[1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:12] >> SILENCE PHONES AND GOOD MORNING. I WILL ASK CONNIE TO MAKE SURE OUR AUDIO IS ALL GOOD BEFORE I OFFICIALLY SAY CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER. AND AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK ALL TO PLEASE RISE FOR VACATION. PLEASE REMAIN STANDING AFTER INDICATION AS WE WILL HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO OUR TEXAS FLIGHTS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME PASTOR MIKE FROM THE NEW LIFE CHURCH. WELCOME. HE WILL BE DELIVERING INDICATION FOR US THIS MORNING. >> LET'S PRAY. FATHER, WE KNOW WITHIN YOUR WISDOM WE FIND COURAGE AND INSIGHT. AND PROVISION AND PROTECTION. SO, THAT IS WHAT WE ASK FOR TODAY. YOUR WISDOM TO GUIDE AND DIRECT YOUR PEOPLE.E PRAY THIS IN THE NAME OF JESUS. AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. NDER THE TEXAS FLIGHT, I PLEDGE RELATIONS TO THE, TEXAS, TEXAS UNDER GOD, ONE BEING, INDIVISIBLE. >> FOR THE CLERK, WE STARTED AT 8:37 THIS MORNING. AND I WILL NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT IT IS AUGUST 17, 2022. IT IS STATED WE ARE HERE AT TRENTON COUNTY COURTHOUSE LOCATED AT 901 NORTH LEOPARD AND INSIDE NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT ROOM ON THE THIRD FLOOR. I DO CERTIFY THAT A QUORUM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED. COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, CHESNEY, AND MYSELF ARE IN THE COURTROOM. AND I UNDERSTAND AND DO SEE HIM. JUST GIVE US A LITTLE HOLLOW. OHN MODEST, COMMISSIONER MODEST IS ONLINE PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY. COMMISSIONER MODEST, WOULD YOU PLEASE JUST LET US KNOW THAT YOU ARE HERE FOR THE RECORD? OKAY, CONNIE, WHEN YOU SEE HIM, LET US KNOW. WE WILL MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE DO RECORD HIM. FOR NOW, THERE ARE FOUR PRESENT AND THEREFORE I DO CERTIFY PRESIDING OFFICER, AS I SAID, A QUORUM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED AND AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS ON DISCLOSURES. FOR ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST OR ANY APPEARANCE OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH ANY ITEM ON THIS AGENDA. IT'S IMPORTANT TO DECLARE IT AT THIS TIME. OF COURSE, IF YOU DO HAVE ONE, WE WILL REFRAIN FROM VOTING AND [E. SAFETY BRIEFING] REFRAIN FROM DISCUSSION OF SUCH ITEMS. HOWEVER, IF LATER IN THE MEETING THAT YOU DO DISCOVER THAT A CONFLICT DOES EXIST, YOU SHOULD DISCLOSE IT AT THAT TIME. INK THAT WE HAVE NO CONFLICTS, I WILL MOVE ON TO OUR SAFETY BRIEFING AND ASK THAT YOU GIVE YOUR FULL ATTENTION TO REBECCA HAMEED AS. THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS AND ATTENDEES. OUR SAFETY BRIEFING FOR TODAY AUGUST 17 IS BEING HELD IN THE NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT ROOM. THE RESTROOMS ARE LOCATED ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THE THIRD FLOOR ATRIUM. PAST THE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE. THERE IS A FIRE EXTINGUISHER LOCATED AT THE REAR OF THE COURTROOM AND ALSO FIVE ADDITIONAL FIRE EXTINGUISHERS LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE ATRIUM AREA. BLADE CONTROL STATIONS ON EVERY FLOOR AND IN THE EVENT OF A CARDIAC EMERGENCY, AND AED IS LOCATED ON THE RIGHT WALL NEXT TO THE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE PICK PARTICIPANTS FOR THAT DAY WILL BE RESPECTFUL FOR DIALING 911 WILL BE COUNTY. IN AN EVENT OF AN EVACUATION, I WILL REGRESS ROUTE WILL BE SLOWLY DOWN THE ATRIUM STAIRS FROM SITTING AT THE DOORS ON THE LE PEN STREET SIDE. OF THE COURTHOUSE. AND ASSEMBLED THE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET. IT IS IMPORTANT TO STAY TOGETHER. SHOULD THERE BE A NEED TO SHELTER IN PLACE, DEPENDING UPON THE SEVERITY OF THE SHELTER IN PLACE, THE COURTROOM DOUBLE DOORS WILL BE SECURED AND REMAIN SECURE UNTIL GIVEN FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE [F. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.] NUECES COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. OUR GUEST SANITIZER TODAY WILL BE DANIEL. THANK YOU.> THANK YOU. 'VE ASKED ÃÃTHANK YOU. I HAVE ASKED THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR TO BRING THE PUBLIC SPEAKER SIGN IN SHEET. I WILL FIRM TO THAT IS PUBLIC, RIGHT NOW AND ALSO ASK ANYBODY ONLINE IF YOU WISH TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. SIMPLY RAISE THE ICON OF A HAND AND WE WILL CALL UPON YOU APPROPRIATELY. COMMISSIONER MODEST? GOOD MORNING AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FOR THE RECORD THAT COMMISSIONER IS HERE WITH US VIRTUALLY. THANK YOU. FIRST UP WE HAVE MISS CATHERINE [00:05:02] OLDER. I AM SORRY.E WILL WAIT FOR THE ITEM. HE SAID YOU WOULD LIKE TO WAIT FOR THE ITEM? >> IT'S UP TO YOU JUDGE. >> I'M HAPPY TO ADVANCE IT AND JUST A LITTLE BIT IF YOU DO NOT MIND. >> SURE. >> WHILE LISA HERNANDEZ, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM AT THIS TIME? YOU KNOW WHAT? SHE JUST WENT OUTSIDE. WE WILL MOVE TO BECKY MOELLER AND WE WILL CALL LISA AFTER BECKY. YES, THANK YOU. >> BECKY MOELLER, 7272 STREET. ÃÃI'M HERE TO SPEAK FOR YOUR A-10 ITEM.'M GLAD WE HAVE OUR VETERAN SECRETARY IN CORPUS CHRISTI. THAT HAPPENED WHEN ALL STILL LIVING IN AUSTIN. I WAS READING ABOUT IT REMOTELY. IT PLEASES ME SO MUCH THAT WE HAVE THAT WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE OUR BOAT VETERANS. IN PLACE OF DIGNITY. AS LONG AS THEIR SPOUSES Ãà WHEN THAT HAPPENS. I DO WANT TO ASK YOU ALL TO CONSIDER THE FUNDING FOR THE VETERANS MONUMENTS.HE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT MONEY AND THEN PROVIDING FUNDING ALSO TO THE VETERANS BAND AS YOU KNOW IT HAS BEEN A GREAT SUPPORT SERVICE FOR ANY VETERANS ISSUES THAT COME UP FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. AND I'M SO PLEASED TO SEE THIS ON THE AGENDA ITEM TODAY. A Ã10. PLEASE SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.EXT, LISA HERNANDEZ. >> GOOD MORNING. I'M LISA HERNANDEZ AND I LIKE TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM 8Ä0. I AM AN AIR FORCE BRAT. AN AIR FORCE CHILD. I WAS BORN AT ELMENDORF AIR FORCE BASE IN ANCHORAGE ALASKA. A LITTLE SISTER WAS BORN AT THE NEIGHBOR STATION AND MY LITTLE BROTHER WAS BORN AT TINKER AIR FORCE BASE IN OKLAHOMA. I WENT TO MY FIRST GRADE UKIAH ELEMENTARY OUTSIDE OF TOKYO AIRBASE. DAKOTA AIRBASE FOR 34 YEARS FOR MERITORIOUS SERVICE, MY FATHER SERVED THIS NATION BUT HE NOW LIES IN REST AT THE VETERANS CEMETERY HERE. I AM HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE MONUMENTS AT VETERANS CEMETERY. I THANK YOU FOR TAKING OVER THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS OF THE VETERANS CEMETERY. MY MOTHER IS THERE AT LEAST FOUR OR FIVE TIMES A WEEK SITTING WITH MY FATHER. ALTHOUGH, IT HAS BEEN NEARLY 4 YEARS SINCE HE DIED. I DO NOT SEE HER CURBING HER VISITATION TIME. JUST BECAUSE HE HAS GONE ON Ãà HE IS STILL HEART LOVE OF HER LIFE. I THINK SHE'S GOING TO BE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS AS WELL. I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSIVENESS. I KNOW THAT ON VETERANS DAY LAST YEAR, THE BATHROOMS WERE LOCKED AND MY MOTHER CALLED AND STARTED CALLING AROUND TO PEOPLE TELLING ME THAT YOU BETTER GET THIS FIXED GIRL. AND SO, I GOT ON THE PHONE AND I CALLED COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. I CALLED JUDGE CANALIS AND JJ. HE PROBABLY REGRETS GIVING ME HIS CELL PHONE NUMBER. [LAUGHTER] I APPRECIATE THE RESPONSIVENESS. I APPRECIATE THE WAY THAT NUECES COUNTY HONORS ITS VETERANS. AND HOLDS VETERANS, LIKE MY FATHER CLOSE TO THEIR HEART AND IN A PLACE OF HONOR. THAT THEY DESERVE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.EXT, WE WILL HEAR FROM DANIELLE HALE. >> ,AND JUDGING COMMISSIONERS. DANIELLE HALE, MANAGER OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR COURT IN CORPUS CHRISTI MANAGEMENT. S WHEN TO COME AND SPEAK A COUPLE MINUTES ON ITEM 3 A7 REGARDING THE HAZARD MITIGATION ACTION PLAN. THE AGENDA OF THIS TEST THANK YOU CONNIE. >> THE AGENDA ITEM STATES THAT THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI IS WITHDRAWING FROM THE PLAN. ON PAPER, THAT IS TRUE. BUT NOT IN AN INTENT IN OUR SUPPORT OF THE ONGOING LEADERSHIP EFFORTS FOR THIS PROGRAM. WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FEMA AND THE STATE FIRST ROLLED OUT THIS PROGRAM FOR COMMUNITY'S ÃTHIS WE WERE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN LARGE REGIONAL PLANS. THE GOVERNMENT SPONSORED THE ORIGINAL 12 COUNTY PLAN. EVERY FIVE YEARS, THESE PLANS HAD TO COME UP FOR RENEWAL WITH FEMA AND THE STATE. THE FIVE-YEAR RENEWAL FOR THE AREA ÃÃTHEY CAME BACK AND SAID NO MORE THAN TWO COUNTIES. TO ME, THE INTENT OF THESE HAZARD MITIGATIONS TO DRILL INTO WHAT THE LOCAL NEEDS ARE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND ADDRESS LOCAL HAZARDS VERSUS SOMETHING THAT IS SO BIG AND ROBUST. IT'S HARD TO GET TO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. AT THE TIME, I SERVED AS THE [00:10:01] NUECES COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR. I'M PROUD OF THE WORK THAT THEY DID TO ESTABLISH A MULTIJURISDICTIONAL PLAN THAT INCLUDED ALL THE CITIES WITHIN NUECES COUNTY. WE ALSO EXTENDED THAT INVITATION TO THE CORE OF CORPUS CHRISTI. AFTER THAT POINT THAT TRICIA TRANSITIONED TO THE PORT AND THAT WAS A PROJECT THAT I GOT TO COMPLETE. WITH THE PORT. WE WENT FOR ADOPTION AND APPROVAL, THE PORT COMMISSION RIGHTFULLY QUESTIONED WHY OUR SAMPLE THE COUNTY WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE EFFORT. TRUTH BE TOLD, IT'S BECAUSE NUECES COUNTY ASKED AND TOOK THE LEADERSHIP. AND WE PARTICIPATED. SINCE THEN, WE HAVE SUPPORT Ãà WE PARTICIPATED WITH SAME TRICIA AND THE NUECES COUNTY AND THE EFFORTS TO ESTABLISH THE STANDALONE COUNTY PLANS, WHICH THEY ACTUALLY DID THERE'S AFTER HURRICANE HARVEY. NUECES COUNTY WAS A REGIONAL LEADER AND HAD COMPLETED BEFORE THE STORM. AND PUT YOU IN A GREAT POSITION TO SEEK ADDITIONAL FUNDING AS A RESULT OF THAT STORM. SO, AS WE FAST-FORWARD INTO NOW THE NEW FIVE-YEAR RENEWAL, IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE PORT AUTHORITY TO RECOGNIZE OUR JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES BEING ALL OF THIS TEMPERATURE AND NEW BASIS. YOUR PROGRAM IS GREAT AND IS ROBUST. WE ARE PARTICIPANT. IT DOES NOT MEET THE FULL NEED OF THE ÃÃTHEY EXTENDED THIS SAINT PAT. LOOKING AT WHAT THE INTENT IS OF THE FEDERAL PROGRAM AND THE STATE, IT MAKES SENSE THAT WE HAVE A STANDALONE PLAN. BY HAVING STANDALONE APPROVED PLAN DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE ARE NOT A PARTICIPANT AND NOT A STAKEHOLDER. WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOUR STAFF AND APPLAUD YOUR EFFORTS HERE IN NUECES COUNTY AND LEADERSHIP IT WE ARE HERE AND PART OF HER PLAN. IT JUST LOOKS BAD ON PAPER THAT IT SAYS TO WITHDRAW. IT FEMA LANGUAGE IF YOU WILL. THANK YOU JUDGING COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR CONTINUED LEADERSHIP. >> JUDGE: THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT, WE WILL HAVE GEORGE ROSA'S. >> GOOD MORNING SIR. >> GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. I'M HERE IN SUPPORT FOR ITEM 810 AND DISCUSSION OF A VETERANS MONUMENT AN AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN. ARPA FUNDS INCLUDE PROVIDING FUNDING TO A NONPROFIT. VETERAN BAND. NOW, I'M SO PROUD OF MY NIECE, LISA. SHE IS MY NIECE. MY FAVORITE NIECE. [LAUGHTER] SHE KEEPS ME COMING HERE. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU AND COMMISSIONER. GINA ENCODED AND OF COURSE MY NIECE FOR WORKING ON THIS. IT'S A LONG TIME COMING. OUR SOLDIERS AND VETERANS JUST AS THEY DESERVE THIS. SO, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO DO THIS TO GET THE FUNDING AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> JUDGE: NEXT WE HAVE LILLIAN GUTIERREZ. >> GOOD MORNING YOUR HONOR AND COMMISSIONERS. >> JUDGE: GOOD MORNING. >> I'M LILLIAN GUTIERREZ AND THE CHIEF DOES CLERK AT THE DISTRICT OFFICE. I'M HERE REGARDING D TO Ãà EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO TAKE VACATION TIME AND HAVE 240 RECRUIT HOURS BACK. N THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE ALONE, THERE ARE NINE EMPLOYEES.NCLUDING MYSELF. WHO HAVE A COMBINED TOTAL DISTANCE WITH A COMBINED TOTAL OF OVER 790 HOURS THAT MIGHT BE POSSIBLY LOST. AS YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IN OUR ECONOMY HAS GONE UP. FOOD, GAS, CAR INSURANCE, ETC. AND THERE'S EVEN SOME DEPARTMENTS WHO HAVE POSITIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN FILLED, WHICH MAKES IT HARD FOR SOME EMPLOYEES TO USE THEIR VACATION TIME. DO NOT PENALIZE US FOR BEING LOYAL AND DEDICATED EMPLOYEES. I RESPECTFULLY ASK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO CONSIDER WAIVING THE SUSPENSION OF A CRUDE VACATION TIME AND ALLOW THE EMPLOYEES TO TAKE THEIR ACCRUED VACATION TIME BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR OF NEXT YEAR. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. GOT AN ADDITIONAL SIGN IN. ONNIE, CAN YOU CHECK THAT THERE'S NOBODY ELSE ONLINE. DO NOT SEE ANYBODY. WHILE WITH GREAT RESPECT, CALLED TO THE PODIUM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. HONORABLE BETTY JEAN MONGOLIA. >> I TAKE MY BREATH. I JUST WALKED OUT ALL THESE STAIRS HERE. >> TAKE YOUR TIME. >> I'M NOT USED TO USING THE ELEVATORS. ANYWAY.'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF 8 TO 10. AND THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE FUNDING FOR THE CEMETERY AND THE VETERANS GROUP. AND I THINK IT'S VERY [00:15:02] IMPORTANT. I DON'T THINK. I FEEL FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART THAT IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT ITEM AGENDA AND WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT. THIS HAS TO DO WITH THIS TESTING SEASON WHAT WE PLAN TO DO THERE AT THE VETERANS CEMETERY. ONE OF THEM OF COURSE WOULD BE TO HONOR THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE SERVED TO PROTECT US AND OUR COUNTRY. ND IT'S JUST VERY IMPORTANT AS FAR AS WHAT THAT FUNDING IS CAN BE USED FOR.O, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR EFFORT. AND MORE! THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. [1. In recognition of Women's Equality Day on August 26, 2022.] AT THIS TIME, THIS CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC, THAT I HAVE. EXCEPT THE ITEM ÃTHIS IS CAN ADVANCE IT, I DON'T HAVE TO BECAUSE IT'S NEXT. WHICH IS REMOVE COMMISSIONERS TO THE ADOPTING OF RESOLUTIONS PROCLAMATIONS AND ORDERS. AND UNDER J1, THE FIRST IS IN RECOGNITION OF WOMEN'S EQUALITY TODAY. WHICH OFFICIALLY IS MORE MARKED AS AUGUST 26, 2022. AND NOW I WILL CALL UPON CATHERINE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS IF YOU WOULD LIKE. AND FIRST ÃÃWOULD YOU LIKE US TO READ THE RESOLUTION FIRST? LET'S HAVE ONE THAT READ THE RESOLUTION AND THEN THAT WILL HOPEFULLY SPARK THE COMMENTARY. BELINDA, YOU MAY PROCEED. >> WHERE'S THE U.S. CONGRESS DESIGNATED AUGUST 26 TO THE 19TH AMENDMENT WAS CERTIFIED AS A WOMEN'S EQUALITY DAY. WHERE IS RECOGNIZING WOMEN'S EQUALITY TODAY IS A DAY OF CELEBRATION TO THE COUNTRY. EMPHASIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF WOMEN'S WORK FOR DEMOCRACY. WHERE IS CARRIE CHAPMAN FOUND THE LEAGUE OF VOTERS AT NON-BIPARTISAN ORGANIZATION 102 YEARS AGO IN 1920. DURING THE CONVENTION OF THE NATIONAL AMERICAN WOMAN SUFFRAGE ASSOCIATION. THE CONVENTION WAS HELD JUST SIX MONTHS BEFORE THE 19TH AMENDMENT TO THE U.S. CONSTITUTION WAS RATIFIED. GIVEN THE RIGHT TO VOTE FOR STRUGGLING FOR LAST SEVEN DECADES. WHEREAS IN 1945 ÃÃTHE LEAGUE OF WOMEN'S IN CORPUS CHRISTI AREA SERVING AS ITS FIRST PRESIDENT. WHERE IS THE BEGINNING, THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS HAS BEEN AN ACTIVIST GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATION, WHOSE LEADERS BELIEVE THAT CITIZENS SHOULD ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE GOVERNANCE, ADVOCACY, AND VOTING. WHEREAS THE GOALS OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS ARE TO EMPOWER CITIZENS TO SHAPE BETTER COMMUNITIES WORLDWIDE ÃÃSHOW RESPECT FOR INDIVIDUALS AND THE VALUE OF DIVERSITY AND EMPOWER OTHERS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MAKES DEMOCRACY WORK. WHERE IS THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN'S VOTERS ASKED WITH TRUST AND INTEGRITY AND PROFESSIONALISM. OPERATES IN AN OPEN AND EFFECTIVE MANNER FOR GUIDANCE AND CANDIDATE FORMS. TAKE THE INITIATIVE TO ENGAGE VOTERS AND DEMOCRACY. AND ACKNOWLEDGES THE LEAGUE HERITAGE AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY. AND ASKED FOR 77 YEARS, THE LEAGUE OF CORPUS CHRISTI VETERANS AREA HAS FULL PARTICIPATION IN THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS BY ENGAGING COMMUNITIES, PROMOTING POSITIVE SOLUTIONS TO PUBLIC POLICY ISSUES, THROUGH EDUCATION, ADVOCACY, AND STUDYING COMMUNITY AND STATE ISSUES. NOW, THEREFORE, BE PROCLAIMED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF NUECES COUNTY. THE 26TH DAY OF AUGUST 2022 IS WOMEN'S EQUALITY DAY. IN NUECES COUNTY TEXAS. N HONOR OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN'S CORPUS CHRISTI AREA AND THE HUNDRED AND SECOND ANNIVERSARY OF THE WOMEN'S RIGHT TO VOTE, WE CALL UPON CITIZENS TO SERVE THIS ANNIVERSARY WITH THE APPROPRIATE PROGRAMS, CEREMONIES, AND ACTIVITIES THAT HONOR WOMEN'S HISTORY AND THEIR EXTRAORDINARY CONTRIBUTIONS AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS. >> JUDGE: THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THAT RECOGNITION FOR WOMEN'S EQUALITY DAY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. HOW WE WILL CALL FOR DISCUSSION AND CATHERINE, WE WELCOME YOU AS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS AND ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THE WOMEN THAT ARE HERE WITH US TODAY. THEY REPRESENT YOUR ORGANIZATION. >> THANK YOU JUDGE CANALIS AND COMMISSIONERS. IT IS A PRIVILEGE AND AN HONOR TO BE HERE TODAY. ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION. INDEED, THIS, FRIDAY, AUGUST 26 IS THE HUNDRED SECOND ANNIVERSARY OF THE PASSING OF THE RIGHT FOR WOMEN TO VOTE. NOT ALL WOMEN THOUGH. THIS BILL, THIS PROCLAMATION, THIS BILL WAS MADE IN MY GREAT-GRANDPARENTS TIME. BUT IT TOOK UNTIL THE 60S EVEN FOR MANY OF OUR SISTERS, LATINO, FOR OUR SISTERS WHO ARE INDIGENOUS, OUR SISTERS WHO ARE NOT USUALLY ÃÃOUR BLACK [00:20:05] SISTERS AS WELL. IT TOOK THAT LONG UNTIL MY LIFETIME TO GET THE RIGHT TO VOTE. IT IS SOMETHING VERY SERIOUS. THIS IS THE BASIS OF OUR DEMOCRACY. AND YET, WE STILL HAVE INEQUALITIES. FOR WOMEN. INEQUALITIES AND PAY, INEQUALITIES IN HEALTHCARE, INEQUALITIES IN BEING ABLE TO CARRY OUT SOME ACTIVITIES OF LIVING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT FAMILIES. THOSE ARE STILL THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. SO THE RIGHT BOAT IS THERE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO EXERCISE THAT RIGHT TO VOTE. BECAUSE THE VOTE IS YOUR VOICE. AND SO, TO EMPOWER OUR MISSION AS A LEAGUE IS TO EMPOWER VOTING. AND TO DEFEND DEMOCRACY. HAT IS WHAT WE ARE ABOUT. VOTING IS OUR VOICE AND THAT IS HOW WE GET CHANGE. THAT IS HOW WE MAKE SURE THE RIGHTS ARE SUSTAINED. SO, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT DAY AND IT'S AN IMPORTANT LANDMARK. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER. THAT RIGHTS CAN BE ENACTED AND RIGHTS CAN BE TAKEN AWAY. SO, TO BE IN COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES TO COMMUNICATE AND TO EDUCATE AND TO ENCOURAGE VOTING. THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE CAN DO AND THAT'S WHAT WE STRIVE TO DO. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT THROUGH THIS PROCLAMATION. WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING SOME OF YOU ON THE 26. FOR OUR NATIONAL WOMEN'S NATIONAL EQUALITY DAY ON FRIDAY. AUGUST 26.THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.> JUDGE: I ALSO WANT TO ENCOURAGE ANYONE WHO IS LISTENING OR ANYONE IN THE COURTROOM WILL COURTHOUSE Ãà TAKE SOME TIME THIS WEEK TO GO BY THE GLASS CASES ON FLOOR ONE.'M STILL MARVELING AT THE HISTORY. YOU KNOW?UST WHEN YOU THINK YOU KNOW WHO YOUR ICONS ARE Ãà THERE IS ANOTHER NAME AND ANOTHER GREAT STORY. AND THEY LIKE TO SAY THAT I WAS THE FIRST FEMALE COUNTY JUDGE. BUT, THERE WAS 100 YEARS AGO, FEMALE POLITICIANS THAT WERE IN OUR MIDST AND THOSE ARE THE HEROES THAT WE NEED TO REALLY REMARK UPON BECAUSE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT THEY FACED. THE PERSECUTIONS THAT THEY FACE. AND SO, THE SUFFRAGE MOVEMENT IS BEAUTIFULLY DOCUMENTED AS WELL AS OUR PITIFUL ACTIVISM AS FEMALES ON THE FIRST FLOOR. ND YOU JUST HAVE TO GO AS IF YOU ARE HEADING OUT TO THE LEOPARD SIDE OF THE COURTHOUSE AND LOOK TO YOUR RIGHT. IT'S GONNA TAKE YOU SOME TIME. BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH. IT IS FABULOUS AND I AM GRATEFUL TO OUR HISTORICAL COMMISSION FOR DOING THE IMPORTANT WORK. COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU ALL HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD? >> A QUESTION. WELL SAID. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY CAN TAKE BETTER THAN HE JUST DID. HAD A QUESTION WHEN THOSE EVENTS WERE ON THE 26TH. IS THERE A SCHEDULE OF SOMETHING THAT IS GOING ON THAT WE COULD ATTEND? >> WE ARE HAVING A DINNER AND IT'S GONNA BE ON FRIDAY.ND I DID BRING AND HAND DELIVER INVITATIONS TO YOU COUNSEL. SO, IF ÃÃIF YOU DID NOT RECEIVE IT, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET ONE. YES, BEFORE I LEAVE, I CAN GET YOU THE INFORMATION INTO THE AGENCY. >> IT'S ON MY DESK. I WILL CHECK. >> THOUGHT IT WAS SO IMPORTANT THAT I DID HAND-DELIVER. ALL THE INVITATIONS TO PEOPLE HERE AND THE COURTHOUSE. JUDGE SANDRA WATTS IS OUR KEYNOTE SPEAKER FOR THE EVENING. SHE IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF AN ACTIVIST FOR EQUALITY. >> EXACTLY. >> THINK ABOUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE. IS THAT BRING YOUR DAUGHTERS. >> I'M GETTING A TEXT THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ONE IN OUR OFFICE. PLEASE PROVIDE ONE PLACE. >> YES, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> WONDERFUL.> JUDGE: WELL, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE HERE FROM MY BRETHREN ÃÃLET ME JUST SAY FOR ALL THE ALL THE GREAT WORK. THAT YOU CONTINUE TO DO TO PROVIDE REALLY THE EXCESS FOR EVERYBODY. YOUR OWN FEMALE HISTORY. THE GIFTS ALL ELIGIBLE VOTERS [00:25:01] WAS PRETTY INCREDIBLE. THE FORMS THAT YOU PROVIDE AND LITERATURE THAT YOU PROVIDE IT'S INVALUABLE. GUESS ON THE HUNDREDTH BIRTHDAY COMMIT YOU PRESENTED ME WITH MY OWN SASH. I KEEP A COUPLE OF THINGS ON MY COAT RACK. MY ROBE, MY SASH, AND A JACKET FOR WHAT IT'S REALLY COLD. THE THREE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS. BUT I AM MINDFUL THAT WE HAD TO FIGHT FOR THIS. AND WHEN YOU HAVE TO FIGHT FOR SOMETHING ÃÃMAYBE YOU DO NOT REALIZE HOW IMPORTANT IT IS. BUT AS YOU SAID, THERE ARE THOSE OF US ON THIS DAIS THAT HAVE DAUGHTERS, WIVES, SISTERS, MOTHERS, AND I HOPE THAT FOR THEM, THAT YOU WILL HONOR THIS WEEK IN ITS APPROPRIATE PLACE. WHICH IS THIS SHOULD BE TOP OF MIND FOR EVERYBODY.E HAVE NOT ACHIEVED EQUALITY IN PAY. OR IN HEALTHCARE AND THAT IS GOING TO BE SUPER IMPORTANT AS WE SEND A NEW GENERATION ONTO THE FUTURE. I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE INFANT MORTALITY RATE. AND OUR COUNTY. UNBELIEVABLE CONGENITAL SYPHILIS RATE FOR OUR CHILDREN. BIRTH DEFECTS. THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND IT'S WORSE FOR OUR BROWN AND BLACK SISTERS THAT ARE FACING THESE HEALTHCARE ISSUES. SO, I APPLAUD US AND I WILL LEARN MY SASH PROBABLY UNTIL THE 26TH. WHEN I'M WALKING AROUND THE COURTHOUSE. I REALIZE EVERY DAY THAT WE DON'T TO THE RESOLUTION. UNTIL THE 26TH, I WILL BE PROBABLY WEARING THIS SASH. SO, THANK YOU TO ALL. >> EXCUSE ME JUDGE. >> YES? >> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL TO THE LADIES PROBABLY DO IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND IF IT WASN'T FOR LADIES AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT BROUGHT EVERYTHING FORWARD THE WAY IT IS NOW ÃÃALL YOU LADIES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. CAN I JUST SAY JUDGE, WE HAVE MEN WHO ARE MEMBERS AS WELL. >> THEY GO. [LAUGHTER] >> AND THEY WILL TAKE THE MEMBERSHIP. YES, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING EITHER. >> I. >> WOULD YOU ALL JOIN US ON STAGE ONSTAGE ON THE DAIS HERE AND IT WAS A CHANCE TO TAKE A PHOTO AND COMMEMORATE THIS 102ND WOMEN'S EQUALITY DAY? YES, UPFRONT, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. MAKE SURE YOU GET THE COMMISSIONER ON THE SCREEN. >> WHY, HE IS THE ONLY ONE ON THE SCREEN JUDGE. [LAUGHTER] [INDISCERNIBLE] >> I'VE BEEN ASKING THEM TO DO THAT FOR ME FOR A LONG TIME. [LAUGHTER] [INDISCERNIBLE] >> AS WE TRANSITION ÃTHIS WILL [2. In recognition of 75th anniversary of Corpus Christi radio station 1440 KEYS.] [00:30:40] MOVE ON TO ITEM G-TUBE. ALSO AN IMPORTANT RECOGNITION AND IN JUST A MOMENT, BELINDA WILL READ THIS RECOGNITION FOR US. AND FOR THE CLERK, THIS IS IN RECOGNITION OF THE 75TH ANNIVERSARY OF CORPUS CHRISTI RADIO STATION. 1440. OTHERWISE KNOWN AS 1440 K EY S. KEYS. >> JUDGE: I WILL ASK THAT YOU TURN YOUR ATTENTION TO THE PODIUM HERE IN JUST A MOMENT. AND BELINDA ÃÃWILL COMMENCE. >> WHEREAS ON AUGUST 14, 1947 à ÃTHE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION APPROVED K EY ES TO MOVE FROM 1490 FREQUENCY. IT WAS ORIGINALLY GRANTED TO ITS NEW FREQUENCY AT 1440. INCREASING ITS POWER FROM 250 WATTS TO 500 WATTS.HERE IS IN 1947, KEYS HAS REMAINED ON THE AIR AT 1440 AM. SERVING THE PUBLIC THROUGHOUT WARS AND HURRICANES AND NATURAL DISASTERS. WHERE AS KEYS WAS PRIMARILY MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY AND DEVELOPED TO BECOME A KEY VOICE IN THE COASTAL BANK COMMUNITY WITH ITS TALK RADIO PROGRAMMING. WHERE AS KEYS HAS BECOME A LEGACY STATION DEPENDED ON BY THE COMMUNITY FOR LOCAL AND STATE AND NATIONAL INTERNATIONAL NEWS AND INFORMATION. WORK KEYS TODAY IS A MEMBER OF THE MALKIN COMMUNICATIONS INTERACTIVE FAMILY RADIO STATION HAS AN INCREASED POWER OF 1000 WATTS AND CAN BE HEARD ON THE FM BAND AT 98.7. NOW, BE IT THE COURT OF NUECES COUNTY HEREBY CONGRATULATES 1440 KEYS IN THE EXCELLENCE OF THEIR 75TH ANNIVERSARY AND URGED HEIRESSES THAT CITIZENS TO JOIN US IN RECOGNIZING THE VIABLE CONTRIBUTION MADE BY 1440 KEYS. >> JUDGE: THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ PAIRED WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF K EY S AND WE INVITE YOU TO THE PODIUM. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? I'M SURE WITH A FEW. >> I WOULD. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF KEYS RADIO. I'M HAD TO DO SO. FOND MEMORY I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS IS KEYS WAS A RADIO STATION BACK IN THE DAY INTO THE 70S UP TO I BELIEVE 1990. UNTIL MRS. MALKIN SWITCHED THE MUSIC FORMAT TO TALK RADIO FORMAT. I GREW UP AS A KEYS LISTENER. SOME OF MY FAVORITE MEMORIES OF A LITTLE TRANSISTOR RADIO FOR THEIR CALLED FLAVOR RADIO FROM RADIOSHACK. UNDERNEATH MY PILLOW AT NIGHT LISTENING TO MUSIC AND THEN LO AND BEHOLD BACK IN 2012 ÃTHIS IS PROMOTING WORKING AT THE MALKIN FAMILY TO THE PROGRAM OF KEYS AND OVERSEEING EVER SINCE. IT'S PROUD OF SOMETHING ON PROUD TO BE PART OF. 70 YEARS IS A LONG TIME AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE THE PUBLIC IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> JUDGE: ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE? I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT. GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER PICK. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M A LONG TIME KEYS LISTENER. SPECIALLY BACK FROM THE 60S OR 70S. WE ARE WERE TRYING TO WRITE DJ THERE. AND ALL ON TERREL STREET THERE. >> YES SIR, IT WAS LOVINGLY AND AFFECTIONATELY NAMED ON THE CORNER OF WALK AND DON'T WORK. ONE WAY STREETS DOWN TO THE RIGHT. >> I GO BACK THAT FAR. AND I CERTAINLY DID ENJOY ALL OF YOUR MUSIC THAT Y'ALL PLAYED THE BEST MUSIC. THAT WAS THERE AT THE TIME AND STILL IS. THE OLDEST WITH GOODIES. THANK Y'ALL FOR WHAT Y'ALL DO AND I KNOW YOU'LL DO A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITY. PRONOUNCEMENTS AND ALL THAT. THANK YOU. >> YES SIR, THANK YOU. >> JUDGE: I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT AMAZING SATURDAY MORNING VETERANS ROUNDTABLE. SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO HEAR EARLIER ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF VETERANS IN OUR COMMUNITY. BUT THE REACH IS JUST FANTASTIC. AND THE INFORMATION ÃÃSO VITAL TO OUR VETERANS. THEY COME TO RELY ON AS LAWS CHANGE AND AS MOVEMENTS COME AND GO ÃTHIS WE REALLY NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT FORM FOR PEOPLE WHO CANNOT GET OUT TO OUR ROUNDTABLE IN PERSON. SO, FROM VALUABLE WEATHER INFORMATION TO VALUABLE VETERANS INFORMATION. WONDERFUL. MUSIC. AND JUST AS OPINIONS HEARD ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. IT'S A GOOD COMMUNITY SERVICE. [00:35:02] I JUST WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS ON 75 YEARS. I VERY MUCH THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS A NICE THING FOR YOU GUYS TO COME OVER AND BE HOME. COMMISSIONERS COURT AND LET EVERYBODY KNOW THE 75 YEARS IS A LONG TIME TO STAY IN BUSINESS. THEY PROVIDED A LOT OF JOB OPPORTUNITIES ALONG THE 75 YEARS. >> YES JUDGE. WE ARE HONORED TO BE HERE TODAY. >> JUDGE: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> I. >> JUDGE: POSTS THE SAME SIDE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. E DO HAVE THE SAME RECOGNITION ÃÃWOULD YOU GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO TAKE A PHOTO WITH YOU? OKAY. I GET, WE ARE GOING TO GET ATTESTED AND DELIVERED TO YOU. THIS WILL BE OUR æ >> THANK YOU SIR. >> [INDISCERNIBLE] STAYING OUT OF TROUBLE? [LAUGHTER] >> YES. [INDISCERNIBLE] [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] >> THANK YOU SIR. >> PEOPLE BEHIND THE SCENES AND NEITHER COULD TAHIRIH ON THE RADIO. >> GOOD, THANK YOU. >> JUDGE: OKAY. WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR GENERAL [J. Accept the following Minutes:] INFORMATION REPORTS. AND ACTUALLY, LOUIS IS NOT HERE YET. SO, WE CAN PASS ON THAT FOR JUST A SECOND. AND LET'S ADOPT THE MINUTES. IF YOU HAVE HAD A MINUTE TO REFLECT ON THEM AUGUST 5 AND AUGUST 10. AND IF THERE IS A MOTION TO ACCEPT AND PASS THOSE, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR AT THIS TIME. >> SO MOVED JUDGE. >> ANY SECOND? SECOND ON THE MINUTES? >> SECOND. >> THANK YOU. >> JUDGE: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NUECES EMERGENCY [1. Announcement of September 2022 Employee of the Month.] COUNTIES SERVICE DISTRICT NUMBER ONE. WAIT A SECOND. WAIT A SECOND. I MISSED IT. I SURE DID. FORGIVE ME. I WENT RIGHT OVER. H ÃONE. YES, THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF SEPTEMBER 2022 EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH. AS THEY SAY, WE'RE BACK. AND I'M SO HAPPY WE ARE BACK ON THIS. I'VE A VERY SPECIAL EMPLOYEE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE. THE FIRST, LET ME SAY THAT THE DEPARTMENT HEAD, AS WELL AS OUR ELECTED OFFICIAL IS HERE ACCOMPANYING US THIS MORNING AND THAT IS THE DISTRICT CLERK AND THE RENTS AND AND MAYBE IT'S BEST THAT YOU INTRODUCE HIM AS WELL AND ÃÃI WOULD LIKE TO READ THAT OUR EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH IS NONE OTHER THAN MR. JOHN MITCHELL. AND IN RECOGNITION FOR YOUR OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE TEST IS PRODUCTIVITY, AND DEDICATED SERVICE, WE DO PRESENT A SPECIAL CERTIFICATE TO YOU JOHN. THIS AUGUST 17, 2022. IT IS SIGNED BY MYSELF. JUST A BEAUTIFUL CERTIFICATE JOHN. BUT THE REAL EXCITEMENT IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THAT GREAT PARKING SPACE THAT NOBODY HAS BEEN USING FOR A WHILE. AND LETS YOU HAVE THAT ALL MONTH LONG. AND THE TRUTH IS THESE ARE JUST SMALL TOKENS OF A GRATEFUL COUNTY. WELL, I WANT TO INVITE AND TO THE PODIUM. LET ME JUST SAY THAT THE WORK THAT YOU DO ON THE SIXTH FLOOR DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED. FEEL SOMETIMES THAT NOBODY KNOWS WHERE YOU ARE UP THERE. HIS UNLESS YOU ARE GOING TO THE LIBRARY ÃÃTHE TRUTH IS THAT YOU MIGHT NOT GO TO THE SIXTH FLOOR VERY OFTEN. THAT MAY NOT BE ANY PLACE THAT YOU NORMALLY VISIT. BUT THE WORK THAT YOU DO THERE AND BEING THE CUSTODIAN AND [00:40:01] KEEPER OF THOSE RECORDS FOR THE CLERK 'S SO VALUABLE. AND IT'S REQUIRED BY LAW. AND YOU HAVE SUCH A DIFFICULT JOB BECAUSE THAT PAPER NEVER STOPS COMING. IT'S NOT LIKE IT JUST RESTS. ND YOU ARE TAKING CARE OF IT. YOU ARE THE GUARDIAN OF THE BOLD AND THE NEW. AND WHAT WE HAD HAD TO DO RECENTLY IN REFORMULATING THE SIXTH FLOOR TO MAKE WAY FOR NEW PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE REQUIRED EXTRAORDINARY EFFORTS ON YOUR PART. AND FOR THIS AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE ÃÃMODERNIZE, BECOME EFFICIENT, NEVER ONCE COMPLAINED. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY ÃÃJUST RECOGNIZING ALL OF THE PERKS THAT GO INTO KEEPING OUR RECORDS. EACH AND EVERY DAY. THIS IS WAY OVERDUE. HANK YOU FOR BEING SUCH A AMAZING MEMBER OF OUR NUECES COUNTY TEAM. AND I HOPE THAT THIS SMALL TOKEN, AS I SAID, THE COURT'S APPRECIATION ALLOWS YOU TO BE ABLE TO CELEBRATE WITH YOUR ENTIRE TEAM ON THE SIXTH FLOOR. THE AMAZING WORK THAT YOU DO. AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING RECOGNIZE JOHN AND THEN OUR LOVE TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS. COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN ON THE SIXTH FLOOR ÃTHIS WILL HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE [LAUGHTER] . >> SA DO. HE IS ONE OF MY MOST VALUED EMPLOYEES. AND WHEN I CAME INTO OFFICE Ãà I HAVE A TASK BEFORE ME. AND THAT TASK WAS TO REMOVE ALL THE HUNDREDS OF BOXES THAT WERE ON THE THIRD FLOOR OFFICE. I'M PRETTY MUCH COVERED EVERYTHING AND PROBABLY COMMISSIONER GONZALES Ãà REMEMBERS HOW IT LOOKS. FRANK CHESNEY PROBABLY MEMBERS HOW THAT LOOKED. I KNOW COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ DOES FOR SURE. BECAUSE THEY WERE HERE. AT THE SAME TIME. >> IS THAT YOU ARE MOVING AND INSTEAD ABOUT. [LAUGHTER] >> IT LOOKS THAT WAY. IT WAS DANGEROUS. WE HAVE BOXES AND BOXES ON STAT. AND SO, I TOLD JOHN THAT I WANTED TO GET RID OF THAT. AND SO, HE BEGAN TO WORK ON THAT. SEE WHERE WE COULD MOVE. THESE BOXES AND IF WE CAN MOVE THEM OVER TO THE WAREHOUSE. WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THEM. AND SLOWLY BUT SURELY, OVER THESE EIGHT YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT. AND I AM EXCITED BECAUSE WITH THIS PROJECT OF PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE ÃÃTHAT HAS ALLOWED US TO MOVE EVEN FURTHER. ON WHAT WE ARE DOING ON THE SIXTH FLOOR. THAT IS TO CONTINUE TO CLEAR THAT SIXTH FLOOR OUT AND TO GET THINGS DIGITIZED AND WORKED ON. WE WORK HAND-IN-HAND NOW WITH ELIZABETH SALINAS, WHO IS HEAD OF THE RECORDS WAREHOUSE. SHE HAS DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB IN HELPING JOHN MYSELF TO THAT PLACE ORGANIZED. AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET RID OF THE PAPER AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. BUT, IF IT WASN'T FOR JOHN MITCHELL AND HIS WORKING WITH ME ON MY PROJECT ÃÃWE WOULD NOT BE WHERE WE ARE TODAY. SO, I WAS THRILLED WHEN MAGGIE CALLED ME ON MONDAY AND SAID THAT JOHN WOULD BE THE EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH. SO, I REALLY APPRECIATE. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT NOMINATION FOR HIM. T IS WELL DESERVED AND HE IS NOT JUST OUR RECORDS PERSON. HE ASSISTED JACK OF ALL TRADES IN OUR OFFICE. ANYTIME ANYTHING GOES WRONG Ãà WE CALL ON JOHN. AND I'VE BEEN TEMPTED SEVERAL TIMES TO GET A WALKIE-TALKIE. SO WE CAN FIND JOHN. WHEN WE NEED HIM, BECAUSE HE IS ÃÃHE IS EVERYWHERE THAT WE NEED HIM TO BE. SO, I APPRECIATE HIS EFFORTS VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. I KNOW. WE HAVE AN AMAZING STAFF AND THERE'S OVER 13 HUNDRED FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES. TODAY IS JOHN MITCHELL WHO WE SEE TO RECOGNIZE OUT OF ALL THIS 1300. AND TYLER, IF WE HAD A NEWSPAPER ÃTHIS WOULD MAKE THE BEST HUMAN INTEREST STORY NOW. PRESS SIX AND GO TO THE ELEVATOR AND LET JOHN SHOW YOU AROUND. IT IS JUST A FASCINATING PLACE OF HISTORY OF IMPORTANT RECORDS. AND THEY REALLY KNOW ÃÃIN MY MIND, WHAT NEEDS TO BE STORED. WHAT NEEDS TO BE MOVED. WHAT NEEDS TO BE PURGED. AND THAT IS HOW WE KEEP RELIEF THE COURT SYSTEM ALIVE. [LAUGHTER] >> ONE MORE BIG ITEM THAT HE DOES IS THAT HE IS IN CHARGE OF ALL THE RECORD REQUESTS. THAT WE RECEIVE EVERY DAY DAILY FROM ATTORNEYS, FROM PEOPLE OUT OF TOWN.T NEVER STOPS. WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE WHO NEEDED THEIR ADOPTION PAPERS FROM 1956 AND 1966.ND WE HAVE TO FIND THOSE. AND PROVIDE THEM. HE IS AN EXPERT ON HOW THE RECORDS LOOKED AND HOW DOES THIS IS EVEN GOT OVER THE RECORDS WAREHOUSE TO HELP THEM FIND SPECIAL RECORDS BECAUSE HE [00:45:10] SO THAT'S JUST NOT SO MUCH ABOUT THEM.O, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT ABOUT JOHN AS WELL.> THANK YOU AGAIN. AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT ANYTHING WE LITERALLY HAVE TO VOTE ON. JUST THE ANNOUNCEMENT. BUT AGAIN, HOW ABOUT A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR AN EXCEPTIONAL EMPLOYEE. [APPLAUSE] >> JUDGE: JOHN, IT WOULD BE AN HONOR TO PRESENT. IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING, HE DID NOT HAVE TO, WE WOULD BE HONORED TO SHAKE YOUR HAND AND TAKE A PHOTO. >> LET'S DO IT. >> JUDGE: LET'S DO IT! [LAUGHTER] >> CAN YOU JOIN US APPEAR? SO NICE FOR EVERYBODY TO BE ABLE TO SHAKE HIS HAND. AND? >> I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> JUDGE: LORENZO, DID WE GET A [1. Nueces County Emergency Service District No. 1] FULL VOTE ON THE MINUTES? OKAY. I WAS MOVING ONTO. THAT'S RIGHT. I'D ALREADY ANNOUNCED IT. K ONE WAS NEXT. THE COUNTY BOARD APPOINTMENTS AND IF YOU WILL TURN YOUR PACKET THE K-1 ÃÃTHIS IS THE ESD NUMBER ONE AND YOU WILL SEE THAT WE HAVE AN APPLICATION HERE. I BELIEVE, IS IT PRONOUNCED MORE? DO THEY KNOW IF IT'S BERNARD MOORE? >> I WOULD MOVE NOMINATION. >> IF YOU HAD A QUESTION TO LOOKING OVER OKAY. >> WHAT WAS YOURS? >> ESD NUMBER ONE. >> THERE IS A VACANCY. >> THERE IS A VACANCY? THE NEXT THING, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WILL READ THAT HE IS IN AN ABLE RESIDENT HE'S BEEN HERE FOR 23 YEARS. AND ICE THAT HE INCLUDED THAT HE WAS A VETERAN OF THE UNITED STATES NAVY FOR 20 YEARS. AS WELL. HAVING RETIRED ÃÃHE IS VERY INVOLVED TO THE ATHLETIC BOOSTER CLUBS AS WELL AS THE NJ CLS. WHO ÃÃWAS THAT A MOTION COMMISSIONER? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING HI. >> I. >> THAT WAS A VACANCY IN THE TERM OF THE EXPIRATION. IT WILL BE TWO YEARS. SO, IT BECOMES VACANT IN DECEMBER. HE WILL COME IN NOW. IS THAT CORRECT? I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT. ACTUALLY VACANT. >> IT'S A PARTIAL TERM. >> PARCEL TERM. NOT TO BRING IT BACK AGAIN. >> OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> IT SAID THAT IT EXPIRES THIS YEAR. >> 22. >> WILL ON OPPONENT DO IT NOW AND AGAIN? UNFORTUNATELY. BUT THAT IS OKAY. [2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.] BUT AT LEAST IT'S STILL NOW. OKAY. AND SO, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. AND I ASK ALL OF YOU TO LOOK THROUGH AT A THROUGH K. AND SEE IF THERE ANY ITEMS TO BE DISCUSSED. AND IF NOT LOOK THROUGH A MOTION OF LETTER A THROUGH K. >> ,JUST PAUSE FOR A SECOND. >> OKAY. I, F, G AS IN GIRL, GOT IT. OKAY. CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR A REMAINDER PLEASE PICK. >> SO MOVED JUDGE. >> JUDGE: ABOUT A SECOND? DID YOU COMMISSIONER MODEST. ALL THOSE WHO SIGNIFY, SIGNIFY BY SAYING HI. >> JUDGE? [INDISCERNIBLE] >> I. >> K. ALL RIGHT. I NEED TO TELL THE CLERK THAT [F. Approve no cost Amendment No. 4 between Nueces County and HireQuest LLC dba Snelling providing for FEMA requirement contract provisions.] WE ARE MOVING K. LET'S TAKE THEM IN ORDER. THE FIRST ONE IS ITEM F. FORGIVE ME, WHO PULLED THAT [00:50:01] ONE? >> COMMISSIONER GONZALES. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? THE NO-COST AMENDMENT FOR THE FEMA REQUIREMENT. YES SIR? >> CAN I GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT? APPROVING NO-COST AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR. IN HER REQUEST LLC IN THE SUN PROVIDE FOR FEMA REQUIREMENT CONTRACT AND PROVISIONS. SO, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? WE ARE ASKING FOR REIMBURSEMENTS OR ARE WE ASKING FOR [INDISCERNIBLE] >> I'M SORRY, YOU JUST WALKED IN. THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE FEMA REQUIREMENT CONTRACT PROVISIONS ON SNELLING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT ONE OR GUIDING BITES ON THE AGENDA TO GET THE RIGHT FEMA LANGUAGE FOR THAT SNELLING FOR THE COVID-19. >> BECAUSE FEMA REQUIRES A LOT OF BACK TALKING DOCUMENTATION. DAVE TO FIND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. IT WAS NOT DONE BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE PRESENTED NOT TO KIND OF TIED THINGS TOGETHER. >> ARE YOU SAYING WE HAVE TO REDO THE WORDING AND RESUBMIT IT? >> RESUBMITTED TO FEMA. AS FAR AS AMENDMENT. >> SO, WE NEED TO CHANGE THE WORD? HAVE WE DONE THAT ALREADY? OR IS IT TEMPTING FOR SOMETHING [G. Adopt a resolution authorizing the submission of a grant application to the Texas Office of the Governor, Public Safety Office, Homeland Security Grants Division for the Operation Lone Star Grant Program.] WE'RE GONNA DO? >> I THINK THAT IS WHAT IT IS. >> THIS IS THE CHANGE. >> THAT CHANGE IS HERE FOR Y'ALL APPROVAL.O WE CAN MOVE THROUGH REPORTS. >> OKAY. AND I WILL SECOND. AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING HI. >> I. >> OKAY. ITEM G. AND GO AHEAD AND STAY RIGHT THERE ANNA. ANNA. SORRY. BECAUSE IT IS THE HOMELAND SECURITY GRANTS DIVISION FOR OPERATION LONE STAR AND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ HAS A QUESTION. >> LONE STAR, JUST BETWEEN THREE AGENCIES OR WHAT? >> INVESTIGATOR Ãà [INDISCERNIBLE] >> WE HAVE TO APPROVE TO SUBMIT? WHAT AGENCIES? >> IT WILL BE THE DA INTRODUCTION. WERE KIND OF ASSIST WITH ALL THE TRAFFICKING AND ALL THE [INDISCERNIBLE] YES. MEAN THE EQUIPMENT. >> SOME OF THEM, SECOND. >> I'M SORRY. >> MOTION TO SECOND. STILL DISCUSSION. THE NICE THING IS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING. SO, IF THERE'S ANY MONEY THEREFORE ANYTHING FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT ÃÃEVEN THOUGH WE ARE LOOKING AT VERY SPECIFIC ONES FOR THE REDUCTION ÃÃWE ARE LOOKING TO ANY EQUIPMENT THAT CAN BE USED FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THIS IS REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY. >> IT IS A CHANCE TO GET THAT INFORMATION AND SEE WHAT WE QUALIFY FOR AND JUST ASK AND SEE WHAT WE CAN GET. >> IF YOU JUST ASK, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. >> IS THAT ÃÃTHERE WAS A MOTION AND A SECOND, IS THAT RIGHT? >> NOT YET. I WILL TAKE YOUR MOTION COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. >> SECOND. [I. Approve application procedure for the following board: 1. Nueces County Hospital District Board of Managers] >> HERNANDEZ, SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> I. >> I. > I I. >> JUDGE, THIS IS MORE SYMBOLIC. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT HERE. THE REASON WE ARE HAVING TO DO THIS IS BECAUSE OUR OUTSTANDING DISTRICT CHAIRMAN DANIEL DYING SO PATHWAY. WE HAVE A WONDERFUL CELEBRATION OF LIFE FOR HIM ON SATURDAY NIGHT AND I JUST DID NOT WANT TO BLOW THROUGH THIS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE VACANCIES THAT HAVE COME UP ALL THE TIME. BUT THIS KIND OF AN UNUSUAL VACANCY. WE DON'T OFTEN HAVE THIS. GERMANS IN ANY MEMBER OF OUR BOARD PASSED AWAY AND WE RECOGNIZE AND READ HIS OBITUARY. AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND RECOGNIZE DANIEL DANG FOR ALL HE DID FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD. HE WAS A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR EVERYTHING THAT THEY DID AND KEY, IN MY OPINION DID A WONDERFUL JOB. AND I CERTAINLY HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE POSTING OF THIS. MY OBJECTION IS THAT WE HAVE TO POST. I DO NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTION IN THAT. I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE HIM TO THANK HIM AND HIS FAMILY FOR THE SACRIFICE. AND IT'S A SACRIFICE THAT WE SERVE ON ANY COMMISSION OR BOARD OR ANYTHING THAT YOU DO. AND THAT IS CERTAINLY ONE. HE LOVED AND WE VISITED WITH HIS WIFE ABOUT THAT. SHORTLY AFTER HIS PASSING AND HE LOVED IT HOSPITAL DISTRICT. HE LOVED WORKING WITH JOHNNY. SO, I JUST WANT TO DO THAT. OTHER THAN THAT ÃÃMOVED TO THE PASSAGE Ãà [INDISCERNIBLE] >> MOTION AND A SECOND AND I WOULD ECHO EVERYTHING YOU SAID JUST TO A BEAUTIFUL HUMAN BEING AND A GREAT ADVOCATE FOR HEALTHCARE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING HI. >> I. >> I. >> JUDGE: LET'S SEE. [00:55:08] . THE HEALTH CARE FLEXIBLE SPENDING ACCOUNT. FEBRUARY 28, 1950 IS ALLOWED BY THE IRS. AND I WILL PROBABLY REFER TO [K. Authorize Coastal Parks department to submit grant application to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) for the Transformational Habitat Restoration and Coastal Resilience Grants FY2022 program.] DALE MAYBE ON THIS.HO IS THE QUESTION? >> THE QUESTION [INDISCERNIBLE] >> JUDGE: J DID NOT GET PULLED? I'M SORRY.. THANK YOU DALE. OMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ ON K. >> YES ÃÃJUST WANTED CLARIFICATION [INDISCERNIBLE] >> COMMISSIONER, CAN YOU SPEAK INTO YOUR MICROPHONE PLEASE? >> I'M SORRY. THIS IS THE COASTAL PARKS DEPARTMENT TO SUBMIT GRANT APPLICATIONS TO THE NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION. FOR TRANSLATIONAL HABITAT RESTORATION AND COASTAL RESILIENT GRANTS. COULD SOMEBODY ÃÃAND OR SOMEBODY TELL ME? >> I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND ASK SCOTT CROSS TO COME UP A LITTLE BIT HERE. AND WE KIND OF JUST WANT TO LAY THE PREDICATE. >> WHAT IS THIS GRANT FOR? >> WE ARE GOING TO APPLY FOR NO FUNDING TO HOPEFULLY GO TOWARDS THE RING CON CHANNEL OYSTER PROJECT THAT IS IN OUR PRESENT OUT THERE IN CORPUS CHRISTI BAY. AND SO DOES JUST MINIMUM AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT YOU CAN ASK FOR IS 1 MILLION PUT MAXIMUM IS 15 MILLION. 'M GONNA WORK WITH DOCTOR LARRY MCKINNEY AND DOCTOR JOE FOX. GAIL SUTTON ÃÃPETER ÃTHIS WAS PETER'S LAST NAME? >> DAVIDSON. >> KEN RICHARDSON AS WELL SUPPORT AND AT YOUR SHELL FOUNDATION ON THIS PROJECT. WE ARE ALL PARTNERS IN THIS. >> SO SCOTT ÃÃIS THIS THE SAME PROJECT THAT WE HAD HAD ON RENT CON? >> YES. >> AND THERE IS NO MASK. THAT IS THE KEY. >> HE LIKES IS NO MATCH GRANTS. > I HAVE GOT IT REALLY HEAVY ON PMR. THE AGRICULTURAL RESEARCH FACILITY. EVEN THOUGH I'VE A PRETTY STRONG ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE BACKGROUND JUST AS THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND ALL THE METRICS INVOLVED WITH WORCESTER MARICULTURE. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS NEVER PART OF MY REPERTOIRE. AS I CAME ALONG. THESE GUYS WERE A BIG HELP AND ME ANNA AND ANNA THAT SAYS EXCUSE ME. WE WORKED ON THAT GRANT WITH THEM TO WHERE WHAT WE DO IS WE PROVIDE THEM ÃTHIS BASICALLY A PDF VERSION OF WHAT HAS TO GO IN THE PORTAL. THEY WILL DEVELOP THE WORD FORMAT DOCUMENT FOR US IN SOME OF THE METRICS THAT ARE REAL AND SCIENTIFICALLY BASED. LIMITED TO THE CHARACTERS WE HAVE IN A WORD FORMAT AND I WILL LOOK WITH ANNA TO PUT IT INTO THE PORTAL. THE GRANTS DEPARTMENT. BECAUSE THEY'VE ACCESS TO IT. I CAN CREATE ACCESS TO IF I WANTED TO. I WAS CAN IF YOU'RE TOO BUSY. IT IS OKAY. SO, THAT'S KIND OF THE TEAM WE HAVE GOT GOING. >> THANK YOU SIR, THANK YOU FOR WORKING TOGETHER TO BRING THIS ON. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. >> JUDGE: IS THERE A MOTION TO PASSAGE? >> YES. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. IS THERE A SECOND? WHERE DID THAT, HERE HE SAID. MY APOLOGIES. WAS HE THE MOTION? SORRY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. YOU WILL BE THE SECOND. SHOOT. EVERYBODY IS SO QUIET. EVERYBODY IS IN FAVOR. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> I. >> THE SAME SIGN. OKAY. WE ARE SETTING RECORDS THIS MONEY FOR HOW FAST WE'RE MOVING. >> YOU JINX THIS. >>. >> JUDGE: I WANTED YOU TO. I'M SORRY. >> HE SAID OUT LOUD. >> JUDGE: I ALSO WANT TO TAKE UP AN ITEM EARLY SO DOESN'T TAKE ANYBODY WITH SURPRISE. AND THAT IS ÃTHIS PUBLIC TO SEE IF WE CAN GET A MOTION AT 11:50 UNTIL ABOUT 1240. THAT WOULD BE SAID THAT ANY OF US THAT WANT TO GO TO THE CITY HALL FOR THE PRESS CONFERENCE ON TEXT.FOR THE BRIDGE CAN DO SO. SO, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T WAIT UNTIL 1 O'CLOCK TO DO THAT.> JUDGE, I WAS THINKING WE COULD BE DONE BY THEN. >> WE MIGHT BE. HONESTLY, WE MIGHT. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CLIPPED THOSE AND EVERYBODY KNOWS. >> MOTION TO DO THAT. >> MOTION TO SECOND. WALLACE FAVOR AND SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> 10 TO 12 TO WHAT TIME? >> 12:40. TICKETS US 10 MINUTES TO DO THAT.UST A QUICK LEGAL ISSUE IN THAT. WE ARE IN A MEETING AND DOING A RESEARCH RECESS. IS THERE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE COMMISSIONERS GOING OVER THERE IF THEY WANT TO? OR SINCE IT'S A PRESS CONFERENCE AND IT WOULD BE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC. >> THE MEMBERS OF THE COURT DO NOT DISCUSS ANY BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY AND IT'S JUST A PUBLIC EVENT. THEY MAY ATTEND. [1. Discuss and consider proposal for 2022-2023 tax rate for Nueces County, NC Farm to Market, and NC Hospital District; Commissioners Court must take a record vote and authorize publishing appropriate notices. ] >> IS WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS. BECAUSE OF WITH THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE THERE. IT'S 20 TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE WELCOME. TWO QUICK RIGHT OVER. THANK YOU. [01:00:02] >> WILL MOVE ON TO THREE A1. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE PROPOSAL FOR 2022 2023 TAX RATE FOR NUECES COUNTY FROM THE MARKET AND NICEST COUNTY HOSPITAL. COMMISSIONERS COURT MUST TAKE A RECORD VOTE HERE. AN AUTHORIZED PUBLISHING APPROPRIATE NOTICES. SO, FIRST JUST AS BEFORE WE GET INTO IT JUST AS JOHNNY DEPP IS HERE AND I'M WONDERING, IF YOU WANTED TO TEST JUST DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT à ÃWAY TO MAKE SURE BUDGET WORKSHOP. HEY, I THINK ONLY A RECOMMENDATION. EXCELLENT COMMENTS. BUT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT RIGHT BEFORE WE GET TO THE ACTUAL DISCUSSION. >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. ALL OF YOU ARE WELL. HOSPITAL IS A SET OF THE LAST MEETING. I WOULD ASK YOU ALL TO ENTERTAIN AS THE CEILING VOTER APPROVED TAX RATE OF EIGHT PERCENT. THE TAX RATE WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK WITH LIKELY WOULD BE LESS THAN THAT. BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS EXACTLY. YET. STOP REQUESTS ROLLING IN. EVERY DAY LIKE Y'ALL DO FOR YOUR BUDGET. AND WE NEED A CHANCE TO EVALUATE THOSE. SO FAR, PURPOSE OF TODAY WE WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE VOTER APPROVED RATE IS TO SEE WHEN. >> YOU WILL COME BACK TO US AFTER THE BOARD VOTES AND THE ADDITION OF WHAT THEIR WISHES WERE FOR OUR CONSIDERATION. >> CORRECT JUDGE. WE HOSPITALS CAN HAVE A WORKSHOP ON ITS BUDGET NEXT TUESDAY ON THE 23RD. AND THEN IT WILL ADOPT ITS BUDGET ON THE 29TH WITH THE ASSUMPTION OF A TAX RATE. IT WILL SIGNAL TO ALL WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT POINT. IT WON'T BE THE ÃTHIS WILL NOT BE THE EFFECTIVE RATE. IT'LL BE SOMETHING BETWEEN THAT RATE AND THE EIGHT PERCENT. >> I UNDERSTAND. >> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JOHNNY? AT THIS POINT? O IN THE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PROPOSAL FOR THE 2022 2023 TAX RATE FOR NUECES COUNTY Ãà AGAIN, DALE, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS HERE? THIS IS THE CEILING ONLY. IN OTHER WORDS, WILL MAKE A DECISION ON THE ACTUAL TAX RATE LATER. THIS IS OUR DECLARATION AND THE NOTICES THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE LAW. IN ORDER TO SAY THAT YOU ARE NOT GONNA GO OVER THIS AMOUNT. YOU CAN GO WAY UNDER. BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA GO OVER THIS AMOUNT. >> YES YOUR HONOR. ACCORDING TO THE TAX CODE 726, THE COUNTY IS REQUIRED TO PROPOSE A RATE ÃÃANY RATE IN EXCESS NO NEW TAX WOULD REQUIRE US TO PUBLISH NOTICES IN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO, IF WE GO BACK INTO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT HOSPITAL Ãà THE DISTRICT IN TAX RATES THAT WE PROPOSE TO GET JUSTICE THIS IS THE MAXIMUM CEILING. WHICH MEANS WE CANNOT PROPOSE A RATE HIGHER THAN THIS. BALANCES. RIVER RATE WE HAVE TESTS WE CANNOT GO OVER THAT WITHOUT HAVING MULTIPLE PUBLIC HEARINGS MULTIPLE PUBLIC NOTICES. SO, WHEN JOHNNY WAS REQUESTING THIS JUST A PROPOSING A RATE OF 106188 FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. >> WOULD YOU MIND REPEATING THAT? >> [INDISCERNIBLE] >> JUDGE: PLEASE REPEAT THE NUMBERS SLOWLY. >> THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT PROPOSED RATE FOR 2022 AND 2023 IS .10688, WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM VOTERS APPROVAL RATE. >> JUDGE: 10688? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> JUDGE: THAT WOULD BE THE CEILING THAT THEY REQUEST? AND JUST TELL EVERYBODY KNOW ON THE RECORD ÃÃTHE CURRENT RATE IS? >> THE CURRENT RATE IN THE COUNTY CONTACT RIVER 2022 AND 2023 IS .11 502. >> JUDGE: OKAY. >> THE PROPOSED RATE IS LESS THAN LAST YEAR'S DOCTOR RATE. > JUDGE: THE PROPOSER IS LESS THAN LAST YEAR'S DOCTOR RATE. IS THERE A MOTION TO SET THE CEILING FOR 2022 AND 2023 TO THE NUMBER THAT WAS JUST READ TO US .106 188? COMMISSIONER MATOS, IS THERE A SECOND? >> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> JUDGE: OKAY. >> DALE, I'M KIND OF CONFUSED HER LITTLE BIT. WE GO UNDER THE VOTER APPROVED PLUS COMMENTS IN TAX RATE. >> WE'RE JUST DOING THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. >> I'M SO SORRY. >> IN THE SUN. >> I'M SO SORRY. JUST THE HOSPITAL DISTRICTS. >> AGAIN WHEN JOHNNY IS SAYING IS ONCE THEY MEET THIS TUESDAY WILL COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION. HE JUST WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SET IT TO WHERE THE LAW REQUIRES THE CEILING BE WHICH [01:05:01] IS THE EIGHT PERCENT. SO, IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY. I'M SORRY, TO RECORD VOTE. THANKS MUCH.OMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ? >> JUDGE: YES, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MATOS? THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GONZALES. I. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY? >> NO, MYSELF YES. >> JUDGE: IT DOES APPEAR TO BE THE WILL ÃÃAGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE CEILING TAX AND THEY WILL COME BACK TO US AND LET US KNOW WHAT THE REAL RECOMMENDATION IS. BUT AT LEAST WE KNOW WHAT THE CEILING IS. AND THEN IT'S OUR DECISION AS TO WHAT THE ACTUAL TAX RATE WOULD BE IN THE FUTURE. OKAY. AND SO ÃÃWE WILL THEN MOVE TO THE FARM TO MARKET. >> A COMBINED RATE WITH THE GENERAL FUND. MARKET. ALL IN ONE. >> SO, YOU WANT TO DO THE GENERAL RATE. WE WILL HEAR FROM YOU ON THE NUMBERS. >> IN THE PROCESS OF PROVIDING THE NUMBERS COMMISSIONERS COURT. WE HAVE THE RATES FOR NO NEW REVENUE TAX AT 271918. OUR VOTER APPROVAL RATES WHICH IS THREE AND HAVE PERCENT ABOVE THAT RATE IS 285535. AND WE DO HAVE WHAT'S CALLED UNUSED INCREMENTS WITH THE TAX CODE TO DO. MUST WE ADOPT A RATE OF THAT RATE. WE DO HAVE A POSSIBILITY OF USING IT JUST AN UNARMED INCREMENT BALANCES OF.291659. SO, AND WORKING WITH BUDGET PROPOSALS AND WORKING WITH SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS TO DETERMINE WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BUDGET ÃI SHALL PROVIDE YOU A ESTIMATED CHARGE AS WELL AS OUR CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE FOR THE YEAR. INCLUDING SOME ADDITIONAL COST LIVING INCREASES AS WELL AS SOME LIMITED NEW POSITIONS AND LIMITED RECLASSIFICATIONS. AND WITH THAT AND THE RELATIONS THAT I BELIEVE WE NEED ÃÃI BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO PROPOSE A BREAK. AGAIN, THE RATE IS AT THE THE ADOPTED ÃÃWHAT APPROVED RATE WITH THESE USED INCREMENTS. CEILING ONLY IT POINT 21 FOR THE GENERAL FUND. THE MARKET AND DEBT SERVICE. >> JUDGE: OKAY. .291569. JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY. OUR CURRENT RATE. >> OUR CURRENT RATE IS.31445. >> OKAY.> I'M SORRY, WHAT IS THAT? >> OUR CURRENT TAX RATE Ãà UNDER RIGHT NOW.310045. AND WE ARE PROPOSING A RATE JUST FOR PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING BUDGET AND OUR ADOPTION FOR THE RATES WILL BE IN SEPTEMBER 7 I BELIEVE. OUR CURRENT PROPOSING RATE THAT I'M PROPOSING TO YOU TODAY IS .29 1.659.> OKAY. >> TWO CENTS LOWER. >> OKAY. >> JUDGE: IS THERE A MOTION AGAIN, FOR THE CEILING RATE? THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AT THIS TIME? >> I WOULD LIKE FIRST TO ASK THE QUESTION MY CHANGES TO EXPENSES AND TRANSFERS. THE WAY WE ARE TALKING WITH THE BOTTOM ÃÃTHOSE LIMITED TRANSFERS AND EXPENSES THAT WERE LISTED ON THERE. >> WHAT WAS THE QUESTION COMMISSIONER? >> WHEN WE DO THIS HERE, WE WERE SAYING THAT IT CAN BE DONE WITH THE CHANGES TO EXPENSES AND TRANSFERS. ELICITED AT THE BOTTOM. THEY CAME BACK. >> THE CURRENT ITEM BELOW TO THE CHANGES TO EXPENSES AND TRANSFERS ARE NOT PART OF THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT YOU SEE AND THE ONE THAT HAS PROPOSED EXPENSES 107 MILLION AND 150 754. OR 354 PER THOSE BALANCES ARE BELOW THE SPREAD NOT PART OF THE HUNDRED AND 7 MILLION. BECAUSE WE STILL NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THE COURT WANTS TO ADOPT AND PROPOSE. SO, THIS ADDITIONAL 3.37 MILLION IS NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL BALANCE. THOSE WOULD NEED TO BE ADDED TO THE BUDGET. SO, MY POZO WHAT BE INCLUDING THOSE IN THE BUDGET. >> WE TALK ABOUT THOSE WHO CONTINUES PAY AND CONTINUE THE CONTINUOUS PAY. >> CORRECT. >> THE INCREASE? >> ACROSS THE BOARD, CORRECT? >> THEY CAN MATCH THE 10 PERCENT. PROPOSING AS A 10. BECAUSE WE NEED AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. >> WILL BE FOUR. I THOUGHT IT WAS FOR.> I BELIEVE YOU ARE CORRECT AT FOUR. >> LIMITED. >> ME RECLASSIFY. 31 INCLUDES THE CADETS AT 10 PERCENT. >> 31 EMPLOYEES? >> THAT ALSO INCLUDES A COUNTY ATTORNEY? >> YES. >> COUNTY ATTORNEY AS WELL AS THE VETERANS SERVICE OFFICER. [01:10:03] >> AGAIN, TODAY, WE ARE JUST DOING THE SYNTAX RATE. >> YOU GET A CHANCE COMMISSIONER AND REWORK ÃÃAS YOU ARE CHANGED WITH THIS Ãà ADOPTED RATE 1.295699. RETHINK TO BE FUNDED. WE HAVE SOME RESERVES. >> I GUESS WE WILL GO WITH THE BOARD APPROVED. CLOSED UNUSED INCREMENTS AND TAX RATE. >> JUDGE: IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? >> SECOND. >> OKAY. >> THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? THE DISCUSSION? OKAY. WE NEED TO TAKE A RECORD VOTE BY LAW AS WELL. ONCE AGAIN ÃÃWE WILL TEST TEST COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ? >> I. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALES? >> I FORGOT COMMISSIONER MATOS. >> I. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY? >> NO. >> MYSELF YES. >> JUDGE: SO, AGAIN, ONLY THEN TODAY IS THE CEILING RATE IS AND THAT NUMBER HAS BEEN REFLECTED IN OUR MINUTES. AND AS THEY SAY, NOW THE WORK BEGINS. >> WE WILL NEED TO WORK WITH à JUST TO GIVE ACTUAL NOTICE PUBLISHED AND ÃÃÃÃSCHEDULED WITH SEPTEMBER 1 OR SECOND. >> WE'RE GONNA WORK ON THAT, IN A LATER ÃÃANY DAY. >> WILL MAKE IT WHEN WE GET TO THAT AGENDA ITEM. >> OKAY. OKAY. >> I PROBABLY SHOULD'VE ASKED YOU TO MAKE THE MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE PUBLISHING OF THE NOTICES. BUT LORENZO ÃÃIF YOU DON'T THINK IT'S CLEAN. >> ANYTIME RATE ABOUT REQUIRED BY LAW. >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO. >> WONDERFUL. [2. Discuss and consider Supplemental Agreement with Hagerty Consulting, Inc. for disaster response and recovery support; discuss and consider Work Authorization(s) related to ARPA, FEMA, and Infrastructure and Recovery Grant Support.] >> YOU WILL TAKE CARE OF PUBLISHING THE APPROPRIATE NOTICES. OKAY. >> JUDGE: IT SEEMS TO BE THE WILL OF THE COURT. SO, LET'S MOVE OVER TO ITEM NUMBER TWO. AND DISCUSS AND CONSIDER SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH HAGGERTY CONSULTING FOR DISASTER RESPONSE RECOVERY SUPPORT TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER WORK AUTHORIZATIONS RELATED TO ARPA AND FEMA. AND GRANT SUPPORT. AND SO, THIS IS AN ITEM THAT YOU WORKED ON AND BROUGHT BACK. IN ORDER TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONTRACTUAL LANGUAGE THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAD. ARE WE NOT READY TO BRING THIS FORWARD? >> I JUST HAVE QUESTIONS JUDGE. >> I'M SORRY. OKAY. >> SO JUSTICE WOULD NEED TO KNOW FIRST OF ALL IS HOW MUCH WE SPENT SO FAR. HOW MUCH DID WE ÃÃWHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BACK WHEN I SEEM TO REMEMBER ÃÃIT WAS A NUMBER ÃÃLET ME START BY SAYING. I'VE NO OBJECTION TO RENEWING THIS. I HAVE QUESTIONS OVER THE AMOUNTS THAT WE WERE RENEWING IT FOR AND THE AMOUNTS THAT WE ARE READY SPENT. AND THE AMOUNTS INDICATED I THOUGHT WHEN WE STARTED THIS à ÃTHAT WE WOULD SPEND I THOUGHT THIS AMOUNT THAT WE ARE ALLOCATING HERE IS MY THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA SPENT IN TOTAL. I MIGHT BE WRONG. >> I'M GOING TO DEFER TO PROBABLY IF TOM WANTS TO TAKE THAT ON THE ACTUAL NUMBER. BUT TOM B IS ONLINE AND YOU CAN MAYBE SPEAK TO THE NUMBERS. BUT IF YOU WOULD JUST ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS ÃTRICIA THINK THE PROGRAM QUESTION HAS NOT TO EXCEED AND WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW. >> I DON'T KNOW IF DALE KNOWS THAT. >> JUDGE: WE CAN EITHER DO A CONSORTIUM OF INFORMATION. >> WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE ARE READY SPENT HOW MUCH WE REPRESENTED IN THE BEGINNING AND WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD SPEND. AND WHY WE ARE ALLOCATING THIS MUCH MORE MOVING FORWARD. OR UP TO. KNOW IT'S NOT FOR SURE, BUT IT'S ENOUGH TO NUMBER. >> JUDGE: IT'S IN UP TO AND I THINK WHILE DALE IS RESEARCHING THAT. TOM, COULD YOU AT LEAST REQUEST WHAT YOU THINK IS IN KEEPING WITH THE WORK THAT WE WILL NEED? AND OF COURSE ON THE FEMA COVID ÃÃWHICH YOU ADDRESSED FOR ME A FEW THINGS WITH COMMISSIONER CHESNEY'S QUESTION. THINK IT DOBS DOVETAILS WHEN WE STARTED THIS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CRISIS IN JULY 2020. I DON'T THINK WE KNEW IT WAS GONNA TAKE TWO YEARS TO DO OUR FEMA. I THINK THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH OUR NTE. GO AHEAD. >> YES JUDGE. [01:15:01] OMMISSIONER, FIRST OF ALL, THE NUMBERS ARE MIXED. THE ARE BUT NUMBERS ÃÃTHE CONTRACT IS NOT JUST FOR OUR BUT WORK. THE AMOUNT SPENT SO FAR IS Ãà HAS BEEN $1 MILLION. BUT THAT HAS BEEN BROKEN UP BETWEEN OUR BOAT AND WINTER WEATHER.OVID-19. AS WELL AS THE MAP. SO WE HAVE SPENT THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT WAS NOT TO EXCEED $1 MILLION, OR WITH SPENT $1 MILLION. ACTION WILL BIT MORE THAN THAT GIVEN THE TEMPORARY AUTHORIZATION THAT THE COURT GAVE IN THE LAST TWO MEETINGS. SO, WHAT WE CAME BACK WITH WAS A PROPOSAL AND AGAIN IT'S NOT JUST ARPA. WE GAVE A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD GET US THROUGH THE NEXT 17 MONTHS OF ARPA. WHICH IS HONESTLY THE BULK OF THE OPERA WORK. AND WE BROKE THE INTO NUMB TO WORK AUTHORIZATIONS TO SHOW THAT THE AMOUNT AND LEVEL OF EFFORT FROM OUR SIDE WILL DECLINE OVER THE NEXT PERIOD OF TIME. AS WE GET THE COUNTY STAFF ABLE TO DO MORE ON THEIR OWN AND AS WE GET TO THE BULK OF THE IMPLEMENTATION WORK. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT ON THE ARPA SIDE AND THEN WE WILL ADDRESS THE OTHER FUNDING AFTERWARD. BUT ON THE ARPA SIDE JUST AS TREASURY ESSENTIALLY EXPECTS RECIPIENTS TO SPEND UP TO 10 PERCENT IN ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. GIVEN NUECES COUNTIES IMPLICATION. ROUGHLY $70 MILLION. $70 MILLION AND ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. WE DO HAVE ANY INTENTION. >> THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THEY BELIEVE THAT YOU WANT TO SPEND 10 PERCENT OF THE OVERALL AWARD. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >> WITH ITS PROBLEM TWO. WE ARE PUTTING FORWARD NUMBERS THAT WILL HIT THE COUNTY AT THE END OF THE 17 MONTH EXTENSION SPENDING OF ABOUT 2.2 PERCENT IN ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. AND AGAIN, THESE ARE NOT TO EXCEED A AMOUNTS. WE'VE NEVER IN AN ENGAGEMENT, TRIED TO RUN UP THE BUDGET TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SPENT THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.O, I THINK GIVEN THE 10 PERCENT EXPECTATION COMING IN AT 2.2 PERCENT ON THE ARPA ADMIN COSTS ÃÃIT'S PRETTY REASONABLE. AND THAT IS NOT JUST HAGGERTY'S COSTS. THE INTRIGUE INCLUDES THE CONTRACT INCLUDE JOHNSON WOODS AS WELL AND THAT 2.2 PERCENT OVERALL. NOW, WILL THERE BE COSTS AFTER THE 17 MONTHS? WE WILL EXPECT THEM TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER GIVEN THAT THE PROGRAM IMPLEMENTATION WILL BE DONE. THERE WILL STILL BE SOME MONITORING AND COMPLIANCE AND THEN THERE WILL BE CLOSE OUT AND AUDIT WORK.UT THAT SHOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS. E CANNOT PREDICT THE FUTURE. THAT'S A LONG TIME IN THE FUTURE. I WOULD NOT EXPECT WORK AUTHORIZATION TO BE ANYWHERE NEAR THE SIZE THAT WE ARE PUTTING FORWARD. WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS THE COURT SPENT OVER THE LAST TWO AND HALF MONTHS. THE COURT HAS SPENT THE BULK OF THE AUTHORIZATION AND PRELIMINARY APPROVALS. AND SAID OKAY, LET'S GET TO THE MEAT OF IT AND START DESIGNING THESE PROGRAMS. WE HAD TO SPEND THE MONEY AND GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B. THAT IS THE BULK OF THE COMPLAINTS OF FERMENTATION AND DESIGN WORK. NEED TO GET THROUGH THAT. THAT IS GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF EFFORT. AND THE NEXT PHASE AFTER THAT IS DESIGNING THE RECIPIENT MONITORING. DESIGNING THE REPORTING AND MECHANISMS. HE SAID GOING BACK TO A COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ SAID AT THE LAST MEETING IN TERMS OF WHY THE WORK AUTHORIZATION BUDGET RAN OUT SO QUICKLY. A BIG PART OF THAT REASON WAS SOME STAFFING CHANGES. MAKES THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES. BECAUSE IN NUECES IS RECEIVING SUCH A RELATIVELY LARGE ALLOCATION IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS. MIX THE COUNTY FILE FULL OF A RECOVERY PLAN ANNUALLY. ÃÃSHE HAD DONE THE NARRATIVE PORTION OF THE. WE WERE ABLE TO PICK UP SOME OF THE SLACK THERE. AND WORK WITH HER AND THE STAFF WHO ARE GREAT IN TERMS OF GETTING IN TOUCH WITH THE NUMBERS. WE HAD A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PROJECTS THAT WE NOT APPROVED THAT WE HAD TO REPORT ON IN THE PRODUCT INVENTORY. WE ALSO HAD TO REDO THE NARRATIVE PORTIONS ABOUT WHAT THE GOVERNMENT WANTED TO HEAR. ON DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED COMMUNITIES AND THE LABOR STANDARDS AND ALL THE OTHER NARRATIVES THAT WENT IN THERE. SO, THAT WAS AN UNEXPECTED COST IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET THAT REALLY A A LOT OF THE BUDGET AT THE VERY LAST MINUTE. [01:20:03] SO, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE ON ARPA. WE DID INCLUDE A SMALL WORK AUTHORIZATION THAT WILL HOPEFULLY FINISH OUT THE COVID-19 FEMA OR PUBLIC ASSISTANCE. HOPEFULLY THAT IS AN ENTIRELY REIMBURSABLE COSTS. LARGELY REIMBURSABLE COST. AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF ASSISTING COUNTY AND MAKING SURE THAT AS MANY OF THOSE FEMA COSTS AS POSSIBLE ARE REIMBURSABLE. THAT IS A RELATIVELY SMALL WORK AUTHORIZATION. AS WAS SAID, NOBODY EXPECTED THAT PROCESS TO TAKE AS LONG AS IT HAS. EMA HAS A WAY OF BEING FEMA. WE'RE ON THE DOWNHILL SLOPE IN THE FEMA SIDE OF THINGS. THE OTHER TWO STREAMED OF WORK THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED ON THIS PROPOSAL ARE THINGS THAT THE COUNTY HAS ASKED FOR. THAT WE WERE ORIGINALLY TRYING TO SUPPORT WITHIN THE ARPA BUDGET. WE JUST COULD NOT. IN THE CURRENT ARPA BUDGET. BECAUSE WE ARE FINDING OUT FROM THE WRAP AND THEN WE WERE JUST RUNNING OUT BASED ON OUR BUT WORK. IT WAS GREAT MANAGEMENT WORK. THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND INVESTMENT JOBS ACT $1.2 TRILLION OF MONEY. AND WE DON'T WANT THE COUNTY TO LOSE OUT ON THAT AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE COMING OUT EVERY SINGLE DAY. THERE ARE 13 TRANSPORTATION PROGRAMS THAT HAVE RESILIENCE ASPECTS AND EQUITY ASPECTS. NUECES COUNTY WILL BE A VERY COMPETITIVE APPLICANT FOR THE TRANSPORTATION IS LENS PROGRAMS. JUST BECAUSE OF ITS COASTAL LOCATIONS PRIOR TO STORM AND FLOODING HISTORY. ALSO DEMOGRAPHICS ON THE EQUITY PIECE. AND LEAVING THIS MONEY ON THE TABLE WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY DEVASTATING FOR THE COUNTY'S FUTURE PLANS. WE HAD TRIED TO DO SOME GREAT MANAGEMENT WORK WITHIN THE ARPA BUDGET AND JUST COULDN'T. WE BROKE OUT INTO A SEPARATE WORK STREAM. THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS GREAT WORK IS THAT IF YOU GET THE GRANT, YOU GET THE PREAWARD COST BACK.ND YOU CAN GENERALLY ÃÃTHERE ARE LITERALLY WAYS TO ADDRESS THAT. ONE STRATEGY IS TO THEN USE WHAT YOU'VE PAID FOR THE PREAWARD COST. APPLY THAT AND THEN THAT REUSES THE LOCAL MUCH THAT IF THE COME UP WITH. AS YOU SAID BEFORE DUSTERS LOCAL MUCH CAN ALSO BE FUNDED OUT OF ARPA. WHICH GIVES THE COUNTY FLEXIBILITY TO NOT HAVE TO TAB THE GENERAL FUND AND OTHER SOURCES FOR A LOCAL MUCH FOR THESE GRANTS. SOME OF THESE ON THE FEMA SIDE ÃDISH WE BROUGHT OUR MITIGATION TEAM INTO TRYING GET SOME APPLICATIONS FOR HAZARD MITIGATION PROGRAMS. SCOTT CROSS AND COASTAL PARKS HAS A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND HAZARD MITIGATION PROGRAM GRANTS PROJECTS. THEY WILL SCORE VERY HIGH WE THINK. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF NOT HAVING THE BUDGET FOR THE AUTHORIZATION TO WORK ON THEM UNDER THE ARE BUT WORK AUTHORIZATION. SO, I GIVE YOU A BUDGET FOR SEPARATE WORK AUTHORIZATION. FEMA ALSO PAYS PREAWARD COSTS. OTH OF THOSE GREAT AUTHORIZATIONS INCLUDE PRELIMINARY BUT FINDING THAT WOULD NOT BE GREAT SPECIFIC. JUST TO GET SCOPING DOWN. BUT I STRUCTURED BOTH OF THOSE BUDGETS. SO, THERE WOULD BE SOME PULMONARY WORK AND THEN EACH GRANT THAT WAS PROPOSED TO BE APPLIED FOR WOULD COME BACK TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR APPROVAL TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT. SO, IT WOULD NOT JUST BE FOR A CARTE BLANCHE TO SPREAD THIS ENTIRE WORK AUTHORIZATION. THERE WOULD BE A COOPERATIVE PROCESS WITH THE COURT BECAUSE THE COURT IS CAN HAVE TO MAKE A PRIOR TRANSITION DECISION BASED ON LOCAL MUCH IS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE AND WHAT SORT OF GRANTS AND WHAT SORT OF PROJECTS ARE MOST IMPORTANT. >> ALSO WANT TO VERY BRIEFLY I LIKE GOING BACK TO THE ARPA WORK AUTHORIZATION THAT WE DID CHANGE SOME OF THE WORK STREAMS IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED IN THE PAST BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. WE PUT IN A DIRECT WORK STREAM IN THE ARPA BUDGET TO ALLOW US TO RESPOND DIRECTLY TO QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS AND PROJECTS FOR THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. AND THIS IS ENTIRELY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE NEED FOR DIRECT INTERACTION BETWEEN EACH OF YOU AND US. I HAVE HEARD TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT MEMBERS OF THE COURT ARE CONCERNED THE THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE WORK FOR EACH OF YOU AND THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE AS MUCH ACCESS AS POSSIBLE. I HOPE THAT YOU SEE SINCE A COME ON BOARD THIS PROJECT, I TRY TO FACILITATE THIS ACCESS. WE ACTUALLY TAKE IT DIRECTLY INTO THE BUDGET IN THIS CASE. I DON'T KNOW HOW BETTER TO [01:25:03] OFFER MY ASSURANCE. THAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH EACH OF YOU. WE HAVE TO IN ORDER TO MAKE THE ARPA WORK ÃÃNOW THAT YOU ALLOCATED MONEY TO EACH OF YOUR PROJECTS, WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B IN COMPLIANCE AND COMPLIANT PROGRAM DESIGN. >> JUDGE IF I CAN. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO MICROMANAGE THIS TO DEATH. BUT FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE AREAS THAT ÃÃMAKES ONE OF THE AREAS DUSTERS I'M A LITTLE SHOCKED THAT WE SPENT WE SPENT IN THEIR'S REQUEST TO ÃÃIN THEORY ÃTHIS IS A COOPERATIVE EFFORT YES. IT GETS SPENT HOWEVER GETS SPENT. AND I BELIEVE IF WE ALLOCATE à ÃEXCUSE ME. I BELIEVE IF WE ALLOCATE UP TO $1.4 MILLION, IT'S GONNA GET SPENT, THAT CONCERNS ME. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE SEEN THE BILLS AND BY THE TIME WE SEE THE BILLS, THE BILLS ARE ÃÃWE CANNOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE BILLS. LINDLY DOING IT UP TO IS CONCERNING TO ME. I ALSO AM CONCERNED BECAUSE I SEE DECISION ARE CONCERNED, BECAUSE I HAVE TO WONDER I SEE ÃÃRACHEL AND TOM ON HERE MOST OF THE DATE OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING. AND IF WE ARE GETTING BOLD BY EIGHT HOURS OF THE DAY FOR SITTING HERE IN A MEETING, THAT IS A PROBLEM FOR ME. I DON'T KNOW AND I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT IT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. COULD'VE GONE AND ASKED THAT BEFORE. I LITERALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT BEFORE BECAUSE IF IT'S HAPPENING ÃÃTHAT'S GOT TO STOP ÃTHIS WE NEED TO PUT IT TO WHERE WE NEED THEM FOR TWO HOURS BUT THEN WE NEED THEM FOR TWO HOURS. THEY SHOULD BE BILLING US AND THEY MAY NOT BE. I DON'T KNOW. BUT THEY SHOULD BE BILLING US TO SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO US FOR EIGHT HOURS A DAY. BECAUSE THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY NEED TO WORK ON STREAMLINING THAT IF THAT IS OCCURRING BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE IF THEY ARE SITTING HERE NOT BILLING US. BUT DOING OTHER WORK JUST TUNE IN WHEN THEY CAN. AS A QUESTION. THOUGH SOME QUESTIONS FOR ANNE AND I DAY ON THIS. AN IDEA, YOU TALKED ABOUT AN ARPA MANAGER AND I KNOW THAT THERE IS GREAT INVOLVEMENT IN THIS. I WOULD KIND OF LIKE TO GET YELLS INPUT ON HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU THAT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE AS I SIT HERE TODAY APPROVING 91.4 MILLIONAND WHAT I KNOW. SO IF I HEAR DIFFERENT THINGS AND THAT'S NOT BECAUSE I THINK THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB ÃJUST THINK WE'VE SPENT TOO MUCH. I THINK WE'VE USED THEM TOO MUCH. DOING TO DIG INTO THIS BILLS LITTLE BIT AND NEED TO KNOW DELL. CAN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION GETS HIM TO ANSWER? ARE THE BILLING US FOR EIGHT HOURS A DAY AND SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO A WHOLE MEETING. HOLY COW, THAT CAN ADD UP PRETTY QUICK. >> LET'S SEE WITH THEIR BILLING FIRST IF YOU CAN. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. WHOEVER WANTS TO GO FIRST. HAT YOU THINK WE NEED HERE. OU DO SOME OF THIS AND YOU WANT TO HAVE AN ARPA MANAGER. I DON'T WANT TO DUPLICATE YOU KNOW? >> CAN ASK A QUESTION. >> SHOULD PUT. >> ON THE ARPA MANAGER ÃÃMY PERCEPTION WAS ONCE WE GET THE UPPER MANAGEMENT ÃDISH IF YOU CAN ACTUALLY LEAVE OUT INTEGRITY AS FAR AS WE NEED. AND THEN THE UPPER MANAGER JUSTICE MOSTLY. SO, WE DON'T REALLY NEED THIS DISH BECAUSE I HEARD TOM CEIBA TRAINING. WHATEVER IT IS. BRING SOMEBODY ELSE UP TO PAR FROM THE COUNTY. SO, IF THERE'S ONE IN YOUR POSITION IN THE UPPER MANAGER. YOU NEED TO DO THE NEXT THREE MONTHS OR FOUR MONTHS. WITH HAGGERTY TESTED SWIFT TO WORK WITH THE MANAGER? >> I RECOMMEND WORK AUTHORIZATION NUMBER 15. >> I WOULD RECOMMEND NUMBER 15. THE ONE THAT COVERS 23. BECAUSE THAT THE IDEA IS TO HAVE THE RESCUE FUND MANAGER AND HELP. >> YOU WOULD RECOMMEND? >> NUMBER 15. FEBRUARY 2023. THAT IS IT. THAT IS THE ONE I WOULD RECOMMEND. NUMBER 16 ÁLET'S SEE WHERE WE ARE AT THE NEXT YEAR. IF THE COURT APPROVES. THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLANT MANAGER. >> WE LOOKING AT? I'M SORRY. >> THAT WOULD BE MY INPUT. >> IT'S IN THE BACK. IT'S THE PROPOSED WORK AUTHORIZATIONS. >> THEY ARE DOING A GREAT JOB AND THEN REALLY ALLOWING THEM. >> YOU DON'T RECOMMEND THE OTHER FOUR? >> ON THE 16TH ÃÃLET'S SEE PER THAT WOULD BE MY INPUT. IN THE FUTURE. THE SUPER?ESCUE MANAGER PLAN. THAT IS THE ONE PROPOSING. HAVE A RESCUE PLAN MANAGER THAT CAN BE THE IN-HOUSE PERSON THAT TAKES A LOT OF THE DUTIES. THAT IS MY PURPOSE. >> HOW WOULD YOU LIKE. >> HOW YOU PLAN TO BRING IT TO THE COURT OR WHEN? OBVIOUSLY ÃÃTHEY ARE NOT GONNA DO THE AUTHORIZED THEM TO DO FOR THIS DAY. [01:30:07] >> CORRECT. >> YOU SAYING THAT WE SHOULDN'T DO THAT AT ALL OR LIMIT AND DO THAT FOR ANOTHER 30 DAYS UNTIL ÃÃOR SHOULD WE NOT HAVE TO EXCEED THE AMOUNT BEING WITH THE NEXT? I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANT TO DO. BECAUSE I LIKE THE ARPA MANAGER DEPENDING ON WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO HAVING IN THE HOUSE. AND POTENTIALLY PAYING A LARGE HOURLY RATE. MY THING IS AND WHAT WE CAN SPEND TAXPAYER PROJECTS AND TAXPAYER TAX. ÃÃTHE MORSE WE CAN SPEND ON PROJECTS ÃÃTHE MORE THAT WE CAN SPENT ON ADMINISTRATION, THE BETTER. E HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT. AND I GET IT. LITTLE CONCERNED THAT WE'VE ALREADY SPENT $1 MILLION. THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY. ON THESE CONSULTANTS. ÃÃTHAT IS WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA SPEND THE WHOLE THING. MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD THAT. THAT COULD BE. BECAUSE MAYBE THOSE A YEAR AND HALF. WHENEVER WE STARTED. AT WE PROPOSE WE DO THAT? INCE WE DO NOT HAVE THE ARPA MANAGER TODAY? >> IS THE $1 MILLION INCLUDE à ÃWE ARE GIVEN EXTENSIONS THAT CAN TAKE OVER THE EAR WRAP FOR THE CITY. WE EXTENDED IT. AS THE $1 MILLION PART OF THAT ALSO? SWING IT TO THE REP FUNDS. I THINK IT WAS $24,000. >> I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE HE SPENT ALL THOSE FUNDS. WE WORK THROUGH AND YOU CAN CONFIRM THAT. WORK AUTHORIZATION. >> THE WORK AUTHORIZATION FOR THEM AND THAT YOU REP. >> LIMIT TELL YOU WHAT YOUR PLAN IS. WHAT IS YOUR PLAN ÃÃIN OTHER WORDS, HOW DO WE DO THIS 16 TODAY? SINCE WE DON'T HAVE AN ARPA MANAGER. IF WE DON'T EXTEND THEM. >> WHAT I RECOMMEND THEM IS TO AUTHORIZE AN EVENT. 15. >> I WILL NEED TO LOOK INTO THE 485,000 REALLY. >> WORK WITH TOM ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THAT NUMBER. REALLY I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK INTO THAT NUMBER AND BE COMPARABLE ÃÃA LOT OF COUNTIES ARE USING ASSISTANCE FROM THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AS WE GET THEM FROM HAGGERTY. WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE HOW WE GOT TO THE 485,000.T HAS TO BE A REASONABLE ÃÃI BELIEVE ÃÃI'VE NOT HAD THE TIME TO WORK WITH HIM ABOUT THE 435 ÃÃ$485,000. >> YOU WOULD RECOMMEND EXTENDING 15? >> YOU WOULD LIKE TO PUT A HOLD, PUT A HOLD? PUT A HOLD ON IT BUT TO EXCEED TODAY TO WORK WITH HIM? >> CORRECT. >> I BELIEVE JOINT BECAUSE HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB. HE IS HELPING A LOT. WE HAD A LOT OF MEETINGS WITH THEM.HEY REALLY PROVIDED A LOT OF ASSISTANCE TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND GRANTS AS WELL. WE JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM AGAIN. LOOKING INTO THE NUMBER. ÃÃYOU KNOW WHAT? I'M VERY CONFIDENT ABOUT THE 485,000. I'M REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH THEM BECAUSE THE PROVIDED A LOT. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INPUT PUT INTO THE 485,000. >> LET ME ASK YOU THIS. IF THAT IS THE CASE JUST AS I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO GET YOUR INPUT AND AT LEAST BE ABLE TO DISCUSS W8 19. LET ME BE VERY CLEAR. THE MILLION DOLLARS THAT HAS BEEN EXPENDED COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HAS BEEN EXPENDED ON FOUR MAJOR PROJECTS. THE REP, COVID-19 ÃÃWINTER STORM AS WELL AS ARPA. WE NEED TO ANALYZE IS NOT BEEN SAID HERE. IS THAT HAGGERTY GOT US $5 MILLION FROM COVID-19 ADVANCED PROJECT WORKSHEET. THE DOLLARS THAT WE WILL SPEND ON HAGGERTY FOR FEMA WILL COME BACK IN A CATEGORIES THE APPLICATION. SO, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOUR DIFFERENT PROJECTS.OBODY COULD HAVE ANTICIPATED WINTER STORM WHEN WE SIGNED ON WITH HAGGERTY. THEY WERE TO GET MONEY IN OUR TREASURY FOR LITERALLY 90 PERCENT OF OUR WINTER STORM DOLLARS. INCLUDED THEIR OWN CATEGORY THE APPLICATION FOR THEM AS WELL. THERE IS SOMETHING BEING LOST HERE. THAT IS THE DOLLARS PER. >> THERE'S NOTHING BEING OFFERED OVER THE REPORT AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING. SO I SERVED MY COMMENTS WITH. I SUPPORT REHIRING THEM BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY'VE DONE GOOD WORK. SO, THERE'S BEEN NOTHING LOST IN TRANSLATION. NOW, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND BEING ASKED TO APPROVE UP TO $1.4 MILLION. AND BEFORE I DO THAT I HAVE [01:35:01] QUESTIONS. >> I HEAR YOU. >> ON MAKE SURE THAT W A 19 IS ADDRESSED. WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF RECOVERING $5 MILLION. >> THAT'S WHY I'M GOING ONE BY ONE. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO ALL OF THEM. >> WE ARE GOING TO ALL OF THEM. >> GOOD, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT. >> THESE ARE AGAIN, UP TO TWO. >> IF YOU WANT TO JUMP IN ON ANY OF THESE. >> I JUST WANTED TO PUT.> 15 AND 16 IN IT. IF YOU NEED TO COMMENT ÃTHIS AND JUST TRYING TO GET QUESTIONS ANSWERED ON THIS SO THAT I CAN FORMULATE. >> I AGREE THAT THE EXTENSION FOR THE HAGGERTY TEAM W A 15 SHOULD BE APPROVED. THERE IS A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT THEY ARE BETTING AND WE HAVE NOT EVEN GOT STARTED. WE HAVE NOT EVEN GOTTEN STARTED TO PROCESS THEM. AND THE MORE PROJECTS THAT THERE ARE THE SYSTEM WORK VETTING THERE IS. THE MORE TIME-CONSUMING IT IS. MORE REPORTING IT IS. AND YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT TO GET A PROJECT MANAGER TO DO ALL THE ARPA WORK. BUT TO BRING SOMEBODY IN MARCH AND START UP, THAT'S YOU TAKE EVEN LONGER. SO, I WOULD SUGGEST GETTING SOMEBODY HARD, WORKING WITH HAGGERTY PROCESS GET INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING. AND SEE FROM THERE. CLEARLY ARE AT. >> 16 TO 19. ANY OF THOSE AND THAT YOU HAVE COMMENT ON? >> ON THE FEMA, WE DID GET. TELL ME WHAT NUMBER YOU WERE GONNA TALK? >> [INDISCERNIBLE] >> ON HERE BOTH OF YOUR INPUT ON 16 TO 19 AS TO WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE. >> AND THE W 18TH, THE 15 GRADES. THEY BEEN WORKING ON A LOT OF GRANTS LIKE THE JUDGE SEPARATE WINTER WEATHER WAS YOU KNOW? THROWN IN THERE. AND WE DID THE 303,000 DEPOSITED INTO OUR ACCOUNT. 305 438.63. DEPOSITED.ND AUGUST 5. THAT WAS FOR THE WINTER STORM YURI. SO, I JUST AS THEY ARE DOING A LOT OF WORK AND WITH ALL THE CHANGES AND REPORTING TEST INSTITUTE UNDERSTAND OF THE WORK THAT THEY DO AND PROFESSIONALISM THAT THEY HAVE. >> THE RECOMMEND 18? WHICH IS THE ONE YOU JUST TALK ABOUT. THE VA 18? OR WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON 18? >> I'M NOT TO ÃÃI WOULD HOPE. WINTER WEATHER ÃÃWE'RE TRYING TO FINISH UP AND THIS IS THROUGH 2024. SO, I'M NOT ÃÃI WOULD WAIT. >> YOU ARE SAYING WHAT? WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION? 18? >> ON 18. >> TO DO WHAT TODAY? >> THIS IS FROM OKAY. >> IN OTHER WORDS, THIS PROPOSAL. >> I WOULD SUGGEST THE SAME AS THE ARPA ON FEBRUARY 2023. >> YOU WOULD SUGGEST WHAT? >> JULY 22 THROUGH FEBRUARY 2 2023 AS A 15. >> NOT 24? >> THAT WOULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT AND POTENTIALLY IF YOU ARE ONLY SAYING TO PROVE TO 23 RIGHT NOW. >> YES. >> ANNA, THESE FEMA GRANTS AND ARE THE ONES CLICK BREAK. THERE BE NO WAY TO FINISH THE FEMA GRANT BY FEBRUARY 2023. IN OTHER WORDS, THERE ARE TWO QUESTIONS BEING POSED. HE'S ASKING THAT 18. 19 IS THE CONTINUATION SO THAT WE CAN FINISH OUR COVID-19 WORK. THE COVID-19 WORK IS THE WORK THAT WE WILL CONTINUE AS YOU WELL KNOW. WE WILL NOT FINISHED BY FEBRUARY 2023. >> ON THINK SHE'S SAYING NEVER TO DO IT. WHAT I'M HEARING IS CHEMICAL LITTLE LATER IN THE TIMEFRAME AND THEN COME BACK AGAIN IF WE HAVE TO EXTEND AT THAT POINT. THEY ARE NOT SENT 10. THE FIRST TIME. SO THIS DISH MY RECOMMENDATION IS YES. I THINK HAGGERTY SHOULD CONTINUE THIS. GET BETTER PREPARED. THE AIR MANAGER INVOLVED IN SITUATED WITH ALL THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS. AND SEE WHERE WE'RE AT. >> THAT'S HOW I THINK. SO, YES, YOU HAVE ANY OTHER DEPOSITION YOU MIGHT HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS ALSO BECAUSE THEY MIGHT NOT AFFECT ALL OF YOU. 16 OR 17 OR 19? >> LIKE I SAID ÃÃ16 FALLS BACK TO THE 15. SO, THE 15 ÃÃTHE 23RD. THE PROJECT MANAGER WOULD HAVE TO HIRE AND BE HAVE TO BE HIRED READILY. IN ORDER TO BE INVOLVED WITH ANYTHING ONGOING AT THIS TIME. >> MORE DATES CENTERED AROUND LET'S NOT GO. LET'S EXTEND THE AMOUNT SO FAR. LET'S EXTEND THEM THROUGH FEBRUARY 23 AND SEE WHERE WE ARE. >> SEE WHERE WE ARE? >> USING ON ALL THESE? >> ON THE 15TH. [01:40:01] AUGUST 16 WOULD BE BECAUSE I'M LIMITING THE 15. AND THEN THE FEMA ONE. >> AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OPINION. THAT'S OKAY IF YOU DON'T. >> I DO NOT HAVE AN OPINION ON THE OTHER ONES. >> 17 WHICH IS GRANTS. >> I'M SORRY. >> 17 IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS OF WHICH MANY ARE. THERE IS A BOOK ON THIS, RIGHT? >> JUDGE: THE IDEA IS WHEN WE WENT OUT FOR RFP TO GET A GREAT MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT ÃÃTHE CONCEPT HERE IS THAT YOU HAVE A NOT TO EXCEED SO THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE THE EXPERTISE ON THE GRANTS. THE GRANTS PAID FOR THE ADMINISTRATION IF YOU ARE SUCCESSFUL WITH THE GRANTS. THIS IS AN UP TO. IF WE DON'T APPLY FOR ANY GRANTS ÃÃTHEN THERE IS NO MONEY HERE. IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL AND ALL OF ITS COMPLEXITIES AND YOU ARE READY TO GO BE THE EXPERT ON IT, THAT IS GREAT. IF NOT, THAT IS WHAT TO BE 817 IS ABOUT. THERE IS $1 TRILLION OUT THERE. UCH OF WHICH WILL HELP UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES LIKE OURSELVES. THE PURPOSE OF 17 IS TO BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THOSE GRANTS AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT JUST LIKE OH, I WANT TO PICK THAT ONE. THE ELIGIBILITY ÃÃTHE QUALIFICATIONS TO BE ABLE TO SUBMIT THAT GRANT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR HERE. THAT IS MY CONCERN HERE. IT ISN'T SO MUCH ABOUT AN OPINION AS IT IS ABOUT ÃÃI REALIZE YOU DON'T WANT TO GO OUT ON A LIMB, BUT IF YOU HAVE THE EXPERTISE, THAT IS WONDERFUL. BUT I HAVE HEARD TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT WE'VE GOT OUR HANDS FULL WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. AND ON COVID-19, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE AN OPINION BECAUSE YOU ARE IN THOSE MEETINGS WITH ME EVERY SINGLE WEEK. HOW ARE WE GOING TO FINISH COVID-19 WITHOUT HAGGERTY? THE ANSWER IS THAT WE CANNOT BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE FULL THROTTLE OF IT AT THIS MOMENT. >> JUDGE, TO ME, IT SOUNDS LIKE AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE LOOKING FOR JUST A SHORTER DATE, WHICH WOULD INDICATE NOT THAT WE ARE BACK IN AND DOING IT, BUT IF THE COUNTY MANAGER IS GOING TO BRING FORTH A PROPOSAL TO BRING FORTH THAT ARE PUT MANAGER, WHO MIGHT HAVE THE SKILLS TO DO SOME OF THIS. MY HAVE THE SKILLS TO DO OTHERS. THEN WE CERTAINLY ÃÃWE CERTAINLY SHOULD NOT WAIT VERY LONG.OT VERY LONG AT ALL. AND EXTEND THEM ÃIS MY THOUGHT WOULD BE TO EXTEND THEM FOR A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME. I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY SAY ON 16. I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THAT ONE. TO DO IT ON FEBRUARY 23. THAT WOULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT THAT WE ARE ALLOCATING RIGHT NOW AND SEE WITH THIS ARE PUT MANAGER PROPOSAL IS. >> I'M JUST GONNA SUGGEST TO JUST WAIT ON THAT ONE. YES. >> COMPLETELY WAIT? >> OKAY. >> YES. E WILL WORKING ON 15 AND THEN LOOKING TO AMEND. >> USA DO NOT VOTE ON 16 TODAY IS WHAT I THINK I'M HEARING AND THEN SHORTEN THE DATES ON 15 THROUGH 15, 16, 17, 18, AND 19? >> THE DATES ARE FINE. FEBRUARY OF 2023. LOOKING AT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. I WOULD LIKE TO WORK AGAIN WITH TOM TO LOOK AT THE FOUR $85,000. WHAT I'M HEARING FROM ANNA IS JUST TO SEE US EXTENDED TO 2023 INSTEAD OF 2024. AND THEN YOU WILL SEE WHERE YOU WANT TO BE AND WHEN WE GET THERE. >> WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS IS TO HOLD COMPLETELY TODAY ON 16. DO NOTHING AND 16? 15 IS FINE, BUT YOU WANT TO COME ON WHERE HE'S COMING UP WITH THAT NUMBER? AND 17 AND 18 IN 19 YOU WANT TO SHORTEN TO 23, WHICH WOULD ALSO REDUCE TO THE DOLLARS. >> THAT WOULD REDUCE ÃTHIS WOULD REDUCE THOSE DOLLARS A NOT TO EXCEED THE SUM AMOUNT. AND THEN DOCTORS AND SAME CORPORATE MANAGER GOES WITH THIS COURT AND WHAT YOU PROPOSE IF YOU CAN FIND IN FEBRUARY 2023 EXTEND THAT OR NOT EXTENT. >> THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE RIGHT THERE. WE HAVE THE 10 PERCENT FROM THE JUDGES ALLOCATED FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN. AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN. 10 PERCENT IS AVAILABLE. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> FORGIVE ME, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CONSISTENT. THE FUNDS ARE ALSO FROM FEMA AS WELL. 100 PERCENT.>> CORRECT. 9010 AFTER JULY 1. >> TELL ME THAT ÃÃHOW LONG ON THE 16 NUMBER 16 USING WHAT, BRING IT BACK? WHEN? IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS? SEE WITH THE ARPA æ >> WE ARE SITTING NEXT TO JUSTICE IN THE SUN AMERICAN [01:45:03] RESCUE PLAN MANAGER. SEE AND THAT HAD A PERSON HAS THE KILLS EVERYTHING WE NEED ANY PERSON TO TAKE OVER ALL THE GOODIES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO HAGGERTY. AND THAT'S THE IDIOT THAT I USED TO HAVE. AND THEN AGAIN IN GENERATING NEXT YEAR. >> THE IDEA HERE GUYS IS THAT THERE'S 15 PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE AUTHORIZED. ALL OF WHICH HAVE TO HAVE JUSTIFICATIONS TO TREASURY. THE IF THEY ARE OVER $100,000. THERE IS NO WAY ONE ARPA MANAGER IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.UT IF YOU WANT TO DO THE WAIT AND SEE, THAT IS GREAT.OU ARE ASSUMING THAT YOU ARE GONNA FIND SOMEBODY WHO IS AN EXPERT IN OUR BUTTON ON BACK TO COME IN AND TAKE OVER. THAT IS NOT REALISTIC. BUT WE NEED IN ARPA MANAGER. OTHER COUNTIES HAVE ARE BUT MANAGERS AND THEY ALSO HAVE GREAT MANAGEMENT. GREAT PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AS WELL.UT WHAT THE ARPA MANAGER CAN DO FOR US IS GET GEARED UP SO THAT THE OTHER PIECE COMES WAY DOWN. >> THAT'S HOT. >> AND I THINK THAT'S IS A FAIR ASSESSMENT. BUT, SECOND HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. AND YOUR PROJECTS WILL BE DELAYED IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A TEAM ON THEM. BECAUSE YOU ELIGIBILITY IS WHAT GETS YOU YOUR PROJECT FUNDED. AND TOMORROW, SEVEN MONTHS OR EIGHT MONTHS FROM THE TEST HISTORY PROJECT IS MORE EXPENSIVE. YOU WANT TO MOVE IN TANDEM WITH GETTING FOR EXAMPLE EVERY PROJECT THAT WE ALLOCATED NEEDS AN RFQ OR AN RFP THAT IS SCOPED AND DEEMED ELIGIBLE TEST IS NOT ELIGIBLE. DEEMED THE QUALIFYING PROCESS. HIS IS A TON OF WORK. THAT IS ABOUT TO DESCEND UPON US. I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT. >> JUDGE, WE ARE NOT. REMEMBER. LIKE æ >> I'M WITH YOU. >> WE ARE NOT LIKE GOING BLIND OR GOING COLD ON THIS BECAUSE 15 AND 16 IS JUST AN EXTENSION OF IT. >> THAT IS CORRECT. SEE IT. 15 EXTENDS THROUGH THAT. WE WOULD STILL HAVE THEM. >> I'M WITH YOU. AND 19 IS THE ONE THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE ÃÃGIFT UNDERSTAND. WE HAVE ARTIE RECOVERED WITH HAGGERTY. AVERY PAID FOR THEMSELVES HUNDRED TIMES OVER. THEY BROUGHT IN. >> I DID NOT HEAR ANY OBJECTION JUDGE. >> THAT COVID-19 IS REALLY THE ONE THAT NEEDS TO BE THERE. >> OTHER THAN THE DATE I THINK THE OTHER THING. SO EVERYBODY'S CLEAR ÃÃ15 WITH COVERS FOR THE EXACT THINGS THAT JUDGE WAS TALKING ABOUT THROUGH FEBRUARY 23. 16 IS JUST 15 EXTENDED FURTHER AND ALL I DAY IS SAYING IS INTO LOOK AT THE ARPA MANAGER, LISTED 15 WITH HER ABILITY TO GO TALK TO TOM ON HOW WE'RE GONNA COME UP ON WHY THIS NUMBER IS SO OR WHATEVER IT IS. ND THEN WE WILL JUST COME BACK AND IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY AND POTENTIALLY EXTEND THEM AGAIN. ADMINISTER LESS IF WE HAVE IN ARPA MANAGER THAT WORKS. THAT MAKES SENSE. SO, WE'RE NOT CUTTING THEM OFF. WE'RE JUST SAYING WE'RE NOT CAN EXTEND THEM FROM FEBRUARY 23 TO 24 YET. >> I'M WITH YOU. >> I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND. >> LET ME OFFER SOME ADDITIONAL CONTEXT. >> IS GONNA COME BACK TO RESPOND. HOLD ON FOR JUST ONE SECOND. GOING BACK TO HIM TO LET HIM RESPOND. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT Y'ALL WANT TO ADD TO THIS BEFORE GO BACK TO HIM? SO I CAN BE FAIR AND LET HIM GO AND RESPOND?O AHEAD AND TELL ME. >> THANK YOU SIR. I DO WANT TO BRING UP A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL POINTS. FIRST OF ALL, I ASKED CAITLIN FROM OUR TEAM TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE E WRAP MONEY THAT WAS SPENT. BECAUSE OVER $225,000 $7 MILLION THAT WAS SPENT JUSTICE AND SHE DID VERIFY THAT THE COUNTY DID GET BACK TO HUNDRED AND $17,000 IN DEBT. YES, IT WAS SPENT AND IT WAS CHARGED AGAINST OUR MILLION DOLLARS, BUT THAT MONEY WENT RIGHT BACK TO THE COUNTY. DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE THE COUNTY IS PAID US MILLION DOLLARS AND HAS NOT GOTTEN THE MONEY BACK. THE COUNTY IS GOTTEN BACK TO YOU WRAP ADMINISTRATION MONEY. THE COUNTY IS GOTTEN BACK WILL BE GETTING BACK FEMA ADMINISTRATION MONEY. THE ARPA ADMINISTRATION WAS BUILT INTO THE GRANT. SO. >> WINTER WEATHER PROJECT IS ALSO GOING TO BE BROUGHT BACK AS WELL. >> CORRECT. >> THOSE ARE GOOD CLARIFICATIONS THAT I'M AWARE YOU KNOW THE ANSWER. >> COMMISSIONER, I WOULD NEVER BILL YOU FOR SITTING AROUND AND WAITING. . >> THIS SHOULD NOT MAKE YOU SIT AROUND AND WAIT. WE SHOULD NOT MAKE YOU SIT AROUND. >> ON WHAT TO TRY AND STREAMLINE GOING FORWARD AND I [01:50:01] UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DEAL WITH A VERY LENGTHY AGENDA. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE IF WE COME TO SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT GOING FORWARD ABOUT BETTER COMMUNICATION SAID THAT I DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE ON HOLD. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WILL ALSO ÃÃUNLESS OUR TEAM IS ACTIVELY WORKING WHEN WE HAVE MEETINGS THAT ARE ENTIRELY ONE ARPA ITEM AFTER ANOTHER. WE ARE NOT BILLING YOU. AND I DO OFTEN MONITOR YOUR MEETINGS ÃTHIS ON MAC A BILL YOU FOR THE ENTIRE TIME THAT I MONITORING A MEETING. >> I APPRECIATE THAT, I DON'T WANT TO WASTE YOUR TIME. SO MAYBE JUDGE WE COULD COME UP WITH A TIME SPECIFIC ON THE AGENDA ÃÃTHAT SAID AT 11 O'CLOCK WOULD BE THE ARPA ITEMS. SO THAT TOM AND RICH CAN GO BACK TO DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. I DON'T EXPECT THEM TO SIT AROUND AND MONITOR OUR MEETINGS IN THE NOT BILL US FOR THEM. I DON'T WANT TO EITHER. I DON'T WANT TO USE THEM Ãà THAT IS A GOOD CLARIFICATION. >> LET THEM KNOW. >> OKAY. >> MAYBE WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO DO THAT. >> OKAY, GO AHEAD TOM. >> SIR, WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE YOUR PAID CONSULTANT AND WE HAVE ELECTED OFFICIALS. YOU HAVE JUDGES. YOU HAVE YOU KNOW, HOSPITAL BOARD MEMBERS AND SOMETIMES OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO TAKE PRIORITY. WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE FLEXIBLE PIT WE ARE WORKING FOR YOU. SO WE WILL MAKE THAT WORK. ANY GRACE THAT WE COULD ASK FOR IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATION GOING FORWARD AND TRYING TO WORK SOMETHING OUT. THAT WOULD BE VERY USEFUL. >> IF I COULD MAKE ONE POINT. ON THE ISSUE OF TIMING. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I CREATED ÃÃWHEN I CREATED THE ARPA BUDGETS ÃÃIT WAS ASSUMED THAT IN ARPA MANAGER WOULD BE HIRED FOR THIS INTERFACE. DALE AND HIS TEAM ÃÃI DAY, HIS STAFF AND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT STAFF HAVE BEEN ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL. BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT EVERY COUNTY THAT HAS RECEIVED AN ALLOCATION OF YOUR SIZE HAS NOT JUST ONE, BUT SEVERAL PEOPLE DEDICATED TO ARPA. MY OTHER MAJOR ENGAGEMENT CURRENTLY ÃJUST THE COUNTY ON THE EAST COAST HAS A FIVE PERSON GRANT MANAGEMENT TEAM BUT DOES NOTHING BUT ARPA AND INTERFACES WITH US ALL DAY. AND THEIR ALLOCATION IS $10 MILLION LESS THAN YOURS. THE REALITY AND WE ALL HATE IT IS THAT THERE ARE SO MANY STRINGS ATTACHED TO THIS MONEY. THE COMPLIANCE HURDLE IS SO HIGH. LONG WITH THAT, LET ME SPEAK TO THE LENGTH AND WHY I CHOSE TO PUT FORWARD THE BUDGET WITH THE ONE YEAR EXTENSION NOW. AND IT WAS SIMPLY TO TRY AND SAVE YOU MONEY IN THE LONG RUN. THIS SOUNDS LIKE A USED CAR SALES PITCH AND THAT IS NOT MY INTENTION. LET ME EXPLAIN THE THOUGHT PROCESS. I HAVE TO GET THE WORK DONE FOR YOU TO START MOVING MONEY AT THE DOOR AND ALL THE PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE APPROVED. THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK THAT HAS TO HAPPEN. I HAVE TO BRING AT LEAST TWO NEW PEOPLE ONTO THE TEAM. HOWEVER, IF I DO NOT HAVE MANY ASSURANCES THAT ARE CONTRACT IS CONTINUED PAST FEBRUARY ÃÃI CANNOT DO THAT. SO, THAT MEANS THAT THERE IS NO WAY I CAN HIRE ANY STAFF FOR MOVE STAFF FROM OTHER PROJECTS. IF IT IS A SHORT-TERM ENGAGEMENT. AND THAT MAKES A RESOURCE ALLOCATION PROJECT FOR ME. SO, IT ALSO MEANS THAT IT IS A SPRINT AND I CANNOT SPREAD THE WORK OUT THE WAY IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE SPREAD OUT. IT MEANS THAT THEY NEED TO GET YOUR MONITORING DOWN. THE FRAMEWORK IS DONE. IN YOUR RISK ASSESSMENT FRAMEWORK 10. I NEED TO GET READY FOR FEBRUARY. BEING ABLE TO SPREAD IT OUT AS I AM ABLE TO SPREAD THE WORKOUT ÃÃI WAS ABLE TO STRATEGICALLY PLAN HOW I CAN STAFF THE PROJECT AND GET YOU TEST IS BEING QUITE HONEST RIGHT NOW. GIVE 18 FROM OUR ENTIRE PORTFOLIO. I CANNOT FIND THAT IN A SHORT-TERM ENGAGEMENT. AT LEAST NOT STAFFING MORE UP. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO NEGOTIATE OR LEVERAGE. I'M JUST BEING COMPLETELY HONEST WITH YOU AND I'VE BEEN NOTHING BUT HONEST WITH YOU FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. I DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO EVEN AGREE TO A SHORTER-TERM ENGAGEMENT BECAUSE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES THAT IT CREATES. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CANNOT CREATE SOMETHING AND WORK SOMETHING OUT IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT. IT WOULD BE SO DIFFICULT THAT I [01:55:01] WOULD EXPECT TO GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF WORK DONE AS PROPOSED IN WORK AUTHORIZATION 15. IT'S GOING TO END UP BEING MORE EXPENSIVE IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO KNOW THAT WE CAN SPREAD OUT OVER TWO TASKS OVER 17 MONTHS AS OPPOSED TO THE SIX MONTHS. >> HE SEES ME TOM. WHEN YOU HIRE TWO MORE PEOPLE THAT'S GONNA RAISE YOUR COST, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU HIRED TWO MORE PEOPLE? >> THAT'S IN INCLUDED IN THE COSTS I PROPOSE. >> [INDISCERNIBLE] >> IT'S PROPOSED RIGHT NOW. >> THESE COSTS ARE FROM A BUDGET AND HOURS POSITIONS. WHAT I WANT TO DO IS HIRE SOME MORE JUNIOR PEOPLE WHO BILL AT LOW RATES. WHO CAN DO A LOT OF THE COORDINATION WORK. QUITE HONESTLY, WANT TO FACE MYSELF OUT OF DOING A LITTLE BIT OF THE WORK BECAUSE VERY EXPENSIVE AND I DON'T WANT TO CHARGE YOU VERY EXPENSIVE RATES. I'VE VERY CONFIDENT PEOPLE LIKE SETH AND RACHEL, WHO ARE ABSOLUTELY CAPABLE OF DOING THIS WORK AND I CAN SERVE AS THEIR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT. AND THEN WE CAN BRING SOME VERY CAPABLE JUNIOR STAFF INTO THE PROJECT AND SAVE YOU MONEY IN THE LONG RUN. BUT, I CANNOT MAKE A BUNCH OF STAFFING CHANGES IF I DO NOT BUT THOSE EMPLOYEES AT THE END OF SIX MONTHS. ON MORE OPEN WITH YOU THEN I WOULD BE IN A PUBLIC MEETING. THIS IS THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY THAT I HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS SORT OF THOUGHT PROCESS. HAT IS WHY I PUT THE ADDITIONAL YEAR END. IT WAS NOT TO TRY TO SNEAK SOMETHING PAST YOU. IT WAS NOT TO TRY TO INFLATE, BUT THIS IS AN EFFORT TO GET YOU WHERE YOU NEED TO BE IN THE MOST COST-EFFECTIVE MANNER POSSIBLE. NOW, IN TERMS OF THE TWO OTHER GRANT AUTHORIZATIONS ÃÃIF THE COUNTY WANTS TO USE INTERNAL RESOURCES TO WORK ON I IJ AND FEMA GRANTS ÃÃTHAT IS CERTAINLY THE COUNTY'S PREROGATIVE. I'VE BEEN ASKED TO GIVE OPINIONS ON BOTH OF THOSE TYPES OF GRANTS BEFORE. AND WE TRIED TO DO WITH THE ARPA MONEY. AND THAT'S WHY I WROTE THOSE WORK AUTHORIZATIONS. THOSE ARE ENTIRELY OPTIONAL. I WILL SAY THAT I CANNOT BUILD A TEAM ÃÃAND I IJ MANAGEMENT TEAM OR BRING YOUR FEMA AND MANAGEMENT TEAM AND IF I DON'T LAST THROUGH SIX MONTHS. YOU HIRED US $4 MILLION Ãà COMPETITIVE GRANTS PER THERE IS A WAY THAT THE COUNTY PROCURED THAT CONTRACT. YOU'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO ANY WORK FOR YOU ON THAT CONTRACT BECAUSE WE WERE NOT POSITIVE THAT YOU WOULD GET PAID BACK FOR OUR SERVICES. WE DID NOT DO ANY WORK ON THE CONTRACT. WE ARE TAKING THE MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT AND TURNING IT INTO A $250,000 WORK AUTHORIZATION THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO BE PAID BACK. WE ARE ACTUALLY ÃÃTHAT IS MY SHOW OF GOOD FAITH. YOU GAVE US $1 MILLION CONTRACT THAT WE COMPETED FOR AND INSTEAD, I AM SAYING THAT WE WANT TO DO THIS WORK FOR YOU BECAUSE IT'S WORK THAT NUECES COUNTY NEEDS DONE. GIVE US SOME RUNWAY TO DO THE WORK. YOU ARE GOING TO GET THE POSSIBILITY OF ANY FEES THAT YOU PASS FOR MOST OF THE FEES THEY PAY US BACK IF YOU ARE SUCCESSFUL. LOTS OF $250,000 TO DO THAT FEMA WORK INSTEAD OF $1 MILLION. >> IF YOU DO BRING INTO MORE PEOPLE INTO THIS PROJECT ÃTHIS IS NOT TO BE OUR COST?> WELL, THE BUDGET THAT I PUT FORWARD STIPULATES THE CERTAIN NUMBER OF HOURS EACH TASK.AND THAT WILL INVOLVE MORE PEOPLE. WE SPREAD THAT OUT AMONG PEOPLE ÃTHIS WE ARE GOING TO BILL YOU FOR THE NUMBER OF HOURS THAT IT WILL TAKE FOR YOU TO GET THE JOB AND THAT IS REFLECTED IN THE NUMBER ON THIS WORK AUTHORIZATION. >> OKAY. THIS IS ÃÃI'M IN BIG SUPPORT OF HAVING OUR IN-HOUSE STAFF PEOPLE. IF AT ONE POINT æ IF WE DON'T SPEND AS MUCH AS WE HAVE ÃÃSO, I PROPOSE THAT WE ALSO ÃÃHOW WILL YOU THINK AND ANTICIPATE THAT IT WILL TAKE YOU TO BRING IN SOME INSIDE PEOPLE TO HELP US? MANAGE THIS? >> THE COURT APPROVED THE DECISION THE REQUEST IN THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN. [02:00:01] I MEAN, IT SHOULD BE AND OBVIOUSLY WORKING WITH HR TO HAVE THE JOB DESCRIPTION. THAT I ALREADY AT SOME POINT à ÃI SHARE WITH ALL OF YOU AT SOME POINT AND INCLUDED WHAT KIND DECISIONS YOU HAVE. IT SHOULD BE ÃÃI'M HOPEFUL DOES NOT TAKE THAT LONG. >> THE COURT NEEDS TO APPROVE THAT DECISION. >> WE NEED TO GET ON IT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER CONSULTANTS HERE IN TOWN? ALSO, HELP US MANAGE ARPA FUNDS FOR. >> WITH THE CPA FIRM. >> THEY BEEN HELPING US? >> THEY BEEN HELPING US, YES. HAGGERTY HAS BEEN HELPING US, BUT HAGGERTY IS REALLY LOOKING INTO THE DETAILS ON EVERYTHING. AND THEY ARE REALLY BEING THAT SUPPORT IS THERE IS A LOT OF WORK. >> OKAY. >> EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT ROLE HERE. >> RENEWABLE PEOPLE HERE HELPING US? >> KELLY JOHNSON IS INNOCENTLY ON SITE. ON THE WRITINGS OF JUSTIFICATIONS AND NOT ON THE COMPLIANCE AND ON THE MONITORING OF THE SUB RECIPIENTS AND ON THE RP'S OR RFQ'S. THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT. WHICH IS ALSO. POINT. THERE IS EXTRA AUDITORS FOR THE AUDITORIUM. IS REALLY WHAT THEY DO. THEY ARE SUPPLEMENTED THE AUDITOR. BUT WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY INTERNAL TO WHAT THEY ARE DOING. >> ALREADY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. >> THE ONLY THING I COULD SUGGEST IS AN OPTION. THE ONLY THING I COULD SUGGEST IS AN OPTION. APPROVING UNTIL FEBRUARY 2023 WITH AN OPTION TO GO TO THE NEXT DATE, WHICH IS FEBRUARY 24. HAVE A TRIGGER POINT WHEN THE COURT GETS TO MAKE THE DECISION, WHICH IS WHAT YOU WANT. AT LEAST IT'S BUILT INTO THE CONTRACT IS TRIGGERING THAT OPTION. AND THAT WAY YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT. GAIN, THE ONLY THING THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT ARPA HAS TOO MANY BELLS AND WHISTLES FOR A GREAT MANAGEMENT TEAM OF TWO TO WORK WITH. I MEAN, WHAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON RIGHT NOW INSIDE OF OUR INTERNAL OFFICE IS FEMA COVID-19. BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE WE ARE MAKING THE MOST STRIDES RIGHT NOW WITH ALL OF OUR REQUESTS AND REIMBURSEMENTS. THAT IS WHAT YOUR GREAT MANAGEMENT TEAM IS DOING IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER GRANTS THAT WE ARE AFTER. BUT, THE CONCEPT HERE IS THAT IT WAS A POINT THAT TOM BROUGHT UP. IS THAT THIS COURT GAVE A CONTRACT THAT HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO BE ACTED UPON. FOR YOUR FEMA GRANTS. YOU DOLLARS THAT ARE FLOWING TO TEXAS THAT ARE NEEDING TO BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.UR GRANTS DEPARTMENT DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT WITH OUR WORKLOAD. >> JUDGE, SO THAT THE PROBLEM IS, WHAT TOM JUST SAID. HE DID NOT HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION TO DO LESS THAN WHAT WAS PROPOSED. >> WITH THE SUBJECT TO TURN THEIR SUBJECT INTO ACCEPTANCE. >> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. CERTAINLY, MY INTENT WOULD BE TO BRING IT BACK BEFORE IT'S EXPIRED SURE, BUT I NEED TO KNOW. GIVE ME. I FELT SOMETHING. AND WHENEVER PAIDEIA IS GOING TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, I'M SURE IT'S COMING SENIOR YEAR, YOUR JOB DESCRIPTION. YOU WERE ABLE TO PUT IT ON WHEN YOU ARE ABLE TO PUT IT ON THE NUMB SURE THIS COURT WILL DISCUSS AND VOTE. BUT WHAT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IS WHAT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO ON THIS IS IF WE ARE GOING TO WELL ÃÃIF WE ARE GOING TO REDUCE THE DATE OF THE AUTHORITY. YES, WE CAN DO SUBJECT TO THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT WOULD REDUCE THE MONEY IN YOUR SUBJECT TO ALSO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT AMOUNT. >> JUDGE: WE CAN VOTE ON THE WORK AUTHORIZATION 15 NUMBER ONE TODAY. E CAN WORK ON VOTE AUTHORIZATION COVID-19 TODAY. >> RIGHT. >> JUDGE: WE CAN ALSO VOTE. >> PAIDEIA IS ASKING FOR ABILITY TO TALK. ON 15. NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER ÃÃSHE WANTED TO SIT DOWN AND UNDERSTAND WHY THAT NUMBER IS WHAT IT IS. >> JUDGE: SHE WANTS TO UNDERSTAND ÃÃPAIDEIA ÃÃI THOUGHT YOU SAID 16, NOT 15. YOU RECOMMEND 15 I THOUGHT YOU SAID. >> I RECOMMENDED 15 AND COMMISSIONER JENNY SAID SHE WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO TOM ABOUT 45 AND 15. >> SHE SAID [INDISCERNIBLE] >> LOOK INTO $45,000. NOT TO EXCEED. [02:05:03] >> SHE'S SINKHOLE ONTO 16. AND SHE IS SAYING APPROVE 15. SHE WANTS TO BUILD TO GO BACK AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT NUMBER IS HIGH AS IT IS. SO, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE ALL THIS UP. A MOTION BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT WE ARE APPROVING AS A CONCEPT. IT'S FINE. >> JUDGE: LET ME JUST ÃÃTAKE A STAB AT IT. BECAUSE I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. I MEAN ÃÃIF YOU WANT ANY OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ALLOCATED TO ACTUALLY GO THROUGH ÃÃME TO KEEP MOVING AND KEEP ROLLING. >> I WILL DISAGREE. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT. >> JUDGE: I WOULD'S SUPPOSED THAT WE APPROVE THE WORK THAT'S LABELED YOU A 15. AND W A 19. AND 17 AND 18, HE COULD HAVE SOME TIME WITH TOM TO UNDERSTAND THOSE. AGAIN, I'M GOING TO SUGGEST TO YOU THAT THAT IS CRITICAL FOR THIS COUNTY TO MAKE. UNLESS YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY OF THE MONEY THAT IS COMING DOWN. BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. AND ON 16, LET I DAY DISCUSS THAT WITH HIM SOME MORE OR NOT. >> JUDGE, LET ME TRY THIS. IF WE APPROVED 15, 17, 18, AND 19 THROUGH FEBRUARY 2023 SUBJECT TO THE AMOUNTS BEING ALTERED BASED ON THAT REDUCTION OF TIME AND SUBJECT TO TOM GETTING AUTHORIZATION BECAUSE HE'S SAYING IF HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW IF HE HAS IT. THAT WOULD KEEP US MOVING FORWARD. THAT WOULD ONLY TEST US WE WOULD NOT VOTE ON 16. IT WOULD BE 15, 17, 16, AND 19 WITH ALL THE YEARS BEING 23. GAIN, SUBJECT TO THE NUMBERS BEING ADJUSTED FOR GOING THROUGH 23 AND SUBJECT TO TOM BEING ABLE TO PROVE IT. >> OKAY. >> THAT WOULD KEEP US GOING AND WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND SEE.> COMMISSIONER, IN ADDITION, IF YOU WOULD LIKE. IF YOU WANT TO DO POSTPONE ACTION ON THIS ITEM UNTIL THE END OF THE MEETING, I CAN HAVE REVISED NUMBERS FOR THE SELLER GRANT WORK AUTHORIZATIONS REFLECTING MOVING THE END DATE TO 15. CAN HAVE AN INTERNAL CONVERSATION TO CONFIRM WHERE WE ARE COMFORTABLE MOVING THAT DIRECTION. I DO WANT TO ADD THOUGH THAT WE CAN JUST APPROVE THE WORK AUTHORIZATION. IT HAS TO BE AN AMENDMENT TO NOT TO EXCEED. BECAUSE THE CONTRACT IS Ãà [INDISCERNIBLE] >> THAT IS CORRECT.> I CAN [3. Discuss and consider Interlocal Cooperation Agreement between Nueces County Hospital District and Nueces County related to reimbursement of Nueces County’s Public Health related expenses.] HAVE REVISED LANGUAGE TO YOU IN AN HOUR BY THE TIME YOU'RE DONE. >> ME GOING TO PUT POSTPONE THAT RIGHT NOW. OKAY? >> FAIR ENOUGH. >> FAIR ENOUGH. >> YES. >> OKAY. SO, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON. >> CAN WE COME BACK TO BEFORE THE END OF THE MEETING?> WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE. OKAY? WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO THAT LATER IN THE MEETING. AND THIS IS THE INTERLOCAL COOPERATION TREATMENT RELATED TO HEALTH RELATED EXPENSES. IT'S ITEM 3 IN YOUR BOOK. WE HELD DUE TO THE I THINK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY? JENNY ESTES ALL GOOD HERE. >> JUDGE, JUST A QUESTION. IT WAS NOT A QUESTION. ALL GOOD, YES JENNY? >> JUDGE: WE HOLD THIS ONE. >> YES, THE ONLY THING LEFT IS THE BUSINESS DECISIONS.OR THE COUNTY. >> OKAY. >> JUDGE: WANT YOU OUTLINE THOSE. >> THE AMOUNTS. THE AMOUNT IS SEPARATE.HAT IS NOT OURS. >> THE AMOUNT. THAT IS MY QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE DOING THIS NOT TO EXCEED 2 MILLION IF WE ALREADY BUDGETED 1.7. >> I AGREE. >> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE 2 MILLION IN THERE. ALL THIS IS 1.7. >> THAT WAS NEGOTIATED AND ASKED FOR OUTSIDE OF US. >> NO, NO, NO. I'M JUST SAYING. IT HAD ÃÃJOHNNY CAME IN AND WE AUTHORIZED UP TO 2 MILLION. WE CAME BACK WITH A NUMBER THAT WAS 1.7 WHICH IS. >> 1.5 AND WHAT? >> IT WAS NOT EXACTLY 1.7. TO ME, THAT OUGHT TO BE SUBSTITUTED, THAT IS ALL HIM TRYING TO SAY. >> I AGREE WITH THAT AMENDMENT. IF THE ACTUAL NUMBER. IT'S 16+ THE COLA IF YOU WILL REMEMBER. >> SEVEN SOMETHING COULD. >> THE CPI. NOT THE COLA. >> IF I CAN GO AHEAD AND SPEAK ON THAT. >> ALL RIGHT. >> THE AGREEMENT OF THE 2 MILLION INCLUDED BEYOND THE PUBLIC HEALTH ÃÃTHE ONE .7, BUT ALSO INCLUDED THE COUNTY VECTOR CONTROL. EXPENSES, WHICH WERE PART OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND THEY ALSO PROVIDED FUNDS FOR ANY PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES AND PROGRAMS THAT MIGHT BE OPERATED BY THE [02:10:03] COUNTY ONLY. >> SO TEST US. >> JUDGE: WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT THIS IS AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION BETWEEN THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. >> IT'S OUR BEST COMMISSIONERS ABOUT HOW ALL THIS COST YOU'LL AGREE. 1.675. THAT IS THE NUMBER. >> AND WITH THE NUMBERS THAT WE USED FOR VECTOR CONTROL AND OTHER COUNTIES PUBLIC HEALTH PROGRAMS ARE FROM FY 2021 BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE THE 22 NUMBERS. SO, WE PUT SOME ADDITIONAL DOLLARS ON TOP. OF THE NUMBER THAT THE CITY GAVE YOU ALL FOR A MEMBERSHIP. TO COVER THOSE OTHER EXPENSES. BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL PUBLIC HEALTH. THE 2 MILLION IS A 13 PERCENT INCREASE ON TOP OF THE 1.765. AND WE BELIEVE THAT Y'ALL PROBABLY DO HAVE EXPENSES IN THERE. IS IT NOT TO EXCEED 2 MILLION? >> ON ME ASK YOU THIS. REALLY, THAT LANGUAGE SHOULD OF BEEN BETTER. [LAUGHTER] BECAUSE WE COULD'VE PROBABLY PUT IN THERE TO INCLUDE VECTOR CONTROL AND SOME OF THESE THINGS. >> IT DOES. IT DOES. IN THE AGREEMENT. >> AS HE HAS AND A COUPLE DIFFERENT PLACES. >> IT DOES NOT SHOW THE AMOUNTS. >> HOW MUCH IS THE VECTOR CONTROL AMOUNT? >> COMMISSIONER, I COULD TRY TO HAVE THAT DETAIL WITH ME. THE TWO NUMBERS TOGETHER CONSTITUTE MILLION.UT YOU KNOW? IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER A LESSER AMOUNT. >> NO, MY CONCERN IS THAT THE $218,000 FOR THE MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS ÃÃI DID NOT REALIZE THAT THOSE WOULD NOT BE.> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH AGREEMENT. NOT A MENTAL HEALTH AGREEMENT. >> YOU WOULD NOT MIND THAT IF WE ADDRESS THAT IN A DIFFERENT. >> WE NEED TO IN A DIFFERENT SCENARIO.> THAT'S FINE. AS LONG AS WE ARE NOT BARRED FROM BRINGING IT BACK. OKAY, FINE. THANK YOU. >> SO THEN ÃÃSO, THIS REIMBURSES THE CITY FOR THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND IT ALSO REIMBURSES US FOR VECTOR CONTROL SERVICES. >> FOR YOUR VECTOR CONTROL. COUNTIES VECTOR CONTROL SOURCES. >> IF YOU HAVE DONE YOUR MATH JOHNNY, I WILL TAKE YOUR MONEY. [LAUGHTER] >> JUDGE: YOUR THIRD WHEN JOHNNY? HE THIRD ONE WAS BESIDES VECTOR CONTROL? PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERN. >> IT'S OTHER PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES PROGRAMS THAT ARE OPERATED BY THE COUNTY. >> AND DO YOU HAVE Ãà [INDISCERNIBLE] >> JUDGE, I DO NOT REMEMBER. THIS IS A PROSPECT OF AMOUNT. FOR NEXT YEAR. SO, YOU HAVE THE LATITUDE WITHIN THE 2 MILLION TO HAVE THE COUNTY OPERATE A PUBLIC HEALTH PROGRAMS. NOT ONE TO THE HEALTH DISTRICT, THE COUNTY ONLY. >> AND DID NOT WANT THIS TO BE ONE OF THOSE ONES WHERE WE HAVE THAT COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHERE YOU CAME IN AND SAID THE COUNTY ASKED FOR THIS, THIS, THIS, AND THE SPEED THIS IS WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR A TAX INCREASE. THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY OF THOSE LISTS ANYMORE PORT IN OTHER WORDS, WE KIND OF HAVE NOT BEEN ASKING NOT BEEN DOING. AND WE HAVE BEEN MAINTAINING. RIGHT? THE MAINTENANCE IS. THIS WOULD NOT BE COUNT AGAINST US. THE COUNT AGAINST US WHEN YOU COME IN AND SAY WE HAD TO RAISE TAXES BECAUSE THIS WAS AND ASKED THAT THE COUNTY HAD. I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE ON THAT LIST. COMMISSIONER. IF THE 2 MILLION IS A ONE YEAR NUMBER. CERTAINLY BECOMING SUBSEQUENT YEARS AND THE NUMBERS GOING UP THAT I AM GOING TO BRING IT UP TO YOUR ATTENTION. >> THAT'S FINE. SOME IS NOT DOING IT THIS YEAR. WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT NEXT YEAR. >> ONE BUDGET AT A TIME. >> JUDGE: JUST TO BE CLEAR. THE ONLY REQUEST ÃÃTHAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED ON THIS DAIS IS THAT MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS à JUST THE TWO OF THEM AT A COST OF 218,000 IT CUMULATIVELY, WITH BENEFITS, THAT HAD BEEN LITERALLY SOME HELP MOVE FROM ONE LEDGER TO ANOTHER. THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. AND YOU ARE SAYING THAT THAT IS ANOTHER CONTRACT NOT TO BE PLANTED THIS 2 MILLION. >> CORRECT. >> I'M WITH YOU. OKAY. >> JUDGE: IN THE CASE. >> MOTION TO PASS. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION AT ALL? AND I'M MINDFUL THAT TERESA WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING UNDER DISCUSSION. ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE COMMISSIONER MODEST. A GOOD ONLINE? SOMETIMES THE FACE MOVES UP AND THEN SOMETIMES I SEE IT RIGHT HERE. SO, YOU GO. THANK YOU CONNIE. PROBABLY A LITTLE BETTER. TERESA? WE JUST CAN ASK YOU TO UNMUTE. >> OKAY, WAIT A MINUTE. >> GO AHEAD, WE'VE GOT ENOUGH. >> I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT THE 2 MILLION DOES NOT INCLUDE THE MENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT PROGRAM.> JUDGE AND COMMISSION. THOSE EXPENSES ARE INCLUDED IN OUR OTHER CAN'T EXPENDITURE CATEGORIES. BUT THEY'RE NOT COVERED UNDER THIS AGREEMENT. >> GOT IT. >> WE ASKED THE SAME THING ON [02:15:03] MENTAL HEALTH AND THAT WE ARE CONFIRMING THAT IT IS FOR DIABETES AND MENTAL HEALTH. THEY ARE NOT AN OT TEST IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS. SO, WE SHOULD BE GOOD. >> THANKS. >> THANK YOU. >> BETTER CONTROLS ABOUT $230,000. SO THAT'S CAN ABOUT TAKE IT ALL. >> THAT'S IT JOHNNY. THERE IS NO MONEY IN THE 2 MILLION FOR ANY COUNTY HEALTH SERVICES. JUST FYI. >> IN JUDGE, THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE IN 2021. KISS VECTOR CONTROL COSTS JUST AS WE DID HAVE FROM THEM, THERE WERE NO COUNTY PROGRAMS AND STUFF AT THE END. SO, I MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT THE HELL JUST SAID.> RIGHT. >> WERE PUBLISHED HOLLOW CLAUSES. WE SAY THAT THEY ARE THERE FOR COUNTY HEALTH SERVICES. THERE IS NO MONEY FOR THEM. >> IF YOU REDUCE VECTOR CONTROL COSTS AND YOUR PUBLIC HEALTH DISTRICT COSTS, THERE COULD BE OTHER AMOUNTS IN THERE. >> OKAY. >> LET'S NOT GO INTO THAT DEBATE. >> THANK YOU JENNIFER OPENING THAT CAN OF WORMS. SO LOVELY. FRESH WORMS FOR ME. >> I CAN ALREADY ÃÃI CAN ALREADY BEGIN TO AGREE WITH YOU. MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. WAIT A SECOND. TERESA, ONE MORE TIME. GO AHEAD. >> I'M SORRY. I ONE MORE QUESTION. THIS AGREEMENT ÃÃIF NOTED THAT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT IS LOOKING TO PAY FOR ANY CAPITOL ITEMS SINCE WE ARE LOWER THAN THE 2 MILLION. WE NORMALLY GET THE MOSQUITO SPRAYERS. O, CAN IT BE CONSIDERED TO PURCHASE SOME CAPITOL ITEMS THERE VERSUS TAKING THAT OUT? >> THE AGREEMENT IS SPECIFICALLY SAYING THAT IT EXCLUDES CAPITOL OUTLAYS. >> JUDGE: WE DO NOT HAVE ANY CURRENT REQUESTS I DON'T THINK. >> AND WE BOUGHT MOSQUITO SPRAYERS. >> JUDGE: WE HAVE DONE THE BUFFALO TURBINE. >> YES. >> YEARS AGO. >> THEY USUALLY BUY THEM EVERY YEAR. I'M SURE THEY WILL WANT TO PURCHASE SOME NEXT YEAR. >> JUDGE: LUCKILY NEXT YEAR, WE WILL GET TO COME BACK. >> WE WILL HAVE TO ASK US. >> JUDGE: YES.KAY, THANK YOU. LOOK, THE IDEA HERE IS TO à ÃIT'S ALL ABOUT THE OPENNESS OF IT, RIGHT? WHAT'S IN, WHAT'S OUT? AND SO, I THINK IT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION. >> COMMISSIONER, JUST TO CLOSE BEFORE Y'ALL VOTE ÃÃTHE HOSPITAL DISTRICT HAS A LONG HISTORY OF WORKING WITH THE COUNTY. >> JUDGE: I AGREE. >> AND RECOVERING PUBLIC HEALTH EXPENSES AND STUFF AND THIS IS JUST A CONTINUATION OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE. NOT A NEW THING. JUST A CONTINUATION OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE. >> I AGREE. THAT IS FAIR. THAT IS A FAIR STATEMENT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ÃÃIF THERE [4. Discuss and consider Addendum to Amended Cooperative Agreement for City-Operated Corpus Christi-Nueces County Public Health District for Fiscal Year 2022-23 to include use of 1115 Waiver Funds.] IS NO OTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS FROM MR. HEAD, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> I. >> JUDGE: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ONE WAS KIND OF IN THE SAME BAG AS THAT WE HAD TO GET THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO LOOK OVER THE DOCUMENT. SO. THE DOCUMENT IS IN YOUR AGENDA AS ITEM NUMBER FOUR. IT'S AN ADDENDUM TO THE ADMITTED COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT THE CITY OPERATED CORPUS CHRISTI NUECES PUBLIC COUNTY HEALTH DISTRICT FISCAL YEAR 2022. 2023 TO INCLUDE USE OF 1115 WAIVER FUNDS. AND IT'S VERY SIMPLE AGREEMENT. IT'S JUST LOCATED IN YOUR BOOK. AND THE AMOUNT IS 1 MILLION 765,002 96, IS THAT CORRECT DALE? >> IT'S 1567620 ON 1115 AND 675296 AND THE OTHER. >> CORRECT.> JUDGE: JUST SO YOU KNOW, IT'S BROKEN DOWN. WE PAY IN MONTHLY INSTALLMENTS. AND JOHNNY, DID YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THIS? >> COMMISSIONERS I DID. THESE AMOUNTS AND I BELIEVE THAT THE 1.567 AMOUNT IS THE AMOUNT THAT YOU ALL APPROVED LAST MEETING. >> JUDGE: I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. >> THAT'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT. THE 1.756 ÃÃWE ASK THAT THE COUNTY HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT BEFORE JULY OF EVERY YEAR. WITH THIS AMOUNT. THAT IS AN AMOUNT THAT WE REIMBURSE YOU ALL FOR. ND I EXPRESSED SOME CONCERN ON THE BEHALF OF THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT ABOUT THE OPEN ENDED THIS UP THE COST OF THIS AGREEMENT. AND WE WOULD PREFER THAT THERE BE SOME STRUCTURE SET IN PLACE TO ADDRESS HOW FUTURE COSTS COMMON TO ALL. SO, IN THIS YEAR'S ALREADY AN EXAMPLE. IS THAT THE 1.765296 THAT THEY HAVE ASKED FOR IN MEMBERSHIP. ON TOP OF THAT ÃÃTHEY ASKED FOR 1.5676 20. WHICH Y'ALL GRACIOUSLY COVERED OUT OF YOUR OWN FUNDS. SO ALREADY IN THE FIRST YEAR, YOU HAVE COST GROWTH AND HEALTH DISTRICT. THAT IS PART OF THE REASON WHY WE ASK THAT YOU ALL CONSIDER THE 2 MILLION BECAUSE THERE IS NOT A CLEAR STRUCTURE OR FOOTPRINT FOR PUBLIC HEALTH DISTRICT COSTS GOING FORWARD. IT IS AN OPEN ENDED ONE. AND SO, CERTAINLY, THE AMENDMENT. Y'ALL HAVE IT COVERED. YOU ALREADY APPROVED 1.5 LAST WEEKEND THE DISTRICT ÃÃY'ALL [02:20:03] JUST APPROVED A $2 MILLION DISTRICT WHO COVERED THE 1.765. SO, WE JUST WANT TO SIGNAL TO YOU THAT WE HAVE CONCERNS. ABOUT THE COST OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH DISTRICT GOING FORWARD. NOT TO SAY THAT THERE WILL NOT BE ANY COSTS OR THAT THE PUBLIC HEALTH DISTRICT SHOULD NOT BE DOING THINGS, BUT IF YOU ALL à ÃIF THE COUNTY IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO TURN TO THE THE COST OF YOUR PUBLIC HEALTH DISTRICT EXPENSES, WE NEED TO BE IN THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT. >> SO NOTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. >> JUDGE: 'SOUT ÃÃFOR EXAMPLE IT WAS GIVEN TO ME FOR THIS TRIP ÃÃYOU GUYS ARE NOT PAYING THE IGT ANYMORE, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THERE IS ONE HIGH GP, JUDGE, THAT RELATES TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH DISTRICT LAST REPORTING PERIOD. THE FINAL REPORTING PERIOD. >> JUDGE: THAT IS THE OCTOBER FINAL REPORTING PERIOD? >> CORRECT. THAT IS FOR THE PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE BEEN OPERATING Ãà THEY BEEN AN EXCELLENT PROGRAM. IT'S HAD GOOD RESULTS AND HAS EDITED ITS SOME METRICS EVERY YEAR. CLOSED CAPTIONS WILL RETURN. >> JUDGE: POSSIBLE DISTRICT IS NOT GONNA PAY IT. >> IN THE PAST, WE HAVE SUPPORTED THE IDEA.HERE IS A CHANGE BACK IN MARCH. AND THE READING OF THE AGREEMENT IS. >> CAN YOU PULL YOUR MICROPHONE UP? >> CAN YOU PULL YOUR MICROPHONE UP JOHNNY? >> IS NOT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT'S OBLIGATION BECAUSE IT THEY ARE NOT PART OF THIS AGREEMENT. THE COUNTY IS PRETTY KATHY WANTS TO MAKE THE IGT. THAT IS FINE. >> JUDGE: I'VE ENJOYED THIS SO MUCH RIGHT NOW. HALLELUJAH. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THAT IS REALLY SCARY. >> THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT WITH THE IGT HAS TO COME FROM A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY. IT CAN BE THE CITY, THE COUNTY. >> JUDGE: WE ARE NOT GONNA PAY MILLION DOLLARS. THAT IS NOT THE DEAL. AND THAT'S NOT IN THE AGREEMENT. OUR AGREEMENT DOES NOT SPEAK TO THE MILLION DOLLARS. >> JOHNNY, RIGHT NOW, WHAT IS THE DEAL? [02:25:02] >> JOHNNY CAME AND OFFERED INFORMATION. >> JOHNNY HAS GIVEN US A REPORT ON WHAT? >> JOHNNY IS GIVING US ÃÃHE SAID THAT HE IS GIVING YOU THE TRUTH. >> COMMISSIONER, THE IGT IS NOT A PART OF THIS ADDENDUM. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ON THE NEXT AGENDA IDEA. THE DISCUSSION OF THE IGT IN HIS GONNA PAY IT. I BET YOU WERE REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THAT MILLION DOLLARS. I BET THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED TO COME. >> I'M SURE THERE'S LOTS OF SIDES OF THE STORY.> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I'M HAPPY TO PUT ON THE AGENDA POSTED PROPERLY, BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING FOR. >> JOHNNY OFFERED IT UP. [LAUGHTER] >> YOU SHOULD'VE CALLED HIM OUT OF ORDER. THAT'S NOT PERMANENT TO WHAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT. >> JUDGE: >> JUDGE, MY COMMENTS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. JUST REFRAIN THIS. I WAS JUST OFFERING A COMMENT ON THE 1.7652 96 NUMBER. AND OUR CONCERN AT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO RELY ON US TO IMMERSE YOU THAT AMOUNT. AND THEN WE JUST NEED TO BE AREN'T ON THAT NUMBER EVERY YEAR GOING FORWARD.> JUDGE: I AM WITH YOU. >> TALK ABOUT AND DISCUSS IT. >> JOHNNY, RELATIVE TO WHAT HE SAID A WHILE AGO TO THIS AGENDA ITEM. THIS IS ALWAYS BEEN OPEN-ENDED. HIS IS NOTHING NEW. THIS IS THE CITY COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS ALWAYS BEEN UPPER END ENDED. WE BOTH HAVE BECOME TO YOU GET APPROVED. I DON'T THINK YOU MEANT TO IMPLY THAT THIS IS ÃTHIS IS IT'S ALWAYS BEEN OPEN-ENDED. >> PRIOR TO MARCH, OUR ÃÃTHE COSTS BEING INCURRED ARE ONES THAT YOU ALL MOSTLY CONTROL. OKAY? IT'S REALLY, WAS ONE OF THE BUDGET OF THE COUNTY DISTANCE WHATEVER THE BUDGIE OF THE DISTANCE WE STILL CONTROL BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE BUDGET. WE STILL CONTROL ESTES WE CAN STILL SAY NO. WE COULD HAVE SAID NO TO THE COAL AND IS REALLY VERY LITTLE THAT COULD HAPPEN. BUT BECAUSE WE ALL HAD COME FORWARD ALREADY BEFORE WE EVEN GOT AND SAID YOU KNOW WHAT? WE VERY TAKE CARE OF THE COLA TESTS WE DID NOT DISCUSS WI-FI OVER SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE ALREADY AGREED TO? SO, YOU GOT IT BACK I THINK BEFORE WE DID BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE THE COLA DISCUSSION FOR YORTY APPROVED UP TO 2 MILLION. GOOD ALREADY APPROVED IT BEFORE IT EVEN CAME TO US. SO PULL UP.O THE DISCUSSION YOU TALKED ABOUT WAS HAD WITH YOU. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE NOTED. THIS IS ALWAYS BEEN AN OPEN ENDED TYPE SITUATION BECAUSE OF THE COST WENT UP THIS IS THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT HAS BEEN A GREAT PHENOMENAL PARTNER.UT SO, THERE'S BEEN NO CHANGE IN THIS IN THE SENSE THAT YOU CAN STILL NOT AGREE TO THE BUDGET OF WHICH HAS BEEN PROPOSED TO US. AND IF YOU WERE TO SAY HEY WAIT A MINUTE, WE GOT CONCERNS. WHICH YOU DID NOT THIS TIME. AS YOU CAME IN AND SAID WE ARE ALL ABOUT. SO, WE MOVE FORWARD. SO, THE CONVERSATION WAS HAD WITH YOU THIS YEAR. HIS UNIT BEFORE WE DID. THE CONVERSATION WILL ALWAYS CONTINUE TO BE HAD WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE OUR PARTNER WITH THIS AND WE UNDERSTAND THIS IS ALWAYS BEEN OPEN-ENDED AND IT'S CAN HAVE TO BE CONTINUE TO BE OPEN ENDED BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW, COSTS GO UP FOR THINGS. I WOULD NEVER HAVE APPROVED THIS WITHOUT COMING IN TALKING TO YOU. YOU CAN TALK TO US ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU GOT BEFORE WE DID. SO YOU KNEW ABOUT THE COLA BEFORE I KNEW ABOUT THE COLD. SO I THINK THE CONVERSATION WAS HAD. I THINK IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE OPEN-ENDED. FIGURE GONNA CONTINUE TO HAVE A SAY. I'M HAPPY TO PUT THE IGT ISSUE ON A DIFFERENT TIME WILL BE POSTED PROPERLY INHABIT. I'M HAPPY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION FOR TODAY'S NOT TODAY BECAUSE NOT IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. I'M HAPPY TO DO IT IN MORE THAN ONE TIME THE STORY TOO.'M SURE DANTE IS DYING TO TALK ABOUT BUT I'M GONNA TELL HIM WHAT I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT TODAY JUST WE SHOULD NOT TALK ABOUT IT WITH YOU. BUT WE WILL PUT BACK ON AND LET DANTE COME AND GET HIS SIDE OF THE STORY. BECAUSE AS IT SOMETIMES GETS PERPETUATED AROUND HERE Ãà THERE MIGHT NOT BE A MILLION-DOLLAR PROBLEM. IT MIGHT BE, BUT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TODAY AND WE SHOULD NOT HAVE EVEN HAVE BROUGHT IT UP AND IT'S REALLY INAPPROPRIATE. THAT WE BROUGHT IT UP AND DID NOT. >> COMMISSIONER JOHN. >> NOW, LET ME FINISH FOR. >> :JOHNNY. COMMISSIONER. WAS PUT BACK ON FOR ANOTHER TIME IN THE EVERYBODY COME PRESENT THE WHOLE STORY. I DID NOT KNOW IF THERE'S ANY CONCERN OF HER. SO I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THE HANGING OUT THERE. SO JUDGE ASKED ME. SO LET'S PUT ON THE AGENDA. READ ON. >> THE CONCERN JUST SAY NO IGT'S ARE RELATED. TO THE 1115 WAIVER. THAT IS THE ÃÃTHERE IS A GERMANE PIECE TO IT. SO, WHEN WE GIVE THE 15 67 620 ÃÃTHE REASON I GOT BROUGHT UP THIS BECAUSE JOHNNY IS CONCERNED ABOUT WHO IS GOING TO MAKE THE IGT. IN THE FUTURE. THAT IS WHY HE BROUGHT IT UP. IS THE 1115 WAIVER. >> COMMISSIONER, YOU ARE CORRECT. AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPENNESS OF EVERYONE KNOWING THIS AND WE WERE ABLE TO PREEMPTIVELY ADDRESS THE 1.7. THE 1.5676 20 IS A NUMBER THAT WE WERE NOT INVOLVED IN. AND I KNOW WE ARE NOT BEING ASKED TO PAY. BUT THEY COME BACK AND SUCCEEDING YEARS WITH ADDITIONAL THINGS LIKE THIS AND Y'ALL DON'T. >> STILL HAVE SOME SERIOUS JUSTICE. >> AND Y'ALL DON'T HAVE FUNDS IN THAT ACCOUNT ANYMORE TO [02:30:04] COVER OR YOU ELECT NOT TO USE YOUR FUNDS AND STUFF AND THEN YOU ASKED THE DISTRICT TO HELP WITH THAT JUSTICE DOES THE PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT I CAN. JUST AS JENNY JUSTICE BECAUSE COVERAGE. ÃÃLET ME ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION. ÃÃCLOSED CAPTIONING'S WILL RETURN. >> SO, DOCTOR, DOCTOR ROSALES AND JUDGE. ÃÃTHERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE EXPLICITLY NOT CORRECT. AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. IT'S GONNA MAKE YOU COME BACK AND DISCUSS AND A MORE PROPER FORM. THE IGT ÃÃRIGHT? AND THE FUNDING FOR THE 15 WAIVER. YOU REMEMBER, THIS IS A REIMBURSEMENT. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS FUTURE FUNDS. SO, I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT AT THAT AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ME BE A DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND DISCUSS THAT. BECAUSE AGAIN, THE IGT IS NOT ANYTHING RELATED TO THE ITEM THAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY. BUT I'M HERE TO GET APPROVAL. >> IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SUBJECT. >> OKAY, WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU COME BACK, BUT IF YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION ÃÃTRANSFER 1.5 MILLION COME DID YOU NOT RECEIVE $1 MILLION ÃÃTHAT WHICH YOU REPORTED IN APRIL. THERE WAS A REPORT THAT WAS DUE IN APRIL. DIFFLEY COMES IN APRIL. >> THE REPORT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED BECAUSE IN IGT. >> IT'S MISSING THE IGT. æ >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING TO GET INFORMATION ON. >> IN OCTOBER ÃÃTHE PLAN TO REPORT IT? AGAIN, BECAUSE WE TRANSFER AND EXPECT MONEY ÃÃIF YOU REPORT IN OCTOBER, ONE WILL BE GET THE MONEY MORE OR LESS? >> THE REQUIREMENT TO RECEIVE THE FUNDING NEEDS THE IGT. YOU CANNOT RECEIVE THEM FUNDING WITHOUT THE IGT. IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THERE AND MOVE FORWARD ON THIS UNLESS IT'S APPROVED BY THE COUNTY. SO, WE'RE GOING TO TRANSFER THESE DOLLARS IN AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH THE OCTOBER 1 SOMETIME BETWEEN NOW AND OCTOBER. >> I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT WAS ALREADY BEEN RESOLVED AND WE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH JOHNNY IN THE PAST.AGAIN, VERY ADAMANT THAT HE WAS NOT GOING TO THE IGT UNLESS THE COUNTY APPROVED IT. THE COUNTY AND THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THE IGT ÃÃTHIS IS AN IGT THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. FOR THE PAST 90 YEARS. IN THIS CASE ÃÃIT HAS NOT. >> HYPOTHETICALLY, IF SOMEBODY WERE TO DROP DOWN WITH $1 MILLION FOR THE IGT ÃÃWOULD YOU REPORTED IN OCTOBER? AND YOU WOULD SAY HERE'S THE IGT. >> OF LILY. >> WHEN WOULD YOU GET THE MONEY? >> WHENEVER THEY FINALLY CUT THE CHECK. >> THEIR ACCOUNTS ARE TIED TO THE 1115 WAIVER WHICH IS STILL FOR THE COUNTY. >> RIGHT. IS IT LIKE A 60 DAY OR 90 DAY? E TRANSFERRING MONEY AND SO WE CAN WITH THIS BE THE BETTER QUESTION? >> I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION SINCE I'M NOT THE ONE RUNNING WITH A REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I UNDERSTAND. IT'S TYPICALLY DONE IN THE FISCAL YEAR? >> AGAIN, WE CANNOT GET OUT OF HAND AGAIN. COMES OVER HERE AND GO OUT THERE AND LEFT FIELD. WHILE ALL KINDS OF QUESTIONS AND NINE PERTAINED WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. >> DANTE, YOU WILL GET THE INFORMATION. I NEED TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT IF IT'S A FISCAL YEAR.E NEED TO KNOW IF WE NEED TO GIVE YOU MONEY OR IF THERE'S MONEY COMING IN IN THE PAST YEAR. >> FUNDS GOING INTO THE RESERVE [02:35:04] FUND AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO. HEY CAN USE THE RESERVE FUND. >> DOCTOR GONZALEZ, THANK YOU. >> JUDGE: WELL, SINCE YOU'RE NOT RUNNING THE MEETING, I WILL CALL FOR THE QUESTION. SINCE I WILL CALL FOR THE QUESTION AND REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE ARE TRANSFERRING $1.5 MILLION OF OUR COUNTY OF 1115 WAIVER FUNDS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM TO DISCUSS WHY WE DID NOT GET ALL THE MONEY DRAWN DOWN THAT WE SHOULD HAVE FOR THIS YEAR. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> I. >> I. >> JUDGE: OKAY. ET'S GO ON TO THE NEXT ONE. SEE YOU NEXT WEEK OR NEXT TWO WEEKS DANTE. THE NEXT ONE IS DISCUSS AND [5. Discuss and consider funding sources for the County's Enterprise Resource Planning System (ERP) and replacement of time clocks.] CONSIDER FUNDING SOURCES FOR THE COUNTY'S ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING. ERP AND REPLACEMENT OF TIME CLOCKS. I THINK WE'VE GOT MICHAEL HERE FOR THAT. >> THIS IS NOT MY ITEM. >> JUDGE: I'M SORRY MICHAEL. >> UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY HAVE A BID IN PROCESS RIGHT NOW FOR THE ERP. SOFTWARE SYSTEM. BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS SOME FUNDING DECISIONS THAT THE COURT WOULD NEED TO MAKE AND PERHAPS I BELIEVE THEY WERE GONNA TALK" WAS CAN SPEAK WITH THE HOST AT SOME POINT ABOUT SOME POSSIBLE OPTIONS ON THAT. THAT FUNDING. I WANTED TO QUESTION THE COURT NOT TO DISCUSS SPECIFIC FUNDS AS IT RELATES TO DALE'S SOFTWARE.ECAUSE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE THAT PROCESS. >> UNDERSTAND. REX IN TERMS OF. >> IS THIS A TABLE AT HIM? I DAY PUT IT ON ACCORDING TO THE BUDGET. >> THAT IS CORRECT. THIS IS JUST TO DISCUSS HOW WE ARE GOING TO BE FUNDING THIS ERP SYSTEM FOR THE COUNTY. AND ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS SO THAT WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY ÃÃIT WAS TO SEEK JUSTICE WE CAN DO IT WITH MONEY. SO, I DON'T KNOW. USING THIS AGENDA DECOR. TALK TO ME WITHOUT KNOWING TO HAVE SOME NUMBERS AND SOME KIND OF PROPOSAL FOR MONEY.OME KNEW THAT. >> WE NEED TODAY? I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO. YOU NEED AN AUTHORIZATION? >> JUST TO TALK TO THEM AND WORK ON SOME NUMBERS AND BRING IT TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TWO. >> WE DON'T NEED AN AUTHORIZATION TO TALK TO NOAH. >> I THINK SHE IS SAYING IN ORDER TO FUND THIS WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A C OUT. IN ORDER FOR HER TO GO AND DO THAT, SHE WANTS SOME DIRECTION FROM THE COURT. MAYBE IT'S NOT A MOTION. >> IF YOU ARE SAYING YOU WANT TO GO ASK FOR SOME CERTIFICATE OBLIGATION DECISION NOT ISSUING IT. INTERESTED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I DON'T HOW MUCH. I'M INTERESTED IN ISSUING ANYMORE DEBT RIGHT NOW WITHOUT HAVING THE BIG PICK. >> I THINK THE FUNDING SOURCE TEST IS THE ITEM IS DISCUSSED AND CONSIDERED FUNDING SOURCES AND WHY WE CANNOT TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL RP ÃÃWE CAN BRING IT BACK. BUT WE HAVE AN RFP IN THE FIELD. THAT THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE FUNDING SOURCE TO PAY FOR THE SOFTWARE THAT IS NEEDED? THERE IS NO FUNDING SOURCE RIGHT NOW. AND I THINK THAT IS THE CONCEPT. >> OKAY. I GOT IT. >> OKAY.ITH THE BID CURRENTLY I'M SORRY, WITH RP CURRENTLY BEING REVIEWED RIGHT NOW. AT SOME POINT, WE'RE GONNA COMMIT TO THE COURT AND ASKED TO AWARD AND EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH THEM.ND BY THAT TIME THAT'S JUST I WOULD DEFINITELY NEED TO KNOW HOW WE ARE GOING TO PAY FOR. >> I CANNOT BELIEVE WE DON'T HAVE SOME EXTRA CEOS HANG AROUND. I'M INTERESTED IN ISSUING ANYMORE DEBT RIGHT NOW PICK ME PERSONALLY. IF EVERYBODY ELSE'S, THAT'S FINE. BUT. >> IF THERE'S NO OTHER CEOS THAT AROUND, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO WITH THE SOFTWARE THAT IF IT CRASHES RUINS THE WHOLE COUNTY ABILITY TO FUNCTION FISCALLY? I'M JUST CURIOUS. >> I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT UNALLOCATED CEOS FIRST. >> JUDGE: I WAS ASKING I DAY AND SHE SAID WE DID NOT. >> WE HAVE ANY MONEY AVAILABLE? >> HAS BEEN APPROPRIATED TO ALLOCATIONS FOUR. DOES IT MEAN THE COURT CAN CHANGE HIS MIND WHEN THE ALLOCATIONS ARE FOR. WE DON'T HAVE AN ALLOCATED FUND AT THE MOMENT. >> WE HAVE MANY TESTERS THINK OKAY.NCE AGAIN THIS IS NO FENCE BUT THERE'S ABSOLUTELY ZERO BACKUP IN MY AGENDA. SO I'VE NOTHING TO KNOW. THIS IS IN YOU. >> JUST HAD TO SEE THE COURT WILL ALLOW ME TO TALK TO THEM. THIS IS HAPPENED. >> YOU COULD TALK TO HIM ALL DAY. >> TALK TO KNOW ALL YOU WANT. BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR SEO. >> HOW MUCH IT COULD BE FOR THIS YEAR'S MONEY. >> I GET NOTHING. >> I WILL TELL YOU THAT I THINK WE CAN HAVE SOME GENERATORS SAY THIS. BUT ALL OF ITS ENOUGH. >> ONLY TO KNOW WHAT WE TALK ABOUT. HOW MUCH ARE SOME OF THESE OTHER GENERATOR SAVINGS AND OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE MOVE FORWARD ON THAT WE CAN PULL MONEY FROM DOING THE PAST. I JUST A BLANK SHEET.O TO A CO. [02:40:02] I'M NOT PREPARED TO DO ANYTHING, BECAUSE I GET NOTHING IN MY BOOK ON THAT. >> HOW ABOUT IF I DAY BRINGS BACK SOME MORE INFORMATION æ WITH THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE TESTED I DO NOT HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT. >> SO. >> YES, THE RP IS THAT. >> WE CAN WAIT. I THINK YOU WERE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF IT BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS CONTRACT AND THOSE PROPOSALS ARE ONLY VALID FOR SO LONG. AND SO, THE IDEA WAS THAT WE HATE TO DO IN RP WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR FUNDING SOURCES. >> I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT. >> WHEN WE BRING IT BACK? >> WE'VE GOT RP ON THIS WITHOUT A FUNDING SOURCE? >> YES. >> Y'ALL APPROVED IT. >> WITHOUT A FUNDING SOURCE? >> SHAME ON US. I THINK FOR RESPONSE BULLY FOR BEING RIDICULOUS ENOUGH TO DO THAT. >> I THINK THE ISSUE BRENT WAS THAT NOBODY THAT'S JUST THE RANGE WAS SO LARGE. WITH NO IDEA IF WE WERE LOOKING AT X OR Y. AND THE CONCEPT HERE IS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS SOFTWARE. IT IS A MUST. AND I THINK THE BACKUP THAT WE CAN BRING ON THE 29TH I DAY IS SHOW A LIST OF ALL THE PROJECTS FROM THE CEOS THAT HAVE BEEN COMMITTED AND SHOW WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S ANY SAVINGS. YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT JUST TWO WEEKS AGO WE FINALLY CONSUMMATED THE GENERATORS. AKING A RECONCILIATION FOR THE GENERATORS TO SEE WHAT SALARIES ÃTHIS WAS HOWEVER SAVINGS PRINT [LAUGHTER] SAVINGS ARE AVAILABLE. AND THEN YOU CAN COMPARE THAT TO THE RFP. AND THEN THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COURT TO MOVE SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS. >> RIGHT. ASK AGAIN, IN THE REAL WORLD à ÃWE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE HOW TO GET THE FUNDING FOR THIS SOFTWARE. AND I THINK THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE AGENDA ITEM. >> I GET. SO, WE NEED TO PUT ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM ON. I DAY THAT SAYS THAT WE NEVER SHOULD GO OUT FOR RP'S ARE RFPS IF WE DON'T HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE. >> THE COURT DATED BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT. SO THEY SAID WE NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST. >> ON WAS PEOPLE'S TIME. >> HAD TO SAY THAT, BUT THAT'S I DID IP MCGEE. [LAUGHTER] THERE ARE LOTS OF. >> NOTED. A FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT WE NEVER WENT BEFORE WE HAD A FUNDING SOURCE BUT. >> WITH THE BACKSTOP I DID MCGEE MULTIPLE TIMES PICK. >> WE DID NOT HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE. WE WENT TO THE FINAL CONSTRUCTION ÃÃTHIS COURT CAME UP WITH A FUNDING SOURCE AND THEN WE WENT AND DID IT. >> I THINK THE IDEA IS THAT NOT UNDERESTIMATED. HERE, THE SOFTWARE REALLY à THIS WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.> I BELIEVE IF I REMIND THE COURT THAT WHEN WE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS BACK AND MARCH WHEN DALE FIRST BROUGHT THIS TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THE SOFTWARE NEEDED TO BE REPLACED ÃÃTHAT NO, WE DID IN FACT COME HERE I THINK HIS FOCUS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT THERE WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET FUNDING. THE COUNTY HAD A GOOD MEETING AT THAT POINT. HE DID NOT FORESEE IS A BIG ISSUE FOR US TO OBTAIN THE FUNDING FOR WHAT WE ESTIMATED TO BE THE COST AT THAT TIME. >> BRING UP THE FUNDS AND THEN WE WERE BEING TOLD WE CANNOT USE OUR FUNDS. >> WE WENT TO THAT LATER. WENT TO THAT LATER.> WHAT WE DO FOR RP? THE CONVERSATION WE KNOW WAS A YEAR AGO. >> IT WAS IN THE SPRING. >> IT IS CONVERSATION WITH Y'ALL BEFORE WHEN Y'ALL DID THE PREVIOUS CO. AS THE LAST ONE BEFORE THAT THAT I REMEMBER. BUT I KNOW HE SPECIFICALLY CAME BECAUSE WHAT HE ADVISED THE COURT WAS THE DOWNSIDE TO NOT REPLACING THE SOFTWARE IS WORSE THAN FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET THE FUNDS TO PAY FOR. >> MICHAEL, HE DID NOT,. SAY THAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ANY NEW BOND BEING ISSUED. HE DID NOT TALK ABOUT SAINT ESTES SHE MAY SAID WE CAN FIND FUNDING, BUT HE DID NOT SAY WERE GONNA DO IN THE WAY OF CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION BONDS. CORRECT? >> I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND WATCH IT TAKES. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE SAID. >> WE DID NOT TALK ABOUT ISSUING A CERTIFICATE OBLIGATION BONDS OR FUNDS DOING THAT. TALK ABOUT FINDING ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES AND THEN WE WENT TO ARPA. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CERTAIN. WE WERE TOLD WE CANNOT USE OUR FUNDS PRESENT OUR BACK TO THIS. I'M SAINT NEED TO PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO THIS THAT SAYS WE SHOULD NOT GO OUT FOR RP'S WITHOUT FUNDING SOURCES INITIATED FUNDING SOURCES WE COULD WE'RE WASTING PEOPLE'S TIME AND THAT IS NOT FAIR. WE CAN'T DO THAT TODAY. I'M JUST ASKING TO PUT ON FOR THE NEXT AGENDA PENETRANT HAVE A DISCUSSION IN ORDER. >> I THINK THE INTENT OF THIS ITEM THAT WE BROUGHT ON FOR YOU GUYS WAS TO GET SOME DIRECTION FROM THE COURT. AS TO HOW ÃJUST THINK THE GENERATORS SAVINGS ANALYSIS WOULD BE GOOD. >> I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING HERE IS THAT WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN GOING TO MORE DEBT. THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. >> WE DOESN'T COMPUTE THIS IS MR. I DON'T WANT TO SPEND A DOLLAR POSITION. I DON'T THE COUNTY AUDITORS TO CRASH. MEAN ÃJUST JUDGE WANTS TO SPEND EVERYBODY'S DEVELOPER. >> WANT TO RESTRUCTURE DEBT. WANT TO RESTRUCTURE DEBT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE INTEREST RATES.> WE WERE TALK ABOUT DELTA SOFTWARE. >> YES SIR. >> WE BEEN TALKING WITH THAT [02:45:01] AND I'M SORRY. ACTUALLY BORROW $2 MILLION AND PAID THE MILLION DOLLARS. >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT. NOT ABOUT CEOS. NOT ABOUT BONDS. IT'S JUST A LOAN. WE CAN PAY $100 MILLION OR GET THEM TO MILLION. WE CAN ALSO FIND SOME OF THE MONIES THAT WE HAVE NOW. WE FOUND SOME OF THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE NOT USED. I THINK I TALK TO. >> DALE, HE FOUND MONIES. >> RENO, LIKE I SAID, WE ARE STILL REVIEWING THE BODY ISSUE. WE CANNOT DISTANCE THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. WE CANNOT GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF ELIMINATING OR FINDING ALLOCATED FUNDS. ONCE WE COME UP WITH A PLANNED DISCUSSION AND THAT WOULD BE VERY SOON.E CAN THEN BE ABLE TO SAY OKAY, WE EXPECT THIS IS WHAT THE COST WILL BE AND WE EXPECT THIS MIGHT BE WHERE THE FUNDS CAN BE FOUND.> OKAY. >> WE NEED TO JUST BRING BACK SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT CO FUNDING WEB SOURCES. >> WAS AVAILABLE. >> IN THE SUN. >> 2 MILLION. >> JUST A LOAN IS A LOAN IS A LOAN. >> WE ARE GOING INTO DEBT AND GOING INTO BONDS. NEXT THE ONLY WAY TO PAY A DEBT IS THROUGH INS. >> I THINK THE PRACTICAL THING TO BE IS TO TABLE THIS AND GO BACK AND FIND THE POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES. PROVIDED AS BACKUP. SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION BASED UPON ACTUAL FACTS AND NOT JUST THIS AND THAT AND BURBAGE AND VERBOSE AND HER SANDS SAYING I WILL SPEND PICK SHE WANTS TO SPEND à THIS WE CAN SAVE A REAL DISCUSSION. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS INTO THE NEXT MEETING WITH THE INSTRUCTION TO BRING BACK ALL POSSIBLE FUNDING SOURCES. >> JUDGE: THEY GOT.> CEOS AND EVERYTHING SO THE COOKING OF REAL DISCUSSION. >> JUDGE: THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS AGENDA ITEM IS ALL ABOUT. YOU'VE ACTUALLY COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. OU'VE DIRECTED THE COURT. WE WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. ND GET US ON WITH SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUNDING. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? >> AND I DO THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME IDEA OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. I GET YOU CANNOT TALK PRICES IN HERE. SOMEBODY IS GOOD TO BE ABLE TO SAY ÃDESPERATE.> WE MISS INTO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> THAT IS FINE. >> AN ITEM THAT WE NEED TO GET TO. >> IF YOU REALLY WANT TO, GO BACK INTO THE MINUTES BECAUSE WE HAVE DEFINITELY REVEALED A NUMBER. AND THE COURT TEST ASSUMING, I CANNOT REVEAL TODAY, BUT IN THE PAST, WE HAVE GIVEN THE RANGE AND EVEN GIVEN WHAT WE THOUGHT IT MIGHT COME OUT AS. HAVE TO BACK IN THE MINUTES. BECAUSE THAT NUMBER HAS BEEN à ÃHAS BEEN SET PUBLIC. ALL THIS IN PAPER, SIGNIFY MISSING EYE. >> I. >> JUDGE: IT'S REALLY JUST A DIRECTIVE TO UI DAY. THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE IS NEXT ON OUR AGENDA. AND I THINK I DAYS CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WITH THIS PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE OR IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT IS AVAILABLE? >> I DO NOT HAVE ÃÃITEM NUMBER SIX. THERE'S REALLY NOTHING ON MY BACKUP. WELL, THE ONLY THING TO I CAN SAY IS WHAT WAS SAID THIS MORNING. IS THAT JOHN MITCHELL HAS DONE A GREAT JOB ALONG WITH OTHERS AND HIS TEAM IN MOVING WHAT WAS THE OLD I'M GONNA CALL IT METAL SHELVING THAT WASN'T BEING UTILIZED. AND THEY HAVE TAKEN THE SPACE à DISH A CLEAR SPACE SO THAT THE PUBLIC OFFICE CAN BE ESTABLISHED. THERE'S GOING TO BE A THREE SUBJECT ITEM. I BELIEVE IS ON HERE? ITEM NUMBER NINE THAT IS RELATED TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE. >> RIGHT NOW, THE ABILITY TO ASSIST THE RATE NOW AVAILABLE TO TALK ABOUT IT. MOST OF YOU USE AS YOU STATED JUDGE Ãà [INDISCERNIBLE] THERE CAN BE LOCATED. >> WE WERE NOT THERE TO THE SIXTH FLOOR. AND WHEN WE LEFT THERE, THERE IS A LOT OF LOT OF WORK. THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. WHY ARE WE NOT CONSIDERING THE THIRD FLOOR, WHERE THE IT USED TO BE? I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY SET UP. TO A CERTAIN POINT. WHERE YOUR INFRASTRUCTURES WOULD BE A LOT LESS. YOU AGREE TO BE A LOT LESS. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT EVEN HIGHER'S AREA, HEMPSTEAD IS ONLY $30,000 TO WORK WITH, BUT [INDISCERNIBLE] I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GETTING THE REST OF THE MONEY, BUT THERE'S NOTHING THERE AS FAR AS NOT A CONDITIONER. THE ELECTRICAL NOT ÃÃI DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A SHELL. AND UP ÃÃWHEN WE WALK THROUGH THE IT, WHICH I DONE BEFORE JUST AS WE WALKED OUT ÃÃTHAT IS AN IDEAL ÃÃWHAT IS WRONG WITH THE THIRD FLOOR ID ÃÃIT SECTION TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH [02:50:01] THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE? >> THE BOARD OF JUDGES ÃÃIF YOU LOOK AT A NUMBER NINE à THIS IT IS TO HIRE TO CONSIDER THE SELECTION AND HIRING OF SOMEBODY WHO CAN HELP WORK ON THE SPACE. FOR FIRE AND ELECTRICAL. BUT ÃÃAS I UNDERSTAND IT, IF THEY ARE ADAMANT ABOUT THE COURTHOUSE AND TOWER BEING UTILIZED THIS DISH BECAUSE IT PUTS THEM ON AN EVEN FOOTING WITH SECURITY. IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF JUSTICE THEY ARE NOT A COURTROOM. SO, THERE IS NO METAL DETECTOR. THERE IS NO SECURITY. >> WE LOOKED AT IT WITH A CONNECTION TO JUSTICE THE SECURITY CAN BE WORKED OUT. VERY SIMPLE. JUST LIKE WE DO HERE. YOU RING THE BELL, YOU COME IN. SECURITY WILL BE OUTSIDE. SO, THERE ARE WAYS OF WORKING IT HERE. YOU KNOW? HOW DO YOU EVEN HAVE AN EXPENSE. JUERGEN HAVE UP STAIRS ON THE SIXTH FLOOR. >> WE GAVE THEM THE OPTION AND THEY SAID NO. AND IT DID NOT MEET THEIR NEEDS. >> WHO SAID NO? >> WHERE'S THE MONEY COMING FROM? >> THE $30,000 THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW INSIDE THE GRANT. >> WHO SAID NO JUDGE? I THOUGHT WE DECIDED WITH THE STUFF GOES. >> JUDGE: THE ISSUE IS WE CAN BRING JUDGE MILITARY LISA GREENBERG AND THE WHOLE TEAM AGAIN. THE IDEA HERE IS THAT THE SIXTH FLOOR IS ADEQUATE BASED UPON THE NEED TO BE AND HAVE Ãà WHAT WE CALL TRUE COURTHOUSE SECURITY. REMEMBER, WITH CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY, OUR ADMIN OFFICE DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY ÃÃTHIS IS NOT A COURTROOM. DO NOT HAVE SECURITY. IN THAT SAME WAY. >> ARE WE HAVING LEGAL AID ON THAT? WE HAVE TO MOVE THEM UP BECAUSE THEY ARE ON THE FIRST FLOOR. >> AGAIN, ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS WHAT JUSTICE I CAN JUST TELL YOU. >> I CAN JUST TYPE THAT THE SIXTH FLOOR HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A GREAT LOCATION THAT THERE ARE TWO ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE DONE THERE AND SEE OKAY SHOULD BE ÃTHIS CAN BE SELECTED AND ITEM NUMBER NINE. IN ORDER TO GO UP THERE. AND THE IDEA IS TO MAKE IT SOMEWHAT A JUSTICE I WANT TO CALL IT LIKE A LOFT SPACE, WHERE IT WOULD NOT BE REFINED, BUT IT WOULD BE VERY FUNCTIONAL. WE NEED ELECTRICAL PLUGS AND à ÃAND THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SPRINKLER SYSTEM WOULD NEED TO BE MOVED. >> WHERE'S HE WANTING TO DO? >> THIRD FLOOR. >> IT OR WHERE IT WAS.BOUT NINE OFFICES THERE. THE CONFERENCE ROOMS. THERE IS A BATHROOM THAT GOES. >> THERE IS 15 PEOPLE COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. THERE IS 15 PEOPLE. >> THEY CAN CUT IN HALF. THERE ARE HUGE OFFICES. YOU CAN ALWAYS DIVIDE THEM. THE RUN HAS TO HAVE THEIR OWN OFFICE. AGAIN, SINGLE MEMBER. >> WE CAN BRING THIS BACK WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING IT. THE SPACES AVAILABLE ON THE SIXTH FLOOR, WE DID OFFER THE THIRD FLOOR. AND THE SIXTH FLOOR IS CONSIDERED A PREFERABLE SPACE. >> WHAT IS THE COST JUDGE? >> THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO SELECT SEE LK ARCHITECTS SO THEY CAN ON ITEM NUMBER NINE. >> IS THE COST WITH IN THE GRANT? >> THE GRANT HAS MULTIPLE LEVELS. SO, FOR EXAMPLE COMMISSIONER. THERE IS A TECHNOLOGY PIECE OF MONEY. THERE IS A HARD COST MONEY. A LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY. I BELIEVE WHEN YOU ADD UP THE SOFT COST THERE THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO WORK WITHIN THAT BUDGET. >> WHAT ABOUT SEE OKAY? CAN THAT BE COVERED BY THE GRANT BUDGET? >> WALL, I NEED TO BUILD TO SELECT IN ORDER TO GET CONTRACT TO FIND OUT. I MEAN WE'VE GOT THE 30. WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE LINE ITEMS IN THE GRANT. ONE IS FOR SOFTWARE AND TECHNOLOGY. AND I MENTIONED TO YOU GUYS BEFORE THAT NEEDS TO BE. >> CENTRAL AIR ELECTRICAL. >> JUDGE: THERE IS AIR. CUSTOMÁ IS NOT IN CARE CONDITIONING ÃÃAIR CONDITIONING IN THE SPACE RIGHT NOW. >> CAN I OFFER THIS PRE-TODAY. JUST MOVE IT FORWARD. I WOULD LIKE TO GO LOOK AT THOSE SPACES TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. I DID NOT KNOW WAS COMING UP AS A DEBATE. SO, WE CAN HIRE THEM AND JUST NOT SITES FOR THE SIXTH FLOOR JUST FOR NOW AND SAY IT'S FOR RENOVATION. I'M NOT SAYING TO SWITCH YOU TO IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SPACES LOOK LIKE JUDGE. >> YOU ARE JUST SAYING DON'T MENTION THE SIXTH FLOOR. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD BE HIGHER ÃÃHIRING FOUR. >> NOT SPECIFIC TO IT, MOVE THE ITEM FORWARD. >> BOUT YOU GO AHEAD. YES, MAKE THAT AMENDMENT. >> DID YOU ADVANCE NINE. [9. Discuss and consider selection of CLK Architects & Associates for Courthouse 6th floor renovations; alternatively, discuss and consider a finding for the method of procurement (request for qualifications) for architectural services for Nueces County 6th floor renovations.] [02:55:02] >> JUDGE: I WOULD. I WILL. WHAT'S WANTED TO MAKE SURE BEFORE I GO TO THE BATHROOM. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT I MISSED. I'M SO SORRY. >> JUDGE: WE WILL JUST ADVANCE ITEM NUMBER NINE. BECAUSE REALLY SIX IS JUST RECEIVING THE UPDATE. AND AGAIN, WHAT I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO DO. I DID NOT REALIZE IS CAN BE ANY CONTENTION. HERE AT ALL ON WHAT IS ALREADY BEEN, YOU KNOW, DETERMINED TO BE THE IDEAL SPACE. I THINK THAT IF THERE IS A PROBLEM, IT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK BY THE ARCHITECT AND SAY LOOK, YOUR COST ASK THE MINUTE IS X. >> THAT'S WHY WE HIRED HIM. >> COURTHOUSE RENOVATIONS AND THEN. >> I WILL TAKE THAT AS EIGHT MOTION. >> TAKE A POLYMERIC PLAY PRELIMINARY LOOK AT IT AND SO THE COURT CAN HAVE AT LEAST AN IDEA. >> THE OTHER CONSIDERATION IS THAT I WANT TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THIS. >> JUDGE: IF WE DO IT AND NEED TO USE ARPA FUNDS TO BUILD THAT OUT ÃÃTHEN WE REALLY NEED TO RFQ AN ARCHITECT AT THE SIXTH FLOOR. I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP NOW. THE I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE 30,000 WOULD NOT BE SUFFICIENT. AND THEREFORE IF WE WERE USING ARPA FUNDS. I CAN ALSO MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT I THINK THAT THERE IS CAN BE BASED UPON LAST WEEK'S CONTRACT. THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. THERE IS GOING TO BE GENERATOR SAVINGS. AND SO, WE CAN TAKE A SMALL PORTION THEIR PRESENT. >> CAN USE ARPA FUNDS FOR THIS? S THAT EVEN ELIGIBLE? TO ENJOY ABOUT IT? >> WELL, IT'S A POINT.> IT'S ELIGIBLE. >> I THINK WOULD BE UNDER THE COVID. >> I WOULD CAUTION THE COURT ABOUT IF WE'RE GONNA USE ARPA FUNDS IN ANY WAY WITH THIS PROJECT ÃÃI'M GONNA HAVE TO RFQ THE ENGINEER. >> THAT'S ÃÃTHESE PEOPLE NEED TO GET UP AND RUNNING RIGHT AWAY. AND IT'S GONNA DELAY THE PROJECT AT LEAST FOUR MONTHS BEFORE. >> THAT IS WHY IT'S ON HERE. THE RFQ. I'M LETTING YOU KNOW THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO USE THOSE FUNDS IF WE JUST DID THIS STRAIGHT OUT SELECTION. >> AGAIN, THE THOUGHT HERE IS WEIGHT, SO, GOING BACK TO MY EARLIER TEST IS ONLY JUST LOOK HERE. THE FUNDING SOURCE IS NOT IDENTIFIED IN HERE EITHER, RIGHT? >> AGAIN, WE HAVE THE FUNDING SOURCE IS THE GRANT ITSELF. >> WE JUST NEED TO SAY THAT. THE PSALM SAME. >> WE NEED TO IDENTIFYING IT. >> WAS SEE OKAY, IT WOULD BE THE GRANT ITSELF. OKAY? >> THERE'S MONEY TO COVER. >> THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY. AGAIN, WE WOULD NEED TO SELECT SEE OKAY AND THEN SIT DOWN WITH THEM IMMEDIATELY AND TALK ABOUT THAT SPACES THAT ARE AVAILABLE. AND HOW THEY WOULD APPROACH THE PROJECT AND THE TIMEFRAME THAT IS NEEDED. AND AGAIN.> WITH THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. >> AND WITH THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE. >> AND I SAT IN ON THE WALK-THROUGH WITH GEORGE SCUDERI. AND AMANDA, I WENT THROUGH THAT SPACE.ND WE TALKED ABOUT THE MAP OF THE SIXTH FLOOR LOCATION. AND THE SPACE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW IS A TINY SECTION OF THE ROOM. THEIR ULTIMATE VISION OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE IS THAT AT SOME POINT THAT IT MAY GROW BEYOND THAT SPACE AND TAKE UP PERHAPS SIZE EQUIVALENT TO THE OFFICE. >> THAT MIGHT BE A VISION. THAT IS NOT A VISION THAT HAS BEEN AGREED TO ON THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. >> I'M AWARE AND THAT IS PROBABLY WHY THE SELECTION WAS THERE. DID THE ABILITY TO GROW BECAUSE THE PLACE ON THE THIRD FLOOR à ÃTHERE IS NO ROOM TO GROW THERE.>> JUDGE: I THINK THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN IS SECURITY. OKAY? PERIOD. >> ANYONE WHO WENT IN THERE HAD TO PASS THEIR SECURITY. >> THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS ARE GONNA BE HANDLING AGAIN. >> WE TALKED ABOUT SECURING THE MALL. WE CAN GO BACK INTO THE DISCUSSION TO BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED MORE SECURITY ON ALL THREE FLOORS ANYWAY. FOR ALL OF US. >> JUDGE, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA GET THAT DONE BEFORE THESE PEOPLE NEED TO START [INDISCERNIBLE] >> I THINK HIRING SEE OKAY IS STEP ONE. AND ONCE STEP ONE HAS HAPPENED, WE CALL A MEETING AND THEN WE START JUST AS WE START MOVING AND MOVING FAST. >> JUDGE, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO CONSIDER. DID I MAKE IT? >> WELL, DEPUTY TOWARDS HER. > HAD NOT FINISHED DEPUTY GONZALEZ PRETTY WAS JUST AMENDING UP HER. >> OKAY. IT JUST ÃÃI'M GONNA MAKE THE MOTION THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE SIX FLOOR RENOVATIONS. JUST TAKE OUT THE WORD SIX FLOOR RENOVATIONS PER. >> SECOND. >> THERE IS EIGHT MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE TEST IS CALLED OUTCOME IS ASKING ME A QUESTION. >> I'M SAYING DISCUSSING THE SELECTION OF THEM FOR THE COURTHOUSE RENOVATIONS FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES. FOR THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE. [03:00:02] I JUST DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD AT THIS .6 FLOOR. NOT SAYING I'M AGAINST IT. I'M JUST SAYING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GO LOOK AT. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GET THEM ON BOARD SO THAT HE CAN GIVE US AN OPINION. WHATEVER THAT IS AT SEE OKAY. HE OR SHE OR WHOEVER. SO. >> AND THERE IS A SECOND FOR THAT, CORRECT COMMISSIONER GONZALES? AND ALL IS IN FAVOR SIGNIFY JUST AS ANY OTHER ACTION? ACTION DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY MISSING I. I. IN THE SUN COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, I RECOGNIZE THAT THE CRAZY HOUR HERE AND ALSO THAT CHIEF CLACK IS HERE. CAN I ADVANCE? FOR CHIEF CLACK SAID THAT HE DOES NOT HAVE TO WAIT? >> SORRY, I DID NOT SEE HIM OVER THERE. THANK YOU. >> YES MA'AM.> COULD GET THAT GOING? >> JUDGE, YOUR MEMBER THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT WAS TABLE. THE DESCRIPTION HAS BEEN PLACED NOW IN THE AGENDA AS BACKUP. IT DOES HAVE ALL THE REDLINES INCORPORATED AND IS NO LONGER REDLINE. BUT IT WAS JUST MADE INTO A REGULAR VERSION SO THAT EVERYONE COULD READ THAT IN ADVANCE. THIS WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF CHIEF CLACK ANYTHING CHIEF, AS HE SAID, ALSO VISITED WITH TWO THE OTHER ESD. I'M NOT SURE. WAS PRIMARILY CHIEF CLACK AND HE DID THE WORK ON THIS. I JUST SENT IT TO HIM AND SAID YOU ARE THE PROFESSIONAL PRINTS TELL US WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE LAST TIME. AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AT THIS TIME. THAT IS THE PRECURSOR THE CHIEF WANTS TO ADD. >> CHIEF, JUST LET US EXPRESS GRATITUDE FOR BEING OUT HERE TODAY. FOR WORKING ON THE DESCRIPTION AND I THINK THAT YOU WANT TO ADD. >> NO MA'AM. >> I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT I GOT WITH THE OTHER ESD COMMISSIONERS AND THE OTHER ESD DISTRICTS. AND CONSULTED AND THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. ALONG WITH SOME OF THE OTHERS TO GIVE SOME MORE PRESIDENTS ON WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR FOR THE COUNTY. AND I THINK THAT YOU GET A VERY GOOD JOB DESCRIPTION THERE NOW. >> THAT IS AWESOME. AND THAT GIVES US A REASON TO SAY IS THERE EIGHT MOTION TO APPROVE THIS JOB DESCRIPTION? >> JUDGE, I WOULD ALSO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND APPROVE THE POSTING OF THE SESSION. >> I WILL SECOND THAT.S THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR NEED FOR CHIEF CLACK? >> THE ONLY DISCUSSION I HAVE IS SHARE IF YOU WILL. WITH EVERYBODY IN YOUR AS THEY SAY, YOU KNOW? CIRCLE OF FRIENDS. [LAUGHTER] >> JUDGE: THAT WOULD BE MOST APPRECIATED CHIEF. >> ONE THING I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT WE POST THIS ON THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON FIRE PROTECTION JOB BOARD. IT IS FREE.ORKS THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. CAN WE ADD THAT? >> I WILL POST IT THERE.HAT IS VERY CAN GET YOUR BIGGEST OUTCOME OF APPLICATIONS. >> AWESOME. >> WE WILL DO THAT. >> EXCUSE ME CHIEF, GLOBAL QUESTION. >> YES SIR? >> THIS REGULAR RECOMMENDATION THAT ART YOU ARE MAKING, DOES THAT INCLUDE GETTING SOMEBODY THAT'S ALREADY READY TO GO AS FAR MARSHALL? >> YES SIR. THE ONLY THING THAT I RECOMMENDED WAS THAT WE CHANGE THE JOB REQUIREMENTS AS A MUST TO DATE MUST HAVE ALREADY BE CERTIFIED AS A FIRE PLANS EXAMINER. AND ALSO A FIRE INSPECTOR. BECAUSE THAT IS THE PRIMARY CONCERN THAT WE NEED HERE WITHIN THE COUNTY IS THE INSPECTOR SIDE OF IT. WE PREFER TO HAVE ÃÃAS THE JOB DESCRIPTION SAYS. TO ALREADY HAVE FIRE INVESTIGATORS AND ARSON INVESTIGATORS ALSO.UT THE IMPORTANT THING FOR US IS THAT THEY HAVE TO BE PLANNED EXAMINER. SO THEY CAN HIT THE GROUND RUNNING READY TO DO INSPECTIONS. >> I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU SIR. >> JUDGES. >> THANK YOU. GET SOMETHING ELSE COMMISSIONER? >> LOOKING AT THIS.> ALL ALONG, MAKING SHIRTS IN HERE. >> DID THIS AT THE CHANGED REPORTING STRUCTURE THAT WE HAD? I HAVE TO FIND THAT TO WHERE THIS REPORTS TO THE. >> COMMISSIONERS COURT? >> IT TOOK REPORTED TO THE COUNTY MANAGER AND IN THE COMMISSIONERS COURT HIRED à THAT'S WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO SAY. >> I DON'T THINK THE YOU CAN HAVE A PEACE OFFICER REPORTING TO THE COUNTY MANAGER. I THINK IT WAS THE COURT. IT WAS THE COURT I BELIEVE. COMMISSIONER. >> HOLD ON, LET ME JUST ÃTHIS IS A GOT LEFT OUT OF THE MIX UP HERE. AND ALL THE CHANGES. NOW THAT I AM ÃJUST HOLD ON A MINUTE. >> YOU CAN JUST ADD IT. >> OKAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS IS ABSURD., HOW GOT LEFT OUT. SO ÃÃTHE AMENDMENT WOULD BE AN IT MIGHT BE HERE THEN I'M JUST MISSING IT. HE COMMISSIONERS COURT? >> JUDGE: YES. THERE IS A PEACE OFFICER. >> IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT'S THE DEPARTMENT HEAD. >> IT DOES. FOR INVESTIGATIONS AND ALL THOSE REASONS. I MEAN, YOU WOULD WANT SOMEBODY. >> WE ARE NOT PEACE OFFICERS. >> THAT IS THE.2. WE ARE ELECTED'S. >> WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL OF THE CITY REPORTS TO THE CITY MANAGER AND HE IS A PEACE [03:05:03] OFFICER. SO, I THINK IT. >> THAT IS YOUR PLEASURE. I'M JUST WONDERING HOW A COURT MANAGER TEST IS CURRENTLY GOING TO NOT. WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED? >> SHE'S NOT JUSTICE SHE'S GONNA TO BRING IT TO US. SHE'S JUST IS JUST LIKE ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT. >> WAS THE MOTION BE THAT HE OR SHE PRINT. >> THEIR REPORT US ULTIMATELY. BECAUSE THE COURT MANAGER PORTS TOAST ULTIMATELY. THERE IS A HIERARCHY. >> REPORT TO THE COUNTY MANAGER. AND BE HIRED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AS A BODY THAT WOULD BE MY AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION. I DON'T HAVE THE GOT LEFT OUT. >> YOU'RE GONNA MAKE THIS PERSON COMPLETELY SEPARATE. HOLDEN COMES JULIE RACING INTO SAY SOMETHING. OKAY. JULIE, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD? THAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED ON THERE ALREADY? >> IT DOES NOT HAVE IT ON THE PREDESIGNATED SHORELINE WOULD HAVE THE COMMISSIONERS SIGNATURES SO WE WOULD PUT IN REPORTS TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. >> )WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WE WOULD REPORT TO THE COUNTY MANAGER AND THEN HIRED BY THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS CORPORATE STICK WITH YOU ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS NOW. >> WE CAN PUT THAT IN THERE. >> THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. THAT BE ADDED. >> IT WAS APPROVED, CORRECT? >> WERE JUST ABOUT TO GET THERE. >> YES. >> WITH THAT AMENDMENT SO, THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT IN BEFORE YOU POST IT.> YES. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY SO BY SAYING I. >> I. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> JUDGE, WE NEED TO BRING BACK AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE IS THAT CORRECT? >> WAIT, THERE HAS TO BE AN RFQ DUE TO TID C. OKAY. ALRIGHT SO. >> THERE HAS TO BE WHAT? >> THERE HAS TO BE AN RFQ. >> WE WILL USE THE FEDERAL FUNDING. TID C IS FOR FEDERAL FUNDING. BECAUSE TID C IS FEDERAL FUNDING. >> IT'S ARE PROPHETIC FROM TID C. WE ARE A SUB RECIPIENT. WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND CAN DO THAT REAL QUICKLY SO THAT YOU CAN STILL CHECK OUR BREAK? >> CAN YOU WITHDRAW? >> TID C. >> IS DEFENSE COMMISSION. THE DOLLARS THAT WERE BEING GIVEN. >> FEDERAL DOLLARS. SO, WE'RE SUBJECT TO THE TWO CFR 200 RULE. >> JUDGE: WHICH MEANS WE HAVE TO RFQ IT. >> WITH THE RFQ. >> OTHER OPERA FUNDS IN THERE? >> TID C IS USING OPERA FUNDS. >> YES. >> THERE ARE ARPA FUNDS. ARPA FUNDS.> WE HAVE TO RFQ IT. >> MOTION TO RECONSIDER NUMBER NINE JUDGE? >> I WILL TAKE A SECOND AND ALL THIS SIGNIFIED MISSING I. >> I. >> FOR THE SAME SIDE. COMMISSIONER? >> MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM IN ORDER TO COULD. >> WE REALLY HAVE THAT. WE HAVE THE ALTERNATIVE THERE. >> IT'S ALREADY IN THE PRINT. >> ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ACT ON IT. >> THE ORDER IS ALREADY BEEN REVIEWED BY COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE? >> WE PUT THE RFQ IN THERE. >> YES IT IS. >> HOLD ON. >> JUST DISCUSSED THE METHOD FOR PROCUREMENT. >> DISCUSSED FINDING THE METHOD.> IT'S MIGHT NORMALLY WHICH WHEN THEY COME ASKED TO COME OUT TO RFQ. THAT IS WHAT'S IN HERE IS YOUR OPTION. >> DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CL K COURTHOUSE THE CONSIDER RUNNING A METHOD OF PROCUREMENT REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE ARPA SERVICES. WE WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT. THERE IS NO ORDER TO TEST. >> I LIKE TO ORDER THE COUNTY CLERK. >> THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE NEED A MOTION TO æ >> I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT WE. >> RFQ? >> RFQ IT. I'M NOT GONNA MOVE TO APPROVE THE ORDER UNTIL I SEE THAT. I THINK IT'S SITTING WITH YOU GUYS. >> ,COME BACK TO THIS ONE THEN? >> THAT IS FINE. IF YOU DON'T MIND. MICHAEL THAT'S JUST MAKE SURE YOU GET TO EVERYBODY. >> SURE. >> SUBJECT TO RECEIPT. >> WELL, I'M THINKING THAT HE IS REPRESENTING THAT IT SAYS AN RFQ FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE SIX. >> LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET IT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET IT TO YOU IF YOU DON'T MIND. >> THANK YOU. >> IN ME SAY THE SIXTH FLOOR. SO, WE CAN REVIEW. AND EDIT IT. >> MICHAEL IT SAYS SIX FOUR. >> IT SAYS SIXTH FLOOR. OKAY, THANKS. >> AND AGAIN, I'M SORRY. >> AGAIN, AS REMEMBER I SAID, WE'LL HAVE A FEW MORE MINUTES. [7. Discuss and consider Supplement No. 1 to Hazard Mitigation Action Plan Consulting Services agreement with Lockwood, Andrews & Newnam, Inc. proofing for additional services related to inclusion of four jurisdictions and removal of Port of Corpus Christi from updated Hazard Mitigation Plan.] UT I THINK THE FIRST ONE IS THIS DISH WHEN WE SKIPPED IS SOMEWHAT SELF-EXPLANATORY GIVEN DANNY HALES COMMENTS THIS MORNING ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. FOR THE REASONS ALREADY SET FORTH ON THE HOUSE OF MITIGATION ACTION PLAN [03:10:01] CONSULTING SERVICES. THE REMOVAL OF THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI ÃÃTHEY GONNA DO THEIR OWN. THEY ARE STARTING A PARTICIPANT IN A STAKEHOLDER PRINT THIS IS SO THEY CAN INCLUDE SAN PATRIZIO AND HOURS OF COURSES NUECES COUNTY ONLY. >> THAT'S TRAUMATIC. THAT IS MY QUESTION ON THIS GEORGE. >> WHY ARE WE ADDING? >> IT'S JUST AN INTENT TO WITHDRAW.EMEMBER? SHE SAID THAT THIS MORNING. >> I KNOW THEY ARE WITHDRAWN, BUT I KNOW WE ARE ADDING ADDITIONAL SHORT JURISDICTIONS. THAT'S WHY WILL PULL UP AGAIN REAL QUICK. IS THAT NOT RIGHT? C. IF YOU HAVE TO ADD. >> JUDGE: THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE THE CITY OF DRISCOLL, DD TWO, DD THREE, WATER CONTROL, I THOUGHT WE WERE ALREADY ON THE PRINT. >> IT'S WE ARE ALREADY ON THE PIT WHERE WE ADDING? >> THOSE JURISDICTIONS NEED TO BE INSIDE OUR HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN. BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS ASK LOUIS. AGAIN, THIS IS JUST TO DELINEATE IF THEY ARE TO BE INCLUDED.E WILL TAKE OVER THE WHOLE TEST TEST HERE IS GLUEY. THE WEEK? CAN YOU EXPLAIN CAN YOU EXPLAIN JUST MAKING CERTAIN THAT THEY ARE ALL INCLUDED IN OUR HAZARD MITIGATION? >> THAT IS CORRECT JUDGE. COURT. AND THE FIRST INITIAL MOVE FOR THE HVAC, WE DID INCLUDE THE JURISDICTION. THOSE JURISDICTIONS REALLY NEED TO BE INSIDE NUECES COUNTY HAZMAT. FOR THE HVAC PLAN. >> THEY WERE NOT DELINEATED. SO, THIS IS RESULTS AND ANYTHING BUT INCLUDING THEM, BECAUSE THEY ARE JUST AS THEY WERE NOT SPECIFICALLY INCLUDED BEFORE? >> THAT IS CORRECT. AND WOMAN FIRST DATED IT ÃÃIT WAS REALLY A SKELETON THAT WE USED TO TRY AND TO THE MAP. WE REALLY NEEDED A BIGGER AND MORE ROBUST CREW FOR THAT TEAM. AND THAT INCLUDED THE DISTRICT COURT. WAS SOMETHING TITLED IN MY PART. AND SO, WE'RE TRYING TO CORRECT THAT. >> WE PAINT ALL THIS FOR ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS? >> IT'S AN INCREASE OF $22,000 CUMULATIVELY. >> RIGHT, IT'S BECAUSE THERE IS AN INCREASE OF 22, BECAUSE THERE WAS A DECREASE IN TAKING THE PORT OUT. SO, I'M KIND OF QUESTIONING WHY WE ARE PAYING FOR THIS FOR THESE ENTITIES.T SOUNDS LIKE IT'S COMING OUT OF COUNTY FUNDS. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT AND SO, THAT ÃJUST MAYBE IT'S MORE THAN A TWO-MINUTE DEAL JUDGE. AND I DON'T WANT TO RUN YOUR TEST TEST. >> LOUIS, THE ITEM HERE IS THAT THE QUESTION IS THAT IT IS REQUIRED. TO PRODUCE AT THE STATE OF TEXAS, CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> THESE JURISDICTIONS THAT FALL WITHIN NUECES COUNTY THAT FALLS UNDER JURISDICTIONS, RIGHT? >> THAT IS TRUE. RISKING ANYBODY ELSE TO PAY ANY OTHER ENTITY? >> WE ARE NOT ASKING ANYONE JUDGE. >> JUST ACCOUNT. >> SO, THE ISSUE IS AS IT WAS PRESENTED TO ME THIS IS OUR DUTY TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THEY ARE INCLUDED. >> AS WE INDICATED 80,000 BACK THEN ÃÃTO INCLUDE THE PORT à ÃSO, WE SHOULD NOT NEED TO 80,000. THE DISTRICT TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE. AND DRISCOLL. SO, WHY ARE WE ASKING FOR ANOTHER 22,000? BECAUSE IT'S COSTING MORE MONEY. >> TO COVER OUR JURISDICTIONS. >> NOT OURS. >> THEY ARE WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION. >> HEY LOUIS. >> LOUIS, WAS THIS POST BE DONE THREE WEEKS AGO WHEN YOU WERE TAKING UP THE MONEY? >> NO COMMISSION. >> THE ENDPOINT WAS NONDESIGNATED. >> WE HAD THE FILE IMPORTANT DOCUMENT WITHIN THREE WEEKS. OMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. AN INITIAL REPORT WILL BE TAKING ON. >> WE NEED TO DO THIS RIGHT NOW? >> JUDGE: WE CAN PASS ON THIS RIGHT NOW AND COME BACK LATER. THE REAL ISSUE I THINK IS I NEED TO LOOK BACK. 'M PRETTY CERTAIN THAT IT IS OUR OBLIGATION TO TAKE CARE OF NUECES COUNTY AND THESE WERE ADDITIONAL JURISDICTIONS. >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE WRONG. THAT'S WHY QUESTION SOME OF THESE. >> WE CAN LOOK AT THESE PROGRESSIVE A LITTLE MIKE. MAYBE YOU CAN CALL PAIDEIA. >> MAYBE WE SHOULD LET HIM GO [03:15:04] BECAUSE ÃÃI'M SO SORRY. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> JUDGE: DAVID, I'M SORRY. WE'RE DOING A 12Ä2:30 EVENT. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS THAT WHO IS RESPONSIBLE BRENT? I DON'T ÃÃI JUST ÃÃIT APPEARS THAT NUECES READING IS NUECES. >> [INDISCERNIBLE] I CAN UNDERSTAND. >> THESE ARE ALL Ãà [INDISCERNIBLE] >> JUDGE: WELL AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST PART OF THE NUECES COUNTY ÃÃTHE DUTIES. >> WE SERVICE THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR THIS DISTRICT. SO IT WOULD BE THE STATE TO FOLLOW UP ON US AS THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR THE NUECES. >> JUDGE: RIGHT. ALL WE ARE SAYING IS THAT ORIGINALLY, WE DID NOT INCLUDE THIS. THIS IS SCOOPING UP EVERYBODY ELSE THAT WE NEED TO INCLUDE AND DECREASING ONE OF THEM. I GUESS IN MANY WAYS, THE PORTS WITHDRAW WAS I HELP. >> HEADED WE COME UP WITH 22,000? >> BECAUSE IT TOOK AWAY WHAT WE ARE PAYING FOR THE PORT AND THEN ADDED IN WITH THESE NEW ABLE COST IS WHAT I LOOKED UP. >> JUDGE: GUESS, NOW WE HAVE EVERYBODY UNDER ONE UMBRELLA? >> THAT IS CORRECT JUDGE. >> JUDGE: WELL, IT'S JUST PART OF THOSE H MAP UNDEFENDED MINUTES.RIGHT? >> WHAT IS THE LAWN THAT JUDGE? THAT'S ALL MASKING. >> JUDGE: CAN YOU HELP BY GETTING THE STATUTE. MAYBE CALL IF YOU DO NOT HAVE IT HANDY. GETTING GARY VARNEY TO ASSIST. H MAP IS OUR FIVE-YEAR PLAN IS REQUIRED, CORRECT LOUIS? >> THAT IS CORRECT JUDGE. >> IN THE STATE OF TEXAS REQUIRES IT. >> YES. >> JUDGE: OKAY. >> ASKED ME THE STATE OF TEXAS AND AT SOME PORTIONS TEST TEST FEMA REQUIRES IT TO HAVE H MAP. >> OKAY. THEY REQUIRE US TO SCOOP UP ALL OF OUR ENTITIES, RIGHT? >> THAT IS CORRECT JUDGE. >> IF YOU JUST GET THAT, THAT, THAT INFORMATION. WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. FIND WHERE AS I SAY ÃTHIS WHERE DOES IT SAY IT IS WRITTEN? >> DO WE HAVE TO DO? >> WE DO FOR ALL OF THESE. >> IT'S FOR ANYBODY THAT WE ARE ACTING AS THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT MANAGER FOUR. IS THAT CORRECT LOUIS? >> THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT JUDGE. YES. >> JUDGE: MAYBE JUST CALL GARY AND SEE IF HE CAN SHOOT OVER SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS. AND AGAIN, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE DO NOT LEAVE ANYBODY OUT. BUT AS WE FIGURED OUT THAT THESE DISTRICTS TEST IS PARTICULARLY NUECES COUNTY CLINICS NUMBER THREE AND NUMBER FIVE AND NUMBER FOUR ÃÃI'M SORRY, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE. WATER DISTRICT NUMBER FIVE. THEY WERE NOT IN. THIS IS AN EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR H MAP IS COMPLETE. RIGHT? >> YES. SO OKAY. SEE YOU CAN GET THAT INFORMATION WILL JUST PASS ON IT FOR RIGHT NOW. HOW IS THAT? >> IN THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI IS NOT ON THIS. THAT IS INTERESTING. [LAUGHTER] >> JUDGE: LOUIS, DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI? YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT. >> AS FAR AS THE H MAP? >> YES.> WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO WAS COVER THE ENTIRE COUNTY OF NUECES. WE SEE THE ÃÃIT'S MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THE FLOOD AND ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IN NUECES IS A MITIGATING FACTOR. THAT IS WHAT THEIR MAIN CONCERN IS. AND THEN AS WE START TO DEVELOP OUR ÃTHIS FROM OUR H MAP PROCESSES, WE CAN USE THIS AS PART OF DEVELOPING A MITIGATION FUNDING SOURCE FOR ANY ISSUES THAT WE HAVE ON OUR NATURAL HAZARDS. >> IN THEIR PARTICIPATING? >> THEY ARE PARTICIPATING COMMISSION. >> CURRENT. JUDGES, LISTENER. >> YOU ARE ON. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.> JUDGE: ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? >> SECOND. >> JUDGE: YES, I KNOW. COMMISSIONER? LET ME JUST AS I WAS WAITING FOR I DAY, I AM HAPPY TOGETHER A LISTEN. 1:20 4 PM.AND YOU WENT TO TABLE ITEMS TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO Y? >> [INDISCERNIBLE] >> WHILE I GET THIS BACK ON THE NEXT AGENDA FOR APRIL 29 AND WE WILL GET LOUIS TO GIVE US SOME INFORMATION ABOUT PAYMENT FROM EVERYBODY ELSE. WHAT DID I SAY? [LAUGHTER] THAT WOULD BE A LONG TIME. HOW ABOUT AUGUST 29? ABOUT AUGUST 29? [03:20:01] AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS TIME SENSITIVE. BUT, I MIGHT BE. SO, I AM HAPPY TO TABLE IT RIGHT NOW.WOULD YOU MIND ALSO I CHECKED WITH LOUIS? OH MY GOSH, YOU ARE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU LOUIS FOR. >> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, IT IS A LITTLE BIT TIME SENSITIVE RIGHT NOW. >> TELL ME. THE REASON BEING TECHNICALLY WE NEED TO DRAW ÃÃLET ME SWING THAT. YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION ON 11? >> GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO EXPLAIN IT. WE CAN ALWAYS BRING IT BACK COMMISSIONER. >> I'M STILL GONNA VOTE TO TABLE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO LET YOU EXPLAIN. >> YES. >> THE REASON BEING ÃÃSO, IT'S SOMETHING UP TO THE COURT IF THEY WANT TO INCLUDE THOSE ADDITIONAL DISTRICTS THAT YOU WANT. WE CAN ASK THOSE DISTRICTS PAY A PORTION OF THIS BEING OUTSTANDING. IN SEEING IF THEY WOULD WANT TO DO THAT. THE ISSUE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IS BECAUSE WE STARTED A PROCESS ÃIF WE GET TOO FAR ALONG IN THE PROCESS ÃTHIS HAVING TO GO BACK AND SAY HEY DISTRICTS, WE DO NOT WANT TO INCLUDE THESE IN THE DISTRICTS AND DRAINAGE DISTRICTS.T'S GOING TO BE A MESSY PROCESS TO START OVER AGAIN. >> I DON'T WANT TO EXCLUDE ANYBODY THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO. I'M JUST NOT READY. >> JUDGE: THE ONLY CONCERN IS à ÃAND JUST SO YOU KNOW ÃÃTHE CONCERN IS ÃÃIF ANY OTHER ENTITY IS PAYING TESTED LOUIS, CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT? OR IF ANY OF THE ENTITIES PAYING? >> NO JUDGE. THE ONLY ENTITIES THAT WE COUNTED THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE 2017. WE DID THE MAP NOW IS THE WATER DISTRICTS AND DRAINAGE DISTRICTS. >> REMIND THEM, WITHOUT AN H MAP IN IT ÃÃTHEY ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO GET FEDERAL FUNDS FOR FEMA GRANTS. >> THAT IS WHY WE DO THE H MAP. >> I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT. THERE'S THE OTHER QUESTIONS. ANYWAY, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO AVOID VOICE Ãà INDISCERNIBLE] >> UNTIL THE 29TH. >> LOUIS, CAN WE WENT TO THE 29TH? >> WE CAN JUDGE. WE'RE GONNA HAVE ONE MEETING THAT CAN HAPPEN ON THE 30TH. DOES NOT A MEETING THAT'S GOING TO BE TOO DRIVEN. WE CAN MAKE A DECISION AND WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AND LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE COURT'S DECISION IS. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WE WILL JUST GO AHEAD AND TABLE UNTIL THE 29TH. ALL RIGHT? I'M WAITING FOR A SECOND. >> I DID. >> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY HAS A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING II. >> I. >> ALSO, I HAVE A HARD 5 O'CLOCK LEAD. I CANNOT GO PAST FIVE TODAY. IF THE COMMISSION WOULD GRANT. [8. Discuss and consider method of procurement (request for qualifications) for engineering services for drainage solutions under the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) drainage allocation.] >> I THINK THAT IS PART OF OUR POLICY. >> JUDGE: THAT IS FINE COMMISSIONER. I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS EIGHT MOTION UNLESS YOU WANT TO STAY AFTER 5 O'CLOCK AND WORK. SO, WILL MOVE ON. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER METHOD OF PROCUREMENT FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR DRAINAGE SOLUTIONS UNDER OUR BUT DRAINAGE SOLUTIONS PER THAT IS FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. AND AGAIN ÃÃONCE WE KNEW AN RFQ WOULD BE NEEDED IN ORDER TO HIRE ENGINEERS AND YOU ALL HAVE SOME VERY GOOD DRAINAGE PROCESS. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PLEASE LET MICHAEL WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO GET AN RFQ PUT TOGETHER FOR DRAINAGE SOLUTIONS. SO THAT SOME OF YOUR GOOD DOLLARS CAN START WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE. >> WHEN WE DO THAT ON THE PROJECT BY PROJECT?E WOULDN'T WANT TO DO JUST OVERALL.> BECAUSE HE CAN DO THAT. >> WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT IT'S GOOD FOR THE COURT TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE A DIRECTION TO ME THAT Y'ALL WOULD WANT ME TO PROCURE THOSE ENGINEERING SERVICES VIA THE RFQ METHODOLOGY. AND YES, I WILL COME BACK ON A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS WITH THE FORMAL ASK AT THE TIME THAT HE IDENTIFIES THIS PROJECT. >> JUDGE: YOU MIGHT WANT TO CUMULATIVELY GIVE THEM. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ MIGHT HAVE FOUR PROJECTS AND HE MIGHT HAVE ONE ENGINEER FOR ALL FOUR. SAME THING WITH COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. >> JUST A GENERAL DIRECTION OF MOTION. >> THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE WHEN QUAN CAME IN WITH OTHER PROJECTS THAT HE WANTED TO USE LIKE A CO-OP WITH. ND THE COURT DID NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH ON THAT PROCESS. IT'S HELPFUL FOR ME TO HIM WHEN WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COURT WOULD LIKE FROM US. >> JUDGE: THERE'S A SCALE ARGUMENT. IF THESE DISTRICTS AND WATERSHEDS DON'T REALLY JUSTICE NOT WATERSHEDS, BUT THE HYDROLOGICAL UNITS ÃÃTHEY DO NOT NECESSARILY UNDERSTAND YOUR PRESENT BOUNDARIES.O, YOU MAY WANT TO WORK WITH ONE ENGINEER FOR ALL OF YOUR PROJECTS. YOU MAY NOT. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU GET MORE BANG FOR YOUR BUCK IF YOU THINK ABOUT HOW YOU WOULD WANT TO WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON YOUR DRAINAGE PROJECTS. EITHER WAY ÃÃYOU NEED TO [03:25:01] START THE RFP PROCESS. >> I DEFER TO JUAN TO PACKAGE THIS HOWEVER YOU SEE FIT. >> JUDGE: WE NEED HELP NOW. CUSTOMÁ [INDISCERNIBLE] >> JUDGE: YOU WILL SECOND THAT? >> WHAT I THINK Y'ALL ARE DOING NOW IS GIVING DIRECTION. YOU ARE NOT APPROVING ANY PARTICULAR RFQ? >> THAT IS CORRECT. THIS IS BRINGING BACK AND PLEASE GET US THIS SO WE CAN START THESE GREAT DRAINAGE PROJECTS BUT YOU WILL SECOND MY MOTION SENATOR GONZALES? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY THE SINAI. >> I. >> I RECOMMENDATION. CAN WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? AND CONDUCT THESE HERE. >> JUDGE: OF COURSE. >> MR. RECTOR HAS BEEN WAITING FOR A LONG TIME. >> 14 AND 15 AND 16, RIGHT? >> YES. LET ME DOUBLE CHECK. ITEM NUMBER 14, EXECUTIVE. ITEM NUMBER 15 IS EXECUTIVE. AND ITEM NUMBER 16 IS [1. Receive a presentation of the proposed Hilltop Community Facility from Richter Architects.] EXECUTIVE. JENNY, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHERS? >> I THINK THE OTHERS THAT WE HAVE LISTED ARE IN THE à DESPERATE. >> JUDGE THIS COULD BE A LONG EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> I'M HAPPY TO HAVE MR. RECTOR FIRST AND THEN EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> HE IS BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME. NO, NO. I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE LUNCH. YES.> SOUNDS GOOD. >> DAVID? PLEASE REMEMBER HOW EXCITED COMMISSIONER CHESNEY WAS TO HEAR ABOUT THIS PROJECT.> YES I DO. AND THANK YOU. >> I AM EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT IT FOR AN HOUR. >> I'M FINE.HANK YOU. I'M HAPPY TO SEE THE WHEELS OF GOVERNMENT TURNED SO SMOOTHLY. SO ÃÃWE HAVE A POWERPOINT AND I'M NOT SURE. >> YES, CONNIE IS CAN BRING IT UP. ITEM IS STILL TOP. HELL TOP COMMUNITY FACILITY. >> I'M HERE TODAY TO PRESENT A 50 PERCENT DESIGN DEVELOPMENT REALLY UPDATE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ACTION REQUIRED UNTIL THE END OF THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PHASE. BUT I WANTED TO UPDATE THE COURT SO YOU COULD SEE WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE THE DOLLARS LOOK AT THIS POINT AND THE SCOPE PRIMARILY PAIRED BUT ALSO THE DESIGN. THE PROJECT IS MOVING ALONG VERY, VERY WELL. IN ADDITION TO THE RENDERINGS THAT I'M GONNA SHOW YOU THAT ARE VERY DESCRIPTIVE ÃÃWE HAVE MORE THAN 100 SHEETS OF TECHNICAL DRAWINGS THAT WE HAVE SUBMITTED THE PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE REVIEW AS A PART OF THIS PHASE OF WORK. THERE IS A LOT MORE WORK THAT YOU SEE. WHAT YOU SEE IS A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF THE EFFORT. SO, NEXT SLIDE? HE PROJECT ÃÃTHERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW AND YOU CAN SEE THE THREE WINGS OF HELL TOP THAT HAVE THIS SORT OF DARK BAN ON THE TOP OF THEM. THOSE ARE THE THREE NORTH WINGS. AND THOSE ARE WILL TAKE SOLAR PANELS AND THUS REPRESENT THE THREE WINGS THAT ARE THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THIS PROJECT. THE OTHER THREE ARE SORT OF HELD FOR FUTURE USE. THE SQUARE FOOTAGE REPRESENTED BY THESE THREE IS CLOSE TO 30,000 SQUARE FEET. IT'S ACTUALLY SORT OF BIGGER THAN THE BASE PROGRAM REQUIREMENT OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER. A LITTLE BIT BIGGER. THERE IS SORT OF ROOM TO GROW. BUT THERE STILL IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF HILLTOP AVAILABLE FOR OTHER AND FUTURE USES. YOU CAN SEE THE THREE COURTYARDS THERE. YOU NEED TO CLICK THE NEXT SLIDE, THAT'S FINE.HE BUILDING, AS YOU RECALL IS VERY MUCH AN INDOOR OUTDOOR KIND OF A PLACE. THE GARDENS IN THE COURTYARD ARE FUNCTIONAL GARDENS.NE OF THEM IS EIGHT NATURE GARDEN THAT REPRESENTS THE NATIVE LANDSCAPE OF THIS BEAUTIFUL SITE. THE SECOND ONE IS A LARGELY HARD SURFACE ACTIVITY COURTYARD FOR GATHERINGS AND FOR WEDDINGS AND FOR LARGE GROUPS AND PARTIES OR WHATEVER. THEN THE THIRD ONE IN THE SCOPE IS AS WE ARE CALLING AN ORCHARD OR A COULD BE FRUIT TREE OR GARDEN. THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY TO ACTUALLY YOU KNOW, HARVEST PLANT MATERIAL IN THE FOURTH ACTUALLY, WHICH IS NOT PART OF THE SCOPE COULD EASILY BE ROLLED IN IS THE VICTORY GARDEN, OR COMMUNITY GROUPS GARDEN CLUBS AND WHATEVER COULD UNDERTAKE PLANTING PROJECTS. THE FOREGROUND, YOU SEE THE TWO BUILDINGS THAT ARE KNOWN TO WINGS IN BETWEEN. THE GOINGS OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING. THESE ARE NEW CONSTRUCTION FOR ADMINISTRATION SPACES. NEXT SLIDE? NEXT SLIDE PLEASE? ANOTHER VIEW OF THE AERIAL FROM THE NORTH LOOKING BACK. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE? FAIRLY QUICKLY HERE. NOW, LOOKING FOR THE NORTH AGAIN. HE COULD SEE THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE SERPENTINE PEDESTRIAN [03:30:01] CONNECTION THAT LINKS EACH OF THESE WINGS WITH THE SHADED LOW CHECK. VERY SORT OF A BEAUTIFUL OUTDOOR PATH CONNECTING ALL OF THOSE SPACES. NEXT? OKAY, LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN. WE ARE WE ARE ADDING PARKING. BUT YOU KNOW? MAYBE 25 PERCENT ADDITIONAL PARKING TO THE EXISTING SPACES. PRETTY MUCH TAKING UP THE BALANCE OF THE READILY AVAILABLE QUAINT THAT WE CAN GENERATE FOR PARKING. NEXT SLIDE? A DRAWING SHOWING THE SITE PLAN IS KIND OF THE SAME THING AS THE RENDERING. NEXT PLEASE? LOOKING AT THE DEPARTMENTS THAT KIND OF TEAL COLOR IS THE DISTANCE THE MEETING ROOMS THAT ARE IN EACH OF THE WINGS. THEY ALL OUT CROSS VENTILATION PIT THEY ALL HAVE A LOT OF NATURAL DAYLIGHT. THE EACH OPEN INTO ONE OF THE FUNCTIONAL GARDENS AND COURTYARDS. THAT KIND OF MAGENTA OR PURPLE SPACE UP AT THE NORTH CORNER. IS A JUVENILE PROBATION OFFICE. AND THEN THE AREAS JUST BELOW THAT ARE THE ADMINISTRATION AND WIC AND I THINK THAT IS MAINLY IT. AND THEN DOWN AND WHITE THE DEVELOPER WINGS THAT ARE LEFT FOR FUTURE SCOPE. NEXT SLIDE? SAME DRAWING NOW. JUST SHOWING THE DIFFERENT SPACES AND A LITTLE MORE DETAIL. WE CAN WAS GO BACK AND ZOOM IN IF YOU WANT TO. LOOK AT THAT ANYWHERE CLOSELY. I'LL TRY TO RESPECT YOUR TIME BY MOVING QUICKLY. NEXT? AND ZOOM IN AREA OF THE DARK SHADED AREA IS ONE WING OF THE MEETING ROOMS. THE LARGER MEETING ROOMS ON THIS NORTH WING. AND THEN TO THE RIGHT IS THE ADMINISTRATION AREA. NEXT SLIDE? AND NOW, LITTLE BIT BELOW THAT IS THE SECOND WING THAT ACTUALLY ÃÃTHIS IS ON THE WEST SIDE. NEAR THE WHAT WE ARE CALLING THE ACTIVITY COURTYARD. WHICH IS THE KIND OF SHADED AREA RIGHT BELOW THAT WING. THAT IS AN OUTDOOR SPACE THAT IS MAINLY HARD SURFACE FOR OUTDOOR EVENTS.E'VE ADDED PUBLIC RESTROOMS TO THE LEFT THERE AND THEN ALSO PUBLIC RESTROOMS IN THE ADMINISTRATION AREA. NEXT PLEASE?ND FINALLY, THIS IS THE REMAKE BLOWUP OF THE FLOOR PLAN. SHOWING THE THIRD WINK THAT HAS ALSO HAS MEETING ROOMS AND THE AREA TO THE LOWER RATE OF THIS FEW IS THE WIC PROGRAM. STILL THE SERIES OF REST RENDERINGS NEXT. YES. THIS IS THE APPROACH AS YOU COME OFF OF LEOPARD. YOU SEE THE NORTH WING THERE. IN THE DISTANCE. IT HAS A COMBINATION OF THE TERRA-COTTA RAIN SCREEN, WHICH IS A THIN LARGE-SCALE TERRA-COTTA TILE. IT'S VERY ELEGANT AND DURABLE MATERIAL. TO THE RIGHT, A GLASS FAC'ADE. IF THE MEETING ROOMS. THIS IS A LITTLE CLOSER. THIS SHOWS THE MAIN ENTRANCE. WE ADDED THESE BULLIES BETWEEN THE WINGS TO PROVIDE PERIMETER SECURITY.S YOU RECALL, YOU'D MANY, MANY WAYS THAT YOU CAN ENTER HILLTOP AND SECURE THE BUILDING BECAUSE OF ALL THE OPEN. SO, WE'VE CREATED A KIND OF A BOUNDARY AS A SORT OF A PERIMETER SECURITY AND THIS MAIN ENTRANCE IS THE PUBLIC ENTRANCE POINT THE BUILDINGS AND PUBLIC COURTYARDS. SAME BASIC VIEW, BUT LOOKING STRAIGHT ON SQUARE FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST AND NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN CLOSER IN. AS THEY ENTER THE BUILDING. THE ROOF OF THE NEWS STRUCTURES IS A WOOD TIMBER HEAVY TIMBER DECKING. THE CARBON CAPTURE BENEFIT. THE CARBON CONTENT AND HEAVY TIMBER. IT IS A SEQUESTERS CARBON. SO, TIMBER STRUCTURES ARE BENEFICIAL FROM THE CARBON FOOTPRINT POINT OF VIEW AND THEY ARE ALSO BEAUTIFUL AND THEY ARE ALSO DURABLE AND THEY ARE ALSO CORROSION RESISTANT. THERE ARE MANY GOOD REASONS FOR USING TIMBER DECKING. AND WE THINK IT'S A VERY NICE COUNTERPOINT TO THE CONCRETE DECKING OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURES. NEXT PLEASE? AND THEN FROM ONTO THE COURTYARDS ÃÃLOOKING AT SOME OF THE MEETING ROOMS, WE'VE GOT THE GLASS FRONT THAT IS A COMBINATION OF LARGE FIXED PAIN AND PICTURED WINDOWS AND WINDOWS ACROSS THE TOP EDGE OF THAT CLASS THAT ARE OPERABLY VENTILATED BY MOTORIZED ACTIVATION OF THE MECHANICAL [03:35:03] SYSTEMS.ASED UPON THE SETTINGS PER THE OUTDOOR TEMPERATURES. SO THAT THIS BUILDING, AS YOU RECALL FROM OUR PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS TO INTO THE ENVIRONMENT. IT IS A BUILDING THAT CAN AUTOMATICALLY OPEN ITSELF UP TO A BEAUTIFUL DAY OUTSIDE WITHOUT HAVING TO SEND A MAINTENANCE PERSON AROUND AND OPEN AND CLOSE AND SO FORTH.T IS VERY SORT OF AVANT-GARDE IN THE SENSE THAT IT IS SORT OF GOING BACK TO THE WAY THINGS WERE WHEN I WAS YOUNG. AND NOT EVERYBODY HAD AIR CONDITIONING AND WE ALL ACTUALLY GOT ALONG JUST FINE. WITHOUT OF ALL THE SORT OF HASSLE AND MAINTENANCE ASSOCIATED WITH TRYING TO OPERATE WINDOWS. NEXT PLEASE. A PATHWAY THAT CONNECTS ALL BUILDINGS TOGETHER. IT'S SORT OF ÃÃIT'S A LINKAGE BETWEEN THE GARDENS AND THE MAIN PATHWAY TO THE VARIOUS MEETING ROOMS. IT ALSO HAS A TEMPERED DECKING. HEAVY TIMBER DECKING FOR CARBON BENEFIT AND IT'S ALSO AGAIN, A BEAUTIFUL STRUCTURE AND IN THIS CASE ACTUALLY, A RATHER ECONOMICAL WAY TO TAKE THAT SERPENTINE SHAPE AND CREATE A SUBSTANTIAL DECK THAT WILL SPAN FROM THE RIGID STEEL BEAMS TO ONE FROM THE OTHER. CLOSED CAPTIONS WILL RETURN. >> TWO SECTIONS TO THE EXISTING BUILDING. THIS SHOWS THE POP-UP ROOF AREA THAT IS NEW THAT HOUSES THE NEW SOLAR PANELS AND ALSO DISTRIBUTES SOME AIR-CONDITIONING FROM SPACE TO SPACE. PRIMARILY THE AIR-CONDITIONING THAT GOES BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS LIKE THIS OVER THE TOP OF WHAT WAS THE ROOF AND THIS LITTLE ATTIC SPACE IS TO BRING FRESH AIR TO EACH OF THE MEETING ROOMS. ONE IS AN A FULL AIR-CONDITIONED MODE. THESE ROOMS HAVE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT OPERATIONAL MODES DEPENDING ON WHAT THE TEMPERATURE IS LIKE OUTDOORS AND OUTSIDE AIR IS REQUIRED. AND SO, WE ARE USING DATA AND ADDING SPACE TO BRING FRESH AIR INTO THE BUILDING. THIS IS REALLY GOING TO BE A VERY HEALTH AND WELLNESS ORIENTED FACILITY. FOR A LOT OF REASONS. PARTLY BECAUSE OF ITS RELATIONSHIP TO OUTDOORS AND PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF FRESH AIR THAT IS BROUGHT TO THE BUILDINGS AND IN THE POST COVID WORLD, WE ARE ALL SENSITIVE TO THAT. AND THIS WILL BE A PUBLIC WHERE WHERE PEOPLE WILL BE IN A VERY FRESH AIR ENVIRONMENT. NEXT SLIDE? ONE MORE BUILDING SECTION 21 OF THE LARGER MEETING ROOMS THAT IS CLOSE TO THE ACTIVITY GARDEN. YOU GET A LITTLE BIT OF A SENSE OF THE SCALE OF THE ROOM THAT YOU ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING THROUGH INTO. NEXT PLEASE? AND A SECTION THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATION AREA. CUT THROUGH SERIES OF OFFICES LOOKING TOWARDS THE COURTYARD. ONE MORE. ND THIS IS FINALLY, I THINK THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE BESIDES THIS ONE. THE SERPENTINE WALK ÃÃAS ITS [03:40:01] FOUNDATION HAS A COVERT, WHICH IS REALLY A RAINWATER RETENTION SYSTEM AND BASIN. THIS STRUCTURE BENEATH THE WALK DOES MULTIPLE DUTY. ONE PROVIDES THE FOUNDATION AND IS THE FOUNDATION FOR THE WALK AND CANOPY AND THE WALK. THE SECOND IT IS A RENT COLLECTION AND CONVEYANCE DEVICES.IKE THE WAY WE GET THE RAIN OFF THE ROOF INSIGHT INTO THE RECORDS AND THEN INTO THIS COVERT. AND THEN THE COVERT BOTH RETAINS WATER FOR IRRIGATION, SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF AND AND AND EXCEEDS THE CAPACITY OF THAT DISCHARGE DOWNHILL IN A NORMAL FASHION. IT IS BOTH A DRAINAGE DEVICE AND A RETENTION DEVICE. RAINWATER COLLECTION DEVICE. SO, IT IS QUITE VERSATILE. IT UTILIZES THE SOMETIMES SCARCE ASSET OF WATER. NEXT SLIDE. ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS I WANT TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY AT TARGET. WHEN WE WERE IN FRONT OF YOU LAST TIME AND WE DO REDUCE OUR SCOPE TO THE THREE WINGS AND THE ENTIRE BUILDING, I CAN GET THE CONSTRUCTION COST TO ABOUT 10 MILLION. PREVIOUSLY ABOUT 14 MILLION. AND WE HAVE NOT QUITE GOTTEN THERE YET APART FROM A NUMBER OF REASONS. PROBABLY THE AGGRESSIVE INFLATION THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY AND JUST THE LAST FEW MONTHS THAT HAVE BEEN IN DOUBLE DIGITS AND SO, AT SOME OF OUR HOPEFUL SAVINGS WERE RUINED BY THAT. THE OTHER FACTOR IS THAT SOME OF THE COMPLEXITIES OF THE BUILDING ARE DIFFICULT TO ESTIMATE IN EARLY STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THEY ARE A BIT UNIQUE. AND SO OUR SOLICITATION OF PRICING IN THE MARKETING AND HAVING PEOPLE LOOK AT IT SOMETIMES WE THINK THEY WOULD GET NUMBERS BACK TO OUR DULY CONSERVATIVE. THAT WE WILL NOT ULTIMATELY KNOW THE FINAL NUMBERS UNTIL WE GET FINAL BIDS. THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DESIGN CONTINGENCIES THAT WE PUT ON TOP BECAUSE WE ARE IN AN INFLATIONARY PERIOD RETINA. BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE THINK THAT THE OUR BEST ESTIMATE ON THE CONSTRUCTION IS ABOUT 12 AND HALF-MILLION. AND THEN WE HAVE ROUGHLY $2 MILLION OF ADDITIONAL AND PROFESSIONAL FEES AT GEOTECH SERVICE AND THE OTHER GENERAL EXPENSES THAT ARE APART FROM CONSTRUCTION WHICH BRINGS THE TOTAL COST TO A LITTLE OVER 14 AND HALF-MILLION. WHICH IS KIND OF BACK WHERE WE WERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.UT IT'S SORT OF THE TIMES THAT WE ARE LIVING IN RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, WE CONTINUE TO AGGRESSIVELY LOOK FOR WAYS TO SAVE MONEY. WOULD WE PRICE THIS, WOULD WE BID IT? WE WILL BID THE SOLAR PANELS AS A BETTER OPTION. WE WILL HAVE SORT OF A PLUG-IN ASPECT OF THE PROJECT. IF WE HAVE TO TAKE SOMETHING OUT AND EDIT LATER, WE CAN. O, WE CONTINUE TO BE VERY COST-CONSCIOUS. WE FEEL LIKE WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE WE ARE FUNCTIONALLY IT IS DIFFICULT TO REDUCE IT A LOT MORE WITHOUT COMPROMISING IT. ITS FUNCTION AND VALUE AND ITS POTENTIAL. ITS ULTIMATE POTENTIAL.O, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. WE ARE AT 50 PERCENT DESIGN DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE OUR OFFICIAL AUTHORIZATION TO PROCEED THROUGH DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.IF I REMEMBER THE PREVIOUS ACTIONS OF THE COURT. BUT BECAUSE WE ÃÃBECAUSE WE ARE STILL NOT QUITE AT THE TARGET AS WE WERE HOPING FOR, WE WANTED TO COME BACK AND REPORT TO YOU. >> OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, OF COURSE, I'VE SEEN IT. BUT IT IS MORE BEAUTIFUL EVERY TIME I SEE IT. IT'S JUST AN INCREDIBLE ARCHITECTURE. AND DESIGN. >> JUDGE: IN A BOTH A SUSTAINABLE AND I JUST DON'T THINK ANYTHING JUSTICE WILL HAVE ANYTHING LIKE IN THE COUNTY. SO. >> WHAT'S HER TOTAL ALLOCATION ON THIS SO FAR? WHAT DID WE DECIDE? >> 6 MILLION COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. 6 MILLION. >> JUDGE: IF SOMEBODY WOULD MUTE. I THINK WE FORGOT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO ME. OKAY, GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER GONZALES. YOU ARE SAYING. >> THIS IS SOMETHING I THINK COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ JUSTICE YOU TALK ABOUT AT ONE TIME. WHAT IS IT NOW WITH THE WARRANTY. WE CAN DO AND SECTIONS. WE DO HALF OF WHAT YOU CAN DO COME UP WITH 5 MILLION AND 6 MILLION AND THEN FOLLOWING YEAR TWO YEARS YOU CAN DO TOGETHER. [03:45:03] WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IN PART TO USE THE MOST ÃÃYOU CAN ACTUALLY GET MORE USE OF IT, RIGHT? THAT'S CAN BE A COUPLE OF YOUR COMPANY ROOMS AND MEETING ROOMS AND ADMINISTRATION. >> I THINK THAT'S A REALLY INTERESTING IDEA. I APPRECIATE THAT COMMISSIONER. ÃÃWE HAVE NOT LOOKED AT INCREMENTALLY FACING THE WORK ON A SMALLER SCALE LIKE USE SAID. IF I UNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION CORRECT. ONE WING AT A TIME AND THEN SPENT THE MONEY AS YOU HAD IT. >> NOT ONE ONLY, BUT YOU GOT 6 MILLION. >> IT COULD BE. ABSOLUTELY. WHATEVER YOU CAN DO. YES. IT COULD BE ÃÃTHE CHALLENGE OF IT ÃÃCOSTS THAT TRANSCEND THE VARIOUS BUILDINGS. SO, IF YOU WANT ÃÃTHERE IS A POINT IN WHICH YOU HAVE TO PUT THE BASICS FOR THE WHOLE THING. LIKE THE ELECTRICAL SERVICE FOR EXAMPLE. IF THE PUT IN THE ELECTRICAL SERVICE FOR THE WHOLE THING AND THEN CERTAIN OTHER ASSETS. WHAT I THINK YOU SUGGEST AS POSSIBLE. BUT THERE ARE CHALLENGES WITH THAT. WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AS WE GO FORWARD AS A POTENTIAL STRATEGY.> AND IN FOLLOWING THAT LINE OF THOUGHT ÃÃIF YOU COULD COME UP WITH A NUMBER THAT WOULD GET US TO THAT POINT ÃÃTHAT CAN BE HELPFUL. FOR INSTANCE ÃÃIF THE NUMBER WAS 8 MILLION. RIGHT? RIGHT? THIS COURT COULD MAKE A DECISION TO PUT LET'S SAY $2 MILLION OF ARPA TOWARDS THAT PROJECT AND AT LEAST YOU KNOW WHEN ONE AND WING TO COULD BE DEVELOPED OR IN OTHER WORDS, WE WOULD HAVE TO KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS IN ORDER TO REACH THE ECONOMY SCALES BACK TO THAT ON THE ELECTRICAL AND SOME OF THE MEP STUFF. AND THAT MIGHT OPEN THE DOOR TO GRANTS.ND THE HARD PART IS THAT WE ARE CERTAINLY JUST AS WE ARE CERTAINLY QUALIFYING UNDER THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECTS. BUT I HAVE A LIST OF EVERY SINGLE GRANT THAT IS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW THAT HAS GOT A NO FOE. AND I LOOKED HER OVER TO ONE OF THEM LOOKING FOR HILLCREST. AND IT'S TOUGH. THAT DOESN'T MEAN ÃÃTHEY'RE GONNA START LEASING NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP DOING THIS. BUT THE ONE THAT I DID FIND IS DEFINITELY FOR CLEAN ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE. AND SO, WHAT I GUESS I'M SAYING TO YOU IS THAT IF WE CAN GET TO THE POINT THAT WE'VE GOT OUT OUR PEACE ÃÃMAYBE WE COULD APPLY FOR THE CLEAN ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE YOU KNOW? I MEAN, THERE IS ÃÃI'M TRYING TO FIND A PATHWAY. DO YOU NEED TO NOTE THE NUMBERS? >> TO TURN CLEAN ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE IS VERY INTERESTING. IN ONE SENSE, IT IMPLIES GENERATION.IKE ON THE PROTECTION SIDE. CLEAN ENERGY PRODUCTION LIKE PLANTS OR WINDFARMS OR WHATEVER. A VERY BIG PART OF THE CLEAN ENERGY FUTURE AND A GREEN ENERGY FUTURE IS KIND OF MICRO-DISPERSED GENERATIONS MEANING ON-SITE RENEWABLES.T THIS AS A SIGNIFICANT SITE OF RENEWABLES. IT HAS ITS OWN CLEAN ENERGY FOR STRUCTURE BUILT IN.ND THEY MAY NOT BE THEIR INTENT, BUT ACTUALLY IS A REALLY GOOD WAY TO GET TO THE FUTURE. SO. >> I THINK IT'S INTERESTING AND FOR COMMISSIONER HAND IT HERNANDEZ JUSTICE I WILL SEND THIS HAS WHITE. BUT, IN MY SCOURING HAVE TO HELP HILLCREST ÃÃTHE INFRASTRUCTURE AND JOBS ACTS à ÃI'M SORRY.ILLTOPS. FUNNY, WE JUST LEFT THE TEXT DOCS. I GOT HILLCREST ON THE MIND. HOPE YOU'RE RIGHT. HELD TOP. ITEM NUMBER ONE IS THE ONLY ONE I THINK THAT COULD WORK. THIS IS THE ONLY READS AS FOLLOWS. TARGETED AREAS OF HISTORIC INVESTMENT TO MODERNIZE ENERGY AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND SUPPORT PARTICIPATION AND WELL-BEING. NOW DON'T GET ME WRONG.NERGY INFRASTRUCTURE CAN MEAN THE GRID. >> SURE. >> I NEED AN EXPERT. THIS BILL AND THE SUPERSTRUCTURE BUILT IS WAY BEYOND WHAT WE NEED PEOPLE WHO CAN SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON IT. BUT MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN FIND SOMETHING IN THIS INFRASTRUCTURE BILL THAT WILL BE PERFECT FOR SOME OF THE ENERGY CONCEPTS THAT YOU HAVE GOT. WE JUST NEED TO HONESTLY, WE NEEDN'T EXPERT. I'M HOPING WE CAN GET ONE HERE VERY SOON. BUT IF YOU CAN GET WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ SUGGESTS, THIS COURT COULD FIND A WAY TO PROCEED. WE ARE SEEING SOME REALITIES AND THAT MIGHT BIAS THE TIME THAT WE NEED. >> AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SCALED THE PROJECT TO WHAT WE ARE NOW SHOWING AS PHASE 1. WHICH IS [03:50:04] REALLY PROBLEMATICALLY THE COMPLETE BUILDING. IT IS FULLY FUNCTIONING COMMUNITY CENTER. AND SO, OF COURSE IT IS STILL OVER THE BUDGET THAT WE WOULD HOPE FOR. F WE DO TAKE A STEP BACK AND SAY OKAY, LET'S NOT BILLED 100 PERCENT OF THE PROGRAM, BUT NOT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND TO MAKE A FUNCTIONAL BUILDING Ãà THAT IS ONE STEP FURTHER DOWN AND I THINK IT'S THEORETICALLY POSSIBLE AND WE WILL STUDY THAT. >> MR. RICHTER? >> YES SIR. >> MY ATTENTION WAS AS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ROOF, THE ENVIRONMENTAL AIRFLOW. I WOULD THINK THAT MAYBE THAT WOULD QUALIFY UNDER ARPA. I DON'T KNOW IF IT DOES IF IT DOESN'T JUDGE. I WOULD THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING TO LOOK AT AND POSSIBLY SOME MONIES THERE. I THINK OUR PRICE FOR ENVIRONMENTAL IS IT? >> WELL, IT IS ÃÃCOULD. >> IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE NATURAL AIRFLOW. >> I THINK THAT WE SHOULD THAT IT. I THINK WE SHOULD SEND IT TO THEM AND SAY HEY, HOW DO YOU THINK ÃÃI WAS THINKING THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL, WHICH IS DEFINITELY MORE FOCUSED ON CLEAN ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE. ARPA DEFINITELY ÃTHIS FOR ALL THE WATER AND WASTEWATER ÃJUST LIKE THE CISTERN ÃÃALL THOSE THINGS WOULD QUALIFY UNDER ARPA. >> THAT CALL THAT YOU TALKING ABOUT. >> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA COMMISSIONER. THINK IF WE ARE CUTE MR. RICHTER ON THIS ONE ÃÃBECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE THE ISSUE à THIS RIGHT? EXCEPT IF WE ARE CUTE HIM, WE SHOULD PUT ARPA FUNDS IN THEIR WITH PROCUREMENT METHOD.HICH WE MIGHT NORMALLY ATTEMPT. IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA TO BE ABLE TO PUT THAT ADDITION WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THAT ARPA AND I KNOW WE DID NOT BACK TO IT.O, YOU MAY WANT TO PUT ÃTHIS. >> FOR SOME MORE COMMISSIONER. IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT PUTTING MORE TOWARDS THIS GETTING CLOSER ÃÃI THINK AGAIN, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THAT ORIGINAL TIME I WAS OUT THERE. DAVID TOLD ME OH, WE COULD DO THIS FOR 10 MILLION. I'M GONNA HOLD HIM TO. ANOTHER WAS. LIKE ALL THIS OTHER STUFF. THE POINT IS IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT BACK ON AND LOOK TO SEE à THIS BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE SOME ALLOCATED ARPA FUNDS. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE PROCUREMENT ÃÃMAKE SURE WE ARE OKAY AND FOLLOW ALL THOSE RULES. YES, YOU ARE RIGHT. THAT DOES QUALIFY. >> AT LEAST A PART OF IT DOES. >> IF WE CAN GET ANOTHER AMOUNT TOWARDS IT. >> IN THE 2 MILLION WOULD BE GREAT. >> WE COULD GET CLOSER TO THAT NUMBER THAT DAVID TOLD ME HE COULD DO IT FOR. YOU KNOW? MY MEMORY IS NOT SURE ON THAT ONE DAVID. >> AT THIS POINT THE PROCESS. >> INFLATION. >> ALWAYS SOMETHING IS IT? >> SORRY JENNY, GO AHEAD. >> AT THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS ÃÃSINCE MR. RICHTER CAME ON BEFORE ARPA MONIES AND ANTICIPATED ÃÃWE HAVE TO THAT WHETHER HIS PROCUREMENT PROCESS FULFILLED. >> JUST WITH EVERY ARPA DOLLAR THAT WE THROW IN, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE RIGHT. THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE ÃÃYES. I THINK IT QUALIFIES. I THINK SO TOO. >> WE JUST MIGHT HAVE TO. >> WANT YOU GO AHEAD AND CONTACT ÃÃI THINK THE GROUP IS ALREADY LOOKED AT IT PRELIMINARILY. JUST NOT IN DEPTH. SEVEN NOW YOU CAN MAKE THAT PHONE CALL AND START LOOKING AT WHICH PIECES WILL FALL. >> WITH MR. RICHTER'S HELP, WE WILL GET IT DONE. >> I THINK COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ'S IDEAS WERE PRETTY INSIGHTFUL AND I THINK WE CAN TRY TO BUILD ON THAT AND TAKE IT BACK ONE STEP AND TRY TO BRING THE BASE COST DOWN. LICKING ON THE FLY HERE ÃÃI THINK TAKING ONE OF THE WINGS OF THE EXISTING WINGS AND THE PORTION OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT IS IN THE BACK I THINK AS INCREMENTAL PHASE GO AHEAD AND DESIGN AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. BUT BID THE ENTIRE WING AS AN ALTERNATE ÃÃI THINK WE COULD FIND OURSELVES IN A FAVORABLE POSITION. I THINK WE HAVE CRITICAL MASS IN ENOUGH MONEY AND ALSO WHAT POSES US TO ADD IT BACK QUICKLY AND SEAMLESSLY. THAT IS WHAT YOU LOOK FOR IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS. WE WILL GO BACK AND WE WILL STUDY THAT. >> IT DOES NOT PRECLUDE. THERE HAVE BEEN MANY WONDERFUL PROJECTS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE HAD PRIVATE FOUNDATIONAL SUPPORT. ONCE YOU START MAKING THAT MOVE TO ÃTISSUE FULL DESIGN AND FULL INFRASTRUCTURE. YOU COULD SEE A POTENTIAL INDUSTRIAL YOU KNOW, PRIVATE GROUP COME IN AND SAY HEY, I AM RIGHT. [03:55:02] THIS BENEFITS THE NEIGHBORHOOD RATE ON OUR BANKS. THAT CAN OPEN THE DOOR TO A LOT OF GREAT THINGS TO COMPLETE THAT PROJECT. >> THANK YOU. THIS IS VERY HELPFUL FEEDBACK FROM THE COURT. >> THANK YOU DAVID. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> WE'VE GOT A ÃTHIS A REQUEST TO MOVE TO NUMBER 11 AND [11. Discuss and consider use of American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds to support Agape Ranch.] INSTEAD OF 10. I THINK I WILL DO 11 OUT OF ORDER AND THEN GO RIGHT BACK TO 10. JJ, IF THAT IS ALL RIGHT WITH YOU. AND THAT IS THE ITEM NUMBER 11. TO DISCUSS THEIR RESCUE ACT FUNDS TO SUPPORT AGAPE RANCH. AND WE DO HAVE SOMEBODY HERE WITH US TO HELP AS A RESOURCE IN CASE WE NEED. >> JUDGE IS THIS COULD BE ONE YEAR. >> YES SIR. >> IT IS. >> I THOUGHT I WOULD SET THE TONE LITTLE BIT BY ASKING MARY, WHO IS BEEN VERY ÃÃIT DOES NOT MATTER. GO AHEAD. MELISSA, SORRY. SORRY MELISSA. IF YOU JUST WANT TO KEEP BRIEFING THE COURT AND REMIND THEM WITH THE RICH AND AGAIN, I WANT YOU TO FOCUS RIGHT WHEN YOU TRANSITION TO YOUR MISSION AND PURPOSE. SOME OF THE DOLLARS THAT YOU ARE NEEDING FOR HOUSING AND HOW THAT REALLY WOULD IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH JUDGE CANALIS AND COMMISSIONERS FOR HEARING ME A LITTLE BIT HELLO. MINIMUS MELISSA FOX AND THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS OVER AND AGAPE RANCH SEEMS SEES SOME FAMILIAR FACES THAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT US. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. >> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PLACE TO STAY COULD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SIMPLE REQUEST THAT MANY OF US HAVE NEVER HAD THE NEED TO CONSIDER. 60 PERCENT OF THE CHILDREN THAT COME INTO FOSTER CARE IN OUR AREA WILL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT TONIGHT. THE OFTEN TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE OF BEING REMOVED FROM THE ONLY HOME THAT THEY HAVE EVER KNOWN WILL BE FURTHER COMPOUNDED AS THEY ARE PLACED OUTSIDE OF OUR AREA. DUE TO LACK OF AVAILABLE FOSTER HOMES. WHAT HAPPENS NEXT IS THAT CHILDREN ARE NOW SEPARATED FROM THEIR SIBLINGS. THEY GET ENROLLED IN AN UNFAMILIAR SCHOOL AND THEY ARE FURTHER DISTANCE BETWEEN THEIR BIOLOGICAL PARENTS THAT ARE TRYING TO REUNIFY WITH THEM. THEY SEEK TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM WITH THE 24 HOME COMMUNITY .1 MILE NORTH OF LONDON ISD. THIS COMMUNITY, UPON COLD POLLUTION WILL PROVIDE MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL SUPPORT. ACADEMIC TUTORING, COUNSELING AND THERAPEUTIC SERVICES AND CERTIFIED RESPITE PROVIDERS. THE COMMUNITY WILL STRENGTHEN AND EQUIP FOSTER COMMUNITIES AS THEY HEAL FROM THE TRAUMA THAT THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED. THEY WILL ALSO COMBINE OUTBREAKS AMONG FOSTER FAMILIES. THESE FAMILIES ARE CRITICAL. THE UNDERNEATH UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF THE CHILDREN AND THE TRAUMA THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED. THE BREATH OF RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM. AS THE ADOPTIVE MOM MYSELF THIS DISH CLUSTERING IS ONE OF THE MOST REWARDING EXPERIENCES OF MY LIFE. BUT IT HAS ALSO BEEN THE MOST DIFFICULT. AND THE ONLY THING THAT ALLOWED ME AND MY HUSBAND TO PERSEVERE IS KNOWING THAT WE HAD SUPPORT. HIS WILL BE A DAILY REALITY AT THE RANCH. BUT COVID. SO, COVID HAS SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASED ABILITY TO DEVELOP AT THE RANCH PRINT WE HAVE 11 DONATED ACRES PRINT WE HAVE BROKEN GROUND AND HAVE ABOUT 90 PERCENT COMPLETION ON OUR FIRST HOME AND ARE AWAITING CITY APPROVALS. AND THEN I'M SO GLAD THAT MR. RICHTER BUT BEFORE ME BECAUSE HE OBVIOUSLY COVERED THE INCREASING COST FOR CONSTRUCTION AND OTHER CONSIDERATIONS. ADDITIONALLY, WE BLANK LAND. THEY RECENTLY HAD CORN ON IT. WE HAVE TO DO ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL. THOSE PRICES HAVE ALSO INCREASED. SO, WE WENT FROM A STANDARD HOME ESTIMATING ABOUT $269,000 IN 2019 WHEN I CAME ON BOARD. RECENTLY THAT NUMBER HAS INCREASED OVER 400,000 TO BUILD ONE STANDARD HOME. THE CONSIDERATION YOU GUYS HAVE FOR US TODAY WOULD DRAMATICALLY CHANGE THE TRAJECTORY AND SPEED AT WHICH WE CAN RAISE AT THIS COMMUNITY AND SERVE FOSTER CHILDREN. THE END, WE DO HAVE SEVERAL PROGRAMS THAT WE SERVE FAMILIES THROUGH NOW. ONE BEING THE CARE PORTAL. WHICH IS THE IMPLEMENTING PARTNER, WE MEET THE NEEDS OF VULNERABLE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF USE ABANDONMENT AND NEGLECT. ONCE A CASE GETS CALLED IN Ãà IF THE FAMILY JUST NEEDS COMMUNITY SUPPORT. THEY JUST NEED HELP. WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT CHILDREN ARE PREVENTED FROM THE TRAUMATIC EXPENSE OF ENTERING FOSTER CARE AND WE DO THAT THROUGH COMMUNITY CHAMPIONS. [04:00:01] AND PARTNER CHURCHES. THEY FEEL THE NEED FOR A BED, SCHOOL SUPPLIES, A LAPTOP TO CONTINUE EDUCATION AND NEW THINGS AND THAT THAT FAMILY UNIT CAN BE PRESERVED. ALSO, WITH 90 PERCENT OF AGED OUT YOUTH FACING HOMELESSNESS, TRAFFIC, PROSTITUTION, EVEN DEATH AND INCARCERATION WITHIN THREE YEARS OF AGING OUT OF THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM. E CAN DO BETTER AND THE RANCH WILL HELP PROVIDE HOMES ALSO FOR AGE THAT YOUTH, WHO UNTIL THIS TIME, UNABLE TO REENTER THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM. BUT THROUGH THE RANCH ÃÃTHEY WILL BE. THEY NEED BASIC HELP. THEY HAVE A CHECKING ACCOUNT THAT HAD BY CAN'T I CAR. HAD ASSIGNED APPROPRIATE RENTAL RELEASE. OUR MENTORSHIP PROGRAM SUPPORTS THAT. HERE IN CLOSING, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR CONSIDERING US. FOR THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS. BECAUSE YOU WILL BE SUPPORTING VULNERABLE FOSTER CHILDREN RIGHT HERE AT HOME. >> THANK YOU MELISSA. >> QUESTIONS? >> JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS.N THE 90 PERCENT ON THE FIRST HOUSE.OW MANY CHILDREN IN EACH HOME SERVE?S IT æ >> THAT'S A FANTASTIC QUESTION. EACH HOME IS BUILT TO HAVE A HIGHER CAPACITY. CURRENTLY THE DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND PROTECTIVE SERVICES ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE SIX CHILDREN IN YOUR HOME BEFORE REACHING GROUP HOME STATUS. AND WE DO WANT TO PRESERVE IF YOU MISSED OUT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IF YOU MISSED OUT IN THE ENVIRONMENT.ACH HOME WILL BE ABLE TO HOUSE SIX CHILDREN IN COMBINATION OF FOSTER ADOPTIVE OR BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN. WHAT WE DO FIND IS THOSE EXPERIENCING FOSTER FAMILIES HAVE ASKED FOR GREATER CAPACITIES. THEY WOULD TAKE THE SIBLING GROUPS. THEY WOULD TAKE AN ADDITIONAL CHILD. THEY WOULD STRETCH.UT THE PARAMETERS OF THEIR EXISTING HOME DO NOT ALLOW FOR THAT. SO SEE OKAY AS ARCHITECTS THAT HELPED US DESIGN WITH HIGH-CAPACITY HOMES AND EXTRA LAUNDRY ROOMS. GREAT SIGHTLINES. THINGS LIKE THAT. >> AND SO, THE REASON I PLACE THIS ON THE AGENDA IS BECAUSE MY HOPE AND IN MY YOU KNOW, RESEARCH, WE ENTERED A TERRIBLE MOMENT IN THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM IN TEXAS. AND I WAS LOOKING FOR HOW WE COULD CREATE SOME MONUMENTAL CHANGE IN OUR OWN BACKYARD. THIS ONE CHECKS THAT MENTAL HEALTH BOX FOR ME. AS WELL AS OUR FOSTER CARE AND ARE HOMELESSNESS. AND QUITE FRANKLY, EVEN OUR HUMAN TRAFFICKING. BECAUSE OF VULNERABILITY IS SO HIGH IF THERE IS NOWHERE ELSE TO GO.AND IF THEY TURN OUT OF THE SYSTEM ÃÃTHIS IS THEIR LOCATION. >> MANY CHILDREN IN FOSTER CARE DO NOT KNOW THE LOVE OF A CARING ADULT. THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THEIR VALUE AND THEIR WORTH. SO, AT 18, WHEN THEY ARE LAUNCHED INTO ADULTHOOD Ãà THIS IS WHY WE HAVE THESE DIRE STATISTICS OF THE 90 PERCENT FALLING PREY. AS I REVIEWED THIS ACT, IT DEFINITELY TALKED ABOUT PREVENTING PROPERTY. SO, WE ARE HAPPY TO BE HELPING FROM MULTIPLE FRONTS THROUGH THE RANCH AND THROUGH THE EXISTING PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER. >> MELISSA, JUST SO YOU KNOW à ÃEACH ÃTHIS I DO BELIEVE IT TO BE ELIGIBLE ON MULTIPLE FRONTS. OF COURSE THE WORK BEGINS ONCE REMAKE THE ALLOCATION. BUT EACH COMMISSIONER HAS LOCATIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY MADE THEIR ALLOCATIONS. I'VE ONLY MADE A PORTION. AND SO ÃÃI'M CRINGING A LITTLE BECAUSE THAT 269 WAS SUCH A GOOD NUMBER FOR ME. AND I KNOW THE REALITIES OF THE 400. BUT I DID WANT TO OFFER UP Ãà THIS IS WHY PUT ON THE AGENDA. THE 269,000 BECAUSE THIS WAS A NUMBER THAT I HAD AND I WAS HOPING THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO MAYBE MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE. AND IF NOT ÃÃI AGAIN ÃÃTHAT IS WERE I WAS THINKING COMMISSIONERS. FROM MY ALLOCATION.F I DON'T KNOW A BETTER PLACE WHERE WE CAN PUT MONEY. WHERE LIVES ACTUALLY CHANGE. PERIOD. ONCE THE HOUSE GETS BUILT. I AM ASSUMING THAT YOU ARE 90 PERCENT HOME BEING DONE WILL BE COMPLETED. >> WE ARE WAITING FOR CITY APPROVAL. >> CITY APPROVALS. >> WE HAVE FUNDS IN PLACE. THAT IS ANOTHER THING IS WORTH MENTIONING. THROUGH 2020, THROW THE FUNDING WE HAVE RAISED ÃÃIT'S GOING TO SUPPORT HIGHER COSTS. BUT I WOULD LET YOU KNOW THAT THE FAUCET IS STILL OPEN. AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORTED OUR MISSION. OUR RANCH AND OUR PROGRAMS. IT'S TO BE UNDERSCORED BY YOUR ACTIONS TODAY OFFERING YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR VERY METRICS. WOULD REFLECT THE DONORS THAT COME EVERY DAY AND SAY AND I NEED TO DO SOMETHING. PLEASE POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. [04:05:01] THAT IS ONE OF THE BLESSINGS OF MY POSITION. I REALLY JUST GET TO HELP SOMEBODY LIVE OUT THERE CALLED TO DO.HAT THEY ARE MOVED TO DO. AND HOW THEY FEEL COMPASSION AMONG THOSE MOST VULNERABLE IN OUR COMMITTEE. THAT WOULD BE A REFLECTION OF JUSTICE WE GET DONATIONS FROM ALL OVER THE STATE. AND THE COUNTRY. SO, I WOULD JUST MAKE THAT MOTION TODAY TO SHARE THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS ALREADY SAID YES. >> JUDGE: IT'S JUST A BIG JOB. [LAUGHTER] > DOES SEE OKAY HAVE THE PLANS FOR THAT SECOND HOME? >> JUDGE: OR ARE YOU JUST KIND OF BLUEPRINTING THE HOME TO THE SECOND HOME? >> WITH THREE HOMES. >> WE HAVE A STANDARD CAPACITY HOME AND AGE OUT FOSTER HOME HOME. QUICKLY THE ELDERLY COTTAGE AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THIS BLUEPRINTS ESTABLISHED. WE ARE FINALIZING THE NEW NUMBERS. ON THOSE HOMES, WHICH IS WHY WE UNDERSTAND JUST THE SCALP NOW THAT WE ARE UP AGAINST. SO, EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE THOUGHT THAT WE HAD THREE OR FOUR HOMES READY TO BE BUILT ONCE THE CITY APPROVES AND NOW IT'S ÃÃTHE REALITY IS THAT WE NEED TO STRIKE THAT BACK A BIT. JUST BECAUSE OF PURE DEVELOPMENT AND INCREASED COSTS. >> UNDERSTOOD. >> JUDGE: WE CAN MAYBE REVISIT IT IF WE CANNOT GET OUT SUPPORT. COMMISSIONERS ÃÃMY WISH IS TO MOTION THAT FROM MY ART ALLOCATION THAT $269,000 BE GIVEN TO AGAPE RANCH AND I WOULD LOOK FOR A SECOND. AT THIS TIME. HANK YOU COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. AND NOT YOUR QUESTIONS FROM ALYSSA. AND I SHOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. ALL THIS IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING HI. >> I. >> OPPOSED TO THE SIGN. >> JUDGE, WOULD BE YOUR RECOMMENDATION WITH THE BEST WILL BE CAN FOLLOW UP ON YOUR OFFICE OR COMMISSIONERS? >> WHAT'S CAN HAPPEN NOW IS THAT WE WILL CONTACT YOU AND YOU CAN CONTACT US. AND THE PROCESS REALLY BEGINS. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT YOU SAID THE PREDICATE FOR A LOT OF GOOD THINGS TO HAPPEN. THE ELIGIBILITY COMES FROM THE FACT THAT AGAPE RANCH IS A 501(C)(3). AND THEN THERE'S A SORT OF SUB RECIPIENT QUALIFICATIONS. ALL OF WHICH YOU CHECKED OFF TODAY. AND OUR EXPERTS ARE ON LINE NEXT LISTENING. OF COURSE, THERE'S A LOT OF PAPERWORK AND JUSTIFICATION. AND THEN THERE WILL BE A CONTRACT THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED AS HE IS A SEPARATE RECIPIENT. HERE'S THE TRICKY PART. THIS IS WHY ESTIMATE THE BLUEPRINTS AND ALL THAT. WE WOULD WANT TO WORK WITH OUR TEAM TO MAKE SURE IT DOES DOLLARS ÃÃTHE CONSTRUCTION EVERYTHING HAS TO BE BID OUT COMPETITIVELY. WE HAVE TO USE FEDERAL PROCUREMENT. GUIDELINES AND AGAIN, WE WILL WORK WITH YOU AND AND MY BRAIN, I HAVE THE 269. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE 400. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. TO BE OUTSIDE FOUNDATIONAL GROUPS. >> JUDGE, MAYBE YOU SHOULD DO IT IS LIKE A MATCHING Ãà YOU'LL MATCH IT. MAYBE THEY COULD. >> THIS GOT TO BE AWAY. >> OF A GOOD MATCH. >> SPEAKING MILEAGE PER. >> THERE'S ALWAYS ÃÃI WANT YOU TO KNOW THE PROCESS STARTS TODAY. MY HEART IS VERY FULL. THIS HAS BEEN ON MY MIND FOR A LONG TIME. >> PLEASE DO NOT DISCOUNT THE NUMBER. >> AND MAY FALL SHORT OF THE NEW NUMBER. BUT IT WILL PUT US IN A NEW DIRECTION. AND THAT CATALYST WILL BRING MORE CHANGE. >> YOU DO NOT KNOW ME VERY MELT VERY WELL, I'M VERY TENACIOUS. ONE AT THE NUMBERS 400, I'M GOING TO FIND A WAY. I JUST NEED TO KNOW THAT TODAY FROM MY OWN ANALYSIS SO TO SPEAK WITH MY ART ALLOCATION TO 69. GRATEFUL TO THE COURT FOR THEIR SUPPORT AND TO WORK WITH YOU. >> JUST SO YOU KNOW TO, THERE WILL BE A PROCESS THAT THE COUNTY MANAGER WILL HAVE MOVING FORWARD. YOU ARE NOT PROHIBITED FROM APPLYING THERETO. SHE'S GONNA BRING THAT FORTH FOR ALL CHARITIES TO BE ABLE TO APPLY. >> CAN YOU BELOW BIT MORE EXPLANATION? TELL US ABOUT THE MILLION. >> THE ADDITIONAL MILLION DOLLARS FOR ALL CHARITIES TO APPLY FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER WAS CHARGED WITH COMING BACK ON A SPECIFIC SUGGESTED PLAN ON HOW WE DO THAT. AND EACH OF US ÃÃWHAT I WAS GONNA LOOK AT IS THE PROCESS TO DO THE SMALL AMOUNT THAT IS GOOD FOR CHARITIES TOO. KINDA PIGGYBACKING ON THAT. THERE WILL BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES IS MY POINT. JUST KIND OF KEEP YOUR EYES AND EARS OPEN AS HE SHOULD BE. I THINK THE LAST MEETING WILL CHARGE YOU TO HAVE A PROCESS IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS. >> A GHOST FAST. >> [LAUGHTER] >> THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY. [4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.] >> THANK YOU. >> JUDGE: OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 10 AND JJ DELLA CERDA IS [04:10:01] HERE. >> DID YOU WANT TO ADVANCE SOMETHING ELSE? >> IS) I'M SORRY. >> YOU ARE RIGHT. I'M SORRY. JJ, YOU GOOD? WE GOT FOR I WAS. NOT SEEN ONE. P6. AT THIS TIME, LET ME READ THE MAGIC LINE WHICH SEPARATES US INTO THE OPPORTUNITY AND THEREFORE GIVE PUBLIC NOTICE AT THIS TIME THAT WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION DURING THE MEETING TO DISCUSS MATTERS LISTED ON THE AGENDA AS I'VE ALREADY POINTED OUT. IT'S ALSO LISTED AS ITEMS A THROUGH C. THESE ARE AUTHORIZED PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT CHAPTER 555551 IN THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. AND ALSO IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE. THE SECTIONS THAT ARE APPLICABLE ARE 551-1071. 72073074. 076, 07 AND 87. WE WILL HOLD AN EXECUTIVE CONCESSION TO CONSULT WITH ATTORNEYS IN MATTERS RELATING TO LITIGATION ON PROPERTY AND PERSONAL MATTERS AND TERMINATION, COUNTY ADVISORY BODIES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND NEGOTIATIONS AND >> ARTICLE BACK TO CLEAN UP ON THIS. WE'RE GONNA GO BACK IN THE RECORD AND THE TIME IS 3:40 PM. THERE ARE MATTERS THAT WERE CONSULTATION ONLY AND THEN THERE IS SOME ACTION THAT I THINK MIGHT BE TAKEN. AND IT IS IN REGARDS TO ITEM B ON THE EXECUTIVE. BUT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA Ãà IT WOULD BE NOTICED UNDER ITEM 16. AND THAT IS THE NOTICE OF COME ÃTHIS CLAIM AND SETTLEMENT COMMAND OF BRENDA. IS THERE AN ISSUE REGARDING THAT SETTLEMENT? >> I WILL LET YOU MAKE THAT ONE JUDGE. THERE IS A MOTION FOR $284 TO BE PAID TO MISS BRENDA KAREN YOKE. >> SECOND. >> THERE IS A SECOND AND IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION AT ALL OR ANY ACTION? OKAY, APPEARING THEN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE SETTLEMENT DEMAND BEING PAID OF $284 SIGNIFY BY SAYING EITHER. >> I. >> JUDGE: POST THE SAME SIGN. OKAY. AND THEN WITH REGARDS TO ITEM NUMBER 15 AND ALSO NOTICED THAT THIS BE NOTICED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. TO TAKE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IS ONE OF THE CAR, LET ME RESTATE. IT IS THE APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT DOCTOR RAY HERNANDEZ FOR SERVICES RELATED THE NUECES MEDICAL COUNTY CERT MEDICAL OFFICE. THERE IS A MOTION TO HAVE THE SECOND AGREEMENT BE AMENDED AS PRESENTED TO SIMPLY BE EXECUTED THROUGH DECEMBER 31 2022. AND ALSO HAD THE EXCLUSION OF ATTORNEYS FEES. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> JUDGE: ANY DISCUSSION? EARING ON, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. >> I. >> JUDGE: POST THE SAME SIGN. AND THEN OF COURSE ÃÃFINALLY ÃÃONE ITEM FOR A STATEMENT REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 14, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY? >> THANK YOU JUDGE. AFTER ADVICE ÃÃACTUALLY Ãà ADVICE AGAIN ÃTHIS BY COUNSEL. WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED REPEATEDLY THAT THE RELEASE THAT WAS ASSIGNED BY NUECES COUNTY AND DOCTOR SHANKER DOES NOT à THAT'S A REPEAT, DOES NOT RELEASE ANY CLAIMS OF OUTSIDE THE COURSE AND SCOPE OF HIS DUTIES AS MEDICAL EXAMINER. THANK YOU JUDGE. >> THANK YOU. >> JUDGE: I DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING ELSE WAS ACTIONABLE. THE REST WAS CONSULTATION ONLY. AT THIS POINT. AND SO, I WILL PUT US BACK INTO KIND OF OUR REGULAR ORDER, BUT I WILL DOUBLE CHECK WITH THE. >> JUDGE, EXCEEDS ME. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> JUDGE: I THINK WE ARE GOOD. [10. Discuss and consider funding veteran monument(s) with American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds, including providing funding to the non-profit Veterans Band.] AND AT THIS TIME, WE WILL KIND OF GO BACK INTO OUR REGULAR ORDER. AND I WILL CALL UPON ITEM NUMBER 10 AT THIS TIME AND THAT IS DISCUSSING AND CONSIDER FUNDING AND MONUMENTS WITH THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN AND ARPA ACTS. IN PUTTING FUNDING TO THE NONPROFIT VETERANS SPENT OF 501(C)(3) COURT AND TO GIVE US [04:15:01] A LITTLE BIT OF AN OUTLINE HERE. IS JJ, WHO HAS DONE SOME HOMEWORK ON THIS. AND ONCE AGAIN, JUST TO PREPARE THE COURT ÃÃTHIS IS AN ITEM FOR ARPA. OF COURSE, YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME TO JOIN ÃÃI PLACED THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE ALLOCATION THAT IS SPECIFIC TO THE COUNTY JUDGE. GO AHEAD JJ. >> YES. GOOD AFTERNOON JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. BEFORE YOU, WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM IN REGARDS TO THE VETERANS MONUMENTS. WE WOULD LIKE TO ERECT OVER BY THE VETERANS CEMETERY. WORLD WAR II, VIETNAM, IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, AND PERSIAN GULF. OF THE FOUR STATE VETERANS CEMETERIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS TESTED WE'RE NOT THE ONLY CEMETERY ÃÃTHE CEMETERY WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MONUMENTS BUT WE HAVE ONE MONUMENT AT THE CEMETERY AND THAT IS FOR THE ARMY GUARD. THAT IS IT. EXPANDING THIS AT THE CEMETERY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL OF OUR WAR ERA VETERANS, WHETHER LIVING OR DECEASED HAVE MONUMENTS AT THE CEMETERY. WE ARE ASKING FOR ROUGHLY $45,000 TO DO THE AT THE CEMETERY. WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO PURSUE A MONUMENT HERE AT THE FALLEN HEROES MEMORIAL. SINCE THE WAR IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN IS TECHNICALLY OVER ÃÃWE WOULD LIKE TO HONOR THOSE THAT SERVED IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN AND ON THE PERSIAN GULF. AND THOSE THAT FELL DURING BATTLE. SO, WE ARE ASKING FOR ABOUT $55,000 FOR THAT. WE DID COORDINATE AND TALK TO HAGGERTY AND THIS REGARD. THERE IS AN OPTION IN REGARDS TO ARPA FUNDING, WHICH IS EC2 à 2.34, THAT ALLOWS US TO PARTNER WITH THE VETERANS OF CORPUS CHRISTI WITH CHANGES IN NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. THE FACT THAT THEY WERE IMPACTED DURING COVID AND WERE NOT ABLE TO DO FUNDRAISERS AND HELP THE COMMUNITY DURING THAT TIMEFRAME. AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN EMBEDDED BY HAGGERTY AND I BELIEVE RACHEL WAS ON SHORTLY. I'M NOT SURE IF HE'S IF SHE'S ON. SHE IS ON. IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN THAT REGARD. AGAIN, I THINK IT IS TIME THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE ALL OF OUR WAR VETERANS AND WAR ERA VETERANS. NOT ONLY HERE AT THE FALLEN HEROES MEMORIAL, BUT THE VETERAN STATE CEMETERY, WHICH WE OVERSEE. ANY QUESTIONS? >> JUDGE: JUST REMIND EVERYBODY. WE DO HAVE A VIETNAM VETERANS MEMORIAL AT OUR FALLEN HEROES MEMORIAL. AND WE HAVE OUR GREAT CELEBRATION THAT WE HAVE COMMEMORATING THOSE THAT SERVED AND STILL WITH THE SPIRIT SO MANY OF THEM JOIN US AND THIS WOULD OPEN UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO CELEBRATE OUR IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN HEROES AS WELL. >> YES MA'AM. >> JUDGE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE INTERESTED OR NOT, BUT WE HAVE A NICE MONUMENT AND BISHOP ALSO. >> WORLD WAR I AND KOREA. AFGHANISTAN AND VIETNAM. IN THE SUN. >> YES SIR. I WILL SWING OVER THERE. >> IT WAS REALLY REALLY NICE. > YES SIR. >> PRINTED ON THE BACK BY JEFFREY. ALL HAND PRINTED BY THIS BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL. >> YES SIR, I CAN CERTAINLY ADD THAT ONE PER. >> JUDGE: IS THE PLAN TO PLACE THE MONUMENTS ACCORDING TO VETERANS LAND BOARD WISHES ON THE STAR?> YES MA'AM. >> JUDGE: YOU MIGHT WANT TO OUTLINE THE PIT. >> THOSE WHO HAVE NOT VISITED THE CEMETERY, RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF THE CEMETERY, YOU WILL SEE THE ASSEMBLY AREA PAID WHAT IS CALLED THE ASSEMBLY AREA. IT IS A STAR PATTERN AND ON EACH OF THOSE POINTS OF THE STAR THERE IS A GRASS AREA. ON THE GRASS AREA WOULD BE EACH MONUMENT. WE WOULD START WITH WHAT WERE TO AND IN BETWEEN SECTION 4 AND SECTION 3, KOREA, AND BETWEEN SECTION 2 AND SECTION 1, WE WOULD GO COUNTERCLOCKWISE. SO, THERE IS AN AREA. THERE IS LAND ALREADY DESIGNATED FOR THAT. THE VETERANS LAND BOARD AND YELLOWS ON BOARDING COMPLETELY ON BOARD TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. ALL WE NEED IS THE FUNDING TO DO SO. >> WHAT IS THAT SIR? >> [INDISCERNIBLE] >> UNFORTUNATELY NOT SIR. >> JUDGE: ALSO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BEING COMPREHENSIVE PRINT THERE IS ONE MORE PIECE OF IT AND THE DOLLARS THAT YOU HAVE SCOPED OUT WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO HONOR AND RECOGNIZE FORMER COMMISSIONER BETTY CHIEF MONGOLIA AS WELL. >> YES. THAT IS CORRECT. >> JUDGE: THERE WOULD BE ENOUGH DOLLARS IN THERE FOR THAT? >> [INDISCERNIBLE] >> JUDGE: SO, GO AHEAD JJ. >> YES. O, THE COST WITHIN THE ACTUAL SCOPE OF THE ARPA FUNDING WOULD [04:20:03] ALSO COVER A MONUMENT TO DO A MONUMENT FOR COMMISSIONER AND FORMER COMMISSIONER BETTY CHIEF MONGOLIA. AT THE VETERANS CEMETERY. >> CAN YOU DO THAT COMMISSIONERS COURT? >> JUDGE: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT MY ALLOCATION ÃÃMY MOTION IS TO BE APPROPRIATE THE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO COVER ALL OF THE MONUMENTS THAT JJ JUST OUTLINED. I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT BESIDES THE WORLD JUSTICE, INDIVIDUAL WARS THAT THERE WAS MONEY IN THERE AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TENDER OF THIS VETERANS CEMETERY WAS ALSO HONORED AS WELL. AND THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE VETERANS LAND BOARD. >> HAVE BEEN SAYING ÃI'M NOT SAYING IT NEGATIVELY BUT WE HAVE TO PROVE THROUGH THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO MAKE HAPPEN. WE NEED TO DO THE RIGHT WAY. >> UNDERSTOOD SIR. >> IT'S A GREAT IDEA. >> I MEAN, SHE WAS ABSOLUTELY STANDING IN HER EFFORTS. I JUST WANT TO CALL OUT ANYBODY WHO WAS ALSO INVOLVED IN THOSE EFFORTS. >> JUDGE: I THINK ALL THAT DETAIL, JJ, WOULD MAKE SURE IF, FOR ME, TODAY IS AIR MARKING THE DOLLARS. >> OKAY. >> JUDGE: AND I THINK THAT THEY WOULD WORK DILIGENTLY TO MAKE SURE ALL OF THAT GETS DONE. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> JUDGE: SO, IF YOU, AS THEY SAY PUT DOLLARS TOWARDS THAT. YOU CAN PUT THAT [LAUGHTER] MY GOAL IS TODAY IS TO EARMARK THE DOLLARS FOR THE MONUMENTS AT THE SACRED CEMETERY AND THEN HONOR THE FALLEN HEROES MEMORIAL. I HAD JJ KIND OF DID THAT AND BREAK DOWN AND HE IS JUST GIVING IT TO YOU. I THINK IT'S 55 AND 45. >> 55 AND 45 JUDGE. >> JUDGE: THAT'S A TOTAL OF APPROXIMATELY $100,000. AND SO, I THINK JJ, IT'S FAIR THAT YOU COULD BRING BACK THE DETAILS TODAY. YOU KNOW? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO ALLOCATE THOSE DOLLARS AND AGAIN, IT WOULD BE TOWARDS THE VETERAN EVENT. THEY ARE THE 501(C)(3) HAS TAKEN THE CEMETERY. THEY DO A LOT OF OUR NONPROFIT WORK THERE. >> YES. >> [INDISCERNIBLE] OF THE TRINITY THE VETERANS BANNER FOR THE MONUMENT? >> JUDGE: OKAY, GO AHEAD. >> WE WOULD ALLOCATE THE MONEY TO THE VETERANS BAND BECAUSE WE HAVE TO ALLOCATE THOSE ARPA FUNDS TO A LOCAL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT WAS IMPACTED BY COVID SIR. >> WITH EB UNDER THE UMBRELLA? > YES. >> AND OF COURSE, IT WOULD BE ACCORDING WITH MY OFFICE BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY OPERATE AND MAINTAIN THE CEMETERY. SO, WE WOULD HAVE OVERSIGHT. >> JUDGE: THERE WOULD BE THE TECHNICAL SUB RECIPIENT PAID THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCUREMENT HERE IN THE COUNTY.T WAS JUST THAT THEY WOULD BE THE ONES TO HELP US ACCOMPLISH ALL THE DETAILS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. THERE IS A LOT OF PROTOCOLS ON MONUMENTS AND SO, THEY WOULD BE THE ONES TO HELP COORDINATE WITH JJ AND AGAIN ON THE MONUMENT ON ALL THOSE MONUMENTS I BELIEVE. WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD LEADER IN YOU JJ TO GET ALL THAT DONE. AND THE SAME THING WITH YOU KNOW? LIKE ALL DETAILS. AS SOON AS YOU GET THEM. I KNOW THAT THE COURT IS GOING TO TAKE AN INTEREST IN IT. >> GIVE US ABOUT TWO YEARS. IT TAKES A LOT TO GET EVERYTHING MANUALLY. MISSED SOMETHING AND GOD, WHAT'S IT CALLED ÃTHIS [INDISCERNIBLE] >> WE WANT TO TAKE THE HIT THE GROUND AND RUN APPROACH SIR. >> JUDGE: THIS WILL BE COMPETITIVELY PROCURED. E WILL GET THE BEST, HOPEFULLY PRICE GIVEN THAT WE'RE GONNA DO ALL OF THEM AT ONCE. >> YES. >> JUDGE: OKAY. YES. JOHN? YES. COMMISSIONER, GO AHEAD. >> SORRY. I WANT TO HELP CONTRIBUTE TO THIS AND SO ÃTHIS WE HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY AND I WOULD LOVE TO GO AT LEAST HALF WERE I'M SURE THE REST OF THE COURT ÃÃIF THEY HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO ALSO POSSIBLY PITCH IN. IS THERE ANOTHER CHANCE LATER ON? OR SHOULD I ASK TO HAVE THAT INCLUDED NOW? >> JUDGE: I WILL JUST MAKE THE MOTION NOW TO DO 50-50. 50,000 FROM YOUR ALLOCATION AND OF ARPA AND 50,000 FROM MINE. AND I KNOW THAT IS FANTASTIC BECAUSE WE WILL BE ABLE TO YOU KNOW? WE WILL BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER WITH JJ ON THIS PROJECT.> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, WE WILL BE REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO GAIN INPUT PAID WE WANT THEIR INPUT TO SEE WHAT THEY WANT IS MONUMENTS. SO, SUCH AS CANOPY ÃÃWE'RE GONNA GO AND PUT WHAT WE WANT THERE. NO, WE WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS THEIR VOICE AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE GOOD WITH THE DESIGN. SO, WE PLAN TO INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY. ESPECIALLY THE VETERANS COMMUNITY.> WONDERFUL. JOHN, MAY I MAKE THE MOTION AND THEN WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE SECOND? >> SURE. >> OKAY. >> SECOND. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AS THEY SAY ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY [12. Discuss and consider use of American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds to support the Corpus Christi Black Chamber of Commerce.] SAYING HI. LEX I. > I. >> JJ, ON A WONDERFUL PROJECT AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING. PLEASE COME ON THE AGENDA WHENEVER YOU HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO REPORT. >> WILL DO. [04:25:02] THANK YOU JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. >> JJ, GREAT JOB. >> JUDGE: ITEM NUMBER 12. I'M GOING TO ASK THAT YOU TABLE.T'S ALSO AN ITEM THAT I PUT ON. BUT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A COLLABORATION AND SO, I JUST CAN ASK YOU TO HOLD IT. I WOULD LIKE THE TABLE TO REFLECT I GUESS AUGUST 29 AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAS INDICATED THAT THEY ARE GOING TO MEET WITH NAACP. THEY HAVE A HISTORICAL PRESERVATION OFFICER SOMEONE WE KNOW REALLY WELL. SYLVIA TRY ON. SYLVIA OLIVER TRAN. THINK IF THEY WOULD LIKE THE COME MAKE AGAIN, THE PRESENTATION AND TALK ABOUT IT, BUT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO TOGETHER AND SO, AUGUST 29 IS MY REQUEST TO DATE. AND IF THEY NEED MORE TIME, WE CAN GIVE THEM MORE TIME. HOPEFULLY IN THE 29TH THEY WILL BE ABLE TO JOIN US.S THERE A SECOND TO MY TABLE? >> ALL THOSE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY ÃÃANY QUESTIONS? ALL THOSE SIGNIFY MISSING I. >> I. > ITEM NUMBER 13 IS. >> REALLY DISCUSS THIS JUDGE. > WE DID. IT WAS JUST A LITTLE BIT A VAGUE CLEANUP. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS JENNY, DID YOU SEE THE ERROR OF THE 21Ö2 TWICE?IT WAS MEANT TO BE 22Ö3. I'M GUESSING. >> YES. I THINK IT WAS TWO. >> TO BE MAKE THAT AMENDMENT? >> MOTION TO USE ARPA FUNDS FOR PRISONER INMATE HOUSING. FOR YEAR 22Ö3 AND USING ARPA FUNDS FOR PRISON INMATES FOR YEAR 22Ö3. >> JUDGE: THANK YOU. I WILL SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> I. >> JUDGE: POST SAME SIGN. >> JUDGE: OKAY. [2. Discuss and consider execution of an Engineering Services Contract with Govind Development, LLC to provide mechanical engineering services.] WE HAVE ALREADY DONE BE ONE. I WILL CALL UPON UP FOR B2. THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING WE HAVE ALREADY HEARD ABOUT. BUT NOW WE ARE READY PRINT WE HAVE THE CONTRACT READY IN ITS CORRECT FORM. IS THAT ACCURATE WITH COVEN DEVELOPMENT. LLC TO PROVIDE MECHANICAL ENGINEERING SERVICES TO PUBLIC WORKS. ITEM B2. >> THAT IS CORRECT JUDGE. >> WE PRESENT THE UPDATED CONTRACT TO THE ADMINISTRATION THIS MORNING. AND ALSO WITH JENNY. WE DO HAVE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. WE DO HAVE THE UPDATED COPY READY FOR SIGNATURE. FOR APPROVAL. SORRY, RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. >> SO MOVED. >> OKAY, ONCE AGAIN NOW. I HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. IT SAYS PROGRAM MANAGEMENT.> THE NEW ONE THIS DISH WE MODIFIED THAT ONE JUDGE. >> JUDGE: THAT IS NOT MY BOOK. >> YES MA'AM. MY CORRECT JENNY? CUSTOMÁ THE ONE THAT WAS ATTACHED ÃÃBEFORE TODAY WAS JUST THE OLD ONE. AND JUAN HAS PROVIDED I BELIEVE TEST IS. >> AN UPDATED COPY.> YES, PLEASE. >> IN THE SUN. >> ENGINEERING IN MY BOOK. WHAT'S RIGHT? >> YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE ÃÃIN MY BOOK. MY UNDERSTANDING IS STILL DISDAIN FROM THE LAST TIME. >> DISCUSSION THIS DISH PROJECT MANAGER. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> JUDGE: CAN I SEE YOURS BRENT? >> I DON'T SEE ANY. >> JUDGE: ONE OF MY BOOK SAYS WHERE THE COUNTY DESIRES TO CONTRACT FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES ÃÃBUT THEN IT SAYS THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT IS TO PROVIDE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SERVICES. >> NO MA'AM. Ãà [INDISCERNIBLE] >> OKAY, HERE. >> YOU GIVE THIS? >> THIS MORNING. >> YES. >> I HAVE NOT READ IT. >> THE ONLY THING THAT WAS MODIFIED WAS THE PROGRAM AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT. >> I'M WITH YOU. THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE'RE NOT DOING PRODUCT MANAGEMENT. >> NO SIR. YOU GET THE QUICK WHEN JENNY? THIS IS NOT PROGRAM MANAGEMENT? >> I DO NOT HAVE IT AND I PASSED ON. I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE THAT'S JUST THINK WE HAVE ÃTHIS WE CAN PASS THIS ADVANTAGE IN HAVING THE RIGHT CONTRACT JUDGE. >> ARE BE HAPPY TO PASS IT AND SUBJECT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REVIEWING IT AND MAKING SURE THAT IT'S GOT ALL THE RIGHT LEG WHICH FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES. >> OKAY.> THE MOTION AND A SECOND WEB. >> THE MOTION. >> DISCUSSION JUDGE. >> YES, ABSOLUTELY. MOTION AND A SECOND. GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> JENNY, I'M TRYING TO READ YOUR ÃTHIS IS THERE ANYTHING HERE THAT HAS ANYTHING WHICH TEST IS NOT ONLY IN THIS CONTRACT, BUT IN THE CONTRACT TO THE COMPANY BEING SOLD OFF TO SOMEONE THAT'S JUST OF THIS CONTRACT GET SOLD OFF TO THE COMPANY THAT BUYS IT? OR HOW DOES THAT WORK?UST IN GENERAL? >> I DO NOT HAVE A COPY OF IT TO LOOK AT AND TELL YOU THAT, BUT I CAN'T LOOK AT THAT [04:30:03] OFF-LINE AND GET BACK WITH YOU. SO.> JENNY, I WILL POINT YOU TO ARTICLE 28 SUCCESSORS AND ASSIGNS ON PAGE 11 OF 13. IT DOES A SIGN OF SUCH OTHER PARTY RESPECT TO ALL COVENANTS OF THIS CONTRACT. BUT THE ENGINEER SHALL NOT ASSIGN SUBCONTRACTOR TRANSFERS TO AND SINCE WITHOUT PRIOR WRITTEN CONSENT. SO, LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE THE CONSENT COMMISSIONERS MODEST. BUT THERE IS A AN ASSIGNMENT PROVISION OR CLOSE.UT AGAIN? JENNY IS THE BEST PERSON TO LOOK AT IT. >> OF COURSE. >> AND QUICKLY. >> AND THIS IS A DISCUSSION TOO. MAYBE IF YOU CAN Ãà [INDISCERNIBLE] WHENEVER YOU HAVE AN OUNCE OF A SECOND OF TIME TO GET IS MAY BE A MEMO JUST TO CLARIFY THIS IS STANDARD LANGUAGE FOR ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS. >> OKAY. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW?HIS THING THIS IS A LOT OF COMPANIES THAT ARE BEING BOUGHT BY BIGGER COMPANIES AND JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COMMIT TO A LOCAL COMPANY. YOU COMMIT TO A LOCAL PLACE SO THERE'S STILL CAN BE PART OF IT, RIGHT? I WOULDN'T WANT TO GIVE OUT THE CONTRACT TO COMPANY THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE SOLD TO SOMEONE ELSE AND THEN YOU KNOW? HAVE THAT CONNECTION ÃÃOTHER CONNECTIONS KNOWING THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE BY THESE LOCAL FARMS. IT'S SO IMPORTANT. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE THESE PERSONAL CONTRACTS BECAUSE THE WORK IS ARTIE KNOWN AND SO, I THINK THAT ALLOWS US TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY GOING INTO CONTRACTS. ONLY BECAUSE WE HAVE THEM. WE KNOW THEM AND WE CAN POINT TO SPECIFIC PROJECTS. SO THIS DISH FUTURE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE. THAT WERE WRITTEN INTO THE CONTRACT THAT ALWAYS ALLOWS FOR US TO HAVE TO HAVE WRITTEN CONSENT BEFORE ANYTHING IS TRANSFERRED OVER TO ANY OTHER SUCCESSORS OR BUYERS AT LEAST OF THESE LOCAL FARMS. WERE ANY PHONE. >> OKAY COMMISSION. IT'S THERE AND THAT ONE AND THEN I WILL COMMUNICATE THAT YOU WANT THAT TO BE IN ALL FUTURE ONES AND CONTRACTS. >> THANK YOU. >> I GIVE ONE. >> OKAY, IS THERE A. >> I THINK HE DID ALREADY. >> DIDN'T YOU DO IT ALREADY? AND THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND. AGAIN, I HAD NOT SEEN THIS NEW ONE SO I'M JUST TRYING TO COMPARE IT. BUT AGAIN, I LIKE THE IDEA OF JENNY GETTING TO LOOK AT IT. IT LOOKS TO BE IN THE SAME FORMAT AS IT WAS BEFORE. >> JUDGE: OKAY, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER IF THERE ARE NO OTHER [3. Discuss and consider approval of a Third Amendment to Work Authorization No. 1 with Lockwood, Andrews, and Newnam (LAN), Inc. for Program Management providing for re-allocation of previously committed funds.] QUESTIONS ÃÃALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> I. >> POST SAME SIGN. ONE WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE. >> YES. JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS ÃÃWE ARE RECOMMENDING THE APPROVAL OF THE THIRD AMENDMENT TO WORK OUT THE AUTHORIZATION OF NUMBER ONE. LAM. FOR PROGRAM MANAGEMENT PROVIDING REALLOCATION OF PREVIOUSLY COMMITTED FUNDS. JUDGE, SO MOVED. >> JUDGE: CAN YOU PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND THAT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR IS FOR THE. >> HOTEL COMMUNITY CENTER. >> HILLTOP COMMUNITY CENTER? IT WAS THAT JUST ABOUT FROM 357,930 WITH THE NEW ESTIMATED FOR THIS CONTRACT IS UNDER THE NINE 48 WHICH IS AN ESTIMATED FUND BALANCE OF 240,000 OR 42. >> WE'RE GOING FROM 300 TO 100? >> FEBRUARY 1, 2009. >> THAT WILL TAKE US THROUGH KIND OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW WANT? >> YES-MAN RIGHT UP TO WHAT'S BEING SPENT TODAY. >> TO WHAT'S BEING SPENT TODAY? TELL ME WHAT YOU MEAN. BECAUSE I KNOW LIKE DAVID RICHTER CAME IN AND DOES IT TAKE US TO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT THIS MINUTE SINCE WE DON'T HAVE FULL FUNDING? IS THAT KIND OF THE IDEA? >> YES MA'AM. IT'S UP TO THE EXPENDITURES THAT HAVE BEEN UP-TO-DATE. >> IF DAVID RICHTER CONTINUES TO WORK THEN WHAT? >> ON THIS ONE JUDGE, WE ARE RECOMMENDING SINCE THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS ARE THIS IS WE RECOMMEND THAT THOSE IN THE FUTURE SOME THESE FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR ANY TYPE OF FUTURE PROJECTS OR ENDURE THIS PROJECT. AND SO. >> YOUR RECOMMENDING REMOVING COMPLETELY THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT FROM HELL TALK? >> YES-MAN. >> THAT IS BASED ON WHAT AGAIN? >> BASED ON HONESTY IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS DAVID RICHTER HAS BEEN WORKING WITH US. AND COORDINATING THROUGHOUT THIS TIME, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THESE FUNDS BE REALLOCATED AND. [04:35:03] >> JUDGE: HAS ÃÃHAVE YOU CONSULTED WITH JENNY? >> JENNY, YOU CONSULTED? BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ON A PROJECT AND NOT WE ARE GETTING OFF THE PROJECT. HAVE YOU SPOKEN WITH THEM AND DELAY AGREE? >> AS FAR AS WHETHER OR NOT THEY AGREED THIS IS I BELIEVE THE COUNTY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO THIS. >> SO IT æ >> COMMISSIONER JOE ONE JUDGE PER. >> I AGREE. ALL OF IT MATTERS NOT. >> OKAY. SO, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND AND OTHER ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION ON REMOVING THE PROGRAM MANAGER? WILL THERE BE A PROJECT MANAGER ON THE HILLTOP PROJECT? >> AT THIS TIME, IT WILL BE MYSELF JUDGE AND ALSO COORDINATION THIS IS A BEEN COORDINATING WITH DAVID RICHTER ON THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS. MY STAFF AND I AND COMMISSIONER AND WE HAVE BEEN COORDINATING WITH THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS. SO, WE WILL BE HEADING BACK THAT INTERNALLY. >> OKAY. SO, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. >> JUDGE JUST TO MAKE SURE. JUST TO RESTATE THE MOTION. I DON'T KNOW THE ITEMS JUMPED IN ON THIS. >> IT'S QUAN'S ITEM. HE WANTS TO REMOVE LAM. >> OKAY. BUT THIS PRESENT ONE. AS WELL TRYING TO SAY.'M GONNA LET YOU ÃTHIS IF YOU WANT TO DO IT ÃTO SOME SUPPORT. I JUST æ >> I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH THE PRE-ÁCUSTOMÁ I'M SORRY. >> I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH ALL THIS. >> IT'S YOUR PRESENT SO I SHOULD NOT JUMPED ON A MOTION ON YOUR PRESENT. >> THAT YOU VERY MUCH. I MAKE THE MOTION. SPAKE. >> JUDGE: YOU WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE LIN.HOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> I. >> JUDGE: ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ONE IS THAT YOU WANT TO REMOVE THE PROGRAM [4. Discuss and consider approval of a First Amendment to Work Authorization No. 2 with Lockwood, Andrews, and Newnam (LAN), Inc. for Program Management providing for re-allocation of previously committed funds.] MANAGEMENT FROM ITEM NUMBER FOUR. >> I'M SORRY JUDGE? >> NO. >> NO. >> YES, THE NEXT ONE WE RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO WORK ON THE AUTHORIZATION OF NUMBER TWO WITH LAM FOR PROGRAM MANAGEMENT PROVIDING REALLOCATION OF PREVIOUSLY COMMITTED FUNDS. THE MONIES WILL GO THE DIFFERENCE OF THE WORK AUTHORIZATION IS 1.9 MILLION 388 380,000. 900 AND $0.50. TO AN ESTIMATED COST OF 400 MILLION OF 400,099 POINT WHICH IS AN ESTIMATED BALANCE OF 503,719 AND $0.50. AND THIS IS FOR THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S GOING. I KNOW WE MADE MODIFICATIONS AND PLAN ON MAKING MODIFICATIONS TO MEDICAL EXAMINERS. SO, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THIS TO THE COURT. >> JUDGE: AGAIN, IF YOU COULD BE MORE SPECIFIC. I RECOMMENDING THAT HE MOVED TO THE 7 MILLION? THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT FOR THE $7 MILLION MEDICAL FACILITY? WERE YOU TRYING TO GET RID OF THEM ALTOGETHER. >> I'M JESS. I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS A DECISION OR BY COURT. THEY'VE APPROVED ÃTHIS IS CAN BE AVAILABLE. LIKE I SAID, THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS THAT NEED FUNDING. AND WE HAVE A ROOF PROJECT THAT WE NEED TO DO THE CAPTAIN. THERE IS A ROOF PROJECT HERE AT THE COURTHOUSE AND WE NEED SOME FUNDING. >> JUDGE: TEST $10 MILLION. >> WE ARE RECOMMENDING. I KNOW IT'S LIKE, I WANT TO A NUMBER BECAUSE WE ARE PUBLIC. BUT IT'S MONIES THAT WE CAN USE. >> JUDGE: AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO JUST GET TO THE CRUX OF IT. DID YOU SCALE IT BACK TO THE 7 MILLION? OR DID YOU SAY THAT YOU WANT TO REMOVE THEM COMPLETELY GIVEN à ÃJUDGE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN FOR THIS HAS THE MEDICAL EXAMINERS AND ALSO THE ANIMAL CARE FACILITY. SO, THEY STOP SOME MONIES IN THERE FOR THAT. THIS IS REMOVING THE MEDICAL EXAMINERS. >> RIGHT, YOU ARE SUGGESTING THAT WE HAVE NO PROGRAM MANAGER TO WORK ON OUR PROGRAM FOR CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT, WHICH INCLUDES A MEDICAL EXAMINER? >> THAT IS CORRECT. AT THIS TIME, THE MODIFICATION FOR THE CONTRACT ÃÃTHAT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION. >> MOCK MODIFICATION OF THE CONTRACT? >> I KNOW THAT THERE MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY OF MODIFYING OR UPDATING THE MEDICAL EXAMINERS. >> JUDGE: WE CERTAINLY ALLOCATED THE 7 MILLION. I AM WONDERING WHAT WE DON'T HAVE OVERSIGHT OF COMPLEX MEDICAL FACILITY. >> I WILL BE OVERSEEING THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S. >> I THINK ONE IS PERFECTLY QUALIFIED TO DO THAT JUDGE. >> THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. >> DOING MAKE A MOTION? [04:40:01] >> IN ADDITION TO THE 7 MILLION? >> YES SIR, I CAN BE IN ADDITION TO 7 MILLION. YES COMMISSIONER. >> EASIER FOR SOMETHING ELSE. >> YES, >> WHAT WE DO NOT RECOMMEND SCALING BACK TO THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ABILITY. AT THIS TIME, WE JUST DID A CONTRACT TO GET YOU EXTRA HELP IN THE MD DEPARTMENT. SO BECAUSE YOU DO NOT HAVE ADDITIONAL HELP. A SUGGESTING THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO OVERSEE HILLTOP AND ALL THE OTHER TEST IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF HAVING A PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AS YOU KNOW IS THAT THIS COURT AUTHORIZED WANT TO BE. YOU ALSO RECOMMENDED D'S AND NICHOLS TO BE IN PROGRAM MANAGER. IF YOU DO NOT WANT PROGRAM MANAGER, WHAT DID YOU RECOMMEND TO RFP THEM? I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY YOU ARE SYSTEMATICALLY REMOVING ONE PARTICULAR GROUP AND ADVOCATING FOR TWO MORE FOR CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. IT'S A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING TO ME. CAN YOU EXPLAIN? >> I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THAT. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. I'M ASKING FOR DISCUSSION WANT HIM CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY YOU ARE PROMOTING COVID AND TRYING TO REMOVE LAND? ON PROGRAM MANAGEMENT? >> ON GIVEN JUDGE, I NEED MY COUNTY COURT TO VOLUNTEER. >> IN TALKING TO RFP. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT. >> YOU TALKED ABOUT GETTING GO OPEN. >> PROGRAM MANAGERS. >> FOR PROGRAM. FOR MANAGERS. >> NO SIR, THE PREVIOUS. >> JUDGE: EXCUSE ME, YOU ARE INTERRUPTING ME. >> JUDGE: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT APPLES AND ORANGES.OVID, WE APPROVE THAT. MECHANICAL ENGINEERING. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE RFP FOR PROGRAM MANAGEMENT. THIS COURT MADE A DECISION NOT TOO LONG AGO THAT PRETTY DARN RECENT TO GO OUT FOR PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SERVICES. AT THIS COURT ÃÃIT PUT ADDITIONAL TWO FIRMS AS WE SELECTED THEM. BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT THOSE WERE THE TWO THEY CAME OUT OF COMMITTEE AND THAT YOU RECOMMEND.> THERE WAS A COMMITTEE COMMISSIONER AND JUDGE. THERE WAS A COMMITTEE THAT SELECTED GO IN. >> JUDGE: REESE AND NICHOLS AND GO THEN. IT SKEWS ME JUST AS YOU ARE INTERRUPTING AGAIN.> SIR? >> SINCE THEY ARE UNDER CONTRACT WITH THE COUNTY THEY WILL BE WORKING UNDER YOU? >> YES. IN THE SUN FOR SURE. >> OKAY.> JUDGE: WHO WILL BE. I DON'T KNOW. YOU INTERRUPTED ME.> IN TALKING ABOUT COVID. >> JUDGE: BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT PROGRAM MANAGEMENT.HIS COUNTY HAS PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND I AM CURIOUS Ãà ARE YOU GOING TO FOLLOW THE SAME PHILOSOPHY THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY PROGRAM MANAGEMENT BECAUSE YOU SEEM TO BE WANTING TO BE THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT FOR EVERYTHING. YOUR SYSTEMATICALLY REMOVING PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH US AND THEN WE WENT AHEAD AND RFP NEW PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR FUTURE PROJECTS. BUT FOR THESE PROJECTS ÃÃYOU ARE REMOVING THE CURRENT PROGRAM MANAGER. THAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION. >> THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION. >> JUDGE: THAT IS BASED ON? I HAVE ÃÃI DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. YOU BROUGHT THIS UP WITHOUT. >> MY RECOMMENDATION TEST TEST IS UP TO THE COURT TO DECIDE TO APPROVE OR NOT TO APPROVE. >> CAN ASK A QUESTION JUDGE? >> SO, THE LAST ONE WAS EASIER FOR ME OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ PROJECT IS PRESENT ÃÃMOVING UP IN THIS DISTANCE HE IS DRIVEN THIS THING AND I GET IT. WANTS TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT. SOME CLOTHES FOR BECAUSE IT'S ALL OF OUR PROJECTS. RIGHT? AND THEY ARE ALL OF OUR PROJECTS. I DON'T MEAN TO BE THAT WAY, BUT I TRIED TO GET MORE DIFFERENCE TO PRESENT COMMISSIONERS WHO PROJECTS AS LONG AS I THINK THEY ARE GOOD PROJECTS. HICH I THINK COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ IS IS. THIS IS MORE MCENTEE WENT PROJECT. TELL ME ÃÃHOW YOU'RE GOING TO MANAGE THAT PROJECT. I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS. THIS IS A BIG DEAL.T'S GOT TO BE RIGHT. TO ME, IF YOU WOULD COME IN AND SAID THAT I WANT TO TAKE A PROGRAM MANAGEMENT OFF. EVERY PROJECT MANAGER, THAT MIGHT BE ÃÃI THINK YOU ARE OVERLOADED. I SUPPORT YOU. I'M JUST REALLY NERVOUS ABOUT THIS PROJECT.OU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW YOU ENVISION THIS ONE WORKING BECAUSE YOU KNOW? AND MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE IN GENERAL HAS BEEN WE HAVE A LOT OF ATTENTION ON THIS ONE TOO. JUST IN GENERAL. TELL ME HOW YOU ENVISION THIS WORKING. >> YES SIR. IT JUST DEPENDING IF THERE WAS AN AGENDA ITEM IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS OR SEE OKAY OR FOR THE MEDICAL EXAMINERS ÃÃI GUESS THAT ONE IS GONNA ÃÃTHIS ONE'S GONNA BE DEPENDING ON THAT ONE THAT PROJECT. MOMMY SELECT A COMMISSIONER. SO THAT WE ÃÃEITHER THEY CAN MANAGE THE PROJECT OR THEY CAN [04:45:04] MANAGE THE PROJECT OR WITH A POINT IN TIME, WE CAN DETERMINE IF WE NEED TO BRING BACK SOME VIDEOS AS A PROJECT MANAGER. >> TELL ME KIND OF IN GENERAL à ÃDO WANT TO KNOW ONE OR TWO ANSWERS AS FAR AS HOW ÃÃWHERE YOU THINK WE OUGHT TO USE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AND READY THINK WE SHOULDN'T? BECAUSE SHE'S RIGHT IN THE SENSE THAT WE WENT THROUGH THIS WHOLE THING TO ADD PROGRAM MANAGEMENT.ECAUSE WE WANTED TO ADD ALTERNATIVES TO DIFFERENT PROGRAM MANAGERS. RIGHT? >> IS THIS FOR SAUCE FOR CHANGE ON YOUR PART? OR TELL ME HOW YOU GOT ON THIS FRONT WHERE YOU GOT TO THIS ONE. >> ON THIS ONE COMMISSIONER? >> IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PROJECT MANAGER AND COMMISSIONERS Ãà THERE ARE SOME GOOD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT RETEST ÃHOW CAN I SAY? THE PROJECTS THAT MAKE IT SMALLER THAN WHAT WAS INITIALLY A PROCESSOR. AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. WE DO HAVE A HIGH DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR PROJECT MANAGER AT THIS TIME. SO PROGRAM MANAGER. >> I THREW IN PROJECT MANAGER. >> SO. >> BUT MY RECOMMENDATION COMMISSIONER. >> EXCUSE ME. IN THE PAST ÃÃI'VE HEARD YOU MAKE SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT APM AND THE PROJECT MANAGER. NOT CATCHING SOME OF THE MISTAKES OR SOME OF THEIR PROBLEMS. THEY'VE HAD OR CREATED GOOD AND YOU HAVE HAD TO CORRECT THOSE PROBLEMS. RIGHT? >> OUR OFFICE HAS BEEN OVERSEEING SOME OF THIS PROJECT. AND IT WE HAVE RYAN AND BOBBY AND BERT OVERSEEING SOME OF THESE PROJECTS COMMISSIONER. THAT IS CORRECT. CUSTOMÁ HAVE TO BE HONEST. I DO THINK ABOUT THIS ONE. SO, NOT REALLY READY TO PUT ON THIS ONE TODAY. >> IT'S GONNA BENEFIT. I DON'T KNOW. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE [INDISCERNIBLE] THIS WILL BENEFIT THEM. AND SOMEHOW ÃÃTHAT IS MY CONCERN RIGHT NOW. YOU HAD ME BUILDING. YOU KNOW? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE SOMEHOW THAT WE CAN JUSTICE LUNGS WERE ABLE TO BENEFIT AND REBUILD OR NOT. THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE OLD BUILDING OR THE OTHER ONE THAT WE SAID TO HIM. THE RESTRICTION OF THE OLD BUILDING TESTIS ETIQUETTES ALSO INCLUDED PROBABLY IN THE 7 MILLION I'M SURE. I THINK. I'M NOT ÃÃI DON'T NUMBER. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME OF THESE TESTIS IN CASE WE DO NEED TO.> YOU ARE CORRECT COMMISSIONER. >> MENTIONED ALSO ON THE BOWLING. THAT WE NEED A ROOF AND WE WORKED ON IT NOW. WE'RE GONNA NEED A ROOF. WE'RE GONNA NEED A ROOF. >> YES SIR. >> WE DO THE CLAIM.> IN THE PRESENT THE COMMISSIONER MODEST WANTS TO DO TESTIS ON BUILDING TWO. SO TESTIS THE ROOF IS CAN IT BE THE PROJECT THAT WE NEED TO DO. THOSE MONIES CAN BE TRANSFERRED TO AND FROM THEM. CAN SEE WHERE WE CAN UTILIZE THOSE MONIES. SO, I DON'T KNOW. >> THAT IS ANOTHER REASON WE'RE LOOKING AT. THEY ARE AVAILABLE MCADOO OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO DO ALSO COMMISSIONER. >> MORE PROJECTS THE BETTER. >> THE ROOF PROJECT IS UNNECESSARY æ >> YES. >> WANTED TO WEIGH IN A LITTLE BIT. I MADE RESERVATIONS BY COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. TESTIS I THINK YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK ON THIS. >> YES SIR. >> WITH WHAT WE GIVE YOU IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROJECT. I DO THINK THAT YOU ARE WANTING MORE AND THE ABILITY TO KIND OF MANAGE AND HELP PROVIDE SOME OVERSIGHT FOR US. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. I WANT TO HEAR LITTLE BIT MORE TOO. SO, I THINK IF WE CAN HOLD OFF PERHAPS THE NEXT WEEK, WE CAN GET A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND. WITH YOU. BE ABLE TO PROVIDE US SOME MORE INFORMATION THAT MIGHT BE EASIER FOR ME TO DECIDE TO HOLD OFF.ECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFERENT. ISSUE. COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS ONE THAT WE JUST RECORDED. I HOPE THERE IS ENOUGH VOTES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. AND AT THE TABLE. DOING THAT. HAVING TO MAKE A DECISION TESTIS INTO A FEW QUESTIONS. >> JUDGE, ONLY TO DO THAT. WOULD LIKE TO ÃÃLIKE THE [5. Discuss and consider selection of CLK Architects & Associates for Architectural Services related to the Nueces County Medical Examiners Facility; alternatively discuss and consider method of procurement (request for qualifications) for architectural services for Nueces County Medical Examiner’s Office.] [04:50:19] MOTION TO TABLE. I JUST NEED TO REALLY SIT DOWN WITH WANT AND DO THIS MORE. I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE 2 THE 29TH. >> SECOND. >> I'M SORRY. YOU HAVE TO RESEND. >> A RECENT MY MOTION TO. >> I RESENT MY SECOND. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE TO AUGUST 29. PLEASE. >> THANK YOU JUDGE. >> I GOT A SECOND. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY MISSING EYE. >> I. >> I. >> JUDGE: ITEM NUMBER 5Ä CONSIDER THE SELECTION OF SEE OKAY FOR ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES FOR THE MEDICAL EXAMINERS FACILITY. ALTERNATIVELY DISCUSS THE METHOD APPLICABLE. WHICH WOULD BE AN RFQ. TEXTUAL SERVICES. AND WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE DO AN RFQ BASED UPON THE ADVICE THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN BOTH FROM HAGGERTY AND FROM ATTACK. WHICH IS BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU BY THE COUNTY MANAGER. >> IN OTHER WORDS, IF REQUIRED IN ORDER TESTIS. >> YES. I WOULD SECOND THAT. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. AND IN THE OTHER DISCUSSION Ãà OBVIOUSLY, WE NEED THE SCOPE OF WORK TO BE YOU KNOW? WORKED ON WITH MICHAEL. >> AGAIN, WHEN HE DID THE SCOPE OF WORK, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE IT VETTED WITH OUR CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER. SO THAT ALL THE TERMINOLOGY IS USED ALL THE CONCEPTS ARE BEING ARTICULATED. >> YES. WILL SADDAM WITH THE MEDICAL EXAMINER. >> YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT WE ALREADY DID A SCOPE OF WORK. FOR AN RFQ FOR ARCHITECTURAL TESTIS FOR A MEDICAL EXAMINER. I WOULD PULL THE OLD RFQ OUT. SINCE WE'VE REALLY DONE AT ONCE. MEXICO. YES. >> JUDGE: [INDISCERNIBLE] GO AHEAD. I'M JUST GONNA FOLLOW UP WITH JENNY ON SOMETHING. >> ON THIS ONE. >> ON THIS ONE, GO AHEAD.> CAN WE ADD TO IT THE POTENTIAL FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT BEING DISCUSSED IN THIS TWO? WOULD DEPENDING ON WHERE WE GO WITH THAT. NUMBER FIVE TO THE RFQ TESTIS WOULD WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING? ÃÃSO COME ON ALL THESE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT THAT WE DID TESTIS AND WE RFQ DEMO. SO, YOU THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS ÃÃWE ARE STILL OKAY WITH THE RFQ IN DARPA PROJECTS? >> THE CONFUSING ONE HERE ON NUMBER FIVE ÃÃTHIS ROW IS HEADING TO AN YES THE ANSWER IS YES. YES TO YOU. IT'S GONNA TALK TO JENNY AND SAY THIS IS WORK IT'S CONFUSING. BECAUSE WE HAVE ALREADY RFQ FOR ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES FOR A MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE. AND WHAT'S CONFUSING IS THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO DO IT AGAIN. IT SEEMS THAT IT'S æ >> ON THINK WE DID RFQ FOR ARCHITECTURAL THING. >> I'M GONNA CALL ON MICHAEL TO REFRESH EVERYBODY'S. WE DID DO THIS ALREADY. THAT TESTIS LET'S HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY. >> IF I RECALL TESTIS WHEN WE DID THE RFQ BEFORE TESTIS. >> IF YOU DON'T MIND MICHAEL. THE MICROPHONE MICHAEL.> IF YOU'D IF WE DID THE RFQ BEFORE ÃÃTHAT WAS FOR A BRAND-NEW LOCAL EXAMINER BUILDING. SO, IN MY MIND IF WE ARE ARGUING THAT PROJECT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS IS MODIFICATIONS TO THE EXISTING BUILDING. IS THAT CORRECT? >> I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, THAT'S NOT WHAT I THOUGHT. I THOUGHT WE WERE GETTING A BRAND-NEW BUILDING.> THEY ARE BOTH. >> NO NO NO. THAT IS REHABBING AND ADDING ON TO. >> SO, SONICATION TO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. SOMETHING ORIGINAL PLAN THAT WE HAVE WHICH WAS TO GET A BRAND-NEW BUILDING IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION. >> YES, I WOULD HAVE TO TELL YOU TESTIS THAT IS NOT THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED FOR THE $7 MILLION. GUESS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT IT WOULD CONNECT UP. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT SITE SELECTION HAS BEEN TESTIS I GUESS THAT'S WHAT AN ARCHITECT WOULD LOOK AT. BUT WE HAD A SLIGHT SELECTION THAT WAS ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING. MAYBE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT FURTHER. BUT, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT MODIFYING WHAT WE HAVE AND THEN EITHER CONNECTING OR NOT ÃÃI HOPE WE ARE GETTING A PRINTING FACILITY. AND NOT EIGHT REMODEL OF AN OLD FACILITY PICK. >> WE ARE GETTING A REMODEL AND AN EXTENSION JUDGE PIT THAT WAS EXACTLY WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR LIKE AN HOUR. WE ARE REDOING THE EXISTING AND WE ARE ADDING ON TO THE EXISTING AND REDOING THE CURRENT FACILITY AND AN ADDED [04:55:02] UP TO 11,500 SQUARE FEET. WHEN YOU EDIT IT ALL TOGETHER WITH THE REMODEL AND THE ADDITION. SO, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE DISCUSSED. >> THE ADD-ON COULD BE CONSIDERED A NEW BUILDING FOR. >> HE IS THE SAME Ãà INDISCERNIBLE] >> SO, THE LAST TIME TESTIS I GUESS IF WE GO WAY BACK. BILL HAD A CIP PLANT AND NOT IDENTIFIED ALL THESE PROJECTS THAT THE COUNTY NEEDED LIKE 100 AND SOMETHING PROJECTS.E NARROWED IT DOWN TO A SMALLER LIST. AND THAT INCLUDED A NEW MEDICAL EXAMINER BUILDING AT THE TIME. AND SO, WE WENT DOWN THIS ROAD WITH I CANNOT MEMBER THE NAME. >> SMITH GROUP. >> SMITH GROUP WHO SPECIALIZES IN A TYPE OF WORK. AND THEN I GUESS SOMETHING MUST'VE HAPPENED ALONG THE WAY WHERE THE FUNDING THAT WE HAD SET ASIDE FOR THAT MEDICAL EXAMINER BUILDING MOST ETHERNET ENOUGH I DON'T RECALL US COMING BACK AND MODIFYING THE CIP PAYMENT PLAN. TO SAY WHAT NEW PROJECTS YOU WERE GOING TO DO OR WHAT NEW ALLOCATIONS WERE GONNA HAVE. I MIGHT'VE MISSED IT.> JUDGE: I JUST SEE THIS AS A SCOPING OF A TESTIS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT AND I GUESS THAT WAS MY LEGAL QUESTION. IF YOU SEE THIS AS A NEW PROJECT ÃÃGIVEN THAT IT'S Ãà I DON'T HOW MUCH REMODEL THAT HOW MUCH. >> IT'S A REMODEL TO THAT STRUCTURE ÃÃTHAT TO ME IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PROJECT THAN THE ONE THAT WE BID OUT BEFORE. I THINK FROM THAT STANDPOINT TESTIS THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE. >> MEMBER NOBODY KNOWS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN ARCHITECT YET, RIGHT? I GUESS, LIKE YOU SAID, BECAUSE IT'S A NEW PROJECT WITH A NEW SCOPE ÃÃYOU KNOW? WE ARE DOING TO TESTIS I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE. >> WE DONE SOME PROJECTS WHERE WE TRIED TO DO A REALLY LARGE SCOPE AND THAT WE FIND OUT THAT WE CANNOT GET ANY BIDDERS OR THE BIDS WERE TOO HIGH. AND THEN HAD TO COME BACK AND REBID BASICALLY THAT SIMILAR PROJECT. BUT AT A SMALLER SCALE. SO, THAT WAS A BRAND-NEW PROJECT BECAUSE THE SCOPE CHANGED. AND SO ÃÃI SEE THIS AS A DIFFERENT SCOPE ENTIRELY FROM THE OTHER ONE. I DON'T SEE A CONFLICT AND LEVELING AND NEW RFQ. >> OKAY. >> MUST YOU REALLY GOT IT WHEN THE LAST ONE. [LAUGHTER] > IT IS A DECISION OF THE COURT BASED ON HOW MUCH MONEY YOU'LL HAVE TO SPEND. IF YOUR FUTURE PLANS ARE FOR THE MEDICAL EXAMINER BUILDING. >> JUDGE: I GUESS MY BIG QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A SITE SELECTION DISCUSSED WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS SUFFICIENT ROOM BACK THERE IN THE BACK. AGAIN, I DO NOT HAVE A PLAN AND I GUESS THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT IN GETTING ONE OF THE ARCHITECTS TO START THAT PROCESS. BECAUSE WE DO NOT OWN ANY OF THAT LAND. SO,. >> 50 YEARS JUDGE. >> JUDGE: ONLY ON THE FOOTPRINT. ONLY IF WE EXTENDED. >> DATE AGREED TO LINDA AND EXTENSION. >> WE DO NOT HAVE THAT DOCUMENT. >> JUDGE: >> JUDGE: WE DID NOT HAVE THAT DOCUMENT PIT WE NEED TO PURSUE THAT. >> YOU TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING JUDGE THAT WE REALLY TALKED ABOUT. ? IT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE TESTIS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. MANY TIMES? CAN YOU KNOW? AND WE. THERE IS A NEW TEST TEST WE TESTIS WERE TO BE UPGRADING THE OLD BUILDING WITH AN ADDITION TO THE.T'S GONNA BE THE BUILDING BRAND-NEW. TATE-OF-THE-ART. YOU KNOW? IT'LL BE A HALLWAY GOING FROM ONE TO THE OTHER. YOU KNOW? THERE'S ROOM FOR ONE MORE EXTENSION WITH THE PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT DOES NOT HAVE A PROBLEM. BUT THEN AGAIN, THEY ARE PROBABLY GONNA GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE LAND AND ADDITIONALLY IN THE NEXT 10 OR 15 YEARS. SO, I GUESS I NEED TO GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT SO I CAN GET SOMETHING IN WRITING ABOUT THIS. GUESS. SO. THAT IS THE WAY IT IS. THEY WILL BECOME AN ADMINISTRATION BUILDING AND THEY WILL NEW LAPTOPS IN THE BUILDING. >> SO, AS THE COURT CANNOT UPDATE THE CIP PLANT? WITH THIS NEW ALLOCATIONS? >> JUDGE: I THINK WE WILL HAVE TO BRING THAT BACK ON ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM. >> INSTEAD OF MOVING THE OPERA FUNDS. THIS IS WHY THEY'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE ARCHITECT RIGHT NOW. WE HAD $4 MILLION LEFT. THEY JUST GIVE ALL THE MONEY AWAY FOR WHATEVER REASON. YOU KNOW? SO, THEY JUST GAVE IT AWAY. WE WERE DOWN TO 4 MILLION FROM THE MONIES THAT WE HAD ALLOCATED FOR THE AND E BUILDING. SO, WE CAME DOWN FROM 28 TO 15 TO 12 TO 10 AND FOUR. YOU KNOW? AND THEN WE GIVE IT ALL AWAY LAST YEAR. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO COME BACK FROM 7 MILLION. >> JUDGE: SO, EVERYTHING WE JUST SAID IS NOT TRUE. AND YOU REALLY SHOULD RETRACT THAT. I WILL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY OUT OF GRACE. BUT IF YOU DON'T ÃÃTHAT WILL BE YOUR OWN PROBLEM. BUT ANYWAY MICHAEL ÃJUST GIVE ANYMORE, THEY WOULD LIKE TO [05:00:09] SHARE. >> NO, THAT'S OKAY.> GO AHEAD SEPARATE WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO HEAR MORE OF YOUR. >> YOU WANT HERE ANYWAY JUDGE PER. >> I'M HAPPY TO HEAR YOU. >> ABOUT THE ME BUILDING. YOU KNOW? YOU BLOCKING, EVEN BLOCKING IT, YOU'VE BEEN BLOCKING IT, THAT IS THE PROBLEM. YOU'VE BEEN BLOCKING THE BULLET FOR HOW LONG. FOR HOW LONG? >> JUDGE: COUNTY COMMISSIONER DORSEY, CAN WE MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE STAY TESTIS AND KNOW YOU ARE BUSY, BUT IF YOU CAN HELP US STAY ON THE GERMANE PRETTY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE BUILDING. I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ME BUILDING. >> I TALKED ABOUT AS WE MENTIONED IT.> COMMISSIONER GONZALES, WOULD YOU LIKE SOME MORE DISCUSSION WITH REGARDS TO THE HISTORY OF THE ME BUILDING? YOU ARE DONE, THAT IS VERY GOOD. >> JUDGE: AGAIN, WE CANNOT CHOOSE SEE OKAY LIKE WE CAN. WE WANT TO GET RFQ ESTABLISHED. WE WILL SEE THAT BACK HERE AT SOME POINT IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. ALL RIGHT.ELL, I HAVE TO VOTE. BUT THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND. DID WE ALREADY TESTIS WE HAVE NOT VOTED. LORENZO, IN THE SUN THERE IS A MOTION TO THE RFQ TO THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S FACILITY AND SIGNIFY BY SAYING HI. OKAY. WANT TO STICK AROUND. YOU'VE GOT ONE MORE HERE. NO? OKAY. [6. Receive information from Public Works regarding removal of driveway along CR 52 at 3645 CR 52B (Valley View Dr.).] COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ IS A NO. OKAY. >> GOOD? THEN ON ITEM NUMBER SIX ÃONE YOU'VE GOT A PRESENTATION REGARDING THE DRIVEWAY ON COUNTY ROAD 52 3645. AND IT'S REALLY COUNTY ROAD 52 AT 3645 COUNTY ROAD 50 2B. AT VALLEY VIEW DRIVE. >> YES JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. JUST A QUICK PRESENTATION OF THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY. THAT ONE. THIS ONE IS JUST TESTIS THE MAP OF THE AREA. THERE IS A YELLOW LOCATION THIS IS WHERE THE DRIVER IS GETTING TO THE LEFT RIGHT THERE IN THE COUNTY. THIS IS ON COUNTY ROAD 52. WHICH TIES INTO FM 18 NINE Ãà WHICH IS AN ALTERNATE ROUTE FROM 364. WHEN IT GETS CONGESTED OR NOT WITH THE GROWTH OUT THERE AND NORTHWEST BOULEVARD ÃÃTHIS IS THE ALTERNATE ROUTE THAT CONSTITUENTS TAKE ON 52. PART OF THIS ROAD BELONGS TO US AND THEN AS YOU GO TO SIX NIGHT AT THE EAST TESTIS IT BELONGS TO THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. WE CAN GET TO THE NEXT ONE IN THE COUNTY? HIS IS THE BASE MATERIAL FROM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT PLACED THEIR DRIVEWAY THAT IS GOING FROM ARRANGE GATE TO COUNTY ROAD 52. THIS WAS DISCOVERED BACK IN THE WAS OCTOBER NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR. WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER. THIS IS AN ILLEGAL SUBDIVISION. IT WAS NEVER PLOTTED AND THEY WENT THROUGH OUR SUBDIVISION RULES. IT DOESN'T MEET OUR SUBDIVISION RULES REQUIREMENT FOR THE ACCESS IS SUPPOSED TO BE GOING BACK TO THE AERIAL COUNTY. SO, THIS SHOULD BE OFF OF VALLEY VIEW DRIVE. THE ACCESS SHOULD COME OFF OF VALLEY VIEW DRIVE IF IT HAD BEEN PLATTED AT THE TIME TESTIS WE WOULD'VE RECOMMENDED AND TALKED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET ACCESS FROM VALLEY VIEW. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE MINUTE TALK TO THAT ONE TIME. NEXT PICTURE PLEASE? NEXT ONE. YOU CAN SEE NOW THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER HAS ALREADY PROVIDED ACCESS TO HIS PROPERTY IN THE BACK. AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THE RUNNING AND THE WATER STANDING AND CREATING DRAINAGE ISSUES. THEY ARE TYING INTO THE DRIVEWAY TO THE RIGHT. THE PROPERTY OWNER CREATED. JUERGEN HAVE MULTIPLE ACCESS TEST CAN BE TIED INTO THE DRIVEWAY. NEXT ONE PLEASE? AND THEN THE PROPERTY OWNER ADJACENT TO HIM IS ALSO CREATING THEIR OWN DRIVEWAY TO COUNTY ROAD 52. SO, WE ARE HAVING MORE LEGAL ACCESS TO COUNTY ROAD 52. ONCE YOU START GETTING MARTIN ON THE ROAD, IT CREATES A MUDDY SURFACE ON THE ROADWAY ITSELF. [05:05:03] WE ARE HAVING THE POTENTIAL ACCIDENTS OUT THERE. IT IS A HAZARD. NEXT ONE PLEASE? THIS IS TRAFFIC. I JUST WANT TO TAKE THE PICTURE OF THE TRAFFIC ON 52. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS AN ALTERNATE ROUTE FROM NORTHWEST BOULEVARD 624. EVERYBODY COMES AND IN THE AFTERNOON. EVERYBODY ACTS AS U.S. 77 AND THEY TAKE THIS ROUTE TO BYPASS THE CONDITION AIRY ON 620 APRIL 2, 1977 TO FM 89. NEXT PICTURE PLEASE? THIS IS ONCOMING TRAFFIC WHERE THE DRIVEWAY IS AT. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS A LOT OF TESTIS VEHICULAR TRAFFIC THERE. TO THE FAR END, EC NUECES ELECTRIC. I KNOW I'M TALKING TO THE CO OUT THERE. AVON TOLD ME WITH THE NORTH COMMISSIONER HE INFORMED US THAT TESTIS PROPERLY INSTALLED AND HAVING RESIDENTIAL ACCESS TO MAJOR THOROUGHFARE AS A HAZARD. NEXT ONE PLEASE? THIS IS JUST LOOKING AT EAST FROM 1889 TO 52. AS YOU CAN SEE TESTIS THE ONCOMING TRAFFIC GOING AND TRYING TO ACCESS 77. SO, THIS IS AS THEY SAID AN ALTERNATE ROUTE. IT IS A CONDITIONED AREA AND IT IS A POTENTIAL FOR AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN. NOW WITH THE PEOPLE SIGNING IN TO THE DRIVEWAY ITSELF TESTIS AND I SUBMITTED A LETTER IN THE NEXT ONE. I'VE SEEN THE LETTER. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE COORDINATED WITH COUNTY ATTORNEY SINCE DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR. AND ALSO COORDINATED WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER. AGAIN, IT'S NOT PLATTED TO OUR SUBDIVISION RULES. AND I KNOW THIS IS TO RECEIVE INFORMATION. BUT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE. PART OF THE WORKS IS RECOMMENDED FOR THIS DRIVER TO BE REMOVED. THIS POTENTIAL FOR ACCIDENT HAPPEN. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNTY AND PUBLIC WORKS ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE. IF SOMETHING HAPPENS OUT THERE. THANK YOU. >> YOUR HONOR, THIS IS RANDY HILL. I AM THE ATTORNEY FOR GARRETT MILLER. I JUST GOT A NOTE THAT Y'ALL ARE DISCUSSING THIS. I WAS ON ALL MORNING. >> I'M SORRY. STILL, WERE YOU ABLE TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS JUST GIVEN TO US BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR? >> I KIND OF CAME IN LATE. BUT I RECOGNIZE SOME THE PICTURES THAT I GUESS AT THE END THERE. I GUESS ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS ANNOUNCED TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. I DO REPRESENT MR. MILLER. I'VE BEEN RETAINED BY THE TITLE COMPANY. THIS IS AN ISSUE. IF HE DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS Ãà HAS PROPERTIES UNLOCKED. HE IS NOT ACCESS TO 50 2B. AND I'M TRYING TO BACK INTO THAT. I BEEN TALKING TO JENNY DORSEY ON THIS. I JUST CAME IN ABOUT 30 DAYS AGO. AND I HAVE GREAT RETAINED A SURVEYOR, BECAUSE I NEED TO GET AN IDEA OF WHERE THE LINES ARE AND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. I WANT TO TRY AND GET THIS RESOLVED AND I WOULD BE GLAD TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY. ALL I'M ASKING FOR IS SOME TIME HERE. SO I DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND GET A TRO. BECAUSE OF THE DRIVEWAY IS TAKEN UP ÃÃHE HAS NO ACCESS. THE MAIN ÃJUST THE ARTISTS OR TITLE AS THE CONCERTS. THEY SOLD THE NORTH HALF AND THEN HAD THE BACK HALF SURVEYED. MY CLIENT MR. MILLER PURCHASED IT. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT ÃÃI MEAN ÃÃTHIS IS CERTAINLY NOT THE ONLY DRIVEWAY OUT THERE. UT AT THE SAME TIME ÃÃI MEAN ÃÃAND LIKE I SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY ON THIS THING. BUT I JUST NEED SOME TIME BECAUSE WE STARTED SURVEYING TO GIVE ME SOME INFORMATION AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I COULD COME BACK AND MEET WITH JENNY DORSEY AND ALSO PUBLIC WORKS PEOPLE. AND SEE IF WE CAN'T COME TO SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION HERE. OVER THIS TRACT IS NOT LANDLOCKED. AND I CAN'T. I'M JUST ASKING FOR SOME TIME. I CANNOT ÃÃI UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS THAT THE COUNTY HAS. AND I'M JUST ASKING FOR THEM TO GIVE US SOME TIME HERE. [05:10:02] >> MAY ASK A QUESTION MR. HELP OR MAYBE MR. PATEL CAN ANSWER. IF HE KNOWS ÃÃTHE DRIVEWAY LEADS TO A HOME, CORRECT? >> DRIVEWAY ÃÃMY CLIENT PURCHASED THAT LOT I THINK THERE'S JUST A SHED THERE. IT IS A BUILDING THAT HAS BEEN BUILT THAT HE IS RESTORED. I THINK HIS BOAT AND RV AND AT THIS POINT. AND I'VE EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT WE COULD ACTUALLY PAVE THE AREA THERE IF THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT THE ÃÃCOMING ON THE COUNTY ROAD. AND HE DOES NOT LIVE THERE. NOW THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT BROUGHT THE NORTH HALF OF THIS LOT ÃÃTHAT IS WHERE THE HOUSE IS.> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. SO, WHAT IS WHAT YOU REQUESTED IS. TO HAVE SOME TIME TO COME UP WITH AN ALTERNATE PLAN THAT YOU COULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM WHERE THE DRIVEWAY ÃTHIS WEEKEND BE IN COMPLIANCE. OR YOU CAN BE IN COMPLIANCE AND WE COULD BE IN COMPLIANCE. AND TO CREATE AN ALTERNATE ROUTE IN, IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE THINKING? >> THAT MIGHT BE WHAT IT IS. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S AN ALTERNATE ROUTE IN ORDER TESTIS WE'RE GONNA FIGURE OUT SOMETHING HERE. BECAUSE I CANNOT HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAS NO ACCESS. AND HE HAS NO ACCESS TO 50 2B AT THIS POINT. AT THIS POINT, I THINK IT'S WHATEVER THE DRIVE IS THERE THAT MAKES A SALUTE THERE. SO, HE'S NOT LIVING THERE AND IS NOT GOING IN AND OUT. AT THE SAME TIME, I CANNOT HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAS NO ACCESS.> WOULD HE BE WILLING IN THE TIME THAT YOU ARE THINKING CANNOT USE THE DRIVEWAY AT ALL SO THAT WE CAN CARE OUR SAFETY HAZARD FOR 30 DAYS? WHILE HE IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A PLAN? WHAT HE NEEDED TO ACCESS THE SHIP FOR THE NEXT 30 DAYS? WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO ÃÃI DON'T KNOW, SET FORTH A SAFETY PLAN SO THAT THE CONCERN THAT JUAN PIMENTEL AND PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR HAS COULD BE REMEDIED? IN OTHER WORDS, I HEAR YOU AND I AM ALSO TRYING TO HELP HERE. BUT ALSO, WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE SOME AGREEMENT THAT YOU KNOW, WE COULD PUT THE SIGN UP OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD PROTECT THE COUNTY WHILE YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO DETERMINE A REMEDY. >> I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE A PROBLEM WITH IT. I'M SURE COMES WITH SOME PLAN. LIKE I SAID, HE'S NOT LIVING THERE. I THINK THE BIGGER PROBLEM IS THE JOINING TRACT. I GUESS I SAW A PICTURE AT THE VERY END THERE THAT THE JOINT TRACK AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY BEEN CONTACTED ABOUT ÃÃTHAT IS THE BIGGER ISSUE WHETHER THEIR COMING DOWN AND MAKING THREATS. AND COMING ONTO ÃÃI MEAN, WE HAVE COLLEGIATE. I THINK MR. MILLER HAS PUT COLLEGIATE DOWN. I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS AND I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO ÃÃTHAT A JOINT PROPERTY RIGHT THERE THAT'S COMING DOWN ÃÃDOWN AND MAKING RATS AND THEN COMING OVER. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY BEEN MAKING CONTENT OR NOT. BUT THEY OWN THE ENTIRE LOT. N OTHER WORDS, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO 50 2B. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO REASON WHY THEY ARE COMING DOWN AND COMING OVER TO MY CLIENTS COLLEGIATE RATE AND COMING OUT 52. BECAUSE MY INTERSTATE AND I TESTIS I ASKED THEM TO LOOK AT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ADJOINING LOTS OWNS THE ENTIRE LOT THAT GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO IT AND HAS ACCESS TO 52 ÃB. >> JUDGE, CAN I SAY SOMETHING? I DID TALK TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER. HE DID INFORM ME THAT MR. MILLER HAD GIVEN HIM AUTHORIZATION TO ACCESS HIS DRIVEWAY. S A MATTER FACT, HE'S GOING TO PUT THE COLLEGIAN FIRM AND FOR THE GENTLEMAN NEXT DOOR. AS FOR THE GEMMA NEXT-DOOR TOLD ME. THEY ARE CRATING ACCESS TO THIS GENTLEMAN'S DRIVEWAY. >> THAT IS THE FIRST I HEARD OF THAT. I MET WITH MY CLIENT AT THEIR AND HE DID NOT MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT ANYONE HAVING AUTHORITY à ÃAS A MATTER FACT, HE'S UPSET ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING AROUND AND GETTING UP ON THAT COLLEGIATE ON HIS COLLEGIATE ROUTE. I CAN CERTAINLY CONFIRM THAT AND I WOULD BE GLAD TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT. THAT SEEMS TO BE. >> YES SIR.E GIVE ME A CALL. GEMMA GAVE ME A CALL AND TOLD ME THAT THE AUTHORIZED IT. >> I CANNOT SPEAK. I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT. CERTAINLY, I DON'T SEE WHY YOU WOULD HAVE THEM. >> SUMMARY MADE CONTACT WITH THEM ALSO. >> WANT, YES SIR. >> HAVE YOU MADE CONTACT WITH THE PEOPLE THEY TALK ABOUT? >> I'M ASKING ÃTHIS IS CLIENT [05:15:06] IS NOT SUPPOSED TO USED THE DRIVEWAY FOR CERTAIN AMOUNT TIME FOR SAFETY PURPOSES. WAY TO THE CLINIC. >> THAT I WAS SUGGESTING. I WAS SUGGESTING THAT. >> THAT IS FINE. IT ALSO ÃÃWE SHOULD LET THE OTHER PEOPLE. >> COMMISSIONER PLEASE SPEAK IN YOUR MICROPHONE. >> WE SHOULD LET THE OTHER PEOPLE NOT TO USE THOSE DRIVES BECAUSE OF SAFETY REASONS PAID. >> YES SIR. >> YOU UNDERSTAND MY LETTER ALSO. IN THE COUNTY. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS CLEAR THAT MY CLIENT DID RECEIVE A LETTER AND IN THE PROCESS AND IN TERMS Ãà HE IS NOT DONE ANYTHING. ACTUALLY, LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN RETAINED TO REPRESENT HIM IN THE TITLE POLICY TO TRY AND FIGURE THIS THING OUT AND I'M IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET THAT DONE AND IN THE MEANTIME, CERTAINLY NO ONE IS DESIRING TO DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE UNSAFE AND I'M SURE THAT MY CLIENT WOULD BE REASONABLE I'M SURE HE WOULD, SOME KIND OF PLAN. WE ALSO ÃÃI CAN CHECK WITH HIM ON THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S ÃIF IT'S A MATTER TESTIS ONE, I DON'T THINK WE HAD THE AUTHORITY TO SAY JUST COME ON UP. I WILL MAKE SURE OF THAT. I DON'T THINK HE HAS GRANTED AUTHORITY OR ANYBODY. BUT I WILL MAKE SURE THAT HE IS NOT. AND I CAN GET BACK WITH AND I APOLOGIZE. I GOT STARTED LATE HERE. I DID NOT KNOW WHO IS PRESENTING. IT'S REALLY SMALL LITTLE PICTURE ON THE SCREEN. I DON'T KNOW WHO IS PRESENTING. >> THAT IS OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR MR. JUAN PIMENTEL. HE CAN REJECT YOU AND GIVE YOU HIS CONTACT. BUT ONE, WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS? THAT AND YOU ARE WELCOME TO PUT WHATEVER SIGN YOU FEEL IN THAT THE COUNTY HAS A RIGHT TO PUT UP THERE TO SAY THAT NO ACCESS WORK NOT TESTIS WHATEVER YOU WANT TO PUT. >> WE CAN PUT A ROAD CLOSURE. >> JUDGE, HE DOES MOVE IT OR THEY MOVE IT SOMETHING HAPPENS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY à ÃWE DON'T HAVE THE RESPONSIBLE HE IS A COUNTY IF SOMETHING HAPPENS OUT THERE. N OTHER WORDS, WE WILL PUT THE BARRICADES ÃÃI JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THE OWNER DECIDES TO MOVE THIS BARRICADES. >> THAT'S A HYPOTHETICAL DIFFERENT TESTIS IN THE MR. HELP WOULD AGREE THAT WOULD BE A VERY POOR CHOICE OF ACTIONS IF HIS CLIENT WERE TO MOVE A BARRICADE THAT THE COUNTY PLACED. DON'T YOU THINK MR. HILL? >> THAT IS FINE. I GUESS I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT MY CLIENT DOES HAVE PROPERTY THERE. THAT HE HAS TO PROTECT. HE'S GOT TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS IT IN SOME WAY. NOT NECESSARILY IN AND OUT AND HAS SOME LIMITED. TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO TESTIS HE'S GOT PERSONAL PROPERTY THAT IS STORED IN THE BUILDING THAT HE CANNOT JUST LEAVE OUT THERE. I THINK THAT, HOW GONNA WORK THAT OUT. >> YES. >> I WILL TELL YOU WHAT. YOU ARE RIGHT COMMISSIONER. IT IS A RECEIVED INFORMATION TODAY ONLY. >> JUDGE: I SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER COURT ON AUGUST 29. IF YOU CAN PLEASE GET TOGETHER WITH HIM IMMEDIATELY. OKAY? WITH MR. HILL. AND SEE IF YOU TAKE THE ACTIONS THAT YOU THINK ARE NEEDED AND PLEASE WORK WITH MR. HELP SO THAT YOU CAN ACHIEVE BOTH THANKS. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IS REMINDING ME THAT WE ARE ON A FAST TRACK AND I DO APOLOGIZE WANT. WE DO NEED TO MOVE ON. MR. HILL, MR. PIMENTEL'S CAN REACH OUT TO YOU. THERE IS A WAY TO SEND MESSAGES I THINK ON THIS. YOU JUST NEED TO CALL PUBLIC WORKS AND MAYBE YOU CAN SEND AN EMAIL INSIDE OUR CHAT HERE. >> JENNY DORSEY HAS ALL MY CONTACTS. >> NEVERMIND. SHE IS ALL OF OUR CONTACT INFORMATION. >> THANK YOU. >> JUDGE, JUST WITH COORDINATION OF THE ATTORNEY à ÃI JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. >> EXCUSE ME JUDGE? >> YES SIR.> ONLY TO APOLOGIZE. ONLY TO RESCIND MY VOTE FROM NUMBER FIVE. >> PLEASE SPEAK INTO YOUR MICROPHONE COMMISSIONER? >> I WOULD LIKE TO RECENT MY VOTE PLEASE. >> YOU TO CHANGE YOUR VOTE ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE? >> YES. >> JUDGE: OKAY. >> THANK YOU. >> JUDGE: OKAY. HE WANTS TO CHANGE THE NO TS. OKAY, MR. JUAN. THANK YOU MR. HILL. [1. Discuss and consider suspending the medical insurance premiums for one (1) pay period in the month of September 2022 for both employer and employee.] >> THANK YOU JUDGE. >> JUDGE: SO THAT WE CAN GET TO THE IMPORTANT THINGS HERE. WE'VE GOT AN ITEM, DALE, THAT YOU BROUGHT LAST TIME REGARDING THE SUSPENSION OF THE MEDICAL INSURANCE PREMIUMS FOR ONE PAY PERIOD. WE BELIEVE THIS IS IN OUR BEST INTEREST. WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF DOLLARS AND YOU ARE RECOMMENDING THIS? [05:20:02] >> YES YOUR HONOR. WHEN WE WERE DOING OUR EVALUATIONS OF THE BUDGET ITEMS, WE WERE PROPOSING AND ESTIMATING A POSSIBLE LOSS OF RESERVES IN THE GENERAL FUND. AND WITH 1.7 MILLION REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE ARPA FUNDS TO OUR SELF-INSURANCE FUND, WILL HAVE SIGNIFICANT FUND BALANCE IN OUR SELF INSURANCE FUND. WE ARE SELF-INSURED SO THE INSURANCE PAYMENT WOULD GO TO US TO PAY THE BILLS. SO, WOULD BE ABLE TO SAVE SOME MONEY ON THE FUNDS. I'M ASKING THE COURT TO ALLOW US TO SUSPEND MEDICAL INSURANCE PAYMENT FROM THIS SONATA FORM $50,000 FACT. >> JUDGE, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND. >> THERE IS A SECOND. >> I WILL SECOND. OKAY. >> JUDGE: GONZALES WILL SECOND AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY MISSING EYE. >> I. >> WOULD YOU MIND? GO AHEAD. >> IS MASAO MOVE PASSAGE ITEMS TWO AND THREE AND REVIEWED THEM AND I THINK EVERYBODY ELSE HAS WITHOUT PRESENTATION. >> JUDGE: I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN THAT MOTION AS EVERYBODY ÃÃIF THERE'S ANYTHING ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CHANGE ORDER FOR DALE ÃÃTHIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME. THERE IS A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND TO APPROVE THE BUDGET CHANGE ORDER? >> TWO AND THREE JUDGE. >> JUDGE: I'M SORRY [2. Approve Budget Change Order No. 18 for Fiscal Year 2021-2022.] COMMISSIONER. YOU SAID THAT. TWO AND THREE. >> YES. I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE IT. >> JUDGE: IT WILL BE BOTH PRETTY PEAK CARD IN THE BUDGET CHANGE. THERE IS A MOTION ON A SECOND. S THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> I. >> AND JULIE, ITEMS ONE AND TWO ARE RELATABLE AS THEY SAY. [13. Discuss and consider using American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds for prisoner inmate housing FY 21-22; discuss and consider using ARPA funds for prisoner inmate transportation FY 21-22.] RELATED. THEY HAVE TO DO WITH CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION FOR ONE.> JUDGE, CAN I DO SOMETHING REAL QUICK? >> I DAY IT IS SINGLY TO BRING BACK AN ITEM IS NUMBER 13. >> ON 13? >> THE FISCAL YEAR IS CORRECT. >> FISCAL YEARS 22 AND 23. >> JUDGE: THIS WAS POST BE FOR NEXT YEAR. >> NO, BECAUSE WHEN WE ADOPTED THE BUDGET FOR 21 AND 22 Ãà THEY SAID WE'RE GONNA BE USING THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FOR HOUSING AND TRANSPORT. IS THAT CORRECT DALE? >> THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE BUDGET ITEM, BUT WE HAVE THE ORIGINAL DISCUSSION OF USING ARPA FUNDS FOR 21 AND 22. SO, IF IT DOES GET TO CONTINUE ON IF WE HAVE HOUSING IN 22 AND 53, WE SHOULD CONTINUE DOING IT. >> I WOULD'VE AMENDED THAT WE WOULD JUST BE CLEAR THAT 2122 AND 22 AND 23. THAT IS MY MOTION. >> THAT'S OKAY. >> WENT TO THE OTHER. >> RIGHT. >> YOU CAN CALL CLARITY PLUS. X 30+. >> I WILL TAKE THAT MOTION AND I WILL SECOND THAT. AND ALL IS IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY [1. Discuss and consider recommending to the Civil Service Commission to suspend the maximum accrual of vacation hours under the rule of 4.21 of the Civil Service Rules for the fiscal year 2021-2022.] SAYING HI. >> I. >> LET'S MAKE IT CLEAR LORENZO. IT'S THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR. OUSING TRANSPORTATION. >> OKAY. >> IN THE ITEM JULIE THAT YOU ARE HERE ON THE LAST OF THE DAY IS THE RECOMMENDATION FOR CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION. TO SUSPEND THE MAXIMUM ACCRUED VACATIONS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR. ÃÃONE IS FOR THE CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES AND ONE WOULD BE FOR THE REST. >> CORRECT. >> GO AHEAD. IT'S A RECOMMENDATION TO DO SO. >> YES IT IS. >> IT WOULD BE FOR WHAT TIME PERIOD? >>. >> WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION? >> LEAVE IT OPEN FOR YEARS WITH THEM RECOMMENDING THAT WE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE NEXT YEAR. ALONG THOSE EMPLOYEES TO NOT LOSE ANY OF THEIR POWERS OVER 240 AT THIS TIME. >> JUDGE, THERE IS SOME FINANCIAL IMPACT ON THIS. LIKE SIGNIFICANT. WE BELIEVE THAT OPEN. >> WILL BE DISPENSE, BECAUSE THIS IS ACTUALLY A VACATION LEAVE. THIS IS A YEAR AND IN AN ACCRUED BALANCE. THE COUNT IS ABSENCES. IT IS OF A POTENTIAL LIABILITY AND POTENTIAL BALANCE EFFECT. IT DOES ÃÃIT COULD SHOW A LARGER IMPACT. >> I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH LARGER, BUT IF WE GO ABOVE 240 AND DEPENDS ON THE NUMBER OF THE HOURS ÃÃIT COULD BE SIGNIFICANT TO. >> WHY CAN'T WE ACTUALLY ADDRESS THE ACTUAL EMPLOYEES NEED TO TAKE VACATION? I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO, PARTICULARLY LIKE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.ND IN OTHER CRITICAL AREAS BY DOING A HYBRID? WHAT YOU LITERALLY SAY HEY, WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME EXTENSION, BUT YOU NEED TO USE IT BY A CERTAIN DATE AND I DO, YOU CAN LIMIT YOUR LIABILITY AND STILL HEALTHY EMPLOYEE Ãà BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO TAKE ANY VACATION. THIS IS SOMETHING. >> FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS COME FORWARD AND LOOK AT THE AA CONTINUATION AND YOU'VE ALLOWED LAW ENFORCEMENT. THIS TIME, I WOULD JULIE IS ASKING FOR THE ENTIRE CANDY. NOT JUST LAW ENFORCEMENT. >> JUDGE: IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE NEED A POLICY. >> THERE IS A POLICY. >> JUDGE: RIGHT, I FEEL THAT WE [05:25:05] NEED TO DEVELOP AWAY. YOU ARE IN A PICKLE, RIGHT? OU HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE. >> ABOUT 20 PERCENT OF PEOPLE ARE EMPLOYEES. >> JUDGE: GIVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF VACATION. >> I DAY, YOU GIVE ME SOME NUMBERS. HOW MUCH IS THIS GONNA TEST THIS SOMEBODY'S GONNA NEED NUMBERS. >> JUDGE: THIS IS A POTENTIAL LIABILITY PEOPLE ÃÃGO AHEAD. >> THIS IS A LIABILITY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO ACCRUE FOR THAT VACATION. >> JUDGE: THEY EARNED AND WE BUDGETED FOR. >> RIGHT, THE WAY I SEE. >> I'M ASKING I DAY. >> I KNOW THAT WE HAVE APPROVED IN THE PRINTED APPROVE. WE HAVE HELPED EVERYBODY. BUT NOW YOU ARE ASKING TO GO FOR A WHOLE ANOTHER YEAR. >> I'M NOT YET. >> THAT'S ÃÃSHE WAS.HAT IS AN ADULT LIABILITY. SO I DO NOT HAVE ANY NUMBERS IN MY BOOK. DAY I SUBMIT SOMETHING I SAID OKAY, GIVE ME SOME NUMBERS. BUT I DO NOT HAVE THEM. AGAIN, HOW DO I MAKE A DECISION? >> I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IS CAN BE COMPENSATED FOR NEXT YEAR. THAT IS ALSO ÃÃTHAT IS NOT SOMETHING I ASKED AND REMEMBER, BECAUSE THE COURT APPROVED THAT LIMIT INCREASE ÃÃIT'S CAN AFFECT THAT AS WELL. IT'S CAN HAVE SOME IMPACT. >> JUDGE: ON THE BOOKS IT HAS à ÃIN THE SUN ON THE BOOKS Ãà IT HAS A FISCAL IMPACT. HAS A GREATER FISCAL IMPACT OF THIS COUNTY BY NOT LETTING PEOPLE TAKE VACATIONS. WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO IS ENCOURAGE. >> AGAIN. WE HAVE NO BACKUP. >> JUDGE: > AGAIN, ON AN ITEM THAT HAS POTENTIAL FINANCIAL IMPLICATION, WE ARE BEING ASKED TO MAKE A DECISION WITH NO BACKUP. REPEATEDLY. THIS IS A PROBLEM. THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT I CAN WING IT ON. THERE ARE SOME ITEMS I CAN OVERLOOK AND SAY HEY, OKAY. LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD. I HOPE THIS IS $10,000, $1 MILLION, FIVE DOLLARS, I HAVE NOTHING IN MY AGENDA BECAUSE AGAIN, I'M NOT GONNA LET YOU TURN THIS INTO JUDGE. ONE OF THE PEOPLE TAKE VACATIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE REPEATEDLY DONE THIS. WE HAD ROLLED OVER AND ROLLED OVER. WE HAVE ADDED VACATIONS. WITH ADDED HOLIDAY SPIRIT WE BEEN SUPER KIND. WE ARE LOOKING AT SIX PERCENT COLA. I'M GONNA LET PEOPLE TAKE VACATIONS. I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS. I'M NOT SAYING NO. 'M SAYING GIVE ME SOME NUMBERS SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FINANCIAL IMPLICATION IS AND AS WE SIT HERE, IT CANNOT BE DEALT OFF THE TOP OF HIS HEAD SAYING THAT IT MIGHT BE THIS. >> JUDGE: GUYS. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, IN FAIRNESS, IN FAIRNESS, THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AT THE COURT MANAGERS LEVEL AND AT THE AUDITORS LEVEL FOR MONTHS. >> NOT HERE IT HASN'T! I DON'T CARE IF IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AT THEIR LEVEL. >> JUDGE: IF IT'S GETTING POSTED ANYONE INFORMATION AND YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT THERE, I THINK THERE'S SORT OF A DUTY TO ASK FOR. >> JUDGE, ALL THE RESPECT, THERE IS A DUTY TO GIVE ME INFORMATION. LET ME SHOW YOU MY AGENDA. >> JUDGE: PLEASE GIVE THEM INFORMATION. >> THIS IS IT. IT'S ZERO ÃNOTHING. I AM TIRED OF THIS. I RECEIVED I'M TIRED OF ASKING FOR THIS. IN SOME WAYS CAN ASK FOR SOMETHING AS A LARGE FINANCIAL IMPLICATION, WHICH THIS APPARENTLY COULD, THEN IT'S NOT FAIR TO ASK THIS COURT TO MAKE THAT DECISION AND MAKE US TRY TO LOOK BAD BECAUSE YOU WANT TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE WE DON'T WANT TO GET PEOPLE VACATIONS. I'VE NOT MADE A DECISION IN THIS. IF YOU MAKE ME MAKE ONE TODAY THEN FINE. I WILL MAKE A DECISION, BUT I'M SAYING THAT WE SHOULD TABLE THIS UNTIL SOMEBODY COULD GIVE ME AN APPLICATION. IT MIGHT BE $5000 AND IT MIGHT BE A BIG DEAL. BUT IF IT'S $1 MILLION ÃÃTHEN THIS PUBLIC TEST IS THE PUBLIC THAT WE SERVE HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WE ARE NOT INFORMED TODAY AND THIS IS FRUSTRATING. SO, I AM MAKING A MOTION TO TABLE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING UNTIL SOMEBODY GIVE ME THE INFORMATION THAT I NEED TO MAKE A DECISION. >> I THINK THERE ARE TWO THINGS YOU CAN DO IT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION. BUDGETING WITH DALE AND ALL THAT. E ARE LOOKING EITHER VACATION TIME OR SIX PERCENT. SIX PERCENT IS GONNA SAVE WITH YOU FOREVER. VACATION TIME, YOU CAN USE IT AND IT'S GONE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN AFFORD BOTH OF THEM. YOU KNOW? WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK AND SEE THAT JUST MUCH BIGGER TO BE. WITH PAY. BECAUSE IF WE USED SIX PERCENT NOW AND YOU'VE A YEAR TO TAKE A VACATION, YOU CAN HAVE A LOT MORE MONEY. >> IS A 30 BUDGETED AT SIX PERCENT. >> WHAT IT'S GONNA BE. >> JUDGE: IS NOT. >> WE HAVE A SIX PERCENT INCREASE. >> JUDGE: IS TALKING ABOUT THE COLA INCREASE. >> YOU TALK ABOUT THE COLA INCREASE? WHAT YOU WANT TO DO? >> YES, WHEN YOU TAKE VACATION HOURS, THOSE ARE HOURS ALREADY BUDGETED FOR YOUR SALARY AT THE NEW SIX PERCENT COLA. >> HOW CAN IT BE AT THE NEW ONE? >> INSTEAD OF ME WORKING 40 HOURS THIS WEEK AND YOU PAY ME THAT SALARY.> WHERE'S THE ANALYSIS JULIE? CAN YOU GIVE ME THAT? OTHER THAN TELLING ME THAT? I CANNOT DIGEST WHAT YOU'RE GIVING ME WITHOUT HAVING IN FRONT OF ME. SO, DALE HAS THIS COMPENSATED [05:30:01] ACCESS TO STUFF AND IT TALKS ABOUT WE ALREADY HAVE LIABILITY OF 2.5 MILLION AND COMPENSATED AS OF 930 AND 2021. OKAY? >> I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT NUMBER. >> IT'S GREAT TO KNOW. I'M JUST LOOKING AT WHAT'S IN MY BOOK. AND IF YOU DIDN'T LOOK AT HUMAN RESOURCES BACKGROUND ÃÃIT DID NOT LOOK AT IT FREE CAME IN HERE, I'M REALLY SORRY. BUT IT'S IN THERE. >> WHY DON'T YOU PICK. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. >> WHAT PAGER YOU WANT? >> UNDER D1 I'VE COMPENSATED ABSENCES AND UNDER D TO I'VE NOTHING. >> ON D1. >> SUMMARY COMPENSATED ASSET LIABILITY AS OF 2021. 9:30. THAT IS GREAT. BUT IT DOES NOT TELL ME WHAT THIS DECISION TODAY IS, UNLESS I'M NOT READING IT RIGHT, DALE, YOU CAN CORRECT ME FOR NOT READING IT RIGHT. IT DOES NOT ONLY WITH THE ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES OF THIS DECISION TODAY ARE. >> COMMISSIONER, RIGHT NOW THE ONLY INFORMATION YOU HAVE IS WHAT OUR LAST ANALYSIS WAS BASED ON. WE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE YOU Ãà AND WE WOULD SUGGEST STAY WITH US ÃÃWHAT WOULD THE EFFECT BE IF WE CONTINUE OUR OVERRATE IF WE SUSPEND THE RATE? WE GIVE YOU THOSE DIFFERENCES. >> JULIE, I TIGHTLY COUPLED THE OTHER DEPARTMENT AS THEY CAME ON HERE AND I WAS ON I DAY BETTER TODAY. IF YOU GIVE ME AN AGENDA ITEM WITH NO BACKGROUND, THAT IS ON YOU IF YOU DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO DECIDE ON IT. HIS IS NOT WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. AND I WILL TAKE IT TO THE DAY BEFORE. SOMETIMES I GET IT IN THE MORNING AND I CAN LOOK AT IT WHILE HIM HAVING A MEETING. STILL DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. THAT IS JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE. SO AGAIN, AND I APOLOGIZE. I GUESS WE DISCUSSED IT WHEN WE SHOULDN'T. IF I NEED TO RESEND WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO DISCUSS. I'M NOT TRYING TO SQUASH THE DISCUSSION. I'M TRYING TO MOVE THIS TO THE NEXT DEAL. I RESENT MY MOTION SO SOMEONE CAN WEIGH IN, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT SO THAT WE CAN DO THAT. SO, JUST LET ME KNOW. OTHERWISE I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE AND GET INFORMATION. >> JUDGE: MOTION AND A SECOND [3. Discuss and consider Fire Marshal Job Description.] TO TABLE ITEMS ONE AND TWO FOR AUGUST 29. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?EARING NOT, ACTUALLY, THERE IS NO DISCUSSION. ALL IS IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> I. >> OKAY. CAN WE DO JUST A QUICK LITTLE LOOK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE COMPLETED ÃÃI NOTICED THAT THE GENERAL INFORMATION TEST IS THE ONE THING LOUIS WANTED ME TO INFORM YOU IS THE BURN BAN THE ENDS TODAY. AND SO, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS IMPORTANT. OBVIOUSLY, WE ALL HAD OUR UP-TO-DATE.HERE IS LOUIS. LOUIS. WE'RE SORT OF OUT OF OUR TIME. UT BESIDES THE BURN BAN, IS THERE ANYTHING NOTEWORTHY THAT WE NEED TO KNOW FROM GENERAL INFORMATION REGARDING EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT? >> NOT JUDGE. BUT THE BURN BAN DOESN'T END UNTIL SEPTEMBER 6. THAT IS WHEN THEY CEASE-FIRES. >> I'M SORRY. >> ELECTED THE EARLIER WHILE WE HAVE ÃÃIT ALLOWS THOSE PEOPLE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS IN THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE COUNTY TO BURN LARGE STUFF. FEELS THAT THEY HAVE WHILE THE GROUND IS WET. I BELIEVE THAT THIS WEEK AND THIS WEEK, THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE BEST TIME TO DO THAT LEARNING. I THINK THAT THE KPI IS GONNA GO BACK UP IN SEPTEMBER. >> MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT Ãà I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE THE ABILITY INSIDE THIS REPORT. TO HAVE THE BURN BAN ADDRESSED. JENNY. IN ORDER TO LIFT IT. >> I BELIEVE ÃÃAND I TALKED WITH MR. RAYMOND ABOUT THIS. F THE CONDITIONS ARE BETTER à ÃI DON'T THINK YOU NEED A VOTE. IT'S JUST A NOTICE. >> OKAY. OUR OFFICE WILL JUST ISSUE Ãà THE REPORT IS THAT OUR OFFICE WILL ISSUE DK BDI HAS INCREASED AS PER THE ORDER. THE ORDER HAS A CERTAIN ORDER. IT'S NO LONGER VALID GIVEN THAT THE K BDI IS LOWER AND WE CAN GO DOWN. OKAY. LOUIS, YOU CAN GET THAT NOTICE OUT THEN. >> OKAY JUDGE. NO PROBLEM.> SO, WHAT ABOUT ADJOURNMENTS AND MEMORY? >> JUDGE, WE STILL HAVE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. >> WHICH IS THE ONE THEN? >> WE NEED TO BRING BACK AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE. IS THAT CORRECT? >> WE HAVE TWO. >> NUMBER TWO FIRST. 382 ABOUT THE HAGGERTY. >> JUDGE: OKAY. WHAT WAS THE ISSUE ON NUMBER NINE? WAS THERE AN ISSUE, JUST SO PICK. >> WE REVISED IT. >> JUDGE: THE ORDER? OU WANTED TO CHANGE THE ORDER? >> THE ORDER WAS IN PART OF THE AGENDA. SO, I ADJUSTED IT OUT EARLIER. >> JUDGE: IS ACCEPTABLE COMMISSIONER CHESNEY? HE WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE ORDER? >> YES, THE ORDER IS FINE. I THINK THERE WAS A PROVISION ON THE PROPOSAL JUDGE. >> JUDGE: OKAY SO, CAN YOU MAKE A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER NINE PLEASE? >> WELL, I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT TEST IS AT THE IT'S ALL RELATED ÃÃNO, WAIT. >> THIS IS NOT RELATED TO THAT. >> WHICH NUMBER. THIS IS NUMBER NINE. [INDISCERNIBLE] THE DISCUSSING FEYNMAN EMPEROR COMMIT FOR REQUEST AND QUALIFICATIONS FOR ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES FOR NUECES COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER'S [05:35:02] OFFICE. >> JUDGE: OKAY, BUT FIRST WE'RE GONNA DO THE MBE ÃDESPERATE. >> IT'S MORE SPECIFIC. >> YES. AND I KNOW I DID NOT TEST TEST SO, WE DID NOT EVEN MAKE THE AND PASS THAT FIRST ONE POINT. >> NO, BECAUSE HE WANTED TO SEE THE ORDER FIRST. >> SO MOVED JUDGE. >> JUDGE: THANK YOU. AND I WILL SECOND AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> I. >> I. > ON THE SAME SIGN. >> THAT ORDER AND THEN THE ONE THAT YOU JUST PASSED ME TO SIGN IS WAS INCLUDED. >> JUDGE: THAT WAS THE MBE. YOU DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT ONE? >> NO, I SENT ONE. >> JUDGE: YOU DID? NO PROBLEM SUPER. OING BACK TO THE HAGGERTY CONSULTING I DAY HAS SOMETHING TO REPORT ME JUST HANDED OUT TO US THAT YOU JUST GOT NEW NUMBERS? >> THIS IS REVISED. A PROPOSAL. >> SO, MY QUESTION AND THIS ONE IS WHAT IS THE 45 860, WHERE WE ON THAT? >> I'M STILL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT NUMBER. I DID NOT NOTE TEST IS [INDISCERNIBLE] >> YOU PUT A QUESTION IN THERE. THE CAUSE ANALYSIS, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, SPOKE WITH MICHAEL IN THE PRESENTED AN ITEM WITH MORE INFORMATION ON THAT PLEASE? >> YES, ABSOLUTELY. SO, I DID PROVIDE THE BUDGET THAT REVISED THOSE NUMBERS TO I DAY AND WE TALKED VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT THAT IN A SUPPLEMENTAL CONVERSATION ABOUT SUPPLEMENTAL CONTRACTUAL ISSUES AND RESOLVE THIS. WE ALSO DID HAVE A MEANINGFUL MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION ABOUT THE NEED TO REFINE THE PURCHASING PROCESS AND INCORPORATE A MORE FORMAL PROCESS FOR THESE AS LF PROJECTS. ECAUSE PURCHASING CANNOT BE LEFT OUT AND YOUR CONSULTANTS CANNOT BE LEFT OUT HAVE THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS. BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THESE QUESTIONS AND RFPS VERSUS RFQ'S AND WHEN COSTS HAVE TO BE A FACTOR. OUR BEING OVERSUPPLIED INTO A ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL APPROACH. IT JUST UNDERSCORES THE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE PROJECTS ON AN INDIVIDUAL CASE-BY-CASE PROCESS. THERE IS SO MUCH NUANCE TO THE REGULATION PICK. >> I DAY, YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THIS NUMBER OR NOT? YOU HAD DISCOMFORT AND I HAD DISCOMFORT. I'M WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM YOU ACTUALLY ON THIS 45 816 NUMBER. I KNOW WHAT HE DOES AND WHY HE DOES IT. I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THESE NUMBERS AND WHAT THEY ARE GOING INTO THAT BAR. WHAT IS YOUR Ãà [INDISCERNIBLE] >> HOW HE GOT TO THE 485. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE TIME TO DO THE ANALYSIS. I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED THEM. I'M JUST KIND OF LIKE WHAT TO DO. >> CAN BE PASSED THIS WITH NOT PUTTING NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER RIGHT NOW? AND JUST GET PAST SO THAT HE CAN GET SOMETHING GOING AND WORK? OR NOT TO EXCEED WHATEVER? WE COULD PUT A LOWER NUMBER AND COME BACK AND AMEND IT. WHATEVER IS NEEDED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AND BE ABLE TO GET COMFORTABLE. AM ABLE TO, BUT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE 45 860. I WANT TO GET THIS DONE FOR THEM AND GET MOVING. >> [INDISCERNIBLE] >> I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUT THIS. >> JUDGE: I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH HIM THIS ENTIRE TIME. WHAT EXACTLY ABOUT THE COST ANALYSIS IS YOUR CONCERN SO THAT WE CAN ASK HIM? >> JUDGE, I HAVE NOT SEEN. >> JUDGE: I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. THIS IS A COMPLETE DEPARTURE THAN WHAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT. IF I HAD KNOWN THAT THERE WAS A CONCERN, I WOULD'VE BROUGHT US TOGETHER EARLIER. WHAT IS THE CONCERN HERE? YOU HAVE ZERO ASSISTANCE RIGHT NOW. THESE DOLLARS COME FROM ARPA. THEY BEEN WORKING UNDER THE SAME EXACT FORMAT TO THIS POINT. WHAT IS DIFFERENT TODAY? ISN'T IT ÃÃI MEAN, ISN'T INCUMBENT UPON US TO CONTINUE THIS PROCESS? YOU ASKED HIM TO GO BACK, HE DID, YOU ASKED HIM TO DIFFER, HE DID, YOU ASKED HIM TO CUT, HE DID. WHAT IS THE QUESTION HERE? >> THE QUESTION IS NORMALLY WHEN WE BREAK THROUGH THIS Ãà THE LEVEL AND STATE LEVEL IT'S A COST ANALYSIS REQUIREMENT. I ASKED MICHAEL AND DOROTHY ABOUT IT. AND I ASKED TOM TO EXPLAIN TO ME WHY WE DID NOT HAVE THAT COST ANALYSIS FOR THIS PARTICULAR AGREEMENT. THAT MICHAEL, YOU CAN WEIGH IN ON THAT. >> A COST ANALYSIS ON WHAT? ON NOT TO EXCEED? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> JUDGE: TOM, [INDISCERNIBLE] >> A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS HERE. THE ISSUE MICHAEL AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT IS WHETHER OR NOT OUR ORIGINAL PROCUREMENT FOR THIS CONTRACT INCLUDED PRICE AS A DETERMINING FACTOR.OX CORRECT. NEXT WE WALKED THROUGH THAT AND DETERMINED THAT BASED UPON THE STEPS THAT THE RP FOLLOWED Ãà IT WAS A COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT. SO, IT MEETS THE GUIDELINES THAT WERE SET FORTH IN THE AS LF FINAL RULE FOR BEING ELIGIBLE FOR USE AS AN ARP AND 7.1 PROJECT. SO, THAT IS THE ISSUE OF THIS COST ANALYSIS. [05:40:02] IN TERMS OF OUR BUDGET, AND AGAIN, I CANNOT SPEAK IS YOUR AS ALAN LF CONSULTANT BUDGET. I'LL TELL YOU HOW I ARRIVED AT IT. I TOOK EVERY WORKSTREAM THAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH ON YOUR BEHALF BETWEEN NOW AND FEBRUARY 23, WHEN THIS CONTRACT EXPIRES. THAT IS EVERYTHING FROM SOAP RECIPIENT MONITORING. >> JUDGE, I DON'T MEAN TO CUT HIM OFF. IT IS 5:10. MY REQUEST WOULD BE TO GET THIS PASS. I'M NOT GONNA VOTE FOR FOUR AUGUST 5, 1960. THIS WEEK. I MIGHT NEXT WEEK. IF YOU COULD PUT NOT TO EXCEED $300,000 FOR RIGHT NOW, THAT MEANS THAT WE CAN KEEP WORKING. WE CAN KEEP MOVING FORWARD AND IF WE NEED TO AMEND THAT NUMBER LATER, EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT. I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THAT. AND IT DOESN'T SLOW ANYTHING THAT PRETTY DOESN'T STOP THEM. IF HE RUNS OUT OF MONEY, HE STOPS WORKING. BUT HE'S NOT GONNA SPEND 300,000 BETWEEN NOW AND TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. SO, I WOULD BE WILLING TO APPROVE IT AT THE NUMBER AND 350. OR SOMETHING. AND JUST SEE WHERE WE ARE. BUT. >> JUDGE: IS YOUR MOTION TEST TEST TO ME AT LEAST MAKE IT à JUST WAIT 385 860 SO THAT IT'S AN EVEN NUMBER IF WE HAVE TO ADD? >> 350? >> JUDGE: THE THREE. >> WE'RE TALKING BETWEEN NOW AND AUGUST 23. I WOULD SAY THAT WE PASS THIS. MY MOTION WOULD BE 350. TO EXCEED ON THAT AND THE REST OF IS FINE WITH ME.> JUDGE: ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING HI. >> I. >> JUDGE: IT WILL PUT ADJOURNMENTS IN MEMORY NEXT TIME. >> WE STILL NUMBER 17. WE HAD TO SET THE DATE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 1. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COURT IS FINE. >> JUDGE: I DON'T KNOW. WE WILL JUST HAVE TO DO ON ANOTHER TIME. DON'T HAVE TIME TO CHECK MY SCHEDULE. IT'S 10 MINUTES PAST FIVE. >> TO A PUBLIC HEARING DATE. >> JUDGE: WE HAVE A DATE. WE'RE DONE. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO POSTPONE AND ADJOURNMENTS AND MEMORY FOR EVERYBODY. I DO APOLOGIZE AND WILL CATCH THOSE UP * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.