THE PANDEMIC AND DEAL WITH. BUT MY INTENTION I BELIEVE OTHER'S INTENTION IS NOT TO CRITICIZE YOU BUT WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR THE MOST FAIR AND OPEN PROCESS WE CAN HAVEMENT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE , THE WEB SITE, WE WENT THROUGH THE REDISTRICTING WE USED THE WEB SITES. THAT'S WHAT I SEE THAT A WEB SITE AVAILABLE 24/7 SO THE WE'RE A SHIFT WORKER TOWN. PEOPLE WORK THREE SHIFTS CAN YOU GET UP AND IF YOU CAN NOT SLEEP WELL LIKE A LOT OF US CAN'T I GET UP BECAUSE I'M DREAMING ABOUT FAIR MAPSKY HOP ON THE WEB SITE. WHEN I ASK FOR A WEB SITE AND INFORMATION THAT'S THE MODEL THAT I'M WORKING OFF OF AND ON THAT WEB SITE A WAY TO MAKE %-ÚE CAN GET ON THE COMPUTER IT IS GOOD PEOPLE CAN BUT NOT EVERYONE CAN ESPECIALLY OUT IN THE RURAL AREAS. EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THE GREAT NUECES COUNTY LAY BARE. PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN BISHOP AND DRISCOLL WILL HAVE A HARD TIME. WE NEED THE TOOLS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> AND IF YOU NEED HELP, I'LL TAKE YOU UP ON THAT. CAN YOU ALWAYS USE EXTRA HANDS WHEN YOU'RE A TEAM OF TWO. TIM BOWLING. >>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE. I FEEL BETTER ABOUT THE PROCESS NOW T THAN I DID WHEN I CAME HERE. I HAD SOME REMARKS PREPARED I WILL DEVIATE FROM. THE FACTS HAVE CHANGED IN A POSITIVE WAY THE AND MY BROTHER [01:25:05] MR. GARZA ADD THE HARD WORK WHEN I SEE IT. I HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOU GOING FORWARD IN THE PROCESS. I WOULD HOPE THAT SOMEBODY WILL MAKE SURE THE MAP THAT I RECEIVED IS IN THE HANDS OF THE OVER AT THE RECEIVED IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, JUDGE, IF YOU HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE TOMORROW TO MAKE THIS KNOWN AND A COUPLE OF SUGGESTIONS FOR THE WEB SITE. WE HAD TO PUT THE FILE OF MR. GARZA PUT TOGETHER THERE. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF THEY WERE ENUMERATED IT WAS HARD TO FOLLOW. WHAT PAGE ARE WE ON. THAT WOULD BE GOOD. I HEARD A REFERENCE TO MAYBE I MISSED IT SOME PEOPLE ARE WONDER WHAT IS THE PARTISAN EFFECT OF THIS. AND SO I THINK THAT YOU WILL GET QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. SO THAT'S INFORMATION SEEMS EASILY AVAILABLE AND THIS WAY. AND INTEREST WAS THE VOTE IN 2020. PEEL WOMEN ASK ABOUT THAT. YOU OUGHT TO DO THAT. AND ON THE WEB SITE YOU OUGHT TO HAVE A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN PUBLICLY COMMENT. NOT EVERYONE CAN COME TO A MEETING. YOU HAVE TO SAY I DON'T LIKE A-2 BECAUSE -- THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. AND YOU DON'T WANT TO SHUT OUT PEOPLE FROM PROPOSING ALTERNATIVE MAPS. THERE MAY BE OTHER PEOPLE WHO DO HE SHOULD SAY AND SUBMIT A MAB. AND SUBMIT IT ON MONDAY GET IT IN BY 5:00 ON THE 7TH. SUNDAY. IT'S NOT A GREAT DAY. MOVE THE TIME BACK AT LEAST AN HOUR AND HAVE A FOLLOW UP MEETING. AND A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS ON THE EIGHTH. >> THIS A SMALL PLACE MAYBE DOING IT AT A LARGER VENUE. YOU NEED A LARGER SCREEN SO SOMEONE SAYS WHAT IF WE MOVE THE LINE HERE OVER LIKE YOU KNOW AND A STRAIGHTER NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK MR. GARZA CAN ANSWER BUT I THINK THOSE CAN BE DONE IN REAL TIME. CAN YOU SAY THAT WILL CHANGE. WE DO HAVE THE MEETING. MR. GARZA'S PRESENTATION TODAY WAS OUTSTANDING. THAT WOULD HELP A LOT WITH THE PUBLIC. I HOPE HE CAN GIVE HERE AND GIVE THAT PRESENTATION AGAIN. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 AND LET THE OTHER PEOPLE SPEAK TWO MINUTES IS A LITTLE SHORT FOR SOMETHING AS COMPLICATED AS A MAP AND THEN I THINK IF YOU WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR FINAL MEETING YOU HAVE P.M. MAPS UP AND YOU OUGHT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND FIND OUT FROM MR. GARZA ANY MORE LEGAL RISK ON THAT COMPARED TO THE EAR AND COME OUT AND PUBLICLY VOTE. BUT RETAIN THE OPPORTUNITY AT THAT MEETING TO DRAW, REDRAW THE LINES IN REAL TIME. I STILL THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE A REDISTRICT COMMISSION. AND KEEP THEM FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS, ADOPT A COMMISSION AND FORM THAT AND HAVE THE PEOPLE SELECTED BY SAYING MARCH, APRIL 1. GET THEM TO WORK AND GET ONE THING. AND WE STILL NEED LAWYERS IF MR. GARZA WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS. IF YOU ARE HAPPY WITH THE COURT NINE YEARS FROM NOWMENT TEN YEARS FROM NOW. LET'S ADOPT AN IRC THAT WILL BE EFFECTIVE IN APRIL 2030 SO WE DON'T HAVE THIS -- THIS YEAR AN AD HOC NOT PUBLISHED PROCESS. LET'S GET A PROCESS AND IMPLEMENT IT. OTHER THAN THAT I COMMEND YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING; THANK YOU. >>> AND BELL LINDA HAS A NICE OUTLINE. THIS IS YOURS. DOSE IT SPEAK. THIS IS NOT OURS, MAYBE WE'LL CREATE OUR TEMPLATE. THE CENTRAL JURY ROOM IT CAN HAVE IN-HOUSE SOCIAL DISTANCING. I USE IT ALL THE TIME AND WORKS WELL. AND IT HAS POTENTIAL AV [01:30:03] EQUIPMENT TO BE BROUGHT IN SO I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT SUGGESTION TO THE COURT SEE IF THAT MEETS WITH EVERYONE'S APPROVAL. NOW I THINK CENTRAL JURY ROOM 6:00, WE'LL HAVE TO PUT ON NOTICE HE LIKES TO LISTEN IN SO, DEPARTMENT HEAD AND CHIEF INFORMATION, IF YOU MAY THINK ABOUT HOW TO GET US THE RIGHT AUDIO-VIDEO IN THERE THAT COULD MEET THE SPECIFICATIONS AS FAR AS HOW DO I MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS ALL THE TIME ON ISSUES. KY OFFER OUR -- I CAN OFFER OUR OFFICE OF THE JUDGE AND CHANGE HOTLINES. WE HAVE DONE THAT ALL THE TIME WHERE PRESS FOUR TO LEAVE A COMMENT ON REDISTRICTING BUT WE CAN BE THE REPOSITORY FOR WRITING, YOU KNOW, FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WE CAN SET THAT UP VERY QUICKLY. >> MAYBE 5:30, THAT GIVES GIVES PEOPLE TIME. THAT'S GOOD. WE'LL GO AS LONG AS WE NEED TO GO. >> IF OF THAT MEETS WITH THOSE WHO REPRESENT THE PUBLIC'S INTEREST IS 5:30 SOUND OKAY? >> BETTER THAN 5 NOT AS GOOD AS 6. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ZOOM CAPABILITY THAT'S IMPORTANT PEOPLE THAT CANNOT MAKE IT THAT THEY HAVE THAT ABILITY. IF WE CAN CONNECT I SUGGEST CENTRAL JURY ROOM BUT IF THERE IS NOT THAT POSSIBILITY, I KNOW WE CAN AND WE RAN THE A FORUM IN THERE WITH ZOOM. I KNOW IT CAN BE DONE. >> I HAVE A ZOOM THAT NIGHT. >> IF YOU HAD TO LEAVE YOU COULD BE IN THERE. >> I'M GOING TO BE ON ZOOM. >> I MENTIONED THAT TO BEE LINDA THAT YOU HAD THE PHYSICAL QUORUM FOR THAT AS WELL. >> ONE OTHER THING I FORGOT. HELPFUL WHAT MR. GARZA IF WE HAD ONE PAGE FOR EACH OF THE MAPS THE NUMBERING OF THE MAPS 1 AND 2. THAT WAS CONFUSING. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. GET AWAY FROM GOES TO MAP 1, 2 -- THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION. >> WHEN YOU DO THAT SAY HERE IS MAP 1. HERE IS THE ETHNIC DATA AND PERSON DATA PUT IT IN ONE PAGE SAY IF I GO WITH THAT ONE THERE IS A DEVIATION. >> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. , ALL GREAT SUGGESTIONS. WE'RE HERE TO GET IT RIGHT. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT THINGS CRITICALLY. THAT DOES NOT EQUATE WITH NEGATIVE BUT LOOKING AT IT WHEN WE PRESENT IT OUT THERE TO THE PUBLIC IT IS IN ITS BEST FORM. I'LL KEEP GOING THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE HERE. THE NEXT ONE IS KATHERINE ELNOR BOLLED. >> JUDGE BARBARA CANALES AND COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK YET AGAIN TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT. I'M THE PRESIDENT LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS CORPUS CHRISTI AREA. WOW, THIS HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLE HEARING TODAY. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE LOOKED FORWARD TO AND ANTICIPATED IN ORDER TO MOVE THE PROCESS ALONG DECENTLY. WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPENNESS THAT WE HEARD TODAY ABOUT THE DISCUSSION AND THE CONVERSATION REALLY THAT ARE YOU FACILITATING TODAY. WE HOPE, I'LL KEEP THIS SHORT AND NOT READ FROM THE NOTES, WE HOPE THAT BECAUSE OF THE ABBREVIATED TIME THAT YOU ARE TAKING NOTES ON THIS TO CREATE A TEMPLATE FOR US FOR THE NEXT GO AROUND FOR 2030 SO YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN SO THAT, AGAIN. BECAUSE OF FAIRNESS AND TRANSPARENCY IN THE PROCESS THAT IS IMPORTANT AND VALUABLE THAT YOU HAVE NOTES THAT YOU HAVE A TEMPLATE FOR HOW TO DO THAT. WE KNOW THAT THE PANDEMIC AND BECAUSE OF THE LATE ARRIVAL OF CENSUS MATERIAL THAT IT HAS BEEN ABBREVIATED. WE'RE DISAPPOINTED THERE WAS NOT A TEMPLATE IN PLACE. THE STEPS THAT COULD MAKE THE PROCESS HAVE ALL OF THE MECHANICS BUT WE KNOW THAT WE CAN BE WHEN CALLED ON, WE CAN MAKE THINGS HAPPEN IN SHORT [01:35:03] ORDER. AND SOUNDS LIKE AN APPEARS LIKE WE'RE DOING THAT. >> WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING TO WHAT WE HAVE HAD TO SAY. WE HOPE THAT WE CAN HAVE OTHER PEOPLE AT THE HEARING ON THE 8TH BECAUSE WE SPEAK FOR THE LEAGUE BUT WE SPE SPEAKER FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF THOSE IN NUECES COUNTY. THEY ARE OUR PRIMARY CONCERN WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE FAIR MAPS AND CITIZENS AND THEN WE CAN SAY WE HAVE DONE THIS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. WE LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT IS NEXT. AND IF WE FOLLOW THE PROCESS THAT IT IS A GOOD MODEL FOR US TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS. AND BECOMEY MUELLER AND THE FORMER COMMISSIONER. MR. MARX I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN ABOUT YOU. YOU WILL ROUND US OUT. >> THANK YOU TO YOUR 2KEU8 GENERALS. I KNOW THAT I'M INHIBITED SO I WILL BE BRIEF AS WELL. I WANT TO REMACHINED YOU CONSIDER THE COMMUNITIES AND I LOVE THE WORD NEIGHBORHOOD INSTEAD OF COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST. CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU VOTE ON THE FINAL MAP COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE. AND THE BETWEEN THAT I WANT TO SAY THAT THE LEGISLATURE WAS NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST BUT THEY SPLIT NUECES COUNTY IN TWO PIECES. THAT'S DEPORABLE. YOU CANNOT FIX THAT I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY DON'T DO SOMETHING THAT IS STUPID OR DRASTIC IS A BETTER WORD T IS DECEMBER MORABLE WE HAVE TO NOW WORK WITH TWO SENATORS IN ONE LITTLE COUNTY NOT EVEN A HUGE COUNTY DON'T DO TO US WHAT HAPPENED IN AUSTIN ON THE SENATE MAPS, HOUSE MAPS AND CONGRESSIONAL MAPS. NOT ALL HERE BUT PLEASE LOOK AT US. PLEASE LISTEN IF WE CALL YOU AND LEAVE MESSAGES I HOPE YOU -- YOU SHARE IT WITH THE COMMISSIONERS. AND MR. GARZA AS WELL. BECAUSE WE CARE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN THE COMMUNITY. I WAS GONE FOR 15 YEARS. I CAME BACK THE DAY I RETIRED. AS A MAAS A MATTER OF FACT THE LAST THREE DAYS I STAYED IN A HOTEL BECAUSE THE FRANKFURT AIRPORT TOUR WAS ON THE WAY TO CORPUS CHRISTI. I HAVE AN VESTED INTEREST IF MY COMMUNITY AND OFFICIALS. MY FIRST ELECTION I WAS A BABY I COULD NOT VOTE BUT I GOT DRUG NO THE CAMPAIGN AND NEVER REGRETTED IT SINCE. I AM AN ADVOCATE FOR AND I REPRESENT ONLY MYSELF. BUT I CARE ABOUT EVERY MINORITY AND EVERY SENIOR, LIKE MYSELF, EVERY STUDENT AND BABY. PLEASE, DO FAIR MAPS AND DO A GOOD JOB. >> THANK YOU. >>> THANK YOU, BECKY. BECKY. >> COMMISSIONER, WELCOME; HE IS GOING TO GIVE YOU A SAFETY CLEANING THERE. >>> IT IS GREAT TO BE HERE -- TO BE HERE AGAIN. COUNTY JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS GREAT TO SEE YOU ALL, TOO. SITTING UP THERE I KNOW THAT YOU ALL GO THROUGH QUITE A BIT AND THE ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH AND THEY TAKE TIME TO MAKE THE PROPER DECISIONS I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK THAT YOU HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH THE MAPS I'M GLAD YOU GOT MR. GARZA AND --KY NOT READ MY WRITING. [01:40:06] >> THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP AS MR. GARZA SAID, WE ARE BECOMING A FOURTH COUNTY AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE AND THEY ARE REPRESENTED AND THAT YOU ALL LISTEN TO EVERYONE WHO COMES BEFORE YOU. I'M GLAD THAT YOU WILL HAVE MORE PUBLIC HEARINGS. I WAS ASKED TO SEE WHAT TIME THE NOVEMBER 10TH HEARING WILL BE. DO YOU HAVE? >> I WILL DESERVE TO -- >> IT WAS 1:30 FROM WHEN WE MET LAST MET THAT YOU HAD A PUT ASIDE THE 10TH AS A SECOND DAY FOR POTENTIAL INTERVIEWS YOU HAD INDICATED 1:30 AT THAT TIME. >> I'M CHECKING NOW, TOO. >> WHAT WE CAN DO IS. >> LOOK I'M TAKING FEVERISH NOTES WE MAY KEEP THE 1:30 AND REPEAT SOMETHING IN THE EVENING IF THAT IS AVAILABLE. WHAT I HAVE NOW IN MY MIND BECAUSE I LIKE A CHALLENGE. HERE WE GO. I'M MOVING FORWARD TO HAVING HAVING A PRESS CONFERENCE THIS AFTERNOON SO WE CAN OUTLINE EVERYTHING. I WANT TO MEMORIALIZE TODAY. WE HAVE A PRESSER AT 5:00 BUT GOOD FOR ME BECAUSE MAYBE THE MEDIA WILL JUST PIVOT. KY DO MAYBE A 5:30 OR 4:30 WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT BUT WE HAVE A CAPTIVE AUDIENCE WE'LL MEMORIALIZE WHAT WE DID AND TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AFTER POLLING THESE THIS COURT WHAT THE AFTERNOON AVAILABILITY IS. >> I'M GOOD THIS EVENING. >> I NEED EVERYONE TO CHECK. >> ARE YOU GOOD, WE HELD THAT IF WE NEEDED THAT. >> WE DON'T BUT IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT. BY THIS AFTERNOON YOU WILL HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF TIMES A PRESS RELEASE. AND MEDIA ADVISORY I NEVER DO ANYTHING WITHOUT MAKING 25 PHONE CALLS? WHY. EVERLY LEGISLATOR NEEDS TO KNOW, STAKE HOLDER. ORGANIZATION, DO YOU IT THAT WAY SO THAT EVERYONE GETS THE INFORMATION THE SAME TIME WE WILL DO THAT THIS AFTERNOON TO GET US PREPARED. AND THE WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IT IS NOT LIKE WE UP LOADEDMENT WE NEED A BUTTON, AND THERE ARE THINGS WE ARE ADA. WE WILL WORK TOGETHER TO GET THAT AND OUTLINE IT IN A FORMAL WAY TAKING YOUR COMMENTS I NEVER HEARD IT DESCRIBED THAT WAY. WHEN YOU SAID IT WE'RE A SHIFT WORKER OR JULIE SAID IT. JULIE SAID IT WE'RE A SHIFT WORK COMMUNITY THAT HAS TO DO WITH HEALTH CARE AND INDUSTRIAL THE TWO BIGGEST AND STUDENTS. STUDENTS ARE SHIFT WORK IN A DIFFERENT WAY. THOSE ARE THE INDUSTRIES HERE WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE WORKFORCE IS CONTAINED. AND I WOULD HEAR WHAT YOU SAY AS BEING VERY ACCURATE. WE NEED OUR SHIFTS AS WELL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AND, AGAIN. TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT EDUCATION THAT'S NOT THE COMMISSIONER'S AREA YOU MAY HAVE AN INFLUENCE ON THAT. WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED, AGAIN, CONTINUING WITH VOTING RIGHTS. MAKE SURE THEY ARE, SHE WANTS TO YOU GET CLOSER: SORRY, CONNIE. I HAVE A VERY SOFT VOICE I'M TRYING TO GET OVER THERE. SO IT IS IMPORTANT WE NEED TO DO THE RIGHT THINGS. WE WANT TO KEEP OUR YOUNG PEOPLE HERE. THAT'S IMPORTANT. DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO BE FAIR AND TRYING TO BE GET OUT THE INFORMATION IS WONDERFUL. DO THAT FOR ALL OF YOU IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE COMMUNITY KNOW WAS IS GOING ON. NUECES COUNTY NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. WE NEED TO GET OUR PEOPLE INVOLVED BECAUSE, AGAIN. THAT'S THE WAY WE MAKE THINGS HAPPEN LET THEM KNOW WHAT IS [01:45:03] GOING ON. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DID AND THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT. >> I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE PUBLIC OUR COMMENTS BEING MADE PUBLIC. I WILL ISSUE A THOUGHT GET OUR WRAOEUFRPBLG AS WRITTEN COMMENTS TO MR. GARZA KNOW WE'LL PUBLISH THOSE AT THAT HEARING SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE WHAT WE SAID IN WRITING OUR THOUGHTS SO THAT YOU CAN SAY I ADOPT A OR I ADOPT COMMISSIONER MAREZ BUT THINK ABOUT THIS TWEAK OR SIMS YOU NEED A STARTING PLATFORM. THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO START. OKAY, SUPER. AND I HAVE NO FURTHER INDICATORS THAT I HAVE SOMEBODY HERE BUT FOR BRANDON MARX. MR. MARX, AS THEY SAY IT'S YOUR TURN. IF YOU UNMUTE WE WELCOME TO YOU COMMISSIONER'S COURT. THANK YOU FOR HANGING WITH US. >> NO, MIME' BRANDON MAX I WISH I COULDING THERE IN PERSON I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN VIRTUALLY. I LIVE IN CORPUS CHRISTI AND 319 ROSE BUD AVENUE AND I HAVE COME HERE TO STAND WITH THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS AND ALL THE REPRESENTATIVES IN THE ROOM IN THE PUSH FOR TRANSPATIENCE PROCESS AND FAIR MAPS, I WANT TO ADD MY VOICE AS WELL TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PUSHING FOR AN INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING PROCESS AND COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MAPS NOW OR IF IT IS NOT POSSIBLE A TIME LINE IN THE FUTURE ARE TAKING POLITICS OUT OF THE EQUATION. AND I WANT TO PUSH FOR A REAL PARTICIPATE TORRE PROCESS AND -- PARTICIPATE PISS TORRE PROCESS PAR PISS PA STORY AND END UP WITH FAIR MAPS; THANK YOU, MR. MARX. >> THAT CONCLUDES THE SIGNUP BUT DOES NOT HAVE TO CONCLUDE THE HEARING THIS IS A TIME FIME FOR ME TO IF YOU WANT TO CLOSE THIS OUT, JOSE, YOU HEARD A LOT OF GREAT COMMENTS. WE CERTAINLY WOULD YOUR REM REMARKS OR ANY COMMISSIONER SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. >> SO, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP YOU. I HAVE BEEN TAKING NOTES ON THE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AND THE COMMISSIONERS. WE WELCOME ANY SUGGESTIONS MOVING FORWARD. I WILL TRY TO SEE. I THINK IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE A MAPPING COMPUTER WITH US FOR THE MEETINGS OF THE 8TH AND THE 10TH SO THAT WE CAN CALL UP THE PROGRAM IF THERE ARE TWEAKS THAT YOU SUGGESTED. I WILL LOOK INTO THAT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE PROCESS. >> I APPRECIATE MR. DOWLING FOR SHARING THE WEB SITE AND THE RESTRICTING PROCESS FOR THE STATE AND CONGRESS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE SYSTEM BUT ON A REGULAR BASIS TO SEE ADD WHEN IT IS FAMILIAR AND BLOWS UP. CAN YOU GO DOWN AND THE STREET LEVEL AND CAN YOU LOOK EIGHT MANIPULATE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IS AT STAKE BECAUSE I THINK TODAY IS A GOOD PROJECTS BUT WE DO NEED TO GET DOWN -- WE NEED TO GET DOWN TO THAT. IF WE GET ANY PUBLIC INPUT WE NEED MAPS THAT ARE PRESENTED. AND YOU KNOW THAT WOULD BE GREAT. AND THAT YOU GIVEN US AND THAT'S A GREAT LINK. AND JOSE, IF YOU CAN GET US THE ONES THAT YOU. YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT WE I GOT WHEN I WAS GLANCED OVER AND QUICKLY. [01:50:07] WE CAN TAKE THAT. LEND ME THE EASELS. THE WOMEN'S LEAGUE OF VOTERS WE HAVE A PRINT SHOP DOWN STAIRS. WE CAN GLOW UP EVERYTHING THAT WE THINK IS IMPORTANT AND TELL THE STORY IN THE BEST PLACE I KNOW, WHICH IS THAT AREA THAT'S A PUBLIC SPACE, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, IT IS STILL COMPLIES ABOUT. AND COMING INTO DO EVERYTHING THERE. THEY ARE HERE TO EAT AND PAY MOTOR VEHICLE, G GETTING THINGS HERE. IF YOU HELP, JOSE WE WILL TELL THE STORY FOR ANYONE TO SEE. IT MAZE HAVE HURT US IN THAT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO HURT THE ADVERTISEMENT, YOU DON'T REMEMBER IT WAS HERE AND A WHILE BACK WE DID THE AND THE SAME FASHION I THANK WOULD MAKE IT. THIS IS THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE T AND WE CAN MIMIC IT. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE PAPER. LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T READ THE PAPER AS THEY DO ONLINE. WE GO DIGITAL AND IN THE COURTHOUSE. THOSE THREE MECHANISMS AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO CALL IN OR LEAVE A WRITTEN COMMENT HOW OLD BRING IT HOME FOR THE HOPE PROCESS. >> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE ONE AND MY THOUGHT WOULD BE BECAUSE I COMPARE IT, I THINK TIS IS A I CALL IT QUASI PUBLIC HEARING. I WOULD LIKE TO WE TONIGHT DO A FINAL VOTE UNTIL THE 10TH SO WE HAVE THE COMPLETE HEARING SO EVERYONE HAS OPPORTUNITY AND NOT VOTE UNTIL THE 10TH. >> I THINK WE VOTE AFTER EVERYONE HAS HAD A SAY. >> AND BEING TRANSPARENT. AND ANYTHING ELSE. JOSE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ONE THING, JUDGE. >> AND I THOUGHT HE WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING. COMMISSIONER COULD YOU TURN ON YOUR VOID FOR US. GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER GONZALES. >> I WANTED TO THINKER WHO SAY AND THE FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. AND I -- I THINK I MENTIONED THE LAST TIME. I WAS HERE THE LAST TIME IT HAPPENED. I THE WAY IT HAPPENED. I WAS ADAMANT THAT WE VOTED RFQS. WE TOOK MORE TIME TO IT. IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. I EXPLAINED THE LAST TIME. I WILL GO FOR IT THIS TIME. >> IT WAS THE BEST THING I COULD HAVE DONE. I THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT WE HEAR YOU AND WE MOVE FORWARD AND THE PUBLIC THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING IT AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE GETS A CHANCE TO VOTE THE WAY THEY WANT TO VOTE. SO, I WANT TO THANK YOU AND THANK YOU AND YOU MADE THE TRIP HERE ON THE RUSH AND COMMEND YOU FOR THAT. AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONERS WE'LL MOVE ON AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME. >> I WANTED TO RECAP AS FAR AS WAY HEARD AS FAR AS THE TIME LINE GOES. SO WHAT I'M HEARING FOR THE TIME LINE MEETING ON MONDAY, JUH SUBJECT TO CON FIR NATION THE [01:55:01] ZOOM AVAILABILITY AND MEETING ON JUNE 10TH. >> NOVEMBER 10TH. AND NOVEMBER 8TH. AND NOVEMBER 10TH ON WEDNESDAY TO AGAIN HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING AND DO A FINAL VOTE ON THE MAPS. >> JUST TO, 1:30 AND 6 ON THE 1. WE SAID THAT. >> THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO CONFIRM WITH YOU. WE'RE MEETING AT DOING A PUBLIC HEARING IN THE EVENING ON THE 1H OR DO ALL OF THIS AT 1:30? >> I'M FINE WITH 5:30. >> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAD THE RIGHT TO VOTE. I WANTED TO THINK THEM. , WE'LL DO NOTICES IN THE PAPER. THEY HAVE A IF WE GET CON FIR NATION WE CAN RUN IT IN THE PAPER ON SUNDAY. NOVEMBER 8TH AT 5:30 AND NOVEMBH AT 5:30 ALSO. >> I THINK THAT IS -- ARE YOU GOING TO, I THINK LIKE I SAID FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PRESS RELEASE WE'LL MEMORIALIZE THAT IN AN E-MAIL SO I CAN TRANSFER IT. >> SUPER, GUYSMENT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WILL CLOSE AT 10:59 AND GAVEL US BACK INTO REGULAR MEETING AT 10:59. WE'LL MOVE TO GENERAL INFORMATION REPORTS. THERE WILL BE A TRANSITION IN THE COURTROOM LETTING SOME PEOPLE GO AND NEW ONES COMING IN. WE'LL CALL ON GARRETT. WHO WAS HERE. CAN I ASK JUST A HOUSEKEEPING. , WE HAVE 3 THROUGH 7 BUT WE HAVE SHOULD WE WAIT THAT WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT SINCE WE'RE HIRING THIS. CAN WE TABLE THAT. >> WE CAN'T DO THAT AND EXPECT TO PAY PEOPLE BY THE END OF THE YEAR LET ME HAVE DALE SPEAK TO THE TIME TABLE HERE. IT IS SETTING UP A PROCESS. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. >> SORRY, I HEAR YOU AND I THINK WHAT ARE YOU. WE'RE SETTING UP A PROCESS. >> WE'RE RIGHT SO YOU KNOW. >> WE HAVE A CPA ALL THEY WILL DO IS MAKE SURE THAT THE PROCESSES ARE FULFILLED. >> I'LL WAIT. I DIDN'T MEAN TO GET INTO A DISCUSSION. >> WE CAN ACHIEVE BOTH. I'M GIVE YOU A CRYSTAL BALL AND [1. Discuss disaster preparedness and response, including matters related to COVID-19, Emergency Orders, severe weather, flooding, drainage, economic recovery, state and federal assistance, and infrastructure status, and other related matters.] WHAT YOU NEED AND WHAT. GARRETT WELCOME. I'LL MOVE TO THE GENERAL INFORMATION REPORTS. G-1 IS HERE TO GIVE THE COURT A UPDATE ON OUR DISASTER THE RECOVERY AND RESPONSE WHEREVER IT IS APPLICABLE AND MATTERS TO ALL THINGS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. >>> GOOD MORNING I WANT TO REPORT TO YOU THAT WE DID HAVE A CHANCE FOR HEAVY RAINS TODAY AND TOMORROW. UP TO 1-2 INCHES ACCUMULATION IN THE AREAS OF THE COUNTY THAT DO NOT DRAIN WELL 2 INCHES CAN BE A PROBLEM. YOU NEED TO BE AWARE AND WATCHFUL. THE TROPICS GLAD TO TELL ARE YOU RELATIVELY QUITE AT THIS TIME AND NOTHING THAT WOULD IMPACT THE REGION FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. WITH REGARD TO THE COVID, I WOULD LIKE TO, AND WE HAVE EXTENSIVE REPORT ON THAT FROM [02:00:02] LUIS WILMONT. NUMBERS AND THINGS I WILL WAIT UNTIL THE 17TH, I HAVE THE HEALTH DIRECTOR WILL BE HERE TO GIVE -- GIVE MORE TIME TO SEE WHAT BOOSTER SHOTS HAVE DONE AND MORE EXTENSIVE NUMBERS. I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO DEPTH. I WILL SAY SO FAR THE MALAND THE VACCINATION SIDE AT ROBSTOWN, AND WHAT WAS THE STORE THERE AND I WAS TOOLED THEY -- TOLD THEY ARE AVERAGING OVER AND THE MAJORITY ARE BOOSTER SHOTS. I THINK IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE THAT GOES NOW THEY ARE AVAILABLE AND ESPECIALLY THE MODERNA. I WANT TO REMIND YOU AND THE PUBLIC THAT NUECES.COM IS THE PLACE TO GO TO GET THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE SITES AND TESTING SITES. , WE HAD DONE A REQUEST FOR A TRAIL THEY'RE HAD BEEN THAT WAS THIS PAST WEEK WAS TAKEN BACK. THE TWO NEW TRAILERS HAVE BEEN REPAIRED. THEY ARE IN GOOD WORKING ORDER THEY WILL BE USED AS NEEDED. FINE YACHTLY A COUPLE OF TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES THEY WILL BE TOMORROW AND A EXERCISE THAT WE WILL AND BEING VIRTUAL WE WILL NOT AND YEAR THEY WERE HOSTED, WE'RE SIMULATING COMING THROUGH AND CAUSING CATASTROPHIC DAMAGE BECAUSE OF THE DAMAGE THAT DUMPED SO QUICKLY IT SLOSHES INTO THE BAY. MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS FLED TO BE INVOLVED ELECTORAL, ALL LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL AND THIS WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY AGAIN TO WORK WITH THE PARTNERS AND AND AND 6:45. AND AND IT IS CALLED THE AND IT IS HOSTED FOR IT AND GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR OFFICE AND TO BECOME WE PISS HER FOR THE WEEK SEE. AND ADD WOULD YOU COME WITH ME TO THE PRESSER TODAY WE HAD A ADD PIE INFORMATION HERE HERE IT IS, AND ONCE THE COMMITTEE MAKES THE DECISION, AND MAKE AS DECISION AT 815 MORNING AND DO VACCINES HERE. AND THAT'S FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS AND GETTING BUT JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS THAT IS PFIZER AND IT WILL BE AVAILABLE AND [02:05:03] OPPORTUNITY FOR PARENTS WHO WANT TO HAVE THE CHILDREN VACCINATED AND LIKE THE ADULT IT IS YOU HAVE A SERIES AND THREE WEEKS APART AND 10 MICROGRAMS AND TODAY WE WILL MAKE THIS ANNOUNCEMENT GIVE YOU A HEADS TUP IS IMPORTANT AND TO GET THE THIS INFORMATION AND THE VACCINES NOW AVAILABLE AT ALL PUBLIC HEALTH, I WILL BE THERE. AND THE 5:00. >> ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING ANY OF THAT YOU WILL SEE THAT IN THE FEED SOON. REACH OUT TO GARRETT HE CAN HELP WITH THAT I WILL COPY AND PASTE THAT. WHAT DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ANYTHING TO EXPAND ON? , I WOULD LIKE TO COVER H 1 AND [1. October 18, 2021] THE MINUTES OF OCTOBER 18TH 2021. IF THERE IS ANY -- >> SO MOVED. >> THANK YOU. >> SECOND. >>> A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE 18TH AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. [1. In recognition of the month of November as Alzheimer's Awareness month.] >> AND THE PROCLAMATIONS AND ORDER AND NOVEMBER IS PURPLE THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. IT IS NOVEMBER AND THE RESOLUTION AND THE MEMORIES AND PREYINGIVE MENTAL AND PHYSICAL IMPAIRMENTS AND NO KNOWN TREATMENTS TO PREVENT, CURE OR THE ON SET OF THE DISEASE AND ESTIMATED 5.8 AMERICANS ARE LIVING WITH ALZHEIMER'S AND INCLUDING 400,000 IN TEXAS. AND ALZHEIMER'S IS THE SIXTH LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH IN THE U.S. AND THE FIFTH LEADING CAUSE AMONG THE ELDERLY AND ACCORDING TO THE ALZHEIMER'S ASSOCIATION FACTS AND FIGURES THE COST OF CARRYING FOR THOSE TO AMERICAN SEAT IS VALUED AND 16 MILLION CARE GIVERS AND 1818.6 BILLION OF CARE FOR THOSE WITH ALZHEIMER'S N TEXAS OVER 1 -- IN TAMPA OTHER 1.4 MEMBERS CARED FOR PEOPLE WITH ALZHEIMER'S AND OTHER DEMENTIA PROVIDEING 1 .6 BILLION HOURS OF UNPAID CARE WITH THE VALUE OF THE CARE GIVING TOTALING 21.6 BILLION AND OF THE INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES AND FRIENDS AND CARE GIVERS WITH ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE AND RESEARCHERS WHO WERE AND THE ASSOCIATION TO RAISE FUNDS AND PROMPT AWARENESS AND OTHER DEMENTIA IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF HUMAN LIFE AND THOSE LIVING WITH THE ALZHEIMER'S AND CARE GIVERS. THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THE COURT OF NUECES COUNTY RECOGNIZES NOVEMBER 2021 AS ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE AWARENESS MONTH IN NUECES COUNTY AND FURTHER MORE WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE ALL OF THE CITIZENS OF NUECES COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE 2021 CORPUS CHRISTI WALK TO END ALZHEIMER'S ON NOVEMBER , 2021. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. >> WE ARE HERE ON BEHALF OF DEMENTIA FRIENDLY CORPUS CHRISTI. WE HAD DOCTORS HERE BUT THEY HAD ASSIGNMENTS THEY HAD TO LEAVE. THE FACE TO FACE WALK IS NOVEMBH AT WATER'S EDGE. AND THE ALZHEIMER'S WALK AT WATER'S EDGE. THEY ARE DIFFERENT WALKS. AZ IS ALZHEIMER'S IS THE MONTH. [02:10:03] AND DEMENTIA EDUCATES AND EMPOWER THE COMMUNITY WITH INFORMATION AND PERSON'S WE REDUCE THE STIGMA AND ISOLATION. WE PROVIDE EDUCATIONAL AND SUPPORT SERVICES TO PERSONS AND FAMILIES AND CARE GIVERS. AND THEY PLAY A ROLL. >> AND ON AGING WE BROUGHT SOME OF THE FLIERS AND WE HAVE A WEB SITE AND FACEBOOK PAGE AND A LOT OF THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY SO WE WILL BE LEAVING THEM HERE AND CAN YOU APPROVE THEM TO PUT THEM ON THE TABLE. IF ANYONE HAS INFORMATION IT IS ON HERE. >> THANK YOU. >> WHAT TIME ARE THE WALKS? >> , I BELIEVE THEY STARTED AT 8 AND I HAVE TO, AND ANY QUESTIONS FOR US. , WE SEPTEMBER AS AZ, WE WORK WITH DIFFERENT COMPANIES BUT WE CAN GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. , THIS HITS HOME YOU THINK TO YOURSELF THE YOU WILL REMEMBER THIS BUT SOME PEOPLE CANNOT REMEMBER. THAT IS PIPEFUL FOR THOSE THAT ARE SUFFERLE FROM MEMORY LOSS. AND AND WORKING ON THE YOU MAY NOT KNOW BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE MUSIC OF MICHIGAN AND WE AND WE FOR DISABILITIES IN THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK THAT THIS BRINGS IT HOME. AND THANK YOU I HOPE TO SEE YOU AT THE BALK AND THIS ONE LIKE I SAID AND THIS ONE IS PAINFUL FOR HE THOSE FOR THE COGNITIVE DISORDERS. >> CORPUS CHRISTI IS THE SIXTH CITY IN TEXAS TO BE DEMENTIA FRIENDLY SO THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW AND AND. AND PRESENTLY. AND I WAS LAUGHING YESTERDAY I HAD THE SHERIFF IN MY OFFICE AND I WAS TRYING TO GET IMUP TO SPEED MY HEAD WAS JUMBLED I SAW AN ACRONYM I THOUGHT IT WAS ARE ROPE BUT IT WAS ARE YOU OKAY? >> I COULD NOT FIGURE OUT WHAT IT WAS. HE SAID DON'T YOU MEAN ARE YOU OKAY, JUDGE? >> I DO. I WANT TO YOU KNOW THAT THE CONSTABLE, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO HIM. PROUD OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HE'S GOING TO BRING THEM BUT AND OTHER THAT IS TEAMING UP FOR ARE YOU OKAY IT WILL BE FRIENDLY TRAINED IN A WAY NOT. AND THEY ARE TERRIBLE. AND WE WANTED TO YOU KNOW AND THERE ARE MOMENTS UNLESS WE BRING IT. ARE YOU OKAY NOT, MAYBE CAN YOU COME BACK AND PUT IT ON THE YATE. >> I BELIEVE THAT HE AND HE WANTED TO AND THAT'S AN HOUR AND A HALF HE GETS A CERTIFICATE YOU RECEIVE THAT CLASS. WE TEACH THAT TO A LOT OF THE CLINICS AND THAT REQUEST IT. WE COME OUT AND WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PREPARATIONS THAT ARE AMAZING AND AND YOU HAVE THAT TALK ABOUT AND IT IS NEAT. [02:15:02] >> WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> WE PREACH YOU VERY MUCH. >> AT THIS POINT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AND THANK YOU. WE'LL GET A COPY OF THAT, DO THEY TAKE THEIR, WE HAVE A SIGNED FORMAL COPY AND MAKE SURE IT IS NOT IT. >> IF YOU WILL WAIT A MOMENT. AND OKAY. GIVE, WE'LL PROCEED TO BOARD APPOINTMENTS THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING AND MOVE YOUR PACTS TO THE AREA AND THEY ARE DISTRICT APPRAISAL. AND SERVICES ADVISORY AND AIRPORT ADVISORY. WE'RE READY. OR THEY WILL GET THAT. >> THANK YOU. AND AS THEY SAY UP PACK THE FORWARD. SOME ARE REAPPLYING. NUMBER ONE THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD OF MANAGERS. >> AND SO THE DISTRICT BOARD HAD TWO MEMBERS THAT THE TERM WAS ENDING AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER. THAT'S DANIEL DANE AND JOHN VALLS. THEY DID SUBMIT THEIR LETTERS OF INTENT TO BE REAPPOINTED. >> MOTION TO RECRUIT. >> A MOTION TO -- REAPPROVE. REAPPOINT. I KNEW THAT, I SAID -- OBJECTION. >> THE MOTION TO REAPPOINT. >> SECOND. A MOTION AND A SECOND, SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> AND ALL THOSE OPPOSED. >>> ALL RIGHT. [1. Nueces County Hospital District Board of Managers] CAN COMMISSIONER -- BOARD MANAGER I GUESS IT IS BOARD APPOINTEE. JOHN VALES IS HERE. WE WILL SEND OUT A LETTER REGARDING YOUR REAPPOINTMENT. AND DANIEL DANE IS THE OTHER. HE SERVES AS THE CARE. WE'LL HAVE A FEW COMMENTS. AND LIKE THE AND. HE HAD AN APPOINTMENT HE SENDS HIS REGRETS. SEASON AS APPRECIATIVE AS I AM. WAY CONTINUE DOING THE WORK OF THE DISTRICT. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU. NUMBER 2 IS THE APHRASAL BOARD OF DIRECTORS. IS THAT YOUR PACKAGE? NUMBER 2, WE HAVE THE BOARD OF [2. Nueces County Appraisal District Board of Directors] DIRECTORS. >> MOVE APPOINTMENT. IT IS GABBY. A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR THEN WE HAVE. [3. Nueces County Animal Services Advisory Board] NUECES COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD. >> YOU HAVE THREE TERMS THAT EXPIRED AND ONE RESIGNATION. SO YOU HAVE FOUR OPENINGS TOS AND THE WE RECEIVED TWO APPLICATIONS AND REAPAYMENT AND WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THE REAPAYMENT. AND THE NEW APPOINTEE. I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A VET THAT IS INTERESTED. THE BOARD IS OPEN UNTIL FILLED WE'LL LEAVE THAT. AND WE'LL ASK YOU TO DO THE, IS THERE A MOTION? [02:20:09] >> AND NINFA ACUNA. , SAY AYE. , AND MISS ACUNA SHE IS AN OFFICIAL. I KNOW ON THE LIST, HER NAME HAS A SIGNYO ON THE LIST ON THE THAT'S PART OF THE ATTACHMENT. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> WE'LL MAKE THOSE AND RECIRCULATE. >> EXCITING ABOUT GETTING A VET. WE'LL THANK YOU YOU ONCE WE GET YOUR APPLICATION. THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANTED A LONG TIME I'LL MOVE TO 4. >> I THOUGHT WE DID THEM AND NOW JOHN MCBRIDE. YES, SIR. A SECOND. SAY AYE. IT IS A LITTLE MORE FORMAL THERE. >> THAT'S JOHN MC BRIDE. [4. Nueces County Airport Advisory Board] THAT WAS OPENED AND CLOSED ON NOVEMBER SECOND. YOU HAVE THREE AT-LARGE POSITIONS AND MR. DALTON RESIGNED. THAT IS OPEN AS WELL AS PRECINCT 2. MENT WE RECEIVED TWO APPLICATIONS THAT WERE SPECIFIC FOR AT-LARGE AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE -- >> JUDGE I WANTED TO NOMINATE. >> AND IF WOULD YOU HOLD ON BECAUSE THE AT-LARGE IS WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. >> WE RECEIVED 4 APPLICATIONS. AND THEY WERE SPECIFIC THEY WERE APPLYING FOR THE AT LARGE POSITION THEN WE RECEIVED THAT THEY RESIDE IN 4 AND, I MOVE MOVE REAPPOINTMENT ON THE AT-LARGE AND THE AND FORGIVE ME. , AND I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AND THEN WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A NOMINATION FOR. >> , CAN WE PUT TERRY MILLS? WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. AND, AND THAT IS YOUR. >> HANG ON. >> A MOTION AND. AND AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY T IS WITHIN OUR PER VIEW THAT IS A SPOT TO CREATE A MEMBER AND KILL TWO BIRDS ADD THIS WAS OPEN WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY MAYBE LIKE AN, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> AND THERE IS ALREADY TWO THAT WE REAPPOINTED AT LARGE. , WE COULD AND WE CAN ADD AND THE REASON HE DID NOT GET IT ON TIME. HE IS A USER OF THE FACILITY AND UNDERSTANDS AIR AND AVIATION. IF WE CAN CONSIDER THAT. THAT WOULD BE A WIN-WIN, YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WAS IF YOU. [02:25:10] AND THEN BROUGHT IN THAT IF THERE IS NOT THE THIRD. WELL MR. CLAW SEN. I AM TRYING TO BE CREATIVE AND INCLUDE PEOPLE WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE DO IS VOTE ON MR. MILLS AND THE AT-LARGE POSITION AND PUT IT ON THE 17TH AGENDA TO CREATE THE POSITION AND NAME HIM. >> THAT WOULD GIVE US A CHANCE TO VERIFY THAT. IT IS AVAILABLE BUT I. >> AND. HE INDICATED THAT HE WANTS TO PARTICIPATE. >> THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ADVISORY IN THE PRACTICAL MATTER OF GETTING THE RECOMMENDATIONS, I WOULD, WE APPOINT TERRY MILLS AND INCLUDE IN THAT, THAT'S A GOOD MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL RIGHT WE DID GOOD WORK [2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.] THERE. >> WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE LOOK AT A THROUGH AND AND CONCERNS A AND C. >> NO. >> HOLD ON. MY BAD. >> NO IT WAS JUST A. >> IS THERE A MOTION A AND H. AND L. M AS IN MARY. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINING ITEMS B THROUGH G. I THROUGH K. >> SO MOVED. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. LET'S TAKE THEM IN ALPHA [A. Authorize payment of bills - regular bill summaries dated October 20, 2021, and October 22, 2021.] ORDER. ADDRESS A AND I THINK YOU PULLED H. >> , A QUESTION ON A CHECK. AND THERE IT IS. >> AND TO GLOBAL SPECTRUM FOR COUNTY LEGAL EXPENSES OTHER. AND, DALE THAT'S 229 -- OCTOBERD , CHECK REGISTER GLOBAL SPECTRUM. >> I THINK THAT WAS A TYPO THAT DIDN'T GET CORRECTED. IT WAS THE. THEY WOULD REVISE THAT. WHAT IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE FOR? >> I DON'T KNOW THAT SPECIFICALLY. IT WAS NOT LEGAL. >> LET ME FIND THAT WE'LL GET THAT RECTIFIED I WOULD PULL THAT ONE FOR DISCUSSION. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR ME. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. IF IT TURNED OUT THROUGHOUT THE MEETING THAT YOU GET THE ANSWER, BRING IT BACK TO ME. >> EVERYTHING BUT THE ITEM. >> AUTHORIZING THE PAYMENT; ALL ITEMS BUT THAT ONE HAVE BEEN PAID. , JUST A QUESTION; DALE ARE WE PAYING THESE THINGS IN ADVANCE? I'M CONFUSED. BUT THERE -- W >> BECAUSE OF THE TIME BETWEEN THE COURT WHERE WE HAVE A QUICK RELEASE AND SIGN OFF AS THE AUTHORIZING AUTHORITY THE MAJORITY OF MANY TIME THEY DO NOT GET DISPERSED. >> WHAT IS THE. >> ARE WE RATIFYING AND BILLS WAITING WHAT IS THE POLICY AND. [02:30:05] AND THE MOTION IS TO PAY. AND HOW DO WE NEEDED TO HAVE AND SOME LIKE I DON'T KNOW THE RULE AND WHY. AND GO OUT EARLY. IN THE PAST THAT THERE IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME COMMISSIONER'S COURT GETTING THEM PAID. AND WE SUBMIT THE REQUEST TO THE JUDGE AND EARLY RELEASED AND SIGN OFF ON THE RELEASE AFTER WE REVIEWED THE ITEMS AND THE FOR DISPURSEMENT. >> I DON'T. THEY COME TO ME I'M THE SIGNATORY IT IS COMING FROM THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE SOMEONE IS REQUESTING THIS IS AN IMPORTANT REQUEST, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS ONE BUT TERESA CAN SHED SOME LIGHT. >> IT HAS BEEN EARLY RELEASE WE'LL DO THAT; THIS IS CHECK REGISTERS THEY ARE DATED THE 20H AND 21ST OF OCTOBER THEY HAVE BEEN PAID. THAT WAS A T IS A COVID EXPENSE AND. >> IF WE'RE NOT VOTING TO APPROVE THEM WE'RE VOTING TO RATIFY WE NEED TO CLARIFY. LIKE YOU SAID T IS THE 22ND. THEY HAVE BEEN PAID AND RELEASED IT IS A RATIFICATION OF OR, IT'S A TYPO. >> FOR A COVID EXPENSE. , WHAT WAS THE COVID EXPENSE, DO YOU KNOW? >> THE NORMAL THINGS THEY DO. , USE THE MIC. >> THEY ARE NORMAL OPPOSITIONS -- OPERATIONS; WE PULLED THAT FOR LATER. WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IT'S NOT LEAK WE SAID A RATIFICATION. >> THE STAFF RUNS WE PROCESS THEM AND TRY TO HOLD THEM. HOWEVER S SOME TIMES IN THE OCTOBER PORTION WE DIDN'T GO FOR THREE WEEKS WE CANNOT HOLD THEM WITHOUT ACQUIRING INTEREST. AND SOME ARE RELEASED BY THE AUTHORITY OF THE JUDGE IF THE COURT WANTS TO CHANGE THE POLICY WE CAN WE CANNOT DISPERSE THEM UNTIL APPROVED BY THE COURT. >> ELUNLESS IT IS AN EMERGENCY IT SHOULD COME THROUGH THE COURT KNOWED AT BE DISPERSED. I WOULD THINK THIS IS -- >> I THINK -- >> TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE GOOD WITH IT. SO AND SAY THIS IS WHY IT NEEDS TO BE DONE SO THE JUDGE HAS THE ABILITY TO READ THAT AND MAKE A DECISION. >> THE IDEA IS TO SAVE MONEY. AND I CAN GIVE YOU. WE ARE ASKED TO MAKE BANK PAYMENTS. >> UTILITIES. YOU'RE FINDING ONE HERE WHEN THERE IS AN ENTIRE, NOT JUST ONE NEEDLE. THERE IS AN EFFICIENCY OF DOING BUSINESS IF YOU WANT SOME MORE DOCUMENT, AND SIGN THE CHECK I'M ON THE MINISTERIAL SIGNER TO MAKE SURE THE THEY HAVE NOTIFICATION A GREEN DOT T IS IMPORTANT. URGENT. I DO THAT ALL THE TIME. THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES AS A AGENT OF THE COUNTY I SIGN FOR AGENCIES. I THINK THAT YOU KNOW IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE WORDS. IT'S NOT PRESENTED TO YOU [02:35:04] BECAUSE IT HAS NOT BEEN VETTED. IT HAS BEEN VETTED. >> IF THERE ARE URGENT MATTERS TO BE PAID. FINE. SOMETHING THAT IS A UTILITY BILL. THAT CAN WAIT. USING THE EXAMPLES THAT YOU SAID, UTILITIES, THOSE THINGS CAN WAIT WE'LL NOT BE PENALIZED FOR THAT. HE THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING CALL IT RATIFICATION OR PAYMENT OF BILL. THERE SHOULD BE TWO CATEGORIES. AND THOSE THAT WE'RE RATIFYING. IF WE'RE VOTING THAT HAVE GONE OUT WE'RE NOT VOTING ON IT IN THE RIGHT MAN TER IS A TECHNICALITY. >> IT IS A MAJOR PROCESS. AND THOSE DOLLARS ARE RECEIVED FOR WE BUY SWABS. COULD BE A COVID-19 EXPENSE FOR VACCINATION FOR TESTING. >>> IT IS A PROCESS THAT NEEDS TO BE EXPLAINED MORE THOROUGHLY. WE NEED TO GET THAT COMMUNICATED. >> WHAT I'M SAYING -- >> THERE IS NOTHING OUT OF THE EXTRAORDINARY. >> PUT IT AS A RATIFICATION AND IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO HOLD THE CHECKS UNTIL THEY COME TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO PAY THAT IS THE PROCESS PROCESS. >> DALE HAS TO ADDRESS THAT. >> I'M MAKING A COMMENT. I WOULD NOT COME TO YOU T IS A COMMENT. DALE CAN -- IF WE CAN'T DO THAT, TELL US, OTHERWISE EVERYTHING SHOULD COME TO THE COURT FOR APPROVAL UNLESS THEY ARE URGENT. >> THAT'S THE POLICY. FYI; WE ESTABLISHED THAT WE HAVE A NEW SUPERVISOR THAT WILL OVERSEE ON BRINGING THEM IN FOR INTRODUCTION. THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT WE'LL ADDRESS AND THE CHECKS THAT CAN'T WAIT WILL AND REQUIRED TO NOTIFICATION WHY THE THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR A -- A FAST DATE. >> I MAKE THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION. >> AND ALL YOU'RE SAYING PUT UP BACKUP DOCUMENTATION? >> SAYING WHAT HE SAID WHAT HE SAID RIGHT THERE. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS. >> IT IS THROUGH THE OFFICE. THE AUDITOR SENDS IT TO THE JUDGE. THE JUDGE SIGNS OFF, THE AUDITOR IT SAYS EARLY RELEASE. IT DOES ON THE FORM THAT'S AN EARLY RELEASE. WE HAVE ONE THAT CAME THROUGH ON THE 29TH ON FRIDAY MORNING BEFORE THIS AGENDA WAS PUBLISHED THAT EASILY COULD HAVE GONE ON THE AGENDA FOR FRIDAY RELEASE INSTEAD OF EARLY RELEASE AND BEING ASKED TO BE PAID. IT IS A PROCESS. >> THAT'S WHAT THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE. I'M TRYING TO GET HERE IS I HAVE ZERO -- I MAKE NO REQUESTS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M, IT'S NOT MY OFFICE I'M TRYING TO HELP THE AUDITOR GET THINGS DONE THAT'S WHAT A GREEN DOT IS. SOMETIMES I'M NOT IN COURTHOUSE I COME BACK JUST FOR A GREEN DOT. >> I DID QUESTION IF I CAN HOLD ON THERE ARE SOME PAYMENTS I WOULD SAY IT HAD NOT BEEN APPROVED, THE CONTRACT WAS NOT APPROVED I TOOK IT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND SHE GAVE ME AN OPINION I HAVE TO RELEASE THEM. YOU HAVE TO SIGN OFF. [02:40:03] THE AUDITOR WILL CHANGE THAT PROCESS. >> THAT'S THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND SO TO REINFORCE IT'S NOT YOU. THERE IS A CHECK ON THE REGISTER TODAY TO ME I HAVE GOTTEN THAT HAD NOT BEEN APPROVED; THAT'S GOT -- CIRCUMSTANCES THAT A TRAVEL REQUEST. >> THAT COULD HAVE WAITED. , CONSENT AGENDAS IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS THERE IS THERE IS NOT. I WONDER THIS IF YOU DON'T APPROVE IT, THERE SHOULD BE A REASON, RIGHT? THERE HAS TO BE A REASON, YOU FIXED THAT. LOOK. MAGIC. WE HAVE FIXED IT. >> THE MOTION, NOT WE. >> AND SO CARA CAN GET IT. , THEY WERE ISSUED IN OCTOBER AND -- OCTOBER AND COMPLY WITH THE SUBMISSION THEY ARE AFTER THE COURT SO WE CANNOT GET IT ON THE COURT. WE RATIFICATION EARLY RELEASED AND WE'LL DISBURSEMENT HAVE NOT BEEN RELEASED. >> THE MOTION IS THAT ANY CHECKS THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT SHOULD NOT BE RELEASED UNTIL THEY ARE URGENT AND BACKED UP IN WRITING AND SUBMITTED TO THE JUDGE FOR HER APPROVAL? , I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM. WE DIDN'T NOTICE THIS. I THINK THE LANGUAGE IS FINE. WE'LL CLEAN THAT UP. >> AND -FSS -- SERVICES IN THE COURT. >> I MADE A MOTION HE SECONDED IT. CALL THE QUESTION. >> PROVIDING THE INFORMATION ON WHAT THIS WAS. >> THAT WOULD BE NICE AND CHANGE A PATTERN AND I'M ALL FOR IT. YOU KNOW THAT'S ALL. , WE NEED DOCUMENTATION ON THE VERBIAGE. >> SAY AYE. >> THANK YOU. , NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE REVISED CODE. >> AND THE CODE IS CORRECT. 2013-7 THAT'S THE CODE I BELIEVE AND CAN YOU SEE WHAT THE. AND 104. AND THAT IS SERVICES OTHER. SET UP AND TEAR DOWN THE ITEMS FOR THE DONE FOR THE TIME AND LABOR REQUIRED FOR THIS. THAT IS A -- TWO HOURS REQUIRED. ONE TO SET UP AND TEAR DOWN AND 1000 FOR THE DAY. $2000. ANY QUESTIONS WITH REGARDS TO THIS. THIS IS BACK WE'RE RENTING SPACE? >> TO SET IT UP IT'S NOT RENTED TO REIMBURSE THEM FOR THE LABOR SETTING IT UP. >> NOT TO RENT THE SPACE. THIS IS LABOR COST REIMBU REIMBURSEMENT. , THEY CHARGE US A THOUSAND A DAY AND TAKE DOWN THE LABOR. THERE HAS TO BE RENT IN THERE. [02:45:02] , THAT'S WHAT REARE DOING. THEY WERE CALLING IT RENT THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING AT THE FAIRGROUNDS. THE DESCRIPTION IS SETTING UP A POWER AND JANITORIAL SERVICES. >> ALL OF WHICH IS REIMBURSABLE UNDER OUR THANK YOU UNDER THE FEMA PA. >> THAT IS HIGH. THAT'S A CONTRACT WE HAVE WITH THEM I BELIEVE PER DAY WHEN WE USE THEM. , I WILL. YOU CAN GET MORE BACKUP BUT THE QUESTION IS THE WORK HAS BEEN PERFORMED. CAN YOU CLARIFY IF WE HAVE A WRITTEN AGREEMENT HOW MUCH THEY CHARGE? I REMEMBER THAT WE DO. >> BEFORE SETTING UP THE AGREEMENTS WITH THE FAIRGROUNDS AND SPECTRUM TO DO THE EITHER THE VACCINATIONS OR THE -- THE INFUSIONS WE'RE DOING TESTING AT THE FACILITY; WHEN WE DID IRT THERE WAS SIMILAR CONTRACT WORK. >> CAN YOU VOTE ON IT I'LL VOTE NO. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE DONE THIS. I UNDERSTAND THIS. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. THIS IS THE ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. >> WHAT IS THIS ONE HERE. >> THAT'S THE EXPENSE FROM THE INCORRECT TO CORRECT CODE. 54 TO 55 WHICH IS THE CORRECT EXPENSE CODE. >> THIS IS FOR, VOUCHER NUMBER SO AND SO. >> THE IMAGINE MANAGEMENT FROM THE LEGAL CONVERSATIONS TO THE CORRECT SERVICES WHICH IS SERVICES 53307 TO 55 AND A JOURNAL ENTRY TO MOVE THE EXPENSES TO THE CORRECT EXPENSE. >> WHAT IS THE 10,000. >> THAT'S THE BALANCE ERROR ON ANOTHER EVENT YOU SHOULD HAVE THE BACKUP ON THE REASON WHY IT WAS MOVED. 10,000 TO ADVERTISING IT WAS ADVERTISEMENT FOR DOING THE -- NOTIFICATION OF THE VACCINES AT THAT LOCATION. >> AND THAT WAS PAID TO SPECTRUM. 2000 TO SPECTRUM. >> 10,000. >> I'M NOT SURE THAT WAS SPENT THAT WAS A CORRECTION OF INJURY WE CAN BRING THAT TO YOU. >> THERE IS NO HARM. YOU THINK WE SHOULD NOT PAY THEM FOR THE WORK. YOU THINK THAT IS TOO MUCH? BECAUSE OF WHAT I -- >> IT SEEMS HIGH. >> I WANT TO SEE THE BACKUP. WHAT THEY DESCRIBED SEEMS LIKE A LOT FOR $1000 A DAY ON THE DESCRIPTION. >> I'M TRYING TO GET YOU WHAT YOU WANT. YOU WANT MORE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO EARN THE $1000. >> IF THERE IS A CONTRACT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE A CONTRACT OR WHAT THE -- WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS? >> YES. >> LET'S GET THAT FOR HIM FOR NH THAT IS NEXT IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. RAISING THE EYEBROW WHAT IS NEEDED FOR -- GLOBAL SPECTRUM IS THE THIRD PARTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY AND THEY NEVER TREATED THIS WITH FAIRNESS. WE'LL ASK THEM FOR THE JUSTIFICATION HOW THEY COME UP WITH THE COST. LET ME TELL YOU WHEN IT COMES TO THE OPERATION MULTIPLY BY 10 THE SETUP OF CONES AND BARRICADES IS A HUGE PROCESS THAT HAS MILES OF RADIUS IT IS NOT JUST LIKE ONE SPOT. WE'LL BRING THAT. WHY NOW SO WE CAN ADDRESS THE CONCERN ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING AT THE FAIRGROUNDS TO SAVE LIVES. >> IT IS IHEART MEDIA SO EVERYONE CAN KNOW. >> WHO WE PAYING. >>> I-HEART MEDIA. >> THEY -- IT IS A RADIO. >> THEY PLACE ADS ON ALL OF THEIR RADIO STATIONS SO THAT [02:50:01] THE PUBLIC CAN HAVE THAT INFORMATION AS TO, FOR EXAMPLE WHAT ENTRANCES WE'RE USING WHAT EXITS. ALL OF WHICH ARE IN KEEPING. >> IT DOES NOT SAY I-HEART. >> AND, THAT IS. >> COMMISSIONER BRENT CHESNEY IS SPEAKING. >> I DON'T HAVE THAT. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO LOOK AT BEFORE WE EXECUTED THAT OR SOMETHING ELSE? >> EMERGENCY SUPPLEMENTAL STUFF IN IT. >> I THOUGHT THERE WAS CONTRACT I WANTED TO LOOK AT. I WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE EVERYTHING. WHERE DID THAT COME FROM MAYBE I DIDN'T SEE THE E-MAIL HAVE NOT SEEN. THAT I MAY HAVE MISSED IT. >> WE'LL TAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE IT. >> MAY I SPEAK, JUDGE? >> WE'RE PAYING SPECTRUM TO SET UP AND DO THE OTHER THINGS. WHAT IS THE COUNTY PEOPLE DOING, I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE DOING HELPING TO SET UP? >> YES THERE ARE DIFFERENT LOGISTICS THAT GO ON WITH PRODUCING A MASS VACCINATION SITE AND GLOBAL SPECTRUM OWNS THAT SITE. EVEN THOUGH THE COUNTY MAY BE THE OWNER IN TITLE WHEN WE LEASE TO THEM, THEY'RE IN CHARGE OF THEIR OWN PREMISES THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO PUT THEIR OWN LABOR TO WORK TO CONTROL THE PREMISES. THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION THERE IS A DIVISION OF LABOR, THEY DO SOME SETUP. WE DO OTHER. IT DEPENDS. IF WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THE PLAN WE HAVE A PLAN WE CAN SHOWCASE I'LL BRING NEXT WEEK WHETHER OR NOT IT IS WORTH $1000 TO MAKE SURE THE MASS VACCINATION SITES HAVE EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED FOR PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY. , THAT'S FINE I WAS NOT SURE WHO WAS DOING RIGHT. >> EDWARD IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO THE MASS VACCINATION SITE AND HE DOES A LOT OF WORK AND WE'RE GOING TO GET YOU THAT PLAN SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT HE'S IN CHARGE OF AND HE IS DOING VERSUS GLOBAL SPECTRUM. WE CAN BRING THAT. I SUGGESTED NOVEMBER 17TH TO GIVE US ADEQUATE TIME. >> THAT IS GOOD, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>> SO, HAVING SAID THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO H. [H. Authorize execution of agreement with Collier, Johnson & Woods, P.C. for RFP No. 3175-21 Certified Public Accountant for Assisting with Administration of American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds.] >> AND ON H A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THE LETTER OF ENGAGEMENT ON THE FRONT ANY IRREGULAR LAIRTIES IN THE COURSE OF WORK WILL BE COMMUNICATED. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO THAT. THAT WAS ALL I WANTED TO ADD THERE. BEFORE WE PASSED IT. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE, I WAS -- I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE INITIAL COST NOT TO EXCEED COST CAME FROM. WHO SUGGESTED THE AUDITOR MAYBE BUT WHERE WE CAME UP. THAT'S NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT. THEY ARE DIFFERENT WE NEED THIS. LET ME SAY THAT AND SPENDING ARPA MONEY. IF YOU WHERE THE 400,000 CAME FROM ON A LITTLE MORE REGULAR BASIS. THE ARPA FUNDS THROUGH 2024 WE FIGURED OUT ADD THE POSSIBILITY OF THE CONTRACT AND THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME WE HAVE IT DONE AROUND $100,000 A YEAR. NOT TO EXCEED 400,000. >> SO, WE HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY BY? >> 2026. SO, I MIGHT SUGGEST SO WE AS A COURT CAN CONTINUE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THIS. THIS NUMBER TO REDUCE IT AND COME BACK AND THAT WAY THE COURT SEES THESE AND LOOKS AT IT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THE MONEY. [02:55:02] I THINK THAT YOU ARE RIGHT THE NUMBER IS GOING TO BE IN THAT RANGE. AND YOU HAVE NOT EXPLAINED IT BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND MORE INFORMATION OUT OF THE WINDOW THAT YOU ARE CONTRACTING WITH AND I WOULD SAY ON THIS ORIGINAL ONE THAT WE REDUCE THAT ORIGINAL NOT TO COMPETE 250. AND THEN WE CAN BRING IT BACK AS NEEDED BECAUSE THAT GIVES YOU A COUPLE OF YEARS BASED ON THE NUMBER WHERE WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WAIT. IF IT IS 150 A YEAR. AND TIME. THAT'S MY SUGGESTION THERE. >> I'M OKAY WITH IT. AND AND I'M OKAY WITH 250,000. AND AND ADDRESS THIS WILL BE THE START A COSTLY BECAUSE IT IS A LONG. AND LIKE WE SAID WE EXPECT THEM AND THE ARPA FUNDS. AND WE RENEW THE CONTRACT WE RENEGOTIATE THE BALANCES. I MAKE A MOTION BE ADDED IDENTIFIED IN THE COURSE OF THE COUNTY JUDGE AND AUDITOR AND COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND CHANGING NOT TO EXCEED 450,000. >> SO JUST OF A THE PROPER PROCESSES. >> OKAY. SO THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS ARE PRESERVED. >> CAN YOU PUT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION. I AGREE. I AMEND MY THE ATTORNEY, FAIR ENOUGH. A MOTION AND A SECOND. SAY AYE. >> AND THAT MOVES US TO L AND [L. Authorize the execution of a grant award notice, terms and conditions, and related documentation from the Texas A&M University Sponsored Research Services for the Texas Vaccine Outreach and Education grant, contingent upon review and acceptance by the County Attorney.] AND THE SPEAK ABOUT L AND M THAT WAS COMMISSIONER GONZALES ON M. >> I WANT A CLARIFICATION WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE AN AMOUNT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS A NEW GRANT, WOULD YOU TALK ABOUT THE GRANT FOR US. >> IT IS A NEW GRANT OFFERED BY THROUGH DHHDSHS THROUGH THE TEXAS A AND M HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND SPONSORED EDUCATION IT IS A VACCINE OUTREACH AND ED VAGUES. THERE IS NO MATCH REQUIRED. WE DO NOT HAVE THE GRANT AGREEMENT. I WAS HOPING TO RECEIVE IT SEND IT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. THAT'S WHY I ADDED THE LANGUAGE IN THE RECOMMENDATION IT IS CONTINGENT ON RECEIVING THE GRANT AGREEMENT AND HAVING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REVIEW FOR ANY EDITS. THIS WILL BE USED FOR UNVACCINATED IN THE COMMUNITY GEARED TO HAVING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS AND ESPECIALLY NOW WE HAD A CALL AT 9 A.M. THAT WE LISTENED IN ON AND THEY ARE PUSHING FOR EDUCATION FOR THE VACCINATION FOR THE CHILDREN NOW THAT THE PFIZER VACCINE IS AUTHORIZED. IS. >> THIS FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS. >> YES. >> WHAT IS THE AMOUNT IN. >> 148500. >> OUTREACH AND EDUCATION OF -- >> UTILIZED WITH. >>> THE MONEY IS THROUGH THE STATE THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES BUT RUN THROUGH SO THEY HAVE SELECTED THE TEXAS A AND M HEALTH SYSTEM. >> ADMINISTERED BY TEXAS. >> YES. >> , DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? >> MOVE APPROVAL. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. [M. Ratify Texas Health and Human Services Commission Home Delivered Meals Waiver for the year 2021 - 2023.] NOW THE HOME DELIVERED MEALS. WILL YOU STAY WITH US FOR A HIT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> THE REASON I PULLED THAT. [03:00:03] I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE BUT RATIFIED HEAR ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT. I MEAN -- >> THERE IS AN EXPLANATION HERE COMING YOUR WAY; LET'S DO IT, I DID NOT PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA THAT MUST HAVE BEEN. >> THIS IS FROM EDWARD'S OFFICE AND EDWARD INDICATES THAT THIS IS A WAIVER THEY DO EVERY YEAR, THEY HAD A HARD DEADLINE THE 15H AND SO I THINK THEY TOOK IT TO THE -- TO YOUR OFFICE FOR APPROVAL. >> THAT'S CORRECT. WE'RE GETTING GOOD DOLLARS FOR A GOOD CAUSE. >> I THINK THAT EDWARD AGAINST A DEADLINE HE NEEDED TO GET THIS INTO THE STATE. THEY WERE ASKING FOR SOME MINOR CHANGES LIKE TO CHANGE THE ROBSTOWN ADDRESS TO THE COUNTY ADDRESS. AND IT IS. >> THE DEADLINE IS WHAT HAPPENED. >> NO. HE DIDN'T LOSE TRACK OF THE DEADLINE. THE STATE ASKED FOR A CHANGE AND THAT CHANGE WAS A CHANGE OF AN ADDRESS. IT WAS NOT AN EDWARD SITUATION THE STATE AGENCY ASKED US TO DO IT BY THE TIME WE GOT IT BACK ON A DOCUSIGN, THAT'S HOW THEY COME, I DID THAT FOR EDWARD. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. [1. Discuss and consider approval of a Memorandum of Understanding between Nueces County Coastal Parks and Coastal Bend Bays and Estuaries Program to execute education signage for the Packery Channel Nature Park.] >>> SUPER AND SCOTT CROSS, ARE YOU HEAR TO TALK ABOUT 3 A 1. COMMISSIONER YOU NEED, THIS IS YOURS. >> I WANTED A BATHROOM BREAK, TOO. OKAY, SCOTT WHY DON'T YOU SPEAK WE'LL TAKE AN OFFICIAL BATHROOM AND GRAB A CUP OF SOUP. >> IT IS AN AGREEMENT AND WHEN MEGAN CAME ON I BRING ON NEW FOLKS IN THE NATURAL RESOURCE POSITION THIS IS A WAY TO CUT THEIR TEETH. MEGAN HAS EXPERIENCE OF THIS SHE KNOCKED THIS OUT OF THE PARK FOR 7500 PROGRAM TO DO EDUCATIONAL SIGNAGE AND OUTREACH AT PACKERY CHANNEL NATURE PARK. WHEN WE GET THAT BUILT. IT IS DIFFERENT. THEY WANT US TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT VERSUS WE HAVE DONE CONTRACTS WITH THEM IN THE PAST. THE BEAUTY IS DOING IT THIS WAY IT C CUTS DOWN ON REPORTING. >> THAT'S WHAT I THINK. AND. >> THE ONE SUBMITTED, JUDGE, THAT IS STILL NEEDS SOME CHANGES I BELIEVE; THAT'S IT. >> THERE ARE SOME INDEMNIFICATION. >> CAN WE APPROVE SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL. I DON'T KNOW IF THE COURT HAS ANY. >> I DID WHAT FRANCIS GAVE ME AND -- >> CONTINGENT. JENNY WILL LET YOU KNOW IF THERE IS A MATTER. WE'LL BRING IT BACK. IF NOT THE APPROVAL I WOULD LIKE THE MOTION APPROVED UPON THE CONTINGENCY OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE MAKING THOSE EDITS AND APPROVING. >> SECOND OR MOVE? >> DID YOU MAKE THAT MOTION. , SECOND; THAT'S GREAT IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> I LOOKED I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO TELL ME YOU HAVE NO OTHER ITEM. [2. Discuss and consider approving Supplemental Agreement to Interlocal Agreement with Conrad Blucher Institute to add a time extension of sixty (60) days to continue with the coastal monitoring of Task 1 - 4.] BESIDES THAT ONE. >> WE'LL GO TO NUMBER 2 ON. >> WHAT THIS IS THAT A I'M ASKING FOR A 60 DAY EXTENSION THEY ARE INTERLOCAL WITH THE WORK THAT WAS PRESENTED PREVIOUSLY. AND IT IS DUE TO EXPIRE ON THE CURRENT INTERLOCAL. I WANT TO EXTEND IT BY 60 DAYS TO FINISH UP THE DELIVERABLES ON 1 THROUGH 4 AND THEN ONCE I GET TO THE END OF THE 60 DAYS, YOU WILL RECALL THE COMMISSIONER BRENT CHESNEY ALLOWED ME TO LOOK AT WHAT THE AMOUNT THAT'S LEFT ON THE OLD INTERLOCAL AND 509 GRAND TO DECIDE WHAT WE WANT TO DO MOVING FORWARD. I'M COME BACK. CLARIFYING THAT YOU BANNED ME TO DO THAT. RIGHT NOW LET'S CLEAN UP 1 [03:05:02] THROUGH 4 ADD GET THAT DONE AND COME BACK WITH AN AMENDMENT. WHY WHY AN AMENDMENT? I START THE WHOLE ADMINISTRATIVE OVERHEAD COSTS AGAIN. >> THE PROCESS. >> AND SO THIS IS A WAY TO SAVE MONEY WE AGREE ON THE TASK. I WILL TELL YOU THIS. >> NO COST TO THE 60 DAYS? >> NO LET THEM GET DONE. >> OKAY. DO WE NEED TO MAKE THIS CONTINGENT. ALL GOOD. >> THEN THE MOTION AND A SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> GOOD JOB, BYE. THE REST IS KIND OF IN 3, 4, 5, 6 AND 7 THEY'RE ALL GOING TO COME IN A SERIES THEY'RE ALL SORT OF WITH THE SAME THEME BUT WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF, I WILL TAKE A 15 MINUTE BREAK AND GRAB WHATEVER IT IS YOU NEED TO NOURISH YOURSELF. >> ARE THESE IN EXECUTIVE WE'RE COMING ON THE RECORD. [3. Discuss and consider fiscal year 2021-22 American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) premium pay distribution for Nueces County Sheriff’s Office Association collective bargaining unit members and certain cadet correctional officers, including, but not limited to: a. Application of premium pay to straight hours worked b. Payment of payroll taxes and other covered benefit expenses c. Payment in excess of 150% of state’s average annual wage] [03:22:42] 12:31. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS THE [03:22:48] ARPA AND DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE FISCAL YEAR 21-22 AS [03:22:55] RELATES TO PAYMENT FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNIT MEMBERS AND CADET DIRECTIONAL OFFICERS AND INCLUDING FORMER EMPLOYEES AND THROUGH ARE THREE AREAS THAT WE WANT TO, TO YOU WILL RECALL THAT RECALL COURTS AGO THE COURT MADE THE DECISION TO APPROVE 20% PREMIUM PAY FOR ALL THOSE THAT FIND THEMSELVES UNDER THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT AND IN ADDITION TO THE CORRECTIONAL CADET OFFICERS AND SPECIFICALLY TO THOSE WHO WORK DIRECTLY INSIDE THE JAIL. TO ACHIEVE WHAT THE COURT'S GOALS ARE WE LEARNED THERE ARE DECISIONS TO BE MADE, THIS IS THEN VETTED BY HAGERTY WHO HAS THE EXPERTISE. WE HAD LOTS OF CALLS AND DISCUSSIONS. THE ITEMS ARE FOR THE COURT TO ARTICULATE WITH CLARITY HOW WE ARE PRO*ES IT. YOU SAY 20% THAT'S THE START OF THE DISCUSSION THEN THE FINE DETAILS COME INTO PLAY THE REASON THEY ARE TIMELY TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER BRENT CHESNEY'S COMMENT. IF WE MAKE THEM NOW, WHAT WOULD THE TIMEFRAME BE TO ACTUALLY SEE A CHECK. FOR THAT I'LL YIELD TO DALE BUT JUST TO PUT EVERYONE ON NOTICE THE THREE ITEMS ARE THAT WE WOULD ASK THE COURT TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION OF PREMIUM PAY STRAIGHT HOURS WORKED, THAT THE PAYMENT OF PAY ROLL TAXES AND OTHER COVERED BENEFIT EXPENSES BE ADDRESSED AND THE PAYMENT IN EXCESS OF 150% OF THE STATE AVERAGE ANNUAL WAGE BE ADDRESSED THAT'S A CONSTRAINT INSIDE OF OUR AND FURTHER MORE I CAN REPRESENT THE ISSUES HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED THE FER [03:25:05] ASSOCIATION AND HERE TO CONFIRM THAT THEY HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW WEIGH IN AND IT MEETS WITH THEIR APPROVAL AS TO THESE ITEMS. >> CAN I ADD ONE QUESTION? >> ON C, EVERYTHING ELSE I SEE IS OKAY. 50% WE SHOULD UNDER THE 50%; WE WANT TO EXPLAIN HERE, WE'LL YIELD HERE NOW TO DALE. THERE IS A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE IN EXCESS OF 150% WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT. YES, YOU'RE RIGHT YOU HAVE TO BE UNDER 150%. THE QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE 20% YIELDS OVER THAT. LET ME TURN IT OVER TO DALE. HANG ON ONE SECOND. JOE, I WANTED YOU TO MAKE COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH YOU. WE HAVE NOT DONE THIS IN ISOLATION OR IN A BOX. >> JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME PANTS OPPORTUNITY. WE MET WITH THE HAGERTY TEAM AND THE OFFICER'S ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN ON BOARD WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON. WE HAVE BEEN INVITED TO ALL THE MEE MEETINGS WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WHAT IS IN THE BACKUP LANGUAGE FOR THE ITEMS. >> THE 150% WE DON'T GO OVER THAT. >> WE HAVE WAY WE CAN APPLY FOR WAIVERS IT IS FOR THE, THE REASON IS BECAUSE THEY MAKE OVER AN X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS IT IS $78,000 WHERE THE THRESHOLD. ONE BARELYIC MAS OVER THE OTHER TWO CHIEF DEPUTIES MAKE A LITTLE MORE OVER THE 78,000. SO, WE WOULD URGE THE COURT TO TRY TO GET THE WAIVERS OR STICK TO THE PROMISE OF 20%. >> WE DO THAT WE HOLD BACK THE PROCESS? >> NO. >> NOT AT ALL. >> LET'S, THESE ARE JUST THREE PEOPLE THAT DON'T MEET THE 150% REQUIREMENT THAT WE AS A COURT WOULD MAKE AN ALLOWANCE TO DEAL WITH THEM SEPARATELY THE FIRST PROCESS IS A WAIVER. DALE, WILL YOU TAKE OVER AND PROVIDE THE BACKGROUND THAT'S IN THE BOOKS. I'M BE RIGHT BACK. >> AND THERE ARE, HAGERTY WHAT THE CALCULATIONS OF WHAT THE AVERAGE SALARY IS FOR OUR AREA AS WELL AS THE STATE AND THEY TAKE THAT AVERAGE AND MULTIPLY IT BY 150% LIKE JOE SAID $78,000 CLOSE TO THAT VALUE. AND OUR CHIEF DEPUTY OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE YOU SEE THAT BALANCE AND WE STARTED MAKING THE PREMIUM PAY THEY MAY GET CLOSE TO THE NUMBERS. THERE IS A CLAUSE IN THE ARPA FUNDS THAT ALLOW FOR EXEMPTION T IS UP TO THE COURT WHETHER YOU WANT TO EXCEED THAT. LIKE WE SAID, THERE IS PROBABLY THREE, MAYBE SURE ONCE WE START DOING OTHER ISSUES THAT MAY EXCEED THE BRACKET BUT THAT'S THE ONLY PROBLEM THAT THEY ARE, THEY EXCEED OR WILL EXCEED THE 150% OF THE STATE AVERAGE OF WAGES FOR THE PERIOD OF TIME WE'RE REQUESTING AND IT IS UP TO THE COURT WHETHER WE WANT TO GRANT AN EXEMPTION TO THE RULE. >> AND, BUT THOSE ARE ALL POSITIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING A HANDFUL THAT ARE MAINLY THE ADMINISTRATION, RIGHT? >> ALL ADMINISTRATION. A HIGHER LEVEL. THE TWO CHIEF DEPUTIES AND ASSI ASSISTANT CHIEFS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. AND THE CHIEF DEPUTY, IT WILL BE CLOSE. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL ADDRESS WHEN THE PROCESS GOES. DEPENDING HOW THAT WORKS. >> COMMISSIONER, I THINK THE NUMBERS WE LOOKED AT THERE ARE THREE PEOPLE. WE HAVE TWO CHIEF DEPUTIES AND ONE ASSISTANT WE'RE LOOKING AT THREE BUT YOU KNOW WE HOLD ABOUT 60 PLUS VACANCIES. THEY ARE WORKING AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF OVERTIME WHEN WE TALK WITH THE HAGERTY GROUP WE APPLY THE 20% PREMIUM PAY IT WOULD BE APPLIED TO THE SALARY NOT THE OVERTIME TO KEEP EVERYONE UNDER THAT 78,000 THRESHOLD TO MAKE IT FAIR AND EASIER ACROSS THE BOARD. >> I APPRECIATE THAT, JOE. THAT REFLECT THE NUMBERS BACK THEN AND JEWELRY RAN IT BACK ON STRAIGHT AND DOING THAT AND THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THAT. MY QUESTION IS, DO WE -- YOU [03:30:03] WANT TO VOTE OP THIS ONE AT A TIME BECAUSE YOU HAVE AB AND C. >> WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT IS IN AGREEMENT WE, I WOULD DO EACH SEPARATELY TO MAKE SURE THE DIRECTION OF THE COURT. WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ON THE PREMIUM STRAIGHT AS STRAIGHT HOURS WORKED. I'M AREA WORKING WITH THE STAFF AND DEVELOPING OUR CODES AND WORKING AS HARD AS WE CAN. AND OUR START TIS DECEMBER 10TH. WE WILL GO BACK TO NOVEMBER 1 AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE PAID DIRECTLY. THEY MAY NOT START UNTIL THE 1. WHAT IS THE TOTAL DOLLARS. >> IF WE HAD EVERYONE EMPLOYED REGULAR HOURS AROUND $3 MILLION. >> WE SAID 2.8 THE LAST TIME. >> THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE. THERE ARE SEVERAL VACANCIES, THEY WOULD NOT COUNT. IF I'M DOING SOME NUMBERS FOR ITEM 5 AND TALK ABOUT THAT LATER IN COURT 2.1 MILLION. >> COMMISSIONER WITH THE VACANCIES, THAT'S SUPERINTENDENTING WE'RE AT 100% FORCE WHICH WE'RE NOT. SO, YOU KNOW. I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU WILL FUND IT AT 100% ALL THE VACANCIES THAT YOU HAVE. YOU WILL HAVE THE SAVINGS IN THE BACK END. >> WE CAN'T, WE CAN FILL THOSE TOMORROW BUT THE REALITY IS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO. >> THE IMPORTANT PART STARTING THE PROCESS YOU CREATE THE FRAMEWORK AND YOU HOLD THE INTEGRITY OF TIMELINESS. WE WHACKERRED HARD TO CREATE A CONSIST SENSY THEY MERIT MOVEMENT. >> B IS AN IMPORTANT ITEM. THERE ARE ARPA FUNDS TO BE CHARGED TO THE FUND. HOWEVER THE COURT CAN DECIDE NOT TO DO AND UNEMPLOYMENT AND OTHER ISSUES THAT'S ABOUT 22%. >> THAT'S INCLUDED IN 39 MILLION-DOLLAR NUMBER? , IT'S NOT. >> JUST A IS 3 MILLION. >> IF YOU HAD EVERYONE HIRED WE DON'T HAVE EVERYONE HIRED YOU NEED TO TAKE 22%. >> BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE EVERYONE. I SUPPORT THIS BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE, CLOSE TO THE NUMBER OF WHAT -- THAT WAS THE QUESTION. WHAT IS AB AND C EQUAL SO WE'RE AWARE IT IS OUT OF THE ARPA FUNDS NOT GENERAL FUND TAXPAYER DOLLARS BUT ARPA FUNDS. AND IS THERE A WAY TO -- I SUPPORT IT. >> I CAN GIVE YOU AN ESTIMATE WE STARTED TO TRY TO GET THE INFORMATION FOR ITEM 5 IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND 5 GOING WITH THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE HIRED AND TRANSFERS AND MOVES. 2.1MILLION AND BENEFITS. CAN YOU ASSUME THAT'S ABOUT HOW IT WOULD BE IN THE FUTURE. 3MILLION FOR A FULLY FUNDED. >> 600,000 WOULD BE B. >> WE'RE NOT FULLY EMPLOYED. IT WILL BE LESS. >> I WILL SAY I'M JUST YOU KNOW THIS IS A EDUCATED GUESS 6 MILLION TOLEDO WITH THE RETRO PAY AND GOING FORWARD. >> THAT'S A GUESS. >> LET'S JUST TAKE 3 A, LET'S THE ESTIMATE IS $3 MILLION. THE ESTIMATE FOR 3 B IS 600 THOUGHT THAT WE WE ARTICULATED THAT. AND FOR C IS THE 20% OF THOSE THREE SALARIED EMPLOYEES THAT ARE CALCULATED IN A BUT WOULD NEED TO BE DEALT WITH SEPARATELY ON HOW WE USE THE ELIGIBILITY OF ARPA. >> AND IT SHOULD BE LOWER. >> IT'S IN THE 3 MILLION. >> THERE ARE SO MANY VACANCIES. >> 2.7. >> THAT DEPENDS HOW MANY VACANCIES. YOU KNOW THERE ARE VACANCIES THEY FILL THEM AND, WE HAVE PEOPLE GOING IN AND OUT. IT IS THE PROCESS. I DID LAST YEAR NUMBERS TO GET [03:35:03] A IDEA OF THE RETRO PAY. AND ASSUME 2 TO 3 MILLION. >> SO,. >> OKAY. >> SO, AGAIN. >> WITHOUT THE BENEFITS AND YOU ADD 20% OF THE BENEFITS. THAT WOULD BE $400,000. >> 3 A. >> I'M GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO FORMULATE IT DIFFERENT SO WE CAN SAY YOU MOVE. WOULD YOU RESTATE IT THAT THE COURT IS APPROVING THE PREMIUM PAY TO STRAIGHT HOURS WORKED. >> THAT IS MY MOTION. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND ON STRAIGHT HOURS WORKED. SAY AYE. >> AND MOTION PAYMENT FOR TAXES AND OTHER COVERED BENEFIT EXPENSES AS WELL. THAT'S THE MOTION. >> ON THE MOTION MAKE SURE THAT YOU SAY THE BENEFITS IS OUT OF ARPA NOT GENERAL FUNDS, OUT OF ARPA. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. >> SAY AYE. AND THEN ON THE THREE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE, THAT PAYMENT ON THE 20% WOULD EXCEED THE 150% OF THE STATE AVERAGE WAGE THE MOTION IS TO NOT ONLY PURSUE THE WAIVER PURSUANT TO THE ARPA STATUTE BUT IRREGARDLESS TO INCLUDE HEM IN THE FUNDING. >> BEFORE YOU START ON THAT, THERE IS ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THE PREMIUM PAY CANNOT EXCEED $25,000 IN ENTIRETY. AFTER WE DO RETRO PAY THERE MAY BE SOME AND 25,000 IS HIT WE HAVE TO STOP. >> A MOTION SEPARATE IN A MOMENT TO COVER THAT. BUT ON THE 150% OF STATE AVERAGE THERE ARE THREE EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT WOULD BE IN EXCESS OF 150%. JOE HAS ALREADY GIVEN US THE DETAILS. ONE IS LIKE LITERALLY BARELY OVER. AND BUT THOSE ARE, THAT CALCULATION RESTS INSIDE A. WHAT THE COURT NEEDS TO DO IS RECOGNIZE THAT AS TO THOSE THREE THERE COULD BE A NON-ELIGIBLE EXPENSE. THE MOTION IS THAT WE PURSUE THE WAIVER IF NOT PAYS FROM ANOTHER FUN FUNDING SOURCE THE TOTAL IS UNDER $10,000. >> THE FULL YEAR OF $10,000. >> WE'RE TALKING 30,000. >> I THINK ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND. >> THERE IS NO IT IS NOT ELIGIBLE. >> AND THE QUALIFICATION THESE ARE LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT THERE SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM GOING ABOVE THE 150% BUT WE GO ABOVE IN THE FRESHRY DOES NOT GRANT OUR WAIVER WE HAVE TO PROVIDE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES. >> IT WILL BE THE DELTA. >> I DON'T KNOW. UNLESS -- UNLESS SOMEONE IS THROWING IN. I DON'T WANT TO SAY GENERAL FUND IF WE DON'T HAVE IT. >> IT'S THE DELTA, NOTHING. >> A SMALL AMOUNT. >> WE'RE GOING TO QUALIFY THEM UP TO 150%. ANYTHING EXTRA WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM GENERAL FUND, YOU DON'T WANT TO TREAT ANYONE DIFFERENTLY BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT 30,000. THAT'S 30,000 THAT WOULD BE -- >> 10,000. >> AND PER PAY PERIOD AND 26. >> AND UP TO 150% IS OKAY. IT'S JUST THE ADDITIONAL. >> I GOT YOU. IT IS SUPER TINY. >> HOW ABOUT IF WE GET YOU SEE THAT NUMBER T IS VERY SMALL. IT IS VERY, VERY SMALL. >> I'M GOOD. >> AND I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> DALE HAS A GREAT POINT IF IF YOU EXCEED THE 25,000 THAT'S THE CAP. THE MOTION IS TO HAVE A CAP THAT COME PERCENTS WITH ARPA. >> A STRICTER CAP. >> MORE THAN $25,000. >> YOU CANNOT GO ANY HIGHER. FOR ANYTHING. FROM BEGINNING TO END. >> YES. IF YOU HIT $25,000. >> REGARDLESS WHERE IT COMES FROM. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE, JOE UNDERSTANDS THAT THE DEPUTIES KNOW THAT 25,000 IS THE MAX. >> 25,000 PER CALENDAR YEAR? >> THE ENTIRETY. , THAT'S OUR CAP, WE THINK, WE'LL RUN THE SPREADSHEET AND AFFECT VERY FEW PEOPLE. [03:40:04] AND THEY CAN GO UP TO 25,000. THE MOTION IS THAT THE COURT ACKNOWLEDGES THE DEPARTMENT OF FRESHRY GUIDELINES AND THE ARPA STATUTE GUIDELINES NOT COMPETE 25,000 FOR ANY INDIVIDUAL ON RETROACTIVE OR PAY WHAT WE CALL PREMIUM PAY. >> RIGHT. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> 100% ON BOARD. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. SAY AYE. , WE HAVE A GREAT FRAMEWORK WE'RE NOT PROMISING WE WILL NOT NEED BUT DALE HAS SOMETHING TO BUILD UPON. >> GET THIS STARTED QUICKER WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR -- RETIREMENT SYSTEM AND WORKING WITH OUR IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS AND THE REQUIREMENTS THAT IS WHEN YOU WE GET TO THE RETRO SIDE ISSUES THAT WE ADDRESS. >> GET ON THE RETRO WILL THEY GET GET A LUMP SUM. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH THE OFFICERS IT IS WHAT DALE CAN DO WITH EASE. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A DIVIDED BY 12 YOU KNOW SO IT'S NOT, AND GOING BACK. >> AND IF WE DO IT IN ONE LUMP SUM ON THE IRS TAX FORMS. , THAT'S A LOT OF TAXES. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S AN ISSUE AND TO SAY THAT. >> I THINK THAT YOU CAN ADVISE THE COURT THE MINUTE YOU MAKE THAT DECISION. I KNOW THAT THE ASSOCIATION AND I DISCUSSED THAT MATTER WE THINK THAT MAKES SENSE. >> WE THINK IT IS SMART STORY [4. Discuss and consider fiscal year 2021-22 American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) premium pay for elected Nueces County law enforcement officials and related matters.] HAVE IT DIVVIED OUT. NUMBER 4 THAT ONE WAS FOR THE ELECTED NUECES COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS AND I THINK DALE WAS LOOKING FOR AGAIN THIS IS KIND OF CLARITY THAT WE HAD IN OUR MOTION NOT INCLUDED S THAT THE CLARITY? >> THAT IS JUST THE DETECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT FORM LATER ON AND PEOPLE WORKING. >>> IT WAS NEVER AN ISSUE. AND WHETHER THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED TO ADDRESS. >> AND INCLUDE THE SHERIFF AND THE CONSTABLES, WE WOULD INCLUDE THE SHERIFF AND CONSTABLES IN THE MOTION MADE AND SOMEONE SECONDED IT. >> AND EVERYONE THAT'S IN THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING THEY ARE PART OF IT. >> THEY ARE IN. >> THE CONSTABLES THEM. THE ELECTED CONSTABLES. >> I THINK THE SHERIFF DID DECLINE. BUT WE MADE THE MOTION IS WHAT I'M SAYING, THAT SHOULD BE ON RECORD. >> THE THING TO DO WE SHOULD ISSUE A NOTICE JUST LIKE YOU SAID I WANT TO BE, I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO SAY I'M, YOU KNOW GETTING A PAY RAISE. BECAUSE THEY ARE TREATED DIFFERENTLY AND THINK DIFFERENTLY. IF WE SEND OUT A LETTER TO ACCEPT OR DECLINE. >> WE'LL SEND A LETTER OUT THAT'S WHY IT WAS AN ISSUE PUBLISHED THEM ACCORDING TO THE LAW AND THIS IS ADDING I DON'T KNOW AN ISSUE THAT WE'RE ADDING TO THE SALARY. >> THE SUPPLEMENT. >> STILL SOMETHING THAT IS CONSIDERED THE SALARY. >> A SUPPLEMENTAL. >> IT IS A SALARY AND WE MUST. >> DON'T ARGUE WITH THE AUDITOR HE'S TELLING YOU. >> IT WILL COME BACK TO THE REGULAR SALARY? >> THEY DON'T GET THIS FOREVER THE MOTION WAS FOR -- >> PREMIUM PAY. DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE WE ARE REQUIRED TO ISSUE AND PUT IN THE PAPER THE SALARY OF EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THE COUNTY ACCORDING TO THE TAX LAWS. THIS IS YOUR SALARY, ARE YOU ADDING TO IT. ONCE THEY GET IT, IT GOES AWAY A TWO-TIME THING. [03:45:03] >> WE HAVE DONE IT FOR ONE YEAR; WE HAVE DONE IT FOR ONE YEAR. >> AND THE SALARY WE PUSH IRISHED I WANTED TO MAKE SURE -- PUBLISHED. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE. >> I THINK THAT THE ISSUE IS THAT -- THE COURT SHOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND DECLARE WE'RE GOING TO SEND A LETTER ASKING THEM TO OPT IN OR OUT AND NEED THAT RETURNED T IS A TAX LAW SITUATION. >> FOR THE SHERIFF AND THE CONSTABLES. >> IT MAY NEED TO BE RENOTICED. >> READ THE LAW THIS IS THE SALARY, WE PUBLISHED NOTICINGS. IF YOU WANT TO ACCEPT THIS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE NO VIOLATIONS. >> THAT'S WHY. >> WE TABLE THIS. >> I THINK THAT'S SMART. >> MOTION TO TABLE TO THE 17 17TH. >> SAY AYE; WE'RE TH TALKING THEY WILL CALL IN AND INDICATE WHAT THEY ARE THINKING. >> THE ELECTED OFFICIALS. >> THE FIVE CONSTABLES AND THE SHERIFF. THAT'S THE ONLY PEOPLE I KNOW THAT ARE ELECTED LAW ENFORCEMENT. [5. Discuss and consider retroactive American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) premium pay distribution for Nueces County Sheriff’s Office Association collective bargaining unit members and certain cadet correctional officers, including former employees, and/or law enforcement elected officials; establish retroactive premium pay start date beginning March 13, 2020 and related matters.] >>> NOVEMBER 17TH. AND THE RETROACTIVE. WE DISCUSSED THE FORWARD NOW RETRO THIS IS TO ESTABLISH A DATE AND SEE THIS IS ALL CLEAN UP MAKING SURE WE HAVE A PERFECT RECORD OF WHAT THE INTENTIONS ARE. THIS IS THE DATE. , WE PULL TO EXECUTIVE -- WE WILL PULL TO EXECUTIVE. SHE WANTS TO HAVE A LEGAL DISCUSSION. WE WILL HAVE A LEGAL DISCUSSION IN EXECUTIVE AND COME BACK IF NEEDED TO TAKE ACTION. [6. Discuss and consider American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) premium pay for County employees working within the Nueces County jail, but not collective bargaining unit members, county employees in direct contact with those working within the jail, and employees in direct contact with arrestees; and related matters.] NUMBER 6 IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT IS NOT TALKING ABOUT THOSE UNDER THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT AND IT IS THE SAME COUNTY EMPLOYEES IN CONTACT WITH THOSE IN THE JAIL AND THOSE IN DIRECT CONTACT WITH ARRESTEES. SO THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT CAME BEFORE US THAT HOW THEY BOOK AND FINGERPRINT AND PERFORM DUTIES AND HAVE CONTACT. AND ITEM 3 ON 3 BE GIVEN TO 6. >> I DON'T THINK THE 150, THEY WERE AT 20% AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PREMIUM PAY WOULD BE. GOING BACK I THINK THAT THE COURT WHAT WE DISCUSSED WAS THAT ANYBODY IN THE VERY CLASS THERE WAS A DISTINCTION FOR ME HERE AND IT WAS, AND BACK TO THE ARGUMENT BEFORE. AND HOW THIS IS DONE. WE'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS IN A BIT THE WHOLE PAY FOR PEOPLE AT HOME. THAT'S AN ISSUE AND. AND I THINK THERE WAS SOMETHING WHO WORKED WHO CONTACTED PEOPLE THAT WENT IN AND TO PUT PEOPLE AND RESPECTFULLY THAT WERE NOT IN THE THEY SERVE MORE. [03:50:02] >> CAN I BIFURCATE THIS. THERE ARE PEOPLE PEOPLE THAT FIX TOILETS AND PEOPLE WHO WORK INSIDE WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND WE SO ALL THAT ARE WORKING IN THE JAIL. THEY WOULD BE CONSENSUS THAT WE. WE HAVE THOSE, A LIST. >> JUDGE. >> IF I MAY, YOU KNOW WE SUPPORT THIS 100% WITHOUT THE PEOPLE IN ID AND ADMINISTRATION AND PUBLIC WORKS AND PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT THE OFFICERS THAT ARE THERE WORKING SIDE BY SIDE, WE COULD NOT DO OUR JOB. WE SUPPORT THEM 100%. WE FEEL LIKE THEY SHOULD GET THE SAME DEAL WE GOT. YOU KNOW, FROM THE AND THE WE SUPPORT THOSE 100%. >> REMOTE WORK WAS NOT -- NOBODY DID REMOTE WORK AT THE JAIL. EVERYONE THAT WENT INTO THE JAIL. >> CORRECT. >> ALTHOUGH WE USE THE WORD "JAIL" AND THAT CONJURES UP SOMEBODY INCARCERATED IT IS SOMEONE SPACE AND EVERYONE WORKING IN THAT JAIL HAD EXPOSURE IN MY OPINION TO COVID-19 IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN OTHERS WHO WORKED IN DIFFERENT OFFICES. EVEN THOSE INICES HAD EXPOSURE UNLESS. I'M UNASSURE OF ANYONE ACCORDING TO THE SHERIFF WHO DID NOT HAVE SOME SORT OF A DIRECT CONTACT WITH PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF THE JAIL. >> WE CAN VET THAT. IF WE WANT TO GET TO STEP A, ANYBODY THAT HAD WORKED INSIDE THE UNIT S THAT THE RIGHT WORD. DO WE WANT TO? >> AND INSIDE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE PER SAY. >> ANYONE THAT WORKED INSIDE THE JAIL, THE PLUMBERS ANYONE WORKING FINGERPRINTS. THE WAY IT READS HERE IT IS WELL WORDED IN DIRECT CONTACT WITH THOSE WORKING IN THE JAIL AND EMPLOYEES IN CONTACT WITH ARRESTEES. ANYONE WORKING WITH CONTACT WITH THE ARRESTEES AND WITHIN THE JAIL AND WILL THEY RECEIVE THE 20% MY MOTION IS THAT THEY DO. >> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND SECOND SAY AYE. >> AYE. THIS IS WHERE IT IS HELPFUL TO HAVE AN OUTSIDE AUDITOR AND JUSTIFICATION SO THAT EVERY MEMBER PROVIDE A DOCUMENT WITH THEIR CONTACT WITH THE JAIL THROUGH THE SUPERVISOR I, BY THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT IF THEY QUALIFY. >> CAN WE SCREEN THAT. >> WE WILL NEED A LISTING FROM ALL DEPARTMENTS TO LET US KNOW. WE HAVE NO WAY OF VERIFYING IT. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE. >> THE SHERIFF CAN VERIFY IT. , WE NEED ONE PERSON. >> IF YOU REMEMBER ALL THE PEOPLE THAT CAME UP EVERYONE FELT JUSTIFIED. >> HOW ABOUT THE SHERIFF. >> IF WE IDENTIFY THAT. >> THE SHERIFF. >> DO WE GET A LIST OF THAT. >> THE SHERIFF DID PROVIDE A LIST. >> LET THE SHERIFF PROVIDE A LIST TO THE AUDITOR, WITH THE RIGHT DOCUMENTATION. >> ON PAY ROLL WHICH QUALIFY FOR THE 20%. >> IF THEY DON'T WE NEED TO KNOW WHO QUALIFIES. >> SHOULD HR BE INCLUDED. >> SURE. WE CAN PUT TOGETHER THE IDEA NOW WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THOSE WITH THE THOSE IN THE JAIL, THAT'S 20% AND THEN IT IS RETROACTIVE AS WELL. >> WE'LL ASK THE SHERIFF. HE SENT IT THE DAY WE WERE HERE. I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT IT I'LL LET HIM MAKE SURE IT IS ACCURATE SINCE HE KNOWS WE'LL SUBMIT IT. >> DID YOU GET THE MOTION AND THE SECOND? >> I'M SAYING ARE YOU GOOD. YOU GOT THE LANGUAGE? IT IS, WE NEED A LISTING OF THE EMPLOYEES AND CHANGE AND AFFECT PAY ROLL EVERY PAY PERIOD. SOMETHING THAT IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS WENT IN AND THEY DON'T DO THAT DO WE PAY THEM 20% FOR ALL THE TIME? >> ARPA ONLY ALLOWS US TO PAY [03:55:06] IF, FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY THAT YOU WERE REMOTE ONE MONTH BUT ACTIVE 11 MONTHS OUT OF THE, ARE YOU NOT ENTITLED TO ELIGIBILITY ON THE ONE MONTH. LET'S DO SOME CLEAN UP HERE. >> SOMEONE WORK SKILLS AND DOES THE PLUMBING AT THE JAIL. THE REST OF THE TIME HOW MUCH DO WE PAY THEM PREMIUM. >> IT IS ONLY THE TIME THEY ARE THERE. AND THE. >> THE PUBLIC WORKS THEY ARE HOUSED IN THE JAIL. THE PUBLIC WORKS FOR DOWNTOWN. THE OFFICE IS UNDER SO BUT THE PUBLIC WORKS SECTION THEY ARE. THERE I NEED THE EMPLOYEE NUMBERS AND NAMES AND ACTIVITY REPORTS WHAT THEY ARE DOING SO WE CAN PAY THEM CORRECTLY. >> YOU SAID ANYONE IN THE FACILITY THAT INCLUDES PUBLIC WORKS. LET'S DO THIS. WE MADE GREAT PROGRESS ON THAT WHICH WAS THE FIRST TO COME BEFORE US. THIS IS THE SECOND PIECE OF IT LET US STATE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE COVER THE THREE, WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE, WHAT IS THE TIME PERIOD SO IT I HEARD 20%. RETROACTIVE. WHAT IS THE ELIGIBILITY DIRECT CONTACT AND OR WITH THOSE WITHIN THE JAIL. >> THOSE WITHIN THE JAIL OR DIRECT CONTACT WITH THE ARRESTEES WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY IS THAT THE NEXT PIECE FOR THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEM IS TO HAVE A SUBMITTAL HOFF THE FOLKS ARE AND THE DOCUMENTATION THAT BACKS IT UP. HAGERTY COULD ASSIST IN THIS ENDEAVOR. THIS IS HOW WE DID IT FOR PERSONNEL EXPENSES UNDER THE RELIEF FUNDMENT WE HAD TO GO THROUGH A PAINSTAKING PROCESS BUT YOU CAN VERIFY ELIGIBILITY. THE SHERIFF AND HR WILL WORK WITH US. WE'LL HAVE TO BRING THIS BACK SO YOU CAN ACCEPT THE ROSTER. >> AND WE MAY, WE'LL PROCEED WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ASSOCIATION WE NEED THE LIST. >> THIS MAY. >> I'M COMFORTABLE I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE MOTION AND SUBMITS TO YOU, I DON'T NEED TO SEE IT. I TRUST THE SHERIFF TO TO THIS THE RIGHT WAY. THE SHERIFF WILL TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE. >> GOOD WITH THAT? >> WE GET A LISTING AND DOESN'T CHANGE EVERY PAY PERIOD. >> IT DOES NOT CHANGE. >> HE HAS TO GIVE YOU WHO DID IT. >> AND THE TIMEFRAME. RIGHT THE TIMEFRAME THE ONLY CONCERN IS THE TIMEFRAME. LET US WORK WITH THE SHERIFF LIKE JOE SAID NO ISSUES MAYBE IT IS CONSISTENT. IF IT IS INCONSISTENT LIKE THE THREE FOLKS GET TREATED DIFFERENTLY. WE'LL TREAT THEM DIFFERENT THEY WERE THERE FOR ONE MONTH OUT OF THE YEAR. >> WE'RE -- WE HIRED AND WE'LL BRING THEM IN ON STAFF AND NEED WORKSHOPS WITH THE COURT AS WELL THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO GET THE PROPERTY LISTING OF EMPLOYEES WE'RE ADDRESSING AND BRING THOSE BEFORE THE COURT BEFORE WE DO ANY ACTION. >> IF THIS IS WHAT I BROUGHT UP WITH THAT I LET GO. >> IF THEY FIND SOMETHING BRING ANY OF IT BACK, IT'S WHAT WE HAVE THEM FOR. WE'LL COME BACK. WE WANT TO GET THAT DONE WE WANT TO GET THEM PAID. [7. Discuss and consider fiscal year 2021-22 American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) premium pay distribution for Nueces County employees (other than those working within the Nueces County Sheriff’s office or law enforcement), including, but not limited to: a. Application of premium pay to straight hours worked b. Payment of payroll taxes and other covered benefit expenses c. Payment in excess of 150% of state’s average annual wage d. ARPA ineligibility for remote work] >> AGREED. SUPER, I FEEL GOOD WE MOVED FORWARD. 7 IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT IS THE REST OF THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES THAT WAS SORT OF WHAT HAPPENED THE FOLLOWING WEEK WE DECIDED TO ISSUE THE 10% PREMIUM PAY. AND WE SAID THE CAVEAT WE HAD A LOT OF WORK TO DO ON THAT PIECE AND START IN JANUARY AND A LOT OF VETTING TO DO. CREATING A FRAMEWORK FOR THOSE. AND WHO QUALIFY, FOR THOSE WHO QUALIFY, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME EXERCISE STRAIGHT HOURS WORKED. PAY ROLL TAXES AND COVERED BENEFIT EXPENSES. ANYBODY THAT FALLS UNDER THE 150% WE NEED TO ADDRESS. THAT. TY MAY BE DIFFERENT. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THERE IS AN INELIGIBILITY FOR ROW MOTE WORK. PREMIUM PAY IS GIVEN FOR THOSE FOLKS HOE WERE IN HARM'S WAY [04:00:05] NOT WHO WAS VALUED. A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKED REMOTE FOR AIRPORT AIRPORT IT -- ARPA IT REQUIRES YOU PRESENT. ITS TO NOT MAKE YOU ELIGIBLE. YOU WORKED REMOTELY. THAT'S WHY COLLIER, JOHNSON WOODS IS HERE ADD HAGERTY. REMEMBER, I MEAN IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE AND OBLIGATION TO GET IT RIGHT S IT A LOT OF WORK? YES. >> THE QUESTION IS THIS CURRENT PAY OR WE DOING RETRO ON THIS AS WELL? >> WE DECIDED WE SAID NO RETRO GOING FORWARD. >> WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENTS MAKE SURE THEY ARE WORKING HERE AT THE COURTHOUSE. BUT IF WE TALK ABOUT RETRO THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME AND EFFORT. >> WE SAID NO THAT WAS THE WILL OF THE COURT THE LAST TIME. >> WILL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS SUBMIT THE MONTH THEY WORKED. >> THIS IS GOING FORWARD. >> , WE HAVE TO HAVE A PAY ROLL SAYING THEY WERE AT THE COURTHOUSE OR AT THEIR WORK PLACE OR IF THEY ARE HOME. >> I MAKE A MOTION ON 7 A TO PAY THE 10% OF THE APPLICATION OF THE PREMIUM PAY FOR THE HOURS WORKED GOING FORWARD. WHEN WILL WE START THAT, JANUARY 1? >> JANUARY 1. >> JUST READ THAT PAIR ENITCAL AS WELL -- PAIR THENCAL. OTHER THAN WORKING WITHIN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR LAW ENFORCEMENT. , THAT NEEDS TO BE EXCLUDED. >> I WILL ABSTAIN ON THIS ONE. >> AND I WILL. THE PREMIUM PAY FOR THOSE OTHERS THAN THOSE WORKING IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, LAW ENFORCEMENT OR NOT IN CONTACT WITH THOSE WORKING WITHIN THE JAIL OR WITH THE ARRESTEES BE GIVEN THE DESIGNATION OF PREMIUM PAY TO STRAIGHT HOURS WORKED AND PREMIUM PAY IS DEFINED IN THIS CATEGORY OF EMPLOYEES AT 10%. >> SECOND THAT. >> ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT. GOING TO STILL GET THE RECORDS FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEADS? >> WE WILL HAVE TO GET TIME AND ATTENDANCE THAT WE DO AND VERIFY FROM THE DIRECTOR IF THEY WERE AT THEIR PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT. >> A MONTH OR TWO OR THREE OR FOUR. >> WHEREVER THEY ARE; WE PAY EVERY TWO WEEKS. THE INFORMATION WITHIN EVERY TWO WEEKS. WE DON'T PAY PER MONTH. >> I KNOW SEVEN MONTHS WORKED OUT THREE MONTHS, WE PAY FOR SEVEN MONTHS. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE. >> ALL OF THIS WILL BE VERIFIED. >> THIS IS FOR EVERYONE ELSE. EVERYTHING. >> AT A MINIMUM. >> SO, PUBLIC WORKS, INLAND PARKS. >> PUBLIC WORKS NOT WORKING IN THE JAIL, NOT ASSOCIATED OR WITHIN THE JAIL AND ALL OTHER DEPARTMENTS OF THE COUNTY THAT THE CLERK AND THE JPS AND YOUR RECORDS MANAGEMENT INDIVIDUALS. YES THAT INCLUDES EVERYONE. >> I SAID BEFORE AND YOU NOSE MY CONCERN WAS THAT THERE WERE SOME POSITIONS THAT WERE EXPOSED TO THIS IN THE EARLY DAYS. THEY WERE DEALING WITH PREP AND TRAFFIC CONTROL. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME SEPARATION I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AS WELL. AND THINK OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS JUST HAVE A DIFFERENCE IN PERCENTAGE, RIGHT? , THIS IS THE YOU CAN IDENTIFY [04:05:02] A SOCIAL SERVICES THAT DEAL WITH THE HOMELESS COMING IN THAT COULD HAVE COVID. YES. THOSE ARE HELPING YOU SET UP THE SITES BUT THEY WOULD NEED TO BE IDENTIFIED AND WHAT PERCENTAGE. >> WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THEM BEFORE WE TALKED ABOUT THEM A COUPLE OF TIMES DURING THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS THAT'S OFF RECOLLECTION. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS. >> COMMISSIONER, ONE THING I WANT TO DO ON 7 ESTABLISH THE FRAMEWORK I SUPPORT YOUR CONCEPT. TO GO BACK TO HAGERTY THERE MAY BE A REQUIREMENT BESIDE NOS, A REQUIREMENT YOU CANNOT HAVE REMOTE WORK BUT A REQUIREMENT I THINK OF COVID-19 NEXUS AND SO THAT MAY SOLVE THE PROBLEMS THERE. NUMBER 7 IS REALLY LESS ABOUT -- WE CAN MAKE SOME TWEAKS HERE PUT THAT ON THE MOTION FOR THE 17TH HAGERTY CAN GIVE US MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT WE CAN DO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GET THE PLAY AND. DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THAT. AND KNOWING WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE. ADD WE ADDRESS THOSE. THE LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE DON'T HAVE A WAIVER ON THE REGULAR EMPLOYEE SIDE. >> ON THAT ONE IT IS VERY DIFFERENT THEY'RE WORKING INSIDE THE JAIL. AND ON THIS ONE AND WE STICK TO THE 150%. >> I CAN NOTE REMEMBER AND WE'LL WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE THAT AND THE SERVICES AND THAT CONTINUED ON AFTER THE EVENT. >> AND WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT, AND EXCLUDING THEM IN THE MOTION. THAT IS WHY I ABSTAINED. PEOPLE WHO HAVE THEY SIT IN THE OFFICES. I DON'T KNOW IF WE END UP AT THE SAME POINT I DEPENDENT FEEL LIKE IT. , WE'RE SETTING A MINIMUM IF WE CAN GET CLARITY. AND DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THOSE AND SOME WERE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THAT. AND THE SHIFTS OR MORE AND THE EARLY ON SET OF THE WESTING THEY WERE ININVOLVED AND THINKING OF THE STAFF THERE AND WHO WENT INTO PEOPLE'S HOMES. THOSE ARE A FEW AGAIN. AND I DON'T WANT TO HOLD IT BUT PART OF IT BACK I AM IN FAVOR OF THAT. AND. >> SHOULD WE BE PAYING I DON'T WANT TO SAY RETRO AND NOT GOING BACK THE RETRO. [04:10:02] SHOULD WE SAY PAY IT, YOU PUT DALE IN CARDIAC ARREST; IT IS AN AUDITOR'S NIGHTMARE. WE HAD MANY. AND THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY. ADD THE NEW THEY WILL GET THAT. AND COVID-19 EXISTS HERE THE IMPORTANT THING IS LET SET THE FRAMEWORK. THAT'S ALL THIS IS AND NOVEMBERH WE CAN FOCUS ON THIS. THE GOAL WAS TO TACKLE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT. >> CAN I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, HE SAID WAS A GOOD POINT. IS THERE A WAY WE CAN DO IT WHAT YOU SAID A WHILE AGO K WE GO RETROACTIVE. YOU GO HERE AND, YOU SAY WE GO 5% ACROSS THE BOARD AND DOING THE PANDEMIC; THEY DIDN'T START GOING HOME UNTIL SEVERAL MONTHS AFTER. THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING HOME RIGHT AWAY. THEY WERE GOING HOME AFTER MAYBE WHAT, SIX MONTHS, 7 MONTHS, SIX, 7 MONTHS THEY STARTED GOING HOME BECAUSE THEY SAY YOU CAN GO HOME IN THE PANDEMIC, WORK OUT OF THE HOUSE. I THINK THAT THE WORK WAS DONE BY EVERYONE PREVIOUSLY SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO ACROSS THE BOARD. >> THE PROBLEM IS THAT MOST OF US WORKED MOST NOT US OUR EMPLOYEES DID WORK REMOTELY THEY DO NOTE QUALIFY FOR REMOTE WORK. IT IS ELIGIBLE. ARPA IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR REMOTE WORK. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. >> , THEY WERE ALL HERE FOR SIX MONTHS. ADD IT WAS -- I DON'T KNOW MAYBE I'M WRONG BUT WHEN THEY START THINGS STARTED. WE DO A DRIVE THREE. PEOPLE WERE WORKING HERE AT THE COURTHOUSE AND FIVE, SIX MONTHS. >> I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THE TIMEFRAME RIGHT THE DISASTER WAS BASICALLY DECLARED MARCH 13H AND THEN BY THE SUMMER WE WERE ALREADY IN IN A SURGE. APRIL, MAY, JUNE, RIGHT. THAT'S A SHORT WIND DO WE HAVE TO GO BACK WHEN THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT ISSUED THEIR ORDERS AND TRIALS WERE NO LONGER AVAILABLE. >> IT IS A SUGGESTION. >> LET'S DO THIS. WE LET'S BE SATISFIED THAT BEE HAVE -- WE HAVE TACKLED THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PIECE AND THOSE THAT WORKED DIRECTLY WITH THE JAIL. LET'S SET, AGAIN, THE FRAMEWORK ALL WE'RE DECIDE SOMETHING HOW WE'RE GOING TO USE THE WORK HOURS. STRAIGHT WORK HOURS. WILL BENEFITS BE A PART OF IT. DO WE WANT ANYONE TO GAIN EXCESS OF 150% WHERE WE HAVE TO SEEK A WAIVER? LET'S AGREE INELIGIBILITY FOR REMOTE WORK. SET THE FRAMEWORK AND WHO QUALIFIES. >> THE OTHER THING I THOUGHT OF AS I SIT HERE WHAT YOU COULD DO GO RETRO FOR THOSE WHO DIDN'T WORK REMOTE THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING. THOSE WHO DIDN'T WORK REMOTELY. >> YES. >> THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR ARPA, WE COULD GO BACK AND DO THAT FOR SOME OF THEM AND WHAT TO DO FORWARD? , YES. , WHAT IS IMPORTANT IF YOU WANT TO BRING THE COURT A DOLLAR AMOUNT. I HAVE TO HAVE A FRAMEWORK I HAVE TO KNOW HOW WE'RE PAYING PEOPLE, WHAT IS INCLUDED. WHEN YOU HIT THE 150%. DO YOU HAVE ANYONE COME IN AND THEN ANYONE REMOTE WORK NOT IN. THESE ARE THE LS OF 7. FIVE WE PASSED IT. >> WE KNOW WHO IT IS. THIS ONE IF YOU ARE SAYING AGREE ON THE CONCEPT AND REMOTE [04:15:01] AND STRAIGHT HOURS. >> THEN ON THE 17TH LET'S SEIZE WHAT ELSE WE CAN BRING BACK. >> THAT'S GREAT. >> EXCUSE ME, JUDGE. WHAT ABOUT, I KNOW DISCUSSING BACK AND FORTH PEOPLE FROM PARKS, ARE THEY GOING TO BE EXCLUDED. A LOT OF THEM WORKED DURING THE PANDEMIC AND THEY INTERACTED WITH THE PUBLIC WHETHER THEY WERE IN THE OFFICE OR OUT IN THE PARK AREA. >> TOTALLY AGREE. >> NOBODY IS EXCLUDED RIGHT NOW. I THINK WE HAD SOME EMPLOYEES HELPING OUT OR WORKING IN THE IRT PART. >> RIGHT NOW OTHER THAN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THOSE THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFY WHO HAD HAD CONTACT IN THE JAIL OR WITH ARRESTEES THEY ARE ELIGIBLE IF THEY WE SET THE FLOOR AT 10% AND THERE IS A WILL TO CREATE A DIFFERENT SCHEDULE FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT HAD INTERACTION JUST LIKE YOU HAVE INTERACTION THAT IS CONTACT VETERAN SERVICES, SOCIAL SERVICES, THERE ARE SOME THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW MORE -- NOT LITTLE MORE THEY THEY HAVE DIRECT CONTACT WITH THE PUBLIC. THE NEXT TIME WE COME, WE'LL IDENTIFY THOSE. THIS IS TO GET US AGREEING ON THE RULES. >> OKAY. >> BUT THIS IS NOT INCLUDING THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICIALS, THAT'S A SEPARATE AMOUNT. >> NOT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY THAT GOT A SEPARATE AMOUNT. THE ONLY REASON I DIDN'T WANT TO CONFUSE PEOPLE, IT WILL, BUT WE ALLOCATED 50% OF THAT INCREASE TO THE AMERICAN RELIEF BUT NOT FROM PREMIUM PAY FROM ANOTHER RESOURCE WHICH IS LOST REVENUE WHICH ALLOWS FOR GOVERNMENT SERVICES TO BE PAID FROM THAT BUCKET. >> I WOULD NOT EVEN, WE'RE PASSING THE CONCEPT. I CALL THE QUESTION. >> CAN I CLARIFY THOUGH ON THE 150% ARE YOU SAYING ARE YOU NOT GOING TO DO IT ON THIS ONE. >> NOT. IN OTHER WORDS 150% WILL MAKE THE CAP THERE. , WE'RE NOT GOING ABOVE THAT. UNLESS SOMEONE BRINGS BETTER INFORMATION. BUT IT HAS TOO MANY THAT QUALIFY. YOU HAD A QUESTION? , WE MISSED A VOTE. >> IT IS JUST THE CONCEPT. I'LL KEEP WITH THE MOTION AND THE SECOND. AGAIN THE CLARIFICATION IS THE 150% IS THE CAP. >> OKAY. >> THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WOULD LIKE US IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY WHICH IS FUNDED FROM A DIFFERENT SOURCE. NO. >> NO FUNDS WE'RE PASSING THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING FORWARD ON COMING WITH. >> NEXT TIME WE'LL COME UP WITH A DATE AND THE GROUPINGS. AND YOU CAN SUGGEST. YOU WANT TO GRAB THAT MIC. , IT IS NOT RETRO AND EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1? >> THAT'S THE TIMEFRAME WE CAN WORK WITH AND IT'S NOT RETRO ALSO RETRO SERVE AS PURPOSE, RIGHT. WE'LL SEE HOW THAT WORKS LATELY,. >> LET'S WORK ON THAT, RIGHT. LET'S AGAIN. >> IT WAS A LOT TO BITE OFF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND NOW THAT WE HAVE MOVED PAST THAT. WE CAN PUT THE FOCUS OVER HERE. THERE IS SO MUCH WORK TO GET TO THIS POINT. I APPRECIATE TAKING IT IN THESE STEPS. >> THE ORIGINAL MOTION. >> AND. >> SAY AYE. >> OKAY. [8. Discuss and consider potential grant projects eligible under FEMA Building Resilient Infrastructure Communities (BRIC) grant program.] [04:20:01] MARIA. ARE YOU BACK? >> , MARIA IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT FEMA AS IT PERTAINS TO BUILD BRIC FOR BUILDING RESILIENT INFRASTRUCTURE COMMUNITIES. WOULD YOU SHARE WITH THE COURT A BIT ABOUT BRIC, TIME TABLE WHO IS HELPING US AND MAYBE SUMMARIZE THE MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH THOSE SPECIALISTS. >> SORRY I GOT CAUGHT ON A PHONE CALL AND NOT RUN DOWN STAIRS IN TIME. FEMA HAD THE ANNOUNCEMENT BRIC BUILDING RESILIENT INFRASTRUCTURE COMMUNITIES. THIS IS NATIONWIDE. THERE IS A BILLION DOLLARS AVAILABLE IN THIS FUND AND BECAUSE IT IS SO COMPETITIVE AND SO BIG WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO BRING OUR PROJECT TO COURT. SO BRIC WILL INCREASE RESILIENCE AND REDUCE THE INJURIES AND LOSS OF LIFE AND REDUCE DAMAGE TO AND DESTRUCTION TO PROPERTY CRITICAL SERVICES AND INFRASTRUCTURE FROM NATURAL HAZARDS AND EFFECTS FROM CLIENT CHANGE. THERE IS SOME PRIORITIES THAT FEMA IS LOOKING TO FUND THIS YEAR AND THOSE PRIORITIES ARE TO INCENTIVIZE HAZARD RISK ACTIVITIES THAT MITIGATE RISK TO PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, MITIGATE RISK TO ONE OR COMMUNITY LIFE LINES. INCORPORATE NATURE BASED SOLUTIONS. AND ENHANCE RESILIENCE AND ADAPTATION. THIS COMPETITION IS ALLOWING APPLICANTS TO SUBMIT UP TO $50 MILLION IN A GRANT APPLICATION BUT THERE IS A 25% MATCH THAT IS REQUIRED FOR THE PROGRAM. IF YOU RECALL, THE, WE WENT OUT FOR GRANT APPLICATION AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT ALL THE WAY TO CLOSE OUT FOUR COMPETITIVE GRANTS. BRIC WAS LISTED IN THE RST AND AWARDED TO HAGERTY AND EXECUTED ON OCTOBER 18TH. THE DUE DATE FOR BRIC IS APPROACHING. IT HAS A TWO STEP PROCESS AND WHILE THE DEADLINE IS NOT UNTIL THE 28TH WE HAVE TO SUBMIT THE PROJECT TO THE FIRST LEVEL OF REVIEW BY DECEMBER 1. SO, IT WOULD BE A THREE-YEAR PROJECT AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW WE DID HAVE A PRELIMINARY MEETING WITH HAGERTY AND THREW OUT IDEAS BECAUSE THE DEADLINE IS PAST APPROACHING WE TRIED TO GO BACK AND SEE THAT HAVE SCOPE THE WORK AND THE PROJECTS FOR THE HURRICANE HARVEY GRANT AND THOSE THE BIGGER PROJECTS WERE THE LIVING BREAK WATERS PROJECT AND COASTAL PARK. WE THROUGH OUT THE IDEA OF HILL TOP TO HAGERTY. WE HAD A PRELIMINARY MEETING AFTER GETTING TO REVIEW THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION AND THEY FEEL LIKE THE LIVING SHORELINES PROJECT IS MEETS THE BRIC CRITERIA THE BEST WE CAN PUT FORWARD BECAUSE THERE IS SUCH A BIG COMMITMENT. THERE IS A 25% MATCH FOR THE BRANCH AND COMMUNITY COMMITMENT TO THE PROJECT THROUGH, YOU KNOW THE HEART REDUCE INSTITUTE AND A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE PROGRAM THAT WE CAN FEEL LIKE WE GET A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR. IF YOU REMEMBER, AND THE APPLICATION WAS A JOINT APPLICATION BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY AND THE PORT AUTHORITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. THERE IS A VESTED INTEREST THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI HAS A VESTED INTEREST WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BREAK WATER AREA. AND ENGLE SIDE ON THE BAY AND BECAUSE OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WE HAVE TO CUT THOSE OUT AND FOCUS ON NORTH BEACH. THERE IS SO MUCH ENGINEERING ADD THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF WHAT A LIVING SHORELINE WOULD DO AND THE COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY WITH HURRICANE SEASON, WE WERE LUCKY. SO THAT KIND OF PROJECT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BUT WE WANTED BECAUSE IT IS A BIG COMPETITION WE WANTED TO START THROWING THE IDEAS OUT TO THE COMMISSIONER'S [04:25:06] COURT TO START THE APPLICATION AND BRING THAT OR A ROUGH DRAFT TO THE COURT ON THE 17TH. >> GREAT JOB. THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS THAT THIS IS A SUPER TIGHT TIMEFRAME BUT WE HAVE THIS ADVANTAGE. ON THE HILL TOP. THE TEAM IS LIKE I'M NOT SURE THIS WILL WORK. BUT THIS IS MUCH MORE THAN BUILDING A COMMUNITY CENTER. IT IS ABOUT A SUSTAINABILITY. AND WILL THIS CONCEPT GET SOMEONE'S ATTENTION. SO IN ORDER TO THIS IS RELATABLE IT ITEM NUMBER 13 IT WILL BE IMPORTANT IF WE CONSIDER THAT, THAT -- THAT WE WORK WITH DAVID RICHTER ON THAT. 50MILLION IS THE MAXIMUM. THE ONLY SUGGESTION TO MARIA, WE'RE GOING TO DIG DEEPER TO SEE IF HE WE CAN HAVE TWO APPLICATIONS IN AT THE SAME TIME. YES WE CAN OF COURSE. BUT THERE IS A STRATEGY THAT SAYS PUT YOUR BEST FOOD FORWARD. GET BEHIND A PROJECT. BUT THIS ONE IS SO DIFFERENT THAT IT MAY BE GOOD TO GET FEED BACK. WE'LL WANT TO APPLY FOR OTHER GRANTS WITH REGARDS TO HILL TOP BECAUSE IT IS UNUSUAL. THIS MAY BE GOOD EVEN IF IT DOESN'T GET US WHAT WE WANT WHICH IS DOLLARS. BUT -- I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT THE COMMISSIONER SAYS ABOUT THAT BUT ON THE BREAK WATERS. WE THINK THAT THAT WOULD BODE WELL INSIDE A BRIC. THEY ASK WHAT ARE YOU PROTECTING. THAT'S THE OTHER QUESTION, WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE ARE YOU PROTECTING. I'M NOT SURE WE CAN ANSWER THAT POS IFLY ON HILL TOP BUT WE CAN USE OTHER METRICS, RIGHT TO BOOST OUR SCORE BUT LIVING BREAK WATERS WE HAVE THE PERRYMAN GROUP REPORT AND THAT REPRESENTS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT WE'RE PROTECTING SO. THAT'S THE BACKGROUND. WE WANTED TO BRING IT TO COURT WEES HAVE -- WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION. WAY GET MICHAEL TO COME TO THE PODIUM. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY. THE ITEM THAT YOU ARE REFERENCING IS THE CONTRACT THAT WAS AWARDED TO HAGERTY, I BELIEVE THEY HAVE A WORK AUTHORIZATION DOES THAT COME ON THE 17TH WHEN YOU BRING THE OTHER INFORMATION? >> THE WORK AUTHORIZATION GO THROUGH THE JUDGE'S OFFICIALS WE CAN BRING IT TO COURT. WE NEED TO GET STARTED. I DIDN'T KNOW THE MECHANISM. WE WANTED TO WEIGH IN ON THE PROJECTS. BRIC. HAGERTY WON AND THAT IS PROBABLY THE MOST COMPETITIVE BUT YOU DON'T SEE THE 50 MILLION PRICE TAG. , I WILL OPEN IT UP TO, THEY SAID THE COMFORT STATIONS WOULD NOT SCORE WELL IT'S NOT A WOW FACTOR FOR NATURE WAYS BASED SOLUTIONS THAT IS ELEVATING THOSE I DIDN'T MEAN TO CLOSE OVER THE HILL TOP. BECAUSE WE'RE STILL IN LINE THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT AND THE DATA IT TAKES TO ENTER NO THE [04:30:05] SOFTWARE IS EXTENSIVE. AND SOME BRIC NEXT YEAR IT IS A PROGRAM, I THINK HILL TOP IS BETTER POISED TO HOLD, LET SOME OF THE DESIGN WORK, YOU KNOW BE DONE AND THEN IT IS A VERY GOOD POTENTIAL PROJECT. >> AND WE'RE GETTING TO DO IT RIGHT IF THE COURT WILL SUGGEST TODAY THAT THESE ARE THE BEST PROJECTS TO GO FORWARD. WE HAVE ALL THE DATA FOR THIS YEAR. NEXT YEAR WHICH IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, WE IT IS EXCITING WE CAN BUILD A GREAT OPTION. , YOU WANT TO PUT A HOLD ON THAT AND PROCEED? >> NO, SIR. NO, NO. >> THAT'S THE OPPOSITE. ON ITEM NUMBER 8 I'M IDENTIFYING THAT I BELIEVE THAT HILL TOP WOULD BE A GREAT PROJECT FOR BRIC FUNDING FOR FY-22. BUT FOR FY 21 IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS WE SHOULD USE THE LIVING BREAK WATER GRANT BECAUSE IT HAS A MATCH THAT'S OUT THERE OF $30 MILLION IN THE COMMUNITY AND IT IS READY. IT'S NOT 100% READY BUT IN GREAT SHAPE TO BE ABLE TO RUN WITH THAT PROJECT. BUT I WANTED TO YOU KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE THE PROJECT FOR 22 WHICH WE STARTED WORKING ON NOW IS WHAT I'M SAYING. >> WE START WORKING ON IT NOW IT'S NOT READY TO SUBMIT IN 30 DAYS. >> I UNDERSTAND, JUDGE. YOU AND MARIA ARE THE EXPERTS ON THIS. WELL IT IS SUPER EXCITING BECAUSE I MEAN LIKE I SAID WHEN WE FIRST TOLD THEM. I DON'T KNOW THIS WOULD WORK. THE MORE WE TOLD THEM THE AYE IT WAS LIKE A LIGHT BULLET BE WENT OFF. THEY WILL CONTACT YOU AND WORK ON IT BUT IT WILL NOT BE SUBMITTED UNTIL NEXT YEAR. I WOULD LIKE A MOTION. >> MOVE. >> SECOND. >> SO, THE MOTION COMMISSIONER BRENT CHESNEY TO PURSUE THE LIVING BREAK WATER FOR 21 AND 22 HILL TOP COMMUNITY CENTER. >> THE MOTION AND A SECOND. YOU HAVE SOME ORDERS NOW. SAY AYE. AYE. OKAY, GREAT. >> THANK YOU. >>> IF ANYONE WANTS TO HELP, WE CAN USE THE EXTRA HANDS. I SAY THAT COUNTY-WIDE IT'S NOT LIKE A -- IT IS THE MOST EXCITING PROJECT IN THE WATER THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS, I'M OFFERING THIS TO, THIS IS EXTRA CURRICULAR YOU DON'T GET PAID BUT A WONDERFUL GRANT IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED TO WORK ON. [9. Discuss and consider rescinding Order finding for the method of procurement (request for qualifications) for licensed professional Engineers for engineering services to provide program management to oversee projects, manage resources and teams to successfully execute Capital Improvement Programs (CIP).] >> I INCOME 9 AND 10 A CLEAN UP. >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION. 9 IS THE RECISION OF AN ORDER TO CLEAN UP A COUPLE OF WORDS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE PROPERLY ARTICULATED LAST TIME. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? >> RESCIND THIS TO THEN PUT FORTH THE CLEAN UP. TO RESCIND AND SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. [10. Discuss and consider approval of a finding for the method of procurement (request for qualifications) for licensed professional Engineers for engineering services to provide program management to oversee projects, manage resources and teams for unassigned projects.] >> AYE. >> ON 10 THE CLEAN UP THE ORDER THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU WITH THE RIGHT WORDS DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. [11. Discuss and consider termination of the Hazel Bazemore Dog Park Project.] AYE. >>> THEN NOW THAT MOVES TO US NUMBER 11. WE'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS NOW. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER TERMINATION OF THE HAZEL BASEMORE DOG PARK PROJECT. AND I KNOW THERE WILL BE SOME I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION BUT WE HAVE SOME CONCERNS, WE HAVE INFORMATION AND THERE IS MOTION [04:35:06] , AND WE HAVE. I DON'T HAVE A, CAN WE PUT THIS TO STUFF, AND IS THERE ANY INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO BE PRESENTED AT THIS TIME ON THE ITEM 11. CAN I RECEIVE IT AS A RESOURCE IN THE SESSION. SO WE CAN GET SOME LIKE IF THEY HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT THE STATUS AND IF IT DOES NOT THEY MAY ASK QUESTIONS. [12. Discuss and consider removing L.A.N.(Lockwood, Andrews & Newnam, Inc.) as Project Management from the Hilltop Community Center Project.] >> I WILL MOVE ON I WILL MOVE ON DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REMOVING LOCKWOOD, ANDREWS & NEWMAN FROM HILL TOP COMMUNITY CENTER PROJECT. I'LL YIELD TO JENNY HERE. >> SKI THAT THE DISCUSSION BE PULLED TO EXECUTIVE BEFORE ANY PUBLIC DISCUSSION. >> I'LL JUST, EIGHT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WANTS TO REMOVE IT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. I WANT TO THEY ARE NOT, AND WE DO THE SAME THING. [14. Discuss and consider approval of a one-year Interlocal Agreement, beginning January 1, 2022, through December 31, 2022, between Nueces County and San Patricio regarding cost contribution for Intoxilyzer Program and Techinical Supervisor services.] WE WILL DEAL WITH THIS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND THE APPROVAL THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO EVERY YEAR IT IS REGARDING COST OF THE INTOXILYZER PROGRAM. 13. >> SORRY. >>> I'M SORRY. AND CAN I DO THIS SINCE I READ IT? IS THERE A REASON NOT TO MOVE FORWARD? >> IT IS AN ORDER I DIDN'T NOSE, JUDGE. YOU WANT TO HOLD ON. THE FUND SOURCE IS THE ONLY THING. >> I WILL PITCH TO DALE SINCE THIS IS OUT. >> IT IS A PROCESS AND THAT WE HAVE AND WITH THE. >> IT IS BUDGETED. , IT IS NOT A LARGE AMOUNT? >> THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND. >> SO MOVED. >> A MOTION AND. AND ITEM NUMBER 13. >> NUMBER 13 I SKIPPED OVER IS [13. Discuss and consider authorizing David Richter to proceed with the design development stage of the Hilltop Community Center Project.] TO DISCUSS AUTHORIZING DAVID RICHTER AND HILL TOP AND PROJECT. WE HAD THE NICE DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW AWESOME IT IS. AND EXCITED. >> WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED IT AS MONEY AS I WANT TO SAY YES WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY YES. WE DON'T HAVE A PROPOSAL FOR DESIGN DEVELOPMENT STAGE. WE'RE WAITING FOR IT AND I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THIS TO BRING IT BACK IT WOULD BE SMART FOR HIM TO GO OVER THE PROPOSAL HE WILL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. YOU CANNOT GET THERE UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS AND THE COST OF IT. >> THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. >> SO I WILL MAKE IT FOR NOVEH I WILL PUT NEW CHARGE OF CALLING HIM. >> ALL RIGHT. >> WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT. >> DID YOU MAKE THE MOTION? >> SECOND. [15. Discuss and consider adoption of Nueces County Policy regarding the Medical Examiner’s Office.] >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> OKAY. NUMBER 1 A IS SO WONDERFUL >> THIS IS BY OUR OWN REQUEST [04:40:01] AND READY TO GO RECEIVE ONE COMMENT I NEED TO LOOK IT UP. AND DID NOT LOOK IT UP. >> AND LOOK IT UP THE TIME PERIOD AND WE RECEIVED A CALL FROM THE ME WHO WAS UNDER THE WEATHER TODAY HE WANTED TO BE HERE AND POSSIBLE TO MOVE IT TO. >> OKAY. >> I'LL DEFER TO JENNY. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 17 I WANT TO KNOW THAT HE SAID TO ME THAT WE WERE GOOD EXCEPT FOR LET ME WORK ON THIS WHILE YOU ARE TALKING ON THIS. >> I SAW HIM ON EARLIER I DIDN'T KNOW. >> I DIDN'T KNOW EARLIER, HE WAS ON EARLIER. >> WE'RE PUTTING A LOT ON THE 1. >> IN ADDITION TO EVERYTHING ELSE I'M NOT SAYING HE CAN BRING IT BACK ON THE 17TH IF THERE IS A PROBLEM. >> SEE WHAT THE E-MAIL SAYS. >> , LET'S DO IT. GREAT TO HAVE HIM HERE. ONE LESS THING WE CAN. >> WE HAVE BEEN WAITING ON THIS. >> LET ME ASK THIS TO BUY THE JUDGE SOME TIME. AND IT IS LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE WAY WE HAVE ISSUES AS FAR AS ACCESS. RIGHT. ACCESS TO THE EXAMINATIONS S THAT FAIR? >> THAT'S A COMMON THING THAT WAS MENTIONED THROUGH THE, AND IN ADDITION TO POLLING UP WITH THAT AND I WASN'T SURE HOW IT WAS HANDLED WHEN I WORKED FOR THE STATE WE HAD CHILD FATALITIES AND WE DID INVESTIGATIONS ON THE CIVIL SIDE AND WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT WE HAD ACCESS WE WERE THERE ANY CIVIL INVOLVEMENT. AND FIVE YEARS INVOLVED I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE PRACTICE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACCESS ACCESS TO THE I THINK THAT LIKE I SAID CHILD FATALITIES. IS THAT AN ISSUE AS WELL ACCESSIBILITY OR DID WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE. >> WITH THAT. >> YOU AND WHOEVER. I'M SHARING MY BACKGROUND TO IT. AND LIKE WE SAID. WE HAD CHILD DEATHS TO GO ALLOY -- ALLOWED TO GO AND HAVE ACCESS AT THE ME TO BE THERE AND TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, DOCUMENT YOU KNOW AND PROVE UP BECAUSE THERE MAY BE OTHER KIDS IN THE HOME. I SEE THE POLICY. THERE WAS A ACCESS ISSUE AND DOES THIS ONLY APPLY ON THE CIVIL SIDE AND NEED TO BE INCLUDED. NEED TO BE INCLUDED ON THE CRIMINAL SIDE. ON THE CIVIL SIDE. DOES THAT NOT EVEN MATTER HERE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. >> FORGIVE ME I'M HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING EVERYTHING THAT YOU ARE SAYING. >> AND CPS? >> YES. CPS AND THE CIVIL SIDE AND YOU KNOW THAT HAPPEN. AND JUDGE BRENT CHESNEY, WHEN HE WAS JUDGE BACK THEN, AND THE POLICY PRESENTED TO US ADDRESSES I GUESS SPECIFICALLY LAW ENFORCEMENT AND IS THAT OUR ONLY WORRY OR NEED TO BE LANGUAGE TO INCLUDE ANYTHING DONE ON THE CIVIL SIDE. I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES WHEN I WAS AN INVESTIGATORS AND INVESTIGATORS NOW WILL WORK WITH THEIR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO ACCESS RECORDS AND INFORMATION AND IT WAS ALLOWED AS A COURTESY THAT I WAS PROCEEDINGS [04:45:09] IF THE POLICY OR NOT A NEED THAT TALKED ABOUT ACCESS. >> AND I AM NOT AWARE CPS NEEDING ACCESS TO THE AUTOPSIES AND CERTAINLY, WE DON'T. AND INVESTIGATING AND PROSECUTING THE CASES. THEY ARE TANGENTIALLY RELATED. ALL THE TISSUES COMING UP WERE COMING UP FROM THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF THINGS. AND THEIR ABILITY TO HAVE TING A SET SO THAT IS WHAT THEY WERE FOCUSED TOWARDS. , THEY MAY HAVE CHANGED I HAVE NOT BEEN AN INVESTIGATORS BUT OUT FROM THE AGENCY IT IS UNDER FIVE YEARS. IF THAT WAS INCLUDED OR NEEDED AND A PRACTICE. WAS NOT SURE IF THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO OTHER INVESTIGATORS BUT I KNOW I WOULD SAY A NEED TO GET INFORMATION IF THERE WAS A NEED. >>> I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT TODAY. I HAVE A REQUEST. IT IS COMING RIGHT NOW. THEY REQUEST 90 DAYS AND LOOK AT NUMBER 4. IS 90 DAYS UNREASONABLE. >> THE REASON WE WERE SHOOTING FOR LESS THAN 90 DAYS, JUDGE N A CRIMINAL CASE, WE DO NOT HAVE IT INDICTED BEFORE 90 DAYS ON THE 90TH DAY A DEFENDANT WHO IS INCARCERATED IS ENTITLED TO A BOND THEY CAN MAKE WHICH OFTEN TIMES WILL BE NOTHING. SO THAT'S WHY OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO TRY TO GET IT SOONER THAN THE 90 DAYS TO GIVE US TIME TO GET THE CASE FILED FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PREPARE IT AND PRESENT IT TO THE GRAND JURY. >> WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO LANGUAGE THAT SAID 90 DAYS -- THE WAY YOU HAVE IT BUT WHERE; HOW ABOUT 75. >> JUST SOMETHING THAT GETS THEM A I WILL CALL THE QUESTION SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND HE CAN COME TALK TO US IF THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT IS COMPELLING HE CAN TALK TO US ON THE 17TH BUT I THINK THAT. THIS IS AN OLD E-MAIL WE HAD THE 90 DAY COME UP BEFORE. BUT HE SAID THAT THE TOXICOLOGY THERE WILL BE THE 90 DAYS IS NOT FEASIBLE. CAN WE HAVE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS -- >> LET'S SAY 75 DAYS OR GIVE THEM SPLIT THE BABY. IS THAT. >> YES WHAT HE HAS TO DO IF IT NOT WO WORKS NOTIFIES US SAY SOMETHING WILL NOT WORK HERE. >> WILL YOU SAY SOMETHING? >> I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT'S GETS IT WITHIN 90 DAYS BUT GIVES THEM 15 DAYS AND 15 MORE THAN WE HAVE NOW MAKE IT 75 GETTING IT TO A GRAND JURY BEFORE THAT TIME PERIOD. I MEAN THAT'S THIS IS WHY IT CAME TO THE COURT. [04:50:08] >> IF THEY SAY THAT'S GIVE TO DO BUT I GET TRYING TO MEET THEM AND MAYBE DO IT HALFWAY AND 75 DAYS IF THAT DOES NOT WORK CAN YOU BRING IT BACK AND REVISE IT I WANT TO GET THIS PASSED SO WE HAVE IT IN PLACE. WE'RE BEEN WAITING. >> 75, WOULD THAT WORK? >> YES, JUDGE, 75 WOULD BE FINE THAT GIVES US TWO WEEKS. >> LET'S DO 75 AS A -- JENNY, WOULD YOU REACH OUT TO HIM TOMORROW AND SAY WE DID 75. WE WERE NOT TRYING TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT YOU COULD NOT BE HERE WITH US BUT YOU CAN MAKE A COMPELLING ARGUMENT TO MAKE THAT MODNY CAGES IF YOU FEEL THE NEED. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? >> THE COURT CAN VOTE TODAY WITH THE MODIFICATION. >> I WOULD AMEND TO SAY 75 DAYS AND THEN WITH THAT I WOULD MOTION WE PASS IT. GIVE THAT TO YOU SHORTLY. >> I JUST NEED A SECOND. >> OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. KEEP US POSTED ON THIS MICHELLEH OUT TO HIM AS WELL. NOW IT IS PASSED YOU HAVE A REAL POLICY. WE'LL DO THE SAME HERE. >> I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE IT HANGING. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> COULD I OFFER I THINK ABOUT WANTED TO GO BACK GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION A COUPLE OF THINGS I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY OKAY WITH THE COURT TO GO OUT TO HAZEL BASEMORE AND LOOK AT THE PARK BEFORE WE GET INTO DISCUSSION. I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE AT ALL WITH, I THINK THEY DO GREAT WORK I UNDERSTAND THE LOCATION AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THERE IS A MOTION COULD THE MOTION BE WITHDRAWN AND TABLE IT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING I WILL GO OUT AND GET WITH THE COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ AND LOOK AT IT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE MADE REPRESENTATIONS TO THE COUNTY HE IS THE COMMISSIONER I'M TORN WITHOUT LOOKING AT IT. >> I'M NOT TORN HAVING INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED IN PUBLIC YET BUT FOR HOW SOMEONE FEELS. LET'S SEE WHAT IT REVEALS. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE PERSPECTIVE OF THAT WHICH IS NOT LEGAL LIKE, TELL ME WHAT THE STATUS IS, TELL ME WHEN THE PROJECT COULD BE COMPLETE. TELL ME WHAT IS ON SITE. WHAT HAS BEEN ORDERED, TELL ME WHY IT HASN'T BEEN FINISHED, IS THERE A DELAY? A WORK ORDER THAT'S BEEN STOPPED? IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT IS IT THAT -- YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, WHAT ARE THE FACTS. THERE HAS NOT BEEN ENOUGH PRESENTATION OF THE FACTS AND I REACHED OUT TO CAROL PRUITT AND HE COULD NOT BE HERE. HE IS GOING TO BY THE END OF THE WEEK ISSUE A DOCUMENT THAT WE CAN RELY UPON WHICH IS IMPORTANT AND THEN I FINALLY HAD AN ENLIGHTENMENT MOMENT I DON'T THINK THE COURT HAS HAD THIS ARTICULATED CLEARLY AND THAT IS THAT THE DOG PARK IS CONSIDERED COMPLETELY ADA COMPLIANT IF THE PARKING LOT AND THE SIDEWALK ADJACENT, I'LL TELL YOU TO ACCESS IT, ARE ALL COMPLIANT THE COURT HAS AUTHORIZED NO MONEY OR CONTRACT TO ADDRESS ADA COMPLIANCE ISSUES AT THE PARKING LOT. THEREFORE UNDER NO-NO GAL AX CRY COULD YOU GET AN ADA COMPLIANT DOG PARK WITHOUT THE COURT ADDRESSING A PARKING LOT ISSUE. SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND. SO WHEN YOU SAY SOMETHING IS NOT COMPLIANT. YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WAS GIVEN TO AS A CONTRACTOR, I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS NOT COMPLIANT. I'M SAYING THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN -- I WOULD LIKE TO PUT A SERIES OF ITEMS ON NEXT TIME THAT WILL GIVE US FACTS HAVE MR. PRUITT EXPLAIN WHY I SAID WHAT I SAID. DIFFICULT YOU DON'T ASK THE RIGHT DIRECTION IT MAY NOT BE A COMPLETE ANSWER. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT UNTIL RECENTLY THERE IS NO WAY HE [04:55:01] WOULD EVER SAY IT IS COMPLIANT BECAUSE THE COURT HAS NOT AUTHORIZED ANY MONEY TOWARD AS PARKING LOT. I'M PUT THAT ON THE NEXT TIME TO DISCUSS THE PARKING LOT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE -- THE PARK IS NOT COMPLIANT FOR ADA THAT'S SOMETHING WE PROMISED THE DEPARTMENT OF JUST TIS IN THE SETTLEMENT AND RELEASE. WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE PARKING LOT IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THE PARK ITSELF. THERE IS SOME GOOD DISCUSSION HERE IN THE SENSE WE NEVER HAD THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT. WE NEED TO DO WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY. IF WE GET SOME REAL, YOU KNOW FACTS THAT WOULD BE GREAT. MAYBE WE CAN SHORTLY. I'M HAPPY TO GIVE YOU TIME TO GO OUT THERE. IF I CAN HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO HAVE A PRESENTATION. >> AND WHY WAS THE COUNTY ENGINEERING INVITED TO THE MEETING THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE AND ENGINEERING HAS GIVEN EVIDENCE SHE KNOWS THAT IT WAS NOT CORRECT ADM AND ENGINEERING THE CONTRACTS WITHIN THEMSELVES AND I JUST -- I FEEL AS LONG AS IT HAS BEEN GOING. I NEVER KNEW ABOUT ADM. I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE BUILDING MAINTENANCE PEOPLE GOING ON 11 MONTHS I HEARD NOTHING BUT COMPLAINTS SO I JUST DON'T HAVE THE CONFIDENCE IN THE COMPANY TO BUILD THIS THE BEST. I DON'T FEEL THAT THE PARK WILL BENEFIT. I HAD CALLS THAT THEY DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A DOG PARK AND THE COUNTY SPENDING THE MONEY. THEY ARE EQUAL TO FIX THE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS. >> THAT'S THE QUESTION I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. I DOESN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE COMPANY BUT I HEARD YOU SAY ARE YOU QUESTIONING WHETHER WE NEED TO HAVE A DOG PARK, THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO PAUSE BECAUSE THAT'S THE MORE I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU ARE WRONG. ARE YOU THE COMMISSIONER AND IN THE WRONG LOTION THAT TO ME IS OR OF A COMPELLING ARGUMENT. I WILL NOT GET INTO THE ADM STUFF. IN MY EXPERIENCE I DON'T HAVE THAT -- I DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM ON STUFF I WORKED WITH THEM ON. I'M NOT DISCOUNTING WHAT ARE YOU SAYING. MY REASON TO PAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO GO OUT AND LOOK AT IT AND SEE IT AND SEE WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS IS ON WHY IT'S NOT A GOOD PLACE AND HOW MUCH HAVE WE SPENT ON IT. THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WHAT IS THE LOSS LEADER, I WOULD NOT VOTE BECAUSE OF THE COMPANY INVOLVED I WOULD MAYBE NOT VOTE NOT TO DO IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE RIGHT PLACE OR TIME OR, YOU KNOW THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT. THAT'S ALL I WAS TRYING TO GET TO. I'M HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING TO MY PRECINCT I WANT TO IT HAS BEEN ON THERE FOR A WHILE AND WE NEED TO RESOLVE IT. >> I FEEL THE SAME WAY, I WANT TO BE IN THE POSITION 11 MONTHS IT HAS BEEN GOING ON. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE LONG BEFORE I GOT HERE. WHEN I CAME HERE I SAW PROBLEMS, I NEVER HEARD OF ANYBODY BUILDING OR EVEN, THEY HAVE NEVER DONE THE DESIGN PART OF IT. WHO WOULD DESIGN IT NOT DESIGNING THE ADA I WOULD LIKE THE COUNTY ENGINEER IF WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS. [05:00:08] >> I'LL TAKE HIM. I WANT TO LOOK AT IT. >> AND. >> NO PROBLEM. AND AND HE'S ALWAYS INVITED TO THE MEETINGS. >> AND THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM I WOULD LIKE. EVERYTHING AND THEY ARE ENGINEER AND SHOULD KNOW. >> WE KNOW YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP THERE. WHAT WE'LL DO. AND DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A, THE MOTION IS AHEAD OF THEM. AND THAT'S THE MOTION THEY HAVE TO WITHDRAW IT OR BE VOTED ON. LET ME TABLE IT. IF THEY COULDN'T WANT TO, I GUESS I'LL NOT VOTE ON THE MOTION. >> TABLE IT I'LL TABLE THE SECOND BUT, I DON'T KNOW SAY THIS BEHIND DOORS BUT THE MEETING THEY HAD, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WHOLE THING, I DON'T KNOW WHO HIRED THEM. >> WE DID. >> AND I KNOW THAT DURING THE MEETING I KNOW I WAS TOLD THEY WERE A CONTRACTOR. >>> HE WAS OUR ENGINEER AND HIRING TO BE THE CONTRACTOR. THEN A LADY THERE SAID SHE WAS THE APPROVAL MANAGER AND HIRED TO BE THE PROGRAM MANAGER AND CONTRACTING AND AT THAT TIME THEY DIDN'T SEEN HAVE. THEY STARTED IT WITHOUT A DESIGN. HE COULD NOT DO A DESIGN FOR US. THAT'S AN ISSUE WHEN SOMEBODY IS ALL THREE WHERE IS THE DESIGN. THAT WAS AN ISSUE AT THE MEETING. AND AND I'M NOT SAYING IT IS ABM'S FAULT ONE PERSON CANNOT BE ALL THREE OF THOSE. >> I AGREE THAT'S AN INACCURATE STATEMENT BECAUSE I ASKED. >> I WAS THERE AT THE MEETING. >> EXCUSE ME ONE MINUTE IT IS BECAUSE WE ASKED, WE HAVE ASKED THEM TO PRODUCE A DOCUMENT THAT ST STATES WHETHER MR. WHEATON WAS HIRED; HE'S NOT BEEN HIRED. >> AND THAT'S -- THAT IS. >> SOMEBODY IS LYING THEN. >> IF YOU EXCUSE PEE ONE SECOND I'M SAYING WHAT YOU HEARD IS INCORRECT. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT ABM HAS -- THEY SAY, I HAVE ASKED. I HAVE ASKED THE PARTIES I'LL CALL ON YOU AS SOON AS I FINISH IF YOU DON'T MIND THANK YOU, I APOLOGIZE. NO WORRIES. I HAVE ASKED YOUR QUESTIONS I THINK THEY'RE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS TO GET ANSWERED AND THE ANSWER THAT I HAVE RECEIVED IN WRITING IS THAT MR. WHEATON DOES NOT WORK FOR ABM. IF THERE WAS AS IN UNDERSTANDING THAT'S WHAT IT IS. YOUR CONCERN IS VALID IF IT IS TRUE. HE IS NEITHER THE PROJECT MANAGER NOR HAS HE BEEN HIRED BY ABM HE WORKS FOR ONE ENTITY. >> PAID BY ABM. >> I ASKED THE QUESTION THEY'RE HERE IN THE ROOM. THEY HAVE IN WRITING TOLD ME HE DOES NOT WORK FOR ABM ON THE -- HE DOES NOT WORK FOR THEM ON THE DOG PARK PROJECT. THEY HAVE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE INSIDE THE ENERGY SAVINGS [05:05:04] PERFORMANCE CONTRACT THERE IS A RELATIONSHIP BUT NOT ON THE DOG PARK. I HAVE ASKED THAT IT IS AN IMPORTANT QUESTION BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE IT TRUE IF YOU MISUNDERSTOOD. >> JUDGE, EXCUSE ME. >> IT DOES NOT MATTER THEY ARE CERTIFYING IN WRITING IT'S NOT -- THAT'S NOT THE CASE. >> I'M TRIALING TRYING TO TELL YOU THERE IS THAT COMMUNICATION OF WHAT YOU ARE ASKING AND I BELIEVE ONE CAN PRESENT IT TO YOU AND MAYBE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS THE INFORMATION. >> WHAT WE'LL DO ASK FOR THAT WE'LL TAKE IT UP IN EXECUTIVE SESSION IN A BIT. WE'LL ASK FOR THAT COPY I WANT YOU SEE TO KNOW THAT, AGAIN, WE NEVER HEARD ANY ECONOMIC DATA OR STATUS AND I ASKED THREE BASIC QUESTIONS, WHAT IS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF CANCELING THE CONTRACT. WHAT IS THE STATUS IF ALLOWED TO PROCEED WHEN IT COULD BE COMPLETED. AND WOULD IT, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO BE ADA COMPLIANT. IF THE DOG PARK IS INSIDE I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THE COURT WOULD NEED TO HIRE SOMEBODY ELSE TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE PARKING LOT AND ADJACENT SIDEWALKS TO ACCESS THE SPLASH PAD IS ADA COMPLIANT. THAT'S WHAT I ASKED BECAUSE NOBODY SEEMS TO WANT TO GET THAT INFORMATION IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN. THAT'S WHAT WE CAN AGREE ON. THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THE COURT WOULD MAKE TO DETERMINE MATE THE MARK. ONE NEEDS TO KNOW THAT, AND NUMBER 2 IF ALLOWED TO PROCEED HOW LONG WOULD THAT TAKE TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT AND ARE THERE ANY HICCUPS IN THE SUPPLY CHAIN. NUMBER 3 HAS IT BEEN PLEASED BY CAROL PRUITT AND WHAT ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO MAKE THE FACILITY ADA COMPLIANT. THOSE ARE QUESTIONS. IF YOU GET THE INFORMATION, CAN YOU GET RID OF ALL THE0ER STUFF, THEY ARE GOSSIP BUT NOT BASED ON FACTS OR REALITY. I WANT TO BRING THE FACTS I HOPE THAT YOU WOULD WANT THE ANSWERS TO 1, 2, 3, 4 SOME OF WHICH WE CAN GET BUT IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN OUR PACKET. >> , TELL WHAT YOU IS GOING ON YOU CUT ME OFF OR PUSH IT TO THE BACK BURNER INSTRUCT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. THEY DON'T SHOW UP. WE TRY TO WE DID GIVE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY THE DOCUMENTATION THAT ARE YOU ASKING FOR THAT WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEMS. YOU NEED THE ANSWERS. >> THIS SOUNDS LIKE A -- >> JUDGE THE COMMISSIONER DOES NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE PARK HE DOES NOT WANT THE PARK THAT'S HIS CALL. THAT'S HIS PRECINCT. >> BUT YOU'RE ASKING US TO VOTE WE NEED THE INFORMATION SO WE CAN SUPPORT OR NOT THE WAY WE DO THAT BY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE FACTS ARE. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY OF THAT INFORMATION. >> HE DOESN'T -- WHAT FACTS DO YOU WANT? >> I WANT TO KNOW, I WANT TO KNOW THAT $200,000 WOULD BE WASTED. I DON'T WANT TO WASTE T TAXPAYER MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT'S READY TO BE COMPLETEMENT HE DOESN'T GET TO JUST IF IT IS READY TO BE COMPLETED I WOULD WANT TO KNOW THAT SO WOULD YOU, I WOULD IMAGINE. >> BEEN YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE COURT AND ECONOMIC IMPACT TO CANCELING THAT PROJECT, THAT'S IMPORTANT. I MEAN WERE YOU WORRIED ABOUT A CHICK-FIL-A SANDWICH LAST WEEK I THINK IF SOMETHING IMPACTS $100,000. I'M SAYING IT IS ALL RELEVANT. >> JUDGE I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT 2.35 BUT IT CAME OUT TO 1000 SOMETHING AND THE OTHER MEALS WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT I'M VERY WORRIED FOR TO YOU FEED PEOPLE SAVING LIVES BUT THE IMPORTANT THING, COMMISSIONER THAT NOBODY IS PUSHING IT TO THE BACK BURNER YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND NOT GETTING INFORMATION THAT'S A PERSONAL PROBLEM. >> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. >> YOU SAID WERE YOU NOT GETTING THE MEETINGS YOU NEED CONSULT WITH HER OR ABM. >> I WANT TO HAVE WHAT YOU CALL [05:10:02] OUR DAY IN COURT. LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS AND THEST COME OUT. >> OKAY. WHERE IT ENDS UP. THAT'S GREAT. THEN HOW ABOUT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THE TRUTH. WHY DON'T I ASK THE THREE QUESTIONS I JUST ASKED OF HIM SO I CAN MAKE NOTES IF AS LONG AS AND JUAN IS HERE. CAN YOU ASK A QUESTION OF JUAN AS WELL WE CAN GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND ASK. I ASKED THREE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I WANTED TO NOSE THEM. SO I CAN BE PREPARED FOR COURT. THE FIRST WAS IF YOU WERE ALLOWED TO PROCEED WITH THE DOG PARK, WHAT IS OUR TIME TABLE ARE THERE ANY ISSUES OR PROBLEMS THAT YOU WOULD THINK WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO DISCLOSE, I WILL NOT GIVE THEM TO YOU BUT THE SECOND ONE THAT IS SUPER RELATED IS WHAT IS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THE COUNTY IF WE SAID TODAY WE'RE GOING TO VOTE NOT TO PROCEED WITH THE DOG PARK. THOSE SHOULD BE TAKEN AS A 1-2 AND ASK MY THIRD ABOUT A DA. >> MICHAEL MORIARTY. THE VICE PRESIDENT OF OPERATIONS. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ABM. AS FAR AS TIME COMMITMENT, WE BELIEVE TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT IT IS FOUR TO SIX WEEKS. SIX WEEKS ON THE OUTSIDE IF WE WERE GIVEN THE DRAWINGS TO THAT HAVE BEEN UNDER DESIGN BY THE COUNTY. ONCE THOSE ARE RELEASED WE CAN REMOBILIZE AND COMPLETE IN 4 TO SIX WEEKS. IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW TO THE SECOND QUESTION, ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT AND MATERIALS HAVE BEEN PURCHASED. THE SUBCONTRACTORS HAVE BEEN PAID UP THROUGH ABOUT 200 TO $230,000 OUT OF A $408,000 PROJECT. RIGHT. SO. THE BENEFIT TO THAT IS EVERYBODY HEARD SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND LOGISTICS. WE'RE READY TO MOBILIZE THEODORE PUT IT IN THE GROUND AND DELIVER A PRODUCT. WE NEED ENGINEERING DONE; YOU'RE THE CONTRACTOR. >> WE ARE THE GC, CORRECT. >> AND DOES MR. WHEATON WORK FOR ABM? ON THE DOG PARK? >> ON THE DOG PARK CURRENTLY RON WHEATON DOES NOT HAVE A CONTRACT TO SUPPLY SERVICES TO ABM. >> DOES HE WORK FOR ABM NOT A HAZEL BASEMORE. >> HE HAS NEVER BEEN A CONTRACTOR, THE DOCUMENTS WERE SENT TO JENNY AT THE COURT BY OUR OUR ATTORNEY. THE CONSTRUCTION WORK IS HANDLED BY TAS. THE DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN DELIVERED U THE THIRD ONE WHICH IS KIND OF HOW THE WHOLE THING STARTED THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT THE DESIGN NOT HAVING ADA COMPLIANCE AND THERE WAS THE THAT IT PASSED MUSTER WHEN SENT TO CAROL PRUITT THERE WAS MODIFICATIONS TO A RAMP AND THAT THE RAMP MODIFICATION WAS MADE BUT CAROL PRUITT MADE ME UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT THE COUNTY PAID FOR DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PARKING LOT. HE IS NOT GOING TO CERTIFY THE DOG PARK UNTIL THE COUNTY MAKES ALLOWANCES FOR -- THE COUNTY MAKES APPROPRIATIONS FOR THAT PARKING LOT. THE THEORY BEING YOU CANNOT GET AN ADA PARK CERTIFIED UNTIL CAN YOU PARK IN ADA THAT'S GOOD FOR THE PARK THE WHOLE THING. THE COMPLEX, RIGHT? NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY THERE WAS A DISCONNECT ON THE ADA PIECE. IS THAT WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND AS WELL. FROM FROM THE CERTIFICATION. WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE PROJECT PEOPLE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, THERE IS NOT A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION WITH RESPECT TO ADA COMPLIANCE ON A PARK. , THERE ARE WOULD OFFICIALS AND THE DESIGN AND THEN JUAN ASKED WE GET CAROL PRUITT TO DO A REVIEW OF THE COUNTY THAT WE APPLAUD. THERE WERE MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO ALLOW FOR ACCESS INTO THE PARK. AND THEN MAYBE ACCESS AND INSIDE THE PARK OVERALL ADD RIGHT NOW, WE BELIEVE THAT THE [05:15:03] PHYSICAL PARK FOR ACCESS THE ADA ACCESS. THAT YOU ARE CORRECT. THAT WAS TO CORRECT I DON'T HAVE THE HISTORY AND TALK ABOUT THE FEATURES FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND SHOULD BE THE ADA COMPLIANCE THE PARK AND THE WALKWAYS THERE NOW CREATING THE PARK. >> ONE SECOND. >> I WANT TO CLEAR THE RECORD EVEN THOUGH THE JANITORIAL SERVICE IS WHAT YOU ARE KNOWN FOR IN THE HOUSTON AIRPORT THE INTERCONTINENTAL, AND THE AND OUR, THAT IS UP WITH OF THE, ARE YOU COMPLIANT. >> YOU DO MANY VERTICAL TYPE OF SERVICES, JANITORIAL BEING ONE OF THEM. >> JANITORIAL, LANDSCAPING, EDUCATION. WE HAVE E-MOBILITY. WE HAVE OUR ENERGY BUSINESS. WE HAVE OUR HVAC BUSINESS A POWER LIGHTING BUSINESS SO -- >> LET ME GET BACK TO THE PARK REAL QUICK. >> IF YOU DON'T MIND I WAS TALKING TO HIM LET ME FINISH I HAVE ONE MORE THING. >> I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY BUT I SINCE I HAVE FLOOR I'LL GET RIGHT TO YOU IF YOU JUST WAIT ONE MINUTE. >> ONE MINUTE. IF YOU DON'T MIND. >>> CAN I GO BACK TO THE QUESTION I'M CONFUSED ON THE WHEATON THING. >> GIVE ME ONE SECOND SO I CAN FINISH. >>> WOULD YOU MIND WAITING OFFICER COMMISSIONER GONZALES. >> I DIDN'T GET AN ANSWER. DID YOU WANT TO ASK SOMETHING? >> I ASKED THE QUESTION YOU SAY HE NEVER WORKED FOR YOU ON THE DOG PARK. >> THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID. >>> THEY ASKED YOU HAS HE WORKED FOR YOU ON JUDGE SAID WORK FOR YOU ON THE DOG PARK I THOUGHT YOU SAID NO. >> YOU ASKED IF HE WAS WORKING FOR US ON THE DOG PARK THE ANSWER IS NO. WHAT HAPPENED WHEN WE WENT TO CONTRACT, LISTEN I'M GOING TO BE TRANSPARENT AND TRUTHFUL. WHEN WE WENT TO CONTRACT ORIGINALLY THE DOG PARK WAS PART OF THE ORGANIZER -- LARGER PROJECT WHEN THAT WAS STRIPPED OUT ON FOR THE QAQC THEY WERE STRIPPED. THEY WERE STRIPPED OUT OF THE PARK IT DIDN'T HAPPEN THAT WAS A OVERSIGHT. WE HAVE CORRECTED THAT AND MADE SURE THERE IS NO LINKAGE ON WHEATON. BECAUSE HE'S THE ENGINEER. >> LET ME GO BACK AND CLARIFY THAT SO, TO BE CLEAR ORIGINALLY THE PARK WAS GOING TO COME UNDER THE ENERGY SAVINGS PERFORMANCE CONTRACT. DUE TO LEGAL ASKING US TO SEPARATE IT AS YOU KNOW RON WHEATON IS A PART OF THE ENERGY SAVINGS PERFORMANCE CONTRACT, WHEN WE SEPARATED IT THAT SEPARATED, TOO. THE COURT HIRED RON WHEATON AS THE ENGINEER AS A RESULT OF THAT STRIPPING HE BECAME IN A NEW RELATIONSHIP WITH US. IT'S NOT LIKE IT IS A SURPRISE, THE COURT IDED IT AND WHEN WE SEPARATED THE PROJECT HE BECAME AN ENGINEER TO THE COUNTY ON A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE WE WERE ALL UNDER ONE BLANKET WE WERE TOGETHER WHEN THE LEGAL SAID SEPARATE THEM, WE DID. THEN WE HAD A SUBSEQUENT AGENDA ITEM AND WHEATON WAS PART OF OUR, HE WORKS FOR US HERE IN NUECES COUNTY. IT CHANGED. >> WHEN HE WAS THE ENGINEER THAT WAS SELECTED HE DID WORK ON THE DOG PARK UNTIL YOU CHANGED IT BUT HE DID SOME WORK. >> CONSULTING ON QUALITY CONTROL, HE WAS USING THE CONTRACTORS. NOW THE LADY THAT WORKS FOR YOU, THE PROJECT MANAGER WHATEVER SHE, IS I DON'T REMEMBER HER NAME. >> CHRISTINA. >> SHE WAS, SHE SAID I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER BUT I HIRED MR. WHEATON TO BE THE PROJECT MANAGER I SAID HOW CAN YOU DO THAT. THE ENGINEERS AND HE IS A PROJECT MANAGER. >> IT WAS MY FAULT, MY ERROR I SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT. >> I APPRECIATE THAT ALL WE HAVE ARE CONTRACT DOCUMENTS TO REFLECT ON WE CAN SEE THE NATURE OF THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE ORGANIZATION AND, AGAIN HE [05:20:05] WAS HIRED HE WAS HIRED AS THE OVERALL PROJECT TO PROVIDE SERVICES AGAIN HE ENDED UP SLIPPING THROUGH THAT HE WAS GOING TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE CONSULTING QA ENGINEERING SERVICES WHICH IS NOT A BAD THING THERE IS NO EFFECT. THE CONSTRUCTION COMPONENT, LET ME BE CLEAR. THE CONSTRUCTION COMPONENT HE DOES NOT HAVE THE SOMEBODY CONTRACTOR AFTER THEM. >> THE LAST STATEMENT WHEN THE LAND WAS THERE AND ASKED HIM ABOUT HOW ABOUT THE DESIGN DO YOU HAVE IT? YOU SAID NO. I DON'T HAVE A DESIGN I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU LATER HE WAS STARTING THE PROJECT. >> ALL I KNOW THE COUNTY OWNS THE DESIGNKY NOT SPEAK TO WHY THE COUNTY RELEASED THE DESIGN. >> I THINK WHAT I THINK WHERE I WAS IN THE SERVICE THERE WAS SOME GOING BACK TO ABM. IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO BE THE CONTRACTOR AND DO THAT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY? >> YES, I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE WE'RE NOT A MANUFACTURER. WE DON'T WE DON'T MANUFACTURE WID GETS. >> I'M NOT QUESTIONING IT, I BELIEVE DO GOOD WORK, I SAID THIS WAS NOT DONE RIGHT, LET ME RESPOND THAT SAY 120,000 TO 130,000 STRONG PEOPLE STRONG IDENTITY THAT'S WHO WE RELY ON TO DELIVER OUR SERVICES. , WE WANT TO DELIVER EXCEPTIONAL SERVICES. WE ARE CAPABLE OF MANAGING AND CONSTRUCTING THE PROJECT IF ALLOWED TO. >> FINISH IN FOUR TO SIX WEEKS, YOU BELIEVE IT TO BE INSIDE THE WALLS THAT IS JUST YOUR SCOPE TO BE ADA COMPLIANT BASED ON THE MODIFICATIONS. SO WHATEVER WAS WRONG HAS BEEN CURED OR WHATEVER COULD HAVE BEEN EDITED HAS BEEN EDITED MODIFIED AND YOU HAVE EXTENDED $23 $230,000 APPROXIMATELY IN SUBS AND EQUIPMENT IF WE CANCEL THE CONTRACT THOSE DOLLARS EXIST, RIGHT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT NOBODY HAS BEEN ABLE TO FRINGE NOT FOREFRONT. >> LOGISTICS AND SUPPLY CHAIN THERE IS A LOT OF DISCUSSION OUT THERE ABOUT THAT. AND A LOT OF, AGAIN, THE COURT FROM A MEMORY PERSPECTIVE. THERE WAS A PLAN WHEN ANOTHER COMMISSIONER SAT HERE IT WAS TO HAVE PART OF ONE OVERALL CONTRACT WHICH MR. WHEATON DID ALL OF THOSE RENDERINGS, THE DESIGNS THAT YOU REMEMBER SEEING HIM INVOLVED IN WERE TO HOPEFULLY GET TO A CONTRACT. THEN LATER LEGAL ASKED US TO SEPARATE AS A COURT WE SEPARATED AND HIRED MR. WHEATON AS A ENGINEER. HE CEASED TO BECOME A CONSULTANT ON THE DOG PARK BUT WAS QC, AS MOST ARE, AS A MATTER OF COURSE. THE BIG ISSUE FOR US HERE IS FINDING OUT WHAT THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY IS SO WE CAN MAKE A STRONG DECISION THAT'S ALL THAT I THINK ALL OF THIS IS ABOUT. >> I WANT TO SAY WE HEARD YOU AND HEARD THE COURT THERE WERE CONCERN ON CONFLICT OF INTEREST ANY RELATIONSHIP. WE TERMINATED BECAUSE IT WAS A CONFLICT WE HEARD YOU AND LISTENED TO YOU ADD BE A GOOD PARTNER SO UNDERSTAND WE ARE CONTINUING TO BE READY WE DON'T HAVE A -- A DOG IN THE FIGHT PER SAY, WE WANT TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT FOR YOU SO THIS IS CAN USE THE PARK. I HEARD THEY ARE USING THE FOUNTAINS. >> IT IS UP TO HIM. BUT JENNY I WANT TO HEAR A QUESTION. YOU HAVE INFORMATION THAT CAN YOU SHED SOME LIGHT ON THIS THING? , I THINK IT WAS CLEARED UP. ORIGINALLY I THOUGHT I HEARD THAT WHEATON HAD NEVER HAD BUT TURNS OUT HE DID HAVE AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAD BEEN GIVEN A CONTRACT THAT APPEARS TO BE BETWEEN ABM AND WHEATON. IT DOES NOT HAVE ATTACHED ANY TERMINATION OR ANYTHING THAT'S NEW INFORMATION. [05:25:03] >> RIGHT. >> THERE WAS A CONTRACT I WAS REFERRED TO. THAT WAS A CONTRACT THAT SAYS THE COUNTY CAN TERMINATE THE CONTRACT GIVEN 30 DAYS NOTICE THEY CAN PAY OR NOT PAY THE CONTRACTOR. THAT'S THE CONTRACT. YOU HAVE SEEN IT. >> THAT'S A GREAT POINT I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP. WE STILL HAVE NOT GOTTEN PAID THE INTERNATIONAL INVOICE SO WE HAVE NOT BEEN PAID ONE TIME FOR ANY OF THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE TO DATE. >> AND NOW WE'LL TAKE THE LEGAL QUESTIONS BACK TO LEGAL BUT WE HAVE SOME FRAMEWORK HOW MUCH HAS BEEN ORDERED I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE TIME, THIS THERE IS A LIABILITY. YOU WILL NOT RETURN DOG PARK EQUIPMENT. >> THE LIABILITY EXPOSURE MAY BE MORE THAN THAT, ALL THAT EQUIPMENT IS SITTING. THE WARNS WOULD BE UP FOR QUESTION AND CONCERN SO, WE HAVE A PATH TO THE PROJECT THAT YOU WANT. WE'RE READY TO IMPLEMENT AND HAVE THE MATERIAL AND PRODUCT. >> THAT IS TRUE ONLY IF THERE IS NO VIOLATIONS ON YOUR PART. >> COMMISSIONER NORTHEAST IS YOU CAN WHATTING NOW COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ; THAT'S ONLY IF THERE ARE NO VIOLATIONS. YOU SAY ONE THING AND WHAT HAPPENS IS ANOTHER THING. AND WHAT JENNY SAYS IS ANOTHER THING. >> SO THERE ARE -- THEY CAN BE ON BOTH SIDES. AND JENNY HAS THE INFORMATION. AND I THINK YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION TO UNDERSTAND IT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> , JUDGE, IT'S NOT SO MUCH HAVE HIS SAY. CAN YOU ASK HIM A QUESTION. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK HIM A QUESTION; JUAN WOULD YOU COME TO THE PODIUM AND ASK YOU A QUESTION; WHAT IS THE QUESTION. , WHEN YOU CAME I ASKED TO YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE DOG PARK? , THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND YOU WENT. >> AND YOU WENT AND CALL ME BACK THE NEXT DAY YOU SAID IT DID NOT LOOK RIGHT. AND I SHOULD NOT PAY. AND OKAY WHAT OTHER. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT OKAY. , WE'RE AND IN AND SAVE SOME PROBLEM. [4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session. ] >> I'LL TELL WHAT YOU I'M GOING TO DO IT IS JUST AS GOOD OF A TIME WE CAN GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION RIGHT NOW. WHY DON'T I DO THAT AND THAT WAY WE CAN KEEP JUAN AND EVERYONE ELSE AFTER I READ OUR MAGIC WORDS HERE IF WOULD YOU NOT MIND CLEARING THE COURTROOM SO WE CAN STAY PUT I WILL GIVE NOTICE AT 2:38 P.M. WE'LL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE MATTERS THAT ARE LISTED ON THE AGENDA. THEY'RE AUTHORIZED AND CHAPTER 551 THE CODE AND BY CODE 55101773, 74, 45, 76, 86 AND CONSULT WITH THE ATTORNEYS RELATING TO LIGS. REGARDING REAL PROPERTY, [05:30:05] PROSPECTIVE GIFTSER MATTERS. ANYTHING THAT MAY BE MON COMPLETION WE'LL COME IN AND TAKE ACTIONS APPROPRIATE ON ITEMS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND, SO JUAN CAN BE BE HERE AS A RESOURCE ANYONE CAN AS LONG AS WE NEED THEM. SO WE'LL CLEAR THE COURTROOM AND WE'RE OFF THE RECORD AND TAKE THE MIC DOWN AT 2:39 P.M. >>> IT IS 5:27 P.M. WE NEED ACTION ON SEVERAL ITEMS. LET'S GO TO A. >> AND WE NEED TO HAVE THE VIDEO TURNED ON. >> ARE YOU DRIVING BUT WILL YOU PUT YOUR VIDEO ON FOR US WHILE YOU'RE DRIVING. , HE CAN LISTEN IN WE HAVE A QUORUM. AND THAT SIGNAL AND ON ITEM A, REGARDING THE CASE THE MASTER CASE AND THERE IS A MOTION AT THIS TIME TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE SETTLEMENT OF OPIOID RELATED WITH JAN SEN. AND THE JAN SEN PHARMECUTICAL AND APPROVE THE DOCUMENTS AND INCLUDED IN THE MOTION FOR THE CLERK IS AUTHORIZE THE INCOME ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OR OUTS COUNCIL TO EXECUTE THE SETTLEMENT DOCUMENTS. THAT IS THE MOTION. I WILL DOUBLE CHECK. WE HAVE ALL THE ELEMENTS IN. SHE SAID YES. CIRCUMSTANCES THERE A SECOND? >> NOT JOHNSON & JOHNSON JUST JANSSEN. >> SECOND. >> WELL EXCUSE ME THEY'RE ALL TOGETHER. JOHNSON & JOHNSON AND JANSSEN AND WHEN WE SAY JANSSEN IN THE CAUSE NUMBER I REFERENCE IT FEVERS TO ALL OF THOSE. >> MOTION AND A SECOND N FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> OKAY ALL RIGHT. NESE GOOD. >> AND ON THE ITEMS OF INTEREST FOR THE HEALTH DISTRICT THERE IS A MOTION AND THAT MOTION IS TO CONTINUE TO DIRECT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO WORK WITH OUR MEMBERSHIP PARTNER AT THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI ON THREE DIFFERENT APPROACHES. AND. >> SECOND. >> SHE HAS THOSE DEFINED. SAY AYE. >> AYE. AND. >> AS TO THE MATTER OF D WHICH IS CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ON HAZEL BASEMORE DOG PARK PROJECT ALL THE LEGAL MATTERS. THERE IS DIRECTION DIRECT THE COUNTY TO WORK WITH WHEATON AND RESOLVE MATTERS THAT WERE DISCUSSED CONCERNING AN IMPORTANCE TO THE COUNTY. WE'RE DIRECTING HER TO SPECIFICALLY GO WITH WHEATON ENGINEERING AND SEE IF WE CAN PRODUCE THE RESULT. NUMBER 11; I APPRECIATE THAT. >> AND AYE. >> AND THEN ON ITEM E, THE MATTERS RELATED TO LOCKWOOD, ANDREWS & NEWMAN. I WOULD SAY THAT -- SAY THAT WRONGMENT PROJECT MANAGEMENT I WOULD LIKE THE COURT TO REFLECT IT IS PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SERVICES. AND IT IS VERY SIMILAR IT IS DIRECT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO VISIT WITH LAN ABOUT SERVICES. >> AS IT RELATES TO ITEM NUMBER 12. >> IS THAT THE MOTION? >> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >>> AND THEN ON ITEM F TEXAS PROMPT PAYMENT ACT. NO ACTION. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WILL WORK WITH STAFF ON THAT ITEM. THERE IS NO MOTION NEEDED. [05:35:01] EVERYTHING ELSE WAS INFORMATION AT THIS POINT AND MAY OR MAY NOT, YOU MAY SEE IT ON ANOTHER AGENDA IN THE UPCOMING COURTS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER MATTERS THAT YOU SEE ARPA. NUMBER 5. ON ITEM 5 IN THE REGULAR AGENDA. THERE WAS A DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD THAT CAUSES TO US DIRECT THE ATTORNEY TO WORK WITH HAGERTY. EVERYTHING IS THE SAME BUT IT WILL BE RECON FIGURED IN A NEW AND IMPROVED WAY TO DESCRIBE WHAT WE ARE DOING IT IS NOT GOING TO HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR LEGAL CONFLICT. WE HAVE ASKED THE ATT ATTORNEY SO WE CAN ACHIEVE THE RESULT WITH BOTH TEXAS AND THE GOVERNMENT AND ARPA. I WOULD LIKE A SECOND. THERE IS NO WAY I WILL REPEAT THAT. SAY AYE. >> AYE. AND NOW I'M GOING TO ASK DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT REPRESENTS EVERYTHING? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT THAT CONCLUDES THE EXECUTIVE SESSION BUT NOT CONCLUDE OUR REGULAR AGENDA. WE STILL HAVE AUDITOR MONTHLY AND TWO CHING ORDERS ONE IS CAPITAL AND ONE IS NOT. >> FOR THE RECORD NO AC ACTION ON 16. >> LET'S MAKE THAT REFLECT THERE IS NO ACTION ON 16 FOR THE CLERK. >> TIOKAY. >> WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING. >> A RECURRING -- >> THERE IS NOTHING PRESENTED TO US TO WORK ON. >> WE HAVE NOTHING PRESENTED TO US. >> WE DON'T HAVE ANY. >> OKAY. >> IN OTHER WORDS THE STATUS QUO REMAINS. AND SO ON BUDGET. [1. Approve Monthly Financial Report for the month of July 2021.] WOULD YOU PREFER THE FINANCIAL, IT IS A VERY GOOD REPORT WHAT WE HAVE. ON PAGE 4 AND 5 THE BALANCES FOR OUR OUR GENERAL FUND AS OF JU JULY 31ST. >> AND SWITCH OVER TO 8 AND 9 YOU WILL SEE A HISTORY WHERE YOU WANT US TO CONTINUE AND GO ON PAGE 9 WHEN WE HAVE THE FUND BALANCES FOR FIVE YEARS WE EXPECT THEM TO CONTINUE AND EXPECT IT TO END UP AS WE SHOWED IN THE BUDGET ITEMS AROUND 27 TO $28 MILLION. SOME WILL NEED TO COME BACK IN THE NEXT PERIOD WE GET TO THE END OF THE YEAR WHERE WE ARE WORKING. WE NEED TO FUND THE BALANCES FOR THE HEALTH INSURANCE THAT IS NEXT ON PAGES 10 AND 11. THE GROUP HEALTH INSURANCE FUND IS A NEGATIVE 992,000 NEGATIVE BALANCE. WE GET TO SEPTEMBER THAT WILL BE 1.4, 1.5 MILLION. WE'LL GET THOSE AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE WALL OF THAT WE DO THE ACCRUALS WE SHOW SOME POLICIES AND BRINGING TO COURT FOR YOUR IDENTIFICATION. PAGE 13 SHOWS YOU THE ACTIVITY FOR LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR YOU SEE WHY WE'RE AT WHERE WE ARE. AND THE EXPENSES AT THE BOTTOM ARE 13.2 MILLION LAST WAS IT IS MORE IN EXPENSES. REVENUE DIDN'T CHANGE AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE AT THE POSITION WE'RE AT. >>> PAGE 16 SHOWS YOU THE REVENUE QUESTIONS FOR THE GENERAL FUND ON PAGE 16. AND FOR JULY AT 92.7% COLLECTED WE EXPECT THAT TO BE 97%. THAT'S VERY PROMISING WHERE WE WANT TO BE AS WE'RE CONTINUING TO MONITOR THE BALANCES. THE GOOD ITEMS ON 21. I GO THROUGH DEPARTMENTS THAT SHOW NEGATIVE. THIS MONTH IT IS ONLY 2. , THAT'S GOOD NEWS. >> THAT'S ON PAGE 58 IS THE FIRST ONE. AND 58 THAT'S BECAUSE IT IS AT THE SMALL AND INCREASE THE [05:40:18] DEDUCTIBLE FOR THE BENEFITS. THAT'S NOT SURPRISING AND THE YEAR 16.6 AND, THAT'S -- ON THE NEXT PAGE. THAT'S THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT THE OVERTIME FOR SOME OF THE IDEAS GOING THROUGH THE FUNCTION AND REGULAR EMPLOYEES IS NON-EXEMPT CAUSING THOSE ITEMS. TURN TO PAGE 61. AS I MENTIONED WE'RE AT 16.6% REMAINING, THE BUDGET FOR THE FUND IS 30.3 THAT'S HIGHER THAN WHERE IT IS, WE EXPECT THAT EVERYTHING IS WORKING OUT. WE EXPECT THAT TO CONTINUE AND EXPECT IT AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND 89 TO 90% OF THE BUDGET THAT'S PROMISING. PAGE 71 SHOWED YOU THE FUND THAT THEY HAVE THAT IS AVAILABLE TO SPEND FOR THE JUDGE AND THE COMMISSIONERS AND THEY ARE THERE YOU HAVE 8000 AVAILABLE. PAGE 72 AND THE FUNDS THAT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME. PAGE 75 SHOWS YOU OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS AND GO TO THE FINAL PAGE WHICH IS PAGE 80, THE C 06789S $70,000 REMA REMAINING AND ALLOCATED BUT NOT SPENT. 2007 IS 25,000. AND 2.3 MILLION. 2016, 10.3 MILLION. AND OUR 2019 IS 21 MILLION AND WHAT WE ISSUED THE 21 SERIES 49 MILLION AND THE GENERAL FUND AT 3.5 FOR A TOTAL UNSPENT FUNDS OF 112,000. 112MILLION. EXCUSE ME. PAGE 84 SHOWS YOU OUR TRANSACTIONS FOR THE MONTH OF JULY. >> 335385. YOU KNOW AND 170 SHOWS YOU FOR THE JULY PERIOD THIS IS THE 10 MONTHS ENDING. AND I KNOW I WENT THROUGH THIS QUICKLY. ILL' ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THAT'S THE REPORT FOR JULY. >> THANK YOU. I WILL MOVE APPROVAL FOR THE REPORT AT THIS TIME. >> SECOND IT. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. >> SECOND. >> THANK YOU. >>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. [2. Approve Capital Project Budget Change Order No. 102.] >> AYE. >> THE NEXT IS FOR THE CAPITAL PROJECT CHANGE ORDER 102. THERE ARE ONLY A FEW ITEMS ON HERE WHEN WE FINALIZE THE SYSTEM FOR THE UNSPENT FUNDS MOVING THOSE BACK TO UNALLOCATED FUNDS. 14160 TO DO AS THE COURT SEES FIT FOR ALLOCATION OF THE FUNDS, FOR THE 2005 WHICH IS 2021. WE BROUGHT IN THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY CONTROL SYSTEMS THE FUND BALANCE FOR THE FUNDS WAS EXCESS OF $200,000. THAT WAS NOT THE CASE AFTER WE DID A FINAL REVIEWS WE HAD 140,000. EIGHT THE COURTHOUSE CAN USE 120 OF THAT FUND BALANCE. THAT'S $80,000 OF FU FUNDS WE NEED TO HAVE ACCRUED HERE. THERE ARE SOME UNALLOCATED FUNDS THAT'S ALL WE SNEED. >> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> OKAY. >> IS THERE A MOTION? >> WAS THERE A DISCREPANCY CAN WITH THE SECURITY? >> AND THERE CONTRIBUTED FUNDS. AND THE 2016 THE REST OUT OF THE 21 SERIES. WE ASSUMED THAT $200,000 WOULD BE AVAILABLE OUT OF THE SECURITY DEPARTMENT THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. WE HAD 140,000 OF THAT AVAILABLE. [05:45:01] I NEED 80,000 FROM THE 21 SERIES. >> REMEMBER WHEN THE 2002 1. IT IS NOMINAL BUT BIG BANG FOR THE BUCK. WE DON'T WANT TO WIPE IT OUT. THIS IS A COMPROMISE. >> OUT OF THE 2021. >> IT IS MINIMAL. WHAT IS THE MATTER? >> YOU'RE NOT ON THE MIC. >> TELL HIM WHERE TO TAKE IT FROM; UNALLOCATED FUNDS THERE. THAT'S COMING FROM THAT PROJECT. YOU WANT TO TAKE IT FROM THE ME BUT I THINK IT IS UNALLOCATED. >> WE HAD SOME WHEN WE INITIATED THE BALANCES WE TO OUR CLOSING COSTS SO WE TRANSFERRED IT FROM THERE. >> WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> OKAY, I'LL SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> I'LL LET THE SHERIFF KNOW WE'RE GOOD TO GO WE'RE NOT TAKING IT FROM THAT FUND. >> I DO NEED TO GO BACK TO 16. >> GO AHEAD. >> WERE YOU DONE, DALE? >> HE HAS ONE MORE. [3. Approve Budget Change Order No. 02 for Fiscal Year 2021-2022.] >> IF YOU DON'T MIND. >> AND THE BUDGET CHANGE ORDER THERE ARE A FEW DEPARTMENTS HERE. AND THE TAX COLLECTOR. CAPITAL OUTLAY AND JUSTICE OF THE PEACE. WE SAW THAT WE WERE ABLE TO TRANSFER THE FUNDS BACK WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO MULTIPLE YEARS THIS IS THE SERVICE AGREEMENT AND THE SERVICES FUND. HE HAS TO ADD THIS SO WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE THE GENERAL ADMINISTRATION TO COVER THE COSTS. WE SHOULD HAVE BUDGETED THERE. WE DIDN'T. AND CAPITAL OUTLAY WE STARTED RECEIVING OUR CARS ADD A HIT. WE WOULD HAVE BUDGETED IT DIRECTLY. >> THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE. AND JP HAS SOME CHANGE AND THEY LEAVE YOU PAY OUT AND UNPAID OVERTIME. IT WAS A SMALL INCREASE IN OVERTIME. THIS WILL COVER THIS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR. AND CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 2 FOR YOUR ACCEPTANCE AND APPROVAL. >> THE CHANGE ORDER FOR THE REPORT. >> HOW ABOUT A SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> I HAVE A QUESTION, THOUGH. , WHAT ARE WE USING FOR. >> THAT'S WHAT WE PAY FOR THE COMING DOWN TO THE SECURITY AT THE MOMENT. >> THE PEOPLE WE HIRE HERE THAT'S WHAT THE MONEY USED TO COVER. THAT. >> EVERYTHING COMES FROM THERE? >> YES. >> AND 107,000 WE RECEIVE ABOUT WE TRANSFER TO COVER THE REMAINING PORTION. AND THE SECURITY FOR THE COURTHOUSE. >> THAT MONEY SHOULD BE USED FOR THE SECURITY, TOO. >> THAT'S WHAT THAT IS A DECISION THAT THE COURT WILL NEED TO MAKE. RIGHT NOW THE ONLY ONE WE'RE PAYING FOR IS HERE AT THE COURTHOUSE. >> AND PAY THE NEXT ROUND, RIGHT. >> WE'LL HAVE TO TRANSFER MORE FROM THE GENERAL FUND. >> CAN YOU SEE WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THAT? >> SURE. >> SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. [16. Discuss and consider approval of any accrued overtime hours pursuant to County policy for essential exempt employees during declared disasters as it relates to COVID-19, and/or storm preparedness and response; severe weather preparedness and response; in addition, discuss and consider discontinuing overtime payments to essential exempt City County Health District Employees.] >> OPPOSED. >> NOW WE'LL GO BACK TO 16. YOU HAVE A CLEAN UP? >> YES, MA'AM. I APOLOGIZE. THE PART THE DISCONTINUED TO CITY COUNTY HEALTH DISTRICT EMPLOYEES AND I WANTED TO MAKE THAT MOTION BASED. REALLY ON A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO IT AND NUMBER 2, BECAUSE OF THE WITHDRAWAL I WOULD HAVE TO ARGUE THAT THOSE CONTRACTS ARE NO LONGER IN PLACE WITH THE CITY AND SO THEY SHOULD NOT GOVERN US. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE STILL HAVE AS LONG AS. >> AND WE'LL HAVE LEGAL ADVICE, WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE I DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO BE DOING THAT AND I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER WAY THAN TO, I AGREE. >> I THINK THAT WHAT THE [05:50:03] COMMISSIONER BRENT CHESNEY IS SAYING WHAT WE WANT TO DO RIGHT NOW IS PAUSE AND MAKE SURE DALE HAS GOTTEN INVOICES FROM MAY THROUGH SEPTEMBER AND RIGHT NOW THE COURT'S WILL IS TO PUT A HOLD ON THAT. WE NEED LEGAL ADVICE IT CAN BE ADDRESSED IN THE FUTURE BUT FOR RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO PUT A HOLD ON THAT 40%. AND WITHDRAWING THE, DROPPING TRIN. I'M STRUGGLING TO REMEMBER THE NAME YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE WITHDRAWING WITH THAT GOES ALL THE OBLIGATIONS, WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE FOR THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE THAT WERE WITH US. YOU CAPITAL HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BACKUP WHY WE'RE DOING THIS. IT NEVER CAME THROUGH US. IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE TO PAY SOMETHING WE DON'T FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE PAYING. I THINK THE CITY WOULD TAKE THE SAME POSTURE. I WOULD THINK THE CITY FEELS THE SAME WAY, THEY SENT THE INVOICE I'M FOR THE STATUS QUO UNTIL WE GET ADVICE WHAT THE OBLIGATIONS ARE. >> WE HAVE JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER. >> CAN WE HOLD ON THOSE? >> OKAY. >> NOT ON ALL OF THEM. >> BUT WE HAVE -- WE HAVE SOME INTERESTING LEGAL DISCUSSIONS THERE, LET THEM HAVE THAT AND PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS. >> MOTION. AYE. , THAT IS 40%. STATUS QUO. OKAY. AND WHAT ELSE IS THERE LEFT? >> I THINK THAT'S IT. WE HAVE DONE THE AUDITOR. IS THERE ANY ADJOURNMENTS ANY I [ Adjournment in Memory (upon request)] SHOULD SAY? >> I HAVE ONE. >> AND I WOULD LIKE TO DO MORE FULL NEXT MEETING HE PASSED AWAY LAST NIGHT I DON'T HAVE THE FULL OBITUARY. JAMIE JOAN AS FRIEND OF MINE PASSED A. HE HAD CANCER AND HE PASSED I WANT TO PASS THAT ON TO THE LOSS OF JAMIE JONES. >> SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS. >> ONLINE. AND COMMISSIONER? >> YES, GO AHEAD. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY. >> HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY. COMMISSIONER GONZALES? >> OKAY N THAT CASE WE EXTEND OUR CONDOLENCES DUE TO COVID-19 THIS PAST WEEK WE STAND FORMALLY ADJOURNED. THE TIME IS 5:49 P.M. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.