[1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:20] >>> LORD WE ARE TOLD IN YOUR WORD WE ARE TO HAVE THE SAME MIND IN US THAT WAS IN YOUR. WHEN IT CAME TO THIS WORLD NOT TO BE SERVED, BUT TO SERVE AND GIVE YOUR LIFE FOR ANY, SO WE PRAY THAT THIS COURT HAVE YOUR HEART AND YOUR MIND TODAY LED BY YOUR SPIRITS EVERYTHING SAID AND DONE TODAY BE FOR THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE AND THE GLORY OF YOUR NAME WE PRAY IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> THANK YOU, YOU MADE ME SEATED. WE HAVE ALL COMMISSIONERS PRESENT. IT IS WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 16, WE ARE AT THE NUECES COUNTY COURTROOM 901 LEOPARD AND IT IS 9:11. I WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. NEXT AGENDA ITEM, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES OR CONFLICTS OF INTEREST FROM ANYONE? IF YOU HAVE ONE LATER AND NEED TO BRING IT UP, YOU [1. Discuss and consider adopting a resolution designating the month of October 2024 as “Domestic Violence and Prevention Month”; and related matters. ] CAN WHEN THE ITEM IS BROUGHT UP. ADOPT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTIONS PROCLAMATIONS AND/OR ORDERS. ITEM NUMBER ONE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION DESIGNATING THE MONTH OF OCTOBER 2024 AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND PREVENTION MONTH AND RELATED MATTERS. YOU ARE GOING TO READ THAT? >> THE IMPACT OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE EXTENDS BEYOND THE IMMEDIATE VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS AFFECTING CHILDREN AND FAMILIES AND THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE WITH LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES ON PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH ECONOMIC STABILITY AND OVERALL WELL-BEING. WHEREAS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE RELATED HOMICIDES AND INJURIES ARE PREVENTABLE WHEN COMMUNITIES TAKE ACTION TO SUPPORT SURVIVORS, HOLD ABUSERS ACCOUNTABLE AND PROVIDE ACCESS TO SERVICES SUCH AS EMERGENCY SHELTER, LEGAL ASSISTANCE, COUNSELING AND ADVOCACY WHEREAS NATIONAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND PREVENTION MONTH OBSERVED EACH OCTOBER PROVIDES OPPORTUNITY FOR INDIVIDUALS, COMMUNITIES AND GOVERNMENT ENTITIES TO PROMOTE AWARENESS, SUPPORT SURVIVORS AND WORK TOWARD THE ERADICATION OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. THEREFORE NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT JOINS THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND ENCOURAGING SOLIDARITY WITH SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND REAFFIRMS COMMITMENT TO ENSURING THAT THE UNITY IS A SAFE PLACE FOR ALL RESIDENTS BY STATING SUPPORT RESOURCES AND ADVOCACY TO ALL SURVIVORS. BE IT PROCLAIMED THE MISSIONERS COURT DOES DESIGNATE THE MONTH OF OCTOBER 2024 AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS AND PREVENTION MONTH. ADOPTED BY THE VOTE OF COMMISSIONERS COURT NUECES COUNTY COUNTY TEXAS OCTOBER 16, 2024. >> SO MOVED. A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE SOME FOLKS WHO WANT TO TALK. AND ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAK TOO? >> GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. WE ARE GLAD AND HONORED TO BRING THIS TO THE COURT TODAY IN CONJUNCTION WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE PERFECT DOOR AND I HAVE MARSHA PETTIS IN THE OFFICE, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO THANK OUR PARTNERS IN THIS VERY IMPORTANT MISSION THAT WE ALL HAVE AND WE WERE TALKING IN THE OFFICE TODAY AND PEOPLE WERE SAYING HAPPY THIS AND THAT AND WHAT I THINK YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IS, YOU CANNOT BUY, YOU CANNOT PAY A SALARY TO ANYBODY FOR THEM TO WAKE UP EVERY DAY AND COME AND DEAL WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE VERY WORST PARTS OF THEIR LIVES. TO DO IT WITH THE COMPASSION THAT WE ARE, I AM SO PROUD OF OUR TEAM. ABLE TO SHARE AND SHOW VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. I AM SO PROUD TO BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY [00:05:03] AND ESPECIALLY THANK YOU CC PD FOR THE WORK AND THE ADVOCATES AS WE SEE THEM BRINGING PEOPLE EVERYDAY CALLING ON SPECIAL MATTERS. IT IS A JOY, SO THINK YOU. >> I AM LAME JENNIFER RADCLIFFE WITH A PURPLE DOOR. SUPERVISOR FOR THE NONRESIDENTIAL PROGRAM. AGAIN THANK YOU FOR INVITING US AND BEING PART OF THIS. WE COULD NOT DO OUR WORK WITHOUT THEM. BUT WE ARE HERE TO HELP THE COMMUNITY AND 12 COUNTIES. KRISTIN IS HERE, THE ADVOCATE FROM CORPUS SO SHE IS HERE TO HELP PEOPLE GO FROM WHERE THEY ARE TO WHERE THEY WANT TO BE. WHETHER IT IS SHELTER OR STAYING HOME AND HAVING HER HELP YOU TO THAT PROCESS. THANK YOU FOR RECOMMENDING THIS AND FOR BRINGING THIS ATTENTION TO THE COUNTY. IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO BY ALL MEANS. ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAK OR ANYBODY ELSE? WE HAVE A RESOLUTION FOR YOU SOMEWHERE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS. DO YOU HAVE IT? SOMEBODY HAD THEM AND THEY GOT LEFT BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO A PHOTO, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT ORGANIZATION AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO, WE APPRECIATE THE COUNTY OFFICE FOR THE WORK THEY DO AS WELL. SO, YES. >> FRANCIS, IS THAT IT? THEY WENT OUTSIDE. THEY NEED SIGNATURES. THE THIRD ONE YOU SIGNED. THE OTHER TWO. YES. LOOKS LIKE THIS HAS BEEN A MORNING FOR EVERYBODY. WEIGHT, SO YOU CAN TAKE IT OUT TO THEM. [1. In recognition of the inaugural London Athletics Hall of Fame Inductees. ] >> MOVING ON ITEM F. IN RECOGNITION OF THE INAUGURAL LONDON ATHLETICS HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES PRECINCT 4 COMMISSIONER CHESNEY YOU PUT THIS ON. >> YES I WANT TO READ THAT, RESOLUTION RECOGNITION OF THE INAUGURAL LONDON ATHLETICS HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES WHEREAS THE INAUGURAL LONDON ATHLETICS HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES CONSIST OF NAME ] TRACK AND FIELD FOOTBALL TENNIS 2021 FOOTBALL 2021 BASEBALL, VOLLEYBALL. DR. DAVID FREEMAN LONDON ISD SUPERINTENDENT 2014 OR 2019 AND [00:10:13] ROBERT MARINA LONGTIME ATHLETIC DIRECTOR OF LONDON ISD. THEREFORE BE RESOLVED BY COMMISSIONERS COURT OF NUECES COUNTY HEREBY RECOGNIZE THE COMPASS MINTS OF THE INAUGURAL LONDON ATHLETICS HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES AND CONGRATULATES THEM ON THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS. DULY ADOPTED BY THE VOTE OF COMMISSIONERS COURT OF NUECES COUNTY ON OCTOBER 16, 2024 AND I WOULD MOVE TO PASS THIS. >> OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION [2. In recognition of the 2024 W.B. Ray High School Athletic Hall of Fame Inductees. ] PASSES. MOVING ON ITEM NUMBER TWO RECOGNITION OF THE 2024 HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETICS HALL OF FAME AND EMILY IS GOING TO READ THAT ONE. >> WHEREAS MR. DAVID HASTINGS CLASS OF 1976 WILL BE RECOGNIZED FOR HIS SUCCESSFUL ROLE ON THE RAY HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL TEAM, PLACEKICKER FOR THE TEXANS THROUGHOUT HIS HIGH SCHOOL CAREER AND CONTRIBUTED TO THE 1975 UNDEFEATED DISTRICT CHAMPIONSHIP WITH A GAME-WINNING FIELD GOAL. AFTER HIGH SCHOOL DAVID GRADUATED FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS IN AUSTIN WITH ABS IN EDUCATION. NAME ] CLASS OF 1997 WILL BE RECOGNIZED FOR HER AMAZING CAREER ON THE TEXANS TENNIS TEAM. RESPONSIBLE FOR THE 1995 AND 1996 DISTRICT CHAMPIONSHIP FOR THE TEXANS. SHE COMPETED IN THE UNITED STATES TENNIS ASSOCIATION TOURNAMENT WHERE SHE RANKED IN THE TOP 15 IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AS A SUPER CHAMPION PLAYER. DUE TO HER AMAZING CAREER IN TENNIS SHE IS A MANAGER FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT OF THE UT AS A TEXAS WORKING WITH COMMUNITY TENNIS ASSOCIATIONS. WHEREAS OUTSTANDING TENNIS CAREER. MR. WHITE COMPETED IN THE STATE SEMIFINALS HIS JUNIOR YEAR AND LATER THE 1958 STATE CHAMPION HIS SENIOR YEAR. WITH A FULL SCHOLARSHIP TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN HE WAS AN ALL-AMERICAN AND CAPTAIN AS WELL AS SOUTHWESTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPION. AFTER GRADUATION A REGULAR ON THE PROFESSIONAL TENNIS CIRCUIT BECOMING A NATIONALLY RANKED TENNIS PLAYER. HE ACHIEVED HIS DREAM OF PLAYING IN THE U.S. OPEN TENNIS CHAMPIONSHIP. THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY COMMISSIONERS COURT OF THE NUECES COUNTY HEREBY RECOGNIZES THE COMPASS MINTS OF THE 2024 WB RAY HIGH SCHOOL INDUCTEES AND CONGRATULATES THEM ON THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS. ADOPTED BY VOTE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF NUECES COUNTY ON THE 16TH DAY OF OCTOBER, 2024. >> THANK YOU EMILY. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, MOTION PASSES [G. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.] AND CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH OF THOSE GROUPS. MOVING ON PUBLIC COMMENT. I DO NOT SEE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP AND YOU WISH TO DO [2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.] SO, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO SO. BEING KNOWN I WILL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ANY COMMISSIONER WITH ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THEY WISH TO PULL FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> W. >> JUDGE I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO PASS ALL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, BUT ITEM W . >> MOTION AND SECOND PASS ALL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS EXCEPT W. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? SORRY. >> A QUESTION ON K. >> WOULD YOU CHANGE YOUR MOTION? >> THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED ? THE MOTION PASSES [K. Approve the bond for the Interim County Auditor, Lisa Davis. ] ITEM K COMES UP FIRST. >> HAVE WE GOT ANY APPLICATIONS OR HAVE WE ANNOUNCED THE JOB? >> THE JOB WAS ALREADY POSTED. I WAS OFFERED THE POSITION OF INTERIM COUNTY AUDITOR AND I ACCEPTED. >> CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU. I WILL FINISH OUT THE REMAINDER OF BILL'S TERM AND THEN IT WILL BE ELIGIBLE TO BE APPOINTED AS COUNTY AUDITOR SHOULD THE BOARD OF JUDGES SO CHOOSE. >> WONDERING IF THERE WERE OTHER APPLICANTS. >> THEY INTERVIEWED AND ACCEPTED THE BOARD OF JUDGES. >> I UNDERSTAND. >> THERE WERE SOME OTHER APPLICANTS AND THEY INTERVIEWED ONE OTHER PERSON, ONE PERSON WITHDREW AFTER THEY TURNED IN THE LOCATION. >> CONGRATULATIONS. >> I MEANT TO BRING IT UP. WE [00:15:03] ALL WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON THE INTERIM POSITION AND BEING APPOINTED. I MEANT TO PULL THAT MYSELF, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FOR DOING THAT. WE ARE EXCITED AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND HOPE THINGS MOVE RIGHT ALONG AND YOU WILL WORK WITH OUR OFFICES JUST AS IN THE PAST. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ACCEPTING THE POSITION. >> THANK YOU, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EVERYBODY. >> THIS IS SIX MONTHS INTERIM? >> FINISHING OUT THE UNEXPIRED TERM. DO YOU KNOW WHEN IT COMES UP? >> THE TERM IS THROUGH APRIL 15. >> MOVE PASSAGE? >> YES. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. THE MOTION PASSES. TWO PEOPLE ONLINE WITH YOUR HAND UP, IS THAT ON THIS ITEM? PROBABLY PUBLIC COMMENT. WE [W. Accept for record purposes, the executed lease agreements for FY 2024-2025 at the Nueces County Airport: 1. Hangar M-4 - Mark Thomas 2. Hangar M-5 - Jim Albert 3. Hangar T-1 - Donald Bayne Horne 4. Hangar T-2 - Jay Hale 5. Hangar T-3 - Mark Thomas 6. Hangar T-4 - Jerry Hunsaker 7. Hangar T-5 - Robert Whitlock 8. Hangar T-6 - Jerry W. Lunceford 9. Hangar T-7 - David Rasmussen 10. Hangar T-8 - Andrew Kirkpatrick 11. Hangar T-9 - Wayne Hunter 12. Hangar T-10 - Donald Bayne Horne 13. Hangar T-12 - Leo Mendez 14. Hangar T-13 - Mark Rock 15. Hangar T-14 - Mark Harrison 16. Hangar T-15 Thomas Perrigue 17. Hangar T-16 - T-17 - Guillermo A. Pliego 18. Hangar T-18 - Tim Bowen 19. Hangar T-19 - Josh Hopkins 20. Hangar T-20 - John Reed 21. Scoggins Hangar - a. John W. Cox b. Jim Lankford c. John Fullerton d. Kent Peckenpaugh] HAVE PASSED THAT POSITION. MOVING ON ITEM W. >> I WANTED TO CLARIFICATION. I THINK I HAVE REPEATEDLY ASKED. THE FINGERS AND WE ALWAYS PUT THE AMOUNTS AND WE HAVE ALL OF THEM HERE, BUT THERE'S NO AMOUNT. SO WE HAVE POSTED THAT SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY. WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING AND HOW MUCH SO, I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING . >> IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP? ON ANY OF THESE? I DON'T SEE IT. >> THE ANGER LEASE AGREEMENTS , BUT IT'S NOT ITEMIZED TO SHOW THE INDIVIDUAL AMOUNTS. >> WE HAVE ASKED. I KNOW YOU HAVE ASKED BEFORE. >> DO YOU WANT TO TABLE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING OR ASK THEM TO BRING IT BACK? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? MOVING ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. I BELIEVE. [15. Discuss and consider distributing the available unallocated ARPA Pct 2 balance of $59,495.52 and un-allocating $195,437.94 from Belk Lane Drainage Improvements Pct 2 project for a total of $254,933.46 to Calderon Outreach Medical Wellness Center and Grants Works Consulting, and all related matters. 1. $227,433.46 - Public Health-Negative Economic Impact: Public Sector Staff Positions (Personnel for the Calderon Outreach Medical Wellness Center, Director and Community Wellness Program Coordinator) 2. $27,500.00 - Administrative Expenses: Grantworks Consulting] >> I WANT TO TABLE 3 A 15. THERE ARE A COUPLE MORE ON HERE, NOVEMBER 2, THANK YOU. 13, 15 WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? >> TABLE INTO THE NEXT MEETING NOVEMBER 13. 13TH, ITEM UNTIL THEY NOVEMBER 13 MEETING. >> ITEM 15. >> THAT'S WHAT I SAID. I THOUGHT YOU JUST SAID NO, 13. >> YES, OKAY ITEM 15. I WILL ASK, HAVE ANOTHER TABLE. >> DID WE VOTE ON THAT? NOVEMBER 13 IS THE NEXT MEETING. WANTS TO TABLE ITEM 15 UNTIL NOVEMBER 13. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY POST, SAME SIGN. I WOULD [16. Discuss and consider unallocating ARPA funds from London Drainage Project in an amount to be determined by the final tabulation of monies needed based on the bid being proposed for the project. Once unallocated to discuss and consider re-allocating to another Precinct 4 properly vetted and qualified ARPA project. ] ALSO ASK YOU COMMISSIONER CHESNEY TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER 16, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A COUPLE THINGS MISSING WE SHOULD HAVE AN ACCURATE AMOUNT AND PROJECT TO ALLOCATE TO. >> I ACCEPT THE MOTION TO TABLE AND SECOND UNTIL NOVEMBER 13. THAT IS NUMBER 16. >> MOTION AND SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE . IT DID NOT HAVE THE STUFF. THERE WAS ANOTHER . >> I WANTED TO TABLE ONE OTHER, I DON'T HAVE BACKUP ON ITEM NUMBER SIX WHICH IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER POLICY PLACED ON THE POLICY WITHOUT BACKUP PROVIDED IN HERE AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THAT ITEM UNTIL NOVEMBER 13. >> SECOND THAT MOTION. ITEM NUMBER SIX ON THE GAME ROOM POLICY. >> IT WAS GOING TO BE A SIMPLE MOTION. STILL NEED BACKUP? >> EVERYTHING HAS TO. >> MY APOLOGIES. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. I HAD TWO FROM THE AUDITOR. >> FOR A FORMALITY, CAN WE REOPEN PUBLIC COMMENT? JUST SAYING CAN WE LET THEM HAVE [00:20:03] PUBLIC COMMENT? YOU CAN TABLE IT UNTIL NOVEMBER, BUT THEY ARE WAITING FOR THE ITEM SO CAN WE GO BACK? >> ANY OTHER ITEMS WE'RE GOING TO TABLE? [1. Receive the Monthly Financial Report for Fiscal Year 2023-2024 for the eleven months ending August 31, 2024.] [2. Authorize the renewal of Texas DIR contract DR-TSO-4227 with Vertosoft for OpenGov Software for the amount of $56,064.45 from the Audior's Office (12500) budgeted funds.] >> I HAVE MORE I NEED TO TABLE. LET'S FINISH TABLING AND WE WILL OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT. ITEM D 1 AND 2. THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE HAS ASKED ME TO TABLE UNTIL NOVEMBER 13 . D 1 THEY WANT TO CLARIFY THINGS ON THE REPORT AND GET A FRESH REPORT. I WOULD MAKE MOTION TO TABLE. MOTION AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AND THEN D 2 I BELIEVE THIS STATES THREE-YEAR CONTRACT TO GO BACK TO CHANGE THIS TO ONE YEAR , I UNDERSTAND THEY WANT TO BRING IT BACK NOVEMBER 13. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN DO THEM BOTH TOGETHER. MAKE THE MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY MADE THAT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OTHER TABLE ITEMS? >> JUDGE, NUMBER NINE. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF WE HAVE TO DO THAT TODAY. >> I DID NOT PLAN, I WANTED TO DISCUSS WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD BE AND SHOW THE NAMES BUT I WAS GOING TO BRING IT BACK BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS SOME THINGS AND LOOK AT IT. >> SURE. >> WE ARE NOT GOING TO VOTE ON THAT IF ANYONE IS HERE WAITING. WE CAN DO IT ON NOVEMBER 13, NOVEMBER 29, REQUIRED BECAUSE OF THE SIZE WE HAVE DEVOTE TWO MEETINGS AFTERWARD AND WE ARE OKAY DOING IT ON THE 13TH. >> THAT IN A PROCESS WHERE WE HAVE TO ALLOCATE ALL OF THEM. OKAY. >> I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY TO DO THAT BUT WE CAN DISCUSS THE PROCESS MOVING FORWARD. >> ANOTHER WONDERFUL LEGISLATIVE CHANGE. >> SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER TABLE ITEMS WE WANT TO DO? BEING NONE, IF YOU ARE HERE AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO RESUBMIT OR SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE YOUR ITEM GOT TABLED YOU ARE WELCOME TO SPEAK THREE MINUTES. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND I WILL KEEP A LIST AND GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, WE CANNOT RESPOND. >> GOOD MORNING HON. JUDGE SCOTT. ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU. COMMISSIONERS, FOR THOSE RUNNING FOR OFFICE, THEY ALWAYS SAY WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK AND I WISH YOU CONTINUE TO WORK HARD ON YOUR CAMPAIGNS SO YOU COME BACK AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY. ROLANDO GARZA , HIGHWAY VILLAGE. I KNOW THE GAME ROOM ISSUE HAS BEEN, IT'S BECOME A LITTLE CONTROVERSIAL AND CONVOLUTED WITH SOME OF THE REGULATIONS , WHEN YOU DID YOUR POLICY HERE, REGULATING GAME ROOMS. I TALKED TO SOME OF MY FRIENDS, FORMER RETIRED TROOPERS AND INVESTIGATORS FOR DPS. A LOT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT IN BEAR COUNTY AND THEY DO SECURITY FOR GAME ROOMS IN SAN ANTONIO. SO I ASKED FOR A COMPARISON WITH WHAT'S GOING ON HERE COMPARED TO SAN ANTONIO AND THERE'S A LOT OF LOGISTICAL THINGS THAT THEY WORK ON IN SAN ANTONIO. I KNOW IN MY YEARS OF ADVOCACY, 34 YEARS OF ADVOCACY NORMALLY WE PULL A TEMPLATE FROM OTHER CITIES WERE THINGS ARE WORKING. MAYBE TO BUILD AN ARENA FOR THE BUILD A FACILITY OR IMPLEMENT POLICY OR A LAW OR ORDINANCE. WE TOOK OTHER POLICIES FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES SUCH AS BEAR COUNTY AND THE GAME ROOM AND I KNOW YOU ARE PRETTY SMART CATS UP THERE. I TALKED TO MY FRIENDS IN THE SEWER DOING SECURITY, RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT. I SAID YOU HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS? HE SAID FOR THE MOST PART THEY RUN PRETTY SMOOTH. I GIVE THEM CREDIT BECAUSE THESE GUYS SERVE 35 OR 40 YEARS AT LAW ENFORCEMENT STATE AND LOCAL LEVEL. I SAID WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? WHY DO HAVE SOME PROBLEMS IN CORPUS CHRISTI THAT HE SAID IT'S THE WAY THEY DESIGNED THE POLICIES REGULATING GAME ROOMS AND IT DOES NOT MEAN WHEN YOU GO BACK AND DISCUSS AND ALTER OR MODIFY THE POLICY, IT IS NOT MEAN LAW ENFORCEMENT DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO IN AND CONTINUE TO ENFORCE THE LAW AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE RUN RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING IN SAN [00:25:01] ANTONIO. WE ALLOW LAW ENFORCEMENT ACCESS TO DO THEIR JOBS LIKE IN THESE GAME ROOMS, BUT WE DON'T PUT PARAMETERS THAT WILL BLOCK AND SHUTDOWN LOCAL BUSINESSES WHO HAVE INVESTED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. IT'S UP TO THEM BECAUSE THE BUCK STOPS WITH THE OWNERS, THAT THEY RUN LEGALLY , EFFICIENTLY AND PROPERLY ACCORDING TO REGULATIONS. IF THEY DON'T THEN LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS THE RIGHT TO STEP IN AND DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO. DO YOU AGREE? I DON'T THINK THE GAME OWNERS ARE SAYING THAT THEY DON'T WANT LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THERE, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO MAKE SURE THEY ARE FOLLOWING GUIDELINES AND THEY PLAY BY THE RULES. IN SAN ANTONIO IT WORKS FINE. THANK YOU. LET ME FINISH WITH THIS, THEY HAVE OVER 200 GAME ROOMS OPERATING IN SAN ANTONIO AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE. LOOKING AT THE 13TH, I WILL SEE YOU ON THE 13TH. GOD BLESS YOU AND HAVE A GOOD WEEK. >> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE GAME ROOMS. >> NAME AND ADDRESS. >> AGREE WITH MR. ROLANDO GARZA. WE ARE NOT ASKING THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT NOT GO REGULATE THE DEAL, OUR DEAL IS THE WAY THE PERMITS ARE ISSUED. WHY IS THERE REDUNDANCY WHEN YOU HAVE CITY CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY AND YOU NEED ANOTHER ONE FROM THE COUNTY. YOU KNOW, THEY ARE TOO STRICT, THE COUNTY IS TOO STRICT. THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE A LEGAL GAME ROOMS BECAUSE THEY CANNOT GET A GAME ROOM PERMIT UNTIL THEY DECIDE TO GO ON TO APPLY. AND I ASK THAT YOU REVISIT AND ESTABLISH SOME TYPE OF LEGAL WAY OF GETTING THE OWNERS A PERMIT TO OPERATE. THEY ARE NOT ILLEGAL, THE GAME ROOMS ARE NOT ILLEGAL. GAMBLING IS, BUT NOT A GAMER LIKE MR. ROLANDO SAID. IF LAW ENFORCEMENT THINK THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG, GO AFTER THEM, NOBODY IS TELLING YOU NOT TO GET LAW ENFORCEMENT INVOLVED, WE NEED THAT, BUT THE WAY THAT THE PROCEDURES YOU IMPLEMENT ON A PERMIT TO A GAME ROOM OWNER IS RIDICULOUS. 1500 LINEAR FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL AREA. THAT IS FIVE TIMES MORE THAN WHEN YOU SELL LIQUOR FROM A BAR OR FROM A STRIP JOINT. THERE IS NO WAY THAT SOME GAME ROOM OWNER CAN OPERATE WITH THOSE STRINGENT RULES. LIKE MR. ROLANDO KARZAI SAYS, WHY IS IT YOU WILL NEED TO REVISIT, GET A CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD , LIKE THE CITY HAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION. YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEM TO GET A PERMIT. WHY CAN'T WE ESTABLISH, WHY CAN'T THE COUNTY ESTABLISH SOMETHING LIKE THAT? TO GIVE US A CHANCE, FOR OWNERS TO OPERATE. AGAIN AND, I'M NOT SURE, BUT I HAVE HEARD POTENTIAL LAWSUITS GOING AFTER THE COUNTY FOR DOING THOSE STRINGENT RULES TO THE GAME ROOM OWNERS. YOU ARE TARGETING THE GAME ROOMS . TARGETING IS ILLEGAL AS YOU ALL KNOW. WE CANNOT DO THAT SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU WILL REVISIT THIS ORDINANCE AND MAKE IT A LOT SIMPLER TO GET A PERMIT TO THE GAME ROOM OWNERS SO THEY WON'T HAVE TO OPERATE ILLEGALLY. THANK YOU. >> CAN YOU UNMUTE YOUR MICROPHONE , MR. YOU. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT. [00:30:08] ADDRESS ] AGENDA ITEM 3A 11 PERMIT APPLICATION. JUST WANTED TO INDICATE A FEW COMMENTS. I REVIEWED IT AND THE PERMIT APPLICATION ITSELF DOES NOT CONTAIN A SET OF SO THEREFORE, THERE'S NO WAY THAT I CAN ASSESS THAT IT HAS ANY KIND OF REASONABLE DRAINAGE ANALYSIS. OR ANY KIND OF STRUCTURAL MEASURES THAT WOULD ADDRESS THE CONTROL OF STORM WATER DRAINAGE TO TO THE CONSTRUCTION THAT IT POSES. DOES IT INDICATE ANY SAFE , SAFETY MEASURES TO BE TAKEN TO PREVENT IMPACTING BY FLOOD, THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES WHEN THE DUNES ARE IMPACTED OR REMOVED. DOES NOT INDICATE THE WAY THAT THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE MEDICATION WILL PREVENT FLOODING OVER THE LOCKS OR THE WETLANDS OR THE PONDS ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION. IT DOES NOT INDICATE PREVENTION OR CONTROL OF WINDBORNE TRANSPORTATION OF SAND DUE TO THE CONSTRUCTION OR ANY KIND OF MITIGATION MEASURES. IT IS NOT INDICATE ANY KIND OF PREVENTION OR CONTROL OF WATERBORNE EROSION OR SCOUR OF THE DUNES SAND. AND THOSE RESULTING IMPACTS TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, THE ADJACENT LOTS. IT IS NOT INDICATE HOW IT WILL PREVENT CONTROL OF WATERBORNE SANITATION OF SAND DUE TO THE REMOVAL OF THE DUNES FOR MITIGATION OF THE DUNES. ONE OTHER ITEM IT DOES NOT INDICATE BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE SUFFICIENT INFORMATION. NO PLANS OR DESIGN INDICATIONS OF WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. IT DOES NOT SHOW HOW THE DOING PERMIT OR MITIGATION IS GOING TO ENSURE THAT THE GROUND BEARING SOIL CAPACITY OF THE ADJACENT LOTS ARE NOT DIMINISHED OR EMASCULATED OR UNDERMINED DUE TO THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OR REMOVAL OF THESE MASSIVE 20 FOOT DUNES ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. AND OF COURSE THAT REMOVAL WOULD INDICATE SOME SORT OF EXCAVATION OR FURTHER MOVING OPERATIONS THAT CREATE TREMENDOUS VIBRATION , THAT WOULD RUN THE POSSIBILITY OF IMPACTING FOUNDATIONS AND STRUCTURES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION. FOR THESE REASONS I LAID OUT. >> YOU HAVE RUN OUT OF TIME. >> THE DOING PERMIT SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED. THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT? OH, I'M SORRY. YOUR HAND WAS UP EARLY THEN IT WENT DOWN, YOU CAN GO. YES. >> YES, YOUR HONOR, THANK YOU. THERE IS ONE POINT, SORRY 109 MUSTANG ISLAND ESTATES, CORPUS CHRISTI , TEXAS AND I AM CLEAR PROMOTE WAS MENTIONED IN THE LAST MEETING IS THAT THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE ROAD RIGHT NOW IS NOT THERE SINCE THE 1970S. I WAS ABLE TO CONFIRM THIS WITH JEFFREY EDMONDS, DIR. OF ENGINEERING. WHEN ACQUIRED IN THE 1970S IT HAD A ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WAS 900 FEET SOUTH OF THE CURRENT PROPOSED LOCATION. IN 1920 OR 2021 THERE WAS A PROPOSAL TO SHIFT THE ALIGNMENT AS THE VERBIAGE HAS BEEN USED. THE VERBIAGE SHIFT THAT THE ALIGNMENT IMPLIES IS MINOR TWEAKING. THIS IS NOT MINOR, THIS IS A MOVEMENT OF THE ROAD NORTH, 900 FEET. MOVING IT FROM A LOCATION WHERE THE DUNES THAT WOULD'VE BEEN DISTURBED WERE 6 TO 9 FEET , NOW A LOCATION WHERE THEY ARE 20 FEET. SO IT'S NOT JUST A SHIFT IN ALIGNMENT AS A MISNOMER IN MY VIEW , MAYBE IT'S A TERM OF INDUSTRY. BUT TO ME, THIS IS NOT A SHIFT, THIS IS MOVEMENT OF THE ROAD. SO, FINE. NOBODY IS OPPOSING THE BUILDING OF THE [00:35:03] ACCESS ROAD. WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND WHEN ADDRESSED WE WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO GET EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT'S FINE. WHY WOULD YOU SHIFT TO A PLACE WHERE IT'S HARDER TO REMEDIATE, CAN CAUSE MORE DESTRUCTION TO THE PUBLIC BY REMOVING THESE 20 FOOT BARRIERS? MOTHER NATURE HAS INDICATED THE BEST LOCATION IS WHERE IT WAS OR WHERE IT HAS BEEN SINCE THE 70S , WHICH IS, WE HAD 50 YEARS TO SHOW THE LOCATION IT WAS ORIGINALLY AT, THE ACCESS EASEMENT WAS A BETTER LOCATION BECAUSE OF THE SIGNS OF THE DUNES. HERE WE HAVE TO DO MORE DISRUPTION. THERE IS NO PROVISION IN HERE THAT ADDRESSES WHEN YOU ELEVATE A ROAD, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE PLANNING TO PUT THE ROAD UP HIGHER 12 FEET. NOW NOT ONLY ARE YOU REMOVING THE BUFFER OF THE 20 FOOT DUNES AND TRYING TO REBUILD, YOU ARE REMOVING, CREATING A DRAINAGE PROBLEM INTO THE , THE NORTH AND SOUTH BOUND BOUNDARIES, NOT JUST FROM THE EAST WHERE THE WAVES WERE COMING. SO NOW EVERY TIME IT RAINS WE HAVE A POOLING OF WATER COMING UP THE ROAD INTO THE LOTS. THERE IS NOTHING IN THE DOING PERMIT THAT ADDRESSES HOW THEY ARE GOING TO MOVE THAT. IF YOU DON'T ADDRESS THE SPECIFICS OF HOW YOU'RE GOING TO REMEDIATE THOSE PROBLEMS, AND THERE'S NO WAY TO ENFORCE IT BECAUSE HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SAY THAT IT REQUIRES SOMEBODY TO SUE BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE DONE THIS CONSTRUCTION, FLOODING THE LOTS FROM MY LOTS GET FLOODED. >> YOUR TIME HAS RUN OUT, SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOUR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK OR ONLINE THAT I MISSED EARLIER? IF NOT WE WILL MOVE FORWARD ON [1. Discuss and consider authorizing approval of Escrow Amendment Conditions Letter Agreement between Nueces County Hospital District and CHRISTUS Spohn Health System, including related amendments to the Membership and Lease Agreements between the parties and all related matters.] OUR AGENDA. ON REGULAR AGENDA A ONE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING APPROVAL OF ESCROW AMENDMENT CONDITIONS LETTER AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE NUECES COUNTY COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND HEALTH SYSTEM. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, IT IS A BEAUTIFUL DAY OUT THERE. THE FRONT FELT GOOD, I HOPE IT'S A SIGNAL OF BETTER WEATHER TO COME. COMMISSIONERS, HOSPITAL DISTRICT IS BRINGING AN AMENDMENT TODAY TO AGREEMENTS WITH SPOT. THE COUNTY IS A SIGNATORY TO THE AGREEMENTS WE HAVE WITH THEM. WE DON'T AMEND OFTEN BUT WE DO HAVE ONE HERE TODAY. WITH ME I ALSO HAVE ADAM ROBISON OUTSIDE COUNCIL FROM KING AND SPALDING AND HE IS HERE TO ANSWER LEGAL QUESTIONS. SO COMMISSIONERS, ESSENTIALLY THIS ESCROW AMENDMENT SETS FOUR CONDITIONS FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO DISTRIBUTE THE REMAINING PART OF THE ESCROW FUNDS. YOU MAY RECALL OR YOU MAY NOT AS YOU ARE NOT HERE TO JUDGE, BUT BACK IN 2015 WHEN THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AGREED TO A SERIES OF THINGS AMONG THEM WAS MOVING THE RESIDENCY PROGRAMS FROM MEMORIAL TO SHORELINE. SEVERAL OTHER THINGS WERE INCLUDED IN THE DEMOLITION OF MEMORIAL. TO ENSURE THOSE THINGS OCCURRED, THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT REQUIRED SPOHN TO PUT MONEY IN ESCROW AND EACH TIME THEY CHECKED OFF ONE OF THOSE THINGS ON THE LIST. THEY WERE APPROVED FOR DISBURSEMENT FROM THE ESCROW ACCOUNT. SO THE ESCROW ACCOUNT HAS WORKED TO ASSURE THAT THE THINGS WE AGREED TO ARE HAPPENING. DOWN TO THE LAST ITEM AND THE LAST ITEM HAD TO DO WITH IN PART DEMOLITION OF MEMORIAL AND ALSO THE IMPOSITION OF A GREEN SPACE ON THE MEMORIAL SITE. AND SO, IN TERMS OF WORKING TOWARD THE LAST CONDITION AND AUTHORIZING ESCROW, THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT APPROACHED SPOHN ABOUT SOME CONDITIONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IN ADDITION TO THE AGREEMENT THAT ADDRESSED HOW THE MONEY WOULD BE DISPERSED. SO THE FOUR THINGS ACTUALLY WE APPROACHED WITH MANY THINGS, BUT THE FOUR THINGS WE SETTLED ON ARE ADDRESSED IN THE LETTER IN YOUR PACKET AND THEY ARE ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR STARTING ON THE FIRST PAGE AND ENDING ON THE SECOND. IN SHORT, THESE FOUR ITEMS, THE FIRST ALLOWS THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO HAVE ITS PROPERTIES BACK WHILE THE LEASE IS GOING ON. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THE HOSPITAL [00:40:04] DISTRICT, UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, COULD ASK FOR PROPERTY BACK AT ANY TIME. THERE ARE A FEW RESTRICTIONS THAT SPOHN IMPOSED, THEY WOULD LIKE FOR THE PROPERTY TO NOT BE USED FOR HEALTHCARE, BUT THEY CAN BE USED FOR OTHER THINGS FOR AT LEAST THE TERM OF THE LEASE. ANYWAY, THE POINT OF THIS ONE, WITHOUT GETTING TOO FAR OFF THE TRAIL IS FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK FOR PROPERTIES BACK, THESE WOULD BE THE PROPERTIES THAT DO NOT HAVE A CLINIC ON THEM. MEMORIAL , THE PARKING LOTS AROUND THERE, PROPERTIES PICKED UP TO TAX DEEDS AROUND TOWN SO WE WOULD BASICALLY TAKE THOSE BACK. ITEMS TWO AND THREE HAVE TO DO WITH SPOHN HELPING US TO IDENTIFY PEOPLE, MOSTLY CONSULTANTS THAT COULD HELP US WORK ON HEALTH NEEDS ANALYSIS OF WHAT'S NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY. AND NUMBER THREE WOULD BE FOR THEM TO IDENTIFY TO US SOME FACILITIES OR COMPANIES WE MIGHT APPROACH ABOUT THE FACILITY PLAN FOR THE MEMORIAL CAMPUS. SO, MOVING ON NUMBER FOUR AND PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANT NUMBER FOUR AND THIS CAME INTO THE SCENE WHEN WE WERE STILL NEGOTIATING WITH SPOHN ABOUT AMENDMENTS. NUMBER FOUR REQUIRES SPOHN TO USE GOOD FAITH AND BEST EFFORTS TO HELP THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR THE RESIDENCY PROGRAMS. SO, THE WORDS OF GOOD FAITH AND BEST EFFORTS HAVE LEGAL CONNOTATION. SO WE BELIEVE THOSE ARE GOOD STRONG WORDS AND SPOHN HAS AGREED TO WORK WITH US ON FINDING FUNDING FOR THOSE PROGRAMS. YOUR APPROVAL TODAY WOULD APPROVE THESE FOUR CONDITIONS WE HAVE TO DISPERSE THE ESCROW THEREBY WHEN YOU APPROVE THESE IT WILL SET IN MOTION THREE OR FOUR OTHER AMENDMENTS MORE DETAILED AND TECHNICAL THAN THE PURPOSE IS TO DISCUSS HERE, BUT THAT WOULD BE TO MAINLY ADDRESS THE FACT THAT SPOHN WOULD WITH ENGLISH PROPERTY TO US WHEN WE ASK FOR THEM. >> I HAVE LEGAL QUESTIONS ON THIS. I LIKE TO TAKE TWO EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> OH, EXECUTIVE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE HAS THAT YOU WANT TO BRING NOW? ARE THEY AWARE OF THIS AND HOW THEY AGREE TO THIS RIGHT NOW? >> YES MA'AM THEY HAVE. AS SOON AS WE GET THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS WE WILL GET THE SIGNATURES AND STUFF BUT THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT YES. >> I WILL PULL THIS INTO EXECUTIVE AND WE WILL BRING IT BACK AFTERWARD FOR COMMISSIONER CHESNEY'S QUESTIONS. >> YOU NEED OUR COUNCIL IN THAT? >> I DON'T THINK HE CAN BE IN THERE. >> WE ARE GOOD. >> QUESTION. ON THIS ISSUE SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT WHERE MONIES CAN BE DISTRIBUTED RIGHT? TELLING YOU WHERE TO PUT THE MONEY ONLY TO THE PROPERTIES THEY HAVE , ASKING IF WE CAN RECOVER THOSE PROPERTIES BACK BUT CANNOT USE IT FOR OTHER MEDICAL FACILITIES THAT WOULD COMPETE AGAINST ? >> FIRST OF ALL ON THE MONEY QUESTION, THE ONLY MONIES IN QUESTION ARE DISBURSEMENT OF THE FINAL ESCROW PAYMENT AND SO, THESE CONDITIONS WE HAVE PUT OUT BEFORE THAT. IF THE CONDITIONS ARE SATISFIED AND THE COURT DEGREES WE WILL DO THE DISBURSEMENT. SO AS FAR AS SERVICES FOR THE PROPERTY. FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT THE MEMORIAL PROPERTY AS A COVENANT ON IT THAT WAS INSTILLED BY THE BAPTIST FOUNDATION THAT SAYS IT CAN ONLY USE , ORIGINALLY FOR HOSPITAL PURPOSES THEN WE AMENDED TO BE FOR HEALTHCARE. SO THE RESTRICTIONS THAT SPOHN WANTS TO PUT ON THE PROPERTY WOULD LIMIT THE KINDS OF FACILITIES THAT ARE PUT ON SO THEY WOULD BE THINGS THAT WOULD NOT COMPETE WITH THEM. SO THERE WOULD NOT BE CLINIC OR AMATORY SURGERY CENTER. THERE WERE NOT BE ANOTHER HOSPITAL. BUT, THERE ARE THINGS ON THERE, IT CAN BE AN LIKE THERE IS WITH AMISTAD [00:45:03] AND THERE CAN BE OTHER THINGS WHICH ARE EMBEDDED IN THE AGREEMENT ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN BE USED FOR. THE LIMITATIONS WOULD ONLY BE FOR THE LIFE OF THE REMAINING YEARS IN THE LEASE AND THE LEASE IN THE BACKGROUND WITH SPOHN WHICH GOES UNTIL 2036. SO IT HAS SOME LIMITATIONS. IT IS NOT UNDULY RESTRICTIVE, BUT IT'S NOT UNUSUAL THEY ASK FOR THEM. >> RIGHT NOW THEY ARE ASKING FOR THE BALANCE OF THE ESCROW? >> YES. THEY ARE ENTITLED TO PAYMENT OF THE LAST ESCROW PAYMENT, CONDITION TO BOND THESE FOUR THINGS IN THE LETTER. >> TO KNOW HOW MUCH? >> AROUND 3 MILLION. >> THAT'S THEIR MONEY THEY PUT IN ESCROW. YOU HAVE A LEGAL QUESTION? I DON'T MIND MOVING FORWARD. >> I DID NOT MIND MOVING FORWARD, BUT HE HAS A LEGAL QUESTION SO WE WILL TAKEN INTO EXECUTIVE. >> OKAY. [11. Discuss and consider approval of the large-scale request and exemption request for dune protection permit for construction of a new beach access road seaward of the 350’ dune protection line (DPP-20231209). ] >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO BRING UP ITEM 3 3A 11 AND 12, IF WE COULD. I THINK 11 IS THE ONE YOU ARE ASKING FOR? DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL LARGE-SCALE REQUEST AN EXEMPTION REQUEST PROTECTION PERMIT CONSTRUCTION OF BEACH ACCESS ROAD OF THE 350 FOOT DUNE PROTECTION LINE. I THINK THE CITY IS HERE, THAT'S WHY. WE DON'T WANT TO KEEP THEM SITTING HERE WAITING. SO YES ITEM 3 SO YES ITEM 3A 11. >> GOOD MORNING THIS ITEM IS REQUEST FOR DUNE PROTECTION PERMIT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF NEW BEACH ACCESS OF THE DUNE PROTECTION LINE. THIS ITEM WAS PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED OCTOBER 2 AND WAS TABLED TO MEET WITH RESIDENTS IN THE CITY HAS MADE SEVERAL EFFORTS TO MEET THE RESIDENTS WITH NO LUCK. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'M HERE TO ANSWER. >> IF YOU COULD ADDRESS AND CHRISTINE ARE YOU HERE? IF YOU CAN ADDRESS, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ADMINISTERED WE NEEDED FOR THE DUNE PERMIT TO BE APPROVED OR IS IT ALL IN ADMINISTERED OF ORDER AND READY TO MOVE FORWARD? >> YES IT IS IN ADMINISTERED OF ORDER. WE TABLED LAST TIME BY REQUESTING OF THE ADJACENT LANDOWNERS MORE TIME TO REVIEW THE INFORMATION. NOT BECAUSE IT WAS INCOMPLETE, SO THEY WERE GIVEN ADDITIONAL TIME AND THEY COMMENTED AGAIN. >> PULL THE MICROPHONE UP A LITTLE BIT. SO THE DUNE PERMIT IS ADMINISTERED OF THE CORRECT. ALL THE THINGS DONE, WHAT WE DO TO ISSUE IS DONE. THEY DON'T LIKE WHERE THE ROAD IS, THAT'S A FIGHT WITH THEM AND THE CITY? THEY CAN DO THAT LATER IF THEY ARE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE DRAINAGE PLAN SO THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHY, WHEN WE DO A DUNE PERMIT, EXPLAINED THAT A LITTLE BIT. SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS WERE VALID, BUT NOT PERTINENT TO THIS PROCESS. >> SO THE PROJECT DID GO AND THEY REVIEWED, HAD COMMENTS, THE APPLICANT REVISED AND THE ENGINEER REVISED THE APPLICATION AND BROUGHT IT BACK. IT WAS REVIEWED AND ONLY NEEDED MINOR QUESTIONS AND THE REQUESTED IT TO BE SENT TO THE CHAIR FOR FINAL REVIEW AFTER MINOR CORRECTIONS WERE DONE. HE REVIEWED THE THIRD ITERATION AND HE GAVE IT THE OKAY. WE SENT , HIS MEMO WAS SENT TO THE JUDGE FOR REVIEW AND SHE SENT HER YOU TO THE GL OVERTOOK THEIR TIME COMMENTING AND HAD SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE APPROVAL LETTER FROM THE COUNTY. AFTER WE GOT THE LETTER BACK WE HAD THE ALLOTTED TIME THE LAND OWNER NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT. THAT'S ALL IN THE ADMINISTERED OF RECORD. >> SO, SOME OF THE THINGS THE PEOPLE EARLIER WERE COMMENTING ON WOULD BE MORE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY LATER DOWN THE ROAD. WE DON'T DEAL AT THE DUNE PERMIT LEVEL WITH ALL, BUT ANY THINGS HE DISCUSSED EARLIER. >> YES AND I PROVIDED SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE SOME OF THAT SHE SHOULD TALK TO THE CITY ABOUT , THE EROSION AND STORM WATER FLOW AND HOW THE WATER BE TRANSFERRED, ESPECIALLY INTO IMPACTS IF IT INCREASES THE AMOUNT OF WATER IN THE DITCH. THAT IS THE TXDOT JURISDICTION AND THEY WOULD [00:50:04] REVIEW AND SEE IF THERE'S ENOUGH CAPACITY FOR ADDITIONAL STORMWATER IF IT DOES CAUSE THAT IN THE DITCH, BUT IT A DIFFERENT PROCESS THEY GO THROUGH. SO THERE ARE MORE TECHNICAL REVIEWS THAT GO ON IN THE CITY THROUGH TXDOT FOR A LOT OF THESE ISSUES. >> RIGHT, SO AGAIN, THE ISSUES THAT THE GENTLEMAN BROUGHT UP, MAYBE VALID THEY ARE NOT APPLICABLE FOR THE DUNE PERMIT PROCESS WE ARE IN CURRENTLY. WE HAVE TRIED TO EXPLAIN THAT TO THEM IN EMAILS AND I KNOW THE CITY MET WITH THEM SO I WANT TO REITERATE ALL THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RELAYED EARLIER ARE ONES HE NEEDS TO TAKE TO THE CITY, THAT IS NOT, WE DON'T DO THAT AT THE DUNE PERMITTING. WE HAVE LIMITED ABILITY AND PROCESS OF WHICH WE HAVE FOLLOWED AND IT IS VERY DETAILED, IT GOES TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE, THEY MAKE COMMENT AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE PREFER. THE JUDGE IS INVOLVED. EVERYTHING THAT IS PUT INTO COMMENTS IS PART OF THE PERMIT. >> CORRECT. YES. IT IS PER THE DUNE PERMIT , THE QUESTIONS ASKED ARE BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE PERMIT. >> THE COUNTY HAS DONE ITS JOB. THE PERMIT HAS HAD ALL EYES DARTED AND T'S CROSSED. THE AREAS OF CONCERN ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO A DUNE PERMIT, THAT'S WE HAVE TO GO FIGHT WITH THE CITY ON THE DRAINAGE AND ALL THE ISSUES THAT ARE VERY VALID THAT HE BRINGS UP, BUT WE HAVE NO ABILITY TO REGULATE ANY OF THAT AT THE DUNE PERMITTING PROCESS. JUST MAKING SURE EVERYBODY IS CLEAR. WE HAVE SAID IT REPEATEDLY AND I GET THEY DON'T LIKE SOME OF THE THINGS IN THE LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIGHT IT AT THE CITY BUT IT'S NOT AT THE COUNTY THE DUNE PERMIT PROCESS FOLLOWED AND WE GIVE THEM TWO MORE WEEKS TO GO LOOK AT THIS TO MAKE SURE THE PERMIT WAS ACCURATE AND NOTHING HAS BEEN PRESENTED SING THE PERMIT IS NOT ACCURATE OR WE DO NOT FOLLOW THOSE PROCEDURES. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THIS PERMIT AND LET THEM GO FIGHT WITH THE CITY WHERE IT'S THE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO FIGHT. >> I WILL SECOND THE MOTION, BUT YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP, YOU HAVE A QUESTION YOU NEED TO ASK? >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING. I DID TRY MULTIPLE TIMES TO HAVE A CONVERSATION SO I COULD CLARIFY SOME OF THE ISSUES. I ALSO EXPLAINED THE TWO WEEKS WE WERE GIVEN WAS EXTREMELY LIMITED. I APPRECIATE IT, BUT UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES I WAS FACING, IT EXTREMELY LIMITED MY ABILITY TO DO MUCH WITH THIS. I THINK A PHONE CALL WOULD BE HELPFUL WHEN IT CLEARS UP THINGS LIKE THIS PROCEDURE WILL BE ADDRESSED IN A FUTURE MEETING. I HAVE QUESTIONS IN MY MIND. WILL I BE NOTIFIED? WHO AM I MEETING WITH TO DISCUSS CONCERNS WE HAVE ABOUT THE ACTUAL LOCATION AND HE SAYS IT'S NOT PART OF THE PERMIT, BUT TO ME THE PERMIT IS PART OF THE PLAN. IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE AND A PHONE CALL COULD'VE CLEARED IT UP AND THAT IS THE CASE WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS WITH SOMEBODY THEN WHO IS IT AND WILL I BE GIVEN NOTICE? A PHONE CALL COULD BE BETTER THAN EMAIL. >> I DISAGREE BECAUSE I PUT THINGS IN EMAILS BECAUSE THERE IS HE SAID SHE SAID. I CLEARLY SENT AT LEAST THREE EMAILS EXPLAIN THE PROCESS TO YOU VERY CLEARLY. I PUT YOU IN CONTACT WITH THE PEOPLE AT THE CITY. YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO HEAR WHAT I HAVE HAD TO TELL YOU WHICH IS IT'S THE CITY'S FIGHT. HOLD ON, I LET YOU SPEAK SO LET ME FINISH AND YOU CAN REBUT ME. I HAVE SENT YOU EMAIL AFTER EMAIL GUARDING EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS, A DUNE PERMIT. DON'T HAVE JURISDICTION TO DO THE THINGS YOU WANT TO FIGHT OVER. I HAVE SAID AND I WILL SHOW YOU THE EMAILS AGAIN. I PUT YOU IN CONTACT WITH THE PEOPLE. YOU KNOW WHO TO CONTACT AT THE CITY BECAUSE I PUT YOU IN CONTACT WITH THOSE FOLKS, I CONNECTED YOU WITH JEFF EDMONDS AND SORRY I CAN'T SAY THE LADY'S NAME HERE TODAY. I APOLOGIZE. SO TO SAY THAT HE HAD NOT BEEN INFORMED IS INACCURATE. MA'AM LET ME FINISH AND THEN YOU CAN TALK. I DID NOT INTERRUPT YOU. PLEASE LET ME FINISH BECAUSE I AM VERY FRUSTRATED WITH YOU AND THIS PROCESS BECAUSE I BELIEVE THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO STALL SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO STALL BECAUSE WE HAD ON OUR PART, THE PART YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT AND HER HUSBAND MADE VALID POINTS NEED TO BE MADE TO THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. THE LADY IS HERE, THEY KNOW TO NOTIFY YOU. THE CITY IS HERE, [00:55:04] THEY WILL NOTIFY. IF THEY DON'T, YOU HAVE THE CONTACT INFORMATION. LET'S GET IT OUT IN THE OPEN BECAUSE I'M TIRED OF HEARING THEY DON'T KNOW. DO YOU KNOW WHEN THIS WILL BE DISCUSSED? >> NEXT STEPS ARE TO GET THE UTP AMENDMENT ON IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE MONTHS. I WILL REACH OUT AND MAKE SURE SHE UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE DOING. >> WILL YOU COPY ME SO I DON'T HEAR FROM SOMEONE THEY DID NOT GET NOTICED? I WANT TO KNOW THEY HAVE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO FIGHT WHAT ME BE VALID CONCERNS THAT ARE NOT THE PLACE TO FIGHT A NUECES COUNTY. THEY ARE THE FIGHT AT CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. THEY MAY HAVE THE MOST VALID POINTS IN THE WORLD AND I HOPE YOU WILL TAKE THEM SAFELY, BUT I WILL SAY AGAIN FOR THE SIXTH TIME, THOSE ARE NOT CONCERNS THAT NUECES COUNTY CAN DO. WE HAVE DONE WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. KNOW IT'S UP TO THE CITY AND I HOPE YOU TAKE THEIR CONCERNS SERIOUSLY. THE DRAINAGE AND IMPACT ON THE DUNES AND THE DRAINAGE AND ALL THE THINGS THEY TALK ABOUT ME BE VERY VALID. PLEASE COPY ME WHEN YOU SET UP SOMETHING WITH THEM SO I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE WE HAVE GIVEN THESE PEOPLE EVERY COURTESY WE CAN. WE DELAYED BEFORE WHEN IT WAS RIGHT THE FIRST TIME, BUT WE DELAYED FOR TWO MORE WEEKS AND THEY WANTED ANOTHER MONTH AND I SAID NO WE ARE NOT DEALING ANOTHER MONTH BECAUSE THERE'S NO REASON. GO FIGHT AT THE CITY . SO GIVE ME YOUR WORD. MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE REACHED OUT TO AND NOTIFIED SO THEY CAN COME FIGHT. GIVE THEM LIKE TWO OR THREE WEEKS. WHATEVER THEY NEED BECAUSE GIVE THEM ALL THE NOTICE THEY NEED THANK YOU. >> YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, WE COMMUTED YOU BUT IT IS CLEAR WE ARE INSTRUCTING THEM AND WE APPRECIATE THE COMMUNICATION AND THEY HAVE MADE IT CLEAR THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE NOTIFIED WHEN YOU CAN TAKE IT UP WITH THE CITY. >> YES AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSIONER FOR MAKING THAT CLEAR. I WOULD SAY THE PROBLEM IS, COMMUNICATION AND EMAIL IS LIMITED. HE DID SAY THIS IS THE DUNE PERMIT. IT WAS NOT CLEAR WHAT WAS PART OF IT AND I ASKED TO BE CALLED OR LEFT A VOICE MESSAGE, THAT WAS THE DISCONNECT. I WANTED A PHONE CALL BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU THINK YOU ARE COMMITTED GETTING CLEARLY AND I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS. NONETHELESS I APPRECIATE THE INSTRUCTIONS TO MAKE SURE THEY CONTACT US TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO PASS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE AND HE OPPOSED? THE MOTION [12. Discuss and consider approval of the Large-Scale Dune Protection Permit Required for proposed single-family home at 113 Bikini Drive, Port Aransas – DPP-20240308. The address of the project is 113 Bikini Drive, Port Aransas, Texas 78373 and the legal description of the lot is: LA CONCHA ESTATES UNIT 2 LT 78 BLK 1 (16,489 square feet; 0.3785 acres).] PASSES. YOU WANT TO DO THE OTHER ONE? LET'S DO NUMBER 12, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL LARGE-SCALE DUNE PROTECTION PERMIT REQUIRED PROPOSED A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IN PORT ARANSAS. SINCE YOU'RE HERE WE WILL GET YOU UP SO MAYBE YOU CAN GET SOME OTHER WORK DONE. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. 113 BIKINI IS A LARGE-SCALE APPLICATION. THEY ARE IMPACTING A CRITICAL DUNE AND COMPENSATING FOR IT ON SITE WITH A ONE-TO-ONE RATIO FOR BOTH THE DUNE VOLUME AND SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE DUNE VEGETATION IMPACTED. THIS WENT THROUGH SEVERAL ITERATIONS AT BMAC, CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED THROUGH YOUR REVIEW AND THERE WERE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM THE GL OH THAT REQUIRED MORE REVISIONS FROM THE APPLICANT. SO THE VERSION OF THE APPLICATION ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA TODAY HAS BEEN REVISED TO ADDRESS ALL THE CONCERNS. NOW IT IS ADMINISTERED OF THE COMPLETE AND BMAC BITE YELLOW STANDARDS. >> MOTION TO PASS. MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES, [2. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving execution of Supplemental Agreement No. 1 to the Agreement with McGriff Insurance Services, LLC (“McGriff”) for Employee Benefits and Consulting Services (RFP No. 3257-23; Nueces County Contract No. 20240106-2/21) to: 1) appoint McGriff as broker of record; 2) authorize McGriff to receive broker’s commissions; and 3) approve additional services to be performed by McGriff, and related matters. ] THANK YOU. >> GOING BACK DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF SUPPLEMENTAL AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE, TO THE AGREEMENT WITH MCGRIFF INSURANCE SERVICES FOR EMPLOYEE BENEFITS AND CONSULTING. WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT MOTIONS, APPOINT MCGRIFF AS BROKER OF RECORD. AUTHORIZE MCGRIFF TO RECEIVE BROKER COMMISSIONS AND APPROVE ADDITIONAL SERVICES TO BE PERFORMED AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN DOING THESE THINGS SOMEWHAT ON BEHALF OF US. THERE IS NO ONE [01:00:06] DOING THIS. IT IS LEGAL AND THEY CAN. >> I HAVE A QUESTIONS. WHY IN THE WORLD ARE WE GOING BACK TO BROKERS COMMISSIONS? UNLESS I AM FORGETTING SOMETHING, WE WENT AWAY FROM COMMISSIONS BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE THAT WAS SELF-SERVING AND WE WOULD NOT NECESSARILY GET THE BEST TO DEAL.'S WE WENT TO HIRING INSURANCE CONSULTANTS ON A MONTHLY BASIS. I.E. CARLISLE AND USED TO BE DURAND, NOW MCGRIFF. UNLESS I'M MISSING SOMETHING WHY WOULD WE WANT TO GO DOWN A PATH OF REOPENING BROKERAGE COMMISSIONS? I MAYBE NOT READING THIS RIGHT. >> THEY WERE DOING IT BEFORE WITH SOMEONE ELSE WE DID NOT HAVE A CONTRACT WITH. >> THIS WAS HAPPENING WITH TIME WHERE THERE WAS A PERSON RECEIVING COMMISSIONS AND PERFORMING SOME. >> THAT'S NOT LEGAL. WE DID NOT AUTHORIZE THAT. >> I AM UNABLE TO LOCATE . >> IT STOPPED IMMEDIATELY WHEN WE QUESTIONED IT. >> WE NEED TO GO INTO LEGAL , I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THIS ONE. THIS IS A LITTLE MESSY. I HAVE SOME LEGAL QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE. NOT TRYING TO STOP ANYBODY ELSE FROM ASKING OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT I NEED, YEAH. BEFORE ACCUSATIONS START FLYING AROUND. PLEASE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE THAT REPORT? THEN WE WILL MOVE [3. Discuss and consider approval of lease with Robstown I.S.D. for use of the Old Show Barn (Nueces County Agriculture Center) located at 900 W. Ave. J. in Robstown, Texas and related matters. ] ON. ITEM NUMBER THREE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A LEASE WITH ROBSTOWN ISD USE OF OLD SHOW BARN NUECES COUNTY AGRICULTURE CENTER. 900 WEST AVE. J , INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THEY HAVE BEEN USING IN THE PAST. I GUESS THIS IS UPDATING WHAT WAS EXPIRED? >> YES, THIS ITEM EXPIRED. THE COURT AGREED TO THIS A FEW YEARS BACK AND THERE WAS A CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP AND ROBSTOWN ISD WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT. IN THAT TIME IT WAS AROUND THE TIME WE SHOULD OF HAD THIS BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD AND BEFORE THE COURT. 'S WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING OUT OF GOOD FAITH, BUT IT IS A LIABILITY AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ROBSTOWN ISD WANTS TO TAKE FULL OWNERSHIP CONSIDERING IT IS A LEASE. SO THEY CAN PUT IN MORE INVESTMENT LONG-TERM RATHER THAN HAVE IT PULLED OUT FROM AFTER ONE YEAR OR TWO. THEY WANT TO PUT SIZABLE INVESTMENT INTO IT. WE HAVE PUT FUNDING FROM MY PRECINCT FUNDS TO ADDRESS ROOF ISSUES, TO ADDRESS WINDOW ISSUES THAT ELEMENTS WERE GETTING INTO THE FACILITY IN THE ROBSTOWN AGRICULTURE PROGRAM INITIALLY DID NOT HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO SO THEY WERE THANKFUL, WE MADE ADJUSTMENTS BUT THEY WANT TO DO MORE. SO THIS IS TO SURE IT UP, GET IT OFFICIAL MAKE IT LEGAL. WE ARE GETTING INTO THE SEASON, THE KIDS ARE PREPARING FOR THE LIVESTOCK SHOW. SO THIS IS ONE WAY WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HELP OUT THE COMMUNITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THERE ONE OF THE MORE ACTIVE DISTRICTS IN OUR COUNTY. THEY JUST DID NOT HAVE A DEDICATED FACILITY. >> OF SUCH A MOTION I WILL SECOND. >> THIS IS REALLY COOL. CAN I ASK WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO? >> THEY HAVE BEEN USING IT FOR HOUSING ANIMALS BASICALLY. >> WHAT'S THE INVESTMENT? >> THAT HAVE NOT COME BACK WITH A TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT THEY PUT THE LARGE FANS THE INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT WHEN THEY FIRST CAME BEFORE US MENTIONED INVESTING IN THE LARGE FANS. CLEANUP, THEY PUT IN SOME ELBOW GREASE. THEY PUT A LOT OF EFFORT FROM THE KIDS AND THE PARENTS TO FIX A FACILITY THAT WE STILL OWNED, BUT WE PUT NO USE OR EFFORT INTO IT TO KEEP IT CLEAN. >> WHAT WE DID IS WE TURNED IT INTO STORAGE. SO WHEN THEY CAME TO US WE HAD THE EXTERIOR PENS AND INTERIOR AREAS. THEY BEEN PAYING THE BILLS, THE WATER BILLS, THEY UPGRADED A BATHROOM , THEY HAVE DONE SERIOUS WORK TO THE FACILITY, TO HAVE IT AVAILABLE FOR THOSE PROGRAMS. THEY ALSO SUPPORT THE OUTLYING EXISTING 4-H PROGRAMS SO THEY ALLOW DIFFERENT GROUPS IN. >> WE ARE ALL VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. EXCITED ABOUT THE INITIATIVE. WE HAVE A MOTION [01:05:01] AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER MAREZ THE MOTION AND I SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE [4. Discuss and consider approval of renewal contract with Thomson Reuters for Westlaw, County Attorney access; and related matters.] MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL THE RENEWAL CONTRACT WITH THOMAS ROUTERS COUNTY ATTORNEY ACCESS. I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS . >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. AYE -- ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? [5. Discuss and consider approval of the 2024/2025 Amendment to County Attorney's Supplemental Pay Letter Allocation under Dept 1325 in accordance with Section 46.0031 of the Texas Government Code, and all related matters.] THE MOTION PASSES. NUMBER FIVE DISCUSS IN CONSIDERABLE 2024-2025 AMENDMENT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SUPPLEMENTAL PAY LETTER ALLOCATION UNDER DEPARTMENT 1325 SECTION 46 SECTION 40 60031. THIS IS SUPPLEMENT TO PAY YOU GET FROM THE STATE THAT YOU DISPERSE OUT SO I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS. DISPERSE AS YOU SEE FIT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANNUAL POST? THE MOTION PASSES. [6. Discuss and consider the Game Room Policy and all related matters.] [7. Discuss and consider approval of 2025 Deaf and Hard of Hearing Service Agreement, and any related matters.] WE HAVE TABLED OUT OF NUMBER SIX, MOVING ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL 2025 DEAF AND HARD OF HEARING SERVICE AGREEMENT. THIS IS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES AND THE CONTRACT FOR NEXT YEAR. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS. >> SECOND, BUT WE HAVE AN AMOUNT? >> I BELIEVE IT IS 50,000. >> AS NEEDED. ONLY USED IN EMERGENCY. >> DISTRICT COURTS USE THIS AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. WE MADE SURE TO GET IN LANGUAGE FOR FEMA SO WHEN WE USE IT DURING EMERGENCY WE CAN GET REIMBURSED. >> WITHOUT THIS LANGUAGE INCLUDED WE DON'T GET REIMBURSED SO WE ADDED LANGUAGE. >> AS NEEDED BASIS RIGHT? ONE OF THE PRE-POSITION CONTRACTS. >> YES. >> I HAVE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE MENTION ABOUT THIS. AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR SEGMENTS OF THE COMMUNITY WE DON'T NECESSARILY CONSIDER WHEN IT IS EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND THE JUDGE HAS TO GO OUT PEOPLE TAKE INFORMATION AS THEY GO, BUT HAVE SOMEONE DEDICATED TO DO THAT IS SO IMPORTANT. WE SEE THAT IN OTHER EMERGENCY EVENTS NATIONWIDE AND THEY DO THAT ADEQUATELY, BUT THE FACT THAT WE ARE POSITIONING THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT SO I KNOW THAT WAS MENTIONED DURING THE FIRST RUN FOR THE ONLY RUN, OUR ONLY SCARE SO FAR THIS HURRICANE SEASON. OF COURSE IT CAN HAPPEN ANYTIME. WE NEED A JUDGE AND MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS TO COMMUNITY WITH ALL COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU FOR WORKING ON THIS. >> I MADE THE MOTION TO ANYONE SECOND? >> I'M SORRY, JAG DID. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. [8. Discuss and consider issuing a burn ban for all unincorporated areas of Nueces County, and any related matters.] ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ISSUING BURN BAN ALL UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF NUECES COUNTY AND WHAT IS THE NUMBER TODAY? LAST WEEK WHEN I CHECKED IT WAS 400 SOMETHING. >> AS OF THIS MORNING THE AVERAGE IS 499. IT IS UP SIX POINTS FROM FRIDAY. MINIMUM NUMBER HAS BEEN 305 WITH MAXIMUM 677. THOSE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON THE DAILY WATER BALANCE. BASED ON THE PRECIPITATION OF THE SOIL MOISTURE. I HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CHIEF WHO IS MY GO TO IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS FOR FIRE POTENTIAL. HE IS ALSO RECOMMENDING A BURN BAN AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY GETTING DRIER. WHEN THE FALL COMES. THIS IS WHEN IT HAPPENS. >> CAN WE CONSIDER DOING THIS SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER WHERE THE JUDGE CAN HAVE SOME DISCRETION ON THIS ONE? >> THAT HAD BEEN MY ARGUMENT TO BEGIN WITH BECAUSE I HAVE AUTHORITY TO DO IT IF WE NEED IT WHENEVER IT COMES UP. YOU HAVE THE ABILITY? YOU HAVE THE ABILITY. >> I HAVE THE ABILITY TO CALL ONE. >> SHE CAN RECOMMEND ONE FOR SEVEN DAYS, BUT WITHIN THAT SEVEN DAYS YOU HAVE TO COME RATIFY BEFORE IT CAN BE EXTENDED. >> WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS YOU ONLY HAVE LIMITED AUTHORITY BASED ON A LIMITED NUMBER OF DAYS. WE SHOULD GIVE YOU MORE BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE RIGHT. >> WHEN WE DO A BURN BAN TYPICALLY YOU CAN DO UP TO 90 DAYS. I'M DOING THIS FOR 60, [01:10:02] BUT AT ANYTIME DURING THE 60 DAYS THE JUDGE HAS AUTHORITY TO RESCIND IT AT ANY TIME. >> IF WE DON'T HAVE CORD WITHIN THE TIME BECAUSE YOU HAVE ONE IN NOVEMBER AND ONE IN DECEMBER. >> YOU DON'T NEED THE COURT TO RESCIND. >> WHERE'S THE LAW ON THAT? >> LOOK AT THE PROPOSAL AND THE BURN BAN. COMMISSIONERS COURT OR THE JUDGE HAS THE ABILITY TO RESCIND THE BURN BAN IF CONDITIONS CHANGE WITHIN THAT PERIOD OF TIME. THEN ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS I GO BACK AND TALK WITH TEXAS A&M, TELL THEM WE HAVE RESCINDED , CONTACT MY FIRE PEOPLE UNINCORPORATED AREAS AND LET THEM KNOW AND WE PUT A NOTICE OUT TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THERE IS NO LONGER A BURN BAN. >> IT IS NOT TO GO TO THE COURT TO CONSENT? IF YOU REMEMBER THE LAST BURN BAN. >> IT IS IN THE BACKUP? >> IF YOU READ THE BURN BAN THERE IS A STATUTE WE FOLLOW. >> I DON'T REGULARLY READ THE BURN BAN LET ME ADMIT. CAN YOU PROVIDE THE BURN BAN SO I CAN SEE IT? >> I WILL DEFINITELY. >> I WOULD LIKE IT NOW, NO OFFENSE, BUT I LIKE TO READ THINGS. >> I UNDERSTAND BUT I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME. >> IF WE CAN JUST STOP ON THIS ONE UNTIL YOU READ IT BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE. IF THE LAW SAYS SHE CAN RESCIND IT, THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE WE MAY NEED IT FOR A WEEK OR SIX MONTHS I DON'T KNOW. I WOULD LIKE THE JUDGE TO MAKE SURE. >> AS SOON AS YOU GET IT BACK I WILL YOU UP. >> COMES TO A POINT WHERE THEY NEED IT , YOU CAN RATIFY. >> JUST GO GET IT. IF WE DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF US WE WON'T KNOW. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR, GIVE ME THE LAW. >> LET'S GET WHAT THE LAW STATES AND WE WILL FOLLOW THE LETTER OF THE LAW. MOVING ON ITEM 9. WE ARE HOLDING IT UNTIL SHE COMES BACK. I WILL RESEND [9. Discuss and consider allocation of Vote Entitlement for Nueces County Appraisal District Board of Directors Ballot; discuss and consider adoption of resolution casting votes for the Nueces County Appraisal District Board of Directors, and related matters.] IT , MY MOTION UNTIL SHE COMES BACK. ITEM NUMBER NINE. THIS IS ON DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ALLOCATION OF THE BOAT ENTITLEMENT NUECES COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT. WE DID OUR OPEN APPLICATIONS FOR PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO BE ON HERE. WE SEND IN THREE NAMES TO THE APPRAISAL BOARD, THE CITY SENT NAMES, THE DELMAR AND THEY CAME BACK WITH A LIST OF 10 NAMES. THE COUNTY HAS 700 VOTES THAT WE CAN VOTE. I WANTED THIS TO BE BROUGHT UP EVEN THOUGH WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO IT I WANTED THIS TO COME BACK TO NOVEMBER BECAUSE WE CAN EITHER DECIDE WE WANT TO DO A VOTE UNANIMOUS TOGETHER TO HELP US GET A PERSON THAT WE ALL APPROVE OF ON THIS BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF VOTES. WE CAN DIVIDE UP TO 140 EACH AND EACH PICK A DIFFERENT PERSON AND MAYBE NONE OF OUR PEOPLE GET IN. IS KIND OF SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. >> WHO ARE THE ONES WE PUT FORWARD? >> WE PUT FORWARD . >> >> HE WAS MINE BUT HE CAME IN LATE. >> I MEAN WE ARE NOT DOING IT TODAY JUST ASKING. >> GABRIELLE, SHIRLEY AND SUSIE SULLIVAN. >> JUST A QUESTION. SHE IS DONE. >> JUDGE SORRY. YES IT WAS GABBY , SUSIE SULLIVAN AND WHAT WAS THE THIRD NAME? ONE SHIRLEY. >> YES, THE LAST THREE, YES THE THREE APPLICATIONS WE RECEIVED WE TURNED IN THOSE APPLICATIONS WE RECEIVED ON TIME. YES. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION TO TABLE TO THE NOVEMBER 13 . I THINK THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO CHOICES. I WANTED YOU TO SEE. IT HAS TO BE DONE ON THE 13 BECAUSE WE ARE AT A DEADLINE TO TURN THESE NAMES IN AND THEN WHEN IT GOES TO THE APPRAISAL BOARD THEY WILL TALLY UP THE VOTES AND THOSE PEOPLE WITH THE MOST VOTES WILL GET THOSE POSITIONS. STARTS JANUARY 1 , THEY WILL BE BEGINNING. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO [01:15:02] BRING BACK NOVEMBER 13, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY [10. Discuss and consider appointment of election judges and apportionment of election judges for voting centers per commissioner precinct and authorize Presiding Judges to hire the designated number of clerks for Election Day in accordance with Sections 32.002, 32.033, and 32.093 of the Texas Election Code; and related matters.] OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER 10. GO AHEAD. THREE A 10 IS NOT IN THE BACKUP. YES THERE IS BACK UP. THANK YOU. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTMENT OF ELECTION JUDGES AND APPORTIONMENT OF CHARGES FOR VOTING CENTERS AND THIS GOES ON PER COMMISSIONER PRECINCT AUTHORIZING PRESIDING JUDGES TO HIRE DESIGNATED NUMBER OF CLERKS FOR ELECTION DAY IN ACCORDING SECTION 30 2002, 30 2003, 3209 THREE. THE PERCENTAGES CALCULATED BY PRECINCT VOTER TURNOUT REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC PARTIES HAVE REVIEWED THIS WHICH WAS SENT TO THEM. I BELIEVE THEY ARE BOTH IN AGREEMENT. THE THING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO PASS AND SAID A MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CLERKS FOR EACH. HISTORICALLY TWO FOR THE LOWER TURNOUT AND I WOULD SUGGEST MAXIMUM AS PER THE COUNTY CLERK OF SIX FOR THE LARGER TURNOUT IN A LOT OF THOSE PLACES THAT HAVE CONTINUAL PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP. SO WE NEED TO PROVE THIS AND TO SET THE MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM. IF ANY OF YOU HAVE SUGGESTIONS, THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN TURNED IN, IF NOT I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT. >> QUESTION. I GUESS WHO WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS? I WOULD EXPECT THE CLERK TO BE HERE BECAUSE WE DID NOT COME UP WITH THIS. >> THIS IS A LIST BASED ON HOW YOUR PRECINCT IS DONE. >> NOT IN MY PRECINCT. A COUPLE ON HERE ARE NOT IN MY PRECINCT. THE BAPTIST CHURCHES PRECINCT 1 . THAT'S NOT IN MY PRECINCT. 4025 BY THAT ROAD. >> I SEE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. >> WE ARE THE ONE IN CHARGE OF THIS? >> APPARENTLY. >> I'M SORRY WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? >> HOW DID YOU GET THIS RESPONSIBILITY? >> THE COUNTY CLERK TURNED IT OVER. SHE GAVE IT TO US. >> THE APPORTIONMENT HAD NOT BEEN ADDRESSED IN AUGUST WHEN WE DID THE ELECTION JUDGES. >> THAT SOMETHING WE NORMALLY HANDLE AS A COURT, TYPICALLY WE VOTE TO FINALIZE BUT USUALLY IT'S GIVEN TO US AND SAYS HERE IT IS THE WORK. WE JUST REVIEW AND APPROVE. >> SO THAT CHANGE . >> THAT HAD BEEN DONE IN THE PAST AT TIMES. >> HE IS STATING A GOOD QUESTION. THE ANNABELLE BAPTIST CHURCH IS NOT IN PRECINCT OR. >> IT'S ON THE LIST. >> COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER MAREZ. >> THAT ONE IS NOT MINE. IS THERE A CERTAIN NUMBER WE SHOULD HAVE? >> I CAN GO DOUBLE CHECK THE U-BOAT CENTERS . >> WHERE DID YOU GET THIS LIST? >> THIS WAS MY LIST. THEY GAVE ME, THE COUNTY CLERK PROVIDED ME A LIST OF THE VOTE CENTERS FOR ELECTION DAY. I WENT AND SEARCHED THE ADDRESS OF EACH VOTE CENTER ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. IT SHOWS WHICH VOTE PRECINCT THE ADDRESS FALLS INTO . AND THEN THAT PARTICULAR VOTE PRECINCT MUST COME BACK OFF MY LIST ON THE BREAKUP BUT I WILL DOUBLE CHECK. >> WE CAN VOTE TO APPROVE THIS. >> IS THAT THE ONLY ONE? >> WE GOT THE LIST SO THERE WILL BE TIME TO LOOK THROUGH THIS. >> I SENT THESE TO THE OFFICES LAST WEEK, I WILL GO DOUBLE CHECK. >> THESE WENT TO THE REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC PARTIES AND TO THE COUNTY CLERK FOR EVERYONE TO LOOK OVER. I DID NOT EVEN SEE THIS ON YOURS. >> THAT MIGHT BE THE ONLY ONE. COLLEGE WEST CAMPUS JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD DOES NOT , I GUESS IT COULD FALL IN, I [01:20:03] THINK IT'S ON THE OUTSIDE EDGE. SOME ARE CLOSE. ANNABLE BAPTIST IS RELATIVELY CLOSE. I DO HAVE THE AREA OF VIOLET BUT NOT ALL OF VIOLET ROAD. >> I WAS GOING OFF OF WHERE WHAT VOTING PRECINCT IT FELL INTO. I HAD A BREAKOUT THE TAX OFFICE PROVIDED A BREAKOUT OF WHAT VOTING PRECINCTS FALL INTO WHICH COMMISSIONER PRECINCT SO IT MIGHT BE THE ADDRESS FALLS INTO THE VOTING PRECINCT, IT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE PART OF PRECINCT 3 DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> KING HIGH SCHOOL? >> THAT MAKE SENSE. >> KING HIGH SCHOOL PROPER, THOSE GROUNDS ARE IN MY PRECINCT. LIKE WEST OH SO , I HAVE THE JUNIOR HIGH OR HIGH SCHOOL AND YOU HAVE THE OTHER AND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ HAS THE REST. >> OKAY SO THEY ALREADY HAVE PRETTY CLOSE TO MINE. WE SPLIT. >> WITH REFERENCES GOING OFF THE VOTING PRECINCT THAT IS WHY I HAD GONE OF THOSE NUMBERS. KING HIGH SCHOOL. >> KING HIGH SCHOOL IS IN MY AREA BUT WE WERE SHOWING EXAMPLES OF WHERE THERE'S A SPLIT OF THE COMMISSIONER PRECINCT. ALMOST CERTAIN BECAUSE IT GOES SO FAR INTO VIOLET. THAT'S WHY IT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION. I DROVE BY THAT THE OTHER DAY TO GO TO A FOOTBALL GAME AND THERE'S ALMOST NO CERTAINTY THAT WOULD BE IN MY PRECINCT. THAT IS IN THE AREA, COMMISSIONER PRECINCT 1, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY AREA. OTHER THAN THAT, THAT MIGHT BE THE ONLY ONE. I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT OTHERS TO SEE MY AREAS IN SOME OF THE OTHER PRECINCTS. >> ABSOLUTELY. I WILL DOUBLE CHECK THAT AND THE OTHERS. >> CHECK WITH THE COUNTY CLERK. SO EVERYBODY AGREES MOVING FORWARD, WE DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON THIS TO MOVE FORWARD IF IT'S NOT. IT MAKES MORE SENSE IT'S THE VOTING PRECINCT , NOT EXACTLY THAT ADDRESS. IT'S CLOSE. >> AND HIGH SCHOOL, BUT IT'S A MIXTURE. >> RIGHT. >> WE WILL BRING THIS ONE BACK UP. ITEM NUMBER 10. MISS HAWKINS YOU ARE HERE. IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK FOR THE STATUTE ON THE BURN BAN, IF IT CAN BE RECALLED WITHOUT COMING BACK TO COURT? >> TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SUBCHAPTER D OUTDOOR BURNING 352 ZERO AND ONE REGULATION OF OUTDOOR BURNING. AND ORDER ADOPTED UNDER THIS SECTION MUST SPECIFY THE PERIOD DURING WHICH OUTDOOR BURNING IS PROHIBITED AND RESTRICTED THAT'S WHY THERE IS 60 DAYS. THE PERIOD MAY NOT EXPAND BEYOND 90TH. AFTER THE DATE THE ORDER IS ADOPTED. ORDER ADOPTED UNDER THIS SECTION EXPIRES AS APPLICABLE ON THE DAY ONE, DETERMINATION MADE UNDER SUBSECTION B THAT THE DROUGHT CONDITIONS NO LONGER EXIST OR TWO, DETENTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONERS COURT OR COUNTY JUDGE OR FIRE MARSHAL IF DESIGNATED FOR THE PURPOSE BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT THE CIRCUMSTANCE IDENTIFIED UNDER SUBSECTION C MARK 2 NO LONGER EXISTS. >> CAN YOU MAKE IS A COPY? >> I CAN MAKE YOU A COPY. >> WE DO THE 60 DAYS FOR SOME WIGGLE ROOM. IF THE CONDITIONS WITHIN 60 DAYS DO CHANGE, THE JUDGE HAS THE ABILITY TO RESCIND THE ORDER. THE CHIEF JUST SAW THE UPDATED AND IT'S 505 TODAY. >> JUDGE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO EXTEND THIS UNTIL THE NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING FOR THE BURN BAN AND SEE WHERE WE ARE AT THAT POINT. >> THE REASON WE DID WANT TO SUGGEST, LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF FIRES WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY. WE HAD SEVERAL FIRES IN THE COUNTY. HAVING ONE A WEEK. WE HAD ONE THIS LAST WEEKEND WHERE A STRUCTURE WAS BURNED DOWN. >> AGAIN I HAVE MADE THE MOTION TO EXTEND THIS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING AND THEN WE CAN REVIEW [01:25:03] AGAIN. ON NOVEMBER 13 THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. I DON'T SEE WHY WE NEED TO GO 60 DAYS. >> I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. THE MOTION PASSES. MOVING COMING BACK ITEM NUMBER 10. MOVING ON THREE A 13 [13. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving execution of Job Order Authorization No. NCCP-003 in the amount of $81,597.41 under Job Order Contracting (JOC) Agreement No. 20240172-4/10 (RFP 3256-23) with South Texas Business Partners for the replacement of Padre Balli Office Doors; and related matters.] DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING EXECUTION OF JOB ORDER AUTHORIZATION NUMBER 003 IN THE AMOUNT OF $81,597 UNDER JOB ORDER CONTRACT AGREEMENT WITH AND THERE'S A MISPRINT. SOUTH TEXAS BUILDING PARTNERS NOT BUSINESS PARTNERS. IT IS ON REPLACEMENT . SO YES, THANK YOU JUDGE. THE FUNDS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR YOU WHILE. I HAVE UPDATED WITH COMMISSIONER EMILY ON THIS. LEFT OVER FROM INSURANCE PROCEEDS ALLOCATED AFTER HURRICANE , SO WE HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB PINCHING THE PENNIES SO WE CAN GET THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT DOORS REPLACED WITH NEW SECURITY KEYPAD SYSTEMS. IT WILL HELP ME UPGRADE THE MAIN ENTRY DOOR TO MAKE IT FULLY ADA ACCESSIBLE. >> SO MOVED. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. [14. Receive updates from GrantWorks on American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) projects and deadlines and all related matters. Discuss and take action if necessary. ] MOVING ON THREE A 14 RECEIVING UPDATE FROM GRAND WORKS ON THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN AT PROJECTS AND DEADLINES. NEXT MEETING NOVEMBER 13 WILL BE A HARD DEADLINE FOR THAT. DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER ON THE LAST THING? DID YOU COME IN FOR THAT? NO TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE. >> WE ARE TRAINING. >> UNDERSTAND. THERE WERE QUESTIONS ON THE PRECINCT ON THE PRECINCT 3 PROPORTION MEANT THE ANNABELLE BAPTIST CHURCH BEING IN THE GROUP. I KNOW WE SENT THE LIST TO YOU OR YOUR OFFICE SO IS THERE A WAY TO EXPLAIN THAT? >> I DID NOT DO THIS. I DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWER. I RECOMMENDED LOCATIONS, THIS IS YOUR JOB. SO YOU ALL SHOULD GET ME AN ANSWER. SERIOUS I DON'T KNOW. >> YOU DO IT NORMALLY. YOU GIVE IT TO US. I ASKED HER TO SEND THIS TO YOU BEFORE IT CAME TO COURT BECAUSE YOU DO THIS IN THE PAST. >> THIS IS THE NEW LOCATION SO THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING, I KNOW SHE WORKED REALLY HARD ON IT. >> I THOUGHT YOU CAME IN WITH AN ANSWER. >> DID THE LAW CHANGE? NORMALLY WE GET A LIST AND THEN WE REVIEW AND APPROVE. WHY IS THAT FUNCTION NOW BEING THROWN? >> SHE GIVE US A LIST ORIGINALLY FOR THE VOTING PRECINCTS. A LIST OF THE PLACES YOU WOULD USE. THIS IS JUST THE APPORTIONMENT OF WHAT IS PRESIDING JUDGE. >> IS THAT SOMETHING NEW? >> WE ARE JUST REALLY BUSY. IT'S BEEN A SMOOTH PROCESS. >> IN THE PAST WE HAVE ORDER TO ALLOW YOU TO JUST DO IT AND CHANGE IT, THIS YEAR YOU GIVE IT TO US. SO IN THE PAST WE HAVE ALLOWED YOU TO TAKE IT. THAT'S WHY IT IS CHANGED. >> REALLY IT IS HERE, TAKE IT BACK. >> THIS WAS APPROVED? >> THE NUMBER OF PRESIDING JUDGES. >> THEY PROVIDED A LIST TO YOU ALL. AND YOU ALL APPROVED THEM. THE LIST FROM THE PARTY. >> I THINK TYRA IS BACK IN. >> NOW YOU'RE JUST ASSIGNING. >> THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE ASSIGNMENT FOR PRECINCT 3 WITH ANNABELLE BAPTIST WHICH HE SAYS IS NOT IN. >> YES, IT'S NEAR THE HILLTOP. >> IT LOOKS LIKE SHE HAS THE ANSWER. I THOUGHT YOU HAD AN ANSWER I'M SORRY. >> ONE QUESTION ON ONE OF MINE. ROCK FILLED ROAD. AND MY BORDERLINE , SO IS GALLERY CHAPEL OF THE COASTLAND? >> IS THAT 125? [01:30:02] >> COMMISSIONER MAREZ ADDRESS FOR ANNABELLE BAPTIST CHURCH FALLS INTO VOTING PRECINCT 28 AND VOTING PRECINCT 28 FALLS INTO PRECINCT 3. AND I CAN LOOK INTO THE ADDRESS. CAVALRY CHAPEL. >> 2001 >> 2001 ROD FIELD RD. THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO ME. NOW THE OTHER ONE. >> IF YOU HAVE TIME TO FILE WOULD YOU GO TO THE OFFICE TO LOOK AT THIS SINCE YOU HAVE DONE THESE IN THE PAST? THANK YOU AND COME BACK. >> TO BE CLEAR WOULD WE STICK WITH THE VOTING PRECINCT , WHERE THE VOTING PRECINCTS FALL INTO OR BY THE LOCATION? >> TALK TO HER. WE WILL DO WITH WHAT THE RULE SAYS. >> I GUARANTEE THE , SORRY WHAT WAS PRECINCT 2? CAVALRY BAPTIST. THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY PRECINCT. VOTING PRECINCT WISE THAT'S THE CONFUSION. THAT'S WHY I AM CONFUSED AT WHAT'S GOING ON. WHY IS IT DIFFERENT AND WHY DOES IT LOOK DIFFERENT? >> GET WITH HER. THIS NEEDS TO BE DECIDED TODAY. >> THEY CAN VOTE ANYWHERE. >> THIS IS SIMPLY JUST SEEING WHO IS THE PRESIDING AND ALTERNATE JUDGES. >> THAT'S A BIG DEAL. OKAY. >> NOW ITEM NUMBER 14. RECEIVE AN UPDATE FROM GRAND WORKS ON THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT PROJECTS AND DEADLINES. SORRY, I THOUGHT SHE HAD AN ANSWER TO SOLVE ALL PROBLEMS BUT WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS SO WE WILL GET BACK TO THAT LATER. >> NO PROBLEM AT ALL. WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT ARPA AND GIVE YOU ALL AN UPDATE. AS YOU KNOW WE ARE QUICKLY MOVING TOWARD THE OBLIGATION DEADLINE AT THE END OF THE YEAR. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SOME OPTIONS WE HAVE. >> CASIO QUESTION BEFORE YOU ARE GOING. I'M SORRY I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF BUT I DO. THE REASON I TABLE MINE IS THE JUDGE WAS RIGHT IT WAS NOT SPECIFIC ENOUGH, BUT THE OTHER THING. I HAVE A PROJECT WHEN WE AWARD TODAY WILL COME IN UNDER SIGNIFICANTLY UNDER BUDGET WHICH IS GREAT. WHICH WILL FREE UP ME TO HAVE ADDITIONAL ARPA FUNDS TO USE IN MY PRECINCT. SEMI BEST PRACTICE QUESTION IS DO I JUST LEAVE IT IN THAT PROJECT FOR CONTINGENCY AND IT DOES THAT COUNT AS BEING ALLOCATED? I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THAT. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER SO I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THOSE FUNDS. BUT I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH. >> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT TODAY IS ABOUT. WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO WITH THE FUNDS BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE PROJECTS SIMILAR. >> OKAY, SO THEN WHAT DO I DO? >> THAT'S THE MOU'S SHE WILL TALK ABOUT. >> DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF A PROJECT YOU WOULD WANT TO MOVE THE FUNDS INTO OR NO IDEA YET? >> POSSIBLY, BUT I WANT TO LEAVE SOMETHING FOR CONTINGENCY BECAUSE THINGS SOMETIMES GO WRONG BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT COUNTS WITH THE FACT THAT WE ARE COMING UP ON THE END OF THE YEAR AND WHAT TO DO. YES I COULD SHIFT TO A PROJECT AND IT WILL FIGURE THAT OUT BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER 16 MEETING OR WHATEVER THE DATE IS 13TH. AND FIGURE IT OUT, BUT I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT I HAVE TO DO. IF I LEAVE THE PROJECT AND IF IT HAPPENS TO BLEED OVER WHAT HAPPENED? DO I LOSE THOSE FUNDS? >> WE DO HAVE SOME OPTIONS HERE. SO, WE HAVE THE MOU THAT WE WERE GOING TO TALK TO HER TODAY. WE PUT A DRAFT ON THE AGENDA AS BACKUP SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AS AN EXAMPLE. SO THAT COULD BE ONE OPTION FOR YOUR SITUATION COMMISSION. PUTTING THOSE FUNDS IN THE MOU, THE BACKUP THAT I INCLUDED . >> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I READ THE MOU BUT I'M NOT FOLLOWING. GIVE ME A LITTLE MORE DETAIL, I APOLOGIZE, PUT IT IN THE MOU? >> TREASURY HAS RELEASED SORT OF A FLEXIBILITY MEASURE SINCE SO MANY PEOPLE FROM THE TREASURY REPORT, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BEHIND MEETING THE DEADLINE. SO THEY INTRODUCED A [01:35:06] FLEXIBILITY MEASURE , AS THE INTERAGENCY AGREEMENT OTHERWISE KNOWN AS MOU YOU CAN OBLIGATE THESE FUNDS. YOU CAN SEE IN THE BACKUP, THE BACKUP IS DIRECTLY FROM TREASURY. SO THE SLIDES ARE FROM THE WEBINAR THAT THEY DID ON OBLIGATIONS. AND THEN THE BOTTOM SHEET IS LIKE A QUICK FACT SHEET THAT THEY PUT OUT. AS LONG AS THE INTERAGENCY AGREEMENT MEETS THESE REQUIREMENTS AS LAID OUT ON THIS BACKUP, THEN THEY WILL BE COUNTED AS AN OBLIGATION. >> INTERAGENCY? WHO WHAT I HAVE? >> IT'S KIND OF UNCONVENTIONAL. THEY HAVE SET YOU CAN DO INTERAGENCY AGREEMENTS WITH YOURSELF, WITH ANOTHER DEPARTMENT. SO WITH WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING IS THAT, YOU CAN HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT MOU'S. SO YOU HAVE A MOU WITH EACH DEPARTMENT THAT OVERSEES THAT. >> FOR ANOTHER PROJECT. SO YOU'RE SAYING I CAN ASSIGN TO EXISTING PROJECT THAT I NEED IT FOR OR I CAN HAVE A MOU? >> WITH PUBLIC WORKS. WITH THE HR, IF IT'S PERSONNEL. THERE ARE STIPULATIONS. ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO ADDRESS AND PUSH MOVING FORWARD IF WE DO THESE THINGS, THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO, YOU CAN CREATE A NEW PROJECT WITH THIS. IT HAS TO BE A PROJECT ON OUT FOR BID , MAYBE AMENDMENT ALTERNATE OR SOMETHING DID NOT HAVE FUNDING FOR AN IT CAN GO TOWARD THAT PROJECT IN THE FUTURE. YOU CAN JUST PULL OUT ON THE JOB IS NOT OBLIGATED. IN THESE MEMORANDUMS OF UNDERSTANDING IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO THAT AT THE NOVEMBER MEETING WE HAVE TO HAVE A ITEMIZED LIST OF WHAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY USE THE MONEY FOR BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT IN THERE AND IF IT'S NOT BID OUT WE HAVE THAT , WE CAN BRING UP A NEW PROJECT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU WANT TO SEND IT ON THE BUILDING. >> IF YOU HAVE TO ASSIGN TO EXISTING PROJECT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE VALUE OF THE MOU IS . IF YOU HAVE TO ASSIGN IT TO AN ALREADY ALLOCATED AND BID OUT PROJECT THEN JUST REALLOCATE. >> JUDGE IS TALKING ABOUT THE CONTRACT FLEXIBILITY. ANOTHER TOPIC. THE MOU, AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A CLEAR SCOPE OF WORK IN THE MOU AND YOU HAVE THE FUNDS THAT YOU'RE ALLOCATING TOWARD THE PROJECT, IT'S COUNTED. >> SO THAT'S THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION. >> I CAN USE IT FOR A NEW PROJECT THAT IT'S NOT SCOPED OUT FOR? >> BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. >> RIGHT, SO THEN I CAN USE IT FOR A PROJECT WITH SCOPE OF WORK BUT IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE BID OUT AND CONTRACTED. >> SHE TOLD US NO THE OTHER DAY. >> BRIGHT. >> YOU HELP WITH CONTRACTS WHEN WE CANNOT GO OUT FOR BID. >> THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE THAT YOU CAN DO IT LIKE AMANDA SAYS. >> COMMISSIONER EXAMPLE, REAL-WORLD EXAMPLE, WE WORKING ON THE JAIL OVER HERE ON THE JAIL ROOF COATING. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A ENGINEERING FIRM, HANSON. WE WILL BRING THE WORK AUTHORIZATION COME NOVEMBER. THEY ARE LOOKING AT IT NOW WITH A COST ESTIMATE , BUT IT'S GOING TO COST AND WE WILL DO THE WORK AUTHORIZATION IN NOVEMBER. WE WILL PUT IT ON THE LIST. >> THAT'S ALREADY PROJECT APPROVED. HE'S TALKING ABOUT A TOTALLY BRAND-NEW ONE. >> AMANDA SAYS I CAN DO A TOTALLY BRAND-NEW AND. THE MOU WOULD NOT MAKE SENSE TO EVEN HAVE IF YOU CANNOT DO A NEW PROJECT BECAUSE YOU ALLOCATE TO EXISTING. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING MAKES MORE SENSE. >> IT HAS TO BE IN THE MOU, CLEARLY DEFINED AND BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. >> FUNDING ALLOCATED? >> THE FUNDING HAS TO BE ALLOCATED. >> WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LEFTOVER FUNDS , YOU WILL NOT LOSE THEM, ON PROJECTS ALREADY PROJECTED. >> THAT'S FOR NEXT YEAR. >> THE KEY IS THE MONEY HAS TO [01:40:02] BE ALREADY ALLOCATED FOR A CERTAIN PROJECT THAT HAS NO CONTRACT. SO YOU CAN USE THOSE FUNDS TO CONTINUE FORWARD TO GET THE CONTRACT EVEN IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY. >> YES, THIS MOU WOULD TAKE PLACE OF A TRADITIONAL CONTRACT. >> IF YOU HAVE NO FUNDING FOR OVER AND YOU ARE ASSUMING I MIGHT HAVE MONEY IS WHAT HE SAYING. CAN YOU PUT A PROJECT ON THE LIST ? >> IF I HAVE A BRAND-NEW PROJECT WITH A SCOPE OF WORK THAT HAS NO CONTRACT, NOT BEEN ALLOCATED I CAN USE THIS FOR THIS. >> THE ALLOCATION PART YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME TO COURT AND ALLOCATE, BUT YES. >> YOU ONLY HAVE ONE MORE MEETING. >> WELL, BY THE END OF THE YEAR. I WILL DO IT BY NOVEMBER, BUT BY THE END OF THE YEAR WE COULD DO A BRAND-NEW PROJECT WITH LEFTOVER MONEY. HAVE THIS MOU AS LONG AS THERE IS SCOPE OF WORK. TELL ME WHAT THE SCOPE OF WORK NEEDS TO BE. WHAT IT IS DEFINED AS, HOW SPECIFIC DOES THAT NEED TO BE? I JUST NEED TO KNOW. >> VERY SPECIFIC. AS SPECIFIC AS POSSIBLE. >> I CAN SEND YOU SCOPE OF WORK AND YOU CAN SAY THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH. ABSOLUTELY GOT IT. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. ARE YOU SAYING ALL OF THE BALANCES, THE BALANCE OF A COMPLETED PROJECT INCREASING I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THEM BACK TO PRECINCT 1. CAN I DO THAT? >> IF YOUR PROJECT COMES UNDER THE BID? >> THERE IS MONIES , THERE IS MONIES THERE LEFTOVER. BROUGHT BACK TO PRECINCT 1. >> CAN I INTERJECT A LITTLE QUESTION PLEASE? IF THEY HAVE ALREADY ALLOCATED ALL OF THEIR MONEY , WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO ADD A PROJECT? YES. SO IN ESSENCE, OVER ALLOCATE MORE FUNDING SO EVERYTHING KIND OF FALLS OUT IN THE WASHER LATER. >> WE WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THAT. >> THAT GOES INTO NEXT YEAR, THE CONTRACT FLEXIBILITY YOU DO HAVE WHICH IS ON THE BACKUP ON PAGE 2 WHICH TALKS ABOUT WHEN AND WHERE YOU CAN MOVE THE MONEY. SO IF YOU HAVE A PROJECT NEXT YEAR THAT COMES IN UNDER, RIGHT, SO LET'S DO A SCENARIO REAL QUICK. IF YOU HAVE A PROJECT YOU OBLIGATED IN THE MOU, ALLOCATED AND OBLIGATED IN THE MOU. YOU GO OUT FOR BID AND THE PROJECT COMES IN UNDER BUDGET, YOU CAN THEN HAVE A CHANGE ORDER AND MOVE THAT MONEY. >> OR THE PROJECT FAILS AND DOES NOT MOVE FORWARD THE SAME SCENARIO YOU HAVE THE FULL FUND. >> WHAT IF NEXT YEAR THE PROJECT COMES IN WITHOUT MOU. IT IS EXISTING LIKE I'VE GOT THIS WITH A CONTRACT IT'S GOING PAST DECEMBER. LONDON DRAINAGE MAYBE PARKER PULL, ALLOCATED, BID AND CONTRACTED, WHAT HAPPENS IS A COMMAND WITHOUT A MOU, WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY COME IN UNDER VALUE NEXT YEAR? >> YOU CAN MOVE THE MONEY OBLIGATED TOWARD THE PROJECT TO SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT IT'S NEEDED. YOU JUST CANNOT CREATE A NEW PROJECT. >> THAT PARTICULAR SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD MEAN I HAVE TO ALLOCATE LONDON DRAINAGE EXTRA MONEY TO AN EXISTING PROJECT. >> THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. >> THAT WAS MY QUESTION ALSO. MY COMPLETED PROJECTS WITH LEFTOVER MONEY I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THEM BACK TO MY PRECINCT CAN I DO THAT? >> YOU JUST CANNOT CREATE A NEW PROJECT. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE TOWARD HILLTOP OR STONEGATE OR SOMETHING ALREADY CONTRACTED. >> THANK YOU. >> I WAS TOLD IN THE MEETING THAT WE DISCUSSED, IT COULD NOT BE LIKE SAY FOR EXAMPLE I WANTED TO USE EXTRA MONEY FOR A NEW SHADE STRUCTURE OR SOMETHING. IF IT WAS NOT PUT OUT THAT WAY IN THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT BID , YOU CANNOT ADD SOMETHING TOTALLY NEW JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE OVERAGE AND EXTRA FUNDS. IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING YOU HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED OR ALLOCATED IN THE MOU HAS TO STATE IT IN SCOPE OF WORK. CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. [01:45:04] >> BASICALLY, ALL FUNDS HAVE TO BE CONTRACTED EITHER IN MOU OR A CONTRACT. SO IF THE CONTRACT , YOU HAVE SIGNED AND EVERYTHING AND IT'S STARTING TO GO. MAYBE IT GOES OVER OR SOMETHING, THAT'S WHERE THE CONTINGENCY ON OTHER CONTRACT PROJECTS , YOU CAN MOVE IT OVER. IF IT WAS LESS THEN YOU HAVE EXTRA MONEY, BUT YOU CANNOT CREATE NEW PROJECTS OR AT TWO CONTRACTS ALREADY SIGNED. IT HAS TO BE ALL CONTRACTED. >> AS LONG AS THERE IS MONEY THERE I CAN ASK YOU I WANT TO USE IT FOR THIS AND TELL ME YES OR NO. >> WE CAN ASK. IT HAS TO BE OBLIGATED. >> SOMETHING ALREADY ON THE WORKS. >> ANY OF US WHO DON'T HAVE PROJECTS IN YOUR PRECINCT, IF YOU HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER WITH ANOTHER PROJECT AND IN THE COUNTY EVEN NOT IN YOURS AS LONG AS IT'S UNDER CONTRACT AND IT IS SHORT ON FUNDS YOU CAN ALLOCATE TO THE PROJECT AS WELL IF YOU CAN FIND A PLACE FOR IT IN YOUR OWN PRECINCT. YOU CAN'T EXPAND TO NEW SCOPE. >> ALSO COVERING ADDITIVES. WE HAVE SOME NICE SCREEN BOARDS IN THE BID AS PART OF IT THEY ARE ADDITIVES. >> ANYTHING WITH ALTERNATE OR ADDITIVES THAT HAVE GONE OUT FOR BID AND ALL OF A SUDDEN MONEY BECOMES AVAILABLE WE CAN ALLOCATE TO THAT PORTION , IT'S ALREADY GONE OUT WITH THE JOB. >> THE DRISCOLL, WE ORIGINALLY BID AND THEN WE CAN BRING THOSE BACK. >> WE WILL SEE HOW MUCH MONEY IS IN THERE. >> I'M AFRAID IT'S GOING TO BE THE OTHER WAY AROUND. >> WITH PERSONNEL WE WOULD LIKE TO DO AGREEMENT WITH HR BECAUSE WHAT IF, THE POSITION HAS TO BE FILLED BY THE END OF THE YEAR , BUT LET'S SAY THE PERSON LEAVES IN 2025 AND SOMEBODY ELSE COMES IN AND WE DON'T HIRE SOMEBODY ELSE. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THE FUNDS REMAINING TO ANOTHER PROJECT. >> THAT'S WHY WE THOUGHT THERE COULD BE THREE. MY OTHER QUESTION, IF WE ALLOCATE CERTAIN PROJECTS TO PUBLIC WORKS DOES THAT ELIMINATE? WE CAN DO SOMETHING ON THE IN THE PARKS OR SHOULD WE ADD THE PROJECTS TO BOTH? WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT? ANYTHING WE ARE THINKING ON THE MOU? >> THE WAY WE RECOMMEND MOU IS FOR THEM TO BE . I DO NOT REALIZE. >> THAT'S 600,000 DOES THAT ELIMINATE ANYTHING IN PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS OR WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL TO PUT THE MOU FOR BOTH OF THEM OR DO ONE THAT HAS ALL THREE? >> WE COULD HAVE SOME LANGUAGE IN THE MOU TO COVER THAT. THE WAY WE WERE RECOMMENDING IS FOR THEM TO BE DEPARTMENT SPECIFIC. JUST BECAUSE IF THAT'S THE WAY YOU HAVE SPLIT OUT THE PROJECTS, SO ONE MANAGES SOME AND EDWARD MANAGES OTHER PROJECTS. SELECT THE JAIL ROOF COATING IS UNDER EDWARD SO THAT WOULD BE UNDER HIS INMAN PARK MOU. WE COULD ADD LANGUAGE AND WORK WITH JENNY ON THAT. >> JUST THINKING WE DON'T WANT TO LIMIT OURSELVES, BUT OF THE FUNDING CAN GO SOMEWHERE. ANOTHER STRONG POINT WE PUT IN HERE IS WHEN YOU ALLOCATE TO THE DEPARTMENTS THE MOU, THE LIST OF PROJECTS STILL COMES TO THE COURT. THEY DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH THE MONEY WHEN IT BECOMES AVAILABLE OR SOMETHING. THAT IS STILL A COURT DECISION. >> EVERYTHING COMES BACK TO COURT ABSOLUTELY. THE IMPORTANT THING WE REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT HERE IS EVERYTHING MUST BE OBLIGATED BY THE END OF THE YEAR. EITHER BY MOU OR A CONTRACT. SO THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING. >> >> OKAY. EDWARD WAS ASKING ME TO GIVE YOU THE EXAMPLE OF PERSONNEL , IF THAT PERSON WAS TO LEAVE WITH ONLY [01:50:14] TWO MONTHS LEFT OF 2026, IT DOESN'T MAKE MUCH SENSE TO FILL IT FOR THIS LAST FEW MONTHS SO WE CAN PUT IN THE MOU SOME SCOPE THAT YOU CAN DO INSTEAD OF THE PERSONNEL POSITION. THAT IS A FLEXIBILITY THAT WE CAN WORK ON IN THE MOU. >> THAT WAS MY OTHER QUESTION. WHY I THOUGHT THEY SHOULD ALL BE UNDER ONE OR THE LANGUAGE IN THERE SO WE DON'T -- IT'S HARD TO FILL A POSITION FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS. IT'S HARD TO FILL A POSITION AND IT'S BEEN HARD TO FILL FOR SOME OF THESE OFFICES FOR EVEN TWO YEARS BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT'S A TEMPORARY POSITION AND NOT A FULL-TIME POSITION. I DID NOT WANT THAT SITTING OVER THERE AND US NOT BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE IT. >> SO YOU CAN MAKE THE SCOPE OF AN MOU AND OVERARCHING GOAL FOR THE DEPARTMENT. JESSICA HAS A GREAT EXAMPLE RIGHT NOW WITH ANOTHER CLIENT. BY THE WAY, MY TEAM IS HERE. JESSICA AND JASON ARE HERE JESSICA HAS A GREAT EXAMPLE WITH -- AND I MAY NOT DO A GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING IT -- BUT IT'S WITH A.D.A.'S OFFICE AND THEIR OVERARCHING GOAL IS TO BRING CASELOADS DOWN. SO THAT IS THERE MOU SCOPE. WE WANT TO BRING CASELOADS DOWN SO WE WILL DO THAT IN THESE DIFFERENT WAYS. WE WILL DO IT WITH PERSONNEL AND WE WILL ALSO DO IT WITH SOFTWARE, IF THE PERSONNEL DOES NOT WORK OUT . SO THAT IS HOW YOU CAN LAY IT OUT IN THE MOU, AND SHE'S DONE A GREAT JOB OF THAT. >> SO, DO WE NEED AN ACTION TO TAKE ON THIS OR JUST TO ADDRESS YOU ALL TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO WORK ON THESE MOUS? I WOULD ALSO STRONGLY ENCOURAGE OUR MEMBERS UP HERE IF YOU HAVE JOBS THAT YOU WANT TO INCLUDE , TO GET THAT LIST TOGETHER FOR OUR NEXT MEETING. MICHAEL, IF YOU COULD ON YOUR END, GET US ANY OF THE BID OUT PROJECTS THAT HAD ALTERNATES OR AMENDMENTS OR SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T GET FUNDED OR WE HAVE A LIST OF ANYTHING , QUITE POSSIBLY, THESE FUNDS COULD BE USED ON IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS MOVING FORWARD. DID YOU WANT SOMETHING? >> I WANTED TO ALSO ADD I THINK COASTAL PARKS HAD SOME EQUIPMENT THEY WANTED TO PURCHASE . IF THAT'S NOT PURCHASED BY DECEMBER, I WOULD RECOMMEND HAVING IT IN ONE OF THE AGREEMENTS. >> ABSOLUTELY . >> BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE. >> ANY DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE LISTENING, BY ALL MEANS, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING HOLDING ON IN YOUR DEPARTMENT, WE NEED THOSE MOVING FORWARD AND THEY NEED TO BE ON OUR LIST FOR THE NOVEMBER MEETING COMING UP. YES. >> EDWARD WAS JUST ASKING ME TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING FURTHER. SO, AND THIS IS AN IMPORTANT POINT -- WHEN YOU HAVE A PROJECT FOR PERSONNEL , THAT GOES UNDER A SPECIFIC EXPENDITURE CATEGORY. SO IF YOU ARE GOING -- IF YOU HAVE THE MONEY TOWARDS PERSONNEL, THEN COME IF YOU HAVE THAT MONEY TOWARDS A DIFFERENT PROJECT FOR SOFTWARE OR EQUIPMENT, AT THAT POINT , THAT WOULD BE MOVED INTO A DIFFERENT EXPENDITURE CATEGORY AND WE WOULD STILL NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ELIGIBLE IN THE MOU SO WE CAN'T JUST THROW ANYTHING AT THE WALL AND SEE IF IT STICKS? PAYMENT BY ALL MEANS. ANY OF THESE PROJECT THAT ANYONE AS ADDING OR TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE, THEY STILL NEED TO BE APPROVED AND ELIGIBLE , AND FOR THE RIGHT CATEGORY BECAUSE I KNOW THERE IS ONE CATEGORY THAT WE ARE GETTING UP THERE BUT WE WANT TO KEEP OUR LOST REVENUE OPEN FOR ANY OTHER INCIDENTS THAT WE QUITE POSSIBLY MIGHT NEED IN THE FUTURE. SO MAKE SURE YOU TALK TO GRANTWORKS OR ANYTHING BEFORE JUST SAYING THIS IS ON THE LIST. MAKE SURE IT'S APPROVED, JUST LIKE THE NORMAL PROCESS BUT WE HAVE A MONTH. LET'S GET BUSY ? >> CALL ME. MY CELL IS IN MY EMAIL IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. WE ARE EXTREMELY ACCESSIBLE. EMAIL US . OUR GOAL IS TO BE ACCESSIBLE FOR YOU GUYS SO PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. JESSICA, JASON, DID I MISS ANYTHING? NO? OKAY. ALL RIGHT ? >> ANY OF THE QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? ANYTHING? [17. Discuss and consider giving the County Judge the authority to approve payments until the next Commissioners Court November 13, 2024, and all related matters.] >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I DON'T THINK THERE IS AN ACTION WE NEED TO DO. JUST WORKING TO MOVE FORWARD. WE WILL SEE YOU IN NOVEMBER? >> TETE. >> THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 17. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER GIVING THE COUNTY JUDGE THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE PAYMENTS . >> SO MOVED. >> ONE MEETING IN NOVEMBER AND ONE IN DECEMBER . THIS WILL POSSIBLY BE PUT ON THE NOVEMBER MEETING FOR DECEMBER, AS WELL, UNLESS YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THAT [01:55:02] IN THIS ONE. >> JUDGE, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO BOTH MEETINGS SINCE THERE SUCH A GAP BETWEEN. I WOULD AMEND MY MOTION TO INCLUDE FOR THE MONTH BETWEEN NOVEMBER 13 AND THE DECEMBER MEETING, AS WELL. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY [18. Discuss and consider upcoming Commissioners Court meeting date(s), workshop date(s), and related matters.] OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. THE NEXT ITEM. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER UPCOMING COMMISSIONER COURT MEETINGS, WORKSHOPS AND RELATED MATTERS . ANY CHANGES? NOTHING? WITH THIS IN MIND , WITH SOME OF OUR ARPA STOP AND CONTRACTS AND THINGS THAT THEY COME THROUGH -- I KNOW MICHAEL IS DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB IN HIS OFFICE ABOUT GETTING THESE OUT, WE MIGHT BE FORCED TO ADD A ONE ITEM AGENDA MEETING TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THESE CONTRACTS FOR OUR BUCK, UNLESS WE GET EVERYTHING DONE IN NOVEMBER. JUST A HEADS UP. PEOPLE MAKE A LOT OF TRAVELING PLANS DURING THE HOLIDAYS OR SOMETHING. >> WHAT I WILL TRY TO DO TO MITIGATE THAT, IF POSSIBLE, IS IF I RUN INTO A SITUATION WHERE MAYBE THERE IS VALUE ENGINEERING THAT CAUSES US NOT TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT ON THAT NOVEMBER MEETING WE ARE MEETING FOR AND WE HAVE TO COME TO THE DECEMBER MEETING TO DO THAT , THAT WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE LANGUAGE IN THE ITEM THAT ALLOWS THE COURT TO APPROVE THE AWARD AND AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THAT AGREEMENT FOR A SET AMOUNT AND SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. WHAT THAT DOES IS ALLOW THE JUDGE TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT CONTRACT UP UNTIL DECEMBER 31 WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK TO COURT SO WE WILL TRY TO MITIGATE THAT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING IF WE CAN HELP IT. >> HOPEFULLY WE GET IT ALL DONE IN NOVEMBER. >> I WILL CERTAINLY BE AVAILABLE IF ANOTHER POPS UP. [1. Authorize the execution of an Interlocal Agreement by and between Nueces County and Texas A&M AgriLife Extension Service for the Feral Hog Abatement Program.] >> THANK YOU. >> IT CAN BE DONE IN DECEMBER TOO. >> ITEM B GRANTS. AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY AND TEXAS A&M AGRILIFE EXTENSION FOR THE FERAL HOG ABATEMENT PROGRAM. WE DO THAT EVERY YEAR. I MAKE A MOTION TO PASS. MR. GONZALES DID. COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ SECOND [2. Discuss and consider executing a maintenance contract for the FY25 Statewide Automated Victims Notification Service (SAVNS) between the Office of the Attorney General (OAG) and Nueces County for the Texas Victim Information and Notification Everyday (VINE) program in the amount of $26,747.95 with No Cash Match.] IT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES . ITEM NUMBER TWO. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER EXECUTING A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT FOR FISCAL YEAR '25 STATEWIDE AUTOMATED -- THIS IS ANNUAL. VICTIMS NOTIFICATIONS AND I HAVE A DOCK YOU SIGN. I BELIEVE I'M SUPPOSED TO SIGN >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MAREZ THIS TIME. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES? ANY OPPOSED. THE [1. Discuss and consider conditional selection of New Stout Excavation Group, Texas LLC for London Area Regional Retention Pond (IFB No. 3293-24); and related matters.] MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE . MICHAEL, AGAIN. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CONDITIONAL -- THERE'S A LOT OF THESE. CONDITIONAL SELECTION OF NEW STOUT EXCAVATION GROUP LLC FOR THE LONDON AREA REGIONAL RETENTION POND . WE DO THIS EVERY TIME. CONDITIONAL SELECTION. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS. >> SECOND . >> A MOTION AND SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> THIS WOULD INCLUDE ADDITIVE TWO. >> CORRECT. WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THERE ARE DETAILS TO WORK OUT ON THE NUMBER OF LOADS THAT ARE TAKEN OFF THE SITE AND WHAT THE PRICING WOULD BE PICKED THAT WILL BE WORKED OUT WHEN WE COME BACK TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT. >> AN EXAMPLE IN THESE ALTERNATES. YES. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE [2. Discuss and consider conditional selection of LINEV Systems US, Inc. for Digital Forensic Body Scanner (IFB No. 3297-24) for the Medical Examiner in the amount of $358,811.25 to be funded by Medical Examiner’s Office Equipment / Furniture ARPA Funds (Project No. 21341801).] MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER TWO. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CONDITIONAL SELECTION FOR LI NEV SYSTEMS U.S. FOR DIGITAL FORENSIC BODY SCANNER >> SCAMMER. SCANNER, NOT A SCAMMER. EXCUSE ME. AND THE AMOUNT ON HERE WAS INCORRECT . INSTEAD OF $358,000, IS $398,000. SOMEONE INCORRECTLY PUT THE NUMBER. >> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CORRECT AMOUNT . >> AND THIS IS ARPA FUNDED? SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE [3. Discuss and consider conditional selection of Kocurek Land Improvement, Inc. for Stonegate Drainage Improvement Project (IFB No. 3292-24); and related matters.] IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER THREE PICK DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CONDITIONAL SELECTION OF CONCERT GLAND IMPROVEMENT FOR STONEGATE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AND THIS IS YOURS, COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ? >> I MOVE WE GO AHEAD. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> I WOULD STATE THE BASE BID AMOUNT WAS $364,437 AND ATTITUDE IS $57,500 FOR A TOTAL OF $421 -- >> $421,937. [02:00:05] >> ON ITEM NUMBER THREE WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. OKAY. THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER [4. Discuss and consider conditional selection of STBP, Inc. dba South Texas Building Partners for New Driscoll Community Center (IFB No. 3295-24); and related matters.] FOUR PICK DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CONDITIONAL SELECTION OF STBP DBA SOUTH BUSINESS BUILDING PARTNERS FOR NEW DRISCOLL COMMUNITY CENTER. >> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> THIS IS FOR THE BASE BID AMOUNT OF $1,145,000? >> AND THIS IS ARPA FUNDED? >> YES, SIR. >> TETE. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY [5. Discuss and consider conditional selection of Designs That Compute dba Visionality for Commissioners Court Room – Audio/Video Conferencing Equipment (RFP No. 3298-24); and related matters.] OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES . ITEM NUMBER FIVE. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CONDITIONAL SELECTION OF DESIGNS THAT COMPUTE DBA VISIONALITY FOR COMMISSIONERS COURT ROOM AND THIS IS A COUNTYWIDE ARPA -RELATED FUNDS TO UPDATE OUR AUDIO/VISUAL STUFF >> THIS IS VISIONALITY IS THE COMPANY AND THIS WAS A PROPOSAL. WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THIS GOT VERY COMPLEX ELEMENTS GOING ON WITHIN IT. DARRELL WILL WORK OUT THE DETAILS AND COME BACK TO COURT WITH A CONTRACT AND A FINAL AMOUNT. >> A MOTION TO PASS. >> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND SECOND. ANY [6. Discuss and consider conditional selection of Progressive Structures, Inc. for Animal Care Center (CSP No. 3283-24); and related matters.] OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES . ITEM NUMBER SIX. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CONDITIONAL SELECTION OF PROGRESSIVE STRUCTURES FOR THE ANIMAL CARE FACILITY CENTER. THIS IS -- >> CONDITIONAL SELECT THE LOWEST AND BEST BID FROM PROGRESSIVE STRUCTURES . THE BASE BID WAS $3,136,000 THERE IS AN ALTERNATE ONE FOR $100,000 AND AN ALTERNATE TWO FOR $33,000. AND THE LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION FROM SHELTER PLANNERS OF AMERICA SUPPORTS THE RECOMMENDATION . PUBLIC WORKS RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. >> THIS INCLUDES EVERYTHING? >> WE HAVE THE FUNDING FOR ALL OF IT? >> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER AT THIS POINT THAT I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT'S WHAT THE BID AMOUNTS WERE. I WILL COME BACK WITH THE FINAL AMOUNTS. >> BUT ALL THE OFFERS ARE INCLUDED? ARE YOU DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER YET? >> I GAVE YOU THE NUMBERS. >> WE HAVE THE BASE BID AMOUNT. THAT'S IN THE BUDGET. >> OKAY. >> YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION? >> SO MOVED. >> GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ SECOND . ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. I THINK THAT'S ALL. >> THANK YOU, AGAIN, TO JENNY'S OFFICE FOR OTHER WORK THEY DO TO HELP US GET THESE THINGS READY. THANK YOU IN MY OFFICE TO JASON PARKER, CHERYL AND MELINDA. MELINDA HAS DONE A GREAT JOB LEARNING OUR NEW PROCESSES AND GETTING THESE BIDS OUT QUICKLY. THANK YOU TO MY STAFF. >> THANK YOU. [3. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving the sole source purchase with Superion, LLC, a CentralSquare Company, Inc, for ONESolution maintenance renewal of the ONESolution financial system for Nueces County Auditor's Office in the amount $62,999.60.] >> MOVING ON TO THE AUDITOR. ITEM D 3. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE SOLE-SOURCE PURCHASE WAS SUPERIOR, LLC FOR CENTRAL SQUARE COMPANY FOR ONE SOLUTION MAINTENANCE RENEWAL OF THE ONE SOLUTION FINANCIAL SYSTEM FOR NUECES COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE IN THE AMOUNT -- I HAVE A QUESTION -- >> I HAVE A QUESTION ALSO. >> GO AHEAD. I THOUGHT WE DID THIS LAST YEAR FOR THE ANNUAL THING AND IT WOULD NOT COME UP UNTIL JUNE . >> WE ONLY DID SIX MONTHS. >> WE ONLY DID SIX MONTHS. I KNOW WE DID IT WHEN WE SAID WE COULD CANCEL AT ANY TIME AND THEY WOULD REIMBURSE US WHAT WE DIDN'T USE. >> THAT IS EXACTLY TIME. >> ABOUT THIS WAS ONE SOLUTION TO PEER EXECUTIVE WORKS WITH ONE SOLUTION. THAT'S THE SAME THING AND WE WILL BRING THAT BACK NEXT COURT. >> THIS ONE IS FOR A YEAR? >> WE GET THE REIMBURSEMENT FOR WHENEVER WE CANCEL IT. THIS IS ONE SOLUTION. THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM THAT WE USE . BY THE END OF THIS SIX-MONTH EXTENSION, WE WILL HAVE COMPLETED OUR ANNUAL FINANCIAL AUDIT FOR THE TIME PERIOD THAT OVERLAPPED. I'M HOPING THAT SOME OF THE ONGOING DEPARTMENTS , OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY UTILIZING ONESOLUTION WELL DOES >> AND THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO CONTINUE IT SO WE ARE WAITING UNTIL THEY ARE COMPLETED WITH US. >> -- WAITING FOR ONGOING INVESTIGATIONS TO COMPLETE. >> I HAD THE SAME QUESTION BUT I UNDERSTOOD THAT ONCE WE PUT ONESOLUTION AWAY WE CAME BACK WITH A NEW WENT AND IT WOULD NOT WORK UNTIL WE BROUGHT BACK [02:05:05] ONESOLUTION AND I THOUGHT IT WAS FOR THE WHOLE YEAR. SO THIS $62,000, IS IT A NEW COST AND WEARS A COMING FROM? >> SO, WHAT HAPPENED WAS, AGAIN, WHEN WE CONVERTED TO WORKDAY WE EXPECTED TO LEAVE ONESOLUTION AND CONVERT TO WORKDAY AND GO 100. AND THAT WAS THE PLAN. THAT'S WHAT WE WORKED OUT WITH I.T. WE HAD PROCESSES IN PLACE TO DO THAT. AND THEN UNFORESEEN EVENTS TOOK PLACE . >> I WAS TOLD THE STUFF DID NOT TRANSFER TO THE NEW SYSTEM IS WHY WE HAD TO KEEP IT OR SHOULD'VE AUTOMATICALLY TRANSFERRED TO WORKDAY. >> TWO QUESTIONS. ONESOLUTION, WHEN WE STOPPED USING IT WAS MONEY LEFT OVER. WHEN WE GOT THE NEW ONE, ONE WE HAD ALL THE PROBLEMS WITH AND THE BUDGET WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING -- THE NEW SOFTWARE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WHAT IS IT? >> WORKDAY. >> YEAH. SO WITH WORKDAY WE WERE HAVING TROUBLE AND WE BROUGHT BACK 133 AGAIN? >> WE ARE NOT IN ONESOLUTION. WE HAVEN'T PUT ANY NEW DATA INTO ONESOLUTION SINCE 12/31/23. THAT WAS THE LAST TIME ANY NEW INFORMATION -- >> SO WHERE'S THE $62,000 COMING FROM. >> THIS IS JUST FOR ACCESS TO OUR OLD DATA . >> WHERE IS IT COMING FROM? >> I HAD THE FORESIGHT WHENEVER WE WERE DOING OUR BUDGET, BECAUSE I KNEW OF THE ONGOING ISSUES -- I INCLUDED IT IN THE BUDGET REQUEST SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE FUNDING WITHIN THE BUDGET FOR THIS EXPENSE . I PLANNED AHEAD BECAUSE IT WAS REASONABLE TO ASSUME THAT THE INVESTIGATIONS WOULD CONTINUE >> THE INVESTIGATION IS ONGOING SO WE HAVE TO KEEP IT PICK >> WE PLANNED AHEAD AS HE PUT THIS MONEY THERE . >> I PLANNED AHEAD, YES, SIR. >> DID WE APPROVE THAT AT THAT TIME? >> YOU APPROVED IT WITH THE BUDGET. YES, SIR. >> OKAY. >> WE DID WITH THE BUDGET AND IT WAS PRESENTED , BUT THEY NEED THIS INFORMATION WITH THE INVESTIGATION. THEY'RE TELLING US THEY HAVE TO KEEP IT. >> THE MONEY IS ALREADY THERE SO WE DON'T NEED ADDITIONAL MONEY. >> YES. THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL COST FOR IT. IT'S ALREADY BUDGETED. THERE IS A COST BUT IT'S BUDGETED. >> IT'S ALREADY BUDGETED, YES. >> ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT NEW. >> IS THERE ANY MISTAKES WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT OR THE LAST TIME YOU HAD --'S PAYMENT THE MONTHLY FINANCIAL? >> THE DISCLAIMER. >> THE DISCLAIMER WAS ADDED AT THE REQUEST OF THE COUNTY CLERK. SHE WANTED A SHEET ON THE FRONT PAGE, BUT IT WAS ALREADY ON THE TITLE SHEET SO WE ARE GOING TO PULL THE DISCLAIMER. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A NEW -- >> THAT'S NOT ON THIS ONE. NOT THE ITEM WE ARE DISCUSSING . >> THAT WAS THE ITEM WE TABLED, >> SHE'S BRINGING THAT TO NOVEMBER. >> YES. THAT WILL BE BACK IN NOVEMBER. BUT FOR THIS ONE DOES >> THIS IS OLD INFORMATION WE JUST DON'T WANT TO LOSE ACCESS TO AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WITH THESE NEW PROCESSES AND WITH THESE NEW SERVERS AND THINGS WE USE , I THOUGHT IT WAS OURS TO BEGIN WITH AND WE HAVE TO PAY THIS MONTHLY FEE TO HAVE ACCESS TO OUR INFORMATION THAT WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING NEW ON. THIS IS OLD INFORMATION THAT WE JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE PICK >> THE PREVIOUS DIRECTORS OF I.T. DID NOT WANT TO HOUSE THE SERVERS HERE AND SO WE HOUSE THE SERVERS IN LAS VEGAS AND THIS IS THE FEED TO KEEP THE DATA ON THOSE SERVERS . IT'S ACTUALLY DOES >> MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE I.T. SHOW IS A PRESENTATION ON WHAT THE CHANGE WOULD BE IF WE HAVE SET OURSELVES. WITH THE AMOUNTS WE ARE PAYING TO GET ACCESS TO OUR OWN INFORMATION IS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL. YES? THAT'S NOT AN ANSWER FOR YOU. I UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT YOUR DEPARTMENT BUT I THINK THAT SOMETHING WE DO MAY BE NEED TO ASK DARRELL ABOUT. I KNOW IT WAS HERE AND WAS KIND OF HARD WHEN HE WALKED OUT OF THE DOOR TO THROW HIM UNDER THE BUS . SORRY. >> WE DID BRAINSTORM IDEAS ON WAYS TO POTENTIALLY REDUCE THE COSTS FOR THIS BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY A MUCH LOWER COST THAN IT WOULD'VE BEEN BECAUSE WERE NOT ADDING NEW INFORMATION . >> -- I MAKE THE MOTION TO [02:10:04] SPEND THE $62,000 TO KEEP ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE ALREADY BUDGETED COMING OUT OF THE AUDITORS BUDGET. YES. DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BRING UP OTHER THAN EXECUTIVE SESSION STUFF? I THINK WE ARE STILL NOT READY ON NUMBER 10 , BUT I DO HAVE AN EMAIL CHAIN HERE FROM FRIDAY, AUGUST 16 , WHERE THESE CHARTS AND THIS APPORTIONMENT WAS SENT TO THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE FOR APPROVAL. I KNOW I ASKED HER TO DO IT BECAUSE SHE WAS NEW AT DOING THIS AND I DID NOT WANT HER TAKING OVER DOING [4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.] SOMETHING. >> YOU MAY BE RIGHT BASED ON WHAT SHE SAID AND DEPENDING ON HOW WE LOOK AT IT SO IT MAY ALL BE CORRECT BUT WE JUST NEED TO VERIFY IT. >> SO, MOVING INTO EXECUTIVE. I GUESS WE ARE READY TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE . ITEM NUMBER FOUR. EXECUTIVE SESSION. PUBLIC NOTICE IS GIVEN THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY ELECT TO GO INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ANYTIME DURING THE MEETING TO DISCUSS MATTERS LISTED ANYWHERE ON THE AGENDA WHEN AUTHORIZED BY THE PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. TO THE EXTENT THERE HAS BEEN A PAST PRACTICE OF DISTINGUISHING ITEMS FOR PUBLIC DELIBERATION AND THOSE FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE PUBLIC IS ADVISED THAT THE COURT IS DEPARTING FROM THAT PRACTICE AND RESERVES THE RIGHT TO DISCUSS ANY LISTED AGENDA ITEMS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION WHEN AUTHORIZED BY LAW TO DO SO. IN THE EVENT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT ELECTS TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION REGARDING AN AGENDA ITEM, THE SECTION OR SECTIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE, BURDENS TEXAS CODES, SECTION 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551 POINT 086, 551.087 , THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL HOLD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH THE ATTORNEYS INCLUDING MATTERS RELATED TO LITIGATION, DELIBERATE REGARDING REAL PROPERTY PERSPECTIVE GUESS, PERSONNEL MATTERS, INCLUDING TERMINATION, COUNTY ADVISORY BODIES, SECURITY DEVICES, AND/OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND OTHER MATTERS THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. UPON COMPLETION OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY IN AN OPEN SESSION TAKE SUCH ACTION AS APPROPRIATE ON ITEMS DISCUSSED IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. TODAY ITEM A POINT CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND OUTSIDE COUNSEL IN REGARDS TO THE CORPUS CHRISTI PALMERS TAX ABATEMENT AGREEMENT. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER TAKING ACTION ON THE SAME DURING THE REGULAR MEETING AND ALL RELATED MATTERS . TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071. ITEM B PEER CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND OUTSIDE COUNSEL REGARDING LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO A TRIAL COURT CAUSE NUMBER 4704, NUECES COUNTY, TEXAS AND NUECES COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT VERSUS SAN PATRICIO COUNTY, TEXAS, IN THE 135TH JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT , REFUGIO COUNTY, TEXAS, AND RELATED MATTERS TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071. DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON REGULAR SESSION IF NEEDED. ITEM C. DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION, ASSIGNMENT, DUTIES, DISCIPLINE OR DISMISSAL OF THE SPECIAL ADVISER TO THE COUNTY LIBRARY AND TAKE ACTION IN OPEN SESSION IF NEEDED. TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.074. ITEM 3A 1, WE ASKED TO BRING IN TO EXECUTIVE FOR A LEGAL QUESTION IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE APPROVAL OF THE ESCROW AMENDMENT CONDITIONS LETTER AGREEMENT DOING NUECES COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND CRISP SPOHN HEALTH SYSTEM PICK THAT I'M ASSUMING WOULD BE 551.071, AS WELL. >> YES PICK >> ITEM 3A'S 2 IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING EXECUTION OF SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER ONE TO THE AGREEMENT WITH MCGRIFF INSURANCE SERVICES FOR EMPLOYEE BENEFITS AND CONSULTING SERVICES. TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071, AS WELL ON THAT ONE. IT IS -- IF THAT'S ALL WERE BRINGING IN -- YES. IT IS 11:24 AND WE ARE GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE WILL BE BACK IN A WI >> ARE WE READY, GUYS? EVERY BUDDY HERE? IT IS 1:46 AND WE [02:15:04] ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. ALL THE MEMBERS ARE STILL PRESENT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE CARE OF THE STUFF WE WENT . FIRST ON EXECUTIVE ITEM 4C , OUR LIBRARY AND HAS RUN OUT OF ACCESSED TO FURTHER PAID LEAVE. THE COURT HAS CONTINUED HER EMPLOYMENT WITH THE COUNTY OUT OF RESPECT FOR HER LONG YEARS AND DEDICATED SERVICE AND WE THANK HER AND WISH HER WELL AS SHE CONCLUDES HER EMPLOYMENT AT THIS TIME WITH NUECES COUNTY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. >> I. >> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. ITEM 3A.1, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY YOU HAVE A MOTION? >> I MOTION TO TABLE THAT UNTIL THE NOVEMBER 13 MEETING. AND TO BE PUT ON THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, AS WELL. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. ITEM 3A.2, COMMISSIONER MAREZ I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A MOTION? >> YES, JUDGE. I HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. DECEMBER 11. NOT THE NEXT ONE. THE SECOND MEETING, DECEMBER 11. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. GOING BACK TO 3A.10, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE CORRECTED VERSIONS ON THE APPORTIONMENT PROCESS AND THE COUNTY CLERK WAS IN THERE AND YOU DECIDED THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND DEMOCRATIC PARTY, HAVE THEY BEEN NOTIFIED? ARE THEY FINE WITH THIS? >> WE HAVE NOT REACHED OUT TO THE PARTIES. I WAS DOUBLE CHECKING. I HAD THE WRONG VOTING PRECINCT NUMBER ASSIGNED TO 2 SO THAT IS AN -- THAT'S GOING TO BE PRECINCT 1. IT'S GOT THE REVISED APPORTIONMENT NUMBERS . >> AND THERE WAS ONE OF THE CORRECTION AND PRECINCT 4? >> PRECINCT 4, THE CALVARY, I'M NOT SURE WHY I HAVE THAT ONE. THAT ONE IS JUST A TYPO ON MY PART SO THAT ONE IS NOW, CALVARY IS GOING TO BE IN COMMISSIONER CHESNEY 'S PRECINCT BUT THAT DOES LEAVE YOU GUYS WITH -- SO NOW WITH THE UPDATED NUMBERS, COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, WE WILL NEED TO CHANGE ONE OF THE LOCATIONS WITH THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDING JUDGE TO A DEMOCRAT AND I BELIEVE TG ALAN? AND ANNABELLE BAPTIST WOULD BE -- PRESIDING JUDGE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE BAPTIST CHURCH WILL BE REPUBLICAN. >> IS THAT WHAT WE DO? >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE TO MAKE MOTIONS NECESSARILY BUT WE FOLLOW YOUR GUIDANCE AS FAR AS HOW IT'S GOING TO BE DIVVIED UP. >> SO ANA VILLE BAPTIST CHURCH IS REPUBLICAN BECAUSE IT WASN'T DEMOCRAT? >> HIS NUMBERS, BEFORE HE HAD 20 VOTES ENTERED AND HAD 8 OF THEM REPUBLICAN AND 12 DEMOCRAT. NOW HE HAS 21 AND IT IS 8 REPUBLICAN, 13 DEMOCRAT OFF THE PERCENTAGES FROM 2022. >> DON'T WE JUST NEED TO ACCEPT THIS INSTEAD OF -- >> INSTEAD OF MAKING MOTIONS? >> ONLY JUST -- I MEAN, YOU CAN. JUST THE ONES THAT MOVED AROUND . >> WHAT WE CAN MAKE A MOTION IS TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL AS AMENDED WITH THE PROPOSED REVISION. >> INSTEAD OF EACH INDIVIDUAL ONE. >> DOES THAT HAVE THE CHANGES IN IT? >> THE REVISIONS THAT WERE SENT, FOR EXAMPLE THE BAPTIST CHURCH DOES NOT HAVE A RECOMMENDED PRESIDING JUDGE HAS REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT SO WE WOULD NEED GUIDANCE ON THAT FOR ANNAVILLE BAPTIST CHURCH AS WELL AS THE CAVALRY. >> IT WAS REPUBLICAN IN THE OTHER INSTANCE. >> WHAT ABOUT BANQUETE? >> WE WOULD CHANGE THAT TO DEMOCRAT. >> IT'S R RIGHT NOW. [02:20:05] >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ HAVE TO HAVE 8 REPUBLICAN LOCATIONS AND 13 DEMOCRAT SO THAT ANNAVILLE BAPTIST CAN BE REPUBLICAN. >> THAT'S WHY HE'S SWITCHING. THAT MAKE SENSE. >> I HAVE A SIMILAR SITUATION IN MY PRECINCT. >> SO THE ANNAVILLE BAPTIST JUDGE NEEDS TO BE A DEMOCRAT? >> NO , IN ORDER FOR THE PRESIDING JUDGE AT ANNAVILLE BAPTIST TO BE REPUBLICAN HE WOULD TECHNICALLY BE AT NINE REPUBLICAN VOTE CENTERS AND THE APPORTIONMENT, HE'S ONLY SUPPOSED TO HAVE 8 SO THAT'S WHY HE WAS CHANGING BANQUETE TO DEMOCRAT FROM -- FROM REPUBLICAN TO DEMOCRAT, SO THAT IT FOLLOWS THE APPORTIONMENT. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? >> OKAY. -- >> WE COULD DO ONE OF THE OTHERS IF YOU WANT TO TWO. YOU ARE JUST SUGGESTING? >> NO, COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ TALKED WITH-- AND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, SINCE CAVALRY WAS MOVED TO PRECINCT 4 , OR NOT MOVED BUT HAD BEEN INCORRECTLY PUT UNDER PRECINCT 2 , YOU NEED TO HAVE SIX REPUBLICAN PRESIDING JUDGES , 10 DEMOCRAT . AND ON THE LIST AS IT STANDS WE HAVE THAT YOU HAVE FIVE REPUBLICAN . >> WE HAVE TO CHANGE ONE. >> SO WE WILL NEED TO CHANGE ONE OF THEM. >> SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH SHOULD BE FINE. >> IT'S ALREADY R. SORRY. GLOVE ESTATES WILL BE FINE. >> SO YOU'RE CHANGING CLOVIS STATES TO R AND BANQUETE TO D? THAT WOULD BE AMENDMENTS TO THE FIRST MOTION THAT I MADE. >> ANYTHING ON 3? >> YES, THANKS, JUDGE. >> SO PRECINCT 3 THE NEW BREAKOUT WILL BE 4 REPUBLICAN LOCATIONS, 11 DEMOCRAT . >> YOU HAVE TO CHANGE ONE OF YOUR DEMOCRATIC PRECINCTS TO REPUBLICAN. ONE OF YOUR LOCATIONS. >> WE SAID PARTLY PRESBYTERIAN? >> WE SURE DID, YES, SIR. AND THEN COMMISSIONER CHESNEY , YOUR CAVALRY WAS REPUBLICAN BEFORE AND YOU ONLY HAVE ONE DEMOCRATIC POLLING PLACE SO IT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO BE REPUBLICAN. >> I THOUGHT CAVALRY WAS R? >> IT WAS BEFORE. >> THE COLLEGE? >> IT IS STILL IN THEIR. >> SO THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN CHANGE. >> YES, YOU ALREADY HAVE 12 IN 1. SO JUST THE FIRST THREE. >> I GUESS MY MOTION WOULD BE TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSED REVISED VERSION WITH THE AMENDMENTS OF BANQUETE BECOMING A D AND CLOVIS STATES BECOMING R, AND PARTLY PRESBYTERIAN BECOMING R. THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION. >> DO WE NEED TO ALSO ADD, OR IS THIS THE TIME TO MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS FOR THE PRESIDING JUDGES OR IS THAT ON-- >> LIKE THE ACTUAL WHO'S GOING TO SERVE? IT'S PART OF THAT AGENDA ITEM BUT WE DON'T NEED TO ASSIGN IT. >> I HAVE ONE NAME GIVEN TO ME AND WASN'T SURE IF I NEEDED TO INTRODUCE THAT HERE OR TO SEND IT TO YOU. >> I GUESS IT WOULD BE INCLUDED FOR THE COURT AS A WHOLE , APPROVAL. >> LET ME ADD THE NAME. IT'S ANNAVILLE BAPTIST -- TADILLO PENA JR. WHICH WOULD BE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDING JUDGE . AND I THINK AT LEAST THE DEMOCRATS WERE PROBABLY LACKING ON SOME SO THAT WAS A NAME GIVEN TO ME THAT I HAVEN'T VETTED. IT WAS JUST SHARED TO ME, SO I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR US. >> THE OTHER THING WE WILL NEED A MOTION ON IS LIMITING SETTING THE MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM FOR EACH OF THESE VOTING LOCATIONS TO, I AM ASSUMING, THE SMALLER VOTE CENTERS WHERE THEY HAVE LESS PEOPLE, MINIMUM BEING 2, AND I WOULD SAY THE MAXIMUM ARE REALLY THE LARGE CENTERS BEING 6 MAXIMUM. DO YOU ACCEPT THAT AS YOUR AMENDMENT , COMMISSIONER, TO YOUR MOTION? >> TELL ME THAT WARMER TIME. >> WE HAVE TO SET A MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM, SETTING THE MINIMUM TO 2 JUDGES -- [02:25:03] >> FOR THE ELECTION CLERKS AS A PRESIDING JUDGE, ALTERNATE JUDGE AND THEN TWO ELECTION EMPLOYEES. >> AND REMEMBER WE HAVE TO PAY THESE PEOPLE. >> THOUGHT WE ALREADY DID THAT >> WE DIDN'T SET THE NUMBER OF JUDGES. >> WE WERE TOLD THIS WAS PART OF OUR ACTION BY THE COUNTY CLERK TODAY THAT WE NEEDED THIS SET IN HERE . >> SURE. I'LL ACCEPT THAT . >> AND IT WAS SUGGESTED 2 AT THE LOWER TURNOUT PLACES IN 6 MAXIMUM AT SOME OF OUR HIGH TURNOUT PLACES IS A STANDARD, IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ DID YOU SECOND THAT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER ACTIONS OR MOTIONS. IF YOU ARE HERE WAITING ON AN ACTION WE PROBABLY DIRECTED SOMEONE TO CONTACT AND BRING THAT TO US, SO SORRY ABOUT THAT. WE DID THAT. WE POSTPONED TO THE NEXT MEETING , THE 13TH, YES. PLEASE CHECK ME IF [ Adjournment in Memory (upon request)] THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE I CLOSE, GUYS. BUT I THINK THAT'S IT. DO WE HAVE ANY ADJOURNMENTS IN MEMORY? BLESS YOU. ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADJOURNMENTS IN MEMORY? >> NO MA'AM . >> DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT TODAY. IT IS 1:57 AND I * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.