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>>> IT SHOWS WE ARE RECORDING AND WHEN WE ARE READY IF I CAN ASK EVERYONE TO PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION, PASTOR WITH FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH WILL LEAD US , PLEASE CONTINUE FOR THE PLEDGE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> RESPONSIBILITIES FOR FIGHTING FOR THE DIGNITY OF ALL RESIDENTS OF NUECES COUNTY. THOSE THAT FELL ASLEEP LAST NIGHT UNDER THE STARS, IN A BAD OR ELSEWHERE. AND WE ASK, AS WE DRAW TOGETHER, THAT WHERE EMOTIONS RUN HIGH, WE WOULD HOPE CLARIFY FOR WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE AND WHAT OUR WANTS ARE AND YOU KNOW PEACE TO REIGN IN THIS COURTROOM TODAY AND HELP CONSTRUCTIVE COMPROMISE HAPPEN IN THE WAY THAT ONLY YOU CAN RING AND WE ASK ALL THESE THINGS IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT,
AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND
JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> THANK YOU, YOU MAY BE SEATED.
IT IS WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 8. WE ARE IN THE NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURTROOM AT 9:01 LEOPARD, I CERTIFY ALL COMMISSIONERS AND COUNTY JUDGE IS PRESENT AND IT IS 9:06, I WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. DO WE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OF DISCLOSURE OR CONFLICT OF INTEREST? IF THERE ARE ANY IF YOU WISH TO DO SO NOW. IF NOT, YOU CAN ALSO DO SO AT THE TIME
[1. The Nueces County Commissioners Court will hold a Public Hearing on Wednesday, October 8, 2025, at 9:00 a.m. in the Nueces County Commissioners Courtroom, 3rd Floor, Nueces County Courthouse, 901 Leopard Street, Corpus Christi, Texas 78401 to receive public input regarding abolishing the Office of Justice of the Peace Precinct 1, Place 2, December 31, 2026 to be effective as of the end of the current office holders term.]
THE ITEM COMES UP. NOW MOVING ON TO THE ITEM E I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 9:06, WE ARE GOING TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL HOLD PUBLIC HEARING WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 8, 2025 AT 9:00 A.M. THE NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURTROOM THIRD FLOOR NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE 901 LEOPARD STREET CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS TO RECEIVE PUBLIC INPUT REGARDING ABOLISHING THE OFFICE OF JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCT ONE PLACE TWO DECEMBER 31, 2026 TO BE EFFECTIVE AS OF THE END OF CURRENT OFFICEHOLDER TERM . I BELIEVE WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. I WILL REMIND YOU THAT COMMENTS ARE THREE MINUTES LONG. AND I WILL CALL JAMES MILES FIRST.>> HELLO. IN REGARDS TO CLOSING THE JUSTICE OF PEACE OFFICE THIS IS A DECISION THAT AFFECTS A LOT OF PEOPLE'S LIVES AND HAS A REAL MEANINGFUL EFFECT THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE OFFERS ONE OF THE MOST ACCESSIBLE FORMS OF JUSTICE AND ACCESS TO COURT FOR RESIDENCE ESPECIALLY FOR RURAL RESIDENTS. I FEEL ONE WEEK NOTICE IS NOT ENOUGH TIME. THIS IS FOR FISCAL OR BUDGETARY REASONS I FEEL WE NEED TO HAVE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING WITH ALL JUSTICE IS A PEACE. I THINK WE REALLY NEED MORE TIME TO COLLECT IT DATA ESPECIALLY FOR TRANSPARENCY AND MORE COMMUNITY INPUT. YEAH. THANK YOU.
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COMMISSIONERS. I AM HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE MY UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE ON THE JP COURTS , CURRENTLY I AM A JUVENILE CASE MANAGER IN THE COURTS AND ALSO A CANDIDATE FOR THE OFFICE OF ELECTION I BELIEVE KEEPING THE COURT OPEN WILL DEFINITELY BE A GREAT SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WHAT I SEE MOST OF THESE PEOPLE CALLING FOR MENTAL HEALTH WARRANTS IN THE COMMUNITY.JUDGES ARE NOT ALWAYS AVAILABLE WHETHER IN COURT SITTING ON THE BENCH , AT TRAINING, HAVING THE OTHER OFFICE AVAILABLE IS DEFINITELY A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY. WE GET SO MANY PHONE CALLS FOR MENTAL HEALTH BOARDS PEOPLE NEEDING ASSISTANCE AND NEEDING HELP WITH FAMILY AND LOVED ONES SO THAT IS A GREAT SERVICE THEY DO PROVIDE. ALSO THAT COURT IS ONE OF THE FEW THAT DOES PEER TRUANCY SO THAT IS ABOLISHED IN DECEMBER THAT CUTS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCHOOL YEAR SO THAT IS A BIG BIG ISSUE WITH THOSE CASES MANAGED BY THAT COURT. NOT SURE THERE IS A PLAN TO WEAR THOSE GO, HOW THEY WILL BE FOLLOWED UP WITH AND HOW STUDENTS WILL BE MONITORED , THAT IS A HUGE CONCERN I HAVE FOR PARENTS AND STUDENTS GOING TO THAT COURT IN THAT OFFICE.
ALSO THAT OFFICE HAS BEEN ABLE TO SIT IN ON OTHER JUDGE BENCHES WHEN THEY HAVE EMERGENCIES. WE HAD SOME JUDGES WHO HAD TO LEAVE FOR SOME FAMILY EMERGENCIES AND THE OFFICE WAS ABLE TO STEP UP TO HEAR THEIR CASES THAT WERE SET SO IT ALLOWS OTHER OFFICES TO BE CONSISTENT AND HEARING CASES AND KEEPING A PRETTY GOOD PROCESS KEEPING CASES HEARD AND HELPING THEM OUT. THANK YOU.
>> JUDGE I HAVE A QUESTION. CAN WE GET A MOTION TO MOVE THIS
HEARING AT THIS TIME? >> IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
>> UNDERSTAND. >> I DON'T BELIEVE IT WOULD BE TABLE MOTION , IT WOULD BE MORE IMMEDIATE ADJOURNMENT. YOU ARE
IN A PUBLIC HEARING. >> AT THE TIME MAKE A MOTION TO
TABLE THE AGENDA ITEM. >> NEXT UP ROBERT
>> GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS ROBERT GONZALEZ JP PRECINCT 5 IN ROBSTOWN WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTY, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE. WE ARE HERE TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW I AM JP PRECINCT 5 AND I AM THE DIRECTOR, THE STATE DIRECTOR FOR JP CA FOR THE REGION WE MONITOR AND EDUCATE 150 JUDGES AND CONSTABLES AND ALL THE PERKS THAT GO WITH IT. IN THAT , THAT IS SOME OF THE EXPERTISE WE HAVE WORKING DILIGENTLY IN THE LEGISLATURE AT THE PAST LEGISLATURE AND REFERENCE JUDGES AND CONSTABLE ISSUES ABLE TO BLOCK A LOT OF THEM EXCEPT FOR A COUPLE OF THEM. IN REFERENCE TO THE COURT WILL BE ADDRESSING THE ABOLISHMENT I FIRMLY BELIEVE WE ARE REQUESTING YOU DO NOT ABOLISH ANY JUDGE AT THIS POINT OR CONSTABLE BECAUSE WE ARE THE TANGIBILITY BETWEEN THE PEOPLE THEY CAN TALK TO AS WELL AS YOUR COURTS, YOUR COMMISSIONER COURTS, THE TANGIBLE PERSONS THAT NORMAL PEOPLE CAN COME AND TALK TO IN REFERENCE TO THE COURT IT DOES A LOT OF THINGS NOT JUST EVICTIONS, CREDIT CARD CASES, MAGISTRATE, BUT A LOT OF WARRANTS, A LOT OF STUFF YOU DON'T COLLECT MONEY FROM, MENTAL WARRANTS, PEACE BONDS, PROTECTIVE ORDERS, ALL OF THOSE ARE NOT DOCUMENTED IN THE OCA REPORT AND I GET FIVE THREATS TO MY LIFE EVERY YEAR FOR JUDGMENTS THAT I MAKE AND I WILL BE IF I TAKE ONE OF THEM NOT SERIOUSLY.
IF OCA DECIDED TO RECORD ON RECORD SO WE COULD HAVE THREATS AND HAVE THE DATA TO PRESENT TO THE SUPREME COURT SO IN REFERENCE PRECINCT ONE CARRIES BETWEEN 12 AND 15,000 CASES, OF WHICH PROBABLY 1800 OF THEM ARE EVICTIONS EVEN IN THIS CALENDAR YEAR BETWEEN THE JUDGES IF YOU WERE TO DIVIDE 1800 INTO TWO PEOPLE THAT IS 900 EVICTIONS, SENATE BELTED IT WILL CHANGE PARAMETERS OF EVICTIONS TO HAVING FOR MONEY OR EVICTIONS FOR VACATING AND I THINK THOSE ARE GAME CHANGERS IN THE
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EVICTION PROCESS. THERE WILL BE HOUSE BILL 97 AND HOUSE BILL 2037 IMPORTANT THAT JPS ARE GOING TO RULE. WE FOLLOW CLOSELY WITH THE LEGISLATURE AND WORK WITH SUPREME COURT AND THE COURT OF APPEALS AND AUSTIN THE LEGISLATOR SITS BY LEGISLATORS THE BILLS ARE WRITTEN AND WE FOLLOW THEM TO THE T AND IF NOT WE WILL BE REPORTED. SO AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME I TELL YOU ABOLISHING ANOTHER JUDGE IN THIS COUNTY WOULD HURT OUR COUNTY, HURTS THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE TANGIBLE TO JUDGE AN OFFICE, YOU CAN STACK ALL THE PERKS YOU WANT IN AN OFFICE BUT IT IS THE JUDGE WHO DECIDES. WHAT HAPPENS IN THE RULING. THEY NEED THE JUDGE TO BE THERE AND IF YOU GO FROM 500 CASES OF EVICTIONS OR MAYBE 5000, TO 7500 THAT'S A BURDEN ON YOUR JUDGE.>> THANK YOU. >> ONE MORE THING THE OCA REPORT I KNOW WE FOLLOW THOSE LIKE THEIR THE BIBLE. I CAN SHOW YOU
A SPREADSHEET FROM MY OFFICE. >> YOU CAN LEAVE IT WITH STAFF, THANK YOU. BUT THE TIME IS UP. LUCY RUBIO.
>> GOOD MORNING HONORABLE COUNTY JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. M JUDGE LUCY RUBIO REPRESENTING PRECINCT 1, PLACE THREE AND I SERVE AS THE CLARK WOOD, ANNABELLE AND I HAVE BEEN THERE SEVEN YEARS AND WE TAKE PRIDE IN OUR BUILDING AND A LOT OF PRIDE IN SERVING OUR PEOPLE. WE ARE THE PEOPLE'S COURT. I AM CONCERNED WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO DO BECAUSE WE FELT BLINDSIDED AS JUDGES BECAUSE WE DID NOT KNOW IT WAS HAPPENING. WE WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE BEEN INFORMED SO WE COULD HAVE COMMUNICATED WITH YOU GUYS AND MAYBE HAD A COMPRESSIVE PLAN ON WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH ALL THE JUDGES BECAUSE THEIR AREAS NOT BEING SERVED CORRECTLY BECAUSE ONE OF THE JUDGES AND I DON'T WANT TO THROW ANYBODY UNDER THE BUS HOWEVER THEY ARE BARELY MAKING IT, THEY BARELY MAKE SALARIES TO PAY FOR THE JUDGE AND STAFF SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE TOLD TO ALL OF YOU GUYS AN ENCUMBRANCE UPON WHAT UP IN THE RIGHT MOVE. I AM HERE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I AM CONCERNED BECAUSE AGAIN WE WERE BLINDSIDED. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR COMMITMENT BUT I WISH YOU WILL GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL INCLUDED IN THIS BECAUSE I KNOW THE NEWS ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS MADE A STATEMENT THAT IT WAS NOT JUST ABOUT TAKING AWAY THE JUDGE PRECINCT ONE PLACE TWO IT WAS ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES SO THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOUR PLAN IS SO WE WANT TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS YESTERDAY I SENT OUT AN EMAIL EVERYBODY WAS ABLE TO LOOK AT IT AND HAD A FEW QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS TO VOICE. FOR THE BENEFIT OF ATTENDEES THAT HAVE INTEREST I WOULD LIKE TO READ THE BODY OF THE EMAIL AND QUESTIONS I WAS JUST MADE AWARE OF DISCUSSIONS BY COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT TO DEMOLISH WEST JUSTICE OF THE PEACE AND HAVE CONCERNS SINCE I'M A RESIDENT OF PRECINCT 1 FOR THE DISCLOSURE AND THE DEMOCRATIC PRECINCT CHAIR . MY MAIN CONCERN IS THE REMOVAL OF JP 1-2 WILL ADVERSELY AFFECT RESIDENTS THAT ARE BEING SERVED BY THE JUDGE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND REMOVAL IS JUSTIFIED BECAUSE PRECINCT ONE HAS THREE AND THE OTHER PRECINCTS ONLY HAVE ONE OR TWO. I AM TROUBLED THERE SEEMS TO BE LITTLE OR NO EFFORT TO HAVE PUBLIC DISCUSSION WITH CONSTITUENTS TO EXPLAIN THE PLAN TO ABOLISH THE DECISION. WITH DATA TO JUSTIFY THE PLAN. THE QUESTION TO HAVE HER LISTED
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QUESTION ONE WHAT POPULATION SIZE HELP JUSTIFY THREE JPS IN COMPARISON TO OTHER PRECINCTS? IS THERE AN AVERAGE NUMBER OF CASES PER PRECINCT THAT WOULD HELP COURT DISTRICT 5 REMOVAL OF JP 1-2 OR REMOVAL OF JP FROM ANOTHER PRECINCT AND CONSOLIDATE PRECINCTS WITH LESS CASES. IS THERE DATA ON THE TYPICAL NUMBER AND TYPE OF CASES IN DIFFERENT PRECINCTS TO BE CONSIDERED? QUESTION FOUR IS THERE DATA PERTAINING TO THE CURRENT NUMBER OF OPEN AND PENDING CASES AND DIFFERENT PRECINCTS THAT WOULD HELP DETERMINE JPS NEEDS IN THE PRECINCTS . I AM ASKING HOW IS IT BENEFICIAL TO THE AREA TO HAVE ONE LESS JUDGE IF IT IS ABOUT BUDGETS THEY UNDERSTAND FOR SERVICES AND THINGS THEY CAN BRING IN REVENUE AND THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION. IF THEY BRING IN HALF THE SALARY AMOUNT OR FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN THEY BRINGIN MORE THAN THEIR SALARIES. >>
CORRECTLY. >> HI GOOD MORNING. I DID WANT TO ASK, AFTER HEARING SOME OF THIS I WANT TO ASK YOU WILL CONSIDER HOLDING OFF , MAYBE POSTPONE , DELAY OR WHATEVER. TO RECONSIDER LOOKING INTO IT MORE INTENSELY TO SEE WHAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR THE COUNTY NOT JUST AUTOMATICALLY ELIMINATING SOMEBODY OR THEIR POSITION. WE DO NEED THE THIRD COURT , IF ANYTHING RATHER THAN ELIMINATING WE MAY FIND WE NEED MORE JPS AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS APPARENTLY NOT EVEN CONSIDERED AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU GUYS TO PLEASE CONSIDER DOING A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH, SPEND TIME WITH YOUR JPS . ALL OF THE JPS THAT ARE AROUND. THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT, NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE WE MADE THE DECISION AND THIS IS IT IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO, THAT WOULD BE VERY DISAPPOINTING FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING COURT. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US THIS MORNING. I WANTED TO START OFF BY READING SOMETHING FROM TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD THAT HAS BEEN WIDELY CITED AS OUR COURTS CAN BE A GREAT EQUALIZER FOR THE EVERYDAY PERSON. IT READS, BUT THERE IS ONE WAY IN THIS COUNTRY IN WHICH ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, THAT INSTITUTION , GENTLEMAN IS A COURT, THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES OR THE HUMBLEST JP COURT IN THE LAND OUR COURTS ARE THE GREAT LEVERS AND OUR COURTS ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, SINCE THE STATE'S FOUNDING JP COURTS SERVE AS AN ACCESSIBLE COMMUNITY-BASED JUDICIAL OFFICE. ROOTED IN EARLY FRONTIER DAYS THE OFFICIALS WERE OFTEN THE FIRST AND ONLY POINT OF CONTACT . AND DEVELOPING AREAS. THERE HAS BEEN NO DISCUSSION AND NO TRANSPARENCY WHEN IT COMES TO THIS AND I THINK THAT'S THE ANGER THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL FOR PEOPLE THAT SPOKE BEFORE ME AND PEOPLE THAT COME AFTER ME. IT WAS NOT DATA DRIVEN PRESSURE BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO, +2 BECAME FOUR ON THIS ISSUE. LIKE THE QUOTE SAID, THESE COURTS ARE THE PEOPLE'S COURT'S. PEOPLE KNOW JUDGE SANTANA. WE WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HIS MANY YEARS OF SERVICE HE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB PEOPLE KNOW JUDGE LUCY RUBIO IN ROBSTOWN EVERYBODY KNOWS JUDGE
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BOBBY GONZALEZ. THERE NOT DISTRICT COURT JUDGES OR COUNTY COURT OF LAW JUDGES PEOPLE STILL CALL COMMISSIONER GONZALES JUDGE JACK BECAUSE HE LET THE INFANT ON THE COURTS, THIS IS THE PEOPLE'S COURT, IT IS A COURT WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A LAW DEGREE TO HELP THE COMMON PEOPLE AND IT IS THE COURT WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND FIND JUSTICE. SO ALL WE ARE ASKING IS YOU DO SOMETHING THAT IS DATA-DRIVEN NOT POLITICALLY DRIVEN , AT THIS POINT AND I WANT TO END BY ASKING HAVE YOU GUYS CONSIDERED WHAT THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS MIGHT BE IF YOU GUYS ACTUALLY PASS THIS IN A UNCONSTITUTIONAL MANNER AND IT GETS CHALLENGED IN THE COURTS BY THE SAME PEOPLE YOU GUYS ARE OFFENDING CAN COME BACK AND WIN IN ACTUAL COURT SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT AS WELL.THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, DOROTHY SPOHN.
>> I AM DOROTHY SPANN PRECINCT DEMOCRATIC PRECINCT CHAIR PRECINCT 58 AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE CHANGING CONDITIONS ET CETERA IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE NEED FOR CONTINUING TO HAVE FREE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE IN THE AREA. WE CAN FIGURE THERE ARE 180 CITIZENS IN OUR DISTRICT. ONE, TWO AND THREE. THAT IS 180,000. IF WE FIGURE AT 2024, POPULATION 340,000 PLUS 100 WE GET 50.84% OF THE POPULATION , IF WE FIGURE AT THE CURRENT 25 POPULATION OF 360,000, 180 IS EASY TO CONFIGURE AT 50% OF POPULATION SO YOU ARE ADDRESSING A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU. PRECINCT THE AREA ATMOSPHERE IS STABLE THE PUBLIC CITIZENS APPROVE OF THE PRESENT ARRANGEMENT AND A SIX-YEAR AVERAGE SHOWS OF THE 1542 CASES FILED 1486 WERE CLOSED, THAT'S 96% SO THEY ARE DOING THEIR JOB WELL. AND EARNING THEIR INCOME. AND REPEATING CONCERNS AND SHARES WITH YOU , I AM NERVOUS, LACK OF TRANSPARENCY , THE FAILURE TO PUBLICIZE THIS SERIOUS ISSUE, THE BAD EFFECT ON PERCENTAGE OF RESIDENTS WE EARNING LESS PER CAPITA CAN AFFORD A LAWSUIT WE CANNOT AFFORD TO HIRE A LAWYER WE OFTEN LIKE TRANSPORTATION. AND THERE HAS BEEN DATA LACKING TO A FAIRLY EVALUATE AND MAKE A DECISION I PLEAD WITH YOU ON THAT PLEASE LEAVE THE REMAINING OVERLOADED THAT WOULD LEAVE THE REMAINING OVERLOADED AND CREATE AN ATMOSPHERE DESIGNED TO LOWER SUCCESS FROM 96% BUT I WANT TO LIST THE REAL REASONS TO KEEP YOUR SUCCESSFUL INVENTION OF THREE JUDGES TO SERVE PRECINCT PRECINCT 2. HERE ARE SOME REASONS TO DO THAT. WE SERVE 50% OF THE POPULATION , WE HAVE 96% SUCCESS RATE, VOTING PUBLIC APPROVES, ENCOURAGED TO EMBRACE THE UNEVEN THREE , THE DIFFERENT FORMULA ALLOWS US TO LIVE IN AN AREA SERVING THOSE OF US OFTEN FEELING GREATER NEED AND GREATER STRESS, PLEASE CONSIDER OUR COMPLEMENT TO YOUR SUCCESS ALLOWING ALL OF US TO ENJOY YOUR SUCCESS ALSO . REMEMBER 50% , THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU MEM. >> CHRISTINE GALLAS.
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>> I LIVE IN CORPUS CHRISTI PRECINCT NUMBER ONE, I FOUND OUT ABOUT THE CLOSURE OF A DISCUSSION OF CLOSURE FOR JP PRECINCT 1 PLACE TWO COURT ON FRIDAY ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER 3. THE HURRIED NATURE OF THE CHANGE CAUSED ME CONCERN , THIS WOULD BE REDUCTION OF VITAL SERVICES FOR ABOUT 180,000 RESIDENTS OF NUECES COUNTY, THE REASON FOR THIS PROPOSAL IS VERY UNCLEAR TO ME REDUCTION OF SERVICES REQUIRES CAREFUL STUDY AND RECENT POLICY DECISIONS BASED ON THOROUGH STUDY OF COUNTY REQUIREMENTS. I'M NOT SURE SUCH STUDIES HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED I AM SUGGESTING INCREASED TRANSPARENCY IN THE PROCESS AND I THINK A STUDY POPULATION NEEDS OF THE ENTIRE COUNTY SHOULD BE CONDUCTED BEFORE ANY POLICY DECISIONS ARE MADE BY THIS BODY AND REQUESTING RESULTS OF SUCH A STUDY BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IN THAT AT LEAST TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS BE HELD SO ALL JUSTIFICATION OF DECISIONS CAN BE ANSWERED FOR ME AND MY FELLOW
SEEING . >> I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE PATH OF STUDENTS AND YOUNG PEOPLE, ATTITUDE AND BEHAVIOR TOWARD THE SITUATION IS UNPRECEDENTED FOR FUTURE SO WE WOULD REMIND YOU TO KEEP US IN MIND WHEN YOU MAKE A DECISION , CORPUS CHRISTI IS A GROWING CITY, I LOVE THE CITY, A LOT OF US HAVE LIVED HERE MOST OF OUR LIFE. PLEASE LOOK AT THE DATA, THIS IS TOO FAST AND TOO SOON AND WE NEED TRANSPARENCY ON THE
NAME ] >> HI MY NAME IS JACKIE HERRERA I REPRESENT A LOCAL ELEVATOR COMPANY HERE IN CORPUS CHRISTI.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE CONDITIONAL SELECTION.
>> SORRY. I WILL MOVE YOU TO THE OTHER AGENDA BUT THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE JP COURTS. I WILL PUT YOUR NAME ON THE AGENDA. AND YOU SIGNED UP ON THAT ONE SO WE ARE GOOD.
] >> GOOD MORNING I WANT TO SPEAK THIS MORNING ABOUT PRECINCT 1 PLACE TWO AND I OWE POSE ELIMINATING THIS POSITION AT THIS TIME FOR SEVERAL REASONS. I WONDER WHY ALMOST NO NOTICE WAS GIVEN TO US AND WHAT IS THE RUSH ON GETTING THIS DONE WITHOUT PUBLIC INPUT? I WONDER IF THE COVERAGE OF STUDY WAS DONE. HOW CAN YOU DECIDE TO ELIMINATE THE JUDICIAL POSITION WITHOUT A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY? WE NEED TO SEE THE DATA. NUECES COUNTY HAS EXPERIENCED SIGNIFICANT POPULATION GROWTH OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS AND I WOULD THINK THIS WOULD WARRANT MORE JUDGES, NOT LESS AND MUCH OF THE GROWTH HAS BEEN WITHIN PRECINCT 1 AREA. ACCESS TO JUSTICE SHOULD NOT DEPEND ON WHERE A PERSON LIVES OR HOW MUCH MONEY THEY MAKE AND ELIMINATING PLACE TWO WILL CREATE A BURDEN FOR EVERYBODY IN THE AREA. ALSO IT WAS A COMPARATIVE STUDY DONE WE DESERVE TO KNOW HOW AND WHY YOU DECIDED ON PRECINCT 1 PLACE TWO.
FINALLY, I WONDER WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO MAKE SUCH A SIGNIFICANT DECISION WITHOUT HOLDING PUBLIC HEARINGS. THANK YOU.
>> COMMISSIONER . MY NAME IS OF YOU ABOUT MY OPPOSITION TO THE COURT ABOLISHING JP PRECINCT
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1 PLACE TWO POSTING A NOTICE LESS THAN ONE WEEK BEFORE TAKING ACTION PREVENTS THE PUBLIC FROM RESPONDING ADEQUATELY. THIS WAS A RUSHED JOB, SO RUSHED THAT IT UNDERMINES TRUST AND ACCOUNTABILITY. THUS LEAVING MUCH TO BE DESIRED ABOUT THIS COURT'S TRANSPARENCY. I WAS HERE EARLIER THIS WEEK AND I SPOKE, TO THREE OF YOU ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH ME THAT THIS AGENDA ITEM WAS TOO RUSHED WITH MINIMAL DATA TO MAKE AN INFORMATIVE DECISION TODAY LET ALONE TAKE THE AGENDA ITEM FOR VOTE TODAY. HAVING SAID THAT WITH NOT MAKING MENTION OF WHO I SPOKE TO, YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE, I AM HERE TO SEE IF YOUR HONESTY AND OPENNESS, YOUR CANDOR AND IF YOUR WORD STANDS TRUE TODAY AS IT DID A COUPLE DAYS AGO I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT EACH ONE OF YOU, NOR YOUR CHARACTER, BUT AS FOR ME, MY WORD IS MY BOND. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE WHO HAPHAZARDLY PLANNED AND RUSHED THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR TODAY WITHOUT GIVING CONSIDERATION .TO THOSE OF YOU ON THIS COURT TO STAND TO LOSE THE MOST BY MOVING FORWARD IN FAVOR OF THIS AGENDA ITEM TODAY I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND ME IS THAT IF I WERE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, A COUNTY COMMISSIONER FOR THAT MATTER I WOULD BE LESS SELF-SERVING AND MORE OF A TRUE PUBLIC SERVANT. I PRAY THAT YOU DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND JUST FOR NUECES COUNTY, NOT JUST FOR A FEW, BUT FOR ALL. I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO
COME BEFORE YOUR. >> THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING. JUDGE SCOTT AND COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS ] AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT ELIMINATION OF JP 1-2.
COMMISSIONERS COURT SHOULD NOT , EXCUSE ME. SHOULD NOT ELIMINATE AN ELECTED POSITION WITHOUT PROCESS WHICH SHOULD INCLUDE ENOUGH PRIOR NOTICE FOR THE PUBLIC TO RESPOND. CITIZENS OF NUECES COUNTY HAVE MORE DATA PRESENTED, NEED MORE DATA PRESENTED IN ORDER TO RESPOND IN A TIMELY MANNER. MORE TRANSPARENCY REQUIRES REASONABLE NOTICE AND OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT , ESPECIALLY WHEN CONSTITUTIONAL , I'M SORRY.
THESE , THIS COULD BE SERVING THOUSANDS THAT ARE AT STAKE. SO I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAD, WE HAD NOT ENOUGH TIME TO RESPOND. MY SECOND POINT IS , THE, THE NEED OF JP COURTS SHOULD NOT BE ELIMINATED, THEY SHOULD BE EXPANDED, DUE TO THE MORE POPULATION IN THE COUNTY. THERE ARE MANY MORE AREAS THAT SHOULD BE ADDED , INSTEAD OF ELIMINATED. UNLESS OF COURSE THERE WAS ONE REASON WHY THIS ONE OFFICE WAS WANTING TO BE ELIMINATED, DUE TO THE REASON THAT I FEEL THAT SPECIFIC ROOM WAS WANTED FOR ANOTHER REASON. AND ALSO, MY LAST POINT IS , SORRY. THE PART ABOUT SOME JP OFFICES ARE BUSIER THAN OTHERS,
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PART OF THAT REASON IS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT WILL HEAR COURT HEARINGS IN THOSE JP OFFICES ARE JUDGE SHOPPING, CORD SHOPPING AND THAT SHOULD NOT BE THE RIGHT WAY TO DO THIS. THANK YOU FORYOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. THAT ENDS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE WHO SIGNED UP, BUT I HAVE FORMER JUDGE CANALIS ONLINE. SHE HAS ASKED TO SPEAK , SHE COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY SO I AM GOING TO ALLOW IT AND THEN ONE OTHER PERSON WAS ONLINE THAT WISHED TO SPEAK SO I WILL ALLOW HER TO SPEAK AS WELL, POLICY STATES YOU MUST BE PRESENT TO SPEAK , BUT WE WILL ALLOW THOSE , JUDGE CANALIS IF YOU'RE READY, PLEASE UNMUTE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH , THIS MORNING, FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND VISIT WITH YOU REGARDING THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND I AM GETTING ALL THE FEEDBACK, I WILL TRY TO DO MY BEST, LISTENING TO MYSELF. REALLY WANTED TO ADDRESS THE CONCEPT OF THE COUNTY AND A COMMENT MADE IN THE NEWSPAPER FOR HOW EXTRAORDINARY IT WAS THAT BARE COUNTY ONLY HAS , AND HERE WE ARE IN NUECES COUNTY WITH NINE. SO I WANTED TO LOOK AT A DEEP DIVE AND REALLY EXPLAIN THAT THERE IS NO COMPARISON AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE POINTS AS YOU MAKE, TO BEGIN, THE POPULATION DENSITY AFFECT IS HEAVILY CONCENTRATED IN SAN ANTONIO AND IT PALES IN COMPARISON TO OUR URBAN AND RURAL AREAS HERE IN CORPUS CHRISTI WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE JP COURTS IN BISHOP, ROBSTOWN, AND THEN PORT ARANSAS. THE BARE COUNTY COURTS HANDLE AN EXTREMELY HIGH VOLUME , THEY HAVE THE ACTUAL BUDGET OF OVER $7 MILLION. EACH COURT HAS ALMOST 20 EMPLOYEES. IT IS VASTLY DIFFERENT IN STRUCTURE, DEFINED DOCKET, RESOURCES, IN TECHNOLOGY AND ALMOST EVERY OTHER WAY. NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO TODAY I THINK IT IS CRITICAL THAT YOU USE THE RIGHT DATA TO MAKE DECISIONS AND YOU HAVE ALREADY HEARD FROM MANY CONCERNED PUBLIC CITIZENS THAT YOU HAVE SOME DATA THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU, BUT EACH AND EVERY TIME, THAT THE DATA SHOWS WHY WE SHOULD NOT ELIMINATE THIS JP COURT FOR ITS DISPOSAL RATE OF 96% ITS ANNUAL COLLECTIONS AVERAGING $239,000 OVER SIX YEARS AND JUST THE FACT THAT THE BUDGET THAT YOU JUST PASSED OFFERS A DELTA OF ONLY $100,000 IF YOU ELIMINATE THIS COURT SO THERE IS NO GREAT SAVINGS AND IN FACT EQUITY DEMANDS AS THE CONSTITUTION DEMANDS IT IS NOT OPTIONAL TO HAVE ACCESS TO OUR COURTS. AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS COURT HAS DEMONSTRATED OVER AND OVER THAT YOU, TOO BELIEVE IN TRANSPARENCY AND REASONABLE NOTICE PARTICULARLY CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICES ARE AT STAKE. SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO VOTE NO ON THE ELIMINATION AND IN DEFERRING TO A FORMAL STUDY WITH MULTIPLE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND DATA PRESENTATION, THIS IS THE MINIMUM STANDARD OF GOOD GOVERNANCE BEFORE YOU ALTER ANY COURT STRUCTURE. IS TERRIBLE FEEDBACK I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND EMAIL YOU SOME OF THE OUTLINE THAT I PREPARED ON THE CONTRAST BETWEEN BARE COUNTY AND
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OASIS COUNTY. YOU SHOULD KNOW IT IS APPLES AND ORANGES.>> THANK YOU, WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. TINA BUTLER YOU HAVE
YOUR HAND UP? >> YES MA'AM, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY. GOOD MORNING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, COMMISSIONERS AND MEMBERS OF COMMUNITY. MY NAME IS TINA BUTLER I AM HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY TO EMPHASIZE THE ESSENTIAL REASONS WHY WE MUST RETAIN THE JP COURT PRECINCT ONE PLACE TWO IN NUECES COUNTY, THIS COURT IS NOT JUST AN INSTITUTION , IT IS A LIFELINE FOR RESIDENTS ENSURING JUSTICE IS ACCESSIBLE, FAIR AND TIMELY FOR ALL. LED US RECOGNIZE THE VITAL ROLE THIS PLACE IN LOCAL JUDICIAL SYSTEM, JP COURT SERVES AS A CONVENIENT AND ACCESSIBLE VENUE FOR RESOLVING DISPUTES, HANDLING LEGAL MATTERS AND MAINTAINING ORDER IN THE COMMUNITY.
ABOLISHING THIS COURT WOULD DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT THOSE WITH LIMITED TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY ISSUES. IF YOU FORCE MANY RESIDENTS TO TRAVEL FURTHER, OFTEN WITH FEWER RESOURCES MAKING IT HARDER FOR THEM TO PARTICIPATE FULLY AND EQUALLY IN JUSTICE SYSTEM THE ELIMINATION OF THIS COURT COULD MEAN LONGER WAIT TIMES FOR HEARINGS AND DECISIONS. LOCAL COURTS ARE ALREADY STRETCHED THIN WITH BACKLOGS THAT DELAY JUSTICE FOR MONTHS ON END. THE JP COURT HELPS ALLEVIATE THIS PRESSURE ENTERING CASES ARE HEARD PROMPTLY AND EFFICIENTLY.
IF WE LOSE THIS COURT WE RISK OVERWHELMING OUR DISTRICT COURTS EVEN MORE. LEADING TO REPEATED RECESS AND EXTENDED DELAYS THAT HURT EVERYONE INVOLVED. THERE ARE ALSO BROAD CONSEQUENCES TO CONSIDER. ABOLISHING THIS COURT COULD UNDERMINE ACCESS TO JUSTICE AND EQUAL REPRESENTATION ESPECIALLY FOR MINORITY VOTERS AND COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST, THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION REQUIRES COUNTIES TO MAINTAIN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF JUSTICES OF THE PEACE BASED OFF A POPULATION, PRECINCT 1 PLACE TWO WAS ESTABLISHED IN RESPONSE TO CORPUS CHRISTI GOALS PRIOR TO 1995 IN 1995 OUR POPULATION WAS 276,000 , TO DATE IT IS 353,000. WITH THIS GROWTH THE NEED FOR ACCESSIBLE CORDS IS GREATER THAN EVER SO WHY THE NEED FOR ABOLISHMENT? IS THIS MOVE POLITICALLY MOTIVATED IN AN EFFORT TO REMOVE A DEMOCRATIC SITTING JUDGE OR SHIFT REPRESENTATION BEFORE UPCOMING ELECTIONS? WE MUST BE VIGILANT AGAINST SUCH MEASURES AND ENSURE DECISIONS ABOUT COURTS ARE MADE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF JUSTICE, NOT POLITICS THE LAW IS CLEAR, REDISTRICTING MUST OCCUR IN ORDER TO DECREASE THE NUMBER OF JUSTICES AND MUST COMPLY WITH STATE AND LOCAL FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT AND PRINCIPLE OF ONE PERSON ONE VOTE, IF THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE VIOLATED SUCH CHANGES CAN BE CHALLENGED IN COURT. I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON ABOLISHING THE JP COURT PRECINCT 1 PLACE TWO LET US PROTECT ACCESS TO JUSTICE OF EQUAL REPRESENTATION FOR MINORITY VOTERS AND ENSURE THAT OUR COURTS CONTINUE TO SERVE THE NEEDS OF ALL RESIDENTS IN CORPUS CHRISTI AND NUECES COUNTY. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. A REMINDER FOR EVERYONE OUR COMMISSIONERS COURT POLICY SAYS YOU MUST BE PRESENT TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT , BECAUSE WE HAD A FORMER JUDGE ON THERE AND MISS BUTLER WAS SIGNED UP AT THE RIGHT TIME WHEN SHE WAS ONLINE FOR THE BEGINNING I ALLOWED HER TO SPEAK SO WE FOLLOW THE RULES, THERE WAS A MEDICAL REASON WHY THE FORMER JUDGE CANNOT BE HERE AND I FELT LIKE HER COMMENT WAS NECESSARY.
SO WE WON'T MAKE A HABIT OF IT IN OTHER WORDS. THAT BEING ALL THE COMMENTS WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. IT IS 9:48 WE HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM ON HERE . I WAS GOING TO PULL UP AND ADDRESS BUT I HAVE HAD ANOTHER COMMISSIONER ASKED ME THAT WE MAY POTENTIALLY WANT TO TAKE IT INTO EXECUTIVE SO WE WILL NOT PULL IT UP AND WE WILL ADDRESS IT WHEN WE GET TO THE AGENDA FOR
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THOSE OF YOU SITTING AROUND WAITING.>> WE ARE IN OPEN COURT. >> I WAS GOING TO PULL IT UP EARLY. WHOEVER WANTS TO MAKE THE MOTION .
>> I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO EXECUTIVE.
>> QUESTIONS FOR THE ATTORNEY. >> MOTION TO TABLE THE WHOLE THING UNTIL WE COME BACK? HOW WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HANDLE THIS.
>> YOU DON'T WANT US TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND ASK
QUESTIONS RAISED BY THE PUBLIC? >> YOU ARE TABLING SO WE CAN'T ASK ANYTHING. I DO HAVE A QUESTION I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THE TIMING ON THIS. CANNOT SUPPORT THAT.
>> WE DID NOT THINK ABOUT THIS. RUSHING FROM LAST WEEK TO THIS
WEEK. >> THE MOTION WAS TO TABLE A MOTION AND SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? 3-2. NOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO TABLE .
>> I HAVE SOME LEGAL QUESTIONS. THERE BEEN GOOD POINTS MADE
>> I WILL PUT IT FOR EXECUTIVE SECTION SESSION. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE. FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE IF YOU'RE WAITING FOR YOU HAVE SOMEWHERE TO BE WE WILL BRING THE ITEM TO EXECUTIVE, USUALLY AROUND 12:00 SO IT MIGHT BE 1:00 OR 1:30 BEFORE WE COME OUT WITH INFORMATION. FOR THOSE OF YOU
[F. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]
SITTING. MOVING ON REGULAR PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE SIGNED UP.>> I WOULD LIKE TO CLEAR OUT A LITTLE BIT BEFORE WE LET SOMEONE SPEAK.
>> WE ARE STILL DOING A MEETING, IF WE CAN GET THE ROOM CLEARED, CONVERSATIONS OUT IN THE HALL , PLEASE. OKAY, FIRST , I THINK CHRISTINE GALLAS, SHE COMMENTED MAYBE SHE SIGNED UP TWICE. OKAY.
JOSEPH RAMIREZ, HE DID ALSO. DOROTHY SPANN DID, RICARDO , HELIO DID, JACKIE HERRERA. SHE WAS HERE, SHE WALKED OUTSIDE, YOU WANT TO WALK OUTSIDE? I THINK SHE MISUNDERSTOOD, DOES SOMEONE WANT TO STEP OUTSIDE AND SEE JACKIE HERRERA, SHE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT KNOW WE ARE AT THAT POINT SO I WOULD HATE TO PASS THAT UP IF SHE STAYED .
>> JACKIE IS INDISPOSED FOR A FEW MINUTES.
>> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. I AM HERE TO , AS USUAL TO TALK ABOUT THE AMMONIA PLANT. PROPOSED AMMONIA PLANT, WE WERE RECENTLY GRANTED THE CONTESTED CASE HEARING AND WE WERE VERY EXCITED FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. WE UNDERSTAND IT IS NOT
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COMMON WE WILL CONTINUE A FIGHT AGAINST THIS , I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT WITHOUT BEING OVERLY DRAMATIC, THIS THING WE DO NOT WANT BETWEEN OUR COMMUNITIES. I PERSONALLY HAVE A BREAK IN MY LIFELINE, THERE WAS A TIME BEFORE THE AMMONIA PLANT WHERE I WAS HAPPY-GO-LUCKY AND FELT I HAD A NAÏVE TRUST THAT EVERYTHING AROUND ME WAS WORKING THE WAY THAT IT SHOULD AND THEN THERE IS AFTER THAT WHERE I HAVE LEARNED THAT A LOT OF THINGS TAKE PLACE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WHERE THERE ARE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST , THERE ARE THINGS HAPPENING THAT BENEFIT SOME BUT THEY DO NOT BENEFIT MOST OR MANY CONSTITUENTS ARE MEMBERS OF COMMUNITY. I FEEL LIKE THIS, WHAT WAS HEARD ABOUT ABOLISHMENT OF THE JUSTICE OF PEACE OFFICE PLAYS INTO THAT. SOMETHING JUST POPS UP ON THE AGENDA AND BOOM, IT SEEMS TO ME AND I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS BOARD, IN GENERAL, TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITIES, IT SEEMS LIKE THINGS WANT TO BE PUSHED THROUGH FASTER WITH LESS COMMUNITY OPINION WHEN IT SHOULD BE THE OPPOSITE. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK BRIEFLY, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND YET BUT ITEM F ABOUT MONIES GIVEN TO THE ROBSTOWN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. THEY COME ALONG WITH CORPUS CHRISTI ECONOMIC REGIONAL ECONOMIC COMMITTEE DEVELOPMENT BOARD , THE UNHOLY TRINITY THAT BROUGHT THIS AMMONIA PLANT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, ONCE AGAIN MANY PEOPLE INTO A BIG PARTY, MANY PEOPLE KNEW IT WAS COMING WHETHER THEY UNDERSTOOD ALL THE IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE THE OR THE AMOUNT OF AMMONIA STORED ON-SITE I CANNOT SAY, BUT AS CITIZENS I AM PERSONALLY TIRED OF LEARNING OF THINGS TOO LATE TO DO ANYTHING. I WANT TRANSPARENCY, I'M TIRED OF NDA'S IMPROPERLY USED, WE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE MEANT TO PROTECT, NOT ELECTED OFFICIALS OR UNELECTED OFFICIALS SUCH AS THE PORT AND REGIONAL ECONOMIC, NOT MEANT TO PROTECT THEM AGAINST PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR EYE ON THIS. WE WANT TRANSPARENCY AND WE WANT A VOICE IN OUR GOVERNMENT, THANK YOU.>> THANK YOU, JACKIE HERRERA? >> JUDGE , A .2 UNDERSTAND THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE ELEVATOR. WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT EVALUATION PROCESS AND THE COURT IS MAKING A DECISION. PURCHASING DEPARTMENT , THE PURCHASING IS THE SOLE POINT OF COMMUNICATION FOR QUESTIONS FROM VENDORS THAT ARISE DURING THE EVALUATION ALL QUESTIONS AND REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION SHOULD REFER TO THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, THERE SHOULD NOT BE DISCUSSION BETWEEN EVALUATION COMMITTEE MEMBERS, MEMBERS OF COURT AND VENDORS A PROPOSALS CONTENTS RECEIVED DURING EVALUATION AND AWARD PROCESS, PROPRIETARY TRADEMARK MAY REMAIN CONFIDENTIAL PURSUANT TO TEXAS PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT TO BE RELEASED AFTER ATTORNEY GENERAL OFFICE AUTHORIZES ITS RELEASE . I WANTED TO GIVE THE
VENDOR. >> YOU ARE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT CAN YOU ABIDE BY THE RULES AND MAKE YOUR COMMENT?
THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS JACKIE HERRERA AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THREE C1 SELECTION OF ELEVATOR WRITTEN THAT SHOWS THERE'S ONLY TWO VENDORS , TWO PROPOSALS THAT WERE RECEIVED. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE COURT REOPEN RFP BEFORE MAKING ANY AWARD SINCE THEY WERE ONLY TWO PROPOSALS THAT WERE RECEIVED ON THE SEPTEMBER 23 OPENING WITH SUCH LIMITED COMPETITION CHANCES OF SECURING THE BEST VALUE FOR NUECES COUNTY TAXPAYERS ARE SLIM. SORRY I WAS RUNNING TO GET OVER HERE. REOPENING WOULD PROVIDE MORE CONTRACTORS TO BID POTENTIALLY BRINGING THREE OR MORE OPTIONS TO THE TABLE. THIS PARTICIPATION COULD LEAD TO MORE COMPETITIVE PRICING, INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS AND BETTER ALIGNMENT WITH THE COUNTY BUDGET NEEDS.
WHILE SUPPORTING LOCAL BUSINESS INVESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY UNDER LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 262030 THE GOAL IS FAIR AND EFFECTIVE
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PROCUREMENT. LET'S ENSURE WE ACHIEVE THAT, BY ALLOWING BROADER INPUT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I REQUEST ONLY FOR THE RFP 331825, TO BERESPECTFULLY REOPEN. THANK YOU. >> THERE ARE NO OTHERS THAT
[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]
SIGNED UP FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT. THEN, MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ANY ITEMS TO ANY COMMISSIONER WISHES TO PULL FORFURTHER DISCUSSION? >> JUDGE I MAKE A MOTION.
>> WAIT WAIT WAIT. I'VE GOT TWO ITEMS D AND F.
>> I WAS GOING TO PULL THAT, TOO.
>> YES, F. >> I PULLED THAT ALREADY
>> D AND F ? >> JUDGE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PASS CONSENT AGENDA EXCEPT FOR ITEMS D AND F .
>> I WILL SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION
[D. Authorize payment of bills - Special Motions List - American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) dated October 08, 2025.]
PASSES. NINE ITEMS ON THAT IN MY NOTES I WAS SUPPOSED TO PULL ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE PAYMENT WAS PAID EARLY WANTED TO NOTE SO WE WERE NOT DUPLICATING PAYMENT. MOTION TO PASS ITEM D. IS IN LINE ITEM 2? MESSED UP LAST TIME AND DELETED SOMEBODY ELSE'S.DOES ANYBODY HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF THEM? NUMBER TWO YES THAT'S
CORRECT. >> JUDGE I BELIEVE WE NEED TO
IMPROVE. >> I HAVE ALREADY. WE DID EARLY
RELEASE PAYMENT. >> RIGHT, BUT WE ARE NOT DELETING. WE ARE MAKING NOTE IT WAS PAID EARLY RELEASE BUT THE COURT NEEDS TO APPROVE THE PAYMENT.
>> RATIFYING THE PAYMENT. SO MY MOTION IS TO PASS ITEM D. MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION
[F. Authorize Fiscal Year 2024-2025 Economic Development Contract for $10,000 with Robstown Area Development Commission (RADC).]
PASSES, ITEM F THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION. YOU HAD A QUESTION YOU WANTED TO CLARIFY YOU WANT TO BEGIN COMMISSIONER MAREZ? I HAVE THE 1295 NOTICE HOW THEY TURNED IT IN?>> YES, RECEIVED. >> THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION.
>> I THINK MISS GALLAGHER LEFT, I KNOW SHE BROUGHT IT UP DURING PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS FUNDING WE HAVE GIVEN YEAR AFTER YEAR FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOCUSED ON NUECES COUNTY WE KNOW THERE IS GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. I CANNOT SPEAK TO EVERY PROJECT THEY WORKED ON TO ATTRACT TO BRING TO THE COMMUNITY AND DEFINITELY NOT THE ARE A D.C. AND THE CCR AS WELL THOSE ARE CHARGED WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE ENTIRE AREA AND WE FUND THOSE AS A COUNTY SO THIS IS ONE THAT WOULD'VE BEEN ON THE LIST, BECAUSE OF DELAYED PAPERWORK IT IS UNDER FISCAL YEAR THAT JUST ENDED SO WE ARE TAKING ACTION THIS YEAR. THIS IS FOR THEM TO FOCUS ON THE OTHER GOOD WORK THEY ARE DOING. I CAN'T ATTEST ALL THE HAVE DONE OR NDA'S THAT THEY HAVE WITH ANY OTHER GROUPS, BUT THAT IS WHY I HAVE ALLOCATED THE FUNDING AND WHY WE PUT THEM ON THE LIST WITH THE OTHER DIFFERENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY TO RECEIVE THE BASELINE WHICH IS 10,000 OR 7500 IS THAT CORRECT?
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>> 10,000 FOR LAST YEAR. >> SOME GROUPS GOT 7500.
>> THAT WAS USING CAPITAL CREDIT FUNDS.
>> FOR CLARIFICATION THIS IS NOT ANYTHING DIFFERENT OR NEW AND UNDERSTAND, WE HEAR YOU WITH OTHER CONCERNS BUT THIS IS MORE TYPICAL ANNUAL WORK THAT WE DO AND THERE WERE STRUGGLES THEY HAD GETTING THE AUDITS DONE FOR PRIOR AND WE GOT THAT TAKEN CARE OF. THAT'S WHY IT IS HERE BEFORE.
BECAUSE OF ONE PARTICULAR PROJECT. SO THINK YOU MOTION TO
APPROVE >> I WILL SECOND THE MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
>> I HAVE ONE COMMENT. NOT SURE I UNDERSTOOD MRS. GALLAGHER'S COMMENT. I TAKE EXCEPTION TO THE FACT THAT SHE SEEMED TO BE ACCUSING THE COURT OF DOING SOMETHING BEHIND THE SCENES TO SUPPORT THE PLANT, THE AMMONIA PLANT AND I WANT TO SAY FOR THE RECORD I HAVE NOT EVER HEARD FROM ANYBODY OTHER THAN I READ THE ANNOUNCEMENT IN THE PAPER OR ONLINE ABOUT ALLOWING CONTESTED HEARING WHICH IS A BIG DEAL, BUT I TAKE EXCEPTION WITH BEING ACCUSED OF DOING SOMETHING BEHIND THE SCENES WITH RESPECT TO THE AMMONIA PLANT. I HAVE NOT TALKED WITH ANYBODY, NOBODY HAS COME TO UPDATE ME ON THE PROJECT. I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE IT SAT.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON TO THE REGULAR
[1. Discuss and consider accepting and adopting Minutes for Meetings held on September 10th & September 24th.]
AGENDA ITEM 3 A1 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING AND ADOPTING MINUTES FOR MEETINGS HELD SEPTEMBER 10 AND SEPTEMBER 24.ANY CORRECTIONS OR ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE ON THE MINUTES? IF NOT I MAKE A MOTION TO PASS MINUTES FOR THE SEPTEMBER 10 AND SEPTEMBER 24 MEETINGS. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. THE MINUTES FOR THE MEETING ON THE 10TH THE 24TH ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, THANK YOU. TAKING ITEM NUMBER
[3. Receive quarterly report from Interim Director of Public Health, Dr. Dante Gonzalez, for City-Operated Corpus Christi-Nueces County Public Health District.]
TWO INTO EXECUTIVE SO I DON'T NUMBER THREE RECEIVE QUARTERLY REPORT FROM THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC HEALTH MR. DANTE GONZALEZ I CAN SEE YOU FOR THE CITY COUNTY OPERATING NUECESCOUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH DISTRICT. >> I DO HAVE A LITTLE HAND OUT.
GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS COURT, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO PRESENT TO YOU TO SHOWCASE THE WORK WE DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT AS PUBLIC-HEALTH KEEPERS, SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN WITH THE HEALTH DISTRICT ALMOST A DECADE HAVE SEEN A TREMENDOUS STEADY PROGRESS WE HAVE MADE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND NUECES COUNTY, FOR OVERALL HEALTH AND WELLNESS. AS YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD THE CITY FOUND A CANDIDATE TO TAKE OVER THE DIRECTOR POSITION AND IT WAS TRULY AN HONOR FOR ME TO REPRESENT THE DISTRICT THE PAST 10 MONTHS. THESE ARE PROBABLY THE WORST 10 MONTHS I COULD HAVE BEEN INTERIM IN ESPECIALLY SINCE WE SAW A LOT OF CUTS, GRANTS REDUCTIONS, WE SELF FUNDING PULLED AND PROGRAMS BEING CUT AND SOME CUTS WERE PRETTY DEEP BUT I'M HAPPY TO SAY I DO HAVE A GREAT TEAM AND THERE'S A GREAT TEAM OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. THEY ARE STRONG AND RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANT WORK WE DO AND WE WERE PREPARED, SOMETHING COVID TAUGHT US WAS HOW TO REACT TO CRISIS AND I THINK WE HAVE FARED PRETTY WELL COMPARED TO OTHER HEALTH DEPARTMENTS YOU HAVE HEARD OVER 20, 40, 60 POSITIONS CUT AND THROUGH THIS WE ONLY LOST ONE POSITION. AS WE PATIENTLY WAIT FOR THE NEW DIRECTOR WE ARE EAGER TO LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEW LEADERSHIP TO CONTINUE MAKING STRIDES. ON THE PERSONAL SIDE I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN TOGETHER AS A PARTNER FOR A WHILE AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED CONFIDENCE AND FOR ENTRUSTING US WITH THE TASK EVERY DAY OF WHAT IT TAKES TO WORK TOWARD A BETTER
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FUTURE TO EVERY DAY WE MAKE IT BETTER THAN YESTERDAY. SO, THIS PRESENTATION I WILL GIVE TO YOU IS FIRST, THE FIRST OF MANY PRESENTATIONS WE WILL COME GIVE HERE AT THE COURT SO THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE SHORT BUT IT IS HIGHLY IMPACTFUL AND I'M HOPING FUTURE PRESENTATIONS WILL CONTINUE ADDING MORE ACHIEVEMENTS AND STEADILY INCREASING PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE DELIVERY. I WANT TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO HIGHLIGHT THREE THINGS AND I KNOW I WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF YOUR TIME BUT I'M PROUD TO SAY THIS PAST YEAR DURING THE FIRST THREE QUARTERS WE DID PUT TOGETHER THE VERY FIRST PUBLIC-HEALTH SUMMIT AND IT WAS TITLED THE ART OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND HERE WE HELD IT AT TEXAS A&M CORPUS CHRISTI WITH 100 PARTNERS COMMUNITY PARTNERS FROM ALL OVER SOUTH TEXAS TO COME TO HEAR ABOUT THE THINGS WE ARE DOING AND HOW OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS ARE TACKLING CRITICAL AND CHRONIC DISEASES AND ISSUES THAT PLAGUE OUR COMMUNITY. WE ALSO BROUGHT PROGRAMMATIC PILOTS FOCUSING ON CHRONIC DISEASE MITIGATION SUCH AS WELLNESS WEDNESDAY. WE INVITE THE COMMUNITY TO COME TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND WE PROVIDE NUTRITION, EXERCISE AND WELLNESS CLASSES. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CLASSES WE ARE AT CAPACITY AND WE LOOK FOR WAYS TO CONTINUE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND BRING OTHER TYPES OF SERVICES AND PERHAPS MONDAY OR TUESDAY OR THURSDAY WE KNOW THE COMMUNITY WILL NEED IT. THE DEPARTMENT OF SERVICES UNIT AT THE STATE LEVEL RECOGNIZES RECENTLY RECOGNIZED TUBERCULOSIS PROGRAM FOR PROVIDING FEEDBACK CONTRIBUTING TO SIGNIFICANT EDITS TO THE 26 FISCAL YEAR MANUAL. THIS IS THE GUIDING DOCUMENT FOR ALL STATE-FUNDED TUBERCULOSIS PROGRAMS ACROSS TEXAS WHICH MEANS THE STATE TAKES OUR WORD LOCALLY HIGHLY AND OUR WORD HAS VALUE. IT IS AN HONOR WE USE TO OPERATE AND THE STATE NEVER REFERRED BACK TO US NOW THE STATE IS ASKING US TO GUIDE SOME LOCAL PARTNERS, THE ENVIRONMENTAL TEAM SOME COUNTIES AND CITIES SURROUNDING US HAVE REFRESH THEIR TEAM TO DO INSPECTIONS, WHEN THEY ASKED THE STATE TO PROVIDE FUNDING THEY ACTUALLY ASKED THEM TO REACH OUT TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT OF CORPUS CHRISTI BECAUSE WE DO SUCH A GREAT JOB IN THAT FIELD.SORRY, WE ARE BACK. >> I'M REALLY HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO SHOWCASE SOME OF THOSE THINGS. EARLIER AND FINALLY THIS YEAR I SAT DOWN WITH THE JUDGE AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT I PERSONALLY WANTED TO ENSURE WE WERE PUTTING AS PART OF WHAT WE DO IN PUBLIC HEALTH AND IT MADE A PROMISE.
WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS MAKE SURE WE HAD DOCUMENTED PROOF AND WE HAD THE ABILITY TO SHOWCASE WE TRULY DO HAVE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WILL LAST A REALLY LONG TIME. I TOLD HER I WANTED TO CREATE MOU'S WITH A LOT OF ENTITIES AROUND THE CITY AND COUNTY TO ENSURE WE HAD DOCUMENTED PROOF AND WHENEVER WE CAME TO THE TABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE GET THE GRANT FUNDS OR REACH FOR MORE FUNDING TO COME TO THE AREA WE HAVE THAT AVAILABLE TO SUBMIT AT A MOMENTS NOTICE. HAPPY TO SAY AS OF TODAY SINCE JANUARY HAVE SIGNED ON 12 PARTNERS FROM NUECES COUNTY AND THEIR HAPPY AND PROVIDING SERVICES. WE ARE AUGMENTING AND SUPPLEMENTING EACH OTHER AND THIS WILL SOMETIMES, WHEN TIMES GET TOUGH WE WILL HAVE PARTNERS WE CAN LEAN ON AND THEY'LL HAVE SOMEBODY THEY CAN LEAN ON FROM OUR SIDE AS WELL AND I'M REALLY HAPPY TO PRESENT THAT. SO NOW MOVING INTO THE PRESENTATION.
I'M NOT SURE. >> YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR THE PUBLIC HEALTH? YOU MAY HAVE TO JUST TALK ABOUT IT.
>> SOUNDS GOOD, NO WORRIES. WHAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WAS THROUGHOUT THE THREE QUARTERS WE HAVE, TODAY I AM TALKING ABOUT OCTOBER THROUGH JUNE I AM TALKING ABOUT OCTOBER THROUGH JUNE 1 THREE QUARTERS OF SERVICES HAPPY TO SAY WE HAVE PROVIDED ALMOST 4000 SERVICES AS OF JUNE 25, THE NUMBER IS MUCH HIGHER NOW SINCE WE ARE STARTING WE JUST FINISHED THE LAST QUARTER AND WE'RE ANALYZING THE DATA COMING IN. WE HAVE PROVIDED OVER 18 SERVICES IN THE MOBILE CLINIC WHICH WE PROVIDE TWICE A MONTH AND WE REACH OUT SOME OF THE FURTHEST AREAS FROM THE COMMUNITY AND WE PRIMARILY TRY TO GO TO AREAS THAT PERHAPS HAVE NOT SEEN OR IT'S TOUGH FOR THEM TO COME TO THE INNER-CITY OR
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OTHER AREAS SO WE UTILIZE THE MOBILE CLINIC. WE HAVE GONE OUT TO THOSE , BISHOP, DRISCOLL AND WE CONTINUE TO MAKE THIS COMMUNITY AND PARTNERS EVENTS SO PEOPLE CAN COME VISIT AND GET THE SERVICES. HERE IN THE PRESENTATION IT SHOWS THE DIFFERENT SITES WHERE WE PROVIDE SERVICES, THE FIRST PICTURE IS THE LOCAL BRICK AND MORTAR WHICH IS THE LEE REGULAR FACILITY IN THE CITY LOCATED AT GREENWOOD AND HORN ROAD WHICH ARE TWO COLLECTOR STREETS AND WE GET A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC OVER THE YEARS OVER 2000 PEOPLE HAVE COME TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AT THIS LOCATION. THE SECOND PICTURE IN THE MIDDLE IS THE MOBILE CLINIC AND WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THAT BECAUSE WE ARE ABLE TO RETURN COMMUNITY WAY OUT IN AREAS THAT TYPICALLY ARE HARDER TO REACH AND WE ARE ABLE TO MOVE AROUND WITH THE MOBILE CLINIC. IT SERVES AS A FLAGSHIP. AS WE GO PEOPLE RECOGNIZE WHAT IT IS, PEOPLE GO TO US AND EVEN IF THEY DON'T GET A FLARE THEY GO AND ASK WHAT TYPE OF SERVICES WE ARE OFFERING AND WE KNOW THE SERVICES ARE NEEDED. LASTLY WE HAVE THE OTHER BRICK AND MORTAR WHICH WE RECENTLY HAD A RENOVATION AT THE CALL THEIR OWN BUILDING IN ROBSTOWN AND WE PROVIDE EVERY SINGLE SERVICE WE PROVIDE AND WE OFFER TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS EVERY WEEK. NEXT SLIDE. THIS SLIDE SUMMARIZES THE WORK WE DO. FOCUSING ON FOUR OF THE DIFFERENT PILLARS FOR PUBLIC HEALTH WHICH INCLUDE CHRONIC DISEASE, IMMUNIZATIONS, STD, STI'S AND EDUCATION AND OUTREACH. THERE'S A LOT MORE WE DO IN PUBLIC HEALTH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE CORE FUNCTIONS THAT THE COMMUNITY CAME AND RECEIVED SOME OF THE SERVICES SO WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.OVERALL AS OF JUNE 2025 WE HAVE PROVIDED 4000 CLINICAL SERVICES, 3251 IN CITY LIMITS OR INDIVIDUALS THAT SHOWED IDENTIFICATION THAT ADDRESS INSIDE CITY LIMITS, 217 INDIVIDUALS WITH ADDRESSES OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS AND 531 INDIVIDUALS THAT DID NOT HAVE ID THAT SHOWED A SPECIFIC ADDRESS OR HAD ADDRESS OUTSIDE OF STATE. SOMETIMES WE GET WINTER TEXAN TO COME AND THEY DO RECEIVE SERVICES. WE ARE FEDERALLY AND STATE-FUNDED SO WE GET RESIDENTS FROM SURROUNDING COUNTIES AND CITIES THAT COME AND GET OUR SERVICE FOR IMMUNIZATIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR STI'S AND STDS. OUR SATELLITE CLINIC PROVIDES EVERY SERVICE WE PROVIDE AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IN BRICK AND MORTAR. AS OF JUNE 2025 WE PROVIDED 34 TEXAS VACCINES FOR CHILDREN, 10 FOR ADULT AND WE CARRY THE SEASONAL FLU VACCINE. RIGHT NOW WE GETTING BACK INTO THE GROOVE SINCE IT IS FLU SEASON SO THE NUMBERS TEND TO ELEVATE DURING THIS TIME. WE HAVE SEEN NINE A1C, NINE CHOLESTEROL TEST AND NINE BLOOD PRESSURE AND NINE BODY MASS INDEX TEST AND STD AND SERVICES THAT ONE IS A LITTLE TOUGH FOR US TO SEE BUT WE ARE STILL DOING IT AND THE REASON IS SOMETIMES THESE SERVICES REQUIRE MORE OF A ROUTINE CHECKUP AND MORE TREATMENT. SO WE DO SEE CLIENTS THAT GET REFERRED TO US AND THEY COME TO BRICK AND MORTAR WHERE WE ARE ABLE TO CONTINUE SERVICES AND PROVIDE THE LONGER CASE MANAGEMENT CARE . SOME OF THESE CLIENTS AND ALTHOUGH YOU MAY SEE THE NUMBERS ARE NOT IN THE DOUBLE DIGITS , IT IS HARD FOR US TO COLLECT INFORMATION AND DATA THAT DEPICTS THE WORK WE DO AND THAT IS A PROBLEM WE HAVE IN PUBLIC HEALTH. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CLIENT FOCUSING ON TB , WE GET A REPORT FOR ONE PERSON WHO IS SICK. IT DOES NOT CONSIDER THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE HOUSE OR COLLEAGUES AT THEIR WORK SO THEY WORK IN A CUBICLE OR OFFICE SOMETIMES WE TO MAKE THAT COMMUNICATION AND CONTACT TRACING SO SOMETIMES ONE CASE COULD BE IN THE NUCLEAR HOME UPWARDS OF 10 OR EIGHT OR FIVE DIFFERENT FAMILY MEMBERS PROVIDING THE SAME LEVEL OF CARE. SOMETIMES WE PREVENT THEM FROM BEING POSITIVE AND THEY STAY NEGATIVE AND THAT IS SUCCESSFUL BUT IT IS HARD TO PUT THAT TOGETHER SINCE THEY ARE NOT TRULY A CASE THEY ARE A NEGATIVE CASE BUT WE ARE OFFERING SERVICES AS PART OF PREVENTIVE CARE SERVICES. MOBILE CLINIC IS THE ONE THAT HAS SEEN A LOT MORE USE BY OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE ARE MOVING AROUND GOING TO THEM INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR THEM TO COME TO US. IN THE MOBILE CLINIC WE HAVE GONE TO DIFFERENT SITES IN NUECES COUNTY PRIMARILY VISITING AREAS THAT ARE HARD TO REACH , SPECIFICALLY YOU WILL
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SEE EVERYBODY THAT DRIVES OUT IT IS A PRETTY FAR DRIVE, BUT WE ARE ABLE TO GO PROVIDE SERVICES. THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME ALL THE WAY TO THE INNER-CITY OR EVEN TO ROBSTOWN. WE ARE ABLE TO GO TO THEM AND PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF CARE.>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.
>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ HAS BEEN A STRONG ADVOCATE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS BECAUSE OF HIS ABILITY AND HE KEEPS PUSHING US TO DO BETTER AND WE APPRECIATE THAT AND WE'RE HOPEFUL WE ARE MEETING THE METRICS AND THE BENCHMARKS. A1C TEST WE HAVE DONE 63 EXAMINATIONS, 14 OR 34 CHOLESTEROL SORRY IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO READ. 59 BLOOD PRESSURE AND 55 BODY MASS INDEX. ON IMMUNIZATION, TYPICALLY WE SEE PEOPLE DO NOT COME TO THE MOBILE CLINIC TO RECEIVE ROUTINE VACCINES BUT THEY DO PREFER THE FLU VACCINE, THE SEASONAL VACCINE WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE THAT AREA ALL THE VACCINES PEOPLE ARE NOT REQUESTING IT BUT WE DO PROVIDE THE FLU VACCINE FREE OF CHARGE SO IF ANYBODY SEES THIS WE HAVE IT AVAILABLE.
WITH THAT YOU KNOW I WANT TO SHARE TWO STORIES. ONE OF THEM WHICH IS CLOSE TO US AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WITH CHRONIC DISEASE MITIGATION. WE JUST RECENTLY HAD AN INDIVIDUAL THAT CAME TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS WHEN THEY CAME AND THANKED US FOR SAVING THEIR LIVES. THEY DID NOT KNOW THEY HAD ELEVATED BLOOD PRESSURE AND IT WAS PRETTY HIGH AND THEY DID NOT FEEL SICK, THEY DO NOT FEEL LIKE THEY NEEDED TO GO TO THE DOCTOR. IT WAS A ROUTINE CHECK HAVE YOU EVER CHECK YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE IT TURNS OUT HIS BLOOD PRESSURE WAS VERY ELEVATED. SO WHAT WE DID AS I PASSED OUT THIS NICE HANDOUT SO THIS IS A COMMUNITY RESOURCE GUIDE, WE CREATED THIS AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. WE PUT ALL THE DIFFERENT SERVICES AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST PUBLIC HEALTH THAT PEOPLE OFTEN THINK OF CLINICAL OR PREVENTIVE SERVICES. IT HAS INFORMATION SUCH AS WORK PROGRAMS, HOUSING, SHELTER SERVICES, EDUCATION ASSISTANCE, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, FOOD, LAUNDRY, SHOWER SERVICES. WE WENT TO COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND ASKED WHAT DO YOU OFFER? WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IT, THIS GETS UPDATED AND WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO OR WHERE TO REACH, THIS LITTLE NOTEBOOK PROVIDES ALL THE DIFFERENT SERVICES THROUGHOUT NUECES COUNTY WHERE THEY CAN REACH OUT TO GET SOME OF THE HELP.
>> CAN WE GET SOME FOR THE OUTSIDE TABLE? THAT WOULD BE
GOOD. >> I WILL MAKE IT A POINT TO BRING EVERYONE AND I WILL BRING HARD COPIES. ON THE BACK OF IT WE HAVE A DIGITAL QR CODE, THIS IS THE MOST UP-TO-DATE AND EVERYTHING WE UPDATE , YOU KNOW WHEN YOU PRINT SOMETHING IT BECOMES OUTDATED BUT TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THE ELECTRONIC ONE CONTINUES TO BE UPDATED. WITH THAT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT. WE ARE EXTREMELY HAPPY TO CONTINUE THIS PARTNERSHIP AND GOING TO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. WE HAVE GAINED SOME STEADY TRACTION MAKING THESE OTHER THINGS STARTING TO HAPPEN AND THE HAPPIEST THING FOR ME ON A PERSONAL SIDE IS THE STATE IS FINALLY LOOKING AT US AS SOMEBODY, WHERE THE BENCHMARK. THERE ASKING FOR INPUT, CONSIDERING INPUT AND THERE ASKING US HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING IT AND TELL US HOW TO DO IT FOR OTHER PEOPLE USING IT AND THAT MAKES ME EXTREMELY HAPPY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
>> FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE TIME YOU TOOK. YOU ALWAYS SEEM TO BE THE GO TO PERSON AT THE CITY WHEN THERE IS A VACANCY AT A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT THIS IS PROBABLY YOUR SECOND TOUR GOING BACK TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO LEAVE IT ON A INTERIM BASIS SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF YOUR PASSIONS AND THINGS YOU HAVE PICKED UP OVER THE YEARS SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. ON THE VALUE DATA ON THE MOBILE CLINIC THAT'S GREAT. WHEN WE APPROVED FUNDING FOR IT, DO YOU GO DURING CERTAIN EVENTS, DO YOU PLAN AROUND CERTAIN EVENTS THAT WE HAVE AT THESE LOCATIONS BECAUSE I AM LIKE THESE ARE THE SPOTS I WOULD PICK IN THE RURAL PART OF THE COUNTY. YOU KNOW LIKE SENIOR CENTERS DO YOU GO WHEN THEY ARE THERE WHEN SENIORS ARE THERE? I KNOW MOST PROBABLY GO SEE THE DOCTOR, BUT MOST DO NOT HAVE A CAPTIVE AUDIENCE AND THEY ARE THERE AND THEY CAN EASILY COME OUT AND I REMEMBER BACK IN ELEMENTARY THEY HAD A
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LITTLE BOOK TRUCK. THE BOOK MOBILE. THERE YOU GO.>> I NEVER WENT TO THE BOOK MOBILE.
>> ANYWAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT, CAPTIVE AUDIENCE THAT'S WHAT I AM THINKING SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT IT INCLUDES BUT MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THE FUTURE.
BECAUSE WE HAVE A PRETTY ROBUST GROUP OF SENIORS AT OUR CENTERS AND OTHER SITES, I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU INCLUDED SOME IN THE CITY, AS WELL. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO REMIND OURSELVES AND THE COMMUNITY THIS IS A JOINT VENTURE. I LOVE THAT YOU TALK ABOUT THIS GOES BEYOND CORPUS CHRISTI AND NUECES COUNTY BECAUSE YES I HAVE HEARD STORIES AND HAVE SEEN PEOPLE COME FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES OUTSIDE THAT HAVE COME TO USE OUR SERVICES.
THIS IS A VITAL RESOURCE SO I THINK YOU'RE DOING GREAT. I HOPE YOU CAN HELP PASS ON YOUR PASSION AND YOUR VISION AND YOUR KNOWLEDGE TO THE NEW DIRECTOR AND YOU KNOW THEY WILL BRIDGE THAT GAP AS THIS IS PART OF HIS CHARGE BUT THANKS, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED. THIS BUILD STABILITY RESCHEDULING. MORE PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER TO UTILIZE THESE SERVICES BECAUSE IT IS STILL A PROCESS. WE GET CALLS OR I GET ASKED WHEN CAN I GO WHAT DAYS ARE AVAILABLE? WE HAVE A PRESENCE WEEK LONG WITH OUR PARTNERSHIPS SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND THIS IS AN AMAZING BOOK. I COULD USE ONE OR TWO MYSELF BECAUSE THESE ARE EXTRA QUESTIONS WE GET AS MEMBERS OF GOVERNMENT. CONSTITUENTS DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO TO GET SERVICES. THIS WILL DEFINITELY
BE UTILIZED. >> I HEAR YOU AND I UNDERSTAND.
ONE OF THE BIG PUSHES THIS YEAR WAS TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE COULD GET TO THE BRICK AND MORTAR WHERE INDIVIDUALS ACTUALLY GO AND HANG OUT OR THEY HAVE ROUTINE EVENTS WHERE WE COULD GO PROVIDE SERVICES. THERE IS A COMMUNITY PARTNER OFFERING AND A HALF FOOT TRAFFIC WHY NOT TAGALONG AND PROVIDE SERVICES? THAT SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING INTO TO MAKE SURE WE ARE UTILIZING AS WE CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD. WE HAVE LEARNED A LOT OF GOOD LESSONS FROM NOT ONLY SERVICES WE PROVIDE, BUT HOW WE PROVIDE THEM AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY DO COME TO US AND TRY TO GET CLINICAL SERVICES. IT WILL TELL US THEY DON'T HAVE MEDICATION AND SOMETIMES THEY EXPECT US TO HAVE THE MEDICATION AND THAT'S WHERE THIS COMES IN HANDY. I'M GOING TO ASK STAFF TO START TRACKING HOW MANY OF THESE WE PASS OUT BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS OUTREACH WE ARE PROVIDING AND IT MAY NOT BE PHYSICAL TOUCH WHERE WE ARE TESTING YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE OR A1C BUT IT IS A RESOURCE THEY CAN TAKE AND IT IS A HEALTH
>> THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING THE CHARGE AND MOVING FORWARD, REACHING OUT. WHICH IS WAY OVERDUE. AGAIN CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM. WE STARTED THIS LIKE SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS AGO AND IT HAS BEEN A LONG WAY GOING. WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER AS A TEAM PUSHING FORWARD AND THE MISSION IS THE SAME. REACH OUT TO THOSE IN NEED AND HELP THE UNDERSERVED AND UNINSURED. I SAY TO THE JUDGE MANY TIMES WHEN I LOOK AT THE LITERATURE AND WITH A PARTNERSHIP, IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO GET WHERE WE ARE. NOT JUST A MOBILE CLINIC IT BELONGS TO WHOEVER. YOU KNOW WE GOT IT FROM SCRATCH TO WHAT IT IS NOW. WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON IT , YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A LOT OF GOOD WORK SO AS A PARTNER LETTING PEOPLE KNOW IT REALLY BELONGS TO THE COUNTY PARTNERSHIP. WE HAVE TO CONTINUE THAT PARTNERSHIP. SO THIS IS JUST MY TAKE. CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM NOTHING PERSONAL. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE
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DONE FOR STICKING OUT AS A INTERIM NOW ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, WE APPRECIATE YOU AND THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE. THANK YOU VERY>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK YOU AND EVERYONE AT THE CITY AND COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAVE PUT INTO THE PROGRAM AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE I.T. NOT BEING UP TO SPEED TO GET YOUR PRESENTATION UP CORRECTLY WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT , WHEN I WAS ON THE COMMISSIONERS COURT A FEW YEARS AGO, WE STARTED CONTRIBUTING TO A PROGRAM BEING RUN OUT OF THE GARCIA ARTS CENTER AND JOE FULTON JUNIOR WAS THE PERSON WHO SPEARHEADED THE PROGRAM AND IT WAS TO BASICALLY ADDRESS THE FACT THAT AT ONE TIME NUECES COUNTY WAS RECOGNIZED AS THE LEADING PLACE IN THE OF TEXAS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIABETES. WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER NOT SO GREAT A BOARD IN THE FACT THAT ALSO I THINK WE LEAVE THE STATE IN THE NUMBER OF AMPUTATIONS DONE IN THE COUNTY AT THE HOSPITAL AS A RESULT OF PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM DIABETES. SO THEY STARTED THE PROGRAM AND ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU REMEMBER OR IF YOU WERE ON THE COURT YET OR NOT. ANYWAY, WE ALL CONTRIBUTED WITH DIABETES FUNDING TO THE PROGRAM AND IT WAS REALLY SUCCESSFUL, THEY DO NOT JUST TEST PEOPLE AND COLLECT A1C INFORMATION, BUT PROVIDED EDUCATION ABOUT HOW THEY CHANGE THEIR LIFESTYLE AND EATING HABITS AND THEY WENT IN THE AREA AROUND THE GARCIA ARTS CENTER WAS IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF THE LEADING AREAS IN THE COUNTY FOR PEOPLE DIAGNOSED WITH DIABETES AND THEY WENT TO THE HOMES AND VISITED WITH THE PEOPLE AND SAT DOWN AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT MENU SELECTIONS AT HOME, AT NIGHT FOR THEIR MEALS TO TRY TO HAVE SOME IMPACT AND I THOUGHT THE PROGRAM WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL, THEY WERE COLLECTING RESULTS AND IT BECAME SO SUCCESSFUL THAT THEY STARTED GETTING GRANT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE AND AT SOME POINT THEY SAID WE DON'T NEED YOUR MONEY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PROGRAM SINCE I LEFT THE COURT, IF IT IS STILL IN PLACE OR IF IT COULD, BUT I THINK AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO STOP COLLECTING DATA AND GO TRY TO HAVE A IMPACT ON WHAT WE SEE AS A RESULT OF THE DATA COLLECTION. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
>> ABSOLUTELY IT MAKES SENSE AND IT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO REALLY BE FOCUSING ON. FOR WELLNESS WEDNESDAY INITIATIVES WE PROVIDE EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID. PEOPLE DON'T JUST COME TO US AND WE GIVE THEM THE NUMBER AND THEY WALK OUT WE TRY TO DO A FULL SERVICE WHERE IF THEY DON'T HAVE A MEDICAL PROVIDER, WE TRY TO FIND ONE FOR THEM AND REACH OUT TO COMMUNITY PARTNERS SO THEY CAN GET MEDICATION BUT MEDICATION WILL NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM SO DO HEALTH EDUCATION AND NUTRITION. WE TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO COOK, WE PARTNER WITH THE FOOD BANK, THEY BRING THE FOOD AND TEACH PEOPLE SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE ON HOW TO CREATE BETTER DISHES SPECIFIC TO THE CHRONIC DISEASES AND CONDITIONS THEY DO HAVE, WE ARE WELL AWARE AND YOU ARE CORRECT SOUTH TEXAS HAS A HIGH PREVALENCE OF DIABETES AND CHRONIC DISEASE. SOMETHING THAT PLAGUES US. A LOT OF RESTAURANTS PER CAPITA IN THE SOUTH MORE THAN OTHER AREAS AND SOMETIMES THE OPTIONS ARE NOT HEALTHY AND THERE ARE HEALTHY OPTIONS AS WELL SO WE TEACH THE COMMUNITY HOW TO MAKE IT BETTER INFORMED DECISION SO THEY CAN HAVE BETTER OUTCOME. INFORMED PEOPLE HAVE BETTER OUTCOMES AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. MOVING FORWARD WE ARE NOW STARTING TO GO BACK OUT AND PROVIDE SOME OF THE A1C TO COMMUNITY PARTNERS WE IS TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO AND WE REFER BACK TO THE HEALTH EDUCATION PROGRAM SO THEY CAN GET FURTHER EDUCATION ON NUTRITION, DIABETES, CHRONIC DISEASE AND WE ARE HOPING WE WILL MOVE THE NEEDLE AND WE WILL SEE CHANGES, LONG-LASTING CHANGES SO THE COMMUNITY WILL BE BETTER OFF. ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW
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AT THE END OF THE DAY WHAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE IS TO MAKE SURE INDIVIDUALS WHO DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THESE TYPES OF SERVICES KNOW THAT WE ARE AVAILABLE AND WE PROVIDE THAT AT NO COST. SOME PEOPLE COME TO US THE A1C TESTS ARE NOT EVEN REGISTERED IN THE SYSTEM WHICH MEANS IT'S ELEVATED AND YOU CAN SEE THEIR FACE WHEN THEY REALIZE WE CANNOT GIVE THEM A NUMBER BECAUSE THE MACHINE MAXED OUT, THEY COME BACK, WE GIVE THEM HEALTH EDUCATION, PROVIDE RESOURCES AND THEY COME BACK THREE MONTHS LATER AND THERE IN THE RANGE WHERE IT CAN BE READ, THEY ARE HIGH BUT YOU WENT FROM WE COULD NOT MEASURE YOU, NOW WE CAN MEASURE AND IT'S MAKING CHANGES SO IT IS MAKING IMPACT.>> THAT'S GREAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH AND I KNOW YOU ARE DOING EVERYTHING YOU CAN. WE HAVE COMMUNITY CENTERS ALL THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTY WHERE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN AND AROUND THE AREAS WILL MEET FREQUENTLY FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER SO MAYBE WE CAN GO TO EACH OF THOSE AND ANNOUNCE WE WILL HAVE HEALTH EXAMINATION FAIR OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT AND TRY TO GET OUT THERE AND UTILIZE FACILITIES FOR THAT SORT OF THING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING HARD TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND WE SINCERELY
APPRECIATE THAT. >> ANYONE ELSE? I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND FOR YOUR WORK AS INTERIM AS WELL AND THANK YOU FOR COMING UP WITH THE DESIGN THAT'S EASIER FOR ME TO SEE ON THE REPORTS. THESE ARE GOING TO BE REGULAR REPORTS GIVEN TO THE COURT, AT THE END OF EACH QUARTER WITH THE INFORMATION INCLUDED FROM THE PREVIOUS QUARTER BECAUSE OF INFORMATION GOING IN AND OUT FOR US TO HAVE THESE ON A REGULAR BASIS. THEY WILL BE ONE QUARTER BEHIND BUT WE WILL BE GETTING THESE EVERY QUARTER, THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE COOPERATION AND PARTNERSHIP AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
[4. Discuss and consider distributing the remaining county-wide available balance of $1,901,658.32 and the remaining court individual balance of $260,172.30 of the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds. Grand total of $2,161,830.62 to be reallocated and related matters.]
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MOVING ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR DISCUSS AND CONSIDER DISTRIBUTING THE REMAINING COUNTYWIDE AVAILABLE BALANCE OF 1.901658 OF 1.90165 8.32 REMAINING INDIVIDUAL COURT BALANCES TOTAL OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL COURT BALANCES $260,172.30 OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS ARE GRANTS. GRANT TOTALING 2,000,161 $830 GRANT TOTALING 2,000,161 $830.62 THAT NEEDS TO BE REALLOCATED AND RELATED MATTERS AND I BELIEVE THIS WAS ON AGENDA LAST TIME AND WE ALL UNDERSTOOD, YOU HAD MEETINGS WITH AMANDA, IS SHE ONLINE FOR THIS? YES. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO TRANSFER MONEY , IT WAS HIGHLY SUGGESTED YOU GET APPROVAL ALREADY THROUGH GRANT WORKS TO MAKE SURE IT IS AN ALLOWABLE EXPENSE SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANY COMMISSIONER, OR HOW WE WANT TO BEGIN THE PROCESS.
BASICALLY WE DIVIDED UP AND EACH COMMISSIONER HAD 380,000, TO ALLOCATE TO FUND, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID DOES ANYONE, I'M SORRY .
366 EACH? I DIVIDED 1901 . >> WE HAVE TO BUDGET FOR THE
SALARIES FOR THE SECOND YEAR. >> TAKING OUT THE MONEY SO WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE PUT THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT'S NOT AVAILABLE.
>> IT IS THE TOTAL WE ARE JUST DISTRIBUTING FOR SALARIES .
>> 366 EACH? EVEN? >> YES MA'AM.
>> IS THAT IN THE BACKUP? >> YES MA'AM.
>> ANY COMMISSIONER'S THAT HAVE ANYTHING THERE READY TO PROCEED FORWARD OR? GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER.
>> READY UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE WANTS TO GO FIRST.
>> I JUST NEED SOMEBODY TO GO. >> HAPPY TO START OF THE $366,000 I HAVE SEVERAL MOTIONS I WILL DO FUND SWAPS TO KEEP IT CLEAN WITH BOB HALL PIER. AND THIS IS GOING TO BREAK EVEN LIKE
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WE HAD DONE BEFORE TO PULL MONEY AWAY, BUT PUT IT BACK. JUST TOBE CLEAR. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. COUNTYWIDE
MONEY? >> IT IS MONEY ALREADY ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT IN THE PROJECT.
>> WE EACH HAVE 366 >> WE EACH HAVE 366,000, PLUS WHATEVER YOU HAD IN YOUR INDIVIDUAL PRECINCT ARPA MONEY.
>> I NEED TO EXCHANGE? >> YES, FIRST OF ALL PRECINCT 4 I THINK I ALLOCATED THAT MONEY SHOWING AS BACKUP BUT I ALLOCATED AT THE LAST COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING NEW. I THINK I MADE THE MOTION AT THE LAST MEETING CORRECT? OR WAS THAT ANOTHER
AMOUNT? >> THE SAME AMOUNT WITH A CHANGE ORDER FOR PARKER PROVED TO REDUCE THAT AMOUNT.
>> THE AMOUNT ON CR 47 BRIDGE 10,000 253,035 , THAT WAS THE MOTION FROM LAST COURT TO ALLOCATE THAT TO BOB HALL PIER.
>> TOTAL WAS 19,000 AND WE REDUCED BY THE CHANGE ORDER SO THIS IS AVAILABLE. IT'S NOT 19,000 BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO OFFSET THE CHANGE ORDER SO ON THE SHEET IT SHOWS CHANGE ORDER ONE AND TWO REDUCED ORIGINAL 19,000 BY THE TOTAL, THE CHANGE ORDER SO THE 10,000 IS BOB HALL PIER.
>> YOU NEED TO EDIT THAT TOTAL. >> LAST COURT ALLOCATED 19,000
TO BOB HALL PIER. >> IN THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE 9000 FROM COUNTYWIDE MONIES WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE IT EASIER THAT WAS THE BALANCE FROM LAST COURT 19,000 BUT YOU HAVE A CHANGE ORDER NOT ALLOCATED YET SO WE JUST REDUCED THE 19,000 PORTION OUT SO THE REMAINDER THAT'S GOING TO BOB HALL PIER WOULD BE
10,200. >> ALREADY IN MOTION AND DONE.
>> RIGHT BUT AT THE 19,000 SO IT IS LESS.
>> WANT ME TO MAKE CLARIFYING MOTION?
>> YES OR. >> SO I WOULD RESCIND THE LAST?
>> UPDATE THE ACTUAL BALANCE THAT GOES TO BOB HALL PIER.
>> I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION TO UPDATE THE AMOUNT 10,253 INSTEAD OF 19,000 AND CHANGE FROM LAST COURT FIRST MOTION.
>> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> SECOND MOTION OF MY 366,000 I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT 256,000 ALLOCATED TO THE BOB HALL PIER ARPA FUND PROJECT.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE . THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
>> NOW MY REMAINING $110,000 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE $110,000 FROM I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE I DID BEFORE TERESA I APOLOGIZE. I HAD DIED AND LEFT WHERE I DID IT BEFORE.
>> TALKING ABOUT THE HURRICANE HARVEY MONIES?
>> I MESSED UP. I'M SORRY HOLD ON A SECOND.
>> QUICK QUESTION WHILE HE IS THINKING. DO WE HAVE TO MAKE
THESE TODAY? >> WE SUGGESTED AT THE LAST COURT TO GET THEM APPROVED AND MAKE THEM BECAUSE OF THE TIME FOR A MEETING TO UTILIZE ARPA FUNDS ON THE AMENDMENTS AND ANYTHING UNLESS YOU ARE TRANSFERRING TO A CURRENT PROJECT LIKE TRADING MONEY OUT LIKE HE WAS DOING.
>> I WILL PROBABLY MOVE SOME MONEY , THIS ADDITIONAL MONEY.
>> YOU CAN HOLD OFF. >> I CAN PROBABLY DO IT FOR THE
NEXT OCTOBER MEETING. >> I WOULD TRY TO DO SOMETHING
BY THE NEXT MEETING. >> I WILL PROBABLY MOVE HILLTOP TO DO ONE OF THE OTHER WINGS. I HAVE THE PROJECT LINED UP .
>> YOU CAN HOLD OFF , BUT I STRONGLY SUGGEST TO ALL OF US WE
DO NOT WAIT MUCH LONGER. >> THAT'S ALL IT IS.
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>> WE WILL HAVE THIS ON THE NEXT AGENDA.
>> SORRY I DID NOT DO THAT RIGHT I NEED TO RESCIND WHAT I DID. I APOLOGIZE I DID THAT IN REVERSE ORDER. IF I CAN RESCIND THE PRIOR MOTION PASSED AND DO SOMETHING AGAIN THAT WOULD BE MY
MOTION. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
RESCINDING EVERYTHING? >> JUST THE LAST. I APOLOGIZE.
THE FIRST MOTION IS TO MOVE 366,000 TO THE BOB HALL PIER ARE PREPROJECT FIRST MOTION AND I WILL MAKE SUBSEQUENT MOTIONS
AFTER THAT. >> FIRST MOTION YES MOTION AND SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THE MOTION PASSES, GO
AHEAD. >> NO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE $60,000 FROM THE AVAILABLE FUNDS I WILL SAY FROM HURRICANE HARVEY FUNDS THAT WERE IN THERE AND ALLOCATE THAT FROM BOB HALL PIER TO THE PARKER POOL.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND TO MOVE 60,000 FROM HURRICANE HARVEY FUNDING OUT OF THE BOB HALL PIER TO PARKER POOL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED?
>> THE LAST MOTION IS TO MOVE $50,000 FROM THE HURRICANE HARVEY FUNDS FROM BOB HALL PIER TO THE PORT A VETERANS MEMORIAL
PROJECT. >> I WILL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. TO MOVE FROM THE BOB HALL PIER HURRICANE HARVEY FUNDS TO THE PORT A VETERANS MEMORIAL. PROJECT.
>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES.
>> FOR CLARIFICATION THAT WILL LEAVE A INCREASE IN THE ARPA FUND BOB HALL PIER OF 256,000 . NET INCREASE.
>> SECOND ON THE LAST. >> CLARIFYING.
>> CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MUCH WE HAVE IN HURRICANE HARVEY LEFT?
>> 272 953. HURRICANE HARVEY. >> OKAY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE CHECKING THAT BEFORE WE CONTINUED WITH THE MOTIONS. FIVE
FUNDING SOURCES. >> MY CONCERN WOULD BE WHAT DO WE HAVE COUNTYWIDE? FOR THE PIER?
>> YOU HAVE IN HILLTOP, THAT WOULD BE THE BIG PROJECT. I HAVE THE BIGGEST PROJECT AND I'M FINE DOING IT. WE HAVE OTHER BIG
ONES TOO. >> READY FOR YEARS COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? COMMISSIONER MAREZ , COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IS DONE.
>> 266,000. AGAIN TO EXCHANGE ARPA FUNDS FOR DOLLARS FROM THE
PIER HARVEY FUNDS . >> THEY ONLY HAVE 200 AND HOW MUCH? THAT AND SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH.
>> 2 MILLION? >> YOU DON'T HAVE 366 TO GET SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THAT AND YOU CAN DIVIDE JUST SO YOU WANT TO
DIVIDE . >> REALLY WHAT I NEED IS 135,000 PER THE MEDICAL FOR THE ROAD I NEED 100,000 AND IT WAS APPROVED
AND ALSO OKAY WITH ALL OF THAT. >> HAS ANY OF THIS BEEN APPROVED BY GRANT WORKS? ARE YOU READY TO MOVE FORWARD?
>> THERE'S 152,000 REMAINING IN THE PIER HURRICANE HARVEY .
>> 152 950 373 WOULD BE REMAINING HURRICANE HARVEY
MONIES. >> DO YOU WANT TO TAKE ALL OF
THAT AND THEN GET THE REST? >> WHEN I GET THE MONEY I CAN
USE IT FOR THE ARPA FUNDS. >> THAT DEPENDS WE HAVE TO SEE.
THAT DEPENDS ON THE COUNTY ATTORNEY BECAUSE IT IS NOT OUR
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ROAD. >> YEAH. THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM.
I AM WITH YOU. >> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE THAT.
SO YOU WANT TO TAKE THE HARVEY MONEY AND THE REST OF YOUR 300
WHATEVER THAT IS ? >> REMAINING ARPA AFTER 152
WOULD BE 213 04627. >> 213 04627 .
>> THERE ARE HARVEY FUNDS ON THE HILLTOP.
>> THAT'S REMAINING ARPA FUNDS. >> RIGHT. YOU JUST SWAPPED 360,
>> HELLO THE FACT COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ IS PUTTING HIS ARPA FUNDS ON BOB HALL PIER. THAT IS AWESOME. HAPPY TO SWITCH THAT
OUT. >> ALWAYS RETURN THE FAVOR BUT
THAT'S OKAY. >> MARK MY MARCHING BAND.
>> THE OTHER 213,000 , YOU COULD TAKE FROM CEOS OR WHATEVER. HOW MUCH IS IN THE HILLTOP, HOW MUCH HARVEY FUNDS IS IN THERE?
>> SORRY ASKING WHO? >> TERESA HE WANTS IT ALL TO BE HARVEY FUNDS.
>> HURRICANE HARVEY MONIES? >> I DO NOT THINK THERE WAS. I
THOUGHT WE CHANGED IT OUT. >> WOULD YOU ASK THE QUESTION
AGAIN? >> HOW MUCH FUNDING IS HURRICANE
HARVEY IN THE HILLTOP? >> I TELL YOU THAT NOW,
$2,204,749 >> I TELL YOU THAT NOW,
>> 213 ZERO 4627. >> THANK YOU.
>> 213? >> THAT'S WHAT I HAVE ALLOCATED
FOR THE HILLTOP. IN MY BUDGET. >> WE CAN SWITCH IT OUT FOR ARPA MONEY THE HILLTOP HAS BEEN APPROVED AND THEIR MANAGING.
>> WE WANT TO DO A SWAP? >> YOU WILL PUT ARPA FUNDS AND IT WILL PROBABLY DO MY AMOUNT THERE WITH THAT MUCH IT'S JUST EASIER. I THINK WE CAN COME BACK TO DO THAT. RIGHT NOW SWAPPING OUT MONEY WHERE AVAILABLE NOT DEDICATING IS EASIER TO DO ONE AND WE CAN SPEND MONEY LATER. SO THAT IS HIS MOTION TO TAKE FROM THE HILLTOP HARVEY FUNDS , 213 ZERO 46 AND I WILL SECOND HIS MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 213 4627. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. I WILL GO LAST, BUT EASY TRANSFER. COMMISSIONER.
>> DID COMMISSIONER TO HIS INDIVIDUAL?
>> YOUR WANTING TO HOLD OFF OR YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH VOTES OR YOU WANT THE MONEY TRANSFERRED?
>> MOVING FORWARD. >> I CANNOT USE HARVEY. NOW THAT
I HAVE EXCHANGED I CAN USE THEM. >> YOU HAVE 26,000 REMAINING IN
THE INDIVIDUAL ARPA . >> 26,000?
>> ARE ALL HIS PROJECTS CLOSED? OR REMAINING BECAUSE THE PROJECT IS NOT FINISHED? BECAUSE MINE CHOSE 11 MINE IS NOT FINISHED IT
IS STILL OUTSTANDING. >> THE PORTION IS NOT OBLIGATED.
YOU HAVE 26,000 REMAINING IN YOUR INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS.
>> CAN I HOLD OFF AND GET BACK WITH YOU?
>> I WOULD TRANSFER TO THE HARVEY MONEY TO MAKE IT EASY.
LET'S CLEAR THE ARPA MONEY NOW. >> IS THAT YOUR MOTION? I WILL SECOND . TAKING 26 REMAINING PERSONAL BALANCE IN HIS PRECINCT
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AND TRANSFERRING FROM TRADING OUT WITH THE HILLTOP HARVEY MONEY PUTTING THAT ARPA MONEY ON THE HILLTOP.>> ON MY BOOKS HURRICANE HARVEY FUNDING WILL REDUCE WHAT ARPA
WILL INCREASE. >> YES IT IS A WASH. MOTION AND SECOND TO TAKE 26 AND DO THE SAME WITH ARPA MONEY TO THE HILLTOP TRADE-OFF FOR HARVEY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> WHICH PROJECT ARE THE ARPA MONIES GOING TO TRADE-OFF FROM HURRICANE HARVEY TO WHICH PROJECTS?
>> HE IS FIXING TO MAKE THE MOTIONS WE ARE JUST GETTING MONEY CLEARED FIRST. HE IS USING HARVEY MONEY INSTEAD OF ARPA, CLEARING OUT ALL MONEY NO THE 366 AND 26 WILL BE HARVEY MONEY NOT ARPA MONEY. HE READY TO MAKE MOTIONS OR CAN WE CLEAR?
>> IF YOU HAVE MOTIONS READY AND THEY HAVE BEEN CLEARED BY THE ATTORNEY AND EVERYONE, WE CAN DO THE PROJECTS OR YOU SAID YOU
COULD NOT DO ONE. >> CANNOT USE THE ARPA FUNDS.
>> MAKING A MOTION THAT THE COUNTYWIDE FUNDS TO EXCHANGE WITH THE MEMORIAL PARK , DO I HAVE TO SAY THE AMOUNT?
>> THE AMOUNT AND REAR PROJECTS? CAN WE VOTE ON SOMETHING JUST
ALLOCATED? >> IN ADDITION TO WHAT I HAVE DONE. AND COVERS AND ALL THAT STUFF?
>> BRING THAT BACK ON THE 22ND WITH THE AGENDA ITEM WHICH IS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. SINCE IT IS HARVEY MONEY IT IS NOT GOING AWAY IT IS NOT URGENT SO WE NEED MORE DETAIL ON WHAT YOU PLAN ON DOING WITH IT IF YOU DON'T MIND. IS THAT OKAY? WE WILL DO THAT. COMMISSIONER MAREZ YOUR NEXT WITH YOUR MONEY.
>> YES MA'AM. AND LET'S SEE. SO ON THE MOU BALANCES , I WANT SOME CLARIFICATION IF YOU CAN HELP ME TERESA OR EDWARD. I HAVE 161, 61. AND THE COUNTYWIDE ALLOCATION .
>> IS THAT THE CORRECT AMOUNT? >> THIS IS FROM SEPTEMBER 30 SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD ONE UPDATED.
>> THIS IS 158. >> 158, 289 70.
>> THAT WOULD BE THE AMOUNT I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN FOR
HILLTOP. >> WANT TO ADD THOSE TOGETHER AND DO THEM AT THE SAME TIME? AND ONE TRANSFER INSTEAD OF
SEPARATE? >> THAT'S MY MOTION.
>> I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. WE HAVE A TOTAL?
>> 366 . >> SORRY I THOUGHT YOU WERE
DOING THAT. >> WE NEED TO MAKE SURE CONSTANCE AND TERESA ARE GETTING THE NUMBERS. I KNOW WE WILL.
>> AT THE MOTION. >> 524, 280, 290?
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO DO THE SAME JUST SWAP THE FUNDS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES COMING BACK WITH HARVEY, COMMISSIONER PUSLEY YOU ARE UP.
DO YOU WANT TO DO THE SAME WITH YOURS?
>> TO DO WHAT? I AM NOT DOING ANYTHING UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
>> OKAY. EVEN WITH 58? >> I DID NOT REALIZE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MAKE THE DECISIONS TODAY I APOLOGIZE. I AM GOING TO LOOK AT , ALL OF MY ARPA FUNDS FOR THE TWO PROJECTS. THE OTHERS
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>> I WILL SEE HOW MUCH I WANT TO DIVIDE BETWEEN THOSE PROJECTS.
>> I WANTED TO DO THE SAME IF IT IS MY TURN , THAT WOULD BE
>> COMMISSIONER, IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER FOR US IF YOU CAN CONVERT THAT TO COUNTY CASH SO THE PROJECTS YOU HAVE PLANNED
FOR HILLTOP NOT HILLTOP. >> IF YOU TRANSFER YOURS LIKE WE ARE DOING TO HARVEY FUNDS THEY ARE UNRESTRICTED, THEY DON'T END THE TIME YOU CAN DO MORE WITH IT. WAIT UNTIL NEXT MEETING YOU CAN DO THE SAME. IF YOU WANT TO TRANSFER YOURS LIKE WE ARE DOING YOU CAN COME BACK WITH A PROJECTS NEXT MEETING.
CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ] AT T >> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, EDWARD. I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S EXACTLY
WHAT I'LL DO. >> AND MINE THEN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO WAIT AND BRING YOURS BACK, THEN I THINK IT'S $373,023 TOTAL. I WANT TO DO THE SAME THING, TRANSFER FROM THE ARPA TO THE HILLTOP COMMUNITY, AND I WILL BRING PROJECTS BACK AT A LATER DATE FOR THAT. THAT'S MY MOTION.
>> SECOND. >> THANK YOU. SOMEBODY. ALL
THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? >> AYE.
>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. I BELIEVE IT WAS UNANIMOUS. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. GO AHEAD, TERESA. >> I HAVE TO VERIFY THE REMAINING HURRICANE HARVEY FUNDS THAT WILL BE REMAINING IS GOING TO BE LIKE $94,000 AFTER WE DO THE SWAP AND PUT EVERYTHING INTO
ARPA. >> BUT THEN THERE WILL BE --
>> FROM THE 2.2, SO WE TOOK THE ENTIRE 1.8, THE 360 PENDING
COMMISSIONER PUSLEY'S. >> IF YOU TOOK HIS.
>> RIGHT. >> IT WAS 2 MILLION --
>> MOVE EVERYTHING? >> THERE'S ALSO C.O.S AND
FUNDING. >> TALKING HURRICANE HARVEY TO SAY THERE WILL BE 94,000 HURRICANE HARVEY FUNDS REMAINING IN ADDITION TO THE ARPA MONEYS WE ARE SWITCHING.
>> I HAVE 3.4 MILLION IN HILLTOP.
>> BEFORE TRANSFERRING OURS, COMMISSIONER PUSLEY WILL COME BACK OCTOBER 22ND, I THINK IT'S THE 22ND, MEETING AND MAKE HIS CHANGES AND POTENTIALLY HAVE HIS PROJECTS READY TO MOVE FORWARD IF HE WANTS TO DO SO, CORRECT, COMMISSIONER?
>> YES, MA'AM. >> ARE YOU WANTING TO DO
[5. Discuss and consider authorizing the County Judge to execute an American Institute of Architects (AIA) Construction contract with LMC Corporation in the amount of $3,790,329.16 under BuyBoard Cooperative Contract No. 728-24 for Bob Hall Pier Third-Party Concession Building Reconstruction, subject to review and approval of the County Attorney; and related matters.]
SOMETHING DIFFERENT? >> YES, YOUR HONOR, THAT'S
CORRECT. >> AMANDA, THANK YOU VERY BEING ON HERE. WE TRIED TO MAKE IT SIMPLER FOR YOU. YES.
>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, WE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE THEN. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE AN AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF ARCHITECTS CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH LMC CORPOCONCESSION BUILDING CONSTRUCTION SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.
>> IF YOU WILL REMEMBER, OUR PREVIOUS CONTRACTOR, PIER CONTRACTOR WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THE RESTAURANT CONTRACT DECIDED THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT, SO WE LET THEM OUT OF THAT. THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER ISSUE FOR A WHOLE DIFFERENT DAY.
WE WENT TO THE JOB CONTRACTING METHOD OF COMING UP WITH A NEW CONTRACTOR, AND I WILL TELL YOU, A TON OF TIME HAS GONE INTO THIS BECAUSE THESE NUMBERS CAME IN WAY, WAY HIGHER THAN THIS TO BEGIN WITH, AND WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE BECAUSE WE HAVE A GREAT LOCAL TEAM OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS AND WORKING WITH ME TO GET THIS NUMBER TO A POINT OF WHICH IT'S -- IT'S REASONABLE, DOABLE, AND WE HAVE THE MONEY IN OUR CONTINGENCY, AND CERTAINLY WITH THE ADDITIONAL MONEY I JUST PUT INTO IT, THAT WILL ONLY ADD MORE TO OUR CONTINGENCY THAT I'M SURE WE ARE GOING TO NEED, SO WE ARE GOOD TO GO ON THIS. WE HAVE
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THE FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THIS IN THE PROJECT. LMC IS A COMPANY THAT HAS DONE QUITE A BIT OF WORK HERE LOCALLY FOR COASTAL PARKS PRIMARILY. SCOTT CROSS IS VERY FAMILIAR AS IS SCOTT HARRIS ON THIS. THIS IS JUST, I DON'T MEAN TO BELABOR THIS, BUT IT'S A BIG DEAL TO MY CONSTITUENTS TO KNOW WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS. WE ARE GOING TO GET THIS DONE. WE DO HAVE THE FUNDS FOR IT. IT'S BEEN AN ORDEAL OF EPIC PROPORTIONS, BUT WE NEVER GAVE UP. WE ARE MOVING FORWARD. I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE AS SHE ARTICULATED THE CONTRACT SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU ARE ON THAT. WE PUTTHAT ON -- >> THAT EVALUATION HAS NOT BEEN
COMPLETED. >> THAT'S WHY I PUT SUBJECT TO.
I'M HOPING Y'ALL CAN GET THAT DONE FAIRLY QUICKLY TO KEEP THE PROCESS MOVING. THE HOPE IS AS SOON AS JENNY AMOVES IT, THE JUDGE WILL SIGN IT, AND THEN WE WILL BE ABLE TO ISSUE A NOTICE TO PROCEED ON THAT PROJECT QUICKLY. SO THAT'S MY MOTION.
>> SO, HAS THE ARCHITECTURAL WORK --
>> I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. >> SORRY.
>> THAT'S OKAY. >> CLK HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT, AND THEY HAVE BEEN PART OF THE TEAM.
>> JUST A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY? >> YES, SIR, THAT'S CORRECT.
>> GOTCHA. SOUNDS GOOD. >> ARCHITECT, RIGHT?
>> YES, SIR. >> DO WE PICK TWO OTHERS
ALREADY? >> NO, THEY ARE THE ARCHITECT.
>> THE OTHER ONE BEFORE THEM? >> THE ENGINEER WAS JACOBS ENGINEERING. BEEN A YEAR NOW, CAME OVER AND TOOK IT OVER IN OPEN COURT. CLK TOOK THAT OVER, AND THEY HAVE BEEN IN VERY -- BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN HELPING US GET THIS DONE. THEY HAVE BEEN A REALLY BIG ASSET AS HAS LAND AND MANY PEOPLE.
>> I THOUGHT WE HAD ANOTHER ARCHITECT?
>> JACOBS ENGINEERING. THEY ENGINEERED IT, AND IT WASN'T --
>> WE PAID THEM FOR THAT, I GUESS?
>> WE PAID JACOBS. THEY DID A PARTIAL. THEY DID THE ORIGINAL, BUT THEY DIDN'T DO THE FINAL DESIGN. THAT'S WHAT IT GOT STOPPED. WHEN THE FUNDING CAME IN TO PLAY, INSTEAD OF GOING
BACK TO JACOBS, WE WENT TO CLK. >> OKAY.
>> DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> YES.
>> DOES THAT ANSWER? >> WHATEVER WE PAID THEM, IT'S A
LOSS BECAUSE OF JACOBS. >> ON WHAT THEY DID ORIGINALLY,
YES, SIR, THAT'S CORRECT. >> OKAY.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION -- GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER.
>> JACOBSON IS STILL INVOLVED AND HELPING WITH THE ENGINEERING SIDE ON THE PIER. PIER ONLY, RIGHT. PIER ONLY.
>> SO, COMMISSIONER, APPRECIATE YOU MENTIONING IT A LOT THEY HAD QUESTIONS WITH THIS PROJECT, AND I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO BE ASKED.
CONTINGENCY, IT WAS ALREADY INCLUDED?
>> YES, SIR. >> THIS IS NOT AN ADDITIONAL COST. WE DON'T SEE THIS INFLATING THE COST OVERALL? WE
ALREADY BUDGETED FOR THIS? >> WE HAD A VERY LARGE CONTINGENCY. AS YOU KNOW, I'VE ADDED A DECISIONAL DOLLARS, BEING COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME OST US MORE TO DO THIS THAN WE HAD IT UNDER CONTRACT FOR. THIS IS ADDITIONAL COST, BUT IT'S IN CONTINGENCY AND ADDITIONAL PRECINCT FUNDS I HAVE PUT INTO THE PROJECT. ARPA, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
>> OKAY, SO -- >> THIS PROJECT IS OVER BUDGET.
>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. >> THIS IS OVER THE ORIGINAL 3.2 MILLION DEDUCTIVE CHANGE ORDER WE DID WITH CALEN BECAUSE CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE GONE UP AND BECAUSE OF CALEN -- I'M TRYING TO BE AS NICE AS I CAN TO CALEN, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT AND BAILED ON IT, AND WE HAVE HAD TO MAKE DO.
FORTUNATELY WE HAD A LARGE CONTINGENCY IN THE OVERALL CONTRACT, AND THEN I'VE ADDED A DECISIONAL FUNDS THROUGH THIS COURT, WITH THIS COURT'S APPROVAL OF PRECINCT FOUR FUNDS AS WELL. I DON'T -- IF THAT'S NOT ANSWERING, TELL ME, AND I
WILL TRY IT AGAIN. >> I THINK IT IS. I THINK THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO SAY, HEY, THERE WAS THIS AMOUNT WHEN WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT IT, AND IT JUMPED UP. I GET IT. TALKING ABOUT MATERIAL COSTS AND STUFF HAPPENS, AND CONTRACTORS PULL
OUT FOR VARIOUS REASONS. >> IT'S COSTING US MORE MONEY.
>> I THINK YOUR EXPLANATION HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR. I HOPE WHOEVER IS WATCHING THIS TODAY, THEY WILL UNDERSTAND THOSE ARE THE REASONS WHY. I PLAN TO ACCEPT IT. YOU HAVE BROUGHT EVERYTHING BEFORE US. YOU HAVE BEEN VERY TRANSPARENT IN EVERYTHING THAT HAS HAPPENED. YOU HAVE TRIED TO BUILD A CONTINGENCY, BUT THIS IS MORE THAN WHAT WE ORIGINALLY -- WHAT WE THOUGHT, WHAT YOU
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THOUGHT. WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE COURT. THERE'S THE AMOUNT,>> LESSONS LEARNED. YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T JUMP ON A PROJECT SOON, IT WILL CHANGE ON YOU FOR A VARIOUS AMOUNT OF REASONS, AND WE HAVE ALL APPROVED IT PRIOR. THIS IS JUST TO MAKE THIS OFFICIAL, AND FINAL NOTICE TO THE COMMUNITY WHY WE ARE DOING
>> SO THE LOSS -- I'M SORRY. THE LOSS WAS $3 MILLION?
>> NO. THE ORIGINAL DEDUCTED CHANGE ORDER WE DID WITH CALEN WAS $3.2 MILLION AND SOME CHANGE, AND THAT INCLUDES THE COUNTY CONCESSION AND THIS RESTAURANT SPACE. THIS IS FOR 3.7 AND SOME CHANGE, ALMOST 3.8. THE ADDITIONAL COST BECAUSE THE FIRST CONTRACTOR SAID WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO IT, IS THAT. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. SO IT IS 550? AND THAT IS BEING COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT. IT'S COST US MORE. THAT'S AN ISSUE WE ARE GOING TO DEAL WITH LATER WITH THE CONTRACTOR, BUT FOR NOW I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THAT BUILT.
>> BEING COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT, THAT'S ADDITIONAL TIME BY OUR TEAM. THAT'S A TON OF TIME, MY TIME DOESN'T COUNT, BUT ADDITIONAL TIME. IT'S -- YOU KNOW --
>> WE ARE FINDING THAT IN A LOT OF OUR PROJECTS, YOU KNOW.
HILLTOP, PUTTING IT OFF AND REDOING IT.
>> WE DID THAT LATER WITH THE CONTRACTOR. THE PRIOR
[6. Discuss and consider increasing all Nueces County hangar airport leases by 10% and accepting the following lease agreements for FY 2025-2026 1. Hangar T-7 - David Rasmussen - $198 Monthly 2. Hangar T-13 - Mark Rock - $275 Monthly 3. Hangar T-14 - Mark Harrison - $275 Monthly 4. Hangar T-15 - Thomas Perrigue - $275 Monthly 5. Hangar T-19 - Josh Hopkins - $275 Monthly]
CONTRACTOR. >> LESSONS LEARNED.
>> FOR NOW, TRYING TO GET IT BUILT.
>> SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> DON'T WORRY. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER SIX, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER INCREASING ALL NUECES COUNTY HANGAR AIRPORT LEASES BY 10%. I BELIEVE WE HAD
[7. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving execution of an Agreement with Syn-Tech Systems, Inc., for FUELMASTER® Fuel Management Systems the County Airport; and related matters.]
SOME OF THESE ON THE LAST AGENDA. THESE ARE SOME OF THE FOLLOWING ONES, THE SAME PRICE I THINK Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY APPROVED. I SIGNED SOME LAST TIME. I MAKE THE MOTION TO>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. AYE ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM SEVEN, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING EXECUTION OF AN AGREEMENT WITH SYN-TECH SYSTEMS FOR A FUELMASTER AND FUEL MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS AT THE COUNTY AIRPORT, AND COMMISSIONER PUSLEY, I
BELIEVE YOU PUT THIS ON? >> YES, MA'AM. THIS IS A CONTRACT THAT WE WANT TO EXECUTE. WE HAVE A -- DUE TO OUR WORK WITH SYN-TECH IN THE PAST, AND COMMISSIONER MAREZ HEAVILY INVOLVED AND INSTRUMENTAL IN THIS, WE HAVE A VERY, VERY NICE FUELING SYSTEM DOWN AT OUR AIRPORT. WE USED TO HAVE A TANK IN THE GROUND WITH A FUELING STATION AND A FUEL PUMP ON IT.
NOW WE HAVE A VERY SOPHISTICATED SYSTEM THAT TECH HELPED TO PAY FOR THIS IS A SYSTEM TO MANAGE THAT. THEY COME OUT ON A REGULAR BASIS TO INSPECT AND FIX ANY PROBLEMS. IF WE HAVE PROBLEMS, WE CAN CALL THEM, AND THEY WILL COME OUT AND TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE. SO THE AIRPORT BOARD MET AND DISCUSSED THIS EXTENSIVELY, AND THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS, SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
[8. Discuss and consider exceptions to the sending and receiving of electronic (EFT) payments, and all related matters]
>> GO AHEAD. A MOTION AND A SECOND. THIS HAS GONE THROUGH PROCUREMENT AND COUNTY ATTORNEY? EVERYBODY IS NODDING THEIR HEADS. WE ARE GOOD. MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER EXCEPTIONS TO THE SENDING AND RECEIVING OF ELECTRONIC EFT PAYMENTS AND ALL RELATED MATTERS. IT CAME UP
HAS TAKEN THE LEAD ON THIS ITEM? >> YES, MA'AM. AT THE LAST COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 24TH, A MOTION WAS MADE TO RATIFY JUDGE SCOTT'S DECISION NOT TO ISSUE ANY WIRES FOR VENDORS UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE UNTIL A COMPLETE REVIEW OF THE ENTIRE PROCESS COULD BE COMPLETED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PAYROLL. THE COURT HAD ALSO ASKED FOR A LISTING OF ELECTRONIC PAYMENTS AND DEPOSITS THAT THE COUNTY CURRENTLY SENDS AND RECEIVES. THAT LIST HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET.
SINCE THE LAST MEETING, I HAVE RECEIVED MANY COMMENTS FROM INDIVIDUALS INCLUDING ELECTED OFFICIALS REGARDING ELECTRONIC PAYMENTS, AND I UNDERSTAND EVERYONE'S CONCERNS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE CONVERSATION, AND I DID SOME RESEARCH ON BEST PRACTICES THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH Y'ALL. FIRST OF ALL, I DISCOVERED THERE'S NOT ONE FORM OF PAYMENT THAT IS 100%
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SECURE. THERE ARE PROS AND CONS OF USING PAPER CHECKS AS WELL AS ELECTRONIC PAYMENTS. ORGANIZATIONS NEED TO USE WHAT THEY FEEL IS THE SAFEST. WITH SAFETY MEASURES, OF COURSE, BEING PUT IN PLACE. SO ON MONDAY, I ATTENDED A WEBINAR THAT WAS PUT ON BY THE INSTITUTE OF FINANCE AND MANAGEMENT THAT STATED THAT PAPER CHECKS ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE METHOD OF PAYMENT. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IT REALLY MAKES SENSE BECAUSE ON THAT PIECE OF PAPER THAT YOU'RE SENDING IN THE MAIL, YOU HAVE ALL OF YOUR BANKING ACCOUNT INFORMATION, THE ROUTEING NUMBER, THE ACCOUNT NUMBER, THE SIGNER ON THE ACCOUNT AND THE NAME ON THE ACCOUNT. YOU DROP IT IN THE MAIL, AND YOU'RE GIVING IT TO A THIRD PARTY TO DELIVER TO SOMEONE ELSE, AND IF THAT GETS INTERCEPTED OR LOST IN THE MAIL, A BAD ACTOR IS WHAT THEY CALL THEM, ARE PEOPLE WHO CAN ALTER THE PAYEE AND CREATE THEIR OWN CHECKS WITH YOUR BANK ACCOUNT INFORMATION. THIS ORGANIZATION NOTED THAT 79% OF BUSINESSES WERE VICTIMS OF ATTEMPTED OR ACTUAL FRAUD IN 2024 WITH CHECK FRAUD ATTEMPTS SEEING THE SIGNIFICANT ACTIVITY IN '24 WITH 63% OF THE BUSINESSES REPORTING THIS TYPE OF FRAUD.THE ORGANIZATION RECOMMENDS ELECTRONIC FORMS OF PAYMENT. I ALSO CHECKED WITH THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICER'S ASSOCIATION CALLED GFOA WHO IS THE STANDARD FOR GOVERNMENTS, AND THEY RECOMMEND THE BEST PRACTICE FOR GOVERNMENTS TO USE ELECTRONIC PAYMENTS FOR ALL PAYMENTS FOR A MULTITUDE OF REASONS INCLUDING THE ELIMINATION OF THE OCCURRENCE OF LOST OR STOLEN CHECKS AS THE OTHER ENTITY HAD MENTIONED, THE REDUCED REDUCTION OF SECURITY RISK, THE NEED TO ELIMINATE STORAGE OF PAPER, THE HANDLING AND PROCESSING PAPER CHECKS, AND REDUCING THE TIME SPENT ON RECONCILIATIONS, BUT AGAIN, THEY, TOO, STRESS THAT INTERNAL CONTROLS MUST BE IN PLACE. THEY WENT ON TO SAY THAT GOVERNMENTS NEED TO REVIEW AND MAKE CHANGES TO THEIR BUSINESS PROCESSES, SAFEGUARDS, AND INTERNAL CONTROLS AS WELL. A DETAILED ACH POLICY SHOULD BE DEVELOPED. EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE EDUCATED, EMPOWERED TO BE RESPONSIBLY SUSPICIOUS REGARDING PAYMENTS AND PAYMENT TYPE CHANGES. EMPLOYEES NEED TO BE ENCOURAGED TO QUESTION THINGS, AND TRAINING SHOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE TO EMPLOYEES ON SOCIAL ENGINEERING AND THESE TYPE OF ACH FRAUD SCREENS. THAT WEBINAR I ATTENDED ON MONDAY SAID BUSINESS E-MAIL COMPROMISES, BEC, WAS THE LEADING PAYMENT FRAUD IN 2024 WITH THIRD PARTY IMPERSONATION BEING THE MOST COMMON TYPE OF BUSINESS E-MAIL SCAMS. FOR NUECES COUNTY FOR ME THAT HIT HOME BECAUSE IT SHOWED WE WERE NOT ALONE IN WHAT HAPPENED TO US EARLIER THIS YEAR. THESE TYPES OF PHISHING SCAMS RANKED THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT FROM THE FBI CALLED IC3 RECORD, AN INTERNAL CRIME COMPLAINT CENTER. FOR THE COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE, IT WAS A WAKEUP CALL. THE COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE HAS NOW PUT IN PLACE WRITTEN PROCEDURES SINCE I HAVE BEEN THERE, FOR SETTING UP SUPPLIERS BY ACCOUNTS PAYABLE, AND STAFF IMPACTED BY THIS HAS HAD THE POLICY REVIEWED WITH THEM, AND THEY HAVE SIGNED THE POLICY UNDERSTANDING IT.
>> HOLD ON ONE SECOND. HOLD. SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.
>> IT'S OKAY. >> WHAT ARE YOU READING FROM?
>> MY SCRIPT. >> SHE'S JUST TALKING. THE BACKUP IS THIS IN YOUR AGENDA. SHE DID A SEMINAR IS WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT. THEY WERE SEARCHING FOR WHAT YOU WERE
SAYING. >> I'M JUST WROTE SO I
WOULDN'T FORGET WHAT TO SAY. >> SO SHE WOULDN'T FORGET COMMENTS. THERE'S NOTHING BUT THE BACKUP IN HERE.
>> PART OF THAT IS THE BACKUP INFORMATION IN THE AGENDA PACKET
AS WELL. >> SORRY. I KNEW THEY WERE
SEARCHING. >> I CAN SHARE THIS AFTERWARDS.
>> THAT WOULD BE GOOD. >> I.T. HAS ANNUAL CYBER SECURITY TRAINING, AND EMPLOYEES ARE ENCOURAGED TO QUESTION DEPARTMENTS EVEN DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS WHEN THEY COME TO US ASKING FOR CHANGES TO BE MADE. SO YOU CAN CONCLUDE THERE'S NO ONE THAT CAN GUARANTEE THAT EITHER TYPE OF PAYMENT METHOD CAN PREVENT -- 100% OF THE TIME, BUT BASED ON WHAT I'VE FOUND, ELECTRONIC PAYMENTS WITH ETERNAL PROCESSES IN PLACE IS THE SAFEST FORM OF PAYMENT. BECAUSE OF THAT THE COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND I IN PARTICULAR, AM RECOMMENDING THAT NUECES COUNTY RETURN TO FUEL OWE TILLIZATION OF ELECTRONIC PAYMENTS.
>> WHAT ARE THE PROCESSES YOU HAVE DONE SINCE OUR INCIDENT TO MAKE US FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THIS WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN?
>> YES, MA'AM. WE NOW HAVE A WRITTEN PROCEDURE IN PLACE FOR
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OUR ACCOUNTS PAYABLE DEPARTMENT. THE EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN TRAINED AND SIGNED OFF ON THE POLICY THEY UNDERSTAND. NO CHANGES CAN BE MADE WITHOUT THE COUNTY AUDITOR OR FIRST ASSISTANT APPROVING IT. NO STAFFERS CAN GO IN AND MAKE A CHANGE IN THESYSTEM. >> BANKING INFORMATION?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THEY CAN'T MAKE CHANGES T HAS TO BE THE AUDITOR OR FIRST ASSISTANT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THEY MAKE IT OR SIGN OFF ON
IT. >> THE EMPLOYEE WILL RECOMMEND IT, BUT THEN IT HAS TO BE APPROVED AND IMPLEMENTED IN THE SYSTEM BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR OR THE FIRST ASSISTANT.
>> THEY IMPLEMENT IT, TOO? >> YES, MA'AM.
>> THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. >> YES.
>> JENNY, MY UNDERSTANDING OF A LOST CHECK IS THAT IF SOMEONE -- OR STOLEN CHECK, IS THAT IF YOU STEAL MY CHECK AND THE BANK CASHES A CHECK FROM SOMEBODY THAT'S THE SHIFTING OF LIABILITY ISSUE ON THE LOST OR STOLEN CHECKS VERSES WIRES. IF WE WIRE IT WRONG, IT'S ON US, 100%. THAT MONEY THAT WENT AWAY BECAUSE WHOEVER DIDN'T FOLLOW THEIR PROCEDURE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW A REPORT ON WHO DID THAT AND WHAT WERE THE CONSEQUENCES FOR THAT PERSON, TOO. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT OR THOSE PEOPLE WHO DID THAT, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IF SOMEONE STEALS A CHECK AND THE BANK CASHES THAT CHECK FROM A PERSON WHO IS NOT AUTHORIZED TO HAVE THE CHECK CASHED, THAT'S ON THE BANK. THERE'S A LIABILITY ISSUE BETWEEN LOST AND STOLEN CHECKS AND WIRES. THAT'S A BIG DEAL TO ME BECAUSE, AGAIN, AND I CAN BE OUTVOTED, BUT I'M NOT VOTING TO RETURN WIRES REGARDLESS OF CONSTANCE'S WONDERFUL RESEARCH. I DON'T AGREE. I THINK THERE'S A LIABILITY ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE ADDRESSED ON THIS. IF SOMEONE STEALS A CHECK, I DON'T THINK THAT'S ON US IF THE BANK CASHES A STOLEN CHECK. I THINK THAT'S ON THE BANK WHO STOLE IT. IF WE WIRE MONEY WRONG BECAUSE OF PHISHING OR WHATEVER, AND WE WIRE -- I DON'T EVEN WANT TO SAY HOW MUCH MONEY WE WIRE OUT OF THIS COUNTY. I TALKED TO KEVIN THIS WEEKEND, AND IT'S WITH A B. IF WE ARE GOING TO BE ATTACKED REGULARLY IN THIS COUNTY ON WIRES, IF SOMEONE STEALS A CHECK AND THE BANK CASHES IT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S ON NUECES COUNTY. IT'S ON THE BANK. THAT'S THE LIABILITY SHIFT THEY THINK NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED VERY, VERY QUICKLY BEFORE WE UNDO ANYTHING WE HAVE DONE.
>> COMMISSIONER, CAN I MAKE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR YOU? THE SITUATION WITH NUECES COUNTY, THE COUNTY DID NOT WIRE TWO -- LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY. IT WAS A PHISHING SCAM. SOMEONE DIDN'T COME IN TO OUR SYSTEM AND HACK OUR SYSTEM.
>> I DIDN'T SAY THAT. >> I'M JUST SAYING. IT WAS A PROCESS WE DID NOT HAVE IN PLACE PRIOR TO ME BEING IN THE OFFICE.
THE EMPLOYEES THAT WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR -- ULTIMATELY ARE NO LONGER WITH NUECES COUNTY, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW
THAT. >> I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO
KNOW. >> IT HASN'T BEEN SAID BEFORE, BUT THOSE PEOPLE ARE NO LONGER --
>> IF I MISSED IT -- >> IT'S NOT BEEN SAID BEFORE.
>> I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT. I DID NOT KNOW THAT.
>> UH-UH. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW IT WAS A PHISHING SCAM, AN E-MAIL THAT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED IF PROPER POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WERE IN PLACE AT THAT TIME.
>> I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND, AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY --
>> SO THESE -- >> BEST POLICIES HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED, AND THE AMOUNTS OF MONEY THAT WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO WIRE IS RIPE WITH POTENTIAL FOR -- I'M NOT ACCUSING ANYBODY, BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE WIRING ON A REGULAR BASIS, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY TEMPTING TO EVEN THE MOST HONEST OF PEOPLE TO DO THINGS THAT COULD BE VERY SCARY. AND I'M HOPING THAT THAT PERSON WHO DID IT BEFORE JUST MADE A MISTAKE, BUT THAT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE MISTAKE. WHEREAS IF SOMEONE STEAL AS CHECK, I DON'T THINK THAT MISTAKE FALLS BACK ON THE TAXPAYERS OF NUECES COUNTY. I THINK IT FALLS ON THE BANK THAT CASHES THE CHECK THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN CASHED. I WILL REFER TO JENNY'S LEGAL OPINION ON THAT WHEN SHE GETS
IT. >> ONE MORE POINT, I DON'T MEAN TO BELABOR IT, PAPER CHECKS, I CAN TALK SEPARATELY, THERE'S AVENUES THAT DEFINITELY COULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN THAT SOMEONE COULD HAVE TAKEN A PAPER CHECK AS WELL. I CAN TELL YOU THAT
OFFLINE. >> SURE. ABSOLUTELY. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S A STOLEN CHECK THAT IF A BANK CASHES IT.
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>> I'M NOT TALKING STOLEN, SIR. I WILL TELL YOU LATER OFFLINE.
>> PARDON ME? >> I WILL TELL YOU OFFLINE.
>> I'M ALSO TOLD BY SOME OF THE OTHER ELECTED DEPARTMENTS THAT THEY WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, HIGH VOLUME PRINTERS,
BUILDING MACHINE, POSTAGE. >> STAFFING.
>> STAFFING FOR THIS KIND OF CHANGE AS WELL. I DON'T DISAGREE IT'S A MAJOR ISSUE, AND WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. I WOULD LIKE TO GET JENNY'S ANSWER TO GET THE ANSWER FOR THAT, BUT I REALLY SEE THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE -- WE'RE NOT A SMALL COMPANY. WE'RE NOT A SMALL ENTITY. WE HAVE LOTS OF REVENUE AND LOTS OF THINGS GOING, WHICH OPENS US UP BY ALL MEANS. I THINK ANYONE MOVING FORWARD, IF WE CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD, SHOULD ALSO HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT POLICY BECAUSE THEN A COUPLE OF THESE DEPARTMENTS, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BANKING INFORMATION AND CHECKING ACCOUNTS AND I THINK YOU AUDIT IT AT THE END OF THE YEAR, BUT YOU DON'T MAKE THEIR PAYMENTS FOR THEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
>> I WILL DEFER TO LORENZO ON THAT. I THINK THEY GO THROUGH TREASURY. DO THEY GO THROUGH TREASURY, LORENZO?
>> WE HAVE AMERICAN BANK THAT SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS USE TO DELIVER FUNDS BACK INTO OUR BANK. THAT WAS NOT HANDLED BY MY
DEPARTMENT. >> IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A ACCOUNT
>> AND COMMISSIONER MAREZ, I'M SORRY, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OR
COMMENT, I'M SORRY. >> YOUR RECOMMENDATION TAKES US BACK TO HOW WE WERE OPERATING BEFORE WITH SAFEGUARDS, WITH ADDITIONAL SAFEGUARDS? PAPER DOESN'T PROTECT US UNFORTUNATELY. IT'S VERY THIN. IT CAN BE RIPPED UP EASILY, THROWN AWAY IN THE TRASH. BUT I GET IT. WE HAVE TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE, SOMETHING WRITTEN. I AM CONCERNED. WE ARE A BIG COMPANY, BUT THERE'S BIGGER COMPANIES THAN US THAT HAVE FALLEN VICTIM TO THIS. PRIVATE, PUBLIC SECTOR. IT'S JUST THE REALITY. THIS IS WHAT THE ONGOING COST OF GOVERNMENT AND OPERATIONS IS AND WHAT IT MEANS AND WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE AND PASS A ROBUST BUDGET THAT COVERS ALL OF THOSE COSTS. WE AS LOCAL POLICYMAKERS NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT, AND OUR STATE DELEGATION NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THEY PUT CONSTRAINTS ON US AS A COUNTY. I THINK IT'S WORTH SAYING IT EVERY CHANCE WE GET.
ASIDE FROM THAT -- >> WE ALL AGREE.
>> WE NEED TO BE REALISTIC THAT WE ARE REACTING AS FAST AS WE CAN. RIGHT? OF COURSE STAFF DID. THEY HAD TO, RIGHT? THEY TOOK THE STEPS. WITH GOT THE UPDATE AS FAST AS WE COULD AS A COURT AND RESPONDED TO TRY TO STAND -- TO KIND OF STOP THE HEMORRHAGING, WHICH WE THINK WE DID. WE FOUND OUT THERE WAS A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES BY OUR POLICY WHAT THAT HAD IMPLICATIONS FOR. THAT'S MY CONCERN. I'M GLAD THE JUDGE AND YOU CONSTANCE, BROUGHT THIS ON TO THE AGENDA TO DEAL WITH BECAUSE I THINK YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS WHAT WE NEED TO GET EVERYTHING IN LINE, ALL THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE HAVE GOING IN TO A NEW FISCAL YEAR HAVE FOUND, AND SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES, I KNOW, ARE DISCOVERING AND WE HAVE BEEN DISCOVERING OVER THE LAST WEEK OR SO. I WILL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. I THINK AS LONG AS THIS HELPS CURTAIL AND COVER ISSUES, ANYTHING DEALING WITH BENEFITS, RIGHT? WITH HR, WITH TRANSITIONS WE HAVE DONE, WITH OUR TRANSFER OVER TO A NEW INSURANCE PROVIDER, PREMIUMS FOR MEDICAL, DENTAL, ACCIDENTAL, LIFE, FLEX, CARD, ALL OF THAT, IF THAT IS ALL COVERED BY THIS POLICY, I WHOLE HEARTEDLY SUPPORT IT BECAUSE WE JUST HAVE TO BECAUSE WE ARE IN A TREMENDOUS BIND THAT IF WE DO PAPER CHECKS OR THIS CURRENT POLICY, IT IS CAUSING PROBLEMS, SO WE HAVE TO GET THIS SPED UP SO WE DON'T HAVE ADDITIONAL ISSUES THAT OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE OR INDEPENDENTS HAVE TO FIGHT THROUGH WITH BUREAUCRACY TO GET DONE. THAT'S MY CONCERN. I WILL LIKE I SAID WHOLE HEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS POLICY CHANGE.
>> I AGREE. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
>> COMMISSIONER? >> YEAH, JUST REAL QUICKLY, AND
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I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MAREZ'S COMMENTS. AS A PERSON WHO SUPPORTS I.T. FOR SAVING TIME, MONEY, AND EFFORT ON EVERYBODY'S PART, IT'S HARD FOR ME NOT TO SUPPORT DOING THESE ELECTRONIC TRANSFERS, BUT I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT WE'VE ADOPTED A POLICY THAT WE ARE GOING TO LIVE BY AND LIVE BY STRICTLY, AND THAT EMPLOYEES WHO WORK IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS HAVE SIGNED A DOCUMENT STATING THEY UNDERSTAND IF THEY VIOLATE THAT POLICY, THEY ARE GOING TO BE IN BIG TROUBLE.>> THAT'S THE COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE, BUT WE WILL SHARE IT
COUNTY WIDE. >> I THINK THAT'S WHAT HAVE TO DO. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE POLICIES IN PLACE ALLOWING US TO DO THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONDUCT BUSINESS AS EFFICIENTLY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. SO -- AND THE COMMENT ABOUT THE INSURANCE PART, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW WE ARE COVERED FOR INSURANCE ON THESE KIDS OF DEALS, AND HOPEFULLY WHEN WE BRING A NEW I.T. DIRECTOR IN, WE CAN ALSO IMPLEMENT SOME POLICIES THAT WILL HELP TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THESE PHISHING ISSUES THAT ARE COMING IN HERE AS WELL.
>> JUST TO ADDRESS ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT FISCAL YEAR '25 WAS ONE OF THE FIRST YEARS WE HAD CYBER SECURITY INSURANCE.
>> YEAH. >> THAT WAS NEW THIS LAST YEAR.
>> YEAH, OKAY. I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION WHEN WE HAVE ABOUT WHAT THAT COVERS, HOW MUCH IT COVERS, YOU KNOW, ALL OF
THE AS, BS, AND CS ABOUT THAT. >> UH-UH.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAD.
>> DO YOU WANT US TO BRING THIS BACK AFTER EXECUTIVE, GIVING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TIME TO ANSWER THE QUESTION THEN? I THINK WE ARE READY TO VOTE? DOESN'T NEED TO BE HELD OFF ANY LONGER? JUST LET HER ANSWER THE COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS. SHE CAN ANSWER HIM DIRECTLY OR REPORT TO US ALL.
>> DO YOU NEED HR? >> YOU MIGHT -- HAVING HR'S
INPUT MAY HELP -- >> I SEE HIM AT THE BACK. MAY HAVE WALKED IN ON THE END OF THE CONVERSATION, BUT IF YOU WILL GO TO THE PODIUM, MR. WHITE. WE WERE DISCUSSING THE COUNTYWIDE POLICY FOR THE PAPER CHECKS OR EFTS. WHAT YOU HAD A QUESTION
FOR HIM? I'M SORRY? >> I WAS JUST KIND OF MENTIONING THAT OUR PREVIOUS POLICY ACTION THAT WE TOOK HAD UNFORSEEN COMPLEXITY TO PROCESSING AND CHANGING OVER, KIND OF PERFECT TOMORROW WHERE WE WERE MOVING TO WE JUST DIDN'T HELP OURSELVES BY PUSHING FOR PAPER. I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO MUCH INTO DETAILS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION OR NOT. YOU CAN CONFIRM THAT WE HAD SOME PROBLEMS. HAD WE HAD AN ELECTRONIC FUND TRANSFER, THAT PRY WOULD HAVE HELPED TO SPEED UP SOME OF THE TRANSITIONING THAT WE HAD, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT, SIR. GREAT EXAMPLE FOR THAT IS THE FLEXIBLE SPENDING ACCOUNT CARDS. IF IT WAS ELECTRONIC, THE ISSUE WOULD HAVE BEEN SETTLED. I KNOW WITH THE EXAMPLES FROM BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD AND ALSO BY THE HSA BANK REPRESENTATIVES, SIGNIFICANT DELAYS PAYMENT WHEN A PAPER CHECK IS SENT OUT BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE SENT TO THE PROCESSING CENTER, ADDING ANOTHER 48 HOURS TO THE PAYMENT BEING PROCESSED, AND AS FAR AS THE FLEXIBLE SPENDING ACCOUNTS, THAT ISSUE, FORGIVE ME IF I MISSED YOU DECIDING ON THAT, BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN DECIDED YET, THOSE CARDS HAVE NOT BEEN SENT TO FOLKS WHO MAY HAVE BEEN DEPENDING UPON THEM AT THIS POINT IN THE MONTH.
>> BUT WE ARE WORKING ON IT? AND IT SHOULD BE RESOLVED HOPEFULLY?
>> YES, THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE THE ONE WHO STILL HAS A QUESTION. DO YOU WANT US TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER EXECUTIVE TO BRING IT FOR A VOTE? ARE YOU
OKAY? >> NO, YOU CAN CALL VOTE
WHATEVER YOU WANT. >> WELL -- I'M NOT --
>> I DON'T CARE. >> I KNOW, I AGREE. I GET THE VOTES ARE THERE. I'M GOING TO VOTE NO FOREVER AND EVER ON THIS. I'M NOT CHANGING. Y'ALL DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO. I WILL BE ON RECORD VOTING NO WHEN WE LOSE THE NEXT $2 MILLION.
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>> THANK YOU. >> WE APPRECIATE IT. I WILL VOTE TO GO BACK TO OUR ORIGINAL POLICY WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE POLICIES PUT IN PLACE IN F THEY HAVE NOT DONE SO, THEY DON'T DO EFTS UNTIL THEY HAVE ADOPTED A POLICY WOULD BE MY MOTION.
>> OKAY. >> I WILL SECOND THAT, BUT WITH ONE QUICK QUESTION. AND THIS IS NO KNOCK ON CONSTANCE WHATSOEVER, BUT I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE HIRED A NEW --
>> YES. >> AUDITOR? OKAY, HAVE WE DISCUSSED THIS ISSUE WITH THE NEW NEW AUDITOR? SHOULD WE WAIT
WITH RESPECT TO THIS? >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT. I KNOW THE NEW AUDITOR, AND HE'S VERY --
>> THINK HE WOULD SUPPORT THIS? >> YES. OKAY, I WITHDRAW MY
QUESTION. I SECOND THE MOTION. >> YES. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED?
>> NO. >> SURPRISE. FOUR AYES AND ONE NO. MOTION PASSES WITH THE STRONG INPUT AS WE STATED IN THIS MOTION, IF YOU DO THOSE KINDS OF TRANSFERS, WHETHER A TAX ASSESSOR, COLLECTOR, TREASURY, OR WHATEVER, YOU IMPLEMENT THE SAME POLICY OR SIMILAR POLICY TO PROTECT THE
[9. Discuss and consider approving the filing of the Fiscal Year 2023-2024 Annual Comprehensive Financial Report (ACFR) with the Commissioners Court as per Section 114.025 (b) of the Local Government Code and all related matters. ]
COUNTY, YES. ITEM NUMBER NINE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE FILING OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2023-2024 ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT WITH THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. I BELIEVE IT'S YOUR ITEM. WE HAVE TO APPROVE THIS.>> I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THE AUDIT WAS COMPLETED. I HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IT WAS A PAINFUL PROCESS, AND IT WAS THE FIRST AUDIT DONE AFTER THE IMPLEMENTATION OF WORKDAY. IT WAS QUITE CHALLENGING. WE FOUND A LOT OF CORRECTIONS THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE. I DO WANT TO THANK OUR EXTERNAL AUDITORS BECAUSE THEY REALLY WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND TO HELP US GET THIS AUDIT COMPLETED BY SEPTEMBER THE 30TH. THERE WERE UNTHINKABLE HOURS THAT WERE WORKED BY THEM AND BY OUR STAFF, AND SO I WANT TO SEND A THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HELPED TO GET THIS COMPLETED.
TODAY WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE MAJOR TAKEAWAYS FROM THE AUDIT. EACH OF YOU RECEIVED AN ELECTRONIC COPY, BUT I DID PLACE ON THE DESK TODAY, A PHYSICAL COPY WHICH YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU.
SLIDE NUMBER TWO IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. I DO WANT TO LETS Y'ALL KNOW THAT NUECES COUNTY RECEIVED AN UNFAVORABLE OPINION THIS IS THE MOST FAVORABLE GIVEN. IT MEANS THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE PRESENTED FAIRLY IN ALL MATERIAL RESPECTS. JUST TO READ THE OTHER BULLETS. AUDITORS ENSURE THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR '24 HAVE MET ALL REQUIREMENTS FOR GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES. THE AUDITORS PERFORMED A TEST OF CONTROLS AND NOTED ALL CONTROLS WERE IN PLACE AND FUNCTIONING WELL. THEY ENSURED THAT THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICE ASSOCIATION AND REVIEW COMMENTS WE GOT AT LAST YEAR'S REVIEW AUDIT HAD BEEN ADDRESSED AND CORRECTED. BECAUSE OF THIS, WE DID SUBMIT THE ACFR TO GFOA FOR THIS AUDIT FOR FISCAL '24 FOR REVIEW, AND WE ARE HOPING WE WILL RECEIVE THE CERTIFICATE OF EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING FOR THIS AUDIT AS WELL. SO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. ON PAGE 12 OF THE AUDIT REPORT, IT SHOWS OUR COUNTY WIDE NET POSITION AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH WAS $126,933,365, AN INCREASE OF $12.8 MILLION FROM THE PRIOR YEAR. GOVERNMENTWIDE REVENUES ON PAGE SEVEN, AND THEY WERE $221.8 MILLION, A SLIGHT DECREASE FROM THE PRIOR YEAR, AND WE KNOW THAT WAS DUE TO OUR PROPERTY TAX SITUATION THAT WE HAD IN 2024. AND THEN OUR COUNTYWIDE EXPENSES WERE $209.1 MILLION, WHICH WAS ALSO A DECREASE BECAUSE WE WERE VERY CONSERVATIVE IN 2024, SO IN THAT LITTLE CIRCLE THERE, YOU'D SEE THAT WE HAD A NET INCREASE, NET POSITION OF $12.8 MILLION OR -- YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I KNOW FUND BALANCES ARE ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO EVERYONE. THESE ARE SOME OF THE MAJOR FUNDS, AND THESE SHOW AN INCREASE OR DECREASE IN THE FUND
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BALANCES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024. GENERAL FUND IS ALWAYS A BIG ITEM. WE KNOW WE HAD A DECREASE BECAUSE OF THE PROPERTY TAX SITUATION. WE STILL ENDED UP OUR FUND BALANCE -- WE HAD INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET 20 MILLION, 223527. WE WERE CLOSEWITH THE BUDGET WE PRESENTED. >> ESTIMATED?
>> YEAH, WE ESTIMATED WHAT WE WOULD END '24 IN. THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE ARE GOING TO TALK A LIT THE FURTHER ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND. THIS IS THE 25% TARGET WE HAVE THAT LITTLE TABLE ON THE LEFT SHOWS WHAT THE FUND BALANCE HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY, WHAT THE TARGET HAS BEEN, AND YOU CAN SEE FOR 2024, WE DIDN'T QUITE MAKE THE TARGET. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO CAUTIOUSLY REPORT THAT THIS, HOPEFULLY, WILL CHANGE IN 2025. I WILL LEAVE A LITTLE CLIFF H ANGER THERE. COULD WE MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE? $4.5MILLION FROM CC PALMERS IN LIEU OF TAXES WHICH HAD NOT BEEN BUDGETED, THANKS TO JUDGE SCOTT AND THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, A SALE OF LAND TO THE BOARD OF CORPUS CHRISTI AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER $14.1 MILLION. THIS IS GOING TO ADD TO THE FUND BALANCE, WHICH WILL REPORT PROBABLY I WOULD SAY LATER THIS YEAR, BUT NOVEMBER IS NEXT MONTH, SO IN THE NEXT FEW
>> YEAH, WE SHOULD BE IN GOOD SHAPE FOR 2025 AS FAR AS THE GENERAL FUND GOES. THAT'S GOOD NEWS WE CAN FINALLY REPORT. THEN THE NEXT SLIDE, OKAY, SO THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES SHOW THE SINGLE AUDIT. THE SINGLE AUDIT IS FOR OUR GRANTS. AND THAT IS THE SMALLER SPIRAL BOUND REPORT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU AS WELL. SO THE SINGLE -- GRANTS REQUIRED FOR AUDITS IN 2024 FOR ENTITIES SPENDING $750,000 OR MORE IN FEDERAL FUNDS IN A FISCAL YEAR. CALLED A SINGLE AUDIT BECAUSE IT COMBINES THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT WITH THE AUDIT OF COMPLIANCE. HAPPY TO REPORT THAT NUECES RECEIVED AN UNQUALIFIED OPINION, THE MOST FAVORABLE FOR OUR GRANTS FOR 2024. SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT WE HAD TWO MAJOR PROGRAMS, ONE FEDERAL ONE, THE CORONA STATE, LOCAL, FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDS, ARPA, AND STATE FUNDS, THE PUBLIC DEFENDER OFFICE WITH MENTAL HEALTH DIVISION. ALTHOUGH WE DID RECEIVE AN UNQUALIFIED OPINION, WE DID HAVE TWO MAJOR MATERIAL WEAKNESSES NOTED IN THE AUDIT.
THE FIRST ONE WAS THE TIMING OF THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, WHICH WE WERE -- THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRODUCED FOR THE GRANTS BY JUNE 30TH . IT WAS SEPTEMBER 30TH, AND THEN THE SECOND ONE WAS DUE TO SOFTWARE IMPLEMENTATION AND CHANGE IN PERSONNEL WITH THE RECORDING OF OUR GRANTS. WE FEEL THAT THESE ARE UNIQUE IN EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WILL NOT OCCUR AGAIN IN OR DID NOT OCCUR IN FISCAL '25. BASICALLY THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. I MEAN IT WAS A VERY GOOD AUDIT. IT WAS, LIKE I SAID, A PAINFUL AUDIT, BUT ONE THAT NEEDED TO BE COMPLETED AND HAS BEEN COMPLETED. WE CAN PUT IT BEHIND US AND MOVE FORWARD. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> THE PRESENTATION, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. >> MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THE MOTION PASSES WITH ONE COMMISSIONER
[10. Discuss and consider upcoming Commissioners Court meeting date(s), workshop date(s), and related matters.]
STEPPING OUT. AYE. ITEM NUMBER TEN, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER UPCOMING COMMISSIONER COURT MEETING DATES, WORKSHOP DATES, AND RELATED MATTERS. I WAS WONDERING, I HAVE A QUESTION IF WE COULD POTENTIALLY CANCEL THE NOVEMBER 19TH COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING. I KNOW IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS WE HAVE HAD ONE FOR NOVEMBER AND ONE FOR DECEMBER, AND I HAVE A CONFLICT ON THAT DAY. I WOULD ASK FOR IT TO BE CHANGED.>> WANT TO PICK ANOTHER DATE OR JUST CANCEL THE WHOLE MEETING?
>> WE HAVE THANKSGIVING THEN, TOO, SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO PICK ANOTHER DATE OR THEY ARE BACK TO BACK. IF WE CHANGE ONE IN NOVEMBER, WE USUALLY JUST DO ONE.
>> I'M GOOD. >> IS THAT ALL RIGHT? I MAKE A
MOTION TO CANCEL THE 19TH . >> I WILL SECOND, AND THEN QUESTION. SO OUR MEETING IS NOVEMBER 5TH ?
>> UH-UH. >> I KNOW THIS HAPPENED LAST YEAR, IT WAS THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION DAY. IT'S CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS, SO WHO WILL BE CELEBRATING OR
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MOURNING THAT, BUT WE SHOULD PROBABLY MAKE IT A PRACTICE TO>> AND THEN WE ALSO STILL HAVE TO CANVAS, USUALLY HAVE TO CANVAS STILL? EVEN THOUGH WE ONLY NEED TWO MEMBERS OF COURT,
MAYBE DO IT ALL. >> AND THEN YOU HAVE TO DO
ANOTHER MEETING. >> I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TO DO THAT FOR CONSTITUTIONAL ELECTIONS AD AD -- AS WELL?
>> ALL OF THEM. >> IF WE ARE GOING TO MEET A
WEEK LATER? >> WOULD YOU SUGGEST THE 12TH, GET RID OF THE 19TH AND MOVE IT --
>> I'M TALKING OUT LOUD. IT'S DANGEROUS. I HAVEN'T CHECKED TO
SEE. IT ALL SOUNDS GOOD. >> LET'S JUST --
>> I'M NOT HERE THE 12TH. >> OKAY, JUST LEAVE IT LIKE IT.
>> FOR NEXT YEAR. >> YEAH, WE DO NEED TO FOCUS ON THE DAY AFTER ELECTION, IT'S HARD ON ANY OF US. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CANCEL OUR NOVEMBER 19TH MEETING. ANY -- ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED?
>> CANCEL THE MEETING? >> MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON TO
[1. Discuss and consider approval of No Dune Protection Permit Determination for proposed construction of a 4,220 square foot (sq ft), three-story, large-scale, single-family residence on a lot in Porto Villageo (now Meraki Beach) in Port Aransas, Texas, 78373 – DPP-07212025.]
ITEM B. I SEE SCOTT HERE, AND HE USUALLY MAKES IT QUICK FOR US.COASTAL PARKS, B1. >> RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
>> TELL THEM WHAT IT IS. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF NO DUNE PROTECTION PERMIT DETERMINED FOR PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF A 4220 SQUARE FOOT THREE-STORY LARGE-SCALE, SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE ON A LOT IN PORTO VILLAGEO NOW MERAKI BEACH.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY
[2. Discuss and consider approval of Large-Scale No Dune Protection Permit Determination Request for the Nueces County Briscoe King Pavillion Renovation Project, Corpus Christi, TX DPP-20250627.]
OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. TWO, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A LARGE-SCALE NO DUNE PROTECTION PERMIT DETERMINATION REQUEST FOR THE NUECES COUNTY BRISCOE KINGPAVILION RENOVATION PROJECTS. >> INCLUDES THE RENOVATIONS TO OLD AND FOOTPRINT FOR THE NEW. I FIGURE QUESTIONS HERE, BUT I
RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> SECOND. >> ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, WHEN WILL THERE BE A PRESENTATION WHERE WE ARE ON THAT?
>> A MEETING TOMORROW MORNING. WE ARE AT 90%. WE CAN GET IT TO THE CITY DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES PLANNING REVIEW, AND ONCE WE GET THEIR OPINION, WE CAN GET IT PRESENTED AND OUT TO THE STREET.
>> CAN YOU PUT THAT ON OUR AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING SO
WE CAN SEE? >> YES, SIR, I CAN DO THAT.
>> WE CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE ON THAT REALLY COOL PROJECT.
>> WITH PICTURES, MAYBE, DIDN'T WE SAY BEFORE, COMMISSIONER?
>> THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE THE DUNE WALKOVER. I HAVE PLANS AND SPECS. I'M TRYING TO WAIT TO SEE HOW THE TRANSITION IS GOING
TO COME IN. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND, AND YOU'RE GOING TO BRING BACK. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. PASSES
UNANIMOUSLY. >> JUST MAKE SURE IT'S ON THE NEXT AGENDA FOR THE COURT TO SEE THE 90% DESIGN BEFORE IT GOES
OUT. >> I WON'T HAVE CITY OF DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES THAT FAST.
>> I WANT THE COURT TO SEE IT FIRST. I DON'T CARE, NO OFFENSE. IT'S OUR PROJECT, NOT THEIRS.
[3. Discuss and consider approval of Large-Scale No Dune Protection Permit Determination Request for applicant Nueces County Coastal Parks Department for the reconstruction of a Gulf Beach Access Road and associated paved ADA-compliant landing areas, DPP-08062025.]
>> BEING TRANSPARENT. >> NO, NO, NO.
>> DISCUSS AND CONSIDER, NUMBER THREE. APPROVAL OF LARGE-SCALE NO DUANE PROTECTION PERMIT DETERMINATION REQUEST FOR NUECES COUNTY COASTAL PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR THE RECONSTRUCTION OF GULF BEACH ACCESS ROAD AND ASSOCIATED PAVED ADA-COMPLIANT LANDING.
>> THERE'S THE ROAD, COMMISSIONER.
>> MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> AND IT'S GOT THE ADA ACCESS, SO WE CAN BE FULLY COMPLIANT WITH FEDERAL AND STATE ADA REGULATIONS AND FIRE SAFETY CODE
PER THE CITY FIRE MARSHAL. >> HAVE WE GOTTEN FINAL APPROVAL
>> YOU HAVE ALREADY -- >> THAT'S A BIG DEAL. I'M GOING TO STOP FOR A SECOND BECAUSE IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL TO ANYBODY ELSE, BUT IT'S A BIG DEAL FOR US. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS, AND THANKS TO THE JUDGE FOR HER HELP ON THIS
AS WELL. >> I THINK I E-MAILED YOU ALL, HELP ME GET TO TO THE FIRE MARSHAL.
>> CHIEF CALLED ME A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO TO MAKE SURE WE WERE GOOD ON IT, AND THEY APPROVED IT, AND THE GLOS APPROVED THIS.
THAT MEANS WE WILL HAVE A ROAD AND A LANDING AREA, PARKING SLASH PARKING, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, BY BOB HALL PIER.
IT'S A BIG QUESTION ASKED ALL THE TIME. THE FUNDING HAS BEEN THERE SINCE WE STARTED THE PROJECT FROM ROAD DISTRICT FOUR, BUT IT'S A BIG DEAL FOR THE PROJECT, AND I WANT TO STOP AND SAY THAT REALLY QUICK. WE WILL HAVE THE ROAD AND HAVE THAT
PARKING. >> YEP, AND YOU HAVE GOT -- YOU HAVE ALREADY FUNDED THE ENGINEERING AND DESIGN SPECS.
100% READY TO GO, AND FUNDED THE CONSTRUCTION PORTION OF IT. NOW ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS RUN IT THROUGH OUR PROGRAM AND SEE THE
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PRICE POINT WE CAN GET AND GET IT BUILT. WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET A CFO FOR PEOPLE TO GET ON THAT PIER UNTIL WE GET THISDONE. >> WE WANT TO TIME THE BUILDING WITH NOT A MUCH OF CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS RUNNING OVER IT.
>> SO YOU'RE NOT RUINING THE ROAD BEFORE.
>> WE HAVE A LOT OF COORDINATION.
>> CAN YOU SEND THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, IF THEY WANT ONE, I'D LIKE TO HAVE ONE, THE PLAN OF WHAT THE ROAD AND PARKING
AREA WILL LOOK LIKE? >> DO YOU WANT THE DIAGRAM PLAN?
DETAILED SPECS? >> I JUST WANT AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE.
>> DO YOU HAVE THE BACKUP? >> ATTACHMENTS.
>> IT'S IN THERE. >> I'LL FIND IT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. I GOT ASKED ABOUT IT THE OTHER DAY.
>> NO I UNDERSTAND. >> I GET ASKED ABOUT IT ALL THE
TIME. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.
>> THANK YOU, ALL. >> BLESS YOU.
[1. Discuss and consider conditional selection of AmeriTex Elevator for Elevator Maintenance Services (RFP 3318-25).]
>> MOVING ON TO C. PURCHASING. MICHAEL ROBINSON. C1, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CONDITIONAL SELECTION OF AMERITEX ELEVATOR FOR ELEVATOR MAINTENANCE SERVICES.
>> ON THIS ITEM, WE RECEIVED TWO PROPOSALS FROM AMERITEX AND TK ELEVATOR. THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE MET ON SEPTEMBER 29TH TO REVIEW THE PROPOSALS, AND EVALUATIONS WERE CONDUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PUBLISHED CRITERIA AND WAITINGS, AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS CONDITIONAL SELECTION FOR AMERITEX ELEVATOR.
RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. >> I WILL SECOND THE MOTION FOR DISCUSSION. SINCE WE HAD SOMEONE IN PUBLIC COMMENT ASKING ABOUT
THIS, IT WAS POSTED STANDARD? >> YES, MA'AM.
>> EVERYBODY WAS ALLOWED TO BID ON THIS? IT WASN'T DONE ANY DIFFERENTLY THAN THE REST OF OUR CONTRACTS?
>> WE RAN ON 8/25 AND 9/1. >> AND WE ONLY HAD TWO BIDS
TURNED IN? >> CORRECT. ELEVATOR SERVICES, NOT USUALLY A BIG, COMPETITIVE, NOT IN OUR AREA. FIRST TIME I HAVE PUT OUT A BID FOR ELEVATOR SERVICES.
>> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE FOLLOWED THE SAME POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND IT WASN'T LEFT OUT OR DONE ANY OTHER WAY.
>> THE COMPANY YOU'RE RECOMMENDING, ARE THEY LOCAL?
>> I WILL LET JUAN SPEAK TO THAT.
>> YES, COMMISSIONER, THEY HAVE AN OFFICE HERE.
>> THEY HAVE AN OFFICE HERE? >> YES, SIR.
>> IT'S NOT JUST LIKE A CUBICLE THEY HAVE RENTED?
>> AN OFFICE WITH STAFF AND MAINTENANCE PEOPLE HERE?
>> YES, SIR. >> TWO HOURS BEFORE THEY CAN
REPAIR ANYTHING? >> IN SOMEBODY IS STUCK IN AN ELEVATOR, WE CAN GET THEM OUT WITHIN 24 HOURS?
>> THE OTHER THING I WILL ADD, CONDITIONAL SELECTION ONLY. IT ALLOWS JUAN TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PROPOSED VENDOR, AND DETERMINE IF IT DOES, IN FACT, MEET WITH ALL OF HIS REQUIREMENTS, AND IF SO, WE WILL COME BACK AND BRING THE CONTRACT, TOO.
>> WORK TO BE DONE? >> POSSIBLY.
>> I WOULD KEEP THE COMMENTS IN MIND.
>> IF THAT DOESN'T WORK? >> GOES BACK OUT?
>> THOSE ARE THE CHOICES, YES, WE CAN DO EITHER OF THOSE TWO.
>> GO NUMBER TWO OR BACK OUT? >> YES, AS THE COURT WISHES,
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES
[1. Discuss and consider approving Budget Amendment No.15 for Fiscal Year 2024-2025 and all related matters.]
UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM D1 FROM THE AUDITOR, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER 15 FOR FISCAL YEAR2024-2025 AND RELATED MATTERS. >> THEY HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND
ARE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL. >> SO MOVED.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I'M SORRY. IT'S JUST BUDGET AMENDMENTS, REGULAR BUDGET FOR
THE END OF THE YEAR. >> NO, FOR REGULAR.
>> WHAT'S THE AMENDMENT? >> DO YOU HAVE ANY -- ARE THEY ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR? I'M SORRY MY BOOK WASN'T OPEN. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION, COMMISSIONER?
>> NO. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY THEN. I BELIEVE NOW IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE READY TO GO TO
EXECUTIVE, UNLESS -- >> JUDGE, REALLY QUICK, I JUST
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WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE, SINCE THIS IS CONSTANCE'S LAST>> AS INTERIM AUDITOR. >> HE'S NOT STARTING UNTIL
NOVEMBER 3RD . >> WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE?
>> WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE. I WILL WAIT. I WILL SAY IT ANYWAY. I JUST WANT TO THANK HER FOR EVERYTHING SHE HAS DONE AND SAY IT AGAIN IN OCTOBER. YOU'RE RIGHT, I'M PREMATURE, BUT I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE.
>> WE ALL DO, VERY MUCH. >> HAVING TO DO THE EXTRA WORK OVER THERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'S BEEN A HECK OF A TASK.
>> GOOD JOB. GOOD JOB. GOOD JOB. >> WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE
DONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ABSOLUTELY. SHE'S DONE AN
EXCELLENT JOB. >> I JUMPED THE GUN.
>> I WAS LIKE HOLD ON, GUYS. BELIEVE ME, I WOULD TAKE HER
TOMORROW BACK, BUT -- >> WHY IS HE STARTING SO LATE?
>> I DON'T -- IT'S JUST THE DATE HE GAVE. I DON'T KNOW. HE HAS A JOB MAYBE HE NEEDS TO GIVE NOTICE AT AS WELL. BUT WE --
[4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, 551.089, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.]
ITEM NUMBER 4, EXECUTIVE SESSION. PUBLIC NOTICE IS GIVEN THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY ELECT TO GO INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME DURING THE MEETING TO DISCUSS MATTERS LISTED ANYWHERE ON THE AGENDA WHEN AUTHORIZED BY THE PROVISION OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. TO THE EXTENT THERE HAS BEEN A PAST PRACTICE OF DISTINGUISHING ITEMS FOR PUBLIC DELIBERATION AND THOSE FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE PUBLIC IS ADVISED THAT THE COURT IS DEPARTING FROM THAT PRACTICE AND RESERVES THE RIGHT TO DISCUSS ANY LISTED AGENDA ITEMS IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WHEN AUTHORIZED BY LAW TO DO SO. IN THE EVENT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT ELECTS TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION REGARDING AN AGENDA ITEM, THE SECTION OR SECTIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION ACT WILL BE PUBLICALLY ANNOUNCED BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE VERNON'S TEXAS CODES SECTION 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551. 0745, 551.076, 551.086, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL HOLD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH THE ATTORNEYS INCLUDING MATTERS RELATED TO THE LITIGATION, DELIBERATION, REGARDING REAL PROPERTY, PERSPECTIVE GIFTS, PERSONNEL MATTERS, INCLUDING TERMINATION, COUNTY ADVISORY BODIES, SECURITY DEVICES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATION AND OTHER MATTERS THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION UPON COMPLETION OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION THE COMMISSIONER COURT MAY IN AN OPEN SESSION TAKE ACTION AS APPROPRIATE ON ITEMS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.ITEMS FOR TODAY ARE. CONSULT WITH COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO THE LEASE FOR THE NEW CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER AND RELATED MATTERS; TAKE ACTION IN OPEN SESSION IF NECESSARY. 551.071 B.÷÷÷ ÷CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO CPS ENERGY; AND RELATED MATTERS. (TEX. GOV'T CODE ÷ 551.071). TAKE ACTION IN OPEN SESSION IF NECESSARY. C.÷÷÷ CONSULT WITH COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING THE POTENTIAL TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE (TIRZ) #7 IN THE LONDON AREA, AND ALL RELATED MATTERS. TAKE ACTION IN OPEN SESSION IF NECESSARY. D.÷÷÷ ÷CONSULT WITH COUNTY ATTORNEY, PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071, TEXAS GOV'T CODE TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE PERTAINING TO THE COUNTY'S RIGHTS, DUTIES, PRIVILEGES AND OBLIGATIONS ARISING OUT OF THE PROPOSED COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT NEGOTIATED UNDER CHAPTER 174, TLGC BETWEEN REPRESENTATIVE OF NUECES COUNTY AND THE NCSOA, AND RELATED LEGAL MATTERS; TAKE ACTION IN OPEN SESSION IF NECESSARY. E.÷÷÷ CONSULT WITH COUNTY ATTORNEY AND OUTSIDE COUNSEL ON LEGAL ISSUES REGARDING THE CORPUS CHRISTI HOUSING AUTHORITY'S TAX-EXEMPTION; AND RELATED MATTERS TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE; DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND TAKE ACTION IN REGULAR SESSION IF NEEDED. CONSIDER ABOLISHING THE OFFICE OF PRECINCT 1, TO BE EFFECTIVE DECEMBER 31, 2026 AT THE END OF THE CURRENT OFFICE HOLDER TURN, AND THAT'S THE
>> AND IT IS -- IF THAT IS ALL, IT'S 11:58, AND WE ARE GOING TO
[A. Consult with County Attorney regarding legal matters related to the lease for the new Children's Advocacy Center and related matters; take action in Open Session if necessary. (Tex. Gov't Code § 551.071)]
FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. BACK INTO REGULAR SESSION.[02:55:02]
ITEM A IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, I BELIEVE I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MAREZ.>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN FOR THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY
>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[D. Consult with County Attorney, pursuant to Section 551.071, Texas Gov’t Code to receive legal advice pertaining to the County’s rights, duties, privileges and obligations arising out of the proposed collective bargaining agreement negotiated under Chapter 174, TLGC between representative of Nueces County and the NCSOA, and related legal matters; take action in Open Session if necessary. ]
ITEM D, CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE ON THE COUNTY RIGHTS ON A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICER.I WILL MAKE A MOTION BASED ON THE TENTATIVE AGREEMENT SIGNED BY THE NUECES COUNTY SHERIFF'S COUNTY ASSOCIATION AND THE COUNTY JUDGE THIS MORNING. A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT THAT HAS BEEN TENTATIVELY AGREED UPON.
>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY
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UNANIMOUSLY, AND THERE ARE NO OTHER MOTIONS FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE WILL GO BACKBACK TO 3.A.2.>> DISCUSSING AND CONSIDERING AN APPROVAL TO ABOLISHING THE OFFICE OF THE JUDGE PRECINCT, PLACE 2 TO BE EFFECTIVE DECEMBER 31, 2026 AT THE END OF THE CURRENT OFFICEHOLDER'S TERM. COMMISSIONER PUSLEY, THIS IS YOUR ITEM. WHY DON'T YOU TAKE IT OVER FROM HERE? I KNOW THERE'S LOTS OF INFORMATION AND DISCUSSION.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.
>> YEAH. I'VE GOT A NUMBER OF SLIDES HERE I WANT TO GO THROUGH AND HOPEFULLY OUR I.T. THING WORKS OKAY.
WE HAVE FIVE NEW PRECINCTS IN NUECES COUNTY AND PRECINCT 1 BEING THE ONLY PRECINCT THAT HAS THREE J.P. S AND THEY'RE DONE JUST LIKE THEY DO FOR COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS BALANCED AS FAR AS POPULATION IS CONCERNED SO THEY EACH CONTAIN ABOUT THE SAME SIZE POPULATION AS COMPARED TO EACH OTHER SO SOME OF THEM GEOGRAPHICALLY WERE LARGER WHERE THEY CAPTURED POPULATION INTO THE RESPECTIVE PRECINCTS. SO WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THAT'S NOT SHOWING THE WHOLE SLIDE.
OKAY. SO WHAT I DID IN LOOKING THROUGH ALL OF THE INFORMATION, I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING WHERE WE WERE COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES.
SO WHAT I DID WAS WENT THROUGH THE SOFTWARE THAT JP COURTS AUTHORIZED FOR THEIR DOCUMENTATION AND WE DID A FOUR- YEAR LOOKBACK ON THEIR CASES WITH THE ONE ASTERISK BEING HERE AT THE 2024- 2025, THAT'S AS OF -- THOSE NUMBERS ARE AS OF SEPTEMBER 24TH OF THIS YEAR, BUT THIS IS FOR JP PRECINCT 11 WHICH IS THE LARGER OF THE THREE HEARING CASES IN THIS COUNTY, AND AS OF SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR THEIR CASE LOAD -- OR CASES CLOSED WAS 5394 CASES.
WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
AND THIS IS THE COURT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING AWAY WITH. THIS IS JUDGE SANTANA'S COURT, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, HIS NUMBERS HAVE REMAINED FAIRLY FLAT OVER THE FOUR- YEAR LOOK BACK WHERE WE HAVE THE J11 COURT.
WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THIS IS OUR OTHER JP COURT AND WE BASED THIS ON THE SAME SCALE OWE WE'RE LOOKING AT APPLES TO APPLES HERE, AND AS YOU CAN SEE JP13 IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN EVEN THE OTHER TWO COURTS, AND I VISITED WITH JUDGE RUBIO HERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ABOUT HER CASES, AND SHE TOLD ME THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF HER CASES THAT SHE DOES NOW SHE'S DOING VIA ZOOM. SHE'S NOT EVEN HAVING TO HAVE PEOPLE COME TO THE COURTROOM, AND SO JUST FROM -- JUST LOOKING AT THOSE FIRST THREE, I THINK THERE IS AMPLE OPPORTUNITY FOR -- IF WE DO AWAY WITH THE
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12 COURT FOR US TO EASILY PICK UP THE LOAD.IT CAN EASILY BE SAID IN SOME RESPECTS THIS WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNTY TO ADVERTISE THAT THERE ARE ADDITIONAL JP LOCATIONS AND THERE WILL STILL BE FIVE JP LOCATIONS AND FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE PEOPLE WE CAN DO SOME ADVERTISING EVEN WITH OUR NEW ONLINE IPHONE APP THAT WE WILL HAVE HERE SHORTLY THAT WHAT JP COURTS ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM AND AS JUDGE RUBIO POINTED OUT, A NUMBER OF THOSE CASES CAN BE HEARD VIA A ZOOM CONFERENCE AND NOT TO HAVE TO EVEN GO TO A JP OFFICE WHICH WOULD BE MUCH MORE CONVENIENT FOR PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY. SO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS JUDGE WOOLSEY'S COURT, AND SHE OF ALL OF THE JPS ARE HEARING MORE CASES ON A YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT BASIS. SHE WAS THE LARGEST OF ALL NINE JPS. THE NEXT SLIDE WILL SHOW JUDGE RODRIGUEZ'S, AND SHE'S ALSO FAIRLY LARGE, BUT HER NUMBERS HAVE DECREASED SLIGHTLY OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS. THE NEXT ONE IS JUDGE LAWRENCE OVER IN BISHOP, AND I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE ANOMALY WAS FOR 2022- 2023, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT WAS A RESULT OF, BUT WE'LL GO BACK, BUT ANYWAY, THE CASES AS OF THIS YEAR HAD GONE BACK TO WHAT THEY HAD HISTORICALLY BEEN SHOWING. DUNCAN NIBLITZ AND THAT'S VERY SMALL IN THAT RESPECTIVE JP COURT. THE NEXT ONE WHICH IS JUDGE BOBBY GONZALEZ'S COURT. AS YOU SEE, HIS CASE LOAD HAS BEEN PRETTY FLAT ACROSS THE FOUR- YEAR PERIOD OF TIME.
THEN YOU GO TO THE COURT, JUDGE PENA'S COURT OVER IN DUCEY WHICH IS THE LOWER NUMBER OF CASES THAT ARE HANDLED OVER ALL OF THE EIGHT JPS, OR NINE, JPS, SORRY.
ON ONE SLIDE FOR YOU FOR THE 2024- 2025 YEAR THROUGH SEPTEMBER WHICH SHOWS YOU WHERE THE CASE LOADS ARE WITH RESPECT AND AGAIN, JP 11 AND 21 ARE CURRENTLY THE LARGEST SHOWING CASES CLOSED.
THE NEXT SLIDE, I LOOKED AT THE NUMBER OF PERSONNEL THAT IS RETAINED IN EACH COURT AND THIS INCLUDES THE JP THEMSELVES --
>> CAN YOU MAKE THAT ONE LARGER?
>> IT'S TOO SMALL. I ASKED HER TO MAKE IT LARGER.
>> I WAS LOOKING AT MINE. SCROLL UP TO THE TOP.
>> WE LOST IT. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS PROBLEM.
>> THERE IT IS. AND SO WHAT I WANTED TO SAY WAS WITH RESPECT TO JP COURT 12 JUDGE SANTANA'S COURT, BESIDES HIMSELF THERE ARE FOUR EMPLOYEES. I THINK THERE'S CERTAINLY OPPORTUNITY WITH RESPECT TO JP 11 AND JP 21 WE CAN ABSORB TWO OF THOSE PEOPLE WITHOUT ANY TROUBLE WHATSOEVER AND HELPING WITH ANY ADDITIONAL CASELOAD WHICH WOULD HELP WITH THEM RESOLVING THEIR CASE LOADS AND EVEN HELP THEM TO BE ABLE TO CLOSE MORE CASES ON AN EARLY BASIS.
THAT WOULD LEAVE US JUST TWO EMPLOYENS THAT WE COULD MOVE TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND WE TRANSFER PEOPLE HERE ON A COURTHOUSE ON A REGULAR BASIS. WE FIND EMPLOYMENT FOR THEM. IT WON'T BE A PROBLEM WHATSOEVER IN ABSORBING THE FOUR EMPLOYEES, AND AGAIN, JUDGE SANTANA IS RETIRING AND IT'S AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR, IN DECEMBER OF NEXT YEAR SO HE'LL STILL BE HERE ALL OF NEXT YEAR WHICH GIVES US PLENTY OF TIME TO TRANSITION FROM WHERE WE ARE NOW TO HOWHOW HANDLE THE CASE LOADS ON A GOING FORWARD BASIS. THE NEXT SEVERAL SLIDES I JUST WENT THROUGH THE MONETARY NUMBERS FOR EACH JP COURT ON A YEAR IN, YEAR OUT BASIS BASED ON THE FOUR- YEAR LOOKBACK THAT WE DID, AND THE FIRST COLUMN IS THE
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ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARY AND VEHICLE ALLOWANCE, AND THEN YOU COME ACROSS AND YOU LOOK AT THIS OUTREACH FOR ALL OF THE OTHER EMPLOYEES AND WHAT WE SPEND ON EMPLOYEE BENEFITS AND ALL OF THE OTHER EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH EACH ONE OF THOSE COURTS. SO THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO SAVE SOME MONEY AND THEN AT THE END IT SHOWS THE TOTAL APPROPRIATION FOR EACH ONE AND THERE'S A SLIDE LIKE THAT FOR EACH ONE OF THE COURTS.AND THEN -- IF YOU GO TO THE LAST SLIDE, PLEASE.
THIS WAS SOME INFORMATION THAT COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ SHARED WITH ME. IT'S A REALLY GOOD STATEMENT OF HOW THIS IMPACTS, IF YOU LOOK AT JP-11, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE OF CASE LOAD THAT EACH ONE OF THE JPS ARE CARRYING, JP IS 6% AND IT GOES ON DOWN TO THE LOWEST IS AGAIN, THE COURT WHICH IS 5%, AND THAT PERCENTAGE PRETTY WELL CARRIES TO THE REVENUE THAT EACH COURT IS GENERATING. SO THAT WAS GOOD INFORMATION, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE SHORT VERSION. WE PUT TOGETHER A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THIS, BUT I THINK SHOWING THE CASE LOAD IS THE EASIEST WAY TO COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES, AND AGAIN, OUR COUNTY DOES HAVE SOME CHALLENGES WITH RESPECT TO WHERE A JP OFFICE MIGHT BE LOCATED. I KNOW WHEN I WAS ON THE COURT BEFORE WE LOOKED AT ELIMINATING THE COURT IN ALL OF DUCEY, AND WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT THE COURT IN RAMSTOWN HAD A LARGER CASE LOAD, BUT HAD FEWER EMPLOYEES COMPARED TO ALL OF DUCEY COURT. SO WE MOVED TWO EMPLOYEES OUT OF THE OLIVE DUCEY COURT AND MOVED THEM TO JUDGE GONZALEZ'S COURT, AND WE MOVED ANOTHER ONE OVER TO WHICH AT THAT TIME WAS WITH JUDGE COX WHICH BECAME JUDGE WOOLSEY'S COURT.
SO THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR US TO DO THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE IN THE CASE OF DUNCAN NIBLITZ COURT. HE SERVED IN PORTER RANCH AND THERE IS A NECESSITY TO HAVE SOMEONE THERE AND SOMEONE ON THE FAR END OF THE COUNTY AND OVER IN BISHOP, AS WELL. THOSE COURTS ARE LOCATED FOR THE CONVENIENCE AND DISTANCE THAT THE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO DRIVE IF THEY HAD TO COME TO THE COURTHOUSE ALL THE TIME. SO, ANYWAY --
>> CAN YOU BACK UP JUST A SECOND FOR ME?
>> I THINK WHAT MANY PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND AND MAYBE YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN THIS IS THIS WASN'T DONE IN BACK ROOMS. IT GOT MENTIONED.
WE ASKED THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OPINION ON HOW TO DO IT. WE FOUND OUT PER STATUTE IS YOU HAVE TO DO IT WHEN THE SEAT IS OPEN, VACANT, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. I HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS -- THIS DIDN'T COME UP OVERNIGHT, BUT OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY INFORMED US THAT IF WE WANTED TO DO THIS WE HAD TO DO IT BEFORE THE FILING
DEADLINE. >> NOVEMBER THE 8TH.
>> YOU HAVE TO TALK INTO THE MICROPHONE OR THEY WON'T HEAR YOU ONLINE.
>> YOU JUST HAVE TO BE AWARE THAT WHENEVER YOU DO IT DURING THE TIME PERIOD THEY'LL HAVE UNTIL THE END OF THEIR TERM.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S A LEGAL URGENCY TO DO IT BEFORE THE FILING DEADLINE.
>> BUT SOMEONE WOULD FILE AND SPEND MONEY FOR A PLACE.
>> YES. >> WE WERE TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT BEFORE THAT HAPPENED.
>> YOU CAN'T LET THEM FILE. I'M SURE THERE IS A LEGAL --
>> THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PROPERTY INTEREST IN IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE FILED FOR IT.
>> BUT IF THEY FILE AND THEY'RE ON THE BALLOT THEN WE CAN'T TAKE THEM OFF THE BALLOT.
>> YOU CAN'T RUN FOR AN OFFICE THAT'S
NOT THERE. >> THAT'S NOT A PART OF -- I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PART OF THE
ADVISORY. >> BUT HE'S SAYING YOU HAVE TO DO IT BEFORE THE FILING DEADLINE OR THEY'RE THERE FOR FOUR YEARS.
>> THAT'S NOT A PART OF WHAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE LOOKED AT.
>> WELL, ANYWAY, I THINK AS A MATTER OF CONVENIENCE WE WOULDN'T WANT PEOPLE -- AND I WILL TELL YOU, THERE IS
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ALSO, YOUR HONOR, BROUGHT UP ABOUT THIS BEING A PARTY ISSUE.I NEVER LOOKED AT THAT FROM THIS WHOLE INCIDENT FROM A PARTY ISSUE. YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS ON THE CITY COUNCIL THERE WERE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD WHERE I THOUGHT WE COULD CUT FUNDING AND ONE OF WHICH WAS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS ALLOCATED EACH YEAR FOR TRAVEL FOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND I THOUGHT IT WAS ABSOLUTELY OUT OF LINE BECAUSE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE NOT REQUIRED AS COMMISSIONERS ARE TO OBTAIN EDUCATIONAL CREDITS EVERY YEAR AND THEY HAD SOMETHING LIKE 7,000 OR $8,000 A YEAR PER COUNCIL MEMBER AND TRAVEL BUDGETS, AND I'M PROUD TO SAY I GOT THAT CUT TO $1,000 BEFORE I LEFT.
ANYWAY, THERE ARE FIVE REPUBLICANS, JPS AND FOUR DEMOCRATS. I WILL TELL YOU THIS, THE NEXT ONE THAT COMES UP FOR A RETIREMENT WOULD BE A REPUBLICAN.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED FIVE JPS FOR A COUNTY OF THIS SIZE BALANCED ON EACH ONE OF THESE PRECINCTS BEING BALANCED AND WHEN THEY WERE CREATED WITH RESPECT TO POPULATION.
WE WILL STILL HAVE TWO JPS TO REPRESENT PRECINCT 1.
ONE AT THIS COURTHOUSE AND ONE ACROSS FROM THE HILLTOP CENTER IN COWL ISLAND, AND I THINK WE NEEDED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS NEXT YEAR TO LOOK AT HOW WE'RE HANDLING THE CASES IN THOSE -- IN ALL OF OUR JP PRECINCTS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THE MOST EFFICIENT HANDLING OF CASES AND PROVIDING WHATEVER IS NECESSARY TO HELP THOSE JPS PROCESS THEIR CASES AND AGAIN, THAT'S FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE UTILIZING THESE COURTS.
SO THAT'S ALL I HAD IN CASE ANYBODY HAD -- AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
>> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE ON THE NUMBER OF CASES WAY BACK WHEN? I'M TRYING TO -- ON THE CLOSED CASES?
>> ON THE CURRENT JP THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
>> I HAVE TO MAKE SURE I'M SEEING THIS --
HOLD ON. >> THAT'S THE NUMBER --
>> THAT'S THE NUMBER OF CASES CLOSED IN AN ENTIRE YEAR?
>> YES, SIR. THAT'S ACCORDING TO OUR ODYSSEY SOFTWARE THAT THEY UTILIZE FOR THEIR CASE MANAGEMENT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE FOUND BACK WHEN I WAS ON THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT BEFORE, AND WE SWITCHED FROM -- I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE OLD SOFTWARE, BUT WE SWITCHED ALL OF THE JP COURTS OVER TO THE NEW ODYSSEY SOFTWARE, WE HAD LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF CASES THAT HAD NOT BEEN CLOSED AND WE FOUND THEY WOULD NEVER BE CLOSED BECAUSE OF THE TIME PERIOD THEY HAD EXPIRED WITH RESPECT TO HOW OLD THE CASES WERE. SO WE HAD TO GO BACK WHEN WE DIDDID THE UPGRADE WE EXPUNGED THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE CASES AND THEY DID A BULK DISMISSAL OF ALL OF THEM TO CATCH UP.
THAT'S WHY I USE THIS NUMBER BECAUSE IT WAS APPLES TO APPLES ACROSS ALL OF THE COURTS, BUT THIS REFLECTS THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT THEY HAD CLOSED FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
>> SO MY QUICK MATH BASED ON 365 DAYS A YEAR, 20 WORKING DAYS A MONTH THAT THIS COURT IS CLOSING SEVEN FILES A DAY WHICH IS -- I MEAN -- I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT ANOTHER COURT COULDN'T ABSORB THAT. THAT'S NOT A LOT.
I'M SURPRISED TO SEE -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DISCREPANCY BETWEEN TWO COURTS RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER WHY ONE HAS 1600 AND ONE HAS ALMOST 6,000.
I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHY THAT'S HAPPENING. I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW P FILINGS --
>> I THINK THEY FILE ANYWHERE, BUT I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SITUATION IS, AND IT CERTAINLY WOULD GIVE A LOT OF LEAD TIME TO WIND THAT COURT DOWN, AND I WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT I FOUND WHEN I WENT INTO COURT 5 I FOUND EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, COMMISSIONER. THERE WERE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF FILES IN THAT COURT WHICH HADN'T BEEN ADDRESSED WITH A DROPPED DOCKET, AND I STARTED HAVING A BUNCH OF DROPPED DOCKETS AND GOT RID OF -- AND THERE WERE FILES
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THAT WERE STILL, QUOTE, OPENED, BUT HAD NEVER BEEN FINISHED OR NEVER BEEN, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING BEEN DONE ON THEM, AND I GOT THOSE OUT OF THERE. SO IT WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE FILES THAT ARE LIKE THAT IN THE JP COURTS NOW, AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S STATUTORY THAT THEY CAN'T, BUT IT'S A JP COURT -->> THE ODYSSEY DOES LIST CHASES THAT ARE NOT CLOSED, AND I WOULD VENTURE ON TO SAY WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO ON A YEAR BASIS -- I'M SORRY. ON A YEARLY BASIS THAT WE LOOK AT GOING INTO EACH JP COURT AND LOOKING AT THOSE TO SEE IF THEY'LL EVER BE POSSIBLY CLEARED AND IF NOT, DO AS YOU SAID, A DROPPED DOCKET ON THEM.
THERE'S NO SENSE IN CARRYING THEM IF WE DON'T THINK THAT THEY'LL EVER CLOSE. WITNESSES DISAPPEAR, PEOPLE MOVE AWAY, WHATEVER HAPPENS AND JP COURTS, AS WE FOUND THE ABILITY TO TRY TO PROSECUTE THOSE AND THE REVENUE THAT YOU WOULD GENERATE FROM THAT OR THE CONVENIENCE THAT YOU WOULD GENERATE FROM THAT IS NOT WORTH THE TIME, MONEY AND
EFFORT. >> I THINK THE WORD THERETHERE ALSO BE ENCOURAGE THEM. THEY WOULD BE ELECTED
>> AND I THINK THE ONE POINT EARLIER THAT JUDGE CANALES MADE ABOUT THE DELTA BEING UNDER A THOUSAND, I DON'T THINK THAT'S COMPLETELY ACCURATE.
THE CASES DON'T GO AWAY. THEY'LL GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. I THINK THERE WILL BE MORE SIGNIFICANT COST SAVINGS THAN SHE ARTICULATED.
THEY'LL GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THE COURT WILL BE ABLE TO ABSORB THEM ESPECIALLY WITH THE LOW COUNT THAT THERE IS HERE. YOU CAN LITERALLY SHIFT EVERY ONE OF THESE CASES OUT TO JUDGE RUBIO'S COURT AND HE'S CLOSING 6,000 A YEAR AND SHE'S CLOSING 1300 A YEAR.
YOU CAN LITERALLY SHIFT THESE OUT TO ANOTHER COURT AND TAKE IT ALL ON, I WOULD THINK WITH WHAT'S THERE BECAUSE OF WHAT JUDGE BENAVIDEZ IS DOING WITH THE NUMBERS THEY'RE CLEARING. I THINK THE DELTA WOULD BE MUCH HIGHER. I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT SAVINGS TO THE TAXPAYERS IN DOING THIS, AND I DON'T THINK IT WILL INCONVENIENCE ANYONE BECAUSE IT'S IN THE SAME COURTHOUSE. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT, LIKE, SHUTTING DOWN A LOCATION THAT WILL NEVER BE USED AGAIN. JUDGE BENAVIDEZ' COURT WOULD CONTINUE TO OPERATE IN THE SAME SPOT.
>> WE ALSO NEED TO INVESTIGATE IF JUDGE RUBIO HAS FOUND THE MAGIC BULLET OF BEING ABLE TO DO A NUMBER OF THESE CASES VIA ZOOM MEETINGS WE COULD POSSIBLY USE THAT IN OUR OTHER COURTS, NOT ONLY IN JUDGE BENAVIDEZ' COURT, BUT ALSO IN JUDGE WOOLSEY'S COURT TO IMPROVE THE CONVENIENCE TO THE PEOPLE HERE IN THIS COUNTY AND HOW THEY HAVE TO -- IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME TO THE COURTHOUSE OR THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME TO THE OTHER JP COURTS THEN THAT'S HOW WE'LL DO IT.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO INVESTIGATE, AND I KNOW AT ONE TIME AND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ YOU MAY KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS THAN I DO.
I THOUGHT WE HAD A CONTRACT WITH CCISD TO PROCESS THEIR TRUANCY CASES, IS THAT CORRECT? OR DID WE JUST DO IT BECAUSE WE DID IT?
>> NO, THERE'S NO CONTRACT. JP IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROCESSING CASES. NORMALLY THEY WOULD NOT TRUST THE TRUANCY CASES EXCEPT JUDGE RODRIGUEZ IS ACTUALLY PROCESSING TRUANCY. SOME MAY BE DOING SOME OR A FEW OF THEM, BUT THE BULK OF THEM IS GOING TO RODRIGUEZ.
>> YEAH. I DID NOTICE THAT THERE WERE A COUPLE OF INSTANCES AND A COUPLE OF JPS THAT WERE DOING A COUPLE OF TRUANCY CASES AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
>> WE HAVE TO KEEP ONE THING IN MIND AND WHEN WE DO TRUANCY CASES, DO AS MUCH TIME.
THAT, DOES -- >> I KNOW SHE DOES A LOT OF THEM AND THEY WERE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO DO IT, AND SHE WAS WILLING TO DO THAT, SO --
>> I -- I'VE GOT THE NUMBERS HERE JUST TO KIND OF RUN THROUGH IT REAL QUICKLY, AND JP- 11, 16% OF THEIR -- OF JP- 11 CASES WERE DEBT CLAIMS. 48% WERE FAILURE TO ATTEND SCHOOL AND 52%
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WERE TRAFFIC. LET'S SEE -- THE AND JP COURT- 12 AND THOSE NUMBERS I GAVE YOU WERE JUST FOR THE CURRENT YEAR -- CURRENT YEAR ON JP- 12 IS 6% FOR DEBT CLAIM AND 14% WERE FOR FAILURE TO ATTEND THE SCHOOL AND 32% FOR TRAFFIC, AND FROM YEAR TO YEAR THOSE CHANGE, BUT THE FAILURE TO ATTEND SCHOOL FOR JP-12 WAS ALWAYS CLOSE TO 15%. LET'S SEE AND JP- 13 FAILURE TO ATTEND SCHOOL WAS THE LOWER OF THE PERCENTAGE.THAT COURT WAS PRIMARILY TRAFFIC 62 TO 63%.
JP- 21, SAME THING. TRAFFIC CASES WERE ALWAYS OVER 50%. HOT CHECKS WERE PROBABLY THE AVERAGE OF 10%, AND THAT CLAIM WAS THE BALANCE OF THE REST. JP- 22 CASE LOAD WAS 47%.
POT CHECKS AND IN THAT PARTICULAR PRECINCT, THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF THE CASES IN ALL FOUR YEARS AND FAILURE TO ATTEND SCHOOL WAS SECOND.
TRAFFIC WAS THIRD. JP- 3 CASE LOAD, TRAFFIC WAS ALMOST 80% ALMOST ACROSS THE BOARD. FAILURE TO APPEAR WAS ALMOST 10% AND PROBABLY 9% AVERAGE, AND THEN THERE WERE SOME -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS VIOLATE TO APPEAR. OR FAILURE TO APPEAR. I'M SORRY.
JP CASE 4, TRAFFIC WAS 44 -- ABOUT 45% ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL FOUR YEARS, AND THEN THEY HANDLE QUITE A BIT OF PARKS AND WILDLIFE BUSINESS AND ABOUT 16% TO 17% WAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE, AND THEN ABOUT THE AVERAGE OF ABOUT 10%, TEN%, 10, 11% FOR PENAL CASES. AND FOR PORTER, AND I'M SURE THAT'S WHY THEY HAD TO HANDLE A LOT OF PARK AND WILD LIFE AND A LOT OF FISHING DOWN THERE. JP- 51 OVER 70% OF HIS WERE TRAFFIC AND OCA WAS ABOUT 13 -- 13 TO 14% AND 5- 2 TRAFFIC IN ALL FIVE YEARS WAS 70% OF THE CASES HANDLED. THAT'S KIND OF THE ROUGH AVERAGES ACROSS THE BOARD.
>> I KNOW THIS KIND OF TOOK ME BY SURPRISE WHEN YOU BROUGHT IT UP DURING BUDGET AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT I KNOW SOMEONE ELSE MENTIONED THIS MORNING ABOUT THE POPULATION AND STUFF, BUT I DID A QUICK SEARCH YESTERDAY AND NUECES COUNTY HAS LESS THAN 350,000 PEOPLE, WE HAVE NINE JP COURTS. HIDALGO COUNTY HAS THREE TIMES THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WE HAVE AND FIVE JP COURTS. TRAVIS COUNTY HAS 1.3 MILLION AND THEY HAVE FIVE JP COURTS. EL PASO HAS THREE TIMES OUR AMOUNT AND THEY HAVE EIGHT JP COURTS AND IN LIGHT OF YOUR COMPARISON OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, IF THIS ONE COURT WERE TO CLOSE AND THE AVERAGE CASE LOAD IS SEVEN CASES CLEARED PER DAY, I DON'T -- NOW WITH THIS KIND OF INFORMATION, SEE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE OVERBURDENSOME FOR ANY OF OUR COURTS, AND I THINK IN THIS NEXT YEAR COMING UP THAT WE MAITAI MAY TAKE A DEEPER DIVE AND WITH THE NEXT PERSON THAT RETIRES THERE MAY BE A LOT OF CASES SITTING THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE THOSE ELECTED OFFICIALS TO CLEAR UP THEIR DOCKET, TOO. SO I WAS KIND OF SHOCKED.
IT WASN'T WHERE I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BE GOING ON THIS
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ONE, BUT I DON'T, IN LIGHT OF THE FACT OF THE INFORMATION BROUGHT TO US TODAY, I SEE IT IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT.>> OKAY. >> IS THAT YOUR MOTION, COMMISSIONER OR DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE MOVING FORWARD WITH -- I DON'T LIKE THE WORD ABOLISH, BUT CLOSE JP COURT 12 AFTER THE CURRENT TERM OF JUDGE SANTANA IS COMPLETED.
>> DO I HAVE A DISCUSSION OR DO
>> YOU CAN BRING IT HOME. THERE YOU GO.
YOU CAN BRING IT HOME. I GOTCHA. I'LL SET IT UP, YOU SPIKE IT.
LOOK, I DON'T DOUBT THE SINCERITY OF COMMISSIONER PUSLEY ON THIS, I DON'T. I HAVE TRIED TO TELL THAT TO EVERYONE I'VE SPOKEN TO. THIS IS ABOUT TRYING TO BE EFFICIENT. I AGREE.
I'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR THIS FOR YEARS NOW THAT WE HAVE PROBABLY TOO MANY JPS IN OUR COUNTY.
GEOGRAPHICALLY WE'RE NOT AS SIMPLE AS A LOT OF THE COUNTIES THAT JUDGE SCOTT JUST MENTIONED BECAUSE THOSE ARE SQUARES OROR SO YOU CAN EASILY CUT IN HALF OR BIFURCATE IN A WAY THAT YOU WILL GET PRETTY MUCH AN EVEN SPLIT. . PORT A YOU EITHER TAKE A FERRY OR TAKE A LONE HIGHWAY TO GET THERE. I GET THAT, THAT'S KIND OF FAR REMOVED AND MAYBE ONE DAY MAYBE NUECES COUNTY DOES GET TO FIVE. WE DO A SIMPLE SPLIT FOR THE MAINLAND AND THEN THE ISLAND HAS ITS OWN.
I ALSO GET THE ARGUMENT THAT IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOOD POLICY TO DO THISTHIS SOMEBODY'S IN OFFICE OR CAN WE EVEN LEGALLY DO IT WHEN SOMEONE IS IN OFFICE, RIGHT? YOU CAN ONLY DO IT WHEN THERE'S AN ACKNOWLEDGED RETIREMENT THAT IS COMING UP. SO I -- I AGREE.
CHECK OFF ON THOSE. YES, TOTALLY IN LINE WITH THOSE.
SO I'M FOR EFFICIENCY. I BELIEVE IN KEEPING OUR BUDGET AS MINIMAL AS POSSIBLE, AND THAT THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO DO THIS, AND SO WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? AND SO I THINK THAT'S MAYBE WHERE WE'RE AT BECAUSE JUDGE SANTANA IS THE FIRST TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HE WILL NOT SEEK A TERM AFTER NEXT YEAR'S ELECTION, HE'S NOT GOING TO RUN AGAIN. MY CONCERN IS THAT THIS IS A LOT OF DATA AND EVERY DAY WE HAVE MORE AND MORE. I APPRECIATE THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF -- IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY DAY WE GET A NEW SHEET AND INFORMATION AND I I HOPED IT WOULD BE PART OF THE PACKET ON FRIDAY AND I KNOW SOMETIMES IT'S PART OF THE TIMEFRAME AND HOPEFULLY IT WAS A START.
I UNDERSTAND EVEN THE NUMBERS, THE CASE NUMBER, AND IF WE CAN GET BACK TO THE SLIDE.
IF WE CAN'T, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.
I WROTE DOWN TWO NUMBERS, ONE IS PRECINCT 1 AND 2.
WHICH IS THE ONE THAT IS POSSIBLY CLOSING AT THE END OF THE ELECTED TERM.
>> NO, THAT'S FINE. THAT NUMBER IS 1671 CASES CLOSED, RIGHT?
>> AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER PRECINCT, AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO CALLING OUT JPS BECAUSE THEY HAVE WHAT THEY HAVE, RIGHT? IF YOU HAVE THE CHANCE AND HAVEN'T ALREADY, GO TO THE COUNTY CLERK'S WEBSITE TO HER LINK ON THE NUECES COUNTY WEBSITE AND YOU CAN FIND A MAP, A PRETTY GOOD MAP, AND I DON'T THINK IT BLOWS UP OR YOU CAN ZOOM IN AND GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA THAT'S COVERED. OUR PREDECESSORS HAVEN'T TOUCHED THIS MAP IN AT LEAST 20 YEARS.
THAT'S AN ISSUE, RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S A BIG ISSUE.
WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS A WHILE BACK, BACK IN 2021 WHEN WE WERE DRAWING THE LINES FOR COMMISSIONERS COURT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO IT EVERY TEN YEARS AFTER THE CENSUS IS CONCLUDED.
WE DID OURS IN 2021. BY NOVEMBER OF 2021, PRIOR COURT VOTED ON THE NEW BOUNDARIES. I EVEN BROUGHT UP, WHAT ABOUT CONSTABLES AND JPS? NO WORD, NO ACTIONS AND NO MOTIONS SO WE JUST PROCEEDED, AND IN ESSENCE, WE'VE ALLOWED 20 YEARS TO GO BY WITHOUT LOOKING AT THIS. I WOULD SAY NOT LOOKING AT THIS, BUT LOOKING AT TRYING TO BE MORE GEOGRAPHICALLY RESPONSIBLE WITH THIS. POPULATIONS SHIFT. I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A BIG CONCENTRATION OF NUMBERS IN CASES CLOSED WITH JUDGE WOOLSEY.
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SHE'S BEEN BLOWING UP THE SOUTH SIDE OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND THE SOUTH SIDE OF CORPUS CHRISTI WHERE THERE IS A LOT OF POPULATION GROWTH. WE KNOW THAT'S WHERE THE POPULATION COMES IS MAINLY CENTERED AROUND.PRECINCT 1 HAS A VERY LARGE GEOGRAPHIC AREA AND STILL HAS A PRETTY GOOD CHUNK OF POPULATION BETWEEN KYLE ISLAND ASK AND CORPUS CRIST SET MAIN PART OF IT.
I LOOKED AT THE LOWEST NUMBER OF CASES CLOSED, RIGHT? AND CASES CLOSED PER HOUR BECAUSE I JUST WANT 2080 A YEAR, RIGHT? 2080. I REMEMBER THAT NUMBER. SO START DOING THE MATH. CASES CLOSED, ROUGHLY ONE-HALF CASE CLOSED AN HOUR FOR THE SMALLEST JP PRECINCT, BUT YET THAT'S NOT PART OF THE DISCUSSION TODAY. THAT COURT ISN'T BEING -- AS FAR AS WE KNOW, THAT COURT IS NOT -- THAT JUDGE HAS NOT DECLARED WHETHER OR NOT THE DAY WILL SEEK AND THAT'S A NUMBER.
I'M FOR COMPREHENSIVE STUDY AND DOING THEM ALL SO WE CAN CREATE A PLAN SO CAN PLAN OUT AND EVENTUALLY WHEN SOMEONE RETIRED AND HOW WILL WE ADJUST.
IT'S TOUGH TO DO IT THAT WAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE EVER GET DOWN TO EIGHT. MAYBE SOMEONE WILL THROW OUT A MOTION AND GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE BECAUSE IF THE MOTION AS IT EXISTS PASSES, THEN ALL WE'VE DONE TODAY, IF WE DON'T AMEND ITIT JUST TALKED ABOUT THE FUTURE, BUT WE HAVE NO COMMITMENT THEN IT DOES BECOME A DEAD ISSUE. I DON'T THINK THAT IT IS.
I PERSONALLY DON'T. I'LL PROBABLY HEAR ABOUT IT, BUT I DON'T.
IF WE DO SAY THAT THEN WE NEED TO IDENTIFY WHAT ARE THE NEXT COURTS OR WHOEVER THAT NEXT COURT IS, RIGHT? MAYBE WE DON'T IDENTIFY, ANY WE ELIMINATE THAT POSITION AND HOW DO WE RESTRUCTURE THESE BOUNDARIES, THEY NEED TO MOVE.
BY THE WAY, WE'RE GETTING MORE RURAL OUT IN BISHOP AND DRISCOLL. THOSE AREAS AND MANCATY, AND THOSE AREAS ARE GROWING AND BLOWING UP WITH SUBDIVISIONS.
IT'S NOT ALL JUST CORPUS CHRISTI, BUT MY THING IS THAT WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE. HOW DO WE PLAN FOR THAT? THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING IS FOR US TO CONSIDER IN A MOTION OR AMENDMENT OR AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION IS DO WE PLAN FOR THE NEXT ONE? BECAUSE THIS -- THIS IS A LOT TO HANDLE AND TAKE ON.
THIS IS -- LET ME SHOW THE PUBLIC.
THIS IS ONE PACKET. NOT A FULL REAM, A THIRD AT LEAST OF A REAM OF PAPER FOR ONE PACKET THAT I GOT AND THEN WE'VE GOT OTHER INDIVIDUAL SHEETS AND THE ONE THAT WE JUST SAW WITH ALL THE GREAT CHARTS. I DON'T KNOW IF I GOT THAT OR NOT, BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT ONE PRINTED UP.
THE THING IS THIS IS A LOT OF DATA TO DIGEST, AND SO I GET THAT WE MET THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THE PUBLIC -- WE OWE IT TO THEM TO GET THIS DATA EARLY AND NOT DAY OF AND ALSO TO GIVE THE JUDGE OR NEAR THE COURT OR SOMEONE FROM ADMINISTRATION TO GO AND TALK TO ALL OUR JPS AND SAY HOW IS THIS GOING TO WORK? WE KNOW TYPICALLY IF THE JP CASES, YOU CAN GO TO A CERTAIN JP AND YOU CAN GO WHENEVER YOU CAN FIND A JP. IF YOU GET ONE CITATION YOU CAN'T GO TO ANOTHER.
STAY. >> ANYONE ELSE CAN GO WHEREVER
THEY WANT. >> I WONDER IF THEY HAVE TO STAY?
>> THEY DO. THE EVICTIONS ARE TO BE HEARD BY THE JP IN THAT PRECINCT.
>> I KNOW THERE WAS A STIPULATION TO WHERE YOU'RE
REQUIRED. >> YOU HAVE TO STAY IN THE PRECINCT WHERE THEY'RE FILED.
>> EVICTIONS ONLY. IF YOUR HOUSE IS IN THAT PRECINCT THEY HAVE TO BE FILED.
>> THAT WAS CITATION, I HAD A FRIEND WHO GOT A CITATION AND HAD TO GO TO A PARTICULAR COURT. THE ISSUE IS I KNOW THERE ARE CERTAIN CASES THAT NEED TO BE ASSIGNED TO CERTAIN PRECINCTS. WE KNOW TRUANCY HAS BEEN DESIGNATED TO CERTAIN JPS AND WE KNOW JUDGES HAVE CERTAIN PASSIONS AND ALL KIND OF DIFFERENT KURTS THAT ARE
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EVEN ON THE J.P. LEVEL. THERE A A LOT TO WORK THROUGH IN A ALONG PERIOD THIS YEAR. IF YOU HAD TOLD ME I GOT SWORN IN I WOULD SAY NO WAY. THIS YEAR'S GONE BY FAST. IT'S BEEN A LONG YEAR AT THE SAME TIME AND IT'S A LOT THAT WE'VE HAD AS A COURT. I WISH THAT WE WOULD HAVE STARTED THIS A LOT EARLIER AND LOOKED AT THIS AND LET THE PUBLIC KNOW EARLIER BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG DEAL, AND SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT NOTICE.THEY'LL JUST KEEP GOING ABOUT THEIR DAY AND NEVER NOTICE. MY WORRY IS ABOUT THE STAFF AND THE INFLUX OF CASES FOR THE JUDGES. CAN THEY HANDLE IT? SHOULD THEY HANDLE IT? YES. ARE WE GIVING THEM A RESPONSIBILITY AND MANDATE AND SOME WEIGHED IN ON THEIR THOUGHTS TODAY, I'M GLAD THEY DID. OTHERS HAVEN'T, AND THIS WILL IMPACT ALL OF THE REMAINING JP'S OPINION. TO ME, THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES HERE TODAY AND MY BIGGEST ONE IS THAT WE'RE SHORT ON TIME, AND THAT'S -- THIS IS A BIG DECISION TO MAKE A SUCH A SHORT TURNAROUND, AND THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT. SO I -- I DON'T KNOW HOW OUR VOTE WILL TURN OUT. EVEN IF WE GET TWO EXTRA WEEKS I STILL DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ENOUGH TIME TO LOOK THROUGH ALL THIS. BUDGET WISE, WE HAVE A YEAR TO PLAN BECAUSE IT WON'T BE UNTIL THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE SO THAT DOES HELP AND I'VE BEEN ASKED ABOUT THAT. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. THIS YEAR'S BUDGET IS FUNDED.
THIS COURT WILL STILL BE IN EXISTENCE BY SEPTEMBER 30, 2026, AND NEXT YEAR WE'LL LOOK AT A THREE- MONTH BUDGET AND THAT'S IT IF THIS PASSES, BUT THIS IS A LOT.
I LIKE THE CONCEPT. I WISH WE'D DONE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR ALL OF THE JPS FOR BETTER REPRESENTATION SO SOME OF THE PEAKS AND VALLEYS THAT WE SAW ARE BETTER SPREAD OUT AS FAR AS CASE LOADS AND HOW THEY'RE DISTRIBUTED. THAT'S MY CONCERN. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. I BELIEVE YOU'RE UP, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. HE'S ALREADY SPOKEN.
>> I JUST ECHO WHAT COMMISSIONER MAREZ SAYS, BUT YOU KNOW, I HEARD THE COMMENTS TODAY, AND I REALLY -- I SEE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS VERY BRIEFLY ONE TIME.
NOT EVEN A DISCUSSION IN COURT AND IT WAS JUST A TALK THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AND THE FOLLOWING WEEK THEY ASKED FOR THE COUNTY'S OPINION ON SOMETHING AND NOW HERE WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE A VOTE. SO I THINK IN ALL FAIRNESS TO THE PEOPLE THEY DESERVE MORE TIME.
THEY NEEDED AT LEAST A COUPLE OF YEARS FOR HOW TO GO.
WE WENT FROM A TO Z REAL QUICK, IN A WEEK.
WHAT HAPPENED TO B TO Y AND HOW CAN THAT HAPPEN AND WHY AND WHY NOT? YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE LOOK AT, DO WE COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES OR APPLES TO ORANGES BECAUSE EVERY COURT IS DIFFERENT.
EVERY COURT IS DIFFERENT. EVERY SINGLE COURT IS DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT THE VARIOUS VARIOUS FINDINGS. I'LL PUT A FINDING IN THE RESOLUTION BECAUSE THAT WILL BACK UP MY RESOLUTION OF WHAT FINDINGS I HAVE.
IF I DON'T HAVE ANY FINDINGS IN THE RESOLUTION I'M ONLY GOING BY JUST PERCEPTIONS OF WHAT OTHER COUNTIES DID, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE MENTIONED THAT POSITION IS NOT REQUIRED AND NONE OF THESE POSITIONS ARE REQUIRED, BUT KNOW, BUT WE HAVE THEM. WE SAW THE MAP THAT SHOWED PRECINCT 1. IT MAY BE A SMALL PRECINCT 1, BUT IT IS PRETTY LONG AND PRETTY WIDE. IT GOES FROM NORTH BEACH ALL OF THE WAY TO THE MIDDLE OF TOWN TO CLARK.
THAT'S A BIG AREA, AND ONE TIME THAT JP WAS IN KYLE ISLAND AND IT WAS TO SERVE THAT AREA, AND NOW YOU HAVE OTHERS AROUND THERE THAT ARE GROWING IN THE RURAL AREAS AND LONDON IS GROWING LIKE IRON.
SO I THINK THAT -- I THINK IN MY OPINION, SLOW DOWN AND SAY WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE? I HEAR COMMISSIONER PUSLEY, AND I KNOW HIS TIONS AND
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I AGREE WITH SOME THINGS HE SAID AND I DON'T AGREE WITH SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS HE SAID.I DON'T THINK IT'S HARDLY ANY SAVINGS TO THE COUNTY.
WHAT WILL YOU DO WITH THE STAFF? YOU'LL GET RID OF THE STAFF? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING STAFF SOMEWHERE ELSE SO WE'RE NOT SAVING MONEY THERE. YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY THEM. IS THERE A SAVINGS? OF COURSE, NOT.
THAT'S NOT A SAVINGS. WHEN PEOPLE SAY WE HAVE TO HEAR.
TO HEAR AT THE COURTHOUSE, THIS IS CALLED THE HUB. THIS IS THE HUB.
PEOPLE COME TO DO BUSINESS AT THE COURTHOUSE AND IT'S EASIER TO FILE HERE BECAUSE THEY'LL TAKE CARE TO THE COURT AND ANYTHING ELSE THEY HAVE TO DO IS VERY SIMPLE AND THEY'LL DO IT HERE AT THIS COURT.
>> THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THE HUB HERE AND YOU HAVE TO GO. SO THIS IS WHY MOST OF THE CASES ARE IN THIS COURT HERE. NOW WE'LL CLOSE 12 AND MOVE EVERYTHING TO 11 AND NOW YOU'RE DOUBLING THE CASE LOAD IN 11.
HOW MANY STAFF DO YOU WANT TO TRANSFER TO 11 TO HELP THEM PROCESS THOSE CASES? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE TO REALLY WAIT BEFORE THE CASE COMES UP TO COURT. I MENTIONEDMENTIONED COMMISSIONER WAS TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC IN MOST OF THE COURTS. MOST OF THE COURTS BRING IN REVENUE. THE MOST THEY BRING IN IS TRAFFIC. THAT'S A MONEYMAKER IS TRAFFIC AND IT'S 45% AND THE 65% AND THAT'S TRAFFIC, AND YOU CAN DO A TON OF CASES AND TRAFFIC IN ONE WEEK, AND YOU CAN ONLY DO 95 BECAUSE CIVIL TAKES TIME.
IT TAKES MORE, AND SMALL CLAIMS. EVICTIONS, YOU HAVE TO DO EVICTIONS WHEN THEY FILE EVICTIONS IN THAT PRECINCT. THEY SHOP AROUND FOR A JOB.
THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE HER, BUT FOR US TO GO AND TELL A JUDGE, YOUR HONOR, THE JUDGES ARE JUST LIKE COUNTY COURT. YOU CAN'T TELL THEM HOW TO RUN THEIR COURT. THEY RUN THEIR COURT.
SO WE'RE NOT HERE TO TELL A JUDGE OR A CONSTABLE HOW TO RUN HIS OFFICE.
IF HE HAS ENOUGH CASES WE CAN TALK TO HIM, BUT WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO IF HE DOESN'T WANT TO DISCLOSE THE CASE? HE RUNS THAT COURT.
HE CONTROLS THAT COURT. SO I CONSIDER IT IN THE LEVEL THAT THE COUNTY COURTS ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS WHAT I NEEDED FOR IT TO GIVE ME WHAT I NEED TO RUN MY COURT. SO THIS IS PART OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. YOU KNOW, AND THE DATA -- THAT COMMISSIONER PUSLEY WAS TALKING ABOUT A WHILE AGO, MAYBE WE HAVE DIFFERENT NUMBERS THAN WHAT HE HAD.
IT SAYS HERE, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE COURT HAS BEEN VERY CONSISTENT IN HOLDING THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MAY CREATE A CHANGE NECESSARY ARBITRARY AND GENERALLY FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE PEOPLE.
THIS IS NOT FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE PEOPLE.
THIS IS AN INCONVENIENCE TO THE PEOPLE.
SO NOW YOU TAKE THIS COURT AND NOW YOU'LL INCONVENIENCE PEOPLE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CASES, THE COURTS, THE ONES THAT I LOOKED UP, ANDAND HAVE THE SAME THING COMMISSIONER MAREZ HAD AND IT'S A LOT OF DATA.
I GOT THIS FROM THE COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE TO SHOW HOW MANY CASESCASES THERE AND HOW MANY CASES WERE OPEN.
TO ME IF YOU HAVE 16 CASES THAT WERE CLOSED, AND HE'S CLOSING THE CASES. THERE ARE 5,000 CASES CLOSED.
13 HAS 1,000. 21 HAS 19,000, AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHY YOU SAY TRAFFIC COMES IN.
22, 10,000. 3, 87,000. 4 IS 4,000.
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5,000. AND 5- 2 IS ALMOST 2,000.SO MOSTLY -- MOST OF THE COURTS --
>> CLOSED CASES. MOST OF THE COURTS ARE COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES AND IT'S MORE LIKE APPLES TO ORANGES AND MOST OF THE COURTS ARE THE LOWEST COURTS AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY CLOSING CASES AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY MOVING CASES. SO IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSOLIDATE. I THINK WE'RE MOVING TOO FAST ON THIS ONE RID RIGHT NOW. MAYBE PRECINCT 4 -- IT WAS ONLY DOING 5,000 CASES A YEAR. WHY NOT BRING THEM IN.
HOW FAR ARE WE FROM RODRIGUEZ? THE TRAVEL IS NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE. I THINK THE PEOPLE DESERVE A CHANCE TO SAY, HEY, OKAY. LET ME SEE WHAT YOU'VE GOT. LET ME SEE THE DATA AND THERE IS A LOT OF DATA, YOU KNOW? BUT I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT IT YOU WILL SEE THAT UNDER THE TOP COURTS, 11, 12, 21 AND 22. THOSE ARE THE TOP COURTS, RIGHT? THE OTHER COURTS, MAYBE YOU CAN MOVE AROUND AND CONSOLIDATE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO, BUT IT'S NOT THE TIME TO DO THAT.
HE'S GOING TO RETIRE, YOU KNOW? INDISCERNIBLE ] WHAT HAPPENS IF HE DOESN'T RETIRE?
>> JUDGE BENAVIDEZ, ONCE YOU FINISH WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
>> IT DOESN'T MATTER. SO WE HAVE TO REMOVE IT? UNTIL THE PERSON IS ELECTED THEY HAVE NO PROPERTY IN THE POSITION TO DO IT.
>> WE ARE TRYING TO DO IT TO NOT HURT SOMEONE SPENDING MONEY, BUT SHE'S SAYING NOW IT'S NOT REQUIRED TO BE AN OPEN SEAT.
>> OH, YEAH. WE JUST WOULDN'T CONSIDER DOING IT. YES.
>> HE WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING TO THE COURT, IF THAT'S OKAY.
>> I TOLD HIM WHEN YOU FINISH I WOULD LET HIM SPEAK, SO
POQUITO. >> HONORABLE JUDGE AND HONORABLE COMMISSIONERS. SORRY I'M DRESSED LIKE THIS, I GOT BACK FROM AN APPOINTMENT, ROOT CANAL, BUT ANYWAY.
I'M KIND OF BEHIND THE CURVEBALL AND I KNOW MIKE PUSLEY OR COMMISSIONER PUSLEY BROUGHT THIS UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT.
FIRST AND FOREMOST WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CATER TO OUR CONSTITUENTS.
I HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE KYLE ISLAND COURTHOUSE STAYS THERE BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU'RE PUSHINGPUSHING YOU BRING WHOEVER, IF WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE OR DO AWAY WITH JUDGE SANTANA'S COURTROOM IT WILL CREATE A LOT OF PROBLEMS. I'M UNDERSTAFFED AS IT IS. RIGHT NOW TO THIS DAY WE FINALLY GOT OUR CLERKS, BUT THEY DON'T STAY VERY LONG BECAUSE THEY DON'T GET PAID VERY MUCH AND WE ARE OVERWHELMED, THEY ARE OVERWHELMED, BUT THEY'RE POSITIVE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S REVENUE OR PROPERTY TAXES ABOUT ELIMINATING A CERTAIN COURTHOUSE OUT IN KYLE ISLAND OR AGUA DULCE.
IF YOU'LL, ELIMINATE ANYTHING IT WOULD BE THOSE OUT THERE. I HAVE A COLLEAGUE OF MINE THAT HAS THE SAME ISSUE WHERE THEY COMBINED THE COURTROOM BECAUSE ONE COURTROOM -- BECAUSE IF THIS IS GOING TO ACTUALLY HAPPEN WE'RE GOING TO CREATE -- EVERYTHING WILL BE STAGNANT, SO WHAT WE NEED IF THIS OCCURS AND AND YOU ALL GO ON A VOTING PROCESS HERE, THIS COLLEAGUE OF MINE FROM HARRIS COUNTY CREATED ONE COURTROOM.
HE IS TOTALLY DESIGNED AS THE ONE WE HAVE DOWNSTAIRS.
ONE COURTROOM HE DESIGNED IT AS A CIVIL AND THE OTHER ONE
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AS CRIMINAL. I DO VERY LITTLE TRUANCY NOW, BUT I DO A LOT OF JUVENILE OFFENSES ALL OVER NUECES COUNTY. ON TUESDAY AND THURSDAY MORNINGS DOWNSTAIRS IT'S PACKED WITH JUVENILES AND THEIR PARENTS. SO I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING FROM TRUANCY AND JUVENILE OFFENSES. THERE WAS NO WAY.IT'S JUST TOO MUCH FOR THE CLERK, AND WE HAD TWO CLERKS BACK THEN, AND IT JUST -- IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
I SAY TO ADDRESS OUR CONSTITUENTS, THAT WE NEED THAT COURTROOM OUT THERE IN KYLE ISLAND, AND IF WE KEEP THIS ONE HERE IT WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH A BALANCE JUST LIKE IT IS NOW.
I KNOW WE TAKE THE GIST OF ALL THE CASES, FOR WHAT REASON, I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF CASES, THOUSANDS, AND I'M ALWAYS PUSHING LORRAINE, MY COURT MANAGER TO DO BETTER TO PUSH HARDER AND IT'S TOUGH, AND I SEE IT ALSO.
I SEE THE PICTURE AND WE DON'T HAVE THE CLERKS.
THEY DON'T GET PAID. WE HIRED TWO CLERKS -- THREE CLERKS IN THE PAST EIGHT MONTHS AND THEY QUIT.
THERE'S NO WAY THEY WILL SEE ALL THAT WORK AND FOR WHAT THEY GET PAID, IT'S JUST TERRIBLE. SO I JUST HOPE THAT YOU ALL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS, COMMISSIONERS, AND HONORABLE JUDGE, THAT WE TRY TO GET ALL OF THE NUMBERS TOGETHER AND SEE WHO EXACTLY -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL ARE LOOKING AT HOW MUCH REVENUE IS BROUGHT INTO THE COUNTY OR ELIMINATING COURTROOMS FOR WHAT REASONS? I DON'T KNOW. I JUST DON'T.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. I THINK WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IS PRETTY GOOD BECAUSE IT KIND OF PUSHES A LOT OF CASES OVER TO MY NEXT DOOR COLLEAGUE JUDGE SANTANA, BUT NOT HAVING THAT COURTROOM -- I MEAN, THAT'S UP TO YOU ALL. IT MAKES IT LESS OF AN IMPACT ON US ON THE WORKLOAD, BUT WE DO TAKE A LOT OF CASES, AND I'M PRETTY SURE YOU ALL SEE THAT, AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT I HOPE WE MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS AS A BODY, AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE CON STITUENTS AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE COURTROOMS ACCESSIBLE TO OUR CONSTITUENTS.
I LOOK AT AGUA DULCE AND HOW MANY CASES THEY HAVE AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING ONE JP COURTROOM, LAWRENCE OUT IN BISHOP, HE'S THE ONLY JUDGE OUT THERE, I DO BELIEVE THAT THE PROXIMITY OF AGUA BULLSY AND ROBSTOWN, THEY'RE SO CLOSE TOGETHER THAT YOU COULD PROBABLY HAVE ONE JP OUT THERE, MAYBE AND YOU HAVE NIBLET, AND START CONSOLIDATING EVERYONE AND THERE IS A WAY TO SAVE MONEY AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE OUTSIDE COURTROOMS. I'M TALKING LIKE THIS BECAUSE OF MY TOOTH. MY ROOT CANAL.
THAT, AND IT'S A BASIC COMMON SENSE APPROACH WHERE YOU LOOK AT EVERYTHING, AND IF YOU WANT THE FOUR JPS AND THE FIVE JP COURTHOUSES, IT CAN BE DONE BECAUSE THIS WENT TOO FAST AND A LOT OF THE NUMBERS ARE OUT THERE.
>> I THINK THAT'S FOR FUTUREFUTURE DISCUSSION. NONE OF THAT WOULD BE DISCUSSED AND THANKFULLY THAT WOULD BE FOR FUTURE STUDY AND PLANNING FOR SURE, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO, AS YOU SAID, WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE JP COURTS.
>> THEY CLOSED 2,000 CASES, ABOUT 2,500 WHICH IS PRETTY LOW.
>> ANYWAY. ARE YOU FINISHED? I'M SORRY.
>> IN CLOSING, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO REACH THIS WHOLE THING AND HAVE ANOTHER HEARING AND LOOK BACK AND GIVE PEOPLE THETHE OPPORTUNITY TO SOAK IT IN. MOST OF WHAT I HEARD TODAY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HEY, YOU'RE DOING THIS FROM ONE DAY TO THE OTHER AND NOT GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS THEY CAN MAKE AND ESPECIALLY PEOPLE THAT WANT TO RUN FOR OFFICE OR DON'T WANT TO RUN FOR OFFICE, BUT I THINK THE REMOVAL FROM THE COURT IS AN INCONVENIENCE TO THOSE THAT DO WORK AT THE COURTHOUSE AND ANOTHER ONE, TOO.
IT'S NOT THE SAME, FOR SURE, BUT IN MY OPINION, WE LOOK AT THE STATS AND THAT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK REAL HARD AT OTHERS BEFORE WE LOOK HARD AT WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, SO AGAIN,
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I'M CONCERNED ABOUT STAFF AND WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO AND WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PUT THEM AND WE CAN SAY THAT WE'LL PUT THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE AND WE'LL GO THROUGH TWO ALREADY AND WE'LL GET RID OF STAFF AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT AND WE GET RID OF STAFF. THEY WON'T EVEN TRANSFER THEM, WE'LL GET RID OF THEM AND YOU HAVE TO REAPPLY.I DON'T THINK ANYONE SHOULD HAVE TO REAPPLY.
I THINK THEY SHOULD JUST BE TRANSFERRED AND THIS IS WHERE I STAND ON IT, AND AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE MOVING TOO FAST AND WE SHOULD RECONSIDER AND WE LOOK AT IT AGAIN IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE THAN WE
TAKE A COUPLE OF WEEKS. >> THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? DID I SKIP OVER YOU?
I'M SORRY. >> A COUPLE OF CLARIFICATION, YOUR HONOR. ONE OF THE THINGS AND I MENTIONED THIS IN THE NEWS MEDIA, AND I WANT TO BRING THIS UP AGAIN, AND JUDGE, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS I DO.
ALL OF US HERE ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE IS PAYING ATTENTION, BUT WE BETTER BE, THE LEGISLATURE OF THIS STATE HAS A MISSION AND THEY'RE ALL A BUNCH OF REPUBLICANS AND I DON'T AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO, I'LL TELL YOU THAT, STRAIGHT UP, BUT THEY ARE ON A MISSION TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF PROPERTY TAXES THAT PEOPLE PAY IN THIS STATE, PERIOD. WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS SENDING A MESSAGE THEY HAVE FOR THE LAST THREE LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS, THEY HAVE REDUCED OUR ABILITY TO RAISE TAXES ABOVE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE.
IT USED TO BE 8% AND THEN THEY REDUCED IT TO 3. 5 AND DURING A SPECIAL SESSION HERE JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO THERE WAS LEGISLATION TO REDUCE THAT TO 1%.
>> ONE. >> AND I WILL GUARANTEE YOU THE NEXT LATEST SESSION, THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK.
>> YES. >> AND BETTENCOURT AND THOSE GUYS WILL BRING IT BACK AND MY GUESS IS THEY'LL GET IT PASSED AND THAT WILL HAVE A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON HOW WE DO BUSINESS HERE IN THIS COUNTRY. SO WE'VE GOT TO START LOOKING AT EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO SAVE MONEY AND TO -- AND I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH IT IS, BUT DISCRETIONARY SPENDING IS GOING TO BE OUT THE DOOR. THE MESSAGE FROM THEM IS WE WANT YOU DOING WHAT YOU'RE CONSTITUTIONALLY REQUIRED TO DO. THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION THAT SAYS WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL LITTLE LEAGUE PARK. THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION THAT SAYS WE HAVE TO HAVE APPEAR.
THEY'RE GOING AFTER ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, AND SO WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY AS WE GO FORWARD IN OUR BUDGETING PROCESSES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WILL ALSO SAVE US A LITTLE MONEY JUST THIS YEAR IS OUR CONSTABLES ARE CONSTITUTIONALLY REQUIRED TO SERVICE YOUR COURTS WHENEVERWHENEVER IT'S NECESSARY FOR THEM TO DO SO. SO THAT'S ANOTHER CONSIDERATION WE HAVE.
>> IT'S THEIR NUMBER ONE DUTY. THE NUMBER ONE CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY.
>> THEY DON'T. I GET COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT. THEY DON'T.
>> WITH RESPECT TO THE EMPLOYEES AND JUDGE, YOU MAKE A GOOD COMMENT AND THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY AND WE HAVE SOME EXPERIENCED EMPLOYEES FOR JUDGE SANTANA AND I'M VERY WELL OF THE FACT FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY WE CAN ADD STAFF TO WHEREVER WE NEED TO, BUT I THINK COMMISSIONERCOMMISSIONER MAREZ BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT IN THAT WE CAN USE THIS NEXT 12 MONTHS AND WE NEED TO MAKE IT A PRIORITY TO PLAN WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH OUR JP COURTS AND FOR EXAMPLE, JUDGE RUBIO SHARED WITH ME THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE CASES SHE HEARS NOW SHE DOES WITH ZOOM. WELL, IF YOU HAVE AN OVERBALANCE OF CRIMINAL CASES, MAYBE WE HELP YOU WITH THE CASES THAT WE OVERLOAD. I THINK THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT BECAUSE JUDGE SANTANA WILL BE HERE. AND WE HAVE THIS YEAR AND NEXTIER TO MAKE PLANS AND I'M WILLING TO INCLUDE THAT IN MY MOTION IF WE NEED TO DO THAT.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, JUDGE, IS MODIFY MY ORIGINAL MOTION TO THIS, TO CLOSE THE JP COURT 21 AND USE THE NEXT TWO MONTHS --
>> MY DYSLEXIA KICKED IN. I APOLOGIZE.
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JP COURT 12 AND USE THE NEXT 12 MONTHS TO STUDY HOW WE WILL MAKE OUR JP COURTS MORE EFFICIENT AND PREPARE FOR POSSIBLE FUTURE COURT CLOSINGS OR CONSOLIDATIONS ALL FOR THE BENEFITS OF OUR TAXPAYERS AND CONSTITUENTS.>> I WOULD AMEND MY SECOND TO --
>> IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, THEN? THEN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> JUDGE WOULD IT BE PRUDENT TO GO AHEAD AND MAYBE FOLLOW UP ON COMMISSIONER PUSLEY'S MOTION TO FORM A COMMITTEE TO DO THAT OR SOMETHING TO GET GOING ON THAT?
>> I'D LIKE TO WORK WITH JUDGE GONZALEZ TO DO IT.
HE'S GOT MORE EXPERIENCE THAN ANYBODY ON THIS COURT WITH JP COURTS, BUT THAT'S UP TO HIM.
IT'S NOT LIKE HE AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO.
>> WOULD YOU TAKE THAT ON, JUDGE GONZALEZ I WILL APPOINT YOU TO THAT COMMITTEE TO OVERSEE THAT AND THE BOTH OF YOU CAN --
>> I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPOINT COMMISSIONER PUSLEY AND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ TO THE COMMITTEE TO REVIEW AND LOOK AT ALL OF OUR JP COURTS TO SEE ABOUT CONSOLIDATION OVER FUTURE ELIMINATION OF ANY OTHER COURTS.
>> JUDGE, WE'LL CERTAINLY BE GETTING YOUR INPUT ON IT.
>> I THINK YOU SHOULD GET WITH ALL JPS. ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S MY
MOTION. >> DO YOU SECOND, COMMISSIONER?
>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED. >> THE MOTION PASSES.
I THINK THAT'S ALL OF OUR BUSINESS.
DO WE HAVE ANY ADJOURNMENTS IN
>> DO YOU, COMMISSIONER, IF YOU'RE READY, COMMISSIONER
GONZALEZ. >> THEY STARTED THE HAMMERING JUST IN TIME.
FIRST. >> DR. DAVID MARK CHAPMAN.
72 OF CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS, BORN ON SEPTEMBER 27, 1952, IN KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI.
TO THE LATE SAMUEL B. CHAPMAN PASSED AWAY ON AUGUST 28, 2025. ON JUNE 17, 1972, HE MARRIED THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE DEBORAH RUTH CHAPMAN IN LEEWOOD, KANSAS. TOGETHER THEY SHARED 52 YEARS OF MARRIAGE AND BUILT A FAMILY ROUNDED ON DEVOTION AND LOVE.
KANSAS CITY, 1975, WITH A BACHELOR OF ART DEGREE IN CHEMISTRY AND IN 1979 EARNED HIS DOCTORATE OF DENTAL SURGERY DEGREE FROM THE SAME INSTITUTION. IN 1980 HE OPENED HIS DENTAL PRACTICE IN CORPUS CHRISTI WHERE HE FAITHFULLY SERVED THE KYLE ISLAND AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITY FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS. HIS LEGACY WILL CONTINUE AT THE PRACTICE HE LOVED SO DEARLY THROUGH HIS SON FRED AND HIS WONDERFUL STAFF. HE WAS KNOWN FOR HIS KINDNESS AND COMPASSION.
HE CARED DEEPLY FOR HIS PATIENTS AND LEFT A LASTING IMPRESSION ON EVERYONE WHO KNEW HIM.
HE IS SURVIVED BY HIS LOVING WIFE DEBORAH, HIS SONS BRAD CHAPMAN MARRIED TO ELISSA AND BLAKE CHAPMAN AND KRISTY AND HIS SIX GRANDCHILDREN, MCKENNA, CHASE, LOGAN, LUKE, REAGAN AND KENSLY AND HIS NEPHEW NATHAN. HIS FAMILY WILL REMEMBER HIM AS A GENTLE SOUL WHOSE PRESENCE BROUGHT WARMTH, COMFORT AND UNCONDITIONAL LOVE.
HE WAS A LONGTIME MEMBER OF THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH AND WAS BLESSED WITH MANY FRIENDS WHO WERE LIKE MANY FOR MANY YEARS WITH WHOM HE AND HIS WIFE DEBORAH HAD BIBLE CLASSES. HE WILL BE MISSED BY FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND CHURCH- GOING FRIENDS AND MY CONDOLENCES AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO THE FAMILY.
>> YES. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER PUSLEY, ARE YOU READY?
>> YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR AND THIS ONE IS CLOSE TO HOME AND
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DIFFICULT. ALEXANDRA PAIGE TEGLER WAS BORN ON OCTOBER 24, 1999 AND PASSED AWAY ON SEPTEMBER 26 OF THIS YEAR AT THE AGE OF 26.WITH DEEP SORROW AND ABIDING FAITH PAIGE PASSED AWAY ON SEPTEMBER 26TH AFTER A COURAGEOUS BATTLE WITH CANCER.
THOUGH HER TIME WITH US WAS SHORT, HER LAUGH WAS A RADIANT TESTIMONY UPON STRENGTH, JOY AND UNWAVERING TRUST IN GOD. PAIGE WAS BORN IN CORPUS CRIST OWE OCTOBER 24TH OF 1999 TO CURTIS AND SANDY TEGLER. FROM FROM FROM A YOUNG AGE SHE WAS DRAWN TO THE OUTDOORS AND ANIMALS. HER PASSION FOR VESTOCK AND CATTLE BLOSSOMED.
SHE WANTED TO UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM QUITE LITERALLY INSIDE AND OUT. AFTER ATTENDING HIGH SCHOOL, PAIGE ATTENDED TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY WHERE SHE MAJORED IN MEAT SCIENCE AND SHE TRULY THRIVED THERE AND WAS EMBRACED BY A COMMUNITY OF TEACHERS AND PEERED.
SHE BLOSSOMED FROM A SHY GIRL INTO A CONFIDENT AND ACCOMPLISHED YOUNG ITEM. PAIGE WENT ON TO EARN HER MASTERS IN TEXAS TECH. SHE WAS HUMBLY CELEBRATED AND PROUD OF. SHE WAS THEN ACCEPTED INTO THE PH.D PROGRAM AT KANSAS STATE -- EXCUSE ME, UNIVERSITY, WHERE SHE BEGAN RESEARCHING THE SYNDROME EVEN WHEN HER ILLNESS FORCED HER TO BE HOME FOR TREATMENT SHE NEVER COMPLAINED. INSTEAD, SHE FACED HER DIAGNOSIS WITH RESOLVE, GRACE AND A STEADFAST FAITH IN GOD THAT NEVER WAIVERED.
PAIGE HAD A GIFT OF CONNECTING. PEOPLE, SHE LOVED TALKING TO THE PHONE WITH HER FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND ENJOYED NGING COMFORT TO THOSE ON THE OTHER END. SHE LISTENED WITH GENUINE CARES.
SHE LOVED THE OUTDOORS AND HELPING AND RAISED CATTLE ON THE FAMILY RANCH.
PAIGE IS SURVIVED BY HER LOVING PARENTS CURTIS AND SANDY TEGLER, HER SISTER HALEY AND HER GRANDMOTHER DIANA TURNER AND KITTY ROTH AND A NUMBER OF OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS, COUSINS AND EXTENDED FAMILY.
OUR SINCERE CONDOLENCES TO PAIGE'S FAMILY AND FRIENDS. THANK YOU.
>> YES. OUR CONDOLENCES. DO YOU HAVE ONE? YES, GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.
THE FIRST ONE IS DAVID BALLSCHWHEELER WHO PASSED AWAY PEACEFULLY ON MONDAY SEPTEMBER 29TH, 2025, AT THE AGE OF 76. HE IS SURVIVED BY HIS WIFE OF 53 YEARS. MARIANNE, HIS CHILDREN, AMY, JULIE, GRANDCHILDREN JORDAN, JUSTIN, EMILY AND ZOE. DAVID GRADUATED FROM CORPUS CHRISTI ACADEMY IN 1976 AND WENT ON TO EARN HIS B.A. IN 1974 AND WENT ON TO TEACH AND COACH WHERE HE WAS MY JUNIOR HIGH BASKETBALL COACH AT KING HIGH SCHOOL AND BAKER MIDDLE SCHOOL. HE WILL BE REMEMBERED BY HIS DETAILED STORIES AND THE LOVE OF HIS FAMILY AND HIS DEDICATION TO HIS FAITH AND DEVOTED PASSION FOR THE GAME OF BASEBALL. HE WAS ESPECIALLY KNOWN FOR HIS OUTGOING PERSONALITY AS HE MADE SURE HE DID NOT EVER KNOW A STRANGER.
HIS GREATEST ACCOMPLISHMENT BESIDES HIS CHILDREN WERE PITCHING TWO PERFECT GAMES AND ONE AT CORPUS CHRISTI ACADEMY ALONG PITCHING A NO- HITTER AGAINST THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS. AFTER RETIRING, HIS DREAM JOB WAS USHERING FOR THE WERE COUS CORPUS CHRISTI HOOKS AND WE EXTEND OUR CONDOLENCES TO THE BALLSCHWEALER FAMILY AND COACH B AS WE CALLED HIM.
JESUS REYNA PASSED AWAY ON OCTOBER 5, 2025, AFTER A COURAGEOUS BATTLE WITH PARKINSON'S.
HE WAS IN THE MARINE CORPS IN THE UNITED STATES -- I'M SORRY. HE PROUDLY SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS AND THE UNITED STATES ARMY IN 1978.
THEY LIVED TOGETHER IN CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS, RAISING THEIR ONLY DAUGHTER LISA. JESSE WORKED FOR THE POSTAL SERVICE FOR 30 YEARS.
HE SAID ONCE A BUCK, ALWAYS A BUCK.
HIS SATURDAYS WERE ALWAYS SPEND WATCHING COLLEGE FOOTBALL AND SUNDAYS WERE CHURCH FIRST AND DALLAS COWBOYS NEXT.
HE CHEERED ON THE LONDON PIRATES TO MANY VICTORIES.
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IF HIS GRANDKIDS HAD AN EVENT HE WAS THERE. HE WAS A PARISHIONER AT GUADELOUPE, HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE MOVEMENT NUMBER 227 IN JOURNEY TO DAMASCUS NUMBER 151. HE LEAVES BEHIND AING WELL SEE OF UNWAVERING FAITH AND TRUST IN GOD. WE EXTEND OUR EXTREME CONDOLENCES FOR JESUS "JESSE" REYNA. AND RENALDO MADRIGAL PASSED AWAY PEACEFULLY ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 23, 2025 IN CORPUS CHRISTI SURROUNDED BY HIS LOVING FAMILY AND BORN ON JUNE 21 OFOF IN TEXAS AND RAY LIVED A LIFE MARKED BY SERVICE, DEDICATION AND UNWAVERING PASSION FOR HIS COMMUNITY. HE PROUDLY SERVED IN THE U.S.ARMY DURING THE VIETNAM ERA WHERE HE FELL IN LOVE WITH PHOTOGRAPHY. HIS PASSION LED HIM TO RAY'S PHOTOGRAPHY STUDIO WHERE HE CAPTURED WEDDINGS, QUINCEANERAS AND FAMILY PORTRAITS AND HIS TOUCH LEFT A LEGACY ON FAMILIES IN CORPUS CHRISTI AND BEYOND.
WE EXTEND OUR EXTREME CONDOLENCES AND SINCERE CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF RAY MADRIGAL.
>> THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE COMING, COMMISSIONER MAREZ?
>> I HAVE ONE. ANASTASIA ANA MARIE ROBBIE. SHE WAS BORN FEBRUARY 17, 2023.
AND PASSED AWAY SEPTEMBER 22, 2025. IT IS WITH DEEP SORROW THAT WE LOST ANASTASIA. SHE CHERISHED TIME WITH HER FAMILY AND DEVOTED HERSELF WHOLEHEARTEDLY TO HER BABY GIRL NIECY WHO WAS TRULY THE CENTER OF HER WORLD. SHE WILL BE LOVINGLY REMEMBERED BY HER DAUGHTER NIECY.
HER MOTHER, LISA GARCIA, HER STEPFATHER ESTRAADA AND HER SISTERS SOFIA, JANA AND ELENA AND HER GRANDMOTHER AUNT, WHO WORKS AT THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
HER HOST OF AUNTS, COUSIN, UNCLES AND AUNTS WHO WILL FOREVER HOLD HER CLOSE IN THEIR HEARTS. SHE LOVED MUSIC ADVENTURE.
SHE HAD A GIFT FOR BRINGING JOY TO OTHERS, A PASSION FOR HELPING THOSE IN NEED AND A CARE- FREE HEART THAT CREATED LASTING MEMORIES WITH ALL THOSE WHO KNEW HER. HER JOURNEY WAS FAR TOO SHORT, EXTREMELY SHORT. THE LOVE SHE GAVE AND THE LIGHT SHE CARRIED WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.
HER SPIRIT SPIRITWILL LIVE ON THROUGH HER DAUGHTER, HER FAMILY AND MANY LIVES SHE TOUCHED. SHE WILL BE DEEPLY MISSED AND FOREVER÷÷ CHERISHED. THE VISITATION WAS OCTOBER 2ND AND THE MEMORY SHARING CEREMONY
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