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>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I AM GOING TO GAVEL US IN HERE THIS MORNING AND WELCOME

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

EVERYBODY TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE ALL OF YOU TO RISE AS WE GET

[A. County Judge calls for the Invocation.]

INVOCATION. OUR PRAYER THIS MORNING WILL BE GIVEN BY COMMISSIONER JOHN MAREZ.

THIS WILL BE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO AMERICA AND TO THE TEXAS FLAGS.

BOW YOUR HEADS. >> DEAR GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR TODAY. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS START OF THE WEEK WITH SO MANY THINGS THAT YOU PUT IN PLACE OF US TO WORK THROUGH, TO WORK FROM AND ESPECIALLY TO FIND A SOLUTION THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

THIS AGENDA TODAY IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH FOR THE PEOPLE YOU HAVE PUT US HERE TO REPRESENT.

WE PRAY TODAY THAT YOU WILL GUIDE US WITH YOUR LOVE AND MERCY AND GUIDE US TO FIND THE AREAS TO COMPROMISE WHEN TO COMPROMISE AND HOLD TRUE WHEN WE NEED TO HOLD TRUE.

WE DO THAT WITH RESPECT AND UNDERSTANDING.

DEAR GOD, TODAY WE PRAY THAT TODAY YOU WILL GUIDE US THROUGH THIS MEETING, THAT YOU WILL GUIDE AND PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY AS WE CONTINUE TO RESPOND TO COVID.

WE PRAY FOR THOSE WHO HAVE LOST LOVED ONES AND THOSE WHO ARE STILL BATTLING IT. AND WE PRAY FOR A SOLUTION TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO ALL THOSE NEEDS.

WE ALSO PRAY TO GUIDE US AND PROTECT US FROM THE TROPICS AS WE KNOW THERE ARE STORMS STIRRING UP.

WE THANK YOU, LORD, FOR YOUR BLESSING AND PRAY YOU WATCH OVER US. IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE

[B. Pledge of Allegiance to the United States of America and Texas Flags.]

FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDERGOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND

JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE TEXAS.

ONE STATE UNDERGOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

[C. County Judge will call roll, note date, time, and location of meeting, and certify a quorum is present.]

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: OWE WAY -- OKAY.

FOR THE CLERK. IT WAS 9:06 WHEN I GAVELED IN AND WE ARE HERE IN THE THIRD FLOOR OF THE NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

I CERTIFY COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, MAREZ, CHESNEY ARE PRESENT AND A QUORUM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED.

TODAY IS AUGUST 16TH, 2021.

AT THIS TIME, TIMOTHY EVER REST -- EVEREST IS HERE FOR A

[D. SAFETY BRIEFING]

SAFETY BRIEFING AND I ASK YOU TO GIVE HIM YOUR ATTENTION.

>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

WE ARE HERE IN THE NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE.

THERE ARE RESTROOMS ON THE RIGHT RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE FLOOR NEXT TO THE DRINKING FOUNTAIN NEXT HUMAN RESOURCES. THERE ARE SIX FIRE DISTINGUISHERS IN THE ATRIUM AREA.

THE CLOSEST FIRE DISTINGUISHER NEAR US -- NEAREST YOU, PLEASE LOCATE IT. AN AED DEVICE IS ON EVERY FLOOR OF THE NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE.

THIS FLOOR'S DEVICE IS NEXT TO THE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE IN THE EVENT OF A CARDIAC EMERGENCY.

PARTICIPANTS RESPONSIBLE FOR DIALING 9-1-1 ARE CONNIE.

PARTICIPANTS WHO ARE CPR CERTIFIED IN ATTENDANCE ARE MYSELF AND DALE, ALTHOUGH ANYONE CAN RENDER AID.

IN THE EVENT OF EVACUATION THIS COURT'S EGRESS ROUTE IS DOWN THE 8 -- ATRIUM STAIRS AND MOVING ACROSS THE STREETED AND DISPERSING ONCE IN THE PARKING LOT FOR SECURITY PURPOSES. SHOULD THERE BE A NEED TO SHELTER IN PLACE, THE COURT AND ATTENDEES WILL REMAIN IN THE COURTROOM. DEPENDING ON THE VAW SHARE TEE OF THE INCIDENT THE DOUBLE DOORS WILL BE SECURED AND REMAIN SO UNTIL INSTRUCTION FROM THE NUECES COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

THE TOPIC IS COVID WITH THE THREE W'S.

PLEASE ENSURE YOU WASH YOUR HANDS, WATCH YOUR SOCIAL DISTANCING AND IT IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED YOU WEAR YOUR MASK IN PUBLIC PLACES. THAT CONCLUDES THE SAFETY

BRIEFING. >> WE THANK YOU FOR THAT.

[E. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]

AT THIS TIME I WOULD ASK A LISTING OF THOSE THAT ARE HERE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AND ALSO ASK THOSE ONLINE TO GO AHEAD AND SIGNAL BY RAISING YOUR HAND AT THIS TIME.

I SEE NOBODY ONLINE. IF YOU WILL GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT, WE WOULD LIKE TO CHECK THE HALLWAYS TO SEE IF ANYBODY IS WAITING. FOR THOSE WHO ARE HERE, GIVE US JUST ONE MOMENT. HERE IT COMES.

IN ADVANCE, I WILL SHARE WITH YOU THAT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT

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WE TYPICALLY DO NOT RESPOND BACK, BUT DO NOT TAKE THAT AS A SIGN WE ARE NOT LISTENING OR DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SHARING. WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

IT IS JUST SORT OF THE PROCESS PUT FORTH IN THE RULES.

HAVING SAID THAT, SOMETIMES YOUR COMMENT RELATES TO AN AGENDA ITEM, AND SO IF IT DOES, I MIGHT INVITE YOU TO STAY SO THAT YOU CAN HEAR THE RESPONSE.

SOMETIMES THAT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW THAT IN ADVANCE RATHER THAN JUST GIVE YOUR COMMENT AND YOU THINK, WELL, THEY DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING. WITH THAT IN MIND, DANIEL SAMORA. YOU ARE LISTED FIRST, MR. SAMORA. IF YOU HILLARY STATE YOUR NAME -- WILL RESTATE YOUR NAME WITH YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS DANIEL ZAMORA AND I LIVE AT -- MY WIFE AND I, WE RESIDE AT 3638 COUNTY ROAD, 52B AND KNOWN AS THE VALLEY VIEW SUBDIVISION.

FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FINE WORK THAT THE COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HAS DONE IN OUR SUBDIVISION AREA. THEY HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB IN THE IMPROVEMENTS. WITH THAT SAID THERE ARE STILL SOME ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.

PARTICULARLY THE END OF COUNTY ROAD 52B ON THE EASTSIDE OF IT. THERE IS A DRAINAGE DITCH THAT RUNS NORTH TO SOUTH NEAR COUNTY ROAD 52.

MR. PIEMENTEL HAS INFORMED ME THROUGH EMAIL IT WILL BE ADDRESSED. WITH THE I'M MA -- WITH THE IMMINENT STORM APPROACHING AND THE POSSIBILITY OF IT COMING TO OUR AREA, I KINDLY REQUEST THAT THAT ISSUE BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE RIGHT NOW AT I'M SPEAKING WE HAVE WORKERS IN OUR HOUSE ADDRESSING THE DAMAGE CAUSED BY THE FLOODING AND -- ON MAY 19TH AS WELL AS JULY 8TH.

IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS A THIRD TIME AND THERE ARE ABOUT 10 OF MY NEIGHBORS FROM THE SUBDIVISION PRESENT HERE TODAY. I AM SPEAKING ON THEIR BEHALF AND I'M SURE THEY FEEL THE SAME WAY.

I KNOW THAT THEY WERE AFFECTED BY THE FLOODING TOO.

THAT'S ONE ISSUE THERE. THE OTHER ISSUE IS THE EQUALIZERS. IN THE PAST I KNOW WE HAD EQUALIZERS, PIPES RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH UNDER THE ROAD. WE WOULD JUST LIKE SOME INFORMATION ON IF THAT'S GOING TO BE A POSSIBILITY TO JUST BALANCE OUT THE WATER FLOW IN CASE OF FLOODING OR HEAVY RAINS. THAT'S THE SECOND ISSUE.

THE THIRD ISSUE IS PROBABLY NOT A RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COUNTY. WHEN THE COUNTY DUG OUT THE DITCHES, MANY NEIGHBORS REQUESTED PILES OF DIRT TO BE PUT ON THEIR YARDS. I DID SO TOO.

I HAVE ADDRESSED -- I HAVE SPREAD MY DIRT OUT, AND I WILL TAKE IT UPON MYSELF TO NOTIFY THE NEIGHBORS AND MOVE THEIR PILES OF DIRT. THEY NEED TO TAKE CARE OF IT BECAUSE THE HEAVY RAINS WILL CAUSE THOSE DIRT PILES TO END UP BACK INTO THE DITCHES, THUS RESTRICTING THE WATER FLOW.

I WILL ADDRESS THAT WITH OUR NEIGHBORS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THANK YOU, MR. ZAMORA.

I WILL INVITE YOU TO STAY BECAUSE OF THE UPCOMING DRAINAGE PRESENTATION. I AM GOING TO SPEAK WITH COMMISSIONERS HERE, BUT I BELIEVE IT IS IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO DO THE RESOLUTIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS AND THEN TO ADVANCE, JUAN, YOUR PRESENTATION ON DRAINAGE.

FIRST WE WILL HEAR FROM MR. BOBBIE L CHESTNUT.

>> THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY.

MY NAME IS BOBBIE L CHESTNUT AND I LIVE AT 5116 SIESTA LOOP. IT IS IN THE SAME SUBDIVISION AS MR. DANIEL. IT IS JUST RIGHT STREET

OVER -- >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THANK

YOU. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: MUCH BETTER.

>> THE COUNTY CAME IN AND DUG ALL OF THE DITCHES OUT, BUT LIKE MR. ZAMORA SAID, THEY DID NOT ADDRESS THE BACK OF THE

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SUBDIVISION, WHERE THE WATER DRAINS TO.

THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE CULVERTS THAT THEY HAVE COVERED THEIR YARD WITH AND HAD SOME DRAINAGE, BUT THESE CULVERTS ARE STILL PLUGGED. I WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WILL BRING IN WHAT WE USED TO CALL IN A SUPER SUCKER AND SUCK IT OUT. WITH THE STORM COMING, THAT'S STILL THE BOTTLE BOTTLENECK IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IN MY CASE, MY LOT IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST IN THE SUBDIVISION. AND THEY DUG A HUH LAY SUS DITCH IN FRONT OF MY YARD WHEN I ADD SMALL ONE AND MY DRAINAGE IS GOOD. IF I PURCHASE THE CULVERTS AND THE PIPE, IF THE COUNTY WILL COME IN AND INSTALL THEM IN MY FRONT YARD. I AM WILLING TO BUY THE MATERIALS, BUT NOT THE LABOR. ALSO, THE DRAINAGE AND I'M SURE IT WILL BE ADDRESSED, BUT WHEN YOU GET TO THE DITCHES IT RUNS FROM OUR AREA THROUGH ROBBS TOWN.

THEY HAVE BIG TREES IN THE DITCH.

ROBS TOWN, THEY HAVE NO FUNDS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

THIS IS COUNTY DRAINAGE THAT RUNS THROUGH ROBS TOWN AND BACK DOWN HIGHWAY 44 AND THERE ARE LARGE TREES IN THAT.

YOU WORK FROM THE FRONT TO THE BACK INSTEAD OF THE BACK TO THE FRONT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THANK YOU, MR. CHESTNUT.

AND NEXT WE HAVE MR. BRUCE HOLSHER.

AND JUST SO WE'RE READY, MS. KAREN VAUGHN WILL BE

NEXT. >> THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING ABLE TO COME IN AND TALK TO YOU.

MY NAME IS BRUCE FELCHER, 3646, COUNTY ROAD B IN THE SUBDIVISION. I HAVE A PREPARED STATEMENT SO I DON'T WANDER OFF QUICKLY. MY HOME WAS BUILT IN 1980.

I LIVED IN IT FOR THE PAST 41 YEARS.

IT IS LOCATED ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN THE BLOCK ON 52B, VALLEY VIEW ON THE INSIDE LOOP. BEFORE MAY 19TH OF THIS YEAR I NEVER HAD WATER INTO THE LIVING AREAS OF MY HOUSE.

WE EXPERIENCED ALL OF THE NORMAL WEATHER EVENTS IN THE PAST 41 YEARS WITHOUT WATER IN THE HOUSE.

ON MAY 19TH AND ON JULY 8TH THE WATER ROSE HIGH ENOUGH TO COME INTO THE ENTIRE LIVING AREA OF MY HOME. THAT'S TWICE IN SIX WEEKS.

THE DITCHES AND CULVERTS ALONG COUNTY ROAD 52B DID NEED TO BE CLEANED OUT. SOME OF THE KOLL VERTS WERE SIG -- CULVERTS WERE SIGNIFICANTLY RESTRICTED THIS SHOULD BE A ROUTINE COUNTY MAINTENANCE FUNCTION.

THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE LOT, WHICH IS WHAT THE TWO OTHER GENTLEMEN REFERRED TO, AT THE END OF 52B WHERE ALL OF THE RUNOFF FROM THE SUBDIVISION GOES IS A SINGLE EXIT POINT THAT GOES UNDER THE NUECES COUNTY WATER CONTROL AND IMPROVEMENT NUMBER 3 WATER CANAL.

A FEW YEARS BACK WHEN NUECES COUNTY WATER CON DISTRICT WAS INSTALLING A NEW WATER LINE FROM HAZEL MAY TO ROBS TOWN THERE WAS A THREE TO FOUR-FOOT CORRUGATED METAL DRAINAGE PIPE IN THE DITCH. IT WAS REPLACED WITH THREE CONCRETE POLES. WHEN WE HAD THE MEETING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT THE WATER DISTRICT WORKED WITH THE NUECES COUNTY.

THE YARD FORMING WAS AWARE IT WAS CHANGED AT THAT TIME.

COMMISSIONER -- COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ AND MR. PIMENTEL WILL HAVE MORE. THE WATER LEVEL RISES NOT ONLY ON THE INSIDE OF THE LOOP, BUT ALSO ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE LOOP BECAUSE THE WATER JUST CAN'T GET THROUGH THE NEW CULVERTS AND IT CAN'T GET OUT UNDER THE CANAL.

IN THE PAST DURING A RAIN EVENT THE WATER LEVEL USED TO RISE IN A RAIN STORM, BUT IT WOULD IMMEDIATELY START RECEDING. AND NOW THE WATER LEVEL ACTUALLY RISES ANOTHER TWO OR THREE HOURS AFTER THE RAIN EVENT. TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY THAT WAS AND ALL OF THE FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND THERE IS A SUBDIVISION ON THE OTHER SIDE, IF IT RAINS HARD ENOUGH THEIR RETENTION POND OVER FLOWS AND RUNS INTO THE DITCH ON 1889 AND INTO 1890 AND THE VALLEY VIEW SUBDIVISION. I KNOW THIS IS OCCURRING

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BECAUSE THEY TINT THAT WATER BLUE FOR AN AESTHETIC EFFECT SO IT IS PRETTY, AND I HAVE BLUE WATER RUNNING THROUGH MY YARD IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.

I'M FAIR LEISURE THAT IS HAPPENING.

THE OTHER CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS GONE ON IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SUBDIVISION THERE USED TO BE A PLOW FIELD THAT IS NOW BEING IMPROVED, AND JUST RECENTLY HAS HAD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK DONE TO IT AND NOW THAT WHOLE FIELD DRAINS THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION.

SO INSTEAD OF DRAINING THE SUBDIVISION, WE ARE GETTING WATER FROM THE LAKES AND IT IS FROM 1889 AND GETTING WATER FROM THE NEW CONSTRUCTION ON THE NORTH SIDE.

WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE PART OF THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI DOESN'T TALK TO THE COUNTY. THE STUFF ALONG 1889, THAT'S DOT AND THE DOT DOESN'T TALK TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

WE ARE TOLD THAT NUECES COUNTY HAS NO NOTICE, ABILITY TO COMMENT ORIE RESPONSIBILITY FOR -- OR RESPONSIBILITY FOR EITHER OF THOSE PROJECTS AND THE DAMAGE THEY ARE DOING.

I FIND THAT REALLY HARD TO BELIEVE.

THESE MULTIPLE ADDITIONAL FLOWS AND THE CHOKING OFF OF THE EXIT POINT TO ME IS JUST ABSOLUTELY HORRENDOUS PLANNING, ENGINEERING, COMMUNICATION AND COOPERATION BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY, CORPUS CHRISTI AND THE DOT AND HAVE CAUSED THIS DISASTER IN THE VALLEY VIEW SUBDIVISION.

THE NUECES COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS FOLKS HAVE PROMISED TO MAINTAIN THE DITCHES AND AS OTHER FOLKS HAVE SAID, THEY HAVE BEEN OUT THERE DOING A HECK OF A JOB CLEANING OUT THE DITCHES AND CLEANING OUT THE ENTRANCE TO THE CULVERTS IN THE SUBDIVISION ITSELF, BUT THAT MAIN OUTLET POINT, THAT MAIN CHOKE POINT HAS NOT BEEN TOUCHED.

I GO HOME BYWAY OF THAT ROAD, COUNTY ROAD 52, EVERY DAY AND ANYTIME SOMEBODY IS OUT THERE DOING ANYTHING I ASK THEM WHAT IS GOING ON AND WHO THEY ARE. THE OTHER DAY I STOPPED BECAUSE THERE WERE FOLKS OUT THERE CUTTING THE READS AND THE -- THE REEDS AND THE CANES GROWING IN THE DITCH.

THEY SAID THEY WERE FROM THE NUECES COUNTY WATER DISTRICT.

THEY WERE CUTTING ALL OF THAT STUFF DOWN AND DOING A GREAT JOB. I ASKED IF THEY WERE CLEANING THAT OUT WHERE IT CROSSES UNDER THE CANAL.

THE GENTLEMAN THERE THAT WAS THE ONE SITTING IN THE TRUCK WATCHING THE OTHER GUY WORK, HE IS THE ONE THAT TOLD ME THAT THE CROSSING IS ACTUALLY SPECIFIED AND MAINTAINED BY KNEW WAY SUCCESS -- NUECES COUNTY AND NOT THE WATER DISTRICT. I SENT MR. PIEMENTEL IF THAT WAS CORRECT AND HE SAID IT IS.

IT BELONGS TO NUECES COUNTY AND IT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AND AT THAT POINT THEY ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT ALL IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE DOWN THERE.

IT HAS BEEN IN THE LAST WEEK OR SO.

WE ARE GETTING SOME SUPPORT, BUT THERE ARE ITEMS AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED THAT THEY ARE NOT -- UNLESS THEY ARE TAKEN CARE OF, WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING THIS AGAIN.

MY WIFE AND I, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF FIXING OUR HOME. WE GOT ABOUT HALF OF THE FLOORING IN THE HOUSE REPLACED WHEN WE WERE HIT WITH A SECOND FLOOR -- SCEKD FLOOD. SECOND FLOOD.

THE FLOORING WASN'T IN THE HOUSE FOR 24 HOURS.

WE HAD TO RIP IT ALL OUT AND START ALL OVER.

WE ARE ALMOST TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE THE FLOORING BACK IN, THE HARD FLOORING. NOW WE ARE PUTTING THE CARPET IN AND NOW WE HAVE A TROPICAL STORM COMING INTO THE GULF.

WE ARE REALLY NERVOUS ABOUT DOING THIS A THIRD TIME.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO US. WE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE SOME HELP AND MAKING SURE THIS WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY IN 40 YEARS NOTHING HAPPENS, AND THEN PROGRESS, I GUESS, JUST GETS US AROUND THE THROAT BECAUSE IT IS REALLY GOING TO BE HARD IF WE HAVE TO DO THIS AGAIN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THANK YOU.

AND YOUR PREPARED COMMENTS CAN BE GIVEN TO THE CLERK -- I'M SORRY. WELL, TO THE CLERK AND THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR AND IT MAY HELP US.

YOUR DETAIL IS EXCELLENT. IF YOU WANT.

>> IF YOU DON'T MIND THE HANDWRITTEN EDITS ON HERE.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I THINK IT MIGHT HELP THE COMMISSIONERS REMEMBER THOSE DETAILS.

OF COURSE, THEY CAN ALWAYS CALL YOU AS WELL.

>> YOU BET. I CAN EMAIL IT TO YOU.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

AND SO NEXT WE HAVE KAREN VAUGHN.

AND THEN AFTER MS. VAUGHN, LISA, DID YOU WISH TO SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? NO?

>> HI, GOOD MORNING. I'M KAREN VAUGHN AND I LIVE AT 3627 COUNTY ROAD 52B IN ROBS TOWN IN THE VALLEY VIEW SUBDIVISION. I CAN'T ADD ANYMORE THAN WHAT

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THE PREVIOUS GENTLEMEN SAID, BUT JUST ASK THE COURT THAT NOT ONLY IN OUR SUBDIVISION, BUT I KNOW ROGER POWELL WAS HERE THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS SUBJECT, SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE AREAS IN NORTHWEST NUECES COUNTY THAT NEEDS ASSISTANCE. WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE SO FAR AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUED ASSISTANCE.

THANK YOU. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS, ONLY BECAUSE THEY SORT OF EXPECT IT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE HOUR, WE ONLY HAVE TWO ITEMS, NICE ITEMS, AND I THINK WE CAN GO THROUGH THEM EXPEDITIOUSLY AND THEN WE'LL ADDRESS -- WE'LL ADVANCE MR. PIEMEENTEL'S DEMONSTRATION ON DRAINAGE THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO HEAR. AT THIS TIME I DIRECT YOUR

[1. 101st Celebration of the passing of 19th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution (Right for Women to Vote).]

ATTENTION TO ITEM F1 WHICH IS THE ADOPTING OF THE RESOLUTION REGARDING THE 101ST CELEBRATION OF THE PASSING OF THE 19TH AMENDMENT TO THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION FOR THE -- CONSTITUTION. FOR THE WOMEN IN THE ROOM WE KNOW THIS IS OUR RIGHT TO VOTE AND WITH US HERE WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS.

LET'S LET TINER BEGIN WITH THE RESOLUTION.

>> THIS IS IN RECOGNITION OF WOMEN'S EQUALITY DAY IN HONOR OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS CORPUS CHRISTI AREA AND IN CELEBRATION OF THE 101ST ANNIVERSARY OF THE PASSING OF THE 19TH AMENDMENT. WHEREAS CARRIE CHAPMAN CAT FOUNDED THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS, A NONPARTISAN ORGANIZATION, 101 YEARS AGO IN 1920 DURING THE CONVENTION OF THE NATIONAL AMERICAN WOMAN SUFFERAGE ASSOCIATION.

THE CONVENTION WAS HELD JUST SIX MONTHS BEFORE THE 19TH AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION WAS RATIFIED GIVING THEM THE RIGHT TO VOTE AFTER A STRUGGLE LASING -- LASTING 7 DECADES IN. 1945 THE CORPUS CHRISTI LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS WAS FORMED WITH DOROTHY GREEN SERVING AS ITS FIRST PRESIDENT. WHEREAS FROM THE BEGINNING THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS HAS BEEN ACTIVIST GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATION WHOSE MEMBERS BELIEVE THAT ALL CITIZENS SHOULD ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN GOVERNMENT, ADVOCACY AND VOTING. WHEREAS THE GOALS OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS ARE TO EMPOWER CITIZENS AND TO SHAPE BETTER COMMUNITIES WORLDWIDE AND SHOW RESPECT FOR INDIVIDUALS AND THE VALUE OF DIVERSITY AND EMPOWER OTHERS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MAKES DEMOCRACY WORK.

WHEREAS THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS ACTS WITH TRUST AND INTEGRITY AND PROFESSIONALISM AND OPERATES IN AN OPEN, EFFECT MAN EDGE KITE THE -- EDUCATE THE PUBLIC THROUGH VOTERS' GUIDES AND CANDIDATE FORUMS AND TAKES THE INITIATIVE TO ENGAGE VOTERS AND DEFEND DEMOCRACY.

AND IT ACKNOWLEDGES THE LEAGUE'S HERITAGE AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY. WHEREAS FOR 76 YEARS, THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS CORPUS CHRISTI AREA HAS BIMENT -- BUILT CITIZEN PARTICIPATION IN THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS BY ENGAGING COMMUNITIES, PROMOTING POSITIVE SOLUTIONS TO PUBLIC POLICY ISSUES THROUGH EDUCATION AND ADVOCACY AND STUDYING COMMUNITY ISSUES.

NOW THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT NUECES COUNTY THAT THURSDAY, AUGUST 26TH, 2021 AS WOMEN'S EQUALITY DAY IN HONOR OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS AND IN CELEBRATION OF THE 101ST ANNIVERSARY OF WOMEN'S RIGHT TO VOTE IN NUECES COUNTY.

IT CALLS UPON ALL CITIZENS TO OBSERVE THIS ANNIVERSARY WITH PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES THAT ENGAGE VOTERS AND DEFEND

DEMOCRACY. >> SO MOVED.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I'LL SECOND.

WE'LL CALL FOR DISCUSSION. LADIES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE

SOME COMMENTS THIS MORNING? >> AT THE -- THANK YOU.

I AM LOW WES -- LOIS HOUGH. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE HARD WORK YOU ARE DOING FOR OUR COUNTY AND FOR THE RESIDENTS AND THE AREA WE ARE WORKING IN. I WANTED TO TAKE JUST A MINUTE TO INVITE YOU ALL TO COME TO OUR VIRTUAL CELEBRATION THAT WILL BE THURSDAY, AUGUST 26TH, BETWEEN 12 AND 1. IT IS FREE AND IT IS GOING TO BE FUN. JOIN US IN CELEBRATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THANK YOU. THAT SOUNDS LIKE FUN.

SILVIA, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS?

>> MY ONLY COMMENT IS THE REASON CORPUS CHRISTI LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS WAS FORMED WAS BECAUSE AT THAT TIME WOMEN

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COULD NOT SERVE ON JURIES. I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT BENEFIT FROM HAVING WOMEN ON JURIES.

THANK YOU. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WOMEN REALLY OWE A GREAT DEBT OF GRATITUDE. CAN YOU IMAGINE BEING IMPRISONED BECAUSE YOU WERE FIGHTING FOR THE RIGHT TO VOTE AND REALLY BEING TORTURED? THAT HAPPENED HERE IN OUR COUNTRY. IT IS VERY HARD TO REMEMBER WHEN YOU SEE ME SITTING UP HERE AS A FEMALE JUDGE.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IT WAS THE MEN IN OUR LIVES THAT MARCHED WITH WOMEN IN PROTEST TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE DID HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE. SO TODAY IS A SPECIAL DAY THAT WE AS A COMMISSIONER'S COURT RECOGNIZE WOMEN.

I PARTICULARLY WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS WHO ARE ALWAYS REALLY DEDICATED IN A NONPARTISAN WAY TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE ARE EDUCATED ABOUT OUR ELECTIONS.

AS WE HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL ELECTION COMING UP, I KNOW THEY WILL BE HARD AT WORK. IT DAWNED ON ME THAT I HAVE MY BADGE OF HONOR, THE ONE YOU ARE WEARING, I THINK FROM LAST YEAR. THE MINUTE I TAKE A RECESS I WILL PUT IT ON IN CELEBRATION OF YOUR WORK.

I HOPE ALL OF US WILL -- EVERYBODY LIKES TO COMMENT ABOUT GOOD THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE WORLD.

YOU KNOW, # THE GOOD STUFF. THIS IS DEFINITELY PART OF THAT. THANK YOU, LADIES, FOR JOINING US. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THIS RESOLUTION HONORING THE 101ST CELEBRATION OF THE RIGHT TO VOTE, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

>> I. >> I.

OPPOSED SAME SIGN. OKAY.

[1. Randy Bates, Department of Public Works, retiring after 40 years of service to Nueces County.]

AND NOW WE WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS. FIRST IT IS TO HONOR AFTER 40 YEARS OF SERVICE MR. RANDY BATES.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: GOOD

MORNING. >> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND PUBLIC WORKS, WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE RANDY BATES FOR HIS 40 YEARS OF SERVICE AND ON HIS RETIREMENT. WANT TO THANK RANDY FOR THE 40 YEARS OF SERVICE AND HIS HARD WORK AND DEDICATION TO THE COUNTY AND PUBLIC WORKS. BEST OF LUCK.

RANDY HAS BEEN -- FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS HE HAS BEEN OUR LEAD FOREMAN. WE ARE GOING TO MISS RANDY.

WE APPRECIATE ALL HIS WORK HE HAS DONE FOR THE COUNTY.

>> FIRST THE HOUSEKEEPING. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PASS SUCH A RECOGNIZE. RECOGNITION.

I HAVE A SECOND. RANDY, WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU, IF YOU WISH. IF NOT, LET US JUST HONOR YOU BY TELLING YOU FOR 40 YEARS WHAT AN INCREDIBLE SERVICE THIS -- YOU HAVE GIVEN TO OUR COUNTY.

>> JUDGE, IF YOU DON'T MIND -- >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: OF

COURSE. >> I WANT TO THANK RANDY FOR SPENDING MOST OF HIS LIFE HERE WITH US.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WITH YOU?

>> REALLY WITH ME, 41 YEARS. AND I I JUST WISH HIM THE BEST OF LUCK. WE'RE GONNA MISS HIM A LOT BECAUSE HE IS OUR MAIN MAN FOR THE FLEET.

HAPPY RETIREMENT. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WE'RE WISHING YOU THE BEST. SOME PEOPLE ARE TRULY HARD TO REPLACE. YOU ARE GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. WE INVITE ANY COMMISSIONERS TO GIVE THEIR THANKS AND COMMENTS.

AND THEN AT SOME POINT IT IS MY HONOR TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT YOU RECEIVE THIS TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION, A GIFT SETTER -- GIFT CERTIFICATE. I TOOK THE LIBERTY AND I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND OPENING IT. I I WANT EVERYONE TO SEE HOW BEAUTIFUL IT IS. IT IS A WATCH BEING PRESENTED TO YOU SHORTLY WITH THE INSIGNIA AND THE LOGO OF NUECES COUNTY AS ONE OF THE 254 IN THE STATE OF TEXT.

STATE OF TEXAS. IT IS A REMARKABLE PIECE AND AS RARE AS YOU ARE. VERY FEW PEOPLE GET THIS WATCH, BUT THEN AGAIN FEW PEOPLE KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO DEDICATE THEIR LIFE TO ONE INSTITUTION AND TO DO IT WELL. WE ARE HUMBLED THAT YOU WOULD SPEND FOUR DECADES HERE. THE ONLY THING WE ASK IS THAT IN THIS TRANSITION YOU SHARE YOUR KNOWLEDGE BEFORE YOU LEAVE WITH MAYBE SOME OF THE YOUNGER GUYS WHO CAN REALLY BENEFIT BY YOUR WISDOM AND EXPERIENCE.

AND CAN YOU PLEASE GET HIS CELL NUMBER IN CASE SOMETHING

DOESN'T GO RIGHT? >> I WAS TRYING TO SIGN HIM UP FOR ANOTHER 10 YEARS, BUT IT DIDN'T WORK.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: COMMIS? >> YES, RANDY, I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, SIR.

IT'S GONNA BE HARD TO REPLACE YOU.

MAYBE BETWEEN -- MAYBE THEY CAN CONVINCE YOU TO COME BACK LIKE JERRY DID. HELP US OUT.

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REGARDLESS, RANDY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

>> RANDY, CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING.

TAKE A FEW MONTHS OFF AND PULL A JERRY.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA CALL IT.

THAT'S QUITE A FEET, 40 YEARS.

WE THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE CHANGES YOU HAVE SEEN HERE AT

THE COUNTY. >> THANK YOU.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY CAN PULL A JERRY.

YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR YOUR -- IT IS A LONGTIME TO BE IN ONE PLACE AND I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT.

I KNOW WE HAVE HAD 40 YEARS OF DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT FROM YOU. YOU HAVE MADE A BIG IMPACT TO THE COUNTY AND YOU CONTRIBUTED A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND LOVE.

WE WISH YOU THE BEST AND ENJOY WHAT YOU CAN.

THE DOOR IS ALWAYS OPEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOD BLESS YOU. MR. CHESNEY -- CHESNEY.

>> I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK.

IT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED. I'M SURE THESE LAST FEW YEARS HAVE FELT LIKE 10 WITH WHAT HAS BEEN GOING WITH THE DISASTERS WE HAD AND THE CATASTROPHIC EVENTS WE HAD.

YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING DOUBLE AND TRIPLE TIME AND WE APPRECIATE IT GREATLY. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD A FEW WORDS WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU, BUT CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR YOUR COMMIT MEANT -- COMMITMENT TO NUECES COUNTY AND THANK YOU TO YOUR FAMILY AS WELL.

RANDY, IT WOULD BE MY HONOR AT THIS TIME TO READ THIS.

WE HERE BY EXPRESS OUR SINCERE APPRECIATION TO RANDY BATES, PUBLIC WORKS, RETIRING AFTER 40 YEARS OF SERVICE WITH NUECES COUNTY. IT IS DUELY SIGNED BY ALL COMMISSIONERS AND MYSELF AS COUNTY JUDGE.

WE PUT AUGUST 31ST, 2021 AND I'M GUESSING THAT MIGHT BE

YOUR LAST DAY. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: AND I HAVE TO PRESENT TO YOU AND IF YOU WOULD ALLOW I WILL STAND AND WE WOULD LOVE TO TAKE A PICTURE TO COMMEMORATE THIS MOMENT.

AGAIN, IT IS A SMALL, BUT IMPORTANT TOKEN OF OUR LOVE AND APPRECIATION FOR ALL OF THE THINGS YOU DO.

WE TALK ABOUT UNSUNG HEROS AND PEOPLE BEHIND THE SCENES AND PEOPLE WHOSE NAMES YOU DON'T KNOW.

YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT KEEPS THINGS MOVING AND GOING. THIS IS OUR CHANCE TO SAY HOW MUCH YOU ARE VALUED. LET THIS BEAUTIFUL WATCH EVERY TIME YOU WEAR IT REMAIN AS A SYMBOL OF THE VALUE.

CONGRATULATIONS AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY

SAYING I. >> I.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: OKAY. RANDY, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, IF YOU WOULD COME RIGHT HERE I CAN COME DOWN THERE AND THEN COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU WANT TO STAY UP HERE? RANDY, I GUESS YOU COULD COME BACK HERE TOO.

COME BACK OVER HERE. I'LL MOVE THIS CHAIR.

ALL RIGHT. RANDY, IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE. I AM GOING TO FOLD IT AND CLOSE IT RIGHT AFTER TO KEEP IT SAFE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

DON'T FORGET TO BUTTON IT UP AGAIN.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: OKAY. AT THIS TIME WE ARE GOING

[1. Receive third quarter report from Nueces County Engineer regarding Public Work activities, including drainage, flood management, and roads.]

TO -- I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THE DRAINAGE PRESENTATION. WE WILL MOVE TO THE DRAINAGE PRESENTATION AND THEN -- LET'S SEE.

CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME THE NUMBER? IT WOULD BE UNDER PUBLIC WORKS.

>> NUMBER ONE. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: OH, ITEM NUMBER ONE. REGULAR AGENDA 3A1, DISCUSS ISSUES RELATED TO NUECES -- NO, THAT'S NOT IT.

>> PUBLIC WORKS SECTION. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: UNDER PUBLIC WORKS. I'M SORRY.

MY BAD. C1, RECEIVE THIRD QUARTER REPORT FROM NUECES COUNTY ENGINEERS REGARDING PUBLIC WORKS ACTIVITIES INCLUDING DRAINAGE, FLOOD MANAGEMENT AND

ROADS. >> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS,

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GOOD MORNING. WE DID A PRESENTATION FOR THE THIRD QUARTER OF THE YEAR FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

AND IT ALSO OUTLINE HAD DRAINAGE WE HAVE DONE HERE IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS REGARDING THE ISSUES CONSTITUENTS BROUGHT TO YOU THIS MORNING. CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE? IT IS KIND OF AN OVER VIEW.

IT IS LIKE 20 SOMETHING SLIDES, BUT I WILL GO THROUGH THEM PRETTY THOROUGH. OF COURSE ON THE THIRD QUARTER WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET FUNDS AND THE BUILDING FACILITIES, ADA PROJECTS AND ROAD AND BRIDGE AND MULTIPLE SUBDIVISION DRAINAGE WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS AND THEN VECTOR CONTROL. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS A PIE CHART OF THE LAST THIRD QUARTER FOR FISCAL 2021. YOU CAN SEE MOST OF THE MONEY THAT HAS BEEN SPENT IS ON REHAB AND ALSO SOME OF THE OTHER ROAD PROJECTS, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

JUST TO GIVE A BRIEF ON THE NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND THE JAIL, WE HAVE DONE SOME RENOVATIONS AND REPAIRS, REPAINTING FOR REPLACEMENT AND REPAINTING AT THE BISHOP.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS A PHOTO OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE AT THE MACKENZIE ANNEX.

IT IS LIKE A FALL PROTECTION WE HAD TO DO.

WE PUT SOME STAIRS COMING UP WITH SOME RAILING IN ORDER FOR US TO GET ACCESS TO OUR GENERATORS.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS ONE OF THE PODS WE ENDED UP REPAIRING AND RENOVATING SOME OF THE COUNTER TOPS AND PUT SOME STAINLESS STEEL MICROWAVES WITH THE SINK. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND THEN ON THIS ONE, THIS IS FOR THE ANNEX PODS WHERE WE HAVE DONE REMOVAL OF THE INSULATION AND PANEL STRUCTURES. WE HAVE DONE SOME UPGRADES IN THIS SLIDE. THESE ARE BEFORE AND AFTER.

THE PODS ON A, B AND C. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE AS WE REPLACED SOME OF THE LIGHT FIXTURES WITH THE RESISTANT CORRECTIONAL GRADE LED LIGHT FIXTURES AND THAT'S PART OF THE BUDGET FROM LAST YEAR. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE SAME THING OF PODS A AND C.

NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN WE DID SOME RENOVATIONS TO SOME OF THE RESTROOMS ON THE FLOORING OF THE ANNEX. YOU CAN SEE THE BEFORE AND THE AFTER WHERE WE HAVE DONE UPGRADES TO SOME OF THESE FAUCET GASH -- FACILITIES. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND THEN THESE ARE THE SHOWER AREAS WHERE WE HAVE DONE RETILING AND RENOVATIONS ON SOME OF THE DORMS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND THEN SINK RENOVATIONS AT THE DORMS WHERE WE REPLACE THE OLD SINKS WITH THE NEW STAINLESS STEEL SINKS. THEY CAME BACK AND RETOUCHED THE WALL SURFACE AND CLEANED THAT UP.

NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN WE HAVE DONE -- WE UPGRADE UPGRADED SOME OF THE SIGNAGE.

AND WE DID SOME RENOVATIONS AND WE A ROOF CANOPY.

YOU CAN SEE THE BEFORE AND THE AFTER PICTURES.

AND IN IS PRECINCT 5, WE HAVE PUT ENOUGH SIGNS AT THE PRE -- PRECINCT 5 OFFICE. AND THESE ARE COUNTY BUILDINGS WHERE WE HAVE CLEANED THEM UP AND MADE THEM MORE PLEASING.

NEXT SLIDE. WE CLEANED UM THE -- UP THE BUILDINGS AND I KNOW THEY HAVE DONE SOME PRESSURE WASHING AND CLEANED UP SOME OF THE MOLDING ON THE BUILDINGS.

AND OF COURSE AT THE POLSON BUILDING THERE WAS SOME RESTUCCO DONE AND SOME PAINTING.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A COLLAGE OF PHOTOS WE PUT TOGETHER TO IDENTIFY WHAT WE HAVE DONE.

THIS IS JUST REAL BRIEF PHOTOS WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST YEAR WITH OUR BUDGET AND HOW WE USED OUR BUDGET WHERE WE REPLACED WATER HEATERS AND THE AC UNITS AND REPAINTED SOME OF

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THE BUILDINGS AND SOME OF OUR UNDERGROUND PLUMBING.

THE ONE ON THE LEFT SIDE IS ANNEX WHERE WE HAD TO CUT THE CONCRETE IN ORDER TO GET TO THE LEAK WE HAD UNDER THE FOUNDATION. IS -- AND THEN CLEANING OF THE FENCE LINES AND MAKE A DETERRENT SO PEOPLE WOULDN'T COME INTO OUR FACILITIES. AND THEN OF COURSE HERE AT THE COURTHOUSE IS AN OVER VIEW OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITH THE LANDSCAPING. I KNOW WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF LANDSCAPING IN THE PAST YEAR. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE COURTHOUSE LOOKS AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.

THANK YOU, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, FOR HELPING US WITH THAT. WE ARE GONNA KEEP ON DOING SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN NEXT YEAR'S FUNDS, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. NEXT SLIDE -- OH GO BACK.

WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, IS UPGRADED ALL OF THE IRRIGATION THAT WAS -- DILAPIDATED? IS THAT THE CORRECT WORD? WE HAD WATER LEAKS AND SO WE REPLACED THE WHOLE SYSTEM TO GET IRRIGATION TO THE LANDSCAPING. NEXT ONE.

AND THEN I ASKED BOBBIE AND SAID WHAT ARE WE DOING NEXT YEAR, BOBBIE? I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LIST OF WHAT THE PLAN IS. I KNOW SOME OF THE NUMBERS ARE HIGH, BUT WE WILL TACKLE WHATEVER WE CAN FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET TO COMPLETE THESE TASKS.

IF THAT DOESN'T GET COMPLETED WE WILL MOVE IT TO NEXT FISCAL YEAR. THIS GIVES YOU A BRIEF OF THE LIST WE ARE LOOKING TO FOR NEXT YEAR'S FUNDING CYCLE.

YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY HIGH.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND THEN THIS IS A LIST OF ADA PROJECTS PUBLIC WORKS HAS TACKLED.

WE DID THE BISHOP CENTERS, THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THE POSTAL BUILDING AND THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S BUILDING.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT IS IN DESIGN OR WHERE THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED OR WHERE THE PROJECT IS IN A BIDDING PHASE.

YOU CAN SEE THE TOTAL ESTIMATED CRICKS COST OF WHAT IT COSTS -- CONSTRUCTION COST OF WHAT IT COSTS OR WHAT IT IS PLANNING TO COST THE COUNTY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND THEN THESE ARE SOME OF THE ADA PROJECTS AND PHOTOS OF WHAT PUBLIC WORKS HAS DONE IN THE PAST YEAR.

YOU CAN SEE SOME ROOFING PROJECTS AT THE BISHOP BUILDING. THIS IS A COLLAGE OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE. THIS IS A REMINDER.

THERE ARE OTHER PHOTOS, BUT THEY WILL BE DONE WITH REGARDS ADA. NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS THE ROBSON COMMUNITY CENTER.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND THEN THIS IS FOR THE UPCOMING RAILROAD PROJECTS AND THE RT PROGRAM AND THE FAIRGROUNDS WITH RV LOTS CDBG PROJECTS AND THE DRAINAGE PROJECT WHERE THEY ARE HERE TO LISTEN.

NEXT SLIDE. WE MADE A LIST OF WHAT FUTURE PROJECTS ARE FOR 2021. I KNOW, JUDGE, AND COMMISSIONERS, WE WERE ASKED TO PUT A LIST TOGETHER FOR FUTURE ROADS AND WE PUT THIS LIST TOGETHER AT PUBLIC WORKS AND THIS IS WHAT WE FEEL ARE SEVERE -- WELL, NOT SEVERE, BUT ROADS THAT NEED ATTENTION.

WE PUT A LIST TOGETHER AND PUT A COST TO WHAT EACH INDIVIDUAL ROAD WOULD COST. YOU GO DOWN TO THE BOTTOM AND I THINK IT IS LIKE $30 MILLION.

THAT'S ON TOP OF THE 20 WE HAVE ALREADY SPENT IN THE LAST

TWO YEARS? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: TO GET A FEEL FOR HOW MUCH WORK

THERE IS. >> YES, MA'AM.

THERE IS A LOT OF WORK. YES, MA'AM.

NEXT PROJECT. COMMISSIONER, I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN THE NEXT COMMISSIONER'S COURT. THIS IS COUNTY 73A WHERE THE COUNTY DID SOME REPAPER -- REPAVING OF THE ROADS FOR US.

WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT IN MORE DETAIL IN THE NEXT COMMISSIONER'S COURT. ONE IS COUNTY ROAD 52 WHERE THE MARINES CAME IN AND ASSISTED US WITH CLEANING OUT THE DITCHES ON THE DOWN STREET SIDE OF VALLEY VIEW SUBDIVISION. IT DOES NEED A LITTLE MORE CLEANING AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT.

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ONCE WE FINISH THE SUBDIVISION, WE WILL MOVE ON AND CLEAN THAT UP TOO. THE ONE TO THE RIGHT IS 77.

THAT'S A MILE AND A HALF OF ROAD THAT THE MARINES CAME IN AND ASSISTED US IN DOING THE ROAD AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND THEN A COLLAGE OF PHOTOS FROM THE FEAR -- THE FAIRGROUNDS AND ALSO SOME ADDITIONAL OR SOME OTHER WORK THEY ASSISTED US. THEY PUT THREE TO FOUR INCHES OF HOT MIX ON THAT SURFACE AND DID SOME BASE REPAIRS AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB ON THIS PARKING LOT.

NEXT ONE. THIS IS CDBG.

THIS IS COUNTY ROAD 77 AND BOWER.

THEY ARE COMPLETE, BUT NEED MINOR CLEANING.

THEY ARE 99% COMPLETE ON THOSE PROJECTS.

THEY REMOVED COUNTY ROAD 67 AND HOPEFULLY THE PROJECT GOES AS SMOOTH AS THESE PROJECTS WENT THROUGH.

HOPEFULLY THEY WILL GO AS SMOOTH ON THE CONSTRUCTION

SIDE. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: AND JUST FOR THE AUDIENCE, YOU MAY REMIND THEM THAT CDBG IS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT AND THEY ARE DOLLARS THAT COME TO US FROM HUD AND THEN TO THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE AS A RESPONSE TO A HURRICANE.

WE BOTH GOT A FEDERAL AND LOCAL DISASTER DECLARATION.

WE CALL THIS DR. YOU WILL HEAR CDBG USED ALL OVER THE PLACE. IT IS IMPORTANT -- AS I SAY, ALL OF YOU ARE GREAT ADVOCATES FOR YOURSELF AND YOU CAN LEARN HOW TO BE A STRONGER ADVOCATE IF YOU KNOW YOU CAN COME IN AND SAY HOW MUCH MONEY YOU CAN SPEND ON GETTING THE CULVERTS CLEANED AND THE LABOR DONE. SOMETIMES IT COMES FROM DISASTER RECOVERY AND MITIGATION PROJECTS.

I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU ON MAKING CERTAIN THAT NOT ONLY DO WE DO THE WORK, BUT WE WORK TOGETHER ON THE DOLLARS THAT WILL HELP US DO THAT WORK.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE. THESE WERE DOLLARS THAT WERE DEDICATED TO ROADS. THEY COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN DEDICATED TO PROJECTS LIKE VALLEY VIEW.

OUR NEXT ROUND I CAN TELL YOU WE CAN DEDICATE TO THIS TYPE OF WORK. WE TAKE IT FOR GRANTED AND EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THESE ACRONYMNS MEAN.

IT IS CDBR. >> AND IT IS OVER $3 MILLION.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IT IS.

IT IS STRONG. THERE IS ANOTHER ROUND OF DISASTER DOLLARS. ONE IS HDMP, A HAZARD MITIGATION AND MY WHEELS ARE SPINNING ON HOW WE CAN USE THOSE DOLLARS. WE CAN ALWAYS DO BANDAIDS TO PROTECT WHAT WE SEE IMMINENTLY HAPPENING.

WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO AFFECT ALL OF THE MORE PERMANENT FIXES.

YOU'RE RIGHT. GRACE IS COMING.

WHY DID THEY NAME IT GRACE? GEE, WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE? GO AHEAD, JUAN.

>> NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND THEN CIT PROJECTS, I KNOW WE HAVE A LIST OF THOSE. I KNOW THAT'S THE ONE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON. IT IS COUNTY ROAD 67 AND 69.

67 IS COMPLETE. 69 IS ALSO COMPLETE.

WE HAVE COUNTY ROAD 22 AND COUNTY ROAD 49 THAT IS BEING WORKED ON AT THIS TIME. WE DON'T HAVE A PHOTO FOR IT, BUT CONTRACTORS ARE OUT THERE WORKING ON IT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND THEN THIS IS DRAIN NEGLIGENT -- DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT.

THIS IS THE VALLEY VIEW. JUDGE AND COMITIALERS, -- JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, WE ARE OUT THERE WORKING.

ALL WE CAN DO IS WORK. I KNOW WE HAVE -- I DON'T LIKE TO MAKE ANY EXCUSES, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF STAFF AND WE HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF EQUIPMENT. WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY OF CLEANING THE DITCHES, BUT WE ARE GONNA DO IT.

WE'RE GONNA GET THESE DITCHES CLEANED OUT.

WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT GOING IN AND CLEANING THE CULVERTS IN THE DITCH. WE GOT APPROVAL TO HYDRO BLAST THOSE CULVERTS NOT ONLY ON THE DOWNSTREAM SIDE, BUT WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION ITSELF. WE HAVE A PROPOSAL THAT IS ABOUT 30 SOMETHING THOUSAND TO PERFORM THAT TASK.

WE WILL BE MOVING IN ON THAT PROJECT AND WE WILL BRING IT

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INTO COURT FOR APPROVAL. I DO WANT TO THANK THE CONSTITUENTS. I KNOW MR. HILSHER AND HIS SONS WERE OUT THERE HELPING US OUT.

I KNOW WHEN WE HAD THE 13-INCH RAIN EVENT THEY BROUGHT IN THEIR SIX-INCH PUMP TO ASSIST US.

WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT, COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ.

I KNOW YOU ARE AWARE OF THAT. FOR HIS TWO SONS TO HELP US OUT AND BRING A PUMP, WE WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THAT.

I KNOW I MENTIONED IT IN THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS, BUT WE WANT TO THANK HIM AND HIS SONS FOR ASSISTING US WITH THAT.

THANK Y'ALL. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: AND CAN WE ADDRESS -- I TOOK SOME NOTES WHILE THE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WERE TALKING. LET'S ADDRESS PARTICULARLY -- THE PARTICULAR CROSSING THAT IS DEFINITELY OURS.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WE HAVE A STORM IN THE GULF -- LET ME CORRECT MYSELF.

IT IS IN THE CARIBBEAN AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE TRAJECTORY IS THE LOWER GULF. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO AT LEAST THOSE THINGS THAT WOULD ASSIST US -- YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK AND LIMITED EVERYTHING, BUT WHAT WE ARE NOT LIMITED ON ARE IDEAS TO FIX THINGS. WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS FOR YOU TO TELL ME HOW WE CAN FIX IT.

WE COULD HIRE A CONTRACTOR AHEAD OF THIS STORM, WHERE YOU'RE NOT DOING IT, BUT YOU COULD BE SUPERVISING IT.

WE ARE THE POLICY MAKERS, SO WE GET TO MAKE THE DECISION ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO SPEND DOLLARS.

WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE AMERICAN RELIEF PLAN ACT DOLLARS THAT SPECIFICALLY TARGET DRAINAGE. WHAT I WOULD ASK YOU IS YOU NEED TO COMMUNICATE WITH ME IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE WE CAN POST A MEETING WITHIN 72 HOURS FOR A SPECIAL MEETING.

IF YOU TELL ME THAT YOU CAN -- THAT CROSSING DRAIN IS IMPORTANT. THE OTHER THING THAT IS IMPORTANT IS THE MAIN CHOKE POINT.

I LIKE THE WAY YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE I CAN VISUALIZE THAT AND I BET EVERYBODY ELSE CAN TOO.

WE CAN -- JUST LIKE WE CAN PRE POSITION OURSELVES FOR CONTRACTS BECAUSE OF A STORM COMING, WE CAN DO SOMETHING IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT NOW THAT WILL HELP GET THIS DONE.

I AM WONDERING IF YOU THINK THAT'S A POSSIBILITY TO WORK ON AFTER THIS -- AFTER YOU MAKE THIS PRESENTATION SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE EXTRA ARMS IN THE FIELD.

>> YES, MA'AM. WE DO HAVE A PROPOSAL FOREGOING OUT -- FOR GOING OUT AND CLEANING OUT THE CULVERTS. WE RECEIVED IT LAST WEEK.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IS IT UNDER 50,000?

>> IT IS UNDER 50,000, JUDGE. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: DO YOU THINK YOU CAN PUT THAT THROUGH THE PIPELINE TODAY?

>> YES, MA'AM. IN REGARDS TO THE CHOKE POINT UNDER THE IRRIGATION CANAL, WE JUST HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. I KNOW THE CULVERTS WERE SET THERE SO MANY YEARS AGO, BEFORE MY TIME.

SO IN ORDER FOR US TO GO AND PUT ANOTHER CULVERT OR ADD SOMETHING TO IT, WHAT HAPPENS IS ONCE YOU HAVE A WATER SHED AND YOU ARE DRAINING IT THROUGH A PIPE, SOME PIPES, YOU PUT ANOTHER CULVERT AND YOU ARE RELEASING MORE WATER ON THE DOWNSTREAM SIDE. NOW YOU WILL HAVE PEOPLE ON THE DOWNSTREAM SIDE AND CREATE AN ISSUE ON THE DOWNWARD PORTION. WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL.

I KNOW THERE IS A DRAINAGE REPORT BEING DONE TO IDENTIFY WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITHIN THIS WATER SHED.

MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO WAIT FOR ASSOCIATES TO PROVIDE THAT REPORT AND THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND DETERMINE IF THE CULVERTS CAN BE INCREASED OR IF WE HAVE THEM WHERE THEY ARE AT RIGHT NOW OR JUST GOING THERE.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WHY DON'T YOU CALL -- YOU'RE RIGHT. MAYBE THEY ARE NOT FINISHED AND WE NEED TO WAIT FOR THEIR REPORT, BUT WHAT IF YOU TELL THEM THERE IS A STORM COMING. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE AND WHAT CAN YOU CONCLUDE NOW? MAYBE THEY CAN HAVE SOMETHING

THAT WOULD HELP RIGHT NOW. >> WE WILL SET UP A MEETING

WITH THEM. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: LIKE IMMEDIATELY. IF YOU NEED MY HELP, LET ME KNOW. THE OTHER THING I WROTE DOWN IS THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN TXDOT AND THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. NO COURT JUDGE LIKES ANYBODY TO COME IN AND SAY THERE IS NO COMMUNICATION.

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DO YOU THINK -- THIS IS NOT -- I'M TELLING YOU THAT -- THIS IS NOT ME TELLING YOU YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG.

LET ME FINISH BEFORE YOU INTERJECT.

WE HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO DO THAT PROPERLY, BY THE WAY.

WHAT I WANT TO DO IS FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN CHANGE THAT.

LET US BE THE LEADERS. LET US BE THE GOOD EXAMPLE.

LET'S SEE IF YOU CAN CALL VALENTE AND CHARLES, OUR DISTRICT ENGINEER FROM TXDOT AND LET HIM KNOW THAT THERE IS A REAL PERCEPTION -- IT DOESN'T MATTER IF ANYBODY HAS DONE ANYTHING RIGHT OR WRONG. THERE IS JUST A PERCEPTION THAT WE NEED TO CLEAR UP AND MAYBE BY WORKING WITH TXDOT AND YOU BEING THE LEADER WE CAN SET THE GOOD EXAMPLE SO EVERYBODY DOESN'T COME IN HERE AND -- THAT'S LIKE IMAGINED.

I HEARD IT 10 TIMES FROM EVERYBODY, FROM CONSTITUENTS AND FROM DEVELOPERS. I TRUST YOU CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO LEAD

THE PACK IN THAT? >> EXCUSE ME, JUDGE.

EXCUSE ME, JUAN. JUAN, DIDN'T WE HAVE A MEETING LAST WEEK WITH THE STATE PEOPLE?

>> YES. WE HAD A MEETING WITH VALENTE AND CHARLES LAST WEEK, WITH TXDOT REGARDING THIS DRAINAGE AREA WITH 1889. THEY UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE TO DO MAINTENANCE ON THEIR DITCHES AND THEY ARE PLANNING ON DOING THAT IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, RIGHT, COMMISSIONER?

>> THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID. >> I HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES REGARDING THE LAKE SUBDIVISION WHICH IS WEST OF THE VALLEY VIEW AND I TALKED TO HIM A FEW WEEKS AGO AND THEY BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION AND TALKED TO DINA AND AL RAYMOND AND WE WILL TALK TO THE DEVELOPER TO DETERMINE WHAT CAN BE DONE.

MY OPINION, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE A DETENTION POND THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR 50 TO 20 YEARS.

AND PROBABLY THAT DETENTION POND WHEN YOU SEE PROJECT MAIN THANED -- WHICH IS NOT IN OUR JURISDICTION, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. THAT'S IN CORPUS CHRISTI AND THAT'S PART OF THE SUBDIVISION.

I DO AGREE WITH THE CONSTITUENTS.

WHEN YOU HAVE A RAIN EVENT YOU DO SEE SOME OF THE WATER CROSSING 1889 AND IT STARTS GOING INTO VALLEY VIEW.

WE DID TALK TO OUR -- TO VALENTE AND CHARLES LAST WEEK AND WE TOLD THEM ABOUT THAT. THEIR PLAN IS TO GO OUT THERE AND MAINTAIN THE DITCHES AND THEY PUT IT IN THEIR PLAN.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THEY DID SAY THEY WOULD PUT IT IN

THEIR PLAN? >> YES, MA'AM.

HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WHAT I LIKE TO DO NOWADAYS IS SEE IF YOU CAN GET AN EMAIL TO THAT EFFECT IN WRITING AND THEN GO AHEAD AND CIRCULATE IT TO TINER AND THAT WAY WE CAN GIVE IT TO THE CONSTITUENTS. IT IS ALWAYS NICE TO KNOW THAT SOMEONE HAS PUT IT IN WRITING AND WE COULD ASK OUR LEGISLATORS IN THAT AREA TO BE COPIED ON IT AND THAT WAY THERE IS ACCOUNTABILITY FOR IT.

I THINK THAT'S A SMART THING. I BELIEVE THEY HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS, BUT IF THEY REALLY WANT TO MAKE IT HELPFUL, THEN WE'LL PUT IT IN WRITING. ON THE CITY SIDE TOO, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO DO A FOLLOW-UP EMAIL WHERE EVERYBODY IS COPYING EACH OTHER AND SAY, HEY, I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE KNOW BASED ON EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY THAT BLUE WATER IS CROSSING 1889 AND UNLESS THE GULF OF MEXICO HAS DECIDED TO COME IN AND GRACE US WITH HIS PRESENCE IN THE COUNTRY, THAT BLUE WATER IS COMING FROM THIS LOCATION.

WHEN WE DOCUMENT IT, WE CREATE A RECORD.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IT IS HARD WHEN WE ARE TRYING TO -- I KNOW YOU'RE EVERYWHERE AND TRYING TO DO THINGS, BUT IT IS THAT RECORD THAT MATTERS.

AND THAT WAY WE CAN GO BACK TO IT.

SIR, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? THE ONLY THING I ASK IS BECAUSE WE ARE ON VIDEO YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE MIC. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET UP.

CONNIE WILL BRING IT TO YOU. I KNOW.

THEY ALWAYS TELL ME WE HAVE TO HAVE THE MIC.

GO AHEAD. THIS IS WHAT -- WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

>> WHEN YOU -- WHEN JUAN MENTIONS HE IS WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO DO A STUDY AND SOMEONE TO SAY WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE AND SOMEONE TO SAY HOW IT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED, IN THE MEANTIME, I LOVE YOUR IDEA OF MAKING SURE AT WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE RIGHT NOW. THAT WHOLE AREA HAS NOT BEEN MAINTAINED IN AWHILE. AND AT LEAST NOW AND LIKE YOU SAY IMMINENTLY, BRING THAT CHOKE POINT BACK TO WHAT ITS

ORIGINAL -- >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: JUST

TO STATUS QUO. >> YEAH.

YOU MAY HAVE TO GO BACK IN A MONTH OR TWO AND MAKE IT BIGGER, BETTER OR WHATEVER. BUT FOR NOW WHAT THE I'M MA INEPT -- POTENTIALLY IMMINENT RAINFALL COMING UP, AT LEAST

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GET IT BACK TO WHAT IT ORIGINALLY WAS DESIGNED TO.

THE CROSSING ITSELF HAS ACTUALLY GOT WATER IN IT.

YOU CAN'T TELL HOW MUCH AREA THERE IS FOR THE WATER TO GO THROUGH. THERE'S NO WAY TO TELL WITHOUT DOING SOME WORK. THE CULVERT THAT'S ARE IN THE NORTH-SOUTH DITCH THAT LEAD UP TO THAT, THOSE ARE THERE, AND THAT USED TO BE A THREE OR FOUR-FOOT DIAMETER CORRUGATED IRON CULVERT IN THERE, A SINGLE PIPE, THIS BIG IN DIAMETER. AND NOW IT IS LIKE THREE 20-INCH CONCRETE PIPES. THAT'S OBVIOUSLY RESTRICTING FLOW. I THINK THE MAN'S NAME IS JERRY. HE WAS AT THE MEETING AND HE SAID, YEAH, THAT WENT ON WHEN THEY PUT THE WATER LINE IN.

THAT'S OBVIOUSLY DONE LATELY. I SAY LATELY AND IT IS THE LAST FIVE YEARS OR SOMETHING. IF WE CAN JUST GET THINGS BACK THE WAY THEY WERE AS FAR AS THE DRAINAGE GOES.

WITH TALKING WITH THE CITY AND THE DOT, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE DUMPED THE WATER IN THAT.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HECK IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

WE APPRECIATE YOU LOOKING AFTER THAT TOO.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S IT. I'M SORRY.

>> AND JUDGE, I WANT TO ADD ALSO IN ADDITION TO THE NUECES COUNTY WATER DISTRICT OUT THERE, KNOWING I HAD TALKED TO THEM ABOUT IT AND THAT'S THE REASON NUECES COUNTY WATER DISTRICT WAS OUT THERE MOWING THOSE LOCATIONS WITH THE MOWERS. THEY WERE ALSO PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS REGARDING FLOODING.

WE ARE COORDINATING WITH TXDOT.

I AGREE WITH YOU, JUDGE. WE NEED A MORE ENCLOSED MEETING WITH ALL OF US. WE'LL DO THAT, AND I KNOW WE'LL GET WITH THE COMMISSIONER AND I KNOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SETTING UP ANOTHER MEETING.

>> THANK YOU, JUAN. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I WANT US TO BE THE LEADER BECAUSE WE ARE THE LEAD APPLICANT FOR THE DRAINAGE STUDY THAT IS THREE COUNTIES.

AND SO I THINK GOING IN AND MAKING SURE EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE WOULD BE HELPFUL.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS -- >> JUDGE I WANT TO SAY THAT I THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN WHAT WE ARE DOING OUT THERE.

WHAT WOULD BE MOST HELPFUL IS SOME OF THAT MONEY THAT'S BEING ALLOCATED BY THE AMERICAN PLAN, IF YOU COULD HELP US GET JUAN THE EQUIPMENT HE NEEDS.

THREE WEEKS AGO I HAD TO RENT TWO GRADES TO GET THE WORK DONE. WE GOT THE MONEY IN AND IF YOU CAN HELP US GET JUAN THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED TO DO

THE WORK OUT THERE. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: AS YOU KNOW, I THINK I JUST SAID THE AMERICAN RELIEF PLAN ACT, I DON'T CONTROL THOSE FUNDS. WE CONTROL THOSE FUNDS.

TODAY ON OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT PRIORITIZATION.

SO I AM WELCOMING THAT DISCUSSION.

I HAVE THE EXPERTS ON THE LINE, KRISTEN KERR, WHO CAN DISCUSS WHAT QUALIFIES AND WHAT DOES DOESN'T.

I AM WAITING FOR THE PROPOSAL JUAN SAID HE GOT ON FRIDAY.

THAT WOULD BE GOOD. I AM LOOKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIRE MOVER -- MORE CONTRACTORS.

BUYING EQUIPMENT VERSUS LEASING IT, I I DON'T THINK THESE FINE FOLKS CARE HOW WE DO IT, JUST WE DO IT.

I DON'T THINK THEY WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH WHO WE BUY IT FROM AND UNDER WHAT MECHANISM WHETHER IT IS A LEASE ORDEAL.

OR A DEAL. LET'S NOT CONFUSE THE DOING

WITH ON YOU WE ARE DOING IT. >> YES, JUST GET IT DONE.

LET'S JUST GET IT DONE. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IN THE PROCESS SINCE YOU OPENED THE DOOR, IT IS IMPORTANT THESE GOOD PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE PROCESSES WE DO. I DON'T BELIEVE IN DOING IT ANYWAY BUT THE RIGHT WAY. THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION THIS AFTERNOON AND AS THEY SAY, DRAINAGES ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT PLATFORM.

THE OTHER THING WE CAN DO, JUAN, IS YOU CAN CALL SUSAN ROTH THIS AFTERNOON AND ASK HER IF THERE ARE ANY EMERGENCY FUNDING FROM TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD WE CAN SEEK NOT JUST FOR EQUIPMENT, BUT FOR PROJECTS.

I WILL MAKE CERTAIN WE GO AND -- I BET SOMEBODY IN THIS AUDIENCE WILL GO WITH ME AND GO TO AUSTIN AND MAKE AN IMPASSIONED PLEA. I BET WE COULD GET SOME WATER DEVELOPMENT DOLLARS ON AN EMERGENCY BASIS IF THERE WERE ANY TO HAVE. IF THAT DIDN'T WORK WE COULD GO TO ANOTHER ONE. AS A FINAL, THERE IS A NEW --

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LAST COURT, WHEN I SAW YOU LAST AND YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER BECAUSE IT WAS AT THE END, BUT WE PASSED -- WE DID AN RFP, A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, AND THEY KNOW ALL ABOUT OUR FLOODING.

THEY ARE GOING TO WRITE FOR US ALONG WITH MARIA OUR GRANT DIRECTOR, THE NEW GRANT FOR FEMA'S NEW HAZARD MITIGATION AND THERE IS A BRICK GRANT, BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT, WE CAN WRITE GRANTS. I KNOW YOU WILL SAY THAT TAKES FOREVER. YEAH, WHAT WE ARE DOING IS A QUICK FIX. BUT WHAT IF JUAN'S RECOMMENDATION OR THEY WANT US TO SPEND $5 MILLION, WE HAVE A LINEUP NOW TO HAVE THE MONEY COME IN WHEN WE ARE READY FOR IT. ALWAYS TELL YOURSELF I AM PLAYING THE FIRST DOWN TO GET TO THE TOUCHDOWN.

DON'T THINK WE CAN'T PLAN AHEAD AND IT IS WORTHLESS.

IT IS NOT WORTHLESS. I HAVE SEEN IT WORK.

WE HAVE TO GET THE FIRST DOWNS FIRST.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR HERE TODAY.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE HEAR YOU.

JUAN, DO YOU WANT TO FINISH WITH THIS LAST FEW SLIDES?

>> YES. JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, YOU CAN SEE THE RENTAL EQUIPMENT WITH THE ASSISTANCE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. REAL QUICK ON THE VECTOR CONTROL AND MOSQUITO SPRAY, THIS IS A GIS MAP OF WHAT IS IDENTIFYING THE NIGHT BEFORE THE VECTOR CONTROL SPRAYS THE NIGHT BEFORE AND SO IT TRACKS THE SPRAYING OF WHERE WE GO.

SHY -- SHE IS HERE NOW AND SHE IS TRYING TO GET THE DATA AND YOU ALL CAN HAVE THIS EXHIBIT ON YOUR COMPUTER THE NEXT DAY AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE HAVE BEEN SPRAYING THE NIGHT BEFORE WITH THE VECTOR CONTROL. THIS IS A TOOL WE HAVE AND WE ARE TRACKING VECTOR CONTROL SPRAY.

>> JUAN, I APPRECIATE THAT AND APPRECIATE THE UPDATES.

I THINK OTHER JURISDICTIONS GET THE WORD OUT AND IT IS GREAT TO SEE WHAT HAS HAPPENED.

THEY WANT TO ANTICIPATE WHERE IT IS GOING TO BE.

THEY WANT TO KNOW, IS IT COMING TO MY AREA? IF WE CAN WORK ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THEY DO A GREAT JOB IN GIVING US THE VECTOR AREA, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE VECTOR AREA. I DON'T KNOW.

I NEED TO LOOK AT A MAP FOR THAT.

WE WANT TO LOOK AT WHERE IT IS GOING AND IT IS GREAT TO SEE IN DETAIL AND IT IS BEYOND WHAT ANYONE IS OFFERING IN OUR REGION AND THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

WHEN WRY GET THOSE REQUESTS -- WHEN WE GET THOSE REQUESTS THEY HAVE TO GO BACK AND WE WILL LOOK AND SEE WHERE IT IS AND PINPOINT IT AND FIND IT IN THE MAPS YOU HAVE GIVEN US.

WE WILL GET SOMETHING CONCLUDED.

IF IT DOESN'T ADD SOMETHING, I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW MUCH EFFORT THIS WILL TAKE TO PUT TOGETHER AND TO PUT OUT FOR US AND THROUGH OUR SOCIAL MEDIA AVENUES TO HELP EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON THAT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO YOU. THAT'S SOMETHING YOU KNOW I HAVE ASKED FOR. WE CAN GET TO THAT POINT ONE DAY I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

>> WE'LL GET THAT MAP TO YOU. NEXT SLIDE BLEST.

PLEASE. REMEMBER I SENT YOU, AND I LOVE IT, BUT, THE DRONES. WHEN THINGS ARE TOUGH HOW DO YOU GET MORE PEOPLE DOING MORE THINGS? YOU TRAIN PEOPLE TO USE TECHNOLOGY SO YOU CAN KEEP YOUR PEOPLE IN PLACE THAT USE TECHNOLOGY AND JUAN IS GONNA LOOK INTO IT FOR THE FUTURE. IT IS MOSQUITO CONTROL.

WE THOUGHT OUR BUFFALO TURBINE SPRAYERS WERE THE GREATEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD AND NOW WE FOUND YOU CAN SPRAY BETTER USING DRONES, THE WAY WE DO CROP DUSTING.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE IN OUR FUTURE.

GO AHEAD. >> AND JUDGE, I AM GLAD YOU TALK ABOUT THE BUFFALO TURBINES.

I WAS TALKING TO VICTOR ABOUT THAT.

VICTOR OR VECTOR? >> VICTOR WITH VECTOR.

EVERYTHING GETS SO HEATED AROUND HERE.

SORRY THAT I ACTUALLY KNEW THAT AND HAD TO PLAY THAT CARD, BUT WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT THERE ARE LIGHTHEARTED MOMENTS IN GOVERNMENT. VICTOR WITH VECTOR.

>> VICTOR WITH VECTOR. BAR GO AHEAD --

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: GO AHEAD.

>> WITH THE TURBINE BLOWERS, AND HE TOLD ME THAT THEY HAVE

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ASSISTED US A LOT. THEY MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF SPRAYING THEY HAVE TO DO AFTER THEY SPRAY THE SITE.

I KNOW WE ARE GETTING ANOTHER TOUR -- TURBINE BLOWER THIS MONTH AND IT WILL HELP US OUT WITH OUR VECTOR CONTROL.

ON THIS SLIDE JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, IT IS A REAL QUICK -- HOW CAN I SAY IT? IT IS A GRAPH.

WE HAD 700 MILES OF ROAD WE HAD TO DO AND WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS IT IS UP TO 767 MILES.

THE LINE ON THE BOTTOM SHOWS US WHAT OUR MAN POWER IS AND WHAT OUR EQUIPMENT IS. IT IS PRETTY MUCH A STRAIGHT LINE. I KNOW I MENTIONED THIS IN OUR BUDGET PRESENTATION. WE CAN INCREASE THE MAINTENANCE OF OUR AREA, HOWEVER OUR CREWS AND EQUIPMENT -- IT IS STAYING THE SAME.

IN ORDER FOR US TO CATCH UP IS WE NEED TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT AND HOPEFULLY ADDITIONAL STAFF IN THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. WE CAN SEE THAT ANYTIME YOU GET A MILE YOU MULTIPLY IT BY TWO.

IT IDENTIFYING -- IT IDENTIFIES TO THE RIGHT OF HOW IT INCREASES. NEXT SLIDE.

ONE THING I DO WANT TO MENTION IS I KNOW YOU ALL GET A LOT OF CALLS AND GET A LOT OF EMAILS REGARDING FLOODING AND ROADS, BUT WE RECOMMEND THOSE COME TO PUBLIC WORKS SO WE CAN DO A WORK ORDER AND PUT A WORK ORDER IN IN OUR SYSTEM AND THAT KIND OF TELLS OUR FOREMEN AND OUR SUPERVISORS AND ALSO OUR LEAD FOREMEN TO GO OUT TO THESE AREAS AND SEE WHAT IS GOING ON. CONTACT OUR OFFICE AND FEEL FREE -- I KNOW A LOT OF THESE CONSTITUENTS HAVE MY EMAIL.

HAVE I GOTTEN SOME EMAILS -- I HAVE GOTTEN SOME EMAILS FROM THEM. THAT'S WHAT I AM HERE FOR.

I KNOW I RESPONDED TO THEIR EMAILS AND TO THEIR CALLS.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. THANK YOU, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. I'M DONE WITH THE PRESENTATION. MR. ZAMORA, COULD SOMEBODY PASS THE MIC TO MR. ZAMORA. DO WE HAVE PEOPLE CLEANING THE MIC? LET'S DO THAT REAL QUICK.

THANK YOU. >> HI X GOOD MORNING.

APPRECIATE YOU ALL. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: MR. ZAMORA MAY HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, JUAN.

>> THANK YOU. DOWN AT THE END OF COUNTY ROAD 52B ON THE RIGHT SIDE OR THE SOUTH SIDE, THERE IS -- THERE ARE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE ACRES I BELIEVE BELONG TO THE COUNTY.

THEY ARE PART OF NUECES COUNTY.

WE SPOKE -- MR. PIMENTEL AND I SPOKE AFTER THE MAY FLOOD.

IS THERE A POSSIBILITY -- NOW I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD BE A BANDAID OR BENEFICIAL OR MORE DISASTROUS TO THE FLOODING ISSUE, BUT IF A RETENTION POND COULD BE DEVELOPED THERE FOR THE SAKE OF HOLDING SOME OF THE FLOODWATERS OR THE EXCESS WATER.

GLEN -- AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS MORE BENEFICIAL OR DISASTROUS TO THE ISSUE OF THE FLOODING.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT PERHAPS COULD BE CONSIDERED.

THANK YOU. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THANK

YOU MR. ZAMORA. >> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, WE ARE HAVING ASSOCIATES LOOK AT THAT AS PART OF THEIR STUDY TO DETERMINE IF THAT AREA COULD BE USED AS A FUTURE DETENTION AND RETENTION POND AS PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION.

ONCE WE GET THAT STUDY WE WILL MAKE SURE WE PASS THAT ON.

WE ARE LOOKING TO IT. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THANK YOU. WE WILL PASS THE MIC TO HER.

GO AHEAD. THAT WOULD BE GREAT, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. I WILL BE BRIEF.

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JUST WANTED TO MAKE AN -- TO MAKE A POINT REGARDING THINGS SAID HERE TODAY. I AM PENNY HELCHER AND I LIVE AT 3646 COUNTY ROAD 52B IN THE VALLEY VIEW SUBDIVISION.

MY HUSBAND PREVIOUSLY SPOKE. ONE THING I WANTED TO SAY AND TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF IS THAT THE NEIGHBORS IN OUR VALLEY VIEW DISTRICT, SOME OF THEM HAVE ALREADY PUT THEIR HOUSES UP FOR SALE REGARDING THIS FLOODING ISSUE.

I HAVE HEARD SEVERAL OTHERS SAY IF THIS HAPPENS AGAIN, THEY WILL BE PUTTING THEIR HOUSES UP FOR SALE.

NOW, IF THAT HAPPENS, TAX DOLLARS GO.

DON'T THEY? >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YES,

MA'AM. >> FROM THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA. IF WE CAN'T SELL OUR HOMES BECAUSE LEGALLY WE HAVE TO MAKE KNOWN TO THE POTENTIAL BUYERS THAT A FLOOD DID HAPPEN IN THOSE HOMES.

THE PRICE GOES DOWN. TAX DOLLARS GOES DOWN.

THAT JUST MIGHT -- I WANTED TO MAKE THAT KNOWN THAT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AS FAR AS ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE WITH THE FLOODING.

IF PEOPLE LEAVE THAT AREA, TAX DOLLARS GO.

THEN WHAT? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I

APPRECIATE IT. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THANK YOU. YOU'RE RIGHT.

ECONOMIC IMPACT IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER.

YES, SIR. GO AHEAD.

GO ON UP. IT'S YOUR HOUSE.

>> THE OTHER THING THAT CAME TO OUR ATTENTION THAT I THOUGHT WAS MAKING ME A BIT NERVOUS WAS WHEN WE HAD TWO DIFFERENT -- ON THE TWO DIFFERENT FLOOD OWE -- OCCASIONS WE HAD FLOOD INSURANCE THROUGH FEMA.

WE HAD TWO ASSESSORS COME IN TO CHECK THE DAMAGE AND WRITE ALL OF THAT UP. BOTH OF THOSE GENTLEMEN, WE MENTIONED THAT MR. PIMENTEL WILL SET UP A MEETING SO THIS COULD ALL BE DISCUSSED WITH NUECES COUNTY AND THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND DOT. AND THEY BOTH TOLD ME THAT WHEN I GET NOTIFICATION THAT THAT MEETING IS BEING SET UP, MAKE SURE THE FEMA AREA REPRESENTATIVE KNOWS ABOUT IT. THEY WANT TO SEE WHAT HAS GONE ON. IF THERE IS A ROOT CAUSE AND WHATEVER SO THEY CAN DETERMINE WHAT THEIR NEXT COURSE OF ACTION IS. THE SECOND GENTLEMAN THAT CAME IN ACTUALLY SAID THAT HE WAS GOING TO CONTACT DARK DASH I GAVE HIM PIMENTELE'S NAME AND NUMBER AND HE WAS ON THE MAILING LIST. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ALL -- IF THEY CONTACTED HIM OR NOT, BUT THE FEMA PEOPLE WERE INTERESTED IN THE PATH FORWARD FOR THE RESOLUTION ALSO.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT IT IS --

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IT IS A GOOD POINT.

I THINK, JUAN, YOU WOULD CONCUR WITH THAT.

GO AHEAD AND TAKE YOUR MIC. >> I HAVEN'T RECEIVED A CALL FROM FEMA, BUT I KNOW THEY WERE TRYING TO SET UP A MEETING WITH EVERYBODY IN THE CITY AND TXDOT AND TO BE IN ONE ROOM ALONG WITH THE REQUEST OF COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ AND WE WILL HAVE THAT MEETING WITH THE CONSTITUENTS. WE ARE PLANNING ON HAVING THAT MEETING. WE JUST WANTED TO TOUCH BASE WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL ENTITY TO KNOW THAT -- TO KNOW WHAT THE ISSUES ARE, JUDGE, AND WHAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION. WE ARE PLANNING ON HAVING THAT MEETING. AND WE DID TELL THE CITY AND WE DID TELL TXDOT THAT WE ARE HAVING THAT MEETING AND WE WILL WILL BE INVITING THEM. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO CALL THOSE

INDIVIDUALS. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: AND NOW WE ARE MEMORIAL LIDSING IT IN WRITING.

WHEN THEY SAID YOU DIDN'T TELL ME, WE SCAN SAY YES, I DID.

THAT HAPPENED TO ME 10 TIMES THIS MORNING.

YOU DIDN'T TELL ME. YES, I DID.

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IT IS RIGHT HERE. IT IS A POWERFUL TOOL WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO ATTACK IS THAT YOU CAN SAY YES, I DID CONFIRM. LAWYER DOES IT ALL THE TIME.

IN FACT, THEY ARE TYPICALLY REQUIRED TO DO IT.

IT TURNS OUT TO BE A -- I GET IT NOW.

IT IS A GOOD PRACTICE. IT WILL PROTECT US FROM THE HE SAID-SHE SAID. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND THAT'S A THEME LATELY.

>> YES, MA'AM. I DO WANT TO ADD, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, REGARDING DRAINAGE, WHEN THE DEVELOPERS DEVELOPED THE DITCHES, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DEVELOP THEM FOR FIVE YEARS. BASED ON THE RAIN EVENTS WE HAD WE WERE CLOSE AND/OR ABOVE THE HUNDRED-YEAR FLOOD WE GOT. IN OTHER WORDS WE GOT 13 TO 15 INCHES OF RAIN IN A DAY. WHEN THEY ARE PART OF A -- WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ROAD SIDE DITCHES.

THEY ARE DESIGNED FOR A FIVE-YEAR STORM.

TXDOT ARE IN A HUNDRED-YEAR STORM.

I AM NOT SURE WHAT THEY DESIGNED FOR, BUT ANY MAJOR CROSSING IS EITHER DESIGNED FOR A 25-YEAR, 50-YEAR OR 100-YEAR. THESE ARE OLDER STRUCTURES AND MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY.

I AM TALKING ABOUT THE DOWNSTREAM SIDE.

I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT -- IN OTHER WORDS, WE ARE STILL LIMITED. JERRY AND I DRIVE OUT THERE EVERY TIME IT RAINS AND COMMISSIONERS YOU DRIVE OUT THERE AND JUDGE, YOU DRIVE OUT THERE WHEN IT RANTS TO IDENTIFY -- WHEN IT RAINS TO IDENTIFY ANY ISSUES.

SOME OF THESE DITCHES ON THE DOWNSTREAM SIDE AND THE MAIN CULVERT CROSSINGS, THEY ALREADY MET THEIR CAPACITY.

IF THEY MEET THEIR CAPACITY, THEN EVEN THOUGH IF YOU ADD ANOTHER CULVERT OR AD ANOTHER -- ADD ANOTHER STRUCTURE, IN MY OPINION THERE WILL STILL BE SOMEBODY ON THE DOWN -- DOWNSTREAM SIDE. THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE GONE TO A DETENTION POND TO HOLD THE PRE AND POST CONDITIONS OF THE RAINFALL INTENSITIES WE ARE RECOMMENDING AND REQUESTING FOR THE DEVELOPERS TO DESIGN FOR A HUNDRED-YEAR DETENTION FACILITY WHEN THEY DO DEVELOPMENT.

PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THE DEVELOPER THAT'S COME TO OUR OFFICE HAVE WITHIN -- HAVE BEEN FINE WITH THAT.

THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THAT AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE REQUEST IS A HUNDRED-YEAR DETENTION POND WHEN THEY DO A DEVELOPMENT. I CAN'T SAY WHAT WAS DONE BEFORE THEN. I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF THAT PART NOT BEING DONE. AND THE REASON IS THE STRUCTURE ON THE DOWNSTREAM SIDE HAVE MET CAPACITY.

IF YOU WATER THROUGH THE DRAINAGE DITCHES AND THE CULVERTS, IT IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

HYDROLOGY IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

ONCE WE GET THIS DRAINAGE STUDY IT WILL HELP US TO DETERMINE WHAT WE NEED TO DO. THANK Y'ALL.

>> EXCUSE ME, JUAN. >> YES, SIR.

>> AS SOON AS WE FIND OUT WHEN THE MEETING IS GONNA TAKE EFFECT, WHEN EVERYBODY COMES TOGETHER, I AM INVITING REPRESENTATIVE ABEL AND POSSIBLY THE SENATOR TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME HELP OUT THERE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON.

AS SOON AS WE FIND OUT WE CAN COMMUNICATE AND WE HAVE BEEN EMAILING. JUST KEEP ME ABREAST OF WHAT YOU FIND OUT AND I'LL DO THE SAME.

>> THANKS, COMMISSIONER. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO OUT THERE.

THE PEOPLE ARE HERE AND YOU CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH AT ONE TIME. THEY ARE OUT THERE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE.

YOU HAVE A WORK ORDER AND I KNOW I MET YOU OUT THERE AND I KNOW IF I HAVE A WORK ORDER I WILL GO AND LOOK AT IT IN A COUPLE OF DAYS. IT TAKES A LOT OF COORDINATION AND A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED.

I COMMEND PUBLIC WORKS FOR TRYING TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON. WE CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.

WE GET THE SAME COMPLAINTS IN MY AREA AND WE TRY TO MEET

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WITH THEM AND MEET WITH TXDOT.

I SUPPORT A LOT OF THIS DOCUMENTATION.

YOU CAN PUT IT IN WRITING, IT IS A LOT BETTER.

>> WE WILL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THANK

YOU. >> JUDGE BEFORE I LEAVE I WANT TO SAY IN REGARDS TO GOING OUT IN THE FIELD AND I KNOW Y'ALL GO OUT THERE, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, BUT SOMETIMES JERRY AND I ARE OUT THERE AT 4:00, 5:00 IN THE MORNING, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE THE HEAVY RAINS.

ONE THING I LEARNED WHEN I WAS A YOUNG ENGINEER, NOT TOO LONG

AGO, -- >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WE DON'T LIE IN THIS COURTROOM. I AM A CONSTITUTIONAL JUDGE.

I'M JOKING. GO AHEAD.

>> ONE THING I DID LEARN AS A YOUNG ENGINEER IS THE ONLY WAY YOU WILL LEARN ABOUT DRAINAGE IS GOING OUT THERE AND IDENTIFYING -- ESPECIALLY IN A HEAVY RAIN EVENT AND DRIVING OUT TO IDENTIFY WHAT IS CAUSING DRAINAGE ISSUES.

YOU CAN DO YOUR CALCULATIONS AND YOUR MODELS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT THE ONLY WAY YOU WILL REALLY LEARN IS BY YOU YOURSELF GOING OUT THERE AND TAKING PICTURES AND IDENTIFYING WHAT IS GOING ON AND HOW YOU CAN ELIMINATE THE DRAINAGE AND NOT TRYING TO PAT ANYBODY IN THE BACK, BUT YOU GO OUT THERE AT 4:00, 5:00 IN THE MORNING AND WE DISCUSS AND WE ARE DRIVING AROUND TO IDENTIFY WHAT IS GOING ON.

I JUST WANTED Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: LOOK, WE ARE CERTAINLY AWARE OF EVERYBODY'S GOOD EFFORTS. WE CAN ALWAYS DO MORE.

THAT'S WHY THESE PEOPLE COME TO COURT.

THEY DIDN'T COME TO COURT TO SAY YOU ARE NOT DOING WHAT YOU HAVE SHOWN THEM THAT YOU HAVE DONE.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YOU CAN DO BOTH. YOU CAN PRAISE PEOPLE FOR THE WORK THEY ARE DOING, AND YOU CAN REQUIRE MORE.

WE HAVE TO DO MORE. WE CANNOT BE SATISFIED IF THIS -- WITH THIS IS ALL WE CAN DO.

THERE IS MORE WE CAN DO AND WE HAVE TO REALLY WORK HARDER OF THE IT IS IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THESE ARE THE ISSUES OF OUR DAY. AND THERE IS ONE THING I WOULD AGREE WITH IN PART AND DISAGREE WITH IN PART.

YOU ARE RIGHT. THE FIELD KNOWLEDGE FOR ANY ENGINEER FOR ME AS WELL WHEN I WAS IN THE FIELD IS INVALUABLE. HOWEVER, WHAT YOU CANNOT PREDICT IS WHAT HAPPENED IN MAY -- IN MAY AND JULY.

ONLY MODELING CAN TELL YOU HOW MAY AND JULY COULD BE WORSE.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU KNOW WITH YOUR OWN EYES WHAT HAPPENED WITH 25 INCHES THAT'S ONE THING.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT IS 40 INCHES? YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THOSE MODELS.

I KNOW YOU BELIEVE THIS SO I KNOW I'M PREACH TOGETHER CHOIR. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT LEAVING THE WRONG IMPRESSION. WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS IS CHANGING.

IT IS WHY WE STARTED TWO YEARS AGO, AND WE FINALLY GOT WHAT WE ASKED FOR. AND NOW WE NEED THE FUNDING.

THIS IS ALL TIED TOGETHER. YOU CAN SEE HOW ALL OF THE DOTS CONNECT. WE TALK ABOUT OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA AND PUSHING OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.

THAT IS WHY. THAT IS WHY.

NO LEGISLATURE ON ITS OWN WILL BE ABLE TO TACKLE EVERY SINGLE ISSUE EVERY SINGLE TIME WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY HERE. WE PUT FORTH -- FOR EXAMPLE, WE NEED TO ADVOCATE FOR THOSE FIFTH FUNDS, THE FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE FUNDED AGAIN NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION. THAT IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL.

BY SHOWCASING IT, IT BEGINS NOW.

ON THE OFF SESSION THAT'S WHAT ALL OF THE WORK HAPPENS.

AGAIN, IT IS ALL PART OF THE BIG STRATEGY.

THE MODELING AND THE LEGISLATIVE ACTION.

THEY ARE GIVING US. WE'LL KEEP YOU ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT TIME AND MAYBE WE CAN GET AN UPDATE.

IF YOU HAVEN'T MET HIM YET AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE, HE CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU JUST RIGHT OUTSIDE.

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IN THAT CASE -- YOU CAN'T GO OUTSIDE -- IS THERE JUST ONE ITEM. THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO BRING YOU BACK. WE ARE GOINGS -- WE ARE GOING BACK TO REGULAR AGENDA. LET'S TACKLE THE NOTES FROM

[I. Accept the following Minutes:]

APRIL 4TH, APRIL 6TH AND APRIL 11TH.

IS THERE A MOTION? >> MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

>> I. WE WILL DO THE APPOINTMENTS

UNDER ITEM J. >> THANK YOU.

[1. Nueces Center for Mental Health and Intellectual Disabilities]

>> ITEM J AND THAT IS THE NUECES CENTER FOR MENTAL

HEALTH AND DISABILITIES. >> JUDGE, YOU HAVE DR., SBERG WHO -- OSBERG WHO RESIGNED AND YOU HAVE GEORGE BUDDY EWING

AND GOES BY BUDDY EWING. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I BELIEVE HIS APPLICATION IS THERE AND HE HAS FILLED OUT THE COMMISSION INFORMATION AND HE HAS A MINOR IN PSYCHOLOGY AND A BS IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE. HIS FLAME IS -- HIS NAME IS GEORGE YING AND GOES BY BUDDY.

I WOULD TAKE A MOTION AT THIS TIME TO APPROVE HIM.

>> QUICK QUESTION. I CAN SEE WE ARE WE HAVE

ANOTHER RESIGNATION? >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WE HAVE A SECOND APPOINTMENT, BUT NOT TODAY.

I BELIEVE THERE WILL BE AN OPENING IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE

REFERRING TO? >> THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES -- THAT'S A DIFFERENT ONE, I GUESS.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I DID HEAR THAT WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER POSITION OPENING, I AM JUST NOT SURE --

>> MAYBE IT IS NOT POSTED? >> IT IS ON CONSENT AGENDA,

ITEM G. >> THERE IT IS.

>> OH, TO APPROVE THE PLOP LOCATION.

THIS IS A -- APPROVE THE RESIGNATION? OKAY. I NOMINATE BUDDY EWING.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IS THERE A SECOND? IF THERE IS DISCUSSION WE CAN HAVE IT AT THIS TIME.

HEARING NONE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

>> I. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: GIVE ME A SECOND TO SEE IF MELISSA CONJOIN HERE.

WE'LL DO THE CONSENT AND COME BACK TO MELISSA.

AS YOU CAN IMAGINE WE ARE NOW IN THE THROWS OF MULTIPLE CRISISES AND PREPAREDNESS, PARTICULARLY SINCE WE HAVE A NAMED STORM. LETS -- LET'S DO THE CONSENT

[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]

AGENDA AND GIVE HER A LITTLE MORE TIME TO COME IN.

THAT'S ITEMS A THROUGH J ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND I WILL ASK IF THERE ARE ANY THAT NEED SPECIAL DISCUSSION FOR REMOVAL

OR JUST COMMENTS? >> D AND H.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: D AND H.

OKAY. SO LET'S HAVE ANYBODY ELSE?

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? >> SO MOVED, JUDGE.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THANK YOU.

A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MODEST FROM THE CLERK.

ALL THOSE IN FIFER SAY I. LETS DO D.

[D. Approve Amendment to Tax Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ) No. 2 Interlocal Agreement with City of Corpus Christi correcting typographical error.]

>> I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE CORRECTION WAS?

WAS IT A WORD OR SOMETHING? >> IT WAS ACTUALLY THE YEAR.

CITED WAS -- SOMEBODY CAUGHT IT, 2002.

I THINK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY DID THE ADJUSTMENT.

THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. IT WAS THE WRONG YEAR.

IT WAS 2002 INSTEAD OF 2020, I BELIEVE.

THE YEAR WAS INCORRECT. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: DO YOU WANT TO MOTION FOR THAT? I'LL HAVE A SECOND PLEASE.

>> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY

BY SAYING I. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I.

[H. Approve Third Amendment to Contract with BCFS Health and Human Services for Incident Management Team Supplementation services related to support of COVID-19 vaccination operations.]

THE THIRD AMENDMENT ON LETTER H.

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? >> I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING FOR

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RFP ON -- IS THAT THE SAME THING THAT WE DID LAST TIME.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IT IS EXCEPT THE RFP IS FOR ALL DISASTERS AND ALL INCIDENT MANAGEMENT SERVICES.

AND WE ALREADY HAVE BCFS WORKING ON INCIDENT MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR VACCINATIONS. THIS IS VACCINATIONS ONLY WHILE OUR REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL WILL BE FOR ALL DISASTERS.

THAT'S THE DISTINCTION. >> IS THERE A THREE-MONTH

PERIOD? >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WHAT IS THIS CONTRACT? IT IS TO PLACE IN EFFECT -- IT HAS BEEN IN EFFECT SINCE -- LET'S SEE.

MAY 4TH, 2021. WE HAVE THEY WILL ON CONTRACT TO USE THEM AND SO WHEN THERE ARE FUTURE DISASTERS --

>> SO THIS IS AN -- >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IT IS AN UPDATE. IT IS A NOT TO EXCEED.

>> I CAN'T THINK OF THE WORD. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: PRE

POSITIONED? >> THAT'S RIGHT.

PRE POSITIONED CONTRACT. WE DON'T USE THEM IF WE DON'T NEED THEM, BUT WE USE THEM IF WE NEED THEM.

THAT'S RIGHT AND WE JUST GOT WORD THAT BOOSTERS ARE GOING TO BE -- WE ARE STARTING BOOSTERS ON WEDNESDAY.

>> AND IS THAT FOR LOW IMMUNE SYSTEMS TO BEGIN WITH?

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IT IS.

IT IS FOR IMMUNOCOMPROMISED INDIVIDUALS.

IT IS BEST TO SPEAK TO YOUR DOCTOR.

WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? WHAT IF HAVE YOU MULTIPLE CO-MORBID TEES? DUOS -- DOES THAT MAKE YOUR BODY LESS LIKELY TO PRODUCE ANTIBODIES TO THE VIRUS? THESE ARE MEDICAL QUESTIONS BEST DEFERRED TO YOUR DOCTOR.

>> BUT THAT'S WHERE IT IS STARTING? AND THE REALITY IS IT IS ALL COMING.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IT IS ALL COMING AND AS A RESULT WE WILL DO -- IT HAPPENED ALREADY TO US -- LET ME GET TO THE NEXT ONE. NO WORRIES.

>> NOT TO EXCEED -- >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: $1 MIL.

SO IF YOU WILL REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE FEMA ADVANCED FUNDING FOR VACCINATIONS OF $5 MILLION WE GET 50% AND 50%.

IT IS 2.4 AND 2.4. >> AND THAT IS NOT QUESTIONING THE JUDGE. I LIKE THE AUDITOR TO VERIFY THAT IS A CORRECT STATEMENT, RIGHT? IT IS PRE-PAID MONEY? I LIKE TO HAVE DOUBLE AND TRIPLE ON THE RECORD. IF THE AUDITOR SAYS IT WRONG IT IS ON THEM TO WATCH THIS STUFF.

I KNOW THEY ARE. I'M GOOD.

I AM NOT TRYING TO CUTOFF DISCUSSION, JUST MOTION TO

PASS. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

>> I. OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

OKAY. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ME TO HAVE -- TINER, WOULD YOU BE SO KIND AS TO BUZZ MELISSA? WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE AND WE WILL GO TO ITEM 1 AND THEN GO BACK TO MELISSA. THAT'S TO DISCUSS NUECES COUNTY ANIMAL CARE SERVICES INCLUDING AUTONOMY AND BEST PRACTICES. HERE WITH US TODAY --

>> JUDGE WE ASK THAT BE BROUGHT INTO EXECUTIVE --

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: ALL RIGHT.

COULD I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT?

>> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO? MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION?

WE CAN JUST DO IT. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: DID

WE NOTICE IT? >> IT IS COMMON PRACTICE NOW.

THAT'S TRUE. YOU DON'T WANT TO TABLE IT --

>> SHE WANTS TO DO IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IT HAS SOME LEGAL I'M -- IMPLICATIONS. LET ME TELL THE AUDIENCE.

YOU MA I HAVE TO SIT TIGHT. WE WILL DISCUSS THAT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THEN COME BACK AND BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IT AGAIN IN OPEN SESSION.

THERE ARE LEGAL ISSUES THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WANTS TO GO OVER WITH US AND THAT WAY WE CAN VISIT WITH YOU -- JUAN IS HERE WITH US FROM ANIMAL CARE.

WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON MELISSA, I GUESS WHAT I'M

[1. Discuss disaster preparedness and response, including matters related to COVID-19, Emergency Orders, severe weather, flooding, drainage, economic recovery, state and federal assistance, and infrastructure status, and other related matters.]

GONNA DO IS TRY TO GIVE THE REPORT AS BEST I CAN AND THAT IS, SO EVERYONE IS FOLLOWING, IS GOING TO BE ITEM H1 AND THAT'S THE GENERAL INFORMATION REPORTS REGARDING ALL OUR DISASTERS. WE DID A LOT OF FLOODING AND

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DRAINAGE SO UNLESS THERE ARE FURTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE MAY FLOODS AND THE JULY FLOODS, WOULD IT BE ALL RIGHT TO ALLOW THE CONVERSATION WE HAD TO SUFFICE.

IF YOU NEED ANYMORE -- >> WHICH ONE?

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: H1. GENERAL INFORMATION REPORTS.

>> I'M SORRY. OKAY.

>> I THINK EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I FEEL LIKE IT WAS COVERED.

OKAY. I HAVE NOTHING NEW TO REPORT ON WINTER STORM URIE AT THIS TIME.

THE STATE OF TEXAS IS HELPING WITH THAT DISASTER AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. AND WITH REGARDS TO COVID-19 I THINK THERE IS MULTIPLE PIECES OF INFORMATION TO RELAY TO YOU ALL. SOME OF WHICH WILL BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY, BUT THE ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO BRING FORTH IS THAT ON FRIDAY AT 7 A.M. WE OPENED UP AS A STATE ONE OF THE FIVE STATE-RUN RAPID INFUSION CENTERS FOR THE ANTIBODY TREATMENT CALLED REGENERON. I WILL LOOK AT MY NOTES TO GET THE PHONE NUMBER, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE IT.

THERE IS A NUMBER TO CALL, BUT OF COURSE JUST LIKE THE OTHER COMMENT THAT I MADE WITH BOOSTERS, IT DOES REQUIRE A DOCTOR'S REFERRAL AND YOU NEED TO DISCUSS WITH YOUR DOCTOR IF YOU ARE ELIGIBLE. IF YOU ARE OVER 65 AND HAVE CERTAIN AILMENTS YOU WOULD QUALIFY.

TURNS OUT IF YOU HAVE OTHER AILMENTS AND OVER 55 YOU WOULD QUALIFY. TO BEST UNDERSTAND YOU JUST NEED TO CONSULT WITH YOUR DOCTOR.

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A DOCTOR WHICH SO MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS DO NOT HAVE A PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN, WE OFFER THE FREE COVID CLINIC. BY THE WAY, THESE TREATMENTS ARE FREE, BUT THERE IS APPOINTMENT-BASED AND THEY DO IT ALL DAY LONG AND SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

I FEEL VERY, VERY CONFIDENT THERE -- THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO WALK INS.

THAT'S FOR YOUR SAFETY AND COMFORT.

THERE ARE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN HANDLE. AND THEN WE HAVE OTHER FACILITIES IN TOWN THAT CAN ALSO HELP.

I THINK IF MELISSA WERE ON, SHE WOULD WANT ME TO TELL THAT YOU IT IS RUNNING BY VCSF AND THAT'S A DIFFERENT GROUP THAT IS HERE. IT IS NOT THE GROUP WE HAVE HERE HELPING WITH VACCINES. IT IS PARENT OF THE SAME PARENT COMPANY AND THEY ARE HIRED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS TO BRING THIS TO THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY.

WE ARE IN A STATE OF CRISIS WITH THE HOSPITALS.

THE ENTIRE TRAUMA SERVICE AREA ON FRIDAY HAD ZERO HOSPITAL BEDS FOR ICU ACROSS THE ENTIRE TRAUMA SERVICE AREA.

WE ARE REGION 11 AND LETTER U AND THAT MEANS FROM THE VALLEY TO LAREDO AND ALL THE WAY ARANZIS THERE WAS 0ICU -- ZERO ICU BEDS AVAILABLE SO THAT MEANS OTHER THINGS ARE COMPROMISED AS WE DEAL WITH 133 PEOPLE IN THE HOSPITAL AND 85 IN ICU. UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD A RECORD NUMBER OF 10 DEATHS FOR 21. WE HAD MORE DEATHS IN 2020 ON A SINGLE DAY. IN 21 I BELIEVE THAT 10 IS ONE OF THE HIGH. THAT WAS A TRAGIC DAY.

AS A RESULT OF THAT, ALL OF THESE INFUSION CENTERS HAVE A LOT OF PROMINENCE RIGHT NOW IN THE NEWS AND THEY CAN BE HELPFUL. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT. AND YOU MAY HAVE HEARD WE ARE DOING SHOTS. AND THOUGHTS ARE -- AND SHOTS ARE DONE SUB CUTANEOUSLY AND THEY CAN DO THE SAME DRUG TREATMENT, REGION -- REGENERON, BUT AT THE FAIRGROUNDS IT IS INTRA VENOUS INFUSION.

DRISCOLL HOSPITAL IS DOING THE INFUSIONS AND THEY HAVE ASKED US TO HELP WITH THE PEAKED -- PEDIATRIC INFUSIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN A HUGE INCREASE IN PEDIATRIC POPULATION IN THE VALLEY AND AS YOU KNOW DRISCOLL IS THE REGIONAL ALL THE WAY TO THE VALLEY TRAUMA CENTER AND CARRYING THE SUB SPECIALISTS HERE IN TOWN. LOOK FOR US TO ASSIST DRISCOLL CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL WITH THAT NEED OF THE PEDIATRIC INFUSION VERY SOON. WITH REGARDS TO THE BOOSTERS, WE WILL START THAT PROCESS ON WEDNESDAY.

LOOK FOR NUECES COUNTY TO TRY AND HELP ASSIST WITH TESTING

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BECAUSE WE WANT THE CITY COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THEIR PERSONNEL TO PIVOT TO VACCINES BECAUSE THEY WILL GET CALLS WHEN WE START THE BOOSTERS.

THERE WAS A HUGE UP TICK. WE WERE DOING A THOUSAND A WEEK AND THEN 2500 A WEEK. ON FRIDAY WE DID 1,000 AND ON SATURDAY WE DID A THOUSAND. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T CHECK TO SEE WHAT WE DID ON SUNDAY. THAT'S A HUGE INDICATOR THAT

-- >> PEOPLE ARE GETTING VACCINATED. PEOPLE ARE CHANGING THEIR MIND ABOUT VACCINATION DUE TO WHAT IS HAPPENING IN YOUR OWN COMMUNITY. UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD THE DISTINCTION ON FRIDAY OF BEING THE WORST IN THE STATE.

>> JUDGE I WANT TO MENTION THAT WE HAVE AN EVENT TODAY THAT I AM SPONSORING WITH OTHERS.

WE WILL BE HAVING NOT ONLY FREE PHYSICALS THERE, BUT FREE COVID VACCINES THERE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL FROM 4 TO 6 P.M.

AS WELL. I WANTED TO MENTION THAT BASH

THAT. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WE EXPECT THE STATE OF TEXAS TO HELP WITH THE STRIKE TEAMS PRESIDENT -- STRIKE TEAMS. WE MET WITH THE MEDICAL CORP ON FRIDAY AND IT IS NEVER A GOOD FEELING TO INVITE SOMEBODY TO HELP SOMEBODY WHO HANDLES MEDICAL CRISISES FROM ALL OVER THE GLOBE THAT YOU FEED THEIR HELP IN YOUR AREA.

THEIR HELP IS WELCOME AND THEY WILL BE BRINGING STAFF WE HOPE AND THEY WILL HAVE A STRIKE TEAM TO HELP THEM AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THEY WILL MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE TO ANSWER THE PHONES AND DEAL WITH CALLING THE POSITIVES AND DEAL WITH THE CONTACT TRACING AND ALL THE ELEMENTS PUBLIC HEALTH PERFORMS DURING THE SURGE. IT HAS BEEN -- THERE AREN'T ENOUGH PERSONNEL. THE INTERNATIONAL MEDICAL CORP HELPED US PROVIDE TENTS AND THEY BROUGHT US MILITARY GRADE TENTS WE HAVE BEEN UTILIZING. THE AIR CONDITIONING HAS BEEN A DIFFICULTY. IT IS SO HOT OUTSIDE.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON SOLVING THE PROBLEMS SO WE CAN ESTABLISH THESE SURGE. IN ADDITION THE AMBUS WAS MOVED TO CCMC ON FRIDAY BY THE CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THAT WAS -- THAT WAS TO ASSIST WITH OVER FLOW.

THEY WERE BEING INUNDATED AND IT WAS NOT A WISE USE OF PERSONNEL IN THE FIELD. THEY BROUGHT THE AMBUS IN.

THEY ALSO ACQUIREY TENTS IN THE EVENT WE WOULD NEED THEM.

ALL OF THIS IS IN AN EFFORT TO RAMP UP AND TO CREATE THE UTMOST PREPAREDNESS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

LET ME STOP THERE. I'M GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE GUESTS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT I THINK WANT TO VISIT WITH US ABOUT WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY NEXT.

FIRST, IT IS ALWAYS HELPFUL TO SEPARATE SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS WITH REGARDS TO ANY OF THE MATTERS WE TALKED ABOUT, VACCINES AND VACCINE CLINICS. WE WILL INVITE YOU TO THE PODIUM BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE ON HERE TO RECORD.

I JUST FORGOT ONE THING. OVER THE WEEKEND YOU ALL HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE STAFFING THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS WAS GOING TO SEND TO US. UNFORTUNATELY, AND WE ARE APPRECIATIVE OF ONE EXTRA HAND, BUT WE WILL RECEIVE OUT OF THE 2500 ONLY 200 FOR THE ENTIRE SERVICE AREA.

FROM THE VALLEY TO LAREDO WE WILL RECEIVE 200 MEMBERS OF THE PERSONNEL. WE ASKED TO PLEASE ALLOW THE LOCALS FOR THE ABILITY TO HELP MAKE THE DECISIONS AMONG OURSELVES. I KNOW THE HOSPITALS ARE COOPERATING. WE DO EXPECT THAT WE WILL RECEIVE ANYWHERE BETWEEN MAYBE 50 AND 80.

THAT'S A GOOD GUESS, BUT SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT.

AGAIN, THE VALLEY HAS A TREMENDOUS NEED AS DOES LAREDO. WE HAVE TO SHARE THAT.

TO GET A PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE NEEDED 550 PERSONNEL. WE ARE GETTING, LIKE I SAID, 10% -- YOU KNOW, IT IS A LOT LESS THAN THAT.

OUR ENTIRE REGION NEEDED 1600 AND WE ARE GOING TO GET THE 200. IT GIVES UH PERSPECTIVE ON HOW MUCH MORE NEED THERE IS FOR STAFFING.

IF WE COULD GET THE STAFFING UP, WE COULD OPEN UP 120 MORE BEDS. THAT'S THE GOAL.

THE GOAL IS TO DO WAFER YOU CAN TO UH -- IS TO DO WHATEVER YOU CAN TO ASSIST THOSE BEDS. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE

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ASSISTANCE THAT IS COMING. AND WERE THAT -- AND WITH THAT LET ME INTRODUCE THE NEXT SUBJECT MATTER AND INVITE THE PEOPLE WHO MADE TIME TO COME AND PROVIDE COMMENT OR PERHAPS A QUESTION AND MELISSA HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO JOIN, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY TO YOU THAT WE DID HAVE TO DO DOUBLE DUTY TODAY PREPARING FOR THIS STORM. THE STORM THAT COULD IMPACT OUR SOUTH TEXAS AREA. YESTERDAY THE LOCAL HEALTH AUTHORITY ISSUED A MASK MANDATE FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS, AND A COPY OF WHICH COULD BE PROVIDED AND SEEN ONLINE.

THIS MASK MANDATE WAS ISSUED BY DR. RAM.

THAT'S HIS NICKNAME. BUT IT IS IN AN EFFORT TO PROTECT CHILDREN IN SCHOOLS, HE FELT.

THIS MANDATE WAS SUBJECT TO A SUPREME COURT OF ORDER STAY.

ACTUALLY, TECHNICALLY -- TECHNICALLY IT WASN'T BECAUSE WE WERE NOT LIT GAUNTS. I BELIEVE WE WERE TRUE TO OUR WORD THAT SAID WE WOULD RESPECT THE SUPREME COURT'S ORDERS. SO THIS MASK MANDATE ISSUED BY THE LOCAL HEALTH AUTHORITY WHICH IS CALLED A LOCAL PUBLIC HEALTH ORDER IS NOT IN PLAY AS OF THIS MOMENT.

AND THAT IS BECAUSE A STAY -- A STAY, LEGAL JARGON, FOR IT IS ON ICE. THEY DID NOT ADJUDICATE THE MERITS, BUT THEY SAID IT IS ON HOLD.

WHEN IT IS ON HOLD, IT MEANS THAT YOU REVERT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL LAW OF THE LAND AND THAT'S THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER, GA38. PRIOR TO THE SUPREME COURT RULING, THE LAW OF THE LAND, JUDICIAL AUTHORITY COULD BE FOUND IN THE TWO APPELLATE COURT DECISIONS.

ONCE THE SUPREME COURT RULED YESTERDAY EVENING, THE NEW STATUS QUO IS THE OLD STATUS QUO.

THERE WAS AN UNFORTUNATE EVENT OF TIMING.

THE NEWS FIRST REPORTED YES AND THEN IT REPORTED NO.

BUT THE STATUS I WOULD LIKE TO BRING FORTH TO ALL OF YOU TODAY IS THAT THERE IS NO MASK MANDATE IN PLAY IN NUECES COUNTY FOR YOUR LOCAL HEALTH AUTHORITY.

AS I SAID, RIGHT NOW I BELIEVE THEY ARE ARGUING THE MATTER IN ANOTHER COURTROOM IF BEXAR COUNTY.

WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE HOW ALL OF THOSE PLAY OUT.

IN DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS IT HAS BEEN HANDLED DIFFERENTLY.

SOME THE LOCAL HEALTH AUTHORITY ISSUED THE ORDERS.

IN DALLAS IT WAS THE COUNTY JUDGE.

HERE IT WAS THE LOCAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, AND I SUPPORT THE LOCAL HEALTH AUTHORITY BECAUSE HE IS AN INFECTIOUS DISEASE SPECIALIST, AND ALSO BECAUSE DR. PETERSON WHO IS THE CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER AT DRISCOLL CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL BELIEVED IT TO BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST.

WITH THAT WE WILL ASK FOR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS IF MELISSA DOES JOIN AND SHE WANTS TO MAKE ANY EXTRA COMMENTS ABOUT THE CLINICS AND TESTING, WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE HER. THAT WRAPS IT UP FOR US FOR COVID-19. AT THIS TIME, MA'AM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THE PODIUM, AND DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT REGARDING -- OKAY. WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YOU

BET. >> HI.

MY NAME IS CLAUDIA RABUCK AND I RESIDE AT 518 CUNNINGHAM.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THANK YOU.

>> I WAS WONDERING FOR SOME CLARIFICATION UPON THE STATEMENT ON THE ICU BEDS AVAILABLE AND THE SPACE, AND PARTICULARLY HOW IT RELATES TO DRISCOLL CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL.

I HEARD THAT STATEMENT AT THE END THAT I BELIEVE THE HOSPITAL -- THE DIRECTOR OF THE HOSPITAL IS CONCERNED.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YES. >> DOES THE CHILDREN -- IS THE CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL ALSO AT MAX CAPACITY? ARE THEIR ICU BEDS ALSO OCCUPIED AT THIS TIME?

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH HILLARY WATT ON THAT. I WILL TELL YOU IN THE TRAUMA SERVICE AREA, SHE MAINTAINS THAT THERE'S NOT THAT MANY, YOU KNOW, ICU BEDS IN PEDIATRICS LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE FOR EXAMPLE AT MULTIPLE ADULT HOSPITALS CONTRIBUTING TO ICU BEDS. FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE FOUR MAJOR HOSPITALS. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU THE LETTER SHE WENT TO ME.

WE CAN GET YOU THAT ANSWER IMMEDIATELY.

IT IS AS YOU CHANGING. YOU CAN HAVE ONE PERSON GO TO

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A MED SEARCH BED AND THEN YOU GET TWO IN ICU.

WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS DRISCOLL CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL IS THE PREMIERE SORT OF REGIONAL HOSPITAL FOR THE

ENTIRE -- >> FOR ALL OF SOUTH TEXAS.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YEAH. LITERALLY IT IS EVERYTHING.

WHAT IS SO SUPER ALARMING IS WHEN THEY GET WORRIED.

WHEN THEY GET WORRIED ABOUT THE STANDARD OF CARE FOR ALL THE CHILDREN, COVID AND NON-COVID.

IT IS NOT JUST A MATTER OF WE DON'T HAVE ICU BEDS FOR COVID, BUT CAR ACCIDENTS AND FOR TERRIBLE THINGS THAT HAPPEN HERE. I THINK THAT WAS THEIR MAIN CONCERN. I DO KNOW AND I HAVE ASKED FOR THEM TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS TOMORROW.

WE INVITE YOU BACK. I WILL TRY TO HAVE IT HERE.

I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK BECAUSE I CAME STRAIGHT IN THIS MORNING, BUT I ASKED IF WE CAN DO AN UPDATE.

PEDIATRIC IS SO UNIQUE AND SO DIFFERENT THAN THE ADULTS.

FOR THE ADULTS I GET THE CENSUS EVERY DAY AT NOON.

REMEMBER HOW THIS VIRUS PROGRESSED.

IT WAS AN ADULT-DRIVEN ISSUE. LAST SUMMER THIS REALLY WASN'T -- EVEN THOUGH WE HAD SICK CHILDREN, IT REALLY WASN'T -- WE DIDN'T SEE THE DOUBLING OF THE CENSUS AT DRISCOLL LIKE WE

DO TODAY. >> YEAH.

AND I WEAR MANY HATS. I'M HERE FOR MANY DIFFERENT REASONS. ONE OF THE REASONS I AM HERE IS BECAUSE I SIT ON THE BOARD FOR THE CITIZENS ADVISORY

HEALTH BOARD. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: OH

GREAT. >> SO SOME OF THE -- AS THINGS PROGRESS HERE IN OUR COUNTY AND THE CITY, IN RELATION TO COVID, MANY QUESTIONS COME UP IN MY MIND AS TO MORE CLARITY THAT WE CAN BE RECEIVING AS TO THE AVAILABILITY OF BEDS, AS TO WHETHER THEY ARE SHOVE -- SHUFFLING THE YOUTH AND CHILDREN OVER TO DRISCOLL TO MAKE ROOM AT THEIR HOSPITALS IF THEY CAN MAKE AVAILABLE AND ALL OF THOSE SORT OF THINGS.

ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES FOR ME HAS BEEN MY BOARD HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO MEET SINCE THE BEGINNING OF COVID.

WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY VIRTUAL MEETINGS OR ANY PHYSICAL MEETINGS DESPITE MANY EMAILS AND BRINGING THIS UP AT CITY COUNCIL, AND WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

I AM GOING TO HAVE TO COME HERE AND ASK MY QUESTIONS

HERE. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I WOULD LOVE TO MEET WITH YOU. AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.

IT IS NOT LIKE I DON'T LOVE TALKING ABOUT THIS VIRUS, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT DOMINATES MY LIFE.

I FEEL LIKE I HAVE A LOT TO SHARE AND I HAVE RESOURCES.

IF YOU HAVE THAT QUESTION WE COULD PICK UP THE PHONE TOGETHER AND CALL. HOW ABOUT THIS? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE MEETING IN IN PERSON, BUT WHAT I DO IS WE COULD MEET HERE IN THIS ROOM WHERE NOBODY ELSE -- IT WOULD JUST BE THE BOARD AND THEY CAN SOCIAL DISTANCE AND WE COULD MEET AND TRY AND GET THE CLAIRE -- CLARITY AND I CAN ASK MEMBERS OF THE HOSPITAL TO BE HERE WITH US. THERE IS ONE PARTICULAR PERSON THAT IT REALLY IS VERY HELPFUL TO ME AND SHE IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE RACK. THAT PERSON TAKES -- THEY HAVE THE BEST MOMENT TO MOMENT INFO ON HOSPITAL CAPACITY.

I FOE I CAN ANSWER THIS CORRECTLY, BUT WE FLEX LIKE CRAZY. I LEARNED THAT WORD LAST YEAR. WHAT THAT MEANS IS EVERY BED CAN BE A COVID BED IF YOU NEED IT TO BE PRESIDENT EVERY HALLWAY CAN BE A COVID HALLWAY.

THE GIFT SHOP CAN TURN INTO A MED SURGE ROOM IF YOU MAKE MEDICAL GASES APPEAR. IT IS UNBELIEVABLE HOW THEY CAN PIVOT. WHILE MY FIRST INCLINATIONS A YEAR AGO WERE SEEING WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN NEW YORK AND BOSTON AND CHICAGO, FIELD HOSPITALS DON'T WORK HERE FOR 10 REASONS. WHAT WE LEARNED IS THE BEST WAY YOU CAN HELP YOUR COMMUNITY IS FLEX INSIDE YOUR HOSPITAL OR NEXT TO YOUR HOSPITAL SO YOU CAN HAVE X-RAY AND MY GOODNESS LAB AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE CONTAINED RIGHT THERE. IF YOU ARE AT A CONVENTION CENTER OR A GYM, IT DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE

THE SUPPORT. >> AND THE PERSONNEL.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: AND THE PERSONNEL.

THE CAPACITY IS COULD I -- IS KEY AND IT CHANGES LIKE THIS, RIGHT? THREE WEEKS AGO WE SOUNDED THE ALARM, FOR INSTANCE. PEOPLE DIDN'T REALLY REACT IF A WAY I THOUGHT GOT US READY. IT ONLY TOOK ONE WEEK LATER

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FOR EVERYBODY TO GET, OH MY GOODNESS, THIS IS HAPPENING.

EYE ONLY. >> IT -- EYE ONLY -- ANALGIZE IT TO A WAVE. IT IS BUILDING AND IT GETS MOMENTUM AND THERE IS NO TURNING BACK.

RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE 119 BEDS BETWEEN CRISTA SPUN, SARATOGA SOUTH AND SORE LINE WE -- SHORELINE WE CAN OPEN IF WE GET PERSONNEL FROM THE STATE. ONE THING I FORGOT TO TELL YOU IS WE DID A STAR REQUEST AND I HAVEN'T CHECKED ON IT YET, BUT TYPICALLY IT WOULD BOUNCE UP HERE IF IT WAS ACCEPTED.

WE ASKED FOR A FEDERAL DEMAT TEAM, A FEDERAL MEDICAL ASSISTANCE TEAM. WE HAD TO DO THIS LAST YEAR AND THEY WERE SUPER AMAZING TO WORK WITH.

THAT IS ALWAYS A TELLTALE SIGN.

I HAVE AN OFFICE NEXT DOOR. IF SHE IS LIGSENNING HER NAME IS -- IF SHE IS LISTENING, WILL SHE STOP BY TO MEET WHEREVER THEY ARE COMFORTABLE.

IF THEY ARE NOT COMFORTABLE, MS. CONNIE HAS THE TECHNOLOGY TO PUT EVERYBODY VIRTUAL. IF THEY CAN'T COME.

WE'LL WORK WITH YOU, WITH YOUR TIME FRAME AND WE WILL GET YOU THESE ANSWERS. THAT'S THE ONE THING -- WE RESPECT PEOPLE'S OPINIONS. THEY COULD BE DIFFERENT THAN OURS IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, BUT WE DO RESPECT THEM.

I HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THE CALLS, BUT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET PEOPLE THE ANSWERS THEY NEED. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEM

TO YOU AS WELL. >> AND I AM HERE TO TRY TO BRIDGE THAT GAP. I COME IN PEACE TO BE A PEACE KEEPER. I LOVE THE COMMENT YOU SAID YOU TRIED TO SOUND AN ALARM A FEW WEEKS AGO.

BUT FOR MAYBE MANY OF THE FAMILIES IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE THAT'S WHO I AM GETTING TO CONTACT OR CONTACTS ME THE MOST AS A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THEM IN THESE PUBLIC HEALTH MATTERS IS THAT IT IS HARD FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHY A MASK MANDATE FOR THE SCHOOLS WHEN WE'RE NOT SEEING THE YOUTH NUMBERS AND YOU MIGHT BE SEEING THEM.

THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY BEING EXEUN INDICATED TO -- BEING

COMMUNICATED TO THE FAMILIES. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I AGREE WITH YOU. ONE GOOD THING THAT HAPPENED THIS MORNING IS I WAS GIVEN ALT BUZZ -- A LITTLE BUZZ THAT WE USED TO HAVE A COMMUNITY RISK DASHBOARD, BUT WE RAN OUT OF MONEY. WE THE -- WE HAD THE CORONAVIRUS RELIEF FUND AND IT EXPIRED.

WE GOT IT BACK UP AND RUNNING BECAUSE THERE WAS ANOTHER GRANT WE APPLIED FOR IN PUBLIC HEALTH AND WE RECEIVED IT.

WE CAN USE THOSE DOLLARS TO GET THE DASHBOARD UP.

DON'T GET ME WRONG. YOU MAY SAY, WELL THAT'S NOT THAT GREAT. IT IS SOMETHING BETTER THAN NOT HAVING ANYTHING. THAT COMMUNITY RISK DASHBOARD

HAS SOME OF THE PARAMETERS. >> I RECALL THAT.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IT HAS CAPACITY, BUT IT IS UPDATED EVERY DAY AND NOT EVERY HOUR.

THE DASHBOARD IS VERY HELPFUL.

TO GET MORE MONEY IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR PERSONNEL AND GRANTS AND PROGRAMS THEY ASK YOU DO YOU HAVE A DASHBOARD? EVEN IF NONE OF US THINK IT IS GREAT, IT TURNS OUT THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES THINK IT IS GREAT.

THE OTHER THING THEY ASK ABOUT IS A COMMUNITY SURVEY AND SO WE INITIATED ONE. I DON'T THINK IT IS IN THE FIELD, BUT IT WILL BE. IT WILL ASK PEOPLE OUT THERE, TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT EVERYTHING.

WE'LL GET IT BACK. IT IS BEING RUN BY A COMPANY CALLED ZEN CITY AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THEIR RESOURCE WITH YOU SO THEY CAN SHOW YOU THE WEEKLY SUMMARIES OF WHAT THEY ARE GETTING BACK ONCE THEY START.

AND THEN FINALLY THERE IS A THIRD DASHBOARD THAT IS UP AND IT SHOWCASES HOW ZIP CODES REFLECT COMORBIDITIES.

IF DIABETES IS MORE PREVALENT IN THE RURAL AREAS IN THIS LITTLE SECTION AND WE KNOW THAT THEY MIGHT WANT -- IT

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HELPS YOU PINPOINT PROGRAMS FOR HYPERTENSION AND FOR OBESITY AND FOR ALL OF THE COMORBIDITIES.

AND IT ALSO INCLUDES VACCINATIONS.

IF THERE IS A NEED -- FOR EXAMPLE THE STATE OF TEXAS SAID I AM SENDING YOU FOUR TEAMS. BY THE WAY, THEY CALL US AND WE DON'T CALL THEM.

THEY ARE SENDING US TEAMS. WE WANT TO FOCUS HERE.

WE SAY, YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

HERE IS WHAT WE CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THE POPULATION BASED ON THE SOCIAL DETERMINE NENTS OF -- DERRELL NENTS OF HEALTH.

IT IS EXCITING YOU CAN MARRY THIS UP, BUT I BET YOU DON'T HAVE AWARENESS TO THAT. BY THE WAY, IT IS DASHBOARD SO ANYONE CAN -- ONCE IT IS UP YOU CAN ACCESS IT.

THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOUR BOARD.

AND FINALLY I SPOKE WITH DR. MODLEY AND YOU KNOW WHO HAS NO HEALTH CARE CLINIC IS OUR FRIENDS NEXT DOOR, SAN PAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF YOU AND THE REGIONAL ADVISORY -- LET'S SEE, THE REGIONAL HEALTH ADVISORY BOARD WHICH IS LIKE YOU, BUT BIGGER. THEY ENCOMPASS MORE COUNTIES.

MAYBE YOU CAN WORK TOGETHER TO GET THE SAME INFORMATION TO OUR NEIGHBORS OVER THE BRIDGE.

GUESS WHICH HOSPITALS THEY ARE USING.

THESE HOSPITALS. I HOPE THAT THAT HELPS A

LITTLE. >> IT DOES.

IT HELPS AN AWFUL LOT. I AM VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT.

THERE WAS A MENTION OF 10 COVID DEATHS --

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YESTER. >> I BELIEVE THAT WAS ALL IN

ONE DAY? >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I THINK IT WAS 11, BUT I ALSO HEARD THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE LATE. WHEN WE REPORTED IT THERE WAS 10. THEY RANGE FROM THEIR 30S, 40S, 50S, 60S AND 70S AND THEN WE CAN ALSO TELL YOU IF THEY HAD COMPLEXITIES TO THEIR -- IT IS NOT A LOT.

OBVIOUSLY FOR THE PROTECTION OF PRIVACY, BUT WE CAN TELL YOU MALE OR FEMALE -- NOT NAMES.

BUT MALE, FEMALE, AGES AND COMORBIDITIES.

IT IS ALWAYS INCREDIBLY SAD WHEN YOU SEE PEOPLE THAT ARE

YOUNG. >> IT IS.

IT IS EXTREMELY SAD. I WAS EXTREMELY SHOCKED TO SEE THE 10 DEATHS IN ONE DAY AND TO SEE THAT THERE WERE, I BELIEVE, FIVE BREAKTHROUGH CASE DEATHS.

I THINK THAT WAS IN A WEEK OR MAY HAVE BEEN TWO WEEKS.

>> I THINK IT WAS THE LAST TWO WEEKS.

AND THOSE BREAKTHROUGHS ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE VACCINATED AND DO SUCCUMB TO COVID-19 AND DO UNFORTUNATELY IN THIS CASE THEY WERE BREAKTHROUGH FATALITIES.

THEY DID PASS AWAY. AND SOME OF THEM HAD SERIOUS IMMUNO CHALLENGES FROM CANCER ALL THE WAY TO RENAL FAILURE.

>> YOU MENSED THE DASHBOARD -- YOU MENTIONED THE DASHBOARD.

A LOT OF IT COMES OUT IN THE PRESS RELEASES OF THE CITY OR COUNTY ON THEIR DEATHS AND ON THE CASES, THE BREAKTHROUGH CASES. I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE PUBLIC IF WE WERE GETTING THE INFORMATION BETTER BROKEN DOWN AND LIKE THE -- CURRENTLY WE HAVE UNVACCINATED AND VACCINATED. THERE SEEMS TO BE FIVE CATEGORIES THERE. THERE'S NO MENTION OF THE UNKNOWN STATUS. THERE MIGHT BE SOME KNOWN.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT. >> THERE IS NO MENTION OF UN KNOWN VACCINATION STATUS. THERE IS NO MENTION IF IT IS

PARTIALLY VACCINATED. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YOU MEAN IN OTHER WORDS IF THEY HAD ONE DOSE.

>> IF IT WAS ONE WEEK OR TWO WEEKS OR IF THEY ARE INDEED COMPLETELY VACCINATED AND POST TWO WEEKS.

THAT IS BENEFICIAL TO US. RIGHT NOW FROM WHAT IS GOING ON IN YOU ARE -- GOING ON IN OUR STATE AND THE NATION AND THE MEDIA, IT IS VERY VACCINATED, UNVACCINATED.

THAT'S NOT THE ACTUALITY OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING THE VACCINE AND ARE WAITING THEIR TWO WEEKS.

PEOPLE WHO HAVE GOTTEN ONE VACCINE AND ARE WAITING TO GET THE SECOND OR THEY HAD A BAD REACTION AND NOT GETTING THE SECOND. QUA WE GO -- COULD WE GO BACK

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TO GIVING THE INFORMATION IN THAT KIND OFBACK THROUGH -- THAT KIND OF BACK THROUGH FOR THE DEATH IN COVID CASES.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I WILL TELL YOU THAT I WILL ADVOCATE FOR AS MUCH DETAIL AS WE CAN FIND AND DO.

I I WILL TELL YOU THAT I HAVE SEPTEMBER NOT ONE, NOT TWO, NOT THREE LETTERS -- I'M SORRY, NOT TWO, NOT TWO, BUT THREE LETTERS REQUESTING THE CITY OPEN THE HR PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN HIRE AN AN ASSISTANT HEALTH DIRECTOR WHO HAS A BACKGROUND IN PUBLIC HEALTH AND THAT HAS BEEN A BIG ISSUE OF MINE. GUESS WHO COULD REALLY HELP US WITH THAT. WHEN YOU HAVE A SECOND GAPING HOLE YOU NEED THEM TO HELP YOU WITH THE STATISTICIAN PIECE OF IT. I AGREE THAT THE MORE WE CAN KNOW, THE BETTER IT IS. I WILL TELL YOU THAT I WILL ALSO ASK -- WE HAVE A HIERARCHY AT THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND STATE SERVICES. MY FAVORITE PERSON WAS PROMOTED AND SO I HAVE TO FIND OUT WHO THIS PERSON IS, BUT I WILL ASK OUR REGIONAL HEALTH AUTHORITY TO LOOK FOR THAT NAME AND MAYBE THE STATE WILL HAVE SOME DATA THAT WE CAN ALSO PROVIDE. WITH REGARDS TO THE ONE AND THE TWO AND I GUESS IT IS ALL ABOUT THE INFORMATION THAT THE PATIENT IS WILLING TO PROVIDE.

MOST OF THE TIME YOU DO FIND OUT THROUGH THEIR DOCTOR AND THROUGH THE HOSPITAL WHEN THEY WERE VACCINATED AND IF THEY

WISH THAT TO BE KNOWN. >> YES.

IT IS IF THEY WISH TO PROVIDE AND WE ALSO KEEP TRACK OF ALL

COVID VACCINES. >> THROUGH M TRACK 2.

YES. IT IS EASIER IF WE KNOW IT HERE. THE DATA COMES QUICKER.

IT IS LIKE WHEN YOU SEE THE DELAYED COVID POSITIVITIES.

SOMETIMES YOU SEE THE BACKLOG.

YOU THINK TO YOURSELF HOW COME YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT? THE PROCESS IS SOMEWHAT COMPLEX AND THERE IS SOME THEY TAKE AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC HEALTH.

THEY HANDLE THOSE POSITIVITY FROM THE PRIVATE LABS.

IF THE DEATH CERTIFICATE CAME AS A RESULT OF IT BEING LOCAL WE WOULD KNOW IT. IF IT DOESN'T IT COMES BACK AROUND SIX WEEKS LATER AND YOU ARE LOGGING IN ANOTHER DEATH.

THOLE OF THOSE THINGS ARE APPARENT TO THOSE OF US INSIDE PUBLIC HEALTH, BUT MAYBE NOT TO THOSE OUTSIDE.

IT IS OUR DUTY TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION.

ALL OF THE THINGS YOU ASK FOR ARE REASONABLE AND THEY SHOULD BE ATTEMPTED TO BE BROUGHT FORTH IN THE MANNER WE CAN.

I ASK YOU WORK WITH ME SO WE SCAN -- SO WE CAN LOOK TOGETHER. I AM WILLING TO GET THAT

INFORMATION TO YOU. >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

WOULD LOVE TO WORK TOGETHER IN THE FUTURE TO HELP THE

COMMUNITY. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: RIGHT.

>> GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION THEY NEED.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WE WILL ASK THE HOSPITALS TO HELP EXPLAIN. THIS IS A HEALTH CARE CRISIS SO LET'S PUT HEALTH CARE EXPERTS IN FRONT OF IT.

IF WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR COMMUNITY CAN BE GUIDED CORRECTLY, THEN USE YOUR MEDICAL HEALTH EXPERTS AND NOT

ANYBODY ELSE. >> THE RSV PORTION OF WHAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW, I THINK THAT WAS MISSED IN THE

DECLARATION. >> YOU'RE SO RIGHT.

I WAS ASKED ABOUT THAT SUPER LATE.

IT IS A GOOD POINT. RSV IS RUNNING RAMPANT, IT IS THE RHINO VIRUS, AN UPPER RESPIRATORY VIRUS AND IT IS VERY PREDOMINANT IN CHILDREN, BUT BELIEVE IT OR NOT I AS AN ADULT HAD IT SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, MAYBE A MONTH AGO WHEN I WAS VERY, VERY SICK. RHINO VIRUS IS ALSO CONTRIBUTING TO THE HOSPITAL EYE -- HOSPITALIZATIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND UPPER RESPIRATORY IN THE SCHOOLS.

NO DOUBT. THERE COULD ALSO BE A STATUS CALL WE COULD HAVE IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO REPRESENT

THE BOARD. >> I'M NOT SURE IT IS A RHINO

VIRUS. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THE

RSV? >> I BELIEVE IT IS A DIFFERENT

FAMILY OF VIRUSES. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: LET ME LOOK IT UP HERE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE

THAT AFFECTS CHILDREN? >> YES.

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>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IT IS RESPIRATORY CENTENNIAL VIRUS.

>> IT IS NOT RHINO. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: SORRY THE THERE IS A RHINO, BUT THIS ONE RIGHT HERE IS THE UPPER RESPIRATORY ONE. THE RESPIRATORY --

>> IT IS -- QULNG -- I THINK IT IS CALLED -- IT IS AN IN -- INFLAMMATION OF THE LUNGS.

RSV IS DEFINITELY HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL AND YOU'RE RIGHT, WE OUGHT TO BE BROADCASTING THOSE SYMPTOMS AND MAKING SURE OUR FAMILIES GET THAT INFORMATION.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME.

AND DON'T FORGET SINCE I DON'T HAVE YOUR NUMBER, WOULD YOU MIND STOPPING BY NEXT DOOR AND PROVIDING THAT?

>> YES, I WILL. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: AND YOU CAN TAKE ONE OF OUR CARDS AS WELL.

COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD AT THIS TIME? OKAY.

SO WE WILL -- I AM DOUBLE CHECKING.

[2. Receive a report from third party reviewer on the Johnson Controls Inc., Phase I and Phase II Energy Savings Performance Contracts.]

WE HAVE ITEMS TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE REGULAR AGENDA AND THAT IS TO RECEIVE A REPORT WITH REGARD TO NUECES ANIMAL CARE SERVICES INCLUDING THE AUTONOMY -- GOSH, WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME? I AM FOLLOWING THE NUMBERS HERE. NUMBER 1.

NUMBER 2 RECEIVE A REPORT FROM THIRD PARTY REVIEWERS REGARDING JOHNSON CONTROLS INC. PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2 ENERGY SAVINGS PERFORMANCE CONTRACTS AND WHO DO WE HAVE

ON THE LINE? >> WE HAVE PHIL CO WITH JOHNSON CONTROL AND THIRD PARTY REVIEWER AL GARZA WHICH IS ON -- HE'S ONLINE. EACH ONE OF THEM HAS A

REPORT. >> WAS THAT PROVIDED TO US?

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WAS THAT PROVIDED TO US?

>> THE REPORT WAS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA, CORRECT, CONNIE?

>> WE GOT IT THIS MORNING. >> AND THEN AL GARZA JUST SUBMITTED HIS THIS MORNING. I WILL EMAIL THAT OUT.

>> WE GOT THE OTHER ONE JUST THIS MORNING? HOW DID WE GET THAT ONE THIS MORNING?

I DON'T HAVE IT. >> I THOUGHT WE HAD IT IN

TIME. >> I DIDN'T SEE THAT ONE

EITHER. >> WE DIDN'T GET THEM UNTIL THIS MORNING? I DON'T HAVE IT.

>> I'M SORRY. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE WILL LISTEN TO YOUR PRESENTATION AND HAVE YOU BACK AGAIN NEXT COURT SO WE HAVE THE TIME TO REALLY

REVIEW AND ASK QUESTIONS. >> JUDGE I THINK WE SHOULD TABLE IT. I HAVE NO REPORT AND HAVE NO CHANCE TO READ OR DIGEST IT. I MOVE WE TABLE THIS BECAUSE

THERE IS NO BACK UP. >> SECOND.

>> THAT'S FINE, COMMISSIONER. I AGREE.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: ALL RIGHT.

WE WOULD LIKE -- HAVE I A MOTION.

I -- I HAVE A MOTION AND I HEARD A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY

SAYING I. >> I.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THE DATE WILL BE NEXT COURT.

BILL, JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, COMMISSIONERS, IT IS THE WILL OF THE COURT TO MAKE CERTAIN THEY HAVE IN ADVANCE THE PRESENTATION SO THEY CAN BE BETTER PREPARED TO LISTEN TO YOUR PRESENTATION AND ASK APPROPRIATE QUESTIONS.

SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE YOU BACK NEXT COURT.

>> THAT'S OKAY. I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND LETTING US PRESENT THE REPORT.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THANK YOU, BILL.

THE NEXT ITEM IS RECEIVE THE UPDATE ON THE ENERGY SAVINGS

[3. Receive update on Energy Savings Performance Contract with ABM Building Services, LLC for Capital Improvement Program (CIP).]

PERFORMANCE CONTRACT WITH ABM BUILDING SERVICES FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. THEY ARE HERE IN COURT WITH US. I CAN SEE THEM WALKING IN.

WE WILL MOVE TO ASK TINER WHO WILL BE PRESENTING TODAY.

>> FOR ABM THAT WOULD BE MIKE BAILEY.

>> JUDGE, THIS -- I WANT TO DO THIS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TOO. I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD --

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WELL, I THINK THERE ARE TWO ISSUES.

MAYBE YOU HAVE A LEGAL, BUT THIS IS THE UPDATE ON THE CONTRACT ITSELF. YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE -- HOW WOULD YOU NOT ASK THE LEGAL QUESTION --

>> I WANT TO HEAR, BUT I AM TRYING TO DO IT LIKE THE OTHER ONE WE ARE DOING. I ASKED MS. DORSEY FOR PERTINENT INFORMATION TO REVIEW IN LEGAL SESSION.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IF YOU THINK IT IS RELATED WE

WILL HOLD. >> IT IS DEFINITELY RELATED.

THIS IS A PRESENTATION ON THE --

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>> THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.

THE FINANCES AND WHAT HAS BEEN DONE TO DATE COULD BE ADDRESSED COMPLETELY APART FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION ISSUES IF THE COURT IS DESIRING THAT.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR --

>> I DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR IT, BUT I AM TRYING TO FIGURE

OUT WHAT ORDER. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I WILL ASK THEM PLEASE TO JUST GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE PROGRESS AND PLEASE MAKE YOURSELF AVAILABLE AND WE WILL GO INTO THE DOLLARS AND CENTS AND THE CONTRACT AT A LATER POINT IN TIME IN THE MEETING. LET'S JUST STICK TO -- IF YOU DRIFT INTO THE WRONG AREA, I'LL STOP YOU.

>> THERE YOU GO. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HONOR BOTH THE LEGAL QUESTIONS AND THE -- IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO COME BACK AND ASK YOU.

GO UH HE, MIKE. GO AHEAD, MIKE.

>> ONE MORE QUESTION. I'M SORRY.

ALSO THE CIP, IS THAT FOR 2019 OR WHAT? I THINK WE NEED TO PUT THE YEAR.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM JUST REFERS TO THOSE PROJECT THAT'S WERE A PART OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THAT HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE CONTRACT. THE CIP IS A LIVING DOCUMENT.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHICH ONES THEY WERE WORKING ON, I WOULD

SAY THEY WERE 2019, 2020. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> AND THIS IS RELATED TO THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT THAT WE

HAVE IN OUR BUDGET, RIGHT? >> ALL OF THIS IS INCLUDED IN

THAT. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: ALL OF THE WORK YOU ARE ABOUT TO HEAR ABOUT.

>> ALL RIGHT. LET'S GIVE IT A SHOT.

GAR

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: ALL RIGHT, MIKE.

>> JUDGE CANALES AND COMMISSIONERS THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE TO PRESENT AN UPDATE ON THE PROJECT WE ARE DELIVERING TO YOU.

THE PRESENTATION I AM GIVING TODAY IS ONE THAT GOES THROUGH THE SCOPES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN THE CONTRACT. AND THEN FOR EACH OF THOSE SCOPES WE WILL BE PROVIDING A PROGRESS REPORT ON WHERE WE ARE FOR THE INSTALLATION. IT IS CRITICAL THAT WE BE TRANSPARENT AND THAT COMMUNICATION IS ESSENTIAL.

WE ARE STILL DEALING WITH COVID SUPPLY ISSUES AND WE WILL DELAY A PROJECT AND IT WILL CAUSE ISSUES TO COME UP.

WE BELIEVE IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND ACTIVE COMMUNICATION WITH YOURS AND WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, IF YOU

WILL. >> YOU ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT

THE COST SAVINGS? >> IF I CAN.

>> THAT WOULD BE A BIG PART OF IT FOR ME.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW IF I WASO GO T. THAT'S AT THE END.

>> THAT'S FINE. >> AS I WAS SAYING, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT TRANSPARENCY AND PROVIDE THE OPEN COMMUNICATION LINK, ONE OF THE THINGS WE PREPARE IS ON A BY WEEKLY BASIS A PROJECT STATUS REPORT.

THE PROJECT STATUS REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO EACH OF YOU AND ALONG WITH A BINGED -- BINDER TO KEEP UP WITH AND IT IS OCCURRING WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

AND WE HAVE PROVIDED A STATUS UPDATE FOR EVERYTHING THAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WE LOOK AT ANY ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND ARE DOCUMENTED IN THAT REPORT.

WE ALSO PROVIDE A SNAP SHOT OF WHAT IS PLANNED TO OCCUR IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. AND SO THERE IS CLEAR AND ACCURATE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN OURS AND OUR DELIVERY TEAM AND PUBLIC WORKS ON WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES THEY ARE DOCUMENTED IN THAT AND WE ARE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE GOING FORWARD. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AS I SAID, WE ARE GOING TO DO A QUICK REVIEW OF EACH OF THE SCOPE ITEMS. IT IS BY FACILITY.

THIS IS THE SCOPE FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS.

IT IS A REPLACEMENT OF THE 70-TON UNIT THAT HAD GONE OUT AND THE INSTALLATION OF THE FANS BOTH INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR. THE ROOF REPLACEMENT AND THE PAVING AND THE LANDSCAPING AND CONCRETE REPAIR TO THE WALKWAYS AND CONCRETE REPLACE MEANT -- REPLACEMENT AND PAINTING AND THE OUTDOOR STAGE LIGHTING.

THE COURT APPROVED AN ORDER THAT ALLOWED US TO REPLACE THE CEILING TILE IN THE EXHIBIT HALL.

THAT IS ALONG WITH REFURBISHING THE COLUMNS IN

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COLUMN A. THIS IS AN OVER VIEW OF THE WORK BE -- BEING DONE. THE LIGHT GREEN AREAS ARE THE CONCRETE BEING REPLACED. THE BLUE IS THE PAVING BEING REPLACED. EVERY ONE OF THE RED ROOF AREAS THAT YOU SEE ON ALL OF THE FACILITIES ARE GOING TO BE REPLACED. THE LANDSCAPING IS IN THE DARKER GREEN AREAS AND AROUND THE CIRCLE AS YOU COME IN TO PROVIDE AN AESTHETICALLY PLEASING ENVIRONMENT.

WE ARE GOING TO BE INSTALLING ADDITIONAL LIGHTING AND THAT'S ONE OF THE AREA THAT'S WAS WELL UNDER LIT AND WE AREN HAPPENS -- WE ENHANCING THAT. WE ARE REPLACING THE LIGHTING IN THE EXHIBIT HALLS AND THE BARNES AS WELL.

WE ARE INSTALLING LED LIGHTING OUTSIDE.

AND JUST TO THE RIGHT OF THE CIRCLE AND THE LEFT OF THE FLAGPOLE IS THE ORIGINAL PLACEMENT OF THE AMPHITHEATER BEING PROPOSED FOR THE FACILITY.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS UP FOR DISCUSSION TODAY -- WELL NOT TODAY, BUT WE WILL BE SEEKING A DECISION ON IS THE FINAL PLACEMENT OF THE AMPHITHEATER. YOU SAW WHERE THE ORIGINAL PLACEMENT WAS. THAT'S SHOWN AGAIN ON THE LEFT. THERE HAS BEEN A DISCUSSION WITH LAND AND STAFF ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF BECAUSE THERE IS TALK OF CHANGING IT TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE FLAG POST AND THAT WOULD ADDRESS SOME UTILITY EASE MEANT ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP. NO DECISION THAT IS BEEN MADE AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE WILL BE SEEKING A DECISION ON.

THIS IS A TIMELINE. YOU CAN GO THROUGH THERE AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE 25% REFINISHING THE COLUMNS.

THE CEILING TILE IS JUST STARTING.

THE OUTDOOR STAGE HAS NOT COMMENCED WORK YET.

CARPET REPLACEMENT AND PAINTING IS ALMOST DONE.

THE SCONE -- THE CONCRETE REPAIR WILL BE DELAYED.

YOU CAN HAVE THE OUTDOOR LIGHTING DONE BEFORE WE COMMENCE THAT. WE DON'T WANT TO DO WORK THAT HAS HAS SAW CUT. THAT'S ONE THAT HASN'T STARTED YET. PARKING LOTTERY PLACEMENT IS ALONG AS WELL AS THE ROOF REPLACEMENT ON EACH OF THE FACILITIES. WE STARTED DOING EXTERIOR LIGHTING ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE LIGHTING.

THE LED LIGHTING IS JUST STARTING IN THE FACILITY.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE KIND OF FACED WITH THE COVID SITUATION, LIKE WITH THE LED LIGHTING, THE TIMELINE -- THE SUPPLY FOR THAT IS USUALLY PRETTY QUICK.

ROOF INSTALLATION IS ANOTHER ONE.

ROOF INSTALLATION HAS BEEN DELAYED BY EIGHT MONTHS.

WE ARE STILL ON A TIMELINE FOR APRIL 30TH.

BUT IT DOES REQUIRE US TO SAY AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS. WE CAME IN AND DID THAT ASAP TO SERVE THAT AREA OF THE COUNTY.

>> THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE ROOFING GOING IN.

IT IS TESTING AND CERTIFIED. WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A VERY GOOD SOLUTION. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN OCCURRED. IT IS MOVING ALONG RAPIDLY.

THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE FARMING THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE AS WELL AS SOME OF THE COMPLETED PAVING.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE SAME THING.

IT IS BETWEEN THE CONCRETE AND PREVENTING WATER PENETRATION

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DAMAGE THAT COULD OCCUR. IF YOU SAW THE CARPET AND WHAT IT WAS BEFORE, YOU CAN SEE THE NEW CARPET IN AND THE DRAMATIC CHANGE IT HAS MADE TO THE FACILITY.

YOU CAN SEE THE PAINT THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

YOU CAN SEE THE WANES COAT GRAY AND THEN OFF WHITE ABOVE THAT. YOU CAN SEE IN THE BOTTOM WHITE PICTURE, THE COLUMNS, HOW THEY ARE COPPING ALONG.

THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT WAS BEFORE THAT WAS DONE.

IT IS TO IMPROVE THE AESTHETICS OF THE FACILITY AND IMPROVE THE RENT ABILITY FOR SPECTRUM.

IT WILL CULMINATE IN A FACILITY YOU CAN BE PROUD OF AND IT WILL BE A GREAT ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE

RENTABLE SPACE. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I WAS AT A 4H BANQUET AND THEY SAID THE HOLIDAY INN HAS RAISED THE RATES. AND THEY WILL BE MOVING ONCE THEY SAW THIS SPACE. THEY WERE MOVING TO THIS SPACE.

NOW IT MET THEIR CRITERIA FOR THEIR EVENTS AND IT WAS MORE ECONOMIC. IT IS WHAT WE NEEDED TO MAKE THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS WORK.

WE CAN GET INTO THE LIGHTING FIXTURES.

TO BE HONEST IT IS HARD TO PROVIDE PICTURES THAT DO IT JUSTICE. AT ANY POINT IN TIME WE WOULD INVITE YOU TO SCHEDULE A TIME TO COME OUT TO THE SITE AND SEE IT PERSONALLY. YOU WILL GET A BETTER IDEA OF THE WORK BEING DONE AS WELL AS THE CHANGE IN THE LIGHTING.

THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS OUT THERE THAT WAS LEAKING THROUGH THE WINDOWS. WE WERE REPLACING THE GASKET SYSTEMS AROUND THE ROLL UP DOORS AS WELL AS THE ENTRANCE DOORS. I CAN SEE MY SCREEN BETTER THAN Y'ALL. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE LIGHTING THAT YOU CAN SEE BOTH BEFORE AND AFTER. YOU CAN SEE BEFORE YOU HAD IT ON THE LEFT AND THERE IS A GREATER LIGHT LEVEL IN THE FACILITY. THE NEXT IS THE OUTDOOR LIGHTING THAT IS GOING IN WE ARE REPLACING THE EXISTING HEADS WITH THE LED FIXTURES TO AGAIN PROVIDE GREATER LIGHT.

WE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE, AS I SAID, ADDING FIXTURES TO THE PARKING LOT AREAS AS WELL. THEY WILL PROVIDE THE ADDITIONAL LIGHT LEVELS AND WILL PROVIDE BETTER SECURITY FOR THOSE IN UH -- IN ATTENDANCE.

>> MOVING TO THE COURTHOUSE, THIS IS THE SCOPE OF WORK IN THE COURTHOUSE. REPLACEMENT OF THE BOILERS.

THERE WAS ONE DESIGNATED IN THE CIP TO BE REPLACED BY DOING THE THREE WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE REDUNDANCY THAT WILL ALLOW MAINTENANCE TO OCCUR AND THEY ARE SUFFICIENT TO SERVICE THE DEMAND. WE WANT A SYSTEM.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS CRITICAL IS THAT YOU HAVE CLEAN WATER. FAILURE TO HAVE CLEAN WATER AND IT CAUSES IT TO LOSE EFFICIENCY AND IT WILL ADDRESS THE WATER SIDE OF THE CHILL WATER SYSTEM.

AIR CURTAINS ARE BEING INSTALLED AT THE DOORS.

THIS IS TO ALLOW FOR -- TO PREVENT THE HOT AIR COMING IN AND ALLOW MORE -- ALLOW FOR MORE EFFICIENT COOLING.

WE ARE USING THE ARMOR TO COAT AND EXTEND THE LIFE OF SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT IS NOT AT THE END OF ITS LIFE.

I HAVE EXAMPLES OF THAT. WE ARE REPLACING SOME PUMPS

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AND WE ARE GOING TO BE INSTALLING LED LIGHTING WITHIN THIS FACILITY. THROUGHOUT THE THREE FLOORS OF THE COURTHOUSE WE ARE FIXING THE FIXTURES TO A MORE AESTHETIC FIXTURE. THAT WILL BE OCCURRING AS FAR AS THE INSTALLATION. THERE IS A BUILDING ENVELOPE MODIFICATIONS HERE AS WELL. THE TRANSFORMER UPGRADES HERE ARE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE TRANSFORMERS THAT ARE BEING ADDRESSED. THESE ARE IN THE BUILDING NOW, AND THEY ARE NOT THE TRANSFORMERS THAT Y'ALL ARE LOOKING AT THAT HAS TO BE REPLACED FOR THE GENERATOR INSTALLATION. I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

THERE WAS A NO COST CHANGE ORDER APPROVED BY THE COURT.

THAT WAS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HOT WATER NEEDS.

ONE OF THE THINGS IN DISCUSSION WITH PUBLIC WORKS WAS THEY HAD AN ON GOING MAINTENANCE ISSUE WITH THE HEAT EXCHANGERS THAT WERE GENERATING THE TEAM TO BE ABLE TO HEAT THE WATER FOR THE JAIL SITE.

WE CAME BACK AND DID A DESIGN AT NO COST TO ADDRESS THAT AND TAKE IT OFF THEIR PLATE FOR A MORE RELIABLE SYSTEM.

IT WAS DONE AND APPROVED BY THE COURT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 100% OF THE BUILDING ENVELOPE. HVAC ARMOR IS 98%.

THE STEAM BOILERS, THAT WORK IS COMMENCING AND I HAVE PICTURES OF THAT. THE NEW BOILER ARRIVED THIS MORNING. THE PROCESS IS MOVING FORWARD QUITE QUICKLY AND WE WILL BE GETTING THOSE PLACED AND PIPED IN HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS TO GET THAT ESTABLISHED. NEXT SLIDE.

WE WENT IN AND DEMOED OUT THE WOIL -- BOILERS.

WE ARE BRINGING IN THREE NEW EFFICIENT DEPENDABLE BOILERS.

IN MAKING THE SELECTION, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES SURE IS YOU HAVE A SYSTEM THAT IS DEPENDABLE.

YOU HAVE BOILERS IN THERE IN THE PAST THAT I WON'T SAY FINICKY, BUT HARD TO MAIN MAIN, AND WE HAVE MADE A SELECTION OF BOILERS THAT WE BELIEVE ARE MORE DEPENDABLE AND EASIER TO MAINTAIN. IT WILL PROVIDE THE REDUNDANCY AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE HAVE DEMOED THAT OUT AND AS OF TODAY IT HAS ARRIVED ON SITE AND WRY ARE PUTTING THEM -- AND WE ARE PUTTING THEM IN PLACE.

NEXT SLIDE. AT THE COUNTY JAIL WE WILL BE REPLACING OLE CONTROLS WITH NEW CONTROLS.

THERE ARE LEAKS AND THEY ARE NOT DEPENDABLE.

THIS IS A GREAT ASSET IN THIS FACILITY.

WE ARE LOOKING AT REPLACING 18 AIR HANDLING UNITS AND FIVE FCU'S. WE ARE LOOKING AT REFURBISHING 18 AIR HANDLING UNITS. WE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE ADDRESSING AND AS WE WENT THROUGH THE DESIGN PHASE IT ENSURES WE ARE MEETING THE JAIL STANDARDS.

IT IS CRITICAL THAT TAKE PLACE.

THE LED LIGHTING THERE AS WELL.

BUILDING MODIFICATIONS AND PIPING INSTALLATIONS WHERE WE DO WATER CONSERVATION IN THE FACILITY.

WATER IS A PRECIOUS COMMODITY AND WE WANT TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO SAVE WATER AND THE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

WE ARE PUTTING IN A NEW OZONE LAUNDRY SYSTEM.

AS IT RELATES TO THE JAIL AND THE NO COST ORDER, WE ARE REPLACING TWO ADDITIONAL AIR HANDLING UNITS.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS OUR PROGRESS THERE.

IT IS WRAPPING UP AND THE REFURBISH MEANT OF THE AIR HANDLING UNITS HAS COMMENCED. THE REPLACEMENT OF THE PNEUMATIC CONTROLS. IT WILL BE BASED ON THE INSTALLATION AND THE CONTROLS WILL BE NECESSARY TO ENSURE

THAT THEY WORK PROPERLY. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: ON THOSE AIR HANDLERS, MIKE, ON THE REPLACED, IS THAT A SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUE? HOW QUICKLY CAN WE GET THOSE

GOING? >> DID WE ORDER THOSE? THEY ARE ORDERED AND WE ARE WAITING FOR DELIVERY ON

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THOSE. I WILL GET AN UPDATE AND PROVIDE THAT BACK WHEN WORK WILL COMMENCE.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YOU ARE CONCENTRATING ON THE REFURBISH MEANT WHILE YOU WAIT FOR THE NEW ONES TO COME IN?

>> WE ARE LOOKING AT MOVING FORWARD WITH BOTH AT THE SAME

TIME. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: SUPER.

THANK YOU. >> NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS THE WATER UPGRADES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE WITH THE CONTROL SYSTEMS. IT IS A TRIAL REPLACEMENT AND THOSE THINGS. THE NEXT SLIDE.

THIS SLIDE HERE GIVES YOU A FEEL FOR THE HVSC ARMOR.

THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS RUSTED AND THE MIDDLE PICTURE IS CLEANING AND THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT HAS BEEN RECOATED AND WE WILL EXTENT THE LIFE RATHER THAN HAVING TO REPLACE IT AT THIS TIME. NEXT SLIDE.

MCKENZIE ANNEX. THIS IS ONE WHERE WE ARE DOING, AGAIN, A TREATMENT SYSTEM.

WE ARE REPLACING THE SYSTEM WHERE WE ARE BRINGING IN TWO NEW 200-TON CHILLERS. WE ARE REPLACING THE TWO COOLING TOWERS. THERE IS ONE DX SYSTEM THAT IS -- IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. WE ARE DOING THE ARMOR INSTALLATION. THERE IS LED LIGHTING AND WATER CONSERVATION. NEXT SLIDE? THIS IS THE PROGRESS. YOU CAN SEE IT IS COMPLETE AND THE LED LIGHTING IS CLOSE TO BEING COMPLETE.

HVAC ARMOR IS 100%. THE REPLACEMENT OF THE COOLING TOWER AND THE TWO 200-TON CHILLERS IS MOVING FORWARD AT 50 AND 60%. YOU WILL SEE THE PICTURES OF THAT IN A SECOND. IN REPLACING THE CHILLERS AT THE MCKENZIE ANNEX, THE CIP IDENTIFIED THE REPLACEMENT OF THE CHILLERS. WHEN WE DID OUR WALK THROUGH AND ANALYSIS, WE NOTED THAT THE CHILLER PLANT DID NOT PROVIDE FOR REDUNDANCY. YOU COULD NOT ISOLATE ONE CHILLER AND ONE SET OF PUMPS FOR THE BUILDING.

THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BESET UP.

WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS GUTTED THE FACILITY.

WE REMOVED THE PIPING AND THE PUMPING AND THE EXISTING CHILLERS AND WE ARE INSTALLING NEW PUMPS AND PIPING AND SO

YOU WILL HAVE A NEW PLANT. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IT GETS TO BE 98 DEGREES WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR CHILLER RUNNING CORRECTLY IN ABOUT -- I THINK WE FIGURED OUT IT WAS FOUR OR FIVE HOURS.

IT WAS INSANE HOW QUICKLY HOT IT GETS.

NOT ONLY DOES IT VIOLATE JAIL STANDARDS, BUT CREATE AN UNUH TENABLE SITUATION FOR LAW AND ORDER AND SAFETY.

>> THE RENTAL CHILLER FAILED AND WE MOVED TO BRING IN A SECOND CHILLER. IT IS TO GET IT UP AND RUNNING AND NOW WE HAVE TWO TILLERS ON SITE TO ENSURE THE ISSUE.

>> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE COURT UNDERSTOOD.

>> THIS IS THE CHILLERS THEMSELVES GOING IN.

YOU CAN SEE THE PIPING AND THE NEW PUMPING SYSTEMS GOING IN.

THAT'S TO PROVIDE A NEW STATE-OF-THE-ART PLANT.

THE NEXT PICTURE THIS IS INSTALLATION -- REALLY THE CHILLERS ARE ARRIVING ON SITE AND THE CRANES ARE PUTTING THE COOLING TOWERS ON THE ROOF AND MOUNTING THOSE.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS A DIFFERENT ANGLE OF THE PIPING GOING IN AND A DIFFERENT ANGLE OF THE TOWER MOUNTED -- THE COOLING TOWER. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

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WE HAVE HVAC ARMOR AND OPTIMIZATION DOING LED LIGHTING AND ROOF REPLACEMENT WHICH IS CRITICAL.

AND THERE IS PARKING LOTTERY PLACEMENT AND REPAIR THERE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, THE LED LIGHTING IS COMPLETE. THEY ARE STARTING WORK AT THE PARKING LOT. AS I MENTIONED, THE ROOF REPLACEMENT IS CONTINGENT ON GETTING THE INSTALLATION WHICH AS I SAID HAS AN EIGHT-MONTH LEAD TIME.

THAT IS A CRITICAL COME PONE INEPT OVER THERE WITH -- COMPONENT OVER THERE WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES THEY HAD.

WE USE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 302.

THAT'S WHAT WE USE FOR THE COUNTY FOR CONTRACTING.

THE LEGISLATION AUTHORIZES THE USE OF PERFORMANCE CONTRACTING TO ADDRESS AND FUND FACILITY NEEDS.

IT ALLOWS THE RESOURCE OF SAVINGS TO BE ALLOWED.

ONE IS ENERGY SAVINGS AND THE SECOND IS OPERATIONAL SAVINGS AND THE THIRD THAT IS ALLOWABLE IS CAPITAL COST AVOID AGAINST -- AVOIDANCE. THE LEGISLATION ALLOWS FOR THE ADDITION OF FACILITY AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE WORK THAT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE FUNDED BY THE SETTINGS.

I WILL USE THE AMPHITHEATER TO THE WORK BEING DONE OUT THERE. THIS IS THE CASH FLOW PROVIDED FOR THE RFP. YOU HAVE A CONSTRUCTION PERIOD SAVINGS THAT IS SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION.

SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION IS SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 30TH UNDER THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT.

ONCE THE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION IS COMPLETED YOU GO TO THE MEASURE MEANT -- MEASUREMENT AND VERIFICATION PHASE THAT STARTS AFTER THE COMPLETION AND SIGN OFF ON APRIL 30TH. WE WOULD BEGIN MEASURING VERIFICATION AND THE GUARANTEED SAVINGS THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED WOULD GO INTO EFFECT IN YEAR ONE.

YEAR ONE BEING AFTER COMPLETION OF CRICKS.

-- CONSTRUCTION. BACK TO DEFINING WHAT THE SAVINGS ALLOWABLE UNDER THE LEGISLATION ARE, ENERGY SAVINGS WHICH IS REDUCED ENERGY CONSUMPTION FOR ELECTRICITY, GAS AND WATER. REDUCED M AND O REALIZED WITH NEW EQUIPMENT SUCH AS LIGHTING.

LIGHTING AS A 10-YEAR WARRANTY AND OUR HVAC SYSTEMS HAVE AN EXTENDED WARRANTY ON THEM AND THE FACT THAT IT IS NEW EQUIPMENT. ROOFING HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE. YOU NO LONGER HAVE TO FUND ROOFING REPAIRS. THEY ARE AT THE FAIRGROUNDS WITH A NEW ROOF INSTALLATION. THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF OPERATIONAL SAVINGS YOU COULD REALIZE.

CAPITAL COST AVOIDANCE IS THE AVOIDED COST THAT WOULD BE BUDGET -- BUDGETED FOR THE CAPITAL PROJECT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THIS THERE ARE THINGS THAT GENERATE SAVINGS.

THERE IS LIMITED SAVINGS ON THE ITEM THAT'S IS DONE.

CAPITAL COST AVOIDANCE IS THE COST THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THE BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES AS AN EXAMPLE OF WE INCLUDED A SMALL AMOUNT OF REVENUE -- PROJECTED RENTAL INCREASES AT THE FAIRGROUNDS. THAT WAS SET AT A 10% INCREASE.

THOSE ARE THE MAIN COMPONENTS OF THAT.

THAT IS THE INFORMATION I HAVE FOR YOU TODAY.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SINCE WE WILL TAKE THIS UP IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> I GUESS I CAN ASK SOME QUESTION THAT'S ARE NOT EXECUTIVE. I HAVE SOME LEGAL, BUT HAVE I -- BUT I HAVE SOME FOR DALE.

I AM CONFUSED ON THIS, DALE, IN REGARDS TO THE WAY THIS LOOKS WE ARE GONNA BE REALIZING THIS 1.775 IN YEAR ONE. I KNOW WE ARE IN YEAR ZERO

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NOW, BUT IN YEAR ONE. PART IS THIS CAPITAL AVOIDANCE.

HOW IS THAT REALLY A SAVINGS WHEN WE ARE SPENDING $1.5 MILLION A YEAR IF DEBT SERVICE TO PAY FOR THIS AND -- I GUESS I'LL ASK IT THIS WAY. HOW IS THIS AN ANNUAL LIESED

CAPITAL AVOIDANCE. >> I HAVE TO APPLY THIS AS A BUDGET ITEM TO REPAIR -- ARE YOU REPLACING THE CHILLERS OR THE WATER COOLERS AND THERE IS A $3 MILLION, $4 MILLION ISSUE AND WE DON'T APPROPRIATE THIS CAPITAL EXPENSE AND WE PUT IT ON THE CIP AND THERE IS ANOTHER TYPE OF FINANCE TO DO

THIS. >> WITH THE REPLACEMENT INFORMATION AND THE COSTS YOU DON'T HAVE TO REPAIR OR REPLACE THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER ANOTHER BUILDING AND ANOTHER ITEM THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO THEN CONSIDER, BUT FOR THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS CONTRACT YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT FOR CAPITAL EXPENDITURES FOR AN

EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. >> ARE YOU SAYING THERE IS AN ANNUAL CAPITAL AVOIDANCE THAT YOU ARE SEEING HERE OR NOT?

>> NO. >> THERE'S NOT?

>> WE NORMALLY DO NOT APPROPRIATE THE CAPITAL EXPENSE. IT IS NOT NEEDED TO BE REQUIRED IN ADDITION TO THE CIP.

THERE IS A COST SAVINGS THERE.

>> AND THE ANNUAL INCREASED REVENUE, THAT'S A PROJECTION, AND THAT'S A HOPEFULLY BECAUSE WE ARE MAKING IT PRETTIER AND

NICER THAT PEOPLE WILL COME? >> WELL, TWHAFER REVENUE THEY ARE TALKING -- WELL, WHATEVER REVENUE THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, WE DON'T SEE A DIME OF IT.

WE DON'T SEE ANY OF IT. >> SO WE WILL NOT SEE ANY OF

IT EITHER. >> IT GOES TO THE --

[INAUDIBLE]. >> AND THEN ON THE ANNUAL OPERATIONAL SAVINGS AND THE UTILITY SAVINGS, THOSE ARE PROJECTIONS BASED ON WHAT IN YOUR OPINION AS YOU LOOK

THROUGH THIS? >> THEY ARE DOING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK TO REPLACE LED LIGHTING AND TO CAUSE SOME SAVINGS THERE. SIMILAR TO THE REVENUE SIDE IT GOES THROUGH THEIR SPECTRUM AND WE DID NOT SEE ANY BILLS FOR THE UTILITIES. THEY WILL SEE THE SAVINGS AND NOT THE COUNTY. WE HAVE TO CONSIDER HOW MUCH OF THAT -- WE DEFINITELY WILL SEE MONEY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE COURTHOUSE. THE ENERGY FOR THE GROUNDS WE WILL NOT SEE THAT. I AM TRYING TO SEE WHERE THE SAVINGS ARE TO THE COUNTY. OWE -- I KNOW IN THIS CONTRACT THERE IS A GUARANTEED OFFSET AND I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT, BUT YOU AND I VISITED ABOUT IT LAST WEEK AND I THINK YOU SAID IT WAS ON PAGE 34 AND YOU READ TO ME THAT THERE WAS A POTENTIAL OFFSET IS GUARANTEED AND THAT'S HOW YOU READ IT.

>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE OPERATIONAL SAVINGS THEY ARE $645,434 WHICH IS THE AMOUNT I PRESENTED TO YOU.

GO TO THE GENERAL FUND. WHEN I LOOK AT THIS AND WONDER NOW IN RETROSPECT WHY WE DID IT THIS WAY.

I TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY IF I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT RIGHT.

I AM GOING BACK TO LOOK AT THE PRESENTATION.

I WILL GO BACK AND LOOK AT EVERYTHING.

I DON'T HAVE IT YET. I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE

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ACTION -- MAYBE I AM NOT UNDERSTANDING IT RIGHT, BUT TO ME IT IS REPRESENTING THAT WE WOULD HAVE A LOT OF COST SAVINGS THAT WOULD OFFSET THIS BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE NEVER HAD I NOT EITHER A MADE A MISTAKE AND READ IT RIGHT OR BEEN PRESENTED THE CORRECT WAY, I NEVER WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR SOMETHING THAT PUT $1.5 MILLION OF NEW DEBT SERVICE IN THE GENERAL FUND. WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN YEARS. WE HAVE BEEN DOING CO'S FOR THAT VERY REASON. I WILL TELL YOU THAT I SIT HERE TODAY FEELING ALT -- A LITTLE -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT WORD S BETRAYED, AND ACCEPTING MY LEVEL OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT, BUT I FEEL A LITTLE BETRAYED BY THIS BECAUSE TO SAY THERE IS ANYWAY I CAN SEE US HAVING THE 1.5 MILLION EVERY YEAR PUT INTO OUR BUDGET FOR THE NEXT 20 OR WHATEVER WE COMMITTED FOR WE HAVE NO INTEREST IN CONTINUING WITH IN THE WAY WE ARE DOING IT.

UNLESS SOMEONE CAN TELL ME, DALE, AND I AM LOOKING AT YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE THE AUDITOR. I AM ASKING THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE YOU'RE THE EXPERT ON ALL THIS AND I AM NOT ASKING YOU BECAUSE I THINK YOU'VE DONE ANYTHING WRONG.

I'M JUST ASKING YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE THE ONE THAT HAS THE ANSWERS. NO OFFENSE TO EVERYONE ELSE IN

THE ROOM -- >> WHO HAS A VESTED INTEREST?

>> NOT ANYBODY UP HERE. >> I CORRECT MYSELF.

I CORRECTED MYSELF. I APOLOGIZE.

AVM HAS THE -- HAS A VESTED IN THE ANSWERED QUESTIONS.

IT IS A LITTLE OFFENSIVE AND I DON'T CARE AT THIS POINT.

I AM TRYING TO BE NICE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I AM REALLY BOTHERED. I NEED TO KNOW WHERE YOU SEE IF ANYTHING HOW THIS IS GONNA WORK FINANCIALLY FOR US OTHER THAN US HAVING TO LOOK AT THIS THE NEXT 16 YEARS AS A GENERAL FUND HIT WITH MAYBE OFFSETS AND MAYBE TOTALS -- TOTALING 645 AND MAYBE THERE SIN CREASED REVENUE.

IT IS NOT GOING TO IMPACT US. IT WILL GO THROUGH THE SPECTRUM SIDE. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT IT OPERATES AT A LOSS. IT MAY BE OPERATING AT A LITTLE LESS OF A LOSS IF WE GET NEW REVENUES AND IT MIGHT HELP THE GENERAL FUND, BUT I'M NOT SEEING HOW WE CAN EVER DO A BUDGET AND PUT IN -- I MEAN THAT'S A GUARANTEED TAX INCREASE EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT 20.

IF I MADE A MISTAKE ON THIS, I WILL STAND UP AND SAY I MADE

A MISTAKE IN SUPPORTING THIS. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YOU MADE THE MOTION. YOU MADE THE MOTION TO --

>> I JUST SAID THAT, JUDGE. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YOU MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE WHERE THE FINANCES WAS -- THE FINANCING WAS VERY, VERY REASONABLE, UNDER 2%.

AND THEY WERE FINANCING A PAYMENT SCHEDULE THAT INCLUDES THE 1.5 MILLION AND FIND YOU -- AND MIND YOU IT IS ALL

HAPPENING -- >> IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WITH AN OFFSET, JUDGE. I HAVEN'T SEEN THE VIDEO, BUT I BELIEVE THE PRESENTATION WAS WE ARE GETTING SO MUCH OFFSET OF THIS THAT IT WAS GOING TO NOT BE A NET TO US AT 1.5 MILLION. IT WAS GOING TO HAVE A 1.5 MILLION FEE AND HAVE AN OFFSET.

ONE WOULD ARGUE OF 1.7 MILLION ACCORDING TO THIS SHEET IN FRONT OF US. IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN THAT WAS A NO-BRAINER. NOW WHAT I'M FINDING IS THAT'S NOT THE CASE. IT IS NOWHERE NEAR THE CASE.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I DON'T THINK SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION HAS OCCURRED. I THINK EVERYTHING IS

SPECULATIVE AT THIS POINT -- >> JUDGE I AM ASKING DALE, IF

YOU DON'T MIND. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I THINK IT IS FINE TO ASK DALE. BUT I THINK SHOULD YOU GIVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING BACK TO YOU AFTER THOROUGH --

>> NO, JUDGE, I TALKED TO DALE LAST WEEK.

I HAD A LONG CONVERSATION WITH HIM AND SAID THIS IS WHAT I AM ASKING ON MONDAY. IF YOU NEED MORE TIME TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS, WELL TESTIMONY -- WELL TELL ME AND

I WILL WAIT. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I

DIDN'T KNOW THAT. >> I HAD A LONG CONVERSATION WITH DALE. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS, WELL THEN YOU CAN SAY WE WILL BRING IT BACK ANOTHER TIME AND I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT TOO. DO YOU SEE ANY ANYWAY, SHAPE OR FORM THAT THIS WILL BE A 1.77456 TOTAL CAP CAL SAVINGS TO THE -- CAPITAL SAVINGS TO THE GENERAL FUND? DO YOU SEE ANYWHERE IN YEAR 1, 2, 3 AND 4 THAT IT WOULD BE

NEAR THIS? >> SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE NEAR A MILLION IN CAPITAL AVOIDANCE THEN I WOULD

SAY NO. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THE LEGAL QUESTIONS I WILL ASK. >> HAVE I A COUPLE OF QUESTION -- I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

IN ADDITION TO WHAT SPECTRUM MIGHT BE MAKING WE GIVE THEM

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100,000 A YEAR? >> WE BUDGET THAT AMOUNT AND IT DEPENDS ON THE GAINS AND LOSSES AND THAT GOES THROUGH COMMISSIONER'S COURT ADMINISTRATION.

THEY LOOK THAT OVER TIGHTLY AND THE LAST PHO YEARS IT HAS BEEN -- THE LAST FEW YEARS IT HAS BEEN 300,000 TO 500,000.

IT HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT FUNDS AND IT IS THE BUDGET WE HAD TO COVER CONTINGENCY THEY MIGHT HAVE.

THEY ARE EXPECTING A POSSIBLE REVENUE.

WHAT THEY ARE INSTALLING WILL BE SEEN AND THEIR SPEC -- EXPECTED REVENUE IS LESS AND WE MAY HAVE TO BUDGET THE TRANSFER SHOULD IT BE NEEDED SPH.

>> WE STILL PAY FOR EVERYTHING WE USE IN ADDITION TO THE

$800,000. >> CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG,

BUT LOOKING AT 141 -- >> THE OTHER QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE PROJECTED CAUSE OF THE THEATER?

DO WE KNOW THAT? >> I WILL HAVE TO GET THAT NUMBER, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

I DON'T KNOW THAT NUMBER OFFHAND.

I CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU AND BE GLAD TO DO THAT, BUT I

DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER TODAY. >> I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT.

>> DID WE APPROVE THAT ONE? I DON'T REMEMBER THAT ONE.

I APOLOGIZE. THAT'S THE OTHER QUESTION.

>> I'M SORRY? >> DID WE APPROVE THE AMPHITHEATER AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION?

>> YES, SIR. IT WAS PART OF THE SCOPE IN THE CONTRACT. I WENT THROUGH THE SCOPE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I HAVE.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WE WILL DISCUSS IT FURTHER ALL THE LEGAL QUESTIONS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I ASK THAT YOU MAY STICK AROUND OR BE CLOSE BY IN CASE THERE IS A QUESTION THAT YOU CAN ANSWER.

AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK -- I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY PUT

IT ON AGAIN, TINER. >> IT IS ONLY A PRESENTATION TODAY, JUDGE. I ASKED FOR IT TO BE ON.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YOU CAN PUT ON AGAIN SO WE CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY -- LIKE ANYTHING WHEN YOU HAVE ONE SIDE OF THE STORY AND NOT THE OTHER SIDE, THERE WAS A THIRD-PARTY ENTITY THAT REVIEWED THE ENERGY SAVINGS.

WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

LET ME JUST SAY THAT WHETHER IT IS ROOVES OR BOILERS OR AIR HANDLERS FOR THE JAIL AND THE ANNEX, HVAC, TRANSFORMERS OR ANYTHING OF THE LIKE, WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH AND WHAT THIS COURT VOTE -- VOTED AND VETTED THOROUGHLY AND WHAT PUBLIC WORKS BROUGHT TO US TOOK A YEAR AND A HALF.

THE IDEA THAT THIS WASN'T THOROUGHLY VETTED IS NOT THE CASE. WE MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF HOW YOU ARE GOING TO -- WHAT YOU WILL REALIZE.

MAKE NO MISTAKE. YOU ARE PAYING FOR WORK THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AND NEED ED -- NEEDED.

AND YOU ARE FINANCING IT THROUGH AN ENERGY SAVINGS PERFORMANCE CONTRACT. WHETHER YOU PAY IT ON THE DEBT SIDE OR THE G -- WHEN YOU ADD M AND O AND I IN, S YOU GET YOUR TAX RATE. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT IS ON ONE SIDE OF THE OIN OR THE OTHER.

>> I DISAGREE. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IT ADDS UP TO THE TAX RATE AND YOU ONLY HAD SO MUCH YOU COULD GIVE ON THAT TAX RATE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS WHEN IT WENT DOWN. AND THE OTHER THING THAT WENT DOWN WAS THIS COURTHOUSE AND THE JAIL AND THE COUNTY FACILITIES ON THE MAINTENANCE.

WE'RE PAYING THE PIPER NOW, BUT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STRUCTURE IT IN KEEPING THE TACK RATE LOWER THAN -- THE TAX RATE LOWER THAN IT WAS. AND THAT'S WHAT THE STORY IS.

IF YOU REMEMBER THIS WAS A WAY TO NOT JUST STRAIGHT UP GET YOUR FINANCING, BUT TO GET IT AT HISTORICALLY LOW INTEREST RATES AND GOT SOME ENERGY SAVINGS, THIS COURT THOUGHT THAT WAS A WIN. YOU ABSTAINED, BUT WHEN WE CAME TO THE ACTUAL FINANCING OF THE PLAN, THESE QUESTIONS WERE ASKED WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD AFFORD IT, BUT WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS A GOOD FINANCING MECHANISM.

YOU MADE THE MOTION AND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ SECONDED

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IT. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO GO

BACK. >> I AM AWARE --

>> NOT SAYING WE DIDN'T, JUDGE, BUT SAYING, AGAIN, I LOOKED AT DIFFERENTLY. I MIGHT ASK DIFFERENT QUESTIONS NOW AND GET DIFFERENT ANSWERS ABOUT THE THEATER. I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS PART OF THE PACKAGE. MAYBE IT WAS.

I VOTED FOR IT AND I AM IN THE GROUP THAT VOTED FOR T BUT I FEEL WE CAN CHANGE SOMETHING NOW WE CAN.

I HOPE. THE THEATER IS NOT GOING TO GIVE US A SAVING, THERE IS NOT A NEED.

IT IS PROBABLY A WANT. THERE IS NOTHING THAT SAYS WE

CAN'T GO BACK AND LOOK AT. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THAT'S

A CONTRACT THAT BE HONOR. >> THAT'S A LEGAL QUESTION AND WE WILL FIND OUT IF THERE IS A CONTRACT THAT IS BINDING AND WE WILL GET THAT IN LEGAL. WHETHER WE DO OR DON'T TOSS

ARE THE QUESTIONS WE ASK. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I I WOULD ASK KNOWING THAT IS THE QUESTION TO GET YOUR LAWYERS ON CALL AND ON NOTICE BASED ON THAT COMMENT ALONE.

>> FEEL FREE. ANYWAY, I THINK AT THIS POINT

-- >> CAN I FINISH --

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I WILL.

GIVE ME ONE MOMENT. WHAT I WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WE ARE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DEAL WITH LEGAL ASPECTS OF THIS CONTRACT.

WHAT I WAS ASKING TINER TO DO IS MAKE SURE WE HAVE A CHANCE TO BRING IT BACK NEXT COURT SO THAT WE WILL HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THE FINANCIAL POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES AS YOU SEE FIT. BUT I WILL SAY THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO MAYBE GET THE COURT'S MINUTES.

WE CAN LOOK THAT UP. THAT'S THE GREATEST THING ABOUT HAVING THE MINUTES. I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT WE ARE BRINGING THIS UP AND THESE FOLKS ARE IN THE PROCESS OF THEIR CONTRACT.

THEY THEY HAVEN'T SUB COMPLETED IT AND THEY ARE NOT SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 30TH. THE BUYER'S REMORSE IS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FIT NICE AND NEATLY INTO SOMETHING I THINK YOU HAD A PERCEPTION OF. AND THAT'S IMPORTANT TO PLACE ON THE RECORD. WE DID NOT WANT TO SAY WE DID NOT HAVE A DISCUSSION OR THOROUGH DISCUSSION AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS QUA -- ASKING TINER TO DO.

WHEN I STARTED MY COMMENTS IF I MADE A MISTAKE ON THIS I SAY I MADE A MISTAKE. BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT IT TO APPEAR I WAS PRESIDENT TRYING TO -- I WASN'T TRYING TO HELP OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY I ABSTAINED.

I HAD THAT DISCUSSION SO I KNEW THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO. IT DIDN'T HAPPEN TO ANYBODY ELSE AND DIDN'T VIOLATE ANY OPEN MEETINGS ACT THERE WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED. IT WAS PRESENTED TO ME AND I TOOK IT AS IF THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OFFSETS. THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT THE FINANCING MECHANISM WE PASSED WAS AS GOOD AS IT CAN BE.

THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE DONE PART OF THE CO OR THE GENERAL FUND IN MY MIND. I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY PROBLEM IN GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT THINGS AND IF THE COURT CONTINUES TO BELIEVE WE DID, THAT'S GREAT.

I CAN LIVE WITH BEING IN THE MINORITY IN THAT.

I'M IN THE MINORITY WITH LOTS OF THINGS.

THAT'S OKAY. I AM THOUGHT OKAY WITH NOT BRINGING UP POINTS AND BEING TRANSPARENT AND OPEN AND HONEST, AS YOU SAID AND TRANSPARENTLY, OPENLY AND HONESTLY I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS CONTRACT.

I AM CONCERNED THAT WE PUT IT IN THE GENERAL FUND WHEN IN FACT WE COULD HAVE PUT IT IN CO'S AND PUT THEM IN CO'S AND REPRIORITIZED THE OTHER THINGS AND IT WOULD NOT HAVE UH TECHED IT THE -- AFFECTED THE GENERAL FUND.

IT MAY HAVE MEANT WE REPRIORITIZED THE PROJECT.

IF I MISSED OUT ON THAT, I WILL BE MAN ENOUGH TO STAND UP AND SAY, MY BAD PRESIDENT BUT I'M NOT GOING TO PERPETUATE ON MY BAD BY NOT LOOK -- LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY AND I AM NOT SURE IF THIS IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY AND I AM TO THE ASHAMED ABOUT THAT. YOU CAN TRY TO SAME ME ALL YOU WANT, JUDGE, SAYING WE HAVE A CONTRACT AND SO FORTH AND SO ON. THINGS CHANGE.

THINGS HAVE CHANGED DRAMATICALLY IN THIS COMMUNITY AND WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT WE WANT AND WHETHER ALL OF THESE THINGS NEED TO BE DONE IN THE MANNER WE ARE DOING THEM IS SIMPLY WHAT I AM GOING TO LOOK AT AND I MADE NO APOLOGY FOR THAT NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY OR WHAT YOU IMPLY ABOUT DOING

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IT. THERE IS NO WAY IN THIS WORLD I BELIEVE WE WILL SEE AN ANNUAL CAPITAL UH -- AVOIDANCE OF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR THAT WAS PART OF THE PROPOSAL AND I BELIEVE PART OF WHY THIS COURT SUPPORTED IT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THIS NUMBER LOOKED AS THOUGH WE COULD COVER OUR DEBT SERVICE. I DIDN'T READ IT ALL AND I AM NOT SAYING WE. I SAY I.

I WILL ADMIT IT, BUT NOT PERPETUATE IT BY BEING ASHAMED TO ADMIT IT. THAT'S WHERE I AM COMING FROM,

JUDGE. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION. I WANT TO CORRECT THE RECORD THOUGH ON ONE THING. WE DID PUT ALMOST $9 MILLION OF OUR CO FUNDS TOWARD THIS CONTRACT.

>> YES, WE DID. ALMOST 10 ACTUALLY.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT, BUT SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE. AND THE OTHER THING IS ENERGY SAVINGS PERFORMANCE CONTRACTS BY STATUTE CANNOT BE ON THE INS SIDE. YOU HAVE TO BE ON THE M AND O SIDE OF WE MADE THAT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR ON OUR DEBT

OVERVIEW. >> I AGREE WITH THAT.

THAT'S ALSO VERY IMPORTANT. THOSE ARE TWO ISSUES.

WE DID ACKNOWLEDGE AND WE COULD HAVE MADE OTHER CHOICES, BUT WE MADE A CONSCIOUS CHOICE TO PUT 9 MILLION TOWARD THIS CONTRACT FOR CO'S AND SO WE DID MAKE THAT INVESTMENT.

AND SO WHEN YOU TRY TO MAKE ENERGY SAVINGS AND TRY TO HELP YOUR COUNTY BY CREATING ENERGY SAVINGS BRINGING DOLLARS BACK IN, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO GO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE. YOU HAVE TO GO ON THE M AND O SIDE. I THINK THOSE ARE TWO THINGS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT. I THINK WE SHOULD WORK HARD IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS TO WORK WITH UVAM TO BRING IT FORWARD ON THESE UTILITY SAVINGS. ONE THING IS FOR CERTAIN.

TYPICALLY WHEN YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THE EQUIPMENT AND THE PROCESS THAT YOU ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT. IN THIS CASE YOU ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT CAPITAL AVOIDANCE AND MAINTENANCE, BUT HAVE YOU NOT ALLOWED THE CONTRACT TO BEGIN.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MAKING MISTAKES, IT'S OKAY IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU MADE ONE, BUT WHAT IS NOT OKAY IS TO SAY I WILL BREAK A $23 MILLION CONTRACT BECAUSE GUESS WHAT YOU OWE? $23MILLION.

>> THAT'S LEGAL AND I DON'T THINK -- NO, JUDGE.

I I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS -- THAT'S LIABILITY.

>> THAT'S NOT A TRUE STATEMENT. THAT'S MY LEGAL OPINION.

>> THAT'S YOUR LEGAL OPINION. WE WILL HEAR FROM THE ATTORNEY

-- >> I WILL ASK LEGAL OPINIONS

BE KEPT -- >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YOUR LEGAL OPINION CAN BE KEPT IN HERE.

>> AND THIS IS RECORDED FOR USE AGAINST THE COUNTY AT A

LATER DATE. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WELL,

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS. >> JUDGE, THAT'S WHY WE ARE GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. YOU LIKE TO THROW OUT STUFF THAT INFLAMES IT. I DON'T THINK WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS TRUE AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WILL GIVE US A DIFFERENT OPINION AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THAT IN A

CLOSED SESSION. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THAT YOU KNOW THAT ALREADY IS ALSO A LEGAL OPINION SO LET'S STOP AND MOVE ON. IF YOU MADE A CONCLUSION AND

WE HAVE MADE CONCLUSIONS -- >> I ASKED THE COUNTY ATTORNEY

TO DO THE RESEARCH. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THE PROBLEM IS IT DOES PRESIDENT -- DOESN'T FIT NICE AND NEAT IN YOUR EFFECTIVE RATE STANCE.

>> IS IT FITTING TO YOUR -- >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: MY STANCE IS TO BE THE LOWEST PASS RATE.

>> IT IS TO SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I WANT THE LOWEST TAX RATE WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE DONE THAT TWO YEARS IN A ROW.

WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS JUSTIFY SOMETHING YOU SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT UP IF YOU FELT THIS WAY.

THIS EXACT CHART -- I DO WANT TO ASK MIKE THAT.

THIS EXACT CHART -- >> I ADMITTED THAT.

EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU ADMITTED YOU MADE A MISTAKE AND OWN IT. I DON'T KNOW IF I MADE A MISTAKE. I AM TRYING TO GET TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. THAT'S WHY I WANT TO DO IT IS TO FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT IT IS A MISTAKE.

I CAN'T EVEN GET THERE WITHOUT YOU --

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YOU CAN'T GET THERE BECAUSE THE EQUIPMENT HASN'T EVEN BEEN INSTALLED.

>> I CAN'T GET JENNY'S OPINION ON THING BEFORE I KNOW WHERE WE STAND WHICH CITY WANTED TO DO FIRST.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YOU HAVE TO HAVE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION. THE PURPOSE OF TODAY IS TO SHOWCASE YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE.

IF THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE EQUIPMENT OR A PROBLEM WITH GETTING THE SAVINGS, WE'LL BE THE FIRST ONES TO AGREE THAT THAT IS NOT A GOOD THING. YOU HAVEN'T EVEN GIVEN THEM THE CHANCE TO FINISH -- TODAY WAS A PRESENTATION TO SHOWCASE WHERE WE ARE. YOU WANT TO SAY THIS CONTRACT IS NOT GOOD WITHOUT THEM INSTALLING ALL OF THE THINGS

THEY HAVE PROMISED TO DO. >> JUDGE, I WANT TO KNOW HOW IN THE WORLD WE ARE GOING TO AVOID A MILLION IN CAPITAL WHICH IS WHAT THEY PRESENTED WHEN THE AUDITOR SAYS WE NEVER DO IT. I WANT TO KNOW HOW WE WILL SEE INCREASED REVENUE WHICH WHICH WAS PRESENTED.

I WANT TO KNOW HOW IT WILL BE 1.775464 IN SAVINGS OF CAPITAL WHICH IS WHAT WAS PRESENTED AND THAT HAS NOT BEEN SHOWN.

I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO BRING IT BACK AND LET SOMEONE

SHOW ME. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: LET'S DO THAT. LET'S -- THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO FIND AGREEMENT. THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO FIND

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AGREEMENT IS TO BRING IT BACK AND TO TRY AND FIND THE SUBSTANCE. WHAT I'M SAYING IS I WANT THIS COURT TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BEFORE -- CONVERSATIONS BEFORE AND BRINGING THEM UP AGAIN IS UNUSUAL BEGIN THAT YOU HAVEN'T BEGIN THEM A CHANCE TO COMPLETE THEIR WORK THAT YOU HIRED THEM TO DO.

>> IT IS GOOD GOVERNMENT. IT IS GOING -- DOING SOMETHING -- WHEN YOU FIND SOMETHING YOU MAY HAVE MADE A MISTAKE ON OR I MADE A MISTAKE O IT IS GOOD GOVERNMENT TO BE TRANSPARENT AND BRING IT BACK UP FOR DISCUSSION OF WHICH THAT IS WHAT I HAVE DONE. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH WHAT I HAVE DONE. I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE IT.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT AT

ALL. >> HAVE I -- I HAVE NOT MADE A CONCLUSION. I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW

THIS WILL WORK. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO HELP ADDRESS THE UTILITY SAVINGS WERE DONE BY A THIRD PARTY, IS THAT CORRECT? CAN YOU IDENTIFY -- LET'S GO THROUGH EACH OF THEM -- NOT GO THROUGH THEM, BUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS HAVE YOU PROVIDE SOME DOCUMENTATION AS TO HOW WE ARRIVED AT THOSE NUMBERS AND I WILL ASK ALSO FOR DOCUMENTATION OF WHETHER YOU DISCUSSED THAT WITH THIS COURT AND I WILL ASK YOU AT A LATER DATE WHETHER YOU DISCUSSED THAT WITH PUBLIC WORKS. THE POLICY MAKERS ARE SITTING IN FRONT OF YOU. I REMEMBER ASKING WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD UH FOR THIS -- WE COULD AFFORD THIS AND THE ANSWER WAS GIVEN WE COULD. IT REQUIRED CERTAIN THINGS OF US WHICH WE PERFORMED. THE $9 MILLION WAS ONE OF THEM. IN OTHER WORDS IT REQUIRED OUR PAYMENTS TO KEEP AT THE MINIMUM IT REQUIREY US -- REQUIRED US TO MAKE THE CAPITAL CONTRIBUTIONS.

GO UH HE -- GO AHEAD, MIKE. >> IT OUTLINES THE SCOPE OF WHAT IS TO BE DELIVERED. THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE COURT FOR APPROVAL. AT THE SAME TIME THERE WAS A SECOND CONTRACT THAT WAS PRESENTED WHICH IS THE ENERGY SAVINGS CONTRACT. AND IT GOES THROUGH SUCCESS -- SPECIFICALLY HOW ALL OF THE SAVINGS ARE CALCULATED AND HOW THEY ARE GUARANTEED AND HOW THE BASELINE IS TO RIDE.

IT WAS THAT SECOND CONTRACT REVIEWED BY THE THIRD PARTY ENGINEER TO VERIFY THE CAL LAYINGS -- CALCULATIONS WERE DONE CORRECTLY. AS FAR AS THE ENERGY SAVINGS THAT IS THE PROCESS THAT WAS USED FOR THE ENERGY SAVINGS.

REMIND US WHO THE THIRD PARTY WAS AND WE WERE GIVEN A COPY

OF THE REPORT? >> YES.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: SO WE USED THAT TO RELY UPON?

>> IT WAS SILBER -- >> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: SO WE WILL GO OVER THAT, THE SILBER AND ASSOCIATES AND WE HILLARY FRESH EVERYONE'S -- WE WILL REFRESH EVERYONE'S MEMORY AND THEN COME BACK AND HAVE THIS

DISCUSSION AGAIN. >> JUDGE, I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT I WAS NOT A MEMBER OF THIS COURT WHEN THIS

TRANSPIRED. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: NOTED.

ALL RIGHT. IT IS -- GOSH, IT IS ALREADY 12:30. KARA, I'M GOING TO DO YOURS FIRST BECAUSE YOURS IS ONE AFTER ANOTHER.

AND THEN THAT WAY I CAN TAKE A RECESS AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK AND DO THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT.

>> IS THAT NUMBER 4 IN EXECUTIVE SESSION?

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE -- AS THE PRESIDING OFFICER I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME OVERVIEW, OTHERWISE YOU GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH NO BACKGROUND. THEY CAN ALSO BY FOR INDICATE IT. BIFORCATE IT.

>> I DON'T REMEMBER WHY THAT WAS GOING TO LEGAL.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THE IDEA IS THAT IF YOU HAVE A LEGAL MATTER, WE CAN DISCUSS IT IN EXECUTIVE, BUT WE OWE THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AS MANY THINGS IN OPEN SESSION AS POSSIBLE. THAT IS -- WE TALK ABOUT GOOD

GOVERNMENT, HAVE IT OPEN. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY LEGAL

QUESTIONS ON ARPA FUNDS. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: DO YOU HAVE LEGAL QUESTIONS MR. GONZALEZ?

MR. HERNANDEZ? >> NO.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: DO YOU HAVE LEGAL QUESTIONS ON ARPA? IT IS NOTICED AND WE CAN ALWAYS GO THERE IF WE NEED IT AFTER THE PRESENTATION.

[5. Discuss and consider establishing the early voting polling locations for the state constitutional amendment election on November 2, 2021.]

MEANWHILE, LET'S GO TO KARA AND YOU HAVE A FEW ITEMS TO TALK TO US ABOUT AND ALL OF THEM HAVE TO DO WITH THE CONSTITUTION ALI ELECTION. I WILL LET YOU TAKE OVER ON

NUMBER 5. >> NUMBER 5, THANK YOU.

WE HAVE THE UPCOMING CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT ELECTION AND THAT WILL BE HELD . THAT'S THIS YEAR.

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RIGHT NOW NUMBER 5 IS THE EARLY VOTING POLLING LOCATIONS. THEY ARE THE SAME WE HAVE USED IN 2017 AND 2019 EXCEPT FOR THE VALENCIA.

THE VALENCIA, WE CANNOT USE THEM FOR EARLY VOTING.

WE ARE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER LOCATION IN THAT AREA.

WE MADE SOME CALLS AND WAITING TO HEAR BACK.

WE ARE WAITING TO HEAR BACK, BUT IT IS DIFFICULT WITH THE NUMBERS GOING UP WITH THE DELTA VARIANT.

ANOTHER LOCATION WILL BE LOOKED FOR.

>> THAT'S THIS ONE? >> CORRECT.

>> IF YOU APPROVE THOSE LOCATIONS AND THEN GIVE ME THE LEEWAY TO ADD ANOTHER -- IF WE CAN FIND ONE WHERE THE VALENCIA IS. THE NEXT ONE I ADDED.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE --

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WAIT A SECOND.

GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR MOTION.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE EARLY VOTING SITES GIVING THE COUNTY CLERK THE FLEXIBILITY TO ADD ANOTHER VOTING LOCATION IN THE VALENCIA AREA AND PETRONELIA.

>> IT IS ON HERE. >> THAT'S MY MOTION, JUDGE.

>> SECOND. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: AND SO JUST TO MAKE SURE AND I'M SORRY I HAD TO STEP OUT TO GET THAT EMERGENCY MESSAGE, BUT DID YOU SAY THAT YOU HAD ALREADY VETTED THESE WITH THE PARTIES.

>> YES. I WORKED WITH THE PARTIES AND

WE GAY -- WE AGREED. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IT IS GOOD TO SAY THAT SO PEOPLE KNOW.

WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? >> PETRONELIA IS THE NEXT

ITEM. >> FOR EARLY VOTING IS THERE

ANYTHING IN PLACE FOR -- >> WE HAVE ROBS TOWN -- ROBSTOWN, BUT THIS IS ELECTION DAY.

THIS IS CONSTITUTIONAL AND IT IS A LOW TURNOUT.

>> UNFORTUNATELY. IF WE CAN ADD ON ON ELECTION

DAY -- >> IT IS ON THE SECOND PAGE.

>> THE COMMUNITY CENTER. >> IT IS NOT EARLY FOR THE

ELECTION DAY. >> I'M FINE WITH THAT.

THANK YOU. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE REACH OUT TO MAYOR HOWARD AND TO THE NEW SUPERINTENDENT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE CUFFED ON ELECTION -- COVERED ON ELECTION DAY PRESIDENT.

>> WE TALKED TO THEM. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: JUST TO LET THEM KNOW REGARDING THE EARLY VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. SO IF EVERYBODY -- HAVING HEARD THAT BOTH PARTIES HAVE AGREED AND HAVING YOU ALL LOOK AT IT, I HAVE A MOTION. WAS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. LL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

>> I. OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

[6. Discuss and consider approval of election day vote centers for the state constitutional amendment election on November 2, 2021.]

KARA, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEXT ITEM IS THE ELECTION DAY VOTE CENTERS. FROM WHAT WAS POSTED WE ARE RECOMMENDING A FEW CHANGES. I HAVE GIVEN Y'ALL THE UPDATED LIST. WHAT YOU WILL NOTE, THERE IS ACTUALLY 52 LOCATIONS INSTEAD OF 50.

SO THE TWO LOCATIONS BEING ADDED AS VOTE CENTERS ON ELECTION DAY ARE PETRONELIA AND COLBA ELEMENTARY AND RECOMMENDING CHANGING MCGEE TO MCCAL 11 -- MCCAL 11 ISLAND ISD. THE ENTIRE LIST IS ON THE

PLANNER HANDED OUT. >> DID YOU MENTION -- I DON'T WANT TO -- WHAT WAS THE MAIN REASON?

>> VALENCIA HAS BEEN GREAT. THEY ACCOMMODATED US OVER THE YEARS AND WE ARE GRATEFUL THEY DON'T CHARGE US.

I THINK BUSINESSES HAVE TRYING TO GET REESTABLISHED AND THEY ARE DOING US A FAVOR. THEY ARE ON THIS FOR ELECTION

DAY. >> I AM JUST THINKING IN NEXT YEAR'S ELECTION, BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT IS A LOW TURNOUT PRESIDENT HOPEFULLY THEY BLOCK OFF TIME

TO ENSURE -- >> I TALKED WITH THEM ABOUT

THAT. >> MOTION TO PASS.

MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY

SAYING I. >> I.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: AND NOW I HAVE THE APPOINTMENT OF ELECTION JUDGES AND APPORTION MEANT OF ELECTION JUDGES

NUMBER 8. >> WAS THAT ONE 6?

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: AM I WRONG ON THE NUMBER?

>> YEAH. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: SORRY

, MY BAD. >> 7 NOW?

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>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: SORRY. YOU'RE RIGHT.

I'M AHEAD OF MYSELF. GO AHEAD AND DO THE ORDER.

[7. Discuss and consider adoption of Order of Special Election for the state constitutional amendment election on November 2, 2021.]

>> YEAH. I PASSED THAT OUT EARLIER.

IN COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTY CLERK WE DID THE ORDER.

ONCE APPROVED WE WILL PUBLISH THIS IN THE NEWSPAPER.

>> MOTION TO ADOPT. >> SECOND.

MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY

SAYING I. >> I.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: NOW WE HAVE DONE 5, 6 AND 7 AND

NOW WE GO TO 8. >> THE PARTIES HAVE PROVIDED

[8. Discuss and consider appointment of election judges and apportionment of election judges for voting centers per commissioner precinct pursuant to Section 32.002 of the Texas Election Code.]

THEIR ELECTION LIST. THE LAW SAYS WE DO THIS IN AUGUST AND SO WE ARE HOPING THE COURT WILL APPROVE THE ELECTION JUDGES ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM.

I DON'T HAVE INFORMATION ON APPORTION -- APPORTION MEANT AT THIS TIME AND WE WILL WORK WITH THE CLERK AND I'LL BRING

THAT BACK LATER. >> THESE WERE SUBMITTED BY THE PARIES AS WELL, I BELIEVE -- PARTIES AS WELL, I BELIEVE?

MOTION TO PASS. >> SECOND.

MOTION AND A SECOND. AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY

BY SAYING I. >> I.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: OKAY. JUST FOR COMPLETENESS, IS THERE -- 9 IS GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

ITEM NUMBER 10 IS THE CONSIDERING OF THE OVERTIME

[10. Discuss and consider approval of overtime pursuant to County policy for essential exempt employees during declared disasters as it relates to COVID-19, and storm preparedness and response; severe weather preparedness and response; in addition, authorize payment of overtime to essential exempt City County Health District Employees.]

PURSUANT TO COUNTY POLICY FOR ESSENTIAL EXEMPT EMPLOYEES AND YOU WILL NOTICE YOU HAVE PAPERWORK HERE THAT IS FOR 9

HOURS -- 9.83 HOURS FOR $452. >> JUDGE, I'M CURIOUS, 9, THE SAME QUESTION YOU RAISED TO BE TRANSPARENT, WHAT ARE WE DOING

IN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON 9? >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IT HAS TO DO WITH COURTROOMS AND THE JUDICIARY.

>> JUST SO PEOPLE -- THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

>> AND SECURITY-TYPE ISSUES. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IT

DOES. >> JUST SO PEOPLE -- THAT'S CORRECT. SECURITY AND COURTROOM ISSUES ON ITEM NUMBER 9 WILL GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 10 IS THE ONE I I JUST MENTIONED AND LOOKING FOR AN AUTHORIZATION PAYMENT REGARDING THIS 9.83 HOURS. HAVE I A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

>> I. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: AND THEN -- IS THIS A TWO-PART OFFER? AND THEN AUTHORIZE PAYMENT OF OVERTIME TO CITY COUNTY HEALTH. DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT?

>> SO MOVED. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: AND I'LL SECOND. AND THEN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR

SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> I.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I HAVE ONE NO.

WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A RECESS.

WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK. SHERIFF, I APOLOGIZE.

I NEED TO DO THIS RESEARCH -- RESEARCH? I NEED TO DO THIS RECESS TO HANDLE ANOTHER EMERGENCY MATTER. I WILL BE BACK -- WE WILL BE BACK -- IF EVERYONE CAN DO A QUICK LUNCH WE CAN TRY TO COME BACK AT 1:00. WE ARE RECESSED AT 12:35.

IS THAT RIGHT? >> TINER, IF YOU CAN HEAR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN HEAR THAT WE ARE GETTING STARTED. I AM OKAY MOVING TO THE BUDGET

[1. Approve Budget Change Order No. 19 for Fiscal Year 2020-2021.]

CHANGE ORDER, NUMBER NIB -- 19.

THAT IS ITEM D1. WE ARE BACK ON THE RECORD FOR THE CLERK AT 1:16 P.M. IF DALE WOULD TAKE US THROUGH THE BUDGET CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 19 THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

THAT'S D1. >> YES, YOUR HONOR.

THERE ARE SEVERAL PAGES IN THIS REPORT AND THE LARGEST ARE SOME OF THE BILLINGS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE. WE ARE COVERING SOME BILLING AND GROUND MAINTENANCE COSTS AND ON PAIMG 3 YOU CAN -- PAGE 3 YOU CAN SEE THE ROAD AND BRIDGE PROJECTS MOVING MONEY AROUND. OLDER EQUIPMENT IS NEEDING EXPENSIVE REPAIRS AS WELL AS WHAT WE ARE DOING FOR THE COASTAL PARKS. THESE FUNDS ARE IN THE PARTICULAR DEPARTMENTS AND AVAILABLE FOR MOVING.

THEY HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE AND SUBMIT BUDGET ORDER 19 FOR

APPROVAL. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I THINK I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

>> I. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THAT SEEMS REASONABLE, DALE. HOW ABOUT NUMBER 2? THAT'S OUR MONTHLY FINANCIALS FOR MAY AND FOUND IN ITEM

[2. Approve Monthly Financial Report for the month of May 2021.]

NUMBER TWO. >> YES, YOUR HONOR.

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I SHOW YOU THE BALANCE SHEETS FOR YOUR GENERAL FOP AND ALL -- FOR YOUR GENERAL FUND AND YOUR OPERATING FUNDS FOR MAY 31ST IS 55 MILLION 979 AND THAT IS ABOUT WHERE WE EXPECTED IT TO BE IN THIS PERIOD OF TIME AND WE EXPECT IT TO BE RIGHT AROUND 26, 27 MILLION AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. WHEN ALL THINGS ARE FINISHED.

THE NEXT ITEM WE GO TO ARE THE HEALTH INSURANCE FUND ON PAGE 10. PAGE 10 IS THE WORKERS COMP AND THE GENERAL LIABILITY AS WELL AS OUR GROUP HEALTH.

GROUP HEALTH IS WHERE WE -- THAT'S OUR CONCERN.

FOR MAY WE HAVE A DEFICIT IN FUND BALANCE WHICH IS 566,441 DEFICIT. DISCOURING THE MONTH OF -- DURING THE MONTH OF MAY WE HAD A MILLION DOLLARS IN MEDICAL CLAIMS. FOR JUNE, JULY AND AUGUST WE HAVE THE SAME BALANCES. RIGHT NOW IN OUR PHYSICIAN RAIL YEAR, WE ARE A MILLION 8 IN THE HOLE.

WE WILL HAVE TO MOVE SOME FUNDS AND YOU WILL SEE THAT ON PAGE 12 AND YOU WILL SEE YOUR CHARTS AND YOU WILL SEE YOUR REVENUE AND SPENGS -- EXPENSE.

THAT'S FOR THE MONTH OF MAY. WE PROVIDE YOU JUNE AND JULY AND AUGUST. OUR REVENUE ON PAGE 16.

FOR OUR REVENUE FOR 16 WE ARE RIGHT NOW AT 88% COLLECTIONS.

OUR TAXES ARE 97% WHICH IS ABOUT WHERE THE TACK ASSESSOR BELIEVES -- THE TAX ASSESSOR BELIEVES THEY WOULD BE.

WE BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE IT IS AND WE DON'T SEE IT GOING UP SIGNIFICANTLY. IT WILL GO UP SLIGHTLY.

WE ARE PROJECTING OUR YEAR-END TOTALS ARE 98%, 97%.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE 85% OR 88%. WE STARTED OUR BUDGET EXPENSE AND WE FIND OUT WHICH ONES ARE POSSIBLY IN A DEFICIT ON EXPENSES AND THERE WEREN'T MANY THIS PARTICULAR MONTH.

THE FIRST ONE IS GOING TO BE ON PAGE 38 AND IT IS OUR LEGAL AID DEPARTMENT WHICH IS OUR NORMAL PROCESS BECAUSE OF HOW WE HAVE TO PAY THE RENTAL PAYMENTS.

THAT'S A GOOD PORTION FOR IT. THE NEXT ONE IS ON PAGE 50.

THAT'S JUST PRECINCT FOUR AT THE TOP.

THE MAJORITY IS BECAUSE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS AND WHY THAT MIGHT BE AN ISSUE IS THEY MIGHT HAVE HAD ONE OF THEIR EMPLOYEES MIGHT HAVE LEFT AND THE NEW PERSON THEY BROUGHT IN OR THEIR REPLACEMENT IS, THE PERSON THAT MIGHT HAVE LEFT EITHER HAD NO INSURANCE OR SINGLE INSURANCE.

THE PERSON THAT CAME IN, CAME IN WITH INSURANCE OR DOING THE FAMILY PROCESS AND WHEN YOU DO THE FAMILY PROCESS IT IS $12,000 MORE THAN THE SINGLE PROCESS WHICH IS WHY THAT COULD HAVE A POSSIBILITY OF IT BEING NEGATIVE.

THE NEXT ITEM ON PAGE 55. CON STALL -- CONSTABLE PRECINCT NUMBER 3. SAME PROCESS.

A FEW EXPENSES BECAUSE OF NEW EMPLOYEES THAT NEEDED TO DO TRAINING FOR THEIR EXPENSES THAT ARE OVER BUDGET AS WELL AS BENEFITS ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.

ON PAGE 57 OUR SENIOR COMMUNITY SERVICES, THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE OUR HOME DELIVERED MEALS, AND AS WE KNOW WHEN WE GO TO THE GROCERY STORE NOW, THE COST FOR THE GROCERIES ARE EXTREMELY HIGH AND THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE OVERAGES ARE FOR THIS PARTICULAR ONE.

YOU CAN SEE THE FOOD AND KITCHEN EXPENSE AND IT IS AROUND 29 AND 30% BALANCE. THAT'S WHY THEY ARE AT A NEGATIVE. PAGE 58 THERE IS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF OVER TIME AND THE OTHER CONTRACTS THEY ARE GOING THROUGH.

THE MOST IMPORTANT PAGE IS PAGE 61.

61 IS OUR TOTAL GENERAL FUND. OUR TOTAL GENERAL FUND FOR THE YEAR IS REMAINING 44.7%. FOR THE MONTH OF MAY, WE ARE FUEL -- TALLLY AT 303 -- ACTUALLY 33.3%.

WE WERE 11.4% ABOVE OUR YEAR-END WHICH IS ABOUT WHERE WE ARE PROJECTING THE TOTAL YEARS TO DO.

THE NEXT ITEM IS ON PAGE 75 AND THAT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE CAPITAL PROJECT FUND. THIS SHOWS A BREAK DOWN ON THE PRECINCTS AND WHAT THE PROJECTS ARE AND WHETHER THEY ARE ON INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY WHICH IS YOUR COMPUTER ISSUES AND THE ROADS AS WELL AS BUILDING FACILITIES.

THE MAIN PORTION WE ALWAYS WANT TO LOOK AT IS ON PAGE 80. THIS SHOWS THE REMAINING FUNDS AND THAT'S REALLY NOT A CONCERN.

2015 AND 3.7 MILLION AND WE NEED TO GET THAT PROCESS

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PAID. THIS HASN'T BEEN SPENT YET AND THEY INCORPORATED THE 2021 NUMBERS IN HERE OF $50 MILLION

AND THAT'S FOR ACCEPTANCE. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS TO BEGIN BEFORE WE GET TO THE

MOTION TO ACCEPT? >> MOTION TO ACCEPT.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HEALTH INSURANCE SO I THINK THE MONTHLY REPORT IS A GOOD PARLAY INTO GETTING TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

ARE YOU SURE THERE IS NO QUESTIONS ABOUT LOSING $1.8 MILLION IN HEALTH? OKAY.

JUST TRYING TO POINT THAT OUT THAT THAT MAY BE SOMETHING YOU

MIGHT WANT TO ASK A QUESTION. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

WE ARE GONNA LOSE OR WE ARE --

>> THE BALANCE IS SHOWING FOR HEALTH INSURANCE WE ARE AT NEGATIVE 1.8 MILLION SO FOR FISCAL YEAR-END WE EXPENDED 1.8 MILLION MORE THAN REVENUE.

>> 1.8 -- >> MILLION.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: MORE THAN REVENUE.

>> AS FAR AS THE HEALTH STATUS AND AS FAR AS THE BUDGET, WHERE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ARE WE 3 MILLION BEHIND?

>> WE ARE OVER BUDGET ON MEDICAL ED AND PRESCRIPTIONS.

>> OVER OR UNDER? >> OVER.

>> IF WE GO THROUGH THE EIGHT MONTHS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, WE ARE OVER AND WE HAVE TO BE YEAR END AND KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE. IF MY ESTIMATIONS ARE CORRECT IN QUORK -- IN WORKING WITH EVERYONE I KNOW WE ARE

2 MILLION IN DEFICIT. >> 2 MILLION IN DEFICIT.

>> AND WE WERE -- WE ALSO LOST MONEY LAST FISCAL YEAR DUE TO COVID-19. THAT'S WHY I I SAY WHEN YOU

READ THESE REPORTS. >> I HEARD A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE ARE CLOSER TO $10 MILLION.

>> WE ARE ABLE TO RECEIVE SOME MONEY BACK FROM OUR STOP LOSS THIS LAST MONTH. IN AUGUST WE RECEIVED $400 MILLION IN STOP LOSS, BUT WE ARE VERY, VERY SMALL OVER REVENUE EXPENSE. IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE STOP LOSS MONEY WE WOULD HAVE BEEN NEGATIVE.

WE ARE AVERAGES -- AFNL -- AVERAGING $300, 400 EACH MONTH. WITH THE CURRENT HEALTH INSURANCE WE ARE TRYING TO REDUCE SOME OF THE COSTS AND WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT WHEN WE COME UP TO THE HEALTH INSURANCE RATES HERE SHORTLY. IT IS IMPERATIVE TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME YEARS WE HAVE CATASTROPHIC INJURIES TO ACCOUNT FOR. THE STOP LOSS MEANS WE HAVE TO PAY $375,000 AND ANY AMOUNT ABOVE THAT.

WE ARE REIMBURSED FOR IT, BUT IT MAY TAKE A MONTH OR TWO TO GET REIMBURSED. THAT'S WHERE THE PROS -- PROCESS IS. PROCESS IS.

WE ARE LOOKING TO BE AT LEAST $2 MILLION NEGATIVE.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: HE WILL BE HERE SHORTLY IF YOU

WANT TO TALK TO TOMAS. >> I TALK TO DALE AND TALK TO TOMAS AND GET MIXED MESSAGES. YOU SAID 2.2 MILLION -- OR TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE 2.5 MILLION WE ARE GOING TO -- WE WILL BE OKAY IN THAT AREA. THAT'S WHAT IT WILL BE?

>> WITH WHAT MY HISTORY IS AND LOOKING AT THE BALANCES, IF THE REVENUED EXPENSE PERCEIVE -- PERCEIVES WHERE IT IS, WE CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM THREE TO FIVE.

THAT'S HOW EXPENSIVE SOME OF THIS MEDICAL CLAIMS ARE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I TO ACCEPT THE MONTHLY REPORT FROM MAY 2021.

>> I. >> I.

JULIE, RUN US THROUGH E1. IT IS ONE ITEM AND THEN YOU

[1. Discuss and consider adding car allowance of $96.15 per pay period for the Director of Mental Health Programs from effective date of hire, March 22, 2021.]

CAN GET BACK TO YOUR WORK. IT IS CONSIDERING ADDING A CAR ALLOWANCE OF $96 PER PAY PERIOD FOR THE DIRECTOR OF MENTAL HEALTH AND IT IS MARCH 2D , 2021.

ARE THERE QUESTIONS OF JULIE? IT IS SELF-EXPLANATORY.

[03:40:02]

IT IS A MATTER OF POLICY. YOU ARE WELCOME TO TALK TO

JULIE. >> THIS IS FUNDED BY THE

HOSPITAL DISTRICT. >> THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT WILL

REIMBURSE US. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: EVEN BETTER. IS THERE ANYBODY WHO HAS A POLICY DECISION? AND THEN MOTION AND WE NEED A

SECOND. >> SECOND.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: SECOND. AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY

BY SAYING I. >> I.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: OKAY. SO NOW WE ARE GOING BACK IN

TIME -- >> THANK YOU.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THANK YOU.

NOW IF YOU WILL GO BACK TO YOUR REGULAR AGENDA AND ITEM

[4. Receive overview and discuss permissible uses of the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds under the final interim rules; discuss and consider project prioritization and allocation of ARPA funds.]

NUMBER 4 IS WHERE WE LEFT OFF AND THAT IS RECEIVE AN OVER VIEW AND DISCUSS PERMISSIBLE USES OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT UNDER THE FINAL INTERIM RULES AND WE ALSO COULD, IF WE CHOOSE TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER, PROJECT PRIORITIZATION OF THESE FUNDS.

AND WE HAVE KRISTEN KERR ON AND I SAW RACHEL'S NAME.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON.E BARBARA CAND AFTERNOON.

WE WANTED TO HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION WITH YOU ABOUT PERMISSIBLE USES, AND I KNOW HAVE A SMALL PRESENTATION TO GET EVERYBODY ON BOARD. YOU CAN REMIND THEM OF THOSE.

AND THEN I PROVIDED YOU WITH J1 FROM OUR BUNLETT BOOK.

FROM OUR BUDGET BOOK THAT SHOWCASES SOME OF THE BUDGET CHALLENGEDS. I THINK IT WAS THE WILL OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO DISCUSS OPENLY WHETHER SOME OF THOSE BUDGET CHALLENGES COULD BE FUNDED BY THIS AMERICAN RESCUE

PLAN ACT FOR FUNDING. >> YES.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JUDGE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE.

I WANTED TO GO OVER BRIEFLY ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WOULD ARE FROM THE PUBLIC ATTENDING. WHAT THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT AND CORONAVIRUS LOCAL DIS-- DISORDER AND RECOVERY FUNDS AND WHAT THEY CAN BE USED FOR.

FOR EVERYONE'S BACKGROUND AND CONTEXT, UNDER THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, THE CORONAVIRUS LOCAL PHYSICIAN RAIL RECOVERY -- FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDS WERE ALLOCATED ON MARCH 11TH. $350 WERE GIVEN TO STATE, LOCAL GOVERNMENT ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

AND THE PRIMARY GOALS OF THE FUNDING IS TO REALLY HELP SUPPORT ON GOING RESPONSE ACTIVITIES TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY AND STRENGTHEN THE SUPPORT OF PUBLIC SECTOR JOBS TO SUPPORT IMMEDIATE ECONOMIC STABLIZATION AND RECOVERY EFFORTS FOR YOUR COMMUNITY AND TO ADDRESS THE ECONOMIC CHALLENGES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO ANY IMPACT ON SERP POPULATIONS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

THEY RECEIVED $70 MILLION AND THESE FUNDS CAN BE UTILIZED UNDER FOUR ELIGIBLE CATEGORIES.

THE FIRST BEING SUPPORT AND ITS IMPACT.

INCLUDED IN THIS CATEGORY OF USE THEY CAN HELP WITH RESPONSE ACTIVITIES RELATED TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY.

AND IT CAN BE USED TO HELP FUND BUSINESSES AND NON-PROFITS AND REALLY HOUSEHOLDS IN YOUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE FEELING THE EFFECTS AND THE IMPACT OF THE PANDEMIC. IT IS USED FOR LOSS SECTOR REVENUE AND IN PARTICULAR THIS IS LOSS POP SECTOR -- PUBLIC SECTOR REVENUE FOR PUBLIC SERVICES.

ANY IDENTIFIED LOSS REVENUE CAN BE IDENTIFIED AND PROGRAMED TO GENERAL GOVERNMENT USES.

THE THIRD IS TO PROVIDE PREMIUM PAY FOR ESSENTIAL WORKERS. THIS INCLUDES UP TO $13 PER HOUR UP TO $25,000 PER PERSON AND IT CAN ALSO BE PAID AS GRANTS TO PRIVATE EMPLOYERS INCLUDING THOSE IN THE FOOD INDUSTRY AND ESSENTIAL WORKERS SUPPORTING PUBLIC HEALTH CARE CLINICS AND CLINICS THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC.

THE U.S. TREASURY IDENTIFIES THE LIST OF THOSE WHO QUALIFY FOR PREMIUM PAY. AND THEN FINALLY IT CAN BE USED FOR WATER, SEWER AND BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE.

THERE ARE A FEW WAYS IN WHICH THE FUND CANNOT BE USED.

THE U.S. TREASURY IDENTIFIED THEM IN THEIR INTERIM RULE AND FRK AQ -- AND THE FAQ FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS OF THEY CANNOT BE USED TO MAKE DEPOSITS INTO PENSION FUNDS.

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IT CAN ALSO FUND DEBT SERVICE AND LEGAL SETTLEMENTS OR JUDGMENTS OF THEY CANNOT BE USED TO DEPOSIT INTO RAINY DAY FUND OR FINANCIAL RESERVES AND THEY CANNOT FUND OTHER GENERAL INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING OUTSIDE WATER, SEWER AND BROADBAND INVESTMENT. UNLESS THEY ARE ALLOCATED UNDER THE REVENUE LOSS PROVISION FOR THE PROVISION OF GOVERNMENT SERVICES. SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT TO COLLECT SOME OF THE DEPARTMENT'S ON GOING PRIORITIES AND NEEDS OVER THESE LAST FEW WEEKS.

AS YOU KNOW THE COUNTY WAS ALOE SKATED -- ALLOCATED 70.3 MILLION AND TODAY RECEIVED 35.1 MILLION.

OF THE REQUESTS WE DID RECEIVE WE HIGHLIGHTED A FEW OF THE PROJECTS DISCUSSED IN LAST WEEK'S BUDGET WORKSHOP FOR YOUR ORGANIZATION. I WANTED TO HAVE THEM ON THE SLIDE HERE FOR YOU ALL TO VIEW AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON.

AND PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> I WILL JUST TELL YOU THAT I MADE A MISTAKE ON THE VETERAN SERVICES OFFICER. THAT IS CORRECT, BUT THE AMOUNT IS INCORRECT. WE'LL GET YOU THE CORRECT AMOUNT. THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE J1 CHALLENGE THAT SAID VETERANS TREATMENT COORDINATOR.

THAT'S THE RIGHT AMOUNT FOR THAT ONE.

AS I UNDERSTAND THAT'S GRANT FUNDED.

THIS ONE IS FOR OUR VETERAN SERVICE OFFICE THAT LOST ITS GRANT FUNDING. AND SO I NEED TO GET THE RIGHT AMOUNT. IF YOU DON'T MIND, YOU CAN MAKE THAT MENTAL NOTE HERE AND WE'LL GET YOU THAT CORRECT

AMOUNT. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR KRISTEN AT THIS POINT? HOW ABOUT ANY COMMENTS? FOR KRISTEN? YES.

>> KRISTEN, WHEN YOU SAY WATER, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WASTE WATER DRAINAGE IN CERTAIN AREAS?

>> IF I HEARD CORRECTLY ARE YOU ASKING IF THEY ARE FOR WATER, WASTE WATER AND DRAINAGE-TYPE PROJECTS ?

>> THAT IS CORRECT AND YOU CAN UTILIZE THAT.

THAT IS ALL INCLUDED IN WATER AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

I I KNOW YOU SAID BROAD -- BROADBAND, BUT DID YOU SAY

PARKS? >> DID YOU SAY PARKS?

>> NO. IN PARTICULAR TO PARK IF YOU ARE SEEKING FOR PARK UP FRO STRUCTURE -- PARK INFRASTRUCTURE THAT COMES UNDER REVENUE LOSS POSITIONS.

>> SO GOING THROUGH, THIS COMMISSIONERS I KNOW COMMISSIONER CHESNEY YOU WANTED TO SEE ABOUT PRY YOUR TAU -- PRIORITIZATION. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THESE AS FAR AS IF THEY WERE TO BE INCLUDED IN

PRIORITIZATION? >> MY QUESTION IS FOR DALE.

THE ONES WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK, ARE ALL OF THOSE IN

HERE? >> YES.

>> THAT TOOK OUT ROUGHLY A MILLION FROM BUDGET

CHALLENGES. >> YES.

WE HAVE RESOLUTION NUMBERS FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND WITH THE NUMBERS WE SL A -- WE HAVE A LIABILITY FOR

OUR BOOKS. >> THAT WAS FOR THAT ONE.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONES WE TALKED ABOUT ARE LIFEGUARD AND

I'M SORRY -- >> RISK ASSESSMENT OFFICER AND METROCOM. THOSE ARE THE THREE THAT ADDED

UP TO THE MILLION. >> THAT WAS ANOTHER MILLION.

SO BASICALLY TAKING OUT THE MILLION FOR THE BOUNDARY DISPUTE AND THE MILLION-ISH FOR THE OTHERS, THAT TOOK OUT TWO MILLION OF THE INITIAL -- IT TOOK 2 MILLION OUT OF HERE AND WE TALKED TO THE TWO ATTORNEY POSITIONS AND IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE IN OUR BUDGET -- AND UNDERSTAND IT KICKS THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ALT BIT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO FUND IT AT SOME POINT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE HAVE SEEN IN HERE, DALE, -- DALE OR KRISTEN, THAT WE THINK CAN COME OUT OF THAT. THE ONES WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK, THEY ARE IN HERE. THAT'S AWESOME.

SCHWA WE -- >> WE DID PUT THE LIFEGUARD AND THE RISK ASSESSMENT AS THE OTHER POSITION WE HAVE FOR METRO COME, THEY ARE ALL HERE.

AS WE KNOW METROCOM IS SLIGHTLY LESS THAN 546.

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THE NUMBER I HAVE IS 546,000 M. >> WELL THAT'S THREE THINGS WE

TALKED ABOUT. >> THESE ARE THE THREE RIGHT HERE. THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

>> THE OTHER ONES ARE -- RECAUSIFICATION AND THAT'S NOT HERE BECAUSE THAT'S UP FOR DISCUSSION WHETHER THAT HAS TO BE INCLUDED OR NOT. THAT'S ANOTHER ITEM OF

CONTINGENCY. >> IF WE LOOKED AT ANYTHING WE CAN THINK OF, WE HAD ALL OF THESE BUDGET MEETINGS WHERE PEOPLE CAME FORWARD. AND WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE STUFF FOR GRANTS AND YOUR OFFICE AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE ARPA -- THE ARPA FUNDING AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE LOOKED

AT EVERYTHING. >> WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET.

THIS IS THE ONLY THING WE HAVE DONE WITH HONESTY CAN SAY AND THERE ARE STILL DECISIONS TO BE MADE.

THE SOFTWARE QUALIFIES BECAUSE THERE IS A PROVISION REGARDING TECHNOLOGY. SO WRITE TECHNOLOGY BY IT.

METROCOM SOFTWARE QUALIFIES BECAUSE IT IS TECHNOLOGY, BUT THE OTHER PIECE IS PERSONNEL SALARY INCREASES.

THE SALARY INCREASES COULD QUALIFY UNDER PREMIUM PAY.

THE NEXT PIECE IS LIFEGUARD SERVICES.

THEY QUALIFY IF THEY DO LOST REVENUE AND GOVERNMENT SERVICES ALLOCATION. SAME WITH VETERAN SERVICES.

WE NEED TO FURTHER TALK TO JJ AND IF THAT PERSON REALLY IS WORKING ON THE HOME BOUND VETERAN DUE TO COVID THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE CAN QUALIFY AS SERVICES.

>> THAT'S EVEN BETTER. WE CAN CHANGE THAT NUMBER.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: AND THEN THE RISK ASSESSMENT UNDER MENTAL HEALTH. ONE WILL BE A COVID CONTRACT ATTORNEY AND THE OTHER IS TO HELP IN BACKLOGS AND THERE ARE CERTAIN PROVISIONS THAT ALLOW FOR THAT.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS RIGHT NOW AND WE ARE STILL NEEDING TO GO THROUGH. YOU CAN QUALIFY SOME MORE.

IT IS NOT THE UNIVERSE, BUT IT WILL HELP US IN BUDGET TO KNOW THAT THIS COURT WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE ITEMS. THAT'S WHY IT IT SAYS DISCUSS AND PRIORITIZE.

YOU CAN GO BACK AND SAY WHAT OTHER POSITIONS MIGHT QUALIFY? I'M GLAD YOU RECOGNIZE THAT IT IS KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.

IT IS. AND SUSTAINABILITY IS HUGE.

>> IT IS LIKE A GRANT-FUNDED POSITION.

WHILE WE HAVE THE GRANT WE HAVE THE POSITION.

>> RIGHT. >> WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE GRANT, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IF WE KEEP THE POSITION OR WE DON'T KEEP THE POSITION. EXCEPT THERE IS NO GOING BACK ON LIFEGUARD SERVICES BECAUSE THAT'S A STATE MANDATE.

>> AND SOFTWARE -- THAT'S A ONE-TIME SHOT.

THAT'S WHY THIS IS BEING BROUGHT TO YOU.

IT TRULY LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING THAT, A, WE CAN AFFORD AND BECOME SUSTAINABLE WITH OVER TIME OR FIND OTHER FUNDING FOR AND REMEMBER THE RISK ASSESSMENT OFFICER IS THERE TO HELP WITH MINUTE -- WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND DECOMPRESS THE JAIL AND WE HOPE THAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.

I THINK THESE ARE THE ONES THAT BEFORE YOU EVEN GET TO -- KRISTEN WILL TELL YOU ABOUT HOW MANY MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE NEEDED WHEN IDENTIFIED BY THE COUNTY, THIS

IS A GOOD PLACE TO BEGIN. >> DO WE INCLUDE THEIR DRAINAGE AND WASTE WATER IN THERE?

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: LET ME GO BACK TO SAYING -- OF COURSE THAT WOULD BE A CONSIDERATION, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE A PROJECT PER SAY. WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE IS PRIORITIZE SO YOU CAN GET THESE OFF YOUR BUDGET CHALLENGE LIST RIGHT NOW. THAT'S THE WHOLE GOAL.

GET THE NUMBER AS LOW AS IT WILL GO.

IF YOU DON'T ADDRESS THESE RIGHT NOW THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE A BUDGET CHALLENGE. THAT IS THE ISSUE.

>> COMMISSIONER, THERE WAS A REQUEST FROM I.T. BEFORE DARRELL CAME ON STAFF AROUND 700, 800,000 OF INCREASE IN I.T. I WORKED WITH DARRELL WHERE WE IDENTIFIED THREE OR FOUR AND I'M SURE I WILL TALK TO HAGGERTY. THAT DEDUCTS ABOUT $360,000

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FROM THAT EXPENSE AND THERE ARE OTHER UPDATES THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR CONTINUING WITH -- I HAVE A MEETING WITH DARRELL NEXT WEEK. WE WILL DEFINITELY WORK WITH HIM ON WHAT WE CAN INCLUDE, BUT WE BELIEVE WE REDUCED THE BUDGET BY $360,000. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

WE WILL KEEP UPDATING IT, BUT WE CAN KEEP GOING SO KRISTEN CAN SHOWCASE WHAT ELSE SHE'S GOT.

DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THESE SO FAR?

>> THESE LOOK GOOD. >> LET ME ASK AGAIN, CREWS STEN, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS ALL DAY -- KRISTEN, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS ALL DAY LONG. HOW DO WE KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE APPROVED? WHO IS TELLING US THIS IS

OKAY? >> KRISTEN.

>> DO YOU HEAR ME? >> KRISTEN IS.

>> IT IS KIND OF HARD TO HEAR.

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? >> YES.

>> THIS ITEM HERE, WHROA -- WHO IS TELLING US IT IS OKAY OR THINK THEY WILL FLY? DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN WRITING FROM THE STATE SAYING THIS IS OKAY?

>> YES, COMMISSIONER. THERE IS NO APPLICATIONS REQUIRED TO SEND THESE FUNDS OR REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF THESE FUNDS. IT IS UNDER YOUR APPROPRIATION OF HOW THESE FUNDS CAN BE USED AND IT IS UP TO YOUR JURISDICTION ON HOW THEY WILL BE USED.

WE ARE REVIEWING THE PROJECT PROPOSALS THAT HAVE COME IN AND LOOKING TO SEE HOW THEY FALL IN THE CRITERIA SET FORTH BY THE TREASURY. AND WE -- IN THE COMING WEEKS WE WILL BE WORKING TO COME TO A SPENDING PLAN FOR YOU.

WE CAN PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL

FOR YOUR FUNDING -- >> IT WILL BE A RECOMMENDATION

IN WRITING? >> IT WILL COME TO YOU IN THE FORM OF A SPENDING PLAN. I THINK PRIOR TO THAT THERE IS AN EXPRESSED INTEREST IF A SERIES OF CONVERSATIONS PRIOR TO THAT. THE COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO

APPROVE IT. >> ONCE WE APPROVE IT, IT WILL

COME DOWN -- >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: AT

THE CAN. >> THIS IS NOT IN OUR

CATEGORY. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THEY

SEND TEAMS OF PEOPLE. >> I'M JUST ASKING.

I'M JUST ASKING HOW IT WORKS. I'M JUST ASKING THE WAY IT WORKS SO -- I'M JUST TRYING TO -- AGAIN, YOU TALKED ABOUT

DOCUMENT -- DOCUMENTATION. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE UH GUARANTEE --

>> JUDGE, CAN I TALK? I AM ASKING KRISTEN, YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES REVIEWING ALL THIS.

IT COMES FROM YOU. IT COMES BACK TO YOU GUYS?

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WE ARE THE POLICY MAKING.

I AM UPSET BECAUSE OF THE LETICIOUS NATURE OF YOUR QUESTION IS WE WOULD PUT IT BACK ON HAGGERTY.

YOU SAY THE DOLLARS ARE COMING FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS.

THEY ARE COMING FROM THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF

TREASURY. >> LET ME FINISH, PLEASE.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IT IS DIFFICULT WHEN YOU HAVE

EVERYTHING WRONG. >> JUDGE, I DON'T INTERRUPT YOU WHEN YOU ARE TALKING. PLEASE CONTINUE IN THIS LINE

OF LETIGUOSNESS. >> I DON'T MEAN TO PUT NEW A SPOT OR ANYTHING. I AM NOT DOING IT FOR THAT REASON. I AM JUST SAYING THAT SOMETIMES WHEN WE GET THINGS THAT SAY WE ARE NOT SURE, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN IT COMES FROM YOU GUYS, I WILL SAY WHAT WE HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL DAY.

IT IS DOCUMENTATION. WHATEVER WE DO WE HAVE TO HAVE DOCUMENTATION. WE WILL TELL YOU THIS IS WHAT WE WANT. A TEAM COMES DOWN AND WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE TEAM COMING DOWN.

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>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WHAT I'M SAYING IF YOU READ THE PACKET -- YOU DON'T READ. YOU DON'T READ.

YOU THINK THAT THIS MONEY IS COMING FROM --

>> DO YOU HAVE TO BE SO NEGATIVE ABOUT EVERYTHING? COME ON. WE HAVE OPINIONS TOO.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IT IS NOT THAT YOUR OPINIONS L -- ARE NOT APPRECIATED AND VALIDATED.

I AM TRYING TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS.

>> SO WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO QUESTION ANYBODY?

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE INFORMED

AND THAT'S YOUR DUTY. >> I AM TRYING TO BE INFORMED.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IT WOULD HELP TO READ.

>> WHY DO WE HAVE HER HERE IF I CAN'T ASK QUESTIONS.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS THERE ARE

NO GUARANTEES. >> THIS IS RIDICULOUS.

ALL DAY LONG YOU ARE ARGUING AND ARGUING AND ARGUING WITH

US. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YOU ARE SETTING UP PEOPLE AND I DON'T AGREE --

>> THE QUESTIONS ARE ALL GOOD QUESTIONS.

YOU'RE SURPRISED BY THAT? >> NO, I'M NOT.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I CAN COLLECT THOSE NOTES UNDER THE

OPEN MEETINGS. >> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE YOUR

HELP. >> I SAID IT WAS MY TURN TO GET YELLED OUT. THAT WAS MY NOTE.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COLLECT IT.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: JUST SO YOU KNOW ALL YOUR NOTES

WILL BE COLLECTED. >> I DON'T CARE.

>> THANK YOU, KRISTEN. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YOU

CAN'T TALK BECAUSE IT IS -- >> NO.

I CAN TALK TO ONE PERSON. I CAN'T TALK BETWEEN THE SHIELD AND I SAID -- I SENT A NOTE THAT SAID IT IS MY TURN TO GET YELLED AT TODAY. YOU CAN COLLECT IT AND YOU CAN

HAVE IT. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IT IS FINE. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS YOU UNDERSTAND THESE ARE FEDERAL DOLLARS AND NOT STATE DOLLARS. YOU ASKED HER IF THE STATE --

>> I JUST ASKED -- >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YEAH,

YOU DID. >> I SAID WHAT -- I SAID WOULD SOMEBODY LOOK AT IT. I SAID WOULD SOMEBODY COME

DOWN AND LOOK AT IT. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YOU

DID. >> WHOEVER COMES DOWN, STATE, FEDERAL, IF IT IS FEDERAL, IT IS FEDERAL.

IF IT IS STATE, THEN THE STATE.

>> COMMISSIONER? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING.

I WAS HOPING MAYBE I COULD PROVIDE A LITTLE CLARITY ON

THE PROCESS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> SO THESE FUNDS WERE ALLOCATED BY THE U.S. TREASURY AND THE DIRECT ALLOCATION TO THE COUNTY.

THE FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR THE FOUR PRIMARY CATEGORIES I MENTIONED ABOVE AND THE U.S. TREASURY GIVES BROAD FLEXIBILITY WITH HOW THEY ARE BEING USED IN EACH CATEGORY.

THERE IS A SERIES OF REPORTING THAT THE COUNTY WILL HAVE TO SUBMIT TO THE U.S. TREASURY. THEY MAY COME BACK WITH QUESTIONS, AS YOU MENTIONED. FOR ANY FINAL DETERMINATIONS OR RECOMMENDATION FOR DETERMINATION THAT WE MAY PRY TO YOU, WE MAY NOT PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION IN WHERE WE DON'T THINK THE FUNDING CAN BE USED UNDER THE ALLOWABLE USES IN THE FINAL ROLE. AND IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR FURTHER CLAIRE FEE WE CAN -- CLARITY WE CAN SUBMIT ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY. THAT'S HOW WE PROVIDE SUPPORT

TO OUR CLIENT. >> THANK YOU.

>> IF YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IS DOCUMENTING EVERYTHING ALONG THE WAY.

ALL OF THE PROJECT PROPOSALS RECEIVED FROM THE DOCUMENT WE HAVE DOCUMENTED AND CAN START A PRELIMINARY INTRODUCTION OF REVIEW OF ELIGIBILITY FOR THOSE ITEMS AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT MAY BE SHARED WITHIN THESE MEETINGS OR ANY FUTURE EVENTS WE CAN TAKE TO REVIEW AND TIE BACK THE DECISION THE COUNTY MAKES TO ALLOW THOSE. I HOPE THAT PROVIDES CLARITY.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YOU ARE NOT GUARANTEEING

ANYTHING. >> I KNOW.

EXCUSE ME. I AM SPEAKING TO KRISTEN.

HAGGERTY IS NOT HERE TO GUARANTEE SO THAT'S WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW EACH OF THESE WILL BE USED.

THE CONCERN I HAVE THAT HAS NOT BEEN ARTICULATED YET IS THAT THERE IS ONLY A FIE FIGHT NUMBER OF LOST RECEIVE -- FINITE NUMBER OF LOST REVENUES.

WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE LIFEGUARD SERVICES IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT ONCE YOUR LOST REVENUES ARE UP , THEN THAT'S ALL YOU CAN ATTRIBUTE TO GOVERNMENT SERVICES. THAT'S WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE A THIRD COLUMN TO SUGGEST YOUR RECOMMENDATION.

ALTHOUGH IT WILL BE OUR FINAL DECISION MAKING.

WE GET TO BE THE DECISION MAKERS.

IT CAN QUALIFY IN THREE CATEGORIES AND YOU CAN RECOMMEND THAT ALL THREE, FOR EXAMPLE, MENTAL HEALTH, I.T.

INFRASTRUCTURE AND LOSS IN GOVERNMENT SERVICES.

I CAN THINK OF ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT MIGHT FIT THAT BILL, ALL THREE. AND IT WILL BE UP TO US AS POLICY MAKERS WHICH ONES TO CHOOSE.

EVEN THOUGH YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS ALL THREE.

IF IT COMES BACK LATER AND YOU SAY BUCKET A AND YOU CHOSE BUCKET C, THAT'S OUR DECISION.

BY THE WAY, THAT'S THE WAY IT IS WITH ALL GRANTS.

THIS IS NOT UNIQUE. ALL GRANTS HAVE A COMPLIANCE AND AN AUDITING-TYPE OF PROCESS AND THAT'S WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO BE SO CAREFUL ABOUT WHICH BUCKET, IF YOU

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WILL, OR WHICH CATEGORY WE USE.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE GONE INTO. IF WE TALK ABOUT THIS BEING ESTABLISHED AGAINST ONE OF THEM AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE

THE PRIORITIES COME FORTH. >> IF I MIGHT, I DID WANT TO CLARIFY. WHAT I AM COUNTING ON IS HAGGERTY IS VETTING THIS SO THEY CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO TELL US THAT THESE ARE LEGITIMATE CHOICES TO MAKE.

I WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE I READ THESE RULES, BUT MAN ALIVE, I

AM NO EXPERT. >> YOU HAVE OR YOU HAVEN'T?

>> I'LL BE HONEST, I AM HAVING A HARD TIME MAKING HEADS OR TAILS. I AM RELYING ON OUR EXPERTS TO SAY, HEY, THESE FUNDS LEGITIMATELY FALL UNDER THE TREASURY RULES AND DALE CONFIRMS THEM.

THAT'S NOT TO BLAME THEM IF IT GOES WRONG, BUT WE HIRE EXPERTS ON THINGS AND MAYBE EVEN JENNY NEEDS TO GET INVOLVED. WHAT I LEARNED ABOUT GRANTS IN THIS PLACE IS AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS, BUT IT WAS ONE OF THESE FUNDS THAT DALE WAS HARD ON ME WHICH HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN. IF THEY EVER COME BACK IT IS ON ME. BEFORE I RECOMMEND YOU SPEND -- I THINK IT WAS WHAT WE HAD THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO AND I AM NOT TRYING TO BE A HARD CASE ON THIS.

I AM TRYING TO SIMPLY SAY MY JOB AS THE AUDITOR TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS AS COMMISSIONERS AND GIRLS DON'T MAKE MISTAKES AND SO I AM GOING TO TELL YOU IF THAT WORKS OR DOESN'T WORK. DALE HAS ASSURED ME THAT THIS FITS. A, I DON'T WANT TO DO IT, AND B, OUR EXPERTS SAY IT FITS IN THE BUCKET.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHY I AM ASKING ABOUT IT.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT IS BLAME OWED THIS DOWN THE ROAD IF IT IS WRONG.

MAYBE WE NEED JENNY TO WEIGH IN ON THIS.

>> I THINK SHE CAME UP WITH THE ATTORNEY POSITIONS, TO HER CREDIT, BASED ON HELP WITH THE BUDGET.

I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU ARE SAYING THESE OTHER DOLLARS FIT INTO THE RULES WE ARE SUPPOSED TO SPEND THIS MONEY ON.

THAT'S ALL -- AS POLICY MAKERS WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO OUR EXPERTS AND MAKE A DECISION BASED ON.

WHAT I AM HEARING SO FAR IS EVERYBODY SAYS THEY FIT.

IS THAT WRONG? >> WE ARE WORKING WITH HAGGERTY ON THESE AND SO FAR AS WE KNOW SO FAR, YES.

WE ARE LOOKING AT SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AND HAPPY TO DO

THAT. >> I WOULD LIKE FOR Y'ALL TO SIGN OFF ON THIS TOO. AM I LOOKING FOR ANOTHER LAYER OF PROTECTION? ABSOLUTELY.

SO IF OUR LAWYER AND OUR AUDITOR AND OUR EXPERT COME IN AND SAY THESE ALL FIT I WILL FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.

THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. >> THAT'S WHY WE REQUESTED TO GO OUT FOR A PROPOSAL FOR A C PJ A FIRM LOCALLY TO HELP ASSIST MYSELF ON THIS. I KNOW THEY ARE WORKING ON PROPOSING IT SOON. WE KNOW WE CAN FIND SOMEONE AND WE WILL BEACON TACTING YOU -- BE CON TACKING YOU SHORTLY. THERE WILL BE SOME EXPRESSION

ON ARPA FUNDS. >> WILL WE BE ABLE TO USE THESE FUNDS FOR DRAINAGE AND PARKS? I DO HAVE PARKS THAT HAVE A CREEK IN IT.

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>> SHE SAYS THE MAIN ISSUE COVERS THE WASTE WATER AND DRAINAGE. AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT QUALIFIES UNDER THE FUNCTION. WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND VET EVERYTHING TO SEE IF IT DOES QUALIFY.

AND IF IT IS FOR PARK IMPROVEMENTS MAYBE NOT.

>> THANK YOU. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: SO GO A TO YO NEXT SLIDE -- ON TO YOUR NEXT SLIDE.

>> JUDGE, THIS WAS JUST THE SUMMARY OF THE ITEMS THAT I BELIEVE WE ARE -- YOU ARE REQUESTING FOR CONVERSATION TODAY. MY FINAL SLIDE IS JUST A SLIDE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. I DID WANT TO MENTION BECAUSE I HEARD YOU NOTED IT EARLIER ON IN THE CALL, OF THE TOTAL REQUESTS WE RECEIVED FROM THE DEPARTMENT AND WE ARE WAITING FOR A FEW DEPARTMENTS TO SUBMIT THEIR PROJECT AND IDEA PROPOSALS WE HAVE RECEIVED REQUESTS FOR $150 MILLION.

AND OF COURSE THIS IS EXCEEDING THE ALLOCATION WHICH IS WHY AS EVERYONE IS IN AGREE -- AGREEANCE, IT IS A DIFFERENCE TO PRIORITIZE HOW THESE FUNDS WILL BE ALLOCATED AND HOW THE FINAL SPENDING PLAN IS LOOKED LIKE FOR THE COUNTY. AS WE RECEIVE THE PROJECT PROPOSALS, WE ARE REVIEWING EACH OF THE PROJECTS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE INTERIM FINAL RULE AND THE FAQ THAT IS PROVIDED. FOR EACH PROJECT WE WILL SITE SPECIFIC GUIDANCE HOW IT CAN TIE BACK TO THE U.S. TREASURY GUIDANCE. I HEARD THERE MAY BE A CONCERN THERE. AND THAT IS A PART OF OUR NORMAL PROCESS. WE ARE VETTING THROUGH EACH OF THE PROJECT PROPOSALS. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE ONES ON THIS SLIDE TODAY ARE THE ONES THAT WERE -- I GUESS IT CAME UP FROM THE BUDGET WORKSHOP LAST WEEK THAT YOU THOUGHT MAYBE A POTENTIAL OPTION IS TO USE ART FUNDING FOR. WE ADDED THEM TO THE PRIORITIZATION LIST FOR ALL OF THE REQUESTS WE RECEIVED.

>> AND LET ME JUST POINT OUT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE VETERAN SERVICE PIECE OF IT. THAT'S ONE THAT NEEDS A LOT MORE VETTING. I DO BELIEVE A RISK ASSESSMENT OFFICER AND THE LIFEGUARD AND EVERYTHING ELSE YOU SEE ON HERE HAS BEEN PROPERLY VETTED.

OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I WILL SAY I NEED TO DO BETTER VETTING ON PIECES AND WE CAN WORK ON THAT.

HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER LIST FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. WE CAN PRIORITIZE THEM WITH HOW THEY DO WITH SO MANY OTHER THINGS.

YOU WOULD BE DEDUCTING 636-4988.

IS THAT A MOTION THAT SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE AT THIS TIME?

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE FUNDS BASED ON THE REPRESENTATION MADE TODAY.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THAT AUDITOR -- THAT UH UH BIT -- THAT AUDITOR WILL TAKE SOME TIME.

IF THE AUDITOR COMES IN AND SAYS YOU CAN'T DO THAT, YOU WILL HAVE TO FUND IT AGAIN. THE PRIORITIZATION IS IMPORTANT SO YOU KNOW IT IS NO LONGER A BUDGET CHALLENGE.

WE HAVEN'T. >> JOE A. GONZALEZ: OUT FOR

THE RFQ YET. >> -- WE HAVEN'T EVEN GONE OUT

FOR AN RFQ. >> JUST TO FUND THESES ITEMS.

>> YES IS THE MOTION SUBJECT TO IF DALE HIRES AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT AND THEN THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY CAVEAT.

THAT'S CORRECT. I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU THE CAVEAT TO THOSE THAT CAN STAY ON.

>> I CAN PULL IT FOR NOW. >> THEY HAVE A VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER AND WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ARPA FUNDS SUBJECT TO ANY OTHER BY COUNTY ATTORNEY AND HAGGERTY.

>> SECOND. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: AND GOR GIVE ME, BUT THE CORRECTION IS -- FORGIVE ME, AND THE CORRECTION IS THAT'S NOT THE PRICE FOR THE SOFTWARE. WE SHOULD PROBABLY BREAK IT UP. IT IS SOFTWARE PLUS SALARY INCREASES ANTICIPATED WHEN I HAVE THE METRO COME -- METROCOM MEETINGS. THIS IS IN ANTICIPATION OF.

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>> AND THE ERP RIGHT? >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THE

PIECE IN METROCOM -- >> IT INCLUDES SALARY INCREASES AND I DO THINK THAT SHOULD BE --

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: AND APPROVED BY THE BOARD.

THAT WILL BE A MEETING THAT TAKES PLACE IN LATE AUGUST.

I THINK IT IS LIKE 27TH. WE SHOULD BREAK THAT UP.

AND THEN IT IS JUST AN ESTIMATION.

NOBODY BROUGHT FORTH A PROPOSAL.

THERE IS 300,000 FOR THAT. WHAT IF IT WAS 305? WE CAN BRING THAT BACK. OR IF IT WAS 280.

>> IF THESE NUMBERS CHANGE THEY COME BACK.

WE WILL SEE THEM IN THE BUDGET ANYWAY.

>> LIFEGUARD SERVICES HAVE SOME FACTORED INTO THE BUDGET. THOSE CAN BE APPROPRIATED

THERE TOO. >> WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS IF IT COMES OFF THE TABLE WITH THIS MOTION THEN YOU KNOW IT IS NO LONGER A BUDGET CHALLENGE AND YOU HAVE A BUDGE THE FUNDING

SOURCE. >> RIGHT.

THE INTENT WOULD BE IF THE NUMBERS CHANGE PLEASE BRING THEM BACK TO US SO WE KNOW. OTHERWISE I'M GOOD WITH THE CONCEPT OF WHAT THESE NUMBERS ARE.

PULLING OUT VETERAN SERVICE --

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: AND AGAIN WE WILL BRING THOSE BACK AND ANY OTHER. THERE ARE OTHERS WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BY THIS GROUP.

WHAT? >> I SAID I DON'T HAVE THAT

WITH ME -- I HAD SOME -- >> I LEFT MY BUDGET STUFF.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I HAVE MINE IF YOU WANT IT.

IT IS RIGHT HERE. SO THAT'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. ARE THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? WHAT?

>> NOT REALLY. I'M CHECKING -- MOTION AND A SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AND JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR THE CLERK, EXCEPT FOR THE VETERAN SERVICE -- MAYBE USE THIS AS AN EXHIBIT OR SOME SORT OF A REFERENCE THAT THIS COURT IS ELECTING TO PRIORITIZE ARP FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDS RECEIVED BY NUECES COUNTY FOR THE FOLLOWING, AND I WILL JUST SAY IT ON THE RECORD. ERP SOFT WAIVE -- SOFTWARE, INCREASE IN METROCOM SOFTWARE AND POTENTIAL SALARY INCREASES. LIFEGUARD SERVICES TO BE DEFINED. RISK ASSESSMENT OFFICER FOR ONE YEAR OF FUNDING, AND TWO ATTORNEYS AND ONE LEGAL ASSISTANT ONE YEAR OF FUNDING. THIS WOULD ALSO BE FURTHER DESCRIBED AS AN ATTORNEY TO ASSIST IN THE BACKLOG OF CASES IN ADDITION AN ATTORNEY TO CONCENTRATE ON COVID CONTRACTS AND LEGAL UH SUCCESS -- ASSISTANT WOULD SERVE IN BOTH THOSE CAPACITIES TO THOSE LAWYERS.

I AM ACTUALLY IN FAVOR OF MAKING IT A TWO-YEAR FUNDING BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT GOING AWAY IN ONE YEAR.

HAVING SAID THAT, WE CAN BRING THAT BACK AT A -- AT ANOTHER TIME. THAT'S A DESCRIPTION FOR THE CLERK AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

>> I. OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

KRISTEN, NOW YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT THE â– COURT'S WILL%-A

[9. Discuss recent COVID-19 related orders and recommendations; discuss and consider taking any action, approving policies, and/or adopting any resolutions or Orders authorized by law related to county facilities, county employees, citizens, and visitors of Nueces County regarding COVID-19.]

[1. Discuss and consider jail population and Nueces County housing of prisoners out of county through interlocal agreements, including matters related to 2021-2022 budget.]

[3. Discuss and consider insurance premium rates for Health, Life, and ancillary services for the 2021-2022 fiscal year.]

[4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.]

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>> THANKS FOR BRINGING US BACK ON THE RECORD.

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IT IS 4:59 P.M. M. WE HAVE SOME ITEMS TO ADDRESS

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THAT WE HANDLED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THAT WILL BRING US

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INTO AN ITEM THAT WAS BROUGHT INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THE

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REGULAR AGENDA REGARDING ANIMAL CARE SERVICES.

[A. Discuss, consider and take action regarding claim and settlement demand of Frontier Communications and related matters.]

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FIRST ON ITEM A IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING THE

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SETTLEMENT DEMAND OF FRONTIER COMMUNICATIONS?

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I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE DENY SUCH SETTLEMENT.

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WE ASK -- I ASK FOR A SECOND. >> SECOND.

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THERE'S BEEN A MOTION AND A SECOND.

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ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

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>> I. OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

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WE STILL HAVE A QUORUM, BUT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IS NOT HERE AND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ IS NOT HERE FOR THE RECORD.

THE SECOND ITEM IS AN ITEM REGARDING -- ITEM E AND ITEM E

[E. Consult with County Attorney regarding health insurance and workers compensation law for law enforcement employees potentially injured during the course of their normal duty; discuss and consider payment of any outstanding claims.]

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IS REGARDING THE HEALTH INSURANCE AND WORKMAN'S COMP LAW. WOULD YOU GUYS WANT TO MAKE A

STAB AT THAT? >> WASN'T THAT JUST CONSULT?

IS THERE ACTION? >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT IT WOULD BE A DIRECTIVE BY THIS COURT -- I MAKE A MOTION THAT DIRECTS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO CREATE A POLICY SUCH THAT WE COULD ACHIEVE THE -- BOTH IN TWO ARENA, THE HEALTH ARENA AND WORKMAN'S COMP ARENA THE 100% COVERAGE WE BELIEVE IS AFFORDED TO OUR SPECIAL CLASS OF OFFICERS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE CONSTITUTION AND THOSE INCLUDE THE SHERIFF, THE SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES AND THE CONSTABLES AND THOSE LISTED WITH REGARD TO SPECIAL COUNTY OFFICERS THAT ARE LAW ENFORCEMENT RELATED.

BOTH THEIR COMPENSATION BE AT 100% EVEN THOUGH INJURY OCCURS AS WELL AS THE INSURANCE FOR THEIR MEDICAL COVERAGE.

WE ARE ASKING AS A COMMISSION THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY DEVELOP A POLICY TO BRING BACK TO US SO WE CAN ACHIEVE BOTH OF US ON GOALS THAT I JUST ARTICULATED.

>> SECOND. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: OKAY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

>> I. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: WHICH THEN -- AND THEN IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WITH REGARDS TO -- I DON'T SEE ANYTHING -- IT WAS A CONSULT ONLY FOR B.

IT WAS A CON -- CONSULT ONLY FOR C.

[D. Consult with County Attorney on legal matters related to Energy Savings Performance Contract with ABM Building Services, LLC for Capital Improvement Program (CIP), and equipment lease/purchase agreement with Banc of America Public Capital Corp.]

WITH REGARDS TO D, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS BEEN ASKED TO PRODUCE AN ADVISORY AND SHE WILL DO THAT AND BRING THAT BACK TO US REGARDING THE ABM CONTRACT.

THAT'S ALL THE ACTION WE HAVE.

I WILL DOUBLE CHECK THAT. BY THE WAY, I DID NOT SAY THIS, BUT WE -- LET'S SEE. IT WAS 5:03 NOW SO I'M GUESSING WE WENT BACK ON THE RECORD ABOUT 5:01 FOR THE CLERK. IS THAT OKAY? DID I SAY 4:59? THAT'S GREAT.

ALSO I'LL SIGN FOR YOU WHEN I GET A CHANCE, BUT WE DO HAVE

[1. Discuss issues related to Nueces County Animal Care Services, including its autonomy, policies, operating procedures, and best practices.]

ONE ISSUE WHICH WAS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT -- THIS IS WHERE WE SPOKE ABOUT. IT WAS ITEM 1, BUT IT WAS DISCUSSED LAST REGARDING THE ANIMAL CARE SERVICES REGARDING THE AUTONOMY AND BEST PRACTICES.

JUAN, YOU ARE HERE TO REPRESENT THE DEPARTMENT AND WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE ADVISORY BOARD.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING IN REGARDS TO THIS ITEM, OR DO YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM US? HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO START? I KNOW -- LET ME JUST KIND OF SET THE TABLE SO YOU CAN OH, OKAY, I KNOW WHERE SHE IS GOING HERE. THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT MAYBE WE HAD NOT PROPERLY REALLY OR DONE EVERYTHING WE COULD TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS IS ITS OWN DEPARTMENT. YOU HAVE AUTONOMY OR YOU ARE YOUR OWN DEPARTMENT HEAD. YOU HAVE OR -- YOU HAVE YOUR OWN DEPARTMENT NUMBER. THAT'S HOW YOU KNOW THINGS ARE REAL WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR OWN DEPARTMENT NUMBER.

THAT MEANS YOU HAVE YOUR OWN BUDGET.

THE ONLY NEXT SUCCESS THAT WE -- THE ONLY NEXUS WE HAVE TO RESPECT IS THE NEXUS THAT HAPPENS WHEN IT DEALS WITH MEDICAL ISSUES AND ANIMALS AND IN THAT REALM AND ONLY THAT REALM THERE WILL BE A NEXT SUCCESS -- NEXUS FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOR YOUR RABIES AND SOME OF THE OTHER DISEASES WE TRY TO PREVENT. IN THAT CAPACITY THERE IS A CONNECTION. IT IS A NICE WAY TO REMIND THE AUDIENCE AND REMIND THE BOARD THAT YOU ARE YOUR OWN VEHICLE, RIGHT, TO DO VERY GOOD THINGS WITH ANIMAL CARE.

I NOTICE THAT THERE WERE SOME ISSUES THAT HAD COME UP.

ONE OF THE THINGS WAS A WEBSITE, THAT THE WEBSITE REALLY ISN'T CORRECT. DO YOU WANT TO SHARE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE THAT WE CAN MAYBE AS A COURT FIX

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FOR YOU OR DIRECT FOR YOU? DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT? I KNOW IT IS NOT CORRECT.

SOMEWHERE IT IS NOT CORRECT. IF YOU WILL SHARE IT WITH US, I CAN ASK THE COURT TO MAKE THAT DIRECTIVE.

>> OKAY. I THINK JUAN IS PASSING THE

MIC TO ME. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: OKAY.

>> I GUESS I KNOW WHY. ANYWAY, THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE BEEN RUNNING UP AGAINST FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS ARE THE FACT THAT THE ANIMAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT, IF YOU WILL, FALLS UNDERNEATH THE UMBRELLA OF THE CITY/COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT. AND THEREFORE AS A RESULT IT'S NOT A STAND ALONE DEPARTMENT IN THE FACT THAT JUAN HAS TO OBTAIN APPROVAL FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS OR IS SUPPOSED TO OBTAIN APPROVAL. HE DOESN'T HAVE THE DECISION-MAKING CAPACITY, AND YET HE DOES SIMPLY BECAUSE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS ALLOWED HIM TO OPERATE AUTONOMOUSLY.

THEY ARE OVERWHELMED, NEEDLESS TO SAY, BECAUSE OF THE PAN DEPP MICK. PANDEMIC.

IT WAS ALWAYS, THAT'S OVER THERE AND THEY ARE TAKING CARE OF THINGS AND WE DON'T NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN THE DECISIONS.

EVEN THOUGH THE SUPERVISORS, MR. HERRERA PRIOR TO JUAN AND JUAN NOW HAVE ALWAYS MADE THOSE DECISIONS, ON A TECHNICALITY KIND OF A BASIS HE HAS RUN INTO SITUATIONS WHERE HE FELT LIKE, WREL, AM I SUPPOSED SH -- WELL, AM I SUPPOSED TO OBTAIN APPROVAL OR AM I NOT SUPPOSED TO OBTAIN APPROVAL? WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO A DOCUMENT EVENT. DO I HAVE TO GO TO ANNETTE? DO I HAVE TO GO TO ANNETTE EVERY TIME LISA WANTS TO BRING THE MEDIA IN TO DO A TV INTERVIEW? DO I HAVE TO GO TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOR QUESTIONS REGARDING CAN I SEND THIS ANIMAL TO THE VETERINARIAN.

DOES THAT FALL UNDER MY JURISDICTION FOR MEDICAL.

THERE ARE QUESTIONS HE HAD ALONG THE WAY AND EVEN THOUGH HE FELT LIKE HE HAS HAD THE AUTONOMY AND HE HAS, BUT MORE OR LESS IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN, WELL, JUAN, WHATEVER YOU THINK. IT IS ALWAYS WHATEVER YOU THINK AND WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.

WE TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT. IT WOULD ALSO COME DOWN TO, LIKE, SAY THERE WAS A COMPLAINT.

SO SOMEONE WOULD COMPLAIN, WELL, WHO DO THEY COMPLAIN TO. THEY WOULD SAY, WELL, WE WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR SUPERVISOR. WELL, MY SUPERVISOR IS ANNETTE RODRIGUEZ. IF SOMEBODY IS UPSET BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY FELT LIKE THEIR DOG SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PICKED UP BY THE DOG CATCHER, WELL, WOULD ARE WE SUPPOSED TO REFER THAT COMPLAINT TO? OR IF A RESCUE WAS UPSET PERHAPS WITH THE WORK I WAS DOING WITH THE RESCUES AND THEY WANTED TO SPEAK TO SUPERED -- SUPERVISOR RAMIREZ AND THEY DIDN'T LIKE WHAT HE SAID BECAUSE HE WAS SUPPORTING ME, THEN WHERE IS HE SUPPOSED TO REFER THEM.

WE RAN INTO THOSE ISSUES AND THEN WE ALSO REALIZE THAT BEING UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THE CITY-COUNTY HEALTH UNIT HE IS A NUECES COUNTY EMPLOYEE AND HE IS PAID BY THE COUNTY, BUT HE IS BEING SUPERVISED BY THE CITY-COUNTY HEALTH UNIT AND THEN THE OTHER ISSUE IT BROUGHT FORTH WHEN I JOINED THE ADVISORY BOARD WAS WHO DOES THE ADVISORY BOARD REPORT TO? IT LENT ITSELF TO ANOTHER SET OF QUESTIONS I HAD I WAS NOT ABLE TO GET ANSWERS TO.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE ADVISORY BOARD IS MANDATED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS. ON A TECHNICAL BASIS THEN WE SHOULD REPORT TO THE CITY/COUNTY HEALTH UNIT AND THEY SHOULD BE THE ONES TO COME BEFORE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND PRESENT A QUARTERLY REPORT OR AN ANNUAL REPORT OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

IT JUST BROUGHT UP -- IT RAISED A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

OVER THE YEARS I QUIP BRINGING -- I KEEP BRINGING FORTH THE QUESTIONS TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND TO JUAN.

I SPOKE A LOT AT LENGTH WITH THE FORMER COMMISSIONER AND IT SEEMED TO A LOT OF US IN DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS THAT IT SHOULD BE ITS OWN SEPARATE DEPARTMENT.

IT WON'T AFFECT ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BUDGET AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

IT ISN'T A MONETARY THINGS. IT IS A CHAIN OF COMMAND THING AND WHO IS THE SUPERVISOR OF WOULD THING AND THAT SORT OF STUFF. THAT WAS THE INITIAL REASON IT WAS BROUGHT FORTH. I DON'T WANT TO SOUND LIKE JUAN DOESN'T REALLY CARE WHICH WAY IT GOES.

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HE HAS OPERATED ALL OF THESE YEARS UNDER THE CITY AND COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT. MR. HERRERA SPOKE UP BACK IF MARCH AND CONCURRED THAT IT WAS NEVER UNDER THE CITY/COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO START WITH.

IT WAS A STAND-ALONE DEPARTMENT.

THE ONLY REASON IT COOPT JUST -- IT COULDN'T JUST BE THAT AND TAKE THEM OUT OF THE EQUATION.

THAT WAY THE ADVISORY BOARD CAN MOVE FORWARD AND RESTRUCTURE ITS BI-LAWS WHICH IS SOMETHING I WAS DIRECTED TO DO CLOSE TO TWO YEARS AGO NOW.

IN ORDER FOR US TO RE-DO OUR BI-LAWS WE HAVE TO REPORT TO WHO THE BOARD IS REPORTING TO.

BECAUSE THEY WERE SET UP UNDER THE STATE MANDATE TECHNICALLY BECAUSE THEY ARE UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WE REPORT TO THE CITY/COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT. MR. HERRERA CONCURRED THAT IT WAS NEVER ESTABLISHED THAT WAY PRESIDENT THAT ANIMAL CONTROL WAS ESTABLISHED AS A DEPARTMENT AND THROUGH ATTRITION OR WHATEVER IT WAS ASH -- AIR BOUGH -- ARBITRARILY DECIDED. THERE WASN'T A FORMALITY TO IT. A LOT OF TIMES JUAN WILL SAY, THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS YOU WANT, LISA, SO YOU TALK ABOUT THEM. IT IS NOT THAT HE ISN'T CONCERNED ABOUT THEM, BUT HIS JOB FUNCTION WON'T CHANGE WHETHER IT CHANGES UNDER ONE OR BECOMES ANOTHER.

THESE ARE SOME OF THISH -- OF THE ISSUE THAT'S KEEP COMING UP. THERE WILL BE THINGS WE DISCUSS LIKE A PROMOTIONAL OPPORTUNITY OR A CLEAR THE SHELTERS EVENT OR HOW WE WILL -- WELL, AM I SUPPOSED TO GET PERMISSION? AM I NOT SUPPOSED TO GET PERMISSION? WHAT IF THE ONE TIME HE DOESN'T GET PERMISSION FROM HIS SUPERVISOR, THAT IS THE ONE TIME HE GETS HIS HAND SLAPPED.

YOU DIDN'T FOLLOW PROPER PROTOCOL.

IT SETS THOSE THINGS UP AND IT HAS A BEARING ON THE ADVISORY BOARD. I HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR A VERY LONGTIME NOW TO DO THE REVISED BI-LAWS AS YOU ASKED ME AND THAT'S THE HOLDUP. WE REDID THEM AND THE BOARD APPROVED THEM IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS BEING APPROVED.

SO THE WAY THE NEW BY LAWS ARE -- BI LAWS ARE WRITTEN IS WE REPORT TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND THE JUDGE, BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO PASS THEM BECAUSE WE WERE NEVER TOLD OFFICIALLY AND FORMALLY THAT THAT'S HOW YOU FOLKS HAVE MADE THAT DECISION. BRIAR BRIAR

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: IT IS MY BELIEF AND WE ASKED THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO CONFIRM THIS.

YOU HAVE AUTONOMY TO CREATE EVENTS AND TO DO ALL OF THESE WONDERFUL THINGS. IT WOULD HELP IF YOU HAD A LIST OF THINGS YOU CAN'T DO. EVERYTHING THAT IS NOT ON THE LIST OF CAN'T WOULD BE IN THE LIST OF CAN.

I THINK THAT IT IS VERY CLEAR AT LEAST IN OUR MIND THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO ASK -- YOU ARE TO THE UNDER THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT EXCEPT FOR IF YOU HAVE A RABIES OR -- CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME OF THE OTHER ONES? I KNOW THERE ARE TWO OTHER ONES.

WHAT ARE THE OTHER DISEASES YOU WOULD NORMALLY WORK WITH

THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT? >> NORMALLY IT IS RABIES.

I TALKED TO COMMISSIONER MANTES Z -- NORMALLY WE HAVE SPECIMENS THEN THEY GO TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IN AUSTIN.

WE ARE NOT REALLY ATTACHED TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HERE

LOCALLY. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: RIGHT.

>> IT IS AUSTIN, THE STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

IF SOMETHING COMES OUT POSITIVE WITH RABIES, THEN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT FROM AUSTIN WILL SEND THE VETERINARY REGION AND WE WORK TOGETHER. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS THERE AND WE WORK TOGETHER IF WE HAVE TO.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: OKAY. LOOK, THE BOTTOM LINE IS I THINK YOU NEED SOME SORT OF STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES. WE ARE GONNA TRY TO GIVE THEM TO YOU. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IT HAS BEEN THE INTENTION OF THE COURT SINCE WE DID IT THAT YOU ARE SEPARATE AND YOU SHOULD REALLY CREATE THAT DEPARTMENT THE WAY YOU WITH YOUR ADVISORY BOARD DREAM IT TO BE.

IF YOU HAVE A CONCERN OR -- YOU DON'T HAVE TO HESITATE.

YOU CAN ASK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OR THE COURT ADMINISTRATION CAN HELP FACILITATE IT.

I THINK YOU NEED TO HEAR IT FROM US TODAY THAT ANIMAL CARE SERVICES IS ITS OWN DEPARTMENT WITH THE ONLY EXCEPTION BEING THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE TIMES WHERE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WILL INTERSECT WITH YOU, AND THEY WOULD BE THE AUTHORITY ON RABIES AND THE AUTHORITY ON THOSE COMMUNICABLE DISEASES THAT SOMETIMES ANIMALS GET.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, JUAN, YOU HAVE THAT ABILITY TO ACT LIKE

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A DEPARTMENT HEAD. DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE RULES

TOO, RIGHT? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: AND THOSE RULES YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH AND I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO WOOER RE-- WORRY YOU HAVE TO CLEAR IT WITH THE HEALTH BECAUSE -- HEALTH DEPARTMENT BECAUSE YOU ARE SEPARATE FROM THEM.

AND AS BUSY AS THEY ARE, YOU ARE RIGHT, LISA, THEY WOULD LOVE TO HELP YOU DO SOME OF YOUR PREVENTION EVENTS, BUT THEY'VE GOT THEIR PREVENTION EVENTS GOING ON ON COVID-19.

I THINK IT IS SUPER IMPORTANT THAT YOU ARE -- AS PRO ACTIVE AS YOU CAN BE, AND IF IT HELPS YOU -- WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO HAVE OUR DEPARTMENT HEAD MEETINGS, BUT I'M WILLING TO GO AHEAD AND JUST HELP US ALONG, WHY DON'T WE SCHEDULE ONE PER WEEK JUST TO KIND OF GET YOU, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING AND YOU GET THE GO, GO, GO.

AND THEN WE CAN BRING IT TO COURT AS A QUARTERLY PRESENTATION OF ALL OF THE GOOD THINGS YOU GUYS HAVE DONE AND WANT TO DO P IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION -- TO AD. IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION WE HAVEN'T CORRECTED THE RIGHT NAME ON THE WEBSITE.

IT SHOULD READ ANIMAL CARE SERVICES.

AND THEN I THINK THERE WAS THE ISSUE -- THERE WAS ONE OTHER ISSUE, MATT, THAT YOU BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.

>> IT WAS THE FACT THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE ALL OF THE

INFORMATION WE NEED. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: RIGHT.

SO THE WEBSITE IS NOT JUST A NAME.

THE CONTENT IS NOT RIGHT. WE WILL NEED TO ASK YOU -- IF YOU WILL PROVIDE THE CONTENT TO COURT ADMINISTRATION WE CAN GET IT TO CONNIE AND SHE CAN UP LOAD IT, HOPEFULLY, ON THE WEBSITE. THAT IS ONE THING.

IF CONNIE CAN'T DO IT, WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW IT CAN BE DONE. THAT'S ONE WAY YOU CAN FEEL LIKE PEOPLE NEED TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT ANIMAL CARE SERVICES IS ALL ABOUT IN NUECES COUNTY.

AND I ALSO WANT TO CHALLENGE YOU WITH SOMETHING.

IN YOUR AUTONOMY I THINK YOU GUYS AT THE BOARD DESIRE THERE IS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ANIMAL CARE SERVICES BUILDING, AND WHETHER OR NOT OTHER ENTITIES ARE INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH US AND WHETHER THE ANSWER IS YES OR NO, WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE COURT IS FOR YOU GUYS TO COME AS A BOARD AND SAY WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT HEAD, WE VETTED THIS COMPLETELY AND THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE.

OR YOU WOULD SAY, HEY, THE CITY OF X IS VERY INTERESTED IN PAYING -- THEY CAN GET RID OF THEIR DEPARTMENT AND THEY CAN PAY TO BE A PART OF OURS, RIGHT? AND WE HAVE ALREADY AS A COURT HIRED SHELTER PLANNERS OF AMERICA TO DESIGN A NEW ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, AND WE PRY YOURSELF -- PRY YOUR $3 MILLION -- PRIORITIZE $3 MILLION. THOSE ARE THE ACTIONS THE COURT HAS TAKEN. TO MAKE THOSE ACTIONS A REALITY I THINK YOUR HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF ANYBODY WANTED TO COALESCE YOU CAN DO THAT.

I WANT TO ASK YOU, THE BOARD MEMBERS AND JUAN, THERE IS A GREAT NEED OR LITTLE NEED FOR ANIMAL CARE SERVICES IN THE AREA? IS THERE A GREAT NEED OR SMALL NEED FOR ANIMAL CARE SERVICES.

>> IS THAT A QUESTION? >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YES.

>> IT IS A GREAT NEED. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: OKAY.

IF I ASK YOU, HEY, CAN YOU JUST CALL CORPUS AND THEY CAN HANDLE YOUR ANIMALS RIGHT NOW, WHAT WOULD THE ANSWER BE?

>> YOU MEAN TO SERVICE THE COUNTY?

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YES. >> THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT. NO.

BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE SPACE? BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE PERSONNEL OR BOTH?

>> FIRST OF ALL THE JURISDICTION DOESN'T GO INTO THE COUNTY. THEY ONLY WORK THE CITY.

IT WAS SUGGESTED WHEN YOU WEREN'T HERE THERE MIGHT BE SOME WILL TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE CITY.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT'S -- THAT HAS NOT BEEN MY IMPRESSION AT ALL. VISITING WITH YOUR BOARD MEMBERS AND VISITING WITH YOU AND WORKING ALL OF THE ISSUE THAT'S WE DO IN MY OFFICE EVERY WEEK.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE I AM BEING FAIR AND I AM HEARING FROM YOU GUYS. IF YOU THINK WE HAVE A BIG

SERVICE AREA TO PROVIDE FOR. >> THE SERVICE AREA IS VERY LARGE GEOGRAPHICALLY AND IT NEDS TO BE ENLARGED -- AND IT NEEDS TO BE ENLARGED. THE COURT APPROVED THE NEW FACILITY. IT IS NOT ADEQUATE.

WE NEED A BIGGER FACILITY AND THE MAYOR OF THE AD-HOC

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COMMITTEE FOR AN PAL SERVICES.

THE BIG DIFFERENCE I SEE COMPARATIVELY SPEAKING ARE CORPUS CHRISTI'S ANIMAL CARE SERVICES IS LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF NUECES COUNTY JUST IN THE FOLLOWING AREAS.

THEY HAVE A GREATER BUDGET. THEY HAVE MUCH, MUCH LARGER STAFF, AND THEY DO HAVE A BIGGER STRAY PROBLEM AND POPULATION BECAUSE IT IS IN A MORE CONCENTRATED SITUATION.

YOU KNOW, NOT SO SPREAD OUT. IT IS A MUCH BIGGER POPULATION. WHAT THEY HAVE AND WHAT THE COUNTY IS LACKING IS THE SERVICES.

IT IS FRUSTRATED BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE TO MOVE INTO A BIG $3 MILLION FACILITY, THAT'S GREAT.

BUT THAT WILLNESS DAY POLICIES PROCEDURES AND ADDITIONAL STAFFING AND THEY HAVE SO MANY -- SO MUCH OF THAT IN PLACE ALREADY THAT WE CAN BORROW FROM OR PLAGIARIZE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THEY ARE DOING I DON'T KNOW THAT THE COUNTY WILL BE ABLE TO.

THEY EMPLOY A VETERINARIAN AND HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE VETERINARIAN CLINIC ON THE PREMISES.

I DON'T SEE THAT AS BEING FEASIBLE FOR THE COUNTY.

BOUGH THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. RATHER THAN SIT UP HERE AS A COURT AND ARGUE ALL THE TIME ABOUT THIS IDEA OF -- WE MOVE FORWARD ON PROJECTS AND THEN THEY BECOME -- WE CAN NEVER GET TO THE REALITY OF THEM BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH -- THEY ARE ALWAYS ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK EVEN IF YOU APPROVE THEM. IT IS VERY COUNTER PRODUCTIVE TO ACTUALLY GETTING YOUR GOALS ACCOMPLISHED.

SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT THE BOARD -- LOOK, I WANTED TO REINFORCE TO YOU TODAY, YOU ARE YOUR OWN DEPARTMENT.

YOU NEED TO ACT YOUR OWN DEPARTMENT, BUT LET US FOE -- LET US KNOW DAILY, HEY THIS IS NOT WORKING SO WE CAN CHANGE IT. LET'S BRING THE BI-LAWS NEXT COURT AND WE CAN GET THEM ON THE AGENDA TO LOOK AT THEM.

GIVE THEM TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FIRST BECAUSE SHE'S GOOD AT MAKING SURE SHE CAN HELP YOU BEFORE THEY GET TO US.

SHE APPRECIATES PLENTY OF TIME SO IT MAY BE TWO COURTS.

LET US WORK ON THE WEBSITE, BUT GIVE US THE CONTENT.

WE'LL GET THAT DONE AND I THINK THAT'S A QUICK PHYSICAL -- A QUICK FIX AND THEN WE WILL WORK ON THE IDEAS OF WHAT COLLABORATIONS CAB MEMORIALIZED.

NOT JUST WHAT SOMEONE WANTS TO DO, BUT COULD WE SHARE THE VETERINARIAN? IS THAT A POSSIBILITY?

>> AND HONESTLY AT THIS POINT, THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO. SHE IS OVERWHELMED AND BUSY, BUT WHAT CAN WE LEARN FROM THAT, OR MAYBE THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THERE. I DON'T KNOW.

>> OR MAYBE WORKING THROUGH THE AG EXTENSION PROGRAM AT TEXAS A AND M. I WANT YOU TO SAY I AM GONNA GET THIS BUILDING AND THIS IS HOW -- THE BUDGET WILL LOOK LIKE THIS IN THREE YEARS AND THIS WILL BOOST US UP BY $100,000. THEREFORE WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ATTEND TO THAT. OR WE HAVE TO GRANT OUR WAY OR COULD WE CREATE AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH ANOTHER JURISDICTION LIKE BISHOP WHO DOESN'T HAVE A PROPER FACILITY. THEY TOLD US.

MAYBE THEY CAN PAY US SO THAT WE CAN OFFSET SOME OF THOSE STAFFING COSTS, RIGHT? BUT BY TAKING THEIR ANIMALS.

IF WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL FACILITY WE CAN FOSTER AND ADOPT AND MOVE ANIMALS THROUGH IN A WAY WE CAN'T DO NOW.

THERE ARE SO MANY WAYS, BUT WE NEED YOUR HELP AS MUCH AS YOU NEED OURS. I'M GLAD YOU STUCK IT OUT BECAUSE YOU NEEDED TO HEAR IT.

WE'RE HEAR TO -- WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

BESIDES THE WEBSITE, THE CONTENT AND THE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO FOR YOU, JUAN, IS MAKE SURE WE HAVE A LIST FROM THE LAWYERS TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU CANNOT DO WITHOUT AUTHORITY.

THAT'S GONNA REALLY FOCUS ON RABIES.

EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD GO THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESSES OF PROCUREMENT, WHAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY FOLLOW, AND SOMETIMES YOU DO HAVE TO LEAP. IT IS OKAY TO LEAP.

JUST GO OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW -- IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT SOMETHING, JUST PICK UP THE PHONE AND GIVE US A QUICK CALL. OVER TIME, LISA, THAT CONFIDENCE WILL BUILD SO YOU CAN SEE YOURSELF AS MAKING -- BEING A DECISION MAKER. THE ONE THING I COULD SUGGEST

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TO YOU AS A BOARD IS WHY DON'T YOU COME UP WITH A PLAN, A 12-MONTH PLAN FOR EVERYTHING. IF YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT MAKING THESE DECISIONS ON YOUR OWN, BRING IT TO COURT AND LET US APPROVE IT AS A 12-MONTH PLAN.

IT IS PERFECT TIMING BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO START OUR FISCAL YEAR. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SPOT ON, BUT GENERALLY. WE WANT FIVE EVENTS.

WE WANT TO FOCUS ON SPAYING AND NEUTERING.

WE WANT TO FOCUS ON ANIMAL CARE, RIGHT? PUT IT TOGETHER AND THEN WE BLESS IT AND THEN JUAN GETS TO GO EXSCUTE -- EXECUTE. I THINK IT COULD BE HELPFUL FOR JUAN AND FOR THE BOARD. YOU CAN BRING IT WITH THE BI-LAWS IF YOU WANT TO IN A COUPLE WEEKS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? >> I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEEDED BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE HE'S LACKED SOME DIRECTION IN THAT REGARD. MUCH TO HIS CREDIT MANY OF THE THINGS THAT THE BOARD IS WANTING AND MYSELF AS A VOLUNTEER AS WELL ARE THINGS HE'S ALREADY DOING.

IT FALLS UNDER, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, OTHER DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. WE ARE VERY BLESSED HE HAS BEEN SO ACCEPTING AND GENEROUS WITH TIME.

THEY ARE DOING SO MANY WOUND OF THINGS OVER THERE, BUT IT IS ALL BASICALLY BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO BE HELPFUL AND THEY WANTED TO BE A PART OF MOVING THE BALL FORWARD.

LOOKING AT THE EMERGING TRENDS IN THE INDUSTRY, THINGS HAVING TO DO WITH BEST PRACTICES, STANDARDS AND SHELTER MANAGE -- MANAGEMENT. THEY ARE PART OF THAT, BUT THERE IS SO MUCH OUT THERE ON THE TABLE.

A LOT OF THE THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN ARE COMING FROM OTHER AGENCIES AND ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE ASSOCIATION OF SHELTER VETERINARIANS WHO PRODUCED THE GUIDELINES OF STANDARDS IN CARE AND ANIMAL SHELTERS.

MUCH OF THAT IS BEING DONE. NOBODY IS SAYING IT IS NOT IN ANYWAY, SHAPE OR FORM, BUT THERE IS UH -- THERE IS A LOT MORE THAT CAN BE DONE WITH AN INCREASED BUDGET AND INCREASED STAFFING. IT IS GREAT THAT WE DO START LOOKING FORWARD AND LOOKING AHEAD TO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. I THINK THE TIMING IS REAL GOOD, AND THAT'S WHY I STUCK IT OUT.

I FEEL LIKE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I COMMITTED SEVEN YEARS TO THIS PROJECT.

I WALKED IN THE MORNING TO SAVE DOGS AT AN ANIMAL SHELTER. AND NOW HERE I AM SEVEN YEARS

LATER. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YOU HAVE DEDICATED SO MUCH OF YOUR TIME.

>> IT IS VERY RE-- REWARDING TO SEE THE CHANGE THAT'S HAVE COME OVER THE YEAR. JUAN AND HIS STAFF, THE AMAZING THINGS THEY DO THAT THE COUNTY DOESN'T EVEN KNOW.

THEY GO ABOVE AND BEYOND. WEEKLY, CAN YOU TAKE DOGS OFF AND DROP THEM OFF AT THE VET? THEY ARE USING THEIR STAFFING TO DROP THE DOGS OFF TO THE VET FOR RESCUES.

OR TODAY I NEEDED AN ANIMAL TEMPERAMENT TESTED SO THEY HELPED A VOLUNTEER AND GOT THE DOG OUT AND WALKED IT AND CHECKED IT TO GET IT TO A RESCUE AND THEY ARE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND. I AM BLESSED TO BE ABLE TO

WORK WITH ALL OF THEM. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: YOU HAVE DONE WELL AND I HOPE AT LEAST WE ANSWERED SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS. LET'S TRY TO DO THE FOLLOW THROUGH AND I WANT TO THANK MR. STEVENS WHO IS ON YOUR BOARD WHO ALSO REACHED OUT TO ME THIS WEEKEND TO LET ME KNOW THAT THESE ARE SOME OF THE ISSUE THAT'S MIGHT BE PRESENTED AND THAT HEADS UP IS ALWAYS APPRECIATED SO WE CAN GET YOU ANSWERED. GET YOU ANSWERS.

SOUNDS LIKE A DOCTOR. WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.

WE'LL SEE YOU BACK IN COURT VERY SOON.

PLEASE GET YOUR BI BI-LAWS TO JENNY AS QUICK AS YOU CAN.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR JUAN.

ARE YOU THE LOCAL RABIES AUTHORITY --

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: GET CLOSER TO YOUR MIC.

>> I WAS CONFUSED ON ONE ISSUE BECAUSE I AM TRYING TO LEARN ALL THE TIME. YOU SAID YOU ARE THE LOCAL RABIES AUTHORITY. AS LOCAL RABIES AUTHORITY WOULD YOU WORK WITH OUR CITY-COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT

OR WITH THE STATE? >> IT WOULD BE WITH BOTH.

>> WITH BOTH, OKAY. THAT'S GOOD.

>> HE IS CONSIDERED SOMETHING CALLED THE LOCAL RABIES AUTHORITY. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS ON RECORD THAT YOU ALL KNOW. THAT'S.

>> THAT'S A SPECIAL DESIGNATION.

THAT'S GREAT. AND I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY THIS. I COULD REALLY USE SOME HELP.

THERE IS A CONSTITUENT WHO HAS A PROBLEM WITH CATS AND I SENT IT TO JUAN. HE KNOWS WHO I AM TALKING ABOUT, LISA. IF WE CAN HELP THIS RESIDENT, THERE HAS GOT TO BE SOMETHING TO DO IN THE STATE TO HELP HER FIND PLACES FOR THESE CATS. IT IS A REAL PROBLEM AND IT INDICATES THIS IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN JUST SOMEHOW TAKE OUR WORK AND GIVE IT TO THE CITY IS NOT REALISTIC.

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THIS ONE IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF MANY.

I WOULD JUST ASK YOU TO WORK WITH JUAN AND IF THERE IS ANYTHING WE CAN DO, LET US KNOW.

I WOULD LIKE TO GET BACK WITH THE CONSTITUENT AND SAY BE FIGURED -- SAY WE FIGURED OUT A SOLUTION FOR YOU.

>> I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE A REINVENTING OF THE WHEEL.

THEY HAVE GREAT PROGRAMS AND SERVICES.

THEY ARE OVERWHELMED AND THEY ARE NOT SERVICING THE NEEDS OF THEIR COMMUNITY. AT THIS POINT IN TIME THERE IS NO WAY THEY COULD PROVIDE THAT KIND OF ASSISTANCE, BUT ARE THERE WAYS THE ENTITIES COULD WORK TOGETHER IN THE FUTURE? OF COURSE THERE ARE. WE JUST HAVE TO FIND SOME OF -- I JUST -- I MEAN I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN LEARN FROM THEM AS FAR AS SOME OF THE THINGS THEY DO.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THEY CAN LEARN FROM NUECES COUNTY

AS WELL. >> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: SUPER.

THAT'S A FAIR AND GOOD ANSWER AND I WILL BE SURE -- THOSE QUESTIONS -- HE CAN REACH OUT TO YOU.

HE IS ATTENDING TO A VACCINE CLINIC AND THAT'S WHY HE IS NOT HERE. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY ASKED THE QUESTIONS HOW WE CAN CROSS COLLABORATE.

AND I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

COMMISSIONER, DO YOU WANT TO END WITH OUR COMMENTS?

>> I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK JUAN HAS DONE AND I AM GLAD HE HAS THE CLARIFICATION THAT WAS THERE BEFORE.

SOMETIMES YOU NEED TO HEAR IT PUBLICLY TO HAVE ANY WEIGHT TO IT. OUR VOLUNTEERS ARE GREAT AND OUR BOARD OBVIOUSLY IS RECRUITING FOR MORE AND HOPEFULLY THIS UNDERSTANDING GIVES HIM A CHANCE TO KNOW THAT THEIR INPUT AND THEIR EXPERTISE IS GOING TO BE HIGHLY CRITICAL -- HIGHLY IMPORTANT IN SHAPING THE ANIMAL SERVICES AND ANIMAL CARE SERVICES FOR YEARS TO COME AND IN TANDEM WITH THE BUILDING OF OUR NEW SHELTER.

I APPRECIATE MATT AND LISA FOR BEING HERE ALL THIS DAY AND JUAN ALSO FOR YOU. THANKS.

>> EXCUSE ME. I JUST HAVE ONE SIMPLE THING TO SAY. HOW MANY YEARS DID YOU WORK

WITH RAYMOND HERRERA? >> 10 YEARS.

>> 10 YEARS. >> ABOUT 10 YEARS.

BEFORE THAT I WAS WITH THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI ANIMAL CONTROL UNDER THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT CITY AND COUNTY SO I HAVE KNOWN RAYMOND HERRERA SINCE 1985.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY, HE WAS A DIRECTOR.

>> HE WAS A MANAGER. THE TITLE WAS MANAGER.

>> I THOUGHT I SAW HE WAS A DIRECTOR.

EITHER WAY YOU LEARNED PROBABLY QUITE A BIT FROM RAYMOND. HAVE THE CONFIDENCE IN YOURSELF AND DO WHAT HE WOULD DO OR ASK YOURSELF WHAT WOULD RAYMOND DO IN THIS SITUATION. I THINK YOU ARE CAPABLE OF TAKING CARE OF THE DEPARTMENT.

PLEASE FEEL CONFIDENT AND DO YOUR JOB THE WAY RAYMOND WOULD DO IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. APPRECIATE YOU.

>> JUGE BARBARA CANALES: THANK YOU.

OKAY. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THAT'S IT FOR THAT PARTICULAR ITEM. THAT CONCLUDES OUR ENTIRE AGENDA FOR THE DAY. I WAS ABLE TO ASK IN ADVANCE IF THERE WERE ANY ADJOURNMENTS IN MEMORY.

I THINK COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HAD ONE, BUT HE IS GOING TO SAVE IT FOR NEXT TIME. I DON'T RECALL ANYONE ELSE HAVING ONE, BUT I WILL ASK ONE LAST TIME.

I KNOW THAT THERE WERE MULTIPLE DEATHS DUE TO COVID-19. THERE WERE 10 YESTERDAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADJOURN IN THE MEMORY OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHOSE NAMES WE DO NOT KNOW, BUT WHOSE LIVES WE ARE TRYING TO HONOR BY PROTECTING OTHERS IN THIS COMMUNITY.

WITH THAT WE ARE ADJOURNED. THE TIME IS 5:34 P.M.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.