[1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:05] GOING TO CALL THIS MEET TO ORDER. WE ARE ON A NEW SCHEDULE AND WILL TAKE A WHILE TO GET USED TO. 8:30 IN THE MORNING WE ARE STARTING OUR COMMISSIONERS COURT. [A. County Judge calls for the Invocation.] AND AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK ALL OF TO YOU STAND FOR INFO OCCASION, PLEASE. PLEASE REMAIN STANDING. REMOVE YOUR HATS AS WELL FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE OF AMERICA AND OUR TEXAS FLAG. CALL ON COMMISSIONER MAREZ AT THIS TIME. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: THANK YOU, JUDGE. BOW YOUR HEADS, PLEASE. DEAR LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE START OF THIS WEEK AND BLESSINGS THAT WE HAD SINCE WE LAST MET. WE THANK YOU FOR KEEPING A WATCHFUL EYE OVER OUR COUNTY AND PRAY YOU THAT YOU GUIDE US, LORD IN YOUR WILL AND THE WORK OF THE PEOPLE AND IN YOU, GOD, WE PRAY TO WATCH OVER YOU, YOUR STAFF AND STAFF, RESIDENTS, STATE, COUNTRY AND WORLD AS WE TRY TO CONTINUE TO RECOVER FROM COVID. WE PRAY FOR THOSE STRUGGLING WITH THAT AND SO MANY OTHER ILLNESS THAT'S WE ARE NOT AWARE OF AND PRAY FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN LOST. IN YOUR HOLY NAME, WE PRAY, [B. Pledge of Allegiance to the United States of America and Texas Flags.] AMEN. >> I PLEDGE 'LY BEGAN TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE. [C. County Judge will call roll, note date, time, and location of meeting, and certify a quorum is present.] >>JUDGE CANALES: GOOD MORNING AGAIN. 89:38 A.M. I DO NOTE FOR OUR CLERK THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT. COMMISSIONER MAREZ, PRESENT. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, PRESENT. AND I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ IS ON THE PHONE. BUT I WILL ASK HIM TO TURN ON HIS -- A VIDEO JUST SO WE CAN SEE HIM AND THE CLERK KNOW THAT'S HE IS THERE. THERE YOU ARE, SIR. OKAY. COMMISSIONER -- I KNOW GONZALEZ HAS NOT JOINED US, BUT IF HE DOES, WE WILL NOTE THAT FOR THE RECORD. THE DATE IS OCTOBER 18, 2017. IT IS MONDAY. AND WE ARE AT 9 01 NORTH LEOPARD AND COUNTY COURTHOUSE, NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE THAT [D. SAFETY BRIEFING] IS, THE THIRD FLOOR OF THE NUECES COUNTY COURT ROOM. ASK TIMOTHY TO GIVE US A SAFETY BRIEFING AT THIS TIME AND EVERYBODY TO DIRECT THEIR ATTENTION TOWARD HIM. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. HERE ON THE THIRD FLOOR OF THE NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE 901 LEOPARD STREET. REST ROOMS LOCATE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THIS FLOOR NEXT TO THE DRINKING FOUNTAINS. SIX FIRE EXTINGUISHERS THROUGHOUT THE THIRD FLOOR A AREA. PLEASE MAKE NOTE. CLOSEST FIRE EXTINGUISHER NEAREST YOU. AN AED DEVICE -- DEVICES ARE LOCATED ON EVERY FLOOR OF THE NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE. IN THE EVENT OF A CARDIAC EMERGENCY, THE DEFIBRILLATOR NEXT TO THE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE. PARTICIPANT RESPONSIBLE FOR DIALING 911 IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY IS CONNIE. PARTICIPANTS THAT ARE CPR CERTIFIED IN ATTENDANCE ARE MYSELF. IN THE EVENT OF AN EVACUATION, THIS EGRESS IS DOWN THE STAIRS, EXIT THE LEPON STREET ENTRANCE AND DISPERSING THE PARKING LOT FOR SECURITY PURPOSES ACROSS THE STREET. A NEED TO SHELTER IN PLACE, THE COURT AND ATTENDEE ALSO REMAIN IN THE COURT ROOM DEPENDING ON THE SEVERITY OF THE INCIDENT, THE DOUBLE DOORS WILL REMAIN SECURE UNTIL FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE NUECES COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. OUR SAFETY TOPIC FOR TODAY IS OCTOBER IS NATIONAL PROTECT YOUR HEARING MONTH. JUDGE, THAT CONCLUDES MY BRIEF. [E. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.] JU >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, TIMOTHY. MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL OF TO YOU PREPARE YOURSELVES ONLINE. IF YOU WANT TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT A VIRTUAL HAND YOU CAN RAISE. I HAVE FOUR FOLKS THAT SIGNED UP INSIDE THE COURT ROOM ON THE PUBLIC SIGN-UP SHEET. I WILL CALL THEM IN ORDER. FIRST IT SIM DOWLING. GOOD MORNING, SIR. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. THE REASON I WANTED TO BE HERE TODAY TO REVISIT REDISTRICTING AND THE PROCESS IS DONE IN THE LEGISLATURE AND WE HAVE THAT COMING UP HERE AND I VISITED WITH YOU BACK IN JULY URGING TO YOU USE AN INDEPENDENT REREDISTRICTING COMMISSION. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOUR MEETINGS WORK. I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA 2 W, WHICH IS HIRING A LAW FIRM AND WANTED TO IN ALL OFF OF AGENDA FOR CONSENT SO IT CAN BE DISCUSSED IF THE PUBLIC -- I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE LAW FIRM AT ALL. THEIR HIGHLY QUALIFIED. THEIR RATES ARE FAIR. I HAVE BEEN PRACTICING AND THE RATE IS VERY FAIR, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T FOLLOW [00:05:03] THE SHAMEFUL PROCESS THAT THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE JUST DID BEHIND CLOSED DOOR. NOTHINGFUL PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY PROCEDURES OUT OF COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT SAYS THIS IS HOW WE DO IT. EL PASO USES AN INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING COMMISSION AND THEY HAVE A VERY GOOD PROCESS. I WILL HAVE FOR YOU TWO HANDOUTS THEY USE TO ADOPT IT WITH ALL OF THE PROCEDURES HOW THEY SELECT THE COMMISSIONERS. BUT MOST IMPORTANT THING THEY DID WAS HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING WHERE THEY SAID, OKAY, WE HAVE NOT DRAWN THE LINES YET. WE ARE HERE IN A PUBLIC MEETING AND WILL TAKE YOUR INPUT. WE GOT UP ON THE SCREEN IN THE FRONT. ROOM AND DRAW THE MAP TODAY. THEY DREW THE MAP AND 11 PEOPLE ON THE COMMISSION AND HAD A MAJORITY REPORT AND A MINORITY REPORT THAT SITS ON THE ADVISORY AND GOES TO THE COMMISSIONERS WHO SAY I LIKE EITHER MAP A OR MAP B. WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN AND THIS IS WHAT TROUBLES ME FROM THE MEMO I SAW FROM THE LAW FIRM BACK IN MARCH. IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO IS THE LAWYER THAT THEY HIRE AND TALK TO THE COMMISSIONER AND FIND OUT WHAT HE WANTS. DPIL TO TALK TO COMMISSIONER TWO AND SEE WHAT HE WANTS AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THE FOUR OF YOU HAVE LINES AND BASICALLY SAYING, I TALKED TO FOUR OF YOU FOLKS AND NOW I HAVE A MAP FOR YOU. THAT IS NOT HOW WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT. IT OUGHT TO BE DONE IN PUBLIC. IT OUGHT TO BE DONE WITH CITIZEN PARTICIPATION. NOT JUST WHAT HE WANTS AND WHAT HE WANTS. THAT WILL BE A VERY CLOSED, UNFAIR, NONTRANSPARENT PROCESS AND I HOPE WE DON'T MODEL THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH HOW THEY DID IT. THAT DINED OF MY PITCH. IT IS VERY EASY TO DO. IF YOU THINK, WELL, WE HAVE THESE DEADLINES COMING UP. WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME FOR THAT. DO IT FOR 2022 THE WAY YOU WANT IT, BUT THEN HAVE A COMMISSION DO IT FOR 2024, BUT DON'T STICK US WITH THESE LINES FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. THOSE ARE BASE CLEAT COMMENTS THAT I HAVE. I WILL BE HAPPY TO HAND OUT THE MATERIAL. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST TO THE CLERK, PLEASE. >> WHO WOULD THAT SOMEBODY IN. >>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT HERE. AND BELINDA, OUR COURT ADMINISTRATOR AND ACCEPT THEM AS WELL AND PASS THEM ON. >> I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT BASICALLY HAVE A FAIR PROCESS AND AN INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING COMMISSION. AND WE NEED TO KNOW HOW YOU PLAN TO DO IT AND DON'T DO IT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. >>JUDGE CANALES: GNAW FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT AND DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, WE DO NOT RESPONDS A COURT TO THE SUBJECT MATTER BUT OF COURSE APPRECIATE EACH -- EACH OF YOU. AND THE AND THE WORDS YOU HAVE SPOKEN. AT THIS TIME, I WILL MOVE TO INDIVIDUAL NUMBER TWO THAT SIGNED UP. KATHERINE OHLER. >> GOOD MORNING. >>JUDGE CANALES: GOOD MORNING. >> I AM KATHLEEN OHLE R SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS IN THE CORPUS CHRISTI AREA. THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF ADVOCATING FOR FAIR REDISTRICTING PRACTICES. WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MUCH A BEFORE YOU TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SHARE OUR POSITION. LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS CORPUS CHRISTI AREA BELIEVES RESPONSIBILITY FOR REDI REDISTRICTING SHOULD BE VESTED IN AN INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING COMMISSION THAT REFLECTS THE DIVERSITY OF THE GOVERNMENT, CITIZENS AT LARGE, REPRESENTATIVES OF PUBLIC INTEREST GROUPS AND MEMBERS OF MINORITY GROUPS. REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT AN INDEPENDENT COMMISSION IS IN PLACE, WE BELIEVE THAT EVERY REDISTRICTING PROCESS SHOULD INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING: SPECIFIC TIMELINES FOR THE STEPS LEADING TO A REDI REDISTRICTING PLAN, FULL DISCLOSURE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS ON ONE LICK HEARING FOR THE PLANS FOR ADOPTION, REDISTRICTING ON ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE IN AN OPEN, UNBIASED MANNER WITH CITIZENS PARTICIPATION IN ALL LEVELS AND STEPS OF THE PROCESS AND SUBJECTED TO ALL OPEN MEETING LAWS. AND SHOULD BE ADOPTED BY THE REDISTRICTING AUTHORITY WITH MORE THAN A SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE. THE STANDARDS OF WHICH A REDISTRICTING PLAN IS PLACED MUST BE ENFORCEABLE IN COURT, REQUIRE EQUAL POPULATION, GEOGRAPHIC CONTINUITY, AND REPRESENTATION OF LING GUESS PARTICULAR AND MINORITY RESPONSIBILITY, AND INTEREST, RESPECT POLITICAL BOUNDARY. AND COMPACTNESS MAY BE CONSIDERED AS CRITERIA AS LONG AS THEY DON'T CON WITH THE ABOVE CRITERIA. PROTECT INCUMBENTS BY [00:10:01] CONSIDERING AN INCUMBENT'S ADDRESS. WE ARE SUBMITTING A LIST TO COMMISSIONERS COURT OF LISTS OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO IMPLEMENT IN THE COURT THAT THE COURT IS THE ENTITY INVOLVED IN DRAWING THE NEW MAPS. THESE RECOMMENDATIONS COME FROM VOTING RIGHTS ATTORNEYS AND MODELLED FROM AN END PENSION REDISTRICTING THAT COMMISSIONERS COURT MEMBERS WILL DRAW THE MAP NOT AN INDEPENDENT COMMISSION. THE PROCEDURES AND CRITERIA ARE DESIGNED TO MAKE THE REDISTRICTING AS FAIR AND OPEN AS POSSIBLE TO UPHOLD THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT. WE WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS DOES WANT AN INDEPENDENT REDI REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE FOR THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. ONE CANNOT BE CREATED WE ASK THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS BE FOR THE FULLEST EXTENT SO PEOPLE HAVE FULL FAITH IN THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS AND THAT MAPS ARE DRAWN. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM JULIE ROGERS PLEASE. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU FOR LETTING US BE HERE. MY NAME IS JULIE ROGERS. WHAT I HAVE TO SAY IS NOT A LOT, BUT IT IS A LOT. I AM SO GLAD WE ARRIVED AT LOCAL REDISTRICTING. LOOKING VERY FORWARD TO THAT AND I APPLAUD THESE LAWYERS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE HIRING. I WAS AT THAT MEETING THAT IT WAS DISCUSSED. I ALSO LOOK AT THE MOU. AND CONCERNS ME THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN THAT DISCUSSIONS WOULD HAPPEN. IT DOES SOUND LIKE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. WE MAY NOT BE UNDERSTANDING THAT THOUGH. SO THAT'S WHY I AM ASKING THAT YOU CONTINUE TO LET US KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. ADVERTISE TO THE PUBLIC WHAT IS GOING ON. AND HOLDS SOME PUBLIC INPUT HEARINGS. I DO THINK THAT WE NEED AN END PINT REDISTRICTING COMMISSION LIKE IN EL PASO. AND THEY ALSO HAVE ONE IN AUSTIN. BUT -- BUT UNTIL WE GET THAT, HAVE AT LEAST TWO TO THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THE MAPS AND DISCUSS IT WITH YOU ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. AND FINAL ME MARIA VERIA. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS. I JUST A WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME GOOD NEWS ACTUALLY THAT WE GOT FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE MAYBE ABOUT 15 MINUTES AGO. WE ARE THE RECIPIENT OF EIGHT GRANT AWARDS FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HEADS-UP ONLY BECAUSE SOME OF THESE GRANTS ARE GOING TO BE RETROACTIVE TO OCTOBER 1, SO YOU WILL SEE A COUPLE OF RATIFY GRANT AWARDS ON THE NEXT AGENDA. BUT JUST TO RUN THEM DOWN FOR YOU. SOME OF THEM ARE CONTINUATION. SOME OF THEM ARE NEW. THE NEW ONES ARE PRETTY EXCITING. I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY HAD A CHANCE TO REACH OUT TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE YET TO LET THEM KNOW. ONE OF THE GRANT AWARDS IS MONITORING OFFENDERS AGAINST WOMEN. THAT PAYS FOR GPS FOR INDIGENOUS. THAT IS A GRANT OF 22,000. NO -- CASH MATCH, EXCUSE ME. ANOTHER GRANT, JUSTICE JUSTICE IMPROVEMENTS TO OUTFIT EIGHT OR NINE VEHICLES TO UPGRADE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TECHNOLOGY WITHIN THE IN-CAR SYSTEMS. WE HAVE A CONTINUATION GRANT TO PAY FOR A VICTIM -- ONE F FULL-TIME AND ONE PART-TIME VICTIM ASSISTANCE COORDINATOR IN THE DA'S OFFICE. WE HAVE A CONTINUATION GRANT FOR THE TUITION INITIATIVE THAT PAYS FOR ONE FULL-TIME CASE MANAGER AND LINKS TO TRUANCY PREVENTION. WE RECEIVED A RIFLE RESISTANT BODY ARMOR GRANT AT ABOUT $1 $12,500 FOR THOSE LAW ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENTS THAT INDICATED A NEED. BUT THE NEW GRANTS THAT WE HAVE, DA TESTING OF FORENSIC EVIDENCE. A $251,000 GRANT THAT WILL ALLOW THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO OUTSOURCE SOME OF ITS FORENSIC EVIDENCE TESTING TO HOPEFULLY SPEED UP THE PROCESS -- THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROCESS. WE ALSO RECEIVED ANOTHER 81,000 FOR SAME KIT TESTING. SEXUAL ASSAULT NURSING EXAMINATION KITS. AGAIN, THIS WILL ALLOW THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO SEND THOSE OFF TO PRIVATE ACCREDITED LABS. AND THAT'S IN THE AMOUNT OF $81,000. ANOTHER REALLY EXCITING ONE IS INNOVATIONS TO ADDRESS SEXUAL EXPLOITATION. WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE COASTAL BEND WELLNESS FOUNDATION ON THIS AND THE RED CORD DIVERSION PROGRAM. THE AMOUNT OF $120,000 TO HELP US -- TO HELP THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, CCPD, AS WELL AS COASTAL BEND WELLNESS [00:15:01] TO CONDUCT TARGETED HOTEL AND PROSTITUTION STINGS IN THE AMOUNT OF $120,000. THE GREAT NEWS ALL OF THESE GRANTS HAVE NO MATCH. SOME OF THESE ARE CONTINUATION GRANTS FOR THE FLUID TEE OF FINANCIAL ACCOUNTING, THERE WILL BE SOME ROD IF I CASES. THE NEW PROGRAMS WE WILL LEAVE THEM AS A REGULAR SET AWARD ON THE NEXT AGENDA. I DO -- WANT TO END WITH THE SOCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAVE LAUNCHED A MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND PLEASE ENCOURAGE YOUR CONSTITUENTS. OUR PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY FOR RESIDENTS OUTSIDE OF THE CORPUS CHRISTI CITY LIMITS. AGAIN PROVIDE MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE AND APPLICATION ON THE COUNTY'S WEB SITE ON THE PAGE PAGE AND THE -- MAIN PAGE OR SOCIAL SERVICES PAGE. AND CONSTITUENTS ARE INVITED TO CALL THE SOCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, MARIA. I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE -- YES, I DO, KARA SANDS, PLEASE. >> THANK YOU. TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF EARLY VOTING FOR THE EARLY 2 CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT ELECTION. AND IT IS GOING TO GO FROM TODAY UNTIL OCTOBER 29. SO GET OUT AND VOTE EARLY. GO TO OUR WEB SITE, NUECESCO.COM AND SAMPLE BALLOT AND LINK WHERE IT EXPLAINS IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE CAN VOTE HERE. >> YOU CAN VOTE HERE. YOU CAN'T LEAVE UNTIL YOU VOTE -- YOU CAN GO TO THE VIR ROOM AND VOTE -- NO, YOU CAN LEAVE. I CAN'T SAY THAT. ALSO -- AND ON ELECTION DAY, VOTE CENTERS, YOU CAN VOTE ANYWHERE WHAT NUECES COUNTY PROVIDES TO MAKE IT CONVENIENT. PORT ARANSUS AND CITY OF R ROTHTOWN HAVE JOINED US AND THEY HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT CITY RACE ON THE BALLOT. GO OUT AND VOTE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. OKAY. >> ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO MAYBE PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. IN THAT CASE, I WILL MOVE ON AND PROCEED TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING WITH REGARD TO ITEM F. IT SAYS IT STARTS AT 9:00. DO YOU PREFER THAT I WAIT UNTIL [J. Accept the following Minutes:] 9. >> YES, MA'AM. >>JUDGE CANALES: HOPE THAT DO SO. ITEM J 1, J 1, PLEASE SEPTEMBER 22, 27 AND OCTOBER 4. A MOTION AFTER WE HAVE HAUL A CHANCE TO REVIEW TO ACCEPT THESE MINUTES? >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE MINUTES FROM THE 22, 27, AND 4TH OF OCTOBER SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> OKAY, GREAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: AN EFFORT TO GUS US TO 9:00, EYE JEM G-1 [1. In recognition of the month of October 2021 as Disability Employment Awareness Month.] PLEASE, IN RECOGNITION OF THE MONTH OF OCTOBER AS DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARNESS MONTH. AND I WILL ASK BELINDA TO TAKE THE PODIUM AND SHARE WITH US THE GOOD RESOLUTION HERE. >> AND I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE MONIQUE GARCIA ONLINE FROM THE CENTER OF INDEPENDENT LIVING AND ANOTHER REPRESENTATIVE. >>JUDGE CANALES: WONDERFUL. CHRISTINA BUTLER? GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, LADIES. >> GOOD MORNING. >> WHEREAS WORKPLACES WELCOMING OF TALENTS OF ALL PEOPLE, INCLUDING PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, ARE A CRITICAL PART OF OUR EFFORTS TO BUILD AN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY AND STRONG ECONOMY; AND, WHEREAS, IN THIS SPIRIT, NUECES COUNTY IS RECOGNIZING NATIONAL DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARNESS MONTH THIS OCTOBER TO RAISE AWARENESS OF DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT ISSUES AND CELEBRATE THE MANY AND V VARIED CONTRIBUTION OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES; AND, WHE WHEREAS, ACTIVITIES DURING THIS MONTH WILL REINFORCE THE VALUE AND TALENT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES ADD TO THE WORKPLACES AND COMMUNITIES AND AFFIRM NUECES COUNTY'S COMMITMENT TO AN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF NUECES COUNTY HEREBY FORMALLY DESIGNATE OCTOBER 2021 AS NATIONAL DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARNESS MONTH IN NUECES AND IN DOING SO THE COURT CALLS EMPLOYERS, SCHOOLS AND OTHER COMMUNITIES ORGANIZATIONS IN NUECES COUNTY TO OBSERVE THIS MONTH WITH APPROPRIATE PROGRAM [00:20:02] AND ACTIVITIES TO ADVANCE THIS YEAR'S THEME "AMERICA'S RECOVERY: POWERED BY INCL INCLUSION" THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. >>JUDGE CANALES: LADIES, THANK YOU SO MUCH. GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION. >> SO MOVED JUVRJZ JUDGE I WILL SECOND AND CALL FOR DISCUSSION. POLICE BUTLER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS? OR MISS GARCIA? >>JUDGE CANALES: MISS GARCIA? >> I AM REPRESENTING COASTAL BEND ENTER FOR INDEPENDENT LIVING. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK JUDGE CANALES AND THE COMMISSIONERS FOR RECOGNIZING THIS RESOLUTION FOR THE DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARNESS MONTH. THIS YEAR'S THEME AS YOU HEARD WAS AMERICA'S RECOVERY POWERED BY INCLUSION. THIS RESOLUTION REFLECTS THE IMPORTANCE OF ENSURE THAT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES HAVE FULL ACCESS TO EMPLOYMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE CAN ALL TAKE STEPS TO EMBRACE INCLUSION AND EMPOWER ALL THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE YEAR AND NOT JUST IN OCTOBER. THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, MONICA. I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE AND NUECES COUNTY IS PROUD TO BE AN EMPLOYER THAT DOES RECOGNIZE THE DIFFERENCE -- THE DIFFERENCES AMONGST OUR EMPLOYEE WORKFORCE IS A BEAUTIFUL WORKFORCE. AND SO WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND FOR BRINGING THIS AWARENESS TO US. AND I KNOW I SPEAK FOR HUMAN RESOURCES WHEN I SAY WE DON'T CONSIDER ANY DISABILITY ANYTHING BUT AN EXTRAORDINARY ABILITY. SO THANK YOU AGAIN. >> THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: ANY OTHER COMMENTS? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. WONDERFUL. [2. In recognition of Cenikor's 55th year milestone.] STILL SHORT OF A 9:00 HOUR, SOIL PROCEED INTO CENIKOR'S 5 55-YEAR MILESTONE. THOSE WHO DON'T RECOGNIZE CENIKOR, YOU RECOGNIZE CHA CHARLIE'S PLACE. CENIKOR IS THE NEW NAME FOR CHARLIE'S PLACE. >> UNFORTUNATELY THEY WERE NOT GOING TO BE HERE -- TO BE ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY SO THEY DID ASK US TO IT TO OCTOBER 27. >>JUDGE CANALES: NO WORRIES. WE CAN DO THAT. HOW -- >> MOTION TO TABLE FOR OCTOBER 27. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL OCTOBER 27, AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO BE HERE AND THEY HAVE BIG ANNOUNCEMENTS BESIDES THE 55TH YEAR. >> IF I CAN CHECK, I KNOW WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A WAY WAY REPRESENTATIVE HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARRIVED YET. I DON'T SEE THEM. >> LIBERTY AND OR KATRINA. ANYBODY LINE? I WILL ASK IF ANYBODY IS [3. In recognition of United Way Campaign Kickoff 2021.] OUTSIDE FOR UNITED WAY? WE COULD WAIT. PERFECT. NO WORRIES. YOU HAVE WHAT WE CALL PERFECT TIMING. BELINDA WAS JUST ABOUT TO READ THE RECOGNITION OF THE UNITED WAY. >> WHEREAS THE UNITED STATES OF THE COASTAL BEND BETWEEN FOCUSING ON EDUCATION, FINANCIAL STABILITY AND HELP THROUGH FUND RAISING AND INVESTMENTS ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND WHEREAS, THE UNITED WAY OF THE CASTE COASTAL BEND THAT 100 OF THE FUNDS REMAIN LOCAL AND 2 2020, NUECES COUNTY EMPLOYEES SUCCESSLY CONTRIBUTED 1819 IN PLEDGES AND GIVE GIFTS AND THESE DOLLARS ARE INVESTED IN CRITICAL NEEDS TO CHANGE THE COASTAL BEND FOR SURE. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT KICKOFF OF THE UNITED WAY FUND RAISING CAMPAIGN AND ENCOURAGES CITIZENS AND COUNTY EMPLOYEES TO PARTICIPATE IN ASSISTING THIS BROADBASED ORGANIZATION. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT SUCH RESOLUTION? >> SO MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL TAKE A AS A MOTION AND A SECOND. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS ON BEHALF OF THE UNITED WAY? WE WELCOME YOU. >> I AM SO SORRY I AM TAKING OVER FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS SICK. I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. WHAT RAISES HERE STAYS HERE. [00:25:02] WE WANT TO BE A HAND OUT, HELPING AND BEING SUCCESSFUL PREACH TOGETHER CHOIR HERE. THIS COUNTY AND GROUP KNOWS BETTER THAN ANYONE WHAT IT TAKES TO TAKE CARE OF OUR RESIDENTS. WE ARE PROUD TO BE PART OF T THAT. WE ARE PROUD THAT THE COUNTY HAS AN A PARTICIPANT WITH THE UNITED WAY. WE APPRECIATE THAT SUPPORT. NOW MORE THAN EVER WE NEED THAT SUPPORT AND I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND FOR THE RESOLUTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE RECOGNIZE THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU ALL DO. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WILL SAY, YOU HAVE BEEN SO ACTIVE IN PARTICIPATING IN OUR PUBLIC FORUMS OF THE AMERICAN RELIEF PLAN ACT AND BY DOING SO, YOU ARE HELPING SO MANY NONPROFITS IN OUR COMMUNITY UNDER STAND THAT THIS COURT IN NONPROFITS ASSIST THE VETTING, THE COMPLIANCE AND HONORING AND FEATURES AND FUNCTIONS AND I WANTED TO SAY NO MATTER WHAT WE DECIDE, WE THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT CALL AT SUCH A CRITICAL TIME. >> GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>JUDGE CANALES: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION WITH REGARDS TO THE UNITED WAY KICKOFF CAMPAIGN 2021? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. WE HAVE A COPY OF THAT FOR THAT YOU WE WILL PROVIDE -- I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT -- TO MONICA LARA ON THE PHONE. BUT BELINDA, WILL YOU HELP US GET THAT RESOLUTION TO -- TO THOSE FOLKS REGARDING OUR DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARENESS MONTH. OKAY, THANK YOU. I THINK WE HAVE TIMED IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE TIMED IT PERFECTLY AT 9:03 A.M. AND I WILL MOVE BACK INTO THE [F. PUBLIC HEARINGS: The Nueces County Commissioners Court will conduct public hearings on the following: 1) pursuant to Section 51.305 of the Texas Government Code, a plan for the preservation and restoration of the Nueces County District Clerk’s court records archives 2) pursuant to Section 118.025 of the Texas Local Government Code, a plan for the preservation and restoration of the Nueces County Clerk’s records archives CLOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND RECONVENE SPECIAL MEETING] PART OF THE AGENDA NOTICED PROPERLY FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. AND THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS PURSUANT TO SECTION 51.305 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, AND THIS CALLS FOR A PLAN FOR THE PRESERVATION AND RESTORATION OF THE NUECES COUNTY DISTRICT CLERK'S COURT RECORDS ARCHIVES. AND THEN WHEN WE FINISH WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE TO THE COUNTY CLERK'S RECORDS ARCHIVES AND ITS PLANS FOR PRESERVATION AND RESTORATION. BUT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE THE DISTRICT CLERK, MISS ANN LOREZEN. AND I YIELD TO YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE CANALES. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR OF OUR PRESERVATION PLAN. IT WAS AGREED TO AND PASSED BY COMMISSIONERS COURT IN NOVEMBER OF 2019, BUT WE HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU EVERY YEAR IN CASE WE HAVE ANY CHANGES. I WANT TO SAY WE ARE CONTINUING WITH THE PRESERVATION PLAN THAT WAS OKAYED IN 2019. THERE IS NOT ANY PACEIC CHANGE THERE. THE ONLY CHANGE WE HAVE IS A FEE CHANGE AND I WILL ASK YOU AND LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE FEE, THE $10 FEE WHICH IS THE LEGISLATIVE FEE, I AM GOING TO NEED TO ASK YOU TO PUT IT IN THE BUDGET ONLY FROM OCTOBER 1 OF THIS YEAR TO THE END OF DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR. AS OF JANUARY 1, OUR FEE GOES UP TODAY 30 AND DOES NOT NEED PERMISSION FROM COMMISSIONERS COURT AFTER THIS. IT WILL BE A CERTAIN FEE THAT WE WILL BE CHARGING ON CERTAIN DOCUMENTS. I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT. I WOULDN'T TO THANK CO-FILE VERY, VERY MUCH BECAUSE WE STARTED THIS PRESERVATION PLAN DURING COVID AND FOR A WHILE NOTHING THAT EITHER ONE OF US COULD DO; HOWEVER, AS SOON AS BUSINESSES -- BUSINESSES WERE OPEN, COVID CAME RIGHT IN AND STARTED TAKING THE CASE FILES THAT WE NEEDED. OUR ARCHIVES. THANKS KATHY AND SCOTT, OUR REPRESENTATIVES THAT ARE HERE. THEY ARE VERY DILIGENT AND THE PRESERVATION AND ARCHIVING. BECAUSE OF THAT I WANT TO UPDATE YOU A LITTLE BIT WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH AND I KNOW THAT COME COURT K KNOWS WE DO HAVE ALL OF THE INDEXES AND MINUTES FOR THE 28TH DISTRICT COURT. THEY ARE ALL IN THEIR SAFETY BINDERS AND SPECIAL SHELVING IN MY OFFICE AND THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO COME IN TO LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTS 1850 TO 1950. IT IS AMAZING TO SEE HOW THEY DID THINGS. THE WRITING -- JUST THE WRITE SOMETHING -- IT IS AN ART. THE WRITING THAT THE CLERK'S HAD IS CERTAINLY AN ART. [00:30:02] WE ALSO -- THE QUICK LINK SITE THAT IS GOING TO HOUSE THE GREAT BIG INDEX BOOKS THAT WE STILL USE IS GOING TO BE ONLINE SO THAT OUR CLERKS WITH GO IN AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO EITHER COME OVER TO THE COURTHOUSE AND GO OVER TO THE WAREHOUSE. SO THAT IS GOING TO BE ONLINE SHORTLY. ALSO, WE HAVE HAD 38,674 CIVIL CASE FILES SCANNED AND INDEXED. AND THESE FILES ARE NOW READY TO BE IMPORTED INTO THE ODYSSEY CASE MANAGEMENT. SO THAT IS COMING UP IN A SHORT WHILE. THAT IS MY REPORT. THANK YOU, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I ALSO WANT TO -- IF IT IS OKAY -- TO INVITE THOSE PARTICULARLY HERE IN THE CO COURTHOUSE THAT WANT TO SEE THAT INCREDIBLE FRAME. SHARE THAT INFO WITH US. >> YES. THE FRAME THAT WE GOT -- WE GOT TWO SHADOWBOXES FROM KOFILE. IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. THE COVERS FOR THE VERY FIRST TWO MINUTE BOOKS OF THE 28TH DISTRICT COURT. AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THAT SHADOWBOX -- THAT SHADOWBOX JUST WHAT DETERIORATION WAS TAKING PLACE WHILE THEY SAT OVER THERE IN THE WAREHOUSE FOR ALL THESE YEARS AND NOW YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE PRESERVE PAGES OF THAT -- THAT ARE IN THE SECOND PART OF THAT SHADOWBOX IS THE ACTUAL CASE THAT THEY WILL BE STORED IN. IT IS FIRE-PROOF. IT IS WATER-PROOF. HOPEFULLY WITH WE HAVE A HURRICANE OR WHATEVER, WE WILL STILL HAVE THEM ONLINE BUT ALSO HAVE THEM BECAUSE THEY WILL BE SAFE. SO -- ANYONE IS WELCOMED TO COME TO MY OFFICE. AND LOOK AT THEM. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST REALLY A BEAUTIFUL SIGHT TO SEE WHEN YOU CAN HAVE THIS KIND OF RESTORATION. , AND I ALSO WANTED TO COMMENT THAT THANKS TO THIS COMMISSIONERS COURT, WE REALLY WERE ABLE TO NOT ONLY AUGMENT WHAT THE FEE DOES FOR US, BUT PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHY WE MAKE THESE INVESTMENTS WHEN WE TAKE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION AND WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN YOUR COMMUNITY. SO YOU CAN HAVE A STRONG RATING THAT YOU CAN GO UTILIZE THAT RATING TO BORROW THE MONEY TO MAKE THESE INVESTMENTS. SO THANKS TO 2020 COS AND 2021 COS, WE MADE THESE INVESTMENTS AND MUCH MORE WORK TO DO. I CHALLENGE US AFTER HEARING THIS GREAT PLAN TO DO MILES PER HOUR. AND I HOPE THAT PRESENTS ITSELF. I KNOW IT WILL. SO I AM SORT OF FORESHADOWING, BUT I DO BELIEVE WE ARE MAKING GREAT STRIDES, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO MAKE THE GREAT STRIDES, OTHERWISE WE ARE THE ONE THAT'S KNOW ABOUT IT. I AM NOT CERTAIN HOW WE DO THAT BUT HOPEFULLY WHEN WE GET MORE DEDICATED FOLKS FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION, WE CAN MAKE NEW STORIES OUT OF THIS. JUST A TREMENDOUS -- I MEAN, WHAT IS HAPPENING IS USUALLY HAPPENS AND RESERVED FOR VERY LARGE COMMUNITIES AND CITIES. AND NOW WE ARE JOINING THE P PACK. >> THAT IS PART OF MY DUTIES AND I AM VERY, VERY HAPPY TO FINALLY BE ABLE TO FULFILL THAT DUTY. >>JUDGE CANALES: VERY EXC EXCITING, ANN. I HAVE WANT TO ASK DALE. OCTOBER 1 TO DECEMBER 1. SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE DO DIFFERENTLY POST JANUARY. JANUARY 1, WE ARE NOT -- THE LEGISLATURE SAYS DISTRICT COURT, YOU GOT THIS -- DISTRICT CLERK, YOU GOT THIS. ARE YOU OKAY AND DO WE NEED TO SEE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR THIS IN THE FUTURE? >> IN OUR BUDGET REQUIREMENTS, WE SET REVENUE AND EXPENSES AT A CERTAIN RATE, AND NO NEED -- >>JUDGE CANALES: PERFECT. WE ARE DOING GREAT. >> WE HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR YOU TO APPROVE THAT FEE LATER TODAY -- OF. >>JUDGE CANALES: LATER TODAY IN OUR AGENDA. I WILL TURN NOW TO OUR COUNTY CLERK PURSUANT TO DIFFERENT SECTION OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE AND READ THAT FOR ANNOUNCEMENT, 118.02537 AND SHE WOULD LIKE TO VISIT WITH US WITH THE PRESERVATION OF THOSE RECORDS. >> WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY -- THEY DIDN'T GIVE IT TO US. WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND GET APPROVAL, WHICH IS FINE, BECAUSE KEEPS YOU ACCOUNTABLE. LAST YEAR Y'ALL APPROVED THE $10 FEE ALONG WITH THE PLAN, WHICH WAS TO PRESERVE THE ARCHIVAL OF MANUSCRIPTS. EVERYTHING WAS DONE AND COMPLETEDND AN AGENDA EYE -- ITEM ON THE AGENDA TO PAY THEM. I THANK YOU AND THANK YOU ALL AS WELL. YOU ARE GREAT. WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A WHILE IN THE OFFICE. AND THE NEXT STAGE WILL BE -- [00:35:05] PASSED IT OUT TO Y'ALL. ARCHIVING, THE REMAINING 678 VOLUMES, DEED OF OIL AND GAS RECORDS, WHICH IS NEEDED. AND USING THE -- ALSO THE BIRTH AND DEATH RECORDS USING EXISTING IMAGES TO PUT THEM INTO VANGUARD AND TO INDEX. NOW A LOT OF WHAT WE WILL BE DOING IS INDEXING ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MINUTES. ALL THE RECORDS FROM COMMISSIONERS COURT. THEY ARE UP NOW, BUT THEY ARE DIFFICULT TO FIND ONLINE. SO THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO, YOU EVER KNOW, INDEX THEM AND GET THEM EASIER. ANOTHER PROJECT THEY ARE GOING TO WORK ON THIS YEAR AND THAT IS PART OF.TAMPA ALSO FOR SERVING THE. THAT S. AND GETTING THOSE ONLINE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT WILL BE GREAT TOO. >> I WILL ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL AND KEEP IT AT THE $10 FEE. >>JUDGE CANALES: LATER IN THE AGENDA WHEN WE GET TO THE FEE. THIS IS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING WHERE WE TALK OF THE PLAN. YOU GET TO HEAR FROM THE CUSTODIANS OF THE PLAN AND YOU ARE FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU HAVE ANY. >> I THINK THE LEGISLATURE IN THEIR WISDOM DECIDED TO MAKE THIS A PART OF THE PROCESS GOING FORWARD. IS THAT WHAT I HEARD FROM ANN'S PART? I SHOULD HAVE ASKED HER WHILE SHE WAS STILL THERE AND SHE SAID IT WAS COMING UP ON THE AGENDA. THAT IS FINE. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I DIDN'T SEE THAT THEY APPROVED IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I ASKED AN N ON OCTOBER 25. THEY ACTUALLY CHANGED QUITE A BIT OF FEES AND WILL GIVE US A WHOLE BREAKDOWN -- SOME PLACES WE WON AND SOME PLACES KIND OF LOST AND SORT OF A BALANCING AND ON THE 27TH, THE OFFICE WILL GIVE US A COMPLETE BREAK DOWN, BUT, YES, THEY DEFINITELY APPLIED IT TO ONE SIDE AND NOT THE OTHER. >> WHAT THE HECK. >>JUDGE CANALES: LIKE YOU S SAID, A BALANCING ACT. NEXT TIME. ALL RIGHT, IF I HAVE NO OTHER COMMENTS ONLINE OR FROM COMMISSIONERS OR HERE, I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME. AND THE TIME FOR OUR COUNTY CLERK IS 9:13 A.M. I DON'T KNOW -- I SAID IT WAS 9:03. DIDN'T WE. 9:03. NOW 9:13 FOR THE CLOSURE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND RECONVENE OUR SPECIAL -- OUR MEETING HERE AT 9:13 -- 9:14 A.M. ACHED STRAIGHT INTO ITEM H. [1. Sgt. Israel Trevino, Jr., Nueces County Constable's Office, Precinct No. 2 - Lifesaving Recognition.] H IS THE CERTAIN CERTIFICATES. OFFICER TREVINO PRECINCT NUMBER 2 AND CONSTABLE MCCANN IS HERE WITH US AND I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD TO HIM FOR THIS IMPO IMPORTANT. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, TO PRESENT TO SERGEANT TREVINO FOR HEROIC AND LIFESAVING ACTIONS IN CORPUS CHRISTI. YOUR ACTIONS HAVE THE HIGHEST STANDARD OF CONDUCT FOR -- EXCUSE ME -- FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PROFESSION AND BRINGS GREAT CREDIT TO HIS COUNTY CONSTABLE OFFICE PRECINCT 2. SIGNED BY ME AND CHIEF. SERGEANT TREVINO, PRESENT WITH YOU THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYTHING TO SAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: SERGEANT, WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS? >> YES, MA'AM. ON THIS DAY I WENT TO DINNER IN TOWN. AND MY PARTNER AND I WERE JUST TALKING. AND HE STANDS UP -- >>JUDGE CANALES: THEY ARE ASKING FOR YOU TO LIFT THIS AND HEAR THIS IMPORTANT STORY. >> MY PARTNER STOOD UP AND CAUGHT MY ATTENTION. I LOOKED BACK AND I SEE SOMEONE STRUGGLING TO BREATHE. I IMMEDIATELY MADE MY WAY TO THE TABLE AND GRABBED THE FEMALE, A MINOR, 15 YEARS OLD. HER PARENTS WERE VERY SCARED. SO WE STARTED DOING THE HEIMLICH ON HER. A COUPLE OF TIMES SHE ALMOST PASSED OUT ON ME UNTIL THE FOOD WAS DISLODGED AND SHE WOULD BREATHE AGAIN. AND IT WAS -- IT WAS SCARY. AND I AM GLAD EVERYTHING WORKED OUT FOR HER. AND I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE. THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, SERGEANT. YOU KNOW WHAT SEEMS ROUTINE FOR THOSE OF HOW WEAR UNIFORMS IS REALLY NOT. AND KEEPING YOUR COOL, YOU K KNOW, UNDER TREMENDOUS PRESSURE WHEN YOU ARE REALLY NOT ON [00:40:01] DUTY. WHEN YOU ARE ON DUTY ALL YOUR SENSES ARE SO HEIGHTENED BUT THIS STORY SHOWS US THAT YOU ARE NOT ALWAYS OFF DUTY. YOU ARE ALWAYS ON POINT. AND THAT FAMILY, THAT MOM AND DAD, ARE FOREVER GRATEFUL FOR YOU SAVING THE LIFE OF THEIR PRECIOUS CHILD. SUCH AN HONOR TO HAVE FINE MEN AND WOMEN SERVE NUECES COUNTY. AND FROM TIME TO TIME, THE HEROIC ACTIONS NOT ONLY NEED TO BE ANNOUNCED BUT WITH SUCH RESPECT, I JUST FEEL SO GOOD THAT YOU ARE PART OF OUR TEAM. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> SAME THING, JUDGE. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO ALL THE TIME. BUT WHAT AN AMAZING HEROIC ACT. I KNOW FOR YOU DOING WHAT YOU WOULD DO NORMALLY, BUT NOT WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES NORMALLY WHY YOU ARE IN THE POSITION YOU ARE IN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. IT IS APPRECIATED. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. I WANT TO COMMEND OUR CONS CONSTABLE. YOU KNOW, LEADERSHIP REQUIRES THAT WE ALSO HIGHLIGHT THOSE UNDER US, YOU KNOW. AND I THINK THAT YOU TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO COMMISSIONERS COURT AND LETTING US KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, WHAT TRANSPIRED AND HOW YOU WANTED TO RECOGNIZE SAYS SO MUCH FOR YOUR OFFICE. AND PEOPLE WANT TO SERVE WITH PEOPLE WHO KNOW HOW TO LEAD AND KNOW HOW TO PRAISE, RIGHT. WE ARE BOTH REFEREES AND CHEERLEADERS AS LEADERS AND I WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE I THINK THAT SO OFTEN WE DO FEEL IN PUBLIC SERVICE MAYBE NOT APPRECIATED. PART OF LEADERSHIP IS MAKING YOUR OFFICE FEEL VERY VALUEDND THAT IS WHAT YOU DID TODAY. SO KUDOS TO YOU AS WELL AND YOUR ENTIRE TEAM FOR JOINING US HERE. AND SO I JUST -- I WANT TO EXPRESS MY THANKS. AS PART OF THAT THANKS IN VA VALUING YOUR TIME, YOU HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADVANCE. I DO WANT TO FINISH A COUPLE OF THINGS BUT IF YOU WILL BE PATIENT AND WE WILL NOT MAKE YOU WAIT UNTIL THE AFTERNOON. WE WILL -- AS LONG AS COMMISSIONER CHESNEY AGREES, CHECK ADVANCE THAT ITEM. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: IN JUST A MOMENT -- COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR HEARING NONE? AGAIN, SERGEANT, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I AM HAVING DINNER CLOSE BY YOU. THANK YOU, AGAIN. [2. Jason Ott, County Extension Agent Coordinator - Agriculture, 4-H, for 8 years of service to Nueces County.] >> BE SAFE. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES. ITEM H-2. A CERTIFICATE -- >> WE WILL HAVE TO TABLE THAT ONE. WE LEARNED THIS MORNING -- SOMETHING CAME UP HE WAS NO NOT ABLE TO BE HERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER 2. RECOGNITION TO THE 27TH. I WILL TAKE COMMISSIONER ECONOMIES KNEE AS A SECOND AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. CATCH JASON LATER. AT THIS TIME GET THROUGH ITEMS A AND K, AND BRING BACK CONSTABLE MCCANN. [1. Discuss the COVID-19 response, plans for COVID-19 testing, alternative care sites, Governor Orders, amended Orders, and activities related to area economic recovery; receive update from the Nueces County Emergency Operations Center.] MOVE TO THE GENERAL INFORMATION REPORT. OUR EMERGENCY AGENT COORDINATOR TO DESCRIBE COVID-19 RESPONSE AND THE UPDATE FROM THE NUECES COUNTY EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER. >> JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, GOOD TO SEE YOU THIS MORNING. I JUST HAVE A FEW THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT WITH REGARD TO OUR COVID OPERATIONS. THE LATEST NUMBERS AS OF YESTERDAY WAS 31 NEW COVID CASES. ONLY ONE NEW DEATH. 93 PATIENTS WERE HOSPITALIZED YESTERDAY WITH 45 IN ICU. ICU AVAILABLE REMAINS LOW IN THE REGION, AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT BRIEFLY JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT NUMBER IS NOT CONFUSING. WE HAD THE ICU NUMBERS CONTINUE TO GO DOWN, BUT WE STILL TALK OF THEM BEING LOW. THE REASON FOR THAT IS, THE ACTUAL BED NUMBERS IN THE ICU ARE LIMITED. THEY WERE OPENING UP OTHER WINGS TO PUT PEOPLE IN, OVER THE LAST MONTHS, AND SO, THEY ARE NOT -- THOSE NUMBERS ARE NOT INCLUDED AND STILL CONSIDERED LOW WITH ICU BECAUSE THE NURSES THAT WERE DEDICATED TO THOSE EXTRA WINGS WILL BE ABLE TO PUT BACK WHERE SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN BACK TO WHERE THEY WORK AND OF THE REGULAR SITUATION. I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE ON THOSE NUMBERS. WE HAVE STILL MULTIPLE LOCATION THAT'S WE ARE SUPPORTING THE -- THE CITY, COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT. AND VACCINATIONS. AND THOSE ARE STILL OCCURRING ALL OVER OUR COUNTY. [00:45:02] I WANT TO JUST REMIND THAT YOU NUECESKNOWS.COM IS WHERE YOU NEED TO GO FOR THAT INFORMATION AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO -- WE WANT YOU TO GO FLORIDA TO FIND OUT WHERE THOSE ARE, BECAUSE THEY ARE DAILY, AND THEY ARE DIFFERENT DAILY, AND SO I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU OF THAT. I JUST WANT TO -- JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THE BIG NUMBERS THAT WE GET FROM LAMP THEM IN. AUGUST, 11,240. AND SEPTEMBER TO DATE, 6696. SO THAT IS REALLY GOOD NEWS, THAT THE VACCINATION NUMBERS FOR SEPTEMBER ARE GREATER THAN JULY. THAT TELLS US THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL CONTINUING TO SEE THE NEED EVEN THOUGH CASE -- ACTUAL CASES HAVE BEEN GOING DOWN, WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE SEEING THE NEED TO BE VACCINATED AND THAT IS A WONDERFUL THING AND I THINK IT SAYS A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT THERE GETTING THAT DONE AND MARKETING AND EDUCATING. SO THAT -- THAT IS A BIG POSITIVE. OUR HIGH DAY TOTAL FOR SEPTEMBER WAS 489. STILL A LOT OF PEOPLE SEEING THE NEED TO BE VACCINATED. LET'S SEE. I WANT TO -- -- OH THE -- THE REGIONAL INTRUSION CLINIC AT -- AT THE BORCHARD FAIRGROUNDS IS STILL GOING ON. I THINK I TOLD YOU IN THE LAST UPDATE, THAT WE CHANGED AT THE PHYSICIANS WEST LOCATION, 2601 HOSPITAL DRIVE. WE TRANSITIONED THAT LOCATION FROM INFUSION TO VACCINATION. AND JUST BECAUSE THE NEED FOR VACCINATION -- OR INFUSION NUMBERS WERE GOING DOWN AND NO NEED TO HAVE TWO SIDES 37 AND SO THAT HAS BEEN -- HAS BEEN TRANSITIONED OUT TO THE FAIRGROUNDS. THAT -- THAT LOCATION CONTINUES TO DO WELL. IT IS STILL BEING MANAGED BY THE BCS. AND OKAY, I WANTED TO UPDATE YOU ON WINTER STORM. I TOLD YOU LAST TIME THAT WE GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT OF BAD NEWS THAT WE WERE ONE OF 244 COUNTIES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN -- THAT HAD NOT MET THE ORIGINAL THRESHOLD. AND WERE BEING DENIED FUNDS, BUT I ALSO TOLD YOU IT WAS UNDER APPEAL, RIGHT. SO THE GOOD THING IS, WORKING TOGETHER WITH HAGGERTY WHO IS PHENOMENAL IN WHAT THEY DO. AND THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, WE WERE ABLE TO FIND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT HAD HAPPENED DURING THAT TIME THAT HAVEN'T BEEN TURNED IN, SOME DAMAGES THAT HAD NOT BEEN TURNED IN. AND WE HAVE NOW DONE THAT. AND THE PROPER WAY THROUGH THE AYE PALES PROCESS. AND I AM GLAD TO -- THROUGH THE APPEALS PROCESS. AND I AM GLAD TO TELL THAT YOU WE THINK THEY WHICH MAMET THAT THRESHOLD TO RECOUP THOSE EXPENSES AND EXCITED THAT THAT AND LET YOU KNOW THROUGH THE APPEALS PROCESS. FEEL FREE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE WITH REGARD TO COVID AND ONE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT. >> WHERE TO WE FIND THE DAILY, WEEKLY, MONTHLY STATUS IN OUR COMMUNITY? IS THAT ON THE DAILY DATA DUMPS OF OUR COMMUNITY? AS FAR AS HOW MANY ARE ACTUALLY VACCINATED? ARE WE SEEING THAT ON THE DAILY BASIS OR ON THE WEB SITE? >> I BELIEVE IT IS ON THE WEB SITE. I THINK YOU CAN FIND THOSE NUMBERS. I WILL GET THAT TO YOU COMMISSIONERS. I DON'T SEE THAT NUMBER DAILY. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS COME MORE FROM OUR PUBLIC HEALTH WEB SITE. I DO KNOW THAT RECENTLY -- WE HAVE A NEW DASHBOARD. DO YOU REMEMBER THAT COMMUNITY RISK DASHBOARD. THAT WAS TAKEN OFF FOR A WHILE BECAUSE IT WAS TTALE AND DID NOT HAVE ANYBODY TO DO THE STATISTICS AND WE GOT FUNDS AT CITY COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH AND REHIRED THE STATISTICIANS AND I BELIEVE IT IS STILL CURRENT AND WE SHOULD DO THAT ON THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WEB SITE AND WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS LINK IT UP TO NUECES KNOWS SO IT IS EASY FOR EVERYBODY AND I AM CERTAIN THAT ALL OF THE PIE CHARTS THAT I SAW LAST WEEK WOULD SHOWCASE WHAT OUR FULLY POPULATED VACATION RATE IS AND BREAKS IT DOWN BY SENIOR CITIZENS AND AGE CATEGORIES. >> NOW THAT YOU MENTION THAT, I THINK THAT IS IN THERE. I WASN'T SURE WHAT YOU WERE ASKING BUT I THINK THAT IS ON THERE. ALSO COMMISSIONER, I APOLOGIZE, I WAS HOPING TO HAVE THE [00:50:07] DIRECTOR OF THE CITY COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND LAST MINUTE SHE WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE AND YOU ASKED FOR THAT LAST TIME AND SHE WANTED TO BE HERE AND SHE WILL. >> IF NOT HERE, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ MENTIONED DR. WILMONT. SO VERY CAPABLE AS WELL AND I KNOW SHE IS VERY BUSY. >> YOU BET. >> THANKS FOR BECKY ASKING ME THAT QUESTION TO LOOK INTO THE EVACUATE STATUS. IT'S THERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT'S THERE AND WE NEED TO MAKE IT MORE. THE DASHBOARD IS WHAT I ADVOCATED IN THE BEGINNING WHEN THE SURGES COME AND YOU THINK TO YOURSELF WE HAVE A WONDERFUL DECLINE AND THIS DOES MAKE US FEEL GOOD THAT WE ARE IN DECLINE, BUT AS THEY SAY, WINTER IS COMING. AND SO WE WANT TO BE READY FOR WINTER AND THE OTHER THING, GARRETT, THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF NEWS LATELY AS IN THE LAST SEVEN DAYS WITH REGARDS TO BOOSTERS AND I WANT TO SAY THAT WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC THIS WEEK WITH REGARDS TO BOOSTERS. WHAT WE WAIT FOR IS ONCE YOU SEE THAT EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, APPROVE FROM THE FDA, IT GOES TO THAT CDC AND COMES ALL THE WAY TO DISHES IN TEXAS AND THEY GIVE US OUR MARCHING ORDERS. IT TAKES -- ALMOST LIKE A WEEK LAG TIME FROM THE TIME YOU HEAR ABOUT IT ON THE NATIONAL NEWS AND THE TIME YOU ARE READY TO SAY GO. BUT JUST KNOW THAT OPERA OPERATIONALLY, GARRETT AND HIS TEAM IS READY. THEY ARE READY EVERY DAY, BUT I DO THINK THAT THE COURTHOUSE IS A LOCATION WHERE YOU CAN. YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET THE BOOSTER QUITE FRANKLY WITH ALL THREE IN MIND WITH ALL -- AS LONG AS OUR SUPPLY IS IS AVAILABLE. >> THAT'S CORRECT, YES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, I WILL GO AHEAD TO MOVE ON TO THE LAST THING I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHICH IS THE FULL-SCALE EXERCISE THAT MYSELF AND THE DEPUTY, NUECES EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR ATTENDED ON OCTOBER 6. THIS WAS THE FULL-SCALE EXERCISE AT THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI. FULL-SCALE EXERCISES ARE EXCELLENT TOOLS TO HAVE A NONLIFE-THREATENING WAYS TO SEE HOW PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER. AND THIS WAS -- AND IN EXCELLENT FASHION. THANKS DANIELLE HALE AND CHRISTOPHER VOICE WITH THEIR SKILLS AND DOING SUCH AN EXCELLENT JOB. THEY LED THE PLANNING AND IT WAS DONE -- MULTIPLE AGENCIES INVOLVED IN THE PLANNING AND THEY WERE THE ONES THAT MANAGED THAT AND PUT ON QUITE AN EXERCISE AND WAS VERY, VERY WELL-DONE. AND THANKS TO LETTING -- LETTING US BE INVOLVED IN THAT THE EXERCISE WAS A TANKER CRASH SIMULATED AND IN FRONT OF THE TERMINAL OPERATED BY HOWARD N PARTNERS. THIS CREATED A LARGE SIMULATED SPILL INTO THE SHIPPING CHANNEL. IT INVOLVED A SITUATION THAT WAS VERY REAL WORLD AND VERY POSSIBLE AND THE POTENTIAL IS CERTAINLY OUT THERE. IF YOU HAVE DRIVEN IN THAT CORRIDOR IN THAT AREA, THE NUMBER OF TANK TRUCKS FLYING BY ARE STAGGERING AND THERE IS AN AREA THERE WHERE THEY PULL OVER TO TURN TO GO INTO THE MAVERICK TERMINAL AND SO IT IS A PLACE THAT YOU CAN IMAGINE DAILY. THERE IS A REAL -- A REAL POTENTIAL FOR THIS TYPE OF CRASH THERE. SO I FELT LIKE THAT WAS REALLY WELL-DONE. THE SIMULATION IS ALWAYS R REALTIME TO CREATE A LIFE-LIKE DECISION TIMING REQUIREMENTS. SO EVEN THE -- THE ENGINES THAT ARE RESPONDING FROM THE FIRE STATIONS, THEY TIME THEIR RESPONSE TO BE JUST LIKE IT WOULD IN REALTIME. THE SECOND ARRIVING GETTING THERE LATER LIKE THEY WOULD IN A REAL INSTANCE THAT THE COMMANDER WHO WAS THERE EARLY HAS TO FILL THAT TIME. AND THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY WILL DO WHEN THEY WAIT FOR OTHERS TO RESPOND. WE DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO MANGE THESE TYPE SCENARIOS VERY LIFE-LIKE. IT DID INVOLVE MULTIPLE AGENCIES AND RESPONDERS INCLUDING LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL RESOURCES AND INVOLVED MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS AS YOU CAN IMAGINE. PROBABLY UNLIKE ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY COULD YOU HAVE THAT MANY AGENCIES AND JURISDICTIONS REQUIRED AT AN INCIDENT JUST BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT LOCATION AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS AREA. AFTER THE MORNING SIMULATION OF [00:55:05] THE DISASTER, WE -- WE THEN RECONVENED AT THE ORTIZ ENTER AS A HOT WASH. IT IS A TIME WHERE EVERYBODY PART OF THE INCIDENT TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO UP TO MICS SET IN THE AREA AND SAY WHAT DO YOU SEE THAT WE NEED TO IMPROVE ON? WHAT STRECHX WERE REVEALED BY THIS EXERCISE? WHAT WEAKNESSES REVEALED BY THIS EXERCISE. YOU ALWAYS LEARN FROM THIS PROCESS AND WE DID FROM THIS ONE. DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP THAT WERES POSITIVE AND MOVING FORWARD BECOMING MORE AND MORE STRONG AS WE FOCUS ON THOSE STRENGTHS THAT WE HAVE. THE DAY ENDED WITH US INVESTIGATE UP WHAT WE CALL A UNIFIED COMMAND STRUCTURE AND A DOOZY FOR A UNIFIED COMMAND STRUCTURE WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND JURISDICTIONS, SETTING UP A COMMAND STRUCTURE WITH ALL OF THOSE LEADERS AND HAVING THEM TALK THROUGH THE EXERCISE ON WHAT WAS NEEDED WHEN, WHERE THOSE RESOURCES WOULD COME F FROM, WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY WOULD BE FOR THOSE RESOURCES AND HOW THOSE DECISION ALSO BE APPLIED TO THAT INCIDENT. WE DON'T ALWAYS GO INTO DEPTH IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS. BUT OFTENTIMES, IT HAS BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL -- NOT OF OFTENTIMES BUT OCCASIONALLY TO DO THAT JUST SO WE CAN EXERCISE THAT PART AS WELL, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THAT IS WHEN THINGS FAIL IS WHEN PEOPLE TALK OF JURISDICTION AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY WORK TOGETHER. A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYBODY TO MEET EACH OTHER AND SEE -- PUT FACES WITH NAMES AND HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES TO SIT IN THE SAME ROOM AND WORK TOGETHER. SO -- THIS ONE AGAIN WAS VERY WELL-DONE. WE GOT THAT OPPORTUNITY IN SPADES. OVERALL, THIS IS REALLY A GREAT EXERCISE OF LEARNING OPPORTUNITY. AND I CAN TELL YOU FOR ME PERSONALLY, WHAT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO PUT FACES WITH NAMES. I WAS ABLE TO MEET ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT I WOULD NEED TO INTERFACE WITH IN ORDER TO MAKE DECISIONS AND -- AND DO WHAT WE CAN FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY. AND SO IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ME PERSONALLY BUT FOR ALL OF THE AGENCIES A GREAT DAY. I JUST WANTED TO REPORT TO YOU ON THAT. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY THOSE DRILLS ARE INVALUABLE. PND. AND, YOU KNOW, WE -- UNFORTUNATELY, WE LIVE IN A TIME WHERE YOU HAVE TO DRILL FOR THE UNFORESEEN. WHATEVER YOU THINK IS EXTREME, AN EXTREME WEATHER EVENT, EXTREME ACT OF HUMAN NATURE, A HUMAN ACT OF MOTHER NATURE, I MEAN, IT CAN HAPPEN AND IT SEEMS TO HAPPEN TO US MORE OFTEN THAN IT SHOULD. SO BY BEING BEING PREPARED AND READY, THAT IS THE WAY THAT I WOULD, WITH CONFIDENCE, CAN SAY WE LEAD THIS DEPARTMENT, PREPARED TO ACT. AND IT GIVES ME GREAT -- YOU KNOW, COMFORT TO KNOW THAT WE ACT SO WELL COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE OTHER AGENCIES IN OUR JURISDICTION. THANK YOU, GARRETT, FOR THAT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR GARRETT REGARDING ANY OF THE TOPICS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT? VACCINATIONS? AGAIN, LOOK FOR IMPORTANT INFORMATION COMING OUT ABOUT GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION FOR BOOSTERS. WE ARE OPEN AT THE OUTLETS IN THE -- IN THE ROBSTOWN AREA. THE OUTLETS THAT WERE FORMALLY OUTLETS. THEY ARE NOT ANYMORE AND LA PALMYRA MALL AND ALL OTHER SITES AND THE COASTAL BEND W WELLNESS WHO ARE OUR PARTNERS. AND WITH THE DEATH OF SUCH A GREAT DIPLOMAT, SUCH A GREAT STATESMAN AND SUCH A GREAT GENERAL COLIN POWELL THIS MORNING, CERTAINLY HIGHLIGHTS THAT WHETHER YOU ARE VACCINATED OR NOT, COVID REMAINS A VERY SERIOUS HEALTH CRY CITIES IN OUR COUNTRY AND IN OUR WORLD, AND SO WE CAN DO ANYTHING WE CAN. BUT WE KNOW THAT STATISTICS SAY YOU ARE 11 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO DIE FROM A COVID COMPLICATION IF YOU ARE UNVACCINATED. SO THAT 11 TIMES IS WHERE YOU NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON. AND THE OTHER PART IS STAYING HEALTHY. THE CRISIS REVEALS HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO STAY HEA HEALTHY. IN THAT VEIN, LOOK FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO BE PARTNERING WITH FOLKS LIKE THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION AND THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PREVENT DISEASE AND, OF COURSE, ADA AS WELL, AMERICAN DIABETES SOCIAL [01:00:05] DISTANCING. THOSE THE AREAS WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF INFLUENCE OVER. IT IS ABOUT BEING HEALTHY ALWAYS. AND ABOUT DOING WHAT YOU KNOW WORKS, WHICH IS GETTING VACCINATED. IF YOU NEED INFO ON THOSE BOOSTERS. , I PROMISE YOU AS SOON AS THEY GIVE US OUR MARCHING ORDERS THIS WEEK, WE WILL GET THAT INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC. LOOK FOR ALL THREE BOOSTERS TO BE AVAILABLE VERY, VERY SOON. THEY AVAILABLE NOW IF YOU QUALIFY, BUT OBVIOUSLY THIS NEW ROUND OF MORD AND SONIC SONIC SONIC. THERE ARE ALL DIFFERENT -- AND J & J. WE WILL STRENGTH TON OUT FOR YOU AND MORE AND MORE I AM SEEING OUR WHY CAMPAIGNS RUNNING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU THINK THIS BUT I THINK THEY ARE VERY EFFECTIVE AND A CONTRIBUTE TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AS WELL. OKAY, MR. GARRETT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE WILL MOVE ON AND JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I AM -- I HAVE GOT ONE MORE ITEM BEFORE I WILL TAKE OUT OF ORDER OUR HUMAN [1. Nueces County Bail Bond Board] RESOURCE MATTER. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO FINISH IF ITEM K, WHICH IS REALLY QUICK. AN APPOINTMENT DUE TO TYNER LITTLE'S RETIREMENT. THE NUECES COUNTY BAIL BOND BOARD. TYNER WAS ON THAT AND BECAUSE HE IS NO LONGER AN EMPLOYEE, AND MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION AND THAT PERSON IS YOURSELF. >> YES, JUDGE. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE REACHED GETTING THIS FILLED BECAUSE THEY DO MEET AT THE END OF THE MONTH AND TYNER WAS THE SECRETARY AND THEY WANT TO HAVE THAT FILLED. THE COURT DOES DO TWO APPOINTMENTS, ONE IS THE COUNTY JUDGE, THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW -- NOT THE ONE WE ARE ADDRESSING TODAY. THIS IS DULY THE DESIGNEE OF THE COUNTY JUDGE, BUT THE COURT APPROVES. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. AND SO IN THIS REGARD, I WOULD -- IS IT A MOTION THEN THAT I WOULD NEED TO APPOINT BELINDA, JENNY? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT WILL BE -- I GUESS WE APPOINTED TYNER BECAUSE HE WAS THE PERMANENT COURT ADMINISTRATOR. WOULD THAT BE A TEMPORARY APPOINTMENT OR HOW WOULD WE DO IT? >> HOWEVER YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO DO IT. TYNER CARRIED IT OVER BECAUSE HE WAS APPOINTED WITH GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE CAN REVISIT IT AGAIN, BUT FOR END OF THE MONTH. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: DON'T CARE -- I DON'T MEAN I DON'T CARE BUT -- WAS THIS BEING DONE BECAUSE SHE WAS THE TEMPORARY COURT ADMINISTRATOR. SOUNDS LIKE THAT IS NOT WHAT IS DONE -- I WILL MAKE HER THE PERMANENT REPRESENTED I HAVE IT AND NOT TO COME BACK. >>JUDGE CANALES: GOAL THAT THEN. AND TAKE THAT AS A MOTION AND I WILL SECOND. AND IF THERE ARE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY. GREAT. I KNOW WE HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA NEXT ON THE PROFILE HERE, BUT IN THE INTEREST OF OUR CONSTABLE'S TIME. AND ALSO I WILL TAKE OUT OF ORDER -- THE MINUTE WE FINISH WITH CONSENT, I WILL BRING YOU UP NEXT FOR YOUR VALUABLE TIME AS WELL. BUT AT THIS TIME, PLEASE [1. Discuss and consider reclassifying one Deputy Constable III position to a Sergeant position in Constable 2 Office (#3820).] DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO ITEM D 1 -- I KNOW I AM TAKING IT A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER BUT TEXT ME. BUT I FEEL LIKE THE CONSTABLE IS ANSWER -- ITEM D 1, CONSIDER A RECLASS ON A DEPUTY CONSTABLE 3 POSITION TO A SERGEANT POSITION IN CONSTABLE 2 OFFICE. DEPARTMENT 3820. AND CONSTABLE, I WILL LET YOU INTRODUCE IT, AND LET THE COURT -- WHAT I WANT TO KNOW AND EVERYBODY ELSE -- WE ALWAYS ASK FOR THE FUNDING SOURCE WHAT YOU PROPOSE THE FUNDING SOURCE TO BE. I WILL LET YOU TAKE OVER NOW. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE. EARLIER WHEN WE WERE DOING OUR BUDGET, I PUT IT IN THE BUDGET FOR BUDGET INCREASE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. IT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY DENIED. I REACHED OUT TO COMMISSIONER CHESNEY TO FIND OUT THE WHO, WHAT, WHYS AND EVERYTHING. AND HE GRACIOUSLY SAID THAT HE WOULD PAY FOR IT OUT OF HIS FUNDS FOR THIS YEAR AND WE CAN READDRESS IT IN OUR NEXT FISCAL YEAR. SO THE REASON WHY -- AND ALSO TO BACKTRACK A LITTLE BIT. THE REASON I WANT TO RECLASSIFY FROM A DEPUTY 3 TO A SERGEANT, WE WANT TO GO TO A 24-HOUR PRECINCT. IN ORDER TO DO THAT I NEED A SUPERVISOR ON EACH SHIFT, JUST LIKE SERGEANT TREVINO, WE HAVE GOOD PEOPLE ON -- IN THE [01:05:03] DEPARTMENT THAT WE CAN PROMOTE TO SERGEANT AND PUT THEM ON THIRD SHIFT SO HAVE COVERAGE FOR 24 HOURS A DAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, ARE YOU AMENABLE TO THIS? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YES, MA'AM, REAL SMALL. 3500. >> 37257. >> 013. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL SAY THAT 0138. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THE MOTION TO FUND THIS POSITION OUT OF MY PRECINCT 0138 FUNDS AND REVIEW IT IN THE BUDGET NEXT YEAR. >>JUDGE CANALES: SOUNDS GOOD. I AM A BIG FAN OF THE 24-HOUR PRECINCT. I THINK THAT WILL BE A TREMENDOUS VALUE AS YOUR AREA HAS BEEN TERRITORIALLY VERY, VERY LARGE. >> YES, MA'AM. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DO WANT TO ADDRESS THE WHY A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO YOU FEEL LIKE I PUT A IN VERY GOOD BUDGET AND I HAVE A VERY GOOD RATIONALE AND SORT OF A UNDERSTOOD THAT MULTIPLIED BY 50 OTHER GREAT REQUESTS. I THINK THERE IS ALWAYS JUST SO MANY MORE WANTS THEN WE CAN GET TO AND SOMETIMES YOU FIND CREATIVE SOLUTIONS TO GET YOU TO THE SAME END. AND WHAT I WILL SAY DURING THIS YEAR TO MAKE IT PERMANENT, WE WILL NEED A LOT OF GOOD DATA. HEY, YOUR INVESTMENT HERE AS A COURT, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE HIS FUNDS, WE ARE GOING TO SAY YES TO IT. YOUR INVESTMENT REALLY HEMMED US ACHIEVE THIS GOAL. AND I THINK IF YOU START AT THAT DATA TODAY, YOUR CHANCES ARE GOING TO BE REALLY HIGH TO SHOWCASE, HEY, AN EXPERIMENT FUNDED BY ANOTHER COURSE AND IT WORKS AND THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULD KEEP IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, YOU HIT ON IT THE REASON FOR THIS THAT IS SIGNIFICANT IS THE 24 HOUR AND TO MAKE THAT A 24-HOUR PRECINCT FOR $3750 A YEAR IS RIDICULOUSLY LOW INVESTMENT. AND I THINK IT IS A GREAT INITIATIVE BY THE CONSTABLE. AND I APPRECIATE IT. SO IF THAT -- I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE ON THAT. 24-HOUR THING THAT REALLY SELL IT IS FOR ME TOO. I THINK THAT IS JUST GREAT AND I THINK THE PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR THAT THAT HIS PRECINCT WILL BE A 24-HOUR PRECINCT, AND I THINK THAT IS REALLY SIGNIFICANT. REALLY SIGNIFICANT. >>JUDGE CANALES: FAIR ENOUGH. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. APPRECIATE YATE YOUR EFFORTS AND FOR REACHING OUT. >>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION AND A SECOND BY GONZALEZ. THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THERE YOU GO. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED AND KEEP US POSTED ON HOW ALL OF THIS -- >> YES, MA'AM. >>JUDGE CANALES: -- HOW ALL OF THIS -- A NEW OPPORTUNITY FOR US AND WANT TO HEAR HOW IT IS GOING. >> YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: DECIDED TO TAKE THAT OUT OF ORDER AND I SAW HIM HERE AND LET'S GO BACK INTO REGULAR ORDER. [2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.] AND IN THAT VEIN THE CONSENT AGENDA RUNS THE GAMUT FROM ITEMS A ALL THE WAY THROUGH AAA. BECAUSE THE LEAGUE IS HERE AND THEY HAVE -- WITH THEIR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE COULD NOT RESPOND. I WILL GO AHEAD AND REMOVE THAT ITEM SO WE CAN AT LEAST -- I CAN MAKE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE ITEM THAT YOU WERE INTERESTED IN. I KNOW MR. DOWLING WASN'T ABLE TO STAY, BUT YOU CAN PASS ON THE INFORMATION TO HIM. AND I WILL IN ALL ONE -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHICH ONE, JUDGE? >> W. >>JUDGE CANALES: WITH W. THAT WAY HE CAN HOPEFULLY ALLAY SOME FEAR THAT'S SOMETIMES WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING ON CALENDAR, YOU -- OR AGENDA, YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IS THAT. WHERE ARE WE IN THE PROCESS. OKAY, ANYBODY ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE? HOW ABOUT A MOTION THEN, PLEASE. >> ITEM "N.". >>JUDGE CANALES: ITEM "N" AS IN NANCY. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: JUST CLARIFICATION. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET US KNOW THE LETTERS -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THE NUMBERS OR THE LETTERS? >>JUDGE CANALES: THE LETTERS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: LETTER C. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: GIVE YOU ALL THE ONES WITH THE SPECIAL MOTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST THE LETTERS AND WE WILL COME TO THEM INDIVIDUALLY. COMMISSIONER MAREZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY? COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY? COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY? >> I DON'T, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMIS COMMISSIONERS, COULD I GET A [01:10:03] MOTION TO -- EXCLUDING THE ONES WE ALREADY PULLED, C, CAT, N AS IN NANCY AND W AS IN WINDOW. CAN WE -- CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINING. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: ON E, I APOLOGIZED. >>JUDGE CANALES: ON E. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: QUICK POINT. >>JUDGE CANALES: F. E AND F. SEE IF THIRD TIME IS THE CHARM. AGENDA MOTION TO APPROVE ALL ITEMS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF C, F, N AND W. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL SE SECOND. DISCUSSION -- I DID HEAR SOMETHING? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU YOU N? REQU DID YOU SAY SOMETHING? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. WE WILL MOVE JUST IN ORDER. START WITH ITEM C. [C. Authorize payment of bills - Special Motion list dated October 18, 2021; Special Motion List - American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) and Special Motion List - Banc of America Public Capital Corp.] >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NUMBER 7, ITEM C, ALSO WOULD LIKE TO PULL CHECK LA 00762369. GOING TO BE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: INSIDE C? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT ONE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: GIVE ME A SECOND TO LET DALE HELP US WITH THAT ONE. IF IT IS SOMEWHERE ELSE, WE ALREADY APPROVED IT. OKAY. WHY DON'T WE DEAL WITH C. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ALSO NUMBER 11, 12, 13 AND 14. >>JUDGE CANALES: 11-16. AND WHERE ARE THEY? IN ITEM C? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: RI RIGHT. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S DEAL. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: AND ALSO 50. >>JUDGE CANALES: ITEM NUMBER 50? OKAY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: CLARIFICATION ONLY 55-60 -- THROUGH 61. >>JUDGE CANALES: 55-61. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: AND 83, 84 AND 85. >>JUDGE CANALES: 83-85. OKAY. I AM GOING TO NEED TO TURN TO THOSE TO HAVE A POINT OF REFERENCE HERE. IS THERE ONE THAT YOU COULD ADDRESS TO BEGIN WITH, LIKE YOUR ITEM NUMBER -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I JUST NEED CLARIFICATION. >>JUDGE CANALES: DALE, WILL YOU HELP COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ ON THIS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ARE WE STILL USING -- I HEARD A CHILD AGO BCFS THAT THEY WERE DOING STILL SOME TESTING OR SOMETHING. ARE WE STILL USING THEM FOR THE COVID -- IT SAYS HERE "PLANNING, LOGISTICS AND OPERATIONS." $67,000. WHAT DATE -- DO HE A DATE ON THAT? >> IF WE FIND ITEM 7, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO FIND DATES. GONZALEZ GOYNZ UNDERSTOOD THE CITY, COUNTY WERE USING ALL THE STATIONS WITH THE $18 MILLION THEY GOT. REPLACE EVERYTHING WITH CERTAIN TEAMS. SEVEN TEAMS AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS HAPPENING OR NOT OR WHAT IS GOING ON. >> BCFS, WE ARE EWE USING THEM TO MONITOR AND DO OUR SITES. BASICALLY COSTS YOU ARE SHOWING IS IN JULY THAT WE HAVE AND HOURLY RATES IN THERE FOR NUMBER 7. IF YOU FINALLY WANT US TO INVICE FOR THEM AND BASICALLY BUILT 0104 WHICH IS OUR -- OUR EVACUATE SITES FOR EACH ONE OF THEM. THERE IS -- THERE ARE FOUR MUCH THEM. 2014, 19, 2020, 2021 AND 2022 AND 2023. SIX DIFFERENT SITES THAT WE HAVE. THOSE ARE YOUR -- YOUR CORDEL SITES, THE -- I CAN'T THINK OF ALL OF THEM. BUT SEVERAL SITES WE HAVE LOCATED HERE THAT WE HAVE GOOD WILL AND OTHER SITES. SO IT IS JUST THEIR MONITORING AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE S SET-UP AND STUFF FOR THIS. , AND THIS IS HOW WE CUT AND FUNDS ARE REIMBURSABLE THROUGH THE EVACUATE AS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THAT WE HAVE THE MONEY FOR IN THE TWO MILLION. AND SUBMITTING THROUGH OUR NORMAL CHANNELS THROUGH -- THROUGH OUR -- OUR VICTIMS -- [01:15:01] OUR -- CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME OF THE SITE AND FOR FURTHER APPROVAL. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: MY QUESTION IS. ARE THEY PROVIDING SERVICES OR PROVIDING PLANNING AND LOW GUESS FIX? >> PLANNING THE -- PROVIDING THE PLANNING AND LOGISTICS OF THE SITES AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE MANNED AND OPERATED. >>JUDGE CANALES: THIS IS A -- WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS ON SPECIAL MOTIONS, IT IS FOR WORK THAT HAS BEEN PERFORMED ALREADY. >> RIGHT. >>JUDGE CANALES: AND ALSO UNDER A CONTRACT THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED ALREADY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I KNOW THAT, BUT SOMETIMES THE CONTRACTS KEEP ON GOING TO OTHER SITES AND OTHER -- WITHOUT -- BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY -- THEY WANT TO CONTINUE THEM. BUT IT IS -- I JUST WANT TO SAY I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND CERTAIN TIMES THEY WERE GOING TO EXPIRE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIME WAS. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND SET UP A TIME LIMIT THAT THEY WOULD EXPIRE A CERTAIN TIME AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT DAY WAS. I WANT TO KNOW IS THERE A TIME THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO EXPIRE AS FAR AS THE CONTRACT IS CONCERNED? >>JUDGE CANALES: WE CAN GET THAT TO YOU. BUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT HERE, WE ARE TRYING TO APPROVE WORK THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY PERFORMED. IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO THAT WORK, I THINK IT IS GERMANE. BUT IF YOU WERE ASKING A QUESTION THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO PAYING THEM THE SERVICES THAT THEY RENDERED AND FULLY REIMBURSABLE. MAYBE THAT IS BEST DIRECTED TO -- TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OR TO GARRETT NELSON OR TO SEE YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. >> THEY DID REVIEW IS THE INFORMATION AND APPROVE THE REQUEST. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ON THE CHECK REGISTRY -- >>JUDGE CANALES: BY NUMBER? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: DOESN'T HAVE A NUMBER. THE CHECK REGISTRY. >>JUDGE CANALES: OH, THE CHECK REGISTRY, OKAY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SMALL CLASS AND WATER PUMPS -- IS IT WATER PUMPS. >> WHICH ITEM? >>JUDGE CANALES: ON THE CHECK REGISTRY. >> IT WASN'T PULLED. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I PULLED IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: KARA SAID THAT WAS -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHAT A I ASKED. JUDGE, YOU SAID TO COME BACK TO IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I -- GONZALEZ GONZALEZ ANY WAY, HAS THAT ONE BEEN PAID? >> THOSE ARE INVOICE THAT'S WE PROCESSED FOR PAVEMENT. THEY ARE FOR APPROVAL. CHECKS HAVE NOT BEEN RELEASED. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: HAVEN'T BEEN APPROVED YET? >> HAVE THE BEEN RELEASED. >> YES, APPROVED, IS WHAT THEY ARE SAYING. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM OPENING BACK UP TO DISCUSS IT IF YOU NEED TO BECAUSE. I AM NOT SURE WHICH ONE HE IS TALKING ABOUT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK THAT THE ISSUE IS WE WOULD HAVE TO OPEN UP B AGAIN BECAUSE WE ALREADY APPROVED THE PAYMENT OF THESE BILLS. ALL OF THESE BILLS ARE BILLS THAT OCCURRED IN THE PAST. AND -- AND SO -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: LET'S GO BACK TO B, MY BAD. >>JUDGE CANALES: FINISH WITH C AND GO BACK TO B SO YOU CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: AND I AM LOOKING HERE AND WE DO WINTER STORM DISASTER. AND GOT -- GOT FEBRUARY 27-MARCH, JUNE 26 THROUGH JULY. THIS IS THE AMOUNT PAID PER MONTH EVERY TIME WE PAY SOMETHING. AND THIS IS FOR MANAGEMENT -- RECOVERY MANAGEMENT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT RECOVERY MANAGEMENT IS BECAUSE IN THE BOTTOM, 15 AND 16 IS ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES. YOU KNOW, JULY 31-AUGUST, NOT A VERY -- 23,000. SO WHAT IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES. WHAT ARE THEY DOING FOR ADMINISTER TIFF SERVICES. >> WITH THE DISASTER, WINTER STORM RECOVERY AND THE OLD CASES OF HURRICANE HARRY AND IRMA AND WERE AA FUNDS AND MAKING SURE WE -- ARPA FUNDS AND WE ARE MAKING SURE WE ARE HAND THEM PROVELY AND THE DETERMINATION OF THE VALUE OF THE EXPENSE FOR ARPA FUNDS WHETHER THINK QUALIFY FOR USE OR NOT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: MY CONCERN IS WE GO FROM COVID TO TO THE WINTER STORM AND WHATEVER. CAN WE KEEP THIS SEPARATE? JUST SO WE KNOW. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK DALE MENTIONED EVERYTHING BUT THE [01:20:03] BILL IS WINTER STORM. EVERYTHING IS SEPARATE. MARIA -- SHAKING HER HEAD. MAYBE YOU CAN ADDRESS COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ'S UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT IS -- AGAIN, WHEN WE SEE A BILL HERE, THIS IS ALREADY WORK THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PERFORMED THAT THIS COURT HAS APPROVED. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SOMETIMES YOU DON'T -- IF YOU PAY IT OR NOT. BECAUSE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: THEY ARE VETTED. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES FOR 23,000. I DON'T KNOW -- >> SIR, THAT IS BASED ON ACTUAL -- BASED ON ACTUAL TIME. SO THE BACK-UP DOCUMENTATION. THE WAY HAGGERTY'S CONTRACT WORK. WE DO THE ■RFP FOR DISASTER RECOVERY MEASUREMENT. AND WORK AUTHORIZATION FOR EACH KIND OF INDIVIDUAL TASKS AND DISASTER WHICH IS WHY WE KEEP THE COST SEPARATE. WHEN THEY ARE WORKING ON WINTER STORM, THEY WERE WORKING ON FEMA APPLICATION AND GATHERING COSTS AND PERMANENT WORK FOR COVID. YOU KNOW A WHOLE DIFFERENT SETS OF TASKS THERE ALONG WITH HURRICANE HANNA AND EMERGENCY RENTAL PROGRAM AND ANOTHER ONE FOR ARPA. YEAH, THEY DO KEEP THE COSTS SEPARATE BECAUSE COMING FROM DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES. SOME FROM OUR FEMA PUBLIC ASSISTANCE. THEY PAY US UNDER THE FORMER FUNDS THROUGH CR F. THAT IS WHY THEY LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT. THE AMOUNTS WILL CHANGE EVERY MONTH BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THEY DO. THE INVICES COULD AM -- INVOICES COME WITH THE HOURLY RATE AND TIME SHEET, TIME SHEET WITH THE DATES THAT THEY WORK, THE TIMES THEY WORKED AS WELL AS WHAT THEY DID THAT PARTICULAR MONTH. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YOU ARE REVIEWING THOSE BILLS YOURSELF, MARIA, YOURSELF? >> YES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YOU VERIFY THAT WORK HAS BEEN DONE AND WITHIN THE CONTRACT THAT WE HIRED THEM TO DO AND THIS IS APPROPRIATE AND PROPER WORK BASED ON WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN. >> YES. THE INVOICES COME TO ME. SOME ARE PROCESSED THROUGH TERESA AND SOME ARE PROCESSED BY MY OFFICE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: DALE, I GUESS -- YOU ARE MONITORING. YOUR DEPARTMENT MONITORS THESE BILLS TO SOME DEGREE. DO YOU COUNT ON THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT THE BILLS ARE SUBMITTED TO BE THE ONES TO SAY THEY ARE OKAY. >> WE DO BOTH. WE MAKE SURE THAT THE BILLS ARE -- SUBMITTED TO THE DEPARTMENT HEAD AS WELL AS VERIFYING THAT WE HAVE CONTRACTS FOR THESE TO MAKE SURE WHAT THEIR BALANCES ARE. AS MARIA SAYS, WE HAVE A DETAILED LISTS OF TIME AND WEEKLY SHEETS THAT ARE BEHIND EACH OF THE REQUESTS FOR THIS. IT IS VERY WELL INSIDE AND SHOWING THAT GATE LYNN HAS BEEN 57 HOURS. TAYLOR -- SO THOSE ARE YOUR NUMBER OF HOURS, TOTAL 82 HOURS AND OTHER EXPENSES THAT ARE THERE. SO WE DEFINITELY LOOK AT THE COST AND MAKE SURE THAT THE HOURLY RATES AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE OF THE CORRECT PROJECT. >> ARE ALL THESE BILLS, WHEN THEY COME IN, DO THEY. HARD TO LOOK AT IT BUT WHEN THEY COME IN, THIS IS FOR -- THIS IS FOR THIS WORK AND THIS PROJECT AND THIS FUNDING SOURCE AND LUMP INVOICE. >> THEY INVOICE PER WORK AUTHORIZATION CHEST DHES ONE $10,365 RECEIVED ON -- THIS INVOICE, AND HAS ON THE BACK WHAT THE CONSULTANTS HAVE DONE. ONE SOURCE. >> THEIR WORK AUTHORIZATIONS ARE STRUCTURED -- SO THEIR CONTRACT ITSELF HAS A "NOT TO EXCEED" AMOUNT. AND EACH WORK AUTHORIZATION HAS A "NOT TO EXCEED" AMOUNT TO ATTRACT THE COSTS A LITTLE BETTER. WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IS GIVING US A PROPOSAL. WE ESTIMATE THIS MANY HOURS AND AGAIN WE HAVE THAT "NOT TO EXCEED" AMOUNT FOR WINTER STORM. THEY HAVE A WINTER STORM OF X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS. SO ONCE WE GET THE INVOICES. THEY DO INVOICE PER WORK AUTHORIZATION AND IT IS ALL SEPARATE. NOT JUST ONE LUMP. >> SAYS WINTER STORM RECOVERY, SO THAT IS ONE FORM OF ATDIZATION THAT WE HAVE DONE? >> YES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I SAW ANOTHER ONE IN HERE AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS DIFFERENT. I CAN'T FIND IT, SORRY. >> THEY HAD ONE FOR HURRICANE HANNA. THEY HAD ONE FOR -- >>JUDGE CANALES: COVID-19. >> ARPA, ERAP. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YOU ARE VERIFYING THE BILLS AND NOT EXCEEDING WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE SPENDING AND YOU ARE LOOKING AT THESE VERY CARE CAREFULLY. >> YES. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NUMBER 50 -- SINCE YOU ARE THERE. [01:25:02] EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. WHAT ARE THEY DOING WITH THE RENTAL ASSIST PROGRAM, THE ERAP. >> PARTNERED WITH THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND THEY BUILT UP A WEB SITE AND DASHBOARD WHERE ALL THE CASE MANAGERS -- WELL, THE CASES ARE COMING IN AND HAGGERTY HAS CASE MANAGERS ASSIGNED TO GATHER ALL THE RECOMMENDATION -- DOCUMENTATION AND PRETTY EXTENSIVE. THEY GATHER THE DOCUMENTATION TO MAKE SURE THE APPLICANT MEETS THE INCOME GUIDELINES AND VERIFIES PAST-DUE AMOUNTS. AND DO ALL THE QUALITY ASSURANCES AND QUALITY CONTROL AND THOSE CASES COME TO US FOR PAYMENT. >> EXCUSE ME, MARIA. THIS IS COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. WE ARE TALKING OF ALL THIS. THEY HAVE BEEN PREAPPROVED I HEAR THE WORD THAT ALL THESE HAVE BEEN APPROVED. HAVE THEY BEEN PREAPPROVED? EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT APPROVED OR WHAT? >> THEY ARE APPROVED THROUGH MY OFFICE -- >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: HAVE THEY COME THROUGH COMMISSIONERS COURT? >> THE INVOICES, YES. THEY ARE ALWAYS ON SPECIAL MOTIONS. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: BUT BEFORE WE APPROVE THEM? >> BEFORE WE PAY THEM, YEAH. THEY COME THROUGH THE SPECIAL MOTION SINCE THEIR CONTRACT HAS A NOT TO EXCEED TODAY 1 MIL MILLION. THAT IS CONSIDERED SPECIAL MOTION AND EVERY ISSUE WE PUT IT ON THE COMMISSIONERS COURT'S AGENDA FOR APPROVAL. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NONE OF THE CHECKS ARE RELEASED PRIOR TO BEING APPROVED BY US. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET US POINT THIS OUT TO BECAUSE WE HEARD THIS EARLIER. HOW WE HELP THE ENTIRE COUNTY GET OUR MONEY BACK. HOW MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE RECOVERED NOT JUST FOR NUECES COUNTY, BUT HELP COMMIT FOR ALL POLITICAL JURISDICTIONS INCLUDING INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS, WATER DISTRICTS, DRAINAGE DISTRICTS. TRYING THINK OF WHO ELSE, CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. STRONGER JURISDICTIONS AND TOWNS THAT ARE WITHIN NUECES COUNTY. A WAY AND FORMAT THAT IS A VERY DIFFICULT PROCESS. YOU KNOW BECAUSE YOU REMEMBER, AS A COMMISSIONER, THAT WE APPROVED AN RFP PROPOSE SES TO SELECT WHO WILL BE OUR GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR AND WE WOULD HAVE A CONTRACT, WE APPROVED THE CONTRACT AND TERMS TO SAY TO GO TO WORK. I WOULD SAY DIFFERENT LEVELS AND CONTROLS SO THAT WE ARE WATCHING EVERY WEEK WHAT IS BEING SUBMITTED. AND THE RESULTS IS, IS THAT THE APPEAL THAT YOU WERE -- THAT WE WERE DENIED, WE NOW HAVE A FIGHTING CHANCE TO GO GET OUR DOLLARS FOR WINTER STORM. 244 COUNTIES WERE NOT GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY. WE ARE NOW BACK IN THE HUNT FOR THIS DISASTER. THE SAME GOES FOR HANNA AND COVID-19. WE HAVE DIFFERENT PROJECT W WORKSHEETS THAT HELP US. WHEN YOU SEE -- WE WELCOME, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE GREAT QUESTIONS, BUT WHEN YOU SEE IT HERE ON A SPECIAL MOTION, THE WORK IS ALREADY BEEN DONE. IT HAS BEEN PERFORMED UNDER A CONTRACT. WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED. AND WE NEED THIS WORK DONE SO WE CAN GET OUR REIMBURSEMENTS. THIS IS THE PROCESS. AND -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, I THINK HE IS JUST ASKING -- I AM SURE THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE. I THINK THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH ASKING QUESTIONS IF YOU SEE A BILL IN HERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AGREE WITH YOU. I AM KIRNLD IF HE SAYS HE UNDER UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE DOING WHEN THEY MADE MULTIPLE PRESENTATIONS, QUITE FRANKLY, ON ERAP AND WINTER STORM. WE HAD GARRETT HERE. WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO ASK. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE DOING, BUT HOW MUCH WORK ARE THEY DOING TO GET $23,000. >>JUDGE CANALES: THEY ARE DOING THE EXACT WORK -- DOING THE EXACT WORK THEY ARE HIRED TO DO. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: IF YOU WERE WATCHING THEM AS FAR AS YOU KEEPING TAB THAT'S THEY ARE DOING AN AMOUNT OF WORK AND YOU ARE APPROVING IT, THEN, THAT'S FINE. BUT I AM SAYING WHEN -- THREE MONTHS IN A ROW WHEN -- I QUESTION IT BECAUSE I SEE A LARGE NUMBERS. FOR THREE MONTHS IN A ROW, YOU KNOW. I SAY, OKAY, MAYBE THEY ARE,O OR MAYBE THEY ARE NOT. MY QUESTION IS, JUDGE. I WANTED TO CLARIFY AND SAY -- YOU ARE SAYING THAT THEY DO AND THEY STAND BEHIND IT. THAT -- >> I DO. I DO. THEY ARE DOING A LOT, A LOT OF WORK. BUT KNOW, IT IS A REALLY HEAVY LIFT EVEN JUST THE WINTER STORM COSTS, JUST KIND OF TRACKING THEM AND THEY WORK CLOSELY WITH MY OFFICE AND WITH DALE AND THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING THIS RIGHT. I KNOW I COULDN'T DO WHAT I DO WITHOUT THE ASSISTANCE OF HAGGERTY. THEY HAVE BEEN -- YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL AND THEY INVITE ME ON ALL OF THEIR CALLS. SO, YEAH, A LOT OF TIMES YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE [01:30:03] DOING BECAUSE I AM ON THE CALLS THAT THEY HAVE. I AM ON THE E-MAIL FEED AND COPY ON EVERYTHING, NATALIE AND I. SO, YEAH, WE MAKE SURE THEY ARE DOING THEIR JOB. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, APPRECIATE IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK THOSE ARE GOOD QUESTIONS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING -- NOTHING IS GOING OUT BEFORE WE APPROVE IT. BECAUSE CHANCES ARE WE ARE STILL GOING TO APPROVE IT, BUT WANT THE CHANCES TO LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SURE. I LOOK AT BILLS IN MY BUSINESS ALL THE TIME AND YOU LOOK AT THEM TO MAKE THEIR THEY ARE RIGHT AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKE. NOT ANY EVIL INTENT BUT SOMETIMES A BILL COMES IN AND THEY ACTUALLY BILLED IT OR DONE THINGS. PART OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT DEPARTMENT HEADS ASK QUESTIONS. NOT CRITIQUES AND SAY IF YOU ARE STANDING BEHIND THESE BILLS AND DALE IS STANDING BEHIND THESE BILLS AND CHECKS ARE NOT GOING OUT IN ADVANCE. THOSE ARE GOOD QUESTIONS AND NOT A IMPLICATION. MAKE SURE THAT WE AS COMMISSIONER ARE DOING THEIR DUTIES. >> THEIR TIME SHEETS HELP BECAUSE A MATTERER MATCHING MY CALENDAR WITH HAGGERTY'S CALENDAR BECAUSE NATALIE AND I ARE INVITED ON EVERY CALL THAT THEY HAVE AND COPY ON EVERY SINK E-MAIL. LOOKING AT OUR CALENDARS. LOOKING AT THEIR TIME SHEETS AND MAKE SURE THEY MATCH OUT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NOTHING GOES OUT EARLY. >> NOT RELEASED UNTIL THEY ARE APPROVED BY COURT. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT TAKES CARE OF ITEMS 11-16. AND ALSO ITEMS 50 AND ITEMS 55-61 YOU HAD QUESTIONS ON. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: FROM THE NUECES COUNTY ATTORNEY. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE SEEN HERE ON THE SOMETHING WE HAVE DONE AND CONTRACTED ALREADY AS ATTORNEYS FOR CERTAIN CASES? >>JUDGE CANALES: WHICH ONE ARE YOU REFERENCING. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: 55 55-61. INTERESTED FOR CLARIFICATION FOR -- REALLY THE SAME ONE. >>JUDGE CANALES: HE WANTS TO KNOW IF WE ALREADY CONTRACTED WITH ALL THESE LAWYERS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THE ONE WE TALKED ABOUT BEHIND DOORS. >> THEY ARE HIRED ON A CASE AND SUBMIT A BILL. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE HIRE THEM IN OPEN COURT, IN COMMISSIONERS COURT, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL OF THESE BEFORE? >> YES. >> ALL RIGHTY. OKAY. HOW ABOUT ITEMS 83-85. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: 8 3 AND 84, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE ON THAT IS LOOKING AT A BILL OR SOMETHING THAT WAS SUBMITTED AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAS TO DO WITH IT OR NOT BUT I THINK IT DOES LOOKING AT A BILL AND SAYS MOBILIZATION, $2,774,000. HOW DO WE PLAY A MOBILIZATION. IS IT LIKE ONE MOBILIZATION OR TWO MOBILIZATIONS? I DON'T UNDERSTAND. >> WHICH ONE ARE YOU ASKING A QUESTION ON? >> THE BILL. >>JUDGE CANALES: CAN YOU REFERENCE A NUMBER 81, 82, 84 .ONZ >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: HAS TO DO WITH THE FAIRGROUNDS THE BILL ATTACHED, THE 46, BANQUET HALL, 47 BANQUET, 48, 49 THEN SAYS MOBILIZATIONS. >> JUDGE? >>JUDGE CANALES: YES? >> I AM RIGHT HERE. COMMISSIONER, THAT -- THE MOBILIZATION FEE IS THE 20% THAT WE HAVE TO PAY TO ABM FOR THE ENERGY SAVINGS PROJECT. SO THE FIRST BILL IS THE $213,000 IS THE BALANCE OF THE $9 MILLION THAT WE HAVE TO PAY TO THEM. THAT IS THE REMAINDER. AND THE SECOND TWO INVOICES FOR $46,000. THAT IS THE CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 2 FOR ABM. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE MOBILIZATION. THE 20% IS COUNTYWIDE. THE -- OVER THE WHOLE CONTRACT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THAT IS JUST FOR A SPECIAL PROJECT RIGHT THERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE ONLY THING THAT WE ARE APPROVING HERE TODAY IS NOT THE MOBILIZATION EVEN THOUGH HE HAS A QUESTION ON THE MOBILE MOBILEIZATION. WE ARE ASKED TO APPROVE ITEMS 83 -- SORRY, 82, 83 AND 84. >> RIGHT, 28, THE 213 IS THE BALANCE OF -- >>JUDGE CANALES: OF THE MOBILIZATION. >> THE 20% THAT THE COUNTY NEEDED TO PAY AND THE SECOND TWO ARE FOR CHANGE ORDER NUMBER [01:35:02] 2. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ONLY HAD 28 AND 84. YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BUT WANTED CLARIFICATION ON MOBILIZATION. THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, DOES THAT CONCLUDE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THE LAST ONE 85, TAKER INDUSTRIAL RENTAL. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: PART OF THE LAST BILL, THE LAST WATER BILLS OR WHAT? >>JUDGE CANALES: DALE, THESE ARE BILLS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN PAID. >> THEY HAVE NOT BEEN PAID, NO. >>JUDGE CANALES: THEY WERE INCURRED IN FEBRUARY? >> YES. THESE ARE THE -- THE GENERATOR THAT'S WE ADDED DURING WINTER STORM EVENT AND THE PURCHASE OF WATER AT THE TIME AND DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT OCCURRED AND TIGER INDUSTRIES WAS THE ONE AND DELAYED BY -- IT JUST DIDN'T GET CYCLED THROUGH THE RIGHT CHANNELS AND WHY WE ARE SUBMITTING IT NOW AS A WINTER STORM EVENT. THIS WILL ALSO BE AADDITIONAL COST TO BE INCUR AND MEET REQUIREMENTS FOR REIMBURSEMENT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THE ONLY THING I HAVE WITH THAT IS THAT WE -- WHY ARE WE GOING -- WHY ARE WE NOT GOING LOCAL AND MAKING IT CHEAPER. WADE $7500 FOR CHARGES FROM MISSISSIPPI DELIVERED. I MEAN, I THINK LOCAL, WE HAVE -- WE HAD COMPANIES LOCAL WHO CAN DO GENERATORS. COMPANIES LOCAL THAT CAN DO WATER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS WITH. AND JUST -- >> YOU WILL HAVE TO ASK WHO YOU ARE REQUESTING THE -- INFORMATION AND I AM ONLY LOOKING AT THE BALANCE TO BE PAID. I DON'T HAVE CONTROL WHERE THEY GET THE INFORMATION FROM. >>JUDGE CANALES: YEAH -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE -- I THINK WE NEED TO TRY TO BE MORE CONSCIOUS HOW WE SPEND SOME OF THIS MONEY. AND, YOU KNOW, WELL SPENT PROBABLY, BUT MORE COGNIZANT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT YOU INFORMATION BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE WATER FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE WATER DURING A WINTER STORM. AND I MEAN, IF -- IF YOU MIGHT RECALL, -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: MISSISSIPPI IT IS A LONG WAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT WAS, BECAUSE IF YOU MIGHT REMEMBER FROM FEBRUARY, THAT THE ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS WAS OUT OF WA WATER. AND THE OTHER THING TO REMEMBER, IS THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY MEMORY SAID THEY COULD NOT HELP US. AND WE NEEDED TO GET RESOURCES FROM ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE. AND I PROMISE YOU, WE USED EVERY SINGLE LOCAL RESOURCE THAT WE COULD FIND. SOMEWHERE THERE SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF THANKFULNESS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FIND WATER. THAT IS WHAT THE LAST THING IS ABOUT. GETTING WATER TO PEOPLE WHEN THERE WAS NO WATER AND WHICH WERE PAYING THEM FOR PROVIDING THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BECAUSE YOU ARE SPEAKING OVER ME. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I AM NOT BLAMING YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE. EVERYTHING WAS DONE. I THINK IT IS GOOD. >>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT. I AGREE. USE LOCAL. BUT WHEN LOCAL IS NOT HERE, GO FIND WHAT THE PEOPLE NEED. THAT WAS DONE HERE. AND I PERSONALLY AM EMBARRASSED THEY HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL FEBRUARY UNTIL THE LAST PART OF OCTOBER TO GET PAID, BUT AN ANYWAY, WE ARE GETTING THEM PAID. >> EXCUSE ME, JUDGE, DID WE GO THROUGH COMMISSIONERS COURT WITH THIS? OR ONE OF THESE EMERGENCY THINGS? >>JUDGE CANALES: ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE EMERGENCIES TAKE OVER. AND WHEN PEOPLE NEED WATER -- WHEN NOBODY WAS WORKING HERE AT THE COURT HOUSE AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WAS PROVIDING FOR ITS CITIZENS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT YOUR PRECINCT DID RECEIVE WATER AS DID ALL THE OTHER. WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE WATER WATER WHEN WATER WAS NEEDED WHEN NO WATER ANY HOME INFORM NUECES COUNTY. >> I NEVER SUFFERED THROUGH WATER SHORTAGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU ARE ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES. MOST PEOPLE DID NOT HAVE WATER. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I ALSO SAW SOMETHING ABOUT GENERATORS. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, WE NEEDED GENERATORS. IT WAS VERY COLD. VERY, VERY COLD AND WE DID NOT HAVE ELECTRICITY. AGAIN IT WAS WINTER STORM. IT WAS A COMPLETE FREEZE OF THE ENTIRE SYSTEM. I AM SURE YOU REMEMBER THE WINTER STORM. THE GENERATORS THERE WERE TO PROVIDE FOR POWER. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I NEVER SUFFERED -- >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU WERE JUST SO LUCKY HEARN HERNANDEZ I GUESS TO SO. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CAN I SPEAK A LITTLE -- >> ADD A LITTLE COLOR TO THE GENERATOR. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: LET HIM FINISH WHAT HE IS SAYING. >> I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. >> LET HIM FINISH WHAT HE IS SAYING. >>JUDGE CANALES: I KNOW YOU WERE ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES, COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. WHAT WERE YOU GOING TO SAY OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT LUCKY [01:40:03] AND DIDN'T HAVE WATER AND ELECTRICITY? >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT WERE YOU GOING TO SAY. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I DON'T RECALL BRINGING THIS UP EARLIER WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT $268,000 WATER THAT HAD TO GO TO THE HOSPITALS. >>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT. IT WAS BROUGHT UP EVERY SINGLE COVID EMERGENCY/HURRICANE HANNA REPORT. WE REPORT ON -- THE REASON WE HAVE THAT ITEM IN GENERAL INFORMATION IS WE DISCUSS THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DISASTERS OF WHICH WINTER STORM WAS PROBABLY ON NO LESS THAN 20 TIMES ON COURT. IT WAS BROUGHT UP. , AND I KNOW THAT -- I KNOW THAT IT WAS -- IT WAS PROPERLY DISCUSSED. AGAIN, DURING EMERGENCY TIMES, EMERGENCIES -- EMERGENCY ACTIONS ARE TAKING PLACE, AND THEY DON'T COME TO COURT BECAUSE IT IS AN EMERGENCY. MEANS PEOPLE'S LIFE, LIMB OR PROPERTY ARE IN DANGER AND MAKE DECISIONS AS A TEAM IN ORDER TO MAKE CERTAIN -- IN THIS CASE IT WAS THE FUNDSMENTAL NECESSITY OF WATER. AND POWER. >> IS THIS THE WATER FOR THE HOSPITALS? >>JUDGE CANALES: THIS IS FOR PEOPLE. IT SAYS IT HERE. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: HOW LONG DO WE USE THE GENERATOR AS SOON AS. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL SHIELD TO MICHAEL ON THAT. AND WHAT WE USE THESE GENERATORS FOR IS STANDBY. GO AHEAD. >> I BELIEVE THE GENERATORS ON THE TIGER RENTALS WERE BROUGHT OUT TO THE FAIRGROUNDS FOR THE WARMING STATION FOR THE CITIZENS IN THAT AREA WHO DIDN'T HAVE HEAT IN THEIR HO HOMES. AND THIS WAS THE INTENT WHEN EDWARD REQUESTED THAT GENERATOR BE DELIVERED UNDER THAT EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCE WHEN THE FREEZE WAS LASTING MORE THAN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF DAYS. THAT THING HAD TO BE TRUCKED OUT HERE AND INSTALLED AND SET UP. I DON'T RECALL THE EXACT NUMBER OF DAYS. I AM SURE IT WAS IN -- IN ACCORDANCE WITH THEIR MINIMUM NUMBER OF DAY THAT'S THEY HAVE TO CHARGE. IF WE HAVE TO -- I BELIEVE THAT IS LONGER THAN THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF FREEZING DAY THAT'S WE HAD. BUT THAT IS WHAT -- WHAT THE RATIONALE IS TO HAVE THE GENERATOR BROUGHT. >>JUDGE CANALES: AGAIN, GOOD -- GOOD QUESTIONS TO ASK. GOOD OPPORTUNITIES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENS INSIDE WINTER STORMS AND HURRICANES AND OTHER EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS, BUT PREPAREDNESS IS THE NAME OF THE GAME. OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE SAFE AND HAVE EITHER WARMTH IF IT IS COLD OR AIR IF IT IS HOT. AND, OF COURSE, WATER TO DRINK. THERE WAS MANY, MANY DAY WHERE IS THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI WAS NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE WATER. WONDERFUL THAT YOU WERE NOT AFFECTED, BUT MOST PEOPLE WERE. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING SOME OF THESE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: DALE, YOU ARE AVAILABLE BEFORE MEETINGS, AREN'T YOU, TO HELP ANSWER ANY OF THE QUESTIONS REGARDING SPECIAL MOTION AS SOON AS YOU ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF THESE IN ADVANCE? >> YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALSO FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT WATCHING AT HOME, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE THIS, BUT WHEN WE HAVE SPECIAL MOTIONS, THE VENDOR NAME IS GIVEN, THE PROPER NAME AND PURPOSE IS GIVEN WITH A COMPLETE DESCRIPTION AS THE ONE FOR 85. OF PALETTES OF WATER THAT WERE DISTRIBUTED TO COMMUNITIES DUE TO WATER BOIL FROM FROZEN, A PRODUCT CODE, A INVOICE NUMBER SO THE COMMISSIONER AND ANYBODY CAN REFER TO THAT AND AN AMOUNT IS GIVEN, THAT'S CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. AND ALSO THE -- ALL THE INVOICES IN THE STRING DOCUMENTATION IS BEHIND THE REQUEST. >>JUDGE CANALES: IN OUR NOTEBOOKS. ALL RIGHT, JUST MAKING CERTAIN. NOW THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH 11-16, 55-61. IS THERE A MOTION NOW TO AUTHORIZE THE PAYMENT OF THESE BILLS UNDER ITEM NUMBER C? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHT, I WILL SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR BY SIGNIFY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. OKAY. YOU WANT TO REVISIT B. WE WILL HAVE TO -- [E. Approve the following tax resale offers: Lots 42, 43, and 44, Block 3, Flores Addition to Robstown (615 W Avenue D), in the amount of $19,500.00 Lots 13 and 14, Block 2, Compress Addition to Robstown (524 Marie St.), in the amount of $1,000.00 A strip of land, 60 feet by 118 feet, between Park 'J' and Park 'K', A.L. Hailey Subdivision of Robstown (498 N Upshaw Blvd.), in the amound of $1,800.00 33 Boat Slips in Harbor Del Sol Marina, Corpus Christi (1402 Ocean Dr. E), in the amount of $134,853.24 (Slip Nos. 1, 2, 7, 8, 15, 20, 21, 22, 28, 29, 30, 31, and 38 in Pier 1; Slip Nos. 47, 48, 49, 53, 54, 55, 56, 58, 60, 62, 63, 64, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, and 72 in Pier 2; and Slip Nos. 74 and 75 in Pier 3)] >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THAT'S ALL RIGHT, JUDGE, GO AHEAD. >>JUDGE CANALES: E, APPROVING THE TAX -- COMMISSIONER CHE CHESNEY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DO THIS EVERY TIME AND MAKING SURE NO TITLE WORK IN THIS ONE, RIGHT? >>JUDGE CANALES: CAN YOU HELP ANSWER THAT? >> NO TITLE WORK IN THAT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I HAVEN'T ASKED THIS IN A WHILE AND I ALWAYS WANT TO DOUBLE [01:45:03] CHECK. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> AS IS, WHERES, AND ONE OF THE THINGS BE THE UNIFORM THEY SIGN -- >>JUDGE CANALES: WE LIKE THOSE -- >> THAT THE COUNTY WILL NOT SUPPLY ANY OF THE FOLLOWING, AND THAT IS TITLE POLICY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I HAVEN'T DONE IT IN A WHILE. >>JUDGE CANALES: A GOOD CHECK QUHES CHEST MARVIN, IF ANYTHING CHANGES -- KHEPS CHEST MARVIN, IF ANYTHING CHANGES IF YOU WILL ASK ME IN ADVANCE >>JUDGE CANALES: TAKE A AS A MOTION. MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY [F. Accept for record purposes, the executed lease agreements for FY 2021-2022 at the Nueces County Airport: Hangar T-4 - Jerry Hunsaker Hangar T-5 - Robert Whitock Hangar T-6 - Jerry Lunceford Hangar T-7 - Mark Harrison Hangar T-8 - Andrew Kirkpatrick Hangar T-9 - Wayne Hunter Hangar T-13 - Mark Rock Hangar T-14 - James Bliss Hangar T-15 - Thomas Perrigue Hangar T-18 - Tim Bowen Hangar T-20 - John Reed] SAYING AYE. ALSO THE LEASE AGREEMENTS FOR THE NUECES COUNTY AIRPORT IS LOCATED ON ITEM F. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. I WILL REFER TO DALE ON THESE HANGERS AND -- HANGARS, MICHAEL WILL TOO. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ANY AMOUNTS OF WHICH ONE IS GOING FOR? >> THERE COX IS ON LINE. 180 AND THE OTHER PORTION IS 250. AND HAS TO DO WITH THE CONDITION OF THE HANGARS, BUT MR. COX IS ONLINE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: 180 TO 250. DO WE KNOW WHICH ONES ARE THE 250, FOR A CHANCE. >> I'M HERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: REMIND GOING THROUGH THEM, JOHN, 1-11 SAY 250 ALREADY 500. WHATEVER THE AMOUNT. >> ONE THROUGH SIX ARE 180. AND THE REST ARE 250. 7-11 ARE 250. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, SIR. I STILL HAVE A HANDFUL THAT HAS BEEN A STRUGGLE WITH COVID, BUT I WILL GET THEM ALL SIGNED UP. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTION FOR MR. COX? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM GOOD. >>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY [N. Authorize the submission of a grant application to the Firehouse Subs Public Safety Foundation for equipment for the County’s Fire Marshal.] SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. LET'S GO TO ITEM -- LETTER N AND MORE TO COMMISSIONER MAREZ. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: YES. THIS IS JUST A FOLLOW-UP. I KNOW THAT FIREHOUSE SUBS DO GREAT WORK IN SUPPORTING FIRST RESPONDERS. I WANTED CLARIFICATION. LAST TIME I THOUGHT WE PURCHASED THROUGH GENERAL FUND OR GRANT BUNKER EQUIPMENT FOR OUR FIRE MARSHAL. IS THAT PART OF THAT OR EXTRA EQUIPMENT? >> NO ARE, HE IS REQUESTING -- AT THE TIME WE SUBMITTED THE AGENDA ITEM WE WERE STILL KIND OF WORKING OUT THE BUDGET. THE BUDGET IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE $12,936. THE WAY THIS PARTICULAR GRANT -- AND OH, THAT IS FOR A THERMAL IMAGER, GAS SENSORS AND OTHER KIND OF CHARGING EQUIPMENT, THE CARTRIDGE FOR THE GAS SENSOR. THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN THE BUNKER EQUIPMENT. THE WAY THIS WORKS PROVIDES THE VENDOR, QUOTE, TWO FIREHOUSE SUBS. NO EXCHANGE IN MONEY AND BUY THE EQUIPMENT FOR US AND DONATE IT TO THE FIRE MARSHAL. >> COMMISSIONER, YOU ARE CORRECT, IT WAS OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. >> MOTION TO APPROVE, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AND SECOND. THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. [W. Authorize execution of agreement with Rolando Rios & Associates, PLLC for RFQ 3172-20 Legal Counsel to Assist with Redistricting Plan.] THEN I HAVE GOT ITEM W. AND I JUST PULLED THAT SO THAT WE COULD AT LEAST ADDRESS SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WAS ISSUED TODAY. I FIRST WANT TO TELL YOU IS WHAT THIS IS, THAT WE ISSUED AN RFQ FOR QUALIFIED LAW FIRMS TO REPRESENT NUECES COUNTY. WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND THE COURT SELECTED THE ROLANDO RIOS FIRM AND THE NEGOTIATION WILL GO TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH THAT FIRM. TODAY'S PROCESS IS SIMPLY APPROVING THEIR CONTRACT WITH THE SPECIFIED, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTUAL LANGUAGE AND THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. AND THEN ONCE THAT IS ACTUALLY CONSUMMATED, MY INTENTIONS ARE TO HAVE THEM COME AND PRESENT IN COURT SO THEY CAN GO AND HEAR FROM PUBLIC COMMENT AGAIN OR WE COULD CERTAINLY GIVE THEM YOUR NAMES AND NUMBER -- I AM SURE -- VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS. NOT A SURPRISE THAT YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED AND INTRIGUED. BUT TODAY -- WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT -- EXCEPT FOR POSITIVE ONE THAT'S CAME TO COURT ON THE PRESENTATION EARLIER ON AND THAT WAS EXHIBITED IN THEIR FOLDERS. WHICH THEY PRESENTED. WE INTEND TO HAVE AN OPEN, TRANSPARENT, PUBLIC PROCESS. THAT IS THE WILL. WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT HAS NOT BEEN THE WAY THAT IT HAS BEEN [01:50:03] DONE, BUT WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN, BUT I THINK THE FIRST THING IS JUST TO RECOGNIZE, THEY DIDN'T EVEN REPRESENT US RIGHT NOW. THERE IS NO -- THE PLAN WILL BE FORTHCOMING, BUT WE CERTAINLY HAVE INKLINGS BASED TO THEIR GOOD WORK ALL OVER THE STATE OF TEXAS OF ISDS. THEY HAVE DONE TWO DOZEN VOTING RIGHTS CASES AND I THINK THAT NUECES COUNTY WILL BE PLEASE WITH THEIR CRITERIA THEY WILL PUT FORWARD AND WHAT WE HAVE HEARD IS REASSURE COMMISSIONERS THAT THEY WILL HAVE AN INPUT. WHEN YOU HEAR THEM SAY, HEY, WE WILL GO VISIT WITH ALL OF YOU. BECAUSE IN THE PAST, THAT WAS NOT DONE. SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO TAKE THAT -- AT LEAST I DIDN'T TAKE THAT AS THE ONLY THING I WAS GOING TO DO. BUT WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM. AND I AM GOING TO REALLY ENCOURAGE THEM TO GIVE A TON OF INCHES ABOUT HOW WE CAN -- YOU KNOW, DO THE BEST JOB POSSIBLE IN INVOLVING PUBLIC AND WE DO THAT THROUGH THE FORMS YOU ARE USED TO, PUBLIC HEARING AND PUBLIC CALLING AND SO MUCH THAT HAPPENS, HAPPENS AFTER THEY GET HIRED. AND TODAY IS THE DAY TO SAY LET'S HIRE THEM. AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THEM. AND THAT IS REALLY WHAT I WANTED TO SAY. AND JENNY CAN ADD TO THAT IF I AM WRONG ABOUT THAT PROCESS, BUT IT STARTS WITH THE GET HIRED. GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER -- COMMISSIONER MAREZ. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I WAS JUST TO SAY THE SAME. WE DO HAVE A SHORT WINDOW. SOME COUNTIES ARE A LITTLE AHEAD OF US. SOME ARE AT THE SOME POINT AND FURTHER BEHIND US. THE STATE IS TAKING TIME TO WORK THROUGH THOSE CONFERENCES AND SPECULATING. I THINK IT WILL BE REALLY HARD TO GET THE -- THE PRIMARY DATES THAT WE ARE USED TO, THAT WE ARE ACCUSTOMED TOO, A FEW YEARS AGO THEY HAD GOTTEN PUSHED BACK AND MAY HOP BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE LAWSUITS ON THE CONGRESSIONAL OR STATE DISTRICT LEVELS. SO I THINK WE WILL GET A LITTLE MORE TIME THAN NEEDED. I DO AGREE. I THINK THAT THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD THE FIRM WANTS TO MEET WITH ALL OF US TO HEAR WHAT IS YOUR TAKE. AND I THINK WE ALL WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO SAY I BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT OUR PRECINCT NEEDS. AND OUR CONCERNS. WE ALL SHARED THEM. IF YOU PAY ATTENTION IN COURT, YOU HEAR OUR CONCERNS OVER HOW THE MAPS WERE DRAWN PRIOR. BUT I DO WANT TO SEE PUBLIC INPUT. I DO WANT TO SEE -- IT IS GOING TO BE DURING A MEETING FOR PUBLIC INPUT. BUT IF THERE IS ANY WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, ASIDE FROM US, I M MEAN, I AM WILLING TO HOST ANYTHING FROM MY PRECINCT TO HEAR WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE THERE AND COME AROUND AND SHARE THEM BUT ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN HAVE WITH ANY KIND OF PUBLIC MEETING THAT WAS SUGGESTED THAT IT WAS HELD SEPARATE. WE CAN BE THERE IN ATTENDANCE AND WATCH FROM AFAR AND LET THE PROCESS PLAY OUT AND HAVE IT BROUGHT IN AND BROUGHT IN TO THE DISCUSSION. I THINK WE ALL KNOW OUR PRECINCTS VERY WELL, AND WE WANT TO SEE AS MANY PEOPLE. AND SOMETHING THROUGH OUR ONLINE. GREAT FEEDBACK FOR THE PEER DESIGN AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO HERE AS WELL. I DON'T THINK THIS IS ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. AND I THINK WE ARE LOOKING TO IMPROVE. AND I THINK TO ME THAT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE AS MUCH PUBLIC INPUT AS POSSIBLE DURING COURT BUT ALSO ONLINE AND AT LEAST ONE FREE STANDING MEETING WHERE WE CAN HAVE SOME SORT OF PUBLIC INPUT AT A DATE AND TIME THAT -- MAYBE AFTER WORK HOURS. SO THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMUNITY CAN PARTICIPATE AND GIVE -- GIVE THEIR THOUGHTS OF HOW THE LINES SHOULD LOOK. I LOVE POLITICS. I LOVE NUMBERS. THIS IS -- THIS WILL BE MY SECOND OR THIRD MAP WORKING ON, BEING IN ELECTED OFFICE. I DON'T SEE MUCH CHANGING, BUT THERE IS A OBVIOUS SHIFT IN PRECINCT 4 THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF GROWTH. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: CHECK, CHECK -- >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I THINK -- I THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT -- IT WILL SHOW A LOT OF GROWTH OUT TO THE EAST FROM MY PRECINCT, COMMISSIONER GON GONZALEZ'S PRECINCT AND EVEN PRECINCT 1. WE NEED TO SHIFT TO DISTRIBUTE THOSE NUMBERS AND GROWTH EV EVENLY. SO, YES, WE ARE PRESSED FOR TIME. I DID HEAR THAT WERE FLORIDA [01:55:01] GARZA FROM THIS FIRM. I WILL JUST SAY THAT WE GOT TO MAKE THE MOST OF IT IN THE TIME THAT WE HAVE. BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO WORK VERY HARD. THEIR CEILING IS PRETTY GOOD CEILING, CONSIDERING HOW MUCH THEY CAN MAKE IN THIS -- I THINK THEY CAN WORK A LITTLE HARD OR WORK EXTRA HOURS AND WORK ON WEEKENDS IF THAT MEANS THAT THE PUBLIC GETS A CHANCE TO SHARE THEIR INPUT. THIS IS MY EXPECTATION AND TO APPROVE THIS AND GO TO THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE AS MANY OPEN DIALOGUES AS POSSIBLE ON THIS. THANK YOU, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: COUPLE OF THINGS, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU ARE RIGHT, COMMISSIONER. WE NEED TO WORK. PRECINCT 1 IS ONE THAT WE REALLY NEED TO WORK ON. BUT YOU KNOW IT IS WORKING TOGETHER. TRYING TO BRING SOMETHING TO THE MEDIA WHERE THE POPULATION -- TWO THINGS TRYING NOT TO DO, VOTER SUPPRESSION AND TRYING NOT TO HAPPEN AND THE WHOLE THING AND MAKE SURE THAT POPULATION IS EQUALLY DIVIDED INTO ALL THE PRECINCTS. BUT LAST YEAR, TEN YEARS AGO, I WAS HERE. AND, YOU THEY, IT WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT THE -- EVERY COMMISSIONER MET WITH THE -- WITH THE COMMITTEE THAT WAS IN ON THE REDISTRICTING, YOU KNOW, THAT DID HAPPEN, YOU KNOW. AND I THINK WE HAD ONE PUBLIC -- ONE PUBLIC HEARING ONLY. BUT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE -- AS FAR AS ANYTHING HAPPENING LAST YEAR AND EVERY COMMISSION HER A CHANCE TO MEET WITH THE -- WITH A GROUP. I THINK IT WAS AN EXCELLENT GROUP. AND SO WE GAVE -- WE GAVE OUR -- OUR FEELINGS AND THAWTSD TO -- TO THAT -- TO THAT COMMITTEE WHETHER IT MADE A DIFFERENCE OR NOT ORE SOMETHING ELSE, BUT I THINK THIS YEAR IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS LIKE -- WHERE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE. AND I THINK WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH -- WITH GARZA AND THEY BRING A LOT TO THE TABLE AND I THINK THEY ARE REALLY -- YOU KNOW, TO START RUNNING WITH IT THEIR -- AND IT WOULD BE A GOOD ASSET TO THE COUNTY THIS YEAR. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO AHEAD AND PROCEED TO HIRE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I HAVE SOME DISCUSSION TOO. BUT I THINK ALREADY A MOTION MADE OR SECONDED. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK ACTUALLY YOU MADE IT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THANK YOU. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I HAVE DISCUSSION. LET ME JUST SAY THAT I REACHED OUT TO TIM WHEN HE SENT US STUFF THE FIRST TIME. I LIKE THIS IDEA. I WANT TO GO STRAIGHT OUT THERE AND SAY IT. I THINK IT IS A REALLY POSITIVE THING. I DID NOT KNOW -- AND I HAVE QUESTIONS ON -- SINCE IT IS RELATED TO THIS, I DIDN'T KNOW ABLE TO DO IT FOR '22 AND '24. YOU ARE RIGHT. WE ARE TIGHT FOR '22. BUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS -- I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH THAT. TIM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER AND I HAVE NEVER BEEN THROUGH REDISTRICTING AND FUN AND EXCITING. >> A FULL DISCLOSURE. I AM NOT AN ELECTION ATTORNEY, BUT I LEARNED A LOT I DIDN'T KNOW OVER THE LAST NINE MONTHS. I TESTIFIED FOUR TIMES IN THE LEGISLATURE. ONE.PERSON. I HAD TO LEARN A LOT. I HAVE SEEN NO ONE THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO REDISTRICT AND DO IT FOUR TEN YEARS. IT IS TYPICAL TO DO IT TEN YEARS, BUT YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT IS A PROCESS WHERE WE HAVE TO SELECT THE PEOPLE AND DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME. AND HAVE THE PRIMARIES COMING UP. YOU CAN SAY WE WILL DO A SHORTER ABBREVIATED PROCESS AS TRANSPARENT -- DELIGHTED TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS, JUDGE CANALES AND MR. MAREZ. AND I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE THE RIGHT SPIRITS IN MIND AND YOUR HAERINGTS ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE. BUT IF YOU SAY -- AND CONVINCE THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT WE OUGHT TO HAVE A COMMISSION THAT I THINK HOPE HAPPENS. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME FOR '22. IF YOU TLEECH CONCLUSION, I THINK THAT WILL BE A REASONABLE CONCLUSION. YOU CAN SAY WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT UNTIL 2031. WE CAN DO IT FOR 2022. WE WILL APPOINT THAT MISSION AND WILL DRAW THE LINES FOR 2024 UNTIL WE GET ANOTHER CENSUS FOR 2031. I SEEN NOTHING THAT SAYS WHEN YOU PASS YOUR LINES THAT, HEY, IT HAS GOT TO BE THAT WAY FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT IS INTERESTING. I WILL ASK THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I LIKE THE IDEA OF A COMMISSION. WE ARE IN OCTOBER, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW FAST ALL OF THIS HAS TO BE IN. SO I THINK -- WE CAN'T DO IT TODAY BECAUSE WOMAN ON THE AGENDA, BUT HAPPY TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR ANOTHER TIME TO DISCUSS FORMING THIS COMM COMMISSION. I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA. A BIPARTISAN GROUP THAT YOU -- INDEPENDENTS, DEMOCRATS, [02:00:03] REPUBLICANS, GREEN PARTY, WHOEVER WANTS TO BE ON. I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE EVERYBODY OUT. LIBERTARIANS OR WHOEVER WANTS TO BE ON IT. A MAJORITY AND MINORITY REPORT AND I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT TO DO AND HAPPY TO PUT THAT ON TO DISCUSS AND COMMIT PUTTING TOGETHER. I AM MEETING WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY THIS WEEK AND I WILL ASK THE QUESTION ON THE '22 AND THE '24. AND I WILL TRY PUT BACK ON THE AGENDA AS SOON AS WE CAN TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON COMMISSION. AND SORRY WE NEVER CONNECTED. I REACHED OUT AND WE NEVER ATTENDED AND I LIKE THE IDEA WHEN YOU BROUGHT IT BEFORE, AND I WILL PUT IT BACK ON FOR DISCUSSION TO SEE WHAT WE CAN TO DO. I NEVER HEARD OF NOT DOING IT FOR TEN YEARS. >>JUDGE CANALES: I NEVER HEARD OF THAT EITHER AND WE NEED TO HAVE REAL CAUTION AS WE MAKE THOSE COMMENTS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUST ASKING THE QUESTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: I KNOW WHY YOU ARE SEIZING ON IT. AND IT IS VERY INTRIGUING, BUT WE NEED TO GET -- AS THEY SAY, LET'S GET THE ELECTION LAWYER EXPERTS. IF YOU WANT TO INVITE LAWSUITS, THAT IS A HELL OF A WAY TO DO IT. LET'S GET TO THE POINT TO HIRING SOMEBODY WHO IS AN EXPERT AND HAVE ALL THOSE GOOD DISCUSSIONS. HEY, I DON'T BLAME YOU ONE SECOND, AND I CAN'T SIT HERE AND RECON SCIENCE THAT WE ARE -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK IT IS A GOOD QUESTION THAT MR. DOWLING BROUGHT FORWARD AND I SAID SKILL THE QUESTION IF WE CAN EVEN DO IT OR NOT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I GOTCHA. >> LET ME ADD ONE THING THAT YOU MIGHT FIND HELPFUL. I DIDN'T KNOW EL PASO HAD A REDISTRICT COMMISSION UNTIL NURSE WHEN I WAS LISTENING TO THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE ONLINE AND A COMMISSIONER NAMED DAVID STOUT FROM EL PASO AND TELLING THEM HOW HE DID IT. THE NEXT DAY I CALLED HIS OFFICE AND WASN'T ABLE TO GET HIM BUT A GENTLEMAN LOUIS NEGRON AND PUT A MEMORANDUM FOR A CALL TO MR. NEGRON AND HE WAS EXTREMELY HELPFUL AND KNOWLEDGEABLE. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN GET MORE OF SOMEONE, CALL DAVID STOUT'S OFFICE AND TALK TO HIM OR MR. NEGRON. AND I AGREE WITH YOU ENTIRELY, JUDGE. YOU HAVE TO DO IT FOR TEN YEARS. .>JUDGE C .>JUDGE C .>JUDGE C >>JUDGE CANALES: THESE ARE THE THINGS. LIKE THE LOCH NESS COMING UP. IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO DO GREAT THINGS FOR EQUITY AND THE POTENTIAL TO TURN EVERYBODY IN THE MOST HORRIBLE MOOD, OKAY. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LEARNED EARLY ON IS THIS THAT'S WHY YOU GO AND FIND SOMEBODY WHO HAS TREMENDOUS INTEGRITY. AND WE ARE ABOUT TO HAVE THIS VOTE THAT I SIGH WILL BE GOOD. AND I WANTED TO CONFIRM WITH YOU ALL WHO HAVE INTEGRITY. THAT IS WHAT THE LEAGUE REPRESENTS TO ME. I KNOW YOU ARE NOT WITH THE LEAGUE. >> NOT THE PRESIDENT BUT -- >>JUDGE CANALES: I WANT TO REASSURE THAT IT FEELS GOOD TO ME TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY, YEAH, WE WANT TO BE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT. WE WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE PUBLIC FORUMS AND MOST PEOPLE AVAIL THEY BELIEVE SELVES OF THOSE THINGS AND WE KNOW YOU WILL. I WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT. I HAVEN'T SPOKE HEAD-ON JOSE SINCE HE CAME TO MAKE THAT. THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OF COVID TALKING AND ME CREATING THAT SEPARATION SO THE ATTORNEY CAN DO HER JOB NEGOTIATING ON BEHALF THE COUNTY. NOW WE ARE HERE AND IF WE VOTE FOR THE AFFIRMATIVE, HE WILL GET A CALL FOR ME THIS AFTERNOON AND BOOM, WE START MOVING FORWARD. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. THAT'S GREAT. HE IS ALREADY MAKING PHONE CALLS TO SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO MEET. AND YOU WILL BE ON THE LIST T TOO. AND WE WILL TAKE YOU INDIVIDUALLY BECAUSE YOU ARE REALLY WITH AN ORGANIZATION, AND AN INDIVIDUAL. THAT HAS GOT TO BE THE GOAL. RESTORE THE FAITH. RESTORE THE CONFIDENCE THAT WE HAVE IN THE REDISTRICTING. I WANT TO GO THROUGH IT ANOTHER MULTIPLE TIMES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, DESPITE YOURS -- YOURS THOUGHTS ON WHATEVER I AM SEIZING ON. I NEVER HEARD THIS BEFORE. ALL I WAS SAYING IS THAT I LIKE ALL THE IDEAS THAT YOU PRESENTED. MR. GELLING IS NOT ALWAYS ON THE SAME POLITICAL SIDE OF THE AISLE AND NOT A POLITICAL DISCUSSION, QUITE HONESTLY. HE DOESN'T -- I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT HE IS JUST MAKING -- >>JUDGE CANALES: NO, I KNOW. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T WANT TO SEIZE ON ANY ANYTHING. THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO GO THROUGH THIS MORE THAN ONCE. IT IS NOT GOING TO BE A FUN PROCESS -- IT MIGHT NOT BE THAT BAD. BUT AGAIN, I WILL PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION THE COMMISSION AND I THINK IT IS A GOOD CONCEPT AND OPEN AND TRANSPARENT AND IF WE HAVE TIME TO DO IT, WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT BECAUSE I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT. [02:05:02] I SAW A COOL STORY ON SPECTRUM NEWS THAT THEY ARE DOING THIS IN AUSTIN AND THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW MUCH IT HELPED -- ESPECIALLY WITH THE MINORITY REPRESENTATION AND HAVING THE OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS. I THINK IT CAN HELP A LOT. AT THE END OF THE KAY THIS COURT IS CHARGED WITH MAKING THE DECISIONS. BUT THE MORE INFORMING WE HAVE FROM THE PUBLIC ON THE DECISION I THINK IS A POSITIVE. SO I WILL PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA AND SEE WHERE WE CAN GET WITH THIS. >> GOOD DEAL. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCERN. WE APPRECIATE IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: ABSOLUTELY. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE HAD GOOD DISCUSSION. JENNY, THIS CONTRACT IS READY? >> YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. EXCLUSION AND AGREEMENT. ALL RIGHT, THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA. AND WELL I DIDN'T REALLY PROMISE TOO MUCH, IAN, YOU WERE ALREADY NUMBER ONE ON LIST AND I THOUGHT WE WOULD GO QUICKER THROUGH CONSENT. MY APOLOGIZES, BUT GOOD TO SEE -- GOOD TO SEE YOU AND YOU WILL [1. Receive semi-annual update on activities of the Corpus Christi Regional Economic Development Corporation.] GIVE US A DASH REGIONAL -- SORRY, A UPDATE ON OUR REGION ALECK GNOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS IAN VAZI WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. I AM JOINED BY OUR CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER MIKE CULBERTSON. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I KNOW -- I JUST SAW IT. THERE IT IS. >> I HAVE TO SHARE MY SCREEN. >> AH, RIGHT. FIRST OF ALL, THIS -- OUR SEMI ANNUAL UPDATE TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE ECONOMY AND HOW THINGS PROGRESSING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. YOU WILL SEE THE SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU. WE REALLY GET THAT PRECOVID, POST COVID NUMBERS WITH EMPLOYMENT. PRECOVID AT 91,500 AND 84,100 AT THE END OF AUGUST DOWN 10,000 JOBS AND DOWN WERE PRECOVID NUMBERS AND MUCH WO WORSE. WE HAD LOST $20,000 JOBS. OUR UNEMPLOYMENT RATE RAN AT 15.8% PRECOVID 5% AND SITTING AT 8.6%. IT IS NOT GOOD. IT NEEDS TO BE BETTER BUT IT IS POINTED IN THE RITE RIGHT DIRECTION AND YOU WILL SEE THAT FROM THE NEXT SLIDE. A COUPLE OF SECTORS THE ECONOMY HIT HARD BY A NUMBER OF FLUCTUATIONS IN ENERGY PRICING AND YOU WILL SEE THAT IN OUR MINING, LOGGING AND C CON.STRUPTION WHICH IS NEGATIVE 4400 PRECOVID AND HOSPITALITY SECT THEIR GOT HIT HARD REALLY FAST AND STARTING TO COME BACK, AND OUR FRIEND AT VISIT CORPUS CHRISTI SHOW THAT THE WEEKENDS IN HOTEL ARE STILL VERY STRONG, BUT THE BIG TRAVEL THAT IS DOWN DURING THE WEEK. YOU WILL SEE THAT. AGAIN, THERE ARE SECTORS THAT ARE RECOVERING REALLY NICELY AND A COUPLE OUT THERE THAT NEED TO CATCH UP. THE NEXT SLIDE. THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE. YOU SEEK THAT SPIKE. OFF THE SLIDE MAY 2020, 15.8% AND TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION GOING DOWN AND AGAIN WE WORK CLOSELY WITH WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE SEEING THAT THERE ARE 8,000 JOB BEING ADVERTISED IN THIS MSA AND EMPLOYMENT RATE IS HIGHER THAN IT SHOULD BE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE ALWAYS VERY COGNIZANT AND RETENTION VISITS AND TALKING WITH COMPANIES AND EMPLOYERS IS THAT TALENT IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES. THE THING THAT KEEPS PEOPLE AWAKE AT NIGHT, BUSINESS OW OWNERS. HOW DO WE GET NOT JUST ANYBODY TO FILL A JOB. HOW DO WE GET TALENTED, QUALIFIED, EDUCATED FOLKS TO PARTICIPATE AND GO BACK INTO WORK. JUDGE, NEXT SLIDE -- SLIDE PLEASE. THANK YOU. SOME THINGS THAT YOU WILL SEE -- I KNOW IF YOU TALK ABOUT THE GROWTH IN THE -- THAT HAS BEEN COMING INTO -- NOT JUST THE COUNTY BUT THE ENTIRE REGION, AND WHAT YOU WILL SEE, THIS TIME LAST YEAR 900 SOMETHING HOUSES BUILT. THIS YEAR 1300 -- THAT IS ON A DIFFERENT SLIDE, BUT WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS MONTHS OF INVENTORY OF MOMENT. 1.9 MONTHS OF INVENTORY, THAT IS A VERY, VERY TIGHT HOUSING MARKET. THE MEDIAN HOME PRICE AT THE END OF AUGUST WAS $265,000 AND WE HAVE BOTH AN AVAILABLE ISSUE AND AFFORDABLE INDEX ISSUE. NOT SEEING ENOUGH HOMES BEING [02:10:02] BUILT AND ENOUGH ENOUGH HOMES BEING BUILT AN AN AFFORDABLE RATE AND SEEING A LOT OF GR GROWTH, CAL-ALLEN, MIDWAY. MORE SUBDIVISIONS AND NOT SEEING ENOUGH OF THOSE. MY CONCERN WHEN I TALK WITH THIS THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND GETTING NEW DEVELOPERS INTO THIS MARKET, AS THERE ARE A COUPLE OF NATIONAL DEVELOPERS TAKING A LOOK AT THIS MARKET IS CAN A MOOD IAN FAMILY MAKING MEDIAN FAMILY ABOUTED 60,000, USE TRADITIONAL FINANCE MECHANISMS WHICH IS THREE TIMES INCOME AND COMMISSIONER ECONOMIES KNEE AND THAT BUSINESS WILL VERIFY. THREE TIMES INCOME MINUS DEBT. THE MEDIAN HOMES NEEDS TO BE THE $175,000 TODAY 190,000 RANGE AND SEEING IT 250. WE ARE FACING CHALLENGES BEING FACE AID CROSS THE CUFF BUT -- FACED ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BUT BEING HIT HERE ON A LOCAL LE LEVEL. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. NUECES COUNTY QUALIFIED SITES. WORKING WITH PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE WILLING AND ANALYSIS OF UTILITIES AND MR. LINEBECKER. WE GET AN RFP OR SITE SELECTION CONSULT TAN AND WORKING ON A COUPLE OF MORE WITH THESE THAT ARE LISTED HERE IN NUECES COUNTY. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OUR PROJECT PORTFOLIO, WORKING ON A PIPELINE OF DEALS. ADVANCED MANUFACTURING, CIR CIRCUITBOARD, SOFTWARE, PETROCHEMICAL PROJECTS WE WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR FRIENDS IN THE PORT, GREEN HYDROGEN, AMMONIA, NITROGEN. FOLKS MOVING INTO THE RENEWAL FUELS AND ENERGY SOURCES. A LOT OF EFFORTS IN THAT. AND I WILL BE HONEST AND AID ON FRIDAY WITH KENT BRIT TAN FROM THE PORT, THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. HOW MANY OF THESE COMPANIES KICKING TIRES AND LOOKING IN THE AREA. HOW MANY ARE REAL VERSUS SPECULATIVE OR VENTURE CAPITAL. WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT. WE HAVE TO KISS A LOT OF FROGS BEFORE WE GET TO OUR PRINCE. WE HAVE TO DO A LOT OF THAT. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE STEEL PROJECT WITH -- WITH STEEL PIPE AND COMPANIES THAT IN THAT SENSE. DISTRIBUTION PROJECTS. WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF WORK IN OUR DRONES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WORK WITH THE UNIVERSITY TO HELP DEVELOP THEIR PRESENCE IN THE DOWNTOWN PROJECT AND, JUDGE, YOU WERE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION AS PART OF OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS WHEN WE MADE THE RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE AHEAD FOUR MILLION AND TO BUILD A NEW DRONE SYSTEMS. CONTROL CENTER AND TECHNOLOGY CENTER. WHEN WE TALK OF DRONES, NOT THE KIDS PLAYING ON DRONES. MAJOR COMPANIES, ENERGY COMPANIES, LOOKING AT PIPELINE WORK, LOOKING AT FORTUNE 500 -- FORTUNE 10 COMPANIES THAT ARE LOOKING AT -- LOOKING AT DELIVERY SYSTEMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE HAVE TO BE VERY SELECTIVE AS WE DIVERSE TIE OUR ECONOMY, WE ARE WORK -- DIVERSIFY OUR ECONOMY. TOMMY KURTZ IS ON THE ROAD DOING TRADE SHOWS ALL THE TIME TRYING TO GET THESE COMPANIES IN THE DOOR AND PLASTIC REC RECYCLING PROJECT AND WE ARE STARTING TO SEE SOME OF THOSE. IF YOU WILL, THE NEXT SLIDE. OUR NEW PROJECTS, THREE NEW PROJECTS THAT ARE STARTING TO LOOK -- YOU KNOW I AM GOING TO TELL YOU A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOKING, BUT GETTING PEOPLE -- GETTING THESE PROJECTS TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE TYPES OF POST-COVID -- COVID AND POST-COVID, IT IS A CHALLENGING BUSINESS AND A LOT HARDER TO GET THE PROJECT. AND 21,000 JOBS AND $16 BILLION IN INVESTMENT AND A COUPLE MORE SITE VISITS THIS MONTH AND GET A COUPLE FOLKS SIGN UP IN THE REMAINS OF OCTOBER AND NOV NOVEMBER. WE ARE DOING BUSINESS RETENTION VISITS UNFORTUNATELY WE LOST CHRISTINE BRYANT, THE HEAD OF BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT. TOOK OVER OF THE CEO AT VISION GALVESTON AND WE HAVE A REPLACEMENT THAT -- MIKE, CAN I SAY THE NAME? OKAY. SO -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS ALL CLEAR. WE HAVE A NEW BUSINESS RETENTION DIRECTOR COMING IN BRITTANY SOTELA. SHE WAS THE BUSINESS RETENTION DIRECTOR IN ARLINGTON AND BEFORE THAT WAS THE BUSINESS RETENTION MANAGER IN ODESSA. SHE HAS BEEN AROUND AND A LOT OF COMMENCE IN HIGH ENERGY, AND SHE IS A VERY GOOD PROFESSIONAL IN HER FIELD. LET'S SEE, POTENTIAL JOBS 30. IN THE EXPANSIONS ANOTHER 20 [02:15:07] AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT WINS FERRAGON AND JM STEEL, AND SCHIIT AUTO, HIGH END FOR VIDEO GAMES. THALES A DRONE COMPANY. WE ONLY REPORT THE FIRST PHASE OF THAT WHICH IS THREE JOBS AND EXPECT FUTURE GROWTH AS THAT UNIVERSITY DRONE CENTER D DOWNTOWN AND THE CONTROL CENTER IS LIKE THE CONTROL CENTER PUTTING US PUT THE CAMEL'S NOSE UNDER THE TENT, FULL, OUR FRIENDS AT TEX-I SLE HAD 35 JOBS ADDS 670 MILLION THE NEXT LIED 50 BILLION REGIONAL INVESTMENT. WE WOULD BE 8TH AHEAD OF GEORGIA AND YOU SEE THE ACTIVITIES AND THE DOTS IF YOU WILL IN THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THANK YOU THE DOTS ARE ALL THE INVESTMENTS AND SELECTED MAJOR PROJECT WINS ON THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO IS MR. CULTBERTSON. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE DEALS HAVE SOME SORT OF EITHER TAX ABATEMENT, JOB CREATION, STATE TAX INCENTIVE, SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE TO REPORT TO THE STATE FOR JOB CREATION OR LOCALLY FOR INCENTIVES. MIKE GOES OUT AND AUDITS EVERY ONE OF THOSE COMPANIES AS REQUIRED BY THE CONTRACT AND MAKES SURE THAT NO COMPANY IS GETTING SOMETHING THEY AREN'T DESERVING US AND DOES AN AUDIT OF EVERY ONE OF THOSE COMPANIES AND VERIFIES. HE GETS IT DOWN TO THE -- HE SEES THE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS AND I DON'T OF THE EMPLOYEES HOW MUCH THEY ARE MAKING WHETHER HOME ADDRESSES ARE JUST TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE ARE CREATING JOBS IN THIS AREA, WE WILL BE CREATE AND DELIVERED UPON AND THE PROMISES BEING DELIVERED UPON. IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS WE ARE WORKING TO THAN ARE VERY IMPORTANT. ONE IS -- OBVIOUSLY WE UPDATED OUR TARGET INDUSTRY ANALYSIS WORKING ACROSS THE REGION. WE ARE LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE ONSHORING YOU WILL SEE OF THE SUPPLY CHAINS DISRUPTED AND PROBLEMS OF THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, GETTING CHRISTMAS PRESENTS DELIVERED IN THROUGH THE PORTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE ARE WORKING TO IDENTIFY OUR SUPPLY CHAINS FOR KEY INDUSTRIES TO GET THEIR SUPPLIERS AND CUSTOMERS CLOSE TO US. AND THEN WE DO -- WE ARE WORKING ON THINGS WITH PLACE MAKING. AND OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT. AND THEN WHEN OUR PEOPLE CAN CHOOSE WHEREVER THEY WANT TO LIVE, REMOTE WORK, THINGS LIKE THAT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS AREA IS A -- IS THE PLACE OF CHOICE FOR SOME OF THESE COMPANIES. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE IF WE COULD, PLEASE. YOU WILL SEE WITH DID A SURVEY OUR COASTAL BEND AND DID THINGS LIKE KEY RECOMMENDATIONS WHAT OUR ECONOMY WILL LOOK LIKE AND HOW DO HAVE A BETTER QUALITY OF PLACE WITH 2,000 ADDITIONAL DOWNTOWN UNITS. TENANT RECESSION PROGRAM FOR OFFICE BUILDINGS. HOW DO WE ACTIVATE SOME OF THE PARKS. IN THE MIXED USE. BRIGHT PROGRAMS. CREATION OF REINVESTMENT. REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND WHAT WILL IT LOOK LIKE WITH THE HARBOR GATEWAY THAT THE COUNTY IS LEADING WITH THE COURT MANY OTHER THINGS WE ARE WORKING ON AND CONTINUE TO WORK ON AND APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP WITH NUECES COUNTY AND THE OTHER COMMUNITY STAKE HOLDER THAT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>JUDGE CANALES: KEN TREVINO'S SUMMARY OF ECONOMIC TRENDS WAS VERY WORRISOME IN MY CONTINUE. AND I THINK IT GOES BACK TO EVERYONE SHOULD -- YOU DID A GREAT JOB IN A SHORT OF TIME AND DOWNLOAD THAT PRESENTATION AND STUDY IT AND MAYBE PROVIDE IT TO EVERYBODY HERE. >> WE CAN DO THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: UNLESS WE WORK ON THAT LAST PART, IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW GREAT THE TRADE SHOWS HOW GREAT TOMMY DOES OR HOW GREAT MIKE CAN WORK WITH THOSE COMPANIES. YOU DO ALL THIS WELL. THE PROBLEM IS WE ARE NOT SPENDING ENOUGH EMPHASIS ON THAT QUALITY OF PLACE WHICH IS WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO CHALLENGE US THIS YEAR TO DO IS SEE THE EDC TO WORK TO BRING HOME THOSE QUALITY OF PLACE ISSUES TO MARRY THEM WITH WHAT YOU ARE ALREADY DOING. [02:20:01] IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN TALK ALL DAY ABOUT NUMBERS, BUT THOSE NUMBERS AREN'T GOING TO CHANGE. WE FIND OURSELVES IN A GAP, DON'T WE. I MEAN, WE ARE -- OUR WAGES ARE TRAILING INFLATION. OUR NUMBERS OF UNEMPLOYMENT ARE TRAILING THE STATE OF TEXAS WHICH IS TRAILING THE NATION. AND HERE WE ARE KIND INFORM BOOM TOWN USA ON THE INDUSTRY SIDE. A VERY ODD SPACE. AND IT IS GOING TO WIND UP EVEN HURTING. AND YET ALL THIS GREAT OPPORTUNITY, RIGHT. KIND OF A QUANDRY. I KNOW IF WE WERE TO WORK TOGETHER INSTEAD OF ONE OF US ON OUR OWN. THE WORKING TOGETHER PIECE IS WHERE WE CAN MAKE MAJOR STRIDES. IN THAT END, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER TAKING A STAND ON CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT THAT BASICALLY PROMOTES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR COUNTIES THAT WILL BE ON OUR NOVEMBER ELECTION AVAIL I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW TO ALL CITIZENS AND WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOLKS ON THIS. AND SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP AT OUR MEETING AND WE DIDN'T STICK IT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEW BUSINESS AND THROWING YOU TO THE WOLVES, BUT PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT IT. IF WE CAN NOT DO THINGS LIKE THAT, WE WILL NEVER GOING TO CHANGE THOSE NUMBERS AND ONE THING I WANTED TO DO AND CALLING FOR INCREASE OF DIVERSITY ON OUR BOARD. WE END TO HAVE THE SAME GOOD PEOPLE. THEY ARE ALL GOOD PEOPLE. NOBODY BAD ON THERE. ALL GOOD PEOPLE AND TEND TO USE THE SAME GOOD PEOPLE OVER AND OVER IN A VORTEX. IF WE HAVE FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE THE PROPERTY OF PLACE CHANGE, YOU NEED TO HAVE HO HOTELIERS ON THERE. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A HOTELIER ON THERE OR MORE OF THE HOSPITALITY FOLKS ON THERE. SOME OF THE LARGEST EMPLOYERS THAT ARE NONCONTROVERSIAL AND QUALITY OF PLACE FOCUS. WHERE WE GET COMMENTS AND PERSPECTIVE ON SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT DRIVE OUR INDUSTRY. WE ARE DOING GREAT ON THE INDUSTRY SIDE THAT PART IS DOING WELL. ALL THAT SUPPORT INDUSTRY, HOUSING, EDUCATION, AMENITIES. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE REALLY STRUGGLING. THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING AND HOPE WE CAN WORK BETTER TOGETHER IN THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR AND IN PARTICULAR I WOULD LIKE -- I WOULD LIKE STAFF -- LIKE THE EXPERTS. Y'ALL ARE THE EXPERTS. NOT THE BOARD BUT THE EXPERTS TO TAKE A STAND ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS IT MATTERS AND THIS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT IN NO BRAINER. THREW OUT THE SOFTBALL. I LEFT THE HARD ONES FOR ANOTHER TIME. BUT THAT IS A SOFTBALL AND THAT ONE REALLY NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT. I SEE YOUR INDUSTRIAL -- THE FUN -- YOUR BIG SITES. THEY ARE ALL IN THE COUNTRY, FOR THE MOST PART. ROBSTOWN INDUSTRIAL, YOU HAVE GANDY. I WILL BRING THE SLIDE BACK UP. INDUSTRY WITH THE ROBSTOWN SES ANYWAY, AAPPRECIATE IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE ALWAYS PROVIDE REPORTS. I GET IT. IT IS A DIFFICULT POSITION FOR TO YOU TAKE A POSITION ON SOMETHING WITHOUT YOUR BOARD'S DIRECTION BECAUSE YOU WORK FOR BOARD AND SOMETHING THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WITH YOUR BOARD AS FAR AS HOW YOU DO THAT. OUR UNEMPLOYMENT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS HAVE TRAILED THE STATE. MANY, MANY YEARS IT HAS BEEN A TREND FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. I AM NOT SAYING RIGHT OR WRONG -- IT'S WRONG. I AM NOT SAYING IT IS YOUR FAULT. IT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE REASONS FOR THAT. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ON THE BOARD WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD FOR MANY YEARS AND EVERY TIME I GO AND GET AN ECONOMIC OUT OUTBREAK. I USED TO TALK ABOUT IT AND POINT OUT THAT THANK OUR UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS HIGHER THAN THE REST OF THE STATE AND BEEN THAT WAY FOR A LONG TIME. NOT THAT WE SHOULDN'T DELVE INTO IT AND KIND OUT WHY AND NOT SOMETHING NEW. SOMETHING GOING ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND KIND OF AN ADD THING FOR SURE. ABOUT -- ODD THING FOR SURE. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND I FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB IN TERMS OF WHAT DO YOU. IT'S HARD, BECAUSE YOU SELL -- YOU ARE SELLING THE AREA, RI RIGHT. AND SO WHEN SOMEONE COMES TO THE AREA, YOU ARE TAKING THEM TO PLACES IN NUECES AND SAN P PAT. AND YOUR JOB IS TO GET PEOPLE [02:25:01] IN COASTAL PWENLDZ. AND SOMETIMES WE HAVEN'T HAD, UNFORTUNATELY, THE THINGS, THE RAIL, THE ACCESS TO THE POINT IN NUECES COUNTY. AN A LOT OF IT GOING TO SAN P PAT. I DON'T LOVE THAT, BUT I GET IT AND UNDERSTAND IT. WENT ST. LOUISIANA AND FLORIDA AND ALL PART OF THE SAME REGION. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE D DONE. I THOUGHT YOU HAD A HOTELIER. >>JUDGE CANALES: THEY DO NOT. I AM ON THE BOARD AND WE DO N NOT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHOEVER APPOINTS BOARD MEMBERS -- >> I WILL ADD, COMMISSION REMEMBER SOMETIMES THE INVESTOR SEATS ARE REFLECTED TO HON IS THE INVESTOR IN THE ORGANIZATION. >>JUDGE CANALES: A PAY TO PLAY. SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS PAY TO PLAY. HERE IS HOW WE CAN HELP. WE CAN ENCOURAGE THEM. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THE RULES OF THE GAME. IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE RULES OF THE GAME YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO PLAY AND KIND OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GETTING INFORMATION FOR OUR FRIENDS LIKE OUR HOTELIERS WHO SAID -- BY THE WAY THEY CAN BE TREMENDOUSLY HELPFUL TO THE REST OF THE BOARDS AS CAN HE OF HAVING ROLAND HERNANDEZ AS EX-OFFICIO. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A BOARD MEMBER WHO IS VOTING TO BE LEVEL OFFUL TO THE BOARD. HE IS AN EXAMPLE OF SOMEBODY THAT WE ARE RECRUITING, IF YOU WILL SO A TON OF RECRUITMENT, NOT JUST ABOUT THE APPOI APPOINTMENTS. >> JUDGE, I DON'T KNOW. BUT HAVE YOU AS EX-OFFICIAL YO. >>JUDGE CANALES: NO, I'M HERE TO DEFEND NUECES. I AM NOT GOING ANYWHERE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE ONLY HAVE ONE SEAT. >> WE ARE CHEAP BECAUSE WE PAY $50,000 AND THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI OWNS EVERYTHING ON THE BOARD BECAUSE THEY HAVE $700,000. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THEY MADE A FINANCIAL COMMITMENT. >>JUDGE CANALES: HOW THAT WORKS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WAS ON COMMISSIONERS COURT, WE DIDN'T HAVE A SEAT. PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO GET ONE SEAT AND HAVE THE COURT TO APPROVE $50,000. I WILL BE HAPPY TO -- >>JUDGE CANALES: ANOTHER ONE? THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: APPOINTING SOMEONE LIKE A HO HOTELIER. >>JUDGE CANALES: AWESOME. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: RULES ARE THE RULES. WHEN I RAN FOR CITY COUNCIL BACK IN THE DAY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I RAN ON THAT THE SAY TWO SUPPORT THE E. D. C. IN THE TUNE OF $100,000 OR I WOULD SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE AT THE TIME, THE CITY WASN'T DOING ANYTHING EITHER.OPIN AND CITY INCREASED THE INVESTMENT AND I APPRECIATE THEM DOING AND THAT'S -- YOU KNOW, THAT IS WHAT IT IS. I AM HAPPY TO LOOK AT PUTTING ANOTHER NUMBER ON THERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: APPRECIATE THAT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: LOOK AT FUNDING OUT OF PART OF MY FUNDS BECAUSE I THINK IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO PUT IT ON SOMEONE IS, YOU KNOW, AN INDEPENDENT ROLE. DOESN'T HAVE POSSIBLE TO A HOTELIER. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST AN IDEA OR HOSPITALITY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YEAH, OR SOMEBODY. I AM HAPPY TO DO THAT AND TO FURTHER THE COMMITMENT TO THE EDC. THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES TO STAFF, PROFESSIONAL AND HAPPY TO COMMIT SOME OF MY HUNDRED DOLLARS IF THE COMMISSIONERS WANT TO DO IT THE SAME. MAYBE YOU CAN'T, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. YOU HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB. I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION TALK ALWAYS GIVE US AND ANYTHING TALK HELP US LET US KNOW. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DID THROUGHOUT THE YEARS. I KNOW YOU ALWAYS WORK WITH US REAL GOOD. AND I THINK SOMETIMES WE -- WE FORGET THAT EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW SOME LOCAL AREAS, SURROUNDING AREAS GET -- GET SOME OF THE COMPANIES AND SOME OF THE REFINERIES OR WHATEVER. SO IT IS A WIN-WIN SITUATION FOR EVERYBODY ANYWAY, BECAUSE WHATEVER IS OUT THERE IN PORTLAND AND ST. PAT, AND NUECES COUNTY WILL BENEFIT EITHER BY SHOPPING OR BY HOMES OR EVERYTHING ELSE. SO, YOU KNOW -- I KNOW YOU GUYS WORK HARD AND TRY -- I KNOW YOU TRY TO GET EVERYTHING DONE HERE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. AND IT CAN'T HAPPEN 100% OF THE TIME I DON'T THINK. BUT IN ALL FAIRNESS, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING. MY VISION -- THE JUDGE KNOWS THIS TOO, MAYBE WE CAN MERGE WITH YOU GUYS OR MERGE WITH R ROBSTOWN. BUT I THINK THAT -- WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE THINGS AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, MAYBE WE NEED TO NOT DO THOSE THINGS. >>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: BUT IN ALL, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK AND BRINGING THE COMPANIES DOWN. IF YOU BRING THEM DOWN WE WILL SOW KNOW THEY ARE OUR NEIGHBORS. I THINK OUR NEIGHBORS WILL HELP NEWS A LONG RUN AND BENEFIT [02:30:03] SOMEHOW AND NOT BENEFIT 100%. BENEFIT 30, 40, 50, 60. AND STILL -- STILL -- STILL HELPING NUECES COUNTY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JUDGE JUDGE YEAH, THANKS AND -- >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. I WANT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT I APPRECIATE THEIR HARD WORK AND THE PROGRAM GUESS. THANK YOU AGAIN. APPRECIATE. >>JUDGE CANALES: IIAN, WHENEVER WE HAVE A CHANCE AND NOT TODAY BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT IS TIMELY, BUT A BIG CONCERN OF THE FUNCTION OF THE TYPE B BOARD AND SOME OF THE DOLLARS BEING APROP 1998ED. AND WE NEED TO -- APPROPRIATED. WE NEED TO VISIT THAT AND YOU BROUGHT UP THE DRONE PROGRAM. THIS IS VERY BENEFICIAL TO NUECES COUNTY. IN THAT CASE, WE GOT LUCKY BECAUSE A LINK BETWEEN THOSE DOLLARS AND OTHER GREATENTS TEASE LIKE THE KRAFT TRAINING CENTER. TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT OTHERS WILL BE A GREAT EXAMPLE. WE KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE A NEED. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND JUST AS WE APPLAUD JBCB AND STEEL DYNAMICS. WE HAVE TO TAKE AN INTEREST AND SAY SOFT HOW THE TYPE B FUNDS ARE BEING HANDLED. STATUTORILY -- THERE ARE REDEFINED TARGETED USES AND I THINK WE HAVE SOMEHOW GOTTEN OFF COURSE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET US BACK ON. I AM LIKE YOU. GIVE ME THE WORK. AMRAWTION IS NICE AND NOT ABOUT THE A-- APPLAUSE IS NICE. NOT ABOUT THE APPLAUSE. ABOUT GETTING THE QUALITY. WE ARE USING DOCTORS, NURSES, LOSING THE TYPE OF WORKFORCE WE CAN NOT AFFORD TO USE WHEN DON'T HAVE TIME TO DIVIDE OUR HOUSE. WE ONLY CAN UNITE IT. WE WILL HEAR FROM THE DIFFERENT MISSIONS FROM ROBSTOWN TO PART A. A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING AND WE NEED TO FIND COMMON COMMUNITY AND THE CONSTITUTIONAL AMOUNT AND IN THE COUNTRY IT ONE WAY. MANY OTHERS. WE LOOK FORWARD WORKING WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE. [3. Discuss and award RFQ 3167-21 Engineering Services for Nueces County Regional Drainage Master Plan Study.] >> THANK YOU WE WILL MOVE CONTINUE TO PERFECTLY TIME THE NCDC REPORT. I AM MINDFUL THAT THERE ARE FOLKS HERE -- OKAY, HOLDEN, JUST TAKE US THROUGH. I DON'T WANT TO RUSH YOU AT ALL BUT I DO WANT -- I MAY EVEN HAVE YOU DO IT IN PARTS IF -- COFILE, ARE YOU OKAY IN TIMES AND PLAINS -- >> JUDGE, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ITEMS IN PURCHASING THAT FOLKS -- >>JUDGE CANALES: HOLDEN, HOLD ON. YOU DON'T MIND. I DON'T WANT TO MINIMIZE BUT I AM GRATEFUL AND MINDFUL THAT WE HAVE TIME SENSITIVE THINGS. MICHAEL, DO YOU WANTS TO TAKE OVER THEM. THANKS, HOLDEN. IT WILL MAKE YOURS BETTER. ITEM 3 IS PURCHASING. >> ITEM 3 -- C-3, ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR NUECES COUNTY DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN STUDY. I WILL PASS OFF THE SCORING. >>JUDGE CANALES: SOUNDS GOOD. >> THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> OKAY, JUDGE, WE HAD A BID OPENING ON NOVEMBER 29. AND COMMISSIONERS, WE RECEIVED FIVE BIDS HAVE REALLY GREAT COMPANIES. WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION AMONGST THE SELECTION COMMITTEE MEMBERS. AND WE DID RECEIVE SOME INPUT FROM SUSAN ROTH THAT THE ACCOUNT HIRED TO HELP US BE AN EXPERT IN THIS AREA. AND THE COMMITTEE CONSISTED OF THE JUDGE, COMMISSIONER MAREZ, JUAN PIMENTEL, BELINDA, MYSELF [02:35:08] AND MARIA FROM GRANTS. AND THE SCORES REFLECTED THERE MAINLY DIFFERENT ON THE PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS. S IT A AT THE RATES TO THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. THE GROUP, AS A WHOLE, REALLY FELT STRONGLY IN THE RANKING THAT WE CAME UP BE HERE. AND SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING AWARD TO HALFF ASSOCIATES AND, INC. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SO MOVED. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SE SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. MOTION AND SECOND. AND ANY QUESTIONS FOR MICHAEL. REMIND EVERYBODY A SECOND PIECE OF THIS ITEM NUMBER 4. >> THIS IS THE ENGINEER. THE PRIME ENGINEER. WE HAVE A TWO-PART PROGRAM AND WILL FOLLOW UP WITH THE SECOND ITEM FOR THE SUBCONTRACTORING ENGINEER. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. OKAY. MICHAEL, TELL US ABOUT THE SUB -- WE CALL IT THE CUB PRIME. >> ITEM C-3-4 WHICH IS DISCUSS AND AWARD RF Q, ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR ORIGINAL DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN STUDY FOR DRAINAGE DISTRICTS 2. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CAN I JUST ASK -- WHERE -- GOING B BACK. WHERE -- WHO IS HALFF ASSOCIATES. >> WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES H HERE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE DON'T GET RECOMMENDATIONS UNTIL THE DAY OF. WE DON'T GET TO ASK QUESTIONS BEFORE. >>JUDGE CANALES: HOLD ON 4. JE GENTLEMEN, YOU ARE HERE. NO BETTER WAY TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF THAN TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF. SO WILL YOU MIND SOMEONE TAKING THE PODIUM AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT -- TELL THE COURT A LITTLE BIT YOUR BACKGROUND. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: ALREADY VOTED ON 3. >>JUDGE CANALES: HE HAS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF THAT IS OKAY WITH EVERYBODY ELSE. >>JUDGE CANALES: NICE TO BE RECOGNIZED BACK HERE. SINCE YOU WILL BE DOING THE MASTER DRAINAGE STUDY FOR US NOW, REMIND THE COURT ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IMPRESSED THE COMMITTEE I KNOW, BECAUSE I WAS ON IT, HOW MANY MASTER DRAINAGE STUDIES YOU HAVE EMBARKED UPON IN THIS PARTICULAR FIELD OF HYDROLOGY. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. CHRIS CARONE FROM HALLFF ASSOCIATES. SEVERAL REPRESENTATIVES WITH OUR DRAINAGE STUDIES, ROBERT SCHULTZ OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND PARTNER MR. LANDON. SO I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND TURN OVER TO MR. MOYA TO GIVE YOU THE DETAILS ON IT. JUDGE JUDGE THANK YOU. CHRIS, WE REMEMBER FROM YOU YOUR TXDOT DAYS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I JUST NEED KIND OF A -- A WHO YOU A ARE, WHERE -- WHERE YOUR OFFICES ARE. A QUICK THING. I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE NAME, I AM SORRY. >> WE ARE LOCATED IN AMERICAN BANK PLAZA. 711 -- CADDY CORNER FROM THE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BUILDING. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: A NEW COMPANY? JUST A LITTLE BIT OF SOMETHING. >> YES, SIR. WE ARE OPENED IN 2018. WE GOT SET BACK -- OUR FULL OFFICE OPENING FEBRUARY 2020 AND THE PANDEMIC HIT US THAT STALLED US FROM EXPANDING FURTHER. EASED UP A BIT AN UP TO HIRING NINE PEOPLE INCLUDING A LOCAL WATER RESOURCES MANAGER WHO WILL COME ON BOARD NEXT WEEK AND INSTRUMENTAL IN THE STUDY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: ARE YOU A BRANCH OF A BIG OFFICE? >> A BRANCH OF A LARGER FIRM IN THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES. PRIMARILY IN TEXAS. WE DO ENGINEERING -- EVERYTHING BUT GEOTECHNICAL. PLANNED M OYA WHO WILL SPEAK NEXT AND IN ADDITION TO BEING THE LEAD ON THIS IS THE CHAIRMAN OF OUR BOARD. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU ARE WORK IN THE NORTHWEST. >> YES, MA'AM, FOR COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS COURT. WE ARE 1100 FOLKS. ESTABLISHED IN 1950. SO THE WATER RESOURCE SIDE HAS BEEN THE CORE OF OUR BUSINESS SINGS FIRST ESTABLISHMENT FOCUSED ON NATURE-BASED SOLUTION. I THINK PROBABLY AHEAD OF HIS TIME IN THE 60S. I LEAD OUR WATER RESOURCE GROUP FOR OUR FIRM. OUR WATER RESOURCE GROUP IS ABOUT 150 PEOPLE FOCUSED JUST ON THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS. WE DO A LOT OF WORK -- I AM [02:40:01] ACTUALLY OUT OF THE AUSTIN OFFICE WHICH IS WHERE I RESIDE. WE DO WORK FOR THE WATER DEVELOPMENT PLANS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SORRY YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN AUSTIN. >> THE DEVELOPMENT BOARD IS THERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THEY HAVE YOU CAPTIVATED THERE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: DO YOU HAVE OTHER LOCAL FOLKS THAT YOU ARE WORKING ON WITH REGARD TO THIS. >> YES, SIR. THE FOLKS HERE. TO BE QUITE HONEST OUR PROJECT MANAGER OUT OF OUR SAN ANTONIO OFFICE. HIS NAME IS JOSH LOGAN. SPENDS A LOT OF I'M WORKING WITH THE CORPUS CHRISTI FOLKS. SPENDS HALF HIS TIME -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I SEE DAN LAND DECKER. >> WE HAVE TEAMED UP WITH THEM ON THE PROJECT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: KIND OF WHAT -- I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND A LOT OF LOCAL IN THIS. AND THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THIS COURT. AND THAT GIVES US A LOT -- I SHOULDN'T SAY "US" I DON'T WANT TO TALK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE BUT GIVES ME COMFORT WHEN YOU HAVE GOOD LOCAL PEOPLE LIKE THAT INVOLVED AND APPRECIATE KNOWING THAT AND THAT IS ALL I WAS TRYING GET THE EMPHASIS ON HOW MUCH LOCAL THERE WAS. HOW MANY VERY SOURCES THERE WERE. SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE IT COVERED AND THAT IS PERFECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: ON TO NUMBER 4. [4. Discuss and award RFQ 3168-21 Engineering Services for Nueces County Regional Drainage Master Plan Study (NCDD2).] THANK YOU, JUDGE. APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. >>JUDGE CANALES: BACK TO NUMBER 4. MICHAEL WILL HAND YOU A SIMILAR SCORING SHEET. THIS IS FOR THE SUB-PRIME. REMEMBER THAT OUR WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD GRANT HAD A SUB-PRIME AND EVERYTHING WE DID WAS IN KEEPING WITH THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD GRANT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WOULD MOVE PASSAGE OF THIS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. A MOTION AND A SECOND. LET'S LET MICHAEL GET BACK TO THE PODIUM AND MAKE ANNOUNCEMENTS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THIS IS EASY FOR ME BECAUSE ALL THREE OF THESE ARE LOCAL. I WASN'T FAMILIAR WITH THE LAST ONE BUT I AM FAMILIAR WITH THESE THREE. I THINK I AM BLOWING OVER THIS ONE. >> I WILL MENTION THAT WE DID CONDUCT A BID OPENING SEPTEMBER 29. WE RECEIVED THREE BIDS AND THE RECOMMENDATION I WARD OF THE SUB-PRIME -- TO THE PRIME WE JUST AWARDED AND THIS RECOMMENDATION FOR INTERNATIONAL CONSULTING ENGINEERS THE ONE RELATED TO THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: CALL FOR THE QUESTION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I MADE A MOTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION AND A SECOND ALREADY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY. >> WE HAVE GOOD PARTICIPATION FROM NUECES COUNTY DRAINAGE DISTRICTS 2. THEY CAME OUT ON TWO OCCASIONS TO GO OVER THIS PROCESS HERE WITH US. AND SO, THANK YOU FOR RECOMMENDING THE SELECTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. THIS IS REALLY -- A VERY IMPORTANT STUDY. I THINK IT -- IT IS ALMOST HISTORIC IS PROBABLY A GOOD WAY TO PHRASE IT. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THAT TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD HAS GIVEN TO US. AND SUSAN IS HERE WITH US IN THE AUDIENCE. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN. AND REALLY -- I MEAN, YOU MAYBE HAVE ONE OF THOSE NAMES THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WATER NECESSARILY ISN'T IN OUR BRAIN AS FAR AS A HOUSE HOLD NAME, BUT IF THERE WERE SUCH A THING AS A HOUSE HOLD NAME FOR HYDROLOGY, IT WOULD BE HALFF AND ASSOCIATES. I WITH A TONIGHT SAY FOR ME HAVING YOUR -- YOUR BACKGROUND WORK, YOUR EXPERIENCE AND MOST IMPORTANTLY THE EXEMPTION WITH THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WILL SAY NOW IS THAT WE ARE HOPING THAT THIS STUDY LEADS TO MORE DOLLARS FOR THE PROJECTS THAT YOU WILL TELL US WE NEED. WHAT IS EXCITING OF USING THE SUB-PRIME, THEY WERE ALSO THE RECIPIENTS OF OTHER DOLLARS, DRAINAGE DISTRICT NUMBER 2, THAT THEY BELIEVE THROUGH MONITORING AND FLOOD WARNING SYSTEMS. SOME SORT OF BELLS AND WHISTLES AND WORKING WITH THEM WITH YOU AS THE LEAD WILL LEAD TO A ROBUST TRI-COUNTY DRAINAGE STUDY AND ALL WE ASK TO COME BACK OFTEN WITH SUSAN TO STAY ABREAST OF THE INFORMATION BECAUSE WE HAVE GOT THE DUTY OF LETTING JIM WELLS AND CLAYBURG KNOW HOW WE ARE DOING AT ALL POINTS AND SEEING ANDREO INVOLVED. BECAUSE WE SEE HIM ALL THE TIME AND CARRY THAT SHOULDER AND BUSHEDEN TO COME VISIT WITH US. SO HAPPY TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD. OUR FOLKS ARE HURTING OUT THERE EVERY TIME WE GET SORT OF A TROPICAL SYSTEM AND IT IS TIME TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. THANK YOU FOR STARTING THE PROCESS FOR US. [02:45:02] THANK YOU. SOFT WE DID TAKE YOU OUT OF ORDER BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS SOME MOVEMENT ON OTHER PLACES YOU NEED TO GO. SO I WILL TAKE US BACK INTO REGULAR ORDER, MICHAEL, UNLESS YOU FEEL LIKE THERE IS SOMETHING PRESSING. OKAY. I APPRECIATE THAT REGULAR AGENDA ITEM AND I WILL CALL FOR HOLDEN AND LET THE COMMISSION KNOW AT THIS TIME THAT WE WILL TAKE A LUNCH BREAK FOR CHURCH. IT IS ALWAYS HELPFUL. AND WE WILL TAKE OUR 12-1 LUNCH BREAK. AND WE HAVE GOT AN IMPORTANT FINANCIAL CALL WITH -- WITH THE BOA AND -- I AM TRYING TO PRACTICE TJLY MAKE IT ALL WORK. >> JUDGE, I AM JUST ASKING BECAUSE THAT REALLY SETS US BACK FOR THE DAY. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THAT CALL CAN BE DONE TOMORROW TO KEEP GOING. >>JUDGE CANALES: NO, IT CAN'T. HE IS ON THE WAY -- WE ALL NEED A LUNCH BREAK AND WE HAVE BEEN MOVING VERY, VERY QUICKLY. SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE QUICKLY, HOLDEN. I I THINK YOU SAW -- YOU HEAR THE WRITING ON THE WALL. >> I WON'T KEEP YOU ALL -- >>JUDGE CANALES: SEE THE WRITING ON THE WALL. >> I WON'T KEEP FROM YOU -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: DO 30 MINUTES INSTEAD OF AN HOUR. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S LET HOLDEN. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I ASKED A QUESTION -- CAN WE DO 30 MINUTES. >>JUDGE CANALES: I NEED TO HAVE 12 TO 1. FOR THE PRESIDING OFFICER AND AGAIN WE USUALLY TAKE A LUNCH BREAK. IF WE FINISH EARLIER, I CAN WORK WITH YOU GUYS DO EXECUTIVE SESSION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT WE ALWAYS DO TAKE A BREAK USUALLY. AND HE WRTED EARLY SO I THINK WE ARE GOOD. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH LUNCH. I GET IT, IF YOU HAVE A CALL AND PROCEDURE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL PUT A LUNCH BREAK EVERY SINGLE TIME FROM 12 TO 1. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE ON THAT. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE A LUNCH BREAK AND I WOULD RATHER WORK THROUGH LUNCH. I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE ON THAT NOT TODAY -- TAISH YOUR CALL BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT A LUNCH BREAK ON AGENDA. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL WORK ON THAT AFTERWARDS. LET HOLDEN -- WE ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD EFFICIENTLY. TODAY AS A PRESIDING OFFICER WE NEED TO TAKE A RECESS AND FOR AN IMPORTANT REASON AND GO AHEAD AND STICK TO THAT PLAN. AND IF WE FINISH EARLIER, WE FINISH EARL YEAR. [2. Receive update from the Nueces County Industrial Commission a/k/a Nueces County Development Commission.] WE ARE HERE UNTIL MIDNIGHT IF NEEDED. GO AHEAD, HOLDEN. >> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS AND GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. HERE TO GIVE OUR UPDATE FOR THE NCDC. WE LOOK NOR TO BE A REGULAR THING FROM HERE ON OUT. WE ARE GOING TO SHOOT FOR EVERY OTHER MONTH. UNLESS THERE IS A FEELING BY THE COMMISSION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM US MORE FREQUENTLY, BUT WE WANT TO BE AVAILABLE FOR YOU ANY WAY WE CAN. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR THE NCDC, FOR OUR MISSION AND WORK AND EXCITED FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES AHEAD OF US. NEXT SLIDE HERE. I WILL START WITH A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE OFFICE, ON THE STAFFING SIDE OF THING. OBVIOUSLY RIGHT NOW, WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF A BETH OF A TRANSITION POST CONSULTANT. WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS AS AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY WE WANT TO KEEP DOING THE GOOD WORK WE HAVE BEEN DOING AND ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE DOING TO NOT TO REFOCUS BUT TO REFINE IT. WE ARE EXCITED THAT JILL STRISNICK IS FULL TIME. A TWO-MEMBER STAFF THAT IS DOING THE WORK PREVIOUSLY DONE BY THREE-MEMBER STAFF. OBVIOUSLY A CHALLENGE. BUT WE DEFINITELY SEE WAYS TO MOVE FORWARD AND EXPLORES THOSE AND AS PART OF THAT, WE WANT TO GET ON PAPER A STRATEGIC PLAN IN THE PAST HAS BEEN A BIT OF A BLIND SPOT. WE CERTAINLY HAD A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT GUIDED US, BUT I CAN'T SAY IT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO PAPER AND ONE OF OUR FIRST GOALS HERE IS GETTING SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE POST COVID ENVIRONMENT AND SOME OF THE STAFFING CHANGES THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH. THAT SUFFICIENTLY IS BROAD AND ACTIONABLE. ENCOMPASSING THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND TO THAT END, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING INPUT FROM THE FULL COMMISSION. WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO BEST ACHIEVE REGULAR MEETINGS AND THROUGH E-MAIL COMMUNICATION. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE RESPONSE CITY OF TO YOUR NEEDS AS COMMISSIONERS AND NEEDS OF THE DISTRICT AS WE ARE SEEKING TO REPRESENT THE ENTIRE COUNTY. AND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, WE HAD A BRIEF MEETING AND HE BROUGHT UP TOO HELPFUL FOR US TO HAVE A CONDENSED SUMMARY OF SOME OF OUR ACTIVITIES AND MINUTES. ONE PAGE TO ESSENTIAL OUT TO YOU AND SOMETHING TO LOOK TO EXPLORE. EVERYTHING THAT COMES OUT IN OUR MINUTES FROM THE BOARD MEETINGS AS WELL AS OTHER SELECTIVE ITEMS THAT WILL BE RELEVANT TO EACH OF YOU. WE WILL BE LOOKING TO DO THAT. [02:50:01] THEY HAD A GREAT PRESENTATION AND WORKING WITH THEM WHERE APPROPRIATE AND ALL OF OUR COUNTY PARTNERS. COLLABORATION IS A BIG PARTY OF WHAT WE DO AND FROM THE FOR THE TO THE DMD TO THE CRDC, VISIT RDC AND CORPORATE CHRISTIE OF HOW TO BENEFIT THOSE RELATIONSHIPS THROUGH THE BENEFIT OF NUECES COUNTY. AND THEN ON THE FUND RAISING, WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING A 501-C-3 ESTABLISHED. JOHN BREYER, OUR CONSULTANT, STATED HE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING FOR US NOT NECESSARILY A FINALIZED 501-C H 3. AND EXPLORE OTHER AVENUES AND RAISE TODAY START FUND RAISING AND SOMETHING ON OUR AGENDA TO GET ROLLING. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. A QUICK UPDATE ON SOME OF OUR PROJECTS. I WILL SAY NOT ALL OF THESE PROJECTS ARE NECESSARILY TRADITIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN THE SENSE THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A NEW COMPANY OR EXPANDING BUSINESS COMING INTO THE COUNTY. PROJECT SAILBOAT IS ONE OF THOSE. A BATTERY STORAGE PROJECT. WITH ALL OF THESE, I AM GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT -- NOT VA VAGUE, BUT JUST SOME THINGS THAT I AM HAPPY TO SHARE IN MEETINGS ONE ON ONE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT SOME THINGS THAT WE ARE JUST GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CAREFUL ABOUT. AND PROJECT SAILBOAT IS A GOOD ONE. BATTERY STORAGE INSTALLATIONS NORTHWEST OF THE COUNTY POTENTIALLY A THIRD PROJECT THAT WILL SUPPORT THE NAVAL AIR STATION AND RESILIENCY EFFORTS. >> THESE ARE LARGE -- TO GET PEOPLE'S MINDS -- WE ARE WE ARE TALK LARGE. >> VERY LARGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: NOT STORING AA BATTERIES. >> NOT DOUBLE A OR AAA. VERY, VERY LARGE. I DON'T HAVE THE MEGAWATTS IN FRONT OF ME NOW BUT WE CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION. IF ANY OF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THAT IN GREATER DETAIL. PROJECT SUNSHINE. LITTLE BIT ON HOLD. NOT NECESSARILY A TRADITIONAL BUSINESS COMING IN BUT A SERVICE THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING TO WORK WITH ANOTHER COMPANY TO PROVIDE WITH THE COUNTY IN ENERGY RESILIENCE AND SOLAR TECHNOLOGY. AN EXCITING ONE AND FEW MORE MEANING TO GET THAT BACK ON OUR RADAR. PROJECT BOTTLENOSE. THIS IS TAKING A LEAD ON THIS ONE AND EXCITING AND BIG BENEFITS FOR THE PORT, AS WELL AS FOR THE COUNTY AS THEY FACILITATE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THE PORT AND SYSTEM AND CORPUS CHRISTI AND CENTERED AROUND AI BASED SOFTWARE TO HELP THE PORT AND OTHER PORTS. AND WE WANT TO SEE WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: AGAIN AI, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. >> AI, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. PROJECT BANNER. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, I KNOW IN YOU OPINION A MEETING. THE COMPANY THAT WE HAD THAT BRIEF MEETING ABOUT. VERY EARLY STAGE. RIGHT NOW OUR ROLE IS OPENING DOORS AND CONNECTING THEM WITH PEOPLE AS THEY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT PERMITTING AND WHAT NOT. HOPE -- WE EXPECT DOWN THE LINE EXPECT MORE ACTION ON THIS AND BE EXCITED TO SHARE WITH ALL OF YOU. WE WILL GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE THERE. HERE IS A JUST A FEW OF THE OTHER SELECT ACTIVITIES WE HAVE EITHER UPCOMING OR THE RECENT PAST. WE WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO -- ON THE 21ST. OUR KICKOFF MEETING WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND OTHER COUNTY PARTNERS AND REALLY EXCITING AND NCDC IS PLAYING A ROLE IN PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND ALSO IN RELATIONSHIP BUILDING. THE SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE GREASE, SO THEY SAY. WE WANT TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CORPS AND BRING UP AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE PROJECTS OF NUECES COUNTY AND THE AREA AT LARGE. WE ARE HAPPY TO MAKE THE CONNECTIONS AND WE ARE EXCITED WHERE THAT IS GOING. BOB HALL PIER. WE ARE VERY EXCITED. I SERVED ON THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. AND THE $30 MILLION THAT THE GAO STATE THIS WE PUT FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT AND GOTTEN WORK WITH OUR NEXT BULLET POINT COLLECTING A LOT OF INFORMATION ON VARIOUS PROJECTS, HISTORICAL INFORMATION AND PULLING IT FROM A NUMBER OF SOURCES JILL PULLED TOGETHER A GREAT COVER SHEET FOR THE ONE PAGER THAT WE ARE TAKING UP TO AUSTIN FOR SOME OF THE LOBBIES EFFORTS AROUND THIS, WHICH HISTORICAL PICTURES WHICH SEEMS SOMETHING REALLY IMPORTANT TO GIVE PEOPLE A TASTE OF WHAT BOB HALL MEANS AND MEANT FOR THIS AREA AND DRIVING HOME THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS PROJECT. [02:55:01] AGAIN WITH THIS REPOSITORY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE A FEW SELECT PROJECTS, BOB HALL PIER, THE AIRPORT. REALLY INTERESTING. AND ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN IDENTIFY IN YOUR DISTRICT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO KIND OF CREATE A CENTER OF REPOSITORY AND OF A PROJECT. PLEASE LET US KNOW. REACH OUT AGAIN. AS I MENTIONED WE WOULD LOVE TO SET UP RECURRING MEETINGS IF THAT IS SOMETHING XHEMABLE TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND AN AVENUE TO BRING THAT UP. WE WANT THAT TO BE USEFUL TO YOU AS WELL. THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO. COMMISSIONER MAREZ. , WE HOPE TO BRING YOU MORE ON THIS. BUT GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR COORDINATION BETWEEN THE F FAIRGROUNDS AND S PIC TRA WHO MANAGES THE FAIRGROUNDS. AND STONEWATER WHO IS MANAGING -- IT IS THE CROSSROADS DISTRICT. THE FORMER OUTLETS. WE WANT TO BRING THEM TOGETHER BECAUSE SHARE -- PRACTICALLY SHARE A PARKING LOT AND THE WHOLE CONCEPT IS A KEYSTONE LOCATION. ANYTHING THAT WE CAN TO DO HELP FACILITATE AND ENGAGEMENT BETWEEN THOSE TWO ENTITIES CAN BE REALLY, REALLY BENEFICIAL FOR THAT REGION AND ALREADY TWO MEETINGS. LUNCH MEETING WE HAD LAST MONTH AND THEY ARE BOTH VERY EXCITED ABOUT ALL THE THINGS THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO TOGETHER. EVENTS TO CO-HOST AND OTHER KIND OF WAY THAT'S THEY CAN EAST FILL SOME OF THE NEEDS OF THE OTHER ENTITY THERE. CONTINUING TO WORK ON THE WEB SITE, CHECK THAT OUT. WE ARE TRYING TO HAVE THAT BE AS TOUCH DATE AS POSSIBLE ON ALL OF THE ONLINE PUBLIC DOCUMENTS AND OPEN RECORDS. I WILL SAY THAT IT HAS BEEN GREAT. WE HAVE GOT ENGAGE NUMBER OUR MEETINGS FROM THE WEB SITE OF PEOPLE FINDING US HERE AND E-MAILING US SAYING WOULD LIKE TO JOIN THE MEETING. I THINK IN THAT WAY, WE ARE REACHING A BROADER AUDIENCE. OF COURSE WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BOOST THAT SOMETHING THAT LONG TERM WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS REALLY AN EXPERT IN MARKETING AND ALL THIS STUFF COME IN AND TAKE OVER BUT SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING TO HAVE AS A REHOURS FOR THE N CDC. AND, AGAIN, IF WE CAN MAKE THIS A RESOURCE CORE YOU WE WILL DO THAT. AND TOUCHING ON THE OTHER FUNCTIONS. A PRESENTATION BY DR. JIM LEE OF THE IMPACT OF THE CENSUS. WE KNOW THE NUMBERS WERE NOT GREAT. WE ARE SEEING THAT WE ARE NOT EXPERIENCING THE GROWTH THAT THE REST OF TEXAS IS SEEING. WE HAVE AN AGING POPULATION. TWO VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FACTORS TO CONSIDER FOR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS SOMETHING WE WILL DO AND WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE KEEP DOING WHAT WE ARE DOING AND DO IT IN A WAY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE SUPPORTING THIS ISSUE. YOU. NEXT SLEIGHT SLIDE. FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES. COMMISSIONER MAREZ, YOU MENTIONED AT ONE POINT GETTING A TOUR SET UP OF THE NEW AMAZON FACILITY ONCE THAT IS UP AND RUNNING. DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATES YET. THEY DON'T HAVE A FULL-STAFF THERE. WE DO EXPECT -- I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANYTHING TOO TERMLY -- COMMIT AMAZON ON SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T DIRECTLY SAY BUT SHOULD HAVE SOMEBODY WE CAN SPEAK TO THERE BY THE END OF THE YEAR AND NEXT YEAR AND BY THERE, EXPLORE THE IDEA OF SETTING UP A TOUR FOR YOU, THE NCDC AND OTHER COMMISSIONERS OR JUDGE WHO WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. SKIP OVER THIS. A CONVERSATION WITH COMMISSIONER CHESNEY THAT WE FIGURED THAT OUT AND A HOLDING PATTERN. THERE ARE ANY OPPORTUNITIES WE AS A NCDC, TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS AND COUNTY-OWNED LAND AND YOU WANT TO SEE SOMETHING. TALK TO US AND ENGAGE US BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO BE A PROJECT MANAGER ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SOMETHING WE ARE CURRENTLY ENGAGING IN WITH OUR COUR COURTHOUSE. A COUNTY-OWNED LANDMARK. OUR ECONOMIC RECOVERY HAS BEEN VERY ACTIVE. WE ARE STILL IN THE RECOVERY WE LIKE TO NOT BE BUT THEY ARE. LOOKING FROM YOUNG WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT AND SUPPORT IN THE AREAS, AS WELL AS MIGHT BE D DONE. IAN MENTIONED IT IN OUR PRESENTATION AND CERTAINLY WORKING WITH THE CDRC WITH THIS IN TERMS OF THE SUPPLY CHAIN REDUCTION DUE TO COVID. AND COMING PACK ON THE 21ST PART OF ONGOING MANAGEMENT FOR CORPUS CHRISTI BAY AND THE LANDMARK DOCTOR A KEYSTONE PROJECT IN THAT IS LIVING SH SHORELINE AND OYSTER -- NORTH [03:00:03] BEACH SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING TO SUPPORT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE NORTH BEACH NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS ECOTOURISM IN THAT AREA. >> SOUP IR. >> OUR WEB SITE. WE ARE TRYING TO GET IT UPDATED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND HARD WITHOUT THE DEDICATED MARKETING PERSON WHICH IS A LONG-TERM GOAL OF OURS AND WE HAVE DONE A DECENT JOB OF KEEPING THAT UP TO DATE AND THE PROJECTS ON THERE. WE HAD A LOT OF THE BOB HALL INFORMATION LOOKING TO EXPAND THAT AND START.3 WE HAVE OUR MINUTES AND AGENDA FROM THE MOST RECENT MEETING AS SOON AS THEY ARE PUBLIC RECORD THEY ARE PUT ON THERE AND LOOK TO BACKFILL EVERYTHING ON A CAR CHIVE SIDE. >> I DO WANT TO THANK YOU, BECAUSE EVEN WHEN YOU FORM A GREAT COMMITTEE LIKE WE DID FOR BOB HALL AND HAVE GREAT SOURCES OF FUNDING FOR THE ACTUAL PUBLIC COMMENT SURVEY PIECE OF IT, IT STILL NEEDED STRUCTURE. AND YOU GUYS PROVIDED STRUCTURE. YOU PROVIDED THAT ABILITY TO HAVE THE CLERICAL BACKUP SO AGENDAS GOT OUT AND MEETINGS GOT NOTICED AND PROVIDED THE FACILITATIONS SO THE MEETING WOULD HAVE A START POINT AND AN END POINT. WE GOT ACCOMPLISHED WHAT WE NEEDED TO BECAUSE I WANT TO THINK OF THAT. ALL STAKE SHOULDERS IN THE PUBLIC COMMITTED TO UNDERSTANDING HOW THE OPTIONS PRESENTED BY JACOBS COULD SEE REALITY WITH THE 30 MILLION. JUST THIS MORNING I WAS ABLE TO VISIT WITH JOE ROM O, PART OF OUR LEGISLATIVE TEAM. AND CONFIRMING THAT ALTHOUGH THERE WAS SOME AND STILL BE ARPA APPROPRIATIONS THAT ARE YET TO BE DECIDED THAT THE DOLLARS THAT THE $30 MILLION WILL COME OUT OF, THAT BUCKET, COME THROUGH THE GAO THROUGH A DIRECT ALLEGATION FROM THE F FEDS. IT'S JUST -- YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO -- YOU KNOW, I WANT TO SEE IT IN WRITING WITH THE INK A WEEK DRY, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT 30 MINUTES IS VERY MUCH A SOLID ALLOCATION THAT IS COMING OUR WAY. AND NOW WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD TO PREPARE FOR HOW WE WOULD MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AS A COMMUNITY. AND THIS IS REALLY THANKS TO UNDER STANDING THAT ALL OF THAT MEANS HUGE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WHY THE NCDC HAS AN IMPORTANT ROLE AND WHY ALL COUNTIES THAT WANT TO SEE GROWTH NEED TO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT FOCUS. REALLY EXCITING AND YOU HAVE DONE A TON OF WORK. AND BECAUSE THEIR VISIBILITY, I DO BELIEVE WE GOT THE PROPER NOTICE THAT WE DESERVED FROM THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON YOUR GOOD PRESENTATION. BUT CERTAINLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE TOUR SO KIND OF KEEP FOLLOWING UP WITH AM SGLOON TO SEE IF WE CAN GET IN THERE BY DECEMBER, JANUARY, AROUND TH THERE. >> WE EXPECT TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT WE CAN TALK TO AROUND THAT TIME. I COULDN'T -- AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO COMMIT ANY SORT OF T TIMELINE. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, SUPER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR HOLDEN AT THIS TIME? IF NOT, HOLDEN, WE WILL LET YOU GO AND APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU. [3. Discuss and consider Change Order No. 3 for Mako Contracting to connect new fire suppression system for park office.] >>JUDGE CANALES: AT THIS TIME LOOK TO ITEM NUMBER 3. SCOTT CROSS WAS HERE EARLIER AND HE MAY HAVE HAD TO STEP OUT. CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 3 FOR MAK BE O CONTRACTING TO CONNECT NEW FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM FOR PARK OFFICE. LET ME OLD ON THAT BECAUSE THREE, FOUR AND FIVE -- >> YOUR HONOR -- >>JUDGE CANALES: HERE TESS. MAKO WITH THE CONNECTION. WE NEED TO DO THE CHANGE ORDERS THEIR WE KIND OF APPROPRIATED LAST TIME. >> YES, MA'AM, THAT IS A CHANGE ORDER FOR $15,000 AND SOME CHANGE TO HELP WITH THE WATER VAULT FOR THE FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, YOU WILL BE HAPPY TO NOTE THAT THE AMOUNT YOU PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IN THE PREVIOUS COURT, THE BIG AMOUNT THAT YOU APPROVED AND THIS IS PART OF THAT THAT BASS ALREADY THERE. I ASKED FOR 29 AND CHANGE AND BROUGHT IT BACK TO YOU BY 15. AND REDUCED THE NUMBER. >>JUDGE CANALES: GREAT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YOU WILL NEED THAT OTHER 14. YOU KNOW. >> I AM JUST TRYING TO SAVE MONEY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I APPRECIATE IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL JUST MAKE THE MOTION. MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THIS. LAST COURT, WE ALREADY CREATED THE FUNDING. >> YES, MA'AM, WHICH MEMORIALIZES IT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW -- AT SOME POINT TERESA WILL HELP US WITH DEPARTMENT CODES. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL TO HE WAS [03:05:01] IN FAVOR SIGNIFICANCE ANY ANY BY SAYING AYE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THIS WAS NOT -- TERESA SAYING TO GET MONEY. >>JUDGE CANALES: BECAUSE IT IS NOT YOURS. BY THE WAY A FIRE IS UP PRESENTATION SYSTEM WAS NOT IN THE LAST BUILDING. [4. Discuss and consider the approval of Change Order No. 3 from Geofill Material Technologies to replace and upgrade electric service for new building at Horace Caldwell Pier.] THIS IS TO GET US UP TO CODE AND WHAT WE WANT. NUMBER 4, SCOTT, THIS WAS DEALT WITH. >> GEOFILL, THAT'S CORRECT? >>JUDGE CANALES: IT IS. >> ON THAT NOTE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LIKE WHEN ARE WE G GETTING TO THE END ROADS OF THAT. . >>. COVID KNOCKED THE CONTRACTOR FOR THE ELECTRICAL. SO WE HAD TO FIND A NEW SUB. SO THIS IS TO GET THE -- THE SPACE WIRED IMPENITENTIARY OF THE CONCESSION AREA THAT IS BUILDING. ONCE WE GET THAT DONE, WE CAN MOVE TO CFO, FIRE MARSHAL INFORMATION AND GET THE AUTOMATIC PANSY. IDA AND MYSELF WORKING WITH ROMEO AND MICHAEL WITH THE FURNISHINGS INSIDE. WE KNOW WHAT WE WILL ORDER AND STAGGER AND ORDER INSIDE THE SPACE SO WE DON'T HAVE ALL THIS STUFF WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO STORE. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET 'GO BACK. THE GE OFILL IS GOING TO GUARANTEE THAT THE SAME AMOUNT OF ELECTRICAL SERVICE. SORT OF. THAT NUMBER HOLDS. THAT'S CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> IF IT COSTS THEM MORE, IT COSTS US MORE BUT NOT US. >> GOOD POINT AND THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUE THAT THEY ARE HAVING ALL OVER THE PLACE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THIS IS THE UPGRADING OF THE ELECTRICAL SERVICE. >> IN THAT SPACE. >>JUDGE CANALES: ADDITIONAL COST. >> $10,000 AND A LITTLE BIT OVER AND THIS IS ONE WHERE I NEED YOUR HELP, JUDGE. I DON'T EVER ASK. >>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT -- THAT THE COURT UNDERSTANDS TWO DIFFERENT IS ISSUES. ONE WE SOLVED INTERNALLY REQUEST GEOFILL, OUR CONT CONTRACTOR. THEY WERE ABLE TO GET OUT AND GET NEW BIDS AND SOMETHING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT WITH COVID WORK FORCE. AND THEY DID THAT WITH NO COST TO US. THE UPGRADES THROUGH THE ELECTRICAL SERVICES SO WE DON'T HAVE TO RUN THROUGH THE CONCESSION. >> THEY HAD IT DESIGNED WHERE THE CONGESTION FEED WILL -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CAN'T YOU USE THE MONEY YOU JUST SAVED ON THE OTHER FOR THIS ONE. >> I GUESS I COULD. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WANT TOP DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT. WE APPROPRIATED $29,000 BEFORE. CAN WE USE THOSE SAVINGS TO DO THE UPGRADE ON THE ELECTRICAL? >> JUST REAPPROPRIATE THE DIFFERENCE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: REAPPROPRIATE ON SAVINGS. >> ME AND TERESA GOT TO KEEP IT SAFE ON DEPARTMENT CODES. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AND SECOND. AT LEAST SOLVE THIS PROBLEM FOR THE MOMENT. THANK YOU. LET ME GET YOU ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THAT SOLVES THAT PROBLEM. PRETTY GOOD, SCOTT. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD TO THAT? >> NOTHING THAN ONCE WE GET THIS ELECTRICAL DON, THE GUYS WERE WAITING ON THIS RIGHT NOW. THEY WERE READY TO GO. I THINK WE ARE GETTING REAL CLOSE TO HAVE A SOFT OPENING UP. AND I DON'T -- I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER SEEN A COUPLE OF THESE E-MAIL, MY CONCERN THAT WE HAVE A GOOD SHOWINGS WHEN WE OPEN IT UP. >>JUDGE CANALES: ABSOLUTELY. >> I AM WORKING WITH WHOEVER DID ALL YOUR AV STUFF IN HERE. TO GET AN IDEA WHAT WE NEED -- IDA HAS BEEN HUGE ON THIS. I DO NOT DO EDUCATIONAL OUTREACH. MEGAN PLAYED A ROLE IN WORKING WITH IDA AND THE SCREEN'S MONITORS AND INTERNET. IT IS HELPING WITH BROADBAND CONNECTION AND GOING TO BE CRITICAL. MEGAN IS WORKING ON GETTING HER PERMIT TO HOUSE DANGEROUS AND THREATENING LIKE SEA TURTLE SKULLS AND ARTICULATED DOLPHIN, SKELETON THAT CAN HANG FROM THE CEILING. MEGAN -- NOT MEGAN, BUT IDA DECIDED WHEN WE OPEN THIS THING UP START LIKE A 10 A.M. TO 2 P.M. SCHEDULE AT FIRST TO SEE HOW IT GOES, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE DON'T HAVE AN ORGANIZED SCHOOL GROUP IN THERE AND NGO USING. WE HAVE A PERSON IN THERE MONITORING KIND OF LIKE AN OMBUDSMAN, IN THERE, WITH PEOPLE COMING THROUGH WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC. WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF EXPENSIVE STUFF IN THERE COMMISSIONERS AND CAN'T OPEN IT UP AND SAY HAVE A GOOD TIME. AND FISH AND WILDLIFE ARE ON BOARD. REMEMBER, JUDGE. WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS. THEY ARE VERY EXCITED WHERE THEY ARE GOING AND GUESS WHAT ELSE FISH AND WILDLIFE TOLD US. YOU ARE MAKING IT TOO HARD ON YOURSELF. YOU CAN GENERATE PROBLEMATIC INCOME. [03:10:02] IF YOU WANT TO GO UP AND HAVE A SPECIAL DINNER TO TAKE CARE OF THIS SPACE, CHANGE OUT EXH EXHIBITS, YOU CAN DO THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT. BUT NORTH CAROLINA FOR THAT SPACE TO PROGRAMMATIC FOR NONELIGIBLE ACTIVITY. >> THAT IS FOR THE SPACE IT ITSELF. LIKE YOU WANTEDED TO HAVE A SPECIAL DINNER. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I HEAR YOU, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT IN WRITING BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS EVER AGAINST. >>JUDGE CANALES: SCOTT AND I WORK WITH U.S. OFFICIAL AND WILDLIFE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SPEAK IS ONE THING BUT WRITE SOMETHING ANOTHER. >>JUDGE CANALES: WRITE SOMETHING THE LAW. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CLARIFY AND VERIFY. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU HAVE TO UNDER STAND WHAT WE DID WRONG BEFORE AND DOING RIGHT. THE LAW -- A LOT OF LATITUDE BUT HAS TO BE FOR THE ACTUAL OBSERVATION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY GIVES ME OPINION THAT IS CLARIFIED AND VERIFIED, I AM GOOD. >> GOING ABOVE WHAT WE HAD LAST TIME WHAT THEY ASKED US. ALL GOOD NEWS. ALL GOOD NEWS. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE LAST THING THAT I WAS GOING TO SAY TIME TO HAVE ONE OF OUR GYM MEETINGS AND GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT THE CALENDAR AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE FORECAST AN OPENING DATE TO BE EVEN THOUGH AS WE GET CLOSER NARROW IT DOWN. 60 DAYS A NOW AND AN OPENING AS WELL AND CREATING THAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE OUT OUR PARTNER THAT'S WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE. >> JAYS TUNNEL HAS GOTWIN ME AND WILL HOST -- JACE TUTTLE IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE RESEARCH RESERVE AT UTMSI. AND WHEN WE WENT ABOUT THIS -- COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE SEEN A LITTLE PORTFOLIO THAT MARIA PUT TOGETHER. LETTERS OF COMMITMENT ON BEHALF OF LETTERS OF SUPPORT. LETTER OF COMMITMENT SHOW I USE ACTION. I WILL USE THE SPACE, CONTRIBUTE, DO THIS. THOSE WEIGH REAL HEAVILY WHEN WE HAVE LETTERS OF COMMITTEDMENT. THE LETTERS OF COMMITMENT OF PORT ARANSUS, THE SEASHORE LEARNING CENTER, UTMSI, TWW -- UPWD, USE OUR SPACE. AND WE WILL HAVE EXHIBITS. SOME OF THEM HISTORICAL AND HOUSE THE EXHIBIT OF HOW THEY BLYTHE BUILT THE JETTIES IN PORT A IN LATE 800S AND 1900S. A MINI MUSEUM OF SCIENCE AND HISTORY. AND CHANGE THEM OUT. GENERATE FUND RAISING AND FUND THE EXHIBITS AND MAYBE GET SPONSORS. THEY WILL HAVE ALL THESE TRICKS THAT THEY CAN -- THINGS ON THE WALL THAT'S THEY CAN USE AND OWN TUB OF TOYS TO EVERYTHING DOWN AND EVERYTHING TO WORK WITH. IT IS GOING TO BE WONDERFUL. IT IS GOING TO BE HUGE. SO I AM DONE. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT IS. THIS IS REALLY EXCITING AND MEGAN, THANKS. ALL THOSE BELLS AND WHISTLES, THE LITTLE THINGS WILL MAKE A BIG IMPACT ON THE EDUCATIONAL ASPECTS OF THIS. THIS IS REALLY EXCITING AND KEEP US POSTED. >> YES, MA'AM, I AM GOING TO [5. Discuss and consider approval of a Dune Protection Permit Exemption Amendment for a chapel structure and associated walkover DPP-0720-01p located at 7021 SH 361, Corpus Christi TX.] CUT IT OFF THERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: AT THIS POINT, YOU HAVE ONE MORE, THE DUNE PROTECTION PERMITTED EXEMPTION AMENDMENT THAT MEGLIN TELL US ABOUT WITH A CHAPEL STRUCTURE AND ASSOCIATED WALKOVER, 3021 SH 361. MEGAN, DO YOU RECOMMEND WE APPROVE THE DUNE PROTECTION PERMIT EXEMPTION. >> I DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS PERMIT. >> WOMAN: HAS GONE THROUGH --THE GI A AND BMAY SPECIAL CONDITIONS THAT THEY HAVE AGREED TO. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO MOVED, JUDGE. >> SECOND. >> IN A STATEMENT NOT JUST DUE WITH THIS BUT A CONCERNING E-MAIL I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU AND I SHARED IT WITH SCOTT. IT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT HAPPENS AFTER WE DO THESE DUNE PROTECTION PETITIONS MITTS. IF SOMEBODY SAY ALSO MAKE SOMETHING A. D. A. ACCESSIBLE. I AM GOING TO ASK YOU USE THIS AGENDA ITEM THAT WE GUYS HAVE A LITTLE MEETING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROBLEM. BRING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IN THAT WAS BROUGHT TO ME BY E-MAIL. AND JUST IN GENERAL TALK ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO MAKE -- FIRST OF ALL, CONFIRM THAT THE SITUATION IS WHAT THEY SAY. AND IF IT IS IN NONCOMPLIANCE, TELL THE COURT HOW WE CAN HAVE SOME TEETH AND IN CHANGING T THAT. >> WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. [03:15:01] >> THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH IF FOR THE LAST WEEK AND A HALF AND THE GLO PLUGGED IN. >>JUDGE CANALES: GOT IT. >> ONE OF THE CONCERNS YOU HAVE WITH THE DUNE PROCESS. IF LIVES IN COASTAL PARKS. WHEN WE GET AN APPLICATION, MEGAN DIGS HER TEETH TO SEE IF THE APPLICANT IS DOING SOMETHING THAT IN THE RULES WE USE. AND MEGAN GOES OUT AND THE SITE FOR THE APPLICATION WHILE BEING PROCESS. GROUND PROOFS THE SITE COMPLYING WITH THE PERMIT. AND WE DO A FOLLOW-UP POST CONSTRUCTION. NOT BEING DONE BEFORE. WE ARE DOING FOLLOW-UP AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION DID DO YOU ANYTHING SO WE CAN SIGN OFF ON IT. SO WE STARTED PLUGGING THAT GAP MONTHS AGO. WE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS ONE. >> WE UNDERSTAND. ALOOK FORWARD TO WORK TWOUING SOLVE THAT ISSUE. ALL NOSE FAVOR SIGNIFY -- I THINK WE DID THAT ALREADY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. . THE -- THE DU NE WERE TEXAS. FOR THE CLERK, DPP-0720-01P. >>JUDGE CANALES: ITEMS 6, 7, 8 AND 9 ARE VERY QUICK AND VERY [6. Discuss and consider adoption of an Order approving the District Clerk Records Management, Archiving, Preservation, and Restoration Plan for the FY 2021-2022 budget.] [7. Discuss and consider the adoption of the District Court Records Archive Fee of $10.00 for the 2021-2022 budget year on applicable documents under Texas Government Code Sec. 51.305.] IMPORTANT AND DEAL WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING WE HAD THIS MORNING. THE FIRST IS TO ADOPT THE ORDER OF THE DISTRICT COURT RECORDS AND RESTORATION PLAN. >> JUDGE, I WILL MOVE 6, ARE 7 AND 8. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET ME ANNOUNCE THAT I HAVE TO DO EACH ONE OF THEM SEPARATELY AT THIS TIME. >> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MOTION REFLECTED THAT THAT $10 FEE FOR THE DISTRICT COURT IS ONLY THROUGHOUT END OF THE YEAR. >>JUDGE CANALES: I NEED TO MAKE IT A LITTLE CLEANER, PRESENT. IT IS OCTOBER 1 THROUGH DECEMBER 31. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YES, MA'AM. SO MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE $10 DISTRICT COURT RECORDS ARCHIVED FEES. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. [8. Discuss and consider adoption of an Order approving the County Clerk Records Management, Archiving, Preservation, and Restoration Plan for the FY 2021-2022 budget.] 8 AND 9 DEALS WITH THE COUNTY CLERK. THE SAME THING THE FIRST IS TO ADOPT THE ORDER HER HER PRESERVATION. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> CLARIFICATION, THE SAME ONE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: FOR THE COUNTY. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT IS NOT THE SAME. THE LEGISLATURE CHANGED THE OTHER ONE SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR A ADOPTING THIS PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. [9. Discuss and consider the adoption of the County Clerk Records Archive Fee of $10.00 for the 2021-2022 budget year on applicable documents under Texas Local Government Code Sec. 118.025.] HER FEE IN ITEM NUMBER 9, ARCHIVES FEE FOR $10. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND, PLEASE. >> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THE ONE THING I FORGET TO ASK HER, LORENZ O, IS THAT THE MAXIMUM FEE. WE WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD THE MAXIMUM FEE. [10. Discuss and consider adopting a policy that any request for monies from the Nueces County Hospital District over $10,000 be approved by Commissioners Court prior to requesting any funds.] LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THROUGH A FEW MORE HERE. ITEM NUMBER 10, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADOPTING A POLICY THAT REQUEST FOR MONIES FROM THE NUECES COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT OVER $10,000 TO APPROVED BY COMMISSIONERS COURT. NOT FROM OUR OFFICE -- OKAY, COMMISSIONER, DO YOU WANT TO OUTLINE THIS AND BE WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SURE. I JUST WANT TO SAY IN THE FUTURE IF ANYTHING -- ANYTHING REQUESTED FROM THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO COME TO COMMISSIONERS COURT FIRST, ANYTHING OVER $10,000. I KNOW THAT -- TALKING TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT A LOT OF MONEY REQUESTED, $8 MILLION AND MOST DID NOT COME THROUGH THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, SO I THINK THAT ANYTHING THAT GOES -- IS REQUESTED FROM HERE GOT IT FOR PROGRAMS AND WHATEVER IT IS SHOULD COME TO COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR APPROVAL AND AGAIN TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. KEEPS THEM FROM GETTING INTO A BIND TO GO BACK TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY. BUT ANYWAY, I THINK THAT -- THIS IS GOING TO BE MY MOTION TO APPROVE THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: YEAH, I -- I ASKED JEN TOW PLEASE LOOK AT THIS. AND SHE WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO SEND ME BASICALLY A REMINDER THAT SECTION 281.04 ALREADY DEALS WITH THE CERTAIN FUNDS BY THE NUECES COUNTY DISTRICT. IN OTHER WORDS, STATUTORILY IT IS DEFINED WHAT CAN AND CANNOT BE USED AND SO YOU CAN'T RESTRICT ANY INDIVIDUAL THAT -- BABY-SITTER WAS GOING AND SPEAKING IN PUBLIC COMMENT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BUDGET TIME BECAUSE WE APPROVED THE BUDGET, BUT IT YOU WANT TO LIMIT YOURSELF. YOU CAN LIMIT YOURSELF AND YOU CAN'T LIMIT AN INDIVIDUAL IN THE UNOFFICIAL CAPACITY AND YOU CERTAINLY CAN'T LIMIT ANY KIND OF EMERGENCY FUNDS. [03:20:04] >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I AM NOT TALKING OF ELIMINATING ANYBODY BUT COMMISSIONERS BOARD ITSELF, $7 MILLION OR $8 MILLION THAT IS ALREADY EAR MARKED FOR PROGRAMS WE HAVE ALREADY. THAT IS THERE. BUT ANY ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS THAT -- THAT -- THAT THE COUNTY WANTS TO SUPPORT OR PARTNER WITH AND -- WE ASK IN THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO PROVIDE 100,000. $200,000. I THINK IT WILL COME TO COMMISSIONERS COURT FIRST BEFORE WE GO ASK THEM. >> I THINK IF THE -- IF IT IS A COUNTY REQUEST, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT IF IT IS -- IF IT IS A REQUEST THAT COMES FROM OUTSIDE THE COUNTY, I THINK THAT -- THAT IS REALLY NOT ALLOWED. >> I AM NOT -- NOT OUTSIDE THE COUNTY. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: FOR EXAMPLE, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY, I UNDERSTAND. BUT YOU HAVE TO DEFINE AN EMERGENCY AT THAT TIME. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL I AM SAYING -- JENNY, SHE HAS BEEN PONLDZERING THIS. I UNDER STAND, I GUESS, THE BASIC PREMISE OF IT AND DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT BECAUSE WE ALREADY DO THAT IN BUDGET. WE ALREADY -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE AIMING AT AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE $8 MILLION IS. PRESIDENT NUECES COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT SUPPORTS ALL OUR PROGRAMS AND REVIEW THAT DURING BUDGET. WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU TRYING TO AIM AT. >> ANYTHING ABOVE THAT THAT IS NOT ALREADY EAR MARKED. I KNOW WE DO DISPLAYS AND ALCOHOL -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I CAN THINK OF AN EXAMPLE -- COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ -- I AM NOT TRYING TO PICK ON. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: MADE A REQUEST FOR MOBILE -- AND ABOVE $10,000. I THINK IF A COMMISSIONER OR JUDGE GOES TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT SHOULD BE VOTED ON BY THE COURT OR AT THE VERY LEAST, NOT A COUNTY ASK BUT JOE GONZALEZ ASKING AS AN INDIVIDUAL -- NOT AS COMMISSIONER, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK -- WHEN I HEARD ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT JOHNNY DIME SAY THE COUNTY ASKED FOR THIS AND THIS AND THIS AND OUR TAX RATE -- I SAID WAIT A MINUTE, I DON'T REMEMBER ASKING AS A COUNTY -- AGAIN I AM NOT TRYING TO PICK ON SOMEONE, BUT I REMEMBER HIM ASKING FOR SOMETHING WAY ABOVE THAT AND THINKING -- HE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR THAT REQUEST, BUT I WOULD HAVE LIKED THE OPPORTUNITY. I DON'T THINK ANY US SHOULD GO IN HERE AND ASK WITHOUT THE COURT APPROVING IT IN ADVANCE THAT IS OVER $10,000. >>JUDGE CANALES: AS LONG AS IT IS THE COUNTY ASK. LET ME TELL YOU THAT WE CANNOT DO. OUR COURT DOES NOT TELL THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT A STATUTORILY CREATED ENTITY WHAT TOO DO. SO THE FACT -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE CAN ASK AND HELP. JUDGE JUDGE AS LONG AS WE DON'T EXPECTATION THAT'S IT WILL BE GRANTED. THAT GETS A LITTLE DIFFICULT. THE BUDGET PROCESS IS THE BEST TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT YOU CAN NOT RESTRICT ANY OF US FROM GOING IN THERE, AS LONG AS YOU DECLARE THAT YOU ARE ASKING NOT IN YOUR OFFICIAL CAPACITY.3 YOU CAN NOT RESTRICT THAT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I TH I DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE MAKE THAT SEPARATION. >>JUDGE CANALES: THEY WON'T. THAT IS WHY THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT LOOK WARD. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T THINK SO IT IS. IF ANYBODY GOES OVER THERE AND ASKS FOR SOMETHING FROM THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT, IT -- AND IT IS ABOVE $10,000 AND A COUNTY PROJECT, THEN THAT SHOULD GO THROUGH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT. IF HE ASKS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT RELATED I DON'T CARE. IF IT IS RELATED -- >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL NUECES COUNTY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: -- WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT PRIOR TO BUDGET BECAUSE BY THE TIME BUDGET COMES AROUND IT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE APPROVE THEIR TAX RATE. ANYTHING THAT WE DO WILL NOT AFFECT THEIR TAX RATE UNTIL THE FOLLOWING YEAR. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IT WILL IN THE SENSE THAT IF WE WAIT TO DO IT AT BUDGET AND THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE IT BECAUSE -- AGAIN, HE GOES OVER AND ASKS AND THEY SAY YES AND THEY THINK THAT COUNTY IS REQUESTING, IT IS ALREADY SPENT. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE KNOW WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO -- WE DO NOT. THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO IS ADVOCATE. YOU CAN NOT TELL THEM WHAT TO DO. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE ARE NOT TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO. NO ONE ON THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. >>JUDGE CANALES: IF WE HAVE A COUNTY COMMISSIONER ASK, THAT IS FINE. BUT ALL I AM SAYING THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN IS NOT A GOOD -- THE IS HE MANICS ARE NOT -- THEY ARE PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB AND DON'T YOU LET THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS AND NO LONGER OBJECT TO THE BASIC PREMISE. LET THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO WORK [03:25:01] ON THE LANGUAGE TO BE CLEAR. BECAUSE THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN HERE, IT IS DEFINITELY NOT CLEAR AS TO -- AS TO WHAT IT IS THAT IS HAPPENING. I AM NOT SURE, BUT I AM CERTAIN THERE IS A REASON HE IS PUTTING THIS FORWARD ALTHOUGH I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. DO OFF REASON? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: LET ME ADDRESS THAT THING FIRST. I THINK IT IS PRETTY CLEAR. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE MOTION WITH THE INTENT AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY CAN GO BACK AND WORDSMITH IT, IF YOU WANT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T KNOW WHAT I AM PASSING UNTIL IT IS CLEAR. NO HARM. NOTHING IS HAPPENING. NO ONE IS MAKING A REQUEST TODAY. BUT I WILL TELL THAT YOU, A, YOU CAN NOT -- STATUTORILY, WHAT IS ALLOWED -- IF WHAT YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT IS ALLOWED AND DEFINED IN THE STATUTE. NUMBER TWO, IF YOU WERE CONCERNED THAT SOMEONE IS GOING TO USE YOUR OFFICE IN AN INAPPROPRIATE WAY WITHOUT GETTING COUNTY COMMISSIONER APPROVAL, I CAN TELL THAT YOU DOES NOT HAPPEN OR WILL IT HAPPEN. BECAUSE OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY IS IN THE ROOM TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THOSE THINGS HAPPEN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT -- I THINK THAT YOU ARE MIXING THIS IDEA WITH A TAX RATE AND SOME SORT OF A ASK. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YOU BROUGHT UP TAX RATE. I DIDN'T BRING ANYTHING ABOUT TAX RATE. >>JUDGE CANALES: YEAH, DID Y YOU. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I SAID THE TAX RATE IS THE REASON THAT JOHNNY WENT UP BECAUSE THE COUNTY MADE ALL THESE ASKS. >>JUDGE CANALES: WOULD LIKE TO GET JOHNNY -- JOHNNY IS ON THE PHONE. THAT WOULD BE A MISREPRESENTATION WHAT JOHNNY SAID. >> PART OF THE REASON THAT THE TAX RATE WENT UP BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAD MADE A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR THEM OF FUNDS AND I DON'T REMEMBER ALL OF THE REQUESTS. NOW I -- I -- AT THAT POINT. I WAS KIND OF LIKE, WELL, NOTHING THAT JOHNNY CAN DO, RIGHT. TO ME. THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE POLICY THAT SAYS, ANY REQUEST, ANY COUNTY REQUEST FOR ANYTHING RELATED TO COUNTY BUSINESS SHOULD COME TO THE COMMISSION. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM TELLING YOU WE CAN NOT SATISFY THAT BECAUSE OF THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT POSITION. WHEN WE ARE IN AN EMERGENCY WHETHER IT IS OPIOID, WHETHER IT'S -- IT IS COVID-19, WHETHER IT IS AN ALTERNATE CARE SITE. DOLLARS -- IT IS UP TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO MAKE THAT DECISION IN WHICH CASE THEY DID, AND NO DOUBT AS AN EMERGENCY MANAGER WE MADE REQUESTS OF THE HOSPITAL DISTRICTS TO CONSIDER, AND THIS WOULD ABSOLUTELY INTERFERE WITH THAT OPPORTUNITY IN THE CASE OF AN EMERGENCY OR DECLARE DISASTER AND I WOULD NOT WANT THERE BE CONFUSION. I WILL ASK IF THAT IS THE INTENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNTY ASK LIKE A TRUCK OR A HITCH OR FOR A GENERATOR OR FOR A MOBILE UNIT OR FOR -- FOR A BUFFALO TURBINE, MOSQUITO PRAYER. THAT -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: $250,000 FOR A PROGRAM OR $250,000 FOR CONTRACTING. THEY ALL -- ALL ADDS UP, JUDGE. THEY SAY $8 MILLION THE LAST TIME, IT WAS $18 MILLION. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK YOU HAVE YOUR NUMBERS WRONG. JOHNNY IS ON THE LINE. I DON'T KNOW. I THINK THIS IS A LARGER DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS ACCURACY AND YOUR FACTS DON'T ADD UP. THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT APPROVES SO MANY ITEMS FOR THE COUNTY THAT ARE A PART OF THIS BUDGET. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE DON'T GET TO SEE. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, YOU DO. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YOU SEE IT AS PART OF THE BUDGET -- >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU ARE NOT IN CHARGE OF THAT. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: TAKING IT AS ASK -- JOHNNY, I ASKED HIM CLEARLY. JOHNNY, TELL ME ALL THE THINGS THAT WE ASKED FOR AND HE LISTED 10 TO 15 ITEMS AND I SAID, WHEN DID WE ASK FOR THAT? I WANT THE OPPORTUNITY -- >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST SO YOU KNOW -- YOU ARE AWARE THAT ALL HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD MEETINGS ARE SUBJECT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. THEY ARE NOTICED MEETINGS AND THEY ARE PARTICIPATE AND ONLINE -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THE POINT IS -- >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU FACT LIKE WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT WHAT IS ON THEIR AGENDA. THEY ARE AN INDEPENDENT ENTITY. YOU DO UNDERSTAND THAT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I UNDERSTAND AND I DON'T GO TO EVERY HOSPITAL DISTRICT COURT MEETING, PAUL GOES, TO MONITOR FOR ME BECAUSE I AM ON THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO VOTE AND I THINK THIS IS CLEAR TO MAKE AND CONSIDER A MOTION TO ANY REQUEST FROM THE NUECES COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT BE APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND THAT IS MY MOTION. >> I AM SAYING TO YOU AND JENNY, I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF GUIDANCE. IT WAS ALREADY SECONDED. WE WILL TAKE YOURS ON THE NEXT GO AROUND. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ SECONDED IT. JENNY, MY CONCERN IS -- COULD BE INHERENT CONFLICT AND I AM NOT AGAINST A POLICY TO BRING [03:30:01] ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WANT TO FRUITION AND IN FACT MANY TIMES THAT DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS WENT TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND SAID WE HAVE NO AWARENESS OF THAT. AND THERE COULD BE SITUATIONS THAT AS INDIVIDUALS, WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO GO OVER THERE AND SAY, HEY, WE THINK THAT YOU SHOULD INVEST IN X, Y AND Z TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE. HOW CAN WE GET CLARITY HERE TO ACHIEVE BOTH GOALS. >> NO POLICY HAS BEEN ARTICULATED, YOU KNOW. THIS IS THE POLICY THAT WE WANT TO HAVE SO WITHOUT HAVING THAT AND HAVING BEEN GIVEN THAT AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO VET IT, I -- I AM MAKING THE MOTION -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YOU CAN GO BACK AND WORDSMITH IT AND PUT THE INTENT ON THE RECORD WHAT THE INTENT IS AND SUBJECT TO THE WORDSMITHING OF THE ATTORNEY AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AS LONG AS THE INTENT STARTS NOW AND SHE GOES TO WORK IT OUT. I AM FINE. I AM FINE WITH WORKING SOMETHING OUT. >>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE. I WILL BE FOR A POLICY THAT GETS WRITTEN. NO PROBLEM. BUT IN THAT POLICY, THE LAW HAS TO BE FOLLOWED AND THAT IS ALL I AM SAYING. THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN HERE IS THAT THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS INCLUDING PERSONAL ADVOCACY, INCLUDING EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND DISASTER DECLARATION AND PROBABLY OTHERS THAT I HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING, BRENT, THE POLICY HAS TO BE DEVELOPED. WHAT WE WILL MOTION FOR IS THAT WE WANT A POLICY. >> IF JOE GONZALEZ GOES AND ASKS FOR SOMETHING THAT I AM NOT HERE AS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND NOT HERE ON BEHALF OF THE COURT. >>JUDGE CANALES: NEEDS TO SAY THAT IN A POLICY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM TRYING TO STYMIE THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: JOHNNY, YOU ARE NOW BEING MADE TO BE THE BAD GUY IN THE ROOM THAT YOU SAID WE PUT ALL OF THIS. CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE SOMEHOW -- SOME CONCERN THAT THESE PROGRAMS OUT THERE THAT SOMEBODY HAS ASKED YOU TO FUND OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IN THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION WE ALL ADVOCATED FOR JAIL DIVERSION FUNDED IN THE TUNE OF 6.5 MILLION IN THE LAST ADMINISTRATION AND PULLED BACK TODAY 2.5 MILLION. I AM NOT SURE WHERE JOE GETS THE $8 OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT THEY ARE EXISTING PROGRAMS THAT ARE CONTINUED TO BE CARRIED ON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE BEST THING I THINK THAT COULD COME FROM POLICY LIKE THIS WOULD BE TO HAVE THE NATURE OF THE REQUEST IDENTIFIED FOR THE BOARD. THEY -- THEY HAVE ASKED THAT THERE BE SOME CLARITY AROUND HOW OR THE MECHANISM THAT THE MONIES ARE ASKED FOR. BY THE MECHANISM, I MEAN BY -- IS IT A WHOLE COMMISSIONER'S COURT ASKING FOR FUNDS? IS IT THE INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS ASKING FOR FUNDS? IS IT THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR ASKING FOR FUNDS? ARE THEY NONE OF THOSE THINGS? I DON'T WANT TO GO TO THE NUMBERS BECAUSE I DISCUSSED THAT WITH YOU AT BUDGET TIME WITH FAIRLY GOOD DETAIL. BUT THE MATTER BEFORE THE BOARD REALLY HAS TO GIVE CLARITY TO THEM OF WHERE -- WHERE THE REQUEST IS COMING FROM BECAUSE THAT WAY THEY -- THEY CAN -- THEY CAN GO FORWARD WITH IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK THAT IS A FAIR ASSESSMENT. AND THAT IS CERTAINLY SUPPORTED BY ME AND IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN THE CASE WHEN WE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY. IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, WHEN ANY OF US HAVE GONE THERE. ONLY A FEW TIMES THAT WE HAVE GONE THERE, BUT WE HAVE GONE THERE TO ADVOCATE IN DIFFERENT ROLES. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. CAN -- WOULD YOUR MOTION TO BE DIRECT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT A POLICY? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I J JUST. >> THAT IS WHAT WE NEED. WE NEED TO HAVE A POLICY DRAFTED SO WE CAN VOTE ON IT. WE DO NOT VOTE ON SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I RESPECTFULLY BELIEVE THAT IT WAS ENOUGH AND THE INTENT WAS ENOUGH. SO -- I AM FINE TO LOOK AT WHAT YOU WANT TO DRAFT, BUT I DON'T -- I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO NOT MOVE FORWARD ON IT. I THINK -- IF YOU WANT TO ADD TO THE MOTION AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WILL DRAFT SOMETHING. BUT I WANT THE INTENT TO BE NOW AND I WANT THE INTENT TO BE OUT THERE SO THAT, YOU KNOW JOHNNY IS CLEAR AND HIS BOARD IS CLEAR AND I DON'T WANT IT TO STALLED BECAUSE TO WORDSMITH. WE GIVE YOU 100 THINGS EVERY TIME WE TURN AROUND. >> HOW FAST DO YOU THINK THIS CAN GET BACK TO US, JENNY? [03:35:04] I MEAN TO ME WAITING FOR -- WHEN IT IS PERFECTED RATHER THAN GIVE SOMETHING TO DECLARE IT POLICY WHEN IT IS NOT REALLY CLEAR. I THINK THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT IS GOOD POLICY. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT YOU CAN WORD. I DON'T THINK IT WILL TAKE MONTHS. I HOPE THAT NONE OF IT MAKES A RUN FOR IT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN AND GIVE ME $1 MILLION. IF THAT IS THE CASE WE WILL TRIP OVER YOU AND BE THE FIRST IN LINE. I THINK WE ALL GET IT AND WE ARE ALL SAYING WE GET IT AND AGREE FOR VARIOUS REASONS, BUT I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DO IT IS TO GIVE IT TO YOU, COME B BACK. HOPEFULLY HAVE A TIMELINE OF NEXT MEETING. AND THE LATEST, I CAN'T PICTURE THAT THIS WILL TAKE TOO MUCH. IT IS GOOD THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN. AND WE UNDERSTAND THE SPIRIT OF IT, AND I THINK THE JUDGE IS RIGHT WITH THE CONCERNS SHE BROUGHT UP AND LET'S WORK THOSE OUT INSTEAD OF ADOPTING IT NOW JUST BECAUSE. WE GET IT. I DON'T -- LIKE I SAID I DON'T THINK WE WILL GET A BIG RUN FOR THIS BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT TIME THAT -- THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK YOU CAN ADOPT THE INTENT AND THEN REVIEW -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WORK FROM THERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM. BECAUSE, I MEAN, YOU CAN NOT -- YOU CAN'T HAVE A POLICY THAT CONFLICTS WITH THE LAW -- ALL KINDS OF THINGS AND TO BE INTEREST WITH YOU, A CONFLICT OF INTEREST POLICY THAT -- WHICH IS SOMETHING IT FEELS LIKE AND ALL KINDS OF GOOD TEM PLATS OUT THERE. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING AND REITERATE THAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT SITS OWN ENTITY. YOU DON'T GET TO TELL THEM WHAT TO DO AND MAKE INDEPENDENT CHOICES. ALL THAT WE ARE SAYING HERE IS IF WE ARE LOOKING FOR AN ITEM OR FOR THEM TO FUND A PARTICULAR EMPLOYEE BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND AN ISSUE WE BRING IT TO COURT WHICH IS WHAT WE ALWAYS HAVE DONE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SOMETIMES THEY FEEL LIKE SOMEONE IS TRYING TO TELL THEM WHAT TO DO. >>JUDGE CANALES: SORRY THEY FEEL THAT WAY ABOUT YOU. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: POLICY OF ANY REQUESTS FOR MONEY FROM NUECES COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT OVER $10,000 TO BE APPROVED BY COMMISSIONERS COURT AND THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY RIGHT A POLICY THAT REFLECTS THAT. HOW ABOUT I ADD THAT TO THE MOTION. >> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. I AM GOING TO TACKLE ONE MORE AND TRY TO GET THAT 12:15 HARD BREAK. AND THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 11. WHICH IS -- UNLESS -- YOU KNOW, I SEE THAT ANNETTE IS HERE WITH THE GUEST. I AM HAPPY TO ADVANCE YOURS IF THE SHERIFF CAN COME. PLEASE LET ME DETOUR. [1. Discuss and consider funding source for replacement of courthouse access control system; Discuss and consider approving Texas DIR CPO-4494 proposal from Knight Security Systems.] DO NOT CONSIDER NUMBER 11 RIGHT NOW. MOVE TO B 1. THE ONE WE WILL END WITH BEFORE WE TAKE A SHORT BREAK. AND I AM GOING TO MAKE IT QUICKER THAN -- THEN I SAID. B 1. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR PLACEMENT OF COURTHOUSE ACCESS CONTROL SYSTEM. AND IT IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE APPROVING OF THE DIR FROM KNIGHT SECURITY SYSTEM AND ANNETTE WILL ADDRESS THIS FOR THE SHERIFF. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: FROM ARPA. >>JUDGE CANALES: SHE IS GOING TO TELL US BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A SOURCE JUST YET. >> THAT'S CORRECT. YES, IT IS A NEEDED NECESSITY FOR COURTHOUSE SECURITY, FOR THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS. >>JUDGE CANALES: A LITTLE CLOSER TO GET IT A LITTLE LOUDER. >> HOW IS THAT? >>JUDGE CANALES: MUCH BETTER, THANK YOU. >> WE ARE BRINGING THIS FORTH. WE BASED OUR PARAMETERS ON W WORKING FOR OUR NEW ACCESS CONTROL SYSTEM ON THE TRUE NORTH CONSULTING GROUPS RISK ASSESS AM. SO I HAVE KEVIN GARLIC HERE WITH KNIGHT SECURITY CONTROLS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNING THIS. >> OKAY. SO CLEARLY THIS IS A SYSTEM THAT IS NEEDED AND THIS IS A CONTRACT THAT WAS COMPETITIVELY PROCURED THROUGH A DIR CON CONTRACT. THE REAL ISSUES, COMMISSIONERS, LIES NOT WITH WHETHER WE SHOULD DO IT BUT LET'S TALK QUICKLY HOW WE CAN FUND IT. AND EACH OF US HAVE IN OUR CO 2021 $, MY WAY TO GET US HALFWAY HOME TO EACH OF US [03:40:01] COMMIT TO COURTHOUSE SECURITY TO THE TUNE OF $50,000 FROM THAT POT OF MONEY. AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE REMAINDER. THAT WOULD BE MY OPENING SUGGESTION THAT IT IS WORTH KEEPING HOME BASE SECURE FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE. I WAS GOING TO START OFF WITH A MUCH HIGHER AMOUNT. I AM SORRY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: TRYING TO WAVE TERESA DOWN. >> I WANT TO YOU KNOW THAT COURTHOUSE SECURITY HAS BEEN A PRIORITY FOR US AND TERESA JUST HAND THIS TO ME AND I PLEDGED LITERALLY EVERY DOLLAR ANY COUNTY JUDGE SPECIAL REVENUE OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS FOR COURTHOUSE SI KURT. AND IF I HAD -- SECURITY. IF I HAD IT MORE TO GIVE, THEN I WOULD AND SO MY QUESTION TO YOU ALL IS, WOULD YOU ALL BE AMENABLE TO GETTING US TO AT LEAST THE HALFWAY POINT WITH YOUR SPECIAL REVENUE FUND AND THEN I WILL PITCH TO DALE AND ASK A FEW MORE QUESTIONS HOW TO GET THE REST OF IT. IT IS ABOUT A HALF A MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT. SO, AGAIN, 250 HALFWAY HOME. $50,000 EACH FROM $480,000. I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER WAY TO SPEND IT THAN COURTHOUSE. WE ARE ALL IN IT TOGETHER AND A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF $50,000. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU KNOW, JUDGE, I WILL SUPPORT THAT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK -- TERESA AND DALE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: YES. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: HOW MUCH EVERYONE DO WE HAVE IN THE COURT HOUSE SECURITY FUNDS THAT WE COLLECT FROM THE FEES. ALL THE JPS COLLECT THE CO COURTHOUSE SECURITY FUNDS AND THE COUNTY ALONG THAT -- HOW MUCH MONEY IS THAT ON THAT ACCOUNT? >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK HE IS GOING TO LOOK IT UP FOR YOU. >> AND JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, DURING EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE CAN GIVE YOU A LAYOUT OF WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT WILL BE GREAT. WE WILL DO THAT. LET US TRY TO GET US TO THE DOLLARS AND CENTS. I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION, TERESA AND DALE, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER IDEAS FOR US FOR A FUNDING SOURCE. I HAD THE CURIOSITY IF WE APPROPRIATE CO 2021. THAT IT FITS PERFECTLY AND TECHNOLOGY THAT IS BEING UTILIZED WHAT WE CALL THAT -- THAT I. T. INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT, AGAIN, WE WILL HAVE THAT SORT OF DEEMED VETTED AND ELIGIBLE, BUT IN THE MEANTIME APPROPRIATE THE ARPA FUNDS MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE, THE CO 2021 FUNS TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE. DALE? >> $127,000 A YEAR IN SECURITY FROM JUSTICE OF THE PEACE AND OTHER COURTS THAT WILL HAVE FEE AND TRANSFER $150,000 FROM THE GENERAL FUND FOR OPERATING PURPOSES AND TRANSFER ROUGHLY ABOUT $274,000 OF INCOME. WE ARE PROJECTING ABOUT ADDS 130,000 FUND BALANCE WITH EXPENSEENSS OF $210,000. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: 200,000? >>JUDGE CANALES: IF I USED THAT -- IF THE COURT WERE TO USE THE $200,000 FUND BALANCE AND EACH COMMISSIONER PUT $50,000. AND I WILL MAKE UP THE DIFFERENTIAL. WOULD THAT BE MEANABLE COURT? WOULD YOU EXPECT THAT -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: ALL FIVE OF US. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL DO A LITTLE MORE BECAUSE IT IS THE DIFFERENTIAL. AND THE FUND BA BALANCE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM IN. THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY IS VITAL. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I MOVE THAT $50,000 EACH AND ALSO -- THE BALANCE OF THE CO COURTHOUSE SECURITY FEES OF 200,000 BE CONSIDERED. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHERE WE ARE SHORT, I WILL TAKE UP THE SL SLACK. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: TERESA I WILL DO A SIMILAR, LIKE, MOVE AROUND BECAUSE ONE OF MY FAVRTS THAT YOU GAVE ME AS I MENTIONED WAS ENCUMBERED AND FIXING TO START AND THE OTHER ONE IS NOT BECAUSE WE ARE SOME PROBLEMS. 2016 COS AND TAKE IT FROM THAT AND IF I WANT TO REFURBISH, I WILL REFURBISH LATER. LOOKING AT 19-21007 TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE RIGHT PAGE. BECAUSE THOSE ARE 16 COS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THE ONE THAT SAID THE CITY OF CC. IT IS ON HOLD. TAKE 50 ON THAT FOR MINE. AND IF I NEED TO REFURBISH AND BE 16 CO. [03:45:07] I DID -- AND I DON'T BUT THIS PROJECT STALLED. I CAN'T GET IT OFF DEAD CENTER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: TAKE EVERYTHING WE CAN GET. >> EXCUSE ME, THIS SECURITY SYSTEM, IS IT THE SAME THING THAT WE ARE LOOKING NOT FOR THE NEW SECURED SYSTEM THAT IS BEING DESIGNED? >> THIS WILL BE PART OF THE NEW FIRST-FLOOR SECURITY THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED BY RICHTER ARCHITECTS. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THE ACCESS CONTROLS. REALLY WHAT MAKES YOUR BADGES WORK. THIS IS WHAT WILL COMMUNICATE THE OPENING AND OR CLOSING OF DOORS AND KIOSKS. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I SEE. DOES IT HAVE TO BE APPROVED TODAY? CAN WE HOLD IT OFF FOR A FEW DAYS? >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A CONCERN YOU HAVE BUT WHAT I HAVE A CONCERN OF THAT WE ARE LATE TO THE GAME WE NEED TO GET AND MAKE SECURITY A PRIORITY AND HAS BEEN COMPETITIVELY PROCURED. AS YOU KNOW FROM NATIONAL NEWS ANY BID YOU HAVE TODAY IS THE BEST BID BECAUSE TOMORROW YOUR SUPPLY CHANGE HAPPENS. >> WHAT I WILL DO IS GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION I WILL MENTION MY CONCERNS TO YOU. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE CAN STILL DO IT TODAY THEN. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S CONSIDER THE FUNDING SOURCE AND I WILL CALL FOR THE QUESTION. I WILL ADDRESS WHATEVER ACTUAL SECURITY ISSUES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: ISSUES FINANCIAL THAT WE ARE NOT BUYING THE RIGHT THING? THAT IS WHAT I DON'T KNOW AND I DON'T MAYBE WE CAN JUST HOLD -- >>JUDGE CANALES: I WANT TO CALL FOR THE QUESTION. ANYTHING WE TALK ABOUT SECURITY HAS TO BE TALKED ABOUT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: UNLESS HE HAS -- WHAT I AM TRYING TO GET AT, WERE YOUR QUESTIONS RELATE TODAY THIS PURCHASE OR SOMETHING ELSE, COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. THAT IS WHAT I AM TRYING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE, NOT THAT WE ARE BUYING THE RIGHT STUFF. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM AFRAID FOR HIM TO ANSWER THAT QUE QUESTION. COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, WE WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE QUESTION TO FUND THE -- PROVIDE THE FUNDING SOURCE. THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO. ARE YOUR QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE FUNDING SEWERS? >> WHATEVER WE PLAN ON GET ALSO BE COMPETITOR WHERE IT WILL BE WORKING WITH THE NEW SYSTEM? >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, IT IS, SIR. THEY ARE SHAKING THEIR HEAD Y YES. ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN VETTED BY THE SHERIFF, THE I. T. DARYL IS SITTING HERE. WOULD NOT BE BROUGHT TO YOU IF NOT 100% READY TO BE VOTED ON. ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE ME A THUMBS UP. >> AN EXCELLENT QUESTION, COMMISSIONER. >>JUDGE CANALES: DARYL IS GIVING OUR THUMB'S UP. WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: EVERYBODY AGREED TO THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL MAKE THE MOTION AND CALL THE QUESTION. THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE. $50,000 FROM EACH COMMISSIONER OUT OF CO 2021 WHICH IS SPECIAL FUND -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MINE IS DIFFERENT. JUST SAY FROM EACH COMMISSIONER. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S RIGHT. FROM EACH COMMISSIONER. THAT IS BETTER. YOU WILL HAVE TO WORK, TERESA TO FIND THAT SOURCE. SHE KNOWS THE DIFFERENTIAL AND MINE FROM CO 2021 AND REMAINDER FROM THE CASH RESERVE FUND. SECURITY FUND. THE SECURITY FUND. THE FUND BALANCE OKAY. MOTION AND A SECOND. IN ALL FAVOR SIGNIFICANCE ANY ANY BY SAYING AYE. LET THE SHERIFF KNOW. >> I WILL. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> WERE YOU GOING TO VOTE ON THE SECOND PART OF THAT WHICH IS THE ACTUAL PROPOSAL? >> YES, I WILL ITEM -- WE GOT A APPROVE THE DIR PROJECT. KNIGHT SECURITY SYSTEMS. IN OTHER WORDS, NOW THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDING SOURCE WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT TO PURCHASE THE ITEM AND I HAVE GOT A MOTION AND I WILL MAKE [03:50:03] THAT SECOND MYSELF. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. ALL RIGHT. GREAT WELL, GREAT, I WILL SEE YOU GUYS BACK HERE AT 1:00. WE ARE TAKE A SHORT BREAK. [11. Discuss and consider placing on the list for use of American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds for purposes of assisting households in the rural areas of the county, three to four colonias, inspecting and replacing their septic gauges as required by Chapter 285 Texas Commission on Environmental Quality (TCEQ) On-Site Sewage Facilities Code Section 285.30.] >>JUDGE CANALES: BACK ON THE RECORD FOR 1:32. WERE AA TO ASSIST -- ARPA TO ASSIST HOUSEHOLDS AND REPLACING THEIR SEPTEMBER I HAVE IT GAUGES AND SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT. IT IS ACTUALLY A REQUIREMENT FROM TCQ ON ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITIES AND UNDER THE CODE. SO ON THIS ITEM, I WENT AHEAD AND VISITED WITH HAGGERTY THIS MORNING AND ASKED THAT THEY GO AHEAD AND DO PROPER VETTING. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WE ARE LOOKING AT. WE NEED COST ESTIMATES BUT THE IFR, THE INTERIM FINAL RULES SOME LATITUDE FOR HOUSEHOLDS. NORMALLY YOU DON'T SEE WORK BUT THE COUNTY SEWER SYSTEM WORK FOR THE SOME. BUT MY REQUEST HERE IS THAT I GUESS COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, PUT THIS ON. WE NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE INFO AS TO HOW MANY COST ESTIMATES. I DON'T KNOW IF PUBLIC WORKS WITH DO THE COST ESTIMATES FOR US AND, OF COURSE, HAGGERTY CAN GET IT. I AM SUPPORTIVE OF GETTING ANY SEPARATE GAUGES THAT NEED REPLACING AND/OR INSPECTING DONE BUT TO HAVE HAGGERTY REVIEW AND THE INDIVIDUAL HOUSE HOLD NOT THE COUNTY FUNCTION. >> MY DEAL IS HAVING THREE OR FOUR AS A PILOT PROGRAM. WOULDN'T BE ACTUALLY -- IT WOULD BE REPLACING MOST OF THE GAUGES THAT BY LAW -- THREE YEARS AGO PASSED THAT LAW WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE COUNTY AND THE CITY AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND PART OF THE PERMIT NOW. THEY HAVE TO BE THREE FEET OFF THE GROUND WITH THE GAUGES GO UNDER WATER. WHEN THEY GO UNDER WATER, THEY BACK FLOW. HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES AND OF COURSE PREVENTION OF DISEASE IN THE YOUNG CHILDREN AND ANIMALS THAT GO INSIDE THE HOUSE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I AM WORKING -- I ASKED RON TO AT THE ME WITH -- AND I HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE TO LOOK INTO IT THE DETAILS WHAT THIS WILL TAKE AND I WILL TAKE -- ONE IN MY PRECINCT AND THE OTHER PRECINCT AS THAT WANT TO LOOK AT ONE IN THEIR PRECINCTS, THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, AS A PILOT THING. I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO THIS ALREADY FOR, LIKE, THREE YEARS TRYING TO GET THOSE GAUGES SOMEHOW THREE FEET OFF THE GROUND. THAT'S WHY WE PASSED IT FOUR YEARS AGO. A SPECIFIC REQUEST. SOMETIMES PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT, YOU ARE KNOW, THE SEWAGE BACKFLOW IN THE YARD AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND THE KIDS PLAYING IN THE YARD AND THE DOGS. SO I THINK WE CAN -- I AM -- I AM GOING TO DO AN ASSESSMENT ON IT IN ONE OF MY COLONIAS AND TWO. AND SEE WHAT IT TAKES. IF A COMMISSIONER WANTS TO DO ONE IN THEIRS, THEY CAN. >>JUDGE CANALES: GREAT. IT IS A GOOD PROGRAM AND GREAT IF IT IS DEEMED ELIGIBLE. THE GOOD NEWS -- I WAS CONCERNED BECAUSE IT WAS AN INDIVIDUAL HOUSE HOLD. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SIGN WAIVERS, JUDGE, -- SIGNING WAIVERS THAT WE CAN REPLACE THEIR GAUGES BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. >>JUDGE CANALES: HOW WE DO THIS. HAGGERTY MEETS WITH US MELT PELL TIMES A WEEK. THEY CAN JUST REACH OUT TO YOU AND IF THEY ARE LOOKING FOR ACTION WE ADD IT TO OUR LIST AND CREATING A HUGE LIST AND I SHOULD HAVE SAID IT THIS MORNING BUT WE ARE HAVING A FORUM ON FRIDAY AND MAKE SURE THAT IT -- IT IS ON 2 TO 4:00 FOR THE AMERICAN RELIEF ACT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I WON'T BE HERE FRIDAY. >> WOMAN: I CAN ADD THIS TO THE LIST. >> I WILL DO WHATEVER I CAN TO GET THIS ROLLING FROM MY PART. >>JUDGE CANALES: FINDING ABOUT COST, QUALITY AND LOCATION SO HAGGERTY SAYS THIS QUALIFIES. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE THAT IN A MONTH OR SO. [03:55:04] SHOULD WE HAVE THAT TODAY AND ANY INFORMATION. MAYBE JUST ADDING IT TO THE LIST IS WHAT I WILL DO IF THAT IS ALL RIGHT WITH YOU. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: LET ME LOOK AT IT AND -- ONE MORE TIME AND THEN ENGINEER I AM WORKING WITH -- >>JUDGE CANALES: SOUNDS GOOD. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THEN I CAN BRING IT BACK TO BOARD. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL TABLE IT. MOTION TO TABLE AND A SECOND FOR OCTOBER 27. IF NEEDED, WE CAN BUMP IT TO THE FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. [12. Discuss and consider Juan Pimentel, Director of Public Works Department, to determine the requirements for professional services needed for 2021-2024 Capital Improvement Projects.] ITEM NUMBER 12 IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER JUAN PIMENTEL, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS TO DETERMINE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES NEEDED FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECTS. COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, YOU PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. AND DO YOU WANT TO OUTLINE AND JENNY WILL MAKE COMMENTS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MR. PIMENTE NRSHTION CHARGE OF THE MONEY FOR THE PROJECTS FROM 2021-2024. I THINK JUAN HAS A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF OUR COUNTY AND WILL DO US A GOOD JOB UPGRADING AND HE KNOW WHAT IS WE ARE SEEING IN THE COUNTY. AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PUBLIC WORKS AND MONEYLE KATEED FOR 2021-2024 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. >>JUDGE CANALES: JEN, WITH THE COMMENTS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN. JEN, YOU START. >> BASED ON WHAT WAS WRITTEN AND SAID, IT DOESN'T BELIEVE -- SOUNDS LIKE WE ALMOST HAVE A REQUEST TO INSTALL MR. PIMENTEL AS A PROJECT MANAGER FOR ALL COS BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT IS NOTICED AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS PROPER NOTICE FOR THAT PARTICULAR REQUEST. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I SEE HAD A LITTLE DIFFERENT, JENNY. I DON'T THINK ASKING TO BE A PROJECT MANAGER. I THINK THE -- THE PUBLIC WORKS WILL ACTUALLY DO ALL THE V VETTING. AS FAR AS THE ENGINEERING AGENCIES TO WORK WITH AND ALSO PROBABLY IF IT NEEDS TO GO TO RFQS OR WHATEVER THEY GO FOR YOU CAN DO IT AND SELECT THREE OR FOUR AGENCIES THAT CAN WORK WITH THIS PROJECT AND THE ENGINEERING OVERSEEING AND MAKING SURE THAT CONTRACTS PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO DO WHICH PROJECT. AND COULD BE -- AGENCIES THAT WILL DO THESE PROJECTS. HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE ON A ROTATION BASIS THAN HAVING -- STUCK WITH ONE AGENCY DOING EVERYTHING. I THINK -- I THINK THAT IS WHAT IT IS. I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE I AM JUST SAYING THE WRONG THINGS. BUT I AM SURE WHAT COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ HAD IN MIND. I DON'T THINK HE WAS WANTING TO BE A PROJECT MANAGER. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: EXCUSE ME, DONE THE COUNTY ENGINEER AUTOMATICALLY BECOME PROJECT MANAGER IF SOMETHING THAT WE ARE INVOLVED WITH AND WE WANT HIM TO TAKE CHARGE OF IT? AND WE DON'T SPECIFICALLY HAVE TO SAY, JUAN, YOU ARE THE PROJECT MANAGER AND YOU ARE THIS AND HAVE TO HIRE SOMEBODY TO BE A PROJECT MANAGER AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY HE HIRED AN ENGINEER. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE COURT MAKES THE DETERMINATION. MY CONCERN HERE IS THAT -- THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN IS THAT YOU SAY YOU WANT HIM TO DETERMINE THE REQUIREMENTS OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. NO COUNTY ENGINEER GETS TO DETERMINE THAT. THAT STATUTORILY CREATED. IN OTHER WORDS, MAYBE YOU MEANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT BUT THE PROFESSIONAL REQUIREMENTS -- OR THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES ARE DICTATED BY YOU LAW. WHETHER PETITION RFQ SOMETHING OR RFP SOMETHING. THAT AUTHORITY TO PROCURE COMES TO COURT AND WE GET IT AND WE DON'T SEE THAT AUTHORITY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THE AUTHORITY, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE CAN NOT DO THAT BECAUSE YOU WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE -- I AM NOT SAYING THIS PARTICULAR PERSON WOULD DO THIS, OTHERWISE WOULD YOU HAVE A DEPARTMENT HEAD PICKING AND CHOOSING WITHOUT GOING THROUGH PROPER QUALIFICATIONS IN AN OPEN WAY. THIS IS WHY WE DO IT WHY WE DO IT. JUAN ST. SITS ON EVERY SINGLE COMMITTEE AND HE IS INVOLVED IN EVERY SINGLE PROJECT. SOMETIMES THE COURT HAS DEEMED LIKE IN THE COAST. MR. MEARS REPRESENTS US ON MULTIPLE PROJECTS. AND A PROJECT MANAGER AND I AM [04:00:14] SURE OTHER PROJECT MANAGER THAT'S MIGHT DEVELOP OVER TIME WITH THE NATURE OF THE CONSTRUCTION, WE AS THE COMMISSIONERS COURT EVER AN ARCHITECT, ATTORNEY, OR CONSTRUCTION. WE RELY ON PUBLIC WORKS TO BRING US A RECOMMENDATION. THAT IS WHY EVERY AGENDA IT HAS PUBLIC WORKS ON IT. AND -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: AND I THINK -- >>JUDGE CANALES: HE WILL MAKE RECOMMENDATION. THAT IS NOT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE DO RIGHT NOW. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I THINK EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN, I GUESS -- THAT I MEAN. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, BUT I MEAN THIS IS WHAT -- LET HIM COME TO US AND SAY THIS IS GOING TO BE THE ENGINEER FOR THIS PROJECT. I DON'T -- I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY ELSE -- I AM SPEAKING FOR MYSELF CIP 21 TO BE A BUNDLE IF ONE NEARING COMPANY OR JUST TWO ENGINEERING COMPANIES. I THINK THERE IS ENOUGH WORK TO BE TO SHARE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO GIVE OR LOCAL PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO -- TO DO SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO HERE IN THE COUNTY. SO I THINK THAT IS THE WHOLE THING BEHIND THIS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT TIED ON TO ONE LOCAL ENGINEER. IF ONE WANTS TO COME BY AND SAY THIS PROJECT HERE I GOT THIS ENGINEER AND WENT AHEAD WITH PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND MET WITH HIM AND HAVE THREE ENGINEERING COMPANIES AND MEET WITH HIM AND PUT IN A RFQ. YOU ARE RIGHT, IT SHOULD GO TO HIM AND COME TO US. BUT THAT IS THE WAY I SEE IT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS OPEN AND THE OPPORTUNITY IS HERE. >> I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT NEEDS TO BE OPEN. WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING IS THE OPPOSITE OF OPEN. YOU ARE SUGGESTING THAT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, ON HIS OWN, PICK WHICH ENGINEERING COMPANIES HE WANTS TO WITH. AND THAT WOULD BE THE END OF IT. THE WAY WE DO IT -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT, JUDGE. WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT. BUT THE WAY WE DO IT REQUIRES A DEPARTMENT HEAD. WE AUTHORIZE THE METHOD OF CONCURMENT. WE AUTHORIZE WHO WILL BE PAR N PART OF IT. IT IS ENGINEERING JUAN PIMENTEL AND PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR DETERMINES THAT. HE MAKES A DETERMINATION. RFP FOR ROAD WHICH IS A BUNDLE, AN INTERESTING WORD AND WE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THAT. OUR COUNTY ENGINEER'S RECOMMEND DIETITIAN BUNDLE CERTAIN ROADS TO GET THE MAXIMUM EFFICIENCY IN PRICING. HE IS THE ONE THAT WORKS WITH -- WORKS WITH THE PROCUREMENT FOLKS TO HELP DESIGN HOW THOSE PROCUREMENT ALSO GO OUT. BUT WE ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO PEOPLE. JUAN P ISHTIONZMENTEL IS NOT ON THE LEDGE. AND AS FAR AS THE REQUIREMENTS GO WITH THE AGENDA, THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE SET OUT BY LAW AND WE DON'T GIVE THEM TO ANYBODY ELSE -- THEY TELL THEM TO US. THEY DON'T TELL US TO CHANGE THEM. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NEIGHBOR -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHAT WAS NOT NOTICED, JENNY, IN YOUR OPINION? I AM MISSING THE FIRST PART OF THE STORY. >>>. >> I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE GOAL AS FAR AS HOW IS IT DIFFERENT FROM THE NORMAL APPROPRIATE PROCEDURE. >>JUDGE CANALES: YEAH. >> AND SO, AFTER LISTENING TO COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE -- IT SOUNDS LIKE THE COMMISSIONER IS ASKING US TO FOLLOW THE NORMAL PROCEDURES. NOT TRYING TO EXCEED AUTHORITY. YOU STILL WANT IT TO COME TO THE COURT, YOU JUST WANT JUAN TO BE MORE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS? THAT IS JUST NOT WHAT WAS WRITTEN DOWN. THE WORDS SAY THEY WANT JUAN TO DETERMINE REQUIREMENTS FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND NOT CLEAR TO ME WHAT THE INTENT FROM THE WORDING IS. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE INTENT IS. TO FIRE SOMEONE WHO IS ALREADY WORKING FOR US, I WOULD LIKE FOR Y'ALL TO SAY THAT BECAUSE TEAMS THERE IS A REAL RUSE GOING ON AND IMPORTANT TO BE TRANSPARENT. WHAT IS IT ABOUT THE PROFESSIONAL REQUIREMENTS -- THAT IS HOW YOU WROTE IT THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. WHAT IS IT THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO ESTABLISH? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: COMMISSIONER I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY RUSE SO I AM NOT A PART OF THAT COMMENT. >> WOMAN: I AM TALKING TO COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. [04:05:06] >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE PERSONAL. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE? >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I AM TRYING TO GET ACCOMPLISHED AND APOLOGIZE IF WROTE THIS WRONG AND I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH HOW TO DO THINGS WITH COMMISSIONERS COURT. I AM A ROOKIE THERE. BUT I AM TRYING TO GET JUAN TO -- WE NEED TO LET HIM DO HIS JOB AS A COUNTY ENGINEER AND ANYTHING HE SEES THAT IS GOING TO AFFECT THE COUNTY, HE COMES TO US AND LET'S US KNOW -- >>JUDGE CANALES: HOW IS THAT NOT HAPPENING NOW? HOW IS THAT NOT THE CASE? THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS. HE GETS AN AGENDA BROUGHT FORTH. ANY ITEM HE HAS AUTHORITY TO RECOMMEND I MEAN, HE IS ON EVERY LIST. IT DOES NOT PASS THE SMELL FACTOR. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? >> JUDGE, I AM NOT TRYING TO GET PEOPLE FIRED AND I AM TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO DO THEIR JOB EVERY TIME YOU ASK ME WHEN MR. PIMENTEL COMES WITH ME. >>JUDGE CANALES: STICK WITH THE AGENDA ITEM. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM TRYING TO. PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM TO DO HIS JOB. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK HE IS DOING HIS JOB. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUAN, LET ME ASK YOU, ARE YOU INVOLVED IN THE DETERMINATION OF REQUIREMENTS FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR THE 2021-2024 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS? >> FOR THOSE, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE RFQS FOR SOME OF THOSE SERVICES. THAT PART I CAN'T RESPOND TO BECAUSE IT HAS NOT GONE OUT TO RFQ. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IN THE NORM ARE YOU INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING? >> NORMALLY, YES, SIR, I AM INVOLVED IN ALL THE PROJECTS. I AM NOT MISTAKEN, THE COMMISSIONER WAS LOOKING INTO THE 2021-205. '24 CIP PROJECTS TO GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY OR AUTHORITY TO KIND OF SELECT THEM INHOUSE AND THEN COME TO COMMISSIONERS COURT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION. >>JUDGE CANALES: WOULD YOU BYPASS A RFQ AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. >> THAT WILL BE YOU THAT WE SELECT -- WE HAVE STREET PROJECTS, RIGHT. AND HAVE THEM WORK PREVIOUSLY WITH US AND DETERMINE WHO WE CAN SELECT FROM OUR OFFICE SO IT IS FROM OUR OFFICE AND WE BRING THIS TO COURT FROM OUR OFFICE TO Y'ALL AND SAY THIS IS WHO WE RECOMMEND FOR THESE PROJECTS VERSUS. SOME OF YOU YOU WILL HAVE TO GO OUT FOR RFQS AND CERTAIN ONES TO BRING TO Y'ALL AND RECOMMEND. KIND OF LIKE WE HAVE ALREADY DONE. >>JUDGE CANALES: HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU DID ON THE ROOF? WHEN YOU GOT YOUR PARTICULAR PERSON SOLICITED. HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT, JUAN? >> IN THIS CASE, JUDGE, IF -- I THINK WE ARE TALKING OF 2 2021-2024. SO IN THIS CASE 2021 CIP MO MONIES. IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN 2019 MONIES, CORRECT? >>JUDGE CANALES: NO. THAT IS WHERE IT GETS VERY CONFUSING. YOU ARE SAYING THAT -- JUST SO YOU KNOW AS WE WELL KNOW WHEN WE SAY "MONIES" WE TALK ABOUT CO. WE ISSUED TWO COST. FOR 2019, WE USE ALL OF THOSE FUNDS BUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, AS YOU KNOW, HAS A TIMELINE WHEN CERTAIN PHASES OF CERTAIN PROJECTS WILL TAKE INTO EFFECT LET'S TAKE HILL STOP. AND IN 2022 DESIGN TAKES PLACE AND CONSTRUCTION UNTIL UNTIL 2024. I AM HYPOTHEMCALLY MAKING THIS UP. SO NOT NECESSARILY. IT IS ALL ONE PLAN. THE IDEA IS DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE THAT'S COME OVER TIME BUT ONE MAN. >> THAT'S CORRECT. TWO DIFFERENT MONIES HERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU WANT MORE CONTROL OVER WHO YOU SELECT? >> WHAT -- I GUESS WHAT THE COMMISSIONER IS ASKING THAT WHAT WE DO IS HAVE PUBLIC WORKS RECOMMEND, LIKE, AN ENGINEERING FIRM OR PROJECT MANAGEMENT FIRM AND BRING IT TO COURT FOR A SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL PROJECT. >>JUDGE CANALES: HOW ARE YOU BEING HINDERED FLORIDA DOING THAT RIGHT NOW? >> I THINK COMMISSIONER WAS TRYING TO BRING IT TO COURT. [04:10:06] >>JUDGE CANALES: DO YOU THAT ALREADY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NOT REALLY. >>JUDGE CANALES: ARE YOU BEING PREVENTED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION? >> SO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SELECT FOR 2021 FOR 2024 PROJECT MANAGERS FOR THOSE SPECIFIC PROJECTS. DO WE HAVE THAT AUTHORITY RIGHT NOW? JUDGE JAWJZ PROJECT THAT NEEDS A MANAGER, I WOULD SAY BRING IT TO COURT AND LET'S SEE. LET'S TAKE I. B. MCKEE. 2021. SCAT MEARS A PROJECT MANAGER. HE GOT BROUGHT TO COURT AS A PROJECT MANAGER FOR THAT. DIFFERENT THAN A PROGRAM MANAGER AS YOU KNOW. AND PEOPLE USE THOSE WORDS INTERCHANGE ME. I AM CONCERNED WHAT I AM HEARING AND WHAT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY DIDN'T HEAR ME SAY THAT THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AS YOU KNOW IS UNDER REQUEST INCURRED OVER REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL AND COURTHOUSE, ANNEX, JUVENILE -- >> 2019 MONIES SET ASIDE FOR PROJECT MANAGERS. >>JUDGE CANALES: NOW WE ARE GETTING SOMEWHERE. SO WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING IN THE FUTURE YOU THINK THAT SOMEHOW PROGRAM MANAGEMENT WAS ONLY APPROPRIATED IN 2019. >> I THINK THE WAY FOR 2020 AND 2021. WE VICE PRESIDENT SELECTED FOR -- >>JUDGE CANALES: ARE YOU TRYING TO CHANGE THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT FROM 2021 AND 2022. >>JUDGE CANALES: SEEMS LIKE YOU HAD A DISCUSSION OF IT AND -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HAPPY TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. I DON'T THINK IT IS GERMANE OF THE AGENDA ITEM. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, BRENT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WANT ADDITIONAL PEOPLE FOR PROGRAM MANAGEMENT. I HAVE NO OBJECTION BUT WE WILL BE DOING WORK FOREVER AND I DIDN'T VOTE FOR THAT CONTRACT THINKING IT WAS IN PERPETUITY. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT IS NOT IN PERPETUITY. IT IS A PROGRAM. YOU UNDERSTAND? THAT IS THE WHOLE THING ABOUT A PROGRAM. DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO NOT HAVE PROGRAM A PROGRAM ADMINISTERED BY A MINISTER. WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND SUCH A DISCONNECT WHEN WE TALK OF THE SOFTWARE AND THE MANAGEMENT OF IT. HAVING TWO PROGRAM MANAGEMENT COMPANIES MANAGING THE SAME PROJECT WOULD BE WASTE OF TAXPAYER MONEY CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND SHE TELLS ME THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO USE LAND ONLY AS A PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE PROJECTS SH SHORTCOMING. I HAD NO INTENTION TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND I AM BRINGING UP AND YOU SAYS IT GERMANE, I HAVEN'T HAD A CONVERSATION WITH JUAN AND I FEEL WE NEED A CONVERSATION AND HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE THAT ALLOWS AN ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE OTHER PEOPLE DO PROGRAM MANAGEMENT ON PROJECTS NOT YET DEFINED AND INTO DUPLICITY. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS FINE. FOR PROGRAM MANAGERS -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I HAD THIS CONVERSATION LAST WEEK AND I DIDN'T PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. I WAS WORKING ON IT WITH JENNY. >>JUDGE CANALES: THERE IS A CONNECTION. YOU SEE WHY THEY ARE TRYING TO DO THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT IS HARD TO SPEAK TRANSPARENCY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: BECAUSE I DON'T -- >>JUDGE CANALES: WE HAVE GOT TO BE HONEST WITH THE PUBLIC AND I DON'T THINK HONESTY -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I KNOW YOU DON'T THINK THAT, BUT I -- I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A FEELING THERE IS ANY LACK OF TRANSPARENCY. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DO. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YOU CAN HAVE YOUR OPINION AND I CAN HAVE MINE. BUT COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ TRIED TO EXPLAIN WHAT HE PUT FORTH. JUAN TRIED TO EXPLAIN THAT. I THINK IT IS TRANSPARENT. IF THIS IS ALL ABOUT CHANGING PROGRAM MANAGERS, HE WOULD HAVE SAID SO. ALL HE WANTED HE WANTED JUAN MORE INVOLVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WANT TO KNOW HOW JUAN IS NOT INVOLVED, COMMISSIONER. I WANT TO KNOW HOW JUAN IS NOT INVOLVED AND HE IS A COUNTY ENGINEER AND ON EVERY SINGLE PROJECT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM NOT SAYING HE WASN'T. I DON'T THINK IT IS FAIR TO KEEP SAYING THERE WAS NOT TRANSPARENCY. YOU ASK QUESTIONS AND HE IS ANSWERING THEM. >> THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY AND FORGIVE ME, JUAN, YOU ARE NOW UNFORTUNATELY IN THE MIDDLE SOMETHING THAT YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF. WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO IS GIVE YOU ULTIMATE CONTROL, AND WHAT I AM SAYING THAT CONTROL IS BEST PLACED WITH THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE PUBLIC. [04:15:01] THE REASON YOU DON'T GET TO CHOOSE EVERY SINGLE ENGINEER AND RATHER RECOMMEND, THAT THE IS BEST MOST OPEN, MOST PUBLIC, MOST TRANSPARENT WAY TO DO IT AND PRODETECTIVES YOU AND THE COURT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NOBODY IS SUGGESTING THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT IS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUAN WOULD HAVE TO BRING HIS RECOMMENDATIONS IN AN OPEN AND TRANSPARENT FASHION. >>JUDGE CANALES: BRENT, THE REASON IT WON'T CREATE TRANSPARENCY AND WE DO OUR AUTHORITY FOR PROCUREMENT. WE CHOOSE AS A COURT TO GET RF Q INSTEAD ENGINEER A, B AND C. THE RFQ ALLOWS FOR THE RIGHT TYPE OF PROCUREMENT TO TAKE PLACE AND THE RIGHT COPE TO BE DEVELOPED. ALL OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE SCOPE OF WORK. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: LIKE YOU SAID, THIS IS NOT EVERYTHING DIFFERENT THAN WE HAVE NOT DONE. YOU USED AN EXAMPLE. >>JUDGE CANALES: DON'T MAKE IT APPARENT TO HIM AND DON'T GIVE HIM APPARENT AUTHORITY OTHER THAN WHAT IS DONE ON A DAY-TO-DAY PRACTICE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: RIGHT. I DON'T SEE ANY APPARENT AUTHORITY AND ADDITIONAL AUTHORITY OTHER THAN HIM BEING INVOLVED. I DON'T KNOW THE REASON WHY IN IS ON THE AGENDA -- >>JUDGE CANALES: COME ON. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I HAVE NOT TALKED TO ANYBODY ABOUT THIS AGENDA ITEM UNTIL RIGHT THIS MINUTE. AND IF YOU WANT CHECK IT OUT -- I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU THINK EVERYTHING IS A CONSPIRACY -- >>JUDGE CANALES: IT'S NOT HARD TO SEE -- IT IS NOT COMING FROM YOU, BRENT, BUT NOT HARD TO SAY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: DON'T SAY "THEY." WO >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM SORRY, I DON'T MEAN YOU. I MEAN YOU. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS I SEE HOW HARD YOU HAVE FOUGHT TO DEPEND THE COMPANIES THAT WORK FOR US -- THAT DO WORK FOR US.EVERY TIME -- TO BRING UP A DEFECT, SOMETHING GOING ON PROJECT WITH THE COMPANIES, YOU HAVE QUESTION HIM. YOU KIND OF BELITTLE HIM. >>JUDGE CANALES: NO. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC AND LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT YOU WANT TO LET THESE COMPANIES DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO WITH NO RESOURCE? AND THE ONE THAT IS IN CHARGE AND LET US KNOW IS JUAN PIMENTAL, THE COUNTY ENGINEER. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND YOUR BACKGROUND. UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS THE OPPOSITE. I -- I AM AN ADVOCATE OF OVERSIGHT. I BELIEVE THAT THIS COUNTY NEEDS OVERSIGHT FROM THE WORK THAT WE DO. THAT IS WHY PROGRAM MANAGEMENT, WHICH YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND. IT IS CONCEPT NOR HAVE YOU PARTICIPATED IN ANY THOSE MEETINGS TO UNDERSTAND THE VALUE THAT THEY BRING TO THIS COURT. THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT EVEN FROM OUR OWN INTERNAL WORK. IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN ADDITION TO OUR ENGINEERING COMPANY WHICH IS WHY MR. PIMENTAL, THE GENTLEMAN YOU HAVE SO MUCH FAITH IN RECOMMENDED THIS COMPANY TO PUT FORTH A PROGRAM. BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WANT IS TO HAVE YOUR -- THE GUY YOU HAVE FAITH IN AND RELATIONSHIP WITH TO CHOOSE THESE COMPANY WITHOUT COURT INTRODUCTION. THE REASON IT IS SO IMPORTANT FOR ME TO SAY THAT WE NEED OVERSIGHT BECAUSE JUAN NEEDS TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT HE HAS EXPERTS IN MULTIPLE DISCIPLINES OF ENGINEERING TO HELP WRITE THE SCOPES FOR THE WORK. AND WHEN WE CHOOSE SOMEBODY, WE ARE CHOOSING THEM BASED ON WHAT CRITERIA? THE RFQ ALLOWS US TO FROM A FRAMETHAT PROTECTS ITS COURT, TAXPAYER BASE. AND YOU ARE TRYING GET RID OF THAT AND I DON'T LIKE THAT. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: JUDGE, I AM TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU IN MY EYES WHAT I SEE YOU DOING. >>JUDGE CANALES: I REALIZE YOU HAVE ALL KIND OF THOUGHTS, NONE OF WHICH HAVE ARE VALIDATED OR SUBSTANTIATED OR OTHER THAN WHAT YOU DECIDE YOU FEEL. BUT I WILL TELL THOUGHT OVERSIGHT WE HAVE HERE FOR ENGINEERING HAS CREATED TREMENDOUS VALUE, A LACK OF CHANGE ORDERS, AND AT AN UNPRECEDENTED TIME PROTECTED THIS CATEGORY IN ALL OF ITS ENGINEERING WORK. WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO IS GET RID OF OVERSIGHT. IF A F THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT TO VOTE FOR, THAT IS OKAY. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I WANT OVERSIGHT, JUDGE. I WANT SOMEBODY IN CHARGE FOR THE COUNTY'S BEST INTEREST. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT YOU CONTROL. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I WANT SOMEBODY TO TELL YOU, JUDGE, I HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE SUBMITTALS. I HAVE GOTTEN NO DRAWINGS, SO HOW CAN WE GIVE DRAWINGS WHEN THERE ARE NONE TO GIVE AND YOU KEEP DEFENDING YOUR PEOPLE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO BUT THIS ITEM. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: ONLY A PERSON THAT CHOOSES TO SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE. >>JUDGE CANALES: UNFORTUNATELY -- UNFORTUNATELY, YOU JUST BRING ALL KINDS OF, LIKE, BIZARRE TANGENTIAL COMMENTS. [04:20:04] YOUR COUNTY ENGINEER WHO IS STANDING HERE IN FRONT OF US IS INVOLVED IN EVERY SINGLE PROJECT THAT THIS COUNTY HAS WHEN IT COMES TO INFRAS INFRASTRUCTURE. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. AND WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE A SUGGESTION. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: [INAUDIBLE] >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT? >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: WAS JUAN INCLUDED IN THE ENGINEERING CONTRACTS. WAS HE INVOLVED IN ALL OF THEM. AND RECOMMENDED IN THIS COURT WHEN YOU ARE NOT HERE BUT SOMEHOW YOU WANT TO BECOME AN EXPERT. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I WISH YOU TRY TO BELITTLE PEOPLE, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE ABM CONTRACT OFF THIS TAKEN ISSUE WITH -- JUAN PIMENTAL NOT ONLY REVIEWED IT BUT RECOMMENDED IT. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: THAT IS FINE. >>JUDGE CANALES: SO THE GUY THAT YOU THINK SHOULD BE IN CHARGE MADE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO DON'T BRING ME INTO IT. THAT WAS PUBLIC WORKS. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: IN ALL THE PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE DONE, ONE PROJECT THAT YOU HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN? >> THERE IS SEVERAL THAT I AM NOT INVOLVED IN AND SOME THAT I AM INVOLVED IN. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: WHAT HAVE YOU NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN? >> HARD TO SAY THIS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE WERE IN A PUBLIC SETTING. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND WITH REGARDS TO IT, COMMISSIONER, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE -- MY OFFICE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. AND SOMETIMES WE KIND OF TEND TO HEAR COMES THINGS THAT -- FOR EXAMPLE, -- LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. LAST WEEK IN THE ANNEX, THE CHILLERS WENT OUT. I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT. I DIDN'T GET A CALL ABOUT IT. AND THIS IS THE BRAND-NEW CHILLERS AT THE ANNEX. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: THERE YOU GO. >> I DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL 8:00 THE NEXT MORNING. ROCKY TEXTED ME AT 1:00 IN THE MORNING WORKING ON THE BR BRAND-NEW CHILLER THAT'S GOT INSTALLED AND I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT UNTIL THE FOLLOWING DAY. SO WITH REGARDS TO KNOWING SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, NO. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE -- THAT ARE NOT BEING UPDATED BY -- BY -- BY OUR PROJECT MANAGERS. AND -- AND THAT IS WHAT I NEED. I NEED SOMEBODY THAT CAN UPDATE ME AT 1:00 IN THE MORNING OR 12:00 AT NIGHT OR 6:00 IN THE AFTERNOON OR 7:00 IN THE AFTERNOON. THEY NEED TO CALL ME AND CONTACT ME. NOT ONLY THAT ONE SPECIFIC BUT OTHER SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN THIS SITUATION WHERE I WON'T GET TOLD. AND ANOTHER ONE -- AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THIS THE BEAMS THAT WERE HANGING ABM HUNG EQUIPMENT OFF A BEAM AND IT BROKE AND DAMAGED THE BEAM AND WE WEREN'T NOTIFIED. LAST WEEK I WAS TOLD THAT THAT BEAM WAS FIXED WITHOUT EVEN NOTIFYING ME. SOMEBODY FIXED THE BEAM THAT WAS DAMAGED BY A CONTRACTOR AFTER THE FACT. TO ME THAT IS JUST UNACC UNACCEPTABLE. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH YOU PUTTING -- SOUNDS LIKE YOU NEED TO TALK TO YOUR SHERIFF TO INFORM YOU WHEN YOU GUYS HAVE THE JAIL. >> NO, NO -- JUDGE -- THE JAIL HAS NOTHING TO DO -- >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, IT DOES. >> WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR. I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR. A PROJECT MANAGER WHO IS OVERSEEING THE PROJECT -- >>JUDGE CANALES: ARE YOU SAYING YOU DON'T HAVE COMMUNICATION WITH THEM? CAN YOU LOWER YOUR VOICE WHEN YOU ARE SPEAKING TO ME. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: LET HIM SPEAK, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM THE PRESIDING OFFICER. >> JUDGE, I DO HAVE COMMUNICATIONS WITH HIM; HOWEVER, I GUESS -- NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. THEY DON'T HAVE COMMUNICATION FOR ME. BY THE TIME I KNOW IT THE NEXT DAY WHEN SOMETHING COMES UP OR AFTER TWO OR THREE DAYS THAT I FIND OUT THEY FIXED A BEAM THAT WAS BROKEN AND NOBODY TOLD ME ABOUT IT AND FIXING TO REPAIR THE BEAM. >>JUDGE CANALES: ARE YOU SAYING WITHIN THAT CONTRACT, THE CONTRACTORS MAKE REGULAR PAIRS AND NOT LETTING YOU KNOW ABOUT IT ON THE SPOT? >> THE CONTRACTOR AND THE NUECES PROJECT MANAGER DID NOT LET ME KNOW THEY WERE FIXING A BEAN. >> I. B. MACK GEE OR HORACE CALDWELL. >>JUDGE CANALES: EXCUSE ME. IT WOULD BE NICE IT I COULD FINISH. IF THEY HAVE A PROJECT THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON. AND THEY MAKE A REPAIR, DO YOU HEAR ABOUT IT ON THE SPOT THAT THAT REPAIR IS BEING MADE OR THAT ISSUE? WE HAVE CONTRACTS. WHAT ABOUT ANY OF OUR ROADS. IF THEY MAKE A CHANGE TO [04:25:06] AGGREGATE -- YOU SEEM TO BE FOCUSED ON THIS ONE CONTRACT. WHAT ABOUT ALL OF YOUR COUNTY CONTRACTS, DO YOU HAVE THAT SAME KIND -- BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE IMPRESSIVE IF YOU LITERALLY HAVE THAT MANY CONVERSATIONS ON THAT MANY DETAILS BECAUSE I TELL YOU ONE THING, THE JAIL ELEVATOR BROKE A FEW DAYS AGO, RIGHT. WE HAD A JAIL ELEVATOR BREAK. I DIDN'T GET A CALL EITHER. YOUR OFFICE -- THE SHERIFF CALLED ME. BUT YOU HAD A MAN ON THE JOB AARON. I ASKED WHETHER YOU KNEW ABOUT IT. THEY SAID THAT YOU DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT AT THAT MOMENT. AND WE MADE THAT CIRCLE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAD THAT KIND OF COMMUNICATION. ARE WE TALK ABOUT COMMUNICATION HERE? IS THAT WHAT IT IS -- BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE AN INTERNAL ISSUE THAT YOU CAN SHORE UP VERY EASILY BY A QUICK PHONE CALL AND MEETING. >> WHAT IS THAT AGAIN? >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, I AM GOING PACK TO THE AGENDA ITEM. CLEARLY WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR HERE IS TO MOVE FORWARD. AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME LEGAL ISSUE THAT'S NEED TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD. AND IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WE CAN. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: JUDGE, I AM AGREEING THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY LEGAL ISSUES AND YOU ARE THE ONE THAT RECOMMENDED THE COMPANY TO LAWYER UP. YOU ARE ALWAYS THE ONE TO PREPARE THEMSELVES FOR A LAWSUIT DURING KOMSZ COMMISSIONER. I MEAN, MY GOODNESS, JUDGE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER, I WOULD REALLY LIKE IT IF WE COULD JUST STICK TO THE AGENDA ITEM HERE. LET'S DO THAT. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: IT IS PART OF THE AGENDA, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: OFF PERSONAL BIZARRE OBSESSION WITH ME AND IT IS BIZARRE AND INAPPROPRIATE, UNPROFESSIONAL AND WE WILL MOVE ON, SIR. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WORK ON SOMETHING BASICALLY WHAT I BROUGHT UP EARLIER THAT -- >>JUDGE CANALES: IF THE GOAL IS TO BRING IN DIFFERENT PROJECT -- >> IF THE GOAL IS TO BRING IN DIFFERENT PROJECT MANAGERS THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS NOTICED. SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO WORK ON TO PUT AN AGENDA ITEM, I CAN DO THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU NEED A PROJECT. HELLO, YOU NEED A PROJECT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: GOT TO HAVE SOME POLICY THAT SAYS YOU CAN DO THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU DON'T NEED A POLICY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: TWO WAYS. ONE, A RFQ AND THE OTHER HIRE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND DO YOU THAT ALL THE TIME. NOTHING SAYS BY LAWS THERE ONLY GOING TO BE ONE WAY. BY LAW, ONE OR TWO WAYS. WHEN SOMEBODY LEARNS WHO DO IT, YOU CAN FOLLOW THE LAW. I THINK THAT WE DO THAT. I THINK WE SHOULD -- KIND OF MAKE IT A LITTLE CLEARER. >> PROGRAM MANAGEMENT FOR ITEMS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN BROUGHT TO COURT A PROPER THING TO DO. WE HAVE THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE COURTHOUSE, THE ANNEX. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I AM NOT TALK ABOUT THAT 21 -- WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT LEGAL -- WE ARE USING A DATE. WE ALREADY HAVE A PROGRAM MANAGER, COMMISSIONER. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: '21 TO '24 -- >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER, WE ARE DOING AN OUTSIDE ENVELOPE OF THIS BUILDING. IT WILL NOT FINISH UNTIL 2022. WE HAVE A PROGRAM MANAGER ON THAT PROJECT RIGHT NOW, OKAY. WE HAVE A PROGRAM MANAGER FOR MULTIPLE PROJECTS INSIDE THE COURTHOUSE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT, YOU ARE RIGHT. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT I AM SAYING TO YOU. THAT IS WHY I AM GETTING -- YOU GUYS -- I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE THINKING IN YOUR MIND AND ANYBODY WITH ANY COMMON SENSE -- YOU ARE TRYING TO GET RID OF PEOPLE WHO ARE PROVIDING GOOD WORK AND OVERSIGHT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: TRY TO GIVE LOCAL PEOPLE A CHANCE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THEY ARE LOCAL. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: BACK TO THE PROGRAM MANAGER SINCE I BRING IT UP. I HAVE NO IDEA TO GET RID OF -- I WOULD LIKE.PEO >>JUDGE CANALES: FOR NEW PROJECTS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: ACCORDING TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS NO THE BEEN OBLIGATED YET. WE HAVEN'T TAKEN A VOTE ON THAT AND PROJECTS THAT NOT BEEN ASSIGNED ACCORDING TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. WE NEED TO RERESEARCH. SINCE YOU ARE LUMPING IN SAYING PEOPLE -- WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PROGRAM MANAGEMENT. I AM NOT TRYING TO GET RID OF ANYONE. YOU MAY NOT HAVE BEEN DIRECTING THAT TO ME, BUT YOU SAID -- SINCE I WAS THE PROGRAM MANAGER CONVERSATION. L AN HAS DONE A GOOD JOB. I WANT TO EXPAND MY HORIZONS. WORK IT AS AN AGENDA ITEM. WE GOT AHEAD OF OURSELVES AND [04:30:02] THIS CAME INTO THE DISCUSSION TODAY. AGAIN, I THINK LEN HAS DONE A GREAT JOB. I AM HAPPY. AND I SAID THIS BEFORE AND I HAD MY ISSUES AT THE BEGINNING AND WORK THEM OUT. I WORKED THEM OUT. ON PROJECTS, THEY ARE VERY REASONABLE AND WANT SOMETHING FOR THE COURT TO CONSIDER. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WANT TOO CLEAR UP THIS BUSINESS OF BEING LOCAL OR NOT. I AM SAYING TO YOU LOCAL -- ALL OF THE MAJOR ENGINEERING FIRMS. I WISH TO GOD THAT WE WERE BIG ENOUGH TO HAVE -- AND BE THE EPI CENTERS OF BIG HEADQ HEADQUARTERS. WHEN ALL OF OUR HEADQUARTERS ARE NOT HERE ANYMORE. THERE IS A REASON WHY. THE NATURE OF THE BEAST. EVERYBODY WE WORK WITH HAS A LOCAL COMPONENT TO THEM. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DIDN'T SAY THAT, BUT TO EXPAND THE HORIZON. I KNOW DIFFERENT PEOPLE ARE SAYING DIFFERENT THINGS. I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT I AM SAYING. IF THERE IS NOT A LOCAL FIRM THAT CAN DO THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT THE WAY WE WANT THEM TO. THAT IS OKAY AS LONG AS THEY INCLUDE LOCAL FIRMS AS A COMPONENT. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WANT THE BEST FIRMS. WE WANT THE PEOPLE WHO DO THE BEST JOBS AND COLLABORATE WITH OUR LOCAL WORKFORCE AND OUR LOCAL SUB -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T CONSIDER LAND NOT LOCAL. THEY HAVE A LOCAL OFFICE HERE. THEY HAVE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THEIR LOCAL OFFICE -- AGAIN, THIS ISN'T -- ANYWAY -- >>JUDGE CANALES: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE AND THIS IS WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT LEGALLY. I AM CONCERN THEY ARE TRYING TO MARRY US TO A DATE. NOT ABOUT A DATE, IT IS A PROJECT. FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT ON HILLTOP, PROGRAM MANAGEMENT ON THE M. E., PROGRAM MANAGEMENT ON ANIMAL CARE, THE COURTHOUSE, ANNEX, JUVENILE AND FAIRGROUNDS. THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT ON. IF THERE ARE NEW PROJECTS THAT GET DEVELOPED, WHO KNOWS WHAT THOSE ARE IN THE FUTURE AND MAYBE SOME THAT ARE ALREADY THERE THEN, YES, THIS COURT COULD CHOOSE NEW PROGRAM MANAGEMENT IF IT DESIRES. BUT ADDS TO WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE, WE ARE MARRIED TO THAT CONTRACT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MAYBE DISTINCTION THAT MAYBE WE ARE FRYING WORK OUT WE ARE MARRIED FOR LAND OF THE 2021 CO. I AM NOT DRAWING A LINE IN THE SAND SAYING I AM 100% RIGHT. AFTER ASKING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ABOUT THE CONTRACT. SHE TOLD ME PRELIMINARY WE ARE NOT MARRIED IN THE PROJECT IN THE 2021. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AGREE. IF THEY ARE NOT ALREADY ASSIGNED. BUT MOST OF THE BIG ONES HAVE WORK AUTHORIZATION AND MAKE SENSE. AGAIN, I THINK THIS BALL OF WAX COMES BECAUSE OVERNIGHT. OVERSIGHT IS -- OVERSIGHT. OVERSIGHT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE I HOPE THIS COURT UNDERSTANDS TO NOT HAVE OVERSIGHT IS TO ALLOW THIS COURT TO BE, YOU KNOW, SUBJECT TO MOVING HAVING THE BEST ENGINEERING AVAILABLE. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE COLLABORATIVE AND BOLSTERING THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IN ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT. AND UNFORTUNATELY IT IS A MEANS TO ATTACK GOOD FIRMS WHO ARE DOING GOOD WORK BECAUSE SOMEBODY WANTS TO HIRING WHO THEY WANT TO HIRE. IT IS WRONG. COMPLETELY WRONG. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: GOES TO A BIGGER ISSUE AND WE HAVE OTHER THINGS. THE REASON WE ARE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A SMALL ENGINEERING FIRM WORKING HERE. WE ALWAYS HEAR AND TALK ABOUT A BIG LAW FIRM OR RELATIVELY BIG IN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WE HAVE A SMALL ENGINEERING FIRM HERE.3 THIS IS GROWING PAINS FOR US UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE WE ARE STUCK SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE WHERE YOU HAVE ONE COUNTY ENGINEER WHICH WAS THE PRACTICE AND ALL WE HAD. WE ARE SLOWLY GROWING. I THINK JUAN EVENTUALLY WANTS TO GET TO THE PLACE WHERE WE HAVE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE ENGINEERING DESIGN WORK, THE TRAFFIC PROPOSALS, THE PLAT WORK, ALL SEPARATELY WHERE WE CAN DO IT INHOUSE AND FARM OUT THE SMALLER DETAILS AND WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO WORK THAT. IF WE DON'T HIRE OUTSIDE FIRMS AND WHERE WE ARE STUCK WITH IT AND I HOPE THAT WE REMEMBER THIS AS WE LOOK FORWARD IN THE FUTURE AND -- IN SUPPLYING OUR ENGINEERING FIRM HERE WITH MORE QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS. I THINK YOU ARE ON YOUR WAY AND HIRED LJ, AND THAT IS THE DIRECTION WE THINK WE SHOULD GO. BUT WE ARE STUCK HERE BECAUSE OF THAT. AND I JUST WANT TO WEIGH IN. I AM GLAD TO HEAR WHAT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY SAYS BECAUSE I FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT LAND. I THINK FRUSTRATION ALL AROUND WHEN YOU LOOK AT A PROJECT AND IT IS NOT WORKING THE WAY YOU [04:35:01] WANT. UP FOR US TO COMMUNICATION, AND DO THAT. IF NOT, WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON OUR OWN. BUT EXPECT THE OTHERS TO DO THE SAME. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER WE SUBMITTED TO -- COMMITTED TO AND WE DON'T CHANGE THAT. IF THERE IS ROOM IN THE FUTURE OTHER PROJECTS, THEN WE HAVE OUR DISCUSSION. WE HAVE OUR DISCUSSION TO SAY LET'S LOOK AT DO WE NEED TO GO OUT FOR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. AND I HEAR AND I SEE WHAT COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ IS EXPECTING OR WANTING. JUAN, IF YOU ARE NOT GETTING THAT, I THINK YOU ARE NOW. IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE. I THINK IT IS BETTER. BECAUSE THERE WAS A LEARNING PROCESS WITH YOU COMING IN AS WELL WITH YOUR SKILL SET. SO I THINK WE ARE ALL GETTING THERE. BUT TO CHANGE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE ALREADY VOTED ON, I AM NOT IN OF. IF WE COMMITTED TO A GIRL, WE NEED TO STAY WITH IT. OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE WITH OTHER PROJECTS WE HAVEN'T DONE, I AM ALL EARS AND OPEN TO THAT PROCESS. HOW WE DO THAT, WE GOT TO FIGURE IT OUT. LIKE I SAID, WE ARE STUCK IN THE MIDDLE. UNTIL WE GET INTO THAT BIGGER ROLE WE ARE GOING TO STUCK WHO IS GOING TO MANAGE. WHO IS GOING TO BE -- WHO WILL DO PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND PROGRAM MANAGEMENT. DOES THAT FALL UNDER COUNTY ENGINEER. AND THAT MAY BE THE BEIOUS, BUT I HOPE THAT WE REALIZE THIS IS A LOT OF GROWING PAINS AND I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF SWITCHING WHAT WE ALREADY -- SWITCHING THAT WILL BE MORE PROBLEMS. BUT ANYTHING OPEN FOR THE TAIL END OF '21 AND '24. LET'S LOOK AT IT IN THE FUTURE ONCE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WORKS OUT HOW THAT PROCESS SHOULD BE SET. THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHT. NOW THAT WE HAVE A THOROUGH DISCUSSION HERE -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE TABLE THIS, JUDGE. OR BRING IT BACK ONCE JENNY COMES BACK WITH KIND OF A RECOMMENDATION. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I SECOND THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. [13. Ratify the hiring of Attorney David Z. Conoly, P.C. to represent Nueces County regarding the purchase of a road easement and right-of-way near the Suburban Acres subdivision; approve engagement letter; and related matters.] ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS THE RATIFYING THE HIRING OF DAVID CONOLY REGARDING THE ROAD EASEMENT NEAR SUBURBAN ACRES SUBDI SUBDIVISION. APPROVE THE ENGAGEMENT LETTER AND RELATED MATTERS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUST AN EXPLANATION. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL LET JENNY GIVE THAT. . 2 >> THIS IS ONE, COMMISSIONER THAT IS NOT OUTSIDE OF MY OWN EXPERTISE AND I RELY ON OUR OTHER EXPERTISE AND WE DO NOT HAVE A REAL ESTATE ATTORNEY WHO WOULD HAVE THIS ABLE. SO WE ARE ASKING TO BRING IN CONOLY WHO HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND YEARS UNDER HIS BELT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NO QUESTION ABOUT HIS CREDENTIALS. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AND A [14. Discuss and consider start time for Commissioner Court meetings for remainder of 2021 calendar year.] SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF SAYING AYE. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. YOU WANT TO REMOVE THE START TIME FROM 9 A.M. TO 8:30 A.M. >> YES, MA'AM, MY QUESTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: A SECOND TO THE MOTION. ANYONE ELSE HAVE AN ISSUE OF THAT. WE ARE LITERALLY THE MOST ACCOMMODATING COURT IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS. WE GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO MOVE MEETINGS AND DO EVER EVERYTHING. I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS ON BOARD WITH THIS. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: JUDGE, I AM NOT GETTING GOOD RECEPTION HERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: ARE YOU ON BOARD WITH THE 8:30 A.M. START? >> BETTER OFF AT 9:00. >>JUDGE CANALES: WILL YOU ADVICE WIT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY ABOUT THIS. ONE THAT IS HAVING DIFFICULTIES WITH THAT, COMMISSIONER. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE CAN WAIT, I GUESS. I WAS JUST HOPING TO GET IT STARTED AT 8:30 SINCE THE MEETINGS ARE GOING LONGER AND GET STARTED QUICKER. >>JUDGE CANALES: WILL YOU VISIT THIS. I WILL TABLE THIS UNTIL OCTOBER 27. A MOTION AND A SECOND.3 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. LET ME MAKE SURE THERE IS NOT ANOTHER -- AFTER 14, KARA, DO YOU SHOW ITEM B I WILL BRING MICHAEL BACK UP FOR PURCHASING FOR C 1 AND C 2 BOTH OF THEM ARE AWARDS FOR DIFFERENT. ONE IS COPY PAPER. [1. Discuss and award IFB No. 3179-21 Copy Paper, NCR Paper and Envelopes.] START WITH THIS, ITEM 1. >> THIS IS DISCUSS FOR COPY PAPER. WE RECEIVED THREE BIDS. WE ARE RECOMMENDING AWARD TO GULF COAST PAPER COMPANY, INC. THEY HAD THE LOWEST PRICE. AND THEY BID ALL OF THE ITEMS. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, LOWEST PRICE IS A BIG WINNER. [04:40:02] >> THE OTHER VENDORS DID NOT BID ALL THE ITEMS. >>JUDGE CANALES: COULD YOU RECOMMEND? >> WE DID BUSINESS WITH GULF COAST PAPER ON PAPER AND THEY HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB. >>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION AND [2. Discuss and award IFB No. 3180-21 Aggregate Type PB Grade 4S, LRA.] A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THE AGGREGATE, THE TYPE PB GRADE 4 SLRA. >> WE AWARD VULCAN OF THE COUNTY AND JUAN PIMENTAL APPROVES THAT VENDOR. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S CORRECT? A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS AWARD? MOTION? HOW ABOUT A SECOND. I WILL SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. OKAY. THAT TAKES CARE OF MICHAEL'S. AND HUMAN RESOURCES ASK SDWROUL COME IN. PROBABLY MOVING QUICKER THAN [2. Discuss and consider reclassifying the Veterans Service Officer position in the Veterans Service Department (#1275) from a Pay Group 24 to a Pay Group 26 effective 10/2/2021.] SHE THOUGHT. GET HER IN HERE. WE WILL GO TO THE RECLASS OF THE VETERAN SERVICE OFFICERS POSITION IN THE VETERANS SERVICE OFFICE FROM 24 TO 26 FOR THE DIRECTOR BECAUSE AS OF OCTOBER 1 -- WE COULDN'T DO THIS BEFORE BECAUSE OF THE VETERANS CEMETERY AND THE CHANGE IN PAY SO HE CAN BE THE ULTIMATE HEAD OF THE VETERANS CEMETERY. AND THE PAYMENT FROM THIS WOULD COME FROM THE ADMIN BUDGET OF THE VETERAN CEMETERY WHICH I BELIEVE IS $10,000 DALE. >> $7500 -- >> $75,000. >>JUDGE CANALES: SORRY, $75,000, BUT IS THE DELTA ABOUT $10,000? >> NOT THAT SIGNIFICANT BUT CLOSE. >>JUDGE CANALES: CLOSE. OKAY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED MORE EXPLANATION. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: 75,000 MORE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE WHOLE BUDGET 175,000. WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THAT THE FUNDING SOURCE WILL COME FROM THAT PILE OF -- IN THAT BUCKET OF DOLLARS, BUT FOR THE CHANGE IN JOB THAT OCCURRED ON OCTOBER 1. WE WILL WAIT -- WE WILL WAIT FOR JULY HERE. HEY, JULIE. WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER 2. BASICALLY THE RECLASS FOR THE POSITION OF VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER. IT GOES FROM PAY GROUP 24 TO 26. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO PROVIDE ANY MORE BACK GROUND. I TRIED TO DO MY BEST THERE. >> OF COURSE HE IS GOING TO BE TAKING OVER THE CEMETERY THAT HE IS ALREADY DONE ALL THE WORK FOR. WHERE WE HAVE -- WE HIRED ON THE NEW EMPLOYEES ALREADY. IT TOOK OFF ON OCTOBER 1 AS SCHEDULED. AND SO WE JUST NEED TO INCREASE HIS PAY FOR TAKING ON THE NEW DUTIES. IT IS PART OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE MONIES THAT ARE ACCOUNTED FOR WITH THE CEM CEMETERY. CONTRACT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I ASKED HOW MUCH AND I THINK THE DELTA IS -- NOT QUITE 10,000, BUT AL ALMOST. >> NO, I DON'T THINK IT WAS THAT MUCH, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: DALE SAID HE DIDN'T REMEMBER. AND MAYBE NOT 10 -- 24 TO 26 WOULDN'T BE $10,000 FOR THE YEAR. >>JUDGE CANALES: HOW MUCH IS IT? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THINKING $500. >>JUDGE CANALES: IF YOU LOOK IT UP. BUT BOTTOM LINE MOVING FROM THE 24 TO THE 26. >> I THINK IT IS ABOUT $4,000 JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR JULIE AT THIS TIME ON THIS QUESTION? THIS WAS CONTEMPLATED. IT IS JUST NOW TO ACTUALLY DO IT. >> CORRECT. >>JUDGE CANALES: IS THERE A MOTION FOR SUCH A MOVE? ALL RIGHT. AND I WILL SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, GET US THAT TOTAL HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. >> OKAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: NUMBER 3 IS THE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE POSITION OF COMMISSIONERS COURT MANAGER. LAST WE SPEAK HERE IN COURT, WE SIDE, JULIE, BRING US A DETAILED JOB DESCRIPTION. MANY COMMISSIONERS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT AND TO GIVE THEIR FINAL THOUGHTS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CAN YOU GIVE ME NEW ONE. I BROUGHT MY OLD ONE. I NEED THE ONE THAT YOU HAVE THE CORRECTIONS ON. >>JUDGE CANALES: TELL YOU W WHAT, CAN YOU SEND SOMEBODY TO DO THAT AND WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 4 AND COME BACK TO 3. GET IT FOR ALL OF US TO MAKE [4. Discuss and consider deletion of the Principal Engineer position (pay group 42) in Road and Bridge Fund (#0120); Ratify creation of a Mechanical/Environmental Engineer position (pay group 40) in Road and Bridge Fund (#0120).] SURE WE ARE LOOKING AT THE SAME ONE. >> OKAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE REASON ITEM 4 IS NOT HARD BECAUSE IT WAS ACTUALLY -- THIS IS WHAT WE CALL A CLEANUP OR A CLARIFICATION. [04:45:01] IT IS TO CONSIDER THE DELETION OF ONE POSITION AND CREATE THE -- ANOTHER NAMED POSITION. THIS IS TO ACCOMMODATE FRANCIS. WHEN WE POST THIS POSITION, IT WAS A MECHANICAL ENGINEER NOT A PRINCIPAL ENGINEER. THAT'S CORRECT, JULIE? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> NOTHING MORE THAN A REAT THE AT THE SAME TIME -- NOT MORE THAN A RESTATEMENT OF WHAT IS TRUE? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>JUDGE CANALES: NO MONEY DIFFERENTIAL HERE? >> NO. >>JUDGE CANALES: WITH THAT, COURT, A MOTION TO CLEAN IT UP. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SO MOVED OF. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: SECOND. AND SAYS DIFFERENT PAY GROUPS IS THE PAY THE SAME? >> NOT GOING TO COST US MORE, DECREASE IN PAY. SAVINGS. >>JUDGE CANALES: IS THERE SUCH A THING AS A PRINCIPAL ENGINEER POSITION AVAILABLE? ALL OUR POSITIONS ARE FILLED. >> THE PRINCIPAL ENGINEERING POSITION GOES AWAY AND BECAME THE MECHANICAL ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER. >>JUDGE CANALES: GOES AWAY? >> REPLACES THE OTHER ONE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS ACCURATE WHAT WE PROMISED HIM IN THE 30ESING. >> WE POSTED IT CORRECTLY AND HE SECOND THE OPINION WITH THE SALARY THAT GOES ALONG WITH WHAT WE ARE OFFERING HIM. >>JUDGE CANALES: I CONSIDER THIS A CLEANUP OF OUR -- >> YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: -- WHAT TRANSPIRED. CAN I HAVE A MOTION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO MOVED. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL NOSE FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. SO WE ARE GOING TO BACK TO ITEM [3. Discuss and consider the position of Commissioners Court Manager, job description, and posting.] NUMBER 3, AND JULIE WILL GET US A COPY OF THAT. AND -- AND THEN JUST TO KIND OF GET THE COURT AWARE THE LAST ITEMS -- AFTER THIS ITEM IT WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND WE HAVE TWO, MAYBE THREE ITEMS MAXIMUM. SO FOR THE CLERK, I DON'T THINK IT WILL TAKE THAT LONG. BUT JUST TO TELL THAT YOU IS WHERE WE ARE. AND AM I MISSING ONE? TERESA? AM I -- >> REVISED JOB DESCRIPTION IS WHAT IS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA. >>JUDGE CANALES: SO IT IS THE RIGHT ONE. >> IT IS THE RIGHT ONE. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHEN CHESNEY SAID THAT, IT IS THE ONE THAT IS ATTACHED. YOU SHOULD BE THE SAME. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I BROUGHT THE RIGHT ONE. >> JULIE, IT LOOKS GOOD. THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS NEEDED TO BE ADDED. SOME THAT WERE STRICKEN OUT, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, MINOR CHANGES, BUT I THINK FOR ME, THE SPIRIT OF WHAT THE POSITION SHOULD INCLUDE IS IN THERE. >> OKAY, GREAT, THANK YOU. >> THAT IS JUST ME. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK THE LANGUAGE IS VERY GOOD. MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT -- I MEAN, IT IS A REAL COURT -- THIS IS A REAL NUECES COUNTY MANAGER'S POSITION. AND I WANT THE COURT TO KNOW IT DEPENDS WHAT YOU ARE EXPECTING, WHAT YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE, IF YOU WANT SOMEBODY TO DO THE SAME EXACT THING THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THE DESCRIPTION 37 IF YOU WERE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO RUN A COUNTY, LIKE A REAL COUNTY MANAGER POSITION AND NEEDS A STAFF AND SALARY -- OUR SALARY AND HOW WE SCOPED IT IS NOT WORKING WITH THAT POSITION. AND IF WE ARE LOOKING AT A REAL COUNTY MANAGER. IF YOU WERE TALKING OF DEALING WITH DEPARTMENTS AND BUDGET, THAT IS WAY MORE THAN WHAT THIS POSITION IS, WITH MORE STAFF. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I DON'T THINK WE ARE THAT BIG YET, JUDGE, MY OPINION. I MEAN -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JULIE, I DON'T SEE THE SUPERVISORY LANGUAGE IN HERE WE TALKED ABOUT. THE FIRST ONE WAS ORGANIZATIONAL RELATIONSHIPS. I HAD SUPERVISORS WHO REPORT -- REPORT TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND -- SORRY, BOTTOM OF PAGE 1, SPORES COMMISSIONERS COURT SUPERVISES DEPARTMENT HEADS AND KEEPS THE COURT ON ISSUES. I AM LOOKING FOR THAT SUPERVISORY LANGUAGE THAT WE ALL HAD AGREED TO ON HERE AND I AM NOT -- >> PAGE 4 AS PART OF THE ESSENTIAL DUTIES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: 4, OKAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: MIDDLE OF THE PAGE. >> YOU DIDN'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAD TO PUT IT IN OTHER PLACES. LET ME FIND THAT. >> PAGE 4, MIDDLE OF THE PAGE, UNDER, LIKE, MIDDLE RIGHT PAST COORDINATION. [04:50:01] >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WILL SAY DEPARTMENT HEADS AND -- >> ACTUALLY -- PROVIDES ORGANIZATIONAL LEADERSHIP, SUPERVISION AND MANAGEMENT TO ALL APPOINTED DEPARTMENT HEADS. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT SAYS THAT DOWN THERE. >> ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE PERFORMANCE OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS. THE FOURTH ITEM ON THAT PAGE I SEE IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS, I MEAN, A DIFFERENT SCOPE THAN WHAT WE HAD BEFORE AND YOU ARE JUST -- WE NEED TO THINK OF RESTRUCTURING IF THIS IS WHAT THE COURT WANTS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, YOU HAVE TO CRAWL BEFORE YOU. WE HAVE A GREAT COURT ADMINISTRATION STAFF AND REALLY CAPABLE WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND GET THIS PERSON IN AND MAKE HE OR HER MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ACCORDINGLY TO SEE WHAT HE OR SHE NEEDS TO DO TO MAKE THE JOB BETTER AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY. >>JUDGE CANALES. I DIDN'T WANT TYNER TO LEAVE BUT PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY. I WANT SOMETHING MORE IN HERE. I JUST -- >>JUDGE CANALES: I LIKE THIS JOB DESCRIPTION. I JUST THINK NOT FOR THE SALARY WE ARE OFFERING. WE ARE LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. A PERSON WHO WILL BE -- THIS PERSON IS RUNNING YOUR COUNTY THE WAY YOU DO THE JOB DESCRIPTION WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS REPORTING TO THEM. THAT IS AN IMPOSSIBILITY WITH WHAT WE HAVE GOT RIGHT NOW. , AND I AM ALL BEFORE THE WALK BEFORE YOU CRAWL -- CRAWL BEFORE YOU WALK, BUT -- SORRY, I WAS INGING TO. CRAWL BEFORE YOU WALK BUT I WANT TO GO INTO THIS EYES WIDE OPEN AND UNDERSTAND THIS IS A DIFFERENT FIGURE THAN WHAT WE HAVE GOT HERE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I UNDERSTAND. >>JUDGE CANALES: I LIKE THAT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: BACK TO SUPERVISOR RESPONSIBILITIES. THE SPECIFIC CATEGORIES. AND PROFESSIONAL STAFF AND ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS BECAUSE TO ME -- IF I AM LOOKING WHAT MY SUPERVISORY RESPONSIBILITIES ARE THAT THEY HAVE TO BE IN THERE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AND LEAST IN THE AREA SUPERVISORY RESPONSIBILITY THAT IS THE CATEGORY THAT COVERS IT FOR ME AND DEPARTMENT HEADS AND IF WE ADD THAT IN THERE WILL TAKE IT THROUGHOUT. AND I CAN -- >> ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS OR APPOINTED DEPARTMENT HEADS? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: OBVIOUSLY NOT ELECTED OFFI OFFICIALS. BUT IF YOU WANT TO SAY ALL APPOINTED DEPARTMENT HEADS, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD CLARIFICATION, JULIE, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. ALL APPOINTED DEPARTMENT HEADS, YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT IS DEFINITELY -- JUST SO -- FOR OUR AUDIENCE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE N NOW. >> DIFFERENT. ABSOLUTELY. DIFFERENT WHEN WE PROPOSED IT AND 100%. >> BEFORE THEY DISCIPLINE, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE TO THE COURT. SO THE COURT CAN'T BE SAID TO DELEGATE FOR GIVE THEIR AUTHORITY AWAY TO THIS PERSON. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: ON A DEPARTMENT HEAD. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK WHAT WE DISCUSSED THAT DAY THAT WE HAVE THE FINAL SAY WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THAT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IS WHAT WE ALL AGREED TO ON THE RECORD, AND IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND ADD THE WORDS "AND ALL APPOINTED DEPARTMENT HEADS". THAT IS THE AMENDMENT THAT I WOULD MAKE. >>JUDGE CANALES: HOW DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF IT BEING SUCH A DIFFERENT SCOPE. BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO WANT TO POST THIS. AND POST AND JUST SAY PAID TO BE NEGOTIATED OR DO WE HAVE -- THE COURT HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT ONCE WE CREATE THIS NEW JOB DESCRIPTION, IT DOES CREATE A WHOLE BIG BALL OF WAX WHAT THIS PERSON -- WHO WE WOULD ATTRACT. >> THIS POSITION ALREADY HAS A BUDGET. >> THAT IS SET TO RECORD A ADMINISTRATOR'S BUDGET. AND WE ARE BIG. AND THE 8TH LARGEST. >> ACTUAL LET SAME POSITION. [04:55:03] WE DID ADD TO THE JOB POSITION, AND SO WE DO HAVE IT BUDGETED FOR ALREADY. BUT IF WE NEED TO CHANGE THE PAY, THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DECIDE. HAD. >>JUDGE CANALES: ANYBODY ELSE LOOKED IT UP WHAT OTHER CITY MANAGERS IN FT. BEND, GALV GALVESTON. >> FORT BEND DOESN'T THIS POSITION. >>JUDGE CANALES: HIDALGO. >> CEV A COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT IS THEIR SALARY, PAY GRADE, COMPARISON. >> I BELIEVE IT IS LESS AND REQUIRING ONLY A BACHELOR'S DEGREE. IT IS JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAT IT IS MORE SO OF A -- OF A BUDGET PURSE. >>JUDGE CANALES: BUDGET PURSE AND NOT REALLY A MANAGER. >> ALL OF THE JOB DUTIES ARE BUDGET. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHT. RIGHT NOW OUR MISSION RIGHT NOW TO S TO SIMPLY APPROVE THIS JOB DESCRIPTION. WHAT IS THE -- ANY HE HAD ITS THAT NEED TO BE OTHER THAN WHAT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY JUST MENTIONED? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NO. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHAT IS -- >> ONE, THREE -- $119,000. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT WOULD BE -- HAVE YOU CHECKED TO SEE WHAT THE RIGHT AMOUNT WILL BE OR IS IT HARD TO KNOW? >> WE ALL KNOW THAT OUR POSITIONS HERE ON NUECES COUNTY. >>JUDGE CANALES: OUR LAWYERS, FOR INSTANCE, AT THE TOP LEVEL -- >> ONE OF THE TOP PAID POSITION AT NUECES COUNTY. >> QUARTER MILLION IF YOU LOOK AT A SALARY SURVEY. AND. AND THE CITIES. 200,000. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CITIES WITH HALF A BILLION BUDGET PROBABLY. >> THIS IS WICHITA FALLS. FORT WORTH IS IN THERE. WACO. CARROLLTON, FRISCO -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CITIES HAVE MORE RESPONSIBILITY THAN COUNTIES DO. >> SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THERE AND WHERE WE ARE. NOT TO DO WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR THE BACKGROUND OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND YOU WANT THIS PERSON TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND CREATE A GOOD BAR TO ACHIEVE, AND I JUST WANT TO BE VERY HONEST THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US GO HERE IN THIS DIRECTION BECAUSE WILL SET US UP FOR FUTURE SUCCESS. AND I FEEL IT IS NOT CON MESS RAT WITH THE JOB DESCRIPTION. I I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GUIDE YOU OTHER THAN THE JOB DESCRIPTION LOOKS GOOD WITH THE CHANGES, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK -- AND TO HAVE A TOP LEVEL EXECUTIVE IS NOT GOING TO. >> JULIE, SEPTEMBER YOU A LINK AND SENT IT TO THE COURT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JULIE, I THOUGHT WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING SOME AUTHORITY OVER THE AGENDA AND HELPING DO THAT. IS THAT IN THERE AND DID I JUST MISS IT? >> I THOUGHT I PUT IT IN THERE, YES. IT'S IN THERE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM TRYING -- >> EVERYCEASE THE AGENDA SUPPLEMENTATION AND THE CREATION OF MANUALS WITH COMMISSIONERS COURT. >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMENSURATE WITH WHAT THEY DO. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THE REST OF IT SEEMS FINE IF YOU WANT TO CLEAN THAT UP FIRST. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S TAKE THAT UP FIRST. THAT PART OF THE MOTION. YOUR EDITS. >> ON PAGE TWO TO SUPERVISE PROFESSIONAL CLERICAL STAFF. TAKE AS A MOTION. A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THAT PART, JULIE. >> GREAT, THANK YOU. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK WE NEEDED A VOTE. THAT WAS THE VOLT ON THE [05:00:01] AMENDMENT AND WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE WHOLE JOB DESCRIPTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: THOUGHT WE WOULD DO IT ALL AT ONE. I WILL BE HAPPY TO DO IT THIS WAY. IF YOU GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT MOTION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: SECOND FROM SOMEBODY? A YOU WILL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. I SEE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING HERE. YOU HAVE THE THIRD PIECE WHICH IS THE POSTING. SO I THINK IT IS THE WILL OF THE COURT TO GET POSTING. RIGHT. WE WANT TO POST THIS SO WE CAN START -- WE ALSO WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU -- YOU DO A GOOD JOB OF THIS ANYWAY BUT NICE FOR US TO SAY IT VERBALLY TO GET IT OUT TO THE FOUR WINDS, RIGHT. WE LOVE ALL OF THOSE PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATIONS, THE ALL THE PLACES BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT SOMEBODY AND A PERSON CAN BE OUTSIDE THE BACK YARD AND GET THE VERY BEST PERSON. >> I WILL MAKE THESE CHANGES AND GET IT OUT FOR SIGNATURES AND I WILL GET IS POSTED. >>JUDGE CANALES: TERESA. WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME OF THE POSTING. >> NOW. >> I WANT DESCRIPTIONS ON THE JOB POSTINGS. >>JUDGE CANALES: SOME TIME THIS WEEK. >> HOPEFULLY SO, YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S DISCUSS THIS -- WE CAN'T AVOID THE -- WHAT IS THE REALITY. ANY -- IF ANY OF US -- ANY OF US, WE JUST DID IT FOR VETERAN CEMETERY, IF ANYONE OF US TAKES A JOB AND CHANGES IT SUBSTANTIALLY OR SUBSTANTIVELY, WE EXPECT THERE TO BE A DIFFERENT XHEM RAT, YOU KNOW -- COMMENSURATE BUDGET FOR THAT. WE CHANGE THE PAY GRADE. AT LEAST SOME DISCUSSION FROM THE COURT TO RECOGNIZE THAT 119 IS NONEAR WHERE THIS POSITION REALLY IS. IT IS JUST NOT. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO THAT QUICKLY TO GET YOU THE RIGHT ANSWER WITHOUT GUESSING. I AM WILLING TO HEAR ANY IDEAS THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS, BUT THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN AND WE ARE NOT UNDER THIS REALM. WE DID THIS WITH THE ATTORNEYS AND THE ASSISTANT ATTORNEYS, HOW OFF WE WERE ON THAT. ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BACK ON PAY? >>JUDGE CANALES: WHEN SHE POSTS, SHE KIND OF NEEDS TO PUT A -- WHAT SHE IS SAYING TO US THAT REALIZE IF YOU CHANGE T THIS, YOU EFFECTIVE YOUR BU BUDGET. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO SINCE THE COURT'S WILL WAS TO CHANGE THE JOB DESCRIPTION. >> YOU GOT TO GET TO THE MIC. SWITCH WITH JULIE OR STAND WITH JULIE. >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY PAY GROUP 44 ON THE PROFESSIONAL SCHEDULE IS THE HIGHEST PAY GROUP THAT IS THERE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THIS PAY GROUP IS THE HIGHEST. >> YES, 44 IS THE HIGHEST PAY GROUP ON PROFESSIONAL SCHEDULE. >>JUDGE CANALES: EXCEPT FOR THE M. E.'S OFFICE. THE MEDICAL EXAMINER. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE SHOULD TRY IT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHY WOULD WE WANT. DON'T WE WANT TO AT LEAST KNOW -- I AGREE -- WHY DO WE HAVE TO BE SO MEDIOCRE ALL THE TIME. CAN'T WE AT LEAST FIND THE RIGHT VALUE IS FOR THIS PERSON. WE CAN GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND MAKE A FEW PHONES CALLS AND COME BACK, THIS SHOULDN'T BE TOO HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT A MEDIAN SALARY -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T THINK WE ARE SAYING THAT WE ARE MEDIOCRE. >> LIKE TELLING A DOCTOR ALL YOU GET IS THIS BECAUSE WE THINK IT IS A GOOD NUMBER. IT IS WHATEVER THEY ARE WORTH. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NOBODY -- WE HAVE BEEN SITTING ON THIS -- NOT SITTING ON THIS. NOBODY SAID THE PAY WAS INAPPROPRIATE UNTIL TODAY. THAT IS FINE. YOU CAN ALWAYS BRING STUFF UP. IF WE WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THE 27TH TO DO IT AND TELL -- I AM OKAY MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS AND SEEING WHAT HAPPENS. I DON'T THINK WE -- WE WOULD GET GREAT QUALITY APPLICANTS FOR THE I. T. UNDER THAT PAY SCALE AND WE DID. WE GOT REALLY GOOD APPLICANTS. >>JUDGE CANALES: ISM T. IS THE ONLY DEPARTMENT -- I AM GLAD YOU SAID THAT. I. T. IS THE ONLY DEPARTMENT IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY THAT MEETS THE 85% MEDIAN RANGE. THAT IS WHY WE GOT GOOD APPLICANTS BECAUSE WE MET -- [05:05:04] CHEST CHEST IS HE HIGHER THAN A 44. >> HE MAY BE AT A -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HIGHER THAN THE HIGH HEEST PAY SCALE IN NUECES COUNTY? >> NO, HE IS NOT. NOT THE HIGHEST. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE RIGHT SALARY. >> OUR PAY SCHEDULE GOES UP TO 90. 44 IS NOT THE LOWEST -- NOT THE HIGHEST. I AM PAY GROUP 45. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO WHAT IS THE -- >> PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS STOPS AT 44. >> OH, -- I AM LOOK TACT RIGHT NOW. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE ARE ALL LEARNING. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT WEEK. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T MIND WAITING ONE WEEK BECAUSE SHE NEEDS TO HAVE HER JOB DESCRIPTIONS SIGNED UP ON. I HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. IF YOU WANT TO ATTRACT PEOPLE WHO WILL BE GOOD FOR THIS POSITION AND TAKE ON RESPONSIBILITY, LET'S AT LEAST -- JULIE ARE I HATE TO SAY T THIS, BUT YOU NEED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WHAT YOU BELIEVES THE MARKET PLACE BEARS THAT IS COMMENSURATE. DON'T GO PIE IN THE SKY -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHAT IS IT NOW -- >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: EXCUSE ME, JUDGE -- >> 119,000. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I KEEP HEARING YOU SAY "HE" DO WE ALREADY THOUGH WHO WE ARE LOOKING AT? >>JUDGE CANALES: NO, IF I SAID "HE." NO, I DIDN'T SAY THAT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I SAID HE OR SHE. MAYBE YOU DIDN'T -- >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, I THINK WE -- I THINK WE NEED TO GET MOVING ON IT. I WILL BE WILLING TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO GET TO 130 AND CALL IT A DAY. AND THAT IS STILL PRETTY SOLID. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WALMART TO KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT MARKET. FOR ME THAT COULD BE PERFECT, BUT JULIE, CAN YOU MAKE A FEW PHONE CALLS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION? WE CAN BRING IT BACK IN 30 MINUTES WHEN WE FINISH EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> WE HAVE A STUDY AND THE ORIGINAL JOB WAS IN THERE AND OF COURSE IT WAS UNDER THE MARKET VALUE THERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT WAS IT. DO YOU MIND GOING TO PULL IT? >> JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, PAY GROUP 46 IS $131,000. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK WE TUTE DO THIS AND GO. I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE THE HIGHEST. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: 131. >>JUDGE CANALES: PAY GROOVE 46? COMMISSIONER MAREZ, WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT? >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: THAT SOUNDS LIKE A DECENT AMOUNT LOOKING AT -- LOOKING AT THE SALARY SURVEY FROM TML. IT DOES HELP REALLY BRING THOSE NUMBERS IN. I ALSO WANT TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IF WE DO COME TO A DECISION TODAY, ARE WE GOING THROUGH HR AGAIN TO SCREEN OR DO WE WANT TO HIRE A SEARCH FIRM? I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUST POST IT AND THEY DO A GOOD WORD GETTING IT OUT. >> IT IS INTERNATIONAL. >> WITH WE HAVE GOTTEN APPLICANTS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY FROM THE LAST BIG POSITIONS. IT IS COLLECTING THE INFORMATION AND I THINK -- BEFORE WE -- BEFORE WE START COLLECTING EVEN ONE APPLICATION, WE NEED TO -- ALSO REALLY TALK ABOUT OR DECIDE WHAT IS THE -- THE PROCESS. I THINK -- YOU KNOW, AT LEAST I HAVE LEARNED EVERY TIME WE HAVE DONE A HIRING, THERE IS A PROCESS. AND I FEEL LIKE WE CAN KIND OF LEARN FROM IT. I THINK WE MADE SOME MISTAKES THE LAST TIME AND I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LEARN FROM THOSE MISTAKES. I THINK THAT -- THAT IS GOOD GOVERNANCE BECAUSE IF NOT WE KIND OF FALL INTO -- I THINK WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO GET OUR LAST HIRE AND NOT ABOUT WHO WE HIRED, IT IS JUST -- I FEEL LIKE WE COULD HAVE IMPROVED IN SOME AREAS. AND SO MAYBE THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER JUST TO BRING FORWARD SO WE CAN -- IF IT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH JUST SCREENING THE APPLICANTS, RI RIGHT. AND THE PROCESS OF -- IF WE -- WE DECIDE NOW, IF WE CAN NOT COME TO A DECISION, THEN WE HAVE -- WE WILL SELECT UP TO THREE CANDIDATES. BECAUSE I THINK LAST TIME, NOT THAT IT WAS, BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN PERCEIVED THAT IT WAS -- IT BECAME MORE ABOUT PERMITS, OKAY. I THINK THAT IS FAIR TO SAY WITHOUT GOING INTO WHAT IS DISCUSSED. WHATEVER DECISION NOT THAT WE WERE -- BUT COULD BE PERCEIVED OF THE PROCESS THE WAY WE SELECT WOULD FAVOR ONE CANDIDATE OR THE OTHER. I THINK IF WE DO THAT NOW THAT ELIMINATES THAT, HEY, THIS WAS DECIDED LONG BEFORE YOU GOT HERE AND THIS IS HOW WE ARE [05:10:02] GOING TO DO IT AND SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS AND SCORE DIFFERENTLY AND WHO GETS A SCORE AND I THINK WE NEED TO IRON THAT OUT BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CONCERNS ME. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: A VALID POINT. AND A THOUGHT PROCESS ON HOW THIS -- TO DO THAT WHICH I THINK IS EACH COMMISSIONER PICKS A TOP THREE. A PERSON HAS TO GET TWO VOTES TO GET AN SPWE INTERVIEW AND IF YOU WANT TO LIMIT NO ROUND T TWOS. I AM FINE WITH THAT. THAT IS PART ME. I HAD A HARD TIME DECIDING LAST TIME. I WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM SAYING THAT WAS PARTLY ME. I CAN GET THERE AND I AM FOUND WITH THAT. IF WE WANT TO SAY DO IT IN ONE ROUND AND I AM OKAY WITH THAT. >> IF EACH PERSON CHOOSES THREE APPLICANTS, THAT WOULD BE 15 PEOPLE THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY BE INTERVIEWING. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO HAVE 15 INTERVIEWS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: EACH PERSON ON THE LIST HAS TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO VOTES OR SOMETHING FROM A COMMISSIONER BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DO 15 INTE INTERVIEWS. I WILL BE HONEST. I THOUGHT WE HAD TOO MANY LAST TIME AND NOT GO TO TWO ROUNDS AND MAYBE LIMIT IT TO A NUMBER OF -- OF APPLICANTS. NOW -- I GET IT IF WE GET 50 APPLICANTS AND PHENOMENAL, YOU GET A LITTLE MORE STUCK. BUT I MEAN -- IF YOU HAVE A BETTER SUGGESTION, JOHN, I'M OPEN TO IT. >> NOT IN PARTICULAR, I THINK THAT -- IT IS BETTER, I THINK, IF WE IRON IT OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TODAY BUT BEFORE THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS FINISHED, BUT JUST PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA PERHAPS FOR DISCUSSION OF FINALIZE THE SELECTION PROCESS. AND WE CAN STILL LET THE T TIMELINE GO UNTIL WHENEVER IT IS -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: CAN WE DO, LIKE, -- 120 TO START AND GO UP TO 125. I MEAN -- IS THERE A RANGE THAT WE CAN GO OR JUST -- I HATE TO START WITH 125,000 AND YOU CAN'T GO ANYWHERE ELSE. IS THERE SOMETHING -- DOES IT ALLOW US TO DO THAT? >> THE WAY WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE OUR POSITIONS IS -- WE PUT OUR PAY GROUP TO IT AND SET THE SALARY. AND THAT IS THE WAY IT -- ALL OF OUR COUNTY POSITIONS ARE. THEY HAVE A PAY GROUP TIED TO IT WITH A SALARY THAT DALE IS LOOKING AT FROM OUR PAY SCHEDULE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SO WE SAY 119 -- IT WAS 119 NOW. 120. THEY ARE GOING TO GO UP -- ABLE TO GO UP TO 125, RIGHT? >> WITH OUR CONTINUANCE PAY STEPS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HE IS SAYING -- >> NO, OUR SALARIES HAVE NEVER BEEN NEGOTIABLE. PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET. SO WHEN WE POST A POSITION WITH $119,000, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE HIRING THEM ON IT. WE DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR NEGOTIATIONS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE APPLYING TOO. >>JUDGE CANALES: AGAIN, WHATEVER THE MARKET DICTATES. WHAT YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO IS TO JUSTIFY IT. YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY WE CHOSE THIS PAY GROUP BECAUSE FOR COUNTY EXECUTIVES AND COUNTY -- YOU KNOW, ADMINISTRATORS/MANAGERS, THIS IS THE 85% OF THE MEDIAN. THAT IS WHERE YOU WANT TO BE. THAT IS ALWAYS OUR GOAL. AS WE FIND NEW POSITIONS BECOME AVAILABLE WHY DO YOU WANT TO WORK BELOW THE MEDIAN AND TRY TO GET UP TO IT. TRY TO GET RIGHT NOW THE RIGHT WAGE FOR RIGHT WORK. NOT ABOUT HOW WE FEEL ABOUT IT. IT IS ABOUT WHAT IT IS IN THE MARKETPLACE. THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING WRONG ALL THESE YEARS. HERE IS A CHANCE TO -- THEN CPI OR COLAS OR LONGEVITY PAY WORK. WHAT DOESN'T WORK FOR THIS COUNTY COURTHOUSE WHEN YOU START BELOW THE MARKET AVERAGE AND THAT'S WHY SHE IS SAYING GIVE HER A CHANCE TO LOOK AT WHAT TYNER'S POSITION WAS IN THE MARKET HERNLZ HERNANDEZ EXCUSE ME, JUDGE, WHAT ABOUT IF WE START -- WHAT TYNE R WAS DOING AND THE PERSON PROVES THEMSELVES TO DO A GOOD JOB. AND YOU GIVE THEM INCREASE, YOU KNOW, IN SIX MONTHS. >>JUDGE CANALES: BECAUSE THE JOB DESCRIPTION IS DIFFERENT, AND BECAUSE WE ARE TAKE THAT TYNER LITTLE'S JOB WAS NOWHERE NEAR MARKET VALUE AND SHE IS GOING TO BRING THAT BACK US TO MAYBE IN JUST A FEW MOMENTS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I HEARD YOU SAY THAT EVEN THE BIG COUNTIES WERE NOT THAT HIGH. [05:15:01] >> OUR POSITIONS AT NUECES COUNTY ARE NOT AT MARKET VALUE AT ALL. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU SAID YOU LOOKED AT OTHER -- HIDALG O, A EXECUTIVE OFFICER THAT HANDLES THE BUDGET. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITIES THERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: LIKE PUTTING TWO JOBS IN ONE. IT IS REALLY LIKE A CITY MANAGER ONLY FOR THE COUNTY A AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF ARPA WASN'T HERE AND WE DIDN'T HAVE $100 MILLION IN THE FIELD WITH INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, YOU MIGHT SAY WE ARE STILL IN SLEEPY MODE, BUT WE ARE NOT HUGE INFRASTRUCTURE MODE. WOULD THAT BE -- BE OKAY IF WE COME BACK. WE WON'T TRY TO DELAY IT. AND TRY TO GET YOU TO FIND OUT THAT MARKET VALUE AND I AM CURIOUS WHERE IT WILL BE. >> OKAY. I WILL COME RIGHT BACK. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL PUT THAT PIECE OF THE CLERK ON A [4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.] BRIEF HOLD. JUST THAT PIECE OF IT AND MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND GIVING PUBLIC NOTICE THAT WE ARE ELECTING TO GO INTO THIS SESSION AS AUTHORIZED BY OPEN MEETINGS ACT 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AND AUTHORIZED BY VERN NONE NON'S 551.071, 7, 73, 4, 5, 6 AND 86 AND 87. DELIBERATE WITH OUR ATTORNEY WITH MATTERS OF LITIGATION AND REAL PROPERTY. THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO ANYWAY, RESPECTIVE GIFTS, TERMINATION, DEVICES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ANY OTHER MATTER OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. UPON COMPLETION WE COME OUT INTO OPEN SESSION AS DEEMED NECESSARY BY THE COURT THAT WE VOTED ON BY EXECUTIVE SESSION. THEREFORE I WILL GAVEL US OUT AT 2:58 P.M. ANYONE WHO DOES NOT NEED TO BE HERE TO PLEASE CLEAR THE >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU MUCH. WE ARE PACK ON THE RECORD, 3:36 P.M. OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE HAVE ACTION TO TAKE ON ITEMS A AND B. 22000263. DAVID LONGORIA ON BEHALF THE ESTATES OF DAVID JOHNSON. HIRING OF DOUG CHAVEZ TO REPRESENT NUECES COUNTY AS CO-COUNSEL WITH PAUL K RASICK. AND WHEN WE DO THE MOTION, WE WILL IMPROVE THE ENGAGEMENT LETTER. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: MAKE TO MOVE THAT RERATIFY THE HIRING OF DOUG CHAVEZ TO REPRESENT NUECES COUNTY AND COUNSEL WITH ATTORNEY PAUL KRAVITZ, ALSO ENGAGEMENT LETTER. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL SECOND THAT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> SUPER. ITEM -- LETTER B, CASE NUMBER 221-CV 00235 MARGARET MARY SMITH VERSUS NUECES COUNTY, TEXAS. TO REPRESENT GAGE MATTHEW HINOJOSA. OF RALEFYING THE HIRING OF MIREA MORRIS AND THE IMPROVEMENT LEADER. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. ALSO IN THE MOTION -- WE NEED A SECRETARY SECOND PART OF THE MOTION OF WELLPATH TO INDEMNIFY WITH THE COUNTY. >> MOTION. >> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: DIRECTING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO DO THAT ACTION. AND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT MATTER? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY. GREAT THAT CONCLUDES OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION MATTERS AND RETURN INTO REGULAR SESSION AGENDA. WE LEFT OFF WITH A QUERY TO HR. AND SHE IS BACK WITH AN ANSWER TO THAT AND HAD TO DO WITH THE MEDIAN SALARY. JULIE, WHAT DID YOU FIND OUT? I WENT TO THE CORN FERRY STUDY THAT WE DID LAST YEAR, AND, OF COURSE, IT WENT OFF THE POSITION WE HAD IN EXISTENCE WHICH WAS TYNER'S POSITION. AND SO THE -- THE MARKET VALUE FOR THAT POSITION IS CURRENTLY ABOUT 167 -- $167,680. [05:20:01] THAT IS THE MARKET. WE WENT -- 75% OF THE MARKET WILL BE AT 148. AND 50% OF THE MARKET WILL BE AT 129. $129,000. >> 50% OF THE MARKET MEANS -- SORRY, 50% OF THE MARKET MEANS -- >> YOU HAVE THE MARKET UP HERE AND ONLY 50% PERCENTILE AT $129,000. ONLY HALFWAY UP TO THE MARKET VALUE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HALFWAY UP TO ME -- MAYBE I AM UNDERSTANDING IT -- HALFWAY IS UP HALF OF $16 167,000. YOU ARE SAYING WE ARE IN THE 50 PERCENTILE OF WHAT WE PAY? >> CORRECT. SO WHAT THE MARKET -- THIS JOB -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: 50% OF THE -- WE ARE AVERAGE PAY AT 50%. IF WE SAID 130, THAT WOULD BE AVERAGE PAY. WOULDN'T BE ABOVE AVERAGE OR BELOW AVERAGE, IT WOULD BE AVERAGE? CORRECT, IS THAT FAIR? >> IT WILL BE -- WELL, -- WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE AT MARKET VALUE. I MEAN, WHAT THE REST OF THE MARKET PLAYS TO BE COMPETITIVE, YOU WOULD WANT WHAT THE REST OF THE MARKET IS PAYING FOR THAT TECH JOB. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I UNDERSTAND. >> NOW WE UPGRADE THIS POSITION AND ADDED MORE DUTIES. SO I AM NOT LOOKING AT THE CURRENT JOB BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE HAVE THAT INFORMATION RIGHT NOW. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM MAKING SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. I UNDERSTAND YOUR PHILOSOPHY. IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING -- >> HALF OF THE MARKET IS PAYING THAT $148,000 -- SORRY, $129,000. HALF OF THE MARKET IS PAYING THAT. THE 50 PERCENTILE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MAYBE AVERAGE ISN'T THE RIGHT TURN. BUT BASICALLY IN THE 50%IL FESHTION WE PAY THE $130,000. >>JUDGE CANALES: SOMEWHERE BETWEEN GETTING OUR ACT TOGETHER WE WANT TO BE BETWEEN 50% AND 85%. THAT IS GOING TO BE OUR GOAL, CORRECT? >> RIGHT. >>JUDGE CANALES: FOR THE OLD POSITION? >> THE OLD POSITION. THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN BEFORE. ONLY DATA AT THE TIME. WHAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW.. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: OLD POSITION WAS $119,000. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE WERE BELOW. >> BUDGETED RIGHT NOW AT $119,000. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: TYNE R WAS MAKING MORE BECAUSE HE HAD BEEN THERE LONGER. HE WAS PROBABLY MAKING $13 $130,000. >> PROBABLY SO, YES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM GOOD, LIKE I SAID. >>JUDGE CANALES: I ANY IT IS RIGHT. HILDALG SPORKS I PUT IN A PHONE CALL TO HIDALGO COUNTY AND THEY ARE PAYING $149,000. >>JUDGE CANALES: OBVIOUSLY WHATEVER THE MAJORITY WANTS, BUT I THINK $130,000 WILL BE PAY GROUP 46. AND THAT WOULD REPRESENT 130,000 -- >> $131,476. >>JUDGE CANALES: REPRESENT 50% AND THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY COURT, IF THAT IS WHERE YOU WANT TO BE CERTAINLY IN MUCH BETTER AND KEEPING WHERE WE WANT TO GO. KEEP IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND JUST LIKE WE HELPED THE ATTORNEYS GET TO THAT MEDIAN -- SOMEONE IS GOING TO WANT TO KNOW OR HEAR FROM US THAT THEY ARE THINKING OVERTIME THAT WE WANT TO GET TO -- MAYBE THROUGH ANOTHER BUDGET PROCESS GET TO THAT 75% MARK, WHICH BOOK 150,000. SO I MEAN -- IT'S. AS THEY SAY, WHEN YOU HAVE CHOICES, YOU WANT TO KNOW AT LEAST THAT YOU ARE AT THAT 50% MARK. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, I MAKE A MOTION -- >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: EXCUSE ME, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: THIS IS TYNER'S POSITION AND WE DROPPED THE ATTORNEY DEGREE? >>JUDGE CANALES: WE MADE IT PREFERRED. THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT TYER'S POSITION. >> GRADUATE DEGREE PREFERRED. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: BUT NOT REQUIRED. >> REQUIRING A BACHELOR'S DEGREE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: PUT IN WORK EXPERIENCE AND PRIVATE SECTOR WORK. >>JUDGE CANALES: TO ATTRACT SOMEBODY WHO HAS THOSE CREDENTIALS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, IF HE IS DONE ASKING. I DIDN'T WANT TO CUT HIM OFF. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SET IT AT -- WHAT WAS IT, 44? >> CURRENTLY AT PAY GROUP 34. $131,000 IS A 46. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MAKE A MOTION AT PAY GROUP 46. >> PAY GROUP 46. >> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AND A SECOND. AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY [05:25:02] BY SAYING AYE. WE HAVE NOT GUN NAY. WELL, JULIE, AT LEAST YOU HAVE THAT POSTED. I KNOW THAT MAKES YOU FEEL G GOOD. AND PLEASE GIVE US. COMMISSIONER MAREZ HAD SOME REALLY GOOD SUGGESTIONS. HOW ABOUT ON OCTOBER 27, WE COME BACK AND CREATE THAT -- BE THE RUBRIC. TAKE YOU A WHILE TO POST AND GET APPLICATIONS IN. >> WE POST JOBS FOR SEVEN DAYS. >>JUDGE CANALES: WELL, SHOOT, THAT IS TOO QUICK. I AM GOING TO HAVE YOU. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: MORE THAN SEVEN DAYS. >>JUDGE CANALES: TWO FULL WEEBLTION. >> TWO FULL WEEKS? OKAY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: P POSTING -- 14 DAYS. I WOULD SAY 14 DAYS. >>JUDGE CANALES: AT MINIMUM. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: PUT US WHERE WE COME BACK ON FIRST AND SECOND WEEK IN NOVEMBER. THE SECOND ONE IN NOVEMBER TO MAKE A DECISION. >> OKAY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: OBVIOUSLY SET AS LONG A TIME TO SET INTERVIEWS AND MAYBE CONSIDER DOING THAT -- I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SAY EXTRA, BUT A VERY IMPORTANT POSITION AND MAYBE WE DO IT FIRST, I DON'T KNOW. IF IT IS A SUPER LONG AGENDA, I DON'T WANT THEM TO WAIT AND BE SITTING THERE AND US BE RUSHED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I WILL BE WILLING -- IF WE INTERVIEW FIVE OR SIX, WILLING TO DO IT ON A SEPARATE DAY. >> TALK DATES REAL QUICK JUST SO -- JUST SO WE KNOW WHEREER AT. SO TODAY IS THE 18TH. SO NOVEMBER 1 WILL BE THE CUT OFF, THAT'S CORRECT? OR THE 29TH -- OR THE 1ST, NOVEMBER 1. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: POST TOMORROW, RIGHT. AND THEN SEVEN DAYS 26, 14 DAYS WILL BE NOVEMBER 2. AND THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE THE 10TH -- NO -- THE 3RD? 3RD IS TOO QUICK. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I KNOW BUT OUR NEXT MEETING. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THE 17TH. DECIDE ON THE 17TH OR HAVE IT ON A SEPARATE DAY THAT IS CONVENIENT FOR EVERYBODY LIKE ON THE -- >> I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT YOU WILL PROBABLY END UP MEETING THE 11TH OR 12TH TO DO CANVASSING OF THE ELECTION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: 11 IS A DAY OFF. >> WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MEET BEFORE THE 17TH PING THE 15TH IS THE LAST DAY BE TOO ABLE TO CANVAS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: DO IT -- 11TH IS VETERANS DAY WHICH WE ARE WILL OFF -- STAFF IS OFF AND DO IT ON THE 12TH BECAUSE CANVASSING DOESN'T TAKE ANY TIME, USUALLY. IS THAT WOK EVERYBODY? IN THE MORNING? THAT OKAY? 8:30 ON THE 12TH. THROWING IT OUT THERE. ANYBODY HAVE OBJECTIONS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: DO IT ON THE 10TH? >> THE 10TH YOU CAN, STATE OF THE PORT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: DO IT IN THE MORNING. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM FINE WITH THAT TOO. 10TH IS FINE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WOULD RATHER DO THE 10TH FOR ME. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: 10TH AT 8:30. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THAT'S FINE. I DON'T CARE WHAT TIME IT IS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: DEPENDING ON WHAT THE NUMBERS, SET THE INTERVIEWS UNTIL AFTER LUNCH. WHATEVER. >> I THINK THE -- THE -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH WE END UP INTERVIEWING. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU MEAN FOR INTERVIEWS. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE DEDICATION OF THE NEW BUILDING IS ON THE 10TH AT 10 A.M. NOT REALLY THE STATE OF THE PORT. IT IS SOMETHING THAT -- WE ALSO HAVE A GLO I DON'T KNOW FIVE TO ATTEND THAT. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: WHAT ABOUT THE 12TH. IF THEY ARE TRAVELLING IN. >> 9TH. SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE 9TH -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE THEM TRAVEL, DO WE? 9TH IN THE MORNING. IS THAT OKAY, JUDGE, WITH YOU? >>JUDGE CANALES: I HAVE TO BE IN HOUSTON THAT EVENING. I CAN DO IT AS LONG AS WE DID IT IN THE MORNING SO THAT I COULD LEAVE BY LUNCH. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM GOOD TO START -- I AM GOOD TO START EARLIER, BUT 8:30, 8 IS FINE WITH ME, 7:30, BUT I DON'T WANT TO KILL EVERYBODY. I GET UP EARLY. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET US TRY TO AIM FOR THAT DAY NOVEMBER 9. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: 8:30. >>JUDGE CANALES: MARK THAT ON THE CALENDAR. >> PLANNING INTERVIEWS ON THAT DAY. I SHOULD HAVE APPLICATIONS TO YOU BY PROBABLY THE 4TH. NOVEMBER 4TH. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. AND ALSO. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MAYBE BACK DOWN A LITTLE BIT. >> THE POLICY SEVEN DAYS. ANYTHING OVER THE -- [05:30:04] >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE WILL HAVE TO RESPOND QUICKLY TO YOU WHICH ONES OUR TOP ONES ARE TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY INTERVIEWS AND SET UP THE INTERVIEWS PRETTY QUICK. >> RIGHT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF THEY ARE OUT OF STATE ALLOW ZOOM TO NOT INCUR THE COST FOR THEM AND -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: 100%. SO THEN WE CAN ACTUALLY -- IF WE ARE GOING TO POST TOMORROW, THAT WILL BE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR -- YOU COUNT THE WEEKENDS WHEN YOU SAY SEVEN DAYS? >> YES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CUT IT UP A IN THE 29TH OF OCTOBER, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, TENS, 11 DAYS -- IS THAT NUMBER FOR EVERYBODY? JULIE CAN KNOCK IT OUT AND GET IT ON THE FIRST FOR US TO VIEW AND HAVE TIME. >> ON THE 29TH CLOSE AT MIDNIGHT, SO I DON'T WANT TO CLOSE IT ON FRIDAY. I WOULD RATHER CLOSE IT ON A SUNDAY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YES. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: GET IT ON A MONDAY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF YOU WOULD RATHER DO IT ON A SUNDAY. CLOSES AT MIDNIGHT ON THAT SUNDAY. MONDAY MORNING WHEN WE COME IN, WE CAN GET -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: CLOSE IT AT NOON. >> THE SYSTEM CLOSES AT MIDNIGHT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THEY ARE NOT GOING TO IT ANYWAY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IT IS GOING TO TAKE HER TIME DO IT AND WE WANT TO GET IT BACK IN TIME TO PUT IN OUR TOP THREE OR WHATEVER WE ARE PUTTING IN, RIGHT. SO -- >> I WAS HOPING FOR TWO FROM EACH -- >> TWO, YES. THAT WOULD LIMIT US TO AT LEAST TEN INTERVIEWS. IF YOU PICK SOME THAT COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ PICKS, OF COURSE, THAT WILL BEGIN TO ELIMINATE IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHAT ABOUT THE MAY TREKS IF WE SAID, ALL RIGHT, THREE. AND HAVE TWO OF THOSE PUT DOWN SOMEBODY BEFORE A PERSON GETS AN INTERVIEW. WHAT IS THE BETTER WAY FOR TO YOU LIKE TO DO IT. >> WHAT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BEST TO HAVE EVERYBODY PICK TWO. THAT WOULD BE A POSSIBILITY OF TEN INTERVIEWS BUT, OF COURSE, IT COULD BE LESS IF SOME OF YOU PICK THE SAME ONES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T WANT TO DO TEN INTE INTERVIEWS. >> SOMEBODY WILL -- I WANT A THIRD BECAUSE IT IS SO GREAT. >> THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT REALLY. I MEAN IT'S -- IT IS NOT FAIR FOR EVERYBODY ELSE TO START CHANGING MIDDLE OF THE M MAINSTREAM. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHAT DID YOU SAY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SELECT TWO -- TO INTERVIEW AND TOP -- AND THAT'S IT. YOU LIKE ONE BETTER THAN THE OTHER ONE, GO FOR THAT ONE. IF YOU LIKE -- IF YOU CAN'T MAKE UP YOUR MIND -- >>JUDGE CANALES: THE WHOLE IDEA THAT SOMEBODY ON PAPER MAY INTERVIEW VERY DIFFERENTLY AND YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET THAT ABSOLUTE OPPORTUNITY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: DO IT AT THAT TIME. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T WANT TO DO TEN INTE INTERVIEWS. IF THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GET. I DON'T THINK THERE IS EVER A TIME -- >>JUDGE CANALES: I BET WE GET CROSSOVER. >> WHAT I WAS HOPING FOR EACH PERSON DO TWO APPLICANTS, A POSSIBLE TEN. AND SO -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT'S FINE. >> AFTER THE TEN APPLICANTS, YOU COULD ALL VOTE TO DETERMINE IF WE NEED A SECOND INTERVIEW. BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD SECOND INTERVIEWS IN THE PAST. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING WE NEED TO ELIMINATE. BECAUSE THAT ENDED UP A PROBLEM TO ME LAST TIME. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROCESS IS SELECTED BEFORE WE SEE OR KNOW WHO ANYONE IS, BECAUSE -- I JUST THINK THAT WILL BE A PROBLEM. AND I ALSO THINK, TOO, JUST BECAUSE WE ARE VOTING TWO WHICH -- I WILL STICK WITH TWO. THAT'S FINE. BUT WE SAY, HEY, NO MORE THAN NO MORE THAN 8. JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE GETS TWO DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE AUTOMATICALLY QUALIFIED. I THINK IF -- IF THE MAJORITY OF IT SAYS THREE. SEVEN OF THEM GETS THREE AND FIVE OF THEM GETS THREE, DO WE HAVE TO PICK THE OTHERS BECAUSE THEY ENDED UP GETTING TWO. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD. >> OR THEY GET ONE. >> ONE, I THINK WE ARE WAIVING THAT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NOT WHAT JULIE IS SAYING. SHE WAS SAYING, JOHN, PUT TWO DOWN AND THE MAX COULD BE TEN. SHE IS SAYING, COULD BE -- I AM WITH YOU. >> I THINK MINIMUM. YOU HAVE TO PICK A MINIMUM AND -- BECAUSE YOU PICKED -- MY OPINION IS I THINK YOU GET TWO. >> IF YOU SAY, JOHN, EVERYBODY PUTS TWO DOWN. >> YOU GOT TO GET TWO POINTS TO MAKE IT TO THE -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: FINE WITH ME. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: FINALIST OR SEMIFINALISTS, WHATEVER WE ARE CALLING IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: STILL ASSUMING COULD YOU HAVE TEN INTERVIEWS. [05:35:06] >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: IF YOU GET FIVE AND FIVE -- UP TO NUMBER TEN WOULD GET TWO. I WOULD WANT TO GO WITH SOMEONE WITH MORE VOTES. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK THEY MUTED RIGHT NOW. >> WHAT I WAS SAYING EACH MEMBER PARTICULARS TWO APPLICANTS POSSIBLY BLOW. AND A TOTAL -- THE MAXIMUM WILL BE 10. BUT NOT NECESSARILY TEN IF THERE ARE DUPE POLICE CATS. IF YOU WANT A SECOND INTERVIEW, YOU ALL COULD VOTE ON THAT WHETHER TO HAVE A SECOND INTERVIEW. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK -- IF THERE IS A HYBRID HERE AND MAYBE WHAT JOHN IS SAYING THE HYBRID, WE EACH PUT IN TWO, BUT TO GET AN INTERVIEW YOU HAVE TO PUT TO TWO VOTE. TWO OF US HAVE TO PUT IN THEIR NAMES AND CHANCES ARE WE WOULDN'T HAVE TEN INTERVIEWS .OWN I DON'T WANT TEN INTERVIEWS -- >> WOULD TAKE A WHOLE DAY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: AT LEAST. MY THOUGHT WOULD BE WHAT JOHN IS SUGGESTING -- I THINK WHAT JOHN SUGGESTING. EVERYBODY PUT IN TWO -- BUT EVERYBODY HAS TO HAVE TWO MEMBERS -- TO MAKE THE INTERVIEW LIST. OR ARE YOU SAYING THREE? >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: WE NEED TO PICK ONE. I DIDN'T WANT ANYONE -- SAY WE GET A GOOD GROUP OF -- EVERYONE GETS THREE OR FOUR VOTES -- MAY NOT HAPPEN, -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IT COULD. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: NO SENSE BRINGING THREE OTHERS THAT JUST GOT TWO. I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WORD THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT -- THE WAY TO WORK IT OUT. >>JUDGE CANALES: MY ONLY CONCERN, GUYS, YOU MAY FINAL, IF WE ARE LUCKY, YOU MIGHT HAVE FIVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TREMENDOUS QUALIFICATION THAT'S YOU WOULD WANT TO INTERVIEW. AND IF YOU ARE ONLY LIMITING THEM TO TWO VOTES, YOU ARE GOING TO MISS OUT ON THOSE THREE. AND IT BECOMES VERY SUBJECTIVE. THIS IS MY SUGGESTION. IS THAT WE -- WE POST. WE GO AHEAD AND MAKE OUR OFFICIAL RANKINGS. AND WE HAVE ONE PRELIMINARY MEETING TOGETHER TO DISCUSS OUR -- OUR QUALIFIED APPLICANTS. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU CAN IMMEDIATELY TRY TO ELIMINATE PEOPLE THAT DON'T MEET THE CRITERIA AT ALL. THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE BACHELORS A DEGREE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SHE WILL DO THAT. ELIMINATE THOSE PEOPLE. WE DON'T SEE THOSE. >> IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR ME T TOO. >>JUDGE CANALES: USUALLY SHE DOES NOT DO THAT FOR ME WHEN I GET APPLICATIONS. >> I CAN SCREEN THEM. >>JUDGE CANALES: SHE CAN IF WE WANT TO. >>JUDGE CANALES: I USUALLY GET TO LOOK AT EVERYBODY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT IS RIGHT. IN THE PAST -- WE HAVE GONE AND BACK FORTH. I AM NOT SAYING WRONG OR RIGHT. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S NOT BOX OURSELVES IN. YOU ARE ABOUT TO HIRE THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON FOR THE COUNTY AND SEE WHAT YOU GET AND THE WILL OF THE COURT IS NOT TO HAVE 10 INTERVIEWS. THAT THERE BE SOME REAL CONSENSUS ON A TOP FIVE OR SIX TO INTERVIEW, RIGHT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A MEETING BEFORE A MEETING. I LIKE JOHN'S HYBRID. I THOUGHT -- >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU HAVE TO HAVE SO MANY VOTES. IF YOU ARE GIVING YOURSELF TWO AND FOUR QUALIFIED PEOPLE. HOW WOULD YOU KNOW ON PAPER IF THEY ARE STRONG CANDIDATES. I NEVER BEEN INVOLVED WITH A PROCESS WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE MULTIPLE INTERVIEWS AND MULTIPLE, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITIES. THIS ISN'T A WHAM BAM THANK YOU MA'AM. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I THINK IT WILL BE AN ALL DAY. I DON'T WANT SHORTCHANGE IT AND NOT BE THOROUGH ENOUGH FOR SOMEBODY WHO WILL DO A GREAT JOB. I AM FINE WITH DOING ALL DAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: I KNOW I CANNOT BE HERE ALL DAY. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT. I AM COMMITTED TO. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: ORIGINALLY -- >>JUDGE CANALES: I WANT TO LOOK FOR THE BEST CANDIDATES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: EVERYBODY SUBMIT TWO AND THAT COULD BE TEN AND JOHN SAID A MINIMUM -- YOU DON'T LIKE THAT PART OF IT? >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK THAT IS OKAY. BUT IF YOU ONLY GET TWO. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN. >>JUDGE CANALES: ONLY TWO APPLICANTS THAT YOU RANK. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: RIGHT. WE WOULD ALL PUT IN OUR TOP T TWO. AND JOHN WAS SAYING WE PUT IN OUR TOP TWO. >>JUDGE CANALES: AT LEAST TWO WILL GET TWO VOTES. PROBABLY BE ABOUT SIX I WOULD BET, BUT I AM NOT SURE, BUT I WOULD SAY THE DYNAMICS WOULD BE [05:40:02] -- >> THAT WOULD BE RIGHT. >> ABOUT SIX OF THEM WILL GET TWO VOTES. USUALLY HOW IT WORKS OUT. THAT IS A PRETTY GOOD NUMBER. >> FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY GET AN INTERVIEW THEY WILL HAVE TO BE CHOSEN BY TWO COMMISSIONERS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT WOULD BE AT LEAST SIX. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. WELL, LOOK, I GUESS YOU WILL NOT KNOW UNTIL YOU KNOW. TYPICALLY WHAT NORMALLYCALLY WHS IS IT BECOMES -- LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT IT, RIGHT. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED WITH US ON THE -- ON SOME OF THE OTHER MAJOR DEPARTMENT HEADS AND I THINK WHAT THIS WILL DO CREATE SOME STRUCTURE EVERYBODY KNOWS THE RULES OF THE GAME PLUS THE APPLICANTS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE COULD SAY IF WE -- JUDGE, WE COULD ADD A CAVEAT TO EASE YOUR CONCERN THAT IF WE DIDN'T AT LEAST GET FIVE THAT GOT THE VOTES THAT WE COULD COME BACK -- I DON'T KNOW, I AM JUST TRYING TO THROW SOMETHING OUT. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE SAY WE WILL HAVE ONE OR TWO SLOTS FOR -- FOR THAT CALL -- A FLOATER, WHICH THROUGH THE GROUP CONSENSUS STICK TO THE TWO VOTES AND RESERVE TWO SPOTS FOR A. HEY, I REALLY THINK THIS -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF WE DIDN'T GET FIVE OR SIX. IF WE GOT A CONSENSUS ON SIX. FIVE OR SIX. THAT WOULD BE OKAY, BUT FOUR, MAYBE DO YOUR FLOATER THING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: A GOOD IDEA. >>JUDGE CANALES: NOW TALKING -- >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: TALK ABOUT DAY TWO -- IMAGINE WE WOULD HAVE A DAY TWO FOR COUNTY MANAGER. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT. WE HAD A DAY TWO FOR I. T. MANAGER. I THINK -- WE NEED A PLAN FOR THAT THAT WEEK AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE GOT INTO. GOT INTO AND HAVE A DAY TWO AND STRUGGLED. COME BACK THE NEXT DAY. WE WILL HAVE TO PICK THAT NEXT IMMEDIATE DAY AS KEEP THAT OPEN. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT. YOU WANT A SECOND ROUND? >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: NO, NO. I HOPE WE FIND ONE -- I. T. I THOUGHT -- HOW CAN I. T. GO ON MORE THAN ONE DAY AND IT DID. I FEAR THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHICH IS A GOOD PROCESS BECAUSE WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO TALK IT OUT AND SAY TWO OR THREE THAT WERE REALLY GOOD AND ASK THEM MORE AND SCRUTINIZE A LITTLE BIT MORE. HOW SOON DO WE DO THAT? I AM SAYING TO PLAN FOR AND IF DOESN'T HAPPEN, GREAT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE SAID THE MORNING INTERVIEWSND IF THERE IS A ROUND TWO, RESERVE LATER THIS AFTERNOON. >> YOU ARE GOING TO BE OUT OF TOWN. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR IT -- WHAT I HAVE IS A SPEAKING ENGAGEMENT THAT EVENING. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: JUST SAYING POSSIBLY, COMMISSIONER, WE GET -- SOMEBODY GETS THREE -- THREE US PICK THE SAME PERSON. THE NEXT ONE GETS TWO OR TWO -- SO WE DO THE THREE PLUS ONE TWO OR THE TWO TWOS. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: THAT IS THE THING. MAYBE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL HAVE TO DECIDE ON A WHIM THERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: YEAH. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YOU NEED TO BE SOMEWHERE OUT OF TOWN? >>JUDGE CANALES: IN HOUSTON. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: PLAN FOR A DAY TWO SO THEY KNOW AND WE KNOW. MAY HAVE TO BE -- THURSDAY IS VET RAVEN'S DAY. >> HOW DO YOU FEEL WEDNESDAY IN THE AFTERNOON. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THOUGHT YOU HAD -- THE PORT IN THE AFTERNOON. -- THE PORT IN THE MORNING AND IN THE AFTERNOON. WE SHOULD BE DONE -- AND AFTERNOON ON THE 10TH. >> IF WE NEED A DAY TWO. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHAT TIME. >>JUDGE CANALES: START AT 1 1:00. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: 1:30 JUST TO GET THROUGH THE LUNCH HOUR. AND THAT IS IF WE NEED IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK THAT IS A GOOD RESOLUTION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DO TOO. >> WHAT TIME ON THE 9TH. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE SAID 8:30. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: 1:30 ON THE 10TH. SO HOPEFULLY MY OFFICE IS LISTENING ON THAT. 1:30 ON THE 10TH. 8:30 ON THE 9TH. >> JUST BECAUSE OF POSTING REQUIREMENTS. THE ONE ON THE 10TH WILL BE POSTED THE SAME TIME -- CHEST CHEST NOT AT THE SAME TIME. -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NOT STATEMENT. >> HOW FAR APART WOULD YOU LIKE INTERVIEWS, 30 MINUTES, 45 MINUTES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SAYS IT SIX AND 30 MINUTES APIECE. I WILL RUN IT PRETTY TIGHT OR YOU WON'T GET OUT THAT MORNING. I DON'T KNOW HOW TIGHT YOUR SCHEDULE IS THAT DAY. I AM GOING TO PURSUE OPTIONS [05:45:06] THAT MAYBE I DON'T DRIVE BUT FLY. >> OUT OF HERE BY NOON OR 1. >>JUDGE CANALES: STARTS AT 5:30. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HOUSTON TRAFFIC STINKS. >>JUDGE CANALES: OUT OF HERE BY LUNCH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THREE AND A HALF HOURS. PUT IT IN THAT TIME FRAME. >>JUDGE CANALES: 8:30 UNTIL NOON. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF IT IS FIVE, WE ARE GOLD. IF IT IS SIX, WE ARE A LITTLE TIGHTER. SEE HOW MANY WE COME UP WITH. >> WE CAN START AT 6:00. WHAT IS THE HARM OF GETTING THE EXTRA 30 MINUTES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM GOOD -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE CAN DO 8:00. >>JUDGE CANALES: CAPTURE -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HE MAY STILL BE LAID OUT. I HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER. THAT IS FINE WITH ME, JUDGE. EARLIER THE BETTER. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK YOU HAVE CONSENSUS AND THOSE WO WONDERING WHY WE GO THE PAINSTAKING PROCESS SO WE DON'T CATCH EVERYBODY OFFGUARD WHEN WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. ALL RIGHT, JULIE, YOU FEEL GOOD? GOT YOUR MARCHING ORDERS? >> I THINK SO. >> JUDGE, ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON THE JOB DESCRIPTION FOR THAT POSITION. THERE ARE DEPARTMENT HEADS WHO DO NOT -- ARE NOT APPOINTED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: SUBJECT TO. LIKE OUR PURCHASING BOARD, BOARD OF JUDGES FOR THE AUDITOR AND COASTAL PARKS STATUTORILY REPORT TO THE COASTAL PARKS BOARD. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY CAN'T WORK FOR THEM. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE PERSON WILL COLLABORATE WELL WITH EVERYBODY AND ABSOLUTELY OF THE REPORTING TO. WHEREVER THERE IS A STATUTORY AUTHORITY, OBVIOUSLY FOLLOW THE STATUTES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: AGREED. >> I WILL GET THAT JOB DESCRIPTION OUT TODAY AND GET IT SIGNED IF YOU WOULD ALL -- SO I COULD GET IT POSTED HOPEFULLY BY TOMORROW. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: BRING IT BACK NOW. IF YOU NEED TO GET IT DONE, I WILL WAIT. >> THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. WILL YOU MAKE THOSE CHANGES TO ALL THOSE -- UNLESS THERE IS STATUTORILY AUTHORIZED TO REPORT TO ANOTHER BODY. WHAT JENNY WAS SAYING OF THE CLARIFICATION. >> IT DONE INCLUDE JUST THE APPOINTMENT. >>JUDGE CANALES: DOESN'T INCLUDE. >> I SAID APPOINTED DEPARTMENT HEADS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: ALL APPOINTED DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE NOT GOVERNED BY A CONTROLLING STATUTE. >> NOT GOVERNED BY A CONTROLLING STATUTE. >> WOULDN'T IT BE ALL APPOINTED DEPARTMENT HEADS APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONERS COURT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT IS FINE TOO. MAKE A MOTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHERE WE AVOID ALL THE STATUTORY -- ALL APPOINTED DEPARTMENT HEADS BY COMMISSIONERS COURT. DO I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT DOES IT. [ Adjournment in Memory (upon request)] THAT CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA TO TODAY. AND WE WILL NOW MOVE TO ADJOURNMENTS IN MEMORY OF. I THINK THERE ARE A FEW. AND I WILL START CAN COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. YOU HAD ONE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YES, MA'AM. I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION HAROLD WAYNE CRAWFORD WHO PASSED AWAY SEPTEMBER 2021. HE WAS AGE 88 OF PORT ARAN SUS, TEXAS, FORMALLY FROM KILLEEN. DRAFTED INTO THE ARMY. THE SMALL-TOWN WENT TO CAMP ATLEBURY AND STATIONED IN GERMANY, MISSOURI, FORT CARSON, COLORADO, FORT KNOX, KENTUCKY, OKINAWA, JAPAN AND FORT HOOD. TRULY AN AMERICAN HERO. I WANT TO OFFER OUR CONDOLENCES OF HAROLD WAYNE CRAWFORD OF PORT ARANSUU. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: ROGELIO LOPEZ PASSED AWAY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. OF RIO GRANDE HIGH SCHOOL IN 1917. HE SERVED HONORABLY IN THE U.S. ARMY AND UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS WHERE HE BECAME ONE OF THE FIRST HISPANICS TO LEARN A BACHELOR OF SCIENCE OF COLLEGE [05:50:03] OF ENGINEERING AND MARRIED THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE AND HAD THREE CHILDREN CYNTHIA, ROGER AND GRACE LOPEZ DUDLEY. THEY HAVE MANY GRANDCHILDREN. AND CELEBRATE OF LIFE WAS SET GREATED LAST WEEK. MY FAMILY HAS KNOWN HIM ALL MY LIFE. I HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN HIM. AND HE WAS SUCH AN AMAZING ROLE MODEL. HE RAN FOR SCHOOL BOARD AT ONE TIME AND HE WAS A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN AND MORE IMPORTANTLY HE WAS STRONG IN HIS FAITH AND WITH HIS FAMILY AND WITH HIS CHURCH. SO HE WILL BE MISSED. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I THINK I HAVE -- I WANT TO SAY ONE. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, GO AHEAD. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SAY PRAYERS AND COL DOLL LENSES NANCY AND HER FAMILY. HER MOM PASSED AWAY, AND SHE WAS VERY ACTIVE COMMUNITY ENTIRE FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND OUR PRAYERS GO OUT TO THE FAMILY. THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. I HAVE A VERY SAD ONE BECAUSE IT INVOLVES GILBERT COUNTY JUDGE SINES. HE DIED IN GEORGETOWN, TEXAS, AFTER ATTENDING A CONFERENCE FOR COUNTY JUDGES. HE WAS ONLY 44 YEARS OLD. HE LEAVES BEHIND A LOVING FAMILY, JUDGE SINES WAS VERY ACTIVE IN OUR COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT AND JUST A REGIONAL COUNTY JUDGE ON ALL THE MAT EVERYS THAT AFFECTED US PARTICULARLY DURING COVID-19. I DON'T HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT HIS SERVICES BUT I HOPE TO PROVIDE THAT TO YOU THROUGH THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR. I KNOW THAT JUDGE SINE WORKS WAS A GRADUATE OF THE TEXAS SCHOOL OF LAW AND A PROUD VETERAN. AND OUR CONDOLENCES GO TO ALL OF OUR FRIEND AND COLLEAGUES IN D, VAL COUNTY THAT ARE MOURNING THE LOSS TODAY. WITH THAT THAT CONCLUDES OUR ADJOURNMENTS IN MEMORY AND WE STAND ADJOURNED AT 4:11 P.M. THAN * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.