[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]

MOTION PASSES 4-0. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE THERE ANY ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THE

BOARD WOULD LIKE TO PULL? >> MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT

AGENDA ITEM AS SUBMITTED. >> THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDAA-L.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON ANY OF THOSE? SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

[1. Discuss and consider providing funding assistance for the 2026 Nueces County Operation Health & Wellness - Innovative Readiness Training (IRT) Medical Mission in the amount of $20,000; and all related matters.]

ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

MOTION PASSES 4-0. MOVING TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.

ITEM 3A. THIS IS COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ ITEM AND HE IS NOT HERE. SO DOES SOMEONE ELSE WANT TO?

>> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS AS SUBMITTED.

I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ ON THE IR T PROGRAM. EDWARD IS ALSO HERE AND EDWARD IS INTIMATELY INVOLVED WITH THIS AND FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE ARE DOING. THIS $20,000 IS BUDGETED. IT WILL COME OUT OF BUDGETED FUNDS AND I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS AND MOVE

FORWARD. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

>> THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE FUNDING IS COMING FROM. THERE ARE NOT BUDGETED FUNDS FOR THIS IF I'M UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING OF, JUDGE, DID I

HEAR YOU SAY SOMETHING TOO? >> YES. I JUST HAD A QUESTION, AS WELL ABOUT THE FUNDING BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE PAST, THIS BEEN, CAN WE ALL COME UP WITH FUNDS TOGETHER OF OUR PRIVATE FUNDS THAT WE PUT TOWARDS THIS TO HELP.

>> OKAY. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT, COMMISSIONER. SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS ARE USUALLY THE ONES YOU DISTRIBUTE AMONG YOURSELVES AND THEN WE PUT IT IN THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEARS AN ACTUAL ITEM.

>> I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO PUT IN MY 5,000 IF THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. 20 DIVIDE, SORRY, 4,000.

CAN'T DO MY MATH. HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT IF THAT'S THE CONSENSUS OF THE COURT? I GUESS WE'LL NEED TO KNOW FROM COMMISSIONER PUSLEY?

>> I KNOW I WAS ASKED TO HELP 2,000 OUT OF MY BUDGET IS THAT A

SEPARATE FUND? >> COMMISSIONER, I THINK THAT PRISCILLA SAID YOU WERE DOING SOMETHING?

DIABETES FUND? >> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT APPLIES

TO THIS PROJECT. >> I DON'T KNOW.

>> I KNOW. >> I'LL VERIFY, AND IF IT IS, I WILL REDUCE IT TO 3K FOR YOUR SHARE.

>> I'M WILLING TO DO THE EQUAL AMOUNT OR HOWEVER WE DO THAT.

I GAVE $2,000 BUT I'LL ADD THE EXTRA TWO IF IT'S 4,000 EACH.

>> OKAY. SO NOT TO PUT EVERYONE ON THE

SPOT BUT COMMISSIONER PUSLEY? >> WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO MODIFY

MY ORIGINAL? >> I NEED TO KNOW IF EVERYONE IS

WILLING TO PUT IN THEIR 4,000. >> COMMISSIONERS SO THIS PROJECT AGAIN, IF DONATED THE MONEY GOES, WE HAVE ABOUT 220 SOLDIERS COMING JULY 13TH THROUGH THE 14TH AND THIS IS TO HELP SUPPORT THEIR OPERATIONS FOR THE TWO WEEKS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ENACTING THIS OPERATION, SO WE'LL BE SET UP IN THREE LOCATIONS. ONE IS AT THE WEST MIDDLE SCHOOL AND OVER THERE AT THE MISSION OF MERCY SO THIS IS OUR YEARLY PROGRAM AND THESE FUNDS GO TO HELP SUPPORT THE OPERATION FOR THINGS THAT WE NEED. SO IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED COMMISSIONERS. YOU KNOW THIS IS HELPING TO SERVE AT LEAST 22 TO 5,000 PEOPLE A YEAR DEPENDING ON THE

YEAR PLUS, OUR ANIMALS. >> I GUESS IF YOU WANT TO AMEND YOUR MOTION WHERE EVERYONE PUTS IN 4,000 ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE WANTS TO DO. JUDGE I ASSUME YOU ARE OKAY WITH

THAT. >> I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

>> THANK YOU. >> I WOULD AMEND MY MOTION TO STATE THAT THE FUNDS FOR THIS WILL BE OBTAINED BY EACH COMMISSIONER PUTTING IN AN EQUAL AMOUNT UP TO THE $20,000.

>> AND THE JUDGE. >> YES, SIR.

SANDRA CONFIRMED THE 2,000 DIABETES IS IN ADDITION TO THIS

22 K SO IT WILL BE 4,000 EACH. >> OKAY.

THAT WOULD BE, IS THERE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PUSLEY TO INCLUDE THE FUNDING BY ALL MEMBERS OF THE COURT AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHO THE SECOND ONE WAS? SECONDED.

[00:20:02]

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY APPOSED? NONE.

[2. Discuss and consider approval of Change Order No. 1 for the Hilltop Community Center Renovations project and all related matters. ]

[3. Discuss and consider approval of Change Order No. 2 for the Hilltop Community Center Renovations project.]

ITEM PASSES 4-0. ITEM THREE A2 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL FOR HILL TOP COMMUNITY CENTER RENOVATIONS.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM MR. M. CATHARIR PUSKAR.

I BELIEVE IT'S PUBLIC WORK BUT I THINK IT'S YOUR FUNDING?

>> YES, SIR. IN FACT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, A COURT APPROVE ITEMS NUMBER 3A, 2 AND 3 WHICH IS CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO FOR THE HILL TOP COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE FUNDS TO COVER THESE CHANGE ORDERS ARE IN MY BUDGET ALREADY. I WILL SAY REMEMBER WHEN YOU RESTORE OLD BUILDINGS AND TEAR INTO THE WALL THERE'S A FAIR SHARE OF SURPRISES AND THAT RESULTED IN THESE TWO CHANGE ORDERS. THEY ARE SIGNIFICANT BUT WE HAVE THE MONEY TO COVER THEM IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET.

>> I BELIEVE THESE ARE IN YOUR HURRICANE HARVEY PROJECT FUND?

>> YES. >> I'LL SECOND THAT MOTIONS.

THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER? SEEING NONE. HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ITEMS 3 A2 AND 3A 3 PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAVING AYE. ANY APPOSED? HEARING NONE. THAT MOTION PASSES FOR 3 A2 AND

[4. Discuss, consider, and take action approving execution of Job Order No. NCCP-028 under the Job Order Contracting Agreement with Grace Paving & Construction, Inc., in the amount of $69,461.51 for fence installation at Amistad Veterans Memorial Park and to approve the associated Gordian Group fee in the amount of $3,473.08, for a total project cost of $72,934.59; and all related matters.]

3. MOVING TO ITEM 3 A4.

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION APPROVING EXECUTION OF JOB ORDER UNDER THE JOB ORDER CONTRACTING AGREEMENT WITH GRACE PAVING AND CONSTRUCTION IN THE AMOUNT OF $69400 FOR FENCE INSTALLATION AND APPROVE THE GROUP FEE IN THE AMOUNT OF 437408 OF 7293459 AND BEFORE WE TAKE A MOTION ON THAT, IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THE FUNDING SOURCE ON THAT BECAUSE I HAD A QUESTION

ON THAT? >> COMMISSIONER PRECINCT TWO

GENERAL CAPITAL FUNDS. >> PRECINCT TWO GENERAL CAPITAL FUND. OKAY.

IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS WITH THE FUNDING SOURCE BEING PRECINCT TWO'S GENERAL CAPITAL FUND?

>> SO MOVED. >> I MAKE THE MOTION.

>> I HEARD JUDGE FIRST MADE THE MOTION AND I'LL TAKE COMMISSIONER PUSLEY AS THE SECOND.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY APPOSED? SAME SIGN.

[5. Discuss and consider the authorization of premiums for a one-year policy term for Property and Liability Insurance Renewals, per Broker of Record; and all related matters.]

HEARING NONE ITEM PASSES 4-0. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE AUTHORIZATION OF PREMIUMS FOR ONE YEAR POLICY TERM FOR PROPERTY AND LIABILITY INSURANCE REMOVAL FOR THE BROKER OF RECORD AND ALL RELATED MATTERS.

MR. CARLISLE IS HERE. PLEASE LET THE RECORD NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ HAS ARRIVED.

WHO WILL TAKE THIS, THIS IS GOOD MINUTES FOR THE COUNTY SO SPEND

A COUPLE OF MINUTES ON THAT. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> YES, SIR. IR T.

THAT WAS ITEM? HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

THAT WAS 3 A1. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS THE EXPIRING 25-26

COVERAGE YEAR LAST YEAR. >> WAS ENSURED FOR $75 MILLION AT A COST OF $2.6 MILLION. THE RECOMMENDED RENEWAL PROPOSE FOR THE 26-27 COVERAGE YEAR PROVIDES 150 MILLION IN COVERAGE AT A COST OF $2.4 MILLION RESULTING IN A PREMIUM DECREASE OF APPROXIMATELY ABOUT $187,000 OR APPROXIMATELY 7 PERCENT WHILE DOUBLING THE COVERAGE LIMIT. THIS YEARS WELL, THE CARRIERS CAME BACK AND SAID HE'S GOING TO BLANKET OUR COVERAGES THEREFORE, BEING INSTEAD OF 3 PERCENT, 500,000 PER PROPERTY, BLANKET COVERAGE WE CAN STACK MULTIPLE PROPERTIES IN THE EVENT OF A STORM TO WHERE MORE THAN ONE PROPERTY UNDER THAT DEDUCTIBLE.

SO THAT'S AN ADVANTAGE IN THE COUNTY'S BEST BENEFIT FOR THIS YEAR AND THOSE COVERAGES ARE A WIND STORM, CYBER-SECURITY, AUTOMOBILE LIABILITY, LAW ENFORCEMENT COVERAGES, CRIME, BOILER COVERAGE, HANGAR LIABILITY AND OUR MARINE POLICIES. IF TOMMY WOULD LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE TO THAT BY ALL MEANS I WELCOME HIM TO THE

PODIUM. >> MR. CARLISLE?

>> HELLO EVERYONE. SO THE SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS

[00:25:05]

UNDERSTAND THAT THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES DOES A LOT OF THE COVERAGE AND WE JUST PUT THEM BACK INTO THE FORMAT.

THE PORTION THAT WE DIRECTLY RIGHT WHICH IS THE PROPERTY, ACTUALLY WENT DOWN ABOUT 22%. IF YOU START LOOKING DOWN THE LEVEL, SOME OF THE OTHER COVERAGES WENT UP AND IT'S BECAUSE OF YOUR LOSS HISTORY. WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO ON THE NEGOTIATION OF THOSE. IT'S DONE DIRECTLY WITH TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES BUT ONE THING I WANT TO TELL YOU IS THE PROPERTY ITSELF IS VERY POSITIVE.

YOU CAN TAKE YOUR LIMIT TO 75 TO 150 MILLION SO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT'S THE LOSS LIMIT FOR A NAME STORM.

YOU HAVE VALUES OF CONSIDERABLY MORE SO YOU BUY A LIMIT AND THE MARKET HAS GOTTEN CONSIDERABLY SOFT TEAR LAST FEW YEARS BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT MORE CAPACITY. SO WHEN IT GETS SOFT WE GO IN AND TRY TO GET TRULY A LOT MORE COMPREHENSIVE COVERAGE BESIDES JUST RATE BREAK. THE BLANKET AMOUNT IS VERY POSITIVE. PLUS, DOUBLING THE LIMIT, SO THE ACTUAL PROPERTY BY DOUBLING YOUR LIMIT, OURS WENT DOWN $228,000.

SO IT'S ARE POSITIVE FOR THE COUNTY.

LET'S SEE. ALL THE THERE COVERAGES OF THE DEDUCTING STAYS THE SAME. YOU ARE JUST HAVING A FEW MORE CARRIERS PUT INTO THIS TO GET THE PREMIUM AND IN FACT, YESTERDAY WHEN WE DECIDED WE HAD TALKED THAT YA'LL WERE PROBABLY GOING TO LOOKING AT THE 150, WE LOOKED AND GOT IT 21,000 DOLLARS LESS YESTERDAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I DO. IT'S FUNNY, I HAD A CONSTITUENT BRING THIS UP YESTERDAY. MAYBE THEY SAW THE AGENDA AND IT CAME UP IN CONVERSATION AND SO THE QUESTION WAS, WELL HOW DOES THE COUNTY DECIDE HOW MUCH TO COVER? OBVIOUSLY 150 IS NOT ANYWHERE NEAR OUR TOTAL VALUE OR ASSETS THAT WE HAVE COVERED BUT THE WAY I EXPLAIN, WHAT I REMEMBER FROM PRIOR PRESENTATIONS AND MEETINGS WE'VE HAD WITH YOU IS BASICALLY, ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS HAVING TO KIND OF PICK AND CHOOSE HOW MUCH COVERAGE BECAUSE IT'S GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN'T DO 100 PERCENT BECAUSE JUST THE PRICE ITSELF.

>> IT WOULD BE SILLY BECAUSE THE ONE THING THAT I WANT TO KEEP REMINDING YOU IS THAT YOU ARE BUYING A LOSS LIMIT FOR NAMED STORMS. THIS IS NOT A FIRE.

YOU HAVE FULL COVERAGE ON FIRE. SO IT WOULD BE, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY SILLY BUT THE IDEA THAT YOU WOULD HAVE CATASTROPHE AND LOSS ON EVERY BUILDINGS VERY UNLIKELY AND WHEN YOU SEE THAT THE DIFFERENCE, FOR INSTANCE IF YOU LOOK AT HOW LITTLE IT COSTS FROM GOING 125 TO 150 IT'S VERY LITTLE DIFFERENCE AND THE REASON WHY IS THEY DON'T THINK THE'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND THEY DO A LOT OF STUDY AND STORM STUDIES. MOST PEOPLE TRY TO ENSURE AROUND 30 PERCENT OF THEIR TOTAL VALUE. SO I'M A LITTLE BIT MORE AND SOME NOT. BECAUSE OF THE PREVIOUS YEARS THE INSURANCE WENT UP SO MUCH THAT MOST OF THE LOCAL ENTITIES LOWERED THEIR LIMIT. SO WHEN INSURANCE GETS CHEAPER LET THEM TAKE THE RISK AND WHEN IT GETS HIGH YOU HAVE TO TAKE

MORE RISK. >> I WANT TO THANK YOU.

WE GET A LOT OF CONTRACTS AND VENDOR WHO IS ALLOW OUR STAFF TO KIND OF HANDLE THE RENEWAL OR ANY PRESENTATIONS AND YOU AND CHASE YOUR TEAM HAVE ALWAYS BEEN HERE EVERY MEETING REQUESTED SO

- >> WE TAKE IT.

>> ANSWER ALL OF OUR CONCERNS. >> IT'S A PRIVILEGE FOR US BE THE COUNTY'S AGENT. VERY MUCH SO.

>> WE AGREE. AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR PRIVILEGE. I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

ON THIS? >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION?

>> YES, MA'AM, JUDGE, DIDN'T SEE YOUR HAND.

MY BAD. >> I'M TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT

ONLINE. >> CAN YOU TURN HER VOLUME UP?

>> MR. CARLISLE CAN YOU TELL US, I KNOW YOU SAID THAT THIS SIDE IS GOING DOWN BUT THE OTHER SIDE IS GOING UP.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT VEHICLE ACCIDENTS OR SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IN THE FUTURE TO GET THAT SIDE TO GO DOWN, AS

WELL? >> YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO LET HIM, AGAIN, WHAT WE DO, WE REALLY HAVE NO DIRECT CONTACT.

>> YOU JUST INCLUDE IT IN YOUR THING.

>> WE DO IT IN OUR FEE TO INCLUDE IT IN HERE BUT WHEN WE GO THROUGH IT AND I THINK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS.

IT HAS TO DO WITH LOSS HISTORY, AND IF YOU SEE WHICH ONES WENT

[00:30:01]

UP IT'S YOUR AUTOLIABILITY WHICH EVERYONE'S IS AND IT'S, WHAT WE COULD DO FOR A MEETING AT SOME TIME IS GO BACK AND GET THE LOSS HISTORY ON THOSE TWO LINES AND SEE EXACTLY AND DISCUSS IT.

WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. THE OTHER ONE IS THE LAW ENFORCEMENT WHICH BOTH OF THOSE COVERAGES ARE PRETTY, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS CAN HAPPEN AND SO I THINK THAT THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES IS STILL VERY COMPETITIVE PRODUCT.

>> GOOD TO KNOW. >> DOES THAT HELP?

>> I HAVE WITH ALL THE MEETINGS WITH THIS AND THE CONVERSATIONS AND LAST NIGHT'S PHONE CALL AND GETTING THIS DOWN FURTHER SO I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE GOING UP TO THE 150 MILLION AT THE PRICE OF 2.4 THAT YOU SUGGESTED.

I'M NOT SURE IF THAT ANSWER EXACT NUMBER IF IT NEEDS

ANYTHING ELSE ON THERE. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT.

JUDGE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT. SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES 5-0 AND THAT TRULY IS A GOOD NEWS FOR THE COUNTY.

I THINK WE'RE A LITTLE UNDER-INSURED FOR A WHILE SO

[6. Discuss, consider, and take action approving execution of an Amendment to the Agreement with Lexis Nexis for legal research subscription for the Public Defender's Office, extending the termination date to May 31, 2029; and related matters.]

IT'S GOOD TO HEAD BACK IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

THANK YOU. ITEM 6 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION APPROVING EXECUTION OF AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT WITH LEGISLATION THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE EXTENDING TO

MAY 31ST, 2029 >> MOVE.

>> MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PUSLEY AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE?

[7. Discuss, consider, and take action on authorizing the County Judge to provide written notice of intent to renew the Agreement with Global Spectrum related to the management of the Richard M. Borchard Regional Fairgrounds Facilities; receive presentation from Global Spectrum and related matters.]

ANY APPOSED? MOTION PASSES 5-0.

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY JUDGE FOR WRITTEN NOTICE OF INTENT TO RENEW THE AGREEMENT WITH GLOBAL SPECTRUM FOR THE FAIR GROUND FACILITATES AND RECEIVE PRESENTATION FROM GLOBAL SPECTRUM IN RELATED MATTERS.

IS THERE A STARTING MOTION ON THIS? HOW ARE WE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS?

>> WE'LL DO A PRESENTATION TODAY?

>> I DIDN'T READ THAT PART UNTIL RIGHT THERE SO I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE DOING ONE BUT WE CAN. THERE IT IS.

ALRIGHT. WHO'S DOING THE PRESENTATION? ANNOUNCE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS I'M WITH THE OAK VIEW GROUP MANAGING THE REGIONAL FAIR GROUNDS AND HERE WITH ME I HAVE SUPPORT WITH CLAUDIA ALSO WITH THE GROUP MANAGEMENT DISTRICT GENERAL MANAGER. SO WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION.

BASICALLY JUST EXPLAINING THE IMPORTANCE AND REASONS BEHIND WHY WE MANAGE THE REGIONAL FAIRGROUNDS.

AM I GOING THROUGH THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION OR HIGHLIGHTING KEY

POINTS? >> HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THE

FULL PRESENTATION WILL TAKE? >> I WOULD SAY MAYBE ABOUT 3 MINUTES? MAYBE LESS.

>> HOW MUCH? >> BASICALLY JUST KIND OF HIGHLIGHTING THE FACT THAT WHAT WE'VE DONE IS FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS WE'VE HAD A REALLY WONDERFUL GREAT RUN LAST YEAR WAS OUTSTANDING. IF WE CAN JUST KIND OF GO TO PRESENTATION SLIDE 15? PLEASE GO BACK ONE.

AND HERE THE CHART ACTUALLY JUST EXPLAINS OUR GROSS OPERATING REVENUE. THE PAST THREE YEARS WE'VE BEEN INCREASING OUR REVENUE FROM 2023 UP TO LAST YEAR.

2025 SO YOU'LL SEE THERE FOR 2023, THE REVENUE WAS 1.5.

THEN IN 2024 YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OVER WHICH IS 1.52.

AND THEN 2025 YOU HAVE 1.6. SO OPERATIVE REVENUE HAS INCREASED SINCE THE GROUP HAS BEEN MANAGING THE FAIRGROUNDS.

IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A SAVINGS OF $439049 OVER THE LAST THREE YEAR, SO YOU'LL SEE HERE THE TOTAL NET INCOME AND THE BOTTOM LINE SO THE BOTTOM LINE WHERE IT SAYS BUDGET IS WHAT WE BUDGETED EVERY YEAR FOR 2023 WE BUDGETED AT $876592 BUT AT THE END OF THE SUBSIDY, THE ACTUAL BUDGET WAS $835316 SO THE VARIANCE IS AT 31275.

[00:35:10]

2024 WE HAD 826268 AND THE ACTUAL WAS UNDER THE SUBSIDY BY $612277. SO THE VARIANT ABOVE IS 214991.

>> YES. WHICH IS UNDER THE BUDGET OF WHAT WAS PROJECTED FOR THE YEAR. 2025 YOU'LL SEE THE BUDGET AT 861784 WITH AN ACTUAL AT THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 609008 SO THE VARIANCE YOU'LL SEE IS UNDER THE SUBSIDY AT 252782.

SO FOR THE PAST 2025 YEAR WE'VE INCREASEED IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE WE'VE INCREASED EVENTS AT THE RN B FAIRGROUNDS AT 23 POINT 16% AND JUST YOU KNOW, EMPHASIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF MANAGEMENT COMPANY ON WHAT WE DO AND WHAT WE'RE HERE TO CONTINUE DOING IS CONTINUING TO BE A PARTNER AND AN ASSET, VALUABLE ASSET TO YA'LL. AND A FEW TESTIMONIES THAT WILL EXPLAIN OUR SUCCESS WITH OUR PARTNERSHIPS.

ONE BEING THE NUECES COUNTY RISK MANAGEMENT.

YOU'LL SEE A FEW OTHER TESTIMONIES.

SLIDE EIGHT. SORRY MY SLIDES ARE NOT NUMBERED. EIGHT AND NINE.

OKAY. SO YOU'LL SEE HERE A TESTIMONY FROM MS. CATHY FROM THE NEW NEW DEPUTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE? JUST EXPRESSING THEIR EXPERIENCE WHAT WE'VE BEEN, WHAT THE GROUP HAS BEEN DOING PROVIDING GENEROUS SUPPORT, AND WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT EVERY YEAR. AND JUST SHOWING THEIR APPRECIATION OF WHAT WE DO AS A MANAGEMENT TEAM AND YOU KNOW THE WORKS OF JUST TRYING TO GROW AND BE THERE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

CLAUDIA? IF YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE

SOMETHING. >> MORNING.

I'M BASED IN BEAUMONT, TEXAS. DISTRICT GENERAL MANAGER OVER SEVEN OF OUR ACCOUNTS IN TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA.

SO REALLY JUST PROUD OF OUR TEAM ON THE GROUND HERE.

IT HAS BEEN A SUCCESSFUL THREE YEAR RUN YEAR OVER YEAR RAISING REVENUE AND DECREASING OUR EXPENSES VERSES OUR SUBSIDIES.

WE'VE BEEN HERE FROM CONSULTING PRIOR TO THE VENUE OPENING AND TO PRESENT DAY. THERE'S A BIG 20TH ANNIVERSARY ON THE HORIZON AND WE'RE EXCITED TO ROLL-OUT A CAMPAIGN TO CELEBRATE THE FAIRGROUNDS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT 20 YEAR MARKER. MORE TO COME ON THAT BUT WE'RE

WORKING TOWARDS THAT. >> THANK YOU.

THERE A MOTION ON THIS? COMMISSIONER PUSLEY?

>> ALRIGHT. YEAH.

IF IT PLEASES THE COURT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AS PER OUR EXISTING AGREEMENT WITH GLOBAL SPECTRUM, IS AS THEY ARE KNOWN NOW THAT WE EXTEND AND RENEW THE AGREEMENT FOR THE ONE YEAR PERIOD AND ALONG WITH THAT AND I WANTED TO GO ALONG WITH THAT MOTION AND I'M NOT SURE ALL OF YOU GOT A COPY OF THIS.

I THINK YOU GOT ONE. >> SO WE'VE BEEN LOOKING INTERNALLY AT THE NUMBERS ASSOCIATED WITH OPERATIONS OF THE FAIRGROUNDS AND SO ALONG WITH THIS MOTION, WE HAVE ANOTHER ANNIVERSARY COMING UP AS PER OUR CURRENT CONTRACT A YEAR FROM NOW. IN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HAVE MY MOTION INCLUDE THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT NEEDS TO DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT TO EXTEND THAT CONTRACT FOR A LONGER TERM OR GO OUT FOR AN RFP TO LOOK AT EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT DO WITH RESPECT TO THE FUTURE MANAGEMENT OF THE FAIRGROUNDS. OR WHETHER WE WANT TO BRING THAT

INTERNALLY. >> OKAY.

IS THAT YOUR MOTION? >> YES.

>> IS THERE A SECOND? SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MAREZ.

[00:40:04]

>> DISCUSSION? >> THANKS JUDGE.

JUDGE PRO-TEM AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER PUSLEY HAS PUT A LOT OF EFFORT AND TIME INTO THIS AND WE BOTH SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH THE GROUP AND HER TEAM. WE HAVE ALL ATTENDED OUR HAIR IS OF EVENTS THERE. YOU KNOW THIS ISSUE KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS THE DISCUSSION OR THE COMMUNITIES AS FAR AS BUILDING AN ARENA OF WHATEVER SIZE CAPACITY, WHAT DOES IT DO FOR THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? DOES IT GENERATE FUNDING? PULL RESOURCES FROM OTHER AREAS? I THINK IT IS A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE. I'VE ALWAYS SEEN DOING THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY THE CITY OF CORPORATE CORPORATE CORPUS CHRISTY I'M IN FAVOR OF THE RESOURCE AND ALL WE CAN WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS. THERE IS THERE WEAR AND TEAR.

WE'VE SEEN HURRICANES AND ICE STORMS AND ALL THE EVENTS THAT THE GROUP HAS STEPPED UP TO HELP ASSIST OUR COUNTY STAFF WITH AND OTHER SURROUNDING AGENCIES. AND PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY CAN JUST GO AND ENJOY GREAT EVENTS AT REASONABLE PRICE AND SO IT IS A GREAT LOCATION. I CAN TELL YOU HOW MANY MEETINGS I ATTEND AND PEOPLE WHO KIND OF LITTLE SKEPTICAL.

WHY DO I WANT TO GO TO ROBS TOWN.

10, 15 MINUTES DEPENDING WHAT PART OF CORPUS CRISTIE YOU LIVE IN. OR IF YOU ARE IN THE RURAL AREAS IT'S A SIMPLE DRIVE SO THAT FULL FOOTPRINT TO ME DRAWS A LOT OF PEOPLE SO I THINK THIS ISSUE TODAY AS THE COMMISSIONER SAID IT'S JUST ABOUT RENEWAL BUT LOOKING AT DISCUSSIONS OF HOW CAN WE BEST IMPROVE WHAT OUR COMMITMENT IS AS THE COUNTY, BUT YOU KNOW THIS IS A STATEMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT YOU AND TAKE A STEP BACK AND SEE HOW CAN WE MAKE MORE ENHANCEMENTS. I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT BUT I THINK THE TEAM WE HAVE HAS DONE EXCELLENT WORK.

THERE'S ALWAYS HICCUPS BUT YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE ALWAYS RESPONDED TO OUR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.

WE HAVE A MEETING NEXT MONTH WITH YOU. ONE OF OUR LARGEST PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE THAT COME BACK CONTINUALLY EVERY YEAR SO WE WANT TO MAKE THOSE GROUPS FEEL COMFORTABLE AND ENJOY THEIR TEAM WHETHER A DAY OR WEEKS THERE ON THE FAIRGROUNDS.

BUT THEY KEEP COMING BACK SO I CAN THINK OF TWO OR THREE BIG GROUPS THAT WE HAVE AND SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, ENHANCED. RIGHT? I'D LIKE TO SEE US BRING IN MORE GROUPS AND YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A BIG YOU KNOW BIG STEAL WHEN WE GOT THE PEDDLER'S SHOW.

IT USED TO BE CORPUS CHRISTI AND THEN IT CAME OVER TO THE FAIRGROUNDS AND SO WE STILL HAVE LOTS OF ARTS AND CRAFTS AND OTHER EVENTS AND THE MEN'S AND WOMEN'S TALKING TOUR FORUM YOU HAVE CREATED WAS GREAT EVENTS THAT HAVE REALLY HIGHLIGHTED JUST THE RESOURCES OF PEOPLE GOING DURING A LUNCH HOUR AND CELEBRATING AND ENJOYING SOME GREAT SPEAKERS AND SOME GREAT CUISINE SO WE NEED TO TALKING ABOUT HOW TO IMPROVE AND STREAMLINE. THAT'S ALWAYS PART OF IT AND I KNOW THAT YOU ARE VERY FRUGAL WITH YOUR MONEY AND YOU ARE ALWAYS FINDING WAYS TO TRY TO HELP, LIKE I SAID, ENHANCE THE AREA, AND SO I KNOW I'VE MADE SOME COMMITMENTS, NOT THE FUNDING THAT I HAVE, TO HELP SUPPORT OUR EQUESTRIAN AREA.

THERE ARE OTHER AREAS. BUT THE ENERGY HANS MINUTES YOU HAVE BROUGHT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS AS FAR AS ADDING MORE PAINT, CARPETING AND THE AESTHETICS AND THE INTERIOR ARENAS OR BALLROOMS, I'M SORRY, HAVE REALLY MADE A STEP UP IN THE LOOK AND APPEARANCE AND I THINK THAT HAS HELPED WITH THE DRAW OF MORE PEOPLE COMING TO USE THE FACILITY.

I KNOW I SAW SOMEWHERE IN ONE OF OUR REPORTS THE NUMBER OF ATTENDING. IT WAS CLOSE TO A 100,000 I THINK FOR LAST YEAR OR THE CURRENT YEAR WE'RE IN.

ENCOURAGING NUMBER SO KEEP DOING IT, RIGHT? KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING. KEEP DOING IT BETTER AND CONTINUE TO REACH OUT TO US. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MAREZ. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> YES, SIR? >> TO SPEAK TO MY MOTION.

FIRST I WANT TO SAY I THINK YOU HAVE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB HELPING TO RUN OUR FACILITY AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE AND AS COMMISSIONER IN CONCERT WITH COMMISSIONER MAREZ COMMENTS ANYTIME WE HAVE CALLED OR HAD A QUESTION OR SUGGESTION OR WHATEVER YOU'VE BEEN VERY, VERY AMENABLE TO WORKING WITH US AND MAKING CHANGES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. I WANT TO SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT WHEN COMMISSIONER MAREZ AND I WENT TOGETHER AND PROVIDED THE FUNDING TO PUT THE RECOGNITION UP FOR MS. BERRY INSIDE AND YOU

[00:45:04]

BENT OVER BACKWARDS TO MAKE THAT A REALLY NICE EVENT FOR HER AND WE BOTH SINCERELY APPRECIATED YOUR EFFORTS ON THAT.

BUT AND I THINK THAT THE MENTION OF THE 20-YEAR ANNIVERSARY IS APPROPRIATE. WE'RE APPROACHING THAT DEADLINE VERY QUICKLY AND A COURT IS, IN THIS BUDGET YEAR IS GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS ABOUT THE MONEY THAT WE NEED TO SPEND ON THE FAIRGROUNDS. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT FAIRGROUNDS, MECHANICALLY NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED BOTH TO THE STRUCTURE, PARKING LOT AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT GO INTO YOU KNOW, MAKING THAT FACILITY WHAT IT IS.

A LOT OF THOSE THINGS HAVE NOT BEEN UPGRADE IN THE 20 YEAR HISTORY OF THAT FAIR GROUND, SO THERE IS A LOT THAT THE COUNTY NEEDS TO TAKE UPON IT'S SHOULDERS AND DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND HOW MUCH WE CAN AFFORD TO DO, BUT AGAIN I WANT TO STRESS THE FACT THAT YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB AND MY MOTION, IN NO WAY IS A REFLECTION ON YOU OR ANY OF YOUR STAFF.

YOU'VE DONE A FINE JOB OVER THE PAST THREE YEAR, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND AS COMMISSIONER MAREZ SAYS, PLEASE CONTINUE YOUR

EFFORTS. >> COMMISSIONER WILL YOU OR COMMISSIONER MAREZ BRING BACK WHATEVER IT IS YOU WANT TO BRING

BACK BY A CERTAIN TIME? >> YEAH, I THINK A COURT AS WE MOVE INTO THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO, YOU KNOW, DECIDE WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND GO FORWARD BASIS.

>> APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S HARD WORK.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THIS?

>> I WANT TO THANK TERESA AND CONSTANCE AND OTHERS FOR HELPING TO PUT THE NUMBERS TOGETHER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ALRIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER PUSLEY'S MOTION. LORENZO HAS IT DOWN.

PLEASE SAY AYE. SAME SIGN? 5-0 VOTE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR

[8. Discuss and consider upcoming Commissioners Court meeting date(s), workshop date(s), and related matters.]

CONFIDENCE. APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO ITEM 8 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER UPCOMING DATES AND WORKSHOPS AND RELATED MATTER.

IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO DISCUSS ON THAT ITEM?

>> CAN WE CONFIRM THE MEETING DATES JUDGE PRO TEM?

>> OKAY. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO CONFIRM

UP? >> WE HAVE OUR NEXT COURT MEETING IS JUNETEENTH AND THEN WE HAVE THREE IN JULY IS THAT

CORRECT? >> SORRY JUDGE.

>> YES. >> OKAY.

ANY FURTHER? >> HELLO.

>> GOOD MORNING. I WANTED TO ADD IN JULY WE'LL START A BUDGET PROCESS AND HAVE SOME WORKSHOPS, AS WELL SO IT

WILL GEAR UP IN THE SUMMERTIME. >> TUESDAY AND THURSDAY?

>> CORRECT. >> TUESDAY AND THURSDAY.

>> WE HAVE COURT IN BETWEEN? >> YES, SIR.

>> THANK YOU. I'M GOOD.

>> AND I WANT TO SAY AGAIN, THE ONLY TIME IN JULY I WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE IS FROM THE 2ND TO THE NINTH.

>> THANK YOU. >> WE'LL BE MISSING YOU.

>> I'LL BE HERE ON THE TENTH. >> OKAY.

THAT'S THE ONE THAT COUNTS. >> NO, JUNE.

[1. Discuss and consider approving a no-cost Change Order No. 1 to the agreement with Derrick Construction Company, Inc. for construction of the Packery Channel Nature Park Shoreline Enhancement Project, to deduct certain charges, add additional charges, and to extend the completion date; and related matters.]

>> ALRIGHT. MOVING ON FROM ITEM EIGHT COASTAL PARKS BC DISCUSS AND CONSIDER NO COST CHANGE ORDER WITH DEREK CONSTRUCTION FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE BACK RINNAI TO OUR SHORE LINE PROJECT TO DEDUCT CERTAIN CHARGES AND ADDITIONAL CHARGES AND EXTEND THE COMPLETION DATE IN RELATED

MATTERS. >> YES, SIR.

NO COST CHANGE ORDER. WE'RE ADDING SOME TIME BUT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ADDING TIME TO IT WE'RE STILL AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.

ORIGINALLY WHEN I TOLD YOU THIS PROJECT WOULD TAKE EIGHT MONTHS, WE'RE WEIGHT WAY AHEAD. WE'LL FINISH IT IN AUGUST OR

SEPTEMBER. >> DON'T BE TELLING PEOPLE THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO SAY WITH WHAT YOU SAID ORIGINALLY AND WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT'S SAID AND DONE.

I'VE HEARD THOSE WORDS BEFORE. NOT FROM YOU BUT I'VE HEARD THEM BEFORE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS ITEM

NUMBER B-1. >> I JUST, YEAH, SECOND.

>> OKAY. FOR DISCUSSION?

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? >> THEY'VE A QUESTION.

I KIND OF GOT CONFUSED WHEN YOU SAID DEDUCT AND ADD AND EXTEND SO WE REMOVE FUNDS FROM ONE PROJECT TO ANOTHER PROJECT?

>> JUST DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS INSIDE THE BUDGETED CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. WHAT WE DID IS WE SAVED SOME MONEY ON SOME LARGER ROCK THAT THE LIVING SHORE LINE PIECES LIVE ON, AND SO WE NEEDED MORE SMALLER ROCK SO WITH THE COST SAVINGS THERE WE'RE JUST ADDING A LINE ITEM FOR THE SMALLER ROCK, SO IF ANYBODY WAS AUDITED EVERYTHING CHECKS OUT.

>> OKAY. I JUST GOT A LITTLE CONFUSED

THERE. >> IT WAS.

IT WAS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING TOO WHEN I GOT IT.

[00:50:01]

>> ALRIGHT. >> ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

[1. Discuss and consider rescinding previous Resolution of the Commissioners Court designating authorized signatories for the Texas Community Development Block Grant, Texas Department of Agriculture, Texas Colonia Fund Construction Grant Program; take action on adoption of a Resolution designating authorized signatories for the same, and approving Designation Form; and related matters.]

THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. GRANT C-1 DISCUSS AND RESCINDING THE REPRESENTATIVE USE RESOLUTION DESIGNATED SIGNATORYS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT. TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND COLONIAL FUND GRANT TAKE ACTION ON RESOLUTION DESIGNATED THE AUTHORIZED SIGNATURES FOR THE SAME AND IMPROVING DESIGNATION FORM AND MAKING THE SIGNATORYS TO BE THE SAME THEY ARE ON EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE DO.

THAT WOULD BE THE COUNTY JUDGE AND COUNTY AUDITOR JUST LIKE THE OTHER ONES. I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO DO THAT. IS THERE A SECOND? JUDGE SCOTT SECONDS. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? SEEING NONE. MOE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

[2. Discuss, consider, and take action on adoption of a Resolution acknowledging the vacancy rate associated with the Texas Community Development Block Grant, Texas Department of Agriculture, Texas Colonia Fund Construction Grant Application for the Casa Court #2 Waterline Replacement Project; and all related matters.]

MOTION PASSES 5-0 AND MOVING ON TO TWO.

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ON ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION ACKNOWLEDGING VACANCY RATE WITH THE TEXAS COMMUNITY BLOCK GRANT.

TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE FOR THE CASA COURT TWO AND WATER LINE REPLACE MEANT PROJECT AND REQUIRED FOR THE VACANCY RATE IS OVER 30 PERCENT AND THIS ONE HAS A 50% VACANCY AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THIS TODAY. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON

THIS. >> SECOND.

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION. TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER PUSLEY MOTION AND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ SECONDED.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? SEEING AND HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? ANY OPPOSED?

[3. Discuss and consider adopting a resolution authorizing the submission of a grant application to the Texas General Land Office, Texas Coastal Management Program (CMP) Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act (GOMESA) as a Project of Special Merit (PSM) for the Oso Creek Watershed Detention Pond and Water Quality Improvements Project up to $5,000,000, reimbursable grant and related matters.]

SAME SIGN? MOTION PASSES 5-0.

THREE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADOPTING A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SUBMISSION OF GRANT APPLICATION TO THE TEXAS GENERAL LAND OFFICE TEXAS MANAGEMENT PROGRAM GULF OF MEXICO GOMESA FOR THE WATERSHED DETENTION POND AND WATER QUALITY IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS UP TO 5 MILLION REIMBURSABLE GRANT IN RELATED MATTERS. IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PUSLEY I'M 100 PERCENT IN FAVOR. I HAVE ASKED THEM TO REMIND A COURT ON THESE REIMBURSEMENTS, YES SORRY, THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR UP FRONT. WE HAVE A LOT OF THESE UP FRONT AND SO I'VE KIND OF ASKED HIM TO GIVE US A RECOMMENDATION AS TO HOW WE SHOULD PROCEED GOING FORWARD AGAIN, I'M 100 PERCENT SUPPORTIVE OF THIS GRANT APPLICATION BUT BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE ARE, WE HAVE MID MOD, WE HAVE GOMESA AND PROBABLY OTHERS.

THAT MEANS WE ASKA COUNTY WILL BE OUT OF POCKET IN THE TUNE OF MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SO I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES AS TO HOW YOU MIGHT CAUTION A COURT OR ADD ADVISE A COURT ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD AND WHERE OUR LIMITS ARE ON THESE GRANTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT MOVING

FORWARD. >> SURE.

THANK YOU. SO AS COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER PUSLEY SAID, I'M HAVING A LITTLE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY HERE.

WE DID TALKING ABOUT THIS SO LET ME BRING EVERYONE UP TO SPEED.

THE COUNTY ONLY HAS SO MUCH MONEY AND WHEN WE HAVE REIMBURSEMENTS YOU HAVE TO SHELL OUT THOUGHT MONEY FIRST AND WAIT FOR IT TO COME BACK TO YOU FROM THE GRANTING AGENCIES AND THERE ARE LIMITS BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER THINGS GOING ON BESIDEED THE GRANT FUNDED PROJECT, SO LET ME STEP YOU THROUGH.

IF WE CAME INTO THE YEAR WITH 45 MILLION AND WE HAVE A POLICY THAT WE HAVE TO PRESERVE A FOURTH OF OUR REVENUE BUDGET FOR THE NEXT YEAR SO SAY 45 MILLION WE CAME IN AND WE HAVE TO HOLD BACK 35 MILLION AND THAT LEAVES 10 MILLION OF ROOM TO CASH FLOW WHAT I THINK IS 36 MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OVER GRANTS THAT ARE ALL REIMBURSABLE. THAT'S NOT ALL GOING TO HAPPEN AT ONE TIME. YOU KNOW, AS THE WORK PROGRESSES WE PAY THE VENDORS AND APPLY FOR THE GRANT REIMBURSEMENTS AND WE GET THAT 30-45 DAYS LATER DEPENDING ON THE GRANTING AGENCY. BUT THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION.

WE HAVE ABOUT $10 MILLION OF WIGGLE ROOM TO CASH FLOW THE PROJECTS WAITING FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT SO THAT'S THE LIMIT SO THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION.

NOW IN ORDER TO REALLY GET A HANDLE ON THESE THINGS ONE THING THAT I CAN'T TELL FROM LOOKING AT THE BOOKKEEPING AT THE COUNTY IS THE FUTURE EXPENDITURE AMOUNTS AND THE TIMING OF THEM.

SO AS I TOLD COMMISSIONER CHESNEY I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND WHEN IT COMES TO A QUESTION LIKE HOW MUCH CAPACITY DO WE HAVE TO CASH THROW THINGS, WE NEED TO PULL IN THE PROJECT MANAGERS AND GIVE CASH FLOW TIMING SO THAT WAY WE CAN TIME OUR CASH WHEN IT'S GOING TO GO OUT AND HOW LONG IT TAKES TO COME BACK IN.

WHEN YOU FINISHED SAY FOR A MONTH SPENDING MONEY, AND YOU APPLY TO THE GRANT AGENCY YOU ARE NOW IN THE SECOND MONTH SPENDING WAITING FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE FIRST

[00:55:02]

MONTH SO THE CASH FLOW HAS TO BE DONE CAREFULLY UNLESS THE COURT SAYS YOU CAN TEMPORARILY GO INTO THE $35 MILLION BECAUSE THE RISK LOW THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT BACK FROM THE GRANTING AGENCIES BUT MY RECOMMENDATION IS GO FORWARD WITH THE FIVE MILLION AND THEN GOMESA GRAND BUT WE REALLY NEED TO CASH FLOW THESE THINGS. RIGHT NOW IT HAS NOT BEEN A PROBLEM BUT IT WOULD BE A GOOD EXERCISE TO GO THROUGH IT PERIODICALLY TO GET ALL OF THAT FOR PLANNING PURPOSES BECAUSE WE WANT TO INVEST THAT MONEY, EXCUSE ME, UNTIL IT'S NEEDED

>> WITH THAT SAID, JUDGE, GO AHEAD.

>> ONE MORE LIKE A STATEMENT >> MORE LIKE A STATEMENT THAN A QUESTION. BUT IN PREVIOUS YEARS WE HAVE REVAMPED. BECAUSE WE HAD THAT SITTING THERE A LOT. BUT NOW WE ARE SPENDING ALL OF THAT. THAT'S WHY ALL THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS COME BEFORE US, AND THAT IS WHY I STRESS TO OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS, OUR MANAGERS ON THESE JOBS THAT WE HAVE GOT TO GET PAPERWORK AND DOCUMENTATION TURNED IN ON A VERY TIMELY BASIS, BECAUSE THE COUNTY CANNOT AFFORD TO BE OUT AND WAIT TOO LONG ON THIS REIMBURSEMENT.

SO THAT IS GOING TO REQUIRE EACH COMMISSIONER OR WHOEVER'S JOB IT IS TO STAY ON YOUR PROJECT AND MAKE SURE THAT YOUR PROJECT MANAGER, IF YOU HAVE ONE, OR THE DEPARTMENT HEAD, IT IS DOING THAT WITH GOOD PAPERWORK AND DOCUMENTATION.

>> THANK YOU. JUDGE.

PART OF THE DISCUSSION, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS I DEFTLY WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS, BUT BASED ON WHAT ELIAS JUST SAID, WE KNOW WE HAVE-- WE ARE WAY IN TO THE 35 MILLION AT THIS POINT. WE ARE WAY PASSED-- PAST THE 10 MILLION WIGGLE ROOM. WHICH MEANS OUR RESERVES ARE A LITTLE AT RISK. SO MY HOPE WOULD BE IS WE CAN PUT-- WE CAN PASS THIS ONE AND PUT A MORATORIUM ON FUTURE ONES UNTIL WE GET THIS CASH FLOW ANALYSIS FROM ELIAS, AS SOON AS HE CAN GET IT BACK TO US, AND THE COURT CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AT LEAST 35 MILLION WITHOUT THIS 5 MILLION OF OUTSTANDING REIMBURSABLE GRANTS THAT IS WAY MORE THAN THE 10 MILLION THAT OUR AUDITOR IS RECOMMENDING. SO I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD EXERCISE TO BRING THAT BACK.

SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT WE PASS THIS, BUT WE ALSO PUT A MORATORIUM AS PART OF THE MOTION.

WE WILL NOT DO ANY MORE OF THESE UNTIL WE GET THAT CASH FLOW ANALYSIS AND WE CAN MAKE A LOGICAL DECISION.

THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION I MAKE ON THIS.

I AM CERTAINLY OPEN TO WHATEVER SUGGESTION.

BECAUSE I WANT TO GET THIS ONE DONE.

>> HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WILL BE BEFORE WE HAVE THAT CASH FLOW

ANALYSIS? >> NEXT MEETING, PROPERLY.

A MEETING OR TWO. >> IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE JULY MEETING. IF YOU WANT TO GET A GOOD CASH FLOW YOU HAVE TO GET INVOLVED. AND SOME OF THESE MORE COMPLEX PROJECTS, WE WOULD HAVE TO GET THE ENGINEERS AND BEEN INVOLVED-- INVOLVED, BECAUSE OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS, THE CONSTRUCTION, THOSE PROJECTS GET DELAYED.

ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, OR A DISAGREEMENT WITH THE CONTRACT

CAN PUSH THINGS BACK. >> ARE WE PUTTING A MORATORIUM

ON ALL GRANTS? >> ON APPLYING FOR ANYMORE?

>> NO. JUST THE REIMBURSABLE.

NOT THE ONES THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO REIMBURSE.

>> I UNDERSTAND IT AS A REIMBURSABLE GRANT.

BUT I AM JUST TALKING ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE THE GRANTS THAT WE RECEIVE EVERY YEAR AT THE AIRPORT.

AND WE HAVE GOT PROJECTS ONGOING NOW UNDER THE GRANT PROGRAM,

WHICH ARE REIMBURSABLE GRANTS. >> BUT THAT IS NOT A NEW ONE.

THAT IS AN EXISTING ONE. >> ONE EXPIRES AND THE NEXT ONE

BEGINS. >> IT'S A YEARLY GRANT.

WE GET IT EVERY YEAR. >> I'M JUST SAYING THIS IS A NEW APPLICATION. I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE-- WE DON'T TAKE AWAY ANYTHING WE HAVE ALREADY GOT.

WE ALREADY GOT IT AND WE COMMITTED TO THAT.

I AM JUST SAYING, BEFORE WE GO BACK AND DO ANY NEW ONES THAT WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE, THAT WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THIS CASH FLOW. BECAUSE I THINK I'VE-- I THINK WE ARE EXTENDING OURSELVES A LOT HERE AND WE ARE PUTTING OUR RESERVES IN POTENTIAL JEOPARDY IF WE EVER NEED THEM BY NOT KNOWING WHAT THIS EFFECT IS. WE ARE ALREADY PASSED THE WELL-- WELL PAST THE WIGGLE ROOM THAT OUR AUDITOR WOULD RECOMMEND.

BUT I GET IT. WE WANTED THAT $30 MILLION.

WE JUMPED IN WITH THAT. AND THAT IS THE THING THAT PUT

US OVER. >> WELL,, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD PUT A COMPLETE STOP ON THE GRANT.

[01:00:02]

AND I THINK THAT THIS GRANT IS THREEFOLD.

BUT IT TRICKLES DOWN TO MIND, AND I THINK THAT, IF IT IS APPROVED, SINCE I'M-- WE CAN ALWAYS SAY WE ARE GOING TO JUST START WITH THE COMMISSIONER OF..., AND BEFORE WE START BUYING WE TAKE IT ONE PROJECT AT A TIME SO WE CAN START SOMEWHERE. BECAUSE I AM THE LAST ONE ON THE TOTEM POLE ANYWAY. IF I DON'T GET THE FIRST TWO, IT WOULD DEFEAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS GRANT, BECAUSE ALL THE WATER

LINED UP WHERE I AM. >> YOU'RE SAYING IN ADDITION TO

THIS GRANT? >> NO.

WE NEED TO APPROVE THIS GRANT, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SAY I WANT TO PUT A HOLE IN ALL THE OTHER GRANTS.

SOMETHING MIGHT COME UP. WE COULD ALWAYS COME BACK AND VOTE AGAINST IT. BUT I AM JUST SAYING, RIGHT NOW, THIS GRANT IS GOING TO TRICKLE DOWN FROM PERSON ONE TO PERSON TWO TO PERSON THREE. IT MOVES BACKWARDS FROM ONE TREY-- TO 2103. SO WE SHOULD KNOW WHERE WE ARE AT WITH IT, HOW MUCH MONEY WE WILL NEED ON IT, AND-- I'M NOT GOING TO SAY-- WE NEED TO START SOMEWHERE AND WE NEED TO START WHERE IT STARTS. SO IF THAT HAS TO BE FOR THE NEXT ROUND, THEN BISHOP CAN COME TO THE NEXT ROUND.

BUT WE NEED TO START SOMEWHERE RIGHT NOW WHERE WE START WITH PERSON ONE, THEN PERSON TWO, THEN PERSON THREE.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD APPROVE IT. IT'S MY RECOMMENDATION.

BUT THEN WE GO BACK AND GO TO THE TABLE AND LOOKED AT IT.

WHERE DO YOU WANT TO START? >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU

WANT TO START. >> MAJOR USE CAN START WITH 1.8.

PERSON ONE, PERSON TWO, PERSON THREE.

>> AS PART OF THIS? I'M JUST MAKING CLEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. I AM 100% SAYING I WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS ONE-- I'M JUST SAYING WE NEED TO PAUSE ON ANY OTHER REIMBURSABLE GRANTS UNTIL WE GET THE CASH FLOW ANALYSIS.

I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING TO STOP THIS GRANT AT ALL.

>> I DON'T THINK WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER ONE BETWEEN NOW AND JULY

ANYWAYS. >> RIGHT.

SO IF THERE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ANYMORE THAT ARE NOT, THEN WE COULD JUST MAKE IT PART OF THE PAUSE AND SAY PASS THIS AND SAY LET'S WAIT UNTIL HE BRINGS BACK THE CASH FLOW.

HOPEFULLY SOONER THAN JULY. IF HE CAN'T, HE CAN'T.

>> IF SOMETHING COMES UP, WE WON'T HAVE IT WHEN IT COMES UP.

>> WHAT I THINK THAT THE COMMISSIONER IS TALKING ABOUT IS THAT THIS BUILDS ON OTHER FUTURE PROJECTS.

THIS PROJECT AFFECTS THESE THREE AREAS, BUT THE COMMISSIONER IS SAYING THAT IT DOESN'T AFFECT HIS AREA AS MUCH AS COMMISSIONER PUSLEY AND COMMISSIONER MAREZ. BUT WE ARE GOING TO BUILD $5 MILLION WORTH OF STUFF. WE WILL BUILD A FEASIBILITY STUDY FIRST. AND BUILD $5 MILLION WORTH OF STUFF IF WE GET IT. BUT IT'S CLOSER TO $20 MILLION

WORTH OF STUFF. >> THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING.

WE CANNOT JUST KEEP GOING. YOU ARE OUT THERE DOING GRANTS AND THAT IS GREAT AND FINE. THIS IS AN AWESOME GRANT.

BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A PAUSE HERE.

ANOTHER 20 MILLION, THAT WILL PUT IS 50 OR $60 MILLION THAT WE

WOULD HAVE TO REIMBURSE. >> IT'S ALL-- IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE SAME YEAR OR THE SECOND YEAR.

IT COULD BE THREE YEARS. BUT WHEN IT COMES UP WE WILL DISCUSS IT AND SEE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

>> IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO DO-- LET'S SAY WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS, AND THEN WE ASK THE AUDITOR TO HAVE A REPORT BACK TO US FOR THE JULY 1ST MEETING, AND THEN AT THAT POINT, BASED ON WHAT THAT REPORT IS, WE CAN ISSUE IF WE WANT TO DO A

MORATORIUM ON FUTURE AGREEMENTS. >> DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE APPLYING FOR MORE GRANTS FROM NOW AND JULY?

>> THERE ARE A BUNCH OF GRANTS RIGHT NOW.

PARKS AND WILDLIFE, THE TC... >> WE ONLY HAVE ONE IN JUNE.

WE DON'T COME TO COURT ANYWAY. >> WE CANNOT APPROVE ANYTHING BETWEEN NOW AND JULY 1ST ANYWAY.

>> I JUST DON'T WANT THE OTHERS SPINNING THEIR WHEELS WITHOUT DOING THIS DOCUMENTATION AND PAPERWORK AND THEN WE SHOOT DOWN THE GRANT. THAT GRANT APPLICATION, THAT'S NOT FAIR TO STAFF. WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME DIRECTION.

IF THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE ANYTHING BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE, OKAY. BUT HE IS JUST SAYING WE ARE IN A GRANT CYCLE. DOES NOT MEAN EVERYONE WILL BE

[01:05:01]

OUT THERE TURNING GRANTS AND TRYING TO GET MORE? WE ARE NOT GOING TO VOTE THAT DOWN.

NOBODY WANTS TO VOTE THAT DOWN IF WE MAKE STAFF GO THROUGH

THESE HOOPS TO DO IT. >> IF WE ARE USING OUR PEOPLE GRANT WORK, THEY ARE CHARGING FOR THAT OVERHEAD TOO WHEN THEY

WRITE THESE. >> I DON'T THINK THAT YOU WILL PROVIDE ANYTHING BETWEEN NOW AND JULY.

>> I DON'T EITHER. >> I MEAN THAT'S--

>> THEN WHAT'S THE POINT-- >> WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE HOPPER RIGHT NOW WOULD BE THIS ONE. AND THEN YOU HAVE TDA, CFC AND TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE OUTDOOR GRANT PROGRAM.

THAT OUTDOOR CURRENT-- OUTDOOR GRANT PROGRAM IS WITH ONE COMMISSIONER, THE OTHER ONE IS WITH COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

>> ARE THOSE REIMBURSABLE? >> YES.

>> HOW MUCH ARE THOSE. >> ONE IS POTENTIALLY

$1 MILLION. >> YOU JUST SAID THAT IT'S AN AUTHORITY ON THEY WERE, SO THEY DON'T COUNT.

>> THESE ARE OUT THERE MOVING. >> AT THE AIRPORT.

IT'S ALREADY MOVING. >> THAT'S A NEW GRANT, RIGHT?

>> TDA'S EAC IS NEW TO THE COMMISSIONER.

>> THAT WOULD BE A NEW ONE THAT WE HAVE NOT APPROVED?

>> YOU HAVE APPROVED OF. WE ARE IN FACE TWO UP THAT APPLICATION PROCESS. THERE IS NO STOPPING THAT BUS

RIDE. >> THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED.

AND THE OTHER ONE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HAS BEEN APPROVED?

>> PARKS AND WILDLIFE WE ARE APPLYING FOR RIGHT NOW.

>> BY THE COURT I AM SAYING? >> APPROVED TO APPLY FOR?

>> DIDN'T WE DO THAT? >> IF SOMETHING HAS BEEN APPROVED TO APPLY FOR, IT WOULD NOT COUNT.

>> I THOUGHT WE DID TP WDA LAST COMMISSIONERS COURT.

MAYBE WE HAVE NOT DONE IT YET. BUT THAT GRANT APPLICATION WAS

NOT UNTIL AUGUST. >> COULD YOU ALSO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT WE WILL NOT BE SPENDING FUNDS LIKE ON THIS

PROJECT FOR A YEAR OR TWO YEARS? >> THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

NO OFFENSE, WE ARE KIND OF GOING CRAZY ON GRANTS A BIT WITHOUT KNOWING ABOUT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT THAT IT HAS ON COUNTY, WITH THE REIMBURSABLE ONES THAT WE NEED UP FRONT.

SO WITH OUR AUDITORS TELLING US THAT WE ARE ALREADY $25 MILLION OVER WHAT HE WOULD BE RECOMMENDING IN REIMBURSABLE GRANTS, WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE THAT WE PAY THIS MONEY TO AND HIGHER TO SAY LISTEN, CAN WE JUST PAUSE A MINUTE AND NOT APPLY FOR ANYTHING NEW UNTIL WE GET A CASH FLOW ANALYSIS AND WE CAN MAKE A GOOD BUSINESS DECISION?

>> THEY DON'T APPLY FOR ANYTHING UNLESS WE TELL THEM TO.

>> THE GRANT CYCLES WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW ARE BASICALLY THE THREE EDGE WE WERE TELLING YOU ABOUT.

IF YOU GET THE JELL-O GRANT, YOU WILL NOT GET NOTIFICATION THAT YOU ARE APPROVED FOR THAT UNTIL THIS FALL AND THE CONTRACT WILL NOT BE EXECUTED UNTIL APRIL OF NEXT YEAR.

>> IT'S THE CASH FLOW ANALYSIS THAT HE NEEDS TO DO.

HE MAY COME BACK AND SAY WE ARE FINE IF WE DO A CASH FLOW ANALYSIS. HE MAY COME BACK AND SAY OKAY, THIS IS A LITTLE DANGEROUS. WE ARE TREADING IN TO DANGEROUS WATERS. WHICH HE IS SAYING WE HAVE $10 OF WIGGLE ROOM, WE ALREADY HAVE 40, WE ARE IN DANGEROUS

TERRITORY. >> I HAVE SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION THAT IS ACTIVE RIGHT NOW.

BUT I'M FILING FOR REIMBURSEMENTS EVERY MONTH, ALONG WITH THE GLO GRANTS I HAVE.

>> THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, WITH OUR AUDITOR.

WE NEED TO HAVE SOME PAUSE ON THAT UNTIL WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND SAY, OKAY WE ARE PUTTING OUR RESERVES IN GREAT DANGER.

THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THESE LARGE RESERVES--

>> THERE ARE A LOT OUT THERE THAT ARE NOT REIMBURSED.

THEY DON'T REQUIRE REIMBURSEMENT.

LIKE STONE GARDEN, FOR INSTANCE. >> THOSE ARE NOT TABLED.

WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THOSE. WE NEED CASH UPFRONT FOR THAT.

>> THAT WILL BE PART OF THE CASH FLOW ANALYSIS.

ABSOLUTELY. THE JUDGE GETS THAT DEAL DONE, THAT WILL HELP. THAT WILL GIVE US MORE WIGGLE ROOM. BUT AT THIS POINT, HE IS SAYING WE ARE $25 MILLION OVER OUR WIGGLE ROOM AS WE STAND TODAY.

AND MAYBE MORE THAN THAT. >> NOTHING HAS BEEN NOT APPROVED BY THE GRANTING AGENCIES YET. AND TO PUT IT IN CONTEXT, LET SA WE HAVE THIS 36 MILLION, PLUS ESSAY ANOTHER 4 MILLION.

40 MILLION IN OPEN GRANTS. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE WILL CUT THE CHECKS AND BUY THE STUFF ALL IN ONE DAY AND WAIT FOR THE 40 MILLION TO COME BACK IN ONE DAY.

IT HAPPENS OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, 12 MONTHS, SO MUCH PERCENT PER MONTH. JUST FOR CONTEXT AGAIN, 14 MILLION OPEN GRANTS. JUST PRETEND.

ONE FOURTH OF IT WE HAVE TO DO ALL OF IT IN ONE DAY.

ONE FOURTH. THAT IS 10 MILLION RIGHT THERE.

[01:10:02]

THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. IT WILL BE SOMETHING LIKE FIVE TO 10% EVERY MONTH OF THESE THINGS GETTING PAID AND WAITING FOR THE MONEY TO COME BACK. REALLY, THE REAL ANSWER, THE WAY TO GET TO THAT ANSWER IS TO DO A CASH FLOW ANALYSIS.

IN ORDER TO DO THAT I NEED THE PROJECT MANAGERS.

>> TECHNICALLY WE HAVE A WEEK BEFORE WE HAVE TO FILE OUR AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING, RIGHT? ALL WE ARE ASKING IS TO JUST HOLD OFF, ESSENTIALLY FOR A WEEK. BECAUSE WE WON'T NEED TO GET IT IN TILL JULY 1ST. THAT GIVES YOU PLENTY OF TIME.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO VOTE ON NOT, I THINK WE STILL NEED TO PROCEED. THE WORK WE HAVE DONE, I APPRECIATE SCOTT AND EDWARD AND OUR TEAM TRYING TO FIND SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE WITH PARKS AND WILDLIFE.

IF THAT IS ALL WE ARE ASKING, LET US HOLD OFF FOR A WEEK.

ONE WEEK, AND I AM OKAY WITH THAT.

I AM ALWAYS WORRIED ABOUT MESSAGING, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THE MESSAGE TO GET OUT. MORATORIUM I THINK IS A SCARY WORD. PERCEPTION-- I'M HAPPY TO COME UP WITH A NEW WORD. I GET WHY WE NEED TO GET THERE.

I UNDERSTAND WE NEED TO TAKE A BREATHER AND LET YOU DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO AND COME BACK. THERE IS SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE FEEL VERY DIFFERENT ON GRANTS OVERALL.

I THINK THEY ARE WORTH IT. WHETHER THERE IS ANY PERCENTAGE OF BUY IN, A FRACTION THAT YOU CAN RECOUP THAT DOES NOT FALL ON THE TAXPAYER, THEN I AM WILLING TO TAKE IT.

BUT I AM WILLING TO GIVE ONE WEEK.

IF WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT OFFICIAL VOTE.

DO WE THINK THAT OUR WORK IS GOING TO BE RESOLVED WITHIN A WEEK IF WE WERE TO POST ON THE AGENDA? OKAY. SO I AM GOOD.

IF WE HAVE TO MAKE AN OFFICIAL VOTE, I AM FINE WITH THAT.

BUT IT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE WHAT WE ARE DOING.

WE WILL COME BACK AND HOPEFULLY BY JULY 1 HAVE SOMETHING ON THE

AGENDA TO MOVE FORWARD. >> I JUST DON'T WANT THE MESSAGE TO GO OUT THAT WE CANNOT BE WORKING ON GRANTS FOR THE NEXT FOUR WEEKS. I THINK WE MAKE THE MOTION HERE AND WE HAVE ALL DIRECTED THE AUDITOR TO COME UP WITH AN ANSWER BY THE JULY 1ST MEETING.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO GO OUT ON SOMETHING BETWEEN NOW AND THEN PICK WHATEVER YOU HAVE, I WILL DO.

I'M OKAY WITH. >> I JUST THINK WE OUGHT TO HOLD OFF-- WHATEVER THE PROPER WORDING IS, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HOLD BACK UNTIL THEY GET THE CASH FLOW ANALYSIS.

THAT IS IT. JUST TO SEE SO WE CAN MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION. WORDED IN A WAY THAT EVERYONE IS COMFORTABLE WITH. I DON'T WANT STAFF TO BE SPINNING THEIR WHEELS ON GRANTS THAT WE SAY WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THAT. IF THAT SO WE DO.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WILL. >> BUT WE APPROVED THIS ONE,

RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS? >> WE ARE GOING TO.

>> IN THE TEN YEARS I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS, I'D NEVER SEEN US TURN DOWN A GRANT. AND I CANNOT THINK OF ONE.

>> WE JUST DID NOT HAVE AS LARGE OF ANALYSIS ON GRANTS WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO GET TO. THAT 30 MILLION WAS A HUGE

NUMBER. >> WHICH IS A GOOD MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE AND NOT BRING IN FINDINGS FROM OUTSIDE OUR WORKFORCE.

MONEY WE ARE PAYING IN TO THE STATE OR FEDERAL LEVEL.

AND WE ARE TRYING TO BRING IT BACK HOME.

SO IT'S A GOOD MESSAGE. >> I WILL TAKE BACK THE WORD MORATORIUM AND SAY CAN WE PAUSE UNTIL HE BRINGS US A CASH FLOW ANALYSIS? WE WILL DO A PAUSE, IS THAT OKAY? JUDGE, DO YOU WANT TO WEIGHT IN

ON THIS? >> I AM FINE WITH THAT.

AND I THINK THAT THE INFORMATION IS NECESSARY FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN, AND IT IS GREAT THAT WE ARE GOING AFTER GRANTS, WE NEED TO BE DOING THAT. BUT WE ALSO NEED TO BE PROACTIVELY GOING AFTER GRANTS WITH EVERYONE ON THE TEAM.

AND WHEN WE HAVE AN ENCLOSURE WITH OUR AUDITOR, WE HAVE GRANTS THAT ARE REIMBURSABLE WITH COSTS GOING OUT.

THAT'S ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT HAS GOTTEN US IN TROUBLE IN THE PAST. AND WHEN I CAME IN FOUR YEARS AGO WE STILL HAD TO COVID GRANTS THAT WE HAVE NOT CLEARED OUT.

WE STILL HAVE FEMA GRANTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN CLEARED OUT.

MOVING FORWARD, GRANTS ARE AMAZING AND WE HAVE TO GO FORWARD. AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE EVERYONE GOING AFTER THESE. I AM EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW TEAM THAT WE HAVE SET UP IN APPROACHING THESE WITH SCOTT AND GRANT WORKS, AND THE COMMISSIONERS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS. BUT LET US DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH A SHORT PAUSE TO MAKE SURE WHERE WE ARE FINANCIALLY. I HOPE WE CAN SELL THE PROPERTY TO PUT US IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION, WIGGLE ROOM.

WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. I UNDERSTAND IS ELIAS-- YOU DON'T SPEND THAT EVERY DAY. BUT SOME OF THESE GRANTS, AND

[01:15:02]

THESE DRAINAGE PROJECT ISSUES YOU HAVE, PURCHASING OF LAND, AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT'S QUITE A BIT OF MONEY ON THAT.

SO THIS IS A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE.

MOVING FORWARD. AND I THINK THAT WE JUST DO IT WISELY. WAITING UNTIL JULY WILL NOT KILL ANY OF US AND I AM ABSOLUTELY FOR MOVING THIS FIRST GRANT, THIS 5 MILLION FOR THESE THREE PROJECTS FORWARD TODAY.

THAT WOULD BE MY VOTE. >> WITH ALL THOSE THREE PROJECTS IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH MONEY, BUT THE GOOD THING IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO BUY LAND. BECAUSE IT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE OUR OWN LAND. WHATEVER WE HAVE WILL BE COUNTY LAND ALREADY. SO WE LOOKED AT THOSE SPOTS ALREADY WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE COUNTY LAND.

SO THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE ANY EXPENDITURES FOR LAND.

SO THAT IS A PLUS. >> AND THIS PROJECT-- IN THIS PROJECT, CORRECT? WE HAVE SOME OTHER PROJECT

REQUIREMENTS... >> YES, BUT WE GET TO THE

BEGINNING OF THOSE. >> BUT THOSE WILL BE LARGE PURCHASES. I'M JUST LOOKING AT EVERYTHING.

>> BEFORE I GOT HERE DID YOU ALL IMPLEMENT A MORATORIUM OR GRANTS

ARE REIMBURSABLE? >> WE WENT TO CASH MATCH.

WE DEALT WITH THE CASH MATCH. >> EXCEPT FOR A FEW SMALL ONES.

>> WE TRIED TO STAY AWAY-- SORRY, JUDGE.

>> CASH MATCH. >> 40% OR 60%?

>> CASH MATCH MEANS NO REIMBURSEMENT.

THESE ARE REIMBURSABLE 100%. THE CASH MATCH ONES, WE HAVE TO PUT IN 500 TO GET 500. THOSE ARE THE ONES WE HAVE BEEN

TRYING TO STAY AWAY FROM. >> BUT WE HAVE TO GIVE 10% OF

THAT OTHER GRANT BACK? >> THAT HAS BEEN ONGOING.

WE ARE NOT DOING AWAY WITH THE ONES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

WE ARE JUST TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM THE ONES THE BEST-- AS BEST

WE CAN. >> OKAY.

>> I THINK THERE WAS A MOTION. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE WAS A SECOND TO PASS THIS AND DO A PAUSE UNTIL WE GET THE CASH FLOW ANALYSIS IN JULY. FIRST MEETING IN JULY.

>> I THINK THERE WAS A SECONDER. >> IT WAS ALTERED.

WE NEED A SECOND FOR THE AMENDMENT.

>> FOR THE AMENDMENT OF THE MOTION?

SECOND. >> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

[1. Discuss, consider, and take action approving Supplemental Agreement No. 6 in the amount of $63,214.00 to the Engineering Services Contract with Hanson Professional Services Inc. for engineering services associated with the County’s Texas Pollutant Discharge Elimination System permits; and related matters.]

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? MOVING TO PUBLIC WORKS.

ITEM ONE, DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION TO THE SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER 6 IN THE AMOUNT OF 63 TO 14, TO THE ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACT AND ENHANCING ENGINEERING, FOR SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH THE COUNTY TEXAS POLLUTANT DISCHARGE ELIMINATION SYSTEM. AND I HAVE A NOTE ON HERE TO CONFIRM WITH FUNDING ON THIS. I THINK IT SAYS ROAD AND BRIDGE AND AIRPORT RAMP GRANT? DO WE HAVE INFORMATION ON NOT?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> IS THERE A PRESENTATION NEEDED ON THIS? OR IS THERE A MOTION.

>> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

BUT I HAVE A QUESTION. >> APPROVED BY PUSLEY, SECONDED BY GONZALEZ. GO RIGHT AHEAD.

>> WE HAD CONTRACTED WITH HANSON TO HELP US WITH OUR ISSUE AT HAZEL BAY. HAVE THEY COMPLETED THAT YET?

>> NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF, COMMISSIONER.

BUT I WILL LOOK AT THE TURNAROUND.

>> WE ARE ON A TIME CRUNCH ON THAT, COULD YOU CRACK THE WHIP

ON THEM? >> YES, SIR,, FOR SURE.

>> THANK YOU. THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

>> THE COMMISSIONERS STEPPED OUT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? JUDGE? NO?

>> NONE. THANK YOU.

>> WE CANNOT LET THE JUDGE RUN THE MEETING.

THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND. I WANT THE JUDGE TO RUN IT.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND WITH NO OTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

[2. Discuss and consider approval of Change Order No. 2 in the amount of $3,398.25 for the New Driscoll Community Center project; ARPA project funded with contingency allowance; Commissioner Pct 1; and all related matters.]

ON TO ITEM NUMBER 2. >> YES.

THIS IS FOR SOME ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE HAD TO MAKE WITH RESPECT TO THE ADA ISSUES WE HAD ON THIS PROJECT.

SO WE HAD THE MONEY TO COVER THIS IN THE BUDGET SO I WOULD

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS?

[01:20:03]

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION PASSES.

[3. Discuss, consider, and take action on conditional selection of vendors for Road Materials contracts under Invitation-For-Bids No. 3334-26; and related matters.]

IF YOU CAN SHOW THE VOTING PRIOR 1-2.

MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE. DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON SELECTION FOR VENDOR ROAD MATERIALS, CONTRACTS FOR BIDS

>> SECOND. >> JUST ONE QUESTION.

>> MOTION APPROVED BY PUSLEY. SECONDED BY MAREZ.

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? >> THE FENCE, DID WE TAKE CARE OF THE FENCE? IS IT COMPLETE COMPLETELY? I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE ELECTRICAL OR SOMETHING? THIS IS THE MEDICAL EXAMINER,

RIGHT? >> THIS IS FOR THE MATERIALS FOR

THE BRIDGE. >> TAX-- THAT IS THE NEXT ITEM.

>> I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO FINISH OFF THE FENCE.

IS THE FENCE FINISHED? YES OR NO?

>> THE FENCE IS COMPLETE. YES.

IN REGARDS TO ROAD MATERIALS-- >> WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER 3.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION ON THREE IF WE ARE STILL ON THREE.

>> SORRY. I AM ON NUMBER 4.

MY BAD. >> SO, IN LOOKING AT RETIREMENT METHODS A LOT LATELY-- AT PROCUREMENT METHODS A LOT LATELY, I'M SURE WE'VE DONE THIS WITH ROAD MATERIALS.

THE IFB, INVITATION FOR BIDS. THERE IS MICHAEL.

COME ON UP. SO THE IFB RETIREMENT, THAT WILL TYPICALLY GO FOR THE LOWEST BID. CORRECT? WHICH IS GOOD. AND I GUESS THAT IS MORE GEARED TOWARDS PRODUCT VERSUS SUPPLIES. SO, OKAY, GOOD.

I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. THAT WAS TWO PARTS.

THE SECOND PART GOES TO ONE. DO WE SEE THAT WORKS? THAT'S THE LOWEST BID VENDOR ON MATERIALS.

MY CONCERN IS WHEN I AM DRIVING AROUND, AND WE WILL ALL SEE IT WITH THE RAIN THAT WE JUST HAD. POTHOLES POP UP.

AND WE KNOW YOU WILL GET A LOT OF CALLS FOR US TO FIX THIS AREA, THAT AREA, BECAUSE IT HAPPENS FROM WEAR AND TEAR.

MY CONCERN IS WHEN WE GO LOWEST BID ON ROAD MATERIALS, IS THERE A QUALITY DIFFERENCE? OR DOES IT REALLY NOT MATTER WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ROAD MATERIALS? WHAT HAS BEEN YOUR EXPERIENCE ON NOT?

>> ON THE BIDDERS THAT WE HAVE, IT'S THE MOST QUALIFIED BIDDERS.

IN THIS CASE, THE MATERIALS THAT WERE SUBMITTED, THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE FLEX PAYS, THE CODE AND FOR THEIR OILS. OR IT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THEIR BID THAT THEY MUST FOLLOW UP ON REQUIREMENTS.

>> SO IT'S THE SAME STANDARD. IT'S JUST WHOEVER CAN OFFER IT TO US AT THE BEST PRICE. SO WE ARE NOT LOSING OUT.

YOU GO SOMETHING CHEAPER SOMETIMES YOU WILL NOTICE IT,

RIGHT? >> THE QUALITY IS THE SAME THROUGHOUT. IT SHOULD BE THE SAME BASED ON

OUR SPECIFICATIONS. >> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU. >> THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THREE?

>> JUST ONE QUICK THING. IN MY TIME ON THE CITY COUNCIL IT WAS DISCUSSED MANY TIMES ABOUT THESE ROAD MATERIALS THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAS TO RELY UPON. OUR SOURCES OF THAT HERE IN THIS REGION ARE PRETTY NARROW AT THIS POINT.

HAS THAT BEEN YOUR EXPERIENCE AS WELL?

>> PRETTY MUCH, COMMISSIONER. >> THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY COMPANIES PROVIDING THIS MATERIAL, IF YOU HAD TO BUY MAC FROM SAN ANTONIO, THOSE EXPENSES WOULD EAT UP ANY PROFIT YOU SAW

FROM MATERIALS? >> JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, ON OUR BASE MATERIALS THEY HAD A COMPANY THAT WAS HAULING IT FROM FARTHER AWAY. IN THIS CASE IT WILL BE A CLOSER SUPPLIER. A LOT OF THIS MATERIAL COMES IN FROM FREIGHT AND TRAIN, THEY HAUL IT IN.

IT COMES IN THE BOAT THAT THEY CALL IN FROM MAYPORT OR

[01:25:01]

SOMETHING. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. SEEING NONE OPPOSED, THE ITEM

[4. Discuss and consider approval of Change Order No. 4 for the Medical Examiner Addition & Renovation ARPA project, increasing the contract amount by $51,376.10, and all related matters. Items 1–7, totaling $186,936.00, will be funded using the remaining project contingency funds and will not increase the contract amount. Item 8, totaling $51,376.10, will be funded with additional ARPA funds and will increase the contract amount.]

PASSES 5-0. NUMBER 4 DISCUSSION-- DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL FOR THE CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 4 FOR THE MEDICAL EXAMINER ADDITION AND RENOVATION ARBA PROJECT, INCREASING THE CONTRACT AMOUNT BY $51,376, AND ALL RELATED MATTERS. ITEM 137, TOTALING ONE... WILL BE FUNDED USING THE REMAINING PROJECT CONTINGENCY FUNDS AND WILL INCREASE THE CONTRACT AMOUNT.

ITEM EIGHT, TOTALING, 51,003 ON AT $76 WILL BE FUNDED WITH THE ADDITIONAL ARPA FUNDS AND WILL INCREASE THE AMOUNT.

JUST WONDERING WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE DO THIS WITH THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS. AND A MOTION BY GONZALEZ.

SECONDED BY PUSLEY. TREES, IF YOU CAN ANSWER THAT

ONE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> COMMISSIONER, WE ARE WORKING ON ALL THE EXCESS ARPA FUNDS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR REDISTRIBUTION BY THE COURT. SO WE DO NOT ACTUALLY HAVE THAT NUMBER RIGHT NOW. BUT THERE ARE EXCESS FUNDS, AND WE WERE ABLE TO PULL THESE TO COVER THIS PROJECT.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM?

>> THE QUESTION I HAD. WE HAD SOME ARPA FUNDS THROUGH TERESA. SO THANK YOU.

INSTEAD OF HOLDING THE ARPA FUND FOR LATER, WE WILL USE IT ON

THIS PROJECT. >> YOUR ARPA FUNDS?

>> THESE ARE MY EXTRA ARPA FUNDS FROM OTHER PROJECTS.

>> OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION OR A COMMENT.

I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST GETTING THESE EXCESS ARPA FUNDS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO, THOSE ON TO PROJECTS GOING FORWARD. AND YOU KNOW THAT SEPTEMBER 30TH IS OUR DROP-DEAD DEADLINE FOR THESE PROJECTS.

AND THESE CAN ONLY GO ON PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN BID OUT.

AND I AM CERTAIN THAT A LOT OF OUR PROJECTS COULD PROBABLY USE A LITTLE PUSH AT THE END. SO THAT IS GREAT INFORMATION TO KNOW WE WILL HAVE SOME FUNDS AVAILABLE.

AND WE WANT TO DEFINITELY UTILIZE ALL THOSE FUNDS.

>> OKAY. >> NOW I'M GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE FENCE. WHERE ARE WE WITH THE FENCE.

ARE WE COMPLETE WITH THE FENCE? >> THE FENCE WAS COMPLETED, COMMISSIONER. AND I THINK THE CONTRACTOR GOT

PAID A FEW MONTHS BACK. >> THE ELECTRICAL PART GOT FIXED

ALSO? >> THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

THAT THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.

THEY PUSHED PRIORITY THERE. >> AND WE DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT? IT WAS THE ELECTRICAL PART THAT CONTROLS THE GATES.

>> I WILL CHECK IN WITH STAFF. >> THANK YOU.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION PASSES 5-0.

MOVING ON TO AUDITOR. IQ.

[1. Discuss, consider, and take action authorizing and approving an Agreement with Hilltop Securities Asset Management, LLC for Arbitrage Rebate Compliance Services related to the County’s tax-exempt obligations; and related matters.]

LAUREN. ITEM NUMBER 1, DISCUSS CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING AN AGREEMENT WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES ASSET-MANAGEMENT FOR ARBITRAGE REBATE COMPLIANT SERVICES RELATED TO THE COUNTY'S TAX EXEMPTION OBLIGATIONS AND RELATED MATTERS.

IS THERE A MOTION ON EMOTIONAL NOT MOTION ON THAT? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[1. Accept for records purposes Internal Budget Amendment No. 09 for Special Revenue Funds; and all related matters as of May 27, 2026.]

ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

THANK YOU. THAT'S A 5-0 VOTE.

ITEM NUMBER 2, EXCEPT FOR RECORD PURPOSES INTERNAL BUDGET 094 REVENUE FUNDS AND RELATED MATTERS ON MAY 27TH, 2026.

I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO PASS. >> SECOND.

>> ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY IT-- SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

[2. Discuss and consider authorizing Budget Amendment No. 10; and all related matters.]

I WOULD SAY THAT WAS A 4-0 VOTE. ITEM NUMBER-- DISCUSS AND CONSIDER BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBED MATTERS.

I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PASS THAT.

>> SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION NEEDED ON THAT. SEEING NONE, ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. THAT PASSES 4-0.

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ HAS BEEN ABSENT FOR THE LAST TWO VOTES.

ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? PLUS IT IS 1130 THAT I GOT ALL THIS DONE BY BEFORE HE WENT INTO

EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> IT'S 11:33 P.M.-- IT'S

[4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, 551.089, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.]

11:33 A.M. ALL GIVE YOU 3 MINUTES.

>> YOU TOOK 3 MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT ASPHALT! ALL RIGHT. HERE WE GO.

[LAUGHTER] >> PUBLIC NOTICE HAS BEEN GIVEN... COURT MAY GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ANY TIME IN THE MEETING TO DISCUSS MASHED-- MATTERS OF THE OPEN AGENDA.

WHEN AUTHORIZED BY THIS COMMISSION.

IN THE EVENT THE COMMISSIONER COURTS A LIKES TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION REGARDING AN AGENDA ITEM OF THE SECTION OR SECTIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY THE GOVERNMENT CODE VERNON'S TEXAS CODES, SECTIONS 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, 551.089, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL HOLD AN

[01:30:02]

EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH ATTORNEY(S) INCLUDING MATTERS RELATED TO LITIGATION; DELIBERATE REGARDING REAL PROPERTY, PROSPECTIVE GIFT(S), PERSONNEL MATTERS, INCLUDING TERMINATION, COUNTY ADVISORY BODIES, SECURITY DEVICES, AND/OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND OTHER MATTERS THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. UPON COMPLETION OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY IN AN OPEN SESSION TAKE SUCH ACTION AS APPROPRIATE ON ITEMS DISCUSSED IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE ARE RECESSED TO GO IN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 11:33 A.M.

AND I DON'T PART--

>> DON'T WANT THAT. OKAY.

WE ARE BACK AND IT IS 12:24 P.M. COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.

COMMISSIONER, YOU HAVE A MOAT-- COMMISSIONER PUSLEY, YOU HAVE