[ NUECES COUNTY, TEXAS COMMISSIONERS COURT *This will be a remote meeting with multiple methods of access; See instructions below: BUDGET WORKSHOP FRIDAY - JUNE 11, 2021 at 9:00 AM ] [00:00:07] >> GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY WE ARE HAVING OUR NUECES COUNTY COMMITTEE CONTINUATION TODAY IS JUNE 11 TO TITLE TODAY IS GENERAL GOVERNMENT AND OTHER FUNDS. WE HAVE A GOOD LINE UP WITH OUR TAX ASSESSORS COLLECTED WITH HIS DEPARTMENT WHICH IS NUMBER 1200. DALE WILL REFER US TO OUR PAGE IN OUR BIG BOOK. I DO WANT TO SAY, ALTHOUGH YOU SEE TWO OF US UP HERE WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. COM. CHESNEY THANK YOU FOR BEING ON THE LINE THIS MORNING. >> THANK YOU. >> PAGE 722 IN THE BIG BOOK. >> YES, MA'AM THANK YOU. >> KEVIN IS AT THE MIC. >> DO YOU WANT ME AT THIS MICRO THAT MY? >> EITHER ONE BUT THAT ONE GIVES US THE BEST AUDIO. >> OKAY WE WILL STICK WITH THIS ONE. OKAY I WILL GET ROLLING THROUGH HERE, I WILL MAKE THIS BRIEF. OUR BUDGET IS PRETTY STANDARD, BUT WE DO HAVE AN INCREASED REQUEST DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT AS IT IS COVID-19 RELATED INCREASE ECONOMICS. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU LITTLE HEADS UP ON THAT, AND WE WILL GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THAT. STARTING WITH 52 -- 17 POSTED IN FEDERAL EXPRESS. EVERY OTHER YEAR INCREASE ON THIS OF 49,140. JUST SO YOU KNOW, FOR THE COMMISSIONERS HERE THE MAYOR MAY NOT BE AWARE, EVERY ODD NUMBERS OF YEARS AT OUR OFFICE MUST READ HER MAIL OUT VOTER REGISTRATION TICKETS TO ALL ACTIVE VOTERS IN NUECES COUNTY COUNTY UNDER ELECTION CODE 14.001. THE ACTUAL COST OF THE PROCESS FOR THE VOTER CERTIFICATE MAIL OUT IN 2019 WAS $44,765.13. AND WE ARE ANTICIPATING ABOUT A LITTLE SLIGHT INCREASE THIS YEAR FOR PUTTING LABELS AROUND $4,375. WE ALSO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN OUR OFFICE, BEFORE WE SEND THOSE MAIL OUTS, WE ALSO RUN A CHECK WITH THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICE TO TRY TO CUT DOWN ON RETURNED MAIL. ALSO TO REMIT PEOPLE FROM BEING REMOVED UNNECESSARILY FROM THE FEDERAL ROLE. WE DO, IS WE GO OUT TO THE NATIONAL CHANGE OF ADDRESS KNOWN AS THE NCO THAT A. WE TRY TO CAPTURE THAT 1ST AND WE GET THOSE MAIL OUTS SO WE ARE NOT UNNECESSARILY MOVING PEOPLE FROM THE ROLLS. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> YES, WE DO NOT WANT TO BE DOING THAT. ESPECIALLY FOR THE YOUNGER GENERATION THAT TENDS TO BE A LITTLE MUCH TRANSIENT MOVE FROM COLLEGE IN APARTMENTS AND SO FORTH. WE DO NOT WANT TO MISS ANY OF THESE PEOPLE, WE WENT AND CAPTURED THEM IN THE PROCESS. SO, WE ARE LOOKING TO OPERATING ADJUSTMENTS THIS YEAR OF 56,000, -- 56,724 FOR THOSE. THIS IS SOME FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO KNOW. THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR THIS IS EVERY OTHER YEAR SO NEXT YEAR COME DOWN BY ABOUT THAT MUCH. >> SO REALLY, YOUR BUDGET IS EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS IN 2019? >> MUCH, YOU KNOW AS WE'VE HAD A REALLY NICE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF VOTER REGISTRATIONS, AND A COURSE THAT TRANSLATES INTO MORE BUDGET. IT IS WHAT IT IS, WE ARE NOT SENDING LOVE LETTERS TO GRANDMA WE ARE ACTUALLY SENDING EVERYTHING FOR THE REGISTRATIONS OPEN. >> GOT IT. >> DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? >> ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I THINK WE ARE GOING ON THAT. I GOT TO TAKE US TO THE PERSONNEL? >> YES, CAPITAL OUTLAY, WE HAVE SOME SMALL ITEMS THAT KIND OF ADD UP A LITTLE BIT FOR THINGS WE NEED IN OUR OFFICE. WE HAVE MULTIFUNCTION PRINTERS FOR BOTH RALPHIE AND SANDRA THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED THEY ARE OLD AND AGING. AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO WORK PROPERLY WE NEED THE SCANNING IMAGING ABILITY. SO WE GOT THAT THEY ARE. AS FAR AS IT GOES, YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN THE COMPUTER IS GOING TO BAKE. WE WERE JUST PUTTING POTENTIAL TO JUST IN CASE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MALFUNCTIONS THESE THINGS ALWAYS GO DOWN, AT PEAK TIMES. THEY NEVER GO DOWN WHEN IT IS SLOW. SO WE ARE JUST BUDGETING IN ANTICIPATION IT SEEMS LIKE WE AVERAGE ABOUT TWO OR THREE COMPUTER FAILURES PER YEAR. SO WE WILL PUT THAT IN THE BUDGET. JUST IN CASE. >> I HEAR YOU. >> OF COURSE WE WILL NOT USE IT UP WE DO NOT NEED IT. NON- CAPITAL OUTLAY, WE NEED SOME CHAIRS FOR A MOTOR VEHICLE DEPARTMENT. WE ALSO NEED TO PURCHASE A SAFE IN OUR COUNTY VAULT, IT IS NO LONGER REPAIRABLE. IF THE NEXT TIME IT FAILS WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET IN IT. THAT CONTINUE TO BE A LITTLE BIGGER PROBLEM. >> WE WILL MARK THAT ONE IS HIGH PRIORITY DALE. >> IT IS HIGH PRIORITY THAT WAS AN ABSOLUTE MUST HAVE. [00:05:05] UNLESS WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT TO BREAK INTO IT THROUGH THE CEILING. >> WILL TRY TO SEE ABOUT WORKING WITH THEM TO REQUIRE THAT THIS YEAR. >> YES, SOMETIMES THE PROCESS DOES TAKE A WHILE. I KNOW WITHIN OUR OWN BUDGET TO. >> SOME BANK A GREAT CASH COUNTERS, WE FOUND AREAS WE CAN PURCHASE THOSE CASH COUNTERS, SO WE CAN DO'S TO BUDGET REALLOCATING ON THAT. I'VE REMOVE THAT FROM THAT REQUEST. WE ALSO HAVE A CROSSCUT SHREDDER WE HAVE TWO THAT ARE OVER 20-YEARS-OLD. THEY ARE NO LONGER SHREDDING THEY NEED TO BE RUNNING STRAIGHT LINES INSTEAD OF THE CROSSCUT. IT'S REALLY FOR THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF INFORMATION. SO WE ARE GOING TO ORDER THOSE AS WELL. OKAY CAPITAL OUTLAY ADJUSTMENTS AN INCREASE OF 12,570. IS WHAT THOSE ITEMS ARE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO. SO, LET'S SEE HERE,. >> I BELIEVE THOSE ARE THE REQUEST FOR TWO ADDITIONAL COPIERS? >> YES, THERE WAS, AND THOSE ARE NOT IN THE BUDGET. I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. WE HAD TWO COPIERS THAT WE NEEDED THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED TO. >> TO THE COPIER. >> TO THE COPIER BUDGET. I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS HAD THAT ALL. >> WHAT A GOOD BUSINESS TO BE IN RIGHT GUYS? COPIERS? EVERYBODY NEEDS ONE. >> UNFORTUNATELY. OKAY, NOW MOVING ONTO OUR ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE REQUEST. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY TRIED NOT TO DO BETWEEN PANDEMIC INCREASES, AND MOTOR VEHICLE VOLUME IN SENATE BILL 876 AND IT STATUTORY TURNAROUND THAT WE ARE NOT CURRENTLY MEETING ANY LONGER FOR PROCESS AND TITLE WORK. FOR THE MOTOR VEHICLE DEALERS. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. WE ARE ALSO HAVING A PROBLEM WITH THEM SURE YOU GUYS RECEIVED COMPLAINTS OVER THE PHONE WHICH IS NOT BEING ANSWERED AND THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE. WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO HANDLE THE CUSTOMERS WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US. WE ARE WANTING TO DO TO SET UP A CALL CENTER. WE ALREADY HAD A SPACE IN SOME OF THE MONEY WE HAD LEFTOVER BECAUSE WE SAVE SO MUCH MONEY ON THE KEY SYSTEM FROM WHEN WE HAD BUDGETED, WE CAN USE THAT MONEY WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IN THIS BUDGET. WE WILL USE THAT TO BUILD OUT THE CALL CENTER. THAT IS DEDICATED FOR YOUR FUNDS AND TERESA AND I HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT. WE DO NOT EAT ANYTHING THERE. >> AND KEVIN, THIS IS A BIG GIFT, IF WE ARE ABLE TO IDENTIFY AND CAN REALLY PLAN THAT TECHNOLOGY, WHICH IT KINDA LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE IN IT. MAYBE YOUR KIOSK CAN BE FUNDED IN A DIFFERENT WAY? YOU HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO PUT THAT PACKAGE TOGETHER, JUST PUT IT ON A HOLD RIGHT NOW. IT MIGHT HAVE, THAT'S WHAT THOSE DOLLARS ARE REALLY FOUR, IS TO TAKE SOMETHING AND CHANGE THE WAY YOU ARE DOING BUSINESS. MAYBE THAT IS JUST SOMETHING FOR YOU AND I TO THINK ABOUT? >> SURE, WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION. THE KIOSK IS DONE. WE NEED THIS CALL CENTER, WE NEED OUR TAXPAYERS TO BE ABLE TO GET THE ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS THAT THEY ARE ASKING. >> I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE KIOSK THE THIRD? >> NO NO. >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE DOWNSTAIRS. >> ACTUALLY THE THIRD FOUR WILL BE THE COLONISTS THAT MAKE THE CALL CENTER AND WHO USE THOSE FUNDS TO BUILD OUT THE CALL CENTER AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT. WE HAVE ALREADY HAD THAT KIND OF WORK ORDER, BUT WE ARE HOLDING OFF ON IT BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING AT TAXPAYER MONEY AND THAT NOT HAVE THE STAFF. >> THE PEOPLE. >> IF THIS DOES GET APPROVED I WOULD ALSO BE CONCERNED WITH HAVING THAT RAMPED UP BY OCTOBE. SO WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION LATER. WHAT I AM ASKING FOR IS FIVE SENIOR CLARK -- FIVE SENIOR CLARK TWO POSITIONS. ACTUALLY SIX SENIOR CLARK TWO POSITIONS. IT IS BASICALLY TO COVER BILL 876. ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WILL NOT BE IN THE CALL CENTER WHERE THERE WILL BE TO HELP WITH THE RAMIFICATIONS OF BILL 876. THAT WILL REALLY REQUIRE US TO SEND MONEY OUT TO COUNTIES THAT WERE COLLECTING. IT IS A HUGE MESS. THANKS TO THIS BILL. THAT IS PROBABLY ANOTHER CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER TIME. BUT BASICALLY, IT BECAME OPTIONAL FOR ANYBODY TO REGISTER VEHICLES IN ANY COUNTY NOW. BUT IF THEY DO SO, WE HAVE TO [00:10:04] DISTRIBUTE THOSE MONIES BACK TO THE COUNTY OF RESIDENCE. SO THE FEES GET TO WHERE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO GO. THAT PART IS THE GOOD PART. THE BAD PART IS, THEY ARE ACTING LIKE THE STATE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE AND BE A STATEWIDE CONTENT DISTRIBUTOR OPPOSE FUNDS. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT OPTION FOR DEALERS TO PROCESS DEALS LET'S SAY SOMEBODY COMES IN FROM SAN ANTONIO. OR THEY COME FROM A DIFFERENT COUNTY. IF THEY BUY A VEHICLE HERE, AND IT GOES FROM THAT DEALER, WE HAVE TO TAKE THOSE FUNDS AND NOW WE HAVE TO DISTRIBUTE THOSE FUNDS TO THOSE OTHER COUNTIES. IT IS GOING TO BE A LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. THIS IS WHAT WAS PASSED BY OUR LEGISLATURE. WE FOUGHT THIS, WE WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL. THE AUTO DEALERS DEFINITELY HAD A HEAVY HAND IN THIS PROCESS. SO, IT IS AN UNFUNDED MANDATE. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET ADDITIONAL STAFF TO HELP THE PROCESS. UNFORTUNATELY. >> JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, IT IS 876 RIGHT? >> YES SENATE BILL 876. THAT IS ONLY FOR ONE OF THE POSITIONS. THE OTHER POSITION IS TO HELP FUND OUR CALL CENTER THAT WAY OUR TAXPAYERS CAN GET THE ANSWERS THAT THEY NEED. TO BE ABLE TO CONTACT OUR OFFICE. WE ALWAYS TRYING TO HELP THE PEOPLE WHO WERE STANDING IN FRONT OF US AND GET PRIORITY TO THAT AND UNFORTUNATELY WITH JUST THE SHEER VOLUME THAT WE ARE HAVING, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO GET ALL THE PHONE CALLS. WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A BETTER WAY. WE DO HAVE A SOLUTION FOR THAT, IT IS PART OF THIS CALL CENTER. WE ARE LOOKING AT FIVE SENIOR CLERKS, AND ONE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE TO COUNTY PIECE OF 876. AND THEN A TITLE REJECTION CLARK ALSO IN MOTOR VEHICLE. BECAUSE OF THE SHEER VOLUME. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT THE CAR LIGHTS BUT THEY ARE EMPTY. >> THEY ARE. >> WE ARE SEEING ALL THAT, AND IT IS CREATED AN EXTREMELY HIGH DEMAND FOR USED VEHICLES, SO WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF INDIVIDUAL TRANSFERS AND SO FORTH. THE LINES THAT YOU HAVE SEEN, OF COURSE ONLY ENABLE THAT IS A RESULT OF THE WAY WERE GOING AWAY. WE KINDA THREW THAT OUT AS AN ANOMALY BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD, WE HAVE 70,000 UNREGISTERED VEHICLE AND I'LL HIT US AT ONE TIME IN THE MONTH OF APRIL IN THE TAIL END OF MAY. SO THAT IS LIKE THE THIRD OF OUR ENTIRE, THAT WHY IT WAS SO CHAOTIC IN THE MOTOR VEHICLE SECTION BACK THERE IN APRIL. THAT HAS COME BACK UNDER CONTROL. BUT, WE ARE STILL SEEING THE HIGH VOLUME OF INDIVIDUAL TRANSFERS, AND JUST A LOT OF MOTOR VEHICLE SALES IN GENERAL. WE ARE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THERE. ALSO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE TITLE REJECTION CLARK IS. WE ALSO CHECK FOR SECURITY ISSUES AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THERE AREN'T INAPPROPRIATE THINGS BEING DONE. THE MONEY IS BEING COLLECTED IT AND SO WE IN-HOUSE AUDIT THOSE THINGS. SOMETIMES, THOSE TITLES GET REJECTED FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS AND WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND FIX THOSE. SOME OF THEM THROUGH A PROCESS, WHICH IS THE NATIONAL MOTOR VEHICLE TITLE INFORMATION SYSTEM. SOMETIMES, WE GET REJECTED ON THE SYSTEM, BECAUSE OF THAT WE HAVE TO GRAB THOSE. SOMETIMES IT'S BECAUSE OF THE VIN NUMBER IS MISSING. OR MAYBE THERE IS A LEGAL HOLD OR SOMETHING ON THOSE TITLES. IT IS VERY LABOR INTRUSIVE. WE NEED THAT PIECE OF THE PUZZLE. WE HAVE ONE PERSON TO IT. I UNDERSTAND THAT OUR PARENTS ARE TIED WITH BASICALLY 3.5%. WE GET THAT, WE MAY OR MAY NOT GET THOSE AND WE MAY NOT GET THE FUNDING FOR THAT. >> OKAY, LOOK AT ONE THEM IS COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTROL. AND SOME OF IT IS OUT OF YOUR CONTROL BECAUSE IT IS JUST A VOLUME SITUATION, I DO NOT KNOW IT WILL KNOW WHAT TO SAY? >> YES, WE ARE GROWING IT IS WHAT IT IS. WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO BE AS EFFICIENT AND STREAMLINED THE PROCESS. IT IS A VERY UNFORTUNATE TITLING A MOTOR VEHICLE IS VERY LABOR [00:15:02] INTRUSIVE. IT IS A VERY MANUAL PROCESS, AND WHEN PEOPLE DON'T DO THIS VERY OFTEN AND ONE THING IS COOL ABOUT THE CLIO OFFICE WE ALL NOW HOW LONG IT TAKES. IT TAKES ANYWHERE FROM TEN TO 2. AND MORE FOR AN OUT-OF-STATE REGISTRATION BECAUSE OF THE PROCESSES THAT ARE INVOLVED. IT IS NOT A FAST PROCESS, AND THAT, IT IS WHAT IT IS. >> I APPRECIATE IT, SINCE THE KIOSK ON INSTALL FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH ANYTIME YOU CHANGE SOMETHING. >> I WAS SCARED TO DEATH. >> IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS REALLY ROLLING WELL. I WILL SAY THERE IS NOT ENOUGH PLACES TO SIT, MAY BE AN ARCHITECT COULD HELP US WITH THAT ON THE FIRST FLOOR AS HE REVAMPS FIRST FLOOR FOR SECURITY. WE WILL ASK HIM TO CONSIDER HOW WHAT HE CAN DO OR WHAT HE CAN RECOMMEND? >> ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE KIOSK TO IT ALSO WILL PING YOU ON THE CELL PHONE. >> SO YOU CAN WAIT IN YOUR CAR. >> SO YOU CAN WHAT YOUR CAR AND THAT WAS THE KIND OF IDEA OF GET THIS PARTICULAR SYSTEM. SO PEOPLE CAN SOCIAL DISTANCE ON THEIR OWN AND NOT BE FORCED INTO A SPECIFIC AREA. THEY CAN GO GRAB A SANDWICH OR THEY CAN WALK OUTSIDE OF THE CARDS WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. THEY CAN SEE IF IT'S TWO OR THREE HOURS AND THEY CAN LEAVE AND GO RUN ERRANDS AND COME BACK. THAT'S WHY EVERYTHING GOES BACK TO THE CELL PHONE. THEY COULD JUST WAIT THERE I WOULD SAY AROUND 97 BC -- MIKE I WOULD SAY BETWEEN 98 OR 97 BY THE PEOPLE WILL LIKE THAT CELL PHONE FEATURE. >> I THINK SOME TIME TO MAKE A TRICKY COME UP ALMOST EVERY OTHER TIME AND WILL BE WONDERFUL. >> YES IT NOT YOUR CAR IN THE SUMMERTIME. >> I WILL SAY IMAGINING A YEAR FORWARD FOR NOW, BUT WE HAVE THE ENVELOPE DOWN. THE SECOND FLOOR IS AMAZING WE HAVE LOTS OF GREAT SEATING. THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES I THINK WITHIN A YEARS TIME KEVIN WILL HAVE LOTS OF SEATING. OUR FOLLOWING A HEROES MEMORIAL IT FEELS AND LOOKS LIKE IT SHOULD LOOK A BEAUTIFUL PARK. >> ONE THING THAT I THINK WE COULD, JUST TO PUT IN THE BACK YOUR MINDS, THAT WOULD DEFINITELY HELP OUR EFFICIENCY IS, SOMEWAY SOMEHOW, WE COULD GET MY OPERATIONS ON THE SAME FLOOR. >> OPERATIONS ON THE SAME FOR? >> THAT WILL BE ABLE TO BETTER UTILIZE THE CROSS TRAINING OF STAFF. THAT'S THE WAY A LOT OF THE OTHER COUNTIES RUN. THEY DON'T HAVE SEPARATED PROPERTY TAX ON A DIFFERENT FLOOR. THEY SWITCH IN OUR SATELLITE DO. >> WILL NOW IS THE TIME TO ASK THAT DAVID IS TO THINK ABOUT THAT. I WOULD BE WILLING TO HAVE US ALL GO DOWN. >> LONG TERM, IF WE COULD COULD JUST GET, ONE OF THE THINGS TO THINK ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH THE HIGHER VOLUME IF NOT THE HIGHEST VOLUME OF PEOPLE ON A DAILY BASIS COMING THROUGH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ONES ON JURY DUTY. BUT YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT HOW THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT AN ELEVATOR, OR AN ESCALATOR. BECAUSE, THE HYDRAULIC ELEVATOR WILL BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT YOU PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AN ESCALATOR SYSTEM UP ON A DIFFERENT FLOOR. >> RIGHT, DO YOU EVER, DO YOU EVER ENVISION THEN THAT MAKES IT HARD FOR US TO ENVISION MOTOR VEHICLES EVER BEING OUTSIDE OF THIS BUILDING? IT WOULD ALWAYS NEED TO BE BY TAX ASSESSOR? OR DO YOU HAVE A SATELLITE ACCESS TO? >> WELL, WE COULD, I THINK LONG-RANGE I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD BE CENTRALLY LOCATED. WHERE THE REST OF THE POPULATION IS. YEARS BACK, WE LOOKED AT UTILIZING SOME SPACE AT SUNRISE. WE COULD PUT THE WHOLE OPERATION IN ONE SPOT LIKE THAT. >> BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE ARE TALKING. >> YOU KNOW WITH ADEQUATE PARKING. >> WERE TALKING ABOUT RECORDS WAREHOUSE AND THAT MAKES SENSE IF WE WERE TO HAVE A BUILDING WHERE OTHER DEPARTMENTS COULD ALL BE CROSS COLLATERALIZED. >> SUNRISE MALL. >> SUNRISE MALL WOULD BE A GREAT LOCATION. >> THAT WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNE LOCATION FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THE PARKING IS ALREADY THERE. >> IT IS I KNOW. >> YET SOMETHING WE COULD PICK A BACK POCKET. >> YES SOMETHING WE CAN PUT IN THE BACK POCKET LET ME OPEN UP THE FLOOR. COM. CHESNEY OR COM. GONZALEZ ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >> I'M GLAD YOU'RE ASKING TO JUSTIFY YOUR REQUESTS AND I KNOW BUDGETS WILL BE TIGHT. I DO WANT TO COMMENT PUBLICLY LIKE I DO EACH YEAR. I KNOW ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS IN ELECTION OFFICIALS TAKE [00:20:01] A LOT OF CONSIDERATION ABOUT THE BUDGET. I KNOW KEVIN IS ALWAYS WORKED HARD TO ENSURE HE IS RESOURCEFUL WITH WHAT HE HAS BEEN GIVEN. HE ALWAYS TRIES TO LOOK AT TRYING TO LOOK AND CUT THE BUDGET WHERE HE CAN. SO, IT IS EASY TO AS FOR THE WORLD, BUT IT OBVIOUSLY IT IS MORE DIFFICULT TO REALLY TRY TO CARVE DOWN A BUDGET THAT IS VERY LEAN. AND STILL PROVIDE SERVICES NEEDED. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS DOING THAT. ALSO, WORKING THROUGH THE MONTH OF APRIL WHICH IS AMAZING. EVERY TIME I'M WALKING DOWN THERE, A LOT OF PEOPLE AND STILL AT THAT POINT SOCIAL DISTANCING. I DID NOT GET TO GO OUT TO ROB'S TOWN DURING THAT TIME. WHAT WAS THE VOLUME THERE? >> IT WAS JUST AS CRAZY AS IT WAS HERE. EVEN PORT ARRANGES, HAD OVERFLOW FROM THE POWER BLUFF AREA AND SO FORTH. SO, IT WAS, IT WAS TOUGH. I WILL TELL YOU STAFF WAS WORN OUT. YOU KNOW, WE WERE PROCESSING FROM ANYWHERE FROM ON THE LOW-END ABOUT 560 TRANSACTIONS A DAY TO THE HIGH-END OF ABOUT 746. I THINK THAT WAS A HIGH-END AND THAT WAS JUST HERE. THAT IS NOT INCLUDING OTHER COUNTIES. THE ONLY REASON WHY I WAS ABLE TO SEE THAT IS BECAUSE IT IS BEEN ROLLED TO THE ROB'S TOWN OFFICES AS WELL. WE JUST HAVE ONE PERSON IN THE OTHER OFFICES. YOU GET THERE AND WE DON'T HAVE THE VOLUME OUT THERE UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES YOU WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE. SO WE OPTED TO NOT PUT IT OUT THERE. >> I ENJOYED IT AND I HAD TO DO IT IT JUST HAPPENS IT'S IN APRIL. BUT I WAS ABLE TO GO ON A MORNING THAT MORNING WAS NOT MANY PEOPLE SIGNED UP. I THOUGHT OKAY, LET ME SIGN UP THE KIOSK, I WILL COME SIS TO MY OFFICE DROP UP MY STUFF. AND THEN I WILL COME BACK. NO, THAT THING WAS ALREADY BUSTED ME WHEN I WAS WALKING UP THE STAIRS. IT WAS BUZZ ME BEFORE 20 MINUTES I THOUGHT HAD ENOUGH TIME TO WALK UPSTAIRS AND COME BACK DOWN. THEN IT WAS BUZZING, SO I TURNED AND WENT BACK DOWN IT ONLY TOOK ABOUT TWO OR 3 MINUTES AND IT WAS ALREADY TELL ME I WAS GOING TO LOSE MY SPOT. I HAD TO QUICKEN MY STEP TO GET OVER. BUT, I REALLY APPRECIATED THAT AS A USER. TO BE ABLE TO EXPERIENCE AND TO SAY WOW, WHAT A PERFECT TIME TO HAVE A ROLLOUT, AND HOPEFULLY BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE SPENDING THEIR TIME HERE. I'M GLAD THAT YOU IMPLEMENTED THAT AND IT WORKED WELL AT LEAST WHEN I WAS THERE. >> ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT AT LEAST IT DOES ALSO, TRY TO SPREAD THE WORD, WE TRY TO DO THIS IS MUCH AS WE CAN. YOU CAN ACTUALLY SCHEDULE APPOINTMENTS AHEAD OF TIME. AND IT CAN BE TIME SPECIFIC. SO, YOU GET ON THE WEBSITE AND THE TAX ASSESSOR'S COLLECTORS, YOU CAN DO IT ON THE DESKTOP VERSION TO DO IT DOES NOT WORK ON CELL PHONES WE ARE WORKING ON THAT WITH IT. HOPEFULLY THAT WILL GET FIXED ON THE ROAD. BUT, YOU CAN SET A TIME SPECIFIC APPOINTMENT, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS LEFT ENOUGH APPOINTMENTS OPEN SO THAT WAY, THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT ONE SUB GETS FILTERED IT AROUND THOSE. SO, IT WILL PUT YOU IN THE QUEUE AUTOMATICALLY. YOU WILL PROBABLY SEE IT INTO OR 3 MINUTES IN THAT SPECIFIC TIME. SO ON WEDNESDAY OF NEXT WEEK IF YOU WANT A BREAK THAT I CAN DO, AND LOOKING IN THERE, AND YOU WILL BE SEEING AT THIS TIME SO YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WAIT. SO IT IS LOTS OF REALLY COOL FEATURES, TO BE UTILIZED. SO MAKE SURE YOU WILL LET YOUR CONSTITUENTS KNOW THAT. >> I KNOW I'M JUST GOING TO SAY DO YOUR PART, WHATEVER WE CAN TO GET THE WORD OUT. WE KNOW PEOPLE ARE COMING DURING LUNCH BREAKS, OR SOMETIMES UNFORTUNATELY HAVE TO CUT OUT OF WORK AND THOSE WHO GET PAID ONLY WHEN THEY SHOW UP, THAT IS A BURDEN OR HARDSHIP. BEING EFFICIENT WHERE THEY MAKE COME DURING A LUNCH BREAK OR MAYBE BEFORE WORK STARTS OR ENDS. I THINK THAT IS HELPFUL. >> THAT IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE PROCESS I KNOW PEOPLE ARE BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN WAIT IN LINE. IT WORKS QUITE WELL. EXCEPT WHEN THE SYSTEM GOES OUT. >> THANKS KEVIN. >> EXCUSE ME KEVIN? I ALSO AGREED YOU DO NEED THIS ADDITIONAL STAFF, AND I HOPE WE CAN GET IT TO YOU. BECAUSE I WAS HERE WHEN WAS THE LAST DAY OF TAX TIME. AND I NOTICED THE LINES, THE WAY THEY WERE COMPLAINING. AND ONE CAME UP TO ME AND SAYS CAN YOU ALL DO BETTER THAN THIS? AND THIS IS THE BEST WE COULD DO UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES. SO, I AM HOPING THAT WE CAN HELP YOU ALL OUT. >> I APPRECIATE THAT, I ALWAYS DO FOR MY TO WAIT TILL LAST MINUTE, EXPECT TO WAIT. >> THERE IS NO LINE RIGHT NOW. >> RIGHT, THERE IS ABOUT A WAIT [00:25:06] TIME. WHEN IT GETS REALLY BAD. AND AS WE ALL KNOW WE CANNOT STAFF UP FOR SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS WILL BEGIN OF THE YEAR. JUST A SPECK TO WAIT IF COMING TO THE BEACH, IT IS LIKE GOING TO DINNER ON VALENTINE'S DAY, AND EXPECTING TO NOT WAIT. IT'S JUST NOT GONNA HAPPEN. I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, COME IN THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY, YOUR WAIT TIME MIGHT BE TWO OR 3 MINUTES. IF YOU COME AT THE END OF JANUARY, IT MIGHT BE TWO HOURS. >> OKAY GREAT, I AM TRYING TO GET A BIT OF HER CLASSMATES. COM. CHESNEY YOU ARE ON DO HAVE A QUESTION? >> THANKS CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? >> YES. >> JUST APPOINT A PERSONAL PRIVILEGE I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE KEVIN ON HIS SON'S GRADUATION, AND THEY HAD A OUTSTANDING ACADEMIC AND ATHLETIC CAREER AND IS OFF TO URIW IN IS GOING PLAY A LITTLE FOOTBALL. AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION TODAY. I KNOW IT IS A BIG YEAR END YOUR FAMILY, JUST LIKE IT IS FOR MINUS FIRST GRADUATION SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU. >> THANK YOU PRESCIENT. >> CONGRATULATIONS. >> YES ABSOLUTELY. WELL WONDERFUL, BUT WE WILL CALL YOU BACK IF WE HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. >> ALREADY APPRECIATED. >> LET'S MOVE ONTO THE ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND, WHICH IS IN YOUR BULBS AS PART OF 0120-123, AND WENT TO ONE. IT IS ON PAGE 731. ALL RIGHT WE ARE READY. >> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. >> GOOD MORNING. >> I WILL START OFF WITH OUR ROAD AND BRIDGE REQUEST, THIS YEAR WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY CHANGE OTHER THAN ON CAPITAL OUTLAY, WE HAVE A LIST THERE OF ALL OF THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT THAT WE WERE REQUESTING WITH THE LEAST PROGRAM OF THE VEHICLES THAT GIVES US MORE ROOM TO REQUEST, THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT THAT IS DIRELY NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE LIST IS THERE ON THE DESCRIPTIONS, WE NEED BACKHOES, AND SKID STEERS, AND A WATER TRUCK, TENDER TRUCKS. ALL OF THIS EQUIPMENT, THAT WE ARE REQUESTING OR JUST REPLACEMENTS. WE ARE GOING TO REPLACE THEM, BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS OLD AND AT TIMES NOT FULLY FEASIBLE TO REPAIR ANY MORE. THE ONLY TWO ADDITIONS THAT WE HAVE ARE THE 'TRAILERS AND ONE DUMP TRUCK. SO, WE COULD USE DIFFERENT VEHICLES AND DIFFERENT ROAD ROADSIDES, SO WE DO NOT HAVE THE KIND OF WAIT FOR ONE BACKHOE TO BE DONE AT ONE ROAD CONSTRUCTION SITE AND THEN MOVING TO ANOTHER. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE VARIOUS HEAVY EQUIPMENT WORKING AT DIFFERENT, AT THE SAME TIME AT DIFFERENT ROADS. WE ARE ALSO REQUESTING TO REPLACE SOME COMPUTERS THAT WE HAVE IN SOME OF OUR FIELD OFFICES. WE HAVE LIKE SIX COMPUTERS THAT ARE AT LEAST FROM 2010-2015-2016-THEY ARE GETTING OLD AND SLOW, AND WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO KIND OF TRY TO REPLACE THOSE COMPUTERS. >> OKAY. >> OKAY DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON A CAPITAL OUTLAY? >> LISA HAS ONE. >> YOU DID NOT PUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THOSE AGING COMPUTERS? >> YES, THERE IS A LINE ITEM FOR 9,300. >> OKAY, I WAS LOOKING AT THE LINE ABOVE IT. >> IT SAYS REPLACE SIX COMPUTERS FOR 9,300, I USED THE COST FROM WHAT WE HAVE THAT IS PROVIDED TO US FROM THE COMPUTERS. >> ALRIGHT THANK YOU I'M SORRY. >> JUST SO THE COURT KNOWS THE AMOUNT THEY ARE REQUESTING IS VERY SMALL SO WE DO OUR RECOMMENDATION WILL PARTNER WITH THEM IN THE ENTIRE AMOUNT. >> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IS ON THIS PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, SOME OF THIS EQUIPMENT IS OLD. I THINK ADD PRESENTATION A YEAR AGO, SOME OF THESE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT OR FROM 1970 AND 1980 PIECES OF EQUIPMENT. OUR MECHANIC SHOPS HAS DONE AN [00:30:03] EXTREMELY GREAT JOB TRYING TO KEEP THESE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT. I THINK IT IS TIME TO REPLACE THEM, AND LIKE YOLANDA SAID, SOMETIMES WE ARE AT A JOBSITE AT ONE LOCATION AND WE ARE WAITING FOR A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT TO BE ABLE FOR US TO GO OUT AND USE THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. SO THAT IS KIND OF VERY NON- EFFICIENT. BY US GETTING THESE PIECE OF GOVERNMENT, IT WILL MAKE THINGS A LITTLE MORE EFFICIENT. >> WHY DON'T YOU GIVE US A LIST OF ALL THE EQUIPMENT, AND ITS DATE, AND THAT WAY WHEN WE APPROVE IT, WE CAN TELL OUR PUBLIC, WE'VE RAISED 20 PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, HERE IS THE AGE OF ALL OF THEM. SO I KNOW IT'S NOT 11970 PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. IT WILL BE AN ACCUMULATIVE, SO GO AHEAD AND GRAB THAT AND OF COURSE YOU WILL KEEP YOU NUGATORY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WARRANTY IS, IS NEVER LONG WARRANTIES BUT SOMETIMES AS LONG WAY. >> THAT IS OUR GOAL WITH THE LEASE PROGRAM, WE DO NOT HAVE TO REQUEST VEHICLES ANYMORE. SO OUR GOAL IS TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT AGING HEAVY EQUIPMENT LIST, AND START REPLACING THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT. BECAUSE, THAT IS OUR HEAVY EQUIPMENT IS JUST EXPENSIVE. IT RANGES FROM 100,000 TO A HUNDRED AND 75,000 JUST TO REPLACE ONE PIECE OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT. >> YES, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL THAT WAY. DALE IS ALREADY PREDISPOSED, LET US MAKE THE CASE TO THE PUBLIC, THAT YOU ARE GETTING ALL THIS EQUIPMENT BECAUSE IT IS OLD. SO JUST YOU HAVE YOUR LIST ALREADY. JUST TAKE THE SAME LIST AND PUT A YEAR ON IT. THAT WILL HELP WHEN WE MAKE OUR CHECK, CHECK, CHECKED OUT GROOMING SINCE WE ARE GIVING YOU THOSE BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF THE EQUIPMENT. >> JUDGE THIS IS A MORE GENERAL QUESTION LIKE THE DESKTOP COMPUTERS WE'VE SEEN COPIERS MISSING ITEMS THAT WE KNOW THAT OVER TIME WE HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH THE BEST OF TECHNOLOGY TO BE ABLE TO DO THE RIGHT JOB. AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE BROUGHT THAT ON. DO WE HAVE ANY WAY OF TRACKING TO SEE WHAT EQUIPMENT IS, AND WHAT IS OLD? WHAT IF THERE IS SOMEONE SAYING I CAN HOLD ON WITH SOME DUCT TAPE AND SOME GONE FOR A FEW MORE YEARS. OR WHAT HAVE YOU, DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT IS REALLY GOING TO OVERSEE THAT FOR US? SO, THAT MAYBE YOU KNOW, THIS SEEMS LIKE THIS IS THE YEAR, BUT MAY BE IN THE FEW YEARS. THIS IS A BULKIER THAT WERE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD UP FOR AND BY A LOT. BECAUSE USUALLY BOECK IS A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER. >> I CAN TELL YOU FOR THE COMPUTERS THE ANSWER IS YES. COPIERS IS THE FIRST I HEARD OF IT, BUT IT WAS EXCITING TO HEAR MICHAEL BRING A COMPREHENSIVE COPIER. BUT, I KNOW ON COMPUTERS, AT LEAST WHEN LANCE WAS HERE, AND I'M SURE DARRELL WILL CONTINUE THIS, THAT THEY KEEP TRACK OF HOW MANY YEARS YOU HAVE GOT MAINLY ON THESE. ALL OF OUR TECHNOLOGY. >> YES, FOR THIS -- RIGHT BEFORE THE PANDEMIC IT I KNOW THE IT DEPARTMENT WAS LOOKING THROUGH ALL THE COMPUTERS WITH EXPIRED WARRANTIES. WE HAD A PLAN OF REPLACING 30% OF THOSE AT THE TIME. BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC CAME UP, THERE WAS A BIG SHIFT, I'M PRETTY SURE WITH IT YOU CAN GET BACK DOING SOME OF THE STUFF. WITH THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY LAPTOPS, AND BE REMOTE, SO THAT KINDA BROKE DOWN THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT. ONCE DARRELL GETS INVOLVED, WE WAS NOT GOING TO THE PROCESS AGAIN. >> OKAY THANK YOU. >> WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE OLD OFFICE SUPPLIES? DOES ECHOING OPTION OR ANYTHING? >> MICHAEL PROBABLY WANT TO ANSWER THIS, THE MOST THINGS IN MOST TIMES WE WOULD DEAFLY AUCTION THEM OFF. >> THEY ARE DECLARED SURPLUS BY THE COURT, AND THEN THAT ALLOWS US TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO SELL IT. A LOT OF THESE COMPONENTS JUST LIKE AN OLD PHONE. >> ONE YEAR THE COURT ALLOWED THE DONATION TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. BUT MOST TIMES THEIR OPTION. >> SO THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF MAKING A LITTLE BIT OF INCOME FROM THEM? >> YES. >> BUT YOU DO NOT WANT TO HOLD ONTO IT, SOMETIMES IT IS MORE HEADACHE THAN IT'S WORTH. >> THERE WERE BROUGHT INTO ID AND THE CLEARER ALL THE STUFF OFF THE HARD DRIVES AND THEY ARE BROUGHT BACK TO BASIC WHAT THEY STARTED WITH. >> THAT IS GREAT, OKAY SO, ALRIGHT SO THAT WAS 0120. AND THERE ARE SOME PERSONNEL REQUESTS. >> YES, WE HAVE A PERSONNEL REQUEST JUST TO BRING UP OUR SENIOR ACCOUNT ASSISTANT TO SENIOR COUNTIES ASSISTANT TO AN [00:35:04] SENIOR ACCOUNTING ASSISTANT NUMBER TWO TO A SENIOR ACCOUNTING THREE. JUST TWO. >> TO RECLASSIFY ALL OF THOSE? >> YES, TO MEET THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT HAVE, YOU THAT YOU KNOW HAVE ALL OF THE THAT HAVE BEEN ADDITIONAL TO THE ACCOUNTING STAFF. >> OKAY. >> AND THEN WE HAVE ALSO, I WILL LET MR. PIMENTEL TALK ABOUT THAT. >> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, I KNOW WE LET THIS ONE OFF THE LIST AND I DO APOLOGIZE. I KNOW THAT LATELY THE DRAINAGE CONDITIONS THAT WE HAVE BEEN HAVING, YOU KNOW IT IS NOT PART OF THE LIST. BUT, WE DO WANT TO REQUEST AND WE CAN PUT THAT IN LATER, AT LEAST GETTING EITHER TO HYDRO X MACHINES SO WE CAN'T HAVE TWO CREWS OUT THERE JUST CONTINUOUSLY ON A 365 DAYS A YEAR THROUGHOUT THE YEAR CLEANING OUT CULVERTS, AND CLEANING OUT THE ENDS OF THE CULVERTS. AND JUST CONTINUOUSLY HAVE A CREW JUST DOING THAT. BECAUSE, I THINK IF WE GET THESE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT IT WILL KIND OF MINIMIZE AND KINDA ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE POSSIBLE DRAINS ISSUES THAT WE HAVE BEEN HAVING. I KNOW IT DID NOT GET PUT ON HIS PART OF THIS THIS, BUT WE CAN ADD IT. >> HOW MUCH ARE THEY? >> JUDGE, I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, I AM APPROXIMATING, ANYWHERE FROM 250000-500,000 FOR THOSE HYDRATES MACHINES. >> EACH? >> EACH, WE ARE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY MAYBE IF WE CAN GO TO ONE OF THESE SURPLUS EQUIPMENT AND SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY AND GET THEM FOR A LOT LESS AT COST. JERRY AND MYSELF ARE PLANNING ON GOING OUT THERE AND LOOKING AND SEEING IF THEY HAVE THESE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT? >> YES, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. IT IS JUST, THEY ARE EXPENSIVE. I MEAN, LITERALLY EVERY DEPARTMENT NEEDS PERSONNEL. WITH A MILLION DOLLARS, YOU CAN PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE TO WORK. BUT, THIS IS A ONE-SHOT THING, YOU NEED TO TELL US HOW LONG THE EQUIPMENT WILL LAST, THE MAINTENANCE ASSOCIATED WOULD BE? AND I AM CONFUSED AS TO WHO WOULD RUN THEM? >> IN THIS CASE, WE WOULD REQUEST ADDITIONAL CREWS. SO. >> SO YOUR MILLION NOW WAS 2 MILLION. >> ABOUT TWO PERSONS PER EQUIPMENT. ADDITIONAL. TO ME THIS IS A GOOD IDEA, SO IT WOULD CONTINUOUSLY ADD THIS STUFF, AND WE WILL HAVE A SCHEDULE THAT WE ARE JUST RUNNING THROUGH THESE CULVERTS AND CLEANING THEM OUT. HOPEFULLY, WE CAN LOOK AT THE EQUIPMENT AND IS A LOT LESS THAN WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING. BUT, WE WILL GET THOSE NUMBERS TO YOU. >> YES, WORK IT UP. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR JERRY. JERRY SINCE YOU ARE THE OLD-TIMER HERE, YOU HAVE BEEN HERE WHAT 40 YEARS? >> 40 YEARS. >> YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGES. >> IDENTIFIED COMMISSIONERS, FIVE JUDGES IN FIVE ENGINEERS. >> WHILE I AM JUST ASKING YOU THIS, BECAUSE I ALSO WAS WORKING FOR THE COUNTY BACK WHEN THE OLD QUARTER HOUSE WAS IN OPERATION. I WORKED WITH SOME OF THOSE FOLKS, AND A SOME WHAT THEY WERE DOING. AT THAT TIME, WE DID NOT HAVE, WE HAD ENOUGH MOWERS DID WE? >> YEAH, I AM GOING TO GO WITH THE LIST THAT I GOT HERE IF I DON'T MIND. >> GO AHEAD. >> WHEN THE PRECEDING COMMISSIONERS HAVE THE PRECINCT, EVERY PRECINCT HAD 16 EMPLOYEES. WHICH COMES TO 240. MOWERS, WE HAVE SIX RIGHT NOW, WE USED TO HAVE 24 MOWERS MOWING OUT THERE. SO, THAT IS WHY THE CALLS ARE COMING INTO COMMISSIONERS COURT AND THE JUDGE THAT WE ARE NOT MOWING, WE ARE NOT DOING THIS. WE DO NOT HAVE THE MANPOWER, WE WENT FROM 240, TWO 70. SOME OF THESE CREWS HAVE TO DO MULTIPLE JOBS. IF SOME HAPPENS AND IS A COMPLAINT HERE, WHIMSICAL PUT OUT THAT FIRE, A COMPLAINT THERE WE HAVE TO PUT OUT THE FIRE. WERE MOVING AROUND WE LOST PEOPLE. RIGHT NOW THERE IS ABOUT 13 WHEN THE ROAD INCREASE TOOK OVER AND PUBLIC WORKS. ALSO WE HAVE FOUR GREAT ALL'S TRAINING DITCHES. FOR A GRADE ELSE, DUMP TRUCKS, TO OPERATORS, ONE GROUND GUY. SO, THAT IS A LIE. FOR 704 MILES OF COLLEGIATE DIRT [00:40:08] AND DITCH WORK, THAT IS A LOT. WE ARE TRYING TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN, WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, IT IS GOOD TO LOOK, WHEN I WAS WITH THEM, THERE WAS A LOT OF THE CREW LEADERS THAT WE HAD, THEY DECIDED WE NEED TO CUT PEOPLE. SO, OKAY WILL YOU GO. THEY HAD PUBLIC WORKS. I MEAN,, YOU KNOW THOSE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE NEEDED THEY WERE OUR TOP EMPLOYEES. TO OPERATE THE SYSTEM SO WE LOST HIM. RIGHT NOW, ON THE 4-YARD, WE JUST GOT 22, WE HAVE SHOULD HAVE 30. ON ROUGH STYLE WE HAD 16 WE HAVE 23. AT CENTRAL WE SHOULD HAVE 16 WE HAVE TEN. MECHANICS WE ARE 14, THAT COMES TO A TOTAL OF 70. SO, WE ARE REALLY NEEDING SOME HELP ON EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE A LOT OF OLD EQUIPMENT, WE ALSO HAVE MECHANICS, WE ARE SHORT ON MECHANICS. THERE WAS ONE MECHANIC THAT IS DOING THE WHOLE 704 MILES. WHENEVER SOMETHING BREAKS, THAT ONE ROADIE MECHANIC, BACK THEN WE HAD ONE ROAD MECHANIC AN AWFUL PRECINCT. THAT HE WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE PRECINCT YARDS WITH OTHER MECHANICAL PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAD. SO, WE ARE RUNNING SHORT. WE ARE ADVERTISING,. >> HOW MANY VACANCIES YOU HAVE IT NOW? >> RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 14. >> SO YOU ARE NOT SHORT BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT GIVEN YOU THE MANPOWER, WE ARE SHORT BECAUSE NOBODY IS FILLED THOSE JOBS? >> RIGHT, OFF OF WHAT WE A PUBLIC WORKS. NOT TO SAY WE HAVE OVER 100 EMPLOYEES, WHAT WE USED TO HAVE 240. THAT IS WHAT I'M GETTING TO. WE ARE NEEDING MORE EMPLOYEES. >> IS THE PAY FOR THOSE VACANCIES COMPETITIVE? >> WHAT? >> THE PAY FOR THE VACANCIES OF A BEING COMPETITIVE WITH THE CITY IN THE STATE? >> KNOW, OUR ENTIRE COUNTY'S NONCOMPETITIVE, WE HAD NOT EVEN AT THE 25% MARK. >> THERE IS A PROBLEM. >> JUDGE, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IS EVERY WEEK WE GET ADDED TO THE PROPERTY DEVELOPMENTS ARE PADDING'S OF SUBDIVISIONS COMING IN. THOSE ARE SUBDIVISIONS WE ARE GOING TO END UP TAKING OVER ON ROADS AND OF MAINTENANCE OF DITCHES. SO, AS THOSE GET APPROVED, WE ARE NOT ONLY DOING SOME OF THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT MIGHT INCREASE. I TALKED TO MICHAEL FROM OUR OFFICE, BASED ON HIS STATISTICS, HE IS SAYING THAT WE HAVE ALREADY GROWN ABOUT 30% FROM WHEN JERRY IN 20 YEARS FROM A LONG TIME AGO. NOT ONLY OUR REDUCING STAFF, WE ARE INCREASING OUR ROAD AND BRIDGE MAINTENANCE. SO WE ARE DOING THE OPPOSITE. IF WE DO NOT KEEP UP THAT CURVE, AND THAT LINE GOES UP AT THE SAME STAFF, WE WILL FALL BEHIND. >> THE ROADS ARE EXPANDING AND GOING. I HAD THE CHANCE TO RIDE WITH YOU GUYS DURING THE FLOODS. AS OTHER COMMISSIONERS DID. SO, I UNDERSTAND, AND I HAVE A GOOD VIEW OF WHAT THE PROBLEM IS AND WHAT IS OUR PROBLEM. SO, I AM HOPING THAT MAYBE WE CAN DO SOMETHING FOR YOU GUYS AND GET IT GOING. I DO GET THE SAME CALLS THAT YOU GET. >> YES, AND YOU KNOW WE DO GET AN INCREASE OF ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS AND WILL BE DOING MORE MAINTENANCE WITH LESS THAT. >> WE NEED TO WORK ON THOSE PONDS. THOSE RETENTION PONDS. ALRIGHT THANKS A LOT. >> ALSO THE LAST THING I WANT TO BRING UP, EVERYTHING IS GOING UP I KNOW WITH THIS GALWAY STUFF. MATERIALIZE, MATERIAL IS GOING UP. AND WE ARE STILL IN THE SAME BUDGET. WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO ASK FOR MORE MONIES FOR MATERIALS, BECAUSE MATERIALS ARE GOING UP. AND, WE ARE STILL AT THE SAME, AND WE ARE STILL NOT GETTING THAT MATERIAL THAT WE NEED, WE MAY NEED MORE MATERIALS. >> SO, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO FIGURE OUT THE SAVINGS ON THE 14 VACANCIES? WHAT THAT AMOUNTS TO? SO, WE CAN SEE HOW THAT OFFSETS LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, I MEAN, YOU HAVE BEEN RIDING ON THE MONEY OF YOUR VACANCIES. A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS DO WHICH ARE HARD TO FEEL LIKE CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS. BUT, NEVERTHELESS YOU NEED TO FILL THOSE 14 VACANCIES, AND THEN SEE HOW YOUR MANPOWER IS AFFECTED. YOU CAN DO A LOT OF SHIFTING AROUND, IF YOU HAVE 14 MORE PEOPLE, YOU WOULD HAVE A [00:45:02] COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SET UP IN PUBLIC WORKS. THIS IS NOT YOUR FAULT, BUT IT IS THE FAULT OF THE LEGISLATURE THAT REFUSES TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT WE ASKED FOR EITHER FUNDS, WE CHANGE FROM BEING AN ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY, TO LOSING THAT STATUS. WE DO NOT GET THE BIG MONEY THAT WE USED TO GET FROM THE STATES. SO WE'VE LOST ABOUT HALF A MILLION OR MORE THERE. THEN, WE CANNOT SEEM TO GET ANYBODY TO CARE ABOUT THIS COUNTY, ON TRANSPORTATION FEES. BECAUSE, THOSE FEES GO TO HELP US WITH THESE EXPANDING ROADS. I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW THIS, BUT YOU ARE GOING TO FIND OUT COMMISSIONERS ON THE 23RD, IT TURNS OUT IF YOU'RE A CERTAIN SENATOR YOU CAN GET YOUR TRANSPORTATION FEES BEST. BUT IF YOU'RE A SOUTH TEXAS CENTER -- BY SENATOR YOU CANNOT. SO THEY PUNISH YOU, IF YOU ARE FROM A CERTAIN NECK OF THE WOODS LIKE THEY DID IN HIDALGO AND NUECES COUNTY. THEY TOOK OUR SAME EXACT THE STRUCTURE OFF OF THE BILL, BUT THEY LET CERTAIN SENATORS HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. SO, WHEN PEOPLE TELL US THINGS UNFAIR, WE KNOW FIRSTHAND AND NUECES COUNTY THEY ARE NOT FAIR. WHAT THOSE OTHER DOLLARS THAT YOU ARE MISSING. THIS COURT HAS DONE WHAT IS NEEDED TO DO TO GET YOU THE PERSONNEL, WE NEED TO HAVE A ROBUST TALK WITH HR ABOUT HAVING A REAL COUNTY FAIR. A REAL CAREER FAIR, TO GET THOSE VACANCIES FILLED. WE HAVE TWO OR 3% HIGHER UNEMPLOYMENT IN OUR COUNTY THAT WE DO FOR THE REST OF THE STATE. SO PEOPLE NEED JOBS, WE HAVE A LOT TO OFFER IN A LONGEVITY, AND IN OUR BENEFITS, AND THEN OUR HOLIDAYS. IN THE WAY WE TREAT OUR PEOPLE, THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING GOOD HERE THAT WE CAN SELL BUT I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN REALLY ASSESS WHAT WE REALLY NEED NTU FAILURE 14. THAT IS CRITICAL. >> IN A WHILE BACK WE HAD A FAILURE AT WORKFORCE IN THE MALL. OUT OF 23 WE GOT FIVE. SO SOMETHING, IF WE GET MONEY OR JOB FAIRS LIKE THIS GOING, AND WE HAVE TIME FOR THE VETERANS IN THE MORNING AND THEN AFTER TEN OR 11:00 A.M., THE PUBLIC WILL COME IN. >> YEAH RIGHT. >> WHILE THERE WERE SOME OF VETERANS THAT APPLY TO THEY GOT HIRED. SO THAT IS THE HELP THAT WE HAVE. IF WE HAD MORE OF THESE JOB FAIRS, AND ONCE WE HAVE THESE APPLICATIONS, THEY ARE NOT SITTING. WE ARE ON THEM. BECAUSE THEY WILL GO LOOK FOR ANOTHER JOB A RELUCTANT. SO WE NEED TO KEEP THE SHIPYARDS IN THESE APPLICATIONS AND TRIED TO GET ANYBODY HERE. ALSO, WITH BACKGROUND CHECKS AND THE PHYSICAL THINGS, SOME OF THEM DO NOT PASS IT FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER. WE LOST IT. SOME OF THEM ARE OPERATORS, SOME OF THEM EQUIPMENT OPERATORS AND LABORERS OR WHATEVER. >> I GOT A CALL FROM ALL THE WAY INTO ARANSAS PASS. WE DON'T EVEN GET A CHANCE TO THINK ABOUT THAT LOCATION. THE COMPLEXITY OF HOW LARGE WE ARE, IS ONE THING. WE ARE NOT JUST LARGE, WE ARE WIDE. SO FROM TIP TO TIP, THE MILEAGE FROM THE ISLAND ALL THE WAY TO OTHER RURAL SOUTHERN AND RURAL WESTERN WHICH IS VERY LARGE. >> WEEK WE ARE TRYING MA'AM, AND COMMISSIONERS WE ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. IF WE GET THESE VACANCIES WE MIGHT COME BACK TO TALK TO YOU GUYS TO SEE IF WE CAN OPEN SOMETHING ELSE TO GET MORE PEOPLE. THEN, IDENTIFY WHAT WE NEED THEM FOR, SO YOU ALL KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT JUST ASK FOR PEOPLE OR BODIES. THEY ARE ASKING BECAUSE WE NEED THIS. THE MOWING CREW, THEY DO MOWING AND THEY DO CRACKED SAILING. SO WE HAVE TO STOP THEM FROM MOWING, TO GET THEM TO CRACK SEAL. SO IF YOU GET ANOTHER CREW FOR THEM FOR CRACK SELLING THAT LEASE 14 THAT WILL BE FASTER. SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO WORK ON. OF MOVING PEOPLE WHERE WE NEED THEM, SO WE KEEP ALL THESE JOBS AND ALL THE SPIES OUT WHEN YOU GET THEM. ALL WE DO NOT WANT YOU TO GET THERE. WE DO NOT WANT YOU TO GET ANY CALLS. BUT, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND, WE USED TO HAVE A WE DON'T HAVE. WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. WITH THE BEST EQUIPMENT AND MANPOWER THAT WE HAVE. AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS ON ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT AND STUFF THAT WE ARE REQUESTING. MAYBE IT CAN BE POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN GET IT, THEY ARE PROBABLY LIKE ME OLD. AND THEY NEED REPLACING. I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TIMES. >> I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, EVERY TIME HE I GOT A CALL THE FIRST ONE IS I CALL JUAN AND YOU JERRY. [00:50:04] I GOT A CALL FOR THE PEOPLE AND THEN THEY WANT TO TALK TO ME I WILL GO OVER THERE AS WELL. SO YOU HAVE PUT OUT A FEW FIRES FOR ME. AND THERE HAS BEEN A GENTLEMAN WISING UP ANY COUNTY TAXES FOR COUNTY ROADS? I SAID TALK TO THE COUNTY ENGINEER. BUT ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS AND WHAT YOU DO AND I KNOW WHAT YOU DO IS NOT EASY. ESPECIALLY WITH THE FLOODING GOING ON, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TO ALL OF YOUR STAFF. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY, ALRIGHT SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO 0121. >> IT 747 YOUR HONOR. >> 747. >> OKAY 40121, WE ARE JUST REQUESTING INCREASES IN SOFTWARE AND MAINTENANCE, WE HAVE MORE USES FOR AUTOCAD. BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE USES FOR AUTOCAD, NO THERE WILL BE AN INCREASE, AND USUALLY ANNUAL INCREASE IS ABOUT 3%, THERE MIGHT BE A BIT MORE INCREASE AS WE ADD MORE USES TO OUR AUTOCAD THAT IS USED EVERY DAY BY OUR ENGINEERING TAG, OUR ENGINEERS AND OUR SURVEYORS AND OUR GIS PERSON, AND THE ROAD INSPECTORS. SO, THAT IS A VERY HELPFUL TO THAT WE USE DAILY FOR AT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. THEY ARE ALSO REQUESTING, AND CAPITAL OUTLAY A PRETTY BIG SIZE AND SCANNER TWO STARTS, ARCHIVING THE MAPS AND SCAN THE MAPS. POSSIBLY LATER, WE CAN GET AN INTERN OR SOMEBODY THAT CAN START SCANNING THOSE MAPS FOR US. IT IS EASIER, I MEAN, IT WILL BE MORE ACCESSIBLE IF WE HAVE THEM SCAN AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE TO HAVE SOMEBODY TO OUR SCANNING FOR US WHEN WE NEED A MAP. THAT IS BASICALLY ALL WE ARE ASKING FOR ENGINEERING, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE OPERATING I WILL GO OVER TO THE PERSONNEL REQUEST. >> I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON THE ENTRANCE. I AM A FULL ON ADVOCATE OF THAT. EVERY SEMESTER I AT LEAST HAVE ONE ENTER IN MY OFFICE, THEN MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. I THINK THE PRESENTATION SEE WE HAD ABOUT A MONTH OR TWO AGO GOES DID GREAT WORK. I THINK IT SHOULD BE REQUIRED FOR ALMOST EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT WE HAVE, ONE IT HELPS I THINK IS A RECRUITMENT TOOL, IT GIVES US REAL-WORLD EXPERIENCE AND ALSO GIVES US SOMEONE THAT HAS A LOT OF QUALIFICATIONS THAT THEY CAN COME IN AND BRING TO YOUR OFFICE AS COMPARED TO SOMEBODY THAT MAY NOT HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE IN ALL. POSTING IS EASY, HR IS GREAT IN WORKING THE SYSTEM, I KNOW THEY DO FOR ME. EVERY SEMESTER I EVEN HAVE THE SUMMER SEMESTER NOW, SO I HOPE YOU ALL WOULD YOU REALIZE THAT, AND KEEP US UPDATED IF YOU DO. I AM REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT PROGRAM I THINK NOT THAT MANY COUNTIES TO IT. WE ARE REALLY GOING INTO THAT AS A RECEIPT WITH THE ARE UTILIZING THAT. THANK YOU. >> OKAY SO, IT REALLY IS JUST A SCANNER, WHICH IS LIKE 12 GRAND, NOTHING, LIKE 11 OR 12 IS NOTHING FOR THAT. >> YEAH, WE TRY TO FIND SOMETHING AND WE RESEARCH SOMETHING THAT THAT IS NOT VERY COSTLY BUT THAT WILL HELP US TO START SCANNING ALL OF THE MAPS THAT WE HAVE. >> SPEAKING OF THAT, MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO, WHEN WE GET THAT SCANNER, IS THE ABOMINATION THAT IS ON THE FIFTH FLOOR, MAYBE IT CAN LOOK DIFFERENTLY. WE GET TWO INTERNS ON THAT. FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED THAT IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. I KNOW YOU NEED TO SPACE, BUT WE WILL FIND YOU A DIFFERENT SPACE. BUT YOU NOW THE TAX ASSESSOR SAYS WE NEED TO BET A GEEK -- MIKE WE NEED TO BE TOGETHER, WE DO NEED TO BE TOGETHER. BUT, WE NEED A PUBLIC WORKS MANAGEMENT SPACE WHEN WE ARE IN A CRISIS. SO IT GETS TO HAVE TWO JEWELS, I AM HAPPY THAT YOU ARE HAPPY. BUT, THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW I AM NOT HAPPY. EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT, I THINK, THIS IS LIKE THE HARRY POTTER ROOM. IT IS LIKE, EVERYTHING IS IN IT THAT YOU NEED, BUT WHO CAN FIND IT? BUT, IF WE GOT THAT SCANNER, [00:55:02] MAYBE YOU GUYS COULD START DIGITIZING, OR SCANNING THOSE MAPS AND PUTTING THEM UP? >> YOU ARE CORRECT JUDGE AND THAT IS THE REASON SO WE CAN DIGITIZE EVERYTHING AND WE CAN HAVE SOME OF THOSE DOCUMENTS IN. >> THERE IS SOME WONDERFUL THINGS IN THERE. BUT SOME WAY IS IS ORGANIZED RIGHT NOW, IT IS A MESS. IT WOULD BE GREAT, BUT, YOU COULD USE AS A LITTLE OFFICE TOO. IT IS BIG ENOUGH TO MANEUVER IT, THAT CAN BE A GREAT SUMMER PROJECT FOR YOU GUYS. I AM TELLING YOU IT IS AWESOME SPACE, IT IS SPACE THAT WE WISH WE HAD BUT, LET'S MAKE IT BOTH. YOUR SPACE AND PUBLIC WORKS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. THAT IS WHERE YOU GO INTO, YOU COMPLETE YOUR COMPUTER THERE, YOU COULD HAVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED THERE FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. >> THAT IS VERY EXCITING. >> SO LET'S MOVE ONTO THE NEXT APARTMENT WHICH IS, I'M SORRY I HAVE PERSONNEL SO SORRY. >> SO WE HAVE A PERSONNEL REQUEST WE HAVE OUR RECLASSIFICATION, AND WE ARE ASKING FOR TWO NEW PROJECT MANAGERS AND, AN ARCHITECT, AN ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER AND MORE CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERS. >> I HAVE A TON OF QUESTIONS, BUT IN GENERAL START WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL? HOW WOULD YOU FACILITATE THEM? BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER WE JUST HIRED HER ACT COASTAL BARS AND SHE IS DOING ALL THE DOOM PERMITS. HOW WOULD THIS INTERFACE WITH YOU GUYS AND WHAT TYPE OF PROJECT? >> FOR UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS WE NEED AN ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER, ALSO WITH THE STORM WATER QUALITY PERMITS, WE ALSO HAVE AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS WE COULD PROBABLY HAVE SOMEBODY STAFF HERE FOR THOSE TYPE OF CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON. SO UNDERGROUND STORM WATER WHAT WAS THE THIRD? WAS. >> WAS THERE A THIRD ONE? >> WE STILL HAVE TO DO A PESTICIDE MANAGEMENT PLAN. >> OKAY. >> AND JUDGING COMMISSIONERS, I KNOW SOMETIMES WE NEED AND EVALUATE OF, IF ONE OF THE SIDES IS EITHER GOING TO BE WORKING ON EITHER IS GOING TO BE A WETLANDS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, A MEETING LIKE THIS CAN HELP US IN DETERMINING IF WE CAN EITHER DIG THERE OR DO SOME TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION THERE, TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THE RIGHT PERMIT IN ORDER TO PERFORM THE WORK THAT WE ARE DOING. >> OKAY, OKAY AND HOW ABOUT OUR CONSTRUCTION ENGINEER? >> THE CONSTRUCTION ENGINEER, I KNOW WE HAVE MULTIPLE PROJECTS GOING ON, WITH THE NEW MONIES THAT ARE COMING IN. HOPEFULLY, FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION WE DO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT CAN ASSIST US, NOT ASSIST US OR SOMEBODY THAT CAN MINIMIZE THE WORK THAT WE DO, GOING THROUGH AND HAVING SOMEBODY THAT CAN ACTUALLY ASSIST US IN THE PROJECTS, AND ALSO HOW PROTO- -- WROTE A BRIDGE WHEN THEY NEED TO. I KNOW RIGHT NOW, I GO OUT THERE, TO MONITOR SOME OF THESE PROJECTS TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS GOING RIGHT. SO THIS WOULD BE A PERSON THAT WOULD ASSIST WITH THAT. >> OKAY, AND THEN PROJECT MANAGERS? >> YES, MA'AM, THE PROJECT MANAGERS, THOSE WOULD BE PROJECT MANAGERS THAT WOULD ASSIST US AGAIN JUDGING COMMISSIONERS, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME NEW PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING OUT, AND ALSO SOME RELEASING NEW MONEY THAT MIGHT BE COMING OUT FOR CONSTRUCTION. SO, THESE PROJECT MANAGERS WOULD ASSIST US WITH AGAIN WERE SEEING THE PROJECTS, AND SCHEDULING THE PROJECTS, AND MAKING SURE THE PROJECTS ARE GOING IN A TIMELY MANNER. AND HELPING US OUT DURING CONSTRUCTION, ALSO ANY TEMPORAL REPORT THAT IS BEING DONE OR ANYWHERE, THEY CAN ALSO BE MANAGED IN THAT WAY TOO AND BE USING THAT FORM. AND THEN IN REGARDS TO AN ARCHITECT, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE AN ARCHITECT ON STAFF, AND THE REASON BEHIND THAT IS WE AREN'T GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF ADA PROJECTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE AN ARCHITECT ON STAFF, THAT CAN REVIEW THE DRAWINGS AND LOOK AT THEM AT THE SAME TIME, IN OTHER OFFICES THAT CAN ASSIST US. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE CAN [01:00:02] REQUEST FOR OFFICE SPACE THAT REQUIRES JUST A REMODELING, AND THEY CAN DO THE FLOOR PLANS FOR THOSE TYPES OF WORKS. IN SMALL PROJECTS THAT WE CAN KEEP ON GOING. THEY WILL GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY ON STAFF. >> OKAY, AND SO THE TOTAL IS 50505023? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS COMMISSIONERS? >> JUST A STATEMENT, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS AFFIRMED, YOU SHOULD HAVE AN ENGINEERING FIRM. LOVE, REALITY IS EVERYONE IS ASKING FOR A LOT, THEY'RE TRYING TO BE AS RESTRAINED AS POSSIBLE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GET ANY OF THESE? AND IF WE CAN AFFORD IT? BUT, EACH YEAR CONTINUE ASK FOR ANOTHER POSITION THAT YOU FEEL THAT IS THE MOST LIKELY OR KEY TO HELPING YOU AND SUCCESS. FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT TO HELP WORK WITH ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE. AND WORK WITH THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. >> THANK YOU COMMISSION. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> NOPE, I DO NOT HAVE ANY. >> OKAY, ALL RIGHT THE NEXT 1123? >> THE NEXT ONE WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PROJECTS THAT WILL REQUIRE ROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY. USUALLY THOSE COME WHEN WE DO ROW CONSTRUCTIONS. I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING FOR ROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY. UNLESS USUALLY WHEN I HAVE ROAD RIGHT AWAY IT IS WHEN WE ARE DOING SOME NEW CONSTRUCTION AND WE NEED ROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY. ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT I DO NOT HAVE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. >> THIS DEPARTMENT WAS SET UP WE HAD TO DO A ROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY ON THE STATE INTERSTATE 69. >> RIGHT. >> THAT'S WHAT MOST OF THOSE FUNDS ARE FOR. >> WELL YOU KNOW WE HAVE A 3.3 MILES OF I 69, THAT HIS PARTY. >> THIS OR THAT WAS. >> THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE THAT WAS. OKAY GUYS, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE IF YOU WANT TO THROW IN AS THEY SAY? DO AND EVERYTHING BUT THE KITCHEN SINK? >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU JUDGE FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. >> BEFORE YOU GUYS LEAVE, I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING. YOU DO HAVE ONE VACANCY THAT WE HAVE NOT FILLED. I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE APPLIED, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IN THE NEAR FUTURE. YOU DO HAVE APPLICANTS, THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING PIECE OF IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THIS COUNTY FOR A MILLION RIDGES WHO CAN THINK OF. IT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE ONE. IT IS A LOT LIKE THE LAWYERS YESTERDAY THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THEM THEY'RE GOING TO PASS THE BAR. YET IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WE NEED TO FILL THAT POSITION. AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAD SOMEBODY, THERE WAS NO PE LICENSE AND PRETTY STUCK ON THAT. HAVING SAID THAT, IF YOU CAN GET THAT FAILED, THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY TO WHAT I WOULD CALL GETTING YOUR ENGINEERING FIRM, SO DESCRIBE STARTED. YOU ALSO, WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT IT BUT THE INTERFACE BETWEEN PUBLIC WORKS AND COASTAL BARS. EVEN THOUGH THE TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES, THERE'S WAYS THAT WE INTERFACE WITH ONE ANOTHER. YOU KNOW WITH ALL THE PROJECTS GOING ON A COASTAL BARS, YOU MIGHT HAVE A REAL, AND ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING. ALL THE MONEY IS GOING TO COME TO THE COAST. IT WILL COME TO COASTAL BARS. IT WOULD HELP THE MONEY GO WEST AFFABLE. BUT THAT'S WAY LIFE IS I GUESS. BUT ALL THIS MONEY IS GOING TO COME TO THE COAST. IN ALL THESE PROJECTS WE GOING TO SEE THE RETENTION IF WE HAD A DEAL WE COULD HAVE SOME OF THESE FOLKS HELP US TO CLOSE AS WELL. THERE MIGHT BE A WAY THAT WE COULD WORK TOGETHER THERE. THERE IS AS MOST COASTAL PROJECTS AS YOU HAVE SUBDIVISIONS. I AM THINKING OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER, IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL SHOULD [01:05:04] ENTERTAIN WAS GONE CROSS. IF WE WERE TO GET THIS POSITION, HOW WOULD YOU ENVISION THAT THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL TO YOU AS WELL? THAT MAY CREATE MORE JUSTIFICATION. BECAUSE THE NEW HIRE, WHAT WAS GOING TO TAKE IT DEPARTMENT PLACE. BUT THE PARK WAS OUR NUMBER 1ME. SO YOU HAVE AN EE, AND ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER, YOU GOT A CONSTRUCTION ENGINEER, AND CONSTRUCTION ENGINEER MAY BE A GOOD ME. I I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE THINKING OF. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT'S OUT THERE? >> YES, MA'AM. >> YOU HAVE TO SEVERAL'S. >> YES WE HAVE TWO CIVIL. >> WE REALLY NEED TO GET THEM ON BOARDED, I AM MINDFUL OF THAT, WE ARE NOT TRYING TO THWART THAT EFFORT. WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT PUMPS AND FITS IN WITH THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE. >> JUDGE YOU HIT IT ON THE DETENTION AND RETENTION PONDS. THAT IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER MAINTENANCE THING, IT IS GOING TO BE HUGE, BECAUSE WHEN THOSE PONDS GET DESIGNED, THEY ARE DESIGNED TO A CERTAIN DEPTH AND VOLUME. WITHIN TIME, THEY START SILTING UP. SO WE START LOOKING AT THAT, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER CREW JUST TO MAINTAIN THOSE PONDS. BECAUSE, IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE MAINTENANCE, BECAUSE THEN YOU LOSE YOUR CAPACITY IN THE RETENTION POND. SO YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH NOT. >> THIS IS WHY WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING IN ISOLATION, IF WE ARE SMART WHAT WE WOULD DO IS ENGAGE IN INTERLOCAL ACTIVITY WITH OUR DRAINAGE DISTRICT. THEY HAVE THE CREW, THEY HAVE THE MEMES, THEY HAVE THE MANDATE. BUT WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT TODAY. SO, I THINK PERSONALLY, WHEN IT COMES TO DRAINAGE, IF ANYBODY ACTS INDIVIDUALLY, YOU ARE ONLY HURTING THE COUNTY. WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, WHY THE STUDY WAS SO IMPORTANT TO BECOME COMPREHENSIVE. I WOULD JUST URGE YOU, A LITTLE THIS MOST PATIENTS, IS GOING TO GIVE US THIS MUCH REWARD. WE ARE SO CLOSE, AS WE START THIS DRAINAGE STUDY, WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME UP, WE ARTY HAVE PROJECTS RIGHT? THE THREE PROJECTS ARE IN OUR COUNTY, AND WILL GET STARTED. BY THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT NUMBER TWO. THE QUESTION IS, ARE THEY GOING TO MAINTAIN? ARE WE GOING NEED TO MEET THAT? THOSE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. MY CONCERN FOR YOU GUYS, IS THAT WE BECOME TOO REACTIONARY. WE SAY WE HAVE A PROBLEM HERE, AND THEN WE START DIGGING, WITHOUT ANY REAL UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS COMING UPSTREAM. MY REQUEST IS, YOU ARE RIGHT, IT NEEDS TO BE CONTEMPLATED AND WE GO TO THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD WITH OUR NEXT GRANTS, IT HAS TO INCLUDE MAINTENANCE. >> YES, AND THE OTHER THINGS AS THESE GOING TO FIVE WATER QUALITY IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE ENVIRONMENT TO OUT THERE AND A GOOD EVALUATION OF THE WATER IN THE PRECONDITIONS IN THE POST- CONDITIONS. TO MAKE SURE YOU BECOME WHAT YOU ARE REALLY GETTING OUT OF THIS. >> I AGREE, THE TRUTH IS THAT YOU KNOW, IF YOU CHASE TOO MANY RABBITS IT WILL GET AWAY. I THINK THAT WITH A STAFF OF TWO, YOU AND ANOTHER ENGINEER, AND YOU'RE THE SUPERVISOR EVERYTHING FROM PICKING UP TIRES TO MOVING FURNITURE, TO MOSQUITOES. QUITE FRANKLY, THAT SHOULD NOT BE YOUR ROLE. EXCEPT WHEN I WOULD SAY A DEPARTMENT HEAD MEETING. IF YOU ARE THE HEAD OF THE STATE, AND YOU WERE TRYING TO CONTROL A THING, THAT IS GREAT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS. BUT I SEE WHAT IS GOING ON, AND YOU ARE INVOLVED WITH EVERYTHING FROM ROLLING APE DEPRESSED, TO INSTALLING A BATHROOM, TO WORKING ON ABA, IT IS TOO DISJOINTED. I'LL AS I SAY IT IS A TON OF MONEY. I AGREE WITH COM. MAREZ, I LIKE THE CONCEPT OF AN ENGINEERING FIRM. WHAT I HAVE BEEN VERY UNHAPPY WITH, AND I HAVE VOCALIZED THIS, IS WE ARE NOT WORKING IN TANDEM TOGETHER. IF YOU WANT TO MANAGE PEOPLE, YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH PEOPLE. YOU HAVE TO WORK REALLY WELL, AND WHEN THE COUNTY JUDGE IS NOT HAPPY, HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THE WHOLE THING, AIN'T NOBODY HAPPY? THAT IS HOW I FEEL, I FEEL LIKE WE CAN GET BACK ON TRACK AND I WANT TO GET BACK ON TRACK. THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST SAY, WE SHARE THE SAME VISION, I DO. WE HAVE GOT MORE COMING DOWN THE PIKE NOT LESS. HENCE YOU ARE CORRECT. >> SO, I HOPE WE CAN WORK ON THIS. [01:10:10] WE WILL DIVE MORE IN THESE JOBS DESCRIPTIONS AND HOW THEY CAN DO THIS. I ACTUALLY HAVE AN IDEA ON HOW TO PAY FOR THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT'S, MANAGERS. I KNOW YOU WILL NOT LIKE IT, BUT I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA. IT IS I GSA. THAT IS HOW YOU PAY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW YOU NEED. YOU HAVE TO CREATE A STREAM OF REVENUE, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THIS MUCH MONEY. I WILL ASK DALE AT THE END OF THIS WEEK, FOR A TOTAL OF ALL THE PERSONAL REQUESTS THAT HAVE COME IN. AND THEY WERE GOING TO GIVE IT TO ME. THEY ALREADY HAVE IT. >> BY THE END OF THE DAY. >> IS GOING TO BE TWICE AS MUCH, JUST PERSONNEL NOT THE REGULAR BUDGET, IS GOING TO BE TWICE AS MUCH AS THE REVENUE CAP WILL BRING IN. AND THAT IS WHY IT IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL THAT WE WORK TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT WHICH OF THESE WOULD MAKE THE MOST DIFFERENCE. AND, SECONDARILY WHICH OF THESE CAN BE FUNDED BY OTHER RESOURCES? IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE AT LEAST UNDERSTAND THAT, IF, I AM GLAD THAT YOU PUT EVERYTHING THAT YOU THINK THAT YOU WANT TO BUILD. BECAUSE, AT LEAST A, AT LEAST THERE IS A VISION. >> ALL RIGHT YOU ON YOUR WAY OUT. >> ALL RIGHT LET'S GO TO EDWARD, WE ARE A LITTLE BIT EARLY. LET ME JUST GOES TO THE KURD, THE COUNTY CLERK TEXT THE MOMENTS AGO AND SHE COULD NOT JOIN US DALE. SO, I DO NOT KNOW IF WE WANT TO, I PREFER TAKING THE EARLY LUNCH BREAK. AND WILL BREAK AT 11:30 A.M. I HAVE A FEW CALLS THAT I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE. I WOULD ASK YOU DURING YOUR LUNCH, TO PLEASE REVIEW THE COUNTY CLERK'S. TERESA WE GOING TO COME BACK ANY TIME WHERE SHE CAN COME BACK AND JOIN US NEXT WEEK OR NO? >> I HAVE A TENTATIVE DATE JULY THE SIXTH. >> WANT TO GIVE HER THAT DAY I WILL REVIEW IT AND DALE CAN PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE LUNCH? WHAT YOU THINK THEY'LL? >> I HAVE THE PERSONNEL AT EVERYBODY'S REQUEST, SO THERE'S A FEW MISUNDERSTANDINGS OF WHAT THE COUNTY CLERK HAS. BUT WE WILL PROVIDE WILL BE PROVIDED SO WE HAVE A LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT IS REQUESTED THERE OR FOR HIS CLASSIFICATIONS. YOU HAVE THAT BY THE END OF THE DAY, THE REST, AS YOU KNOW AS WE GET TO THE PROCESS OF ME AND MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE COURT FOR THIS. THIS IS GOING TO BE CHANGING UP TO THE DAY WE START TALKING OUR HEAVY-DUTY BUDGET DISCUSSIONS IN AUGUST. >> YEAH, EXACTLY. SO, WHERE IT IS SO COUNTY CLERK IS ON TABLET? >> ON DAY ONE. >> OH IT IS OUTBACK IN. >> REMOVED IT IN YOUR NOTEBOOK. >> I KNOW, IT WAS TAB ONE, NUMBER SEVEN. >> IT IS REMOVED FROM YOUR TAB FIVE FOR TODAY. >> OKAY THANK YOU, TAP FIVE FOR TODAY. >> ON THEIR BUCKET IS PAGE 57. >> FOR WHATEVER REASON I WILL LOOK WITH YOU. I CANNOT FIND IT, IT MAY BE I HAVE STILL NOT SUCK IT UP IN THE FRONT. OKAY SO EDWARD WILL BE OUR LAST PRESENTER TODAY IS WHAT I WAS SEEING HIM FOR EDWARD. >> BEFORE LUNCH. >> BEFORE LUNCH FORGIVE ME. >> PAGE 757 YOUR HONOR. >> OKAY WE WILL START WITH THE STADIUM FOREGROUNDS THAT IS 0140, 0141, 0142. AND I JUST WANT TO GET TO THE LAY OF THE LAND THEY WERE. >> I APPRECIATED JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS GOOD MORNING. LONG TIME NO SEE, BUT I HAVE REALLY TRIED TO KEEP UP WITH ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE DONE SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS TIME. JUDGE, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO STAY AT THE COURTHOUSE TODAY. IT SEEMS WORKING REALLY WELL. >> GREAT. >> WE HAVE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE PLACE, HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET THE TARGET POPULATION THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR. >> , WE ARE LIKE THE BLOOD DRIVE, WE ARE LOOKING FOR ARMS. >> WE ARE CONVINCING A LOT OF PEOPLE, WE GOT THERE IS MEDDLE IN THERE ISN'T THERE TODAY? >> NO MEADOW, NOT IN THESE VACCINES. >> IF YOU DON'T WANT US TO TRACK WE WILL HOLD YOUR FOLDING MONEY FOR IT. >> IF THEY WANT TO BE TRACKED, LOSE THIS BABE BECAUSE THIS TRACKS. YES, I APPRECIATE THAT IT WOULD. >> WHAT IS HE TALKING ABOUT EVERYBODY'S WE ARE VACCINATING, YOU CAN GET YOUR FREE LIFESAVING VACCINE DOWNSTAIRS, TROUBLE-FREE [01:15:03] AND PAIN-FREE. ALL IT TAKES IS A FEW MINUTES. SO, IF YOU ARE LISTENING AND YOU HAVE CHILDREN 12-YEARS-OLD AND UP, AS LONG AS YOU AS A PARENT CONSENT, IF YOU ARE LISTENING IN THE COURTHOUSE TODAY, AND YOU HAVE YOUR KIDS, A HOME FROM SUMMER, GO AND GET THEM AT LUNCH AND BRING THEM HERE. TREE THEM TO A GOOD SANDWICH, AND GET THEM A VACCINATION. IT IS SO EASY AND EDWARD THERE IS NO WAY? >> NO WAIT, NO WAY, WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE IN OB REAL QUICK. >> OKAY THANK YOU EDWARD. OKAY WE WILL SET UP 0140. >> 0140 IS THE STADIUM WORKING OUT THERE TRYING TO REPURCHASE STADIUM. THE BUDGET IS $250,756. WE'VE HAD A DECREASE IN THE INSURANCE EXPENSE, SO THAT IS A GOOD THING. WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE GOING TO THAT CONTINGENCY APPROPRIATIONS FOR THAT NEXT YEAR. AGAIN, WE SUFFERED MIGHTILY FROM THE BIG FREEZE, IT KIND OF HURT THE FIELD QUITE A BIT. WE HAD SOME BROKEN WATER LINE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO FIX AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF FIXING THEM NOW. JUST TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE, THE WATER BURGER STADIUM IS GOING THROUGH AT LEAST THREE OR MAYBE FOR REESE OUTINGS THAT MEANS THAT THEY CAME IN, PULLED UP ALL OF THE SOLID, AND THEN REPLACE IT WITH A BRAND-NEW SAW. WE STARTED OPERATIONS IN 2,003, AND WE'VE BEEN EVER TO REPLACE ASAD. WE TRY TO MAINTAIN A COMMENT WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF IT PER ANNUM, BUT NOW IT IS STARTING TO SHOW ITS AGE. SO, THAT IS PROBABLY ONE THING THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE DOING. , WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST IN ITS FROM A LEAGUE THAT PLAYS DURING THE WINTER. THEY WOULD LIKE TO START A LEAGUE THEY'VE BEEN RENTING IT ON AND OFF. SO, THEY CAN GET THE FEEL FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT THEY DO NOT COMPETE WITH HOPES OR ANYONE ELSE BECAUSE IT IS A WINTER LEAGUE. SO, THAT IS PRETTY MUCH 0140, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> NO QUESTIONS, BUT A LONG TIME AGO BEFORE COVID-19, COMMISSIONER COM. MAREZ TALKED ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES FOR STADIUM. WE FORMED A LITTLE COMMITTEE, COVID-19 HAPPEN, THE COMMITTEE NEVER GOT OFF THE GROUND. WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING THAT BACK. THERE IS A LOT OF AWESOME DISCUSSIONS. COMING FROM OUR JUNIOR COLLEGE. AND WE WOULD LIKE EDWARD FOR YOU TO JUST KNOW ABOUT THAT, TO MAYBE OFFER ABOUT THE FIRST TEAM MEETING OUT AT CALDERON IN THE MEETING ROOM? WE CAN GET WITH YOU ON THAT. IT IS VERY EXCITING, ATHLETICS IN JUNIOR COLLEGES CAN MAKE IN ANCHOR TENNANT. IT WOULD STILL EVEN OFFER OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE WINTER LEAGUES. BUT HOW GREAT WOULD BE TO HAVE ANCHOR TENNANT? >> THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. >> THEN WE COULD AFFORD TO DO THE WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO. THAT IS ACTUALLY REAL TALKS AND REAL DISCUSSIONS, BUT IT NEEDS A REAL DIALOGUE. YOU HAVE SOME OF THE ONLINE? >> COMMISSIONER COM. CHESNEY HAS HIS HAND UP. >> SORRY COM. CHESNEY WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT DOCUMENTS. SORRY CONNIE I DID NOT REALIZE YOU WERE LOOKING FOR ME. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YEAH GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT ABOUT THE COMMITTEE JUDGE, I THINK BEFORE WE SPEND ANOTHER DIME ON THE FAIRGROUNDS FIELD, THAT WE REALLY SHOULD ABSOLUTELY RESURRECT THAT COMMITTEE, AND HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT. BECAUSE, I REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE LONG-TERM USE IS, I'VE HEARD ABOUT THE DELMAR SITUATION. I DO NOT SEE THAT HAPPENING, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE JUST GONE THROUGH A LEGISLATIVE SESSION. SO IT IS NOT HAPPENING THIS TIME. THAT COULD BE THREE TO FIVE YEARS. I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT I THINK BEFORE WE SPEND A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY PULLING OUT SOLID AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE REALLY DO RESURRECT THE COMMITTEE THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. AND HAVE THAT MEETING WITH THE COUNTY, I HAVE REAL CONCERNS ABOUT THAT FIELD, AND A VERY LIMITED AMOUNT OF USE IT GETS, I KINDA LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY DAYS A YEAR DOES THAT FEEL GET USED NOW? I DO NOT THINK IT IS A WHOLE LOT, MOST OF THE BASEBALL TEAMS THAT USE IT ALREADY FOUND OTHER FACILITIES OR THEIR OWN FACILITIES AND SO FORTH. I AM REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT CONTINUING TO PUMP MONEY INTO THAT FIELD. I SHARED AN EXPERIENCE WITH EDWARD THAT THEY WERE HAVING A PRE-LEFT GAME OUT THERE. THEY COULD HARDLY EVEN PLAY ON THE FIELD IT WAS IN SUCH POOR CONDITION. SO, I REALLY DO THINK YOU KNOW, IT IS TIME TO DO THAT. I JUST HAVE REAL CONCERNS WE ARE SPENDING MONEY OUT THERE NOT KNOWING WHAT THE HECK WE WOULD DO THIS. IF DELMAR WANTS TO TAKE THAT THING NOW, I DON'T MEAN THAT LITERALLY, I LOVE THE FAIRGROUNDS, IW [01:20:01] BARN, I'VE NEVER BEEN A FAN OF THAT FIELD, AND THAT IS NO DISRESPECT. I LOVE THE FACILITIES AND I LOVE THE LIBRARY OUT THERE, I JUST DO I JUST THINK THERE IS A BETTER WAY I LIKE TO LOOK AT IT. MAYBE WE NEED TO MAKE THAT A BIG RV PARK. I KNOW THAT SOUNDS OUTSIDE THE BOX AND A LITTLE CRAZY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE OF THE FIELD IS AND HOW LONG WE CAN AFFORD AND PUMPING MONEY INTO IT FOR THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF USE THAT CURRENTLY GETS IN OUR COUNTY. >> A LOT TO IMPACT THERE, I THINK WE CAN AGREE ON FUNDAMENTALS. ONE IS THAT THE COMMITTEE SHOULD BE REWARDED. TWO, WE HAVE INTEREST OUT THERE AND WE NEED TO PURSUE THAT INTEREST. THREE, WE DO NOT HAVE TO SPEND ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS UNTIL WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE GOING. THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT, I DO THINK EDWARD, OR EDWARD AND COM. MAREZ, AND COM. CHESNEY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU SERVE ON AN AD HOC COUNTY JUDGE BLUE RIBBON COMMITTEE. I DO THINK THE WORLD OF FESTIVALS, A REALLY BIG RIGHT NOW. COMING OUT OF COVID-19, WE HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF INTERESTING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT IS HOT AND WHAT IS NOT. AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH PEOPLE AND FESTIVALS ARE REALLY BIG. GUESS WHAT WE HAVE? WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE TO HAVE THESE FESTIVALS. WE HAVE MUSIC FESTIVALS THAT YOU REALLY PLAN TO STAGE IN YOU KNOW. SO I THINK THE COMMITTEE WILL NEED TO PRODUCE A LINEUP OF A 12 MONTH LINEUP. SO IT IS BEING USED EVERY MONTH, AND WE NEED TO GO ASK EVERY SINGLE ISD, AND THE ISLANDERS, EVERY SINGLE COMMENT THAT IS A SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT THEY WANT TO USE THIS FIELD. ONCE WE FIGURE OUT A REVENUE COULD BE WE COULD SEE INVESTING IN SOME SOD. WE HAVE BASEBALL USA, AND IF WE CANNOT FIGURE OUT, NOT EVERYBODY HAS THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE RESEARCHER LIKE THAT. THE ONLY REASON I THINK, THAT I WOULD DEPART FROM YOUR THOUGHT, ALTHOUGH, LIKE I SAID I AGREE ON 98% OF IT. IS THAT, YOU CANNOT BUILD THIS STUFF ANYMORE. SO, WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS GUARDING AN ASSET. SO CON -- SO, IT IS KIND OF LIKE SAYING I DON'T WANT TO RIP MY GRASS BECAUSE I'M NOT AT MY HOUSE. WELL THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE DEPENDS ON CURB APPEAL. SO, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE AN ASSET, AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HAVE IT GENERATE DOLLARS FOR US. UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE THE OLD HISTORIC COURTHOUSE, IT DOES, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THESE ASSETS, OTHERWISE WE LOSE WHATEVER IT IS WE HOPE TO GAIN IN THE FUTURE. BUT I HEAR YOU. >> JUDGE, I THINK THAT IS A VERY, VERY VALID ANALOGY. I WOULD ADD ONLY THIS, REPURPOSE SING OF YOUR ASSETS IS ONLY -- IS ALSO A VALUABLE AND VIABLE WAY OF LOOKING AT THIS. THAT IS A VERY VALUABLE PIECE OF LAND, I DO NOT KNOW THAT I THINK IT'S A VALUABLE LAND AS A BASEBALL STADIUM? I AM JUST SAYING, I THINK WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT WHAT COULD WE DO? COULD IT BE A FESTIVAL SITE? COULD IT BE AN RV SITE? COULD IT BE, COULD IT BE, COULD IT BE, I AM JUST SAYING WE SHOULD THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX, AND YES PROTECT THE ASSET AND NOT NECESSARILY THE UP IN THE FORM THAT HAS CURRENTLY SITS IN. AND THAT'S ALL I AM KIND TO TRY OUT RIGHT NOW. HOW CAN WE REPURPOSE THAT, AND MAYBE WE KEEP IT, MAYBE AT THE END OF THE DAY THE DECISION IS TO SAY IS A BASEBALL FIELD, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT EVERYTHING WE CAN BECAUSE ME PERSONALLY, I DO NOT SEE IT AS A LONG-TERM FUTURE AS A BASEBALL FIELD. BUT, I MAY BE WRONG AND I WILL BE THE FIRST TO SAY I'M WRONG IF I AM. >> THESE ARE ALL GOOD CONVERSATIONS, EDWARD IS NODDING. LIKE I SAID, WE ARE OUT OF, I FEEL LIKE WE ARE READY TO DO A PRESS CONFERENCE. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 15 MONTHS WE ARE IN SINGLE DIGITS FOR COVID-19, IS NOT GREAT? THAT'S THE FIRST TIME IN 16 MONTHS, THAT IS A BIG DEAL. SO WE ARE NOT OUT OF COVID-19, BUT WE ARE FEELING LIKE WE ARE ALMOST OUT. I WANT US TO GET BACK TO THESE BIG-TIME CONVERSATIONS. I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER COVID-19 NEEDS TO LEAD THEM. -- I KNOW COM. MAREZ IS TO LEAD THEM. I KNOW YOU NEED TO RUN WITH IT BUT COME OUT WRONG WITH IT WITH EVERTON. I WOULD LIKE TO BE ON IT FROM JUST ON THE STANDPOINT OF I HAVE THESE, PRETTY INTERESTING CONVERSATIONS WITH, THE FESTIVAL FOLKS. THESE ARE FESTIVAL PEOPLE THAT WE WANT, LIKE THE ROUND TOP FOLKS AND THE RODEO FOLKS, AND MY HOPE IS THAT IN NOVEMBER OF [01:25:06] 2022, THAT IS NEXT YEAR RIGHT? IS SO CONFUSING WE LOST SO MANY YEARS. NOVEMBER 2022, WE WILL HOST OUR FIRST COUNTY FAIR AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO COME IN AND YOU KNOW, RENT OUR SPACE, AND DO THESE GREAT EVENTS. AND IT COULD JUMPSTART SOMETHING. >> ALONG THOSE LINES JUDGE, SOME PEOPLE HAVE COME UP WITH TOP IT ALL. >> YET TOPPED OFF HIS COOL. >> BUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO, WE NEED TO REMEMBER WE NEED TO KEEP, WE PUT THE BATHROOMS AND FACILITIES INTO BACK INTO OPERATION WITH THEM. THEY ARE CONTRACTED WITH MOBILE SHOWERS WITH MOBILE SHOWERS FELL THROUGH. SO WE MOVE THEM INTO THAT AREA. WE'VE HAD PACKETS OF 30 BUSES, WITH 20 OFFICES USING THOSE BATHROOMS AND SHOWERS. TO REST AND RECUPERATE, SO THERE IS SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO KEEP. >> HATE YOU JUST GIVE ME A HELL OF AN IDEA OR EDWARD, I DID NOT KNOW THAT ON TITO. I AM GOING TO GET THOSE DOLLARS BACK. THA JUDGE, REAL QUICK, SINCE WE'RE TALKING BASEBALL, BOTTOM OF THE FIFTH, LONDON AND THE STATE SEMIFINAL GAME IS UP 7-2. >> 0 MY GOSH. >> SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSED SINCE WERE TALKING BASEBALL. >> THEY'RE GONNA WILL WIN IT. >> CORPUS CHRISTI AND NUECES COUNTY COUNTY IS STILL IN BASEBALL. JUST A LITTLE UPDATE. >> KNOW THAT IS AWESOME. >> IS THE BOTTOM OF THE FIFTH. >> THEY GOING TO WIN IT ALL I CAN FEEL IT. WE NEED SOME GOOD FEELING HERE. SO, EDWARD, IT LOOKS LIKE WE UNDERSTAND WITH THE SAME SITUATION IS, ONE THING THAT COULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO US I WOULD, IN ALL OF YOUR SPARE TIME, IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS FOR 2021. IT IS REALLY A CARRYOVER FROM 2019. THE ONE THING I WAS WORRIED ABOUT ABOUT THOSE TRANSFORMERS FOR THE LIGHT, COULD YOU GET US A STATUS UPDATE AND I PROMISE I WILL LET YOU GO TO THE NEXT FUN. >> ALL THE TRANSFORMERS ARE REPAIRED AND REPLACED AND THEY ARE OPERATIONAL. RIGHT NOW, KNOCK ON WOOD, NO PROBLEMS. >> KNOCK ON WOOD, OKAY. >> EXCUSE ME EDWARD, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF UTILIZING THAT FAIRGROUNDS OR THE BASEBALL FIELD FOR AN OUTSIDE CONCERT? I MEAN, IT HAS THE LIGHTING IN THE SEATING AND IT HAS A LOT OF SPACE AND A SNACK BAR. >> YES, THE ONLY THING COMMISSIONER THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO, IS WE DO NOT LIKE TO COMPETE AGAINST THE FAIRGROUNDS ITSELF. THAT WAS ONE OF THE DEALS AND THAT WAS A BIG ISSUE. NOW THAT WE ARE CHANGING MODES, AND NOW THAT IS POSSIBLE, I WOULD LIKE THAT RUN THAT THROUGH THE SPECTRA, AND USE WHOEVER THE NEW,. >> RIGHT WHOEVER WINS THE RFP? >> GIVE THAT TO THEM AS AN ADDITIONAL THING SO THEY CAN OPERATE IT AT THE TIME WE HAD GIVEN IT TO SPECTRA. SO THEY COULD TRY TO SELL THE STADIUM. THEY COULD NOT GET, MOST PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT TAKES TO RUN A BASEBALL TEAM. SO YOU GET TO CHANGE OF QUALITY TEAMS, UNLESS THEY ARE CAL ISLAND OR MOODY. THOSE TEAMS ARE THE EXCEPTION. BUT IF YOU HAVE OTHER TEAMS, AND THEY CAME TO PLAY THERE, THEY ONLY BRING MAYBE 300 PEOPLE. NOW YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR CONCESSIONS, THE PEOPLE ON THE PARKING THE CAR IS. YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR TICKET TAKERS. >> THE ECONOMICS DID NOT WORK. >> IT DOESN'T WORK IT'S A LOSS. >> IS ALSO TALKING BASEBALL WE COULD TALK ABOUT THE CONCERT THING HAPPENING. MAYBE WE CAN DO SOMETHING WHEN WE DON'T COMPETE WITH SPECTRA. >> THAT IS PART OF THE GOOD NEGOTIATIONS THAT WE CAN INCLUDE. EVEN WHEN SPECTRA COMES IN, WE NEED SO MANY CONCERTS IN THAT FACILITY. BUT, THE ONLY THING WITH THAT, AS THE JUDGES SAY, THERE IS PERFORMANCE THAT NEED TO BE MADE. THE SOUND SYSTEM WAS NOT DESIGNED TO THAT, THE TRANSFORMER IS ABOUT 320 FEET TO THE SOUTH. WE NEED TO BRING SOME, WE HAVE DONE BEFORE, BUT WE NEED, IT IS DOABLE BUT IS GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE MORE EFFORT TO DO. BUT IS A GOOD IDEA. >> THE CONCERT, THE FESTIVAL WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE CONCERTS. DEFINITELY. THAT IS SORT OF THE CONCEPT. THAT IS ALSO THE CONCEPT OF THE AMPHITHEATER. IT IS ABOUT DRIVING PEOPLE TO A LOCALE. ONCE THEY REALIZE THAT THAT IS A GREAT PLACE AND FUN PLACE TO BE FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILY ON A REGULAR BASIS. OUR PROBLEM IS WE DO NOT HAVE CONSISTENCY. LET'S TAKE THE MARQUEE, THAT BEAUTIFUL MARQUEE IS UP NOW. NOW WE CAN ADVERTISE ALL UP AND DOWN THE HIGHWAY. THAT TOOK HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, AND TOOK A GRAND, AND TOOK A LOT OF WORK. BUT NOW THAT IS OUT. [01:30:02] SO THERE IS SOME GOOD THINGS HAPPENING OUT THERE. BUT IT MEANS THE COMMITTEE WORKING WITH THE AND CDC, THE ROB SOUND EFFECT AREA DEVELOPMENT. THERE IS A LOT OF COMPONENTS OUT THERE. THE CITY OF ROB'S TOWN, BUT WITH THE OUTLET MALLS UNDER NEW OWNERSHIP, WITH THE FAIRGROUNDS UNDER NEW MAINTENANCE, AND THE TIME IS RIGHT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REPURPOSE OR REJUVENATE. ONE THING IS FOR CERTAIN, YOU CANNOT KEEP GOING THE WAY YOU'RE GOING AND EXPECT ANYTHING BUT A LOSS. I THINK THAT WAY IS THE COMMISSIONER IS SAYING, AND WE ARE ACKNOWLEDGING. YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE NEW IDEAS, THE OTHER THING IS THAT, JUST BRINGING IN THE AGENCY EXTENSION SERVICE. THEY ARE CRITICAL, THEY ARE GREAT USES OF THE FAIRGROUNDS FACILITIES. JUST TO PUT A BOW ON IT AT WORK, I AM STILL WORKING ON THE ARCHERY KIDS. I WANT THOSE ARCHERY KIDS TO HAVE A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN PRACTICE. ARCHERY IS THERE EVERY SINGLE WEEK. DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR GUESS WHAT YOU CAN HAVE? YOU CAN HAVE FOOD TRUCKS, THAT BRINGS BUSINESS, THAT BRINGS DRINKS. YOU CAN START HAVING COMPETITIONS, SAME THING WITH THE TRAP SHOOT, THERE IS SO MANY DO SO MANY THINGS TO DO IF YOU HAVE AN OPERATOR. YOU HAVE A CONSTANT STREAM OF SUCCESS. THE OPERATOR BRINGS DIFFICULTY TWO. SO WHEN WE DO OUR CONTRACT WE WILL BE VERY SPECIFIC OF OUR USE OF THE FACILITY. OTHER THAN EMERGENCIES. WE SEE THAT NOW. >> OKAY I WOULD GO ON TO YOUR NEXT. >> THE NEXT 10141, WHICH IS THAT FAIRGROUNDS AND THE ACTUAL SHOW BARN. SO IN THIS ONE WE ARE NOT INCLUDED ON HERE IS CONTRACT SERVICES 5410. WE ARE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL $20,000. ACTUALITY IS ONLY NEW MONEY. THE OTHER 10,000 IS COMING FROM REALIGNMENT OF SOME OF THESE LINE ITEMS. SO THAT HASN'T BEEN IT IS NOT IN YOUR THE ONE YOU HAVE HERE. IT IS A REQUEST THAT WE ARE MAKING. THAT WILL BRING THE 852870 ON 5410. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THERE IS THE EQUIPMENT IS GETTING OLDER. THE STUFF IS GETTING OLDER AND THE AIR-CONDITIONERS AND EVEN KNOW WE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS WITH A VM. THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED ON THAT THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF IN THE FUTURE. A LOT OF THE SMALL UNITS. >> ON 041, IT SHOWS YOU WHAT GOING DOWN. >> JOHN ON THE SCREEN YOU WILL SEE THE NARRATIVE REPORT OF THE NARRATIVE WHEN THE ACTION NUMBERS ON THE SCREEN. SERIOUSLY NARRATIVE ON THE SCREEN. >> SO EDWARD LET'S TALK ABOUT THESE SOME OF THESE THE COURT'S THOUGHT ABOUT PRIOR TO HER PRESSURIZATION IN 2021. CAN YOU GO THROUGH THEM AGAIN? SO THE GLOBAL BUDGET 870 DALE? HOW DOES THE BREAKDOWN? >> THIS IS THE MONEY WOULD PAY FOR WHAT WE GET THE ALLOCATION AND PUT TOGETHER THE STEP. >> OH, THAT IS THE WHOLE BUDGET? I GOT UP. >> WHAT GLOBAL ONLY? >> WERE TALKING ABOUT GLOBAL SPECTRA. >> IS A 20K ENTRIES FOR THE CONTRACT SERVICES TO GLOBAL, AND WE ARE ALLOCATING 10K FROM BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS AND CONTINGENCIES SO THAT WOULD ONLY BE AT A 10,000 INCREASE. >> THESE NUMBERS WE ADDED ONCE WE START PUTTING THE NUMBERS TOGETHER FOR SUBMISSION OF THE REQUEST. >> SO GO BACK AT WHERE YOU WE ARE MISSING ON THERE. YOU KNOW WHAT IS NOT IN GOOD SHAPE ARE THE DOORS TO THE PENS. THEY ARE REALLY RUSTING AND OLD. >> YES, WELL WE PURCHASE SOME ADDITIONAL ONES. >> WE TALKED ABOUT OUR FEES THIS YEAR. CAN WE GET A STATUS ON THE RVS FESTIVAL. LET'S SAY WE HAD AN AWESOME FESTIVAL COULD EVERYBODY GO IN THERE AND HAVE POWER. >> RIGHT NOW THEY ARE WORKING ON THE DECK, AND THE PARKING LOT I CALL IT THE DECK. THE PARKING LOT, WE WIN IN THERE AND WE FIX ALL THE BROKEN LINE RIGHT NOW 95% ARE UP AND [01:35:05] OPERATIONAL. DOES A FEW THAT WE NEED TO FINISH OFF AND THAT IS MORE ELECTRICAL THAN WATER DRIVEN. OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM IS WATER. WHEN THEY HAVE THE RODEO. >> THEY WERE FULL, NO YOU ARE RIGHT. >> THEY WERE COMPLETELY FULL. THIS YEAR WAS AN ANOMALY SHARE, BECAUSE WE HAD TO DANCE AROUND AND DOING VACCINES AND PREP AT THAT TIME. TO DANCE AROUND THOSE, THE HORSE TRAILERS AND EVERYTHING IT WORKED OUT REALLY WELL AND JASON WAS REALLY HAPPY. AND WE DID PRETTY GOOD ON THAT. >> SO AGAIN I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT I UNDERSTAND. AND IT SHOWS BASICALLY STUDY YOU WILL GO TO SUPPLEMENT ME WITH THAT ON THE SCREEN. >> THERE IS NO BUDGET IMPACT. >> NO BUDGET IMPACT, THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR. >> THIS IS A GOOD CHANCE TO CLARIFY THESE OTHER REQUESTS AS THE DEPARTMENTS AND JAPAN. THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT INFORMATION THAT IS BEEN ENTERED INCORRECTLY. IT HAS NOT BEEN REVISED. IT WILL BE REVISED BUT IT JUST NOT HAS BEEN IN THE PRESENTATION YOU ARE SEEING. >> OKAY, GOOD. >> JUDGE ONE OF THE LITTLE FACT, THIS IS MOSTLY AN ESTIMATE, JASON GREEN AS PART OF THE GREENLAND TECH WILL GIVE US A FINALIZED BUDGET FROM SPECTRA I THINK IN JULY. THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. JASON DEVELOPS IT AND HE TAKES IT UP TO KELLER AND THEN KELLER TALKED ABOUT IT WITH MANAGEMENT AND THEY BRING IT BACK TO. >> I THINK WE SHOULD COME UP WITH ONE PAGER HIGHLIGHTS OF ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT FAIRGROUNDS OF COME UP AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE TO MAKE THE FAIRGROUNDS GREAT. FROM THE ROOF, TO THE PARKING LOT, TO THE KITCHEN TO THE PARKING TRACK, YOU KNOW JUST BULLETS, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE THAT THERE IS A BALANCING ACT HERE. WHAT THE FERMIS TO THE COAST IS WITH THE FAIRGROUNDS ME TO THE WEST. THIS SHOULD BE A ONE PAGER THAT WE CAN SHOWCASE AND WE WANT TO JUST HIGHLIGHT WHY THERE ARE SO MANY GOOD THINGS THERE. >> I AGREE, BECAUSE A STORING HURRICANE SUPPLIES AND GENERATORS, NOT ONLY STORING, BUT THEY ARE USING IT AS A CENTRAL.RIGHT NOW TO DELIVER WATER TO DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. >> MRAS, EVERYTHING. >> EMMA REASON EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW. >> IT'S ALMOST TO NAME ONE OF THOSE BARS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. BECAUSE OF SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE EMERGENCY. I DON'T THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW VALUABLE IT IS IN THE EVACUATION PROCESS BUT JUST IN THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROCESS. WE WILL BE VACCINATING LIKE THIS FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS. >> SO, ANOTHER THING ROB'S TOWN EMS IS USING IT TO TRAIN PERSONNEL. SO THEY HAVE THIS ESPECIALLY FITTED AMBULANCE, THAT THEY BRING IN, IT IS REALLY NEAT JUDGE. YOU SIT OUTSIDE, YOU PROGRAM THE COMPUTER, AT ALL AT THE CORRECT TERM IS, I CALL IT A DUMMY BUT IT IS AN ANIME TRAUMA DEAL. IT WILL GIVE BIRTH, TO TELL YOU THAT, SO THE EMS PEOPLE GO IN AND THEY LOOK AT. >> WELL IS THERE SCREAMING ABOUT? >> THERE IS ACTUALLY SCREAMING INVOLVED. >> I WILL LET YOU KNOW IF IT'S REAL OR NOT. >> IS AN ACTUAL BABY COMING OUT IT BREACHES AND IT IS AWESOME. BUT THEY NEEDED A COVERED PLACE WHERE THEY COULD DO IT. SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE HOUSING 280 SOLDIERS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. >> LIKE THE BATTALION, PEOPLE JUST FORGET, PEOPLE JUST FORGET AND YOU AND I COULD RATTLE IT OFF AND TRY TO CREATE THAT SIDE. I THINK FOR THE STATE OF THE COUNTY PARTICULAR, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT SLIDE. I WANT TO SEE PEOPLE SEE THAT [01:40:03] IMPACT. SO WHATEVER YOU THINK YOU WE ARE MISSING UNDER THE ABM CONTRACT, IT NEEDS TO BE IN THAT FUTURE NEEDS CATEGORY. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, SO IF IRT CAN HANDLE THEM, WE WOULD LIKE TO PICK THAT REQUEST. >> OKAY JUST. >> SO HOW DOES THAT LOOK FOR ARE YOU DONE WITH ALL OF THOSE? >> YES. >> OKAY SO WE CAN MOVE TO NUMBER 170. >> 175 IS THE PAGE. YOU WILL GOOD EDWARD. >> IT SAYS WE SHOULD RENAME HIS APARTMENT, WE ARE GENERALLY A SWISS ARMY KNIFE. WE DO PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU ASK AS A COURT. >> I LIKE THAT METAPHOR. I REALLY DO. >> BECAUSE WE DO CLEANUPS, TIRE COLLECTION, WE DO VACCINES, WE DO TESTING, AND EMERGENCY EVACUATIONS, WE DO HEAT AND COOLING SHELTERS. SO, I MEAN, WHATEVER YOU ALL ASK WE DO. TOO THAT END, THIS YEAR IT WAS AN ANOMALOUS YEAR, WE HAD LIKE $60,000 OF OVERTIME THAT WE DID NOT PLAN ON. SO, WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT YEAR. WE DO NOT KNOW IF YOU WERE GOING TO LIKE YOU SAID JUDGE VACCINATE FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS? OR ARE WE GOING TO. >> I JUST WANT TO PUT EVERYBODY ON NOTICE, EVERYBODY AT THE CITY WANTS TO STEAL EDWARD, I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW YOU CANNOT HAVE THEM. SORRY IT WERE, BUT EVERYBODY, LITERALLY THINKS THAT EDWARD BELONGS TO THEM. AND THAT IS BECAUSE, WHEN SOMEBODY IS SO VALUED, THAT IS HOW THEY FEEL. I HAVE WEIGEL, BECAUSE WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER, AND THE CITY, COUNTY, PUBLIC HEALTH BUT YOU ARE SO WHITE. W00T WERE NOT BEING SMART ENOUGH AND PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE. WE HAVE AN 18 MILLIE DOLLAR GRANT DALE, WE HAD -- WE HAVE AN 18 MILLION-DOLLAR GRANT DALE, I AM JUST ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT THOSE DOLLARS CAN DO FOR US PERSONNEL. WHERE ALREADY ENTITLED TO APPLY FOR MORE. THEY HAVE TOLD US THAT IF WE ARE NOT HIRING PEOPLE, WE ARE NOW USING THAT MONEY PROPERLY. THE ONLY THING I WOULD I HAVE TO ASK YOU, IS THAT, THERE NEEDS TO BE RECOGNITION THAT THAT MONEY MIGHT GO AWAY. SO, IF WE HIRE PEOPLE, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE HIRING THEM ALL WERE BUYING STUFF, EITHER ONE, BUT IT COULD BE FOR A FIXED THREE YEAR PERIOD. >> FOR TIME. YES. >> THAT IS THE ONE THING WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE, IF YOU DO NOT USE IT YOU LOSE IT. THAT $18 MILLION, TO MY GUESSTIMATE DALE, THEY HAVE NOT HIRED ONE PERSON. I AM SO UPSET ABOUT THAT. BECAUSE, THAT IS GOING TO HURT US IN GETTING MORE MONEY. AND 2ND BALL, I BELIEVE THEY HAVE NOT DONE IT, BECAUSE THERE IS REALLY SUCH A DISCONNECT BETWEEN VACCINES, AND NOT WANTING TO THINK ABOUT THE WORSE. WHICH IS ANOTHER VARIANCE OR ANOTHER VIRUS OR THAT SORT OF THING. WE REALLY NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE GOING TO USE THESE DOLLARS. I DON'T KNOW HOW THESE THINGS, EDWARD IS IF YOU ARE SAYING THAT, WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS, IF THAT HAS A COMPONENT TO VACCINATIONS, I THINK I CAN HELP WITH MY 18 MILLION. IF YOU DON'T MIND, SEPARATE FORCE. >> THE ONLY THING WE DON'T UNDERSTAND IS IS STILL RUNNING TESTING SITES. PEOPLE ARE STILL GETTING TESTED, THEY ARE GETTING EVERY OTHER DAY. IT IS MONDAY, WEDNESDAYS, AND FRIDAYS BEING TESTED. PEOPLE FIND THAT ASSURING, THAT THAT THERE IS A PLACE THAT THEY CAN GO, AND GET TEST IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME. IT IS A GOOD FEELING. SOME PEOPLE GET TESTED PRIOR TO GOING, AND TO NURSING HOMES AND SOME OF THE LOCATIONS EVEN IF THEY HAVE THE SHOUT THEY STILL GET TESTED. IT IS ONE OF THOSE TYPE OF DEALS. AND EVEN COME -- AND EVEN, SOMETIMES YOU GET A SHOT IS 95% YOU WON'T GET SIX. >> RIGHT WE HAVE BREAKERS. >> STATUS ON THE PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND. ANOTHER THING WE ARE REQUESTING IN THE BUDGET, WE KNOW WE ARE THE OPERATIONS DURING EMERGENCIES AND DURING THAT PERIOD SO I AM ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF RENUMERATION FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, THAT DO THESE THINGS. WHEN THE FIRST COAT CAME OUT, IT WAS DIFFICULT BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS AFRAID. WHY AM I GOING TO GO WORK OVER THERE WHEN I'M GOING TO GET THE [01:45:03] DISEASE? YOU KNOW, IT WAS, AT THE BEGINNING IT WAS ONE OF THOSE YOU ARE DRIVING THE HELICOPTER THAT YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET RADIOACTIVE POISON, BUT YOU'RE DOING FOR THE PEOPLE. >> YES. >> AND THAT'S THE WAY THE EMPLOYEES LOOKED AT IT, WE ARE DOING FOR THE PEOPLE AND WE MIGHT GET SICK. WE WERE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT IT, MOST OF OUR PEOPLE DID NOT GET SICK EXCEPT WHEN THEY WENT HOME, AND THEIR WIVES ARE, HUSBANDS OF SIGNIFICANT OTHERS VISITED PEOPLE AND GOT IT FROM THERE. THAT WAS THE BIGGEST THING FOR US. ANOTHER THING THAT I DO NOT HAVE ANY HERE, BUT I SHOULD HAVE PUT IN HERE, WAS ONE OF OUR GOOD EMPLOYEE SYLVESTER. HE'S DONE A LOT OF WORK AND IT'S GOT A LOT OF SKILLS. IT IS A LOT OF SKILLS THAT HE HAS THAT BRINGS AND HELPS SAVES US MONEY. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. WE DO HAVE A PROPOSED INSURANCE ALLOCATION, THAT IS NOT IN LINE, IT IS ONE OF THOSE DEALS FROM THE PUBLIC AUDITOR'S OFFICE. WE HAVE A CONTRACTUAL INCREASE IN COPIERS THAT IS ANOTHER THING THAT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER. WE ARE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT, WE HAVE ABOUT 20 OR 30 MOWERS, AND WE HAVE 28 FACILITIES AND THAT WE CUT AND MAINTAIN. THERE ARE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND PARKS, SO THESE WILL REPLACE SOME OF THOSE EXISTING UNITS. WE ARE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER GATOR TO HELP THOSE EFFORTS OUT THERE. WE ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR OFFICE EQUIPMENT, WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR OVER, I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR ALMOST 34 YEARS. WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE GOT BACK IN THE DAY AND THOSE ARE JUST SIMPLE PLACEMENTS. NOW, WE ARE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL MONEY OR ADDITIONAL PROJECTS AS WE CALL THEM, WE ARE LOOKING EVEN KNOW WE ARE LOOKING FOR A MILLION DOLLARS FOR HAZEL BAY ALONE. IT IS MORE FOR ADDITIONAL PROJECTS. WE WANT TO PROVIDE A NEW PAVILION, SUMMED UP IN THE TABLES, AND IN THE PARK WE WANT TO COVER THE BASKETBALL COURT OR GOT SOME SEMBLANCE OF A COVER THERE. WE ARE LOOKING AT REPLACING. >> THEY ARE ALSO AWESOME, CAN YOU JUST TELL ME REAL QUICK CAN YOU GO BACK TO BISHOP. I WHAT WAS IN BISHOP? >> AND BISHOP,. >> 0 NO YOU STARTED WITH À LA LOOSE. >> WE ARE LOOKING AT A NEW FILION. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THERE. IT IS A SMALL COMMUNITY, IS A BEAUTIFUL LITTLE PARK. >> WHAT YOU THINK WOULD DO IT? >> IN THAT SCENARIO, PROBABLY ABOUT $20,000. >> TO DO ALL THAT? >> 0 MY GOSH OVER THAT IS EASY. >> WE GOT TO TAKE A RELIEF ACT FUN AND TRANSLATE INTO ALL THESE COMMUNITIES. THAT'S WHAT THESE DOLLARS ARE FOR. THAT WOULD BE EXCITING TO DO THAT. I WANT TO PUT RENEWABLES EVERYWHERE IF WE CAN. WE CANNOT AFFORD THE LIGHTS, BUT IF YOU SOLO WE COULD. >> , IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT THESE SOLAR LIGHTS. >> I WAS JUST TELLING COM. MAREZ THAT IS REALLY VERY LOW BUDGET TO GET ALL PAVILION, PICNIC TABLES, WHERE IS THAT? >> THAT ISN'T VALID TO SAY. >> 0 OKAY. >> A GOOD EXAMPLE WHERE WE HAVE DONE THAT, IS AN COMMISSIONER MARRIAGES AREA. RIGHT NEAR THE FAIRGROUNDS. WE HAVE REAL NICE WALKING TRAILS FROM OUR PART. THE WALKING TRAIL WAS BUILT TO BE ADDRESSED OVER. IT IS GRASSED OVER NOW, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO DO, IS ACTUALLY PAVE IT. BUT, RIGHT DEAR, YOU HAVE SEATING AREAS WITH SOLAR LIGHTS, WHERE IT IS AROUND THE POND. WERE WALKING TRAILS OVER HOW WOULD YOU SAY? THERE WERE RELIEF PONDS. THERE WERE OUR DRAINAGE SYSTEMS. IT IS A BETTER WAY AND IS A NATURAL HABITAT DRAINAGE SYSTEM. SO, IF YOU GO OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, THERE IS ONE LINE -- ONE MAIN POND THAT IS ALWAYS FULL. THE FAIRGROUNDS ARE ON A CLOSED LOOP, SO THAT WIRE HYDRANT CAPS ON LET'S SAY AT 5:00 A.M., AND IT DRAINS ALL OF THESE GALLONS OF WATER, AND THAT FEEDS INTO THE POND. SO AS THE POND FAILS, IT STARTS FILLING OTHER LITTLE PONDS. THIS IS BOTH SAVES US FROM WHAT I SAY? IT IS REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF E. COLI. IT'S THE REASON WHY WAS DESIGNED TO ASSIST REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF E. COLI. FROM THE FAIRGROUNDS ITSELF, SO THE WASH RACKS AND EVERYTHING, [01:50:02] WHEN YOU WASH AN ANIMAL, EVERYTHING GOES IN THE DRAIN. IT GOES INTO THE POND, SETTLES OUT, THEN HE GOES INTO SMALLER FONTS, THAT ALLOW US TO RADIATION TO KILL EVERYTHING. WE TESTED EVERY ONCE A WHILE. AND THEN IT DUMPS INTO THE OZONE. SO, THIS WAS ALL DESIGN THAT WOULD BE THE TWO PROCESSES. BUT THEN, IT WAS ALSO DESIGNED AS A FLOOD MITIGATION TWO, WHICH IS THE WATER CAME OFF, THE NEW RELATIVELY NEW STRIP MALL OVER THERE. IT COLLECTS IN THE SAME AREA. >> DO YOU MEAN THE LMO? >> THE LMO, IT FEELS THE ADDITIONAL PONDS SO WE USE THIS AS A CASTRATION AS WELL. >> THOSE HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME? >> A LONG TIME. >> THEY'RE DOING GREAT? >> IS STILL DOING GREAT. THE ONLY THING I SAID AS WE NEED TO PAINT THOSE ERRORS INSTEAD OF LEAVING THEM NATURAL. >> YES THAT IS NICE. >> SO, THAT IS ONE OF THE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED. IT IS BOTH FLOOD MITIGATION AND CLEANSING OF THE WATER, FOR A SETTLING POND. AND, IT SERVES FOR A NICE FEATURE FOR A CAMPGROUND. >> VERY NICE. >> IF YOU WANT I'LL GO THROUGH THE WHOLE LITANY, OR I CAN E-MAIL EACH ONE OF YOU THE LIST OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE FOR EACH AND EVERY PART THAT WE HAVE. >> I LIKE THAT, AGAIN, I DO NOT KNOW ENOUGH YET. WE ARE STILL ALL WAITING, BUT OUR HOPE IS, THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE DOLLARS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THIS TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE. I JUST SAW IN THE FEED, THEY LOOKS LIKE CONGRESS HAS REACHED A BIPARTISAN TENTATIVE AGREEMENT ON INFRASTRUCTURE. SO, LET'S SEE WHAT THAT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE? BUT MY EXPECTATION IS THAT GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, SO I WANT YOU TO THINK GREEN. WHAT, I MEAN, BY THAT IS THINK EVERYTHING SOLAR, SOLAR PUMPS, FOR WATER PONDS. THINK EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN FOR RENEWABLE COMPONENTS ELECTRIC, YOU KNOW TYPE OF MOTORS. >> SOLAR WATER CATCH BASINS. >> YEAH, ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH GARDENING, COMPOSTING, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO HAVE BUCKETS OF DOLLARS TO BE ABLE TO INVEST IN. >> WELL, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE MOUNTAINS OF MULCH THAT WE COULD COMPOST. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. WITH COM. HERNANDEZ WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY IN ONE OF OUR PARTS, WHICH WOULD ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE FLOODING BE BY CREATING A CATCHMENT FEATURE. THAT IS, IT SLOWS DOWN THE WATER SO IT DOESN'T FLOAT THE REST THE COMMUNITY. SO, IT IS A NEAT PROJECT, AND THAT IS AS GREEN AS YOU CAN GET. WHERE, IT WILL BE CREATIVE WETLANDS AND ALSO SERVE AS, MOST PEOPLE THINK IT IS BEAUTIFUL WEAPONS. NO, IT IS A DRAINAGE STRUCTURE FOR US. >> YES THOSE BIO SWELLS ARE REALLY COOL TOO. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. YES, THAT IS GREAT, COMMISSIONERS WOULDN'T YOU LIKE A LISTING OF THAT? I THINK THAT IS A GOOD THING ASSENT. >> I WOULD. >> I KNOW WE HAVE SOME OLD CEOS FROM 2015, EACH PROCEEDING HAS FUNDS AVAILABLE THAT DEFINITE CAN BE USED FOR THIS. >> YES, YOU WANT TO COME OUT OF THIS UNDERSTANDING HOW THE WORD IS DIFFERENT. YOU NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT. THESE PAVILIONS, AND THESE COMMUNITY PARKS ARE EVERYTHING TO THESE COMMUNITIES. >> THAT IS THE DEAL JUDGE. I CAN UNDERSTAND NOT HITTING THE COASTAL PARTS OR ANYTHING. THEY HAVE A REVENUE SOURCE THAT WE DO NOT. >> RIGHT. >> WE ARE JUST FOR THE COMMUNITY AND IT'S NOT RIGHT FOR US, WE COULD JUST DO THE STICKER PROGRAM. WE COULD TAKE IT TO COURT AND PUT ON THE VOTING THIS FALL. AND SAY OKAY DO YOU WANT TO VOTE THE TAX ON YOURSELF. FROM SAN ANTONIO. YOU MAY COME AND PLAY ONE OF THE BASEBALL PARKS WHO ENJOY A SMALL PICNIC THERE IN THE COMMUNITY. THESE ARE FOR THE PEOPLE. >> THOSE PEOPLE ARE CHANGING OUR WORLD, EVERY TIME I THINK ABOUT HELPING THEM, I THINK OF LIKE HOWARD, WHO OWNS OUR ENERGY. HE EMPLOYS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, IT HAS A HUGE IMPACT IN OUR OWN BACKYARD, AND HE IS A HOMETOWN HERO. I THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE OTHER WAYS, THAT DIFFERENT ENTREPRENEURS HAVE STARTED IN SMALL TOWNS. SO YEAH, I THINK THAT IS GREAT. [01:55:07] SO EDWARD, THE CRUX OF YOUR PERSONNEL SEEMS TO BE MILD. IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF FREE CLASSES, BUT A TOTAL ALLOVER EFFECT OF $20,000? DO YOU WANT TO GO OVER THAT BRIEFLY? >> ESSENTIALLY LIKE I SAID WERE TRYING TO GET THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY. WE ARE DOING THESE EMERGENCY DEALS, THAT IS JUST TO START. WE DID NOT KNOW WHAT THE VALUE IS? I KNOW A COMMISSION SAID ONE TIME, MAYBE A STIPEND OR SOMETHING? THIS IS FOR ALL YOUR EMPLOYEES, THAT GO OUT AND THEY ARE THERE AT A COOLING CENTER, THEY ARE GOING TO BE THERE FOR 24 HOURS. OR A WARMING CENTER, THE WOMAN SENDS A BETTER IDEA. BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE 0 DEGREES AT 12 MIDNIGHT, AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE PERSONNEL THERE, BECAUSE WE RUNNING A WARMING SHELTER. OR A COOL SHELTER THERE WILL BE THERE TO EIGHT OR 9:00 P.M. UNTIL THE HEAT LEVEL COMES DOWN TO WHERE YOU KNOW IT IS REASONABLE THAT YOU CAN GO HOME AND STAY IN THE HEAT AT HOME. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS, EVERY DAY WITH EXCEPTION OF TODAY WE ARE SOMEWHERE OUT UNTIL 6:00 P.M. IN THE HEAT. I HAVE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE PEOPLE FOR WHICH IT THUS THEY ARE CONSCIENTIOUS AND COWORKERS. YOU KNOW, IT IS 150 DEGREES OUT, AND THEY ARE IN A PARKING LOT, THE HEAT IS JUST COMING UP OFF THE PARKING LOT. YES WE PUT UP TENTS AND WE WERE TRYING TO PUT SWAMP COOLERS OUT THERE TO KEEP EVERYBODY COOL. BUT, IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE DOING ABOVE AND BEYOND OF WHAT, THEY ARE NOT CUTTING GRASS. THEY ARE OUT THERE DOING THESE THINGS. WE ARE HITTING, IN MOST CASES, THE MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION OF THE PEOPLE THAT CANNOT DRIVE TO THE MALL OR DRIVE TO ANYWAY. THEY ARE WALKING TO OUR LOCATIONS TO GET A LITTLE WALK INS AND TRANSIENTS. WE GET A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT, WHO ARE NOT THERE THE NEXT 21 DAYS, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET THEIR SECOND CHILD, BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S AT. >> YEAH, I WILL SAY THAT YOU KNOW WE TALK ABOUT UNFUNDED MANDATES EVERYWHERE. THIS IS AN UNFUNDED MANDATE. YOU ARE THE TEAM THAT HELPS US MAKE THAT HAPPEN. IN THE RURAL AREAS. BUT, I AM STARTING TO GET CONCERNED ABOUT OUR PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE. NAMELY THE OLDEST TO OUR COURTHOUSE. THE INTENSITY HAS ERUPTED VERY CLOSE BY THERE. WE HAVE IN PATIENTS OR SPEAK, OF OUR OLDEST WORK COURTHOUSE. I AM THINKING THAT, WHO IS REALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE IN THE CARE OF THE PLACE? BECAUSE, IT FEELS LIKE A PART TO ME. I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO GO IN AND ONCE AND FOR ALL, BOARD UP UNIFORMLY, LITERALLY EVERY BOARD NEEDS TO LOOK THE SAME. WE NEED TO GET WHOEVER IS IN THEIR OUTAGE. AND THEN WE NEED TO BOARD UP, AND THEN USE TEMPORARY ELECTRICITY, TEMPORARY POWER, WHEN WE DO NEED TO SHOWCASE IN DECEMBER WHEN WE WON OUR RFQ APPROACH. I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT IS IN THIS BUDGET CYCLE, BUT WE MIGHT AS WELL THINK ABOUT YOU KNOW, ABOUT THAT. THAT GOES INTO YOUR LINE OF WE DO IT ALL. THAT IS THE KIND OF STUFF, I DO NOT KNOW WHO ELSE TO TALK TO. >> IF YOU SIGN IT WE WILL DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN, WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT THE FENCE WORK. >> THAT CHAIN-LINK FENCE HAS FALLEN BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS MESSED WITH IT. IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE IT FELL NATURALLY. >> WE HAVE GOTTEN BIDS AND PRICES ON IT. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE PRICING FOR IT IS ABOUT 100K. >> FOR THE FENCE? >> AGAIN, WE ARE DOING AT A STANDARD YES IT'S NOT GOING TO BREAK. IT IS LIKE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TYPE FENCING. >> WHEN YOU GET THE BAND A PRICE TO? >> THAT IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND BEGAN DATING IT. PULLING OUT SECTIONS MAKING SURE THEY ARE SECURE, AND EVENTUALLY THIS WE WILL NEED TO DO. >> THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY IN THE HOMELESS INITIATIVE FROM THE CITY SIDE, I DO NOT KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OPPORTUNITIES TO DO IT INTO LOCAL WITH THEM. AGAIN, THIS IS AN UNFORESEEN, WHO WOULD'VE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE? WRITE DOWN THERE. >> IF I COULD SHRINK WRAP THAT BUILDING I WOULD DO IN A HEARTBEAT. >> I KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO TOO. >> TITAN EVERYTHING IS UP THERE TIGHTENING AND SECURE IT. WE HAVE PEOPLE PICKING UP MATERIAL AND PUTTING IN STATORS AND MARKING THOSE CASINOS. THAT IS ON EVERY SIDE WHERE THEY CAME FROM. AND WE ARE PUTTING IT UP. WE ARE GOING FOR A CUT IN THE [02:00:04] YARD. I WILL PUT THAT ON THE SCHEDULE WE CAN DO THAT. I KNOW THAT THE BOARDING IS GOING TO BE MORE DIFFICULT. WE HAVE BEEN TO WHEN SHE PLAYED ON THE BOTTOM LEVELS, BUT THAT IS NOT EFFICIENT ON THE TOP. AND COMMISSIONERS, THE THING IS WITH A SHEET PLATE, ONCE WE ARE THROUGH WITH THE BUILDING, WE CANNOT TAKE SO SHE PLACE AND MAKE BARKING IS FOR THEM. >> THAT IS A RECYCLABLE MATERIAL. >> JUDGE, THOSE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW. >> EDWARD EXCUSE ME,. >> YES, SIR. >> THE BASEBALL FIELDS, HAVE WE DONE ANYTHING WITH THEM? >> THE ONLY THING WE ARE LOOKING AT THEIR COMMISSIONER, WE HAVE LICENSED THOSE FIELDS SO TOO WILL REBEL. SO ORVILLE IS RESPONSIBLE TOWARDS THEM. WE HAD PROMISED THEM BACK AND, IN 2017 OR 2018. IT WAS TO HELP THEM KNOCK DOWN THERE TO BUILDINGS. BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS, IS THEY ASKED US NOT TO DO IT. THEY WERE TRYING TO GET GRANTS TO REPLACE THOSE BUILDINGS, AND THEY ASKED US TO HOLD OFF. SO GREAT IS THE GENTLEMEN WE ARE WORKING WITH, AND HE ASKED US AND WE WERE GOING TO TEAR THEM DOWN. THAT IS THE ONLY THING WE ARE WORKING WITH RIGHT NOW. >> I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT THEIR RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING FOR THE WATER? >> YES. >> AND THE LINES WERE HOOKED TOGETHER, THE SNACK BAR,. >> THEY WERE UNTIL WE SPENT $600,000 PUTTING IN A NEW PARKING LOT, AND AS PART OF THAT NEW PARKING LOT, WE EXCAVATED AND SEPARATED ALL OF THE LINES. SO, THERE IS LIKE 5 METERS OUT THERE, BECAUSE THERE IS THE BOY SCOUTS, AND THE WOMEN'S KICKBALL GROUP, THEY ARE THERE AS WELL. AND THEN WE HAVE SOME BATHROOMS THERE THAT WE KEEP OPEN FOR EVERYBODY. THEY ARE PORTABLE UNITS. >> THE BATHROOMS ARE OUR RESPONSIBILITY? >> YES, SIR. >> I AM JUST REMEMBERING ABOUT THAT LITTLE FELLA THE DOOR CLOSER WASN'T WORKING AS SOME LIKE THAT. >> CORRECT. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CHECK ALL OF THAT. >> YES OR WE HAVE ALL THE CHECKED OUT AT THAT POINT. AT THAT TIME, I WILL TALK YOU ABOUT LATER. >> ALL RIGHT I APPRECIATE IT. >> OKAY, ALL RIGHT, WELL I THINK THAT IF THERE IS NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR EDWARD. WE WILL LET HIM OFF THE HOOK AND SEND HIM BACK DOWNSTAIRS TO CONTINUE VACCINATIONS. THIS AS THEY SAY, IT IS SPREADING THE NEW WORD OF A DIFFERENT TYPE. BUT BASICALLY EDWARD IF I HAVE TO SAY ONE THING ABOUT YEARS. I'M TAKING THIS OUT BECAUSE I HAVE TO STUDY THIS IS INTENSE FOR ME. IT IS REALLY THE CAPITAL OUTLAY, THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS BUDGET AND YEAR OVER LAST. AND THAT IS WHAT I CALL THE? THE UNKNOWN? >> CORRECT JUDGE, THE THING IS WE HAVE PROJECTS EVERY YEAR, AND THINGS THAT WE NEED AND WANT TO DO, THINGS LIKE WE ARE BUILDING SOCCER FIELDS, THERE IS AN INHERENT NEED, SOMEBODY NEEDS THAT FIELD. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE GOT AN END WITH THE PANDEMIC AND IS MADE UP WORD. AN OBESITY PROBLEM IN CHILDREN. >> YES. >> THOSE ARE THINGS WE ARE TRYING TO HELP ADDRESS AS PART OF THE COMMITTEE AND WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. IT IS TO GET THEM OUT THERE, GET THEM OUT THERE PLAYING AND GET THEM BACK TO WHERE THEY ARE ENJOYING. >> IT SO MY QUESTION TO DALE IS THAT, AND I AM NOT SAYING THAT WE WILL, IT IS POTENTIALLY A SOLUTION FOR THAT $1 MILLION TO COME FROM CEOS IF YOU ARE DOING APART, OR A SOCCER FIELD. I KEEP THINKING WE ARE GOING TO SAVE MONEY ON GENERATORS, I AM GOING TO ABOUT HAVE A GENERATED CONVERSATION ABOUT 50 MINUTES. IF THAT HELP ITS TAIL, A MILLION DOLLARS CUT'S NEW STAIR, AND FROM SOME OTHER AREA. WOULD YOU SEE THAT AS A POTENTIAL SOLUTION FOREVER? IT IS TOUGH TO COME UP WITH A MILLION EXTRA YEAR. >> YES, I AM LOOKING AT SOMETHING REAL QUICK, I KNOW, ONE OF OUR CEOS WE'VE ASSIGNED MONEY TOO, EDWARD SPARKS. BUT MAYBE THOSE FUNDS HAVE BEEN USED. SO I WILL FIND OUT AND WE CAN BASE LOOK INTO THAT. >> WE WILL PHASE IT OUT, WE WILL TOUCH THIS ONE, LIKE HAZEL BAY IS ONE PART. I NOTICE YOU HAVE THIS I WATCHED IN THE PARK AND ON. THAT IS ESSENTIAL, HOW CAN YOU ENJOY THE PARK IF YOU DON'T HAVE A SIDEWALK. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US PRIORITIZE, I WOULD LOVE FOR THE BURDEN TO BE OFF THIS FISCAL BUDGET AND PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE WE BELIEVE THOSE CEOS CAN DO A GOOD JOB. >> THE REASON WE MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE THOSE IS EXACTLY WHAT [02:05:02] YOU'RE SAYING THAT JUDGE. THERE IS SO MANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE COMMISSIONER GOES OUT THERE AND YOU MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS DONE CORRECTLY. WE HAVE THE NEW PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. >> WE LOVE IT. >> I GO THERE ON THE WEEKENDS, AND THOSE FAMILIES ENJOYING THOSE PLAYGROUNDS. PEOPLE BARBECUING. >> THE REPORT WE JUST SUBMITTED IN FEBRUARY, THERE IS A PROJECT CODE 19-22-1,000. -ÚA- >> GOOD AFTERNOON. OKAY. WE'RE BACK FROM LUNCH. WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH DEPARTMENT 0150. IT ENCOMPASSES THE LAW AND THE LIBRARY FUND. OR AS WE LIKE TO SAY, THE LIBRARIES. >> 791, YOUR HONOR. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. HOW IS EVERYONE DOING TODAY? >> BETTER NOW THAT I'VE EATEN. >> MUCH BETTER. >> VERY GOOD. >> I'D LIKE TO START OUT BY SAYING GOOD AFTERNOON AND THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT. WE HAVE HAD A -- OF COURSE EVERYBODY HAS, BUT IN SEPTEMBER OF 2019 WAS WHEN I HAD MY CONVERSATION WITH THE JUDGE ABOT US ACQUIRING THE LAW LIBRARY WHICH HAS BEEN ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT WE -- THAT I COULD HAVE GOTTEN, BECAUSE I KNEW FROM MANY, MANY YEARS THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER MY DIRECTIVES, BUT I WAS TALKING TO DALE EARLIR AND WE'VE GOTTEN SOME GOOD NEWS. WE'VE -- EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE BEN UNDER COVID, YESTERDAY THE LIBRARIAN FROM THE LAW LIBRARY HAS BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH DELMAR COLLEGE AND I WAS A STUDENT WAY BACK IN THE '90S, SO I MADE ATTEMPTS TO COME HERE, BUT I FOUGHT IT AND I WAS ABLE O WALK IN THE DOOR, BUT THE STUDENTS AT DELMORE COLLEGE HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T. >> SO NOW THEY'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE LIBRARY FOR THREE YEARS. THE LAW LIBRARY -- BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING -- >> WOW. RENOVATIONS, SO THEY WERE GOING TO ASK IF THEY COULD SEND THEIR STUDENTS OVER HERE. >> WE CAN HAVE MORE PEOPLE COMIG IN. >> THAT'S GREAT. SO WE'LL GIVE YOU DETAILS LATER. IT'S JUST IN THE BEGINNING STAGES. >> MAYBE THEY'LL EVEN GIVE US -- DO THEY HAVE GRANTS. WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN STILL CONTINUE TO -- >> WE'RE PROVIDING A GREAT SERVICE AND THEY MAY HAVE SOME DOLLARS TO SHARE, MAYBE NOT, BUT I MEAN, IT JUST -- THEY HAVE A FOUNDATION THAT MIGHT -- THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTING. >> YEAH. SO WE'LL KEEP YOU ALL INFORMED, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY GOOD NEWS BECAUSE OF COVID WE HAD LIMITED CAPABILITY TO DO OUTREAH AND NOW WE STARTED SLOWLY, BUT BECAUSE OF A GRANT THAT WE'RE APPLYING, WE WANTED THEM TO COMMUNICATE WITH US AND SEND USA LETTER OF SUPPORT AND THEN SHE TOLD US WHAT WE WERE GOING TO BE DOING, SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET MORE GOOD NEWS. >> WHEN WILL THAT START, FORGIVE ME? >> PROBABLY IN THE FALL. IN THE FALL. WE'LL KEEP EVERYBODY INFORMED AD IF WE NEED AN MOU WITH DELMAR, WE'LL WORK ON IT. >> WE'VE HAD A LOT OF GREAT THINGS HAPPEN AT THE LAW LIBRARY. WE HAD THE CARPETING REMOVED BECAUSE OF THE MOLDING, THE MOLD AND STUFF IN THERE, AND SO NOW E HAVE LUXURY VINYL FLOORS WHICH HAS WORKED OUT REALLY GREAT, AND [02:10:04] SLOWLY BUT SURELY WE'VE HAD A LT OF PEOPLE, I DID ATTACH SEVERAL ITEMS THAT CAN GIVE YOU THE STATISTICS OF WHAT WE'VE DONE AD HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE UTILIZED TE LIBRARY, AND I'LL START OUT BY TALKING ABOUT OUR BUDGET AND OUR BASE BUDGET RIGHT NOW FOR THE SUPPLIES REALLY NEEDS TO BE INCREASED, BECAUSE NOW THAT WE HAVE OUR AUTOMATION, WE NEED TO CATALOG ALL THE BOOKS. SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED CATALOGIG SUPPLIES AND I'M ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL $4,600 FOR SUPPLIES AND THAT WOULD GREATLY HELP, I MEAN, THE SUPPLIES ARE VERY EXPENSIVE. THEY NEED TO HAVE THE STRIPS AND STUFF IN THE BACK SO WE CAN KNOW WHERE THEY ARE AND TRACK THEM, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO ASKING FOR $1,500 FOR A LICENSE RENEWAL, BECAUSE WE DID GET A GRANT FROM THE STATE BAR. WE NEED TO CONTINUE WITH A LICENSE RENEWAL OF $1,500. SO THAT'S IN CATEGORY 53.11. AND THEN 3 PERCENT INCREASE FOR THE WESTLAW WHICH WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT. THAT WILL BE ANOTHER 15,000 FOR BOOKS, AND I DID SUBMIT, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL ATTORNEYS THAT HAVE REQUESTED LOTS OF MATERIALS, AND SOME OF THE BOOKS WHICH TOTALED UP TO 65, ALMOST $65,000, $63,64 AND THESE ARE BOOKS THAT WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE. I'M ONLY ASKING FOR 15, BUT IT DEPENDS ON WHATEVER THE COURT SEES IS NECESSARY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE NEEDS OF THE ATTORNEYS AND THE CLIENTS THAT ARE COMING INTO THE LIBRARY. WHEN I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH COMMISSIONER MAREZ HE ASKED ME, HOW MUCH MORE DO YOU NEED IN AND AT THE TIME I DIDN'T HAVE A FIGURE, BECAUSE IT'S APPROXIMATELY $65,000. I ONLY ASKED FOR $15,000, BUT IT WILL BE A START FROM THE BUDGET WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. AND ALSO ON CONTRACTUAL INCREASS FOR THE COPIER -- NO, I DON'T HAVE THERE, I'M SORRY. FOR THE CAPITAL. WE CAN GO TO CAPITAL NOW. WHAT DID I ASK FOR CA CAPITAL, IF PEOPLE TRY TO TAKE A BOOK, IT WILL BEEP, AND WE DON'T HAVE ONE. WE ALREADY HAVE THE AUTOMATION, BUT NOW WE NEED T GATES AND TTHAT DOES COST APPROXIMATELY $27,000. >> FOR NONCAPITAL NEEDS, BEGINNING WITH SOME SPECIFIC EQUIPMENT, TECHNICAL PROCESSING TABLE, REPLACE THE OLD DILAPIDATED CHAIRS THAT ARE NOT ADA COMPLIANT, AROUND FOUR OF THOSE. SOME ADJUSTABLE HEIGHT TABLES THAT ARE ADA COMPLIANT FOR THE PUBLIC AREA. IF THEY WANT TO STAND AND UTILIE THE COMPUTERS AND LOOK UP INFORMATION, WE ALSO WOULD LIKE AN INTERCOM FOR SOMEBODY TO COME INTO THE FRONT DOOR IF THEY HAVE A QUESTION, THEY CAN PRESS THE INTERCOM OR SOMEBODY IS IN THE BACK, THEY CAN ANSWER THEM. THAT'S ABOUT $1,600. AND ALSO REPLACE THE LAW LIBRARIAN'S DESK AND WE GOT QUOTES, ROUGHLY ABOUT $3,500. THESE NEEDS ARE ABOUT $8,734. >> ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR? >> NOPE? >> AND MY NEXT ITEM IS OUR STAFF. OUR LIBRARY ATTENDANT IS ONE OF THE POSITIONS THAT MISS JULIE HD CALLED AND THERE WERE THREE POSITIONS THAT SHE ASKED THAT WE HAVE THEM RECLASSIFIED FROM THE INTERMEDIATE CLERK, WHICH WAS A 30,076 SHE SAID FOR ALL OF THEM TO BE THE SAME TO INCREASE FROMA STEP 11 TO A STEP 13 AND SHE SAD THAT WOULD ALIGN MY STAFF WITH ALL THE OTHER POSITIONS IN THE COUNTY AND SO I DIDN'T HAVE EXCEPT INTENTIONED TO DO THAT, BUT I WENT AHEAD AND DID THAT ON THE LAST DAY WHICH WOULD INCREASE IT BY $624 AND I'M ALSO GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVEA TECHNICAL SERVICES LAW LIBRARY N POSITION. WE NEED TO HAVE ALL THE BOOKS CATALOGS AND CURRENTLY WE HAVE ABOUT 13,000 BOOKS, AND CRYSTAL AND CHRISTOPHER HAVE BEEN TEACHING JEANNIE AND AMY HOW TO DO THE PROCESSING AND IT TAKES ONE PERSON TO DO THIS WORK, AND SO THAT POSITION IS GOING TO BEA [02:15:01] TECHNICAL SERVICES LIBRARIAN AND IT'S ABOUT $40,414 A YEAR. THE STAFF THERE RIGHT NOW THAT'S AT THE INTERMEDIATE CLERK POSITION, SHE HAS A BACHELORS AD A MASTER'S DEGREE SO SHE WOULD TIE INTO THE LIBRARIAN POSITION THAT WOULD QUALIFY HER FOR THAT POSITION. >> AND I KNOW THAT THE FIRST THING THAT I DID WHEN I CAME ON BOARD WAS TO RAISE THE FINES THT ARE BEING COLLECTED FOR OUR FUND TO -- IN ORDER TO -- AND I WAS TALKING TO DALE EARLIER THAT WE DID DO A VISIT WHEN I FIRST GOT ON BOARD AND WE WENT TO HILDAGO AND I LOOKED AT THEIR BUDGET AND THEY HAVE OVER $1 MILLION IN RESERVES, SO I TOLD DALE THAT HOPEFULLY ONE DAY, IT WILL PROBABLY BE AFTER I'M GONE THAT OUR FUNDS WILL ALSO BE THAT MUC, BUT FOR RIGHT NOW I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE TRIED AND I DID MY DUE DILIGENCE BY TRYING TO RAISE THE FUNDS IN ORDER TO HAVE MORE MONY IN OUR BUDGET, BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOME OF THESE THINGS ON BOARD AND WE CAN HAVE A BETTER DEPARTMENT AND HAVE MORE PEOPLE COMING IN AND WE HAD COVID FOR THE YEAR, SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE, BUT OUR LIBRARIES NEVER CLOSED, NEITHER DID THE LAW LIBRARIES, SO WE HAD PEOPLE COMING IN YEAR-ROUND ANDI HAD THE STATISTICS THERE THAT JJEANNIE. IT TELLS YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE CAE EVERY DAY, AND HOW MANY PEOPLE VISITED, THE AVERAGE RANGE, THE DATABASES, THE SERVICES, THE CONFERENCE ROOM, HOW MANY PEOPLE DID ZOOMS, SO I HOPE YOU ALL HAE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE STATS. >> IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN ENTERTAIN SOME QUESTIONS. >> AS I WAS SAYING, WHEN SHE CAE IN, THE FUNDS IN THIS PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT ARE VERY, VERY MINIMAL, BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION THAT WAS RUNNING THIS STUFF DIDN'T EITHER CHARGE RENTAL SPACES OR AS SHE'S SAYIN, REFUSED TO LET PEOPLE HAVE ACCES TO THE BUILDING. I KNOW I WAS GOING TO WORK ON MAKING SURE THAT'S APPROVED, BUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR YEAR, IT MAY BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT, I'LL WORK WITH HER ON THESE BUDGET ITEMS. SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE DEFINITELY NEEDED MAY BE ASKING THE GENERAL FUND TO GET THIS THING RUNNING CORRECTLY FOR A LITTLE BIT. WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH HER TRY TO GET THIS RUNNING CORRECTLY TO TRY TO BRING IN MONEY. >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> MAYBE TO THE DESKS AND THE CHAIRS, THOSE SEEM REASONABLE REQUESTS. WE COULD MAKE WORK WITH DALE ON THAT PIECE OF IT AS CAPITAL AND THEN THE ONE THAT SEEMS LIKE, YU KNOW, WE PROBABLY MIGHT BE A BIG ASK, BUT MAYBE GENERAL FUND, IS THAT BIBLIOTECH, EVERY LIBRARY HAS TO PROTECT THEIR RESOURCES AND THOSE -- THOSE THINGS ARE EXPENSIVE. THEY'RE EXPENSIVE. WE ALSO -- I DON'T KNOW IF I MISSED IT, BUT WE ALSO OFFER TO THE PUBLIC WESTLAW. >> YES. THEY CAN UTILIZE IT TO SOME DEGREE. AND THEN THEY PAY FOR SOME OF IT. >> YES. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE ALL OF THE MATERIALS, BECAUSE MAINLY IF THY COME IN, THEY HAVE TO TELL US EXACTLY WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING FR AND THEY'LL TELL THEM, HERE ARE THE BOOKS AND IT'S UP UP TO THEM, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ATTORNEYS, THEY CAN UTILIZE THE BOOKS AND THE MATERIALS. MOST OF THE TIME IT'S SOMETHING EASY THEY CAN ANSWER, WHATEVER THEY NEED. AND RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAVE ONE TERMINAL OR TWO? >> ONE. >> JUST ONE. >> ONE LICENSE. ONE LICENSE. WE DID REMOVE THE PEOPLE MAPPING THAT Y'ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT YESTERDAY, I SEND A MESSAGE, Y'ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY NEEDED. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE DO SO MANY WESTLAW LICENSES AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD NEGOTIATE FOR A SECONDARY LICENSE IN OUR CONTRAT NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE SPECIFIC PURPOSES OF THE LAW LIBRARY, NOT BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ATTORNEY ASSIGNED TO THAT TERMINAL, RIGH, BUT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO, AND THEN THE ONE I WAS THINKING OF WAS THE ONE THAT -- WHETHER YOU COULD DO SEARCHERS, LEXUS NEXUS. >> WE'VE NEVER HAD THE LEXUS NEXUS. WHICH IS THE ONE THAT ALLOWED THEM TO HELP TRACE THE PEOPLE THAT -- >> OH, IT WAS THE PEOPLE -- THE PEOPLE -- >> THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE GOT RID OF. SO WE'RE OUT OF THAT ONE, BUT WO HAS IT? >> SOME INVESTIGATORS IN THE DA OFFICE HAS IT. >> CID HAS IT. >> AND YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU NEED IT. >> NO. >> IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE IN THE CRIMINAL DEPARTMENT. >> I DIDN'T WANT TO SUBJECT MY STAFF BECAUSE THEY HAD PEOPLE COMING IN THAT WERE WANTING THINGS THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. >> NOT APPROPRIATE. I ASKED HIM, I SAID, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ARE JUST CANCEL AT THE END OF THE [02:20:02] CONTRACT, WE DID. >> GOT IT. >> SO WE JUST CHOSE NOT TO. >> NOT TO RENEW. YES. >> OKAY. OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT. >> AND WE'RE ALL ADA COMPLIANT P THERE. >> YES. >> AWESOME. >> THANK YOU. GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. >> YES. WHEN I THINK OF THE LAW LIBRARY, I KIND OF THINK OF STAND-ALONE, SEPARATE, BUT IT IS REALLY A PAT OF THE SYSTEM. YES. >> I KNOW THAT I NEED TO START USING THAT LANGUAGE BECAUSE I THINK THAT REALLY PROMOTES THE WORK THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND ALL THE MULTIPLE HATS THAT YOU HAVE, KIND OF ARE ALL DELVED INO ONE PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT HEAD,A SYSTEM, A NETWORK, AND I THINK THAT WOULD HELP THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS EXPANDING - I ALWAYS THINK, THAT'S WHERE I GO, MY PRECINCT, BUT OVERALL THE LARGER GROUP, IT'S BISHOP, AND I REMEMBER EVEN DISCUSSIONS AND MAYBE SOMETHING AT ONE OF THE PIERS, I THINK FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES, OR ONE OF THOSE, I DON'T REMEMBER. BUT I -- I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING HERE, AND I'E NEVER BEEN TO THE LAW LIBRARY BECAUSE I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT I GOT TO GO UP A COUPLE OF TIMES TO THE LAW LIBRARY TO SEE IT, VISIT DURING COVID AND IT WAS REALLY DURING THE TIMES I THINK WHEN THE JUDGE HAD JUST ROLLED OUT THE CALL CENTER. >> OH, YEAH. >> FOR THE COVID HOTLINE. >> AND HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS UP THERE AND I WAS REALLY JUST TAKEN ABACK, BECAUSE UP TOWARDSI WOULD SAY THE ENTIRE COURTHOUSE AND ITS TOWER, BUT NOT THAT PARTICULAR FLOOR, AND SO TO BE ABLE TO GO IN THERE AND SEE THA, ONE THING THAT KIND OF RINGS BAK AND ONE OF THE MULTIPLE PRESENTATIONS YOU'VE SAID BEFOR, AT SOME POINT THIS YEAR OR LAST WAS THE LAW LIBRARY, LIKE A LOT OF LAW LIBRARIES, I GUESS IT'S A RACE TO CATCH UP TO THE MOST CURRENT PUBLICATIONS, AND SO, YU KNOW, MY THING WOULD BE I WOULD OBVIOUSLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE MOST RECENT, IF WE CAN, AND SO ONCE AGAIN I KNOW IT'S ALL ABOUT BALANCING OT THE BUDGET AND IT'S NOT MAYBE PRACTICAL TO HAVE EVERY SINGLE DOCUMENT, BUT AT LEAST THE BASIS THAT YOU NEED AS A RESOURCE. >> FOLLOWING UP THAT, ONE OF OUR BISHOP CONSTITUENTS WANTED A DIVORCE HANDBOOK FROM THE -- ASA FORM, BUT THE LAW LIBRARY HAD IT. SO WE CHECKED IT OUT TO US WHEN -- WE TAKE IT TO BISHOP, BT THEY CAN ONLY READ IT THERE AT THE BISHOP LIBRARY. THEY DON'T CHECK IT OUT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HELP OUR CONSTITUENTS FIND LEGAL ACCESS R FORMS AS LIBRARIANS. >> GOOD TO KNOW. THANK YOU. >> ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO AD, WHEN WE CAME ON BOARD, AS LIBRARIES, PUBLIC LIBRARIES, THE LAW LIBRARY DID NOT HAVE ANY KID OF SOCIAL MEDIA, SO CRYSTAL AND ESPECIALLY OUR WEBSITE AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE GETTING READY TO STEP UP. SO ALL OUR LIBRARIES ARE GOING O HAVE GRANICA, UPDATED AND WONDERFUL, SO WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT. IT'S IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO. AND SO WE HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA, ON FACEBOOK, ON TWITTER, THEY'RE GIVING THEM UPDATES ON WHAT WE'E BEEN DOING, THE RENOVATIONS, SO WE'RE JUST TRYING AND IT'S WORKING BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN, WALKING IN AND THEY REALIZE THAT WE'RE THERE AND I MEAN AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN AT THE LIBRARY WE I'VE BEEN THERE 14 YEARS, PEOPLE COME IN AND STILL DON'T KNOW IT'S A LIBRARY. IT'S ALWAYS A WORK IN PROGRESS, SO I REALLY HAVE TO THANK, YOU KNOW, MY STAFF FOR ASSISTING THM HERE AT THE LAW LIBRARY AND THEN OF COURSE MY LIBRARIANS HERE HAE DONE A GREAT JOB IN THE PAST YER AND A HALF TO RENNOVATE AND CLEAN BOOKS OUT, THERE WAS STUFF IN CLOSET FOR 34 YEARS AND I HAE TO GIVE THEM A LOT OF CREDIT FOR DOING ALL OF THAT AND IT WAS A GROUP EFFORT, WE ALL DUG DEEP IN THE TRENCHES AND TOOK CARE OF IT. >> AND I COULDN'T DO IT EITHER - THERE WAS A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS, PUBLIC WORKS, JUAN, HIS STAFF AD MICHAEL ROBINSON HAS ALWAYS HELPED US GET IN ALL THESE QUOTS THAT WE'VE HAD, SO I HAVE TO THANK A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE HELPED US ALONG THE WAY. >> VERY GOOD, IDA. VERY GOOD. >> JUST AS A RECAP. >> UH-HUH. >> IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS ABOUT 60,000 OVERALL, BUT A HALF OF THAT IS THAT BIBLIOTECH TO PREVENT THE BOOKS FROM WALKING [02:25:02] OFF. AND LIKE WE SEE EVERY WHERE ELS, CONTRACTUAL INCREASES FROM C COPIERS AND CATALOGING SUPPLIES. THEN THE PERSONNEL SIDE, DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT? >> YES, THAT WAS THE ONE POSITION, JUDGE, FOR THE -- >> THE 50,000. >> YES. IT'S ABOUT 40,000 PLUS FOR THE ONE POSITION FOR THE CATALOGING, AND THAT POSITION IS GOING TO BE SOLELY TO DO THE BOOKS AT THE -- AT THE LAW LIBRARY, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE -- MY STAFF HAS BEEN COMING BACK AND FORTH, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAVE BOOKS WE HAVE TO CATALOG AND THESE ARE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS BOOKS, IT'S FROM DEY DECIMAL, AND WE REALLY NEED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE O HAVE A PROFESSIONAL LIBRARIAN WORKING ON THAT TO DO THAT WORK. >> RIGHT. >> I'M NOT -- I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT I KNOW SOMEBODY THAT WOULD DO THIS, SO I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT AS IDEAS, BUT WE HAVENT BECAUSE OF COVID, NOW WE'RE ABLE TO, I KNOW -- LADIES HAVE THOUGT ABOUT HOSTING A BAR ASSOCIATION. >> YES. >> AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT AS LONG AS WE COULD FIND AN APPROPRIATE WAY FOR DONATIONS TO COME IN. >> UH-HUH. >> I THINK THAT OUR BAR IS SO HAPPY WITH US, GIVEN THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET THEIR, YOU KNO, DOCUMENTS ONLINE FOR ALL OF 254 FOR CIVIL AND WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO HAVE UP THERE. >> THINK ABOUT IT. FOR ANY LAWYER THAT'S PRACTICING HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND OF COURSE ALL THOSE VISITINGS -- VISITOR LAWYERS, IT'S JUST A HUE ASSET TO BE ABLE TO GO UP THERE AND WORK AND TO HAVE ACCESS TO WESTLAW. I'M THINKING FOR MAYBE MAY BE SOME OF OUR NEEDS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD HURT, WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO CLE, IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE YOU GIRLS, LET'S HOST, PLAN FOR A FALL EVENT WHERE YOU COULD HOST CLE, REALLY SHOWCASE WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS AND DESPITE COVID, AND THEN MAYBE EVEN TALK TO THE LEADERSHIP ABOT A CAPITAL CAMPAIGN WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO IT, BUT THEY MIGHT -- IF THEY KNEW WHAT OUR NEEDS WERE, THEN MAYBE THEY COUD HELP CONTRIBUTE, AND IT SHOULD E SOMETHING CAPITAL THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO HELP YOU IN ANOTHER AREA, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> I WAS TALKING TO CRYSTAL YESTERDAY ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE WE HAD THE BIBLE CAMPAIGN WHEN WE FIRST MOVED INTO THE -- >> THE WHAT CAMPAIGN? >> THE BIBLE CAMPAIGN AT THE LIBRARY. >> BUY A BOOK. >> THEY RAISED FUNDS FOR US, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK IT WAS ABOUT $250,000 FOR US TOO. WE HAD A LOT OF BOXES IN BOOKS THAT WEREN'T PROCESSED. WE COULDN'T STORE THEM, BUT WE DID HAVE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE RAISE $250,000. THERE'S ALWAYS THINGS LIKE THAT IF THEY WANT TO, SOMEBODY CAN BY A BOOK CAMPAIGN, OR WHATEVER CAN BE DONE FOR THE LAW LIBRARY THAT WOULD BENEFIT EVERYONE. >> RIGHT. RIGHT. >> I FEEL -- WE BUILT A COURTROM ON THE FIFTH FLOOR WITH THAT -- WITH THAT PRETENSE. I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THE BAR AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IF THEY WANT TO CONTRIBUTE, THAT'S ALL. >> DALE, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP US MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S -- AS LONG AS THEY'RE DOING IT, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD DO A DONATION AND, YU KNOW, AS LONG AS YOU TELL US WHT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DONATE TO, BT A LOT OF YOUR SUPPLIES AND STUF, I MEAN, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE WOULD BE A WILLINGNESS, BECAUSE WE'RE DOING OUR PART. WE'VE DONE A LOT FOR THEM IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, GETTING THIS LIBRARY -- IT'S WORKABLE NOW. YOU CAN REALLY GO UP THERE AND WORK. >> I KNOW HARD, IF WE COULD PLEASE EVERYBODY, BOY, WOULDN'T THAT BE LOVELY? >> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR IDA REGARDING HER LAW LIBRARY? OR THE PERSONAL REQUEST 0150. >> OKAY, IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD, IDA. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> JUDGE, I JUST WANTED TO PREFACE THIS NEXT ONE SINCE SCOT IS HERE. THIS MAY BE THE FIRST TIME IN TE HISTORY OF ME BEING ON THE COURT THAT I HAVE ACTUALLY PUT IN FOR SOME INCREASED FUNDS WITHOUT SUBSEQUENT CUTS TO GO ALONG WITH IT. I'LL TRY TO FIND MY CUTS, SO PAT OF THIS, SCOTT WAS AT MY REQUES, BECAUSE I WANTED TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR LIFEGUARDS TO GET MORE COVERAGE ON THE BEACH. >> WE HAVE TO DO THAT BY A MANDATE. >> I THINK THAT'S COMING DOWN TE PIKE ANYWAY. BUT -- SO SOME OF THIS INCREASE IS DEFINITELY AT MY REQUEST ANDI DON'T WANT TO GET -- I DON'T WAT TO THROW SCOTT UNDER THE BUS [02:30:03] UNNECESSARILY. >> DON'T WORRY. WHILE YOU WERE GONE, EVERYBODY CAME IN HERE WITH MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF REQUESTS. YOU'RE FINE. I KNOW YOU WERE LISTENING, BUT T WAS -- IT WAS MORE IMPACTFUL TO HAVE THEM SAY IT IN FRONT OF YOU. JUST AS A DOUBLE CHECK, WHEN WE SAY LAW LIBRARY FUND 0150, IT IS EVERYTHING. >> THE WAY IT'S HERE, IT WAS PERFECT LAW LIBRARY, BUT IT'S EVERYTHING. >> OKAY. , GOT IT. >> OKAY. >> AND SO AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, HEE COMES COASTAL PARKS BY ONE MINUTE. >> HEY, SCOTT. >> HEY. >> ARE YOU READY FOR ME TO START? >> YEAH, LET'S START ON 0180. >> I'M JUST GOING TO GO DOWN -- >> PAGE 798? >> I'M GOING TO GO DOWN THESE PRINT-OUTS JUST AS Y'ALL HAVE THEM. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO HAND OT TO YOU. IT WILL GO SMOOTH AND QUICK. >> ON 180, WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO DEPARTMENT -- BUDGET LINE ITEM 5240, THAT IS MAINTENANCE REPAIRS, EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES, WE ALWAYS SEEM TO BE HAVING TO MOVE SOMETHING IN THERE. LAST YEAR WHAT HIT US HARD WAS THE TROUBLE WE HAD ON THE OLD MOTOR GRADER BEFORE WE WERE ABLE TO TRADE IT OUT ON A NEW LEASE AND ON THESE HEAVY PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, WE LEASED THEM, WE'VE NEVER BOUGHT THEM OUTRIGHT. I KNOW THAT THAT'S KIND OF CAUSD SOME PROBLEMS FOR DALE, I THINK, WITH THESE ANNUAL LEASE PAYMENTS THAT HE'S HAVING -- OR LEASE REPORTS HE'S HAVING TO DO. THAT'S THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE WAY WE CAN GIVE THE HEAVY PIECES OF EQUIPMENT IS THROUGH LEASING THEM. WE'VE ALWAYS HANDLED IT THE SAME WAY, SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT. >> WE'VE REQUESTED A SMALL INCREASE THERE IN THAT LINE ITEM TO HELP WITH THE REPAIRS EQUIPMENT OF VEHICLES. TO SHOW THE COSTS OF THE FRONT-END LOADER, UTV, PICKUP TRUCKS, STUFF LIKE THAT. WE REQUESTED TO GO UP FROM 40 FROM 30. IT WAS A $10,000 INCREASE. NOTHING MORE ON THAT PAGE. THEN YOU GO TO -- ON THE MAINTENANCE, BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS REPAIRS, WE REQUESTED THAT $34,000 INCREASE, AND THAT WAS FOR US TO COVER THE COMMITMENT THAT Y'ALL SUPPORTED ME ON WITH ABM JANITORIAL SERVICES, I LIKE THE WAY THAT WENT LAST YEAR, BECAUSE YOU REMEMBER I CAME IN HERE ASKING FOR JANITORIAL FTES, AND I SAID, IF WE CAN'T GET JANITORIAL FTES, IF I CAN FIND A THIRD PARTY THAT CAN HELP US AND Y'ALL WERE ABLE TO DO IT, SO I APPRECIATE THE COMPROMISE. I TALKED TO MICHAEL IN PURCHASIG AND HE TOLD ME THAT'S BASICALLY -- THIS IS THE ANNUAL COST FOR US. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING INCLUDED FOR IB MCGEE, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT READY FOR IT YET. I NEED TO ADD THAT IN MY BUDGET. AND SO FAR, BY THE WAY, ABM HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO SEND OUT AND HELP US. >> BUT WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR THAT SO THEY DON'T CHARGE US FOR IT. WE'RE STILL KEEPING UP WITH MAINTENANCE, GUYS. >> LET'S SEE HERE. OKAY. >> I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT. LET'S MAKE SURE WE CHECK WITH WORKFORCE. >> IT'S TOUGH. >> THERE'S NO TRANSPORTATION, YU KNOW, FOR THEM, BUT LET'S MAKE THAT A LITTLE SIDE NOTE FOR YOU AND ME AND BRENT. IF WE HIGHLIGHT THOSE JOBS AND E WORK WITH RTA, THERE ARE SOME NW FLEX -- A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW, HEY, YOU CAN CALL RA FOR A DOLLAR AND YOU CAN GET A FLEX RIDE OUT THERE. BUT IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE --I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HEP IT ALONG. >> OKAY. >> IT'S A GOOD POINT, BECAUSE TE PADRE BAYOU PARK IS A DEDICATED BUS STOP. >> I THINK THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION BY JUST. IF YOU CAN CALL KEN. >> HE'S THE HEAD OF WORKFORCE -- >> HE'S NEXT DOOR AND HE'S -- >> ARE YOU MAKING A NOTE FOR ME? >> HE'LL HAVE -- >> LOTS OF PEOPLE TO -- >> OKAY. HE VETS FOR YOU, BUT THE OTHER GREAT THING IS SOMETIMES HE'S GT GRANTS FROM TEXAS WORKFORCE. HE CAN ACTUALLY PUT PEOPLE THERE AND PAY FOR IT. >> WELL, HE'LL VET FOR ABM. IF ABM IS NOT GOING TO DO IT, THEY DO NOT CHARGE US, AND YOU HAVE TO PICK THEM UP FOR A PERID OF TIME AND WE DEDUCT THE CHARGE AND PAY FOR IT. HOWEVER WE HAVE TO DO IT, WE'VE GOT TO GET YOU HELP. >> FYI, YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR WHAT'S IN THE CONTRACT, BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING SURE -- >> RIGHT. IT'S WHEN THEY BECOME AVAILABLE. YEAH. >> OKAY. THE NEXT BIG INCREASE HERE IS -- I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO APPROACH THIS, TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT, [02:35:07] BRISCOE KING, I KNOW I TALKED ABOUT IT WITH YOU, JUDGE, I KNOW I TALKED ABOUT IT WITH YOU COMMISSIONER. >> I NEED THE $18,200 SO I CAN GET IT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO REBUILD THE THING. AND I WENT BACK AND IT WAS IN MY OF 2009, RIGHT WHET WHEN I STARTED. >> EVIDENTLY COMMISSIONER ZAHN WENT UP WITH COMMISSIONER CASTLE AND THEY MET WITH COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, WHO WAS CHAIR OF THE GLO AT THE TIME. EVIDENTLY PATTERSON AND CHARLIE WERE COLLEGE ROOMMATES. SO AT ONE POINTED THEY WANTED US TO BASICALLY FIX BRISCOE KING PAVILION AND GET IT ELEVATED. RULE IS IT NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST 3 FEET OVER THE DUNE TO MEET THE RULES, AND AS LONG AS WE WOULD KEEP THE SAND FROM FALLING ON IT AND IT'S BECOMING EVEN MORE OF A PROBLEM WITH THE WAY THE DUNES HAVE GROWN. >> NOW WE CAN COME BACK AND MAKE THIS A FALL OR WINTERTIME PROJET SO THE PUBLIC CAN USE IT DURING THE SUMMER AND GET IT ELEVATED AND GET IT COMPLIANT. THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BE FIXING IT NOT ONLY IN ITS CURRENT STATE AD GETTING IT ELEVATED, BUT IT WOUD ALSO BE ADDRESSING ALL THE AD ISSUES AND TRANSITIONING IT TO THE BACK OF BRISCOE KING PAVILIN WHERE YOU HAVE THE SMOOTH TRANSITION THAT'S GETTING US ON ADA RIGHT NOW. I KNOW, JUDGE, WE'VE TALKED ABOT THIS. >> THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. BECAUSE I -- I'VE GONE THIS AND THEN I POPPED HERE AND I'M BACK. SO NOW THERESA FORGIVE ME, I'M BACK. BECAUSE I THOUGHT I READ THE E-MAIL THAT SAID WE'LL WAIT UNTL THE FALL, BUT IT LIK SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A DESIRE TO GET IT OPEN FOR THE SUMMER. >> I ASKED THERESA TO SCOUR -- THIS WAS BEFORE WE DID THE 20,00 IRT, IF I HAD ANY SPECIAL REVENE THAT I COULD LEND. BOARD WALK, FORGIVE ME, THE BOARDWALK BEHIND THE PAVILION TO GET THAT OFF YOUR PLATE, AND THE ANSWER AT THE TIME WAS GENTLEME, SO NOW I'M GOING TO RENEW MY QUESTION, COULD I DO HALF OF IT? WOULD YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AND SO THAT'S, COMMISSIONE, WHAT I WAS TALKING TO YOU ABOUT YESTERDAY IS THAT I FEEL LIKE THAT'S SO IMPORTANT TO HANDLE NOW, BECAUSE, A, IT CONNECTS THE PAVILION TO THE BEACH AND I JUST HATE THE WAY THAT PLYWOOD LOOKS AND, YOU KNOW -- >> AND I'M ALL -- WE'VE GOT TO GET IT DONE. >> 50/50, IF WE COULD DO THAT. >> AND HERE'S MY CAVEAT, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY WHEN WE WERE TEXTING. I THINK WE'VE GOT ANOTHER 100,00 COMING, SCOTT, FOR IB MCGEE, 70 SOMETHING, PLUS FOR THAT -- >> YEAH. >> I'M -- >> I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH I'VE ALREADY -- >> WE CAN DO THOSE 2021S. >> THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO LOOK A, THERESA, BECAUSE I THINK I'VE ALREADY COVERED -- >> YOU'VE COVERED $186,000 IN COST OVERRUNS. >> HOW MUCH? >> 186,000. >> I'VE ALREADY COVERED 186,000, WHICH I GET DID AND I'VE GOT IT. I HAVE OTHER PROJECTS, BELIEVE T OR NOT, THAT I AM TRYING TO PLAN FOR TOO. >> I KNOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY, ■BUT I HAVE ANOTHER $100,000 COMING, RIGHT, SCOTT, WHAT YOU ARE TELLING ME IS -- >> 76,000 AND A CHANGE ORDER FRM MACCO, AND WE HAVE DISCOVERED TE BOILER SYSTEM, THE HOT WATER IS SHOT AS WELL AND ESTIMATING 40,000 TO REPLACE IT. >> THE REASON -- I JUST NEED -- I'M GETTING TO WHERE -- >> SHE'S TALKING ABOUT -- >> THE JUDGE IS TALKING ABOUT HR SPECIAL REVENUE. SHE'S ASKING ME FOR HALF AND I'M SAYING, I'VE COVERED 186 AND I THINK I HAVE ANOTHER $100,000 COMING. >> FOR THE PEOPLE, MY FRIEND. FOR THE PEOPLE. >> I'M JUST GOING TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR THE PEOPLE TOO. >> I'VE BEEN WITH YOU. >> I'LL DO HALF ON THIS ONE, IF YOU'LL DO HALF ON THE NEXT 100 -- >> THE REASON IS I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I WANT -- BECAUSE DALE HAS TO MAKE HEADS OR TALES OF AL OF THIS. >> I'M SAYING I'M COMMITTED TO THE BOARDWALK TO GET IT OPEN FOR THE SUMMER. >> THEN WE COULD MESS WITH THE OTHER LATER ON. >> I JUST ASKED -- THERESA HAS O GO BACK AND LOOK. >> I'LL DO HALF FOR THIS ONE AND YOU'LL DO HALF ON THE NEXT 100. >> I DON'T HAVE IT ANYMORE. [02:40:01] I'M OUT. >> I'M OUT. >> SHE HAS NO COS. >> I'M OUT, BUT I'M HAPPY TO DO -- >> DO THAT AND I'LL FIGURE OUT -- >> I'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW O SPEND THE NEXT CHUNK THAT'S COMING. >> LET THERESA -- >> SCOTT, MY GOAL IS -- >> THANK YOU. LET US SOMEHOW -- US, MAYBE ME, TAKE CARE OF THE BOARDWALK. IT TAKES 18,000 OF YOUR BUDGET REQUEST. I THINK THAT HELPS. >> YEAH, 18,200. >> SORRY. 200. >> BRENT, YOU CAN THROW IN 200, RIGHT? >> SHE HAS 200? >> HE LIKES LIKE $200 IS -- >> THAT WOULD FIX IT IMMEDIATELY FOR THE SUMMER. I ALREADY HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT WE'VE GOTTEN A QUOTE FROM SO WE CAN GO. IT'S 290 SQUARE FOOT AT THE END THAT HAS TO BE REPAIRED AND THAT'S ALLOWABLE WITHOUT A PERMITTED AS LONG AS IT'S UNDER $300. I PERSONALLY HAVE A HARD TIME WITH THE $18,200 FOR THE SQUARE FOOT, BUT IT'S OUTRAGEOUS INFLATED CONSTRUCTION PRICES. >> I WANT TO TELL THE COURT WHEN WE GET TO THE NEW ELEVATED BOARDWALK SO WE CAN GET IT ABOVE THE DUNES AND THESE ARE MATERIAS THAT WILL BE WEATHER RESISTANT AND ALSO STORM RESISTANT, THERES ALWAYS PROS AND CONS, SOMETIMES THE FIBERGLAS CAN GET REAL FINE PARTICLES IN YOUR FEET. THERE'S ALL THESE HIGH-TECH MATERIALS THAT ARE BUILT FROM POLYMERS AND I THINK THAT'S GOIG TO BE A MUCH BETTER SOLUTION IN THE LONG RUN FOR THIS COASTAL ENVIRONMENT. WHAT WE LOVE ABOUT THE FIXING TE $18,200 IS IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY O ASK FOR MONEY FROM ALL THESE GREAT GRANTS. I FEEL LIKE IT'S A WORTHY -- SO LET THERESA -- >> I'VE COVERED ALMOST TO RUN AD I'VE GOT ANOTHER 100 COMING. I DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK I WAS BEING SELFISH. I APPRECIATE THE FACT YOU'RE WILLING TO DO THE BOARDWALK. >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR TE PUBLIC. IT'S THEIR ACCESS POINT. THERESA WILL GO BACK AND LOOK, BUT SHE CAN'T INVENTED MONEY OR PRINT IT. SHE CAN ONLY SEE IF I HAVE IT TO GIVE. THERESA IS GOOD AT FINDING MONE. SHE ALWAYS COMES AND TELLS ME HW TO SPEND MINE. IF IT'S THERE, WE'LL DO IT. AND KNOWING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO -- I WON'T BE ABLE TO HELP WITH ANYTHING -- >> THANKS GOOD. NEXT FISCAL YEAR. JUDGE, ONE OF THE THINGS TOO, WHILE HE'S TALKING ABOUT BRISCOE KING. I LIKE TO THROW THINGS OUT SO TE COURT HEARS IT. ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE ASKED HIM TO LOOK AT, NOT TODAY OR TOMORR. IF WE WERE TO HAVE THE FACILITY, AND I DON'T KNOW IT'S PRACTICAL, IF WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE IT IN AN AIR-CONDITIONING, INSULATED TYPE FACILITY, DON'T KNOW IF IT IS. WE LOOKED AT IT BACK IN THE DAY AND IT KIND OF GOT PUT ON THE SIDE. I THINK IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD PROBAB PROBABLY A RETURN OF INVESTMENT AND I THINK WE COULD INCREASE THE RENTAL FEES DRAMATICALLY. >> HUGE. >> THAT'S GOT A HUGE PARKING LOT AND ONCE THE BOARDWALK IS FIXED, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO DO IT. >> WE RENT THE HECK OUT OF IT NW AND IT'S HOT AND NOT SUPER COMFORTABLE. >> I'VE ASKED HIM TO DO AN ANALYSIS, I'M JUST LETTING THE COURT KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT, IT MAY NOT WORK, WE MAY NOT HAVE THE FUNDS. I THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT, BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN MAKE MONY OFF OF IT. >> THE BOARD HAS EXPRESSED, AT THE BOARD MEETING THAT CAME UP AND THAT SENTIMENT IS ECHOED. EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID IS ENDORSED AND ECHOED BY THE BOARD. I SAY, EVERYTHING -- WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT AS A COUNTY, IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR TAX RATE UBER LOW, WHICH EVERYBODY DOES, YOU'E GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WY TO MAKE REVENUE. >> AND WE'RE DRIVEN. THAT'S THE THING ABOUT COASTAL PARK -- >> YOU HAVE THAT LUXURY THAT YOU -- YOU CAN DO IT. YEAH, I THINK IT'S GREAT. >> AS WE SEE THINGS THAT WE CAN MOVE AROUND, WE'RE DOING IT, SO LET'S LET YOU CONTINUE. >> WHAT ELSE ARE YOUR BIG TICKET ITEMS? >> OKAY. WELL, GOING DOWN ON OTHER SERVICES, CHARGES, 5410, OPERATING BUDGET, I PUT IN THERE $23,000 TO WORK WITH GRANICUS. THERE'S GOING TO BE A CHANGE. >> I PUT IN 23,000 TO HELP WITH GRANICA TO HELP US BUILD A WEBSITE. COASTAL PARKS DOES NOT HAVE A VIABLE OPERATING WEBSITE AT ALL RIGHT NOW. I KNOW. >> BECAUSE WE ARE R REVENUE DEPENDENT, IT HAS TO MARKET US. IT HAS TO BE INTERACTIVE. SO I WENT INTO 181 ALREADY THIS [02:45:04] YEAR, WORKING THROUGH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, I HAD A CONTINGENCY AMOUNT THERE AND I MOVED ENOUGH OVER TO GET THIS WEBSITE PROJECT STARTED WITHOUT PUTTING IT IN MY NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, BECAUSE I DIDN'T FEEL I COULD WAIT. I NEEDED TO GET MY WEBSITE OUT THERE. THAT ASK RIGHT THERE WOULD ONLY BE $11,069 AND 74 CENTS. IT WOULD REDUCE DOWN TO THAT MUH AND COVER THE SECOND AND THIRD YEAR OF MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP AND OVERSIGHT. THE WEBSITE THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON FOR US, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, IS IT'S ONE THAT WILL INTERACT WITH THE CLIENT. WE COULD MOVE TOWARDS AN ONLINE RESERVATION SYSTEM WHICH WE DONT HAVE RIGHT NOW AND IT HAS DIFFERENT SOFTWARE BUILT INTO IT WHERE WE HAVE CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH THE PERSON MAKING A RESERVATION, IT WILL TAKE AWAY A LOT OF THE PHONE CALLS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE ON TE THURSDAY AND FRIDAY FOR HOLIDAY. IT'S A REALLY NEAT SYSTEM, AND I WORK WITH SHAWN IN IT TO HELP PT THAT TOGETHER AND HE VETTED IT WITH ME VERY CAREFULLY. SO I WOULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT TO $11,069, OR JUST MAKE IT $11,070. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF -- IF YOU CANT DO IT, WE'LL FIND ANOTHER WAY TO COVER IT. AND THEN ON CONTRACTUAL VEHICLE RENTAL, THAT'S RIGHT BELOW THAT. THAT'S 5420. I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE ENTERPRISE LEASE. I PUT IT IN IT THERE, BUT I THOUGHT LISA TOLD ME THAT'S TAKN CARE OF SOMEWHERE ELSE. IT COULD PROBABLY BE TAKEN OUT. I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO PUT IT. >> OFF THE INFORMATION WE RECEIE FROM ROMEO AND MICHAEL ON THE TRUCK OR CARS WE PROVIDED YOU OR WILL BE PROVIDING YOU VERY SOON. THAT'S WHERE THE INFORMATION COMES FROM. >> OKAY. SO YOU PROBABLY WANT TO TAKE THT OUT OF 180. I MEAN, NOT INCLUDE IT IN THE BUDGET REQUEST. >> WELL, IT WOULD BE FUNNY IF TE VEHICLES ARE FOR COASTAL PARKS, WHAT DEPARTMENT WOULD BE FUNDING IT? >> I DON'T KNOW. >> AND THEN INSURANCE, IF THERES AN INCREASE THERE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT. >> AND YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM, THAT'S THE 50,000 THAT THE COMMISSIONER WANTED TO INCREASE FOR LIFEGUARDS, AND I HAD NOT SEEN WHAT THE FINAL BILL LOOKS LIKE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED OF US AS FR AS, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPE OF SERVICE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVIDE ON THE BEACH BASED ON WHAT THE FINAL HUNTER BILL LOOKS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT. YOU KNOW, I DID TELL THE COMMISSIONER, I DON'T THINK I'VE TOLD YOU THIS, JUDGE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID PUSH UP TO JOEL, IF THERE WOULD BE A WAY THAT WE COULD GET THE LEGISLATUE TO FUND MORE FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE IMPEACH REIMBURSEMET PROGRAM, ALL THOSE DOLLARS THAT GO IN THAT PROGRAM ARE AVAILABLE TO -- FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR OUR LIFEGUARD PROGRAMS, BUT THEY JUT NEVER HAVE ENOUGH TO GO AROUND, AND SO I THOUGHT, MAN, THAT WOUD BE A WIN-WIN. BILL PASSES, AND ALL THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, BECAUSE TPWE GOT ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS TO COVR THEIR LIFE GUARD COSTS AND I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A WAY FOR US TO ELIGIBLE, BUT IT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE. >> YEAH. LIKE ANYTHING, I MEAN IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY NEXT GO-ROUND TO SEE IF WE COULD GET SOME FUNDING TO HELP DEFER. WE'RE SOMEWHAT LUCKY IN IT THAT WE'RE ALREADY SUPER PROACTIVE AD AGGRESSIVE ABOUT HOW WE HAVE HANDLED LIFEGUARDS, BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE -- WE'RE STILL GOING TO SEE A MAJOR UPTIK HERE. >> UH-HUH. >> SO THAT'S IT ON THAT PAGE. THE NEXT PAGE UNDER CONTRACT LEASE PAYMENTS, THE COUNTY HAD FOR THE MOTOR GRADER WE HAD, WE HAD 9553 TO COVER OUR LEASE PAYMENT. WE ACTUALLY INCREASED -- HAD TO -- WE HAD TO REQUEST A 200 -- $2,414 INCREASE FOR THAT, TO COVER THAT LEASE PAYMENT. LET'S SEE HERE. COPIER, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTRL OVER THAT. THEN YOU GET INTO THE CAPITAL OUTLAY. THIS IS JUST LIKE LAST YEAR. THESE ARE SIMPLE EQUIPMENT THINS THAT I NEED. THEY'RE NOT SO MUCH ANNUAL, THEY'RE JUST REPLACING WHAT WE'E GOT. TRAILER, ZERO TURN MOWERS. WE USE THOSE. 24-FOOT TRAILER. NOW, THIS IS -- THIS IS GOING TO THROW YOU OFF A BIT. THIS ONE AT THE BOTTOM, AND THIS IS -- LIKE I'VE SAID BEFORE, EVERYTHING THAT I COME TO YOU [02:50:01] WITH IS NEGOTIABLE, BUT THIS IS -- IS A WANT AND NOT NECESSARILY A IN NEED. WE HAVE NO WAY OF GETTING TO THE BACK OF THAT PROPERTY, THERE'S O WAY TO GET TO IT OFF M PARK ROAD 22 AND THAT'S 2000 ACRES OF THE 4,000 ACRES YOU HAVE OUT THERE, OTHER THAN TRYING TO WALK THROUGH IT WITH SNAKE CHAPS, WE DON'T HAVE ANYWAY OF GETTING BAK THERE. THAT WOULD PROVIDE US A WAY TO E ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS AND ACCESS THAT BACK BAY SHORELINE. AND YOU'VE GOT THE LAGUNA MADRE AND THEY CAN GET SOME WHAT WE CALL REAL SKINNY WATER. YOU WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO RUN A BOAT UP THERE OF ANY SIZE. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FLAT BOTTOMED, SIMPLE, A LITTLE OUTBOARD TO GET UP THERE. THIS IS A WANT AND NOT A NEED. YOU CAN MAKE A NOTE OF THAT. >> BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALWAYS LOOK FOR OTHER ALTERNATIVES AND MAYBE FIND SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO TAKE US OUT THERE IF WE CAN'T FIND SOMETHING. THEN ON THE NEXT SHEET, WE THOUGHT ABOUT -- THERE AGAIN, HERE'S A WANT, NOT A NEED. THE $50,000 ON THE 20 BY 30 EQUIPMENT BUILDING. AS YOU WELL KNOW, IT'S GETTING HARDER AND HARDER FOR US TO NAVIGATE PARK LOAD 22 OUT OF THT CHANNEL MAINTENANCE SHOP AND GET THE EQUIPMENT WE NEED OVER TO PADRE BAYOU. IT WOULD BE READY FOR US WHEN WE GET TO WORK IN THE MORNING, HOWEVER, JUST LIKE I DID WITH TE JANITORIAL LAST YEAR, IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T WANT TO DO, WE COULD LOOK AT MAYBE JUST RENTING A POD AND PARKING THE EQUIPMENT IN A POD BEHIND THE OFFICE. >> THAT'S ACTUALLY ECONOMICAL. >> I'M RUNNING BEHIND ON THE BEACH AMBASSADOR POSITION AND IT'S BECAUSE I TOOK THIS YEAR'S OPERATING BUDGET AND ORDERED ANOTHER GATOR AND I'M WAITING FR IT TO GET HERE SO THEY CAN DO THEIR JOB AS AN AMBASSADOR. >> THE POD YOU CAN PULL IT UP IN THE AFTERNOON AND MAKE SURE IT'S SECURE AND THEN IT'S READY TO GO THE NEXT MORNING. >> THIS IS JUST A GENERAL THOUGHT. I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE -- AGAIN, I ALMOST LAUGH, LIKE IN OUR SPARE TIME, BUT IT ALMOST WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE A CASH FLOW PROJECTION ON A ADVOLOREM. FOR EXAMPLE, WE COULD ACTUALLY GUESSTIMATE BASED ON CURRENT, LIKE YOU COULD SEE HOW MANY REAL FIRST HOMES THERE ARE THERE VERSUS, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS THERE ARE VERSUS NON. >> AS TO WHAT -- WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIKE IN THREE YEARS, THAT WAY WE ACTUALLY KNOW, BECAUSE THE GROWTH IS -- IT'S COMING, SCOTT, AND IT -- IT MAY HELP US FUND SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. >> OH, IT IF YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF PERMIT REQUESTS MEGAN IS GETTING, IT'S OFF THE CHARTS. >> THESE ARE LARGE SCALE PERMIT, NOT SMALL SCALE LIKE HOMES. WE'RE GETTING LARGE SCALE NOW. ARE THEY MAINLY IN PORT A. NO. THEY'RE IN NORTH PADRE AS WELL. WE HAVE SOME GUY RIGHT NOW WE'RE TRYING TO CALM DOWN BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT TO FOLLOW THE RULES. HE WANTS A HUGE HOTEL, RV PARK, A -- LIKE A RESORT NEAR WHERE MUSTANG TOWERS IN CORPUS CHRISTI. >> I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT, I KNOW IB MCGEE -- PADRE. >> WE'RE GOOD THERE. >> YEAH. >> OKAY. >> ON HERE, AND THERE ARE TWO OTHER THINGS THAT I NEED TO REALLY POINT OUT, AND THAT IS ON IB MCGEE, THAT'S NUMBER 5610, 60,000. I TALKED WITH MICHAEL, WHEN WE GET THAT BACK OPEN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT ALL NEW OFFICE FURNITURE IN THERE. IT GOT SO ROTTED AND MILDEWED, THE CONFERENCE TABLE, THE CHAIR, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE WAS NOTHING. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED ALL NEW OFFICE FURNITURE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER WE GT DONE WITH THE INSURANCE SETTLEMENT, YOU KNOW, THAT SHOUD COVER IT. >> I'M GOING TO NEED ALL OF THOE TO ADD TO THAT -- TO THE INSURANCE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, THIS BUDGET WORKSHEET IS A GREAT -- >> WHERE DO I SEND THAT TO? >> TO TIMOTHY EVEREST. >> AND TO ME. JUST COPY ME ON IT TOO. >> OKAY. AND, MICHAEL, I'VE TALKED WITH [02:55:04] MICHAEL IN PURCHASING. THEY DO HAVE A LOCAL VENDOR THAT THEY DO THAT DOESN'T DISTRIBUTE INDIVIDUAL OFFICE FURNITURE BUT THEY DO WHOLE OFFICE SETUPS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> YEAH. >> ALONG THE LINES, AT THE VERY BOTTOM THERE'S 5,000 FOR TWO COMPUTERS AND ONE PRINTER, AND THE CREDIT CARD MACHINE, THOSE GOT WASTED WHEN THE HURRICANE CAME, BECAUSE WHEN THE ROOF LEAKED IT ALL GOT WET. THOSE ARE HURRICANE RELATED DAMAGED ITEMS FROM HARVEY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE. >> I WAS THINKING TO MYSELF, THS IS LIKE A -- NOT THAT WE SHOULD EVER SMOKE. YOU ALMOST LIKE NEED A VICE TO LISTEN TO BUDGET WORKSHOP ALL DY LONG. >> OKAY. >> YOU NEED TO LIKE SMOKE OR DRINK. I MEAN, THIS IS -- DOES IT GET - IS THERE ANY GOOD NEWS ANYWHERE? >> WELL, I DO HAVE AN IDEA, AFTR I'M FINISHED. >> OKAY. >> LIKE ON THE BUDGET PAGE IT'S SHOWING ZERO CAPITAL OUTLAY. >> HUH? >> 1785 FOR CAPITAL? >> LET ME COME LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT SO I CAN MAKE SURE I'M LOOKING AT THE RIGHT THING. >> IT'S NOT GOING TO BE 178.5. >> IT ALL EQUALS OUT, SCOTT. >> DON'T WORRY. THIS IS ALL NEW TO ME. LISA WAS DRIVING ME CRAZY. >> THE BUDGET FOR 2021 SHOWS -- >> IN A GOOD WAY. >> NUMBERS BELOW IT, 5,000, 12,000, 18,000. ALL THOSE ADD UP TO THE 175. RIGHT, BUT IT'S SHOWING ZERO BUDGET FOR CAPITAL OUTLAY. >> WE HAVE TO ZERO OUT THE BEGINNING BASE BUDGET BECAUSE TE GENERAL FUND, THE BASE BUDGET IS ZERO FOR EVERYBODY, SO THAT'S HW WE HAVE TO DO IT FOR THE SYSTEM. >> RIGHT. BUT THE NET OF HIS INCREASE WILL ONLY BE 74,000. >> ONCE WE GET ALL THE STUFF NEEDED TO BE DONE, THEN WHATEVER THE BUDGET IS, ABOUT -- BUT THE THEORETICALLY. >> DID THAT HELP YOU? >> NO. OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT, DALE WILL FIGURE T OUT. >> SO, OKAY, NOW IN THIS SAME -- HERE'S THE DEAL. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, COMMISSIONERS, THE WAY WE PARTICIPATE IN THE BEACH REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM, WE CAN'T CO-MINGLE ANY OF OUR FUNDS THAT WE USE FOR BEACH MAINTENANCE AND FACILITIES AND STUFF THAT WE DO THAT'S ELIGIBLE FOR BEACH MAINTENANCE WITH OTHER FUNDING SOURCES, SO REALLY 180 KIND OF ADDRESSES A LOT OF THE COST THAT WE HAVE WITH PERSONNEL, MAINTENANCE, TRASH, BEACH CLEANP AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND THEN 181 PICKS UP A LOT OF OTHER STUFF AND 182 IS FOR BOB HALL PIER. I WANTED TO MAKE THE DISTINCTION. THERE IS SOME PERSONNEL TH THINGS I ASKED FOR AND LET ME GT TO THAT PAGE. >> I SEE IT. >> ONE OF THE THINGS I DID. >> OH. AM I AHEAD OF Y'ALL. >> SO I'M JUST TRYING TO TURN TO THE RIGHT PAGE. >> IT'S THE VERY LAST ONE. >> ONE OF THE THINGS I'M REQUESTING IS TO ADDRESS THE NATURAL RESOURCE SPECIALIST 2 POSITION. JUDGE, IF YOU RECALL, WHEN WE HIRED HER, WE KNEW WE WERE BRINGING HER IN AT WELL BELOW MARKET RATE, AND WE DISCUSSED IT AND I DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AT THAT TIME TO EVEN COUNTEROFFR HER, BUT THE CONCEPT THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED AS TO TRY TO FIX THAT, THIS BUDGET YEAR, AND SO THAT'S REFLECTED THERE, AND THEN THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR'S POSITION, I GOT TO LOOKING AT IT AFTER THE LAST FISCAL YEAR AND I THOUGHT, WELL, SOMETHING IS OFF THERE. WELL, ACTUALLY THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WHEN -- WHEN IT WAS PROMOTED TO ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, IS CURRENTLY CLASSIFIED AS A PAY GROUP 26, AND UNDER -- ON THE NCF-ONE, BUT THE ACTUAL APPROVED ASSISTANT DIRECTOR POSITION AND JOB TITLE IS CLASSIFIED AS A PAY GROUP 29, AND SO I'M ASKING TO FIX THAT. NOW, I'VE GOT TO GET THAT INFORMATION ALSO OVER TO JULIE O SHE CAN REVIEW IT, WHICH I HAVEN'T DONE, BUT I NEEDED TO GT IT IN HERE FOR THIS BUDGET REQUEST RIGHT NOW. AND THEN I DID -- HERE IS A WANT AND NOT A NEED RIGHT HERE. ON THE NATURAL RESOURCE 1 POSITION, I'M REQUESTING TO TURN IT INTO AN FTE. THAT'S A WANT AND NOT A NEED. IN THE PAST THAT POSITION HAD BEEN APPROVED UNDER -- THE COURT APPROVED ME, AND IT'S BEEN VACAT [03:00:02] FOR TWO YEARS NOW, A YEAR? >> SO I NEVER USED, YOU KNOW, AL OF THAT PREAPPROVED, AND SO THAT'S A WANT THAT I'M ASKING FR TO TURN IT INTO AN FTE. IF YOU DECIDE THERE'S NOTHING YU CAN DO RIGHT NOW, THAT'S NO PROBLEM AND WE CAN LIVE WITH THAT. >> THAT'S 180. AND THEN WE GO TO 181. OH, THE CLERKS. THE CLERKS. I'M SORRY. >> I DID REQUEST A -- IT'S CALLD A STEP, RIGHT? >> I DID REQUEST A ONE STEP UP FOR THE CLERKS. AND LET ME TELL YOU WHY I DID THAT SO I CAN BE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT. I DID THAT BECAUSE ONE OF THE THING THAT OUR CLERKS HAVE TO DO THAT ARE VERY UNIQUE TO OTHER CLERKS IS THEY HAVE TO ROTATE AD TRAVEL AROUND. SOMETIMES THEY'RE WORKING AT PADRE BAYOU AND THEY'RE ALWAYS MOVING. BECAUSE OF OUR CLERK POOL WE HAE TO SPREAD THEM AROUND TO COVER THE SHIFTS. WE RUN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 7:30 N THE MORNING UNTIL 11:00 AT NIGHT. THE ONLY TWO DAYS OF THE YEAR WE'RE CLOSED IS CHRISTMAS DAY, THANKSGIVING DAY AND NEW YEARS DAY. >> OTHER THAN THAT WE'RE OUT THERE ALL THE HOLIDAYS. I DID THAT AS A WAY TO TRY TO HELP THEM PER INDIVIDUAL. IT'S A VERY SMALL JUMP IN TOTAL. IN TOTAL IT'S 5,000 AND SOME CHANGE. I DID THAT TO HELP THEM BECAUSEI KNOW WHAT'S COMING AHEAD, ESPECIALLY WITH THESE FUEL PRICS AND THEY HAVE TO DRIVE THEIR POVS TO THESE LOCATIONS AND IF THERE WAS SOME WAY FOR ME TO TRY TO GET THE COURT TO HELP OUT ON THAT. THEY'RE UNIQUE IN THAT THEY ROTATE AND TRAVEL UNLIKE ANY OTHER CLERK IN THE COUNTY THAT'S ASSIGNED TO SPECIFIC LOCATIONS. THAT'S WHY I DID THAT. >> I DID THAT ASK. >> SO 181, IN SALARIES TEMP, I REQUESTED 15 TO SUPPORT THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM FOR NEXT SUMMER THAT I PRESENTED HERE IN COURT. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WILL BE THT MUCH. YOUR BEST CASE SCENARIO IF WE COULD GET TWO OR THREE GRADUATE LEVEL INTERNS FOR A SUMMER, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. DON'T FORGET, WE'RE GOING TO HAE TO GET A POLICY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, SINCE WE DON'T CURRENTLY PAY INTERNS. IT'S SOMETHING WE'LL WANT TO WOK WITH JULIE ON AND ON HR AND POTENTIALLY LEGAL. JUST -- IT'S NOT HARD. >> OKAY. I SUPPORT IT PARTICULARLY IN THS PROGRAM, BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING NATIONAL LEVEL. >> I'VE ALWAYS COUNTED THEM AT TEMP EMPLOYEES, BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS HAD A REALLY GOOD -- THE COUNTIES ALWAYS MADE SURE I HADA GOOD HEALTHY TEMP SALARY. >> THAT'S A BETTER WAY OF LOOKIG AT IT IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO CHANGE YOUR POLICY. >> OKAY. >> WE ARE -- I MEAN, EVEN THOUGH -- JUDGE, THEY GOT RID OF THE SEASONAL EMPLOYEE DESIGNATIN YEARS AGO. >> UH-HUH. AND SO WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS YEARS AGO, BECAUSE I AM SEASONAL IN THE SUMMER, AND THERE WAS THS ISSUE UNDER THE EMPLOYER MANDATE UNDER THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, AND PEOPLE WERE LIKE, NO, YOU'RE LIMITED TO 29 HOURS AND I'M LIK, NO, THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND IRS HAVE PROVIDED A RULING THAT IF YOU HAVE A SEASON AND YOU HAE SEASONAL EMPLOYEES YOU CAN WORK THEM AT 50 PERCENT EFFORT OR GREATER, BUT NO MORE THAN FOUR AND A HALF MONTHS. MY TEMPS KIND OF FUNCTION AS A SEASONAL, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE THE SEASONAL ANYMORE. I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD USE SEASONAL, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE WOULD OR NOT. >> OKAY. >> SO THAT WAS IN THERE AND 181. WE ASKED FOR 30,000 INCREASE TO COVER ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE NATURE TRAIL PARK AND CALDWELL PIER. LET'S SEE HERE. WE ASKED FOR AN INCREASE TO COVR ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING AND DESIN FEES, A SMALL AMOUNT THERE, IT'S NOT MUCH. AND THEN M-181 IS THE 10 YEAR ANNUAL STATE OWNED LEASE THAT WE PAID TO THE GLO. THAT'S IN THERE. SO WE HAD THAT IN THERE AND THAT -- LET'S SEE HERE. WE'LL MAKE SURE. I THINK THAT WAS IT ON THAT PAGE. >> YEAH, THAT WAS IT. THIS WAS ALL ON 181. THEN 182, THE ONLY THING WE ASKD FOR IN THERE IS EVEN THOUGH THE PIER IS NOT RUNNING, BOB HALL, AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT OPEN, E DO HAVE OUR ANNUAL LEASE PAYMENT FOR THAT SUB SERVICE LEASE EVERY YEAR. WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT. WE KEEP THE ANNUAL LEASE PAYMEN, IT'S REFLECTED IN THERE UNDER 182. THAT'S THE ONLY INCREASE IN 182 IS COCOVER THAT. >> SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS. OBVIOUSLY THE SALARIES -- OR MAYBE THIS IS BETTER TO DALE. [03:05:03] THE SALARIES THAT ARE ATTRIBUTED TO THIS, I MEAN, THOSE DON'T GO AWAY, WE JUST KIND OF CONTINUE O PARCEL OUT TO THE DIFFERENT ARES OR -- >> YEAH, 181 IS MORE OF THE TEMPORARY SERVICES OR AS HE SAY, MORE SEASONAL, BUT I REMEMBER IT WAS EITHER OUR ATTORNEY OR THE OTHER ATTORNEY SAYS, WE CAN'T QUALIFY THEM AS SEASONAL IN THE WAY THEY WORK, BUT I KNOW SCOTT WILL DEFINITELY WORK THOSE THROUGH WHAT HE NEEDS TO FOR COVERING MOST OF THE BEACH AREA, BUT 180 IS WHERE MOST OF IT OPERATES OUT OF. >> THERE WAS A REQUEST THAT CAME IN, WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO DELVE INTO THIS, AND I'M NOT SUE WE HAVE TO PUT IT IN THE BUDGET, BUT WE CERTAINLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT. AND LIGHTS OUT THERE. WE'VE LOST IT ALL. MAYBE SOME SORT OF PUBLIC LIGHTING FOR PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY. WHERE? >> ON THE PIER. YEAH, THAT'S GOING TO BE HARD, BECAUSE THEY TOOK DOWN THE TRANSFORMER POLE AND EVERYTHING -- >> THEY DID. THERE'S NO TRANSFORMER, BUT WE WERE THINKING SOLAR. WE WERE THINKING -- WE WERE LOOKING AT SOME MODULAR. >> ON THE END YOU MEAN -- >> UH-HUH. >> THEY'VE GOT GREAT LUMENS. THIS CAME FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT. BOBBY AND -- LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT IT. >> OKAY. >> WE DON'T HAVE TO BUDGET IT, I JUST WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT IT AND I WANT THE COMMISSIONERS TO HEAR WE SAID IT NOW AS OPPOSED O WHY DIDN'T YOU BRING IT BACK. SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A REAL PLAN YET, BUT IF YOU COULD ACTUALLY PROTECT FROM THE CAUSTIC NATURE OF THE SALT, THAT'S THE OTHER PROBLEM. ARE THE SOLAR LIGHTS CAPABLE OF -- >> WHY DON'T I CHECK WITH TEX-DT AND SEE WHAT THEY'VE GOT. >> THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I'M SURE THEY'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS. I'LL SHE WH SEE WHAT I CAN COME UP WITH. >> HERE'S MY OUTSIDE THE BOX IDEA. >> OKAY. SO THIS IS WHAT I'M THINKING. DALE, HEAR ME OUT BEFORE YOU SHT ME DOWN. >> IN 182 IT CURRENTLY HAS $191,000 FOR THIS BUDGET YEAR IN IT. WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH I, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT OPERATING THE PIER. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO NEED TO FUND 182 FOR 2-3 YEARS. WE COULD USE SOME OF WHAT'S IN 182 RIGHT NOW TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THESE NEEDS THAT WE NEED AND ELIMINATE A LOT OF STUFF OUT OF OUR BUDGET REQUESTS. THEN WE COULD COME BACK AND WE FIGURE, COME BACK, REFUND 182 -- >> IT'S GONE. IT'S GONE. >> COME BACK AND REFUND IT WHEN WE'RE READY TO OPEN BACK UP AND HERE'S THE KICKER. WHEN WE STARTED RUNNING THE PIE, NOT THE RESTAURANT, BUT WHEN WE STARTED RUNNING THE PIER, WE TOK ABOUT $68,000 AND STARTED UP OUR OPERATION. NOW, THAT WASN'T A FULL YEAR, BT BY THE TIME WE GOT THROUGH THAT YEAR WE WERE MAKING ENOUGH REVENUE TO WHERE IT PAID FOR THE NEXT YEAR'S OPERATING COSTS AND NETTED US A FUND BALANCE AND THAT'S WHEN I SAT DOWN WITH DALE AND ELVA AND WE SAID OKAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO CARRY A FUND BALANCE, IT'S GOING TO GO BACK O 181 OR 180 TO REDUCE OUR DEPENDENCY THERE. WE'VE DONE OUR CALCULATIONS AND WE THINK TWO OR THREE YEARS NOW, GIVEN ECONOMY OF SCALE WE COULD TAKE $125,000 AND START THE PIER OPERATION UP AGAIN AND BY THE ED OF THE YEAR WE WOULD HAVE PAID FOR IT AND PAID FOR THE NEXT YEAR'S OPERATION. JUST A CRAZY IDEA. WELL, I MEAN, THE -- PARTIALLY I THINK IT MAKES SENSE, BASICALLY YOU COULD REAPPROPRIATE THIS YEAR'S FUNDS. BUT TYPICALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE DON'T NORMALLY APPROPRIATE THAT WHICH WE WOULDN'T USE FOR SUBSEQUENT YEARS, SCOTT, BUT FOR THIS YEAR THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHIG WE COULD DO, DALE, BUT NOT FOR SUBSEQUENT YEARS. >> I THINK IT'S GETTING MESSY. I WOULDN'T MESS WITH DOING THAT STUFF. IF THERE'S THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED THAT WE CAN USE TE FUNDS FOR TO SUPPLE SUPPLEMENT, WE -- I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I WOULDN'T -- I WOULDN'T ADVOCAE THAT. I THINK YOU'RE GETTING INTO AN ACCOUNTING MESS, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE PLENTY OF HOLES IN YOUR BUDGET THAT'S GOING TO COME THROUGH THAT YOU'RE GOING TO COE ASK ME FOR THAT I'M GOING TO BE OUT OF MONEY BECAUSE I'M USING T ALL NOW IN IB MCGEE. YOU NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND TOO. I'M RUNNING LOW ON FUNDS BASED N ALL THESE REQUESTS. >> ME AND THERESA TALKED LAST WEEK. WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO PULL 27,000 OUT FOR THE CHANGE ORDER YOU ALL APPROVED. WE DON'T HAVE 27,000. >> THE DEPARTMENT HAS $11,000 IN IT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. >> PERIOD. [03:10:01] >> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO FILL IN HOLES. >> THE BUDGET MEANS FOR THAT -- WE SHOW ZERO, BUT WE WERE HOPING THAT WE WOULD HAVE PROCESSED THS AND WE WANT THROUGH FEMA OR STARTED WORKING CONSTRUCTION TO -- SO THE THEORETICALLY THE BUDGET SHOULD BE ZERO, OTHER THN WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED FOR THE PROPERTY FROM GLO, BUT THEORETICALLY, THE FUNDS IN THE DEPARTMENT IS $11,000. >> THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE. >> ALL I CAN DO IS -- >> I KNOW. DON'T WORRY. I MEAN, LOOK, I MEAN, LOOK, I THINK IN I CAN TAKE A VARIATION OFF YOUR THEME AND CHANGE IT UPA BIT, I THINK WHAT THE BETTER ARGUMENT IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVEA SAVINGS, A SAD SAVINGS, BUT WE'E NOT GIVE TO HAVE ANY EXPENSES. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE VERY MINIMAL EXPENSES OVER THE NEXT TWO YEAR, AND THAT COULD HELP US DEFER, RIGHT, YOU KNOW TWO ANOTHER AREA. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT THEORY IS THAT TYPICALLY WE HAVE $750,000 REVENUE. WE'RE LOSING, RIGHT, IT'S HARD O SAY WE'RE WINNING, BUT HAVING SAID THAT, LOOK, THERE'S -- THERE'S JUST A LOT OF GOOD OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE FOR US TO, AS YOU SAID, WHEN WE CATCH UP, WE'RE GOING TO CATCH UP IN A BIG WAY. >> UH-HUH. >> AND THEN WE WON'T LOOK BACK. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE TOUGH, YOU KNOW, FOR THE NEXT 24 MONTHS. >> YOUR PADRE BAYOU EXPANSION -- >> I'M NOT TRYING TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE, BUT I HAVE DUMB MEANTED A SUPPLEMENTED A LOT OF THINGS, HAPPILY AND GLADLY, BUT BECAUSE OF THE INCREDIBLE SUPPLEMENT I'M HAVING TO DO, I'M NOT TRYING TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE. YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU CALL ME, YOU NEED SOMETHING, I TAKE CARE OF IT. I'M GETTING NERVOUS HOW MUCH WE'RE SPENDING ON IB MCGEE. HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOME BACK SOMEDAY, BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP REFURBISH IT. AND I WANT TO SUPPORT COASTAL PARKS AS MUCH AS I CAN AND I WIL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. I WOULDN'T MESS WITH THAT STUFF. JUDGE SAID IT A DIFFERENT WAY. I THINK WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING IN A DIFFERENT WAY. WE'RE LOSING MONEY OUT THERE. REMEMBER, YOU MAY HAVE A BALANCE IN THERE NOW, BUT WE ARE LOSING MONEY BY THAT PIER BEING CLOSED AND WE ARE LOSING MONEY BY MICHAEL MAY'S BEING CLOSED. YOU MAY HAVE A SURPLUS AT THE MOMENT, BUT THAT'S GOING TO GO AWAY, BECAUSE WE'RE LOSING MONEY AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THE PIER IS NT GOING TO BE OPEN FOR THREE YEARS AND MICHAEL MAY'S, MAYBE THREE AND A HALF OR MORE. >> BY THE WAY, I THINK THE GOVERNMENT -- I HAD THIS LIGHTBULB GO OFF DURING OUR BREK ON A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ISSUE. I THINK THE GOVERNMENT IS SO FOOLISH FOR NOT PUTTING OUR AWAD IN RIGHT NOW. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IF WE WEE TO HAVE, GOD FORBID ANOTHER STOM AND IT TAKES OUT THE PIER, YOU REALIZE THEY'RE ON THE HOOK FOR THE ENTIRE LOT OF IT, BECAUSE WHAT THEIR CLAIM IS THAT THAT PIER IS NOT SUBSTANTIALLY. >> DAMAGED. >> DAMAGED, RIGHT? >> WOW. >> YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. ANYMORE DAMAGE TO THE PIER PUTS THEM ON THE HOOK FOR THE WHOLE ENCHILADA. AND I REALLY THINK IT'S SUPER -- THIS IS WHY THEY DON'T UNDERSTAD COAST AND COASTAL ENVIRONMENTS. VERY, VERY FOOLISH OF THEM NOT O HELP US HERE. IT'S A BIG GAMBLE IN AN EXTREME WEATHER -- >> ON MANY FRONTS. ON MANY FRONTS. BUT HAVING SAID THAT, LOOK, I THINK WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, WE'E EXCITED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF COASTAL PARKS BECAUSE IT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET TONS OF DOLLARS BACK. THIS WILL NOT MAKE US GANG BUSTR MONEY, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE RENOVATIONS AND THE COST ESTIMATES THAT YOU COULD BRING O THE COURT REGARDING BRISCOE KING PAVILION COULD HELP OFFSET, FOR EXAMPLE, THE 18,000. IF YOU RENTED THE KING PAVILION FOR -- WHAT DO YOU RENT IT FOR A DAY? >> 600 FOR PROFIT AND I THINK YU COULD DOUBLE THAT. >> YOU COULD DOUBLE THAT FOR AC MAYBE. OH, YEAH. >> FOR A CERTAIN -- YOU KNOW. OR TELL THEM, WE'LL MAKE IT 600 IF YOU TURN OFF THE AC. >> BUT I MEAN, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS, RIGHT? >> NO. >> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THE AC ON. >> I JUST HAD AN IDEA, I THREW T OUT THERE. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS THERE, WHAT WAS NOT. >> NO, NO, NO. I MEAN, IT'S -- >> IT'S ALL GOOD. >> IT'S ALL GOOD. WE'VE GOT A REAL OPPORTUNITY HEE TO MAKE -- >> I THINK, YOU KNOW, HAVING IB MCGEE NOW OPEN AND IT IS FULL, IT IS RUNNING, THE OCCUPANCY RAE OUT THERE IS OFF THE CHARTS. WITH PADRE EXPANSION, YOU KNOW, YEAH, IT HURTS THAT BOB HALL PIR IS DOWN, BUT I MEAN -- >> I ALSO WANT TO SAY ON IB MCGEE. WE KNEW THAT THE BUDGET THAT WE PUT FORTH WAS FOR -- AND WE FUNDED WITH CO-2019. [03:15:06] WE KNEW THAT WAS A LOW AMOUNT. I HEARD YOU THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE MORE LIKE A $2 MILLION PROJET RATHER THAN A $1.6 MILLION PROJECT. THE WAY IT WORKS AROUND HERE IS WE CAN ONLY FUND THAT WHICH WE HAVE A CONTRACT FOR AND SO WE KNEW THIS ONE WAS GOING TO BE A WEIRD ONE. SO I THINK THAT CO-2021 AND -- O WHATEVER EXTENT, THE NEXT 100,00 COMES IN THIS WAY, IS GOING TO HELP MAKE UP THAT DEFICIT. AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, YOU'RE NOT IN TROUBLE HERE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN DISCLOSING TRANSPARENTLY THE WHOLE TIME, BT UNFORTUNATELY IT WASN'T -- WE COULDN'T MAKE A COST ESTIMATE UNTIL THE WALLS GOT PEELED BACK. >> YEP. >> THERE'S ALSO SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S GOING TO BE POSITIVE THAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING. WORKING WITH MARIA TO GET OUR FEMA REIMBURSEMENT ON ALL THE ELECTRICAL IMPROVEMENTS. THAT GOTTA PROVED UNDER HURRICAE HARVEY AND FEMA. THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK. THAT'S LIKE 245, 200 -- >> IT'S SIGNIFICANT, 245, YEAH. SO THAT'S GOING TO HELP SOMEWHERE. WE USED CO MO MONEY TO RECOVER IB MCGEE. HOWEVER IT COMES BACK AND WHEREVER IT GOES TO, Y'ALL JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT TO GO SOMEWHERE. >> CORRECT. SO, SCOTT, I MEAN, DOES THAT KID OF GIVE US -- >> THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO MY THING -- I WOULD HAVE TO BRING BACK TO YOU, I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH DIEDRA, RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FIGURING OUT WHERE WE'RE AT AFTR LAST YEAR'S STORM SEASON, BUT HERE'S THE KICKER. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANNUAL SURVEY DATA, THIS IS A BIG IF. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANNUAL SURVEY DATA WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE A MAJR STORM AND IT WOULD IMPACT YOUR SHORELINE AND ANY DUNES DETERIORATION LIKE HANNAH DID. >> FEMA WILL DO BEACH RENOURISH. MENT, BUT YOU HAVE TO SAY, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT. >> I SAID, HEY, LOOK. WE DID A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING WITH THE LAST ONE THE COURT APPROVED, THAT WAS THE BIG ONE. IT WAS TO FILL A LOT OF GAPS AND A LOT OF DATA. HOW DO WE BUILD OFF THAT AT A LESSER COST AND TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE DATA COLLECTION. I THINK THE DATA COLLECTION IS REALLY IMPORTANT, AND SO ANYHOW. I NEED TO KNOW IF YOU -- IF THE COURT WOULD EVEN CONSIDER ME BRINGING SOMETHING BACK, YOU KNOW, TO TAKE A LOOK AT BEFORE YOU FINALIZE YOUR BUDGET. >> OKAY. >> JUST LET ME KNOW. >> OKAY. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. >> OKAY. THANKS. >> ALL RIGHTY. >> SCOTT, THE LEASE AGREEMENT, HOW MUCH WAS THAT? >> IT WAS 6377. >> LISA IS THE ONE WHO HELPED ME PUT THAT IN THERE. >> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. I'M ON TIME. >> YOU DID WELL. >> YEAH, YOU'RE 15 EARLY. >> THAT'S GREAT. >> OKAY. SO GIVE US JUST A SECOND, CHESNEY, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HD TO STEP OUT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THREE COMMISSIONERS AND WE'RE A LITTLE AHEAD OF TIME, BUT I'M GLAD THE MCDC IS HERE. GIVE US JUST A MOMENT. >> OKAY. WE'VE GOT THREE NOW. >> SO GIVE ME JUST A SECOND SO I CAN GET THESE FROM MAGGIE. [03:21:17] WELL, WELCOME. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON THIS AFTERNOON TO DEPARTMENT 1389, AD HERE WITH US TO HELP GO OVER THT BUDGET ARE A TRIO, BUT HOLDEN, F IF YOU WANT TO, WHOEVER WANTS TO PRESENT, WE HAVE CINDY WHO IS THE CHAIRWOMAN AND JOINING HER S DIRECTOR HOLDEN HOPKINS AND JOHN BRYER, HE'S BEEN WORKING WITH NCDC SINCE ITS INCEPTION. LET US JUST KIND OF GET TO THE RIGHT PAGE NUMBER AND THEN YOU ARE SO WELCOME TO BEGIN. I SHOW IT AS 809. >> 808. 808. >> LET ME GO BACK ONE. >> OKAY. >> WELCOME, CINDY. GOOD AFTERNOON, SO GOOD TO BE HERE AND NOT WEARING A MASK. GREAT TO SEE EVERYBODY'S FACE. >> I JUST WANTED TO BRING GREETINGS ON BEHALF OF THE REST OF THE NCDC COMMISSION. WE WANTED TO EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE FOR THE CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR OUR ORGANIZATION AND WHAT A YEAR IT'S BEEN. IN THE MIDDLE OF COVID, JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW AND YOU ARE ALREADY AWARE, WE DID NT SLOW DOWN. WE HAD TO PIVOT JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. WE REMAIN CONSTANT WITH OUR MEETINGS AND THE LEVEL OF ACTIVITY THAT OUR STAFF HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN, WE COULD NOT BE MOE PROUD. HOLDEN WILL OF COURSE COVER THE BUDGET, BUT I WANTED TO EXPRESS HOW GRATEFUL WE ARE FOR ALL OF THE SUPPORT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM YOU, JUDGE CANALES AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTINUED SUPPORT AS WE CONTINUE TO BRING EXCITING PROJECTS TO NUECES COUNTY. >> THANK YOU. >> CINDY? >> A LITTLE COMPANY, JUST A LITTLE COMPANY YOU HELPED BRING ALONG. >> A SOM SMALL TINY COMPANY. >> AMAZON. IT WAS JUST FANTASTIC. WHAT A WAY TO START, YOU KNOW, AND BRING SUCH AN AMAZING NAME O THE COUNTY AND WE WERE EXCITED FOR THE COLLABORATION. OUR STAFF HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE. THEY DON'T GET THE PRAISE THEY DESERVE. THEY WORK BEHIND THE SCENES AND THEY'RE SO HUMBLE AND WORK DILIGENTLY AND BECAUSE OF THAT DEDICATION, WE HAVE A LOT OF EXCITING PROJECTS WE HAVE TO BE ANNOUNCING IN THE UPCOMING YEAR AS WELL. AND LET ME JUST POINT OUT, I THINK IT WAS EVEN BEFORE AMAZON, BUT EVEN SINCE, I'VE HAD A LOT F PEOPLE ASK ME AND I NEED TO PASS THOSE NAMES ALONG TO THE JUDGE. THIS IS THE ORGANIZATION THAT PEOPLE WANT TO BE A PART OF. LIKE THERE ARE A LOT OF NAMES THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT THEY WAT TO BE A PART OF THIS TEAM, A PAT OF YOUR GROUP, A PART OF YOUR COMMISSION. >> WE'RE SO PLEASED TO HEAR THAT. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE WE'RE NOT HERE TO COMPETE WITH ANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, WE WANT TO BE A COLLABORATIVE PARTNER, BUT OUR EMPHASIS IS NUECES COUNTY. WE'RE THE ONLY ORGANIZATION THAT'S COMMITTED TO THE COUNTY T A WHOLE. WE'RE GLAD TO HEAR THAT PEOPLE ARE RECOGNIZING THE NAME MORE AD THEY WANT TO BE A PART OF WHAT WOULD WE'RE DOING AND CONTINUE O SUPPORT OUR WORK. >> IN THAT VEIN, CINDY, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION RECENTLY, BUT I KNW ORIGINALLY THE THOUGHT WAS, OKA, SO THERE'S SO MANY SLOTS FOR COMMISSIONERS AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAD TRANSPARENCY, SO WE ASKED PEOPLE TO BE FROM TEXAS A&M, ET CETERA. BUT THEN IF PEOPLE WANTED TO BE INVOLVED, BUT THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY IN THE ROLE OF COMMISSIONER, COULDN'T THEY BE APPOINTED BY YOU GUYS INSIDE A COMMITTEE? >> ABSOLUTELY. [03:25:01] >> SO IF YOU COULD GET THOSE NAMES, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU GT YOUR NAME UP SO THAT THE NEXT TIME -- AND I BELIEVE IN MOVING, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE SHOULD STICK AROUND AND THEN SAY, HEY, LET ME MOVE ON. MAYBE I'LL GO CHAIR A COMMITTEE. >> RIGHT. WE JUST ADDED A THIRD COMMITTEE, SO WE ARE DEFINITELY LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO SUPPOT THOSE EFFORTS. CURRENTLY WE HAVE OUR ECONOMIC RECOVERY COMMITTEE. WE HAVE OUR MARKETING AND PUBLIC RELATIONS COMMITTEE, AND NOW A FUNDRAISING COMMITTEE. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO GET TO WORK WITH THAT GROUP AS WELL, SO PLEASE DO SEND OVER NAMES. WE'LL BE HAPPY TO HAVE THEM. >> THAT'S GREAT. >> OKAY. WELL, HOLDEN, WE'VE BEEN REALLY GREAT ON TIME. WE WANT YOU TO TAKE US THROUGH AND THEN OFFER COMMENTS ALONG TE WAY. >> SURE. >> THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME TO DO THIS. DON'T BE NERVOUS. JUST SO YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THIS S INFORMAL, BUT THIS IS OUR FIRST STAB AT GETTING TO SEE WHAT YOU LOOK -- WHAT THIS PROJECTION IS AND THEN DALE WILL ACTUALLY GO THROUGH IT, TRY TO MAKE HIS EDITS, HE MIGHT CALL YOU AND ASK FOR MORE BACKUP DATA, BUT THIS S YOUR SHOT AT TELLING US WHAT YOU NEED. >> I SENT A LAST MINUTE UPDATE O LISA. I DON'T KNOW IF WE GOT THAT. IT CAME IN LATE, BUT I HAVE IT HERE. I CAN WALK THROUGH THAT. >> I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP AND TAK ABOUT WHAT THIS IS ALL BEEN -- YOU KNOW, GOING TOWARDS WITH THE NCDC STAFF. YOU KNOW, WE'VE -- WE REALLY -- LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, IT CAME OUT OF LAST YEAR BEFORE WE REALY HAD A FULL-TIME STAFF. HONESTLY REALLY IMPRESSIVE BECAUSE IT'S COME REALLY CLOSE O MEETING OUR NEEDS AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO A LOT OF GREAT THINGS THIS YEAR. >> OBVIOUSLY OPERATING IN A STAE OF FLUX LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD WITH COVID AND ALSO OPERATING AS A NEW ORGANIZATION, BUT, YOU KNOW, BUILDING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, WORKING WITH PARTNERS, OBVIOUSLY THE AMAZON PROJECT BEING A BIG ONE, AND JUT HAD A GREAT, GREAT MEETING YESTERDAY TO FIGURE OUT KIND OF WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THAT AMAZON PROJECT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT INVESTMENT IS FELT BY RESIDENTS OF ROBSTOWN AND OUR RURAL OASIS COUNTY. >> AND ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BE A PART OF IT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT TRAINING AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE SURE THE JOS ARE -- WELL, THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO COUNTY RESIDENTS BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE HELPING THE ENTIRE COUNTY HERE. >> AND WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING O GATHER TOGETHER A LOT OF THE DAA ON A LOT OF PROJECTS THE COUNTY HAS BEEN IN ON, GET THAT ALL TOGETHER FROM THE COURTHOUSE AND RIGHT-OF-WAY REDEVELOPMENT TO BB HALL PIER TO THE COUNTY AIRPORT, JUST KIND OF TRYING TO FIGURE OT EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON AND BRING TOGETHER DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE HAD A DIVERSE ARRAY OF HOMS UNDER ONE ROOF AT TOWER TWO AND OUR CLERK HAS BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THAT. AND SO -- WE'VE ALSO GOT, I WOUD SAY IN THE PAST TWO MONTHS AND THIS IS REALLY PICKING UP WHICH IS EXCITING. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NET WE'RE BECAUSE JUST IN THE PAST TWO MONTHS, WE'VE HAD FOUR MORE NEW POTENTIAL PROJECTS POP UP AD WE ONLY ANTICIPATE THAT RATE TO PICK UP FURTHER, NOT ANY DETAILS THAT I CAN SHARE YET OUTSIDE OF THE CODE NAMES WE'RE GIVING THEE PROJECTS UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT UMBRELLA, BUT REALL, REALLY EXCITING STUFF. AS WE GROW, THE NCDC AND OUR FUNDRAISING WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE OF THESE. HOLDEN, I'M GOING TO INTERJECT. ALTHOUGH HE CAN'T TELL YOU, NOT THAT HE DON'T DOESN'T WANT TO, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU SHOULD KNOW WE'RE VYING FOR THEE PROJECTS. SO WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT THAT OR NCDC, YOU KNOW, SIT THERE AND REALLY ADVOCATE, BECAUSE OTHERWISE THERE'S NO ONE TO BEAT THE DRUM FOR US, AND THEY MIGHT BE MISSING AN ELEMENT IN THEIR THOUGHT PROCESSES, SO DO THEY REPRESENT -- I MEAN, I THINK I REMEMBER THEM, BUT DO THEY REPRESENT A DIVERSITY, IT'S NOT JUST ENERGY BUSINESSES. >> NO, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT -- WITHOUT GETTING INTO TOO MANY DETAILS. >> DON'T REVEAL IT AND GET IN TROUBLE. >> I WOULD SAY THEY REALLY REPRESENT ONE OF THE CORE MISSIONS OF THE NCDC WHICH IS ECONOMIC DIVERSIFICATION. ALL OF THE INVESTMENTS WE HAVE ARE GREAT, BUT WE WANT TO BE ABE REMEAND FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE FUTURE RESIDENTS OF NUECES COUNTY. EACH ONE OF THESE FOUR PROJECTS IS IN A TOTALLY DIFFERENT INDUSTRY, SO THAT'S THE REALLY EXCITING PART TOO. IT'S NOT AS THOUGH WE'RE RUNNING FOUR OF THE SAME TYPE OF DEALS, EACH ONE IS DIFFERENT AND EACH ONE IS FUN IN ITS OWN WAY. WE REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO WORKIG ON THOSE AS THOSE DEVELOP AND TE NEW ONES THAT ARE GOING TO POP UP. WE LOVE KEEPING A BUNCH OF BALLS UP IN THE AIR. SO I'LL GET NOW TO THE BUDGET. OUR MAIN -- SHOULD I JUST RUN THROUGH ITEM BY ITEM? >> I THINK I WOULD STICK TO WHAT THE VARIANCES ARE. >> YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE ITEMIZATIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT LOK NEW. [03:30:01] >> SURE. SO THE FIRST ONE, THE FIRST CHANGE, YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED JILL EARLY WHO IS OUR CLERK. SHE'S BEEN A TEMPORARY PART TIME. WE'VE HAD -- WE HAD A CLERK BEFORE HER BRIEFLY, BEFORE MY TIME, BUT WE'VE HAD THAT POSITIN NOW FOR OVER A YEAR AND I BELIEE THE INTENT OF THE POSITION WAS S THE NCDC GREW TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT FULL TIME. AS WE TALKED ABOUT JOB CREATION, THERE'S ONE THERE. BUT JILL HAS BEEN JUST AN ABSOLUTE ROCK STAR FOR US. SO WE'RE LOOKING -- WE'RE LOOKIG TO TAKE HER FULL TIME. THAT'S GOING TO BE AN INCREASE OF -- AND I BELIEVE IT'S -- IT'S IN THE DOCUMENTS. IT'S AN INCREASE OF ROUGHLY 17,000 JUST IN TERMS OF INCREASD SALARY AND BENEFITS. BUT JILL, LIKE I SAID, SHE'S BEN WORKING TO, YOU KNOW, PREPARE AL THE DATA THAT WE GET, GO OUT -- SHE'S -- SHE'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE COUNTY. SHE'S GOING OUT TO TEXAS A&M AND TO OTHER KIND OF ARCHIVES THAT HAVE THESE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE LITERALLY COLLECTING DUST, THESE BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL, YOU KNOW, BLUEPRINTS AND DOCUMENTS OF THINGS THAT REALLY ARE GOOD TO BRING BACK UNDER THE COUNTY ROOF THAT HAVE KIND OF GOTTEN SCATTERED OVER THE YEARS. IT'S NICE HAVING SOMEONE WHO IS FOCUSED ON AS PART OF HER JOB GETTING THESE THINGS TO GO SO WE KNOW WHERE WE'VE BEEN. IT'S BEEN GREAT TO SEE HER DOING THAT AND OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF TIMS WE'LL REACH OUT TO SOMEONE IN TE COUNTY AND SHE'S SEND SOMETHING OFF LOOKING FOR SOME DOCUMENT AD THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOME OTHER DOCUMENT AND IT JUST SO HAPPENS JILL FOUND IT THE OTHER DAY. IT'S NOT JUST A BENEFIT FOR THE NCDC, I THINK IT'S A BENEFIT FOR THE COUNTY AND I MEAN, IF Y'ALL HAVEN'T HAD THE CHANCE TO MEET R INTERACT WITH HER, SHE'S SHARP S A -- SHE'S JUST GREAT. HER WORK ETHIC IS INCREDIBLE AND SO I'M A LITTLE SCARED. WE HAVE HER RIGHT NOW FOR 29 HOURS A WEEK. I'M SCARED WITH WHAT SHE IS GOIG TO DO WITH 40 TO BE QUITE HONEST. IT'S GOING TO BE, SHE'S GOING -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT I'M REALLY EXCITED. >> WE DO HAVE A $500 INCREASE REQUESTED TO DO OUR OFFICE EXPENSES AND SUPPLIES. YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY IT WAS 1,00 AND NOW IT'S 1500, JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT IT, WHAT IT TAKES TO RUN OUR OFFICE. OBVIOUSLY WE HAD NO IDEA WHEN TE BUDGET REQUEST WAS MADE LAST YER BECAUSE THE OFFICE HADN'T BEEN RUN YET. IN TERMS OF -- AND A LOT OF THIS COMES DOWN TO BEING ABLE TO PRIT DOCUMENTS, GET THINGS TOGETHER AND COMPILE THEM INTO BINDERS FR THINGS LIKE THE PRESENTATIONS THAT WE DID TO HELP DR. RAY CRAT HIS ECONOMIC IMPACT REPORTS. THERE WAS A LOT THAT WENT INTO THAT IN TERMS OF JUST MAKING SUE WE HAD EVERYTHING TOGETHER, WE COULD GET EVERYTHING INTO BINDES AND OTHER GENERAL OFFICE SUPPLIES. >> AND THEN WE DO HAVE -- IT'S REALLY NOT A CHANGE, BECAUSE ITS THE SAME -- IT'S THE SAME CONTRACT AS LAST YEAR, BUT IT JUST WASN'T -- WE HAVE THE FULL VALUE OF OUR ECONOMIC CONSULTAN, BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN COMING OUT F OUR BUDGET AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT REFLECTS THAT NUMBER AND JOHN HAS BEEN DOING A LOT OF GREAT WORK FOR THE NCDC AND FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL, AND SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT CONTRACT, I SUPPOSE THAT WOULD BE IN OCTOBER WHEN ANOTHER ONE WOULD BE -- WOULD BE DUE, BUT WE ANTICIPATE THAT. AND THEN I THINK THERE IS ALSO JUST A SMALL INCREASE IN OUR RENTERENT AT TOWER 2. IT'S ABOUT 1850 FOR THE YEAR TOTAL. I WILL SAY TOO, JUST TO NOTE, SO WE DO HAVE THAT INCREASE IN THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CATEGORY, THAT MAY NOT BE NOTED ON YOUR -- THAT'S THE ONE DISCREPANCY THAT MAY NOT BE ON YOUR DOCUMENTS. I DON'T KNOW. BECAUSE THAT WAS -- WE UPDATED THAT KIND OF LATE, AND I'LL TAKE THE BLAME FOR THAT FOR NOT HAVIG THAT SOONER. BUT WE ARE GOING -- WE STILL HAE OUR $90,000 THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE PORT THAT WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING FROM THE GENEROUS SUPPORT THEY GIVE US WHICH WE AE SO APPRECIATIVE FOR. >> WE HAD A PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION TODAY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, HEY, BECAUSE AS WE'RE STARTING TO KIND OF FIRE -- I WOULDN'T SAY ON ALL CYLINDERS YET, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH ROM FOR US TO GROW, BUT WE'RE COMING TO OUR FULL POTENTIAL AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A PRETTY POSITIVE PROGNOSIS FOR AN ADDITIONAL $60,000, TOTALING $150,000 FROM THE PORT IN THERE NEXT IN THEIR NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. WHICH WOULD OFFSET THE INCREASE. A LOT OF THE INCREASE THAT WE WOULD THEN HAVE REQUESTED TO THE COUNTY AND WOULD -- WOULD BASICALLY PUT OUR REQUEST FOR TE COUNTY AT ABOUT $67,000. [03:35:01] >> AND I THINK THAT ONE OF THE DIALOGUES THAT WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, WITH THE WHOLE BOARD IS, LOOK, OUR -- THE INTENTION WAS O ALWAYS FUND RAISE, AND YOU HAVEA NEW COMMITTEE CALLED FUNDRAISIN, AND SO I IMAGINE NOW THAT WE'RE OUT OF, YOU KNOW, INTO A BETTER NORMAL, THAT THAT CAN PROCEED. SO MAYBE PART OF THE -- THIS IS ME JUST GIVING A SUGGESTION, BUT MAYBE WHEN YOU GO ASK THE PORT AND, OF COURSE, I'LL GO WITH YO, BUT WHEN YOU ASK, THAT AT LEAST MAYBE COULD GIVE GRACE, SO TO SPEAK, WE COULD ALWAYS BACK OFF IF WE WERE A SUCCESSFUL FUNDRAISER AFTER A YEAR. BUT IF WE REALLY WANT TO SEE ECONOMIC RECOVERY, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME WINGS TO FLY AND GIVE US A CHANCE TO GO BACK TO THE FUNDRAISING THAT WAS ALWAYS INTENDING, BUT GIVE US A LITTLE GRACE THIS YEAR AND INCREASE THE BUDGET, AND THAT WAY WE GAVE YOU GUYS 50 LAST YEAR, AND SO THE INCREASE WOULD BE 17,000, WHICH WOULD BASICALLY TAKE JILL FROM TEMPORARY TO FULL, SIDNEY IT. AS I UNDERSTAND IT. >> YES. >> I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUND RAISE BASED ON ALL THESE -- I GET EXCITED HEARING ABOUT ALL THESE CODE NAME PROJECTS -- >> I DO WANT TO SAY, I KNOW WE'E ON FILM. I DON'T WANT TO EMBARRASS YOU, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS SUCH A GRET STORY. I'M GOING TO SOMEWHAT REPEAT IT, HOLDEN. THAT IS THAT YOU TOOK ARE A ROCK STAR AND I KNEW IT THE MINUTE I MET YOU WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG AND THEN OF COURSE WHEN YOU GRADUATD AND WERE INTERESTED IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I WAS REALLY EXCITED, BUT IT WAS KIND OF A FN MOMENT FOR ME WHEN I RAN INTO YOUR FAMILY AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT -- IT WAS CLOSE, YOU KNOW, AFTER AMAZON AND RECENTLY AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, AND THEY SAID, DO YOU KNOW HE WOULDN'T TELL US? HE WAS ABSOLUTELY CLOSED RIPPED. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR DISCRETION AND WHEN WE VIOLATE NOT EVEN TELLING OUR PARENTS, THEN WE KNOW, THEN WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE SERIOUS AND INTENT ABOUT THOSE NDAS, AND SO I JUST WANT TO SAY IT WAS JUST SO FUNNY BECAUSE THY WERE SO PROUD, BUT THEY WERE ALO LIKE, COULD YOU BELIEVE WE DIDNT KNOW EITHER? >> I SAID, YES, THAT'S THE WAY T WORKS. LOOK, WE'VE HAD SOME EXCITING MOMENTS, BUT LIKE YOU SAID, I THINK THE BEST IS YET TO COME. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> SO I DO WANT TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE FUNDRAISING, BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD HELP TE COURT UNDERSTAND, THEY ASKED FOR THE EXTRA 17,000. DO YOU WANT TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING AND WHAT YOUR GOALS WOULD BE, LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO RAISE IN THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND CINDY IS GOING TO PROBABLY COME UP AND ECHO. >> TELL US WHAT THE GOAL IS AND WHAT'S REALISTIC. >> LET ME SHARE WHO OUR FUNDRAISING COMMITTEE IS, BECAUE I THINK THAT WILL SPEAK VOLUMES TO THE POTENTIAL HERE. WE HAVE GLEN SQUIRES. KATHERINE HILLIARD, CAROLYN VAUGHN. WE COULDN'T HAVE A BETTER GROUP TO GO OUT AND SUPPORT OUR EFFORTS. WE MET JUST A COUPLE HOURS AGO AND WE ARE IN THE EARLY STAGES F DETERMINING WHAT THAT BUDGET IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. I'LL JUST SHARE, WAYNE THREW A REALLY AGGRESSIVE NUMBER AND IT WON'T BE OUR FIRST YEAR BUDGET, BUT HE FEELS CONFIDENT WE COULD GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE RAISING A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. AND CAROLYN WAS IN THE ROOM SHE SAID, I LIKE THE WAY YOU THINK. OF COURSE THAT'S NOT -- OUR GOAL PROBABLY FOR THE FIRST YEAR, BUT WE REALLY THINK THERE'S A SUSTAINABLE, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY HERE THAT WITH THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AND AFTER BRINGING AMAZON, WE THINK THIS IS EXACTLY THE TIME O START. WE WANTED TO ADD SOME CREDIBILIY TO THE NAME OF NCDC AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER THAN AMAZON COUD HAVE DONE THAT. THIS IS THE TIME TO STRIKE AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF SETTING UP WHAT THOSE SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE. WHAT THOSE BENEFITS ARE GOING TO BE TO OUR MEMBERS, SO WE'RE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO GET ALL OF THAT AND WE CAN REPORT BACK TO THEM. I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO LIKE STRIKE A CHORD, BUT I DON'T MEAN IT TO BE HARSH, I JUST MEAN IT THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT OURSELVES, RIGHT, THAT IS THAT THE STATE OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, THOSE PROFITS GO TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, IT USED TO BE THEY ALTERNATED. IT MIGHT BE WORTH IT TO GO BACK TO THE ALTERNATE SCHEME AND THEY RAISE ABOUT $100,000 WITH THAT EVENT. YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT TE COUNTY SHOULD MAKE FOR THE COUNY AND -- >> JUDGE, WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT AN EVENT, SO WHETHER IT BE STATE OF THE COUNTY OR ANOTHER ONE, IT'S ALREADY ON THE AGENDA. RIGHT, AND YOU COULD DO -- YOU KNOW, SAY THE COUNTY AND THEN SOME OTHER EVENT, BUT BY GETTING SPONSOR SHIPS YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SELL. >> EXACTLY. >> I KNOW, THE CHAMBER, IF YOU'E LISTENING, DON'T PANIC HERE, I NEED YOU TO CONTINUED THAT THESE ARE THE REALITIES OF OUR BUDGET AND WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO HELP AND I WANT TO HELP -- AND I WILL [03:40:02] HELP THE CHAMBER FIND ANOTHER FABULOUS, YOU KNOW, EVENT TO TAE THE PLACE AND WE WILL ALSO WORK HARD FOR THEM. WE'VE ALWAYS -- I'M A FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE UNITED GROCERY CHAMBERS. I'M NEVER GOING TO ABANDON THE CHAMBER. I WANT YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND THE OTHER THING IS THE COUNTY FAIR THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. IF WE COULD CREATE AN EVENT AROUND THAT LIKE THE COUNTY JUDGES, YOU KNOW, PICNIC LIKE THEY DO IN WASHINGTON COUNTY WHERE ALL THE BENEFIT COULD GO O THE NCDC, THEN YOU MIGHT GET A MAJOR COMPANY LIKE AMAZON TO BE THE TITLE SPONSOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR ONE OF THESE -- ALL I'M SAYING TO YOU IS THERE IS A RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE ANDI KNOW THAT, BUT I THINK YOU GUYS COULD REALLY COME ON STRONG AND HELP US SO THAT WE WANT TO BE A PART OF YOUR BUDGET, BUT WE WOULDN'T -- YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO RELY ON US SO HEAVILY IN THE FUTURE. I THINK WE NEED A GRACE PERIOD AND THAT SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST THIS FISCAL YEAR. JUDGE, LET ME GIVE YOU THE CONFIDENCE THAT EVERYBODY ON THT COMMITTEE IS LIKE-MINDED AND THINKING EXACTLY THE SAME WAY YU ARE. SO I'M VERY EXCITED FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR FUNDRAISING. >> THAT'S GREAT. COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? OKAY. GO AHEAD. >> I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERRUPT ANYMORE. ANY OTHER -- ANY OTHER PIECES HERE WITH THIS BUDGET? >> OKAY. THAT LOOKS GOOD. JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, THE OE THING, IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT, IT CAME UP WITH RTA. WE GOT THESE RATE INCREASES ON RENT. THE ONE THING I WANT TO SAY TO EVERYBODY, WHEN WE GET TOWER 2, WE GET THE BOTTOM FLOORS OF CONFERENCE ROOMS AVAILABLE TO US FOR FREE. >> MAKE SURE YOU'RE USING THE CONFERENCE ROOMS A AND IT'S AN INCREDIBLE FACILITY. THANK YOU FOR THAT, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN, AD SO YOU -- MAKE THAT 1850 RENT WORK FOR YOU. RENT ALL OF THAT. NOW, THE ONE THING THAT WE DO IS WHEN WE HAVE COUNTY THINGS -- COUNTY CONFERENCE ROOM NEEDS, I DO GO THROUGH HOLDEN AND I DO SAY, PLEASE GO RENT THAT FOR US. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THE 1850 IS AN OUCH AND ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO ASK HOLDEN IS MAYBE JUST THINK ABOUT GOING TO THEM AGAIN AND SAYING, IT'S A TOUGH YEAR FR US, IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY ADDITIONAL SUPPORT. OF COURSE, YOU'LL HAVE TO WRITE THE GRANT AND ALL OF THAT, BUT T DOESN'T HURT TO ASK. >> THOUGHTS, COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS? >> ON MOVING THE POSITION FROM PART-TIME TO FULL-TIME, I KNOW U YOUR PROJECTS SO YOU HAVE YOUR CODE NAME. I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING FOR JILL, BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT THE NAME TO GET OUT THERE. IF SHE'S GREAT -- I REALLY HADNT HAD A CHANCE TO SIT DOWN AND VISIT WITH HER, AND I DID LAST WEEK FOR ABOUT -- I THOUGHT IT WAS 30 MINUTES, IT ENDED UP BEIG A LOT LONGER. IT WAS SO -- I CAME BACK WITH SO MUCH INFORMATION, AND SHE'S SO PASSIONATE ABOUT THE AREA AND WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT AND HOW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TIES INTO OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM AND OUR LIVING OUR LIFESTYLES WE HAVE HERE IN THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE. I THINK SHE'S OBVIOUSLY A GREAT COMPLEMENT TO YOU ALL. >> OUR LAST EMPLOYEE IS NOW A CITY -- COUNTY EMPLOYEE IN ANOTHER DEPARTMENT. WE LOST HER TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT. SO WE ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO -- >> WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL. >> LISTEN, WE'RE A LITTLE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE IN THAT THE NEXT GROUP ISN'T HERE YET. SO TOUCH LIGHTLY. YOU'VE CREATED A WEBSITE. LET THE COMMISSIONERS KNOW ABOUT THAT. >> WE'RE ON, YOU KNOW, MAINSTREAM. >> YEAH, WE'VE GOT -- WE'VE GOTA WEBSITE, IT'S NCDCTEXAS.COM. CAN WE PULL THAT UP, CONNIE. >> IT'S BEEN A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR ME, BECAUSE I HAE NO BACKGROUND IN WEB DESIGN. >> CHEAP LABOR, GUYS. CHEAP LABOR I LOVE IT, HOLDEN. >> YOU CAN SEE IT HERE, AND OF COURSE OUR BANNER IS GOING TO REALLY PUSH THE AMAZON. I WILL SAY ON THE AMAZON TOO, YU KNOW, WITH MY PARENTS, I WOULDNT EVEN TELL THEM. NOW THAT I LIVE IN TOWN, I'M OVR THERE A LOT FOR FREE DINNERS, I THINK THERE WAS A POINT WHERE THEY STARTED TO THREATEN, OKAY, MAYBE YOU CAN'T COME HERE FOR DINNER ANYMORE IF YOU DON'T TELL US WHAT THESE PROJECTS ARE YOU'E WORKING ON. >> HOLDEN, WE'VE GOT YOU, BUDDY. WE'LL FEED YOU. >> JUST KEEP IT QUIET. >> TAKE A LOCK AT THIS WEBSITE. IT'S REALLY GREAT. >> ONE OF THE THINGS I'M LEARNIG [03:45:03] IS WE CAN TRACK HOW MANY HITS WE HAVE. AND THEN WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHO IS HITTING US. AND SO WE CAN PROACTIVELY CALL, HOLDEN CAN SAY, WHY IS THIS COMPANY CALLING US, HITTING ON S 20 TIMES? AND THEN HE CAN CALL THEM AND SAY, HEY, I'M HOLDEN HOPKINS, IS THERE SOME INFORMATION WE CAN GIVE YOU? >> RIGHT, AND THAT'S WHAT'S COOL. BECAUSE THE COURTHOUSE IS UP AN, AGAIN, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE TIME, WILL YOU PLEASE TELL EVERYBODY WHAT'S HAPPENING WHEN YOU MENTIONED JILL AND HER GATHERING DATA, WE'RE STARTING TO GET ANTSY, BUT OUR DATA ROOM PROBABY NEEDS TO OPEN FAIRLY SOON. TELL EVERYBODY WHY THAT'S SO CRITICAL AND WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. >> ABSOLUTELY. WE NEED TO GET -- WE NEED TO GET ALL THIS, IT'S KIND OF LIVED -- LIKE I MENTIONED -- THIS IS THE SAME STORY IS TRUE FOR A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS. IF YOU WANT TO GET THE INFORMATION ON THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE, IF YOU'RE A DEVELOPR AND YOU WANT TO DO SOME WORK HERE, IT'S NOT BEEN THE EASIEST PROCESS IN THE PAST AND WE ARE TRYING TO GET THAT ALL UNDER ONE ROOF SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A DEVELOPER, WHETHER THEY'RE INTERESTED IN THE COURTHOUSE, IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, JUST GETTING INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT AND LEARNING MORE, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT EASIER ON THEM TO GET THAT STUFF SO WE CAN -- WE CAN HAVE THEM COME OVER. WE'RE LOOKING AT GETTING -- >> WE GOT A REQUEST THIS WEEK. I SENT IT TO YOU GUYS, I DON'T KNOW WHO IT WAS. SOMEBODY WANTED TO KNOW IF THEY COULD COME. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO ANNOUNCE IT EQUALLY AT THE SAME TIME FOR EVERYBODY. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT SIGN. AND ALL OF THE -- ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE HERE, I MEAN, THEY'RE PUBLIC DOCUMENTS O WE CAN SHARE THEM. >> PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO COME N AND SAY, HEY, I WANT THE 2,011 STUDY BY THIS SPECIFIC -- THEY DON'T KNOW THAT EXISTS. >> BUT THEY MAY WANT TO KNOW, HEY, I WANT TO KNOW THIS TYPE OF INFORMATION AND SO WE -- WHEN I SAY WE, I MEAN MOSTLY -- IT'S NT JUST THE DATABASE THAT WE HAVE. WE'RE GETTING EVERYTHING ONLINE, BUT ALSO JILL HAVING JUST KIND F THAT IMMEDIATE RECALL TO SAY, O, YEAH, IT'S THIS DOCUMENT AND ITS LOCATED HERE. AND TRYING TO -- TRYING TO GET ALL THAT FIGURED OUT TO BE ABLE TO GET INFORMATION TO PEOPLE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. >> LOOK, EVERYBODY LOOK AT THE BRIDGE WE DON'T HAVE. >> WE'RE GOING TO GET IT. WE'RE GOING TO GET IT. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON, JOHN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS, BUT I NEED TO TELL TE CREW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN VERY TIGHT WITH KEEPING THE GOVERNORS OFFICE VERY WELL-INFORMED AND ADRIANNA CRUZ IN THAT OFFICE HAS COME TO VISIT US SEVERAL TIMES. AGAIN, WE'RE SO CRAZY BUSY, BUT AS WE GET BACK TO NORMAL, I AM GOING TO ASK YOU TO GET ON OUR AGENDAS AT LEAST ONCE A QUARTER SO THE COMMISSIONER -- COMMISSIN ALWAYS FEELS INFORMED, BUT YOU GUYS ARE DOING AMAZING WORK WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS, TWO OF THE FOUR PROJECTS ARE BEING INITIATED -- IS IT ONE OUT OF FOUR IS BEING INITIATED BY THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE THAT'S NUECES POTENTIALLY BOUND. JOHN'S CONNECTION WITH THAT OFFICE AND THE FACT THAT HE USED TO RUN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICE WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS, IT MAKES HIM INCREDIBLY VALUABLE. WE DON'T JUST WORK WITH ONE ENTITY. WE'RE REALLY, WE'RE VERY STRATEGIC, AND ALSO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR FRIENDS IN MIDLAND TO UNDERSTAND THE CONNECTION THAT THE BUSINESS WORLD PLAYS AND OBVIOUSLY AS A - YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS, BUT THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE BEING ABANDONED ONLY MAKES IT MORE ATTRACTIVE AND THAT MEANS IT MAKES OUR PORT MORE ATTRACTIVE. JOHN, FINALLY YOUR WORK WITH THE UNIVERSITY, I DON'T KNOW, UNTIL SOMEBODY WALKS IN THE DOOR, YOU'VE GOT THE FLOOR. >> BUT DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE -- >> YOU KNOW WHAT, SORRY. I DIDN'T REALIZE -- THEY'RE ONLINE. >> BUT THEY'RE NOT DUE FOR -- TILL 3:00. YOU HAVE 5 MINUTES. TELL US ABOUT YOUR WORK WITH THE UNIVERSITY I PORT STUDIES AND WHAT YOU THINK IS THE FUTURE FOR DRONES AND -- >> THERE ARE TWO PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE PORT RIGT NOW THAT ARE SO INTERESTING. >> IF YOU DON'T MIND, TAKE THAT MIC. HELLO. THERE WE GO. >> GENERALLY PEOPLE TELL ME TO QUIET DOWN. YOU KNOW. >> THERE ARE TWO PROJECTS WE ARE WORKING ON. WITH THE PORT AND WITH A&M CORPS CHRISTI. OUR CONTACT IS NOT THE RIGHT PERSON, BUT HE'S SENDING US TO THE RIGHT PERSON IN AMAZON TO CONNECT THE RESEARCH THAT A&M CORPUS CHRISTI IS DOING ON DRONE UTILIZATION AS THEY TRY TO FIGUE OUT HOW THEY INTEGRATE THE CONTROLLED AIRSPACE NETWORK WITH THOSE AND THAT IS SOMETHING, THERE ARE ONLY SEVEN OF THOSE RESEARCH FACILITIES ACROSS THE NATION, AND ONE IS AT A&M CORPUS CHRISTI. [03:50:03] AND SO THE THOUGHT IS WE'RE GOIG TO -- WE'RE GOING TO CONNECT THOSE WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE AT AMAZON, THE OTHER THING, THE MEETING THAT HOLDEN JUST TALKED ABOUT AT -- THAT WE HAD YESTERDY THAT WAS WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT OF ROBSTOWN ISD AND THE COMPLETE ARRAY OF DELMAR AND OTHERS, THAT WAS A MEETING FOCUSED OFFICIALLY ON HELPING AMAZON TO FIND THE RIGHT -- FIND EMPLOYEES AND EDUCATED OTHERS IF THAT BECOMES NEEDED, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN RESEARCHING IS WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FINALLY FIGURES OUT WHAT THIS INFRASTRUCTURE DOCUMENT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, ONE OF THE BIG FOCUSES IS GOING TO BE ON RURAL AREAS BROADBAND CAPABILITY AND GETTING THAT OUT TO THE RURAL AREAS AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT, YU KNOW, CORPUS CHRISTI HAS PROBABY THE MOST ROBUST OF ANY CITY THER SIZE OF BROADBAND, BUT THE REST OF OUR ECONOMY DOES NOT. AND AS I WAS TALKING TO THE SUPERINTENDENT AT ROBSTOWN YESTERDAY, HE WAS ARTICULATING SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT HE HAD WITH DOING INSTRUCTION OFFLINE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT TYPE OF BROADBAND ACCESS. WE'VE BEEN TALKING, ONE OF OUR COMMITTEES HAS ALREADY TALKED ABOUT HOW THE NCDC MAY WORK WITH THE COUNTY AS IT BECOMES CLEAR WHAT TYPE OF SMARTPHONE GOING TO MONEY IS GOING TO COME OUT FOR THIS BROADBAND AND FOCUS ON USING THE MONEY TO SPREAD THE BROADBAND THROUGH THE ENTIRE RET OF NUECES COUNTY, AND THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER, BECAUSE THAT, THE HELP THAT THAT WOULD GIVE TO OUR CITIZENS ACROSS THE COUNTY, BUT JUST AS IMPORTANTLY AS WE RECRUIT NEW COMPANIES, IF WE'RE ABLE TO PUT THAT BROADBAND THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE COUNTY, IT ENHANCES OUR ABILITY TO ATTRACT OTHER INDUSTRIES. >> YEP. NO DOUBT. >> LISTEN, I REALLY DO APPRECIAE IT. BECAUSE YOU'RE NEW, COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE O MEET WITH YOU LAST YEAR. >> Y'ALL ARE -- YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IF YOU WOULD REACH OUT TO HIM AND INVITE HIM OVER AND REALLY JUST MEET SOME OF THE PEOPLE, THE COMMISSIONERS AND LT HIM SEE THE DIVERSITY THAT WE HAVE, BUT, AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO SERVE ON COMMITTEES, THAT'S REALLY WHERE, IF WE'RE TO EMULATE WHAT MIDLAND ODESSA DID WITH THEIR PROGRAM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ON THE COMMISSION TO BE ON THE COMMISSIONS COMMITTEES, SO PLEAE REACH OUT TO THEM AND LET'S GET US JUMP STARTED. >> IF THERE ARE ANY FURTHER -- F THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, WE'LL DISMISS -- >> I WANTED TO SAY ON FACEBOOK, THE MEMBER PROFILE, I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO SHARE THAT WITH THE COMMUNITY SO THEY SEE THAT DIVERSITY AND THE EXPERTISE THAT IS THERE, AND SO I -- I STUMBLED UPON IT ONE DAY AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO LIKE IT. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> AND THAT HONESTLY, CHRISTINA, ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS THAN LEADING THAT. A LOT OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA INITIATIVES, YOU KNOW, MARKETING IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT AS WE TALK ABOUT FUNDRAISING AND GROWING THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT, MAKING SURE THERE'S SOMEONE ON STAFF WO IS DAY TO DAY FOCUSED ON ALL THINGS MARKETING, BUT CHRISTINA AS OUR MARKETING AND PR COMMITTE CHAIR HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE WITH THAT. YOU'RE 100 PERCENT RIGHT COMMISSIONER. >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY AGAIN TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, YOU SHOUD ALL BE INVITED ON OUR RECURRING INVITE FOR OUR NCDC BOARD MEETINGS. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY, WE'RE STARTING TO COME BACK AND HAVE THOSE IN PERSON, WE ARE WAITING, YOU MENTIONED, JUDGE, THE CONFERENCE ROOM AT TOWER 2, WE'E HOPING IT OPENS SOMETIME IN AUGUST, SO BY SEPTEMBER WE WILL BE DOWN THERE FOR OUR MEETINGS. IN THE MEANTIME WE'RE MAKING SUE WE HAVE SPACE IN TOWER 2 TO HOST THE MEETINGS. I WANT TO EXTEND THE INVITE, WHETHER VIRTUALLY OR IN PERSON, YOU'RE WELCOME TO ATTEND. WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME AND LISTEN TO OUR MEETINGS. ALSO IF WE CAN EVER -- WE HELP THE JUDGE SOMETIMES IF THERE'S SOME REQUESTS FOR THAT A CONFERENCE ROOM. WHEN IT OPENS BACK UP, PLEASE CONTACTED ME OR JILL. IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU NEED TO BOOK THE TOWER TWO CONFERENCE ROOM, WE CAN TRY AND HELP YOU GT THAT DONE IF IT'S AVAILABLE. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HELP WITH THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> THAT'S GREAT. >> AND JUST AS A FINAL, I THINK THAT YOU MIGHT TELL CHRISTINA THIS. I'VE NOTICED WITH ALL THE KIDS HOME THIS SUMMER, IF THERE IS -- IF SHE COULD MARKET FOR AN INTEN FOR YOU GUYS, THAT WOULD BE [03:55:01] GREAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE -- E WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT, HAVING THAT ON YOUR RESUME, THAT YOU WORKED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUSINESS SCHOOL, YOU KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS, HOLDEN. IF YOU ALL WOULD REALLY MARKET THAT, YOU COULD VET THEM THROUGH OUR PROCESSES, AND WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU GUYS HAVE AN INTERN THIS SUMMER, AND THEN I WOULD LOVE TO SPONSOR A -- AN INSTAGRM PHOTO CONTEST SO THAT YOU COULD BUILD YOUR INSTAGRAM, AND FIND E THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PICTURES IN NUECES COUNTY AND LET'S START TE VERY BEST NUECES COUNTY INSTAGRM ACCOUNT. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE STUFF THA, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY, LIKE WOULD WANT TO GET ON AND CHECK OUT. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> UH-HUH. >> AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE YOU ALL COULD THINK ABOUT WHAT'S -- ASK CHRISTINA WHAT SHE THINKS IS APPROPRIATE DOLLAR WISE, BUT I THINK, YOU COULD EVEN SAY THAT IT'S LIKE, FOR -- WHAT IS IT, FR PHOTOGRAPHERS UNDER 30 SO WE KNW WE HIT SOMEBODY WHO NEEDS THE MONEY. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> OR A STUDENT, OR -- I DON'T KNOW. >> THINK ABOUT IT. THAT WAY I FEEL GOD GOOD ABOUT THE MONEY BEING ALMOST SCHOLARSHIP BASED. YOU COULD EVEN HAVE CATEGORIES. I AM HOOKED AT LOOKING AT BEAUTIFUL PHOTOS ON INSTAGRAM. I THINK THE TWO YOU HAVE ON OUR WEBSITE INSPIRED ME TO THINK ABOUT THAT. I WAS THINKING $1,000. IS THAT A GOOD AMOUNT? >> THAT'S PRETTY GOOD IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR -- FOR PHOTOGRAPHY. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. MAYBE YOUR FIRST, SECOND, THIRD. >> I'M JUST TALKING BARBARA CANALES, I THINK IT WOULD INSPER INSPIRE OTHER PEOPLE TO DO THE SAME. >> IF WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME HERE, WE WANT TO SHOWCASE THE BEAUTY THAT WE HAVE. >> WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE WORK WITH THE PORT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE RECEIVED ANY CURRENT FUNDING, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE WORK WITH THE PORT IF THEY'RE GOING TO CONTRIBUTE. LAST TIME IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET MONEY FROM THEM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE RIGHT STUFF GOING. >> WHILE YOU WERE -- DID YOU HER WHAT -- DALE SAYS WE'VE GOT TO CALL THE PORT. THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN US OUR 2020 MONEY. HOLDEN, COULD YOU ALSO MAKE THOE CALLS? WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY PAY THEIR BILLS. AND WE KNOW THEY HAVE MONEY. WHEN I FIRST STARTED IT TOOK A LONG TIME BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO PAY AT A CERTAIN TIME AND A CERTAIN WAY. WE JUST PREFER ONE CHECK, RIGHT, DALE? >> IT'S THE GOVERNMENT, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONSIDERS $35 MILLION, I THINK THAT WE CAN BE TRUSTED. >> YES. >> ON A SERIOUS NOTE, I'M SURE THEY HAVE PROTOCOLS JUST LIKE WE DOOM OF LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. WE WOULD LIKE TO GET OUR 2020 MONEY IN. IF Y'ALL WOULD PLEASE WORK WITH EXTERNAL AFFAIRS OR ACTUALLY THY HAVE A CFO. I THINK MAYBE I WOULD START THERE. >> OUR NEXT DEPARTMENT AT 3:00 S CITY COUNTY HEALTH AND WE ARE -- I NEED TO GET MY GLASSES HERE. BUT -- OKAY. SO THAT IS DEPARTMENT 3091 AND 1377. AND SO DALE THOSE CAN BE FOUND ON. >> 1377 IS ON PAGE 815. 815 IN OUR NOTEBOOKS. AND JOINING US, WHO DO WE HAVE? >> MY GOSH. ANNETTE? >> THEY TOLD ME IT WAS RIGHT HERE. >> OKAY. HEY, ANNETTE. >> HI. >> AND I WAS TOLD THERE WAS SOMEONE ON THE PHONE. >> OKAY. WE'LL LET YOU SET UP AND WE'RE GOING TO TURN OUR NOTEBOOKS TO 815. AND -- OR -- THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE FIRST AND THIS WOULD BE A DEPARTMENT, 1377, WE CALL THAT THE 1115 WAIVER. >> RIGHT. HI, DANTE. >> WHENEVER YOU GUYS ARE READY, WE'RE GOOD HERE. >> OKAY. WHAT I FOR THE 1377, AND, GOOD AFTERNOON, JUDGE, COURT, IS 26,363. WE'RE ASKING FOR THE AMOUNT TO E ALLOCATED TO OUR BUDGET. AND THAT IS FOR THREE ITEMS. AND ONE IS FOR DIABETES KITS. THESE ARE KITS THAT IT'S KIND OF NEW TECHNOLOGY FOR DIABETES, SOI THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THE 1115 WAIVER, THEY'RE DOING DIABETIC CHECKS, THEY'RE DOING A1CS, AND BLOOD PRESSURE CHECKS. THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY, THAT WE HAVE A HEALTHIER COMMUNITY. AND SO IT'S -- COMES OUT TO LIKE $10,500, SO WE ROUND IT UP TO $11,000 AND THESE ARE ACTUALLY LITTLE PATCHES THAT YOU PUT ON YOUR ARM. >> THAT'S THE FREESTYLE LIBRE. >> YES, ABSOLUTELY. >> WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME OF THOSE KITS SO WE CAN MONITOR THEM. THEY CAN MONITOR THEMSELVES THROUGH THE PHONE AND THAT'S [04:00:03] $11,000. >> AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE -- WE'RE GOING ONE COMPUTER DESKTOP WITH MONITOR, F COURSE, AND THEN TWO LAPTOPS. AND THAT'S ABOUT $4,800 AND THAT'S FOR ACTUALLY FOR OUR PARTNERS WE PARTNER WITH AND THAT'S METRO MINISTRIES, SO WHEN THEY HAVE PATIENTS THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THEIR COMPUTERS AND WE GO OVER THERE AND WE SEE OUR POPULATION, WHICH IS THE SAME AS THEIR POPULATION AND WE DO THE BLOOD PRESSURE CHECKS AND THE A1C, SO THEY NEED TO UPGRADE THEIR COMPUTERS. LAST YEAR WE UPGRADED THE AMISTD COMPUTERS AND THAT'S AN AMOUNT F 4800. TELL US ABOUT THE FITNESS PADS. >> THE FITNESS PADS. LAST YEAR WE PUT IN 150,000 SO THAT WAY WE COULD USE THEM FOR HAZEL BAY, AND WE DIDN'T GET TO USE IT BECAUSE OF COVID-19, BUTI THINK RECENTLY THEY JUST TOOK OT THE 150,000 FOR THAT. SO WE DON'T NEED THE 100,000 IN THERE. >> WE DON'T NEED IT? >> NO. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> WE'RE GOING TO GET RID OF IT. YES. >> AWESOME. GREAT. >> THE LAST ONE, JUDGE ON THE 1377 IS A TITLE CHANGE FOR OUR AADMINISTRATOR THAT WE HAVE THERE, THAT'S OUR PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT, THAT'S DR. LEWIS AND THAT'S CHANGING THE TITLE FROM N ADMINISTRATOR TO AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR THE COUNTY. SO WE'LL HAVE ONE CITY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND ONE COUNTY ASSISTAT DIRECTOR, AND THEN THERE'S AN INCREASE OF $10,563 FOR SALARY PARITY AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE GOIG FROM THE 1377. >> SOMEBODY HELP ME REMEMBER. WAS IT THIS MORNING OR WAS IT YESTERDAY? WHERE DID WE TALK PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, GUYS? >> THAT WAS THE PARKS IN THE ARA FOR -- I THINK IT WAS HILLTOP. >> HILLTOP. >> OKAY. I WAS JUST THINKING -- BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO ASK ANNETTE ABOUT IT, AND I GUESS -- HERE'S THE -- FORGET WHERE IT IS. HERE'S JUST A GENERALIZED QUESTION. IF WE NEEDED MORE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT FOR SOME PROJECT IN OR NEXT FISCAL YEAR, CAN WE GO TO THIS AGAIN? >> I BELIEVE THAT THE -- THEY AGREE WITH THE EXPENSE, YES, WE CAN. >> I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE IT WAS. I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE NOTES, BUT I THOUGHT THERE WAS - WAS IT BISHOP MAYBE? >> THERE WAS SOME PLACE WHERE WE SAID WE WERE LOOKING FOR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. I JUST DON'T REMEMBER WHERE. >> SOME ADULT EQUIPMENT AS WELL AS SOME ADA TYPE OF EQUIPMENT. YES, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. >> THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE WERE ASKING FOR THAT AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THOSE WERE LOCATED. MAYBE IN BISHOP, MAYBE -- >> WHEN IT COMES UP, BE SURE AND THINK ABOUT IT. >> I DON'T ANY QUESTIONS ON THI, BUT LET'S ASK EVERYBODY ELSE. EVERYBODY GOOD? >> ON 1115. >> THAT'S ALWAYS THE GOOD ONE, RIGHT? >> DON'T YOU JUST LOVE THAT ONE? >> YES. >> I DO WANT TO TELL YOU, ANNETE THAT I AM GOING TO FORWARD YOU, THIS MORNING, BELINDA ATTENDED A MEETING ON 1115 WAIVERS AND WHAT TEXAS'S POSITION IS AND SHE'S GT A GREAT SUMMARY. CMS HAS SAID, TEXAS, YOU'RE DON, YOU'VE REFUSED TO EXPAND. WE'RE DONE WITH YOU. BUT THERE ARE ALSO -- THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITIES TO, A, FOR TE GOVERNMENT, OUR STATE GOVERNMENT TO GET ON BOARD IN A WAY TO CONTINUE THE SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDIG AND THERE'S ALSO A WAY MEMBER FR THE FEDS TO GIVE US, YOU KNOW, N EXTENSION. THEY'VE SAID NO, BUT BELINDA HAS ALL OF THE GREAT NOTES FROM TODAY. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, WEIGH IN ON IT AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A TRIP TO D.C. IN JULY FOR THE CONFERENCE. THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST DISCUSSIONS FOR THE TEXS DELIGATION OF COUNTY JUDGES ANDI MAY WANT TO HAVE ONE OF YOU GUYS COME WITH US. IT'S POS TOO IMPORTANT. 1115, WE THRIVE ON IT. WE ABSOLUTELY CRITICALLY NEED IT. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD BUDGET SO FAR. >> I THINK WITH THAT SAID, JUDG, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE -- WE WILL HAE AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR ABOUT $6 MILLION IN CONTINGENCY APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE SPECIFIC 1115 WAIVER. >> YEAH. >> AND I KNOW THAT IT'S THERE AD IT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD THAT IT'S THERE TO PROTECT US, A SAFETY NT FOR OUR COMMUNITY'S MEDICAL AND HEALTHCARE NEEDS, BUT I ALSO THINK IT WOULD BE SMART FOR US O AT LEAST DEVELOP A PLAN, A STRATEGY OF HOW WE CAN APPROPRIATE THEM. IT ALWAYS FEELS WEIRD TO ME THAT WE TRY TO MAKE SOMETHING FIT IN [04:05:02] IT RATHER THAN REALLY SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT IT'S FOR, LET'S PLN ACCORDINGLY. I DON'T KNOW. JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT AS WE MOVE INTO A NEW FISCAL YEAR AND THE UNCERTAINTY AROUND US AND WE MIGHT WANT TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE HEADED WITH IT. WHAT CAN WE DO WITH IT THAT WILL REALLY BE IMPORTANT, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, OUR -- YOU TALKED ABOUT OUR -- OUR CO- CO-MORBIDITY SITUATION SO MANY TIMES. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THERE ARE THE FUNDS THERE YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A WAY THAT WE COULD WORK ONA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO UTILIZE THESE FUNDS, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. THEY MAY NOT SAY THIS FOR BRICK AND MORTAR, BUT THEY WOULD TO BE PROGRAMMING, RIGHT, OR FOR EMPLOYEES -- ANYWAY. >> I'M WITH YOU ON THAT. I THINK THIS IS -- IT'S NOT GOIG TO BE HERE FOREVER, FOLKS. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO TELL YOU. TEXAS NEEDS TO EXPAND. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE WHICH S YOUR BIG DEPARTMENT AND THAT'S 3091 AND THAT CAN BE FOUND ON PAGE -- >> HOLD ON. >> 822. >> 822. >> GO AHEAD, A ANNETTE. >> THE ONLY PART THAT WE ACTUALY NEEDED TO ADJUST WAS THE GOVERNMENTAL PERSONNEL BREAK DON AND THAT'S BECAUSE AS ALL OF YOU REMEMBER, THERE ARE SEVERAL POSITIONS THAT THE CITY PAYS FOR AND THEN THE COUNTY REIMBURSES T A PERCENTAGE, SO WE HAVE A PROCUREMENT PERSON THAT GETS REIMBURSED BY THE COUNTY AT 46.33 PERCENT AND WE ALSO HAVE A HEALTH DIRECTOR, MYSELF, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, DR. DANTE AS WELL AS A SENIOR AND OUR PHARMACIST WHO GETS PAID 50 FROM THE COUNTY. WE THEN ADD IN THE -- THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS AND THE COST OF LIVING TO THESE AMOUNTS AND SO WE PUT THAT AMOUNT IN WHICH COMES OUT TO 57777.94. AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR FROM THIS -- FROM THIS BUDGET FR THIS FISCAL YEAR. >> IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> IT'S THE COMPUTERS AGAIN, WHICH WE MAY BE ABLE TO DEAL WIH EVEN NOW, AND THEN THE ADMINISTRATOR'S PAY INCREASE. >> THAT'S ON THE 1377. THIS IS ON THE 3091. ON 3091, IT SAYS ADMINISTRATOR'S PAY INCREASED. >> IT'S NOT MUCH. IT'S $5,000. TWO LAPTOPS THAT WERE STOLEN PERHAPS? >> NOT STOLEN, THEY WERE LOST OR BROKEN. >> YEAH, RIGHT. TO REPLACE SOME BROKEN ONES. >> RIGHT. AND I DON'T KNOW, AND I MEAN, THIS IS NOT ME BEING CHEAP. I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN SHOW THT THOSE LAPTOPS ARE BEING USED IN IN THE COVID-19, DALE, COULD WE NOT ATTRIBUTE THOSE TO THE FEMA VACCINATION AND TAKE CARE OF IT THAT WAY. AS WE KNOW THE 391 IS A REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE HOSPITAL TO US. >> WE REALLY ARE -- >> OKAY, YEAH. NEVER MIND. >> THANK YOU, MR. HILL. I HOPE HE'S NOT LISTENING. >> OKAY. >> THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE ON 301 IS THOSE LAPTOPS AND THEN, AGAI, AND THE PERCENTAGE IS 46, YOU SAID? >> 40/60 FOR MOST OF THEM AND 46.33 FOR THE PROCUREMENT AND 50 PERCENT FOR DR. RAM AND THE LOCAL HEALTH AUTHORITY. >> YES. >> SO THE DIFFERENT IS 57777. AND, DALE, WE'VE NOT HAD A MEETING, AT LEAST NOT A FORMAL MEETING FROM THIS, YOU KNOW, ITS REALLY THE MAYOR AND MYSELF. I'M SORRY, THE CITY MANAGER AND MYSELF ON THIS ISSUE, AND I WOUD LIKE TO ASK IF -- FOR IF YOU WOULD CALL THEM, BECAUSE WE CANT REALLY DO IT WITHOUT YOU OR HEATHER OR CONSTANCE IN THE ROOM. WE SHOULD REALLY GO OVER THIS TOGETHER. I CAN'T BELIEVE WE DON'T, AND I REALLY -- THE LAST TIME WE DID T WAS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DISMEMBERING IN 2019. THAT'S THE LAST TIME WE'VE MET ABOUT THE SUBJECT, AND WHENEVER WE CAN, I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE VERY -- AND IT'S THE CITY MANAGR AND MYSELF THAT HIRES AND FIRES THE TOP -- THE TOP STAFF MEMBER, [04:10:02] EXECUTIVE STAFF MEMBERS, AND ALO PERFORMS THEIR EVALUATION. THERE'S SO MANY ELEMENTS, AND I THINK WE SHOULD FORMALIZE IT SO WE DON'T GET COMPLACENT. AND THAT WAY WE CAN GO OVER ANYTHING AND AS THEY SAY, SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE, EVERYBODY AGREES THIS IS THE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. >> I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I ALSO THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST SO THE COURT KNOWS, SOMETIMES THE ISSUE IS THAT SINCE WE FOLLOW TE CITY POLICIES THAT SOMETIMES LIE FOR PERSONNEL, THAT'S AUTOMATICALLY, YOU KNOW, FIGURED BY THE COUNTY. SO THE COUNTY AUDITOR DOES THAT FOR US, BUT THIS ISN'T PERSONNE. THIS IS THE GOVERNMENTAL EMPLOYEES THAT ARE SHARED BY CIY AND COUNTY, AND EVEN ON THE PERSONNEL PART, THEY MIGHT PUT A 2.5 PERCENT THAT THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO GET AS A RAISE, BUT THE CITY MIGHT GIVE A 3 PERCENT. SO THE ADJUSTMENT STILL HAS TO E MADE. TRYING TO ANTICIPATE FOR THE NET YEAR. >> IT'S HARD. >> IT'S REALLY -- BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT I THINK WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE THEY AFFECT BOTH SIDES. >> AND IF THEY WOULD TELL US AN, DALE, THIS IS NOT A COMPLAINT BECAUSE I'M HAPPY FOR THEM VERY MUCH, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THY HAD BOTH PERFORMED AN EVALUATION AT THE CITY AND ADJUSTED SALARIES. AND IT JUST HAPPENED THAT WHEN ANNETTE CALLED ME ON HER BUDGETI HAD A FEW QUESTIONS AND SO I WAS ABLE TO FIND OUT THAT THEY HAD DONE ALL THIS. AND THERE'S LIKE ZERO -- THERE WAS ZERO COMMUNICATION AT ALL, AND, AGAIN, I MEAN, I'M HAPPY THAT IT'S ALL HAPPENING, BUT I JUST WISH THERE WAS GREATER COORDINATION SO THAT YOU AND I CAN ANTICIPATE. >> AND SOMETIMES WE'RE INFORMED AT THE LAST MINUTE AND WE DON'T HAVE THE GREATEST COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY ON SEVERAL ISSUES, BUT I BELIEVE THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT THE MLU, MR. WATERMAN WAS STILL HERE AND I BELIEVE IT WAS THE COMMISSIONER WAS HERE AT THE TIME, WE REVIEWED IT TO SEE IF WE WANTED TO SEPARATED IT AND MAYBE WE COULD WORK AND YOU WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER TO TRY AND SCHEDULE SOMETHING. >> YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SUPER. >> SO, ANNETTE, EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONERS ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANNETTE ON THE TWO -- I WOULD SAY THE TWO MAJOR CHANGES THAT I SEE OR, DALE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING HERE THAT YOU SEE THAT ANNETTE CAN HELP ARTICULATE? IT LOOKS LIKE A TOTAL OF 40,000 AND WE'VE GONE OVER THOSE REASONS. >> IT WASN'T ENTERED, BUT WE MAE THE CORRECTION NOW. WE MADE THE CORRECTION, SO, YEA, IT WAS ALREADY CLOSED, BUT WE HADN'T ANTICIPATED THOSE INCREASES FOR NEXT YEAR. FOR THESE -- FOR THOSE THREE POSITIONS, SO WE CHANGED IT TO THE 57777. >> OKAY. >> WE'LL MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS. >> WE'LL MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS. >> ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. AND THEN LET ME JUST MAKE SURE HERE. OKAY. I KNOW THAT IS ALL YOU HAVE, BUT I DO WANT TO GO OVER A FEW THINGS, BECAUSE WE'RE DOING GRET ON TIME AND THEY'RE SO IMPORTANT AND SO RARE WE GET TO ALL BE TOGETHER LIKE THIS. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. I LITERALLY NEVER DO THIS, AND I'M SO SORRY THAT THERE'S NOT LIKE A THOUSAND PEOPLE WATCHING, BUT I'M GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY. I'M LIKE COMPLETELY, COMPLETELY GRATEFUL TO YOU, DANTE AND YOU ANNETTE, AND YOU, LUIS. I COULD CRY. YOU GUYS HAVE SAVED SO MANY LIVES. SO MANY LIVES, AND WE HAVE -- NOBODY WILL EVER KNOW THE HELL THAT WE'VE ALL GONE THROUGH. BUT MAINLY YOU. AND IF YOU HAD A BUDGET THAT HAD $10 MILLION, I WOULD TRY TO GO GET MY SHOVEL AND GO DIG AND GO FIND IT FOR YOU. BUT THE TRUTH IS YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN WORTH IT AND YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN NEEDING DOLLARS, BUT NOBODY PAID ATTENTION TO PUBLIC HEALTH, NOT LIKE THEY'RE DOING TODAY. AND SO ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THT WE'RE NOT PROFILING OUR REAL NEEDS FOR THE FUTURE WITH THESE COUNCILS, THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE COMMISSIONERS COURT NEED TO KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE GOING FORWARD. OKAY? >> FROM THE NEXT, GOD FORBID, HORRIBLE VIRUS OR THE VARIANT OF THIS VIRUS. AND SO ANNETTE AND I SPOKE YESTERDAY AT LENGTH ABOUT WHAT E CAN DO TO HIGHLIGHT THAT. NOW, HERE'S THE GOOD PART. I DON'T NEED TO GO DIG WITH MY SHOVEL. I ALREADY DID. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS FOR. THAT'S WHAT HAGERTY WAS FOR AND MARIA AND NATALIE DID AND DANTE, YOUR GREAT WRITING AND WE'VE DID DUG FOR GOLD AND HAVE BROUGHT IT HOME, $18 MILLION. [04:15:05] >> ANNETTE AND I FEEL VERY SAD THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO HIE ONE PERSON WITH THOSE DOLLARS YET, AND YET WE'VE ALREADY GONE 90, 120 DAYS. MAYBE 90. >> SO SOMEWHERE WE'RE MISSING SOMETHING. AND SO WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU GUYS THAT THOSE DOLLARS ARE FOLLOWED BY PROBABLY ANOTHER $18 MILLION IF WE CAN GET OUR AT TOGETHER, AND HOW ARE WE GOING O PUT TOGETHER THE SPENDING PLAN AND GET IT WITH MY AUDITORS AND THEIR CITY AND I'M JUST SAYING, HOW DO WE DO ALL THAT? >> THAT'S NOT IN ANY BUDGET BOOK. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST T THAT -- I WOULD LIKE THERESA TO HELP ME FIND A DAY WHERE WE DO THE EXACT SAME THING. MAYBE NOT ON THE RECORD LIKE THS AND IF THE COMMISSIONERS WANT TO COME, GREAT, IF THEY DON'T, NO BIGGY. WE'LL POST IT ANYWAY. WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A SPENDING PLAN FOR THE 18 MILLION, DALE. THERE'S THINGS IN THERE THAT ARE UNIQUELY COUNTY ONLY AND THINGS IN THERE THAT ARE UNIQUELY CITY ONLY AND THEN THERE'S STUFF THAT GOES LIKE THIS. IT'S MAINLY FOR THEM OVER ON GREENWOOD AND IT'S MAINLY FOR THEM AND TONS OF PEOPLE MAPLE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER STUF, AND I LEARNED THE HARD WAY THROUGH CRF, DALE, THAT BECAUSE JUST THEY TELL YOU OVER THERE OR OVER THERE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU MONEY, THEY DON'T GIVE YOU MONEY. AND I DON'T WANT THOSE PROBLEMS. I WANT US TO WORK TOGETHER, BUT, YEAH, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT TO FIGUE OUT HOW TO PUT A SPENDING PLAN TOGETHER AND THEN THIS -- THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS A STAKE HOLD IN GETTING THOSE PEOPLE HIRED FOR YOU. WE NEED TO MOVE THE BALL. TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY THAT WE CAN SAY THAT YESTERDAY WAS A SINGLE DIGIT DAY. WE WANT LOTS OF SINGLE DIGIT DAS FROM HERE UNTIL -- WE'RE NEVER GOING TO ERADICATE IT, BY THE WAY, I DON'T THINK, BUT GETTING IT TO SINGLE DIGITS AND GETTING OUR ICUS THAT ARE NOW IN SINGLE DIGITS IS HUGE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW, BUT WE'RE VACCINATING DOWNSTAIRS. >> I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT. >> I THINK THEY'RE STILL THERE. >> THEY MAY HAVE LEFT. IT'S AFTER 3:00. >> BUT I KNOW WE'VE GOT 20 PEOPE AS OF LUNCH, AND THAT'S A BIG DEAL, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT EXPECTING TO COME BACK VACCINATD WHEN THEY COME TO THE COURTHOUSE NECESSARILY. >> IT'S A HUGE DEAL. WE CANCELED THE COVID TASK FORCE -- WELL, WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING, BUT THE COVID TASK FORCE WAS CANCELED, AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE STATISTICS. HOW ARE WE GOING TO MANAGE THE STATISTICS AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO MANAGE GETTING THE INFORMATIN TO OUR FEMA HEALTH EQUITY STUFF. SO I JUST WANT US TO KNOW THAT ALL THIS GREAT MONEY WE'VE BROUGHT IN, IT MEANS NOTHING UNLESS YOU USE IT. AND I DON'T -- WHETHER, YOU KNO, YOU GUYS -- I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE GREAT IDEAS, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO -- IT ALL HAS TO COME THROUGH COURT. >> RIGHT. >> SO IT DOESN'T BELONG TO THIS ENTITY AND IT DOESN'T BELONG TO THAT ENTITY. IT BELONGS TO CITY, COUNTY HEALH DEPARTMENT AND IT WAS -- AND THERE'S A METHOD TO THE MADNESS HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE $26 MILLION THAT GOT REDUCED TO $18 MILLION AND THAT WE NEED TO EXECUTE UPON IT. BECAUSE THEY WILL TAKE IT FROM YOU IF YOU DON'T USE IT. >> I AGREE. COMPLETELY. AND I KNOW 16 MILLION IS FOR, TO BRING IN, LIKE YOU SAID PERSONNL TEMPS. >> TONS OF PERSONNEL. WE'RE LOOKING AT A DATE OF JUNE 15TH THAT WE SHOULD BE THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO START HIRING THEN, SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO TY TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS. AND THEN THE OTHER $2 MILLION, E ARE TRYING TO BUY SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE LISTED ON THERE AS CATEGORICAL, BUT WE CAN ALSO SHARE THAT WITH MAYBE BCFS. MAYBE THEY CAN HELP US MAKE SURE THE PROCESSES CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD, BECAUSE IT TAKES TIME O BE ABLE TO KEEP DOING THAT AS WELL AS CONTINUING TO PRIORITIZE THE HARD TO GET INDIVIDUALS, LIE YOU'RE DOING HERE, THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND I APPLAUD YOU AND YOUR COURT FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU Y'ALL HAVE DONE. WITHOUT Y'ALL AT OUR SITE WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN AS SUCCESSFL AS WE HAVE BEEN, AND KNOCK ON WOOD, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL ALL LOOKING AT THE DELTA VARIANT AND TODAY WE'RE NOT IN THE CY SINGLE DIGITS. WE'RE BACK IN THE DOUBLE DIGITS. >> I HAVEN'T GOT MY TEXT YET. >> I'M SORRY TO HEAR THAT. >> IT HAPPENS, BUT WE HAVE TO STAY ON TOP OF IT. I THINK SOME OF THE GOOD NEWS, JUDGE, IS THEY HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL GRANTS THEY WANT US O APPLY FOR. ONE IS A NONCOMPETE GRANT AND THAT'S TO BE EQUITY IN VACCINATING. IT'S STRICTLY FOR PUBLIC HEALTH [04:20:01] EMPLOYEES. THEY ACTUALLY WANT TO GIVE THEMA SUPPLEMENTAL PAY FOR TWO YEARS, AND THEY -- THE REASON THEY WANT TO DO THAT IS BECAUSE THEY SAID IF THERE'S A RESURGENCE THEY WAT TO KNOW THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE READY TO GO AGAIN. AND THAT THEY'LL COMMIT TO US. >> THEY'LL COMMIT TO US. ABSOLUTELY. >> WE ARE LOOKING -- WE DID REAH OUT TO THEM TODAY AND THEY SAID THAT WE COULD FILE FOR TWO DIFFERENT GRANTS. WE COULD FILE FOR ONE ON THE COUNTY SIDE AND ONE ON THE CITY SIDE, BECAUSE IT WOULD PROBABLY MAKE IT CLEANER SINCE -- >> IT WOULD. >> TWO DIFFERENT PAYROLLS. >> IT REALLY WOULD. >> IF I DID A COUNTY ONE, THE CITY WOULD SAY WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO, THE SAME, VICE VERSA. >> ALL RIGHT. >> AND THEN FINALLY, LET ME JUST SAY THAT WE'RE NOT DONE WITH OUR REIMBURSEMENTS, SO FROM TIME TO TIME THINGS COME THROUGH THAT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS NEED SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED. WHILE I HAVE YOU GUYS HERE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY, BECAUSE, AGAIN, I HAE EVERYBODY HERE IN ONE ROOM. THERE WAS A BILL FOR TESTING THT WAS PAID ALREADY AND YOU GUYS PAID IT, I THINK. NO, YOU HAVEN'T PAID IT. SEE, THAT, THERESA, THEY HAVEN'T PAID IT. BUT YOU HAVE THE DOLLARS TO PAY IT. WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO PAY IT. WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US? DO YOU NEED A CONSENT OR -- >> YES. >> JUST AN APPROVAL. IT'S FOR 117,000. WHEN WE WERE DOING ALL OF THE SWABBING, WE HAD TO BUY LABORATORY -- >> LET ME MAKE SURE -- THIS IS THE GOOD PART. ALL DAY LONG ALL PEOPLE WANTED WAS MONEY. HERE'S THE GOOD PART. I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- YOU WANT TO PAY IT, RIGHT? >> YOU'RE NOT ASKING US TO PAY IT? >> NO. CAN WE GET THIS WOMAN THE APPROVAL IMMEDIATELY FOR HER TO PAY A BILL? >> YES. >> OKAY. THERESA, NOW -- THAT MAKES SENS, RIGHT? >> BEFORE YOU LEAVE, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO VECTOR CONTROL IN THE NEXT 5 MINUTES, BUT BEFORE YOU LEAVE IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STEP OUT TO TRIPLE CHECK IT, BECAUSE ONE BIT OF. >> WELL, WE CAN'T USE OUR GRANT MONEY BECAUSE IT'S OLD, THE INVOICE IS AT THIS TIME, SO WE O HAVE TO USE OUR GENERAL FUND MONEY, BUT WE CAN USE OUR CHOLESTEROL FUNDS, WE HAVE FUNDS IN THE 1353 AND WE HAVE 327,000. I NEED TO PAY THE BILL FOR 117,000. MY ONLY -- OKAY. THAT SOUNDS FINE. YOU CAN WORK WITH THERESA, BUT THERESA, MY ONLY CONCERN IS FOR OUR REIMBURSEMENTS, DO I HAVE TO TRACK THAT AS -- BECAUSE WOULDNT THAT BE -- IT WAS TESTING PRE-- SO IT DIDN'T GET COVERED BY CRF, IT DIDN'T GET COVERED BY -- >> WOULDN'T I WANT TO PA THAT, GUYS? WOULDN'T I WANT TO DO THAT A FEA PA? >> ORIGINALLY THE COUNTY HAD SET ASIDE $500,000, WHEN COVID FIRST STARTED, SET ASIDE $500,000 FOR PUBLIC HEALTH TO UTILIZE. THAT'S WHERE WE WERE TRYING TO PAY IT FROM, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE FOR REIMBURSEMENT. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE PAYS IT, THAT SHE GIVES US THE INVOICE AND WE SUBMIT IT TO HAGERTY FOR FEMA PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, BECAUSE WE SHOULD BE PAID BACK 100 PERCENT ON THAT. IN WHICH CASE, I'M JUST DECLARIG NOW THAT DALE WOULD GET YOU A REIMBURSEMENT. OKAY. >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU. >> BUT HE DEFINITELY NEED TO CLAIM IT AS PA. >> YES. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANNETTE, I THINK IT'S GOOD. LIKE I SAID, I JUST -- I WISH THERE WAS SOME WAY -- MAYBE I'LL JUST NEED TO WRITE IT DOWN. THERE'S JUST SOME WAY I COULD EXPRESS TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC HW UNBELIEVABLE IT WAS, AND GOD IS GOOD, BECAUSE, LOOK, DANTE CAME ON -- WHEN DID YOU START? >> RIGHT BEFORE THIS NIGHTMARE? >> 2019. >> OKAY. AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I HATE TO SAY THIS, WE ALMOST LOST LOUIS. WE WENT FROM ALMOST HAVING ZERO RESOURCES TO A DREAM TEAM. AND ONE THING THAT MAKES ME THE MOST PROUD IS YOU GUYS HAVE GOTTEN ALONG WITH ONE ANOTHER THROUGH THE MOST TRYING OF TIMES. YOU HAVE NOT UNDERCUT ONE ANOTHR AND U YOU HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF ONE ANOTHER AND YU HAVE LIFTED EACH OTHER UP AND WORKED EACH OTHER'S SHIFTS AND I MEAN, WE'VE DONE THE UNTHINKABLE AND SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESN'T GT PRAISED ENOUGH. YOU GUYS REALLY HAVE DONE THE EXTRAORDINARY. AND I JUST REALLY -- I KNOW WE DON'T DO IT -- I KNOW YOU DON'T DO IT FOR THE PRAISE. I KNOW THAT. THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED PUBLIC HEALTH. AND NOT PRIVATE WHERE YOU CAN GO MAKE A TON OF MONEY. [04:25:04] BUT IT REALLY WAS A BLESSING TO HAVE THIS TEAM, AND I -- I DO WANT US TO THINK -- LUCKY FOR US RIGHT NOW THERE'S MONEY EVERYWHERE, SO I WANT THE COUNTY TO RECOGNIZE THAT ALL THESE GRET THINGS WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING N THE FUTURE ARE A RESULT OF US HAVING FEDERAL AND STATE PARTNERSHIPS, BUT ALSO THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING. >> AND OUR LAB IS ALSO STILL ONE OF 10 IN THE STATE, RIGHT. >> THAT'S CORRECT. YES. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> THE EQUIPMENT WE HAVE NOW, ANNETTE, VERSUS WHAT WE DID IS UNBELIEVABLE. >> HAVE YOU TAKEN BACK YOUR S TD TESTING, OR DO YOU STILL HAVE THAT PARCELED OUT. WEREN'T YOU LETTING OTHER OUTSIE CLINICS DO IT WHILE WE WERE SWAMPED. >> WE STILL HAVE THE EXISTING STAFF, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEING UTILIZED, LIKE YESTERDAY WE WERE RUNNING SIX CLINICS AT THE SAME TIME, SO WE HAVE IT O NOT OPENED UP PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES QUITE YET. WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE, I THINK. THERE WAS ONE THING I WANTED THE COMMISSIONERS TO HEAR, AND THAT IS THAT IF WE HAD TO MASS VACCINATE AGAIN, WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THAT HVAC BE FITTED FR THE FAIRGROUNDS EXHIBIT ALL B? >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE VI VIALS, WE DID NOT HAVE THAT AND COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE'VE EVEN REALLY TALKED ABOUT TOO MUCH, EXCEPT FR COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ MENTIONED IT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS, AND NW MAY BE -- AND I DID NOT AGREE WITH HIM NOW, BUT NOW THAT THIS REASON COMES UP, THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD REASON. >> IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER AND THINK ABOUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. WE MAY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, REALL, REALLY LOOK AT THAT. IT'S AN EXPENSIVE HVAC, BUT IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE TO NOT HAVE THE FACILITY IN THE FUTURE FOR MASS VACCINATIONS. IT SOUNDS SILLY, BUT ALSO INCLUE MUSIC AS WELL. AND MUSIC. I'LL MAKE SURE. >> I'M GOING TO LAY THAT SQUAREY BACK IN THE COMMISSIONER'S HANDS. I'VE GIVEN YOU ONE MORE PROJECT. >> BUT I JUST THINK HVAC, I MEA, AGAIN, WE ALREADY HAVE APPROPRIATED SO MUCH MONEY OUT THERE. IT'S NOT IN OUR FORECAST TODAY. BUT WE MIGHT HAVE TO LOOK AT THT TOMORROW AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THESE GRANTS WOULD HELP WITH FACILITIES, BUT IF YOU WOULD WOK WITH MARIA ON THIS AND HAGERTY, THERE MIGHT BE A WAY TO HVAC -- MIGHT BE A WAY TO GET THAT HVAC SYSTEM THERE, BECAUSE IT'S ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL. >> ALL RIGHT. AND I THINK SOME OF THE QUESTIOS WE HAD, JUDGE, I'M GLAD YOU'RE WANTING TO MEET AND I WOULD LOVE TO MEET WITH DALE AND LISA AS WELL FOR THE FACILITY, THERE ISA CHARGE TO BE OUT THERE. IF WE COULD SEE THOSE INVOICES E COULD PAY THEM. THAT IS WHAT THE $18 MILLION IS FOR. THEY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU PAY THEM. >> SO THEY COULD SEND THEM TO US AND WE COULD PAY THEM. WE'RE PAYING AMERICAN BANK CENTER. IF THEY COULD SEND US THOSE, WE DON'T WANT TO DUPLICATE PAYMENTS. >> NO, NO, NO. >> THERESA? ARE YOU LIKE SO HAPPY ABOUT THAT? >> YEAH. WE WILL GET YOU THOSE. YEAH, SO ALL THE RICHARD BORCHAD FAIRGROUNDS. >> WE'VE ALREADY CRFED THOSE. WE HAVE THIS GRANT UNTIL -- >> WELL, WHAT I'LL DO IS -- WE'L TAKE NOTICE OF HOW MUCH IT WAS, OKAY, AND SEE IF WE CAN APPROPRIATE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE. LET ME TELL YOU WHERE WE'RE REALLY HURTING IF YOU REALLY WAT TO KNOW IN MY OPINION. THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT HELPED US FUND OUR SDOH PROGRAM AND ALSO HELPED US FUND -- I'M TRYING TO THINK. THERE'S ONE MORE. >> I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT I THINK IT'S SDOH. I THINK WE GOT THEM REIMBURSED FOR REALIZATION. BUT SDOH AND THE COVID CLINIC AE TOUGHIES IN THE SENSE OF THE TIME. WE'LL GET THAT MONEY, BUT IT'S A LOT OF -- A LOT OF WORK. WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GET REIMBURSED, KNOWING WE'VE ALREAY REIMBURSED OURSELVES. IS THERE A WAY WE COULD WORK TOGETHER ON THAT? >> DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE ON THAT? >> I THINK THAT ONE IS -- IF THT ONE DOESN'T WORK, WE COULD GET T MAY BE FROM THE HEALTH EQUITY GRANT THAT'S COMING UP. >> I THINK WHAT DANTE IS SAYING, IT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR VACCINATING. >> IT'S GOING BACKWARDS. >> FAIR ENOUGH. LOOK, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE HEARING, DALE, SHE'S GOT DOLLARS AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, IF E DON'T MEET, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE CAN REIMBURSE. >> RIGHT. WE HAVE SOME OVERTIME THAT IS NT COVERED UNDER FEMA PA BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE IT IN OUR DISASTER FINANCING FOR VACCINATING. MAYBE THAT COULD WORK. THAT PROBABLY COULD. >> IS IT VACCINATING IN 2020 OR ONLY IN 2021? [04:30:02] >> I'M SORRY. >> IT GOES BACK TO DECEMBER OF 2020. >> THAT COULD WORK, DALE. >> LET US -- LET US DO THAT. WHEN WE DO THAT, I'LL LET YOU WORK WITH DALE ON GETTING THOSE REIMBURSEMENTS. >> OKAY, YEAH. >> ALL RIGHT. NOW TIME IS UP AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BEING HERE TODAY, AND I'M SO HAPPY ABOUT TE REQUEST TO MAKE YOU THE ASSISTAT COUNTY DIRECTOR. THE COUNTY'S NEEDS ARE COMPLETEY UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT FROM THE CITY'S. AND EVEN THOUGH WE ARE ONE FAMILY, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT OUR COUNTY ASPECTS, WHICH ARE SUPER DIFFERENT, AS YOU WELL KNOW, THY NEED MOBILE MEDICAL ATTENTION, THEY NEED BILINGUAL ATTENTION, THEY NEED INFRASTRUCTURE ATTENTION. THAT'S WHY WE NEED THIS TITLE CHANGE IN MY HUMBLE OPINION. I SUPPORT THIS WHOLEHEARTEDLY. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU AND APPRECIATE THE COURT. YEP. THANKS, GUYS. >> OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO VECTOR. IT'S THE LAST ONE OF THE DAY. IT'S A GREAT ONE. IT ACTUALLY HAS AN IMPACT WITH ANNETTE'S GROUP. WE'RE MONITORING -- EVERY TIME YOU MONITOR WEST NILE AND FIND LARVAE, SHE WORKS WITH DISHES T, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY KEEP THAT UNDER CONTROL. SO I'LL BE ASKING YOU IN ADDITIN TO YOUR BUDGET WHERE ARE WE WITH ALL THIS MOSQUITO INCREASE ON WEST NILE AND -- WHAT'S OUR OTHR FAVORITE ONE, ANNETTE? THERE'S TWO. >> ST. LOUIS ENCEPHALITIS. >> VECTOR CONTROL. >> AS I SAY, TAKE US HOME EASY. >> GO AHEAD. >> OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON. JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. WE'RE REPRESENTING THE VECTOR CONTROL 3092. WE HAD SUBMITTED A BUDGET, BUT E WANT YOU TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION -- INTO CONSIDERATION THAT WE DID MAKE N ADJUSTMENT IN PERSONNEL REQUESTS. AFTER WE HAD THE RAINSTORMS, WE KINDED REALIZED THAT WE NEEDED T LEAST ANOTHER VECTOR CONTROL TECHNICIAN AND WE WANTED TO RECLASTO RECLASSIFY THE TWO TECHNICIANS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THAT DEPARTMENT TOA FOREMAN STAT AND US AN ASSISTANT STATUS SO WHEN THEY'RE OUT IN TE FIELD THEY CAN MAKE DECISIONS AD SCHEDULING ACCORDINGLY, SOMETIMS THEY WORK IN THE EVENINGS AND SO THEY'RE THE ONES THAT KNOW WHAT DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE WHEN THEY'RE OUT THERE SPRAYING. SO WE HAVE -- >> AND HOW ABOUT YOUR SPRAYERS? IN THE LAST TWO YEARS WE'VE FUNDED TWO DIFFERENT SPRAYERS? >> ARE YOU GOOD ON ALL OF THAT? >> WE HAVE ONE ALREADY THAT WE ARE USING AND WE HAVE ONE THAT WE'RE STILL NEEDING TO -- IT'S LAST BUDGET WE REQUESTED THE BUFFALO TURBINE WHICH WE RECEIVED. IT'S UP AND RUNNING, AND THIS BUDGET WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE, BUT WE'RE -- IT'S JUST KIND OF A SLW ORDER. IT'S A SLOW ORDER BECAUSE OF COVID, BUT WE'RE HOPING TO GET T IN OUR INVENTORY BEFORE THE BUDGET YEAR. >> OH, BUT WE'VE ALREADY PAID FR IT. >> YES. WE ALREADY PAID FOR ONE. >> WE'RE JUST WAITING ON IT BECAUSE OF -- >> WE'RE WAITING FOR ONE. WE HAVE ONE BUFFALO TURBINE ALREADY. YOU'RE GOOD ON THAT? >> YES. THIS FISCAL YEAR WE'RE IN WE REQUESTED FOR ANOTHER ONE AND BECAUSE OF COVID IT'S KIND OF SLOW ORDERING, BUT WE'RE HOPING TO GET IT INTO OUR INVENTORY AND START SPRAYING ALSO. >> TWO SHOULD COVER US. >> TWO, YES. >> YOUR BUDGET IS -- I DON'T SEE THE PERSONNEL. IS IT ON THE SCREEN? >> WE DIDN'T HAVE IT AT THE TIME WE PREPARED THIS. THE INFORMATION I HAVE, IT WILL NOT HAVE THIS. WE'LL NEED TO ADD THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME. IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE YOUR BUDGET IS STEADY. THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGES, THE VEHICLE, WHICH WE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT. >> AND YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP THE TURBINE, SO IT'S JUST THE PERSONNEL? >> THAT'S CORRECT, JUDGE. AND THE REASON WE HAVEN'T REQUESTED TOO MUCH IN OUR BUDGET IS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN APPLYING FOR GRANTS FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, AND WE RECEIVED THOSE GRANTS, SO THAT'S KIND OF HELPED US OUT WITH THE CHEMICALS AND EQUIPMENT AND WHATEVER WE NEED O PURCHASE WITH THAT GRANT. SO IT'S HELPED US OUT A LOT. >> UH-HUH. >> DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? >> YEAH. THE LAST TIME WE USED THE TURBINE, WE DONE REAL GOOD WITH THAT, THE TURBINE, IT GOES IN TE AIR AND GOES IN THE WATER UP TO [04:35:03] 300 FEET INTO THE FLOODED AREAS. >> UH-HUH. >> WE'RE GETTING 300 FEET MORE INTO THE AREA SO WE GET MORE LARVAE KILLED LIKE THAT. >> IT'S GREAT. I WOULD REALLY LIKE IT. WE TAKE EVERYBODY FOR GRANTED SOMETIMES. IF YOU GUYS GET A CHANCE AND THINK ABOUT IT, WE'LL SEND YOU THE NEXT HOSPITAL DISTRICT MEETING AND YOU CAN DO IT LIKE T COMPUTER, SO YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO OVER THERE. YOU OUGHT TO GET ON PUBLIC COMMENT, WRITE A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, THREE LINES AND REMEMBER O THANK THEM, BECAUSE THEY GAVE YU THOSE FUNDS TWO TIMES. AND -- NEXT TIME YOU NEED SOMETHING, THEY CAN THERE FOR YU IF THEY SEE THE NEXUS BETWEEN TE AND THE GIVE OF THE WEST NILE -- THE AVOIDANCE OF WEST NILE OR S. LOUIS. >> I THINK THEY WOULD LOVE IT. THEY WOULD APPRECIATE IT. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW I GOT A REQUEST FROM THE MAYOR AGAIN. >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WORKED IT OUT ALREADY. >> RIGHT NOW IT'S HURTING, BECAUSE NO CHEMICAL IS COMING IN BECAUSE OF COVID AND THE PROCESSING FOR MAKING THE CHEMICAL IS VERY SLOW. THEY'VE BEEN ASKING FOR US TO HELP THEM, AT LEAST WITH SOME CHEMICALS SO THEY CAN CONTROL TE MOSQUITOES IN THEIR AREA. DO YOU HAVE IT, VICTOR, TO GIVE? DO YOU HAVE THE CHEMICALS TO HEP THEM? YES, WE HAVE THE CHEMICALS TO HELP THEM OUT. THEY JUST NEED TO ASK FOR IT AND WITH A BLESSING WITH THE BOSS, F THEY ASK ME. YEAH, GO. >> AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, IF YOU GUYS RUN OUT AND WE CAN'T GET, CALL MY OFFICE, BECAUSE I'LL GET IT FROM ANOTHER COUNTY. >> RIGHT. >> THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. WE HELP EACH OTHER. >> THEY JUST TOLD ME WE NEEDED SOME, SHE CAN'T HELP US OUT. >> ANNETTE. >> RODRIGUEZ. >> OKAY. GUYS. WELL, LOOK, THIS IS KIND OF A GOOD FEEL STORY IN A WAY, BECAUE IT WAS NOT AN EASY SELL GOING TO GET BUFFALO TURBINE SPRAYERS FRM THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT, BUT WE DD IT AND NOW IT'S PAYING DIVIDENDS. >> YES, JUDGE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, WE'VE BEEN ASSISTING OTHER COMMUNITIES HERE WITHIN THE PAST FEW WEEKS. >> OKAY. GOOD. >> ALL RIGHT. WELL, YOUR BUDGET IS EASY. I SAID GO EASY AND YOU DID, EXCEPT ARE THE PERSONNEL PIECES NOT BEFORE US, BUT IT'S JUST ONE PERSON. >> IT'S TWO. >> IT'S TWO. >> YES, MA'AM. >> AND YOU NEEDED TWO BECAUSE -- >> I'M SORRY, IT'S ONLY ONE AND WE'REWEWE'RE REQUESTING A FOREMAN AND AN ASSISTANT FOREMAN. ONE ADDITIONAL. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? SO OBVIOUSLY THE RAINS ARE SOMEWHAT PREDICTABLE. WE'RE IN PROFOUND DROUGHT TYPICALLY. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE IN TOUGH BUDGET, NOT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE MONEY, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MANY REQUESTS. ISN'T IT POSSIBLE THAT PERHAPS THAT WE COULD THINK ABOUT THIS S A TEMPORARY HIRE WHEN THE RAINY SEASON EXISTS, LIKE DURING TROPICAL WEATHER. LITERALLY IT'S ALWAYS THE SAME. MAY, YOU KNOW, THROUGH AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER. I JUST WONDERED IF THAT MIGHT BE A -- WOULD YOU CONSIDER THAT AS AN ALTERNATIVE IF WE COULDN'T AFFORD IT? >> WE DO. WE HAVE HERBICIDE TECHNICIAN IN THE ROAD AND BRIDGE DEPARTMENT THAT WE ALSO LICENSED FOR MOSQUITO SPRAYING TO HELP US. HE'S AN ALTERNATE, SO WHEN IT'S MOSQUITO SEASON AND IT'S REALLY BAD, WE DO DISPATCH HIM TO HELP VICTOR SO THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST THE THREE, BT A FOURTH PERSON. THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR ANOTHER VECTOR TECHNICIAN SO WE CAN HAVE FOUR STAFF ALWAYS THERE. YOU KNOW, WORKING. >> OKAY. I'M TRYING TO GET CREATIVE. THAT'S ALL. TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN DO IT. IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT AND WE KNOW THAT, BUT IF THINGS GET TIGHT, THAT MAY NOT RISE TO THE TOP OF THE LIST. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD FIGURE IT OUT WHEN WE'RE IN THAT ZONE OF TROPICAL WEATHER, YOU KNOW? >> WE'LL MAKE IT WORK, JUDGE. THE STAFF CAN MAKE IT WORK. ZONE YOU WILL. OF COURSE, WE COULD ALWAYS ASK THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. >> TO INCREASE. >> WE CAN ALWAYS ASK THEM. >> I HATE DOING IT TO THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE ALSO STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW TOO. BUT WE COULD AND THE WORST THEY COULD SAY IS NO. I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GETTING SOME GOOD SUCCESS WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. >> WE ARE. >> WE ARE. >> SO WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU'RE NOT SPRAYING? WE CHECK THE BUILDINGS FOR TERMITES, RATS, ANY OTHER SCHENECTADYS AROUND THE [04:40:01] BUILDINGS, SPRAYING THE OUTSIDE INSECTS. >> THE VECTOR TECHNICIANS CARRY FOUR LICENSES. >> YOU THINK YOU CAN KEEP YOURSELF REAL BUSY IF WE -- >> I'M ALREADY REAL BUSY. >> I'M ALREADY REAL BUSY. >> I KNOW THE RAINS ARE CREATING MOSQUITO HAVOC. >> IN THE WINTER WE FIXED THE MACHINES, WE HAVE THE MACHINES AND WE CHANGE THE OIL. IN THE WINTER WE'RE ALWAYS BUSY. WE HAVE A SHORT WINTER ALL THE TIME. SO AS SOON AS WE GET TO IT, THE MACHINES ARE READY TO GO BY SPRING. >> UH-HUH. >> VICTOR, ARE YOU STILL HAVING PROBLEMS WITH RATS IN THE JAIL? >> AS FAR AS I FOUND THAT LAST TIME WE GOT RID OF THEM. THANK YOU. >> JUST TOOK ME SEVEN DAYS. >> THE KITCHEN -- REDOING THE KITCHEN WAS A HUGE IMPACT TO THAT, I THINK. >> I FOUND A LOT OF OPENINGS IN THE KITCHEN THAT I ORDERED TO CLOSE UP AND THAT'S WHAT REALLY HELPED THE PROBLEM. >> AND ALSO WE INCREASED THE TRASH MOVEMENT. >> RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S HUGE TOO. >> THE MAIN PROBLEM, THEY WERE THROWING AWAY THE FOOD. >> AND LEAVING IT THERE A WEEK. AND THROWING IT OUTSIDE. >> UH-HUH. >> I'VE SEEN THAT, VERY CONCERND THAT UNSANITARY, IT'S CREATING MORE RATS FROM THE SEWER. >> OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO OBVIOUSLY CONSIDR IT. IT'S BASICALLY OUR RECOMMENDATIN TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND IT COMES BACK TO US FOR APPROVAL, BUT I THINK IF -- NOW THAT I KNW THAT YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE A PERSONNEL REQUEST, I THINK YOU SHOULD BE ON THEIR AGENDA. >> OKAY. WELL, YOU GOT US OUT OF HERE EARLY, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY CRAZY GOOD, BECAUSE ALL WEEK LONG, WE DID IT. >> ONE HOUR EARL. EARLY. >> ONE WEEK LONG AND WE LET EVERYBODY DO WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO AND HAVE A GOOD LUNCH. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SUMMARIZE ALL THIS STUFF IF WE HAVE A FEW MINUTES. MY STAFF AND I ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL THE REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE FOR ALL THE SUPPLIES AND STUFF THAT WE NEED TO DO AND I'L TRY TO LIMIT IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN. BUT YOU ASKED FOR WHETHER OUR PERSONNEL REQUESTS WERE FOR AND WHAT OUR RECLASSIFICATIONS WERE. I PROVIDED YOU A LIST AND IT DOS NOT INCLUDE THE ONE FROM VECTOR CONTROL. THIS SHOWS ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENS THAT ARE REQUESTING INDIVIDUALS, THE FIRST TWO POSITIONS ARE REQUESTS AND WE'LL MAKE SURE COMMISSIONER CHESNEY AND GONZALZ GETS A COPY OF THIS. AS YOU SEE FOR RIGHT NOW WITH TE NEW POSITION REQUEST, A GENERAL FUND IS -- THEY'RE REQUESTING 40 NEW POSITIONS AT A COST OF $1.7 MILLION. FOR OUR OTHER OPERATING FUNDS, WHICH IS OUR ROAD FUNDS AND OTHR FUNDS, SEVEN POSITIONS AT 587,000, NOW, THE SPECIAL REVENUE, A LOT TO DO WITH THE -- THE VETERANS CEMETERY, SO THAT S A LITTLE BIT HIGH, BUT WE KNOW E HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT IF -- ONCE WE BRING THAT IN, WE HAVE O BUDGET FOR, THAT'S 633, SO A TOTAL OF NEW POSITIONS WOULD BE 2.9 MILLION AND MOST OF THAT IS THE CEMETERY WHICH IS RIGHT AT - PROBABLY THE MAJORITY WILL BE REFUNDED BY THE GLO. >> NEXT IS THE RECLASSIFICATION WHERE EVERYONE IS REQUESTING --A RECLASSIFICATION FOR THEIR JOB S WELL AS POSITIONS. YOU'LL SEE A SUMMARY ON PAGE H3 FOR THE GENERAL FUND, THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE DA. WE DO THOSE SEPARATELY. FOR THE GENERAL FUND, THE RECLASSIFICATION IS $293,005. AND THE NEXT PAGE IS WHERE WE ACTUALLY INCLUDE THE DA. THE DA IS ON PAGE FOUR. THERE'S 46 EMPLOYEES AT 384,000. SPECIAL REVENUE WHICH IS MOSTLY COVERED BY THE PRETRIAL DIVERSIN AS WELL AS THEIR DRUG FORFEITURE FUNDS. 61,000 FOR A TOTAL OF 446475 AND OUR EARLY OPERATING FUNDS WHICH IS OUR ROAD IF FUND, OUR LAW LIBRARY AND OUR SECURITIES AND THAT'S THE LAST PAGE YOU'LL SEE THERE, THE TOTAL OF $112,149. WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO DO IS PLEASE REVIEW THIS AND GO THROUGH YOUR NOTES AND PLEASE WORK THROUGH YOUR SCENARIOS AND TRY TO GIVE ME WHAT YOU BELIEVE YOUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE AND WHAT YOU WOULD SUPPORT ON I CAN DETERMINE WHAT I WANTED TO PRESENT TO YOU AS RECOMMENDATIOS FOR OUR BUDGET AS WE PROCEED FORWARD. AS THE JUDGE SAID, WE HAVE A 3.5 PERCENT CAP AND I BELIEVE WITH THE NEW LAWS THAT WERE PASSED, I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN O ANY HIGHER THAN THAT. SO WE JUST NEED TO SEE WHAT OUR NEW PROPERTY IS TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH WE CAN TRY TO FUND, SO WE'L TRY TO DO THE BEST WE CAN TO TRY TO EITHER LIMIT THE -- WHAT WE [04:45:07] NEED TO CHARGE AND TRY TO GET AS LOW AS WE CAN. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN REACH THE NO REVENUE TAX, BUT WE'LL TRY TO DO THE BEST WE CAN. I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO GET SOMETHING FROM Y'ALL. TAKE AS LONG AS YOU NEED TO REVIEW THIS, BUT AT SOME POINT N TIME, SUBMIT WHAT YOU BELIEVE YU WOULD BE WILLING TO SUPPORT. AND I THINK -- THAT I CAN USE Y'ALL'S SCENARIOS TOGETHER TO TY TO BEST REPRESENT TO Y'ALL WHATI BELIEVE Y'ALL THINK WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR RUNNING THE COUNTY IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, DALE. >> CAN YOU REMIND US OF OUR SCHEDULE? HERE, LET ME PULL UP MY CALENDAR. NEXT WEEK, DO WE HAVE ANY -- OUR NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED COURT IS THE 23RD. >> JUNE 23RD. AND WE DID NOT GET TO MEET WITH THE COUNTY CLERK, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO SCHEDULE HER -- >> WE HAVE A TENTATIVE DATE OF JULY 6TH. OKAY. JULY 6TH. HER INFORMATION IS ALREADY HERE. IT COULD CHANGE. >> BUT IT'S HERE. RIGHT. SO WE'VE GOT THAT. SO THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR BUDGET DISCUSSION IS WHEN THE CALENDAR? >> I DON'T THINK WE HIT THINGS HARD, DALE. >> FIRST PART OF AUGUST, BECAUSE JULY 25TH IS WHEN WE RECEIVE OUR TAX NOTICE. FROM HERE UNTIL THEN WE'RE GOING TO STAY STILL. >> OKAY. SO WE'VE GOT SOME TIME TO DIGEST ALL THIS. >> WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS AND I'LL BE WORKING WITH DARRELL TO MAKE SURE WE GO THROUGH HIS LISTS OF WHAT HE NEEDS AND STUFF. AND THERE'S SEVERAL THAT WE'LL PROBABLY NEED TO SIT DOWN, WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO NEED OR SOMETHIG YOU WANT. AND THAT'S WHY WE TRIED TO ELIMINATE SOME STUFF, BECAUSE IF WE PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER, I PT A SCENARIO, AND I PUT THE THING TOGETHER, IF WE PUT EVERYTHING, IT'S $5.6 MILLION. >> RIGHT, AND CAN YOU ALSO -- YU KNOW HOW THERE'S LIKE ALWAYS FOR OR FIVE ITEMS THAT WE'VE ALREADY MADE DECISIONS ON THAT IMPACT US LIKE WE DID FOR -- >> WE'RE DOING THAT NOW. WE'VE ALREADY MADE THAT IMPACT DECISION, WE'VE ALREADY MADE THE DECISION THAT OUR PENSION FUNDS NEED TO HAVE SOME MONEY PLACED N THERE. >> AS WE GET THERE, WE'LL SHOW OUR BUDGET CHALLENGES WHERE WE SHOW, IT'S OUR CONTINUOUS PAY THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE, THE INCREASES IN OUR RETIREMENT, BECAUSE IT DID GO UP. ON SOME OF OUR WORKERS' COMP, EVEN THOUGH THE RATES WENT UP, E ALREADY HAD A HIGHER RATE BEFOR, SO IT'S GOING DOWN. THAT'S A GOOD THEY'RE I DON'T AD SOME OTHER STUFF WE ALREADY NOTICED WHEN WE -- IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR IMAGE WE'VE ADDED SOME STUFF TO A FEW OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WASN'T ALREADY IN THE BUDGET. >> YEAH, RIGHT. RIGHT. >> OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. >> I BELIEVE THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING ON THE ONE SHEET WHICH SHOWS YOU WHAT OUR BUDGET IS, AL THE STUFF WE'RE GOING THROUGH. >> RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SUPER. ALL RIGHT, * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.