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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> CALL THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO ORDER AND ASK EVERYBODY TO PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, TEXAS FLAGS.

>> OKAY. WE HAVE FOR THE CLERK, 8:35 A.M. IT IS SEPTEMBER 1ST, CAN'T BELIEVE IT, 2022. WE ARE HERE AT GRACE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT ON THE 3RD FLOOR OF THE COURTHOUSE, 901 LEOPARD. COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ IS HERE.

A YEAR OLDER, BUT HE'S HERE. COMMISSIONER MAREZ.

[2. PUBLIC HEARING:]

AND ABSENT IS JOE GONZALEZ. IF HE JOINS US WE'LL SIGNAL TO ADD TO THE MINUTES. AT THIS TIME, I WILL ANNOUNCE, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS CONDUCTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PROPOSED TAX YEAR, FISCAL YEAR, 2022-23. IT INCLUDES A PROPOSAL TO INCREASE FOR MAINTENANCE ■AND OPERATIONS, OPERATIONS OF THE TAX RULE FOR 6 PERCENT FOR NEUCES COUNTY.

AND AMOUNT GREATER THAN THE NEW REVENUE TAX RATE.

WE WILL GET EXPLANATIONS FROM OUR AUDITOR'S OFFICE TODAY, KIND OF HE'LL RUN THROUGH THE PROGRAM AND WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO HIM

AT THIS TIME. >> ANYTIME WE PROPOSE A TAX RATE IN EXTES OF THE NEUCES TAX, WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. TO GO OVER THE PROPOSED RATES WE HAVE AND FEW ITEMS WE ARE CONSIDERING IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. THE VOTE WILL BE ON SEPTEMBER 7TH. THAT'S WHEN WE COME UP WITH THE VOTE FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND THE COUNTY AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED BUDGET YOU ALL PLAN TO ADOPT.

IT CAN BE CHANGED FROM NOW AND UNTIL THAT DAY.

AND WE CAN DEFINITELY GO THROUGH ANY OF THE PROCESS WE NEED TO DO. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU.

IT'S ABOUT 17 PAGES LONG. WE WILL GO THROUGH THIS, AND NOT QUICKLY BUT WE'LL TRY TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS.

AND A FEW OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT CAME IN TO DO THE HEARINGS TODAY, REACHING OUT TO ME AND MY STAFF IN SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE DIDN'T HAVE INCLUDING THE BUDGET, EITHER WE RECEIVED IT AT A LATER TIME OR THIS IS SOMETHING WE KNOW THE COURT NEEDS TO HEAR AND DETERMINE WHAT THE PROCESS IS.

TODAY, IT'S THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 2022. NEXT PAGE PLEASE.

HERE'S THE ITEMS WE WILL BE DISCUSSING TODAY.

WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THE PROPOSED TAX RATE.

THIS IS VOTING FOR ANY RATES. THE COUNTY HAS PROPOSED, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE SEATING, WHICH IS AS HIGH AS WE GO.

AND AGAIN, THE SEPTEMBER THE 7TH, WE WILL MAKE THE VOTE WHETHER WE CONTINUE THE EXEMPTIONS OR NOT.

WE WILL SHOW YOU THE HISTORY OF WHAT THE TAX RATES OR REVENUE WILL BE. THE SOURCES OF REVENUE, HOW WE EXPEND SOME FUNCTIONS AND THE FUTURE FISCAL IMPACT WE MAY HAVE. NEXT PAGE, PLEASE.

HERE'S THE PROPOSED TAX RATE WE HAVE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE VERY TOP, THE CURRENT TAX RATE IS 0.310145 PER $100 EVALUATION. ACCORDING TO THE CALCULATIONS WE HAVE FOR THE TAX BALANCES, WE HAVE A KNOWN TAX RATE 0.271918 FOR 100 EVALUATION WE'RE PROPOSING 29.698.

NOW FOR THE PROPOSED COUNTY, THAT IS WHAT THE STATE COUNTS THE VOTER APROCHED RATE, PLUS WE HAVE UNUSABLE INCOME TAX RATE, BECAUSE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE DIDN'T GO THE HIGHEST RATE WE COULD. SO FOR THIS PARTICULAR TIME, I'LL GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE FOR THE.29059.

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AND THE DEBT, IS 20.069. AND AGAIN FOR THE PROPOSED RATE OF 0.291659. YOU COULD TELL FROM THE CURRENT RATE, IS THE REDUCTION OF RATE. REDUCTION OF THE VALUE FROM THE CURRENT RATE TO THE PROPOSED RATE IS.017866.

ALMOST TWO CENTS DECREASING IN TAX RATE OR 6.05 REDUCTION.

HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE FOR OUR CURRENT EXEMPTIONS THAT THE COUNTY HAS AS WELL AS, WE DIDN'T PUT IN ALL THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND WE PUT THE LARGEST ONE IN THE COUNTY.

WE HAVE OUR COUNTY, CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. AS YOU SEE FOR THE COUNTY, WE HAVE A 20 PERCENT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION WITH A MINIMUM OF $5,000. AND EXCEEDING 5500, SAME FOR THE DISABLED. THAT'S THE SAME FOR THE HOSPITAL, AND SAME FOR THE COUNTY.

CORPUS CHRISTI HAS A 10 PERCENT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

AND FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AS YOU NOTE, WE HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL ELECTION, NOT TOO LONG AGO THAT INCREASED THE EXEMPTION FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

IT USED TO BE 25,000 AND NOW IT'S $43,000.

AND DEL MAR COLLEGE IS ONLY $5,000 EXEMPTION FOR HOMESTEAD AND $50,000 FOR EACH OF THE TWO. WE WILL BE BRINGING YOU THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FOR THE COUNTY AND SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR SEPTEMBER 7TH FOR VOTING. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

HERE'S THE COMBINED TAX RATE FOR THE NEUCES COUNTY AND HOSPITAL DISTRICT COMBINED. YOU SEE ALL THE WAY BACK FROM 2006-2007. YOU SEE THE LINE FLUCTUATING IN THE LAST, 1920, 21, WE WERE VERY CLOSE TO SMALL DECREASES.

13, 12, 11, 10. THIS YEAR, WE'RE GOING DOWN TO.4299. THE BOUNCE WE'RE SHOWING, WE'RE SHOWING A TENDENCY OF GOING DOWN.

THIS IS BOTH FOR OUR COUNTY AS WELL AS THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

ABOUT HOSPITAL DISTRICT, HAS GONE FLUCTUATED A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF WHAT WE NEEDED FOR THE BALANCES.

AS YOU SEE, STARTING FROM 2012-2013, THAT LINE IS GOING DOWN. IT'S GOING DOWN FROM.16, TO 0.106. THAT'S DEFINITELY A DECREASE OF 0.16. THAT'S DECREASE OF TAXABLE VALUE FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS IS A COMBINED, THE FIRST ONE, IS THAT THE COUNTY?

>> THE FIRST ONE IS THE COUNTY. >> THE FIRST ONE IS THE COUNTY.

THIS IS THE COMBINED. THIS IS THE COMBINED WITH NEUCES COUNTY AS WELL AS THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

BACK IN 2006-2007, WE WERE 0.53. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE, WE'RE ABOUT 20 CENTS DIFFERENCE.

NOT QUITE 20 CENTS BUT CLOSE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS IS WHAT WE PROJECT, THIS IS SEEMS HIGH, BUT THIS IS BOTH OUR COMBINED RATES FOR THE COUNTY. THE TAX AND FOR THE TOTAL COMBINED REVENUE FOR THE TAXES, GOING BACK IN 2013-2014 IS 70.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROPOSING A PROPOSED RATE OF 108 MILLION.

YOU COULD SEE THERE'S $5 MILLION DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2001 AND THE CURRENT ONE WE HAVE. HERE'S THE HISTORY OF THE FUND BALANCES, 2016-17, WE HAD A LARGE DROP IN THE FUND BALANCE.

WE HAD TO BUY SOME EQUIPMENT, WE DIDN'T QUITE HAVE FUNDING FOR.

WE HAD TO USE SOME BALANCES IN THE GENERAL FUND.

AS YOU COULD SEE WE'RE MAKING IT UP.

IN 2021, WE ARE RIGHT OR ABOVE THE TARGET RIGHT.

2022, IT DECREASE, SOME OF THE COURSES STARTING TO RUN AND IT GETS VERY SPEPS SIF. WE KNOW THE 24.7, THESE ARE ESTIMATES. OF COURSE, TAKEN ACTION, AND GIVING US AN ABILITY TO DO SOME FUNDS.

WE BELIEVE AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE'LL BE CLOSER TO THE 25 THAN THE 24. THIS COMES FROM THE AVERAGE TAXABLE VALUE. THIS IS THE VALUES THE TAX DISTRICT PROVIDES. AND AS YOU COULD SEE, THE TAXABLE VALUE FOR THIS YEAR, IS 157,170.

LAST YEAR, IT WAS 149,979. YOU'RE IN ABOUT 16,000 INCREASE

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IN TAXABLE VALUE AS AN AVERAGE VALUE.

YOU SEE FROM THE VERY FIRST ONE, 2022, WE HAVE ADOPTED, AND IF YOU FOLLOW US THROUGH THE TAXABLE VALUE, YOU SEE THAT FOR BOTH COMBINED, IT WILL PAY $623.26 TO THE COUNTY.

IF WE STAYED OUR PROPOSED RATES, 0.39487, IT WILL BRING $56.12.

ONLY A SMALL 6.8 INCREASE IN TAXES AND YOU SAW THE INCREASE IN THE VALUE OF THE HOUSES, OVER $15,000.

NEXT SLIDE, IS ONE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US, WE WOULD LIKE TO SHOW. THAT'S THE NICE FORM OF HOUSES, WHERE THE TAXES ARE GOING TO. AS YOU SEE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, FAR BLUFF, WHATEVER SCHOOL DISTRICT IT IS, THEY ARE RIDING ABOUT 20 PERCENT OF THE TAXES, TO GO PAY THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

IF YOU LIVE IN THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, THE REMAINING 25 PERCENT GOES TO PAY CORPUS CHRISTI.

IN DEL MAR, AROUND 20 PERCENT EACH.

AND YOU SEE WHERE THE TAXABLE SHARES COME FROM, WE BELIEVE IT'S GOOD TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THE TAX -- AND WE TRY TO CONTROL THIS. AND THE COUNTY ONLY HAS 11 PERCENT SHARE OF THE VALUE YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH.

NEXT SLIDE. NOW WE WILL SHOW YOU WHAT WE BELIEVE WHERE OUR MONEY COMES FROM.

AS YOU SEE IN THE DOLLAR BILL, PROPERTY TAX REPRESENTS ABOUT 49, 48-49 PERCENT OF THE TOTAL REVENUE FROM ALL SOURCES.

THE MAIN LARGE SOURCES IS IN THE MAIN GOVERNMENTAL REVENUE.

MAIN REVENUE COMES FROM GRANTS, OTHER FUNDS THAT WE SHARE WITH OTHER COUNTIES WE GET FUNDS FOR, AND THAT'S WHERE THE GOVERNMENT REVENUE COMES FROM AND THAT'S AT 35 PERCENT.

THE LARGEST ONE IS CHARGES FOR SERVICES, CLERK FEES AND SHERIFF FEES AND COMPARABLE FEES, FOR SERVING PAPERS.

THE CHARGES FOR SERVICES. THAT'S THE REMAINING 15 PERCENT.

THE THREE LARGEST PORTION OF THE TAXES, COMING IN, IS FROM PROPERTY TAX AND REVENUE. CHARGES FOR SERVICES IN ALL OF OUR COURTS. NEXT SLIDE.

NOW THIS IS WHERE OUR MONEY GOES.

AS YOU SEE, TOTAL BALANCES FOR HERE IS 80 MILLION.

YOU SEE THE LARGEST PORTION OF IT, IT'S FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CORRECTIONS AND IT'S SOME OF OUR LARGER, PARKS, AND SIGNIFICANT FUNDS COMES FROM THE AREAS. YOU SEE THE BREAK DOWN WHERE THESE COME FROM. NEXT SLIDE.

WE WILL BE FOLLOWING THE PROPOSED BUDGET ON SEPTEMBER THE 7TH. THE PROPOSED BUDGET HAS THESE INCLUSIVE IN THE BUDGET PROPOSAL.

I GAVE YOU A LIST ON WHAT THE NEW POSITIONS ARE, RECLASSIFICATIONS ARE IN THE TRANSFERS ARE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE BUDGET. A LOT OF THESE, CHANGE.

AND RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE 414,595 FOR THE CONTINGENCY LAW ENFORCEMENT COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT.

WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 250 REGULAR EMPLOYEES, THAT QUALIFY FOR 332,408 CONTINUOUS AS WELL. THEY COVER MOST OF THE COST FROM RETIREMENT PLAN IS GOING DOWN FROM 13.4 PERCENT TO 13.2 PERCENT. AND IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION, WE PROBABLY NEED TO GET OUR SALARIES TO REALISTIC.

WE ASK TO INCLUDE INCREASE FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT.

AND RIGHT NOW THE GENERAL FUND, THAT'S $2.5 MILLION AND WE HAVE DIFFERENT COST THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WHAT THE COURT ADDED BECAUSE OF THE NEAR EMERGENCY SITUATIONS, THESE EMPLOYEES WERE NEEDED. WE HAD A MID YEAR, PEOPLE COMING IN, THAT COST US, 434,595. RIGHT NOW I'M PROPOSING LIMITED POSITIONS. AND I BELIEVE IT'S 5-6 NEW POSITIONS, AT 17251. THE CLASSIFICATIONS INCLUDES THE BALANCES FOR THE CADETS. I DIDN'T KNOW IT INCLUDES THE BALANCES. AS WELL AS SOME OTHER SMALL RECLASSIFICATIONS. THE BANK OF AMERICA DEBT SERVICES WE HAVE, FOR THE SAVINGS WE RECENTLY HAD.

IT'S A SMALL INCREASE OF $27,000.

I WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

HERE'S WHAT I BELIEVE THE FUTURE IMPACT.

THE CORONAVIRUS COVID 19, WE'RE STILL SEEING SOME VARIANCES FROM

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THAT. AND THE LAST ONE, WHICH IS VERY GOOD. WE'RE STILL SEEING RECOVERY FROM THIS. AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLANS FUNDS, THOSE ARE USED FOR THE DIRECTION FOR THE COURT AS WELL AS THE INTEREST THAT WE HAVE.

WE CONTINUE TO SEE THE REDUCTION OF SOME OF OUR REVENUES BECAUSE OF OUR COSTS. SOME OF THE TAX COLLECTIONS COMING IN, BECAUSE OF THIS AS WELL AS OUR, CAUSING A HIGH RATE OF COSTS FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE TRY TO GO, FOOD, GASOLINE.

LUCKILY THE GASOLINE PRICES, WE SAW, IS REDUCING.

WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND IN THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING IS ON SEPTEMBER THE 8TH AT 8:30. THIS IS THE TIME WE DO ADOPTION FOR THE COUNTY BUDGET. WE WILL BE ADOPTING, THE BALANCE, FOR HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO DO FOR THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS, AS WELL AS ADOPTING THE TAX RATE.

THE PROPOSED BUDGET WILL BE FILED WITH THE COUNTY CLERK.

WE WILL BE PROVIDING YOU A COPY BEFORE YOU LEAVE ON FRIDAY.

YOU SHOULD BE RECEIVING A PRINTED COPY.

WE WILL SEND YOU A DIGITAL COPY AS WELL.

A LOT OF THE NUMBERS COULD CHANGE.

I KNOW A FEW DEPARTMENTS HERE WOULD LIKE TO BRING SOME STUFF.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE, ADD OR SUBTRACT.

WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO INCLUDE IN THE BUDGET.

THAT'S WHY WE ASKED THEM TO BE HERE TO DISCUSS THIS.

AS I SAID, IT BOUNCES FOR THE COURT, SEPTEMBER 7TH, 2022, FOR HERE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

WE WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE FOUR MEMBERS OF THE COURT PRESENT.

IT WILL BE A RECORD VOTE FOR ALL.

NEXT SLIDE. THAT'S THE PRESENTATION I HAVE FOR THE PROPOSED TAX RATE FOR THE COUNTY FOR 2022-2023 FOR BOTH THE COUNTIES AS WELL, AS THE HEALTH DISTRICT.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I DON'T SEE DEPARTMENT HEADS PRESENT BUT THEY MAY BE ON LINE.

I DO SEE JOHNNY HIP FROM THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT? I THINK THE LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE, THE BOARD HAD NOT TAKEN ACTION. MAYBE YOU COULD GIVE US AN

UPDATE. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD MET ON MONDAY THIS PAST MONDAY, ADOPTED A BUDGET. THE BUDGET THAT THE DISTRICT BOARD ADOPTED THEN ACTUALLY HAS A TAX RATE THAT'S LESS THAN THE ONE DALE HAD SHOWED YOU. THE TAX RATE THAT THE DISTRICT ADOPTED IN HIS BUDGET IS 0.091986.

>> GO AHEAD AND REPEAT THAT FOR US.

>> YES, MA'AM, IT'S 0.098966. THAT'S EQUIVALENT TO A 1.5 PERCENT INCREASE REVENUE OVER THE NEW REVENUE AMOUNT.

>> VERY GOOD. >> THE REASON FOR THAT, COMMISSIONERS, IS THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT IS IN A GOOD FINANCIAL POSITION. WE'VE HAD AN INCREASE IN REVENUES FROM OUR SPAWN RELATIONSHIP AND SO THE REASON WE'RE ASKING FOR THE 1.5 INSTEAD OF SOMETHING LESS IS THAT THE OTHER NUMBERS, THE 0.5 OR 1 PERCENT BASICALLY THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT WITH A NEGATIVE NUMBER IN TERMS OF REVENUE COMPARED TO LAST YEAR. AND SO THE 1.5 IS ESSENTIALLY ABOUT -- IT SHOULD BREAK EVEN. IN YOUR NUMBERS, IT'S ABOUT $300-SOMETHING DOLLARS INCREASE. WHEN YOU TAKE THE NUMBER, THERE'S A CONTINGENCY FOR A REFINERY, TAX SETTLEMENT.

THE NET AMOUNT, WHEN YOU FACTOR IT OUT, IT'S ABOUT $150,000.

>> OKAY, DALE. YOU HAVE THE NEW NUMBER.

I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF WORK, BUT IF YOU CHANGE ALL THOSE SLIDES.

OF COURSE, THAT NUMBER AFFECTS ALL YOUR COMBINED NUMBERS.

>> THE SLIDES, WHEN WE'RE PROPOSED, THE RATES FOR ADOPTION, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE WILL HAVE EVERYTHING INCLUDED.

WE'VE BEEN CALLED BY SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS.

WE TOLD THEM TO BE PRESENT AS WELL AS THE 7TH, BECAUSE SOME OF THEM, SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THE DEPARTMENTS THAT THEY WANTED TO REQUEST, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE LIST I GAVE YOU FOR N1, SHOWING YOU A REDUCTION OF TWO POSITIONS FOR THE RECORDS OF MANAGEMENT POSITION. THE RECORD OF MANAGEMENT, CANNOT FUND $84,000 WORTH OF SALARY. SO I KNOW, WE'RE TALKING WITH COMMISSIONER ADMINISTRATION ABOUT TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM 1:30, AND I CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT THE COURT'S DIRECTION AND PROCEDURE. RIGHT NOW WITH THE FUNDS NOT AVAILABLE AT THE TIME, THESE POSITIONS WILL BE -- UNLESS THE

COURT TAKES ACTION. >> CORRECT.

>> WE'VE BEEN RECENTLY CALLED, BECAUSE THEY RECENTLY CAME IN.

I BELIEVE MR. FOREST MITCHELL SUBMITTED A FORM TO ME.

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I BELIEVE IT'S TO ME, ABOUT WANTING ADDITIONAL STAFF, INCREASING IN THE SALARY. IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET.

OTHER THAN WHAT THE COURTS PROVED.

>> HE JUST WALK IN. WE WILL GIVE HIM A CHANCE.

I WILL ADDRESS THE FIRST ISSUE, IF ■THAT'S--IRST, LET MEJUST STOP AND ASK. DALE HAS GONE THROUGH THE SLIDES. ANY QUESTIONS FOR DALE,

COMMISSIONERS? >> I APOLOGIZE.

I WAS LOOKING FOR A PEN THAT'S WORKABLE.

YOU COULD REPEAT THE NUMBERS, PLEASE.

>> 0.094866. >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS. >> THE MEDICAL EXAMINERS, THAT'S

STAGGERING TO SEE. >> JUST FOR DALE'S PRESENTATION.

>> NO. >> ANYTHING FROM DALE'S PRESENTATION? OKAY SO NOW WHAT I WILL DO IS ADDRESS THE DISTRICT CLERKS FIRST AND THEN WE CAN GO STRAIGHT TO THE MEDICAL EXAMINER.

ON THE DISTRICT CLERK, I DID GET TO VISIT WITH HER YESTERDAY.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS.

I THINK WE CAN SOLVE THIS PROBLEM BUT IT WILL TAKE SOME COURT ACTION ON THE 7TH TO TRANSFER REVENUE BASICALLY FROM ONE DEPARTMENT TO ANOTHER AND THIS WOULD KEEP, WHAT I WOULD CALL, ALL OF US STATUS QUO. THEY GO AHEAD AND TELL US THE NUMBERS. I DON'T REMEMBER THE PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT. 130.

>> LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT'S HAPPENING.

THE LAST SESSION, THEY ELIMINATED A LOT OF FEES, AND SOME OF THE FEES WE NOW RECEIVE, MOST OF THE REVENUES GO TO 131, WHICH IS THE IMAGING DIVISION, WHICH NOW IS DIRECTED BY I.T.

ALL THE REVENUES IS GOING, FEE FOR THE DISTRICT CLARK AND THAT REVENUE IS GOING AWAY. AND WE CAN TRANSFER FUNDS HERE OR TRANSFER TO THE 131 BUT IT WILL BE OUT OF THE DISTRICT

CLERK'S OFFICE AND I.T. >> TWO CLERKS, SENIOR LEVEL WERE FUNDED STRATEGICALLY BY A CERTAIN FEE.

AND THE MONEY IS AVAILABLE BUT WE HAVE TO TRANSFER IT, AS THEY

SAY DEPARTMENT TO THIS OTHER. >> FUND, ESPECIALLY REVENUE.

IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME NET EFFECT.

>> WE WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM? >> NO.

WE WILL HAVE TO ADD IT TO THE AGENDA.

>> THE REQUEST WAS TRANSFERRING TO 0130.

0130 IS THE SLUSH FUND, WHERE WE PUT MOST OF OUR INCOME FORM FROM OUR INTEREST. OUR INTEREST HAS BEEN VERY LOW.

WE HAVE TO REALIZE, THIS FUND WILL BE USED TO FUND, OF OUR SMALL SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS. THERE'S LIKE 2-3, THAT NEED FUNDS. THE INTEREST RATE HAS BEEN 30-40,000. IF WE DO THIS FOR A SPECIFIC AMOUNT, LAST TIME I SELECTED, THIS FUND HAS ABOUT 800,000 IN THE FUND BALANCE. IF WE DO THIS, AND THERE'S LITTLE, AND THE INTEREST DOESN'T GO UP, WE CAN FUND THIS FOR FIVE YEARS AND WE'LL BE RUNNING OUT OF MONEY.

SO $100,000 EACH YEAR. >> SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE DO

THIS. >> IT'S GOING TO BE ONE YEAR, COMMISSIONER, YES. BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS WITH THE DISTRICT CLERK, TO SEE WHAT'S GOING TO BE THERE, TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE TWO POSITIONS IN THE SAME DEPARTMENT. THAT'S GOING TO BE THE REQUEST

FOR THAT. >> IT MAY NOT BE A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. IT IS A GOOD SHORT-TERM SOLUTION

FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. >> DALE, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT COMMITTING FOR IT FOR FIVE YEARS.

I THINK YOU'RE JUST MAKING A POINT.

THE QUESTION IS WHAT DAMAGE DOES IT DO FOR THE FUND FOR ONE YEAR AND, AGAIN, THIS IS A KICK OF THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD THING, BUT NOT NECESSARILY DOING ANYTHING WRONG.

WE CAN EITHER DEAL WITH IT NOW ORDEAL IT WITHIN THE YEAR.

AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF WE NOT USE THE WORD SLUSH FUND.

>> THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THEY ELIMINATED A LOT OF FEES.

A LOT OF THE REGULAR FEES BECAUSE MOST COUNTIES ARE GOING DIGITAL. THEY DON'T BELIEVE YOU NEED THE RETENTION AND STAFF TO MANAGE DIGITAL COPIES.

WE KNOW THAT'S NOT THE CASE. THESE TWO EMPLOYEES, COULD TRANSFER, WHICH IS THE IMAGING FUND, WHICH HAS THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF MONEY. WE CAN PROVIDE 350,000 EACH YEAR TO OPERATE THE FUND. THESE TWO FUNDS COULD BE TRANSFERRED THERE. AND THEY ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE DISTRICT COURT AND UNDER THE RECORD MANAGEMENT WHICH IS I.T.

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>> OR FUND THEM, LEAVE THEM WHERE IT IS, AND TRANSFER AND FIND DIFFERENT SOURCE OF FUNDS NEXT YEAR.

>> WHAT'S 130? >> 130 IS, WHERE THE INTEREST IS DEPOSITED AND WE USE THE FUNDS TO COVER OTHER NEEDS IN.13.

>>ND AN IF MS. ANNE IS LISTENING, MAYBE SHE CAN CHIME IN. REMEMBER THE LEGISLATION DID A COMBINATION OF FEES. WE ARE NOT BORROWING FROM RANDOM FUND. WE'RE BORROWING FROM THE ACTUAL FEES THEY WOUND UP. THEY WOUND UP IN A DIFFERENT FUND. .

>> CONSOLIDATION. >> THE STATE LIKES THE CONSOLIDATION. WE WERE NOT SET UP THAT WAY.

THAT'S WHY I SAY, IT'S OKAY TO GO TO 130.

THAT'S WHERE THE DOLLARS FROM THE CONSOLIDATION FEES WE COLLECT WOUND UP. DON'T GET ME WRONG.

LONG-TERM, WE HAVE TO DO SOME ANALYSIS.

THE BEST ONE TO SHOW YOU, WE LOST A DOLLAR HERE, BUT WE PICKED UP $2 OVER HERE. I THINK FOR US, WHAT WE WANT TO DO, MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS CERTAINTY FOR THEIR BUDGET, THAT THESE FOLKS WOULD NOT JUST FROM MINISTERIAL REASONS NOT BE IN

THE BUDGET. >> YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.

>> MAYBE NOT? >> I WAS JUST SAYING 0130 IS FOR THE INTEREST EARNED AND 131, THEY PREVIOUSLY, THE LEGISLATION HAD PROVIDED THAT THE COUNTY JUDGE RECEIVES RECORDS MANAGEMENT FEES, THE COUNTY CLERK RECEIVES COUNTY MANAGEMENT FEES. THE DISTRICT CLERK RECEIVED RECORD FEES. AND THE DISTRICT CORD ESTABLISHED ONE PERSON TO BE THE RECORDS IMAGING MANAGER WHICH WE CHOSE I.T., HE ALSO RECEIVED A RECORDS IMAGING MANAGED FEE.

INSTEAD OF HAVING THOSE FOUR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT HEADS OR ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVING THEIR OWN LITTLE PORTION, THEY MOVED

IT ALL OVER TO THE ONE -- >> THEY STILL HAVE -- COUNTY

CLERK STILL HAS. >> CONSOLIDATE.

>> THE COUNTY CLERK HAS THEIRS AND OTHER THREE GOT CONSOLIDATED. THOSE GO TO 0131.

>> 0131, WHICH IS RECORD IMAGING.

BECAUSE COMMISSIONERS COURT HAD GIVEN THE ASSIGNMENT TO DARRYL, HE'S THE DESIGNATED DEPARTMENT HEAD DIRECTOR OF RECORDS IMAGING, HE IS THEREFORE, THE ONE THAT'S OVERSEEING THE FUNDS.

HE'S NOW OVER THE 0131. THE MONEY FOR -- HE'S BEEN A 131. THE MONEY FOR THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, HAS GONE AWAY. IT WILL TRICKLE DOWN UNTIL

THERE'S NOTHING LEFT. >> THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS, WE WILL PROBABLY SHOULD PUT -- BECAUSE THE JUDGE IS RIGHT.

WE HAVE TO DO AN ANALYSIS ON THAT.

WHAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY DO, STILL PUT IT UNDER THE CATEGORY IN WHICH IT GOES. I GET IT.

IT PUTS IT UNDER DALE INSTEAD OF ANNE.

IS THERE A WAY TO DO AN INTERLOOK -- NOT INTERLOOK, BUT A TRANSFER OF FUNDS. WE NEED TO KEEP IT CLEAN BUT WE NEED TO SHOW THE PAPER TRAIL THAT SAYS, LOOK, THESE ARE THE POSITIONS WE'VE KEPT WITH THE CONSOLIDATED FEES.

THEY NEED TO STAY UNDER IN THE DISTRICT CLERK.

THEY HAVE TO COME OUT OF THE COMBINED FEE SO THAT WE CAN KEEP TRACKING IT AND SHOW THOSE PEOPLE ARE PAID BY THE FEES.

AND THEN WE CAN DO THAT ANALYSIS LATER.

MY QUESTION, COULD WE DO THAT AS A HYBRID KIND OF THING, WE KEEP IT UNDER THE DISTRICT CLERK, BUT WE TRANSFER THE FUNDS FROM THE 131 TO THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE.

>> WANT THE COURT TO TELL ME -- >> AND HE DOESN'T HAVE THE POWER TO DO IT. WE HAVE TO DO THAT.

>> WE DON'T WANT TO PUT THEM UNDER 131.

WE WANT TO TRANSFER, ONE TIME, THIS YEAR, TO THE DISTRICT CLERK SHOWING THAT. AND THAT GIVES EVERYBODY A YEAR

TO DEAL WITH THAT AND -- >> FIGURE OUT HOW WE WANT TO

PROCEED. >> BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW, WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING THE FEES.

IT'S JUST THAT WE'RE NOT COLLECTING THEM DEPARTMENTWISE THE WAY WE WERE. IT WAS GOING TO ANNE'S OFFICE DIRECTLY AND THAT'S HOW SHE WOULD FUND THE POSITIONS.

NOW ALL THE FEES, BECAUSE CONSOLIDATION GOES OVER HERE, NOW IT'S SHOWING UP. .

>> MAKES SENSE. >>ND AN IF IT'S AN OLD CASE, AND THEY USE THE OLD DIVISION. YES.

>> I THINK IT'S FOR THE DUPICATION OF SERVICES.

AND THEY WERE CONCERNED SOME COUNTIES WERE DUPLICATION OF SERVICES. AND SO ONE PERSON IS CONTROLLING. IT MAKES SENSE.

>> IT IS KIND OF WEIRD TO HAVE FOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS WITH THE

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FOUR DIFFERENT FEE FUNDS. IT IS A LITTLE, SO --

>> MAYBE, JUST SEEING NOW IN THE FUTURE, IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE ALL CATCHING UP ON DIGITAL, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF PAPER DISAPPEAR IN THE FUTURE. .

>> LET'S HOPE. >> THE INTERNAL LAW, TO MAKE SURE THE FEES, HOW THEY ARE ASSESSED, WORKING WITH OCA, TO DETERMINE WHERE THEY ARE GOING. BEST WAY TO ALLOCATE THE FUNDS.

>> YEAH. >> SO THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT. AND THEN ON-LINE, WE HAVE FLORES. AND IS THERE ANYBODY ON LINE THAT NEEDS TO VISIT WITH US, JUST SO I COULD KEEP TRACK? DARRYL, YOU'RE JUST LISTENING IN, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.

>> I BELIEVE DEANNA SALDENIA IS LOGGING ON AND CAROL WILL BE

HERE IN A FEW MINUTES. >> WHO IS COMING?

>> DEANNA WILL BE ON ZOOM. HOMER WILL BE HERE IN A FEW MINUTES. THEY THOUGHT IT STARTED AT 9:00.

>> I HAVE ONE MORE THAT'S NOT AS DETAILED AS MAYBE THE COUPLE WE'RE ABOUT TO HEAR NEXT. THAT'S THE GRANT POSITION FOR TRUANCY FOR JP RODRIGUEZ AS WELL AS JP RUBIO.

IT'S GRANT FUNDED. IF WE DON'T FIND A SOLUTION, IT WILL DISAPPEAR. AND BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF

THE -- >> WE LOST THE GRANT.

>> SO I NEEDED SOME INFORMATION AS TO WHEN SOMETIMES THE APPLICATIONS DON'T COINCIDE WITH OUR FISCAL YEAR.

SO IF WE CAN FIND IT OUT, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, SIMPLY SAY THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO FUND THE POSITION AND THROUGH ARPA. AND IF THE GRANT IS ABLE TO BE RENEWED, THEN WE HAVE SOME SORT OF A REIMBURSEMENT PROVISION, OR SOMETHING THAT PUTS IT BACK IN. OR, LET ME GIVE YOU ANOTHER OPTION. I COULD, WE CAN FUND WITH ARPA FOR ONE YEAR ONLY. THAT WOULD INCENTIVIZED THE GRANT TO BE APPLIED FOR; RIGHT? AND GIVE SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF TIME. THEY ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF SCHOOL; RIGHT? SCHOOL JUST STARTED.

THE CASE MANAGER IS VERY IMPORTANT.

>> SO WE DID OR DIDN'T -- >> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE GRANT.

BUT I'M SAYING, NO MATTER WHAT, YOU GET THE ANSWER.

NO MATTER WHAT, WE HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT.

WE WILL HAVE 30 MORE DAYS, YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE

UNCERTAINTY FOR THE JP'S. >> JP'S, COLLECT A FEE, THEY CALL FOR TRUANCY. TRUANCY MANAGER'S FEE.

IN THE PAST, THEY WERE ABLE TO AFFORD A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE, WHICH IS HALF TIME. THINK BRING ANYWHERE FROM $30-50,000 A YEAR. HOWEVER, IF YOU GO TO A FULL-TIME POSITION, WHICH THEY DID A FEW YEARS BACK, AND THIS WOULDN'T HAPPEN, THIS FUND COULD NOT AFFORD $100,000 COMBINED SALARIES OR BENEFITS FOR YEARS. WHAT WE CAN DO, IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE THIS, IF THEY ARE WILLING TO DO A PART-TIME OR SECOND HALF, WITH HARPA FUNDS, WE CAN DO THAT.

AND AGAIN, TRY TO REACH OUT AND DO A GRANT.

THEY RECEIVE FUNDS FOR THE TRUANCY AND RECEIVE ANYWHERE

FROM $30-40,000 A YEAR. >> THIS IS ONE POSITION

>> ONE POSITION. >> HOW MUCH DID YOU SAY IT WAS

>> IF YOU TALK ABOUT IT, IT'S A $40,000 JOB, AND AROUND 60-70,000 A YEAR. SALARY AND BENEFITS.

>> $100,000? >> 80,000.

>> THE LAST PERSON, WHERE FAMILY AND MEDICAL INSURANCE IS

$20,000. >> SO IT'S AN 80,000 -- $40,000

JOB AND $40,000 IN BENEFITS. >> DEPENDS WHAT MEDICAL INSURANCE THEY HAVE. YES OUR MEDICAL, IF YOU DO FAMILY, IT'S IN THE $20,000 A YEAR

PRICE. >> THAT'S PRETTY GENEROUS.

>> YES, WHAT WE DO. I WANT TO POINT THE GENEROUS THINGS WE DO THAT SOMETIMES ARE FORGOTTEN.

THAT'S PRETTY STAGGERING. I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR OF MY COMPANY THAT PAYS THAT KIND OF MONEY FOR FAMILY INSURANCE. THAT'S PRETTY SOLID.

>> EVEN IF THEY BRING $40,000, THEY BRING THE SALARY, THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE BENEFITS REGARDLESS WHAT THEY ARE.

>> SHE JUST WALKED IN. I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION. I'M TRYING TO TEXT.

I BELIEVE IT'S THE TRUANCY CASE MANAGER FOR JUDGE RODRIGUEZ AND JUDGE RUBIO. DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHEN THAT

EXPIRES? >> THE TRUANCY WE HAVE ACTIVE RIGHT NOW, EXPIRED AUGUST 31ST. THERE'S THE PENDING WEST HILL,

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AND ALL THE EGRANTS FROM THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED. IT IS IN THERE.

>> HOW WOULD YOU FEEL, I KNOW WE HAVE TO DO IT BY SEPTEMBER 7TH.

IF WE GO AHEAD AND BACK STOP IT, AN AND IF THE GRANT COMES THROUGH, IT WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE REIMBURSEMENT.

>> DO YOU THINK THE GRANT WILL COME THROUGH?

>> YES. >> I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

IT'S JUST TO MAKE SURE. I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH THE EMPLOYEES. WHEN YOUR GRANT IS GONE, IT'S SCARY. DO I HAVE A JOB?

>> ARPA APPROVED? >> IT IS, BECAUSE OF THE TRUANCY. BUT JUST A CURIOSITY, IT EXPIRED. WHAT HAPPENS TODAY, SEPTEMBER

1ST? >> IT'S LIKE THE LOCAL BORDER.

THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNORS, IT'S STILL UNDER PENDING.

ONCE THEY GET IT, IT WILL BE UP TO 9/1.

>> AND I DIDN'T ASK YOU CORRECTLY.

I'M TALKING ABOUT, IF IT EXPIRED YESTERDAY, HOW DO WE TAKE CARE OF THEM IN THE LAST 30 DAYS. ARE THEY NOT WORKING FOR 30

DAYS? >> DOING WHAT YOU SAID.

>> WE'RE BACK STOPPING LIKE YOU SAID.

>> WHAT ABOUT THIS WEEK? IT'S OVER, RIGHT, YESTERDAY.

DID YOU SAY AUGUST 31ST. >> WE ARE GOING TO BACK STOP IT.

>>ND A WE WILL MAKE SURE, IF THE GRANT IS CLOSED.

THE COURTS OF AUTHORITY. WE CAN GO AHEAD AND CHANGE PAYROLL. TO GET AN OFFER FOR THE GRANT.

>> AND WE CAN PUT IT ON. >> WE CAN PUT IT ON THE 7TH.

>> AND RATIFY IT. >> JUST LET JUDGE RUBIO AND JUDGE RODRIGUEZ KNOW. I THINK THEY WERE SO WORRIED.

IN AUGUST, WE DON'T START IN OCTOBER.

IT'S A TERRIBLE GAP. >> EVEN IF IT ENDED IN SEPTEMBER. IT STOPS AT THE END OF THE MONTH. YOU CAN'T REPORT ANY WORKDAYS

PAST THAT. >> OKAY. THAT WAS THE OTHER ONE THAT CAME TO MY ATTENTION. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ONES, THAT ARE LIKE THAT, LET US KNOW, BEFORE THE AFTERNOON. THAT WAY, WE CAN GET IT ON THE

AGENDA. >> ON THE LIST, OFFER WE HAVE.

WITH THE COURT'S OFFER, WE HAVE TO INCLUDE THE TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES, FOR THE 60-90 DAYS FOR EWRAP.

AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT. >> AND FOREST, ARE YOU OKAY ON TIME. LET ME CALL HOMER.

YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M WRONG. I SAW THE DOOR OPEN, BUT HE DIDN'T COME IN. I SEE HIM ON-LINE.

>> HE'S ON-LINE WITH DEANNA. >> HOMER, GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE.

THERE YOU ARE. HELLO, TALK TO US ABOUT YOUR ISSUE REGARDING SOME OF YOUR JUVENILE DETENTION OFFICER.

>> OUR JUVENILE SUPERVISION OFFICERS.

AS YOU RECALL, MY INITIAL REQUEST, MY ONLY REQUEST, THAT IS, FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, IS THE INCREASE OF THE JUVENILE SUPERVISOR OFFICERS. THEIR RATE INCREASE.

CURRENTLY THEY ARE IN PAY GROUP 17, WHICH IS $15.52, WHICH BY THE WAY IS THE LOWEST IN THE STATE, ONE OF THE LOWEST IN THE STATE OUR AVERAGE. SOUTH TEXAS, IN GENERAL IS THE LOWEST. WE'RE BELOW THE AVERAGE, EVEN IN SOUTH TEXAS. I HAD ASKED, MY REQUEST IS TO INCREASE FROM 17 TO 18, WHICH IS AT $17.20.

YEAH, I DO WANT TO REMIND THE COURT AND AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW.

OUR DEPARTMENT IS NOT IN ANY COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.

SO THE RATE INCREASE THAT ARE GIVEN TO THE NEW CADETS, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THAT WITH OUR SUPERVISION OFFICERS HERE AT THE DEPARTMENT. WE DO APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION OF THE 6 PERCENT ACROSS THE BOARD.

THAT, HOWEVER, WOULD STILL NOT BRING THE SUPERVISION OFFICERS UP TO PAR. THAT BRINGS IN TO ABOUT $16.45 RATE AS OPPOSED TO THE RATE OF $17.20 RATE.

AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE DILEMMA, WE'RE LITERALLY USING THE PROBATION OFFICERS TO FILL IN AS WE SPEAK, TO MEET OUR RATIOS. WE'RE AT ABOUT 50 PERCENT CAPACITY, WITH REGARD TO STAFF ON THE FLOOR.

WE JUST HAVE TO GET SOME OF THE GUYS IN THERE AND THE FIRST STEP IN GETTING THEM IN THERE, IS TO HAVE A RATHER ATTRACTIVE STARTING RATE. SO THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO REMIND THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, JUDGE.

>> THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO ASK DALE SO WE KNOW

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WHAT THAT MIGHT, HOW THAT MIGHT IMPACT FINANCIALLY.

FOR EXAMPLE, GOING FROM 17 TO 18, FOR THOSE FTE'S.

WHAT WOULD THAT BE? >> IT'S NOT A LARGE AMOUNT, BUT IT'S ANYWHERE FROM $80-95,000. THERE'S 18 POINTS OR 17.

>> HOMER ABOUT 18? >> I BELIEVE THERE'S 19 FOR

COUNTY SUPERVISION OFFICERS. >> DALE, THAT WAS IN TWO FACILITIES. OUR ORIGINAL IMPACT ESTIMATED

AROUND 200,000. >> I DIDN'T INCLUDE 3492.

YOU'RE TALKING 15.09. >> AND I WAS TALKING YEAR 2022,

FUNDS YES. >> HOMER ONE QUICK POTENTIAL THAT WE HAD SCRATCHED OUR HEADS ON STATEWIDE WE'RE PAYING A HANSOME PRICE, WHEN WE NEUCES COUNTY FINDS JAIL SPACE.

THAT'S THE FACT OF THE MATTER. IT'S SUPPLY AND DEMAND.

IN THE JUVENILE SYSTEM THERE'S A FEE WE CHARGE FOR OUT OF COUNTY HOLDING OF JUVENILES. IS THERE -- ARE WE PAR WITH OTHER JURISDICTIONS? IS THERE AN ABILITY TO RAISE THE FEE, OR DEFER SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT ARE

NEEDED? >> THERE IS THE ABILITY TO INCREASE OUR COST. MOST OF THE COLLEAGUES AROUND THE STATE HAS INCREASED THE COST THIS YEAR.

WE ARE APPROXIMATELY $100 A DAY FOR OTHER COUNTIES TO HOUSE THEIR KIDS WITH OUR DEPARTMENT. THAT COULD EASILY BE INCREASED TO ABOUT $150 A DAY. THE HESITANT ON MY PART AT THIS TIME, JUDGE, WAS WE ARE IN THE SECOND YEAR OF THE BIENNIUM.

MOST OF THE COLLEAGUES AROUND THE STATE ARE USING STATE DOLLARS TO CONTRACT WITH US. BEING THE SECOND YEAR BY ANY OF THE MONEYS ARE FIXED. I HAVE ALL INTENTIONS OF LOOKING AT THAT. WHILE THE COSTS ARE GOING UP, THEY ARE STILL AT AFFIXED COST. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE STILL CAN'T DO IT CHLTD GOING INTO THE NEXT BILINNIUM.

>> IT WOULD DEFINITELY, HELP US SIGNIFICANTLY.

. >> BRINGING IT $50,000 A YEAR, FOR HOUSING. IF WE INCREASE THAT, IT WOULD BE

MORE THAN THAT. >> RIGHT NOW THE POST, FOR THE COMMUNICATION, IT IS $162 A DAY. FOR THE PREADJUDICATION, IS $100

A DAY. >> LIKE THE $162, REPRESENTS HOW MUCH OF THE REVENUE, REPRESENTS HOW MUCH THE REVENUE.

HOW MUCH YOU WOULD INCREASE THE $162 NUMBER.

I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL OF THAT.

I'M SORRY, WE ARE GOING INTO THE BILINNIUM.

AND WE'RE NOT PAYING -- >> AND A MISTAKE COULD ADEQUATELY COMPENSATE THE LEGISLATETIVE SESSION.

>> AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYWHERE NEAR THE COST OF

BUSINESS. >> NO ONE IS GIVING US A BREAK.

WHEN WE'RE DOING OUT OF COUNTY HOUSING.

NOBODY. IT IS THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. AND WE HAVE THIS SITUATION.

I'M VERY INCLINED. I WANTED TO KNOW LEGALLY, MAYBE JENNY COULD HELP ME. IS THIS JUVENILE BOARD DISCUSSION? COULD WE DO IT IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR THE COST OF -- HOMER, ANY THOUGHTS?

>> I THINK SOMEONE HAS TO GIVE US ANALYSIS, POTENTIAL INCREASE IN COST AND CERTAINLY, IF THERE'S AN ABILITY TO, I KNOW, I WOULD RATHER HAVE IT AS A REVENUE STREAM.

IF IT'S AN ABILITY TO OFFSET A COST, THAT'S AT LEAST, A

REASONABLE -- >> I'M INCLINED TO, YOU KNOW, OFFER THE 17-18, BECAUSE IT REPRESENTS SUCH A VITAL NEED AND AT THE SAME TIME, RAISE THE 100-150, WHICH IS STILL LESS THAN THE COST OF US DOING BUSINESS.

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>>. >> BETWEEN NOW AND --

>> AND BETWEEN NOW AND WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THE BUDGET.

THAT COULD BE DONE AS, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? DAY OF THE BUDGET. IF YOU COULD GET WITH DALE AND LISA HOMER, AND MAKE SURE THAT NUMBER ADDS TO YOUR NUMBERS.

WE WILL ASK, THE NUMBERS VERIFIED.

AND THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO LOOK AT IT.

IT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION TO DO THAT.

>> WE CAN HAVE THAT. AND ALSO, JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, PROCEDURALLY, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE JUVENILE

BOARD FIRST. >> AND I'LL BE CERTAIN, HAVE THEY HELP ME TODAY, WE WILL E-MAIL THEM, EXPLAIN THE SITUATION AND CONSIDERS THAT THE COURT HAS HEARD.

AND I WILL SIT ON THE BOARD, STAT TORALLY.

AND WE WILL GET IT ON THE AGENDA, EVEN IF IT'S VIRTUAL.

>> I THINK IT COMES TO THE JUVENILE BOARD FIRST.

AGAIN, I'LL LOOK AT IT. I THINK STATUTORILY, WE WILL BRING IT TO THE BOARD AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD.

>> AND WE CAN BASICALLY INCREASE THE REVENUE WITH THE EXPECTATION DOLLAR AND IF WE CHOSE TO PROVE THE SALARY INCREASES FOR THE JUVENILE PROBATION OFFICERS. TO COVER THAT, PERHAPS SOMETHING

FOR THAT, TOO >> RIGHT.

>> AND WE, AND I'M TAKING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU, HOMER

FOR ADVOCATING. >> AND WE KNOW, WE HEARD YOU THE FIRST TIME. THIS REALLY BRINGS IT IN LIGHT, THAT ALLOWS YOU TO HELP AT THE SAME TIME, CREATING SOME OFFSETS THAT ARE WARRANTED AND JUSTIFIED.

>> THANK YOU. >> ■AND O,WE'LL MOVEN.

NOW I'VE GOT FOREST MITCHELL. I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYBODY ELSE; RIGHT? OKAY. WE'LL ASK FOREST TO COME UP.

WE HAVE SOME HANDOUTS THAT ARE HERE.

I MIGHT HAVE ONE MORE FROM THE -- ON THE MAKE AWARE, YOU KNOW, CREATE SOME AWARENESS. I NEED TO GET -- I DON'T HAVE THE BACKUP YET AND I'M WAITING FOR IT.

FOREST, YOU GAVE US A BUDGET PRESENTATION.

DO YOU WANT TO TEE IT UP ON THE SCREENS.

DO WE HAVE IT FOR US JUST TO? >> I THINK WE SHARED THE POWER POINT PRESENTATION. .

>> WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND LET YOU GO THROUGH IT.

>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

FOR THE RECORD, FOREST MITCHELL, DIRECTOR OF OPERATION FOR THE NEUCES COUNTY MEDICAL'S OFFICE. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME PRESENT THIS REVISED BUDGET PRESENTATION.

AS YOU MAY BE AWARE THE BUDGET PROPOSAL WAS PREPARED BY THE INTERIM MEDICAL EXAMINER. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, BEFORE THE EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT BY DR. FAGIN WAS EXECUTED FOR HIS POSITION.

AND DR. FAGIN HAS BEEN IN THE POSITION FOR A LITTLE MORE THAN SIX WEEKS. I'VE BEEN IN MY ROLE FOR APPROXIMATELY 3 WEEKS NOW. WHAT I'M PRESENTING IS THE CULMINATION OF THE WORK WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE LAST THREE WEEKS, TO REVISE THE BUDGET AND GIVE YOU INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEEDS OF THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE.

SOME OF THE REVISED FIGURES ARE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED. SOME THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN APPROVED. OTHER THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE THAT NEED TO COME TO YOUR ATTENTION.

SO, IF I COULD GO TO THE SECOND PAGE.

SO, THIS IS THE ASSESSMENT THAT'S BEEN DONE OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS BETWEEN DR. FAGIN AND I.

AND WE ARE TRYING TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THE NEEDS AND SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING TO IDENTIFIED THE OPERATIONAL DEFICIENCIES AND WEAKNESSES.

I WILL DIVIDE THE PRESENTATION TO THE CATEGORIES.

THE FIRST CATEGORY WILL BE STAFFING.

NEXT WILL BE EQUIPMENT NEEDS AND THE FINAL ONE IS THE SALARY THAT'S PREPARED. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

OF COURSE, THIS BUDGET PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE PROVIDING TO YOU TODAY, OUR BEST ASSESSMENT OF THE NEEDS THAT WE NEED AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN AN EFFORT TO REGAIN ACREDITTATION FROM THE NATIONAL EXAMINATION. AND THIS REQUEST BUDGET CHANGE COMES FROM CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS, NEW PERSON FOR OPERATIONAL DEMANDS AS WELL AS ACREDITATION AND COMPLIANCE WITH COUNTY EMPLOYMENT POLICIES. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

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SO, FIRST OF ALL, SOME OF THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THE BUDGET INVOLVE SIGNIFICANT PERSONNEL CHANGES.

FIRST OF THOSE, WOULD BE THE DEPUTY CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER, WHO WE NOW HAVE A START DATE OF 9/26/22.

MYSELF, THIS IS A NEW POSITION THAT WAS CREATED FOR THE OFFICE.

OF COURSE, I STARTED ON AUGUST 8TH, POST IT YET NOR HAVE WE POSTED A SENIOR AUTOPSY TECHNICIAN.

IN ADDITION, DR. FAGIN IS REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL AUTOPSY TECHNICIAN, SO WE CAN MAINTAIN A RATIO OF TWO AUTOPSY TECHNICIANS PER FORENSIC EXAMINER. CURRENTLY, WE HAVE INVESTIGATORS THAT ARE TEMPORARILY EMPLOYEES AND HAVE BEEN TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES FOR YEARS. WE ARE REQUESTING THEY BE MOVED TO TEMPORARY STATUS TO PART-TIME STATUS.

AND SO THEY CAN ADHERE TO COUNTY REGULATIONS FOR EMPLOYMENT PRACTICES. ADDITIONALLY, WE WILL ASK FOR MORE INVESTIGATORS SO WE CAN HAVE 24 HOUR COVERAGE AT THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE, FOR THE INTAKE OF BODIES.

AND ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IS THE DEPUTY MEDICAL EXAMINER, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A 3RD POSITION, WHICH WOULD REDUCE THE NEED FOR TEMPORARY DOCTORS. THAT POSITION HAS NOT BEEN POSTED YET. WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF HR AND REVISE THE JOB DESCRIPTION.

THE BUDGET ALSO REFLECTS, TEMPORARY DOCTORS, THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT IN THE EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT OF DR. FAGIN FOR ONE DAY PER WEEK FOR ONE YEAR.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

IN ADDITION TO THE FOUR PAGE HANDOUT, THAT WE PROVIDED, THE SIGNIFICANT PERSONNEL CHANGES, ARE LISTED BY POSITION AND I'VE GIVEN YOU THREE COLUMNS. THE FIRST COLUMN, COLUMN SEE, THE FIRST COUNTIES FOR THE MEDICAL AVAILABLE OFFICE.

AND THE SALARY STUDY, YOU COULD SEE, SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES IN THE SALARIES BETWEEN THE NEUCES COUNTY MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE AS WELL AS THE BEAR COUNTY AND TRAVIS COUNTY OFFICES.

AND ADDITIONALLY, SOME OF THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THE REGULAR SALARIES ARE REFLECTED IN THE REGULAR OPERATING BUDGET THAT INCLUDES EMPLOYEE BENEFITS AND VEHICLE ALLOWANCES.

WITH MY POSITION AS WELL AS THE DEPUTY POSITION AND DEPUTY CHIEF ME POSITIONS, THAT SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES EMPLOYEE BENEFITS AND ALLOWANCES. COLUMN D IN THE PRESENTATION REPRESENTS THE PROPOSED SALARIES BASED ON BEAR COUNTY AND TRAVIS COUNTY POSITIONS. AND COLUMN E REPRESENTS THE PROPOSED BUDGET, TRANSITION OF PART-TIME, TO TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES TO PART-TIME. THE SALARY ADJUSTMENTS PROVIDED IN THE SALARY STUDY I'VE GIVEN ON PAGE 4.

ATTRITION HAS SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS.

WHETHER IT'S AUTOPSY TECHNICIANS, ADMINISTRATIVE CLERKS, DOCTORS -- THEY CAN ALL I AM PACK THE NUMBER OF AUTOPSIES THAT COULD PERFORM EACH DAY.

ALSO THE NUMBER OF DAYS IT TAKES FOR US TO COMPLETE EACH FINAL REPORT. AS YOU COULD SEE FROM THE SALARY STUDY OF PAGE 4 OF THE PRESENTATION, YOU COULD SEE THAT MOST OF OUR POSITIONS ARE NOT CURRENTLY COMPETITIVE WITH THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS. THEREFORE, WE'RE REQUESTING THE MIRRORING OF TRAVIS COUNTY SALARIES IN OUR PROPOSAL.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. MOVING ON FROM STAFFING.

WE HAVE IDENTIFIED SOME EQUIPMENT NEEDS.

SOME OF THESE HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. SOME HAVE BEEN WORKED FOR THE

BUDGET. >> FOREST, FORGIVE ME FOR INTERRUPTION. I KNOW YOU PROBABLY PREPARED THAT BEFORE YOU MADE THAT ALLOCATION ON MONDAY.

WHAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL IS TO COME IN WITH AN ASTERISK, RED COLORED ASTERISK IF WE HAVE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF.

WHATEVER EQUIPMENT IS NEEDED, IT'S NEEDED AND I WANT TO FIND A WAY TO GET IT TO YOU. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE. $90,000 WE'VE ALREADY DONE.

IS THERE ANOTHER BIG TICKET ITEM WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED.

>> I BELIEVE SOME OF THESE HAVE BEEN PUT ON THE BUDGET PROPOSAL.

>> GIVE ME A REVISED SLIDE. >> AND DALE, AT THE END, I WANT

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TO MAKE SURE, HOW MUCH MORE THIS REPRESENTS THAN WHAT WE AGREED.

IT LOOKS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. I'LL BE HONEST, I'M TAKEN ABACK ON THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT

THE NUMBER, WHEN HE'S DONE. >> WE'VE ALREADY INCLUDED SOMEBODY, COSTS INCLUDED HERE. FOR EXAMPLE, THE M.E.'S, THE RATE, THAT WE CONTRACT, THE DEPUTY CHIEF CONTRACT, THAT WE HAVE. OF COURSE, THE CURRENT SALARY, THE 125. THE REST OF THEM, INVESTIGATORS TO PART-TIME OR ANY ADDITIONAL STAFF, I KNOW THAT'S HERE.

WE KNOW THE DOCTORS AND HIS STAFF IS ALREADY HERE.

AND IT'S THE INCREASE. >> WHAT I'M SEEING, BECAUSE I REMEMBER YOU TELLING US, EVERYTHING WE DID, WILL REPRESENT ABOUT 700,000 INCREASE.

THIS IS A 1.6 MILLION INCREASE. >> 1.6.

IT HAS SOME OF THE COST. AND WE'RE ALREADY AT 700,000 INCREASE. ASKING FOR MORE INVESTIGATORS, AND IT WILL INCREASE THE SALARY SUM.

ADDING SOME AUTOPSY TECHNICIANS AND OTHER STUFF.

THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME NEW POSITIONS ON THERE, ANYWHERE

FROM $2-300 ADDITION. >> BREAK IT DOWN BETWEEN NOW AND WHENEVER WE ARE GOING TO MEET AGAIN

>> BREAK DOWN ON WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR.

>> WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED THE INCREASES WE APPROVED TO BE FUNDED FOR ARPA FOR THIS YEAR, NEXT YEAR.

THIS LOOKS WAY MORE THAN WHAT WE SAID.

TELL YOU WHAT. >> AND I'M SHATTERED BY THIS REQUEST IF IT IS AS BIG AS IT IS.

>> JUST REMEMBER, YOU'RE POINTING OUT WHAT YOU THINK WE NEED. IT'S UP TO US, TO MAKE THE POLICY DECISION. I'M PERSONALLY GRATEFUL.

LET ME SAY THIS. I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS.

I NEED THE COURT NEEDS TO ECHO IT AT THAT TIME.

THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

WE'RE SERVING A REGION. I BELIEVE WE'RE ENTITLED TO THE EXCEPTIONAL ITEM IN THE BUDGET FOR THE REGIONAL FORENSIC INSTITUTE. SOMETIMES WE GET THE UNFUNDED BAND-AIDS AND RECOGNIZE, HEY, WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME BOAT.

WE'RE NOT ALL IN THE SAME BOAT. WE IN NEUCES COUNTY ARE SERVING AS FORENSIC INSTITUTE FOR 20 COUNTIES.

BECAUSE OF THE OBVIOUS, THAT SMALL RURAL COUNTIES DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE AS A MID-SIZE COUNTY DON'T HAVE IT EITHER.

AND YOU'RE -- I'VE BEEN NOT ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER A PRESENTATION YET FOR THE SENATOR. YOU JUST DONE IT FOR US.

YOU JUST ILLUSTRATED WHETHER COMMISSIONER CHESNEY -- I THINK HE'S RIGHT. THIS IS A WOW.

THIS IS SO MUCH MORE, AFTER WE HAVE DONE SO MUCH MORE.

IT ILLUSTRATES TO A GREATER GROUP.

THIS IS REALLY WHAT'S NEEDED, WHETHER WE DECIDE TO ALOT IT IS OUR CHOICE UP HERE. THIS IS REALLY WHAT YOU SEE IS THE RIGHT PRESENTATION FOR SALARY THAT'S REALLY NEEDED.

I'M SAYING, IF YOU WILL GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK FOR DOLLARS ON THE STATE, THEY WILL WANT ALL THIS DATA.

I THINK. I THINK THEY SHOULD GIVE US ENOUGH MONEY TO RUN THE WHOLE INSTITUTE, TO BE HONEST WITH

YOU. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE FEE STRUCTURE FOR OUT OF COUNTY FEES. DOCTOR FAGIN WILL BE PRESENTING TO THE DISTRICT COURT, TO PRESENT THAT NEW STRUCTURE.

>> THE NEW FEE STRUCTURE, WOULD OFFSET SOME OF THE AMAZING AMOUNTS OF MONEY WE HAVE ALREADY PUT INTO IT.

WHILE I APPRECIATE THE ANALYSIS FOR JUDGE'S PRESENTATION TO THE SENATOR, AGAIN, I HAVE TO SAY, I'M SHOCKED AT THE PRESENTATION, THIS REQUEST. I REALLY AM, BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY DONE AND WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY SPENT.

AND I DO THINK IT'S A GOOD PRESENTATION FOR -- I DON'T THINK IT'S ONE, I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD PRESENTATION FOR US.

I THOUGHT TODAY, IT WAS ONLY GOING TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE AND NOW WE'RE DOING THESE NEW PRESENTATIONS WITH A STAGGERING ADDITIONAL AMOUNT TO DO THIS.

>> THE EQUIPMENT IS VERY REASONABLE AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THE EQUIPMENT TO DO THE WORK.

>> I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS IT BUDGET.

>> AND THERE'S DIFFERENT PIECES. THERE'S STAFFING.

THIS EQUIPMENT. .

>> OKAY. SORRY. GO AHEAD, FOREST.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND -- >> JUDGE, I WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH A REVISED, COMMISSIONER'S COURT, WITH THE ITEMS, ASTERISK WITH THE EQUIPMENT NEEDS. SOME OF THE SIGNIFICANT NEEDS, X-RAY SYSTEM, ADA COMPLIANT, AND TO BRING THE OFFICE OUT OF THE PAPER INTO THE ELECTRONIC AGE. THE FINAL SLIDE IS THE ACTUAL

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SALARY STUDY THAT WAS PREPARED FOR THE PRESENTATION AND COMMISSIONER'S COURT. THIS COMPARES EACH OF THE POSITIONS WE HAVE IN THE MEDICAL OFFICE, TO THE COUNTER POINTS IN BEAR COUNTY AND TRAVIS COUNTY. YOU COULD SEE THE SALARY RANGES FROM THE EMPLOYEES, WHETHER'S AUTOPSY, SENIOR CLERK, MEDICAL INVESTIGATORS OR SUPERVISORS. I'VE JUST PREPARED THAT FOR YOUR INFORMATION AND WHAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS WOULD BE FOR A PROPOSAL, IF WE WERE TO MIRROR THE TRAVIS COUNTY AND MA'S OFFICE COUNTIES.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

I'LL GIVE YOU THE REVISED NVGS. >> FOR THE RECORD, I THINK ALL THE EQUIPMENT IS AN ABSOLUTE NO-BRAINER, WHEN WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THE EQUIPMENT TO PERFORM THE WORK AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, TO DO OTHERWISE, WOULD NOT -- I MEAN THE SOFTWARE, AS YOU SAID, IS COMING OUT -- IS MODERNIZATION.

THE EQUIPMENT IS ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED.

I'M READY TO HELP GET ALL THE EQUIPMENT YOU NEED.

I JUST RECOGNIZE, SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN FUNDED.

>> SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE EMPLOYEES, SOME OF THESE ARE FOR SAFETY CONDITIONS WHETHER THEY ARE NEW CARTS OR TRAYS FOR THE MORGUE OR A LIFT SYSTEM, IN EXCESS OF HUNDREDS OF POUNDS.

WE'RE RIGHT NOW CALLING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO ASSIST US IN MOVING SOME BODIES. THESE ARE UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES, YOU FIND ME MAKING THIS PRESENTATION TO THE COURT.

WE'RE WORKING HARD TO MAKE SURE THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES DON'T OCCUR

AGAIN. >> IT'S TIMING AS WELL.

YOU COME IN AFTER ALL OF OUR EARLY SUMMER BUDGET WORKSHOPS.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THE LAY OF THE LAND AND REALLY IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN THE COMPARESONS WE'RE CONSTANTLY MAKING IN THE AVERAGE MEDIUM SALARY ACROSS THE STATE.

IT HELPS US UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE WANT TO GO.

WHETHER WE CAN GO THERE TODAY, IS ANOTHER QUESTION.

WE HAVE TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE. THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR US.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS HERE? ALL RIGHT. GOING BACK TO, TO OUR SCREEN, I THINK EVERYBODY ELSE HERE ON-LINE IS JUST LISTENING IN.

I'LL DOUBLE CHECK IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DALE? THE ONLY ONE I HAVE, WAS -- AND I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION. LET ME JUST SPEAK ABOUT IT GENERALLY. I WILL GET THE RIGHT DEPARTMENT NUMBER. TERESA COULD HELP ME WITH THE RIGHT DEPARTMENT NUMBER. AND IN AN EFFORT TO DO GOOD AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICERS WITH THEIR CADET AND CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS, MOVING THEM WITH A 20 PERCENT RETENTION PAY, GETS THEM CLOSE TO $20 AN HOUR. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S VERY SMALL DEPARTMENT THAT HAS -- IS NOT COVERED UNDER COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, BUT DO COLLECTIVELY VALUABLE WORK.

I WANT TO ASK, HOW WE CAN MAKE THE SEPARATION BIGGER.

I WOULD ASK, THAT YOU LOOK AT IT AND I'LL GET YOU THAT.

OF COURSE, IN THIS PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT, THEY ARE NOT AT THE COVERED, UNDER COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.

THEY HAVE POST GRADUATE DEGREES. IT'S A VERY SMALL LIMITED AMOUNT. THEIR TENURE EXCEEDS DECADES.

AND WHEN I LOOKED AT THE TIME LINE, IT DOESN'T APPEAR THEY'VE HAD ANY SALARY BASE INCREASE IN YEARS.

THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SEPARATION BETWEEN THE CADETS AND THE FOLKS, THAT HAVE MASTER DEGREES, THAT ARE DOING INCREDIBLY VALUABLE WORK. WITHOUT WHOM, WE CANNOT FUNCTION IN OUR JAIL, BUT ARE NOT UNDER THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.

I WOULD GET YOU THE RIGHT DEPARTMENT

>> I WANT THE COURT TO KNOW, IT WILL NOT BE THROWN AT THEM.

JUST GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF TIME THIS MORNING.

IF ANYONE IS AWARE OF ANY INEQUITIES WHERE IT'S JUST GLARING AT YOU. THIS ONE IS GLARING AT ME, WHEN

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I LOOK AT IT. I DON'T KNOW OF OTHERS, EXCEPT

FOR THAT ONE. >> THE SCENARIO, WHAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THE PROPOSED BUDGET WITH THE COUNTY CLERK, IN OR TODAY, TOMORROW, MAKE SURE YOU GET YOUR BANK COPY AND DIGITAL COPY. AND ANYTHING WE TALK, WE'LL BRING IN ON SEPTEMBER 7TH WITH PROPER REQUIREMENTS FOR THE

REPORT. >> APPRECIATE IT.

ANYONE ELSE FOR DALE THIS MORNING? NO. IN THAT CASE.

>> GO AHEAD, LORENZO. >> IT'S NOT REALLY FOR DALE.

IT'S PRETTY MUCH AN FYI. IF ANY FEE CHANGES FOR THE SHERIFF'S OR CONSTABLES IS COMING UP, YOU GUYS MIGHT WANT

TO -- >> LOOK AT THOSE.

>> YEAH, TO OFFSET SOME OF THE EXPENDITURES.

. >> THEY WILL BRING IN THE FEES.

THEY ARE DUE BEFORE DECEMBER? >> PARTICULARLY, WHEN WE ARE NOT AT THE MAX; RIGHT? WE'RE NOT ON THE MAX ON THE FEES.

YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY HONING IN ON SOMETHING.

>> THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. BECAUSE THE FEES THAT WE INCREASE ARE BECAUSE WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR THE COST OF DOING BUS BUSINESS.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY ABSURD, WHAT THEY CHARGE, WHAT IT COST TO DO THE SERVICES. TO ME, THAT'S SO MUCH DIFFERENT THAN PROPERTY TAXES OR ANYTHING ELSE.

WE'RE JUST NOT. >> SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS WORKING ON THAT. WE REACHED OUT TO THEM.

THEY SHOULD BE BRINGING IT TO THE CORPORATION SOON.

. >> AND THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT, FOR THAT GOOD INPUT.

REMEMBER, THE JP ALSO HAD AN OCCUPATIONAL DRIVER'S LICENSE.

REMEMBER, THERE WAS A DISCREP PANCY, THE DISCREPPANCY, ABOUT BEING ABLE TO HAVE A FEE BE AT ONE LEVEL, DISTRICT CLERK'S LEVEL AND ANOTHER LEVEL, AT HIS. WE HAVE SOME PRELIMINARY INFORMATION. WE NEVER GOT -- WHETHER THAT WAS ALLOWABLE OR NOT. IT MAY NOT BE.

>> AND I BELIEVE IT'S HAD TO DO WITH LEGISLATIVE CHANGES.

AS WE KNOW, SOME OF THE FEES, CLERK COUNTY IS DIFFERENT.

>> DOING THE EXACT SAME WORK. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. I HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH NO ITEMS. AND THEN WE HAVE NO ADJOURNMENTS AND MEMORY AT THIS TIME. WE CAN STAND ADJOURNED AT 9:42.

>> BE HERE ON SEPTEMBER 7TH AT 8:30.

>> SECOND. >> SEPTEMBER THE 7TH AT 8:30.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.