Aug 03, 2021 Commissioners Court - Budget Workshop

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GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. WE ARE GAVEL IN AND THE TIME

[ NUECES COUNTY, TEXAS COMMISSIONERS COURT *This will be a remote meeting with multiple methods of access; See instructions below: BUDGET WORKSHOP AUGUST 3, 2021 ]

IT ALWAYS SETS THE TONE WITH THE PRAYER AND A RISING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA INTO THE TEXAS FLAG. FIRST AND VACATION.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE GATHER HERE , AS WE DO SO OFTEN AMONGST COLLEAGUES AND FRIENDS TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY WITH ECISIONS THAT ARE CRITICAL, AND WE ASK THAT YOU GRACE US WITH COMPASSION FOR OUR PEOPLE AND WISDOM TO MAKE GOOD AND RIGHTEOUS DECISIONS.

WE ALSO ASK FOR US TO HAVE MORE UNDERSTANDING OF ONE ANOTHER AND TO HIS CLOSER TOGETHER AS WE TRY TO DO GOOD.

WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS OUR NUECES COUNTY FAMILY.

WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THOSE THAT ARE SUFFERING IN OUR HOSPITALS. WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH OUR FRIEND AND OUR COLLEAGUES, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, AND HIS FAMILY, AT A TIME THAT THEY ALSO ARE IN MOURNING.

WE ASK THAT YOU PROTECT ALL OF THOSE WHO WEAR UNIFORM, BOTH HERE AND D ABROAD, AS THEY STRIVE TO PROTECT ALL OF US.

WE ASK FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS IN YOUR LOVING SON'S NAME,

AMEN. >> GROUP: I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, WHEN NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE IN INDIVISIBLE.

>> MALE SPEAKER: DOES THIS REPLACE THAT WHOLE SECTION?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: AS WE ALL SETTLE IN THIS MORNING, I WENT TO HAVE A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING. THIS MORNING, THE TEXAS WINDSTORM INSURANCE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS HOLDING A VIRTUAL MEETING TO DISCUSS TAX -- I'M SORRY, RATE INCREASES OF 5 PERCENT THAT WOULD HIGHLY IMPACT AND AFFECT OUR COASTAL BEND. I WILL BE MAKING COMMENTS ON BEHALF OF OUR COUNTY AND THE ONLY WAY TO PROPERLY DO SO, BECAUSE WE NEVER KNOW YOU WILL BE CALLED, IS TO HAVE THE RECORDING IN THE ROOM. AND SO, MAGGIE IS LISTENING IN.

WHEN IT'S MY TURN, I WILL ASK ALL OF US TO RECESS, IT WILL BE AN AUTOMATIC RECESS. IF YOU WOULD JUST REMAIN QUIET FOR THE TWO MINUTES AND LISTEN, I THINK WE AS A COURT WOULD BENEFIT BY ALL BEING PRESENT, EVEN THOUGH THAT WE CANNOT BE THERE IN PERSON. WE WILL ALL BE THERE FOR JULIE.

I KNOW WE ALL FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

WE ALL PASSED A RESOLUTION. SO JUST A BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING, WHEN IT IS MY TURN TO REPRESENT NUECES, WE WILL JUST TAKE IT AS AN AUTOMATIC RECESS AND WILL COME RIGHT BACK IN AFTER I MAKE COMMENTS. IT'S VERY, VERY QUICK.

WITH THAT, WE WILL OPEN UP THIS BUDGET WORKSHOP AND CONTINUE WITH THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY.

ALL OF US ARE HERE. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IS ONLINE THIS MORNING, AND EVERY OTHER COMMISSIONERS PRESENT.

SO YESTERDAY WE HAD A VERY HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW.

SOME GOOD THINGS HAPPENED LAST NIGHT, I GOT A PIECE OF PAPER ON MY DESK THIS MORNING FROM KEVIN KEESHAN NICK.

DOES THAT MEAN WE HAVE A REAL CERTIFIED ROLE, DALE?

>> MALE SPEAKER: ALMOST. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: OKAY.

>> MALE SPEAKER: WE WILL NOT HAVE IT FOR TODAY.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: NO WORRIES. BUT JUST UPDATE EVERYBODY, WE

DID GET SOME NUMBERS. >> MALE SPEAKER: WE DID BUT STILL WORKING ON GETTING THE INFORMATION FROM THE COMP CONTROLLER TO GET PUT IN THE SOFTWARE TO COMPLETE THE RATES.

> FEMALE SPEAKER: SO WE ARE STILL WAITING, THEN.

>> MALE SPEAKER: WAITING A LITTLE BIT.

HOPEFULLY, WE ARE ALMOST DONE. WE SAW SOME ERRORS WHEN WE DID SOME, GALATIANS, BECAUSE THE ROAD FRONT WAS GIVING US A NEGATIVE, A DECREASE ON THE RATE INSTEAD OF AN INCREASE.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: WE KNOW THAT'S NOT TRUE.

>> MALE SPEAKER: THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE WHEN VALUES GO UP.

WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THE NUMBERS.

I WANT TO GIVE INACCURATE VALUES.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: UNDERSTOOD. THE ONLY THING I WAS GOING TO SAY'S WHAT WAS SURPRISING TO ME, THOUGH, IS SO IT'S APPROXIMATELY TAV OF 34.9 BILLION?

>> MALE SPEAKER: YES. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: WAS NOT HIGHER THAN YOU THOUGHT? A LITTLE?> MALE SPEAKER: A LITTLE HIGHER. WELL, WE WERE PROPOSING, IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE STUFF WE HAD WITH NO IDEA OF PRESENTATIONS,

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>> FEMALE SPEAKER: NOT TOO FAR .

JUST CHECKING. OF COURSE WE WILL BE HERE TOMORROW IN COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR OUR PUBLIC MEETING.

SO IN THAT CASE, I WILL OPEN UP MY BUDGET WORKBOOK AND SUGGEST THAT, FIRST, WE TAKE ANY QUESTIONS FROM YESTERDAY, JUST YOU AND I'LL CALL SO WE CAN START OFF RIGHT AND WE WILL PITCH BACK TO DALE. YOU HAD TIME LAST NIGHT TO THINK ABOUT IT, DIGEST IT, LOOK OVER SOME OF THE NUMBERS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR DALE OVER WHAT WE REVIEWED YESTERDAY? ECAUSE THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO ASK.

>> MALE SPEAKER: WE MADE REVISIONS ON TAB A WHICH WE TOOK A FEW THINGS OUT THAT WE ARE DISCUSSED OVER DISCUSSIONS.

YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A REPLACEMENT FOR TAB A AS WELL AS WE UPDATED TAB J DOES YOUR BUDGET CHALLENGES WILL BE PUT ARP QUESTION MARK ON THOSE THAT WE KNOW, THERE I. A SUBTOTAL AT THE BOTTOM FOR EVERYTHING THAT SAYS STAR.

TERESA WILL GET THE INFORMATION FOR YESTERDAY.

THEN WE UPDATED ON TAB M WHERE WE ADDED ADDITIONAL MERGED EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PERSON THAT WAS DISCUSSED.

ALL OF THE REST HAS NOT CHANGED FROM OUR DISCUSSION.

I WILL BE GLAD TO GO OVER ANYTHING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT.

I LIKE TO BRING UP SOMETHING LATER IN OUR DISCUSSION ON WHEN WE GET TO OUR, TWO SPECIALTY FUNDS, WHAT IS THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY, WHICH IS THE COURT PLAN TO DO FOR SECURITY OF THIS COURTHOUSE, WHETHER WE ADD MORE STAFF OR AT MORE PLACES WHERE WE SCAN PEOPLE, IF WE DO. THAT WILL COST ADDITIONAL FUNDS AND ADDITIONAL EXPENSES TO THE GENERAL FUND.

WITH THAT, WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION YOU MAY HAVE HAD OR BROUGHT UP AND WE CAN DEFINITELY GO THROUGH ANY OF THOSE IN DETAIL THAT YOU SEE FIT AND I WILL BE GLAD TO TRY TO BE THE BEST. UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE THE RATES. I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE THEM TO LET YOU KNOW OUR GOOD STARTING POINT, BUT AS SOON AS WE HAVE THE INFORMATION, WE HOPEFULLY HAVE IT FOR TOMORROW'S MEETING ON THE AGENDA.

AT THAT POINT IN TIME, IF IT'S ALLOWED ON THE AGENDA, I MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON THE AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR PROJECTIONS WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT HERE IN THE BUDGET. I DEFER TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY

OF WHETHER WE CAN ARE NOT. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: OKAY.

SO YOU'VE GOT SOME ADJUSTMENTS. WHAT ABOUT THE CHALLENGES PAGE? DID YOU ALSO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS ON THE ASTERISK?

>> MALE SPEAKER: I STILL LEFT THE ASTERISK ON THERE.

I PUT SOME QUESTION MARKS ON SERVICES FOR RISK ASSESSMENT AS WELL AS THE MENTOR CALM SOFTWARE, STILL UP FOR COURT FOR DISCUSSION. I SUBTOTAL THE ONE THAT ARE ASTERISKED LIKE TERESA HAD DONE AT 2.4 MILLION OF KNOWN COST.

THERE OTHER STUFF IN THERE THAT INCLUDE PRIOR YEAR CHANGES, THAT WAS PROBABLY A STAR AND THAT YOU WILL DECIDE THAT THESE POSITIONS ARE NOT NECESSARILY NEEDED THIS YEAR.

IF IT IS, THEN WE NEED AN INCREASE OF 267 FOR THIS YEAR SO IT CAN BE A STAR AND IT WOULD ADD TO THE COST OF WHAT

WE NEED TO INCREASE. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: OKAY.

AND I HAVE MAYBE SOME GOOD INFORMATION ON THE METRO CALM SOFTWARE THAT TERESA, AND IN FACT PETER COLLINS JUST LEFT.

WE THINK THAT NUMBER IS MUCH LOWER.

WHAT HAPPENED WAS, DALE, IS THAT THAT IS THE RIGHT NUMBER.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE BUDGET OF METRO CALM, WE ONLY PAY OUR 23 PERCENT, TERESA? .

I'M SORRY, 24 PERCENT THIS YEAR? IT WAS 23 LAST YEAR. SORRY.

TURNS OUT IT'S 207,000. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: I HAVE 2.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: 264. SORRY.

THAT NUMBER, DALE, IS A BIT BETTER THAN WE THOUGHT.

IS 264, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO VERIFY THAT WITH YOU.

THE BUDGET BEATING FOR METROCOM IS AUGUST 27.

SO THAT IS WHEN THE BUDGET GETS APPROVED.

AND SO, THAT IS THE RIGHT NUMBER FOR THE SOFTWARE, BUT

REMEMBER WE ONLY -- >> MALE SPEAKER: THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE INCREASE IN THE SALARY THAT THEY HAD PROPOSED?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: IT IS NOT. >> MALE SPEAKER: SO WHY THE

264? >> FEMALE SPEAKER: RIGHT, BUT

THE SALARY -- >> MALE SPEAKER: IT'S A LARGER SALARY, Y, SO STILL ABOUT 300,000.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: CORRECT. SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT BUT IT'S OF COURSE KIND OF HARD BECAUSE THE MEETING HAS NOT TAKEN PLACE TO APPROVE THAT BUDGET.

SO WE DON'T KNOW IF THE SELLERS WILL TAKE PLACE.

WE THINK THEY WILL. WE SHOULD PROBABLY JUST

PRESUME. >> MALE SPEAKER: THE RATE PROBABLY WENT DOWN BECAUSE THEY HAD A QUOTE, A PROPOSAL FOR THE NEW SOFTWARE AT 1.1 MILLION AND ACTUALLY GOT THE TRUE INVOICES,

IT WAS A LOT LESS. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: SO WE THINK THAT -- I MEAN, WE WILL HAVE A REAL NUMBER FOR YOU ON AUGUST 27, BUT I MEAN WE COULD PROBABLY GUESS AND TAKE AN EDUCATED GUESS. WE KNOW THAT THE SOFTWARE

COMPONENT OF IT -- >> FEMALE SPEAKER: IS 1.1

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MILLION. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: IS 1.1 MILLION. BUT IF YOU PUT IN THE BUDGET, OUR PORTION OF IT TURNS OUT TO BE 264.

>> MALE SPEAKER: 325, WHATEVER.

>> MALE SPEAKER: I GUESS IT WAS ONLY FOR THE SOFTWARE.

THE PROPOSED INCREASE ON ALL SALARIES.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: AND THEN ALL THE SALARIES.

>> MALE SPEAKER: THAT WOULD ADD TO THE 264.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: THAT'S WHY YOU GOT THE NUMBER, RIGHT.

OKAY. >> MALE SPEAKER: STILL PROPOSED HOPEFULLY USING OUR FAST.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: EXACTLY. I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT, ONLY THAT TWO YEARS WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PAY THOSE SALARY

INCREASES. >> MALE SPEAKER: SALARY INCREASE, AND IT'S AN INCREASE BUT NOT INSIGNIFICANT -- IT'S 20 PERCENT OF $800,000. [INAUDIBLE]

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: OKAY. OKAY.

SO WHERE WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE TO BEGIN? THIS WORKSHOP IS REALLY MEANT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE RECOMMENDATIONS WITH DALE. AND IF YOU KIND OF MOVE THROUGH THIS LIST, THIS IS WHERE YOU REALLY NEED TO, WE NEED TO HEAR FROM ALL OF YOU, IF THERE IS ANY ISSUES.

I MEAN, I'M JUST GOING TO GO DOWN.

WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE SOFTWARE.RE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SOFTWARE, LIFEGUARD SERVICES, RISK ASSESSMENT, BOUNDARY DISPUTE? BECAUSE IT'S THE LAST THREE THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO REALLY DISCUSS HERE OPENLY.

BUT HOW ABOUT FOR THE REST OF THEM? COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, WE ARE GUESSTIMATING, WE CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW, BUT WE THINK 300,000 IS A GOOD NUMBER THERE.

WE DON'T HAVE A FINALIZED NUMBER, BUT THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE AMOUNTS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, YOU KNOW, BUDGETED.

>> MALE SPEAKER: ECHOES THE QUESTION NEXT TO IT IS, WILL THE FUNDS BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THAT AND THERE WAS A QUESTION MARK BY IT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS COVERED YESTERDAY WHEN I WAS NOT THERE OR NOT, BUT IS THERE AN ANSWER? ARE WE WAITING TO FIND OUT?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: WE ARE WAITING.

MAGGIE AND I ARE DROPPING MORE LETTERS THIS AFTERNOON .

WE DID NOT INCLUDE THAT IN OUR LAST INQUIRY.

SO WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THAT AN INQUIRY.

BASICALLY, THERE IS A LOT OF -- TO ME JUST TELL YOU HOW I THINK IT COUNTS AND YOU CAN HELP ME REASON THROUGH IT.

SO WE WILL HAVE OUR LOST REVENUE CALCULATIONS.

YOU CAN APPLY THOSE TO GOVERNMENT SERVICES.

WE BELIEVE THIS WOULD BE COUNTED AS A GOVERNMENT SERVICE. THINK IT IS A SUPERSTRONG CASE.

BUT I LIKE HEARING IT, YOU KNOW.

BUT I BELIEVE THAT IS THE CASE TO BE MADE.

SO THAT MEANS THAT THE 3.5 MILLION THAT WE ARE GUESSTIMATING OUR LOST REVENUES, WE COULD APPLY A PIECE OF THAT TO LIFEGUARD SERVICES.OES THAT MAKE SENSE

TO YOU? >> MALE SPEAKER: YES.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE STAND VERY STRONG AND IT WOULD BE VERY NICE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS. IT RIGHT GIVE US OUR LIKE UP UNTIL WE GET GREAT GRANTS, GREAT REVENUE BUILDING MODELS BACK IN OUR PARKS AGAIN. THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS TO BRING REVENUE, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE NOT TO HAVE TO YOUR OUT HOW TO DO IT IN 30 DAYS. AND SO, WE THINK OUR BED WOULD REALLY BE A PERFECT SOLUTION THERE.

IT SEEMS TO FIT. >> MALE SPEAKER: WHAT IS BANK OF AMERICA DEBT SERVICE INCREASE?

>> MALE SPEAKER: WHEN Y'ALL AGREED TO HAVE ABM TO THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS AND OTHER ITEMS, WE WENT OUT FOR A LOAN AND THE LOAN WAS FROM THE BANK OF AMERICA. BANK OF AMERICA LOAN WAS FOR $25 MILLION. WE FINANCED AND IT REQUIRES A LOAN PAYMENT. THIS IS A LOAN PAYMENT, WHAT WE CALL OUR SECO FUNDS WILL COME AWARDS FOR ENERGY SAVINGS WHICH ARE TO BE PAYING FOR THIS. HOWEVER, THE CONSTRUCTION THEY HAD THIS YEAR HAS NOT BEEN LEADING TO ANY SAVINGS.

WE SOLD TO PAY FOR THE DEBT SERVICE, THE TOTAL DEBT SERVICE

THE SERIES 1.5 MILLION. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: THEY WERE OUR FINANCES AT BANK OF AMERICA, WE ARE THE FINANCING

COMPANY. >> MALE SPEAKER: ABM CONTRACT TO DO THE UNITS FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS AS WELL AS THE OTHER LOCATIONS THAT THE ABM CONTRACT SUBMITTED FOR.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: INCLUDING THE BOILERS HERE AT THIS COURTHOUSE AND JUVENILE AND ALL OF THE ADA -- AS YOU WELL KNOW, THERE IS A LITANY OF THINGS. AND I CALL THAT PAYING THE PIPER LINE. WE'VE HAD TO PAY THE PIPER.

>> MALE SPEAKER: HAVE WE HAD NO SAVINGS ON THE AREA AT ALL?

>> MALE SPEAKER: SO FAR, THE ONLY THING THAT I KNOW THAT ABM HAS DONE DOWN THE ROAD WORKING CONCRETE OUT OF THE FAIRGROUNDS. THEY HAVE NOT STARTED THE PORTER WORK WITH THE OTHER WORK THAT WOULD GIVE YOU ENERGY SAVINGS AT THE MOMENT. IT'S JUST IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT. ONCE THEY START WORKING ON THE BORDERS AND THE HAIR HAMMERS THAT ARE IN THE CONTRACT, THEY WILL POSSIBLY BE A SAVINGS OF MONEY THAT WE COULD HAVE.

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>> FEMALE SPEAKER: WE JUST DID THE ROOF, WE JUST -- I MEAN, LITERALLY, THEY ARE STILL IN CONSTRUCTION.

>> MALE SPEAKER: THE NEW ROOF MAY ASSIST ON ENERGY SAVINGS BECAUSE DEFINITELY A NEW ROOF AND MORE ENERGY SAVINGS BECAUSE OF IT. HOLDING OUT THE HEAT AND THE COLD, BUT RIGHT NOW WITH THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE, THERE'S NOT ANY SAVINGS AT THIS MOMENT TO COVER THE ADDITIONAL SAVINGS.WE HOPE IN THE FUTURE THERE WILL BE SAVINGS TO COVER THIS WE WILL SEE A REDUCTION IN SOME OF OUR EXPENSES BUT WILL STILL HAVE TO DO THE TRANSFER TO COVER THE SERVICE.

>> MALE SPEAKER: MAY BE YEARS BEFORE WE SEE THAT.

>> MALE SPEAKER: POSSIBLY. >> MALE SPEAKER: 100 -- HAPPENED TO THE 750,000? HOW YOU KNOW IT WAS 1.5

MILLION? >> FEMALE SPEAKER: TWO

PAYMENTS. >> MALE SPEAKER: TWO PAYMENTS, FIRST HAD ONE PAYMENT OF 79,000 BECAUSE WHEN I EVALUATED THE DEBT SERVICE REQUIREMENT, THERE'S TWO PAYMENTS OF 1+1 INTEREST. TOTAL INTEREST FOR THIS FOR THIS YEAR FOR THE BANK OF AMERICA IS 1.5 MILLION ACQUIRED

THAT T SERVICE. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: ONE IS IN OCTOBER AND THE OTHERS IN APRIL.L.

THOSE TWO DIFFERENT YEARS, BUT IT'S OUR SAME FISCAL YEAR.

>> MALE SPEAKER: OCTOBER IS -- --

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: SAME FISCAL YEAR.

SORRY, YEAH, PHYSICAL YEAR. >> MALE SPEAKER: FIRST PAYMENT

BEING PAID. [INAUDIBLE] >> MALE SPEAKER: ALREADY MADE A PAYMENT BUT WE WILL MAKE YOUR FIRST PAYMENT IN OCTOBER.E WILL PAY THE NEXT ONE AS THE JUDGE WAS SAYING I

BELIEVE IN AUGUST. >> MALE SPEAKER: AS LONG AS YOU PAY IN OCTOBER, 7050 OR ONE --

>> MALE SPEAKER: FIRST PAYMENT WILL BE $900, FINALISTS.

[INAUDIBLE] IF I GET THE DEBT SERVICE -- TOTAL IS 1.5

MILLION. >> MALE SPEAKER: DECEMBER,

795, RIGHT? >> MALE SPEAKER: FOR OCTOBER,

WINNING $900,000. >> MALE SPEAKER: OCTOBER.

THEY SAID DECEMBER. >> MALE SPEAKER: FIRST PAYMENT

IS PRINCIPAL PLUS INTEREST. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: IT IS A LOAN. YOU WILL PAY EVERY YEAR FOR 15

YEARS. >> MALE SPEAKER: THAT'S A BIG

LOAN. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: THIS LOAN GOES ONLY, WHAT WE CALL, YOU KNOW, IT IS OUR MN OUTSIDE, NOT INTEREST IN SINKING. TYPICALLY DO NOT SEE DEBT ON THE SIDE OF THE EQUATION, BUT YOU DO IN ENERGY SAVINGS PERFORMANCE CONTRACTS BECAUSE THAT IS BY STATUTE HOW IT MUST

BE DONE. >> MALE SPEAKER: OKAY.

IT'S IN THE ASPECT ANYWAY, SO WE HAVE TO PAY IT.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: THE TWO PAYMENTS OR SEVEN 91.2 6728 TWO IN OCTOBER, THEN IT'S YOU AGAIN IN APRIL.

>> MALE SPEAKER: EXCUSE ME, WHEN I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY.

IS THIS FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS? >> MALE SPEAKER: ABM CONTRACT CORONAVIRUS. IS IN THE COURTHOUSE, SOME AREAS OF THE JUVENILE, MAJORITY OF THE WORK IS THE FAIRGROUNDS.

COVERS A ROOF AND SOME CONSTRUCTION WORK ON THE PARKING AREA. MAJORITY OF COST IS PROBABLY THE FAIRGROUNDS, BUT IT DOES COVER UP OTHER AREAS WHEN THE

COURT-APPROVED ABM CONTRACT. >> MALE SPEAKER: WE HAD TO

TAKE OUT TWO LOANS TO DO THAT. >> MALE SPEAKER: JUST ONE.

A $25 MILLION LOAN. >> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: WE CAN GIVE YOU A COPY OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WERE COVERED.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: THE COUNTY ACTUALLY PAID LIKE 8.9 MILLION

DOLLARS OF OUR OWN MONEY. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: RIGHT.

>> MALE SPEAKER: TOTAL ABM CONTRACT WAS 35 MILLION BUT WE ONLY BORROWED 25 MILLION BECAUSE WE HAD 10 MILLION AS THE. [INAUDIBLE] ESTABLISHED IN SOME OF OUR OLD CEOS AND WE ARE ABLE TO USE.O THE PORTION OF THAT WAS ALREADY PREPAID. WE JUST HAD TO FINANCE THE

REMAINING 25 MILLION. >> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

>> MALE SPEAKER: CAN WE GO INTO RECOMMENDED POSITIONS?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, RICONN EVERYTHING ELSE? BECAUSE IT WOULD BE NICE TO FOCUS ON THOSE POSITIONS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE LIFEGUARD SERVICES, RISK ASSESSMENT, LAWSUIT OR THE SOFTWARE? THAT WAY, THE REST OF THE TIME CAN BE SPENT ON PHYSICIANS AND WE CAN ASK CONNIE TO MOVE TO

THAT. >> MALE SPEAKER: RISK ASSESSMENT, IS THAT FOR THE PROBATION?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: CCD, ADULT PROBATION.

>> MALE SPEAKER: I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.

HE WANTS 1/3 POSITION? >> MALE SPEAKER: CORRECT.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: HAVE YOU SPOKEN WITH HIM?

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>> MALE SPEAKER: HE HAS NOT RETURNED MY CALL.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: LET'S GET HIM TO CALL YOU.

IT'S HARD TO DISAGREE WITH SOMETHING IF YOU ARE UNAWARE OF WHAT THE SITUATION IS WITH THE COURT SYSTEM AND THE BACKLOG DUE TO COVID-19 AND WHAT HIS SITUATION IS.

IF WE WANT TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE, IT IS USUALLY BECAUSE THERE IS

A REAL NEED AND -- >> MALE SPEAKER: WE ARE PAYING FOR THE WHOLE AMOUNT NOW FIRST OR 7525, THEN 50, RIGHT, AND NOW ARE PAYING THE WHOLE THING. THAT'S GOING TO BE, WHAT IS IT, 50,000. UNDER THE COURT WANTED IT, BUT THE TIME THAT WE GOT IT BACK THEN, 7525, I THINK IF I

REMEMBER, AND -- >> FEMALE SPEAKER: WE HAVE A CURRENT AND LOCAL AND IT PAYS FOR THE CURRENT PROBATION -- PRETRIAL RISK ASSESSMENT OFFICERS.

IT ENDS IN SEPTEMBER, JUST SO YOU KNOW.

>> MALE SPEAKER: IT ENDS IN AUGUST.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: OKAY. SORRY.

IS IN AUGUST. >> MALE SPEAKER: FISCAL YEAR

ENDS IN AUGUST. >> MALE SPEAKER: NOW WE ARE PICKING UP THE TAB FOR 122,429, RIGHT?

>> MALE SPEAKER: CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE SPENDING

NOW. >> MALE SPEAKER: -- THE JUDGE, 7030. THEN AFTER THAT, WE WILL CONTINUE IT BECAUSE THEY WANTED IT.

AND BUT THEN WE PICKED UP NOW AGAIN THIS YEAR, NOW WE ARE PICKING UP THAT PLUS THE THIRD PERSON.

THEY ARE NOT PAYING ANYTHING? THEY ARE NOT MATCHING ANYTHING?

>> MALE SPEAKER: NO. >> MALE SPEAKER: WHY?

>> MALE SPEAKER: THE DECISION THE COURT-APPROVED IS WHEN WE FIRST GOT THE GRANT, THE GRANT APPROVED 7525 WHERE WE PAID 75 PERCENT OF THE SALARIES AND THE GRANT PAGE 25 AND PAID FOR THE INCLEMENT, BUT THEY DID NOT SEE THE GRANT WAS NOT REALLY AWARDED.

HOWEVER, IN THE BOARD OF JUDGES AS WELL AS SOME OF THE COURTS WHO DECIDED THAT IT WAS STILL NECESSARY BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION OF OUR UR JAIL TO CONTINUE THIS PROCESS.

WAS REWARDED TO THE COURT HERE. LAST YEAR IT HAD 100 PERCENT REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE CCD TO COVER THE TWO EMPLOYEES THAT ARE THERE TO TRY TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE JAIL TO TRY TO GET THE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT REALLY REQUIRED TO BE IN THE JAIL AND CAN BE IN OTHER PLACES TO TRY TO DO THAT AND IF WE CONTINUE THAT, THE COURT WOULD STILL LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN ANYWHERE FROM 95 TO 100 PERCENT IN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS. WE KNOW THE COURTS HAVE NOT BEEN RUNNING AT, BUT STILL WE ARE AT A HIGH LEVEL.

STILL TRYING TO DO THIS. LOOK AT YOUR DOCUMENTS ON TAB B, TAB B9 WHERE IT SAYS JAIL ASSESSMENT PROGRAM, YOU CAN GET ROUGH HISTORY OF HOW IT HAS WORKED AND WHAT HAS DONE IN KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION OF WHY THE CS ED DIRECTOR IS REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL PERSON.

RIGHT NOW THERE ARE TWO NEW INDIVIDUALS.

THEY ARE THERE BASICALLY EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.

SO THEY ALTERNATE SHIFTS. HOWEVER, IF ONE PERSON IS A, ANOTHER PERSON MUST FILL IN FOR WHEN THAT PERSON IS SICK.

SO THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF UNCOVERED TIME.

SO THEY WOULD HAVE AN ADDITIONAL PERSON TO COVER THE COSTS.HE ONLY IMPACT IS THE 50,749 TOTAL, MAKING THE TOTAL IMPACT OF THE GENERAL FUND 173 WHERE IT WAS 122, 49 WHERE THE COUNTY GIVES YOU A ROUGH ESTIMATE BY THE CS CD REQUESTER DIRECTOR IS REQUESTING THIS POSITION.

>> MALE SPEAKER: I UNDERSTAND 1.2, 2173.

BUT IS THERE ANYWAY WE CAN GET A GRANT OR SOMETHING TO --

>> MALE SPEAKER: WE DID GET AN ORIGINAL.

THROUGH KA D.C. TO TRY TO WORK WITH US.

HOWEVER, THE TA D.C. WITH THE EVALUATION OF THIS DID NOT RENEW THE GRANT. I BELIEVE WE DID APPLY FOR IT BUT THEY DID NOT RENEW THE GRANT, BECAUSE WE WERE THE FIRST ONE TRYING TO DO THIS. THEY DID NOT SEE THE IT WAS SOMETHING THEY WANTED TO CONTINUE.E CAN ALWAYS TRY TO READ TO THE GRANT AND AND I'M SURE MARIA HAS CONSTANTLY LOOKED INTO THESE LEVELS. SOMETIMES THE GRANTS ARE NOT THE EASY ONES TO OBTAIN. BUT WE DID TRY AND WE DID GET IT ONE TIME BUT THEY DID NOT RENEW IT.

>> MALE SPEAKER: OKAY. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE LIKE A PERMANENT THING NOW, FROM NOW ON? A SOME HOW THEY NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF GRANT TO STILL TRY TO COVER THIS, TO TRY TO COVER IT.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: WHAT WE CALL HIM AND ASK IF HE CAN COME AND TALK TO US ON THE PHONE IN ABOUT 30 MINUTES OR SO, CALL WILLIAM AND SEE IF HE CAN DO THAT SO WE CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE SITUATION. YOU NAILED IT, DALE.

THE ISSUE IS THAT WE ARE AT, WE ARE NONCOMPLIANCE WITH JAIL STANDARDS. LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN: WE ARE NOT COMPLIANT WITH JAIL STANDARDS.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO CHANGE THAT?

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WANTING TO DO THAT -- >> MALE SPEAKER: I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT, JUDGE. YOU NEED THESE PEOPLE.

UNIT PEOPLE HERE TOO. WHAT I AM SAYING IS HE'S GONE FROM 30 PERCENT TO KNOW 100 PERCENT.

OKAY, FINE. SO IS THIS GOING TO BE PART OF

THE BUDGET NOW? >> FEMALE SPEAKER: EVERY YEAR

YOU HAVE TO REEVALUATE. >> MALE SPEAKER: I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH THE CONCEPT. I'VE BEEN ON PROBATION BEFORE.

I KNOW HOW IT WORKS. BUT THE THING IS, IS THERE ANYWAY WE CAN GET MORE HELP? WHY NOT FIND IT?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: I DON'T THINK ANYONE --

>> MALE SPEAKER: I'M NOT SAYING ANYONE IS WRONG.

UNDER SAYING THIS IS A GOOD PROGRAM, BUT WE NEED MORE HELP.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: THAT IS WHAT OUR -- THAT'S WHY IT SAYS ARE PUT THE QUESTION MARK ON IT.

THAT IS IN MANY WAYS THE FEDERAL HELP THAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR.T'S FOR TWO YEARS AND IT COULD GET US BACK ON OUR FEET WITH THIS THIRD PRETRIAL RISK ASSESSMENT OFFICER, IF WE CAN GET A QUALIFIED, WHICH I BELIEVE WE CAN, YOU GO BACK TO THE SAME LOGIC. IS IT A GOVERNMENT SERVICE, YES. CAN IT BE FUNDED WITH ART FROM LOST REVENUES?YES. SO THAT'S WHY I SAY TO YOU, IT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR.

WHEN YOU START THE GRANT PROCESS, IT STARTS IN COURT.

FROM THAT MOMENT TO THE TIME THE GRANT COMES COULD BE A YEAR. THAT'S HOW LONG THE CYCLE TAKES. IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE NEED NOW, WE HAVE AWAY, AND THAT IS ARPA AND THAT'S WHY THE ACRONYM

IS RIGHT THERE NEXT TO IT. >> MALE SPEAKER: THAT'S ALSO THE REASON WE PUT THE QUESTION MARK IS THE RISK ASSESSMENT ALSOTESTS AS MENTAL HEALTH AND MENTAL HEALTH IS A DIFFERENT

FOREIGN AREA OF THE ARPA FUNDS. >> MALE SPEAKER: BUT THEY HAVE BOWLHAVE TO BE LABELED MENTAL HEALTH.

>> MALE SPEAKER: WHEN THEY DO THE RISK ASSESSMENT, THEY DO RISK ASSESSMENT TO DETERMINE, DO THEY FIRST REALLY BELONG IN JAIL? IF THEY ARE THERE FOR A REASON, CAN WE FIND ANOTHER LOCATION TO PUT THEM IN, WHETHER IT'S FOR MENTAL HEALTH OR WHATEVER OTHER SITUATION THEY MAY BE GOING THROUGH? THEY WILL -- LOCKED UP IN THE COUNTY JAIL.HAT'S WHAT RISK ASSESSMENT GOES THROUGH.

THAT'S WHAT WE FEEL THE ARPA FUNDS CAN COVER THIS FOR THE

NEXT FEW YEARS POSSIBLY. >> MALE SPEAKER: ARE WE FOR

SURE THAT ARPA WILL COVER IT? >> MALE SPEAKER: WE ARE IN NEGOTIATIONS OF -- REVIEWING THAT AT THE MOMENT.ND AS THE JUDGE SAID, WE HAVE THE LOST REVENUE THAT HAS A LITTLE MORE LENIENCY THAN THE REGULAR ARPA FUNDS.UT THE SB IS FOR CERTAIN SITUATIONS.FTER THE JUDGE WAS SAYING, THE JUDGE ASSERTED TALK TO THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS HAGGERTY AS WELL AS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THESE ARE ALL QUALIFYING EVENTS AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE TRYING TO FINALIZE THE QUALIFICATION.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: THIS HAS THAT TWO FACTOR, WE WILL CLAIM IT'S A MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMMING.

BUT REMEMBER, AND I DON'T HAVE MY PHONE SO I CANNOT DO MY CALCULATION, ALTHOUGH -- THAT IS NOT A CALCULATOR.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT $80 A DAY IN JAIL, WHAT THESE PEOPLE DO IS HELP EXPEDITE PEOPLE OUT OF JAIL.

AND IF YOU ARE 99 PERCENT FULL IN YOUR JAIL, YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH REAL SOLUTIONS ON HOW TO GET PEOPLE EXPEDITED THAT DON'T NEED TO BE IN JAIL. THIS IS HOW WE DO IT, THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT'S CORRECT, AND WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS THAT IF WILLIAM HAD THE WAY, HAVE THE MEANS, HE WOULD NOT BE ASKING. THIS IS A DEPARTMENT THAT WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH ALL YEAR LONG.

SOMETIMES HE SAYS I'VE GOT IT, YOU DON'T NEED TO HELP.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR.

HE IS ASKING FOR OUR HELP BECAUSE HE BELIEVES IT NEEDS TO BE BUDGETED FOR. THE REASON WE PUT ARPA IS TO HOPEFULLY COME OUT OF THIS BUDGET WORKSHOP UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE AT LEAST ON THIS LITTLE SLIDE 305, $1 MILLION, CLOSE TO $1 MILLION OF POTENTIALS THAT CAN COME OFF OF THIS LIST AND ONTO, INTO ANOTHER BUCKET.

SO -- >> FEMALE SPEAKER: JUDGE, ALSO, THIS POSITION IS NOT NEEDED BY CS CD.

THEY ARE RECOMMENDING THE POSITION TO FACILITATE THE COUNTY TO MOVE THE PEOPLE OUT OF THE JAIL.

THEY DON'T NEED THIS POSITION. T'S A RECOMMENDATION TO HELP

THE COUNTY. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: YEAH.

>> MALE SPEAKER: TO RELEASE THE INMATES?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: TO HELP ASSESSMENT TO GET PEOPLE

MOVING. >> MALE SPEAKER: HOW SURE ARE WE THAT WHEN THEY EXPEDITE THIS INMATES OUT, ARE THEY READY TO GO OUT, REALLY? OR ARE THEY JUST EXPEDITED --

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THEY ARE PROFESSIONALLY ASSESSED AND THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF SAFEGUARDS INCLUDING THE MAGISTRATES THAT MAKE CERTAIN

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THIS IS WHAT THEY DO. THESE RISKS IS ALSO TRAINED PROPERLY AND WE HAVE TO HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE LAW AND FOLLOWING THE RISK ASSESSMENT THAT IS SET

OUT PROVIDED BY THE LAW. >> MALE SPEAKER: THAT'S WHAT I'VE HEARD IN THE PAST FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

IT IS A REVOLVING DOOR. ONE OF AND THEN BACK IN FOR THE SAME PROBLEM. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THEY SAY, YES, THIS PERSON IS READY TO GO OUT TO THE

PUBLIC -- >> FEMALE SPEAKER: SO --

>> MALE SPEAKER: -- HE WILL REACT THAT WAY BUT, BUT I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE FALL BACK TO YOUR SICKNESS OR WHATEVER.

WHATEVER THEY ARE DOING, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS

AN EXPEDITE -- >> FEMALE SPEAKER: THERE WAS A REVOLVING DOOR AND IT'S VERY REAL AND UNTIL WE GET TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROBLEMS AND UNTIL WE HAVE A REAL DIVERSION CENTER THAT REVOLVING DOOR WILL CONTINUE. BUT IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT IF THEY DON'T BELONG IN JAIL, THEY DON'T BELONG IN JAIL. WE NEED TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH, WHICH IS WHY WHEN WE GET THERE AFTER BUDGET, YOU WILL SEE A RECOMMENDATION FROM LEVELER MEH I.D., EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, HOSPITAL DISTRICT, AND PROBABLY SEE CPD TO GET WITH IT AND DEDICATE SOME OF THESE ARPA FUNDS FOR A JAIL DIVERSION CENTER. YOU CANNOT DO ONE THING AND MAKE EVERYTHING BAD GO AWAY. BUT THIS IS DEFINITELY A BEGINNING TO MAKE SOME POSITIVE CHANGE.

>> MALE SPEAKER: I AGREE, I AGREE.

I ALSO AGREE WE NEED HOUSING FOR THESE PEOPLE SO THEY CAN BE

MONITORED, MAYBE. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: YES.

>> MALE SPEAKER: MAYBE A HALFWAY HOUSE OR SOMETHING LIKE

THAT. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: YES.

>> MALE SPEAKER: BUT I AM CONCERNED THAT THEY ARE JUST

NOT -- >> FEMALE SPEAKER: I REALLY THINK WE WOULD BENEFIT BY HAVING -- AND THAT IS ALWAYS -- SOMETIMES WE DON'T NO WHO WE NEED FOR ANSWERING QUESTIONS.

EXCUSE ME. I WILL HAVE A QUICK RECESS.

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(RECESS.) >> FEMALE SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, WILL YOU BE MAKING COMMENT AS WELL?

COMMISSIONER CHESNEY? >> MALE SPEAKER: SORRY, I'M TRYING -- CAN YOU HEAR ME?> FEMALE SPEAKER: YES.

WILLIAM BE MAKING A COMMENT, COPY TO STOP FOR YOU WHEN IT'S

YOUR TURN. >> MALE SPEAKER: I WAS NOT AWARE THAT I WAS ABLE TO DO WHAT YOU JUST DID, SO I DID NOT. IF I FIND THERE IS A WAY TO DO THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BUT OBVIOUSLY I WAS OUT YESTERDAY

AND DID NOT KNOW. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: YES, I'M

SORRY. >> MALE SPEAKER: IT'S NOT YOUR

FAULT. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: WE WILL SEND YOU SOMETHING.UST LOOK ON YOUR EMAIL.

MAGGIE IN A MOMENT WILL CALL YOU AND YOU CAN MUTE AND SHE CAN SEE IF SHE CAN HELP MAKE THAT ARRANGEMENT FOR YOU.

>> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: YES.

BACK IN THE SADDLE HERE, WE GO BACK AND WE ARE READY TO TALK ABOUT PRIOR YEAR POSITIONS. DO YOU WANT TO GO THERE? CAN SOMEONE TELL ME THE TAB? IS THAT L?

NO, L? >> MALE SPEAKER: IT'S ACTUALLY IN YOUR SUBTITLES, THE ACTUAL LIST IS ONLY 18 WHERE ALL OF THE MIDYEAR CHANGES HAVE DONE AND THE PERIOD OF TIME THEY

COVERED. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: LET'S LOOK THERE AND SEE IF THERE IS ANY THAT ARE CAUSING CONCERN, BECAUSE HIS OPPOSITIONS THAT WE ALREADY, WE MADE A DECISION DURING THE LAST YEAR THAT IT WAS AN IMPORTANT DECISION TO MAKE. AND SO, IF WE CAN ASSUME THAT ALL OF THESE WILL STAY, THEN WE CAN CONCENTRATE ON THE LAST TWO SUBITEMS. THE STATE COST THE COUNTY BUDGET $267,000 CUMULATIVELY, AND THEY ARE ALL LISTED ON B 18 AND ALL THE WAY THROUGH B 20. B THROUGH B B 20.

TAKE A QUICK LOOK, BECAUSE AS THEY SAY, THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS. I DON'T MIND GETTING PEOPLE IN HERE TO JUSTIFY WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE TAX OFFICE HAD A VERY SMALL NET SITUATION OF $200.

OH, GOOD. GOOD.

HE JUST LEFT. CAN HE HANG ON FOR A FEW MINUTES? $200, PRECINCT 2, $700.

CHAPTER 59, HATE TO ARGUE WITH THAT ONE.

THAT'S NOT EVEN COMING OUT OF HOURS.

THAT'S JUST A BUDGETARY ASSIGNMENT THERE FROM THE FORFEITURE FUND. COUNTY COURT AT LAW, FIVE.

JUDGE MCLEOD HE'S, MCKAY NO MAINTENANCE DISTRICT CLERK, VERY NOMINAL. THE BIG TICKET ITEM IS THE ME OFFICE, SHERIFF'S OFFICE. WE ADDED -- WITH THAT WAS CHIEF COOK, RIGHT? NO?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR, IT WOULD BE ADDING THE CHIEF, CORRECT. WE RESIGNED VENICE, ASSISTANT

CHIEF TO CHIEF. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: SO IT'S

REALLY JUST A CHANGE. >> MALE SPEAKER: IT WAS NOT A

SIGNIFICANT INCREASE. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: RIGHT.

THEN WE MADE $62,000 CHANGESFOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY.

YOU REMEMBER THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE JUVENILE, SO WE HELP THEM AND CREATED NEW COSTS BUT TOTAL OF 62,000.

>> MALE SPEAKER: THE LARGEST ONE WERE THE TWO FOR THE MEDICAL EXAMINER. THAT WOULD BE THE PATHOLOGY ASSISTANT, THE AUTOPSY ASSISTANT AND THAT WAS DONE AND I BELIEVE JANUARY, IF I REMEMBER WHAT TERESA HAD MENTIONED. AND EARLY '90S POSITIONS ARE FILLED AND ARE CURRENTLY, CURRENTLY USING THESE TWO

POSITIONS. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: OKAY.

>> MALE SPEAKER: THEY DID HAVE FUNDS LAST YEAR TO REARRANGE,

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HOWEVER, TO MAINTAIN THESE TWO POSITIONS, CURRENTLY WE HAD TO INCREASE THE BUDGET BY THAT AMOUNT FOR THE NEXT FISCAL

YEAR. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: WE WERE GOOD FOR ONE YEAR BUT NOT FOR FUTURE YEARS.

>> MALE SPEAKER: ASSISTANT CHIEF FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME

WAS ABLE TO COVER THESE COSTS. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: RIGHT.

AND I WOULD REMIND THE COURT THAT IN ORDER TO DO AS MANY AUTOPSIES AS WE HAVE, AND I HAVE MY LITTLE, LITTLE -- FROM DECEMBER 16, WE HAD A PRESENTATION.

AND OUR DECEDENT LOAD NOW IS 853 PER YEAR.

IN ORDER TO DO THAT MANY AUTOPSIES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE MULTIPLE PATHOLOGISTS JUST TO HAVE CERTIFICATION.

SO ALTHOUGH IT IS A PAINFUL MAY BE PRICE TAG, UNFORTUNATELY IT IS JUST THE SAME WAY YOU FEEL ABOUT PERHAPS OTHER COSTS THAT WE PAY THAT ARE UNFUNDED MANDATES.

BUT WE DO, WE DO HAVE THIS VERY HIGH LOAD.

AND WITH POPULATION GROWTH, IT IS PREDICTED IN UNDER 10 YEARS TO DO A TOTAL OF 947. SO THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE WILL ONLY CONTINUE TO GROW.

SO WE WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT.

BUT THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT PRESENTATION THAT WE HAD, DEALING WITH GROWTH. AGAIN, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY PATHOLOGISTS IN ORDER TO -- IF ELECTORAL IS 250, 250 PER.

>> MALE SPEAKER: YES. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: TO MAINTAIN

YOUR CERTIFICATION. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: TO MAINTAIN YOUR CERTIFICATION. TAKE CARE 100 MILE RADIUS.

AGAIN, I HAVE A LITTLE MAP, IT'S AMAZING HOW MANY PEOPLE WE TAKE CARE OF. AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I -- IT'S ON MY LEGISLATIVE AGENDA LIST FOR NEXT SESSION.

HOW CAN WE GET A LITTLE MONEY TO HELP A REGIONAL? IF IT WAS JUST US, THAT IS OUR BUSINESS.

BUT LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE DOING. YOU KNOW, I WILL PUT IT UP HERE. WE ARE LIVE OR NOT? TO THE PUBLIC, YES? I WILL SHOW YOU ALL THAT IS IN BLUE HERE ARE THE AREAS OF THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE COVERS. AND SO, IT IS A HUGE AREA.

THAT IS WHY OUR LOAD, EVEN THOUGH 90 PERCENT ARE NUECES COUNTY DECEDENTS, WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE THAT RATIO OF ONE PATHOLOGISTS FOR 250 DECEDENTS. SO THAT IS WHY WE HAD TO ADD.

WE WERE SHORT, IF YOU WILL.E WERE RUNNING WITH ONLY A PART TIMER AND A FULL TIMER, AND NOW WE HAVE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS.

IT WILL COST THE COUNTY SOME DOLLARS.

AND I PREDICT WE WILL NEED 1/3, BECAUSE IF YOU TAKE 250C, IT IS 750. AGAIN, WE ARE AVERAGING ON BODIES THIS YEAR. WHAT DID I SAY? I HAVE TO FLIP BACK TO THE PAGE.

VERY HIGH NUMBERS. >> MALE SPEAKER: MOST OF THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S ORIGINAL TO BEGIN WITH.

WE ARE ONE IN THE REGION AND THE NEXT CLOSEST DESPAIR COUNTY THAT HARRIS COUNTY, THEN DOWN THE VALLEY WE MAY HAVE -- WE HAVE TO CALL THE SMELL COUNTIES BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD THE ENTIRE OPERATION OF MEDICAL EXAMINERS.

IT'S DEFINITELY REGIONAL. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: RIGHT.

WE ARE DOING 722. YOU CAN SEE WE NEED THREE, NOT TWO. AND SO, AGAIN, THIS IS WHY IT'S GOING TO BE AN IMPORTANT ISSUE TO DEAL WITH, IS HOW WE ARE

GOING TO -- >> MALE SPEAKER: CURRENTLY WITH LOCAL TO MEDICAL EXAMINER AND WE RECENTLY HIRED THE CHIEF ASSISTANT. THIS PATHOLOGY ASSISTANT, WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. BUT THESE ARE NOT KEY

POSITIONS. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: NO, THEY ARE NOT. BUT THEY'RE ALL KINDS OF GOOD IDEAS THAT HAVE RESULTED FROM THIS DISCUSSION.

I DO THINK A REALLY STRONG DISCUSSION WITH HIDALGO COUNTY, FOR INSTANCE, AND SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAVE LEANED ON US, EVEN IN TIMES OF CRISIS, YOU KNOW, I HAVE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT STANDBY PRICING, YOU KNOW.

WITH EQUIPMENT, MAYBE WE OUGHT TO HAVE STANDBY PRICING.

IN OTHER WORDS, JUST TO BE ABLE TO SAY I WANT TO EXECUTE IN OUR LOCAL WITH YOU, MAYBE IT SHOULD BE A COST FOR THAT.

THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN SIT AND LOOK AT THIS, BUT THERE IS NO WAY AROUND NOT HAVING THE RIGHT RATIO.

AGAIN, WE ARE -- I HAVE TO FIND THE RIGHT SLIDE, BUT WE ARE THE LIONS SHARE IN NUECES COUNTY. SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR LOAD, IT IS 609, AND ALL THE OTHER COUNTIES ARE, SEE, 244.

THAT IS THE RATIO. WERE DOING 609, AND THEN ALL

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THAT REPRESENTS A PARTNER POPULATION OF OVER 1.6 MILLION PEOPLE. AGAIN, I WILL ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU GOT THIS BACK IN DECEMBER, THIS NOTEBOOK, BUT IT IS A GOOD IDEA WHEN YOU ARE IN BUDGET, WHEN YOU SAY DO WE REALLY NEED THIS, YOU'VE GOT TO GO BACK TO THE DATA.

THE DATA, THE DATA TELLS YOU WHAT YOU NEED.

AND THIS IS A VERY, VERY GOOD -- IF WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO ANY COMMISSIONER WHO DID NOT GET IT, LET US KNOW.

OKAY. OTHER THAN THAT, DOES EVERYBODY FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THESE POSITIONS THAT WE NAMED LAST YEAR WILL HAVE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS YEAR'S BUDGET? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? BECAUSE THAT AT LEAST TAKES US

-- >> MALE SPEAKER: CAN YOU EXPLAIN ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE DO, THESE AGREEMENTS HAVE, LOCAL AGREEMENTS, WHY ARE THEY ALWAYS IN THE RED?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: WHAT WAS THE QUESTION?

>> MALE SPEAKER: WHY ARE THEY ALWAYS IN THE RED?>> MALE

SPEAKER: WHAT IS READ? >> MALE SPEAKER: THE MEDICAL

EXAMINER. >> MALE SPEAKER: RED IS REDUCTION OF THE OST INSTEAD OF INCREASED COST.

IF IT'S RED, IT'S A REDUCTION. >> MALE SPEAKER: BUT I'M SAYING THE REVENUES THAT COME IN, I MEAN, THEY ARE DOING ALL OF THAT WORK, IF THE REVENUES NOT PAYING FOR ANYTHING, WHAT

ARE WE STANDING THERE? >> MALE SPEAKER: LIKE ANY OTHER COUNTY OFFICE, THE MEDICAL EXAMINER DOES NOT MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO RUN THE ENTIRE OFFICE.

THEY RECEIVE MONEY FROM OUTSIDE ENTITIES.

WE ARE WORKING ON GETTING REVENUE COSTS SCENARIO.

MY STAFF IS WORKING ON THAT NOW TO GET YOU THE INFORMATION.

THE MAIN REVENUE FOR THIS IS AUTOPSIES OF OTHER OUTSIDE COUNTIES. AND I WOULD NOT SAY THE EXACT AMOUNT, BUT ANYWHERE WE RECEIVED ABOUT SIX OR EIGHT OR $10,000 A YEAR OF REVENUE, 20 PERCENT OR 48 PERCENT GOES TO THE COMMISSION. I ASSUME IT'S $400-$500,000 OF REVENUE. BUT THE TOTAL OFFICE IS 1.5 MILLION. SEMEDO SIMILAR TO OTHER COUNTY DEFERMENTS, THE OFFICE DOES NOT MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO TOTALLY OPERATE ITSELF FISCALLY. SO IT'S MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND AS MANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS TO.

>> MALE SPEAKER: [INAUDIBLE] >> MALE SPEAKER: WAY MORE THAN THAT. IS A GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENT.

IT'S A GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENT. >> MALE SPEAKER: YEAH.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: MAY I TELL YOU THAT I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH ON THIS TO SHOW YOU HOW OFF WE ARE ON OUR FACE? SO LET'S TAKE, AND I'M SORRY, SOME OF THEM ARE OFF AND SOME OF THEM ARE NOT, DEPENDING ON WHICH COUNTY YOU ARE LOOKING AT. BUT I COMPARED US TO COUNTIES OF SIMILAR POPULATION, AND I COMPARED US TO LARGER COUNTIES.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU, BECAUSE IT'S EASIER TO DO SO. BUT FOR THE EXAM, FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT THEY CALL A NATURAL LEVEL I AUTOPSY, WE CHARGE 2600.

BEAR, 2500. TRAVIS, 2300, GALVESTON, 2500.

IF YOU AFTER ALL, BY THE WAY, PARENT WITH 1600.

IF YOU AVERAGE THEM ALL, WE ARE PERFECTLY ALMOST LEVEL.

WERE NOT THE HIGHEST, NOT THE LOWEST, BUT WE ARE RIGHT THERE IN THE MEDIAN. FOR THE UNNATURAL AUTOPSY, WE ARE THE HIGHEST OF ALL OF THOSE COUNTIES AT 3600.

FOR AN EXTERNAL EXAM, I WOULD SAY WE ARE ALSO THE HIGHEST.

AND I COMPARED US TO, AGAIN, COUNTIES THAT WERE BIG AND COUNTIES OF SIMILAR POPULATION. I ALSO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I LOOKED AT THE STATUTES OF CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE.

AND MEDICAL EXAMINER MAY CHARGE REASONABLE FEES FOR SERVICES PROVIDED BY THE OFFICE UNDER THIS ARTICLE AND LIST WHAT THEY MAY CHARGE. IN COMMISSIONERS COURT MUST APPROVE THE AMOUNT OF THE FEE BEFORE THE FEE MAY BE ASSESSED.

THE FEE MAY NOT EXCEED THE AMOUNT NECESSARY TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES. AND IT MAY NOT BE ASSESSED AGAINST THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OR ANY COUNTY OFFICE.

SO WE HAVE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF HOMEWORK HERE TO SHOWCASE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT FEES FROM REPORTS, ALL THE WAY TO TESTIMONY, TOXICOLOGY AND LAB, AND I AM STILL WORKING ON ALL OF THE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, COMPARISONS.

BUT AGAIN, IT IS GREAT WHEN YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL OF THESE.

AND I WANT TO THANK RACHEL IN MY OFFICE BEFORE SHE LEFT FOR HELPING ME WITH THIS. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS IS THAT WE ARE NOT OUT OF RANGE DEPENDING ON HOW YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT. BUT THERE ARE, IT IS UNFAIR,

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BUT IT IS NO DIFFERENT THAN ASKING VETERAN SERVICES OR ANY OTHER SERVICE, I MEAN, DO YOU MAKE ANY MONEY OR TO HELP PEOPLE? WE DON'T MAKE MONEY HERE.

THE ONLY WAY I SEE US MAKING MONEY IS THROUGH THE LABORATORY, WHICH I HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS NOW. WE CAN MAKE MONEY ONLINE WORK, BECAUSE WE CAN HELP PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE STATE IF WE CAN FIND A NICHE OF WHAT THEY NEED AND WHAT IS NOT AVAILABLE.

AND I THINK THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE IN OUR FUTURE IF YOU WANT TO SEE YOUR BUDGET GET BETTER CONTROLLED.

BUT AS WE GROW, THE SERVICES WILL EXPAND, UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE GROWTH MEANS MORE PEOPLE DYING.

AND ALSO, WHEN YOUR COMMUNITY IS THREE TIMES MORE LIKELY TO HAVE A DRUG OVERDOSE THAN ANY OTHER COUNTY IN TEXAS, GUESS WHAT HAPPENS. YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE DYING AND NEEDING AUTOPSIES. AND SO, WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS THAT THERE IS A POTENTIAL POSSIBILITY TO IN OUR OPIOID SETTLEMENT PERHAPS ALSO SEE SOME DOLLARS BE SOME ED FOR THE SERVICE.IF YOU CAN SHOW THE DATA, SO EVERY TIME WE BRING UP DATA AND EVERYBODY WONDERS WHY WE DO THAT AND WHY WE SPEND MONEY ON REPORTS, WELL, IF YOU WANT TO GET GRANTS OR WANT THE LEGISLATURE TO GIVE YOU DOLLARS, YOU BETTER BE ABLE TO PROVE IT. BUT ANYWAY, THERE WAS NOTHING WE CAN DO HERE EXCEPT FOR PLAN FOR GROWTH, PLAN FOR MORE DOLLARS HERE. IT IS A NECESSARY EVIL, I SUPPOSE, HERE. I WILL SEND IT TO YOU, TYNDER, SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE. ANOTHER COURT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT OUR FEES VERSUS EVERYBODY ELSE'S

AND WHAT THE AUTHORITY IS. >> MALE SPEAKER: SO THOSE POSITIONS THEY HAD, WE GOT TO BRING THEM BACK UP.> MALE SPEAKER: IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THE SERVICES, YES.

THEY ARE CURRENTLY EMPLOYED. IF YOU WILL DECIDE THE POSITION IS NO LONGER NECESSARY, THEY NEED TO BE TERMINATED AND

PEOPLE ARE FIRED. >> MALE SPEAKER: BOTH OF THEM

WERE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES? >> MALE SPEAKER: THAT IS

CORRECT. >> MALE SPEAKER: I THOUGHT YOU

HAD TO HAVE TEMPORARIES. >> MALE SPEAKER: THEY ARE TEMPORARIES. BEFORE HE HIRED THE ASSISTANT MEDICAL EXAMINER, THERE WAS, IT WAS JUST HIM DOING SOME AUTOPSIES AND WE HAD TO HAVE, BECAUSE THAT OFFICE RUNS PRETTY MUCH SEVEN DAYS A WEEK DURING THE WEEKEND, WE HAD HAVE TEMPORARY SERVICES, AND AND CONTINUE PERFORMING AUTOPSIES.

ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A VERY LARGE BUDGET.

SO IT CONSTANTLY HAD TEMPORARY SERVICES AND THEREFORE THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR, AND AS YOU BEEN SEEING ON BUDGET CHANGE ORDERS, WE HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO BRING A LOT OF BUDGET CHANGE ORDERS FOR TEMPORARY SERVICES FOR THE

PURPOSE. >> MALE SPEAKER: BRINGING THOSE TWO ON BOARD, STILL HAVING A PROBLEM, NOT A PROBLEM, BUT BUT AN ISSUE OF TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES.

>> MALE SPEAKER: STILL HAD TO HAVE, THE PATHOLOGY ASSISTANT IS THE ASSISTANT. SO HE TOLD ME HE STILL HAS TO HIRE THE ADDITIONAL ASSISTANT MEDICAL EXAMINER THAT ACTUALLY IS A MEDICAL EXAMINER, WHICH HE RECENTLY DID.

SO I AM SURE THAT SOME OF THE TEMPORARY SERVICES CAN BE DECREASED, BUT THERE IS SUPPOSEDLY A NEED FOR SOMEONE ON THE WEEKENDS TO DO THE SERVICES.

WE HAVE TO CONTINUES, YES. >> MALE SPEAKER: THEY DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ON CALL FOR THE WEEKENDS?

I MEAN THE REGULAR PEOPLE? >> MALE SPEAKER: THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE ON CALL. +10 PERCENT WAS ON CALL WAS OUT

OF WEST TEXAS. >> MALE SPEAKER: MY GOODNESS.

>> MALE SPEAKER: THAT'S THE CLOSEST WE COULD FIND ONE.

>> MALE SPEAKER: OKAY. INTO THIS OTHER COUNTIES THAT WERE MENTIONED BY THE JUDGE, THERE ARE MEDICAL EXAMINERS, TO GET THE SAME PERCENTAGE AS OUR MEDICAL EXAMINER DOES?

>> MALE SPEAKER: I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY CHARGE.

THE PROCTOLOGIST MAY CHARGE AN AGREEMENT.

BUT WHEN WE FIRST CAME IN THE ASSOCIATION WITH OUR MEDICAL EXAMINER FOR OUTSIDE MDS, MEDICAL CENTER CAME BEFORE THE COURT AND NEGOTIATED A CONTRACT WITH THE COURT SAYING IF I DO THE AUTOPSIES. [INAUDIBLE] I SHOULD GET SO MUCH PERCENTAGE OF THE REVENUE COMING IN TO COVER MY SERVICES, BECAUSE I'M DOING EXTRA WORK FOR THE COUNTY.

SO THAT WAS THE AGREEMENT WITH THE COURT.

I CANNOT TELL YOU WHAT THE OTHER COUNTIES ARE CHARGING.

I'M NOT AWARE BUT. THE DISAGREEMENT WITH THE OLD, Y'ALL CAN DEFINITELY POSSIBLY BRING IN DR. SHAKER AND SEE ABOUT RENEGOTIATING THAT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL, AND Y'ALL'S CONTROL AND HOW IT WORKS.

RIGHT NOW TO 60-40 SPLIT. >> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU FOR

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YES. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: WE COULD EVEN HAVE A NEW AGREEMENT THAT SAYS IF YOU PERFORM AN AUTOPSY, THEN THERE IS -- I MEAN I NEED TO MAKE SURE WHAT OUR PARAMETERS ARE STATUTORILY, BUT MAYBE THE COUNTY CAN ALSO HAVE SOME SORT OF A FEE FOR USING THE FACILITIES THAT WE ARE DOING. I MEAN, IT IS ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY, OR -- BUT WE NEED TO, AGAIN --

>> MALE SPEAKER: THAT'S WHAT THE COST IS FOR FOR THE AUTOPSY, USE OF THE FACILITY AND THE STAFF.

SO AS I SAID, WE ARE PROBABLY THE HIGHEST ON SEVERAL OF THEM.

SO I DON'T SEE -- WE MAY STILL LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE WHAT OTHER ENTITIES ARE DOING, BUT THAT SUPPOSED TO BE COVERING PART OF THE COST AS WELL AS MEDICAL STAFF DOING THE WORK.

>> MALE SPEAKER: DOING THE RESEARCH TOO TO SEE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. ANYTHING THAT COMES INTO THE

COUNTY WILL HELP US. >> MALE SPEAKER: CURRENTLY, I DID IT REAL FAST, REVENUE SCENARIO FOR RIGHT NOW FOR THIS PARTICULAR OFFICE. RECEIVED $670,000 OF INCOME AS

OF TODAY. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: 670?

>> MALE SPEAKER: 670,000 THE BUDGET IS 1.4, 1.8 MILLION DOLLARS. CC WE ARE STILL SHORT, TWO ON THE TOTAL EXPENSES TO REVENUES. BUT CURRENTLY THE AUTOPSY FEES, LAB FEES, EXPERT FEES AND OTHER REIMBURSEMENTS THAT THE MEDICAL EXAMINER CAN CHARGE, WE HAVE RECEIVED $635,000 OF INCOME.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: THAT IS GOOD.

THERE ARE NOT MANY SERVICE, MANY DEPARTMENTS THAT CREATE INCOME. SO THIS ONE AT LEAST CAN DO SOMETHING. AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE ARE LOOKING AT SOFTWARE. DARRELL YEARWOOD, I KNOW IF YOU'RE LISTENING, YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME SOFTWARE WITH THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE TO DO MORE HIGHER EFFICIENCIES AND STREAMLINING. AGAIN, I MEAN, THERE ARE MANY WAYS. IT STARTS WITH MODERNIZATION.

SO I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.

BUT I DID WANT TO KNOW IF OUR FEES WERE TOO OFTEN AND WHAT I DISCOVERED IS THAT WE ARE GETTING JUST FINE.

THERE IS NO INEQUITIES ON OUR PART.

>> MALE SPEAKER: JUDGE, YOU SAID WE COULD HAVE A LAB IN TO CHARGE MORE. WE DO GET REIMBURSEMENTS FROM THE LAB. IF WE HAD THE LAB FOR AN AUTOPSY OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY, WE CHARGE THEM FOR THAT.

SO WE HAVE SOME. [INAUDIBLE] AND AT THE COURT IS LOOKING AT GETTING NEW BILLING AND WE CAN MAYBE WORK WITH THE UNIVERSITY ON HAVING WERE WE HAVE A TEACHING SCHOOL THERE AND WORK WITH THEM AND GET MONEY THERE.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU, DALE.

GOOD EXPLANATION. LIKE YOU SAID, I'M GOING TO REFER YOU GUYS BACK TO THE SMITH GROUP'S FEASIBILITY.

GO BACK AND READ IT. IT REALLY PRESENTS THE CASE THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE COULD USE SOME HELP REGIONALLY.

THE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO ESTABLISH A CENTER.

MONEY DOES NOT COME FOR NOTHING.

I THINK THAT IS THE SONG, TYNDER.

BUT YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A REASON TO GET MONEY OR GET GRANTS, AND THAT'S WHY A CENTER OF EXCELLENCE IN BEHAVIORAL HEALTH IS GREAT. THAT'S WHY IT'S ALSO GREAT TO HAVE A CENTER FOR PATHOLOGY. THESE ARE THE TWO AREAS.

WE WILL NEVER GET A MEDICAL SCHOOL HERE, NEVER.

BUT WE CAN BE CENTERS OF MEDICAL EXCELLENCE WHERE WE COULD HAVE MEDICAL SCHOOL STUDENTS AND ALSO RESIDENCY AND FELLOWSHIP PROGRAMS. AND IF WE CAN CONCENTRATE THERE AND DESIGNED FOR OUR FUTURE, THEN YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR REVENUE. BUT NO ONE IS JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU MONEY FOR NOTHING. YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CREATE A REASON, AND THAT IS WHY THE SMITH GROUP'S WORK SHOULD NOT BE HELD IN VAIN. WE SHOULD FIND AFTER WE COME OUT OF THIS HORRIBLE PANDEMIC, WE NEED TO REFOCUS AND REPURPOSE OURSELVES TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO WORK WITH OTHER PARTNERS TO GET THAT ESTABLISHED.

>> MALE SPEAKER: EXCUSE ME, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN JOIN FORCES, LIKE, WITH THE HOSPITAL IN THEIR PATHOLOGY?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: SO THEY ARE NOT A TEACHING INSTITUTION.

BUT THEY DO RECEIVE RESIDENCY PROGRAMS. BUT THERE IS NOT A PATHOLOGY RESIDENCY PROGRAM.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING, IS FORMING AN ALLIANCE WITH TEXAS A&M, OF WHICH SPOHN COULD PARTICIPATE.

BUT THE PATHOLOGY, WE DO THE PATHOLOGY.

>> MALE SPEAKER: BUT WE SEND IT OFF TOO.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: YOU MEAN LIKE THE LAB WORK, WE SEND OFF QUITE A BIT. BUT FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE 10 LABS IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS THAT ARE MOLECULAR DIAGNOSTIC LABS. WE HAVE ONE OF THEM HERE.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE HAVE BEEN SPECIAL AND HOW WE GET RESOURCES FOR COVID-19. BUT WE CAN TEST FOR TONS OF

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US. >> MALE SPEAKER: CELESTINE DR.

SHAIKH WAS HERE, HE SAID HE HAD TO SEND THE LAB WORK UP

SOMEWHERE -- >> FEMALE SPEAKER: CORRECT.

>> MALE SPEAKER: HUNDREDS OF MILES AWAY.

WONDERING IF WE COULD GET IT DONE HERE LOCALLY.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: IF WE HAD THE RIGHT FACILITY, RED

EQUIPMENT, THE ANSWER IS YES. >> MALE SPEAKER: HE HAS TO SEND A LOT OF IT TO THE HOSPITAL.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: YEAH. WE CAN DEFINITELY DO IT.

I MEAN, WE DO THINGS THAT NOBODY DOES ON THE WHOLE WORLD AND WE DO IT RIGHT HERE IN CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS, LIKE REPAIR HELICOPTERS, LIKE WE CAN BE THAT.

WHAT YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY THINK THAT YOU CAN DO IT AND STRATEGIZE AND BUILD AND FINANCE IT.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: THIS WAS MY THINKING, OF JOINING FORCES WITH SPOHN OR ANY OTHER HOSPITALSWHO WILL WORK WITH US.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: RIGHT. IS JUST THAT THE SPOHN DOES NOT HAVE, YOU KNOW, PATHOLOGISTS ON STAFF.

>> MALE SPEAKER: REALLY? >> FEMALE SPEAKER: NO, BECAUSE WE DO THE AUTOPSIES, THEY DON'T DO THAT.

BUT THEY HAVE A MORGUE.> MALE SPEAKER: NO, NO.

HIGH SCHOOL YEARS, I USED TO WORK AT SPOHN IN THE O.R.

DEPARTMENT. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: REMEMBER IN THE BASEMENT OF MEMORIAL, THAT WAS THE OLD MORGUE.

SO I MEAN -- >> FEMALE SPEAKER: SYMPTOMS A SURGEON WOULD SIT HERE AND TAKE THIS TO PATHOLOGY.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: WE HAVE LABORATORIES, RIGHT.

WE DO HAVE, FORGIVE ME, I WAS THINKING ABOUT A MEDICAL EXAMINER'S, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LABORATORY.

>> MALE SPEAKER: PATHOLOG. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: WE HAVE A STRONG LAB HERE, 19TH AND COMANCHE.

AND I CANNOT SEE WHY WE COULD NOT FIND SOME WAY TO JOIN ORCES. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN LABORATORY, BUT THEY ARE NOT-FOR-PROFIT HOSPITAL.

OUR WORK IS DIFFERENT IN THEIR MANDATES ARE DIFFERENT.

BUT, YES, LIKE WE WORK WITH THEM ON COVID-19 LAB TESTING, I'M CERTAIN THAT IF WE HAD GREAT EQUIPMENT OR THEY HAD GREAT EQUIPMENT AND WE COULD WORK WITH EACH OTHER, WE COULD DO THAT. THEY JUST DON'T DO DNA, I DON'T

BELIEVE. >> MALE SPEAKER: ALREADY.

THANK YOU.OU. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: OKAY.

WE WILL MOVE ON. BUT I WILL ASSUME THAT THERE IS REALLY, THERE IS SUPPORT, DALE, FOR THE POSITIONS THAT WE MADE A DECISION TO CREATE AND/OR RE-CLASS THAT REPRESENT THIS BUDGET. SO IF YOU MOVE ONTO IS IT M?

>> MALE SPEAKER: M IS WHERE WE NOW ARE -- M1, PROPOSED NEW POSITIONS. I DID THE SUMMARY SCHEDULE A . I DID THE SUMMARY SCHEDULE A LITTLE BIT AND N2, THE GENERAL FUND, SO YOU SEE THE PLUSES AND MINUSES OF WHAT WERE BEING ADDED AND DELETED.

YOU SEE THE TOTAL COST PER EACH OF THE FUNDS.

WE DEFINITELY GO THROUGH EACH OF THEM.

I ADDED THE ADDITIONAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT POSITION YOU HAD MENTIONED, JUDGE, FOR --

>> MALE SPEAKER: MAYOR INTERRUPT REAL.

>> ? >> FEMALE SPEAKER: YES, SIR.

>> MALE SPEAKER: JUDGE, CAN I SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK? BASICALLY THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT ALL OF THIS IS I'M STILL DIGESTING EVERYTHING, SO I DON'T WANT TO, AND I'M NOT -- BECAUSE IF YOU GO THROUGH AND ASK ALL OF THESE CATEGORIES AND YOU DON'T HEAR ANYTHING, WE ASSUME, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT I WILL DO ON ANYTHING YET. I WANT MY CELL IS TO BE MISCONSTRUED DOWN THE ROAD. AND STILL KIND OF DIGESTING ALL

OF THIS. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: NO PROBLEM.

JUST TRYING TO GIVE DALE SOME FEEDBACK.

>> MALE SPEAKER: I UNDERSTAND. I PROMISE I WILL GIVE HIM

FEEDBACK. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: THAT'S ALL

WE ARE ASKING. >> MALE SPEAKER: JUST MAY NOT DO MUCH BUT THIS WEEK UNTIL I SEE EVERYTHING.

THANK YOU. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

OKAY. LET'S SEE.

WE WILL GO TO M1, AND THE SAME IS GOING TO APPLY HERE, COMMISSIONER.E WILL GO THROUGH THEM.

I WILL ASK FOR COMMENT, BUT I'M GOING TO RESPECT THAT WHAT YOU SAID APPLIED TO THE LIST BEFORE IT WILL APPLY TO THIS ONE AS WELL. THAT IS THE RECOMMENDED NEW POSITIONS, AND THEY START OFF AND THEY GO ALL THE WAY DOWN

M1. >> MALE SPEAKER: M2 ARE THE

DELETED POSITIONS. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: THE DELETED ONES. SO SOME ARE KIND OF JUST A CHANGING, IF YOU WILL, OF WHAT THEY USED TO BE AND WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE NOW. AND THIS IS WHERE YOU, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, THE ONE THAT I WILL DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IS THE NATURAL RESOURCE SPECIALIST.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT GO MESA WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE USE.

WE DID GET A LARGE INCREASE IN GO MESA FUNDS THIS YEAR, DALE.

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YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT WE ADVOCATED AS A COURT PASSED RESOLUTION. I WAS ABLE TO TAKE THOSE RESOLUTIONS TO NACO AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET THOSE PAST.

THE NATIONAL LEVEL. IN PARTICULAR, THE GULF COAST PARISHES CAUCUS, AND WE THINK THAT WE HAVE VERY STRONG SUPPORT FEDERALLY FOR THE FUTURE OF GO MESA.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT?

>> MALE SPEAKER: JUDGE, WE RECEIVED $720,000.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: 720,000. >> MALE SPEAKER: CORRECT.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: LAST YEAR? >> MALE SPEAKER: OVER A

MILLION. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: LAST YEAR

WAS A MILLION IN THE ZERO 720. >> MALE SPEAKER: YES.> FEMALE SPEAKER: THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE DECLINE IN PRICING, I

GUESS. >> MALE SPEAKER: CORRECT.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: BUT WE SHOULD BE BACK UP AGAIN NEXT

YEAR, I AM THINKING. >> MALE SPEAKER: YES.

RIGINALLY, THE NATURAL RESOURCES SPECIALIST WAS BEING REQUESTED UNDER 180 WHICH IS THE COASTAL PARKS, WITH THE POSITIONS OF WHERE IT IS, COULD BE IN FRONT THERE.

IF YOU ALSO SEE FIT, IF YOU STILL THINK THIS POSITION IS VITAL, BUT NOW WE THINK IT WAS FUNDED FROM GO MESA THE PRIOR YEARS. WE STILL THINK THAT IT IS A LOW RELIABLE SOURCE OF FUNDS. WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT Y'ALL SEE FIT ON WHERE TO PUT THIS IN ORDER TO EXCLUDE IT, WHATEVER YOU WILL SEE FIT.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMMIT NOW, BUT I DO WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU IF YOU THINK, ASA -- WE HAVE CHECKED

WITH SCOTT ON THAT I BELIEVE. >> MALE SPEAKER: I THINK THE GO MESA FUNDS FOR THAT IS A GREAT IDEA.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: OKAY. SUPER, DUPER.

OF ACITA CHAPTER 59 FUNDS, HARD TO ARGUE WITH THOSE FOR ITEM CRIMINAL INVESTIGATOR, THE USE OF THAT.

VETERANS CEMETERY ARE ALL BUDGETED POSITIONS AND ARE ALL PAID FOR BY THE GL OUT. JUST KNOW THAT.

>> MALE SPEAKER: IS REQUIRED RED, BUDGETING ITEMS, NO FISCAL

IMPACT TO THE COUNTY. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: RIGHT.

AND WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS ONLY, TRYING TO THINK OF WHICH

OTHER ONE -- >> MALE SPEAKER: THE ONLY WHEN I WAS QUESTIONING FROM YESTERDAY IS THE VERY TOP ONE OF THE LIBRARY OF THE TECHNICAL SERVICES LIBRARIAN. DO STILL NEEDS THIS POSITION HOWEVER THE FUNDING WHENEVER THE LAW LIBRARY 150 WHICH I BELIEVE IS AN TAB T, IF WE DO SOME OF THE STUFF, MAY REDUCTION OF FUNDING BELOW THE NECESSARY REVENUE.

SO THIS MAY REQUIRE A SMALL ONE-TIME ENTRY OF A TRANSFER FROM GENERAL FUND TO COVER THE COSTS.

MAYBE ONE OR TWO YEARS BEFORE WE CAN START ACQUIRING SOME GRANTS WERE ADDITIONAL FINDINGS FROM EITHER THE BAR ASSOCIATION OR START WORKING WITH IDA START LEASING SPACE AS WELL AS LEASING THE WEST LAW TO THE ATTORNEYS THAT USE IT.

FOR RIGHT NOW, IF YOU DO CONTINUE TO USE AND APPROVE THIS POSITION, AND SHE DOES ALSO HAVE A REQUEST ON HER CONSIDERATION OF MOVING A PERSON FROM AN INTERMEDIATE COURT TO A LIBRARY ASSISTANT, WHICH IS A VERY SMALL INCREASE OF $700, SO I STILL PROPOSE WE DO THOSE.

BUT IT MAY REQUIRE A SMALL INFLUX OF FUNDS FROM THE

GENERAL FUND. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: OKAY.

SHE IS GOOD WITH THAT CHANGE. >> MALE SPEAKER: YES.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

OKAY. THERE WAS ONLY WANT -- GO AHEAD TO NCDC. WE WILL REDUCE THE TEMPORARY SALARIES IN THE DEPARTMENT OF WE WILL REDUCE THE TEMPORARY SALARIES IN THE DEPARTMENT OF 2275 SO THE NET INCREASE IS

60,000, 005. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: WE CAN CHANGE THAT TO A NET INCREASE OF -- IN OTHER WORDS, NEW TEMPORARY, DALE. I ALSO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT, OBVIOUSLY WOULD LIKE YOUR INPUT.

BUT I'M GOING TO -- >> MALE SPEAKER: I'M SORRY, NO

TEMPERATUREBUT OF ALL TIME? >> FEMALE SPEAKER: SHE IS A TEMPORARY RIGHT NOW, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE HER A PERMANENT SENIOR CLICK TOO. WHEN WE REDUCE TEMPORARY SALARIES, THE NET INCREASE TO THE DEPARTMENT IS 16,000 005

FOR REGULAR SALARIES. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: RATHER THAN THIRTY-EIGHT. AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO, IS BECAUSE THERE WAS NO FUNDRAISING ABILITIES LAST YEAR, WE WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK. EVERY YEAR WE HAVE TO APPLY FOR OUR NEW FUNDING FROM THE PORT AND WE WERE AT 90.

AND I LET THEM KNOW YESTERDAY THAT WE WERE GOING TO APPLY AT 125. AND I THINK THAT IS JUST IN KEEPING WITH WHAT HAS, JUST LIKE WE ARE TRAINED TO HELP STRUGGLING BUSINESSES OUT THERE, IF YOU LIKE THIS IS THE BEGINNING BUSINESS.F COURSE THEY CAN ALWAYS SAY NO.

BUT I DO BELIEVE THERE IS JUSTIFICATION.

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LINDA SPOKE WITH OMAR, I SPOKE WITH JOHN BREYER THIS MORNING.

THERE, MAKE A NICE PRESENTATION.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, THEY WANTED ME TO TELL YOU, REMEMBER THAT IF THEY SAY YES, THEY DON'T FUND UNTIL NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE THEIR FISCAL YEARS THE END OF DECEMBER.

WE HAVE TO CARRY SOME WATER INITIALLY.

>> MALE SPEAKER: AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THE KEPLER CREDIT WE RECEIVED FROM THE STATE ONLY CREDITS WE HAVE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T RECEIVE THEIR ELECTORAL CREDIT VALUES WILL BE DEPOSITED HERE ANYWHERE FROM $60-$80,000.

WHAT I RECOMMEND, WE HAVE HAD A BUDGET TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND AT 50, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IS A CONTINGENCY, WHETHER WE WANT TRANSFER UNLESS WE NEEDED FROM THE FUNDS.

BUT IT WILL STILL BE REPORTED AS A BUDGETED ITEM.

SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THIS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE, IF WE GET 124 FROM THERE IN THE 60 OR $80,000 FROM THE CAPITOL CREDITS, WE SHOULD BE HAVING ENOUGH FUNDS TO COVER OPERATIONS. NOT COUNTING ADDITIONAL

FUNDRAISING THEY MAY BRING IN. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: COMMISSIONER CHESNEY? I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT TELL YOU THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME DISCUSSION THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE DALE AND SCOTT THERE IS A NATURAL RESOURCE SPECIALIST ONE, THAT IS SORT OF THE NEW POSITION.

BUT I THINK THERE IS A WILL IF WE NEEDED SOME HELP THERE, IS TO MAYBE EVEN FORGO THAT POSITION.

IF HE CAN STRENGTHEN MEGHAN'S POSITION, BECAUSE MEGHAN IS HIS DOING PERMIT PERSON. SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT, DALE, HE FEELS LIKE SHE IS MORE VALUABLE AND WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND HER -- I THINK SHE IS A TWO.

>> MALE SPEAKER: RESOURCE SPECIALIST TWO, NOT SURE WHAT THE PAY GROUP IS. THAT'S A SPLIT FEE BETWEEN HER --

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: ENSHI GO MESA FUNDED, COMMISSIONER

CHESNEY SAYS. >> MALE SPEAKER: BETWEEN

COASTAL PARKS AND PUBLIC WORKS. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: WHAT WE ARE THINKING,., I THINK HE IS SAYING HE COULD COMPLETELY DO WITHOUT NATURAL RESOURCE SPECIALIST ONE, IF YOU WANTED TO USE TO HELP TO DO GO MESA -- DON'T GET ME WRONG, HE WANTS IT. BUT HE IS MORE INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T LOSE THAT.> MALE SPEAKER: WE COULD PROBABLY CONSIDER BRINGING SOMETHING TO WORK WITH SCOTT, MAYBE BRING RECLASSIFICATION TO MAKE THIS POSITION A HIGHER POSITION AND --

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: INTO A WAY --

>> MALE SPEAKER: KEEP IT IF WE NEED IN THE FUTURE.

BUT NOT THIS YEAR. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.> MALE SPEAKER: AND THE QUESTION IS, CANNOT BE SHIFTED TO A GO MESA POSITION IF WE NEEDED TO --

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: HALF OF IT. >> MALE SPEAKER: FOR BUDGETARY PURPOSES.> MALE SPEAKER: I BELIEVE SO.

WHAT WE DID BEFORE WITH GO MESA FUNDS, WHEN THE PERSON WAS THERE BEFORE, SPECIALIST ONE WAS HELPING WITH DUNE PROTECTION. RENAUX WE ARE SPLITTING IT BECAUSE OF THE DUNE PERMITTING THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT BUILDING FOR THE PERSON THAT RETIRED FROM PUBLIC WORKS.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: THAT MAY HELP ONE'S POSITION TOO, 50 PERCENT WAS PAID FOR BY GO MESA.

>> MALE SPEAKER: SO YES. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: WE CAN DO

THAT LATER. >> MALE SPEAKER: IN TIME WE DO SHIFTING FROM GENERAL FUND TO GO MESA OR OTHER GENERAL FUNDS,

THAT IS SOMETHING -- >> FEMALE SPEAKER: IN THE WORLD OF HE WANTS TO HELP AND ALSO ONE STILL YOU KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT, HE IS LETTING YOU KNOW THAT HE CAN HELP THE BUDGET THERE A LITTLE BIT AND DO SOME SHIFTING.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT WITH HIM AFTERWARDS.

>> MALE SPEAKER: POSSIBLY INCREASING IT, POSSIBLY INCREASE THE SALARY. [INAUDIBLE] OR MAYBE CREATE ANOTHER POSITION HIGHER WITH MORE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT YOUR MENTIONING. AVENUE, IT WILL BE MOVED TO GO MESA BECAUSE IT'S QUALIFIED BEFORE.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: I JUST WANT TO SAY THE ONLY ONE, DALE, THAT IT DID NOT SEE ON HERE THAT I THOUGHT WAS -- I'M LOOKING FOR MY NOTES HERE, BUT I HAD THEM, KEVIN CASE NICK HAD A REQUEST

FOR A TITLE -- >> FEMALE SPEAKER: TITLE

REJECTION. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: YES.

>> MALE SPEAKER: IF YOU GO TO G1, YOU CAN SEE THEY PUT IN FOR

SIX SENIOR. >> FOR THE CALL CENTER AS WELL AS A TITLE REJECTION CLERK. WE BELIEVE THEY WERE ALTOGETHER, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY INCLUDE ONE OF THOSE

IF WE SEE FIT. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: SEEMS LIKE THE TITLES WAS REALLY -- I'M JUST SAYING IF WE COULD SHUFFLE THE DECK ON THE NATURAL RESOURCE SPECIALIST, MAYBE WE

COULD HELP OUR TAX ASSESSOR. >> MALE SPEAKER: PUT IN THE REQUEST FOR THE TITLE REJECTION CLERK.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: HE WAS PRETTY COMPELLING THAT WE ARE

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THE CLOSET 38 477. >> MALE SPEAKER: CORRECT.

34,077 ADDITIONAL COSTS, YES. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: OKAY.

I THINK THE ENVIRONMENTAL ENFORCEMENT WAS VERY COMPELLING, BECAUSE SHE CAN GET:00 AND THERE, YOU CAN GET THE PEOPLE OUT IN THE FIELD. THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, WORKING HARDER INSTEAD OF SMARTER.

>> MALE SPEAKER: THEY CAME IN TO DO THEIR PRESENTATION, THE MAIN THING. THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THEIR OFFICES DURING REPORTS, AND THAT IS WHY I WENT IN TO SAY YES, I AGREE THAT THEY NEED:00 TO HELP THEM DO THEIR WORK.HEY DID REQUEST TWO ADDITIONAL OFFICES.

WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS THIS YEAR FOR THAT.

MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE CAN HAVE MORE STAFF.

BUT I DO BELIEVE THE SENIOR CLERK WILL HELP THEM GET BACK ON THE FIELD AND BE BETTER AT THE JOB THEY ARE DOING.

>> MALE SPEAKER: WHY CAN'T WE HAVE ANOTHER OFFICER?

>> MALE SPEAKER: IF Y'ALL WANT, WE CAN.

AN OFFICER COST WOULD BE -- >> FEMALE SPEAKER: IT'S ALL

ABOUT MONEY. >> MALE SPEAKER: SURE IS.

LIKE I SAID, IF WE CAN -- >> MALE SPEAKER: AROUND 60.

THEY WANTED THREE OFFICERS. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: I AM JUST

TALKING ABOUT ONE. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: WHILE LOOKING AT THAT, IF WE CAN SAVE SOME MONEY --

>> MALE SPEAKER: ONE OFFICER WOULD BE 45,000 TO 26.

ONE AT ONE MORE OFFICER SPEAKER AND LOOKING AT THE LAW LIBRARY, WHEN A MORE PERMANENT PERSON CAN USE IT, YOU CAN PUT IN A FULL-TIME OFFICER. [INAUDIBLE] IN THAT AREA, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, MY RECOMMENDATION,

ANYWAY. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: SO MAYBE DO A SHIFT FROM THE LAW LIBRARY TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL CODE?>

MALE SPEAKER: RIGHT. >> FEMALE SPEAKER:

ENFORCEMENT. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: THE LAW LIBRARY IS ITS OWN FUND, 15. WE DON'T GET A SMALL TRANSFER, SMALL AMOUNT FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

BUT WE COULD DO BOTH WHEREVER YOU SEE FIT.

>> MALE SPEAKER: BOTH, WHICH ONES?

WHAT YOU MEAN? >> FEMALE SPEAKER: WHILE

BLACKBERRIES ON THE GENERAL -- >> MALE SPEAKER: IN ON THE

GENERAL FUND. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: IT DOES NOT IMPACT THE IN THAT SAME WAY. I WILL SAY THAT I HOPE THE DISTRICT CLERKS ARE HAPPY TO SEE THE SECRETARY IS SO IMPORTANT. LOOK, ALL THE POSITIONS THE DEPARTMENT HAS ASKED FOR OUR VERY IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S A MATTER OF WHAT CAN WE AFFORD AND ALSO WHERE WE CAN PRIORITIZE. BUT TEACHES LAW CHANGING, THAT'S CRITICAL FOR EVERYONE THAT WORKS THE DISPOSITION OF CASES. ALSO 11, GPS 11 JUST HAS SO

MUCH VOLUME, SO MUCH VOLUME. >> MALE SPEAKER: THEY'VE ALREADY SPENT AT LEAST $34,000 IN TEMPORARY.

THAT COVERS THIS COST. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: RIGHT.

>> MALE SPEAKER: I HAVE A QUESTION, DALE, ON THE DA, DISTRICT ATTORNEY. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY LAW NUMBER FIVE JOB COORDINATOR, WE GET ONE LAST YEAR.

IS IT THE SAME ONE OR IS IT AN ADDITIONAL ONE?

>> MALE SPEAKER: WHAT THEY DID WITH THE GRANT, THEY SAID WITHOUT THE GRANT, I BELIEVE THE ASSOCIATED JUDGE CAME IN AND GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION ON THE NEED FOR THIS DIRECT COURT COORDINATOR, WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ONE.

THERE WAS A GRANT MANY YEARS AGO, BUT THEY STARTED TO GET THIS FOR COUNTY LAW COURT FIVE OF HOW THE PROCESS THIS.

THEY ARE WORKING ON A GRANT TO TRY TO GET THIS INFORMATION.

WHERE THEY STILL NEED THIS POSITION EITHER WAY, SO IF THE GRANT COMES IN, THEY WILL BE FUNDS FROM THE GENERAL FUNDS BUT THEY STILL SAY IT DIRECT COORDINATOR IS A VITAL NECESSITY FOR. [INAUDIBLE]

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: IS NOT AN EXTRA ONE, 61.

THAT'S WHEN, JUDGE, WHAT IF THEY CAME IN AND MADE THE

PRESENTATION WE ALL VOTED, YES. >> MALE SPEAKER: IT WAS

FULL-TIME. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: FULL-TIME.

>> MALE SPEAKER: I KNOW THEY ARE WORKING ON TRYING TO GET -- THEY ARE WORKING HARD TO GET GRANTS.> MALE SPEAKER: REMEMBER YOU SAID THAT. THE OTHER DISTRICT I HAVE IS THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS HERE. TERESA, SHE MENTIONED SOMETHING YESTERDAY. THOSE HERE, THOSE ARE NOT NEW POSITIONS. IT'S JUST A TRANSFER.

>> MALE SPEAKER: THOSE RESIDE IN 1325, I MEAN, 1323 WHICH IS PRETRIAL DIVERSION. IT HAS ALL THE OTHER FUNDS.

BECAUSE THE COVID, THE REVENUE DOES NOT HAVE SIGNIFICANT FUNDS TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING. SO IF WE DON'T MOVE THIS TO THE

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AND IF MORE COMES IN, HE WILL DEFINITELY TRANSFER MORE.

[INAUDIBLE] TO CONTINUE THE SERVICES OF THESE EMPLOYEES.

>> MALE SPEAKER: [INAUDIBLE] THAT FUND WAS DEPLETED.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: IT HAS A NEGATIVE FUND BALANCE.

>> MALE SPEAKER: [INAUDIBLE] ONLY RUN 134 BECAUSE THE LOST REVENUE, OUR LOST REVENUE FROM CALCULATION SINCE 170, SO THAT

WOULD COVER DARK COST. >> MALE SPEAKER: 550,000.

>> MALE SPEAKER: FOR THE NEW POSITION, YES.

>> MALE SPEAKER: ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: SO IT'S 515,000, THE DA WILL TRANSFER

300. >> MALE SPEAKER: [INAUDIBLE]

HAVE NO MONEY. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: RIGHT, BUT

THEORETICALLY NEXT YEAR. >> MALE SPEAKER: BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, HE WAS BRING ANYWHERE FROM $390-$400,000 EVERY YEAR.

ONCE THE PANDEMIC CAME IN, THIS YEAR WE RECEIVED 140.

ONCE IT GETS BACK UP AND RUNNING AGAIN, HE WILL WELL EXCEED 300,000 $400,000. I TALKED WITH HIM, AND ANGELICA, HIS FIRST ASSISTANT, AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD DEFINITELY TRANSFER. [INAUDIBLE] TO COVER THE COST.

>> MALE SPEAKER: I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. SUPPORTED.

BUT I'M JUST SAYING, WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE ARE SPENDING 515,000, BECAUSE IF WE SPEND THAT, THAT MIGHT BE SIX MONTHS.

SIX MONTHS, MAYBE IT WILL GIVE US THE MONEY.

I THINK WE NEED TO SHOW THE TRUE NUMBERS HERE OF WHAT WE

SPEND. >> MALE SPEAKER: THOSE NUMBERS ARE THE TRUE, ACTUAL EXPENSES FOR THAT.

SO THE 310 COVERS THE COST OF THE FUNDS PROVIDED FOR --

>> MALE SPEAKER: IS NOT COUNTED AS 310 BECAUSE THEY

DON'T HAVE IT. >> MALE SPEAKER: RIGHT NOW, NO. THEY ARE STARTING TO RAMP UP THERE.

DIVERSION AND I SEE THAT COMING IN, ONCE WE GET THIS THING RUNNING AGAIN, IT WILL BE EASY TO MANAGE IT.

>> MALE SPEAKER: AND WE LOOK AT THAT LATER, BULLY.

AND ON THE 515. WE NEED TO SHOW THAT, WHAT IT IS. THANK YOU.

>> MALE SPEAKER: DALE, I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION THAT GOES WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER ELLIS WAS ASKING.

WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE SEAT OF SECRETARY, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, SPENDING.

EMPS JUSTIFIES THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, HIGHER FULL-TIME.

WE HAVE OTHER POSITIONS OR ANYTHING THAT YOU RECOMMEND HERE THAT HAS SOMETHING SIMILAR THAT WE'VE BEEN SPENDING A LOT ON JUST TEMPS IN MORE PRACTICAL TO HIRE SOMEONE?

>> MALE SPEAKER: FOR JUST THE PIECE ONE THE ONE THAT'S BEEN OVERLOADED WITH CASELOADS. THE REST OF JP'S.

[INAUDIBLE] THE CLERK DID HAVE A REQUEST FOR ANOTHER CLERK AND HER STAFF, HAS BEEN RUNNING A BIT OF TEMPORARY SERVICES.

AND BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN CASES, OUR E-FILING HAS BEEN INCREASING. BUT WE FEEL THAT THE REMAINING OF THE STAFF CAN TAKE ON THAT. THAT'S WHY WE ADD THE SEAT.

IT'S AN IMPORTANT POSITION TO MAKE SURE WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE SO WE CAN CONTINUE GETTING OUR GRANTS. THAT'S WHAT WE PUT THOSE IN.

SOME OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE BECAUSE OVERTIME IS A BIT HIGH ON SOME, WE ARE REQUESTING IT.

I BELIEVE CONSTABLES CREATED THE POSITION AS WELL.

SOME OF OUR OTHER SMALL DEPARTMENTS, THE ONLY ONES WE SAW THAT REALLY JUSTIFIED AND RECOMMENDED POSITION WITH GAAP 11 WITH THE AMOUNT OF TEMPORARY SERVICES THAT THEY HAD.

I KNOW, AS WE SAID, THE TAX OFFICE.

AND SIX ADDITIONAL CORKS BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO A CALL CENTER. I BELIEVE IT'S SOMETHING WE MAY NEED TO TALK ABOUT BUT IT MADE ME NOT SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS YEAR BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF COSTS WE HAVE IS ASSOCIATED WITH OF THE STAFF. BUT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE I WENT THROUGH THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT HE REALLY SAW THAT REALLY JUSTIFIED THE USE OF TEMPORARY. AS TERESA WAS SAYING, THE ONE FOR THE CSCD, THAT'S WORKING HARD TO TRANSFER HER TO A SENIOR CLICK. THE ONLY TWO I SAW THE JUSTIFIED THE MOVE FROM A TEMPORARY TO FULL-TIME.

>> MALE SPEAKER: AND OTHER EXTRA COSTS OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE WHEN YOU ARE DOING JUST TEMP, YOU ARE NOT ADDING ALL THE

OTHER BENEFITS. >> MALE SPEAKER: ONCE HE MOVED TO FULL-TIME, YOU TELL THE REST IT'S AROUND 10 PERCENT ON THIS, I CAN. IT WILL MAKE A BIG DEAL, BIG DIFFERENCE. BUT I CAN MAKE SURE THOSE ARE

10 PERCENT. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: AT LEAST THAT'S WILL START ON THE EQUITY .

RATE? I'M SURE THERE WERE REASONINGS BEHIND THE ONES THAT WERE LARGER, BUT LIKE I SAID, IF YOU ARE GOING FOR THE EQUITY, IT'S NOT GOING TO MOVE THE

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AT LEAST YOU CAN SHOWCASE IT. >> MALE SPEAKER: THERE'S NOT MUCH I CAN DO, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM A LEGAL SECRETARY WENT TO LEGAL SECRETARY TO, IT'S A 30 PERCENT INCREASE.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: THOSE ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE.

THOSE ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE. >> MALE SPEAKER: ECHO FROM M SECRETARY TO THREE, TWO AND MAYBE 10 PERCENT OF TRIES.

SUPERVISOR, I MAY BE ABLE TO WORK THOSE NUMBERS AND.

I WILL TRY TO STRUCTURE A LITTLE BIT.

IT WILL NOT CHANGE A LOT. WITH THAT, I WILL GO BACK TO N1 AND I WILL MAKE SURE I'VE GOT WHAT WE PLAN ON.

WE HAVE THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT THE MOST LIKELY AS THE ARE BOTH FUNDS, QUESTION MARK TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE POSSIBLE FUNDING RIGHT NOW, SHOWING THE GENERAL FUND.

THAT'S DEFINITELY ABOUT NINTH ON THE EXPENSE THAT COULD BE OF THE ARPA FUNDS. IS ASKED TO ADD A TITLE REJECTION CLERK TO THE TAX ASSESSOR, ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER ONE OUT ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL ENFORCEMENT AND ALSO ADDED HVAC MECHANICAL SYSTEM MAINTENANCE TO TECHNICIAN.

IT WAS A REQUEST, ONE OUT OF THE 1500S.

AFTER MOVING TO DEPARTMENT 1500.

THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER ADDITION I HAVE FOR THOSE.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: GREAT. ALSO, STANDING BY FOR US IS WILLIAM SCHOLL, JUST SO WE CAN BUTTON THAT UP BEFORE WE BREAK FOR THIS BUDGET WORKSHOP, IF THERE IS NO OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS, EVERYONE CAN GO AND WORK ON THE BUDGET.

WILLIAM, ARE WE GOING TO CALL HIM?

HOW IS IT? >> MALE SPEAKER: I WILL ASK

HIM TO CALL THE NUMBER. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: HE WILL CALL JUST SO HE CAN ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT THE FISCAL

IMPACT, UNLESS YOU DON'T ASK. >> MALE SPEAKER: I DO NOT.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT IT? HE DOES NOT WANT TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT IT.

OKAY. ASK HIM TO CALL US.

TALK ABOUT THE POTENTIAL GRANT. >> MALE SPEAKER: THAT IS ON B9 WERE WE REFERENCED THE JAIL ASSESSMENT PROGRAM.

>> MALE SPEAKER: HE MAY BE HAVING A BIT OF TROUBLE WITH PERCEPTION BECAUSE HE'S ACTUALLY ON VACATION BUT WAS

WILLING -- >> FEMALE SPEAKER: YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S FINE.

WHAT I WILL DO IS WRITE HIM AN EMAIL AND GET THEM TO RESPOND.

THEN WE WILL CIRCULATE IT TO THE COURT.

THE VERY PERSON THAT WANTED IT JUST LEFT.

YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IN RISK ASSESSMENT.

BUT THE TWO PEOPLE THAT I WANTED HIM TO HEAR AND ASK QUESTIONS, THEY DON'T WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS ANYMORE.

>> MALE SPEAKER: OKAY, JUDGE. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: OKAY.

AS THEY SAY, YOUR GOVERNMENT IN ACTION, EVERYONE LEAVES BEFORE IT'S OVER. LOOKS LIKE WE ARE LOOKING MORE LIKE WASHINGTON EVERY DAY. SO I WILL JUST SAY THAT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, THANK YOU FOR STAYING ON THE ENTIRE TIME AND OUR LOVE AND THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADJOURN WITH THAT THOUGHT IN MIND.

AND SO -- >> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU, JUDGE. I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTS AND EVERYBODY ON THE COURT REACHED OUT.

IT REALLY MEANT A LOT. CAN TALK MUCH ABOUT THAT.

WANT TO RAISE THE ISSUE OF WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THE BUDGET MEETINGS FOR NEXT WEEK.

TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE GOING WITH ALL OF THIS, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO DISCUSS THINGS BUT I WILL HAVE MY DISCUSSIONS WITH DALE AND GIVE HIM INPUT AS I DO JUSTICE.

CURIOUS AS TO WHETHER WE NEEDED TO KEEP HAVING ALL THESE BUDGET MEETINGS ARE NOT. I'M SORRY DON'T HAVE IT IN

FRONT OF ME. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: IT IS THE NINTH AND THE 10TH, COMMISSIONER.

THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE NOT GETTING ANY OF DALE'S --

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WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF WE CAN ELIMINATE ONE, WE WELL.

BUT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE ONE DAY AT LEAST WHERE WE AT LEAST DISCUSS PUBLICLY THE NO NEW RATES, THE RATES.

WE HAVE TO SET THE TAX RATE ON THE 11TH.

AND SO, I WILL SAY THAT MAYBE WE COULD GET RID OF ONE OF THE DAYS. SORRY, PROPOSED RATE, YOU'RE RIGHT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU WHICH DAY WOULD BE BETTER MONDAY OR TUESDAY?

>> MALE SPEAKER: BECAUSE OF MY SITUATION, I AM APPRECIATIVELY DID NOT MEET ON MONDAY.WAY TO BE FINISHED WITH EVERYTHING, MY PERSONAL STUFF BY THEN, IF WE COULD JUST MEET ON TUESDAY

INSTEAD OF MONDAY. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: WE WILL DO THAT. I WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION RIGHT NOW TO TYNDER TO PLEASE CANCEL ON THE CALENDAR MONDAY THE NINTH, LEAVE IT OPEN FOR JUST QUESTIONS FOR DALE DALE, MAKE YOURSELF AVAILABLE TONIGHT ON A PRIVATE MATTER, OKAY? , FOR COMMISSIONERS. LET THE PUBLIC KNOW WHAT THOSE FIGURES REALLY LOOK LIKE. WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO DO SOME WORK TOMORROW, BUT IT REALLY WAS NOT NOTICED PROPERLY.

SO WE WILL HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

>> MALE SPEAKER: TOMORROW'S COMMISSIONERS COURT.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: TOMORROW'S FOR COMMISSIONERS COURT.

BUT WE COULD MAYBE DO -- DALE IS GOING TO INVESTIGATE, BUT WHY DON'T YOU LEAVE TUESDAY OPEN.

COMMISSIONER MONEZ, WILL THAT WORK FOR YOU?

>> MALE SPEAKER: I AM GOOD EITHER DAY.

APPRECIATE KEEPING IT TO THE 10TH.

>> MALE SPEAKER: I WILL TRY TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

THE WAY THE AGENDA ITEM LIST OF REFERENCES TO PRESENT THE RATES. I DON'T WANT TO VIOLATE ANY RULES FOR THAT. SO IF WE CAN TALK ABOUT TOMORROW, I WILL TRY TO EXPAND ON IT.

BUT WE MAY BE LIMITED TO HOW WE FORFEIT THE EVENT.

SO I WILL DEFINITELY WORK WITH COMMISSIONER ON THE NINTH WHEN HE HAS TIME AND WE WILL HAVE THE FULL COURT ON THE FIFTH.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

>> MALE SPEAKER: EXCUSE ME, TYNDER, I APOLOGIZE, I THOUGHT WE WERE DONE. BUT I AM INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM THE PERSON WHEN HE DOES HAVE TIME.

DOES NOT HAVE TO BE TODAY, THOUGH.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: COULD HAVE HIM CALL COMMISSIONER

HERNANDEZ? >> MALE SPEAKER: HE IS CALLING

RIGHT NOW. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: CALLING

RIGHT NOW. >> MALE SPEAKER: WILLIAM, ARE

YOU THERE? >> MALE SPEAKER: [INAUDIBLE]

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: NO WORRIES. GOOD MORNING, WILLIAM.

WE WERE DISCUSSING THE REQUEST FOR THE RISK ASSESSMENT OFFICER.AND SO, IF YOU WOULD JUST GIVE US SOME BACKGROUND AS TO, ARE THERE ANY POTENTIAL -- IF WE WERE ABLE TO FIND IT THIS YEAR, DO YOU THINK THERE IS A POTENTIAL TO HAVE YOU HAVE ANY GRANTS OR ANY TYPE OF OTHER FUNDING THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE THAT WE COULD EITHER EXPECT OR HELP YOU OBTAIN?

>> MALE SPEAKER: NOT AT THIS TIME, YOUR HONOR.

THE DEAL IS THE PRETRIAL RISK LOAN ASSESSMENT OFFICER IS NOT AN ACTUAL PROBATION DUTY. SO IT'S NOT A POSITION THAT THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT NEEDS. WE DO IT FOR THE COUNTY BASICALLY. IT IS, IT HELPS THE JUDGES FIGURE OUT THE RISK FOR FAILURES TO APPEAR AND FOR RECIDIVISM AND WARRANT OFFENSE. SO AS FAR AS PROBATIONS ARE CONCERNED, SEE JED WILL NOT GIVE ME FUNDING FOR THAT AT

THIS TIME. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: UNDERSTOOD.

WE HAVE A QUESTION HERE FOR YOU.

HANG ON. DO WE HAVE QUESTION, COMMISSION

AND HERNANDEZ? >> MALE SPEAKER: NO, JUST WANTED TO HEAR HIM.> FEMALE SPEAKER: OKAY.

AND SO, IF YOU WANTED TO ARTICULATE ANY FURTHER, IT IS A VERY GOOD POINT YOU MAKE THAT IT IS A REAL ASSISTANCE TO THE JUDGES AND THE MAGISTRATE. DO YOU WANT TO KIND OF PRESENT ANY KIND OF ARGUMENT FOR IT? ECAUSE WE ARE DEBATING THAT

RIGHT NOW. >> MALE SPEAKER: I UNDERSTAND.

NO, THE PROBLEM WITH HAVING TWO STAFF ONLY WORK SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, IT GETS DIFFICULT WHEN SOMEONE GETS SICK OR IF SOMEONE GOES ON VACATION, WHEN SOMEONE IS JUST OFF, JUST ONE PERSON THERE AND IT TAKES AROUND 30 TO 45 MINUTES PER ASSESSMENT.

AND YOU ARE PROBABLY DOING ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO 40 INMATES.

SO NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE TO PERFORM THE ASSESSMENT, YOU HAVE TO DO A BACKGROUND ON HONESTY, LOOKING FOR FAILURES TO APPEAR. YOU ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT NCIC, TCI SEE THE OTHER OFFENSES, CRIMINAL HISTORY, THEN YOU HAVE TO WRITE THE REPORT, SEND IT TO THE JUDGE OR TO THE COURT MANAGER, AND IN BETWEEN ALL OF THAT, YOU ARE SIGNING OUT OFFENDERS WHO ARE ON SUPERVISION.

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SOMETIMES THAT'S NOT HAPPENING BECAUSE OF JUST ONE PERSON BEING IN THE JAIL BECAUSE SOMEONE IS OFF OR SICK.

AND SO, THAT IS THE GOAL. SOMETIMES IT IS 48, 72 HOURS.

AT TIMES INSTEAD OF HAVING SURVEILLANCE VIDEO AND 24, 36 HOURS, THEY ARE THERE AN EXTRA DAY OR TWO JUST BECAUSE A JUDGE IS WAITING ON AN ASSESSMENT. IT'S THE MERE VOLUME OF PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THE JAIL. WE HAVE SEEN, WE WERE AT CAPACITY THE SUMMER AND WE STILL ARE.

WE ARE STILL HIGH MEMBERS. I JUST FEEL WITH 1/3 PERSON, WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB AT THE COUNTY COULD DO A BETTER JOB.

THE JUDGES THAT SEE THE REPORTS QUICKER, THAT IS MY GOAL.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU, WILLIAM.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WANTING BACKGROUND ON.

>> MALE SPEAKER: EXCUSE ME, WILLIAM?

>> MALE SPEAKER: YES, SIR. >> MALE SPEAKER: THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THAT, DO YOU KEEP TABS ON THEM?

DO YOU KEEP TRACK OF THEM, >> MALE SPEAKER: THAT DEPENDS ON THE JUDGE, IF THE JUDGE PUTS THEM ON BOND SUPERVISION OR NOT.T DEPENDS ON THE OFFENSE IN DIFFERENT JUDGES REQUIRE US TO SUPERVISE DIFFERENT OFFENDERS DEPENDING ON THEIR

OFFENSE OR CRIMINAL HISTORY. >> MALE SPEAKER: SOUNDS LIKE

YOU HAVE A FULL LOAD. >> MALE SPEAKER: DEFINITELY SO, DEFINITELY SO. ESPECIALLY SINCE COVID.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> MALE SPEAKER: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: NO. THANK YOU, WILLIAM.

APPRECIATE YOU REACHING OUT TO US AND HELPING US TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS. IF THERE ARE ANY FURTHER, I WILL LET THE COURT EMAIL YOU DIRECTLY.

>> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> FEMALSPEAKER: THAYOU.

>> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU, WILLIAM.

COULD DIEGOODBYE. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: IN A WORLD OF MONEY NEWS, IT DID TAKE A SECOND TIME, BUT THEY DID PASS THE RATE INCREASE OF 5 PERCENT FOR TO YOU AND IT WILL TAKE EFFECT JANUARY 1. SO THERE YOU GO.

SO WITH THAT, DALE, WE WILL JUST SEE EVERYBODY TOMORROW.

AND THE WAY YOU KNOW THE MEETING IS OVER IS

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.