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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>>> GOOD MORNING. I WILL START WITH CALLING EVERYONE TO ORDER WE SHOULD GET WITH THE INTERFAITH COMMUNITY T IS SO NICE TO HAVE UNDERSTAND PASTOR REVEREND.

RABBI, PRIEST. SO NICE TO HAVE FOLKS FROM OUR FAITH BASED COMMUNITY HERE.

WOULD YOU MAKE THAT NOTE. I DON'T MIND ASKING THE COMMISSIONERS I DON'T THINK THEY MIND GIVING INVOCATION. I ENJOY INVITING MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO JOIN IN.

[A. County Judge calls for the Invocation.]

I WILL CALL US TO ORDER AND ASK THAT ALL RISE FOR INVOCATION AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE AND OUR TEXT FLAG. WOULD YOU GIVE THE IN VITRO CAGES, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY.

>>> WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR YOU. YOUR SON AND ALL THE SACRIFICES THAT YOU MADE BY SENDING HIM TO DIE ON THE CROSS FOR US. WE HAVE A GRATEFUL FOR HERE TODAY THAT SERVED AS THE COUNTY AND THE COMMUNITY AND ALL THE CITIZENS THAT CARE ABOUT WHAT GOES ON.

WE ASK THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO HELP US DO THE RIGHT THING AND JUST THING AND WE ASK, LORD, THAT YOU WILL WATCH OVER US AND PROTECT ALL THAT SERVE ON THE COURT AND THE COURTROOM AND ALL THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR NUECES COUNTY. WE ASK FOUR BLESSINGS AND FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR US, FORGIVE US OF OUR SINS AND ALL THE THINGS IN JESUS' NAME.

[B. Pledge of Allegiance to the United States of America and Texas Flags.]

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH

IT STANDS, ONE NATION, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND >>> HONOR THELL.

TEXAS FLAG; I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ON

[C. County Judge will call roll, note date, time, and location of meeting, and certify a quorum is present.]

AND INDIVISIBLE. >>> THE DATE IS SEPTEMB SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2021.

AND SOMEBODY TOLD ME IT WAS THE FIRST DAY OF FALL. IT LIVES UP TO THE CALENDAR VERY MUCH. THE TIME THAT WE STARTED WAS ABOUT 9:10 A.M. WHEN I LOOKED UP WE ASKED CONNIE TO BRING THE MICS UP. WE'RE THE THIRD FLOORED OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURTROOM INSIDE NUECES COUNTY COWARD. AND ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT. MADAM CLERK, THAT MEANS WE HAVE A QUORUM THAT I CAN SERRED

[D. SAFETY BRIEFING]

FIE. WE'LL ASK REBECCA TO GIVE US A SAFETY.

>> THE 21ST OR THE 22ND. >> THE 22ND. >> WAS FALL YESTERDAY.

>> IT IS TODAY. >> PERFECT. >> I WOULD LOVE A DAY BACK.

>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. THE SAFETY BELIEVING FOR TODAY D IS BEING HANDLE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURTROOM. THE RESTROOMS ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THE ATRIUM PAST THE HUMAN RESO RESOURCES OFFICE.

THERE IS A FIRE EXTINGUISHER AND FIVE LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE AREA.

RELIEF CONTROL STATIONS ARE IN ON E EVERY FLOOR. AN AED IS NEXT TO THE HUMAN RESOURCES -FS. PARTICIPANT FOR TODAY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DIALING 911 WILL BE CONNIE. PARTICIPANT CPR CERTIFIED WILL BE DALE AND, REMEMBER, ANYONE CAN RENDER AID. IN THE EVENT OF AN EVACUATION OUR EGRESS WILL BE DOWN THE STAIRS, PROCEEDING OUT THE DOORS LOCATED IN THE STREET SIDE OF THE COURTHOUSE AND IN THE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET. SHOULD THERE BE A NEED TO SHELTER IN PLACE AND THE COURTROOM DOUBLE DOORS WILL BE SECURE AND REMAIN SECURE UNTIL GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE NUECES COUNTY SHERIFF OR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

OUR GUEST SANITIZER WILL BE MICHAEL. YOU.

>> OUR SAFETY TOPIC IS SOCIAL MEDIA. STARTED OUT AS A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO STAY IN TOUCH. INSTEAD OF USING SOCIAL MEDIA TO ENHANCE A THEY HAVE TURNED IT INTO A PART OF THEIR LIFE.

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IT IS DAUNTING TO STOP. TO IMPROVE RELATIONSHIPS, STEP OUT FROM BEHIND THE ELECTRONICS AND MEET FACE TO FACE.

THERE IS SO MUCH TO DO WHEN ARE YOU NOT ON THE PHONE.

AND TIME WITH FRIENDS AND WORK AND OTHER THINGS CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED. KIDSNEED TO BE SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE AROUND THEM. THE TONE OF A VOICE CAN MAKE THE DIFFERENCE. THERE ARE REASONS WHY SOCIAL MEDIA NEEDS TO BE LIMITED. AND SOCIAL MEDIA CHANGES THE WAY WE REACT TO EACH OTHER AS A WHOLE.

WE ARE TURNING TO THE DEVICES NOT THE HUMANS.

THEY CAN GET UGLIER BECAUSE IT IS SO IMPERSONAL.

AND INFORMATION CAN LEAD PEOPLE TO BE UNKIND TO THEMSELVES AND OTHERS MAKING COMMENTS. TAKE SOME TIME TO BRING THE REAL PEOPLE BACK INTO YOUR LIFE.

SOCIAL MEDIA SHOWS NO SIGN OF SLOWING DOWN IT CAN BE AWARE OF A SITUATION. PUT THE PHONE DOWN AND LIFT

YOUR HEAD UP. >> AMEN TO ALL OF THAT.

[E. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]

>>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. I'LL ASK THAT TYNER BRING FORWARD ANY PUBLIC COMMENT BUT I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS OUTSIDE AND I CERTAINLY.

AND KNOW THAT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT WE'LL DO THE 4-H LET THEM KNOW. EVERYONE IS IMPORTANT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET BACK TO SCHOOL.

SO. >> WITH THAT AND JAN ROBERSON THERE ARE PEOPLE REPRESENTING THE NUECES COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. IF YOU LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY WILL BE NEXT BUT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO.

IF THEY HAVE A SPOKESPERSON THAT'S ALWAYS WELCOME AS WELL.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> I CALLED YOUR NAME I WAS GOING TO SAY CAN YOU REPEAT IT THE CLERK IS TAKING IT DOWN. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I SAY IT

PROPERLY. >> JAN ROBERSON.

>> WALK. >> YOU MAY PROCEED.

>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. JAN ROBERSON A VOLUNTEER AND SUPPORTER OF THE NATIONAL SEA TURTLE PROGRAM.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE RESOLUTION SUPPORTING DONNA SCHAFER PROGRAM.

HERE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I'M AVAILABLE TO DO ANYTHING NEEDED AND I HAVE A DOCUMENT. AND THE 83RD LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS ADOPTED THE SEA TURTLE AS THE STATE SEA TURTLE OF TEXAS. PRESENTLY SUPPORTERS AND THE PROGRAM. AND TWO NEW DEVELOPMENTS THE NEW FISCAL NATIONAL PARK SERVICE 2022 BUDGET STATES THAT THE SEASHORE IS TO RECEIVE AN ADDITIONAL $850,000 FOR AN UNDISCLOSED NUMBER OF YEARS WHY DO THEY DISMANTLE THE SEA TURTLE PROGRAM? NUMBER TWO, WE STARTED PETITION LESS THAN A YEAR AGO AND FOUND AT CHANGE.ORG.

TO DATE, 30577 SIGNATURES HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTED.

JUST A STORY REPRESENTING THE WORK OF DR. SCHAFER IN THE FALL OF 2020. DONNA PREDICTED A EVENT, REMEMBER WE ALL REMEMBER THE ARCTIC BLAST THIS PAST FEBRUARY. BECAUSE OF THE EXPERTISE, NUMEROUS COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS, INSTITUTIONS AND ORGANIZATIONS WERE ABLE TO SAVE THOUSANDS OF TURTLES AND ACKNOWLEDGING OUR COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR THE SEA TURTLE AND THE PROGRAM IS WORLD ACCLAIM AND SUCCESSFUL ECONOMIC CONSERVATION EFFORT FOR THE ENDANGERED TEXAS SEA TURTLE. AT THE TIME GENERATES OVER 1 MILLION A YEAR TO THE ECONOMY.

WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE NICK MEYER OUR AMBASSADOR ON THE BEACH WHO WILL ADDRESS THE IMPACTS OF A NEW STUDY THAT THE PARK WILL DO ON AS FAR AS BEACH MANAGEMENT REGARDING A STUDY. IF THIS IS INITIATED, IT IS

GOING TO AFFECT OUR ECONOMY. >> AND THE COURT CAN ACCEPT YOUR DOCUMENTS IF WOULD YOU HAND THEM TO MR. LITTLE, HE IS

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THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR. TYNER, WOULD YOU ACCEPT THAT, IF YOU WISH TO HAVE THE COURT LOOK AT THEM.

MR. MEYER I SHOW YOU AS LISTED NEXT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT I CALL UPON YOU, SIR. WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> I'M MICK MEYER THE YES, SIR OF BREAK AWAY FISH AND TACKLE HERE SINCE 1994. THE REASON I CAME HERE BECAUSE OF THAT NATIONAL SEASHORE. AND ON A REGULAR BASIS I GIVE DAILY REPORTS. WE TALK TO PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. THIS BEACH AND THAT IS SO VALUABLE I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT OUR CITY HAS NOT GOT MORE INFLUENCE ON WHEN THE WAY THEY ARE RUNNING IT.

THEY CAN COME IN AND MAKE CHANGES AND WILLY-NILLY CLOSE SECTIONS OFF NO CONSULTATION. NEVER BEFORE IN ALL PREVIOUS SUPERINTENDENTS THERE WAS A CHANGE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED, THERE WAS ALWAYS A PUBLIC MEETING THAT WOULD COME TO US AND ASK FOR FISHERMEN TO GIVE THEIR INPUT.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT.

AS A BUSINESSMAN WHO SUPPLIES MANY LOCAL SHOPS WITH FISHING EQUIPMENT, THIS WILL HAVE A DEVASTATING EFFECT ON ALL OF THEM. THEY COME TO FISH THAT BEACH IT IS FIS FISHING EQUIPMENT YOU SEE THEM AT THE WALMART, THEY ARE AT THE HOTELS THERE ARE MILLIONS OF DOLLAR AS YEAR

WE WILL BE LOSING. >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.

KY NOT UNDERSTAND WHY A PROGRAM THAT HAD GRANTS SUPPLIED TO IT FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND THEY KNOW THE VALUE WORLD WIDE IMPORTANCE VALUE OF THE PROGRAM IS BEING GIVEN TO FLORIDA.

IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. AND WE HAD THE KNOWLEDGE HERE.

LEAVING THEM ON THE BEACH 1 A DEATH SENTENCE I DO NOT KNOW WHY CORPUS CHRISTI IS NOT MORE INVOLVED IN THE DECISION TAKING PLACE OUT THERE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. >> I ANNOUNCE THIS DURING THE COMMENT WE LISTEN WITH OPEN EARS, WE DON'T MAKE A COMMENT BACK BUT WE INVITE EVERYONE TO, AS THEY SAY STAY TUNED FOR THE RESPONSE AND REACTION AND COMMISSIONERS, DO SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. I'M SORT OF THROWING THE SOFTEST BALL I CAN BUT THE POINT IS I WANT TO YOU KNOW WE'RE LISTENING, WE DON'T TEUPZICALLY ANSWER BACK AT THIS

TIME. >> JUDGE IF YOU JOIN THE COMMENT FOR THE SOFTBALL. I WANTED TO MAKE GENERAL COMMENT TO THE ISSUE NOT RESPOND TO THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS. THE JUDGE AND I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH TIM RICHARDSON WHO IS HELPING US WITH THE MATTER IN REGARDS TO MAKING SURE THAT THE COUNTY'S VOICE GETS HEARD IN WASHINGTON, DC AS TO THE IMPORTANCE OF THE MATTER AND NUECES COUNTY. WE HAVE AUTHORIZED -- NOT AUTHORIZED. WE ASKED, THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WORD, WE ASKED THAT THE TIM REACHED OUT TO OUR NATIONAL DELEGATION AND TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS TO TAKE IT TO THE HIGHEST LEVELS TO REACH OUT TO CONGRESSMAN CLOUD AND THAT WILL LISTEN DO EVERYTHING TO IMPRESS ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHO, UNFORTUNATELY, RUNS THIS, HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS TO NUECES COUNTY AND THE CITIZENS AND ALL OF THE CITIZENS BUT TO CONSTITUENTS IN PRECINCT 4. THIS IS A COUNTY-WIDE, WORLD WIDE, NATIONWIDE, NOT JUST IN MY PRECINCT BUT THERE IS, I THINK, THE COUNTY HAS RESPONDED AS APPROPRIATELY AS WE CAN AND HOW WE CAN RESPOND BETTER I KNOW THAT BOTH THE JUDGE AND I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HEARING THIS AND SO IMPORTANT TO KEEP THIS PROGRAM IN PLACE AND DONNA DOING IT AND KEEP RINGING THE BELL, IF YOU WILL, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING AWAY. WE ARE NOT GOING TO SIT SILENTLY IN THE NIGHT AS YOU WILL.

WE'RE GOING TO BE AS CROWD HAS WE CAN.

PO A LIGHT AND LOUD AT THE SAME TIME IT IS BOILS DOWN TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. ALL WE CAN DO IS CONTINUE TO SHARE THE IMPORTANCE THAT IT IS FOR NUECES COUNTY THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE THAT, WE HAVE DONE. THAT WOULD END MY PUBLIC COMMENT NOT IN RESPONSE TO THE PEOPLE BUT ON THE MATTER AS

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WELL. >> THANK YOU.

>> AGAIN I INVITE YOU ALL TO STAY, THERE IS AN ITEM, NUMBER 6 ON THE REGULAR AGENDA THAT MIGHT ALLOW ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO FURTHER COMMENT. THANK YOU I'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PERSON WHO SIGNED UP THAT IS HOMER.FLOREZ.

RECOGNIZES OUR JUVENILE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> I'M HOMER FLOREZ CHIEF JUVENILE JUSTICE FOR NUECES COUNTY.

I ONLY CAME BEFORE YOU WHEN IT INVOLVED MONEY.

>> HE IS RIGHT? >> I'M GUILTY I APOLOGIZE BEFORE HAND. I'M HERE TO MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT. ON NUMBER 20.

INVOLVING THE POSSIBILITY OF ARPA FUNDS FOR THE EMPLOYEE RAISES. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT A SUBSET OF EMPLOYEES AT THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD BE OUR JUVENILE SUPERVISION OFFICERS OR JSOS COMPARABLE TO JAILERS. THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING 24/7 SINCE THE PANDEMIC STARTED AT OUR FACILITIES.

THEY HAVE BEEN ACCEPTING KIDS, THEY HAVE BEEN PROCESSING KIDS. THEY HAVE AT TIMES PUT THEM IN HARM'S DAZE AND COVID AND BY WAY OF HAVING TO RESTRAIN KIDS FROM TIME TO TIME. AS A BENCH MARK WHICH IS 15, AT 10%. THIS IS GROSS.

THIS IS VERY ROUGH. 10% WOULD BE AT 1 $188,000.

IF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WOULD LOOK AT DIFFERENT CATEGORIES FOR THE MONIES, I ASK THEY GIVE THE JUVENILE SUPERVISION OFFICERS CONSIDERATION TO ANYTHING ABOVE THE 10%. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE NEXT PERSON WE HAVE IS JUAN JIMENEZ.

THE COURT RECOMMENDS THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

>> I WANTED TO UPDATE YOU A HIRED A NEW ENGINEER.

A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER. AND LJ FRANCES.

>> IT AND HE'S WELL KNOWN AND AND IMPROVEMENTS AND AND I KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE A NEW ENGINEER ON BOARD AND THE PUBLIC WORKS AND INTRODUCING THEM TO YOU AS COMMISSIONERS.

AND SO I WANTED TO UPDATE YOU ALL.

THANK YOU. >> YTHANK YOU, SIR.

>> THE NEXT AT LEAST 10 DEPUTY, TEN MORE HAVE SIGNED UP AND IN THE HALLWAY. WOULD YOU ASK THE SHERIFF TO COME FIRST OUT OF DEFERENCE TO THE ELECTED AND THEN HE CAN MAYBE LET US KNOW IF EACH OF THEM WILL COME OR BOLSTER ONE ANOTHER'S PUBLIC TESTIMONY. IF YOU WANTED TO SPEAK FIRST.

SHERIFF, GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, SIR.

WE HAVE A NICE GROUP THIS MORNING REPRESENTING YOUR OFFICE IN VARIOUS FACTIONS SOME HAVE SIGNED UP AND I WAS GOING TO CALL ON YOU AND ASK. I THINK THEY WANT TO COME IN,

SHERIFF. >> THEY DO.

>> DO YOU WANT TO INVITE THEM, DEPUTY.

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CAN THEY STAND ALONG THE WALL. WE'LL WAIT ON THEM.

HELLO, EVERYBODY. IF YOU JUST GATHER ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE ROOM AND SPREAD OUT FOR US, ALLOW FOR EVERYONE TO FIT. THANK YOU.

>> YOU HAVE A LOT OF WALL SPACE TO UTILIZE.

>> THERE IS SOME ROOM UP. WE DO HAVE SOME SIGNS.

WELCOME, EVERYBODY. WE'RE IN THE SEGMENT THAT WE ARE WE KNOW IS PUBLIC COMMENT. I'LL CALL YOU BY NAME AND YOU WILL HAVE TIME TO COME TO THE PODIUM.

WE HAVE SOMEONE CLEANING THE MIC IF YOU ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT IN BETWEEN YOUR COMMENTS, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

AS A REMINDER WE'RE HERE TO LISTEN AND WE TAKE EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAY, WE DON'T RESPOND IMMEDIATELY BUT WE ALWAYS INVITE YOU TO LISTEN TO THE REST OF THE COURT.

IT HAS A FUNNY WAY OF GETTING ADDRESSED THROUGH OTHER ITEMS. I SAY DON'T TAKE OUR SILENCE TO BE ANYTHING BUT HOW IMPORTANT WHAT YOU SAY IS AND WHAT HOW, WE'RE TAKING IT IN.

SHERIFF HOOPER, WELCOME. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, THE TOPIC THAT THE EMPLOYEES -- THE CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES OF THE NUECES COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE ARE HERE TO EXPRESS THIS MORNING HAS TO DO WITH THE TOPIC THAT AROSE AT THE LAST SESSION.

THAT HAD TO DO WITH HAZARDOUS DUTY PAY, COMPENSATION FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME ESPECIALLY RETROACTIVELY AND THAT WE HAVE ALL BEEN HACKING OUR WAY THROUGH AND THE.

THE PRESENTATION FOCUSED ON THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNIT AND THE SWORN AND THOSE MEN AND WOMEN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT ARE REPRESENTED BY THE ASSOCIATION.

SO WE HAD COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS, I WANTED TO GO ON THE RECORD AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT THAT TERM "NON-ESSENTIAL" IS NOT A LEGITIMATE TERM WHEN IT COMES TO THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO WORK FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

YES, SOME OF US HAVE BADGES AND SOME OF US HAVE GUNNELLS AND WORK IN THE JAIL BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS AND THE TERMED TO BE NON-ESSENTIAL. THE DETERMINE DOES NOT APPLY WHETHER IT IS A HURRICANE OR A PANDEMIC.

EVERYONE AT THE NUECES SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS A ESSENTIAL EMPLOYEE. THAT IS NO MORE OBVIOUS THAN WHAT OCCURRED IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.

THERE WERE MANY, MANY PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT AND IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHO WORKED FROM HOME FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER.

THAT DID NOT OWE SURE IN THE NUECES COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT LUXURY.

WE NEEDED ALL HANDS ON DECK INSIDE OUR WALLS, WHETHER THE ANNEX OR WHETHER IT WAS THE MAIN JAIL ACROSS THE HALLWAY.

SO, I JUST WANTED TO PREVIOUSAS -- PREFACE WHAT YOU WILL HERE TO LET YOU KNOW I STAND 100% BEHIND ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES, ALL OF THE WOMEN, THE MEN OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THANK YOU.

I'LL CALL YOU IN THE WAY YOU SIGNED UP.

PASSTY BALZ. WE'RE ALMOST READY FOR YOU

THERE. >> WELCOME.

FIRST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO SAY GOOD MORNING TO EVERYONE ALL MY CO-WORKERS, COMMISSIONERS, JUDGE, GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

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THE REASON I'M HERE I REPRESENTING MYSELF ALONG WITH SEVERAL OTHER CIVILIANS OR NON-ESSENTIAL AS WE LOVE TO BE CALLED, PERSONNEL. WE BELIEVE THAT WE DESERVE THE EXACT DEAL THE OFFICERS WERE GIVEN WHICH THEY WELL DESERVED IT. THE REASON WE DESERVE IT FOR THE REASON THEY WERE GIVEN IT. WE WERE HERE AND EXPOSED.

SOME ARE WITHIN THE JAIL, SOME OF THIS MAY NOT BE WITH THEM BUT WE GO IN AND OUT OF THE JAIL EVERY DAY, WE TOUCH PROPERTY, WE DEAL WITH PAPERWORK, SAME AIR SYSTEM THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE. THE OTHER REASON I WANT TO SAY GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHAT THE CIVILIANS DO.

WE'RE SUPPORT MORE THAN ANYTHING.

IF YOU GIVE YOU AN ANALOGY YOU HAVE A BRAIN, HEART AND YOU HAVE LUNGS. WE'RE THE BLOOD AND THE OXYGEN YOU NEED US TO HELP THE OTHER SYSTEM AND WHAT WE DO.

WE ARE HERE. WE ARE EXPOSED.

WE DID OUR PART. WE DID EXTRA NOT ONLY DO WE DO OUR REQUIRED JOBS AND A MANDATORY THINGS.

WE DID EXTRA THINGS. WHEN I SAY EXTRA FOR ME AN EXAMPLE IN MY DEPARTMENT, WHEN THE COURTS ARE NOT OPEN AND THE ATTORNEYS WERE NOT COMING IN. THERE NEEDED TO BE ZOOM COURTS, MEETINGS, THE ATTORNEYS NEEDED TO SPEAK WITH THEIR CLIENTS.

WE WERE THE ONES WHO HELPED DO THAT.

THAT'S AN EXTRA JOB THAT DIDN'T EXIST PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC.

>> I WOULD TAKE PAPERWORK AND PRINT IT OUT WHEN THINGS NEEDED TO BE SIGNED AND CHARGES ALLEN AND STAND IT IN, AND THE NORMAL THERE IS A LOT OF ATTORNEY PAPERWORK TP*EFPLT THE REPORT AND SUBMIT MONTHLY ALONE. YOU HAVE TO GATHER THINGS, THOSE THINGS CONTINUED ON, YOU HAVE THE WHOLE PANDEMIC.

WE WERE DOWN OFFICERS. WE WERE STILL PROCESSING THEM COMING IN. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I DO AND WHAT I DO, THEY DO THE TESTING THEY COME IN, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF EXPOSURE. I PROCESSED A GENTLEMAN EARLY IN THE MORNING HE CALLED ME BACK SAID, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW MY CHILDREN TESTED POSITIVE FORECOVID.

THIS IS PRIOR TO THE SHOT AND EVERYTHING.

I NOW HAVE TO GET TESTED. HE WAS POSITIVE.

AND INDIRECT EXPOSURE I DIDN'T COUNT ON.

NONETHELESS EXPOSED. I SAY YOU'RE NOT RIGHT IN THE FRONT LINE AND THERE HOLDING THAT INMATE.

NO, WE'RE STILL EXPOSED. IT EXISTS I STILL GO INTO JAIL AND THE OTHER CIVILIANS NOT JUST ME.

ALL OF US. A LOT OF THOSE REASONS AND MANY, MANY MORE, I DON'T WANT TO GO ON.

TIME IS VALUABLE HERE, I BELIEVE WE DESERVE THE SAME DEAL. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO.

>> AND. >> YOU WILL BE NEXT.

>> IF YOU PASS THE MIC TO CHRIS.

>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

>> AND I HAVE BEEN AN EMPLOYEE FOR THE SHERIFF'S EMPLOYEE THE LAST 29 YEARS AND DURING THIS. WE ARE THE FRONT LINE ALONG WITH THE CUSTOMERS. WE DO NOT HAVE THE LUXURY OF

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SOCIAL DISTANCING. THEY WERE USING OUR TELEPHONES

TALKING TO THE ATTORNEYS. >> I COULD BE A PARALEGAL WE SIGNED ALL OF THE PAPERWORK AND, WE WERE THERE JUST DAY IN AND DAY OUT. AND THE EXPOSURE AND THE RESULT OF THIS PANDEMIC I LOST MY MOTHER TO THIS.

KY NOT SAY THAT YOU KNOW SHE CAUGHT THIS FROM ME BRINGING IT HOME TO HER OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT AS PATTY WAS SAYING, WE DESERVE THE SAME THE RETROACTIVE. AND DAY IN AND OUT WE WERE THERE. NOBODY -- THE ATTORNEYS DIDN'T CARE. THEY HAD THE LUXURY OF COMING IN, BEING SEPARATED BY A PARTITION.

THEY DECIDED TO STAY AT HOME. WE DID OUR JOBS.

NOT ONE ATTORNEY BUT MOST OF THE ATTORNEYS WERE SPENDING IT TAY IN AND OUT. NOT ONLY -- WHAT IS THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR -- THEY WERE DEMANDING, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. I NEED THIS AND I NEED THAT.

WE HAD ALL THE OTHER NOT ONE B BUT.

THEY WERE BILLING YOU ALL FOR THE SERVICES AND PHONE CALLS BUT WE WERE GOING THROUGH REAMS OF PAPER DAY IN AND OUT.

IT'S NOT, I DON'T THINK IT IS FAIR AND THAT OTHERS THAT GOT TO STAY AT HOME, YOU KNOW. DIDN'T HAVE TO COME IN.

>> BUT I -- I'M ONE THAT I SPEAK FOR, YOU KNOW THE SUPPORT SYSTEM, DAY IN AND OUT. SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH OUR OFFICERS, WE WORK TOGETHER, WE DESERVE THAT RETROACTIVE AND

THE SAME AS THE OFFICER. >> THANK YOU, CHRIS.

MARIA FLORES. >>> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, I'M MARIA FLORES.

I WORK IN ADMINISTRATION IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

I'M HERE TO VOICE MY CONCERN ABOUT THE ARPA ABOUT THE RETRO PAY FOR THE EMPLOYEES THAT WAS ADDRESSED AT THE SPECIAL MEETING LAST WEEK. I'M SPEAKING TO YOU AS A CIVILIAN EMPLOYEE THAT HAS BEEN AT WORK EVERY DAY AND IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A STAGGERED SCHEDULE FOR TWO WEEKS IN MARCH OF 2020. WHICH WAS THE ON SET OF COVID.

AFTER THOSE TWO WEEKS, WE WERE REQUIRED TO RETURN TO WORK BECAUSE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FELL UNDER THE CRITERIA OF CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE. WE WERE NOT ABLE TO WORK FROM HOME OR SHUT DOWN FOR ANY EXPOSURE AT WORK OR AT HOME.

WE WORK AS STAFF SUPPORT FOR THE AGENCY ALONGSIDE.

AND WE ARE HERE AS A PUBLIC SERVICE ENTITY AND WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE NUECES COUNTY THAT EXPECT THE SERVICES THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE PROVIDES AND WE HAVE BEEN HERE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT POSSIBILITY E EVERY DAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THE CENTRAL REC RECORDS DIVISION THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR TO PROCESS CIVIL DOCUMENTS FOR OUR DEPUTIES TO POST OR SERVE.

MISDEMEANOR AND FELONY WARRANTS ARE PROCESSED FOR THE DEPUTIES TO SERVE. INDIVIDUALS ARRESTED OUT OF COUNTY OR OUT OF STATE ON THE NUECES WARRANTS NEED DETAINERS OR ARRANGEMENTS MADE TO GET THEM TRANSPORTED HERE TO THE JAIL OR EX EXTRADITED HERE. THE PROCESSING THE SURETY BONDS MUST BE PROCESSED IN A TIMELY MANNER.

THESE ARE EVERY DAY TASKS DONE BY THE CIVILIAN PERSON TOLL

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SUPPORT THE MISSION OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

WE HAVE TO BE -- WE HAVE TO BE PRESENT TO MAKE ALL THE THINGS HAPPEN AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT WE ARE AND HAVE BEEN.

PLEASE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING WAS ABLE TO SECURE RETRO AND HAZARD PAY FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL THEY REPRESENT.

WE THANK YOU THE COURT FOR ACKNOWLEDGING AND APPROVING THEIR REQUEST. IT WAS WELL DESERVED.

WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THE CIVILIAN PERSONNEL HAVE BEEN HERE WE WORK IN AN ENVIRONMENT EQUALLY EXPOSED AS OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL. DO NOT MAKE A DISTINCTION PLEASE US. DO NOT DISMISS THE FACT WE ARE HERE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT ALL SHERIFF AS OFFICE PERSONNEL SHOULD BE APPROVED FOR HAZARD AND RETRO PAY AND HOPE THAT THE COURT AS A MAJORITY IS IN AGREEMENT.

I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

NEXT UP I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE THERE ARE TWO OF YOU JACKIE AND SHANNON FOR THE RECORD STATE YOUR LAST NAME SO WE HAVE IT IN ITS COMPLETES IN.

>> THANK YOU, LADIES. >> GOOD MORNING, I'M JACQUELINE

LUCKY. >> GOOD MORNING, I'M SHANNON MESGROVE. WE WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM AND

HERE TOGETHER AS A TEAM. >> I LIKE THAT.

>> WE WORK IN THE SUPPER SECTION IN THE JAIL.

WE HAVE -- THE REASON FOR THE INTERRUPTION.

CONNIE MOTIONING IN ORDER FOR THE PEOPLE TO HEAR ONLINE GET THAT MIC CLOSER TO YOU. THANK YOU, JACKIE U.

>> WE WORK IN THE IDENTIFICATION SECTION IN THE JAIL. EVERY INMATE THAT COMES THROUGH THE NUECES COUNTY JAIL WE HAVE TO PROCESS THEM.

THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO TAKE THE PHOTOS, THE FINGERPRINT, INK PRINTS AND THE HISTORY OF THE INDIVIDUAL THAT COMES THROUGH THE JAIL. WE PROCESS THEM.

WE HAVE TO STAND WE'RE STANDING SIDE BY SIDE.

RIGHT HERE SIDE BY SIDE AND GET THE WORK DONE.

LIKE YESTERDAY WE HAD ONE GUY CAME IN HE TESTED POSITIVE.

WE ARE TO TEAM WORK. SHE TOOK THE HISTORY AND WE HAVE TO BE EXPOSED FOR TWO LONG.

ANOTHER THING WE HAVE TO BE AT WORK ALL THE OTHER AGENCIES WANTING DIFFERENT STUFF. SOCIAL SECURITY.

WORKFORCE, THEY ALL WANT INFORMATION HOW LONG WILL THE SUBJECT BE IN JAIL WE HAVE TO SEND PAPERWORK BACK TO PAROLE WHEN THEY COME TO JAIL WE HAVE TO SENT THOSE ARREST SHEETS TK-RBG - I'M KIND OF NERVOUS. I'M JUST SAYING I IF YOU CAN BE FAIR AND GIVE US THE SAME THING THAT YOU GAVE THE OFFICERS

THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> SHANNON. WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO?

>> SHE DID A GOOD JOB. WE WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW WE'RE THERE ON THE FLOOR, WE PROCESS THE INMATES WE HAVE NEW EMPLOYEES THAT COME IN WE HAVE TO PROCESS.

WE DON'T NOSE WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN.

WE GO UP FRONT AND DO THE FINGERPRINTS FOR THE PUBLIC OR LETTERS WHATEVER THEY NEED AND WE HAVE BEEN RIGHT THERE, COUGHED ON, SNEEZED ON. YESTERDAY I WAS SPIT ON, NOT ON PURPOSE. HE WAS ELDERLY.

RIGHT THERE. BODILY FLUIDS AND ALL.

WE COME TO WORK NO MATTER WHAT.

THAT'S OUR JOB AND THAT'S HOW WE WERE RAISED.

>> THANK YOU. >> WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SHANNON.

>> MAYBE ANOTHER GROUP AND THAT'S DEB AND MARIE.

>>> GOOD MORNING. >> I'M DEBBIE BRAMLET.

WE WORK IN THE BOOKING AREA OUR DUTIES ARE TO AND WE GET THE INFORMATION AND. JUST IN THE WINDOWS. ITIS OPEN. OPEN AREA.

WE HAVE OFFICERS COMING UP AND DOWN FOR WHERE WE'RE AT.

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NO SOCIAL DISTANCING ONCE HERE AND HERE AND ONCE IN THE BACK.

AND WE HAVE COMING THROUGH MEDICAL AROUND.

WE HAVE PROBATION. ALL THESE DIFFERENT AGENCIES COMING IN. THE WARRANTS THAT ARE FAXED.

THEY ARE RIGHT THERE WITH US. WE NOTARISE THE PAPERWORK.

WE HAVE INMATES. SIGNED PAPERWORK.

WE GET FINGERPRINTS, WE GIVE THEM PHONE CALLS.

THERE IS JUST A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

THERE IS NO ROOM FOR SOCIAL DISTANCING.

THERE IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST AROUND EVERYONE.

>> THIS IS REACHING OVER AND IT IS CONSTANT.

THEY'RE NEXT TO EACH OTHER WHEN WE ARE WORKING AND WE, WE TOLD YOU WHAT OUR DUTIES WERE THAT WE JUST -- I CONTRACTED COVID AT WORK. THAT YES CAN YOU GET IT BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION THAT WE WORK IN.

HALF OF THE CLERKS DID GET COVID SO WE HAVE TO FILL IN.

AND TAKING THIS HOME TO MY FRIEND.

WE ALL HAVE FAMILIES AND WE ALL HAVE ELDERLY GRANDPARENTS.

I HAVE A DAUGHTER WITH SPECIAL NEEDS, MY FEAR IS TO TAKE IT HOME TO HER. NOW I HAVE ANXIETY.

>> IT HAS TAKEN A LOT. I'M OKAY.

JUST NERVOUS. >> WE WANTED TO GIVE OUR PART AND LET YOU KNOW THAT WE AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS SAY HE WE SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE AGREEMENT AS WELL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> FRANCIS MARTINEZ.

FOLLOWING FRANCIS WILL BE CAROLINE WOLF.

>>> GOOD MORNING, I JUST GOD MARRIED A COORDINATOR.

THE DESCRIPTION DESCRIBES ME AS THE LIASION BETWEEN THE COURT AND THE JAIL. IN MARCH OF 2020 WHEN THE PANDEMIC REACHED NUECES COUNTY AS WELL AS OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD A DECISION WAS MADE TO HAVE EMPLOYEES WORK FROM HOME.

BECAUSE THE JOB DUTIES OF THE COORDINATOR REQUIRE US TO BE HANDS ON, WORKING -- WORKING FROM HOME WAS NOT AN OPTION.

WE WERE TOLD TO WORK EVERY OTHER DAY BUT BECAUSE WORK STARTED TO PILE UP AS WE RECEIVED CALLS NOT ONLY FROM THE COURT BUT THE OTHER COUNTIES, WE WERE TOLD TO RETURN TO THE NORMAL MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY SCHEDULE.

WE CONTINUED TO COME TO WORK DESPITE THE CONTINUES AND BECAUSE THE OFFICES ARE LOCATED INSIDE OF THE JAIL.

WE WERE EXPOSED AS INMATES. OFFICERS AND OTHER CIVILIANS AND BEING DIAGNOSED WITH THE VIRUS.

WE MAY NOT BE CALLED UPON DURING A NATURAL DISASTER.

OUR JOB DUTY MAKE US A PART OF THE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT RUNS THE JAIL. IF WE DO NOT DO OUR PART TO ENSURE THAT EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER TO RELEASE THE INMATES IT IS NOT CONTROLLED. AND PUT THE OFFICERS AS WELL AS CIVILIANS IN DANGER AS WE ALREADY WORK WITH SHORT STAFFED SHIFTS. I AM IN NO WAY DISCREDITING THE JOB OF MY CO-WORKERS BUT I THOUGHT WE ARE AT HIGHER RISK OF BEING EXPOSED THAN THOSE THAT WERE ABLE TO WORK FROM HOME. I COMMEND YOU FOR DECIDING TO GRANT THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT AS A VERY THEY DO DESERVE IT. SKI THAT YOU DO NOT FORGET ABOUT US. PLEASE DO NOT FORGET ABOUT THE CIVILIANS NOT INCLUDED IN THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT WHO ALSO WORKED AND CONTINUE TO WORK IN THE HAZARDOUS CONDITIONS. CONSIDER EXTENDING THE OPPORTUNITY TO THOSE NOT IN UNIFORM WHO ARE CONSTANTLY EXPOSED TO COVID-19. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> CAROLINE WOLF?

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>> THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME ADDRESS THE COURT TODAY.

I AM THE CRIME DATA SUPERVISOR.

>> TAKE YOUR TIME. THE SUPERVISOR FOR THE CRIME DATA DIVISION AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

MY DEPARTMENT IS A 24-HOUR DIVISION THEY NEVER GET TO LEAVE WHETHER IT BE HURRICANES, THE FREEZE OR ANYTHING.

MY PEOPLE DON'T GET TO LEAVE. THEY ARE OVER THE COMMUNICATION HUB BETWEEN NATIONAL AND TEXAS SYSTEMS THAT WE ENTER THE WARRANTS ON, MISSING PEOPLE, VEHICLES, ANYTHING.

WE HAVE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN OTHER AGENCIES THAT WE PLACE DETAINERS WITH AND OTHERS THAT HAVE -- THAT WE ARREST THE INMATE ON AND THEY PLAY. IT IT COMES TO THE COMMUNICATION HUB AND MY PEOPLE HAVE TO MAN IT 24 HOURS A DAY.

7 DAYS A WEEK, THERE IS NO BREAK.

THEY HAVE TO HANDLE JAIL INFORMATION BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS THE JAIL NEVER CLOSES.

EVERYONE COMES IN. >> AND THEY TAKE ON EXTRA DUTIES. I FEEL MY PEOPLE ARE ESSENTIAL JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER CIVILIAN THAT WORKS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TIME SKI THAT YOU DO NOT FORGET US THAT WE BE INCLUDED AND WE DIDN'T GET TO STAY HOME. WE WERE HERE WITH THE OFFICERS WORKING WITH THEM AS WELL. I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>>> THE LAST PERSON WE HAVE THEN LOOK ONLINE AFTER THAT.

I'M LOOK. TYNER IF YOU START.

THAT IF YOU ARE ONLINE AND WANT TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, DESIGNATE THAT BY LOSING THE NATURAL HAND TO YOU ON THE SCREEN. AND LASTLY IN IT PRESENCE OF

THE COURT IS CYNTHIA MARTINEZ. >> I WILL HAVE MY NOTES ON THE PHONE I'LL BRING THEM UP. SORRY.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE THIS MORNING.

AND WE HAD ABOUT 50 OR 60 PEOPLE HERE WHO WERE WISHING TO BE HERE. I THINK MOST SUPERVISORS WOULD HAVE FOUND THE CIVILIAN STAFF WALKING UP TO COME OVER HERE.

PGH THERE THERE ARE 20 HERE AND THERE ARE 40 OTHERS WE ASKED TO STAY BEHIND BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANT OF OUR WORK.

THERE WERE OTHERS WE TRIED TO MINIMISE THE SPEAKERS AND THOSE HERE FOR THE SAKE OF THE TIME OF THE AND FOR OUR WORK AS WELL. , I WILL SAY I'M CYNTHIA MARTINEZ I WORK IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

I'M THE OFFICE MANAGER IN ADMINISTRATION AND SUPERVISE.

I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT YOU IN GIVING THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNIT AND THE CADETS HAZARD PAY IT IS WELL DESERVED YOU SHOULD BE APPLAUDED FOR DOING THIS.

, PLEASE CONSIDER INCLUDING US.

THERE IS A LOT OF MISINFORMATION OUT THERE RIGHT NOW WHICH IS CAUSING UNNECESSARY STRESS FOR PEOPLE.

NONE OF US ARE HERE TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM OUR CO-WORKERS AND THOSE IN THE COLLECT I BARGAINING UNIT.

THAT'S NOT THE COMMENT. WE WANT TO BE INCLUDED AS WELL. WE'RE NOT HERE TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO WELL DESERVE WHAT THEY WERE GIVEN. WE ARE NOT LICENSED OFFICERS, WE DO WORK IN AND AROUND THE JAIL WITH THE STRAFE AND OTHER FIELD OFFICERS. THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAY ROLL WHICH IS FOR ABOUT 300, 350 PEOPLE, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WE HAVE IN ANY GIVEN TIME.

AND PERSONNEL PROCESSING, ACCOUNTS PAYABLE.

WE WORK IN AREAS SUCH AS THOSE THAT WERE REVEL MENTIONED JAIL ADMINISTRATION. AND CIVIL PROCESSING.

ID COURT COORDINATORS AND COUNSELING WHICH ARE A PART OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. WHEN THIS STARTED IN MARCH OF

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2020 WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A FEW WEEKS.

AND TRY OUR BEST. AND THE SAME TIME AND AFTER A COUPLE OF WEEKS OF OPERATING IN THE MANNER IT WAS CLEAR THAT THIS WAS NOT GOING TO AWAY ANY TIME SOON AND LAST LONGER.

AT THAT TIME THE DECISION WAS MADE THAT EVERY EMPLOYEE, CIVILIAN AND OFFICER WOULD REPORT BACK TO DUTY EVERY DAY AS REGULARLY SCHEDULED AS THE JOBS ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO DO FROM HOME. WE KEEP SAYING WE CANNOT WORK FROM HOME. IT'S NOT BECAUSE THE SHERIFF WOULD NOT ALLOW US TO DO THAT. ONE WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY. WE HAVE 60 CIVILIANS IT WOULD TAKE 60 LAB TOPS AND ACCESS OF THOSE THINGS TO GET NOT TO MENTION THAT THE DUE TO THE SENSITIVITY OF THE WORK WE DO.

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO DO OUR JOBS FROM HOME.

SO WHEN WE KEEP SAYING WE DIDN'T GET TO WORK FROM HOME IT WAS NOT BECAUSE SOMEBODY PUT US IN TIME OUT WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SO. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTOOD THAT. WHEN WE DID REPORT BACK TO WORK. WE WERE UNDER THE CDC FOR CREDIBLE INFRASTRUCTURE. AT THIS POINT IT WAS ALL HANDS ON DECK AND HAS BEEN SO SINCE. I WOULD SAY IN JULY 15TH OF 2020, THE COURT -- IT WAS BROUGHT TO THE COURT AT THAT TIME AND THE COURT VOTED TO EXEMPT ALL SHERIFF'S OFFICE EMPLOYEES FROM THE FAMILY FIRST CORONAVIRUS RESPONSE ACT FOR QUALIFYING REASONS NUMBER 4 FOR WHICH CARING FOR AN INDIVIDUAL SUBJECT IN ISOLATION OR SELF-QUARANTINE.

FIVE, CARRYING FOR HIS OR HER CHILDS WHO SCHOOL OR PLACE OF CARE IS CLOSED OR CHILD CARE PROVIDER IS UNAVAILABLE.

NUMBER SIX, EXPERIENCING ANY OTHER CONDITIONS SPECIFIED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES.

I WILL SAY THE COURT WAS EXTREMELY HESITANT TO PASS THIS, YOU ALL MADE IT CLEAR YOU WANTED IT DONE AS A LAST RESORT, IT PASSED AND AT THAT TIME THERE WAS NO DISTINCTION MADE BETWEEN CIVILIAN PERSONNEL AND OFFICERS.

WHEN WE WERE EXEMPT, IT WAS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, INCLUDING DILLANS AT THAT TIME. WE WERE HERE EVERY DAY.

WE WERE ENSURING THERE WAS A TIME WHEN WE WERE HERE AND SOME OF US WERE ENSURING THE INMATES HAD TOILET PAPER WHEN WE DID NOT HAVE ANY AT HOME. WE WERE COUNTY HAVE AN ABILITY TO GET IN LINE. A SHERIFF OUT OF THE FUND BOUGHT TOILET PAPER FOR THE EMS THEY COULD NOT GO STAND IN LINE TO GET IT. WE WERE AN ANSWERING HUB FOR THE COUNTY WHEN PEOPLE CALL HE WE WERE THE ONLY AND WE GOT INUNDATED WITH CALLS. OUR LOGS INCREASED TEN FOLD IF NOT MORE WHEN THE COURTHOUSE WAS CLOSED.

WE WERE HERE WE WERE S SECLUDED FROM OUR FAMILY MEMBERS. THE SHERIFF LOFT A THIRD.

WHAT WAS NOT MENTIONED THEY WERE STAFF MEMBERS WERE CIVILIANS. WE HAD CIVILIANS WHO CONTRACTED COVID. THERE IS A LOT OF DISTINCTION BETWEEN THOSE WHO WORK IN THE OFFICE AND THE OFFICES ARE OUTSIDE OF THE JAIL. I ARGUE THAT THE HOME COME INTO THE OFFICE WE DEAL WITH PAPERWORK, PERSONNEL, EVERY INCOMING AND OUTGOING PERSON GO THROUGH THE OFFICES AT ANY GIVEN TIME. SOME OF US HAD FAMILY MEMBERS IN OUR OWN HOME WITH COVID. I, MYSELF, HAD A SON WHO CONTRACTED COVID AND I HAD TO MAKE HIM STAY IN THE GARAGE FOR

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TWO WEEKS BECAUSE I HAD TO BE AT WORK EVERY DAY.

AS CIVILIANS BECAUSE WE WERE EXPOSED AND YOU HEARD SOME OF THE STORIES OF HOW THE EMPLOYEES WERE EXPOSED.

WE HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO MORE TESTING PROBABLY THAN ANY OTHER DIVISION IF WE TOOK A POLL AND ANYBODY WHO HAD THAT TEST IT IS NOT PLEASANT. BUT WE WERE TESTED EVERY OTHER WEEK IF NOT MORE THAN THAT. THE OTHER DISTINCTION I WOULD MAKE THAT WE -- BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO WORK FROM HOME. THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENCES.

I AM IN NO WAY TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE WORK PEOPLE DID DO FROM HOME BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IF THEY WERE ABLE TO DO THAT I'M GLAD THEY WERE ABLE TO STAY SAFE BUT THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO AND WE HAD TO ENDURE THAT OTHERS THAT DID HAVE IT TO WORK FROM HOME.

SOME OF THOSE THAT I JUST KIND OF THOUGHT OF ARE THINGS LIKE, WE HAD TO FUEL UP THE CAR TOE COME TO WORK EVERY DAY.

THAT'S AN EXPENSE INCURRED BY THE CIVILIAN PERSON THAT HAD TO BE HERE EVERY DAY THEY WERE WORKING FROM HOME DID NOT.

WE ARE TO PAY -- HAD TO PAY FOR DAYCARE AND TAKE THEM EARLY TO DROP THEM OFF SOMEWHERE SO WE COULD BE HERE THOSE WORKING FROM HOME DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

AND DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE MASK MANDATE THOSE THAT WORKED 8, 10, 12 HOURS BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY.

WEARING MASKS 8, 1 0 AND 12 HOURS A DAY.

SOMETHING GETTING UP EARLIER TO GET DRESSED TO GET HERE THAT OTHER PEOPLE DEPENDENT HAVE TO DO A WE DID.

AND SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS PACKING A LUNCH FOR PAY FOR ONE WE WERE AT WORK AND NOT AT HOME WITH OUR CHILDREN.

MY CO-WORKERS WE WORK EIGHT AND TEN HOURS A DAY WHEN THIS WORKED AND GET HOME AND PUT ON OUR TEACHING HATS AND START BEING OUR KID'S TEACHERS AT THAT POINT WE WERE NOT HOME WITH THEM. I WOULD SAY SOME OF US WOULD TEACH AND DO HOMEWORK WITH OUR KIDS UNTIL 11 AT NIGHT BECAUSE WE WERE NOT THERE WITH THEM DURING THE DAY.

ADD GET UP AND DO IT OVER AGAIN TO BE HERE.

>> THOSE WERE SOME OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO POINT OUT BECAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WELL YOU'RE INCLUDED IN THIS GROUP. AND IT IS A DIFFICULT BECAUSE IT IS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO PERSUADE YOU HOW WE SHOULD BE INCLUDED AND TRY TO GOT WHY WE ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE ONES THE CIVILIANS THAT, WE HAVE BEEN HERE.

WE'RE WORKING UNDER THE SAME GUIDELINES AS THE CO-WORKERS.

WE JUST ASK THAT YOU RECONSIDER INCLUDING THE CIVILIAN PERSONNEL AS PART OF THE GROUP THAT WILL RECEIVE THE HAZARD

PAY. >> THANK YOU, WE PROTECT EVERYONE THAT CAME TODAY AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICIALS AND THOSE FROM JUVENILE, HOMER AND THE COMMENTS.

>> EXCUSE ME, JUDGE. >> MAY I MAKE A COMMENT? JUST MAKE A COMMENT. I CAN SIGN YOU UP.

ALLOW ME TO FINISH. I CAN CALL ON YOU SIR.

I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT, YOU WILL NOTICE AS I ALWAYS DO, TO LET YOU NOSE THERE ARE SOME AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE EXACTLY ON POINT WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE TODAY.

THEY ARE TOWARD THE MIDDLE OF THE AGENDA.

I HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY COUNCIL THEY WILL BE TAKEN UP IN EXECUTIVE SESSION NOT TO SAY WE WILL NOT COME OUT AND DISCUSS IT. WE WILL.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE LAY OF THE LAND SO THAT YOU WOULD BEING HERE IS A LONG AFTERNOON.

CAN YOU WATCH ON OUR VIRTUAL TECHNOLOGY.

AND WHEN WE GET THERE I WOULD LIKE SO MANY THINGS TO ARTICULATE AND MY GRATITUDE FOR YOU BEING HERE BUT I WILL WAIT UNTIL THOSE COME UP THE LAWYERS WILL REMIND US THAT'S THE

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BETTER TIME TO DO SO. THAT'S JUST SORT OF A HOUSEKEEPING PROCESS I WILL ASK THE COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ WHAT I JUST SAID IN MIND IF THAT IS ABOUT WHAT THEIR HERE FOR.

>> JUST A COMMENT. >> OKAY.

>> JUST REMEMBER WE'RE GOING TO COME INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

I KNOW YOU I WORK IN PURCHASING, MOST OF YOU WENT TO PICK UP SUPPLIES. I KNOW WHAT YOU DO.

IT IS ONE CANNOT DO WITHOUT THE OTHER WHETHER YOU WEAR A UNIFORM OR NOT. IT TAKES ALL OF YOU.

YOU LOST SOME FRIENDS AND CO-WORKERS.

, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL KNOW HOW MANY OTHER EMPLOYEES THAT COULD NOT MAKE IT BACK. AND HOW IT IS DONE.

MAYBE CAN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THEM. I KNOW THAT ONE FAMILY THAT IS STILL SUFFERING BECAUSE THE LADY USED TO WORK THERE AND, I WANT TO THANK YOU. HAVE A GREAT DAY WE'LL DO THE BEST WE CAN TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO HELP YOU OUT.

, ILL WILL ASK YOU TO CLEAR FOR THE COURTROOM TO LET THE NEXT GROUP COME IN AND WE WILL SEE YOU SHORTLY.

>> I WILL MOVE ON TO THE, YOU KNOW, I SAW CHARLIE WALK IN.

, WE'LL LET THEM CLEAR THE KURT ROOM.

>> AND CHAIRMAN ZAHN HE HAS A FEW COMMENTS ON THE AN ITEM THAT WILL HAPPEN LATER BUT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.

>> I HAVE THE HONOR OF BEING THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COURT OF CORPUS CHRISTI AUTHORITY COMMISSION YOU HAVE A CONSIDERATION TODAY IT NUECES COUNTY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND THE FUNDING OF THAT. AND THE COURT OF CORPUS CHRISTI IS. AND WE'RE JUST NOW INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS. AND.

WE HAVE OUR AND THE END OF NOVEMBER WE HAVE THE FUND WHAT THAT MUND IS THAT IT IS 3% OF THE BUDGET THAT WE ALLOCATE FOR TWO PURPOSES. THE FIRST IS TO PROMPT THE COURT AND OUR COMMUNITY AND THEN THE VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT PLACES SOME OF THE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE SUCCESS OF THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE IT A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE THAT EACH ONE OF US ENJOY AND THE SECOND IS THAT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND WE'RE THE NUMBER ONE ECONOMIC INDICATOR, I BELIEVE. FOR THE COAST IDEA AT THE COURT OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND THE NUMBER ONE PORT AND EXPORT COURT, WE'RE THE NUMBER THREE BY VOLUME IN THE COUNTRY TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAY AS ROLE IN THE SUCCESS OF THE COURT OF CORPUS CHRISTI T IS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM VISITING WITH THE MEMBERS OF YOUR STAFF AND THE JUDGE THAT THE NUECES COUNTY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION PLAYS A ROLL IN HELPING TO BRING THE TYPE OF INDUSTRY AND BUSINESSES IN THAT BENEFIT THE COURT OF CORPUS CHRISTI. I WILL TELL YOU THAT IN TALKING WITH THE STAFF YESTERDAY THAT WE WILL INCLUDE IN OUR BUDGET FOR 21, 22, PROMOTION AND DEVELOPMENT FUNDS . WE HAVE ALLOCATED IN THAT BUDGET A SUM FOR THE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION THIS YEAR. AND WE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR 125

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AND 150 THOUGHT FOR THE COMING YEAR.

I DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO STAND BEFORE YOU WATER THE COMMISSION TO TELL YOU WHAT WE'LL DO THAT.

>> AND. >> THE DEVELOPMENT IS TO THE THAT WE'LL CONSIDER THAT AND ONCE WE DO.

AND WITHOUT ANY HESITATION WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR THE CORPORATION. AND I CAN'T UNTIL WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND TELL YOU HOW MUCH.

>> , I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT AND OF COURSE AS YOU KNOW YOU SAT IN THE CHAIR IN A DIFFERENT CHAIR BUT AS THE CHAIRMAN , ALL

I CAN SAY IS THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.

>> THAT DOES CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

[1. In recognition of October 3, 2021 through October 9, 2021 as National 4-H Week.]

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON AND ASK THE GROUP THAT REPRESENTS NUECES SO WELL, THOSE ARE THE GREEN JACKETS OUR 4-H AMBASSADORS ARE HERE TO START THE PROCESS OF OUR RESOLUTION AND PROCLAMATIONS AND WRECK YONON OF OCTOBER 3, 2021 THROUGH OCTOBER 9TH. 2021 AS NATIONAL 4-H WEEK.

WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THE MEMBERS MEMBERS WITH US WHEN YOU SEE A GREEN JACKET YOU SHOULD FEEL LIKE THE WEST HAS COME AMONGST YOU WE'LL ASK THE SPONSOR TO MAKE COMMENTS.

HE IS HERE WITH US. >> THE NEWS COUNTY IS PROUD TO HONOR THE 4 H YOUTH DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM OF THE TEXAS A&M AGRA LIFE EXTENSION FOR 114 YEARS OF PROVIDING EXPERIENCE BASED EDUCATION TO YOUNGSTERS THROUGHOUT THE LONE STAR STATE. WHEREAS THE PROGRAM WHICH SEEKS TO PROVIDE A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR THE WHOLE CHILD, INCLUDING HEAD, HEART, HANDS AND HEALTH, HELPS YOUNG TEXANS TO ACQUIRE KNOWLEDGE, DEVELOP LIFE SKILLS AND INFORMED ATTITUDES TO ALLOW THEM TO BE SELF-DIRECTED, PRODUCTIVE AND CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY.

WHEREAS IT IS MORE THAN 550,000 URBAN, SUBURBAN AND RURAL YOUNG PARTICIPANTS RANGING IN AGE FROM 8 TO 19.

A THEY HAIL FROM DIVERSE AND SOCIO ECONOMIC BACKGROUNDS AND REPRESENT A CROSS-SECTION OF THE STATE.

THE PROGRAM UNDOUBTEDLY COULD NOT HAVE ACHIEVED THE SUCCESS IT HAS TODAY NOT FOR THE SERVICE OF THE 22,000 OF THE TIME, TALENTS AND ENERGIES AND RESOURCES TO THE YOUTH OF TEXAS. THROUGHOUT THE PROUD HISTORY THE 4-H PROGRAM HAS DEVELOPED ROLE MODELS FOR COUNTLESS TEXANS THROUGH THE INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS AND CONTINUES TO BUILD THE CHARACTER AND TO INSTILL THE VALUES THAT HAVE MADE OUR STATE STRONG AND GREAT. NOW BE PROCLAIMED THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF NUECES COUNTY DOES FORMALLY DESIGNATE D THROUGH THE 9TH, 2021 AS 4-H WEEK IN NUECES COUNTY AND COMMENDS THE YOUTH DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM OF THE EXTENSION SERVICE AND THE MANY MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE MADE THE PROGRAM

A SUCCESS. >> I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

DO I HEAR A SECOND? >> A SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND CALL FOR DISCUSSION AND WELCOME THE AGENT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS

THIS MORNING? >> YES, I'M THE 4-H AGENT IN NUECES COUNTY. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU THE JUDGE AND EVERY COMMISSIONER HERE FOR SUPPORTING THE PROGRAM AND HAVING SIGNING THE PROCLAMATION FOR 4-H WEEK.

THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THE KIDS AND I AS I START I MY NEW CAREER THROUGH THE PROGRAM AS WELL.

THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.

>> YES. >> WE HAVE SOME GOODIES FOR YOU

ALL. >> LET'S DO A QUICK, WHY DON'T YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL US WHICH PROGRAM YOU BELONG TO. JUST NICE AND LOUD BECAUSE -- THEY CAN WALK UP TO THE MIC QUICK.

>> OR TAKE IT TO THEM AND PASS IT AROUND.

>> DO NOT TAKE THE COOKIES OVER THERE --

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A COUNTY AMBASSADOR AND JOY TO BE HERE WITH YOU ALL TODAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ANDY, A AMBASSADOR WITH THE

STATE WATER INVEST AMBASSADOR. >> WHAT SCHOOL YOU'RE FROM.

>> WHAT CLUB. >> WHAT CLUB.

ASHCHERRY AND ROAD RUNNER 4 H AND HOME SCHOOL STUDENT AND

DUAL CREDIT AT DELMAR. >> 4 H AND CALLEN HIGH SCHOOL.

>> JOSH I'M A HEALTH AMBASSADOR, HOME SCHOOLED.

I'M IN THE TEXAS ROTARY CLUB AND OCEAN CLUB.

>> I'M LAYTON. I'M A PART OF THE BISHOP 4 H

CLUB. >> I'M CAITLIN LAWRENCE I GO TO BISHOP HIGH SCHOOL I'M A PHOTOGRAPHY STATE AMBASSADOR

AND MAIN PROJECT IS RAPIDS. >> -- RABBITS.

>> BETH I'M SOME SCHOOLED A HEALTH AMBASSADOR IN THE NUTRITION, EXCUSE ME, THE TEXAS ROAD RUNNERS AND ARCHERY CLUB.

>> JACKSON GROVE A SENIOR AT LONDON HIGH SCHOOL.

THE PROJECTS ARE STEM AND LEADERSHIP AND I GO TO THE LONDON 4 H CLUB AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE CLUB, THE COUNTY COUNCIL AS WELL AND SECOND VICE AT THE DISTRICT.

I'M MANNA WRIGHT IN TRAVELING. >> I'M JULIA, A SENIOR.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE PADRE ISLAND CLUB AN AMBASSADOR AND

LIFE AMBASSADOR. >> THANKS TO ALL OF YOU HERE.

I HAVE THE DISTINCTION OF HOLDING THE RESOLUTION I WOULD LOVE TO PRESENT IT TO YOU. I'M GRAB MY MASK AND ASK LOGAN TO TAKE A PICTURE. COME HERE WE'LL STAND UP.

I BET YOU WANT TO RELINQUISH THE PINK BOXES.

WE'LL LET YOU. TAKE THOSE OFF YOUR HAND.

I WANT TO SAY THAT YOU KNOW THROUGHOUT THE LAST THREE YEARS THAT I HAVE BEEN THE COUNTY JUDGE.

I MAKE NO SECRET ABOUT SOME OF MY FAVORITE.

YOU'RE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST. I GET SUPER EMOTIONAL ABOUT HOW YOU REPRESENT THE CHARACTER AND LEADERSHIP WHEN EVERYTHING GOES WRONG AND TRUST ME IT HAS GONE WAY WRONG SO MANY TIMES, YOU ARE THE SHINING LIGHT. AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO FOR 4-H, IT IS PAYING IT FORWARD 100 TIMES OVER.

AND SO I'M HAPPY THAT IT IS YOUR WEEK NATIONALLY.

IT MAKES ME PROUD THAT YOU REPRESENT US SO WELL AT THE STATE LEVEL. THE BEST IS GETTING BETTER.

YOU ARE. YOU KEEP TAKING THAT MARK AND MAKING IT HIGHER AND HIGHER. LOGAN YOU HAVE DONE A BEAUTIFUL JOB. KYLE WAS BELOVED AND HARD TO FILL THE BIG SHOES. YOUR FEET A BIG.

ARE YOU FINE AND PROUD OF YOU, YOU REPRESENT THEIR GENERATION AND IN MANY WAYS IT IS PROBABLY FEELS GOOD TO THEM AND YOU.

SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AGAIN THIS YEAR. WE HAVE A BIG FALL COMING UP.

YOU CAN SEE THE SEASONS CHANGING IT IS TIME TO THINK ABOUT COTTON CLASSIC AND THINK ABOUT THE JUNIOR LIVESTOCK SHOW NOT TOO EARLY TO START WORKING ON OUR COURT TO GET THEM MORE ENGAGED WITH WHAT YOU DO OUT AT THE FAIRGROUNDS COME JANUARY.

CONGRATS ON, HONESTLY. YOU MAY NOT ALWAYS WEAR IT BUT DO YOU IN MY BOOK EVERY SINGLE DAY.

THANK YOU AGAIN. LET'S TAKE THAT GREAT PICTURE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PASSING THE RESOLUTION SAY AYE.

AYE. WE'LL STAND HERE FOR SAFETY.

I'LL TAKE THIS OFF.

[2. In recognition of October 11, 2021 through October 17, 2021 as National Police Week.]

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>>> THANK YOU GUYS. >> LET'S ROLL TO THE NATIONAL POLICE WEEKMENT AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THE FIRST RESPONDERS. TYNER, THAT'S OCTOBER 11TH THROUGH THE 17TH. WE'RE AHEAD.

THE NEXT MEET SOMETHING AFTER THE 17TH WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THIS. WE HAVE A MEMBER, IF NOT, SHERIFF HOOPER WOULD YOU ACCEPT AND MAYBE WE'LL GET IT TO THE

CHIEF? >> I'LL BEGIN, JUDGE.

>> THANK YOU. WHEREAS, THERE ARE MORE THAN 800,000 LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS SERVING IN COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, INCLUDING THE DEDICATED LAW ENFORCEMENT MEMBERS OF NUECES COUNTY.

WHEREAS, SINCE THE FIRST RECORDED DEATH IN 1791 MORE THAN 22,000 LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS IN THE UNITED STATES HAVE MADE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE AND EVENT KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY AND INCLUDING 38 MEMBERS OF THE NUECES COUNTY AREA LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES REPRESENTED ON THE FALLEN HERO'S MEMORIAL. WHEREAS, THE NAMES OF THE DEAD TATED PUBLIC SERVANTS ARE ENGRAVED ON THE WALLS OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER'S MEMORIAL IN WASHINGTON, DC.

WHEREAS, 394 NEW NAMES OF FALLEN HEROS ARE BEING ADDED TO THE NATIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER'S MEMORIAL THIS SPRING. INCLUDING 295 OFFICERS KILLED IN 2020 AND 99 KILLED IN PREVIOUS YEARS.

WHEREAS, OCTOBER 16TH, 2021 IS DESIGNATED AS PEACE OFFICER'S MEMORIAL DAY IN HONOR OF ALL FALLEN OFFICERS AND FAMILIES, ALL U.S. FLAGS SHOULD BE FLOWN AT HALF STAFF.

NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF NUECES COUNTY DESIGNATE OCTOBERH HOW THE 17 AS POLICE WEEK IN NUECES COUNTY AND PUBLICLY SALUTES THE SERVICE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IN COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NATION. SO MOVED.

>> SO MOVED. ALL THOSE IN SAFER SAY AYE.

>> JUDGE THIS IS A -- I WANTED TO ADD A GREAT DISTINCTION TO RECOGNIZE THE LAWSUIT WE SUPPORT AND PLEASURE TO BE HERE I DON'T WANT TO RUN PAST THIS WITHOUT MAKING COMMENTS AND APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO AND THE PEOPLE YOU SERVE W.

>> SHERIFF, SOMETIMINGS WE DO HAVE CEREMONIES.

DO WE HAVE ANYTHING PLANNED WHAT WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT BUT IF NOT, ONE WE CAN PLAN WITH YOU.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, CHIEF. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THIS A PUSH BACK FROM THE MONTH OF MAY.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT THAT TIME.

I WILL COMMUNICATE WITH THE CHIEF AND THE OTHER LEADERS IN THE COUNTY AND KEEP YOU APPRISED OF ANY CEREMONIES OR EVENTS RELATED TO THIS. THANK YOU FOR THE RECOGNITION IT MEANS A LOT TO THE MEN AND WOMEN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT THROUGHOUT NUECES COUNTY THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND ALL OF

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THE LAW ENFORCEMENT EMPLOYEES. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >>> IT WOULD BE MY HONOR TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU, SHERIFF. >>> THANK YOU, TYNER.

[3. In recognition of the month of October 2021 as Domestic Violence Awareness and Prevention Month.]

>>> THANK YOU. >>> THE NEXT RECOGNITION IS IMPORTANT THAT'S THE RECOGNITION OF OCTOBER BEING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS AND PREVENTION MONTH.

AND WE SEEK TO WELCOME, I WOULD SAY WE HAVE A GROUP OF WOMEN THAT ARE HERE. LET'S GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO

COME INTO THE COURTROOM AND -- >> JUDGE KLINE IS HERE AS WELL.

, I WAS THINK HOG IS THAT PERSON BACK THERE I RECOGNIZE BUT CUZ NOT SPLAYS. THAT'S AMAZING THE MASK DOES THROW ME SOMETIMES. I APOLOGIZE IF I HAD RECOGNIZED I WOULD HAVE ADVANCED THE ITEM, MY APOLOGIES, JUDGE.

THIS ONE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO BE MINDFUL EVERY WORD IS READ.

>> WHEREAS, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS ABOUT POWER AND CONTROL.

IN THE UNITED STATES, ONE IN THREE WOMEN AND ONE IN SIX MEN WILL EXPERIENCE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN THEIR LIFETIME.

COVID-19 HAS COMPELLED SOME SURVIVORS TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES. ABUSERS USE ISOLATION AND FEAR AS A TOOL TO EXERT CONTROL OVER THE VICTIMS. WHEREAS, COVID-19 HAS COMPELLED SOME SURVIVORS AGAIN TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES, ABUSERS OFTEN USE ISOLATION AS A FEAR TOOL.

WHEREAS, SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE FEEL ISOLATED AND ATHONE THOSE WHO EXPERIENCE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE MAY BE LEFT WITH LINGERING EFFECTS, INCLUDING MENTAL HEALTH DISORDERS SUCH AS ANXIETY, DEPRESSION, OR POST TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER. AN ABUSIVE PARTNER WILL USE EMOTIONAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSE AS NAME CALLING OR PUTTING THE VICTIM DOWN AND THEN CASE LATE TO PHYSICAL VIOLENCE. WHEREAS ABUSERS MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE BEHAVIOR, WE ALL HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO START THE CONVERSATION AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THE SIGNS OF ABUSE FOR THE FAMILY, FRIENDS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO MAY BE EXPERIENCING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND ISOLATION.

THEREFORE, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF NUECES COUNTY JOINS THE PURPLE DOOR IN ENCOURAGING THE COASTAL TO LOSE THE RIBBON. THIS OCTOBER BECAUSE PREVENTION IS ACTION. WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO REACH OUT TO THE PURPLE DOOR OR VISIT THE NATIONAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HOTLINE AND THE NATIONAL NETWORK TO END DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WEB SITES FOR RESOURCES ON DIGITSAL ADVOCACY, FOLLOW THE PURPLE DOOR ON FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM AT PURPLE DOOR TX. FOR MORE WAYS TO GET INVOLVED.

NOW, THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF NUECES COUNTY DOES FORMALLY DESIGNATE THE MONTH OF OCTOBER 2021 AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS AND

PREVENTION MONTH. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

I THINK I HEARD IT. >> LADIES WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU MAKE COMMENTS. WE WOULD BE HONORED TO PRESENT

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THIS RESOLUTION I SUPPOSED IT WAS LAST WEEK ON WEDNESDAY WHEN WE HAD A FULL HOUSE DOWN IN THE JURY ROOM HOW WE CAN MAKE TRANSFORMATIONAL CHANGE WITH THE FELLOW NON-PROFITS WORKING WITH THE GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES. IT STRUCK A CORD.

OUR COMMUNITY IS SUFFERING EVEN IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

THE TOLL ON A COMMUNITY WHEN HEALTH HEALTH IS EXACERBATED.

THE NUM NUMBERS HAVE GONE UP WITH NUMBERS THAT WERE NOT GOOD TO BEGIN WITH. WE COULD NOT FUND RAISE AND SHARE THAT WE CAN STOP THIS. IT IS DESERVED FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO I THINK YOU WILL AGREE, PRAISE IS WONDERFUL.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE LIFT ONE ANOTHER UP TO GO ON.

, WE HAVE ONE MORE FORUM COMING UP AND USE TURNS OUT THAT TEXAS SAID THEY WOULD LOSE A BUNCH OF MONEY.

THEY MADE A BUNCH OF MONEY DOING COVID.

AND REVEALED BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO TELL THEM HOW HE CAN THE STATE CAN. THE AWARENESS IS ONE DAY.

, WE HAVE TO MAKE TRIEDS AFTER POLICE WEEK.

RIGHT. >> THEY'RE IN IT.

ON THE FRONT LINE. THEY SEE IT.

AN SO IS KNOCKING ON THAT DOOR AND THE THEY APPLAUD THE WORK AND WE'RE IN THIS TOGETHER. WHO WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE THE RESOLUTION AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS AS WELL.

, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THE COURT TO LET US COME IN AND REMIND THE COMMUNITY HAPPENING.

ADVOCATES AND AND WHAT THAT THROUGH COVID THEY NEED THE HELP. AND THE HOPE IS THAT THROUGH THE FAMILY MEMBERS CAN REACH OUT AND THEY WILL FEEL EMPOWERED TO REACH OUT TO US. AND HERE AND JUST ENHANCING AND IT HAS RISEN. THAT'S A TOOL THAT PERPETRATORS USE TO KEEP THE VICTIM ISOLATED. AND JUST SAY A COUPLE OF WORDS,

WILL YOU SHARE THE NUMBER. >> WE CAN BE REACHED THROUGH THE PURPLE A 361-881-8888 OR 800-580-4786.

AND THAT KEEPS THE COMMUNITY SAFE.

IF WE CAN FOCUS ON PREVENTION WORK AS A PROCLAMATION STATED.

WE CAN GET IN AND START TALKING TO YOUTH AND TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT INTIMATE PARTNER WHEN IT IS STARTING, JUST BEFORE IT IS STARTING AND THINGS LIKE RESPECT AND GENDER EQUALITY AND WHAT THE LS LOOK LIKE AND REINFORCE THE POSITIVE COMPONENTSMENT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE INFORMS AT A LATER DATE. THAT'S GOING TO EASE THING IN THE SYSTEM. LAW ENFORCEMENTS AND THAT'S WHAT OUR GOAL IS. AND WE LOOK AT THE COMMISSION AND THE COLLABORATION IS ESSENTIAL TO THE WORK WE DO.

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OUR AGENCY WE HAVE 47 STAFF MEMBERS AND 12 A 12-COUNTY AREA HERE IN THE AREA BUT OFFICES AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS NOT ONLY HAVE SHELTER BUT ONE OF THE AGENCIES PUT OURSELVES OUT OF BUSINESS AND NOT TO EXIST. WE SEE THE CORRELATION AND OUR PARTNERS TO EASE THE THINGS THROUGH THE SYSTEM.

WE LOOK FORWARD. >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR PREVENTION.

I WILL ECHO THE HOBE THAT ONE DAY WE WILL NOT NEED THIS ACKNOWLEDGMENT. IT IS A CRITICAL NEED AND BEING THE COURT THAT SEES THE MOST DOMESTIC VIOLENCEKY TELL YOU THAT IT HAS RISEN NOT ONLY THE NUMBERS BUT IN THE DEGREE OF VIOLENCE AND WITH MANY CHILDREN AT LEAST LAST YEAR BEING ON A VIRTUAL SCHOOLING SCHEDULE. WE HAVE HAD MANY CHILDREN WHO WATCHED MUCH OF THAT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HAPPEN IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES. AS WE KNOW CHILDREN LEARN NOT FROM WHAT THEY'RE BEING TOLD BUT WHAT THEY ARE WATCHING.

PRIOR TO COVID, ONE OF MY FAVORITE PARTS OF THE JOB WAS TO GO INTO THE SCHOOLS AND TO HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH THE KIDS ABOUT WHAT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS.

THAT IT'S NOT JUST MAYBE PUNCHES AND KICKING BUT STARTS DIFFERENTLY. AND DURING THAT DIALOGUE WE HAD SO MANY OUTCRIES THAT I WAS NOT PREPARED FOR.

AND OUTCRIES WERE COMING NOTE ONLY FROM THE CHILDREN BUT FROM THE TEACHERS AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO BRING THE COUNSELORS AND THE DETECTIVES FROM THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

NOW THE SCHOOLS HAVE NOT CLEARED AS GOING BACK TO TALK TO THE KIDS. I LOOK FORWARD TO MAYBE IN A FEW MONTHS GOING BACK AND MAKING TIME AND MAKING IT A PRIORITY. BUT UNTIL WE REACH EVERY PERSON, UNTIL WE REACH THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS NOT LIMITED TO A CERTAIN ZIP CODE AND DEMOGRAPHIC AND ETHNICITY. NOTHING WILL BE CHANGING SO I APPRECIATE THE COURT GIVING US THE TIME AND THE RECOGNITION OF THE PUBLIC I LEAK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EVERYONE UNTIL

SUCH TIME IT IS NOT AN ISSUE. >> I WAS TRYING TO FIND IT HERE. SHARA RODRIGUEZ.

SHE IS A GREAT ADVOCATE FOR US, I WANTED TO SEE IF I COULD FIND OUT. THE COURT MADE AN INVESTMENT IN MAKING SURE WE HAVE COORDINATORS.

THAT'S A WAY TO HELP AND. YOU NEED TO BE RECOGNIZED.

IT IS NOT AND WHAT I'M TALKING GIVE AWARENESS WHAT IT IS WE'RE DOING HERE. THAT'SER WITH IT PLAY AS ROLE.

AND THEY ARE HEARD AND HERE TO SUPPORT THEM.

I HAVE A RESOLUTION A COPY THAT WAS READ.

AND A PHOTO IF WOULD YOU LIKE ALL THOSE AND PASSING THE RESOLUTION SAY AYE. AYE.

IF YOU COME FORWARD. >> AND SINCE THERE ARE SIX OF YOU AND 7 MAYBE CAN YOU COME HERE.

[1. Discuss and consider approval of Second Supplemental Agreement with Steve Bonner for purposes of developing an Intergovernmental Support Agreement (IGSA) with Naval Air Station Corpus Christi to support energy resilience and job growth on the base.]

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>>> WE GO IN FOR THE GENERAL INFORMATION REPORTS BUT I RECEIVED A REQUEST THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HONOR.

LET ME JUST ONE MOMENT ON A REGULAR SAID AND STEVE BONER WHO REPRESENTS HAS A MEETING IN DC.

THEY ARE AN HOUR LATER AND -- LATER THAN WE ARE.

HE NEEDS TO GET MOVING. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER ONE AND APPROVAL OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH STEVE BONNER FOR THE BURPS IT IS DEVELOPING THE SUPPORT RESILIENCE ON THE BASE. AND WE ARE GETTING REALLY CLOSE TO THAT OCTOBER DAY WHERE WE DO SIGN OUR DOCUMENTS WITH THE NAVY AND WITH US IS THIS MORNING IS STEVE BONNER.

AND I DON'T KNOW, STEVE, IF YOU ARE PREPARED BUT WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE US JUST A SUPER QUICK BUT EXECUTIVE BRIEF ON WHERE WE ARE AND HOW WE ARE FARING WITH JACKSONVILLE AND THE NAVY.

>> I HOPE THAT YOU CAN HEAR ME OKAY.

>> YES, SIR. >> COMING TO YOU FROM MY HOTEL ROOM DOWN THE STREET FROM THE PENTAGON.

WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS DESPITE DE DELAYS BY THE BUREAUIC REVIEWS. AND WE AND THE DOCUMENT IGSA DOCUMENT A WEEK AGO. IT IS BACK IN THE HANDSCH THE NAVY RIGHT NOW FOR REVIEW AND HOLDING A WORK GROUP NEXT WEEK. WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO FINALIZE SO IT CAN COME BACK TO YOU IN OCTOBER FOR APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT AND THEN WE CAN SET UP A SIGNING CEREMONY WITH THE CAPTAIN JASON. AND THIS IGSA IS FOR WATER UTILITY INSTALLATION AND MAINTENANCE T IS A PILOT.

AND WITH THE NAVAL AIR STATION CORPUS CHRISTI.

THE PUBLIC WORKS OFFICER ARE VERY, VERY INTERESTED IN DOING MORE BUT THIS WILL BE THE VERY FIRST INTERGOVERNMENTAL SUPPORT AGREEMENT THAT ANY BASE IN THE SOUTHWEST REGION OF THE NAVY WILL HAVE ENTERED INTO SO THE NAVY WOULD LIKE TO DO A PILOT APPROACH AND THEN BEGIN TALKING ABOUT THE BIGGER NEEDS WHICH OF COURSE ARE ENERGY RESILIENCE AND MISSION RESILIENCE AS SUPPORTED BY ALL THE UTILITIES.

YOU WILL RECALL, WHEN WE BRIEFED THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF THIS PACKAGE WATER UTILITY AGREEMENT, WE ARE ESTIMATING ABOUT $154,000 A YEAR IN POSITIVE MICK BENEFITS FOR NUECES COUNTY. THAT INCLUDES NOT ONLY RECOVERY OF THE DIRECT AND INDIRECT COSTS AND ADMINISTRATIVE FEE BUT THAT GENERATES NEW JOBS AND BUSINESS FOR LOCAL SMALL BUSINESS. WHAT WE WILL DO IN THE NEXT YEAR IS TO COMPLETE THE AGREEMENT AND MOVIE ON TO THE BIGGER CHALLENGE AND THE BROADER AGREEMENT THAT WILL

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ALLOW MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF SERVICES TO BE PROVIDED TO THE NAVY AND WILL, HOPEFULLY, REACH OUT AND INCLUDE CLAYBURG AND OTHER ENTITIES AND PROVIDE SERVICES TO NAS KINGSMAN AS WELL. SO, AS THE JUDGE SAID WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS AND CLOSE TO THE FINISH LINE ON IN THE IGSA AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND YOUR STAFF.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, STEVE.

AND JUST AS A LITTLE BIT OF A REMINDER FOR EVERYONE.

YOU WILL REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD ON THIS THE LAST TWO YEARS AND INCLUDING GETTING LEGISLATION.

IT WAS ONE OF THE GOVERNOR'S TOP TEN FOR PREPAREDNESS.

PROTECTS 3 BILLION WORTH OF ASSETS THAT ARE THE NAVAL AIR STATION AND THE C-CAD. THIS REPRESENTS, FRANKLY, THE BEST WAY TO PRESERVE NOT ONLY OUR INCRUMBLE ECONOMIC ENGINE THAT IS THE MILITARY BASE BUT OUR OWN AD VALOREM WHEN WE RECOGNIZE HOW MANY PEOPLE WORK AT THE BASE AND IT IS JUST A TREMENDOUS ECONOMIC IMPACT AND SO DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO STRENGTHEN THAT BASE. STRENGTHEN THE MISSION AND PROTECTS FROM BUDGET CUTS. GOD FORBID A BASE REALIGNMENT.

THIS IS WHY WE DO IT BUT AS I SAID CHERRY ON TOP WHEN YOU CAN CREATE REVENUE FOR NUECES COUNTY WHICH IGSAS CAN DO.

FOR THOSE AND STEVE IS READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I WOULD SEEK A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SECOND SUPPLEMENTAL

AGREEMENT. >> AND IS THIS A -- WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE. NUK NUK.

>> WHAT IT IS. >> DO YOU WANT TO OUTLINE THE

FUNDING SOURCE. >> IT RUNS THROUGH

SEPTEMBER 2022. >> SO IT IS ONE YEAR AND IT WAS PART OF THE BUDGET AND WE ARE, LIKE I SAID, VERY, VERY CLOSE.

>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION? >> OF COURSE.

>> STEVE, I HAVE YOUR ATTACHMENT, COULD YOU JUST, WE TALK OF ACRONYMS HERE. DESCRIBE FOR THOSE WATCHING I KNOW ARE YOU TRYING TO BE QUICK AND, GIVE A LITTLE HISTORICAL BACKGROUND ON THE IGSAS HOW IT WORK AS LITTLE BIT AND WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS. KY NOT ARTICULATE.

>> HAPPY TO DO SO. SO THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL SUPPORT AGREEMENTS IGS USA A RELATIVELY NEW TYPE OF AGREEMENT VEHICLE AND BETWEEN MILITARY BASES AND STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THIS AUTHORITY WAS SUPPORT BY CONGRESS AND AMENDED A COUPLE OF TIMES INCLUDING THIS YEAR.

THIS ALLOWS FOR SOLE COURSE AGREEMENTS BETWEEN BASES AND STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITIES OR FOR THOSE STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITIES TO PROVIDE GOODS AND SERVICES TO THE MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AT THE RATES THAT YOU ALL PAY AS OPPOSED TO THE RATES THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PAYS.

THE REASON IT IS AN ADVANTAGE. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS THE ACQUISITIONS THAT ADD COST TO ACQUIRING GOOD AND SERVICES FOR THE MILITARY BASES. JUST ON THAT WATER UTILITY PROJECT ALONE THE NAVY PAYS 685 A LINEAR FOOT FOR PUTTING 12-INCH WATER PIPE IN THE GROUND.

AND NUECES COUNTY PAYS ABOUT $50 FORS SAME PIPE IN THE GROUND. AND TAXPAYERS ALONE WE CAN SEE THE BENEFIT. AND THE AGREEMENTS WAIVE THE FEDERAL ACQUISITION REQUIREMENTS SO FOR A PERIOD OF TEN YEARS AND THEY ALLOW FOR, AS I SAID, THE RECOVERY OF ALL COSTS AND ADMINISTRATIVE FEES. IS THAT ENOUGH FOR YOU, SIR.

OR MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND THE COUNTRY.

>> THAT'S A GOOD GENERALIZATION N REGARDS TO THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY, KIND OF GIVE YOUR TAKE ON THE ADVANTAGES FINANCIALLY FOR NUECES COUNTY RESIDENTS AND TAXPAYERS TO

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JUSTIFY WHY WE'RE PAYING THIS FEE AT THIS POINT.

I UNDERSTAND, YOU WILL BE RECOVERING COSTS.

THE AGREEMENT WILL ALLOW FOR YOU ALL TO SUBCONTRACT OUT TO A BUSINESS OR THROUGH YOUR BU BUBUYING STRUCTURE TO HAVE A COMPANY GO ON A NAVAL BASE AND INCALL WATER PIPE.

YOU WILL RECOVER THE COST OF THE CONTRACT ALL OF THE INDIRECT COSTS OF ADMINISTERING THAT CONTRACT AND YOU KNOW THE COSTS INCURRING THE COMMISSION AREA COURT PER YOUR COST ALLOCATION PLAIN AND UMD RULES.

THERE WILL BE A 7% IN TERMS OF DOLLARS AND CENTS DIRECTLY TO ON A SINGLE PROJECT. YOU WILL BE LOOKING AT 14 OR $15,000 INMENT AND THE NAVY IS ANTICIPATING DOING AS MANY AS 6

TO 10,. >> IN NUECES COUNTY, ON THE CAGES I JUST IN TERMS AND NUECES COUNTY AND THROUGH THIS AGREEMENT AND NUECES COUNTY AND THE NAVY AND DO MORE AND THE UTILITIES AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO FOR AND MAINTAINING YOUR OWN FACILITIES. IF YOU DO THAT AT VOLUME OVER TIME AND GET TO THE POINT AND ARE YOU PRODUCING THE REVENUE THAT MONTEREY DOES IN SUPPORTING THE PRESIDIO OF MONTEREY AND FOR THE ARMY AND THE INSTITUTE AND GENERATE A MILLION A YEAR IN THE REVENUE AND FOR THE CITY OF MONTEREY.

>> AND YOU SAY THEY GO IN THEY TO THE MANAGEMENT ON THE BASE, WE CAN DO IT CHEAPER WITH THIS IN PLACE BUT WE CAN PUT FORTH AN ADMINISTRATIONIVE COST ON TOP OF IT THAT WILL PROVIDE US THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE STREAM, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE STREAM COCOME IN?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> SO IF WE DO THIS NOW WITHOUT THE AGREEMENT IN PLACE, WE WANT TO SUPPORT THE BASES.

IF WE DO THEM WE HAVE TO DO THEM AT THE CONTRACT PRICE EXTRA EXTRA THE NAVY HAS TO PAY?

>> NO THIS IS THE PRICE YOU PAY.

>> THE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE AGREEMENT IT IS 650 LINK YAR FOOD AND WAR IT COSTS US THIS ERASES THAT EXTREMELY HIGH COST THAT HAS TO BE DONE IF THEY DO THAT.

>> THAT LOWERS THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS FOR THE HEAVY IN

YOUR COMMUNITY. >> GOT YOU WHICH MAKES THE COMMUNITY MORE COMPETITIVE OR JOB GROWTH AND AS THE JUDGE MENTIONED IN THE WORSE CASE, AND BASE REALIGNMENT.

ARE YOU INCREASING THE VALUE OF THE BASE.

>> I WILL NOT GO INTO THE ABSURDITY WHAT YOU QUOTED IT DOES NOT SURPRISE ME. THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. YOU.

>> WE PAY 50-DOLLAR AS LINEAR FOOT BECAUSE THE COUNTY DOES

THEIR OWN WORK? >> NO, SIR.

THAT'S BASED OFF THE LAST BIG WATER UTILITY PROJECT THAT YOU ALL DID IN SEVERAL YEARS AGO WITH A FACTOR PUT IN TO BRING IT UP TO DATE. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU PAY THE CONTRACTOR ON A PROJECT SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

>> AND ARE ALL THE CONTRACTORS ON BOARD THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE WHAT THEY CHARGE THE COUNTY.

THEY KNOW THEY'RE DOING WORK IN A PREMISE SO THEY WILL MAYBE

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CHARGE THE REGULAR PRICE? >> I MEAN --

>> SO, SINCE THEY DO NOT HAVE TO COMPLY.

THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH THE NUECES COUNTY PURCHASING ORDINANCES. THEY SHOULD CHARGE YOU WHAT THEY NORMALLY WOULD CHARGE NUECES COUNTY, THEY SHOULD BUT

THEY DON'T HAVE TO, RIGHT? >> WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE TO.

THEY CAN BID IT THAT WAY. THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT THE STATE COOPERATIVE PURCHASING VEHICLE THEY ARE SET IN NEGOTIATIONS AND THEY ARE A BLANKET AGREEMENT AND MONITORING TYPE OF CONTRACT THAT'S NEGOTIATED STATEWIDE. SO THOSE COSTS ARE FIXED THERE.

>> THE STATE BUY BOARD. >> WE HAVE GONE AHEAD THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND A HALF OF WORKING WITH OUR WORKING GROUP WE VETTED THOSE TO MAKE SURE THAT THING WOULD BE SO.

IN OTHER WORDS. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE EXERCISE OF OUR HYPOTHETICAL WHICH HAPPENS TO BE OUR REAL WORLD EXAMPLE TO MAKE SURE THAT INDEED WE COULD PROCURE, BY THE WAY OUR PROCUREMENTS THEY ARE SET FORTH BY THE STATE YOU HAVE TEXAS. AND THE ABILITY TO USE THOSE BUY BOARD CONTRACTS OR ALLIED STATES.

WHATEVER THE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH AS WELL. BUT I THINK THAT, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE NICE THING IS THAT THE NAVY WANTS IT.

THE COMMUNITY WILL BENEFIT FROM IT.

THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS SEEN EXAMPLES AND MOST LIKELY THE ONE THAT PEOPLE REMEMBER WERE THOSE COMING OUT OF THEIR ACCOUNT AND ACOG AND THEN AT OUR SUMMIT, STEVE IT WAS THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE MILITARY COMMUNITY CAUCUS IS GET IGSAS IN PLACE IT HELPS YOU AND THE COMMUNITY BUT IMPORTANTLY IT

HELPS THE BASE STAY STRONG. >> AN IGSA BETWEEN EL PASO WATER UTILITIES AND FORT BLISS IS ON THE COMMANDER'S DESK AS WE SPEAK. GENERATING 5 MILLION-DOLLAR AS

YEAR IN REVENUE. >> YOU MENTION A PROJECT THAT

WE DID, THAT WAS. >> YES.

>> YOU SAID 350 COLLAR -- $50 THAT WAS SIX YEARS AGO, YOU DON'T THINK THEY WILL RAISE THE PRICE OF THAT.

>> YOU PAID LESS THAN THAT FIVE YEARS AGO.

THAT 50-DOLLAR FIGURE COMES FROM APPLYING AN INFLATION

FACTOR. >> SO WE HAVE GONE AHEAD THROUGH THE WORKING GROUP AND ADJUSTED FOR THE PRICING?

>> I WORKED WITH THE COUNTY OUTSIDE CPA.

>> LET'S JUST PRETEND. STEVE THAT IT DOUBLED AND $100 EVEN IF WE ARE WAY, WAY OFF AND THE PRICE DOUBLED THE NAVY IS CHEERING. THEY WILL SAFE THE.

>> I DON'T WANT THE COUNTY HOLDING THE BAG.

IT MAY BE 100 OR 200. IS THERE A PLAN WE'LL STOLE THIS PROCESS THAT WE HAVE NOT, I HAVE NOT SEEN ONE.

DO YOU HAVE A PLAN THAT SAYS THIS IS WHAT IT WILL CHARGE AND DO WE DEVELOPED THE AGREEMENT. THE INTER GOVERNMENTAL SUPPORT AGREEMENT BUT A DOCUMENT, OUR STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES STAFF HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT WITH THE NAVAL AIR STATION AND WE HAVE OUTLINED THE PROCESS FROM THE START TO THE

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END AND HOW THE PURCHASING DIRECTOR WILL COME TO YOU ALL FOR REVIEW AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE, TOO, THAT IF FOR WHATEVER REASON THAT I CANNOT POSSIBLY IMAGINE, ARE YOU NOT ABLE TO -- TO FULFILL A ORDER WOULD YOU NOT HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT TASK ORDER PROVIDER OF WATER UTILITY ON THE BASE.

THIS IS SUCCESS THAT GIVES THE NAVY A NEW OPTION.

WHAT DO WE NEED TO HAVE WE NEED TO TO GET A CONTRACT WITH THE BASE? WE HAVE PROCEDURES AND, YOU WANT TO AS YOU GROW IN VOLUME THE SAME WAY THAT YOU WANT TO GROW IN A BUSINESS. YOU KNOW YOU GROW IN VOLUME AND ADMINISTER AND YOU NEED TO HIRE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A MANAGEMENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YOU -- YOU LOOK AT YOUR VARIOUS OPTIONS FOR DO THAT.

YOU MAY WANT TO CONTRACT THAT OUT.

YOU MAY WANT TO HIRE YOU KNOW NEW ORGANIC STAFF.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. >> YOU SAID THE KEY WORD.

>> A KEY WORD. THAT'S ONE THING I'M LOOKING AT. I KNOW OUR STAFF IS THIN AS IT IS. SO THAT'S ALL I WAS ASKING ABOUT A WORKFORCE. WE'RE GOING TO HIRE MORE PEOPLE TO WORK FOR THE COUNTY OR TO SUBCONTRACT AND I SEE THAT EASIER THAN ANYTHING ELSE. WITH THE CONTRACTOR THAT MAY BE A LIABILITY AT THE BASE. AND WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR

THAT? >> RIGHT, SO, STEVE MAYBE CAN YOU EXPLAIN SO -- THE PURPOSE OF THIS THINK AGREEMENT IS TO CONTINUE THE WORK TO BRING FORTH THE DOCUMENTS THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED FINAL DOCUMENTS. BUT IN THE PROCESS.

>> CAN I HAVE HIM ANSWER THE QUESTION.

>> CAN YOU ANSWER THAT. >> EXCUSE ME.

>> I'M GOING TO HAVE HIM DO THAT.

>> YOU ASKED A QUESTION. DO NOT BE RUDE.

I'LL ANSWER A LITTLE BIT THEN I'M GOING TO PITCH TO STEVE WHAT I WANT TO YOU KNOW IS THAT THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S CONTRACT IS TO CONTINUE THE SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH MR. BONNER SO HE CAN BRING FORTH THE FINAL PLAN.

THE FINAL PLAN DOES CONTEMPLATE A PASS THROUGH.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A STAFF WHEN HE SAID THE COUNTY STAFF CAN HANDLE IT BECAUSE IN THE PAST THRU OUR PROCUREMENT WILL ISSUE A PROCUREMENT WHEN IT WAS ISSUED.

>> I'M LETTING YOU KNOW THE CONCEPT A PASS THROUGH ON A BUY BOARD AND A CONTRACTOR. WE'RE AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL.

>> I WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO EXPLAIN THAT.

HE'S THE CONSULTANT. >> THAT'S FINE.

>> I REALIZE. >> YES.

>> MAY I MAY TO CARE FIE. >> WE'RE DISCUSS AND APPROVAL OF THE SECOND SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH MR. BONNER.

IT'S NOT TO APPROVE THE IGSA. >> AND SO.

>> WE'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT WE'RE GETTING FROM MR. BONNER, WOULDN'T THAT BE INCLUDED.

>> IF I VOTE IT IS SOMETHING TO LIVE WITH.

>> STEVE CAN YOU TRY TO HELP A LITTLE BIT HERE TO ALLAY THE FEAR THIS FIRST AGREEMENT IS GOING TO SOMEHOW MAKE US HIRE STAFF, THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE AND A PROJECT MANAGER TO PROJECT A PROMISE MANAGER PASSED THROUGH TO THE NAVY.

WOULD YOU CLARIFY THAT. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> SO, TO BEGIN WITH, COMMISSIONER, THE PROJECTS ARE NOT LARGE PROJECTS. THE MODEL PROJECT THAT THE NAVY

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ASKED US TO LOOK AT INVOLVED LESS THAN 100 LINE YAR FEET OF PIPE. SO THIS IS A -- THIS IS A VERY SMALL-SCALE PROJECT. THE NAVY WILL BUILD UP WHERE THEY COME WITH MORE SMALL PROJECTS NOT BIG MAJOR PROJECTS THAT WILL REQUIRE INTENSE WITHIN THE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES. WE HAVE OUTLINED WORK THAT WILL BE DONE BY MULTIPLE DIFFERENT FOLKS BUT DONE THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT OF AN OUTSIDE CONTRACTOR TO HELP WITH PROJECT MANAGEMENT QUALITY ASSURANCE AND CONTROL.

AGAIN ALL OF THOSE COSTS WOULD BE A FULLY REIMBURSED BY THE U.S. NAVY P AND THIS IN ESTENSE WORKS VERY SIMILARLY TO HOW A STANDARD GRANT WOULD WORK IN TERMS OF RECOVERING YOUR COSTS AND INDIRECT COSTS BUT THEN IT HAS THE AND BENEFIT OF AN EXTRA 7% ADMINISTRATIVE FEE. AND DOES THAT ANSWER THE

QUESTION, SIR? >> YES, SIR.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT I THINK THAT THE -- TO HAVE THE TOOL HAVE THE TOOL NOT WORRY ABOUT BEFORE YOU CAN DO ANYTHING, WE DON'T HAVE IT IN PLACE WE CAN NOTE MOVE FORWARD. THAT WILL BE SOON THEN WE AS A COURT CAN DECIDE THAT THE POINT WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO SERVICE IT CONTRACT IT OUT OR A PROGRAM MANAGER, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. MY CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THIS IS BECAUSE I KNOW THEY FEEL THE SAME WAY AND ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS TAKE IT AND THE LEGALITY AND KEEP OUR BASES HERE AND HAPPY I THINK T IS A SPECIFIC FORM OF I MAY NOT FEEL THAT WAY ABOUT COMING BEFORE US TODAY.

THIS ONE I FEEL STRONGLY IS NEEDED AND WHICH ME AND WE NEED TO DO IT. I THINK THAT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN PAY AS CHUCK OF THIS TO.

I THINK SOMEBODY ELSE IS PAYING, IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES TO DO THIS MOTHER, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

EITHER WAY THIS IS NOT A LARGE AMOUNT IN MY OPINION TO KEEP

OUR BASES HEALTHY AND HAPPY. >> I'M N I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE LOOK FORWARD TO IT AND PASS IT.

>> I'LL SECOND AND. SOME DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME.

>> , WE HAD A DETAILED PRESENTATION WHEN STEVE CAME BEFORE US. SO I SEE THAT PART OF THIS.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AND ANY CONTRACTS FOR THIS ONE OR JUST WE FORGET AND NEW MEMBERS AND THE STAFF THAT WE'LL HAVE. THAT'S IMPORTANT TO HELP US OUT SO WE CAN KIND OF READ THROUGH IT.

>> FOR ME THIS COMES DOWN TO THE CONNECTION AND THE PROTECTION THAT WE HAVE AS A COMMUNITY.

AND THAT IS WHY THE JUDGE THAT YOU BROUGHT THIS BEFORE THE COURT STEVE IS THERE AND GOING TO THE PENTAGON AND ENSURE WE

ARE STRONG AND CONNECTED. >> HE YOU GAVE US AN EXAMPLE OF MONTEREY THERE IN CALIFORNIA, AND AND ON TOP OF COVERING THE COST TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE TO THE BASE OUT THERE.

AND THE THEY MADE A PROFIT AND EVERYONE WAS FOR THE BETTER.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

AND WE'LL GET TO THAT POINT THIS IS SO STEVE CAN GIVE US A

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CHANCE TO CONTINUE THAT WORK AND SO.

I SUPPORT THAT AND, STEVE, I KNOW YOU HEAR THE QUESTIONS AND BE PREPARED FOR THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT.

BUT I SUPPORT THIS AS WELL. IF I GET STEVE TO CLARIFY.

OTHER PROJECTS. CAN YOU CLARIFY WHEN THIS IS SIGNED WHAT THE ROLE WILL BE AGAIN AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER

AND GOING FROM THERE. >> AND SO, WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT YOU DO. THAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE AMENDMENT WILL BE TO BRING THE PROJECT HOME TO THEN WORK WITH THE STAFF TO HELP THEM WITH THE INITIAL IMPLEMENTATION AND WORK WITH THE NAVY AND USED TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL.

AND SOME ADVICE ON IMPLEMENTATION.

AND WORKING WITH THE WORKING GROUP TO GENERATE.

OKAY. WHAT IS THE NEXT IDEA.

AND THE BIG IDEA THAT YOU ALL ORIGINALLY HIRED MEASURE FOR ENERGY RESULTS. AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT.

AND TO DO MORE. AND THEN FINALLY THE FINAL BIT OF SCOPE WILL BE PROVIDING SOME ADVISE AND THE BENEFIT OF MY KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE ABOUT HOW TO DEAL WITH A SENIOR NAVY LEADERSHIP TO KEEP THE SUPPORT THERE AND FOR DOING MORE OF THESE TYPES OF AGREEMENTS, THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING AND MEETING WITH THE STAYS AND FROM THE HEAVY OR ENERGY I INSTALLATIONS. I WILL BE MEETING WITH THE COUNTERPARTS IN THE ARMY AND TALKING ABOUT HOW PARTICIPATE THROUGH THE NAVY IN THE AGREEMENT.

AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD TODAY. THAT MEANS THAT THE HEAVY WANTS TO LOOK AT OTHERAGREEMENTS AND ENERGY EFFICIENCIES OR ANYTHING ELSE I'M INTERESTED IN HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS AND DO WHATEVER WE CAN AND WHATEVER AREA WE CAN TO REDUCE THE COST OF THEM DOING BUSINESS IN NUECES COUNTY SO IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO WANT TO LEAVE AND SOMEONE TO SAY THIS IS NOT A SUPER SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITY AND A COST EFFICIENT COMMUNITY. THAT'S IMPORTANT AND, AGAIN, I THINK WHEN YOU COME BACK, ONCE WE GET THIS DONE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE POTENTIAL PROJECTIONS ON THE REVENUE STREAMS LIKE HOW ON A PROJECT THAT THEY WANT TO DO.

I THINK THAT - YOU KNOW WE ARE LOOKING FOR REVENUE STREAMS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONCE THAT WE KNOW THAT THAT IS A GOING TO BE A HERE IS THE PROJECT WE'RE DOING THAT'S 100% GOING TO BE DONE. BRING THAT BACK SO WE CAN SHOW THE WORLD. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A REVENUE STREAM ON TOP OF THIS AND BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE REPRESENTED TODAY.

THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE GOING FORWARD WHEN YOU

PROVIDE US REPORTS AS WELL. >> YES, SIR.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> STEVE ARE YOU SAYING THE NAVY, THE NAVY DEPENDS ON US GIVEN THIS CONTRACT SO IT CAN

STAY HERE IN CORPUS CHRISTI? >> NO, SIR WHAT THE CONTRACT WILL DO WILL BE REDUCE THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS FOR THE

NAVY. >> THAT I UNDERSTAND.

BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THE NAVY WILL LEAVE IF WE DON'T, YOU KNOLL COME UP WITH THE CONTRACT.

, WE'RE SAYING THAT IN TERMS OF AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THIS HAS TWO DIFFERENT POTENTIAL BENEFITS FOR YOU.

ONE BY LOWERING THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS YOU ARE MAKING THE BASE MORE ATTRACTIVE OR ADDITIONAL -- FOR ADDITIONAL MISSIONS AND GROWTH. FOR MORE JOBS TO COME IN.

AND BUT IN THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO THAT THE CONGRESS AUTHORIZES ANOTHER BASE REALIGNMENT AND CLOSURE.

LET'S BE CLEAR WE HAVE NO INDICATION THEY WILL DO THAT BUT I ATTENDED MEETINGS THIS WEEK WITH THE AIR FORCE WHERE YOU THE SECRETARY STOOD HERE AND SAID.

I NEED TO BE ABLE TO CLOSE MORE BASES SO THAT THE -- THE

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MILITARY SERVICES ARE INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT THAT IN THE FUTURE. IF THEY ASK THAT AND LOWERING THE COST OF DOG BUSINESS IT IS MORE COMPETITIVE AGAINST OTHER BASES. IF WE SEE ONCE THEY DECIDE IT WILL LEAVE A PLACE THEY LEAVE. THAT DOES NOT MATTER WHO DOES WHAT. IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT THE PRIVATE CONTRACTORS CAN TAKE UP THE CONTRACT.

HAS IT BEEN OFFERED TO THEM. I LOOK AT THE -- AT THE LIABILITY PART ON OUR PART. AND I HAVE DEALT WITH COMPANIES I HAVE NOT BEEN HAPPY WITH THEM.

GOING THROUGH. >> UNDERSTAND WHEN IT COMES TO YOU THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS HAD SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS ABOUT LIABILITY THAT YOU HAVE.

AND WE SPENT. >> AND WORKING ON LANGUAGE.

AND TO ADDRESS THE LIABILITY CONCERNS.

AND IN TERMS OF THAT I ENCOURAGE YOU AS WE BRING THE AGREEMENT TO YOU. AND AND DISCUSS ANY OF THOSE

CONCERNS. >> AGAIN, BRING THIS UP AND HOW LONG. SIR.

>> I WILL SAY TYNER ARTICULATED THAT.

WILL YOU REPEAT THAT FOR THE COMMISSIONER THE ONE-YEAR

CONTRACT. >> $2283 PER MONTH AND I KNOW

THAT IT IS A 1285 FUNDED. >> I'LL SAVE STEVE THE EMBARRASSMENT OF TOOTING HIS OWN HORN HE IS NOT ONLY AN EXPERT IN THE FIELD BUT HE WAS ONE OF THE WRITERS OR SCRIVNERS OF THE LEGISLATION THAT PROVIDED FOR ISGA WHEN HE WORKED AT THE PENTAGON. SEASON WHO WE ALL GO TO IN THE NATION - IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, IT GOVERNOR'S MILITARY PREPAREDNESS COMMISSION OF WHOM WE HAVE GARY BRADFORD, WHO REPRESENTS US, KEITH GRAFF WHO REPRESENTS THE GOVERNOR, STEVE IS DEFINITELY THE EXPERT IN THE ROOM AND IT IS A MYRAD OF PROTOCOLS AND T IS A PROCESS YOU NEED AN EXPERT AND I WANT TO SAY THAT I REMEMBER, AS A LITTLE GIRL, WE WERE VERY MUCH ABOUT TO LOSE NAVY BASE CORPUS CHRISTI, WHEN WE WERE GOING TO LOSE SEA CAD MY UNCLE GOING TO WASHINGTON FILLED WITH A BRIEFCASE WITH THE NAMES OF EVERY PERSON THAT WORKED THERE. SO DON'T THINK FOR ONE SECOND THAT OUR MISSION IS TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE PEOPLE ON THE BASE ARE NOT PROTECTED BECAUSE IT IS.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A SOUTH TEXAS MILITARY TASKFORCE HERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND WHY THEY SUPPORT THIS.

THE CITY, BY THE WAY, HAS THE OPPORTUNITY UNDER THE STATUTE TO DO SO AS WELL. THIS WILL BE A MONEY MAKER FOR US AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE PROJECT WHEN IT COMES BUT THIS ITEM IS TO KEEP THE BALL MOVING IN A THE DIRECTION THAT WILL FIND US VERY CLOSE TO ASSIGNING -- A SIGNING CEREMONY

WITH THE CAPTAIN. >> I AGREE ON THE LIABILITY ISSUE AND THE ATTORNEY IS ENGAGED AND THE ATTORNEY I DON'T MEAN THIS OTHER IF YOU NEED HELP, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN THE NORMAL SCOPE AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT -- BECAUSE STEVE AND I DON'T KNOW IF I UNDERSTOOD THIS. COULD UNDER THE AGREEMENT IF THE COUNTY CHOSE, IF THE COUNTY CHOSE TO I THOUGHT YOU SAID IS THAT WITHIN THE CONFINES, THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID, WE DON'T

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WANT TO OVERSEE IT OURSELVES. I AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER GONZALES AND COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ IT IS A LIABILITY.

WE DON'T HAVE TO BE THE ONES TO DO IT BUT THE VEHICLE OF WHICH BUT WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE A DIME ON IT AND INCUR A LIABILITY WE COULD PASS THIS ON TO A GENERAL AND BE THE VEHICLE FOR THAT, IS THAT RIGHT OR SOME CAPACITY?

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> EVEN IF WE DON'T.

>> I'M SAYING WORSE CASE, WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE A DIME AND INCUR ANY LIABILITY THE EASY THING TO DO.

IF THIS IS IN PLACE GET A CONTRACTOR TO BE THE GENERAL AND THE GENERAL IS PONDED. THEY INCUR ALL THE LIABILITY AND THE COUNTY IS NOT LIABLE ON THIS.

THOSE ARE BIG DISTINCTIONS THAT I HEARD BUT ITST STRESS.

PUT STUFF ON THE RECORD. STEVE SAYS WE HAVE TO HAVE THE VEHICLE IN PLACE. THE LIABILITY IS A BIG-TIME CONCERN T IS BEING ADDRESSED. THAT'S GOT TO BE TIGHTENED UP.

AND THE FACT THAT WE CAN GET A GENERAL CONTRACTOR.

THEY ARE BONDED. I'M NOT SEEING THE DOWN SIDE YET. THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAIL.

>> AND YOUR SUGGESTION IS NOT ONLY A VALID ONE BUT A GOOD ONE THIS COURT APPROVED A YEAR AGO BRINGING IN THE EXPERT LAWYER IT IS KATIE SHOOTS, SHE IS A EXPERT IN THIS CONTRACT.

WHEN THE NEED ARISES ON LIABILITY.

SHE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH JENNY ON THIS.

WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT. AND EXTRA CONSIDERING AND DOTTING OF THE IS AND CROSSING OF THE T'S.

EL PASO AND SAN ANTONIO OUR GREAT COMMUNITIES AND OURSELVES HAVE ENGAGED IN THIS. MONTEREY STARTED THIS ALL AND THERE ARE OTHERS NOT FAR BEHIND, AND I JUST DON'T WANT THE CONTRACTOR COMING BACK TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS PEOPLE AND SAYING YOU NEED TO DO THIS, THEY ARE EXYOU INCLUDED.

WE'RE NOT THERE. >> IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA TO TALK ABOUT ITMENT THEY ARE EXCLUDED.

WE ALL BEGIN ON THE SAME PAGE. I AGREE.

IN THE INTEREST OF TIME I'M HAPPY TO HAVE YOU CONTACT STEVE. ONE THING.

WHEN YOU CAN YOU COME IN TOWN OFTEN MAKE TIME TO VISIT WITH THE COMMISSIONERS ONE ON ONE AGAIN AND AS THE ECONOMIC MAREZ SAID -- COMMISSIONER MAREZ SAID THE POWER POINT CAN BE SENT TO TYNER'S OFFICE AGAIN TO GIVE EVERYONE THE REFRESHER OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN OUT FOR A VISIT. THE WORLD WAR II STRUCTURE HAS TO GO AND BRING IN 2021. IS THE POTHOLES THE MOLD THE WATER LINES IT IS THE SIMPLE THINGS HURTING THE BASE: THOSE ARE THINGS WE CAN HELP WITH.

THAT'S WHY IGZA IS -- IGSA IS VALUABLE TO THE STATE.

AND WE'RE PROUD WITH THE CONTINUATION OF THE SECOND SUPPLEMENTAL W A MOTION AND A SECOND MAY I CALL FOR THE VOTE IF THERE IS NOTHING FURTHER. A ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF NUMBER 1 APPROVING THE AGREEMENT SAY AYE.

>> OKAY. PUTTING US BACK IN REGULAR ORDER AND SHERIFF I'M MINDFUL YOU HAVE DEPUTYS HERE.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADVANCE AN ITEMKY ADVANCE FOR YOU.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO. >> JUDGE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH

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FOR TAKING ME OUT OF ORDER I APPRECIATE IT; YES.

>> THANK YOU I HAVE MUCH. >>> I'M GOING TO DO THAT. IT

[1. Daniel Garza, Corrections Officer III, retiring after 37 years of service to Nueces County.]

IS THE NEXT CERTIFICATES OF RECOGNITION FALLS ON G AND AND THAT'S AN TORN TWO ITEMS. DANIEL GARZA HAS BEEN AN CORRECTIONS OFFICER. CALLED LEVEL 3 IS THAT CORRECT,

SHERIFF? >> HE IS RETIRING AFTER 37 YEARS OF SERVICE. THAT'S AS OLD AS I MANY.

I'M JOKING I'M WAY OLDER. WE'RE PROUD TO HAVE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY HERE JOINING US IN THE COURTROOM.

THE SHERIFF WOULD LIKE TO MAKE REMARKS.

WE WANT YOU TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

WE'RE HERE TO HONOR YOU AND TO CELEBRATE AND THE NEXT PART OF YOUR GOLDEN RETIREMENT. I HOPE YOU HAVE WONDERFUL PLANS IN STORE BUT, FIRST . WE HAVE TO PAY THANKS AND GIVE YOU GRATITUDE FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. >> SHERIFF, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. 37 YEARS IS A LONG TIME I WORK FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN 1981 AND HE STARTED ABOUT THAT TIME. AND SHORTLY AFTER THAT.

HE HAS WORKED FOR SIX, MAYBE SEVEN SHERIFFS 6789 I'M PRIVILEGED TO BE THE LAST HE WORKED FOR, I WILL NOT SAY MUCH. I WOULD LIKE SOME OF THE CAPTAINS. HE WORKED FOR SIX OR SEVEN BUT ONE CONSISTENT IN THAT 37 YEARS HAS BEEN HIS FAMILY.

AND CO-WORKERS. YOU HAVE AN OFFICER SHE WAS KNOWN AS THE COP'S WIFE. ALL OF HER LIFE THE COP'S DAUGHTER THAT'S THE POLICE FAMILY, THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT. THEY LOOK AT THE PUBLIC SERVANT. THEY LOOK AT THE FIRST RESPONDERS BUT THERE IS A SUPPORT GROUP THE FAMILY AND SO THANK YOU ALL. THIS YOUR CELEBRATION AND THE CO-WORKERS AND I WOULD LIKE THE CAPTAIN GUZMAN OR CO-WORKERS TO COME UP AND MAYBE TELL A STORY IF THAT IS SUITABLE.

>> AS LONG AS IT IS A GOOD ONE.

THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS HAS EXPIRED.

CCAPTAIN GORDON? >> JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS,

DANNY. >> I CAME TO WORK WITH THE SHERIFF AS A DEPUTY I WAS ASSIGNED TO THE JAIL.

WHEN I GOT ASSIGNED TO THE JAIL, I NEVER WORKED IN A JAIL I WORKED FOR CLAY BERG COUNTY. I CAME TO THE JAIL.

I THOUGHT WOW. THERE WAS MY FIRST SUPERVISOR, SERGEANT DANNY GARZA. HE SAW ME HE SAID WAIT A MINUTE, MAN. YOU NEED TO SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT. DANNY GARZA TOOK MYSELF BUT THREE GENERATIONS OF CORRECTIONS OFFICERS AND SLOWED THEM DOWN AND SHOWED THEM WHAT BEING A POLICE OFFICER WOULD BE AND A CORRECTIONAL OFFICER AND DEPUTY SHERIFF IS.

HOW TO DO YOUR JOB RIGHT, HOW TO CARE, THE HUMANITY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BARS. THE COUNTY IS LOSING AN ASSET AND A HUMANITARIAN IN DANNY. IT IS MY PLEASURE TO BE HIS SUBORD NANT TO WORK WITH HIM AND AROUND HIM.

IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR.

>> THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL. ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO COME

FORWARD AT THIS TIME? >> I'M A CAPTAIN WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I WOULD LIKE TO TELL DANNY I GREATLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE TIME IS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

I'M 37 SO YOU KNOW. AND.

>> CAN YOU SAY IT THEN. YOU'RE ALLOWED.

>> WHEN I STARTED YOU KNOW I MET DANNY.

HE HAS BEEN A GREAT HELP TO ME PERSONALLY.

AND AS WELL. AND HE HELPED GUIDE MEASURE LEARNING THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND WHAT NOT.

YOU KNOW HE'S A MENTOR AND DEDICATION AND HIS SACRIFICES THAT HE MADE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

I WANT TO TELL YOU CONGRATS AND APPRECIATE YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I'M NOT PREPARED FOR A SPEECH.

>> WE HAVE SOMEONE ELSE BEHIND YOU.

>> ONE MORE WORD. >> ONE MORE WORD.

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>> CONGRATS. >> I'M CAP CANE JUAN I WORKED FOR HIM, WITH HIM AND BECAME TRULY GOOD FRIENDS BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE'S. THERE ISLE IS COMICAL TO SAY ABOUT HIM. I DIDN'T KNOW HOE WAS.

DANNY GARZA. HE IS AT THE ANNEX.

THE TERM USED TO IDENTIFY HIM WAS I'M SAY IT, I HOPE THAT'S OKAY. YOU TAKE A LOOK THE LEFT HAND LOOK AT HIS WIFE. THIS IS THE WAY I IDENTIFIED WITH HIM. AND HIS LEADERSHIP EVERYTHING THAT THE CAPTAIN GORDON DESCRIBED HIM TO A T PERFECTLY. I WISH YOU LUCK AND YOUR NEW ENDEAVORS. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU TAUGHT THAT IS FROM THE HEART.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU; THEY SAY THAT A MAN'S FAMILY HAS TO LOVE HIM BUT HIS FRIENDS WILL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT HIM. THE TRUTH HAS BEEN TOLD TODAY THAT'S VERY CLEAR YOUR FAMILY LOVES YOU, THEY ARE HERE KNOB A PART OF THE CELEBRATION I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU RECOGNIZE THEM SO WE CAN PAY AND GRATITUDE WILL YOU SHARE WITH US WHO YOU

HAVE HERE. >> MY WIFE AND OF 37 YEARS,

ABOUT 37 YEARS TODAY. >> MY DAUGHTER.

DANIELLE. I HAVE MY SISTER DOREEN.

MY BROTHER-IN-LAW VICTOR. >> INVESTIGATOR.

MY MOTHER IN LAW. AND THE ONE THAT BROUGHT

MEASURE HERE, MY MOM. >> BEAUTIFUL.

EXTRA APPLAUSE. >> AND WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL CERTIFICATE I WOULD LIKE TO READ IT TO YOU AT THIS TIME.

WE EXPRESS OUR SINCERE APPRECIATION TO DANIEL TKPWAFPLT ARGZA AND WITH THE NUECES COUNTY DATED SEPTEMBER THIRD. IT IS SIGNED BY BARBARA CANALES THE NUECES COUNTY JUDGE AND THE COMMISSIONERS ALL SIGNING ALONG WITH ME OF NUECES COUNTY AND EVEN THOUGH IT IS APPARENT CAN YOU USE THIS AND A TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION.

>> LIKE THE MEDAL MADE WITH, GOLD AND SILVER.

THOSE ARE THE MOST PRECIOUS MEDALS ON THE EARTH BUT IT IS VERY CLEAR WE CHOSE WISELY WHEN WE DECIDED TO HONOR PEOPLE WITH THE SAME MEDALS. WE HOPE THE TIME THE WATCH THIS WATCH REPRESENTS WILL MAKE YOU REMEMBER ABOUT THE TIME THAT YOU SPENT HERE WITH US I HOPE IT MEANS THAT YOU WILL SPEND YOUR TIME LOVING RETIREMENT. AND WE NEED A TRAINING ACADEMY I CANNOT BE A PERSON WHO WOULD MENTOR AND TEACH YOUNG PEOPLE.

I HOPE MAYBE THAT LITTLE SEED STAYS WITH YOU AFTER YOU SEE DO A VACATION OR GARDENING OR TOOLS, TRUCK WORK OR RANCH WORK WHATEVER IT IS YOU LOVE TO DO. BUT JUST KNOW HOW MUCH WE VALUE ALL THE YEARS YOU GAVE US. GENTLEMEN, CAPTAINS, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TO HONOR YOUR BROTHER.

SHERIFF. YOU'RE A GOOD LEADER THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE GOOD PEOPLE. AGAIN WOULD YOU JOIN US HERE SO WE CAN PRESENT THIS AND TAKE A PHOTO.

WE INVITE YOUR FAMILY. WHOEVER WANTS TO JOIN.

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>>> CONGRATULATIONS. ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT.

>> CONGRATULATIONS. >> THAT'S GREAT.

THAT HAS BEEN A GOOD MORNING. >> AND JOSH.

THAT IS GREAT; AND SO YOU THIS IS A BIG ONE.

[2. Tyner W. Little, III, Commissioners Court Manager, retiring after 29 years of service to Nueces County.]

HE WOULD LIKE BEE LINDA READ IT.

YOU NEED TO ALLOWIS. WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE THAT TYNER W. LITTLE, III, OUR COMMISSIONER COURT MANAGER IS RETIRING AFTER 29 YEARS OF SERVICE TO NUECES COUNTY.

AND I'M GOING TO START BY ALLOWING BEE LINDA TO READ THIS

RECOGNITION. >> I DON'T HAVE A COPY.

AND OUR APPRECIATION TO TYNER W. LITTLE, III RETIRING AFTER

29 YEARS OF NUECES COUNTY. >> I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT TODAY IS EVEN ADEQUATE TO START A SHORT DISCUSSION OF HOW MUCH YOU MEAN TO THIS ENTIRE COUNTY.

YOU KNOW THEY SAY THAT WHEN SOMEBODY LOSES, YOU KNOW AN APEN DAMAGE IN AN ACCIDENT THAT THEY CAN STILL, YOU KNOW FEEL IT. THERE IS THAT GHOST.

I HAVE A FEELING AFTER SEPTEMBEH I'LL BE SAYING TYNER, CALL TYNER. GET TYNER, TO WRITE IT UP.

ASK TYNER TO COVER. HE KNOWS WHERE IT IS.

TYNER HAS THE ANSWER I'M CERTAIN JUST CALL HIM.

I THINK THAT WHEN SOMEBODY WHO LOCHS THEIR JOB AS MUCH AT YOU DO IT MAKES IT A HARD SPOT TO FILL.

I WHO EP THAT MAYBE MORE TIME THE COMING DAYS AND THE 30TH.

TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. AND JOIN US.

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I WANT TO YOU KNOW TODAY IS NOT THE ONLY DAY WE'LL GET TO HONOR TYNER. IT IS JUST THE START.

, I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS, JUDGE. YOU NOSE I COULD NOT GET WHERE I AM WITHOUT WITHOUT THE TRUST OF ALL THE COUNTY DEPARTMENTS, PURCHASING, AUDITOR. EVERYONE IN THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, YOU KNOW THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WHO I USED TO REPRESENT. IT.

ALL THE MOVING COMPONENTS OF THE COUNTY HAVE COOPERATED WITH ME TO HELP ME GET WHAT THE COURT ASKED.

I COULD NOT DO WHAT I WAS CHARGED TO DO BY THIS COURT.

PUBLIC WORKS, TOO. THE CLERK THE DISTRICT CLERK.

THE SHERIFF'S THE RECORDS ROOM I'LL KEEP THEM QUICK.

THERE IS THE DEPARTMENT GOING ABOVE THE DUTY.

I WAS A PROSECUTOR. I HAD A FAMOUS INDESCENT EXPOSURE THE ROTHTOWN SUPERINTENDENT OF THE DISTRICT. HIGH-PROFILE CASE.

AND CARL LEWIS ASKED ME TO PROSECUTE THAT ONE.

A CLASS B MISDEMEANOR. AND WE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH RESOURCES. I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THE CASE BUT NOT HAVING ME RESOURCES AND THE BUILDING I HAVE TO BUILD A REPLICA OF THE BATHROOM STALL.

>> THEY DID IT? >> THEY SAID WE CAN DO IT.

YOU WANT TO ASK ME ABOUT THE DETAILS OF THE CASE.

>> I'M GOOD. WE USED IT AS EVIDENCE AND THOSE TWO BUILDING WORKERS WHO WERE SO PROUD OF THE WORK.

AND TO THE JUDGES AND I HAVE BEEN IN THE COURTS ASSIGNED SINCE 1994. SINCE 2009.

>>> AND I NEED TO TALK ABOUT MY OFFICE AND THEY'RE TOTALLY AWESOME THE BEST AT WHAT THEY DO.

AND TERESA KNOWS THE NUMBERS LIKE CRAZY.

TARA KNOWS THE BOARDS AND THE SYSTEMS LIKE CRAZY.

AND BEE LINDA I ASKED THAT YOU STRONGLY CONSIDER HIRING HER TO RYE PLACE ME. I NEED TO INTRODUCE TO YOU MY FIANCEE. THAT'S ALEX.

WE'RE GETTING MARRIED IN NOVEMBER.

>> CONGRATS. >> THEN I HAVE A BUNCH MORE TO SAY BUT I'LL SAY IT PRIVATELY TO ALL THE INDIVIDUALS THAT I THANKED. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

ALL THE DEPARTMENTS AND I'M GOING TO ASK BELINDA.

CAN YOU READ IT FOR ME. I WAS ASKING FOR A GIFT AND LET ME SET IT UP AS YOU KNOW, THE JUDGE AND I HAD A MEETING WITH

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THE DOJ AT THE END OF JULY LIKE I HAVE BEEN HAVING TO REPORT TO THE DOJ. ANNUALLY.

I WAS APPOINTED ADA COORDINATOR IN APRIL OF PROUD 12.

STARTED REPORTING TO THE DOJ IN 2015 AFTER OUR SETTLEMENT.

I GOT A MESSAGE FROM AMY EDWARDO THIS MORNING.

COULD YOU READ IT IN ITS ENTIRETY.

YOU CAN SEER EXTENSION IS SET TO EXPIRE SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2021. SEND ANY UPDATES SINCE THE PHONE CONVERSATION AT THE END OF JULY.

AND THIS CAN INCLUDE COMPLETIONS, CONSTRUCTION OR PROJECTS MOVING FROM THE DESIGN PHASE INTO CONSTRUCTION.

I COMMUNICATED THE STATUS OF THE EXTENSION TO MY DEPUTY AND TOE DOUG WHO IS THEIR ATTORNEY, WE ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT THE AGREEMENT WILL BE CLOSED AT ITS EXPIRATION.

>> I CAN NOT COME GIVE THAT YOU HUG, WE HAVE BEEN UNDER A SETTLEMENT THAT WAS ONEROUS AND A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT.

AND THE AMERICANS WITH THE BENEFITS AND IT IS A HUGE VICTORY AND THIS IS HAPPY TO SHARE AND SHARE IN THAT AND THE

EFFORTS MADE TO WASHINGTON. >> . PAY THE DIVIDENDS BU

>> THE GIVE WAS YOU AND CULMINATES.

>> AND I LOVE THAT YOU LOVE WHAT YOU FEEL EVERY DAY AND HAVE A LOT OF FUN, WE DON'T WANT TO CALL YOU FOR COURT BUT TO FIND OUT ABOUT THE COURSE IS PLAYING AND YOU FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THE HAPPINESS WITH YOU AND.

>> AND STATE IT HAS BEEN ON AN MORE TO THE RESIDENTS AND, WE

DID IT. >> AGAIN I'M GOING TO MISS MY FAMILY. AND FOR TINIER TO SELF-BRATE.

THAT'S NOT A HINT. I WILL FUND IT IF I NEED TO.

AND BEFORE I GET INTO STUFF I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET THAT THING THAT YOU READ TO US SO CAN YOU GET THAT DONE.

>> I GOT A FOLLOW UP IT DID SAY I HAVE A FOLLOW UP AFTER AGREEMENT EXPIRES WE WILL SEND YOU A LATER NO OTHER REPORTING

IS NECESSARY. >> WE LIKE THAT.

AND PUT THAT WHERE WE CAN PUT WHEN TINE SER NOT HERE.

AND YOU KNOW ON A PERSONAL NOTE I HAVE KNOWN AWE LONG TIME.

WE'RE DATING OURS. WE DIDN'T DATE.

WHACK TO THE DAYS. AND HE IS YOUNGER THAN ME IN THE SAME ERA AND IT IS A PLEASURE.

ALL THE STAFF AND IT IS STIFF YOU TO TAKE THE POLITICS OUT OF THE JOB THAT YOU HAVE. YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THE FIVE STRONG PERSONALITIES.

THE AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU KNOW THE FIVE OF US UP HERE YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE MOST AND ACCOUNTABLE TO AND YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THAT. IT'S NOT EASY DEALING WITH IT.

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YOU HANDLED IT WITH PROFESSIONALISM.

WE GET UPSET ABOUT THE THINGS. AND WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IT IS A I KNOW THAT YOU COULD HAVE GONE OUT AND MADE MORE MONEY AND SET YOURSELF UP HIGH. AND I HEARD YOU RETIRED.

AND NOT GETTING IT RIGHT BUT YOU'RE NOT HOLD ENOUGH TO RET RETIRE. YOU DON'T BUILD IT TOO BIG AND TOO MUCH TO FINANCE AND FUND. I THOUGHT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW I THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT THAT. I NEED AND AND CAN YOU DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND NOT AND THE SOON TO BE NEW WIFE THAT'S A COOL SPOT I WILL NOTE CALL YOU WHERE THINGS ARE BUT FIND OUT WHERE ARE YOU PLAYING GOLF OR WHERE THE RV IS TAKING YOU.

>> AND ADA,.

>> ASKING YOU NO MORE ABOUT ADA AND DO THAT, RIGHT.

AND CONTINUE COME FLY WITH THAT.

YOU KNOW. AND WOULD YOU AND AND NOBODY LIKE IT. AND ONE THING, WE APPOINTED YOU AND. AND THANK YOU FOR NOT LETTING ME DOWN. AND DO A GOOD JOB.

>> AND A GOOD JOB AND I JUST -- I WISH YOU WELL AND THE FUTURE WIFE AND DAUGHTERS. SO, ENJOY WHAT YOU CAN AND GOING FORWARD GETTING UP. GET UP WHEN YOU WANT.

HAVE COFFEE AND GO BACK TO BEAT IF YOU WANT.

>> AND THANK YOU. >> I'M SAVE SOME FOR THE COAST AND MAYBE. I WAS SAD TIME LINE TO BE TYNER AND HAVE AND I WISH YOU THE BEST.

I AM SAD THERE IS A TRANSPORT WE BROUGHT YOU IN AND TINE SER YOUNG FEW. WE'LL HAVE HIM FOR A LONG TIME. I KNOW THAT YOU PUT A LOT TO THE COUNTY AND YOU GOT IT. AND I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST SAW GROWING UP AND REALIZED AND MAYBE THAT WAS A SEED THAT'S WHERE I WILL BE AND DO IN LIFE THAT'S THE PATH IT HAS TAKEN YOU TO.

SADNESS TURNS TO HAPPINESS. WE'RE A BETTER COUNTY FOR YOU BEING HERE. THAT WAS PERFECT TIMING ON THAT. AND ASK FOR BETTER GOING.

IT WAS WELL TIMED. >> WE THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND WORKING IN GETTING THAT TAKEN CARE OF ADD THANK YOU FOR THE WORK. I WILL SHARE THIS AND THE

CROWD. >> AND I HAVE NOT WORKED WITH YOU. AND I VALUE THE FRIENDSHIP I WANT TO TELL YOU I WORKED WITH YOUR DAD.

HE BOUGHT YOU A NEW CAMERO: AND CALLED YOUR DADDY WRECKED

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THE CAMARO. NOW WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION HE SAID THAT'S MY BOY BUT I LOVE HIM.

AND REMEMBER ENJOY THE RETIREMENT.

SO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. NO RUSH TO DO ANYTHING ELSE.

>> CAN I GET A PICTURE. >> YOU BET.

>> AND WE HAVE WE HAVE THE CERTIFICATE AND PRESENT THAT A TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION. THE THING YOU NEED TO WORRY ABOUT IS T TIME. AND A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.

WE'LL SAVE THE HUGE APPLAUSE FOR THE NEXT EVENT.

>> DO YOU WANT TO. I'LL COME DOWN HERE.

>> CAN YOU HAVE A BOX OF COOKIES, WE'LL BREAK BACK MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE ADA. WE HAD THIS GOOD NEWS ON THE RADAR FOR A LITTLE BIT BUT NOT THE OFFICIAL E-MAIL.

ONE THING IS CERTAIN THAT THE COMMITMENT THAT WE MADE WILL BE HONORED. WE'RE NOT UNDER A SETTLEMENT IF AGREEMENT. THAT IS WHY WE HAD THIS BURDEN BEING LIFTED. NOT BECAUSE WE HAVE FULFILLED OUR PRIZE, THEY BELIEVE IN US AND IN THE ADMINISTRATION NOW AND THE WORK YOU SET FORTH IS WHY WE HAVE THAT DOCUMENTED.

THERE WILL BE MORE LATER I WANT TO YOU KNOW AND THE COURT TO KNOW, WE'RE NOT DONE BY A LONG SHOT BUT HAVING THAT AGREEMENT FINISHED IS A HUGE TESTIMONY TO THE WORK.

AND THEY DO BELIEVE IN THIS. THANK YOU, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE

[1. Discuss disaster preparedness and response, including matters related to COVID-19, Emergency Orders, severe weather, flooding, drainage, economic recovery, state and federal assistance, and infrastructure status, and other related matters.]

ON TO THE OUR GENERAL INFORMATION REPORTS AND FOR THOSE WE HAVE GARRETT NELSON. ST IT IS NO LONGER MORNING BUT THE AFTERNOON THE MORNINGS WITH WELL SPENT.

NOW WE TRANSITION WE GET BACK TO THE NATURE OF SOME OF OUR

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WORK AND GATHER LETTED. TALK TO US ABOUT SOME BIG THINGS IN THE COUNTY WITH SOME OF THESE DISASTERS LIKE

COVID-19. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, JUDGE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> AND FIRST OF ALL SOME WEATHER INFORMATION THERE IS, YOU WILL BE SEEING A LOT ABOUT THE ELEVATED FIRE CONDITIONS. ON TV WANT YOU YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT. THERE HAVE NO IMPACTS TO THE REGION I JUST WANTED TO REPORT THAT THE IDEALS.

AND FIVE DEATHS AND HOSPITALIZED WITH 81 IN THE ICU. ICU AVAILABILITY IS LOW IN THE REGION THIS WEEK AS WE ARE USED TO.

NUECES COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH DISTRICT VACCINES HAS BEEN GOING ON AND IS CONTINUING TO. WE ANNOUNCED A NUMBERS LAST MONTH OF 11240 THAT WERE VACCINATED THERE WHICH IS A HIGH NUMBER. AND TO DATE.

4891 AND THE BIG DAY WAS SEPTEM. 489 THAT DAY.

AND WE DO HAVE THE NEW A SOFT OPENING.

, THIS IS ROWB -- ROBBS TOWN. NIKE IS NOW THE OUR NEWEST SITE TO HAVE ONE OVER ON THE WEST SIDE TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE COUNTY AND THE REGION.

AND OFFICIAL ADDRESS FOR THAT IS 500 NORTH HIGHWAY.

I 69 ROBBS TOWN. THEY CAN REGISTER THERE.

WE'LL DO ALL THREE TYPES OF THE VACCINATIONS THERE AND THE FIRST SECOND, THIRD DOSES WILL BE GIVEN THERE.

AND WE'LL DO A MEDIA OPENING AND MAKE A BIGGER DEAL IN 7 TO 10 DAYS. THE SMALLER CLINICS WE HAVE BEEN DOING ARE CONTINUING AND LET PEE ENUMERATE THOSE, GREEN WOOD, NUECES. WE WERE TRYING TO ESTABLISH ONE AT HILL TOP THAT WOULD SWAP WITH THE LEGACY CENTER.

WE'LL DO THAT THIS WEEK. AND GOOD WILL THEN THE COURTHOUSE HERE ON FRIDAY. THE LINES AND THOSE THINGS RATHER THAN GIVING YOU, REMIND YOU THAT NUECES KNOWS.COM IS WHERE YOU CAN GET THE INFORMATION REGARDING THE LOCATIONS, REGISTRATION NUMBERS ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.

AND WE ARE STILL DOING THE TESTING AT THE MEMORIAL HOSPITAL. MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY FROM 9 A.M. TO 2 P.M. WE DID A REQUEST THAT WE LET YOU KNOW ABOUT AND TWO WEEKS AGO THAT WAS ON BEHALF OF THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE TO GET THREE GRADUATE STUDENTS FROM TEXAS STATE. THESE ARE FORENSIC ANTHROPOLOGY STUDENTS. I WANT TO REPORT THEY GOT HERE ON THE 8TH AND STAYED THROUGH THE 17TH AS PLANNED AND JUST SEEMED TO WORK OUT GREAT. THEY WERE ABLE TO COVER THE TIME WHICH THE ME'S OFFICE NEEDED TO GET PEOPLE BACK IN OFFICE BUT THEY SAID THEY WERE EXTREMELY PLEASED WITH THESE STUDENTS AND, YOU KNOW, WISH THEY HAD THEM FROM NOW ON.

SO, THAT WAS GOOD NEWS AND KNOW ABOUT.

>> WE STILL HAVE THE INFUSION CLINIC THAT THE COUNTY IS DOING. AND 2601.

AND THEN AT THE FAIRGROUNDS IN ROBBS TOWN AND THEY IS PROVIDED 1410 TREATMENT TREATMENT SO THEY ARE DOING GREAT WORK THERE. THEY ARE OFFERING THE INFUSION AHEAD OF TIME AND THEN DRISCOLL IS DOING PEDIATRIC INFUSION.

THEN MOVING ON TO THE WINTER STORM.

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WE RECEIVED WORD THAT WE ON THE FIRST ROUND HAVE BEEN DENIED FUNDS. THERE WERE 254 COUNTIES THAT APPLIED. ONLY 44 ARE RECEIVING FUNDING ON THE FIRST GO AROUND. WE'RE NOT GIVING UP IT'S IN APPEALS AND WORKING HARD STARTING YESTERDAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE COULD GET ON THE DAMAGES AND FROM WINTER STORM 2021.

, THAT'S THE REPORT. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> AND I MAY PUT DR. WILLMOT AND QUESTIONS ABOUT BOOSTERS.

THE FDA MADE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND THE CDC'S COMMITTEE MET YESTERDAY AS WELL. WITH REGARDS TO BOOSTERS.

AND ADMINISTERING THE THIRD DOSE NOT THE BOOSTER FOR THE IMMUNO COMPROMISED INDIVIDUALS.

AND DOCTOR, WE'RE PREPARING OURSELVES FOR THE BOOSTER.

>> WE'RE SETTING UP. WE HAVE SIGNS SET UP AND READY

TO EXECUTE THE PLAN. >> WE'RE EXPECTING IT, RIGHTS?

PFIZER WILL BE APPROVED. >> AND WE GET THAT OKAY.

THERE IS JUST A LOT TO LEARN AND 65 AND OLDER AND A BUNCH OF CATEGORIES. AND THE EMPLOYEES AND A SET OF

SIX TEAMS. >> AND AND THE FEMA PIECE OF IT THE UPDATE. THERE IS A LOT TO UNPACK THERE WE'LL BRING IT TO YOU. WE HAVE WORK TO DO AS FAR AS FIGURING OUT WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS.

AND NO COUNTY RECEIVED A DESIGNATION AND NO URBAN COUNTY RECEIVED DESIGNATION. WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE THE DSOS. THE NEXT THING WE'RE GOING TO DO PUT FORTH A BRIEF. -- BRIEF.

WE TALKED WITH EVERYONE AD NAUSEAM AND WE ARE RESOLVED BECAUSE THE AMBIENT TEMPERATURE DID NOT DIP BELOW A CERTAIN AMOUNT DOES NOT MEAN WE DID NOT SUFFER DAMAGES.

MAYBE WE DIDN'T LOOK THAT COLD COMPARED TO BILLINGS, MONTANA BUT WE WERE COLD ENOUGH TO SUSTAIN DAMAGES.

WE THINK WE HAVE MET THE THRESHOLD.

LOOK FOR US TO HAVE MORE EMERGENCY COMING BACK TO CATEGORY B. THOSE WILL BE ALLOWED TO GO UP THE EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE WAS DENIED.

WE WERE SHOCKED. 7/8 OF TEXAS WAS AFFECTED.

>> THEY WERE DOING THAT THIS MORNING WHEN I LEFT.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. THE NIKE LOCATION, WHO IS BEING PAID, WHO SET THAT UP. THE HEALTH THE COUNTY AND

CITY? >> THE CAPITAL WITH THE HEALTH

DEPARTMENT? >> THE CITY?

>> I DON'T BELIEVE SO. >> IT IS TILELY ON OUR AGENDA THE COUNTY IS BUT STAFFED WITH CITY-COUNTY HELP.

CITY PUBLIC HEALTH. >> THANK YOU, GARRETT.

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>> WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO BOARD APPOINTMENTS THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME. WE HAVE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS APPLICANTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY SERVING WOULD YOU GO OVER THE

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PROTOCOL, WE HAVE THREE POSITIONS THAT EXPIRE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR. WE HAVE THREE LETTERS OF INTENT FROM THE INCUMBENTS. LYNN ALLISON.

ANNA JIMENEZ AND DAN LEYENDECKER.

>> MOVE. >> SECOND.

>> A MOTION TO MOVE AND APPOINT.

ANY DISCUSSION I KNOW THAT LYNN IS ON THE LINE.

>> ANNA IS HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF DAN WAS

ONLINE. >> NO WORRIES.

IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE ANNA AND LYNN AND OUR APPOINTEES AND THANK YOU THEM FOR THEIR PUBLIC SERVICE IN THIS IMPORTANT POLITICAL BODY THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY. YOU ARE OFFICIALLY REAPPOINTED AND YOU WILL GET A LETTER OUTLINING YOUR TERM.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, GUYS. >> AND WE HAVE THE NUECES

[2. Nueces Center for Mental Health and Intellectual Disabilities]

CENTER FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES.

>> A MOTION TO PROVE. >> HE'S FILLING AN OPEN SPOT.

>> THERE WAS A LETTER OF RESIGNATION, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPOINT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.

THIS IS A GOOD ADDITION. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> THERE IS A LOT OF, WE'LL

[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]

MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA A THROUGH X ARE PLACED ON THE RAIN WE DO THE PRESENTATION. I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.

THE CONSENT AND MOVE RIGHT TO IRT.

>> AND DOCTOR WE'LL BE WITH YOU AFTER THIS.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL H FOR A QUICK QUESTION.

>> H AS IN HENRY. ANYTHING ELSE.

>> COMMISSIONERS? >> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL L.

>> L, YOU GOT IT ANYTHING ELSE.

>>> Y. >> I WANTED TO PULL Q AND R.

>> HOW ABOUT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINING.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[H. Accept FY 2019/2020 Report; Approve budgeted contract for Fiscal Year 2020-2021. 1. Robstown Area Development Commission - $12,000]

>> AYE. >> LET'S TAKE THEM IN ORDER.

LETTER H. COMMISSIONER MAREZ.

RADC REPRESENTED HERE. I WANTED TO THANK YOU TERESA

AND TO CORRECT. >> IT WAS HELD BACK WE DIDN'T KNOW. WE'RE THANKFUL IT HAS SOME STABILITY W COVID BAD TIMING THAT LOST THE DIRECTOR AND THE MEMBERSHIP WENT. WE HELD BACK TO SEE IF THEY HAD STABILITY. AND MR. BAULS IS THE EXECUTIVE

DIRECTOR. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER AND JUDGE I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY. AS THE COMMISSIONER SAID I HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO SERVE AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR ON A CONSULTANT FOR THE ROBSTOWN AND THE COMMISSIONER MAREZ ADD I HAD BEEN. TALKING ABOUT THE FUN FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY I HAVE BEEN GENEROUS TO FUND THE RADC. THIS FISCAL YEAR THE FUNDING WAS ON HOLD WHILE THE ORGANIZATION WAS IN TRANSITION.

WE'RE STILL GETTING THINGS IN POSITION.

WE HAVE A NEW OFFICIALS AT THE OUTLET MAIL.

WE WORKED WITH THE PEOPLE OUT THERE.

SHELTON AND TIFFANY ARE GREAT TO WORK WITH.

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THEY OFFERED US A OFFS SPACE. WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND THE COMMISSIONER IS ON THE BOARD. WE APPRECIATE THE ABILITY TO CAPTURE THE FUNDING THIS FISCAL YEAR WHICH ENDS IN A WEEK OR SO. WE APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT.

I WILL TELL YOU WE'LL BE BACK NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

IN TEN DAYS. I APPRECIATE WORKING WITH YOU AND TALKING WITH MR. BRIAR OVER AT THE COMMISSION.

WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP. WE WILL GRAB LUNCH AND TALK ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[J. Approve method of procurement (request for qualifications) for Nueces County Jail Criminal Justice Assessment; authorize the Purchasing Agent to publish a notice; and adopt an order delegating evaluation authority to a selection committee.]

AYE. ITEM J.

>> I NEED CLARIFICATION. LET ME HAVE MICHAEL ADDRESS IT. WOULD YOU THE PROCUREMENT OF

THE CJAA. >> THE SHERIFF EXPRESSED ARE INTEREST IN HAVING AN ASSESSMENT OF THE FACILITIES OVER THERE. SO, WE REACHED OUT TO SOME FOLKS IN THAT PERFORMED THIS ACTUAL PROJECT AND WHAT THEY INDICATED TO US IS THAT THE TEMPERATURES WOULD COME OUT AND EVALUATE THE CONDITIONS IN THE JAIL AND WITH THE JUVENILE JUSTICE AS WELL. AND IT IS KIND OF AT MORE BROAD AND A SITE EVALUATION. AND SOLICIT AND QUALIFIED BIDDERS FOR THIS AND SEE WHAT THEY MAY OFFER US.

AND WE CAN CRAFT DOWN TO THE SCOPE THAT HE CAN AFFORD.

I'M TOLD THIS PROJECTS DEPENDS HOW DEEP YOU WANT THEM TO GO.

WHAT EVALUATIONS SO YOU CAN SCALE IT DOWN.

CONSTITUENT WAS 250 TO 300 K FOR THE WORK.

>> COMING FROM WHERE? THE FUNDING.

WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO TALK TO THE FUNDING NOT SURE COMING FROM THE FOR IT FEWER OR GRANTS TO COVER THIS.

THAT'S ALL I KNOW ABOUT THIS AND IT IS A FRESH ASK.

THE COURT GRANTS PERMISSION TO GO OUT TO BIDS AND DRAFT THEM WORKING WITH THE SHERIFF TO IDENTIFY THAT SCOPE AIR THAT HE IS INTERESTED IN. AND COME BACK AND THAT COMMITTEE WOULD THEN EVALUATE THE BIDS AND THE SHERIFF IS ON THE SELECTION COMMITTEE FOR THE PROJECT.

ALONG WITH THE COUNTY JUDGE. >> WE CAN ASK THE SHERIFF TO COME HERE IN A BIT IF YOU LIKE BUT THIS --

>> THIS IS JUST A. >> IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS A BROAD REACHING THING. THE INTENT WAS AND THEY CREATED A NEW JAIL TO HOUSE WHAT THEY HAD.

TO ALLOW FOR GROWTH INTO THE FUTURE.

>> I DON'T WANT TO PUT RECORD WORDS IN.

PART OF THIS MAY BE WE GET INFORMATION THAT HELPS US IF THE COUNTY IS INTERESTED IN GETTING A JAIL.

>> IT IS ABOUT TIME WE DID THAT YOU NEED TO GO INDEPTH AS MUCH POSSIBLE SEE WHAT WORKS AND DOESN'T WORK.

AND ARE YOU RIGHT ABOUT GROWTH.

GET BACK TO THE FEDERAL PRISONERS AND, HE IS ON THE LINE. SHERIFF HOOPER?

>> ARE YOU ON THE LINE, SHERIFF?

>> I WAS NOT CLEAR. THIS TIME.

AND ON THIS HERE. SO MOVED.

>> AND. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> THIS IS JUST FOR THE RFQ WE'LL RECEIVE PROPOSALS THE

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COMMITTEE WILL REVIEW AND COME BACK TO THE COURT WITH THOSE WITH THE WINNING PROPOSAL RECOMMENDATION AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK FURTHER QUESTIONS AND SEIZE WITH WE'RE LEARNING IN THE PROCESS. WE DON'T HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE IDENTIFY THE AT -- IDENTIFY THE AT -- AT THIS POINT.

>> THAT WAS MY QUESTION. >> BUT THIS OUT AS MY TIME.

>> ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT THE. >> THE SO SHERIFF HOOP SER ON THE LINE. I THINK GIVE HIM A SECOND.

>> THIS IS THE AUTHORITY TO DO IT.

WE CAN SUSPEND AND HAVE HIM COME BACK HE'S PROBABLY AWAY

FROM THE DESK AT THIS MOMENT. >> IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR A RFQ WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE.

>> I THINK THERE IS A FUNDING SOURCE.

WE HAVE TO TALK TO THE SHERIFF.

I MENTIONED THE COST HE DIDN'T PLUSH AT THAT NUMBER.

>> I'M WILLING TO PAY FOR IT. >> I AGREE WITH YOU, WE WANT TO THE FUNDING RESOURCE AND EXTEND THE EFFORT I AGREE WITH THAT

100%. >> IN THE BACKUP IT DIDN'T HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE FUNDING SOURCE IS. YOU SAID 250,000 IN.

>> THAT'S WHAT THE. >> THAT'S A SMALL AMOUNT BASED ON THE WORK THEY ASKED THEM TO DO.

I DON'T KNOW WE MAY HAVE SOMETHING LESS THAN THAT

DEPENDING ON HOW IT IS SCOPED. >> FAR US TO HOLD ON TO LOADING ON THIS UNTIL WE CAN TALK WITH THE SHERIFF.

CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ALL RIGHT. >> GIVE HIM A CHANCE.

>> HE IS GOING TO POP UP I KNOW SOMETIMES HE GETS CALLED AWAY.

GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO POP AWAY AND TINE KERR DO US A FAVOR OF

[L. Ratify agreement with Strategic Government Resources (SGR) for an Interim Emergency Management Coordinator to perform related duties for County.]

TEXTING HIM. LET'S GO TO L.

>> AND. THIS IS THE COMPANY FIND THE WEEKS PAY THEM $10,000 FOR THE ASSISTANCE? 2900, IT STATES. THEY HAVE A PLACEMENT FEE OF $10,000 THE HOURS ON THE HOURLY WORK THEY ARE DOING.

THAT IS DOUBLE PLAYED. AND I MEAN THAT THE JUDGE HIRES THIS ONE HERE. THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT ON THIS CONTRACT IS 49,000. IT IS NOT 49,000.

>> AND FOR 60 DAYS. AND SO --

>> THIS IS THE MAXIMUM ON WE WOULD PAY THIS CONSULTING GROUP? ON THIS, YES, TO EXTEND AND THAT PROCESS WILL NOT EXCEED 49,000.

THAT'S THE NEXT 30 TO 90 DAYS WITH NO DIRECTOR.

THIS IS BRIDGING A GAP UNTIL THEY SELECT THE PERMANENT POSITION, WE WOULD NOTE KEEP THIS ACTIVE AFTER THE POINT AT WHICH SOMEONE IS HIRED. THERE IS AN OUT CLAUSE FOR US IN THE CONTRACT WITH 14 DAYS NOTICE WE HIRE SOMEONE IN A MONTH, AND WE'RE HAPPY WITH THE INDIVIDUAL WE'RE READY TO STOP

THE CONTRACT WE CAN STOP IT. >> THERE IS SOME REIMBU REIMBURSEMENTS ONCE WE WOULD RUIZ THE

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COORDINATOR. I MEAN WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION NOT TO HAVE AND HURRICANE NICHOLAS CAME THREE DAYS AFTER HE STARTED. WE SOUGHT A TEMPORARY FIX.

AND IT IS A NEEDED POSITION GIVEN OUR STATE OF AFFAIRS WE HAVE AN EXTRA LAYER OF WINTER STORM ISSUES.

>> I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE APPOINTMENT WHY RATIFYING IT AND GET TO VOTE ON IT BEFORE.

, WE HAD A MONTH'S, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO YET THIS. THIS DOES NOT FALL UNDER THE EMERGENCY POWERS THAT'S MY ISSUE.

YOU THE RIGHT TO APPOINT NO QUESTION I DON'T SEE IN THERE THAT THIS THE COURT DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO PAY SOMEONE AND WHO WE'RE HIRING TO DO THAT IT IS NOT IN THE RIGHT TO HIRE SOMEONE AND RATIFY IT WHEN WE DIDN'T LOOK AT ANY OF THIS OR

NO WHO THIS IS. >> IT WAS VETTED WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS. VETTED WITH PROSE CUREMENT AND IT IS JUST A CHOICE YOU DON'T HAVE TO RATIFY IF YOU DON'T WANT TO IT REMAINS AN EMERGENCY TODAY.

IT AN TORN POSITION IN THE COUNTY.

WE'RE NOT ONE UNDER DISASTER BUT FOUR.

AND WITH NEW ONES THREATENING ALL THE TIME WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED WITH NICHOLAS. WE HAD WE ISSUED ANOTHER ON NICHOLAS WHEN THE CONE DID POINT OUR WAY.

I IT DISPUTE THIS COULD HAVE BEEN AS A CONTRACT AND WHETHER IT IS -- I'M -- I DON'T DISPUTE THE ABILITY TO APPOINT THE PERSON I DISPUTE THE ABILITY TO , WE HAD NEATING TO BRING THIS FORWARD. , I UNDERSTAND YOUR PERSPECTIVE AND THAT'S ALL 2020. I MADE SURE THEY WERE VETTED THROUGH THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THE LAG TIME THAT YOU SEE IS NOT THE LACK TIME THAT EXISTED.

WE STARTED THE PROCESS I THINK THE NEXT DAY.

AND THERE WAS ZERO LAG TIME AND IT TAKES THAT TIME THE FACT HE STARTED LATE WAS DUE TO THE FACT THAT HE HAD TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS TO TO BE HERE WITH US.

SO, DO WE KNOW. THERE WAS A LAG TIME.

>> DO YOU KNOW BEFORE WE HIRE A PERMANENT ONE.

>> WHEN WE FIND SOMEONE WHO MEETS THE I RAN THIS UP FROM THE DISTRICT FROM OUR REP HERE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE CHIEF.

EVERYONE IS WORKING DILIGENTLY BUT THIS IS A POSITION THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO GO OUT HAPHAZARDLY.

WE'RE NOT SAYING MR. GARRETT IS NOT QUALIFIED.

IS HE? >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING; HE IS IN THE POSITION RIGHT NOW?

>> HE IS QUALIFIED. IF HE IS QUALIFIED WHAT ARE THE CHANCES HE STAYS ON, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK BUT THE CONTRACT IS A SHORT TERM CONTRACTCH. MR. NELSON IS A RETIRED CHIEF EXPERIENCE OVER 20 YEARS I DON'T KNOW IF THIS PLAN IS TO

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RETIRE HERE AND FIGHT DISASTERS FOR TEN MORE YEARS.

>> AND. >> THE PRICE WE PAY.

I DON'T WANT TO CARRY OVER. >> THERE IS NO CARRY OVER.

WE'RE GOING TO THE 32 AN HOUR, THE RATE WILL BE THE RATE THE HR SET. BACK TO THE PAY IT IS ADVISED AT. WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE.

YOU MAY THINK HOW EASY IS THAT TO FIND A COORDINATOR IN A COUNTRY IN A PANDEMIC. AS HARD AS IT IS TO FIND NURSES. IT WAS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IS APPROPRIATE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS VETTED VERY CAREFULLY.

AND JUST SO YOU KNOW THIS IS ON THE LOW SIDE OF THE AVERAGE THAT IS OUT THERE IN THE MARKETPLACE.

WE LOST A COUPLE OF GOOD CANDIDATES WHILE WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS.

>> JUDGE LET ME SAY, TOO. I UNDERSTAND FOR THE CONTRACTS TOWER PAY MORE BECAUSE OF THE BENEFITS THERE ARE NOT OTHER THINGS. NOT OBJECTING TO THE PERSON AND TO TO THE AMOUNT FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. I.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT AND LIKE YOU SAID I FOLLOWED THE PROTOCOL. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU BUT WE OUGHT TO BE THANKFUL THAT WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE JUST HAVE SO MANY CHALLENGES.

ALL I COULD THINK IF THEY COME OUR WAY THE FLOODING THAT WILL ENSUE AND THE PROBLEMS THAT WILL COME ARE TREMENDOUS.

WE HAD TO ACT QUICKLY WITH URGENCY.

WE DID SO. WE GOT AN AMAZING CANDIDATE.

HE DOES HIS OWN BEST SALES JOB EVERY TIME HE COMES INTO A ROOM. WE'RE BETTER FOR IT.

>> WHEN DO WE -- >> WHEN DO WE POST THIS.

>> THAT POSTING AS CLOSED AND WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP

AGAIN. >> THERE HAS TO BE SOMEONE WHO CAN TAKE THE HELM HERE. THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF, YOU KNOW BACKGROUND THAT NEEDS TO BE ESTABLISHED WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT. MYSELF, HR AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS WILL WORK TOGETHER TO GET THAT -- AND THE PERSON IS NOT JUST A EMPLOYEE. THIS PERSON IS A MEMBER OF THE STATE OF TEXAS INCIDENT COMMAND STRUCTURE AND COMPENSATED TO THE TUNE OF 35% BY THE STATE OF TEXAS.

THE STATE OF TEXAS CARE AS LOT ABOUT WHO IS INS POSITIONS EVEN THOUGH I HAVE THE DISCRETION I'M WORKING VERY CLOSELY TO MAKE SURE WE CHOOSE THE RIGHT CANDIDATE.

>> WE COMPETING IN THE SALARY, MICHAEL, WITH SURROUNDING

COUNTIES AROUND THE AREA? >> THAT'S A QUESTION BEST ANSWERED BY THE HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR.

>> NO, WE ARE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL.

THE COORDINATORS FOR A LIKE SIZED COUNTIES GET PAID A LOT

MORE. >> SURROUNDING ACCOUNTS ARE

PAYING MORE? >> COUNTIES THAT ARE SIMILARLY SITUATED, YES, LIKE GALVESTON AND --

>> COUNTIES NOBODY IS GOING TO BE WANTING TO COME HERE IF THEY CAN MAKE MORE MONEY IN ANOTHER COUNTY.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> WE NEED TO BE COMPETITIVE.

THE COURT DID THE TREM YUM PAY.

AND HAVE THE RIGHT RESOURCES AND THE OFFICE IS GREATFUL TO MAKE SURE THAT PLANNER AND THE DISASTER RECOVERY SPECIALIST EXISTS. WHAT VERY DONE SOME GOOD THINGS BUT THE SALARY IS NOT CORRECT. AOEURPBLGS' HOPING WE WILL OFFER DID WE HAVE A CONSULTANT -- I'M HOPING WE WILL OFFER. WE DID HAVE A CONSULTANT.

>> AND WE DID THROUGH PEOPLE COME FROM CALIFORNIA AND AROUND THE COUNTRY: WHY CAN'T WE DO THE SAME.

>> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

A NATIONAL SEARCH AND PUT IT OUT ALL OVER.

LET'S DO IT. WE'RE NOT USING A CONSULTANT.

>> THIS WAS FOR US TO GET SOMEONE IMMEDIATELY TO GO FROM

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ONE DAY TO THE NEXT. WE USED A CONSULTANT.

THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO GET SOMEONE UBER QUALIFIED TO SAY, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE STRUCTURE, POLICIES.

THE ONLY PERSON T IS NOT WEIRD THAT THE CHIEF, THE CHIEF PENA WAS A FIRE CHIEF. THE REGIONAL CHIEF.

TURNINGS OUT THE FIRE CHIEFS HAVE A LOT OF I GET

EXPERIENCE. >> AND HE IS IN CHARGE OF THE

EMC, RIGHT. >> HE IS IN CHARGE OF THE LEPC. AND SO IT JUST TURNS OUT THE CHIEFS WIND UP WORKING A LOT IN THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

WE PICKED SOMEONE GOOD BUT FROM ONE DAY TO THE NEXT.

THAT'S BECAUSE YOU CANNOT BE WITHOUT IN THE MIDDLE -- YOU SHOULD NOT BE WITHOUT BUT IT WOULD BE NEGLIGENCE ON MY PART TO NOT HAVE SOMEONE MEETLY FILL THE GAP.

AND MELISSA STAYED AN EXTRA WEEK TO ALLOW FOR A

TRANSITION. >> I'M CONFUSED.

SO WE'RE RATIFYING THIS FOR THE CONSULTANT.

, BRINGING US THE CANDIDATE WE HIRED.

>> THE CANDIDATE WE HIRED UNDER , HE IS NOT AN EMPLOYEE OF

NUECES COUNTY. >> THIS IS DONE IN ALL FORMS OF GOVERNMENT AND DONE WITH THE SUPERINTENDENTS, THE FIRMS HIRE THEIR GROUP OF MOST ARE RETIRED.

THEY'RE IN A COMFORTABLE PART OF LIFE THEY DON'T MIND DOING THIS FOR A FEW MONTHS. TO BUY THOSE ORGANIZATIONS TIME TO FIND AND DO RECRUITING. AND OTHER POSITIONS.

I LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED THAT OR ANTICIPATE THAT IN EVERY POSITION HERE AT THE COUNTY BUT I LIKE THE DIRECTION. AND LIKE WE SAID.

THAT'S A SPECIALIZED POSITION, WE'RE DOING IT TODAY.

I KNOW SOMETIMES THE TIMEFRAMES GET THE BEST OF YOU.

THAT'S WHY IT HAD TO COME UP THIS WAY.

>> WE HAD A SHORT WINDOW TO WORK WITH.

AND LIKE THE JUDGE STATED TAKEN ANOTHER OFFER BEFORE WE GET AN INTERVIEW SET. WHEN WE GOT THE CHANCE TO INTERVIEW GARRETT. AND GREAT JOB.

AND THE PERMANENT POSITION AND ANY CANDIDATE YOU HAVE A GREAT TEAM HERE AND KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE AND BRING THAT TO THE COUNTY AND SUPPORT STRUCTURE.

IF YOU LOOK AND A LOT OF NAMES A MANAGEMENT AND TO SEE AND PART OF THAT GROUP AND AND DIFFERENT POSITIONS AND LIKE I SAID THE DIRECTION TO GO AND SOME OF THOSE SPECIALIZED POSITIONS THAT WENT FROM TIME TO TIME WE GET VAY CAN CITIES AND TO LOOK AT UTILIZING THIS AND I AGREE.

WHEN WE HAVE THE TIME LET'S DO IT AND PLAN IT OUT.

>> AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS TO HAVE A VOICE IN THE PROCESS WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME. UNTIL WE HAVE AN INTERVIEW SET UP WE COLLECTED GARRETT FOR THE POSITION.

AND TO HEAR SO HE NEEDED TIME SO THAT TIME WAS TO GET US TO THE DAY AFTER LABOR DAY. APPEAR THERE WAS TIME TO COME BACK. THIS IS THE EARLIEST WE CAN BRING IT TO YOU. THAT'S WHY IT IS HERE.

>> WE NEED TO BE EVEN THOUGH GOVERNMENT DOESN'T RUN LIKE A BUSINESS. AND THE BEST PRACTICES WHERE IT CAN MAKE FOR EFFICIENCIES. THIS IS A GREAT RESOURCE AND ALL THE JURISDICTIONS AND RESOURCE ONE OF MANY I HAVE

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NEVER USED THEM. I LEARNED THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND, YES, YOU WANT TO KNOW THE BEST PEOPLE USE THESE TYPES OF FIRMS THAT'S THE CONCEPT TO BRING YOU THE BEST PEOPLE. AND YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THE SEARCHES CAST A WIDE NET.

THE JOB MERITS IT. >> THAT'S INSIDE THE 49.

>> OKAY. >> IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. AND IS THERE A MOTION TO RATIFY THIS THE STRATEGIC GOVERNMENT RESOURCES SGR AGREEMENT.

>> FROM WHERE I SIT I RECOMMEND THE COURT APPROVE THIS ITEM.

>> AND AGAIN, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

ON THIS THE COUNTY JUDGE AND HIRES THE PERSON WHAT IS UNDER THE JUDGE. AND THE RALLY WE SET THE SALARY

THE COMMISSIONER? >> WHEN YOU SAY HIRE THE PERSON

IS ON A CONTRACT. >> THE REGULAR ONE.

, THAT'S IN THE BUDGET. IT IS SET AND, WE CAN BRING IT. THEY HAVE THE APPLICATION.

WE MAY NOT FIND ANYONE. WE DON'T FIND THEM THEY WISH TO MAKE THAT CHANGE. I DON'T WANT THIS TO GO LONG THIS IS A 60 DAY TO MAKE SURE WE CAN ON BOARD IT.

BRINGING SUN IN THEY MAY BE QUALIFIED BUT LET'S SAY THEY COME FROM ARKANSAS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THEM GEARED UP TO THE SUPER UNIQUE THEY MAY BE UNBELIEVABLE BUT

THEY WILL HAVE TO HAVE. >> THAT IS GET TO GET THE WHOLE GOAL. , JUST THE WAY AND ONE THROUGH THE HEART YESTERDAY AND YURI AND BOOSTERS HERE.

I HAD TO DO THIS. YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS SUPER FAMILIAR WITH THAT FEMA PROCESS.

THIS WILL HELP OUR COUNTY. WE HAVE TO BE READY TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO HELP THE COUNTY.

>> OKAY. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO RATIFY THE AGREEMENT AND ASK FOR A SECOND.

>> THE SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE.

NAY. >> SO YOU VOTED TO NOT RATIFY IT I JUST WANT LET THE COUNTY ATTORNEY KNOW THAT THE AGREEMENT STILL STANDS I NEED TO YOU TELL THE COURT THAT BECAUSE THEY VOTED NOT TO RATIFY IT DOES NOT MEAN THE AGREEMENT FAILS ALL THAT DOES IS, QUITE FRANKLY, CREATE AN EMBARRASSING SITUATION FOR FEMA WHEN WE PUT THIS FORWARD I WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD T IS YOUR CHOICE BUT TO TAKE CARE OF

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THE EMERGENCY AND THEN NOT TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE COURT FOR THE REASONS THAT I CANNOT QUITE FIGURE OUT.

WHEN YOU FOLLOW THE PROCESS YOU SHOULD BE REWARDED BY THE

SUPREME COURT OF THE PROCESS. >> WE DO CARE BUT WE CARE ABOUT THE RATIFICATION SOMETIMES. AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

>> IT FALLS UNDER THE EMERGENCY POWERS AND VETTED IT.

THAT'S -- THERE IS AN EMERGENCY SO YOU KNOW IT IS DONE EVERY DAY ON ALL KINDS OF THINGS IN THE INTEREST OF THE COUNTY.

ON THE RECORD AND A SEARCH FIRM ABOUT THE CONTRACT TO THE COURT. AND IT WAS NOT AN EMERGENCY TO DO THIS WITHOUT THE COURT INTERVENTION THAT YOU DO WITH THE COUNTY AND DOES. WE CAN HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION IN REGARDS TO THAT. WE HAD THE DISCUSSION OVER AND OVER ON RATIFICATIONS. THERE ARE ARE TIMES I DON'T BELIEVE THIS TIS IS -- IT IS A CONTRACT FOR A SEARCH FIRM.

SOME CAN COME. MY VOTE IS TO SAY I DON'T AGREE WITH HOW THE EMERGENCY POWERS ARE BEING USED NOT BRINGING THINGS TO THE COURT FOR US TO DECIDE.

I SUPPORT THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPOINT.

AND THAT'S NOT IN CONTENTION WE NEED A MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.

IT COULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THE COURT.

I DON'T THINK IT FALLS UNDER EMERGENCY POWERS.

>> I HEAR. THAT'S YOUR PERS PECK OF IT.

IT IS JUST A PERSPECTIVE. >> MELISSA.

>> LIFE IS A PERSPECTIVE. YOU HAVE SHARED YOURS AND YOU KNOW TO APPLY WE'RE NOT HELPING THE COUNTY.

IT'S NOT THERE. I'M SAYING CLEARLY SAID THIS CLEARLY FOR A YEAR AND A HALF I THINK THAT WE DON'T THING THINGS THAT THE COURT SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN.

>> THE LAW AND LONG TERM BASIS NOT EVERYTHING BUT SEVERAL

THINGS. >> MELISSA WANTS TO WEIGH IN

HERE. >> JUDGE AS TO THE LEGALITIES OF RATIFYING HOW THAT AFFECTS THE CONTRACT THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE, I'M NOT CERTAIN ON THAT.

WE'LL GET LEGAL ADVISORY TO YOU ON THAT.

THAT DOES NOT CHANGE HERE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE COURT NOT BEING RATIFIED. WE'LL LET YOU KNOW.

>> FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS.

THAT'S ALL IT IS FOR. WE HAVE GONE OVER THIS AND IT IS JUST A MATTER OF PERSPECTIVE.

YOU CAN SAY IT. IT DOES NOT MAKE IT SO, THEY CAN SAY THEY DON'T THINK IT IS AN EMERGENCY T IS A SUBJECTIVE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGER AND IT IS BEYOND THAT. IT IS NOT JUST THAT I HAVE THE APPOINTMENT, THE COUNTY JUDGES FROM THE GOVERNORS HAS THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE DECISIONS RELATING TO THE EMERGENCY.

SO, WHETHER IT IS A CONTRACT TO GET US A MANAGER OR WHETHER TO GET US VINYL WHICH I DID A WHILE AGO SO WE CAN OPEN THAT.

HAVE PUBLIC MESSAGING FOR THE -- WHAT THE VACCINATION CLINIC. OR WHETHER IT IS GETTING SYRINGES OR COTTON, WHATEVER T IS WHATEVER IS NECESSARY.

IF I'M A DEPARTMENT HEAD AND NEED IT IMMEDIATELY.

I'LL DO THAT IF THAT CAUSES AN EXPENSE OF X DOLLARS WITHIN THE REALM. THERE IS A DISCONNECT.

IT'S NOT NEW AND IT'S NOT NEW BUT THERE IS A LEGALITY TO IT.

IT NEEDS TO BE ARTICULATED. THEY CAN FEEL HOWEVER THEY WANT. WE'RE NOT A COURT OF EMOTION.

WE'RE A COURT OF LAW. IT ALLOWS IT.

FOLLOWED. I THINK THAT AND AND A RATIFICATION IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

>> AND THE RATIFICATION TO RECOVER THE DOLLARS.

AND THEY DON'T DO THAT. THERE NEEDS TO BE AN AWARENESS. THERE ARE FEELINGS COSTING THE COUNTY MONEY. THAT'S ALL.

>> WE ARE A COURT OF EMOTION WE'RE HUMANS AND PEOPLE.

SOMETIMES YOU ACT OUT OF LAW AND OUT OF EMOTIONS.

ARE YOU ONE OF THE MOST EMOTIONAL PEOPLE HERE TO SAY WE'RE NOT IS INACCURATE. I WOULD LIKE AN ADVISORY FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WHY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SAID THIS QUALIFIES AS AN EMERGENCY ACT THE COURT DOES NOT HAVE TO THAT'S WHAT THE JUDGE SAID YOU SAID.

I WOULD LIKE AN ADVISORY EXPLAIN TO US UNDER THE POWERS

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WHY THE ATTORNEY BELIEVES A CONTRACT FOR A SEARCH FIRM WHEN THERE WAS TIME TOE GO TO THE COURT, WHY YOU BELIEVE IT QUALIFIES AS THAT. IF COULD YOU PROVIDE THAT.

ON THE NEXT ONE, TOO. ANY OF THEM FRANKLY I'M, I DON'T THINK THAT WAS THE EXTENT.

THAT'S MY FEELING. I THINK THINK THE LAW SUPPORTS IT. I DON'T AGREE WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. AND THE ACOUNTY ATTORNEY DOESN'T AGREE WITH ME OR THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL OR THE GOVERNOR TO WEIGH IN. I DON'T THINK THE INTENT WAS THE COURT NOT TO HAVE INVOLVEMENT FOR THINGS THAT ARE TRUE EMERGENCIES AND HIRING AN ATTORNEY HIRE A MANAGER WE COULD HAVE NAMED A MANAGER LIKE A TEMPORARY ONE SAID CATHY YOU ARE THE ACTING ONE LIKE BEFORE.

WE'LL FIND UP AND THE COURT WOULD HAVE DONE THIS AND WHO KNOWS. MAYBE THE VOTES WOULD HAVE CHANGED IF WE DIDN'T DO IT AS A RATIFICATION.

I WOULD LIKE SOME REAL CLARITY FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ON THIS. IT IS SUPER CONFUSING.

PEOPLE I TALK TO AND OTHER COUNTIES DON'T AGREE WITH THIS HOW THIS WAS DONE. THEY ARE SMART PEOPLE, TOO.

I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. >> WE'LL GET AN ADVISORY ON

[Q. Ratify agreement with Stone Water Properties for leased premises Suite 100 at Crossroads District Building containing approximately 13,096 square feet.]

THAT. >> OKAY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO NUMBER, I UNDERSTAND THE

SHERIFF IS BACK. >> SHERIFF.

>> NOT THAT SEASON BACK. , HE WANTS US TO TABLE THAT.

>> OCTOBER 20TH. >> I'LL MOVE TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION. WE'LL SAY AYE.

NOW MOVE TO TABLE. GONZALES HAS THE TABLE.

I'M SECOND IT TO OCTOBER 20TH AND WORK WITH THE FUNDING

SOURCE. >> AND SO, I THINK WE MOVED THEH TO THE 18TH. THERE WAS A QUESTION BY COMMISSIONER MAREZ IRT BEING IN.

IT WILL GO FROM THE 20TH TO THE 18TH.

THAT'S THE FIRST I HEARD OF THE CONFIRMATION.

YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO FOR THE TABLE TO THE 18TH.

SAY AYE. >> LET'S GO TO STONE WATER ON A

RATIFICATION. >> LET ME ASK YOU, CAN YOU EXPLAIN I'LL ASK, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THIS COMES UNDER EMERGENCY POWERS WHEN, AGAIN, WE HAD PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES AND COURT MEETINGS ONE THE COURT COULD WEIGH IN AGAIN.

I LIKE THE VACCINE CLINIC. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS WOULD QUALIFY AS AN WHEN THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COURT TO MEET AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

>> AS YOU KNOW I'M COVERING FOR JENNY I DON'T HAVE THE INS AND OUTS. I DON'T THINK I CAN ANSWER THAT

TO YOUR SATISFACTION. >> THERE IS A CONFUSION, MELISSA IF YOU RELAY THIS AND KENT BROWN IS HERE.

AS LAWYERS THERE IS SIGNIFICANCE TO WORDS.

SO WHEN WE'RE UNDER A LOCAL DISASTER UNDER THE TECHNICAL WORD UNDER AN EMERGENCY. BUT THE WORD THE WAY IT IS USED HERE SEEMS LIKE AN EMERGENCY EVERYONE RUN OUT SOMEONE YELLED FIRE, BUT THE WAY IT IS USED IN THE PURPOSES OF A MANAGEMENT IS THAT IT IS WHATEVER IS NEEDED UNDER THE DECLARED EMERGENCY SO WE ACT SO WE CAN MOVE THE LOG OUT OF THE ROAD TAKE THE ENGINE DOWN TO THE BURNING HOUSE COME TO COURT.

THIS IS A DECISION MADE LONG AGO WHEN THEY PASSED THE ACT, IT WAS DECIDED BY THE LEGISLATURE THAT WHEN THEY PASSED THIS THEY WOULD NOT COME TO COMMITTEE SO THAT A CONTRACT

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HAD TO BE DEALT WITH TO MOVE THE LOG THE LOG IN THE ROAD.

I DON'T WANT THEM TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE IDEA IS THAT AN EMERGENCY TO GET THE CLINIC.

>> I RE THAT'S YOUR PERSPECTIVE, YOU BELIEVE THAT.

I DO NOT COMPLETE AGREE WITH HOW HOW THE POWERS ARE USED.

I DON'T SAY ARE YOU BEING EVIL ABOUT IT.

I HAVE CONCERNS AND DOUBTS ON HOW THEY ARE BEING USED NOT BECAUSE I THINK THAT YOU ARE DOING ANYTHING INTENTIONALLY BECAUSE I THINK YOU HAVE AN INTERPRETATION AND UNDERSTANDING THAT I HAVE A DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION AND UNDERSTANDING I ASKED THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

YOU'RE AT A LOSS YOU ARE COVERING THAT'S NOT A FAIR QUESTION. THAT'S FAIR.

AGAIN, I W WILL TELL YOU I WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR THIS EASILY IF YOU BROUGHT THAT IN. IT IS GREAT WE'RE DOING A CLINIC THERE AND EVERYWHERE WE CAN GO.

GET MY VOTE ON THE DISTANCE THAT WILL BE AN EXTENSION.

AND THIS TO ME IS CLOSER A CLOSER CALL I THINK WE COULD HAVE COME AND DONE IT. BUT THE LAW DOESN'T REQUIRE IT HAS TO BE DONE THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT.

A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. I UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO MY POSITION ON THIS ONE IS DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHERS

BECAUSE I IT COULD HAVE COME. >> I WOULD LIKE JENNY TO EXPLAIN TO ME IS I GET THAT. I SHARED AND COME TO US TODAY.

AND ON THINGS LIKE THIS. YOU KNOW THERE IS A MOVEMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. THE WAY WE'RE CREATED AND CRAFTING I ANTICIPATE A SLOW DOWN OF FUNCTION.

THE WAY IT IS SET UP. AN EQUAL VOTE AND OPERATED BY THE COUNTY JUDGE AND THAT THAT HAS TO IMPLEMENT THE THINGS.

KY NOT IMAGINE. WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE EVERY WEEK AND EVERY DAY TO VOTE ON EVERY DECISION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE ON ITS BEHALF. THAT'S A WASTE OF TIME.

THAT'S PUTTING A STRANGLEHOLD ON BEING ABLE TO FUNCTION AS A COUNTY. I HOPE THAT THAT CAN BE EXPLAINED THAT DIFFERENCE AND HOW MUCH ARE WE ALLOWED TO FUNCTION AND NEED TO HAVE OUR SAY IN IT.

I'LL TELL YOU NOW, I DON'T HAVE THE TIME, EFFORT OR THE CONCERN TO HAVE TO PUT EVERY DECISION BEFORE THE COURT.

EVERY DECISION THAT'S NOT HOW GOVERNMENT WORKS.

THAT'S NOT HOW IT FUNCTIONS. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THAT IS WHY

WE HAVE A LEAD ON THIS. >> OKAY.

>> THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A LEAD. >> I THINK THERE HAS TO BE A DISTINCTION OF WHAT CAN BE DONE ON OUR BEHALF WITHOUT IT COMING TO ME. I DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON WHAT IS EVERY DECISION. I DON'T.

>> WE'RE NOT. WE'RE BARELY VOTING.

JUDGE SHE DOES THIS EVERY DAY. >> I KNOW YOUR ISSUE IS DIFFERENT. I SEE YOUR PERSPECTIVE T IS, DON'T GET ME WRONG. WE NEED A CLARIFICATION ON HOW MUCH CAN BE DECIDED ON OUR HEAVILY AND WHAT IS CONSIDERED AN EMERGENCY OR COME BEFORE US. SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT YOU KNOW WHAT, WE NEED TO GET THIS SET UP.

THERE WAS A TESTING AND THERE WAS VACCINE CLINICS AT THE FAIRGROUNDS. THAT WAS JUST DECIDED.

I DON'T THINK THAT HAD TO COME FIRST.

IT WAS DIFFERENT WE'RE RESPONDING TO THE EMERGENCY, DIRECTLY TO COVID. I THINK THIS IS STILL PART OF IT. I DON'T NEED THAT.

I'M NOT ABDICATING MY RESPONSIBILITY.

WE SHOULD HAVE OUR ABILITY TO AIR OUR CONCERNS.

THERE SHOULD NOT BE FREE REIN BUT I THINK THAT THERE IS SOME SORT OF FUNCTIONALITY THAT HAS TO BE DONE.

THAT'S WHY IT IS COMING BACK TO US BUT IT COMES BACK TO VOTE ON. IF WE GET THAT CLARIFICATION

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THAT'S GOING TO HELP US A LOT. >> THAT IS A FAIR ASSESSMENT.

>> I WANT YOU AND THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THEY GET EXECUTED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. THE CHECKS AND BALANCES ARE THERE. I'M NOT SIGNING ADD WRITING MY OWN CONTRACT I'M NOT REVIEWING THEM AND NEGOTIATING THEM.

I'M QUIETING THINGS DON DONE FROM THE PUBLIC POLICY PERSPECTIVE THE WAY IT IS DONE THAT JOHN ARTICULATED SO THAT YOU, AS A COMMISSIONER, WE DON'T WASTE AN HOUR OF TIME AND FRANKLY IT DOES NOT GET DONE. LET'S SAYS I DON'T LIKE THE NIKE LOCATION. I THINK I WANT TO USE THE, TRYING TO THINK OF ANOTHER STORE OUT THERE.

THE FOREVER 21 LOCATION OUT THERE.

ANOTHER SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK THERE IS AN EMPTY SPACE IN ANOTHER CENTER DOWN THE STREET, THAT WOULD BE THE BEST. THISWAYS -- THIS IS WHY IT IS DONE. AND IT WAS NEVER MEANT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS, IT WAS NOT MET FOR 30 DAYS.

KATRINA WAS A BIT OF A GAME CHANGER ON STORMS. THAT ONE DID HAVE SOME LONGEVITY THE REASON THIS IS UNCOMFORTABLE THE LONGEVITY ITSELF.

I DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS. BUT LET ME TELL YOU WHAT IS REQUIRED. IT IS FOR US TO ACT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY. YOU FOLLOWED LAW AND WHO IS IN CHARGE. THAT'S ME AS THE MANAGER.

YOU DO EVERYTHING TO KEEP YOU INFORMED.

SINCE THE START OF THE EMERGENCY THERE WERE TWO COURTS YOU DID NOT HAVE A FULL COVID-19 REPORT OR A DISASTER FROM THE A WINTER STORM, HANNAH.

FLOODS MAY AND JULY AND NICHOLAS.

WE HAVE ALWAYS BROUGHT FORTH TONS OF INFORMATION.

IN ADDITION TO THAT. THE RAT FIZZ CAGES IS EXTRA.

THAT'S EXTRA. WE BRING IT TO KEEP YOU INFORM SOD YOU GET TO SEIZE WHAT IS GOING ON AND ASK QUESTIONS.

NNOT DENIAL DO THE QUESTIONS MATTER BUT INPUT IS TAKE NON.

WE TRY TO PIVOT AND SOMETHING IS NEEDED BUT WHAT IS NOT APPRECIATED. IS FROM THE REIMBURSEMENT IT IS HARD ENOUGH TO GET THE REIMBURSEMENT AND THE LACK OF RAT FIZZ CAGES GOING THROUGH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

GET ALL THE OPINIONS YOU WANT. SHE IS THE ONE THAT MAKES IT POSSIBLE TO GET THE CONTRACT SIGNED.

AND YOU KNOW FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS THAT I'M DOING WHAT IS NEEDED AND GET THE JOB DONE.

WRITE AN OP-ED TALK TO THE CONGRESSMAN.

WE'LL VACCINATE AND TEST AND WE'LL EJECT AND INFUSE.

WE'LL GET PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT SPOTS AND TRY TO PAY THEM BETTER WHAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IS RULE IN A WAY THAT IS NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE STATUTES GAVE US, CAN YOU FEEL DIFFERENTLY IT IS A GREAT DISCUSSION TO HAVE WITH YOUR LEGISLATURE. GO CHANGE IT.

IT WILL NOT RESULT IN HELPING PEOPLE.

>> AND AS THE COMMISSIONER SAID BUT GIVE YOU MORE COMFORT AND TO KNOW THERE SHOULD BE SOME WHAT I CALL CATEGORIES OF WHERE YOU WANT TO BRING IT. AND I TELL YOU ONE THING.

YOU HAVE NO IDEA AND DO YOU NOT HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH EFFORT GOES IN TO MAKING CERTAIN THAT WE DO THINGS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT AND BY THE BOOK AND WITH THE PROPER PROCUREMENT AND THE BACK CHANNELS AND THERE WOULD BE NO DATA IF WE DID THIS BY COMMITTEE. THERE WOULD BE NO OF ALL THE BACKGROUND THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU AND IT HAS BEEN IN AN EFFORT TO KEEP YOU AS CLUED AS POSSIBLE.

I BELIEVE THAT THE RATIFICATIONS ARE NECESSARY FOR THE REIMBURSED I ASK YOU TO RECONSIDER.

CAN YOU GET YOUR ADVISORY, YOU CAN TELL ME THAT I'M WRONG THAT I HAVE THE WRONG INTERPRETATION OF THE LAW EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING LIKE THIS WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SINCE SHE TOOK OFFICE AND THE PREVIOUS ONE BEFORE HER, CAN YOU DO ALL OF THAT. CAN YOU WRITE LETTERS WHAT I ASK IS THAT YOU RATIFY THAT WHICH IS ALREADY BEEN DONE.

>> ARE YOU ASKING US TO DO THAT.

>> FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT PART. >> THE REIMBURSEMENT TO THE COUNTY THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

>> THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT'S AN UNFAIR ARGUMENT TO MAKE.

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>> IT'S THE ONLY ARGUMENT. >> WHEN EACH TIME WE BROUGHT THIS TO THE ATTENTION ADD YET WE DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN ADVISORY AND WEIGH IN.

I THINK THAT THIS POSSIBLY COULD BE CIRCUMVENTING THE

PURCHASING ACT. >> GOODNESS.

>> THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER SAID REASONABLE ED AND NOT DO IT.

REASONABLE THINGS. THE ACT IS IN PLACE FOR A REASON. I HAVE NEVER SEEN AN ADVISORY ON THAT WE HAD THE DISCUSSIONS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF T IS TOUGH BECAUSE WE -- WE, AS A COURT.

WE HAVE ASKED FOR CERTAIN THINGS AND SAID, LOOK.

IF THE COUNTY BELIEVES THAT YOU -- CAN YOU DO THIS AND SIGNING OVER ON IT YOU WILL DO IT.

YOU WANT TO BRING THAT IN, NOT SOMETHING I'M FOR.

>> THAT'S FINE, YOU SAID WE DON'T HAVE TO BRING THAT IN FOR RATIFICATION. AND THE POSITION IS LOOK PUT US IN A POSITION TO EYE PROVE SOMETHING YOU USE THE ARGUMENT OF. LET'S RATIFY IT HAS BEEN DONE.

THAT'S THE SAME THING WE HAVE BEEN DOING OVER AND OVER AND WE

HAVE NOT GOTTEN. >> WE HAVE DONE THIS WITH EVERY

DISASTER. >> YES YOU HAVE.

>> YOU HAVE. , YOU HAVEN'T GOT IT SAYING IT

IS APPROPRIATE; AND. >> SO THAT WHEN I SEE IT ON TV. ARE YOU WORKING ON IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE COMMISSIONER IS SAYING.

LET US NOSE WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

WORKING OVER THERE AT THE FAIR GROWNS.

TO GET ENOUGH. I ASKED FOR A RECONSIDERATION AT A FUTURE DATE. KY NOT RESPOND TO THE I DON'T HAVE INFORMATION I CAN'T HELP YOU WHAT YOU DON'T REMEMBER OR WHAT YOU DON'T. YOU LITERALLY WE LITERALLY GIVE YOU SO MUCH INFORMATION EVERY SINGLE COURT.

YOU GET THEM EVERY DAY ALL KINDS OF INFORMATION THERE ARE PRESSERS EVERY WEDNESDAY. THERE IS A CLEAR DECISION EVERYONE MAKES WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO GET INVOLVED.

THE FIRST THING TO DO IS TO ASK.

ASK. IF YOU FEEL LIKE ARE YOU

MISSING SOMETHING ASK. >> I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

>> WHAT JOHN SAID IS RIGHT. I GET IT.

WE CANNOT DO EVERYTHING. I DON'T THINK WE'RE CLOSE.

THE ONLY THINGS I WEIGH IN0 ARE IF YOU SEND INFORMATION I WEIGH N IT COMES TO THE AGENDA I WAY IN.

SO, I DON'T THINK WE'RE NEAR A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE MICROMANAGING THE OPERATIONS. THERE ARE THOUSANDS.

>> THAT WOULD REQUIRE BEING HERE.

THAT'S RIGHT. ARE YOU NOT HERE FOR THE EMERGENCIES BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE STRUCTURE IS SET UP.

YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S NOT FAIR.

>> I DO HAVE A QUESTION. SEPTEMBER 13TH THROUGH THE 30TH

PAYING 7807.60. >> WHERE ARE YOU, SIR.

WHAT ARE YOU ON. THE ONE THE ITEM.

>> GREAT. >> AND THEN FROM OCTOBER 1, 21 THROUGH MARCH -- 22. 13096.

>> YES, SIR. >> IS THAT PER MONTH.

>> THIS IS UNDER FEMA PUBLIC ASSISTANCE.

100% REIMBURSABLE. WE HAVE GOTTEN THE MONEY.

WE'RE GOING TO PAY THAT AMOUNT THE FAIR MARKET VALUE WHICH IS REQUIRED UNDER THE LAW THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THE QUESTION IS, WILL WE DOING THE SAME THING WE'RE

DOING AT THE FAIRGROUNDS? >> NO, SIR.

AT THE FAIRGROUNDS WE'RE DOING RAPID INFUSIONS THROUGH IV, THAT'S REGENERON THE ANTIBODY WHEN THEY HAVE THE MILD TO MODERATE SYMPTOMS AT THE VACCINATION, THE OUTLETS, YOU HAVE THREE DIFFERENT -- THAT'S WHAT THE DOCTOR WAS TALKING ABOUT. THE JOHNSON & JOHNSON, MODERNA AND PFIZER, WE'RE DOING REGULAR VACCINES.

THIRD SHOT AND WE WILL DO THE BOOSTERS AND MOST LIKELY SINCE THE FDA HAS DISCUSSED PEDIATRIC, WE'LL DO THAT MOST

LIKELY IN THE FALL AS WELL. >> WHAT ARE WE PAYING THE

FAIRGROUNDS TO BE THERE AND -- >> THE FAIRGROUNDS, COULDN'T WE

ESTABLISH OURSELVES THERE? >> RIGHT.

YOU ASKED TWO QUESTIONS. >> SO, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE USED THE FAIRGROUNDS. THE REASON WE'RE AT THE STONE WATER. WE'RE USING EXHIBIT HALL A

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RIGHT NOW. B HAS NO AIR OR HEAT.

SO, WE DON'T GO OUTSIDE IN THE CENTER, WE TYPICALLY DON'T USE THAT. AND THE BALL ROOM A AND B.

THE GOAL IS TO KEEP IT AS AN EVENT CENTER.

WE HAVE BEEN USING BATH FROM TIME TO TIME.

IT IS SWITCHED. NOW EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE WEEK. WE ARE LOOKING FOR A MORE PERMANENT LOCATION. WE USE THE FAIRGROUNDS TO CONTINUE IN ITS MISSION TO BE A VENUE CENTER.

WE ARE BUT FOR THE RAPID INFUSION.

THAT'S GOING TO STAY UNTIL WE NO LONGER NEED INFUSIONS OR THE DEMAND IS NOT HIGH. COMMISSIONER GONZALES BROUGHT THIS UP. IT'S NOT OURS ANY MORE.

WHEN YOU LEASE YOU'RE THE OWNER BUT WHEN YOU LEASE IT, IT IS THEIRS. YOU HAVE TO PAY THEM TO USE THE PREMISES. IT'S NOT YOURS.

>> WE END UP GIVING THEM MONEY, WE DON'T GIVE ANYONE MONEY.

>> IT IS NOT A FREEBIE THING GOING ON.

WE CONTRACT WITH THEM AND WORK WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE CONTRACT. WE PAY FOR THE RIGHT TO BE THERE. THEN WE GET PAID BACK BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AGAIN IF FEMA PA WERE NOT AVAILABLE IF OUR TEAM HAD NOT APPLIED FOR THE WORKSHEET AND GOT THE 5 MILLION. MAYBE THERE WOULD BE MORE OF A CONCERN WHAT IS THE RIGHT LOCATION.

THE CONCERN IS VACCINES IN ARMS. WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO BE AS EXCITED, AS GOOD AS THE NUMBERS ARE, WE'RE LOSING PEOPLE EVERY DAY.

WE'RE 80 PEOPLE ON VENTS. THIS SHOULD NOT BE UP FOR DEBATE. IT IS AN EMERGENCY.

THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND WORKING WITH THE CITY, COUNTY, PUBLIC HEALTH IMMEDIATE TO MAKE THE DECISIONS IN THE BEST INTEREST. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS AND IN A STRANGE WEIRD WAY THE LEASE IS ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH INSIDE AN EMERGENCY AND SHOULD NOT BE UP TO DEBATE TO MAKE THINGS BETTER. I KNOW BETTER I KNOW HOW THE COURT FEELS ABOUT THINGS AFTER LIVING WITH YOU FOR A WHILE.

I HAVE CREATED OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COUNTY TO GET MONDAY IN ADVANCE. VERY FEW DID THAT.

IT TAKES WORK. WE DID.

THAT NOW I CAN TURN TO YOU ON EITHER SAID AND SAY, IF WE DO THIS UNDER THE EMERGENCY CAN YOU REST ASSURED IT IS QUALIFIED. ELIGIBLE, VETTED THE CONTRACT WE HAVE THE MONEY IN THE ACCOUNT TO PAY OURSELVES BACK.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH BETTER IT GETS.

IF YOU TELL ME HOW TO DO IT BETTER.

>> I'LL WAIT FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OPINION.

>> VOTED ON ONE ITEM. >> WE DID IT.

>> WHAT WE DID WE PIVOTED TO ANOTHER -- TO THE VACCINE.

WE WENT BACK TO THE CONCEPT OF RATIFICATION.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE WE NEED TO RATIFY.

WE DON'T NEED. >> WE VOTED ON THE RATIFIED NOT TO STONE WATER. WE DO NEED A, A MOTION ON THE $2 MILLION. THAT MONEY IS THERE.

WE STILL HAVE TO -- IT HAS TO BE APPROVED AND, EVERYTHING APPLIED TO THE 2 MILLION BEEN REIMBURSED.

ARE WE CAUGHT UP. WHERE ARE WE ON THAT THIS IS THE CONTRACT. WE HAVE TO SUBMIT OUR REPORTS FOR VERIFICATION AND THAT THE JUDGE SAID ED MONEY IS IN THE ACCOUNTS. THEY ARE THERE AND QUALIFYING FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT. THE FUNDS ARE THERE WE NEED TO

MAKE SURE THEY ARE VETTED. >> HAVE WE VETTED EVERYTHING.

>> WE'RE IN THE PROCESS. AND THINGS HAVE BEEN SENT

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THROUGH THROUGH THE WE'RE WAITING FOR THEM TO DO THEIR

FOUR-STEP APPROVAL. >> TO I THOUGHT WAS REPRESENTED, THE MONEY IS THERE.

THE PROJECTS ARE VETTED. THEY HAVE BEEN SIGNED OFF ON SO DO WE NOT -- SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE WAITING ON.

WE'RE WAITING. >> THEY HAVE TO DO THE FINAL

APPROVALS. >> HAS TIDUM THEY WILL APPROVE THAT. HOW TO WE KNOW THEY WILL

APPROVE THEM? >> , YOU HAVE TOE WORK WITH GRANTS AND THE JUDGE WORKS WITH THEM IN QUALIFYING THIS IN THE

CONTEXT. >> YOU ASK THE AUDITOR BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT THE AUDITOR'S ROLE IS DISTINCT THAN WHAT OUR ROLE IS AND IF WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE A PART OF THE NEXT CALL WE'LL PUT YOU ON IT WITH PLEASURE CAN YOU ASK MARIA WE CAN GO INTO THAT. THERE IS ANOTHER ITEM, HAGERTY SO YOU KNOW ON VACCINES WHEN IT CAME TO THE FAIRGROUNDS WE DID AN ADVANCE PROJECT WORKSHEET. AND MARIA CAN GIVE YOU INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. SINCE I'M THE ONE THAT PUTS IT FORWARD I'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT PROJECT WORKSHEET WAS COMMIT SUBMITTED TO FEMA WE GOT 2.4 MILLION DOLLARS ADVANCED

FUNDING 50% OF OUR FUNDING. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> WAIT A SECOND. >> YOU EXPLAINED THAT.

>> HE IS THE ONE WHO HAS TO ACCOUNT FOR THE DOLLARS.

>> YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS THAT'S WHY YOU ASK THE

WRONG PERSON. >> I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.

>> YOU DON'T. >> I DO.

>> IF YOU DO YOU WOULD NOTE BE ASKING.

>> JUDGE, THE REASON ICAL I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE OPINION IS I'M ASKING THE AUDITOR BECAUSE THE AWOR IS THE PERSON AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT HAS TO CERTIFY FOR THE COUNTY EVERY DOLLAR WE SPEND. THAT'S THE PROCESS NOT JUST.

>> RIGHTS. >> BUT EVERY DOLLAR.

>> GUESS WHAT. >> LET ME FINISH.

>> I'LL ASK HIM GO AHEAD HE AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND THE GRANTS PERSON SHE CAN TELL ME. BUT THE END OF THE DAZE THAT MAN IS AN AUDITOR BECAUSE HE DIDN'T REPORT TO US.

HE DOESN'T REPORT TO YOU, ME, THE COURT SEASON APPOINTED BY

THE JUDGES. >> I'M ONE OF THE JUDGES.

>> GREAT THAT'S GREAT. YOU ARE ONE OF THEM.

>> THAT MEANS THAT HE'S AN INDEPENDENT AUDITOR AND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SIGNING OFF ON EVERY DOLLAR.

I WILL ASK HIM. >> THAT'S FINE.

>> HE TELLS ME IT IS VETTED AND PREAPPROVEDS.

>> HE DOESN'T GET INVOLVED WITH THE VETTING WHAT I'M

EXPLAINING. >> HE SAID AN ADEQUATE WAY TO SPEND THE DOLLARS THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO HEAR.

HE SAYS WE DON'T HAVE IT BACK YET I MAY GO TO MARIA DO WE HAVE IT BACK WHAT IS THE SITUATION I'M ALWAYS GOING TO ASK THE AUDITOR I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS AND FAMILIAR HOW THE WORLD WORKS I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE FACT HE IS THE GUY HIS STAFF ARE THE ONES THAT I'M GOING TO RELY ON WHERE THE MONEY IS AND SPENT CORRECTLY.

IF IT'S NOT IT IS ON HIM HE KNOWS IT AND IT IS ON US.

THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING HIM AND WILL ASK HIM.

>> RIGHT. I WANT TO GET THE ANSWERS

FROM. >>> OKAY.

>> GREAT. >> HOLD ON ONE SECOND, COMMISSIONER. MARIA IF YOU WANT WE CAN WE GET INTO THE I THINK OTHER ITEM HERE WE CAN GET YOU TO MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT IT. BUT I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DO HAVE A WORKSHOP SO YOU GUYS CAN TRULY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS BECAUSE WE KEEP BRINGING YOU THE INFORMATION WITH HAGERTY AND GIVING YOU THE INFORMATION.

WE BRING POWER POINTS. YOU'RE NOT READING IT.

>> JUDGE, WE'RE READING IT. WE DON'T AGREE WITH YOUR

ASSESSMENT. >> YOU DON'T REMEMBER.

>>> YOU'RE NOT READING. >> WOULD YOU UNDERSTAND.

>> I DON'T AGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT.

>> VERY CLEAR. >> WE KNOW WHERE YOU ARE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME

TALK. >> THANK YOU.

>> THE 2 MILLION WE HAVE. WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN THERE.

>> YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT IT WE'LL GET THERE.

, THERE IS A REPORT I'M READING SHE SUBMITS THE REPORT WHAT WE HAVE QUALIFIED FOR AND WE HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR.

THE PORTION IS THAT WE GET INVOICES THAT ARE APPROVED BY THE JUDGE SAID WE GET PREAPPROVAL OF THIS FOR THE SAYING IT IS QUALIFYING. WE MUST PAY FOR IT AND SUBMIT THE REPORTS TO FEMA AND THE FINAL APPROVALS.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE BALANCE OF THE 2 MILLION IS

RIGHT NOW. >> YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT.

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>> AND REQUESTED FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

>> JUST SO YOU KNOW WE'RE HAPPY, YOU GET THAT ALL THE TIME. YOU GET THAT ALL THE TIME, BY THE BAY HERE IS THE OTHER THING.

>> IT'S NOT CLEAR. >> IT IS VERY CLEAR THIS IS THE PROBLEM. YOU REALLY, WE NEED MARIA A WORKSHOP. OKAY.

BECAUSE THE REQUEST FOR REIMBURSEMENTS IS THE PROPER WAY WE SOLICIT THE DOLLARS IN FINAL FORM TO REPRESENTS THE FEMA. THERE IS A PORTAL.

WHEN WE PUT THIS FORWARD. YOU CANNOT SUBMIT IT IN ADVANCE. LET'S TAKE THE CONTRACT.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE CONTRACT SIGNED YOU HAVE TO PAY.

WE HAVE TO GET CANCELED CHECKSKY NOT SAYS IN ADVANCE, OH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONTRACT IN 60 DAYS COST THIS MUCH. APPROVE IT.

IT DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY. WE GET HAVING SAID THAT WHAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WE STARTED THE PROCESS IT WAS FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS A SCOPE MODIFICATION.

IT MUST HAVE BEEN SAID AND THE REASONS WE NEEDED IT.

THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING ASSETTED RIGHT NOW.

THERE IS A TON OF PAPERWORK. IF YOU ARE ASKING WHETHER OR NOT THAT THIS THEY ARE PART OF PUBLIC ASSISTANCE YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE AN EXPERT YOU NEED TO READ.

OUR READING OF THE FEMA PA THERE IS A THANK YOU IT IS NEVER GOING TO COME NO GOOD DIED EVER GOES UP PUNISHED.

WE DID WHAT THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI DID NOT DO, WE DID WHAT OUR SOUTH TEXAS COUNTIES DID NOT DO WE KNOW THE COURT AND GET THEM IN ADVANCE. , WE ARE BANKING OUR, ON THE AGAIN IS AN OUTSIDE AUDITOR TO HELP US WITH AMERICAN RELIEF PLAN ACT. WE HAVE HAGERTY.

WE EXECUTE SOMETHING UNDER THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, COVID-19 BUT PARTICULARLY FOR COVID-19. WE HAVE AN AD NAUSEAM CONVERSATION. MARIAS ON EVERY CALL WITH TEN OTHER PEOPLE. THAT'S THE TIME AND EFFORT GOES TO IT. THE EXCEPTION THAT IS BEING -- THE INSINEW WAGES THAT WE'RE NOT GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND WE'RE GOING TO INTINTY AND BEYOND AND NICE TOE HAVE THAT UNDERSTANDING LET'S GIVE THEM A HUGE WORKSHOP MAKE IT TWO DAYS BECAUSE THEY LOVE TO BE HERE MAKE IT EIGHT HOURS EVERY DAY YOU WILL BEGIN TO HAVE A LITTLE MICROUNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN GOING TORE TWO YEARS.

TWO YEARS WE HAVE BEEN AT THIS WE BROUGHT BACK MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO THE COUNTY. MILLIONS.

BUT YOU GO AHEAD WE WANT TO EDUCATE YOU THE MORE YOU KNOW THE LESS IMPACT IT HAS ON OUR TEAM EVERY TIME THERE IS A SITUATION THAT COMES UP FOR RATIFICATION.

>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION IS IT ABOUT YOU.

THE ONE WE'RE ON. >> Q.

>> ON Q. IS IT ON Q.

>> YOU WERE ADDRESSING IT I GOT LOST IN THE CONVERSATION OVER THERE. WHAT WAS THE REASON WE COULD NOT USE THE FAIRGROUNDS. USE THAT AND REIMBURSE, YOU KNOW,0

PAYING OUT THE QUESTION. >> THE RICK.

>> THE RAPID INFUSION CONSIDER. >> THERE IS NOT ANOTHER.

>> THAT WAS ADEQUATE. >> THAT WAS TWO THINGS.

>> THERE WAS NOT. WE FOR TWO YEARS. AND I CAN DID NOT SELECT THE LOCATION. THE SELECTION WAS MADE BY THE CITY COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH. DEEMED TO BE ADEQUATE ON THE THINGS WE KNOW THE REASON THE LAW PRODUCTS US BECAUSE GOD FORBID WE HAD PEOPLE NOT EXPERTS IN PUBLIC HEALTH

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CHOOSING PLACES FOR US THAT WOULD BE DANGEROUS TO PUBLIC HEALTH. THAT'S WHY IT IS CHOSEN BY PEOPLE WHO ARE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND MY JOB TO GET THEM WHAT THEY NEED TO SAVE LIVES.

WE LOVE THE FAIRGROUNDS BUT IT IS BEING USED.

IF WE GET EXHIBIT HALL B AIR CONDITIONED.

THAT WOULD BE A GREAT THING. WE HAVE A GRANT FOR THAT

WORKING RIGHT NOW. >> JUDGE JUST TO CLARIFY WE'RE

STILL ON Q. >> YES, WE'RE STILL ON Q.

>> I DIDN'T SEE AN ATTACHMENT. ANY BACKUP FOR THAT.

I DON'T HAVE A BACKUP ATTACHMENT FOR THAT AGREEMENT.

>> I'M GOING TO ASK MICHAEL. HE IS LOOKING FOR IT I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW. I'LL TAKE THE MOTION AND SECOND THEN WE CAN BE ON A PAUSE. A MOTION TO APPROVE STONE WATER SO ECAN HAVE OUR VACCINATION. OCCURRING THERE RIGHT NOW I MIGHT ADD. THANK YOU APPRECIATE THAT.

HAPPY TO TABLE IT IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT.

, WE CAN STILL HOLD IT. WE'LL DO A HOLD UNTIL LATER IN THE AFTERNOON. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET A PAUSE IT IS 1:30. NO ONE HAD A BREAK OR WATER BREAK AND SO LET'S SEE IF WE CAN FINISH THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> WE WERE GOING TO LET THE DOCTOR.

I NEED TO TAKE A BREAK TO GO TO THE BATHROOM IF THAT IS A

ALREADY WITH EVERYONE. >> R IS THE TASB CONTRACT

[R. Authorize TASB BuyBoard Contract No. 631-20 purchase with Pro-Tech Mechanical for HVAC repairs at RMB Fairgrounds.]

631-20 FOR PROTECT. >> THAT WAS MINE HVAC.

THE QUESTION I HAVE ON THIS ONE IS SINCE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DISCUSSING WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR SUBSTITUTIONS WAS A SUBSTITUTION PROJECT AND THE HVAC SYSTEM WAS AT THE FAIRGROUNDS. THAT WAS RELATED TO THIS.

SHOULD WE NOT HOLD UNTIL WE SEE HOW THAT COMES ABOUT.

THEY WILL BRING BACK SOMETHING SOON WITH.

>> I THINK JUAN VETTED THIS, THAT IS A BETTER DEAL FOR THE COUNTY. THAT'S BECAUSE, REMEMBER UNDER EMERGENCY SAVINGS THEY HAVE TO GO HIGHER.

THIS IS THE DIRECT CONTRACTOR ON THIS.

YOU RECEIVE A DIVIDEND ON THE BACKSIDE AND DRIVE THE COST

UP. >> AND INITIALLY A PROPOSAL WAS GIVEN TO PERFORM THE TASK AND IN COMPARISON AND ASKED FOR A PROPOSAL FROM THE COST REFERENCE WAS 15 150,000.

SO WITH THE SAVING ABOUT. >> SO.

DOES THIS THEN TAKE OUT THE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SCOPE IS GOING TO PROPOSE TO US BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE PRONING, TAKING SOME OUT DOWN THE ROAD.

THAT'S A 2 MILLION-DOLLAR PROJECT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET ENERGY SAVINGS OFF.

I AM TRYING NOT TO, YOU KNOW, HELP US IS $225,000.

>> AND 225,000. >> AND.

>> THE OTHER PROPOSE 400,000. I'M SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW --

>> I DON'T WANT TO, HELP US AND HURT US ON THE OTHERS IN ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE PROJECTS IF WE DO THIS.

WILL THEY HAVE PROJECTS THAT WILL SUBSTITUTE IN FOR THE ON THE ENERGY SAVINGS SIDE WE HAD WITH THEM.

I WANT TO -- >> I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ANSWER

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THAT. WE'RE TRYING TO KIND OF DEAL WITH THAT AND PAUSE ON THAT AND DO THAT.

>> WOULD YOU NOT WANT TO CAUSE $150,000 SAVINGS NOT TO BE

HAD? >> AND IF THAT IS 150,002,000,000. IT'S NOT.

I DON'T KNOW. AND THE ATTORNEY IS WHO SAID HOE BROUGHT THIS SAY YOU MAY WANT TO PAUSE.

WE'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH ABM AND TALKED TO YOU, SHE WAS NOT HERE. I'M TELLING YOU I'M CONFUSED WHERE TO GO ON THIS, I DON'T WANT TO NOT HAVE A PROJECT WITH ABM THAT HELPS US THERE AND WE HAVE TAKEN OUT SOME OF THE ABILITY TO SCOPE AND INCLUDE IT IN THE BIGGER PROJECT THAT

THEY'RE DOING. >> BUT YOU LOSE $200,000.

NOT QUITE. YOU LOSE ABOUT $150,000.

>> IF THEY COULD NOT ADJUSTMENT.

THAT'S CORRECT. IF THEY WERE ABLE TO ADJUSTMENT BASED ON THIS SCOPE AND INCLUDE IT WITH THE OTHER PARTS OF THE PLAN WE MAY HAVE MORE SCOPE TO DEAL WITH IN REGARDS TO SUBSTITUTE THE ABM ENERGY SAVINGS.

YOU'RE RIGHT. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH OFFING

WE MAY THINK OF HOLDING ON IT. >> LET ME FIND THE E-MAIL.

>> IF I CAN SAY ANYTHING ABM DOES NOT HAVE A PROPOSAL READY TO GO BUT THAT MAY BE READY BY THE NIX COURT.

I THINK THE HVACS REPRESENT TWO UNITS.

THEY ARE NOT LARGE. >> AND.

>> THIS CASE AND, ARE YOU NEVER GOING TO GET ENERGY SAVINGS OFF THE UNITS TO SATISFY WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

SOMEONE NEEDS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT MECHANICS.

THEY HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED. AND PROTECT CAN GIVE US A BETTER VALUE. ALL WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT BIZARRE. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING. DON'T CHANGE THE SUBJECT MATTER BECAUSE THE SUBJECT MATTER IS DISTINCT AND MAY OR MAY NOT MATERIALIZE. WE HAVE THREE OPPORTUNITIES THAT NEED REPLACING AND A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO REPLACE THEM AT A VALUE FOR THE COWARD AND THAT HAS A FUNDING SOURCE THAT IS TO THE CONTINGENCY FUND AT THE FAIR GROUNDS.

>> IT'S NOT CHANGING IT T IS DISCUSSING THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE WHAT I'M SAYING IS AND BASICALLY YOU KNOW IF IT IS EASIER UPDATE THE COURT WHAT IS IN PROGRESS AND PULL THE ITEM.

AND WHAT I'M SAY SOMETHING THAT THIS IS NOT TO COVER IT BUT THE 1.9 MILLION AND THEY MAY COME DOWN ON THE SCOPE THEY SEE THE PRICES AND WE STILL GET THE SAME VALUE BUT IT IS PART OF THE CONTRACT THAT AT THIS POINT THEY HAVE INDICATED THEY'RE WILLING TO LET IT MATERIALIZE THAT'S WHAT THE COURT VOTED

FOR. >> MY CONCERN, BRENT, THAT IT MAKES SENSE AS LONG AS THE VALUE IS THE SAME.

THE VALUE IS NOT THE SAME. YOU DON'T KNOW COULD YOU GO BACK AND SAY. THIS IS WHAT THEY SCOPED IT AS PART OF THE ENERGY SAVINGS, THEY SAY YES OR NO.

WE BRING THAT I WANT -- I HEAR YOU.

I HEAR YOU. BUT NOW ARE YOU SAYING WOULD YOU WAIT ANOTHER MONTH. THAT'S OCTOBER 20TH.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW THE MEETING WE HAVE THAT BIG OF A GAP THAT'S WHY THEY ARE SO LONG BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH GAP IN BETWEEN. I'M HAPPY TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING BEFORE THE 18TH. I WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER ABM IS SAYING THEY CAN COME BACK IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

I WANT TO GET THAT RESOLVED. AND.

>> I WANT LET'S HAVE THE WORKSHOP I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.

>> GRATE GREAT. BRING POP TARTS WE'LL BE GREAT. THAT'S ALL YOU NEED JUST ANOTHER MEETING. LET'S MAKE CERTAIN, JUAN.

WE'RE ARTICULATING TELL THE COURT AGAIN WHAT THESE ARE

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THREE AIR CONDITIONERS. >> THREE UNITS, JUDGE.

>> YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS WHAT AGAIN.

>> OUR PUBLIC WORKS TO AWARD THE CONTRACT TO PRO TECH.

$150,000 SAVINGS. $150,000 SAVINGS I'LL CALL THE VOTE IF YOU WANT TO VOTE AGAINST IT.

>> MAKE A I MADE A MOTION TO TABLE FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS SO WE CAN GET THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TALK TO ABM ANY COMMON GROUND.

>> GO AHEAD. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COURT IS AWARE SO YOU ARE UNDERSTANDING IT IS IN THE KITCHEN AND CONCESSION AREA. THE KITCHEN OF THE FAIRGROUNDS AND I KNOW THOSE EMPLOYEES HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT THE CONDITIONS THEY ARE WORKING UNDER RIGHT NOW.

>> THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE. LOOK THIS IS NOT GOING TO GET YOU WHAT YOU NEED. WE'RE ALL INTERESTED IN WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO PROPOSE, IF ANYTHING, THEY DON'T HAVE TO PROPOSE ANYTHING. IF THEY DO, TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS COMPROMISING WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS HAS ALREADY VETTED AND PROGRAM MANAGER HAS VETTED. THIS IS THE BETTER VALUE.

>> OR TAKING OUT THE ABILITY TO PUT SOMETHING FORWARD.

>> TO HAVE IT COST MORE MONEY, AND NOT LET THEM BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE PRESENTATION. I'M SAYING MOTION TO TABLE I'LL MEET NEXT WEEK AND GET THIS RESOLVED.

>> I THINK THAT'S A BIG MISTAKE BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS FORCE AN ITEM ON THE ABM IS FULLY AWARE THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR A LONG TIME. THISWAYS NOT IN THE ORIGINAL SCOPE. WE ASKED THEM TO SEIZE IF THEY COULD COME UP WITH A BID. IT WAS NOT RECOMMENDED.

WE WENT TO THE DIRECT SOURCE FOR IT.

THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO U IF YOU WANT TO TACKLE EXHIBIT HALL B OR SOMETHING ELSE. THAT'S NOT GOING TO PROVIDE ENERGY SAVINGS. BUT IT MAY BE WORTHY OF SAYING WHETHER OR NOT THE THREE UNITS WOULD AMOUNT TO ENERGY SAVINGS, CAN WE GET THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

SHE SENT ME THE DEAL. CAN WE HOLD ON THIS GET THE ATTORNEY ON THE LINE. I'M SORRY SHE IS NOT HERE.

YOU'RE AND IN A BAD SPOT. YOU HAVE TO HELP US WHEN SHE IS NOT HERE, THAT'S NOT RUDELY. I HAVE TO GET HER ON THE PHONE SUGGESTED WE PULL IT UNTIL WE SEE WHAT THE DEAL IS.

SHE. >> ILL THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.

I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE ONLY THING I WANT TO YOU KNOW WHEN SHE SEES IT FOR ME, TOO. I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION SHE ASKED. WHAT I'M HEAR TO TELL YOU THE NATURE OF THE WORK SHOULD NOT BE HELD HOSTAGE.

I'LL PAUSE WE CAN TALK TO HER. SHE SAW IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY.

WE DID, TOO. WE VETTED IT WE'RE TELLING THE COURT WHEN PUBLIC WORKS AND VETTED IT I SAID THIS IS A GREAT SUBSTITUTE. NO IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE GOT TO GET THE WORK DONE. IT IS CHEAPER, SHE CAN CLEAR IT UP. LET'S GET HER ON THE PHONE.

>> WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON THEN.

>> WE'RE NOT TABLING WE'RE GOING TO HOLD.

[P. Authorize execution of renewal with Aetna Life Insurance Company under Boon-Chapman Benefits Administrators for RFP No. 3109-19 Aggregate and Specific Re-Insurance (Stop Loss) as part of the employee Health Plan of medical & pharmacy benefits.]

>> JUDGE THERE WAS ONE OTHER ITEM THAT YOU WANTED TO BE

PULLED WHICH IS P. >> LETTER P.

>> P THIS IS FOR THE STOP LOSS INSURANCE.

WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS. >> WE HAVE TO REDO THAT ONE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, WE ALREADY APPROVED, HAVE WE APPROVELED ALL THE OTHERS. WE DID I NEED TO WITHDRAW P AT THIS TIME FOR RECONSIDERATION. I'LL NEED A SECOND THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE.

>> OKAY. EVERYONE ELSE AYE.

>> SO KARA CAN NOSE WE'RE GOOD TO GO.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH P. >> IT IS SIMPLE.

>> YOU HAVE THREE OPTIONS TO PICK FROM.

AND YOU NEED TO PICK UNI RECOMMEND THE LAST ONE ON THE

RIGHT OF THE ATTACHMENT. >> THE REASON IS WHY I RECOMMEND THAT IS THAT -- YOU HAVE THREE LARGE CLAIM AS YEAR SO WE CAN PRETTY MUCH BE ASSURED OF THAT.

IC ABOUTING UP THE THIRD OPTION ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PROJECTION THERE. GET THE PAYINGS LESS PREMIUM BUT ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE A HIGHER RISK BUT THAT RISK IS EQUAL OR LOWER THAN THE FIRST OPTION.

SO YOU ARE BETTER OFF GOING WITH THE THIRD.

I MET WITH DALE ASHLEY A WEEK AGO.

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THAT'S WHAT I DISCUSSED WITH THEM.

>> I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE CAN CONCUR IN THE DISCUSSIONS.

THE OTHER REASON THAT I'M I HAVE TO LET THEM KNOW WHICH OPTION AND THIS EXPIRES TODAY. AND THEY WILL REWRITE THE

PREMIUMS. >> CAN WE CALL OPTION 3.

>> OPTION 3 THAT DOES THAT MEAN WITH EVERYONE'S APPROVAL AND

QUESTIONS FOR TOMAS (. >> DALE, DO YOU CONCUR.

A MOTION TO SELECT OPTION 3 ON ITEM P WITH REGARDS TO THE, I GUESS THE STOP LOSS REINSURANCE.

, I HAVE THE SECOND. SAY AYE.

>> I WOULD LIKE THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, I'M ASK THE CLERK TO GET THAT AND TAKE IT OUT OF ORDER THAT CAN BE DONE.

, I RECOGNIZE THAT DR. WILMONT YOU ARE NEXT.

HEALTH SNEEDS CIVICS. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT, I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND. I KNOW YOU HAVE A PHONE AND WORKING AND WELCOME TO USE OUR OFFICES IF YOU NEED ANYTHING WE'RE GOING TO TAKE YOU OUT OF ORDER BUT TAKE A TEN MINUTE BREAK SO THAT SOME OF US CAN GRAB OUR A SANDWICH WE PROVIDED. GRAB IT AND EAT AT THE DESK OR A FAST EATER, I DON'T KNOW. WE'RE OFF THE RECORD AT FOR THE CLERK 1:47.

>> HOW LONG. >> TEN.

WE HAVE ANOTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY AND SHE DOES NEED TO GO. I DO BELIEVE THAT ALTHOUGH I

[22. Discuss and consider approval of Interlocal agreement between Nueces County and Nueces County Drainage District #2 with cleaning out CR 67 & 69 ditches and culvert maintenance (Petronila area) for proper storm water flow and alleviate flooding.]

HAVE BEEN PROVEN THONG. NUMBER 22 IS A DRAINAGE DISTRICT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH NUECES COUNTY WITH THE E AND THIS IT FOR DITCHES AND THE UL MAIT GOAL OF ALLEVIATING FLOODING AND SARA GARCIA -- THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF' LEAVEATING KNEADING AND SAIR YA GARCIA IS HERE TO TELL US EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER. I'LL LET MER CONFIRM THAT.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO WORK ON IT OURSELVES AND THE COMMISSIONER GONZALES HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY TO GET SOME FLOOD RELIEF THERE. WE'RE CLEANING THE DITCHES IN THE AREA. WE WOULD LIKE TO GO AND CLEAN OUT THE AREA THAT DOES NOT BELONG TO THE DISTRICT AND THE COUNTY BUT TO TX DOT BUT ONE TIME TO CLEAN IT SO WE CAN RELIEVE THE WATER. WE ARE KLINEING OUR AREA IT WILL NOT DO ANY GOOD IF THEY DO NOT.

WE WANT TO MAKE IT COMPLETE. >> THE DOCUMENT WE HAVE BEEN TROYED HAS BEEN VETTED. THE FUNDING SOURCE IS THE

COMMISSIONER GONZALES' FUNDS. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> AND THE DIFFERENCE WILL BE PICKED UP NUECES COUNTY

DRAI DRAINAGE. >> ALLOWING US TO GET ON THE

PROPERTY. >> WE LOOKED AT EVERYTHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND MOVE FORWARD.

>> THAT'S GREAT. >> JUST TO TELL US THE TIME LINE. WE SIGN THIS YOU CAN START WORK

QUICKLY? >> IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS.

>> AND OKAY, GREAT. TO GET WITH THE CONTRACTOR.

>> AND TAKE, THEY TOLD ME DEPENDING ON THE WEATHER.

I KNOW THE CONTRACT WILL BE COMPLETED BEFORE DECEMBER BUT I -- I PROJECT THREE WEEKS AT THE MOST T IS JUST A MATTER OF GETTING THE ONE CALLS DONE AND NO PIPELINES IN THE AREA.

>> AND THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT.

ONE AGREEING IN THE BUT AISLE AS HAVE HIM SAY HE IS AGREEING,

I WANT TO HEAR IT. >> YOU AGREE.

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>> I DO. >> AND THAT CASE DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS. SECOND AND IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AT ALL? YES, COMMISSIONER.

DO YOU. >> I JUST -- A GENERAL IZED QUESTION, I KNOW THAT WE HAD AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BEFORE IT

INCLUDES TX DOT. >> WE HAVE A GENERAL INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BUT WE DO INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS PER PROJECT THAT WAY INCH IS AWARE OF THAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT IS GETTING DONE.

>> I NOW CAN YOU WORK WITH THE AUDITOR.

HE HAS PROTOCOLS ABOUT SENDING THE INVOICE AND HAVING THE DOCUMENT. WE HAD IT UNDER CONSENT EARLIER AND ONE OF MY ITEMS AND REIMBURSING YOU ALL WAS THE 44

ALMOST 45,000. >> THAT WAS AN EMERGENCY

THING. >> , WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE AUDITOR AND THAT SITUATION AND SENDING IN THE INVOICES AND

GETTING THE REIMBURSEMENTS. >> AND, DALE.

ALTHOUGH THIS DOES NOT FALL UNDER IT. IT IS IMPORTANT WHEN WE GET THE SITUATIONS LIKE THE ONE THE COMMISSIONER WAS TALKING ABOUT. IF WE DECLARE IT.

WE NEED TO HAVE AN ACCOUNTING OF IT.

WE DON'T NOSE BUT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET SOME

RELIEF THROUGH THE STATE. >>> I KNOW IT WILL BE THAT 45,000 IT IS ALLOCATED TO A CODE EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT FEES MA DECLARED. IF WE DECLARE IT THE FLOODS.

>> I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

MAKE SURE OF THAT ACTUALLY GETS CODED CORRECTLY.

>> I MEAN IF THERE IS NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

WE CAN MAYBE GET YOU TO YOUR WORKSHOP.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE.

>> GREAT. JUST KEEP US UP TO DATE.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO MAKE A DISCUSSION IT MAY HAVE A SMALL COST TO IT. GIVEN THAT THAT PARTICULAR AREA HAS BEEN HIT VERY HARD. SOME SORT OF A SIGNAGE THAT

SAYS THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW. >> THIS A TX DOT EASEMENT WITH THE CONGRESSES AND WE HAVE IMPROVING A SIGN THAT COULD

BE -- >> PUT FORTH PEOPLE NOSE THAT LOOK THEY MAY SAY WHY HAVEN'T THEY DONE THIS.

IT WAS NOT IN OUR JURISDICTION.

WE WORKED IT OUT AND THAT COULD BE IMPORTANT.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. ILL.

>> SUPER NOW WE'LL CALL ON. THAT WAS ITEM.

LET ME DOUBLE CHECK THAT. ADVANCE OF 9 AND DR. WILMON THE

[9. Receive information on Nueces County participation in summer 2021 Department of Defense Innovative Readiness Training (IRT).]

INNOVATIVE READINESS TRAINING. >> THANK YOU, I WAS ASKED TO GIVE YOU A UPDATE ON WHAT TRANSPIRED.

THE TRAINING THAT WE QUICKLY PUT TOGETHER IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC AND EXECUTED AND JUMPED BACK INTO THE PANDEMIC, THIS PROGRAM DESERVES MORE POMP AND CIRCUMSTANCE OUTSIDE OF A PANDEMIC. WE DID A LOT OF GREAT THING OUT THERE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COURT IS AWARE OF WHAT HAPPENED.

I WANT TO GIVE A PERSPECTIVE FROM THE HEALTH DEMOCRAT ASPECT. THERE IS MORE PARTS TO IT SUCH AS CIVIL ENGINEERING AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A PART IN AND THE COMMISSIONER WILL SPEAK TO YOU ON.

AND MR. JUAN RAMIREZ ABOUT THE VETERINARY SERVICES PROVIDED OUT THERE AS WELL. SO WHAT THE READINESS TRAINING

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WAS A UNIQUE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE ARMY RESERVE, TEXAS A&M AND NUECES COUNTY AND OURSELVES UNDER YOU.

AND IT IS A MISSION TO PROVIDE RESOURCES TO THE RULE AREAS AND PROVIDING TRAINING FOR THE MILITARY. IT IS A WIN-WIN FOR ALL PARTIES ARE. THE RESOURCES WERE MEDICAL AND DENTAL, ENGINEERING AND CIVIL AFFAIRS.

WE HAD AN ARM OUT THERE. 320 PLUS MILITARY MEMBERS OUT THERE. AT LEAST 28 OF MY OWN STAFF OUT THERE. AND THE NUECES COUNTY STAFF WERE OUT THERE. 15 NURSING STAFF FROM UNIVERSITIES. WHO VOLUNTEERED AND MADE THIS SUCCESSFUL. I'LL GET INTO THAT AND WE TOOK THE LEAD ON THE MISSION AND IT WAS TO PROVIDE THE DETERMINE WHAT THE NEEDS ARE REMEMBER THEM TO THE TREATMENTS, WE HAD STUFF AVAILABLE. ADD WE HAD AND WOMEN'S HEALTH.

GREAT STUFF WE CAN GET THEM AND BETTER IF THAT SERVICE WAS NOT AVAILABLE THERE. WE WERE -- THEY WERE ABLE TO REVEAL THEM HOME AND HERE AND THE HEALTH CLINIC E AND WELLNESS. OTHER RESOURCES WE USED TO REFER THEM SAY YOU NEED HELP THAT'S NOT PROVIDED ON SITE.

WE'LL GET YOU THERE. WE CONDUCTED THIS IN THE MIDDLE OF JUNE TO THE 24TH. NINE DAYS, FIVE SIGHTS THROUGH THE AREA. WE HAD BISHOP SENIOR SYSTEM AND IN ROBSTOWN AND THEN A SMALL CHURCH.

AGAIN, THE SERVICES PROVIDED, I HAVE THEM LISTED THERE, I

TOUCHED ON THEM. >> WE HAD A SIXTH SITE THAT WAS FOR VETERINARY SERVICES. AND MR. JUAN RAMIREZ WILL LET YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DID THERE AND WHAT THEY PROVIDED TO THE

COMMUNITY. >> HOW ARE WE SUCCESSFUL AND JUST YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, LOOK AT THE PARTNERS, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT SITE I RAISED MY HAND.

I WANT TO HELP YOU. AND THERE WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN MAKING THIS SUCCESSFUL WITHOUT THEIR SUPPORT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PANDEMIC IT IS ROUGH. AND IN PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW WE HAD STUFF LIKE I WANT TO GIVE YOU 5000 GLASSES.

WE NEVER EXPECTED THAT. AND FROM THE LIONS CLUB WE'LL DONATE YOU 5000 USED GLASSES THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD BENEFIT FROM. THE OTHER REASON WE WERE SUCCESSFUL. LOOK AT THIS.

WE COULD NOT HAVE PLANNED THIS BETTER IF WE TRIED.

THE SUMMER LOW OF COVID CASES HAPPENED TO HIT IN JUNE.

AS YOU CAN SEE POINTED OUT THERE AFTER WE WERE DONE WITH IRT THE STARS ALIGNED. THAT'S WHY WE WERE SUCCESSFUL AND THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE WEEKLY UP TICK.

TWO WEEKS LATER WE HAD DOUBLE THE CASES, FOUR WEEKS LATER WE'RE AT 3, 4 TIMES THE CASES. IT WAS JUST GREAT TIMING, WE COULD NOT HAVE PLANNED IT BETTER.

WHAT DID WE ACCOMPLISH OUT THERE.

>> WE SAW 2500 COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

WE SAY, YOU HAD THIS PERSON IN FRONT OF A PROVIDER AND ASSISTANT AND A SOCIAL WORKER TAKING THE TIME TO ASSESS THE PATIENT'S NEEDS. IT TAKES TIME THE FOLKS OVER 800 AND IN THE AREA AND GOOD TIMING A LOT OF THEM WOULD

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START SCHOOL WITH IN AUGUST. AND DENTAL CARE.

THAT WAS A POPULAR OUT THERE. OVER 1500 AND THE DENTAL SERVICES PROVIDED. TONS OF MUSICIANS.

AND 390 PEOPLE WERE INJECTED SOME WERE MULTIPLE VACCINES NOTE JUST COAST AND AND. AND VERY WELL ACCEPTED A LOT TOOK ADVANTAGE AND GOT THEM TO THE RESOURCES NEEDED IN THE AREA AND MEDICATIONS. AND 300 PEOPLE AND TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT. WOMEN HEALTH SERVICES AND FREEZE LADIES. YOU HAVE BEEN TO WOMEN'S HEALTH EXAM THIS IS NOT SOMETHING, IT TAKES TIME.

ITST A PROCESS. AND THEN WE PROVIDED

NUTRITIONAL EDUCATION. >> AND CLASSES.

>> NEXT SLIDE. HERE IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE STUFF SOME OF THE AVERAGE COST SAVINGS TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND THIS IS CONSERVATIVE. I CAME CAME UP TO $1.1 MILLION SAVED FROM PARISHES HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE PROVIDERS FOR ALL THE SCREENINGS THEY RECEIVED THERE. AND THIS IS JUST BASED ON THE COST. AND AND THAT WAS EXCELLENT THAT

WAS MEDICAL. >> NEXT SLIDE.

>> AND WHAT ELSE. AND WE ESTABLISH A COMMUNITY OUT THERE AND THEY ARE HERE TO SUPPORT YOU.

>> THAT IS PRICELESS. THEY KNOW US, THEY'RE OUT THEY'RE LOOKING OUT FOR ME. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THIS AGAIN NEXT YEAR. AND HAVING, WE EXPECT IT WILL

BE DOUBLE THE SIZE GREAT STUFF. >> AND WE COULD NOT HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT THEM. I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF ALL

THOSE THINGS. >> FROM JUAN AND THE AMOUNT OF THE VETERINARY. AND THE ANIMAL AND ANIMAL SERVICES. WE HAD 195 VACS INFLATIONS.

AND WE DID SOME CATS WITH THE HELP OF THE HUMANE SOCIETY.

77 SPAY AND NEUTER. AND WE HAD A SAVINGS OF OVER 40,000. SERVICES; THERE IS NO DOUBT IF WE HAD MORE RESOURCES, WE COULD HAVE DONE MORE SURGERIES.

, NEXT YEAR WILL BE BETTER. THERE WAS A GREAT NEED.

AND I WANT TO SAY BIG THANKS TO OUR JASON.

>> GREEN. >> WITH THE RICO.

>> PARKER. >> AND HE GOD ME OUT OF HE GOT THEM OUT. , WE LOOK FORWARD.

>> DO YOU EVER A BALLPARK AND WAS FOR THE COUNTY.

>> AND WAY UNDER $3000. >> EVERYTHING ELSE?

>> FROM THE MILITARY AND THE AND INCREASED.

THE PORT WE TREATED WHEN THE MILITARY BRASS CAME IN THE GENERAL. THAT GOES AND THERE WERE OTHER

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SPONSORED AND THEY WERE IN NEED OF SUTURES I CALLED THE ORAL SURGEON I KNOW WE WERE, YOU KNOW ON OUR WAY TO HIS OFFICE TO PICK UP SUTURES. IT WAS THAT KIND OF AN OPERATION WHERE THE PEOPLE THAT YOU LISTED START TO SCRATCH THE SURFACE OF THE PEOPLE THOSE CENTER THE SCHOOLS THAT OPENED UP. STEVE BONNER HELPED MAGGIE TURNER WORK ON THE PROTOCOLS WHEN YOU HAVE TOP MILITARY BRASS. THEY FORGET HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO USE THE RIGHT PICTURES AND PEOPLE THE RIGHT WAY.

IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE, AS YOU SAID, THE FACT THAT YOU DID IT DURING THE PANDEMIC IS MORE INCREDIBLE.

>> AND THE SCHOOL OF TARGET TOUR.

CAME FOR THE INITIATIVES BE WITH US AND GREG HARTMAN WAS INVOLVED. THE CHANCELLOR.

IT WAS THE HIGHLIGHT OF WHAT MAY HAVE BEEN A SAD TIME.

>> AND FROM THE PROJECTS THAT THE WORKED ON.

>>> THERE WAS A TEAM EFFORT BETWEEN THE ENTITIES AND THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS YEAR FROM JUNE TO THIS YEAR AND ALL THE OTHER ENTITIES, WE DID 8 PROJECTS EQUAL TO 4.7 MILES WORTH OF ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.

THREE PROJECTS NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND THE TOTAL COST AND AND ARE YOU HIRED AN ENGINEER AND YOU REQUIRE A PROJECT MANAGER AND GO THROUGH ALL THAT PROCESS, THEY WILL COST 7.7 MILLION. THE SECOND ITEM IS WHAT IT COCOSTS US, $1 MILLION. THE MATERIAL COST WAS

$7 MILLION. >> THERE WAS A NET SAVINGS ON THE PROJECT. GOING FROM 7 MILLION TO 1.7 MILLION FOR THE PROJECTS. THAT'S GREAT.

NEXT SLIDE. AND SOME OF THE PROJECTS CONSISTED OF AND RECONSTRUCTION.

AND IN THERE WAS A LOW LYING AREA WHERE IT WOULD STAND ON THE ROADS. WE HAD TO DO A LOT OF WORK TO GET IT STABLIZED WITH THE MILITARY.

NEXT SLIDE. TO THE LEFT SOME ADDITIONAL REWORK AND TO THE RIGHT THE TOP PART SEEING THE FINISH OF THE BASE WORK FROM THE MILITARY CREW REGRADING THE ROADS.

>> THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

AND WE HAD TO RESTABILIZE THE ROAD JERRY BROUGHT THE CREWS WITH A TRUCKLOAD THE MILITARY CARRIED IT STARTED SPREADING IT AND REWORKING THE BASE TO GET IT STABLIZED.

>> THIS IS A PROJECT TO THE SOUTH.

THE PICTURE ON THE BOTTOM. AND THIS IS ON 73 A.

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THIS IS PART OF THE PROJECT AND COMMISSIONERS THE FUNDING AND THE GRANT THAT WE GOT FROM THE STATE WHICH WAS 75% GRANT AND 75% MATCH. WE EXCEEDED OUR MATCH AND MARIA AND NATALIE PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

IT WAS LIKE OVER 600,000. , WE HOPE TO GET THIS TARIFF SIM AND GET THE ROADS. AND GET ONE.

>> GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. AND AND 73.

AND THEN TO THE RIGHT BOTTOM QUARTER.

THE FINAL TOUCH AND ANYWHERE AND AND TALKING ABOUT A ROAD.

AND PART AND THE COMMISSIONER AND.

WE HAD SOMETHING ELSE THEY COULD WORK ON.

AND TO MY ATTENTION AND. RIGHT THERE.

AND FINISHED UP THE ROAD. AND WE PUT A BASE ON IT.

IT WAS IN WE HAD THE CULVERTS AND.

>> THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THEY WERE ASSISTING AND CLEANING OUT THE DITCHES. THIS IS ABOUT HALF A MILE.

THEY COMPLETED IT WITHIN, I WOULD SAY WITHIN A WEEK.

THEY WERE COMPLETED WITH THE DITCH CLEANING.

NEXT SLIDE. AND NEXT SLIDE.

AND THEY WENT OUT THERE AND STARTED CLEANING OUT THE DITCH. IT WAS OVER A HALF MILE AND MILE WORTH THAT THEY DID FOR THE CLEANING.

NEXT SLIDE. COUNTY ROAD 18.

AND PRECINCT 3. FOUR PROJECTS AND 42 FROM 44 DITCH CLEANING. KIND OF 40.

AND 18 AND 75. AND 16.

AND THOSE WERE A ROAD REHAB. AND THEN COUNTY ROAD 18.

NEXT SLIDE. >> THIS IS THE DITCH CLEANING ON THE ROAD 44 TO 42 -- 40 TO 44.

IT IS A MILE STRETCH AND TOOK THEIR EQUIPMENT, AND CLEAN OUT THE BRUSH AND THE DITCHES. AND A WEEK'S TIMEFRAME.

LET YOU KNOW SORRY ABOUT THAT. AND.

THERE WAS A COST SAVINGS AND THAT WE HAVE A WIN FOR THE COUNTY. I DON'T PAT MY STAFF'S BACK.

AND MY STAFF TODAY AND THEY WERE OUT THERE.

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AND WE'RE ON THE CALL WITH THEM.

AND MAKE SURE PICK UP THE MATERIAL.

MAKING SURE THEY HAD 4000 TONS OF MIX AT THE FAIRGROUNDS.

THEY HAD 1000 TONS AT 73. AND ONE THAT COORDINATEED TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE ON SITE AND THEY WERE READY TO GO.

I WANT TO THINK THE STAFF FOR WORKING ON THE PROJECTS AND THANK OUR COMMISSIONERS FOR THE PROJECTS, TOO.

>> THANK YOU. >> WHAT ABOUT THE FAIRGROUNDS YOU DID SOME THINGS THERE, I KNOW THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED.

>> YOU KNOW WHAT, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

I DID MISS THOSE PHOTOS. >> THAT WAS ABOUT TRYING TO REMEMBER THE SQUARE YARDS , 5000 OF NEW MATERIAL THAT ABOUT 3 TO 4 THICKNESS. AND THAT WAS DONE FROM THE THAT TOOK THEM. AND PERFORM THAT.

AND CAME IN. THEY MARK AND THEY TEARING UP THE ROADS. AND THEY WERE READY TO WORK.

>> THAT IS PART OF THE COST SAVINGS.

AND THAT -- IT WAS ANOTHER PROJECT OUT OF THE.

THAT WAS OUR CONTRIBUTION OUT OF THE 2020 COS.

THERE WAS AN ALLOCATION OF $600,000.

SPENT IT. WHERE DO WE GET THE HOT MIX?

>> I KNOW THAT THE REACHED OUT A CONTRACT.

WE HAVE A CONTRACT WE USED IT. >> AND DO WE HAVE TO PROCURE

THAT, TO WE DO THAT. >> AND COMPETITIVELY.

WE REACHED OUT TO PURCHASING AND INFORMED US SINCE WE HAVE THE CONTRACT WITH. AND WE COULD USE THAT TO PERFORM THE WORK. HOW DO WE PICK WHICH ARE CHOSE BE. HOW CAN WE DO THAT IN ADVANCE.

>> YOU SHOULD BE ASKING ME THAT.

>> IT WAS JUAN AND WHAT ROAD DO YOU WANT YOU THINK YOU, 1, 2,

3, 4. >> THIS IS WHY SOME PEOPLE AND OTHERS AND EVERYONE COULD GIVE ROADS TO JUAN THAT, ARE YOU IN CHARGE OF ROADS. YOU'RE IN CHARGE OF THE

SELECTION OF ROADS? >> NO.

>> OKAY JUST WONDERING. >> AND I WANT TO LISTEN.

WE MET SEVERAL TIMES IT'S NOT A ONE-DAY THING OR TWO-DAY THING.

WE PROVIDED INFORMATION. I GAVE THREE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT. AND COMING THROUGH THE COMMISSIONER MAREZ. YOU KNOW.

THIS IS. >> IT WAS A NOBODY IS ELECTED.

AND AND WE STARTED DOING THE ROADS.

THE TEAM AND BEFORE I FORGET I WANT TO SAY THAT JUAN THE MESSAGE TEAM. AND AND YOU KNOW MANY PEOPLE

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DON'T THINK THAT THEY DO. THAT THEY WORK LONG HOURS.

DURING THE WEEK. THEY WORK LONG HOURS DURING THE

WEEKEND. >> WE HAVE BEEN OUT THERE.

AND ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. THEY WERE WORKING WITH THE MILITARY. THE BRASS WATER OUT THERE A COUPLE OF DAYS. THEY WERE PLEASED.

AND THEY'RE COMING BACK. >> YOU KNOW, THEY'RE COMING

BACK. >> SOME OF THE PEOPLE LEARNED HOW TO USE THE EQUIPMENT. YOU KNOW THEY HAD NEVER USED

BEFORE. >> AND THEY'RE -- THEY GET ON THE HANDS ON TRAINING. THIS COMING YEAR.

WE'LL DO ROADS AND DRAINAGE AND WHICH IS MORE IMPORTANT.

YOU KNOW WE'LL HAVE A MEETING AGAIN LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR AND START TALKING AND GETTING TOGETHER AND SAYING, YOU KNOW IN THE MILITARY THEY COME DOWN THEY CAME DOWN, I DON'T KNOW.

15, 20 MIMES IN THE GROUPS. YOU NOW IT IS, AGAIN I JUST.

PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW AND THAT, BEHIND THE SCENE WAS THE CREWS WERE DOING. AND THE PERSONS WERE THERE FOR HOURS. MAKING SURE WE DO THE CLOSE OUT. EARLY IN THE MORNING THEY GOT

OUT. >> AND IT WAS A --

>> A LOT OF A LOT OF TEAM EFFORT WORKING TOGETHER.

AND PULL IN THE SAME DIRECTION.

>> AND SO, THIS WAS A SUCCESS AND EVERYONE WAS INVOLVED.

AND PITCHING IN AND WORKING TOGETHER.

>> OTHER THAN THAT. YOU KNOW I WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW. IT COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT THE MILITARY. MEDICAL PEOPLE AND THE OFFICERS CAME IN AND THE SO, IT WAS TOTALLY AN EFFORT THAT THE COUNTY PUT TOGETHER. TWO PEOPLE LEADING THE CHARGES AND THE GROUP FROM COLLEGE STATION AND FROM I THINK THIS IS ALL IN ALL WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS A TREMENDOUS, TREMENDOUS RESULT AND SUCCESS AND WHAT HAPPENED DURING THOSE NINE DAYS. DID I SAY NINE DAYS.

THEY WERE HERE ALMOST TWO MONTHS, THEY WORKED UP UNTIL AUGUST AND THEY PACKED UP AND LEFT.

SO. I JUST WANT TOE THANK THE PEOPLE THAT AND ALL THE EFFORT THEY DID.

IT TOOK THEM ALL THE PARTNERS AND THAT MADE IT A SUCCESS.

AND WITHOUT THEM, A GREAT JOB. >> CAN WE GET A CROSS CHECK OF THE ROADS WE DID VERSUS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT LISTS THE ROADS ADD WE UPDATED IT IN 2021.

WE HAVE A LISTING OF ROADS. SOME OF WHICH WE HAVE TACKLED YOU KNOW THROUGH OUR OWN WORK, SOME OF WHICH WERE TACKLED AND THEN OTHERS KIND OF COME IN AND SOMETIMES THROUGH RELATIONSHIPS LIKE THE ONE WE HAVE WITH A DEVELOPERS AND 43 AND NOW WE'LL GET TO ADD THESE. I WANT TO SEE IF THESE ROADS WERE THE ONES THAT IF I CAN CROSS OFF ANY ON MY LIST AND IF NOT, I WANT TO KNOW IF WE CAN MOVE SOME OF THE ONES ON THE LIST TO THE 2021 BECAUSE I CANNOT FIGURE OUT HOW THINGS ARE PRIORITIZED. IF WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THINGS EQUAL FOR EVERYONE WE'RE SUPER GRATEFUL FOR THE MILITARY. OUR PROCESSES COULD BE WE STRENGTHEN OUR PROCESSES WITH REGARDS TO THE CIVIL SIDIVE IT AND THE STRIPING ON THE RV PARK AND WE CAN HAVE THAT IN AND THE RIGHT TOOLS WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT'S AN EXAMPLE AND ANYONE LOOKS AT OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND IT IS

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HELPFUL WHEN WE HAVE THE OUTSIDE EXTRAS LIKE THIS IS.

WE GET TO CHECK OFF BUT WHEN I ASK LIKE 73 A WAS NOT A PART OF

THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. >> ONE THING WE REMEMBER WE HAVE OUR OWN 7-YEAR MAINTENANCE PLAN, WE HAVE A ROTATION, WE

HAVE TO MAINTAIN. >> THAT HAS TO BE INSIDE.

>> THAT'S NOT PART OF THE CIP. IT IS OUR ROTATION THAT IS PART OF THE ROTATION BUT THE CIP WE DETERMINE WHICH ARE IN MORE BAD SHAPE. IN THE CIP PLAN, THE 7-YEAR PLAN IT IS A ROTATION AND THEN IF SOMETHING COMES OUT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AT THAT POINT WE NEED TO TACKLE IT, WELL PUT IT OUT WHATEVER YEAR. AND IT WAS PART OF THIS, WE SEVERED A LOT OF MONEY HAVING THE MILITARY DO IT BECAUSE GONE OUT FOR PROPER TACT. WITH THE MILITARY.

LOOKING AT MILITARY DOLLARS. >> I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT ARE YOU MAYBE THERE IS A MISNOMER WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS. A DEPUTY IMPROVEMENT PLAN IS EVERYTHING. IT IS THE UNIVERSE.

IT'S NOT SEPARATE. THE REASON I SAY THAT WHEN I LOOKED AT IT I WAS TRYING TO GET YOU GET EXCITED, AND A REDUCTION FROM THE CIP PLAN. I DON'T SEE THAT.

THEN I'M I NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHY.

AND FOR QUESTION IN THE FUTURE AND INCLUDES IRT FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS. WE WANT TO LOOK AT THOSE ROOTS THAT THE IMPROVEMENT OR THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THE MILITARY COULD USE THAT'S THE PRIORITY AND RANK THEM WHICH YOU GUYS DID, NOT US. WE CAN WORK MORE SEEMLESSLY WITH THE PLAN THAT NEEDS TO BE TACKLED.

>> I ECHO THAT INKS THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR.

WE NEED TO SEE THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT TAKEN AWAY. IT IS

SOMEWHERE. >> IT MAY NOT BE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. WE'RE IMPROVING THE ROADS THAT

NEED TO BE IMPROVED. >> AND, HOW 2020 WOULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD YEAR WE HAD TO WAIT.

2021 WAS A GREAT YEAR THE AMOUNT OF SERVICES THAT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED IN 17 OR 18 WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT.

WE DIDN'T KNOW WE WOULD HAVE THE BRANCHES PROVIDING THAT.

I'M I'M EXCITED. WE HAD MATERIALS AND HAD PLENTY OF MATERIALS. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE LEADING UP TO IS THAT DISCUSSED, WHEN A LIST IS FINALIZED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WHAT THE MATERIALS WILL COST AND REQUEST THOSE TO SET THEM ASIDE FOR THE PROJECTS.

>> THAT'S SUPER KEY. WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THOSE MATERIALS HAVE A COST. 600,000 TAKING AWAY WHICH WE TOLD BONDS, WHO UNDERWRITES FOR US, WHAT WE'LL DO.

THE CIP IS ATTACHED TO THE CO. WE'LL USE THE MONEY FOR THE CO IT HAS TO BE FOR THE CIP PROJECTS.

I'M SAYING WHERE YOU CAN FIND ME ONE I WANT TO CHECK THE BOX. I LOOKED I DIDN'T SEE THE OVERRAY IT WORRIED ME THAT'S WHY I BRING IT UP. IT IS IMPORTANT NOT TO PUT YOUR MAINTENANCE OUR MATERIALS CAME OUT OF THE YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.

THE $600,000. THEY STAYED AT THE FAIRGROUNDS. THE WEST OF THE MONEY AND OUR BUDGET AND OUT OF ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS.

>> AT THAT POINT IN TIME AND THEY CAME OUT U.

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>> IS THE MILLION TOGETHER. >> THE MILLION.

>> THE MILLION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE OUR LABOR COST AND THE TIME ON THE PROMISES IT IS FREE ONE, THEY ARE I'LL LOOK FOR A DIFFERENT BREAKDOWN.

>> DOES THE 600,000 PART OF THE MILLION?

>> AND THE 600,000 WAS FOR THE MATERIAL ITSELF.

NOT INCLUDING OUR TIME. , CAN YOU BREAK IT DOWN.

WE CAME AND REQUESTED THE $600,000.

WE, THEY WERE SET ASIDE. THEY WERE SET ASIDE FOR THAT PROJECT. WE MADE SURE THAT FROM OUR ADMINISTRATION AND A DON'T SPEND THE MONIES.

THIS REALLOCATED. >> I THINK THE ROAD PIECE WE

CAN STRENGTHEN. >> THE OTHER PART FROM THE MILLION DOLLARS THAT CAME OUT OF THE TIF MONEYS FROM TX DOT.

AND THE BASE MATERIAL. THEY WERE SET ASIDE FROM THE TIF MONEY FROM THE GRANT. THEY WERE MILLION CAME OUT OF THE TIF. IT WAS NOT 1.1 MILLION.

>> AND A GOOD BREAKDOWN, THE TIF ONE.

>> WE'LL GET A BREAKDOWN. ANY ROADS IN PRECINCT 4?

>> , WE LOOKED AT THAT,. >> IT'S OKAY.

>> IT'S NOT; THEY HAD. >> IT IS A DRAFT OF POSSIBLE ROADS FOR THE MILITARY SO WE HAVE A DRAFT LIST WE CAN PROVIDE TO THE COURT TO REVIEW THAT.

>> THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT. >> THIS IS GOOD.

>> THIS IS GOOD. >> IT'S WHERE I WAS LEADING US TO. AND END ON A HIGH NOTE.

THIS IS AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY WE SEIZED UPON AND WORK RESULTED. NOW WE CREATE AN AFTER ACTION PLAN AND IT SHOULD BE WITH THE WAY IT IS.

>> WE GET INPUT. >> JUDGE AND THE COMMISSIONER

MAREZ SAID IT. >> IF I HEAR YOU.

>> WE'RE GOING TO GET BETTER. >> BUT WE HAVE TO BE

EQUITABLE. >> WE SAID LET'S GO IT.

LET'S GET IT DONE. WHEN IT CAME ALONG.

>>> IT WAS THERE. DRIVE A MILE.

>> EXCUSE ME I WANT TO BRAG ON YOU FOR A BIT I KNOW WHAT YOU WENT THROUGH. I WAS THERE ON THE WEEKENDS SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS. THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS NOT HAPPY WITH YOU BREAKING UP. THE LADY CAME AND JUMPED ON THE FORESPAN KILL THE OAK TREE SO. WE TRIED TO TALK TO YOU.

JERRY WILL TALK TO YOU LATER. I WAS NOT HERE FOR THE COUNTY ROADS THAT YOU MADE OUT TO HAVE THEM DONE.

I WAS THERE AT MEN THE MILITARY WAS THERE FOBBING FOR WORK, THEY WERE RAINED OUT. I ASKED THEM I SAID LOOKING FOR WORK. THERE IS A AID RIDING THE BIKES DOWN THE CIRCLE. , THANK YOU, APPRECIATE THAT.

>> AND TALKED, GUYS. >> THANK YOU.

>> WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM LOVE TO NUMBER 7 AND RECEIVE

[7. Receive conceptual design presentation from Richter Architects for the planned renovation of the Hilltop Community Center; discuss the proposed budget and schedule.]

CONCEPTUAL DESIGN PRESENTATION FROM RICHTER ARCHITECTS FOR THE PLANNED RENOVATION OF THE HILL TOP COMMUNITY CENTERMENT AND MOVE TO SCOTT CROSS AND WE'LL TAKE 10, 11, 12 AND 13 AFTER THIS. WE'LL HAVE A COASTAL PIECE AND

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WE'LL START WITH HILL TOP. THIS IS PRESENTATION ONLY.

CAN YOU SIT BACK AND THEN DISCUSS A BIT ABOUT A POTENTIAL BUDGET AND SCHEDULE. , THANK YOU VERY PLEASED TO

PRESENT TODAY. >> CAN YOU PULL THAT MIC TO YOU. CIRCUMSTANCES THAT BETTER.

>> WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE MY PRESENT HERE. SHE IS ON OTHER BUSINESS.

SHE HAS BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT.

AS ALEX GARZA. >> IT DOES NOT SOUND.

>> I CAN'T HEAR. YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE CAN YOU HEAR. DO YOU MIND PASSING THE FREE STANDING. THANK YOU U ANYONE IS WATCHING THIS YOU KNOW ARE YOU WAITING FOR YOUR AGENDA ITEM THIS IS ONE TO STOP ADD PAY ATTENTION. THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST INNOVATIVE DESIGNS YOU WILL SEE THIS IS NOTE WORTHY.

>> WE'RE EXCITED TO LEAD YOU IN THE PROJECT AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ FOR WORKING WITH US ON THIS.

IT HAS BEEN A TEAM EFFORT AND JUAN'S OFFICE AS WELL.

WE'RE AT A POINT WE SPENT A LOT OF EFFORT ON THE FRONT END.

THIS NEEDED ATTENTION ON A DETAILED LEVEL TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND THE OPPORTUNITY. THE IMAGE IS NOT QUITE FULL IS THERE A WAY TO SHOW A FULL SCREEN? LET'S FORGE AHEAD HERE. IF HE PERMIT ME TO GIVE BACKGROUND I'LL SAY THINGS YOU KNOW BUT IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE GREAT PROJECTS ARE ALWAYS BEGIN WITH IDEAS.

GOOD AND START OF STUDIO EFFORT.

WE TAKE ASSESSMENT OF THE ASSETS.

THIS IS SITE IS SPECIAL. VERY SPECIAL. IT IS UNIQUE TOPOGRAVY, HIKING TRAIL AS BIRDING DESTINATION T IS A GREAT PLACE. IT HAS A GREAT HIS THE CENTER OF COMMUNITY IN THAT PART OF THE COUNTY FOR A LONG TIME.

IT HAS TRADITION ABOUT IT. IT IS A SIGNIFICANT WORK OF ARCHITECTURE THAT IS WELL WORN AND NEEDS HELP.

IT WAS DESIGNED FOR HEALTH AND WELLNESS AND VENTILATION AND DAYLIGHT AND DAYLIGHT ACTIVITIES.

MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT TO LIFE IN THE 21ST CENTURY.

IT HAS A STRUCTURE THAT WITHSTOOD MANY HURRICANES.

IT IS PRIME FOR REBIRTH. IT IS IMPORTANT TO SAY IN A COMMUNITY THAT STRUGGLED SOMETIMES WITH ADAPTING OLDER BUILDINGS THEY ARE OBSOLETE. THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE VINTAGE HAVE LIVED THROUGH THE FIRST OR SECOND OR THIRD BOUT OF IT

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BEING OBSOLETE. IT WAS VALUE.

ALL GREAT CITIES HAVE LEARNED HOW TO IDENTIFY THE VINTAGE BUILDINGS AND BRING THEM INTO THE NEW WORLD.

IT IS THE FIRST TRANSITION FROM THE USE TO THE FIRST ADOPTED REUSE THAT HELPS YOU CAPTURE AND MAKE THE JUMP.

AND THE AND WITH ENERGY AND DISCUSSED A LOT TODAY.

SO, THE NEXT SLIDE IT A -- IS A AN AERIAL RENDERED VIEW.

I WANT TO BE SURE. NEXT ONE AFTER THAT.

PLEASE. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN I WILL NOT TALK ABOUT IT. AND THAT IS A SHAPE THAT WEAVES THROUGH THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING OF THE PROJECT AND THERE ARE COURTYARDS. WE'RE EXPANDING PARKING TO THE NORTH OF THE IMAGE THERE AS TO THE SOUTH.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A RENDERING.

YOU CAN READ THE TEXT BETWEEN THE SIX WINGS WE HAVE CAPTURED GARDENS. WE HAVE IDENTIFYED FOUR OF DIFFERENT THEMES.

THE ONE TO THE ENTRANCE THE TOP OF THE PAGE THERE IS NATIVE.

THEY ARE LOW MAINTENANCE. WE KNOW HOW DIFFICULT TO KEEP LANDSCAPING IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD.

THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL AND LOW MAINTENANCE.

ONCE THEY ARE ESTABLISHED THEY DON'T REQUIRE A LOT OF CARE.

PEOPLE WILL GET A TASTE OF HILL TOP.

FURTHER DOWN. AND THE ACTIVITY GARDEN.

THAT IS MORE OF AN OUTDOOR SPACE.

WEDDINGS. AND PARTIES.

OUTDOOR EVENTS T IS LIKE A BIG PLAZA.

ONE WE'RE CALLING AN ORCHARD GARDEN A PLACE FOR CITE USE AND OTHER TREES THAT PROLIFERATE IN THE AREA.

AND IT CREATES A SHADED ENVIRONMENT FOR PEOPLE TO SIT UNDER THE DEGREES AN AND PRODUCES FRUIT.

THE LAST IS A VICTORY GARDEN THE COMMUNITY CAN ADOPT OR GIVE AWAY OR CELEBRATE. , CAN WE SAY THERE REAL QUICK.

, THIS IS THE FOOT PRINT THAT EXISTS AND THE EDIFICES, THEY ARE REIMAGINED BUT IF THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HILL

TOP. >> I'M ASSUMING TOO MUCH.

80% OF WHAT YOU SEE EXISTS. , THE GARDENS THAT HAPPEN BETWEEN THEM. AND THE CLOSURE PIECES.

THIS IS A SOCIAL SERVICE BUILDING.

A SUPPORT BUILDING HERE. AND JUST A HERE.

THE REMAINERS THAT IS AND CREATE A PERIMETER THAT IS SECURE. THAT ARE DIFFICULT TO MANAGE

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AND TO OPERATE SECURELY BECAUSE OF THE ENTRANCES BUT A VERY INDOOR, OUTDOOR COMPLEX THAT HAS A SINGLE ENTRANCE AND THEN PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND GRATED IN A JOBBIE HERE AND GO TO MEETING ROOM. AND I'LL SHOW A SLIDE WHAT IS KNEW AND EXISTING. THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SAME VIEW AS YOU COME HERE. HERE IS THE NATIVE GARDEN.

, THESE ARE PALS ON TOP OF EACH OF THE BUILDINGS.

AND THE ARRAY IS CRITICAL. IN FACT IN MY ZEAL TO MOVE THE LATE HIGH COURT I NEGLECTED TO POINT OUT TWO THINGS THAT TWO OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE HERE IS ONE WE WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE WHAT IS CALLED THE LEADERSHIP AND ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN WHICH IS A INTERNATIONAL M METRIC AND AND WE BELIEVE THIS THE HIGHEST WE MAY BE WRONG.

THAT IS VERY RARE AND PRESTIGIOUS AND A LEVEL OF THAT BECAUSE OF QUALITIES. THE OTHER THING WE HOPE IS NET ZERO THE BUILDING CAN BE DESIGNED TO PRODUCE MORE ENERGY OVER THE COURSE THAN IT CONSUMES.

AND WE CAN PRODUCE MORE YOU WILL SELL IT BACK AND NETTING A POWER BILL AND A INCOME. SO, WE'RE DESIGNING FOR THAT BECAUSE WE THINK THAT'S A PRACTICAL THAT'S A VIEW OF THE ENTRANCE. AND THE BUILDINGS AND IT IS STRIP THE BRICK OFF AND REBUILD WALLS.

THEY ARE LARGE-SCALE TILES THEY ARE DESIGNED TO BE WHAT IS CALLED A RAIN SCREEN TECHNOLOGY.

THAT HAS AIR SPACE FOR ENERGY AND TO HELP IT DRY.

AND IT IS THE IN THE SPIRIT. >> AND OF THE PAST.

AND ONE IN THE FUTURE. >> AND LOOKING NORTH THE TWO BUILDINGS IN THE GROUND ARE WHERE AND UNASSIGNED.

THEY ARE AND THE PROJECT ITSELF.

AND WE HAVE IN THE DESIGN AND THE BUDGET AND VEN OVATIONS.

YOU WILL HAVE BUILD IN. >> AND -7Z OR MORE TPH-FRPBLG THE -- NEXT THE SER TEEN LOGA THAT GOES THROUGH THE GARDENS INTO ONE AND ANOTHER AND ANOTHER PROTECTED WALKWAY BETWEEN AND AMONG THE BUILDINGS.

>> THIS IS A PLAN TO COLOR CODE THE DIFFERENT USES.

THE BLUE IS KIND OF THE MEETING ROOMING.

AND THE YELLOW TO THE SOUTH QUO YOU FUTURE.

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TO THE RIGHT ARE THE NEW CONSTRUCTION BUILTING.

ADMINISTRATION AND WICK AND TO THE CORNER IS JUVENILE PROBATION. WHAT PEOPLE AND THROUGH THE GARDENS AND THE MEETING GROUPS AND OTHER ACTIVITIES. HERE IS THE PLAN. WE CAN DRILL DOWN.

AND DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES. AND AND THE SPACE HERE IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER. THEY PROVIDE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES. IMPORTANT TO THE IDEA A BUILDING THAT IS HEALTHIZE. AND PLEASANT AND CONNECTED TO NATURE. AND THE BUILDING HAD.

AND GENTLY SLOPING. AND THE THAT IS ALL EXISTING.

AND THE OVERBUILT MONITOR. >> AND THE SOLAR ARRAY PROVIDES

HELTER FOR SOME. >> AND AND FOR THE AIR CONDITIONING. THEY WERE BUILD FOR VENTILATION.

AND A SIMPLE THINGS. TRY TO VENTILATE THE BILLING NOW WE'RE IN YOU WOULD BE HARD PRESSED.

IT WAS DESIGNED FOR VENTILATION.

WE'LL RECAPTURE THAT BUT WITH A TWIST.

AND THERE ARE SENSORS OUTSIDE AND INSIDE.

THEY IDENTIFY THE INGREDIENTS FOR COMFORT.

AND AIR MOTION. THEY WILL OPEN UP WHEN IT IS COMFORTABLE AND CLOSE. THEY WILL SHOUT DOWN ONE THE ROOM IS NOT POCK EYED -- OCCUPIED.

THEY CAN BE SET TO DIFFERENT CRITERIA.

WHEN THE ROOM IS BOOKED FOR A PURPOSE.

THE STAFF THAT BOOKS THEM PUSHING COMFORT A OR B DEPENDING ON THE USE AND BUILDING WILL ADJUST TO THAT.

>> THIS IS TECHNOLOGY THAT EXISTS NOW, IT IS NOT DEPLOYED AND RARELY TO THE SCENT THIS IS COULD CREATE NATURAL COMFORT NOT ENERGY RELATED.

>> IT IS AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY.

AN IDEA WE HAVE TOYED WITH AND HOW TO DEPLOY WITH THIS TECHNICAL CREATIVITY. TIS WAS THE PERFECT CANDIDATE.

THIS IS A US USE THAT'S SPORADIC.

IT HAS QUALITIES. OTHER THERE MAY BE SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH YOB IN THEM. THEY ARE VERY JEW DISHON OF THE ASSETS ADD MONEY TO GEN THE COSTS DOWN BY TURNING THEM ON AND OFF. THAT'S NOT THE BEST WAY TO OPERATE. IT THIS IS AT THE CORE.

CREATE THEM CONNECTED TO GARDENS.

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AND FOR ANY NUMBER OF ACTIVITIES AND CAPTURE THE SENSIBILITIES AND LIVING IN SOUTH TEXAS WHAT GOOD WEATHER ALL YEAR ROUND. WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY FOR IT.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS LOOKING FROM ONE OF THE GARDENS INTO A MEETING ROOM. WE THINK THE CIVIC CAM RADDY THAT HELPS WHEN PEOPLE WALK BY. ANOTHER GROUP, YOU DON'T NEAT TO BE IN A REMAIN WHERE ONLY YOU SEE YOUR FRIENDS.

BUT THE SOLIDS HAVE ACCUSATIVE AND PROVIDES THE PRIVACY THAT YOU NEED. THE AND THE COVER ON THE LEFT IS WHAT LINKED THE BUILDINGS THE TWO.

THEY ARE CREATED BY BREEZE WAYS.

MOST IS FROM OUTDOORS. THE SPACES THEY'RE A MORE, THIS IS THE KNAVETIVE GARDEN. HIR IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE

NATIVE YARDEN. >> THIS IS NOT THE PRECISE LANDSCAPING. AND CREATE A BEAUTIFUL GARDEN.

THEITAN TERM FOR A TOWER. BUT A FREEZE STANDING TOWER THAT MARK AS SPACE IS WHAT WE REFER TO AND THIS IS A STRUCTURE THAT IS SUPPORTED THE LACK FOR THE ORIGINAL WIN THEY BURN THE TRASH. INSEN RATER.

, THAT WAS AN INCINERATOR STACK.

>> AND THE CENTERPIECE OF THE ACTIVITY GARDEN.

TOO; ANOTHER VIEWIVE THE SER TEEN WALK - SER TEEN -- SERPENTINE IS NEW, THAT IS NEW.

THERE IS A COVERED WALKWAY DOWN THE CENTER NOW.

>> IT IT IS IN POOR REPAIR. IT'S SOMETHING TO DEM LOLLISH.

AND THE COMMUNITY GRADERREN WHICH IS A COMMUNITY HARDEN; TO TRY TO GET WE KNEW THE DISCUSSION WOULD GET TO HOW MUCH DOES THIS COST AND SO. IIN ORDER TO ANSWER THAT RATHER SIMPLE QUESTION WE HAD TO DO A STUDY ADD ACHIEVE AND VERY COMPLEX. AND WE TOOK A PEACE OF THE MILDING WE GAVE THEM DETAILS ON THE MECHANICAL SYSTEM AND SQUARE FOOTAGE. THEY TOOK THE CLIMATE OF THE AREA OVER AN ALL IZED YEAR AND RAN.

WE GIVE THEM A CALLEN THATTEN DAR.

WE GAVE THEM A HYPOTHETICAL CALENDAR ON THE RIGHT IN THE YELLOW BARS. THE YELLOW IS HOW IT IS USED NOW. HOW A WING OF THE BUILDING THOSE ARE MEETINGS. THEN WE FILLED THEM IN WITH ADDITIONAL MEETINGS. AND DOUBLING THE DENSITY OF USE

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OF WHAT YOU HAVE NOW. WE WANTED TO DRIVE A BUSY AND

OCCUPIED BUILDING. >> WE CREATED A HIGHER DENSITY. WHAT MAY HAPPEN AND THEN THE ENERGY TEAM MODELED THE CONSUMPTION OF SOME VENTILATION AND SOME FORCED AIR CONDITIONED VENTILATION.

THAT'S ON THE LEFT THE CHART TO THE LEFT HERE SHOWS THE SUMMERTIME THE CONSUMPTION AND THE THIRD TIME.

THAT WENT TO PROVE UP OR TO ILL TRAIT WE NEED 400 DODGES.

SO DRIVE THE ENERGY OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR FOR A BUILDING THAT IS TWICE AS HEAVILY O OCCUPIED AND DOESN'T FULLY CAPTURE THE VENT LAYINGS THAT WILL BE DESIGNED IN.

WE KNOW SOME GROUPS WOMEN WANT EXACTLY RARE.

WE ANT TO GIVE THEM BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DIAL IT BACK AND MORE MORE YESIVE -- PROGRESSIVE.

AND FLEXIBLE. THE LONG AND SHORT, WE DETERMINED THE CONSUMPTION. THAT'S THE CALCULATIONS OF THE PHOTO OPAGUES AND 400 PANELS. THAT WAS THE FINAL PIECE OF THE PUZZLE FOR THE SYS SYSTEMS THE WINDOWS TO DO A.

BEFORE WE DO THE COST ESTIMATE. THE LEAD CALCULATION THE CRITERIA SCORES ATTRIBUTINGS AS TO THE SUSTAINABILITY.

WATER USE AND WE'LL DO RAIN WATER SELECTION WE CAN IRRIGATE WITH COLLECTED RAIN WATER. SCORING HIGH THE NATIONAL VENTILATION AND PRIORITIES. DEPENDING ON HOW WELL YOU SCORE. YOU GET AWA AWARDED GOALS.

THAT CAN BE HISTORIC. IT IS A COST ESTIMATE THE THINGS BEYOND THE SCOPE AND PANELS AND LANDSCAPING.

>> THE FINAL DESIGN IS A SCHEDULE THAT SHOWS US ASSUMING WE GET APPROVAL IT COULD BE READY FOR CONSTRUCTION NEXT SUMMER. MAKE THE BALANCE OF THIS YEAR AND THE HALF TO QUARTER TO COMPLETE THE DESIGN.

I APOLOGIZE FOR TAKING SO MUCH TIME, YOU HAVE A BUSY SCHEDULE. THERE IS A LOT HERE TO SHOW, I

DIDN'T WANT TO MISS ANYTHING. >> IT IS GREAT.

YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE BEFORE. >> THE GOVERNMENT IS CONSTRUCTION ONLY. SO IT HAS A THOUGHT PROCESS YOU NEED TO BUDGET MORE AND MAKE SURE YOU HAVE SOME DESIGN IN THERE. WHICH RUNS SAFE TO SAY.

>> THE POINT IS A MORE RACK STATE NUMBER BETWEEN 15 AND 18.

>> AAGREE. 15 TO 20 MILLION.

BECAUSE OF THE SCORING POTENTIAL AND THE LACK OF

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BUILDINGS IN T THE. AND MARIA MAY BE IN IN CLEANED SPOT. WE MENTIONED ON A COUPLE OF CALLS BUT NOT, WE WANTED TO HAVE THIS DONE.

THERE IS A SPECIAL GRANT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW THAT WE CAN APPLY FOR BUILDING RESILIENCY. THIS FALLS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION'S GOALINGS AND A PERFECT TRICK GRANT.

WE CAN APPLY TO 29 THO*ULD. THERE WILL BE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES IT CHECK AS LOT OF BOXES FOR HEALTHY, I WISH THE DOCTOR WAS STILL HERE. THE COMPONENTS OF THE GREEN WITH THE FOOD INSECURED AND WITH -- IT CHECKS SO MANY BOXES. THIS IS WHY --

>> CAN THEY DO JAILS. >> AND BUILD THE JAILS DO A JAIL, PROBABLY NOT. LET ME -- LET ME KNOW, I'LL BE HAPPY TO LOOK INTO IT. THAT IS NOT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE. I DON'T NOSE AV GRANT TO GIVE BAILS. HOWEVER, WE CAN LOOK.

THE COMMUNITIES IS JUST THINK ABOUT THE WORDS THEMSELVES.

IT IS ABOUT WHAT THE PROJECT GIVES.

THERE IS A GREAT ARTICLE ABOUT WHAT MAY QUALIFY.

LET MEASURE SEE IF ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD LOOK.

THIS IS SPECIAL. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR

PARTNER. >> , HE ACKNOWLEDGED YOU, AND EVERY ONCE IN A W BLUE MOON. ARE YOU GO TO - BE CAN ABOUT TO GET IT. WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THERE. IT STARTS WITH THE PRESENTATION AND OPEN THE FLOOR UP. TO ANY QUESTIONS AND THE POWER POINT. AND COMMISSIONER?

>> AND IT IS NO WONDERS ARE YOU RECOGNIZED.

I'LL TELL YOU I'M SKEPTY CAN WHEN IT WAS PUSHED TO DO SOMETHING. I THOUGHT I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE PLENTY OF TIMES YOU KNOW WHAT CAN YOU DO.

I'M EXCITED AND THE FUNDING IS.

AND SOME POSSIBILITIES THERE. I DIDN'T SEE THE PRESENTATION AND THE CONCEPT CAME UP. LET MEASURE ASK DAVID ABOUT FREED RECTIFIED. A POTENTIAL TO BE A LEAD PLATINUM. THAT IS A GREAT BRAGGING RIGHT TO HAVE, IT'S INCREDIBLE. THERE IS A HUMILITY.

IMPORTANT BUILDINGS MAKE A BIG SLASH.

THEY ARE VERY LOW KEY. THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD BUILDING AND JUST LIKE A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD YOU HAVE TO BE IN IT AND NOSE WHAT IT FEELS LIKE.

>> THIS IS A PROJECT IT CAN BE A GAME CHANGER ON A LEVEL.

HOW THEY EXPERIENCE PUBLIC SPACE AND HOW THEY LIVE IN THEIR COMMON SPACE TOGETHER. WHAT BETTER THAN MAKE THOSE THAT LIVE UP TO THE POTENTIAL. WE COULD NOT BE MORE EXCITED.

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IT IS A DOUBLE TAKE BUILDING. PEOPLE WILL SAY WHAT IS SO SPECIAL. THERE IS A LOT INTEREST.

>> FOR THOSE WHO WORRY ABOUT NEW.

ARE YOU TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE CONCRETE.

THE WAY IT IS PRESENTED IN THE SERPENTINE YOU GET THE FEELING OF ORIGINAL BUT SOMETHING IRONIC ABOUT THE FACT IT WAS A SANITORIUM AND HERE WE ARE TRANSFORMING IT FOR WELLNESS.

THERE IS SOME POETIC JUSTICE AND A VOTING CENTER.

THAT'S IS THE ROLE IT PLAYS. AS YOU SAID HISTORICALLY OLD NUECES. THE SITE OF OLD NUECES.

IT THERE ARE SO MANY GOOD THINGS HERE.

THE PRESENTATION EVOKES LIKE YOU SAID, DAVID, FURTHER DISCUSSIONS. ANY BANK QUESTIONS OF DAVID AT

THIS TIME? >> I HAVE A COUPLE YOU KNOW I'LL ASK YOU WHEN THE COMMISSIONER ASKED ME TO VISIT WITH HIM ABOUT THIS TO DISCUSS THE FACT THE PRIOR COURT HAD VETOED TO DEMOLISH. I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL FACILITY. WE TOURED THE FACILITY THE YES TO YOU WAS ABOUT MONEY. I REMEMBER WHEN I SAID CAN WE DO THIS FOR 8 TO 10 MILLION. YOU SAID WE CAN.

I DO HAVE TO ASK, THIS GRANT COMES THROUGH IT MAY NOT BE AS BIG OF A KWROBGTOR. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE COME UP

WITH 10. >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, WE WERE THINKING ZERO AND THE OPPORTUNITY IS RICH.

DO WE TEAR IT DOWN ADD PUT UP NEW.

>> WHAT DO YOU DO CAN WE DO EIGHT TO TEN MILNE.

ITDY DID NOT INCLUDE THE LAST TWO WEEKS.

WE HAD QUITE A FEW THAT SCORED. A MOVAL MILLION OF AFFORDABLE RACK. WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE BUILDING. IF YOU TAKE IT BACK TO ITS VERMONTAL ESTATE, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT WOULD BE A HUGED MISSED OPPORTUNITY. AND IT IS LIKE THE ICING ON THE CAKE. RYAN TO HAVE AN ETCH BUILDING FROM A POINT OF VIEW. RESILIENT THAT CHECKS ALL THE BOXES. IT DOES NOT NET THE NET ZERO.

>>> IF YOU TRICK THINGS OFF TO.

IT WOULD BE A GREAT PROJECT BUT NOT THIS ROARSCH I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ SAYING IT IS FORTH SAFING. COMING UP WITH I GOING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. AND NO MATTER WHAT WE DO.

THE COULDN'T SEPTEMBER WAS WORTH PRESERVING.

I'M, GENERAL. I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAY BEFORE. , BECAUSE OF YOU AND MR. HERNANDEZ AND YOU AND YOU KNOW LISTENING.

I THINK I CHANGED MY MIND. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND.

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I DON'T KNOW THE FUNCTION YOU MANAGED A COURT'S MIND.

GREAT PRESENTATION. YOU WERE AWESOME.

I HAVE BEEN FANS SINCE I WAS IN MY EARLY 20S.

I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.

, THAT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION TO HAVE.

THERE IS A BASELINE IS WORSE THAN THAT.

AND THE REASON YOU LOVE IT BECAUSE THAT'S DESIGNED THIS WAY. IT'S NOT REPURPOSE ISSUING A BUILDING. IF YOU DOUBT IT CHECK OUT THE WORTHS BUILDING. THE DIRECTIVE CAME WHEN THE PREVIOUS COURT HIRED HIM. WHAT IS GREAT IS THIS TO BRIEF LIVE THAT IS UNIQUE. YOU DON'T HAVE A GREAT PROJECT. WHAT IS EXCITING WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. THE SYSTEM HE SAID I WAY I SAY THINGS. WHAT THE HECK IS HE SAYING.

AND THEY ARE THE SOLAR ARRAY. THE NET ZERO.

THE LEAD CO CONCEPT. ST IS -- IT IS TO GIVE US A CHANCE TO DO SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY.

WE CAN BE A PLACE OF MEDIOCRITY OR TAKE SOME CHANGES AND.

I'M GLAD YOU LIKE THE IDEA WHAT MAKES IT CENTER IS THE DESIGN

NOT THE CHEAPER VERSION. >> ONE OTHER PARTYING COMMENT.

PEOPLE WONDER WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS IN ARCHITECTURE.

WE HAVE BETTER BEHIND STATE. KEY SON MAIM THIS IS WHAT THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE. THIS IS A -- OBVIOUSLY.

WE HOPE REPRESENTS THE BETTER MARTS OF THE BUT.

WELLNESS. IT'S NOT FANCY OR FUTURE.

IT IS ABOUT TOMB AND HEALTHS AND HAPPINESS.

WE HOPE WE CAN HELP YOU ACHIEVE IT.

>> THANK YOU FOR JOKING ON THIS ENDEVOR.

WHAT NOT ME TOGETHER I TALKED TO MY ASSIST CAPITAL.

I SAID I DON'T NOSE HOW TO GET HOLD OF I HEARD WERE YOU AGAINST IT. INDON'T KNOW HOW TO GET HOLD OF THE ARCHITECTS. IT WAS YOU.

>> WE DID NOT COLLUDE IN ADVANCE.

WE CAME FROM IT AT DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.

>> WHAT GOT ME SO, WE TALKED ABOUT THE ELEMENTARY SCH SCHOOLS BACK IN THE OLD DAYS. THAT'S HOW TILT WOULD GO.

>> I'M TEND YOU THREE TYNER A DOCUMENT.

I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT BRICK AND JOHN KNOWS THIS, ENSAY THIS WHEN IT WAS DEVELOPING.

CUZ DO THEM IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

I GOT TO SEE THIS THE ARTICLE CAN YOU READ IT.

CALLED BUILDING RESILIENCE WITH NATURE BASED SOLUTIONS.

IT IS SOMETHING I LEARNED THROUGH THE ASK CENTER.

AND ALLOW THE COURT TO DIGEST WHAT THE FUTURE THE WAY WE CAN APPROACH IT. AND WE HAVE TO STAY A BUDGET.

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AN AGENDA ITEM THAT LETS US GO THROUGH WITH THIS DESIGN WE COULD GO AFTER SO THE GRANT MONEY.

IF THAT DOES NOT WORK IN A PERIOD OF TIME WE CAN REVISIT IT BUT YOU WILL GET NOTHING IF YOU DON'T GO FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN THAT THIS IS THE ONE WE'LL GO GET THE DOLLARS FROM.

>> ARE YOU SUGGESTING A CONTINGENT.

>> TO DO THE GRANT WE HAVE TO SHOWCASE THIS.

WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT THAT BUT THIS IS THE RIGHT ONE. YOU KNOW IT WHEN YOU SEE IT.

WHEN YOU READ THIS, YOU'LL SAY MY GOODNESS THIS IS MEANT FOR THIS PROJECT. I HOPE THE GOVERNMENT SEES IT

THAT WAY. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU, GUYS. >> HANG ON ONE SECOND.

COMMISSIONER MAREZ SAID SOMETHING, I WISH I COULD REMEMBER. I WILL ASK YOU TO HELP ME IDENTIFY IT. RECENTLY BOTH OF YOU WERE ONORRED IN A SPECIAL SPAY. ELIZABETH.

WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE CALIBER OF ARCHITECTS WE HAVE WORKING IN THIS COURTHOUSE AND HILL TOP.

>> WE'RE DELIGHTED WE WERE NOMINATED TO THE LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD FROM THE TEXAS SOCIETY OF ARCHITECTS.

IT IS GOING TO BE AWARDED IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

, WE'RE PROUD IT MERITS THAT. >> WE WILL HEAR FROM SCOTT

[12. Presentation of the conceptual design features of the new Bob Hall Pier by Jacobs Engineering.]

CROSS. >> IF WE CAN DO 12 AND 10 AND

11. >> IF YOU WANT TO GET THAT.

>> WE'LL TEE THAT UP. >> TO FRAME IT.

SO, AND LEWIS, MYSELF AND SCOTT MARIS HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH THE YOU KNOW THEY ARE DOING THE PROGRAM MANAGER AND JACOBS THE ARCHITECTURE. WE HAVE BEEN DOING THEM REGULARLY TO GET TO THE POINT. WE WERE ABLE TO.

WE HAVE THIS BASED ON THE PUBLIC INPUT PIECE THE SURVEY WORK THIS IS COMPLETE AND SO I WANTED HIM TO PRESENT.

I WANT YOU TO YOU SEE THIS BEFORE ANYONE ELSE DID AND SO ONCE HE IS DONE SHOWING THIS TO YOU ALL GETTING INPUT.

THEN HE WILL GO TO COMMITTEE AND WHICH EVER COMES AND PRESENT IT TO THEM. ALL THE ELECTED PEOPLE ARE UP TO DATE AND READY TO GO WHEN WILL DOES HIS TOWN HALL AND THE PUBLIC CAN SEE IT. THAT'S HOW THIS IS GOING TO PROCEED. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO LEWIS RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE A HEATING WITH THE CORPS TOMORROW AT 2 P.M. AND WE DO TO KIND OF SEE IF THE DESIGNS WILL LET US DO THEM UNDER MINOR CHANGES.

>> OCTOBER 20TH. YOU DON'T KNOW ARE YOU INVITED. AND WE HAVE THE COL NET AND HIS TEAM WITH THE GLO COMING. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

THE COURT WILL HOST US. >> THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. IF YOU HAVE NOT GOT THEREIN.

IT JUST HAPPENED. >> GO AHEAD.

>> WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ALLOWS US TO PRESENT THIS AND WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS A SUMMARY OF THE COMMENTS AND.

PREVIEW OF THE WHAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED.

THEY ARE RANGE UP TO WHAT WILL BE GREAT TO HAVE, WE'RE MEETING

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WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.

WE DON'T WANT TO LEAD THE PUBLIC ON AND SAY WE WILL WORK IN THE PROCESS. WE'LL WORK.

IT IS AN PROCESS AND PRESENTING THIS TO TO YOU ALL.

MAKE REVISIONS. PRESENT AND ADDITIONAL AND PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC. THE PROCESS WILL COME IN AND SYNTHESIZE THAT EVERYONE WILL AND GO INTO THE FINAL DESIGN TO GET THIS BUILT. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE

ARCHITECT WHO DEVELOPED THIS. >> HAVE YOU DONE ANY COST

ANALYSIS. >> WE ARE DEVELOPING THE THAT'S IN THE BEGINNING THE COST OF A SECOND STORY ON THE RESTAURANT AND THE PAVILION. AND FIND OUT IF IT IS STRONG ENOUGH. IT IS.

WE'LL LOOK AND SEE HOW MANY AND WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE JUST TO MAKE SURE WE BUILD ON THAT TO MAKE SURE IT IS THE STRUCTURE OF THE SAME LIFE SPAN. WE DON'T WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT WILL LAST HALF AS LONG.

>> I WANT TO BE CAREFUL DOING IS OVER HYPING EXPECTATIONS.

AND IF YOU WANT TO BE AWARE AND GET PEOPLE FIRED UP AND SAY OOPS, CAN'T DO THAT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CAREFULFUL. , WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING A

SECOND STORY AND A -- >> I'M TALKING EVERYTHING.

NOT JUST THE SECOND STORY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE, WE'RE DOING STRUCTURAL CONCEPTS AND USE TO DEVELOP THE COST ESTIMATE. THAT WILL HAPPEN.

>> , LET'S DREAM BEFORE WE WAKE UP.

>> AND. >> WHERE DID HE COME FROM.

>> I WAS GOOD TO SIT HERE. >> AS AN ARCHITECT AREN'T

YOU INSPIRED. >> THE WAY TO DESCRIBE IT IDENTIFYING AN OPPORTUNITY WAS WELL SAID.

OFFER MY COMPLIMENTS THERE. WE HAVE PREPARED.

CIRCUMSTANCES THAT A GOOD DISTANCE.

>> WHAT WE HAVE PREPARED IS A VIED SHOW TO HAVE THE FIRST PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT MEETING. WE WANT TO SET THE RIGHT TONE WITH WHAT WE PREPARED T IS DREAMING AS WE WALK THROUGH THE SLIDES THE PRACTICAL SIDE OF BUILDING OUR PROGRAM.

WE SAW A WISH LIST AND PLACE MAKING AND HOW WE AMEN TIE THE PIER TO WORK FOR PEOPLE. WE WANT TO EXPAND THAT.

IF YOU CAN READ THAT THESE ARE THE RESULTS.

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AND THE BARS ARE STRONGLY AGREE.

IN PALE BLUE IS SOMEWHAT AGREE. THE FEED BACK WAS POSITIVE.

THEY ARE HIGHLY SUPPORTED. >> SO WE TRIED TO INCORPORATE THOSE AS WE LOOK AT THE CON EPTS WE'RE PRESENTING FINISHED

CONCEPTS. >> WE'RE TRYING TO DO, YOU KNOW THIS IS LIKE GOLDIE LOCKS IT IS TOO HOT OR COLD.

WE'RE LOOKING AT LEVELS AND WE GET PRICING AND WORK IT THROUGH WE'LL UPDATE THAT AND HONE IN ON A SOLUTION.

WE WANT A DISPLAY FOR PEOPLE TO RESPOND TO WHAT THEY SEE.

WE'LL GET BETTER FEED BACK A HELPS TO CAPTURE THE THOUGHT.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW THAT WORKS INTO THE CONCEPT.

WE TRIED TO APPROACH THIS NOT LOSING SIGHT IT IS A PIER.

WE THINK THERE IS. >> HOW MUCH FISHERMEN?

>> AND IT WOULD AVERAGE ABOUT 350 CLOUD -- 350,000 PEOPLE A YEAR. , ASIAN 1000 PEOPLE A DAY.

THE PEOPLE THAT VISIT AND THE REVENUE IS DONE SO BECAUSE OF FISHING. AT THE SAME TIME.

THERE ARE OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT TAKE PLACE.

DAILY VISITORS. WE WANT TO ENHANCE BUT EXPAND ON THE OTHER OFFERINGS. MAKE IT MORE OF AN AMENITY FOR PEOPLE. THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE PROGRAM. WE WANTED TO OUTLINE FROM AN EVENT PERSPECTIVE. WHAT WE ACCOMPLISH.

THIS IS THE PUBLIC END OF THE PIER.

THIS IS WHERE MAKAL MAZE IS LOCATED.

AND THE BEACH IS AT A HIGH ELEVATION.

WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE THE CONNECTIVITY TO THE BEACH AND MORE EVENTS AT THAT LOCATION. A PIECE OF FEED BACK WE GOT WAS TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL RESTROOMS AND CONCESSIONS.

, THESE ARE THE BUMP OUTS OR OTHER STRUCTURES THAT PROVIDE

FISHING OPPORTUNITY AND. >> THIS HAS BEEN BUILD AYE

DESTROYED HOW MANY TIMES. >> FOUR.

>> IT IS 1200 FEET BUT 300 FEET.

600 IT WAS 1200, REBUILD SHORTER AND THEN REBUILT

LONGER. >> WE LOOKED AT ARIEL IMAGERY THEY ALIGN. WE SAW THE TIE IN AND BUMP OUTS WE HAVE THE STRUCTURES FOR MISHER MEN.

AND GIVEN THE LENGTH THEY TIE IN WELL.

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>> AND A BREAK POINT. WE UNDERSTAND THAT POPULAR PEOPLE WHO ARE FISHING FOR SHARK AND OTHER.

>> THERE IS A NOAA STATION, IT IS OUT OF COMMISSION; AND WHETHER THAT RETURNS AND THIS IS A BIT OF A NICE TO HAVE AN ANCHOR. BUT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS

A DRAW OTHER THAN THE VIEW. >> THIS IS FOR YOUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PIECE. THIS IS A PICTURE COLLAGE THAT OUTLINES WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE AS WE START TO CONSIDER THINGS LIKE SHADE. IT CAN BE ARTFUL AND

FUNCTIONAL. >> WE HAVE FUNCTIONAL THINGS AND THE PIER IS SERVICED. AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW CONCERNS WE HEARD FROM FISHERMEN. EVERYONE WANTS THEM PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED WHAT THAT DOES FOR CASTING.

AND IT IS FIRST FOR FISHING. AND THERE IS A LOT WE CAN DO.

AND MAINTAINANCE UP AND DOWN WITH THE MAJOR WEATHER EVENTS BUT LESS EXPENSIVE AND OVERS WAYS TO DO COLOR, WE WOULD SAY DURABILITY IS THE PRIME CONSIDERATION WE ARE CAN DO LINGS LITERAL WITH THE MOTIF THINGS THAT ARE MODERN.

MAINTENANCE IS PARAMOUNT. A CONCERN WE HAVE IS THAT THERE IS NATURAL WEAR AND TEAR. METAL THERE IS AND THE HAVE A PICNIC BUT SIT AND EAT. THE FISHERMEN AND TOURISTS TO HAVE THE OFFERING. THEN THE DREAMING.

WE SEE SHADE AS A REQUIREMENT. THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN WORK IN. WE THINK ABOUT BEACH ACTIVITIES. A COMMENT ABOUT ADDING SPACE AND IT IS WE THINK ABOUT THAT IN TERMS WE'RE NOT RESERVING SPACE FOR WEDDINGS BUT MINDFUL OF WHAT IS HAPPENING SELLING ICE CREAM CONES. WE LIKE THE LOOK OUT POINT.

THERE IS A LOT OF WATER ACTIVITIES HAPPENING AND THEN AND THE PORCH SWING IS FUN TO THINK ABOUT.

IT CAN SUPPORT NIGHT FISHING THERE IS A REQUIREMENT.

THIS IS A 24 HOUR PEER. WE WANT TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE MAY INCORPORATE IT. AND IT IS HIGH.

THAT WAS A SURPRISE TO ME. >> THAT STOOD OUT.

>> AND I THINK THAT'S FOR SAFETY AS WELL.

, DON'T YOU THINK. THERE IS A REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE LIGHT TO TRAVEL THE BRIDGE AND IN A COORDINATED

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WAY. AND THERE ARE LIMITS TO THAT.

>> I THINK THAT THERE COULD BE A BIT OF AN ICONIC IMAGE.

LIGHT DOES THAT IN THE RIGHT WAY.

AND THAT'S NOT THE ENVIRONMENT BUT LIGHT THAT COULD CERTAINLY BECOME A PART OF THAT. AND ONE MORE SLIDE ON THE WE GOT INTO THE I WILL SAY WHAT IF THINGS.

THESE ARE ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE COORDINATED WITH THE CITY BUT DO WE THINK ABOUT SIGNAGE. PEOPLE TAKE SELFIE WHATEVER

THAT ICONIC PLACE IS. >> I LOVE THAT.

>>> I'M JUST SHOCKED. >> AND IT HAS A PRICE TAG.

>> I WANT TO KNOW FOR THE RECORD.

, YOU LIKE IT. >> KEEP GOING.

>> YOU GOT THEM. >> HANG ON MAYBE I SHOULD STOP

NOW. >> THAT IS COOL.

>> WE THOUGHT YOU NOSE THERE IS FISHI FISHING THAT TAKES PLACE, WE WERE PART OF THE MEETINGS, WE WERE LISTENING IN. WE NOSE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT SURF AND DO THE WATERSPORTS.

THE ICONIC YOU TOLD UP THE CATCH OF THE DAY AND IT HAS THE

MEASUREMENTS. >> I KNOW NOT EVERYTHING.

>> WHERE YOU HANG IT. >> AND WE'RE TRYING TO CAPTURE THE MOMENTS, IT'S NOT THE BEAN BUT THE CHICAGO BEAN BEING WHERE THEY TAKE THE SELFIE AND INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE

EXPERIENCE. >> SCOTT IS DYING TO SAY SOMETHING. LOOK AT THE HANDRAIL SYSTEM

THERE. >> THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I LIKE IT IS LIKE A STATEMENT AND WITH A WOOD YOU KNOW TOP.

AND WOOD SLATS OP-ED OPEN FEELING.

>> IT IS MORE OPEN AND IT LOOKS COOL.

>> I'M CLEANING TOWARD THAT. IT IS SAFE AND THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT WE AN AIR SPACE BETWEEN ILL WILL SAY THE LADDER EFFECT AND PEOPLE WILL CLIMB A HORIZONTAL RAIL THAN A VERTICAL RAIL. THAT WE CAN CONSIDER.

THEY ARE MORE OF A DETERRENT FOR CLIMBING AS POLYPED TO WHAT WOULD BE. THAT'S FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

THE TRANSPARENCY OF A RAIL IS GREAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE SEATED.

SO BENCHES AND FISHER MEN WATCHING THEIR LINES.

>> I THINK THAT'S IT FOR THIS SLIDE.

>> AND WE JUST DID SOME BASIC DIAGRAMS TO PROVIDE SOME OF THAT SENSE OF SCALE. AND THE FIRST DIAGRAM IS WHAT WE CALL IT IS THE SAME THING BUT THE 50 YEARS.

WE WANT TO FRIEND THAT AS A BASELINE AND THE SHADE AND THE FURNITURE THAT ALL HAPPENS ON THE B BACKBONE THAT'S THE PEER. WHAT THE BASE SITUATION IS.

YOU SEE THE WATERS IT IS VERTICAL AND THE SANDBARS.

NOW CAN YOU SEE WHERE THE HISTORY CHANCELLOR PLACEMENT OF THE PIER HEAD ALIGNS WITH SOME OF THE DEEPER WATER.

SO WE LIKE THAT AND GIVEN THE COMFORT OF THAT.

DID START TO DRIVE OUR RECOMMENDATION TO PLACE THOSE EXTENSIONS OR BUMP OUTS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE DEEPER WATER. HOW DO WE EXACT THE SPACE AT

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THE ENTRANCE TO THE PEER TO INVITE MORE VISITORS ON TO THE PIER. WE HAVE ON THE NORTH SIDE THE REBUILD. AND YOU CAN CHECK SOME OF THE NOTES HERE. WE ARE DOING COST ANALYSIS.

>> AND THEN WHAT WE LOOKED AT AND A COVERED PUBLIC CASE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PIER. THIS IS MORE LIKE THE BIG DECK IF YOU WILL. IT COULD BE COVERED.

COULD NOT BE. BUT WE START TO THING OF THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE THE PORCH SWING, PICNIC TABLES.

IT TIES WITH THE CONCESSIONS. THAT WE MAY INCLUDE.

>> IF WE GO ONE MORE SLIDE. WE HERE WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE RESTAURANT AS KIND OF A BASIS AND SAID RIGHT NOW AND IT IS WHAT IS CLOSE TO THE ENTRANCE TO THE PIER AND THE DINING PAVILION IT ACTUALLY ELIMINATES THE POSSIBILITY OR THE ABILITY TO HAVE 270-DEGREE VIEWS FROM THE DINING AREA.

RATHER THAN EXPAND WE ROTATE IT SO WE TAKE THE BACKSIDE OF THE RESTAURANT, THE SWITCHEN SIDE AND THE EXHAUST SIDE AWAY FROM THE ENTRANCE AND THEN WHAT THAT DOES.

THAT LETS THE DINING ROOM TO ROTATE IT COULD HAVE USE AND SOUTH AND TO T THE EAST. WE HAVE THE VIEWS.

>> AND THE BACK OF THE BUILDING IS HERE.

ADD THEN SIDELINES INTO THE PEER BUILDING.

TELL ME. >> WE SHOULD INVEST IN.

I MAY HAVE ONE IN THE OFFICE. >> AND IF YOU FOLLOW THE MOUSE. THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE RECEIVE THAT IS THE GRILLS AND COOKING THE NORTH END HERE.

THAT IS THE DINING PAVILION. AND THE PLAN WEST SIDIVE THE DINING PAVILION IS LOOKING INLAND NOT OUT TO THE WATER OR UP AND DOWN THE BEACH. WE STARTED TO WONDER IF THEY WOULD INFORM MAYBE REBUILDING IT IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ORIENTATION BE BENEFICIAL TO MOVE THE BACK OF THE HOUSE OF THE RESTAURANT FROM THE PIER ENTRY AND THE DINING ROOM WOULD ROTATE THE VIEWS ARE UP AND DOWN.

WHERE WOULD YOU PUT THAT? THAT'S --

>> WITH THE ROTATED PLAN. >> OKAY.

>> THE EXHAUST IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE OF THE RESTAURANT WOULD BE HERE. THE DINING ROOM, IN REALITY.

IN THE PLACE. WE'RE ROTATING TO THE SOUTH ARE THEN AVAILABLE FROM THE, WE DON'T WANT TO GET TOO MUCH INTO

THE DESIGN RIGHT NOW. >> AND THE CURRENT WIDTH IS HOW

WIDE? >> 15 FEET.

>> WE ARE KEEPING. >> WE'RE PROPOSING TO KEEP IT

AT 15 FEET. >> CURIOSITY I DON'T WENT TO GET INTO WEEDS. SCOTT CROSS WANTED IT WIDER BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT ACCESSIBLE.

ARE YOU WILLING TO LOOK AT THAT LATER?

>> , WE'LL GO TO THE WORLD COURT TOMORROW WE GET THE 25 FEET. AND THIS DID NOT CHANGE.

AND SOCK WE'RE GOOD. AND THAT IS COOL.

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WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. >> THE KEY IS GETTING A PERMIT QUICKLY AS A MINOR MODIFICATION THAT IS SCARE FOOTAGE.

AND IT IS A MINOR MODIFICATION.

>> VERY MINOR. >> VERY MINOR.

>> GOD IT. THAT'S IN THE ROW TATED RESTAURANT IT IS NOW. THERE IS UNTILING INVOLVING THE COURT. WE NEVER WANTED TO GO LONGER WE'RE PLEASED WITHS THE LENGTH.

AND TICK YOUR BRAIN HERE YOU HAVE ADJUSTED THE TEE THAT PROVIDES FOR, DO YOU BUMP OUT OR WIDEN THE PISH.

WE'RE JUST STARTING THIS NOW. >> I UNDERSTAND.

>> KEEP GOING. >> WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

>> WE'RE VERY CROCE TO THE END.

THE THING WE DISCUSSED AND YOU SAW ON THE COVERAGE THE WAY IT BROKE OFF IS AT THE T, THAT'S THE WEAKER PORTION OF THE PIER. I'LL NOT SAY THAT THIS HE'S ALLEVIATED THIS. BUT TO DO SOMETHING TO STRENGTHEN THE TO KIND OF MAKE IT MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL ADD TO THE AREAS WHERE IT IS HELPFUL AND STRENGTHEN THE WEAK POINT.

>> I'M SURE. >> JACOBS CAN REMODEL THE STRENGTH HERE. DEGREE CAN CREATE THAT; WE KNOW IS A NORMAL SURGE, VERY MUCH SO.

THE STRUCTURAL MODELS ARE BEING DEVELOPED.

>> THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE WORK THAT YOU CAN DO.

DEPENDING ON THE CONVERSATIONS GO.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WITH SCOTT.

THE PIER IS 15 FEET TO RUN IT DOWN THE PIER UNIMPEDED.

YOU NEED 10 FEET. YOU ADD A BENCH IN THE AREA YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH ROOM LEFT OVER FOR THE LEGS OF THE PERSON ON THE BENCH. THEY WANT TO LOOK OUT ADDING WIDTH IS GREAT. IF WE CANNOT.

WE WANT TO ADD AREA BUT IT IS A VIABLE TO HAVE, WE PROVIDE A RESPONSE FOR FIRST RESPONDERS. THAT'S A LONG WAY TO GO TO CARRY SOMEONE BACK WHO IS HAVING A HEART ATTACK OR A STROKE. THIS IS KEY AND EVERYTHING WE DO. YOU CAN STRESS THAT TO THEM.

SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT. >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU PICKED UP ON THIS. IN THIS CONCEPT WHEN YOU FLIP THE RESTAURANT, YOU KNOW, KITCHEN AREA.

NOW YOU HAVE A PATIO SPACE THAT IS SERVICEABLE.

WHICH YOU NEVER HAD BEFORE. >> YOU GET THE OPPORTUNITY LET'S SAYS THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO GO TO A YOU CAN HAVE A CONCESSION NOT UNHAPPIY THINGS LIKE CHIPS AND CANDY BARS OR SANDWICHES WHICH ARE READY THAT THAT CONTRACTOR OR THAT CONCESSION PERSON CAN HAVE A DIFFERENT TYPES OF CONCESSION THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR SOMEONE PICKING IT UP AND PICNICS ON

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THE BEACH. WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

WE HEARD THEY WOULD LIKE THAT. IT IS A SORT OF UNDER 10-DOLLAR

TYPE OF MEAL. >> WE HEARD THAT IN SOME OF THE EXPANDED OPTIONS. WE SEE THE OPPORTUNITY THERE.

>> AND MORE MONEY FOR THE COULDN'T.

WE LIKE THAT. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> WE DO OPERATE THE GUARD SHOCK.

WE DO SELL SUNDRYS OUT THEREOF AND TACKLE AND BAIT.

WOULD YOU BE AMAZED AND MAKE ON THEM.

AND SO. WE'RE STILL HAVING THAT COMPONENT AND WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME ADJUSTMENTS WITH THE PUBLIC RESTROOM PEACE AND RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE.

THERE HAS BEEN A DISCUSSION AND THE END OF IT.

THE REASON WHY THE GRAFT FLOW WE HAVE TO HAVE WITH THE SEWER LINE THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO GET WHAT WE NEED TO GET THAT.

>> YOU NOSE IT IS CURRENTLY FROM WELL IF YOU ARE OUT THERE. AND THE BIGGEST THING AND THE

TACK TOLL GO TO THE BATHROOM. >> LET'S NOT BE PREJUDICE AGAINST THE WOMEN HERE. THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

>> SURE THAT MAKES -- I'M GLAD YOU EXPLAINED IT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THE LAWS OF PHYSICS TO DEAL WITH HERE.

>> WE LOOKED AT IT. I LOOK AT EVERY SI SINGLE PIER THAT'S BEEN REBUILT. AND GET THE IDEAS THE DECKING SYSTEM YOU LOOK AT THE PIERS AND WOOD CONNECTING AND CONCRETE CURBING AND NOW THE DECKING BLOWS OUT SO THE PIER AND THEN I GUESS YOU JUST GO BUILD NEW DECK PANELS.

AND THE OTHER THING I LIKE THE WOOD DECKING WE CAN GET TO THE 88 COMPONENT AND THAT WILL NOTE MATCH UP WELL.

THE OTHER THING WHEN THE CONCRETE BLOWS OUT, THE FIRST THING IT COMES IN AND HITTINGS THE PILINGS, YOU HAVE SPAULLING PROBLEMS. WE HAD TO FIX AFTER IKE.

GIVE WE GET TO A MORE HE DECKING SYSTEM IT IS SHARP,

TOO. >> THAT'S GREAT.

I THINK WE'RE READY TO TAKE TIME FROM EVERYONE.

WE'RE EXCITED TO GET. >> AND AND THE RYAN TURNER AND THE COMMITTEE AND FOR THEIR CERTIFICATES WORK ON GETTING PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT AND A HISTORICAL 1700 COMMENTS PLUS THAT ARE STILL COMING IN AND SO THE NEXT STAGE IS REALLY STRENGTHENED BY THE WORK OF THE COMMITTEE AND GIVING YOU THE INPUT. THEY ARE OUR TENTACLES.

AND AND A SURFER. THERE IS A BEACH SAFETY AND THEY ARE LEADING A CAST OF STAKE HOLDERS AND SO I THINK THAT THEY DESERVE MENTION. THEY HELPED US COME TO THE SPOT. AND RECOGNIZE PETTIS ADVERTISING AND TO JUST HELP US BRING IT ONLY ON SLIDE NUMBER 1 AND OF COURSE THE TEAM OF JACOBS.

ARE YOU FIRST CLASS. A PLEASURE, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTINUED WORK. AND WE'LL HAVE A MAE AND COMMISSIONERS CAN ASK A FORM. AND MAYBE SCOTT CAN BRING THAT HOME A DATE WE HAVE SET BUT GET US ONE.

PERFECT. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.

>> AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY BRAVO.

I KNOW THAT EVERYONE IS EXCITED.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE PRELIMINARY PLANS THE COMMUNITY WILL,KY NOT TELL YOU HOW MANY PHONE CALLS AND TEXT MESSAGES.

I GET STOPPED TEN DAMES A DAY. EVERYONE IS EXCITED.

THEY SAY I TOOK PART OF THAT SURVEY.

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EXCITING TO KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY IS PLAYING ATTENTION. AND WE HAVE COMMISSIONER CHESNEY MAKING SURE WE STAY ON TRACK.

THAT IS EXCITING TO SEE US MOVE FORWARD.

THEY ARE EXCITED AND THEY ARE ASKING WHEN SO NOW I CAN SAY WE HAVE THE PRACTICAL PLANS. WE'LL START AFTER TALKING TO SCOTT CROSS STARTING PLANS ON THE DEMO.

WE CAN MAKE THIS WORK. EVERYONE IS PAYING ATTENTION.

PEOPLE I HAVE NEVER MET RECOGNIZE ME.

AREN'T YOU MAKAL MAYS. SOMETHING EXCITING.

>> IT IS EXCITING. >> THANK YOU.

, I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS TIME LINE AND WHERE ARE WE?

>> AND SO PEOPLE I NOSE A ARE DIEING TO KNOW HOW THIS IS MOVING ALONG. IT IS ALL KIND OF GERMANE TO THIS WHERE WE ARE ON THOSE THINGS.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> I'LL LET MICHAEL ANSWER YOUR YOU CAN EAST THE REST. DO YOU WANT TO.

YOU START. THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS TO KNOW.

WE DID TRANSMIT TO SCOTT CROSS THE TRANSMITTAL PLANS TO THE DEMOLITION OF THE PIER. WE EXPECT THE COMMENTS AND TURN

THE DOCUMENTS AROUND. >> ON THE DEMO.

AND REMOVE THAT FEAR BEFORE YOU KNOW TURT.

NESTING SEASON NEXT YEAR. >> THAT'S A BIG DEAL.

, WE HAVE BEEN WAITING ON THAT.

>> AND WE HAVE NOT FINISHED IT.

ARE YOU 90% NOW. >> AND THAT'S AWESOME.

>> BECAUSE WE HAVE THE CONTRACT.

ARE YOU DOING THAT FOR THE DEMO.

>> AND MAYBE BEST CASE. AND WE DON'T OVERSHOOT THE EXPECTATIONS. WHEN SHOULD WE DEM LOLLISH THE PIER. NOT PERFECTLY BUT REASONABLY.

, AND HOY ABOUT IF WE SAY, FOR DEMO AND WHATEVER THAT IS.

THE THOUGHT ON WHEN POSSIBLY AGAIN NOT BEST CASE BUT NOT WORSE CASE START CONSTRUCTION ON THE PIER.

>> FORETHAT THERE. WE BELIEVE THAT, IT IS GETTING IT SUBMITTED FOR PERMIT. NOW WE'RE EXPECTING 9 TO 12 MONTHS TO GET A PERMIT WITH A MINOR MODIFICATION.

AFTER OUR MEETING WITH THE CORPS TOMORROW.

WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA AS TO WHAT IS A MINOR MODIFICATION

AND WHAT THE TIME LINE IS. >> NINE TO 12 SUBMITS AFTER WE SUBMIT THE PERMIT. IT IS PROBABLY SIX MONTHS FROM NOW. I DON'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF OF MY HEAD. MR. CHESNEY, WHAT THE DATINGS

WERE. >> I'M MAKING SURE THAT 9 TO 12 MONTHS AFTER YOU SUBMIT FOR THE PERMIT? WHAT ABOUT SIX MONTHS. MAYBE I'M NOT FOLLOWING YOU

WELL. >> DO YOU REMEMBER.

>> I GET A LOT OF PEOPLE ASKING I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL THEM OTHER THAN THE ENGINEER IS WORKING ON IT.

IF YOU COULD, MAYBE JUST SEND A GUESSTIMATED.

WE HAVE SOME THING WE'RE SINGING OFF THE SAME CHOIR

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SHEET. >> I WILL UPGRAFT THE PROPOSAL FOR THE KEY DATES HE WILL DISTRIBUTE IT.

>> ONE THING I'M GOING TO ADVOCATE WITH THE BIG OCTOBER MEET SOMETHING THE BIFURCATION.

THERE IS NO REASON WE CANNOT PURSUE A RESTAURANT REMODEL WHILE THE PERMIT IS TAKING PLACE FOR THE PIER.

THERE IS NO IMPACT TO THE PERMIT VIOLENCE SOMETHING WERE CHAN CHANGING. THAT REQUIRES DIFFERENT WAYS OF THINKING THAN THEY ARE ACCUSTOMED TO.

WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME JOHN AND I WE SPENT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HOURS WERE WITH THE NCDC WORKING ON THE CORPS OF ENGINEER DEVELOPMENT. WORKING WITH THE ENGINEERS.

SETTING THE TABLE AND STAGE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE INAT THING RIT CITY; THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO GET DONE ANDER IN REVENUE BUILDING AND MORAL.

WE SEE THE PEER. THE RESTAURANT IS A RESTAURANT,

DOES THAT HELP? >> WE'RE READY TO HELP HOWEVER

WE CAN TO DO THAT. >> PHASE ONE IS BUILDING UP TO THE RESTAURANT. UP TO THE TIDE LINE.

>> WHERE THERE IS NO PERMIT IS NEEDED.

>> THE RESTAURANT IS SITTING ABOVE THE MEAN HIGH TIDE LINE.

THIS WILL BE A LEGAL ARGUMENT BUT.

WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IN YOUR EXPERIENCE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE RESTAURANTS AND HERE AND NEVER THE TWO SHALL MEET PROJECT

WISE. >> WE DID THE OBSERVATION DECK AND WORKING ON THAT PERMIT PROCESS.

IT WAS OBVIOUS ONCE THEY SAW THAT THE FOOT PRINT WAS ABOVE THE TIDE LINE THEY SAID YOU ARE OUTSIDE OF THE JURISDICTION.

IT DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY FURTHER ACTION.

WE'RE DONE. BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE TO CONSULT WITH THE OTHER AGENCIES THINGS LIKE THAT, I'M SOUD OF THAT AND DOES NOT GO OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT THAT IS LIKE PART OF THAT. AND FIX THIS AND WE'RE OUTSIDE OF THE JURISDICTION. THE SURVEY TO SHOW IT.

AND BEING THAT WE DON'T HAVE A PIER KNOCKING DOWN AND FACTOR THAT INTO THIS. AND A RAMP TO GET, WE CAN DO ANOTHER AND WE NEED TO DO THEM ANYWAY JUDGE.

THE COMMISSIONER. >> THEY TAKE THEY LOOK AT IT.

THEY LOOK AT WHERE THAT IS. AND A QUARTER OF THAT PILE THEY WILL MAKE A THEIR OWN DETERMINATION WHETHER THAT IS A

MORE OF AN IMPACT. >> MOST OF THE TIME IT'S NOT.

AND SO ANYTHING THAT WE DO EVEN IF THAT IS CONNECTED RIGHT NOW. WE GET DONE WITH THAT WE GO BACK AND START TO REBUILD THIS THING WE'RE GOING TO START FROM

THE GROUND. >> I THINK WE AND.

>> WE HAVE A GOOD. >> A RESTAURANT AND TWO PROJECTS. THE PIER TAKES LONGER.

>> AND SHOULDN'T TAKE AS LONG. >> AND SO YOU KNOW THAT WHAT IS KEY HERE THE MEAN HIGH HIGH TIDE.

WE HAVE A GOOD STRATEGY. WE HAVE THE MEETINGS SET UP.

WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PROCESSES.

IT IS STEP ONE BUT I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY DRIVE HOME IS THAT IT IS OUR PROBLEM TO FIGURE OUT HOUSES TO GET AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ESTABLISH IF WE GET THAT RESTAURANT UP

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AND RUNNING FOR GOOD REASON AND NOT AFFECT THE MEDIAN HIGH HIGH TIDE WE WORK ON THE RESTAURANT AS A SEPARATE ISSUE WITH JACOBS. THAT'S HOW YOU WIN THE DAZE.

AND THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT STRATEGY.

>> AND YOU KNOW ONE THING TOMORROW THAT WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT IS THAT, AND WE WERE DOING AN INKIND RECOVERY AND KEEPING ALL THINGS THE SAME. AND IF THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND OUT. DO THE CHANGES WE'RE ASKING FOR. WILL THEY ADD ANYTHING.

WILL THEY ADD TO THEY ARE MINOR, IF THEY ARE MAJOR.

>> CORRECT. SUPER.

THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION T IS AVAILABLE FOR ALL OF US, CONNIE HAS A THUMB DRIVE. WE'LL GET IT TO EVERYONE NO OTHER QUESTIONS WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

WHEN WE GET TO IT. TO THAT POINT I'M WITH THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF MATERIALS THAT WILL CREATE THE RESILIENCY.

I DON'T KNOW. NOBODY HAS I THOUGHT I WOULD OFFER THAT BRICK IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE PEER T IS NOT AVAILABLE. WHY I DID NOT RECOMMEND THAT, IT IS NOT AVAILABLE IT CREATES AN INELIGIBILITY FOR THAT FUNDING. BUT I -- BUT I BELIEVE IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THE MAXIMUM IMPACT, THE MEXICO REVENUE FOR THE FUTURE. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE ELEMENTS WILL COST DOWN TO THE ELECTRIC SEESAW.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IS OUT THERE.

WE HAVE BEEN A COMMUNITY STARVED.

LET'S PROVIDE A BUFFET AND FIND OUT WHAT IS OUT THERE FOR PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS AND GRANTS AND, FRANKLY.

>> IF YOU BUILT IT CORRECTLY ARE YOU BUILDING IT FOR 50 YEARS PLUS, PLUS. MAYBE 75 OR 100.

WE HAVE TOSSED 50 TO 100 YEARS I USE THE FLOORS NOT THE CELLING. THE MATERIALS OUT THERE WERE NOT THE MATERIALS OF 1980 WHEN THE PIER WAS BEING CRAFTED FOR A 1983 OPENING. IT'S NOT.

SO THAT'S GOING TO WEIGH HEAVY INTO THE MAXIMUM ECONOMIC IMPACT. WE'RE A WHO USY ABOUT DOING CASH FLOW ANALYSIS AND FUTURE ECONOMIC IMPACT.

WE'LL CHANGE THAT, YOU CANNOT MAKE A DECISION UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT IT CAN YIELD YOU. IT'S NOT LEASE PAYMENTS.

>> I'M GREATFUL FOR BEING THE FACILITATOR THEY WILL DO THINGS

LIKE THAT. >> PLEASE COST ESTIMATE AS MANY THINGS AS MAKE SENSE. DON'T STAY -- STAY WITH THE PARAMETERS THAT YOU SHARED BUT DOWN TO THE LEADERS.

THAT SAY BOB HALL. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE COST SO WE CAN MAKE GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS OUT THERE.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NOBODY -- WE THINK THE PUBLIC.

FOR SOME GUIDANCE. YOU DO A GREAT JOB OF MAKING US THINK. WE APPRECIATE THAT.

>> ALL RIGHT. GREAT, JACOBS, ARE YOU

[13. Discuss and consider approval of repurposing all available concrete from the demolition of the existing Bob Hall Pier to be used for Corpus Christi Nearshore Reef Site managed by Texas Parks and Wildlife Department (TPWD).]

DISMISSED NOTICE YOU WANT TO STAY BUT SCOTT TOUGH MOVE ON TO 13. PLEASE.

>> AND THIS IS ALONG THE SAME LINE, 13 IS A DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF REPURPOSING OF THE CONCRETE FROM THE PIER TO A REEF SITE. YOU HAVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT.

AND FROM THE CHIEF OF THE MARINE FINISHRYS AND THIS IS THE REEF PROJECT T IS PERMITTED.

OF THE GLO IS WORKING WITH US ON THIS.

AND I HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF INPUT VERBALLY FROM CCA AND SEA AND IF WE COULD DO THIS. YOU HAVE A MAP.

>> HE IS DOING THAT. THIS IS A COOL THING.

I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT ON THE AGENDA.

THIS IS MAKING LEMONADES OUTSIDE OF LEMONS TAKE THAT AND CREATE THIS. I THINK 28640 AREA OUT THERE

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THAT'S BEEN PURPOSED. >> THIS A REEF PROJECT.

ONE OF THE NGOS, THIS IS A THEY HAVE REPORTED IN THE MATERIALS OUT THERE. AND LEWIS WORKED WITH DR. SHIPLEY FOR HOW THE STUFF HAS TO BE PLACED ON THE REEF.

YOU HAVE THE CONCRETE NO MORE THAN AN INCH OF REBAR STICKING OUT. YOU HAVE TO BE SO MANY FROM THE WATER. AND SO.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THE REASON WHY THIS IS A WIN-WIN FOR US WE TAKE SOMETHING AND REPURPOSE IT.

AND BUT THIS COULD GET -- THIS WILL CUT OUR COST OF THAT PIER IN HALF. THEY WILL TAKE THIS APART AND PUT IT ON A BARGE. IF WE TAKE IT TO A LAND DESTINATION. BARGE IT TO A PLACE THEY DEBARK AND TAKE IT OFF AND PUT IT ON EQUIPMENT TO WHATEVER THE FINAL DESTINATION IS. YOU ARE THREE TIMES HANDLING IT. IT IS ON THE BARGE THEY GO OUT AND SHOVE IT OFF THE

BARGE. >> THEY HAVE TO MONITOR THE HEIGHT OF IT. THE FIRST COUPLE OF TRIPS WE HAVE THAT TPWD WILL ESCORT THEM OUT TO GET IT DONE AND ALL SAID

AND DONE. >> DID THE GLO SIGN OFF ON THIS. THEY GAVE THEM THE LEASE.

>> THE LEASE. >> AND THEY ARE REALLY GOOD.

>> RENEE GOT MEASURE CONNECTBLED DR. SHIPLEY.

I ASKED HIM TO RUN ALL OF THESE RABBITS IT WAS NOT THAT MUCH TO IT. I GOT IT WITT DR. SHIPLEY AND THE MAPS AND STUFF SO -- WE'RE GOOD TO GO.

I WANTED TO MEMORIALIZE THIS. THERE ARE NO PER PERMITS OR PAPERWORK TO DO. WE'RE DONATING.

, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK. WOULD YOU ASK PARKS AND WILDLIFE TO HAVE A DOCUMENT, I MEAN, WE WANT TO VIDEO THAT OR DOCUMENT THAT EVERY TIME YOU GET SOMETHING ON FIELD, ALL IT DOES IS HELP YOU AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL GET MORE MONEY.

THIS IS A, WE WANT TO GET IT DOCUMENTED COMING OFF THE BARGE AND GOING OUT WITH THE EXPERTS.

>> ALL THREE PHASES AND INTERVIEWS WITH THAT.

IN THE INTEREST OF TIME IS THERE A MOTION TO CONSIDER THE

APPROVAL? >> SO MOVED.

>> AND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. SECOND AND.

[10. Receive an update and presentation of the Nueces County Monitoring program contracted through the Conrad Blucher Institute to measure the impacts of Hurricane Hanna along the Nueces County Gulf shoreline, beaches and dunes.]

>> NOW WE'LL MOVE TO NUMBER 10.

WHICH IS THE MONITORING PROGRAM WITH MEASURE THE IMPACTS OF HURRICANE HANNA. WE HAVE A BASELINE.

AND IT IS REQUIRED. IT HELPS US GET MORE DOLLARS TO THE BEACH RENOURISHMENT AND RUN THROUGH THE THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE HEARD. AND COMMISSIONER GONZALES AND CH CHESNEY MAY HAVE HEARD THIS.

WE'RE REQUIRED UNDER THE DO A SURVEY THE HIGH TIDE LINE AFTER AN EVENT LIKE HARVEY. WE WENT OUT.

WE'RE GETTING ONE SURVEY LINE. ONE STAMP IN TIME IT'S NOT DOING A LOT TO TELL US ABOUT WHAT THE HEALTH OF THE BEACH IS WHERE WE HAVE PROBLEMS AND SUCCESSES, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE THE MAINTENANCE TECHNIQUES. AND HANNA DID MASSIVE EROSION.

>> ITS TO NOT HAVE ENGINEERED BEACHES.

THE COUNTY GOT IN. NOW LISTEN TO THIS PAY CLOSE ATTENTION. IT HAS A BEACH MANAGEMENT

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PLAN. AND IT IS THE GOVERNING DOCUMENT THAT'S APPROVED BY THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR HOW WE DO PERMITTING AND BEACH MANAGEMENT. AND THAT'S THE GOVERNING DOCUMENT. AND.

THAT'S IMPORTANT. THEN WE WENT AND GOT A JOINT EROSION RESPONSE PLAN. WE DID THE JOINT REROGUES RESPONSE PLAN. THE COASTAL EROSION FUNDING THAT THE STATE AT THE LEVEL FOR BEACH RENOURISHMENT.

AND THE CITY DEPENDED ON THAT TO FOR MAINTAINING THE CHANNEL. WE HAD THIS PLAN.

IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED AND UNTIL WE START MONITORING UNDER THE CORPS PERMIT. WE DIDN'T HAVE THE WE REALIZED WE HAD IMPACTS. THE THING IN HARVEY, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN PICTURES. A CHUNK OF THE BEACH GOT WASHED AWAY IN PORT ARANSAS. , WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SAND TO REPAIR IT. WE HAD NO WAY OF GOING TO THE FEMA PROGRAM THIS QUALIFIES, WE HAD NO BASELINE DATA.

NO PREVIOUS DATA WHERE WERE WE PRESTORM VERSUS POST-STORM.

WE HAD AN ISSUE. WE WENT TO WORK.

AND WE COLLECTED DATA FROM THE JETTY TO PADRES ISLAND.

WE OWN 4000 ACRES DOWN THERE WITH JUNE STRUCTURES AND KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE BEACH.

THAT BEING SAID. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND WHIP THROUGH THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU ALL.

SHE WILL GO QUICKLY HERE AND THERE IS A LOT OF STUFF HERE.

SO, AT ANY TIME PLEASE INTERRUPT AS WE QUESTIONS DON'T WAIT THERE IS A LOT TO GET THROUGH.

>> GO. >> THANK YOU, SCOTT.

>> SCOTT IS THE VISIONARY HERE.

I DID WANT TO STRESS INTERRUPT ME BECAUSEKY NOT BE WITH YOU AND CHECK FOR VISUAL CUES YOU WILL HAVE TO INTERRUPT.

THAT'S FINE WITH ME. GOOD TO BE HERE AND PROVIDE SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE BEEN GATHERING DESCRIBING THE CHANGES THAT OCCURRED ALONG THE BEACHES DURING THE 2020 STORM SEASON, THIS TIME LAST YEAR, AS OF YESTERDAY LAST YEARMENT WE HAD FOUR STORMS UNDER OUR BELT.

WE HAD ONE MORE ON THE WAY. AND EACH STORM ADDED TO THE TO THE DAMAGE THAT HAPPENED DURING HANNA.

IT WAS A, WE HAD AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF HIGH WATER.

WE HAD THE HIGH WATER PERIODS FROM JULY THROUGH NOVEMBER AND INTO DISEASE. THE TEACHES WERE INUNKATED.

WE SAW THE MOVEMENT OF SAND. WHEN THE WATERS RECEDED, WE HAD WHAT I CALLED FEAST AND FAMINE A LOT OF SAND IN PLACES WE DIDN'T WANT IT AND EROSION IN OTHER PLACES.

>>> IT WAS SHORTLY AFTER HANNA WHEN WE SAT DOWN AND STARTED TO BRAIN STORM. THE DAMAGE WAS STRIKINGLY VISUAL ALONG THE BEACHES. WEE KNEW WE WANTED TO QUANTIFY IT. WE STARTED TO -- A LIST.

OUR GOALS IS WHAT WE CAME UP WITH.

THE FIRST GOAL WAS TO DOCUMENT THE POST 2020 HURRICANE SEASON DAMAGE TO THE BEAR ER ISLANDS AMONG MUSTANG AND PADRE ISLAND. WE COULD QUANTIFY THE CHANGE.

WE WERE RICH IN THE AREA WHERE THE PROJECT MONITORED BY THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI PROVIDED GREAT BASELINE DATA.

WE WERE DATA POOR GOING NORTH OF FISH PASS AND SO THIS LED TO THE SECOND. WHICH WAS TO ESTABLISH A BASELINE FOR FUTURE ASSESSMENT.

THIS WAY IN THE FUTURE ALONG THE AREAS NORTH AND WE WOULD HAVE A ESTABLISHED BASELINE TO COMPARE IT.

WE HAD THAT PREAND POST STORM DATA THAT IS IMPERATIVE GOING INTO THE NEGOTIATIONS, TO WRITE A GRANT.

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AND WE WERE DEVELOPING THE LINE.

WE WANTED TO SUPPORT PROJECTS THAT WERE ALREADY HAPPENING WITHIN NUECES COUNTY PARKS. WE WANTED TO SUPPORT THE PARK PROJECT THAT I JUST WAS AWARD AWARDED TO MEGAN AND SCOTT, WHICH WAS GREAT NEWS. AND THE PADRE, THIS IS BEING USED FOR THOSE. MANAGEMENT OF SOUTH OF BOB HALL WHERE WE HAVE LIMITED DATA AND WILL BE PREPARED NEXT TIME WE HAVE A HURRICANE MARVI BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT AS WELL.

THIS IS A LOT OF DATA. WE WANT YOU TO PULL THIS UP YOU WANT TO, WE WANT YOU TO PULL UP THE M MAPS AND WHERE THE SHORELINE CHANGES' SHOW FOR A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE DAMAGE WE HAVE IN THE OUT FUTURE WHEN WE HAVE STORMS. THE PORTAL WAS DEVELOPED THROUGH WORKING WITH THE TGLO THEY SUPPORTED IT. WE POPULATE IT WITH DATA STEPS.

IT WAS USED FOR RENOURISH A HARVEY.

, ARE YOU IN CHARGE OF THE COAST AND WITH THAT ARE CHALLENGES YOU KNOW THAT YOU TALK INTO -- WALK INTO CHALLENGES EVERY DAY. WITH REGARD TO THE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT ALONG THE GULF ARE COMPLICATED DURING TO THE JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES. SO WHERE YOU SEE THE LIME GREEN RECTANGLE THESE ARE THE NUECES COUNTY BUT THEY ARE SEPARATED BY WIDE EXPANSES OF MIGHT AND CORPUS CHRISTI AND PORT ARANSAS, THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MANAGING THEIR SEGMENTS OF THE BEACHES, RIGHT.

>> WELL WITH DIFFERENT BOUNDARIES ARE DIFFERENT APPROACHES AND FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCES IN PHILOSOPHY.

THIS IS BE A CHALLENGE OR GOING FORWARD WITH THE RESILIENCY OF THE BARRIER ISLAND. THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE TO GO FORWARD AND OBTAIN GRANTS AND ENGAGEMENT ACCOUNT CORPS INTO THE GLO. THEY WILL LOOK AT THOSE WORKING

WELL WITH THE NEIGHBORS. >> I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP AT THE START AND THROUGHOUT THE CONVERSATION WHERE I'LL SHOW SOME OF THE DAMAGE THAT'S OCCURRED I'LL INTRODUCE SOME COASTAL 101. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR

PAUSE ON THOSE PLEASE DO. >> I WILL PAUSE JUST FOR A SECOND T IS AN INTERESTING CONCEPT I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO VISIT WITH SCOTT. I LIKE THAT OF THE BOUNDARIES.

AND NO MATTER WHICH BOUNDARY INSIDE NUECES COUNTY.

WE ARE THE DUNE PROTECTION AUTHORITY.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO UNDERSTAND AS WELL AS THE OTHER PARTNERS.

WE LOVE WORKING WITH THEM BUT WHEN PUSH COMES TO SHOVE.

WE ARE THE AUTHORITY FOR DUNE PROTECTION.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE I SEE THAT THE SAME WAY.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND ARE YOU CORRECT.

>> WE HAVE THE TASKFORCES AND THE JOINT EMOTION COMMITTEES, AT THE END OF THE DAY WE DO THAT SO WE CAN BE GOOD PARTNERS. WE FEED TO BE THE AUTHORITY THAT PROTECTS THE FUTURE OF OUR DUNES.

THE EMOTION OF THE BEACHES. RENOURISH.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THE WORK IS VALUED.

AND WE HAVE PARTNERS. I WANT EVERYONE TO RECOGNIZE.

>> AGREED T IS IMPORTANT THAT WE -- AGREED.

IT IS IMPORTANT WE TALK ABOUT THE MANAGEMENT OF THE DUNES WE INTEGRATE THE MANAGEMENT OF THE BEACHES WITHOUT THE STRONG BERM THE PART OF THE BEACH WE WALK ACROSS.

WE WILL NOT HAVE RESILIENCE AND DUNE LINE.

WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE MOMENT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE THE MAN

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INYOU LAYINGS OF SAND OR NOT IN THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL PARKS. VIA ACCESS.

THEY ASK AND HAVE MEETINGS WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MANAGING THE DETERMINES. ADD.

>> AND COME TO AN AGREEMENT TO FOSTER GROWTH AND INSTABILITY

OF THE DUNE LINE. >> THEY ARE MANAGING THEM EVERY

DAY. >> SCOTT GAVE YOU A THUMBS UP THAT MAKE AS LOT OF SENSE TO HIM AND TO ME.

, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE DAMAGE THOSE OCCURRED ALONG THE BEACHES. , WE HAVE A LOT OF DATA AND FOCUS ON THE BEACHES, THIS IS WHERE THE 2020 STORM SEASON WAS ALL DIRECTED. I'M COME BACK WITH YOU AND A SHORTER PRESENTATION THAT CAN TALK ABOUT THE OTHER COMPONENTS. BUT IT WAS BEFORE WE GO INTO THE TALKING ABOUT THE TYPE OF CHANGES THAT OCCURRED ALONG THE BEACHES, I WANTED TO INTRODUCE SOME CONTENTS THE MOVEMENT OF SAND OR SEDIMENT ALONG THE BEACHES.

AND IT IS JUST A CONCEPT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO EMBRACE AND BEAR WITH ME. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE LITTORAL CELL. LIT LIT.

>> THIS IS CONCEPTUAL AND THERE WILL BE, LET'S GO FORWARD AND LOOK AT WHAT THE LITTORAL CELLS LOOK LIKE ALONG THE NUECES COUNTY BEACH. WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE LITTORAL CELLS IT MEANS WE HAVE LIMITATIONS HOW IT MOVES FROMMING LOOKING AT MANAGEMENT IN THE FUTURE IN FRONT OF THE LOSS COLONY AREA IN THE. IF WE REPLACE IT WE WOULD BE HARD TO SEE ANY BENEFIT FROM THAT DOWN HERE SOUTH OF THE CHANNEL. THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT TO KEEP IN MIND GOING FORWARD IN THE NEGOTIATIONS LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS TO STABILIZE THE BEACHES AND REINFORCE RESILIENCE. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT WHERE IT

MAKES THE MOST SENSE. >> AND LOOK TO THE SOUTH OF THE PADRE ISLAND. THE CLOSED END OF THE PACKER CHANNEL BECAUSE OF THE AND THE SEDIMENT TO THE NORTH THE SECOND CELL IS -- LITTORAL CELL IS THE FISH PASS AND OTHER AREAS ARE LIMITING TO THE SOUTH INTO THE NORTH.

AND FINALLY THE THIRD CELL IS FISH PASS TO ARANSAS PASS.

AND THE PASS. , WE TALK ABOUT THE SAND MOVING BACK AND FORTH. DUE TOTE WINDS WE SEE THE TRANSPORT MOVING FROM THE SOUTH TO THE NORTH THROUGH THE MAJORITY OF THE YEAR WE HAVE EVIDENCE UP AT PORT ARANSAS.

WE HAVE THE REVERSALS. WINTER AND SEDIMENT.

WE HAVE PULSES OF STORMS AND AND THE TRANSPORT IN A BURST.

AND WE SEE THE EVIDENCE OF THIS AT PACKER -- PACKRY CHANNEL.

WE SEE THE BUILDING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF PACKRY CHANNEL TO THE BURST OF DURING THE STORMS. WE SEIZE PACKRY CHANNEL HAS THE BENEFIT AND WE HAVE A WIDE BEACH ON THE SOUTH SIDE. WE GET THE BENEFITS OF THE REVERSAL OF THE WIND DIRECTION AND THE SEDIMENT TRANSPORT OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR. NOW I MENTIONED THAT THE SAND WAS CONTAINED WITHIN THE LITTORAL CELLS.

UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES WE'LL SEE THEM JUMP SHIP AND GO FROM CELL 3 AND 1 AND 2-1. YOU MAY SEE DURING A STORM.

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AND PACKRY CHANNEL, WE SEE IT JUMP SHIP MOST OFTEN FROM SOUTH TO NORTH. AND AROUND THE NOUGHT OF THE CHANNEL AND SHARE IT AROUND TO THE NORTH SIDE.

THAT IS BUY DESIGN. >> SO NOW WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND THE 2020 STORM DAMAGE.

AND YOU UNDERSTAND, OF COURSE, IT WAS DUE TO THE TROPICAL STORMS AND OCCURRED DURING HANNA BUT THE WIND FORTING DID NOT STOP OFF THE STORMS MOVED ON SHORE.

WE HAD CONSISTENT WINDS PUSHING AND THE WATER OVER THE BEACH AND THE JUDGE, YOU DEALT WITH THIS.

SO MUCH DRAMA BECAUSE OF THE INUNDATION OVER THE FIVE-MONTH PERIOD. AND THE HIGH WATER HAD BEEN I NOTICED OYSTER REEFS DEVELOPING BETWEEN TEXAS A&M AND SWATNER PARK. YOU KNOW IT IS CONSIST LEND LIZ HIGH FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS. DURING THAT PERIOD, AS I MENTIONED THE WATER CAME BACK DOWN.

WHEN WE HAD THE WINDS, THEN WE SAW THE SEDIMENT MOVING UNDER THE BLANKET THE CLOAK FOR ALL THE MONTHS AND WE HAD SAND BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THINGS LIKE AN ACCESS ROAD AND WE HAD EROSION AT THE END OF THE SEASON WALL. WHAT DID THIS WATER ABOVE MEAN LOOK LIKE A LOT OF GRAPHICALLY WE CAN COMPARE THE WIND DIRECTION UP TO THE LEFT ON THE SCREEN THAT'S MOVING FROM IT, WE CAN COMPARE THAT WITH THE MEAN HIGH WATER.

WE SAW THE GREATEST AND HIGH WATER AND BUT LOOK IN BETWEEN THE STORMS. WHAT VERY IT ABOVE, OVER AND OVER AGAIN BETWEEN THE STORMS. THIS IS WHEN THE MOVING AND SHAKING HAPPENS WITH THE TRANSPORT BUT BETWEEN THE STORMS. THIS CONTINUED AFTER THE SEASON. WE ARE SEEING THE PERIODS OF HIGH WATER LEVEL THROUGH DECEMBER AND THROUGH MARCH OF 2021. YOU THE WAY THAT WE, WE CONDUCT THE SURVEYS AND THAT WE MEASURE THE ELEVATION ACROSS THE BEACH AND INTO THE WATER AND THEY COMPARE THEM OVER TIME AND IT IS VALIDATED. WE WILL NOT HAVE THAT PROBLEM.

WE WILL HAVE THE HISTORIC DATA SURVEY.

AND TO THE DUNE THE LOWEST PART OF THE DUNE THAT IS APPROXIMATED FOR THE VEGETATION.

ACROSS THE DETERMINE, PART OF THE BEACH WE WALK ON AND DRIVE ON. ACROSS THE CREST, THE HIGHEST POINT BEFORE WE GO INTO THE REGION.

THE CLOSURE. THIS IS THE POINT BEYOND WHICH

THE SAND IS NOTE COMING BACK. >> THE SAND CANNING SHARED IN THE AS SOON AS FROM THE DEPTH OF CLOSURE TO THE DETERMINE AND THEN BY THE TRANSPORT UP TO THE DUNE.

>> AND WE MEASURE INFORMATION OUTED LIED AND ALSO AND THE BUILDING. AND HIGH WATER AND DERIVED FROM THAT HOOT WATER LINE. AND IF YOU LOOK UP SET BACK AND

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THE LINE OF VEGETATION AND DETERMINED FROM THAT LINE OF VEGETATION. AND THE VOLUME OF SAND AND FEATURES THAT YOU USE AND THE BEACH OR HOW MUCH DUNE AND IN AN AREA WHAT WE DID IF THERE WAS ANY TRIM AND MORE EROSION AND STABLE. SO LOOKING AT THE LINES.

WE HAVE MEASUREMENTS FROM PORT ARANSAS.

ANY LINE THAT IS RED WE HAVE THE DETERMINE OR EROSION.

GREEN OR BLUE OR YELLOW ARE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE EROSION OR DUNE EROSION. CAN YOU SEE THE COAST LINE WAS COVERED. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF AREAS AND FOR THE AREAS NEAR AND FISH PASS INTO AND ONLY BECAUSE WE HAVE THE CHANGE THERE. GREATER STABILITY UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS. STRUCTURES THAT COULD SHELTER OR AND ALSO IF THERE WERE AREAS BEFORE WE HAD LARGE BREAKS AND BREAKS IN THE JUNE SYSTEM. WE HAVE A WIDER BEACH AND COMES UP OVER THE BEACH. AND THAT ALLOWS THE ENERGY TO DISSIPATE AND OVER THE BEACH AND WILL DRY.

AS THAT COMES UP IT HAS SOMEWHERE TO GO THE DUNE LINE IT WILL TAKE THAT PATH. THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE SAVING THE CON LINE. THAT WILL GO UP IN, AND THEY ARE PRIMARY AND SEE IT GO INTO THE PACKRY CHANNEL.

WE SAW GREATER TABLETY OF THE BEACH AND THE DUNE LINE.

LET'S LOOK AT THAT IN A MORE GENERAL SENSE SO YOU GET AN IDEA WHERE WE SAW FEAST AND FAMINE.

>> SOUTH OF PORT PADRE ISLAND WE HAVE AN OTHER WITH FEW BREAKS IN THE BACK SHORE ALONG THE DUNE LINE AND A NARROW BEACH. THIS HAD HIGH EROSION AT THE BERM AND HIGH EROSION ALONG THE LINE.

ADJACENT WE HAVE NO DUNES WE HAVE A SEA WALL THERE A EXTENSIVE EMOTION ALONG THE FRONT.

NOT ENOUGH TO DISSIPATE. WE AROUND PACKERY CHANNEL.

THE STRUCTURES WHICH BUFFERS SOME OF THAT ENERGY AND A LOT OF BREAKS IN THE DUNE SYSTEM, AND IT COULD BLOW UP IN THE NEWPORT PASS ADD WENT INTO THE PACKERY CHANNEL.

REDIRECTING THE FLOW AWAY FROM THE DUNE LINE SAVING THE CON

DUNE LINE. >>> MOVING ALONG MUSTANG ISLAND. THE STATE PARK.

ACCESS ROADS. A LOT OF ROADS AND THE BERM AND THE DUNE LINE. AND FISH PASS THEY COULD HELP.

THEY BUFFER AND SHELTER ON AND PREVENTED THE MOVEMENT OF SEDIMENT TO THE NORTH IN THAT AREA.

WE HAVE A VERY LARGE AREA WHERE THE PARK FACILITY IS AT MUSTANG ISLAND STATE PARK. THAT WAS A INVOLVE, WATER WENT OVER THAT AND FUNNEL UP INTO THE NATURAL BREAK.

ONE AGAIN TAKING THE ENERGY FROM THE DUNE LINE.

MOVING NORTH OF FISH PASS AND THE BEACH FOR THE STORM.

VERY FEW ACCESS ROADS IN THE AREA.

A LOT OF DUNE DAMAGE. AS WE MOVE UP TO THE END OF THE STUDY AREA BY PORT ARANSAS. WE HAVE A LOT OF ACCESS ROADS THERE. WE HAVE A WIDE LOAD AREA NEXT

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T TO, WE HAD A LESSER DEGREE OF EMOTION BASED ON THE LIMITED DAT WE HAVE DUE TO THE RELEASE VALVES AND THE WIDER BEACHES.

DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.

I THOUGHT I WOULD STOP BEFORE I MOVED ON?

>> COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS HERE?

>> IT EXPLAIN AS LOT. WE SHOULD MAKE PLANS TO PRESENT THIS THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT AND IT DOES, PEOPLE ASK ALL THE TIME AND THE ACCESS ROADS.

AND HAS NOT DONE THIS EXPLAINS IT.

AND THE KNOWLEDGE AND YOU KNOW AND UNDERSTAND WHY EVERYTHING HAS HAPPENED T IS KIND OF UNFORTUNATE IT COINCIDED.

AND IT IS THE TYPE OF DAMAGE THAT WE'LL SUES AND THIS AMAZING BACKGROUND MAYBE WE HAVE DONE AND TO THE OCTOBER 20.

WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING TO THEM ABOUT REYOUR ITCHMENT.

YOU LAID THE FOUNDATION. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

, I TALKED TO SCOTT ABOUT THIS.

KY NOT SAY I WAS A FAN. ' THE BREAKS BEING A POSITIVE THING. AND PROTECTING THE DUNE LINE.

AND THERE IS CONCERN. AND TEMPTED TO SAY WE'RE SHOWCASING THROUGH DATA. AND THIS.

AND IT GIVES YOU ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED.

IT IS BASED ON DATA ALONG THE COAST.

AND YOU MAY NOT WE GO BACK TO 1996 IN A MINUTE.

THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION HERE AND IT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE HISTORIC DATA. AND WE ESTABLISHED DATA WHERE WE DID NOT HAVE THE HISTORIC DATA.

I'M PAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THE COASTAL PROCESS 101 SEGMENTS.

THE FIRST DIAGRAM I SHOWED THE BEACH CROSS SECTION, I TALKED A BIT ABOUT THE SHARING OF SAND BETWEEN THE BERM AND WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT HAPPENED IN A STORM AND WOK YOU THREE WHAT WILL HAPPEN AS WE ROVER FROM THE STORM.

THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU ALL AS YOU GO PLANNING FOR THE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT DECISIONS. WE HAD A WIDE BEACH AND A LOT OF AREA AS STABLE BEACH WHERE IT WAS NARROW.

WE HAD A GLORIOUS DUNE LINE. EVERYONE WILL AGREE PEOPLE IN GALVESTON KILLED FOR OUR DUNESMENT THEY ARE LIKE A FOOT TALL IF THEY HAVE THEM. WE WERE SET.

OUR DUNE AND DETERMINE DID THE JOB.

THEY PROTECTED OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE ISLAND BUT THEY BUFFERED THAT ENERGY THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DIRECTLY, YOU KNOW ON THE BAY SIDE COMMUNITY.

SO THEY SERVED THE PURPOSE BUT THEY TOOK A HIT.

WHAT DID THAT LOOK LIKE? , WHAT WE HAVE HAPPENING WE HAVE A STORM IS THE INCREASING WATER LEVEL WITH THE WAVES.

THE FIRST TO GO IS THE BERM. AND AFTER THE FALL OF THE DETERMINE AND THE INTO THE WE LOSE THAT SAND INTO THE NEAR SHORE WE SEE THE WAVES DOING THEIR DAMAGE AND THERE IS

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FAILURE DO TO A UNDERCUTTING OF THE DUNE.

THEY GET SO HIGH THEY TAKE OUT HIGHER ELEVATIONS.

THIS ERODES AND IS DEPOSITED. THIS MO MOVIES AWAY, WE MAY NOT SEE IT AGAIN. AND THE SAND THAT'S LIBERATED AND NOURISHS THE OTHER SEGMENT OF THE BEACH IN THE FUTURE.

>> THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF EMOTION OF THE BERM AND THE DUNE. THE STORM WAS IN HOURS TO DAYS. WE HAD EROSION EFFICIENT THE BERM AND THE DUNE. WHAT DOES RECOVERY LOOK LIKE? THAT IS A SLOWER PROCESS. WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE CAN LOOK BACK TO THE HURRICANE RESPONSE DURING IKE.

WE HAVE THE DATA. WE'LL HAVE THAT IN A MINUTE.

THE PROCESS STARTS SLOW AND THE MOVEMENT OF SAND FROM THE NEAR SHORE AND WITH MORE GENTLE RISES ALE FALLS AND NOURISHS THE DETERMINE. IT IS THE FIRST DEFENSE AGAINST THE STORMS. WE DON'T HAVE A HEAL HEALTHIZE BERM AND BEACHES THAT HITS THE.

THE BERM STARTS AND WILL WIDEN.

AS IT WIDENS WINDS CAN WORK OVER THAT ONLY IF IT IS HIGH ENOUGH. WE NEED TO SEE THE SAND ON THE BEACH FOR THE ELEVATION INCREASES SO IT IS NOT OWLS DAMP. IF WE HAVE A BEACH AND BERM I SHOULD SAY BERM, ONCE THE BERM IS WIDE ENOUGH THEY WILL ACT OVER THE BEACH FETCH. WE'LL SEE THAT DRAW THAT UP AND START TO REBUILD, THE BERM REBUILDS THE DUKE WITH THE WIND DRAVEN TRANSPORT. HERE IS THE KICKER.

THE PROCESS TAKES YEARS. WE'LL LOOK AT THAT HERE IN A MINUTE. DAYS FOR TO US LOSE EVERYTHING AND YEARS TO REBUILD. WE HAVE A FIE NINE SAND WE SOURCE IN TEXAS. AND SO IDENTIFYING AND SECURING THE SAND RESOURCES MAYBE NOT RIGHT NOW BUT MAYBE IT'S A LONG PROCESS IT IS FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT.

THE SAND RESORES BEFORE WE'RE IN GALVESTON WHERE WE HAVE NO CHOICE ANY LONGER AND RENOURISH AND REFORT TIE THE BEACHES.

THEY'RE A GREAT TOUR ITCH DESTINATION.

AND THAT LIVE US, MANY OF US LIVE HERE, THEN A IT IS BLAST AND REPEAT. EVERY TIME WE HAVE A STORM IN THE HIGH WATER LEVEL. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT

THIS PROCESS? >> NO, THIS IS JUST LIKE THANKSGIVING IT TAKES YOU ALL DAY TO COOK AND G GETS

DEVOURED IN 30 MINUTES. >> THIS IS OUR PROBLEM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DID NOT RECOGNIZE THE PAIN WITH HANNA.

THEY WILL HAVE TO ANSWER FOR. THAT IT WILL TAKE YEARS TO GET BACK WHAT WE LOST AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU CANNOT SEIZE IN THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO QUANTIFY FOR US. I HAVE T VERY HARD WITH THE COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HOW WE MAKE THIS PRIORITY PUT FORTH.

MOTHER NATURE'S OWN RESILIENCY.

YOU0 DON'T HAVE TO BUY ANYTHING BUTS FOR SAND.

WE'RE NOT EVEN QUALIFIED. WE NOW ARE GETTING QUALIFIED WITH THE SEDIMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN.

THAT IS I'M MAKING NOTES ON MY COMPUTER.

THIS IS THE SLIDE I WANT TO TAKE WITH ME TO THE CORPS.

>> I DON'T IMMEDIATE TO IT IS 5:30.

WE HAVE 29 ITEMS LEFT. I'M READY TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT ALL.

>> A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. >> , LET THE COMMISSIONER HOME MORE SLIDES DO YOU HAVE. JOHN HAS THE COMMISSIONER MAREZ

HAS A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU. >> SURE LET HIM ASK THE QUESTIONS WE CAN ADDRESS HOW YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH THE REST. I FEEL LIKE ARE YOU GETTING A GOOD AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR TASKS YOU

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HAVE AHEAD OF YOU SO. PLEASE GO AHEAD.

>> I'M ENJOYING THIS TIME OF DAY I'M SOAKING IT UP. IT IS INTERESTING. AND THE SLIDE THAT YOU HAVE PUTS IT IN PERSPECTIVE AND THE LAY TERN TO SEE THAT CREATING

ANOTHER ACCESS: >> THE JUDGE.

>> AND AND AND YOU SAID EARLIER THE REQUIRE TO DO FOR MANY

REPORTS. >>> AND SEPARATED OUT.

AND AND WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING.

AND THE DIALOGUE. AND AND EVERY SINGLE WEEK.

I HAVE QUITE A FEW MORE SLIDES I HATE TO CUT IT SHORT DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO HANDLE IT, JUDGE?

>> I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO. I MEAN I'M LOVING IT BUT I LOVE THIS STUFF I THINK WE CAN DO IS CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUMP HAVE THAT COASTAL WORKSHOP. WE NEED TO GET TO THAT.

IN ADVANCE OF THE OCTOBER 20TH MEETING WITH THE COURT.

THAT'S KEY. THAT'S THE TIME LINE WE BEAT THE 20TH DEADLINE. THE SECOND THING THERE IS AN ACTION ITEM I'M GOING TO REMIND THE COURT IF SCOTT THAT THE ITEM IS ON THE NEXT AGENDA TO CONSIDER.

ALL OF THE WORK TO REMIND EVERYONE WAS PAID FOR THE NEXT

PIECE IS WHAT ITEM NUMBER. >> 11.

>> 11 IS ALL ABOUT. WOULD YOU INTRODUCE THAT ITEM AND SEE IF THE COURT HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIEDRE.

[11. Discuss and consider proposal from Conrad Blucher Institute to continue coastal monitoring and survey work of the Nueces County Coastline.]

I DON'T REMEMBER ARE AND THE WORK THEY ARE DONE AND CONTINUE WITH THE FINDINGS. SO.

AND THE PROPOSAL HAS TASKS IN IT.

AND WHAT THIS DOES IT TAKES TO US CONTINUING OUR INVESTIGATION TO SEE WHAT IS HEALING. WHAT IS NOT HEALING AND GO FROM HERE. AND YOU KNOW I DON'T HAVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT OR CONTRACT PREPARED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. AND I WANTED TO MY GOAL IS TO GET ON HERE AND SEE THE PROPOSAL AND WE CAN COME BACK WITH IT AT A LATER DATE AND YOU KNOW DISCUSS A FUNDING SOURCE.

THIS IS NOT ALL OR NOTHING. THERE ARE TASKS IN HERE CAN YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO THAT ARE BENEFICIAL TO WHAT WE'RE DOING GOING FORWARD. AND FOR INSTANCE.

AND MEGAN AND WERE DISCUSSING, THE IT IS LIKE THE CHERRY ON TOP OF THE ICE CREAMED A NICE THING TO HAVE BUT A WANT NOT A

NEED. >> AND THE -- THE OTHER THING THAT I CAN LIVE WITHOUT IS THE GOING BACK ON A DEEP DIVE COULD YOU NOT CONTINUE AND DO ONE, TWO AND WHAT IS IT.

LIME I'M LOOKING FOR THAT TASK.

>> WE SAY CONTINUE ON. WE HAVE BEEN.

A FUNDING SOURCE FOR THIS BEFORE?

>> AND. >> WE USED 2019, DALE.

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COS FOR THIS. I THINK WE DID 2019 AND WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE 2020S. SO HERE IS ANOTHER GREAT THING

THAT I WANT TO PUT OUT TO YOU. >> WE HAD A TASK.

KY NOT REMEMBER THE TASK NUMBER.

AND DETERMINED PACKERY CHANNEL.

WE HAD TO GET SOME SURVEY DATA AND QUICKLY PUT TOGETHER.

THAT'S WHAT GOT US AT 4 MILLION-DOLLAR GRANT BY HAVING THAT AVAILABLE TO US. WE HAD TO DO A SURVEY.

THERE ARE 165 LEFT ON THIS THAT WAS APPROVED BY YOU ALL.

135 TO DO THE SURVEY, REQUIRED FOR US TO EXECUTE.

GETTING THE TASK WITHOUT A LOT MORE MONEY.

YOU WANTED TO DO TASK 1. WELL I GOT 151,000.

THAT WOULD KNOCK OUT TASKFORCE.

AND SO WE CAN KEEP THE MOME MOMENTUM GOING WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS NOW ONE MORE YEAR AND WE LOOK AT IT AND SEE, OKAY. WHAT IS HAPPENING.

IT HAS NOT BEEN DONE BEFORE. WE'RE BEHIND WITH OUR COASTAL PARTNERS TO THE SOUTH AND THE NORTH OF US AND SOUTH PADRE AND OTHER STATES THAT PUT THE EVENT IN.

>> WHERE IS TERESA. IF YOU STOP FOR A SECOND.

WE NEED TO DO IT YOU GOT SOMETHING I'LL GIVE YOU SOME I NEED TO FIND TERESA. THIS IS IMPORTANT.

>> FIND TERESA. GET THE PA GOING.

>> AND SO -- JUST SO YOU KNOW. I'LL GIVE YOU MONEY.

>> SHE WILL GIVE YOU, BETWEEN YOUR 16 AND 15 COS YOU HAVE A

TOTAL OF 46,000. >> I SHOULD HAVE MORE.

>> THAT'S THE NUMBER. 16.

>> 2 COMBINED 167895 I SHOULD BE DONE.

13 AND SOME CHANGE AND THEN 1 AND 32.8 IN 16.

>> THAT IS ENOUGH FOR TASK ORDER NUMBER 3 THE PACKERY CHANNEL COUNTY PARK. I THINK I WANT TO MAKE A CORRECTION NOW THAT TERESA IS HERE.

SO, REMEMBER THAT THIS WAS PART OF OUR HURRICANE HANNA A PART OF THE REQUIREMENT. RIGHT.

I WOULD HAVE TO ASK TERESA BUT THE QUESTION WE'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE. DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO GET ON THIS THIS SECOND. THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR DEIDRE.

>> HOW MUCH IN THE 16 COS IN THAT ENCUMBERED AMOUNT.

CAN YOU COME TO THE MIC? >> I DON'T HAVE AN EXTRA ONE

NOW. >> THE OTHER IS GOING TO DIE.

>> I LOOKED AT THAT. THE FUNDING SOURCE.

, YOU 32817 AVAILABLE IN THE PROJECT.

THE 2016. >>> I HAVE SOME IN A 43.

>> 603,000, JUST THE OTHER DAY YOU HAVE 220,000.

43 OF 200,150,000; THAT'S, THOSE ARE NOT AVAILABLE.

>> THEY ARE AVAILABLE. >> THEY ARE ENCUMBERED.

>> THE DEVELOPER PART THAT'S ENCUMBERED BUT THERE IS THE OTHER, THE TOP WAS 220,000. WHAT IS THE IT 23 -- 223.

>> THAT'S THE 1921. THE 2016 COS.

, UNALLOCATED. >> SO, ARE YOU TELLING ME I HAVE 50,000 RIGHT NOW. WHAT IS THAT.

LET'S DO THAT FOR NOWMENT I HAVE TO GET THIS CLEAR.

BUT , WE CAN BRING IT BACK, JUST TAKE 50.

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WE CAN BRING IT BACK. >> AND I MIGHT HAVE -- I MIGHT HAVE SOME, TOO. , I THINK THAT AND I THINK THE IMPACT HAS BEEN FELT, RIGHT. THE GOOD DATA THAT'S AN

IMPORTANT. >> TO REPAIR THE NATURE PARK AND PACKERY CHANNEL NATURE PARK.

AND WHAT WE GET OUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.

WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL FUNDING SOURCE DID TERESA HELP US WHILE

I STEPPED OUT. >> LET ME MAKE SURE, 151 THAT'S WHAT WE START WITH. AND WE APPROVE THE AMOUNT OF $201,000.151000 FROM SCOTT'S BUDGET FROM MY -- I THOUGHT THEY WERE GONE BUT THE 16TH FOR THAT AND WE CAN REVISIT TO SEE. THAT SHOULD MAKE A.

SOME OF THAT. YOU WANT THEM TO PRESENT WITH THE DOLLARS OR DIRECT HIM I HAVE GREAT FAITH.

THE COURT WOULD LIKE TO. IT WILL COME FROM THE LIST AND I WOULD SAY THAT'S THE MOTION. ONLY THAT I WOULD LIKE A COPY OF THE LIST. CAN YOU PROVIDE THE COURT WITH THE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE CEPTIONS.

WE CAN REVISIT AT A NEXT COURT MEETING WHAT DO YOU SAY.

>> I'M GOING TO WORK WITH LEGAL.

WE'LL HAVE TO BRING BACK, WE DID THIS.

THAT'S WHAT WE DID. >> WE DID.

>> I MADE A MOTION IS THAT CLEAR?

>> IT IS NOT REAL CLEAR. THE MOTION TO TAKE 151,000 FROM SCHOOL AND THE COS TO SUPPORT CONSIDER THIS PROPOSAL FROM THE CONRAD BLUCHER FOR SURVEY WORK OFF THE LIST PROVIDED IN THE PACKET. WAVER THAT IS.

AND THERE IS A THE LIST IS HERE.

COMING UP TO COVER WITH THAT. >> TO BE CONTINGENT ON THE

AGREEMENT BEING EXECUTED. >> CORRECT.

>> OKAY. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND AHAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> AND THEN.

I WHAT I WOULD DO IS TAKE THIS PAGE I'M THINKING ABOUT RIPPING IT OUT GIVING IT TO YOU, THE TASKS SHOULD BE -- IF YOU DON'T MIND PASS THAT. YOU WANT TO ID WHAT THAT LIST IS. THEN FOR DEIDRE YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS PAYING DIVIDENDS TO EDUCATE US ABOUT THE BEACH MONITORING A SEPARATE TIME WE'RE NOT CHEATING WITH YOU THE VALUABLE INFORMATION. WE CAN CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION. YOU ALMOST ARE AT THE 50% MARK IN GETTING WHAT IS KIND OF THE CADILLAC VERSION.

I THINK THAT THE SECOND, THE COULD YIELD ANOTHER FUNDING

SOURCE FOR THE REMAINDER. >> THAT IS GREAT WE CAN DISCUSS THOSE TASKS THE BENEFITS EFFICIENT KEEPING THE ONES WHAT YOU LOSE IF YOU DECIDE NOT TO TAKE THEM.

THEY ARE THAT KIND OF TIME TO DISCUSS THAT.

WHAT IS GREAT INVITE THE PARTNERS TO THAT WORKSHOP THEY CAN PARTICIPATE AND THEY MAY NOT BE PARTICIPATING BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT HAD THE VALUABLE ADDED OF SEEING HOW THE DATA

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DRIVES THE GRANTS. THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE A GRANTS DEPARTMENT THEY ARE BUILDING ONE.

THEY COULD BENEFIT BY SEEING HOW THE DATA WILL GIVE US MORE OPPORTUNITIES. MAYBE IT AN AGENCY WORKSHOP WE HAVE ACCESS. IT WOULD BE.

THEY HAVE THEIR OWN DUNE PERMITTING.

IT IS NOT -- I MEAN THE MODELS WERE GREAT FOR ANYBODY TO SEE.

HAS BEEN A SUPERSTAR. AND WE SERVED ON THE COUNCIL TOGETHER. WE HAVE DEALT WITH THEM FOR SO LONG. THEY WERE HUGE IN THE PACKERY CHANNEL BACK IN THOSE DAYS WE WERE WORKING TO GET THAT DONE AND SILT UP AND BLAH BLAH BLAH ONE OF THE MOST INCREDIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY WE HAD. THEY HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN MONITORING THE PACKERY CHANNEL FOR SO MANY YEARS TO MAKE SURE IT DOES NOT DO THAT I APPRECIATE ALL YOU COULD.

>> AND WE'LL SCHEDULE THAT WITH THE COURT ADMINISTRATION OFFICE

THAT THAT WORKSHOP AND, SCOTT. >> NUMBER 14.

>> I HAVE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE, DID YOU GET A RECORD VOTE FROM ME. I DO HAVE A MOTION.

WE DIDN'T DO THE VOTE. >> I RAISED MY HAND.

>> IT IS HARD TO REMEMBER. >> SO,.

>> WE'RE HALFWAY DONE. >> 14.

>> YES SCOTT HAS SOME MORE PROJECTS.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY HE NEEDS TO TALK ABOUT.

LET ME GIVE A, WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT IF IT WERE EARLIER IN THE IN THE DAY IT IS LATE IN THE DAY.

I'M GOING TO TAKE YOURS OUT OF ORDER NEXT.

BUT I WANT TO WARN THAT YOU SCOTT HAS TWO ITEMS BUT THEY

ARE RELATED. >> JUDGE.

[14. Presentation of current known costs related to recovery of I.B. Magee Multi-Purpose Building; discuss and consider identifying funding source to deal with known costs.]

>> IT IS FINE. >> CAN I START WITH WHAT HE'S.

ON THIS ONE. I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS ONE I'M HONEST A CIP PROJECT AND THE COURT APPROVED IT.

EVERYONE REMEMBERS THAT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE'RE GETTING SCREWED ON BY THE INSURANCE COMPANY AND WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A LAWSUIT. AND THAT THE PROPERTY AND THIS INCLUDED FOR SETTLEMENT PURPOSES.

THE HOPE WAS THAT WE WOULD GET THE MONEY BACK PUT IT BACK.

WE'RE WAY OVER ON IT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE.

I HAVE PUT 235,000 FOR COS INTO THIS.

I'M TAPPED. I HAVE A LOT OF ROAD PROJECTS IN THE LONDON AREA I'M COMING BACK ON THIS.

THIS WAS A I NEED HELP. BUT LIKE ANY OTHER THE COURT TO DO THAT AS WELL. AND SO THAT'S THE STARTING POINT OF AND THAT IS THE FUNDING.

THE TOTAL AMOUNT IS HOW MUCH, SCOTT?

>> 41295. YES, I DON'T KNOW THAT'S ALL.

>> , IT'S NOT. JUST TODAY.

>> I'LL BE UP FRONT ON THIS. GIVE SCOTT A CHANCE.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL NUMBERS HERE THE ONE EVERYONE NEEDS TO LOOK AT THE BLUE ARROW JUST FOR

TODAY. >> GO AHEAD.

>> WHAT WHAT HAPPENED WAS WE HAD A MEETING ON FRIDAY THE COMMISSIONER TROY AND SCOTT, WE HAD A SPREADSHEET.

COME TO FIND OUT I HAD SOME NUMBERS IN THERE THAT WERE NOT TIED TO SINCE WE EXECUTED OUR CONTRACT AND TIED TO CONSTRUCTION. THERE WERE HURRICANE HARVEY NUMBERS PICKED UP IN THERE. SOME OF THIS WE DID IT WAS

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PREVENTING I HAD TO TAKE THOSE OUT.

I'M GLAD TO TELL YOU WE GOT TOGETHER AND OUR NUMBERS MATCH EXACTLY. WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT.

THIS IS A UPDATED SPREADSHEET. YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION THE GREENS WERE APPROVED AND FUNDED AND CHANGE OFFEREDDER IS SPENDING. UNFUNDED COST IN YELLOW AND THEN YOU HAVE THE PHONE. HANG ON.

I NEED NEW GRACES. KNOWN ISSUES UNKNOWN COSTS.

WE HAVE SOME KNOWN ISSUES UNKNOWN COSTS WE CANNOT GET THERE UNTIL WE GET THE CONCRETE TESTING BACK.

THAT'S AN EXAMPLE. WE HAVE THE STUFF IN PURPLE AT THE BOTTOM. THE REASON THAT'S IN PURPLE BECAUSE THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE THE FIRE ALARM WAS NEVER PART OF THE SCOPE OF WORK. AND THE BOILER SYSTEM.

THAT WAS IN THE IN THE ORIGINAL SCOPE OF WORK, I FELT LIKE WE HAD PROBLEMS. YOU KNOW HOW MECHANICAL IS.

IT WILL NOT WORK RIGHT. THE REASON WHY I'M PROMOTING THESE BEFORE I FROM THE LAST UPDATE WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT THE CHANGE ORDER WE WOULD NOT HAVE STOPPAGE.

THE PURPLE ONES WE NEED TO INTERNALIZE YOU KNOW THE COUNTY NEEDS TO EXECUTE THEM AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE CONTRACTOR ONLY HAS 24556 REMAINING IN THIS CAPACITY ON CHANGE ORDER.

>> HOW MUCH? >> 24556 REMAINING.

YOU CANNOT GO MORE THAN THE AWARD.

I SAVED US $38,000. $92,000 BOILER SYSTEM THROUGH WE GOT IT TO 55. YOU KNOW.

AND YOU KNOW I KNOW TELLING WHAT THE MARKET IS ON ALA ALARMED SUPREME COURT. SO OUR WINDOW COST HERE.

THAT'S IN CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 2.

WE CANNOT HELP THAT. WE HAVE TO REPLACE THE WINDOWS. NO WAY AROUND IT.

SO MEARS GOT US FROM 164 TO 112.

SO WE'RE FINDING WAYS TO CUT ON THIS AND SAVE MONEY BUT THE ASK IS 412095.08 AND THAT'S NON-DEBATABLE.

>> SO WHEN YOU SEE THE SUBTOTAL THAT'S THERE ON THE SPREADSHEET S THAT THE SUBTOTAL WITH THE CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 2?

>> IF I BACK IT OUT, THAT REPRESENTS THE TOTAL THAT WE HAVE ALREADY EXPENDED ON THE PROJECT WHICH IS ROUGHLY ABOUT

1/8. >> YES, THAT'S A TOTAL OF THE AND THE IT HAS A CURRENT EXPENDITURE BEFORE 1/8 WHICH.

NOT ALL BUT OVER 95% WHICH WAS APPROPRIATED UNDER THE COS NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO, YOU'RE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL HELP FOR 412,000 KNOWING THAT WE'RE STILL CLIMBING BECAUSE OF CONTINUED UNKNOWNS WITH THE PROJECT, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> SO, AND THE ONLY UP SIDE TO THIS WHEN YOU GO TO ARBITRATION.

THIS IS GREAT EVIDENCE OF WHY WE GOT SO SCREWED ON THIS.

WE GOT 2 OR 3 $300,000. >> 300,000.

>> IT IS LUDICROUS. WE COULD NOT HIRE AN ARCHITECT T IS RIDICULOUS I'M NOT RANTING.

THAT'S THE ONLY UP SIDE S THAT WITHIN THE 25% OF THE LIMIT.

AND IT, IF YOU FUND THAT 412 INCLUDES THOSE ITEMS IN PURPLE

AT THE BOTTOM. >> CORRECT.

87993. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE ME MONEY WE'RE GOING TO GO DO THIS. AND SO, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, YOU HAVE SOME FUNDS BUT SAVE THEM FOR ROADS THAT ARE NOT YET

PUT FORTH YET? >> THEY'RE NOT PROCESS, YES.

I'M ASKING -- YES I'M ASKING THIS BE FUNDED THROUGH THE CIP. THIS NOT THE LAST ASK.

I'LL GET MORE ASKS ON THIS. I'M ASKING FOR THE COURT TO REALLOCATE FROM THE COS FOR THIS BECAUSE OF WHAT IS GOING

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ON. WE SHOULD HAVE SET ASIDE.

WE HAVE TO COMPLETE THE BUILDING.

>> YES. >> SO WHERE -- WHICH COS AND ARE THEY COMING FROM A DEDICATED PROJECT.

AND JUST FLOWING AROUND. >> 2021 IS THE ONLY THING WE HAVE AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW. ALL 2019 ARE OBLIGATED.

2021 IS THE LOCATION OF THE FUNDS.

AND HAVING TO TAKE FROM A PROJECT THAT'S NOT UNDERWAY BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT WANT TO TAKE FROM A PROJECT THAT'S

UNDERWAY. >> I HAVE A HARD TIME WITH.

THAT YOU ASKED FOR IT IS FOR EVERYONE.

>> I DIDN'T ASK. >> YOU DID.

>> NO, YOU DID. I DIDN'T BAT AN EYE.

>> 125 MILLION. >> IT IS A GOOD THING FOR THE COUNTY. NEVER BATTED AN EYE.

YOU HAVE RESOURCES, I DON'T. I HAVE RESOURCES, YOU DON'T.

WE CAN AGREE THAT ALL OUR PREC PRECINCTS ARE UNIQUE. WE TALK ABOUT ROAD PROJECTS AND FUNDING GOING IN. I HAVE FOUR TIMES THE AMOUNT OF COUNTY ROADS THAT YOU DO. FOUR TIMES.

I'M SAYING YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE FUNDING THAT YOU HAVE PUT ASIDE FOR THE ROAD PROJECTS AND FROM OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN STARTED YET. OVER THERE.

HAVE NOT BATTED AN EYE. I JUST WANT TO BE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT MONEY TAKEN FROM MY PROJECT OR THE OTHER PROJECTS, RIGHT. WE HAVE ALL HAVE PROJECTS WE NEED TO PUT MONEY TO. WILL WE GET IT BACK OR WHAT WE GOT FROM INSURANCE THAT WAS IT.

>> THAT'S THE POINT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IS IN -- IN THE LAWSUIT.

THIS IS ONE IN THE LAWSUIT THAT WE HAVE SUED FOR OF WHICH WE HOPE WE GET. WE DON'T KNOW.

WE HAVE GOOD LAWYERS. THE JUDGE WILL SAY GOOD JOB IN ARBITRATION. WE HOPE WE'RE GOING TO GET SOMETHING BACK FOR -- WE HOPE WE GET LOTS BACK -- BACK.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ARBITRATOR WILL DO.

THAT WILL GO BACK INTO THE CIP.

WHATEVER WE GOT BACK THAT WAS ALLOCATEED WOULD GO BACK INTO

THE CIP YOU CAN HAVE IT. >> WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS COMING FROM. I WAS MAKING POINTS.

LET ME TELL YOU. YOU DON'T THINK I HAD HARD CONVERSATIONS WITH ALL THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT. THEY DON'T LIKE ME RIGHT NOW.

I'M TICKED. I DON'T LIKE IT I DON'T KNOW.

>> I'M ALL ABOUT PROJECTS, WE GOT TO DO IT.

WE HAVE TO DO IT AND THE RATIFYING ISSUE AND THE SEMANTICS WE HAVE TO DO. SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO.

I DON'T CARE TO DO THIS BUT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO.

WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF DOING IT ALREADY.

WE MIGHT AS WELL COMPLETE. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO SUPPORT REGARDLESS.

RIGHT. THERE IS SOME COMPARISONS THERE. BUT I HOPE WE WIN.

WE CANNOT LEAVE IT HALFWAY DONE.

SO -- I SUPPORT IT. >> WILL THAT HAPPEN.

I'LL BE ASKED TO COVER MORE. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE WE HAVE LEFT.

I'M SAYING I DON'T WANT TO COME BACK.

I PUT IN 235. I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO ASK

ME FOR MORE. >> IT'S NOT LIKE YOUR MONEY.

IT IS THE COUNTY'S MONEY. BUT IT IS DEDICATED TO THE PRECINCT. AND THAT I HAD IN MY PRECINCT AND THEY HAVE GONE INTO THE ISLAND AND PORT ARANSAS.

I HAVE OTHER PARTS OF THE PRECINCT TO SPEND MONEY IN.

I PUT, YOU KNOW. LITERALLY MILLIONS IN PORT ARANSAS OF COUNTY MONEY DESIGNATED FOR PRECINCT 4.

LIKE I SAID THIS IS NOT THE LAST TIME COME BACK FOR MORE.

I HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING WHEN HE COMES BACK FOR MORE.

>> COME BACK MORE BECAUSE, THEY'RE GOING TO FIND MORE.

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>> , THEY HAVE ANOTHER HUNDRED THOUSAND.

WE'LL KNOW MORE ABOUT THE NEXT PHASE OF IT.

LOOK AT THE SALMON COLORED ONCE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT.

>> COST PENDING. THOSE WILL BE THE ONES THAT ARE NEXT. AND THAT'S HIGH DOLLARS, TOO.

>> AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DON'T KNOW.

>> THIS PARK OFFICE. >> I'M SAYING EVEN WHAT I'VE GOT LEFT. I THINK A LOT MORE WILL COME FROM ME -- NOT FROM ME. HOWEVER I'M ANOT TRYING TO BE FROM PRECINCT 4 FUNDS. I'M ASKING FOR THE COURT THE NEXT ASK IT BILL BE -- IT WILL BE ME AGAIN.

, LET'S ASK HAGERTY THE STRUCTURE.

>> ALOST REVENUE 3 AND A HALF MILLION AND YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO KEEP THAT NUMBER THE HIGHEST WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE INSURANCE NEEDS WE CAN VET IT SO YOU KNOW AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S NOT ROADS OR WATER OR SEWER IS NOT ALLOWED UNLESS IT IS, AS DALE SAID, CONSIDERED LOST REVENUE.

UNLESS YOU'RE COMING FROM AN ECONOMICALLY DISAADVANTAGED AREA, THIS NOT AN A MHMI AREA. THE PHRASE IS, YOU KNOW, YOU BELIEVE THIS BUILDING TO BE IMPORTANT FOR YOUR PRECINCT.

>> I BELIEVE WE PAID A COMMITMENT TO THE BUILDING.

IF I HAD TO DO IT OVER AGAIN I DON'T NOSE WHAT I WOULD DO.

WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE BUILDING TO RUN THE RV PARK WHICH MAKES MONEY THAT COULD POTENTIALLY POSSIBLY, I DID NOT THINK ABOUT THAT UNTIL DALE SAID IT, FIT INTO THE ECONOMIC LOSS. WE'RE LOSING MONEY OUT, WE LOST A LOT OF ONE WHEN IT WAS DOWN. IT AIDS AND ABETS, A TERRIBLE TERM, THIBLETY TO MAKE MONEY AND RUN THE RV PARK.

>> AND I HAVE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT THE LOST RIFF KNEW AND IF THAT WORKS WE HAVE NOT MAXED THAT OUT.

THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE. >> SO, BASICALLY WE HAVE THE COST OVERRUN OF 412. YOU -- WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE THE PROJECT IS AT A STALEMATE THAT CAUSES FURTHER PROBLEMS THEY SAY, YOU'RE IN A DILEMMA.

AND THE DILEMMA YOU NEED OUR HELP.

AND YOU NEED OUR HELP AT A TIME WHERE THERE HAS NOT BEEN MUCH RECIPROCITY. I'M A BIG FAN OF THE COAST AND THE A FAN OF THE PROJECT. IT'S INCREDIBLE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT. ARE YOU BRAVE ALL THIS TIME.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THERE WAS A GOOD REASON FOR NOT SCRAPPING THIS. IF YOU START AGAIN YOU START WITH A NEW PERMIT THAT THE WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFICULT.

AND SO WE HAD SOME SERIOUS CHALLENGES; THEY WOULD HAVE MADE YOU MOVE THAT BEHIND THE DUNES.

SO THIS IS WHY YOU KNOW WE'RE HERE.

NOT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE BUT A FAVORITE PROJECT ON THE COAST.

THAT ILLUSTRATES KEEPING A COMMITMENT WHEN WE START A PREJUDICE OR, AND SINCE YOU SAID IT THERE HAS NOT BEEN RECIPROCITY I SUPPORTED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND IF NOT FOR MY SUPPORT GOING OUT. THEY WOULD NOT BE ON THE BOARD. AND THE COMMISSIONER'S MAREZ AND I THINK THAT'S AN UNFAIR SHOT DURING A TIME WHEN, YES.

YOU GOT ME OVER A BARREL I NEED HELP CAN YOU DO.

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THAT THAT'S NOT FAIR, THE PROJECT THAT YOU ARE UNHAPPY

WITH I DON'T SUPPORT. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THERE WAS NOT RECIPROCITY AND ASKING FOR HELP. I'M SAYING I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT. THERE HAS BEEN.

I SUPPORT THE PROJECTS I WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THEM IN ALL

PARTS. >> I THINK WHAT I WAS REFERRING

TO. >> I DON'T LIKE PUBLIC BEING IN THE POSITION. IT WAS NOT A PROJECT.

I GUESS TURNS OUT NOBODY CAN READ MINDS THAT'S NOT WHAT I WAS THINKING. I WAS THINKING THAT WHEN WE VOTE FOR A BUDGET THAT PROVIDES NO EXTRA DOLLARS AND WE, YOU KNOW VOTE FOR, YOU KNOW, QUITE FRANKLY OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE REALLY NICE AND NEAT IN ARPA BUT NOT NICE AND NEAT IN OTHER SOURCES IT STEAMS A LITTLE -- IT IS A GOOD TEACHING MOMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED EACH OTHER AND HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER. THERE WILL BE PROJECTS AND YOURS AS THE COMMISSIONER POINTS OUT THE PRECINCT IS THE RECIPIENT CURRENTLY OF A HUGE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT.

WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT. THIS REPRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOWCASE THAT FURTHER INVESTMENT WILL BE NEEDED TO TURN A RATE OF RETURN THAT'S GOOD.

LIKE YOU SAID WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.

WHAT DO YOU THINK, SCOTT? >> AROUND 60%.

>> WE'RE 60% IN. AND WE TO TURN BACK.

>> 60%. >> CONSTRUCTION.

>> COMMITTED TO TO THE PROJECTS.

>> WE'RE THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE NEED 40% MORE MONEY.

>> EFFORT, EFFORT. >> WE'RE 60% IN.

AND WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.

HONOR OUR WORD. KEEP OUR COMMITMENTS.

GREAT, ANYBODY WHO HAS NOT SPENT A 2016 CO NEEDS TO WHAT

DOES T THE. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY THERE IS 160,000. THAT WILL GO QUICK.

AND HAVE ABOUT 80,000 IN THE GENERAL CAPITAL.

THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY IT IS OBLIGATED.

IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE AVAILABLE MONEY.

THEN YOU HAVE THE 480 OFF THE 2021 COS AVAILABLE.

>> I UNDERSTAND AND HOW MUCH MORE, SCOTT.

DO YOU HAVE TO COME BACK? >> I CAN'T TELL YOU.

>> BUT IF YOU COMMIT TODAY CAN YOU COME BACK TO COURT NEXT TIME FOR HELP. I'M ASKING FROM THE ARPA

FUNDS. >> ARPA HAS NOT BEEN VETTED.

KY TELL YOU IT'S NOT GOING TO FLY WITH LOST SERVICE.

I WOULD LIKE TO GET LOST REVENUES.

YOU HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO ATTEND ONE OF THE THREE PUBLIC FORUMS. IF YOU HAD.

YOU RECOGNIZE AND PUT FORTH OVER 100 MILLION OF NEED IN THE COMMUNITY. WHAT IS NOT FAIR TO ASK PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO TAKE A SECOND BACK CHAIR WHEN THERE IS CLEARLY PLENTY OF MONEY IN THE T S RIGHT NOW.

I WILL HAVE TO SPEND. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

MEARS SAID THIS WILL TAKE UP THE REST.

I'M SAYING I HAVE -- I'LL HAVE TO SPEND IT ON THE NEXT ASK AND THE NEXT ASK. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST AND THIS IS NOT THE LAST. DO IT NOW AND COME BACK AND ASK FOR HELP SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA BY THE TIME YOU COME BACK ON THE NEXT ONE. THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY.

OR HALF OF IT. I SPEND 235,000.

I PUT 50,000. >> IT IS WORTH IT, ISN'T IT?

>> IT IS OF COURSE. AS A COUNTY JUDGE HOW MUCH YOU HAVE PUT INTO THE PROJECT FROM YOUR COS.

LET'S ASK THAT. WHERE IS SOME OF YOURS AS A

COUNTY JUDGE. >> DO YOU REMEMBER HOW MUCH MONEY I GAVE TO THE OBSERVATION DECK.

TERESA. EXCUSE ME YOU BROUGHT UP AN EXCELLENT POINT I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU HOW MUCH I SPLIT THAT

50%. >> YOU DIDN'T PUT 50.

THERE WERE COST OVERRETURNS I PUT 300,000 INTO THAT IN

ADDITION TO THE 300,000. >> YOU DIDN'T PUT 50.

YOU PUT ABOUT 25. I'M ASKING HOW MUCH HAVE YOU HELPED ON THIS PROJECT OUT OF OUR COS THAT YOU HAVE.

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THAT'S RIGHT. >> IT IS THE COUNTY JUDGE I HAVE DEDICATED ALL MY COS TO THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY FOR THE SHERIFF. MY 2021.

>> YOU HAVE NO COS LEFT NO FUNDS AVAILABLE.

>> I SAID THAT DURING THE PRIORITIZATION.

>> ZERO LEFT THAT YOU CAN HELP.

>> I HAVE TERESA I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LEFT FROM PREVIOUS AND I HAVE THAT'S NOT ALREADY COMMITTED.

I HAVE COMMITTED EVERYTHING TO COURTHOUSE SUP SUP SECURITY WHICH NO ONE ELSE HAS HELPED.

IS THAT CORRECT? >> ZERO LEFT.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> I'M ASKING THE QUESTION.

>> FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN THE IDEA HERE IS TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. WE HAVE A DILL MA'AM.

WE HAVE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM WE'RE POINTING OUT IS THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO USE THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK WE DON'T HAVE TO DIVE INTO IT.

YOU SUGGESTED HALF. BUT UNDERSTAND, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK AGAIN BECAUSE I WAS HOPING TO DO THIS ONCE AND BE COVERED. WE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH.

I'M TELLING THE JUDGE IT WILL BE MORE.

>> THERE IS UNKNOWN. >> A LOT MORE.

>> LOOK AT THE ITEMS MORE TO REPLACE A REACH AND --

>> RIGHT, RIGHT. >> SO HOW ABOUT WE MAKE A SUGGESTION. IF I MAY THAT 50% OF THE NEEDED AMOUNT, SCOTT, WOULD BE TAKEN FROM THE 2021 COS.

WITH THE REMAINDER 50% TAKEN FROM THE COS, AND.

>> THE REMAINING 2016. >> WHATEVER MY HALF IS I'LL COME UP. GET WITH ME.

>> THAT WAY, AGAIN I DON'T KNOW HOW THE COURT FEELS THIS IS JUST A MOTION. THAT'S A MOTION.

AND THAT WAY WE CAN ADDRESS -- MY CONCERN IS WE CANNOT AFFORD TO STAY STILL. WE'RE IN HURRICANE SEASON. IT IS CONCERNING TO HAVE THE BUILDINGS UNFINISHED.

YOU KNOW AND EXPOSED. >> I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.

WHAT WE SAID WAS THAT WHEN WE, IF WE GET THE INSURANCE RESOLVED THAT IT WOULD GO BACK.

>> YOU BET AND FOR FROM WHAT I USED AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE SAID THAT. WE WOULD REPLENISH THE COS, I DON'T REMEMBER -- I MEAN THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY BEEN IT -- WHEN IT COMES UP. YOU CAN BRING THAT UP.

>> I THINK WE DID. I ASK COMING BACK INTO THE

CIP. >> I SAID TO THE PROJECT.

WOULD GO YOU BACK IN. IF THAT IT BE GIVEN IN THE

PERCENTAGE IT CAME. >> GO TO THE PROJECT, THE PROJECT MAY BE FINISHED BY THE TIME WE GET THE MONEY.

LET'S HOPE THAT IT IS. >> THE HOPE TO PUT INTO THE

CIP. >> IT IS TOUGH WHEN MONEY IS

TIGHT, ISN'T IT, SCOTT? >> I HAVE NOT ENJOYED COMING BACK WITH THE ITEMS. I KNOW YOU HAVE THIS ON RECORD. I WAS ASKED TO COVER WHEN WE STARTED I SAID THAT SEVERAL TIMES.

>> THESE ARE FORESEEABLE BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT WHEN YOU DO THE COS. YOU HAVE TO SORT OF ALLOT WHAT

THE BIDS ARE, RIGHT. >> HAVING SAID THAT.

YOU SAID IT AS THEY SAY YOU SAID IT, YOU TOLD US.

YOU TOLD US AGAIN AND AGAIN. THERE IS NO BLAME HERE AT ALL FOR YOU. YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF KEEPING US, YOU KNOW, UP TO DATE. IT IS JUST THAT IT IS EXPENSIVE. ISN'T IT TO DO CONSTRUCTION.

ON THE COAST. >> AND ON THE COAST FOR SURE.

>> SO THAT WAS THAT WAS JUST A DISCUSS.

>> GIVE ME A SECOND. THAT'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR I'M SORRY ANY MORE DISCUSSION OR

QUESTIONS? >> OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE.

>> OPPOSE >> APPRECIATE IT.

>> NUMBER 14, 15 AND 16. A BAM, BAM.

YOU APPROVED WHAT I PRESENTED TO YOU.

[15. Discuss and consider Change Order No. 2 for Mako Construction to address window replacements in the I.B. Magee Multipurpose Building.]

LET'S DO IT FORMALLY. CONSIDER THAT THE CHANGE ORDER

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TO MAKO HAS THE FUNDING SOURCE THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IS THERE A

MOTION? >> AND A MOTION AND HOW ABOUT A

SECOND? >> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE.

[16. Discuss and consider approval of Supplemental Agreement No. 4 for additional construction phase services to the Professional Service Contract with LAN Engineering for the I.B. Magee Multi-Purpose Office Building.]

>> AND THEN THE SECOND 16 IS CONTAINED IN THE PROJECT COST.

AND WOULD BE CONTAINED WITHIN THE FUNDS APPROPRIATED THE NUMBER 4 FOR THE ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING REGARDING THE

IBMAGEE MULTI-PURPOSE OFFICE. >> MOTION, SO MOVE.

>> SECOND. >> SAY AYE.

>> SCOTT. YOU PUT IN A GOOD DAY'S WORK.

TYNER YOU DIDN'T THINK WE WOULD LET YOU HAVE THE LAST MEETING

BE EASY NOW, DID YOU. >> I WANTED TO GO OUT WITH A BANG.

>> I TOLD YOU. >> IT'S NOT OVER YET.

>> SO, THAT -- YOU KNOW, SCOTT, GREAT WORK.

TRULY AND WHEN SCOTT HAS A CHANCE.

ST IT IS AN INCREDIBLE PROJECT AND THE LAST OCTOBER MEETING

SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> COME INTO IT.

>> HAVE HIM COME IN, LET THE PUBLIC.

>> AND YOU KNOW. OKAY.

>> THANK YOU, SCOTT. >> HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

>> YES, YES, YES. >> WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM

17, 18 UNLESS YOU LEAVE. >> JUDGE.

I SAID THEY COULD BE NEXT. >> YOU WILL FOLLOW IT RIGHT

[18. Discuss matters related to S.B. 598 relating to Auditable Voting Systems.]

AWAY. >> I FORGOT SHE WANTED.

SHE ASKED ABOUT TABLING 18. >> THAT'S DO THAT.

>> MOTION THAT'S ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF CLERK, TABLE

[23. Discuss and consider an alternate to the construction of a new animal control facility.]

TABLING 18. >> OKAY SUPER WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS MOVE TO 23. AND THAT WAS CONSIDERING ALTERNATE TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY. AT THIS POINT.

IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO GIVE TO TYNER.

, LET ME SET THE STAGE BEFORE YOU COME UP AND INTRODUCE YOU GUYS HERE. THIS HAS A GENESIS IN A FEW WAYS. LISA BUCKHOLT WAS HERE MOST OF THE DAY. BUT SHE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH US BUT THERE IS A NEW GROUP IN THE COMMUNITY FORMED AND TWO OF THE MEMBERS PROBABLY THE FOUNDING MEMBERS ARE HERE WITH US TO INTRODUCE TO US SOUTH TEXAS RESCUE BY STAR GROUP.

AND THE CONNECTION TO NUECES COUNTY IS THAT, AS YOU KNOW THE COURT HAS ALREADY EMBARKED IN ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS WORTH OF WORK, BY THE WAY JUAN RAMIREZ IS HERE AS WELL.

WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED FOR TWO AND A HALF, THREE YEARS WORKING WITH SHELTER PLANNERS OF AMERICA, OUR COMMUNITY AND ADVISORY ENGAGE AND DESIGN FOR A NEW FACILITY ANIMAL CARE AND CONTROL. AND TO DISCUSS TODAY.

>> AND BEFORE WE GET TO THE GOOD STUFF.

LET ME TELL IN ADVANCE I WILL HAVE THE I HOPE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS TO WORK WITH THE STAR GROUP. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE SHELTER PLANNERS OF AMERICA.

KYLE LEBLANC. THE STAR GROUP AND JUAN RAM IRRES AND SO WE CAN SIT AND SEIZE HOW WE FIND EXCITING WAYS TO WORK TOGETHER. SO, WITH THAT IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTRODUCTION. WILL YOU INTRODUCE THE STAR GROUP TO US AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT HOW YOU THINK THERE MAY BE POSSIBILITIES TO WORK TOGETHER IN THE FUTURE?

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS I APPRECIATE THE TIME. THE TEAM APPRECIATES THE TIME.

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LET'S INTRODUCE OURSELVES. MOST OF THE AND FIRST LET ME TELL THAT YOU I ENTERED INTO A FAVORITE PUBLIC AGREEMENT THE FRIENDS THE AND MANAGING OFF THE MUSEUM FOR THE FIRST TIME.

AND SHOWING THAT'S BEEN A PASSION FOR MANY YEARS.

WE HOPE WITH THE GROUP AS A 501 C 3 WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

WE'RE ABOUT THE SOLUTION AND WE DON'T WANT TO FORGET ABOUT THE ANIMALS. I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE INDIVIDUALS WITH ME. WE HAVE DEBBIE HAMMOND THE COFOUNDER WHO IS AN AMAZING BID ENTREPRENEUR AND INDIVIDUAL HERSELF. AND I HAVE WITH ME PAUL BANE AND AN EXPERT IN IN THE FOR PROTEST MANAGEMENT AND MUCH MORE HAS BEEN HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THE CITY AND COUNTY ISSUES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. AND JUAN RAMIREZ IS HERE FROM THE -- ALE CARE AND CONTROL. TALK.

WE'RE ALL HERE WITH THE SAME VISION AND WE HAVE A POWER POINT IT IS SHORT. YOU WILL LIKE THIS WE'RE ABOUT LUGES SOLUTIONS. THIS IS A STORY TOLD TO ME.

SEVERAL YEARS AGO IN THE COUNTY A PUPPY.

WAS A LABRA DOOR. AND RETRIEVERS, THEY HAVEERN ARE CERTAIN MANNERISMS AND THINGS THAT ARE TRADES TO A LABRA DOOR. THE PUPPY GOT OUT AND AND IN A BIT. AND AND FINISHING THAT'S THE NATURE TO THE ANIMAL WHAT HAPPENED WAS WHAT TRANSPIRED TO THE PUPPY WAS TAKEN A DANGER AND PUT IN A QUARANTINE FOR 30 DAYS. THIS IS A PUPPY.

THE RULES AND REGULATIONS THE DOG WOULD FOREVER HAVE A TITLE IT WOULD BE A BITER AND THE PEOPLE WHO OWNED IT WOULD HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT IS HEAVY.

THERE IS A HUGE FINE TO GET THE DOG BACK.

THE FINE WAS IN EXCESS OF WHAT THEY COULD AFFORD THEY PASSED ON TAKING THE PUPPY BACK AND PUT DOWN.

I TELL YOU THIS BECAUSE IT IS TO ILLUSTRATES AN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE THAT IS SYSTEMIC IN YOUR HUMANE SOCIETY, YOUR SYSTEM YOUR PICTURE OF HOW WE TAKE CARE OF ANIMALS.

SKI THE QUESTION WITH THAT WOULD THAT HOLD TRUE.

SORT OF. IT COULD HAPPEN.

IF THAT ANIMAL BIT A HUMAN FOR ANY REASON, THE SAME WOULD BE TRUE. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE IS SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT HERE AND I WAS LISTENING TO SOME OF THE INTERESTING CHALLENGES THAT ARE HERE IN YOUR COUNTY. AND WHAT I HERE IS WHAT IF WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT A TURN KEY PROGRAM IN PLACE? AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT.

LET'S BE THE SOLUTION HOW DID I GET STARTED.

IT STARTED WITH A PROBLEM. I SOLVE THEM.

THE PROBLEM WAS. THERE WERE KITTENS IN MY YARD.

NOT JUST ONE BUT MORE PREGNANT KITTENS I CALLED I DIDN'T K KNOW WHAT TO DO I I TOOK THEM IN.

I'M AN ANIMAL LOVER. I TRAINED DOGS BUT THIS WAS NOT MY FOR TEXT. I HAVE OTHER BUSINESSES TO RUN. I LOOKED FOR A SOLUTION.

THERE WAS NO SOLUTION. EVERYONE WAS BUSY.

THEY WERE FULL. THEY WERE AT CAPACITY.

NO OPPORTUNITY. DEBBIE AND I GOT TOGETHER WE HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, I DIDN'T KNOW THE INTEREST AND PASSION AND UNDERSTANDING OF HOW SHE WAS

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INVOLVED IN ANIMAL CARE. THIS BUSINESS EXECUTIVE HAS BEEN ALL OVER THE WORLD IS HERE IN CORPUS CHRISTI.

THEN I MET LISA HOE IS ANOTHER BRILLIANT WOMAN WHO HAS FRANCHISED BUSINESSS. SHE SAID I HAVE DONE A LOT.

WE WANT TO LOOK AT A SOLUTION TOGETHER.

WE THINK WE GOT IT. IF YOU PULL UP THE POWER

POINT. >> CONNIE, WOULD YOU DO THAT FOR US? , WE HAVE A 501 C 3.

A IN THE FOR PROFIT. THERE ARE A LOT OF BENEFITS IN A TYPE OF PARTNERSHIP. BEING A NOT FOR PROFIT AND THE CATS AND ANIMALS AND CHICKENS IN THE CASE.

>> THERE IS A CHALLENGE AND A DEMAND AND A NEED THAT'S IN THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE IN THE STATE.

WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM OR A SOLUTION TO CATCH THEM AND SO PUT THEM DOWN. WE DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION TO MANAGE THEM. IF WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF IT THEY MULTIPLE WE NEED TO LOOK AT A SOLUTION.

FINANCIALLY. WE WANT TO LOOK AT WAYS TO REDUCE THE COST AND THE IMPACT ON THE COUNTY FOR ANIMAL CARE AND THE OTHER COMPONENTSMENT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT. AND LEADERSHIP THERE IS THE FRUSTRATION NOT CAPTURING ONE PART.

MOST OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THERE ARE GROUPS NOT FOR PROFIT.

AD HOC AND THE OTHER NOT FOR PROFITS WORKING IN SILOS THEY DO NOT WORK TOGETHER. OUR INTEREST IS TO BE AN ORGANIZATION AND PUT THEM TOGETHER UNDER ONE 501 C 3.

THEY CAN COULD WHAT THEY DO. WE'LL PARTNER WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS WHICH WE ARE PEEWEES ON AND ON AND HAVE A BROADER VISION. HOW CAN WE ENHANCE THE OPPORTUNITY THING THEM TOGETHER THAT WE CAN DO.

WE'RE NOT GENERALS A BUILDING THAT WILL TAKE BETWEEN NOW AND LOOKING AT THE EXPENSE OF WHAT THIS MAY BE AND HOW CAN WE HELP WITH THAT EFFORT. HOW CAN THAT BE REDUCED.

WHAT IS THE VISION IF YOU BUILD A BUILDING.

WHAT IS THE PLAN? WE CAN GIVE YOU A TURN KEY.

WE'RE OPEN TO IDEAS AND WAYS WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO COME TO A COMMON ALTY OF SOLUTIONS. WE JUST WANT TO PRESENT WHO WE ARE. AND WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN REDUCED. IT IS A COMMON ALTY PUTTING THESE TOGETHER. AND WE ARE SOPHISTICATED INDIVIDUALS WHO CAN OFFER A PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT TEAM WHICH RUNNING AROUND AND SOLVING CHALLENGES.

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AND SPAY AND NEUTER. AND ANIMAL WELFARE AND VETTING FOR EVERYONE ELSE'S EDUCATION. IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE.

HOW A CUTE PUPPY MAY NOT BE CUTE AS THEY GROW UP.

WE CAN OFFER SOMETHING MAGICAL.

THANK THANKS TO DEBBIE AND THE TEAM.

SHE HAS PUT TOGETHER A NETWORK OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION THAT CAN TRANSPORT ANIMALS. NEUTERING AND SPAYING SO THEY DO NOT REPRODUCE. AND ADOPPING THEM.

TO THE NEXT SLIDE. A CART WE HAVE TO SO THE PROPOSE AND THE PROPOSED PROCESS.

A VIEW OF THE CHALLENGE AND REPAIRING A SYSTEM THAT IS DA DATED. THAT'S ON CUE SOME OF THE STARS SHE WORKS WITH. I WANT TO YOU KNOW AND INTERESTED IN, WORKING TOGETHER.

ALL ABOUT IT. THAT'S TEAM EFFORT.

WE'RE CONFIDENT WHAT WE CAN SOLVE PROBLEMS. WE KNOW THAT THERE IS SOME BUILD IN PLACE AND MONEY IN PLACE S IT POSSIBLE TO PUT A PAUSE SO WE CAN REGROUP NOW YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY YOU DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE.

THINK ABOUT IT MEET ADD SAY HOW WOULD THIS LOOK AND WORK YOU DID SOMETHING FEW PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO DO.

YOU HAVE AN IDEA YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO INVEST THE TIME TO TALK TO US AND REALLY TRY TO AT LEAST JUST START THE INTRODUCTION. IT STARTS WITH A CONVERSATION AND THEN DEVELOPS. LIKE OUR GREAT PROJECTS I THINK WE'RE COMMITTED TO GETTING THAT WORKING GROUP TOGETHER VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE THE PIECE OF RESCUE I'M -- I FEEL SO CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER ON ANIMAL RESCUE.

THE ONLY CONCERN AND I EXPRESS THIS TO YOU THAT I DON'T WANT THIS COURT TO CONFUSE RESCUE WITH THE MISSION THAT WE HAVE FOR ANIMAL CONTROL. THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT ARE YOU DOING. I KNOW THERE IS A WAY TO DO BOTH. WE KIND OF MET A HAIR TOO LATE. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT YOU HAVE A SISTER IN AND THE COMMITTEE WE TALK ABOUT LISA.

SHE IS A GOOD LATER. THEY BROUGHT THE SAME SITUATION TO YOU US BABE A YEAR AGO AND SAID YOU ARE OLD SCHOOL.

LET US GET YOU UP TO DATE. ALL THE GOOD THING THAT YOU WANT YEAR' IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING HAPPEN.

AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING AND THE SOPS THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. THEY ARE PERFECTLY TIMED.

WHAT IS SO NICE TO HAVE PARTNER TO DO THAT ANIMAL RESCUE.

OUR LOGO HAS OPOSSUMS AND RACCOONS AND THAT GET KILLED AND YOU KNOW WILD PIGS AND BOARS.

WE HAVE SO MANY OTHER STRANGE THINGS, NOT STRANGE BUT THEY'RE NOT ADOPTABLE. OKAY.

I THINK THAT WE SPOKE WITH OUR PROGRAM MANAGER ABOUT THIS AFTER WE TALKED ABOUT THE BUILDING HAS A PURPOSE.

AND I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO CONFUSE THE BUILDING WITH THE

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AND NUMBER TWO LOW CALFOR STRAYS ALL THE WRONG THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO ANIMALS. YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY WE GOT INVOLVED WITH THIS BECAUSE LISA BROUGHT THIS TO OUR ATTENTION.

I ASKED KYLE IS THERE A WAY TO MAKE THIS HAPPY.

AND HE SAID YES. AFTER THE MEETING GET EVERYONE TOGETHER. COMMISSIONER MAREZ, WE THINK THERE IS A WAY TO DO IT. I WANT TO CAUTION THE MONEY APPROPRIATED THE 3 MILLION COME FROM CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION THAT HAS NO ACCEPTABILITY TO BE TRANSFERRED TO A 501 C 3.

THAT IS WE REPORT TO UNDERWRITERS, RIGHT.

I DON'T WANT TO YOU GET SCARED ABOUT THAT.

THERE ARE OTHER AVENUES. WE HAVE BEEN ASKING ALL NON-PROPROFITS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY TO BE A PART OF THE PUBLIC FORUM AND HAVE ANOTHER ONE.

SO I CAN SEE HOW THE RELIEF PLAN ACT FUNDS CAN BE MAYBE CONSIDERED YOU KNOW FOR A PORTION OF WHAT THE EFFORT IS.

WE THOUGHT THAT WHILE WE WERE BUILDING THE NEW FACILITY, THAT THE COMMISSION SAID WE WANT TO BE A PART OF FOSTERING AN ADOPTION. LISA TOLD US HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS. IF YOU DO THAT ALREADY AND SOME OF THE OTHER PIECES LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT THE SURGICAL AREAS. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO SURGICAL.

THAT CAN REDUCE THE FOOT PRINT OR THE COST OF THE BUILDING.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? , GETTING TOGETHER CRITICAL.

>> WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN AN EMBARRASSING POSITION WHERE WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AND NOTHING TO RUN INSIDE IT.

PICKING UP ANIMALS AND WHAT FILLS THE BUILDING WHEN YOU HAVE ANIMALS ON QUARANTINE OR SOME OTHER REASON BEFORE THEY TRANSPORT. WE WANT TO FILL THAT.

WE'RE TRYING TO FILL IT AND HELP YOU WITH THAT EFFORT IN A MEANINGFUL WAY. WE HAVE FINANCIAL SUPPORT IN

MANY. >> I THINK WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE A HOLDING PLACE WITH IRT THIS MORNING IS FORGIVE ME HOW MANY DID WE DO. ANIMALS DID WE TAKE CARE OF IN NINE DAYS, WE TICK CARE OF 1085 AND WE HAD TO TURN AWAY PEOPLE. WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE THE ACCIDENT THEY GO TO TRUSTED LOW CALS IT IS NOT AN ISSUE TO BRING AN ANIMAL IN FOR THE COMMUNITY TO GO EITHER WAY.

WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO NEED TO HAVE A PRESENCE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY THAT FUNCTIONS DIFFERENTLY THAN THE URBAN CENTER. WE CON SUR.

-- WE CONCUR. >> WE CAN TAKE THAT SCALE AND CHANGE THAT SO YOU KNOW THE BUILDING WAS A $5.8 MILLION BUILDING THAT WE YOU MAY HAVE COME AT THE GOD SEND TIME TOE WORK WITH THE BUILDINGS COULD NOT GET US ANYWHERE WE ARE HAD TO GO TO A NEW ONE. IT RINKED NUMBER ONE OUT OF THE PROJECTS. I JUST -- I WOULD SAY THAT, AGAIN. THE SOLUTION MINDEDNESS.

WE DON'T GET ENOUGH OF THAT. THERE HAS TO BE A WAY.

I DON'T WANT TO DECEIVE YOU THAT SOME OF THE 3 MILLION CAN BE APPROPRIATED BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE COUNCIL ADVISED US.

BUT THAT IS WELL UNDERWAY. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH.

WE DIDN'T BUILD IT FOR ADOPTION AND FOSTERING AND HOPING TO DO

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THAT THERE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> IT IS GOING TO BE A NIGHT WEAR WITH THE OVER POPULATION.

AND A LOT OF THE ANIMALS CAN HAVE TWO LITTERS A SEASON.

ARE YOU JUST PUTTING THE SMALLEST BAND-AID SAYING NOW YOU HAVE TO PROMISE TO FIX THEM IN 30 DAYS, DOES NOT WORK.

THEY ARE 1200. AND BY NEXT YEAR THEY WILL BE DOUBLE. WE DO LIVESTOCK.

I PLACED HORSES AND PIGS. AND THERE ARE OTHER PLACES.

>> AND WHAT ABOUT THE DISEASE. YOU KNOW AS YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE DISEASE.

I DON'T THINK WE'LL WE LINK WISH IT -- RELINQUISH IT, RIGHT. I THINK THERE WILL BE GREAT SYNERGYS AND GO THROUGH THE LIST BUT COMMISSIONER MAREZ.

COULD I YIELD TO CHESNEY. >> NO, GO AHEAD.

>> SO. MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU MADE TO US I AGREE WITH THE JUDGE, I APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT IS GREAT IT IS A GREAT ITEM.

I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING ON ONE HAND I WISH WE HAD KNOWN ABOUT THIS A YEAR AGO BEFORE WE WERE ARE TODAY.

WE HAVE NOT STARTED CONSTRUCTION REHIRED A DESIGNER. THE REQUEST FOR A PAUSE WE SHOULD LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS. YOU SAY THE THINGS WE WERE GOING TO USE THAT FOR CAN YOU DO.

WE DON'T NEED THAT BUILDING. THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY. IF THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

THAT'S A DISTINCTION IF YOU CAN DO THE THINGS THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS. AND FULL DETAIL BUT WHAT YOU SAID TODAY IS YOU HAVE A BUILDING THAT YOU WILL CONVERT INTO A SPACE FOR ANIMALS. WE HAVE A BUILDING OUT THAT WE NEED TO KEEP A LOCATION OUT THERE.

WE NEED TO SERVICE OUTLYING PARTS OF THE COUNTY.

WHY BUILD A BUILDING BEFORE WE TAKE A PAUSE AND SEE IF WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD IT. MAYBE NOT.

>> WE PUT THE MONEY INTO THE FACILITY TO KEEP US A A SUBSTATION SO WE CAN SERVICE ALL THOSE PEOPLE BUT WE USE THE BUILDING THAT YOU HAVE INTOWN FOR -- IN TOWN FOR WHATEVER SERVICES THAT YOU WILL OFFER AND WE CAN SAVE SOME OF THAT MONEY. YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR THE 3 MILLION, ARE YOU SAYING -- YEAR' SAYING -- YOU'RE SAYING, USE YOUR 3 MILLION IN A BETTER WAY A MILLION INTO BUILDING AS A SUBSTATION, YOUR BUILD SOMETHING THE MAIN THING THEN WE SPEND THAT ON PROJECTS IN ROBSTOWN NOBODY THINKS I'M TRYING TO PULL SOMETHING OUT OF THE AIR AND BE SPENT.

THAT'S WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY WHEN YOU CAME TO US.

TO ME THAT -- THAT MERITS A QUICK MEETING.

THAT'S A MAYBE. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN YOU CALLED ME. AND WE HAVE NOT KNOWN ABOUT THIS FOR LONG. IT IS A GREAT CONCEPT.

PAUSE, STOP SPENDING MONEY HERE UNTIL WE CAN SEE IF WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD THE BUILDING CAN YOU DO THAT WITHOUT US BUILDING THE BUILDING S THAT WRONG THAT I SAID IN.

>> YOU ARE BUILDING A BUILDING BUT NO INFRASTRUCTURE.

NO PLAN TO DO RESCUE AND ANIMAL CONTROL AND.

>> NO, NO. >> THAT'S WRONG.

I REALLY WILL ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE REQUEST IS. WE HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY

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TO SHARE WITH YOU OUR FEES ABILITY STUDY.

THE COURT HAS INVESTED INTO DOING IT RIGHT.

WE HAVE AWESOME PLANS. GREAT IDEAS THE BOARD CAME SO MANY TIMES IT'S WANTED BY THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK THERE IS IT IS LIKE RED MEAT TO TELL PEOPLE THAT CAN YOU SAVE MONEY HERE. THE FACT THAT YOU CAN SAVE US MAKES PEOPLE PANTING, NO PUN BUT I'M NOT THE EXPERT BEFORE WEE GET YOU EXITED TO WORK WITH THE COMMISSIONER WHO SPENT THREE YEARS GETTING THIS GOING WE HAD THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE HAVE THE NEED. THE DATA THAT YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED IS A FRACTION ADD CORPUS CHRISTI HAS.

THEY SAID 2000. >> THE NUMBERS ARE NOT ACCURATE. HAVING SAID THAT.

AND IT IS FRESH. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY THIS IS THE WILL WE SAVE MONEY? YOU BET WE ARE.

REMEMBER THIS BUILDING AND CON TO 3 MILLION AND THAT AND THE BUILDING. WE WERE NEVER GOING TO GET TO 5.8 WITHOUT SERIOUS HELP. IT BRINGS IT DOWN IN A WAY WE COULD AFFORD. THERE IS GOING TO BE A HUGE DISCUSSION. I WOULD CAUTION THE WORD PAUSE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

LET US MEET NEXT WEEK, WARE ABOUT EXCITED ABOUT MEETING WITH THE STAR GROUP. KYLE HAS THE RIGHT WORES.

I'M NERVOUS ABOUT ASKING US TO TOP WORK ON A PROJECT THAT'S NEEDED. THAT'S BEEN REVEALED BY THE DATA SETS. AND THINK ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE MOVE. WE NEED A MEETING SUPER QUICK.

>> JUDGE IN THE MEETING THOUGH, WOULD AN OPTION BE AND CONSIDER SOMETHING HAVING SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE BUILDING.

THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE THE ASK IS FOR US TO CONSIDER SOMETHING OTHER THAN. THAT WAS WHAT I GOT, WAS TO CONSIDER SOMETHING OTHER THAN BUILDING THAT BUILDING.

BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE A MORE EFFICIENT WAY TO DO IT.

>> THAT'S ALL I'M, WE'RE OFFERING YOU A TURN KEY PROGRAM AND HANDED ON A SILVER PLATTER AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE, ARE YOU BEGGING PEOPLE TO TAKE THEM AWAY FROM THE SHELTER BED WE'LL MURDER ALL OF THEM. I GET IT IT WORKS FOR THE MOST PART. IT IS INTERESTING BUT WE'RE OFFERING YOU IS, LOOK, WE HAVE A SOLUTION. WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS WHEREAS CAN YOU CATCH THE ANIMALS AND VET THEM SO THEY WILL NOT OVERPOPULATE YOU GIVE THEM BACK TO RESIDENTS THEY'RE OUTSIDE AGAIN IN TWO SECONDS. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FIX THEM.

>> I CAN SEE US WORKING TOGETHER BUT WHAT I CAN'T SEE AN ABDICATION OF WHAT THE STATUTES.

NO ONE CAN MAKE A DECISION TODAY WHAT OUR ROLES WOULD BE I COULD NOT TRANSFER THE RABBIS TO YOU, YOU PUT DOWN REGARDLESS THAT'S WHAT YOU DO. IT'S NOT LIKE WE WANT TO TRANSFER ANY ANIMALS WITH RABIES YOU PUT THEM DOWN.

YOU DON'T WAIT. BUT WITH THE BUILDING YOU SPEND

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3 MILLION OR FIVE MILLION. YOU KNOW PUTTING THAT INTO A BUILDING OF ANIMAL CATCHING AND HOLDING THEM.

IT'S NOT MY BUSINESS SINCE YOU HAVE ALREADY GOT YOUR HEART SET ON. THAT IT'S NOT THAT.

WE'RE SAYING WE HAVE A THREE-STEP PROGRAM BUT WE COME IN AND GET THE ANIMAL AND. THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING AND REINVENT THE WHEEL NOWMENT WE HAVE A BUILDING.

A LOT OF THE VOLUNTEERS AND THEY WILL NOT BE SHOVING THEM OUT THEY SAID WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

YOU'RE THE LUGES I DON'T NOSE THAT I WOULD TRY TO HIRE A NEW -- YOU'RE THE SOLUTION, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD TRY TO HIRE SOMEONE NEW. AND WE'RE TRANSPORTING ANIMALS OUT AT LEAST 100 A WEEK AT THIS POINT BETWEEN US AND, ONE IS EXPERIENCE THAT AS THEY SAY I MEAN THERE SHOULD BE VETTING ON

BOTH SIDES. >> YOU GUYS, YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL WITH THE NEW BUILDING, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, THAT'S A GREAT EXPLORATION TO DO.

ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE.

THERE HAS TO BE TIME ALLOWED. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY ANIMALS YOUR BUILDING WILL HOLD? , WE DO.

KYLE HAS THAT ALL THAT INFORMATION.

IS KYLE ON? , I DON'T SEE HIM.

>> I DON'T SEE HIM. , WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF TRYING TO STRETCH DOLLARS. WHAT I'M SAY SOMETHING THAT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND ONE ANOTHER ON THAT.

BUT I'M HOPING THE COMMISSIONER WILL LEAD THE CHARGE AND IN FIGURING OUT WHAT IS LEFT. I DON'T THINK BY HAVING THIS

COME UP. >> I DON'T WANT THE THIS IS MY

OPINION. >> I DON'T WANT THE KILLING AN INTER THAT'S I DON'T THINK IT IS MY WORK IN THIS HAS BEEN IT IS MY BACKYARD WE PUT THEM IN AREAS NEAR THE FAIRGROUNDS WE PUT THEM OFF BUSINESS 77 AND HIGHWAY 44 THERE AT THE CROSS RODS AT ROBSTOWN. WE NEED THAT YOU KNOW IN ALL KINDS OF SERVICES OUR CLERK YOU KNOW SHE HAS A SATELLITE OFFICE IN EVERY CITY IN THE COUNTY. SO I SEE, YOU KNOW SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHAT WE NEED TO KEEP THAT COMPONENT, HOW DO WE DO THAT TALK IT OUT. THERE IS INFORMATION THAT IS GREAT. I THINK THERE IS SOME THAT MAYBE HAS NOT CAPTURED THE FACTS THAT I KNOW, I HAVE BEEN IMMERSED IN IT. WE WERE TALKING AND I HAVE

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FALLEN INTO THIS AND. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO NOT MISS AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH SOMEONE.

SO THAT'S -- THAT'S WHAT I WANT THAT.

I THINK WE CAN MAKE IT WORK IF WE UNDERSTAND HOW TO WORK IT TOGETHER. THE BUILDING DESIGN I SAT IN A FEW OF THE MEETINGS WITH THE PLANNERS.

AND SO TO SEE THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE AND OTHER COMMUNITIES IS GREAT. AND IT WAS JUST THE SHELL, RIGHT. JUST THE OUTSIDE WOULD LOOK, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO LOOK IN THE INSIDE HOW IT IS BROKEN DOWN.

AND THAT'S BEEN A PART OF OUR DISCUSSION AND YOU HAVE STARTED MEETING WITH. SHE IS A GREAT VOLUNTEER LONG BEFORE I BECAME COMMISSIONER. SHE IS DOING WORK AND WE SHOULD BE HOW MUCH LONGER WE'LL KEEP HER DOING THAT.

BECAUSE SHE HAS A PASSION ABOUT THAT AND MAYBE IT CAN CONNECT WITH YOU ALL. YOU HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO CONNECT WITH HER. I DON'T WANT TO SAY MAYBE.

SHE IS ONE OF THE GREAT RESOURCES TO HELP US.

SHE HAS BEEN PUSHING TO HAVE US UPDATED OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND GET AWAY FROM BEING A KILL SHELTER THE WAY IT USED TO BE. WE NEED TO GET INTO ANIMAL SERVICES AND ANIMAL CARE SO. I THINK THAT ALL OF THAT CAN REALLY KIND OF COME TOGETHER AT THIS TIME.

THE JUDGE SAID IT RIGHT. THIS IS THE RIGHT TIMING I THINK. DOES IT MEAN WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW KEEP ON MOVING FORWARD AND I THINK THE DESIGN WORK.

HOWEVER IT IS BUILT CAN BE USED TO CREATE A COMPONENT THAT IS ADOPTIONS BECAUSE I THINK WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT OR SAY WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO IT ON OUR OWN.

, YOU CANNOT KEEP ADOPTING ANIMALS OUT WITHOUT FIXING

THEM. >> ABSOLUTELY.

THAT INCLUDES. >> IF I CAN.

WE DON'T GIVE. WE JUST VOTED ON A WE DON'T GIVE JUAN AND HIS DEPARTMENT THE MONEY FOR THE MEDICAL CONTENT. YOU ARE RIGHT.

THAT'S GOT TO BE INCLUDED AS WELL.

THERE ARE SO MANY PARTS THAT MUST BE INCLUDED.

I THINK THAT'S WITH LISA INVOLVED.

WITH YOU ALL INVOLVED, MEETING WITH US IT WILL BE POSITIVE AND HELP US SEE WHERE WE SHOULD GO.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE FACILITY YOU HAVE HERE AND THE PARTNERSHIPS. WE TALK ABOUT -- THAT CATCHES.

A LOT OF ATTENTION. I HOPE WE CAN DO THAT.

I FEEL BAD THAT YOU HAD TO WAIT TO GET TO THIS POINT AND LISA HAD TO LEAVE. WE NEED TO SPEND TIME -- SPEND TIME ON THIS. WE HAVE OPINIONS I'M SCRATCHING THE SURFACE WHAT I HAVE BEEN TAUGHT OR LEARNED OVER THIS TIME. THERE IS A LOT TO SHARE.

THINK ABOUT IT. WE COULD MAYBE WITH MONEY WHAT WE DON'T HAVE TO. IF WE CAN YOU SAVE $100,000.

WE CAN BUILD NEW PENS THAT DON'T HAVE RANCHS.

WE TAKE THAT DOWN. AND THE SUPERINTENDENT IN HIS OFFICE. AND FOR THE NEW FACILITY.

WE HAVE LEASED THAT OUT. AND WHAT AN ENERGY TO RAISE THE ANIMALS FOR THE SHOW. AND AND WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THERE IS A LOT OF POTENTIAL THERE.

TO MAKE THIS. I DON'T WANT IT TO BE DONE

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MORNING. AND WE CANNOT DO IT.

WE HAVE TO FIX IT. , WE WANTED TO SAY MELLOW.

KNOW THAT THE INTEREST IS TO WORK WITH YOU.

WE'RE NOTE TRYING TO BE ANTI-COST.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A MORE SYSTEMIC APPROACH TO FIX WHAT IS BROKEN. , I WAS IMPRESSED WITH WHAT

YOU'RE DOING. >> ANDYOU WOULD BE ONE AND AND WE CAN HANDLE PHASE 1 OR 2. DEPENDS ON THE PROCESS AND I THINK THAT 3 MILLION-DOLLAR BUILDING, TO BE A 2 MILLION-DOLLAR BUILDING. MAYBE NOT.

WHAT YOU DO. MY NIECE TRANSPORTED AND LOVED IT. AND.

AND AND THE SHOTS THEY NEED. AND IRT SPAYING AND NEUTERING.

I FEEL THE TRAM CAN BE A GREAT PARTNER.

YOU KNOW HOW WE DO IT WORK IT. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SOLUTIONS.

YOU HAVE THE WE'LL ROLLING. WE HAVE TO LEARN IF YOU ARE WHAT DO WE NEAT. WWE HAVE TO HIRE MORE STAFF.

WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT. WHAT WILL WE DO.

I THINK WE NEED TO PUTT IN A PLAN AND THAT IS TO BE WHAT WILL WE DO. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

NUMBER 10 AND 15. YOU KNOW I THINK THAT'S IT IS GOOD THAT IT SHOULD BE NOW IN THE BUILDING AND SAID I'M NOT AGAINST IT BUT I -- AND ADD I MEAN I GO FOR THAT.

BUT THAT MONEY. WE HAVE TO FIND OUT THE

REVENUES TO WORK WITH. >> HERE IS A THOUGHT FOR YOU ALONG THE LINES, COMMISSIONER GONZALES.

AND A NUMBER OF YEARS BEFORE THIS CAN BE BUILT.

THERE IS A NEED. >> I THINK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU ARE READY TO GO NEXT MONTH OR JANUARY, TELL US WHAT YOU NEED. TELL ME OR TELL THE COMMISSIONERS' COURT WHAT DO YOU WANT TO US BRING TO THE TABLE. WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO; WE'RE GOING TO INVITE WHEN WE DO OUR MEETING INVITE THE CITY OF BISHOP. I CAN TELL YOU THEY HAVE AN IMMEDIATE NEED RIGHT THIS MINUTE.

THEY ARE ALWAYS ASKING FOR OUR ASSISTANCE.

YOU THINK WE'RE NOT UP AS THEY SAY MODERN TIMES YOU OUGHT TO SEE OUR NEIGHBORS. WE'RE ALL STRUGGLING.

I WILL TRY TO DO A GOOD JOB OF BRINGING IN THE JURISDICTIONS THAT I THINK COULD BE A PART OF THIS NEED AND THE DOLLARS THEY HAVE SPENDING RIGHT NOW COULD BE THEY'RE NOT HUGE BUT FUNNELED SO THAT YOU FEEL LIKE THEY GROW.

THE ONLY THING I WANT TO CAUTION IS THAT I DON'T HAVE A DATE WE WILL. WE WANTED TO GET FEET BACK.

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GET BACK. >> REAL QUICK.

>> IF THE COURT IS DETERMINED THEY NEED TO BUILD A BUILDING.

THAT'S OKAY. WHAT THEY'RE OFFER SOMETHING A SOLUTION POTENTIALLY TO EITHER NOT HAVE US NAILED BUILDING OR HAVE IT A MUCH MORE SCALED DOWN VERSION OF THE BUILDING OR, WHO KNOWS, RIGHT. I WAS TRYING TO SAY THAT I DON'T WANT TO MOVE INTO A BID OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR ALONG SHELTER PLAN SERS WHERE THEY MAY BRING US, YOU KNOW A PRICE OR SOMETHING PUT OUT FOR BID.

CAN WE JUST TALK TO THEM. IF ALL WE NEED TO DO AT THE END OF THE DAY IS BUILD A SCALED DOWN VERSION OF THE BUILDING WE DON'T WANT TO PUT IT IN THE LOCATION WE'RE IN BUT ALL THAT IS LIKE A CHECKPOINT. THEY'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'RE A GROWING. AND IT'S NOT, THAT'S A HOMERUN ESPECIALLY PEOPLE LIKE YOU KNOW HAVE A LOVE FOR ANIMALS.

WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THEM HOW WE DO IT.

HOW DO WE TAKE CARE OF THEM. YOU HAVE A LOVE.

AND THE FOUNDATION AND THE COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY I'M SAYING BEFORE WE COMMIT TO THE 3 MILLION-DOLLAR BUILDING AND A RECOMMIT OR, BEFORE WE GO FORWARD WITH THE BUILDING.

LET'S HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AND SEE IF MAYBE ALL WE NEED TO DO IS BUILD A SHELL VERSION.

THEY'LL DO EVERYTHING ELSE I THINK THAT IS WORTH.

IT'S ON THE PAUSE I DON'T WANT TO TIE OURSELVES TO A NUMBER ON THE BUILDING WITHOUT HAVING THE SERVICE LETTING THEM GIVE US, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME. THE WHOLE PRESENTATION HOW THE NUM NUMBERS WORK. IF THEY SAY THIS IS HOW IT WORKS. THIS IS WHAT IT IS.

LESS COSTLY FOR US TO HAVE TO TRY TO DO THIS.

AND THEY'RE PROFESSIONALS AT IT.

LET ME TELL YOU. THEY'RE THEY'RE GETTING THE ANIMALS ADOPTED OUT OF HERE AND PEOPLE THAT LOVE THEM.

DEBBIE SAID THE PEOPLE -- SOME PEOPLE UP NORTH THEY PREFER THE ONE LEGGED ONE-EYED DOG FROM TEXAS.

WE CAN'T DO THAT HERE WE'RE PUTTING THEM ON THE STREET OR NOT PUTTING THEM ON THE STREET IN A WAY NONE OF US LIKE.

BEFORE WE GO TO THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE.

>> WE CAN HELP WITH YOU THAT, TOO.

, WE CAN HELP YOU, WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

>> AND IF NO OFFENSE ADD IF THEY ARE WILLING TO HELP AND SPEND THE MONEY ON THE BUILDING HERE THAT WE CANNOT SPEND AND USE THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED; WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE IT IS LATE WE SAY THE SAME THINGS. THIS IS WHERE I STOP AND SAY WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING. IT COULD BE A YOU HAVE FIVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE PROACTIVE.

IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT TODAY BUT IT TAKES TIME FOR THE PREWORK TO CATCH UP WITH THE DOCKET.

LIKE RIDING A WAVE. YOU CAUGHT US WITH THE WAVE CRESTING. WE'RE NOT ON THE WAVE OR CRESTING. WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AND PADDLING OUT. THAT IS WHERE YOU CAUGHT US TO THE OUTSIDER WE'RE HONESTLY NOT FULFILLING THE PROGRAM.

WE ARE SO IN LOCK STEP. AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE DOLLARS IS WELCOME. I NEED TO TIME TO PLAY CATCH UP WITH THE STATUTORY OBLIGATIONS, WORKING WITH THE COUNTY WE

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NEVER SAY P 3S BECAUSE IT TRIGGERS ALL KINDS OF PROCUREMENT YOU DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF.

THERE CAN BE SOME SORT OF A MEMBER MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING A THE COMMISSIONERS UNDER THE LAW IS A COMPETITIVE PROCESS. WE WANT TO WORK WITH THEM AND THESE GUYS. I HAVE SOME NODSMENT DO YOU NOT WANT TO BE IN A P 3. ASK THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI'S LAWYER HERE. THAT TRIGGERS ALL KINDS OF THINGS UNLESS ARE YOU READY TO DO THAT.

RIGHT. >> I JUST AND, IT'S NOT AN INTERLOCAL THEY'RE NOT A JURISDICTION.

YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS THE -- THE LOVE, YOU GOT US. THERE IS THE WILL.

WE'RE ALREADY THERE. >> WE EVEN HAVE REAL COMMITMENT TO WORK WITH YOU. WE'LL MAKE SURE THIS HAPPENS, I

LET KYLE LEBLANC. >> DOES HE WANT TO SPEAK.

IS THAT PAUL? >> AND I LET KYLE KNOW THIS MORNING THAT HE SHOULD LISTEN IN.

THEY TOLD ME THEY HAVE. THEY ARE LISTENING.

THAT'S GRAT. >> THEY KNOW WHERE OUR HEAD IS, I THINK GOOD THINGS WILL HAPPEN FROM THIS MOMENT ON.

>> CAN I CRAFT THAT SAYS BEFORE WE GO OUT FOR ANY KIND OF CONSTRUCTION BIDS WE GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY.

>> WE'RE SO FAR FROM CONSTRUCTION, WE'RE NOT EVEN

LIKE 10% INTO THE DESIGN. >> THAT SHOULD BE EASY, I'M TRYING NOT TO WE HAD A MOTION BEFORE WE FINALIZE THE DESIGN

AND GO OUT FOR BIDS WE LET THEM. >> OF COURSE.

>> THAT IS MY MOTION. I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN IT.

WAY THE CAR BEFORE THE HORSE. YOU WANT TO DO IT AS A GESTURE OF GOOD WILL A GESTURE OF GOOD WILL YOU KNOW WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT WHAT YOU BRING TO THE TABLE.

>> SECOND THE MOTION. >> I WILL SAY I KNOW THE TWO LADIES I KNOW THEM TO BE TRUST WORTHY BUT JUST GREAT PEOPLE.

GREAT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WOULD ENJOY WORKING WITH. BUT I'LL TELL YOU BRING A MOTION AGAIN WITHOUT CHECKING THE FINANCIAL STATUS THE LEGAL STATUS OR THEIR OPPORTUNITY WHERE THEY ARE I'LL QUESTION THE COUNTY ATTORNEY NOT JUMP UP THIS IS WHERE ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO OBJECT. YOU DON'T GET MOTIONS TO DO THINGS WITHOUT MAKING SURE I KNOW THEM I'LL VOUCH WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME SENSIBILITIES HERE. YOU DON'T LET THEM WALK IN ADD STOP YOUR PROJECT WITHOUT DOING SOME SORT OF VETTING YOU NOW

WHAT I'M SAYING. >> THE FOUNDATION GIVES ME CREDIBILITY NOT AS WELL AS YOU.

I HAVE KNOWN THEM AND SAY THE SAME I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> SO I GUESS THE QUESTION NOW, LET'S EXCHANGE.

AN ACCIDENT LET'S EXCHANGE THE DRIVER'S LICENSE AND INFORMATION AND INSURANCE INSURANCE THAT WAY THE PROBLEM SNOWS THAT WE'RE DOING ALL THE RIGHT THINGS WE'LL WORK TOWARDS THAT. THE MOTION AS A GOOD FAITH BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS MEANT TO BE.

SAY AYE AND THE CLERK T IS AN OPPORTUNITY BEFORE CONSTRUCTION TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND BEFORE ANY CONSTRUCTION WILL BE ENTERTAINED WE WILL GO TO THE 501 C 3 GROUP. WHAT IS THE BEST ROUTE WE DON'T WALK OUT OF HERE. HOW DO WE.

TAKE THE LEAD ON THIS. I'M NOT GIVING YOU MORE WORK.

>> I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS.

I COULDN'T MIND BEING THE LIASION.

ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE THAT COULD BE HELPFUL TO THE MEETING

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IN ADVANCEKY GIVE TO THEM SEND IT.

INCLUDING I'LL BE HONEST. I'M JOKING BUT I'M NOT I HAVE THAT LAWYER HAT ON. A COPY OF THE 501 C 3 AND OF THE ORGANIZATIONAL PLAN. EVERYTHING THAT MAKES UP YOU THAT WE WANT TO WORK WITH IS GOING TO BE WELCOME.

YOU CANNOT GET TO AN AGREEMENT UNTIL ALL OF THAT IS SATISFIED NO MATTER HOW MUCH WE LIKE YOU.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT; WE'LL DO THE SAME.

I'LL GET YOU COPY OF THE FEES ABILITY STUDY AND WHAT SHELTER PLANNERS OF AMERICA HAS DONE FOR COURT PRESENTATIONS.

AND THEN WE'LL GET YOU THE CONTACT INFORMATION.

YOU DON'T NEED OUR PERMISSION CALL THEM.

PICK THEIR BRAIN. >> THANK YOU.

IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT. I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER A RECESS TO TOMORROW AT 1:00 IF YOU CHECK YOUR CALENDARS T IS NOT JUST THE LATE HOUR IT IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE STAFF HERE. WE CAN GO ALL NIGHT LONG BUT STAFF HAVE CHILDREN. THEY HAVE OBLIGATIONS THAT WERE NOT CONSIDERED. WE TEND THE LATEST WE HAVE GONE IS CLOSE TO 7:30. COMMISSIONER MAREZ HAS SOMETHING IN THE MORNING. 10:00.

HE HAD SOMETHING IN THE MORNING.

AND FOR DALE IF MICHAEL MIGHT CONSIDER DOING NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER 2 ON PURCHASING WE CAN GET THROUGH THAT AND THE CLERK CAN PREPARE THE CONTRACTS FOR ME IN THE MORNING.

AND THERE ARE AWARDING THAT I DON'T THINK WILL TAKE LONG WE CAN DO THAT. KY LET EVERYONE KNOW MELISSA YOU HAVE TO CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU CAN COVER.

CAN I DO ONE REAL QUICK. NUMBER 5 ON THE ORDER.

>> I DO THAT ONE, TOO. >> YOU WANT TO GO FIRST.

[25. Discuss and consider adopting an order to approve the authorization of online education for county commissioners pursuant to Section 81.0025(b), Local Government Code, as amended by the 87th Legislature.]

25 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADOPTING AN ORDER THE AUGRYISATION OF EDUCATION FOR COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS A NEW LAW PASSIONED. AND THAT NOW ALLOWS COMMISSIONERS TO DO ONLINE REGISTRATION EDUCATION OR GO IN PERSON BUT THE COURT HAS TO PASS THAT ORDER AND THERE SHOULD -- AND I WOULD MOVE THE PASSENGER.

IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO USE.

AND DOES NOT AFFECT THE FIRST YEAR COMMISSIONERS BUT EVERYONE

ELSE CAN BE ONLINE. >> THAT'S I'LL TAKE THAT AS A SECOND. AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OKAY AND THE TWO THAT I WAS

[1. Discuss and award RFP No. 3171-21 for Disaster Debris Removal Services.]

THINKING OF MICHAEL ONE WAS THE RFP FOR REMOVAL SERVICES AND AFTER A LENGTHY SELECTION COMMITTEE MEETING GOING THROUGH ALL THE APPLICANTS YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR US.

>> JUDGE WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND WE STAY WITH THE PROVIDER WHICH IS -- WHICH ONE.

C 1. >> C 1.

>> THE DISASTER REMOVAL SERVICES.

WE HAVE AND THAT WILL EXPIRE IN NO. AND GET IN FRONT OF THAT GOING FORWARD. , THESE INTEREST THE -- THESE ARE THE -- THESE ARE THE INTERESTS, THESE ARE, WE WILL NOT GET ANYTHING UNLESS THERE IS A DISASTER.

[09:35:03]

>> THAT'S THE MOTION. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

[2. Discuss and award RFQ No. 3175-21 for Certified Public Accountant to Assist with Administration of American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) Funds.]

SAY AYE; THEN MICHAEL THIS ONE IS AN AWARD.

IT IS FOR A CPA REGARDING THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE ARPA FUNDS RESCUE PLAN ACT BY THE AUTHOR.

WE DID THE PROCESS AND THE COMMITTEE YOU HAVE A

RECOMMENDATION. >> WE RECOMMEND AWARD TO COLLIER JOHNSON AND WOODS PC. THE FUNDING IS.

AND BRING IT WITH THE NEXT COURT.

>> SO MOVED. SAYS AYE.

>> OKAY. AND I WOULD ASK THAT IF THERE IS ANY OTHER ITEM I'LL YIELD TO MELISSA TO DALE TO TYNER ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD BE. 17.

>> I WONDERED IF KARA BUT SHE MAY RECOMMEND.

I JUST THINK THAT WAS, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE QUICK.

I MARKED IT WOULD TOMORROW. >> IS THERE OVERTIME TO

[26. Discuss and consider approval of overtime pursuant to County policy for essential exempt employees during declared disasters as it relates to COVID-19, and storm preparedness and response; severe weather preparedness and response; in addition, authorize payment of overtime to essential exempt City County Health District Employees.]

CONSIDER? >> , WE HAVE QUICK, YOU WERE PROVIDED A LIST YOU HAVE THE OVERTIME AND THE TWO WORK WITH THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND A COST OF 2264.25 REQUEST THAT FOR YOUR APREVIOUSLY, I'M APPROVE THAT.

I HAVE A SECOND. AND ALL THOSE SAY AYE.

, THAT WAS 26. AUTHORIZING THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE NEXT TWO WEEKS TO CONTINUE SO WE CAN TRACK THAT.

>> SO MOVED. I'LL SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> THAT TAKES CARE OF 26 AS WELL. SO WITH THAT.

I HAVE MARKED TYNER MAYBE WE CAN WORK ON IT TO MAKE SURE WE HIGHLIGHT WHICH ONES. WE'LL KNOCK IT OUT TOMORROW,

RIGHT. >> THEY'RE IMPORTANT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE COURT MANAGER JOB DESCRIPTION WORKED ON. , CAN WE DO THAT.

WE'LL PIVOT TO YOU. , AND THIS IS FOR YOU.

AND YOU GAVE ME THE PIECE OF PAPER.

I'LL BRING THAT IN THAT I HAD FORGOTTEN.

THE RECORD IS POST 7:30. WE STILL DISCUSSING THE RATE OF

[17. Discuss and consider the rate of pay for the November 2, 2021, Joint Constitutional Election workers.]

PAY SHE PROVIDED THAT FOR THE CONSTITUTIONAL ELECTION COMING UP. THIS IS ON THIS.

DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING. >> AND.

>> FROM HAGERTY AND IT IS REIMBURSABLE THE HAZARD PAY FOR

THE WORKERS. >> THAT'S MELISSA'S COMMENT.

PREMIUM PAY. >> HAZARD PAY.

IT DOES NOT MATTER IF IT IS REIMBURSABLE.

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>> OKAY. >> MOVE.

>> SECOND. AND DO YOU WANT ME TO YIELD TO YOU BEFORE I VOTE IS THAT GERMANE.

ALL THOSE IF FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE.

JUST FOR THE RECORD IT IS A WONDERFUL INSTEAD OF 9 IT IS 11. FOR ELECTION DAY IT IS THE SAME 11 AND SO NOW IT IS GOING TO BE 12 AND 14.

INSTEAD OF 9 AND 11 MOVING TO 12 AND 14.

ONE OF THE DAYS WE'LL MAKE IT MORE PERMANENT BECAUSE HAVING SAID THAT. IN FAVOR.

IN FAVOR SAY AYE. WE'RE DONE WITH THAT. IT IS A GREAT NOT TO DIMINISH TO PAY THE WORKERS WHAT THEY ARE WORTH. WE'LL GO TO MELISSA AND MOVE

QUICKLY JUDGE. >> TOMORROW WHO WILL BE

PRESIDING HAS TO BE PRESENT. >> I WILL BE HERE.

IT WAS COMMISSIONER MAREZ. >> THAT DEPENDS.

10 I NEED TO BE ON ZOOM. >> IF ANYONE ELSE IF THEY NEED TO BE ON ZAN TELL TYNER THAT THIS EVENING.

WE CAN ONLY HAVE TWO ON ZOOM. OKAY.

>> MICHAEL DID YOU. >> WHAT TIME ARE YOU STARTING.

10 A.M. WILL THAT WORK? >> WELL I'LL JUST BE -- I'LL DO A WALK THROUGH. NO WORRIES CONTINUE WITH THAT.

LET US WORK WITH. >> I ADDRESSED THE ITEMS. IF WE NEED YOU WE'RE GOING TO TEXT YOU, WE'LL DO THE.

>> AND WE'LL CALL YOU. STAY CLOSE WE'LL ASK YOU TO

COME IN. >> AND IF YOU ARE IN ZOOM YOU NEED TO SHOW YOUR VIDEO IF YOU ARE TALKING.

>> THE NEW RULES THAT YOU CANNOT GO ON A BLACK SCREEN.

TURN THE VIDEO ON. THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACTION EXCEPTION.

>> DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE HOW LONG TOMORROW WILL TAKE?

>> I'LL COME? >> SO, I WILL.

>> A COUPLE OF HOURS. >> I ACTUALLY COUNTED I COUNTED 11 ITEMS AND EXECUTIVE. WE'LL SEE.

WE HAVE QUITE A BIT TO GO THROUGH.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY PREAMBLE STUFF.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE NEVER LEFT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY OF THE CEREMONIAL OR MINISTERIAL ASPECTS.

I GOT OUT MY LITTLE BOOK THAT. THE RECESS IS AT 7:30.

WE'RE RECESSED UNTIL TOMORROW AT 10 A.M. WE'LL

>> GOOD MORNING TO EVERYBODY ONLINE. WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A FEEDBACK. MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS OKAY THERE.

REMEMBER, YOU CANNOT MAKE -- USE TWO DEVICES AT ONCE. SOMETIMES IT DOES THAT.

WE WILL HAVE A CONTINUATION. THE MORNING IS HERE AND IS 10:07 AM.

WE ARE CONTINUING OUR MEETING FROM YESTERDAY. OUT OF RECESS.

WE HAVE GOT, LET'S SEE HERE. I AM GOING TO TAKE A FEW THINGS A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER.

ONE THING I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU IS THAT WE HAVE GOT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT WE DON'T WANT TO FORGET ABOUT. THAT IS IMPORTANT. BUT WHY DON'T WE DO, BECAUSE IF HE IS NOT HERE, HE IS HERE IN THE BUILDING IN CASE WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BUT WE ARE HAVING

[09:45:03]

OPEN ENROLLMENT TODAY. ITEM NUMBER THREE WOULD BE IMPORTANT.>> JUDGE, I AM NOT

SURE WE HAVE A QUORUM. >> I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT COMMISSIONER MAREZ IS ONLINE.

>> THREE PHYSICAL HERE. >> OKAY. HANG ON.

HANG ON. SORRY GUYS. WE HAVE A QUORUM BUT WE DON'T HAVE A, EXACTLY A PHYSICAL FORM. GIVE US A SECOND.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY SO AS WE WERE SAYING, WE WILL BE KIND OF MOVING AROUND TO SEE HOW MUCH WE CAN DO. THE PERSON I WAS TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE QUICKLY AT 10:09 A , THANK YOU FOR THE RESET OF THE RECESS.

[3. Discuss and consider approval of Personal Services Contract with Tomas Duran for employee health Insurance benefits management and consulting for FY 2021-2022.]

IT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF THE PERSONAL SERVICE CONTRACT WITH TOMAS DURAN AND TO ILLUSTRATE HIS WORK HE IS IN THE BUILDING TODAY.

WE ARE DOING OPEN ENROLLMENT. FOR THOSE OF YOU LISTENING PLEASE DO NOT FORGET TO TOUCH BASE WITH, I BELIEVE THE AIR IN THE CENTRAL JURY ROOM TODAY. TOUCH BASE WITH THE CENTRAL JURY ROOM. IF YOU DON'T GET IT TODAY I THINK IT IS TOMORROW, AGAIN AND THEN SATURDAY, AGAIN. SO TOMAS DURAN IS IN THE BUILDING AND HE IS AVAILABLE IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I CAN TEXT HIM. BUT WE WANT HIM DOWN THERE BECAUSE THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE OPEN ENROLLMENT IS HAVE YOUR EXPERT IN THE ROOM.

SO I BELIEVE EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER FROM THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT. I WOULD LOOK FOR THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT.

>> SO MOVED. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> OF THE MOTION IN A SECOND AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE.

>> PLEASE DROP BY AND GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK ON THE OPEN ENROLLMENT.

WE MADE CHANGES AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK. TO SEE HOW IT GOES THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. OKAY. THE NEXT PLACE I WANT TO GO IS TO, WE KEPT THEM WAITING PRETTY MUCH ALL DAY YESTERDAY. SOME OF OUR FOLKS.

I WANT TO SEE THAT BLENDER, DISNEY JOHNSON FOLKS FROM THE LINE THIS MORNING.

GREAT. WE ARE GOING TO, I AM GOING TO DO SIX AND EIGHT.

[6. Receive update from Tim Richardson; discuss and consider approval of Second Supplemental Agreement with Tim Richardson for personal services related to Restore Act and other Federal Funding Sources.]

LET ME DO TIM RICHARDSON FIRST OF SEVERAL THAT. THAT WILL DO JOHNSON CONTROLS NEXT. AND SO TIM RICHARDSON, THE DISCUSSION HERE IS TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF THE SECOND SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH TIM RICHARDSON.

AND HE IS OUR EXPERT FOR OUR STORE ACT, FEDERAL FUNDING AND OF COURSE HE IS HELPING US WITH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE FOR SURE YOU HAVE HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AND COMMENT.

THAT WAS YESTERDAY, JAN ROBINSON AND THE OTHER GENTLEMAN'S NAME ESCAPES ME RIGHT NOW THAT CAME TO SPEAK ABOUT THE TURTLE PROGRAM AND THE SERIOUS ISSUE THAT IS HAPPENING WITH WHAT THEY CALL THE THE PRENEED REVIEW. I THINK IT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER. NORMALLY TIM IS FOCUSED ON FUNDING DIRECTLY WITH RESTORE AS WE HAVE ANOTHER BUCKET COMING. BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THIS NATIONAL PARK SERVICE HAS BECOME FRONT AND CENTER NOW AND IT THREATENS OUR ABILITY TO DRIVE ON THE BEACH.T THREATENS OUR ABILITY TO HAVE OUR TURTLE PROGRAM.

QUITE FRANKLY IT THREATENS OUR ECONOMY AND THE WAY THAT WE TREASURE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING.

I KNOW TIM HAS BEEN IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH COMMISSIONER CHESNEY AND I. I THINK HIS SERVICES HAVE ALREADY PAID DIVIDENDS. AS WE TRY TO SEEK STORE ACT, COMMISSIONER FUNDING MAINLY FOR COASTAL RESILIENCY. BUT FOR OTHERS.

WHO CARE ABOUT WETLANDS, YOU ALL HAVE WETLANDS IN YOUR PRECINCT! COMMISSIONER MAREZ HAS A GREAT WETLAND. THERE ARE WETLANDS NEAR.

>> THIS IS TIM. >> OH GOOD. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ'S PRECINCT AS WELL. TIM, WOULD LIKE TO GIVE AN UPDATE PLEASE?

[09:50:02]

>> YES. I AM SORRY I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BE IN LATER BUT I CAN

GO NOW. CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? >> ABSOLUTELY AND MY APOLOGIES FOR TAKING THINGS OUT OF ORDER. I KNEW YOU HAD SOMETHING TO DO TODAY AND THIS WAS A RECESS

FROM YESTERDAY. GO AHEAD. >> OKAY.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE. I GAVE UP, I HOPE YOU HAVE A ONE PAGER FROM ME WHICH IS A MIDYEAR REPORT ON ALL THE DIFFERENT FUNDS.

>> YES SIR. >> IS CALLED A BIG BLACK BOLD MIDYEAR FUNDS CHART.

>> WE HAVE THAT TIM. WE HAVE IT. >> VERY GOOD.

LET'S GO THROUGHTHIS . THE FASTEST FIVE MINUTES IN SPORTS APPROACH.

I THINK IT WILL GIVE YOU A PICTURE IN WHICH YOU CAN MAKE YOUR DECISIONS AND CHART YOUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. BUT ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE YOU WILL SEE, OF COURSE, THE YEARS WE ARE DEALING WITH STARTING IN 2013 WITH THE FIRST FUNDING REACHING TEXAS.

ALL THE WAY THROUGH 2031 WHICH IS THE END OF THE DEEPWATER HORIZON PAYMENT.

THAT IS THE BIG GAME CLOCK AND WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW. SO THE FIRST COLUMN ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE THAT IS READ. THE FIRST COLUMN ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE IS RUN BY THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT AND IS THE NATIONAL FISH AND WILDLIFE FOUNDATION OUT OF THE WASHINGTON D.C. THAT IS A CONGRESSIONALLY AUTHORIZED ENTITY AND THEY DECIDE WITH PARKS AND WILDLIFE HOW TO SPEND THE FUNDS. IT IS A VERY ENVIRONMENTAL ACCOUNT. IT IS ALL GONE. IT IS $203 MILLION.

AND BASICALLY BETWEEN LAND ACQUISITION AT 34 PERCENT AND JEFFERSON COUNTY AT 23 PERCENT, THERE WAS 43 PERCENT LEFT TO DIVIDE EVERYWHERE ELSE ON THE COAST.

THE PART ABOUT LAND ACQUISITION IS IT WAS URGENT AND THEY HAD TO DO DEALS RIGHT AWAY.

LAND, AS YOU KNOW IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN SIT ON IF THE OPPORTUNITY IS THERE.

SO THEY WENT AHEAD.OOD NEWS FOR YOU IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY IT AGAIN.

SO IT FREES UP PRESSURE ON THE LATER FUNDS. NOT IN THESE FUNDS BUT IN OTHER FUNDS.HE JEFFERSON COUNTY AND THE UPPER COAST, I THINK YOU PROBABLY KNOW IT BUT YOU HAVE GOT A LOUISIANA SOIL LOSS PROBLEM UP THERE. KIND OF A FIVE ALARM FIRE REALLY. YOU CANNOT WAIT TO PREPARE THE BEACH IN FRONT OF JEFFERSON COUNTY. AND OVER TO THE EAST IN ORANGE COUNTY THEY ARE DOING A $2 BILLION LEVY. SURROUNDING THE CITY OF ORANGE LIKE A CASTLE.

TO PROTECT THAT. THERE IS A LOT OF ACTION UP THERE AND I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU OPEN UP THERE SOMETIMEAND DID A , MEETING AND SAW SOME OF THEIR PROJECTS.

IN ENVIRONMENTAL CASES IT IS SMALL AND IS AT 200 MILLION WERE NOW IN JEFFERSON COUNTY.

THAT IS SMALL COMPARED TO WHAT THE COURT IS DOING. BILLION IN ORANGE, 900 MILLION FOR PORT ARTHUR. BIG THINGS ARE HAPPENING. ANOTHER GOOD POINT FOR YOU, THEY ARE GETTING DONE AND THEY WILL COME OFF THE BOARD OF COMPETING PROJECTS.SO YOU HAVE GOT $3.3 MILLION FOR NUECES COUNTY IN THE BACK SHORELINE PROTECTION.

THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS UP AND DOWN THE COAST.

EVERY BIRD INVESTMENT REALLY IS A WIN FOR YOU. SO THOSE ARE SOME GOOD THINGS THERE. I THINK REAL LONG-TERM, IT IS EARLY IN THE MEETING BUT STRETCH OUT 100 YEARS FROM NOW. THE LAND ACQUISITIONS IN THE BAY ABOVE YOU IS BASICALLY GOING TO CREATE A WILDERNESS THAT IS 800 SQUARE MILES OF WATER.

IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THEY ARE MOVING IN AND DOING LAND ACQUISITIONS.

SO EVERY AVERAGE TEXAN IS GETTING A GREAT PIECE OF THE GULF OF MEXICO.

FOREVER. OF COURSE, YOU HAVE THE KING RANCH AND KENNY RANCH TO THE SOUTH. WE HOPE THEY ARE THERE 100 YEARS FROM NOW AND OF THE GULF.

ON THREE SIDES OF THE YOU HAVE ESSENTIALLY WILDERNESS. BIG OPEN SPACES AND THAT IS

[09:55:02]

EXCITING. YOU ARE THE POINT OF THE SPEAR FOR THE PUBLIC, IN A SENSE, THAT THEY CAN COME TO YOU. I VIEWED THE FIRST ROUND AS BENEFICIAL FOR YOU IN THOSE WAYS EVEN THOUGH A LOT OF MONEY WAS SPENT ELSEWHERE. IN BUCKET ONE, THE NEXT COLUMN YOU SEE THE $90 MILLION THAT HAS BEEN SPENT AND ALLOCATED, RATHER IN 2017 AND YOU HAVE RECEIVED IT AT $7 MILLION AND YOU HAVE MATCHED THAT WITH $5 MILLION IN BOND FUNDS.

AND THE GENERAL LED OFFICES PUT $4 MILLION IN TWO WILL REMOVAL IN THE CORPUS CHRISTI BAY.

SO YOU KNOW FROM SCOTT. I ASKED SCOTT IF HE COULD BE ON TODAY TO BE AN EXPERT YOU KNOW THE FRUSTRATION THAT YOU HAVE HAD GETTING THOSE FUNDS BUT NOW THEY ARE MOVING IN AND PEOPLE ARE HAPPY. HYPERBOLIC WILL GET A NICE UPGRADE WITH FIVE FROM YOU AND 12 FROM THE BP. THE GL OH INVESTMENT $4 MILLION IN TWO CORPUS CHRISTI BAY.FOR ABANDONED WELLS. THAT IS GOOD. IN FACT ALL INVESTMENTS UP AND DOWN THE COAST HAVE BEEN GOOD AND ALL THE PEOPLE ARE GOOD PEOPLE.

THEY ARE ALL ABOVE AVERAGE. SO ALL THE STAFF OF ALL THE AGENCIES ARE REALLY SHARP AND PROFESSIONAL AND EVERY INVESTMENT HAS BEEN GOOD AND DEFENSIBLE.

I WOULD LIKE, HOWEVER, AT THE $4 MILLION THE GMO PUT INTO CORPUS CHRISTI FOR ABANDONED OIL WELLS BUT THAT IS A GOOD THING TO DO. BUT WHY DOESN'T THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY DO THAT? WHY DOESN'T SOMEBODY ELSE DO THAT? YOUR RESTORE BUCKET ONE DOLLARS USE THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND THAT IS YOUR MOST FLEXIBLE LOCAL BUDGET RELIEVING HELP FOR YOUR COUNTIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE WISE, PORT WISE AND THAT IS WHAT OPEN FOR YOU. BUT THE STATE GAVE THE STATE THE MONEY ON THAT ACCOUNT.

THAT IS WAY BACK IN 2017. YOU WERE NOT ORGANIZED AT THAT TIME.

AUSTIN IS LOOKING AT YOU, PRETTY MUCH, ALL OF THIS IS A PART-TIME JOB FOR THE AGENCIES YOU ARE DEALING WITH. THEY LOOK DOWN HERE, GL OH, PROXIMAL LEFT, TCS Q AND IF THEY SEE, NOT IN A UNIFIED MESSAGE THEY DON'T KNOW TO DO SO THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT TO.

I AM NOT SAYING THAT NEGATIVELY. THEY HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS.

THEY DID $4 MILLION IN THE GULF. THE NEXT ROUND OF THAT I WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE STATE AGENCIES GIVING MONEY TO STATE AGENCIES FROM BUCKET ONE.

THAT IS A POSITION FOR YOU TO CONSIDER MAYBE A RESOLUTION IN THE FUTURE.

OKAY BUT NOW LET'S LOOK AT THE FOUR BLUE ONES. BACK TO BACK TO BACK TO BACK.

AND AT 2022 IN THERE. AND THAT IS STILL STAYING IN BUCKET ONE UNDERNEATH THE $90 MILLION. THAT IS $100 MILLION. THAT IS 80 IN HAND, 22 COME BY APRIL. WITH THE NEXT BP CHECKS ARE SENT OUT.

THAT IS $100 MILLION THAT IS UNALLOCATED. I THINK THAT IS YOUR PRIME TARGET FOR SEEKING EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT AND YOU CAN HAVE TIME TO DEFINE THAT.

I THINK BY 30 DAYS I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE A LIST OF WHAT YOU WOULD DO FOR A MINIMUM OF 25 PERCENT OF THAT. I WOULD SAY MORE TO BE CATCH UP.

BUT YOU HAVE SOME WINDS COMING UP THAT WE WILL GET TO IN A MINUTE.

THERE IS $100 MILLION. IF YOU TAKE A MAGIC MARKER AND HIT THOSE FIVE YEARS, 2018 THROUGH 2022. THAT IS YOUR BEST OPPORTUNITY AND, THANKFULLY, IT IS THERE.

SO MOVING TO BUCKET TO WHICH IS THE RESTORE COUNCIL PC Q. THERE IS 79 MILLION DOWN IN AND THAT OCCURRED IN APRIL. I HAVE IT AS READ BECAUSE IS UNALLOCATED BUT IT IS IDENTIFIED INTO FOUR PROGRAMS. ONE OF WHICH IS TEXAS WATER QUALITY PROGRAM.

>> EXCUSE ME TIM IS NORDIC IN THAT ONE, >> NO.

NOR DO IS TWO LINES OVER. >>JUDGE CANALES: I SEE THAT. 13.

WE WERE ALLOCATED THE 22 FROM NERD. AND THEN WE ARE MEETING WITH

SAN FERNANDO. >> BOTH THE BUCKET TO AND NERD THE DISCUSSIONS ARE THE SAME DISCUSSIONS. LET'S JUST DO BUCKET TO WHICH HAS $20 MILLION IN WHICH

[10:00:10]

PETRONILA CREEK WHICH YOU SHARE WITH. >>JUDGE CANALES: CLAYBURGH.

>> WITH CLAYBROOK IS NUMBER ONE RANKED FOR INVESTMENT. BASED ON A REPORT DONE BY THE PARSONS GROUP WHICH IS A FAMOUS REPORT FILE TO GET INTO THE WEEDS.

PARSONS DID AN ANALYSIS OF EVERY INVESTMENT YOU CAN MAKE ON THE GOLF AND PETRONILA CREEK? NUMBER ONE AND THAT WILL APPLY FOR NERD ON THAT 22 MILLION.

SO LET'S TAKE THAT. THERE IS $42 MILLION THAT YOU ARE SITTING AT NUMBER ONE.

THERE WILL BE JUDGMENTS. I THINK YOU WANT TO, IF YOU ARE RANKING NUMBER ONE AND ARE NEEDING TO CATCH UP THEN THERE ARE PRETTY STRONG ARGUMENT TO AUSTIN AND VERY FOCUSED AND PROMISING. IN THE TIMELINE FOR BUCKET TWO IS MARCH.

THE TIMELINE FOR NRDA IS IN PUBLIC COMMENT IN FEBRUARY. FOLLOWED BY A DECISION IN JULY.

>> CAN I JUMP IN HERE JUST FOR A SECOND? >> YOU ARE BASICALLY 11 MONTHS FROM KNOWING THE FULL OUTCOME OF THAT. YOUR SEVEN OR EIGHT MONTHS MARCH UNTIL KNOWING HALF OF IT. >JUDGE CANALES: TIM, COMMISSIONER TESTING WAS ASKING

A QUESTION ABOUT THE MONEY. >>COMMISSIONER: IS ALSO A STATEMENT.

I THINK AND I WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THIS BINDER YOU ARE DOING THIS QUICKLY.HERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IS INVOLVED IN THIS ADDITION TO THE DONATION MONEY WHICH WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN INTO YET. LOOK FOR HIM TO FINISH THE FIVE MINUTES OF ASSES AND SPORTS BUT I LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING AT SOME POIN , NOT RIGHT AWAY, BUT JUST TO DEAL WITH ALL OF THIS BUCKET MONEY AND HOW IT WORKS.

SUPER. >>JUDGE CANALES: DECISIONS AND HOW TO APPLY FOR IT?

>> HOW MANY CAN BE BONDED AND WOULD TAKE THE PROJECTS AS THEY COME AND WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WRONG BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE SET DOWN ANDHAVE A REAL PLANNING SESSION WITH

THE ENTIRE COURT TO GO THROUGH . >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST THAT NRDA MONEY. IT'S LIKE ALMOST A SURE THING BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE SURE

THING GUARANTEED, RIGHT? >>COMMISSIONER: WE HAVE GOT TO BE DILIGENT ON THIS.

TIM HAS DONE A GREAT JOB AND I DON'T WANT TO CUT HIM OFF BECAUSE I WANT HIM TO FINISH THIS. I THINK IT'S A MEETING IN ITSELF.

WE TALK ABOUT THIS KIND OF MONEY IN THIS KIND OF POTENTIAL MONEY.

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A FOCUS CONCERTED EFFORT AND THE COURT HAS TO BE INFORMED.

THERE ARE LOTS OF DOLLARS HERE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY GO TOWARD VERY IMPORTANT PROJECTS THAT DON'T HAVE TO BE FUNDED BY THE GENERAL FUND POTENTIALLY. AND MAY NEVER GET DONE WITHOUT THIS MONEY AND I GET THAT. BUT STILL I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DO IN THE NEXT 30 OR 45 DAYS BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME MORE DEADLINES COMING UP ANDTHINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE HAPPENING . THIS IS VERY SIGNIFICANT AND HAVING TIM INVOLVED IN IT AT

THAT MEETING AND SCOTT HERE. ALL THE PLAYERS. >>JUDGE CANALES: AND COASTAL ESTUARIES BECAUSE THEY ARE SUPER INVOLVED. SHE AND I SIT ON THE TAKE, RIGHT? WE SHOULD PROBABLY TRY TO FIGURE OUT, TIM, IF WE COULD GET ONE MORE PERSON ON, IT'S NOT THE TAKE. LOOKING AT TAKEN THAT IS WHY SAW IT. WE DON'T SIT ON THE TAKE, TOBY BAKER DESPERATE THE BATH AND BAY STAKEHOLDERS GROUP.MAYBE WE NEED TO TRY TO GET ANOTHER MEMBER ON SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER SAY SO AT THE TABLE. IT'S NOT EVEN JUST THE DOLLARS WHICH IS WHO CONTROLS THE DOLLARS. RIGHT? WE KNOW THE DOLLARS ARE COMING TO PETRONILA CREEK BUT WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR OF THE BATH AND BAY STAKEHOLDERS EVEN HELPING US WITH, TIM. BUT WE STILL HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE FINAL IS HOW GOVERNMENT CAN BE THE BETTER ADMINISTRATOR IN SOME FORM OR FASHION RATHER THAN 100 PERCENT LAND OWNERS. BECAUSE WE CONTROLLED EASEMENTS.

>> RIGHT. I WOULD SUGGEST EXACTLY RIGHT. I SEE THAT COLONEL VALE WILL BE

DOWN OCTOBER 20.I WOULD SAY I SHOULD COME DOWN BEFORE THAT. >> THAT IS FINE WITH ME.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE ARE GOING TO LOOK. >> GIVE OURSELVES AN AFTERNOON

FOR A SESSION ALL DAY. IT'S UP TO YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: BELINDA IS NOTING THAT SHE WILL CHECK WITH EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULES APPEAR PUT THIS BEAUTIFUL CHART TO

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KEEP UPDATED FOR US SO WELL IS TO BASICALLY SHOWCASE HOW MUCH MONEY THERE IS, WHAT YEARS THEY WILL BE PROVIDING THE DOLLARS AND THE FACT THAT WE REALLY HAVE NOT GOTTEN OUR FAIR SHARE.

NOT TO OVER SIGNIFY IT BUT IS THAT WHAT THIS CHART IS ALL ABOUT?ALL THE UNALLOCATED DOLLARS? AND THE BLACK NUMBERS REPS IN FUTURE DOLLARS.

>> YES. YOU IN JEFFERSON COUNTY ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEEN THIS

CHART. >> NOW ALL OF OUR FRIENDS ONLINE HAVE.

TAKE IT OFF CONNIE. TAKE IT OFF.

[LAUGHTER] >> I RECALL IN ALASKA OF THE EXXON VALDEZ THIS WAS KNOWN ALL THE TIME EVERY POSSIBLE STAKEHOLDER WOULD HAVE THIS INFORMATION AND THEY WERE ALL CLAMORING FOR THE MONEY EVERY MONTH IN THE BEGINNING. BUT IT IS QUITE IN TEXAS AND THERE IS NO BIG BOARD LIKE THIS. IT IS QUIET.SO YOU MAY NEED TO SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR. BUT YOU ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO REALLY WELL IN THE CARDS THAT ARE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW ON $42 MILLION. BUT YES THE FUTURE IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE PLANNING FOR AND LIMITING AS MUCH OF THE $42 --42 MILLION AS POSSIBLE.

>> WE NEED YOU TO HELP ANALYZE THIS AND ADVISE US ON STRATEGIC WAYS TO DO THIS BETTER SO THAT IF YOU HAVE GOT RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THIS COURT NEEDS TO PASS RESOLUTIONS OF SUPPORT, BE IN D.C. OR HOW WE NEED TO COLLABORATE BETTER OR SCREEN BETTER.

THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO COUNT ON YOU FOR. IT IS TO TELL US, NO, LIKE ANY GOOD LAWYER GIVE SOMEONE ADVICE AND IF THE CLIENT DOESN'T TAKE IT AND IT'S UP TO THE CLIENT.

IF YOU HAVE GOT SOME STRATEGIES THAT YOU MIGHT BE GOING TO THOSE ARE NOW OR GOING TO BECAUSE THAT IS SOME OF THE STUFF I WANT TO ASK. TELL ME SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD SUGGEST AND TELL ME WHAT DO YOU HAVE BEEN DOING TO HELP US IMPROVE OUR POSITION.

BECAUSE THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT YOUR CONTRACT.

THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT YOU UNDERSTAND GREATLY THE INTRICACIES OF THIS PERIOD OF WORK WITH YOU SINCE I WAS ON THE CITY COUNCIL AND I KNOW YOUR SKILL SET.

BUT ALSO FOR THE COURSE OF EDUCATION, AS WE VOTE ON YOUR CONTRACT, IF YOU WILL TELL US NOT ONLY WHAT IS GOING ON BUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO HELP US GET THERE.

THAT WOULD BE VERY ADVANTAGEOUS AND THEN WE WILL FOLLOW UP WITH THAT WITH A MEETING.

LATER WITH EVERYBODY. >>JUDGE CANALES: I HAVE A HAND UP.

SCOTT CROSS. >> ANOTHER THING THAT TIM WILL BE STRATEGIC ON FOR US AT A LATER DATE IS WE GO THROUGH ALL THIS WORK WITH THE COURT AND SET THE PLAN AND GARAGE PROJECT NEEDS AND AT SOME POINT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LEAN ON TIM AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL TO HELP GO KNOCK ON DOORS AND GET THE CORE OF THE FUNDING THAT THEY NEED FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET TO HELP US WITH THESE DRUGS AND BEACH NURSING PROJECT. I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT.

>> IF WE ARE DOING IT IN JEFFERSON COUNTY, SCOTT, IT IS APPROPRIATE AND IS GREAT YOU HAVE COLONEL VALE COMING DOWN. BASICALLY IN NOVEMBER YET THE TEXAS NEXIUM CONFERENCE ON ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENT COMING TO CORPUS CHRISTI AND THE JUDGE WILL OPEN THE CONFERENCE LIKE NOVEMBER 10 OR MAYBE THE 12TH AND 13TH. IT IS A FRIDAY.

ANYWAYS I WILL GET THAT TO YOU. I THINK AT THAT POINT IF WE WERE TO MEET IN OCTOBER HE WOULD BASICALLY, THE JUDGE COULD LAY OUT THE BASIC PRINCIPLES OF WORK YOU SEE THE WHOLE COASTAL RESTORATION GOING FORWARD INCLUDING COASTAL RESILIENCY FOR COMMUNITIES.

THAT IS WHEN INTO THE LAW. IT IS NOT JUST, ALASKA WAS ALL ENVIRONMENTAL.

THE RESTORE ACT IS NOT. IT'S COASTAL RESILIENCY WHICH INCLUDES INFRASTRUCTURES, AND PRIMARILY DRAINAGE IS PROMINENT. AS YOU KNOW WITH FLOODING.AND SEWER AND SEPTIC. WE GET THIS MUCH WATER YOU HAVE UNTREATED SEWAGE ON THE GROUND SURFACE WERE KIDS ARE PLAYING AFTER AT THE SCHOOLS THAT WE DID THE FILM ON.

YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE THAT. BUT WATER IN GENERAL HAS NOT BEEN A PRIORITY IN TEXAS EXCEPT KEEPING SALTWATER OUT. IN FLORIDA, ALABAMA AND MISSISSIPPI EVERYONE IS CONCENTRATING ON PUTTING BETTER FRESHWATER INTO THE GULF.

RESTORE THE GOLF AND WATER IS THE MOST NEEDED RESOURCE AND APPROVE YOUR FRESHWATER

INFLOWS.>>JUDGE CANALES: TIM, THIS IS A TANGENTIAL REQUEST OF MINE BUT SINCE WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE WORKSHOP. ONCE UPON A TIME WHEN WE HAD A NATIONAL PARK SERVICE GRANT AND WE WENT TO GO CHECK ON THE STATUS OF IT. IT WAS LIKE THREE YEARS AGO.

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YOU SET UP ALL THOSE MEETINGS FOR US. THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR.

AND THEN I ALSO WENT OVER TO PARKS AS WELL. IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT TO SET UP MEETINGS QUICKLY BUT THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE CONCERN IS REALLY COMING TO A VERY HIGH LEVEL DOWN HERE. IT IS MAKING A LOT OF NEWS AND THERE IS A LOT OF CONCERN.

ALL THAT I REALLY WANT TO DO IS SET UP A MEETING SO THAT I CAN GO EXPRESS THE POSITION OF THE NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT AS WE HAVE HAD A RESOLUTION.

THAT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT BEFORE THE WORKSHOP AND BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE WORKSHOP IF YOU CAN FIGURE THAT OUT. WE MIGHT EVEN BE ABLE TO HAVE AT LEAST, INFORM THE COURT AS TO THE STRATEGY SO THAT WE CAN GO UP THERE AND HAVE THOSE MEETINGS.

>> OKAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: I FEEL LIKE THAT ONE NEEDS PERSONAL ATTENTION. WE NEED TO SET UP AND FIGURE OUT WHO IS, WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THE REPORT. BECAUSE THE CONCEPT IS AS A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR THAT WILL BE ADVISING. SINCE WHEN DID THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DECIDE THAT A CONTRACTOR WOULD GET TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT OUR OPEN BEACHES? THAT IS JUST INSANE. WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE, WE JUST NEED TO ARTICULATE OUR HISTORY A LITTLE BIT BETTER. AND I THINK THAT REQUIRES A

VERY GOOD CONVERSATION WITH THEM. >> WELL GOOD.

YEAH. AND CAN DO. I PERSONALLY HAVE A FRIEND OF MINE KAREN TREVINO WHO YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD OF HER IN THE DIALOGUE.

THE SHAVER OR THE PARKS THERE. SHE IS THE ATTORNEY FOR THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE AND SHE HAPPENS TO BE A FRIEND FOR 25 OR 30 YEARS. I HAVE REACHED OUT TO HER AND THEY ARE DEALING WITH TRAGIC LOSS OVER THE WEEKEND OF TWO FRIENDS AND A LEG.

NEAR YELLOWSTONE. BUT I EXPECT TO BE HEARING FROM HER.

YES, WE CAN DO AND ELEVATE THAT TO WASHINGTON IF YOU WANT TO. >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

AND WE MIGHT EVEN WANT TO BRING, I DON'T KNOW COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HAS A LOT OF CONCERNED CITIZENS. WE COULD NARROW IT DOWN TO MAYBE ONE OTHER, MAYBE LIKE A VOLUNTEER LIKE MS. ROBINSON OR SOMEONE WHO WOULD ACTUALLY SPEAK OF THE PROGRAM FROM A I AM PERSONALLY INVOLVED IN THIS IS WHAT I CAN PERSONALLY ATTEST TO.

>> HOWEVER, AGAIN, THAT IS WHAT I AM RELYING ON TIM. HE IS WHO WE HIRED TO BE

STRATEGIC. I AM GOING TO FOLLOW HIS LEAD. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHATEVER YOU THINK TIM. THREE IF YOU THINK THIS IS THE STRATEGY AND YOU KNOW THE LEGISLATORS AND HOW THEY WORK AND THEIR STAFFS BETTER. THAT'S WHAT WE PAY YOU TO DO

IT. IF YOU GOT SOMETHING. >> I THINK I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT IS A TOP PRIORITY. YOU CANNOT HAVE KERNELS, KERNELS ARE SO ICONIC AND YOU CANNOT JEOPARDIZE THE GREAT RECORD YOU HAVE GOT. SO THAT IS KIND OF LIKE PLAYING

RUSSIAN ROULETTE WITH FIVE ROUNDS IN THE GUN. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU HAVE A FINAL SLIDE. I CHEATED AND LOOK AHEAD. CAN WE GO TO THAT SLIDE AND YOU CAN TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS LAST SLIDE HERE? THIS IS OUR SUMMARY.

>>TIM: THREE, IF I CAN GO TO THE OTHER ONE WILL QUICKLY FINISH IT UP.

BUCKET THREE, BECAUSE OF HARVEY, BUCKET THREE GOT DEVIATED FROM WHAT IT WAS INTENDED TO AND NOW IT IS UNDER THE COMMISSION LED BY CHANCELLOR SHARP AND I KNOW YOU HAVE MET WITH HIM JUDGE.HAT WAS KIND OF NONTRANSPARENT BUT IT IS GOING FOR COASTAL RESTORATION AND THAT IS IT. I THINK YOU COULD LOOK FOR A LOT OF THINGS IN THERE THAT SCOTT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT LAST NIGHT AND INSTITUTE AND STUFF.

BUCKET THREE IS DOABLE BUT IT IT IS OUT OF OUR AREA RIGHT NOW IF I TELL YOU THE TRUTH.GO MESA IS A LONG-TERM PAYOUT FOR TEXAS. IF TO THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AND WHAT WE ARE DOING UP THERE AND WE CAN KEEP THE PROGRAM GOING WHICH RELIES UPON LEASING AND DRILLING WHICH THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAS DECLARED THEY ARE GOING TO END.

WE PASSED A RESOLUTION, COMMISSIONERS ON YOUR BEHALF IN THE JUDGE IN THE ENTIRE GOLF CAUCUS OF THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES THAT THEY ARE NOW COCHAIRS OF WITH JUDGE CANALES AND JUDGE CAUCUS ARE THE CULTURE. TO THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE OPPOSING THE CESSATION OF OFFSHORE DRILLING AND LEASING. THE ARGUMENT IS THAT IT IS NOT

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HELPFUL TO THE ENVIRONMENT TO DEPRIVE THE UNITED STATES OF THAT FUNDING AND THEN REPLACE IT BY IMPORTS FROM PLACES THAT HAVE WORST ENVIRONMENTAL RECORDS.

SO IT'S IN NEGATIVE TO THE CLIMATE BATTLE. YOU KNOW HOW EMOTION RUNS STRONG ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW AND YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. YOU ARE MAKING AN IMPACT ON KEEPING IT ALIVE AND THAT IS IMPORTANT. LET'S SAY WE WENT.

GO MESA IS FLEXIBLE IN THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR YOU I BELIEVE IS THE ABILITY TO USE THOSE FUNDS ON DRAINAGE. YOUR BRAIN PATTERNS HAVE CHANGED.

ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE YOU ARE IN A DIFFERENT RAIN REGIME THEN YOU WERE 30 YEARS AGO. SO YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS INADEQUATE TO HANDLE A COASTAL RESILIENCY ISSUE OF TROPICAL STORMS AND RAIN. YOU QUALIFY FOR ALL THE GOMESA FUNDS BUT NOBODY HAS REALLY DISCUSSED IT BEFORE. I DID SEE THE OSCAR MARTINEZ IS ON THE Q. WHEN OSCAR WAS THE CITY MANAGER OF CORPUS CHRISTI THIS IS WHERE THEY WERE GOING.

WHEN HE RETIRED IT STOPPED. SO A SHOUT OUT THERE. GOMESA, FIRST WE HAVE TO KEEP IT AND WILL RUN FOR FIVE YEARS NO MATTER WHAT THE PRESIDENT DOES.

>>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT. >> YOU HAVE BIG BALLS UP THERE. >JUDGE CANALES: SCOTT CROSS

WANT TO ADD SOMETHING. SCOTT, GO AHEAD. >> I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT SOMETHING. ON THE BUCKET THREE WE DID GET AN AWARD OF $250,000.

THAT CAME AS A RESULT OF THE JOHNNY SHOCK REPORT AND MOST OF ALL THE COUNTIES THAT WERE IMPACTED, BY HURRICANE HARVEY, IN HIS REPORT THEY USED A BUNCH OF THAT BUCKET THREE MONIES TO ADDRESS THOSE IMPACTED COMMUNITIES. SAN PAT, RASHNESS, ON AND ON UP AND DOWN THE TEXAS COAST. IT WAS ONE SHERRY LAM WHO WE INTEND KNOW VERY WELL AND WE GO WAY BACK. SHE EMAILED MAGGIE AND MAGGIE SENT ME A LIST OF AN EMAIL FROM HER WHERE SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT PROJECTS. SOME HELP OR A HANDGUN ON THE SHARP -- JOHNNY SHARP AWARD BUT NOT OF NUECES COUNTY HELEN ON THE REPORT.

I WAS SHOCKED. ACTUALLY GOT UP WITH SHERRY AND I SPOKE WITH MR. SHARP AND WAS ABLE TO GET $250,000 TO HELP COVER THE TENT PORTION. WE WERE ABLE TO RECOVER THE RV PORTION OF THE TENT CAMPING PORTION. $200,000 WILL NOT GO A LONG WAY BUT IF WE PIGGYBACK ON THE $7.5 MILLION IN BUCKET ONE THE MAYBE WE CAN GET A LITTLE BIT MORE, MORE BANG FOR OUR BARGAIN. THE OTHER THING IS WHEN YOU START TO TALK ABOUT GOMESA, THE STATE GOMESA IS WHAT FUNDED THE $4 MILLION WE GOT. WE'VE ALREADY FOUND THEIR WAY INTO THE STATES POT. THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY MANAGING AN OFFER THAT IS A BIG

SUCCESS FOR US AND I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. >>TIM: THAT WAS A GREAT JOB.

ON THAT SCOTT. BEING READY PLUS WHAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT HAVING WORKED AS LONG AS I HAVE. I HAVE GONE TO KNOW SCOTT WHICH OF COURSE YOU CAN MEET SOMEBODY IN A DAY. BUT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO TALK ABOUT PEOPLE THAT HE KNOWS OF PEOPLE I KNOW AND MASH TOGETHER. A PICTURE THAT LETS YOU OPERATE BETTER.UST LIKE YOU JUST POINTED OUT. SO THAT IS THE FASTEST FIVE MINUTES IN SPORTS APPROACH. BOTTOM LINE IS YOU HAVE $1 BILLION TO GO.

IN TEXAS BUT BILLION ONE OR SO. WE HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBLE FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE BILL. BECAUSE WE VOTED ON AND IT REQUIRES A VOTE BY MONDAY AND THE DEMOCRATIC MODERATES. AND 40 PERCENT OF THAT WILL GO TO PEOPLE OF LOWER INCOME.

THERE'S NO WAY IN THE WORLD BETWEEN MIXING AND MATCHING THESE FUNDS AND THAT BILL THAT WE CAN'T, YOU CAN'T SET YOURSELF UP FOR THE NEXT 100 YEARS ON EVERY BIT OF YOUR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE. SO WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS ON THAT.

JUDGE, WE GO TO THE LAST PAGE THERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: SOUNDS GOOD

TIM. >>TIM: FIRST COLUMN WAS, IT HAS GONE $23 MILLION.

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YOU WOULD IN PART BECAUSE OF THE PROJECTS ARE TAKEN OFF THE BOARD.

YOU HAVE. COLUMN TWO, RESTORE BUCKET ONE AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

BY THE WAY THIS IS AN IMPORTANT FOOTNOTE.SENATOR KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON WAS A SPONSOR OF THE BILL. SHE SAID OR SHE WROTE THE TEXAS PORTION.

SHE SAID THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS WILL RUN ALL THE BUCKET ONE. AND SHE WAS GOING TO RUN, DID RUN FOR GOVERNOR HERSELF AND LOST. SO GOVERNOR PERRY INHERITED THAT. AND THEY DO NOT DO ANYTHING WITH IT.

GOVERNOR ABBOTT, HE DID APPOINT TO BE BAKER, BY THE WAY. THAT WAS IMPORTANT.

IT TOOK A WHILE. SO GOVERNOR ABBOTT REALLY HAS THE AUTHORITY ON BUCKET ONE AND THAT IS A LITTLE FOOTNOTE THERE. IN OTHER STATES IN FLORIDA THEY GIVE THE MONEY DIRECTLY TO COUNTIES. THAT IS WHY I SAY THIS PERIOD OF BUCKET ONE IS LOCAL. THAT IS WHAT IS TRUE IN FLORIDA, ALABAMA.

THEY HAVE MAYORS AND A PORT COMMISSIONER ON BUCKET ONE ALONG WITH THE GOVERNOR.

THE GOVERNOR IS ONLY ONE VOTE OUT OF EIGHT IN ALABAMA AND MOBILE.

IN MISSISSIPPI YOU HAVE A MORE DIVERSE GROUP AND NOT JUST THE GOVERNOR.

YOU ARE UNIQUE IN THAT. I DON'T TALK ABOUT LOUISIANA BECAUSE THEY GOT THE MOST MONEY BUT THEY ARE ONLY DOING TWO THINGS WITH IT EVERY DAY. THAT IS BUILDING BARRIER ISLANDS AND DEPARTMENT --DIVERTING THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER FOR $50 BILLION AND HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO. BUT JUST TAKE LOUISIANA OUT OF YOUR THINKING ABOUT THE GULF AND THEY ARE ON THEIR OWN PATH WITH HER OWN MASTER PLAN. THE OTHER FOUR STATES ARE THE ONES TO WATCH AND YOU NOW, TEXAS SHOULD MOVE INTO WHAT IS HAPPENING IN FLORIDA PRIMARILY.

YOUR CLEANING THE WATER FROM THE LAND OUT. THAT IS WHERE YOUR BUDGET RELATING TO INVESTMENTS IN INFRASTRUCTURE. I THINK WE KIND OF GOT THAT.

THERE'S MORE TO GO THERE AND BUCKET ONE IS REALLY IMPORTANT. BUCKET TWO WE DISCUSSED.

EVERY THREE YEARS THEY WILL DO ANOTHER ROUND. THEY LET THE FUNDING BUILD UP.

IT IS A COMPETITIVE PROCESS AND BASED ON RESOURCES. THIS IS A VERY GREEN FUND.

I AM SORRY, LEAVING LOUISIANA ASIDE, ALABAMA AND MISSISSIPPI DON'T HAVE THE SPACE OR THE HABITAT YOU HAVE IN FLORIDA HAS. DURING THE NCAA BASKETBALL AND TEXAS AND FLORIDA ARE GOING TO BE IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP FOR THOSE FUNDS.

TYPICALLY, COMMISSIONER BAKER IS THE TRUSTEE OR DIRECTOR BAKER NOW.

THEY BASICALLY DO A GOOD SHARING THERE.I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT BUCKET SHE WILL COME IN AND IT IS GREEN AND THE WATER IS GREEN. CAN WE TALK ABOUT BUCKET THREE? THAT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS. AND CERTAINLY YOUR SHORELINE AREA THERE.

I THINK IT IS WORTH, SCOTT TALKING ABOUT THE NEEDS YOU HAVE YOUR SEDIMENT TRANSPOSITION AND ETC. THAT WAS OUTLINED LAST NIGHT. THEN NRDA WITH 130 MORE TO GO.

THEY ARE DONE WITH WATER. THIS 22 MILLION IS THERE NONPOINT SOURCE WATER POLLUTION INVESTMENT. THERE ARE OTHER THINGS BUT THAT IS 22 AND NOT 20 AND GOMESA, WE DISCUSSED THAT WITH A, NUMBER ONE, KEEP IT INTACT. NUMBER TWO, TREAT IT LIKE BUCKET ONE. MIX AND MATCH. YOU CAN CONSIDER THE MONEY YOU WILL HAVE, THE $34 MILLION, NEXT YEAR FROM BARBARA IS ALREADY IN THERE.

GIVE WATER GOALS AND BUCKET ONE AND EVERYBODY LEVERAGES EACH OTHER AND THAT IS A GOOD SUCCESS OPPORTUNITY. SO BASICALLY JUDGE THAT IS THE FULL PICTURE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU FOR GIVING US, THANKS FOR GIVING US THE COMPREHENSIVE AND IS A PERFECT DISCUSSION. YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SEEN THOSE BUT WE HAD A HUGE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FUTURE OF BOB HALL PEER WITH JACOBS ENGINEERINGAND SCOTT CROSS ALSO LED US INTO THE DISCUSSION OF THE SHORELINE . THE EROSION REPORT THAT THE INSTITUTE REDUCED THROUGH DIGITAL WILLIAMS. WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A

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DISCUSSION ABOUT OUR SEDIMENT MANAGEMENT PLANS IN OUR FUTURE CAPITAL AXIS ABILITIES WITH THE CORE. ALL OF THIS ADDS UP TO TONS OF MONEY TO CHASE AND THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE GOAL OF THE COURT. TO BE AGGRESSIVE, TO BE STRATEGIC AND TO BRING IT HOME. I REALLY BELIEVE WE HAVE PLACED OURSELVES AS BEST AS WE CAN.

AGAIN, I MEAN, THANKS TO GUIDANCE RIGHT. NONE OF THIS HAPPENS BY ACCIDENT. IT HAPPENS BECAUSE YOU LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO KNOW HOW TO GET IT DONE AND WE ARE GRATEFUL TO JUDGE BRENNAN, AS THEY SAY, NOT COVETING YOU ALL TO HIMSELF THERE IN JEFFERSON COUNTY. AND ALLOWING YOU TO KIND OF COME DOWN HERE AND HELP NUECES COUNTY BECAUSE IT HELPS THE WHOLE GULF COAST. LOOK, TIM, WE HAVE TO MOVE ON

BUT JUST KNOW THAT THE WORKSHOP. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR TIM.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OF COURSE. JUST KNOW THAT THE WORKSHOP WILL GET PLAN BUT WE HAVE TO

GET EVERYBODY SCHEDULEE HAVE A QUESTION COMING IN. >> TIM, MR. RICHARDSON , CAN YOU BREAK DOWN WHAT WE HAVE GONE FROMBUCKET ONE , BUCKET TWO IF ANY.

CAN YOU BREAK DOWN WHAT WE HAVE RECEIVED SO FAR IN BOTH BUCKET .

>>TIM: YES. YOU HAVE RECEIVED $7.5 MILLION IN BUCKET 14 PADRE POLLY.

INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT THE COUNTY MATCHED WITH A $5 MILLION BOND.

ALSO, THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE IS RECEIVING $4 MILLION FOR CAPPING ABANDONED WELLS IN

CORPUS CHRISTI BAY. THAT IS THE BUCKET ONE. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT IS NUECES

COUNTY. >> I AM TALKING ABOUT TREAD WATER WHEN IT COMES DIRECTLY TO

NUECES COUNTY. >> PADRE POLLY $7 MILLION. >> THAT INCLUDES WIKI, TOO.! IT INCLUDES MARTY MCGEE, PADRE FOR SOME HALF-MILLION IN BUCKET ONE AND THAT WAS IN 2018 10 OR

2018? >>TIM: 2017. >>JUDGE CANALES: 2017, OKAY.

>> FROM 2017 WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING? >>TIM: YEAH.

THEY HAVE NOT DONE ANOTHER ROUND OF BUCKET ONE. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE ARE JUST NOW GETTING TO THAT. YOU CAN SEE YOUR BLUES IN THE YEAR.

>> THE OTHER THING IS, ON THE ONE POINT 5 MILLION PEOPLE CAN HEAR ME SCOTT?

! SCOTT CROSS. >> I CAN HEAR YOU COMMISSIONER.

I CAN EXPLAIN THAT. SOME HALF-MILLION AND WE HAVE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH TES Q FOR SOME TIME NOW. WE ARE IN THE TOURISM PART OF BUCKET ONE.OURISM AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THERE ARE DIFFERENT SECTIONS IN BUCKET ONE.

HABITAT RESTORATION. WATER QUALITY. DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE ARE IN THE TOURISM BUCKET. WHEN THEY FINALLY GOT TO THE TOURISM BUCKET WE HAVE GONE BACK ANDFORTH ON CONTRACT DOCUMENTS. WHEN YOU ON DOWN TO THE FINAL ELEMENT , REVAMPING THE BUDGET FOR THAT 7.5 MILLION. REMEMBER, WHEN I WROTE THIS THING , I DID IT IN ANYTHING 2015 OR 2016. IT IS ADOPTED AS A STATE PLAN AND APPROVED BY TREASURY IN 2017. IT HAS LITERALLY TAKEN THAT LONG FOR US TO GO THROUGH ALL THESE CONTRACT DOCUMENTS AND GET A CONTRACT AND BRING IT BACK TO Y'ALL AND GET IT TO LEGAL SO WE CAN LOOK ATIT . AND THE AUDITORS AS WELL AND EXECUTE SOMETHING. SO WE ARE GETTING CLOSE BUT ALWAYS KNEW THIS IS LIKE A MARATHON. IT'S NOT A SPRINT PREDICTED THAT HELP TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS ARE?>COMMISSIONER: YES BUT I AM SAYING THE 7.5 WILL NOT SET ASIDE, CAN WE

STILL USE THAT FOR THE MAGEE? >> WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY SEEN THAT MONEY YET.

IT IS THERE AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM. WE ARE TRYING TO GET IT.

WE'VE HAD THE MONEY FOR THREE YEARS, SCOTT, WHEN HE GOT AWARDED.

>>JUDGE CANALES: LONGER. >>COMMISSIONER: I GUESS THE QUESTION FOR TIM IS HOW DO WE

GET THE MONEY? WHAT WE DO TO GET THAT MONEY? >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS TC Q, TOBY BAKER AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN TALK TO READ ABOUT, MAYBE. HE IS SUPER

KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ASPECT OF IT. >> YOU HAVE AN UPDATE WITH U.S.

TREASURY HAS APPROVED IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: SCOTT. >> WHAT YOU SAY TIM?

>>TIM: YOU HAVE AN UPDATE FROM TC Q THAT THE TREASURY HAS APPROVED THAT GRANT?

>>SCOTT: YES. THEY HAVE APPROVED IT. I WILL GIVE YOU THE TRANSFER

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DOCUMENTS FROM TC Q. THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT IT TO THE TREASURER IN THE TWO WAY TO GET THE NOTICE TO PROCEED FROM TREASURY. ONCE I GET THE CONTRACT DOCUMENTS THEN I WILL BE ABLE TO ADVISE THE COURT ON WHAT WE HAVE.

RFP, OR OF Q, WHAT TYPE OF HER KISSING THINGS WE HAVE TO FOLLOW.

RIGHT NOW ALL AND IT WAS IN A TALK WITH TES Q. WE CAN RSVP FOR ADMIN BUT ARE IS Q4 ENGINEERING. I FOUND THAT OUT JUST SO THAT MICHAEL ROBINSON'S CAN GET THAT. AND HE IS WORKING ON IT. TO BUDGET MONEY OUT OF THE 7.54 GRANT ADMIN. ALL MY PARTNERS IN THE OTHER STATES OF TALK TO HAVE SAID THAT THE REPORTING THAT YOU HAVE TO DO WHETHER YOU ARE LIKE US OR IN THE GRANT P TWO TREASURY IS VERY ARDUOUS. LIFT MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING CORRECTLY.

>> WHAT PROJECTS COULD THAT MONEY BE SPENT ON? AMONG THE COURT OF THAT.

COULD IT BE SPENT ON IV MAGEE? >> THAT IS SPECIFICALLY THE SCOPE OF WORK.

IT WAS SPECIFIC AND IT WAS FOR RESTORATION AND ENHANCEMENTS OF IV MAGEE, PADRE BAYOU, DOOM WALK OVER SOME ADDITIONAL RESTROOMS, MORE RV PARK SITES FOR PUBLIC AMENITIES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THE QUESTION I HAVE WITH TC Q THAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE ECONOMY WAS SKILL WHEN THE BUDGET WAS DEVELOPED IS NOT THE SAME ANYMORE.

I HAD TO GO BACK TO MY CONTRACT WITH THEM TO TAKE OUT SPECIFIC DELIVERABLES AND MAKE THEM MORE GERMANE LIKE UP TO 20 SIDES OR UP TO THIS BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO GET LOCKED IN AND HAVE A FIGHT WITH TREASURY THAT SAID YOU WILL BUILD FIVE WIDGETS BUT ONLY BUILT THREE.

RICK SCOTT, THE QUESTION THAT COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ HAD IS IF WE HAD THE MONEY, COULD IT BE

USED ON THE IV MAGEE BUILDING? >>SCOTT: NO. NO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: BUT WE HAVE, SO YOU KNOW, A PLETHORA OF PROJECTS THAT COASTAL PARKS HAS DEVELOPED THROUGH THE PLAN. THROUGH BASICALLY THROUGH THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

>>COMMISSIONER: WHEN WE GET THE MONEY YOU BRING IT BACK TO THE COURT TO REMIND THE COURT HIS WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT REPORT IN THREE YEARS SO THE COURT CAN SEE EVERYTHING WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND SIGN OFF ON SOME OF THAT STUFF.THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE WANT TO MAYBE DOING A WORKSHOP. WE HAVE REVIEWED IT IN SO LONG BECAUSE WE GOT THE NOTICE OF AWARD YEARS AGO AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED. IT IS THE FRUSTRATION OF

DEALING WITH IT, WITH BUREAUCRACY.>>COMMISSIONER: WE CAN USE WHATEVER IS ALLOCATED FOR THE RV AND MOVE IT TO THE IV MAGEE IN THAT USE THAT MONEY FOR THE RV.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE HAVE ONLY DONE THE RV PARKS. YES THEY ARE BOTH COMPLETE.

>>COMMISSIONER: WE HAVE ANOTHER PHASE WE COULD DO BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO THAT NOW BECAUSE I AM RUNNING OUT OF MONEY. IF THAT IS USABLE FOR THAT THEN

AT THAT TIME BECAUSE IT IS A REVENUE GENERATING RV AREA. >>JUDGE CANALES: EXCEPT WE MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT THE PUBLIC AMENITIES PIECE OF IT. GO OUT THERE AND TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE BATHROOMS AND THE SHOWERS. WE COME BACK HOME WE WILL SEE

WHO WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON ANOTHER RV. >>COMMISSIONER: THE COURT WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THAT.! NO. THE COURT, WELL, COASTAL PARKS SHOULD HAVE A BIG SAY-SO IN THAT BECAUSE THEY WROTE THE GRANT FOR A VERY SPECIFIC SCOPE

AND THEN WE COULD CHOOSE WHICH AMENITIES. >>COMMISSIONER: BUT JUDGE, REMEMBER THE REASON WE GOT THE GRANT IS BECAUSE OF THIS COURT, THROUGH MY CEOS, MANAGED BY $5 MILLION. THIS COURT SHOULD HAVE A HUGE SAY ASTRID COASTAL PARKS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ASKED SHOULD. SPLIT EVERYTHING GOES TO COASTAL PARK, IS A GIVEN.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COASTAL PARKS, THEY HAVE A STRATEGY AND IS A GOOD ONE BUT IT NEEDS MONEY. IN HIS A LOT OF MONEY.HE PUBLIC FACILITIES AND AMENITIES

ARE SUBPAR FOR A BEAUTIFUL DESTINATION AND WE KNOW THAT. >>COMMISSIONER: I DON'T KNOW

BUT WHEN IT COMES UP THEN THE COURT SHOULD REVISIT IT. >>TIM: JUDGE I KNOW HE IS SAYING. WE ARE ONLY FITTING THE SCOPE THAT WE BROUGHT THEM BACK TO LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC RETURN ON WHAT WE ARE DOING. I GET WHERE HE IS GOING WITH

THIS. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE PROBLEM IS, WE GOT DECIMATED IN HANNAFORD YOU HAVE NO PEER, NO RESTAURANT, GOOD BATHROOM FACILITIES.

UNTIL YOU GET THE BASICS YOU NEED TO, WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE BASICS.

PEOPLE NEED TO BE ABLE TO USE IT. WE HAVE TO GENERATING REVENUE PARKS AND YOU GO TO PART THREE IS WHEN YOU CAN'T SUSTAIN THE BASIC AMENITIES.

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THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE ALL, FOR EXAMPLE THE LIFT STATION THAT WE HAVE.

IT'S ALSO SOME HALF-MILLION DOLLARS AND IS ALSO ANOTHER POTENTIAL.

WE MIGHT GET IN FROM CBD G. >>COMMISSIONER: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT STUFF.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IS NOT EVEN HAPPENING.> .ALL WE ARE TRYING TO DO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE KNOW HOW TO SPEND THE MONEY AND THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE.>>COMMISSIONER: WILL HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. I KEEP SEEING IF BRENDA WE WILL.

IT'S BEEN SO LONG SINCE WE GOT THE REWARD IS SO FRUSTRATING. >>JUDGE CANALES: AGAIN, I AM

SURE. >>COMMISSIONER: I HAVE A QUESTION.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I AM SURE SCOTT COULD JOIN US AND GIVE US A WHOLE REPERTOIRE ON ALL THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS SO THAT WE CAN START THINKING ABOUT IT. WE WILL INVITE YOU, SCOTT, TO THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT WE ARE DEVELOPING WITH TIM AND THE COURT.

>>SCOTT: IS ME. I THINK A WORKSHOP IS GREAT BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO BRING IN, AT THE WORKSHOP I LIKE TO DISCUSS THE BIG SHERMAN PROCESS AND THE FEDERAL RELATIONS AUTHORIZED USES AND DOCUMENTATION I HAVE GONE FROM ALL THE NATIONAL RESOURCE REVENUES. AND IT KEEPS COMING UP AS WELL AS THE GUIDANCE DOCUMENTS THAT I HAVE GONE. LIKE TO FEEL CHERYL THAT WITH YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK THAT SOUNDS GOOD. WE WILL MOVE ON FROM THE INTEREST BUT WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT INPUT TIME AND ISOLATE VISIT WITH YOU TODAY.

COMMISSIONER I AGREE. CALL TO QUESTION. WOULD YOU MAKE THE MOTION AND

YOU DID.>COMMISSIONER: YES MA'AM. >>JUDGE CANALES: I HAVE GOT THE MOTION. I WILL SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

YES SIR? >>COMMISSIONER: THE REASON I WAS ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS IS BECAUSE WE GO FIVE YEARS, FIVE YEARS AND NOTHING HAPPENS. WE CAN'T USE THE MONEY.

THERE ARE MONIES THAT WHEN WE CUT BACK. I DON'T MIND EXTENDING TO MR. RICHARDSON AND SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING UNTIL DECEMBER. RIGHT NOW I WOULD SAY NO TO EXTEND IT. I DON'T MIND GOING UNTIL DECEMBER TO SEE WHERE WE ARE AT AND HOW IT WILL COME OUT. MY QUESTION ABOUT GO WAS FOR THAT PURPOSE.

HOW MUCH HAVE WE GOTTEN THIS 2017 AND IS ZERO. I KNOW WE ARE WORKING ON IT AND KICKING IT AROUND. WE ARE HERE DISCUSSING EVERYTHING THAT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY NEEDED FOR THE PIER AND HOW WE WILL GET THE MONEY. ERE'S HOW.

WE SAVE $65,000 BUT WE SAVE SO MUCH ON THE OTHER ONES. THAT'S HOW WE SAVE THE MONEY AND THAT MONEY COULD BE DIRECTED TO THE PIER AND WE NEED THE MONEY FOR THE PIER. WE ARE ARGUING ABOUT WE DON'T HAVE MONEY AND WE WILL GET THE MONEY.

AND I DON'T MIND HELPING COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. I TOLD HIM THAT YESTERDAY, TOO.

BUT WE DO EVERYTHING ELSE TO TRY TO SAVE SOME OF THE MONEY AND THEN WE WILL BE SPINNING THE WHEELS AND HAVE NO MONEY. MY RECOMMENDATION, AS FAR AS MY DISCUSSION IS THAT EXTANT IN

THREE MONTHS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN WORKSHOP. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND RIGHT NOW BUT IS THERE ANY NEED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>>COMMISSIONER: LET ME RESPOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. HE IS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING.

>>COMMISSIONER: I AM SORRY. >>JUDGE CANALES: THEN I WILL GET BACK TO YOU.

>> ALSO HERE WHEN YOU DISCUSSED ALL OF THIS. I WAS HERE WHEN MR. SCOTT CROSS WAS HIRED. THE THING I REMEMBER WHEN I INTRODUCED HIM IS THAT HE WAS WELL-QUALIFIED TO DO THE JOB. WELL-QUALIFIED BY GETTING THE MONEY AND THE GRANTS IN.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CAN'T RELY ON HIM. OKAY.

I ALSO AGREE THAT YESTERDAY WE WERE DISCUSSING COMMISSIONER CHESNEY'S.

HISTORY. AND AGAIN WE ARE BROKE AND THERE'S NO MONEY.

WE NEED TO START CUTTING DOWN AND SAVING MONEY WILL BE CANCELED WE CAN BUILD OUR BUDGET AND WE CANNOT DEPEND ON FEMA WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO GIVE US MONEY BECAUSE IT'S A DISASTER. WE NEED TO GENERATE OUR BUDGET AND GET IT BACK UP TO WHERE WE NEED IT SO THAT WE CAN DO THINGS LIKE THAT. WE CANNOT BE SO DEPENDENT ON

FEMA OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY.

WE ARE NOT VOTING YET. BUT I WILL GET THERE. HANG ON.

COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. >>COMMISSIONER: I APPRECIATE THE SENTIMENT.

I WILL HAVE IT ON A COUPLE OF THESE OTHER CONTRACTS BUT THAT IS WHEN I SEE IT DIFFERENTLY IN THE REASON I SEE IT DIFFERENTLY IS BECAUSE I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH CONSULTANT ONE

BY ONE. >> I AGREE. >>COMMISSIONER: MY FEELING ON ONE CONSULTANT IN THE FACT THAT WE HAVE CONSULTANTS IS NOT ACROSS THE BOARD THAT WE ARE TO GET RID OF ALL CONSULTANTS. I THINK THAT IS NOT REASONABLE FOR ME IN THE SNOW AND

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EMBRACING -- SAY HERE AND I WANT TO APPLY ANYTHING. DELEGATE THIS ONE ON HIS FACE AND I THINK TO NOT HAVE QUALIFIED REPRESENTATION IN D.C. FOR THE ISSUES AND THE COMPLEXITIES THAT WE HAVE FOR ADVICE AND STRATEGY. I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT ONE. LIKE I SAID I AM NOT GOING TO FEEL THAT WAY ON SOME OF THE OTHER CONTRACTS. I KNOW THAT WILL CAUSE DISSENSION AND I DON'T MEAN TO BUT REASONABLE MINDS MIGHT DIFFER. WILL DIFFER WITH YOU GUYS ON THIS ONE BUT I WILL AGREE WITH YOU ON OTHER ONES. AND IS NOT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY HAS VALID POINTS. I AM APOLOGIZING BUT IT IS WANT TO EXPLAIN.IT IS WHAT IT IS AND SOMETIMES I WILL AGREE WITH SOME PEOPLE ON THE COURT AND SOMETIMES I WILL GREET OTHERS AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL AGREE WITH ME AND I DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY AND I HOPE NOBODY ELSE DOES EITHER. THIS ONE I BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE REPRESENTATION IN D.C. THAT WE HAVE. I BELIEVE HE SERVES AS WELL AND I DON'T BELIEVE IS AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT BASED ON THE GOING RATES FOR PEOPLE OF HIS QUALITY AND LEVEL IN WASHINGTON D.C.. SO ON THIS ONE I JUST DIFFER WITH YOU GUYS ON THIS AND UNSUPPORTED IN I THINK WE NEED TO EXTEND IT A YEAR. BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH GOING ON. I THINK HE WILL EARN HIS MONEY JUST ON THIS.

FOLLOWING THIS BUCKET RESOURCE STUFF. WE'RE TALKING MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT IS AT STAKE THAT WE MIGHT GET SOME AND WE MIGHT NOT GET SOME.

BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE TO MONITOR THAT. AND YOU ARE RIGHT SCOTT IS GOOD AT WHAT HE DOES BUT SCOTT HAS HIS PLATEFUL. HE REALLY DOES BUT I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU. I CAN'T GET SCOTT AND I DON'T MEAN THIS REALLY, BUT I CANNOT GET SCOTT TO RETURN MY PHONE CALL SOMETIMES BECAUSE HE IS SO BUSY.

NOT SAYING THAT AS A SHOT ACROSS THE BOW BUT HE IS SO MUCH GOING ON THAT I DON'T EVEN TRY TO COMMUNICATE WITH HIM SOMETIMES BECAUSE HE SO BUSY. TRYING TO LIMIT WITH HIM BECAUSE HE IS DOING SO MANY THINGS NOW AND WHERE SCOTT IS REALLY THE BEST IS IN GRANT WRITING. HE GOES OUT AND CAN FIND MONEY FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN'T.

BUT HE ALSO NEEDS HELP. IF HE'S GOING TO GET A FEDERAL GRANT AND HE CAN USE TIM TO HELP HIM DO THESE THINGS AND I THINK THAT IS REALLY COMPELLING.

I THINK THIS ONE IS WORTHWHILE AND NOT BEING TRANSPARENT ABOUT IT.

LIKE I SAID I DON'T HAVE AN ACROSS THE BOARD FEELING WHEN WE ARE THE OTHER BY THINK THIS

ONE IS VALID. I WILL SUPPORT THIS EXTENSION. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY.

IN THE INTEREST OF KEEPING IT SIMPLE IWILL JUST SAY THAT . YES COMMISSIONER MAREZ?

>>COMMISSIONER: I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE OF THE OPTIONS IF WE DON'T KEEP HIM.

DOES THIS FALL ON SCOTT TO WORK ON? >>JUDGE CANALES: LOOK.

SCOTT CAN ADDRESS THAT. IT IS AN IMPOSSIBILITY. IF I SAID TO ANYBODY HEY I NEED YOU TO GO CHASE THE NRDA $22 MILLION PHOTO QUALITY GRANT FOR PETRONILA.

WE GOING TO GO? THERE'S NOBODY ON THE COURT WHO EVEN HAVE THE FOGGIEST IDEA ON WHERE TO BEGIN. THESE ARE THE COMPLEXITIES OF MULTIPLE FEDERAL STATUTES.

WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE EXPERT AND, FORGIVE ME BUT $22 MILLION COMING OUR WAY AND SOME HAVE MILLION DOLLARS COMING OUR WAY IS THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG. THE REASON YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYTHING IS BECAUSE THE SECOND BUCKET IS NOW JUST BEING AWARDED.

THE FIRST BUCKET, WE GOT WHAT WE GOT AND WE ARE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS OF RECEIVING IT.

BY THE WAY, FEMA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JIM RICHARDSON AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT.

RIGHT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION COMMISSIONER MAREZ, IT IS A DOLLAR WAITING ON A DIME. WE HAVE A HUGE STAKEHOLDER OF OVER $1 BILLION TO COME GET OUR FAIR SHARE. WE HAVE BEEN STRATEGIZING QUICKLY AS A COURT AND ACTING LIKE A NORMAL URBAN COUNTY THAT LIVES ON THE GULF COAST. WE ARE THE LARGEST URBAN CENTER BUT THE IDEA THAT YOU THINK IT CAN BE HANDLED IN-HOUSE IS LUDICROUS.

COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. THE REAL CRUX OF THE MATTER IS WE ARE WINNING.

WE ARE DOING AN AMAZING JOB IN TELLING OUR STORY AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL.

AND WE ARE CONSTANTLY GETTING NEW THINGS DONE AT IS LIKE THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE SITUATION. BUT WE HAVE BECOME THE CHAIRMAN, COCHAIRMAN OF THE CAUCUSES FOR GULF STATES. A SUPER POWERFUL, INFLUENTIAL BODY THAT IS HELPING RE-CREATE DOLLARS AND CHANNEL THEM TO THE GULF COAST. THAT IS WHY CORALVILLE IS COMING DOWN HERE. THAT IS WHY ALL EYES ARE ON NUECES COUNTY AND CLAYBURGH." FRANKLY ARANSAS AND PIECES OF CPAC TWO.E MAKE THIS NICE CRESCENT MOON.

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WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT COASTAL PARKS IS MANAGING THE PARK SYSTEM.

THEY ARE ALSO HELPING US STRATEGIZE ON LONG-RANGE PLANNING, JUNE PROTECTION AND SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS BUT RESTORE ACT, NRDA, GOMESA OUR FEDERAL PROGRAMS AND IN FEDERAL WATCHDOGS. YOU DON'T WANT THE COUNTY TO WIN THE VOTE NO.

IF YOU WANT THE COUNTY TO WIN THEN VOTE YES. BECAUSE IF YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN ANY OF THESE ACTS THEN YOU SHOULD AT LEAST BE FOR SOMEBODY WHO CAN.

THAT IS THE WHOLE CRUX OF IT. WE HAVE A HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR EMOTIONAL BY JEFFERSON COUNTY GOT $150 MILLION IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS? BECAUSE OF THE GUY THAT IS ON THE SCREEN THAT WORKS FOR US RIGHT NOW. WE ARE POISONING OURSELVES FOR US GETTING THAT KIND OF DOLLARS HERE. YOU DO NEED TO RELY ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. GUESS WHAT, THAT IS HOW YOU GET EDUCATION DOLLARS AND THAT IS HOW YOU GET TRANSPORTATION DOLLARS. THAT'S HOW YOU GET HEALTHCARE DOLLARS.F YOU DO NOT THINK YOU RELY ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, I HAVE TO BREAK IT TO YOU.HEY HELP US EVERY DAY. THE ORBIT MONEY TO HELP US WITH ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES IS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HELPING US. YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT.

>>COMMISSIONER: ALSO SAYING THAT WE HAVE TOO MANY CONSULTANTS ON BOARD.

I BELIEVE THAT MR. CROSS IS WELL-QUALIFIED TO GO TO WASHINGTON AND EXPLAIN THE SITUATION. HE'S GOT AN ASSISTANT THAT HE BROUGHT IN HERE A FEW MONTHS BACK THAT WAS PERFECTLY QUALIFIED. ALSO TO TAKE CARE OF THE COASTAL PARK SERVICE. THE JOB THAT SHE DOES. HOW MANY DAYS WOULD IT TAKE FOR

MR. CROSS TO BE OUTTHERE . >>JUDGE CANALES: I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION AND I WILL CALL

THE QUESTION. >> I DIDN'T GET TO FINISH. >>JUDGE CANALES: GO AHEAD.

>> CAN I GO? >>JUDGE CANALES: GO AHEAD. I SEE YOU NOW.

>> THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WAS AT STAKE. HONESTLY WE KNOW THAT TIM IS AN EXPERT FOR ME TO BRING SOMEONE OF THAT CALIBER DOWN HERE TO HELP US IS TREMENDOUS. WHOEVER HAS BEEN OUT THERE CONTACTING ELECTED OFFICIALS I AM SURE IT'S TEDIOUS TO HAVE THAT DONE.

REMEMBER WHEN ALL THIS HAPPENED I WAS GETTING UPDATES WITH US ON CITY COUNCIL, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS ON THE CITY COUNCIL BUT I WAS ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THE SCHOOL BOARD BUT WE ARE GETTING UPDATES EVERY QUARTER OR SO ON DEEPWATER HORIZON. THESE ARE ESSENTIAL DOLLARS THAT WE CAN BRING TO OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR ME THE ARGUMENT IS THE SAME FOR THIS ISSUE AS IT WILL BE FOREVER. WE NEED EXPERTS. THAT MEANS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY TO BRING IN A WHOLE LOT AND THAT IS THE STORY AND IT SHOULD BE NO OTHER DEBATE TO IT. I GET THE CONCEPT THAT WE ARE IN CONSULTANT HAVING BUT THE ARGUMENT TO THAT IS THAT WE NEED MORE STAFF AND I THINK THAT IS AN ARGUMENT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE AN LOOK AT IN THE NEXT BUDGET AND HOPEFULLY PAST WITH WHATEVER REVENUE STREAM THAT WE NEED TO INCREASE THE STAFF. TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THOSE THINGS BUT I THINK THEY SHOULD TO A CERTAIN LIMIT BUT DO YOU EXPECT TO BE IN AUSTIN OR D.C.

IS NOT THE WAY TO DO IT THEY ARE THE EXPERTS THAT ARE THERE AND HOW THEIR WHO TRAVEL FREQUENTLY ON OUR BEHALF AND THEY ARE THE ONES THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR US.

THE MESSAGE FOR ME IS STRONGER NOW THAN IT EVER HAS BEEN BEFORE THAN ANYONE WE HAVE HAD WORKING FOR US.MORE THAN WELL-QUALIFIED AND ABSOLUTELY WE NEED TO GO GET THAT MONEY TO HELP OUT THE COUNTY, RIGHT. I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE NEED TO GO WITH THIS AND THAT IS

WHAT I WILL CAST MY SUPPORT FOR RETHINKING JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

OKAY. I GUESS IN THE INTEREST OF TIME WE ARE GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION EVERYONE I THINK IS HAVE A GOOD SAY-SO HERE. ALL RIGHT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING, WHEN WE READ IT CORRECTLY, APPROVING THE SECOND SUPPLEMENTAL WITH TEMPERATURES AND FOR PERSONAL SERVICES RELAY THE RESTORE ACT AND OTHER FEDERAL FUNDING RESOURCES

SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> SUPPOSED SAY BY SAYING NAY.

>> NAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: THREE AYE'S AND TO NAY'S.

TIM WILL GET THAT CONTRACT TO YOU AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING YOU HERE IN THE WORKSHOP AND WE WILL WORK ON THOSE DATES. RECENTLY A LITTLE BIT OF A

SENSE OF WHAT PEOPLE SCHEDULES ARE. >>TIM: THE COMMISSIONERS.

>> FOR LITTLE BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING WE HAVE COMMISSION REPORT ON OCTOBER 18 AND OTHER

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MEETINGS ARE SET FOR THE 20 THE 21ST. I KNOW THE DATE THROWN OUT WITH THE 19TH BECAUSE I THINK TIM SAID SOMEBODY WAS COMING DOWN ON THE 20TH.

THEY ALL WE NEED TO ME BEFORE THEN. SO WE WILL GET SOMETHING OUT TO YOUR OFFICE ABOUT DURING THE WORKSHOP ON THE 19TH BUT I DID WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU

ALREADY HAVE A FULL WEEK. >>COMMISSIONER: THE 19TH IS FINE FOR ME.

BUT I WANT TO DO IT AS A WORKSHOP. BUT MAYBE WITH SOME ACTION ABILITY IF WE SO CHOOSE. I DON'T KNOW THE ACTION WOULD BE BUT SOMETIMES WORKSHOPS WE GET INTO THEM AND THEN WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING. SOME ARE SAYING.

I KNOW THE ACTION WOULD BE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THERE ARE SOME IMPORTANT, IS PRETTY QUICK BUT THERE ARE SOME IMPORTANT GRANTS THAT TIM KNOWS ABOUT THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO GET HIS INPUT ON.

WE TALKED ABOUT ONE YESTERDAY. >>COMMISSIONER: I AGREE. I AM JUST SAYING I AM GOOD OF

EVERYBODY ELSE IS GOOD. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DO NEED TO CHECK BELINDA BUT I WILL LOOK

SHORTLY. >> I MIGHT BE OUT FOR THOSE DAYS.

FOR A MEDICAL PROCEDURE. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S GET BACK TO YOU BUT WE WILL WORK ON IT HARD HERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I AM GOING TO SWITCH IT UP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I SEE WE HAVE ON AND IS PHILCO ON." TO

[8. Receive report from third party reviewer on the Johnson Controls Inc., Phase I and Phase II Energy Savings Performance Contracts.]

OUR NUMBER EIGHT WHICH YOU WILL GIVE US A REPORT ON JOHNSON CONTROLS THINK PHASE I AND PHASE II ENERGY SAVINGS PERFORMANCE CONTRACTS. AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COURT GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY BEFORE YOU GO INTO THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION.

WE HAVE A NEW SOMETIMES IT'S NICE TO SET THE BACKGROUND. >> GOOD MORNING GEORGE AND COMMISSIONERS. ROUGHLY 11 YEARS AGO THE COUNTY PARTNERED WITH JOHNSON CONTROLS FOR FORCED CONTRACTING AT THE COURTHOUSE. IN THE JAIL.

AND ALSO WE DID A PHASE 28 YEARS AGO AND TOOK ON THE DETENTION CENTER.

JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER AND THE MCKENZIE ANNEX. BUT WE DO THE CONTRACTS IS THE ENERGY RETROFIT IT IS LIGHTING, WIRE AND MECHANICAL UPGRADES. THROUGHOUT THE FACILITIES.

AND WE DO A UTILITY BILL COMPARISONS AND ESTABLISH A BASELINE THAT COMPARES UTILITY BILLS AND THE ENERGY SAVINGS THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE RETROFITS.

IT'S USED TO PAY BACK THE LOAN THE COUNTY CHECK OUT WITH SECO TO FUND THE PROJECTS.

RIGHT NOW I PRESENT COURT IN YEAR NINE.15. THIS WOULD BE PROJECT OVERVIEW.

THE COURTHOUSE IS IN PHASE 1 AND THE JAIL. ENERGY CONSERVATION MEASURES THAT WERE DONE EFFECT ON TRANSFORMERS TO CORRECT CAN CHARGE PENALTIES ON POWER FACTOR. THUS TAKING PLACE AT ALL THREE DIETS.

LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS WERE WE DID UPGRADES ON THE OLD TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE FLUORESCENT T12'S AND T8'S. WATER PLANT UPGRADES REPLACED IN THE CENTRAL PLAN AND SHOWED WATER IMPROVEMENTS AND WATER CONSERVATION. IN THE HVAC SYSTEMS IN THE COURTHOUSE. ON PHASE 2 PROJECT AGAIN IT WAS MORE ADDITIONAL UPGRADES IN THE CENTRAL PLAN THE COURTHOUSE AND LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS IN MCKENZIE JAIL AND DETENTION CENTER. THE WATER CONSERVATION DELISI UPGRADES, TOWER REBUILD AND AGAIN THIS PROJECT WAS AWARDED IN JULY 2010. THE CONTRACT STARTED IN INSULATION PHASE STARTED AND WAS FINISHED FOR APRIL 1 2011. AND IN PHASE 2 WAS AWARDED IN DECEMBER 2013. THE RESTARTED FOR GUARANTEE OF 2015.

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SO SINCE THEY ARE BASICALLY ON THE SAME UTILITY BILLS WE CONSOLIDATED THE COURTS AND JUST PRESENT THE REPORT AS ONE PROJECT. AND WILL REPORT.

SO FAR WE HAVE HAD A COST AVOIDANCE OF 1,000,800, 100 -- $1,081,084.03 YEAR NINE.

BUT A GUARANTEE OF 1 MILLION 2619. WE HAD ADDITIONAL NONUTILITY APPOINTMENTS. 186,223. WE HAVE A POSITIVE VARIANCE OF 54,000 FOR THE YEAR. I KNOW THIS TABLE IS VERY DETAILED BUT FOR THE HISTORICAL REPORT THAT SHOWS INSULATION SAVINGS THREE YEAR ONE, TWO, THREE IN ALL AWAY DOWN THROUGH A BROKER PART 29, TO SHOW YOU HOW IT IS, AND BY MONTH AND YEAR NINE TOTALS HERE AND IN TOTAL FOR THE WHOLE PRODUCT IN THE RUNNING TOTAL YOU SEE WE ARE BASICALLY AT 108 PERCENT OVER THE GUARANTEE, YOU NINE EVERY YEAR BASELINE WAS ESTABLISHED REGARDING THE ENERGY ENERGY IS ACHIEVED WE WILL FIND THAT BY THE CURRENT RATE.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE RATES FOR YEAR NINE AND FOR THE PHASE 2 PROJECT IN YEAR SIX.

>>COMMISSIONER: NEVERMIND. GO AHEAD. >>JUDGE CANALES: SO YOU HAVE

DONE WELL RIGHT? >>COMMISSIONER: IS THIS IN THE REPORT?AND NOT SEE THIS.

THIS IS NOT WHAT I HAD. >> I GOT IT THIS MORNING. >>COMMISSIONER: I AM GOING TO MOVE THE TABLE BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO EVEN SEE IT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: BILL, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY WANTS TO READ IT BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I READ, I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT WHAT YOU HAVE GOT ONLINE AND THEN THUMBING THROUGH WHAT WE HAVE PASSED OUT. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT OUR VERIFIED SAVINGS ARE GREATER THAN OUR GUARANTEED SAVINGS.

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >>JUDGE CANALES: AND THE VARIANCE IS 54,000.

EVERYONE CAN READ IT AND WE WILL GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO DO IT.

THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THROUGH QUARTER FOR WHICH IS WHY WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS, THE WHOLE, THIS PARTICULAR YOU KNOW, WE ARE CALLING IT YEAR NINE, RIGHT? YEAR NINE YOU COME AND GIVE THESE ANNUAL REPORTS AND YOUR REPORT IS THAT THE VERIFIED SAVINGS EXCEED THE GUARANTEED SAVINGS AND THEREFORE WE CAN GET INTO THE WEEDS AND ALL YOUR CHARTS ARE EXCELLENT BUT IF I AM LOOKING AT WHAT I THINK WOULD MOST PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW IS, DID THIS PROGRAM DO WELL THIS YEAR AND THE ANSWER IS, IT DID WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO

AND BE THE MARGIN BY $54,000. CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>COMMISSIONER: JUDGE IF I COULD ARTICULATE MY MOTION TO TABLE A. I LIKE THE AUDITOR OR SOMEONE TO VERIFY. I AM NOT SAYING I DON'T TRUST THESE PEOPLE BUT I JUST WANT

SOMEONE TO VERIFY IT, RIGHT. AND ONE, TOO. >> THE RECORD TO SIT DOWN WITH OUR STAFF TO GO OVER THE REPORT. DO WANT TO MENTION THAT OFF THE SAVINGS IS REALLY THE COURTS ARE FULL BLAST. WE HAVE STAFF THAT HAVEN'T BEEN HERE.

AND THAT IS ONE THING I DID BRING UP IS THAT WE DID SEE A BIG SAVINGS IN THE PAST YEAR AND AND A HALF AND IS BECAUSE REALLY WE HAVE NOT BEEN UNDER 100 PERCENT.

I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO ALL OF THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: QUITE FRANKLY, I MEAN, I HEAR YOU BUT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO GET THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THAT HEAD ON. HE BILL. I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS BUT THAT IS WHY WANT TO TABLE A. I HAVEN'T READ THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT. I AM TABLING THIS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REPORT SAYS I CANNOT HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS HANDED TO ME 30 SECONDS AGO.

THIS CONTINUES TO HAPPEN. PEOPLE CONTINUED TO WALK IN HERE ON THE DAY OF THE MEETING THAT ARE REPORTS OF 30 PAGES PLUS AND IS NOT RIGHT IN ITS AGAINST THE POLICY BUT I WANT

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TO TALK TO ONE AND THE AUDITOR AND I HAVE THE DISCUSSION BUT I DON'T WANT TO DO IT.

WHEN I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO READ. I WANT TO TABLE IT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. HE BILL.

THIS IS THE WILL OF THE COURT. >> OUR APOLOGIZE FOR THIS MEETING IT IS VERY CHAOTIC.

ALL RIGHT. I WILL TALK TO YOU LATER. >>COMMISSIONER: I COULD HAVE

READ IT LAST NIGHT. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE USE TO OFFER JUST A MOMENT.

I KNOW HE IS OBVIOUSLY UPSET BUT COULD. >> YES, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>>JUDGE CANALES: I JUST WANT TO ARTICULATE THAT THIS IS JUDGE CANALES.

I THINK THAT JUST TO TRY TO HAVE YOU HAVE UNDERSTANDING. THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IN THE COURT THAT ABSOLUTELY INSIST THAT EVEN IF IT'S A PRESENTATION THAT YOU ARE GIVING THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE IT AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT WHEN YOU ARE GIVING IF THEY HAVE SORT OF A BASELINE. AND THAT IS WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS ARTICULATED THE LAST TIME AND SO I THINK THAT IS THE FRUSTRATION FOR SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COURT.

I HOPE YOU CAN APPRECIATE THAT. I MEAN, SO WE ARE GOING TO LET US READ IT AND IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS WE CAN WORK WITH THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR TO HAVE IT BACK AS AN AGENDA ITEM AND WE WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US THIS AND WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE YOU BACK IF WE DON'T

NEED TO. BUT. >> WILL PRICKLY JUDGMENT WE HATED THIS IN ABOUT A MONTH AGO BECAUSE IT WAS TABLE ABOUT A MONTH AGO AS WELL.

YES ACTUALLY HAD AT LEAST MY REPORT I DO BELIEVE HE HAD JOHNSON'S AS WELL.

SO THE LAST TIME WE MET OVER THE SAVINGS WE MET IN YOUR OFFICE AND SO.

>> WHO DID IT GET HANDED TO START? >> THE SEASON?

EXCUSE ME? >>COMMISSIONER: I WANT TO MAKE SURE MY COMMENTS WERE NOT DIRECTED AT JOHNSON'S CONTROL BUT IT WAS RIVER WALKED IN WITH THIS AND DO NOT GIVE IT TO US ON TIME. IF THE STAFF IS HEADED FOR A MONTH AND YOU CAN TAKE THE RAFT AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS COULD BE IN OUR OFFICES FOR A MONTH AND NOBODY GOT IT TO US

TO TODAY. >> ARE YOU SAYING THAT THAT THE ENERGY SEEMS REPORT ON LOOKING AT ONLINE. AN ONLINE FOR THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU ARE GIVING THAT WE

ALREADY HAD IT? >> I BELIEVE IT WAS SENT ABOUT A MONTH AGO AT THE LAST MEETING AND I GUESS IT WAS TABLED. I GUESS YOU NEEDED MORE TIME TO DIGEST THE INFORMATION.

>>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER AT THE HE SAID HE GAVE IT TO YOU WHEN IT WAS TABLED.

HE DID NOT GIVE IT TO ME. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IT WAS PROVIDED LAST MINUTE AND YOU

CAN DO THAT BECAUSE IT WAS LAST MINUTE. >>COMMISSIONER: THIS IS THE BACKUP THAT WE WERE PROVIDED. I WAS NEVER HANDED ANYTHING FROM JOHNSON CONTROL.

>>JUDGE CANALES: HE SAID A MONTH AGO. WE WILL CHECK INTO IT.

>>COMMISSIONER: I THOUGHT HE SAID HE HANDED IT TO TYNER. IS TWO SENSOR?

>> I GUESS IT WAS THE LAST WILL MEETING LAST MONTH. YOU GUYS HAD JOHNSON CONTROLS REPORT AND ARE DELIVERED MINE AND TYNER A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE, THAT COURT MEETING.

SINCE HE ONLY HAD A COUPLE OF DAYS, ONLY ONE DAY TO REVIEW MY REPORT YOU DECIDE TO GO AHEAD

AND TABLE IT UNTIL THIS MEETING.>>COMMISSIONER: WHICH REPORT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HER BECAUSE WE HAVE TO.HE ONE THAT WALKED IN TODAY AND WAS HANDED TO US AND THE ONE THAT IS IN OUR BOOK THAT I READ AND I THOUGHT THAT IS WHAT WE WILL BE DEALING WITH.

THIS ONE IS DIFFERENT. >> THERE IS ONE FROM JOHNSON AND ONE FROM ENGINEERING.

I AM AN ENGINEER FOR JOHNSON. >> PROCTOR ONE WAS HANDED IN BEFORE, CORRECT?

>> YES SIR. >> BUT NOT THE JOHNSON CONTROLS ONE.

>> I BELIEVE THE JOHNSON ONE WAS ALSO SENT LAST MONTH BUT I AM NOT SURE.

BILL WOULD HAVE ANSWERED THAT. >> IT WAS SENT IN WITH BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS MEETING LAST

WEEK >>JUDGE CANALES: HE SAID IT WAS HANDED IN.

LOOK GUYS BUT I THINK SOMETIMES I MEAN , IN THE SPIRITS OF JUST TRYING TO GET THINGS ACCOMPLISHED. LET US GO BACK TO COURT ADMINISTRATION AND FIGURE IT OUT. BUT GUYS, NONE OF THIS IS THAT HARD TO READ .

WHAT YOU REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE OF IS THAT YOU HAVE A THIRD-PARTY ENGINEER WHO IS CERTIFYING THESE RESULTS. WHAT YOU WANT DALE TO DO TO GO GET THE MEGAWATT.

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THE KILOWATT USAGE. >> I BEG TO DIFFER.HESE TABLES ARE NOT EASY TO READ.

THEY TAKE SOME TIME TO READ. ONE HAS SOME COMMENTS ON THE OBSOLETE HE MADE AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH SOME OF THIS AND THERE'S A WHOLE DISCUSSION THEY WANT TO TAKE ON HEAD ON.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TACKLE A DISCUSSION HEAD ON WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO READ THE REPORT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: BUT IT'S A PRESENTATION AND THERE ARE SO MANY TIMES WE GET INFORMATION

IN CORPORATE DON'T YOU JUST WANT TO GET THE PRESENTATION, >> NOT IF SOMEONE DOES NOT

PROVIDE ME THE INFORMATION. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE CAN HAVE IT ON MULTIPLE AGENDAS.

LET THESE MEN COME AND GET THE REPORTS HE CAN HAVE SOMETHING TO HAVE A BACKGROUND ON.

>>COMMISSIONER: BUT I CANNOT ENGAGE IN THE DISCUSSION. >>JUDGE CANALES: WECAN BRING IT

BACK. >> .THAT'S ALL I ASKED WAS TO TABLE IT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WANT, FORGIVE ME BUT YOU MIND TAKING THE MIC FOR A SECOND .

>>COMMISSIONER: I MADE A MOTION TO TABLE IT AND THERE WAS A SECOND INNOCENCE WAS WITH

DISCUSSION AFTER THAT ACCORDING TO THE RULES. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE HAVE NOT ADOPTED ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER. WE PROVIDE CUSTOM AND PRACTICE. KARA, THE BASES HAVE TO STOP IT YOU ARE NOT A POLICYMAKER AND I LOVE THAT YOU ARE ANIMATED. I LOVE IT.

YOU DO A GREAT JOB. BUT HONESTLY, IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

YOU KNOW WHAT YOU COMMISSION AND IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

>> THE JUDGE, I AM NOT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT ME. ND I CAN'T HELP IT WHEN THERE

IS CHAOS. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT'S NOT. I FEEL LIKE WE CAN DO BETTER.

I FEEL LIKE WE CAN DO BETTER. I THINK WE CAN. I AM BEING HONEST WITH YOU.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU WANT TO ORDER AND CONTROL AND THE CORN THEN LET'S TRY TO GET A MESSAGE TO THESE FOLKS AS TO WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE THIS

TABLED UNTIL NEXT MEETING FOR WHAT PURPOSE? >>COMMISSIONER: FOR THE PURPOSE OF WANT TO READ THE REPORT. ALSO WANT TO CORRECT SOMETHING, TOO, POSSIBLY WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WHO IS NOT HERE HAS TOLD ME THAT THIS COURT HAS ADOPTED ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER AND THAT IS WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ADVISED THE LAST TIME THIS CAME UP.

I WANT TO CLEAR IT UP. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THOUGHT SHE SAID THE OPPOSITE.

I THOUGHT SHE SAID, HONESTLY, WHEN YOU BROUGHT IT UP THAT WE USED IT.

LOOK, I HAVE MY GRANDMOTHER'S COPYRIGHT HERE. I LOVE IT AND IS VERY HELPFUL

>>COMMISSIONER: I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR . I THOUGHT SHE SAID THAT WE DID.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ALL I KNOW IS WE WANT TO TRY TO USE THE RULES THAT WE KNOW BUT LET'S NOT USE THEM TO NOT CREATE PROGRESS. I WANT TO CREATE PROBLEMS WITH THE CORPORATE I WANT TO MOVE ITEMS. YOU WONDER WHY OUR AGENDAS ARE SO LONG BECAUSE WE CANNOT GET THE EASY STUFF DONE. ALL THIS IS IS A PRESENTATION. IF YOU TAKE ISSUE WITH IT, WE

CAN BRING IT BACK. >>COMMISSIONER: THAT IS ALL I AM ASKING.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THESE GUYS HAVE BEEN ON FOR THREE DIFFERENT COURTS.

THREE BUT I ASKED TO TABLE IT 30 MINUTES AGO AND ACCORDING TO THE RULES THAT SHOULD HAVE

ENDED THE DISCUSSION MOVED IS FOR TO GET THROUGH IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM EMBARRASSED FOR THIS COURT TO ALLOW THESE PROFESSIONALS, THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. IT IS IMPORTANT TO ADD LEAST GET THE HEADLINE SUMMARY.

THEN I THREW A WRENCH IN IT AND, HONESTLY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE COMMENT AT ALL

BECAUSE IT'S NOT BASED ON DATA. >>COMMISSIONER: AND I WOULD HAVE AGREED WITH YOU IF I KNOWN AND I WILL NOT HAVE KNOWN THAT STAFF MESS THIS UP THEN I AM NOT SURE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE DON'T KNOW. THEY BECAUSE THIS IS A PROCTOR AND THEY ARE SAYING THEY THINK THIS WAS IN A MONTH AGO. RIGHT WHEN IT IS WALKED IN AND LINDA'S REPRESENTATION IS THAT IT WAS JUST HANDED TO ME AND I AM HEADING INTO YOU THEN IT IS AN AUTOMATIC TABLE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE COURT HAS SAID WE WOULD DO. I WAS JUST THERE WITH THE COURT, THE ALL AGREE, YOU INCLUDED, THE IT WAS NOT SUFFICIENT BACKUP WE WOULD TABLED ITEMS. IT WAS A CORE POLICY WE ALL AGREED TO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I JUST FEEL LIKE WE FELT THE BACKUP WAS THERE BECAUSE IT IS IN THE BOOK. IF THIS PRESENTATION IS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, BUT ONE

THAT YOU HAVE ANY, I DON'T KNOW. >> I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT I UNDERSTAND THESE ARE INTERRELATED AND OBVIOUSLY YOU WILL NEED BOTH OF THEM.

WHICH YOU REPEATED IS ACCURATE COMMISSIONER. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WHAT THE AGENDA ITEM IS TO RECEIVE A REPORT FROM THE THIRD-PARTY REVIEWER AND THAT IS WHAT YOU

WILL HAVE FOR THE BACKUP. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.> I DON'T KNOW.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THIS IS JUST SUPPLEMENTAL. >> YOU WANT TO WAIT TO HEAR

BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER? >>COMMISSIONER: THIS IS THE REPORT THAT WE ARE GOING OVER AND WE WERE NOT DOING THE ONE IN THE BOOK. THAT'S WHAT THREW ME OFF.

ONE LET'S TAKE THIS FROM JOHNSON CONTROLS AND TURN IT OVER.

IT IS NOT GERMANE BUT THE GENTLEMAN THAT IS ON AND THAT HAS BEEN WAITING FOR TWO DAYS.

>>COMMISSIONER: 100 PERCENT AGREE. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL LET HIM FINISH BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD THE BACKUP AND IT DOES NOT VIOLATE ANY PRAISE RULES.

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>> .I AM GOOD WITH THAT. THE ROCKET REPORT IS FINE. >>JUDGE CANALES: PROCTOR IS ONE

THIRD PARTY. YES MA'AM. >> I DON'T KNOW IF MR. NEEDS TO

WITHDRAW HIS TABLE. >>COMMISSIONER: I WOULD DROP MY TABLE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: AS TO THE GCI. >>COMMISSIONER: PASSWORD IS THE JOHNSON CONTROL.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL TAKE IT SECOND. HE IS AMENDING IT.

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ONLY TABLE THE JOHNSON CONTROL PORTION.

THAT IS WHAT I AM STILL SAYING. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU FOR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY

SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >>JUDGE CANALES: PROCTOR WE WILL ALLOW YOU TO MAKE THAT PRESENTATION THAT WAY, AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFUSION.

CONTINUE. >> THIS IS A JOHNSON REPORT. YOU HAVE TO QUEUE UP THE

REPORT. >>JUDGE CANALES: GIVE CONNIE A SECOND TO DO THAT.

>> THANK YOU. >> THE ONE IN THE ENGINE? >> YES.

THE GCI. THERE IT IS. YET.

THAT'S IT. >> OKAY. THAT IS THE COVER PAGE.

DO I HAVE MOUSE CONTROL OVER THIS? >>JUDGE CANALES: CAN WE SHARE

THE SCREEN WITH HIM? >> WHO IN MY TALKING TO? >> I HAVE GIVEN YOU REMOTE

CONTROL ACCESS. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY YOU ARE THE THIRD-PARTY ENGINEER THAT HELPS CREATE THE VERIFICATION TO THE ENERGY SAVINGS, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT IS CORRECT.HIS IS AN ENERGY SAVINGS PERFORMANCE CONTRACT AND THROUGH SOME SORT OF LEGISLATION WE ARE RESPONSIBLE.ACTUALLY THE PROJECT REQUIRES THE THIRD-PARTY ENGINEER TO BASICALLY LOOK AT THIS THING FROM THE UTILITY SIDE AND FROM A TECHNICAL PERSPECTIVE. WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO COME OUT AND DO SIZE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS NOW.

INITIALLY IT WAS DONE BY LMB BUT THERE'S SOMETHING OUT TO ME ANYWAYS.

WE MET WITH PREVIOUS PUBLIC WORKS ADMINISTRATION AND WE ARE ABLE TO WORK OUT A DEAL FOR I CAN WORK DIRECTLY AND SAVE YOU SOME MONEY. THAT IS WHY WE ARE DOING WHAT WE DO. WE TAKE THE MNP REPORT FROM JOHNSON CONTROLS AND ALL THE MODELING ANALYTICS AND WE REVIEWED THAT. TECHNICALLY FOR VALIDATION AND JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS ON HARVARD WE DO POINT OUT AND YOU WILL SEE THIS IN OUR REPORT.ANYTHING THAT WE FIND THAT IS AN ANOMALY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WE UNDERSTAND HAS BEEN OUT OF WARRANTY FOR A WHILE. BEFORE COVID WERE OUT DOING SITE VISITS JUST TO CONFIRM AND CHECK ALL THE ENERGY CONSERVATION METHODS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS STILL OPERATING AND MAKE COMMENTS. IT IS NOT REQUIRED FOR US TO DO THAT BUT IT IS ONE THING THAT THEY ASKED US TO DO EARLY ON AND WE BEEN TRYING TO DO THAT.

IT'S A LITTLE HARDER NOW THE COVID SITUATION WITH LACK OF STAFF AND TO WORK THINGS AROUND. ANYWAY, YES. WE GO TO PAGE THREE IT SO THIS REPORT HAS BEEN MODIFIED AND ADJUSTED OVER THE YEARS. GLENN AND BOB HAVE ASKED US TO MAKE IT SHORTER AND MAKE IT MORE SUMMARIZE. IT USED TO BE MUCH LONGER.

THE WAY WE HAVE DONE THAT IS WE COME IN AND BASICALLY GIVE A QUICK REVIEW OF EACH ENERGY CONSERVATION MEASURE AND IN THIS CASE IS UTILITY CONSERVATION MEASURE.

AND WE GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT MEASURES THAT WERE DONE AND WE MAKE COMMENTS ON ANYTHING WE HAD SEEN BUT THIS FIRST ONE YOU WILL NOTICE FOR THE CORRECTION AND BULGES TOUCHED ON THIS BUT THE REASON WE DO POWER FACTOR CORRECTION IS TO IMPROVE THE RESULTS OF THE CURRENT BEING DRAWN. BASICALLY IT ALLOWS LESS CURRENT TO BE USED IN THE CLOSER WE CAN GET TO UNITY SINCE IS A RATIO OF ROLE POWER ABSORBED BY THE LOAD VERSUS OBSERVED POWER IN THE CLASSROOM IS ONE OF THE BETTER. IT REDUCES THE POWER CAUSE.

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT IN ITS WHAT IS DONE IN BOTH PHASES. IN THIS CASE SOMETIMES WE WILL COME IN AND OUR UTILITY REPORTS OR THE SITE ASSESSMENTS AND FIND THAT THE POWER FACTOR BASED ON THE GAUGE WAS APPROACHING 90 PERCENT OR LESS AND WE MAKE COMMENTS LIKE IN

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THIS CASE WHO MADE A COMMENT ON THAT. THIS IS FOR PUBLIC WORKS TOTAKE BACK AND TRY TO CORRECT . SO WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE AND LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE SAME THING THERE BUT I DON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME GOING THROUGH A LOT OF THESE CONSERVATION MEASURES BUT WE KIND OF TAKE ALL OF THESE FROM OUR VISITS AND MAKE COMMENTS ON THINGS THAT WE HAVE SEEN. EARLY ON AT MCKINSEY THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH RADIOFREQUENCY WITH THE DEPUTIES WHENEVER THEY WOULD CALL FOR DOORS TO BE OPEN AND LIKES TO TURN OFF AND ON.

IT WAS A CRAZY THING AND WE GOT IT ALL FIXED OR JOHNSON GOT IT ALL FIXED.

THAT IS WHY WE GO OUT AND DO THE SITE VISITS TO CHECK ON THINGS LIKE THAT.

SAME THING WITH BOILER UPGRADES. I AM GOING TO KIND OF SCROLL THROUGH THESE AND IF YOU ARE OKAY WITH THE SPEED. THIS IS THE CHILLER BMPS THAT WERE PUT IN AND THE REASON THAT GCI PUT THESE IN OBVIOUSLY IS A WAY TO SAVE ENERGY IS TO TURN THINGS OFF OR SLOW THINGS DOWN WITH THAT IS WHAT THESE THINGS DO.

VERY VALID CONSERVATION METHOD AND WATER CONSERVATION IS A NO-BRAINER.

THERE WERE SOLAR MEASURES TAKEN IN THE FIRST PHASE. SOME HVAC IMPROVEMENTS.

I WAS GOING TO SCROLL THROUGH THE SLOWLY. HOPE YOU DON'T THINK I AM GOING

TOO FAST. >> SIR. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE HAVE A

QUICK QUESTION FROM THE FLOOR. >> IF YOU GO BACK ON THE SOLAR SYSTEMS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ONE SLIDE BACK MAYBE TWO SLIDES BACK. IT IS THE SOLAR ARRAY ON THE

ROOF. RIGHT THERE. >> WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THAT? IS THAT OPERATIONAL? I UNDERSTAND IS NOT REALLY WORKING ANYMORE AND WHEN IT STOPPED WORKING IF IT DID. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME IT WAS CHECKED TO SEE?

>> YES THIS SYSTEM IS CURRENTLY NOT OPERATIONAL THERE BEEN ISSUES WITH CORROSION AND

SALINE ENVIRONMENTS WITH THE PIPING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. >>TIM: BEEN OFF-LINE FOR ABOUT MAYBE FOUR YEARS NOW AND THE SYSTEM WAS REALLY PUT IN NOT SO MUCH AS ENERGY CONSERVATION MEASURE EVEN THOUGH IT DOES SAVE ENERGY. IT'S MORE OF A GREEN THING.

IT WAS WORKING FOR THE FIRST FOR FIVE YEARS BUT IT IS CURRENTLY NOT BEING USED.

THE SYSTEM WAS SET UP TO PREHEAT THE WATER GOING TO THE BOILER SYSTEM TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF THE LOAD OFF THE BOILER AND SAME ENERGY THERE. LIKE I SAID CURRENTLY IS NOT

OPERATIONAL. >> IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD REMOVE OR IF IT'S NOT WORKING. OUR MEMBER WILL INCLUDE ON THEIR WE ARE ALL ON TOP OF THE ROOF AND LOOKING AT IT. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME OF IT AT THE END OR SOMETHING IS NOT WORKING HE WOULD FIX IT OR REMOVE IT. OR WHATEVER.

NOT SURE. >> THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION WITH JOHNSON CONTROLS WITH, DOES THIS THING NEED TO GET REPAIRED OR REPLACED ORREMOVED. I AM NOT REALLY SURE WERE ALL IF THAT IS. . IT IS NOT OPERATIONAL. IT COULD BE REPAIRED OR PUT BACK ONLINE BUT I AM NOT SURE WHAT THAT TAKES. IT IS CURRENTLY STILL THERE.

>> ABILITY TO HAVE FEEDBACK ON THAT TO SEE WHAT WE WILL DO WITH IT.

IF WE DON'T NEED IT UP THERE IF IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. BUT I THINK WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THE ROOF ANYWAYS. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT TO SEE WHERE WE ARE AT WITH IT AND WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR JOHNSON CONTROLS.

>> IS SERVED. WE WILL DEFINITELY WORK ON. >>JUDGE CANALES: SPECIFICALLY WITH JOHNSON CONTROLS WILL THEY REMOVE IT AT THEIR COST? THAT'S THE QUESTION.

>> OKAY. WELL SINCE IS OUT OF WARRANTY I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WILL REMOVE IT AT THEIR COST AND THAT IS A DISCUSSION AGAINST YOU GUYS AND JOHNSON CAN HAVE.

>> I REMEMBER IT WAS SOMETHING IF IT'S NOT WORKING THEY WOULD, IT WAS ON THEIR PLATE THAT THEY

WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT, YOU KNOW. >>JUDGE CANALES: IS WHATEVER THE CONTRACT SAYS IT IS. WE CAN JUST ASK MELISSA IF YOU WOULD DROP THAT DOWN FOR THE ATTORNEYS TO LOOK AT. IT'S A VERY SPECIFIC QUESTION REGARDING THE SOLAR ARRAYS.

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GO BACK TO THAT CONTRACT AND IT'S BEEN 10 YEARS OBVIOUSLY BUT.

GO BACK TO IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU HEARD IT ONLY MATTERS WHAT IT SAYS.

SO LET'S GO SEE IF THERE IS A WAY THAT WE CAN, THERE WILL BE A COST TO REMOVE THE SOLAR ARRAY AND TO DO THE ROOF. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER GCI HAS ANY RESPONSIBILITY.

>> WHAT IF IT DOESN'T WORK AND THEY LET IT GO ON THEN I CAN SEE WHERE IT WOULD EXPIRE BUT IF THEY HAD TAKEN CARE OF IT AND PAID ATTENTION TO IT WHEN THEY FIRST CAME TO THEIR ATTENTION.T WOULD HAVE BEEN FIXED BECAUSE I WAS WORKING HERE WHERE HE KNEW IT WAS NOT

GOING TO WORK. >> WE WILL GET SOME FEEDBACK. >>JUDGE CANALES: NOBODY HAS ANY EVIDENCE OF WHAT ANY DOCUMENTS SAY BACK AND FORTH. THEY MAY HAVE TOLD US EXACTLY WHAT TO DO AND WE DECIDE NOT TO DO IT AS A CORPORATE ISSUE IS GUESSWORK.

>> WE DON'T KNOW. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVE INVESTIGATED.

OR WE WILL LOOK AT IT WILL ASK FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY TO LOOK AT IT.

GO AHEAD. I THINK YOU WERE ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

>> SURE. THIS LAST ONE HERE FOR EIGHT IS HVAC IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY DID. CONTROLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND MOTORS AND FREQUENCY READINGS. CONTROL VALVE REPLACEMENTS. AIR HANDLER REPLACEMENTS.

NOW THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE YOU WILL NOTICE THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT.

THAT IS A JOHNSON CONTROL AND YOU SEE THE PANEL THAT WE TAKE A PICTURE OF.

INITIALLY WHEN WE WERE DOING THE FIRST INSPECTION IN PHASE 1 WE ASKED FOR SOME CORRECTIONS TO THE PANELS AND IT DID NOT LOOK THIS PRETTY. BUT JOHNSON CAME IN AND DID EXACTLY WHAT WE ASKED THEM TO DO AND THEY CLEANED EVERYTHING UP AND DID A REALLY GOOD JOB.

THIS IS WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE IT IS WHAT THEY DID. SAME THING NOT WORKING INTO PHASE 2 AND THIS IS THE SAME TYPES OF CONSERVATIONS AND ENERGY CONSERVATION MEASURES ON THE FIRST LINE AND WE HAVE PICTURES OF THE CLASSROOM THINGS THAT ARE THERE IN THE FACILITIES. LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS LIKE BUILT MENTION FROM T12 TO T8'S.

BACK THEN T EIGHTS WERE ALL THE RAGE FOR LED WAS ACTUALLY MAINSTREAM.

SO THIS IS WHAT WAS THE BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK BACK THEN AND OF COURSE I WANT TO SEE LED AND IS MUCH MORE PORTABLE. AIR HANDLER REPLACEMENTS AS WELL.

CONTROLS OF GRADES.WATER CONSERVATION MEASURES. THIS IS AN IMAGE BEHIND THE WALL THERE IS A DOOR THE KITCHEN BEHIND THE CONCRETE WALL WHILE THE INMATES ARE.

ALL THE STUFF IS ACCESSIBLE BEHIND PERSONA CAN GO IN THERE AND SERVICES.AS OF THE IMAGES ARE FROM. THEY REBUILD A COOLING TOWER AT THE ANNEX.

HIS PICTURE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT HERE IS BASICALLY THE BLOCK THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IS THE FILTER GOES INTO THE COOLING TOWER THAT SEPARATES THE WATER DROPLETS ALLOWS IT TO DRAIN IT DOWN AND PICK UP HEAT AS THE FAN PUSHES THE AIR OUT. THAT IS ONE THING THAT WAS REFURBISHED THERE. THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER WATER PUMPS PUT IN.

THAT IS KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE ECR ADVANTAGE WE HAVE DONE. SO WE KIND OF SUMMARIZE ENERGY SAVINGS REVIEW HERE AND WE BASICALLY SING FROM THE GUARANTEE FOR THE WHOLE PROGRAM. TODAY $7.9 MILLION IN CHANGE AND COST AVOIDANCE FROM JOHNSON IS 743. HE'S ONLY MENTIONED THAT YOUR NINE BENEFIT FOR THIS YEAR IS IN THE POSITIVE.OF 54,000. THE BENEFIT TODAY IS 585,000. YOU'RE DEFINITELY IN THE BLOCK

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ON THE PROJECT AND THERE HAS BEEN TWO YEARS WHERE THE VARIANCE WAS NEGATIVE.

I BELIEVE JOHNSON EITHER WHAT YOU GUYS A CHECK OR WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH THE PUBLIC

WORKS. THUS, IT IS GUARANTEED. >>JUDGE CANALES: GO BACK ONE KNOW I SEE YOU BROUGHT IT DOWN. THAT'S WHAT IS GOING TO SAY. ARE YOU INVOLVED WITH THE QUARTERLY REPORTS THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER WITH PUBLIC WORKS?

>> YES, TYPICALLY WE GET TOGETHER WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND JOHNSON AND WE ARE THERE JOHNSON DOES THAT REPORT AND THIS IS BEFORE WE GET A CHANCE TO DO HOURS.OURS IS BASED OFF HIS REPORT. THEY HAVE BEEN REMOTE THE LAST COUPLE WE HAVE DONE WITH JUAN.

BUT WE DIFFERENT WITH THEM. >>JUDGE CANALES: I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT I CALL LOGICAL THINKING. IN PAST YEARS THERE HAVE BEEN, AS YOU SAID A COUPLE OF TIMES, ACTUALLY REMEMBER ONE OF THEM I THINK IS IN THE AUDIENCE WHEN HE PRESENTED WAY BACK IN MAYBE 2018. THERE'S ONE TIME WHEN YOU HAD TO, NOT YOUR BUT GCI HAD TO MAKE UP THE DELTA OF THE GUARANTEED SAVINGS AND CHECKS WERE WRITTEN TO NUECES COUNTY.

IS THAT CORRECT? SIMILAR TO SAY? >> I AM NOT SURE IF A CHECK WAS WRITTEN OR THEY WORK SOMETHING OUT EXTRA WORK. BUT JOHNSON DID MAKE GOOD ON

THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THEY MAKE GOOD ON THE SAVINGS BECAUSE THAT

PARTICULAR YEAR SAVINGS WERE NOT REALIZED IS THAT RIGHT? >> THAT IS RIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WANT TO POINT OUT TO THE COURT THAT IN THIS INTERESTING THEORY THAT WAS JUST ARTICULATED BY PUBLIC WORKS THAT MAYBE COVID HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH OUR LESS USE OF THE COURTHOUSE. THREE YEARS AGO COVID DID NOT OCCUR AND SAVINGS DID NOT OCCUR EITHER. THIS YEAR PAST 12 MONTHS WE DID HAVE A PANDEMIC AND WE DIDN'T HAVE COVID IN SAVINGS DID OCCUR.

SO I AM JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOT MORE DATA, WE HAVE HAD OTHER YEARS WHERE SAVINGS DID NOT INCORPORATE THIS ENTIRE COURTHOUSE FOR THE ENTIRE TIME OF COVID WAS OPERATIONAL. THE LIGHTS WERE ON EVERY SINGLE DAY AND I KNOW BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN HERE. SO THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE, WAS THERE LESS USE IN SOME AREAS, YES. HAS THE CHILDREN ADAM HUMPHRIES AND POPULATION SINCE COVID?

>> YES. YOU'VE HAD UPTICKS IN SOME PLACES AND DOWN TICS AND OTHERS BUT UPON BALANCE THERE ARE SOME YEARS THAT SHOW SAVINGS AND OTHERS WHERE THERE IS NO PANDEMIC AND OTHER YEARS THAT DON'T. SO I DON'T SEE THERE IS ANY CORRELATION AT THIS MOMENT THAT CAN REALLY BE WITHOUT SOME SERIOUS YOU KNOW QUIZZING OF WHAT EVERYBODY GOES, I DO NOT ASK FOR YOU JUST YET. I WILL LET ROB TO COME IN BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY DATA TO SHOWCASE WHICH COURTS ARE WORKING AND SO YOU KNOW I AM AND MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF JUDGES SO BEFORE YOU CAN TELL ME ABOUT HOW THE COURTS OPERATE. THE JUDGE'S ARE DEFINITELY HERE.

>> IS A MATTER OF FACT I JUST SAID THE COURTS WE HAVEN'T HAD CLOSED.

THAT IS WHAT I WAS SAYING. THE THING WE HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF THEM COME INTO THE COURTHOUSE, TOO. IF YOU REMEMBER IN THE COUNTY ENGINEER AND WILL MEET WITH

THESE PEOPLE. >> HE PUT THE MIC UP, >> I SAID ON THE COUNTY ENGINEER AND PUBLIC WORKS AND WHEN I MEET WITH THESE PEOPLE WITH GCI AND ROGER TO GO THROUGH THE REPORTS AND THERE WAS A SUGGESTION AND DISCUSSION THAT WAS MADE IN OUR DISCUSSION THAT BECAUSE OF THE LOW POINT OF PEOPLE COME INTO THE COURTHOUSE THAT IS PROBABLY THE REASON WHY THERE WAS A SAVINGS. THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND WITH RAPTURE AND GCI THAT THOSE SAVINGS MYSTERIES, USING THE SAVINGS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE GEORGE WOULD YOU HAVE OUR MEETINGS. >> YOU ARE NOT UPSET THAT WE HAVE A SAVINGS THIS YEAR? AND IT'S A GOOD THING WE HAVE SEEN, RIGHT.

WHO CARES WHAT THE REASONS IS WE HAVE A SAVINGS. >> I GUESS WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A POINT TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND TO THE COURT TO SAY THERE IS A REASON WHY YOU ARE SEEING THE SAVINGS. I AM NOT, THERE IS NO, WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS IT'S A POSSIBILITY OF FURTHER SAVINGS WAS COMING FROM.

LITTLE I AM SAYING.>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL TELL YOU WE HAVE NEVER HAD TO SHIP PRISONERS OUT THE LAST THREE YEARS EITHER BECAUSE OF OVERPOPULATION IN OUR CHILL WHICH CAUSES. I AM JUST SAYING TO YOU. RIGHT.

>> ALL I AM SAYING IS THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THERE IS HIGH USAGE.

>> I JUST WANT THE COURT TO KNOW THAT THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY BASED ON MY

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DISCUSSIONS WITH JCI. >>JUDGE CANALES: 54,000 IS A LOT?

>> IT IS A SAVINGS.>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

WE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT.

>> THANK YOU FOR BRING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION JUAN. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE CANNOT WAIT TO EXPLORE THAT FURTHER. THE POINT IS THAT IT'S LIKE THE COURT CAN'T EVEN HAVE GOOD NEWS BE GOOD NEWS ANYMORE. BUT RAPTURE ARGUE COMPLETE WITH YOUR REPORT AT THIS TIME?

>> I AM STILL GOING THROUGH IT QUICKLY AND JUST TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT JUAN HAS SAID.E DO MEET EVERY QUARTER TO GO OVER THAT REPORT. BILL REALLY CAN'T DO HIS JOB UNTIL HE GETS ALL OF THE UTILITY DATA REPORTS FROM, GUESS, FROM THE CITY OR COUNTY OR WHOEVER GIVES HIM THE REPORT. THAT'S WHAT TRIGGERS HIS ACTION TO DO HIS THING. SO ANYWAY IS NOT ALWAYS ON A TIMELY BASIS BUT WE OR HE GETS IT AS AS SOON AS HE CAN AND DOES THE SAME THING. JUST TO MENTION YEAR NINE AT THIS POINT HAD A POSITIVE VARIANCE BUT WE HAVE HAD POSITIVE VARIANCES OVER THE PAST SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS AS WELL. WITH NO PANDEMIC.

YOUR FALL WE HAD A POSITIVE VARIANCE OF 165,000. THERE'S ONLY BEEN THREE OCCURRENCES WHERE IT WAS IN THE RED. FOR THE MOST PART EVERY YEAR IT'S ALMOST BEEN POSITIVE. IT'S HARD TO SAY EXACTLY THE USE OF THE BUILDING HAS BEEN LESS THIS YEAR AND WE ALSO HAVE A MILD SUMMER. THESE ARE THINGS THAT GO INTO ACCOUNT FOR WHAT THE UTILITY BILLS READ AND WHAT THEY SAY AND HOW YOU HANDLE IT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: EXACTLY. THERE ARE TOO MANY FACTORS AND TOO MANY VARIABLES.

THE GOOD NEWS IS IT'S GOOD NEWS. >> THAT IS RIGHT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY PAGE 15 I GUESS. >> YES.

THIS IS THE SUMMARY THAT THE COUNTY HAS ASKED US TO PUT TOGETHER FOR THEM OVER THE YEARS. WE TALKED ABOUT THE LOGICAL BENEFIT TO DATE AND WHAT IS IN THE CURRENT YEAR. YOUR NINE. WE GO THROUGH THIS FOR ELECTRICITY IN THEM AND GO OVER NATURAL GAS. AND ALSO FROM WATERFORD THERE ALMOST THERE AND THIS IS A REPRESENTATION OF WHAT I EXPLAINED EARLIER IN NUMBERS.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS, HERE IS THE CHART. WE TAKE A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT YOU SAW IN THOSE REPORTS. AND WE SUMMARIZE IT TO THE STORE.

WE HAVE ELECTRICAL, GAS AND WATER. AND WE HAVE BASELINE COMPARED TO THE ACTUAL YEAR NINE RESULTS. ON THE ELECTRICAL SIDE WE HAVE DEMAND. CONSUMPTION AND THEN CAUSE. AT THIS POINT IN TIME ON THE LOGICAL SIDE WE ARE SEEING A 30 PERCENT REDUCTION IN USAGE.36 PERCENT REDUCTION IN DEMAND WITH REDUCTION OF 36 PERCENT IN COST. SEE HOW THAT WORKS ACROSS THE BOARD FOR YEAR NINE. IT'S DEFINITELY IN THE POSITIVE AND IS DEFINITELY A GOOD THING.

ALL WE REALLY HAVE LEFT IS OUR REFERENCES WILL INFORMATION WE HAVE BEEN REVIEWING OVER THE YEARS BETWEEN JOHNSON'S REPORTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THEN I STAMPED THE LAST PAGE

AND WE ARE GOOD. >>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. LET ME ASK IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR WORK OR THE REPORT THAT YOU ARE RENDERING. AT THIS TIME.

ANYBODY? >> NO. THANK YOU SIR.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY THANK YOU WE APPRECIATE YOUR REPORT AND YOUR PATIENCE.

>> NO PROBLEM. I WANT TO THANK YOU AND I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANKS. YOU KNOW WHAT. HE HAD ON THERE BUT THE

GUARANTEED SAVINGS. ARE YOU STILL THERE ALF? >> YES.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT NUMBER FOR THE GUARANTEED SAVINGS. HERE IS STILL A PAYMENT THAT

IS BEING MADE. >> THAT IS RIGHT. IS IT ON THE START?I DON'T

THINK SO. >> IT IS DEFINITELY ON BILL'S CHART.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL ASK BILL WHEN WE GET THERE NEXT WEEK.

WHENEVER WE COME BACK. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT

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EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT THERE IS A PAYMENT THAT GETS MADE AND THEN THERE'S A CREDIT THAT IS APPLIED IN THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A 10 YEAR ENERGY SAVINGS THAT IS OVERALL PERFORMED IN THE POSITIVE. SO THEY CAN WORK. IN THE HE GET YOU WHAT YOU NEED. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU GUYS AND I APPRECIATE IT.

WE WILL GO BACK IN NOW TO OUR AGENDA. WE HAVE A FEW MORE ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO TACKLE. MY AGENDA. OKAY I JUST WANTED TO AT LEAST LET THE COURT KNOW THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ADVISED ME THAT ITEMS 19, ACTUALLY NOT 19 ITEMS NUMBER 20 AND 21 NEED TO BE TAKEN UP IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO I THINK I WILL MOVE TO ITEM 19 BECAUSE THAT IS A PRESENTATION ONLY. WOULD THAT BE ALL RIGHT?

[19. Receive update from Hagerty Consulting regarding use of American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds including input received from the public.]

>> YES JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: OUR MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 19 AND ASK TAYLOR TO ASSIST JOSEPH FROM HAGGERTY. THINK SHE HAS A SUMMARY PREPARED IS JUST AN UPDATE FROM OUR PUBLIC FORUMS THAT WE HELD LAST WEEK. THAT MIGHT HELP SET THE TONE.

HI CAITLIN. >> I WILL HAND IT OVER TO RACHEL.

SHE AND FOSTER HAVE BEEN LAYING THE COMMUNITY EFFORT ENGAGEMENTS.

WE ARE EXCITED. >>JUDGE CANALES: CAN REJOICE YOU ONLINE NOW.

GO AHEAD. >> ENSURING MY SCREEN FOR THE PRESENTATION YOU SHOULD HAVE

RECEIVED BEFOREHAND. ONE MOMENT. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT IS THE

HAGERTY PRESENTATION ITEM NUMBER. >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS OR I GUESS IT IS AFTERNOON THERE NOW. GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY BUT MY NAME IS RACHEL AND I AM HERE WITH KAYLYN TAYLOR AND MELISSA FOSTER WILL LIKELY JOIN AS WELL. WE ARE HERE WITH HAGERTY.

WERE ASKED TO PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF ALL THE STEPS WE HAVE TAKEN ALONGSIDE THE COUNTY TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND ALL YOUR STAKEHOLDERS IN AN EFFORT TO UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMUNITIES RECOVERY NEEDS. AND YOUR BROADER NEEDS IN GENERAL WOULD THEN TRY TO USE THOSE NEEDS TO DEVELOP A REALLY COMPREHENSIVE AND EQUITABLE RECOVERY PLAN FOR THE USE OF YOUR PHYSICAL RECOVERY FUNDS. SO FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS NUECES COUNTY HAS BEEN HOSTING MEETINGS WITH DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, WITH YOUTH COMMISSIONERS AND WITH CITY AND TOWN OFFICIALS AND BUSINESS NONPROFIT LEADERS AND MOST RECENTLY WITH SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS. AND AS A PART OF THIS WE ARE ASKING ONE MAJOR QUESTION.HOW CAN COMMUNITY LEADERS LEVERAGE THE PARTNERSHIPS TO MAXIMIZE THE IMPACT OF THIS UNPRECEDENTED FUNDING OPPORTUNITY? AS A WAY TO ANSWER.!

RACHEL. >> EXCUSE ME. IS THERE A PACKAGE HERE

SOMEWHERE OR AN AGENDA? >> CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? >>JUDGE CANALES: HE WANTS TO KNOW IFYOU HAVE , IF YOU HAVE A HARD COPY, A HARD COPY FOR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

>> OF THE POWERPOINT? YES, I CAN EMAIL THAT POWERPOINT TO THE COMMISSIONER

COURT AFTER THE MEETING AS WELL. >>JUDGE CANALES: IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE WHAT IS ONLINE HERE THEY CAN TAKE IT OFF-LINE AND THEY CAN JUST USE IT. THE ISSUE IS THAT THERE IS A FEELING HERE THAT WHATEVER WE SAY IT HAS TO BE IN THE NOTEBOOK OTHERWISE THERE IS, SOMEHOW, A CONCERN THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT. IS THAT THE CONCERN

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? DO YOU WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT? >>COMMISSIONER: HOW LONG IS

YOUR PAGES?>> THREE. FOR SLIDES WITH INFORMATION AND THEN I THINK YOU SLIDE.

IT IS JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS SO FAR.

>> IN THE FUTURE CAN WE GET SOMETHING AHEAD OF TIME? >> IT WAS SENT TO YOU AHEAD OF

TIME, YES. AT LEAST ON OUR END. >> IF I COULD ASK FOR SOME

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CLARIFICATION. I KNOW THAT AS FAR AS BACKUP FOR REVIEWING DOCUMENTS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO IMPROVE. THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN INCLUDED. WHEN IT BECOMES A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT THEY BRING FORTH I DON'T KNOW THAT IS CONSISTENTLY BEEN INCLUDED BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES SPEAKERS ARE WORKING ON IT UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE BEFORE COURT.

I GUESS I WILL NEED SOME GUIDANCE FROM THE CORPORATE IF Y'ALL ARE LOOKING FOR THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION FOR THEIR POWERPOINT. WHETHER OR NOT.

>> HOOTED TO GIVE THIS INFORMATION TO AHEAD OF TIME? STAFF?

>> YES, IT WAS SENT TO MAGGIE TURNER. SHE SHARED THAT THE STAFF WILL

HAVE IT IN THEY WOULD SHARE. I AM SHARING IT ALSO. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT WE DO WITH POWERPOINT IS WE GIVE IT TO CONNIE SO SHE CAN TEE IT UP. I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU.

WE ARE NOT ABLE TO RECEIVE INFORMATION AND THAT IS PROBABLY A GENERAL PROBLEM.

YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO LISTEN TO INFORMATION THAT IS GIVEN BY A WHOLE HOST OF PEOPLE AND IT

DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN YOUR PACKET FOR YOU TO ABSORB IT. >> THIS ONE DOESN'T CONCERN ME

AS MUCH. >>JUDGE CANALES: IS JUST A SUMMARY OF WHAT THEY WANT TO

TELL YOU IN PERSON.T'S LIKE CALL IT A VISUAL AID. >> THIS ONE DOESN'T CONCERN ME AS MUCH BECAUSE I CAN SEE ON HERE THERE'S NOT MUCH TO ABSORB LIKE THE LAST WAR WHICH HAD A TIME TO ABSORB. THE GIVEN NEW DIRECTION I BELIEVE THAT THE COURT PASSED A POLICY THAT IS IN ANY PRESENTATION THAT WAS GOING TO HAVE BACKUP WOULD BE INCLUDED

IN OUR PACKET. WE DID NOT DISTINGUISH. >> THAT IS WHY I AM ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION. A POWERPOINT SUCH AS THIS ONE, Y'ALL WOULD CONSIDER BACKUP

THAT WE NEED TO BE INCLUDING CONSISTENTLY. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK THAT IS WHAT THIS COURT WANTS BUT I DON'T, I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU. AM PERFECTLY CAPABLE OF FOLLOWING ALONG ON THE SCREEN AND WE HAVE NEVER HAD THIS KIND OF TECHNOLOGY BEFORE.

IT'S SO EASY TO DO IT BUT IF THAT IS WHAT WILL HELP YOU THEN LET'S DO IT.

>> IF WE COULD GIVE PRESENTERS DIRECTION AND TELLING THEM THAT WE NEED YOUR POWERPOINT BEFORE

COURT. >> THIS ONE IS NOT OF GREAT CONCERN TO ME.

IT'S MORE THE CONCEPT THAT THE COURT PASSED A POLICY AND WHETHER ONE MEMBER NEEDS SOMETHING MORE THAN THE OTHER, THE COURT PASSED A POLICY WITH A 5Ä VOTE EVERYTHING THAT COULD BE IN A HAVE TIME WILL BE IN. IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY OR SOMETHING CHANGES THE NOBODIES TRYING TO BE UNREALISTIC. WE ARE JUST ASKING EVERYTHING BE IN. YOU CAN FOLLOW THIS, RIGHT? BUT THE LAST ONE.

SORRY. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK THERE IS ADISTINCTION .

BUT THE PROBLEM IS, THESE LADIES JUST WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT WHAT THEY DID.

>> THAT IS WHY I WAS ASKING FOR IT BECAUSE THE ONE YOU ARE REFERRING TO COMMISSIONER, THE PREVIOUS ONE WAS A REPORT. THAT WAS A REPORT. AS OPPOSED TO A POWERPOINT.

SO THAT IS WHAT I WAS ASKING. >> IF AT ALL POSSIBLE IS ALL I AM ASKING.

THIS ONE DOESN'T CONCERN ME THAT MUCH. BUT TO BE CONSISTENT AND TO BE FAIR I DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO THINK THAT WE LET THIS ONE GO AND WE DO NOT WANT THE OTHER

GO. >> COMMISSIONER ON WITH YOU 100 PERCENT BY HOPE YOU CAN ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT NOT ONLY DOES IT TAKE THE TRAIN OF THOUGHT AWAY FROM THE PRESENTER BUT QUITE FRANKLY WE COME ACROSS AS VERY RUDE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE.

>> I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU. I AM BEING VERY POLITE. >> I AM NOT SAYING TO THIS

PERSON. >> UNDER SAYING THAT MY FRUSTRATION IS THAT IF WE ARE NOT GETTING IT IN THE LAST ONE APPARENTLY WAS A STAFF ISSUE SO THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AS DO I. I AM NOT BEING RUDE. I AM JUST TRYING TO SAY CAN WE PLEASE TRY TO GET EVERYTHING IN

AND THIS IS NOT A BIG DEAL. >> VISUAL AIDS BUT POWER POINTS.

LIKE WHEN YOU GO MAKE OR GIVE A PRESENTATION. WE WORK ON POWERPOINT'S THE NIGHT BEFORE. ALL THEY ARE OUR HELPERS TO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING VERBALLY.

>> ABSOLUTELY. I DISCUSSED WITH PEOPLE TO TRY. >>JUDGE CANALES: SOUNDS GOOD.

>> REPORTS A LOT OF DETAIL WAS I WORRIED ABOUT.! ALL RIGHT RACHEL.

NOT START AGAIN BUT START WITH THIS DOCUMENT AND YOU ARE HERE TO TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT WE

HAVE LEARNED SO LET'S, AS THEY SAY, BEGIN AGAIN. >> CAN DO.

COMMISSIONERS LIKE I JUST SAID BUT WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO ASK IS THE BIG QUESTION HERE ON THE BOTTOM. HOW CAN WE WORK TOGETHER, LEVERAGE THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE ARE FORMING TO THESE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS TO REALLY MAXIMIZE THE IMPACT OF FUNDING CAN HAVE ON NUECES COUNTY. AS A WAY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION WE TRIED TO GATHER TO UNDERSTAND COMMUNITY NEEDS AND PRIORITIES TO EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES AND PROVIDE SOME LARGE-SCALE SOLUTIONS TO COUNTY LEVEL AND COMMUNITY LEVEL

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PROBLEMS. AND ALSO TO IDENTIFY PROJECTS THAT CAN BE JOINTLY FUNDED WHICH HELPS THE MONEY GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SO THAT YOU CAN DO MORE WITH IT.

WHICH IS ANOTHER ULTIMATE GOAL HERE.BEFORE TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING WE HAVE LEARNED THE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT WILL BRIEFLY WANT TO THANK ALL THOSE WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE EVENTS, MAGGIE TURNER AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DID DO THE COORDINATION TO BOOKING EVENTS AND DEALING WITH ALL THE TECHNOLOGY DIFFICULTIES THAT WE HAVE HAD FOR A FEW OF THE EVENTS, YOUR EFFORTS ARE ACTUALLY RECOGNIZED AND THANK YOU. AND THEN I WANT TO BRIEFLY, ONE WORD CAME TO MIND WHILE YOU WERE LEAVING THE INCREDIBLE EVENTS OF THOSE HARBINGER BUT ONE WHO INITIATES A MAJOR CHANGE. MY HOPE IS THAT THESE ENGAGEMENTS LEAD TO TRANSFORMATIVE LASTING CHANGES FOR THE COUNTY AND NOT ONLY TO THE APPOINTMENT OF THE FUNDS, YOUR COURT DECIDES TO DO WITH THE FUNDS BUT BECAUSE AS THEY SAY, COLLABORATION IS THE CURRENCY OF THE FUTURE AND THAT IS REALLY WHAT WE ARE BUILDING WHEN WE ARE GATHERING 65 STAKEHOLDERS AND WE ARE TALKING TO COMMISSIONERS AND WE ARE TALKING TO DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS. TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO USE THE FUNDS IN A WAY THAT REALLY NEEDS YOUR COUNTIES NEEDS. ON THIS NOTE ALSO LIKE TO THANK ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS HE CAME TO OUR MEETINGS AND SHARED THEIR STORIES ABOUT HOW COVID HAS IMPACTED THEM IN THEIR ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY, FAMILIES, LIVELIHOODS. THANK YOU ALL FOR SHARING YOUR PROJECTS PRIORITIES WITH US AND ALL OF YOUR UNMET NEEDS. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

OKAY. SO LAST WEEK NUECES COUNTY POSTED THREE ROUNDTABLE MEETINGS AND A FEW OF YOU WERE ABLE TO ATTEND THEM. WE HAD ONE WITH CITY AND TOWN OFFICIALS AND OTHER WITH THE NONPROFIT LEADERS AND THE THIRD WITH NUECES COUNTY COMMUNITY MEMBERS. OVERALL THE PRELIMINARY RESULTS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DISPLAYED HERE ILLUSTRATE WHAT WE HEARD IS A PART OF OUR INITIAL COMMUNICATION EFFORTS.

THE FEEDBACK WE HEARD FROM CITY AND TOWN OFFICIALS WAS OVERWHELMINGLY IN SUPPORT OF DRAINAGE AND OTHER IMPORTANT WATER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT CAN REALLY HELP THE COUNT . THAT WAS ALSO FOLLOWED BY A FOCUS ON LAW ENFORCEMENT RELATED TO INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS AND STAFFING NEEDS THAT COULD HELP IMPROVE LAW ENFORCEMENT CAPACITY IN THE COUNTIES OF THE CITY AND TOWN OFFICIALS WERE ALSO INTERESTED IN MEETING THE NEEDS OF THEIR COMMUNITIES AND THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT IMPROVING PARKS OR OFFERING INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE TO FAMILIES OF COVID-19 VICTIMS. THE FEEDBACK WE HEARD IN THE BUSINESS AND NONPROFIT MEETING. MORE SO ECHOED COMMUNITY NEEDS THAT WERE EITHER EXASPERATED BY THE PANDEMIC OR WERE JUST ADDRESSING UNDERLYING COMMUNITY NEEDS THAT HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THERE AND NOW THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THEM AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THEM. SO WHAT WE HEARD IS THERE IS AN OVERWHELMING NEED TO EXPAND OR OTHERWISE ADD ON TO THE SUSTAINED HEALTH CARE AND MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM.

AS A PART OF THAT DISCUSSION THERE WAS SOME INNOVATIVE PROJECTS THAT WERE PROPOSED THAT WERE DESIGNED TO DO JUST THAT. WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT STRENGTHENING THE CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM MORE SUPPORT FOR OUTPATIENT SERVICES, INCREASE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ESPECIALLY FOR CHILDREN. THERE IS ALSO CONVERSATION ABOUT A DIVERSION CENTER TO HELP ADDRESS THAT ISSUE AND NUECES COUNTY AND THEN SUPPORT FOR INCREASING HOUSING OPTIONS, SCHOOLING RESOURCES, EDUCATION RESOURCES AS WELL AS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT FILLING AND NOT HIRING NEEDS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

OVERALL FUNDING MENTAL HEALTH INITIATIVES WAS THE LEADING PRIORITY IN THIS CONVERSATION OR THIS EVENT. LOOKING AT THE COMMUNITY EVENT ON SATURDAY THIS GROUP REALLY FOCUSED ON LAW ENFORCEMENT, LAW ENFORCEMENT INITIATIVES AND PUBLIC SAFETY INITIATIVES.

THINKING THROUGH INFRASTRUCTURE AND STAFFING NEEDS RELATED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE COUNTY IN THIS CONVERSATION DID INCLUDE TALKING ABOUT HIRING NEW OFFICERS WHO ARE TRAINED TO DEAL WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES OR BEHAVIORAL CRISES. SO THEY PACKED EVERYTHING WE HEARD IN THE PREVIOUS BUSINESS AND NONPROFIT MEETING. ADDITIONALLY THERE WAS SUPPORT FOR DRAINAGE AS WELL AND OTHER WATER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AND THERE WERE ALSO MORE THOUGHTFUL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IMPROVING PARKS OR LOOKING AT EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS INITIATIVES. DOING A SPLENDID MERCY OPERATION CENTER.

BEFORE MOVING ON AND ASKING IF THERE IS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE HEARD I WANT TO BRIEFLY MENTION THAT WE HOSTED THE MOST MEETINGS WITH CITY AND TOWN OFFICIALS.

AND THIS BUSINESS AND NONPROFIT LEADERS TODAY. WE'VE HAD A GOOD TURNOUT WITH ABOUT 55 STAKEHOLDERS WHO CAME AND THAT IS AN INCREDIBLE TURN OUT THERE.

OUR MEETING WAS TO BE IN TOWN OFFICIALS WAS A LITTLE BIT SMALLER BUT IT ALLOWED US TO HAVE REALLY IMPORTANT AND TIMELY CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE LEADERS ABOUT THEIR NEEDS AND IDENTIFYING THOSE JOINT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. OUR TURNOUT FOR THE COMING EVENT ON SATURDAY WASN'T AS STRONG AS THE OTHER TWO EVENTS SO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, BUT

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ESPECIALLY ENGAGEMENT WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS INDIVIDUALS AND NOT NECESSARILY WERE SENDING THE PLACES OF EMPLOYMENT. IT IS ONGOING AND REMAINS A PRIORITY TO CONTINUE HEARING FROM FOLKS IN NUECES COUNTY IN CAPTURING THEIR NEEDS AND THEIR PRIORITIES. BEFORE I MOVE ON I WILL ASK IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT

WHAT WE HAVE HEARD. >>JUDGE CANALES: GUYS, THE ONLY THING I WANT TO ASK YOU IS THAT, DO YOU HAVE THE SENSES OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ATTENDED THAT WEDNESDAY EVENT JUST TO GIVE AN IDEA? WE HAD TO COMMISSIONERS ATTEND ONE OF THE THREE EVENTS.

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ DID NOT GET TO ATTEND AND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY DO NOT GET TO ATTEND.

THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE. COMING UP.

TO KIND OF SKIP UP MORE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED. >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE CAN GET A LITTLE BIT MORE NOTICE BUT HAD CONFLICT, AND A LAST-MINUTE NOTICE IN THE LAST SATURDAY OBLIGATION WITH THE FAMILY. SOMEONE CAN TELL ME THE DATE

NOW I WILL BLOCK IT OUT. >> OKAY WE WILL GET THIS TO YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE MOST IMPORTANT THING HERE IS WE HAVE SUCH A GREAT SHOWING ON WEDNESDAY. BUT I THINK THE CENTRAL JURY ROOM IS A GOOD PLACE TO REDO IT FOR GOING TO DO ANOTHER ONE. FOR WHATEVER REASON IT WORKED.

AS THEY SAY, STICK TO WHAT WORKS. AND OKAY, GO AHEAD.>> WAS ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS JUST SAID I AM SORRY AND NOT CAPTURE HE WAS SPEAKING.

WE WILL SEND YOU SOME INFORMATION IN A FOLLOW-UP EMAIL AND WE ARE ALSO PLANNING ANOTHER COMMUNITY EVENTS FOR THE TWO COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE NOT PARTICIPATED YET.

KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR THE EMAIL AND WE CAN PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION AS WELL AS A

SLIDESHOW WITH MORE SUMMARY INFORMATION. >> THAT IS GREAT IF SOMEONE COMMITTED TIME AND DATE AS AS SOON AS YOU GET THERE. THUS THE MOST IMPORTANT FOR ME AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

BEFORE I WRAP UP THE DISCUSSION I DID WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW QUOTES FROM OUR ROUNDTABLE MEETINGS AS A WAY TO ILLUSTRATE NOT ONLY THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED IN SUPPORT OF SOME OF THE KEY PROJECTS THAT THE COURT IS INTERESTED IN PURSUING.

BUT ALSO BECAUSE THEY HIGHLIGHT THE REALLY IMPORTANT RECOVERY NEEDS THAT WE HEARD ABOUT IN GENERAL. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT DRAINAGE. ONE OF THE STAKEHOLDERS IN SUPPORT OF A DRAINAGE PROJECT SAID, WELL, THAT WOULD BE A HUGE HELP AND WE ARE ALL TOGETHER. WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS WHEN ONE PART OF THE COUNTY EXPERIENCES A FLOOD, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU WERE ALL IMPACTED. IF THERE ARE ARE REDUCED TO JOIN A FUND OR TO THINK THROUGH DRAINAGE PRODUCTS THAT IS A CLEAR , CLEAR NEED IN THAT EVENT. OR DURING THE MEETING. LOOKING OVER AT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THINKING THROUGH THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, ONE STAKEHOLDERS SAID, YET WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE. IF WE GET HIT WITH A CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE WE WANT TO BE A WORK REMOTELY FOR A WHILE. THE KEY TO THE ABILITY TO SUPPORT THE CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS ESPECIALLY THROUGH THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER WAS KEY TO A FEW OF THE STAKEHOLDERS. THEN THING INTO THE MENTAL SUPPORT AND A COMMON THEME THROUGHOUT STAKEHOLDERS SAID THAT A PANDEMIC HAS SHOWN THAT THERE ARE GAPS IN OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM OR THAT A DIVERSION CENTER IS MUCH NEEDED AND OF COURSE THAT WE NEED TRAUMA SUPPORT AND TREATMENT IN THE TREATMENT STARTS WITH GETTING PEOPLE A SAFE PLACE TO GET TO. THE STAKEHOLDERS WERE REALLY ENGAGED AND WE HAD REALLY THOUGHTFUL CONVERSATIONS TO THOSE WHO WERE THERE AND YOU CAN DEFINITELY CONFIRM THAT THE PEOPLE WHO CAME TO THESE MEETINGS ARE DRIVEN AND THEY WERE CREATIVE AND INSIGHTFUL AND WE WALKED AWAY FROM THESE MEETINGS THING ABOUT WAYS THAT WE CAN REALLY USE THE FUNDS TO ADDRESS THE COUNTIES NEEDS AND HELP WITH THAT PATH TOWARD

RECOVERY. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU GIRLS WOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HAGERTY AT THIS TIME? THE ONE THING I WANT TO SAY IS THAT WE WERE REALLY WELL REPRESENTED IN THE COUNTY. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, THE ONLY JURISDICTION THAT DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY).

I THINK THAT WHEN WE DO GET THIS DATE IF YOU WOULD ISSUE A SPECIAL, AS YOU SAY WELCOME BUT WITHOUT THE PRESENCE THEY ARE NOT HAVING THEIR VOICE HEARD. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DID HAPPEN WAS THAT WHEN WE MET WITH THE MUSEUM AFTER THE FACT THEY WERE REALLY INFUSED AND THEY SAID THAT THEY FELT LIKE, AGAIN, MAYBE NOT JUST LEAVING THE EMAIL OF THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT LEVEL BUT LIKE GETTING IT INTO THE HANDS OF STAFF OR CITY COUNCILMAN AND WOMEN IS A DIFFERENT FEELING. SOMETIMES HE RELY, YOU GOT IT RIGHT.> I WILL BE OUT THERE

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MONEY FOR MEETINGS WITH SEVERAL OF THEM. AGAIN I LET THEM KNOW IT IS COMING. IF SOMEONE CAN GET A DATE BY THEN BY CHANCE.

I WILL PRECURSOR IT WHILE I AM THERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WANT TO HAVE THEIR INPUT BECAUSE THAT GIVES YOU THE HOLISTIC APPROACH.

THE ONE THING, IF YOU DON'T MIND COULD YOU GO BACK TO YOUR, I AM SORRY YOU TAKEN A DOWNWARD JUST THE FIRST SLIDE IN ORDER TO SEE IF I CAN GET, THIS IS PRESENTATION ONLY.

MELISSA AND I AM NOT TRYING TO JUMP SOMEWHERE BUT I DO NEED TO SHARE WITH THE COURT THAT WE HAVE BEEN ASKED NOTHING THE COURT KNOWS THIS TO PRODUCE THIS KIND OF A LIST.

GO BACK, GO BACK. TRY THAT ONE. WE NEED TO PRODUCE THIS KIND OF A, I GUESS, LIST THAT ACTUALLY HAS DOLLARS ASSOCIATED WITH IT FOR OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION.

THE SENATE IS ACTING NOW. AS I HAVE SAID 100 TIMES. THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE TEAM.HEY WANT THE LIST TODAY. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BECAUSE THIS IS THE LIST THAT WE HAVE AS OF NOW.

AND WE WILL ALSO MAKE CERTAIN THAT YOU GUYS CAN ADD TO IT. BUT YOU NEED TO SEND IT TO HAGERTY BECAUSE WE NEED TO SEND THEM SOMETHING THAT SHOWCASES WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS SENSING AND WE WILL ALSO SEND THEM THE ONES THAT WE ALREADY IDENTIFIED.

OKAY. KIND OF WE WILL KEEP IT BROAD-BASED BUT IT CAN'T JUST BE THAT BROAD-BASED WITH SELECT DIVERSION CENTER. WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO PUT A DOLLAR TO IT. PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. PARKS, LAW ENFORCEMENT INFRASTRUCTURE, DRAINAGE AND WE WILL CEMENT CASABLANCA FIESTA RANCH AND WE ARE GOING TO SUBMIT THE STUFF THAT WE ALREADY, THEN GOT IDENTIFIED IN THOSE FORMS. AND I AM GOING TO SUGGEST THAT THIS IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT SHEET.

>> WHEN YOU SAY YOU ARE GOING TO SUBMIT SPECIFIC PROJECTS I AM ASSUMING THAT YOU HAVE TALKED TO HIM ABOUT SOME OF THOSE AREAS BUT I MIGHT HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD AND INVITED MY BACK. I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE OF A GENERALIZED CATEGORIES.

PIERCINGS ARE GOING TO. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE LEGISLATURE WANTS TO.

I DON'T KNOW HOW SPECIFIC THEY ARE GOING TO BE BUT THE PEOPLE THAT ATTENDED WERE DRAINAGE DISTRICT NUMBER TWO AND THEY ARE THE PROJECTS THAT THIS COURT PUT UP ALREADY IN A PREVIOUS GRANT. BUT WE DID NOT GET AWARDED. MOST OF THE SAYING THAT THERE IS ALWAYS THERE, WE ALL HAVE DRAINAGE ISSUES IN OUR PRECINCT.

IF YOU ARE NEEDING SPECIFIC DRAINAGE ISSUES. >> I WILL JUST ADOPT WHAT WE

ALREADY HAVE. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT MINE WOULD PUT IN FOR THE ONES THAT MY

PRESENT WILL PUT IN FOR GRANTS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALWAYS TAKE THE ENTIRE LIST LITERALLY, THE ENTIRE LIST. AGAIN I DON'T WANT TO BOMBARD THEM BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE ARE THE CATEGORIES THAT WE ALL THINK ARE VALUABLE.

THE ONLY ONE THAT IS MISSING LADIES THAT I DON'T SEE ON HERE IS IF YOU ARE THE REQUESTER CAME FROM THE UNITED WAY IN HALO FLIGHT FOR NONPROFITS. MY MISSING THAT? I DO NOT SEE THE DISCUSSION ON THIS LIST OF NONPROFITS. THAT'S NOT PROBABLY ONE THAT

WOULD GO UP. >> SO WHEN WE ARE REQUESTING THIS FROM THE STATE WE CAN

REQUEST ON BEHALF OF ON BEHALF OF THE NONPROFITS. >> I DON'T THINK THAT WE WOULD INCLUDE THAT ONE. WE WOULDN'T. BUT IT SHOULD BE CAPTURED ON HERE. ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY I THOUGHT THE HELICOPTER SHOULD BE INCLUDED. BECAUSE THE HALO FLIGHT GOES INTO HEALTH.

>> POSSESS A BENEFIT THAT WE PROVIDE. >>JUDGE CANALES: REGIONALLY.

>> WE PROVIDED THAT AND BENEFIT TO OUR EMPLOYEES WERE ABLE TO SIGN UP FOR THAT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IT MAYBE THAT ONE COULD COME IN. >>JUDGE CANALES: NORMALLY IF I HAD KNOWN WE NEEDED IT AT THIS MOMENT WE WOULD'VE HAD AN AGENDA ITEM BUT AGAIN I AM NOT CONCERNED THAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR DETAILS. I THINK WHAT I AM WANTING TO SAY IS THAT THIS PRESENTATION REALLY HELPS US AND THAT IS WHY ASK ANY QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE

SOME GOING TO USE THIS. >> I THINK YOUR CATEGORIES ARE SOLD BUT THE QUESTION IS HOW SPECIFIC DO YOU BELIEVE OR IS THE STATE ASKING US TO BE. WE NEED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC IN OUR REQUEST WE MIGHT NEED TO DRILL DOWN A LITTLE MORE. THESECATEGORIES ARE ENOUGH .

>>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T KNOW. WHEN WE FINISHED THE MEETING OFF TO WORK WITH BELINDA TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS. WROTE DOWN A FEW THINGS THAT ARE SUPER SPECIFIC THEY CAME OUT OF OUR MEETINGS BETWEEN ONE OF THEM WAS WATER DISTRICT, TXDOT WATER DISTRICT NUMBER THREE.

THE $3.8 MILLION FOR THE BOOSTER PUMP STATION. SHERIFF ACADEMY TRAINING CENTER A SHOOTING RANGE, A COMMAND CENTER. WE NEED AN EEOC CENTER FROM

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INTERCOM. BISHOP HAVE A NICE LIST AND I DON'T HAVE THOSE MEMORIZED.

BUT THEY WERE ALL WATER, ALL WATER RELATED. I AM EVEN GOING TO PUT ON TOXICOLOGY LAB. THAT IS UNDER HEALTH. MANY MENTAL HEALTH INITIATIVES AND THE DIVERSION CENTER. ALL OF THESE THINGS HAVE TO HAVE A DOLLAR AND WILL HAVE TO DO SOME GUEST WORK. REMEMBER WE ARE ASKING FOR MONEY SO WHATEVER WEEK IT WOULD

BE INCREDIBLY WELCOME. >> THE MAIN THREE THERE IS DRAINAGE, MENTAL HEALTH AND

PARKS. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES. IN'S AND OUT'S ALSO SAID THE LAW ENFORCEMENT INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE ONE FOURTH. I AM EVEN GOING TO THROW IN COASTAL RESILIENCY BY PAUL PIERRE. I AM NOT GOING TO SAY BOB PAUL PER SE PROBLEMS IN COASTAL INFRASTRUCTURE SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT CAME UP AS WELL.

>> AGAIN.HIS IS NOT FOR THE MONEY WE HAVE ALREADY. THIS IS THE MONEY WERE TRYING

TO GET FROM THE STATE FROM THEIR PORTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS CORRECT. BUT THIS RIGHT HERE WAS THE PEOPLE'S RESPONSE TO THE MONEY

THAT WE RECEIVED. >> I GOT AND CONGRESSMAN SHARON THE SAME PAGE.

THE QUESTION WOULD BE, WITH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE HAVE ANY INPUT ON THIS REQUEST IN THE SENSE THAT THERE'S ONLY CERTAIN THINGS OF THIS MONEY CAN GO FORWARD AGAIN I AM NOT TRYING TO PUT SOMEONE ON THE SPOT. I DON'T KNOW IF THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE HAS.

>> THERE ARE SOME RESTRICTIONS FOR KEEPING MONEY ALLOCATION TO NONPROFIT OF BUSINESSES.

I AM EXPECTING THAT HAGERTY CAN PROVIDE THAT TO THE COURT. THEY WILL STILL BE RESPONSIBLE.

[20. Discuss and consider the use of American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) for purposes of Nueces County employee raises, including hazard pay and other related matters.]

THE COUNTY IS STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MONEY AND THE COUNTY NEEDS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FUNDS THAT WE GIVE TO THE BUSINESSES AND NONPROFITS THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE THE SAME PURPOSE. SO IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE. BUT HAGERTY SHOULD EXTEND THAT

IN THE TEMPERATE WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY INPUT. >> IS ABLE TO TRACK THE MONEY?

>> JUST LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE GET DOWN THAT ROAD YOU ARE RIGHT.

HAGERTY, HAS, FOR STARTERS THE ACT IS EXPLICIT THAT NONPROFITS ARE RECIPIENTS.

AS WELL AS SMALL BUSINESSES. EVEN, YOU WILL REMEMBER WELL, WE CAN GET INTO IN ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM. BUT YES, HAGERTY IS DEFINITELY BETTING ALL OF THE ELIGIBILITY.

WE ARE NOT THERE YET. I AM JUST LOOKING FOR CATEGORIES THAT WE CAN ALL AGREE ON THAT WERE CAPTURED HERE. I AM USING THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET YOUR INPUT ON THE CATEGORIES BECAUSE THEY ARE IN FRONT OF US TODAY.

>> CAN I ADD SOMETHING TO THAT POINT? IN THE MEMO WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER FOR THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE. IT INCLUDES ALL OF THE PROJECT CATEGORIES. THE CATEGORIES LISTED HERE FOR JUST THE TOP THREE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: GOT IT. SO THE MEMO INCLUDES ALL THE CATEGORIES THAT WERE MENTIONED TO INCLUDE YOUR UNITED WAY PROJECT AND THEN ALL THE OTHER CATEGORIES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS AND THE COMMISSIONERS AS WELL.

IT CAPTURES ALL OF NUECES COUNTY AND DOLLARS, OR WE HAVE THEM.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT MAKES SENSE. THIS IS A WISH LIST, RIGHT.

IT'S A WISH LIST BUT TRUST ME. WE HAVE THE $70 MILLION YOU WERE VERY UPFRONT, WERE WE ARE NOT HAGERTY AND WE SAID THE COURT MADE SOME DECISIONS WITHOUT YOU.

IT FELT LIKE THE WHOLE COMMUNITY HAD COME TOGETHER IN THE CENTRAL JURY ROOM.

I AM SORRY IN A STRANGE WAY THAT WE DO NOT RECORD IT. I HOPE THAT I NEVER FORGET IT BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT UNEXPECTED MOMENTS THAT I HAVE HAD IN THE LAST TWO AND HALF YEARS HERE. IT WAS THAT GOOD. COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ WAS THERE. AND SO MY POINT IS THAT, THEY WANTED TO KNOW HOW WE WERE GOING TO SPEND THE DOLLARS AND THEY WANT TO HAVE INPUT BUT I SHARED WITH THEM, HEY GUYS, WE DIDN'T ASK YOU BUT WE ARE ELECTED TO HELP MAKE THESE DECISIONS AND WE SPENT $10 MILLION WITHOUT YOU AND THEY WERE FINE WITH THAT. WE TOLD THEM ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES AND THE PREMIUM PAY. WE DISCLOSED ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT WE HAVE DESIGNATED FOR THE AMERICAN RELIEF PLAN ACT TO ASSIST AND WE SHARED WITH THEM THE JUSTIFICATIONS.HEY REALLY APPRECIATED THAT. AND WE SAID OKAY BUT NOW WE HAVE $60 MILLION LEFT AND HOW DO WE TAKE CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY NOW.

THAT IS WHERE THIS DOCUMENT GOT CAPTURED. AND WE ALSO DID THAT.

TO ALL THE POLITICAL JURISDICTIONS AND WE GOT AMAZING FEEDBACK AND WHAT

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HAGERTY IS DOING RIGHT NOW IS PUTTING IT INTO A DOCUMENT THAT YOU CAN GET.

THEY ALSO SENT A SURVEY TO HELP WITH DOING TO TELL EVERYBODY WHAT YOU DID WITH THE SURVEY?

EVERYBODY WHO ATTENDED GOT A SURVEY. >> AND I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

>> WE DEVELOPED THREE SEPARATE SURVEYS BUT WANT TO SEND UP AFTER THE CITY AND TOWN MEETING, ONE AFTER THE BUSINESS NONPROFIT AND THEN ANOTHER FOR THOSE WHO ATTENDED THE COMMUNITY MEMBER EVENT. WE ARE LOOKING THROUGH THOSE RESULTS RIGHT NOW.

WE HAD FIVE SURVEY RESPONSES FOR THE CITY AND TOWN OFFICIALS WHICH IS ABOUT HALF.

THOSE WHO ATTENDED. WE ALSO HAD 17 RESPONSES FROM THE BUSINESS AND NONPROFIT GROUP AND THEY PUT IN SOME REALLY THOUGHTFUL RESPONSES. THEY PUT ALL THE PROJECT PRIORITIES DOWN AND THE HIGHLIGHTED OF THE COURSE PRIORITIES WHICH ONES ARE MORE IMPORTANT TO THEM. AND WE ARE STILL LOOKING THROUGH THOSE RESULTS NOW.

WE CAN INCLUDE ANY ADDITIONAL PROJECT CATEGORIES THAT WE IDENTIFY THROUGH THE SURVEY IN

THAT MEMO AS WELL. >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HAS A QUESTION AND THEN I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU MENTIONEDTHAT WE ALSO HAVE, JUST LIKE WE DID WITH BOB PAUL . FRUIT RIVER COMMUNITY SURVEY. SO WHEN THE COURT MAKES A DECISION ON HOW TO SPEND THE REST OF THE MONEY. YOU HONESTLY HAVE THE ULTIMATE BUT YOU LITERALLY HAVE EVERY INPUT FROM EVERY STAKEHOLDER. NO ONE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO

SAY THAT YOU DIDN'T ASK. >> THAT IS GOOD. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS HAPPENING NEXT AND THERE IS A SERIES OF QUESTIONS HAS BEEN DEVELOPED LIKE BOB HOLBERT IS NOT TOO LONG BUT IS NOT TOO SHORT AND IT GIVES ENOUGH MEAT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN CHOOSE THE CATEGORIES THAT THEY THINK ARE IMPORTANT BUT THEN IT GIVES AN OPEN BLANK FOR PEOPLE TO JUST, IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE A CATEGORY THEY CAN WRITE IS LIKELY TO INVOLVE HOLBERT COMMISSIONER.

>> WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED IN THIS BUT DO WE HAVE TO TELL THEM NOW WHO WILL TRACK THE MONEY AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF?

>> NO. THEY JUST WANT A LIST. >> OKAY BECAUSE AT SOME POINT HAGERTY WILL GET WITH, I THINK WE JUST APPROVED HIRING SOMEONE ON THE OTHER MONEY TO WATCH THAT MONEY BUT I DON'T WANT TO COUNT OUR CHICKENS BY ANY MEANS BUT OBVIOUSLY THE HOPE WOULD BE THAT THIS WOULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE PERSON

THAT WE JUST HIRED WOULD BE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK THEY CAN DO IT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THE CPA WE APPROVED YESTERDAY. THE QUESTION IS, THEY ARE THERE

TO ASSIST US WITH THE OUTSIDE, THE OUTSIDE AUDITOR. >> THAT IS RIGHT.

WE HAVE THAT COMPANY. THE MAIN POINT TO HAVE THIS COMPANY IS THAT WE HAVE A PLAN.

THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO SPEND. WE WANT TO PROVIDE THAT TO THEM AND THEN THEY WILL SAY YES IT COMPLIES WITH THE ACT AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WILL MAKE THEM AWARE OF.

YOU GO THIS WAY IT WILL HAPPEN. IF YOU WANT TO GIVE MANAGEMENT WAYS THEN THE HAZARD PAY AND THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE OTHER SIDE. ALSO YEAR TO PAY MORE TAXES AND IT WILL LEAD TO THIS KIND OF STUFF.THE COUNTY NEEDS TO KNOW.

AND ACCORDING TO KNOW. AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO CLARIFY BECAUSE WE HAVE POSITIONS. IN THE DAS AND WE HAD THE COUNTY ATTORNEY POSITIONS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: MELISSA IS GOING TO STOP YOU. WE ARE GOING TO BRING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO.

WE WILL TALK ABOUT ALL OF THOSE BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT. THERE IS A LOT OF --

>>COMMISSIONER: INNUENDOS. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES BUT WE PREFACED IT THAT WAY THAT IS WHY SENT TO START IN JANUARY. THERE IS A LOT OF BELLS AND WHISTLES AND A LOT OF RULES TO COMPLY WITH. WE HAVE KIND OF GONE OUT THERE ON A LIMB AND SAID, HEY, WE WANT TO DO THIS AND THAT IS THE SPIRIT OF IT. NOW WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW

TO MAKE CERTAIN IT SEEMS THE ELIGIBILITY. >>COMMISSIONER: MAKE IT RIGHT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: AS I MENTIONED THERE'S A $25,000 RULE AND AN HOURLY ROLE.

WE WILL DISCUSS THAT AT SOME POINT AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK AND TELL EVERYBODY WHAT THE RULES ARE. LET MELISSA KIND OF BRIEF YOU ALONG WITH THEM ON THE RULES

TRULY. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

BUT I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT COLLIER JOHNSON, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WILL BE IN CHARGE OF ALL OUR, OUTSIDE AUDITORS. BILLIKEN AUDITOR FOR THE PROJECT THEY WILL WORK WITH OUR AUDITOR BRING THEM BACK HOME. THIS FOCUS IS PROFESSIONALS IN THAT REGARD.

YOU MIGHT SAY THEY ARE ALSO CONSULTANTS. IT TURNS OUT YOU NEED PEOPLE THE WORD CONSULTANT IS, I DON'T MEAN TO MAKE YOU LAUGH COMMISSIONER BUT I DO SO TO POINT OUT THAT YOU NEED SMART PEOPLE. IT'S JUST THE WAY IT WORKS.

THE WORLD WORKS THIS WAY AND THE MORE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT HAPPENED TO YOU, ASK ANY

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BUSINESSPERSON THAT STARTED THEIR LITTLE COMPANY WITH TWO PEOPLE AND THEN IT TURNS OUT TO BE 100. YOU SPEND MORE MONEY BECAUSE THAT IS THE WAY OF THE BUSINESS WORLD.>JUDGE CANALES: LADIES, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD JUST STICK AROUND AS THEY SAID. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ONLINE BUT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND THEN COME BACK. IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THAT I NEED A FEW MORE AGENDA ITEMS

AND THEN WE WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS

NOT ON THE LIST. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS CORRECT.

BASICALLY TOOK THE TOP THREE CATEGORIES. >> THE THING WE TALKED ABOUT A

LOT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE HIS SALTWATER.>>JUDGE CANALES: YES.

THIS IS THE LIST FROM THE PEOPLE AND NOT POWERLESS BUT REMEMBER.

WE WILL HAVE TO COMBINE IT ALL. THIS IS JUST FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS.

YEP. OKAY LADIES. >> THE PRIORITIES WE DISCUSSED IN OUR MEETINGS, COMMISSIONER IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE MEMO AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU MA'AM.>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS NICE. >> WE WILL EMAIL THE COMMISSIONERS TODAY I CONSENT TO INVITE THEM TO THE NEXT MEETING BUT ALSO TO FOLLOW-UP TO ASK IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL PRIORITIES THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE ARE INCLUDED IN THAT MEMO. SO KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR A EMAIL AND WILL MOST LIKELY COME FROM ME RACHEL. AND WITH THAT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BUT WE CAN BE AVAILABLE IF YOU NEED US TO HOP BACK ON JUDGES LET US KNOW.

>> RACHEL. I THINK I TALKED TO YOU AND THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND I KNOW YOU WROTE THEM DOWN. IS THERE ANYTHING IN THERE WHEN WE TALK AGAIN THEY CAN SAY THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A GOOD IDEA OR THIS WILL BE AN ITEM WE CAN'T REALLY SAY WILL GO OR NOT? I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT A CERTAIN LIST THAT I GAVE YOU

GUYS. >> YES. WE CAPTURED ALL OF YOUR IDEAS UNLESS THEY WERE OUTSIDE OF DRAINAGE. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN PICKED UP IN THE IDEA HE GAVE US ON THE ONE ON ONE ZOOM CALL THAT WE HAD A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO ARE GOING

TO BE CAPTURED ON THE MEMO. >>JUDGE CANALES: IS GOING TO BE SUPER IMPORTANT THAT AS AS SOON AS YOU CAN FINISH THAT MEMO TO GET IT TO TYNER, MELINDA AND PLEASE THAT WAY THEY CAN GET IT TO EVERYBODY. THEN YOU GUYS CAN ADD. JUST REMEMBER THAT WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO IS GET THE SENATOR, AGAIN THE SENATE IS WORKING IN THEIR OWN DEAL.

THEY WANT STUFF FAST. THAT IS THE URGENCY OF THE MATTER.

OKAY. THANK YOU LADIES. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

>>JUDGE CANALES: YOU BET. YOU BET. HERE IS WHERE I AM MOVING.

I NEED TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER FOUR FROM YESTERDAY. CHRIS WE HAVE SOME MAYBE GOOD

DEVELOPMENTS THERE.> WHICH ONE JUDGE? >>JUDGE CANALES: ITEM NUMBER

FOUR. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE REGULAR? >>JUDGE CANALES: ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.HAT ONE WAS NOT TACKLED YESTERDAY. I WILL JUST SECOND IT THEN KARA. IT DOES NOT MATTER HOWEVER YOU WANT IT.

>>COMMISSIONER: JUDGE, BEFORE YOU, HAVE A QUESTION. SOMEONE TEXTED ME AND SAID THEY HEARD THE HARBOR BRIDGE IS GOING TO BE CLOSED FOR CONSTRUCTION.

RIGHT AWAY AND BEING A LITTLE TRIMMING. WE HAVE INFORMATION ON THAT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT DID YOU HEAR THAT? >>COMMISSIONER: SOMEONE SAID

THE HARBOR BRIDGE WILL BE CLOSED FOR CONSTRUCTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: LIKE TODAY?

THREE LIKE TOMORROW. I DON'T KNOW IT'S A QUESTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM NOT ON

EMAIL YET. >>COMMISSIONER: THAT IS FINE. I TAKE IT BACK.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IS NOTHING HARD TO ASK AROUND. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST TEXT:

DAY. [INAUDIBLE] >>JUDGE CANALES: LET ME DO THE VOTE REAL QUICK. JUST WAIT ONE SECOND FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S PERSPECTIVE

AND LETME HELP 22ND . >> SORRY JUAN, MY BAD.>>JUDGE CANALES: IT WAS WELL INTENDED COMMISSIONER. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE. >> POST AND SIGN. THUS THAT ONE.

AND BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT THERE AND WE JUST SET IT. LET ME REOPEN PUBLIC COMMENT FOR JUST A MOMENT. AND IN PUBLIC COMMENT YOU MENTIONED THAT WE HAD A NEW ENGINEER.SINCE THIS IS A RECESS FROM YESTERDAY I WILL REOPEN PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE LIMITED PURPOSE OF YOU ACTUALLY INTRODUCING THE PERSON THAT YOU MENTIONED YESTERDAY.

>> THANK YOU JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. GEORGE AND COMMISSIONERS, LJ FRANCIS IS OUR NEW MECHANICAL ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER. I AM GOING TO KIND OF LET HIM

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TALK ABOUT HIS BACKGROUND. >> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON NOW.OOD AFTERNOON JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS BUT LJ FRANCIS HERE AND IT'S GOOD TO BE ON STAFF WITH MR. PIMENTO. MY EXPERIENCE, CLOSER. OKAY.

I HAVE BEEN WORKING IN MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT FOR ABOUT NINE YEARS AND STARTED IN TAMPA FLORIDA. IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND NOW I AM BACK AT THE COUNTY.IS THAT THE CITY FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS IN ON HERE AT THE COUNTY. I HAVE A BACHELORS AND MASTERS IN CIVIL AND ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING AND AM ALSO WORKING ON MY PHD IN ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING. IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE AND I THINK I STARTED TO MEET ALL THE COMMISSIONERS ALREADY AND AM LOOKING FORWARD TO MEET YOU. I THINK I HAVEN'T GOT AROUND TO MAKE COMMISSIONER TESTING YET. HOPE TO SEE YOU SOON. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: WELCOME ABOARD.

ABSOLUTE POSTED. THANK YOU FOR THAT AND WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME OF THE SAID PRINT ISSUES FOR THE LIMITED PURPOSE. AND THERE ARE STILL TWO OTHER ITEMS ON THE REGULAR AGENDA. THAT ARE AT LEAST ON THAT SIDE OF IT THEN WE HAVE AUDITOR AND HUMAN RESOURCES. WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE WAYS TO GO.

AND I AM MINDFUL THAT YESTERDAY I THINK I WENT ALL DAY WITH ONE SALTINE CRACKERS SO AT SOME POINT WE WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK. BUT IT WOULD BE NICE MAYBE JUST TO RUN THROUGH THE AUDITORS PIECE OF IT VERY QUICKLY. WE'VE ALL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THOSE THREE ITEMS NOW FOR TWO DAYS. AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BUT I WANT YOU TO GO THROUGH THEM. THEN I WILL TRY TO SKIP BACK SOME OF THE REGULAR AGENDAS AND THAT WAY IT KIND OF GETS US INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PER WEEK AND EAT AND BRING ALL THOSE ARPA ITEMS IN AND REALLY GUESSES TOO MUCH BETTER PLACE.

I THINK WE CAN EVEN BRING THE HUMAN RESOURCES ONE INTO EXECUTIVE BECAUSE IT IS DEALING WITH PERSONNEL. NO? ALL I AM SAYING IS AS MUCH AS

WE CAN DO IN EXECUTIVE, WE WILL. >> I DON'T THINK WE CAN JUDGE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHT. WHILE THEN WE WILL WORK WITH. YES?

COULD YOU GET TO THE MIC? >> ONLY HAVE TWO AGENDA ITEMS. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL DO YOU NEXT. I PROMISE. YOU HAVE NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO. GIVE ME ONE SECOND. I PROMISED TO LET HER GO AND

[1. Approve Budget Change Order No. 21 for Fiscal Year 2020-2021.]

THEN YOU WILL BE AN EXPERT TO AHEAD IS POTTAGE CHANGE ITEM 21 D1.

IF YOU WOULD MOVE YOUR NOTEBOOKS TO T-1. >> THIS IS NUMBER 21 AND IS RELOCATION OF FUNDS THAT WE HAVE. FOR OFFICE EXPENSES AND PAY FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THIS IS RELATED TO AN EMPLOYEE WHO RETIRED.

ALSO WE HAVE MADE REPAIRS THAT IS RELATED AND WE HAVE DEPARTMENT 1900 WE HAVE SOME EXPENSES THERE THE OFFICE EXPENSES. AND BASICALLY THINK THE BIG ONE, IS NORMAL TO SEE NUMBER FIVE BUT IT IS NORMAL AND WE ALWAYS HAVE THE COUNTY EXPENSES. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THIS NUMBER 21.

>>JUDGE CANALES: JUST SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT IS WHAT WE CALL THE APPOINTED ATTORNEY FEES BUT THEY ARE VERY LARGE AT 234,000 BUT AS SHE SAYS THIS IS PAR FOR THE COURSE ON THE COUNTY CORNER LOT NUMBER FIVE. ALWAYS LARGE BUT NEVER SURPRISING.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NOT ONLY TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE BUDGET CHANGE

ORDER NUMBER 21 AND IS HER SECOND? >> SECOND.

[2. Approve Capital Project Budget Change Order No. 100.]

>>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: HOW ABOUT THE BUDGET FOR THIS IS THE CAPITAL. >> AYE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: BACK IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET NUMBER 100 ITEM NUMBER TWO.

>> THIS IS FOR THE 100. IT'S FOR WHAT WE DISCUSSED BRIEFLY IN COURT.

AS HAVE ONE THAT I NEEDED TO PULL BECAUSE IT'S RELATED TO IRREGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ARE BUT IT WAS SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT AND THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT

IS JUST ON HOLD, THE ITEM, FOR ONE OF THE CHANGE ORDERS. >> WHICH ONE?

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>>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK IT'S TWO OR. HVAC.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT ONE YET. >> I JUST NEED TO HOLD THAT

ONE, >> JUST HOLD THAT ONE UNTIL I DO THAT ONE AND THEN YOU CAN COME BACK. WE WILL JUST HOLD THAT ONE FOR SECOND.

HOW ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE GUYS? O YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HER? YOU WILL NOTICE ALL THE UNTIL LOCATED MONIES HAVE BEEN MOVED OVER AND THAT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE. TRESA MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT WE HAVE TO GET UP ON THIS MIKE.

THUS THE 480,000 FOR THE 2021 CEOS. >> THE CHANGE ORDER FOR THE

FAIRGROUNDS IS ON CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 21. >> IS THE ONE WE JUST APPROVED WE ARE TO GO BY AND AND ACCEPTED I SHOULD NOT HAVE BROUGHT IT UP.

>> OUT TWO INCHES A SECOND. >> .THIS ONE FIRST PERIOD. >> I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT WHAT I THOUGHT WERE HIGHLIGHTS IN THIS PARTICULAR ONE. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

THIS IS ALL THE CAPITAL. THE BIG CAPITAL. >> WE DISCUSSED THE FUNDS HERE

IN COURT. >>JUDGE CANALES: IF NOT I WILL LOOK FOR THAT MOTION.

THIS IS A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BUDGET CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 100. I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE. >>JUDGE CANALES: NOW I WILL GO BACK BECAUSE THE CAP.

THE BUDGET CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 21 HAS THE HVAC. LET'S AMEND THAT MOTION TO EXCLUDE THAT TEMPORARILY PENDING OUR APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL.

CAN I HAVE THAT MOTION? >> SO MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: A SECOND?

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU JOHN AND WE WILL GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. SHORTLY YOU WILL HEAR IT FOR

[3. Approve Monthly Financial Report for the month of June 2021.]

YOURSELF AND PEOPLE COME BACK TO REMIND ME THAT WE WILL NEED TO APPROVE IT IN THE CHANGE ORDER. THEN OF COURSE WE ALWAYS DO OUR MONTHLY'S AND WE ARE CATCHING UP FINALLY AND IT FEELS GOOD. WE ARE AT JUNE. THAT IS HAVE THREE.

>> WE CAN GO TO PAGE NUMBER 16. WE WILL JUST HIGHLIGHT THE MAIN POINTS HERE.

SEE ON THE TAXES IS THE MAIN FUNDING SOURCE OF THE COUNTY. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE LOOK FOR

98. >> YOU COMPARE THE BOTTOM AND SAYS HOW TO DO THE COMPARISON

AND IT IS TWO PERCENT UP. IT'S PRETTY GOOD. >> I AM REALLY PLEASED WITH THAT. ANYTHING ELSE WE SHOULD HIGHLIGHT?

>> PAGE NUMBER 61. THIS IS GOOD, TO PUT IN SEE IN THE GENERAL FUND WE SHOULD BE RIGHT NOW AT 25 PERCENT REMAINING IN THE BUDGET. YOU SEE IN THE BOTTOM WE HAVE

36.7 PERCENT. WE ARE DOING A GOOD JOB. >>JUDGE CANALES: DON'T JINX IT.

>> THIS IS JUST JUNE BUT AS A REMINDER. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT IS SO

GREAT. >> AGAIN REMIND THE COURT PAGE 80 PLEASE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: NUMBER 80. OKAY. >> WE HAD TO PRINT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE DID SOME GOOD YESTERDAY. >> WE DID GREAT BUT WE STILL

HAVE SOME REMAINING. THE 2016 CEOS IS STILL THERE. >> I SPENT MINE YESTERDAY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I SAID I THINK WE DID SOME GOOD YESTERDAY. I THINK THE POINT SHE IS MAKING

IS THAT THOSE NEED TO GO. THAT IS A TAX SITUATION. >> NOW I CAN SAY, EVERYBODY

SPENT YOUR MONEY. COME ON. >>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT.

TO BE HONEST WITH YOU YOU SHOULD TAKE COMMISSIONER GONZALES UP.

HE OFFERED MONEY AND YOU KNOW YOU HAVE FOR ITEMS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN INSPECTED GET COST ESTIMATES FROM SCOTT MEARS. IF YOU HAVE 2016'S, I AM SURE WHEN HE NEEDS MONEY YOU WILL

HELP HIM. >> ABSOLUTELY. I WAS OF EVERYBODY I CAN.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS IMPORTANT. >> YES.

ALWAYS REMINDING EVERYBODY THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS THE MONEY HAS TO BE SPENT IN THREE

YEARS. DO THE MATH. >> I WILL VOLUNTEER TO GIVE YOU

50. >> DO WHAT? >>JUDGE CANALES: FOR THE NEXT

ROUND, >> FROM A 2016. >> THAT IS VERY KIND.

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>> ALSO. >> I WILL TAKE IT. THANK YOU AND PLEASE SOMEONE

MARKET RIGHT NOW. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE ARE RECORDING.

WE ARE RECORDING. JUST SO YOU KNOW. BUT SCOTT CROSS HE IS ON THE LINE. BUT REALLY, SCOTT, BUT WE JUST HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE IS THAT IF YOU WILL GET COST ESTIMATES ON SOME OF THOSE UNKNOWNS CRITICALLY THAT BY NEXT COURTNEY HAVE TWO COMMISSIONERS THAT BELIEVE IN THE COAST AS WELL AS THE

COUNTRY AND THEY WILL HELP. >> I TOLD HIM TO GIVE ME A ROAD.

>> IS AN AMAZING, THE SPIRITED COOPERATION. >> ARGUE JUMPING IN?

I DON'T GET ANYTHING. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE GOODWILL THERAPY

CONTROL. >> WE HAVE LOTS OF COOPERATION WITH COMMISSIONER MAREZ.> IT'S GREAT BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW YOU NEED TO USE IT BUT WE CAN USE IT FOR THAT PURPOSE

AND THAT IS FINE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM JUST ENJOYING THIS TEAM THAT I SEE.

>> I WILL DO WHAT I CAN. >>JUDGE CANALES: SCOTT. OKAY SCOTT, SOUNDS GOOD.

ALL RIGHT THE POINT IS MADE LIGHTHEARTEDLY BUT IT'S A VERY SERIOUS APPOINTMENT THE 2016, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW HOW TO SPEND IT, PICK UP A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

IT IS NOTHARD TO SPEND AND TO INVEST . THE PROJECTS ARE THERE.OOK TO SEE WHICH ONE YOU THINK BEST FITS YOUR CONSTITUENCY AND OR THIS COUNTY.

THERE ARE LOTS OF GOOD ONES. AND SHE WILL MAYBE GET AN UPDATE SINCE WE DID DO SOME GOOD YESTERDAY. GO AHEAD AND UPDATE THAT ONE BECAUSE IT IS WORTH IT.

THAT WAS 250,000. THAT IS A LOT OFF THE 2016'S. OR WHATEVER IT WAS.220.

>> 179 TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. IS THEREANYTHING ELSE?

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ? >> A MOTION TO APPROVE. >>JUDGE CANALES: ARE YOU DONE WITH THAT? SHE IS DONE. MOTION TO APPROVE.

AND SECOND. OKAY. AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY

BY SAYING I. >> AYE. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE HAVE THOSE PROJECTS DONE THERE. I AM GOING TO GO BACK TO THE PURCHASING.

[1. Discuss and consider approval of a Supplemental Agreement No. 2 between Nueces County and CLK Architects & Associates, Inc. for the Nueces County ADA Modifications Project.]

WHILE IT WAS PUBLIC OR SOMETHING. >>COMMISSIONER: I AM SORRY THAT

IS WHAT I MEANT TO SAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: PUBLIC WORKS AND JUAN YOU HAVE TO ITEMS YOU SAY. ONE OF HIS CLK ARCHITECTS & ASSOCIATES ITEM NUMBER ONE ON

B. >> ,SEE SOMETHING REAL QUICK? THE HARBOR BRIDGE THERE ARE NO

CLOSURES. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: CAN YOU ADDRESS ITEM NUMBER ONE WHICH IS BASICALLY WORKING ON NUECES COUNTY 88 MODIFICATIONS

PROJECT. >> THE INSTRUCTION COMMISSIONERS THIS IS THE TIME ON THE NUECES COUNTY 88 PROJECT. WE ARE EXTENDING THE PROJECT FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS BUT IT ENDS SEPTEMBER 30 21 AND WERE EXTENDING IT UNTIL SEPTEMBER

30, 2023.>JUDGE CANALES: SAID THEY CAN BASICALLY FINISH. >> IS MAN.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IS JUST AN EXTENSION OF TIME. >> YES NO COST.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.LL THIS IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. >> AYE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I HAVE TO REMEMBER TO PAUSE KARA, BECAUSE THERE'S A DELAY BUT IF YOU CAN

[2. Discuss and consider selection of Govind Development, LLC for Engineering Services related to the design of the Nueces County Courthouse and Jail Facilities Roof Replacement Project; or alternatively, approve method of procurement (request for qualifications) for Engineering Services for design of Nueces County Courthouse and Jail Facilities Roof Replacement Project; authorize the Purchasing Agent to publish a notice; and approve an order delegating evaluation authority to a selection committee.]

HELP ME SAY BY SAYING WAIT A MINUTE. >>> JUAN, THIS NEXT ONE INVOLVES THE CONSIDERATION OF AN ENGINEERING PROCUREMENT FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES REGARDING THE COURTHOUSE AND JAIL FACILITIES ROOF REPLACEMENT PROJECT.

AND MICHAEL WAS HERE BUT I THINK HE HAS GONE. I THINK THIS IS A DIRECT SELECT AND IT ALSO HAS A COMBO OF EITHER SELECTING SOMEBODY OR APPROVING A METHOD OF PROCUREMENT WHICH WOULD BE AN RFQ BECAUSE IT IS ENGINEERING. TO DO THIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF, OSCAR IS ON THE LINE. GOOD, MAYBE HE CAN ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS. WOULD YOU AT LEAST TSL. I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU ABOUT HOW THIS CAME TO BE BECAUSE I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURAL NATURE OF THIS WORK. I WANT TO HEAR YOUR PERSPECTIVE HERE.

>> YES, MA'AM. THE JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS AND PUBLIC WORKS IS RECOMMENDING THE SELECTION OF GOVIND DEVELOPMENT FOR THE DESIGN OF THE, PUBLIC WORKS IS CONCERNED

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THE SELECTION OF GOVIND DEVELOPMENT FOR THE DESIGN OF NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND JAIL FACILITY ROOF REPLACEMENT PROJECT. RECOGNITION FROM PUBLIC WORKS.

WE HAVE TALKED TO GOVIND DEVELOPMENT AND THEY HAVE AN ARCHITECT THAT WILL BE PART OF THEIR TEAM. PUBLIC WORKS IS REMAINING GOVIND DEVELOPMENT AND

ASSOCIATES. >>JUDGE CANALES: HAVE THEY EVER DONE, OSCAR, DO YOU MIND IF WE COULD TALK TO OSCAR ABOUT THIS. HE IS HERE REPRESENTING GOVIND DEVELOPMENT.

>> I AM HERE AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. >>JUDGE CANALES: I OSCAR IN GOOD TO SEE YOU. OSCAR, WE ALL KNOW WHAT A GREAT OUTFIT GOVIND DEVELOPMENT IS IN THE INDUSTRIAL SPACE. I WANT YOU TO SHARE WITH THE COURT.

THIS PARTICULAR JOB, IN MY MIND WAS MORE ARCHITECTURAL THAN IT WAS ENGINEERING.

ALTHOUGH WE CALL IT ENGINEERING SERVICES. THE ROOF DESIGN IS AN ARCHITECTURAL SITUATION. TELL ME WHAT YOU ARE THINKING HERE AND WITH THE BACKGROUND IS AND WHETHER YOU GUYS HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE. BECAUSE THIS ONE, HONESTLY, COMES OUT OF LEFT FIELD. WE WERE GOING TO DO AN RFQ AND THAT WAS THE INTENT.

TELL US WHAT YOU THINK YOU ARE SUITED FOR THIS JOB. >> A FAIR QUESTION JUDGMENT THANK YOU FOR ASKING IT. I THINK THE MOST OBVIOUS ANSWER IS THAT THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT WILL REQUIRE BOTH. BY THAT I MEAN THERE IS GOING TO BE AND I SHOULD SAY ALSO THAT THE FIRM IS A SUBCONTRACTOR WHICH HAS EXTENSIVE ARCHITECTURAL EXPERIENCE FOR OVER 50 YEARS. AND BEYOND THAT WE WILL REQUIRE ENGINEERING SERVICES TO CONDUCT WINDSTORM CERTIFICATION WHICH REQUIRES THE EXPERTISE OF A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER.

WE ARE GOING TO SUPPORT THE COUNTY AND SERVING AS A PROJECT MANAGER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE EXPECTATIONS CAN RELATE TO US BY PUBLIC WORKS ARE ACCOMPLISHED IN THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT. FINALLY, AND THIS IS JUST MY OPINION AND LET'S WE WILL CLEAR. ENGINEERING AND DEEPLY INVOLVED IN ENGINEERING, IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF THIS PROJECT. AN ARCHITECT MAY REQUIRE SOME STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING SUPPORT AND WE CAN OFFER SUPPORT THEM IN THE PRACTICAL PART OF THE DESIGN.HE PROJECT IS HANDLING ENGAGING ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES.

WE ARE THERE TO PROVIDE THE WINDSTORM CERTIFICATION, THE OVERALL PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND TO EXECUTE AS THE COUNTY WISHES AND PROVIDE ANY STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING FOR THE PROOF .

>>JUDGE CANALES: YEAH AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I AM JUST CURIOUS WHAT YOUR

PLAN IS TO BASICALLY BRING ON SO GOT TO HELP YOU HERE. >> IS MA'AM.

>> MY CONCERN IS, WHY WOULD YOU HAVE BROUGHT ON RICK DIRKSEN THEY ARE ALREADY DEEPLY INVOLVED WITH THE COURTHOUSE IN THE EXTERIOR FACIA. WAS THAT NOT, THAT WAS THE CONTEMPLATION OF HOW WE WERE GOING TO WORK WITH THIS BUT HOW DID THAT CHANGE? I AM NOT SURE HOW ALL THIS CAME ABOUT BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY THE RFQ PROCESS WAS NOT FOLLOWED JUAN. THIS IS WHERE WE GET INTO SOME REAL JERKINESS.

WITH THE FACT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AN ARCHITECT. ARE WE GOING TO BASICALLY HAVE AN ARCHITECT WORKING WITH ANOTHER ARCHITECT? BECAUSE IT'S ALL RELATED.

HE MENTIONED SOMETHING THAT ALSO CONCERNS ME OSCAR WHICH IS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE A PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE COURTHOUSE. YOU CANNOT SERVE AS, THE FOX CANNOT GUARD THE HEN HOUSE.

IF YOU ARE DOING ENGINEERING SERVICES IT CAN BE YOUR OWN PROGRAM MANAGER.

YOU ARE TO BE THE ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEER BUT YOU CANNOT BE BOTH.

THE PROGRAM MANAGER IS DIFFERENT FROM THE PROJECT MANAGER.

>> AND THE PROJECT MANAGERS WHAT I WOULD SURPASS. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY THAT IS DIFFERENT. I AM SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU SAID PROGRAM.

>> IF I DID THEN THAT WAS MY MISTAKE. >>JUDGE CANALES: NO WORRIES.

>> JUDGE, I AM SORRY BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL BE HELPFUL BUT THERE IS ACTUALLY A STATUTE FOR THIS TYPE OF A PROJECT THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN ARCHITECT ON IT.

I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT IS STATUTORILY REQUIRED HIS OF THE JOE PORTION OF THE PROJECT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT. OKAY. SO THE ARCHITECT COMPONENT IS A

MUST. >> YES.>>COMMISSIONER: THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS THEY CANNOT PINPOINT AND USE RICHTER, RIGHT? AM ASKING OSCAR.

CAN YOU PINPOINT AND USE RICHTER AS AN ARCHITECT? >> WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE

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ARCHITECTS AND WE HAVE A LONG-STANDING RELATIONSHIP WITH RICK PARNELL.

WE WENT HONESTLY CONSIDER THE WISHES OF NUECES COUNTY IF THEY WANTED US TO USE ONE ARCHITECT

OVER ANOTHER. >> I DON'T WANT IT TO COME ACROSS AS A PREFERENCE.

I THINK THE JUDGE'S WHETHER WE HAVE AN ARCHITECT THAT IS DOING ALL THIS WORK ON THE COURTHOUSE. I DO AGREE WITH THAT CONCEPT THAT WE OUGHT TO STICK WITH THAT ARCHITECT. I ALSO DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SELECTING GOVIND DEVELOPMENT FOR THE ENGINEERING SERVICES AS IT RELATES TO THE NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND FACILITY ROOF. I ALSO WOULD AGREE THE JUDGE THAT IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT THAT YOU WILL NEED TO USE THE ARCHITECT WE ARE USING BECAUSE IT MAKES WHAT SHE SAYS ON THAT

MAKES SENSE. >> I HAVE A LONG-STANDING RELATIONSHIP WITH DIRECTORS.

IT WOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM TO WORK WITH ANOTHER ARCHITECT IS BALDWIN IS HIGHLY VALUED.

>> IT WOULD BE A NICE ADDITION TO ANYBODY'S TEAM. AGAIN I DON'T WANT YOU TO GO BACK TO SOQUEL THAT WE DON'T WANT THEM BUT I THINK THE JUDGE IS RIGHT THAT WE HAVE AN ARCHITECT ON THE COURTHOUSE AND BE OKAY WITH USING THEM THEN WE LIKE YOU TO USE THEM.

BUT TELL MR. SOCHA THAT HE DOES GREAT WORK TO AND WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO USE THEM ON OUR

PROJECTS. >> I THINK HE WOULD UNDERSTAND PERFECTLY AND WE JUST WANT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE CONTINUITY OF THE WORK THAT IS GOING ON OUT AND UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING I CANNOT ARGUE WITH THAT. THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF

CONTINUITY THEY WANT TO ACHIEVE. >> IS NOT A REASONABLE

SITUATION. >>COMMISSIONER: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY.

IS THERE ANY NEED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? I AM GOING TO KIND OF HONOR THAT DELAY SITUATION. SOMETIMES THERE IS A DELAY BUT WE HAVE A MEETING.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT IGNORING YOU ON THE SCREEN. ARE YOU OKAY HERE?

OKAY. >> YOU ARE MUTED JOHN. >>JUDGE CANALES: I GUESS HE'S

OKAY. >> I CAN BARELY HEAR YOU ALL. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE INTERNET PROBLEMS. I DON'T EVEN SEE YOU ON MY SCREEN.

>>JUDGE CANALES: SORRY ABOUT THAT. JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HEARD THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO NOMINATE, NOT NORMALLY PRINT THE BOOK I AM ON THE FLOOR. I AM NOT ON THE FLOOR ON AT THE DAIS BUT THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE GOVIND DEVELOPMENT LLC FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES RELATING TO THE COURTHOUSE AND JAIL FACILITIES ROOF REPLACEMENT PROJECT. WE DO NEED TO IDENTIFY THE FUNDING SOURCE WHICH I WILL DO HERE SHORTLY JOHN. BUT THE CONVERSATION MORPHED INTO HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR CONTINUITY SAKE TO WORK WITH AN ARCHITECT AND BECAUSE THAT IS KEY. YOU KNOW. AND THE ARCHITECT WE HAVE WORKING ON THE FACIA IS WORKER AND THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION THAT OSCAR WAS SAYING THAT HE IS A PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM. AND WITH MANY I AM SURE.

>> SO BASICALLY JOHN THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THIS BUT TO INCLUDE RICHTER ON THAT TEAM INSTEAD OF SOCHA. NO OFFENSE MEANT TO MR. SOCHA BUT BECAUSE OF THE CONTINUITY IN THE JUDGMENT IT CAN PUT ON A CONTINUITY IN THE IS A QUICK RECAP.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT BUT IF THAT IS THE WILL OF THE COURT THEN CAN YOU AT LEAST TAKE THAT BACK TO JENNY SO THAT WHEN YOU OFF, THIS IS JUST SORT OF US TELLING WHO WE WANT TO WORK WITH AND YOU WILL GET THE CONTRACT.

YOU CAN HEAR THE WILL OF IT. DOES THAT SOUND FAIR? >> YES.

I AM GETTING GOOD NOTES HERE. >> WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL VOTE NEXT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE. >> OPPOSED SAME SIGN. >> THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUAN IT WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT THING TO GET TOGETHER QUICKLY ONCE THE CONTRACTS ARE DONE. BUT BEFOREHAND.

WE DO HAVE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AT THE COURTHOUSE. WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW EVERYBODY IS WORKING AS A TEAM HERE. I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT THAT WITH REGARDS TO THE ROOF FACILITIES. WHEN WE GET A CHANCE LET'S HAVE

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THAT ON THE WEEKLY MEETING AND LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT GOVIND DEVELOPMENT WAS SELECTED.

THERE ARE A LOT OF WORDS BEING THROWN AROUND. THEY ARE GOING TO SERVE AS PROJECT MANAGERS AND THEN SOME OF THIS TO DAVID RICHTER FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL PIECES.

I WANT TO KNOW WHO IS DOING WHAT RIGHT. HOW DO WE KNOW HOW WE GET VALUED ENGINEERING. WE USE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT. THAT IS HOW IT ALL WORKS.

WITH WHO WAS BRUCE OR NO OVERSIGHT. THAT IS REALLY WHAT WORKS AROUND HERE. YOU KNOW WHAT, THE PHOENIX PROJECT IS EVIDENCE OF IT THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING PUT ON THE ROOF TO WORK AS WELL AS THE PHOENIX PRODUCT HAS WORKED.

I KNOW YOU CAN BRING THAT HOME. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU JUAN.

WHAT ELSE? >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHT. >> PURCHASING.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE DID PURCHASING YESTERDAY. I THINK WHAT I AM GOING TO DO BUT IT'S 1:00 AND IT'S A GOOD TIME. WHILE ACTUALLY I HAVE A COUPLE MORE.I HAVE TWO ON CONSENT AND TWO ON REGULAR. THREE ON REGULAR.

>> I THINK NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER FIVE ON REGULAR WE STILL HAVE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I AM JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT TIMEWISE BUT SOMETIMES WHEN YOU DO EXECUTIVE AT LEAST EVERYBODY GETS TO GET UP AND GO TO THE BATHROOM AND GRAB A SANDWICH.

WE CAN KEEP WORKING AND NOT LOSING TIME EVERY CONTEMPORARY. LET'S DO THAT.

AS THEY SAY I AM MAKING THE EXECUTIVE DECISION.LET ME GIVE NOTICE AT THIS MOMENT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT IS GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE MATTERS THAT WERE LISTED ANYWHERE ON THE AGENDA WHEN AUTHORIZED BY THE PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. AND OF COURSE ALL OF THIS IS BEING ANNOUNCED BY MYSELF AS A PROCEEDING OFFICER WITH SECTION 501072073, 074, 075, 76, A SIX AND 87. WE DO SO TO CONSULT WITH OUR ATTORNEY INCLUDING MANNERS REGARDING TO LITIGATION, REAL PROPERTY, PERSPECTIVE GIFTS, PERSONNEL MATTERS, TERMINATION, COUNTY ADVISORY BODIES, AND SECURITY OF BIASES HISTORY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN ANY OTHER MANNER THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED DURING EXECUTIVE POSITION.THEY MAY IN OPEN SESSION TAKE ACTION AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT WE DEEM APPROPRIATE AS REQUIRED OR FOUND IT NECESSARY IN ITEMS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. WITH THAT FOR THE CLERK THE TIME IS 1:06 PM ON THE RECORD. WE WILL GAMBLE OUT FOR THE CLERK AND EVERYBODY IS HARD TO PREDICT BUT I AM GOING TO SAY TO GIVE US AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, 45 MINUTES.

>> WHAT ARE YOU DISCUSSING IN EXECUTIVE? >> A, B AND C. ALSO THE ITEMS THAT MELISSA POINTED OUT WHICH ARE, GIVE ME ONE MOMENT. 20 AND 21.YEAH.

I WILL SAY THAT IF HE WILL CLEAR THE COURTROOM AND TAKE OFF OUR MINDS AND LET US WORK IN HERE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AT LEAST TAKE 10 MINUTES BEFORE, SEEKING GRAB A SANDWICH OR DO WHATEVER YOU NEED LUNCH WISE. COME BACK IN AND WE WILL WORK AND EAT AT THE SAME TIME. OKAY RECORDS...

224, 2:24 P.M. WE ARE OFFICIALLY GAVELED BACK IN, AND WE HAVE ONE ITEM TO TAKE UP FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION, AND THAT'S THE MATTER OF ITEM B, AND I'M MAKING A MOTION TO RATIFY THE HIRING OF KEITH SHISKOWSKI TO PRESENT THE HEALTH DISTRICT IN THE MATTER OF NUMBER 220... JOHN SMITH VERSUS NUECES COUNTY OR CORPUS CHRISTI VERSUS NUECES COUNTY HEALTH DISTRICT.

IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT RATIFICATION.

>> I WITH A JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT WE DIRECT THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS TO DO WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN REGARDS TO --

>> I'LL ADD TO THE MOTION THAT IN ADDITION TO THE RATIFICATION THAT WE THE DIRECT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI ON THIS MATTER.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SECOND THAT.

>> AS WAS DISCUSSED. AND THERE'S A SECOND, AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE. >> AND WE ALSO HAVE MANY PEOPLE THAT WE WISHED TO HONOR TODAY, AND WE'RE GONNA BRING THEM BACK ON MONDAY BECAUSE WE WANT THE WHOLE QUORUM AND ALSO WANT TO HONOR THESE FOLKS. BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE OKAY JUST TO SAY THEIR NAMES, WE SAY THAT'S SO POWERFUL.

JUST SAY THEIR NAMES AND KNOW THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT YOU

AND ON MONDAY -- >> YES?

>> I THINK THAT THE CLERK IS GONNA WANT YOU TO FORMALLY TABLE THE REST OF THE ITEMS. I CAN READ THEM OFF FOR YOU.

>> THAT'S FINE. NO, UNFORTUNATELY WE CAN'T RECESS AGAIN. SO WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE TO ADJOURN. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, WE CAN TABLE THE REST OF THE ITEMS UNTIL MONDAY WHEN WE ATTEND TO POST A

NEW MEETING. >> CAN YOU JUST READ THEY REAL

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QUICK? >> DO WE KNOW TO TABLE THEM?

>> KARA SAID WE DO. >> I THINK IN THE BEST PRACTICE

OF THE COURT, I WOULD SAY -- >> I WOULD MOVE THE TABLE -- INSIDE WE'VE NEVER HAD TO DO THIS BEFORE.

>> THE REMAINDER OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE STILL ON THE AGENDA

UNTIL MONDAY. >> IS THAT OKAY? AND WHY DON'T WE GET BELINDA TO GIVE YOU A COPY OF WHICH ONES THEY ARE. THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU, KARA. >> NO PROBLEM.

>> AND SO MOTIONS AND A SECOND, AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY

BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE.

OKAY. AND THEN AGAIN, THE ONLY ONE I'LL JUST -- AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT, AGAIN, ALL OF THE ONES WE HAD ON WILL GO INTO PROPER HONORING ON MONDAY, BUT I DID WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT LINDA PRUDEHOME PASSED AWAY ON TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 21ST, AND SHE WAS THE TWIN SISTER OF TERESA'S SISTER-IN-LAW, TERESA IN MACK LEMORE COURT ADMINISTRATION, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE'RE ALWAYS MINDFUL OF HOW COVID IS REALLY IMPACTED OUR FAMILIES, THIS PARTICULAR LOSS IS A COVID COMPLICATION. AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU BEFORE MONDAY THAT WE ARE EXTENDING OUR CONDOLENCES TO YOU, TERESA, AND TO YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY, AND I HOPE THAT MAYBE BY MONDAY YOU'LL SHARE MORE INFORMATION, I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT HER AND HER LIFE SO THAT WE CAN PROPERLY HONOR HER AND, PLEASE LET YOUR SISTER-IN-LAW KNOW THAT WE'RE THINKING OF HER.

IN ADDITION, I'M FEELING VERY SAD ABOUT THE LOSS OF IRIS LEERMAN, MOTHER OF TWO -- MOTHER TO JEFF LEERMAN AND WIFE TO ANDY LEERMAN. JEFF WAS IN OUR COURTROOM NOT TOO LONG AGO AND I WILL HOPE TO PROPERLY HONOR HER ON MONDAY AS WELL AS DR. DONALD HANNA, AS

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