Oct 22, 2025 Commissioners Court - Regular

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO ITEM G, GO AHEAD,

>> AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

[G. Approve Fiscal Year 24/25 Financial Report and authorize the following "Outside Agency" Contract for FY 2025-2026: 1. Youth Development Foundation of Port Aransas - $1000- Commissioner Pct. 4]

COMMISSIONER. >> JUDGE, I NEEDED TO MAKE THIS AS A DIFFERENT MOTION. THEY SUBMITTED THEIR REPORT BUT IT WAS NOT THE REPORT THEY NEEDED TO SUBMIT, SO I WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE THIS CONTINGENT ON THEM SUBMITTING THEIR REPORT WHICH I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING ON, SO AS SOON AS THAT REPORT IS COMMITTED, I WOULD ASK THE CHECK BE RELEASED UPON RECEIVING THAT REPORT.

>> I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION, IF THAT IS YOUR MOTION.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> YES. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

[L. Approve application procedure for the following boards: 1. Nueces County Airport Advisory Board 2. Nueces County Animal Services Board 3. Nueces County Hospital District Board of Managers 4. Corpus Christi Regional Transportation Authority Board of Directors 5. Port of Corpus Christi Authority Recommend opening for applications from October 22, 2025 to November 12, 2025]

THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ON ITEM L, I PULLED IT AND I PULLED IT FOR CLARIFICATION. I WAS ASKED TO PULL IT ON -- WE'RE JUST APPROVING APPLICATIONS.

WE ARE NOT VOTING ON THESE YET. WE DON'T HAVE APPLICATIONS, BUT ON THE ITEM 3, 4 AND 5, THEY GO BY OUR POLICY RULES AND GUIDELINES. I WAS ASKED TO, EVEN IF I WOULD READ IT OUT LOUD, AND I THINK PAYTON PRINTED SOME COPIES OF THIS IN THE BACK JUST TO PREPARE EVERYONE FOR DECEMBER SO THAT WE ALL -- IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE DO EVERY WEEK HERE, SO IT'S UNFAMILIAR.

WE'RE GETTING MORE FAMILIAR WITH IT.

IT'S A POLICY AND WE NEED TO STICK WITH THE POLICY AND KEEP CONSISTENT. SO WE MADE IT A LITTLE SIMPLER. STEP ONE, EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL NOMINATE ONE APPLICANT FROM THE POOL OF CONSIDERATION.

THAT'S THE APPLICANTS THAT HAVE APPLIED.

NUMBER TWO, EACH MEMBER WILL RECEIVE AN ALLOTMENT OF TWO VOTES TO CAST. TWO VOTES IS OUR POLICY.

MEMBERS MAY NOT USE ALL OF THEIR VOTES ON ONE SINGLE APPLICANT.

YOU CAN'T CAST YOUR TWO VOTES FOR ONE NOMINEE.

YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR A SEPARATE PERSON. THEY CAN ONLY CHOOSE TO VOTE FOR ONE IF THEY WANT TO, BUT THEY LOSE THAT PORTION OF THEIR ALLOTMENT IF YOU ONLY PICK ONE NAME OFF THERE.

STEP THREE --

>> WHERE ARE YOU READING AT?

>> IT'S FROM OUR COMMISSIONERS COURT POLICY.

IT'S JUST A COPY ON HERE. THEY WERE JUST ASKED TO SHOW -- WE HAVE IT IN OUR POLICY AND WE PRINTED IT IN THE BACK.

STEP THREE IN OUR POLICY SAYS A NOMINEE MUST RECEIVE AT LEAST THREE VOTES TO BE APPOINTED.

THE NOMINEES WHO REACH THIS THRESHOLD FIRST WILL BE APPOINTED TO THE OPEN BOARD SEATS.

STEP FOUR IS IF ANY SEATS REMAIN UNFILLED DUE TO A TIE OR NO NOMINEE RECEIVING THE THREE OR MORE VOTES, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL CONDUCT AN ADDITIONAL ROUND OF VOTING AMONG THE REMAINING NOMINEES.

THIS PROCESS CONTINUES UNTIL ALL OPEN SEATS ARE FILLED, AND WE ONLY BROUGHT THIS UP BECAUSE WE WERE CALLED AND ASKED TO CLARIFY. WE WERE ASKED TO PULL THIS OUT AND THE PAPER PAPER BE IN THE BACK. THIS IS IN OUR NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT POLICY ON HOW WE APPOINT THESE SPECIFIC BOARDS. SO NOW -- WE'RE NOT VOTING TODAY. WE'RE NOT VOTING NEXT MONTH.

THIS WILL BE IN DECEMBER. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GIVE EVERYONE PLENTY OF TIME TO BE PREPARED AND HAVE THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF THEM.

SO I WILL NOW MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION PROCEDURE FOR THE FOLLOWING BOARDS. AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD, ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD AND THEN THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD OF MANAGERS, CORPUS CHRISTI RT, AND THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI.

>> I SECOND, JUDGE, WITH SOME DISCUSSION.

I KNOW THAT OUR POLICY SAYS TWO VOTES TO CAST, BUT ON SITUATIONS WHERE THERE MAY BE THREE DO WE --

>> OR ONE VACANCY.

>> YOU CAN'T GET TWO FOR ONE.

>> IT'S TWO. THE POLICY IS TWO AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY. I LOOKED IT UP, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THIS NOW BECAUSE THERE'S EVEN CONFUSION AMONG US. BUT IF EVERYBODY GETS ONE VOTE, WE PUT A NAME ON THE BOARD, NOBODY GETS TWO OR THREE OR FOUR -- I MEAN, YOU VOTE FOR YOUR OWN PERSON.

>> I SHOULDN'T HAVE -- I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO VOTE FOR SOMEBODY ELSE BECAUSE HE ALREADY NOMINATED HIM.

>> IF YOU DON'T PUT A NAME ON THE BOARD, BUT EVERYBODY GETS TO PUT ONE NAME ON THE BOARD.

>> IF YOU WANT TO.

>> YES, YES.

>> RIGHT.

>> AND THEN IF WE ALL PUT A NAME, YOU'RE ASSUMING YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE FOR YOUR PERSON YOU NOMINATED.

WE ARE ONE VOTE EACH. OUR POLICY AS WRITTEN THAT WE APPROVED SAYS TWO VOTES FOR EACH

PERSON. >> I'D LIKE TO GO BACK AND SEE THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WE APPROVED.

I DON'T THINK THAT GOT TRANSCRIBED CORRECTLY.

IF WE LOOK AT THE MINUTES, IF YOU HAVE ONE OPENING, THEN EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE ONE VOTE. IF YOU HAVE TWO OPENINGS AND YOU HAVE TWO VOTES AND IF THERE'S THREE OPENINGS THERE SHOULD BE THREE VOTES.

I DON'T REMEMBER US EVER SAYING --

>> UP TO THREE VOTES.

>> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE

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DOING.

>> I'D LIKE TO GO BACK AND LOOK

AT THE MINUTES. >> I THINK I HAVE ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND PAYTON WAS WITH ME --

>> I'M NOT SAYING YOU DIDN'T READ IT RIGHT BUT IT MAY HAVE GOTTEN TRANSCRIBED WRONG. I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THE VIDEO.

>> THAT'S WHY I BRING IT UP RIGHT NOW.

>> SO IF WE NEED TO MAKE A LITTLE TWEAK, WE CAN DO IT IN NOVEMBER SO BY THE TIME WE VOTE IN NOVEMBER, ESPECIALLY THESE THREE KEY POSITIONS THAT REQUIRE PUBLIC INTERVIEWS AND PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE APPLICANTS THAT WE HAVE THIS PROCESS DOWN.

IT'S GOOD TO WORK OUT THIS QUIRK IN OCTOBER.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> SO WE'RE OKAY, IF YOU NOMINATE SOMEBODY AND IT'S MY TURN TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY, I SAY I WANT TO NOMINATE HIM, ALSO?

>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO NOMINATE SOMEONE BUT YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO NOMINATE SOMEONE.

>> I'M SAYING IF HE WANTS TO NOMINATE SOMEONE, MY VOTE GOES TO THE SAME PERSON.

>> NO, BECAUSE THE FIRST ROUND IS EVERYBODY GETS ONE NOMINATION AND IT GOES ON THE BOARD.

>> BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT SOMEONE UP.

YOU'RE CORRECT. YOU CAN VOTE FOR HIS PERSON.

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, COMMISSIONER.

>> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE OF THAT.

>> THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE EVEN WE'RE CONFUSED.

IT SHOULD WORK IN THE LONG RUN. WE HAVE SOME KINKS TO WORK OUT, BUT WE DON'T DO IT VERY OFTEN BECAUSE THESE KIND OF BOARDS DON'T COME UP, BUT WE NEED TO CLARIFY, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE ON THE NEXT AGENDA WE WILL HAVE, IF THERE ARE ANY CORRECTIONS OR CLARIFICATION, AND WE WILL HAVE PRINTED SHEETS IN THE BACK FOR THE PUBLIC TO TAKE AND SEE BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT, BUT EITHER IT WAS INCORRECTLY STATED IN THE MINUTES, WHICH I'M NOT SAYING IT WAS -- WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THE VIDEO, KARA, OR ANYTHING, BUT THIS IS WHAT OUR POLICY SAYS AND WHAT WE PASSED.

>> SO, JUDGE, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT÷÷THAT -- I'M SORRY.

>> OH, NO.

>> MISS CLERK, YOU'RE PART OF THE PROCESS?

>> NO, NO.

>> HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HERE?

>> YEAH, NO, NO, NO.

>> GETTING CONFUSED FROM ALL THOSE YEARS AGO.

SO DO WE NEED -- WE'LL GET SOME CLARIFICATION THEN, COMMISSIONER?

>> AND IF WE NEED TO BRING IT BACK, WE'LL CORRECT OUR POLICY IF IT DOESN'T CLARIFY.

>> I'LL PULL UP THE VIDEO. EMILY IS LISTENING.

WE'LL PULL UP THE VIDEO OF WHAT WE DID.

I DON'T THINK WE DID THAT TWO VOTE THING, BUT MAYBE WE DID, AND IF WE DIDN'T DO IT, THEN IT'S JUST TRANSCRIBED WRONG AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING UNLESS AND WE CAN TWEAK IT IN NOVEMBER.

>> BECAUSE THE INDIVIDUAL THAT CALLED ME, I THOUGHT IF WE HAVE THREE OPENINGS, YOU GET THREE VOTES. WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE POLICY AND IT SAYS TWO VOTES.

>> THAT'S FINE.

WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT. THAT'S GOOD THAT YOU BROUGHT IT UP, JUDGE.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION --

>> I'VE INTERRUPTED COMMISSIONER MAREZ TWICE.

HE HAS NEVER GOTTEN TO SAY -- I'M SORRY.

>> I'LL WAIT.

>> I'M SORRY.

>> I'M GOING TO BEHAVE.

>> GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.

>> Y'ALL PUT THIS IN PLACE WHEN I WASN'T HERE, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAD TO MAKE THIS SO COMPLICATED.

WHY CAN'T WE VOTE LIKE WE USED TO, MAKE A NOMINATION AND VOTE?

>> I'M LIKE YOU, COMMISSIONER.

>> THERE WERE A LOT OF REASONS, COMMISSIONER.

IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AGAIN, I'M HAPPY TO DO

IT. >> I THINK THIS IS WAY MORE COMPLICATED THAN IT NEEDS TO BE.

>> BRING SOMETHING TO THE COURT.

>> RIGHT NOW IT'S OUR POLICY, SO THIS IS NOT ON OUR AGENDA TO DISCUSS RIGHT NOW.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> EVERYONE NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> WE NEED TO BRING IT BACK IN THE NEXT MEETING.

>> IT NEEDS TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA AND WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO DISCUSS AT A MEETING IF SOMEONE WANTS TO CHANGE IT.

>> I THINK THIS IS WAY TOO

COMPLICATED. >> THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION PROCEDURE. BUT WE HAVE TOO MANY PHONE CALLS ABOUT PEOPLE WANTING CLARIFICATION IS THE REASON WE DID WHAT OUR POLICY WAS --

>> WE'RE CONFUSED, TOO.

>> WE ARE. WE'RE CONFUSED, TOO, IS WHY.

>> SORRY. WE ONLY DO THESE BIG APPOINTMENTS, WE CONSIDER THE BIG THREE, ONLY ONCE A YEAR.

>> SOME OF THEM ARE LONGER.

>> I'M SORRY, YEAH.

>> SEVERAL YEARS, YEAH. THANK YOU.

>> EVERY THREE YEARS. SO THAT'S PART OF WHY WE WANT TO REMIND OURSELVES OF THIS, BUT ALSO, TOO, FOR THESE HIGHER PROFILE POSITIONS WHERE WE KNOW THERE'S MORE INTEREST, THERE ARE PEOPLE, APPLICANTS WHO WILL BE GIVEN TIME TO SPEAK, RIGHT? SPEAK BEFORE THE COURT AND THE COMMUNITY TO HEAR WHAT THE RESPONSE IS, WHY THEY'RE WANTING TO SERVE.

AND IS THERE A QUESTION/ANSWER?

>> WE GIVE THEM A FEW MINUTES TO SPEAK, YES.

BUT THAT'S ALL PART OF ANOTHER WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA ITEM TODAY.

>> IF THE MINUTES ARE INCORRECT, I ABSOLUTELY WILL CORRECT THEM, AND I APOLOGIZE AND TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT.

>> WE'LL LOOK AT THE VIDEO.

>> YEAH, YEAH.

>> NOBODY IS SAYING THEY ARE YET.

>> BUT IF THEY ARE, WE'LL CORRECT THEM, BUT THAT'S

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WHY THEY'RE ALSO ON THE AGENDA SO PERHAPS READ THEM PRIOR TO APPROVING THEM.

>> WE DO --

>> SO IF THERE IS A MISTAKE --

>> IT MAY HAVE GOTTEN TRANSCRIBED WRONG AND WE JUST DIDN'T CATCH IT. I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS ANYBODY'S

FAULT. >> I'M SAYING IF IT IS, I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AND WE'LL FIX IT.

>> IT COULD HAVE BEEN OURS. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO OPEN THE APPLICATION PROCEDURE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> THESE PROCEDURES HERE?

>> THIS IS JUST APPLICATION FOR APPLICANTS TO APPLY FOR THE BOARDS, YES, YES. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

>> AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NOW I'M EVEN CONFUSED ON HOW TO VOTE. WHAT AM I DOING? THE MOTION PASSES TO OPEN FOR APPLICATIONS. THIS IS NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT OUR PROCESS. IT'S ONLY ALLOWING PEOPLE

[1. Discuss and consider accepting and adopting the Meeting Minutes from October 8, 2025.]

TO APPLY FOR THOSE POSITIONS. THANK YOU.

>>> MOVING ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA.

REGULAR AGENDA A, ACCEPTING THE MEETINGS FROM OCTOBER 8, 2025, MEETING. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? AND MY STAFF DOES LOOK THESE OVER AND COMPARE, SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[2. Receive presentation from Robert MacDonald for the 2050 Metropolitan Transportation Plan and all related matters.]

ITEM NUMBER TWO, RECEIVE A PRESENTATION FROM ROBERT MACDONALD FOR THE 20 50 METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND ALL RELATED MATTERS.

THANK YOU. >> I HAVE MY PROPS.

>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE SCOTT. IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. SOMEONE IS CONTROLLING THE

SLIDES? >> YES.

>> THANK YOU. WE'LL GO PRETTY QUICK ON THIS.

SO, AGAIN, THE CORPUS CHRISTI MPO, YOU MAY NOT HAVE HEARD OF US TOO OFTEN, BUT WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR 55 YEARS. IN TEXAS THERE'S 25 OF THE MPOS, NATIONALLY 440 MPOS. MPOS WERE CREATED TO CONSOLIDATE THE DISCUSSIONS AROUND PRIMARILY TRANSPORTATION. OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DIDN'T WANT TO TALK TO EVERY CITY, COUNTY IN THE LAND BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT AS EFFICIENT. SO BACK THEN THEY SET UP THE MPOS, SO WE'RE THE MPO FOR THIS AREA.

I'LL SHOW YOU OUR BOUNDARIES IN A MINUTE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO HERE'S THE LOGOS OF OUR PARTNERS. YOU CAN SEESEE NUECES COUNTY LOGO IS UP THERE AS WELL AS ALL OF OUR OTHER PARTNERS. YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH A LOT OF THEM, BUT FOR THIS GROUP REALLY CAN MOVE THE NEEDLE ON SELECTING TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.

NOW MY PROP TODAY TO GET YOU THINKING ABOUT I HAVE A BILLION DOLLARS IN FRONT OF ME THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE, BUT EVENTUALLY AND, JUDGE SCOTT, YOU GET TO VOTE ON HOW WE ALLOCATE THE BILLION DOLLARS. THESE ARE MILLION DOLLAR BILLS SO THEY DON'T SPEND REALREAL WELL. AS YOU ALL KNOW, IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY TO BUILD THINGS. THINK OF THE HARBOR BRIDGE, $1.

2 BILLION. I NEED A COUPLE HUNDRED MILLION MORE JUST FOR THAT ONE PROJECT. AND SO, AGAIN, FOR THESE PARTNER AGENCIES -- NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE -- OUR LEADERSHIP OF THE PARTNER AGENCY, AS YOU SAID, JUDGE SCOTT, YOU'RE OUR VICE CHAIRMAN, AND SO YOU GET ONE VOTE TOWARDS THIS MONEY AGAINST ALL THE OTHER THINGS WE VOTE.

YOU CAN SEE THE LEADERSHIP WITH OUR TWO MAYORS, TWO- COUNTIES JUDGES, HEAD OF THE CORPUS CHRISTI BOARD, THE CHAIRMAN WHO CAME OUT TO OUR PUBLIC MEETINGMEETING LAST NIGHT AND SO -- NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE HAVE THE COMPANION TECHNICAL GURUS ACROSS THE REGIONS. YOUR OWN PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR IS ON OUR COMMITTEE. THEY ADVISE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS ON EVERYTHING FROM PROJECT SELECTION TO ALL SORTS OF OTHER THINGS. NEXT SLIDE. NOW I CAN PROBABLY SPEND AN HOUR ON THE BOUNDARIES THAT WE HAVE, BUT SUFFICE IT TO SAY THE VARIOUS COLORS YOU SEE, PURPLE THE MOST CENTRAL, THAT'S DEFINED BY THE U.S. CENSUS. THEY DO IT FOR ALL OF THE 400 400 MPOS IN THE COUNTRY EVERY TEN YEARS. THEY DEFINE WHAT YOUR POPULATION IS FOR AN MPO, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM 50,000, AND IF YOU'RE OVER 200,000, YOU'RE A TMA OR TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT AREA LIKE WE ARE, AND YOU GET DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY BASED ON YOUR POPULATION. THAT PURPLE AREA IS OUR POPULATION THAT DRIVES HOW MUCH MONEY WE GET.

OUTSIDE THAT THE YELLOW AREA IS THE AREA THAT WE, THE MPO, DECIDED THAT IS OUR BOUNDARY.

THAT'S THE BOUNDARY WE WILL DEVELOP OVER THE NEXT 20

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YEARS, AND THAT BOUNDARY WAS DECIDED A COUPLE DECADES AGO. WE'RE REAFFIRMING THAT BOUNDARY IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE NEW CENSUS INFORMATION OF WHERE WE'RE GROWING, AND I'LL SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT WHERE WE'RE GROWING.

WE SHOW THE TWO BIG COUNTIES, NUECES COUNTY AND WE KNOW THE DATA COMES OUT OF ALL SORTS OF PLACES AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.

AND SO WE PULL ALL THAT DOWN. WE BRING IT INTO OUR PLANNING. IT'S JUST EASIER THAN COOKIE CUTTING THE DATA, AND SO WHEN YOU TALK POPULATION OF THE COUNTY, OKAY, WE GET THAT.

AND STATE TOMOGRAPHER TWO WEEKS AGO CAME OUT WITH NEW TOTALS SO THAT WILL COME OUT IN THE PROCESS IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OUR MAIN PRODUCTS, ON THE LEFT, WE'RE KICKING OFF OUR TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

A THOUSAND- PAGE DOCUMENT. I'M NOT GOING TO COVER ALL OF THAT. AGAIN, I'M INVITING YOU ALL, YOUR CONSTITUENTS, YOUR STAFF, EMPLOYEES, TO COME TELL US WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT, WHAT YOU WANT FROM AND WHAT WE NEED OUT OF OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. WE'VE CAPTURED EVERYTHING OUT THERE NOW. WE HAVE EXISTING PLUS COMMITTED PROJECTS OVER THE NEXT 10, 25 YEARS.

SO WE'LL COMPILE THE 25- YEAR LIST, BUT YOU CAN SEE ON THAT SLIDE WE ALSO HAVE A TEN- YEAR LIST. IT GETS MORE REAL.

IT'S HARD TO THINK, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BUILD IN 25 YEARS? IF YOU START TALKING TEN YEARS, PEOPLE CAN START WRAPPING THEIR HEADS AROUND THAT. OUR NEXT DOCUMENT DOCUMENT THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, BARRELS WILL BE SHOWING UP SOON. LOOK FOR REROUTING, LOOK FOR DETOURS. THOSE PROJECTS WHEN WE VOTE IN OUR POLICY COMMITTEE, VOTES AND APPROVES THAT, IF A PROJECT FROM THE COUNTY AND YOU HAVE ONE ON YOUR AGENDA I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LATER. WE WANT TO GET THAT OUT THE DOOR AND ASK FOR MORE MONEY. BUILD IT IN FOUR YEARS AND KEEP PULLING FROM THAT 25 AND 10- YEAR LIST.

THE THIRD DOCUMENT UP THERE IS OUR WORKWORK PROGRAM, OUR SCOPE OF SERVICES.

WE ARE FULLY FUNDED, 100%, BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE CLOSED, WE STILL GET FUNDED.

WE GET OUR MONEY FROM GAS TAX. AND SO GAS TAX IS STILL FLOWING.

OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS FOR HIGH WAYS AND TRANSIT ARE STILL ON THE JOB.

THAT'S OUR SCOPE, WHAT WE TELL THEM WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE ROUGHLY MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR WE GET TO PLAN ALL THESE DOCUMENTS AND DO THINGS LIKE TODAY AND COME UP WITH ALL OUR PLANNED DOCUMENTS. THE LAST ONE IS A LITTLE STRANGE. THAT COULD BE ANOTHER HOUR PRESENTATION. I INVITE YOU TO JOIN US TALKING ABOUT CONGESTION MANAGEMENT PROCESS. WE WANT TO IDENTIFY WHERE CONGESTION IS NOW, WHERE WE THINK IT WILL BE IN THE FUTURE AND, MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT. NEXT SLIDE.

THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN EYE CHART.

SO THIS IS THE FUNDING CHART YOU CAN GO INTO THE DETAILS.

THE MONEY IN FRONT OF ME, THE BILLION DOLLARS, IS ROUGHLY THE THIRD IN FROM THE RIGHT ON THE BOTTOM, SO WE HAVE ALMOST A BILLION DOLLARS TO ALLOCATE ON THESE DIFFERENT FUNDING CATEGORIES.

NOW THE STATE OF TEXAS COMES UP WITH 12 DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

DIFFERENT PEOPLE, THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION AWARDS SOME MONEY, THE MPO IS ABOUT HALF OF THESE CATEGORIES. SO WHEN WE VOTE ON THE BILLION DOLLARS, WE GET TO DIRECT IT INTO TRANSIT, BIKE, PEDESTRIAN, WIDEN THE ROAD, EXTEND THE ROAD, SAFETY PROJECTS.

WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH, THIS IS THE MONEY CHART.

AND SO THIS IS THE CURRENT ONE. WE'RE GOING TO USE THIS FOR THE 10 AND 25 YEARS AS WELL AS THE FOUR- YEAR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. IF YOU LOOK AT THE FAR RIGHT, BOTTOM RIGHT-HAND CORNER, YOU CAN SEE IT HAS $444 MILLION TO ALLOCATE. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO ALLOCATE IT ON? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING, AND WE WANT THE PUBLIC TO START TELLING US WHAT DO WE NEED OUT THERE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS ONE IS A SNAPSHOT OF -- WE WISH WE HAD MORE PROJECTS, BUT THIS IS THE LIST OF OUR HIGHWAY PROJECTS, SO THE RED ON THE LEFT, THESE ARE IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE WANT TO GET BUILT. I'LL LOOK AT ONES FOR INTEREST OF THE COUNTY. ON YOUR AGENDA YOU HAVE A PROJECT THAT TIES INTO -- I THINK IT'S THE SECOND ONE NORTHWEST BOULEVARD. ON YOUR AGENDA YOU HAVE A PROJECT THAT THE COUNTY WANTS TX- DOT TO BUILD.

WE'VE ALLOCATED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR THAT FOR TX- DOT TO DO THAT PROJECT AND WE GOT TOGETHER WITH THE COUNTY TO DO A COMPANION PROJECT. IT'S MORE EFFICIENT THAT WAY.

YOU CAN ALSO SEE FM-43. LATER I'LL SHOW YOU THE GROWTH PLAN THAT YOU ALL HAVE. I WOULD IMAGINE YOU HAVE A LOT OF GROWTH IN THE COUNTY

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OUT ALONG FM-43. SO THESE ARE TIED TOGETHER.

SO AS WE TALK TO YOUR STAFF, AS WE TALK TO CITIZENS OUT THERE, THEY MAY SAY WE NEED MORE PROJECTS OUT THERE WHERE THE GROWTH IS HAPPENING. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

NEXT SLIDE VERSUS SCROLLING. I KNOW, SOMETIMES THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. THIS LIST STARTS TO SHOW THE OTHER MAJOR COMPONENT. ON THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE IS THE FIRST HALF OF FISCAL YEAR '25 FOR RTA OR TRANSIT PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS. IF IT'S FEDERALLY FUNDED IT NEEDS TO BE IN OUR PLAN. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LOOKS AT TRANSIT AND HIGHWAY.

ANYTHING THEY FUND HAS TO BE IN OUR PLANNED SO THEY CAN CHECK A BOX AND MAKE SURE IT'S BEEN THROUGH A PLANNING PROCESS SANCTIONED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND AS WELL AS TX- DOT AND THE STATE. THIS ONE IS ANOTHER EYE WASH.

AGAIN, WE CAN TALK A LONG TIME ON PROJECTS HERE.

THIS IS THE LIST, TEN YEARS TX- DOT IS GOING TO BUILD.

THE TOP HALF IS NUECES COUNTY. 624 SHOWS UP AND AND FM-43.

THESE PROJECTS WILL GET BUILT. THERE'S A PROJECT ON THE ISLAND, PARK ROAD 22.

IF WE GO OUT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PARKS OUT THERE, YOU NEED SOME HELP ON THAT ROAD. WE IDENTIFIED IT YEARS AGO. IT'S AT LEAST ON THE TEN-YEAR LIST FOR TX-DOT TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND FIGURE OUT THE SOLUTION FOR $17 MILLION, $18 MILLION. IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET OUT, HEAR ABOUT THESE PROJECTS, GET THEM PROGRAMMED. GET THEM IN LINE FOR FUNDING AND THEN GO FUND THEM. THAT'S OUR GOAL AND, AGAIN, WE'RE STARTING IN OUR 25 YEAR.

WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT PEOPLE THINK IS GOING TO BE NEEDED OUT THERE FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS ONE, I TALKED EARLIER, WE PULL IN ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ALL OUR PARTNERS HAVE.

AND SO THIS ONE IS THE PORT. SO THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI HAS A LOT OF PROJECTS. THE HARBOR BRIDGE STARTED AT THE MPO ABOUT 15, 20 YEARS AGO. THE MPO SAID WE SHOULD DO THAT BUT, AGAIN, THE PORT SAID WE COULD USE A TALLER BRIDGE TO GET BIGGER SHIPS IN. THE COMPANION PROJECT, WHICH WE CELEBRATED EARLIER THIS YEAR, WAS THE WIDENING AND DEEPENING OF THE CHANNEL, ANOTHER BILLION- DOLLAR PROJECT THEY LED THE EFFORT TO GET THAT DONE. SO NOW THE PORT, THEY HAVE A VARIETY OF PROJECTS THAT WE CALL THEIR COMPANION PROJECTS, SO THEY NEED HIGHWAY PROJECTS. THEY NEED RAIL PROJECTS.

THEY NEED PIPELINE UPGRADE PROJECTS BECAUSE THEY NEED TO GET THEIR MARKET, YOU KNOW, THE COMMODITIES TO AND FROM THE MARKET.

AND SO HAVING ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE, THEY LOOK OUT AHEAD AND WE, THE MPO, LOOK OUT WITH THEM. WE PULL THE PROJECTS THEY'RE APPLYING FOR, STATE, FEDERAL, ANY KIND OF FUNDING, AND EVEN IF THEY BUILD IT THEMSELVES, WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN OUR LIST OF PROJECTS SO WE'RE THE ONE-STOP-SHOP FOR ANY TRANSPORTATION PROJECT IN THE REGION FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS.

NOW WE DON'T INK IT AND PUT IT IN STONE.

WE UPDATE THIS EVERY FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.

WE KIND OF LOOK OUT AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT'S GOING ON AND DO AN UPDATE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS ONE, AGAIN, FOR THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, THEY HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS. IF YOU REMEMBER PROBABLY A YEAR OR SO AGO THEY CAME UPUP A ROADWAY MASTER PLAN, $1. 5 BILLION OF NEED FOR CONNECTOR AND ARTERIAL ROADWAYS FOR WHAT THEY THINK THEIR GROWTH WILL BE THE NEXT TEN YEARS.

WE DON'T ASK THEM TO REDO THEIR LIST.

WE SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND PULL IT INTO OUR LIST SO WE CAN SEE ALL THE PROJECTS GOING ON IN THE REGION.

THERE'S ALSO BOND PROJECTS. THEY ISSUE BOND PROJECTS, AND WE PULL OUT THE ROADWAY ONES PRIMARILY, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING LIKE A PARK, WE'LL LOOK AT PARK PROJECTS SO WE CAN CONNECT THEM WITH SIDEWALKS, BIKE TRAILS, AND OTHER THINGS, MAYBE EVEN TRANSIT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO WE INVITE EVERYONE TO BE PART OF OUR PROCESS.

WE HAVE A WEBSITE. PLEASE GO TO.

THERE'S A QR CODE YOU CAN TAKE A SURVEY ON WHAT YOUR PREFERENCE IS IN TRANSPORTATION. AND WE DID THIS ABOUT A YEAR AGO. WE HAD A CONSULTANT PUT TOGETHER A FOCUS GROUP FORUM OF 80 INDIVIDUALS. WE DID NOT ALLOW OUR ENGINEERS OR PLANNERS TO BE IN THE ROOM.

WE HAD IT FACILITATED AND GOT OUR DEMOGRAPHIC BASED ON THE U.S. CENSUS AND THIS IS THE DEMOGRAPHIC IN THE REGION.

TELL US ABOUT TRANSPORTATION. SO THAT REPORT CAME OUT.

THINGS LIKE WE NEED MORE TRANSIT SERVICE.

SO OF COURSE WE PASSED THAT ALONG TO THE RTA.

THERE'S A BIG NEED FOR FILLING POTHOLES OR MAINTENANCE PROJECTS. WE'VE GOT THAT FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE THE SURVEY YOURSELVES. WE WANT PEOPLE TO TELL WHAT'S

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IS NEXT, WHAT ARE THOSE PROJECTS? IS IT SAFETY? IS IT EXTENDING THE ROADWAY? IS IT TRANSIT? BIKE/PED FACILITIES. WE'RE IN THE, WHAT'S THE NEED.

WE'LL WORRY ABOUT ALLOCATING THE MONEY LATER. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AS I SAID, WE DON'T START FROM SCRATCH.

IT SEEMS ONLY A YEAR OR SO AGO WE DEVELOPED A 20- YEAR PLAN OUT TO 2045. SO IF YOU WANT TO GET A HEAD START ON READING WHAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE, GO TO OUR WEBSITE.

YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL THE INFORMATION. WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE EVERYTHING YOU SEE ON SCREEN AND EVERYTHING ON OUR WEBSITE.

THIS GIVES PEOPLE A CHANCE TO SAY, OKAY, WHAT HAVE THEY BEEN TALKING ABOUT? THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. BUT WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE THIS AND GO OUT TO 2050. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

HERE'S A VERY INTERESTING SLIDE.

AGAIN, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT POPULATION FORECAST AND EMPLOYMENT FORECAST, I KNOW MIKE WAS HERE EARLIER.

WE HAVE A TASK FORCE THAT WE CREATED.

WE'RE ABOUT TO GET THEM TOGETHER.

THE STATE TOMOGRAPHER CAME OUT WITH A NEW FORECAST AT THE STATE LEVEL. WE'LL UPDATE AT THE COUNTY LEVEL SO OUR TWO- PLUS COUNTIES WILL CONTROL THE TOTALS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE AND JOBS WE THINK AND THE STATE TOMOGRAPHER THINKS. MOST MPOS, CITIES AND COUNTIES USE THEIR NUMBERS JUST PERIOD.

IF IT'S 450,000, WHERE IN OUR REGION, HOW MANY IN THE CITY OF PORTLAND, HOW MANY IN UNINCORPORATED COUNTY, ARE THEY GOING TO BE ON THE ISLAND? WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO LIVE AND WORK AND YOU CAN IMAGINE DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY LIVE AND WORK CREATES IT TRANSPORTATION DEMAND.

PROBABLY IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS WE'LL ALLOCATE THE REGIONAL CONTROL TOTAL DOWN INTO SMALLER GEOGRAPHIC SHAPES PROBABLY -- WE CALL THEM TRAFFIC ANALYSIS ZONES, BUT THINK SMALLER THAN ZIP CODES.

WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF CORPUS.

WE HAVE THE WEST SIDE INTO THE COUNTY.

I'LL SHOW YOU A SLIDE IN A MINUTE.

THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS OUR FIRST CUT OF WHERE THE GROWTH HAS HAPPENED SINCE THE CENSUS IN 2020. WE'VE LITERALLY DOCUMENTED -- AND YOU CAN SEE IT IN DETAIL ON OUR WEBSITE, WE'VE LOCATED EVERY HOUSE BUILT IN THE REGION. WE HAVE ALSO PUT ON A MAP EVERY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY EITHER CITY AND SOME FOR THE COUNTY IDEAS OF WHERE THE GROWTH IS HAPPENING NOW AND WHERE THOSE FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS ARE ON PAPER AND ACTUALLY BUILDING OUT. NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS THE SLIDE I REFERRED TO. SO THANKS TO YOUR COUNTY STAFF, WE GOT THIS, I THINK IT'S ALMOST A YEAR OLD. THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING OF WHERE YOUR GROWTH IS GOING TO HAPPEN, WHERE YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENT PRESSURES IN THE COUNTY.

EARLY IN YOUR AGENDA YOU HEARD ABOUT FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT. WE WANT TO SEE WHAT ROADWAYS THE COUNTY NEEDS OUTSIDE THE CITY BOUNDARIES, AND SO AS YOU HEAR ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, AS YOU SEE WHAT'S COMING ON, WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOUR STAFF AND YOU AND THE DEVELOPERS AND WHOEVER ELSE HAS AN OPINION WHAT DO WE NEED OUT HERE? IS IT STREET LIGHTS? IS IT BETTER SIGNS? SIGNS AND MARKINGS.

DO WE NEED THE SIDEWALKS TO GO FOR A SCHOOL, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE THE LONDON AREA. WE WORK WITH TX- DOT AND THE CITY, THE COUNTY, EVERYBODY TO IDENTIFY WHAT THAT NEED IS.

AND WE'VE TALKED TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. WE'RE TALKING TO ALL THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS ONE I WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH THE NEXT FEW SLIDES. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE DO IN THE CITY AND THE STATE AND EVEN THE COUNTY, YOU PASS SOMETHING CALLED VISION ZERO. AND SO VISION ZERO IS A CONCEPT WHERE YOU WANT TO GET TO ZERO FATALITIES ON OUR ROADWAYS OVER SOME PERIOD OFOF TIME, 15 YEARS, 20 YEARS OR 25 YEARS. OUR POLICY COMMITTEE IN OCTOBER 2024 CAME UP WITH THE REGIONAL SAFETY ACTION PLAN.

IN ESSENCE WE DID THE ANALYSIS ON NATIONAL ENGINEERING GIRL.

THEY LOOKED AT ALL 75,000 ACCIDENTS OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS AND IDENTIFIED WHAT KIND THEY WERE, WERE THEY T- BONED, SIDESWIPED, RUN OFF THE ROAD, HUMAN IMPAIRMENT? WE READ AND HAD THEM READ ALL THE CRASH REPORTS THAT WE GET FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND DPS. SO THIS IS ON OUR WEBSITE.

I'M AFRAID TO SAY IT'S 1,000 PAGES, BUT IT'S 1,000 PAGES.

ALL THE ANALYSIS LEADS TO -- NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE -- OH, I'M

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SORRY. ONE MORE THING, ON OUR WEBSITE RIGHT NOW, IF YOU CAN GO TO THAT -- BACK UP ONE SLIDE -- ON OUR WEBSITE WE HAVE SOMETHING CALLED OUR CRASH DASHBOARD, SO YOU CAN SORT IT BY THINGS LIKE NUECES COUNTY. SO THIS IS A QUICK SORT THAT I DID, SO IT'S NOT TOO COMPLICATED, THIS SHOWS ALL THE FATALITIES AND SERIOUS INJURY ACCIDENTS IN THE COUNTY OVER THE FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.

AGAIN, IT'S A LITTLE DATED. WE'LL UPDATE IT.

IT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF WHERE THE FOCUS AREA, WHERE ARE THE ACCIDENTS, WHERE ARE THE FATALITIES? AND SO IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE VISION ZERO CONCEPT, AND TX- DOT'S CONCEPT IS THE ROAD TO ZERO, MEANING ZERO FATALITIES, THIS IS THE TARGET.

THIS IS THE TARGET AREA TO SEE WHY ARE ALL THESE FATALITIES HAPPENING. YOU CAN PROBABLY GUESS.

YOU CAN PROBABLY SHOUT OUT THE ONES, SPID, BUT A LOT OF OTHER PLACES -- ONE OF THE NEWS REPORTS REPORTED FATALITIES ON FLOWER BLUFF AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY. OUR CONSULTANT CAME UP WITH IT NEEDS MORE MEDIANS AND LITTLE SIDEWALKS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD FOR PEOPLE TO BE SAFE THERE AND STREET LIGHTS. WHEN PEOPLE CROSS AT NIGHT IN DARK CLOTHES, NOT IN A CROSS WALK, IF THERE'S A STREET LIGHT, IT GIVES A DRIVER A CHANCE TO SEE THEM ONE MORE TIME. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE END RESULT, AGAIN, THERE'S 32 DOTS ON THIS MAP.

SO AFTER THE ANALYSIS OF ALL THOSE CRASHES, ALL THOSE FATALITIES, WE CAME UP WITH 32 PROJECTS FOR THE TX- DOT OR CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI BECAUSE THEY HAVE MOST OF THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND OTHER THINGS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WE'VE GIVEN THEM THE LIST AND SOLUTION OF PROPOSED WAYS TO FIX THESE LOCATIONS WITH HIGH INCIDENTS OF FATALITIES AND SERIOUS INJURY.

SOME ARE, LIKE THE TOP ON THE LIST, $2,000.

RETIME THE SIGNAL.

>> WOW.

>> THAT'S NOT TOO BAD. OTHER ONES ARE $10 MILLION. SO THIS IS OUR FIRST SET OF PROJECTS. THE MPO -- I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME FOR SAFETY PROJECTS, WE HAVE RIGHT NOW ALMOST $40 MILLION TO IMPLEMENT THESE PROJECTS.

SO THE PROJECTS ARE NOW IN THE HANDS OF TX- DOT AND THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI IF THEY LIKE THEM. THEY'VE ALREADY ACTED ON, I THINK, FOUR OR FIVE OF THESE PROJECTS.

AND SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET THESE PROJECTS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WE'LL GO THROUGH THE LIST. I'M NOT GOING TO PICK ON TOO MANY OF THESE.

LET'S GO TO THE SLIDE AFTER THESE, PLEASE.

AGAIN, ALL THE DETAILS ON OUR WEBSITE, PLEASE COME TO OUR WEBSITE, SEE IF WE GOT THESE RIGHT OR OUR CONSULTANT GOT THEM RIGHT. NEXT SLIDE.

THE COMPANION PROJECTS WE JUST KICKED OFF WE'LL BRING OUR SAFETY TASK FORCE BACK TOGETHER WHICH INCLUDES LAW ENFORCEMENT AND INCLUDES THE ENGINEERS, TX-DOT, CITIES, COUNTIES, ALL TO COME AROUND AND LOOK AT THE NEW DATA AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING WE CALL A SAFE SYSTEM PLAN. IT'S A PHRASE AND A PLAN THAT IS DOCUMENTED BY FEDERAL HIGHWAYS THAT SAY THIS IS HOW YOU DO SAFETY PLANNING, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO TACKLE THAT IN PROBABLY THE NEXT FOUR TOTO MONTHS. SO STAY TUNED TO BE PART OF THAT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THERE'S MY CONTACT INFORMATION. IF I DIDN'T SAY GO TO OUR WEBSITE, GO TO OUR WEBSITE.

A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION IS THERE. PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME. WE ARE COMING OUT TO TALK TO OUR COUNTIES, CITIES, PORT, RTA. WE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING LAST NIGHT. WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE TOMORROW NIGHT. WE'RE GETTING THE WORD OUT.

AGAIN, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING EXCEPT WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND WITH TRANSPORTATION. WE KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES AROUND. BUT IF YOU THINK OF ANYTHING CONNECTED TO TRANSPORTATION, LET US KNOW. WE WANT TO HELP GET THE NEED IDENTIFIED AND THEN EVENTUALLY COME UP WITH THE FUNDING, AND I WANT TO GET RID OF ALL BILLION DOLLARS. I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE IN A FEW YEARS -- I DON'T WANT ANY MORE MONEY.

WE WANT TO GET IT OUT THE DOOR. HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT, AGAIN, WE'RE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU OFF LINE IN OUR NEXT SET OF MEETINGS.

>> YES, COMMISSIONER PUSLEY, GO

AHEAD. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE REPORT. I READ THROUGH IT LAST NIGHT, SO I HAVE A QUESTION, IF WE CAN GO BACK AND TALK A MINUTE ABOUT THE SAFETY PART OF THE PLAN HERE.

>> THOSE OF US WHO -- AND I DON'T KNOW -- I'VE NEVER QUITE UNDERSTOOD HOW THE MPO WORKS, AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A WHILE.

SO WE HAVE AN AREA, THOSE OF US TRAVEL INTERSTATE 37 ON A REGULAR BASIS, WHEN YOU'RE COMING ON THE SOUTHBOUND LANE HEADED TOWARD DOWNTOWN THERE'S AN EXIT TO 358 BEFORE THE -- OR JUST AFTER THE LANTANA EXIT THAT IS A MAJOR PROBLEM ON INTERSTATE 37 IN THE MORNINGS AND IN THE AFTERNOONS. THE TRAFFIC PILES UP THERE FOR A LONG WAY EVERY DAY BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE TRYING TO ENTER 358 TRYING TO EXIT TO THE LANTANA EXIT AND JUST

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BEHIND THAT YOU HAVE AN ENTRANCEENTRANCE OF THE ROAD. SO THERE IS A WRECK THERE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FATALITIES, BUT AN ACCIDENT ALMOST WEEKLY. AND SO HOW DO WE -- I REMEMBER VISITING WITH A TX- DOT DISTRICT PERSON HERE A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND HE ADMITTED THAT PLACE WAS A PROBLEM. SO HOW DO WE GET THAT FIXED?

>> YEAH, A COUPLE WAYS. I THINK THE FIRST ONE IS, NUMBER ONE, IDENTIFY IT. SO WE GO FROM ANECDOTAL, PEOPLE RECOGNIZE IT AND SEE, AND THEN GO GET THE DATA TO MAKE SURE, OKAY, WE CAN DOCUMENT THE ACCIDENTS, THE TYPE OF ACCIDENTS. IS IT BASED ON CONGESTION? PEOPLE STOPPED ON A FREEWAY --

>> WHO DOES ALL THAT? I MEAN, DO YOU DO THAT? DOES THE MPO DO THAT?

>> WE DO PART OF IT, BUT, ALSO -- IN OUR SAFE SYSTEM PLAN WE'RE DEVELOPING, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE WHY THERE ARE A LOT OF ACCIDENTS THERE. BUT WE DO THAT IN COMPANION WITH, ALSO, THAT MAY BE A LOCATION.

I KNOW TX- DOT HAS IT ON THEIR SECOND TEN- YEAR LIST.

UPDATE THAT INTERCHANGE. SO REBUILD THAT INTERCHANGE TO MAKE IT SAFER. MAYBE A TWO- LANE FLYOVER THAT HELPS THE MAJOR MOVEMENT SO YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE STOPPED, BACKED UP AT ZERO MILES AN HOUR WITH PEOPLE GOING AT LEAST THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT RIGHT NEXT TO THEM. SO IF ANYONE HAS ISSUES WITH THAT --

>> WELL, IT'S A COMBINATION OF THINGS.

IT'S PEOPLE THAT ARE FLYING 85 MILES AN HOUR DOWN 37 AND HALF OF THEM ARE TRYING TO GET OFF ON LANTANA AND OTHERS ON 358.

AND SO IT'S JUST A REALLY DANGEROUS PLACE, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOWHOW GET TX- DOT TO RECOGNIZE THOSE AREAS AND GET THEM TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

>> SURE. AND SO HOW WE GET -- AND TX- DOT IS PART OF OUR PROCESS. SO THEY'RE PART OF OUR SAFETY TASK FORCES. THEY'RE PART OF OUR OTHER COMMITTEE MEETINGS. WE TALK TO THEM ALL THE TIME ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED AS ISSUES AND THEN HOW DO WE SOLVE THE ISSUES.

AGAIN, WE TAKE IT IN SLICES, IDENTIFY WHAT IT IS.

ARE THERE EARLY SOLUTIONS, MORE LIGHTING, MORE ENFORCEMENT, SOMETHING THEY CAN DO TO MAKE IT MORE SAFE UNTIL THEY CAN BUILD SOMETHING.

>> HOW DO YOU GET THAT PROCESS STARTED? DO I NEED TO INTRODUCE A RESOLUTION HERE AT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND PASS IT ON TO THE MPO OR TO TX-DOT?

>> NO.

>> HOW DO YOU GET SOMEBODY TO -- I KNOW TX- DOT KNOWS THIS IS A PROBLEM BECAUSE I HAD ONE OF THEM ADMIT IT TO ME, SO HOW DO WE GET THEM TO START TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

>> COMMISSIONER, YOU JUST DID IT.

IT WILL BE ON OUR LIST.

>> GREAT.

>> WE TAKE ALL THE COMMENTS FROM --

>> THANK YOU. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BEAT YOU UP ABOUT IT. IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY YOU SEE THESE ACCIDENTS IN THE THE PLACE AND WE JUST IGNORE IT LIKE IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

TX- DOT NEEDS TO -- YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI IS FIFTH IN THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR TRAFFIC FATALITIES RELATED TO SPEEDING, FIFTH IN THE STATE. WE BEAT EVEN SOME OF THE MAJOR CITIES LIKE HOUSTON AND PLACES LIKE THAT. AND SO ANYTHING TX- DOT CAN DO TO ADDRESS AND THOSE ACCIDENTS AND DEATHS RELATED TO THAT ARE HAPPENING ON INTERSTATE 37.

>> THIS IS THE PERFECT START. AND SO, AS WE CONTINUE TO TALK TO TX- DOT --

>> WE ARE ONE OF THE FEW CITIES THAT STILL HAS A 75-MILE-AN- HOUR SPEED LIMIT INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS OF CORPUS CHRISTI.

MOST ALL OTHER CITIES, IF YOU TRAVEL AROUND, WHEN YOU ENTER THE CITY LIMITS, THE SPEED LIMIT DROPS TO 65 MILES AN HOUR. WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW CITIES THAT HAS NOT DONE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVEN'T FIXED THAT.

THANK YOU.

>> YES, COMMISSIONER.

>> SINCE WE'RE ADDING ROADS. WHAT ABOUT 361 AND, YOU KNOW, WHERE IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT DEADLY CRASHES, THAT'S ABOUT AS BAD AS IT COMES.

WHERE IS THAT ON THE LIST?

>> YEAH, 361 WAS ON OUR LAST 25-YEAR PLAN NEAR THE BOTTOM.

AGAIN, IT JUST DIDN'T GET INTO THE FUNDING STREAM AS FAR UP AS SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS GOING ON NOW. WE KNOW IT'S AN ISSUE.

TX- DOT KNOWS IT'S AN ISSUE. THEY'VE STARTED A PROCESS PROBABLY SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS AGO, ON THE ISLAND. THEY HAD SOME PUBLIC MEETINGS TO IDENTIFY. THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE PLANNING PART, THE CLEARANCE, THE EARLY DESIGN PARAMETERS, SAFETY ISSUES OF 361 FROM PARK ROAD 22 ALL THE WAY UP TO PORT A. ONLY SOME OF THAT IS IN THE MPO.

THEY DON'T STOP THINKING AT A BOUNDARY, THEY KNOW IT'S AN ISSUE ALL THE WAY UP. WE HAVE THE CRASH STATISTICS FOR THE FULL TWO- COUNTIES AND SO THEY HAVE THE SAME DATA. WE HAVE THE SAME DATA. AND SO WE KNOW

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THEY'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS.

EVERYTHING FROM, AS I SAID, YOU DO IT IN PHASES.

IF YOU CAN GET MORE LIGHTING, BETTER CONTROL OF THE ACCESS POINTS, SIGNS AND MARKINGS, MAYBE MORE ENFORCEMENT, SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TX- DOT LOOKS AT THEY CAN IMPLEMENT FIRST. WE CAN PROVIDE THEM MONEY TO DO THAT. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN MONEY THAT THEY CAN LOOK AT THE FIRST THING. BECAUSE YOU ALL UNDERSTAND HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET A PROJECT DESIGNED THROUGH THE FEDERAL PROCESS AND READY FOR CONSTRUCTION. IT TAKES SIX, EIGHT YEARS IF YOU'RE REALLY MOVING QUICKLY. HAS 361 UNDER WAY FOR STUDY. THE EARLY ACTION ITEMS, I KNOW TX-DOT IS LOOKING AT IS THERE ANYTHING THEY CAN DO WITH THE MONEY THEY HAVE NOW, SAFETY DOLLARS, OR DISCRETIONARY DOLLARS, TO IMPLEMENT SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT CORRIDOR.

>> SO WHEN YOU SAY IT'S NOT ALL MPO, TELL ME WHY THAT IS.

>> YEAH, OUR MPO BOUNDARIES ARE A LITTLE STRANGE.

BECAUSE IT'S DEFINED BY THE U.S.

CENSUS AS FAR AS WHERE THE POPULATION IS AND WHERE IT'S OUTSIDE OUR AREA, AND SO THE PORT, PORT A IS NOT BIG ENOUGH TO BE ITS OWN MPO BUT IS OUTSIDE OUR URBANIZED AREA. IT'S A U.S.

CENSUS DEFINITION. IT'S A LITTLE SQUIRRELY.

>> IT'S A LOT SQUIRRELY. IT'S IN NUECES COUNTY.

>> THE MPO CAN TAKE ALL THREE COUNTIES IN OUR STATISTICAL AREA, BUT OUR POLICY BOARD DECIDED NOT TO YEARS AGO, AND STILL HAVEN'T DECIDED TO DO THAT.

BUT WE CAN DO THE ANALYSIS. WE HAVE THE DATA SO TX- DOT, FOR A ROADWAY THAT STRADDLES THE BOUNDARY, THEY CAN DO THAT. WE DID ONE ON I- 37 UP BY RED BIRD LANE. TX- DOT DIDN'T STOP THE BRIDGE OVER THE RIVER. THEY WENT TO THE LOGICAL TERMINAL.

>> AND I ALWAYS HATE THAT THE STATISTIC IS THE CRASH DATA.

HOW ABOUT THE TRAFFIC DATA? I DON'T -- I MEAN, IT'S REALLY KIND OF SAD THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE MORE CRASHES TO HAVE ATTENTION. THAT'S A LITTLE DISCOURAGING WHEN YOU SAY THE CRASH DATA, BECAUSE THE CRASHES ON THAT ROAD HAVE BEEN TRAUMATIC, OVERWHELMING, AND WHETHER IT'S ONE OR A THOUSAND IT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD IS UNBELIEVABLE. YOU'RE TALKING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DRIVING DOWN THAT ROAD, ESPECIALLY DURING THE HIGH SEASON BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS AND IT'S THAT ROAD AND THE FERRY AND THE FERRY IS ALWAYS AN HOUR WAIT SO A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO GO ON THE FERRY OR THEY'RE COMING FROM CORPUS, THIS DIRECTION INSTEAD OF THERE. THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. YOU KEEP HEARING IT'S ON THE LIST, BUT I THINK 361 HAS BEEN ON THE LIST FOR, AS YOU SAID, IN THE LAST 25- YEAR STUDY AND NOTHING IS GETTING DONE. NOT NOTHING.

IT DID SOMETHING. THEY ADDED A TURN LANE FOR PART OF IT OR WIDENED IT A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T GET WHAT IT TAKES TO GET THAT ONE MOVED UP.

>> SURE.

>> BECAUSE IF I NEED TO MAKE MORE COMMENTS, THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING. IF SOMEONE ELSE NEEDS TO MAKE MORE COMMENTS, WE CAN DO THAT.

I DON'T -- SINCE COMMISSIONER PUSLEY HAS SO MUCH STROKE, HE HAS IT ON THE LIST.

I WANT MINE ON THERE, TOO.

>> COMMISSIONER, 361 IS ALREADY ON THE LIST.

>> BUT IT NEEDS TO BE ACTUALLY UP THE LIST.

I GUESS THAT ONE NEEDS TO BE MOVED UP THE LIST SOMEHOW.

AND CRASH DATA IS NOT WHAT I HOPE IS THE ONLY EVALUATOR.

IT SHOULD BE TRAFFIC INCREASES BECAUSE, HOLY COW, YOU KNOW, SITTING ON THAT ROAD IS UNREAL AND THE OTHER ONE I HAVE TO ASK ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE WE ON THE SECOND CAUSEWAY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ANOTHER SAFETY HAZARD, AND I KNOW THAT THE GOVERNOR HAD MOVED THAT UP BY MOVING UP THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY AND YOU HAVE TO DO THAT. BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD MUCH ABOUT THAT ONE EITHER.

SO I'LL ASK YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT IT.

>> HAPPY TO. COMMISSIONER, BACK TO 361 FIRST, IT'S NOT JUST THE TRAFFIC DATA.

NOT JUST THE ACCIDENT DATA. WE HAVE THE TRAFFIC DATA. WE HAVE SOMETHING CALLED BIG DATA, SO ALL THE CELL PHONES, THE TRAVEL TIMES, THE STOP SHORT INFORMATION FROM THE COMPANIES THAT PROVIDE THE DATA ON NEAR MISSES. NOT JUST ACCIDENTS, AND SO THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES T THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES DURING THE PEAK SUMMER SEASON, EVEN THE WINTER TEXANS WHEN THEY COME DOWN. WE, THE MPO, HAVE DATA.

SO DOES TX-DOT. WE GIVE THEM EVERYTHING WE HAVE SO THEY CAN DO NOT ONLY THE STUDY ON 361 BUT WHAT THEY'RE CALLING NOW REGIONAL PARKWAY AGAIN NORTH PADRE ISLAND ACCESS, TX-DOT IS LEADING THAT. THEY HAVE NOT HAD A PUBLIC MEETING IN SIX, SEVEN MONTHS ON THAT BUT WE'VE GIVEN THEM OUR TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL SO THAT DOES FORECASTING INTO THE FUTURE BASED ON EXISTING CONDITIONS.

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OF COURSE THERE'S NO ROAD THERE NOW BUT WE CAN SIMULATE IF THERE IS A ROAD THERE WHAT TRAFFIC IS IT GOING TO PULL OFF SBID OR YORKTOWNE OR OTHER ROADWAYS. TX-DOT HAS ALL THE INFORMATION SO THEY WANT TO LOOK AT THROUGH THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE DOCUMENT, THEIR PLANNING DOCUMENTS, AND TALK TO THE PUBLIC AND ALLALL YOU AS WELL TO SAY WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP IN THAT PROCESS AS FAR AS PICK AN ALIGNMENT. I KNOW TX- DOT IS LOOKING TO, I THINK THEY'RE DOWN TO FIVE ALIGNMENTS, AND SO THEY HAVE A WEBSITE. HAPPY TO SEND IT BACK TO THE COURT THROUGH YOUR STAFF, THE WEBSITE WAS WHERE TX- DOT IS. I CAN CALL AND ASK THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE MOST CURRENT INFORMATION. AGAIN, I DON'T LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THEIR PROJECT EXCEPT POINT YOU TO THEIR PROJECT AND HAVE THE MOST UPDATED INFORMATION ON THE TX- DOT WEBSITE.

AND SO IF WE HAVE A LINK TO IT ON OUR WEBSITE, WE MAKE SURE IT'S THE MOST CURRENT, BUT I INVITE YOU TO GO TO THAT TO SEE WHERE THEY ARE AND WHAT THEIR TIME LINE IS.

WE THINK THEY'RE MOVING PRETTY QUICKLY TO IDENTIFY WHAT'S NEXT FOR REGIONAL PARKWAY AS FAR AS ALTERNATIVES, ANALYSIS AND COMING OUT AND TALKING TO FOLKS ON THE ISLAND, THE COUNTY, THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS AS WELL.

>> SINCE WE'RE PITCHING -- THOSE ARE MY PITCHES. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF THE 361 COULD GET MOVED UP THE LADDER, BECAUSE IT HAS NOT BEEN NEAR WHAT IT SHOULD BE AND CERTAINLY HAVING THE SECOND POINT OF ACCESS FOR THE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THAT ISLAND, IF THAT CAUSEWAY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF A STORM, GETS WASHED OUT OR CLOSED DOWN, THEN LORD HAVE MERCY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DO.

THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER MAREZ.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. I WILL FOLLOW ALONG THE LINES OF COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. PORT A IS THE SECOND LARGEST AS FAR AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COUNTY AND THE SECOND LARGEST IN POPULATION IS ROBSTOWN THAT I REPRESENT AND IT'S NOT IN THE MPO.

I KNOW TX- DOT HELPS COVER THOSE PROJECTS.

I KNOW A FEW YEARS AGO THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION AS FAR AS BYPASS AND DIFFERENT ROUTES. THERE WAS SOME CRAZY LETTERING INCLUDED AND DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO GET THROUGH THE CROSSROADS IN THAT AREA TO CONNECT FROM 44 FROM THE EAST SIDE TO THE WEST SIDE THROUGH ROBSTOWN.

THERE WERE LOOPS, ALL KINDS OF IDEAS.

I KNOW THAT TX- DOT IS PUSHINGPUSHING IDEAS. I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE MPO TO LOOK AT EXPANDING THEIR BOUNDARIES. A LITTLE CONCERNING THAT PORT, AND ROBSTOWN ARE EXCLUDED AND OTHERS THAT HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON.

WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING COMMUNITIES LIKE YOU SEE, MAYBE NOT AS BIG AS DALLAS OR HOUSTON, BUT DRIVE TIMES AND PEOPLE ARE COMMUTING TO AND FROM WORK.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO LOOK AT THAT.

BUT I KNOW THAT OUR JUDGE SITS ON THIS SO SHE CAN HELP GIVE THE COUNTY PERSPECTIVE AND ALSO CHAIRMAN GRAS IN GRANADO CAN ADVOCATE FOR US. I HOPE THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED MOVING INTO THE FUTURE.

THERE'S SOME WORTHWHILE PROJECTS AND FUNDING THAT WE CAN NEVER PUT ENOUGH INTO THE ROBSTOWN COMMUNITY AND INTO PORT A. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY WANTS ME TO GO AND ENJOY THE AREA AND SO I DID THAT THIS SUMMER.

BEING A LOCAL -- JUST JOKING. I CAN GO WHENEVER I WANT.

I'M A GROWN MAN.

>> IT WAS CLOSE, JOE.

>> MY POINT IS, AS A LOCAL, YOU KNOW WHEN TO LEAVE PORT A, RIGHT? YOU EITHER LEAVE EARLY, WHICH WE DID, OR YOU WAIT UNTIL THE RUSH AND THEN YOU LEAVE LATER IN THE DAY, BECAUSE YOU KNOW RIGHT AROUND THAT 10:00 TO 2:00 TIME FRAME, IF YOU'RE MAPPING IT HOME, YOU'LL SEE THE RED LINES JUST POP UP OF TRAFFIC STOPPAGE OR YELLOW LINES.

SO THERE IS A BIG CONCERN THAT I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR THAT PART OF THE COUNTY AS WELL. I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE WISELY AND BE EFFICIENT WHERE YOUR FUNDING GOES AND THERE ARE LIMITS, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THIS DISCUSSION SHOULD END AT THE CURRENT MAPS THAT YOU HAVE WITH THE MPO BOUNDARY SO I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE TO YOU CONSIDER THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER, JUST A QUICK SNIPPET. WE'VE BEEN IN ACTIVE DISCUSSION AT OUR MPO AT THE POLICY LEVEL ABOUT POSSIBLY ADDING ROBSTOWN AND PORT A. THOSE ARE ONGOING.

WE HOPE TO HAVE IT RESOLVED IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

THERE'S A PIECE OF ROBSTOWN THAT IS SAID MUST BE IN OUR MPO BOUNDARY BECAUSE THEY MEET THE URBANIZED DEFINITION. IN EARLY CONVERSATIONS WAY BACK IN MAY OF THIS YEAR, I WENT OUT TO OUR COUNCIL TO ASK IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO BRING THE WHOLE CITY IN AND THEY TABLED THAT, AND I'M TRYING TO GET BACK TO

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THEM TO SEE WOULD THEY LIKE TO JOIN THE MPO BECAUSE THEY CAN IF THEY WANT TO, OR THEY CAN STAY -- STAND PAT --

>> SURE.

>> -- AND, AGAIN, THE QUICK ISSUE ON THAT IS THEY GET TX- DOT MONEY FOR BEING IN THE URBAN AREA, THAT COULD BE, BUT THEY GET, CURRENTLY, TX- DOT MONEY FOR RURAL AREAS. AND, AGAIN, THAT'S A CALCULUS THAT THE CITY HAS TO DO TO

UNDERSTAND. >> SURE.

>> DO THEY GIVE UP, I'M GUESSING -- DO THEY GIVE UP $100 MILLION TO JOIN THE MPO AND THEN TWO CITIES, TWO- COUNTIES, PORT, RTA OVER THE BILLION DOLLARS.

PORT A IS THE SAME THING. PORT A. COULD COME IN AS PART OF THE MPO IF A FEW OTHER CONDITIONS GET SATISFIED.

WE'RE WAIT TO GO GET A REACTION FROM OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS TO SAY, YES, THEY CAN COME IN AND WE CAN GO ASK THEM, BUT WE HAVE NOT PURSUED ASKING THEM YET BECAUSE IT'S ONLY UNDER ONE CONDITION AND IF THE FEDS AGREE THAT THEY CAN, THEN WE'LL GO TO PORT A.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. DON'T LEAVE YET.

>> TALKING ABOUT TX- DOT, I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF FAITH IN TX- DOT DOING THINGS RIGHT AWAY EITHER. ONE CONCERN IS A HUGE CONCERN.

WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IT YESTERDAY AS A GROUP OF PEOPLE. IT'S ALL THESE RAMPS GOING ON THE FREEWAY AND OFF THE FREEWAY.

>> I'M SORRY? RAMPS COMING OFF THE FREEWAY --

>> RAMPS OFF WHICH ROAD?

>> ANY FREEWAY.

>> ALL OF THEM? ANY OF THEM?

>> THERE'S NO YIELD SIGN. SO WHO HAS THE RIGHT OF WAY? IT'S A PROBLEM BUS EVERYBODY COMING ONTO THE FREEWAY THINKS THEY HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY. EVERYBODY STRAIGHT ON THE FREEWAY --

>> I'M FAMILIAR WITH THOSE SIGNS. I KNOW TX- DOT IS, TOO. ONE OF THEIR PROJECTS THEY'RE JUST STARTING IS ON SBID TRYING TO REVERSE THE ON AND OFF RAMPS TO MAKE THEM SAFER.

BUT, AGAIN, THE YIELD SIGNS ARE STILL OUT THERE BUT I CAN BRING BACK THE ISSUE FOR THE DISTRICT BECAUSE THE TX-DOT DISDISTRICT, DECIDES ON THEIR TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND GOOD STANDARDS TO PUT THE RIGHT SIGNALS UP OR SIGNS UP AND PAVEMENT MARKINGS AND KEEP THEM UP TO DATE AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS REPAIRED. THERE'S A RECENT ORDER THAT CAME OUT THROUGH TX- DOT ABOUTABOUT NOT STANDARD SIGNS AND MARKINGS THAT CITIES ACROSS TEXAS ARE BEING REQUIRED TO TAKE UP THOSE SIGNS AND MARKINGS BECAUSE THEY DON'T MEET THE FEDERAL STANDARD ANYMORE.

COLORED CROSS WALKS ONLY GET SIX POINTS.

IT'S BLUE AND WHITE BUT TX-DOT IS SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO REMOVE THOSE.

SIGNS AND MARKINGS ARE A BIG DEAL RIGHT NOW.

AND SO I KNOW TX-DOT WANTS TO MAKE SURE IT'S AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE.

>> 287 OR 286, WHATEVER, DID AN SPID BECAUSE IT WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THEY DID THOSE WHEN THEY DID THE CONSTRUCTION. BUT THAT'S THE ONLY PART THEY DID. THEY DIDN'T DO THE REST OF IT. THERE'S A LOT OF ACCIDENTS THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE EVERYBODY THINKS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO MOVE OUT OF THE WAY FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO COME ON. IF I'M LEAVING THE FREEWAY AND I'M GOING ON THE RAMP, I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD GET IN FRONT OF THE GUY COMING ON THE ACCESS ROAD OR NOT OR HE'S SUPPOSED TO STOP. LIKE I SAID, THERE IS NOTHING TO TELL ANYBODY, HEY, YOU HAVE TO YIELD, YOU HAVE TO WAIT. I THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF THE ACCIDENTS. IT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.

AND WE HAVE ASKED SEVERAL US WITH A BRIDGE.

IT'S NOT A BIG BRIDGE. NOTHING LIKE THE HARBOR BRIDGE BUT A SMALL BRIDGE. AND WE'RE STILL WAITING, IT'S BEEN ABOUT SIX YEARS.

BUT WE HAD TO USE OUR OWN MONEY AND THEYTHEY THEY WERE GOING TO COME BACK AND FIX IT AND HAVEN'T THE OTHER THING I ENCOUNTERED PROBLEM WITH TX- DOT, THEY ONLY HAVE ONE EXCAVATOR FOR THE WHOLE DISTRICT.

WHENEVER YOU ASK THEM TO EXCAVATE SOMETHING WITH THE FLOODS, WELL, IT'S IN HOUSTON. WELL, IT'S IN THE VALLEY.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT EITHER, BUT IF YOU WORK WITH TX- DOT, IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF EQUIPMENT THEY CAN GET.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BE BORROWING FROM THE VALLEY OR BORROWING FROM HOUSTON AND NOT HAVE IT HERE.

>> LET ME BRING IT BACK TO TX-DOT, THE DISTRICT, AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. A GREAT PRESENTATION.

GREAT QUESTIONS. GREAT INFORMATION.

AND WE APPRECIATE YOU.

>> SURE.

>> WE'LL SEE IT AS PART OF OUR

PROCESS. >> IF YOU HAVE SOME MONEY, BUY

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SOME EXCAVATORS.

>> CAN I JUST HOPE.

>> WE HAVE PLENTY OF SEATS UP HERE IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO TAKE SEATS. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING

ELSE? >> IF I COULD GO BACK REAL QUICK ON THAT CONSENT ITEM YOU PULLED, I'M NOT TRYING TO GET BACK INTO A POLICY DISCUSSION, WE CAN DO THAT LATER, I DID WANT TO CORRECT MYSELF.

I DO REMEMBER WHY WE HAD THE TWO VOTES.

IF EVERYBODY VOTED -- IF EVERYBODY NOMINATED FOR SOMEONE AND VOTED FOR THEIR PERSON THERE WOULD BE A DEADLOCK. THAT WAS THE REASON WE GAVE EVERYONE TWO VOTES SO IT WOULD UNDO THE DEADLOCK.

>> THAT'S WHAT I SAID.

>> SO THAT WAS CORRECT. I APOLOGIZE.

I HAD A BRAIN FART AND YOU CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD.

I WANT TO CORRECT MYSELF FROM WHAT I SAID EARLIER.

THE INTENT WAS FOR THE TWO VOTES BECAUSE THAT WAY THAT WOULD MAKE SURE THERE WAS NOT A DEADLOCK. THAT DOESN'T MEAN IF WE NEED TO DISCUSS BACK BACK NOVEMBER, BUT I WANTED TO CORRECT THAT PART OF IT. THANK YOU.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

>> EVERYTHING WAS RIGHT.

>> I KNOW WE HAVE A PRESENTATION NEXT.

EMILY, CAN YOU GIVE US JUST ONE SECOND? WE HAVE TWO ELECTEDS HERE. CAN WE GET THEIR ITEMS UP SO THEY CAN GET BACK TO WORK AND WE'LL GET TO YOUR PRESENTATION RIGHT AFTER THAT.

HOPEFULLY THESE WILL BE VERY QUICK.

ITEM NUMBER 6. I KNOW THIS ONE WAS BROUGHT UP BEFORE. I THINK IT WAS JUST A TECHNICAL

DIFFICULTY. >> YES.

>> DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT NUMBER 10 TO THE ORIGINAL JURY CONTRACT WITH TYLER TECHNOLOGIES AND ALL RELATED MATTERS.

THE FUNDS ARE IN YOUR ACCOUNT FOR÷÷FOR THIS.

IT'S BEEN BUDGETED.

>> THE PROBLEM WAS AN EMT IS THETHE REASON.

I MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> I DON'T LIKE -- I'M STICKING WITH IT.

>> ABSTAIN.

>> ANY OPPOSED?

>> THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU.

SORRY YOU HAD TO STAND THERE SO LONG.

THAT'S A LONG PRESENTATION. TRYING TO GET YOU BACK TO WORK.

[7. Discuss and consider approving eliminating a Misdemeanor I Attorney Position and creating a Legal Secretary I position, in the total of $88,935.93, in the District Attorney's office; allocate the remaining funds from the elimination of Misdemeanor I Attorney Position for reclassification of other roles in the District Attorney's office and all related matters. ]

ITEM NUMBER 7, MR. GRANBURY, YOU JUST WALKED IN AND I KNOW YOU NEED TO GET BACK TO WORK VERY QUICKLY. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING ELIMINATING A MISDEMEANOR I ATTORNEY POSITION AND CREATING A LEGAL SECRETARY I POSITION IN THE TOTAL OF $88,935. 93 IN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ALLOCATE THE REMAINING FUNDS FROM THE ELIMB MAGS OF MISDEMEANOR I ATTORNEY POSITION FOR RECLASSIFICATION OF OTHER ROLES IN THE DISTRICT KRP ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND ALL RELATED MATTERS. IT WAS MY INTEND TO HOLD OFF BECAUSE IT HADN'T GONE THROUGH HR. I KNOW IT HAS.

I GOT THE PAPER THIS MORNING. THE ONLY REASON WE'RE BRINGING IT UP. WE EXTENDED THIS UNTIL THE END BECAUSE OF TRANSFERS, BUT MELINDA IN HR HAS LOOKED AT THIS. THE CONCERN WE HAVE AND FOR ANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITH THIS IS WHEN WE DO TRANSFERS AND ALLOW YOU TO USE THESE MONEYS, WE HAVE INCLUDE BENEFITS, PAYOUTS, ANYTHING ELSE -- ALL THE COSTS THE COUNTY INCURS, AND THAT'S WHY WE MAKE YOU WAIT.

>> SO, JUDGE, A NET ZERO PERMANENT SAVINGS?

>> LIKE WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST WHERE IF SOMEONE COMES IN --

>> TERESA WANTS TO ADD A QUESTION.

>> WE JUST NEED TO UPDATE THE ACTUAL COST FOR THE DELETION OF THE MISDEMEANOR ATTORNEY.

>> SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A COST SAVINGS IN THERE.

>> THERE IS ACTUALLY MONEY TO THE COUNTY'S FAVOR.

>> OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS QUICK.

>> HOLD ON SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH YOUR DEAL.

I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO PASS AS AMENDED BY TERESA'S REPRESENTATION BASED ON THE FACT THERE IS -- THIS GOES IN FAVOR OF THE COUNTY AND THERE'S A PERMANENT COST SAVINGS ON THIS.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? YOUR MICROPHONE IS NOT ON, COMMISSIONER, IF YOU'RE WANTING TO SPEAK.

>> THERE WE GO.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO NOT SO MUCH ABOUT THE POSITION OR SUPPORTING THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, SUPPORT ALL BEING CREATIVE AND TRYING TO USE WHAT THEY HAVE THAT HAS BEEN BUDGETED. MY CONCERN IS JUST THE TIMING OF THIS. WE JUST GOT OFF OF A BUDGET CYCLE AND JUST APPROVED IT AND NOW, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN IS THAT WE MAKE THIS STATEMENT TODAY BY PASSING THIS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EVERY ELECTED AND EVERYONE APPOINTED DEPARTMENT HEAD COMING BEFORE US FOR CHANGES, AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE WHOLE PRACTICE AND SPIRIT OF THE BUDGET. MY CONCERN IS JUST MOVING FORWARD ON THIS REQUEST, IT'S NOT ABOUT THIS POSITION.

I FEEL THAT YOU'VE DONE YOUR HOMEWORK.

IT SHOWS A POTENTIAL SAVINGS, BUT I THINK JUST THE PRECEDENT THAT IT SETS IS NOT GOOD POLICY

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FOR THIS COURT, SO THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH IT.

IT DOESN'T MEAN I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT.

>> 100%.

>> THE PRINCIPLE OF IT.

>> JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, EXCEPT WE MADE AN EXCEPTION DURING BUDGET FOR THESE EXACTLY, AND WE EXTENDED IT AND WE ALL VOTED ON IT THEN. I AGREE WITH UP 1,000%.

>> AND THIS ENDS THE END OF DECEMBER, THIS CAN'T BE DONE.

>> BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET CONFUSION THAT WE HAD, WE GAVE THE COURTESY TO ELECTED OFFICIALS TO COME BACK BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, THIS ONE TIME, TO DO IT. AND SO, JOHN, I 100% AGREE WITH YOU, BUT THIS IS WITHIN THE THAT WE PASSED DURING THE BUDGET.

>> AS LONG AS THAT'S CLARIFIED.

>> ABSOLUTELY, YES.

>> WE MADE IT AS PART OF --

>> RIGHT.

>> SO WE HAD A MOTION FROM YOU. DID WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

SECOND? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> I SECONDED IT.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[8. Discuss and consider allocating Chapter 59 Funds, $10,000.00 to each investigator and $12,000 to Administrative Assistant II for the total amount to be transferred $32,000.00 from the District Attorney's Chapter 59 Funds and all related matters. ]

ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER 8, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ALLOCATING CHAPTER 59 FUNDS. $10,000 TO EACH INVESTIGATOR AND $12,000 TO YOUR ADMIN II $32,000 FROM THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S AND ALL RELATED MATTERS. THESE ARE YOUR FUNDS THAT MUST COME FROM YOUR REQUEST. THIS MUST BE A VOTE ON THE COURT, A RECORD OF THIS. YOU DO HAVE THE FUNDS IN YOUR ACCOUNT.

I WILL ASK TERESA?

>> WE HAVE BENEFITS, $38,555.

>> SO IT'S EVEN LESS, AGAIN.

>> THAT IS THE INCREASE.

>> SO IT'S MORE ON THAT ONE,

SORRY. >> YES, JUDGE.

>> SO THIS IS AN INCREASE? IT COMES OUT OF THAT FUND THAT YOU HAVE.

>> CORRECT.

>> IS THAT PERMANENT?

>> THIS IS SUPPLEMENT. IT'S A SUPPLEMENT.

>> IT'S A PERMANENT SUPPLEMENT.

>> LET'S BE CLEAR. THE SUPPLEMENT IS ONLY THERE WHEN THE FUNDS ARE THERE JUST LIKE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS SOME SUPPLEMENTS THAT SHE GIVES AND ALL OF YOUR EMPLOYEES NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHOEVER YOU'RE GIVING THIS TO, THIS IS A SUPPLEMENT.

WHEN THE D.A. CHANGES AND DOESN'T WANT TO GIVE HIS MONEY THAT WAY, THAT IS THEIR BUSINESS.

A NEW ELECTED OFFICIAL COMES IN, THIS IS A SUPPLEMENT ONLY.

>> PERMANENTLY?

>> OR IF THE FUND RUNS OUT.

>> YES, JUDGE. TO CLARIFY, WE CAN PAY FOR THIS FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS

WITHOUT -- >> WITH THE FUNDS THAT ARE IN THERE.

>> WITH THE FUNDS CURRENTLY IN THE ACCOUNT.

THIS IS DONE YEAR BY YEAR. WE HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU AND GET COUNTY COURT TO VOTE ON THE APPROVAL.

>> TO APPROVE SO IT'S NOT A FOREVER THING.

YOU COME EVERY YEAR TO GET THIS APPROVED.

>> YES, JUDGE.

>> CAN WE NOT DO THIS FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE TO DO IT YEAR BY YEAR? THAT'S THE LAW?

>> THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT, IT'S THE LAW, WE HAVE TO DO IT YEAR BY YEAR.

>> I THINK WE WANT TO DO IT YEAR BY YEAR.

>> HE HAS THE MONEY AND WANTS TO DO IT, THAT'S WHAT THE LAW IS. THAT'S WHAT THE LAW IS.

THAT'S FINE.

>> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> WE REQUEST YOU AMEND TO THE $38,000 --

>> THAT'S WITH THE BENEFITS THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED.

THAT'S ONE THING WE ARE BEING VERY CLEARED ABOUT.

WE HAVE FAILED TO DO THAT IN THE PAST AND IT HAS COST THE COUNTY MONEY, THE BENEFITS AND ALL THE COSTS HAVE TO BE CALCULATED INTO

THIS. >> MAY I ASK A QUESTION?

>> I HAVE A MOTION. DID ANYBODY SECOND IT?

>> I'LL SECOND IT.

>> EVERYBODY SECOND IT.

>> EVERYBODY SECONDED IT. I HAVE A QUESTION.

>> YES. GO

AHEAD, PLEASE, SIR. >> THANK YOU.

AND I'M SORRY TO ASK THIS. I'VE SLIPPED A COUPLE TIMES SINCE I WAS HERE BEFORE. WHERE DO THE CHAPTER 59 FUNDS COME FROM?

>> IT COMES FROM ON SEIZURES AND FELONY CASES.

IF YOU HAVE A MANUFACTURING DELIVERY, THEY HAVE THE SALES O

>> FORFEITURES?

>> IT'S FORFEITURES FROM THOSE AND WE GO THROUGH A PROCESS AND THEN THAT'S DIVIDED BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AND THE D.A.'S OFFICE. SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE GET CONTINUED REVENUE THERE.

>> AND WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY OVER THESE FUNDS WHATSOEVER.

IT IS UP TO THE D.A. 'S DISCRETION, HIS FUNDS LIKE THE

SHERIFF'S. >> WITH THE APPROVAL FROM THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. OKAY, I'M GOOD.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. OH, ANOTHER QUESTION. I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER MAREZ.

>> WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE, SO THIS IS NOT ANYTHING NEW. MY QUESTION IS, AGAIN, WHAT OUR INTENT IS AS WE'VE STATED AND THERE'S BEEN SOME HEARTBURN. TO ME THIS IS KIND OF LIKE THE DISCUSSION, THE DEBATE THAT WE'VE HAD BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE ON GRANTS. WE FUND THEM FOR A YEAR OR TWO AND THEN IT FALLS ON US TO PUT IT ON THE BUDGET.

I THINK THAT'S THE SAME ARGUMENT AND PERSPECTIVE I KNOW THAT SOME OF OUR COMMISSIONERS HAVE BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST. SO THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN.

ONCE AGAIN, I SUPPORT THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD THAT WE CAN SUPPORT THIS POSITION FOR NOW, BUT EVENTUALLY THIS -- I DOUBT THAT THIS WORK LOAD IS GOING TO DISAPPEAR.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT ABSORBING THAT WITHIN

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A FEW YEARS. NOW A FEW YEARS IS BETTER THAN NEXT YEAR, BUT WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION ON WE DON'T LIKE GRANTS. WE DON'T LIKE GRANT FUNDING.

EVEN IF WE'RE ONLY HAVING 20% OF A GRANT, 30% OF A GRANT.

WE COLLECTIVELY AS A COURT HAVE HAD THAT ARGUMENT AND THAT PERSPECTIVE BEFORE, SO THAT'S JUST MY CONCERN IS THAT THIS CAN BE FUNDED FOR NOW, BUT, AND MAYBE IT'S NOT THE SAME ARGUMENT.

MAYBE SOMEONE CAN CORRECT ME ON THE COURT AS FAR AS WHAT OUR DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST ON THIS.

THIS SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOOD FOR NOW BUT IN THREE YEARS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SWALLOW THAT PILL SOMEHOW.

>> AND I WILL TAKE THE LIBERTY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN A CONCERN WITH GRANTS. THIS IS CHAPTER 59 FUNDS AND I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ AND HIS CLARIFICATION AND US STICKING TO THE ANNUAL, BUT THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY ON THESE FUNDS IS THE D.A.

THEY ARE HIS FUNDS TO ALLOCATE TO WHOEVER HE WANTS TO.

HE CAN ACTUALLY EVEN, I THINK, BE PROSECUTED IF HE DOESN'T DO

THIS. >> THEY COME WITH BRACELETS FOR

ME. >> WILL THEY APPOINT ME AS A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR?

>> ALLOCATIONS, THEY'RE NOT GRANTS, BUT THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE THE FUNDS AND IT GOES THROUGH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THE FUNDS ARE THERE, GOES THROUGH HR TO MAKE SURE THE EXACT AMOUNT -- IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT GIVES TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AS WELL.

ALTHOUGH IT'S COLLECTED A DIFFERENT WAY, IT'S NOT --

>> AND IT'S NOT THE SAME.

>> IT'S NOT A GRANT.

>> IT'S APPLES AND ORANGES, RIGHT? IT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLES.

I AGREE. BUT IT'S THE PROCESS, IT'S THE PRINCIPLE. WE HAVE MONEY AND WE ARE ABLE TO AFFORD IT NOW.

>> NOW I GET IT. LONG TERM WE MAY NOT HAVE THAT FUNDING. WE MAY HAVE TO CREATE ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE THROUGH OUR BUDGET TO FUND THIS. THAT'S THE SAME ARGUMENT THAT I WOULD SAY FOR US IN THE FUTURE IS WHAT'S BEEN USED TO JUSTIFY TO TRY TO KILL GRANT FUNDING OR THE GENERAL CONCEPT OF THIS COURT WE DON'T WANT TO APPROVE GRANTS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO PAY OFF FOR IT. THAT'S, IN ESSENCE, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. IT'S NOT THE SAME WORDING BUT IS THE SAME PRINCIPLE. THAT'S MY CONCERN.

ONCE AGAIN, REMINDING US - - BECAUSE I SUPPORTED THAT.

I SUPPORTED THAT POLICY, BUT IT'S JUST A VERY SLIPPERY SLOPE THAT IT'S YOUR FUNDING. I KNOW YOU HAVE TO COME AND GET APPROVAL FROM US, BUT, IN THE END, IT IS STILL NOT A GUARANTEED FUNDING SOURCE, RIGHT. SOURCES COULD DRY UP.

HIGHLY UNLIKELY. THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE FORFEITURES.

>> I HAVE BEFORE.

>> IT COULD DRY UP. IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT WITH GRANTS. WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING WE DON'T WANT TO PAY SO MUCH EVEN 50/50 IS SOMETIMES JUST NOT RICH ENOUGH FOR THE COUNTY TO ACCEPT SO THAT'S JUST MY CONCERN TO REMIND US WHAT ACTIONS, WHAT STEPS, WHAT STATEMENTS WE HAVE MADE AS A COURT AND WHAT THAT MEANS GOING FORWARD AND I THINK THIS KIND OF APPLIES.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I WILL SUPPORT IT.

I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH IT. A REMINDER OF WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

>> IT'S A GOOD POINT THAT EVEN POTENTIALLY YOU HAVE THESE FUNDS AT YOUR LEISURE THAT YOU CAN GIVE WHEN YOU DO ALLOCATE THEM, IT'S ALMOST SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD GET THEM TO SIGN UNDERSTANDING THAT IF THIS FUNDING GOES AWAY, THIS GOES

AWAY. >> WE'VE HAD THAT PROBLEM BEFORE, NOT Y'ALL, BUT OTHER THINGS.

>> A REASON WHY WE WERE SHORT IS A LOT OF THE CONCERN UP HERE IS BUT I STRONGLY SUGGEST TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU --

>> MAKE IT PART OF THE MOTION.

>> -- MAKE IT PARTICIPATE OF THE MOTION BECAUSE ANYONE WHO IS ASKED TO GIVE A SUPPLEMENTAL FUND TO ANYONE THAT YOU MAKE SURE AND HAVE THEM SIGN A DOCUMENT THAT STATES THEY UNDERSTAND THIS FUNDING SOURCE GOES AWAY, THEIR SUPPLEMENT GOES AWAY. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO DO THAT, MR. GRANBURY?

>> JUDGE, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

I THINK IT'S --

>> I THINK ALL DEPARTMENTS, WHOEVER HAS THAT, SHOULD DO SOMETHING. I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY DOES NOT DISAGREE WITH IT EITHER, YES?

>> WE CONSTANTLY REMIND THEM OF. THAT WE CONSTANTLY GO OVER THE RULES THE COURT HAS SET IN PLACE EVALUATING SIMILAR POSITIONS RECEIVING SIMILAR PAY, SO WE'LL BE BRINGING BACK THAT THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR.

>> SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.

I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST WHEN WE DO THESE KIND OF THINGS THERE'S A SIGNATURE DOCUMENT THAT SAYS THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY KNOW THAT THIS IS WHATEVER WE CALL IT AND IF THOSE FUNDS GO AWAY SO DOES THAT SUPPLEMENT AND SHOULD BE PART OF THE MOTION BECAUSE IT'S CAUSED US PROBLEMS BEFORE.

>> I AMEND MY MOTION TO INCLUDE THE SIGNATURE DOCUMENT, THAT THE EMPLOYEE IS AWARE OF THE SITUATION.

YOU SECONDED IT. DO YOU ACCEPT THAT AS WELL? SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

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