[F. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]

>> LIVING ON TO ITEM F PUBLIC COMMENT. FIRST UP I HAVE TONY REYES, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES, UNDERSTAND, EVERYONE WE CANNOT

COMMENT BACK. >> I AM TONY REYES, I LIVE AT 5905 HARVEST HILL IN CORPUS CHRISTI TEXAS GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE FIRST OF ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THE STAFF HAS DONE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HELPED MANY, MANY PEOPLE. I ALSO WANT TO THANK JANICE FOR THE COMMUNITY MEETING SHE HAS PUT TOGETHER TO INFORM OTHER AGENCIES . WHAT I'M HERE FOR, A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT CARES FOR INDIVIDUALS LIVING IN POVERTY AND ALSO OUR COMMUNITY BY CONNECTING THEM WITH KEY RESOURCES TO FACILITATE THE JOURNEY. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE

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DEDICATION TO THE WELL-BEING OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS. WE BELIEVE THAT BY JOINING FORCES WE CAN CREATE MEANINGFUL AND LASTING CHANGES IN THE LIVES OF THOSE WHO NEED THE MOST. I KNOW YOU HAVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND DECISIONS YOU'D BE MAKING FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS. HERE ARE SOME OPTIONS, IT IS TO DIRECT THE COUNTY CLIENT TO A DIFFERENT AGENCY THAT WILL PAY FOR SPECIFIC NEED, ONE AGENCY CAN PAY RENTAL ASSISTANCE OR PAY WATER BILLS . WE ALREADY HAVE THAT ONGOING SERVICE. WE SUGGEST SENDING A COMMUNITY BOOK THAT LISTS ALL RESOURCES THAT CAN HELP THEM WITH SPECIFIC NEEDS THAN THEY MAY BE FACING. SO THAT IS ONE OPTION. SECOND OPTION IS WE ENCOURAGE WHATEVER AGENCY IS SELECTED TO HELP WITH SPECIFIC NEED TO BE ENROLLED WITH A FIRM CALLED UNITAS. THIS IS TO MAP AMTRAK THE CLIENT TO DIFFERENT RESOURCES THEY ARE GETTING HELP WITH. AND THEN RAISING AWARENESS ABOUT POVERTY IS CRUCIAL. MISSION 911 WILL BE WILLING TO DECREASE YOUR COST AND DELIVER THE OUTCOMES CLIENTS NEED. WE CAN WORK TOGETHER WITH GRANTS. WE ARE EAGER TO DISCUSS THESE OPPORTUNITIES FURTHER TO MAKE POSITIVE IMPACT IN THE COASTAL BEND. AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> A MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, ADDRESS 3714 TOPEKA STREET. I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT AN AGENDA ITEM THAT IS LISTED THAT WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER GONZALES WHICH I THANK HIM FOR, I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST BEGIN, I WAS BEFORE YOU ALL SUPPORTING THE SOCIAL SERVICES AND RECOGNITION AND AFTER SUPPORTING THEM I ASKED AND TALKED ABOUT WHAT A CATASTROPHE, AND IT IS A CATASTROPHE SOME MAY SAY THAT IS A VERY STRONG WORD BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A CATASTROPHE FOR OUR COMMUNITY IF THE SOCIAL SERVICE DOES REMAIN CLOSE. I WAS TOLD THAT'S NOT BEING CONSIDERED, IT'S NOT AN AGENDA ITEM TODAY. ON APRIL 10TH, YOU ALL MADE A DECISION TO CLOSE THE DEPARTMENT . NEEDLESS TO SAY IT IS VERY DISAPPOINTING, I HAD TRUST AND HONESTY AND INTEGRITY AND THE TRANSPARENCY OF THIS COURT. FROM THAT POINT I RALLIED BECAUSE AS A LICENSED SOCIAL WORKER, THAT IS MY JOB, THAT IS MY BELIEF, THAT IS MY LIFE MISSION IS TO RALLY PEOPLE TO HELP OTHERS SO I DID CONVENE A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH ALL OF THE AGENCIES ESPECIALLY THOSE WITH BASIC NEEDS THAT PROVIDE BASIC NEEDS OR SEEMS TO BE AN IMPRESSION FROM THIS COURT THAT FIVE, SIX, SEVEN AGENCIES ARE GOING TO STEP UP, AND CERTAINLY NOT THE CASE. YOU WILL HEAR FROM SOME OF THE OTHER AGENCIES HERE TODAY THAT PROVIDE BASIC NEEDS SUPPORT. I GAVE YOU THE OUTLINE OF THOSE AGENCIES, JANUARY 1ST TO JULY 25TH, WE HAVE REFERRED MANY INDIVIDUALS TO SOCIAL SERVICES.

OVERALL EACH YEAR WE REFER CLOSE TO 3000. SO, WHERE THOSE 3000 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET HELP, IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE UNMET NEED. HE HAS LIMITED STAFF, I THINK A STAFF OF FIVE, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY COULD HANDLE TWO TO 300 APPOINTMENTS PER MONTH TO ASSIST WITH BASIC NEEDS. THE OTHER NONPROFITS THAT YOU WILL HEAR FROM, THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR

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THAT EITHER. YOU DON'T GET A STAFF MEMBER WHEN YOU GET A GRANT AWARDED IN INDIRECT COSTS. WHAT WE RELIED ON FOR 30 OR 40 YEARS IS THAT THE COUNTY ALWAYS HAD SOCIAL SERVICE DEPARTMENT AND STAFF, STAFF OF 12 TO HANDLE THOSE APPOINTMENTS AND BASIC NEEDS AND OUR CONCERN IS, IF YOU DON'T VOTE TO REINSTATE IT WHICH IS MY ASKED TODAY, IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET WORSE IN OUR COMMUNITY, THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING , THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. I LIVE AT 6714 SAHARA DRIVE. I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS WILL MEAN IF THIS DEPARTMENT FULLY CLOSES. METRO MINISTRIES A SERVICE THE COMMUNITY MORE THAN 40 YEARS. WE FEED, WE SHELTER, WE HOUSE, WE HEAL BUT I KNOW THAT NOT ONE AGENCY CAN DO EVERYTHING FOR ALL OF THE MOST VULNERABLE IN THE COMMUNITY. I WISH WE COULD. AND I WOULD ECHO REBECCA'S SENTIMENTS. EVEN THOUGH THIS DEPARTMENT ONLY ACCOUNTS FOR 2% OF YOUR ANNUAL BUDGET IT LOOKS LIKE A SMALL PEBBLE TOSSED IN THE LAKE BUT I ASSURE YOU BY THE TIME THE RIPPLE REACHES THE MOST VULNERABLE, IT IS A TSUNAMI OF NEED IN THEIR LIVES.

I ASK YOU TO PRAYERFULLY CONSIDER REINSTATING PUTTING THE SOCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT BACK IN PLACE TO SERVE OUR MOST VULNERABLE COMMUNITY. WE WILL CONTINUE TO WRAP OUR ARMS AROUND THEM AND MEET THEM WHERE THEY ARE FOR WHAT THEY NEED IN THAT MOMENT AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE WORD, LAST WEEKEND WE SERVE 1250 MEALS FOR LUNCH AND DINNER. WE SERVE 95 PATIENTS IN OUR FREE MEDICAL CLINIC. THE NEED IS THERE AND

IT'S OVER GROWING. >> VIOLA OF MONTREAL?

>> VIOLA MONTREAL, GOOD MORNING. I COME HERE BEFORE YOU AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE AGING POPULATION. PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES OF ANY AGE THROUGH THE AGING AND DISABILITY RESOURCE CENTER, THROUGH THE PAST, WE WERE ABLE TO SET ASIDE SOME FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $50,000 TO ASSIST WITH RENT, UTILITY ASSISTANCE WHICH IS A VERY SMALL AMOUNT IN COMPARISON TO WHERE THE COUNTIES WERE SERVICING AND PROVIDING. AT $400 MAXIMUM AMOUNT, EACH INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS ONLY -- WE WERE ABLE TO TOUCH IN OUR COMMUNITY, IF THESE SERVICES GO AWAY, YOU ARE LOOKING AT SENIORS THAT WILL GO WITHOUT RENTAL ASSISTANCE WITHOUT UTILITIES IN AN ECONOMY THAT IS ALREADY VERY VERY HARD WITH INDIVIDUALS ALREADY ON A FIXED INCOME LIVING OFF OF IN SOME CASES EIGHT, $900 A MONTH IN SOCIAL SECURITY. INCOME WHICH IS A VERY LOW AMOUNT TRYING TO MEET THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE THEN THE RENT THAT CONTINUES TO GO UP SO I HUMBLY ASK THAT THIS, THAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING AND DOING ENCLOSING THE SOCIAL SERVICES OF NUECES COUNTY BE RECONSIDERED, COME BACK TO THE TABLE, SPEAK WITH SOME OF US THAT ARE IN THE TRENCHES WORKING DAY TO DAY WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS AND THIS $50,000 AFTER THIS FISCAL YEAR WILL GO AWAY THE FUNDING WILL GO AWAY AS WELL. WE WILL NOT BE A RESOURCE THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO US UNLESS WE CAN BRING IN SOME ADDITIONAL GRANT FUNDING.

>> THANK YOU. >> MR. KLEIN, IF YOU WANT TO

UNMUTE, JIM KLEIN. >> GOOD MORNING, CAN YOU HEAR ME? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO ME. I WANT TO SPEAK TODAY ON BEHALF OF FULL COUNTY FUNDING FOR THE SOCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

>> BUT, DISCONTINUATION OF THE FUNDING WILL INCREASE THE HOMELESSNESS POPULATION HERE IN THE CITY AS WELL AS IN THE

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COUNTY BECAUSE SOCIAL SERVICES PROVIDES UTILITY BILL ASSISTANCE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST ON THE EDGE. I FEAR THESE ARE REALLY MAXED OUT AND NOT ABLE TO TAKE UP THE SERVICES.

WE NEED TO DO MORE FOR THE UNHOUSED. I CERTAINLY WILL ADMIT THAT. I ASK YOU DO NOT MAKE THE PROBLEMS WORSE OR MORE DIFFICULT TO SOLVE AS YOU CAN FULLY FUND SOCIAL SERVICES THROUGH THE COUNTY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU IS THERE ANYONE HERE IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC, THAT WISHES TO DO SO NOW? THANK YOU. MOVING

[G. CONVENE MEETING OF THE NUECES COUNTY HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION]

ON , I AM GOING TO STOP FOR A SECOND AND CONVENE ON THE COUNTY HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION IT IS 9:26. ON OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM ON JANUARY 18TH, I WAS VOTED IN TO REPLACE THE FORMER JUDGE BUT IN DOING SO, WE NEED TO UPDATE THE ALTERNATE FOR ME ON THIS BOARD IT WAS LISTED AS THE HAWKINS, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO CHANGE THAT TO PEYTON FLEMING MY CHIEF OF STAFF. ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, THE MOTION PASSES.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CONSENT TO THE SALE OF THE APARTMENTS AND THE ASSUMPTION AND AMENDMENT OF THE REGULATORY AGREEMENT RELATED TO THE CORPORATIONS MULTIFAMILY HOUSING REVENUE BONDS. I BELIEVE, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING, COMMISSIONER MODEST?

>> I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE IS ANYONE HERE

REPRESENTING THE GROUP? >> I BELIEVE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE SOMEONE HERE OR THE ATTORNEYS HERE FOR THEM. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO TALK ON THIS. WE HAVE THEM CONFIRMED THEY

WERE GOING TO BE OUT HERE >> YOU CAN'T REALLY --

>> THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ASKED FOR THIS.

>> HELLO. >> YES, THANK YOU. WE WERE

LOOKING FOR YOU. >> I DO WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>> I THINK IF I WASN'T HERE WHEN THIS GOT STARTED, I BELIEVE EVERYTHING IS PAID OFF IF YOU COULD CLARIFY TO ME THIS IS NOT INCLUDING ANY DEBT OR ANYTHING TRANSFERRED.

>> WE JUST OUTLINE REALLY QUICK. GO FOYE MANOR WAS A PROJECT OF 2007 THOSE BONDS HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY PAID OFF AND GO FOYE MANOR IS AN EXISTING 151 PROJECT LOCATED AT 1702 TREADWAY LANE, AND FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO REHABILITATE THIS PROJECT. THEY HAVE FINALLY FOUND A WAY TO DO IT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS. THEY WILL ISSUE TAX-EXEMPT ON AND WILL ISSUE TAX CREDITS FOR THIS PROJECT. THAT WILL ENABLE THE PROJECT TO EXTEND $16 MILLION TO REHABILITATE THIS PROJECT AND THIS PROJECT NEEDS REHABILITATION. THE IMPORTANT PART FROM THE COMMUNITY THEY REHABILITATE THE PROJECT BUT THEY WILL SIGN A NEW SET OF AGREEMENTS THAT WILL GUARANTEE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT 30 YEARS SO THE TENANTS WHO ARE THERE THEY WILL WORK AROUND MOVING

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TENANTS BACK IN, IT WILL REMAIN AND WILL SIMPLY BE A BETTER PROJECT. AND I HAVE ASKED THE REGULATORY AGREEMENT CAN BE PUT ON THE PROJECT . I HAVE REVIEWED THE REGULATORY AGREEMENT, IT IS THE SAME AS YOUR REGULATORY AGREEMENT AND IT WILL GUARANTEE THAT THIS PROJECT REMAINS AFFORDABLE. AND OF COURSE WE WON'T SIGN NEW DOCUMENTS UNTIL THEY GET TO A CLOSING TABLE AND WE KNOW THAT THAT REGULATORY AGREEMENT IS IN, THERE WILL BE NO GAP. WHAT WE ARE ASKING THE COURT TO DO IS TO CONSENT TO THE SALE. THE SALE IS CONTROLLED BY A COMPANY CALLED VITUS. THEY BROUGHT THIS PROJECT AND THEY WILL BE UNDER THE NEW TAX CREDIT PARTNERSHIP. THIS IS A NATIONAL OWNER AND OPERATOR OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THERE ARE LARGER GROUPS AND

THEY APPEAR TO DO A GOOD JOB. >> JAMES, I KNOW THAT THE COUNTY WE DON'T GET TOO MUCH INVOLVED IN HOUSING FINANCE AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE WHEN I SERVE ON CITY COUNCIL MANY TIMES OVER , THIS COMES ONCE EVERY SO OFTEN I WANT TO HAVE JUST SOME MORE CLARITY TO ALSO PUT ON NOTICE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT EVEN THOUGH THE COUNTY DOESN'T GET THESE OPPORTUNITIES VERY OFTEN THAT THIS IS OUR CHANCE TO HELP SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE COMMUNITY AND HELP SPRUCE UP NEIGHBORHOODS. I JUST WANTED TO BRING MORE ATTENTION TO IT ALSO TO PUT THOSE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY ALSO THROUGHOUT THE NATION, THERE ARE SOME OTHER COMPANIES THAT WERE, THAT I AM MORE FAMILIAR WITH THAT ARE DOING WORK THROUGH THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND HAVE DONE THAT OVER THE YEARS IN DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS THROUGHOUT THE AREA BUT THE FACT THAT IS A GROUP I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH BUT THEY'RE TAKING NOTICE AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AND HOPEFULLY THIS SENDS THE NOTICE THAT WE CAN AND WE SHOULD ASK THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TAKE INVOLVEMENT IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THIS IS THE WAY WE CAN DO IT MAYBE NOT AS OFTEN BUT THIS IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AND VITAL TO HELP SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY AND REDEVELOP THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, SPRUCE THEM UP AND PUT PEOPLE WERE DESPERATELY LOOKING FOR AFFORDABLE HOMES GOOD QUALITY HOMES THAT THEY CAN RAISE THEIR FAMILIES AND BE ABLE TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN AND COMMUNITY. OVERALL, IT'S GOOD. I JUST WANTED PEOPLE TO HAVE THE CHANCE TO CHIME IN AND THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THIS PROJECT.

>> I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION, I BELIEVE IT IS CLEAR, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CONSENT TO THE SALE AND DO WE NEED A SECOND TO AMENDING THE REGULATORY AGREEMENT? THEY ARE IN THE SAME RESOLUTION?

>> YES MA'AM. >> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION

>> YOU'RE NOT ASKING TO CHANGE THE REGULATORY SCHEME, THAT IS

A DIFFERENT DOCUMENT? >> THERE WILL BE A, WHEN I KNOW FOR SURE THAT THE FINANCING HAS OCCURRED, THEY'RE GOING TO ENTER IN TO THE MANDATORY AGREEMENT, THAT IS THE FIRST TIME WE WOULD RELEASE SIGNATURE PAGES TO THE RELEASE OF OUR REGULATORY. WE WILL GET THE JUDGE TO SIGN IT AND SEND IT TO THE COVER LETTER THAT SAYS THIS IS INTO THE CLOSING OF THE TRANSACTION AND OUR RELEASE OF THE SIGNATURE PAGES.

>> OKAY, IT LOOKS LIKE OUR ATTORNEY HERE IS AGREEABLE TO

THAT. >> THANKS FOR THE EXPLANATION, THIS MOTION IS TO INCLUDE BOTH PARTS. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

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SECOND, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WILL NOW ADJOURN THE MEETING OF THE NUECES COUNTY HOUSING CORPORATION, IT IS 9:35 AND WE ARE GOING BACK

[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]

INTO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT REGULAR MEETING. WE'RE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT ANYONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS WISH TO PULL OUT OF THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF YOU DO SO, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

>> THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE A QUICK COMMENTS.

>> ANY OTHERS FROM ANYBODY ELSE?

>> I JUST WANTED SOME CLARIFICATION.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE ALL OF THE REMAINING

[L. Approve Addendum No. 1 between Nueces County and Texas Throne, LLC., (No Cost) (No Time-Extension) to include FEMA required provisions (2 C.F.R. 200) & Byrd Anti-Lobbying Amendment Certification.]

[M. Approve Addendum No. 1 between Nueces County and Nueces Farm Center, Inc., (No Cost) (No Time-Extension) to include FEMA required provisions (2 C.F.R. 200) & Byrd Anti-Lobbying Amendment Certification.]

ONES, ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. THE MOTION PASSES.

COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT ONE?

>> OVERLOOK SOME CLARIFICATION FOR SOMEONE HOW THIS WORKS.

>> I THINK THIS WAS JUST DOCUMENTS THAT WERE NECESSARY

THAT HADN'T GOTTEN SIGNED . >> GOOD MORNING, THESE AGENDA ITEMS ARE BASICALLY COMPANIES THAT WERE USED DURING THE COVID PERIOD AND THEY DO NOT HAVE SOME OF THE FEDERAL REGULATIONS THEY REQUESTED US TO AMENDED SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING IN ORDER TO GET THE REIMBURSEMENT.

>> YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO PASS LMM? I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION TO PASS BOTH AGENDA ITEMS L AND M. ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN . SO, MOVING ON. I

[P. Appoint Tommie Lee as Presiding Judge and Totsy Armadillo as Alternate Judge for the Central Counting Station for the November 5, 2024, General Election.]

[Q. Appoint Diana Munguia, as the Central Counting Station Manager, and Kenneth Villarreal, as the Tabulation Supervisor for the upcoming General Election on November 5, 2024.]

WILL SECOND THAT, AS WELL. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR? SAY AYE. THE MOTION PASSES . MOVING ON TO OUR

[1. Receive calculations of the no-new revenue tax rate, the voter-approval tax rate and the fund balances for Nueces County, Nueces County Farm to Market, and Nueces County Hospital District for 2024.]

REGULAR AGENDA. TO RECEIVE THE CALCULATION TO THE NO NEW REVENUE, LISA IS BACK THERE SORRY I AM LOOKING AT YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. I RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT THE NO NEW REVENUE AND VOTER APPROVED TAX RATES TO COMMISSIONERS COURT. ON THE ATTACHMENT THERE WERE A COUPLE OF MINOR TYPOS AND I WILL GO THROUGH THOSE JUST IN CASE. ON THE FIRST PAGE, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM 2023 TO THE 2024 TAX YEAR THE TAXABLE VALUE HAS DECREASED. THE PROPERTY TAX RATE IS AN INVERSE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE APPRAISED VALUES. WHEN THE APPRAISED VALUES GO UP, THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE GOES DOWN.

AS YOU CAN SEE, DO TO THE CORRECTION TO THE EVALUATIONS OF REFINERIES THAT WERE IN DISPUTE LAST YEAR. IT CAUSED YOUR COLLECTIVE APPRAISED VALUES TO DECREASE BUS YOU WILL ULTIMATELY SEE AN INCREASE. ON PAGE TWO, THAT IS YOUR GENERAL

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FUND TAX RATE CALCULATION, YOU ARE STARTING OFF WITH THE 2023 TOTAL NET TAXABLE VALUE THIS CROSS-REFERENCES THE LINES TO THE TRUTH IN TAXATION WORKSHEETS THAT ARE PREPARED BY THE STATE COMPTROLLER AS REQUIRED BY STATUE. YOU CAN NOTE THAT THE NEXT TAXABLE VALUE FOR 2023 IS 43,516,000,000 999 . MOVING FORWARD, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CALCULATIONS THEMSELVES? I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WALK THROUGH IT BUT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF CALCULATING MATH, ADDING, SUBTRACTING WHICH BRINGS US TO OUR RATES PAGE . THE ADOPTED TOTAL TAX RATE IS FOR THE GENERAL FUND, THE DEBT SERVICE IN THE ROAD FUND FOR 23-24 IF YOU REMEMBER THAT WAS THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE THAT WE ADOPTED. THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS PORT -- .25727. YOUR MAXIMUM THAT YOU CAN ADOPT WITHOUT REQUIRING A VOTER APPROVAL INCLUDING THE UNUSED INCREMENT IS ON THE FAR RIGHT.

IT IS .279379. THIS WORKSHEET ALSO SHOWS YOU THE HOSPITAL DISTRICTS TAX RATE. THE ADOPTED TAX RATE FOR 2324.0852 THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS .089240 AND THE VOTER APPROVED RATE WHICH IS AN 8% ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS .09 7012.

BECAUSE THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AS A SPECIAL TAXING UNIT HAS A HIGHER LIMIT THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO ADOPT, THEY'RE ABLE TO GO TO A PERCENT HOW DOES THIS IMPACT OUR BUDGET? ON PAGE SIX IT DISCUSSES THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE. IF YOU LOOK TOWARD THE PAGE YOU WILL SEE THAT THE 24-25 TAX REVENUE BUDGET IF WE ADOPT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE WOULD BE 93 MILLION -- 93,700,004 AND $73 . WE HAD A TAX REVENUE SO THAT IS A YEAR-OVER-YEAR INCREASE OF 3 MILLION $816,195 RIGHT BELOW THAT I MADE A NOTE THAT THE REVENUE WAS 91 MILLION JUST SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAD A DROP LAST YEAR FROM YEAR TO YEAR AND THE BUDGETED REVENUE THEN IF THE 3 MILLION ISN'T, IS ABSORBING BOTH THE CUT FROM LAST YEAR AND BRINGING UP TO THE DIFFERENCE. ON PAGE SEVEN, IT IS THE VOTER APPROVED TAX RATE WITHOUT THE UNUSED INCREMENT. THAT WOULD BE A GENERAL FUND RATE OF .223 004 AND IT GIVES YOU AN INCREASE IN

YEAR-OVER-YEAR VALUE. >> TELL ME WHAT THAT IS? THAT IS TO GO TO THE VOTER APPROVED?

>> IF YOU DO THE VOTER APPROVED WITHOUT THE UNUSED INCREMENT.

IF YOU GO TO THE VOTER, WHICH IS UNUSED INCREMENT IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, IT IS ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE LAST YEAR YOU DEDUCTED THE RATE, IT'S ABLE TO GIVE THE COUNTY BACK A PORTION OF THAT REVENUE THAT THEY DIDN'T CLAIM IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR, WHENEVER BECAUSE THE REVENUE RATE GIVES YOU THE SAME TAXABLE REVENUE EXCLUDING NEW VALUE THAT YOU HAD THE PREVIOUS YEAR, IF YOU ADOPTED THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, YOU

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ARE LOWERING YOUR TAXABLE REVENUE EVERY YEAR GOING FORWARD. THE UNUSED INCREMENT IS THE WAY THAT THE STATE LEGISLATION HAS GIVEN A, OKAY WE APPRECIATE THAT YOU ADOPTED THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE LAST YEAR YOU HAVE THREE YEARS FROM THE DATE THAT YOU ADOPT THE RATE LOWER THAN THE VOTER APPROVED RATE TWO YEARS AGO WE USED OUR ENTIRE UNUSED INCREMENT SO THE AMOUNT OF UNUSED INCREMENT THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS YEAR IS SOLELY BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF TAX REVENUE THAT WE GAVE UP LAST YEAR WHENEVER WE ADOPTED THE NO NEW

REVENUE RATE. >> THE UNUSED INCREMENT IS, SORRY ON PAGE FIVE IT'S ITEMIZED SEPARATELY SO THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THE CALCULATION. IT IS .013847.

>> THAT IS GOING TO BE SHOWN ON THE NEXT PAGE WHICH IS WHY GAVE YOU THE TWO DIFFERENT VOTER APPROVED RATE SO THAT YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH REVENUE WE CAN GET BACK THAT WE GAVE UP LAST YEAR.

SO, WHAT IS THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT?

>> THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THE VOTER APPROVED WITH THE UNUSED INCREMENT WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM WE CAN ADOPT WITHOUT GOING OUT

TO THE VOTERS IS 13 MILLION. >> WHAT IS JUST THE UNUSED

INCREMENT? >> IT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO. I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER, DOES ANYBODY? IT IS 13

MINUS SEVEN. >> IT IS ROUGHLY 6 MILLION? THE UNUSED INCREMENT MEANS WE COULD USE 6 MILLION , WE DON'T GET 6 MILLION WE GET 6 MILLION ADDED ON AND TRYING TO EXPLAIN THIS TO MYSELF BECAUSE IT IS SUPER CONFUSING. THE UNUSED INCREMENT FROM LAST YEAR BECAUSE WE PASSED THE TAX RATE IS ROUGHLY

$6 MILLION. >> YOU CAN USE IT FOR ANYTHING TO FUND YOUR GENERAL FUND OPERATIONS OR ADD IT TO YOUR

FUND BALANCE. >> IT HAS THE SAME RESTRICTIONS AS ANY OTHER GENERAL FUND WHICH IS TO FUND THE OPERATIONS OF NUECES COUNTY COUNTY ANYTHING THAT IS THE OPERATIONS OF

INAUDIBLE ] COUNTY . >> IF WE ADOPTED LET'S JUST SAY THE NO NEW TAX RATE AND WE USE ALL OF OUR UNUSED INCREMENT, WE WOULD GET AN ADDITIONAL $6 MILLION IN REVENUE BECAUSE WE ARE USING THE UNUSED INCREMENTS WITHOUT RAISING TAXES, IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT? IT'S ONE TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS. EVERYTHING WITHOUT RAISING TAXES WAS CORRECT. IT IS A RAISE IN TAXES, ANYTHING ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE BYLAW IS LEGALLY DEFINED AS IT -- AN

INCREASE OF YOUR TAX RATE. >> WHAT IS THE VALUE OF AN UNUSED INCREMENT TO THE TAXPAYER? SO WHAT IS THE VALUE, WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THE UNUSED INCREMENT? YOU SAID THE LEGISLATURE SAID BASICALLY THIS IS THEIR WAY OF SAYING THANKS FOR NOT RAISING TAXES. AND YOU GET THIS UNUSED INCREMENT AS PART OF THE CALCULATION TO USE WHATEVER YOU WANT TO USE BUT WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THAT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO RAISE TAXES BECAUSE YOU ARE STILL -- IF YOU DON'T RAISE TAXES -- IT WAS PUT IN PLACE TO HELP COUNTIES. IS GOING INTO THIS YEAR WE ARE TOLD THAT WE ARE GOING INTO THE END OF THE YEAR, OUR REVENUES MAY BE DOWN TO 21. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO KEEP 25% IN OUR RESERVED FUNDS IS .24. OUR FINANCE HAS TOLD YOU THAT IS ALSO LOW. WE HAD A DISASTER AND EMERGENCY THAT WE ARE NOT REALLY IN GOOD SHAPE TO BORROW MONEY IF WE NEEDED IT. SO I

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THINK THIS WAS THE LEGISLATURE'S WAY OF WHEN THINGS LIKE THIS IMPACTED US LAST YEAR THAT PUT US IN TO THIS POSITION TO HELP YOU GET OUT BUT IT IS A TAX INCREASE .

>> IT JUST DOESN'T COUNT TOWARD THE VOTER APPROVED RATE

MAYBE THAT'S THE VALUE. >> IT IS.

>> IT HAS ADDED ONTO YOUR VOTER APPROVED RATE SO THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO ADOPT THIS NEW ARRAY PLUS THE UNUSED INCREMENT FOR YOU HAVE TO GO OUT TO THE VOTERS.

>> WE PASSED A LAW, THEY USE THE INCREMENT ABOVE THE 3 1/2%.

>> THAT'S WHERE I NEEDED CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU FOR NOT RAISING TAXES LAST YEAR IS YOU GET THE OPPORTUNITY IF YOU NEED IT TO NOT GO ABOVE THAT 3.5% OR NOT BE COUNTING ABOVE THE 3.5% CAP IT IS STILL A TAX INCREASE BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE

TO BE VOTER APPROVED. >> GOING FORWARD FOR THE, AS I JUST STATED, THE VOTER APPROVED INCREASE THIS IS THE MAXIMUM INCREASE IN YOUR BUDGET THAT YOU CAN HAVE WITHOUT HAVING A VOTE BY THE TAX INCREASE WOULD GIVE YOU AN INCREASE BUDGET OF 13 MILLION. ON THE FOLLOWING PAGE, IT IS SHOWING THE INCREASE IN DEBT SERVICE BUDGET TO FULLY FUND OUR DEBT SERVICE TRUTH IN TAXATION THAT WE NEED A PROPERTY TAX RATE OF .03 NINE 369 WHICH WILL GIVE YOU A YEAR-OVER-YEAR INCREASE OF AN ADDITIONAL 289,550 -- $13. AT THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER ON PAGE NINE IT DOES STATE THAT YOUR DEBT SERVICE REQUIREMENT FOR 24-25 TO 16 MILLION. YOUR FARM TO MARKET REVENUE RATE WILL GENERATE AN ADDITIONAL YEAR-OVER-YEAR BUDGET INCREASE OF $40,818. AND THE VOTER APPROVED TAX RATE WHICH FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT IS 8% IS 4 MILLION 529, ZERO 25, EXCUSE ME THAT IS THE MAXIMUM THAT THEY CAN APPROVE WITHOUT VOTER APPROVAL. IT INCLUDES ANY OF THE ABATEMENTS THAT YOU HAD IMPOSED ON YOUR TAXES THAT HAVE NOW ROLLED OFF AND HAVE BECOME TAXABLE VALUE IN 2024. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CALCULATIONS ARE THE NUMBERS THEMSELVES?

>> IF YOU USE THE UNUSED INCREMENT IS THAT A ONE TIME

DEAL? >> IT IS ONE AND DONE. IT DOES MAKE IT HIGHER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?

>> WHENEVER YOU USE THE UNUSED INCREMENT , YOU HAVE ESSENTIALLY GONE BACK AND MADE THAT ADJUSTMENT ALREADY IN YOUR RATE. THE LEGISLATION DID CHANGE THE TAX CODE ON HOW THE UNUSED INCREMENT IS HANDLED PREVIOUSLY IF YOU USE ANY PORTION OF THE UNUSED INCREMENT, YOU COULDN'T, YOU FORFEIT ALL OF IT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS STILL THE RULE OF IT HAVE TO GO CHECK THE TAX CODE. AT THIS POINT THE THOUGHT IS YOU MAY HAVE TO USE IT ONCE, YOU CAN'T DIVIDE IT UP SOME

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THIS YEAR SOME NEXT YEAR. YOU JUST NEED TO CLARIFY THAT. I WOULD NEED TO GO GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. I DON'T KNOW THAT

PART. >> AGAIN SINCE THE LEGISLATION DID MAKE CHANGES TO IT I WOULD WANT TO REVIEW THE TAX CODE

BEFORE JUST TO MAKE SURE >> THIS IS AN INTERESTING THING FOR ME. THE VOTER APPROVED, THE TOTAL VOTER APPROVED IF THEY CHOOSE TO PASS IT BACK ON PAGE FIVE ON THE FAR RIGHT, IF YOU USE INCREMENT YOU'D ADD THE .013847 TO THAT?

>> IT INCLUDES THAT .013, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CALCULATION IT SHOWS YOU EVERY PIECE OF IT SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT UNUSED INCREMENT IS ADDED TO THE RATE BUT THAT WOULDN'T BE THE NEW VOTER APPROVED RATE . THE PROPERTY TAX RATE EACH YEAR THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE CAN SEE THE SAME TAXABLE REVENUE WHEN LOOKING AT THE SAME PROPERTIES THE PROPERTIES WERE ON THE ROLE THIS YEAR AND THEY WERE USED IN CALCULATING THE TOTAL VOTER APPROVED RATE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO GENERATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE AS YOU RECEIVED THIS

YEAR >> ONCE YOU ADOPT A RATE, THAT IS YOUR ADOPTED RATE. YOU SAID YOU CAN ONLY USE THAT ONE TIME SO I'M KIND OF CONFUSED THERE.

>> THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY TO ADD TO YOUR RATE NEXT YEAR, THE FOLLOWING YEAR YOUR RATE WOULD STAY THE SAME, THAT'S CORRECT.

>> I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, WHENEVER YOU ARE DOING THE WORKSHEETS THE FOLLOWING YEAR YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ADD IT, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THE FAR RIGHT COLUMN IN THE 25-26 TAXES. IT WOULD BE IN THERE FROM YOUR BEGINNING ADOPTED RATE.

>> LET'S JUST DOUBLE VERIFY THAT IF IT IS RESETTING THE RATE, THAT IS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE THAT IS NOT TO ME A ONE TIME USE BUT I MAY BE NOT CLEAR ON THAT. I AM OKAY TODAY BEFORE WE GET INTO THE MEAT OF THE BUDGET WHICH WE AREN'T INTO.

IT WILL BE PART OF THAT ADOPTED RATE. IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT LAST, TWO YEARS AGO WE USED THE INCREMENT, WHAT WE ADOPTED WAS THE RATE. THE UNUSED INCREMENT GETS ADDED TO THE GENERAL FUND RATE, BECOMES YOUR TOTAL GENERAL FUND RATE.

>> SO WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THIS AGAIN IN THE FUTURE UNLESS WE DID A NO NEW REVENUE TAX AGAIN THEN IN THE FUTURE AFTER THAT, THE FOLLOWING YEARS WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ADD TO IT.

IT'S BASICALLY INCREASING OUR 3 1/2% WITHOUT GOING TO VOTER

APPROVAL. >> EXACTLY, THAT'S CORRECT.

>> I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE HECK THAT ACCOMPLISHES BUT OKAY, GO

AHEAD. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, ANYONE? I THINK THAT IS GOOD, THANK YOU, LISA.

>> WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE NUMBERS. WE HAD SOME CHALLENGING AGREEMENTS BUT AFTER WE WERE ABLE TO GET EVERYTHING ACCOMPLISHED, THESE ARE THE RATES THAT WE HAD AT

THIS TIME. >> WE ARE CONFIDENT THESE ARE

[2. Discuss and consider establishing the Early Voting Polling Locations for the November 5, 2024, General Election; authorize the County Clerk to add additional locations if needed.]

THE CORRECT AMOUNTS. THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO ITEM TWO ESTABLISHING THE EARLY VOTING POLLING LOCATIONS FOR THE

ELECTION. >> JUDGE, THIS IS WHERE I WANTED TO -- MORE OF A COMMENT, I APPRECIATE THE COUNTY CLERK I KNOW THIS IS NOT EASY. WE SAY AND IT GOES INTO THE WIND.

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MAKING SURE THAT THE A.D.A. THAT THEY DO HAVE ACCESSIBILITY AND THERE IS ENOUGH OF DEMAND, IT IS A DEBATE THAT IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE LEFT WERE PEOPLE SHOP ON THEIR OWN. OR THEY TRADITIONALLY HAVE IT BECAUSE IS ONLY A FEW YEARS OLD BUT OVERALL, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY COMPLAINTS FROM EITHER PARTY ON THE SIDES. ANOTHER CLERK'S OFFICE HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY OPEN TO INCLUDING BOTH GROUPS. THEY COVER A GOOD CROSS-SECTION.

>> I DID HAVE A QUESTION ON ONE, TO BE NOT USE THIS FIRE STATION ANYMORE, WHAT HAPPENED THAT ONE? I AM JUST WONDERING WHY THERE IS A REASON WHY IT'S NOT -- 23 --

>> FOR THE DISCUSSION'S SAKE, --

>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND, ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AND AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY CLERK TO ADDITIONAL. SECOND PAGE, WE HAVE A MOTION I

[3. Discuss and consider approval of Election Day Vote Centers for the November 5, 2024, General Election; authorize the County Clerk to add additional locations if needed.]

WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. THAT IS ON STAPLES AND HOLLY. AND THEN, AND IT WILL -- ANNAVILLE. THAT IS A GREAT LOCATION . WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THE

[4. Discuss and consider the submission of an application to the Texas State Library and Archives Commission for participation in the 2024 Interlibrary Loan (ILL) Lending Reimbursement Program.]

MOTION PASSES, THANK YOU. FOR THE PARTICIPATION IN THE 2024 INTERLIBRARY LOAN LENDING REIMBURSEMENT. THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION, DO YOU KNOW

ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? >> THEY WILL PAY FOR THE POSTAGE THAT THEY USED. IT IS JUST A REIMBURSEMENT OF THE COST TO LEND THINGS TO OTHER LIBRARIES.

>> THAT'S WHAT WAS NOT CLEAR. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS.

WITH A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL OF THOSE

[5. Discuss and consider method of procurement RFP (request for proposals) under Local Government Code 262.030, for Courthouse Food Services; authorize Purchasing Agent to publish a notice; and delegate selection to an Evaluation Committee.]

IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, THE MOTION PASSES, THANK YOU. THEY DELEGATE THE SELECTION TO EVALUATE, I THINK THIS COURT DECIDED A LONG TIME AGO THE PUBLIC WORKS AS A COMMITTEE

MEMBER ASSIGNED TO THIS. >> IS THE CURRENT CONTRACT

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ADMINISTRATOR AND SO, IT IS COMING TO THE END OF THE TIME WHERE WE HAVE NO MORE RENEWALS AND IT'S JUST TIME TO GET OUT AGAIN. WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND, IS THERE ANY OTHER

[6. Discuss and consider approval and execution of Amendment No. 1 to Work Authorization No. 1 under the Master Services Agreement between Nueces County and International Consulting Engineers (ICE), for the Sunrise Pond Nature & Storytime Walking Trail, and related matters.]

DISCUSSION? ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN? THE MOTION PASSES. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. FOR THE SUNRISE POND NATURE AND STORYTIME WALKING TRAIL, I BELIEVE EDWARD IS HERE ADDING PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AND SHADE STRUCTURE AND THEN A TIME

EXTENSION AS WELL. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ANY OPPOSED, SAME

[7. Discuss and consider approval and execution of Amendment No. 1 to Work Authorization No. 1 under the Master Services Agreement between Nueces County and LJA Engineering, Inc., for the Amistad Veterans Memorial Park Project, and related matters.]

SIGN, THE MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER 7 THE APPROVAL AND EXECUTION AND I DO HAVE IN MY NOTES THAT THEY REVIEW AND APPROVE, THIS IS A TIME EXTENSION AS WELL TO MARCH

31ST. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. IN A POST, SAME SIGN.

[8. Discuss and consider additional American Recue Plan Act (ARPA) allocations from Precinct 2 for the CSP No. 3251-23 Nueces County Medical Examiner Facility and Renovation Project alternate bid items not awarded, and related matters.]

THE MOTION PASSES. THE ADDITIONAL AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN. THE EXAMINER'S FACILITY AND RENOVATION PROJECT, THE ALTERNATE BID ITEMS THAT WERE NOT AWARDED AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER JAGGED, COMMISSIONER GONZALES HERE ADDING ITEMS TO FIVE AND SIX ALTERNATIVES WITH YOUR FUNDING

SOURCE >> I MET WITH TERESA, I JUST

WENT AHEAD AND REALLOCATED. >> ALTERNATES ARE IN THE PACKAGE, NUMBERS ONE, TWO, FIVE, AND SIX. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

>> THE TOTAL IS 350,000. ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY

OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. >> JUST TO INFORM THE COURT, UPON THIS DECISION THAT YOU JUST MADE, WE WILL BE WORKING WITH GRANTS AND GRANT WORK TO MAKE SURE WE DO EVERYTHING TO BRING BACK AND TOWARD THESE ITEMS. THIS PROVIDES THE FUNDING, WE WILL COME BACK TO DO THE PAPER.

>> EXCUSE ME, JUDGE? I WASN'T HERE.

>> HE WOULD LIKE TO BE SHOWN -- YES. HE HAS JUST STEPPED OUT.

[9. Discuss and consider rescinding the Court's reduction in force of April 10, 2024, (Item 4.D) related to the Social Services Department FY 2024-2025, by restoring 3 employee positions in Social Services (Case Manager, Social Worker and Senior Clerk), in addition to the 2 positions moving to Veteran Services; and all other matters.]

ITEM NUMBER NINE, I KNOW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT BRINGING THIS BACK BUT UNTIL WE ARE WORKING ON THE BUDGET AND WE DECIDE HOW MUCH MONEY WITH HER WHICH IS WHATEVER FUNDING WE ARE GOING TO HAVE I THINK THIS NEEDS TO COME BACK TO OUR SEPTEMBER THE 11TH MEETING WHERE WE KNOW WHAT OUR FUNDS ARE UNTIL WE VOTE TO PROCEED, WE CAN'T INCREASE ANY BUDGETED ITEMS UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WHAT WE WILL HAVE.

>> THIS IS HERE, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL FUNDS BECAUSE THEIR PEOPLE ALREADY ON THE PAYROLL. 16 EMPLOYEES AND I WANT TO KEEP FIVE EMPLOYEES, THE OTHER THREE TO SOCIAL SERVICES TO THE WESTERN AREA. WANT TO CUT BACK OVER THERE. THERE PART OF THE

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SALARIES. THERE IS NO INCREASE THAT I KNOW OF.'S NOT LIKE WE ARE GOING TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE TO IT. I MEAN, DO I MAKE A

MOTION -- >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

SECOND. >> I'M ALL IN FAVOR CHATTING MORE, I DON'T THINK THREE IS ENOUGH. I DON'T THINK THREE IS AMBITION ENOUGH. I AGREE THAT WE NEED TO WAIT FOR THE BUDGET.

WHAT COMMISSIONER GONZALES SAID IS CORRECT, THIS FUNDING IS A

WASH BASICALLY? >> IT IS STILL THE BUDGET THAT WE ARE ON NOW. THAT IS WHAT I'M SAYING, THIS IS TO 4-25, NEXT YEAR. REPORT AMOUNT, IF WE PULL THEM OUT IS THERE A

REDUCTION OF BUDGET >> WE ARTIE PULL THE MOUNTS WE HAVE TO ADD THEM BACK. IF WE SAY WE ARE GOING TO KEEP FIVE IT IS STILL THE 100% PRODUCTION. THERE IS STILL A REDUCTION. IT IS ALREADY IN THE FUND FOR THESE POSITIONS.

>> I THINK THAT'S WHY THIS BECOMES A BUDGET DECISION WHETHER WE DECIDE HOW MANY WE ARE GOING TO KEEP, WHETHER WE DECIDE WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO GO BECAUSE --

>> I WOULD RATHER HOLD THIS TO THE BUDGET SO WE CAN LOOK AT ALL OF IT. I WILL TAKE ANY TO SAVE ANY RESTRUCTURE THAT, HOW DO WE PAY FOR THAT? LIKE I'VE ALWAYS TOLD EVERYONE, IT GETS REALLY CRAZY HERE IN THE LAST 30 MINUTES AS WE ARE VOTING ON OUR BUDGET THAT WE ARE MAKING MOTIONS AND COUNTER MOTIONS AND SOME THAT FAIL AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY SUPPORT A MOTION BUT WE END UP SUPPORTING MAYBE THE BUDGET, THAT IS MY ONLY WORRY THAT I WANT TO LOOK AT THE FULL BUDGET AS IT IS PRESENTED FIRST BECAUSE I LIKE TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE ON THIS IF WE CAN I'M NOT SAYING I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS GROWTH, BUT IF WE CAN WAIT ABOUT A MONTH, RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT WE

SAID? >> I WOULD SAY LET'S WAIT A MONTH BUT WE WILL DECIDE, WE WILL VOTE ON THE TAX RATE UNTIL

SEPTEMBER THE 11TH. >> AS LONG AS WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT, I'M GOOD WITH ONE WEEK SO WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AND KNOW WHERE THE FUNDING IS AND IF WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION I

WILL SUPPORT TAKING ACTION. >> IF WE CAN WAIT ONE WEEK, LET'S LOOK AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP AND SEE WHERE THE FUNDING FALLS AND MAYBE WE CAN TAKE ACTION AT THE NEXT MEETING. THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY THING, I'M NOT SAYING NO, I'M

JUST SAYING NO TODAY. >> THIS IS REALLY RIDICULOUS, THIS IS REALLY A GAME PLAYED HERE. PEOPLE ARE ALREADY THERE, THERE ALREADY IN THE PAYROLL, THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING, DOING THEIR JOB. TALKING ABOUT A MONTH, TELLING ABOUT THREE WEEKS, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THEY'RE THERE, WE JUST WANT TO CONTINUE WORKING THERE. WHAT IS SO HARD ABOUT THAT. WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, WE ARE ASKING JUST TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THAT AREA THAT NEEDS HELP AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT, BUT I KNOW YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL SEPTEMBER OR WHATEVER I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE MADE AND IF YOU WANT TO VOTE AGAINST IT NOW, VOTE AGAINST IT NOW, BUT MY THOUGHT IS TO KEEP THOSE THAT ARE THERE, IT'S NOT GOING TO BREAK THE COUNTY BECAUSE THE PAYROLL IS ALREADY THERE. THEY LOST ALREADY SO THE SERVICE WILL BE CUT BACK QUITE A BIT ALREADY. SO I THINK THAT THERE IS A GREATER NEED ON THIS PART OF THE COUNTY AND I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST SEEMS THAT WE ARE CUTTING THE WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTY NOT THE OTHER SIDE OF

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THE COUNTY. THERE I'M SO TIRED OF THAT ARGUMENT.

>> EXCUSE ME, IF WE KEEP THESE PEOPLE THE SERVICES COUNTY, THEY ARE NOT THE WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTY. THEY SERVICE A

WHOLE THING. IT IS NOT -- >> THEY WILL SERVE THE ONES --

>> IF THEY CUT THIS DEPARTMENT THAT FURTHER FOR THE DISCUSSION GOES. THEY NEED TO BE HERE MORE IN A CENTRAL LOCATION.

>> THOSE PEOPLE SAYING YEAR THAT THEY WOULD STAY.

>> READY WANT TO PUT THEM UNDER VETERAN SERVICES?

>> I DON'T CARE WHERE WE PUT THEM.

>> I'M JUST TRYING ASK WHAT THE PLAN IS BECAUSE -- SO, I TIRE OF YOUR -- AS LONG AS THEY PROVIDE SERVICES.

>> I AGREE IN THE SENSE THAT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM I THINK THE APPROACH WAS EXTREMELY VALID AND BASICALLY CAME UP WITH A REALLY GREAT WAY AND I HOPE THEY WILL TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY AND LOOKING AT WHAT HE DOES TO DISCUSS THIS BUT I DON'T HAVE AN OVERALL PROBLEM WITH IT EITHER I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE KEEP DISCUSSING ITEMS OUTSIDE OF THE BUDGET. I DON'T GET IT. WE TABLED THIS AND KEEP PUTTING STUFF BACK ON THAT WE TABLE AS A COURT AND I GET YOU ARE DOING IT FOR WHATEVER REASONS YOU ARE DOING IT, THAT IS FINE BUT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO THIS DURING BUDGET AND YOU KEEP PUTTING STUFF BACK ON THE BUDGET AND YOU MAKE THIS ON FACTUAL ARGUMENT THAT YOU HAVE NEVER ONCE BACKED UP WITH ANYTHING THAT SAYS WE ARE CUTTING AGAIN AT THE WESTERN -- WE HAVEN'T CUT ANYTHING AT THE WESTERN PART OF THIS, NOT ONE THING.

THAT IS WHAT YOUR ARGUMENT IS ALL THE TIME WHICH YOU NEVER BACK IT UP WITH ANY FACTS, YOU JUST SAY IT SO I TIRE OF THAT BUT I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOUR CONCEPT OF THIS BUT I STRUGGLE WITH IT BECAUSE WE KEEP PUTTING THINGS ON THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO DURING BUDGET AND WE KEEP PUTTING STUFF ON THAT ISN'T TIMELY EVEN THOUGH WE TABLE IT AND SAY WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS IT DURING BUDGET AND THEN YOU BRING IT BACK ON AND VIOLATE THE PROCESS. THAT IS MY STRUGGLE. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOUR CONCEPT OF THIS I DISAGREE WITH THE PROCESS. AND I THINK IT IS UNFAIR THAT YOU KEEP PUTTING STUFF BACK ON EVEN THOUGH THIS COURT TABLES IT BY A VOTE TO STIR IT -- DO IT DURING BUDGET VOTES AND YOU KEEP PUTTING THINGS BACK ON AND THE JUDGE WILL PULL IT OFF BECAUSE JUST WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMISSIONER BEEN WHICH I GET IT.

>> BYLAW THEY HAVE TO PUT IT ON.

>> I GET IT. >> I'M NOT DONE, WHEN WE TABLE SOMETHING THAT IS ALSO THE LAW. I GET IT, IT PUTS THE JUDGE IN A BAD SPOT. WE WILL HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION DURING BUDGET, YOUR WE ARE DISCUSSING ANOTHER ITEM THAT THIS COURT HAS PREVIOUSLY TABLED. THAT IS A VIOLATION OF THE LAW TOO. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE CONCEPT OF THIS AND PUT IT UNDER AND EXPAND IT AND MAKE THAT UNDER JJ, THAT'S FINE BUT TO ME THIS IS A BUDGET DISCUSSION AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE HAVING IT AT A NON-BUDGET MEETING.

>> IT HASN'T BEEN TOO LONG AGO THAT YOU KEEP GETTING PUT BACK ON THE RESTAURANT, ON THE PIER, YOU BROUGHT IT UP EVERY CHANCE

YOU HAD. >> COMMISSIONER, IT WASN'T A BUDGET ITEM. I PUT THE DOG PARK ON 30 TIMES WHEN IT WAS VOTED A DIFFERENT WAY BECAUSE YOU CAN. I CAN PUT ANYTHING I WANT BACK ON TOO UNLESS IT HAS BEEN TABLED BY THE COURT IT WASN'T TABLED. I KNOW YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT, LET ME EXPLAIN IT AGAIN AND I KNOW YOU HATE THE ISLAND AND YOU HIT THE PIER AND YOU MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR EVERY TIME A DISCUSSION COMES UP, YOU BRING UP THE RESTAURANT AND WANT TO BE LINE IT. LET'S HAVE A GREAT DISCUSSION ON AND WE CAN HAVE AN INTELLECTUAL DISCUSSION AS TO WHY YOU DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE YOU'VE MADE THAT VERY CLEAR AND WHY YOU VOTED AGAINST IT, YOU'VE MADE IT VERY CLEAR BUT IT'S NOT RELEVANT TO TODAY. AGAIN, THAT

IS ONLY THING -- >> I WAS BRINGING UP THAT YOU KEPT BRINGING UP THE RESTAURANT EVERY CHANCE YOU HAD.

>> IT WASN'T TABLED BY THE COURT.

>> EXCUSE ME, THAT IS ENOUGH, WE HAVE SAID IT IS AN AGENDA ITEM, WE HAVE SET IT IS A BUDGET ITEM, WE HAVE SET WILL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO BRING THINGS BACK THAT IS NOT SOLVING

ANY PROBLEM HERE TODAY. >> DISCUSSION TODAY IS ABOUT COMMISSIONER GONZALES, IS YOUR MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD ON A BOAT WITH US TODAY OR ARE YOU WILLING TO RESEND YOUR MOTION AND BRING IT BACK TO A DISCUSSION DURING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP AND DURING BUDGET TO VOTE ON IT.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

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>> THIS IS A BUDGET ITEM. >> IF WE WERE TO VOTE ME INFORMATIVE, WE ARE COMMITTING ALREADY POSITIONS FOR THE BUDGET BUT WE ARE NOT REALLY IN OUR BUDGET MEETINGS OR

WORKSHOPS. >> THAT IS MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THIS. I AM WILLING TO WAIT, LET'S WAIT ONE WEEK NEXT WEEK THAT WE HAVE OUR WORKSHOPS AND THEN WE CAN FIND OUT, HAVE A BETTER ESTIMATE WHERE WE ARE AT AND MAKE SOME DISCUSSIONS AND I WILL ULTIMATELY VOTE ON THAT. LIKE I SAID, I WILL TAKE THE THREE. I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF GIVE AND TAKE.

I'M GOING TO DO THAT, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AS FAR AS TRYING TO SERVE MORE THE RURAL PART. I THINK WE ALL ARE TO SERVE THE ROLE, THAT MAYBE SOMETHING THAT WE BREAK UP.

MAYBE WE GET THREE OF THE COURTHOUSE OR WE GET THREE TO SERVE A BETTER CROSS-SECTION OF THE COUNTY. I'M ALL FOR THAT DISCUSSION. I WOULD RATHER BE MORE AGGRESSIVE . I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR BECAUSE I WILL WAIT A WEEK. IF WE FIND A REDETERMINE THE NEXT MEETING, THEN WE WILL DO IT. WE WILL DO

IT COME SEPTEMBER. >> I'M GOING TO VOTE NO ON THIS AS WELL. I AGREE WITH THE DISCUSSIONS, I AGREE WITH YOU.

UNTIL WE HAVE A BUDGETED NUMBER AND THOSE OF YOU THAT VOTED AGAINST THE TAX INCREASE AND WHEN OUR BEGINNING FUND BALANCE IS AS LOW AS IT IS AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY TAKEN A TERRIBLE VOTE ON AND I HAD TO DO, I THINK UNLESS WE KNOW MOVING FORWARD WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAVE TO FUND THESE PROJECTS, THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS AND ARGUMENTS RIGHT HERE NOW, ANOTHER BUDGETED ITEM ON WHERE WE ARE GOING TO PUT THEM. THIS IS NOT A DECISION THAT CAN BE MADE WITHOUT THOSE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS SO I'M GOING TO VOTE NO TODAY .

>> SO YOU HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE . ALL OF THOSE OPPOSED SAY SAME

SIGN. >> NO.

>> SO DO WE NEED TO -- IT WILL BE DISCUSSED --

[10. Discuss and consider upcoming Commissioners Court meeting date(s), workshop date(s), and related matters.]

>> IF YOU WANT TO BRING IT BACK YOU'RE WELCOME TO BRING IT BACK BUT IT WON'T BE IN A MEETING LIKE THIS.

>> ITEM NUMBER 10, DISCUSSING AND CONSIDERING THE MEETING DATES, WORKSHOP DATES AND RELATED MATTERS, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES ON THAT? ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MEETING DATES? NONE? SORRY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, TERESA THAT YOU NEED TO TELL

US? >> NO, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND THE COURT THAT WE DO HAVE BUDGET WORKSHOPS ON THE 12TH.

THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND THEN ON THE 14TH WE WILL HAVE CAPITAL PROJECT GRANTS AND OFFERS WORKSHOP .

>> YOU VOTE FOR THE TAX RATE AT WHATEVER RATE YOU WANT TO GO WITH AND THEN WE VOTE ON THE 11TH FOR BUDGET AND TAX RATE.

>> THAT IS JUST GRANTS AND CAPITAL PROJECTS.

>> THE MEETING ON THAT, TOO, RIGHT?

>> THEY WILL BE INVITED. THERE INVITED ON THE 14TH . MOVING ON

[1. Approve method of procurement of IFB (Invitation For Bids) for Stonegate Drainage Improvement Precinct 1 ARPA funded project; and authorize Purchasing Agent to publish a notice.]

TO ITEM B1, PUBLIC WORKS. INVITATION FOR BIDS DRAINAGE

IMPROVEMENT. >> HAVE THEY, I BELIEVE THERE WAS A QUESTION HERE THAT THE CLIENTS NEED TO SIGN BEFORE THE COUNTY CAN ACCEPT THE DEED, HAVE THEY DONE THAT?

>> THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT AND THEY WERE GOING TO I BELIEVE FILE SOMETHING THAT HAS ALL BEEN KIND OF HAPPENING SIMULTANEOUSLY AND WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE OR CHECKING TO SEE

IF IT'S BEEN FILED. >> CAN WE VOTE TO PROCEED WITH YOUR FINAL APPROVAL ON THIS? THIS IS MOVING FORWARD, THEY

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HAVE SIGNED THE DOCUMENTS NECESSARY.

>> CAN YOU BRING THIS BACK IN OR, LATER IN THIS MEETING. I CAN PROBABLY HAVE AN UPDATE BEFORE THE END OF THE MEETING.

>> I WILL PULL THIS ONE OUT AND BRING IT BACK AT THE END OF THE MEETING TO SEE IF WE HAVE THE INFORMATION. OKAY, ITEM NUMBER

[2. Approve method of procurement of IFB (Invitation for Bids) for London Area Regional Retention Pond Precinct 4 ARPA funded project; and authorize Purchasing Agent to publish a notice.]

TWO THEN, APPROVED METHOD OF PROCUREMENT FOR INVITATION FOR BIDS, REGIONAL RETENTION PONDS YOU HAVE REVIEWED THESE DOCUMENTS AND THE DOCUMENTS ARE, IT SAYS YOU HAVE REVIEWED

THEM ON ITEM NUMBER TWO. >> NUMBER TWO? I BELIEVE SO.

>> FOR THE LONDON AREA. >> AND IT IS FULLY FUNDED. WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND, ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[3. Approve method of procurement of IFB (Invitation for Bids) for County Road 47 Bridge Widening Precinct 4 ARPA funded project; and authorize Purchasing Agent to publish a notice.]

AGAIN, COMMISSIONER? >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THE MOTION PASSES.

[4. Approve method of procurement of IFB (Invitation for Bids) for New Driscoll Community Center Precinct 1 ARPA funded project; and authorize Purchasing Agent to publish a notice.]

ITEM NUMBER FOUR, APPROVED THE METHOD INVITATION FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND AUTHOR IS PURCHASING AGENTS TO PUBLISH A

NOTICE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY POST? THE MOTION

[1. Discuss and consider conditional selection of AHI Facility Services, Inc. for Janitorial Services (RFP No. 3285-24); and related matters.]

PASSES. PURCHASING DISCUSSING THE SELECTION FACILITY SERVICES

FOR JANITORIAL SERVICES >> YES, JUDGE. WE RECEIVED FOUR PROPOSALS FOR THIS ITEM. IT IS OUR CURRENT PROVIDER. UPON APPROVAL FROM THE COURT, WE WILL WORK TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT AND BRING IT BACK IN A LATER DATE.

>> WAS THE SENT OUT TO INCREASE MORE SO? DID WE GO BACK UP TO THE REGULAR SERVICES? OR IS THIS SO -- STILL THE SAME SERVICES. I WILL MAKE A MISSION TO PASS .

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY POST, SAME SIGN? THE MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER TWO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER

[2. Discuss and consider conditional selection of Bonco, LLC for Precinct 2 Colonias Septic System Improvements ARPA Project (IFB No. 3284-24); and related matters.]

ADDITIONAL SELECTION OF THE PRECINCT 2, COLONIAL SYSTEM

SEPTIC SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS. >> ON THIS ONE, WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO APPROVE THE SELECTION FOR THE PRECINCT

NUMBER 32 TO 24. >> WE HAVE A SECOND, ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ALL OF THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

[1. Approve Budget Amendment No. 11 for Fiscal Year 2023-2024.]

MOTION PASSES. THE AUDITOR, APPROVED BUDGET AMENDMENT, APPROVED BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER 11 FOR FISCAL YEAR

2023-2024. >> EMPLOYEE BENEFITS AS WELL AS SOCIAL SERVICES. EVERY YEAR WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF UNEMPLOYMENT.

AND THIS HAPPENED THIS YEAR, WE ARE JUST MAKING SURE THESE ARE FUNDS AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THE COVER THE ADDITIONAL COSTS.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT MY OFFICES SAY ARE FINE AS WELL AS SOCIAL SERVICES. AND THEY NEEDED TO PAY FOR THAT AND THEY HAD SALARY SERVICES IN THE DEPARTMENT TO PAY FOR THIS AND THEY'RE MOVING THOSE FUNDS OVER AND THE SERVICE TO DO THIS AT THE AIRPORT, THEY'RE ABLE TO FUND THESE, THEY'RE ABLE TO REVIEW THESE CHANGE ORDERS AND RESUBMIT BUDGET CHANGE ORDER FOR THE ACCEPTANCE AND APPROVAL.

>> SO MOVED. >> I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OF

[2. Approve Monthly Financial Report for Fiscal Year 2023 – 2024 for the nine months ending June 30, 2024.]

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THOSE, SAME SIGN. IN THE MOTION PASSES.

>> WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE REPORTS TO SHOW THE REVENUE EXPENSE IN EACH VALUE FOR THE GENERAL FUND. THERE ARE NO PAGE NUMBER SO I CAN'T REALLY TELL YOU PAGE NUMBER BUT WHEN I WENT THROUGH THE TOTAL OF THE GENERAL FUND, THE GENERAL FUND IS RIGHT NOW FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING AS THE BUDGET REMAINING, THAT IS PROMISING. HAVE SOME CORRECTIONS WE ARE MAKING IN SOME OF THOSE THAT WERE IN THEIR HAVE BEEN CORRECTED. YOU WILL SEE IN JULY COMING UP VERY SOON YOU WILL SEE THE ADJUSTMENTS AND THE REPORT WILL ADDRESS THOSE AT THE TIME. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS REPORT TO MAKE SURE WE GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW THE COUNT IS GOING IN ANY DIRECTION. WE SUBMIT FOR YOUR

ACCEPTANCE. >> ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES . MOVING ON TO ITEM

[3. Discuss and consider approval of the Interlocal Agreement with Community Supervision and Corrections Department (CSCD) Pre-Trial Risk Assessment for the purposes of services and assistance to the Magistrates and the Nueces County District Courts and County Courts of Law to fulfill the additional duties required by Senate Bill 6.]

NUMBER THREE, DISCUSSING APPROVAL WITH THE PRETRIAL RISK ASSESSMENT FOR THE PURPOSES OF SERVICES AND ASSISTANCE THE DISTRICT COUNTY AND COUNTY COURTS OF LAW.

>> WHEN THE BUDGET EXPIRED, WE STARTED FINDING THIS TO THE GENERAL FUND ADMINISTRATION, THE BUDGET IS THERE EACH YEAR WE REQUIRE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN US BECAUSE OUR KENNEDY SERVICES IS AN OFFICIAL DIFFERENT THAN THE COUNTY. THE CONTINUATION OF THIS ASSESSMENT IS NECESSARY FOR HELPING THE COURT AS WELL AS WELL AS THE DUTIES REQUIRED. IF YOU REMEMBER THE LAST POPULATION WE RECEIVED, 85%. WE BELIEVE IS KEEPING THE POPULATION WHERE IT IS AND TRYING TO REDUCE IT AT SOME POINT IN TIME. THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL COST FOR THIS, WE

WILL REQUIRE THIS EACH YEAR. >> SO MOVED.

>> I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. THE MOTION PASSES. ANY OPPOSED , SINCE THERE'S ONLY THREE OF US, SORRY. I DON'T MEAN TO ACT

[1. Discuss and consider approval of Nueces County Juvenile Department request to create eight (8) Mental Health positions and four (4) Community Activities Officers (CAO) part-time (max 29 hours per week) budgeted positions. See attached summary list of part-time positions created. There will be no impact to general fund.]

LIKE I'M NOT ASKING. HUMAN RESOURCES, DISCUSSING THE CONTINUED APPROVAL REQUEST TO CREATE A MENTAL HEALTH POSITIONS AND FOUR COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES THE PART-TIME MAXIMUM OF 29 HOURS AND FEES ARE BUDGETED POSITIONS. WE ARE DOING THIS, LET ME BE CLEAR, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BUDGETED POSITIONS, THEIR FISCAL YEAR ENDS BEFORE OURS DOES. THEIR BUDGET ENDS AUGUST 31ST, NOT SEPTEMBER 30TH THAT IS THE REASON THIS NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED NOW.

>> THINK THE JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. I HAVE MET WITH THE AUDITORS OFFICE. THEY WILL NOT IMPACT THE COUNTY BUDGET, THEY WILL BE RECEIVING FUNDING FROM THE STATE AND OR THE

HOSPITAL DISTRICT. >> LET ME EXPAND ON WHY THIS IS A NECESSARY NEED. ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS AGO, WE WERE AUDITED BY THE IRS AND THE IRS TO NOT ALLOW YOU TO HAVE A FULL-TIME, AND THEY ARE DOING THE SAME TYPE OF FUNCTION SO THAT IS WHY WE ARE NEEDING TO MOVE THIS TO THE IRS FUNCTIONAL

REQUIREMENT. >> SO, THEY'RE ALREADY HERE?

>> THEY ARE JUST GOING TO MAKE THEM TEMPORARY. IT DOESN'T

REALLY CHANGE, JUST MOVES IT. >> IS NOT A BUDGET CHANGE. THIS

IS JUST RECLASSIFYING PEOPLE. >> VIRUS REQUIRE US TO --

>> I GET THAT, HAVING A BUDGET DISCUSSION DURING A NON-BUDGET

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THING I'M JUST MAKING SURE THIS ISN'T A BUDGET THING BECAUSE I AM TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT. I GET THAT THERE IS A NEED, BUT IS THIS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE HAVING A

DISCUSSION AND BUDGET FOR? >> THEIR BUDGET ENDS BEFORE OURS DOES IS THE REASON IT HAS TO BE DONE

>> YOU GUYS DON'T APPROVE THE BUDGET FOR --

>> THIS COMES FROM STATE FUNDS. THEY CANNOT DO THE REGULAR BUDGET IF WE CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, WHY DO WE

EVEN HAVE TO APPROVE THIS? >> BECAUSE WE ARE ASKING THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE UNDER THE STATE, IT SAYS THAT ALL EMPLOYEE RELATED STUFF COMES TO THE COUNCIL.

>> THEY WILL BE NEW POSITIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUDGETED UNDER THE STATE OF OURS. THEY WILL NOW BE EMPLOYEES BUT UNDER GRANT FUNDS. RIGHT NOW THIS CONTRACT SERVICES, THEY ARE NOT

ACTUAL EMPLOYEES. >> WE ARE NOW ADDING MORE EMPLOYEES TO THE COUNTY'S LIABILITY EXPOSURE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. BEFORE THESE, WE ARE JUST CONTRACT PEOPLE .

>> IT IS GRANT FUNDED. IT'S GOING TO BE FUNDED UNDER THE GRANT AND IT IS 100% REIMBURSED. THEY JUST HAVE TO

BECOME COUNTY EMPLOYEES. >> SO, COMMISSIONER THEY ARE

NOT ON OUR HEALTH PLAN. >> THEY ARE NOT ON THE HEALTH

PLAN. >> THIS CHANGE TO WHERE THEY

WOULD COME ON OUR PLAN? >> STATE INSURANCE?

>> THESE ARE PART-TIMERS. SO THEY ARE NOT GOING TO QUALIFY

FOR THOSE BENEFITS. >> SO WHAT HE SAID WAS INCORRECT, THEY ARE NOT ON ANY PLAN.

>> BECAUSE YOU ARE A COUNTY EMPLOYEE --

>> THAT WAS AN INCORRECT STATEMENT. YOU CONFUSE

JUVENILE, I APOLOGIZE. >> THAT WOULD ALSO BE THE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES. THEY DO NOT QUALIFY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE. THEY WOULD NEVER BE UNDER OUR HEALTH INSURANCE PROGRAM. THAT DOES STILL BRING ABOUT A WHOLE DIFFERENT MANY YEARS AGO WE HAD A PART-TIME MEDICAL EXAMINERS COME IN TO HELP US OUT AS WELL AS PART-TIME INVESTIGATORS. SINCE WE HAD FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES DOING THE SAME TASK, THE IRS DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO HAVE AN EMPLOYEE AND A CONTRACTOR IN THE SAME JOB. SO THEY SAID IF YOU DO THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE THEM A EMPLOYEE WHETHER IT IS TEMPORARY OR FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES HAVE TO MAKE THEM EMPLOYEES OF THE COUNTY IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THAT SERVICE.

>> SO WHY ARE WE DOING -- THEY WOULD DO THIS THIS WAY SINCE

WHEN? >> I HAVE BEEN TOLD THEY ALREADY HAVE A FULL-TIME STAFF DOING THESE TASKS. AND SO, BEFORE THE IRS RULES THEY SAID WE CAN DO THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THESE NOW TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES THAT ALLOW THEM TO DO THE SAME TASK. THAT IS NOT EVEN THE DIFFERENCE.

>> THIS IS GONE ON FOR WHAT? >> YEARS AND YEARS.

>> WE DID A CONTRACT AT THE TIME BECAUSE IT WAS JUST EASIER AND THEN WE WERE ADVISED BY AUDITORS AND HR THAT THIS

NEEDED TO BE CHANGED. >> HOW DID THIS JUST COME UP OUT OF NOWHERE? WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS THIS WAY FOR WHAT,

10 YEARS? >> IN WORKDAY, WE NOW ARE ABLE TO SEE SOMETHING THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO. I WAS REVIEWING A NEW CONTRACT PERSON THAT WAS STARTING, THEY WANTED TO GET A VENDOR NUMBER. WE HAD A PERSON ON OUR, IN OUR PAYROLL THAT WAS DOING THE EXACT SAME AND WHENEVER WE REVIEWED THE IRS GUIDELINES FOR WHETHER THIS PERSON IS CONTRACT VERSUS WHETHER THIS PERSON IS AN EMPLOYEE, THEY ARE WORKING AT THIS DIRECTION USING THE COUNTY SUPPLIES, THEY ARE WORKING IN HOURS, THE PERSON THAT IS ASSIGNED TO DO THE JOB IS THE PERSON THEY ARE CONTRACTING WITH, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO

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OUTSOURCE THAT WORK TO SOMEONE ELSE. AND THEREFORE THEY MEET THE CRITERIA OF A EMPLOYEE RATHER THAN A CONTRACT PERSONNEL. AS SOON AS WE BECAME AWARE, WE WANTED TO RECTIFY THE

ISSUE. >> YOU ARE NOW CHANGING IN A POLICY THAT WE'VE DONE IN THIS COUNTY FOR 10 YEARS AT LEAST.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD IT .

>> IF IT IS A COUNTY PAY TEMPORARY, THEY ARE PAID THROUGH PAYROLL. IF IT IS A CONTRACT TEMPLATE THE

THIRD-PARTY AGENCY -- >> WE COULD VERY WELL DO THIS.

IT COULD BE A TEMPORARY POSITION.

>> WHY WOULD WE HAVE THAT OPTION WITH US TODAY. IT'S SO INFURIATES ME, WE COME IN HERE AND SAY THIS HAS TO HAPPEN, WE HAVE TO DO TODAY AND THIS IS THE WAY IT IS AND THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO DO AND I COME UP WITH SOMETHING FIVE MINUTES LATER THIS IS WHY COULD WE HAVE DONE IT THIS WAY AND YOU GO WELL WE COULD'VE, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT THIS WAY AND IT'S NOT URGENT. WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT THIS WAY, WHY CAN WE DO IT ANOTHER WAY? WHY WAS IT PROPOSED THIS WAY? THIS IS TRULY CONTRACT WORK WHICH IS WHAT IT IS --

>> IT IS TRULY MICROPHONE -- >> IT IS CONTRACT WORK, WE HAVE BEEN CONTRACTING THIS FOR YEARS. IT IS CONTRACT WORK.

>> BY IRS DEFINITION THIS IS AN EMPLOYEE, WE ARE PROVIDING THEM

A COMPUTER. >> A NUECES COUNTY TEMP IS PAID THROUGH GENERAL. A CONTRACT IS PAID THROUGH ACCOUNTS PAYABLE.

A CONTRACT HAS RECEIPTS OF 1099. AN EMPLOYEE WHETHER IT BE A COUNTY TEMP, A PART-TIME OR FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE, THOSE RECEIVE A W-2 . THOSE HAVE TAXES WITHHELD.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY IRS GUIDELINES TO SHOW ME THAT YOU ARE CORRECT, YOU SAID WE COULD POSSIBLY DO IT ANOTHER WAY.

>> A TEMP IS STILL THROUGH PAYROLL.

>> WE JUST NEED TO GET OUT OF ACCOUNTS PAYABLE.

>> HE COULD GO THROUGH A TEMPORARY SERVICE.

>> HOW MUCH WOULD A TEMPORARY SERVICE COST US?

>> IT'S NO MORE EXPENSIVE. >> THAN BEING AN EMPLOYEE AND ALL OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS? YOU HAVE TO PAY SOCIAL SECURITY TAXES AND ALL OF THAT FOR EMPLOYEES?

>> HAVE YOU DONE AN ANALYSIS ON THIS BECAUSE TEMPORARY AGENCIES PAY ALL OF THAT STUFF AS PART OF THEIR FEE.

>> YES, THEY COST MORE, THEY CHARGE A MARKUP ON THEIR EMPLOYEES. SO YOU PAY THEM A HIGHER RATES THAN WHAT THE

EMPLOYEE GETS. >> BUT THEY ARE NOT EMPLOYEES.

>> WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE LIABILITY OF AN EMPLOYEE.

>> IF WE GET SUED BECAUSE OF -- I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT IS

YES, BUT IS A SOFTBALL. >> YES YOU ARE CORRECT.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVEN'T MADE A PRESENTATION THAT GIVES US DIFFERENT OPTIONS OTHER THAN THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT AND WE HAVE TO DO IT AND THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO ME AND I THINK WE SHOULD TABLE THIS UNTIL WE HAVE OTHER OPTIONS TO LOOK AT AND WE CAN DO A COST ANALYSIS. THIS IS AGAIN A BUDGET TYPE SITUATION. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO STOP WORKING, THEY CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WHILE THEY DO THIS AND WE NEED TO HAVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO LOOK AT. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL WE HAVE THE OTHER OPTIONS IN FRONT OF US BECAUSE THIS IS, NO OFFENSE IS NOT A GOOD PRESENTATION AND YOU HAVE ADMITTED THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING AND HAVE OTHER OPTIONS IN FRONT OF US. I THINK WE SHOULD TABLE THIS THING UNTIL WE HAVE ALL OF THE OPTIONS IN FRONT OF US. AND ALL OF THE BACKGROUND SO THAT I CAN TAKE IT TO MY ACCOUNTANT AND SEE. QUITE FRANKLY I DON'T AGREE WITH THE ASSESSMENT ON

THIS. >> AND I DO NOT DISAGREE WITH THAT. I HAD MY STAFF CALL AND ASK ABOUT THIS SO I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION BEFORE WE DO YOUR TABLE IF YOU DON'T MIND, COMMISSIONER. WHEN WE CALLED, WE WERE TOLD THAT THIS WAS MANDATORY, IT HAD TO GO AND THERE WAS A DEADLINE AND I THOUGHT WE HAD RECEIVED NOTIFICATION FROM SOMEONE THAT WE WERE NOT DOING IT, I THOUGHT THERE WAS A NOTIFICATION THAT WE WERE NOT DOING IT CORRECTLY AND WE COULD BE IN TROUBLE FOR IRS REASONS NOT TAKING CARE OF THIS.

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>> HE WANTS TO TABLE AND BRING IT BACK WITH OPTIONS SO I WILL

SECOND HIS MOTION. >> HE SEES ME, JUDGE. SO THEY DO QUALIFY FOR ALL OF THE BENEFITS INCLUDING RETIREMENT?

>> PART-TIME EMPLOYEES DO NOT -- PART-TIME EMPLOYEES DO NOT REQUIRE, ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR INSURANCE IN THESE POSITIONS THEY ARE 100% REIMBURSED BY HOSPITAL DISTRICT WHETHER IT IS

CONTRACT. >> ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AND I ASSUME THIS WILL BE ON THE AUGUST 21ST MEETING, BRING IT BACK. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN THE MOTION PASSES.

>> ARE YOU READY TO PROCEED WITH YOUR ITEM YOU ASKED ME TO BRING BACK? IT IS RELIGIOUS AN INVITATION FOR BIDS BUT MY NOTES SAID WE WERE WAITING ON A SIGNED DOCUMENT SO DO WE WANT TO GO OUT ON A BID FOR SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION AND PAPERWORK FOR? OR DO YOU WANT ME TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER EXECUTIVE . I WOULD DEFER TO MICHAEL THAT IT

WOULDN'T HURT US. >> WOULD IT BE ALL RIGHT IF WE PERMIT A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS SUBJECT TO THE APPROPRIATE

DOCUMENTATION? >> IT IS NOT OURS, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ANYWAY BUT WE CAN GO OUT FOR BIDS AND SEE WHAT THE

OPTIONS ARE. >> I BELIEVE THE INTENT HAS BEEN EXPRESSED TO MY OFFICE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH US TO GET THE DOCUMENTS CORRECTED. IF IT'S NOT DONE TODAY AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE SEARCHING RIGHT NOW TO SEE IF IT'S BEEN FILED THEY'VE ALSO REACHED OUT AND LEFT A MESSAGE.

I CAN'T CONFIRM THAT IT IS DONE YET.

>> IF WE APPROVE IT IN THAT MANNER, I STILL HAVE TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THE DRAWINGS. THERE GOING TO BE SOME DAYS. THAT

WILL PROBABLY LIKELY -- >> I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS THEM WITH THAT INFORMATION MOVING FORWARD AS LONG AS IT IS CONTINGENT. WE CAN TO WORK ON SOMEONE'S PROPERTY THAT THEY DON'T DEED OVER TO US. THAT HAS BEEN A QUESTION ON THIS ONE

ITEM FROM DAY ONE. >> WE WON'T ADVERTISE THAT BID

UNTIL THAT IS DONE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON ITEM V1. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE, THE MOTION PASSES. SO

[4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.]

NOW WE ARE CLEARED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT I PASSED THAT WE NEED TO GO BACK TO, ANYBODY? SO, EXECUTIVE SESSION, PUBLIC NOTICES GIVEN AT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY ELECT TO GO INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ANYTIME DURING THE MEETING TO DISCUSS MATTERS LISTED ANYWHERE ON THE AGENDA WHEN AUTHORIZED BY THE PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. TO THE EXTENT THERE IS BEEN A PAST PRACTICE OF DISTINGUISHING ITEMS FOR PUBLIC DELIBERATION AND THOSE FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION. THE PUBLIC IS ADVISED THAT THE COURT THE PARTY FROM THAT PRACTICE AND RESERVES THE RIGHT TO DISCUSS ANY AGENDA ITEMS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WHEN AUTHORIZED BY THE LAW TO DO SO.

IN THE EVENT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT ELECTS TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CODE, 551.076, 551.0786, 551.087, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL HOLD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH ATTORNEYS INCLUDING MATTERS RELATED TO LITIGATION, DELIBERATE REGARDING REAL PROPERTY, PERSPECTIVE GIFTS , PERSONAL MATTERS, COUNTY ADVISORY BODIES, SECURITY DEVICES AND/OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND OTHER MATTERS THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. UPON COMPLETION OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY IN AN OPEN SESSION TAKE SUCH ACTION AS APPROPRIATE ON ITEMS DISCUSSED IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. ITEM H DAYS CONSULT

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WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ON LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO FEDERAL REIMBURSEMENT OF COVID-19 RELATED EXPENSES FOR RCA LABORATORY SERVICES AND RELATED MATTERS. TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071 DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND TAKE ACTION IN REGULAR SESSION IF NEEDED. ITEM B, CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ON LEGAL MATTERS REGARDING DISTRIBUTION OF DOCUMENTS PREPARED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR COMMISSIONERS COURT TO SOCIAL SERVICES AND ALL RELATED MATTERS, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071, DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON THE SAME IN OPEN SESSION IF NECESSARY. AND IT IS 10:50, AND WE ARE GOING TO EXECUTIVE.

>> YES, MA'AM . >> THANK YOU. IT IS 11:34 AND WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. I WOULD LIKE TO PULL UP THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10. WE WANT TO CANCEL THE 12TH MEETING AND TO MOVE THAT AND INCLUDE IT ON THE AUGUST 14 MEETING STARTING AT 8:30. WE WILL DO THE BUDGET MEETING PORTION FIRST AND THEN HAVE THE GRANTS AFTER THAT

MEETING ON THE SAME DAY. >> AND THAT STARTS AT 8:30 ON

THE 14TH? >> YES.

>> I WOULD SECOND THAT IF THAT IS THE MOTION.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY

AYE. >> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. >> JUDGE, I HAVE ANOTHER ITEM.

>> SURE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO RECONSIDER THE TABLED ITEM, NUMBER NINE, TO REVISIT THAT ISSUE TODAY.