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WE ARE GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, THERE IS THREE
[ NUECES COUNTY, TEXAS COMMISSIONERS COURT *This will be a remote meeting with multiple methods of access; See instructions below: BUDGET WORKSHOP AUGUST 10, 2021 ]
OF US, THE TIME SO WE ALL KNOW GOT 9:06.JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT ONLINE OR IN THE COURTROOM. I DON'T SEE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
CONNIE IS GOING TO CHECK THE HALLWAY.
I DON'T SEE ANYBODY RAISING THEIR HANDS.
NO PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME. THEN WE'LL PROCEED RIGHT INTO THIS BUDGET WORKSHOP. DALE JUST PASSED OUT NEW PAPERWORK FOR US TO GO OVER. I AM GOING TO LET DALE HAVE HIS PLEASURE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM COMMISSIONERS FIRST ABOUT ALL THE ITEMS OR BELIEVE IT WOULD BE MORE PRUDENT TO GO THROUGH THE ITEMS YOU JUST PASSED OUT.
MIGHT HAVE CHANGED THINGS. >> LET ME GO THROUGH THE
LET'S START WITH YOU, DALE. >> BASICALLY, HANDOUT I GAVE YOU
>> YES. THESE ARE THE RATES WE PROVIDED LAST COMMISSIONER'S COURT AUGUST 2ND.
CALCULATION ERRORS AND APPRAISAL PUT IN INCORRECTLY.
THAT WAS SOME OF THE NEW PROPERTY THEY RECORDED AS REGULAR PROPERTY. THIS IS A PROPERTY THEY RECEIVED FROM AN OUTSIDE VENDOR THAT DOES OUR -- DOES OUR EVALUATIONS FOR REFINERIES. THAT IS LAST NAME OF THE COMPANY PROVIDE INFORMATION. I BELIEVE THE ADDITIONAL NEW PROPERTIES 150 MILLION DOLLARS. DEFINITELY INCREASED OUR BALANCES. SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GO BACK TO CALCULATION ON SECOND TO THE 2021 NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATES.
THAT CHANGED SLIGHTLY BECAUSE OF THE NEW PROPERTY.
NEW RATE. LAST YEAR, STATE PASSED A LAW THAT ALLOWS UNUSED INCREMENTS. HOSPITAL DISTRICTS CHANGED 0.16192. PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION TO MR. HIP. WE'LL BE GLAD TO GO OVER ANY ONE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. ON P3.
WE TALK ABOUT THE BALANCES. YOU'LL SEE NOW $64,233,417.
THAT IS WHERE OUR RATES DID CHANGE.
SAME THING FOR FARM TO MARKET AS WELL AS HOSPITAL DISTRICT.
NOW P6, PROPOSED NEW REVENUE HOW MUCH INCOME IF WE SO CHOOSE TO SELECT NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE. INCREASE OF $1,031,186 ON CALCULATION OF NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU. >> CAN YOU SAY THAT PART AGAIN.
I DON'T HAVE THAT HANDOUT. COMMISSIONER CANALES SHOULD BE
E-MAILING THAT TO YOU SHORTLY. >> PERFECT.
>> AGAIN, I SENT AN E-MAIL THIS MORNING TO ASK DALE TO MEET WITH ME ON PERSON TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS LINE ITEM BY LINE ITEM.
I READILY ADMIT I LOST TIME LAST WEEK.
I WILL GO THROUGH THIS LINE BY LINE THURSDAY.
TOMORROW WE'LL JUST BE SETTING A CEILING OF A RATE.
WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO ADOPT A RATE.
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P 7, IF WE SO CHOOSE TO DO THE HIGHEST RATE.OUR TAX RATE. THAT INCREASE OF 3.5 VOTER APPROVED RATE $3,850,978. NOW JUST TO DO THIS.
PRIOR YEAR'S TAX RATE LOWER THAN THREE AND A HALF.
LAST YEAR'S TAX RATE WITHOUT CHANGING ANYTHING, INCLUDING THE GENERAL FUND, DEBT SERVICE FUND AS WELL AS ROAD FUND.
VOTER APPROVED RATE. WE NEED THE MONEY IN THE ROAD FUND. IF WE DO LAST YEAR'S RATE GENERATE $3,725,861 IN REVENUE FOR THAT PARTICULAR TIME.
HIGHEST RATE VOTER APPROVED RATE.
ALL OF OUR UNUSED INCREMENTS. WE LOSE IT ALL.
EVEN IF WE USE 100TH OF A CENT FROM ANY BALANCES.
THIS IS IF WE USE 100% OF UNUSED INCREMENTS.
INCREASE ABOVE LAST YEAR'S TAX RATE.
THIS WOULD GENERATE $5,318,849. WE HAVE TWO SCENARIOS P10 AND P 11 FOR DEBT SERVICE. FULLY FUND WHAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO OUR REQUIREMENTS 0.472 ABOVE LAST YEAR'S RATE BRING IN $1,413,000 MORE. HOWEVER I DO NOT BELIEVE WE NEED THESE FUNDS. REQUIREMENTS 14.5 MILLION.
NO NEED TO BRING IN 15.3. WE CONTINUE OUR TAX RATE SAME RATE DEBT SERVICE. NO INCREASE.
WE SEE A SMALL INCREASE, $637,833 THIS WILL ALLOW US TO PAY 100% REQUIREMENTS SLIGHT USE OF UNUSED BUT NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. P 12 AND 13, FARM TO MARKET ONLY $5,003. THREE AND A HALF PERCENT ON P 13. BRINGS IN $53,707.
THAT IS VERY, VERY LOW AMOUNT FOR WHAT WE DO.
REST OF THE SCENARIOS FOR HOSPITAL VISIT.
WAIT UNTIL JOHNNY COMES UP HERE. ADDITIONAL INCREASES IF THEY SO CHOOSE NO NEW REVENUE TAX. THEN SCENARIOS THREE AND A HALF PERCENT. THEY ARE ALLOWED EIGHT PERCENT.
P 13. P 16 IS THE MAXIMUM EIGHT PERCENT. DIFFERENT SCENARIOS MR. HIP WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AND THOSE WILL BE PROVIDED WHEN JOHNNY BRINGS HIS SCENARIOS. THAT IS WHAT I NEW RATE IS.
PROJECTED REVENUES. THOSE CAN BE MODIFIED TO WHAT THE COURT SEEMS NECESSARY. MAIN THING YOU NEED TO LOOK AT, FIRST THING ON J1. J1 IS THE BUDGET CHALLENGES WE TALKED NEW POSITIONS AND LIMITED
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RECLASSIFICATIONS WE HAVE. DEFINITELY GO OVER THOSE.GETTING TO THE POINTED IN TIME WHERE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE FUNDS WE HAVE AVAILABLE WE CAN DO ANY OF IT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THE COURT IS WILLING TO DECIDE HOW WE DO IT.
ALL DEPENDS ON OUR COLLECTIONS OF OUR REVENUE AND HOW WELL WE MANAGE OUR EXPENSES. FOR EXAMPLE, COLLECTIONS 98% AND EXPENSES 92% AND CHOSE MAXIMUM ROLL BACK RATE, CAN STILL BREAK EVEN. DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT. WE ARE GLAD TO PUT ANY SCENARIOS YOU LIKE TO SEE. THEN WE CAN DETERMINE PROPOSED RATE WE DISCUSSED TOMORROW. GLAD TO GO OVER ANY NEW POSITIONS WE HAVE INCLUDED AS WELL AS RECLASSIFICATIONS TO MODIFY THIS AND TRY TO REDUCE OUR COSTS.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY SOME OF THESE KNOWN EXPENSES WE HAD TO HAVE 2.7 MILLION UNLESS YES WANTED TO USE OUR RESOURCES WE CAN'T PAY FOR IT WITH THE NEW REVENUE TAX OF 1 MILLION.
>> EXCELLENT SUMMARY. >> MAY I ASK A GENERAL QUESTION,
DALE? >> CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT IS THE PROPOSED NEW GENERAL REVENUE FUND THAT IS NOT EVALUATIONS INCREASES AGAIN, JUST NEW -- GROWTH AS I CALL IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS THE RIGHT WORD.
>> YES, LET'S SEE UM -- >> APPROXIMATELY 650 MILLION.
WE ARE GOING TO GET YOU THE RIGHT NUMBER.
HANG ON. >> NEW PROPERTY OF -- HIGHER THAN LAST WEEK. LAST WEEK 425,000.
THERE WAS AN ERROR WHEN THEY RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM THE
OUTSIDE. >> STILL NOT AS GOOD AS I WAS HOPING. THAT NUMBER LAST WEEK SHOCKED ME. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
THAT NUMBER GENERATES. >> $1,031,000.
>> WE DIDN'T HAVE REVENUE LAST WEEK.
ALL WE PROVIDED WAS JUST THE RATES.
WE DIDN'T INCLUDE INCREASE IN REVENUE.
WE PROPOSED SMALL CALCULATION ANYWHERE FROM 400,000 TO $500,000 TO $600,000. 1 1 $103,186,000 -- --
>> THAT IS THE $1,031,186 REPRESENTS NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT REMEMBER THE THE OLD WAY, THAT IS THE EFFECTIVE.
AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WOULD BE GENERATED FROM WHAT YOU AND I KNOW AS THE THREE AND A HALF PERCENT WHICH IS THE RATE WE CALL THE VOTER-APPROVED RATE, REVENUE CAP THAT IS 3.8 MILLION DOLLARS AND CHANGE. IF YOU HAD THE UNUSED TAX INCREMENT, THAT WOULD BE ON P9, THAT IS THE $5,318,849 AND FINAL ONE TAX RATE LAST YEAR. THAT TURNS OUT TO BE 3.3989.
LITTLE UNDER 3 .5. OF COURSE --
>> CAN YOU CHECK YOUR E-MAIL? I SENT THOSE OUT.
>> THANK YOU. THAT REALLY HELPS.
YEAH. THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED WITH THE PERCENTAGES.
OF COURSE LAST THING TO SUMMARIZE IF YOU ADD ALL THE STARS UP ON J1, THEN THOSE STARS EQUAL 2.715 MILLION DOLLARS.
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THOSE ARE JUST THE STARS. JUST THOSE STARS.WHAT WE'LL DO NOW IS JUST START OUR DISCUSSION.
OPEN IT UP. >> I'LL PROVIDE SMALL SCENARIOS ON K1, K3 AND K5 SHOW YOU SAME SCENARIO.
SHOWING YOU OUR CHALLENGES. KNOWN REVENUES AND EXPENSES.
K 2 SHOWS YOU WE WOULD HAVE A DEFICIT OF 3.8 MILLION DOLLARS IN OUR GENERAL FUND. K3, IF WE DO THE PRIOR YEAR, TAX RATE, 3.42 PERCENT. WE'LL SEE THE SAME NUMBERS.
K4, YOU'LL SEE LAST YEAR'S PRIOR RATE, PROPOSED AGAIN WE WOULD HAVE TO SEE PROJECTED REVENUE EXPENSES 98, 92 OF THOSE VARY DOWN OR UP. DEFICIT 1.2 MILLION.
IF WE DO K5, THREE AND A HALF PERCENT APPROVAL RATE.
K6, THAT WOULD BE $1,100,000 AGAIN DEFICIT ON FUND BALANCE.
SCENARIO WITH ALL USE OF 100% USE OF UNUSED INCREMENT BALANCES. K8.
IF WE SO CHOOSE MAXIMUM ROLL BACK RATE PLUS UNUSED COLLECTION PERCENT 98%, THESE WILL CHANGE. IN THE PAST WE HAVE BEEN 92 PERCENT. THIS LAST YEAR, 86.
THAT COULD BE 90-91% DEFINITELY INCREASE.
IF WE DO THE SAME SCENARIO, LAST YEAR'S REVENUE COLLECTION OF 95%. WE AGAIN FALL TO THIS REVENUE.
I AM SEEING THAT WE ALMOST HAVE TO USE THE VOTER APPROVED RATE WITH UNUSED INCREMENTS. WE'LL LEAVE THIS TO THE COURTS
DECISION. >> THAT IS YOUR BEST RECOMMENDATION? WE'LL GO DOWN THE LINE.
COMMISSIONER CHESNEY DOESN'T HAVE BENEFIT YET.
HE IS ABOUT TO GET THEM BY E-MAIL.
COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT AFTER HEARING DALE'S RECOMMENDATIONS WITH REGARDS TO THE NO NEW REVENUE, VOTER APPROVED REVENUE AND HIS RECOMMENDATION FOR VOTER
APPROVED AND UNUSED INCREMENT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE.
>> BECAUSE OF THE MIC. THERE YOU GO.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO LISTEN TO SOME MORE DISCUSSION.
>> OKAY. SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ONE
WAY OR ANOTHER AT THIS MOMENT. >> THAT IS CORRECT, JUDGE.
>> COMMISSIONER MAREZ? >> UM, I HAVE SOME PRIORITIES, I THINK THERE ARE POSITIONS WE NEED TO FILL WITH OUR BUDGET AND BUDGET REQUESTS COME THIS YEAR. I AM ALSO OPEN TO ANY PERCENTAGE, I THINK ONCE WE GET DOWN INTO THE WEEDS AND REALLY WORK OUT OUR DISCUSSION. I FEEL THERE IS SOME ROOM THAT WE HAVE THAT WE CAN GET UP TO THE 3.5 OR ANYTHING BELOW THAT.
I AM ABLE TO LIVE WITH THAT. NOW THAT WILL HELP US SHAPE WHERE WE ARE AT AS FAR AS BUDGET REQUESTS.
DISTRICT ATTORNEY, AND THIS EQUIPMENT AND ALL THESE OTHER ITEMS WE HAVE HAD REQUESTED. I AM ABLE TO GO ANY DIRECTION.
I THINK WE ARE GOING TO FIND OURSELVES SOME WHERE IN BETWEEN 3.5 IN THE UNUSED. THAT IS WHERE I AM NOT.
NOTHING SPECIFIC. I WANT TO HIT MAJOR REQUESTS.
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE I KNOW THERE IS A COLA THAT IS
>> I AM SO SORRY. >> WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP THAT ALL IN MIND AS WE WORK FORWARD ON ALL THIS.
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>> I AM LOOKING AT DIFFERENT POSITIONS I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND YOU KNOW, IF WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT POSITIONS I AM NOT EVEN LOOKING AT RECLASSIFICATIONS.
I ASKED FOR INFORMATION, DALE, COUPLE OF TIMES AND HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT IN REFERENCE TO PERCENTAGES.
>> YOU NEVER ASKED ME. >> WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT ME WHEN
I MET WITH YOU -- >> THE HR DIRECTOR SHOULD BE
PROVIDING YOU WITH THAT. >> SANDRA SENT YOU SOMETHING,
ALSO. >> I THINK I MET WITH SOMEBODY ELSE, MY OFFICE. WE NEED TO 5% FROM THE 29 ABOVE.
8% AND 7% FROM THE 28 DOWN TO 11 SEE WHAT THE PERCENTAGE WOULD BE. PROBABLY WHAT IT WOULD BE IF WE DO ACROSS THE BOARD, 7%. THOSE ARE THE THINGS I NEED BEFORE I MAKE ANY DECISIONS ON ANYTHING.
AND REALLY, I AM LOOKING NO NEW TAX.
NO NEW REVENUE, BUT I NEED TO KNOW WHAT -- BEFORE I EVEN MAKE A DECISION. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, LIFE GUARD, THERE IS ASSESSMENT, METRO COM, THE -- THE LIFE GUARD RISK ASSESSMENT, THAT WOULD BE UNDER -- ALSO DISPUTE, LAWSUIT. DIDN'T WE SET ASIDE MONEY LAST YEAR FOR THAT? EVERY YEAR WE SET ASIDE MONEY LOOKS LIKE. MONEY SHOULD BE THERE, RIGHT?
>> WE HAVE NOT SET MONEY ASIDE FOR THAT BUT AN EVALUATION DISPUTE. RELIABILITY IN OUR BOOKS FOR PROPERTY DISPUTE. IT IS NOT 1.1 MILLION.
CLOSER TO 400-500,000. RIGHT NOW, WE PROBABLY HAVE IN YOUR BOOKS $500,000 TIED IN. 400,000-$500,000 CURRENT LIABILITY THEN I NEED ADDITIONAL $600,000.
>> THAT IS HOW HIGH THE LAWSUIT WOULD INCREASE OUR CURRENT LIABILITY AND COUNTY ATTORNEY KNOWS OUR VALUES WE ASSESS.
MIGHT LEAVE THAT TO THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNTY
ATTORNEY. >> METRO COM, SAYS $546,000.
I THINK $264,000, RIGHT? DIDN'T YOU TALK ABOUT THAT LAST
TIME, ALSO? >> POSSIBILITY AND NOW WORKING ON WHETHER WE CAN OR CANNOT BE. STILL DON'T KNOW THAT YET.
THERE IS A CHANCE IT CAN BE. SEVERAL PEOPLE RESEARCHING THIS AND WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT TREASURY TO SEE IF THESE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE. THESE ARE INCREASES FOR OUR 911 PROGRAM AND OUR RADIO SITUATIONS.
HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES GOVERNMENT CHANCE IT CAN BE.
CAN'T SAY 100%. BEARS A CHANCE.
>> BECAUSE IF IT DOES, I GUESS THAT WOULD KIND OF BRING DOWN OUR EXPENSE, RIGHT? WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
>> THOSE FUNDS ARE NOT IN THE 2.7 MILLION.
Z >> WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM. THAT WOULD BE A SAVINGS FOR US
DOWN THE RIGHT. >> DA'S OFFICE AND ATTORNEYS.
I AM NOT AGREEABLE. THIS IS PROBABLY THE SYSTEM 1%, 2%. I WOULDN'T EVEN IMAGINE SOMEBODY GETTING 1 OR 2%. OR EVEN 3 NOW.
THIS IS WHY I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE PERCENTAGES.
I LIKE TO LOOK AT THEM. SEE WHAT IT COMES OUT TO.
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DEPENDS ON THE POSITION. I HAVE A LIST.I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT IT NOW OR LATER.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE ARE GOING TO BRING THOSE UP.
I MADE MY OWN LIST AS FAR AS ON THE POSITIONS, TAKING OUT LAW LIBRARY, COMMUNICATION, PIO. BUILDING BUT I IMAGINE BUILDING SUPERINTENDENT HVAC. THEN GO TO DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IT IS 515,000 GENERAL FUND, RIGHT?
>> YES. >> BUT IS THAT CONSIDERED NEW POSITIONS? OR TRANSFERS FROM A PREVIOUS --
>> TRANSFERS FROM NEW DEPARTMENT.
BUT THEY ARE NEW TO GENERAL FUND.
>> WE ARE TO CONSIDER NEW POSITIONS?
>> AGAIN THEY ARE NOT NEW. THEY ARE BEING TRANSFERRED.
THEY HAVE BEEN ASKED TO REPORT THIS AS CREATING NEW POSITION AND DELETING A NEW POSITION. THESE POSITIONS ALREADY EXIST.
THEY ARE JUST PAID SOME WHERE ELSE.
>> I SUPPORT THAT. I DON'T WANT TO INCLUDE THEM AS A NEW POSITION. BRINGS UP NUMBERS AT THE BOTTOM.
>> THAT IS HOW IT WAS ASKED TO REPORT IT.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHO ASKED YOU TO REPORT IT.
WHAT I LIKE TO KNOW, SEPARATE THAT.
IT IS NOT A NEW POSITION. IT IS TRANSFER POSITIONS.
I TOTALLY SUPPORT 515,000. MAYBE WE'LL GET IT BACK IN A YEAR MAYBE WE WON'T. I DON'T MIND SUPPORTING IT.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS DISTRICT CLERK, JUSTICE OF THE PEACE.
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. PREPARED PLANNER, ONE.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED THE RECOVERY SPECIALIST.
ENVIRONMENTAL ENFORCEMENT. YOU HAVE SENIOR CLERK AND CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. GOMEZ, WE INCLUDING ALSO THERE.
ISN'T IT GOING TO BE PAID BY GO
GOMEZ. >> IT IS DEPARTMENT 13.
DOESN'T HAVE EFFECT ON GENERAL FUND.
>> ADDED UP ON THE BOTTOM, RIGHT?
>> SPECIAL NEW FUNDS, PART OF THAT.
>> I AM SAYING IT ADDS TO THE TOTAL, RIGHT?
>> YES. DOES NOT ALREADY EXIST.
>> COMES OUT OF DIFFERENT FUNDS. >> CORRECT.
>> REALLY NOT A LOSS TO US, RIGHT?
>> HAS OWN REVENUE SOURCES. DOES NOT HAVE IMPACT ON GENERAL
FUND AT THIS TIME. >> CRIMINAL INVESTIGATORS, THAT IS FINE. NUECES COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SENIOR CLERK. VETERAN'S AGAIN THAT IS REALLY, I KNOW WE GET REIMBURSED, SUPPOSED TO GET THE MONEY UP FRONT. IF WE ARE, THAT SHOULD BE CATEGORY SEPARATE. NOT EFFECT OUR GENERAL FUND.
>> IT IS ON THE SAME LEVEL OF PROPOSED NEW FUNDS.
GENERAL FUND 982,000 OF 1.7 MILLION INCREASE.
ONLY 15 EMPLOYEES FOR THE GENERAL FUND.
>> VOTE RANS NOT CONSIDERED NEW EMPLOYEES?
>> THEY ARE NEW EMPLOYEES NOT GENERAL FUND EMPLOYEES.
>> SO WHAT YOU ARE TELLING ME, COUNTING FROM ABOVE THAT.
>> EVERYTHING ABOVE THOSE 1123 IS NOT GENERAL FUND.
>> THAT IS CONFUSING TO ME WHEN I SEE THE TOTALS.
I SAY WAIT A MINUTE. MAYBE IT IS NOT THAT HIGH.
BUT MAYBE. THAT IS THE THINGS I AM LOOKING AT NOW. I NEED THAT INFORMATION TO SEE WHICH WAY I AM GOING TO GO. I WOULD RATHER MAKE SURE ALL THE EMPLOYEES ARE TAKEN CARE OF THAN JUST A CERTAIN FEW EMPLOYEES.
THAT IS MY OBSERVATION RIGHT NOW.
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COMMISSIONER. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CHC CHESNEY?
>> DALE, COULD YOU RESTATE YOUR RECOMMENDATION?
>> MY CURRENT PROPOSAL BASED ON REQUIRED 2.7 MILLION DOLLAR INCREASE TO KNOWN BUDGET CHALLENGES WHAT THAT REVENUE WILL BRING IN THREE AND A HALF PERCENT.
THAT VALUE 0.263219. >> WHAT PAGE?
>> THAT IS THE INCREASE? >> GENERAL FUND INCREASE RIGHT ABOUT 0.007. 008 INCREASE FROM CURRENT RATE.
CURRENT RATE 0.31183. WE ARE USING DEBT SERVICE FULLY
FUNDED. >> FOR OUR CURRENT RATE 0.001 OR VERY, VERY SMALL WHEN WE GO FROM ADOPTED RATE TO CURRENT RATE
WHAT IS THAT DIFFERENCE? >> OKAY.
THANK YOU. I AM GOING TO WAIT AND MEET WITH
DALE ON THURSDAY. >> I WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO MEET
BE YOU TOO, DALE. >> ANYTHING ELSE TO PRESENT?
>> PROVIDE UPDATED SCHEDULE OF NEW POSITIONS.
EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS GRANTS WILL PAY THIS AND GRANTS.
GRANT TOTALS, 15 EMPLOYEES OF PROPOSED NEW POSITIONS.
WE HAVE PROPOSED FUNDING FROM DISTRICT ATTORNEY.
PROPOSED IMPACT OF GENERAL FUND $518,466.
USED TO PASS THESE POSITIONS. OPERATING FUND ONE POSITION.
>> SORRY, WHAT POSITIONS DO YOU HAVE CAN YOU READ THEM OFF?
>> COMMUNICATIONS, TITLE REJECTION CLERK.
BUILDING WORKERS FOR SHERIFF. SENIOR CLERK AS WELL AS ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER, THOSE TALCAHUANO -- TOTAL 15 POSITIONS. PRIOR YEAR FOR AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE AS THEY ASKED TO DO. TOTALLY FUNDING 13 NEW POSITIONS, $514,466.
>> THAT IS INCLUDING 515,000? >> YES.
SO ALL TOGETHER 515,000. >> FOR GENERAL FUND.
>> OPERATING FUND, 49,000. SPECIAL REVENUE FUND INCLUDES SECURITY CRIMINAL INVESTIGATORS, SENIOR CLERK AND ALL BALANCES FROM VETERAN'S CEMETERY, 17 POSITIONS, LOOKING TO REMOVE SIX. TOTAL COST 252.
300. MOVE THOSE TO THE GRANTS.
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89,000, 1773586.DO A COST OF $1,773,586 AND SUBTRACT BALANCES.
WE ARE RIGHT AT A MILLION 2. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY TOTAL PROPOSED TAX RATE 0.311716 INCLUDES GENERAL FUND WITH THE UNUSED INCREMENT, DEBT SERVICE PRIOR YEAR RATE AND ROAD FUND AT MAXIMUM ROLL BACK. SO AGAIN PROPOSED 2021-2022 TAX
RATE 0.311716. >> WHAT IS THE CURRENT ONE,
LISA? >> CURRENT RATE IS 0.311483.
>> DIFFERENCE OF THOSE IS: 0.3112 INCREASE.
>> IF I MAY REMIND THE COURT ON THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AGENDA TOMORROW, WE HAVE ITEM TO RECEIVE UPDATED CALCULATIONS OF NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE, VOTER APPROVED TAX RATE, AND FUND BALANCES FOR NUECES COUNTY, NUECES COUNTY FARM TO MARKET AND DISTRICT. ITEM AFTER THAT IS TO ACTUALLY CONSIDER THE UPDATED PROPOSAL FOR 2021-2022 TAX RATE NUECES COUNTY AND COURT ASKED TO TAKE A RECORD VOTE AND AUTHORIZE PUBLISHING APPROPRIATE NOTICES IF NECESSARY.
>> FOR TOMORROW. >> THAT IS TOMORROW.
>> THESE NUMBERS, DALE, THIS IS NOT INCLUDING THE REQUEST SENT OUT EARLIER AS FAR AS THE COLA THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE?
>> I'LL GET THE INFORMATION TO THE COMMISSIONERS.
>> BUT FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR, BUDGET YOU ARE DELIVERING, IS FOUR OR FIVE PLACES OVER BEFORE WE EVEN SEE A CHANGE IS
THAT CORRECT? >> BIGGEST HIT WHAT WE SAW IS BANK OF AMERICA DEBT SERVICE WE WENT OUT FOR ABM SUBTRACT 1.5 MILLION DOLLARS, ABOUT WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR.
>> SO FROM AND I KNOW THE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO CHANGE, HOPEFULLY NOT SIGNIFICANTLY, IF THE COLA GETS ADDED IN.
I HAVE NEVER SEEN A BUDGET PROPOSED THIS CLOSE TO A PREVIOUS YEAR. TO ME, I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING THIS CLOSE. I'LL THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK: WE'LL SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE END.
THIS IS VERY GOOD WORK. HOW MANY 0000 IS IT FOUR 0S?
>> I KNOW THOSE -- IT IS ABOUT AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN GET FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR. I KNOW IT IS RELATIVE THERE ARE OTHER NUMBERS AT PLAY BUT THIS IS VERY PROMISING FOR ME.
AT LEAST TO SEE WE ARE THIS CLOSE TO OFFERING THE LIST THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, AND HOPEFULLY LIKE I SAID THE COLA SEE WHAT
THAT WILL LOOK LIKE FOR US. >> HE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT
RECLASSIFICATIONS, EITHER. >> AT LEAST WE HAVE SO WHERE TO GO ON THIS. I THINK WE ARE CLOSE.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR DALE? I KNOW THE JUDGE HAD TO STEP OUT. I DON'T KNOW IS SHE COMING BACK
TYNER? >> IF WE WANT TO BRING JOHN UP FOR THE HOSPITAL. WE HAVE TO PROPOSE A RATE.
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REQUIRES DIFFERENT PUBLICATIONS AND NOTICES.LET'S GIVE HIM TIME. GAVE HIM A FEW SCENARIOS.
MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GIVE HIM EVERYTHING HE NEEDS.
I RECOMMEND WE LET JOHNNY GIVE YOU HIS PRESENTATION ON WHERE HE BELIEVES THE POSITION IS FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND WHERE IT IS ALL GOING AND WHERE WE CAN DETERMINE WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING SO WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION AS WELL.
>> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. >> MORNING.
>> COMMISSIONER MAREZ CAN I PROCEED?
>> YES, GO AHEAD. >> COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE HANDOUTS. ALSO, CONNIE IS GOING TO PUT THEM UP ON THE SCREEN. CONNIE, IF YOU COULD WITH MY HAND OUTS GO TO PAGE FIVE. ROTATE IT IF YOU COULD.
SO COMMISSIONERS, I WANTED TO START ON PAGE 5 OF MY PRESENTATION TO SHOW YOU A BACKGROUND WHAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT IS WORKING UP AGAINST. I AM GOING BACK TO PAGE ONE AND TALK ABOUT OUR PROPOSE FOR THE TAX RATE WE ASK YOU ALL TO CONSIDER AND WHAT IT COVERS. AS YOU CAN SEE HOSPITAL DISTRICT HAS BEEN DEFICIT SPENDING FOR SOME YEARS AND FUTURE YEARS, WE EXPECT DEFICIT SPENDING TO GET WORSE IF YOU WILL OR TO CONTINUE. DEFICIT SPENDING, THEY ARE ALL PROJECTIONS. THEY ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE DEPENDING ON OUR INDIVIDUAL EXPENSES.
GREEN LINE SHOWS WHAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICTS CONSOLIDATED FUND BALANCE WOULD BE AS IT TRENDS TOWARDS 2027.
IN SHORT, 2027, DISTRICT WOULD HAVE A FUND BALANCE, SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASED FROM TODAY.
SO WITH THAT SAID, THEN THE RED LINE BELOW BASICALLY INDICATED HOW MUCH OF A DEFICIT SPENDING WE ARE PROJECTING.
THESE ARE ESTIMATES AND SUBJECT TO CHANGE AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE YEARS WITH THE INDIVIDUAL BUDGETS.
CONNIE, IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO PAGE ONE.
SO WITH THIS PAGE, COMMISSIONERS, DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO COLUMN ONE, YELLOW COLUMN.
BUDGET WE ARE PROPOSING FOR NEXT YEAR WOULD INCLUDE TAX RATE WE HAD, 111824 RATE ENJOY THE BENEFIT OF INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES AT THAT RATE. SO IF THAT IS THE COMFORT OF THE COURT. WHAT THAT BUDGET WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IS BRING THE DISTRICT'S BUDGET IF YOU'LL LOOK DOWN INTO ROW 26. ALMOST BREAK EVEN.
I KNOW A DEFICIT OF 1.7 COMPARED TO WHAT THE DISTRICT'S DEFICIT HAS BEEN THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT.
WITH THAT BUDGET IN THE YELLOW COLUMN, WE HAVE INCLUDED A DEDUCTION IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE TO ACCOUNT FOR VALERO AS DALE MENTIONED IN HIS PRESENTATION.
1.5 MILLION AS DEDUCTION FROM PROPERTY TAX REV NUCHLT -- REVENUE NUMBER MIGHT BE HIGH. SO IF HYPOTHETICALLY, THERE WAS NOT THE HOLD BACK OR DEDUCTION OF REVENUE, DISTRICT'S BUDGET CLOSE TO BREAK EVEN FIRST TIME IN MANY YEARS.
REASON ALSO FOR THAT IS NOT SO MUCH FOR THE VALERO DEDUCTION, MORE TO DO WITH THE DISTRICT WAS ABLE TO CONTAIN EXPENDITURES COMPARED TO BUDGET. ALSO ENJOYS REVENUE FROM WHAT THE COURT GAVE WAS ALLOWED THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO HAVE LAST YEAR. SO I THINK WE HAD A SITUATION 3% INCREASE IN REVENUE TO THE DISTRICT.
THOSE FUNDS WERE USED TO OFFSET PROGRAMS THAT THE DISTRICT STARTED UP. SO WITH THE YELLOW COLUMN, IN OUR COUNTY EXPENDITURES ALLOW THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO FINISH OUT FUNDING OUT FUNDING OF THE MENTAL HEALTH DISTRICTS
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UNDERWAY. INCLUDE FUNDING TO WORK.HOSPITAL DISTRICT PICKING UP THE FUNDING FOR THAT DEPARTMENT.
AT THAT TAX RATE IT WOULD BE ABLE TO SATISFY SATS TOIR OBLY KWAGSS, TAKE CARE OF JAIL HEALTH CARE AND EXPECTED COSTS FROM HAVING TO ASSURE MEDICAL FOR PRISONERS HOUSED OUTSIDE THE COUNTY. SO COMMISSIONER MAREZ THAT IS HIGH LEVEL OF YOU, BUDGET WE HAVE IN THE YELLOW COLUMN.
MOVES US FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MANY YEARS VERY CLOSE TO BREAK EVEN. BENEFIT OF TAX INCREASE NEED TO PROBABLY ADJUST GOING FORWARD VALERO RESERVE WE ARE GOING TO CARRY THERE. COMMISSIONERS, THAT IS WHAT I HAVE AT THE MOMENT. I WOULD SAY THIS BUDGET HAS NOT BEEN CIRCULATED TO THE BOARD YET.
WE WANTED TO GET OVER HERE QUICKLY AND GOT THIS IN FRONT OF
YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU, JOHNNY.
>> I THINK IT IS SOBERING TO KNOW DEFICIT IS THERE AND NOT GOING AWAY. YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR OWN ACTION AND RECOGNIZE Y'ALL HAVE HELPED US CARRY THE AGENDA IN RESPONSE TO COVID. WE COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT YOU. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING SUCH A
LEAN BUDGET FORWARD. >> THANK YOU TDALE.
COUPLE OF SPEAKERS, SCOTT CROSS THAT WANTS TO SPEAK.
>> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PAGE M 1.
SHOWED THE POSITION. THERE IS CONFUSE THERE.
I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP. FULLY FUNDED FTE BY THE GENERAL FUND AND WE WOULD -- I WOULD RECLASSIFY THAT AND GET WHAT WE WANT. IT HAS NO IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND. I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION. I PLAN ON KEEPING THE ONE VACANT TO EASE STRAIN ON OUR BUDGET AND DEAL WITH THE TWO RIGHT NOW.
>> SCOTT ON THE QUESTIONS, YOU REQUESTED ANOTHER POSITION UNDER DEPARTMENT 180 FOR NATURAL RESOURCES.
180 TO 1307. YOU DO NOT REQUIRE TWO POSITIONS
NATURAL RESOURCE IN 180, I WAS TRYING TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT SALARY ON THAT POSITION. THEN FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD, WHEN I TALKED ABOUT WITH TERESA AND VISITED WITH YOU, IS THAT I WOULD WORK WITH JULIE ON RECLASSIFYING IT AND MOVING IT ALL UNDER GO MESA TO PUT IT UNDER GRANT FUNDS.
ONE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE. ALWAYS BEEN AN APPROVED POSITION IN GO MESA. I AM TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THE TWO. YES, I DID PROPOSE THAT IN MY BUDGET TO HAVE PHYSICAL IMPACT IN 180.
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THEN IT WAS DISCUSSED WE WOULD MOVE IT UNDER GO MESA TO HELP WITH THE BUDGET ISSUES. DO THAT AND SEE WHERE WE ARE AT LATER ON. AM I MAKING SENSE?>> WE CAN TAKE THAT OUT FOR 1307.
WHEN YOU SUBMITTED 180. ON TOP OF THE TWO YOU HAVE.
>> YES, SIR, YES, SIR, YES, SIR. I DID THAT.
THAT WAS ONE OF MY, I GUESS FOR LACK OF BETTER WORDS ONE OF MY WISHES AND BEST CASE SCENARIO. NATURAL ONE AND NATURAL RESOURCES ONE WOULD BECOME AN FTE.
I NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THE TWO AND NOT WORRY ABOUT THE ONE, LEAVE IT VACANT FOR NOW. NOT TRY TO MOVE IT TO FTE.
THERE ARE QUESTIONS HOW MUCH THAT ONE IS WARRANTED WITH THE TWO FILLING DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
I THOUGHT WE WOULD LEAVE IT ALONE.
I THOUGHT WE WOULD TAKE THAT OUT.
AND ADJUST THE TWO AND RESOURCE SPECIALISTS, TOO, COMMISSIONERS, THEN WE WOULD FUND IT FROM GO MESA SO THERE IS NO IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND. I STILL HAVE TO WORK FROM JULIE ON THE RECLASSIFICATION KNOWING THE PHYSICAL IMPACT IS IN GO MESA AND NOT 180. NOT 182 AND NOT THE GENERAL
REMOVE THAT POSITION FROM THE REQUESTS FROM GO MESA.
IF YOU WANT TO INCREASE ONE FOR RESOURCES TWO, BRING THAT TO COMMISSIONERS FOR RECLASSIFICATION.
WE CAN STILL INCLUT THAT, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION NOW.
>> I WAS TRYING TO DO STEP INCREASES.
>> I AM EXCEPT, I TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT AS WE GO ALONG.
THAT IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN WORKING OFF OF TO DROP MY NOTES OFF TO YOU ON FRIDAY. IF YOU ARE GOING TO FUND WITH GRANT MONEY. I'LL DO WHATEVER YOU WANT ME TO DO. THAT IS THE ONES I WANT TO STAND FAST ON. IF I CAN GET NO IMPACT TO THE FUND. SHOULD BE A GREAT COMPROMISE.
>> RESOURCE SPECIALIST TWO. YOU PAYING 60%, PUBLIC WORKS, 40%. IF THAT IS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO TRY TO INCREASE SALARY. YOU NEED TO BRING THE COURT TO INCREASE SALARY. PROBABLY JUSTIFIABLE TO DO THAT.
WORK WITH COMMISSIONERS. IT IS SPLIT FUNDED BETWEEN YOU
AND PUBLIC WORKS. >> HE WANTS TO RECLASSIFY AND
MOVE IT OVER TO GO MESA. >> THAT IS WHAT HE TALKING ABOUT. RIGHT NOW SPLIT FUNDING.
>> HE WANTS TO MOVE IT INTO GO MESA FULL TIME, RIGHT?
>> I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. Y'ALL ARE ASKING ME TO DO THAT.
>> WHY IS PUBLIC WORKS FUNDING HALF OF IT?
>> BEACH MANAGEMENT. >> THIS PERSON DID A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS. WHAT JUAN NEEDS TO DO PERMITS.
>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ NATURAL RESOURCE SPECIALIST TWO POSITION PROCESSES ALL OF OUR PERMIT REQUESTS.
WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUILD OUT ON THE ISLAND RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROPER PROCEDURES OF REQUESTING PERMITS APPROVED BY THE STATE WHICH BECOME BASICALLY
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LEGAL BINDING DOCUMENTS. THERE IS A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE DO RIGHT TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE BEACH AND DUNE RULES AND OPEN BEACHES ACT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. THAT IS WHAT THAT POSITION DOES AS WELL AS OTHER NATURAL RESOURCE PROGRAMS AND GRANTS FOR COASTAL PARKS. ESSENTIALLY ALL DUNE PERMITTING IS UNDER COASTAL PARKS. WE HAVE ISOLATED IT AND DOING IT ALL UNDER COASTAL PARKS RIGHT NOW.THAT IS WHY I DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM BY MOVING IT OVER TO GO MESA AND KEEPING IT FULLY FUNDED THERE.
THIS IS A WORST CASE SCENARIO. IT WAS ORIGINALLY, TWO POSITIONS APPROVED THROUGH GO MESA. Y'ALL APPROVED IT THROUGH FTE.
WE DID THAT. BUT SINCE EVERYTHING IS NOW LIVING AT COASTAL PARKS WITH DUNE PERMITTING.
I AM OKAY WITH WHAT WAS PROPOSED TO MOVE IT UNDER GO MESA AND RECLASSIFY IT. ALWAYS A RISK.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN ONE DAY IF GO MESA MYSTERIOUSLY WENT AWAY.
>> I AGREE WITH YOU, I THINK IT SHOULD BE UNDER GO MESA IF YOU ARE DOING ALL THE PERMITS. IF IT IS GOING TO GO AWAY, SOMETHING WE HAVE TO BRING BACK TO THE TABLE.
ALL RIGHT. I NOTICED THAT ON THE REQUESTS.
I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. I AM TRYING TO HELP.
I AM TRYING TO SAVE MONEY. >> WE APPRECIATE IT.
>> TRYING TO EASE CONSTRAINTS ON ANYTHING I WOULD ASK FOR AND USE FUNDING SOURCES I HAVE. THAT IS ALL I AM TRYING TO DO.
>> THANK YOU. >> SHE HAS A POSITION NOT ON HERE DO WE NEED TO PUT IT ON HERE, DALE? PAYS FOR ITSELF. WE ARE NOT LOOKING AS FAR AS ANY
FUND INCREASES OR ANYTHING. >> THERE ARE SEVERAL ACTUALLY.
I SPOKE TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS.
THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING ME. I SPOKE TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS INDIVIDUALLY. I WANT TO GET RID OF A POSITION WE NO LONGER NEED. AND USE THOSE MONEYS TO STAFF INCREASES WITHIN MY OFFICE. IT IS NOT GOING TO HURT THE GENERAL FUND AT ALL. IT IS FUND NEUTRAL.
I DON'T KNOW MAYBE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T YOU KNOW, MESS WITH THE GENERAL FUND IT WASN'T SUBMITTED OR I AM NOT SURE.
I KNOW I SPOKE TO DALE HE SAID HE REMOVED IT.
HE WAS TOLD TO REMOVE IT SO IT WASN'T PRESENTED.
>> THEY WERE PROVIDED INFORMATION TAB G.
TOTAL RECOMMENDED REQUESTS WHICH WERE INCLUDED.
YOURS INCLUDED IN THOSE REQUESTS FOR I BELIEVE I IS YOUR RECLASSIFICATIONS. WE WERE REQUESTED TO REMOVE THE ONES FOR THE COUNTY CLERK, DISTRICT CLERK, COASTAL PARKS.
HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT REQUESTING PROPOSAL TO DO PHASE 3 OF OUR SALARY REIMBURSEMENTS. DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE DISTRICT CLERK, A LOT OF THE STUFF FOR SENIOR CLERKS SENIOR SERVICES NOT THERE. A LOT OF THE OF OTHER SENIOR POSITIONS, YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE NOT INCLUDED AS A RECOMMENDATION WORKING WITH HR TO DO PHASE THREE OF THE RE-EVALUATION. REQUESTED THOSE REMOVED.
THAT IS WHY IT WAS REMOVED. >> I SPOKE WITH JULIE.
SHE SAID THAT WAS NOT THE CASE JUST SO YOU KNOW.
>> SHE TOLD ME THAT LAST NIGHT.
>> MY REQUESTS FOR MY OFFICE. I AM NOT ASKING FOR MORE MONEY.
I HAVE GOTTEN RID OF A POSITION. I TRIED TO WORK WHERE I AM NOT ASKING FOR MORE MONEY. I KNOW WHAT MY OFFICE NEEDS.
AND THIS IS WHAT I AM REQUESTING.
RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING TO CONSIDER THIS.
AND THAT Y'ALL KNOW ABOUT IT. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HAS HIS HAND UP. I DON'T KNOW IF HE WANTS TO
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COMMENT. >> I AM GOING TO COME BACK TO THIS ONE. I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT DALE SAID. FIRST QUESTION WAS? DALE, REMIND ME ON THE 1.5 MILLION DOLLAR PAYMENT IS THAT, WE HAVE TO DO THAT EVERY YEAR OR IS THAT A ONE-TIME DEAL?
I CAN'T REMEMBER. >> LAST YEAR, Y'ALL CONTRACTED WITH ABM TO DO MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS TO THE FAIRGROUNDS AS WELL AS THE JUSTICE CENTER AND OTHER INFORMATION FOR ENERGY 'S SAVINGS, 35 MILLION DOLLARS. WE HAD 10 MILLION DOLLARS IN OUR CO DOLLARS. REQUIRED TO GO TO A LOAN BANK OF AMERICA, 25 MILLION DOLLAR LOAN. 1.5 MILLION EVERY YEAR NEXT 20
YEARS. >> THIS HAS TO GO INTO THE
BUDGET EVERY YEAR NEXT 20 YEARS? >> YES.
>> THIS WASN'T THE ONE COST SAVINGS INCLUDED IN ALL THIS WHERE IT WASN'T GOING TO COST US THE MONEY?
>> THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING TO JUSTIFY THE COST SAVINGS.
ALL THEY HAVE DONE IS PUT NEW CONCRETE PAVING.
THEY HAVE NOT DONE ANYWORK ON THE ROOFS OR QUALIFIES FOR SAVINGS. WE HOPE THEY WILL HAVE SAVINGS TO PAY FOR THIS AND SEE A REDUCTION IN EXPENSES FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS. RIGHT NOW, NOT AT THE MOMENT.
>> WASN'T THERE CONTRACT LANGUAGE IN ABM IF THESE SAVINGS WEREN'T COVERED THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE?
>> LET ME INTERRUPT FOR A SECOND.
CONSTRUCTION HASN'T BEEN COMPLETED YET.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN INSTALLED EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD BECOME PART OF THE SAVINGS. IN OTHER WORDS THE LIGHTING HAS NOT BEEN INSTALLED YET. IN OTHER WORDS WE ARE IN THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE NOT IN POST-CONSTRUCTION PHASE.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE NEW AIR LIGHTING, ROOFS, INSULATION, ALL OF THOSE IT IS A COMBO PACKAGE. OF COURSE WE HAD A THOROUGH READING OF ALL OF THIS SOME TIME AGO.
THERE WILL BE SAVINGS THEORETICALLY.
YES, YOU ARE RIGHT, CONTRACT LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY GUARANTEES A PAYMENT. YOU HAVE TO DO THE WORK BEFORE YOU GET SAVINGS. WE ARE NOT THERE YET.
>> IF THIS IS TEMPORARY SITUATION BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION NOT STARTING IS THIS A REAL NUMBER WE HAVE TO PUT IN OUR BUDGET OR MAKE A ONE-TIME PAYMENT AND FIGURE THIS OUT DOWN THE ROAD. WHEN WE ENGAGED IN THIS CONTRACT, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE THIS ADDITIONAL 1.5 MILLION DOLLAR PAYMENT WITHOUT AN OFFSET.
IF THIS IS JUST CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE-KIND OF THING, WHY WOULD WE PUT IT INTO THE BUDGET LONG-TERM AND NOT MAKE A ONE-TIME PAYMENT OUT OF CO'S OR OUT OF SOME WHERE INSTEAD OF PUTTING THIS IN A BUDGET FOREVER AND EVER.
THAT WOULD BE SENDING A SIGNAL WE DIDN'T THINK THERE WOULD BE
AN OFFSET WHICH I DO. >> I AGREE.
DALE'S COMMENT IS A WORST CASE SCENARIO.
WE ARE DEALING WITH THIS YEAR'S PAYMENT AND THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
THAT IS ALL WE ARE CONTEMPLATING RIGHT NOW.
>> IT IS A LOAN WE RECEIVED FROM BANK OF AMERICA.
1.5 EVERY YEAR FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME, YES.
>> RIGHT. BUT YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT PAYMENT AND OFFSET WOULD BE ANOTHER BUDGET ITEM.
>> WE CANNOT PAY DEBT SERVICE. WITH ANOTHER CERTIFICATION.
>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> TO ME THIS IS A WEIRD ITEM.
I GET IT IS GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING.
BUT THERE IS LANGUAGE IN THAT ABM CONTRACT.
I AM SAYING BEFORE WE GO DOWN THE PATH OF PLUGGING 1.5 NUMBER IN WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL DIFFERENT THINGS.
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DOESN'T SOUND LIKE, I DON'T THINK WE CONTEMPLATED WE WOULD BE HAVING TO ADD 1.5 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR TO OUR BUDGET.WE WOULD HAVE HAD A WHOLE LEVEL OF DIFFERENT DISCUSSION BEFORE APPROVING THIS CONTRACT. TODAY IS NOT THE DAY TO ARGUE.
I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THIS ITEM. IT IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE THINGS I AM LOOKING AT WITH ABM CONTRACT.
I DON'T THINK WE CONTEMPLATED THIS BEING IN HERE.
THIS MAKES A HUMONGOUS DIFFERENCE IN THIS BUDGET TO THE POINT OF I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH IT.
>> I HEAR YOU. I WANT TO POINT SOMETHING OUT.
WHEN WE WENT FOR FINANCING WE KNEW.
WHEN WE WENT OUT WITH RFP AND BANK OF AMERICA, WE ACCEPTED THEIR BID FOR FINANCING, THERE WAS A SCHEDULE OF PAYMENTS ATTACHED. THERE WAS ABSOLUTE EXPECTATION THOSE WOULD BE PAYMENTS THAT WOULD BE NEED TO BE MADE TO BANK
OF AMERICA. >> WITH AN OFFSET.
>> WE CAN CHANGE THAT NUMBER TO WHATEVER THE OFFSET MAKES IT.
I DON'T THINK THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
THAT IS ALSO CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION.
WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS. I DO WANT EVERYTHING TO KNOW IT IS NOT LIKE A SURPRISE. THAT SCHEDULE OF PAYMENTS IS
THERE. >> SURPRISE IS THE NET DIFFERENCE IN OUR BUDGET. WHAT I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE SEEN, I GET WE ARE IN THE TWEENER STAGE.
IT IS A NET WASH. SHOULDN'T BE IN THE BUDGET CHALLENGE. THEN THERE WOULD BE A BUDGET OFFSET. WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO RAISE 1.5 MILLION DOLLARS. WE HAVEN'T STARTED CONSTRUCTION.
THEREFORE MAY NEED TO LOOK AT THE CONTRACT AND GET THE OFFSET FROM THE ABM. I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE CONTRACT CLOSELY IN A WHILE. THAT IS AN AREA WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHEN WE ARE DOING BUDGETING, YES, WE KNEW THE PAYMENT WAS COMING. ALSO THOUGHT THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN OFFSET. I DON'T SEE IT ANYWHERE IN WHEREVER IT WOULD BE, REVENUE SIDE.
WHEREVER THAT WOULD BE PLUGGED IN.
I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT THE OFFSETS FOR FUTURE YEARS.
AS DALE SAID THERE IS WHEN YOU DO AN ENERGY SAVINGS PERFORMANCE CONTRACT. YOU DON'T GET TO TAKE FROM THE INS SIDE OF THINGS. JUST SO YOU KNOW, BRENT.
$630,000 PAYMENT WE ARE MAKING FOR JCI.
$621,000 PAYMENT. I HAD TO LEAVE THE -- I HAD AN EMERGENCY. I LEFT MY PAPERWORK.
THERE IS A JCI CONTRACT IN PLACE.
THAT IS HOW THINGS GET FINANCED WHEN THERE IS NOT ENOUGH ADD VELOUR RUM OR GO TO A CO IN THIS CASE.
OUR CO MET WITH INTEREST IN SYNCING FUND.
BUT THAT JCI CONTRACT ALSO BURDENING THE COUNTY.
IT HAS ENERGY SAVINGS COMPONENT TO IT AS WELL.
IN A PARTICULAR CONTRACTUAL SAVINGS.
IT IS A BURDEN THERE IS NO DOUBT.
IT IS A BURDEN LIKE EVERYTHING IS IS A BURDEN.
REAL SURPRISE IS THAT TAX ASSESSED VALUE FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION IS HALF OF WHAT IT SHOULD BE.
THAT IS PULLING DOWN A -- >> LITTLE SURPRISING.
BETTER THAN LAST WEEK. THAT NUMBER LAST WEEK SHOCKED ME
AS I SAID EARLIER. >> ME, TOO.
>> QUITE FRANKLY STILL SHOCKED ON THIS NUMBER.
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IT IS WHAT IT IS. I UNDERSTAND THAT.I'LL DIG MORE INTO THIS. I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP, DALE.
THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO GO THROUGH WITH YOU ON THURSDAY AND I CAN INCLUDE THE JCI CONTRACT.
I GUESS IN GENERAL TERMINOLOGY, DALE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND ALL WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ON THE RECLASSIFICATIONS COUNTY CLERK REQUESTED.
TRADITIONALLY ANY REVENUE NEUTRAL RECLASSIFICATION PRETTY MUCH BEEN GONE THROUGH WITH THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
I WOULD ANTICIPATE -- NOT SURE WHAT ALL YOU WERE EXPLAINING EARLIER. I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF REVENUE NEUTRAL RECLASSIFICATIONS BY ANY DEPARTMENT.
THAT IS SUPER GOOD AND CREATIVE. PLENTY OF THESE THINGS COME THROUGH. I AM CERTAINLY SUPPORTIVE OF
REVENUE RECLASSIFICATIONS. >> I ALSO WANT TO ADD THAT THERE ARE ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS ON YOUR J1 THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE BUDGET ASTERISKS.
THE LIFE GUARD SERVICES MANDATORY BY STATE.
WE AGAIN AS YOU SEE ON YOUR SCHEDULE J1 RISK ASSESSMENT.
YOUR INCREASE TO METRO COM. ALL OF THOSE WOULD QUALIFY FOR ARPA FUNDING. IF WE DID NOT HAVE THOSE FUNDS THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER ADDITIONAL MILLION DOLLARS.
WHILE THERE ARE BURDENS THAT ARE A CHALLENGE TO MEET, WE HAVE ALSO QUALIFIED ANOTHER MILLION THAT WE BELIEVE WE HAVE A RESOURCE TO GO TO. THAT IS LIFE GUARD SERVICES UNDER GOVERNMENT SERVICES WE COULD APPLY LOST REVENUES TOWARDS. RISK ASSESSMENT WE COULD QUALIFY IN BOTH CATEGORIES POTENTIALLY UNDER MENTAL HEALTH.
UNDER LOST REVENUES. AND ALSO THE WHAT WAS THE THIRD ONE? METRO COM SOFTWARE QUALIFIES UNDER BOTH AND PREMIUM PAY FOR THOSE FOLKS WORKING IN AN AREA WHERE COVID-19 CERTAINLY HAS A NEXUS.
I WANT TO POINT OUT IT COULD BE A LOT WORSE.
WE AT LEAST HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT ALMOST AN ALMOST DOLLARS IN. EVEN THOUGH I HAD TO LEAVE, I WANT TO ADDRESS VETERAN'S TREATMENT COORDINATOR.
THAT ONE I NEED TO SPEAK WITH JJ A LITTLE MORE.
I KNOW THE PARTICULAR COORDINATOR IN THE FIELD WORKING WITH HOME BOUND VETERANS DUE TO COVID THAT WOULD ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE FUNDED. I BELIEVE THATS TO THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE. AGAIN TRAGIC WE LOST THE GRANT.
WE CERTAINLY CAN'T BE WITHOUT THAT PARTICULAR POSITION, I DON'T BELIEVE WITHOUT IT HURTING OUR VETERAN POPULATION.
FINALLY THE CORE OF ENGINEERS PLAN OF 50,000.
I WANTED TO SPEAK WITH YOU, BRENT, MAYBE LATER ABOUT IDEAS YOU MIGHT HAVE THERE. THAT IS MAINLY TO DO A BEACH INCIDENT MANAGEMENT PLAN. I WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU TO FIGURE OUT WHAT RESOURCES MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TO FUND THAT.
THAT WOULD BE A COST SHARING. I BET WE COULD PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND FIGURE SOMETHING THERE.
LET ME JUST PRETEND IF YOU TOOK YOUR BANK OF AMERICA DEBT SERVICE OUT OR REDUCE TO ONE PAYMENT, WHICH BY THE WAY, I -- THAT MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY AS RESTRUCTURING POTENTIALLY.
THERE IS NO DOUBT WE HAVE TAKEN ANOTHER MILLION OFF THE BOOKS.
ON FAMILY DISPUTE LAWSUIT, THERE IS A MILLION DOLLARS WE TYPICALLY ESCROW. CERTAINLY LITIGATED HERE MOST
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RECENTLY THAT CAUSES US SOME CONCERN.ONE COULD ARGUE THAT YOU COULD CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN YOU CAME TO IT. THAT IS WHY IT IS SO CRITICAL TO BUILD YOUR CASH RESERVES. THERE ARE A LOT OF DOLLARS WE
COULD OFFSET. >> I KNOW IT IS ONE BUDGET.
YOU GET A MILLION DOLLAR PICK UP NEXT YEAR.
GOOD POINT ON BOUNDARY DISPUTE LAWSUIT.
THAT IS A GOOD POINT. I AM{F1}PI -- HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU. YOU TAKE THOSE BIG ITEMS OUT AND THIS BUDGET IS UNBELIEVABLY GOOD.
MAKES IT HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO.
I LOOK AT THESE OTHER THINGS AND DON'T SEE OBJECTIONABLE-TYPE OF SITUATIONS. MAYBE THAT WORKS.
MAYBE THAT DOESN'T. OBVIOUSLY ALSO OPTIONS THAT CAN REDUCE THE REQUIRED INCREASE IN THE BUDGET.
IF YOU COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH BOUNDARY DISPUTE, BANK OF AMERICA DEBT AND STICK THOSE IN THERE LEGITIMATELY, 2.7 IS
GOING TO GO WAY DOWN. >> WELL, THE ONLY REASON I AM NOT SURE, THERE IS NOTHING SURE IN LIFE ANYMORE.
I BELIEVE THE ONES YOU SEE THERE I HAVE HAD SO MANY CONVERSATIONS. JUST YESTERDAY AT THE MEETING, I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT WE SHOULD VOTE TO UTILIZE FOR THOSE THREE RIGHT THERE. AGAIN FILL OUT THE PAPER WORK
AND GET THAT PROCESS GOING. >> IF WE CAN TAKE THESE THINGS
>> AND GET THOSE GOING. I KNOW I DON'T.
I KNOW OTHER COMMISSIONERERS MIGHT WANT TO ADD THAT BACK IN.
IF THEY ARE ABLE TO GET THE THREE VOTES THEN WE REALLY HAVE BUDGET CHALLENGES. I AGREE IF THERE ARE WAYS TO AND WE ARE TOLD LEGALLY BY OUR LAWYERS AND AUDITORS WE CAN DO THAT. I SAY YES.
LET'S VOTE FOR THOSE FUNDS AND GET THEM OUT OF THE BUDGET CHALLENGES. THAT IS GOING TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE ON WHAT WE DO TOMORROW AND NEXT TWO OR THREE WEEKS AND DEAL WITH THE BOUNDARY LAWSUIT AND DEBT SERVICE AND SEE WHAT WE DO WITH THAT. THOSE FIVE BIG ITEMS, YOU SOME HOW ARE ABLE TO GET ALL OR MOST OF THAT OUT OF THE BUDGET REQUIREMENTS, THAT ALLOWS FOR COMMISSIONERERS TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO AND GET TO THE NO NEW TAX RATE.
>> I HOPE THIS DOESN'T BURST YOUR BUBBLE, I WANT TO REMIND YOU 2.7 IT IS NOT THE WHOLE LIST IT IS JUST THE TWO STARS.
IT WOULDN'T REDICE THE 2.7. THOSE ARE ALL IN ADDITION.
THAT 2.7 IS A MUCH HIGHER NUMBER.
IT IS REALLY 3.8 IF YOU PUT ALL OF THAT.
IT IS 3 -- IT IS A MUCH HIGHER NUMBER.
IF YOU ADDED ALL OF THAT TOGETHER, YOU ARE OVER FOUR
MILLION DOLLARS. >> YOU DON'T THINK WE CAN ADD ASSISTANT VETERAN'S TREATMENT TO HAR PA?
>> THAT IS WHAT I WAS SAYING, COMMISSIONER.
I BET IT IS POSSIBLE. ONLY WAY YOU CAN DO THAT IS IF IT FALLS INTO THE MENTAL HEALTH PIECE, WHICH I BET IT WOULD.
>> I THINK SO. >> I NEED TO FIND OUT MORE OF A DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND YOU KNOW.
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ANSWER IS I'LL GET BACK TO YOU TOMORROW.>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> ANSWER IS IT COULD BE.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION ON BANK OF AMERICA DEBT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THE PAYMENT EVERY YEAR? DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA.
DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA TO GET TO THAT POINT?
>> THERE WAS A PRESENTATION COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE ON THE BOILER'S AND THE JAIL WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION UNTIL AUGUST OF 2022.
>> LET ME EXPLAIN WHY THOSE ARE CALLED SPEC.
YOU BUILD FOR YOUR FACILITY PERMANENT GENERATORS TAKE 20 WEEKS TO COME IN. BUT THERE IS NO LAY AWAY YOU
HAVE TO PAY FOR IT IN ADVANCE. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.
WONDERING IF IT IS TOO LATE NOW. DELAY IT.
>> BUT THE PROBLEM IS, WE ARE NOT PAYING ABM ANYMORE.
WE ARE PAYING BANK OF AMERICA. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.
>> IF WE CAN MAKE THAT ARGUMENT TO BANK OF AMERICA.
I DOUBT WE GOT AN INTEREST RATE NEXT TO NOTHING.
IT IS TWO PAYMENTS, ONE IN APRIL, ONE IN OCTOBER.
THAT IS WHAT GETS US TO THE 1.5. SO THE ISSUE IS GOVERNED BY CONTRACT. THEY ORDERED THEM AS SOON AS WE COULD SO WE COULD START GETTING ENERGY SAVINGS.
THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF WAITING.
ENERGY SAVINGS, REMEMBER, IS OVER TIME.
WE CAN GET EVERYBODY TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE PRESENTATIONS.
BUT THAT IS THE NATURE OF THAT EQUIPMENT.
TAKES A LONG TIME JUST LIKE THE GENERATORS TO COME IN AND CREATE OPPORTUNITIES. THIS IS YOUR SPENDING MONEY TO MAKE MONEY. OVER TIME WE HOPE IT WILL PAY
DIVIDENDS. >> I AM SHOWING BOILERS ORDERED
IN MARCH. >> I AM GOING TO GET A REPORT.
>> I WILL UPDATE THE COURT. I AM GOING TO GET A REPORT FROM ABM. I ASKED FOR THAT.
WE WILL GET THE COURT A REPORT ON THE STATUS OF THE PROJECTS.
>> VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? LOOKS LIKE WE ARE DONE ON OUR
I WANT TO MAKE SURE HAH WE GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT ALL OF THESE NEW NUMBERS. TYPICALLY BY THIS TIME WE HAVE MORE TIME. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE ALL THESE NEW NUMBERS.
I WOULD ASK YOU TO REMEMBER JUST STARRED ITEM 2.7 MILLION.
IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO BE AT, OF COURSE SOME OF THE ITEMS IMPORTANT TO YOU GUYS EVEN IF WE PUT ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS TO ARPA, WE STILL NEED AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT
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CLOSE TO VOTER APPROVED RATE. BY TOMORROW, SET A PROPOSED TAX RATE. THAT IS NOT THE RATE THAT WILL BE CHOSEN. BUT IT IS THE RATE THAT WILL SET THE CEILING. COULD BE THE RATE THAT WE CHOOSE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE.PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND AND BE PREPARED TOMORROW FOR ANSWERING THAT QUESTIONS AS IT WILL BE ON OUR AGENDA.
AGAIN YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THE RATE IT WOULDN'T GO OVER.
THIS IS THE CEILING. GIVES US ALL THE REALM OF THE POS POSSIBLE.
I WOULD INVITE YOU TO BE THINKING ABOUT A CEILING.
AGAIN I'LL CLARIFY IT FIVE TIMES TOMORROW.
ONE MORE TIME DOESN'T HURT RIGHT KNOW WHICH IS THAT OF COURSE DOES NOT MEAN WE WILL NOT USE THAT RATE.
JUST MEANS WE COULD NOT GO ABOVE THAT RATE.
DALE'S RECOMMENDATION IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS CONVERSATION WAS THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY INTENTIONS OF SEEING NEW POSITIONS OR NEW RECLASSIFICATIONS, YOU ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE THINKING THE VOTER APPROVED RATE.
WHICH BY THE WAY IS SUPER CLOSE TO LAST YEAR'S RATE.
WHEN I SAY SUPER CLOSE, I MEAN LIKE, 100TH, 300THS OFF, I BELIEVE. WITH NO MORE QUESTIONS, WE'LL CONCLUDE FOR THE DAY. WE'LL ASK ONE MORE TIME, ANYBODY
ELSE FOR NOW? >> COMMISSIONER, FOR CLARIFICATION FOR INFORMATION YOU WANT IT WAS A 5% FROM THE 29 AND ABOVE, WHAT WAS THE ONE 11-28.
>> 7 OR 8. ALSO 7 ACROSS EVERYBODY.
>> ANYONE TO EXCLUDE? DO WE EXCLUDE ANYBODY?
>> DID WE EXCLUDE ANYBODY? >> LAST TIME WE EXCLUDED THE ELECTED OFFICIALS. ALL RIGHT.
>> TERESA HAS SOMETHING SHE WANTED TO SHARE FROM EARLIER
DISCUSSION. >> I DON'T KNOW IF KARA GOT TO
FINISH EITHER. >> I WANTED TO MENTION ON FRIDAY, 13TH, WE HAVE TO SEND OUT THE SALARY LETTERS FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS SALARIES. RIGHT NOW, I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS NOT INCLUDED, COLA IS NOT INCLUDED.
ESTIMATES IS LAST YEAR'S. >> I'LL HAVE THIS INFORMATION FOR TOMORROW'S COURT. CLEARFICATION FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WHATEVER THE DECISION IS.
>> KARA? >> I WANTED TO -- [INAUDIBLE] SO MY OFFICE [INAUDIBLE]
>> FOR TAX ASSESSOR, ONLY ONE POSITION TO SENIOR CLERK.
>> BE CLEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. IF YOU ARE SAYING IF I INCLUDED ANYTHING ELSE INCLUDED, IT WASN'T.
>> ONE POSITION YOU SAID IS NOT GOING TO COST ANY MONEY.
>> THEY ARE GOING TO COST MONEY IN MY OFFICE.
>> YOU CAN GO TO H1, THAT IS THE RECLASS REQUEST KARA IS
REFERRING TO. >> WHAT DO YOU WANTED TO DO, KARA, IT IS NOT GOING TO EFFECT THE GENERAL FUND.
>> NOBODY CAN HEAR YOU. >> NO.
IN FACT IT WILL SAVE MONEY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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>> THANK YOU. >> JUDGE, WE ARE DONE ON OUR END. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS
ANYTHING ELSE YOU HAVE. >> NO, THANK YOU, JOHN, VERY MUCH FOR ASSISTING ME THIS MORNING.
AGAIN, I JUST YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN YOU SAY, THERE ARE GOOD THINGS AND BAD THINGS THAT CYCLE THROUGH OUR LIVES IN MANY WAYS OUR BUDGET LAST YEAR IS SUCH A SUCCESS TO BE ABLE TO SAY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT RESERVES, MAYBE BEING AS HIGH AS TWO MILLION DOLLARS IS PHENOMENAL FROM LAST YEAR.
LAST TERM EFFECTS OF COVID ON THE ECONOMY OVERALL IS NOW TAKING A TOLL IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
SO MUCH SO THAT AGAIN YOU CAN'T ALWAYS YOU KNOW GET WHAT YOU WANT. BUT WE DO NEED TO PROVIDE FOR WHAT WE NEED. I WOULD SAY THERE IS GOING TO BE A REAL INTERESTING DISCUSSION AFTER WE SET THIS PROPOSED RATE BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY TO GET EVEN WHAT WE NEED WITH THE EFFECTED. EVERYBODY ALWAYS WANTS TO TRY TO SEE YOU LOWER TAXES? EFFECTIVE IS CALLED THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE ALAS, THERE IS NO WAY TO BRING IN THE REVENUE YOU WOULD NEED TO EVEN TAKE CARE OF THE ASTERISKS.
AGAIN, I THINK THAT IS THE REAL STORY HERE IS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT AMOUNT THAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO GO TO BY LAW WHICH IS THE VOTER APPROVED PLUS UNUSED INCREMENT.
THAT WOULD BRING IN FIVE MILLION DOLLARS.
YOU CAN GO A MILLION TO FIVE MILLION.
SOME WHERE IN BETWEEN MIGHT BE THAT PERFECT AMOUNT.
THAT IS WHERE IT GETS TO BE A CHALLENGE.
WE'LL BRING BACK MORE INFO AND VISIT WITH DALE.
BUT THE DESIRE TO GIVE EVERYBODY RAISES WILL HAVE TO BE MET WITH THE QUESTION HOW WILL YOU PAY FOR IT? WITH WHAT RATE? WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING
THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS. >> ALSO JUDGE DURING LAST COMMISSIONER'S COURT APPROVED CONTRACT FOR MESO INSURANCE, PPO FOR NETWORK. DECISION WAS POSSIBLY THOSE STAYING ON PPO WOULD HAVE TO PAY A HIGHER PREMIUM.
WE NEED TO CONSIDER PREMIUM INCREASE WHAT THAT EFFECT WOULD
WORK BEGINS TODAY. TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY WE HAVE SEEN ALL OF THE NEW CALCULATIONS AND AGAIN, THEY ARE DISAPPOINTING ON NEW CONSTRUCTION.
TWO ELEMENTS MISSING. GROULT GROWTH IS LOOKING GOOD IN OUR COMMUNITY. THAT IS POSSIBLE.
IT IS JUST NOT NEW GROWTH. I WAS ON EDC CALL THIS MORNING.
WE ARE NOT IN RECOVERY, FULL SCALE RECOVERY YET.
THAT IS ONE THING WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND.
I THINK THE OTHER THING IS WHAT OUR CASH FLOW ANALYSIS LOOKS LIKE IN YEARS TO COME. THAT IS IMPORTANT TO WHAT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY SAID IF YOU ARE GOING TO EXPECT SAVINGS YEAR TWO, FOUR, AND ONE AND WHAT OTHER ARENAS ARE WE SEEING LOSS OF REVENUE. FROM PEER TO ENERGY SAVINGS TO OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO RESTORE GRANTS IN OUR COMMUNITY, OUR LITIGATION WITH REGARDS TO INSURANCE, LET'S FACE IT, THE REASON YOU HAVE THAT DEBT SERVICE IS BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO YOU KNOW, TAKE CARE OF OUR AILING MECHANICAL AMONGST OTHER ITEMS. THAT MECHANICAL FUNCTION OF YOUR COURTHOUSE JAIL, JUVENILE AND FAIRGROUNDS EXPENSIVE INCLUDING HVAC. MAYBE IF WE WERE TO PREVAIL IN OTHER ARENAS YOU COULD SEE OFFSETS IN THE FUTURE.
I DON'T THINK OUR FUTURE IS ANYTHING BUT BRIGHT.
I THINK THIS PARTICULAR YEAR WE ARE SEEING LATE-TERM EFFECTS OF COVID-19 ECONOMY. WITH THAT I'LL CLOSE AND SAY SEE YOU TOMORROW MORNING. THANKS FOR COMING IN.
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WE ARE* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.