[1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:06] >>JUDGE CANALES: WE ARE READY TO GET STARTED SO WE WILL GAVEL IN. WE WILL CALL FOR INVOCATION AND ASK EVERYBODY TO RISE. PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE TEXAS FLAG AFTER INVOCATION. AND I WILL ASK COMMISSIONER MAREZ, WILL YOU LEAD US IN INVOCATION TODAY? >>COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: DEAR HEAVENLY GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR TODAY. THANK YOU FOR THE RAIN YOU PROVIDED OUR COMMUNITY. WE THANK YOU, LORD, FOR THE CHANGE IN WEATHER AS IT IS GETTING MORE TOLERABLE. THANK YOU TO THE SERVICE OF THE PEOPLE OF NUECES COUNTY FOR THE WORK THAT IS DONE ON THEIR BEHALF. WE THANK YOU, BOARD, FOR THIS COURT AND FOR THIS COURT AND ADMINISTRATORS AND ATTORNEYS THAT GUIDE US EACH WEEK TO DO THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE THAT YOU CALLED EACH OF US TO SERVE. WE PRAY TODAY THAT YOU GUIDE US WITH YOUR WISDOM, YOUR DISCERNMENT TO BE ABLE TO FIND AREAS WHERE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND ADVOCATE FOR OUR BELIEFS THAT WE HOLD STEADFAST. WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES YOU ALLOW US TO SHARE AND CHERISH AND THRIVE IN THE COMMUNITY. WE PRAY FOR BLESSINGS UPON EACH OF THEM. IN YOUR HOLY NAME WE PRAY, AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE OF THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE. TODAY IS NOVEMBER 2, 2022. I NOTED THE TIME FOR THE CLERK. OUR LOCATION 901 NORTH LEOPARD NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE ON THE THIRD FLOOR. WE ARE STATIONED AT THE NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT COURT ROOM. I CERTIFY THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT WITH US HERE AND AS A PRESIDING OFFICER I CAN DETERMINE THAT A QUORUM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED. AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS OF DISCLOSURES OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. THESE ARE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST OR APPEARANCE OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND SHALL BE DECLARED AT THIS TIME. MEMBERS WITH CONFLICT WILL REFRAIN FROM VOTING AND REFRAIN FROM COMMENTING ON SUCH ITEMS. CONFLICTS LATER IN THE MEETING WILL BE DISCLOSED AT THAT TIME. ARE THERE ANY? JENNY, THERE IS ALWAYS A FORM THAT I HAVE SEEN USED IN OTHER POLITICAL BODIES. MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST HAVE THEM HANDY JUST IN CASE THAT EVER HAPPENS, THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO STOP TO WAIT FOR IT. FOR FUTURE. [E. SAFETY BRIEFING] I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY TODAY. WE MOVE STRAIGHT TO TIMOTHY FOR OUR SAFETY BRIEFING. IF YOU GIVE HIM YOUR ATTENTION. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS. WE ARE MEETING ON THE THIRD FLOOR OF THE NUECES COUNTY COURT HOUSE. THOSE NEW TO THE COURT ROOM, THE REST ROOMS ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE THIRD-FLOOR ATRIUM PAST THE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE. PLEASE NOTE A FIRE EXTINGUISHER AT THE REAR. COURT ROOM AND FIVE FIRE EXTINGUISHERS. IN THE EVENT OF AN CARDIAC EMERGENCY, A ATRIAL DEFIBRILLATOR LOCATED TO THE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE. PARTICIPANT RESPONSIBLE FOR CALLING 911 WILL BE CONNIE. IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY, DOWN THE STAIRS AND EXITING THE IN L EPANS STREET EVIDENCE. IF A NEED TO SHELTER IN PLACE, COURT ATTENDEES WILL REMAIN IN THE COURT ROOM AND DOUBLE DOORS WILL BE SECURED AND REMAIN SECURED UNTIL FURTHER INSTRUCTION FROM THE NUECES SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. OUR SHERIFF SAFETY TOPICS REMIND THE COURT THAT THIS SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 6, DAYLIGHT SAVING TIMES ENDS. THAT INCLUDES MY SAFETY BRIEF. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE THANK YOU FOR THAT SAFETY BRIEF. [F. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.] AND I WOULD ASK NOW, DEPUTY, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WAITING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. SO NOBODY SIGNED UP TODAY. WE -- WE JUST WANT TO ASK MAGEE -- JJ MIGHT HAVE COME OVER. HE IS NOT ABLE TO? LET ME DO THIS FOWL JJ. TWO POSTERS FROM OUR VETERAN SERVICES OFFICER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. ONE FOR THE VOLUNTEER CORP AND THIS IS TAKING PLACE TODAY AT THE FAIRGROUNDS. I SAY THIS IS TAKING PLACE. ONE OF THEIR VOLUNTEER CORP ACTIVITIES ARE TAKING PLACE AT THE FAIRGROUNDS. IF YOU WERE IDEA IN PARTICIPATING, THE VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER SAY WE NEED YOUR HELP. [00:05:03] SEVERAL EVENTS, OUTREACH, VISITING ELDERLY RESIDENTS AT ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY AND SO MUCH MORE. COMMISSIONERS, YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A PICTURE OF THIS AND USE YOUR OWN MESSAGE OF PUBLIC MESSAGING. THERE ARE PHONE NUMBERS AND E-MAILS TO SIGN UP. AND THEN, OF COURSE, IF YOU WERE INTERESTED IN BEING PART OF THE VOLUNTEER CORP TODAY AT RICHARD BORCHARD FAIRGROUNDS SETTING UP FOR THIS NEXT POSTER. THE FIELD OF HONOR. TAKES PLACE VETERANS DAY AT 4 P.M. AT THE RICHARD BORCHARD FAIRGROUNDS. FLAGS WITH BE PURCHASED TO HONOR A VETERAN FOR $50. HALF THE DOLLARS GOES TO VETERAN ORGANIZATIONS. AN AMAZING PROJECT. WE WILL HAVE 1,000 FLAGS DISPLAYED OVER TWO AND A HALF WEEKS WITH A SPECIAL CEREMONY AS I SAID ON VETERANS DAY. FOR MORE INFORMATION, THE PARTICULAR WEB SITE IS EVENTS@MILITARYVIP.ORG. OF COURSE, AGAIN, THIS IS A VETERAN OF ANY ERA. ANY ERA, WHETHER LIVING OR DECEASED CAN BE HONORED. I HOPE THAT, AGAIN, I AM GOING TO LEAVE THESE POSTERS HERE THAT YOU WILL TAKE THE TIME TO TAKE A PHOTO. AND BEGIN YOUR MESSAGING. THIS WILL BE A BEAUTIFUL VETERANS EVENT. THANK YOU TO OUR VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER. I THINK I HAVE DONE THAT RIGHT. AS FAR AS IN THE CAMERA. AND MAGEE, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHEN THE VOLUNTEERCORPS STARTS TODAY? IF YOU DON'T MIND, IF YOU CAN [G. Accept the following Minutes:] GET IT AND LOOK AT THE CALENDAR TO BE ACCURATE TO THE TIME FRAME. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ACCEPT THE FOLLOWING MINUTES OF OCTOBER 12 AND OCTOBER 192022. TWO SETS OF MOTION. . >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I WANT TO TABLE THE ITEM. WE JUST GOT THE MINUTES THIS MORNING. . >>JUDGE CANALES: FOR BOTH OR JUST ONE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: BOTH. >>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION TO TABLE SINCE YOU HAD NOT HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW. A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR TABLE. THERE IS NO URGENCY, RIGHT, FROM YOUR PART? IT CAN WAIT? ARE YOU TABLING TO THE NOVEMBER 16 MEETING. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YES, MA'AM. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE TABLE LET THE RECORD REFLECT UNTIL NOVEMBER 16. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. ON THE NEXT PIECE -- GIVE ME A SECOND TO PUT THESE POSTERS [2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.] BEHIND ME. ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEMS A-J ARE CALLED AT THIS TIME. AND I WILL ASK THAT A MOTION BE HAD OR IF ANY NEED TO -- IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THIS WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I HAVE A QUESTION ON I. >>JUDGE CANALES: I, I GOT IT. ANYBODY ELSE. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: J. >>JUDGE CANALES: ANYBODY ELSE? MOTION FOR CONSENT AGENDA A-H, PLEASE, FOR APPROVAL. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: SO MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN. LET'S TACKLE ITEM J -- I AM SORRY I, THAT IS YOUR COMMISSIONER CHESNEY FOR DALE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I NEED EXPLANATION WHAT THIS IS. I READ THE COURT'S DRAGON SECURITY SOFTWARE. [J. Approve tax resale properties for sale at online auction.] I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE SOFTWARE AND WHAT IT IS. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU WANT FOR ME TO CALL DARYL. CAN I SKIP TO J AND LET DARYL ANSWER YOUR SOFTWARE QUESTION. MARVIN, WELCOME. WE GOT SOME TAX RESALE PROPERTIES FOR SALE AT OUR ONLINE ACTION AND COMMISSIONER MAREZ HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: GOOD MORNING. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. I HAVEN'T SEEN NEW A WHILE. SO WHAT IS THIS CHANGE. I SAW THAT THE PROPERTY IS STRUCK OFF WHEN NOBODY IS WILLING TO BID THE MINIMUM. AN AUCTION LINGO OR THE RESERVE. PRICE YOU HAVE TO HIT. IF NOT IT GOES BACK. >> THE TAX SALES SAY AS MINIMUM OPENING BID FOR EACH PROPERTY AND AGGREGATE OF PROPERTY AND COURT COSTS OR THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY WHATEVER IS LESS. THAT IS WHAT IT OPENS -- I TRIED THAT AND IT DIDN'T WORK VERY WELL. HERE WE GO. IF NOBODY IS WILLING TO MAKE THE BID THE PROPERTY IS STRUCK OFF, TAKEN BACK, AND THE DEED FOLLOWED IN THE NAME OF THE COUNTY AS A TRUSTEE. YOU SEE ME A LOT OF TIME WITH INDIVIDUAL WRITTEN OFFICERS TO BUY THESE PROPERTIES. WHAT WE ARE DOING THE PROPERTY TAX CODE ALLOW TAXING UNITS TO SELL THESE AT PUBLIC AUCTION. [00:10:02] AND THESE ARE PROPERTY -- WE BROUGHT FORWARD ALL THE OFFERS THAT WE HAD COMING IN. AND NOW WE ARE DOWN TO MAINLY VACANT LOTS. A LOT OF THEM ARE NOT BUILDABLE, AND WE ARE JUST TRYING TO USE A MORE EXPEDITIOUS WAY THROUGH THE ONLINE AUCTION PROCESS TO CLEAR THESE OUT. THE COURT APPROVED AN AUCTION LAST MONTH, WHICH TOOK PLACE YESTERDAY ON NOVEMBER 1 AFTER OUR TAX SALE. YOU APPROVED 42 PROPERTIES AT THAT AUCTION AND WE SOLD 25. AND GROSSED ABOUT $378,000. SO THIS IS JUST A WAY TO GET THESE PROPERTIES BACK ON THE TAX ROLL IN A MORE EXPEDITIOUS MANNER, GET A BETTER PRICE FOR THEM BY OPENING UP THE BIDDING TO A WIDER OFFICE ON THE ONLINE AUCTION SYSTEM. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: THE NUMBER THAT GRABBED ME THAT SHOW WITH DOING THIS WE CAN RESTORE AS MUCH AS HALF A MILLION DOLLAR ON THE TAX ROLL, THAT'S CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. YOU CAN GET YOUR PROPERTIES BACK TO PRODUCING REVENUE AGAIN AND ALSO WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE THE CITY OR THE COUNTY TO MAINTAIN THEM OR BOARD UP AN OLD HOUSE BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS BROKEN INTO IT. THINGS LIKE THAT. WE ARE DOWN TO THE ONES THAT ARE BASICALLY NUISANCE PROPERTIES. WE HAVE GOT -- WE SOLD 25 YESTERDAY. THAT GETS US DOWN TO A TOTAL OF ABOUT 100 LEFT AND KEEP PUTTING THEM BACK TO YOU. WE WILL GET IT DONE BY MARCH AND APRIL. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: THAT IS GREAT. A LOT OF TIME WHEN YOU PUT IT BEFORE US. A LOT IN PRECINCT 3 IN THE ROBSTOWN AREA. I HAVE SEEN AND HEARD A LOT OF STORIES AND ACCOUNTS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY APPRECIATIVE THAT THESE PROPERTIES ARE BACK ON THE ROLLS, BECAUSE RESPONSIBLE PROPERTY OWNER WHO ARE BUYING THEM AND FIXING THEM UP OR AT LEAST MAINTAINING THEM. APPEAR THE LEAST THEY ARE GETTING THAT AND AT THE MOST VIABLE STRUCTURES ON THEM THAT CAN BE ASSESSED FOR A TAX RATE. >> WE SOLD ONE YESTERDAY FOR $80,000. AS LOW AS 3,000. SOME OF THEM DREW A LOT OF COMPETITIVE BIDS AND SOME DREW THE OPENING BID. THE MAIN THING IS TO GET THEM BACK ON THE TAX ROLLS. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: THANK YOU. JUDGE, MOTION TO APPROVE. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, THANK YOU. A MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. [I. Authorize Omni Partners Cooperative Contract #4400006644 purchase with Insight Public Sector for renewal of annual Crowdstrike endpoint security software.] OPPOSED SAME SIGN. DARYL, WELCOME. ITEM I REGARDING THE OMNI PARTNERS COOPERATIVE CONTRACT. IT'S REGARDING THE RENEWAL OF AN ANNUAL STRIKE END POINT SECURITY SOFTWARE. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY WANTED MORE BACKGROUND. PROVIDE THAT FOR THE COURT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHAT IT DOES, DARYL. >> END POINT SECURITY ON COMPUTERS, SERVERS IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS IS ONE WE DID LAST YEAR. THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE GOT RID OF MCCAFFEY AND A CISCO PRODUCT. USE TWO PRODUCTS PREVIOUSLY THAT WEREN'T ANYWHERE NEAR AS EFFECTIVE. THIS IS VERY MODERN STUFF. THIS IS ONE OF THE BIG PLAYERS. THE ACTUAL COST WENT UP -- IT WAS $68,000 AND SOME CHANGE LAST YEAR. IT WENT UP TO $73,000 AND SOME CHANGE THIS YEAR. BUT WE ADDED ON THIS SPOTLIGHT COMPONENT TO IT BECAUSE IT IS WHERE THEY ACTUALLY MONITOR ALL THE ACTIVITY TAKING PLACE AT THE END POINT AND THEY ARE COLLECTING THAT AND THE SECURITY CENTER GIVES US VISIBILITY AND THEY CAN SEND US RECOMMENDATIONS TO LET US KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. WHAT WE ARE DOING IS ADJUSTING TO OUR -- OUR POSTURES A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT NOW IN THAT WE ARE -- WE ARE ADDING THIS AND GETTING RID OF OTHER THINGS THE WAY WE DO IT WITH MONITORING. AND A LOT OF THE SERVICES FOR ASSESSING OUR NETWORK ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO START BEING FREE. AND SO WE ARE NO LONGER GOING TO BE PAYING THOSE COSTS. WE ARE ADJUSTING THE BUDGET TO ITEMS LIKE THIS TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE AT END POINTS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT IS ALL I NEEDED, JUDGE. MOTION TO APPROVE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHAT DEPARTMENT 1240? >> I AM SORRY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHAT IS THE DEPARTMENT 1240? >> THE I.T.'S MAIN BUDGET CATEGORY, YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL SECOND. AND JUST -- IT IS NOT REALLY A QUESTION ON THIS PARTICULAR, BUT IT IS RELATED. SO YOU STILL WANT US TO -- WHEN WE SEE SOMETHING STRANGE OR SUSPICIOUS ON AN E-MAIL, WE ARE STILL SUPPOSED TO FORWARD IT TO THAT SPAM CHECK, IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, MA'AM, YES. ALWAYS THE MAJORITY OF YOUR CYBERSECURITY ATTACKS HAPPEN WITHIN. >>JUDGE CANALES: WITHIN YOUR OWN SYSTEM OR E-MAIL OUTLOOK. ALL RIGHT. [00:15:03] IF NO OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR DARYL, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. [1. Discuss and consider whether, pursuant to Texas Government Code, 551.0725, deliberation in an open meeting would have a detrimental effect on the position of the commissioners court in negotiations with Tesla regarding the terms of the Tesla Tax Abatement Agreement, and related matters.] ALL RIGHT, DAFRL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOVING ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM. I WONDERED, JENNY, IF YOU WILL TAKE THE LEAD ON THIS ONE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PURR SIEBT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.0725 DELIBERATION IN A OPEN MEETING WOULD HAVE A DETRIMENT EFFECT OF THE POSITION OF COMMISSIONERS COURT IN NEGOTIATION WITH TESLA REGARDING THE TERMS OF THE TESLA TAX ABATEMENT AGREEMENT. THIS IS DIRECTLY OUT OF THE STATUTE AND ONCE A DETERMINATION IS MADE WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE THE ABATEMENT DISCUSSIONS WHEN AND IF THEY BECOME NECESSARY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHAT NUMBER IS THAT? >>JUDGE CANALES: 3-A-1. >> BEFORE YOU CAN TAKE CONTRACT NEGOTIATION THAT ARE NOT LEGAL QUESTIONS INTO EXECUTIVE, IF YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN EXECUTIVE. YOU NEED TO VOTE. IF YOU HAVE A 5-0 VOTE THAT IT IS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO HAVE IN EXECUTIVE, THAN I HAVE PREPARED, IF IT BECOMES NECESSARY, FIND FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY THAT I AGREE THAT IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE COUNTY AND POSSIBLY DETRIMENTAL TO COUNTY TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION HERE IN OPEN. THEN IT CAN BE TAKEN INTO EXECUTIVE AND WE ARE ALREADY RECORDING EXECUTIVE, SO THAT PART IS ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF. >>JUDGE CANALES: SO YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THEN A MOTION AT THIS POINT. >> YES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I JUST HAVE QUESTIONS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I HAVE A QUESTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: WELL THE MOTION THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IS -- WOULD BE WORDED THAT PURSUANT TO THE GOVERNMENT CODE THAT WE WOULD HAVE ABATEMENT NEGOTIATIONS REGARDING TESLA TAX ABATEMENT. >> TO HAVE IT IN OPEN WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE COUNTY'S POSITION IN NEGOTIATING. >>JUDGE CANALES: IN NEGOTIATING, OKAY. SO IT IS LIKE PLAYING POKER AND SHOWING THEM YOUR CARDS IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. >> YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: CAN WE GET A MOTION AND CALL ON DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS IN A SECOND. UNLESS THERE IS A QUESTION ON THE MOTION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WANT TO DO YET. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION, I AM NOT WILLING TO DO IT YET. I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT -- BUT I -- HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: WELL, ARE YOU ASKING TO TABLE IT? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU KNOW, BEFORE -- AND TO DO THE ABATEMENTS. WE HAVE DONE IT IN OPEN COURT. PEOPLE COME BEFORE US AND ASK FOR AN ABATEMENT. >> THIS IS ONLY TO DISCUSS, FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT THE COUNTY WANTS TO ASK FOR. THERE IS AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST, BUT IF YOU WANT TO ASK FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR ADDITIONAL AND NOT SAY THAT IN OPEN COURT YET, THEN YOU CAN DISCUSS THAT. IF THERE IS NOTHING TO DISCUSS, THEN THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE IDEA IS THEY WILL HAVE A REQUEST MADE TO US. AND WHETHER OR NOT WE COUNTER IS THE ABILITY TO DISCUSS THAT WITH OUR LAWYERS, RIGHT. FOR EXAMPLE -- >> OR WHICH EACH OTHER. BECAUSE IT IS NOT UNDER THE. >>JUDGE CANALES: IN THIS CASE WE HAVE A LAWYER THAT SPECIALIZES IN ABATEMENTS AND WHETHER THE LANGUAGE WE ARE TRYING TO SAY -- NOT THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL TAKE PLACE AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF US TO ENGAGE WITH RESIDENTS WILL ALSO TAKE PLACE. THIS IS REALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LEGAL, I GUESS PIECES OF IT -- >> IF IT WAS SIMPLY CONFERRING WITH THE ATTORNEY, YOU DON'T NEED THIS FINDING. THIS IS ABOUT CONTRACTUAL NEGOTIATIONS, NOT LEGAL. THIS IS THE BUSINESS DECISION CONVERSATION. >>JUDGE CANALES: I SEE. OKAY. SO -- BUT IT'S YOUR OPINION THAT THESE BUSINESS NEGOTIATIONS ARE BEST HAD WITH YOUR LAWYER? >> WELL, YOU HAVE A RESOURCE THERE, SURE. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET TO IT? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YEAH, I -- SO -- I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT -- THEY HAVE ALREADY MADE A REQUEST. AND WE JUST HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, RESPOND TO THAT REQUEST. AND I GET THIS IS ABOUT HOW DO WE BEST RESPOND, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE CAN ASK THE LEGAL QUESTIONS, WHICH WE CAN, I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE -- I AM JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE DETRIMENT WOULD BE ON THIS. BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY PUBLIC DEAL AND EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT IT. AND WE HAVE GOTTEN THE REQUEST FROM THEM. I DON'T -- I AM JUST TRYING TO [00:20:05] FIGURE OUT WHERE THE DETRIMENT WILL BE. THAT IS MY QUESTION. SOMEONE NEEDS TO EXPLAIN. BECAUSE -- AT THE END -- >> IF YOU DON'T FEEL THERE IS A DETRIMENT. THIS IS ONLY A VEHICLE FOR HAVING A CONVERSATION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM ASKING IF. >>JUDGE CANALES: IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY, CAN WE DO THIS WHEN WE ARE READY TO DISCUSS THIS? >> ABSOLUTELY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT'S COOL. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: TABLE IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: BRING IT AT THE TIME. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MOTION TO TABLE -- JUDGE, THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT OUR RESPONSE IS. >> YOUR TIME PERIOD FOR GETTING THIS ESTABLISHED. REMEMBER THE PUBLIC HEARING IS SET FOR DECEMBER 5, 7, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND SO IF WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING THESE NEGOTIATIONS, WE KIND OF NEED TO KNOW. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE ALL RECEIVED AN EMAIL BUT I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY FORMAL PAPERWORK AT ALL. AN E-MAIL IS -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IT IS AN OFFER. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT ATTACHED TO THE APPLICATION. I DON'T CONSIDER IT FORMAL. IT HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT TO US OF THE EDCS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THEY ARE NOT BRING IT THROUGH THE EDC. >>JUDGE CANALES: THROUGH T THE ARDC. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THEY ARE BRING IT TO US DIRECTLY. >>JUDGE CANALES: MR. VOLS SAID DIFFERENTLY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THE E-MAIL IS FROM THE TESLA REPRESENTATIVE. >>JUDGE CANALES: HE REPRESENTED THAT TO US IN COURT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: BUT I AM SAYING THE TESLA REPRESENTATIVE, BY HER E-MAIL. SHE IS THE TESLA COMPANY. THEY WANT TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH US. THAT IS WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE E-MAIL WAS. AND THAT WAS THEIR FORMAL -- THAT WITH AS A REQUEST -- IF THIS COURT NEEDS TO TELL THEM HOW TO REQUEST DIFFERENTLY. BUT SHE SENT THE REQUEST TO ALL OF US AND NO ONE TOLD HER THAT WASN'T A -- I THINK IT IS AN APPROPRIATE REQUEST. NO FORMAL, LIKE, DETAILED PROCESS. SHE SENT US AN E-MAIL. SHE IS THE TESLA REPRESENTATIVE. SHE WORKS FOR TESLA, AND SHE IS THE ONE MAKING THE REQUEST. I THINK IT IS A REQUEST. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS SEND THAT TO SANDY GOMEZ AND SEE WHAT OPPORTUNITIES, THEN, WOULD BE BROUGHT TO US AND SHE MIGHT ADVISE US IF IN THE PROCESS OF NEGOTIATION WHAT SHE MIGHT THINK HERE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T -- >> SANDY GOMEZ IS IN THE PROCESS OF PREPARING DOCUMENTS BUT BLANK THINGS SHE HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ARE THE DESIRES OF THE COUNTY. SO THOSE ARE THE BUSINESS DECISIONS THAT SHE CAN INFORM THE COURT ON AS HOW THOSE SPECIFIC REQUESTS FROM THE COUNTY CAN BE FILLED OUT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON HERE TODAY, JUDGE, THAT SAYS WE CAN DISCUSS WHAT TESLA HAS PUT FORWARD TO US. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S CORRECT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T SEE IT POSTED ANYWAY. KIND OF MOOT. I THINK THEY MADE -- I THINK THEY MADE A FORMAL REQUEST. IF THIS COURT DEEMS THERE IS SOME OTHER FORMAL PROCESS WE NEED TO TELL THEM HOW TO DO IT. SHE SENT AN E-MAIL. SHE WORKS FOR TESLA. SHE ASKED -- SHE SAID THIS IS WHAT WE WANT AND OUR TURN TO RESPOND, IN MY OPINION, UNLESS THE COURT FEELS DIFFERENTLY. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK OUR PROMISE TO THE PEOPLE IS THAT BEFORE WE RESPOND, WE WILL HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE AND SHARE WITH THE PEOPLE WHAT THEIR ASK IS. THE PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEIR ASK IS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: RIGHT. BUT A WHOLE DIFFERENT SUBJECT. YOU BROUGHT UP -- YOU WERE SAYING. >>JUDGE CANALES: THIS IS AN ITEM PUT FORTH. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK THE REQUESTS HAVE BEEN MADE. THE LOGISTICS OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THAT STUFF IS FINE BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THAT PUBLIC HEARING WAS MUCH FOR THE AREA OF THE COUNTY AND THEIR 313 AND WE HAVE A 312. AND SO FORTH. I AM JUST SAYING. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE 313 -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE DON'T HAVE A TIME ISSUE THAT THE 313 DOES. >>JUDGE CANALES: SO YOU ARE CLEAR, THE 313 IS DONE. COMPLETE. NOTHING NEEDED ANY FURTHER. THE 313 IS VOTED ON AND DECIDED. HEARING IS NOT FOR THE 313. IT IS FOR THE 312. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT AND 313 IT HAS BEEN VOTED ON JUST LIKE CREATING THE TIRS. THAT HAS BEEN VOTED ON TOO. BUT THE 313 HAVEN'T BEEN APPROVED YET. BY THE STATE LEVEL. THAT IS THE ONE THAT COUNTS. THAT HAVEN'T BEEN DONE EITHER. I AM SAYING THAT THEY MADE A REQUEST. WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO RESPOND TO THAT REQUEST. HOW WE RESPOND IS UP TO THIS COURT AND PUT IT ON THE 16TH AND START HAVING DISCUSSIONS AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION THERE IF SOMEONE CAN TELL ME WHAT THE DETRIMENT MIGHT BE. >>JUDGE CANALES: AGAIN, COUNTY ATTORNEY ASKED THIS DETERMINATION BE CONSIDERED AND THATS 'WHY YOU SEE IT ON THE AGENDA. BECAUSE WE ARE NOT DISCUSSING ANYTHING TODAY, IT CERTAINLY CAN WAIT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL THE 16TH AND I WILL ADD THAT WE PUT ON THERE ALSO THE AGENDA ITEM TO START RESPONDING TO TESLA'S REQUEST. [00:25:03] MAKE IT BROADER. MAYBE IT NEEDS TO BE TWO ITEMS. CAN I PUT THAT ON OR -- I WOULD RATHER Y'ALL DO IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WOULD SAY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WILL BE INCLINED TO DO IT IN PUBLIC SO THE PEOPLE KNOW. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM INCLINED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A TOWN HALL THEN WHERE TESLA CAN COME AND MAKE A FULL PRESENTATION. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DISCUSS SOMETHING. WE NEVER EVEN EITHER ANYTHING FROM -- FROM THE COMPANY THEMSELVES. SO I AM HAPPY TO DISCUSS IT, BUT I THINK MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT A DATE SO THEY CAN MAKE A PRESENTATION. BUT -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THEY SHOULD COME ON THE 16TH. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SET UP FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE DID. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: START THE CONVERSATION. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHY WOULD WE DISCUSS OUR POSITION BEFORE WE HEARD FROM THE COMPANY OR THE PEOPLE. >> THE PUBLIC HEARING WHERE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT IS PRETTY MUCH DONE IS SET FOR THE 5TH AND 7TH. THAT MAY BE TOO SOON. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE 7TH WAS THE REGULAR AGENDA MEETING AND THE 5TH IS ONE WE SAID WE WOULD HAVE AT THE FAIRGROUNDS. AND, AGAIN, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IS TO KEEP OUR WORD AND THE PEOPLE SAID THEY WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE COMPANY. HAVE THEM COME HERE ON THE 16TH. WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL TALK TO THEM AND SEE IF THEY CAN MAKE A PRESENTATION ON THE 16TH. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: ALL I WAS ASKING FOR. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: A PUBLIC HEARING ALSO ON THE 16TH. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T KNOW WE CAN HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE SAME DAY DOING A FULL AGENDA. THAT WILL BE VERY TRICKY. A VERY LONG. WE CAN TRY, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN MOVED TO THE 16TH. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE 5TH AND 7TH. DON'T WE ALREADY HAVE THAT? >>JUDGE CANALES: CORRECT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: BRING THEM IN THE 16TH. LET THEM MAKE A PRESENTATION. AND IF IT IS A DETRIMENT TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION. I DON'T. IT IS BETTER TO GO IN THE PUBLIC. SOMETHING COULD COMPEL ME DIFFERENTLY. LET'S START. LET'S GET GOING. >> WHAT YOU HAVE TODAY IS THAT SANDY CAN TELL YOU THE OPTIONS AVAILABLE THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE DISCUSSED BEFORE THAT THE COUNTY CAN ASK. THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN INFORM THE CITIZENS, BUT THERE ARE OPTIONS THAT YOU CAN BE ASKING FOR IN YOUR BUSINESS NEGOTIATIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN BROUGHT UP YET. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SHE CAN INFORM YOU OF. >>JUDGE CANALES: BUT THEY HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT IN CLOSED SESSION AS FAR AS THE LEGAL OR NOT. THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. >> THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS THE CONCERN. I THINK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WANTS TO GIVE US THE OPTION TO VISIT WITH OUR LAWYER SO THEY CAN TALK ABOUT THE ITEMS WE SHOULD BE ASKING. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE HAVE DONE IT ONE WAY ALL THE TIME AND WHY THE CHANGE OPINION I MEAN, IS THERE A REASON FOR THAT? >> THE OPPORTUNITY -- IN THE PAST -- OKAY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HAVEN'T DONE ONE IN A WHILE. >> EXCEPTIONS TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. THIS ONE IF IT IS JUST BUSINESS DISCUSSIONS HAS TO BE DONE A CERTAIN WAY. I AM NOT HERE IS TO TALK ABOUT HOW IT WAS DONE IN THE PAST. THE TOMA PROVIDES THIS DISCUSSION. IF IT IS A BUSINESS DISCUSSION, YOU NEED THIS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SANDY'S IS NOT BUSINESS, THEY ARE LEGAL. >> A COMBINATION AS SHE VIESS YOU ON THE ABATEMENT PROCESSES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE A BUSINESS DISCUSSION. THAT IS NOT VIOLATING THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. TODAY I WOULD RATHER FROM THE BUSINESS DISCUSSION IN PUBLIC. IF SHE HAS LEGAL OPTIONS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER, THAT MAY CHANGE MY MIND. I DON'T THINK SO. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE LEGAL OPTIONS AND NOT HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION TODAY. >> THEN WITH THAT, YOU DON'T NEED THIS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK THE BUSINESS POINTS OUGHT TO BE DONE IN PUBLIC. >>JUDGE CANALES: BUT IF SHE GIVES US LEGAL ADVICE AT THAT TIME TO SAY, HEY, YOU CAN ASK FOR -- I AM JUST -- HYPOTHETICAL. YOU CAN ASK FOR THEM TO PLANT 15 TR TR TREES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU CAN'T DISCUSS IT. PART OF THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATION. THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING THIS ITEM MAYBE NEXT WEEK IS IF YOU HAVE SOME GOOD IDEAS TO INCLUDE NOT JUST ACCEPT OR DENY THEIR REQUEST, THAT WILL NEED THIS. IF YOU ARE GOING TO BASICALLY TE, YOU KNOW WHAT, I WOULD RATHER HAVE 10 TREES INSTEAD OF 15 TREES OR 30 TREES. I WOULD RATHER HAVE, YOU KNOW, A VOLUNTEER FIRE FIGHTER DEPARTMENT BUILD. RIGHT. I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN THE REGIONAL WASTEWATER. I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO [00:30:03] PARTICIPATE IN THE DRAINAGE DISCUSSIONS, RIGHT. THOSE THINGS IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS, THEN THIS IS WHAT ITEM NUMBER IN 1 SAYS. YOU GOT TO DECLARE IT THAT YOU ARE CRAVING THESE NEGOTIATIONS AND WE SHOULD DO THAT ON OUR SIDE. OTHERWISE THEY HAVE -- THEY HAVE AN A ADVANTAGE OVER YOU. IS THAT CLEAR? OKAY. WELL, I THINK WE CAN BRING IT UP AGAIN ON THE 16TH. AND THEN MAYBE BY THEN THERE WILL BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: JUST LIKE TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT. WHO IS LEADING THIS PUSH ON OUR BEHALF? BECAUSE TO MAKE THIS DECISION HERE AT COURT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE PROACTIVELY BEFORE IT EVEN GOT DOWN ON THE AGENDA. SO -- I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BEING DEL DELEGATED TO THE JUDGE OR WHATEVER COURT ADMINISTRATOR. AND SOMEBODY NEEDS TO MAKE SURE -- MAYBE OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY WHO IS GUIDING US TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE EFFICIENT. SO, ONE, TODAY, KIND OF TALKED OUT THE PROCESS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS SOMEONE WHO IS LEADING THAT DISCUSSION. WHOEVER IT IS, I AM FINE WITH, BUT JUST -- SO WE KNOW THAT COULD BE THE POINT OF CONTACT. BECAUSE I SAW THAT E-MAIL. AND REACHED OUT TO ALL OF US. AND WE LEGALLY HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET TO A COURT MEETING BEFORE WE MAKE THAT DECISION, BUT IF SOMEONE ELSE THAT CAN BE MORE PROACTIVE IN ENGAGING WITH THEIR REPRESENTATIVES, THAT WILL BE HELPFUL TOO. OBVIOUSLY SOMEBODY HAS TO REACH OUT TO THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE AWARE THAT IN TWO WEEKS, THEY WILL COME BACK. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK JENNY AND SANDY. OUR POCS. >> WE ARE DEALING WITH THE PROCESSES AND HAVE TO GET THINGS DONE BY A CERTAIN TIME. AS FAR AS THEE OF WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS, THAT IS OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW. WE CAN COMMUNICATE THOSE THINGS FOR YOU. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YOU AND THE COUNTY MANAGER SHOULD COMMUNICATE WITH THE TESLA FOLKS BECAUSE THEY SAID HERE IS YOUR POINT OF CONTACT. SHE SENT US ON NOTICE. SHE PROBABLY DIDN'T KNOW WHO TO SEND IT TOO AND SENT IT TO ALL OF US. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE ON THE E-MAIL. WE WILL FORWARD THAT TO YOU SO YOU HAVE IT. JOHN IS RIGHT, SOMEONE HAS GOT TO TAKE THE LEAD ON THAT COME MAREZ. MOTION TO TABLE IT. I DON'T WANT TO CUT ANYBODY OFF. >>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION AND A [2. Discuss and consider approval of Change Order No. 6 from Mako Contracting for the flat roof & paver system replacement and handrail repricing due to change in handrail design and material. ] SECOND. LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 3-A-2. A CHANGE ORDER FROM MAKO. I SAW SCOTT ENTER. THE HANDRAIL PRICING DUE TO CHANGE IN MATERIAL MY UNDERSTANDING IT IS IMPORTANT AND IN OUR BUDGET. >> IT IS IMPORTANT AND IN OUR BUDGET. THE LAST BIG TICKET ITEM THAT WE HAVE THAT WILL COME BEFORE YOU TO FINISH THE BUILDING. THERE WILL BE SOME SMALLER CLEANUP ITEMS LATER, YOU KNOW PUNCH LIST TYPE THINGS IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU, BUT WILL COME AT A LEADER DATE AND STILL WILL BE WITHIN BUDGET BETWEEN WHAT YOU ASSIGN TO THE BUILDING WITH DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES. AND A LOT OF VARIOUS FUNDING SOURCES AND I CAN'T RATTLE THEM ALL OFF AND THE INSURANCE PROCEEDS YOU GAVE US. THIS HAS BEEN PROBABLY THE MOST DIFFICULT ITEM TO NAIL DOWN, BECAUSE OF TDI REQUIREMENT A AND TDI, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE. NONE WHAT WE HAD BEFORE WHEN THAT FLAT ROOF WAS BUILT. TDI WOULD NOT CERTIFY THAT SPEC WE USED BACK THEN. THE PRODUCT THAT THEY WOULD CERTIFY, THAT THE CONTRACTOR WOULD INSTALL. AND THE CONTRACTOR HAS TO FIND THE RIGHT SUB WHO IS LICENSED TO DO THE INSTALLATION OF THAT PRODUCT. THAT HAS BEEN THE DELAY. WE ARE ON TRACK. WE ARE MAKING GREAT PROGRESS. ONCE THIS IS TAKEN CARE OF, THE ROOFING CONTRACTOR IS ON-SITE. THEY ARE DOING THE STRESS. IDAI, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THIS. ONE POINT FOR THOSE THAT ARE OUT THERE, WE HAVE HARD DEADLINES BEFORE TUESDAY BEFORE COURT TO MEET OUR AGENDA ITEMS IN THE SYSTEM WITH ALL OF OUR BACK-UP. THIS ONE IDAY ALLOWED FOR AN EXCEPTION AND GAVE ME INFORMATION IF WE DIDN'T GET THIS PASSED TODAY THAT THE CONTRACTOR WILL DEMOBILIZE AND REMOBILIZE AND WILL COST US MORE MONEY AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT. STRESS UPON THOSE OUT THERE LISTENING WE NEED THIS STUFF DONE ON THE TUESDAY BEFORE THE WEDNESDAY OF COURT. AND I AM NO LONGER GOING TO MAKE EXCEPTIONS FOR THESE FOLKS IF THEY DON'T PUT THE DEADLINE. THROWS COMMISSIONERS COURT IN A [00:35:03] TAILSPIN. Y'ALL DON'T HAVE THE BACK-UP WHAT YOU NEED TO REVIEW BEFORE WE COME IN HERE, AND IT IS JUST PROBLEMATIC. THANK YOU AND HOPEFULLY YOU WILL APPROVE IT AND MOVE DOWN THE ROAD. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: MY QUESTION ON THE BACK-UP. I AM GLAD YOU ANSWERED IT. WHY IS IT WE HAVE SIX CHANGE ORDER AS SOON AS EVERY TEAM THEY DO THAT, ARE THEY INCREASING ON THE FUNDS OR INCREASING ON THE TIME? >> WE KNOW WE HAD THESE ELEMENTS COMING UP AND UNKNOWN CONDITIONS IN THE BUILDING BECAUSE IT CELT FOR SO LONG. FOR INSTANCE, THE MOLD PROBLEM WE FOUND. WE DID NOT KNOW THE EXTENT OF IT. IT WAS CHEAPER -- A CHANGE ORDER. CHEAPER TO RIP OUT SOME OF THE FRAMING ON THE INSIDE AND TRY TO TREAT IT AND LATER ON FIGURE OUT YOU DIDN'T GET IT ALL. ALL THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN CREEPING UP THROUGH THE PROCESS. THE OTHER THING WITH THE ROOF HAVE BEEN TDI, THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE TO FIND A PRODUCT TO SIGN OFF ON. GOOD EYES ON THE PROJECT. MY EYES AND MY ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM THAT ARE CHECKING THE NUMBERS WHEN THEY GET PAYMENT SUBMITTALS. SCOTT MEARS. HE IS BIRDDOGGING THIS THING WELL. MY MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR. THE ENGINEER OF RECORD AND WINDSTORM ENGINEER. WE ARE KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON THIS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THANK YOU. >> OKAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE. A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MAREZ. I WILL SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY. SCOTT, JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? >> MICHAEL IS NOT UP HERE, BUT THE SELECTION OR RECOMMENDATION ON THE ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THE GRANT AT PACKER CHANNEL NATURE PARK HE WAS GOING TO BRING UP AND DISCUSS WITH YOU GUYS. HE IS NOT HERE NOW AND I CAN ALWA ALWAYS. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T SEE THAT ON THERE. >> MAYBE PUT IT ON THE 16TH. I AM SORRY. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. I AM OUT OF HERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL LET YOU GO. >> THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU SO [3. Discuss and consider identification of drainage projects for submission under CDBG-MIT grant, including projects to be submitted in lieu of submission under the Top 15 Preliminary Flood Risk Areas identified for further analysis for the TWDB Tri-County Drainage Master Plan Study; Discuss and consider alternate funding sources for identified drainage projects, and related matters.] MUCH. THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEMS ARE OUR FLOOD RISK -- BUT I AM WAITING FOR -- ARE THEY COMING? SO THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE HERE UNTIL 10:30. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO TABLE THAT ONE. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO TABLE THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: ONE SECOND -- ON ITEM NUMBER 3 IS NOT SUSAN. ITEM NUMBER 4 IS SUSAN. GONE GONZALEZ NUMBER 3, I WANT TO TABLE NUMBER 3. >> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ON ITEM NUMBER 3, THE ACTION IS TO TABLE. I WANT TO BRING OUT THAT IT IS RELATED TO ITEM NUMBER 4, AND AT THAT TIME, YOU MAY WANT TO RECONSIDER, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T DEAL WITH SOME OF THESE, AT LEAST IN -- YOU DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE THE ACTUAL PROJECTS FOR CDBG, BUT WE AT LEAST HAVE TO MAKE A STATEMENT ON THE RECORD THAT SOME OF THESE PRODUCTS WILL BE HANDLED BY CDBG. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE MIXED TOGETHER. TWO WHOLLY SEPARATE ITEMS. TWO DIFFERENT POCKETS OF MONEY HERE. THEY SHOULDN'T EVEN BE TOGETHER. IT SAYS PROJECTS, DRAINAGE PROJECTS. AND THEY ARE NOT PROJECTS. I THOUGHT SUSAN UNDERSTOOD WHEN WE HAD A MEETING WITH HER. EVERYTHING WAS CLEAR AND ACCORDING TO WHAT SHE PROVIDED SHE IS CLEAR ON THIS FORM HERE, BUT WE NEED TO GET AWAY FROM PROJECTS. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT PROJECTS RIGHT NOW. WE ARE TALKING OF FLOOD DRAINAGE AREAS ACCORDING TO THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD GRANT AND CDBG, IT IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT GRANT AND BE MIXED WITH THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY GOT TOGETHER HERE, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO SEPARATE THEM AND DISCUSS THEM PROBABLY THE NEXT MEETING. >>JUDGE CANALES: IDAY, PUT IT ON FOR THE NEXT MEETING AND I WILL ASK YOU SINCE I ASKED YOU TO PLACE ON THE BACK-UP. 2 WOULD HAVE HELPED HIM. YOU SPOKE TO COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. >> THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN. ON THE 16TH TO HAVE GOOD PRODUCTS. >>JUDGE CANALES: THERE IS CONFUSION. >> THIS IS DIFFERENT. CDBG IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT SUSAN IS WORKING ON. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SHE IS NOT WORKING ON THAT. SUSAN A WORKING ON THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. >>JUDGE CANALES: NUMBER 3 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SUSAN -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: HAS THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. I WANT TO TABLE IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: WILL YOU TAKE SOME TIME TO EXPLAIN IT. AND I WILL GET TO IT ON NUMBER 4. WE WILL BE ABLE TO READDRESS -- THEY ARE DRIVING IN FROM AUSTIN. LET'S GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE TI [00:40:04] TIME. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A SECOND TO TABLE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: ITEM NUMBER 4 [5. Discuss and consider adoption of accounts payable policy in accordance with Texas Prompt Pay Act.] WE WILL GET TO IN JUST A MOMENT. ITEM NUMBER 5, JENNY, THIS IS A ADOPTION OF THE POLICY OF TEXAS PROMPT PAYMENT ACT REVIEW A POLICY AND BRING IT BACK WITHIN 31 DAYS AS IT IS THE LAW, OUR BILLS GET PAID. AND, AGAIN, A STATUTE ON IT. AND THE POLICY WOULD BE AN INTERNAL POLICY TO DIRECT DEPARTMENT HEADS TO BASICALLY PRODUCE THOSE INVOICES TO THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR -- WELL, REALLY TO THE AUDITOR WITH A COPY TO THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR. >> THE ISSUE IS TIMING. THE DEPARTMENT HAS AN ISSUE WITH THIS DOCUMENT, YOU HAVE 21 DAYS AS WELL. SO WE NEED TO PUT IT OUT THERE ON A POLICY. THAT IS WHY I RECOMMEND TO DO IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: SO A POLICY HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORTH. I KNOW YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE MOST LIKELY TO BRING IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHERE IS THE POLICY. >>JUDGE CANALES: NOT FOR TODAY, BUT I HAVE GIVEN IT TO IDAY AND TO JENNY. JUST THE LAW ITSELF. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: YOU ARE SAYING THE DIRECTOR HAS CONCERNS AND HAS 21 DAYS TO. >> BY LAW HAS 21 DAYS TO ADDRESS THAT WITH THE VENDOR, YEAH. A PROCESS THAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: OKAY. DO WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO MAKE SURE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY KNOWS THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING THIS? >> WE ARE GOING TO WORK ON THE POLICY AND THEN BRING IT BACK WITH ALL THE -- WITH THE PROCESS. BOTH, YEAH. AND OBVIOUSLY WITH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE. >>JUDGE CANALES: DID YOU GET A COPY OF IT? >> YES, I DID. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT POLICY BASICALLY STANDS FOR THREE PREMISES. EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID AND ALSO HAVE EXCEPTIONS, RIGHT. ALWAYS EXCEPTIONS. AND THE EXCEPTIONS ARE BROUGHT FORTH BY THE STATUTE AND THIS POLICY IF YOU CIRCULATE IT TO EVERYBODY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE 16TH COMES VERY FAST. AND.BASICALLY STATES THE LAW AND STATES THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE LAW AND ALSO DIRECTS DEPARTMENT HEADS AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME IF THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT IT IS THIS COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT GETS TO MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS. BUT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE IT TO YOU AND TO THE AUDITOR. AND THIS WILL COMPLY WITH THE LAW AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN COMPLYING WITH THE LAW. SO I THINK THIS POLICY IS GOOD BECAUSE YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, DO YOU NEED A POLICY IF IT IS ALREADY THE LAW? APPARENTLY, WHY YES. SO THE POLICY IS REALLY ABOUT DIRECTING THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO DO CERTAIN THINGS. AND TO -- TO BE ABLE TO PLACE IT ON THIS AGENDA WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: OBVIOUSLY IF THERE ARE NO DISPUTE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE EXCEPTIONS CLEARLY SAY THAT. EVEN IF IT IS A DISPUTE, THE DISPUTE GETS SOLVED AT OUR LEVEL AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOING. IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLICY IT SAYS, HERE ARE EXCEPTIONS. IF YOU THINK AN EXCEPTION EXISTS -- >>JUDGE CANALES: BACK AT THE RECORD AT 9:40 A.M. MY MOTION IS TO DIRECT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO PLEASE BRING FORTH A PAYABLE POLICY IN ACCORDANCE PRESIDENT TEXAS PROMPT PAYMENT ACT FOLLOWING ALL THE RULES THAT TEXAS LAW PROVIDES AND TO DO SO EXPEDIENTLY TO HELP OURSELVES BY GETTING OUR PAYMENTS PAID PROMPTLY. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> YOUR HONOR, I WILL BE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY BECAUSE THE NEW SOFTWARE YOU ALLOWED US TO ACQUIRE HAS A PLATFORM IN IT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY INVOICE WILL BE SCANNED. ONCE IT IS SCANNED AND WORK FLOW AND TIMING ISSUE. ONCE THIS NEW SOFTWARE BEGINS, THIS PROBABLY WILL NOT BE AN IS ISSUE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS GREAT. WE WILL JUST HOPE FOR THAT AND WE WILL -- >> FINGERS CROSSED. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: FOR THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY, THEY SHOULD PAY THE BILLS FOR US. >>. >> WILL BE ABLE TO READ THE INVOICES BECAUSE IT HAS [00:45:03] ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS GREAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. [6. Discuss and consider funding of the non-profit Instituto de Cultura Hispanica de Corpus Christi in support of its Mar de Cultura project through American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds -County Judge ARPA allocation; Discuss and consider funding Emergency Operation Center monitoring and presentation system upgrades through American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds -County Judge ARPA allocation; Discuss and consider funding Texas Sealife Center upgrades through American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds -County Judge ARPA allocation.] OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 6 IS THE DISCUSSION AND CONSIDER FUNDING OF THE NONPROFIT INSTITUTE DE CULTURA HISPANICA DE CORPUS CHRISTI. IN SUPPORT OF ITS PROJECT THROUGH THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN THROUGH THE ARPA ALLOCATIONS. OTHER ITEMS INSIDE HERE, BUT FIRST LET ME MAKE THIS MOTION TO SUPPORT THIS. THEY HAVE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND FOR YOU WHEN WE GET INTO THE DISCUSSION. AND, OF COURSE, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. IS THERE A SECOND -- COMM. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WANTED TO ADD LANGUAGE OF HAGERTY AND EVERYTHING VERIFIED. >>JUDGE CANALES: BEFORE I PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, I DO THAT ALREADY. IT IS VETTED AND MEETS THE ELIGIBILITY. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I ALSO HAVE -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHO VETTED IT. I ASKED AND I -- I HEARD THERE ARE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN PASSED THROUGH HAGERTY AND WHATEVER. WHO HAS VETTED IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THEY ARE VETTED BY HAGERTY AND THEY ARE DETERMINING OUR ELIGIBILITY. WHEN WE GET TO THE ACTUAL DOCUMENTATION IT GOES TO JEFF, WHO IS OUR ARPA PERSON. SO ONCE WE ACTUALLY GET THE DOCUMENT TO HAVE THE AGREEMENT, THAT -- THEY DO THAT. THEY HAVE NOT DONE THAT. WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW IS HELPING TO GET THAT PROCESS STARTED. FIRST YOU HAVE TO ALLOCATE. THEN THE -- THEN THE DOCUMENTS GET GENERATED. BUT THEY HAVE MET ARE HAGERTY. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM -- CAN I JUST FINISH. I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I AM TOO. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: BUT I HAVE SEEN NO BACK-UP ON ANY OF THESE PROJECTS WE ARE PUTTING ON THAT HAGERTY HAS VETTED THEM. SO I WOULD SURE LIKE TO SEE THAT. BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN NOTHING ON THAT. SO I WOULD -- ALL I WANT TO DO IS ADD THE SUBJECT TO THE VETTING LANGUAGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS FINE. I AM HAPPY TO HAVE THAT SUBJECT TO THE CONFIRMATION. WHAT WE WILL START DOING FROM NOW ON IS GENERATING MAYBE AN E-MAIL THAT THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR. I AM REPRESENTING TO THE COURT THAT THEY HAVE AND REPRESENTING TO THE COURT THAT A 501-C-3 CAN BE A BENEFICIARY BASED ON RULES. YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOOK TOO HARD, BUT FITS INTO SEVERAL BUCKETS ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE AND TOURISM AND HOSPITALITY AND 501-C-3 BENEFICIARIES. FITS MULTIPLE BUCKETS AND THE BUCKET THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE IS THE 501-C-3 NONPROFIT STATUS UNLESS THERE IS A NEXUS BETWEEN THE GOOD WORK THEY ARE DOING AND -- AND THE FACTOR THIS UNDER A 501 C 3. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SUBJECT TO HAGERTY VETTING. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM HAPPY TO HAVE THE SUBJECT TO. THEY SPOKE WITH ADRIANA AND THEY ARE IN RIGHT OF THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I WANT SOMETHING THAT I WANT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO RESPOND LATER. I AM SUPPORT IT BECAUSE THIS IS THE INSTITUTE DE CULTURA. I KNOW THE ORGANIZATION, BUT ONLINE PROFITS -- I SUPPORT THEM PAUSE THEY NEED THE MONEY. I JUST DON'T WANT TO LATER TO COME BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I AM SORRY, BUT CAN'T HAVE THAT MONEY AND YOU CAN'T HAVE ALL THAT MONEY. I THINK -- I THINK WE HAVEN'T EVEN SET UP A PROCESS, I DON'T THINK. OF HOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO APPLY OR -- TO GET VETTED THAT THEY ARE QUALIFICATIONS THAT THEY CAN GET 180,000 OR 300,000. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT MISLEADING THIS ORGANIZATION IN SAYING WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU THIS AND THEN EXPECT GIVE HIM THAT. THIS IS MY CONCERN. DOWN THE ROAD. YOU GUYS DESERVE EVERY PENNY THAT YOU CAN GET. AND I JUST WANT -- I UNDERSTAND THAT -- THIS COULD CHANGE, RIGHT. I MEAN, I JUST -- AND -- DON'T COME BACK AND TELL US THAT YOU DIDN'T TELL ME THAT. RIGHT. SO I AM JUST SAYING -- I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. I AM CONCERNED -- I HAVE GOTTEN CALLS, WHEN DO I GET MY MONEY? BEN DO I GET MY CHECK? AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL THEM OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW WHAT, I DIDN'T PROMISE YOU THE MONEY, BUT I WILL FOLLOW YOU UP ON IT. YOU CAN -- YOU KNOW, WHATEVER I CAN TO DO HELP, I WILL. I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE GOING BACKWARDS HERE OR START THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE HERE. WE NEED TO REALLY COME UP WITH A PLAN. COME UP WITH THE -- YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU LIKE PLANS, JUDGE, AND COME UP WITH A PLAN. HOW ARE WE GOING TO TACKLE? [00:50:01] EVERY TIME WE GET MONEY TO SOMEBODY, IT SHOULD BE PROCESSED AT THAT TIME NO MORE THAN 15 DAYS BEING PROCESSED TO SEE WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO AND SEE HOW MUCH THEY QUALIFY FOR. BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE SOME RESTRICTIONS ON THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT CERTAIN ORGANIZATIONS QUALIFY FOR. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT JUST THROWING MONEY OUT THERE AND SAYING WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS AND THIS, AND THEN WE CAN'T. SO THIS IS MY CONCERN, RIGHT. AND I ALWAYS SUPPORTED THE ORGANIZATION AS FAR AS I CAN. AND I JUST WANT -- IT IS NOT JUST YOU -- TALK ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE. ALL THE OTHER NONPROFITS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT -- THAT WE CAN DO THAT. BECAUSE I KNOW NOBODY HAS MONEY YET, I DON'T THINK. ANYBODY HAVE ANY MONEY? >> NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE $1 MILLION THAT THE COURT HAS SET FORTH. YOU ARE BRINGING FORTH A TEMPLATE FOR CHARITIES. THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS IS. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE MAN THAT COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ IS TALKING ABOUT YOU ARE WORKING ON IT AND WILL BRING IT FORWARD. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. THE $1 MILLION. WE HAVEN'T EVEN ACTED ON THAT $1 MILLION YET. WE NEED TO DO THAT PRETTY QUICK BECAUSE MONEY THAT ANYBODY CAN AMY FOR. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S CORRECT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: IT WILL BE GOOD MONIES THAT ARE GUARANTEED MONIES, RIGHT. BUT I AM TALKING ABOUT THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN. THERE ARE ALREADY SOME RESTRICTION THAT ARE IN THERE. BECAUSE I READ SOMEWHERE THAT THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS IN THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS. SO I THINK -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING HERE AND NOT MISSING ANYBODY. BECAUSE NOBODY HAS GOTTEN ANY MONEY FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN. SO -- >> NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: GIVING MONEY AWAY FROM THE LAST MONTH AND A HALF AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS GOTTEN ANY MONEY. A WAY, JENNY, OR SOMETHING TO KIND OF DISTRIBUTE THIS MONEY SOMEHOW. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT NOBODY HAS GOT ANY MONEY. SO WHERE DO WE GO? WHAT DO WE DO? >> AS FAR AS OUR PART, THE ANALYSIS WE DO CONSTITUTIONALLY AND BY THE FINAL RULES, AS SOON AS WE HAVE ENOUGH DOCUMENTATION REGARDING NOT ONLY THE NONPROFIT BUT THE. HE SPRIFK PROJECT, WE GO THROUGH AND -- SPECIFIC PROJECT, WE GO THROUGH AND ARE WORKING ON THE ANALYSIS. WE GET THE INFORMATION WHEN THE COURT -- OFFER AFTER GENERALLY SPEAK IT COMES UP TO COURT AND NOT GIVEN US TO BEFOREHAND. IF QUICK GET THE WHOLE THING AND ALL THE INFORMATION BEFORE HAND, WE CAN HAVE THAT INFORMATION PREPARED BEFORE HAND. BUT A SEPARATE INQUIRY FROM WHAT HAGERTY DOES. >>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WITH EACH OF US HAVING OUR OWN ALLOCATION, THIS -- THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT THAT HAS BEEN PREPARED BY THE INSTITUTE WAS CONSIDERED AND VETTED AND PUT THE SUBJECT TO. BUT COMES FLORIDA CJ'S ALLOCATION. NO RESTRICTION ON DOLLARS AT ALL, SO YOU KNOW, UNDER THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT; HOWEVER, CERTAIN AMOUNTS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE OVER $100,000 DOES HAVE TO HAVE A JUSTIFICATION, A NARRATIVE PROVIDED TO TREASURY, BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE HERE. SO THE -- AGAIN, EVERY TIME WE BRING FORTH A PROJECT, IT IS BROUGHT FORTH TO HAGERTY. AND THEY GO THROUGH THEIR PROCESSES AND THEY CAN PROVIDE YOU THE BACK-UP DOCUMENTATION FOR THAT. BUT, AGAIN, IN GENERAL, NONPROFITS UNDER THE FINAL RULES HAVE A STRAIGHTAWAY NEXUS TO BE A BENEFICIARY, PARTICULARLY IF COVID-19 INJURED THEM, IF. I USE THAT WORD OF LOOSELY. INJURED THEM IN A WAY THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO FUND SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT THEY WOULD NORMALLY HAVE DONE WITH THEIR OWN FUND RAISING ABILITIES. BUT FOR THE ECONOMIC SITUATION THAT COVID PROVIDED MAKES IT HARD. SO, AGAIN, THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN. AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A GOOD PROCESS. AND IT STARTS WITH SOMEBODY MAKING A RECOMMENDATION. THAT PERSON ACCEPTING IT. SOMETIMES IT COMES TO THE COURT. SOMETIMES IT COMES TO THE INDIVIDUALS. AND IN THIS CASE IT CAME TO THE INDIVIDUAL, AND YOU ARE -- JUST LIKE WE HAVE DONE ON SCHOOL SAFETY AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS, YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO PITCH IN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, AND TODAY STARTS THE ALLOCATION AND BEGINS TO -- BEGINS TO EVOLVE IN EITHER AN INTERLOCAL IF IT IS A POLITICAL JURISDICTION OR COMES INTO A -- SOME SORT OF A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING. BUT EITHER WAY, THAT PROCESS STARTS HERE. AND THEN FINDS UP WITH JEFF, WHO IS OUR ARPA ATTORNEY. AND JEFF IS WORKING ON THOSE DOCUMENTS. AND THE HOPE IS THAT THEY WILL HAVE A TEMPLATE FOR EACH CATEGORY. WITH EACH CATEGORY, HE CAN HAVE A NEW SCOPE OF WORK AND BE ABLE TO GET THESE DOLLARS OUT THE DOOR. THAT IS WHY I ASKED YESTERDAY FOR IDAY TO POST FOR THAT ARPA MANAGER AND THE PERSON YOU ARE [00:55:06] LOOKING FOR TO TIE THIS ALL TOGETHER IS THE ARPA MANAGER. THAT WILL HAPPEN AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO GO A LOT MORE EFFICIENTLY. IT STARTS WITH GOOD PROJECTS COMING FORWARD AND SOMEONE SAYING, YES, THAT NEEDS TO BE VETTED AND WHY HE, I WOULD LIKE TO FUND. AND THIS IS WHAT BRINGS US HERE TO COURT TODAY. SO WITH THAT, WOULD YOU JUST OUTLINE THE GOOD PROJECT FOR US, ADRIANA AND INTRODUCE YOUR TEAM. OKAY. SHE IS GOING TO TURN THAT ON FOR YO YOU. >> OKAY. GOOD MORNING. FELIZ. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. WE ARE REPRESENT THE INSTITUTE DE CULTURA HISPANICA DE CORPUS CHRISTI. WE ARE EXCITED TO SHARE THIS ONE-YEAR PROJECT WITH YOU ALL. IT IS BASICALLY DIFFERENT AREAS. WHEN WE COMMUTE ALL THE LATIN AMERICAN CULTURE. AND MOST OF THE PROJECT WILL BE IN SPANISH. IT COMES WITH OUR CULTURE AND ALSO TECHNOLOGY. LET ME INTRODUCE GENERAL PADILLA AND VALASQUEZ. WE ARE PART -- WE ARE VOLUNTEERS WITH THE INSTITUTE. WE PROVIDE A LOT OF TIME TO TRY TO IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITY IN A PROPER WAY. I SENT DOCUMENTATION ONE WEEK AGO FOR ALL THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE PROJECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER, ALLOWS US TO RESPOND BACK. WE APPRECIATE IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: WELCOME. >> WELCOME, JUDGE CANALES AND ALL COMMISSIONERS. I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF YOUR TIME. ONE PROJECT OF DIFFERENT COMPONENTS. OUR INSTITUTE DE CULTURA HAS BEEN FOUNDED SINCE 1976 AND SERVING THE COMMUNITY FOR ALMOST FIVE DECADES. WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO SO. THROUGH -- DURING THE YEARS OF COVID, IT DID AFFECT THE INSTITUTE. WE WERE NOT ABLE TO DO THE FUND RAISING THAT WE USUALLY DO. AND SO, WE -- WE ARE FORTUNATE TO CONTINUE WITH THE INSTITUTE THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT, OF COURSE, WE HAVE APPLIED FOR THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO THRIVE AND CONTINUE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY THE WAY WE HAVE DONE PAST FIVE DECADES. LIKE SHE MENTIONED, WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE SPANISH-SPEAKING COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND. ALL OUR EVENTS ARE BILINGUAL AND IN ENGLISH. THERE IS A BIG PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY THAT IS DISENFRANCHISED BECAUSE THERE ARE LANGUAGE BARRIERS. AND WE ALSO OFFER THE TRANSLATION SERVICES. EVERYBODY IN THE INSTITUTE IS BILINGUAL AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE VERY PROUD OF. THE FIRST PART -- THE FIRST COMPONENT OF WHAT WE WANT TO START DOING AS OF NEXT YEAR IS BRINGING EXPERTS FROM A VARIETY OF FIELD TO GIVE WORK AUTHORIZATIONS THAT WILL -- WORK SHOPS OF ENTREPRENEURIALSHIP, ARTS AND SELF-CARE. THESE ARE EVENTS THAT WILL BE HELD THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE YEAR AT THE INSTITUTE. AND ANOTHER COMPONENT OF IT WILL BE TO PROVIDE K-12 STUDENTS WITH SCHOLARSHIPS TO BE USED FOR STEM WORKSHOPS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND IN COLLABORATION WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND THEIR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WITH DR. JOSE BACA AND HIS TEAM. ANOTHER COMPONENT WILL BE A FAIR CELEBRATING WOMENHOOD WITH THE COLLABORATION OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT WILL PROVIDE INFORMATION AND TOOLS FOR WOMEN. INCLUDED BUT NOT LIMITED TO HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, LEGAL SERVICES AND DOMESTIC ABUSE SERVICES. AGAIN, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE THERE FOR WOMEN AND ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO NEED SOME OF THESE SERVICES. ANOTHER COMPONENT -- THIS IS A ONE-TIME EVENT, WHICH WE WILL BE INVITING A PHYSICIAN FROM DRISCOLL HOSPITAL TO GIVE A TALK OF COVID AND VACCINATIONS AND AFTERWARDS, WE WILL HAVE A CULTURAL COMPONENT, WHERE WE WILL BE HAVING TRES MAGOS. THE THREE WISE MEN, WHO WILL BE PROVIDING FAMILIES WITH PREPAID HEB CARDS. AND FINALLY, OUR LAST COMPONENT WILL BE TO PROVIDE RESIDENTS OF NUECES COUNTY WITH INFORMATION REGARDING THEIR CIVIL RIGHTS AND RESOURCES. THERE ARE PLENTY OF RESOURCES INCLUDED IN THIS BUILDING AND THIS COURTHOUSE THAT A LOT OF TIME ARE RESIDENTS OF NUECES COUNTY ARE NOT AWARE OF. WE WANT TO PROVIDE RESOURCES AND INFORMATION. A LOT OF GREAT THINGS THAT NONPROFITS ARE DOING SUCH AS THE PURPLE DOOR. WE WANT TO BE AN EXTENSION AND CONTINUE TO GIVE PRESENTATIONS AND WORKSHOPS OF WHAT THIS WONDERFUL COUNTY HAS TO OFFER. [01:00:03] IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: DO YOU GREAT WORK AND A FEW QUESTIONS OF GETTING IT FINAL FINALIZED. AND I SUPPORT PROCEDURALLY THAT WE GET DOCUMENTATION AND BACK-UP IN THE FUTURE ITEM. JUDGE, WAS THERE A MOTION ALREADY? >>JUDGE CANALES: I HAVE GOT THE MOTION AND I THINK YOU SECONDED IT. THIS WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION, AND WE AGREE AND ALWAYS LIKE TO TELL ANYBODY WHO COMES BEFORE US FIRST PART OF THIS IS ALLOCATION. THE SECOND PART IS THE MINUTE THAT THE COURT MAKES THE DECISION, THEY WILL CONTACT YOU BACK AGAIN. THIS IS HOW IT WORKED WITH ALL OF OUR RECIPIENTS. THEY WILL CONTACT YOU BACK. AND MAKE SURE ANY INFORMATION THAT IS NEEDED COMES FORTH. AND THEN THE PROCESS BEGINS TO CREATE THE DOCUMENT ALLOWS US TO TRANSFER THE DOLLARS TO YOU. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THERE IS A COMPLIANCE PIECE OF IT. AND THAT ALSO, AGAIN, IS PART OF THE COURT'S PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET TO CELEBRATE ALL OF THESE GREAT VICTORIES THAT WE ARE HAVING. BUT IN THIS CASE, IN PROGRAM IS A YEAR-LONG PROGRAM BOTH WITH THE UNIVERSITY. TAKES PLACE AT -- SOME AT THE UNIVERSITY, SOME AT THE INSTITUTE DOWNTOWN IN HERITAGE PARK. AND IT IS JUST A WEALTH OF PROGRAMS. IF WE WERE GOING TO -- LET'S JUST SAY THAT WE, THE COUNTY, WANTED TO SAY, I WANT TO DO ALL THESE GREAT THINGS THAT YOU OUTLINED, RIGHT, IT WOULD TAKE A HUGE STAFF. IT WOULD TAKE A TON MORE MONEY. AND WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO EVEN HAVE THE BEGINNINGS OF THE LOGISTICS TO PUT IT TOGETHER. SO THIS IS WHAT INTERESTED ME, AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS COMING ORIGINALLY TO ALL OF OUR TOWN HALLS AND MAKING CERTAIN THAT WE KNEW THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE. AND, AGAIN, IT IS CHECKING THE BOX IN MY MIND. I NOTICE THAT COMMUNITY SURVEY REALLY LACKED IN THE AREA OF ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE. AND JUST THE WORK YOU ARE DOING WITH THE KIDS IN THE SCHOLARSHIP IN THE CAMPS THAT ALONE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN MY ATTENTION AND JUST ONE PIECE OF THE OVERALL PROGRAM. SO THIS IS KIND OF A -- A HUGE BRAVO. AND I SUSPECT THAT THIS ONE WILL GET A LOT OF GOOD ATTENTION ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL AS WELL, BECAUSE YOU ARE KEYING IN ON THE VULNERABLE OF OUR COMMUNITY SO -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: DO Y'ALL HAVE A START DATE FOR THIS OR ANYTHING? THIS WILL TAKE A WHILE. WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IT IS NOT COMING TOMORROW. >> WE UNDERSTAND THERE IS A PROCESS AND TIME. WE ARE HAPPY TO PROVIDE ANY OTHER FURTHER DOCUMENTATION. WE ARE A 501-C-3. IF THERE IS OTHER DOCUMENTATION WE NEED TO SUBMIT TO PROVE OUR STATUS AND WHAT NOT. EVEN IF DOCUMENTATION THAT IT IS REQUESTED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. NEXT YEAR. OF HOW WE ARE DOING -- YOU KNOW, HOW WE ARE GOING ALONG WITH THE PROJECT. WE WILL BE HAPPY TO SUBMIT A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION. THE GREAT THING ABOUT THE INSTITUTE IS THAT THE MEMBERS -- THERE IS A WEALTH OF PEOPLE WILLING TO COLLABORATE. AND VOLUNTEER. WE HAVE MEDICAL DOCTORS. WE HAVE ATTORNEYS. WE HAVE EDUCATORS WHO ARE WILLING TO GIVE THEIR TIME. AND WE ARE GRATEFUL THAT THEY ARE THE ONES BEING ABLE TO DO THE LAY WORK. >>JUDGE CANALES: I KNOW THE COURT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE YOUR WHOLE POWERPOINT, BUT I THINK IT WAS ATTACHED. I KNOW, BUT HE HAS A NICE SLIDE SHOW AS WELL. WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS THE DIGITAL PIECE AS WELL IF THEY WANT TO GO BACK AND ASSIST. BUT IT DOES -- IT HAS A DOLLAR AMOUNT. SHARE WITH THE COURT WHAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THE WHOLE YEAR. >> THE GRANT PROPOSAL FOR $100,000. >>JUDGE CANALES: SO THAT IS THE -- THAT IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY. AND SO THE MOTION -- JUST FOR CLARIFICATION FOR LORENZO FOR ARPA TO BE AWARDED TO THE INSTITUTE DE CULTURA HISPANICA DE CORPUS CHRISTI. OF COURSE, THAT THE -- THAT IT IS SUBJECT TO ALL OF THE COMMENTARY WHICH WAS HAD WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, A PROPER VETTING. GOES TO EVERY PROJECT IS OBVIOUSLY VETTED. AND MAKING CERTAIN THAT THOSE DOCUMENTS BECOME TRULY OFFICIAL WHEN THE DOCUMENTS ARE SIGNED. AND JUST LIKE ANY CONTRACT, YOU WILL SEE IT COME BACK TO COURT. WE MAY HAVE YOU BACK THE DAY WE ACTUALLY SAY HERE IS THE CONTRACT. WE ARE GOING TO SIGN IT. AND THAT WILL BE THE FINAL, AS THEY SAY, STAGE. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE GROUP, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE WE VOTE. [01:05:02] COUNTY JUDGE AIP ALLOCATIONS. I WANT TO EXPLAIN ONE THING. REALLY COMMISSIONERS COURT ALLOCATION. MONIES ASSIGNED TO THE JUDGE IS ASSIGNED TO US. WE WERE ASKED TO DO PROJECTS ANY TIME THERE IS AN ALLOCATION DONE APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. NOT JUST ONE PERSON. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT. >> WE UNDERSTAND AND WE ARE SO THANKFUL FOR THAT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THANK YOU. YOU ARE WELCOME. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. GROUP, THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>JUDGE CANALES: PURE COINCIDENCE, BUT ON A FESTIVAL THAT THE INSTITUTE KNOWS QUITE A BIT ABOUT. IT IS A SPECIAL DAY. SO OKAY THE NEXT ONE IS LOUIE RAY IS HERE TO DISCUSS THE EOC MONITORING AND PRESENTATION SYSTEM UPGRADES TO THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT. AND ALSO IN YOUR ATTACHMENT, LOUIE, CAN YOU BRIEFLY GIVE US THE BACKGROUND AS TO THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST AND HOW IT IS IMPORTANT IN THE WORK THAT YOU DO. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHERE IS THAT AT? >>JUDGE CANALES: EXCUSE ME ONE SECOND. INSIDE NUMBER 6. ALL THE ARPA ARE FOR 6. ALL THE ARPA ALLOCATIONS ARE IN ITEM NUMBER 6, BUT I BELIEVE IT IS ALSO ATTACHED. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WE DO ONE AT A TIME OR WHAT? >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM HAPPY TO DO THEM ALL, BUT I THOUGHT YOU WOULD WANT SOME INFORMATION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DID NOT SEE IT ATTACHED AND I MAY HAVE MISSED IT. I KNOW WHAT IT IS BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT ATTACHED. >>JUDGE CANALES: GO AHEAD LOUIE AND WHILE I LOOK FOR THE ATTACHMENT. SHE LEFT SO I CAN'T GIVE IT TO HER. GO AHEAD. >> GOOD MORNING, COURT. ONE OF THE THIS I THINK SO WE ARE FINDING OUT THAT WE NEED AN UPDATE AND UPGRADE TO OUR IDENTIFICATION SYSTEM. THE CURRENT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IS ABOUT 12 YEARS OLD. TECHNOLOGY HAS CHANGED A LOT. WE HAVE FOUR TELEVISIONS IN EOC. OF THOSE FOUR -- WE HAVE A TOTAL OF SEVEN, THREE ARE SMART TVS, FOUR ARE NOT. THEY HAVE OPERABILITY. WE ALSO HAVE A -- DON'T HAVE A MEANS OF HAVING A SPEAKER SYSTEM OR A MICROPHONE SYSTEM. AND WE ALSO NEED A -- A CAMERA SYSTEM TO KIND OF BROADCAST WHEN WE ARE HAVING OUR -- IN CASES THERE AN EMERGENCY OR A BIG EVENT IN THE EOC IS ACTIVATED. WE CAN SEE INSIDE THE EOC AND COMMUNICATE EFFECTIVELY. WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS UPGRADE THE SYSTEM SO BETTER INCREASE OUR INTEROPERABILITY TO MONITOR THOSE PEOPLE ON THE GROUND ACTUALLY RESPONDING TO DISASTERS AND GET PERTINENT INFORMATION INSIDE THE EOC AND SEND INFORMATION OUTSIDE THE EOC AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. THE MAIN GOAL WHEN PEOPLE ARE RESPONDING TO THE EOC AS PART OF THE RIDE OUT OR PART OF THE EMERGENCY SUPPORT FUNCTION, SO SIT IN THE EOC AS A PLUG AND PLAY. THEY CAN COME IN. SIT DOWN. ADDRESS WHATEVER ISSUE IS OUT THERE. SEND OUT PERTINENT INFORMATION. GET THAT INFORMATION BACK. AND BE ABLE TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO ANSWER TO THE PUBLIC AND TO THE STATE OF TEXAS, AS NEED BE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SO YOU HAVE A -- YOU ARE ASKING $150,000. SO YOU HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT EVERYTHING IS GOING TO COST? >> SO RIGHT NOW, COMMISSIONER, WE DON'T HAVE A LINE ITEM BREAKDOWN. WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF EVERYTHING THAT WILL PROBABLY NEED TO BE REPLACED WHICH INCLUDES THE TELEVISION. WHICH INCLUDES THE SYSTEMS THAT LINK ALL THE TELEVISIONS TOGETHER. IT WILL INCLUDE REPLACING THE SERVERS AS WELL. >>JUDGE CANALES: LOUIE, DID YOU GET A COST ESTIMATE? >> WE DID. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK COMMISSIONER NEEDS TO HEAR THAT. YOU DIDN'T JUST PULL THAT NUMBER OUT. YOU WENT AND GOT A COST ESTIMATE. >> COMMISSIONER, I AM SORRY YOU DON'T HAVE IT. I WILL MAKE SURE YOU GET IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: BELINDA TEXTED ME. IT IS IN HERE. ON LOUIE'S EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT UPGRADES, CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE IT IS LOCATED IN HERE? OR IF SOMEBODILINE, IF YOU HAVE I IT? >> IT'S UNDER NUMBER 6. IT IS -- WE PUT IT AN ESTIMATED $150,000. THAT IS THE ESTIMATE THAT WE HAVEY BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE RFP, HE DOESN'T WANT TO HAVE THE ACTUAL BREAKDOWN BECAUSE THOSE ARE PRICES THAT ARE NOT -- THEY ARE NOT IN THE REQUEST FOR [01:10:01] PROPOSAL. >>THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN IS A PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. SO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON THE $150,000. >>JUDGE CANALES: LOUIE, WE KNOW THAT IS A REAL NUMBER. >> YES. SO COMMISSIONER, WHAT WE DID WAS REACH OUT TO QUESTRON, THE PEOPLE WHO PUT THAT SYSTEM TOGETHER UPSTAIRS FOR REPAIRS. THEY CAME IN FOR A REPAIR. WE LOOKED AT IT. THE COST OF REPAIR WILL BE PROBABLY ABOUT THE SAME COST OF REPLACING. SO -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. I DON'T HAVE NO PROBLEM AT ALL. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CAST -- THE ITEMIZED COST. >> UNDERSTOOD, COMMISSIONER. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WILL BE $150,000. IT IS $100,000, WE SHOULD DO $100,000. >> THAT IS TRUE. UNDERSTOOD. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I DON'T MIND APPROVING DEPENDING ON THE CONTINGENCY SEEING A PROPOSAL WHAT IT WILL COST. I THOUGHT WE HAD TO GO TO RFQS WITH THE ARPA. >>JUDGE CANALES: RFP. THESE ARE NOT PROFESSIONALS. IT WOULD WOULD BE A RFP BECAUSE WOULD BE A SERVICE. THIS COMPANY MAY BE A SOLE SOURCE. LOUIE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH MICHAEL, AND CHANCES ARE WILL PUT IT IN THE FIELD AND LET THEM BID. >> WE TALKED YESTERDAY ABOUT THIS. AND I DON'T THINK IT CAN BE A SOLE SOURCE. THE REASON BEING THE EQUIPMENT. IT CAN REPLACED BY ANYBODY. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHY YOU DON'T HAVE IT. HE WENT TO THE COMPANY AND GO THE A VERY STRONG COST ESTIMATE. IT IS NOT IN HERE BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE BID OUT CORRECTLY. BUT WE THINK THAT AMOUNT IS ACCURATE BASED ON -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: CAN WE JUST BRING IT BACK WHEN IT IS ACCURATE. >>JUDGE CANALES: WELL, NO, IN ORDER TO GET THE RFP BY OUR OWN POLICY WE NEED A FUNDING SOURCE. TODAY IT IS -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: UP TO $150,000. >>JUDGE CANALES: UP TO. SAVE MONEY IF YOU CAN, LOUIE. BUT UP TO. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S USE THAT TERMINOLOGY. AGAIN IT WILL BE A RFP BECAUSE IT IS EQUIPMENT AND UPGRADES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SUGGEST TO VERIFICATION, SUBJECT TO -- WHAT DID YOU SAY, RFP. >>JUDGE CANALES: A LOW BID. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: MICHAEL WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE PROCUREMENT. LORENZO, MY MOTION -- LET'S SEE HOW WE WROTE IT HERE. MY MOTION IS TO FUND THE EOC'S MONITORING AND PRESENTATION UPGRADE THROUGH THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT. THE JULYCJ'S ALLEGATION UP TO $150,000 SUBJECT TO, OF COURSE, THE PROPER DOCUMENTATION AND VETTING WHICH HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH JUST SO YOU KNOW I AM REPRESENTING THAT WE HAVE DONE THAT. AND LOOK FOR THE PROCUREMENT AT A LATER DATE. LOOK FOR A SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I SECONDED IT, I THOUGHT. >>JUDGE CANALES: BRENT, DID YOU. SECOND BE COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. SUPER. THE NEXT ONE IS REALLY JUST LET ME ALLOW FOR A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION, BUT WE WILL BRING THIS BACK TO YOU. I KNEW THAT SCOTT -- I DIDN'T WANT SCOTT TO LEAVE. AND I FORGOT WHAT IT WAS, BUT NOW I KNOW -- I REMEMBER IT NOW. BUT BASICALLY JUST THAT -- AND THIS MIGHT INTEREST COMMISSIONER CHESNEY AS WELL, THE SEALIFE CENTER HAVE PRESENTED TO US A HUGE MASTER PLAN. YOU WILL REMEMBER THE SECTION SEALIFE CENTER IS A DEATH PENALTY NUECES FACILITY, A PROPERTY THAT WE OWN. AND THE FACILITY, BUT BOY DOES IT NEAT A LOT OF TLC. FACILITY, OWN. AND THE FACILITY, BUT BOY DOES IT NEAT A LOT OF TLC. THIEF HUGE MASTER PLAN. WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO FUND THE WHOLE MASTER PLAN BUT PIECES THAT SHOULD BE BROUGHT FORTH. AND THE QUESTION IS I HAD FOR SCOTT, THAT CONSIDERED INSIDE THE COASTAL PARKS SYSTEM OR -- OR NOT. BECAUSE IT IS A COUNTY FACILITY. AND SO -- I WAS -- I WAS HESITANT ON THAT. JUST SO YOU KNOW, I AM -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I THINK THEY RENT IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST RENT IT FROM US? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUST THE FACILITY. >>JUDGE CANALES: NEXT DOOR THE MAINTENANCE. SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS I SEE IT AS A COUNTY PROPERTY BUT I WANTED TO ASK EVERYBODY -- NOT EVERYBODY, BUT JENNY, JUST TO CONFIRM THE SEALIFE CENTER BOO WOULD BE -- AGAIN, I THINK WE CAN MAKE THE ALLOCATION JUST LIKE -- IT IS LIKE SAYING, HEY, I WANT TO UPGRADE ONE OF MY PARKS. SO I JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT -- WHAT -- COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IF YOU HAD ANY INTEREST IN THIS. SOMETHING THAT DURING WINTER STORM WE RECOGNIZED, WOW, WHAT AN INCREDIBLE REHAB FACILITY IT [01:15:02] IS, BUT NEEDS SO MUCH MODERNIZATION. AGAIN WHEN I LOOKED AT THE MASTER PLAN, IT WAS SO LARGE THAT I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO GO OTHER THAN TO SAY I WOULD LIKE TO GET THEM STARTED. WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IS TO HAVE THEM COME BACK AND SAY IF YOU CAN HELP WITH THIS ONE PIECE OF THIS, THIS WILL HELP US, LET'S SAY, GET ALL OF THE REHAB POOLS FIXED, RIGHT. BUT IT IS OUR FACILITY. SO IF WE -- WE NEED TO JUST MAKE THAT DISTINCTION. COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE. THE REASON I BRING IT UP, JENNY, IF IT IS A COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE AND ACTUALLY FIXING THE BUILDING. THAT WILL GO INTO OUR LOST REVENUE CALCULATION. OKAY. IF WE ARE DOING SOMETHING LIKE PUTTING THE TURTLE POOLS IN, THAT WILL FOLLOW THE CATEGORY OF THE 501-C-3 BENEFICIARY OF THE TEXAS SEALIFE CENTER. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> SO DO YOU HAVE -- DOES ENGINE HAVE A DESCRIPTION OF WHAT IT IS THAT THEY WANT TO DO? >>JUDGE CANALES: THEY WANT TO DO A LOT. I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT -- BY HOPING TO BRING IT UP TODAY, I WAS GOING TO SAY, HEY, IS THERE -- SINCE WE DON'T REALLY TALK ABOUT IT OTHER THAN IN COURT, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN INFRASTRUCTURE THERE. BECAUSE IMPROVING OUR COUNTY BUILDING WILL BE A GREAT THING. IT SO NEEDS IT, BUT MAY BE THAT IT IS BEST THAT WE HELP THEM WITH ONE OF THEIR ACTUAL. I AM GOING TO CALL IT THEIR REHAB COMPONENTS WHICH WOULDN'T NEED US AT ALL AND PASS ON AS A 501-C-3 SECTION TEA LIFE CENTER BUT I AM WILLING TO ALLOCATE A CERTAIN AMOUNT THAT THIS AMAZING FACILITY GET A JUMP START ON THAT MASTER PLAN. >> MAY BE THAT THE PROPERTY IS A PARKS BOARD. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS WHAT I JUST ASKED AND CHESNEY SAYS NO. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T THINK THEY RUN IT. >> RENTED BY A NONPROFIT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: OWNERSHIP -- BUT A SEPARATE DEAL AND THEY MAY LEASE FROM US AND NOT 100% SURE BECAUSE THEY REALLY OPERATE OUTSIDE -- NOT A LOT OF DEALINGS WITH THE PARKS BO BOARD. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T THINK IT IS UNDER THE PARKS BOARD'S PURVIEW AT ALL. >> THEY BROUGHT AN EXTENSION TO THE LEASE TO THE PARKS BOARD. >>JUDGE CANALES: WELL, WHAT I AM GOING TO DO -- AGAIN, TODAY IS MY DAY TO TELL YOU THEY HAVE A MASTER PLAN. I AM WILLING TO PUT FORTH -- THE MASTER PLAN IS $2.4 MILLION, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, I KNOW YOU HAVE SEEN A COPY OF IT FROM -- FROM THEM. IT NEEDS TO -- YOU KNOW, THAT BUILDING NEEDS OUR ATTENTION. IT'S NOT IN GOOD SHAPE. AND SO THAT IS IMPORTANT. YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT WE JUST MOVED THOSE FUEL TANKS FROM THERE. IN THE BACK. BUT IT IS A FANTASTIC OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ON THE ISLAND BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY JUST ANIMAL REHABILITATION. AND THEY WORK WITH ALL OF THE PARTNERS THAT YOU WOULD WANT THEM TO WORK WITH BUT THEY ARE THE ONES HELPING US ON OUR TURTLE RELEASES. SO I LIKE THIS IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO VET IT, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT, JENNY, WITHOUT HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. IF YOU HAVE SEEN A LEASE, THAT WILL HELP US GET STARTED. REMEMBER IF YOU ARE HELPING WITH THE BUILDING, THAT HAS GOT TO GO THIS WAY. HELPING WITH THE 501C 3 AND THEIR PROGRAMMING IS GOES THAT BY A. THAT IS WHY I AM BRINGING IT UP FOR OF THAT FURTHER DISCUSSION. AND I AM NOT GETTING LOVE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I WAS TRYING TO TALK. WAITING FOR YOU TO FINISH. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL YOU HAVE TO DO. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUST TRYING -- WAITING FOR YOU TO. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU FOR YOUR RUDE COMMENT. THE RUDE COMMENT CAME FROM MR. GONZALEZ. GO AHEAD. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MY ANSWER IS, I HAVE -- I AM WAITING FOR THE PROCESS. I HAVE GOT A BIG ALLOCATION THAT I AM GOING TO MAKE FOR CHARITIES, BUT I AM WAITING FOR THE PROCESS FROM THE COUNTY MANAGER WHICH I THOUGHT WE WERE ALL GOING TO DO AND SEE WHAT HER PROCESS IS AND THEN OPEN THE DOOR FOR ALL THE OTHER CHARITIES THAT I HAVE. AND I WILL MAKE A GENERAL ALLOCATION. I WAS JUST E-MAILING TO SEE HOW MUCH I HAVE LEFT. I WILL MAKE A GENERAL ALLOCATION ON -- HOPEFULLY THE NEXT MEETING WHEN I GET THE NUMBER AND ASKING FOR A WHILE WHAT MY ALLOCATIONS THAT I HAVE LEFT ARE. AND I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER. YES I HAVE AN INTEREST BUT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN FRONT OF ME. I SAW THE MASTER PLAN, BUT NOTHING IN FRONT OF ME WHAT THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY ASKING FOR. AND I WILL WAIT AND DO ALL MY CHARITIES AT ONE TIME LIKE -- BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE WHAT PROCESS SHE COMES BACK WITH SO I CAN DO A PROCESS. I AM NOT -- I AM JUST NOT WHERE TO DO IT TODAY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF BACKGROUND TODAY OR WHAT THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY [01:20:02] ASKING FOR AND WAITING FOR THE PROCESS -- FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: LIKE YOU SAID, COMING UP WITH -- I WANT TO MAYBE MIRROR THE PROCESS THAT THE COURT DOES FOR WHAT I WANT TO DO FOR THE ALLOCATION. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I DON'T WANT TO PROMISE ANYTHING UNTIL I KNOW FOR SURE. >>JUDGE CANALES: DO YOU HAVE A KEEP OF IT? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I HAVE SEEN A COPY OF THE MASTER PLAN. >>JUDGE CANALES: IDAY HAS IT. SEND IT TO EVERYBODY WITH THE SEALIFE CENTER. THEY HAVE A COMPLETE BREAKDOWN. THE REASON I CHOSE $250,000, BECAUSE A PIECE THAT HAS $260,000 RECOMMENDED. AGAIN, JUST REMEMBER WITH $1 MILLION, I HAVE SEEN IDAY AND YOU HAVE SEEN IT TOO AND IT WAS ON ORIGINALLY CIRCULATED WITH US WITH MILLION DOLLARS, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE CAPS OF, LIKE, $50,000. SO IN ORDER TO MAKE A MONUMENTAL IMPACT, IT WILL NOT COME FROM THE $1 MILLION. IT WILL COME FROM -- IN FACT I WOULD SAY IT WOULDN'T BE DUPLICATIVE. IT WOULD BE A BAD IDEA FOR A CHARITY TO RECEIVE FROM THE $1 MILLION BOT AND RECEIVE FROM THE CJ POT UNLESS THERE WAS SOME COMPELLING REASON. THOSE ARE MEANT FOR ZERO TO 50,000, RIGHT -- NOT ZERO, WITH YOU $1,000 TO $50,000. AND THIS IS TO CREATE MONUMENTAL CHANGE. MOST OF THE GOOD WORK DONE IN OUR COMMUNITY IS DONE BY 501-C-3S OR 4S OR 9S AND 14S. AND I THINK THE IDEA WILL BE -- THE SEALIFE CENTER'S BREAKDOWN WILL BE HELPFUL TO YOU AND ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS TO PUT ON THE RECORD THAT BEHALVES US AS A COUNTY FACILITY -- BEHOOVES US AS A COUNTY FACILITY. I AM INTERESTED BOTH IN INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, THEN, YOU KNOW, I WILL BE HAPPY TO WORK ON THEIR PROGRAMMING THE WAY THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED IT. I THINK IT WILL MAKE MORE SENSE FOR YOU TO GIVE IT A SOME THOUGHT TOO TO POOL OUR DOLLARS AND FUNDING IS SIGNIFICANCE KANLTD. T -- SIGNIFICANT. THEY HAVE A MASTER PLAN AND THEY HAVE BROKEN IT DOWN AND IT IS OUR FACILITY. AND IF THEY EXECUTE A NEW LEASE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: YOU DON'T KNOW IF IT BELONGS TO THE COASTAL PARKS? >>JUDGE CANALES: WE KNOW IT IS A COUNTY BUILDING, AND THE USE GOES TO COASTAL PARKS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: COASTAL PARKS CONTROLS IT? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: IF THE LEASE GOES TO THEM, I WOULD ASSUME SO. >>JUDGE CANALES: WILL YOU BE SO KIND TO TEXT SCOTT CROSS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, IF YOU WANT TO DO WHY US TODAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: IF YOU WILL GIVE IT THOUGHT. I WILL SWIFT IT IF YOU THINK IT IS BEST TO GO TO INFRASTRUCTURE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T KNOW YET. >>JUDGE CANALES: IF YOU DO, LET'S WORK TOGETHER ON THAT. BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL BE BETTER TO POOL IT. WE WILL DO IT TODAY BUT I AM OPEN TO SWITCHING IT IF YOU THINK THERE IS SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MY INCLINATION ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE. IT HAS BEEN A WHILE. WE DO THAT LEASE AND NOT A HIGH DOLLAR LEASE BECAUSE NOT A HIGH DOLLAR BUILDING. SO MY -- MY GUT INSTINCT IS IF YOU ARE GOING TO IMPROVE THE FRASZ, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A DUTY TO INCREASE THE LEASE. SO I WOULD HAVE AN INCLINATION TO SAY MAYBE PROGRAM. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL I AM GOING TO DO IS MY MOTION IS TO FUND -- ALL SUBJECT TO THE TEXAS SEALIFE CENTER FOR PROGRAMMING AS OUTLINED BY THEIR MASTER PLAN FOR $250,000 FROM THE COUNTY JUDGE ARPA AND SUBJECT TO THE VETTING WHICH I HAVE ALREADY DONE, SUBJECT TO THE VETTING AND MORE IMPORTANTLY I AM ALWAYS OPEN TO AMEND AT A LATER DATE IF A MORE CONSOLIDATED PROGRAM BECOMES AVAILABLE. OK OKAY. IF YOU WILL SECOND THAT COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. BY THE WAY, IF YOU ALL HAVE NEVER BEEN OUT THERE, I DON'T BLAME YOU, BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE JUST PASSED IT. IT IS FANTASTIC. YOU SHOULD GO CHECK IT OUT AND SEE SEA TURTLES. I AM TALKING NOT JUST COMMISSIONERS BUT THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING OUT THERE. TAKE YOUR KIDS AND SEE SEA TURTLES BEING REHABBED RIGHT HERE IN OUR BACK YARD. I KNOW THE AQUARIUM DOES IT AS WELL, BUT A VERY AMAZING -- SO [01:25:02] CLOSE TO THE BEACH, THAT THEY ACTUALLY HOST THE RELEASES FROM TIME TO TIME RIGHT ON PADRE ISLAND. PRETTY COOL STUFF. IT IS 10:20 AND I AM STILL WAITING, GUYS, FOR THE WHOLE GROUP. I WILL GO TO ANOTHER ONE AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK. WILL YOU DOUBLE CHECK IT. I THOUGHT I SAW THEM HERE. I SAW ROBERT. OKAY. [4. Discuss and consider approval of the Project Team's recommendation of the Top 15 Preliminary Flood Risk Areas identified for further analysis for the TWDB Tri-County Drainage Master Plan Study.] I AM GOING TO CALL THE ONE WE SKIPPED. ITEM NUMBER 4, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT TEAM'S RECOMMENDATION OF THE TOP 15 PRELIMINARY FLOOD RISK AREAS IDENTIFIED FOR FURTHER ANALYSIS FOR THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN STUDY. AND COMING IN ARE OUR TEAM. AND YOU GUYS HAVE A COPY OF WHAT IS TITLED TABLE 1. BUT LET'S LOOK AT IT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I WAS GOING TO MOVE TO TABLE THAT ONE AND REMOVE THE WORD "PROJECT" I THINK IT WILL BE OKAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T THINK THERE IS A WORD PROJECT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SAYS PROJECT TEAM RECOMMENDATION. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE PROJECT TEAM IS JUST -- SUSAN, IT'S NOT -- THE TEAM IS -- >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I UNDERSTAND. WE MET WITH CITIZENS AND WE HAD A REAL GOOD MEETING AND CAME OUT WITH REAL GOOD RESULTS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE AGREED THAT THE WORD "PROJECT" WOULDN'T BE LISTED ANYWHERE OF THE AREA OF -- RISK AREA FLOOD AREAS THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING. SO NOT GET CONFUSED AS FAR AS PROJECTS AND FLOOD RISK AREAS. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE AGREE. WE AGREE WITH YOU. JUST SO -- THE WORD "PROJECT" REFERS TO THEM, THE TRI-COUNTY DRAINAGE PROJECT. DOESN'T -- THE WORDS YOU WANT ARE THERE. PRELIMINARY FLOOD RISK AREAS. THE ONLY WORD "PROJECT" REFERS TO THE GROUP OF PEOPLE. NOT THE PROJECT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUST AMEND. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST TAKE IT AWAY. JUST SO YOU KNOW -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE OUT THE WORD "PROJECT." >> STUDY TEAM. >>JUDGE CANALES: CALL IT THE STUDY TEAM. STUDY TEAM. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHATEVER. SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T SAY PROJECT. >>JUDGE CANALES: DRAINAGE STUDY TEAM. >> OR TECHNICAL TEAM. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S FINE. LET'S CA YOU WILL IT THE DRAINAGE TECHNICAL TEAM. OKAY. SO THE APPROVAL OF THE DRAINAGE TECHNICAL TEAM'S RECOMMENDATION OF THE TOP 15 PRELIMINARY FLOOD RISK AREAS IDENTIFIED FOR FURTHER ANALYSIS FOR THE TWDB TRI-COUNTY DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN STUDY. IT IS ITEM NUMBER 4. IF YOU LOOK UNDER YOUR NOTEBOOK, YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS ALL THE MAPS. AND YOU WILL SEE THERE IS A TABLE, CONNIE. ANY WAY YOU CAN BRING THIS UP? AND JUST SO YOU KNOW THE WORD "PROJECT" DOES NOT APPEAR ANYWHERE, PRELIMINARY IDENTIFIED FLOOD RISK AREAS. AND SUSAN, THIS IS THE ONE I AM HOLDING UP. AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT THE TECHNICAL TEAM IS RECOMMENDING AFTER REVIEWING WITH COMMISSIONERS. >> THAT'S CORRECT, JUDGE, YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME TO COME AND VISIT WITH Y'ALL. I APPRECIATE IT, ESPECIALLY ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, AND JUDGE, YOU AS WELL, JUST VISITING WITH EACH OF YOU ALL. OUR TEAM I WANT TO RECO RECOGNIZE HALFF&ASSOCIATES. JOSH LOGAN, THEIR LEAD PROJECT MANAGER AND KELSEY AND ROBERT SCHULTZ AND OTHERS WITH OUR TEAM. AND SO JUST AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE THIS TIME TO COME BEFORE Y'ALL. AND BASED ON WHY YOU ARE FEEDBACK AND INFORMATION THAT YOU ALL EACH SHARED, THE REVISED TABLE 1 REFLECTS THOSE REVISIONS AND THOSE ARE THE -- I WANT TO SAY THE TIER 1. WE ARE NOT RANKING THEM AS WE DISCUSSED, BUT THEY ARE PRIORITIZED IN TIER 1. THOSE 15 FLOOD RISK AREAS. AND THOSE AREAS WILL BE FURTHER EVALUATED BY MY -- BY THE TECHNICAL TEAM. AND WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU ALL, GOSH, PROBABLY EARLY FEBRUARY -- EARLY FEBRUARY, MID FEBRUARY WITH SOME REGIONAL AND SUB REGIONAL IMPROVEMENTS TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL. AND THAT WILL BE ALL DONE IN ADVANCE BEFORE WE HAVE PUBLIC MEETING NUMBER FOUR. >>JUDGE CANALES: THIS IS THE LIST. THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS LIST OF PRELIMINARY FLOOD RISK AREAS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: TO STUDY. >>JUDGE CANALES: SAYS FOR FURTHER ANALYSIS FOR THE STUDY. >> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION AT ALL? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHAT WAS THE MOTION AND THE SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE MOTION WAS [01:30:03] TO ACCEPT THIS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: OKAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: REFLECTS -- SUSAN SAID WHEN YOU WERE OUT, ALL OF THE CONVERSATIONS SHE HAD WITH EACH OF US. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: LET ME LOOK SO QUICK. I NEVER SEEN ANYTHING GO SO FAST. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHILE YOU ARE DOING THAT. I AM READING INTO THE RECORD, LORENZO, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU. IT HAS GOT AUDIO, BANQUETE, LA PALOMA. ROBSTOWN, SOUTH ROBSTOWN FLOOD RISK, CALLICOATE FARM AREA, FM 1694 AND NORTHWEST 44. FIESTA RANCH FLOOD RISK, BALCHUCK FLOOD RISK AREA, NOTTINGHAM ACRES FLOOD RISK AREA, INDIAN TRAILS FLOOD RISK AREA. THAT IS FOR THE RECORD. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I AM GOOD, JUDGE, THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >>COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: YES, JUDGE. WE SPENT LAST WEEK TALKING ABOUT THIS. BUT NUANCED, IT IS WORDING, BUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE NORTH ROBSTOWN, FLOOD RISK AREA AND SOUTH. I KNOW IT SHOWS THE DELINEATION BETWEEN THE TWO AREAS OF FOCUS OR CONCERN. WE KNOW THERE IS ONE AREA THAT HAD CERTAIN -- TECHNICALLY ROBSTOWN ADDRESS BUT REALITY NOT CITY OF ROBSTOWN. AND THEY HAD THEIR OWN ISSUE AND WE HAD MANY OF THEIR RESIDENTS COME HERE BEFORE US AND SOUTH I ASSUME MORE OF THE CITY OF ROBSTOWN. BUT TO HELP ME CLARIFY AGAIN, THERE WERE OTHER AREAS THAT I -- THAT I REPRESENTED TO YOU WILL YOU ALL THAT YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF THAT I WANTED TO INCLUDE. IS THAT HERE OR ANOTHER GROUP FOR STUD STUDY? BECAUSE THERE ARE THE AREAS OF BLUE BONNET AND WE RECOGNIZE THE LAST TIME YOU ARE HERE IN A SEPARATE GROUP OF ITSELF. >> COMMISSIONER, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION AND WE APPRECIATED YOUR FEEDBACK WHEN WE VISITED LAST FRIDAY. OUR STUDY -- AGAIN THESE ARE GENERAL AND LARGE. THERE IS A CATEGORY 2 FLOOD STUDY THAT SIZE INVOLVED WITH AND SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING THROUGH THE CDBG THAT YOU HAVE ALLOCATED FOR THE AREA AS WELL. AND THIS THIRD COMPONENT BLUE BONNET. >> BLUE BONNET AND OTHER AREAS TO THE WEST SIDE OF ROBSTOWN WILL BE INCLUDED WITH AT I MALL IN SIS WITH THE SOUTH AND POSSIBLY THE NORTH. LIKE I SAID THOSE AREAS -- WE KIND OF MADE BIG CIRCLES TO MAKE SURE WE COVERED IT AND HAVE THE IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ANYTHING WE COME UP WITH MR. COMPLEMENT THOSE. >> ALL PIECES OF THE PUZZLE. IF PEOPLE ARE WATCHING WONDER WHAT IS -- IN MY PRIORITY THE JUDGE AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THOSE AREAS AND WE HAVE BEEN OUT TO ALL THE MEETINGS IN THE ROBSTOWN, BANQUETE AND THOSE AREAS. >> THOSE EFFORTS ARE GOING TO HELP AND THE ONES ONGOING AND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS FURTHER COMPLEMENT THOSE ALONG WITH PICKING UP MORE BENEFIT. >> I AM ON BOARD. I FELT IT WAS WORTH ADDRESSING IN CASES THERE ANY CONFUSION. >> THAT GOES FOR SOME OF THE OTHER ONES AND SIMILAR PROJECTS IN THE AREA. >>JUDGE CANALES: LIKE IF CASA BLANDA AND BLUE BONNET. IN THAT SAME VAIN, WE HAVE PARTNERS, AND GREAT PARTNERS, CLAYBURG, WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT TOP 31 PROJECTS -- WELL, NOT PROJECTS, THE LIST OF 31 THAT WENT UP TO TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD FLEW THE NRA, THOSE ALSO HELP TO ADDRESS, IF YOU WILL, THE CLAY BBURG. >> THAT'S CORRECT, THE LIST OF 30 OF THE FLOOD RISK LABELED PETRONILLA CREEK AND FOCUS AND SEDIMENTATION AND EROSION CONTROL AND ADDRESSED WITHIN THE STUDY AND THAT IS THE REASON IT MOVED LOWER ON THE PRIORITY LIST. [01:35:06] >>JUDGE CANALES: VERY GOOD. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR NEIGHBORS IN THE STUDY WERE INCLUDED AND THE TOP 15 PRIORITY AREAS. LIKEWISE WITH JIM WELLS, THEY HAVE A MORE UNIQUE BECAUSE THE CITY OF ALICE IS NOT IN OUR WATERSHED. >> CORRECT. >>JUDGE CANALES: AND AREA EAST -- NORTH AND EAST THE ORANGE GROVE AREA, A SLIVER IN THERE, IF YOU WILL THAT WILL BE LOOKED AT MOST LIKELY. >> FOR JIM WELLS, THEY WERE DETERMINING THIS EARLY ON WITH THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT. AS YOU KNOW, THE SMALLER COMPONENT WHEN IT COMES TO CASH CONTRIBUTION AND IN KIND BECAUSE OF THEIR -- NOT BECAUSE OF THE SMALLER ROLE IN A SENSE. THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THEY ARE AT THE VERY TOP OF THE WATER SHED AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE HYDROLOGY TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH FLOW. HOW MUCH WATER IS CONTRIBUTING FROM THEIR COUNTY, FROM THEIR AREA IN THE NORTHERN PART OF BAFFIN BAY AS IT ENTER INTO NUECES AND GOES THROUGH CLAYBURG. THEY HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE, BUT, AGAIN, WE ARE FOCUSING MORE ON THE HYDROLOGY. AND HALLFF AND ASSOCIATES WILL BE DOING ADDITIONAL MAPPING FOR THEM. AND THERE WILL BE WORK PROJECTS PROVIDED TO THEM AFTER THE STUDY IS COMPLETDOING ADDITIONAL MAPP THEM. AND THERE WILL BE WORK PROJECTS PROVIDED TO THEM AFTER THE STUDY IS COMPLETE. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: CAN WE GET A COPY OF THIS. >> OF THE -- HE. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: OF THE PRESENTATION ON THE SCREEN. >> THESE MAPS -- WE CAN GET IT TO YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: CONNIE, JUST GET IT FOR EVERYBODY. >> WE WILL PACKAGE UP THE DELIVERABLES FOR EVERYBODY. JIM WELLS. THE UPPER PART OF THE WATERSHED. WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE QUANTITY OF WATER IN THE MAJOR STORM EVENTS OF BANQUETE A AND PETRANILLA CREEK. THE HYDROLOGY MODELS TO USE AS ORANGE GROVE CONTINUE TO GROW. THINGS LIKE THAT. WE DID -- IN ORDER TO MAKE A COMPLETE MAPPING OF THE STUDY AREA WE WENT AHEAD TO MAP IT AS WELL. THAT IS WHERE THE WORK PRODUCT FOR JIM WELLS. UNDERSTANDING OF THE STUDY AND THE WATER FROM THE UPPER PART OF THE BASIN. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THAT, THEY CAN USE THE DATA FOR THE FUTURE GRANT. >> SAME AS THE MODELS WE ARE PROVIDING TO THE COUNTY AND YOU GUYS. YOU GOT MUCH BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND SOMETHING YOU CAN BUILD OFF OF WITH A MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT AND TAKE OUR MODELS AND SHOW US THE IMPACTS. >>JUDGE CANALES: SEEMS LIKE GROWTH IS MOVING THAT CATEGORY AND SEEMS LIKE VERY IMPORTANT TO DO. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. OKAY, GUYS, THANKS SO AS MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS. I KNOW MEETING WITH EVERYBODY MAKES EVERYBODY FEEL INCLUDED AND GETS US ON THE RIGHT TEAM. AND NOW WE KNOW WE WILL CALL YOU THE DRAINAGE TECHNICAL TEAM. YOU HAVE A NEW NAME. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH I CAN'T ARE, Y'ALL. AND PREWREESH 1998 YOUR TIME AND FEEDBACK. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE HAVE JUAN [1. Discuss and consider funding source for the Nueces County Jail Steel Wall Repair Project.] HERE. FOUR ITEMS, A JUAN, LET'S MOVE TO ALL FOUR OF YOURS RIGHT NOW.O ALL FOUR OF YOURS RIGHT NOW. LISTED B 1-4. FIRST ONE A FUNDING SOURCE FOR THE JAIL WALL PROCESS. >> JUDGE, GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. WE WANTED TO BRING -- BRING IT TO COURT THAT THE STEEL WALLS IN THE JAIL NEED TO BE REPAIRED. AND WE ARE ASKING FOR COMMISSIONERS COURT TO HELP PAY FOR THE STEEL WALL. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HE IS ASKING FOR FUNDING. DO WE HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE? >> WE NEED A FUNDING SOURCE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I SPOKE TO IDAY AND SHE JUST WALKED OUT. SUFFICIENT DOLLARS IN CO # 1 UNALLOCATED AND WOULD LIKE FOR HER TO CONFIRM WHEN SHE WALKS BACK IN. AND YOU HAVE A COST ESTIMATE. YOU HAVE A RANGE. NOT AN ESTIMATE, BUT A RANGE. >> YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE A RANGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT IS THAT RANGE? [01:40:02] >> WE ESTIMATED ABOUT $200,000 RIGHT NOW, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS THE NUMBER I WAS GIVEN. IF YOU WILL JUST WAIT FOR HER. I AM FAIRLY CERTAIN THAT -- OR IF YOU WANTED TO, WE COULD. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: MAKE A MOTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ADD TO CO 21 UNALLOCATED. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: DO WE HAVE THAT? >>JUDGE CANALES: WE BELIEVE WE DO FROM THE GENERATOR PROJECT. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: AMEND THE MOTION SUBJECT TO THE ALLOCATION -- AVAILABILITY OF UNALLOCATED CO 25021. >> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: WE SAY UNALLOCATED 2021. >>JUDGE CANALES: LIKE THE GENERATOR PROJECT. WE GAVE IT SO MUCH MONEY. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NOT REALLY UNALLOCATED BUT UNSPENT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THROWS ME OFF. WHAT ARE WE NOT ALLOCATING. UNSPENT -- OKAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE ARE TALKING OF THE JAIL STEEL WALL REPAIR. HAS A COST RANGE OF $200,000. AT LEAST WE WANT TO EARMARK THAT KIND OF MONEY TO REPAIR THESE STEEL WALLS. YOU AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT UNSPENT -- THERE YOU GO. >> I PROVIDE THIS. >>JUDGE CANALES: CO 21. >>THE CO 21 IS 1995. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I GOT HANDED THIS BEFORE I WALKED IN. WHAT AM I LOOKING AT? PAGE 2 -- YOU DON'T. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: OUT OF PRECINCT 4. >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NOT JUST -- I DO APPRECIATE THIS. THIS IS AWESOME. I THINK WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS JUST THE GENERAL -- THE GENERATOR PROJECT. ALLOCATED $8 MILLION. ONLY SPENT MILLION -- >> FOR THE GENERATORS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM THERECO 21. >>JUDGE CANALES: FROM THE 2021. YOU AND I TALKED THAT EXTRA MONEY IN THE 2021 COS. >> THE 2021 IS 1925. THOSE ARE PROBABLY DIFFERENT, JUDGE, BUT YOU ARE REFERRING TO THAT ONE. BECAUSE 2021, YOU SEE UNDER. >>JUDGE CANALES: THIS IS NO NOT APPLICABLE. WE ARE NOT USING OUR PRECINCT FUNDS. I AM ASKING YOU IF 2021 COS ARE AVAILABLE FOR ALL THE PROJECTS. >> CORRECT. FOR WHAT WAS REMAINING FOR THE OTHER PROJECT WE REALLOCATED. AND WILL GET FROM THOSE FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HOW MUCH IS IN THIS UNALLOCATED OR UNSPENT FUND. UNALLOCATED IS FINE, BUT REALLY WAS WE ALLOCATE IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: DIDN'T USE IT ALL. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HOW MUCH IS IN THAT FUND? >>JUDGE CANALES: HE IS ASKING YOU. >> I AM LOOKING INTO THAT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WE COME IN HERE AND DOING THIS. I ASSUME IT IS OKAY BUT I WANT SOMEBODY TO SHOW ME WHERE THAT FUND BALANCE IS, HOW MUCH IT IS, AND. >>JUDGE CANALES: A REALLY GOOD TERESA QUESTION. SHE IS NOT HERE TODAY, BUT WE CAN DO IT SUBJECT TO THE 21S. BUT I CAN -- >> LET ME GET THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT NUMBER. THAT TODAY. LET ME RUN THE NUMBER. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SO CAN WE PASS ON THIS ONE RIGHT NOW. [2. Discuss and consider approval of Change Order No. 1 for the Nueces County Courthouse ADA Improvements and Upgrades Project.] >>JUDGE CANALES: BUT I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE ARE HEAD. THE NEXT ONE IS A CHANGE ORDER FOR THE ADA IMPROVEMENT AND UPDATE PROJECT. ITEM NUMBER 2. THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. >> YES, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. INCREASE -- NOT AN INCREASE, WE HAVE SOME ALLOCATED MONIES THAT ARE IN THERE FOR CONTINGENCIES AND PLAN TO USED 127,000 -- LET ME PUT 80987 OUT OF THE CONTINGENCIES. MONIES ALLOCATED. >>JUDGE CANALES: DEFINE THE WORK FOR THE RECORD. >> THIS IS TO INCREASE THE THREE WHEELCHAIR LIFTS ON THE FOURTH AND FIFTH FLOOR, SOME ADDITIONAL WALLS AND CEILINGS AND FINISHES THAT NEED TO BE DONE. AND 13 ADA AUTOMATIC DOOR OPENERS. [01:45:01] REST ROOM ACCESSORIES. AND SOME ADDITIONAL FLOOR AND 3.015 AND 3.014. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SPENDING MORE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SPEND MORE WHAT WAS ORIGINAL BUDGETED. AND USING THE CONTINGENCY FOR UPGRADES FOR ADA. >> YES. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT'S FINE. >>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION AND A SECOND BY GONZALEZ. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? [3. Discuss and consider approval of Change Order No. 2 for the Nueces County Courthouse ADA Improvements and Upgrades Project.] ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. ALSO ITEM NUMBER 3, WHICH IS A CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 2. IT IS ALSO LISTED IN THE SAME FASHION. IT ALSO COMES FROM CONTINGENCIES, I BELIEVE. >> THIS ONE, JUDGE, A REDUCTION TO THE CONTRACT. FOR WINDSTORM INSURANCE. AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS GIVING US A CREDIT $4R7,000 -- LET ME LOOK REAL QUICK,000 -- L ME LOOK REAL QUICK4,000 -- LET ME LOOK REAL QUICK7,000 -- LET ME LOOK REAL QUICK. >>JUDGE CANALES: SHOULD HAVE RAID A DEDUCTIVE. >> 47,177. WE ARE GETTING A CREDIT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONDUCTIVE CHANGE ORDER FOR THE ADA. A SECOND BY HERNANDEZ IN THE AMOUNT OF $47,000. IF COMES FROM -- IT COMES FROM WINDSTORM CERTIFICATION. >> YES, MA'AM, FOR THE INSURANCE. >>JUDGE CANALES: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. [4. Discuss and consider extending the Calderon Clinic Renovations Project completion date to December 30, 2022.] OKAY. NOW WE ARE GOING TO GO TOCALDER BUILDING AND YOU HAVE EXTENSIONS. >> WE ARE REQUESTING AN EXTENSION IN THE CONTRACT TO DECEMBER 30. EVERYTHING IS ON SCHEDULE FOR THE PROJECT. THE ONLY THING IS THE DOORS -- THEY ARE PLANNING TO GET THEM THE FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER SO GIVING THEM MORE TIME TO DO THE FINISHES ON THE DOORS TO DO THE PUNCH LIST ITEMS. SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO THE 30TH. THE PROJECT WILL BE DONE BY MID-DECEMBER ONCE WE GET THE DOORS BY THE FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: TIME ONLY, NO COSTS. >>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION BY MAREZ. AND A SECOND BY GONZALEZ. NO OTHER DISCUSSION, THEN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THE NEXT MEETING, CAN WE GET AN UPDATE HOW WE ARE DOING WITH THE BUILDING AND HOW IT IS LOOKING AND EVERYTHING. >> I WILL BRING A PRESENTATION TO COURT, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU. WHAT WE HAVE LEFT THAT IS NOT IN EXECUTIVE IS RECEIVING AN UPDATE FROM THE PROJECT MANAGER ON THE [10. Discuss and consider next Commissioners Court meeting date.] BOILER INSTALLATION PROJECT. AND THEN ALSO, JUST SO I CAN GET IT OUT OF THE WAY, THE -- THE NEXT MEETING DATE IS NOVEMBER 16. THAT IS CORRECT? IS THAT -- CAN SOMEONE CONFIRM? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT'S CORRECT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WANT TO SAY FOR THE RECORD ON ITEM NUMBER 10, THE NEXT ONE IS NOVEMBER 16. THAT IS A WEDNESDAY. AND THAT IS A REGULAR AGENDA. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, I HAVE A -- I HAVE A MOTION TO MAKE ON NUMBER 8 THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO GO BACK INTO MORE LEGAL DISCUSSION ON WHENEVER -- IF YOU WOULD BE FOLLOWING ENTERTAIN THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: AS LONG AS SOMEBODY DOESN'T HAVE A LEGAL -- >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I HAVE A QUESTION. AND I AM NOT SURE IF IT WILL BE LEASE SO I WOULD RATHER ASK -- I PROMISE THAT WILL BE JUST REAL QUICK YES OR NO. BUT IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULDN'T BE DISCUSSED OUT HERE, I WOULD RATHER IT BE DONE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I CAN ASK YOU OFF LINE AND VOTE ON IT REAL QUICK. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT WILL BE GREAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL RECESS FOR THREE MINUTES BECAUSE IT IS -- WE ARE IN RECESS. 10:47. A GOOD BATHROOM BREAK IF ANYBODY WANTS >>JUDGE CANALES: LET'S GO BACK ON THE RECORD. [7. Receive update from Project Manager on boiler installation project in Nueces County Courthouse complex, and related matters.] 10:53 A.M. BACK FROM A QUICK RECESS. THE ITEM LISTED ON THE AGENDA AS NUMBER 7 AND BOILER PROJECT IN THE JAIL. AND SHANE, DO YOU HAVE A POWERPOINT OR IS IT -- >> I DO NOT. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST VERBAL? >> JUST VERBAL, YOUR HONOR. >>JUDGE CANALES: IF YOU HAVE ANY HANDOUTS OR ANYTHING, LET US KN KNOW. [01:50:01] >> OKAY. CURRENTLY CLEAVER BROOKS HAS BEEN ON-SITE YESTERDAY WORKING ON THE MIXING WATER. THE DISCHARGE TEMPERATURE IS DOWN TO A SAFE LEVEL FOR THE PIPING. THIS PROJECT SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY THIS AFTERNOON. ALSO, THE SCANNING OF THE PIPING IS SCHEDULED TO BEGIN AND HANDLED BY PROVISION WITH A DURATION OF FIVE DAYS. ABM HAS CONFIRMED THIS WORK IS STARTING TOMORROW, NOVEMBER 3, 2022. ABM REACHED OUT TO OTHER ENTITIES RECOMMENDED BY RON WHEATON, THE ENGINEER ON RECORD, AND THAT CONTRACT DID NOT RETURN ABM'S CALL. ALSO, ABM WALKED THE SITE WITH PREVISION NDT LLC AND REVIEWED ALL PIPES TO BE SCANNED. PRECISION NDT FEEL THIS TEST ALSO TAKE FIVE DAYS. WE ARE THEN ANTICIPATING THAT A REPORT WILL FOLLOW WITHIN TWO TO THREE BUSINESS DAYS OF COMPLETED TESTING. LAN AND RON WHEATON, ENGINEER OF RECORD WALKED AND REVIEWED THE PIPING. AND AN ENGINEER OF RECORD GENERATED A REPORT THAT WAS SHARED TO EVERYONE. THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE COMPLETED BY THE CONTRACTOR TO MATCH THE CONTRACT DRAWINGS AND SOME VALVES THAT ARE LEAKING THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT AND REVIEWED, POSSIBLY BY THE COUNTY. LAN AND RON WHEATON, THE ENGINEER ON RECORD LAID TO TO REACH OUT TO THE STATE INSPECTOR TO GET CLARIFICATION ON E-MAIL FROM LAST WEEK AND HAVE NOT RECEIVED A RESPONSE FROM -- AS OF THIS COMMISSIONERS COURT TODAY; HOWEVER, I AM TO UNDER STAND AND TALKING WITH ABM THIS MORNING. ABM, THE -- THE STATE INSPECTOR, JOHN AND BRYANT AND BUY BUYERS MECHANICA ALL HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE BOILERS. I DON'T KNOW THE EXTENT OF ALL THAT YET. BUT I WAS JUST TOLD THAT JUST BEFORE WALKING IN THE DOOR HERE. CURRENTLY FROM THE STATE INSPECTOR'S OWN LEVEL, ABM GIVEN UNTIL NOVEMBER 24, 2022 TO HAVE THE TESTING REPORT IN AND STARTED ANY CORRECTIONS NEEDED TO BE MADE. ALSO, SIX MONTHS AGO, JCI INSTALLED THE FINAL CONTROLS AND GRAPHICS OBJECT THE BOILERS 3. AND HAD 1 AND 2 UP IN METASIS FOR A YEAR. THIS SHOWS THE BOILERS ON AND OFF AND IF THEY ARE IN ALARM. THAT WAS CONFIRMED THIS MORNING WITH JCI. ALSO, YESTERDAY, RON WHEATON SENT ME LATE LAST NIGHT WHICH I WILL BE SHARING WITH EVERYBODY TODAY THAT ALL NEW STEAMLINE PRESSURE PIPING CONNECTED BETWEEN THE BOILER AND THE EXISTING MAIN STEAM VALVES WERE HYDRO TESTED AT 100 PSI FOR A ININ MUM TIME OF ONE HOUR. BETWEEN THE MAIN BUILDING VOLUME OF AND THE PHALANGE. AND DATE-STAMPED RECORDS ARE ATTACHED TO HIS REPORT. ALL HYDRAULIC ON MARCH 14 AND 2 21. UPDATE ON THE BOILERS WHERE IT STANDS RIGHT NOW. >>JUDGE CANALES:S IN IN YOUR LINE OF WORK, YOU SAID A LOT OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND. YOU IDENTIFIED IN YOUR FIRST SENTENCE THE NAME OF A COMPANY AND THE MAV OF MANUFACTURER'S REPRESENTATIVE. >> THE TESTING COMPANY WILL DO THE PRESSURE TO THE LINES THAT WAS REQUESTED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. >>JUDGE CANALES: IF YOU GO BACK TO YOUR NOTES BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ARE READING. YOU STARTED OFF BY LISTING A NA >> YES, ONE SECOND HERE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I THINK IT WAS AN INSPECTOR HE TALKED ABOUT. >> OH, CLEAVER BROOKS. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S CORRECT. >> CLEAVER BROOKS IS A REPRESENTATIVE OF BRYANT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THEY ARE. >> ONE OF THE BOILER TECHNICIANS CERTIFIED TO WORK ON THE BOILER SYSTEM. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WANT TO MAKE SURE. IT IS HARD TO HAVE CONTEXT. I KNOW AND PEOPLE DON'T. AND YOU SAY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS TESTING DONE IN THE NEXT FIVE DAYS, YOU SAY THEY ARE SCANNING THE PIPES. [01:55:02] DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS? >> SURE, THEY ARE GOING TO UT TEST THE PIPES. THEY HAVE A CERTAIN CRITERIA AND DIRECTION WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO AND SPACING THAT WILL BE DONE ON ALL THE PIPING THAT WILL BE CONNECTED WITH THE BOILER S SYSTEM. THIS WILL RUN DOWN THE PIPING THAT RUNS DOWN TO ROOM 120 IN THE JAIL. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT WILL BE DONE AND HAVE THE REPORT IN FIVE DAYS. >> THE TESTING WILL TAKE FIVE DAYS AND THE REPORT TWO TO THREE DAY AFTER THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: IN ABOUT EIGHT DAYS WE WILL HAVE A REPORT ON THE PIPES. >> CORRECT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN FLAGGED, IF YOU WILL, AS PLEASE TEST. THAT IS WHAT THE STATE LICENSING AND REGULATORY INSPECTOR SAID. I AM GIVING YOU UNTIL NOVEMBER 24 TO GET THESE PIPES TESTED AND LET US KNOW. AND THERE IS -- AND THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE DONE, THAT'S CORRECT? >> THIS IS CORRECT. >> WE TAKE EIGHT DAY FROM TODAY, NOVEMBER 2, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN NOVEMBER 10 AND 11, YOU WILL CERTAINLY BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK IMMEDIATELY IF THERE IS ANY -- ANYTHING THAT COMES OUT DETRIMENTAL. IF NOT NOTHING DETRIMENTAL. WE WILL SEE YOU BACK ON NOVEMBER 16 AND YOU WILL GIVE US ANOTHER PRESENTATION ON THIS REPORT. >> THAT'S CORRECT, YOUR HONOR. IS I RECEIVE THE INFORMATION ON THE REPORT, I WILL SHARE IT WITH EVERYBODY. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. THAT WILL BE MY NEXT QUESTION. THAT -- THIS IS PRESENTATION ONLY -- >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: EXCUSE ME, JUDGE, I HAVE A QUESTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL HAVE FOLKS BY ASKING QUESTIONS. AND THEN I WILL CALL ON YOU. COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: SHANE, HOW LONG HAS THE COMPANY BEEN ON THE PROJECT, THE ONE YOU REFERRED TO. >> CLEAVER BROOKS HAS BEEN ON THIS PROJECT MANY TEAMS. BUYERS MECHANICAL, THEY CALL CLEAVER BROOKS TO DEAL WITH THE BOILER ITSELF. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: WHAT I AM ASKING -- YOU SAID OFF AND ON. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE THEY BEEN ON? >> I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS WITH ME RIGHT NOW. BUT I CAN GENERATE THAT. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: IF YOU WOULD. I WEESH APPRECIATE IT. OFF ANAND ON. >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: STATS I AM LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW COME FROM THE STATE, TERRY HEWITT. BOILER INSPECTOR TOO? >> HE IS. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: HE IS THE ONE THAT SAID HE IS GIVING US 30 DAYS TO CERTIFY THE BOILER VIOLATION, RIGHT. BUT ALSO IN THE NEXT PAGE. HE SAYS THE BUILDING HEAT AND PIPE SOMETHING RATED FOR 15 PSI. THE BOILER IS OPERATING ON 30 PSI. AND I DON'T KNOW WHY IT IS ALMOST DOUBLE. MAYBE JUST A PROBLEM WITH THE PIPING. I DON'T KNOW. BUT MY NEXT QUESTION IS I UNDERSTAND -- I DON'T KNOW -- THAT THE BOILERS -- WELL, WE HAD 30 -- NOW WE HAVE 150 -- BIGGER THAN WHAT WE HAD BEFORE, THAT IS CORRECT? >> FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, YES. THE BOILERS IN THERE NOW ARE 150 PSI BUILT BOILERS. REGULATED TO $30 PSI ON T THE VALVE. AND RUNNING -- BY CLEAVER BROOKS AND BRYANT THAT CAME IN THAT BROUGHT THAT DOWN. ONLY RUNNING AT 11 -- 12 TO 12 POUNDS IS WHAT IT IS RUNNING AT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THE ONE WE HAD BEFORE. WHAT IS THE SIZE OF THE ONE BEFORE? >> TO BE HONEST WITH YOU I DON'T KNOW. I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT THE TAGS WERE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: I THINK -- WHY DIDN'T WE GET THE SAME BOILER SIZE. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT CHEAPER TOO. IF WE GOT 150 AND HAD TO CUT IT BACK TO 30, WHY DID WE BUY 150? >> I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION AT THE MOMENT BECAUSE THERE IS SOME QUESTIONS BEING ANSWERED BY BRYANT RIGHT NOW GOING TO BUYERS MECHANICAL REGARDING THE BOILERS THEMSELVES. ONCE I HAVE THAT ACTUAL PAPERWORK IN HAND AND ALL THE BACK-UP WITH THAT, I WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER ALL OF THE QUESTIONS EXACTLY WHAT BOILERS WERE ORDERED, IF THE CASING AND THE OUTSIDE SHELL OF THE BOILER WILL STILL THE SAME. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHO AUTHORIZED THE BIGGER BOILERS. >>THE BOILERS WERE AUTHORIZED BY ABM. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: WHO AUTHORIZED THE FACT THAT WE WILL HAVE BIGGER BOILERS. ABM. >> ABM. NOT DONE BY ANYONE ELSE. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: NO EXPLANATION WHY? >> WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED [02:00:03] ANYTHING. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: STAND TO REASON ONE POSSIBLE EXPLANATION MIGHT BE THAT IT WILL PROVIDE FOR A GREATER HEATING SOURCE? >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: BUT CUT IT BACK TO 30, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: FORGIVE ME. I KNOW A LOT OF COMMENTARY. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ANOTHER COMMENT. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: MY APOLOGIZE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I APPRECIATE YOU APOLOGIZING. SHANE, I WANT TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE GET THAT INFORMATION, BUT WHEN WE ASK THAT VERY QUESTION, WE WERE GIVEN THE EXPLANATION THAT IT WAS A BETTER BOILER. WHY DO YOU ORDER SOMETHING THAT IS BETTER THAN YOU HAD BEFORE, YOU WANT IT BETTER. CAN YOU KIND OF GET THOSE ANSWERS FOR US TO TRY TO SEE IF -- IF THEY HAVE MORE CAPACITY AND MORE CAPACITY AT 30 PSI IS BETTER THAN CAPACITY AT 15 PSI. >> FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM THE ENGINEER OF RECORD BETTER BOILERS THAN WHAT WAS INSIDE THE FACILITY BEFORE. >>JUDGE CANALES: ONE WOULD HOPE. IF YOU GET ALL OF THAT TO US. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD THAT PLUS THE REPORT AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE PIPES WHAT YOU SAID THAT IS BEING DONE THE SCANNING OF THE PIPES. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. HOW OLD WAS THE BOILERS THAT YOU REMOVED? >> TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T KNOW HOW OLD THE BOILERS WERE. I CAN GO BACK AND GET INFORMATION FROM PUBLIC WORKS. I AM SURE THEY WILL HAVE MAYBE SOME INFORMATION WHEN TWO OF THE BOILERS WERE NEWER. ONE OF THEM WAS A VERY OLD BOILER. PROBABLY AROUND FROM WHERE THE ORIGINAL BUILDING WAS IN PLACE. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I REMEMBER THAT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, QUESTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU FOR ASKING. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: FOR JUAN -- IF I CAN GET YOU UP THERE. FIRST AND FOREMOST, I REALLY APPRECIATE ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY AND THE COMMISSIONERS COURT YOUR -- YOU REALLY WERE THE ONES -- YOU AND YOUR STAFF -- NOT JUST YOU -- THAT RAISED THE CONCERNS OVER THESE ISSUES. HAD YOU NOT DONE THAT, I AM NOT SURE WE WOULD BE HERE TODAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT FIRST. >> YES, SIR. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: MY QUESTION TO YOU, NOW THAT YOU HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW AND GONE THROUGH THIS, WHERE ARE YOU WITH THE CONCERN LEVEL. ARE WE TAKING THE APPROPRIATE STEPS AND IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. >> I THINK SOME OF THIS INFORMATION IS NEW. I NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH SHANE AND ABM AND KIND OF GO OVER. WE DID HAVE A MEETING WITH ABM YESTERDAY AND HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM. I NEED TO KIND OF SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND GO OVER THIS INFORMATION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SOUNDS LIKE WE MAY NEED TO HAVE ABM IN HERE NEXT TIME. RESPECTFULLY TO SHANE, HE IS DEFERRING A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS HE NEEDS TO CHECK WITH ABM AND RON WHEATON. WE MAY NEED MORE RESOURCE IN HERE FOR THE NEXT PRESENTATION SO THEY CAN ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS DIRECTLY SO WE DON'T HAVE TO ASK SHANE TO COME BACK AND FIND HIM AND BRING HIM BACK. PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT ROLES IN THIS PROCESS AND SOME OF THE REQUEST HE IS THAT SHANE WOULDN'T KNOW WITHOUT GOING BACK AND CHECKING. LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THE NEXT TIME WE DO THIS EVERYBODY THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE ROOM IS IN THE ROOM. AND EITHER A UNIFIED FRONT OR IT IS NOT AND WHY. BECAUSE THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE. AND AGAIN, NOT FOR YOU AND YOUR STAFF BRING IT TO OUR ATTENTION, WE WOULDN'T BE TODAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. IF YOU SEE SOMETHING WITH THE NEW INFORMATION -- >> COMMISSIONER, I WOULD HAVE TO JUMP IN -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: DON'T INTERRUPT ME, PLEASE. APPRECIATE IF YOU BRING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: HOLD ON. I DON'T KNOW IF HE CAN HEAR YOU. GIVE ME A SECOND. WE HAVE A BAD CONNECTION, BUT SEE IF WE CAN GET A BETTER CONNECTION. WILL YOU UNMUTE -- OKAY, JP, DID YOU HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THE -- FOR THE QUESTION THAT WAS POSED? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DIDN'T ASK HIM A QUESTION. >> WELL, WHAT I WANTED TO SAY JUDGE -- I HEARD THE COMMISSIONER CHARACTERIZE IT AS A SECURELY SERIOUS ISSUE -- WE DO NOT HAVE A SERIOUS ISSUE RELATED TO THESE BOILERS, PERIOD, FULL STOP. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. BUT I AGREE TO DISAGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT, JP. IT MAY BE RIGHT NOW BUT NOT WHEN IT STARTED. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. . >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: JB, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU? >> YES. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: ARE YOU AN ENGINEER? >> NO, I AM A REGISTERED ARCHITECT. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: OKAY, THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON. >> IF I MAY, JUDGE, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT QUESTION, HOWEVER, IS WE HAVE REVIEWED EVERY QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN ASKED WITH THE ENGINEERING TEAM. THE ENGINEER THAT THE COUNTY HIRED TO DO A THIRD-PARTY [02:05:04] EVALUATION PROVIDED A CLARIFYING STATEMENT OF THEIR ORIGINAL LETTER THAT SAID THAT THERE WAS NOT A SERIOUS ISSUE. AND SO, COMMISSIONER, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS, PLEASE NOTE THAT SHANE, JP, LAN AND, ETC. HAVE VETTED THESE QUESTIONS WITH THE PROFESSIONALS. SO THE RELUCTANCE TO STEP OUT AND MAKE DEFINITIVE STATEMENTS IN COURT IS BASED SOLELY ON OUR INTEREST IN PROVIDING FACTS AND GOOD INFORMATION TO THE RATHER THAN JUST AN ANSWER. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: MAYBE NEXT TIME YOU CAN BRING AN ENGINEER TO LET US KNOW WHAT IS -- WHAT OUR CONCERNS ARE. MAYBE PUT US AT EASE SO WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THOSE CONCERNS. >> A GREAT SUGGESTION, COMMISSIONER. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL RIGHT, THANKS, EVERYBODY. WE WILL SEE YOU BACK HERE WITH MORE DATA, MORE INFO. IF WE CAN MOVE CONTINUE TO JUAN'S ITEM. WE HAVE INFORMATION NOW. >> WE DO, JUDGE, AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS NOW THAT I HAVE SEEN THE DATA PROVIDED. >>JUDGE CANALES: FOR STEEL WALL REPAIR. ITEM B-1. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: ALREADY A MOTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALREADY A MOTION AND A SECOND. JUST A MATTER OF CLARIFYING -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JOHN MADE THE MOTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: CO 2021. AND THEREFORE, ALL THE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED AND THE ALLOCATION SHOULD BE MADE UP TO $200,000. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, I ASK THAT WE DO THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE STOPPED. IF SOMEONE WILL ASK SOMETHING OUT OF A FUND TO PUT THIS LITTLE SHEET IN THERE, THAT IS ALL I WOULD HAVE NEEDED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>JUDGE CANALES: DIRECT TO THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: WHOEVER PUT THE AGENDA ITEM ON. >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: I THINK THAT IDAY NEEDS TO BE HERE TO HEAR THAT. BECAUSE SHE IS ULTIMATELY THE LEADND SHOULD BE ACTING ON OUR BEHALF. NOT ON YOU -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I GOT TO SAY THIS ONE -- I LOVE JUAN, BUT I GOT TO SAY, IF IT IS UNDER PUBLIC WORKS, THEN THE BACK-UP NEEDS TO COME FROM PUBLIC WORKS. >> YES, WE REQUESTED TO -- >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YOU REQUESTED IT. FAIR ENOUGH. >> YES, SIR, WE MADE THE REQUEST. >>JUDGE CANALES: HE DID REQUEST A FUNDING SOURCE. AND I SUGGESTED CO 21 AND TOLD THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR LET'S DO CO 21. I THINK SHE CONFUSED IT AND GOT YOUR INDIVIDUAL CO 21 AND THAT IS WHY WE GOT THIS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THEN JOHN. YOU ARE RIGHT. I STAND CORRECTED. YOU ARE RIGHT. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL NOSE FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY -- KNOW WHO THE SECOND WAS, MOI. I SECONDED IT EARLIER. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. NOW THAT CONCLUDES ALL THE NEEDS I THINK THAT YOU GOT THERE. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. APPRECIATES IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE ARE GOOD. AND -- I BELIEVE NOW IT IS TIME GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: NUMBER 8. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU SAID YOU DON'T NEED 8. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I DON'T. >>JUDGE CANALES: COMMISSIONER MAREZ, WERE YOU ABLE TO GET YOUR QUESTION ANSWERED? [8. Discuss and consider the appointment, employment, evaluation, reassignment, duties, discipline, or dismissal of the Human Resources Director, pursuant to Sec. 551.074 of the Texas Government Code.] >>COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: I AM, JUDGE, I AM OKAY WITH NOT TAKING THAT INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. ITEM NUMBER 8, OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. YOU SAID THAT YOU HAD A MOTION THAT YOU WANTED US TO CONSIDER? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YES, MA'AM. BASED ON MY BELIEF IN THE BEST OF THIS NUECES COUNTY. PURSUANT TO 2.44 OF THE NUECES COUNTY PERSONNEL MANUAL, JULIE GARRETT CURRENT HUMAN RESOURCES BE REASSIGNED TO A PIECE IN THE COUNTY OF HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR WITH NO PERIOD AND INTO LOSS OF BENEFITS. SAID POSITION IS NEITHER -- OR IS -- SAID POSITION IS WITHIN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SUBJECT TO THE CREATION OF THAT POSITION BY FREEZING OTHER EXISTING POSITIONS THAT ALREADY EXIST IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO NO FISCAL IMPACT. AND I WILL LET YOU -- I WILL TYPE THAT OUT. >>JUDGE CANALES: IS THERE A SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: IS THIS A DISCUSSION OR HAS -- HAS SHE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ADVISED OF THIS? BY YOU? >> RIGHT NOW SHE IS ON VACATION, BUT THE NEXT MEETING, I AM GOING TO HAVE AN ANSWER. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. I -- I WANTED TO KNOW -- AS THEY SAY THE WITNESS HAVE RIGHTS. IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SOME DISCUSSION HERE ON JUST THE [02:10:03] CONCEPT OF TYPICALLY WHEN WE DO THIS, WE ALLOW THE PERSON TO BE PRESENT. I FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE KNOWING WHAT HER POSITION IS ON THIS. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: JUDGE, IT IS NOT -- RESPECTFULLY. >> #.44, THE PERSONNEL MANUAL. APPOINTING AUTHORITY MAY REASSIGN TO GRADES UNDER THE SAME APPOINTING FACILITY. THEY ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THE SAME RULES AS TRANSFERS, EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE AND AFTER THE VOTE WILL BE GIVEN ADVANCED NOTICE IN WRITING OF THE CHANGE AND THE REASONS FOR IT. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: AND I. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHERE IS THAT? >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: THAT IS WHAT WE DO NOW AND THEN WE NOTICE. >> THE VOTE IS TAKING PLACE AND THE COUNTY MANAGER'S INTENTION TO GIVE THAT NOTICE IN WRITING WITH ALL THAT IT NEEDS TO HAVE IN IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: BUT WHAT IS IT GOING TO SAY. DO WE NOT GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT? OR IS IT BROUGHT BACK. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: SAY EXACTLY WHAT THE MOTION DOES. I CONSULTED WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND ASKED HER HOW TO DO THIS LEGALLY. THIS IS WHAT I WAS ADVISED TO DO EXACTLY BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. I LET THE COUNTY MANAGER KNOW THAT I WAS MAKING THE MOTION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REST OF THE COURT WILL VOTE ON. AND I LET THE COUNTY MANAGER KNOW I WAS MAKING THIS MOTION. THIS IS BY THE BOOK. I HAVE -- YOU KNOW, I HAVE DONE THIS LEGALLY BY THE BOOK, AND THIS IS HOW WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO IT. IF THE COURT VOTES TO DO THIS, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COUNTY MANAGER GIVES THE OFFICIAL WRITTEN NOTICE AND THAT'S IT. COURT DOESN'T HAVE TO SUPPORT IT, BUT THIS IS BY THE BOOK. I AM READING THE MOTION THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY APPROVED. >> MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE POSITION HAS TO BE CREATED. IT IS HAS NOT BEEN CREATED YET, AND THAT IS IN THE WORKS. AND THEN THE TRANSFER IS PROVIDED FOR AND THE SECOND PARAGRAPH, THE START DATE OF ANY EMPLOYEE REASSIGNED TO ANOTHER POSITION. IT WILL BE ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE BEGINNING OF THE PAY PERIOD ONCE IT IS CREATED. THEN IT IS UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY HUMAN RESOURCES. BUT -- >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: SHE HAS TO ACCEPT THE POSITION? >> SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO ACCEPT. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: DOESN'T HAVE TO. IF SHE ACCEPTS, SHE MOVES OVER AND THEN TURNS OVER -- >> THEN THE COURT WILL RECONSIDER ITS ACTIONS. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW. I DON'T HEAR A SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: HE SECONDED IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT HER -- IT SEEMS LIKE SHE WOULD HAVE UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES BEEN HERE TO SAY I WANT TO STAY IN MY POSITION OR I AM HAPPY TO HAVE THIS REASSIGNMENT AND THIS WILL HELP US MAKE THAT DETERMINATION BUT IF NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE ATTORNEY FOR THE OFF-LINE QUESTION BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY OF THE DISCUSSION WE HAD RIGHT NOW DIDN'T NEED TO BE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND I WAS ADVISED THAT THIS FELL WITHIN THE RULES, PARAMETERS TO ALLOW FOR US TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN -- ONE OF THE QUESTIONS BROUGHT UP HAVE IT BEEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. I THINK THIS HAS BEEN -- DO WE KNOW HOW MANY TIMES THIS HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE AGENDA? WOULD ANYBODY HAVE A GUESS OF HOW MANY TIMES? THAT. >>JUDGE CANALES: EIGHT. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: AT LEAST THAT MANY. I WAS GOING TO SAY 10. IN THIS INFORMATION JENNY OR IDAY OR WHOEVER HELP ME. BECAUSE OF THE WAY THIS MOTION IS MADE, IT IS NOT LIKE IT -- LIKE JULY OR ANYONE IN THAT POSITION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY. THAT IT NEEDS TO BE AND THE COURT HAS THAT -- NOT LIKE YOU CAN SAY AND THE COURT WILL SAY OKAY. IT IS A MATTER OF WHAT IS ALLOWED. >> THIS IS NOT A DISCIPLINARY ACTION UNDER THE MANUAL. THIS IS ITS OWN ITEM REASSIGNMENT. IT HAS ITS OWN RULES. VERY SMALL SECTION HERE WHICH DON'T PROVIDE FOR DEBATE ON THE HE SHALL PEW. >>JUDGE CANALES: UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION AS READ EARLIER, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> I SAID NO. [02:15:04] >>JUDGE CANALES: THREE EYES, ONE NO. AND ABSTENTION. I AM ABSTAINING. I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE HER HERE PRESENT. [4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session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djournment in Memory (upon request)] AND I WOULD JUST ASK IF THERE IS ANY ADJOURNMENTS IN MEMORY. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: I HAVE ONE, JUDGE COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, YOU MAY BEGIN. >>COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ: ARTIE KINGSTON. HE WAS LAID TO REST AND A UNITED STATES AIR FORCE. HE WAS LISTED IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE. I AM NOT SURE HOW MANY YEARS BUT I LEARNED OF HIS DEATH JUST YESTERDAY. AND HE WILL BE MISSED. AND HE WAS A GOOD FRIEND OF MY FRIEND JOE ORTIZ. I WANT TO BRING HIM UP. ARTIE KINGST MUCH. >>JUDGE CANALES: ANYBODY ELSE? SEEING NO OTHER ADJOURNMENTS IN MEMORY, WE WILL STAND ADJOURNED AND THE MEETING IS CONCLUDED AT 11:59 A.M. LET THE RECORD REFLECT WE * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.