C. County Judge will call roll, note date, time, and location of meeting, and certify a quorum is present.

[1. Discuss the COVID-19 response, plans for COVID-19 testing, alternative care sites, Governor Orders, amended Orders, and activities related to area economic recovery; receive update from the Nueces County Emergency Operations Center.]

YOU WANT TO RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY ASK YOU TO RAISE YOUR HAND WITH THE ICON OF THE HAND THAT WE WILL MOVE ONTO REPORTS AND BECAUSE WE JUST HAD ONE I DID NOT ASK GARRETT TO COME DOWN BUT HE IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS I JUST WANT TO REPORT THAT AS OF YESTERDAY WE HAD 187 PEOPLE IN THE HOSPITAL, 82 IN ICU AND OUR CASES CONTINUED TO DECLINE WHICH IS A GOOD THING AND RICK HAS SERVED STATEWIDE MY GOODNESS OVER 1600 INDIVIDUALS AND WE HAVE DONE DOUBLE THAT AT OUR PHYSICIANS WEST LOCATION WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE LINEUP AT LOCATIONS FOR VACCINATION THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF ALL

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OF THOSE AT YOUR DISPOSAL IF YOU NEED TO KNOW WHERE WE WILL BE LOCATED HI THANK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN PROVIDE YOU AND SO WE SPEAK WITH ONE UNIFIED MESSAGE AND CDC AND THOSE FULLY VACCINATED WITH A PFIZER ONLY A PFIZER COVID-19 VACCINE ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE ELIGIBLE ARE LISTED ON OUR WEBSITE BUT THOSE INCLUDE PEOPLE OVER 65 YEARS OF AGE AND THOSE WITH UNDERLYING MEDICAL CONDITIONS OF 18 AND OLDER ALSO A REQUIREMENT OF SIX MONTHS UNLESS YOU ARE IMMUNOCOMPROMISED HAS BEEN ISSUED AS WELL THERE IS A LIST OF MEDICAL CONDITIONS IF YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WHICH ONES THOSE ARE AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER GREAT OPPORTUNITIES TO FIND OUT WHERE WE HAVE WHAT I WILL CALL THE SATELLITE VACCINATION CLINIC GOODWILL, POPLAR BLUFF AND MANY OTHERS LOTS OF SCHOOLS I BELIEVE I SAW ON THE CALENDAR THIS WEEK SO WITH THAT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE, ALL OF THAT MESSAGING CAN BE FOUND VERY EASILY BUT ACTUALLY, HERE COMES GARRETT GARRETT IF ANYONE HAD ANY QUESTIONS THEY COULD REFER TO YOU AND I DO WANT TO TELL YOU THAT WE ARE VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING OUR NUMBERS LIKE EL PASO, GARRETT, I WAS THRILLED THIS MORNING TO ANOTHER IS A TEXAS COUNTY THAT HAS SHOT FOR THE MOON AND HIT IT THAT'S EL PASO COUNTY THEY HAVE 75 PERCENT OF THEIR POPULATION VACCINATED AND BY DOING SO THEY ARE ONE OF THE LOWEST RATES IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS AND THIS TELLS US ONE THING IF WE CAN GET OUR VACCINATION RATES UP I WE ARE GOING TO KEEP OUR POSITIVITY RATES DOWN LOW. I WILL APPEAL TO YOU AND YIELD TO THE COMMISSION COMMISSIONER GARRETT IS HERE TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON ANY OF OUR RESPONSE.

COMMISSIONERS. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE ARE AWARE THAT FRIDAY THE CDC DID CLEAR THE THIRD DOSE OR BOOSTER SHOTS FOR PEOPLE IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS WE ARE READY FOR THAT WE HAVE THE MATERIAL FOR THAT THAT WE WILL BE MAKING AVAILABLE ON OUR NEW SITE THAT I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE OTHER DAY SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE AWARE OF THAT AND OTHER THAN THAT I DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING.

>> COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS?

>> JUST IN GENERAL I KNOW WE HAVE HAD VERY HEAVY AGENDAS WHICH IS GOOD I APPRECIATE THE WORK WE ARE TRYING TO TACKLE FOR THE COUNTY BUT IF WE COULD SEE IN THE FUTURE MAYBE WE COULD GET ÃTO COME IN DURING THESE PRESENTATIONS AND IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE GARRETT AND I KNOW SHE DOES THAT A LOT FOR THE CITY AND I DON'T REQUIRE HER TO BE HERE THAT OFTEN AND THIS WEEK JUST HAVE HER COME IN AND IF THERE'S NOT MUCH THAT'S FINE WE COULD JUST

DO THAT. >> WOULD YOU BE AS GOOD TO MAKE

THAT HAPPEN FOR US? >> IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

>> SHE WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO SO AND DOCTOR WILMONT IS A WONDERFUL SECOND IF YOU DON'T MIND MAKE SURE THEY ARE JUST CHECK WITH US EVERY MEETING AND SEE IF THERE'S IS A GOOD

MEETING TO COME TO? >> JUDGE I HAVE A QUESTION.

AGAIN, YOU MIGHT HAVE SAID, I DON'T REMEMBER IF WE APPROVED MR. GARRETT'S CONTRACT?

I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. >> YOU DID NOT RATIFY THE PAYMENT TO THE COMPANY THAT BROUGHT MR. GARRETT THAT AND IT'S IMMATERIAL.

WE ASKED FOR THE RATIFICATION AND THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU.

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ALRIGHT SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE MINUTES AND WE HAVE PREPARED MULTIPLE FOR SEPTEMBER 8 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.KAY.

AND ALSO AVAILABLE FOR YOUR REVIEW. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND A SECOND

[1. Discuss and consider approving order designating Wednesday as the day of the week that Court will meet in regular term for fiscal year 2021-2022, pursuant to Section 81.005 of the Texas Local Government Code.]

FOR SEPTEMBER 13 APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

A DAY OF THE WEEKEND THE COURT WILL MEET IN THE REGULAR TERM AGENDA ITEM A1 PURSUANT TO THE LOCAL ÃSOMETHING WE DO EVERY YEAR. SOON IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU DO EVERY YEAR THAT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE REQUIRES YOU TO SET THE DAY OF THE WEEK THAT YOU ARE CONVENING AND WE BRING IT TO THE LAST MEETING OF THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR SO THIS WAS AN ORDER THAT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE THE ONE YOU DID LAST YEAR JUST DESIGNATING WEDNESDAY AS THE DAY OF THE WEEK THAT YOU WOULD MEET IN REGULAR TERM.

>> IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE WEDNESDAY AS WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ALTHOUGH SOME FAVOR TO SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. NOW WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER TWO WHICH IS A SUPPLEMENTAL

[2. Discuss and consider approval of Supplemental Agreement with John Breier for purposes of providing services to the Nueces County Industrial Commission AKA Nueces County Development Commission related to their Economic Development Mission in Nueces County.]

AGREEMENT WITH JOHN BRIAR FOR PURPOSES OF PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE NUECES COUNTY INDUSTRIAL COMMISSION THROUGH THE RELATING TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT I WILL ASK TERESA TO HELP BRING FORTH THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THIS THAT'S A THREE MONTH CONTRACT ONLY AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FUNDS ARE THERE AND JUST TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE HAVE A WRITTEN CONTRACT FOR THE DOLLARS THAT WE APPROPRIATED THROUGH DECEMBER 31 SO THEY CAN AND THEN JOHN IS ON THE LINE AND HE MIGHT MAKE A SMALL PRESENTATION AFTER WE TALK FUNDING SO HE CAN TELL YOU ACTUALLY IF HE IS NOT IN GALVESTON HE WILL BE IN GALVESTON TOMORROW BEFORE THE NUECES COUNTY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AS WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS THIS WEEK IN THE UPCOMING WEEKS AND ALL OF OUR OPPORTUNITIES AND

>> AND THEY ARE APPROPRIATED THROUGH DECEMBER.

>> JOHN, LET ME ASK IF THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING TERESA'S INFORMATION? JOHN, DO YOU WANT TO BRIEFLY GIVE THE COURT SOME BACKGROUND AS TO WHAT THE AND CDC IS WORKING ON AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT EFFORTS YOU ARE LEADING? I'M SORRY JOHN, WE HAVE TO GET YOU OFF OF MUTE. THERE HE IS.

>> I CAN TALK NOW. >> COMMISSIONERS JUDGE I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY AND I AM EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THE END CDC HAS BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH OVER THIS FIRST YEAR AND JUST SETTING THE STAGE FOR THIS THERE ARE THREE THINGS IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IDENTITY LIKE THE END CDC AND ÃN CDC AND THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN DOING THIS AND LET ME SET THE STAGE THERE ARE THREE THINGS I AM TRYING TO RECRUIT NEW INDUSTRIES INTO THE COMMUNITY TO NOT JUST RE-DIVIDE THE ECONOMIC BY BUT TO EXPAND THAT AND THE NEXT ONE IS TO HELP EXISTING INDUSTRIES AND OVER THE LAST YEAR THAT HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE OBVIOUSLY WITH COVID BUT THE NCDC REALLY HAS STEPPED

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UP WITH A NUMBER OF COMMITTEES TO LOOK AT WAYS THAT THEY CAN HELP THOSE COMPANIES THAT LIVE AND BREATHE THE LAST THING IS WORKING ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND VISION, AND OTHER WAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS THAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF OUR COUNTY CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND IN PREPARING FOR THE FUTURE WITH NEW INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE OTHER THING IS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT THE VISION IS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THE COUNTY AND IN THIS CASE ARE COMMISSIONERS AND THE JUDGE AND AFTER A YEARS TIME THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT WE TOUCH AND DO THAT BEST WAY TO HANDLE THIS WOULD BE TO TEACH EACH ONE OF THESE CATEGORIES AND THINGS THAT WOULD HAPPEN WITHIN THOSE CATEGORIES OF COURSE WHEN IT COMES TO RECRUITING THE ONE THAT MOST PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THAT AND IT'S AMAZON WHAT A GREAT ADDITION IT WILL BE A GOOD ADDITION TO THE TAX ASSESSOR TO IDENTIFY WHEN WE WILL NOW WHEN THE EQUIPMENT WILL BE TAXED AND ADDITIONAL TYPE OF REVENUE AND WE KEEP UP WITH THAT STUFF NOT TO MENTION IT'S IN OUR LOCATION AND AS MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT IS THE ONE THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT AND THERE ARE REAL OPPORTUNITIES AND A COUPLE OF THOSE THE COMPANIES THEMSELVES HAVE ASKED THAT WE DO NOT DIVULGE THEIR NAME SO I WILL JUST TALK AND GENERALIZATIONS THERE IS AN AVIATION RELATED COMPANY ACTUALLY TO VISIT CORPUS CHRISTI THEY FOUND THAT WE THE NCDC HAD WE DISCOVERED THAT I HAD SOME CONTACTS THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL AND THEY ARE LOOKING TO NOT BRING THE BUSINESS YEAR BUT TO PROVIDE SERVICES OTHER PLACES AND WE COULD PUT THEM IN TOUCH WITH FOLKS WHO MAKE THIS A MORE VIABLE OPPORTUNITY AND WE HAD SOME ELECTRIC COMPANIES AND ONE IS ÃPOWER AND THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT AND IT CAME TO TALKING ABOUT HOW THE COMPOULD AND SHOULD AND IS LOOKING TO HELP CORPUS CHRISTI AND CORPUS CHRISTI. [INDISCERNIBLE] THIS COMPANY HAS A PRODUCT THAT THEY ARE BRINGING IN AND THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING THAT POWER TO THE AREA AND THE INDUSTRIAL BASE BUT THIS MAY BE ABLE TO HELP SOME OF THE ISSUES SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS AND IT'S ONE THAT WE HELP BENEFITS AND SOME TIME HE MAY TALK A LITTLE TOO LOW SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS I ASK YOU TO LET ME KNOW AND I WILL BE GET YOU Ã ABLE TO GET YOU MORE INFORMATION WE HAVE ANOTHER BATTERY COMPANY THAT WE ARE WORKING ON AND IT'S ONE THAT WE HAVE THAT THEY HAVE ASKED US NOT TO DIVULGE THEIR NAME AND THIS IS ANOTHER COMPANY THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH IF AND WHEN THE ÃMATERIALIZE THE JOBS AND THE TAX BASE WORKING ON RECRUITMENT AND THOSE OF THE

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WOUNDS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ENTITIES AND IT'S A PROJECT THAT REALLY HAS SOME SENSE TO IT IN THE FORM OF HELPING THE PORCH AT THE A AND M CORPUS CHRISTI WE DISCOVERED THROUGH WORK WITH A&M SYSTEMS THAT DOCTOR JIM WALL WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THE RESEARCH FOR ALL OF THE SYSTEM JIM'S OLD FRIEND I HAPPEN TO BE TALKING AND HE IS WORKING ON PART OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE ARMY FUTURE AND HE SAID I'M WORKING ON THIS PROJECT TO DEVELOP A SITUATION PROGRAM USING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE THAT CAN HELP LARGE COMMERCIAL PORTS BE MORE EFFECTIVE AND MORE EFFICIENT AND JIM DID YOU TALK TO THE PEOPLE AND CORPUS CHRISTI AND HE SAID BY THE WAY, NOT A TEACHING POSITION AND AND WITH JIM POLLOCK AT THE PORT WE ASKED DOCTOR WALL AND HE SAID IT DOWN IN ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO WE HAD OUR FIRST STRATEGY SESSION IN BOTH SEAPORT AND IN CORPUS CHRISTI SO THE VALUE IN THIS AND THE POTENTIAL TO HELP THE PORCH AND ANOTHER FOCUS OF THE VISION I KNOW THAT THE PRESIDENT OUT IN CORPUS CHRISTI IS. [INDISCERNIBLE] ABOUT IT IN THE JUDGE HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS, HOW CAN WE HELP A&M CORPUS CHRISTI BECOME A REAL CAPABILITY SO HELPING EXISTING ORGANIZATIONS AT THE SAME TIME LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO DEVELOP OUR ORGANIZATIONS HERE LIKE THESE MAJOR ENTITIES AND SOMETHING SO MUCH MORE WITH THE GOAL IN THE POTENTIAL OF HELPING TO CREATE A HIGH TECH INDUSTRY IN CORPUS CHRISTI AND A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY THINK THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO HAPPEN BUT YOU NEED TO DEVELOP A HIGH TECH INDUSTRY AND YOU NEED RESEARCH UNIVERSITY AND YOU NEED TO HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO LIVE BECAUSE THE RAW PRODUCT OF A HIGH TECH INDUSTRY IS THE CAPITAL CREATED AT THE RESEARCH UNIVERSITY AND WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO LIVE SO IT'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY. AND SO MANY THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO INFRASTRUCTURE WE HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK WITH THE CDC AND THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH REPURPOSED SING AND REUSE OF OUR SISTER ORACLE ÃIT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY BUT WITH THAT OPPORTUNITY COMES THE CHALLENGE OF WHAT THE JUDGE IS WORKING ON, THE NCDC HAS BEEN WORKING ON IT. AND THAT IS HOW WE MAKE SURE THAT WE GET LOCAL CONTROL OF REDISTRIBUTION OF THE EASEMENT WHEN THE BRIDGE COMES DOWN FATS AWFULLY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS

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WE ACTUALLY HAD SOME DEVELOPERS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN IT ONE OF THOSE DEVELOPERS PLAYED A GREAT ROLE IN IDENTIFYING HOW SOME OF THAT REPURPOSED PROPERTY MAY BE USED AND IS IMPORTANT TO GET REALLY LARGE DEVELOPERS INTERESTED IN THE COURTHOUSE AND THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON AND THAT'S REACHING OUT AROUND THE COUNTRY TO A LARGE NATIONAL DEVELOPER TELLING THEM ABOUT THE REAL OPPORTUNITIES IN THE CORPUS FUTURE AND THE OTHER ONE IS THE OYSTER RESTORATION PROJECT AND NORTH BEACH WE DON'T NEED TO GO INTO THAT EVERYBODY WITH ALL THE COMMISSIONERS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

WHAT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR NUECES COUNTY BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS AND ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON OVER THE LAST MONTH OR TWO MONTHS AND THAT IS WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND THE CORE ACTUALLY CONTACTED THE JUDGE AND HIGHLIGHTED THE FACT THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO THE JUDGE AND HOW THEY COULD REPURPOSE SETTLEMENT THROUGH THE STRATEGIC AND THE TYPE THAT IS COMING OUT OF THE PROCESS AND OVER THE LAST MONTH AND AND A HALF OR SO I HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH THE CORE, THE JUDGES MET WITH THE COMMANDER AND WE HAVE A FOLLOW-UP MEETING SET FOR I'M GOING TO BE MEETING WHAT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY SOMETHING WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THREE MEMBERS OF THE NCDC THAT EACH HAVE A VERY UNIQUE EXPERIENCE IN RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CORE, OF COURSE MOST PEOPLE WOULDN'T THINK ABOUT JOHN DAWSON IN CHARGE OF THE FACILITIES HE'S ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS AND DEVELOPMENT, MAINTENANCE, UPKEEP AT CORPUS CHRISTI IN A PREVIOUS LIFE DOCTOR DAWSON WAS A PRIVATE AREA DEVELOPER WORKING WITH THE CITY OF FORT WORTH WHEN THEY DID THEIR MAJOR REPURPOSED SING OF THE TRINITY RIVER SO WE HAVE PEOPLE ON THE NCDC CATHERINE HILLIARD, WAYNE SQUIRES, BOTH EXPERIENCED WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO HELP WITH THESE PROJECTS AND THE JUDGE SAID I WOULD BE SURE TO AND I HAVE NOT BEEN PROBABLY BUT THAT IS SORT OF A THUMBNAIL AND IT REALLY IS ONLY A THUMBNAIL BECAUSE THE END CDC HAS BEEN SO ACTIVE IN OTHER THINGS PUTTING ORGANIZATIONS TOGETHER ON WEDNESDAY THIS WEEK WE ORGANIZED MS. BOYD FROM STONE WATER AND JASON GREEN WHO MANAGES OUR FAIRGROUND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LUNCH MEETING WHERE BOTH OF THOSE WILL BRING THEIR STAFF SO WE CAN HAVE THEM WORK MORE TOGETHER TO BRING MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO OUR FAIRGROUND I COULD GO ON BUT I WILL STOP THERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE LET ME KNOW. SUE MCCALL MAKE CERTAIN I JUST

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WANT TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE THIS COURT IS MINDFUL THAT WE MADE A COMMITMENT, WHICH WAS A GOOD COMMITMENT AND WE PUT $50,000 IN FROM THE COURT TOWARDS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUT ALL THE BURDEN HAS FALLEN ON YOU GUYS TO GET THE ADVANCE COMMITMENT THAT HE WOULD GO RAISE THE REST AND ALSO YOU WERE ABLE TO CREATE THAT RELATIONSHIP FOR THE PAST YEAR AND AND A HALF WITH THE DIRECTOR AND AS A REPORT ÃTHIS MEETING IS A CARRYOVER BUT CHAIRMAN'S ON CAME AND SAID IT'S HIS INTENTION BASED ON ALL OF YOUR WORK TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMITTEE TO BE ABLE TO NOT JUST EXTEND THEIR ALLOCATION OF FUNDS BUT TO EXPAND IT AND THAT SOMETHING I WANTED THE COURT TO KNOW THAT'S THANKS TO YOU AND THANKS TO YOU OBVIOUSLY THE RELATIONSHIP BUILDING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE JOHN OVER THE LAST YEAR AND AND A HALF AND I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT UNLIKE OTHER CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS ONE IS FOR THREE MONTHS AND IT IS A FUNDED SOURCE BECAUSE OF THE DOLLARS THAT WE DO YOU HAVE AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE GOT THEM ALLOCATED FROM OUTSIDE SOURCES SO IT DOES NOT IMPACT US THE WAY OF THEIR PARTICULAR CONTRACTS OF GU OTHER THAN WE HAVE MADE A COMMITMENT WHICH IS THE RIGHT ONE TO INVEST SOME MONEY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS HERE FOR MR. BREYER? SUE MCDANIEL, THIS GOT BROUGHT UP IN THE BUDGET AND THE DATA GOT BROUGHT UP AND I CONFUSED AS TO WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM SO IT HAS GIVEN US 90 AND DURING THE CONVERSATION 90 AND 50 IS 140 AND HUNDRED AND 4387 AND I DON'T SEE AND MAYBE I'M NOT SEEING IT HIS IS ABOUT 84,000 SO I NEED YOU TO HELP ME. SMITH THE COMMISSIONERS COURT APPLIES FOR CAPITAL CREDITS FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS THEY ARE FOR ANYONE WHO DOESN'T RECEIVE THEIR CREDITS FOR THIS IT COMES IN FOR STATE AND THEY DISTRIBUTED TO THE COUNTY AND THEY CAN BE USED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SO ADDITIONAL FUNDS COMING FROM CAPITAL CREDIT OF

THOSE FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR OTHER THINGS >> CORRECT.

SO TECHNICALITY I WILL GIVE YOU A HEATED DISCUSSION THE COUNTY IS PUTTING IN 95,000 AND 50,000 FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GENERAL FUND REVENUE SO THEY ARE PUTTING IN 145,000 AND SOME

WAY SHAPE OR FORM. >> I BELIEVE THEY HAVE INCREASED THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO 125.

>> I AM SAYING THE COUNTY Ã FROM THE STATE AND THE COUNTY'S MONEY THAT THE COUNTY CAN USE

FOR WHATEVER >> THERE ARE LIMITED USES IN ONE IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, YES. I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND BUT THE MAIN ONE IS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE AS REPRESENTING PEOPLE WHO MOVED OUT AND DID NOT TAKE THEIR CREDIT AND THE CO-OP FOR THE ELECTRICITY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE OR FOR CAPITAL AND I BELIEVE

>> JUST SO I AM CLEAR BECAUSE IT DOESN'T ADD UP FOR ME THE COUNTY IS PUTTING IN TWO FORMS, HUNDRED 45,000 AND ÃIS PUTTING IN 90 AT THE MOMENT THAT'S 235 SO IS THE NEW BUDGET FOR 2122

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GOING UP? RESISTING 183.

>> AND HOW WE ORIGINALLY SAID IT WAS NOT PART OF THE BUDGET IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.AS I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THIS ACCOUNT AND I WAS DOING SOME HOMEWORK ON IT THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF MONEY THAT PASSES THROUGH THIS 1389 ACCOUNT.

>> WHICH ONE? >> THIS ENTITY

>> THIS COVERS OUR SALARIES AND ANY REGULAR OFFICE EXPENSES I DON'T REMEMBER TRANSFERRING ANY FUNDS. I HAVE STARTED ONE IN THREE OF 20 IN A RUN THROUGH THE BOTTOM.

IT RUNS THROUGH MY LINE OF 20 AND IT SHOWS 1,000,006 IN AN MILLION SIX OUT I HAVE TO

RESEARCH THAT >> I THINK THAT MUST BE WRONG I WILL HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT

>> THERE IS NO TRANSACTION LIKE THAT >> THAT IS WHY I AM ASKING BECAUSE IT DIDN'T ADD UP I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THIS IS

>> DALE, JUST REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THAT'S COMING UP WE HAVE THREE EMPLOYEES WE HAVE TO EMPLOYEES WE HAD CHILL STRESSED NECK LAST YEAR AS A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE AND MR. HOPKINS THE DEPUTY MR. BREYER WHO DOES NOT RECEIVE BENEFITS THAT A CONTRACT.

>> THIS YEAR WE HAD A SENIOR CLERK GREAT SOON SO JILL IS MOVING FROM TEMPORARY TO A SENIOR CLERK THAT WAS PART OF OUR BUDGET AND THAT'S WHY I AM TELLING YOU THERE'S NO WAY THE MILLION SIX BECAUSE THOSE OF THE THINGS THAT GO THROUGH THEIR AND VISIT ÃTO THE THING IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH WHEN WE STARTED THIS THERE ARE INITIAL EXPENSES THAT ARE ONE-TIME EXPENSES AND IS A COMPUTER A DESK, A CHAIR, THE SET UP, THOSE ARE ONE-TIME AND THEY DO

NOT REOCCUR AT ALL. >> JENNY, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING

ABOUT THIS AT ALL? >> IF YOU WILL EMAIL ME WHATEVER REQUEST YOU HAVE WE WILL GET ON IT.

>> WILL YOU GO AHEAD AND PASS IT THIS WAY SO WE CAN SEE? JUST PASS IT TO TERESA SO SHE CAN MAKE COPIES. BUT WE SAY THESE THINGS, THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME TO DISCUSS IT. LET'S GET COPIES OF IT DO YOU HAVE A HIGHLIGHTER?

>> IS AT THE BOTTOM, YOU CAN SEE IT CLEARLY.

>> AND >> THERE IS NO WAY IT'S 1,000,600 LET'S GET THAT CLEARED UP IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE ONLY 2 EMPLOYEES PLUS ONE CONTRACT SO ANY INSINUATION THAT IS MORE THAN THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEARED UP IMMEDIATELY.

>> LET'S LOOK AT THAT. >> HE DOESN'T RECOLLECT ANY MILLION DOLLARS GOING THROUGH THERE.

>> SO AGAIN JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS ON THAT, OH NO YOU DIDN'T.

IN THE 1389 ACCOUNT I AM LOOKING AT THE REGULAR CATEGORY AND AGAIN MAYBE I'M NOT SEEING IT RIGHT BUT I AM NOT SEEING MR. BREYER'S INCLUDED IN THE $183,000 BUDGET AND

>> AND FOR BUDGET PURPOSES IF WE ADD THIS AS A CONTINUATION OF A CONTRACT

>> SO THIS 183 487 IS MORE THAN SEVEN A MONTH BECAUSE EVERY MONTH IS ABOUT 680 FOR TRAVEL SO IT'S WELL OVER 90,000 SO THIS 183+90 IS 273 WHICH IS WHAT IS BEING PUT INTO THIS UNLESS I AM MISSING SOMETHING BECAUSE THIS IS THE SPECIAL REVENUE I AM NOT UNDERSTANDING

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WHERE HIS IS IN HERE >> WAS NOT AN ITEM THAT WAS Ã DURING THE CONTINUATION AND THEY WERE WORKING WITH THE NCDC TO DETERMINE AT THAT POINT IN TIME

>> AND I HAVE TO GO BACK. SO I GET 145, 95 FROM THE CREDITS 50 FROM THE GENERAL

FUND IS 145 YOU'RE SAYING IN THIS 183 THAT >> I AM STILL TRYING TO FIGURE

OUT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. >> MR. BREYER'S CONTRACT.

>> THREE MONTHS IS 21,000 NOT 90,000.

>> HE MAKES ÃA MONTH RATE >> TIMES THREE.

>> THIS IS 2020 AND 2021 AND CIVIC PART OF THE ESTIMATE IS IF WE PAID ANYTHING IT SHOULD BE. [INDISCERNIBLE] CERTIFICATE SHOULD BE REPORTED UNDER WHAT?

>> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY? >> AGAIN WHATEVER YOU ARE PROVIDING WE NEED TO GET A COPY OF EVERYTHING AFTER DALE LOOKS OUT LET'S GET TERESA TO MAKE COPIES. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY SUPPLEMENT THE BUDGET FOR 2021 WAS 147 IN THE BUDGET FOR 122 IS 183 FOR THE EXTRA SO THE 183 47

INCLUDES THE THREE MONTHS >> WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO IS PART OF THE BUDGET WORKSHOP THAT SHEET HAS BEEN PART OF THE BUDGET AND BUDGET WORKSHOP AND I AM JUST POINTING OUT WE HAVE HAD THIS DOCUMENT BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW LAST YEAR'S BUDGET WAS DID YOU SAY 147? SO 90 THAT THE COURT GAVE US +50 IS 140 SO OUT OF THE ONE $47,000 BUDGET, 140,008 DELTA

OF 7000 >> WE GOT 95 IN TAX CREDIT +50 IS 145

>> I AM SAYING THE ONE $47,000 BUDGET IS COVERED BY 50+90. 90+50 AND THEN DELTA OF SEVEN DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT?

>> I THINK SO. >> LET'S DOUBLE CHECK IT.

>> AND LAST YEAR THE BUDGET WAS 147,000 BY YOUR OWN COMMENTS IS THAT CORRECT?

>> AND YOU CAN SEE THE REVENUE AS A TAX CREDIT COMING IN IS NOT A LOCAL AGREEMENT IS THAT THE PORT MONEY THE PORT MONEY IS 90 I DON'T SEE IS THERE 95 UP THERE THAT I AM NOT SEEING?

>> IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THAT BECAUSE THE WAY IT WAS BROUGHT IN AND THE TRANSFER FROM

ANOTHER FUND AND SO YOU MAY SEE A TRANSFER IN >> I GUESS WHEN I AM SAYING IS THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHAT THE BUDGET WAS AND IT WAS HUNDRED $47,000.

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>> I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THESE NUMBERS.

>> WHAT WE SPENT WAS HUNDRED 47,000. >> IT WAS 138.

>> BUT 50 YOU AGREE WE APPROPRIATED AND 90 CAME IN FROM THE PORT SO THAT'S 145.

AND WE SPENT 147. IS THERE ANY CONFUSION ABOUT THAT AT ALL FROM LAST YEAR?

>> AND THE CREDITS HAVE NOT BEEN, THEY ARE NOT AT ISSUE FOR LAST YEAR.

FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION AND 90+50 IS 140 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SET THE BASELINE BECAUSE YOU HAVE THROWN AT A LOT OF NUMBERS PAID 1.6 183 95 AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT CONFUSING ANYBODY BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE FOR THE COUNTY UNDER THE COUNTY EMPLOYEE STATUS WHEN ONE

CONTRACTOR AND TERESA IS HERE. >> AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH

>> SO >> EXCUSE ME. THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD CAME TO TELL THE COURT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HE IS GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND HE BELIEVES IT WILL BE SUPPORTED ALTHOUGH HE CANNOT OBVIOUSLY KNOW FOR SURE UNTIL THE FUTURE ARRIVES THAT THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE US FROM 90 AND RECOMMENDED 125 AND THAT'S A GAME CHANGER.

>> THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE COURT DISCUSSED GRADE >> THAT IS THE NCDC WORKING THAT RELATIONSHIP AND IS THERE UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN YOU SHOW PROGRESS YOU SHOULD BE

REWARDED FOR THAT PROGRESS. >> I WENT TO GO BACK TO JAIL PLEASE IF YOU DON'T MIND AND THE 2021 COULD IT BE THE OTHER INCOME?

>> THE OTHER INFORMATION YOU PROVIDE IS THE RUNNING TOTAL ON ALL ACCOUNTS INCLUDING YOUR

CASH ACCOUNTS AND YOUR LIABILITY ACCOUNTS. >> ON THE SUMMARY SHEET

>> THE BUDGET SHEET SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THOSE CREDITS ARE FOR 21 AND 22

>> SO WE HAD THE CREDITS GOING TO THE FAMILY PROTECTION FUNDS AND WE WOULD TRANSFER THEM THERE SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE CREDIT HERE BUT WE WOULD DECIDE TO MOVE THOSE CAPITAL CREDITS NOW AND YOU WILL SEE IN 21 AND 22 SUFFER THIS POINT IN TIME THOSE DO NOT EXIST.

>> NOBODY HAS USE THEM. >> IT'S NOT HERE ANYWHERE AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WAS COMING FROM SO YOU'VE SAID BASICALLY THOSE CREDITS AREN'T GOING IN

HERE AND >> THEY ARE BUDGETED FOR. BUT THEY ARE NOT IN THIS

BUDGET. >> THE HAIR SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE PRESERVATION FUNDS FAMILY PROTECTION FUNDS. THEY ARE NOT INHERENT ALSO WE KNOW THIS BUDGET HAS 125,000 AND 55 WITH THE OTHER INCOME?

>> AVERAGING ANYWHERE FROM 40 TO 90 AND WE WANTED TO BE MORE CONSERVATIVE SO WE BUDGETED AT

55. >> THERE ARE SOME CAPITAL CREDITS GOING IN SO THEY ARE PUTTING IN 105,000 AND THEN THE REPORT BECAUSE I AM LOOKING AT THE GENERAL FUND TRANSFER IN OTHER INCOME, 55 AND THEN THE BOARD PUTS IN 125 WHICH IS ON A BUDGET, THAT IS 230 AND OUR BUDGET IS 183.

>> IS IT JUST EXTRA? CHRISTIAN? JUST IN CASE?

>> MY QUESTION IS WHY WE ARE HAVING MORE REVENUE THAN THE BUDGETED AMOUNT.

SOME OF THAT SOMETHING WE CAN QUALIFY FOR AND WE CAN DEFINITELY REDUCE THIS TO A

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ZERO BALANCE FUND AND THERE COULD BE A CHANCE WHERE ADDITIONAL FUNDS AS YOU MENTIONED THIS NOT INCLUDE THE CONTRACT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AT THE MOMENT SO THAT'S PART OF

YOUR CONTINGENCY. >> SO IT DOES INCLUDE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES IN HERE. THERE'S THREE MONTHS OF IT IN

THERE. >> YOU CAN REDUCE THAT IT'S THERE FOR CHRISTIAN BUT IS NOT NECESSARY.

>> AND I DON'T KNOW, WE NEED TO WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE PORT DOES BUT IF YOU COULD JUST PUT THAT ON YOUR LIST TO REVISIT BECAUSE HE DOESN'T KNOW FOR SURE TILL THEY VOTE ON SO WHEN THAT IS DONE YOU NEED TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND WE PUT THIS IN A CONTINGENCY FUND AND SO IF THIS IS A CONTINGENCY THING THERE'S JUST TECHNICAL QUESTIONS I COULDN'T GET IT ALL TO ADD UP RIGHT AND THE REVENUE WAS MORE THAN WAS BUDGETED AND YOU ANSWERED THOSE QUESTIONS

AND I WILL GIVE YOU SOME TIME TO DIGEST THAT >> ALSO IF YOU TAKE OUT CONTINGENCIES AND YOU TAKE OUT 183-33 WITH THE 50,000 WE PUT IN WITH THE 125 THAT IS SCHEDULED, YOU HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO COVER THE ENTIRE BUDGET SO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE CONTINGENCY APPROPRIATIONS YOU COULD TELL DALE, I THINK YOU SHOULD ASK THE COURT TO DIRECT DALE TO REDUCE THAT CONTINGENCY APPROPRIATIONS BUT LET'S NOT ACT LIKE IT'S NOT

COVERED BECAUSE IT IS COVERED. >> I'M NOT ACTING LIKE ANYTHING I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS BECAUSE THE NUMBERS DON'T ADD UP.

>> I'M JUST WONDERING WHY WE DIDN'T ASK THESE QUESTIONS FOR THE LAST THREE WEEKS.

>> BECAUSE JUDGE, THE CONTRACT IS BEFORE US.

>> I'M NOT ACTING LIKE ANYTHING.

>> GOT IT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE FLOATED OUT A 1.654 MILLION THAT DALE ANSWERS THAT HE IS REFERRING TO THE LAST PAGE OF THE DOCUMENT HE HAD PRINTED OUT THAT SAID NUECES COUNTY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION DEBIT AND CREDIT DEBITED 1654 WAS A DIFFERENCE OF ONE PENNY IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO WHEN YOU SAID THERE'S 1,000,006 GOING INTO THE ACCOUNT? AND IT SHOWS YOU AS A COMPLETE ZEROING OUT?

WHY DID IT DO THAT? >> WHY DO WE HAVE 1.6 MILLION BASED ON THE BUDGET OF THIS

DEPARTMENT WHICH IS 150,000 A YEAR >> DO YOU SEE WHERE IT SAYS

DEBIT AND CREDIT? >> I KNOW HOW TO READ THESE VERY WELL. HOW COULD YOU HAVE BUDGETED?

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. BECAUSE IT SHOWS 1,000,006 IN 1,000,006 OUT ON A DEPARTMENT THAT HAS $160,000 BUDGET THAT DOESN'T ADD UP BUT THERE MAY BE A REASONABLE EXPLANATION AND MAYBE DALE CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.

>> YOU ARE NOT INSINUATING THAT IT MILLION SIX WHEN INTO THIS ACCOUNT BECAUSE IT IS THE DEBIT LIKE ALL THE SAME DAY IT'S LIKE A DEBIT AND A CREDIT MEANING ZERO.

>> 1,000,006 RAN THROUGH THE ACCOUNT AND THEY MILLION SIX CAME OUT.

>> IT DIDN'T COME OUT, IT'S A CREDIT. >> I AM NOT INSINUATING ANYTHING. I SHOW 1,000,006 IN CREDITS ON A DEPARTMENT THAT HAS $150,000 BUDGET I AM ASKING FOR AN EXPLANATION. THAT'S ALL I AM DOING.

>> I WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE YOU RECOGNIZE IT'S BEEN CONFIRMED THERE IS ONLY A BUDGET OF WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED THIS IS THE BUDGET ON THE SPECIAL REVENUE THIS WAS PROVIDED IN THE BUDGET

BOOK AND WORKSHOP. >> I CAN ADDRESS THE QUESTION YOU HAVE BECAUSE I AM THE ONE WHO RAN THE REPORT BUT IT INCLUDED ALL ACTIVE REPORTS ALL ASSETS, ALL LIABILITIES, ALL EXPENSES AND AN ENTRY REQUIRED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ACCOUNT SO IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE EIGHT. I CAN SEE WHERE THE REVENUE STARTS WHAT AM I LOOKING FOR?

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>> IS RIGHT BELOW YOU WILL SEE IT AND YOUR REVENUE CAME IN WITH THIS GOING THROUGH 721 210,000 OF REVENUE COMING IN AND PROBABLY FROM THE FOUNDATION THOSE TOGETHER WOULD BE TO 27 735,000 WORTH OF REVENUE. THAT'S ALL THE REVENUE WE WOULD SHOW COMING IN AND WHOEVER AROUND THE REPORTS DIDN'T RUN IT JUST TO GIVE YOU REVENUE EXPENSES AND YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOW MUCH THEY RUN THEY RAN THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT FOR ALL ACTIVITY AND THE AMOUNTS TOTAL FOR ALL ACTIVITY IF IT'S A LIABILITY OR INVESTMENTS SO THAT'S WHY YOU GET TO 1.6 MILLION.

>> WHAT IN THAT DEPARTMENT WOULD REFLECT THOSE ITEMS?

>> THE 4035 AND 37 FROM JANUARY 1, 2020 OF 210,000 TOTAL REVENUE COMING IN THAT'S COMING

FROM THE PORCH. >> YOU ARE SAYING THEY RAN IT WITH ASSETS WHAT KIND OF ASSETS WOULD BE RUN IN THIS ACCOUNT?

>> FIRST PAGE ÃAND THEN WHERE WE PUT MONEY INTO THE PAYROLL ACCOUNT OR EXPENSE ACCOUNT AND WE ACTUALLY PAY OUR BILLS AND THAT'S A LOT OF TRANSACTION WE HAVE ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE WE HAVE INVENTORY AND ACCOUNTS PAYABLE THOSE ARE YOUR ASSETS AND LIABILITIES AND EVERY TRANSACTION WE HAVE FOR 2003 WHICH IS ACCOUNTS PAYABLE PURCHASING AND THERE'S DIFFERENT LIABILITIES AND ASSETS THROUGHOUT THIS REPORT UNTIL WE GET TO PAGE 8 WE START

TALKING ABOUT REVENUE EXPENSE. >> SO CAN YOU JUST PROVIDE ME A LIST OF THE SPECIFICS ON WHAT THOSE ASSETS AND LIABILITIES ARE SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT?

>> CAN YOU DO THAT FOR THREE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL SO WE CAN SEE APPLES TO APPLES AND ORANGES TO ORANGES BECAUSE THERE IS DEFINITELY VALUE THEIR SO YOU CAN SEE THAT 1.6 IS NOT REFLECTING REVENUE OR EXPENSES IT'S WHAT IS REFLECTING IS THE ENTIRE ASSET SO IF YOU ARE RUNNING A PARTICULAR PAYROLL ACCOUNT THE SAME THING GOES TO LIABILITY SO I BET IT REFLECTS THE ENTIRE THREE YEARS I BET IT REFLECTS THINGS THAT HAVE NO VALUE HERE ALTHOUGH IT'S A GOOD PRACTICE TO LEARN SO LET'S DO IT FOR A COUPLE OF DEPARTMENTS YOU CAN SEE IT'S NOT A NUMBER THAT IS MEANINGFUL IN THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE THE NUMBER THAT IS MEANINGFUL IS PROVIDED ON THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS THAT YOU ARE PROVIDED THIS IS THE ONE THAT MATTERS BECAUSE IT SHOWS YOU JUST LIKE IT DOES ON EVERY DEPARTMENT FROM 5111 251 10 ON CAPITAL OUTLAY SHOWS YOU HOW WE BUILD BUDGETS FOR DEPARTMENT SO ONLY SAY THE DEPARTMENT IT'S NOT JUST THE SALARY SARAH LINES GIVEN FOR OFTEN EXPENSES TELEPHONE AND UTILITIES AND PROFESSIONAL

SERVICES FOR THIS IS REFLECTED. >> IF YOU WANT TO THAT'S FINE

BUT WHENEVER YOU GET THIS I WILL GET WITH YOU PRIVATELY. >> WE STARTED THE REPORT BECAUSE WE ARE COMING UP AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER AND I HAVE RUN A TRANSACTION ASSETS, LIABILITIES, EXPENSES, AS YOU CHOOSE.

>> I WANT TO MAKE TRIPLE SURE PEOPLE ARE LEFT WITH THE IMPRESSION THAT THE BUDGET IS ANY MORE THAN WHAT'S REFLECTED IN OUR BUDGET BOOK WHICH IS 183,000 WHICH INCLUDES THIS

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CONTRACT WHICH IS COVERED BY THE AMOUNTS IF YOU TAKE OFF THE CONTINGENCIES WHICH I THINK WE COULD IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE WHAT WOULD BE KNOWN AS A NEUTRAL BALANCE BUDGET SO IF YOU WANT TO REMOVE CONTINGENCIES SUCH THAT THE NEW BUDGET IS HUNDRED 75,000 WHICH REFLECTS PORTS 125 CONTINGENT UPON APPROVAL I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE A MOTION SO YOU CAN ACCURATELY REFLECT 175 EQUALS 175. BUT WE CAN CHANGE THAT BY CHANGING THE CONTINGENCIES.

>> I THINK UNTIL THEY VOTE AND MAKE IT OFFICIAL >> THAT'S WHY IT'S IN THERE.

>> WE PROBABLY PUT THAT IN THERE LITTLE BIT PREMATURE BUT I DON'T NEED TO MAKE A MOTION OF ITS IF THE MONEY COMES THROUGH THEN WE NEED TO REVISIT AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COURT I WAS JUST ASKING SO I AM HAPPY WHEN THEY BRING IT BACK AND WE CREDITS CAN BE USED SOMEWHERE ELSE SO WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

>> THE FISCAL YEARS DON'T MATCH UP WHICH IS WHY THE CHAIRMAN CAME IN WITH THE COMFORT FACTOR KNOWING FISCAL YEARS DON'T MATCH UP IT'S UNFORTUNATE OCTOBER 1 AND JANUARY 1 AND SO THAT'S WHY THAT CONTINGENCY APPROPRIATION IS PLACED THERE TO MAKE THAT AVAILABLE BUT WE DO KNOW AT MINIMUM THEY WOULD RESTORE. LET'S JUST PRETEND FOR A MOMENT YOU STAYED AT 90, 90 AND 50 IS 140 AND IF YOU SUBTRACT THE 33,000 ON CONTINGENCIES YOU HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO COVER AND FOR IT TO GET US TO THE END OF THE YEAR AND WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT WITH WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON WITCHES THE ONE THAT'S CURRENTLY VALUABLE TO THE MONTH WHICH IS THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS MEETING.

>> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, YOU BROUGHT SOMETHING UP AND I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU BROUGHT IT BUT THE WAY I LOOKED AT THIS, I DON'T CHARGE ANY TRAVEL OR ANYTHING ELSE.

SO THERE DOESN'T NEED TO BE ANY THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT ADDITIONAL TRAVEL WOULD COST FOR ME THAT'S

ON ME. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

>> THE. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> YES IT IS.

>> IT'S 125 NOW. YOU SEE AT THE TOP WHERE IT SAYS INTERLOCAL GOVERNMENT AGREEMENTS, THAT 125 REPRESENTS THE PORCH. THAT'S WHAT THE CHAIRMAN SAID HIS RECOMMENDATION WILL BE. SOME OF THE CONTRACT IS LISTED UNDER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AT $23,040. THE 125 REPRESENTS THE INVESTMENT

>> SAY THAT AGAIN. >> 88 435.

>> THAT WAS LAST YEAR. >> ARE YOU SAYING THIS YEAR IS

GOING TO BE 2304? >> THAT'S CORRECT GREAT

>> MEANING THAT'S GOING TO TERMINATE AFTER THREE MONTHS. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

THE BUDGET WAS APPROVED UNDERSTANDING WHAT WAS CONTEMPLATED BY CONTRACT, BY EMPLOYEE SALARY AS WELL AS THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS PLUS WHAT WE HAVE IN THERE AND THE CONTINGENCY COMES FROM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEAL WITH CONTINGENCIES BUT I AGREE WITH YOU THERE IS NO NEED TO HAVE THE CONTINGENCIES HIGHER THAN WE NEED WE CAN JUST STAY IN THAT RESERVED FUND BUT AGAIN I THINK THE ACCOUNTING WAS VERY TRANSPARENT.

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THIS HASN'T CHANGED. THIS IS VERY MUCH THE SAME.SO THE REASON YOU DON'T SEE 90

COMMISSIONERS IS BECAUSE IT'S 125 >> AND THE REASON IT IS 125 AND ÃTO HOST THOSE FUNDRAISERS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO TRY TO BE A PART OF SO UNFORTUNATELY COVID HURT A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES BUT WE THINK IN THE FUTURE WE CAN DO THAT BUT THEY ARE RECOGNIZING THAT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF VALUE GIVEN SO THUS THE NEW RECOMMENDATION.

>> IS THERE ANYTHING PAID OFF? >> IT'S A MONTHLY LEASE.

IT'S PART OF THE BUDGET. 5410. THE FOUNDATION GAVE US SOME DOLLARS TO WORK WITH SO WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO KEEP TO OUR BUDGET.

AGAIN THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND LIVE BY THE BUDGET WE CREATED AND AGAIN I AM NOT CERTAIN WHY THE REPORTS GET RUN THAT WAY THAT MADE YOU CONCERNED BUT IT'S NOT THE REALITY. THE REALITY IS THE BUDGET IS 183 SO IF YOU TAKE THAT OFF IT'S 150,000 OF WHICH WE HAVE MORE THAN HUNDRED 50,000 COMING EVEN IF YOU WENT BACK DOWN TO LESS THAN 125 AND THAT'S WITH ADDING THE ADDITIONAL PERSON TO GO FROM TEMPORARY TO FULL TIME WHICH WAS APPROVED DURING BUDGET AND THAT'S WHERE HE GOT

THAT UPTICK. >> EXCUSE ME JUDGE.

MR. BREYER DOESN'T CHARGE FOR HIS EXPENSES HIS SALARY IS 7680 SOME CONSULTANTS GET 4000 OR 3000 AND IT COMES OUT ALMOST TO THE SAME THING.

>> RIGHT I THINK THAT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE QUESTION IS BUT IF YOU'RE SAYING HE DOESN'T

CHARGE FOR EXPENSES I AGREE >> >> AND 3000 A MONTH AND IT COMES OUT ALMOST THE SAME THING 7000 A MONTH.

>> I THINK EVERYBODY THAT DOES WORK AS A DIFFERENT SCOPE OF WORK I KNOW THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE SAYING IT WAS A PROFESSION FALLS FOR THAT'S BASED ON YOU CAN'T REALLY SAY WE PAY A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND THEY ARE ALSO DIFFERENT THERE'S NO SET AMOUNT THAT THE COUNTY HAS. THAT'S ALL I WAS SAYING.

IT'S BASED ON WHAT THE MARKETPLACE HAS FOR SOMEBODY WHO DOES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AT ANY RATE THE OPPORTUNITY IS TO BE ABLE TO AGAIN OUR BUDGET WAS CONTEMPLATING THE PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTS AND SERVICES AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE BRINGING TO YOU TODAY ONLY SET A BUDGET AND WAY PAST THE BUDGET AND WE BASICALLY BRING YOU BACK THE CONTRACTS VETTED HERE TO THAT BUDGET AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT YOU UNDERSTAND

>> EVERY CHARGES 7680 AND WHAT'S A SIX CD EXTRA FOR THIS HE NOT CHARGE TRAVEL TIME IS AT

FOUR HOTELS OR SOMETHING? >> ÃJUST THE MONTHLY RATE SURVEY THAT WAS 7000 A MONTH. SO JUST 90,000C712.

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>> THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S HOW THAT WORKS. JUST THE MATH NOT A PERFECTLY EVEN NUMBER AT ANY RATE THIS IS WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT WE CREATED AND ALTHOUGH I REALIZE WE BRING YOU TO THIS MOMENT SO THAT WE CAN FINALIZE THAT IF THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR

MR. BREYER, WILL MOVE ON. >> IS THE PURPOSE TO ONLY READ IF YOU DIDN'T OF THE YEAR AND THEN NO MORE RENEWALS? SURE THAT'S CORRECT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WILL OF THE COURT IS THE PURPOSE RIGHT NOW IS THROUGH DECEMBER THAT'S WHAT THE BUDGET CALLED FOR AND THAT'S WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD WAS AVAILABLE SO IS JUST TO GET US TO THE END OF THE YEAR AND NEXT YEAR IT WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE BUT IF IT'S THE COURTS WILL TO BRING IT AS AN AGENDA ITEM WE CAN ENTERTAIN THAT BUT IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET AS YOU CAN SEE.

AGAIN, >> MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT.

>> I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I'M SORRY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> JUST LIKE WE DID LAST TIME I AM LOOKING FOR AN AREA I BROUGHT UP AND AND ELIMINATED AND GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL AND WE ARE RUNNING AROUND AND I KNOW WE WILL BE CRUNCHING SOME NUMBERS SO I AM AT THE POINT WHERE I AM JUST THINKING WE CAN SAVE $200,000 AND PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND WHERE WE ARE GOING TO NEED IT FOR THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE MONEY WE CAN UTILIZE THOSE SOMEWHERE ELSE AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN MAYBE ONE TIME THERE'S A COUPLE OVER HERE AND MAYBE SOME REPORTS I DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS JOB IS FOR HIS DUTIES ARE AND I

THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO TAKE OVER >>

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE YOUR THOUGHTS BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR 50,000 IS THE ONLY AMOUNT THAT WE PUT IN SO YOU CAN'T SAY IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT IN CDC ARE NOT GOING TO GET ANY DOLLARS FROM THE COURT FOR THE NCDC SO THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD SAVE THE THEORY IS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING WE ARE SAVING MONEY AS THE CONTRACT GOES THROUGH DECEMBER AND THEREFORE THERE'S A HUGE REDUCTION IN THIS BUDGET IS IN THE BUDGET ALREADY SO THE BUDGET IS CREATED WAS APPROVED IN COURT I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW THIS IS WHAT WE PUT IN AND A COUNTY THAT DOES NOT INVEST AS A COUNTY THAT CERTAINLY ON DOES NOT VALUE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THIS IS A REGIONAL IT'S GOING TO PROMOTE A REGION NOT A COUNTY THEY DO SO WITHOUT BIAS OR PREJUDICE SO THEY HAVE NO ALLEGIANCE AND NO, THEY DO, THEY GO FOR THE REGION WHICH IS GREAT AND WE DO PARTICIPATE SO YOU ARE CLEAR WE DO PARTICIPATE IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE ONE SEAT ON THERE AND I

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ATTENDED EVERY MEETING IN ADDITION >> I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE WE

ARE AT. >> THEY DO MAKE THEIR ÃWITHIN THE LAST QUARTER HE DID GIVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION ON THE EDC AND HOPKINS HAS BEEN HERE AND HE ACTUALLY WAS HERE DURING BUDGET WORKSHOP AND HE GAVE A FULL PRESENTATION AND WE SHOWED YOU THE WEBSITE YOU HAVE CREATED YOU ARE INVITED TO EVERY SINGLE MEETING EVERY MONTH I DON'T BELIEVE YOU HAVE EVER ATTENDED BUT YOU HAVE BEEN INVITED SO YOU ATTENDED A FEW SEE YOU KNOW HIM AND YOU KNOW HE HAS BEEN LEADING THE FACILITATION OF THE PEER COMMITTEE AS WELL ALONG WITH MANY OTHER INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT TODAY

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE USING THE RIGHT NUMBERS ONLY THING WE WOULD SAVE HIS $50,000 AND WE WOULD HAVE NO NUECES COUNTY DEVELOPMENT.

>> THE PORTS, FIRST OF ALL YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF THE GIVING COMES FROM THE PROMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENT FUND AND THAT IS GIVEN TO EDC AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SO THAT IS CORRECT YOU WOULD HAVE TO INVENT A NEW REASON, A NEW CONCEPT OR SCOPE THEY GIVE TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THEY GIVE TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THEY GET TO THE UNITED CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ETC. SO YES SIR I AM SAYING THEY GIVE TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS. THAT'S WHAT IS EARMARKED FOR ITS FOR THE SPECIFIC PURPOSE OF FOSTERING THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES SO WHEN THEY GO OUT AND PROMOTE THE HUNDRED THOUSAND DIRECT JOBS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED THAT THERE IS SOMEBODY THAT WORKS WITH THOSE COMPANIES AND IS THAT WE ARE DEDICATED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT I SAT ON THAT COMMITTEE AND THAT'S THE PHILOSOPHY IT COMES FROM ME VERY SPECIFIC FUND

>> EXCUSE ME JUDGE. >> I AM GETTING DISCOURAGED, THE LAST TIME COMMISSIONER CHESNEY WAS ASKING FOR HELP TO HELP FUND HIS PROJECT I UNDERSTOOD THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO GIVE HIM. AND I OFFERED TO GIVE HIM $50,000 MY CONCERN IS WE NEED TO PUT OUR MONEY'S IN OUR PROJECTS AND THERE IS NO ASSURANCE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE MR. BREYER CONTRACT SO WE ARE TAKING A VOTE NOW.

>> NO WE ARE NOT THE WAY IT WORKS I HAVE TO CALL THE VOTE BUT YOU WILL HAVE THE

OPPORTUNITY. >> I SEE THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S HAPPENING TO THE COURT, THERE IS JUST A REAL CONFUSION AS TO WHEN YOU SAID COMMISSIONER CHESNEY'S PROJECT THIS PROJECT THIS CONTRACT IS A BUDGETED ITEM AND YOU VOTED FOR THE BUDGET SO THIS WAS A PREPARED, YOU HAD LOTS OF WORKSHOPS WE HAD LOTS OF

OPPORTUNITIES >> AT THE TIME I DID NOT REALIZE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY

MONEY. >> IT'S ABOUT CHOICES.

COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HAS PLENTY OF MONEY. HE IS CHOOSING TO ASK FOR HELP IS NOT THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO PUT FORTH HIS PROJECT HE WANTED US TO RECOGNIZE HIS PROJECT IS A COUNTYWIDE PROJECT THAT WE SHOULD ALL TAKE AN INVESTMENT IN, SO THE IDEA OF WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY IS NOT ACCURATE THIS BUDGET HAS THE DOLLARS TO SUPPORT THAT WILL

CONTINUE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. >> YOU MADE IT SOUND LIKE WE

DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY. >> I SAID HE NEEDS OUR HELP IN OTHER WORDS YOU HAVE TO FIND IT FROM YOUR SPECIAL REVENUE YOUR 2016 CO'S SHOULD HAVE BEEN SPENT SO THE POINT IS THAT SHOULD HAVE COME FROM THE RIGHT SOURCE AND AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO OFFER YOUR DOLLARS THAT'S MAGNANIMOUS OF YOU AND I THINK HE SAID HE WOULD APPRECIATE

THAT NEXT GO AROUND. >> LIKE THE WAY I SAID I UNDERSTOOD THERE IS NO BUDGET IN THE ÃNO MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO HELP EMMA THAT'S WHY I SAID

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WHAT I SAID. SMITH S BECAUSE THE BUDGET IS BALANCED.HAT WE HAVE ARE OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE OF CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION YOU HAVE MONEY IN YOUR CEOS AND SODAS COMMISSIONER CHESNEY SO THAT WAS THE ISSUE, YOU HAVE MONEY AND HE HAS MONEY BUT HE SAID HE WOULD LIKE TO SAVE SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS FOR PROJECTS INCLUDING ROADS SO HE WAS LOOKING FOR THOSE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION TO ASSIST AND WE ALSO HAVE $70 MILLION WORTH OF AMERICAN RELIEF PLAN ACT 10 MILLION WE HAVE OBLIGATED ALREADY SO THE IDEA, SIR WAS NOT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE MONEY IT WAS CHOOSING THE RIGHT BUCKET OF DOLLARS.

>> THAT'S THE WAY I TOOK IT. >> I KNOW I'M SORRY YOU TOOK IT THAT WAY BECAUSE YOU OFFERED 50,000 CF PROVEN THAT YOU HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY.

>> I TRY TO SPEND MY MONEY WISELY WHERE IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE SPENT.

>> RIGHT. THE POINT IS THIS BUDGET IS A BALANCED BUDGET AND THAT'S ALL THE CONCEPT WAS, WAS JUST TO SHOWCASE THAT THE CONTRACT THAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY REFLECTS THE BUDGET THAT YOU VOTED FOR IS JUST A MATTER OF MAKING CERTAIN THAT WE GET THE ITEMS OTHERWISE WHY GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO FULFILL THAT WHICH IS INSIDE OUR BUDGET AND ALSO, YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THERE IS NO ASSURANCE, THERE IS EVERY ASSURANCE IF IT GETS EXTENDED BEYOND DECEMBER IT'S BECAUSE THIS COURT WILLS IT, THAT'S

ALL. >> YOUR HONOR I JUST RAN THE ASSETS TO LIABILITIES REVENUE EXPENSE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR AND I PROVIDE THAT TO YOU SO YOU CAN SHOW YOU THE ÃCURRENTLY -59,000 ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE 54,000 IN INVENTORY -57 WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY TRANSFER SO THAT'S WHY IT'S ALL NEGATIVE THAT'S WHY YOUR CURRENT RESERVES ARE NEGATIVE YOU WILL SEE THE REVENUE AT THE MOMENT IS MONEY COMING IN AND OF 108,000 AND THE CAPITAL CREDITS WE RECEIVE NOW WE SHOW YOU YOUR TOTAL BALANCE OF EXPENSES FOR THIS TIME WHICH COVERS ALMOST THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR SO THAT'S WHERE THE BALANCES SIT

CURRENTLY AT THE MOMENT >> >> JUDGE IF EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO SPEAK MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH ANYTHING AND IT SEEMS LIKE A MAJORITY WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE FUNCTION AS A COUNTY TO REDUCE WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE IT MANAGEABLE FOR THE COUNTY AND THE TAXPAYERS AND I THINK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION EVERY TIME A CONTRACT COMES UP AND IS HEALTHY AND SHOWS COMMUNITY EFFORTS AND IT'S NOT GOING TO RUBBERSTAMP ANYTHING BUT FOR ME, THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE SOMETIMES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND THERE IS NO WAY WE CAN MATCH THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A COMPANY CALLED AMAZON COME TO ÃCOUNTY THE ONLY REASON WHY IT CAME WAS BECAUSE OF THNCDC WE HAVE SEEN THAT AND EVERY TIME YOU CREATE A BUBBLE EVEN IF THEY FEEL SO TO ME THAT ONE PROJECT ALONE IS WORTH THE INVESTMENT TO PUT IT IN THIS YEAR LIKE I SAID I HEAR MY COLLEAGUES AND WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS VERY REASONABLE TO LOOK AT ALL THESE CONTRACTS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE US BUT I THINK IN THIS ONE TODAY I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD'VE HAD THAT HAD WE NOT HAD A NCDC IN EXISTENCE AND I KNOW THAT OUR DISCUSSION WHEN THIS WAS CREATED WAS BROUGHT IN ON A CONTRACT BASIS BEFORE AND IT WAS TO HELP SET THIS UP AND THE

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REASON WHY WAS BECAUSE IT WAS AN ASSISTANT POSITION AND FULL-TIME ÃTHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT AND I HOPE THAT WE GET TO THAT POINT WITH THE NCDC I THINK HE HAS GRASSED WELL AND HE WILL EVENTUALLY GO OFF TO BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL OF THEM CONTINUE TO EXPAND AND WE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY ONE DAY AND I KNOW THAT IS WHAT HE HAS BEEN DOING ALL OF THIS TIME AND I THINK THE TIME IS WANING ON THAT ISSUE I HOPE A MAJORITY SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE THE INVESTMENT WE PUT IN PAID DIVIDENDS FOR AMAZON AND WE KNOW THERE ARE SOME COMPANIES BUT THIS IS ONE OF MANY ACHIEVEMENTS THAT WE TAKE PRIDE IN THEIR DOING GOOD WORK AND THESE VALUES THEY ARE ASKED FOR TODAY AND THEY GET US THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR AND I HOPE WE CAN LOOK AT HOW TO READJUST IN THE NEW YEAR AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE I THINK THAT PROJECT ALONE MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN PUTTING US ON THE MAP AND WITH THEY ARE ON THE WAY.

>> I WANTED TO POINT OUT AND I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE THE CHIEF APPRAISER'S APPRAISAL YET BECAUSE IF YOU PASS BY THE AMAZON FACILITY BECAUSE HE WERE TAKING PLACE BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE APPRAISED VALUE BUT IF YOU JUST TAKE THE GUESS ON THE LOW SIDE $50 MILLION THAT DIVIDED BY 100 TIMES $0.30 OUR VALUATION IS HUNDRED $50,000. IT'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE TO LET PEOPLE FINISH WHAT THEY STARTED WE DEVELOPED A BUDGET SO WE CAN TRANSITION IN JANUARY AND I WOULD ASK THAT WE ALLOW THIS DECEMBER TRANSITION TO TAKE PLACE BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE AND IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE GOOD WORK WE ARE DOING IN THE MONTH OF OCTOBER ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE KNOWN ABOUT AND I WISH DURING THE BUDGET THAT YOU WOULD HAVE EXPRESS YOURSELF BECAUSE WE HAVE A NEED TO FINISH SOME PROJECTS SO WE CAN TRANSITION THAT INCLUDES THE UNIVERSITY IT INCLUDES THE AMAZON, AND THAT'S WORKING WITH RISD ON THEIR EDUCATIONAL COMPONENTS IN THE NETWORK JOHN HAS BEEN WORKING ON AND FOCUS ALSO ON THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS MEETING IN THERE IS NOBODY ELSE THAT HAS THE EXPERTISE AT THIS MOMENT AND FOR THAT REASON I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE SAVED THE COUNTY A LOT OF MONEY BECAUSE THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE BUDGET AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU PLEASE CONSIDER LETTING THIS STAND BECAUSE SHORT TERM IT ALLOWS FOR THE WORK TO FINISH AND TRANSITION AND IT PAYS HUGE DIVIDENDS THEY PAID FOR ITSELF AND THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT Ã JUST IN ONE YEAR AND THAT IS JUST ONE SMALL PROJECT AND THERE'S AT LEAST THREE NAMED PROJECTS THAT THE DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS, THERE ARE WONDERFUL PROJECTS ON THE HORIZON SO AGAIN THE BUDGET WAS THOUGHTFULLY PUT FORTH AND THIS WAS INCLUDED AND THERE'S PLENTY OF DOLLARS IN THAT BUDGET IF YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WE CAN ADDRESS THE CONTINGENCY WITH AN UPCOMING AGENDA ITEM AND WE CAN ADDRESS ANYTHING ELSE WITH THE ISSUE LIKE THE FAMILY PROTECTION DOLLARS BUT AGAIN, IT SEEMS LIKE A COUNTY THAT WANTS TO GROW AND KEEP PROPERTY TAXES LOW MIGHT CONSIDER PUTTING SOME INVESTMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHERE IT HAS PROVEN VALUE. I HOPE THAT THAT REALLY HELPS

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BUT I WOULD ASK YOU TO LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND SEE THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE AND IT CONTEMPLATES GETTING US TO FINISH THE WORK TO DECEMBER SO WE CAN MOVE TO A TRANSITION IN JANUARY AND THAT

WILL BE A HUGE SAVINGS >> JUDGE I JUST WANT TO JUMP IN JUST AS I INDICATED IN THE PAST DISCUSSION SOME I AGREE ON A SEMI-GELATIN THIS IS ONE I AGREE ON WITH YOU AND I WANT TO TELL YOU WHY I THINK HE HAS DONE A NICE JOB AND VERY CLEARLY THIS IS TO BRING HIM IN FOR A YEAR AND TO GET ASIDE UP AND TOOK OUT AND IN HOLDEN WE HAVE A FULL-TIME ASSISTANT OVER THERE THAT'S BEEN HIRED AND WE HAVE A NICE BOARD IN PLACE AND IS TIME TO CUT THE CORD IN MY OPINION AND I WOULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER LETTING HIM GO THROUGH OCTOBER THIS IS THE HARD-CORE STOP AND MAKE SURE HE HAS EVERYTHING THAT HE CAN AND MOVE ON AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S TIME TO CUT THE CORD AND I DO THINK THIS COUNTY INVEST MONEY IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND THE CHAMBER OR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION LAND OTHER THINGS THAT THE COMMISSIONER DOES WITH HER OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDS AND A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE PUT INTO THAT THIS IS A PRODEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONERS COURT THE POLICIES THAT WE PASS TO ME IS NOT ALL ABOUT MONEY IT'S ABOUT POLICIES THAT MAKE BUSINESS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE TRIED TO STREAMLINE HOW THINGS WORK WITH THE COUNTY ENGINEER AND ÃA DEVELOPER WANTS TO COME IN PLEASE GET INVOLVED PUT SO WE CAN START SEEING REVENUE.

I THINK WE ARE VERY PROGRESSIVE AND JUST JUST ON THIS AND I THINK ÃIS DONE A NICE JOB AND HE IS GOING TO BE HERE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND HE MENTIONED THAT YOU COULD ARGUE THAT STEVE BONNER IS WORKING ON IT AND TIM RICHARDSON AND AT SOME POINT IN MY OPINION YOU

JUST HAVE TO CUT THE CORD AND >> WE JUST DISAGREE ON OVER 60 DAYS BECAUSE IF YOU ARE WILLING TO GO TO THE END OF OCTOBER THE CUTTING OF THE CORD YOU SAID FOR ME WAS THE END OF DECEMBER BECAUSE THAT REALLY DOES GET US THROUGH SOME OF THE PROJECTS AND THIS WEEKEND BEGINS OCTOBER 1 THAT'S RELIGIOUS 30 DAYS TO WRAP UP AND TRANSITION I ASKED THE COURT FOR DECEMBER AND THAT'S NOT AMENABLE, IF YOU WOULD PROVIDE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THE RECORD VOTE THAN YOU COULD COME BACK AND IF THAT DOES NOT PROVE OF VALUE AGAIN I WOULD ASK THAT WE COULD CONSIDER THE RATES, AGAIN, SOMETIMES YOU WONDER WHAT IT IS YOU ARE SAVING IT WHAT IT IS THAT YOU ARE LOSING IN THIS CASE WE LOSE A LOT BY NOT HAVING THE PERSON TAKE US TO THE END OF THE YEAR THAT'S ONE PERSPECTIVE AND AT THIS TIME HAVING AMPLE DISCUSSION AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE HAD LET ME DO IT AS IS AND THAT IS THE MOTION WAS MADE BY THE COMMISSIONER AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE THIS WOULD TAKE US THROUGH THE END OF DECEMBER. OKAY.

I HAVE THREE NAY I WOULD ASK COMMISSIONER THAT YOU HONOR YOUR WORD AND ALLOW US TO GO TO

THE END OF OCTOBER. >> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EXTEND THE CONTRACT FOR 30 DAYS WITHOUT BEING THE LAST AND FINAL CONTRACT WITH THE FOCUS BEING ÃAND HIS STAFF UP TO SPEED AS MUCH AS WE CAN AND THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THAT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OKAY. JOHN, YOU HAVE HEARD THE WILL OF THE COURT AND WE WILL WORK

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WITH YOU TO GET THE CONTRACT APPROPRIATELY AS WELL AS THE DIRECTIVE.

EVERYONE IS NODDING THEIR HEADS AND LATER, NOT TODAY BUT WE WILL BE BUSY TODAY WE WILL WORK ON THAT TRANSITION AND I KNOW YOUR LOVE FOR THIS COMMUNITY IS GREAT AND I KNOW THAT THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE PUT FORTH IS INCREDIBLY VALUED AND I THINK IS NOT THE LAST ÃLAST

>> AND JUDGE I WANT TO ECHO THAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND IF I DIDN'T I WOULDN'T HAVE EXTENDED IT FOR 30 DAYS THAT WAS WHAT WAS REQUESTED BUT IF IT WASN'T VALUE I WOULD NOT HAVE EXTENDED IT FOR 30 DAYS IT HAS VALUE AND I APPRECIATE ÃON BEHALF OF NUECES COUNTY.

[3. Discuss and consider approval of Supplemental Agreement with Susan Roth, P.E., for engineering services related to drainage master planning, and related matters.]

YOU MAY THINK YOU VERY KIND. LET'S MOVE ON IF YOU DON'T MIND WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE AND THIS IS A SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH SUSAN ROTH FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES RELATED TO THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLANNING AND RELATED MATTERS IN SORRY TERESA I'M GOING TO HAVE TERESA COME UP AND GO OVER THE DOLLARS AND CENTS AND ON THIS ONE THIS ONE IS UNIQUE BECAUSE JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE SUSAN'S CONTRACT IS THE MATCH FOR IN-KIND SERVICE IN OTHER WORDS WE USE HER CONTRACT EXCUSE ME. IT'S 8000 MORE AND THE GRANT THAT WE WERE AWARDED IS THE CASH REQUIREMENT AND THE END KIND SERVICE SO IN ORDER TO FULFILL THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD GRANT SUSAN'S CONTRACT MEETS THAT PARAMETER SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THIS IS NOT LIKE OTHER CONTRACTS THIS IS VALUABLE FOR TWO REASONS SUSAN'S EXPERTISE FOR ONE THING AND SECOND, IS THE FULFILLMENT OF THE GRANT REQUIREMENT. THIS IS HOW WE WROTE THE GRANT THIS IS HOW IT WAS ACCEPTED WE NEED TO PROVIDE THIS IN-KIND SERVICE AND THAT MEANS 100,000 OF THE HUNDRED 8000 WOULD BE OUR IN-KIND SO IF THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT THAT 8000 I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO ASK SUSAN TO REDUCE IT SO IT'S A PERFECT EVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND THAT WOULD BE APPLIED 100 PERCENT TO THE IN-KIND AND SO WITH THAT TERESA WILL YOU SHARE WITH US THE FUNDING SOURCE ON THAT?

>> DEPARTMENT 1307 >> THIS ONE DOES NOT IMPACT THE GENERAL FUND AND FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW THE GULF OF MEXICO SUPPLEMENTAL THE DOLLARS THAT COME FROM FEDERAL STATUTE THAT ALLOW FOR CERTAIN STATES, FIVE TO BE EXACT, TO RECEIVE REVENUE DIRECTLY TO COUNTIES AND OUR GENERAL LAND OFFICE FOR THE FEDERAL OFFSHORE LEASING OF OIL AND GAS ROYALTIES.

>>. [INDISCERNIBLE] I GOT A COPY OF THE.

[INDISCERNIBLE] THE PROPOSED FUNDING ALLOCATIONS SWEAT COMMISSIONER, HE WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT THAT TO US IN WRITING BEFOREHAND SO WE COULD DO THE RESEARCH AND GIVE YOU GOOD WORK. I CAN'T DO THAT ON THE FLY.

>> CAN I ASK DALE TO TELL US WHAT THE TOTAL GO MESA ALLOCATION IS AND YOU CAN DO

THREE PERCENT. >> WE RECEIVED.

[INDISCERNIBLE] AND BEFORE THAT WE PROBABLY GOT TWO OR 3 MILLION IN THE ACCOUNT.

>> MY QUESTION IS HOW DOES THIS QUALIFY GO MESA IS FOR MAINLY COASTAL RESTORATION AND MAINLY COASTAL RESTORATION SO I THINK SUSAN HAS DONE A GREAT JOB BUT I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS QUALIFIES. SMITH THERE IS A PRIVATE CLAUSE ON THEIR RESTORATION AS WELL AS DRAINAGE AND OTHER AREAS SO DRAINAGE IS ONE OF THE KEY ITEMS

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>> THAT'S CORRECT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A MYTH BECAUSE GO MESA HAS BEEN USED BY THE COASTAL AREAS SO OFTEN BUT IT IS MEANT TO BE A COUNTYWIDE APPLICATION FOR DRAINAGE AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS A SUITABLE ÃBUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS THE BUCKET THAT YOU WISH TO DRAW FROM I WANT TO FOCUS EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION ON THAT I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS ABSOLUTELY TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE BECAUSE THE CONTRACT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETE BY THE 29TH TO THE STATE.

>>. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> THE YOUNG MAN LJ THAT HAS THE SAME QUALIFICATIONS THAT SUSAN ROSS HAS, MAYBE MORE, HE BELONGS TO THE BOARD COMMITTEE BECAUSE HE IS AN OFFICER AND WOODEN TV THE PERSON TO WORK WITH? OR TO BE PART OF THE GRANT TO MAKE SURE THE GRANT GOES THROUGH?

>> HE WOULD HAVE TO WORK 40 HOURS A WEEK I DON'T THINK HE MAKES 100,000 A YEAR BUT I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT. I BELIEVE THAT MR. FRANCIS WAS HIRED TO BE A ENGINEER HE IS A MECHANICAL ENGINEER AND HE IS AN EXCELLENT ENGINEER I KNOW HIM FROM THE WATER REGIONAL PLANNING BOARDS BUT SUSAN SITS ON THE NUECES COUNTY RIVER PLANNING BOARD AND THE STATE OF TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD SO HAVING SAID THAT LJ WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE AN ÃINTERNAL EXPERT BUT THE $100,000 IN-KIND SERVICE IS NEEDED FOR THIS GRANT AND THAT'S WHY THE CONTRACT PAYS FOR ITSELF BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE LJ BE QUITE FRANKLY AVAILABLE FOR ALL KINDS OF ENGINEERING OPPORTUNITIES NOT JUST THIS FOCUS SO I THINK HE IS AN ASSET TO THE COUNTY AND WHEN YOU HAVE HUNDRED $50 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS LIKE WE'VE GOT IN THE FIELD HE IS GOING TO BE COMING IN HANDY BUT THIS CONTRACT SATISFIES THE IN-KIND SERVICE AND WE NEED TO FULFILL THAT BY THE 29TH AND I BELIEVE DALE HAS ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION IF THOSE QUALIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN MET IT'S A MATH PROBLEM NOT A LEGAL ONE BUT IT'S CLEAR THAT DRAINAGE IS ONE OF THE STATUTORY PERMISSIVE USES FOR GO MESA.

>> EXCUSE ME IT'S $100,000 A YEAR.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. THE CONTRACT IS 108 BUT THE IN-KIND SERVICES 100.

>> THIS IS FOR THREE YEARS. RIGHT?

>> I BELIEVE IT IS ONE YEAR, SIR. I NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT.

IT'S ONE YEAR. IT'S ONE YEAR.

>> SORRY ABOUT THAT I WAS WRONG.

>> IT'S ONE YEAR OF GETTING THE CONFIRMATION COMMISSIONER. IT IS ONE YEAR.

PS. IF YOU DON'T MIND YOU WILL HAVE TO TAKE THE MICROPHONE BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE VIRTUAL. AGAIN, THE $8000 IS DEFINITELY OVER AND I AM WILLING TO ASK SUSAN I HATE TO PUT HER ON THE SPOT I AM WILLING TO ASSET TO GO DOWN TO 100 SO IT'S EVEN STEPHEN 100 OF IN-KIND SO WE CAN GO GET THE MONEY WE HAVE BEEN WAITING ON AND GET TO THAT DRAINAGE PROCESS THAT'S WHAT WE SAID WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT.

GO AHEAD. >> THE TOTAL FOR SERVICES IS 96,000 THERE'S 12,000 FOR TRAVEL SO WE ARE TRYING TO DO THE EVEN 100 K

>> THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO MAKE CERTAIN EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT CONTRACT SATISFIES THAT REQUIREMENT AND THAT I FULLY EXPECT JUST SO YOU KNOW SUSAN

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IS HERE BUT SHE KNOWS THE NEW ENGINEER MR. FRANCIS VERY WELL BECAUSE SHE WORKED WITH HIM WHEN HE SHE WAS WITH THE CITY WAS CORPUS CHRISTI AND WHEN HE LEFT THE CITY HE IS NO LONGER ON THE BOARD BUT SUSAN HAS BEEN REPRESENTING US ON THE STATEWIDE AND REGIONAL FLOOD DRAINAGE PROJECTS IT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS OUR NUMBER ONE ISSUE THIS GETS US TO SATISFY THE MAIN CORE REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE A CASH COMMITMENT AND THAT IS SHARED WITH THE TRICOUNTY PARTNERS.JIM WELLS AND CLAYBURGH. YES SIR.

>> I JUST WANTED TO INFORM THE COURT WE HAVE 2 BIDS ON THE STREET FOR THE MASTER DRAINAGE PROJECTS. WE HAVE THEM FOR THE MASTER DRAINAGE PROJECTS ONE FOR THE COUNTYWIDE AND ONE FOR DISTRICT NUMBER TWO AND SUSAN ROSS STATEMENT TRICOUNTY.

>> SHE IS THE ONE THAT ASSISTED US IN GETTING THOSE ITEMS DRAFTED AND APPROVED AND FOR PUBLICATION AND WE ARE SCHEDULED TO OPEN THOSE ON THE 29TH AND ALSO THE TEXAS AMM KINGSVILLE PIECE OF THE GRANT AND ALL OF THOSE SERVICES WOULD BE COORDINATED WITH SUSAN WHO HAS A TWO-YEAR HEAD START BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO KNOW IS EVEN THOUGH SHE IS OVERQUALIFIED IF SHE HAS BEEN WITH US THIS WHOLE TIME TO GET US THE GRANT WE WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN BUT FOR HER THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS THIS CONTRACT SATISFIES THE KEY ELEMENT OF OUR GRANT AND I CAN'T IMAGINE UNDER WHAT SCENARIO SHE WILL HAVE TO WORK 40 HOURS A WEEK ON THIS PROJECT TO MAKE THAT HUNDRED THOUSAND IN ONE YEAR THIS IS WHAT IS

NEEDED TO GET US A 2.7 MILLION WILL BE GUIDED TO A SITUATION >> THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IT'S AN HOURLY RATE UP TO 96,000 AND OBVIOUSLY THE COURT WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW SUSAN'S HOURS AND I HAVE NO QUESTION OF SUSAN'S INTEGRITY SO JUST TO REASSURE THE COURT WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS TO ENSURE BECAUSE 519 HOURS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN EASILY BE ACHIEVED AND IT'S AN HOURLY WEIGHT RATE AND MY QUESTION IS IS THERE A PROGRAM IS THAT PROGRAM MANAGEMENT?

>> LET ME REFER TO SUSAN ON THIS.

>> MY POINT WAS. >> SHE IS NOT A ENGINEER.

>> WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE SUSAN AND Ã >> THAT'S CORRECT.

YOU ARE RIGHT. >> YES AND COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND YOU BRING UP A REALLY GOOD QUESTION AND PROGRAM MANAGEMENT THE CONSULTANT TEAM AS WELL AS THE OVERALL TRICOUNTY STUDY MAKING SURE THE CONSULTANT TEAM SELECTED BY DRAINAGE DISTRICT NUMBER TWO THE COMPONENTS I AM TRACKING SCHEDULE BUDGET MAKING SURE EVERYONE IS DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO BE DOING AND FOR THIS TYPE OF STUDY AND I HAVE PUT TOGETHER OF COURSE THE RFQ ON THE STREETS THEREFORE QUALIFICATIONS BASED ON THESE ENGINEERING TEAMS BUT I WANT TO SHARE I HAVE PUT TOGETHER VERY DETAILED ÃAS YOU KNOW I AM AN ENGINEER AND I HAVE PUT TOGETHER THESE GRANT APPLICATIONS THROUGH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR OVER 20 YEARS FOR THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS I HAVE 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AS AN ENGINEER SO I

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WANT TO SAY IN THE DETAILED SCOPE OF WORK I HAVE 13 TASKS I HAVE LAID OUT AND FOLLOWS HOW THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD LIKES THESE REGIONAL STUDIES TO BE CONDUCTED SO I FOLLOWED THEIR RECOMMENDED FORMAT ON THE SETTINGS I HAVE DONE FOR THEM AND I THINK THIS HELP THE APPLICATION ONE OF THE ITEMS AND THIS FOCUSES ON PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TASKS DEVELOPING HYDROLOGY MODELS DOING BENEFIT COST ANALYSIS PRIORITIZING THE PROJECTS AND WE HAVE 18 MONTHS BASED ON APPLICATION AND THAT'S WHAT GAVE ADDITIONAL POINTS WE HAVE TO CONDUCT THIS STUDY SO WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD A DRAFT REPORT IN 18 MONTHS STARTING HERE, BEGINNING IN NOVEMBER AND THEN THE STAFF PROVIDES US COMMENTS I WILL BE OVERSEEING THEIR WORK AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING EVERYTHING AND I WILL BE HANDLING THE ADMINISTRATION AS WELL JUST BEING ABLE TO WITHDRAW FUNDS FOR REIMBURSEMENT THROUGH ESCROW ACCOUNT. AND I HOPE YOU GOT MY ONE-PAGE SUMMARY THAT GIVES YOU A RECAP AND THIS WHOLE SUBMITTAL OF OUR APPLICATION AND OUR APPLICATION LAST YEAR AND THROUGH THE PROCESS THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT NUMBER TWO AND THIS ÃTHE ONE-PAGE SUMMARY GIVES YOU A BREAKDOWN OF EVERYONE'S CASH COMPONENT AND THIS 2.7 MILLION PROJECT THE GRANT TOTAL NOW IS 2,137,500 THOSE HAVE BEEN PLACED IN ESCROW SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY GET ÃTHE CHECK FROM THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD TO MOVE FORWARD SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES IN THE REPORT REQUIREMENTS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE WATER

DEVELOPMENT BOARD TO WITHDRAW THOSE FUNDS >> THAT IS A GREAT RECAP AND AGAIN I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THERE IS A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO THIS WHEN WE ABSORB THE CITY OF DRISCOLL JUST MAKING SURE THAT THAT GETS ADHERED TO IS CRITICAL YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD REQUIREMENTS THIS IS A FULL-TIME JOB ADMINISTERING THIS GRANT AND WE WANT TO DO IT RIGHT BECAUSE FOLLOWING THIS GRANT WILL HOPEFULLY BE APPROPRIATED DOLLARS BY THE LEGISLATURE TO DO THE PROJECTS THAT RESULT. WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS THAT EFFORT AS WELL.

IF IT HAD NOT BEEN FOR SUSAN WE WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN THAT ADDITIONAL ÃAND THERE IS NO EXTRA MATCH REQUIRED THAT TOOK MONTHS OF WORK AGAIN IT IS A KEY COMPONENT THERE IS NO WAY WE CAN DO THIS INTERNALLY AT ALL IN MY OPINION BUT WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE SOMEONE INTERNALLY WHO WILL UNDERSTAND IT AND THAT'S A GREAT THING SO WE GOT LUCKY WE GOT A NEW HIRE AMIDST ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS HE WILL BE WORKING ON HE WILL BE ABLE TO REALLY BE SOMEBODY YOU CAN LIAISON WITH SUSAN INSIDE THE COUNTY AND THAT'S A BIG ASSET THAT'S SOMETHING WE

DIDN'T HAVE A YEAR AGO. >> AND ONE OF THE SAME JUST TO

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SHARE JUDGE, AS YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND I HAVE DONE OVER A DOZEN OF THESE PROJECTS WHERE I HAVE NUMEROUS ENTITIES STAKEHOLDERS MULTI-COUNTIES, I FIRST LEARNED HOW TO DO THIS WHEN I WAS AT THE LOWER COLORADO RIVER AUTHORITY BACK IN 2001 SO I WANT TO SAY EVERY PROJECT TAKES A COUPLE OF YEARS TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS I HAVE BEEN WORKING ALL AROUND THE STATE AND THIS IS MY SPECIALTY THIS IS WHAT I DO AND I WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH YOU GUYS TO HELP YOU GET TO THE FINISH LINE OF THIS.

>> THANK YOU SUSAN. LET ME ASK COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

>> IS THAT HIRING SOMEBODY ELSE BESIDES YOU?

>> I'M SO SORRY COMMISSIONER. >> TASK NUMBER SEVEN.

WE ARE GETTING SOME FEEDBACK. >>

>> NUMBER SEVEN. >> IS TO DEVELOP RFQ AND RFP

FOR DRAINAGE O FP PROGRAM. >> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP AND AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY IT GOES BACK TO WHAT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HAS MENTIONED MY

CONTRACT IS AN HOURLY RATE NOT TO EXCEED >> AND AS YOU KNOW PEOPLE HAVE MADE IT AND ARE REALLY WANTING TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY AND A LOT OF THESE FOLKS NEED CULVERTS CLEANED OUT THEY NEED BASICALLY MAINTENANCE IN THEIR AREA SO WE HAD A REALLY NICE LUNCH WITH THE OTHER COUNTY JUDGES BACK ON JULY 16 AND SO AS WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER AND I JUST FEEL LIKE WE REALLY DEVELOPED A GREAT PARTNERSHIP AND SO IS JUST REALLY ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE WERE LOOKING AT AND STARTING TO VISIT BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE FUNDING I THINK WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT A POTENTIAL IT HASN'T BEEN PUT TOGETHER BUT SOME SORT OF POTENTIAL REGIONAL 01M PROJECT TOGETHER AND POOL OUR MONEY TOGETHER AND IT WOULD BE THROUGH OUR INITIAL DISCUSSIONS AND GIVE US AN EXTRA ITEM, I JUST WANTED TO

INCLUDE IT. >> SO IN OTHER WORDS.

>> THE AMERICAN RELIEF PLAN ACT IF THE COUNTY, COUNTYWIDE WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY USE SUSAN TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WRITE THAT RFP IN ORDER TO DO THAT SO ANOTHER WORDS THAT WAS SOMETHING SUGGESTED IN OUR FORUMS FROM COUNTYWIDE ALL OF THE MAYORS AND ALL THE JURISDICTIONS BELIEVE THAT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A STRONG MAINTENANCE PROGRAM FOR WHAT WE'VE GOT EVEN THOUGH WHAT WE'VE GOT IS INADEQUATE TO DEAL WITH THE MOTHER NATURES EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS, IT WOULD BE A BAND-AID BECAUSE LAST COURT COUNTY ROAD 67 AND 69 WE HAD A INTERLOCAL TO DO THAT VERY THING WHAT IF THAT WAS ABLE TO BE DONE COUNTYWIDE AND IF YOU WERE ABLE TO DO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO WRITE FOR THAT ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE DONE SO WELL IS BECAUSE WE ARE USING EXPERTS TO WRITE FOR US SO YOU DON'T GET A SCOPE OF WORK THAT'S NOT GOOD OR THAT GETS CHANGED AND REQUIRES MORE DOLLARS.

AND IF WE COME IF THE COURT DECIDES TO DO THAT, YOU CAN COUNT ON SUSAN TO MAKE SURE SHE CAN HELP US BY WRITING THE CORRECT SCOPE.

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>> AND THE ENTITIES. >> NUECES COUNTY WOULD BE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE IN F TALK TO THE OTHER JUDGES EVERYONE RECOGNIZES WE ARE IN THE SAME BOAT WITH THE AMERICAN RELIEF PLAN ACT CHANGES THAT THAT HAS BEEN ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS IN THE FORUMS THAT HAS BEEN WITH ME. WITH DD TIN PARTICULAR.

>> IT'S A FULL-TIME JOB 40 HOURS A WEEK. SO IS IT GOING TO BE FULL-TIME

WITH THE COUNTY ONLY? >> SHE SAID SHE WOULD HAVE TO

WORK 40,000 A WEEK TO SPEND 100,000 >> WHAT I LIKE ABOUT IT, IT'S ONLY UP TO ASSERTION HAVE TO REVIEW THAT JIM PAYS THAT WILL.

>> IT KIND OF SOUNDED LIKE THAT >> I WILL LET SUSAN ANSWER THAT SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE WILL HAVE TO BE DOING. THE QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH IF YOU HAVE A CONTRACT I'M SURE IT WILL BE DEPENDENT ON HOW WE START HOW DO YOU GAUGE IT DO YOU THINK YOU WILL BE WORKING QUITE A BIT ON THIS DRAINAGE PLAN WITH NUECES COUNTY HOW DOES IT FARE WITH OTHER CLIENTS AND OTHER PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE?

>> THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION AND TO QUICKLY CIRCLE BACK TO INTERESTING I THINK EVERY ENGINEER IS DIFFERENT ON HOW THEY STRUCTURE THEIR INVOICES BUT SPECIFICALLY FOR MY INVOICES BECAUSE IT'S TIED TO TEXAS WATER AND DEVELOPMENT I GET A VERY DETAILED INVOICE AND I SHOW HOW MANY HOURS I SPENT ON WHAT DAYS AND WHAT TASKS AND I HAVE A VERY DETAILED ACCOUNT OF HIS I SUBMIT A REIMBURSEMENT REQUEST FOR THE ESCROW ACCOUNT I HAVE TO SHOW THAT DETAIL AND SO MY INVOICE BASED ON MY HOURLY RATE I HAVE 40 HOURS OF MONTH TO SPEND ON THIS PROJECT GETTING THEM ON BOARD MAKING SURE THEY HAVE THE CORRECT SCOPE OF WORK AS THEY NEGOTIATE WITH YOU GUYS AND AS WE GET THE CONTRACTS IN PLACE THAT WILL TAKE SOME TIME WE NEED TO HAVE A PROJECT KICKOFF MEETING FOR THE PUBLIC THIS PROJECT REQUIRES THAT WE WILL HAVE FIVE PROJECT MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS SO I WANT TO SAY THERE'S A NUMBER OF ITEMS I WILL BE MAKING SURE AS THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD WE HAVE TO DO DATA COLLECTION THE NUMBER OF STAKEHOLDERS I WILL BE INTERACTING WITH WE NEED TO BE CERTAIN I WILL GET THE CORRECT DATA AND WE STARTED THE SITE SURVEY BEFORE THE ACTUAL FIELD SURVEY GETS OUT THERE JUST MAKING SURE WE HAVE A CORRECTION NUMBER OF STRUCTURES AND WE HAVE 255 MILES THE DETAILS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING AND WE HAVE A THOUSAND LIMITED DETAIL IN OUR STUDY AREA IS OVER A THOUSAND SQUARE MILES SO WE HAVE 4 ÃTHAT COMPRISE THE BATH AND BAY WATERSHED IN THE COORDINATING WITH THE NAVAL AIR STATION THEY HAVE REACHED OUT TO US AS FAR

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AS OUR PROJECT COMES TO THIS AREA AND THE TYPE OF DETAIL THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING FOR THEIR AREA AND I WILL BE COORDINATING WITH TEXAS A&M WORKING CLOSELY WITH DOCTOR JENNIFER WREN AND HER GRADUATE STUDENTS IT'S WONDERFUL FOR CLAYBURGH AND A LOT OF THAT'S GOING TO BE MET THROUGH THE GRADUATE STUDENTS AND AND WE WILL HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A LOT OF TIME. WE HAD 27 KEY STAKEHOLDERS THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES A LOT OF COMPONENTS I KNOW THAT HELPS I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD

OTHER QUESTIONS. >> LET ME ASK.

I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME >> ONE MORE THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT WHEN THE COURT APPROVED THE ORDERS FOR ME THE COURT INDICATED THAT SUSAN ROTH WOULD BE ADVISING THAT COMMITTEE REVIEWING QUALIFICATIONS THAT COME IN ALL THAT SELECTION PROCESS AND I JUST WANT TO PUT MY TWO CENTS IN, WITHOUT SUSAN'S HELP THIS WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO WRITE THE BIDS AND FOLLOW THE PROCEDURES NECESSARY WE HAVE TO HAVE THE EXPERT TO GUIDE US THROUGH THE PROCESS.

>> THERE IS ALWAYS A HITCH WITH FREE MONEY. TO MAKE SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP ON THE CONTRACTS THAT ARE OUT I SENT AN EMAIL BACK AND THOSE ARE PRETTY IMPORTANT AND THE

STUDIES THE CONTRACTS. >> THE RFQ?

>> HAVING MORE INVOLVEMENT. >> CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT ONE IN EXECUTIVE? IS NOT PART OF THIS CONTRACT AND I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ACTIVE RFQ ON THE STREET.

>> I WANT TO BE MORE INVOLVED. I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THE SELECTION

COMMITTEE AND WE LET PEOPLE THAT'S APPROPRIATE >> I DON'T MIND ADDRESSING THAT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE WE HAVE ADDRESSED THAT WITH THE OTHER COUNTIES AND THEY HAVE CONSENTED AND SIGNED OFF FOR THIS PARTICULAR FORMAT TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT WOULD SET US BACK WE HAVE AN OCTOBER 29 DEADLINE SO THE OTHER COUNTIES HAVE CONSENTED TO THE FORMAT WE HAVE PUT FORTH THAT'S IMPORTANT BUT THAT'S NOT GERMANE TO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

THAT'S MY CONCERN. >> I THINK ANYTHING YOU TALK

ABOUT WAS SUSAN'S CONTRACT IS ALL RELATED >>

>> THOSE ARE BIG DEALS THAT AFFECT ALL OF US AND WE JUST DON'T GET TO HEAR IT QUITE AS

MUCH >> THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

>> YOU DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO PROCUREMENT AND PROCURE ALL DATA AND IT VIOLATES OPEN MEETINGS ACT WE WOULD HAVE TO POST AND YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO REVEAL THE

SCORES WOULD BE AVAILABLE >> THE SCORES >> CAN WE JUST TALK ABOUT IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION? WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT THERE ARE LEGAL ISSUES THAT REVOLVE AROUND THIS AND I THOUGHT WE HAD ADDRESSED THOSE BUT IF THEY COME UP AGAIN LET'S ADDRESS

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THAT THROUGH MICHAEL AND GINNY. WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DISCUSS THIS WALLETS ON THE STREET.

I JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL. >> I AM IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM DISCUSSING IT. I WANT TO BE A BIGGER PART OF THE PROCESS I AM PUTTING THAT ON THE RECORD I HAVE ONLY ONE PERSON BUT I AM LETTING YOU KNOW MICHAEL.

>> I HAVE SUPPLIED A WRITTEN RESPONSE TO THIS AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS IT AND I THINK I

WOULD DEFER TO HER TO GET THAT ADVICE >> LET'S DO THAT.

>> WHEN HE REFERRED TO EXPERTS DEALING WITH THIS PROJECT, THE ENGINEERS, ARE THEY CONSIDERED

EXPERTS? >> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE

COUNTY ENGINEER? >> YOU SAID SUSAN ROSS WOULD BRING IN HER EXPERTISE. I AM ASKING YOU COULDN'T REFER TO ÃAS EXPERTS?

>> I DON'T KNOW WHO LJ IS. >> HE IS THE NEW ENGINEER.

SYSTEMIC ISSUES THAT HE HAS NEVER DONE ANYTHING. WE DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE WITH REGARD TO THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD CRITERIA AND REQUIREMENTS THE WAY MISS ROTH HAS SO I WOULD SAY THEY HAVE NEVER HAD A WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD GRANT AND LJ HAS GOOD BACKGROUND WITH THE STATES BLOOD DRAINAGE PROGRAM ADVISORY BOARD AND WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD BUT WE NEED $100,000 WORTH OF SERVICES TO MEET OUR GRANT THIS IS ALSO WHAT THE GRANT CONTEMPLATED WE SAID WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS SO WE GIVE MEET THIS KEY ELEMENT SO IT'S NOT THAT THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE OF 20 YEARS, YES SHE HAS A LOT MORE EXPERTISE WITH THESE TYPES OF TRI-COUNTY OR MULTIPLE KATHY OR MULTIPLE Ã STUDIES AND NO ONE HAS DONE THAT HERE AT THE COUNTY BEFORE.

>> THERE IS NO REASON THE PUBLIC SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED GRADE

>> HE IS A GOOD LIAISON AND I HOPE IT WILL HELP REMEMBER THAT POSITION IS VACANT AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A MECHANICAL ENGINEER IN THE HOUSE SO ALL HE HAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING EXPERIENCE GIVEN THAT WE ARE DOING SO MUCH MECHANICAL AND NEW GENERATORS THIS IS WHERE A LOT OF HIS TIME WILL BE SPENT WE HAVE $100 MILLION CAMPAIGN IN THE STREETS

THAT'S THE POINT. >> THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO INCLUDE PUBLIC WORKS THEY SHOULD BE WHATEVER HE WANTS SO ONE IS ON THIS SELECTION COMMITTEE ALREADY HAS ON EVERY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND HE IS INVOLVED IN THE SUSAN ROTH

PROJECT >> AND JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE I REALIZE THERE IS A DIFFERENT SENSE NOW BUT THIS COURT APPROVED THE PROCESS FOR EVERYTHING WE ARE DOING AND WE APPROVED IT BUT WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS WAS A OPEN AND TRANSPARENT PROCESS THAT WE APPROVE SO WHAT MICHAEL HAS BEEN FACILITATING IS THE COURTS WILL OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS. WE APPROVED IT MONTHS AGO HE HAS FOR TILT ÃFACILITATING THAT AND THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT THAT'S WHY WE MET WITH THE JUDGES BECAUSE THIS COURT GAVE US DIRECTION. WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING WITH THE RFQ UNDER THAT ABILITY WITH THE COURT RULED ON.

>> PEOPLE CAN SOMETIMES CHANGE THE WAY THEY OPERATE THAT YOU SAID TO WAIT TILL EXECUTIVE SESSION. THAT'S WHY I STOP TALKING BUT YOU BROUGHT IT BACK UP.I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT STUFF AND I WOULD LIKE THE COURT TO BE IN IF IT'S LEGAL GREAT AND

IF NOT WE WILL HEAR FROM JENNY. >>.

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> I THINK SHE IS SAYING THAT JUAN REVIEWS THE INVOICES.

ALL OF THE INVOICES. >> THEY WORK FROM THE BEGINNING TWO YEARS AGO. THIS OFFICE, THIS IS A LIAISON TYPE THING BUT A CORE ELEMENT

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IS TO GET THIS CONTRACT SO WE CAN PRODUCE 100,000 OF IN-KIND.

>> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS WILL BE PART OF THE CONTRACT THE PUBLIC WORKS WILL CONTINUE TO BE INVOLVED AS MUCH AS THEY WANT TO BE.

>> I WILL TAKE THAT AS A MOTION.

>> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

>> WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 4 AND FIVE IF YOU RECALL FROM PREVIOUS BOARDS I NEED TO GO TO

[6. Discuss ABM Energy Savings Performance Agreement; discuss and consider any amendment, including amendments to scope of work.]

EXECUTIVE SESSION SO I WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 67 AND EIGHT THIS WAS A CARRYOVER, IS THERE ANY UPDATE FOR NUMBER SIX AT THIS POINT OR DOES IT NEED TO BE TABLED UNTIL THE 20TH?

I'M SORRY THE 18TH. >> AS I WAS DIRECTED TO DO I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION AND THEY ARE WORKING ON FOR PUTTING A PROPOSAL TOGETHER I DO NOT KNOW THE CONTENT EXACTLY OF WHAT EACH PART OF THE JOB WILL BE BUT I KNOW THEY CATEGORIZED

IT AS HVAC AT THE FAIRGROUNDS. >> CAN I TABLE THAT UNTIL THE 18TH? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

[7. Discuss and consider ratifying agreement with Stonewater Properties for leased premises Suite 100 at Crossroads District Building containing approximately 13,096 square feet.]

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS THE RATIFYING THE AGREEMENT WITH STONE WATER PROPERTIES AND THIS IS FOR SUITE 100 CONTAINING 1300 SQUARE FEET WAS ON THE LAST ONE.

I THINK WE HELD A MOMENT. WE DIDN'T DO THIS ONE. IT WAS LISTED.

>> IT WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BEFORE.

>> IS THERE A MOTION TO RATIFY THIS AGREEMENT? A SECOND?

ANY DISCUSSION? >> I THINK THIS IS A GOOD CONCEPT BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THIS QUALIFIES AS EMERGENCY POWERS I ASKED THE ATTORNEY ON THIS AND SHE STATED TO ME SHE DOESN'T BET THESE FOUR EMERGENCY POWERS AND IF THAT'S INCORRECT PLEASE CORRECT ME. WE HAVE TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION AND I FEEL LIKE

THIS SHOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH. >> FIRST OFF, YES.

DOES THE JUDGE HAS THE POWER? WE DO LOOK AT THAT AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT SHE HAS THAT POWER. YOU HAVE BEEN ASKED AND WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE OPERATING ONTO THE CORRECT THOUGHT PROCESS AND THE TYPES OF SERVICES PROVIDED UNDER THE

EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES. >> ARE YOU BETTING THESE FORTH THE EMERGENCY POWERS ARE APPROPRIATED AT EVERY CONTRACTOR FOR LEGAL

SUFFICIENCY? >> LEGAL SUFFICIENCY WE HAVE BEEN WORKING UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE POWERS DO EXIST BUT HAVING ASKED TO RE-EXAMINE THAT ISSUE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF RE-EXAMINING THE ISSUE.

>> I KNOW THAT THEY EXIST DO YOU ADVISE THE JUDGE IN THE ACTION SHE IS TAKING IS VIABLE UNDER THE EMERGENCY POWERS OR NOT?

>> THAT IS NOT A QUESTION THAT IS ASKED OF US.

>> YOU HAVE NOT ADVISED HER OF WHAT SHE IS DOING IS VALID OR NOT VALID YOU SAID THE POWERS ARE IN PLACE AND THAT THE CONTRACT IS LEGALLY SUFFICIENT BUT YOU HAVE NOT RENDERED AN OPINION IF THE ACTIONS ARE APPROPRIATE?

>> THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A PRIOR OPINION ON EACH ONE, NO.

>> THANK YOU. >> ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE WE WORKED TOGETHER WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND IF THERE HAD BEEN AN ISSUE I WOULD EXPECT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY BEING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WOULD HAVE RAISED IT SO I'M ASKING THAT THIS ONE PLEASE BE RATIFIED SO THAT WE CAN QUITE FRANKLY MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS CONTRACT IT WAS IMPORTANT WHEN WE EXECUTED IT WE DON'T GET A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES WHEN THE CDC

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CHANGES THEIR GUIDANCE THE CONCEPT WAS TO MOVE QUICKLY AND IT HAS TO BE PROPERLY VETTED AND PROPERLY SET UP FOR SAFETY UNDER COVID-19 TO DO THE WORK IF THERE IS A OPPORTUNITY TO BRING SOMETHING TO YOU WE CERTAINLY DO BUT IN THIS CASE IT IS A DOCUMENTED FUNCTION UNDER EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO PROVIDE THE VACCINES, THESE BOOSTERS AND THAT WASN'T THE BOOSTER IT WAS THE THIRD SHOT WILL BE CALLED THE THIRD DOSE FOR THE REGIONAL AREA THIS IS SOMETHING WE BELIEVE IS A PART OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THIS BROUGHT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND WHILE I APPRECIATE YOU WANTING TO CONTINUE TO VET THESE CONCEPTS LET'S BE CLEAR

>> YOU CAN'T USE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IN THIS INSTANCE I ASKED IF SHE ADVISE YOU ON THIS CONTRACT AND SHE SAID SHE WAS NOT ASKED AND IF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WANTS TO ADVISE ME THAT'S FINE BUT IT'S NOT FAIR TO USE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

>> I THINK YOU ARE USING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY BUT I AM ASKING YOU FOR THIS ONE THIS WAS VETTED WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS SHE SITS WITH US SHE IS PART OF OUR SECTION CHIEF I HAVE 25 OF US AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT ROLES FOR EACH ONE OF US AND IF I'M GOING TO TAKE UP A SITUATION TO ASSIST PUBLIC HEALTH I WOULD SAY WE NEED TO RENT THE SPACE I APPROVE THIS SPACE BEING RENTED UNDER THE DECLARED DISASTER PLEASE FACILITATE THAT SHE THINKS THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THAT SHE WILL COME TO ME AND TELL ME THAT THAT'S IMPLIED,

BRENT. >> NO IT'S NOT.

SO MIKE I WAS TOLD THAT THEY DID ADDRESS THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE KENT HAS NOT TEXTED ME THAT BUT I AM TOLD THAT HE ADDRESSED THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

>> I HAVE THE POWER TO DO IT IT FELL UNDER THE DISASTER. I WILL LOOK IT UP.

ALL I AM SAYING TO YOU I APPRECIATE YOUR POSITION BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR SOMEBODY TO RATIFY AN AGREEMENT IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH DOING THIS WORK IN PUBLIC HEALTH WHY NOT JUST RATIFY IT SO YOU CAN HELP YOUR COUNTY RECOVER THESE DOLLARS?

>> THIS IS NOT THE FIRST, THE SECOND, THE THIRD.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. THE DISASTER CONTINUES BRENT.

>> THIS IS NOT THE 10TH TIME YOU HAVE BROUGHT THIS AND I USE THAT SAME ARGUMENT EVEN THOUGH

YOU SAY YOU APPRECIATE MY POSITION >> I DID VETTED.

>> YOU DON'T ALLOW THE COURT TO WEIGH IN ON SOMETHING BECAUSE IT'S A PROCESS AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET AN ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION OR SOMEONE'S OPINION BECAUSE THESE ORDERS ARE

SUPPOSED TO BE REASONABLE. >> THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MORE

THAN REASONABLE BRENT GRADE >> SO I JUST WANT SOMEONE WITH RESPECT, THERE ARE NO ADVISORIES ON WHAT THE EMERGENCY POWERS CAN AND CAN'T DO AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT FALL UNDER EMERGENCY POWERS AND I DON'T BOTHER YOU ON AND THAT'S 80 PERCENT OF THE STUFF AND I MAY BE OVER OR UNDER ALL MY PERCENTAGES AND THE COURT OF LAW OR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND LEASING A SPACE WE COULD HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION IS THE PRINCIPLE I PROBABLY

>> WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE THE REMAINDER OF THE CONVERSATION IN EXECUTIVE IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. OR THE NEXT PORTION.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO IT'S ON HERE AND TRYING TO TELL YOU WHAT MY POSITION IS.

I >> DO YOU WANT TO JUST BRING IT BACK LATER SO I CAN GET YOU A COPY IF I HAVE A LAWYER THAT DID ADVISE ME THAT I FELL WITHIN MY ABILITY WITHOUT WAY IN YOUR DECISION? GIVE US A SECOND TO FIND IT.

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>> IT WOULD NOT BE EQUIVOCAL BUT WHAT I AM SAYING TO YOU IS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY.

IN OTHER WORDS I NEED SOMETHING THAT SAYS YOU CAN DO IT. I NEED SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN TO ME THEY COULD HAVE COME TO COURT BECAUSE THIS FOR EMERGENCY USE AND THERE ARE THREE MEETINGS IN SEPTEMBER LIKE WE ARE BEING HERE THE ENTIRE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER THAT WE COULD HAVE

LET THE COURT WEIGH IN ON IT. >> BRENT, THERE ARE GOOD EXPLANATIONS FOR THAT BUT THE PROBLEM IS YOU CAN'T BE A LITTLE BIT PREGNANT.

YOU SAY YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH 80 PERCENT OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO FOR EMERGENCY POWERS. BUT YOU SAID IT. YOU SAID YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 80 PERCENT OF THE EMERGENCY POWERS SO YOU WANT TO PICK AND CHOOSE AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT UNDER A DECLARED DISASTER, "WHAT WE DO IS NOT DEBATE WHAT IS NEEDED FOR THE DISASTER EVEN LIKE TODAY TODAY IS A GREAT DAY IT FEELS LIKE OUR CASES ARE LOW I TELL YOU THE EMERGENCY CONTINUES AND WHAT WE DO TODAY AFFECTS US TOMORROW AND EVEN THOUGH IT MAKES YOU UNCOMFORTABLE THAT THE POWERS COME WITH A DECLARED DISASTER SO THOSE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE FOR THE DISASTER, FOR THE EMERGENCY ARE NECESSARY TO BE DONE SO THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY CAN BE TAKEN CARE OF. THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE UP FOR DEBATE BECAUSE OF THAT ISSUE YOU BRING UP AN AWESOME POINT YOU WANT TO DEBATE THE LEASE. THUS THE PROBLEM. IN AN EMERGENCY, WHICH WE ARE UNDER, YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO DEBATE IT BECAUSE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO ACT FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF PUBLIC HEALTH BECAUSE OF THIS CASE IS A PUBLIC HEALTH DISASTER.

>> I HAVE SAID IT, IF THE ATTORNEY COULD GIVE US >> GIVE US A SECOND.

LET'S MOVE ON. >> PROVIDING SERVICES.

>> ITS CITY COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH.

>> THIS COULD HAVE WAITED. >> WHO DID YOU SPEAK TO? THE PROBLEM IS YOU HAVE TO BRING GOOD INFORMATION.

>>. [INDISCERNIBLE] IT COULD HAVE WAITED AND THE PROBLEM HERE SAYS LEASE I THINK WE ARE GOING TO RENT.

>> IT'S THE SAME THING. >> AND RENT IS A MONTH-TO-MONTH

AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. >> I KNOW THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. THAT'S NOT ACCURATE.

>> THEY ARE TRYING TO GET THEIR APPROVAL FOR RENT.

>> I WILL TELL YOU I WORK WITH THE INCIDENT COMMANDER AND SHE WAS THE ONE THAT REQUESTED THIS THERE IS ONE PERSON I TAKE ORDERS FROM IN MISSOURI MANAGEMENT ISSUES HIGHER ON THE TOTEM POLE, AND THAT, SHE ASKED FOR THIS SO OUR GOAL IS TO GIVE OUR COMMANDER WHAT THEY NEED THE RESOURCES TO DEAL WITH THE EMERGENCY SO I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU SPOKE TO BUT SHE DIDN'T SPEAK TO THE INCIDENT SOME COMMANDER ABOUT THIS. I PROMISE YOU SHE ASKED FOR

THIS AND I HAVE A COPY. >>.

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE RESPONDED TO THE NEED AND THAT'S THE ANSWER AND IF YOU WANT TO DEBATE THAT WITH ME LET'S HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH ANNETTE IN A DIFFERENT FORUM.

>>. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> I AM HAPPY TO HAVE HER COME HERE BUT SHE DOESN'T APPRECIATE BEING PUT IN THE MIDDLE. LET'S NOT DO IT THEN SINCE YOU

JUST DID IT. >> YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME.

>> NO I DON'T. I'M HERE TO HELP SAVE LIVES SO WHEN I THINK WHAT WE ARE HERE TO DO IS FIND FAULT WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO SAVE LIVES ANNETTE ASKED FOR A RESOURCE THE EMERGENCY MANAGER GAVE IT TO HER. BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE DISASTER IS WHAT IT IS THAT WE CANNOT BE DEBATING WHAT WE NEED A PUBLIC HEALTH IF THE INCIDENT COMMANDER NEEDS A PERSON IF SHE NEEDS A THING IF SHE NEEDS A SERVICE OR A SPACE, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET IT FOR HER TO WORK WITH THIS EMERGENCY.

>> THEY HAVE THE MONEY, THEY HAVE $18 MILLION.

>> OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE 18 MILLION BECAUSE THAT'S 90 PERCENT FOR PERSONNEL BECAUSE WE HELPED WRITE THAT GRANT YOU HAVE IDEAS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE FACTS TO BACK IT UP. I WANT TO HELP YOU GET THOSE FACTS BUT LET ME REMIND YOU

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WHAT THE FUNDING SOURCES IT'S FUNDING THAT WE HAVE AND APPLY FOR ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY WE APPLIED FOR MONEY WE GOT THAT MONEY IS SPECIFICALLY FOR VACCINES THAT MONEY IS HERE AND THAT IS WHY IT IS THE BEST BUCKET OF MONEY THAT'S WHY IT COMES TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. EXCUSE ME GIVE ME ONE MORE MINUTE.

>> I HAVE READ WHAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY CENTURY ABOUT BASED ON THAT I WILL AGREE TO RATIFY THIS BECAUSE THEY GAVE YOU PERMISSION AND QUIET RESPECTFULLY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TOLD ME SHE DIDN'T AND I DON'T MEAN TO THROW YOU UNDER THE BUS BUT I ASKED THESE QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE TO COME HERE TO TRY TO BE PREPARED AND I'M GOING TO VOTE TO RATIFY THIS BUT I'M GOING TO ARGUE THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH THE LOGIC ON THIS RESPECTFULLY AND I WOULD LIKE SOMETHING FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND I HAVE BEEN BAKING FOR THIS FOREVER SO BEFORE WE DO THIS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK FOR AN OPINION

>> BEFORE YOU DO THIS I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO THE COURT AS A WHOLE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION

>> LET'S WORK WITH I UNDERSTAND AND I THINK SHE DOES SO WE WILL BRING THAT BACK SO LET'S MOVE THIS FORWARD ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS RATIFYING THE AGREEMENT I DON'T REMEMBER CARA DID I DO A MOTION YET? SO IS JUST NOW ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIDE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO STATE I AM RATIFYING THIS BASED ON THE ATTORNEYS GIVING THE JUDGE THE OKAY TO DO IT.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

[8. Discuss and consider authorizing TASB BuyBoard Contract No. 631-20 purchase with Pro-Tech Mechanical for HVAC repairs at RMB Fairgrounds.]

ALL RIGHT. ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IT'S A CONTRACT LEFT OVER IT WAS THREE NOTICED FOR PROTECT TO HVAC REPAIRS AT THE FAIRGROUNDS IF YOU RECALL THIS WAS JUAN'S RECOMMENDATION TO DO THIS CONTRACT AT ACOSTA $200,000 226 226,000 AND AGAIN THEY ARE NOT HERE BUT YOU WILL RECALL THE BACKGROUND MICHAEL SCOTT MORE SPECIFICS ON THE BID ITSELF FOR THREE UNITS REPRESENTING THE KITCHEN AND THE OFFICE AREA AND I DON'T HAVE THE SPECS ON THE

TONNAGE BUT I CAN LOOK IT UP. >> I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT THIS IS PRESENTED AND I DID REPRESENT THAT THIS AVENGER HAS A CONTRACT AND SHOULD THE

COURT APPROVE IT. >> AND WE HAVE TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION FROM YOU BECAUSE TO ME WE WILL TABLE THIS ONE BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSAL AND AT THE MOMENT AND I DON'T KNOW THIS BUT THE ASSESSMENT IS HIGHER AND IF WE WENT BACK TO THEM AND SAID WE WANT THIS FOR THIS PRICE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE SO

ALL I AM ASKING >> CAN YOU TAKE THAT AS A MOTION? MOTION AND SECOND AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. UNTIL THE 18TH.

AND AGAIN THE NEXT ONE THIS WAS A NEW ONE.ALE THIS IS A NEW ONE BUDGET CHANGE ORDER 21 FOR

[1. Approve Budget Change Order No. 21 for Fiscal Year 2020-2021 to include Fund 14 for the Fairgrounds (#0141)and Sale of Assets, (#0142).]

14 FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS >> ALSO THE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT PART OF THIS WE CAN AMEND THIS

TO EXCLUDE THAT AND >> WAS JUST EXCLUDED SHE CAN GET EVERYTHING ELSE

APPROPRIATED. >> AND BY REMOVING THAT FROM

THE ASSETS >>. [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> WE DID IT FRIDAY. >>

>> THE CHANGE ORDER WAS APPROVED? >> I DON'T THINK IT WAS VOTED

ON. >> HOLD ON.

ONE PERSON SPEAK. >> IT WAS VOTED ON AND BROUGHT

UP FOR RECONSIDERATION AND SO IT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED AND >> NO ACTION NEEDED ON THIS

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ITEM. >> WE HAVE ALREADY DONE IT.

>> THIS NEEDS TO BE TABLED. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY LET'S MOVE TO HUMAN RESOURCES AND I WILL MOVE US TO

[1. Discuss and consider the position of Commissioners Court Manager, job description, and posting.]

EXECUTIVE SESSION AND JULIE IS HERE THIS IS THE POSITION OF COMMISSIONER COURT MANAGER YOU SHOULD HAVE HAD A COPY GIVEN TO YOU OF THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND MINE I

MAY WANT TO ASK FOR AN EXTRA >> IF ANYONE HAS ANY PAPER TOWELS I SPILLED SOME TEA

>> DID YOU ÃBASICALLY LET ME KNOW WHAT THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.

>> THEY ARE ADDING SUPERVISORY LANGUAGE AND THE JOB DESCRIPTION WAS NOT CLEAR AND THE NONELECTED DEPARTMENT HEADS THIS WAS ADDING BACK AND SUPERVISORY LANGUAGE AND I CAN CERTAINLY TELL YOU WHAT I DID AND I AM NOT STUCK ON MY PARTICULAR WAY SO THAT WAS ONE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT. THAT WAS THE MAIN ONE AND I

HAVE TWO OR THREE OTHER ONES. >> IF WE DO IT JUST RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE TO CHANGE ALL JOB DESCRIPTIONS NOT THAT THAT'S A PROBLEM BUT WE WANT TO MAKE THE COURT AWARE ALL JOB DESCRIPTIONS FOR DEPARTMENT HEADS WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE BECAUSE THEY REPORT TO THE COURTWE WOULD HAVE TO COME TO COURT AND CHANGE THOSE , FYI.

>> I NOW ON ORGANIZATIONAL CHARTS YOU SEE REPORTS OF THIS PERSON AND A DOTTED LINE AND

JUST FROM WHAT I Ã >> I HEAR YOU.

>> THAT IS FINE WITH ME. AND ON THE SERVE AS PRIMARY CONTACT AND CONSULTANTS I THINK THAT IS WHEN THOSE POSITIONS ROLL NOW AND WE WANT TO INVOLVE THIS PERSON BUT I THOUGHT MAYBE WE SHOULD CHANGE THAT UP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S RIGHT UNDER BELINDA'S JOB DESCRIPTION LEGISLATIVE. SO SCREW IT KEEP IN MIND THIS JOB DESCRIPTION CAME FROM WHAT USED TO BE TYNER AND TYNER WAS PROMOTED AND SO HE TOOK A LITTLE BIT WITH HIM TO THIS

POSITION AND BELINDA CAME IN >> AND TO TAKE SOMETHING FROM BELINDA'S POSITION I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU SOFTEN THAT. MAYBE TAKE IT OUT. THIS PERSON IS GOING TO OVERSEE THE STAFF AND THAT'S GOING TO BE WHAT THEY DO ANYWAY SO MAYBE JUST TAKE THAT LINE OUT.

>> PAGE 2 SERVES AS PRIMARY CONTACT MAYBE I JUST TAKE THAT OUT BECAUSE THAT'S UNDER

SOMEONE ELSE'S JOB DESCRIPTION. >> IS JUST A SUGGESTION.

>> TO BE WANT TO HAVE THIS AS OVERSEAS? THEY ARE OVERSEEING THE DEPARTMENT. OVERSEAS?

>> THAT CERTAINLY ACCOMPLISHES IT.

>> AS LONG AS IT'S NOT TAKING AWAY FROM SOMEONE ELSE.

>> HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT, JOHN?

>> DISTINGUISHING THERE IS A POSITION THAT HANDLES IT. AND

>> PAGE 3 WHERE IT SAYS COORDINATES PREPARATION OF MATERIALS AND FACILITATING

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MEDIA COVERAGE I THINK WE HAVE A PIO THAT WE HAVE RECENTLY ADDED TO THE MIX AND SO MAYBE OVERSEAS, SO I THINK THE PERSON WOULD MAYBE OVERSEE THE PERSON THAT DOES THAT.

AND I CAN SHOW YOU MINE ON DIFFERENT PLACES WHERE STUCK IN THE WORD SUPERVISION AND MANAGEMENT OF AN PAGE 4 SAYS PROVIDES ORGANIZATION AND DIRECTION AND SUPERVISION AND MANAGEMENT AND I DID THAT ON SEVERAL OTHER PLACES SO WHEREVER IT SAYS DIRECTION OR COLLABORATION SO I COULD SHOW YOU EACH PLACE A COUPLE OF LINES DOWN MONITOR AND COORDINATE ACTIVITIES I PUT SUPERVISE AND COORDINATE ACTIVITIES

>> IT'S KIND OF LIKE CONSISTENCY DOES THAT SEEM FAIR?

WHAT ELSE YOU GOT? >> EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE I

THINK WE HAD SAID PREFERRED BECAUSE WE WANTED TO >> IT'S A BACHELORS DEGREE REQUIRED THEY CAN HAVE A MASTERS OR A GRADUATE DEGREE AND THAT'S GOING TO BE

PREFERRED. >> BUT YOU BELIEVE PREFERRED.

>> AND WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS BEING MINIMUM SIX YEARS INCREASING MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE WITH STATE OR LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND I PUT PRIVATE SECTOR MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE BECAUSE I DOUBT ÃBUT I WOULD NOT WANT TO ELIMINATE A PRIVATE-SECTOR PERSON WHO HAS A GREAT DEAL OF MANAGEMENT SKILL AND MIGHT WANT TO CHANGE THEIR LIFE.

>> YOU WOULD WANT TO CAST THE NET WIDE SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT EITHER.

YOU COULD SAY COUNTY MANAGEMENT OR PUBLIC SERVANT. PUBLIC WHAT? PUBLIC SERVICE GOVERNANCE PREFERRED. OR EQUIVALENT.

PRIVATE SECTOR. SOMETHING LIKE THAT, CASTANETS WIDE SO LET'S SAY SOMEBODY WAS A CEO OF A MAJOR ORGANIZATION, THAT COULD BE A WONDERFUL BACKGROUND.BE RETIRED AND LOOKING FOR SOMEONE ELSE WITH THEIR SKILLS. AND ON LANGUAGE SKILLS I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THIS BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD BILINGUAL PREFERRED BUT NOT REQUIRED BECAUSE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE NEEDS OF OUR CITIZENS IS THAT LEGAL TO PUT IN?

IS THAT OKAY? >> I DON'T LIKE TO.

>> I AM JUST SAYING PREFERRED. >> DURING THE INTERVIEW WOULD PROBABLY COUNT AS A GOOD SIGN TO GIVE SOMEONE A HIGH MARK.

>> I DON'T WANT TO SCREEN ON THAT.

>> BECAUSE? >> BECAUSE I WOULD BE MAYBE ELIMINATING SOMEONE AND YOU WOULD BE GETTING THEM ANYWAY.

>> THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SAY TO ME ALL THE TIME, I UNDERSTAND IT BUT I DON'T SPEAK IT. A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THAT SO THEY ARE NOT REALLY BILINGUAL.

>> I AGREE THAT SOMEBODY WHO HAS A LOT OF, LENDS A LOT OF ITS AN ASSET BUT I THINK NOW THAT WE HAVE SAID IT MAY BE THAT'S A GOOD THING. WE CAN TAKE THAT INTO

CONSIDERATION. >> OKAY AND THE LAST POINT THAT I HAVE I DON'T HAVE GOOD LANGUAGE FOR THAT BUT OVERSEEING THE AGENDA AND THE COURTS REPRESENTATIVE MAKING

SURE THE AGENDA GETS SAID >> THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE.

>> I GUESS I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THIS PERSON HAS THE ABILITY TO FOLLOW THE POLICY OF THE COURT IN SETTING THE AGENDA SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY MISSTEPS ON BACKUP OR ÃGETTING CHANGED OR THIS PERSON BE THE GO TO PERSON ON THE AGENDA.

>> AND THAT'S GOOD. >> IS SO IMPORTANT.

>> THAT'S IN THERE ISN'T IT? IT SAYS REVIEWS RELEVANT AGENDA ITEMS.

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>> MAY BE REVIEWS RELEVANT AGENDA ITEMS AND COMPOSITION OF THE AGENDA BOOK.

>> I'M TRYING TO BEEF IT UP TO MAKE SURE THIS PERSON UNDERSTANDS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE AGENDA THIS PERSON UNDERSTANDS HOW IMPORTANT THE AGENDA IS AND GETTING IT CLEAR.

I JUST WANT TO BEEF IT UP. I THINK THIS COURT, THAT'S A PRIORITY.

I RAN THROUGH THAT AS QUICK AS I COULD BUT THERE'S SOME OTHER PLACES SUBSTITUTE AND SUPERVISE ON THAT KIND OF STUFF IN THEIR AND I GET THE GIST BUT THAT'S MY OPINION ON THEIR

>> OKAY THANK YOU. >> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANY OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID IT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME AND ALL IT DOES IS CREATE A CONSISTENCY TO THE REAL SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE WHICH IS THE KEY RECOMMENDS IN THE COURT SEEMS TO AGREE WITH THE FACT THAT THIS PERSON WOULD HAVE DEPARTMENT HEADS MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION HE WOULD PROVIDE THAT OVERSIGHT. AND OF COURSE WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THOSE JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND CREATE SOME TRAINING WHEN WE HIRED THIS PERSON SO THIS PERSON WOULD HAVE BUT WE NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN ARE YOU ASKING THIS PERSON TO HIRE AND FIRE? SO JUST SO YOU KNOW YOU OVERSEE SOMEONE YOU DON'T HAVE A HIRING AND FIRING ITS WORTHLESS BUT OKAY.

>> THEY SHOULD ABSOLUTELY HAVE INVOLVEMENT BUT THE COURT HAS THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES NOW AND

I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN HERE. >> THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ASSIST AND PROVIDE GUIDANCE AND MAINTAINS CONTACT HAS COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS. BUT I DIDN'T PUT SPECIFICALLY WILL HIRE AND FIRE OR HAVE THAT

DISCIPLINARY AUTHORITY OVER THE DEPARTMENT HEADS >> WHAT I WOULD DO IN ORDER TO NOT CUT THAT POSITION UP IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY REPORT TO SOMEBODY BUT THEY KNOW THEY CAN COME TO COMMISSIONERS TO TRY TO GET FAVOR THE BEST THING TO DO, KEEP TO YOUR HIRING AND FIRING BUT ALLOW YOUR COURT MANAGER TO EXERCISE, REPRIMAND CAPABILITY OR RECOMMENDATION TO HIRE OR FIRE BUT DON'T GIVE OVERSIGHT TO SOMEONE THAT THERE IS NO TEETH TO IT BECAUSE THAT'S DOING NOTHING THAT PERSON WILL BE ÃTHERE WILL NOT BE TEETH AND WHAT YOU ARE ASKING IF YOU WANT THEM TO REPORT TO THEM BECAUSE THAT'S THE ESSENCE OF A MANAGER ASKED PETER ZANONI HOW EFFECTIVE HE WOULD BE IF HE WASN'T HIRING AND FIRING

PEOPLE? >> I DIDN'T PUT THAT IN BUT WE

COULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. >> OR HAVE A HYBRID.

>> THERE HAS TO BE SOME HYBRID ON THIS BECAUSE I WANT THIS PERSON TO BE THE PERSON THAT THEY COME TO YOU FOR REAL GUIDANCE AND HELP ON A REGULAR BASIS THAT THIS CANDY WOULD IT'S HARD TO DO WHEN THERE ARE FIVE OF US AND IT'S HARD SO TRYING TO STREAMLINE THIS SO IF

YOU HAVE A HYBRID SUGGESTION. >> I HAVEN'T THROWN IT OUT IN WRITING BUT WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO IS GET ALL THE FIRST THINGS THAT YOU SAID IN THERE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS COURT IS COMFORTABLE WAITING UNTIL THE 18TH TO BRING IT BACK BUT WE COULD TAKE A STAB AT THE HYBRID.

>> AND IF THE COURT IS APPOINTING AS A WHOLE THE DEPARTMENT HEAD OF SOME KIND THEN YOU PROBABLY WON'T WANT TO ABDICATE THE POWER OF HIRING AND FIRING THAT PERSON SO THOSE ARE THINGS YOU WON'T WANT TO PUT IN THE JOB DESCRIPTION.

>> SUPERVISORY IS IMPORTANT BUT MAINTAINING THAT. IT'S A GOOD WORD SO SO YOU CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING I THINK YOU ARE ÃI DON'T KNOW BUT I THINK YOU ARE HEARING WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS HOW WE WOULD GO ABOUT HAVING A POLICY IN PLACE AND HOW WE GO ABOUT HIRING PEOPLE THE COURT APPOINTS WE HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSION THAT WAS A PHONE CALL JULIE AND YOU CALLED AND I HAVEN'T GOT BACK TO YOU AND I APOLOGIZE AND WE CAN WAIT AND TALK ABOUT THAT LATER SINCE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE

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HYBRID LATER. BUT I THINK WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO HAVE A CONSISTENCY ON THAT

AS WELL. >> SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS ASKED TO TABLE UNTIL OCTOBER 18 AND JULIE IF YOU WOULD TAKE ALL OF THE INFORMATION.

THAT'S RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER SO IF YOU COULD DO THAT AND GET IT BACK TO US QUICKLY AND THAT WAY IT WILL GIVE ME THE REST OF THE WEEK TO WORK ON THAT PENMANSHIP I AM GOING TO COME OF THAT WAY WE CAN GET IT BACK TO EVERYBODY AND LET'S TRY HARD TO MAKE THE 18TH THE DAY THAT

WE ADOPT THE JOB DESCRIPTION. >> I HAD A QUESTION TERESA.

>> EXCUSE ME I WAS CURIOUS WHAT YOU MEANT BY THIS POSITION BEING ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE

DEPARTMENTS PERFORMANCE, THE BUDGET, >> IN OTHER WORDS, EACH DEPARTMENT HAS CERTAIN GOALS AND OBJECTIVES THAT THEY SET OUT EVERY YEAR BUDGETARY GOALS FOR THE DEPARTMENT SO THIS PERSON WOULD HELP MAKE SURE THOSE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES ARE BEING MET THAT WOULD BE MY DEFINITION.

>> I THINK WHAT SHE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT, I AM REMEMBERING, YOU WANT THE AUDITOR TO STILL BE THE ULTIMATE RESPONSIVE PERSON TO GIVINMONTHLY REPORTS OF SHOWCASING HE TYPICALLY TELLS THE DEPARTMENT YOU ARE BEHIND OR YOU ARE BUT D.

I THINK YOU ARE MEANING A COLLABORATIVE LET'S HELP YOU BE SUCCESSFUL.

JUST SO YOU KNOW. >> THE AUDITOR.

>> THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO ALL THE TIME AND YOU WILL SAY THAT PRIOR TO COVID IT'S ALL DONE WITH COURT ADMINISTRATION, BUT NO DOUBT THAT WE COULD REMEMBER WE HAVE JUST COME THROUGH, RIGHT.

WE DO IT ANYWAY AND ADMINISTRATIVELY AND WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS VERY IMPORTANT AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE THE PRACTICES THAT WE HAVE BUILT IN 2019 AND HAVE CARRIED OVER.

SO MANY ARE VIRTUAL NOW, I GUESS, IS WHAT I'M SAYING AND WE HOPE THOSE NOT TO BE VIRTUAL AND SO I HOPE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT

WE CAN DO BETTER. >> I THINK JUST LIKE THIS, THIS IS JUST A STARTING POINT, AND SOME OF IT MAY WORK GREAT AND WE MAY HAVE TO TWEAK IT LATER, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO -- IT'S JUST

A STARTING POINT. >> LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE PATTERN AND PRACTICE RIGHT NOW TO GO AHEAD.

>> I WOULD SECOND THIS MOTION. >> AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR,

SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> SO THIS IS WHERE WE GO INTO

[3. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.]

EXECUTIVE SESSION AND LET ME READ THE MAGIC WORDS BUT THEN I WOULD ASK YOU TO CLEAR THE COURTROOM AND PLEASE TAKE DOWN THE MICS AND WE WILL COME BACK IN SHORT ORDER.

FOR THE CLERK, IT'S ABOUT FOUR ITEMS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY EXCEPT GIVE US 30 TO 45 MINUTES.

>> AND EXECUTIVE SESSION IS -- I'M GIVING PUBLIC NOTICE AT THIS TIME THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MAY ELECT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS ITEMS THAT WERE LISTED ON THE AGENDA OR LISTED ANYWHERE IN THE AGENDA PROVIDED BY CHAPTER 5, ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODES AND VERNON TEXAS CODES 51, 8, 6 AND 8, 7 TO WORLD PROPERTY, PERSONNEL MATTERS, SECURITY DEVICES, DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND ANY OTHER MATTER DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE'LL COME BACK INTO

[02:55:02]

OPEN SESSION, TAKE ANY ACTION AS APPROPRIATELY NEEDED AND THE TIME IS 4:03 P.M. AND WE'RE OFF THE RECORD.

[4. Discuss and consider the use of American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) for purposes of Nueces County employee raises, including hazard/premium pay and other related matters.]

[5. Discuss and consider use and/or release of American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funding for purposes of Environmental Enforcement Officers and/or Heating Ventilation and Air Conditioning (HVAC) building supervisor(s) for the benefit or implementation of positions in the Department of Public Works.]

4 AND 5.

I THINK THAT WAS IT. AT THIS TIME, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACTION TO TAKE OTHER THAN JUST TO CONTINUE TO DIRECT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO CONTINUE TO SUPPLY INFORMATION REGARDING ELIGIBILITIES REGARDING OUR PREMIUM PAY.

THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCES TO A PREMIUM PAY AND WE'VE ASKED TO BRING US BACK MORE DOCUMENTATION AS SHE HAS HER DISCUSSIONS WITH HAGGARTY IS THE AUDITOR AND WE PLAN ON DOING THAT ON THE 27TH S US JUST A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO REALLY MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE HAVE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE HAVE POSSIBLE.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY ACTION IS MORE OF A DIRECTION AND THEN AT THIS TIME, IF THERE'S NO OTHER FURTHER

[ Adjournment in Memory (upon request)]

COMMENTS, WE'LL MOVE INTO OFF ADJOURNMENTS AND MEMORY AND THE COURT HAS QUITE A FEW AND WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER CHESNEY.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. >> THE FIRST ONE I HAVE TODAY IS MR. BARNES, WHO IS THE FOUNDER OF CANDY CANE LANE.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE ENJOYED THE GREAT WONDERFUL MEMORIES OF DRIVING THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO SEE THE INCREDIBLE CHRISTMAS SPIRIT, HIS SON, ERIC, SAID HIS DAD WAS AN ARKANSAS NATIVE WORKING FOR 35 YEARS, A WAR VETERAN AND ROTARY CLUB MEMBER AND KNOWN FOR HIS SCOUT.

AND THIS EVIDENCED BY CANDY CANE LANE AND ERIC MR. BARNES, WE REUNITED WITH HIS WIFE AND SISTER AND CORE THE SECOND OE TODAY, MEMBERS OF THE COURT ARE CHRIS HERNANDEZ, SHE WAS THE FIELD UNIT SUPERVISOR FOR THE JUVENILE DEPARTMENT FOR 42.7 YEARS AND I'M JUST BOG GOING D THE EMAIL OVER THERE AND SENT OUT TO EVERYBODY AT THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT AND I CAN TELL YOU THIS LADY WAS LIKE THEIR THEIR MOTHER.

SHE WAS AN AMAZING WOMAN. AND JUST A HUGE LOSS AND BARELY JUST RETIRED AND LOST HER LIFE. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, WE LOST CHRIS HERNANDEZ THIS WEEKEND WATCH AFTER A MYRIAD OF ISSUES. KEEP HER FAMILY AND FRIENDS IN PRAYERS. SHE RETIRED AS AN EMPLOYEE AND HIRED, MENTORED AND SUPERVISED MANY OF US AND THIS IS, AGAIN, THE WORDS OF JOHN MYLEM AND PROUD OF HER TIME AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND HIRED THIS GANGLY KID OUT OF DETENTION AND HAD A KEEN EYE FOR SEEING THE BEST.

SHE COULD BE STERN WITH THAT KNOWING GLANCE AND I HAD A COUPLE SHOT MY WAY A FEW TIMES THAT GO BEYOND WORDS AND GIFTED WITH THE ABILITY TO SUPERVISE WITHOUT DEMEANING THE PERSON SHE WAS CONVERSING WITH. WITH LOST A LOYAL FRIEND, THE COMMUNITY LOST A GUIDING LIGHT WHO ALWAYS LOOKED OUT FOR THE UNDERDOG. OVER HER MANY YEARS, CHRIS WOULD ORGANIZE FUNDRAISERS FOR STAFF AND ARRANGE HOLIDAY FOOD, DRIVING FOR AT-RISK FAMILIES AND EVERY YEAR TAKING CLOTHES TO THE HOMELESS MISSIONS TO KEEP THOSE CLOTHED AND WITH A HOME.

SHE DID THIS OUT OF HER ON POCKET AND ALWAYS WITH LITTLE OR NO FAN FARE. HE CHOOSES TO CARRY ON THE TREMENDOUS LEGACY SHE LEFT TO THOSE, TO CARE FOR THOSE HE WORKS WITH AND IMPACTFUL WAY. CHRIS HERNANDEZ WILL BE MISSED.