[1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:56] CHOSE US FROM THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE WORLD , ANYTHING THAT WAS CREATED , YOU CHOSE US. EVEN THIS MOMENT IN TIME, YOU KNEW WHO WOULD BE GATHERED IN THIS ROOM, WHO WOULD BE PRESENT, WHO WOULD BE CHOSEN TO BE ON THIS PANELING BOARD AND I AM GRATEFUL TO YOU, THEY ARE HERE BY YOUR DIVINE APPOINTMENT. LORD, I PRAY TODAY, THE SCRIPTURES SAID LET'S IT BE THE LORD WHO DAILY LOADS US UP WITH BENEFITS, THE GOD OF OUR SALVATION, I PRAY FOR EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM THAT THEY WOULD BE BLESSED ABUNDANTLY, MORE THAN THEY CAN ASK OR THINK, IN JESUS NAME I ASK YOU TO DO ALL THESE THINGS, AMEN. >> AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> THANK YOU, YOU MAY BE SEATED. >> IT IS WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER THE 15TH. IT IS 908 , WE HAVE ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT PRESENT , WE ARE IN THE HE NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE AT 901 LEOPARD, I WILL CERTIFY, WE HAVE A QUORUM. MOVING ON TO ITEM D ANNOUNCEMENT ON DISCLOSURES OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, IF ANYBODY HAS WHAT AND WITH HIS [1. In recognition of Marcial Martinez, Jr.'s 30 years of service with Nueces County.] -- WISHES TO DISCLOSE THAT. YOU CAN ALSO BRING THAT UP. THE NUN, WE WILL MOVE ON , 30 YEARS OF SERVICE WITH NUECES. I THINK, HELLO. 30 YEARS, PRETTY AWESOME. >> GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. I STAND BEFORE YOU TO BID FAREWELL TO A CAREER THAT HAS SPANNED 30 YEARS. I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY >> CAN YOU SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE? >> SORRY. >> I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK-- WORK ALONG SOME OF THE MOST DEDICATED, SKILLED MEN AND WOMEN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, I THINK EACH ONE OF THEM FOR THEIR GUIDANCE AND SUPPORT THROUGH THE YEARS , TO MY FAMILY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE, SUPPORT, AND ALLOWING ME TO DO WHAT I LOVE. I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEW CHAPTER IN MY LIFE AND WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER THE AMAZING PEOPLE WHO ENABLED ME TO LIVE OUT MY DREAMS THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, WE ARE SO GRATEFUL. UNDERSTAND THAT SHE RETIRED FROM NUECES COUNTY. WE HAVE A SYMBOLIC WATCH, IT HAS NOT BEEN ENGRAVED. I WANT TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH YOU. WE WOULD LOVE TO GET A PHOTO. IF YOU WOULD LIKE YOUR PARENTS TO COME TOO. [1. In recognition of "World Prematurity Day" - November 17, 2023.] [00:06:26] WORLD PREMATURITY DAY. I BELIEVE PEYTON IS GOING TO READ THAT. >> GOOD MORNING. THE MARCH OF DIMES FOUNDATION WORKS TO PROMOTE THE HEALTH OF INFANTS AND WOMEN BY SUPPORTING RESEARCH, LEADING PROGRAMS, AND PROVIDING EDUCATION AND ADVOCACY. PREMATURE BIRTH IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH IN NEWBORN BASES. PREMATURITY IS DEFINED AS BIRTH BEFORE 37 COMPLETED WEEKS OF GESTATION. PREMATURE BABIES MAY SUFFER COMPLICATIONS AND LIFELINE -- LIFELONG COMPLICATIONS. WHEREAS, IN TEXAS, MARCH OF DIMES HAS WORKED EXTENSIVELY TO ADVOCATE FOR MOMS AND BABIES WITH ABOUT 80,000 BABIES BORN CREAM -- PREMATURE EVERY YEAR. THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER IS RECOGNIZED AS PREMATURITY AWARENESS MONTH. NOVEMBER 17TH IS RECOGNIZED AS PREMATURE DAY. BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE COMMISSIONER COURT OF NUECES COUNTY DECLARES NOVEMBER 17TH AS WORLD PREMATURE DAY IN NUECES COUNTY. IT FURTHER ENCOURAGES THE CITIZENS TO LEARN ABOUT THE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH PREMATURE BIRTHS AND WHAT THEY CAN DO TO LOWER PREMATURE BIRTH RATES. DULY ADOPTED, ON THIS 15TH DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2023. >> I WILL MAKE THE MOTION. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND, ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. MISS SUE, I THINK YOU ARE HERE, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO US? WE ARE ALL WEARING OUR PURPLE TODAY. >> GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU ALL THAT KNEW IN ADVANCE FOR WEARING PURPLE, I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT. I WILL TRY TO KEEP THIS SHORT BUT I WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS. ANYBODY THAT HAS KNOWN ME FOR MORE THAN 10 MINUTES KNOWS I'M AN AVID SUPPORTER OF MARCH OF DIMES, I HAVE AND FOR OVER 25 YEARS. UNFORTUNATELY WE NO LONGER HAVE A LOCAL OFFICE AND A LOCAL WALK EACH YEAR, BUT STILL, YOU WILL SEE ME IN THE SPRINGTIME WEARING MY LITTLE EARRINGS AND ASKING FOR DONATIONS , DOING MY RAFFLES, ALL OF THAT DIFFERENT STUFF. PREMATURITY IS DEFINED AS ANY , BEING BORN BEFORE 37 WEEKS. A LATE PRETERM IS BETWEEN 34 AND 36 WEEKS . VERY PRETERM IS AT OR BELOW 32 WEEKS , AND EXTREMELY PRETERM IS AT OR BELOW 28 WEEKS. THERE IS NOW ANOTHER CATEGORY , EXCUSE ME, WHICH IS A MICRO PREEMIE , THAT IS A BABY BORN WEIGHING LESS THAN ONE POUND 12 OUNCES, OR BEFORE 26 WEEKS. THE MARCH OF DIMES , WE MAY ALL KNOW, WAS CREATED IN 1938, THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE WAS TO FIND THE CURES FOR POLIO WHICH WAS DONE , THE NEXT MISSION WAS TO HELP FIGHT BIRTH DEFECTS AND INFANT MORTALITY . THE SHIFT [00:10:07] HAS BEEN , THE MOMENTUM HAS KIND OF SHIFTED TO HEALTHY PREGNANCIES AND, ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, THE MAIN FOCUS, A LOT OF THE FOCUS CAME TO THE PREMATURITY . THIS IS THE SIZE OF A NORMAL NEWBORN DIAPER. THIS ONE IS FOR A PREEMIE , THIS ONE, I'M SORRY, THAT'S MY GIFT CARD, THIS IS FOR A MICRO PREEMIE, THIS IS FOR A BABY, DESIGNED FOR A BABY THAT WEIGHS 1.7 POUNDS. I HAVE MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT THIS ONE, I GET SAD THINKING THAT BABIES ARE BORN IN THE SMALL, BUT IT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE BEING BORN AND HOW MANY OF THEM ACTUALLY SURVIVE. WHETHER IT IS DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY , PROBABLY EVERYONE IN HERE HAS BEEN IMPACTED BY PREMATURITY. ACTUALLY, I HAVEN'T MYSELF, BUT I HAVE WRENS AND FAMILY THAT HAVE HAD PREEMIE BABIES . THEY ARE ALL, LUCKILY, DOING VERY WELL. IT IS WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE MARCH OF DIMES THAT SO MUCH OF THIS HAS COME ABOUT. I THINK YOU FOR MAKING THE PROCLAMATION . ON FRIDAY, THE 17TH, WHICH IS ACTUALLY PREMATURITY AWARENESS, WORLD PREMATURITY DAY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF , AGAIN, EVERYBODY COULD WEAR SOME FORM OF PURPLE, IF WE COULD TURN THE COUNTY PURPLE FOR THE DAY. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR YEARS OF CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS WORTHY CAUSE TOO. I HAD A PREEMIE GREAT GRANDBABY. WE ARE VERY THANKFUL FOR ALL OF THE WORK AND RESEARCH , DOCTORS, EVERYONE. >> DALE CAN ATTEST, I HAVE THE OFFICE VERY WELL TRAINED, PEOPLE COME IN AND THEY SEE MY LITTLE RELATED TO THE MARCH OF DIMES AND THEY ASK A QUESTION, SOMEBODY WILL, INEVITABLY ANSWERED, IT IS FOR THE BABIES. >> VERY TRUE. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE THIS FOR YOU. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE SIGNED BY ONE MORE PERSON , BUT DID YOU WANT TO DO A PHOTO WITH US? YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME. I JUST DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TWO. [G. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.] OKAY, WE ARE MOVING INTO PUBLIC COMMENT. I SAW SEVERAL PEOPLE COME IN, IF YOU DID NOT SIGN IN PLEASE DO SO AND WE WILL ADD YOU TO THE LIST LATER. JOE ORTIZ, YOU HAVE READ MINUTES, WE CANNOT RESPOND, IF YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS WHEN YOU GET TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE. >> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS JOE ORTIZ I LIVE AT 2505 PRESS, I CAME HERE A TIME AGO ASKING FOR YOU ALL TO BE MORE CREATIVE IN THE WAY YOU OBTAIN FUNDS, ONE OF THEM WAS THE PLANNING, THE NUECES COUNTY PLANNING, COME TO FIND OUT THAT ONE OF YOUR COMMISSIONERS BROUGHT THIS UP BUT ANOTHER ONE CONTRADICTED IT, SAYING THAT THE ASSOCIATION, HE GOT IN CONTACT WITH THE BILLERS ASSOCIATION SAYING IT WAS NOT TRUE. THIS IS WHAT WE NEED, WE NEED TO FIND OUT IF WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS REALLY TRUE, THIS WAS INVESTIGATED AND FOUND OUT THAT [00:15:02] NUECES COUNTY IS NOT GETTING PAID BY THE CITY AND THE WAY THAT THEY ARE DOING THE PLANNING, THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY, THAT IS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT THE COUNTY COULD BE GETTING FROM THE CITY. IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOUR TAXES ARE NOT GOING TO BE AS HIGH IF YOU GET MORE MONEY. WE HAVE A SHORT CALL, LET'S KEEP UP AND FIND OUT WAYS OF GETTING MONEY AND CREATIVE WAYS, IN ORDER FOR THE CITIZENS OF NUECES COUNTY NOT TO BE TAXED AS MUCH , WHO KNOWS, BY GETTING THOSE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM THE PLANNING, YOU COULD HIRE THREE OR FOUR MORE COUNTY OFFICERS TO CLIMB DOWN , ONE OTHER THING, I HAVE HAD SEVERAL PHONE CALLS FROM DISTRICT 3 ABOUT LOST COLOGNE YES PEOPLE, PLANING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE , THEY NEED HELP. THEY SAID THAT THEY KEEP CALLING HERE IN, NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE , THEY WILL NOT RETURN PHONE CALLS. I'M ASKING YOU ALL, AS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS , PLEASE RESPOND TO THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY NEED THE HELP. IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN DRAINAGE AND WATER, FRESHWATER, FROM THE COUNTY. THAT IS ALL I'M ASKING, PLEASE RETURN THE PHONE CALLS IN MY DISTRICT , THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> CRAIG PETERSON. >> ALL RIGHT, GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS DR. CRAIG PETERSON I LIVE AT 15360 GYPSY STREET, I AM ONE OF THE MEMBERS WITH THE MEDICINE PROGRAM. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR THE SUPPORT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY. IT HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY MOVING TO HEAR PATIENTS, FAMILY MEMBERS, AND OTHERS SPEAK ON OUR SUPPORT. I ALSO WISH TO EXPRESS SINCERE THANKS TO OUR MAYOR AND ALL MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL FOR GIVING US AN AUDIENCE. WE WERE INEXPERIENCED AND MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE APPLAUDED WHEN WE SHOULD HAVE, BUT YOU WERE GRACIOUS NONETHELESS. I CANNOT SPEAK HIGHLY ENOUGH OF THE SUPPORT WE RECEIVED FROM JUDGE SCOTT ON THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. YOU HAVE TRULY GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND. SOME COMMISSIONERS HAVE GONE SO FAR AS TO ATTEND AND SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU HAVE BEEN EXCELLENT REPRESENTATIVES OF YOUR CONSTITUENCY. I AM VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE CARE AND ATTENTION YOU HAVE PAID TO THIS ISSUE. HE MOVED QUICKLY AND DECISIVELY. THANK YOU FOR TAKING ACTION. AS GRATEFUL AS I AM FOR ALL OF YOU AND YOUR EFFORTS ON OUR BEHALF, I AM CONCERNED THAT THE TENTATIVE AGREEMENT THAT PROVIDES FUNDING FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WILL NOT BE ENOUGH TO ENSURE LONG-TERM SURVIVAL, LET ALONE SUCCESS FOR THE RESIDENCY PROGRAM. IT TAKES 36 MEANT-- MONTHS TO COMPLETE RESIDENCY. EFFECTIVELY, IT IS A 48 MONTH CYCLE. IN THE FALL OF 2024 WE WILL BE RECRUITING THE CLASS OF 2028. WHEN THAT CLASS IS IN THEIR FINAL YEAR THE INTERNS, AT THAT TIME, WILL NOT HAVE FUNDING. PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, A FIVE-YEAR EXTENSION ONLY DELAYS THIS BY ONE YEAR, AT A COST OF $18 MILLION IN ADDITION TO THE FUNDING ALREADY RECEIVED. WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RECRUIT RESIDENTS IN GOOD FAITH TO A PROGRAM THAT WILL NOT EXIST FOR THE DURATION OF THEIR TRAINING. MANY OF THEM WILL TRANSFER TO OTHER PROGRAMS. DUE TO THE ROLLING NATURE , RESIDENCY PROGRAM CAN ONLY OPERATE AT A FULLY FUNCTIONING CAPACITY WITH THE PROMISE OF LONGEVITY. THOSE WITH HIGH SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN ARE NO DOUBT LOOKING TO -- LOOKING FORWARD. DEGREES THAT THOSE INSTITUTIONS ARE ONLY GUARANTEED TO 2029, IT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE AS A PARENT TO SUPPORT YOUR CHILD'S CHOICE OF A SCHOOL KNOWING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO TRANSFER BEFORE ■ COMPLETING THEIR DEGREE, NO MATTER HOW STORIED THE INSTITUTION IS. THIS BRINGS EVEN MORE TRUE FOR RESIDENCY TRAINING WHICH IS THE CULMINATION OF MOST PHYSICIANS ACADEMIC JOURNEYS. THE FOUNDATION IN WHICH THEIR CAREER IN MEDICINE IS BUILT. WITH SUCH UNCERTAINTY WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RECRUIT, IN GOOD FAITH, NOR WOULD STUDENTS CHOOSE TO TRAIN HERE REGARDLESS OF HOW WELL TRAINED CURRENT AND PAST RESIDENTS ARE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION IN THE MATTER, I KNOW WE CAN FIND A RESOLUTION TOGETHER THAT ENSURES QUALITY CARE FOR DECADES TO COME, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. MICHAEL ABEYTA YOUR. -- >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL BORDOER, [00:20:06] I AM ONE OF THE CORE TEACHING FACULTY AT THE E.R. RESIDENCY PROGRAM. I COME HERE TODAY FIRST TO SAY THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR HEARING THE OUTCRY FROM OUR FACULTY, RESIDENTS, AND COMMUNITY OVER THE ANNOUNCED CLOSURE OF THE ONLY E.R. TRAINING PROGRAM IN THE COASTAL BEND. I HAVE READ, WITH GREAT INTEREST, THE NEWS OF FUNDING THAT WOULD ALLOW OUR PROGRAM TO CONTINUE FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS. I HEARD ABOUT THIS THROUGH THE LOCAL NEWS. FIVE YEARS OF FUNDING SOUNDS WONDERFUL TO A PROGRAM THAT RECEIVED WERE JUST OVER A MONTH AGO OF A PHASEOUT, WHICH PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, AMOUNTED TO A CLOSER NEXT YEAR. I HAVE A CONCERN, MY FEARS IMPLEMENTATION OF A PLAN THAT DOES NOT ACHIEVE WHAT YOU MAY HAVE BEEN LED TO BELIEVE IT WOULD , AND THAT GREAT EXPENSE TO THE TAXPAYERS OF THE COUNTY, AS REPORTED ON LOCAL NEWS FOR $18 MILLION THE PROGRAM WOULD BE SAVED FOR FIVE MORE YEARS, BUT I AM CONCERNED THAT THE PROGRAM WOULD NOT BE SAVED FOR NECESSARILY EVEN MORE THAN A YEAR AND HERE IS WHY, AND CHD FUNDING WOULD AGAIN FOR THE 2024 TO 2025 ACADEMIC YEAR WHICH STARTS IN JUNE, NEXT OCTOBER, WHICH IS LESS THAN ONE YEAR AWAY WE WOULD START RECRUITING AND INTERVIEWING FOR OUR CLASS OF 2028. THIS CLASS WOULD GRADUATE IN JUNE OF 2028 AT THE END OF THE FOURTH YEAR OF FUNDING , THE CLASS OF 2028 WOULD BE THIRD-YEAR RESIDENTS THAT YEAR, THE PROBLEM IS THAT FIRST-YEAR RESIDENTS IN THE 2027 TO 2028 YEAR WOULD NOT HAVE GUARANTEED FUNDING TO FINISH THEIR TRAINING , THAT MEANS THAT NO INCOMING FIRST-YEAR RESIDENT WHICH YOU -- WOULD CHOOSE TO TRAIN. THE CLASS OF 2028 WOULD GRADUATE WITHOUT HAVING A FULL COMPLEMENT OF RESIDENTS AT THE PROGRAM, THIS IS THE LIFEBLOOD OF A PROGRAM. I'M TELLING YOU THIS TODAY BECAUSE IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED UNETHICAL TO EVEN INTERVIEW RESIDENTS NEXT YEAR BECAUSE OF HOW THEIR TRAINING WOULD BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY THIS PLAN . FOR $18 MILLION WE ARE NOT GETTING FIVE YEARS. WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY GETTING CLOSE TO A FULL YEAR. IF MY RESIDENCY PROGRAM LEADERSHIP HAD BEEN ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE DISCUSSIONS, THAT ERROR IN REASONING COULD HAVE BEEN EASILY AVOIDED , BUT THERE WAS AN NDA, UNFORTUNATELY NO REPRESENTATIVES FROM MY PROGRAM WERE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE , PERHAPS THIS COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF THEY HAD COME TO THE SPECIAL COMMITTEE FORMED BY JUDGE CONNIE SCOTT OVER THE ISSUE, WE APPRECIATE THIS. THERE IS ANOTHER WAY. THIS WAY ISN'T HAVING OUR E.R. TRAINING PROGRAM TRANSFER TO ANOTHER SYSTEM HERE IN CORPUS, AND CHD WOULD NOT SPEND $18 MILLION, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THEIR VISION FOR HEALTHCARE AND E.R. TRAINING WOULD REMAIN IN CORPUS WHERE FACULTY AND RESIDENTS ARE VALUED FOR THE BENEFITS WE BRING TO ALL, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> MARILYN BORDOER . >> GOOD MORNING JUDGE SCOTT AND COMMISSIONERS , I AM MARILYN BORDOER, I AM THE DENTIST WHO IS MARRIED TO DOC HER MICHAEL BORDOER. I WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW FOR ADDITIONAL DATA POINTS THAT HAVE EMERGED SINCE WE LAST CAME , AND A PROMISING SOLUTION. WEDNESDAY LAST WEEK, THEY AGREED TO FIVE YEARS OF AND CHD FUNDING FOR $18 MILLION. I ASSUME THAT FIVE YEARS WAS THE LONGEST TERM THAT THE AND CHD COULD NEGOTIATE, AS YOU JUST HEARD, THIS ONLY TAKES THE CANNED DOWN THE ROAD UNTIL OCTOBER OF NEXT YEAR THIS REAFFIRMS WHAT WE ARTY KNOW, RESPOND DOES NOT REALLY WANT AN EM RESIDENCY PROGRAM . DATA POINT NUMBER TWO, YESTERDAY, SPOT ANNOUNCED CONFERENCE SPACES USED TO TEACH RESIDENTS WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE FROM NOW UNTIL MARCH 31ST. THEY NEEDED FOR COMPUTER TRAINING. I CAN DISTRIBUTE THIS MEMO IF DESIRED. AGAIN, THE RESIDENCY STAFF WAS NOT CONSULTED AHEAD OF TIME TO FIND A SOLUTION. CLASSROOM TEACHING IS A REQUIREMENT OF ACADEMIC TRAINING AND THEY ARE JUST NOT COMMITTED TO ACADEMIC TRAINING. AGAIN, IT APPEARS FROM THEIR ACTIONS THAT THEY DO NOT WANT THIS RESIDENCY. DATA POINT NUMBER THREE. THEY PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED YESTERDAY, AT THE NCHD MEETING THAT THEY WOULD BE A WILLING HOME FOR THE PROGRAM , FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THEY WOULD NOT NEED ONGOING YEARLY FUNDING, PERHAPS SOME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUNDS TO PROPERLY HOUSE THE PROGRAM. THIS WOULD BE MUCH LESS THAN $18 MILLION . MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE PROGRAM COULD CONTINUE ON WITH OUT A TIME LIMIT ON FUNDING . THEY ARE WILLING TO PUT A RING ON IT. DATA POINT NUMBER FOUR, [00:25:04] FACULTY HAVE CONFIRMED WITH AC GME THAT PROGRAM TRANSFERS ARE INDEED ALLOWED BETWEEN HOSPITALS. THE AC GME IS THE ACCREDITING BODY THAT GIVES THEIR STAMP OF APPROVAL ON RESIDENCIES. THEY SIMPLY REQUIRE, FOR BOTH SYSTEMS TO SIGN SOME FORMS AND THEN THE PROGRAM CAN MOVE. FROM THESE FOUR DATA POINTS, A PROMISING SOLUTION EMERGES AND EVERYONE CAN WIN. I WILL ASK THE COURT TODAY WHAT I ASKED THE NCHD YESTERDAY, CAN WE NEGOTIATE A TRANSFER OF THIS PROGRAM . CAN SPOHN BE RELEASED FROM THEIR CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION FOR TWO RESIDENCIES IF THEY AGREE TO A TRANSFER. CAN WE MAKE THIS LONG-TERM SOLUTION HAPPEN. SPOHN WINS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE TO KEEP THE PROGRAM THEY DO NOT WANT, HCA WOODS BECAUSE THEY CAN RECEIVE A PROGRAM THEY DO WANT. RESIDENTS WIN BECAUSE THEIR TRAINING IS SAFE. THE COUNTY AND NCHD WHEN, THIS FREES UP MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO USE ELSEWHERE. MOST IMPORTANT, THE COMMUNITY WINS BECAUSE WE CAN KEEP WORLD-CLASS EMERGENCY MEDICAL CARE. I REALIZE THAT THIS IS A BIG ASK, ADDING AN ADDITIONAL PARTY TO NEGOTIATIONS IS HARDER IN THE SHORT RUN, HOWEVER, I BELIEVE WE CAN FIGURE THIS OUT AND MAYBE WE CAN ALL CELEBRATE AT A HOOKS GAME WHEN THIS IS OVER, THANK YOU. >> JUAN RAMIREZ. >> GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE JUDGE SCOTT AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, MY NUMB -- MY NAME IS DR. JUAN RAMIREZ. I HAVE BEEN HERE IN THE COMMUNITY FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS, SINCE THEN, SIX YEARS ACTUALLY, SINCE THEN I HAVE BEEN THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR . JUST TO START, I'M GOING TO BE BRIEF, I KNOW EVERYBODY HAS THINGS TO DO TODAY, JUST TO START, EVEN THOUGH THE RESIDENCY PROGRAM BELONGS TO SPOHN , THAT IS NOT MY HOSPITAL. WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF AND IF IT'S WE HAVE STILL GREAT BENEFITS FROM THE RESIDENCE. EVERY YEAR I GET SOME OF THE RESIDENCE COMING TO WORK FOR ME. THEY ARE COMING TO WORK AS NEW MITERS SINCE WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH DOCTORS IN THE COMMITTEE. THAT IS A LIFESAVER FOR US , IT SUPPORTS OUR SYSTEM. THE RESIDENCY PROGRAM IS NOT ONLY AN ASSET FOR THE HOSPITAL, BUT IS AN ASSET FOR THE COMMUNITY , THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE VERY CLEAR, THE RESIDENCY IS NEEDED AND IT DOESN'T ONLY BENEFIT ONE SYSTEM, IT BENEFITS BOTH SYSTEMS. I KNOW GOING TO KATRINA I WAS TRAINED IN NEW ORLEANS AND I WENT TO KATRINA. I HAD TO LIVE UNDER THE BRIDGE OF BATON ROUGE FOR SIX MONTHS IT IS A DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW. IT IS SOMETHING COMPARABLE WITH THE HORRIBLE FEELING OF NOT HAVING A HOME . THAT IS WHY I SHOW A LOT OF SYMPATHY WITH THE SITUATION AND WHAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH ALL OF THESE PROCESSES. OUR CEO CONFIRMED YESTERDAY THAT HE IS WILLING TO WORK WITH A SPONSOR LINE LEADERSHIP . HE IS WILLING TO WORK WITH THE NUECES COUNTY MEDICAL DISTRICT. THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT WE WANT TO SAY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HERE , AND WHATEVER THE DECISION IS MADE , WE WILL SUPPORT EITHER WAY. I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT THE PROGRAM IS STRONG , I PERSONALLY HAVE SUPERVISED THE RESIDENCE COMING FROM THE PROGRAM , AND I PERSONALLY HAVE GIVEN RECOMMENDATIONS WHEN THEY MOVE UP IN THE LETTER FOR FUTURE TRAINING OR FOR BEZEL HOSS -- BETTER HOSPITALS OR FOR GOING OUT OF TOWN. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. VERONICA WILSON. >> GOOD MORNING JUDGE, GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS, IS IT A LITTLE BIT COLD? >> I TURNED THE FAN ON. GOOD MORNING, I AM VERONICA WILSON I LIVE AT 19 GREAT LAKES DRIVE. I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE MEETING [00:30:07] LATER TODAY REGARDING THE POSSIBILITY OF THE EMERGENCY RESIDENCY PROGRAM TO SERVE AS THE BASIS FOR THE FUTURE AGREEMENT RELATING TO THE E.R. RESIDENCY PROGRAM. SO SPOHN HAS REFUSED TO SHOW ANY, ANY OF THE SPECIAL COMMITTEE MEETINGS THAT JUDGE SCOTT HAS FORMED EXPRESSLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF WORKING TOGETHER TO SAVE THE PROGRAM. IN DOING SO, OKAY, THEY DISRESPECT THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY AND THEY ARE SHOWING US , IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, THAT HEY HAVE MADE UP THEIR MINDS AND THEY WILL DISMANTLE THIS PROGRAM. SPOHN REFUSES TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE DOCTORS IN ANY WAY AND HAS BARELY SPOKEN TO THEM SINCE I LAST ADDRESS THIS COURT ON OCTOBER 24TH. AS YOU JUST HEARD, THEY ARE SETTING THEM OUT OF THEIR CLASSROOMS. AT THIS PODIUM , THEY TOLD US WHAT THE PLAN IS. THEY WANT 162 FAMILY MEDICAL CLINICS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY , COULD IT BE THAT THESE 162 CLINICS THAT THEY WANT TO OPEN WILL DERIVE-- DRIVE OUT TAXPAYING PRIMARY CARE OFFICES. WHEN THEY OPEN THE 162 CLINICS THOSE CLINICS WILL NOT BE PAYING PROPERTY TAXES, THEY WILL HAVE A LEG UP ON EVERYONE ELSE WHO DOES HAVE -- WHO DOES PAY TAXES. TO RECAP, SPOHN PROPOSES TO SHUTDOWN THE PROGRAM IN THREE YEARS, THEN WE, THE COMMUNITY, COUNTER WITH NO, PLEASE DON'T DO THAT. NOW, SPOHN'S COUNTEROFFER IS TO SHUTDOWN THE PROGRAMS IN FIVE YEARS, BUT WE PAY THEM TO DO IT. OF THE NUMBERS I'M HEARING ARE 18 MILLION TO 21.25 MILLION , THEY ARE LITERALLY ASKING US FOR A BONUS CHECK TO DESTROY THE PROGRAM, A BONUS CHECK THAT THEY COULD POSSIBLY USE TO BUILD THESE 162 CLINICS AND COULD PUT ALL OF THE TAXPAYING GENERAL PRACTITIONER OFFICES AND E.R. CLINICS OUT OF BUSINESS. PLEASE, IF THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT CANNOT SEE WHAT WE SEE, PLEASE STEP IN AND STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING, GET THE RESIDENCY PROGRAM INTO A PLACE THAT WANTS THEM, HCA WANTS THEM. HELP THEM UNTIL WE CAN FIND A MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION, THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY. >> THANK YOU. DAVID GILMORE. >> GOOD MORNING, DAVID GILMER, 7934 RANCHO BEAST BOULEVARD, I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON WASTE DISPOSAL, I NUMBER 3249 DASH 23. THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE IT WAS MY FIRST MEETING AND IT WAS NICE TO SEE THE ATTENTION TO DETAIL, THE REFERRING TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ON DIFFERENT TOPICS THAT YOU GUYS WERE DISCUSSING TO MAKE SURE THAT VERBIAGE WAS IN THE CONTRACTS TO PROTECT YOURSELVES. THAT BEING SAID, COMING TO THIS AGREEMENT, IT STARTS WITH THE DETAILS, IT STARTS WITH FILING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO BID , REQUIRING DOCUMENTS NOT PROVIDED BY THE CURRENT PROVIDER, HERE WE ARE, AGAIN, I'M GOING AROUND VISITING THE DIFFERENT APARTMENTS WITH THE CONTAINERS, I HAVE SHOWED YOU THE VIDEOS OF THE COMPACTORS, THE SECOND ONE, BOTH HAVE BEEN PULLED NOW, I WENT DOWN TODAY TO CHECK , STILL NO SAFETY SWITCH ON THAT, THE DOOR IS STILL OPEN AND IT RUNS, IT IS NOT LEAKING THIS TIME, BUT THANK GOD THEY HAVE THE TRUSTY BROOM UP THERE TO PUSH THE DOOR OPEN TO HOLD IT SO THAT THE WIND DOES NOT CATCH IT AND EMPLOYEES CAN LOADED. THESE ARE THE ATTENTION TO DETAILS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF BY THE PROVIDER THAT IS DOING IT FOR YOU GUYS NOW. THIS IS WHAT REPUBLIC STANDS FOR. WE HAVE THREE BRAND PILLARS, SAFETY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE DONE SAFELY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AND YOUR EMPLOYEES. RELIABILITY, WE ARE GOING TO DO WHAT WE SAY, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS DONE IN THE CORRECT WAY, AND THAT WE HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL RESPONSIBLE. YOU CANNOT HAVE LEAKS GOING DOWN IN THE SEWERS, THE DRAINS. THESE ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO REPUBLIC SERVICES, THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO SEPARATE US, A $730 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CONTRACTS THAT, RIGHT NOW, THAT YOU GUYS ARE PAYING TO WHAT IT WOULD BE WITH US. I HAVE NEVER SEEN A CONTRACT OR A GO DOWN IN THREE YEARS, BUT IT IS PRETTY EVIDENT WHY YOU CAN GET THINGS DONE CHEAPLY IF NO ONE IS MONITORING THE SAFETY AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND JUST BEING RELIABLE AND DOING WHAT THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO DO. I AM POOR YOU GUYS TODAY TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION, IT IS A VERY MINIMAL AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT WHEN I WAS HERE LAST TIME, MR. HERNANDEZ TALKED ABOUT THE SLIP AND FALL HE HAD OUT THERE BEFORE WITH CONTAINERS LEAKING. THAT BEING SAID, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO ME TODAY AND TAKING A LOOK AT ALL OF THE VIDEOS AND STUFF THAT I HAD SENT YOU GUYS, HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE FORWARD IN THE RIGHT [00:35:02] DIRECTION. WE CAN GET YOU GUYS TAKEN CARE OF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> IS THERE ANYONE THAT CAME IN LATER THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? IF YOU WOULD GO UP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS SUNNY TIRE FROM 2010 MAGNOLIA DRIVE, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SAY SOME WORDS. I WANT TO ECHO SOME WORDS I SPOKE PUBLICLY YESTERDAY. ON OCTOBER 12, IT KIND OF SEEMS LIKE A LIFETIME AGO, IT HAS BEEN THE MOST STRESSFUL, AND REMEMBER I'M AN E.R. DOCTOR, BUT SOME OF THE MOST HUMBLING WEEKS OF MY LIFE. SOMEONE ASKED ME ON THE 12, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO. I SAID, THAT IS EASY, WE ARE GOING TO FIGHT, BUT THEN THEY ASKED AGAIN, NO, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO. I HAD NOT REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. I STILL REALLY HAVE NOT TODAY AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF THESE GUYS REALLY HAVE COME A BECAUSE IT HAS NOT BEEN ABOUT US AS INDIVIDUALS, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT SERVING OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE BEEN ABSOLUTELY HUMBLED BY HOW HARD THE COMMUNITY HAS FOUGHT ALONGSIDE US, HOW HARD ALL OF YOU SEATED BEFORE ME HAVE FOUGHT FOR US. OUR VISION, OUR GOAL, AS IT WAS MEANT TO PROVIDE THIS VULNERABLE COMMUNITY WITH THE HIGHEST QUALITY, MOST UP-TO-DATE, AND MOST EVIDENCE-BASED CARE POSSIBLE. PATIENT COMES FIRST. EVERYBODY SAW THAT , THE COASTAL BEND SO THAT. TOGETHER WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE THAT MADE THAT DECISION ON OCTOBER 12 , JUST MAYBE, TO SEE IT TOO. WE WOULD ALL BE NAIVE TO THINK THAT THAT IS THE END. IT IS ONLY THE FIRST STEP IN A REALLY TREACHEROUS JOURNEY AHEAD OF US. THIS AFTERNOON, I HOPE TO SAY THAT, WELL, DAVID OVERCAME GOLIATH, THAT OUR SMALL GROUP OF E.R. DOCTORS WITH THE IMMEASURABLE HELP OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT ON THIS COMMUNITY, OVERCAME THAT GIANT OF A DECISION THAT WAS MADE ON OCTOBER 12TH TO CLOSE THE RESIDENCY. I WON'T BE ABLE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE OVERCOME IT IF IT IS ONLY TEMPORARY. HOW DO I EVER FEEL SAFE AGAIN WITH A DEADLINE ON MY LIVELIHOOD, MORE IMPORTANTLY, HOW COULD I EVER INSTILL FAITH IN MY PATIENTS IN MY COMMUNITY KNOWING THAT THERE'S A DEADLINE ON THEIR ACCESS TO QUALITY CARE. I'M NOT ONLY SPEAKING ABOUT EMERGENCY CARE, MY WIFE IS A LOCAL FAMILY DOCTOR, SHE IS FELLOWSHIP TRAINED IN GERIATRICS WHICH MEANS HER SPECIALTY IS OUR EXTREMELY VULNERABLE, ELDERLY POP ELATION. SHE IS THE ONLY PHYSICIAN IN HER CLINIC, IT IS DIFFICULT TO RECRUIT DOCTORS OF ALL SPECIALTIES. SHE MANAGES OVER 2000 PATIENTS BY HERSELF, SHE IS THE ONLY ACCESS TO CARE THAT THEY HAVE. IF YOU ASK HER WHY SHE PRACTICES IN CORPUS CHRISTI, WHEN THE ENTIRETY OF HER FAMILY AND FRIENDS ARE HUNDREDS OF MILES AWAY SHE WOULD SAY IT IS AS I PRACTICE HERE. YOU ASKED ME THE SAME, WHY I PRACTICE HERE WHEN MY FAMILY AND ALL OF MY FRIENDS ARE ALSO HUNDREDS OF MILES AWAY IT IS BECAUSE THIS RESIDENCY IS HERE. PUTTING A DEADLINE ON THE RESIDENCY PUTS A DEADLINE ON ME BEING HERE, WHICH PUTS A DEADLINE ON HER BEING HERE WHICH PUTS A DEADLINE ON ACCESS FOR OVER 2000 MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. THERE ARE OVER 50 MORE STORIES LIKE THAT IN THE RESIDENCY. WHAT IS TO SAY THIS WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN TOMORROW. A REAL BATTLE WILL BE TO ENSURE THAT IT IS NOT LOST, TO ENSURE THAT SOMETHING SO DEBILITATING TO THIS COMMUNITY CAN NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN. WE NOT ONLY OWE THIS TO OURSELVES, WE OWE IT TO THE COASTAL BEND, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. I THINK, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, YOU WANTED TO SPEAK? >> I CAN DO IT IN PUBLIC COMMENT, IS THERE A WAY TO BUMP UP THE ITEM SINCE IT IS AN AGENDA ITEM? I CAN MAKE IT AS A PUBLIC COMMENT. >> I WOULD BUMP UP THE ITEM. >> I CAN JUST MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. >> JUST MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT IF WE ARE GOING TO BRING IT BACK ANYWAY. >> WILL YOU SIGN YET? >> YEAH, I HAVE YOU ON HERE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT TOO. >> YOU CAN BRING UP THE ITEM TWICE, BRING IT UP AT THIS TIME AND THEN LATER AFTER THE MEETING. >> HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT. >> I WILL TELL YOU, PUBLIC COMMENT IS WHEN AN AGENDA ITEM IS BEFORE US. I THINK THAT US, AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, SHOULD BE TAKING TIME OUT OF PUBLIC COMMENT, THAT, IN MY OPINION, AVERTS THE OPEN MEETINGS REQUIREMENT THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE PUSH THE ITEM UP, I THINK WE ALL WANT TO WEIGH IN AND WE KNOW THAT THE DOCTORS HAVE TWO MEETINGS TO SPLIT TO AMONGST ALL OF THE ROUNDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THEY HAVE TO DO. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT MOVED UP. >> OKAY, I WILL MOVE IT UP. >> THEY HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED FOR TODAY , HE WILL BE ABLE TO REPORT AFTER THAT [00:40:02] MEETING WHAT HAPPENS AT THAT MEETING. >> YOU LET US KNOW LAST NIGHT. >> IF THERE IS NO ONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT, YES, PLEASE. >> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS DR. CARL SERENO, I'M ACTUALLY HERE TO REPRESENT NUECES COUNTY MEDICAL SOCIETY. I WANTED TO READ A BRIEF STATEMENT FROM THE SOCIETY. THE NUECES COUNTY MEDICAL SOCIETY IS IN SUPPORT OF THE RESIDENCY PROGRAM , THE SOCIETY RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF EMERGENCY MEDICINE RESIDENCY PROGRAMS AND THE TRAINING AND PRODUCTIVITY OF HIGHLY SKILLED PHYSICIANS, AND ALSO RECOGNIZES NUECES COUNTY COUNTY DISTRICT IN ITS VITAL ROLE THAT IT HAS PLAYED IN THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF THE COUNTY RESIDENTS IN INDIGENT CARE. ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT NCHD IS PARAMOUNT FOR SUSTAINING HIGH QUALITY MEDICAL CARE. THE NUECES COUNTY MEDICAL SOCIETY URGES THE COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE HOSPITAL RESTRICT TO TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS, ONE, ALLOCATE AND SIT HERE -- SECURE FUNDING FOR THE RESIDENCY PROGRAM TO ENSURE SUSTAINED OPERATION AND GROWTH SO THAT THEY MAY CONTINUE TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS , AND THE SURROUNDING RURAL AREAS. TWO, ENCOURAGE THE COLLABORATION TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES TO DEVELOP A LONG-TERM AGREEMENT NUMBER THREE, IF IT CANNOT BE REACHED , THAT THERE BE COLLABORATION WITH OTHER HEALTHCARE ENTITIES WILLING TO PROVIDE A LONG-TERM SOLUTION INCLUDING TRANSFERRING THE PROGRAM TO OTHER HOSPITAL SYSTEMS. THE ONGOING SUPPORT AND COLLABORATION WITH THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND THE COMMISSION TO ACHIEVE GOALS OUTLINED , WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR COOPERATION AND YOUR SUPPORT, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING. IF THERE ARE NO OTHERS WISHING TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT, I WILL GO AHEAD AND BRING UP 382, REGULAR AGENDA ITEM, RECEIVING AN UPDATE RELATING TO THE EMERGENCY MEDICINE RESIDENCY PROGRAM , WE BOTH TALKED TO HIM LAST NIGHT . THEY WERE WANTING TO DO THIS, POSSIBLY AT 3:30'S AFTERNOON, WE WERE GOING TO BRING IT UP LATE. I DO AGREE WITH THE FACT THAT HE NEEDS TO PRESENT TO HIS BOARD BEFORE HE COMES IN AND PRESENTS TO US , AND THEIR DISCUSSION FROM YOUR MEETING. HE IN NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, IS NOT WANTING TO BE HERE, HE JUST HAS PROTOCOLS TO FOLLOW AS WELL. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. >> THANK YOU JUDGE, LET ME START BY SAYING AND ECHOING SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT THE DOCTORS HAVE SO ELOQUENTLY MADE TODAY, THANK YOU TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD FOR JUMPING ON THIS, I AM SORRY, I'M COLD, I'M CHATTERING APPEAR. WE WOULD NOT BE IN THIS POSITION WERE IT NOT FOR THE HELP OF THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT, THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A GREAT PARTNER FOR NUECES COUNTY, THEY HAVE REALLY STEPPED UP. WE HAVE SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS AT THE RICK-- THE REQUEST, CREATING THIS COMMITTEE AND WORKING WITH THE DISTRICT. WE HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON THIS. WE REALLY FELT THAT THE TIME THAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT HAD COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WE HAD ALL ASKED FOR, GO BACK AND SEE IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO KEEP THIS. THAT WOULD BE THE EASIEST WAY TO START . WE ALL GOT TO A POINT WHERE WE FELT LIKE, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO SPEAK COLLECTIVELY, IF I'M NOT DOING IT RIGHT, SOMEONE WILL CORRECT ME, I GOT TO THE POINT WHERE I FELT LIKE WE WERE TRYING TO PUT A SQUARE PEG INTO A ROUND HOLE BECAUSE SPOHN DID NOT WANT THE PROGRAM, THAT IS NOT A CRITIQUE, IT IS JUST THAT THEY HAVE GONE A DIFFERENT DIRECTION IN A CORPORATE MANNER. I DO NOT WANT MY COMMENTS TO BE TAKEN NEGATIVELY ABOUT SPOHN AT ALL. THEY HAVE MADE A BUSINESS DECISION THAT THIS IS NOT WHAT IS BEST FOR THEIR BUSINESS. THEY HAVE MADE A BUSINESS DECISION THAT THIS IS WHAT IS BEST FOR THEIRS. THEREFORE, THE FEELING IN THE ROOM AND THE COMMITTEE, WE WOULD RATHER JUST GO . AGAIN, THEY DID NOT COME TO THOSE MEETINGS , THAT IS NOT A CRITIQUE, IT IS JUST A FACT. [00:45:02] AS I WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH THE DOCTORS ON THIS, THIS IS A HIGH RISK CHANGE AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME IN THE DEAL. I SAID LOOK, I MADE A LOT OF SAUSAGE IN MY PUBLIC SERVICE CAREER IN THIS IS SOME OF THE MOST INTERESTING SAUSAGE I'VE MADE. TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAD DISCUSSIONS , AND THEN, JOHNNY CAME BACK AND SAID, GUESS WHAT, THEY TOOK THE DEAL THAT WE PROPOSED, WHICH WAS SURPRISING TO EVERYBODY, THANKS TO SPOHN FOR DOING THAT, FOR COMING BACK TO THE TABLE AND RESPONDING AS SUCH. THAT SAID, I HAVE TO BELIEVE , AND SUPPORT, AS I HAVE DONE FROM THE BEGINNING, WHAT THE DOCTORS ARE RECOMMENDING. THEY BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THAT THEY KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY IN REGARDS TO THE PROGRAM AND THEM TAKING CARE OF THEIR PATIENTS. I'M NOT A DOCTOR, I'M NOT IN THIS, I HAVE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THIS, AND I APPRECIATE, I STILL DO NOT KNOW ALL THE ACRONYMS IN TERMINOLOGY, I HAVE DEFINITELY LISTENED AND LEARNED, IT HAS BEEN A FASCINATING EXPERIENCE, BUT AT THIS POINT, MY REQUEST WOULD BE TO CONSIDER TABLING THIS RECOMMENDATION, THIS IS AT THE DOCTORS REQUEST COME I WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR. AS I HAVE SAID TO THEM, THIS COULD BLOW UP THE WHOLE THING, THIS IS A HIGH RISK , HIGH REWARD ASK AT THE LAST MOMENT. I'M SAYING THIS TO YOU AS YOU ARE SITTING IN THIS ROOM NODDING YOUR HEAD IN AGREEMENT COME I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS IT, IT IS A BIG ASK, THIS CLOSE, WORKING ON CONTRACTS, WE ARE SAYING, ALL RIGHT, WE NEED TO SHIFT AGAIN. IT IS A BIG FINANCIAL REQUEST. HCA IS NOT MAKING THAT FINANCIAL REQUEST, THEY ARE THING WE WANT THIS, WE WILL TAKE THIS, WE WILL NEED SOME TRANSITION MONEY . I GET THAT THERE IS NOTHING ON THE TABLE, THAT IS THE HIGH RISK OF THIS, IF IT DOES NOT WORK OUT THE DEVILS ARE ALWAYS IN THE DETAILS, THIS COULD BLOW UP THE WHOLE THING. THE DOCTORS, I HAVE SAID THAT TO THEM, I HAVE ARGUED IT IS AND IT-- IT IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY OF SAYING IT, I HAVE REALLY PLAYED DEVILS ADVOCATE WITH THEM, MY BACK AND FORTH WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES, THEY STILL FEEL STRONGLY THAT IT IS REALLY BETTER TO TRY TO DO THIS NOW. IT REALLY PUTS THEM IN A BAD SPOT IF WE TAKE THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN . WITH THAT SAID, KNOWING ALL OF THE RISKS AND THE REWARD, ALL THE HOURS THAT WE HAVE SPENT ON THIS, AND WE PLANNED ON DOING THIS IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND LETTING THE WHOLE COURT KNOW WHERE WE WERE, BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY TALK BETWEEN OURSELVES, WE HAVE NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THIS WITH THE REST OF THE COURT YET, THAT IS WHY WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO DO IT TODAY. YOU KNOW, THE NDA, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THOSE DETAILS HAVE BEEN MADE PUBLIC. TO ME, THE HECK WITH THE NDA, LET'S GET THE DOCTORS TO THE TABLE AND GET THIS WORKED OUT. THOSE DETAILS ARE NOW PUBLIC, THEY HAVE BEEN RELEASED TO THE MEDIA, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THE DEAL IS, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS. THAT NDA HAS BEEN BREACHED, FORGIVEN, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, AT THIS POINT, IF WE COULD GET SPOHN AND HCA TO THE TABLE , I THINK IT COULD BE WORKED OUT. IF THEY DO NOT WANT IT, THERE IS NO SHAME IN IT, IT IS FINE, NOBODY IS GOING TO SHAME YOU FOR NOT KEEPING A PROGRAM THAT IF YOU HAVE MADE A CORPORATE DECISION TO GO IN AND ENTERED THE DIRECTION, LET IT GO, ALL WE ARE ASKING IS FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO TABLE IT, THE DOCTORS CAN GET TO THE TABLE, WORK THIS OUT, ASK THEM TO TRANSFER IT OVER, BECAUSE WHAT I LEARNED, APPARENTLY, JUDGE, IT IS A PRETTY EASY PROCESS IF THEY AGREE TO TRANSFER IT. LET'S NOT PUT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT IN THE POSITION OF SPENDING ALL OF THAT MONEY IF WE DON'T HAVE TO. OR SPENDING IT A DIFFERENT WAY. IT IS ALL GOING TO INDIGENT CARE, IT IS ALL A JUSTIFIED EXPENSE, I HAVE NO PROBLEM SUPPORTING THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT IN THAT EXPENSE BECAUSE I THINK THAT THEY ARE DOING IT FOR THE RIGHT REASONS AND DOING IT WITHIN THEIR MISSION, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DOCTORS ARE SAYING, ARE WE REALLY BUYING ENOUGH TIME TO KEEP THE PROGRAM ALIVE? >> BEFORE YOU TABLE. >> I WANT TO KEEP HOURS ON THE AGENDA. I WANT JOHNNY TO COME BACK AND TELL US, I'M ASKING THAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT CONSIDER TABLING THE PROPOSAL TO BRING EVERYBODY TO THE TABLE THAT NEEDS TO BE AT THE TABLE TO TRY TO SAVE THE PROGRAM FOR THE LONG-TERM, NOT FOR A SHORT-TERM FIX. I FEEL AS STRONGLY NOW AS I DID THEN IF WE DON'T KEEP THIS FOR THE LONG TERM, IF WE DON'T KEEP THESE DOCTORS IN THIS COMMUNITY WILL BE A DRAMATIC AFFECT ON THE COMMUNITY. IT WILL HURT THE AGING COMMUNITY THE MOST. [00:50:15] STATISTICS SHOW THAT THE INDIGENT GO TO EMERGENCY ROOMS MORE THAN ANY OF US. I APPRECIATE, AGAIN, I AGREE WITH WHAT THE DOCTORS SAID. I APPRECIATE THE TIME THE COURT HAS SPENT. THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT HAS STEPPED UP , HCA HAS STEPPED UP , SPOHN HAS COME BACK TO THE TABLE, WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK, WE JUST MIGHT NEED TO PIVOT A LITTLE BIT. I WILL STOP COME I KNOW OTHERS WANT TO WEIGH IN, I WOULD HOPE THAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT WATCHES THIS AND WILL CONSIDER THIS APPROACH. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE. WHEN WE TALK NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE ENTERED INTO, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE HOSPITAL RESTRICT HAS ENTERED INTO WITH THE SPOHN SYSTEM, I AGREE WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HAS SPENT, THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE SPENT, REPRESENTED BY MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, TO DOCTORS , MEMBERS OF THE NUECES COUNTY HEALTH DISTRICT, AND THE COMMUNITY APPOINTED WHO HAS BEEN AMAZING. WHAT KAREN HAS DONE IN HELPING US CONNECT ON THE ISSUE. I AGREE, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ON MONDAY, THIS IS OUR FIRST CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO SAY THIS PUBLICLY, I WAS SURPRISED THAT THE MONTH -- MEDIA WAS NOT WANTING A SOUNDBITE. I AGREE, ONE THING I SAID, WELL, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO PUSH IT TO SURVIVE ANOTHER DAY, THAT MEANS SOMETHING. WE ALL FELT THAT THIS WAS NOT THE BEST PLAN. WE KNEW THAT THIS ONLY REALLY GAVE US, BASICALLY A YEAR. WITHOUT STILL CAPPING OURSELVES AT THE END. THIS IS NOT TO PUT ONE HOSPITAL SYSTEM OVER THE OTHER , IT IS JUST PRIORITIES, THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. WE NEED TO PROTECT THESE 52 POSITIONS AND THOSE FAMILIES, THOSE HOUSEHOLDS, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY LIVING HERE AND PROTECT THEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. EVEN THOUGH THE HOSPITAL DISTRICTS VISION AND SCOPE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE LIMITED BECAUSE THAT IS WITH THE INDIGENT PART OF IT, WE, COLLECTIVELY, SEE IT AS A BIGGER ISSUE, THIS IS A COUNTY WIDE, COASTAL ISSUE. THIS IS NOT EVEN CORPUS CHRISTI, THIS IS THE ENTIRE COASTAL BEND. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A BIG SYSTEM HERE IN OUR AREA THAT IS IMPACTED BY SOME OF THESE DECISIONS. I WOULD ASK FOR THE HOSPITAL BOARD AS WELL , AND WE WILL CHIME IN, HOPEFULLY WE GET SOME TIME LATER ON TO BE ABLE TO BREAK AWAY FROM THIS COURT MEETING IF WE ARE NOT DONE IN TIME AND TO GO SHARE THOSE COMMENTS. HOPEFULLY THIS GETS TO OUR BOARD MEMBERS WHEN THEY MAKE THE DECISION LATER ON TO TABLE , LET'S REGROUP AGAIN AND TO PUSH FORWARD TO SEE WHAT SOLUTION WE CAN COME WITH. I AGREE, IF THERE IS A HOSPITAL SYSTEM THAT SAYS WE WILL TAKE THIS ON, LET'S MOVE FORWARD. THE TIME, THE ENERGY, THE EFFORT, THE WORRIES OF A STABLE PROGRAM TO , THE FIRST MEETING WHEN YOU CAME HERE, I WAS THINKING WE HAD WEEKS, MONTHS, YEARS, BUT IT WAS REALLY HOURS, DAYS, AND WEEKS. WE ARE STILL DEALING WITH THAT. WHO BETTER TO TELL THAT TO THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH THOSE TIME FRAMES THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT, WE GET THIS ACCOMPLISHED WE KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE STILL FACING RECRUITING. IN THE END WE HOPE TO HAVE A GREAT CEREMONY WITH WHOEVER THIS IS, TO KIND OF ANNOUNCE TO THE WORLD THAT WE ARE STABLE, THAT WE ARE A SECURE PROGRAM , AND THAT WE HAVE INVESTED, WE AS A COMMUNITY, NOT JUST THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND EVERYONE ELSE, HAS COMMITTED TO LONG-TERM MEDICAL CARE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THOUGH, THAT THAT GOES , BLAST OUT TO THE WORLD SO THAT ALL OF THOSE DOCTORS WHEN THEY ARE LOOKING AND WEIGHING, WHERE DO I GO, THAT WE ARE STILL AN OPTION FOR THEM, I KNOW IT IS SO IMPORTANT FOR YOU. THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE SAID TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT WE HAVE MET. THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR ME. I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO TABLE THE ITEM, TO LET US REGROUP, ONCE AGAIN, AND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN HONEST CONVERSATION AND THEY , IF THIS IS STILL FIVE YEARS [00:55:03] DOWN THE LINE WE HAVE PUNTED THIS BALL DOWN ONLY A YEAR. WE ARE STILL GOING TO BE IN THE , WE WILL STILL BE WITH THE ISSUE. WE EVEN TALKED ABOUT THAT SEVERAL TIMES OVER DURING OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS. ONCE AGAIN IF THAT IS WHAT WE CAN GET FOR NOW, WE WILL TAKE IT, BUT WE AGREE, FOR THE STABILITY OF YOU, REALLY TO KEEP YOU, YOU MIGHT WANT TO SAY, WHY WOULD I WANT TO STAY HERE, AS AN INSTRUCTOR. BE ABLE TO STAY HERE IN A PROGRAM THAT MIGHT NOT SURVIVE. IT IS ABOUT KEEPING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE , NOT ONLY RECRUITING, IT IS ALL COMBINED TOGETHER. I FEEL THAT, YES, WE SHOULD SEND A STRONG STATEMENT RIGHT NOW TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT THAT THEY SHOULD DELAY THIS, TABLE THE VOTE, ALLOW US TO REGROUP, COME BACK BY THE END OF THE WEEK, PERHAPS BY FRIDAY AT THE LATEST AND AGAIN, MEET, GET WHERE EVERYONE STANDS. I THINK WE KNOW WHERE ALL OF THE PARTIES STAND ON THIS AND GIVE THEM AN OUT. IF THEY DO NOT WANT IT, IF WE ARE STILL GOING TO FIND THIS PROBLEM WITHIN A YEAR OR LESS, THEN RELEASE US, COLLECTIVELY, RELEASE YOU, RELEASE THE PROGRAM SO THAT SOMEONE ELSE CAN GO TAKE IT OVER AND WE CAN CONTINUE A STABLE, SUCCESSFUL, WELL-KNOWN PROGRAM FOR RESIDENCY. THAT IS MY ASK, THANK YOU, JUDGE. >> ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS? THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AGAIN, I KNOW THAT YOUR TIME IS VALUABLE AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. WE WILL BRING THIS BACKUP, HOPEFULLY IF WE ARE HERE AT 3:30, IF THEY GET OUT OF THEIR MEETING AND CAN MAKE IT OVER WE WOULD LOVE TO BRING IT UP. >> DO YOU THINK WE NEED TO MAKE A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION TO THEM, SINCE THE AGENDA ITEM IS UP AXIOM JUST TRYING TO THINK HOW TO DO THIS. WE MAKE A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION TO ASK THEM TO CONSIDER THIS APPROACH, NOT US TABLING IT? JUST TO MAKE AN OFFICIAL MOTION IN CASE WE CANNOT GET OVER TO THEIR MEETING TODAY. >> YOU CAN MAKE THAT, I CAN CONVEY WHEN HE IS AVAILABLE, WHAT WAS SAID HERE TODAY ALSO. WHAT YOU THINK. I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD TO CONSIDER TABLING THEIR ITEM TODAY TO INCLUDE A NEW CONVERSATION WITH THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT , SPOHN, HCA AND REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE DOCTORS TO SEE IF WE COULD COME UP WITH A BETTER LONG-TERM SOLUTION TO KEEP THE PROGRAM IN NUECES COUNTY. >> SECOND. >> WHAT TIME IS THEIR MEETING? A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. MOTION PASSES. WE WILL LET MR. HIPP KNOW THAT. THANK YOU AGAIN. >> NOW, LET'S PRAY THAT IT WORK. >> MOVING, I WILL LET YOU ALL THERE THE ROOM A LITTLE BIT. I KNOW YOU HAVE LACES TO GO. JUST, FOR THOSE IN ATTENDANCE, IF YOU HAVE AN ITEM FURTHER DOWN THE AGENDA , WE WILL BE BREAKING TODAY AT ABOUT 11:15 FOR A RECESS, THERE ARE SEVERAL OF US THAT ARE GOING TO ATTEND THE STATE OF THE PORT LUNCHEON , THEN WE WILL BE BACK AS SOON AS THAT IS OVER AT 1:15 , IF WE DO NOT GET TO YOU BEFORE THEN, [1. Nueces County Airport Advisory Board] JUST AN FYI. ITEM H1, THE NUECES COUNTY ADVISORY, AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD . PRECINCT 3 HAD ONE LETTER OF INTENT FROM THE INCUMBENT AND THAT IS ROBERT GONZALES. AND WE HAVE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? DO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I WOULD NEED A MOTION TO REOPEN FOR APPLICATIONS FOR PRECINCT 1, TWO, AND FOUR. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO REOPEN FOR APPLICATIONS, BECAUSE THERE WERE NONE RECEIVED. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. PRECINCT 1, TWO, AND FOUR. THE MOTION PASSES. >> H2 FOR THE COUNTY EMERGENCY [2. Nueces County Emergency Service District No. 6] [01:00:14] SERVICES DISTRICT 6. IT IS A PARTIAL TERM THAT WILL EXPIRE DECEMBER 31ST 2024. ONE APPLICATION WAS RECEIVED FROM MARILYN MOORE BE THERE IS ONLY ONE VACANCY AND THAT WAS THE ONLY APPLICATION THAT WAS RECEIVED. >> THERE WAS A YES NEXT TO MY APPOINTEE , I DON'T KNOW THAT SHE WAS A YES. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU DID, I HAD TO GO TO THE BATHROOM, I APOLOGIZE. >> WE WILL OPEN THOSE BACKUP, BRING THEM BACK FOR PRECINCT 1. >> OKAY. >> IF I COULD BE A YES ON THAT TO BRING IT BACK I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, THANK YOU, SORRY. >> THE NUECES COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT, THERE IS ONE VACANCY AND ONE APPLICANT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT AND A SECOND FOR MARILYN MOBY, THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE [2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.] >> AYE, ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA , DOES ANY COMMISSIONER HAVE ANY ITEM THEY WISH TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? I WILL GIVE YOU A SECOND TO LOOK THROUGH THOSE. >> YES, I'M SORRY. I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION. I WAS GOING TO PULL THAT TOO ANY OTHER ? IS THERE AN UPDATE, I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN A STANDING ITEM. >> THAT IS WHY I PULLED IT. I THINK WE ARE GOING TO MOVE IT INTO THE REGULAR AGENDA. WE ARE CONTINUING TO PASS THIS WITHOUT AN UPDATE. IT SHOULD NOT BE ON THE CONSENT WHEN WE DO NOT PULL IT OUT. >> I WOULD ACCEPT A MOTION TO PASS THE CONSENT AGENDA EXCLUDING ITEM ABUSE -- ITEM W AND WHY. I WILL SECOND THE MOTION, ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR [W. Ratify job title from the 9/27/23 Commissioners Court meeting from Animal Service Director to Animal Service Manager.] SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. DID YOU PULL THAT? >> JUST A QUESTION. TRYING TO GET TO IT . ON THE ANIMAL SERVICES A DIRECTOR, WHEN WE VOTED ON THE ML KNOW -- ANIMAL SERVICES DIRECTOR. WE INTERVIEWED HER FOR MR. RAMIREZ'S JOB . WHEN WE VOTED ON IT, WE CALLED HER A DIRECTOR. THE JOB TITLE IS MANAGER NOT DIRECTOR. EVERYTHING ELSE STAYS THE SAME, THE PAY SCALE IS THE SAME, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT DIRECTOR INSTEAD OF MANAGER. >> THE PAY SCALE ON THE BACKUP SEEMS TO GO UP. IT SAYS THAT SHE WAS HIRED AT A PAY GROUP, 2101. I DON'T KNOW. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. >> I THINK IT IS GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL WHEN WE VOTED ON IT. IT JUST CHANGE FROM THE TEMPORARY POSITION TO THE FULL-TIME POSITION. >> VERITY DID THAT IN THE LAST MEETING. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING, IS THAT WHAT IT WAS? IT WAS CORRECT. >> THE PAY SCALE ON THERE. >> WE HAVE ALREADY INCREASED HER TO THE 2701. THIS IS JUST TITLE EVEN THOUGH IT TALKS ABOUT IT UNDER HERE. OKAY, THAT IS ALL I HAD. >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. I [Y. Receive updates, if any, regarding the Bob Hall Pier project and all related matters. ] [01:05:04] THINK WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT WHY A THERE ARE NO UPDATES. WE WON'T HAVE A MOTION TO PASS , WE WILL, IN THE FUTURE, MOVE THAT TO THE REGULAR AGENDA. WE HAVE BEEN PASSING THIS IS IF WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING AN UP AND WE HAVE NOT. >> JUST TABLING IT. IS THERE MOTION FOR THAT? WE ARE NOT PASSING ANYTHING. >> A MOTION TO TABLE. BRENT HAD A MOTION, I WILL MAKE A SECOND, ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. >> I THINK THE JUDGE HAS A GOOD POINT . YOU CAN DO IT THERE. IT IS AN UPDATE, IF ANY. THERE IS NO ACTION NEEDED. >> I JUST PUT IT ON THE WAY JENNY TOLD ME TO. IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE, WHATEVER. >> THE REGULAR AGENDA. SOMETIMES ON THE CONSENT. MOVING PAST IT. READ EVERYTHING THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO READ. SOMETHING TO BRING UP WITH IT. >> I GUESS. I JUST DID IT THE WAY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TOLD ME TO. >> MY ONLY THOUGHT PROCESS, WE ARE PASSING AN UPDATE THAT WE DID NOT GET. [1. Receieve presentation from Barisi Village on a proposed Tax Increment Refinance Zone (TIRZ). ] >> I DID IT THE WAY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TOLD ME TO COME IF YOU WANT ME TO DO IT DIFFERENT AND THAT IS WHAT THE COURT WANTS I'M HAPPY TO ACCOMMODATE. >> IT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE, WE ARE GOOD. THREE A1, RECEIVED PRESENTATION ON PROPOSED TAX INCREMENT REFINANCE . >> HI. HEATHER OR BERT. , ASSISTING MANAGER WITH THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. WHAT I'M PRESENTING IS WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL. MADE BY THE DEVELOPER FOR SUPPORT OF THE BARISI VILLAGE PROJECT. GETTING MY NOTES OUT HERE, REALLY FAST. SO, TO QUALIFY, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS NOT MADE A DECISION YET, WE DID MEET IN EXECUTIVE SESSION YESTERDAY AND CAME OUT WITH SOME DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL, WE WILL BE SITTING -- CIRCLING BACK AROUND. THIS IS NOT A RECOGNITION FROM THE CITY, BUT IT IS THE PRESENTATION OF WHAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY THE DEVELOPER. YOU WILL SEE, LIKE I SAID, THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE FORMER FERRO VALLEY GOLF COURSE. IT IS 127 ACRES , AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS RIGHT THERE NEAR THE CAMPUSES, IT IS THE FORMER AREA THAT WAS KNOWN AS THE PHARAOH VALLEY GOLF COURSE. THIS IS A MASTER PLAN OF THE COMMUNITY. THE DEVELOPMENT IS BEING PROPOSED TO BE DONE IN PHASES, MOVING FROM THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE MAP TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE MAP , IT WILL BE THERE ON THE RIGHT CENTRAL AREA WITH CANALS, LAKES, AND WATER FEATURES MOVING INTO WHERE THE GOLF COURSE IS, IT WILL BE SOME FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ON THE GOLF COURSE AREA THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS A VILLAGE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, IT INCLUDES CLASSES, WEDDING CHAPEL EVENT SPACE. THERE IS A PROPOSED 1350 MULTIFAMILY UNITS A HOTEL WITH UP TO 120 KEYS , AND THEN UP TO 200,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL [01:10:01] SPACE. THERE IS THE PUBLIC PAR THREE GOLF COURSE , THE ESTIMATED BUILDOUT IS 10 TO 12 YEARS. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THE ESTIMATED TAXABLE VALUE IS BETWEEN 800 AND $1 BILLION AT COMPLETION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THERE YOU GO. MOVING INTO PHASE TWO AS YOU MOVE ACROSS TO THE LEFT, THEN CIRCLING BACK AROUND, PHASE THREE, PHASE FOUR, AND THEN PHASE FIVE. THESE NUMBERS ON THE MAP TO REPRESENT THE INVESTMENT WILL GO INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. NEXT SLIDE. SO, WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS A VARIETY OF PROJECTS. WHEN YOU COME -- CREATE THIS, IT PUTS FORWARD WITH THE PARAMETERS ARE FOR WHAT THE MONEY COULD BE USED FOR, WITH THE DEVELOPERS REQUESTING , REIMBURSEMENT FOR CANALS , STRUCTURED PARKING , THAT WOULD BE, STRUCTURED PARKING WOULD BE ONLY THE PORTION OF SPACES THAT WOULD BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC WHICH IS ABOUT AN ESTIMATED 400 SPACES. LANDSCAPING, SIGNAGE AND LIGHTING, TRAFFIC AND STREET IMPROVEMENTS , PARKS AND FOUNTAINS, PUBLIC RESTROOMS, THE VILLAGE STYLE PUBLIC PLAZA AND TOWER, NATURE PRESERVE, GOLF AND WALKING TRAILS, PUBLIC SEWER , STORMWATER AND WATER INFRASTRUCTURE ALONG WITH INTEREST EXPENSE ON CAPITAL PROJECTS, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THESE ARE THE PROPOSED DOLLAR AMOUNTS , ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT , THE TOTAL OF THE PROJECT, THE INFRASTRUCTURE FACILITIES AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE TOTALS ABOUT $59 MILLION IS WHAT THE ESTIMATED COST IS. THE DEVELOPER HAS ASKED FOR AN $11 MILLION INFLATION ALLOWANCE ALONG WITH ABOUT $10.5 MILLION ALLOWANCE FOR FINANCING COSTS AND INTEREST. AN ADMINISTRATIVE CLASS OF $20 MILLION OVER THE 20 YEAR PERIOD, THIS ONE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ADMINISTRATIVEL Y HEAVY. GOING THROUGH WHEN WE GO THROUGH REIMBURSEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT IS A TOTAL OF 82, ALMOST $83 MILLION WORTH OF REIMBURSEMENT IS WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED BY THE DEVELOPER. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. GOING THROUGH THE PHASES, THIS WOULD BE PHASE ONE, GOING BACK TO LOOKING AT THE MAP THAT WENT FROM THE RIGHT TO THE LEFT, THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST PHASE, IT DOES INCLUDE A WEDDING CHAPEL ALONG WITH THE HOTEL AND SOME DIFFERENT SPACES THERE, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO, WITHIN PHASE ONE THERE IS A REQUEST OF UP TO ABOUT 15.6, $15.7 MILLION IN COST , WHAT WOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHIN THE FIRST PHASE WOULD BE 345 MULTIFAMILY UNITS , 120 KEY ROOM HOTEL , RESTAURANT ABOUT 6000 SQUARE FEET, RETAIL SPACE OF ABOUT 15,000 SQUARE FEET, THOSE WILL BE TWO SEPARATE RETAIL SPACES, A PARKING GARAGE WITH 400 SPACES, OF THAT ABOUT 100 WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC PARKING . A CAFE OF ABOUT 1000 SQUARE FEET, A CHAPEL OF ABOUT 6000 SQUARE FEET, THE PLAZA AREA, ABOUT 5000 SQUARE FEET, A 5000 SQUARE FEET BELLTOWER ALONG WITH TWO LAKES AND ABOUT 5000 SQUARE FEET OF BANQUET SPACE. THESE ARE APPROXIMATE AND, THE PLAN MIGHT CHANGE A LITTLE BIT AS A DEVELOPER GOES ALONG BUT THIS IS WHAT IS IN THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT PLAN. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. MOVING INTO PHASE TWO, THIS WOULD HAVE MORE OF THE PARK AMENITIES. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. LOOKING AT THIS, THERE IS ABOUT $18.5 MILLION IN REQUESTED REIMBURSEMENTS OR COST THE CITY'S -- ASSOCIATED. 345 MULTIFAMILY UNITS, 12 SPORTS COURTS WOULD BE DEVELOPED, 450 SPACES IN A PARKING GARAGE, OF THAT ABOUT 100 WOULD BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, 12,000 SQUARE FOOT CLUBHOUSE , ONE LAZY RIVER POOL, THE PAR THREE GOLF COURSE, 40 TOWNHOMES, A PUBLIC PARK, THE PUBLIC WALKING PATH, ABOUT SIX OF THOSE, FOUR LAKES, AND THEN A 20,000 SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. MOVING INTO PHASE THREE, THIS IS WRAPPING BACK AROUND TO THE, I GUESS THE WEST AND DOWN TOWARDS THE SOUTH. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WITH THESE, THIS PHASE WOULD BE ABOUT $5.5 MILLION IN COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THERE WOULD BE THE ADDITION OF RE-HUNDRED FIFTH THE AGE RESTRICTED LIVING UNITS , 32 SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS, 400 SPACES [01:15:01] FOR SURFACE PARKING , 8000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMUNITY ROOMS, TWO COMMUNITY GARDENS AND THEN TO WATERSIDE BOARDWALK STRUCTURES. NEXT SLIDE, PHASE FOUR , NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. A LITTLE BIT OVER $10 MILLION IN ESTIMATED COSTS FOR REIMBURSEMENT FROM THIS PHASE , WITHIN THIS PHASE THERE IS THE ADDITION OF 330 MULTIFAMILY UNITS , 32 SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS, 450 SPACES IN THE PARKING GARAGE, LIKE I SAID, AND HUNDRED OF THAT WOULD BE FOR PUBLIC PARKING, 85 TOWNHOMES , TO COMMUNITY GARDENS, TO WATERSIDE BOARDWALK STRUCTURES, A SMALL GROCERY STORE OF ABOUT 5000 SQUARE FEET, 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE, TWO COMMUNITY PARKS, ONE LAKE AND TO PUBLIC WALKING PATHS. FINALLY, IN PHASE FIVE, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 9.1, ALMOST $9.2 MILLION IN REIMBURSABLE COST , WHAT WOULD BE BUILT WITHIN THIS PHASE WOULD BE 330 MULTIFAMILY UNITS, 20,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL SPACE, 450 PARKING SPACES IN THE PARKING GARAGE OF WHICH ABOUT 100 WOULD BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, 85 TOWNHOMES, ONE COMMUNITY PARK , TO COMMUNITY BOARDWALK STRUCTURES, APPLAUSE OF ABOUT 5000 SQUARE FEET AND THEN EXECUTIVE OFFICES OF ABOUT 500 SQUARE FEET . WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED BY THE DEVELOPER FOR THE DISTRICT -- DIFFERENT ENTITIES, THESE ARE THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS, THE FIRST COLUMN THERE THAT TOTALS 81 MILLION. ASSUMING THE SAME TAX RATES, THE AREA WOULD PRODUCE ABOUT $81 MILLION FROM THE THREE TAXING ENTITIES. $44 MILLION COMING FROM THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, IN THE NEXT COLUMN OVER, A REQUESTED CONTRIBUTION, WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED IS 95 PERCENT OF THE INCREMENT OF THE TAXES PRODUCED BY THE INCREMENT FOR THE FIRST 10 YEARS, STEPPING DOWN TO 75% OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WITH 50% AT THE LAST, THREE YEARS, AND THEN FINISHING OUT AT 25% FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. 8% OF THE TAXES PRODUCED BY THE INCREMENT OVER THE 20 YEAR PERIOD. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. LOOKING AT THE ESTIMATED CAPTURED VALUES , OF THE THREE COLUMNS, SO, LOOKING AT, AT 100% TAX REVENUE BASED OFF OF THE BUILDOUT SCHEDULE ALONG WITH THE ASSUMED TAXABLE VALUES, CREATED BY THE DEVELOPMENT, OVER THE 20 YEAR PERIOD IS ABOUT $29.4 MILLION, WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED TO BE CONTRIBUTED IS ABOUT 19 OR $20 MILLION OF THAT, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR ABOUT 9.5 MILLION TO GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND FOR GENERAL OPERATIONS WITHIN THE COUNTY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO, THAT DOES CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION. I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS AND I BELIEVE THE DEVELOPERS ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT PART. >> DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING FLEXIBLE TODAY, WE HAD YOU IN THE MEWING -- MORNING, WE HAD YOU IN THE AFTERNOON, WE APPRECIATE THAT, IN DOING ALL OF THAT, IT WAS BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE. I APPRECIATE YOU ACCOMMODATING, THE E.R. ISSUE IS A PRETTY PRESSING ISSUE FOR US. DID THE DIRECTION THAT YOU GOT FROM THE COUNCIL, WAS THAT PUBLIC DIRECTION OR WAS IT PRIVATE DIRECTION? >> THERE WERE SEVERAL POINTS OF SUBJECTS THAT NEED TO BE NEGOTIATED WITH THE DEVELOPER FROM THEIR ORIGINAL PROPOSALS. >> AT THIS POINT YOU ARE NOT ABLE OR WILLING TO TELL US WHAT THOSE POINTS ARE BECAUSE IT IS PRIVATE DISCUSSION, RIGHT? >> YES >> THAT'S FAIR. >> SOME OF THE ASPECTS THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR REIMBURSEMENT. THERE ARE COUPLE OF THAT THE COUNCIL IS NOT WANTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AS FAR AS REIMBURSEMENT, I NEED TO DISCUSS THAT WITH THE DEVELOPER. >> THAT'S A GENERAL, THAT HAPPENS A LOT. THAT IS WHY NEGOTIATIONS OCCUR. OVERALL, WHAT IS YOUR IMPRESSION OF THE PROPOSAL, FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, FOR THE CITY, AND OBVIOUSLY, THE JUDGE AND I MET THREE MONTHS AGO, I CANNOT EVEN REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS, TIME FLIES. WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH [01:20:04] THIS. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE HAVE SEEN IT AGAIN IN A WHILE. THIS, ALSO, SOME OF THIS FALLS, I THINK A PIECE OF THIS FALLS IN HIS PRECINCT, I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT. WE COULD NOT HAVE THREE IN A MEETING , WHAT IS YOUR OVERALL IMPRESSION OF THE FINANCIAL ASK ? >> FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE THIS IS A LARGER ASK THEN WE HAVE HAD , THE CONTRIBUTION AMOUNTS ARE MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE CONTRIBUTED BEFORE, SOME OF THE PROJECTS ARE NOT IN LINE WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE REIMBURSED FOR, THAT WAS KIND OF THE POINT OF THE CONVERSATION YESTERDAY WITH CITY COUNCIL, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE GOING BACK AND WE WILL BE TALKING WITH THE DEVELOPER ABOUT SOME OF IT. IT IS AN AREA THAT DOES NEED TO BE REDEVELOPED, IT IS A GREAT REDEVELOPMENT PROCESS. WE WERE JUST GOING TO WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE ASKS, LIKE YOU SAID, IT IS A NEGOTIATION PROCESS. >> DID I HEAR THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE NOT . >> IT WILL BE CITY BUT IT IS A DEVELOPER REQUEST. THE BOARD STRUCTURES A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THIS IS THE DEVELOPER COMING FORWARD WITH AN ASK. THIS WAS A DEVELOPER INITIATED ONE , A LOT OF TIMES WITH THAT, IT IS FOR ONE PROJECT NOT MULTIPLE PROJECTS. WE HAD MULTIPLE DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON. THE DEVELOPERS ARE ASKED FOR. THEY ARE ONLY FOCUSED ON ONE AREA AND THEN WE NORMALLY JUST HAVE ONE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT . >> THE BOARD MAKEUP WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE LIKE IT IS NOW WITH >> YEAH IT IS A DIFFERENT BOARD COMPOSITION, PRIMARILY OF THE , NOT BY TAXING ENTITY, IT IS MORE BY OWNERSHIP OF LAND , AND THEN THEY CAN APPOINT OTHER , IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT COMPOSITION, MORE BY OWNERSHIP. DOES IT WORK WHEN YOU GET THE REIMBURSEMENT, THE BOARD APPROVES THE REIMBURSEMENT? >> SO, CITY COUNCIL IS STILL IN CONTROL OF THE FUNDING , AND STILL IN CONTROL OF THE TAX INCREMENT ZONE WILL , THEN THE COUNTY, ANY OTHER TAXING ENTITY PARTICIPATES THROUGH AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT OF AN AMOUNT EQUAL TO WHAT THOSE TAXES ARE THAT ARE PRODUCED , THE ZONE WILL STILL BE CONTROLLED BY THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL MAKES UP A LOT OF OF THE BOARDS , PRIMARILY, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF MEMBERS FROM CITY COUNCIL , A LOT OF THOSE DECISIONS THEN DO NOT HAVE TO NECESSARILY GO BACK TO COUNSEL FOR DEVELOPER AGREEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU ALREADY HAVE THE COUNCIL SITTING ON THOSE BOARDS, IT WOULD BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT. IT WOULD BE HOW THE TYPE A OR TYPE B BOARDS WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT COUNSEL, THEY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BUT IT STILL HAS TO GO TO COUNSEL FOR APPROVAL. THAT IS HOW IT WOULD WORK. >> THIS IS PHENOMENAL, I'M HAPPY TO SEE THIS COMING TO FRUITION. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR ABOUT A DECADE . I DID NOT HAVE GRAY HAIR WHEN JEFF STARTED WORKING ON THIS. I'M GLAD TO, BACK ON THE COUNCIL. IT IS EXCITING TO SEE IT. THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE ON THE FORMATION , HOW COULD WE BE , IT IS A BIG ASK WHEN THEY ARE IN THERE, IT IS OUR MONEY GOING IN BUT WE DO NOT REALLY HAVE THE FINAL A. HOW COULD IT BE STRUCTURED? IT'S NOT, WE ARE PUTTING IN A LOT IF WE CHOOSE TO DO THIS. IF IT IS A COUNSEL A DEVELOPER TO THE CITY, THE CITY IS THE FINAL SAY AND WE ARE KIND OF LEFT OUTCOME EVEN WHEN WE ARE PUTTING IN ALL OF THIS MONEY. WHAT KIND OF STRUCTURE IS AVAILABLE ON THESE KIND OF THINGS TO WHERE WE HAVE SOME FINAL DAY, NOT JUST BOARD RECOMMENDATION. >> I'M NOT A LAWYER, I WILL PUT THAT ALL AFIRE OUT THERE. WE WOULD HAVE TO TALK WITH LEGAL COUNSEL, THERE MIGHT BE WAYS THROUGH THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. THE COUNTY DOES PARTICIPATE THROUGH THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT , THERE MIGHT BE WAYS THAT WE COULD PUT QUALIFIERS WITHIN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE WOULD ONLY BE WILLING TO REIMBURSE FOR THESE TYPE OF THINGS, OR BE, CONSIDERED FOR THESE. YOU COULD CAP YOUR PARTICIPATION THROUGH THAT. THAT IS WHAT I COULD THINK OF RIGHT NOW BUT LIKE I SAID, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE MUCH MORE VERSED IN LAW THAT MIGHT HAVE OTHER SIDE DISTANCE ON HOW THAT MIGHT GO. >> WE DON'T MAKE DECISIONS TODAY BECAUSE IT IS JUST A PRESENTATION SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN DIGEST AND GO BACK AND DO THEIR STUFF, THAT IS SOMETHING [01:25:02] THAT I'M GOING TO POINT TO JENNY ON. I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN ANY OF THESE THAT COME FORWARD , I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE MORE SAY. WE ARE PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY IN THIS THING. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS, LEGALLY, WHAT THE VEHICLE IS, IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO SOME OF THAT, AND IT MIGHT NOT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COURT IS GOING TO DO ON THIS, BUT IN ANY OF THESE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO COME UP, I THINK THAT WE , I'M NOT SURE IF WE PARTICIPATED NOT ONE OR NOT. THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THE FINAL SAY IN THAT ONE EITHER. IT KIND OF JUST POPPED INTO MY MIND AS I'M SITTING HERE, YOU KNOW, IT IS GREAT TO BE ON THE BOARD THAT I'M ON BUT I DO NOT HAVE THE FINAL SAY, THE COUNTY IS PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY IN. I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE PARTICIPATION IN THE FINAL SAY. IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T TRUST MY FRIENDS AT THE COUNCIL BUT IT IS THE COUNTY BUNNY SO WE OUGHT TO BE IN ON IT. I WOULD LOVE TO PURSUE THAT. THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR HEATHER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ACCOMMODATING TODAY. THANK YOU JUDGE, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >> IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU. SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS BEFORE COURT STARTED. ACTUALLY, EVERYTHING WEST OF NILE IS IN MY PRECINCT. BASIC LEE, THE OTHER ASPECTS OF IT, I HAVE BEEN A PERSONAL FAN ABOUT THIS. THERE HAVE BEEN CONSTITUENTS ON THE DIVIDING LINE , THERE ARE MIXED FEELINGS INITIALLY. HOPEFULLY IT IS WORK THROUGH OVER THESE YEARS , THIS PROJECT HAS KIND OF BEEN PRESENTED PUBLICLY, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF HAVING A GOLF COURSE COME I THINK THAT IS GREAT. THAT IS WHAT THE INITIAL CREATION OF THAT WAS. IT WAS A GREAT DRAW, TO BE ABLE TO SEE A REDESIGN INCORPORATING A SMALLER SCOPE, I THINK THAT IS WHAT MOST GOLF COURSES ARE TRYING TO DO, AND EXECUTIVE COURSE, IT COMPLEMENTS A GREAT PART OF THE LIVING CENTER THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ESTABLISH HERE. I AGREE WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY WAS SAYING AS FAR AS, IF WE COULD FIND A WAY THAT WE COULD BE REPRESENTATIVE, HAVE THE REPRESENTATION THERE. I THINK THAT THAT IS IMPORTANT. I'M GOOD WITH, IN GENERAL, WHAT THE CONCEPT IS, LIKE I SAID, I JUST KNOW IN THE PAST THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME PUSHBACK. ALL THE RESIDENTS IN THE COUNTY , ESPECIALLY THOSE, I'M SURE, WILL BE THE ONE THAT I WILL HEAR FROM. I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN MAINLY FOCUSED ON CITY COUNCIL. WITH THIS PRESENTATION I'M SURE THAT IT WILL. KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TWO PARTNERS WHO ARE ALMOST EQUALLY REPRESENTED. THIS WILL BE IN PRECINCT 4. THE OTHER SIGNIFICANT PART IS THERE IN MY PRECINCT. I WAS THINKING, HOW MANY YEARS AGO WAS IT THAT YOU SET THE CORNERSTONE RIGHT OVER HERE? IT IS EXCITING. EVERY TIME WE DRIVE BY, SEEING THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE OUT THERE. ALL THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE COMMITTED TO THE COMMUNITY. NOT JUST PIE-IN-THE-SKY IDEAS OR DEVELOPER THAT IS ONLY PROVIDING PROMISES BUT NOT DELIVERING , YOU HAVE SHOWN THAT ALREADY. THAT IS WHAT GIVES ME, I THINK A SENSE OF HOPE IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS. IF THE FINANCES CAN WORK OUT, THIS WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT ADDITION TO REALLY FIXING UP A ONCE VIBRANT AREA , A LOT OF FAMILY AND FRIENDS IN THAT AREA. WE VISIT THAT PART OF TOWN QUITE OFTEN. I KNOW THAT THIS WILL BE A BIG SURGE OF ATTENTION AND FOCUS ON MORE PEOPLE WANTING TO MOVE, DEVELOP, REBUILD THE SUBDIVISION SURROUNDING THE AREA, IT IS GOING TO CAPITALIZE, NOT ONLY FOR YOUR PROPERTY, YOUR INVESTMENT , BUT ALL OF THE AREAS AROUND, SEEING MY ALL HIM -- ALMA MATER ON THERE, THAT IS A BIG ART OF THE GROWTH , EVERY TIME I DRIVE DOWN, I LOVE TO SEE WHAT THEY'VE DONE WITH THE ROAD ITSELF. ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT, ALTHOUGH SMALL BUSINESSES, WHEN I WAS GOING TO SCHOOL IT WAS JUST, AND EMPTY BORING DRIVE TO GET TO THE UNIVERSITY, NOW IT IS REALLY PICKING UP. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER PART OF CONNECTING THE AREA, REVITALIZING THE AREA THAT WE ONCE HAD. I'M WANTING TO HEAR AND LEARN MORE ABOUT IT. GIVE ME A CALL, YOU HAVE MY INFORMATION, LET ME KNOW. I LIKE THE INITIAL PUSH. I KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE SOME TALK AND SOME DISCUSSIONS. OVERALL [01:30:02] AND VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS CONCEPT, THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WISHING TO SPEAK? >> THE ONE THING, NOT DOING THESE BEFORE, BEING NEW TO THESE, THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON A PRESENTATION LIKE THIS IS THE DEVELOPERS INVESTMENT, NOT JUST THE MONEY THAT THEY ARE ASKING, I THINK PEOPLE DO NOT SEE THAT IT IS A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT BEING MADE INTO OUR COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT THAT HELPS US IN THE PROJECT, AND THE COMMUNITY TOO. THANKS. >> OKAY, I THINK WE ARE GOOD. THANK YOU. >> I DID NOT KNOW IF THE DEVELOPER WANTED TO SPEAK OR NOT. >> YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. >> HE SAID NOT REALLY. >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO. >> JEFF PLACARD, >> THERE. YEAH. UNLESS THE REST OF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO SEE IT. IT SEEMS LIKE A BEEN HERE FOR 10 YEARS. IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS. WE UNDERSTAND WHAT HEATHER WANTS, SHE IS A BLESSING TO THE CITY. SHE HAS WENT THROUGH THIS, IT IS VERY COMPLICATED AS YOU KNOW, BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, WE ARE PREDICTING WHAT WE ARE BUILDING, WHAT WE ARE SPENDING, COSTS FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS, APPROXIMATELY $1 BILLION , I UNDERSTAND THE CONTROL THING, WE WILL FIGURE THAT OUT WITH HER, I AGREE WITH THAT. WE ARTY KIND OF KNOW WHAT THE CITY IS COMING BACK WITH ON THEIR COMMENTS. WE AGREE WITH THIS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMITMENT TO [3. Discuss and consider accepting $50,000 supplement/stipend from the Hospital District for the Nueces County Attorney’s Fiscal Year 2024 budget, and distribute funds pursuant to letter, 2023-2024 Allocation of Hospital District Supplement to County Attorney Office.] THIS PROCESS. LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THIS DONE. IT IS A GREAT CONCEPT. >> OKAY, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING A $50,000 SUPPLEMENTAL STIPEND FROM THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT, I THINK THEY DO THIS. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT THIS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I HAVE ONE QUESTION, I KNOW THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS CHANGING THE LEVEL OF PAY, BUT I THINK THEY TOOK THAT BACK, DOING IT JUST AS A SUPPLEMENT AS WELL. >> CHANGING THE PAY SCALE, WASN'T THAT IN ONE OF OUR EMAILS ABOUT THAT? >> THIS ONE IS ONLY COVERING, IT IS NOT A CHANGE IN PAY SCALE. >> THE ONE HAD EARLIER THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. MAC THAT IS NOT ADDRESSED ON THIS. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. WE HAVE A [4. Discuss and consider allocating $20,000 to Texas A&M University Corpus Christi, Antonio E. Garcia Arts & Education Center from Special Revenue Funds, Capital Credits Administration, Department #1379 for the purpose of economic development; and related matters.] MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE . ANY OPPOSE? SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ALLOCATING 20,000 TO TEXAS A&M UNIVERSITY CORPUS CHRISTI , ANTONIO GARCIA, ARTS AND EDUCATION CENTER , CAPITAL CREDIT ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT 1379, I THINK THAT THAT IS THE SAME MONEY WE USED FOR OTHER CONTRIBUTIONS LAST TIME. WE STILL HAD A BALANCE SOMEWHERE. AT THE ARTS IN EDUCATION CENTER? I DID NOT KNOW THAT. >> I DID NOT KNOW THEY DID ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EITHER. >> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, IT IS VERY COLD IN HERE. >> THANK YOU, I KNEW IT WASN'T JUST ME. I FEEL THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS , IT TIES INTO THE STANDARD OF LIVING TO THE ACADEMIC LEVEL . THE JUSTIFICATION FOR RECEIVING FUNDS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOP MEANT . IT IS BASED ON A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH , I HAVE BROKEN THIS DOWN TO INCLUDE EDUCATION ENDED NO LEARNING, [01:35:04] THE CENTER IS ACT LEE INVOLVED IN ADULT LEARNING , INVESTING IN EDUCATION CONTRIBUTES TO A MORE SKILLED AND CAPABLE WORKFORCE. THE FUNDING WOULD SUPPORT THE EXPANSION AND IMPROVEMENT OF ADULT EDUCATION. WE ALSO HAVE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMMING THERE FOR ELEMENTARY AGED STUDENTS THAT ADDRESSES GATT, THIS CONTRIBUTES TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF WELL-EDUCATED AND CAPABLE FUTURE WORKFORCE. FUNDING CAN ENHANCE AND EXPAND THE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS AND ENSURE A GREATER IMPACT ON STUDENTS SUCCESS IN ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT, MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS. THERE IS A STRONG EMPHASIS ON MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES AND AWARENESS, RECOGNIZING THE CRUCIAL ROLE THAT MENTAL WELL-BEING PLAYS AN OVERALL DEVELOP IT. THIS WOULD SUPPORT MENTAL HEALTH ADDITION IS INITIATIVES PROVIDING RESOURCES TO CONTRIBUTE TO A HEALTHIER AND MORE RESILIENT COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS. THIS IS A BIG PART OF THE CENTER, THE CENTER COLLABORATES WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS DEMONSTRATING A COLLECTIVE EFFORT TO ADDRESS EDUCATIONAL AND SOCIETAL CHALLENGES. THIS WOULD STRENGTHEN AND EXPAND THOSE PARTNERSHIPS CREATING A MORE INTERCONNECTED AND SUPPORTED COMMUNITY . CURRENTLY WE HAVE SEVERAL EVENTS THAT WE PLAN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WHERE, OVER 30 TO 40 VENDORS ARE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE, THIS WAY THEY COULD DEMONSTRATE THE RESOURCES THEY CAN BRING TO THE COMMUNITY. WE USUALLY HAVE A HOUSE FULL OF VENDORS AT THAT TIME , CULTURAL ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS, THEY ORGANIZE THESE EVENTS CELEBRATING LIFE AND CULTURE ATTRACTING NUMEROUS VENDORS, LIKE WE SAID, THESE CONTRIBUTE TO COMMUNITY COHESION AND COUSINS WOULD ALSO SUPPORT THE ORGANIZATION OF THESE EVENTS AND PROVIDING VALUABLE RESOURCES, WE ALSO HAVE A SOCIAL ENTREPRENEURSHIP PROGRAM AT THE CENTER. WE ARE DEVELOPING PROGRAMS FOR MIDDLE SCHOOLERS AND THEIR PARENTS. THIS FOSTERS CREATIVITY AND PROBLEM-SOLVING SKILLS , THIS PREPARES THE NEXT GENERATION WITH THE SKILLS NEEDED FOR ECONOMIC INNOVATION AND DEVELOPMENT , FUNDING WOULD ALSO ENABLE US TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM AND IMPROVE THE PROGRAM, REACHING MORE STUDENTS IN MAKING A GREATER IMPACT ON THE ENTREPRENEURIAL SKILLS , WE ARE ALSO DEVELOPING A PROGRAM THAT IS GOING TO OFFER STEM EDUCATION FOR ADULT, THIS DEMONSTRATES A COMMITMENT , FUNDS WOULD SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF ADULT PROGRAMS CONTRIBUTE TO THE ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT OF FAMILIES. ONE REASON WE DO THIS IS BECAUSE SEVERAL TIMES WE ARE BRINGING THIS TO THE CHILDREN. WE ARE TRYING TO BRING THIS TO PARENTS SO THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE SCHOOLS , WHAT THEIR CHILDREN ARE BEING TAUGHT SO THEY CAN EMPOWER THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES AT HOME. WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON, THE IPAD APPLICATIONS TRAINING, WE ARE OFFERING TRAINING FOR PARENTS, ENCOURAGING LEARNING AT HOME, CREATING A SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT FOR CHILDREN'S EDUCATION, FUNDING WOULD BE UTILIZED FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF TRAINING PROGRAMS, INSURANCE -- ENSURING PARENTS HAVE THE NECESSARY TOOLS TO SUPPORT THE CHILDREN'S EDUCATION. SUPPORT FOR THESE. FUNDS WOULD BE USED TO SUPPORT ONGOING TRAINING PROGRAMS, EDUCATIONAL INITIATIVES, AND MENTORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, CREATING COMPREHENSIVE SUPPORT SYSTEMS FOR INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES IN THE COMMUNITY. IN SUMMARY, THE ARTS AND EDUCATION CENTER REQUEST FOR FUNDING IS GROUNDED IN A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPED EDUCATION AND WELL-BEING, THE ALLOCATION OF FUNDS TO THESE AREAS WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMUNITY BY FOSTERING EDUCATION, SKILLS DEVELOPMENT, AND OVERALL COMMUNITY RESILIENCE. >> I THINK, ON THIS ONE, THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION, BUT I DID LOOK ON THIS , ONE OF THE CATEGORIES IS FOR , I THINK THEY QUALIFY UNDER THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUT I THINK THAT THEY QUALIFY UNDER THIS ONE. >> I THINK THE MOTION IS TO PASS. >> THAT IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THE QUALITATIVE PATIENTS FOR THIS. >> THAT IS A NO-BRAINER FOR ME. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS GOT AWAY FROM ME. IF I MAY, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO >> YOU CAN ADD, IF THAT IS ON [01:40:02] THIS. TERESA, DO I HAVE MY SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS? >> YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO PASS. ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSE? SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES , COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ, NOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ? >> I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE ANOTHER $20,000 ON THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUND. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE COMMUNITY APPRECIATES IT. >> THIS IS ALL SEPARATE SPECIAL REVENUE. >> THIS WOULD COME FROM THE CAPITAL CREDITS. I COULD DO IT SEPARATE. >> I WILL LET HIM SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSE? THE MOTION PASSES, THANK YOU, I HAVE BEEN OVER THERE, IT IS A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. >> THINK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. YOU ALL HAVE COME A LONG WAY. DOING A GARDEN WITH THE KIDS. >> DID HE KILL THE GARDEN, IS IT STILL ALIVE AFTER HE LEFT ? IS HE MAKE WE ARE THRIVING. YOU WALK IN THERE AND IT TRULY LOOKS LIKE A COMMUNITIES ARTS CENTER, THE COMMUNITY IS ACTUALLY EMPOWERING WHAT CHANGES AND WHAT IS GETTING DONE AT THE CENTER. I'M VERY HAPPY TO ACCEPT THIS FUNDING, I'M VERY HAPPY THAT YOU ALL ENCOURAGING US AND SUPPORTING US TO BETTER THE WESTSIDE COMMUNITY. >> I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL DO WITH THE YOUNG PEOPLE, AND THE PARENTS, GETTING THEM ALL INVOLVED. IT JUST TELLS US THAT THE COMMUNITY IS GOING THE RIGHT DIRECTION IN THAT AREA. SOME OF THESE KIDS NEED ALL OF THIS GUIDANCE AND NEED TO HAVE PARENTS INVOLVED. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. >> GREAT PRESENTATION. >> ITEM NUMBER FIVE, DISCUSS [5. Discuss and consider approval and execution of License Agreement between Nueces County and the Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) regarding the Nueces County Tax Assessor/Collector's appointment limited -service deputies for motor vehicle registration services, and related matters.] AND CONSIDER APPROVAL AND EXECUTION OF A LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY AND THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION REGARDING THE TAX ASSESSORS LIMITED DUTIES, DEPUTIES FOR MOTOR VEHICLE REGISTRATION, THIS IS AT THEIR REQUEST, THEY ARE DOING THIS ALL OVER THE STATE IT WILL HELP CLEAR OUT PEOPLE FROM OUR LOBBY AND THE COUNTY MAKES ZERO DOLLARS ON THESE TRANSACTIONS , THEY WILL BE TAKING CARE OF THEIR OWN NOW. THEY WILL BE DOING THEM. THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF THEIR FLEETS OF VEHICLES. I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS THIS. HE COULD NOT BE HERE. HE WAS OUT OF TOWN AT A TRAINING. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO PASS OR APPROVE THIS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSE, SAME SIGN. [6. Discuss and consider approval of an Amendment to Dune Protection Permit DPP-202303-01 for a large-scale single family home located at Lot 1-A Admirals Row, Corpus Christi, TX.] THE MOTION PASSES, THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER SIX, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT. [7. Discuss and consider approval of Dune Protection Permit for City of Corpus Christi Packery Channel Dredging and Beach Nourishment Project, Corpus Christi, TX DPP-10182023.] >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSE? SAME SIGN. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, ANOTHER PROTECTION PERMIT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSE, SAME SIGN, [8. Receive update by Grant Works, Inc. on Nueces County CDBG MIT MOD application including discussion of consideration to act on withdrawal of CDBG Method of Distribution Allocation Application previously submitted to General Land Office and prepare a new application to re-submit and all related matters.] THE MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, RECEIVE AN UPDATE ON THE APPLICATIONS. >> HI, GOOD MORNING. I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE. JUST A BRIEF UP DATE ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, KIND [01:45:01] OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THINGS, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH VARIOUS ENGINEERS FOR THE VARIOUS PROJECTS, PROVIDED IS A LIST OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED WITH THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION IN FEBRUARY , THERE ARE GOING TO BE QUITE A FEW CHANGES TO SOME OF THOSE SCOPES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED , THAT IS ALSO GOING TO AFFECT SOME OF THE ALLOCATIONS , THE DISTRIBUTION OF FUNDS ON THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS WITHIN EACH PRECINCT, IT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE ALLOCATIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH, IT IS JUST HOW THEY HAVE MOVED AND ARRANGED THE FUNDS FOR SOME OF THEIR PROJECTS. WHAT WE ARE LIKING TO DO IS SET UP MEETINGS WITH EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND YOUR ENGINEERS SO WE CAN SIT DOWN ONE-ON-ONE AND REVIEW THE MAPS AND BUDGETS OF WHERE WE ARE, HOW THEY AFFECT THE TOTAL OVERALL MASTER BUDGET FOR THE PROGRAM AND MAKE SOME DECISIONS BASED ON THOSE CONVERSATIONS. AS A RESULT OF HAVING TO, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW BEFORE I MOVE FORWARD? I HAD HEARD THAT THERE MIGHT BE AN ISSUE ON THAT PROJECT . >> WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM THEM , WE GAVE THEM A DEADLINE TO SEE , I HAVE NOT MET WITH THEM AGAIN. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE FIRST OF NOVEMBER, WE NEED TO SET UP ANOTHER MEETING WITH THEM. THEY WERE WAITING ON ANOTHER GRANT REQUEST THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO DO THE PROJECT, OTHERWISE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE FUNDING TO MOVE FORWARD. >> IN THAT, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT WITHDRAWING THESE AND RESUBMITTING, IS THAT NOT, I KNOW WAS IN ON SEVERAL CALLS. >> THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS IS ALSO HIGHLIGHTING A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE MADE TO THE COURT AND TO THE COUNTY. THAT IS, AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE GOTTEN FAR ENOUGH , HOW THEY ARE GOING TO NEED TO CHANGE IT IS BEST TO WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION THAT WAS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED SO THAT WE CAN RESUBMIT THE PROJECTS , IT IS REALLY A LOGISTICAL THING AT THIS POINT. THE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW THE APPLICATION AS IT WAS SUBMITTED BECAUSE WE ARE NO LONGER TALKING ABOUT THE SAME PROJECTS IN THE SAME SCOPE ANYMORE. THEY HAVE CHANGED. IT WILL NEED TO BE RESUBMITTED. THAT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION , IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE TIMELINE IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND THE PROGRESS WE HAVE MADE. WE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AND PUSH FORWARD TO BRING THIS TOGETHER. WHAT IT WILL DO IS ELIMINATE THE RFI, THE LOOMING RFI DEADLINES THAT WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH. THEY WILL GIVE US A NEW SUBMISSION DEADLINE AND THEY WILL WORK WITH US AT SELECTING A DATE, THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD, THEY WILL WORK WITH US TO SELECT A DATE THAT IS REASONABLE CONSIDERING MULTIPLE FACTORS AS WELL AS UPCOMING HOLIDAYS, WHICH WE KNOW, TEND TO SLOW THINGS DOWN. THAT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNTY AT THIS POINT, IT DOES NOT AFFECT HER ALLOCATION TO THE COUNTY. >> THE AMOUNT DOES NOT CHANGE, THE ALLOCATION WOULD NOT CHANGE. THAT WAS MY RECOMMENDATION AFTER THE PHONE CALLS THAT WE WERE ON AS WELL. IT WOULD BE , MY RECOMMENDATION TODAY, WE HAVE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION , I WOULD ACCEPT ANOTHER MOTION TO RESUBMIT. >> TELL ME WHAT THAT DOES, IT DOES NOT PUT OUR FUNDS IN JEOPARDY? AS YOU SAID, SO PEOPLE WATCHING, IT IS A BIG DEAL, A BIG AMOUNT OF MONEY, $31 MILLION, IT DOES NOT PUT THOSE FUNDS OF JEOPARDY , IT IS JUST A LOGISTICAL MATTER THAT WE HAVE TWO RESUBMIT BECAUSE THE PROJECTS HAVE CHANGED IN SCOPE, CHANGED IN DESIGN. THEY CANNOT APPROVE THOSE WITHOUT A NEW APPLICATION. >> THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF HATERS THAT WILL SAY, OH, WE'VE MESSED UP, WERE TO LOSE THIS MONEY. >> YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE YOUR ORIGINAL ALLOCATION OF 31.2 MILLION. IT DOES NOT CHANGE ANY OF THAT, IT IS JUST LOGISTICAL IN NATURE BECAUSE THE SCOPES HAVE CHANGED. >> WHEN WE DO THE REAPPLICATION , I KNOW SOME OF OUR PROJECTS HAVE , HAD SOME THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE TWEAKED. [01:50:14] >> MINE WILL PROBABLY CHANGE AS WELL. WE WILL KNOW. >> I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT. >> THAT WAS A PROJECT THAT ALL OF THE COURT WAS SUPPORTIVE OF. WE FELT LIKE IT WAS A SUPER IMPORTANT PROJECT. IT WAS DEBATE OVER THAT TOO. I HEARD BECAUSE IT WAS NOT POTENTIALLY GOING TO COMPLETE A PROJECT, IT MIGHT NOT BE FUNDING THAT COULD BE USED FOR THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS RIGHT. NOBODY WANTS TO PULL THE MONEY AWAY. THERE ARE SOME LOGISTICAL PROBLEMS, POTENTIALLY. >> WE HAD A MEETING WITH THEM, WE WERE WAITING UNTIL THEY HEARD FROM THEIR REQUEST THAT THEY HAD. >> NO PROBLEMS, NO ISSUES. MONEY IS STILL INTACT, 100% GOING FORWARD, HALLELUJAH, AMEN. >> THEY WILL HELP PRODUCE, IF IT IS APPROVED TODAY BY THE COURT AND AGREED TO, WHAT THEY WILL DO IS HELP YOU DRAFT A TEMPLATE LETTER RESPONSE TO GENERAL LAND OFFICE SO THAT YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO WITHDRAWAL OUR APPLICATION. AND RESUBMIT. WE HAVE TO DO THAT AS A SEPARATE MOTION? OKAY, A MOTION AND A SECOND TO WITHDRAW AND RESUBMIT OUR APPLICATIONS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSE, SAME SIGN. [2. Receive update from Nueces County Hospital District relating to the Emergency Medicine Residency Program operated by CHRISTUS Spohn Health System Corporation; and related matters.] >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR TIME AND EFFORT. I KNOW YOU WILL BE MEETING WITH US AGAIN TO DO THIS. >> IN QUEUE SO MUCH. >> I'M GOING TO SKIP AHEAD TO THREE C2 SO THAT SCOTT CROSS CAN GET IN HERE FOR HIS OTHER ITEM, I'M SORRY I DID NOT SEE THAT EARLIER, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ENGINEERING SERVICES UNDER PURCHASING FOR SCOTT CROSS. THIS IS OUT OF YOUR RESTORE ACT FUNDING. >> IT IS GRANT FUNDED. WE HAVE HEARD HE GONE THROUGH THE SCORING PROCESS, MYSELF, A BOARD MEMBER. ONE WITH PUBLIC WORKS, UNANIMOUS ON WHO WE SELECTED. WE ONLY GOT TWO RESPONDENTS. THIS ONE WAS FAR MORE QUALIFIED , THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTING THAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO. THIS WILL BE A GOOD ONE. >> MOTION TO PASS. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND THE SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSE? SAME SIGN. THANK YOU. >> YOU WANT TO MOVE MY OTHER ONE UP? >> YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE? >> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO PASS >> GO MESA. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO PASS >> WHO WAS SELECT DID? ANDREWS AND NEWMAN. >> SORRY, IT IS IN OUR PACKET. SECOND TO PASS ITEM E FOR THE RECLASSIFICATION OF NATURAL RESOURCES MANAGER POSITION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> THE RECLASSIFICATION OF NATURAL RESOURCES MANAGER POSITION. IT IS FUNDED IN DEPARTMENT 1307. >> IT WAS FUNDED FROM THAT FUND BEFORE. NO PHYSICAL IMPACT TO MY BUDGET OR THE COUNTY'S BUDGET. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED ? THE MOTION PASSES. >> THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME PRESS MY LUCK. >> WE HAVE ABOUT 10 MINUTES. ITEM 3 A NINE. IS THAT WHEN GOING TO BE A WILD? IT WILL PROBABLY BE A WHILE. OH, YOU HAVE A POWERPOINT. OKAY. THEN [10. Receive presentation from Grant Works, Inc. on grant management services for Disaster Recovery (ARPA, COVID, & FEMA PA) and consider approval of Master Services Agreement and Work Authorization to handle County Precinct and County-Wide Projects; and related matters.] I WOULD , GRANT WORKS. LET'S DO NUMBER 10. [01:55:04] >> WE WILL TABLE THAT ONE. >> WE ARE GOING TO TABLE NUMBER 10. >> WE WILL BRING THAT BACK. >> I WILL SECOND THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING. WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. NOVEMBER 29TH, YES. LET ME SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUICK THINGS. >> WE CAN DO NUMBER 11, YES. [11. Discuss and consider selection of appointee to Place 5 on the Board of Directors of the Nueces County Appraisal District; approve execution of resolution for selection of member for Place 5 on the Board of Directors of the Nueces County Appraisal District.] DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE SELECTION OF A POINTY TO PLACE FIVE ON THE COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT. WE HAD TWO APPLICANTS, A LETTER OF INTENT TO THE COUNTY APPRAISAL BOARD. REAPPOINT GABRIELLE. SHE HAS BEEN OUR APPOINTEE FOR A LONG TIME AND DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO REAPPOINT GABRIELLE. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> THE OTHER APPLICANT WAS OUTSTANDING TOO BUT OUR CURRENT APPLICANT HAS DONE WELL. >> SHE HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON TOP OF THINGS. >> I HAVE NEVER MET HER, I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING. >> I THINK, AT THIS POINT, WE ARE PROBABLY , INSTEAD OF HOPPING AROUND WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND RECESS. WE WILL BE BACK. [12. Discuss and consider allocating $150,537 additional ARPA Pct 4 Funds to Parker Pool Project. ] >> 12 IS EASY. THEN, WE WERE GOING TO AMEND SOMETHING. >> OKAY. ITEM 12, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ALLOCATING 150,537 ADDITIONAL ARPA FUNDS. >> WE JUST HAD TO MOVE IT AROUND BECAUSE, WE HAD TO SPLIT OUT , WE HAD TO USE ARPA FUNDS. IT IS JUST AN ADMINISTRATIVE DEAL, A LOT OF MY FUNDING. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSE, SAME SIGN. YOU HAD SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED TO ADJUST? >> YES, ON THE HOSPITAL ITEM EARLIER. THE REST OF THE COURT MIGHT BE INTERESTED. WHEN WE MET WITH THE COMMITTEE. WE HAD MENTIONED POSSIBLY USING ARPA FUNDING , A PORTION OF OUR ARPA FUNDING TO HELP IN THE ASSISTANCE OF TRANSFERRING OVER OR ASSISTING THE RESIDENCY PROGRAM. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE INCLUDED IN THAT MOTION SO WE ARE ABLE TO HELP CONTRIBUTE TO THAT. IT'S AN ONGOING ISSUE, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE RESOLVED OVERNIGHT BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE COMMITTED TO. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT INTO A MOTION OR TO AMEND IT SO WE ARE INCLUDED IN THAT FOR FUTURE DISCUSSIONS. I DON'T HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT. >> I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE NEGOTIATIONS ARE GOING TO GO. I WOULD SECOND THAT. >> I DON'T THINK THAT YOU CAN USE THESE FUNDS FOR SALARIES. REQUIREMENTS. >> WE DID NOT KNOW THAT THIS WAS COMING UNTIL TODAY. >> I THINK HE WAS JUST SAYING, WE WANT TO STAY INVOLVED WITH THE GROUP THAT WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN CASE THEY NEED THOSE FUNDS, IN CASE THEY ARE GOOD TO GO. >> YEAH, IT IS NOT TO SAY THAT THERE IS ANYTHING ALLOCATED. THERE WERE OPTIONS THERE. WE MIGHT ALL WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT. PUTTING THEM ON NOTICE. [02:00:11] WE DON'T KNOW YET. >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION. DID YOU MAKE IT? JUST THAT WE MIGHT POSSIBLY USE. >> AT US TO THAT PROCESS, THAT IS IT. AT US TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION. THAT WAS IT. ADDING TO THAT GROUP. ADDING US TO THE GROUP. TO ADD YOU TO THE NEGOTIATING GROUP. WE WERE BUT WE DID NOT MAKE IT AS PART OF A MOTION. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ADDING THEM TO THE GROUP THAT IS NEGOTIATING WITH THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO CONTINUE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. >> WHAT IS THE GOAL AND WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? >> INCLUDING THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT, THE DOCTORS AND THEN IT GOT LEFT OUT TO INCLUDE THE COUNTY WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS SINCE THE BEGINNING. THIS IS NOW EVOLVING INTO NOT JUST SOMETHING BETWEEN THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND SPOHN IT INCLUDES HCA WHICH WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED BECAUSE SPOHN DOES NOT HAVE A CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP. THEY SAID IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE INVOLVED AND WE NEED TO BE INVOLVED. THIS IS WHAT WE WERE TOLD. IT WAS JUST CLARIFYING A MOTION. I THINK TO BE INVOLVED , WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WILL CONTINUE NEGOTIATIONS, OUT THERE WHEELING AND DEALING. >> THEY ARE STILL NOT COMMITTING ANYTHING. >> I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL EVEN COME TO THE TABLE. I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD. IT IS A GOOD EFFORT THAT WE ARE ALL JUST TRYING TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY. WE, AS THE COUNTY MIGHT HAVE TO PARTICIPATE FINANCIALLY TO DO THAT. IF WE ARE NOT THERE YOU KNOW. INCLUDING YOU AS YOU HAVE BEEN IN ALL OF THE MEETINGS. >> WE HAVE A VOICE. >> EDWARD WANTS US TO TRY TO DO [13. Discuss and consider Un-allocating $2,500,000 from Pct. 2 ARPA Infrastructure/Clean Water - Stormwater Projects, ($500,000 each - Belk Lane, Petronila, Golden Acres, Tierra Grande and Petronila; Reallocate $1,500,000 to Petronila 1 & 2 Estates Drainage Improvements and $500,000 to Belk Lane Drainage Improvements.] ITEM NUMBER 13, THIS WILL BE THE FIRST -- THE LAST ONE THAT WE GET TO BEFORE WE BREAK. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. US IS COMMISSIONER GONZALES'S ALLOCATION ANYWAY. I GUESS YOU WILL SECOND YOUR MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. WE HAVE ONE MOTION TO ON ALLOCATE AND THEN ANOTHER MOTION TO REALLOCATE TO THE LIST. >> FINE WITH ME IF IT IS OKAY WITH YOU, JUDGE. YOU WANT JUST ONE. WE HAVE A MOTION TO ON A ALLOCATE AND REALLOCATE TO THOSE OTHER PROJECTS LISTED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSE? SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE WERE NOT DOING. >> THE SOLID WASTE COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL SERVICE. WE HAVE SOME OF THE PROPOSERS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ITEM , ONE IS PREPARED TO SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION. >> WHAT NUMBER IS THAT? >> ITEM C3. >> I THINK THIS WILL TAKE A WHILE, SORRY. I'M SORRY, THIS WILL TAKE SOME DISCUSSION, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE. >> SO, IT IS 11:10, WE ARE AT RECESS. >> THE ANIMAL SERVICES ORDER LOOKS PRETTY EASY. OKAY. HAS EVERYBODY HAD TIME TO LOOK AT [02:05:02] IT. WHICH ONE IS THAT? >> THE SIMPLE ANIMAL SERVICES CONTROL. YEAH. WE WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO ADJOURN UNTIL [16. Discuss and consider the ratification of the Animal Services Order and all related matters.] 11:30. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WILL TAKE LONG. IT LOOKED PRETTY CLEAN TO ME. >> OKAY. WHICH NUMBER IS THIS? I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE A QUICK MOTION TO PASS. >> A QUICK MOTION, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. >> ITEM 16, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPLICATION OF ANIMAL SERVICES ORDER AND ALL RELATED MATTERS. >> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE REDLINE DIVERSION SUBMITTED TO THE COURT AS A PASS. >> COMMISSION TO -- A MOTION TO ACCEPT AND PASS. >> I WILL SECOND YOUR BETTER MOTION. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. THE OTHER MOTION THAT I HAD A REQUEST, POSSIBLY IN THE ORDER, IT SAYS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL APPOINT THE CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE , THE ONE SUGGESTION I HAVE IS APPOINTING KENDALL AS THE CHAIR. IT IS A NONVOTING MEMBER, THAT GIVES HER MORE ACCESS AND INVOLVEMENT IN THAT SENSE IT IS HER DEPARTMENT. >> WHY SHOULD WE APPOINT THE CHAIR? >> IT IS A NONVOTING MEMBER. >> I DON'T KNOW. AN ADVISORY BOARD, THEY ONLY MEET THREE TIMES A YEAR. WE HAVE TO POINT THE CHAIR. >> WE COULD LEAVE THAT ONE OFF. GOOD. WE COULD VOTE THAT ONE SEPARATELY. I DID NOT MAKE IT, FOR THE RECORD BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD SUGGESTION. >> I THINK SHE HAS A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFICULTY. KENDALL HAD SUGGESTED HER POSSIBLY BEING A MEMBER OF THAT. I DID NOT LIKE HER BEING THE DIRECTOR MANAGER, IT MADE MORE SENSE TO ME. >> YOU ARE JUST ORGANIZING THE MEETING PLACE. >> YES. ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT HER AS CHAIR? >> I WILL MAKE THE MOTION, YES. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. KENDALL BRADLEY. A MOTION TO APPOINT HER AS A NONVOTING CHAIR OF THAT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'M FINE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THIS, BUT IT WAS JUST AFTER DISCUSSIONS WITH HER, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE HAS HAD . ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES, NOW, I HAVE TO GET OUT OF HERE BECAUSE I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO DO, IT IS 11:14, WE ARE RECESSING AND WE WILL BE BACK SOMETIME AROUND 1:30. BETWEEN >> 1:38, WE ARE GOOD TO COME [1. Discuss and consider the hire of the Interim Medical Examiner as the new regular full-time Medical Examiner for Nueces County.] BACK FROM RECESS. I'M GOING TO MOVE TO E1, HUMAN RESOURCES. THE INTERIM MEDICAL EXAMINER AS THE NEW FULL-TIME MEDICAL EXAMINER. NOVEMBER THE NINTH WAS HIS 90 DAY TRIAL , I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION. YES, WE ARE VERY HAPPY WITH THAT. >> I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION WE HAVE A MOTION, SECOND, AND A THIRD. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> QUICKLY, JUST WANTED TO SAY HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND WHAT A GREAT JOB YOU HAVE DONE. I'M SURE YOU WOULD'VE LIKED FOR US TO DO THIS QUICKER, WE FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO TRY THINGS OUT A LITTLE BIT, TRY THE CAR OUT FOR WE BOUGHT IT IF YOU WILL, YOU [02:10:01] TURNED OUT TO BE THE CADILLAC VERSION OF THIS. WE APPRECIATE IT, WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO DO THE GREAT JOB THAT YOU HAVE DONE . I JUST DID NOT WANT TO MAKE A QUICK MOTION AND NOT SAY SOMETHING, IT MEANT A LOT HOW YOU STEPPED UP, TOOK OVER AND HELPED OUT. YOU HAVE BEEN A TEAM PLAYER. THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP, WE APPRECIATE YOU WORKING WITH US. THANK YOU FOR YOUR APPROACH TO THINGS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PROFESSIONAL ABILITY. WE ARE THRILLED TO HAVE YOU EVER -- ON A PERMANENT BASIS. >> THE FEELING IS MUTUAL FROM ALL OF US APPEAR. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSE, SAME SIGN. THANK YOU AGAIN, I HAVE HAD AN AMAZING RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU. I'VE BEEN OVER TO THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE A COUPLE OF TIMES, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER AND MOVING FORWARD, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. YOU KNOW HOW IT IS AROUND HERE. >> I WANT TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY , MY MAIN GOAL , CHARACTER, COMMITMENT AND AND COMPETENCY. I WANT TO HAVE LONG-TERM STABILITY FOR THIS OFFICE AND MAKE THIS ONE OF THE BEST OFFICES IN TEXAS AND DO A QUALITY DEATH INVESTIGATION WITH THE SUPPORT OF STAFF, VERY HAPPY TO HAVE A GOOD STEP. CONTINUING FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTY. >> WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU. >> SO, GOING BACK TO OUR [9. Receive report from Lourdes Rivera, Grants Department, on all ARPA county project balances and remaining funds; and all other matters.] REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE I BELIEVE IS WHERE WE NEED TO GO BACK, RECEIVER REPORT FROM GORDIS RIVERA, GRANTS DEPARTMENT ON ALL OUR FOR COUNTY PROJECT REMAINING BALANCES. I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT THIS IS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON COUNTY JUDGE AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. I MADE A PRESENTATION FOR TODAY AND I WANTED TO BRIEFLY GO OVER , PROVIDE GENERAL USES, ELIGIBLE TYPES AND DEADLINES, SORRY. SO, PAGE 1. THIS EXPRESSES ALL OF THE ELIGIBLE CATEGORIES, ONE THROUGH SEVEN WITH A BRIEF DESCRIPTION. THIS IS WHAT HAS BEEN ALLOCATED TO DATE. ON AUGUST 23RD, AND INTERIM FINAL ROLE WITH ADDITIONAL AVAILABLE USES UNDER DISASTER DECLARATION AND EMERGENCY RELIEF TITLE I PROJECTS , WHICH INCLUDES HOUSING, URBAN DEVELOPMENT AND TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE. OF COURSE THEIR SPECIFIC USAGE. SLIDE NUMBER TWO. THESE ARE THE ELIGIBILITY TYPES, ONE THROUGH FOUR WHICH IDENTIFY A IS TITLES THAT NUECES COUNTY HAS REPORTED AN ALLOCATION AMOUNTS IN THE PORTAL. ANY QUESTIONS? PAGE 3. AS OF NOVEMBER, THIS ALLOWS EVERYONE TO VISUALLY SEE HOW THE ALLOCATIONS HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED . WE HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED TOWARDS PUBLIC HEALTH , NEGATIVE ECONOMIC IMPACTS. THAT IS 3.5. >> CAN YOU TELL US SOMETHING IN PUBLIC HEALTH, THAT NUMBER IS SO HIGH. >> THIS IS PUBLIC SECTOR POSITIONS, LAW ENFORCEMENT RETENTION . >> OH, LAW ENFORCEMENT, THAT SAYS IT ALL. IT IS IN BLUE. THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. IS THERE ANYWAY THAT WE CAN ADDRESS. HOW [02:15:01] MUCH IS GOING TO EACH ONE OF THEM, DO YOU HAVE IT SOMEWHERE IN ANOTHER PAGE? >> IT IS ON THE THIRD PRESENTATION THAT CONNIE HAS. THE AMOUNTS. >> YES. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? >> ON THE EXPENDITURES CATEGORY , THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE PAID OUT , IT IS KIND OF CONFUSING. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN , 5.606. REVENUE LOSS >> THAT WILL ENTAIL PUBLIC WORK EQUIPMENT, PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ALLOCATED, FOR INSTANCE, HAZEL BAZEMORE IS , SINCE IT WAS NOT PROCURED UNDER FEDERAL REGULATIONS IT HAD TO BE CATEGORIZED UNDER LOST REVENUE. THAT IS A REQUIREMENT IN ORDER FOR IT TO FIT INTO AN ELIGIBLE CATEGORY WHEN IT GOES OUT FOR BIDS IT HAS TO HAVE ALL THE FEDERAL CONDITIONS. ALSO, THE TWO PROJECTS WERE NOT , I BELIEVE, THE INTENTION WAS TO USE 1377. WE ARE GOING TO SEE THOSE NEXT? RIGHT? >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN HERE, ON THE BLUE, THE GRAY, WHATEVER. THEN WE CAN PROBABLY KNOW WHERE WE ARE AT, RIGHT? >> YES, THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW ABOUT HOW THE MONEY HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED. SO, ON THE NEXT SLIDE , THIS PAGE WILL DEMONSTRATE WHERE ALL THE PAPERWORK IS THAT FOR THE STATUSES , AND HOW WE AWARDED IT TO EITHER SUB RECIPIENTS OR BENEFICIARIES , RIGHT NOW ON SOME OF THESE WE ARE DOING REIMBURSEMENT COSTS , SOME WERE AWARDED UPFRONT, BUT WE ARE COLLECTING DOCUMENTATION UNTIL THE END OF THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT. ANY QUESTIONS? SOME OF THE RECIPIENTS ARE STILL COLLECTING DOCUMENTATION? >> OH, RECIPIENTS IS NUECES COUNTY. >> WE ARE STILL COLLECTING PAPERWORK AND DOCUMENTATION. >> THE JOB IS NOT FINISHED? >> I WANT TO DESCRIBE IT AS EITHER GOING THROUGH A BID, OR WE WERE DOING LEGAL REVIEW, GETTING INVOICES. >> THE JOB IS STILL PENDING. THAT MAKES SENSE, YES. >> YEAH, SOME OF THEM. FOR INSTANCE, JAIL, COVID LET'S SEE. THE ONES THAT ARE BEING COMPLETED, WE HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION. OKAY. SO, NEXT PAGE, NEXT SLIDE. HERE ARE THE KEY DATES AS FAR AS THE OBLIGATION DATES ARE CONCERNED IF WE MOVE ANY MONIES, ANY PROJECTS ON THE LAST, -- COURT DATE UNLESS THERE IS SOMETHING [02:20:11] TOMORROW, A WEBINAR THAT I NEED TO ATTEND TO, THE DATE IS STILL SET WE ARE STILL SAYING THAT WE CAN ALLOCATE NEXT YEAR OR, BUT ANYTHING NEXT YEAR WILL HAVE A VERY SHORT FUSE FOR 2026, RIGHT? THAT'S NOT A PROJECT THAT YOU CAN FINISH IN TWO YEARS, YEAR AND A HALF, WHATEVER. IF WE HAVE MONEY THAT WE HAVE NOT ALLOCATED, I'M CONCERNED , WE CAN USE THOSE, WHERE WE CAN PUT THEM , THIS IS WHAT I KEPT ASKING , GIVE ME THE TRUE NUMBER ON THE BALANCE OF AGENCIES THAT HAVE NOT RESPONDED , MAYBE WE USE THEIR MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE. WE KEEP PUSHING THESE FURTHER DOWN , BY THE TIME WE NOTICE CAN BE JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH, BY THE TIME YOU GET STARTED IT WILL BE JUNE. WE REALLY NEED TO START LOOKING AT THAT. I HAVE A CONCERN ON THAT I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. YOUR RESPONSE IS VALID. THE NEXT PAGE, IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS A DISASTER AND WE HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE, WE COULD USE THOSE IN A DISASTER DECLARATION EMERGENCY. THAT IS A GOOD NEWS THERE. WE COULD ALSO USE THAT FOR SERVICE TRANSPORTATION, I THINK COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HAS ONE OF THEM RIGHT NOW FOR DRAINAGE. >> FOR BRIDGE WIDENING. SO THAT IS ALLOWABLE . THE KEY DATES ON THOSE ARE NOT IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE DECEMBER 31ST OF 2026. FOR TRANSPORTATION AND TITLE I PROJECTS, THE DEADLINE IS NOVEMBER 30TH OF 2026. >> SOONER THAN THE OTHER. SEPTEMBER FOR DISASTER DECLARATION OF COURSE THERE IS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION I HAVE EMAILED THEM SEVERAL TIMES >> THE AMOUNTS >> NOT IN THIS PRESENTATION, THERE IS MORE. SHE SAID THAT WAS THE LAST SLIDE. THIS SLIDE IS AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE HAVE OUR FUNDS, WHAT IS ALLOCATED RIGHT NOW. THIS IS COMING FROM PRECINCTS, AND OF COURSE, >> WHAT DO WE HAVE THIS BROKEN DOWN INTO? >> IT JUST HAS THE TOTAL FOR THE ALLOCATION ECONOMIC IMPACTS, 30 MILLION , THAT ONE WILL HAVE A DIVIDED UP . >> I WAS TRYING TO CONDENSE IT [02:25:03] AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. AND THEN THE THIRD ONE. >> THIS IS THE ONE THAT HE WAS WANTING THE NUMBERS ON, YES. OF COURSE, THIS IS BROKEN DOWN AND IT IS VERY DETAILED. >> YOU SAID THE REMAINING BALANCE. THAT IS THE TRUE BALANCE? >> THAT IS JUST WHAT WE HAVE NOT ALLOCATED YET. THAT IS ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS REMAINING BALANCES. THAT WOULD BE EACH OF YOU THAT HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER. >> WE ALLOCATE EVERYTHING ELSE. BALANCE? >> EVERYTHING HAS AND ALLOCATED. >> THE LAST CHUNK WAS ON THE ROOF, THEN WE HAVE THE SEWER AND THE PLUMBING ISSUES IN THE COUNTY. >> I SOLVE THE $'S GOING AND COMMISSIONER GONZALES HIS EYES, I JUST DID NOT WANT HIM TO SPEND MY MONEY. PROJECT WAS 50 MILLION 371,000. >> SINCE EVERYONE RECEIVED FOR EACH, THAT IS A TOTAL OF 20. SUBTRACTED FROM THE 70 MILLION, THE REMAINDER IS 50 MILLION. THAT WENT OUT TO COUNTYWIDE PROJECTS. >> YOU HAVE 10 PAGES OF THIS, YOU CAN GO ON TO THE NEXT PAGE? >> IS THERE ONE SPECIFIC THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO , YOU WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO ADDRESS? >> COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ HAS 122,000. HE HAS 122 THAT IS NOT ALLOCATED >> YEAH. THOSE ARE THE ONES COUNTED IN THE 4 MILLION. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IT IS ALLOCATED TO US THEN, RIGHT? I'M LOOKING AT THIS OTHER COUNTYWIDE , FOR INSTANCE, PUBLIC HEALTH. IT SAYS 2,900,000. INTERLOCAL. YOU HAVE THOSE IN THE BLUE AS A REMAINING ALLOCATION, THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN ALLOCATED. >> IT MEANS THAT THERE IS A RUNNING TOTAL RIGHT NOW. >> IT MEANS THAT THE JOB IS NOT FINISHED. >> IT IS EITHER IN THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS OR IN THE AGREEMENT REVIEW. >> ALL OF THAT MONEY IS SITTING THERE . THIS IS ALSO PROBABLY SOME OF OUR PROJECTS, RIGHT? >> THIS ONE IS HILLTOP, YES. >> THE COMMUNITY CENTER. >> THIS ONE IS YOURS. >> I'M LOOKING AT MINE NOW. ON THIS. IF I HAD TALKED TO HIM LAST WEEK. THEY SHOULD HAVE CALLED YOU. >> RIGHT NOW IT IS IN LEGAL. IN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. >> WE STILL HAVE ALMOST 1 MILLION. THE OTHER ONE ON THE CONSTABLE TOO , 330,000. [02:30:12] >> IT IS A COMBINATION OF THOSE THREE POSITIONS. IT SHOWS THAT THERE IS NOTHING ON THE CONSTABLE. HOW MUCH ARE THEY GIVING THE CONSTABLE. >> RIGHT NOW 504. 5400. >> AND THE ATTORNEY >> I THINK JENNY CAN ANSWER TO THAT. >> OUT OF YOUR OFFICE. THESE AMOUNTS SHOULD BE IN THERE, THERE SHOULD BE A DEDUCTION THERE. EVEN OCTOBER. >> I WANT TO KEEP THE COUNTY ATTORNEY , NOTHING THAT WENT TO YOUR DEPARTMENT. WHEN I DID THAT , HOW DOES IT CONNECT , WHEN WE APPROVE IT. I FOLLOW-UP THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE OR HUMAN RESOURCE CORRECT, TO SEE IF THEY ARE ACTIVE. >> THOSE POSITIONS ARE NOT FILLED RIGHT NOW. I BELIEVE THEY ARE POSTED. >> TRYING TO USE IT. DON'T TAKE TOO LONG. >> THERE IS A DELAY RIGHT NOW. I KNOW THAT DALE CAN ANSWER TO THIS. TAKING A LOT OF HIS PERSONAL EMPLOYEES , YOU KNOW, FROM ADDRESSING RIGHT AWAY. RIGHT NOW THEY ARE TRYING TO INTEGRATE WITH THE WORKADAY, HUMAN RESOURCES WELL. THERE IS A DELAY WITH PAYROLL INFORMATION ON MY END I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF TRAINING. DALE'S OFFICE. >> THE OLD TO THE NEW SYSTEM, IF WE HAVE ANY CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS OR ADJUSTMENTS , RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE ONE PERSON THAT CAN DO THAT. WE ARE TRYING TO LIMIT THAT, WE TRY TO LIMIT THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE PERSON. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHEN WE DO A CHANGE, MODIFICATION, IT AFFECTS ABOUT 40 DIFFERENT REPORTS THAT WE HAVE TO CHANGE. IT'S A LOT OF ENTRY FOR ONE PERSON. >> THE LEGAL SECRETARY, THAT FALLS IN THE SAME CATEGORY? >> WE HAVE A LEGAL SECRETARY AND , RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER ATTORNEY DOING HIS JOB AND ARE UNTIL WE CAN FIND SOMEONE WILLING AND ABLE TO DO ARE FOR -- ARPA AND COME TO WORK FOR THE COUNTY. >> JEFF WAS KIND OF RIGHT. HE WAS KIND OF IN THAT POSITION IN LIFE. IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO REGROUP ON THAT. >> I WILL GET IN TOUCH WITH THE COURT LATER. >> YOU CAN PUT IT IN AS A BUDGET CHALLENGE. IT IS FUNDED FOR TWO YEARS, THEN YOU JUST HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT AFTER THIS RUNS OUT , I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN DO THIS WITH TELLING SOMEONE IT IS ONLY FOR TWO YEARS, IT IS GOING TO BE HARD ENOUGH TO FIND SOMEONE PERMANENTLY. [02:35:08] I'M GOING THROUGH MINE. COUNTYWIDE ALLOCATIONS PROJECTS. COMPLETE COMPLETE COMPLETE. ALL THE MONEY WAS USED. >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> SO THERE ARE NO REMAINING ALLOCATIONS. >> NO, THERE IS NOT. THE BOTTOM LINE WILL BE ZERO, RIGHT? >> YES. >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT. >> THE CONTRACT AGREEMENT. THEY ARE UP TO 2026. I'M STILL RECEIVING SOME DOCUMENTATION FROM THEM. I DON'T WANT TO DISCLOSE EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE USING FOR FOR SECURITY PURPOSES BUT, THEY ARE STILL ACQUIRING >> ALL OF THESE IN PROGRESS, IS THAT THE SAME REASON? >> IT COULD BE VARIOUS REASONS. >> I DON'T KNOW IF EDWARD IS HERE OR NOT. HE MIGHT HAVE GONE. >> I KNOW FOR THE PARK UPGRADES , RIGHT NOW THERE ARE TWO WORK AUTHORIZATIONS OUT . I BELIEVE THERE ARE FIVE PROJECTS. THERE ARE THREE PENDING. >> FOR PARK UPGRADES. ON PAGE 6. EXPENDITURE CATEGORY TWO. SECOND ROW. YEAH. PROGRESS. IT MIGHT'VE BEEN PROGRESS. >> WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY INVOICES YET. >> ALL RIGHT. >> THE FULL AMOUNT IS STILL THERE. OKAY. NOW ANOTHER PAGE. THIS ONE IS COMPLETE. THE BALANCE WOULD STILL BE THERE, OR IS IT GONE? >> NO, IF IT IS COMPLETE IT IS ZEROED OUT. LET'S SEE. PAGE 6. THE FIRST EXPENDITURE CATEGORY, NUMBER TWO. VETERANS FOOD PANTRY, THOSE ARE REMAINING BALANCE, $13.28. THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK. I WOULD NEED THE PERMISSION OF THE COURT TO AN ALLOCATE THOSE MONIES AND PUT IT BACK TO THE REMAINING BALANCE. >> I THINK IT , WE WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE MORE. REMAINING BALANCE. >> YEAH, LET'S SEE HERE. THOSE IN PROGRESS , WHEN DO WE SEE THIS, WE SHOULD HAVE SOME MOVEMENT ON THIS, HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THE YEAR RIGHT? >> SUNRISE NEUTRAL TRAIL. WE JUST HAD A MEETING, WE HAVE RECEIVED INVOICES FOR THOSE. IT SHOULD BE COMING TO THE NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT AGENDA ITEM . >> WE NEED TO TELL OUR ENGINEERS, PROBABLY, WHATEVER THEY ARE GOING TO SUBMIT NEEDS TO BE SUBMITTED. THEY SHOULD BE SUBMITTING THEIR INVOICES. ANOTHER QUESTION. I NORMALLY DON'T DEAL WITH THEM. IT COULD BE WHOEVER IS OVERSEEING THAT PROJECT, FOR THE STORYTIME TELLING. I BELIEVE IT GOES TO EDWARD. >> AT THE END. YOU DON'T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THE END. [02:40:07] >> WHEN I RECEIVED THE INVOICE, THAT IS WHEN I KNOW IT WILL BE. SOMETHING AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR, AFTER 2024 WE CANNOT REALLOCATE, DIDN'T YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE REMAINING BALANCES , AND IT COULD BE USED ON SOMETHING IF THERE WAS A JOB THAT IS FINISHED, IF THERE IS A BALANCE LEFT? >> BEFORE 2024. WE CAN MOVE THE MONIES AROUND. >> WE NEED TO USE EVERY DIME IN THERE. >> WE NEED TO START CLOSING SOME OF THESE. ARE YOU CONTACTING THESE AGENCIES? HOW DO WE ? >> WE ARE SUPPOSED TO, ON OUR PROJECT I GUESS. >> I'M DOING IT IN MY PROJECTS. THAT ONE SUBMITTED TODAY , WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE COMING IN NEXT MEETING. TRYING TO MOVE THINGS AS FAST AS WE CAN. >> FOR I.T., I KNOW THAT THEY ARE WORKING, THERE IS LEGAL REVIEW ON THE AGREEMENTS , THERE ARE DIFFERENT STATUSES. ALL OF THIS, COUNTYWIDE. SUBMITTING ANYTHING, LIKE A MEMO OR SOMETHING TO THEM, WHERE WE ADD, HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU. WE COULD SIT THERE AND WAIT FOR THIS PAPERWORK A LONG TIME BUT WE KNOW, IN A QUARTER, WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM. WE NEED TO START LIGHTING A FIRE AND SAY WHERE WE AT. >> I HAVE. JUST YESTERDAY, I THINK WE RECEIVED AN INVOICE FOR PUBLIC WORKS EQUIPMENT. WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE MOVING. >> DOCUMENTING, NOTIFYING. THEY WILL COME BACK AND SAY NOBODY CALLED ME. >> THIS WAY YOU HAVE A NOTIFICATION ON YOUR END. >> OUR GRANDSON DIRECTOR IS ON THE EMAILS WHERE THERE IS CORRESPONDENCE BACK AND FORTH. PROGRESS. THE ONES THAT DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. START PUSHING AND SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW. WE CANNOT WAIT UNTIL MAY OF 2024. THE TIME IS GOING TO GET SHORTER AND SHORTER. A BIG PROJECT, THEY'RE NOT AN EFFICIENT TWO YEARS, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT. >> REGARDING OTHER RELATED MATTERS , I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN , A DELAY AS FAR AS POSITIONS ARE CONCERNED , IT CAME TO MY ATTENTION THAT THE DEPUTY CONSTABLE FOR PRECINCT 5 , THEY ARE STILL USING A , I GUESS LAW ENFORCEMENT. I WAS WONDERING IF, WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE COURT IF WE COULD UTILIZE ANY REMAINING BALANCES ON PAGE 7 , SECOND ROW >> I DID NOT THINK WE HAD ANY REMAINING BALANCES. >> PAGE 7, UNDER PUBLIC WORK PUBLIC SECTOR STAFF POSITION. THERE WAS A DISCREPANCY AS FAR AS ACQUIRING THAT INFORMATION AS IF IT WAS VACANT OR NOT VACANT , SOME POSITIONS THAT WERE MOVED FROM ONE PRECINCT TO ANOTHER , THIS POSITION GOT OVERLOOKED. I BELIEVE IN YOUR PRECINCT , ONE OF THE CONSTABLES RETIRED. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE GOING TO USE THIS TO FUND ANOTHER CONSTABLE. I KNOW YOU ALLOCATED 90,000. [02:45:09] ASKING, I'M SORRY. >> CONTINUE , TO CONTINUE PAYING FOR THE POSITION, I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD UTILIZE THE REMAINING BALANCES TO COVER >> IT IS ALREADY FINISHED THE OTHER WORK . THAT IS A REMAINING BALANCE THAT IS AVAILABLE TO USE ON SOMETHING, BUT WHERE IS THE REMAINING BALANCE? >> PAGE 7. >> NO, I GET IT, THAT IS COUNTYWIDE? YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU WANT TO MOVE THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED IT. >> NO, IF WE COULD USE IT TO CONTINUE PAYING FOR CONSTABLE SERVICES AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THEY NEED SECURITY AT THAT LOCATION. >> WHO WAS PAYING FOR IT BEFORE? >> IT WAS UNDER CONTINGENCY. >> THE ONE OUT THERE. >> I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE ONE THAT WE SAID WE WOULD DO FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND THEN THEY HAD TO GO FIND SOMEONE BECAUSE WE DID NOT WANT TO KEEP IT GOING FOREVER. MAYBE I'M NOT THINKING OF THE RIGHT ONE. >> IT HAS AN EXPIRATION DATE OF DECEMBER 31ST 2024. >> WE HAVE ONE MORE YEAR. >> WE DON'T NEED TO DECIDE THAT TODAY. >> I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE PAYING OR HAVING HIM ON STAFF UNDER PUBLIC SECTOR. >> WE HAVE THE WHOLE YEAR, IT IS THROUGH 24, RIGHT? >> THE CONSTABLE, THE SECURITY. HE IS HIRED RIGHT NOW, HE IS WORKING, BUT WHEN THE VOTE CAME IN ON THE POSITIONS AND THE DECISION WAS MADE, AT THAT TIME, IT WAS STATED IT WAS VACANT BUT IT WAS NOT VACANT. SO BY SAYING VACANT YOU DID NOT ALLOCATE ANY MONEY FOR THAT POSITION. YOUR POSITION IS VACANT AT THIS TIME THAT WAS THE CONFUSION AT THIS TIME. VACANT, BUT STATED IT WAS NOT. THIS IS WHERE, WE DON'T ALLOCATE ANY MONEY ON HIS POSITION THEN HIS POSITION WOULD HAVE TO END, THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE ASKING. THIS, I THINK WE SHOULD. THE REMAINING FOR THE YEAR 24 WOULD COME OUT OF THIS, NOT OUT OF ANYBODY'S PRECINCT STUFF? >> THERE WAS A CONTRACT ALREADY DONE, HE IS HIRED, HE IS WORKING. IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY ALLOCATED MONEY HE HAS TO BE LET GO. >> ISN'T THIS THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS HIRED BY THE CONSTABLE , ONE THAT WE HAD A MEETING ABOUT , THEY MISUNDERSTOOD WHEN IT WAS GOING TO BE A TEMPORARY POSITION AND THEY HIRED HIM FULL-TIME TO THE COUNTY. >> WE WENT BACK THROUGH THE COURT RECORDS AND IT WAS MISLEADING , SO HE IS A JUDGE SCOTT EMPLOYEE. WE VOTED TO VACATE? >> DURING THE BUDGET, THE POSITIONS THAT WERE OPEN WE VOTED TO ELIMINATE. SO THE MONEY THAT YOU WILL USE THERE, IS THAT GOING TO SHORTCHANGE SOMEBODY ELSE? >> THIS IS A REMAINING BALANCE. WHEN HE ASKED DO WE HAVE ANY MORE COUNTYWIDE MONEY WE SAID NO. >> IT SAYS HERE, IN PROGRESS, THAT IS WHAT I WAS ASKING. >> SINCE LAW ENFORCEMENT GETS PAID DIFFERENTLY THERE ARE SOME LINGERING AMOUNTS THAT NEED TO BE BACK TRAP -- BACKTRACKED. >> WILL THIS COVER THAT THEN? WE VOTE TO DO THAT, IS THAT ENOUGH? >> IT SHOULD BE , AND THAT OF COURSE THERE IS COLLECTIVE [02:50:04] BARGAINING AS WELL. >> I DON'T WANT TO COME OUT SHORT OVER HERE. >> I THINK WE NEED MORE INFORMATION ON IT. WE HAVE IT, HIS EMPLOYMENT DOES NOT END UNTIL NEXT YEAR. LET'S GET NUMBERS ON WHAT IS LEFT IN THE BALANCE AND WHAT IT IS GOING TO COST TO FUND HIM THROUGH THE NEXT TWO YEARS IF WE CONTINUE IT FOR TWO YEARS. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. DOES THIS INCLUDE ALL OF THE CURRENT POSITIONS? THE CURRENT POSITIONS THAT ARE FUNDED. DID IT COME OUT OF THAT? >> THAT HIS LAST FISCAL YEARS. >> WHERE ARE THE CURRENT ONES? >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY . >> WHAT ABOUT YOURS? >> MINE WAS VOTED DIFFERENTLY, AND JEFF'S WAS VOTED DIFFERENTLY. IT WAS BUDGETED DIFFERENTLY. >> THAT IS THE COUNTYWIDE STUFF. >> OTHER THAN THE 329 RIGHT NOW. WE NEED TO FUND THAT POSITION. >> IF I HAVE ALLOCATED TO A POSITION THAT IS NOT NEEDED I NEED TO PUT THIS BACK IN THE POT. >> WOULD IT BE OKAY IF WE CAN REACH THE CONSTABLE AND YOUR PRECINCT TO SEE IF HE IS GOING TO HIRE SOMEONE? >> I DIDN'T DO IT TO HIRE SOMEONE EXTRA. I FIGURED IT WOULD BE , >> YEAH. I GUESS ASK. I WILL LEAVE MINE ALONE, YOU CAN FIGURE THIS OUT, I WILL FIGURE MINE OUT LATER. >> I THINK WE JUST NEED MORE INFORMATION WITH THE EXACT NUMBERS AND WHAT IT IS GOING TO COST. WHAT WE HAVE OUTSTANDING. CORRECT. THE BALANCES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> THAT IS IT. THAT WILL WORK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I DID HAVE A QUESTION. FOR YOU, WHAT I UNDERSTOOD SHE IS GOING INTO A DIFFERENT ROLE, SOMEBODY IS EVENTUALLY GOING TO TAKE OVER >> IT IS POSTED FOR THE POSITION TO >> THAT IS NOT READY RIGHT [14. Discuss and consider the following: selection of Texas State Roofing Company for consulting services for review, analysis, evaluation, and recommendations regarding the Nueces County Courthouse Complex Roof Repair/Replacement Project; approve Order; authorize approval and execution of Professional Services Agreement for $25,000 with Texas State Roofing Company; and all related matters.] NOW. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 14, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING, REVIEW ANALYSIS, REGARDING THE COURTHOUSE COMPLEX. NEED TO PROVE THIS FOR 25 THOUSAND, WE HAD PREVIOUSLY GONE OUT FOR ONE OF THESE. IT WAS TOO OLD. IT WAS DONE IN 2020 I THINK , THE DATES WERE TOO LONG. IT WAS NOT CURRENT, SO WE NEEDED TO GO OUT. THIS IS A THIRD-PARTY PERSON THAT IS JUST GOING TO GIVE US A TRUE EVALUATION. WE WILL NOT BE BIDDING ON THE WORK AFTER THE EVALUATION IS DONE EITHER. HE OR HIS COMPANY >> HIS JOB WOULD BE TO JUST GIVE US AN INDEPENDENT EVALUATION OF WHAT WE REALLY NEED. OKAY. MOTION TO PASS THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE NEED ON A ROOF. >> MOTION TO SELECT AND APPROVE THE ORDER AND AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF THE AGREEMENT, THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT. CAN WE DO ALL THREE OF THOSE IN ONE? >> THAT IS MY MOTION. >> WE HAVE A MOTION, IT HAS BEEN SECONDED. ANY OTHER [15. Discuss and consider returning to the previous Commissioner's Court nomination and voting process on the Port of Corpus Christi applicants, RTA applicants and any other Board appointments] DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES ITEM NUMBER 15. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER RETURNING [02:55:05] FOR THE PREVIOUS COMMISSIONERS COURT NOMINATION AND VOTING PROCESS ON THE COURT OF CORPUS CHRISTI APPLICATIONS, ANY OTHER BOARD APPOINTMENTS. >> THIS IS COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ. YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS ONE? IT JUST SEEMS, IT HAS AND VERY CONFUSING. THE PROCESS THAT WE HAD PLACED WAS SIMPLE. >> I'M SORRY, I APOLOGIZE. THE POLICY SEEMS TO BE CONFUSING, IT IS NOT HAIRY CLEAR. THE PROCESS THAT WE HAD IN PLACE WAS SIMPLE, HR OR ANYONE ELSE WAS NOT INVOLVED IN SELECTING THE TOP TWO, FOUR OR FIVE CANDIDATES. WE SHOULD KNOW IF THE PERSONS WE NOMINATE ARE QUALIFIED. I MOVE THAT WE RESCIND THE LAST MOTION ADOPTED ON OCTOBER 25TH REGARDING BOARD APPOINTMENT NOMINATIONS AND VOTING PROCESSES AND OTHER BOARD APPOINTMENTS AND MOVE THAT WE CONTINUE WITH THE ORIGINAL APPOINTMENT SELECTION PROCESS >> I'M MAKING THAT MOTION. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALES, SECONDED FOR DISCUSSION. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? >> I DON'T KNOW. >> IT IS CONFUSING TO ME TOO. I DON'T WANT TO GET CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF APPOINTING SOMEONE I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR. IF I'M APPOINTING WHEN I HAVE TO .2. I DON'T KNOW. >> MY UNDERSTANDING, THE INTERVIEWS, WE CAN DO EVERYONE, I THINK WE HAVE HAD NINE PEOPLE APPLY. AND THEN I DO UNDERSTAND, I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY SEVERAL PEOPLE WE DO NOT HAVE A PROCESS , I KNOW I HAD ONLY BEEN HERE TWO DAYS WITH OUR OTHER APPOINTMENT, IT WAS KIND OF HAPHAZARD, THAT IS MY FAILURE ON MY PART. I DID NOT KNOW HOW YOU DID IT OR HOW WE DID NOT DO IT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. HAVING SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE STRUCTURED IS NOT A BAD IDEA BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE EASY AND UNDERSTANDABLE AS WELL. >> I GUESS I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS NOT UNDERSTANDABLE. I THINK THAT THERE WAS ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION THAT SOMEONE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT WAS CERTAINLY NOT THE INTENT, I WANTED TO TRY TO CLEAN UP ON THAT. THAT IS WHAT I'M SAYING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS CONFUSING. EVERYBODY WHO APPLIES , IF ANY MEMBER OF THE COURT WANTS TO INTERVIEW THEM, ALL THEY HAVE TO SAY IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO INTERVIEW THEM AND THIS IS, THE BACKUP IS NOT WHAT WAS PASSED, BY THE WAY. JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, THE BACKUP THAT WAS INCLUDED IS NOT WHAT WAS PASSED, I DON'T HAVE WHAT WAS PASSED IN FRONT OF ME. BASICALLY, EVERYBODY PICKS WHO THEY WANT TO INTERVIEW , THEN THERE IS AN INTERVIEW PROCESS, EVERYBODY WOULD GET TO NOMINATE ONE PERSON TO PUT ON THE BOARD, BUT EVERYBODY WOULD GET TO VOTES AND THOSE TWO VOTES WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR SEPARATE PEOPLE, YOU COULD NOT VOTE FOR THE SAME PERSON TWICE, AND THEN THE TOP , IN THIS CASE, TWO OPENINGS, THE TOP TWO WOULD WIN AS LONG AS THEY HAVE THREE VOTES , IF SOMEONE HAS THREE VOTES AND SOMEONE ELSE DOES NOT, THEN YOU WOULD GO TO THE NEXT ROUND. I'M HAPPY TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE CONFUSION IS, BUT WE BASICALLY PASSED AT THE LAST TIME SAYING WE WOULD TRY IT ONCE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENED. I THINK WE OUGHT TO TRY IT ONCE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS, IF SOMEONE COULD TELL ME WHAT IS CONFUSING AND WE NEED TO WORK ON WORDING, WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS CONFUSING, WE NEED TO WORK ON WORDING, I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO DO THAT. THIS IS THE THIRD TIME WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT, I HAVE SAID THAT EVERY TIME. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SAY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND AND WE NEED TO TIGHTEN UP THE WORDING THEN LET'S TIGHTEN UP THE WORDING, I [03:00:01] THINK WE OUGHT TO GIVE THIS A SHOT. I THINK IT IS A VERY OPEN AND TRANSPARENT WAY OF DOING THINGS. WE ALL TALK ABOUT WANTING TO DO THAT, HAVING PEOPLE COME IN AN INTERVIEW, I'M ANXIOUS TO HEAR FROM FOLKS AND WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY. I WANT THE PUBLIC TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY. IT IS JUST CREATING A PROCESS FOR THOSE FOR THAT I THINK ARE LITTLE BIT MORE HIGH PROFILE IN THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT EXACTLY. >> I DID HEAR THE QUESTION THAT YOU POSE. I DID HEAR THAT, I COULD JUST SAY MY TWO VOTES COULD GO FOR THIS. YOU CAN ONLY VOTE FOR ONE PERSON, YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR TWO SEPARATE PEOPLE, THAT WAS MY ONE OTHER QUESTION. >> THEY HAVE ALREADY WORKED ON SOME LANGUAGE FOR THAT, I ASKED THEM TO DO THAT, TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE CLEAR THAT IT HAS TO BE FOR TWO SEPARATE PEOPLE, YOU CANNOT VOTE TWICE FOR ONE PERSON. THAT IS VALID , I GUESS YOU COULD LOOK AT IT THAT WAY. THERE ARE SOME SPECIFICS AS TO WHY IT IS CONFUSING, I'M OPEN FOR SUGGESTION, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING THAT GIVES EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO BE HEARD. ANY WAY. >> HR DOES NOT GIVE US ANY SUGGESTIONS OR ANYTHING. THIS IS US. >> IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT ALL NINE PEOPLE, SAY I WANT TO INTERVIEW EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. IF YOU SAY ONLY WANT TO INTERVIEW THESE TWO. HOWEVER MANY THE COURT PICKS, THAT IS HOW MANY WE INTERVIEW. >> FOR ME, THE WHOLE PROCESS. THAT HAS BEEN THE GUEST QUESTION, HOW DOES THE PROCESS WORK. I THINK, FOR ME, IT HAS ALWAYS AND ABOUT TRANSPARENCY. I KNOW WE ALL WANT THAT , I THINK WE ALL SUPPORT WANTING TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSED. I TELL PEOPLE IT IS NOT GOING TO BE PRETTY, IT IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE A UNANIMOUS VOTE BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY QUALIFIED APPLICANTS THAT WE ARE ALREADY AWARE OF, WE STILL HAVE 2 1/2 HOURS BEFORE THE DEADLINE. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT TO CHOOSE FROM. IT IS GOING TO BE STRUGGLING, JUST FOR EACH APPOINTEE TO GET, AT A MINIMUM, THREE VOTES. IT WILL BE HERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE. THERE ARE NOT ANY DEALINGS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED. I WAS THE ONE THAT BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE BACK WHEN WE FIRST APPOINTED SHERIFF HUBER BACK IN 2017 WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE COURT, TO HAVE A PUBLIC PROCESS. WE DID NOT GO INTO PRIVATE SESSION. THAT SYSTEM MIGHT WORK FOR THEM BUT WE HAVE NOT AND OPERATING LIKE THAT FOR AT LEAST THE LAST SIX YEARS. I SUPPORT THAT. I WANT AN OPEN PROCESS SO PEOPLE CAN HEAR WHAT APPLICANTS HAVE TO SAY. YOU KNOW, THEY DESERVE TO HEAR WHO THE NEXT TWO APPOINTMENTS WILL BE, WHERE THEY STAND ON KEY ISSUES. UNFORTUNATELY, THE ONLY ISSUE, WE CAN PROBABLY NOT SPEND AN HOUR OR TWO PER APPLICANT, AT LEAST 20 OR 30 MINUTES FOR EACH APPLICANT WILL BE A LOT OF TIME. IF WE WANT TO SEE ONE OR TWO NAMES BROUGHT UP OR MORE, THEN WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. I THINK THAT THAT IS WHAT THIS SUPPORTS. I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET CLARIFICATION ON SOME THINGS, THAT IS THE BIGGEST QUESTION I'M ASKED, ABOUT THE PROCEDURAL PART OF HOW DO WE ACTUALLY VOTE. PEOPLE WILL KNOW, ALL NAMES, ALL 10 NAMES, HOW MANY NAMES WE HAVE. HAVE THEY ALL BEEN ASKED TO APPEAR AND INTERVIEW FOR US? PEOPLE WILL KNOW THAT BEFORE HAND , EVERYONE WILL HERE, JUST LIKE WE ARE, ON SOME KEY ISSUES WHERE THEY STAND AND WHERE WE STAND. I THINK THAT THAT IS IMPORTANT. DOES THIS POLICY, MAYBE ALL OF THE PARTS OF IT ARE NOT NECESSARILY SMOOTHED OUT. IF JENNY IS WORKING ON THAT AND CAN HELP TO PROVIDE SOME MORE CLARITY, I AM FOR THAT. THE PROCESS BEFORE ON APPOINTMENTS IS PRETTY MUCH, YOU JUST THROW A NAME OUT , YOU MAKE A MOTION, IT GOES UP AND THEN IT GOES DOWN. DO YOU THROW TWO NAMES OUT, WE HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE. I HOPE WE GET THAT CLARIFIED , WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE A LITTLE BIT MORE ESTABLISHED AS FAR AS FOR THE PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND, IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THEN, LIKE I SAID, MOST OTHER ENTITIES FOLLOW, THERE ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE AN EXECUTIVES SESSION OR SOME SORT OF [03:05:01] DISCUSSION BEFORE HAND. THEN ABOUT TAKES PLACE. I WANT THE WHOLE WORLD TO SEE, I'M ABOUT SIMPLICITY, I WANT TO SEE A CHALKBOARD, WHITEBOARD WHATEVER, I WANT TO WRITE ALL OF THE NAMES AND EVERYBODY JUST GO DOWN THE LIST, THAT IS HOW THE SYSTEM IS RIGHT NOW, THEN GREAT. I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A SCREENING. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS GOING TO BE EFFICIENT TO HAVE ALL OF THOSE NAMES IF WE HAVE ALREADY WORKED OUR WAY DOWN TO A HANDFUL OF NAMES. IT SEEMS LIKE ALMOST ON A DAILY BASIS , I'M TRYING TO DO MY HOMEWORK RIGHT NOW. I THINK THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO HEAR WHERE WE STAND ON KEY ISSUES. I DEFINITELY SUPPORT KEEPING THAT INTERVIEW PROCESS THAT IS BASICALLY A TWO-STEP PROCESS THAT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED, I SUPPORT THAT. >> YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE NOW , IT DIDN'T SAY THAT YOU COULDN'T INTERVIEW EVERYBODY. WE CHOSE TO DO THOSE THINGS AT THE TIMES THAT THIS CAME UP. THE PROCESS , RIGHT NOW, YOU SAYING, I'M OKAY WITH INTERVIEWING EVERYBODY. YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO CUT IT DOWN TO FIVE OR FOUR. THAT IS NOT WHAT I WANT TO DO. IF SOMEBODY APPLIES FOR THE JOB , OR FOR THE POSITION, FOR EMPLOYMENT, HE NEEDS TO BE HEARD . WHY ARE WE GOING TO CUT IT BACK? I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR AT ALL , PERIOD. I THINK WE NEED TO OPEN IT UP , INTERVIEW WHOEVER APPLIES. THE NAMES UP THERE. I DON'T THINK THAT THE PROCESS WE HAD BEFORE, IT WAS ALL UP TO US HOW WE WANTED TO HANDLE IT. WE NEVER WENT BEFORE HUBER. IT WAS NOT THAT WE COULDN'T DO IT, WE JUST COULD NEVER DO IT. THAT TIME WE DID BRING IT UP. OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP. WE DID. YOU KNOW, I DID NOT SEE ANYTHING THAT WAS NOT WORKING BEFORE. NOBODY IS HAPPY , IF YOU DON'T GET IN THERE YOU'RE NOT HAPPY. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE PEOPLE THAT ARE HAPPY AND PEOPLE THAT ARE UNHAPPY. YOU KNOW, YOU VOTE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT THEY WANT, THEN YOU DID THE RIGHT THING. I THINK, ALL ALONG, THE SYSTEM WE HAVE NOW, IT IS OKAY. IF YOU WANT TO SAY, OKAY, WE DO WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW, I THINK THEY SHOULD COME BEFORE US AND SAY, THIS IS WHY WANT TO BE CONSIDERED. YOU KNOW, I'LL GIVE YOU MY APPLICATION, INTERVIEW EVERYBODY. HERE'S WHAT I CAN DO. IT WOULD BE AN OPEN FORUM AND BE TRANSPARENT , IT WOULD BE UP TO US TO VOTE AND WHO WE ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR. I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD CUT ANYBODY OUT. >> IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY AND I HAVE READ THROUGH THIS SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE IT IS VERY CONFUSING, EVERYONE WOULD COME, LET'S SAY DECEMBER 13TH, THAT IS THE COURT DATE THAT WE HAVE, EVERYBODY GETS FIVE MINUTES AT THE PODIUM, ANYBODY THAT APPLIES THAT WANTS TO COME IN, THEN EACH ONE OF US, DOWN THE ROAD, WOULD PICK ONE NAME OUT OF THE APPLICANT'S THAT HAVE JUST INTERVIEWED. THAT GOES ON THE WHITEBOARD, THE FIVE NAMES THAT ARE THEN ON THE BOARD, EACH ONE OF US, DOWN THE ROAD, PICKS TWO NAMES OFF OF THAT BOARD , THEN IT CONTINUES UNTIL SOMEBODY GETS THREE VOTES, OR TWO PEOPLE GET THREE VOTES IF WE HAVE TWO POSITIONS OPEN, IS THAT CORRECT? I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE IF I UNDERSTAND IT. >> THAT'S HOW WE DO IT ALL THE TIME. WE HAVE TWO VACANCIES. TIME SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. DOWN THE LINE. HOWEVER MANY PEOPLE APPLY THAT WANT TO SHOW UP AND SPEAK BEFORE HAND , THEN WE HAVE THE BOARD IN THE BACK. >> WHAT THE POLICY DOES , IF THERE ARE 10 APPLICANTS AND YOU [03:10:11] WANT TO INTERVIEW ALL 10 OF THEM, GO AHEAD AND INTERVIEW ALL 10 OF THEM. IT GIVES US THE RIGHT TO INTERVIEW AS MANY AS WE WANT. >> UP TO THE APPLICANTS. >> ALLOW EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO SHOW UP THAT DAY TO BE HERE. DAY AND SAY THIS IS WHAT I WANT. FOR ME TO SAY I ONLY WANT FOUR. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S RIGHT. THINGS THAT EVERYBODY THAT SUBMITS AN APPLICATION IS INTERESTED, COME IN ON THAT DAY, PUT YOUR NAME DOWN AND GET INTERVIEWED. NINE THAT SHOW UP, NINE INTERVIEWS. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CANNOT CONSIDER THE ONE WHO IS NOT HERE BECAUSE HE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION. WILL KICK HIM OUT, THAT IS WHAT I REALLY DON'T. IF YOU WANT TO SIT JUST, THIS WAS BASED ON YOUR LAST SUGGESTION BECAUSE YOU DID NOT LIKE THE HR STUFF . HE THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS THE BETTER WAY TO DO IT. IF YOU THINK THIS IS BETTER AND YOU WANT TO MAKE IT WHERE ANYBODY THAT APPLIES WANTS TO COME AND GIVE THEIR FIVE MINUTE SPIEL, I DON'T CARE. I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO BE HEARD. I TRIED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING. IF 57,000 PEOPLE APPLY AND YOU WANT THEM TO ALL COME IN, LITERALLY, ON SOME OF THESE, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A TON, THAT'S OKAY. I WAS JUST SAYING. >> IF YOU WANT TO SAY THAT WHOEVER APPLIES GETS TO COME AND GIVE THEIR FIVE MINUTES. >> IF THEY CHOOSE TO. >> THEY CAN BE IN THE AUDIENCE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO SPEAK, IT IS UP TO THEM. >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE HERE TO BE NOMINATED. I THINK THAT IS GOOD. >> I JUST DON'T WANT TO ELIMINATE ANYBODY. >> IF THAT IS WHAT THE COURT WANTS TO DO, MAKE THAT AMENDMENT, ANYBODY WHO APPLIES ON THOSE GETS TO BE HEARD . >> I THINK WE CUT THE TIME DOWN TO LIKE THREE MINUTE , SOMETHING, FIVE MINUTES PER PERSON. >> THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF TIME FOR QUESTIONS. >> YOU KNOW YOU COULD GIVE THEM A THREE-MINUTE OPENING, THEN WHATEVER QUESTIONS THE COURT HAS FOR THEM. >> THAT SOUNDS GOOD. >> CURRENTLY THERE IS A MOTION TO RESCIND, WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT. THAT IS UP TO YOU, YOU HAVE MADE YOUR MOTION. >> CAN I FIGURE WHATEVER IS EASIER? >> WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD, YES. >> YOU WANT TO AMEND THIS TO WHERE IT SAYS, ANYBODY THAT APPLIES THAT WANTS TO COME AND SPEAK. I'M ASKING, IT WAS YOUR IDEA. >> HE RESCINDED HIS. >> I CAN MAKE A MOTION , ANYBODY APPLIES FOR A POSITION FOR ANY BOARD. THE FOUR MAJOR BOARDS. YOU KNOW, THEY BE ALLOWED TO INTERVIEW , EVEN IF NOT HERE, THEY CAN STILL BE CONSIDERED FOR APPOINTMENT. >> THAT WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY PASSED , RIGHT? >> AN AMENDMENT TO WHAT HAS ALREADY PASSED. THAT DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT OF APPLICANTS. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A [17. Discuss and consider upcoming Commissioners Court meeting date(s), workshop date(s), and related matters.] SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THANK YOU, THE MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER 17 , DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE UPCOMING MEETING DATES, IT IS IN YOUR PACKET BUT WE ALSO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING WE NEED TO HAVE TO CANVAS THE VOTE ON MONDAY AT 2:00, CAN ANYONE BE HERE MONDAY AT 2:00 MONDAY. WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE EVERYONE HERE. IS ANYBODY GOING TO BE HERE? I WILL BE HERE. >> 2:00 ON MONDAY. WE JUST NEED A COUPLE OF PEOPLE. YOU ARE NOT SURE YET. YES, OKAY. WE WILL DO THAT. IF YOU COULD [03:15:02] BE HERE TARA WILL HAVE TO POST I GUESS. >> I'M SORRY, I HAVE TO GO BACK , I DID NOT DO THAT. I'M SORRY. >> DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A VOTE ON THAT? POSTED, WE DON'T NEED A VOTE ON THAT. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HAS CLARIFICATION. >> I'M JUST GOING TO DEFER TO YOU ON THAT TO AMEND, PLEASE. I CAN LOOK FOR IT TOO. >> IT IS BASICALLY THE ONE THAT SAYS YOU CANNOT CAST YOUR VOTE WITH BOTH OF THEM GOING TO ONE INDIVIDUAL. >> EACH COMMISSIONER COUNTY JUDGE, IF MULTIPLE POSITIONS ARE OPEN THE HIGHEST SCORING APPLICANTS WILL FILL THE OPENING POSITION. EACH COMMISSIONER COUNTY JUDGE HAS TWO VOTES , IN ROUND ONE, THEY MUST BE FOR TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. >> A SECOND AND AN EMOTION-- A SECOND AND EMOTION. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> OH, YOU HAVE . JUST CLARIFYING. >> YOU CANNOT VOTE FOR THE SAME PERSON TWICE. >> SOMEBODY ASKED ME ABOUT IT. [18. Discuss and Consider removing Commissioner's Court from the ranking process for potential bidders on Nueces County projects and/or services including architects, engineers, contractors, management and consulting services, along with all related matters] OKAY, PERFECT. NUMBER 18. THIS IS YOU AGAIN, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REMOVING COMMISSIONERS COURT FROM THE RANKING PROCESS FOR POTENTIAL BIDDERS I THINK MICHAEL ROBINSON WAS GOING TO TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS ONE TOO. AM I PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT? >> I'M SORRY I DID NOT HAVE ANY BACKUP, I DID NOT KNOW WHERE WE WERE GOING. >> I LEARNED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT LATE >> IN READING THE COMMISSIONERS AGENDA ITEM, I WANTED TO INVESTIGATE BASED ON THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS ARE SITTING WITH SELECTION AUTHORITY RIGHT NOW ON THE PROJECTS. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, WELL WE ENTER INTO THIS DISCUSSION, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY MENTIONING OF ANY OF THE INDIVIDUAL PROPOSERS , THE OPTION I HAVE FOR THE COURT TO CONSIDER IS TO CONTINUE ON THE PATH THAT WE ARE ON WITH SOME DIRECTION, I BELIEVE THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAD PROVIDED TO YOU ALL LAST NIGHT , THIS MORNING, I'M SORRY. AND THEN THAT DESCRIBES A PROCESS WHERE THE SCORING WOULD HE PROVIDED AND WE WOULD HERE IN OPEN COURT DURING A WORKSHOP SESSION OR THE ACTUAL AGENDA ITEM ITSELF. ALTERNATIVELY, IF THE COURT WISHES TO NOW CHOOSE TO RELEGATE THE EVALUATION AUTHORITY AT THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS , IT CAN DO SO BUT IT WOULD NEED TO BE WITH A NEW ORDER, VERY SIMILAR TO THE STANDARD ORDER WHEN WE PROVIDE A SELECTION COMMITTEE TO THE COURT , I HAVE TAKEN THE LIBERTY OF DRAFTING AN ORDER FOR THAT PURPOSE, IF THE COURT SO CHOOSES. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TWO OPTIONS IN FRONT OF YOU BASICALLY , CONTINUE ON THE PATH OR CHOOSING TO DELEGATE. DIDN'T WANT TO LOOK AT NAMES. IF WE DO THE SELECTION AND THEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG, OUR NAME IS GOING TO BE ON THE SELECTION. WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE? I'M NOT AN EXPERT. WHEN I STARTED LOOKING AT IT SAYING, THIS IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY ELSE BESIDES ME, YOU KNOW. I DID NOT EVEN LOOK AT NAMES, WHATEVER. I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND SAY THAT I CAN MAKE GOOD DECISIONS ON INSURANCE BECAUSE I DON'T [03:20:04] KNOW. >> THAT WAS MY PROBLEM TOO I STOPPED WHEN I SAW THIS ITEM. IF I REMEMBER THIS ONE RIGHT , IT WAS BECAUSE WE DID NOT FEEL LIKE WE HAD ANYBODY AT THE TIME ON STAFF WHO WAS AN EXPERT ENOUGH IN INSURANCE TO DO THIS. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE CONCEPT BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHO TO PUT ON THE COMMITTEE, NO OFFENSE. >> THERE WAS A GOOD IDEA ON THAT THIS MORNING. >> I DID NOT WANT TO GET TOO FAR INTO IT. I SIGNED MY CONFIDENTIALITY BUT THEN I PAUSE, I FIGURED IF WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT I BETTER WAIT, IT WAS DUE YESTERDAY. SO WHAT IS YOUR SUGGESTION? >> MY SUGGESTION WOULD THE HR DIRECTOR AND A DELEGATE FROM HIS OFFICE , OH ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY DEALS WITH THE PROGRAM ON A DAILY BASIS WORKS IN HIS OFFICE. THE COUNTY AUDITOR AND THE DELEGATE TO HIS OFFICE. HE ALSO HAS A STAFF MEMBER WHO DEALS WITH THIS EXACT WORK ON A DAILY BASIS. >> I WOULD OVERSEE IT LIKE I DO ALL OF THE SELECTION COMMITTEES BUT IT WOULD BE THOSE FOR PEOPLE WHO WOULD HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS, I WOULD COME BACK AND GIVE YOU THE SCORES THAT THE COMMITTEE PROVIDED , THE COURT IS THEN FREE TO EITHER GO WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION OR GO WITH A DIFFERENT SELECTION. IN THAT WAY , I WON'T TRY TO PERSUADE YOU ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. THAT IS JUST THE WAY THAT IT WOULD GO, IF YOU SO CHOOSE. >> AS I RECALL, WHEN I USED TO WORK AT THE OLD COURTHOUSE BACK IN THE 70S THAT IS THE WAY THAT IT WAS DONE, WE WOULD GET A COMMITTEE AND THAT IS THE PEOPLE THAT DECIDED WHAT KIND OF ITEM WE WOULD GET. >> I WOULD ALSO SAY, ACED ON THE WAY THAT THE ITEM READS , I THINK IT IS REALLY BROAD AND I THINK THAT YOU , WHAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO, ENTER A MOTION IF YOU WANT TO GO THIS WAY, SPECIFIC TO THIS ONE PROJECT. THE COURT ALWAYS RETAIN THE RIGHT, WHENEVER THEY WISH, TO NOT DELEGATE THEIR SELECTION. >> IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION I'M FINE WITH THAT. >> I DID NOT KNOW WHO TO PUT ON THE COMMITTEE LAST TIME. I THINK WE JUST DECIDED TO TRY. IF YOU WANT TO DO IT DIFFERENTLY I DON'T CARE. >> I WOULD WANT TO ASK, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE BEST PRACTICE. WHAT DO OTHER COUNTIES DO. WHETHER , WHAT YOU OTHER ENTITIES IN OUR AREA DO. THERE IS A MIXTURE OF SOME SORT OF SKILL SET IN CERTAIN AREAS. SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT HAVE HR THAT SPECIALIZE, MAYBE IN INSURANCE. OR YOU HAVE CONSULTANTS, THAT IS THE WHOLE THING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO, GET AN ACTUAL EXPERT , NOT ON STAFF, BUT ON CONTRACTOR THAT CAN HELP US IN THE FUTURE WITH INSURANCE, EXPLORING OPTIONS. WE DO RELY ON THOSE EXPERTS. I DID NOT KNOW WHERE THIS WAS GOING, THERE WAS NOT BACKGROUND. YOU THROWING THIS TO ME RIGHT NOW, THIS EXPLANATION HELPS CALM BUT IT IS TOO QUICK FOR ME TO SAY YES OR NO. I THINK, IN CONCEPT WE WOULD ALL SAY WE WANT EXPERTS TO HELP GUIDE US. I DEFINITELY WOULD NOT WANT TO GIVE AWAY OUR OPPORTUNITY TO EVALUATE . IN THE END, I GET WHAT COMMISSIONER IS SAYING AS FAR AS , EVERY DAY WE ARE ASKED TO BE EXPERTS ON A VARIETY OF ITEMS , THIS AGENDA IS PACKED WITH ITEMS THAT WE RELY ON STAFF, SOME TYPE OF SCREENING AND SCORING TO HELP US. IN THE END WE STILL HAVE TO DECIDE, DO OUR HOMEWORK, BECOME EXPERTS, OR AT LEAST FAMILIAR WITH CERTAIN TOPICS IN CERTAIN AREAS. WE HAVE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS, THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE. I WOULD MUCH RATHER IT BE THE ELECTED BODY MAKING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND DECISIONS RATHER THAN LEAVE IT UP TO SOMEONE WHO IS STAFF DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY AS WE DO. THAT IS WHY, FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE, EVERY DECISION WE ARE VOTING ON, TODAY, EVERY DAY IN THE PAST, EVERY MEETING IN THE FUTURE, THAT IS HOW WE ARE BASED ON. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH STANDING ON WHERE WE HAVE DECIDED ON ISSUES. I GET A LOT OF THE COURT IS PROBABLY SAYING, WE WORRY ABOUT, CERTAIN AREAS WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH EXPERTISE ON WE TOOK STEPS TO [03:25:10] ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A NEW SET OF ITEMS AFTER 20+ YEARS WHEN MOST ENTITIES DO AT LEAST A RENEWAL PROCESS EVERY FEW YEARS. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT COULD HELP GUIDE US THROUGH THAT, BUT NOT GIVE AWAY OUR ABILITY TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS , WE HAVE PAIRED THAT BACK A LOT ALREADY. WE HAD TWO MEMBERS ON ALMOST EVERY COMMITTEE, EVERY ITEM THAT WE HAVE VOTED ON. IT SLOWLY GOT PAIRED BACK TO DEPARTMENT HEADS, I'M SURE THEY HAVE A LOT MORE KNOWLEDGE. THEY ARE THE ONES THAT I CALL WHEN I NEED HELP. IN THE END, THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE. WE ARE ELECTED TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. I WOULD JUST WANT TO SEE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE CONCRETE, RATHER THAN WHAT YOU HAVE. IF WE COULD JUST HOLD ONTO THE NEXT MEETING, UNTIL I CAN SEE WHAT YOU HAVE COME UP WITH. I WOULD NOT WANT TO JUST RUSH IN TO SAY YES OR NO. THAT IS MY MAIN CONCERN. >> I DON'T EVEN KNOW I GOT IT TODAY. I DON'T KNOW WHY I WAS GETTING IT OR WHAT WE WERE DOING. >> WHEN I SAW THAT AGENDA ITEM I WANTED TO PUT THAT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF YOU BECAUSE I HAD GIVEN YOU GUYS A DEADLINE TO MEET AND I DID NOT WANT YOU TO TURN THOSE INTO ME YET. AS LONG AS YOU STILL HAVE NOT SCORED AND YOU HAVE NOT HAD ANY PUBLIC DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PROPOSALS THEN WE STILL HAVE THIS ABILITY TO PIVOT IF THE COURT CHOOSES TO PIVOT. >> IF WE INDIVIDUALLY SCORED IT IS OKAY, WE JUST CANNOT TURN IT IN, RIGHT? >> IF SOMEONE HAS ALREADY STARTED IT MIGHT BE TOUGH TO PIVOT. >> WE SHOULD HAVE ALL STARTED. IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER CONTINUE ON OR PIVOT OVER TO HAVING THE SELECTION COMMITTEE DO THEIR SCORING AND RANKING. YOU STILL HAVE THE FINAL DECISION-MAKING ABILITY ON EVERY SELECTION COMMITTEE THAT WE GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COURT. IT IS ONLY A RECOMMENDATION. THE COURT ALWAYS HAS THE FINAL DAY AS TO WHO GETS ELECTED. >> IF WE TABLE THIS, IS THERE ANY HARM? WE JUST HOLD OFF UNTIL WE DO THAT. >> WE HAVE NOT HAD ONE IN A WHILE. I COULD WAIT AND PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA WHICH IS JUST THE ORDER DOCUMENT, DISPLAYING WITH THE TEAM WOULD BE. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE THINKS. >> TABLE IT UNTIL THE NEXT. >> YOU HAVE ALSO STATED, IF YOU GAVE IT TO ALL OF US, THAT THAT DID NOT MEAN THAT YOU ALL HAD TO TURN IT IN. YOU HAVE DONE IT PROPOSALS WHERE THERE ARE FOUR PEOPLE ON THERE AND ONLY TWO PEOPLE SHOW UP AND THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT SCORE, THAT GOES FORWARD WITH THE MEETING. IT IS NOT LIKE THERE IS A REQUIREMENT IF YOU RECEIVED IT THAT YOU HAVE TO SCORE IT OR TURN IT IN. >> CORRECT, EACH MEMBER IS NOT REQUIRED. IF YOU RETAIN THE SCORING PIECE, THE WHOLE COURT IS NOT REQUIRED TO SUBMIT SCORES , BUT WE NEED AT LEAST TWO. THIS WAY I COULD COMPILE A TOTAL NUMBER TO RECOMMEND. THOSE SCORES THAT DO GET TURNED IN WOULD MOST LIKELY HAVE TO BE READ ALOUD IN COURT. CONSIDER THAT AS WELL, FOR YOUR PERSONAL SCORES. >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL THE NOVEMBER 29TH MEETING? >> >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, I BELIEVE. ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES, THANK YOU. I'M VERY SORRY, I'M GOING TO SKIP, I BELIEVE, WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE HERE FOR THE SOLID WASTE COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL. I WILL BRING THAT BACK UP. WE WILL KEEP GOING. >> YOU STILL WANT ITEM NUMBER 19, THE REPORT PULLED INTO EXECUTIVE WITH THE OTHER? >> I HAVE TO ASK ON THAT ONE, WHAT IS THE EXECUTIVE. [03:30:05] >> I DON'T HAVE IT MEMORIZED, WHAT IS THAT ONE. >> I.T. SAFETY. >> SECURITY AND SAFETY. >> YES, WE ARTY HAVE THE NUMBER, YES. [1. Discuss and consider ratifying the acceptance of grant agreement with the Texas Department of Transportation for the Routine Airport Maintenance Program (RAMP) in the amount of $100,000 with a cash match of $11,111.11 (Dept. 0160 - County Airport).] >> OKAY. >> UNDER GRANTS, THANK YOU, I WAS LOOKING FOR YOU EVERYWHERE. THIS IS AN CONSIDER RATIFYING THE ACCEPTANCE OF GRANT AGREEMENTS WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE ROUTINE AIRPORT MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. THIS COMES INTO EFFECT ONCE ALL PARTIES HAVE APPROVED THIS. DEPARTMENT 0160 IS PAYING FOR THE CASH MATCH , THIS IS FULLY FUNDED. >> EVERY YEAR, WE GET THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS. IT HAS BEEN A 50-50 MATCH. THEY RECEIVED ADDITIONAL FUNDING, NOW WOULD 9010. WE ALWAYS PUT A BUDGET . >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY [3. Discuss and consider conditional selection for Solid Waste Collection & Disposal Service (Dumpsters) County Properties Only (IFB 3249-23).] OPPOSING. ARE YOU HERE FOR ONE? YES. IF YOU DON'T MIND I'M GOING TO SWITCH BACK TO C3. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CONDITIONAL SELECTION FOR SOLID WASTE COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL SERVICE DUMPSTERS, COUNTY PROPERTIES ONLY. >> OKAY JUDGE, TO REFRESH OUR MEMORY FROM LAST TIME. AT THAT TIME, THREE BIDS WERE RECEIVED. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP DURING THE BIDDING PROCESS, THERE WAS ONE OF THE BIDDERS THAT HAD NOT PROVIDED THE RANDOM NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO WITH THEIR BID RESPONSE FORM. >> I DON'T KNOW THE BIDDERS. >> I JUST SAID ONE OF THE BIDDERS. I WILL GET TO THAT IN JUST A SECOND. THE BITTER, IF YOU WILL TURN TO THE BID TABULATION PAGE , YOU CAN SEE, OUR CURRENT PROVIDER, CORPUS CHRISTI DISPOSAL IS LISTED WITH A LOW BID OF $5410 PER MONTH . THAT IS THE BIDDER THAT DID NOT PROVIDE ADDENDUM NUMBER ONE AND TWO. THE QUESTION WAS, WHETHER THE COUNTY PURCHASING AGENT MUST DISCARD ONES THAT DIDN'T HAVE CERTAIN ADDENDA. WHAT THEY HAVE HEARD IS NO. NOT REQUIRED BY STATUTE OR BY CONTRACT TO DISCARD THOSE THAT ARE MISSING , FAILURE TO SUBMIT THIS DOES NOT RENDER THIS NONRESPONSIVE. TO THAT END , ALL THREE BIDDERS ARE ELIGIBLE TO BE SELECTED BY THE COURT. THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO AWARD TO THE LOWEST BID FROM WASTE CONNECTIONS , THEY RECOMMENDED THAT APPROVAL . THE EXPENSE WOULD BE PAID BY THE USER DEPARTMENT BUDGETING FUNDS. >> THERE WERE SOME ALLEGATIONS ABOUT THIS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO PUBLIC WORKS TO SEE IF THEY CHECKED OUT THE USE VIOLATIONS, OSHA VIOLATIONS . THERE WAS, LAST MEETING THERE WAS OSHA VIOLATIONS, SOMETHING. CORRECTIONS TO ALL OF THESE , I BELIEVE THERE WAS A SPILL FROM A HYDRAULICALLY THAT HAS BEEN CLEANED UP. THE TRASH COMPACTOR'S , THE CONTRACTOR IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM ON SPECIFICS. >> DID WE CHECK ANY OTHER LOCATIONS? THIS IS ALL OF THE LOCATIONS , THEY HAVE BEEN CHECKED. >> AND THEN THIS MORNING THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE SAFETY SWITCH. >> I HAVE NOT HEARD ABOUT THAT ONE. >> THAT WAS BROUGHT UP THIS MORNING. >> IT HAS BEEN RESOLVED. IT WAS LEFT OFF, IT WAS NOT ON THERE, A SAFETY SWITCH, SOMETHING. >> IF YOU WANT TO COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE THAT IS PROBABLY BETTER, SORRY. [03:35:03] >> HELLO, I AM NINA STARKEY, I AM THE DISTRICT MANAGER. THIS MORNING I HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING OVER EMAIL, I APOLOGIZE, I HAVE VERY LITTLE DETAIL ABOUT THE SWITCH THIS MORNING BUT WE DID SEND OUT A CONTRACTOR TO GET THAT RESOLVED. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE SWITCH WAS NOT OPERATING FULLY, IT WAS STOPPING TOO SOON. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, ANYBODY, ANY COMMENTS? >> I HAVE TO ASK. IF SOMEONE ELSE HADN'T POINTED THESE OUT, HOW WOULD WE KNOW THAT WE HAD GOTTEN THEM FIXED. SOMEBODY ELSE HAD TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAD THESE PROBLEMS. WHAT MONITORING DO WE HAVE IN PLACE? >> WE GO THROUGH THESE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT PERIODICALLY AND LOOK FOR VIOLATIONS OR THINGS THAT ARE NOT PER CONTRACT. AT THIS POINT WE JUST DID NOT CATCH THOSE IN TIME. FOR THE MOST PART WE HAVE OUR MAINTENANCE GUYS GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT THESE , THEN AS WELL, AND HE REPORTS THAT COME IN FROM THE USERS, WHICH IS MAINLY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, MECHANICS, ON OCCASION WE DO USE IT. IF ANY ISSUES DO COME UP. WE CONTACTED THEM. >> HOW MANY LOCATIONS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THAT THIS COVERS? ARE HERE AND AT THE ANNEX. THERE ARE 18. THESE ARE THE ONLY TWO THAT ARE COMPACTORS. >> I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT AS SOON AS WE WERE MADE AWARE OF THIS. I DID LOOK INTO EVERY ITEM. THE THINGS THAT ARE A LEGEND OSHA VIOLATIONS ARE NOT RELATED TO THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE. THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE, THERE WAS SOME HYDRAULIC STAINING THAT WAS FROM A REPAIR YEARS AGO, WE DID CLEAN THAT, AND THEN THE LEAKAGE FROM THE CONTRACT -- COMPACTOR WAS GARBAGE JUICE. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS WAS A SALESPERSON FROM OUR COMPETITOR THAT DID THIS. WHOEVER REPORTS ANYTHING, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT BUT, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT THERE WERE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AS A HOLLER , BUT THE THINGS THAT WERE HOURS WE RESPONDED TO IMMEDIATELY AS SOON AS I WAS NOTIFIED. >> WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO TELL US, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER OSHA VIOLATIONS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE PENDING OR ANYTHING? >> I GUESS, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW LONG WE HAVE , HOW LONG WE HAVE HAD THIS CONTRACTOR. WHAT HAS BEEN YOUR EXPERIENCE. >> AS FAR AS MY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS THIS IS THE FIRST TIME. >> HOW LONG HAVE WE HAD THIS CONTRACT? >> AT LEAST FIVE YEARS. >> YOU SAID THAT IT IS PAID THROUGH BUDGETED FUNDS? >> PUBLIC WORKS. IS THIS, ARE THEY ALL WITHIN THE BUDGET? JUST THIS ONE? I DON'T KNOW. MONEY IS INSIDE THE BUDGET FOR WHATEVER DEPARTMENT HAVE HIM STIRS. IT IS COMING FROM THEIR BUILDING. THE DIFFERENT BUILDING FUNDS. BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION THAT IT IS IN. I WOULD ALSO INFORM THE COURT TOO THAT THIS IS A TWO-YEAR CONTRACT WITH THREE RENEWALS AVAILABLE. OVER THE FIVE-YEAR PERIOD THE COST FROM THIS WOULD BE 324,600 , THE NEXT LOW BIDDER WOULD BE $380,471.40 , THAT IS A DIFFERENCE OF $55,870 AND 41%. >> NO INFLATIONARY INCREASES, AND NOTHING LIKE THAT POINT >> HISTORICALLY THAT HAS BEEN TRUE. >> DO BOTH OF THESE AGENCIES, THEY BOTH HAVE CONTRACTS OR JUST ONE? THEY ARE BOTH CONTRACTED BY THE COUNTY? >> NOT FOR THE SAME SERVICE. >> BOTH COMPANIES WORK. >> THEY BOTH, I BELIEVE, GOOD RECORDS WITH THE COUNTY. >> WHAT DON'T YOU JUST DO AN [03:40:05] INSPECTION FOR THE OTHER ONE? >> SO WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION? >> KNOWING THIS, I SPOKE EARLIER, HE STILL STAND BY THE RECOMMENDATION TO RECOMMEND THE AWARD TO WASTE CONNECTIONS CC DISPOSAL SERVICE. THE AMOUNT OF $5410 MONTHLY. >> NO FURTHER ISSUES, RIGHT? SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO AWARD THE RECOMMENDATION OF PUBLIC WORKS TO WASTE CONNECTIONS CORPUS CHRISTIE DISPOSAL , ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR ? THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> NOW, GRANTS, GOING BACK ON [2. Discuss and consider accepting grant award from the Office of the Governor, Criminal Justice Division in the amount of $21,651.14 with a cash match of $20,348.14 (Dept. 1358-Electronic Monitoring Program) for the Monitoring Offenders Against Women Project.] US, SORRY. ITEM B2, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE GRANT AWARD FROM THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR , CRIMINAL JUSTICE DIVISION IN THE AMOUNT OF $21,651.14 WITH A CASH MATCH OF $20,340.14 , ELECTRONIC MONITORING PROGRAM PROJECTS. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> IS THIS A BUDGETED AMOUNT FOR THE CASH MATCH? THIS IS A NORMAL THING? >> YES. >> AS WE MOVE FORWARD I THINK THE COURT NEEDS TO HAVE A GENERAL DISCUSSION, THIS IS THE ONLY REASON I'M BRINGING IT UP. I THINK WE NEED TO DECIDE AS A COURT. YOU KNOW, IN THE SEMINARS THAT I HAVE GONE TO, SOME OF THESE COUNTIES, I DON'T MEAN TO MAKE EVERYBODY FREAK OUT, SOME OF THESE COUNTIES HAVE DONE AWAY WITH GRANT DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE GRANTS COME STRINGS, I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO AT LEAST HAVE SOME DISCUSSION AS TO WHAT KIND OF GRANTS DO WE REALLY WANT TO APPLY FOR. DO WE WANT TO APPLY FOR GRANTS THAT HAVE CASH MATCHES, IT IS GREAT TO GET DIFFERING STUFF, SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS THAT WE DO , AND THIS IS NOT AN EXAMPLE OF IT BUT THERE ARE SOME PROGRAMS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO AND WE ARE HAVING TO MATCH THINGS. AM OKAY WITH THIS ONE, BUT I THINK WE AT LEAST NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON WHERE WE WANT TO GO WITH GRANTS. THERE ARE ALWAYS STRINGS ATTACHED TO FEDERAL MONEY. THIS IS WHAT HAS BEEN GETTING TALKED ABOUT. THERE ARE ALWAYS STRINGS ATTACHED TO GRANTS. GRANTS ARE GREAT AND WE CANNOT SURVIVE WITHOUT GRANTS, BUT WHEN WE HAVE TO MATCH THEM A LOT. THE ONE THAT MAKES ME SUPER NERVOUS IS THE PUBLIC OFFENDER GRANT. THAT IS GOING TO COST US, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUND THAT, I REALLY DON'T. I SUPPORTED THAT, RIGHT? DISCLOSURE, I GET IT. IT SOUNDED LIKE A GREAT IDEAL -- IDEA BUT IT MAKES ME NERVOUS GOING DOWN THE ROAD. I THINK WE NEED TO PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA AT SOME POINT. >> I DON'T DISAGREE. I AGREE, WE NEED TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS AND GOING FOR GRANTS AND LOOK AT THE FINE PRINT. I DO KNOW ON A FEW, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE CAN GET OUT BEFORE IT GETS TO THE MATCHING PORTION OR THE LEVELING OFF. >> YES, JUST LIKE ALL OF THESE FOR THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR , THE APPLICATION PROCESS WILL BEGIN OPENING UP IN DECEMBER. WE WILL COME IN TO ASK FOR, CAN WE APPLY. WE NEED A RESOLUTION. WE COME IN FIRST AND ASK BEFORE WE APPLY. >> I'M SAYING, THAT'S ON ME. I NEED TO PAY MORE ATTENTION TOO. IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE APPLYING FOR A GRANT TO OFFSET SOMETHING THAT WE STATUTORILY HAVE TO DO, THAT'S A NO-BRAINER BECAUSE IT REDUCES OUR COST, IF IT IS FOR A NEW PROGRAM OR A NEW SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS GREAT AND FIND BUT WE HAVE TO MATCH IT, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT, I THINK WE OUGHT TO REALLY TAKE A PAUSE AND LOOK AT THOSE HARD. IT MIGHT SOUND GREAT THAT IT IS A 50-50 MATCH, BUT WE ARE STILL PAYING 50. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT ADDS UP TO, WHAT OUR MATCHES ARE. THAT WOULD BE A REALLY INTERESTING FIGURE TO KNOW WHAT OUR MATCHES ARE RIGHT NOW FOR GRANTS. >> WE HAVE BEEN VERY CAUTIOUS IN THE PAST YEAR, NO MATCH. NO CASH MATCH. >> I APPRECIATE THAT, YOU HAVE SAID IT BEFORE. ALL THE PAST [03:45:06] GRANTS THAT WE HAVE DONE, HOLY COW, I'M AFRAID OF THOSE. THANK YOU. >> WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND, DID WE VOTE ON THAT? I DID NOT THINK WE DID. SO DO YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A [3. Discuss and consider accepting grant award from the Texas Office of the Governor, Criminal Justice Division in the amount of $24,093.09 with a cash match in the amount of $8,031.03, split between the Sheriff Office Forfeiture fund ($6,501) and Constable Precinct 3 Forfeiture fund ($1,530), for the Nueces County Body-Worn Camera Program.] SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER THREE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING A GRANT AWARD FROM THE TEXAS OFFICE OF GOVERNOR CRIMINAL DISASTERS-- 24,000 WITH A CASH MATCH OF 8000 THAT WILL BE SPLIT BETWEEN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND CONSTABLE PRECINCT FUNDS , THIS IS FOR THEIR CAMERA PROGRAM AND THEIR STUFF. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? [1. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving Amendment No. 4 to the Agreement with Aramark Correctional Services, LLC for the Jail Food Management Program for Nueces County Jails (RFP No. 3138-20).] ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO PURCHASING , DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR TO THE AGREEMENT FOR THE JAIL FOOD MANAGEMENT. GO AHEAD. >> THIS IS THE RENEWAL THAT IS AVAILABLE ALL OF THE PROVISIONS SHALL REMAIN THE SAME AUTHORIZE AND APPROVE THIS. WE HAVE THE 1295 CERTIFICATE THESE ARE PAID FOR BY THE BUDGETED FUNDS >> I WILL SECOND THAT. >> I THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> THIS IS THE FOOD PROGRAM. >> SORRY. >> SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ? ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN, THE MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER [1. Approve asset forfeiture report for FY 2023 for Nueces County Constable Precinct 1, Constable Precinct 2, Constable Precinct 3, Constable Precinct 4, Constable Precinct 5, Sheriff's Office and the District Attorney's Office.] FOUR. I'M PULLING INTO EXECUTIVE , MOVING ONTO THE AUDITOR, D1. >> YES, AS REQUIRED , THIS REQUIRES THAT ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE THOSE REQUIREMENTS , THEY MUST FILE A REPORT WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL EVERY YEAR. THESE REPORTS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY MY OFFICE, REVIEWED BY THE CONSTABLES IN QUESTION. THESE MATCH THE REQUIREMENTS , WE ARE SUBMITTING THESE FOR YOUR APPROVAL AS REQUIRED. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO [2. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving Change Order No. 3, for a no-cost time extension for the Alight implementation of Workday budget report writing functionality, referred to as "Adaptive" for Nueces County Auditor's Office.] APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES. >> A LIGHT SOFTWARE SOLUTION. A NO COST, TIME ONLY EXTENSION. CHANGING NUMBER THREE. REPORTING REQUIREMENTS. >> I WILL SECOND THAT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THE [3. Discuss and consider authorizing and approving an Amendment to the Agreement with Tyler Technologies for ExecuTime Time and Attendance software contract to allow the County to terminate the agreement, at any time for convenience, upon 30-day advance written notice and be entitled to pro rata refund for the amount of the annual services not provided; authorize annual payment in the amount of $37,432.96 for January 1, 2024 to December 31, 2024 for County Auditor’s Department; and related matters.] MOTION PASSES. WE ARE MOVING TO WORKDAY. WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN OLDER SOFTWARE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. THIS ONE, WE WORK WITH OUR ATTORNEYS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A 30 DAY ADVANCED WRITTEN NOTICE FOR ANY OF THE SOLUTIONS. WE HAVE WORKED WITH THEM VERY WELL. WE STILL HAVE TO RENEW THE CONTRACT WITH THEM , ONCE , WE WORK WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ON THIS. >> THEY WANTED US TO DO THE YEAR CONTRACT, WE WILL ONLY USE THOSE FOR A WHILE. >> MAY BE A MONTH OR TWO. IT WON'T BE VERY LONG, YES. >> THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, YOU ARE GOOD WITH THIS, THE WORDING. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS. [4. Approve Capital Budget Change Order No. 127.] >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. >> PRODUCT CHANGE NUMBER 127. [03:50:04] WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM , AS WE ARE GOING TO WORKDAY. TRYING TO GET SOME BALANCE . WE ARE TRYING SOME COMPLETIONS ON SOME OF THE FUNDS. SOME OF THESE WILL BE MOVED BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT , WE HAVE ADDED A FEW SMALL ITEMS , FOR EXAMPLE ON THE VERY FIRST ONE, 1915. THE ROOF REPLACEMENT. WE HAD TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WE HAVE. GETTING TOWARDS THE BOTTOM THE SCREEN, WE SEE WHERE THERE WAS $100,000 MOVED BACK TO PRECINCT 4. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH TERESA ON ALL OF THEM. IT IS ON PAGE 2. YOU SEE 19:25. A LOT OF THE FUNDS, A LOT OF THE COUNTY ROADS HAVE BEEN, THESE ARE BEING COMPLETED. THOSE REMAIN LISTED. WE MOVE THOSE BACK TO UNALLOCATED FUNDS FOR YOU TO USE HOW YOU SEE FIT. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY WELL ON THIS. WE BELIEVE THAT THE NUMBERS ARE ADEQUATE. WE HAVE MET THE REQUIREMENTS, WE SUBMIT THIS FOR YOUR APPROVAL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM. >> IT IS PRETTY SIMPLE. MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES . THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER FIVE. ARE WE GOING TO PULL THIS? >> THERE ARE SOME ITEMS, WE WOULD LIKE TO TALK IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE WANTED TO NOT DISCLOSE AS MANY ITEMS ON THERE. THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR FRAUD . WHEN WE REVIEW THIS, IT IS A LOT OF EXTRA WORK. MY STAFF COULD DO THIS. THE AMOUNT OF TIME REQUIRED WOULD BE 5 TO 7 MONTHS. WE ARE REQUESTING, POSSIBLY, REQUESTING THE COURT TO HIRE ON THIS MATTER. WE HAVE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THEM. THEY HAVE NOT GIVEN A SUPPORT ON THIS YET BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING THIS INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION TO EXPLAIN WHY. >> EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY? >> YES. [3. Discuss and consider approval of the HireRight Agreement to provide background check services.] >> ONE ITEM , THE AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE BACKGROUND CHECK SERVICES , ARE WE READY? I KNOW WE HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH THAT CONTRACT FOR A LONG TIME. >> YES, THAT SHOULD BE GOOD TO GO. THE ONE THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED PULLING BACK. THIS IS GOOD TO GO TO VOTE ON? >> DID WE PASS THAT BEFORE WITH JUST WAITING FOR APPROVAL, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TO DO ANYTHING. OKAY, DO I HAVE IT? WHO HAS THE CONTRACT? WE HAVE IT, OKAY. THANK YOU. WE ARE GOOD. NO ACTION NECESSARY. WE HAVE ALREADY VOTED TO APPROVE IT. NOW, UNLESS I MISSED SOMETHING, BECAUSE WE HAVE HOPPED AROUND A LITTLE BIT, CHECK YOUR ITEMS. >> THAT IS ON THE NEXT ONE. THE NOVEMBER 29TH. PLATTING, THAT IS ON NOVEMBER 29TH, THAT'S NOT ON HERE. THE 29TH. >> DID YOU VOTE ON BOTH DOING PERMITS? I WILL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. >> SHE SAID THAT THEY HAD POSTED FOR THE POSITION. OKAY. WE PROBABLY NEED TO BRING THAT [4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.] BACK UP NEXT TIME. OKAY, THEN IT LOOKS LIKE I'M READY TO MOVE TO EXECUTIVE , WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. THEY MAY ELECT TO GO INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS ANY , CHAPTER 551, TO THE EXTENT THERE HAS BEEN A PAST PRACTICE OF DISTINGUISHING ITEMS FOR PUBLIC DELIBERATION, [03:55:02] THE PUBLIC IS ADVISED THAT THE COURT IS DEPARTING FROM THAT PRACTICE AND RESERVES THE RIGHT TO DISCUSS ANY LISTED AGENDA ITEMS IN SECOND SESSION. IN THE EVENT THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT ELECTS TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION THE SECTION OR SECTIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT AUTHORIZING THIS WILL BE PUBLIC BE ANNOUNCED BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY SECTIONS 551. 071 THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL HOLD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH ATTORNEYS INCLUDING MATTERS REGAIN A WHICH IS RELATED TO LITIGATION, PERSONNEL MATTERS INCLUDING TERMINATION, COUNTY ADVISORY BODY, SECURITY DEVICES AND/OR ECONOMIC OF ELEMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND OTHER MATTERS THAT MIGHT BE DISCUSSED IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. UPON COMPLETION OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY, IN AN OPEN SESSION, TAKE SUCH ACTION AS APPROPRIATE ON ITEMS DISCUSSED IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. CONSULT, RELATED TO CAUSE NUMBER 219 , DIANA BOND . THE U.S. SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS CORPUS CHRISTI AND RELATED MATTERS. DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND TAKE ACTION ON THE SAME. ITEM B, CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING HER EMPLOYMENT CLAIM. DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND TAKE ACTION ON THE SAME. ITEM C, CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING THE POSSIBILITY OF ANY COUNTER OFFER WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY , DISCUSS 551.071, DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND TAKE ACTION ON THE SAME IN OPEN SESSION. ITEM D, CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING LEGAL MATTERS WOULD-- RELATED TO HEALTH SERVICES AND RELATED MATTERS. DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND TAKE ACTION. ITEM E, OPERATED , PUBLIC HEALTH DISTRICT AND RELATED MATTERS. DISCUSS, CONSIDER TAKE ACTION ON THE SAME AN OPEN ITEM F. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, EVALUATION OR DISMISSAL OF THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT HEAD PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.07 FOUR OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE , DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON THE SAME. ITEM THREE A 19. RECEIVE A REPORT FROM INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT HEAD REGARDING THE DOMAIN NAME CHANGE FROM THIS AND RELATED MATTERS. TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.089 FOR I.T. SAFETY. ITEM C FOR , DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO TO THE AGREEMENT WITH CORRECTIONAL HEALTH SERVICES. THIS IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT TOO. >> NO, YOU READ IT IN THE OTHERS, RIGHT? >> I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE IT LISTED HERE. I DON'T NEED TO DO IT TWICE. ITEM D5. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER COUNTY AUDITORS REQUEST FOR RELATED MATTERS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071. IT IS 3:29, WE WILL B A. WE HAVE MOTION. >> MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE PLAINTIFF . [04:00:03] WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE . >> ANY OPPOSED, THE MOTION PASSES. ITEM D, CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING THE LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO THE POST SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH ARMOUR CORRECTIONAL. >> YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ONE? >> I BELIEVE THE MOTION WAS TO ASK MR. ROBINSON TO PROCEED WITH AN RFQ OR RFP WITH REGARDS TO A NEW JAIL SERVICES CONTRACT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE >> ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. ITEM F , DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> MOVED TO DIRECT THE COUNTY AUDITOR FOR AUDIT SERVICES. >> TO HIRE, YOU ARE RIGHT ON THAT ONE. D% AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO RESTRUCTURE SOCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT PROCUREMENT IMMEDIATELY. >> WE HAVE A MOTION. >> CAN YOU REPEAT, I'M SORRY. >> MOTION TO DIRECT COUNTY AUDITOR TO HIRE COLLIER, JOHNSON, AND WOULD FOR AUDIT SERVICES. RESTRUCTURE SOCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT PROCEDURES IMMEDIATELY. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. I THINK WE HAD A MOTION ON ITEM F, DID WE GET THE LANGUAGE? >> A MOTION TO SUSPEND I.T. DIRECTOR WITHOUT PAY FOR FIVE DAYS , BEGINNING ON 1116, 2023. 7.02, SUBSECTION B AND 7.02, SUBSECTION A . >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES. WE WANT TO GO BACK. >> THAT WHEN IS NO ACTION. LET'S GO BACK TO THE VERY BEGINNING. >> 3A2 ON THE HEALTH SYSTEM CORPORATION WITH THE EMERGENCY MEDICINE . COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE THAT MOTION. >> THANK YOU JUDGE, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT THE CONCEPT OF A MUCH LONGER-TERM DEAL OR ANY TRANSITION OF THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL REGIMENS THE PROGRAM -- RESIDENCY PROGRAM . SECOND. THE MAC REALLY QUICK, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU ALL WANT TO SAY ANYTHING BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS, I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG DAY AND WE APPRECIATE YOU STICKING AROUND. IF EVERYBODY IS GOOD, WE ARE GOOD, I'M SORRY, THANK YOU, JUDGE. SINCE WE MADE THE MOTION >> IF YOU WILL ARTICULATE THE DESIRE OF THE COURT THE DOCTORS ARE HERE >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THE MOTION PASSES. I THINK THAT IS OUR AGENDA, DO WE HAVE ANY ADJOURNMENTS? >> WE DO NOT. >> YOU DO? YOU DON'T, OKAY. I GUESS WE DON'T, I WOULD ACCEPT A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. MOTION, I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR [04:05:03] SAY AYE. >> AYE . >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, AGAIN, YOU HAVE HAD A LONG DAY, HAVEN'T YOU? * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.