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COME. ALL RIGHT. IF I COULD ASK YOU ALL TO RISE FOR THE INVOCATION. PASTOR RALPH GREEN IS GOING TO INVOCATION TODAY FROM CHRIST CENTRAL BAPTIST CHURCH. IF YOU WILL CONTINUE
STANDING FOR THE PLEDGES. >> IT'S MY HONOR TO BE WITH YOU TODAY. I'M JUST REMINDED VERY QUICKLY OF WHAT THE APOSTLE PAUL SAID IN FIRST TIMOTHY 2: 1. SUPPLICATIONS, PRAYERS AND INTERSESSIONS BE MADE FOR ALL MEN, FOR KINGS AND ALL IN AUTHORITY THAT WE MAY LEAD A QUIET AND PEACEABLE LIFE IN ALL GODLINESS AND REFERENCE. FOR THIS IS GOOD AND ACCEPTABLE FOR OUR SAVIOR. IT'S MY HONOR TO PRAY FOR YOU ALL TODAY AS RULERS AND PEOPLE IN AUTHORITY. LET ME PRAY GOD'S BLESSINGS UPON YOUR TIME TODAY. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR TODAY. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOODNESS TO US. LORD, THANK YOU FOR HEARING RAIN THIS MORNING AT MY HOUSE OUT IN FIVE POINTS. WE DO PRAY FOR RAIN FOR OUR WATER SHEDS THAT YOU'D FILL UP OUR RESERVOIRS AND LAKES AND STREAMS FOR OUR CATTLE AND FARMERS AND RANCHERS. WHAT I PRAY FOR THIS COMMISSIONERS COURT TODAY AND ALL THESE ESTEEMED MEMBERS OF THIS COURT. WISDOM FOR THEM AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS FOR YOUR BLESSING AND FAVOR TO REST UPON THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES THAT YOU WOULD MAKE UP FOR THEM, THE TIME THEY INVEST HERE FOR THE GOOD OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO LORD, THEY HAVE LOTS OF DECISIONS AND IMPORTANT THINGS THAT THEY DO. SO LORD, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM GRACE AND PEACE AND STRENGTH. THAT YOU GIVE THEM WISDOM BEYOND THEIR YEARS. THAT OUR LIVES WOULD BE BLESSED HERE.
AND WE PRAY THIS IN JESUS' NAME. AMEN.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER
GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. >> THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE SEATED.
IT IS WEDNESDAY THE 21ST OF MAY. ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT.
WE ARE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURTROOM AND IT IS 9:04. I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. LET'S SEE. DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES, CONFLICTS OF INTEREST THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCLOSE AT THIS TIME? IF NOT, YOU CAN DO SO IF AN ITEM COMES UP IF YOU FAILED TO DO SO. MOVING ON TO ITEM E. ADOPT THE
[1. Resolution in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month - May 2025.]
FOLLOWING RESOLUTIONS. PROCLAMATIONS AND ORDERS NUMBER 1 TODAY IS A RESOLUTION IN RECOGNITION OF MENTAL HEALTHAWARENESS MONTH MAY OF 2025. >> HI. WHEREAS, MENTAL HEALTH IS PART OF OVERALL HEALTH. AND WHEREAS 1 IN 5 U.S. ADULTS EXPERIENCE MENTAL ILLNESS IN ANY GIVEN YEAR YEAR BUT LESS THAN HALF RECEIVE TREATMENT. AND WHEREAS 50% OF ALL LIFE TIME MENTAL ILLNESS BEGINS BY AGE 14. AND 75% BY AGE 24. BECAUSE OF THIS, EARLY INTERVENTION AND EDUCATION ARE KEY AND SHOULD BE A TOP PRIORITY. AND WHEREAS, 47% OF U.S. ADULTS WITH MENTAL ILLNESS RECEIVED TREATMENT IN 2021 WHICH SHOWS A GREAT NEED FOR OTHERS WHO AREN'T RECEIVING LIFE-CHANGING SERVICES. AND WHEREAS, AVERAGE DELAY BETWEEN ON SET OF MENTAL ILLNESS SYMPTOMS AND TREATMENT IS 11 YEARS. NOT RECEIVING TREATMENT CAN RESULT IN HEALTH PROBLEMS, SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND SUICIDE. AND WHEREAS, SUICIDE IS THE SECOND LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH AMONG PEOPLE BETWEEN AGE 10 TO 24. AND THE 12TH LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH OVERALL IN THE UNITED STATES. AND WHEREAS, DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY DISORDERS COST THE GLOBAL ECONOMY $1 TRILLION IN LOST PRODUCTIVITY EACH YEAR AND DEPRESSION IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DISABILITY WORLDWIDE. AND WHEREAS, THROUGHOUT EDUCATION AND WORKING TOGETHER TO RAISE AWARENESS, WE CAN HELP IMPROVE THE LIVES OF INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES AFFECTED BY MENTAL ILLNESS. AND NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF NUECES COUNTY DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MAY 2025 TO BE MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH IN NUECES
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COUNTY. AND FURTHER ENCOURAGES OUR COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER TO HELP END THE SILENCE AND STIGMA OF MENTAL ILLNESS.TOGETHER WE CAN REALIZE OUR SHARED VISION OF A COMMUNITY WHERE ANYONE AFFECTED BY MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS CAN GET THE APPROPRIATE SUPPORT AND CARE TO LIVE HEALTHY AND FULFILLING LIVES. DULY ADOPTED BY VOTE OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OFNYNY COUNTY, TEXAS ON THIS DAY THE 21ST DAY OF MAY 2025.
>> THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. HEATHER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK
ON BEHALF OF NAMI? >> HI, I'M HEATHER WITH NAMI.
MAY IS MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH. WHILE MENTAL HEALTH SHOULD BE SPOKE ABOUT EVERY MONTH, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT I DO, IT'S A GREAT TIME TO SPOTLIGHT MENTAL HEALTH. SO ONE IN FIVE AMERICANS DO HAVE MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS BUT THAT'S JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE REPORTED THEIR MENTAL ILLNESS.
THAT DOESN'T SPEAK TO THE MILLIONS WHO ARE AFRAID TO GO TO THE DOCTOR WHO AREN'T SEEKING HELP BECAUSE OF STIGMA. THAT'S A HUGE PROBLEM. THE MORE WE OPENLY SPEAK ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH THE MORE WE CHIP AWAY AT STIGMA WHICH CAN BE DEADLY. THIS IS WHY WE TALK. THIS IS WHY WE DON'T STOP TALKING. THIS MONTH GIVES HOPE TO THOSE WHO MIGHT BE STRUGGLING IN SILENCE SO THEY CAN SHARE THEIR STORY WE CAN SHARE OURS AND KNOW THEY AREN'T ALONE. THEY AREN'T. IT'S A GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE UGLY TRUTHS, LIKE HOW SUICIDE DEATHS ARE RISING. LIKE SHE MENTIONED, SUICIDE IS THE 12TH LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH IN THE U.S., WHICH IS A TRAGEDY. IT'S THE SECOND LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR PEOPLE AGES 10 TO 14. I HAVE A 10-YEAR-OLD AND BECAUSE IT'S THE SECOND LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR 10 TO 14-YEAR-OLDS I HAD TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH HER AND IT WAS NOT ONE THAT I WANTED TO HAVE. AND THAT JUST SCARES ME TO DEATH. AND THEN SUICIDE IS THE THIRD LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR AGES 15 TO 24 THAT'S JUST -- THAT HURTS MY HEART. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH. IT'S MORE THAN SELF-CARE AND COPING SKILLS. BUT IT'S LIFE AND DEATH ALSO. SO THAT'S WHY WE TALK. THAT'S WHY WE DON'T STOP TALKING. THE CONVERSATION
STARTS NOW WITH US. >> THANK YOU.
>> GO AHEAD. >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY YOU TOUCHED ON THIS, HEATHER, IT'S REALLY IMPRESSIVE THE WORK THAT EVERYBODY DOES BUT ESPECIALLY YOU AND I'M NOT TRYING TO SINGLE YOU OUT. I KNOW WHAT'S WHAT YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR.
YOU DO THIS ALL THE TIME. I SEE YOUR STUFF ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I SEE WHAT YOU DO. VERY COURAGEOUS. VERY IMPRESSIVE NOT THE RIGHT WORD, BUT THAT'S WHAT COMES TO MIND. THIS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO NOT ONLY DO AS YOU SAID THIS MONTH BUT YEAR ROUND. I KNOW ALL THE EFFORTS THAT SO MANY PEOPLE DO.
I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO TO CREATE AWARENESS.
I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY BUT YOU DO IT EFFECTIVELY AND CONSISTENTLY
AND IT'S VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. >> ABSOLUTELY. GO AHEAD.
>> I KNOW YOU NOT HERE TO PROMOTE. I'LL PROMOTE FOR YOU.
YOU HAVE YOUR EVENT ON THE 31ST OF THIS MONTH. I'D LOVE TO GO BUT THAT'S HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION FOR ME. THAT'S A BUSY DAY WITH OUR FAMILY AND MY SON. I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THE ISSUE OF SUICIDE. MY DAUGHTER WAS IMPACTED. THERE WAS A YOUNG MAN WHO TOOK HIS LIFE ON THE DAY HE WAS SUPPOSED TO GRADUATE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN. I HEARD JUST A WEEK PRIOR THERE WAS A YOUNG PERSON WHO TOOK THEIR LIFE AT A&M COLLEGE STATION. BEST TIME OF THEIR LIFE THEY MADE A DIFFICULT DECISION AND MAYBE DIDN'T HAVE THE SUPPORT. LIKE YOU SAID, THE MORE WE TALK ABOUT IT. I THINK THAT'S THE WAY WE CAN HONOR THOSE WHO HAVE PASS THE. AND STRENGTHEN THOSE THAT NEED THE STRENGTH AND LET THEM KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CARE.
THERE ARE RESOURCES THAT MATTER AND THAT THEY CAN GET THE HELP THEY NEED. THIS IS NOT BAD OR WRONG TO FEEL THIS WAY. THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS OR GROUPS THAT CAN HELP BE THERE AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE TO HELP LITERALLY SAVE THEIR LIVES. I APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH EVERY YEAR TO COME AND HIGHLIGHT THIS. IT'S NOT JUST ONE TIME A YEAR. IT'S YEAR ROUND. AND AS PARENTS IT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T WANT TO TALK TO OUR KIDS ABOUT. WE NEED TO LET THEM KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT THEY FEEL ANY ISSUES LIKE THIS THAT THEY TALK TO THE PARENT OR TO SOMEONE ELSE THAT THEY TRUST. AND MAYBE THAT WILL OPEN THE DOOR TO HELP GET THEM THE SUPPORT THEY NEED IN SHORT TERM OR A LIFE LONG STRUGGLE.
BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO FOR YOUR GROUP. THANK
YOU. >> YES. AND I HAD THE GREAT HONOR AND PRIVILEGE OF REPRESENTING NAMI AT THEIR EVENT
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THIS YEAR ON THE JEOPARDY GAME THING.>> CAN YOU PLEASE RECORD THAT? BECAUSE I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO
SEE JUDGE SCOTT ON JEOPARDY. >> NOT THIS SATURDAY BUT THE FOLLOWING SATURDAY. WHAT DATE IS THAT? I WAS TRYING TO GIVE YOU A PLUG TO HELP GET PEOPLE. ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO ATTEND AND GET A GOOD LAUGH AND I'M VERY COMPETITIVE. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME LITTLE TRAINING SESSIONS. I APPRECIATE THEY'RE COMING IN AND GOING TO HELP ME. IT IS, YOU KNOW, LAUGHTER ASIDE IT IS FOR A GREAT CAUSE. WE DO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO AND THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING AND STUFF. MY TEAM OFFICE STAFF AS WELL IS LOOKING FORWARD TO ATTENDING AND HELPING TO CHEER ME ON AS WELL. WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR YOU.
A RESOLUTION. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND YOUR TEAM AS WELL WE'D LIKE TO DO A PHOTO WITH YOU.
[1. The Court will receive Senate Resolution #42 that was previously adopted at the State Capitol on February 12, 2025, for Coastal Bend Days at the State Capitol. ]
>> MOVING ON TO ITEM F. WE HAVE MK WALLING HERE TO PRESENT THE RESOLUTION READ ON THE SENATE FLOOR WHEN WE WERE IN AUSTIN.
SHE HAS BROUGHT THAT FOR THE COURT TO RECEIVE. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE SCOTT AND DISTINGUISHED COMMISSIONERS.
I'M THE DISTRICT DIRECTOR FOR TEXAS STATE SENATOR ADAM ENI HEALTHCARE OSA. IT'S AN HONOR TO PRESENT A SIGNED SENATE RESOLUTION NUMBER 42 DATED FEBRUARY 12, 2025 ON BEHALF OF STATE SENATOR ADAM. RECOGNIZE STATE CAPITOL WITH ITS RICH HISTORY, NATURAL BEAUTY AND DYNAMIC CULTURE. THE COASTAL BEND IS MORE THAN JUST A PLACE. IT IS A THRIVING COMMUNITY WHERE FAMILIES COME TOGETHER FORGING LASTING MEMORIES AND EMBRACING THE REGION'S UNIQUE HERITAGE. FROM ITS BREATHTAKING LANDSCAPES TO ITS COUNTLESS ATTRACTIONS, THIS OFFERS A WEALTH OF RESOURCES THAT FOSTER UNITY AND APPRECIATION. YOUR DEDICATION TO PRESERVING THE BEAUTY AND THE SPIRIT OF THE COASTAL BEND HAS STRENGTHENED THIS COUNTY. SHAPING AN END TO THE VIBRANT COMMUNITY WE CHERISH TODAY. IT IS WITH DEEP ADMIRATION AND GRATITUDE THAT WE RECOGNIZE YOUR EFFORTS AND CELEBRATE THE LEGACY OF THE COASTAL BEND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND PLEASE EXTEND OUR GENEROUS THANK YOUS TO SENATOR AS WELL. I WAS IN AUSTIN WHEN HE READ IT ON THE FLOOR. IT WAS A GREAT DAY FOR THE COASTAL BEND AS WELL. AND I KNOW HE'S QUITE BUSY RIGHT NOW. SO HE COULDN'T BE HERE WITH US TODAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A PHOTO WITH US?
>> I WOULD LOVE TO. >> WHEN YOU ASK SOMEONE IF THEY
WANT TO, HOW DO YOU SAY NO? >> I FEEL BAD FOR EVEN ASKING.
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>> THANK YOU. >> IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WAS NO ONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT AND YOU DID NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP, IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HAND OR DO SO NOW WE'LL ADD
YOU, OTHERWISE I WILL MOVE ON. >> CAN YOU PUT ME DOWN?
>> FOR REAL? UH-HUH. >> FOR REAL.
>> YES. >> LIKE OKAY. I THOUGHT WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT WE DIDN'T DO PUBLIC COMMENT OR SOMETHING UP HERE. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A RULE THAT COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE THE MICROPHONE, YOU'RE ALREADY SPEAKING.
>> THIS IS NOT PART OF THE TOPIC.
>> UH-HUH. >> YEAH, IT'S COUNTY ATTORNEY.
>> WE DISCUSSED THIS WITH COUNTY ATTORNEY?
>> NOT KNOWING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF WHAT YOU ARE WANTING TO DISCUSS, IF IT IS A MATTER OF PUBLIC INTEREST AS DEFINED BY THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT WHICH HAS A SPECIAL PROVISION, THEN THERE ARE -- THERE IS A MECHANISM FOR THAT. HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD THAT DISCUSSION. SO COMMISSIONER, HAVING BEEN GIVEN THE GUIDANCE BEFORE, THAT'S ALL I CAN DO.
>> SO AT WHAT POINT CAN I SPEAK ON A TOPIC THAT'S NOT ON HERE?
>> WELL, IF IT'S -- AND I CAN GIVE YOU THE CODE THAT SHOWS THE EXCEPTION FOR ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST WHICH ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSED OR DATES OF EVENTS COMING UP OR THINGS LIKE THAT, THOSE CAN BE ANNOUNCED WITHOUT BEING NOTICED.
>> I'D LIKE TO ANNOUNCE AN EVENT THAT JUST PASSED.
>> THEN THE OTHER RULES APPLY AS NO DISCUSSION.
>> OH YEAH. I'M NOT ASKING FOR DISCUSSION.
>> OKAY. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY EVENT WE HAD YESTERDAY. I JUST WANT TO THANK THE WHOLE TEAM THAT CAME TOGETHER. DID A GREAT JOB. MANAGEMENT DID AN AWESOME JOB.
PUBLIC WORKS. WELL COME TOGETHER AND THEY DID GREAT. I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR EVERYTHING THEY DID. RAN UNTIL 6:00, 6:30. WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER PUSLEY FOR BEING OUT THERE. APPRECIATE IT.
THING THAT PEOPLE SAW THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT DIDN'T KNOW THEY WEREN'T SURE OF.
AGENCIES OUT THERE. ALL OF THEM ARE SERVICE PROVIDERS OF SOME KIND. BECAUSE OF THAT REALLY WAS A BIG SUCCESS. I APPRECIATE THEM. I JUST THINK THE WHOLE EVENT YESTERDAY WAS A SUCCESS.
BECAUSE EVERYBODY PITCHED IN AND WAS WILLING TO GO THE EXTRA MILE. I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR WHAT THEY DID AND FOR BEING OUT THERE AND FOR THE SUPPORT. BEING OUT THERE WITH THE PEOPLE. I THINK IT MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE. ELECTED OFFICIALS OUT THERE. ALL THOSE AGENTS PROVIDING SUPPORT. AND UNDERSTANDING THEM OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH. THANK
>> I'M GOING TO SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TOO. I THINK THAT'S VERY -- THAT'S A GREAT COMMENT, COMMISSIONER. THANK COMMISSIONER PUSLEY AND MAREZ. I WANT TO THANK YOU AND JUDGE SCOTT BECAUSE YOU JUMPED ON THIS FROM THE GET GO. I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO THANK YOURSELF, BUT REALLY AND TRULY, THERE WAS SOME CRAPPY NEGATIVE THINGS I SAW ONLINE THAT JUST WEREN'T EVEN TRUE. IT'S REALLY SAD WHEN PEOPLE TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE SITUATIONS. IN THE VEIN OF PUBLIC COMMENT I DO WANT TO THANK YOU AND ADD THAT TO THE LIST. THAT'S A BIG DEAL THAT Y'ALL WENT OUT THERE AND DID. SORRY IF THAT VIOLATES ANYTHING,
BUT TOUGH. >> OKAY. WE'RE DONE. PUBLIC
[H. RECESS COMMISSIONERS COURT CONVENE MEETING OF ROAD DISTRICT IV: 1. Discuss and consider allocating funds necessary to build the road previously washed out by the storm and parking lot by Bob Hall Pier per The Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) and safety requirements from the City of Corpus Christi for fire and ambulance services. This is contingent on the Texas General Land Office (GLO) final approval. ADJOURN MEETING OF ROAD DISTRICT IV AND RECONVENE REGULAR MEETING]
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COMMENT IS CLOSED. THANK YOU. WE ARE 9:22. WE ARE GOING TO RECESS COMMISSIONERS COURT AND GO CONVENING THE MEETING OF THE ROAD DISTRICT IV. ITEM H 1. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ALLOCATING FUNDS NECESSARY TO BUILD THE ROAD PREVIOUSLY WASHED OUT BY THE STORM AND PARKING LOT BY THE BOB HALL PIER PER THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT AND SAFETY REQUIREMENTS FROM THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI FOR FIRE AND AMBULANCE SERVICES. THIS MOTION OR THIS WOULD BE CONTINGENT ON THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE, THE TEXAS GLO FINAL APPROVAL. COMMISSIONER, CHESNEY, I BELIEVETHIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> THIS HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS WE'VE DONE THE PRELIMINARY WORK. COULDN'T THINK OF THE WORDS. WE HAVE FUNDED THE PRELIMINARY WORK OUT OF DISTRICT 4 ESPECIALLY IN REGARDS TO THE ROAD THAT WAS WASHED OUT. SO SCOTT, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE THE ROAD CONTINGENT ON THE GLO FINAL, DO WE? IT'S JUST THE PARKING LOT THAT WE'RE WAITING ON FROM THEM. BECAUSE, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON
>> SO BASICALLY THIS WAS A ROAD WASHED OUT. BERYL DID IT WAY
BACK WHEN. >> HANNAH DID IT. THE ROAD WAS KIND OF INTACT BUT WHEN THE GLO STARTED RESPONDING TO REMOVAL OF THE DEBRIS THEY STARTED TEARING INTO THE ROAD AND I SAID NO, DON'T GO ANY FURTHER. I WAS ABLE TO STOP THAT.
>> SO ANYWAY, THIS IS ALREADY PLANNED FOR, ALREADY BUDGETED FOR. IT'S BEEN IN DISTRICT 4 FUNDS. THIS IS JUST THE OFFICIAL MOTION TO DO THAT CONTINGENT UPON THE GLO'S FINAL APPROVAL.
>> YOU SAID WERE WERE WORKING ON THAT.
>> ENGINEER AND DESIGN IS DONE. SEALED AND READY TO GO WHENEVER
WE GET APPROVAL. >> THIS IS THE SECOND PHASE OF THE FIRST PHASE WE'VE FUNDED PRIOR.
>> YES, MA'AM. >> DO WE TAKE THE VOTE IN HERE OR RECESS AND TAKE THE VOTE IN REGULAR?
>> WE TAKE THE VOTE IN HERE. IT'S GOT TO BE DONE IN DISTRICT
4. >> YES, GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER
PUSLEY. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO JUST TO BRING ME UP TO SPEED HERE. WERE THE FUNDS.
>> ROAD DISTRICT 4. IT'S BEEN A WHILE PROBABLY SINCE YOU'VE DONE THIS ONE. I SHOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU MORE BACKGROUND. THERE ARE FUNDS THAT WERE CREATED 40 OR 50 YEARS AGO THIS ROAD DISTRICT IV. THESE FUNDS ARE IN ROAD DISTRICT IV AND CAN ONLY BE USED FOR THE BOUNDARIES WHICH HAPPEN TO BE WITHIN MY PRECINCT BECAUSE I'M PRECINCT IV. BASICALLY THESE FUNDS HAVE BEEN SITTING THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND THEY WILL COME OUT OF THAT. THEY DON'T COME OUT OF GENERAL FUND. THEY DON'T COME OUT OF OUR BUDGET. IT'S A SPECIFIC FUND THAT CAN ONLY BE
USED FOR ROAD DISTRICT IV. >> THIS WAS CREATED WHEN THE COUNTY RAN THE FERRY SYSTEM OVER THERE. AND WE HAD THAT RAIL, THEN A RAILROAD, THEN RAIL AND ROAD, THEN ROAD. TXDOT TOOK ALL THAT OVER. YOU HAD A BOARD THAT WAS PART OF ROAD DISTRICT. WHEN TXDOT GOT ALL THAT, THE ROAD DISTRICT I GUESS DESIGNATION REMAINED BUT THE BOARD DISSOLVED ITSELF. SO THERE WAS, I THINK IT'S MARTIN MID STREAM. THEY USED TO PAY US TO LEASE THAT PROPERTY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ARRANGEMENT IS. ALL THOSE FUNDS
WOULD GO INTO ROAD DISTRICT IV. >> THEY STILL DO. THEY STILL PAY THAT. THAT'S WHERE IT COMES FROM.
>> I THOUGHT WE SOLD THAT PROPERTY.
>> WE DID BUT WE KEPT THE LEASE. WE KEPT THE REVENUE FROM THE LEASE BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT $100,000 A YEAR. SO THAT WAS PART OF THE DEAL WHEN WE SOLD THE PROPERTIES WE GOT TO KEEP THE LEASE. IT KEEPS PUTTING MONEY IN FROM THAT PROPERTY.
>> SWEET DEAL. >> AND THE ONLY -- CAN I SAY
SOMETHING? >> LET ME FINISH HERE.
>> LET HIM FINISH. >> I WANT TO OFFER THIS UP. THIS MAY SEEM LIKE HERESY. HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT TALKING TO THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI ABOUT SHARING THE EXPENSE?
>> THE EXPENSE -- WELL IT'S OUR ROAD.
>> PARKING LOT. IT'S OURS. >> WELL NO, HE'S SAYING BECAUSE THE FIRE -- PART OF THE REQUIREMENT IS FIRE AND SAFETY AND ADA. WELL THE ADA IS FEDERAL. THEN THE FIRE AND SAFETY PART ABOUT THE AMBULANCE. YEAH, GOOD LUCK.
>> YEAH, WHEN THEY ANNEXED OUT THERE IN 2002 THEY ANNEXED OUT ON THE ISLAND. IF YOU READ THE DOCUMENTS THEY SPECIFICALLY LIST
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PADRE PARK AS BEING EXCLUDED FROM THAT AS FAR AS ANY ROAD SUPPORT. THAT'S WHY AFTER HURRICANE HARVEY WE WERE TRYING TO FIX NEWPORT ROAD AND IT IT WAS GLEN SULLIVAN THAT SAID WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THIS, IT BELONGS TO THE CITY. THERE ARE CERTAIN ROADS. ALL THOSE PARK ROADS ARE CONSIDERED PARK ROADS. THEY'RE EXCLUDED IN ANNEXATION DOCUMENT.>> OKAY. WELL I JUST THINK AT SOME POINT WE MIGHT OUGHT TO ENTERTAIN THOSE IDEAS. ANYWAY, THANK YOU.
>> COMMISSIONER MAREZ IS NEXT. >> I'M HAPPY TO RUN INTERFERENCE. DOESN'T HURT TO ASK. THANK YOU.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR FINANCE TEAM. DO WE KNOW WHAT THE BUDGET IS? I WAS TRYING TO LOOK. NOT THE BUDGET, THE BALANCE.
>> IT'S $1.4 MILLION. >> AND WE USE IT, GOSH, IT'S BEEN YEARS SINCE WE USED IT. I'VE BEEN ON THE COURT BUT IT WAS EARLY ON. IT'S BEEN AT LEAST SIX YEARS MAYBE. MAYBE IT FELT LIKE SIX YEARS. MY QUESTION ON THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THIS SOURCE. IT'S GREAT TO SUPPLEMENT PROJECTS ON THE ISLAND. 100% RECORD OF VOTING FOR THINGS ON THE ISLAND.
DO WE CONTINUE THIS PRACTICE OF KEEPING IT LIKE A COOKIE JAR AND USING ONLY WHEN WE NEED? DO WE INCORPORATE IT INTO OUR BUDGET AND HELP OFFSET COSTS KNOWING THERE'S EXPENSES THAT ARE IN PRECINCT IV AND THAT THIS CAN ONLY APPLY TO EXPENSES THAT LIE WITHIN THE ROAD DISTRICT. CAN WE OFFSET THAT IN OUR BUDGET SOMEHOW? I'M NOT SAYING I WANT TO DO THAT NOW. I BROUGHT THAT UP BEFORE AND I WANT TO BE CONSISTENT BECAUSE IF IT WE HAVE A DEFICIT OR WE HAVE A LEAN YEAR WHICH WE THINK WE'LL HAVE AGAIN IN OUR BUDGET, THEN A WAY TO KIND OF OFFSET SOME OF THAT IS WITH THIS BALANCE. IT DOESN'T COME UP BUT EVERY FEW YEARS AT LEAST. SO JUST FOR DISCUSSION JUST TO THROW IT OUT THERE. I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP. BECAUSE THERE ARE --
>> IS FIRE STILL TO BE ONLY OR SINCE THAT GOT DISSOLVED AND SOLD IS IT LIMITS TO WHAT YOU CAN SPEND THIS ON?
>> YEAH. WE'VE HAD -- I DON'T KNOW. YOU CAN GET TO LOOK AT IT.
>> ROAD AND ROAD-RELATED ITEMS. LIGHTING FOR ROADS. WE USED IT TO RECOVER SOME OF THE ROADS AFTER HURRICANE HARVEY AND THAT'S THE LAST WE'VE TOUCHED IT.
>> ONLY STILL PRECINCT IV. >> YES, MA'AM.
>> ROAD DISTRICT IV WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH, IT'S NOT ALL OF PRECINCT IV. IT'S NOT EVEN ALL OF.
>> IT'S NOT ALL IN THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. IT'S
UNINCORPORATED? >> SOME OF OUR COUNTY PARKS, SOME OF THE AREAS WELL, NO, IT'S ALL WITHIN THE CITY
LIMITS. >> CITY LIMITS OF CORPUS OR PORT
ARANSAS. >> IT'S IN BOTH CITIES.
>> INCORPORATES. >> I'M INCORPORATED.
>> THERE'S NO MIDDLE GROUND. NO MANS LAND UNINCORPORATED. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. YOU MIGHT AS WELL STAY, SCOTT. DON'T LEAVE.
>> I JUST WANT TO MOVE THIS UP. COMMISSIONER PUSLEY ASKED A GOOD QUESTION. I REMEMBER BACK THEN SCOTT AND COMMISSIONER I THINK THAT DISTRICT ROAD IV DOESN'T SAY PRECINCT IV. WHAT'S ATTACHED. IF IT'S A ROAD OR LINING AND IT'S ATTACHED, I MEAN WHAT, WE SHOULDN'T BE WAITING FOR GLO TO GIVE US THE GREEN LIGHT IF IT'S OKAY. THERE'S A REASON THEY'RE
WAITING FOR THE GREEN LIGHT. >> HOLD ON.
>> YES, SIR. I'M SORRY. >> NOT PART OF THE ROAD. WE'RE DOING A PARKING LOT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE STATUE. I'M JUST I REALLY DON'T CARE. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR OTHER THINGS. DISTRICT SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE IT TOO. APPROVAL. I JUST, YOU KNOW, IT IS COOKIE JAR WITH PRECINCT IV WHEN WE NEED THE MONEY. I THINK FOR ME, YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO USE IT OUTSIDE THOSE MEANS. MAYBE I NEED SOMETHING ELSE. MAYBE COMMISSIONER PUSLEY. MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE NEEDS IT. REMINDED
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ME OF SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH FOR A LONG TIME. WE COULDN'T USE IT FOR CERTAIN REASONS. FOR CERTAINTHINGS. >> COMMISSIONER, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS IN ROAD DISTRICT IV AND THIS IS PERMISSIBLE USE IN ROAD DISTRICT IV BECAUSE IT'S A ROADWAY CONNECTING TO A PARKING LOT WHICH IS CONSIDERED A PUBLIC ROADWAY. SO IT IS A QUALIFIED AND VERIFIED EXPENSE OR EXPENSE OF VERIFIED USE OF THIS AND IT IS IN ROAD DISTRICT IV. AND IT IS A ROAD THAT CONNECTS TO A PARKING LOT WHICH IS A PUBLIC PARKING LOT WHICH IS CONSIDERED PART OF A ROADWAY. THE ONLY REASON, BELIEVE ME, WE COULD BE HERE ALL DAY TALKING ABOUT THE REASONS WHY WE'RE HAVING TO WORK WITH THE GLO ON THIS. WE DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE TO WAIT ON IT, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM AS NICELY AS WE CAN TO GET THIS DONE. BECAUSE THEY CONTROL THE BEACHES AND THEY CONTROL, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE TO PLAY AS NICE
AS WE CAN. >> WE'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A NO DUNE PROTECTION PERMIT. WE'RE NOT IMPACTING ANY DUNES THROUGH THAT PROCESS. THEIR HANG UP IS THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE.
THERE ARE SIGHTINGS OF STUFF DONE IN THE LATE 90S. THEY FORGET THAT WE RECOVERED THAT PARKING LOT AND THE ONE AT HORSE COBBLE AFTER HURRICANE HURRICANE IKE. SO THE OTHER ISSUE HAS BEEN OUR DEBRIS CONTRACTOR. WE HAVE CROWDER GOLF AND RECOVERY PEOPLE AND OUR MONITOR. GLO HAS THE SAME PEOPLE. SO THERE'S NO ISSUE THERE. ANYHOW, SO I'M WORKING WITH THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE BE TASKED TO WORK WITH TO TRY TO GET THROUGH THIS WITHOUT INVOLVING ANY ELECTED OFFICIALS. IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME THE PROCESS TO DO THAT, THEN, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO GET WHAT I CAN GET
>> WHAT'S THE AMOUNT WE ASKING FOR?
>> LARRY: 1,063,000? >> ALL THE MONEY IS THERE?
>> THIS WILL TAKE UP $1,063,917.90. THAT INCLUDES THE
ENTIRE ROAD AND THE PARKING LOT. >> WE'LL HAVE ADA. WITHOUT IT WE CANNOT MEET FEDERAL, STATE AND CITY ADA CODE REQUIREMENTS.
WE'D BE IN VIOLATION. >> MY QUESTION AGAIN WHEN ASKED, IN THE PARKS DO THEY HAVE ANY MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF THIS
>> INLAND PARKS. COASTAL PARKS. >> NO. I'VE GOT GRANTS FOR EVERYTHING ELSE I'M DOING. I DON'T HAVE ANY SPARE CAPITAL OUTLIE TO DO THIS. THAT WAS WIPED OUT.
>> NO MONEY IN RESERVE? >> NOPE.
>> WE WENT BARE BONES THE LAST TWO YEARS. JUST LIKE EVERYBODY
>> I AGREE. YES. NEEDS TO BE ASKED. THIS IS CONTINGENT UPON APPROVAL BY THE GLO. I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. I DON'T WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STILL
WAITING ON AN ANSWER. >> JUDGE, I NEED TO CLARIFY. SO THIS IS NOT PART OF THE PIER PROJECT ITSELF. THIS IS.
>> CORRECTS. >> WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE
>> GET PEOPLE TO AND FROM. >> AND THE ROAD.
>> AND IT'S BEEN PART OF THE PROJECT FROM A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE FROM THE BEGINNING. THIS ROAD DISTRICT IV HAS APPROVED I THINK IT WAS $250,000 ORIGINALLY FOR THE DESIGN.
>> YES, SIR. >> WE'VE MADE EXPENDITURES FROM THIS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO FOR THE DESIGN OF THIS. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF IT. JUST FROM A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE.
>> IT CONNECTS TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE PARK. IT HAS CONNECTIVITY TO OUR ADA-ACCESSIBLE RESTROOM ON THE BEACH AND CONNECTIVITY TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE PARK. IT'S JUST NECESSARY. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A DELIVERY TRUCK OUT THERE IF YOU TRY TO DRIVE OVER THE LOOSE SAND. IT'LL GET
STUCK. IT'S MUCH NEEDED. >> AND HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WOULD HAVE DONE HAD WE NOT HAD THIS FUND TO BE HONEST.
>> I GET IT. I MEAN IT'S DEFINITELY WHAT'S NEEDED.
>> STORMS ARE NO GOOD. >> WE SHOULD HAVE I MEAN --
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>> WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK. >> MY ISSUE IS BUDGETED KNOWING WE HAD THIS EXTRA FUNDING. WOULD HAVE CUT YOU BACK. YOU'D HAVE
TO CUT BACK ON THE SCOPE. >> I KNOW IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
BUT WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS ROAD IN THIS COURT AND THIS COURT AS ROAD DISTRICT IV VOTED ON THE $250,000 FOR THE DESIGN KNOWING. IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE WE'VE DONE IT. NO REASON FOR EVERYBODY TO REMEMBER IT. WE DID THIS BEFORE. WE PAY FOR THE DESIGN OUT OF IT WITH THE INTENTION OF THEN PAYING FOR THE ROAD OUT OF IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY FUNDS TO PAY FOR IT. IT'S TAKING THE MONEY OUT OF ROAD DISTRICT HER TO USE FOR ROAD PROJECTS WHICH IT'S INTENDED TO DO. IT'S JUST BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE WE'VE DISCUSSED IT. NO REASON TO REMEMBER IT. WE ALREADY HAVE APPROVED THE DESIGN THINKING WE WERE GOING TO COME BACK AND IMPROVE THE ROAD OUT IT HAVE. THE REASON WE HAVEN'T IS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE GLO AND IT'S DELAYED US OR I WOULD HAVE DONE THIS A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
>> YOU CAN'T DO THE PARKING LOT UNTIL YOU GET DONE WITH THE PIER. ALL THOSE CRANES WOULD JUST TEAR IT UP.
>> RIGHT. RIGHT. >> THIS COMES AT THE END.
>> JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK
UP FIRST. >> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION ALLOCATING THE FUND NECESSARY TO FILL THE ROAD WASHED OUT. SAFETY REQUIREMENTS FROM THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI FOR FIRE AND AMBULANCE SERVICES AND THIS IS CONTINGENT ON THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE FINAL APPROVAL. THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.
>> I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED?
>> I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN ON THAT.
>> FOUR AYES. ONE AN STAIN. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. IT IS 9:39 AND I WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING OF ROAD DISTRICT IV AND RECONVENE OUR REGULAR MEETING. IS THERE ANY COMMISSIONER THAT
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HAS SOMETHING THEY WISH TO PULL OUT OF THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES, COMMISSIONER PUSLEY.>> ANY OTHERS? I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO PATS THE CONSENT AGENDA EXCLUDING ITEM H FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. I MADE IT.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY
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AYE. >> AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. COMMISSIONER PUSLEY. ITEM H. APPROVE THE BOARD APPLICATION PROCEDURE FOR THE TIRZ NUMBER 6 BARISI VILLAGE.
>> I RAN THE RESIGNATION LETTER AND FOR ME IT RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING ON WITH THIS TAX REINVESTMENT ZONE.
MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE AN UPDATE ON EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE. WHETHER OR NOT WE THINK THIS IS A REAL PROJECT ANY MORE.
BEFORE WE GO MUCH FURTHER WITH IT. CITY IS INVOLVED IN THIS AS
WELL. >> I THINK WE COULD PUT THE APPLICATION, OPEN THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND KEEP IT OPEN UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING. THEN WE COULD GET THAT UPDATE
AND DECIDE AT THAT POINT. >> YEAH.
>> THAT'D BE ALL RIGHT? >> I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME CONCERNS OVER WHAT'S GOING ON.
>> NEXT MEETING IS THE 11TH. OPENING FROM MAY 21ST TO JUNE 18TH. DO WE WANT TO DO IT TO THE SECOND MEETING WITH.
>> WE'LL HAVE A MEETING BEFOREHAND. WE CAN GET OUR
UPDATE. >> HOW DO WE GET AN UPDATE? WE WANT TO PUT THAT ON FOR JUNE 11TH.
>> I GUESS THE DEVELOPER. I DON'T KNOW.
>> THAT'S A GOOD THOUGHT. >> MAYBE WE CAN ASK.
>> HEATHER FOR AN UPDATE. >> YES .
>> THESE TWO LADIES ARE MAKING NOTES. SOMEONE WILL REACH OUT AND LET HER KNOW WE WOULD LIKE HER TO BE HERE ON THE 11TH.
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>> THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAD. >> SO YOU WANT TO MAKE THE
MOTION? >> MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE
ITEM H AS SUBMITTED. >> SECOND.
>> ITEM 3A1 WE JUST DID IN THE OTHER MEETING. I THINK WE
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THOUGHT WE HAD TO COME OUT OF THAT MEETING TO VOTE. I'M GOING TO PULL UP ITEM FOUR BECAUSE WE HAVE THE GENTLEMAN HERE WITH US.WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE AN UPDATE FROM.
>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS FOR LETTING ME PRESENT TODAY. I'M EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE SOUTH TEXAS MILITARY TASK FOREST. NEXT SLIDE. OUR MISSION IS TO PRESERVE, PROTECT, PROMOTE AND EXPAND THE VALUE OF OUR AREA MILITARY INSTALLATIONS IN OUR AREA. THIS INCLUDES THE NEXT SLIDE. COAST GUARD OPERATIONS. NAVAL AIR STATIONS CORPUS CHRISTI AND KINGSVILLE. YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN THE NOTICE THAT CORPUS CHRISTI WAS DESIGNATED A COAST GUARD CITY. WE ARE THE FIRST CITY TO BE DESIGNATED IN TEXAS AS A COAST GUARD CITY.
VERY APPROPRIATE FOR US SINCE WE HAVE ACTIVE COAST GUARD OPERATIONS. I THINK THERE'LL BE SOME CELEBRATION IN THE FUTURE FOR THAT. I'LL SHOW YOU THE NEXT SLIDE. LOOK AT THE HELICOPTERS AND REPLACE THEM WITH NEW VERSIONS. THIS IS THE FLRAA THE NEW ADVANCED AIRCRAFT THE ARMY IS CONSIDERING. THERE HAVE BEEN LOTS OF THINGS IN THE NEWS. WE'RE CONCERNED HOW DOES THAT AFFECT ARMY DEPOT. THEY OVERALL HELICOPTERS. THEY DO WORK FOR FOREIGN NATIONS AS WELL. THE DEPOT IS ENDING SOME OF ITS WORK ON THE VICTOR MODEL UPGRADE. THOSE AIRCRAFT FINISH UP NEXT YEAR. THERE'S LOTS OF DOWNTURNS AND WORKLOAD. ALSO WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE COMPETITION FOR THIS WORK.
HELICOPTER REPAIRS BECOME LESS ANDLESS. THERE'S MORE COMPETITION FOR THAT LIMITED LEVEL WORK. HERE'S A CONTRACT FOR $71 MILLION FOR LOOK AT THAT, DEPOT-LEVEL SUPPORT WORK TO BE DONE IN ORLANDO BY LOOKHEED MARTIN. WE DO HAVE CONCERNS THIS IS WORKLOAD THE DEPOT COULD HAVE BEEN DOING. WE KEEP AN EYE ON THAT THROUGH OUR CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVES.
WE POINT OUT THIS INFORMATION. AS A MATTER OF FACT OUR GROUP, I'M JOINED BY KYLE HOGAN. CORPUS CHRISTI DEPOT COMMANDER RETIRED COLONEL. GARY BRADFORD. ESTEEMED MEMBER OF OUR TASK FOREST. THAN I DO ABOUT HELICOPTERS.
>> AT LEAST WE KNOW WHY SCOTT CROSS REALLY SHOWED UP TODAY.
>> WE HAVE THE WHOLE PROCESS FAMILY HERE TODAY.
>> NEXT SLIDE. >> CIVILIAN EMPLOYMENT AT THE DEPOT. WE'RE ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT BASE CLOSURES. THINGS LIKE THAT. IF YOU LOOK BACK IN 2011 THE DEPOT HAD APPROXIMATELY 6000 EMPLOYEES. THIS IS WHEN WE WERE AT WARTIME. DEPOT WAS OPERATING ON MULTISHIFTS. SINCE 2017 YOU SEE THAT DOWNWARD TREND.
BASICALLY A DEPOT RUNS AS A BUSINESS. IT CAN ONLY OPERATE AND HIRE ENOUGH EMPLOYEES FOR THE WORK IT HAS. IF THEY HAVE LOTS OF EMPLOYEES AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE WORK, THEIR RATES GO UP AND THE DEPOT COMPETES FOR WORKLOAD WITH. THE REAL CONCERN I SEE FOR 2026 AND 2027 IS, YOU KNOW, 2700 EMPLOYEES RIGHT NOW. POTENTIALLY LOSING 1000 WORKERS OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS. YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE DEPOT AT THAT LEVEL
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SINCE BACK IN THE 60S. OUR TASK FORCE IS CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.WE RAN THESE NUMBERS BY DEPOT LEADERSHIP AND SURPRISINGLY THE WORD I GOT WAS YEP, THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT. THEY ARE RESTRICTED ON WHAT THEY CAN PUBLICLY SAY ABOUT THEIR WORKLOAD. WE HAVE PRESENTED THIS TO OUR REPRESENTATIVES IN WASHINGTON.
WE'RE DEVELOPING A WAR PLAN ON HOW TO ATTACK THIS. JUDGE SCOTT WAS PART OF OUR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
SHE SAID YOU NEED TO PRESENT THIS TO OUR COMMISSIONERS COURT.
THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY. I EXPECT THIS TO GAIN A LOT OF ATTENTION. I'M OPEN TO YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, BUT OUR TASK FORCE CONSIDERS IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. THE DEPOT IS CRITICAL TO OUR AREA ECONOMY AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR CONTINUED FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO THE TASK FORCE. WE COULDN'T OPERATE WITHOUT YOU. THANK YOU.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. >> I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
>> COMMISSIONER MAREZ FIRST. >> THIS IS SIGNIFICANT IN THE JOB LOSS. DEPOT HAS ALWAYS BEEN, FOR AT LEAST THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES HAS BEEN A CATALYST IN SUPPORTING MIDDLE CLASS GROWTH IN OUR COMMUNITY. MY GRANDFATHER, MY MOM'S DAD WORKED AT CCAD AS DID A COUPLE OF HER BROTHERS. IT'S GENERATIONAL. THEY HAD MIDDLE CLASS LIVINGS THEY WERE ABLE TO HELP AND SUPPORT FAMILIES. I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS WHO WORK AT CCAD. YOU HEAR ALL KINDS OF RUMOR MILL GOING ON. THEY'RE JUST KIND OF TALKING WHAT THEY'RE HEARING. NOT SURE HOW ACCURATE IT IS. BUT YOU'RE CONFIRMING HERE THAT THERE'S A POTENTIAL TO LOSE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF JOBS. OBVIOUSLY OUR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, OUR SENATORS, WELL ENGAGED WITH OUR COMMUNITY. WE KNOW THAT EVERY YEAR THAT WE CONTRIBUTE TO THE SOUTH TEXAS MILITARY TASK FOREST WITH FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY AND THE CITY AND OTHER ENTITIES DO THAT AS WELL. SO I DON'T WANT TO REALLY ASK. I'M NOT HERE TO POINT FINGERS BECAUSE I WOULD NEVER DO THAT. I APPRECIATE THE WORK Y'ALL DO. BUT HOW DID WE GET HERE? WAS THIS LIKE A SLOW BOIL? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT SNUCK UP ON US AND WE JUST DIDN'T CATCH? WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DATA FROM JUST THE LAST UP TO 2017. SO THE PROJECTION FOR OVER 16 YEARS. THAT'S A PRETTY DRAMATIC DECREASE GOING FROM 5900 TO BASICALLY 1700. I MEAN WHAT, OBVIOUSLY SOMEBODY KNEW ABOUT THIS. OBVIOUSLY Y'ALL HAD BEEN ADVOCATING. OBVIOUSLY THINGS HAD BEEN BROUGHT UP. I LOOK AT THE STATES THAT YOU OFFER THAT CLIP ON AND THEY'RE HELPFUL. AND I MEAN, I'M SURE I HAVE CONSTITUENTS FROM THESE GREAT STATES ORIGINALLY OR HAVE FAMILY THERE. NOT GOING TO BASH THOSE GREAT STATES. BUT WE'RE TEXAS. I DON'T KNOW HOW COMMUNITIES CAN GET SO MUCH.
ORLANDO, THAT'S A BOOMING METROPOLIS NOW. IN COMPETING WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES WHAT IS IT THAT WE ARE LACKING? WE'RE JUST GETTING OUTPOLITICKED AT THE CONGRESSIONAL AND SENATORIAL LEVELS? IS THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING? ARE THESE COMMUNITIES WINNING THESE AWARDS, DO THEY HAVE TENURED MEMBERS ON THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEES OR OTHER APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEES? IS THAT WHAT'S REALLY HURTING US IN THE END? SEEMED LIKE THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING FOR A WHILE. I REMEMBER CONGRESSMAN ORTIZ EVEN HE WAS ONLY ABLE TO DO SO MUCH AND WE TOOK SOME HITS. ONCE AGAIN, I'M NOT HERE TO POINT FINGERS. WHAT CAN WE DO? WHAT ARE OUR NEXT STEPS? WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM IN PLACE. ARE WE GETTING OUTPOLITICKED? IS THAT PART OF IT THAT THERE'S MEMBERS
ADVOCATING FOR THE COMMUNITY? >> YOU SEE SOME HEADS NODDING HERE. THAT IS PART OF IT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, COLONEL HOGAN AND MR. BRADFORD AND WES HOSKINS AND I WENT TO ALABAMA FOR THE ASSOCIATION OF THE U.S. ARMY MEETING. WHAT WE SAW WAS INCREDIBLE COMMUNITY SUPPORT IN THE HUNTSVILLE AREA FOR THEIR HELICOPTER REPAIR OPERATIONS. SIGNIFICANT CONGRESSIONAL SUPPORT FROM THE CONNECTICUT SECTOR WHICH IS AIRCRAFT AND IN
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WAYS WE'RE BEING OUTGUNNED. IT'S JUST, THAT'S THE REALITY OF IT. THE OTHER PART OF IT IS THE ARMY NEEDS LESS HELICOPTERS.YOU KNOW, WHAT THE DEPOT, THEY CAN ONLY OPERATE ON WHAT THE ARMY PROVIDES THEM. OR THEY COMPETE FOR. WE SEE THIS FAST RUSH FOR THE NEW TYPE OF HELICOPTER AND THE ARMY DEPOT IN CORPUS CHRISTI WILL COMPETE FOR THATWORK LODE IN THE FUTURE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE THINK CAN DO IS LOOK AT OTHER SECTORS WITHIN DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE THAT HAVE ROTARY WING AIRCRAFT AND SHOW THEY'RE A GOOD DEAL FOR THE TAXPAYERS AND A GOOD DEAL FOR THAT SERVICE TO DO THE REPAIRS IN CORPUS CHRISTI. WE WILL WORK WITH CCAD AND HELP THEM, ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE LIMITED MARKETING CAPABILITY. TO SHOW HERE'S THE CAPABILITIES IN OUR AREA RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE THE EQUIPMENT. WE HAVE THE EMPLOYEES TRAINED UP TO DO THE JOB. WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THEM.
THAT'S OUR PRIME IMPACT. >> IN CLOSING ACCIDENT I GOT TO GO TO THE BLUE ANGELS WITH MY FAMILY. WE HADN'T BEEN ON BASE SEVERAL YEARS. IT WAS NICE TO COME BACK. WHEN I WOULD GO TO THE BASE AND WATCH THE DISPLAYS THERE ALONG THE RUNWAY. THE BASE HAS CHANGED. IT LOOKS A LITTLE OLDER. THERE'S WEAR AND TEAR THERE. HAVING BEEN ON OTHER BASES BEFORE YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE. I THINK IT WAS HELPFUL THE PUBLIC OR THOSE PAYING ATTENTION GOT TO SEE HOW SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE LOOKS. WE AT ONE POINT TIME ATTEMPTED TO WORK ON THAT INFRASTRUCTURE GROUP WE WERE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH.
>> THE GRANT WAS FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS.
>> NOW I THINK THE CITY DOES. THAT'S GREAT. I LOVE THAT. I THINK THAT PARTNERSHIP IS WHAT WE NEED TO SHOW THAT. Y'ALL HAVE SAID THAT BEFORE. WHATEVER WE CAN DO. YOU'RE GEARING UP.
YOU'RE DOING ALL WE CAN. IF IT'S STARTING REALLY TO STIR THE COMMUNITY UP. THEY'RE AWARE. IF I WASN'T ON A TEXT MESSAGE CHAT WITH THEM TALKING ABOUT FANTASY FOOTBALL DURING FOOTBALL SEASON I WOULDN'T KNOW EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BASE AND THEIR CONCERNS, THEIR WORRIES. IF WE NEED TO RING THE BELL NOW AND GET US MOBILIZED, TELL US WHAT TO DO. IF THIS IS THAT FIRST STEP TO DO IT, LET'S GET IT GOING. WE CANNOT AFFORD TO GET TO THAT LEVEL, THAT DROP IN LEVEL OF EMPLOYEES AND LIKE I SAID, I JUST THINK OF THE LIVELIHOOD IT GAVE TO MY GRANDPARENTS AND MY FAMILY AND MY IN-LAWS AS WELL. IT GAVE ME OPPORTUNITIES TO EXCEL IN LIFE.
IF WE LOSE A SIGNIFICANT PORTION THEN THAT, I KNOW OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BOUNCE BACK LIKE SAN ANTONIO AND OTHERS. BUT ONCE THEY'RE GONE, IT'S A HARD HIT TO EVER REALLY
>> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS US.
>> I AGREE. FIRST THING IS TO RAISE COMMUNITY AWARENESS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO RIGHT NOW.
>> THANK YOU. >> THERE ARE PLANS TO TRAVEL TO DC. I AM MAKING MYSELF AVAILABLE TO ATTEND AS WELL. COMMISSIONER
PUSLEY. >> THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.
>> WE PRESENTED SIMILAR NUMBERS AT OUR TASK FOREST QUARTERLY MEETING WE HAD A WEEK AGO. THERE WERE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CITY THERE. THEY ARE AWARE OF THESE NUMBERS. THERE'S CONCERN
AT THE CITY LEVEL, DEFINITELY. >> OBVIOUSLY THEY DON'T WORK ON THE -- THERE'S NO PLANS FOR THEM TO WORK HERE. I WOULD
ASSUME THAT'S TRUE? >> NOT AT THIS POINT. IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF AIRCRAFT THAN THE OSPREY. IT'S BEEN -- ONCE IT COMES OFF THE FACTORY FLOOR IT SPENDS A PERIOD OF TIME BEING REPAIRED BY THE ORIGINAL MANUFACTURER. AT THE SAME TIME YOU'RE SETTING UP SECONDARY REPAIR OPERATIONS. THAT'LL TAKE
YEARS. >> YEAH. I JUST THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT THEY'RE SHIFTING TO THIS AIRCRAFT WITH ITS SKETCHY SAFETY RECORD IN THE PAST. IT JUST IS VERY INTERESTING TO ME. ANYWAY, WELL, I GUESS ALONG WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER MAREZ'S COMMENTS, I MEAN, WE NEED TO PUT A PLAN OF ACTION TOGETHER, OBVIOUSLY. IT ENTAILS THE CITY, THE COUNTY AND
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EVERYBODY IN BETWEEN. OUR LEGISLATORS THAT REPRESENT US AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE. THIS USED TO BE ONE OF THE LARGEST EMPLOYERS IN THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI.THOSE NUMBERS ARE FRIGHTENING. >> AGREE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? NO. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO AND ALL OF YOU THAT DO THIS AND TRAVEL, I THINK YOU DO THIS ON YOUR OWN BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE HERE AND WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT . HAPPY TO HELP AND HAPPY TO DO WHATEVER I NEED TO DO WITH THOSE TRIPS ANY TIME.
>> THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. >> JUDGE. 3 A 1 NEEDS TO BE
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TABLED. IT WAS A CARRY OVER FROM THE LAST MEETING.>> I SKIPPED IT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> THAT'S AN INDEFINITE TABLE. >> YEAH. IT'S OFF.
>> 3A 1. IT'S A REPEAT. CARRY OVER. SO THERE WAS A MOTION AND
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UNANIMOUS TO TABLE. >> SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ON
THERE. >> ITEM TWO. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE AUTHORIZATION OF PREMIUMS FOR ONE YEAR POLICY TERM FOR PROPERTY AND LIABILITY INSURANCE RENEWALS PER THE BROKER RECORD AND ANY RELATED MATTERS. MR. CARLISLE IS HERE.
MR. EVEREST HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT ON THIS. YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR SEAT A PRINTOUT THAT HE PASSED OUT I BELIEVE
THIS MORNING. >> THAT'S CORRECT, JUDGE. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. BEGAN WORKING ON THESE RENEWALS THE FIRST OF FEBRUARY. THERE HAS BEEN SOME TIME PUT INTO IT. BEFORE YOU WE GOT OUR REGULAR PROPERTY COVERAGE. WE WANTED TO PRESENT TO THE COURT OPTIONS LIKE LAST YEAR. WE WENT OUT, WE HAD DIFFERENT OPTIONS. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR, WE'VE HAD ABOUT A 4% INCREASE IN OUR TOTAL IN VALUE. JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT. WE HAVE ABOUT $408 MILLION WORTH OF INSURED VALUE. IF YOU LOOK ON ITEM 1 ON THE LEFT-HAND COLUMN WITH THE PROPERTY AND WIND STORM INSURANCE, THERE'S THREE OPTIONS THERE. THE FIRST OPTION IS ALL RISK EXCLUDING FLOOD, EXCLUDING EARTH MOVEMENT.
OPTION ONE. THAT LIMIT IS $75 MILLION. THAT'S WHAT WE INSURED
>>> THAT'S A DECREASE OF ABOUT 9% OVERALL WITH THE $329,000 REDUCTION FROM LAST YEAR'S PREMIUMS. OUR SECOND OPTION IS OPTION TWO, ALL RISK INCLUDING FLOOD, INCLUDING EARTH MOVEMENT WITH A $2.5 MILLION FLOOD LIMIT. THAT'S OPTION TWO. AS YOU'LL SEE FOR THE RENEWAL OPTION ISSUED, THAT'S AROUND $2.2 MILLION. AND THEN OPTION THREE, THE PROPERTY AND WIND STORM INSURANCE EXCLUDING FLOOD, EXCLUDING EARTH MOVEMENTS.
THAT'S FOR $100 MILLION. AND THAT'S FOR $2.4 MILLION. WE ARE RECOMMENDING OPTION ONE FOR APPROVAL ON THAT.
>> WAIT, OKAY. I'VE GOT -- IS THAT ON THE BIG SHEET? I READ ALL THIS, BUT I'VE GOT THE FIRST THING THAT SAYS NOT AN
INVOICE. >> IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE THIS,
COMMISSIONERS. >> THAT'S CORRECT, RIGHT.
>> SO OPTION ONE IS ALL RISK EXCLUDING FLOOD, EXCLUDING EARTH
MOVEMENT? >> THAT'S WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR, RIGHT? OPTION ONE IS WHAT WE HAD, BUT IT WENT DOWN A LITTLE BIT IN COST. GO TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE, MR. CARLISLE. I'M SURE YOU'LL BE UP THERE. IF YOU LOOK IN THE
GREEN. >> YES, THERE'S ACTUALLY SEPARATE ONES THAT AREN'T SHOWN IN HERE, WHICH IS THE SAME ONES WE DID LAST YEAR, WHICH PREDOMINANTLY ON THE ISLAND.
WHEN WE SAY IT IS EXCLUDING IT, IT IS BOUGHT BACK FOR THOSE
PROPERTIES. >> CAN WE GET CONNIE TO BRING UP
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THE DOCUMENT ON THE SCREEN, PLEASE?>> I DON'T KNOW IF SHE HAS THAT. CAN YOU PULL THAT UP?
>> YEAH, WE REALLY OUGHT TO HAVE STUFF LIKE THIS AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE TO PULL UP ANY TIME, I AGREE. IT IS A GREAT POINT.
>> I DON'T HAVE IT. >> IT'S ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA.
>> IS IT THE SAME DOCUMENT? >> WHILE SHE'S GETTING THAT.
YOU'RE SAYING THOSE BUYBACKS THAT WE DO, IS THAT COMING IN AT THE SAME COST AS LAST YEAR'S BUDGETED BUYBACKS?
>> I THINK THE FLOOD IS THE SAME. IT MIGHT HAVE GONE UP SOME. MOST FLOODS IS GOING UP. THAT'S THROUGH THE NATIONAL FLOOD PROGRAM. IT'S NOMINAL. DO YOU REMEMBER IF THOSE COME UP IN
THIS PARTICULAR TIME? >> I'VE GOT THEM RIGHT HERE.
>> OKAY. >> OUR FLOOD ACTUALLY WEPT DOWN HALF A PERCENT. IT'S THE DIFFERENCES, MAYBE $94 FROM WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR IS A TOTAL OF $94.
>> OKAY, LET'S LET HER GET THAT ON BECAUSE THEY'RE RIGHT.
PEOPLE NEED TO SEE THAT. >> I DON'T SEE IT ON THE
ATTACHMENT. IS IT NOT ATTACHED? >> THIS IS NOT ATTACHED.
>> IS THE GREEN HIGHLIGHTED? >> YES, ATTACHED AS
CONFIDENTIAL. >> THAT'S WHY SHE CAN'T, YES.
>> WHY DOES THAT GET ATTACHED AS CONFIDENTIAL?
>> I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND ALL THAT. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
I'M JUST CURIOUS. IT WOULDN'T BE CONFIDENTIAL, I WOULD THINK.
>> HEY, HE'S GOING TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, IT LOOKS LIKE,
YES. >> THE ATTACHMENT WAS ATTACHED AS CONFIDENTIAL, SO CONNIE CAN'T PULL IT UP RIGHT NOW.
>> BUT WHY WAS IT ATTACHED? >> I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE RATES WEREN'T PUBLIC INFORMATION. I COULD HAVE BEEN
MISINFORMED. >> I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WHEN MICHAEL DOES A BID ON SOMETHING THAT THOSE ARE CONFIDENTIAL, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
IS THIS THE SAME KIND OF SITUATION?
>> BECAUSE WE HAVE BIDS AND PRICES, WHAT WE CAN AND CAN
IMPROVE AND NOT. >> THAT'S JUST HOW I UNDERSTOOD IT. IF I'M MISTAKEN, I APOLOGIZE.
>> I THINK THAT'S HOW WE PUT IT ON IN THE PAST THOUGH IS WHY WE DID IT, SO WE MAY NEED TO CHANGE THAT.
>> FOR THE FUTURE JUDGE, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, MAKE IT PUBLIC. IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET IT ON, SO PEOPLE CAN SEE IT NOW?
>> NOT UNLESS I RUN TO MY OFFICE OR SOMEBODY HAS AN ELECTRONIC
VERSION OF IT. >> SHE'S GOING TO E-MAIL IT TO
CONNIE. ATTACH IT REAL QUICK. >> SO WHILE THEY'RE DOING THAT, THE SAME COVERAGE SHOWS A REDUCTION OF $300,000 SOMETHING, WHICH IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY NEED IT. AND THEN THE FLOOD INSURANCE YOU THINK WENT DOWN BY HALF A PERCENT? THE BUYBACKS, SORRY, WENT DOWN BY HALF A PERCENTAGE POINT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THAT'S SOME DECENT FINANCIAL
MOVE ON INSURANCE FOR A CHANGE. >> THE INCREASE THOUGH IN WHAT WE HAD IN OUR MEETINGS BACK THERE IS WE HAVE NOT COVERED CYBERSECURITY, AND WE BELIEVE WE COULD BE DOING SOMETHING. WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS OTHER THAN COVERING EXACTLY WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR. THE ONLY ADDITION WE'RE ASKING FOR POTENTIALLY THIS YEAR IS THE CYBERSECURITY. THAT IS BECOMING A HUGE DEAL, AND WE HAD NO COVERAGE IN THE PAST ON THAT.
>> THAT'S CORRECT, JUDGE. WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE $2 MILLION COVERAGE FOR THE $2 MILLION. THAT WILL BE, ONE SECOND HERE,
>> YES, THAT'S CORRECT. ALL THE OTHER COVERAGES, SUCH AS PUBLIC OFFICIAL MANAGEMENT, PRIVATE PRACTICES, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. THERE WAS NO MOVEMENT OR NO PRICE INCREASE ON THAT, AS WELL AS THE VOLUNTEERS OF THOSE AND JUVENILES. THERE WAS NO PRICE INCREASE ON THAT. THE AUTOMOBILE LIABILITY, THERE WAS AN INCREASE ON THAT OF ABOUT 20%. I'VE BEEN GIVEN THE QUARTERLY UPDATES WITH REGARDS FOR LOSS AND ALL ACCIDENTS AND LOSSES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, SO THAT THE REASON FOR THAT. OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT LIABILITY WENT UP BY ABOUT 9%.
IT WENT UP 9% ACROSS THE WHOLE INDUSTRY.
>> IT STILL SHOWS IN THE BOTTOM, UNLESS I'M READING THIS WRONG,
A SAVINGS? >> THE FAR RIGHT SHOWS WHAT WE PURCHASED AND THE COST LAST YEAR. SO THEY BOTH WENT UP FROM
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$165 TO $181. >> BUT THE TOTALS IN THE BOTTOM,
STILL SHOWS A SAVINGS? >> YES. THAT IS STILL --
>> AND SAVINGS WITH ADDITIONAL COVERAGE?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> LET'S POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE
>> I MEAN, REALLY. I LOOK AT A LOT OF THIS STUFF.
>> AND THAT IS CORRECT. >> YOU HAVE IT ON THE SCREEN
>> IT WAS KIND OF SMALL AND HARD TO SEE.
>> SCROLL IT UP, PLEASE, SO YOU CAN SEE THE BOTTOM LINE, IF YOU
CAN HEAR ME. >> YES. THE TOTAL COVERAGE ON THE FAR RIGHT SHOWS LAST YEAR'S COVERAGE AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT WE PAID. THE GREEN HIGHLIGHTED IS WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING WE GO WITH THE OPTIONS AND THE COST, WHICH IS STILL A SAVINGS FROM
LAST YEAR. >> WE WILL EXPECT EVERY YEAR FOR YOU TO COME BACK WITH MORE COVERAGE AND MORE COSTS TO SET THE BAR. JUST MAKING SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT WE'RE
LOOKING FOR EVERY YEAR NOW. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE THING. THE THINGS THAT WENT UP, WHICH WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER.
DOWN AT THE BOTTOM IN REGARDS TO THE AUTOMOBILE LIABILITY, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND THOSE ITEMS. WE STILL HELP IN LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT ISSUES WITH IT, BUT IT'S THROUGH THE TEXAS
ASSOCIATION OF THE COUNTIES. >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I MEAN, YOU WOULD THINK THEY WOULD HAVE PRETTY GOOD BUYING POWER. I WONDER WHAT THAT IS ALL ABOUT. MAYBE THEY NEED TO HIRE YOU.
NEVERMIND. >> OR MAYBE WE NEED TO GO OUT FOR THAT AS WELL. ARE YOU SUGGESTING, MR. CARLISLE?
>> NO. I STILL THINK THAT THEY ARE THE COMPETITIVE PLACE TO BE,
BELIEVE ME. >> THANK YOU. I WANT TO SAY THAT IS IN MY TIME BEING HERE THAT WE SWITCH OVER TO CARLISLE. THEY'VE
GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND. >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> THEY DO MORE THAN WHAT THEY'RE ASKED FOR. THAT'S THE COURTESY, THE RELATIONSHIP THAT THEY BUILT WITH THEM AND THIS COURT AND IT DOESN'T GO UNNOTICED, SO THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE IT? I KNOW YOU ASKED FOR THIS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> NO. IT'S ALWAYS GOOD NEWS WHEN YOUR INSURANCE RATES GO DOWN, SO THIS IS A GREAT NEWS FOR THE TAXPAYERS IN THIS COMMUNITY, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> AND THEN I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION TO PASS WITH THE OPTIONS.
>> EXCUSE ME, JUDGE. DID WE WANT TO DISCUSS THE FLOOD OPTION?
>> I THOUGHT YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION?
>> I'M TALKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO CARRY THE
>> I KNOW WE DISCUSSED IT. I'LL LET TOMMY EXPLAIN.
>> YOU KNOW, BASICALLY OUR RECOMMENDATION IS NOT TO TAKE THAT. THE REASON WHY IS EVEN THOUGH THAT INCLUDES FLOOD, IT'S GOING TO EXCLUDE ANYTHING IN A AND B ZONES. WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW MANY OTHER PROPERTIES CAN BE TAKEN OUT, YOU BUY THE SEPARATE FLOOD PART. WE DON'T FEEL, EVEN WITH YOUR PAST HISTORY, IT'S REALLY ON THE ISLAND IN DIFFERENT SITUATIONS THAT IT IS WORTH THE EXTRA MONEY.
>> SO IS THIS LINE NUMBER TWO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? EXCLUDING, WHICH WOULD GIVE US MORE SAVINGS? WE TAKE THE OTHER OPTION AND YOU THINK WE'RE COVERED UP THERE?
>> WELL, WE'RE BASICALLY SUGGESTING YOU STAY WITH HOW YOU BOUGHT IT LAST YEAR. THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT IS.
>> YOU'RE STILL RECOMMENDING THE WHOLE GREEN COLUMN?
>> STILL EVERYTHING IN THE GREEN?
>> YES. I THINK HE BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE THERE WERE OTHER QUOTES INCLUDING FLOOD. WE DON'T REALLY SUGGEST YOU DO
THAT. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RECOMMENDED 2025 PROPERTY AND CASUALTY INSURANCE SUMMARY AS HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN ON THE SHEET WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDED.
>> I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN
>> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES WITH ONE MEMBER THAT HAS STEPPED OUT, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TOO.
[3. Receive update on Legislative items for the 89th Legislative Session. ]
>> ON ITEM NUMBER 3, I MAKE THE MOTION TO TABLE. I GOT A PHONE CALL THERE IS NO UPDATE FOR TODAY, SO WE WILL TABLE TO THE
>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? >> AYE.
>> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. COMMISSIONER, DO YOU
WANT TO BE SHOWN VOTING? >> YES.
>> HE WANTS TO BE SHOWN AS AN AYE ON THAT. THANK YOU. MOVING
[5. Discuss and consider execution of Amendment No. 3 to the Agreement with Sec-Ops, Inc. for Nueces County Security Services (RFP 3158-21), to extend the Agreement for the final additional year, with specified unit price increase, and related matters.]
ON TO ITEM NUMBER 3, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE EXECUTION WITH THE AGREEMENT FOR THE NUECES COUNTY FINAL ADDITIONAL YEAR WITHSPECIFIED UNIT PRICE INCREASES. >> THE CONTRACT ALLOWS 4%, 5%
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INCREASE, WHICH IS WHAT'S REPRESENTED HERE. THE SHERIFF'SOFFICE IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. >> IT IS BUDGETED? IS THIS FOR THE NEXT YEAR OR STARTS IMMEDIATELY?
>> THIS IS ADDING AN ADDITIONAL YEAR. CURRENT CONTRACT IS GOING TO EXPIRE JUNE 8, SO IT WILL START ON JUNE 9, YES.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION. >> SECOND.
>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE?
[6. Discuss and consider approving a funding source for Packery Channel Nature Park Shoreline Enhancement Project; Discuss and consider approving method of procurement IFB (Invitation for Bids) for Packery Channel Nature Park Shoreline Enhancement Project and authorize the Purchasing Agent to publish a notice and all related matters. ]
>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION
>> ITEM NUMBER 6, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING A FUNDING SOURCE FOR PACKERY CHANNEL NATURE PARK SHORELINE ENHANCEMENT PROJECT. THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS IN THERE, APPROVING METHOD OF PROCUREMENT, INVITATION FOR BIDS, AND TO AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASING AGENT TO PUBLISH A NOTICE. I LIKE HOW WE GET ALL OF THIS DONE IN ONE THING. DO YOU WANT TO TALK TO US
ABOUT THIS, SCOTT? >> SURE. IT'S 100% GRANT FUNDED THROUGH THE PROGRAM. THAT ONE IS AT $3.6, YEAH, $3.6 MILLION AND SOME CHANGE. SO WE'VE GOT OUR FEDERAL PART. WE'VE GOT OUR FEDERAL PERMIT. AN INDIVIDUAL PERMIT, NOT NATIONWIDE, INDIVIDUAL PERMIT IN SEVEN MONTHS. THAT'S UNHEARD OF. SO WE HAD TO GO OUT OF THE CORPORATION FROM THE ARMY CORPS THERE. A GOOD LADY BY THE NAME OF ASHLEIGH DID THAT ONE FOR US.
SO YEAH, I RECOMMEND YOU APPROVE THIS, GOING OUT FOR BIDS. WE'LL GET THIS OUT FOR BIDS, AND WE'LL PROBABLY BE DONE WITH IT SOME TIME IN 2026. THIS IS THE LIVING SHORELINE COMPONENT, AND THIS IS ALSO THE SMALL PUBLIC FISHING PIER. WHEN WE DO THE LIVING SHORELINE, IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU SEE BREAK WATERS, RIFT RAFT MATERIALS. YOU CAN'T STAY ON THE SHORE AND CAST OVER AND FISH. SO THE PIER WILL GO OUT. THE MAIN BODY OF THE PIER WILL
SIT OVER THE SHORELINE. YOU >> YOU HAVE THE MONEY IN HAND?
>> YES. >> THIS IS ANOTHER GREAT PROJECT. WE'VE GOTTEN BY THE COASTAL PARKS DIRECTOR, MR. CROSS, WHO IS THE GRANT KING OF THE NUECES COUNTY. SO I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM TO MOVE FORWARD.
>> YES. THE FUNDING SOURCE, THE METHOD OF PROCUREMENT, AND ALLOWING THE PURCHASING AGENT TO PUBLISH A NOTICE, SO ALL THE ITEMS ON THERE, IF YOU CAN READ THE AGENDA ITEM THAT IT IS
APPROVING ALL THREE AT ONCE. >> AT SOME POINT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CLOSE THAT SHORELINE OFF WHEN WE DO THIS. SO WHEN WE
>> TEMPORARILY. BUT WHEN WE GET READY TO --
>> BIG WORDS. >> WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CONTRACTORS' METHODS ARE GOING TO BE, WHETHER IT WILL BE FROM THE BARGE OR LAND. SO WE DON'T WANT TO DICTATE THAT. SO ONCE WE FIGURE THAT OUT WHILE THEY'RE DOING THAT, THE SHORELINE WON'T
BE ACCESSIBLE. >> WHEN WE DO THAT, AGAIN, THE JUDGE WAS VERY GOOD WHEN WE HAD TO DO SOME TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION ONLY. I HATE TO USE THE WORD, CLOSURE. BUT RESTRICTION, LET'S CALL IT RESTRICTION. SHE WAS VERY GOOD AT SENDING OUT A PRESS RELEASE, SO LET'S MAKE SURE WE DO THE
SAME THING. >> K I'LL HAVE A SIGN UP THAT SHOWS WHAT'S COMING, SO PEOPLE KNOW OKAY, LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE
GETTING. >> OKAY. DO YOU HAVE THAT
MOTION? >> APPROVE THE FUNDING SOURCE, APPROVE THE METHOD OF PROCUREMENT AND TO AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASING AGENT TO PUBLISH A NOTICE.
>> NOBODY, I'LL SECOND. YOU'RE SECONDING OR DO YOU WANT TO
TALK? >> I'LL SECOND, BUT I HAVE A
COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, YOUR HONOR. >> YES, PLEASE.
>> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, I'M NOT TRYING TO GET IN YOUR
BUSINESS WHATSOEVER. >> GET ON IN, MAN.
>> I WAS OUT OF TOWN THE LAST TWO DAYS, AND I WASN'T ABLE TO FOLLOW. I'M A LITTLE CURIOUS, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO GET UP TO SPEED, SCOTT. THE CITY JUST FINISHED A HUGE PROJECT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE GLL AND RESTORATION OF THE PACKERY CHANNEL SHORELINE. HOW DOES THIS PLAY INTO THAT? I MEAN --
>> THEY'RE NOT REALLY CONNECTED. WHAT YOU'RE DOING THERE, YOU'RE STABILIZING THE SHORELINE.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT HOW DOES THIS INTERFACE WITH THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI? THE CHANNEL, DOES THAT BELONG TO THE CITY, THE COUNTY?
>> WELL, IT'S SUBMERGED LANDS, SO IT BELONGS TO THE GLO. THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PACKERY CHANNEL ITSELF, BUT WE TOOK THE PROJECT BEFORE I SAT BECAUSE WE GOT A NO WAKE SIGN.
>> HE'S SAYING HOW IS -- THIS IS THE NATURE PARK THAT WE OWN.
>> OH. HE'S TRYING TO EXTINGUISH BEFORE YOU GO DOWN.
THIS IS PROPERTY THAT WE OWN. IT IS JUST CALLED THE PACKERY
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CHANNEL NATURE PARK BECAUSE IT BUTTS UP TO IT, BUT WE OWN THISPROPERTY. >> OKAY, THIS IS COUNTY. THAT'S
WHAT I'M GETTING THERE. >> THIS IS COUNTY PROPERTY.
>> YES, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DEED RESTRICTIONS ON IT, YOU KNOW. IT WAS DESIGNATED IN NATURE PARK BACK IN 2010 WHEN COMMISSIONER CASSUS WAS ON THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
>> I UNDERSTAND NOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY
[7. Discuss and consider approving a funding source for Packery Channel Nature Park Habitat Creation and Public Access Project; Discuss and consider approving method of procurement IFB (Invitation for Bids) for Packery Channel Nature Park Habitat Creation and Public Access Project and authorize the Purchasing Agent to publish a notice and all related matters. ]
>> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THE NEXT ONE, ITEM NUMBER 7, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING A FUNDING SOURCE FOR NATURE PARK HABITAT CREATION AND PUBLIC ACCESS PROJECT. IT LOOKS LIKE THIS WILL BE ALL THREE. THE FUNDING SOURCE, METHOD OF PROCUREMENT, AND AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASING AGENT TO PUBLISH A NOTICE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE FROM
THIS PROJECT THAN THE LAST ONE? >> THIS IS MORE UPLAND. I KNOW MOST OF YOU ALL HAVE BEEN OUT THERE AND SEEN THE CHANNEL. HOW WE DID THAT PROJECT WITH FEDERAL GRANT FUNDS A LONG TIME AGO. WE
EXTENDED THE BOARDWALK. >> THIS IS STILL ON THE COUNTY
>> LET'S MAKE IT CLEAR. YES. >> WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, WE'RE GOING TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL 308,000 LINEAR FEET OF BOARDWALK WITH COVERED KIOSKS AND BUMPOUTS, BUMPOUTS ARE LITTLE THINGS OUT, AND CREATE AN ADDITIONAL 2.5 ACRES OF MORE OF THIS BIRD HABITAT. WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS WITH GREAT DATA COLLECTION ON THE PROJECT. IT'S
JUST BEEN SUCCESSFUL. >> ANOTHER GRANT. IT'S NOT COSTING US. I MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A
SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> JUST REAL QUICK. AS YOU'RE GOING FORWARD, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF WE GOT THIS YET OR NOT, BUT IT WOULD BE REALLY COOL TO PUT OUT SOME RENDERINGS IF WE HAVE RENDERINGS, OR SOMETHING TO SHOW THE PUBLIC WHERE THIS IS AND WHAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY COOL PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER GREAT ENHANCEMENT OUT THERE. BUT IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE SOME VISUAL FOR GUYS LIKE ME WHO
NEED VISUAL. >> YES, SIR, I HAVE THEM.
>> I FIGURED YOU DID. IF YOU COULD SEND THEM TO US AND THE WHOLE COURT TO LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SURE WE COULD USE IT FOR PURPOSES THAT WE NEED TO USE IT FOR?
>> YES, I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT.
>> EXCELLENT POINT, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. I WOULD SAY TO ALL OF OUR DIRECTORS AND STAFF THAT ARE MAKING PRESENTATIONS. THE MORE PICTURES AND THE GRAPHICS YOU COULD HAVE, THE BETTER, SO WE UNDERSTAND. I WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO ASK THE QUESTION IF THIS IS CITY PROPERTY OR COUNTY PROPERTY. SO ANY WAY, ALL OF THAT IS VERY HELPFUL, SO THANK YOU.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY
>> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[8. Discuss and consider approval of 90-day Renewal for Dune Protection Permit for proposed single family residence at 109 Mustang Island Estates Drive (Previously 6300 SH 361 Lot 4 Mustang Island Estates), Corpus Christi, Nueces County, Texas 78373 (DPP-202203-03e) and all related matters. ]
>> I STILL GOT MORE. >> I KNOW, YOU'RE STILL THERE.
ITEM NUMBER 8, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF 90-DAY RENEWAL FOR DUNE PROTECTION PERMIT FOR THE PROPOSED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE AT 109 MUSTANG ISLAND ESTATES DRIVE. DO YOU WANT TO TALK TO US ABOUT THIS ONE, THE PROPOSED 90-DAY
RENEWAL? >> YEAH, THIS IS AN EXTENSION REQUEST FOR THE DUNE PROTECTION PERMIT. IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED ON JUNE 14, 2022. THERE'S BEEN NO CHANGES TO THE PLANS SINCE THAT PREVIOUS APPROVAL, AS FAR AS THREE-LEVEL, SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE LOCATED ON 109 MUSTANG ISLAND ESTATES.
OTHER IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDES THE DRIVEWAY, IN-GROUND POOL, FENCING, ALL CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES WILL OCCUR SEAWARD OF THE 1,000-FOOT LINE. THEY'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL 90 DAYS WHILE THEY GO THROUGH THE PERMIT PROCESS AGAIN, SO THERE IS NO GAP FOR THE PERMIT WHILE THEY'RE IN CONSTRUCTION. IT IS ANTICIPATED TO TAKE 12 TO 14 MONTHS.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. >> AYE.
[9. Receive into record Job Order Contract #NCCP-014 with LMC Corporation for the Horace Caldwell Pier Concession Renovation Project for $644,533.92 as authorized by the Coastal Parks Board on April 25th, 2025 and all related matters; Authorize reallocation of funds totaling $644,533.92 to create New Project "Horace Caldwell Pier Concession Renovation": $309,524.06 -2021 CO's - Horace Caldwell Pier Accessibility Ramp $15,052.47 - Hurricane Harvey fund balance - Padre Balli Park Office $97,565.43 - Hurricane Harvey fund balance - IB Magee Multipurpose Building $222,391.96 - Coastal Parks - Sale of Assests funds]
>> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU.
>> ITEM NUMBER 9. RECEIVE INTO RECORD JOB ORDER CONTRACT NCCP-014 WITH LMC CORPORATION FOR THE HORACE CALDWELL PIER CONCESSION RENOVATION PROJECT FOR $644,533.92. AS AUTHORIZED
BY THE COASTAL PARKS BOARD. >> ON THIS ONE, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY VOTE ON THIS. UNDER THE JOB ORDER CONTRACTING PROGRAM, THAT BID THERE FROM LMC. ANYTHING OTHER $50,000, I HAVE TO BRING TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT. THAT'S THE WAY THE JOB PROGRAM WAS SET UP. SO YOU REALLY SHOULD VOTE TO APPROVE THAT BID, AND THAT BID IS A SOLID BID. IT'S GOOD NUMBERS.
OUR ARCHITECT HAS ALREADY LOOKED AT IT. AND SO THAT IS A LITTLE
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CLARIFICATION I WANTED TO MAKE ON THAT UNDER THE JOB ORDERCONTRACT PROGRAM. >> AGAIN, THROUGH COMMISSIONER'S COURT DEDICATION, WE HAVE, AGAIN, DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE, BROUGHT THIS TO COURT BEFORE, VOTED ON THIS BEFORE. THESE WERE PRECINCT FOUR?
>> THE PREVIOUS JUDGE GOT THEM OVER THERE. I DON'T KNOW HOW
SHE GOT THEM THERE. >> DON'T SAY IT LIKE THAT.
>> THANK YOU. WE HAVE 25 MORE QUESTIONS.
>> NOW YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN THAT. >> WAY TO GO, SCOTT.
>> COMMISSIONER? >> YEAH, YEAH.
>> I THINK THERESA MAY HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU.
>> SHE DIDN'T PUT THEM OVER THERE, IT WAS VOTED ON BY THE COURT. DON'T SAY IT LIKE THAT BECAUSE YOU WILL RING EVERYBODY'S BELL. I KNOW YOU'RE JOKING, BUT JUST BE CAREFUL.
>> OH YEAH, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY GOT THERE.
>> BUT THEY WERE ALLOCATED. >> I DIDN'T REQUEST THEM.
>> THE 2021 COS WERE A PART OF THE CIP PLAN.
>> WE ALREADY HAVE THE ANSWER. THEY WERE ALREADY ALLOCATED.
>> THANK YOU. >> RIGHT, THE COURT VOTED ON
>> IT'S OKAY, NO PROBLEM. YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB, BUT THAT'S A SENSITIVE SUBJECT UP HERE FOR OBVIOUS REASONS, SO ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY VOTED ON BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT BECAUSE THERE HAD TO BE FUNDS ALLOCATED, SO THE PARK'S BOARD COULD APPROVE IT. SO LET'S BE REAL CLEAR ON THAT.
THE SALE OF ASSETS, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS FROM THE PROPERTY THAT WE SOLD, WHICH WE ALLOCATED AS A COURT, A PORTION OF THAT. THE LARGE PORTION OF THAT ALSO WENT INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
>> YES. >> AND CAN I JUST ADD TO THAT? THAT THE JOB ORDER CONTRACTING PROGRAM WAS APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT. IT WAS PROPERLY BID OUT PROJECT, LMC SAN AWARDED VENDOR, SO THEY MEET THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE PURCHASING ACT. SO THAT PROCESS IS LEGITIMATE IN TERMS OF SELECTING THAT VENDOR FOR THIS
PROJECT. >> DO WE SIGN THAT CONTRACT THEN
OR DO COASTAL PARKS SIGN IT? >> YOU SIGNED IT.
>> DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD BRING IT TO COURT K I THOUGHT DOES COASTAL PARKS TAKE CARE OF THIS ON THEIR OWN OR DO YOU NORMALLY
DO THIS ANY WAY. >> FOR ALL THE OTHER JOB ORDER CONTRACT PROJECTS, WHICH WE DO, SAME THING. WE COME UP WITH ONE ITEM. THESE ARE ALL 14 VENDORS THAT THE COURT APPROVED. WE'RE ALLOWED TO USE EITHER ONE OF THEM FOR THE PROJECT.
>> THE. PRAY WORKS GREAT. WE'RE GETTING IN A BATTLE RHYTHM WITH
THE PROJECT. >> I MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
>> YES, SIR, YOUR HONOR. AND MAYBE I JUST HAVE TO ASK. DO WE HAVE ANY ILLUSTRATIONS YET FROM THE ARCHITECTS?
>> YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY DO. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. I HAVE A FLOOR PLAN THE ARCHITECT PUT TOGETHER. I'LL E-MAIL IT TO YOU ALL.
>> PLEASE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I DEPARTMENT EVEN THINK ABOUT
IT. >> AND TO BRING ILLUSTRATIONS WHEN THEY CAN, SO YES. THANK YOU.
>> YEAH, JUST AS A PART OF THE ATTACHMENT, THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
>> THAT SPACE WAS BUILT IN 1983. IT HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN. IT WILL BE PRETTY NICE. THEN WE'LL PUT OUT AN RFP, AND THEN WE'LL GET THAT GOING IN THERE. I'VE GOT TEMPORARY STUFF SET UP THERE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE THE POINT OF
SALE. YOU NEED REVENUE. >> THE COMMISSIONER HAS A
QUESTION. >> OF THE DESIGN, DO WE VOTE ON THE DESIGN? I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER.
>> THIS IS PORT A. >> THERE IS NO WORK ON THE PIER.
THIS IS JUST RENOVATION OF THE INSIDE, THE INSIDE OF THE SPACE.
IT'S BUILT SPACE. >> IT'S ALREADY BUILT.
>> IT'S THE CONCESSION. >> I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER THAT.
>> AS FAR -- I DON'T REMEMBER IF THERE IS A DESIGN ON IT EITHER. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BEFORE. BUT WE ALREADY VOTED ON IT? IT IS A DONE DEAL AS FAR AS THE DESIGN?
>> WE VOTED ON THE ALLOCATION AND THE PROJECT, BUT I HAVEN'T
SEEN -- >> THE FLOOR PLAN DESIGN? NO, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT. THE PARK BOARD DID.
>> LET ME TELL YOU, THEY'VE SEEN IT EVERY MONTH FOR A YEAR.
>> NOT JUST THEM SEEING IT. >> IF I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, I WOULD HAVE ATTACHED A LITTLE DIAGRAM. I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. PUSLEY MADE A GREAT IDEA.
>> FOR THE FUTURE OF THE PROJECTS.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
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ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? >> AYE.
>> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER 10, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING EXECUTION OF SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER TWO BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY AND JACOBS ENGINEERING GROUP FOR THE REBUILDING OF THE BOB HALL PIER FOR ADDITIONAL SCOPE OF WORK, ADDITIONAL COST, EXTENDING TERMINATION DATE, AND RELATED MATTERS. I HAVE A NOTE TO PULL THIS TO EXECUTIVE POTENTIALLY?
>> YES, WE HAVE TO GO TO EXECUTIVE ON THIS.
>> SORRY FOR READING THAT ALL OUT THEN.
[11. Discuss and consider upcoming Commissioners Court meeting date(s), workshop date(s), and related matters.]
>> MY BAD, I SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT IT.
>> IT'S ALL GOOD. >> ITEM NUMBER 11 THEM. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER UPCOMING COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING DATES, WORKSHOP DATES. ANYBODY HAVE ANY CONFLICT THEY WANT TO
-- >> IS IT APPROPRIATE IF WE WANTED TO ASK FOR SOMETHING TO BE INCLUDED ON A FUTURE MEETING IN THIS SECTION OR IS THAT NOT DOABLE?
>> THIS IS JUST DATES. >> IF I WANTED TO SUGGEST --
>> IT SAYS RELATED MATTERS. >> YEAH, GO AHEAD. WHAT DO YOU
WANT? >> WELL, I THINK FURTHER TO COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ'S COMMENTS. WE OUGHT TO SCHEDULE A PRESENTATION ITEM, IF YOU WILL, FOR A FUTURE MEETING TO BASICALLY INFORM THE PUBLIC OF WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AND JUST GIVE AN UPDATE. I THINK THAT IS A VERY APPROPRIATE THING TO DO AT THE NEXT MEETING IF WE COULD.
>> YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA IF YOU WANT.
>> JUST MAKE IT AN AGENDA ITEM. >> YES, OKAY. THANK YOU.
>> THAT'S ALL I HAD. >> OKAY, ANY OTHER SCHEDULING
DATES, PROBLEMS, ANYTHING? >> I LOOKED, AND IT DOESN'T IMPACT THE MAIN CALENDAR, BUT I WILL BE OUT OF THE COUNTRY FROM
JUNE 30 THROUGH JULY 9. >> WE'LL MISS YOU.
>> MINE SOUNDED MORE SINCERE. >> MOVING ON TO ITEM B1, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADOPTING A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CONSTRUCTION OF IMPROVEMENTS TO THE WATER SYSTEM AND WASTEWATER SYSTEM FACILITIES IN BANQUETE, TEXAS AREA IN COLLABORATION WITH THE NUECES COUNTY WATER CONTROL AND IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT 5, AND AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY AND NUECES COUNTY WATER CONTROL, AND IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT 5, RELATED TO THE BANQUETE WATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND RELATED MATTERS. COMMISSIONER PUSLEY, I BELIEVE
YOU -- >> CAN I ASK REAL QUICK BEFORE HE STARTS. I WOULDN'T MIND TAKING THIS ONE TO EXECUTIVE.
I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE TOO THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR ATTORNEYS ON, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
>> NO, THAT'S FINE. I'M FINE WITH THAT. YEAH.
>> THEN MOVING ON, WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT ONE TO PUBLIC WORKS. ITEM NUMBER 1, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 1, INCREASE OF $13,--
>> IS THERE AN 11? DID I MISS IT?
>> THAT'S THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT ONE. WE'RE BRINGING B1 INTO EXECUTIVE. OKAY, I'M WHERE I NEED TO BE.
[1. Discuss and consider approval of Change Order No. 1 increase of $13,853.75 for Precinct 1, ARPA Stonegate Drainage Improvement Project, and all related matters.]
>> SORRY. >> THAT'S OKAY. I NEED HELP ALL THE TIME. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 1, INCREASE OF $13,853.75 FOR PRECINCT 1, ARPA STONEGATE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. ALL RELATED MATTERS, PRECINCT 1.
COMMISSIONER PUSLEY AND JUAN IS UP THERE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE
INCREASE? >> YES, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.
THIS IS JUST AN INCREASE FOR THE ELECTRICAL FOR NUECES ELECTRIC TO RELOCATE. THIS IS WITHIN THE DRAINAGE STRUCTURE. AND THEN IT IS ALSO TO PUT AN ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE, NOT AN ADDITIONAL, BUT A SYSTEM FOR THE WATER REUSE TYPE OF STRUCTURE. IT IS JUST A
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> SORRY. >> THAT'S OKAY. ALL THOSE --
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> YOUR HONOR, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S INFORMATION. THIS IS A DETENTION POND, IF YOU WILL, FOR THAT WHOLE AREA WHERE WE HAVE HAD SIGNIFICANT DRAINAGE ISSUES.
AND THE PROJECT IS PROGRESSING VERY WELL. I GUESS JUAN, I HAD ONE QUICK QUESTION. SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER, I MISSED WHAT THIS
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TRASH THING IS ALL ABOUT. CAN YOU EXMAIN THAT REAL QUICK?>> THIS IS FOR THE DRAINAGE STRUCTURE. IT IS JUST TO COVER FOR ITSELF, SO IT DOESN'T GO INTO THE STRUCTURE. IT IS JUST
MORE OF THE DEBRIS MECHANISM. >> AND THEN WE'LL HAVE PERIODIC TIMES WHEN WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO CLEAN THAT OUT?
>> YES, SIR. IT WILL BE A PART OF IT ONCE WE GO OUT THERE AND WE START REUSING THE WATER, WE COULD GO OUT THERE, GOING IN A CERTAIN LEVEL AND TO GO OUT THERE AND CLEAN IT UP. I WANT TO MENTION THIS PROJECT IS ABOUT 100 DAYS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
IT'S UNDER THE BUDGET. SO PROBABLY THE NEXT COMMISSIONER'S COURT, WE'LL BRING THE PROPOSAL.
>> THE CONTRACTOR IS DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB.
>> YES, COMMISSIONER. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A
SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE.
[2. Discuss and consider adopting an Order approving Request-For-Proposals (RFP) under Local Government Code 262.030 as the method of procurement for purchase of Elevator Maintenance Services, authorizing the Purchasing Agent to publish a notice, and delegating evaluation authority to an Evaluation Committee; and related matters.]
>> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER 22, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADOPTING AN ORDER APPROVING A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS UNDER THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 262.030 AS THE METHOD OF PROCUREMENT FOR PURCHASE OF ELEVATOR MAINTENANCE SERVICES, AND AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASING AGENT TO PUBLISH A NOTICE AND DELEGATE EVALUATION AUTHORITY TO AN EVALUATION
COMMITTEE, AND RELATED MATTERS. >> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, REQUESTING FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE ELEVATORS. THAT WAY WE COULD GET SOME ADDITIONAL PROPOSALS FOR LOOKING AT OTHER
CONTRACTORS. >> SO THIS WILL BE A THREE TIME REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASING AGENT TO PUBLISH THE NOTICE, AND DELEGATE THE EVALUATION AUTHORITY TO
COMMITTEE. >> THAT'S CORRECT, JUDGE.
>> AND DOES THIS -- I'M SURE THIS DOES, BUT JUST LIKE FOR PUBLIC PURCHASES TO STAY. DOES THIS COVER US 24/7 FOR THE PART
OF THE PROPOSAL? >> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. >> YES, MA'AM, IT'S FOR THE
COURTHOUSE AND THE JAIL. >> YES. SO I MAKE THE MOTION, I
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> JUST A QUICK COMMENT, YOUR HONOR. JUAN, WHEN WE GET TO THIS, I'M GOING TO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE ELEVATORS AND THE TOWERS ARE SEPARATE AND DIFFERENT IN THE JAIL. BUT ALL OF US HAVE BEEN COMING IN HERE FOR A WHILE. THESE ELEVATORS THAT SERVICE THE TWO FLOORS HERE ARE ALWAYS BROKEN. THEY'VE BEEN BROKEN FOR YEARS. SO WE NEED TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ON A GO FORWARD BASIS. DO WE NEED TO UPGRADE THOSE? AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN CURIOUS AS TO WHY THERE IS NO STAIRWAY ON THE OTHER END OF THE BUILDING. THERE IS ON THIS SIDE, BUT IF SOMETHING WAS TO HAPPEN DOWN THERE, WHICH IS BROKE DOWN NOW, HOW ARE PEOPLE IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION GET OUT OF THAT AREA THERE, SO WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT
>> THANK YOU. AND POTENTIALLY IN BUDGET, JUST AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THROUGHOUT THE YEARS. WE ARE WAITING ON PARTS FOR THESE ELEVATORS HAS COST US QUITE A BIT OF TIME, POTENTIALLY WORKING WITH THE VENDORS. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF ELEVATORS AS WELL. BUT YES, WE NEED MAJOR DISCUSSIONS COMING UP. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FIVE, SAY AYE?
>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION
[3. Discuss and consider posting the speed limit signs on County Road 105 North of State Highway 44 outside the city limits of Agua Dulce and all related matters. . PCT 1]
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER 3, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER POSTING THE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS ON COUNTY ROAD 105 NORTH OF STATE HIGHWAY 44 OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS OF AGUA DULCE AND RELATED MATTERS.THIS IS PRECINCT 1. >> YES, YOUR HONOR. THE MAYOR AND SOME OF THE CONSTITUENT THERE IS CONTACTED ME EARLY ON AND MADE A REQUEST FOR THIS. I WENT OVER, VISITED THE AREA. I GOT WITH JUAN AND HIS STAFF MEMBERS JOINED US TO LOOK AT THIS. THEY DID A SURVEY, A TRAFFIC COUNTY, IF YOU WILL.
PUBLIC WORKS HAS RECOMMENDED THIS AS A SOLUTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS. JUAN, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS.
>> NO, SIR. WE'RE RECOMMENDING POSTING THE SPEED LIMIT SIGN,
>> SECOND WITH SOME DISCUSSION, JUDGE.
>> YES. >> SO THIS DOESN'T FALL UNDER
TXDOT? >> IT IS COUNTY ROAD 105.
>> OH, I WAS THINKING IT WAS 44. OKAY, I WAS LOOKING AT THE MAP, A LITTLE BACKWARDS BECAUSE YOU HAD 105 RUNNING WHAT LOOKED LIKE
EAST TO WEST TO ME. >> YES, SIR, IT'S OUR COUNTY
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ROAD. >> THAT'S WHAT IT IS. GOT IT.
>> I ASKED THAT EARLIER TOO. >> I SAW IT LAYING ON THE SIDE.
I'M USED TO SEEING 105 GO NORTH AND SOUTH.
>> YES, SIR. >> THEN WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER PUSLEY AND COMMISSIONER, I WAS LOOKING AT YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
[4. Discuss and consider authorizing the Director of Public Works to procure a consultant to assist with the Nueces County Courthouse Fire Protection System, and related matters.]
>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED ISN'T THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER 4, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS TO PROCURE A CONSULTANT TO ASSIST WITH THE NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE FIRE PROTECTION SYSTEM AND RELATED MATTERS.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? >> AYE.
>> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES.
>> WHERE IS THE FUNDING COMING FROM?
>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO -- WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND IT.
>> THEY WILL BRING A PROPOSAL BACK, SO WE KNOW HOW MUCH WE NEED, AND THEN WE COULD FIND IT, LOOK FOR THE FUNDS.
>> YES. >> DO YOU WORK WITH ANYBODY WHEN
YOU DO CONSULTANTS LIKE THAT? >> YES, JUDGE. WE CAN REACH OUT
TO SEVERAL OF THEM. >> KEEP IN TOUCH WITH TERESA AND
OUR OFFICE AS WELL. >> YES, MA'AM, I WILL.
>> ITEM D1 -- >> THANK YOU, JUDGE,
[1. Discuss and consider conditional selection of Snelling Staffing and BuzzClan, LLC for Personnel Services (RFP 3306-25).]
COMMISSIONERS. >> I APPRECIATE IT, SORRY.
>> PURCHASING, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CONDITIONAL SELECTION OF SNELLING STAFFING AND BUZZCLAN. DO WE HAVE A MOTION
AND A SECOND? >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL
THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? >> AYE.
>> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. I WOULD WANT TO ADD MELINDA DID AN EXCELLENT JOB OF REVIEWING. WE HAD ABOUT 14 DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT APPLIED FOR THIS, AND SHE WENT THROUGH ALL THAT WORK VERY DILIGENTLY, ARRIVING THE AT RECOMMENDATION
YOU HAVE TODAY. >> THANK YOU, MELINDA.
>> ITEM E1, AUDITOR'S OFFICE. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING APPROVING THE SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE WITH SUPERION, LLC,
[1. Discuss and consider authorizing approving the sole source purchase with Superion, LLC, a CentralSquare Company, INC, for ONESolution maintenance renewal of the ONESolution financial system for Nueces County Auditor's Office in the amount of either $66,148.45 for 6 months or $132,296.91 for 1 year and related matters.]
CENTRAL SQUARE COMPANY, INC., FOR ONE SOLUTION MAINTENANCE RENEWAL OF THE ONE SOLUTION FINANCIAL SYSTEM FOR NUECES COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE. I BELIEVE WE HAD THIS ON THE AGENDA, AND THEN YOU HAD A MEETING WITH COMMISSIONER PUSLEY, AND I ASSUME YOU WORKED THINGS OUT? DO YOU WANT TO TELLUS HOW THINGS WENT? >> YES, MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO GO WITH THE SIX MONTHS. WE COULD NOT GET THEM TO AGREE TO ANY OPTION. IF WE WENT WITH THE YEAR AND FINISHED EARLY, WE WOULD LOSE ALL THE MONEY WE PUT INTO IT. SO AT SIX MONTHS, WE SHOULD GET ALL THE DATA ON OUR SERVERS, AND BE ABLE TO TRANSFER IT INTO THE WORK DAY AND BE DONE WITH ONE SOLUTION AT THAT POINT.
>> AND DARRYL WAS INCLUDED IN THOSE MEETINGS, UNDERSTANDING WE NEED TO GET THAT TRANSFERRED AND UP AND RUNNING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. COMMISSIONER PUSLEY, YOU CHAIRED THAT MEETING?
>> I DID, YOUR HONOR. I HAD ALL THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME. I LEFT IT LAYING ON MY DESK. CAN YOU PLEASE BRING THAT TO ME. WE WENT OVER THIS EXTENSIVELY IN TWO MEETINGS. THE GOOD NEWS IS WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO A ONE YEAR CONTRACT ON THIS, IT WILL BE A SIX MONTH CONTRACT WITH ONE SOLUTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
I.T. FEELS CONFIDENT THEY CAN REQUIRE ALL THE DATA IN THE END, AND THEN WE'LL START THE PROCESS OF MOVING IT OVER. THEY HAVE TWO APPLICATIONS THAT WE WILL NEED TO LICENSE TO MAKE THAT PROCESS GO AS SMOOTHLY AS POSSIBLE. THE COST OF THAT IS GOING TO BE AROUND $50,000, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. IS THAT RIGHT? LIKE I SAID, I DON'T HAVE MY SHEET.
>> SO WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THE HARD QUOTE ON THAT. THAT WAS BASED ON THE SOFT QUOTE. WE HAD SOMETHING THAT CAME IN THIS MORNING TO MY TEAM. THEY HAD MISUNDERSTOOD OR WE HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD. IT LOOKS LIKE THE TOTAL FOR BOTH IS AROUND THE SAME PRICE AS THE ONE SOLUTION FOR ONE YEAR. SO THAT $50,000 WAS JUST FOR THE PRISON TO BRING IT IN.
>> AND THAT IS WHAT I SAID, FOR THE TWO APPLICATIONS FOR THE PRISON AND THE OTHER PIECE SUCCESS, IS THAT WHAT IT IS
CALLED? >> THE WORK DAY SUCCESS PLAN.
>> IT WILL BE ABOUT $50,000 FOR BOTH OF THOSE.
>> NO, HE IS SAYING IT WILL BE THE SAME AS THE ONE YEAR. HE IS
SAYING NOW IT WILL BE $132,000? >> YES.
>> IT WILL BE THE TWO COSTS? >> RIGHT.
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>> SO I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION IT WAS $50,000 FOR BOTH, BUT AS I ASKED AGAIN, IT WAS $50,000 FOR EACH, AND THEN IT IS ACTUALLY $90 AND $50. SO ONE IS $90 AND ONE IS $50. THEY WERE TRYING TO COMBINE THE TWO. AND I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE.
>> AND WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF THAT IN ORDER TO PROCEED?
>> YOU DO NOT. >> PRESUME IS THE ONE YOU DO.
IT'S A LONGER TERM ITEM THAT WILL HELP OPTIMIZE EVERY YEAR.
SO EVERY YEAR, WE WOULD GET ONGOING SUPPORT FROM ON DATA
OPTIMIZE. >> I THINK DARRYL IS BACK THERE.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD WHILE HE GETS THE INFORMATION?
>> YES. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW THAT HAS BEEN FUNDED. WE ARE WORKING ON GETTING THE DATA FROM ONE SOLUTION INTO A DATABASE SERVER HERE LOCALLY. THEN IT'S A MATTER OF GETTING THAT DATA OVER INTO WORK DAY. THAT'S A PART OF THE FAZE THAT IS BEING FUNDED AND IT HAS BEEN FUNDED, WHAT HE'S WORKING ON NOW. I WAS LOOKING AT AN E-MAIL BETWEEN THEM. PRIOR TO BRINGING IT TO COURT AND WITH THE STATEMENT OF WORK ATTACHED. MAKING IT VERY CLEAR THAT THAT WILL BE THE CASE WHERE THERE IS A LITTLE CONCLUSION THERE WHERE THESE ARE GREAT TOOLS AND THEY HELP YOU WORK YOUR DATA INTO THE WORK DAY, WHERE THERE IS NO COMMITMENT ON THAT RIGHT NOW.
THE BIGGEST THING HERE TO ME WAS THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT THIS ONE SOLUTION, RETAINING THEM. THE SIX MONTH WILL SUFFICE BECAUSE IF WE CAN'T DO IT IN SIX MONTHS, THEN TO ME, THERE IS SOME PART OF IT THAT IS NOT DOABLE. SO WITH STRADA RIGHT NOW, IT'S WORKING WITH THE PIECES, WHY THE DATA DIDN'T COME OVER PROPERLY IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO WE JUST HAVE TO GET TO THAT PART, WHERE WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THEM WITH THIS DATA. AND ALSO WITH THIS PHASE THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE WORKING ON SOME OF THE ITEMS WITHIN WORK DAY DIRECTLY, GETTING THE BUDGET STRAIGHTENED OUT FOR GRAYSON AND HIS GROUP.
>> WAIT A MINUTE. I THOUGHT WE WERE GETTING AWAY FROM THEM?
>> YES. WELL, I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
SEE, THEY'RE WORKING ON THIS PHASE THAT WAS DONE THAT YOU ALL APPROVED. WHEN THEY ARE ALREADY INSIDE OF WORK AND THE WORK DAY APPLICATION. SO I'M NOT REALLY CHANGING ANYTHING FROM OUR CONVERSATION YESTERDAY OTHER THAN JUST REMINDING EVERYONE THAT WE HAVE STRADA WORKING ON THE DATA NOW. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO BE KEEPING AN EYE ON WITH THEM. AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHAT DO WE REALLY NEED TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH WORK DAY ON BEFORE
WE MAKE ANY FURTHER COMMITMENTS. >> I GUESS THAT'S NOT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD IN THE CONVERSATION YESTERDAY.
>> YES. A LOT OF THIS GOT CLEARED UP. I WAS STILL DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH. I WENT BACK AND TALKED TO WORK DAY AGAIN BECAUSE WHENEVER I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT OUR CONVERSATION YESTERDAY, WITH THIS, WHAT WAS OVERLOOKED WAS THAT THE WORK DAY HAD SENT A PRICE PROPOSAL ON THE PRISON. AND THEN IT HAD TWO DIFFERENT COSTS AND THE LOWER COST WAS ASSOCIATED WITH PURCHASING IT BUNDLED WITH WSP, WHICH STANDS FOR WORK DAY SUCCESS PLANS. SO NO ONE WAS SEEING IT. WHENEVER I SAW THE WRITE UP FROM GRAYSON THAT HE WAS GOING TO HAND OVER TO YOU FOR NOTES FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM, I PICKED UP ON THAT, AND I ACQUIRED WITH THEM TO GET SOME STUFF, AND THEN ACTUALLY HARRY HAD BEEN DOING THE SAME THING.
WHEN I SAW GRAYSON THIS MORNING, WE BOTH HAD THE SAME NUMBER THERE, SO THAT WAS AN OVERSIGHT. BUT THAT'S NOT A COMMITMENT.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM RIGHT NOW WAS THIS DATA THAT FAILED AT IMPLEMENTATION TIME AT THE END OF THAT. TO ME, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIX RIGHT NOW SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE AT IMPLEMENTATION TIME. SO WE GOT TO GET THROUGH
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THAT FIRST. >> SO WE CHANGED THE CONVERSATION FROM WHAT WE HAD YESTERDAY?
>> A LITTLE BIT. >> A LITTLE BIT. WELL, SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME ABOUT THAT THIS MORNING BEFORE I CAME IN TO COURT AND MADE A FOOL OUT OF MYSELF.
>> WE HAD THE CONVERSATION, THE THREE OF US THIS MORNING, AND THEN THAT CONVERSATION RAN RIGHT UP TO 9:00, AND THAT'S WHEN
THEY CAME IN HERE. >> OKAY, I'LL STOP YOU THERE.
THE ONE THING THE COURT ASKED ME TO DO LAST WEEK OR I VOLUNTEERED TO DO WAS TO FIND OUT WHETHER WE NEEDED A ONE-YEAR EXTENSION OR SIX-MONTH EXTENSION OF PURCHASING OR TRYING TO WORK WITH ONESOLUTION THAT WE CAN DO THAT, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT IS WHAT YOU NEED TO FIND OUT TODAY.
>> HOW MUCH? >> WHAT I REQUEST ANSWER IS $66,148.45 FOR A SIX-MONTH CONTRACT.
>> AND WHAT GRAYSON IS SAYING IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, AND WHAT DARRYL IS SAYING, IT MAY BE DIFFERENT.
>> THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE RIGHT NOW TO GET THAT.
>> THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME COSTS DOWN THE ROAD FOR ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR MOVING THE DATA. THIS $66,000 IS TO ALLOW US ACCESS TO THE ONE SOLUTION APPLICATION TO FINISH EXPORTING THE DATA OUT OF THEIR DATABASE OVER INTO THE WORKDAY DATABASE, BUT WE ARE JUST GOING TO GET THAT IN A FLAT FILE FORMAT, AND THEN WE'LL NEED TO HAVE ADDITIONAL CONSULTING AND ADDITIONAL APPLICATIONS TO HELP MANEUVER THAT FROM THE FLAT FILE INTO WORKDAY. WHAT I WAS TOLD YESTERDAY AT 1:00 WHEN WE MET WAS THAT THAT WAS GOING TO INVOLVE AN APPLICATION CALLED PRISM, AND ANOTHER MODULE OF IT, WORKDAY CALLS SUCCESS PLANNING.
THE COST OF THAT WAS GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF
$50,000. >> CONSTANCE HAS I THINK
SOMETHING SHE WOULD LIKE TO SAY. >> COMMISSIONER, YOU'RE CORRECT.
>> SPEAK IN YOUR MICROPHONE, MA'AM.
>> THE COST FOR PRISM, IF WE BUNDLE IT WITH THE WORKDAY SOLUTION WOULD BE ABOUT $50,000. BUT THAT $50,000 IS ONLY FOR ONE
>> YES, SIR. >> SO YOU MADE IT CORRECT.
>> IN ADDITION TO THE $66,000, CORRECT?
>> YES, THE $66,000 IS PHASE ONE TO BRING THE INFORMATION IN TO THE COUNTY. AND THEN TO INCORPORATE IT INTO OUR SYSTEM IS THE $49,000. IF WE WERE NOT TO DO THE WORKDAY SOLUTIONS, THE COST WOULD BE ALMOST $69,000 SEPARATE. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE WORKDAY SOLUTIONS, WE COULD JUST GO WITH THE PRISM.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO IF WE BUNDLED PRISM WITH THE WORKDAY SOLUTION, THE COST WOULD BE CHEAPER.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT YOU ALL TOLD ME YESTERDAY YOU WERE GOING TO NEED TWO APPLICATIONS TO DO THIS?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> PRISM AND SUCCESS, CORRECT?
>> SUCCESS, I DON'T THINK WE NEED THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD CONSIDER. BUT TO READ THE DATA.
>> THE COST OF PRISM IS GOING TO BE?
>> IT IS $49,000 -- >> $50,000?
>> IF WE BUNDLE IT WITH SUCCESS. IF WE DON'T USE SUCCESS, IT
WILL BE $69,000. >> WHEN WILL THIS BE NEEDED?
>> IT IS MORE IF WE DON'T USE IT?
>> CORRECT. IF YOU BUY TWO THINGS TOGETHER, IT'LL BE CHEAPER THAN IF YOU BUY ONE BY ITSELF. WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED THE WORKDAY SUCCESS TO GET THE DATA.
>> OKAY. BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER ON WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO NEED THAT YET? I UNDERSTOOD YESTERDAY WHEN WE TALKED THAT
YOU WERE GOING TO NEED IT? >> THAT I'LL HAVE TO DEFER TO
GRAYSON AND DARRYL ON THAT. >> THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD ME.
>> ALL WE'RE DOING TODAY IS ONE SOLUTION?
>> CORRECT. >> SO WE'RE GETTING INTO
>> JUST CLARIFICATION. I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER PUSLEY JUMPING INTO THIS, BUT YOU DIDN'T MAKE A FOOL OF YOURSELF, BUT IT IS FRUSTRATING. I KNOW YOU'RE FRUSTRATED AND I
UNDERSTAND WHY. >> OKAY. BUT COMMISSIONERS, JUDGE, WHAT I WANT TO CLARIFY, MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTOOD IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SIX MONTH CONTRACT WITH ONESOLUTION TO REQUIRE ALL OF OUR DATA, AND THE COST OF THAT IS GOING TO BE
>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE?
>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. AND I AM SURE WE WILL HAVE MANY MORE
[4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.]
DISCUSSIONS ON THIS, IT LOOKS LIKE. I THINK WE'RE ABOUT READY[01:50:03]
TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE. EXECUTIVE SESSION, PUBLIC NOTICE IS GIVEN THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY ELECT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ANY TIME DURING A MEETING TO DISCUSS MATTERS LISTED ANYWHERE ON THE AGENDA, WHEN AUTHORIZED BY THE PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. TO THE EXTENT THERE'S BEEN A PAST PRACTICE OF DISTINGUISHING ITEMS FOR PUBLIC DELIBERATION AND THOSE FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE PUBLIC IS ADVISED THAT THE COURT IS DEPARTING FROM THAT PRACTICE, AND RESERVES THE RIGHT TO DISCUSS ANY LISTED AGENDA ITEM IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WHEN AUTHORIZED BY LAW TO DO SO. IN THE EVENT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT ELECTS TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION REGARDING AN AGENDA ITEM, THE SECTION OR SECTIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE, VERNON'S TEXAS CODES, SECTION 551.01, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL HOLD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH ATTORNEYS INCLUDING MATTERS RELATED TO LITIGATIONS, DELIBERATE REGARDING REAL PROPERTY, PROSPECTIVE GIFTS, PERSONNEL MATTERS, INCLUDING TERMINATION, COUNTY ADVISORY BODIES, SECURITY DEVICES, AND/OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND OTHER MATTERS THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. UPON COMPLETION OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY IN AN OPEN SESSION TAKE SUCH ACTION AS APPROPRIATE ON ITEMS DISCUSSED IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. TODAY'S ITEM A IS CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND OUTSIDE COUNSEL ON LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO CAUSE NUMBER 2024-CCV-60001-3, NUECES COUNTY VERSES JONES FAMILY TRUST, AND ALL RELATED MATTERS. GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071. ITEM B, CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING THE CORPUS CHRISTI HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THE CAMERON COUNTY HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION TAX-EXEMPT ISSUE, AND ALL RELATED MATTERS. TAKE ACTION IN OPEN SESSION IF NECESSARY. GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071. THIS ONE DIDN'T HAVE IT ON THERE. ITEM C, CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING THE CPS ENERGY TAX EXEMPTION ISSUE, AND ALL RELATED MATTERS. TAKE ACTION IN OPEN SESSION IF NECESSARY, 551.071 GOVERNMENT CODE ON THAT ONE AS WELL. UNLESS YOU TELL ME OTHERWISE. THANK YOU. ITEM D, CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND OUTSIDE COUNSEL ON LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO SARA LONGORIA VERSES NUECES COUNTY 2:25-CV-00012, IN THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071, DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND TAKE ACTION IN REGULAR SESSION IF NECESSARY. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING OPTIONS, REGARDING HIGH COST PRESCRIPTION CLAIMS AND RELATED MATTERS. TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071, TAKE ACTION IN OPEN SESSION IF NECESSARY. ITEM F, CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ON THE HIRING OF RICARDO NAVARRO WITH DENTON NAVARRO, ROCHA BERNAL, HYDE, AND ZACH PC ATTORNEY AT LAW. ITEM G, CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, EVALUATION, REASSESSMENT, OR DUTIES OF THE NUECES COUNTY DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES APPLICANTS. TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071, AND TAKE ACTION IF NECESSARY. AND ITEM 3A10, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING EXECUTION OF SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER 2 BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY, JACOBS ENGINEERING GROUP FOR THE REBUILDING OF BOB HALL PIER FOR ADDITIONAL SCOPE OF WORK, ADDITIONAL COST EXTENDED, TERMINATION DATES, AND RELATED MATTERS. GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071. ITEM B1, APPROVING THE CONSTRUCTION TO THE WATER SYSTEM AND THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM FACILITIES IN THE BANQUETE, TEXAS AREA, IN COLLABORATION WITH NUECES COUNTY WATER CONTROL AND IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 5. AND AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY AND NUECES COUNTY WATER CONTROL AND IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT 5. AND THIS WOULD BE GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071 AS WELL. IT IS 10:56. THOSE ARE THE ONLY ITEMS WE HAD TO PULL IN, AND I AM