[D. ANNOUNCEMENT ON DISCLOSURE OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST: Any Conflicts of Interest or Appearance of a Conflict of Interest with items on this agenda shall be declared at this time. Members with conflicts will refrain from voting and are asked to refrain from discussion on such items. Conflicts discovered later in the meeting shall be disclosed at that time.]

AT THIS TIME I'LL ASK FOR AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON DISCLOSURE OF ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST THAT MIGHT BE PRESENT ON OUR AGENDA

TODAY. >> JUDGE, I WILL BE REMOVING MYSELF FROM THE VOTE ON THE APPOINTMENTS TO THE SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY. AND I HAVE FILED PROPER PAPERWORK WITH THE COUNTY. THE COURT: DULY NOTED.

[E. SAFETY BRIEFING]

ARE THERE ANY OTHERS. HEARING NONE, I'LL MOVE TO OUR

SAFETY BRIEFING. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE.

MEETING HERE ON THE THIRD FLOOR OF THE NUECES COUNTY COURTHOUSE. RESTROOMS ARE LOCATED ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. PLEASE NOTE THERE IS A FIRE EXTINGUISHER LOCATED AT THE REAR OF THE COURTROOM.

FIVE ADDITIONAL FIRE EXTINGUISHERS THROUGHOUT THE ATRIUM AREA. AED IS LOCATED ON THE ATRIUM WALL, NEXT TO THE HUMAN RESOURCE OFFICE.

THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR DIALING 911 WILL BE CONNIE.

IN THE EVENT OF AN EVACUATION, EXIT THE PINE STREET ENTRANCE, SHOULD THERE BE A NEED TO SHELTER IN PLACE, COURT ATTENDEES WILL REMAIN IN THE COURTROOM, DEPENDING UPON THE SEVERITY OF THE INCIDENT. THE COURTROOM DOUBLE DOORS WILL BE SECURED AND REMAIN SECURED UNTIL GIVEN FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE NUECES COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. THAT CONCLUDES MY SAFETY BRIEFING. THE COURT: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'LL MAKE A FEW HOUSE KEEPING ANNOUNCEMENTS HERE.

NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE WILL TAKE THAT IN THAT ORDER.

HOWEVER, I AM GOING TO MAKE SOME ACCOMMODATIONS THIS MORNING TO TWO ITEMS OUTSIDE THE REGULAR ORDER AND THAT IS TO JUDGE JOE NAVITES. HE IS OUTSIDE.

I AM GOING TO TAKE THIS QUICKLY.

THE JUDGE NEEDS TO GET TO HIS DOCKET.

I ASK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE IN ALLOWING ME TO TAKE ONE ITEM VERY QUICKLY BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE TURN TO I BELIEVE IT'S UNDER GRANTS

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NATALIE. SO THAT IS GOING TO BE ON PAGE B1. YES.

[1. Discuss and consider approval of Memorandum of Understanding between Nueces County and Youth Odyssey for programs relating to the Truancy Prevention Initiative.]

SO WE HAVE MULTIPLE JUDGES HERE.

I'VE GOT B1, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE APPROVE OF MOU BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY AND YOUTH ODYSSEY.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS MOU.

I'LL ASK FOR A SECOND. WE'LL CALL FOR DISCUSSION.

>> SECOND. THE COURT: THANK YOU.

NATALIE, JUST SET THE TABLE FOR US AND THE JUDGES ARE HERE.

JUDGE BOBBY GONZALES, WELCOME. >> THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR THE TRUENCY PREVENTION GRANT. MOU WITH YOUTH ODYSSEY TO DO PROGRAMS FOR OUR YOUTH WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE THE GRANT MONEY. WE NEED TO GET THE MOU IN PLACE SO THAT WE CAN GET ROLLING WITH THE PROGRAMS. I'LL LET JUDGE NAVITIS TALK ABOUT HIS PROGRAMS AND ALSO BECKY FROM YOUTH ODYSSEY. THE COURT: WONDERFUL.

JUDGE. >> THANK YOU, JUST WANTED TO BRIEF, IN JUSTICE COURTS AND JUDGE RODRIGUEZ'S COURTROOM ON SOUTHERN SIDE OF NUECES COUNTY. WE ASKED QUITE A FEW NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS TO COMBAT THE TRUENCY PROBLEMS WE HAVE HERE IN NUECES COUNTY. WE PROVIDED A COMBINATION OF INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILY SERVICES TO HELP THE FAMILY MEET THEIR NEEDS. WE USE MHID FOR MENTAL ISSUES WE HAVE WITH OUR CHILDREN IN THE COURTROOM.

WE USE THE FAMILY OUTREACH, MCH, WHICH IS THEY ASSIST US IN CASE MANAGEMENT AND SOLUTIONS ON ISSUES WITH OUR STUDENTS, ON FAMILY COUNSELLING AND TRANSITIONAL CARE.

WE ALSO USE THE COUNSEL ON ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE AND NOW WE HAVE ORGANIZATION THAT WILL BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE SUCCESS OF OUR COURTROOM, MAKING SURE THAT OUR STUDENTS GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL. THEY COME WITH MANY ISSUES.

LAST WEEK WE HAD 100 JOS IN MY COURTROOM, FROM FIGHTING THIS CLASS, DISORDERLY CONDUCT. MINORS IN POSSESSION.

DISORDERLY CONDUCT. YEAH.

ASSAULT BY PHYSICAL CONTACT. ASSAULT BY THREAT.

DISORDERLY CONDUCT, DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY AT THE SCHOOL LEVEL. WE HAVE 400 CASES PENDING.

WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE POSSESSION OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO USE. I THINK THIS ORGANIZATION IS GOING TO IMPACT ON HELPING US WITH THESE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND BRING UP JUDGE BOBBY GONZALES TOO, HE IS GOING TO INTERJECT A COUPLE OF THINGS FROM HIS COURTROOM. THE COURT: THANK YOU, JUDGE.

JUDGE, WELCOME. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.

YOU KNOW I DON'T COME UP HERE TOO OFTEN.

IT'S ISSUES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH.

SO MANY YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN ARE HAVING TO DEAL WITH ADULT ISSUES AND GROWING UP. WE'RE LOOKING TO PARTNER WITH THIS ORGANIZATION THAT WILL PUT OUR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN BACK INTO THE RESPONSIBILITY OF WHAT THEIR AGE LEVEL IS, WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THEIR GOAL IS, NOT ONLY IN JUNIOR HIGH AND HIGH SCHOOL, BUT ADULTS.

THEY'RE NOT REALLY BAD CRIMES AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

THEY'RE CRIMINAL OFFENSES, YES, THEY ARE.

BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR JOB IS TO GET EDUCATED, MENTORING IS A BIG PROJECT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PARTNER WITH, NOT ONLY IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES, BUT ALSO IN THE SOUTH TEXAS REGION, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN SUPPORT THE SUPPORT SYSTEM THAT THEY NEED SO WE CAN MAKE THEM A FUNCTIONAL PART OF OUR SOCIETY INSTEAD OF OUR CRIMINAL SOCIETY.

THANK YOU, JUDGE. THE COURT: WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOUTH ODYSSEY AT THIS TIME?

>> YES, MA'AM. YOUTH ODYSSEY WILL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE OUR CHILDREN WITH HANDS-ON LIFE SKILLS, ACHIEVING GOALS, BECOME SUCCESSFUL CITIZENS OF SOCIETY.

THIS WILL GIVE US OUR COURTROOMS A DECREASE IN TRUENCY RATE. INCREASE THE GRADUATION RATE.

MS. MYERS. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.

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THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. YOUTH ODYSSEY IS HERE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY. WHAT WE ARE HERE TO DO, WE WERE INITIALLY CREATED TO FIGHT THE RISING TIDE OF JUVENILE CRIME AND VIOLENCE. WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT SINCE 1997. OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE BASIC LIFE SKILLS, COMMUNICATION, PROBLEM SOLVING, TRUST LEADERSHIP, GOAL SETTING, ACHIEVING, TO KIDS AGES 10 TO 17. AND WE DO THAT THROUGH OUTDOOR ADVENTURE EDUCATION TEAM BUILDING EDUCATION, CAMPING TRIPS, OUTDOOR FOCUSED, WE WILL TEACH THESE BASIC LIFE SKILLS THROUGH THESE FUN, ENGAGING OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES.

CURRENTLY WE'RE THE ONLY NON-PROFIT IN THIS AREA THAT IS PROVIDING THESE SORT OF SERVICES.

WE ARE PREPARED TO OPEN UP OUR PROGRAMS TO SOME OF HIS CASES AS WELL. THE COURT: FANTASTIC.

COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> GOOD JOB, JUDGES. THE COURT: VERY GOOD PROGRAM.

AND VERY GLAD THAT -- WELL, LET'S DOUBLE CHECK.

IS THE MOU IN ORDER? >> THERE ARE BLANKS, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE, FOR THE INSURANCE AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING, I BELIEVE THAT IN THE -- THAT WE DO 250,000 PER OCCURRENCE WITH A $500,000 -- LET ME MAKE SURE THAT IS CORRECT. THE COURT: IS THAT ACCEPTABLE TO THOSE THAT ARE ENTERING INTO THE AGREEMENT?

>> YES. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY COVERING. NORMALLY PRIOR TO THIS, WE HAVE ONE MILLION PER OCCURRENCE AND 3 MILLION AGGREGATE.

BUT DUE TO THE STATE OF THE MARKET LAST JULY, WHEN WE RENEWED, THOSE COVERAGES WERE NOT AVAILABLE TO US.

THE COURT: SO THE COVERAGES BEING PROPOSED ARE ACCEPTABLE

TO THE PARTIES? >> THAT IS CORRECT, YES.

THE COURT: MY MOTION WILL BE REVISED.

COMMISSIONERS, I WITHDRAW MY PREVIOUS MOTION AND MY MOTION IS THAT WE DO APPROVE THE MOU BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY AND YOUTH ODYSSEY WITH THE ADDITION THAT WE INSTRUCT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO PLACE IN THE INSURANCE PROVISION BLANKS 250,000 ON EACH OCCURRENCE WITH A $500,000 AGGREGATE.

IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

THE COURT: MOTION, A SECOND. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR FURTHER DISCUSSION? THE WAY TO GO STILL STANDS, EVEN THOUGH WE REVISED THE MOTION.

THANK YOU. THIS IS WONDERFUL AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL COME AND CONSIDER GIVING US AN UPDATE ON THE PROGRESS OR SUCCESS STORIES. SO OFTEN WE MAKE APPROPRIATIONS BUT THEN WE WANT TO HEAR MORE. IT'S NOT JUST THE FUNDING, IT'S WHAT THE FUNDING DOES FOR THE YOUTH.

AND FOR THE CHILDREN. AND TO THE TWO JUDGES THAT CAME, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I HOPE THAT THIS HELPS TO ACCOMMODATE YOUR DOCKET THIS MORNING.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. THE COURT: FOR THE AUDIENCE, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR RESPECTING THE OPPORTUNITY THAT I SOMETIMES ENGAGE IN AS THE PRESIDING OFFICER, BUT I KNOW YOU'LL AGREE WITH ME THAT WITH PEOPLE WAITING DOWN IN COURTROOMS, YOU WANT TO GET THE JUDGES BACK.

HE DOESN'T WANT TO LEAVE. GO AHEAD, JUDGE.

>> I WANT TO THANK YOU, COUNTY JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THE COURT: THANK YOU. RIGHT BACK AT YOU.

SO HERE IS OUR SITUATION, YES. HERE IS OUR SITUATION, TODAY MUST BE IMPORTANT DAY. ALL OF THE IMPORTANT PEOPLE ARE HERE. I JUST SAW CHAIRMAN HUNTER WALK IN. HE AND THE ISLANDERS ARE HERE.

I'M COGNIZANT. WE'VE GOT IMPORTANT PROCLAMATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET TO SWIFTLY.

I ALSO HAVE DR. MORANO FROM RISD WITH US ON.

REST ASSURED THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET TO ALL THREE OF YOU VERY, SWIFTLY. DR. MILLER, I WANT TO BE VERY

[F. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]

RESPECTFUL OF YOUR TIME. WHAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME IS NINE FOLKS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK EACH OF YOU IS IF YOU'RE HERE FOR AN ITEM THAT IS ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE, AS I CALL YOUR NAME, LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK AT THE TIME OF THE AGENDA ITEM AND I CAN ADVANCE THAT AGENDA ITEM TO RESPECT THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HELP ME ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THESE PROCLAMATIONS. SO LET'S START WITH --

>> EXCUSE ME, JUDGE. I DO HAVE THE SUPERINTENDENT HERE. AND THE WEATHER IS GETTING KIND OF BAD, I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD PUT HIM UP.

THE COURT: IS HE ON A PARTICULAR ITEM?

>> CONSENT AGENDA. THE COURT: PUBLIC COMMENT.

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OKAY. YES.

ABSOLUTELY. I CAN.

BUT FIRST HAVE -- WELL, WHY DON'T YOU CALL ON HIM FIRST, SINCE YOU MADE THE REQUEST. I'LL HONOR THAT.

>> SIR, WOULD YOU STEP UP, PLEASE.

>> I WON'T TAKE THAT MUCH OF YOUR TIME.

JUDGE, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME FORWARD.

COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, I THINK WE MET ONCE OR TWICE.

OF COURSE, MR. MARR WE'VE MET. MY NAME IS RICHARD MAYOR.

I'M HERE TO SAY THANK YOU. IN FRONT OF OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS IT'S BEEN AN AMUSEMENT PARK RIDE, WITH THE POTHOLES, YOU CAN CATCH SERIOUS AIR IF YOU CAME IN ABOUT 25 MILES AN HOUR.

IT WAS AN ENTERTAINING TIME. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT. WE COULDN'T GET ANYBODY TO COME OUT. IT WAS COUNTY PROPERTY, THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER THING AND NOBODY WANTED TO FIX IT.

WELL, WE STARTED WITH COMMISSIONER MAREZ, THINGS TRANSITIONED OVER TO COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ.

HE RAN THE AREA, GOT ON HIS BICYCLE THERE, DID A COUPLE OF LOOP TO LOOPS ON THE POTHOLES AND HAD A GOOD TIME AND SAID WE PROBABLY NEED TO FIX THIS. OVER SPRING BREAK, THE COUNTY CAME IN WITH THEIR CREWS AND FIXED OUR STREET IN FRONT OF OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. AND IT HAS BEEN A BLESSING.

I WILL JUST SAY THAT. I'M HERE TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU ALL.

AND I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THE KIDS.

THAT KIND OF GETS LOST IN EVERYTHING IN TERMS OF SAFETY AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IF WE HAVE A VEHICLE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE GO SIDEWAYS OR WHATEVER.

PARENTS ARE GREAT. BUT THEY'RE GRATEFUL FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE.

YOUR WORKS CREW AND COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR US.

AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE. IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT ISD CAN DO FOR THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OR YOU, JUDGE, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO. WE'RE A PHONE CALL AWAY.

COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ HAS MY CELL PHONE NUMBER.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I KNOW HOW THESE MEETINGS ROLL, SO I WILL GET OUT OF THE WAY. THANK YOU FROM THE CHILDREN AND

EVERYBODY ELSE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

SAFE TRIP BACK HOME. THE COURT: FOR THE CLERK, HE WAS FIRST, SO I DID ANNOUNCE HIM.

DOUBLE CHECK, IT WAS 130 WEST CAROL AND NUMBER 101 KINGSVILLE FOR THE ADDRESS. THE NEXT PERSON WE HAVE IS BETTY SHEETS FOLLOWED BY GALE GLOVER.

MS. SHEETS, WELCOME. SO THAT IS GOING TO TAKE MS. SHEETS, I'LL MAKE THAT STAR. KATHLEEN WHITE WE'LL CALL UPON YOU IN THE GAME ROOM. IS IT MS. -- NO. EDDIE -- GAME ROOM. GOT IT.

OKAY. MARGARET BALDWIN.

GAME ROOM. THAT HELPS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. HOW ABOUT MS. GAIL GLOVER.

THANK YOU. BUT MS. GLOVER, IS IT ALSO GAME

ROOMS? >> NO.

THE COURT: GOT IT. JUST NEEDED TO LOOK OVER THE ITEM NUMBER. THANK YOU.

I'LL CALL YOU AT THAT TIME. AND THEN THAT WOULD LEAVE MR. CHESTNUT AND MR. VERKON ON DRAINAGE.

WELCOME. MR. BOBBY CHESTNUT.

FOLLOWED BY MR. LARRY FERKON. >> THANK YOU YOUR HONOR.

GLAD TO BE HERE TODAY, GOOD LORD WILLING.

WE'RE HERE TO TRYING TO FOLLOW UP ON THE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE AND TRYING TO FIND INFORMATION ABOUT WHEN AND WHERE IT'S GOING TO START WITH THE CORRECTION AND THE FIXING OF THE PROBLEM. WE TALKED TO MR. HERNANDEZ, MR. FERKIN AND I WENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN ROBSTOWN.

THEY THREW THEIR HANDS UP AND SAID NO MONEY, NO EQUIPMENT.

THE MAYOR WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE TODAY.

BUT DIDN'T SHOW. BUT HE DID SAY THAT HE HAS BEEN TRYING TO GET THE COUNTY TO HELP THEM OUT IN SEVERAL WAYS, TO NO AVAIL. THE AREA WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT IS ALONG COUNTY ROAD 69. AND WE TALKED WITH THE HALFF CONSULTING COMPANY A COUPLE OF TIMES.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE WANTING TO FIND OUT WHEN AND WHAT DATE AND TIME ARE WE GOING TO START FIXING THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE

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PERSONALLY GONE OUT AND IDENTIFIED.

STORM SEASON IS COMING UP. I KNOW WE'RE HURTING FOR RAIN RIGHT NOW. BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT IT CAN HAPPEN ANY TIME OVERNIGHT AND WE CAN GET ANYWHERE FROM ONE TO 15 INCHES. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO START ON REPAIRING WHAT WE KNOW NEEDS TO BE FIXED. THAT WOULD HELP NOW.

THANK YOU. THE COURT: THANK YOU, SIR.

AND FINALLY, MR. LARRY FERKIN. >> HOW MANY DO YOU NEED?

THE COURT: WELCOME, SIR. >> GOOD MORNING.

I'LL WAIT FOR THE HAND-OUTS. THE COURT: I THINK WE ALL HAVE IT. ANY TIME YOU'RE READY.

>> WE FINALLY GOT WITH JERRY, JUAN PIMENTO.

I CAN'T PRONOUNCE HIS NAME CORRECTLY.

PIMENTEL. HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE AND HE WAITED OUTSIDE ON THE ROAD AND DIDN'T COME UP TO BOBBY'S HOUSE TO SAY HEY, WE'RE HERE. KIND OF DISCOURAGING, BECAUSE THAT IS THE SECOND TIME HE NO SHOWED ON US.

JERRY WENT AROUND WITH US. AND HE WAS SAYING THAT ON COUNTY ROAD 1889, WHERE IT COMES AND CROSSES RIGHT BEFORE 48 AND 46, YOU'LL SEE I GUESS IT'S IN BLACK, THE LINE THAT GOES ACROSS FROM 1889 AND CROSSES UNDERNEATH.

BUT IT HAS PROBABLY I DON'T KNOW 500 FEET OR SO THAT GOES ON 1889. AND JERRY SAID THAT THERE IS A LINE, A HIGH PRESSURE LINE THERE, THAT WAS WITH KINDER MORGAN. WE DID THE 811 WITH KINDER MORGAN. KINDER MORGAN SAYS THE LINE IS SEVEN FEET DEEP. WE DID A LOT OF INVESTIGATION WITH ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD HAVE LINES ON WHERE YOU WOULD BE DIGGING. AND FOUND OUT THAT MOST OF THE LINES AREN'T GOING TO BE ANY PROBLEM FOR ANY OF THIS DIGGING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. WE ALSO FOUND OUT OVER THERE ON COUNTY ROAD 50, WHERE IT CROSSES ACROSS COUNTY ROAD 69, THERE IS ANOTHER PROBLEM DITCH, WHICH IS ANOTHER HOLE IN THE BUCKET IS, WE WOULD SAY, THAT GOES OUT TO 77 AND THERE ON OUT, THAT ONE NEEDS TO BE DUG OUT AND BASICALLY THERE IS NO TREES OR ANYTHING. IT'S JUST DIRT THAT WON'T ALLOW THE WATER TO GO OUT TO 77 AND ACROSS.

AND IT'S BASICALLY PRETTY EASY, DIG IT OUT AND PUT IT ON THE SIDE. IT'S ANOTHER HOLE FOR US TO GET OUT WITH OUR DRAINAGE PROBLEM. AND AS IT GOES, JERRY SAYS, WELL, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP TO THE TOP OF THE COLDER AND BACK UP. IT'S NEVER GOING TO GET OUT.

SO THAT DITCH NEEDS TO BE DUG OUT.

THAT IS COUNTY, AS FAR AS WE CAN SEE.

AND THEN ON OUT ON THE OTHER SIDE, IF THAT CONTINUES ON, PAST UNDERNEATH 77, TO THE OTHER SIDE ON OUT, IT'S GOT

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SOME TREE GROWTH THERE AS WELL. SO WE CAN'T -- WE NEED Y'ALL'S HELP. WE'VE GONE TO THE CITY HALL IN ROBSTOWN AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE MAYOR'S NAME OVER THERE.

SAYS HE IS GOING TO BE HERE TODAY.

HE FAILED ON US. WE ARE BEING PING PONGED AROUND. AND WE'RE DOING BASICALLY EVERYBODY'S WORK HERE TO FIND OUT WHAT IS WRONG.

AND BEING TOLD DIFFERENT STORIES AND THEN DO THE 811 AND FIND OUT DIFFERENTLY OF WHAT THEY'RE TELLING US.

WE HEAR AND THE COURT HEAR ALL OF THE TIME, HEY, WE GOT TO WORK TOGETHER. NOBODY SEEMS TO BE WORKING TOGETHER TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. AND WE'RE COMING UP HERE AND BEATING OUR HEADS ALL OF THE TIME TRYING TO FIND OUT THE SOLUTION HERE, FIND OUT THAT WHAT WE'RE BEING TOLD IS WRONG AND NONE OF YOU GUYS WANT TO WORK TOGETHER, TO GET US THIS DRAINAGE DITCH DONE, FIXED SO SIESTA LOOP, THIS DEAL THAT HALFF CAME UP HERE AND TOLD US, RETENTION PONDS, YOU GOT ONE THAT HAD WORKED OVER THERE IN BOBBY'S AREA OVER THERE, RIGHT BETWEEN THEM AND THAT COUNTY ROAD 52, THAT THEY MENTIONED.

BUT THAT IS GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.

AND IT NEEDS, AS WE ALL KNOW, IT STILL HAS TO BE PUMPED OUT TO A DITCH THAT JUST DOESN'T -- ISN'T WORKING.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO FLOOD AGAIN.

THE RETENTION POND THEY GOT OVER THERE AT NORTHWEST LAKES, THAT IS FULL ALL OF THE TIME. THAT IS THE THE WAY THEY SELL THE PROPERTY OVER THERE. THERE IS NOWHERE FOR THAT TO GO. IN THE RETENTION PONDS THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT IN THE BACK OF THE LAKES THERE, THE TWO NEW SUBDIVISIONS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN, THAT IS NOT GOING TO HELP ARMADA, BARBARA LANE, THAT IS NOT GOING TO HELP THEM OVER THERE AT NORTHWEST LAKES. AGAIN, YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT WATER GO TO THE OTHER DIRECTION, TOWARD THE RETENTION PONDS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND THE WAY OUT IS TO GO TO 1889, AND DOWNSTREAM OVER THERE WHERE YOU GOT PLUGGAGE, WHERE I'VE SHOWN YOU ALREADY BEFORE, AND THAT ONE IS IN BLACK, THE PROBLEM DITCH.

AND THEN THE NEW ONE OVER HERE ON COUNTY ROAD 50.

THEY'RE BOTH PROBLEM DITCHES THAT WE CAN'T GET OUT ON.

AND NOBODY WANTS TO HELP. WE'RE TIRED OF REALLY COMING HERE AND FINDING OUT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE SAYING HEY, WE GOT TO WORK TOGETHER, BUT NOBODY IS WORKING TOGETHER TO GET THIS DITCH DONE. OR THESE TWO DITCHES THAT WOULD HELP US IMMENSELY. AND WE'RE COMING HERE AND COMING HERE, AND NOT GETTING ANY RESOLUTION.

WE'VE GOT THE MONEY, BUT WE'RE SPENDING IT EVERYWHERE BUT.

AND ROBSTOWN SAYS THEY CAN'T DO THE DITCH, THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY OR FUNDS OR EQUIPMENT. AND IT FALLS BACK TO YOU GUYS HERE TO HELP OUT. IF NOT, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY OR HANDS OR THE PEOPLE, WE'VE GOT THE MONEY IS WHAT WE'RE UNDERSTANDING. IF WE DON'T HAVE THE PEOPLE TO DO IT, LET'S SOURCE THIS THING OUT THEN.

SOURCE TO SOMEBODY ELSE THAT WILL DO THE JOB SO THESE PEOPLE DON'T GET FLOODED ALL OF THE TIME.

WE'RE ASKING FOR Y'ALL TO PROGRESS AND GET THIS DONE BEFORE IT HAPPENS AGAIN. THE COURT: UNDERSTOOD THANK YOU. WE HAVE ONE IN ZOOM AS WELL.

I'LL RETURN THIS. I'LL CALL ON THE ZOOM WHILE THEY SIGN UP SO I KNOW WHO IT IS.

CONNIE, WILL YOU ASK -- ANGELA HORNER OKAY.

>> HI, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ANGELA HORNER AND I LIVE IN CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS. AFFILIATE LEADER AND PROGRAM DIRECTOR FOR NAMI, NATIONAL ALLIANCE FOR MENTAL ILLNESS.

FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK JUDGE CANALES FOR HER SPEECH LAST WEEK. I AM 100 PERCENT IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU. WE DO NEED MORE FUNDING HERE IN

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NUECES COUNTY TO BE ALLOCATED TOWARD MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A MENTAL HEALTH COURT HERE IN NUECES COUNTY. I HEARD GREAT THINGS ABOUT THE ONE IN SAN ANTONIO AND OTHER COMMUNITIES, IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE HAD ONE HERE. ALSO, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE MITIGATION SPECIALISTS. ONE OF THE PANELISTS AT THE EVENT ON WEDNESDAY LAST WEEK TALKED ABOUT MITIGATION SPECIALISTS THAT THEY HAVE IN LUBBOCK, I THINK IT WAS.

AND I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HERE IN NUECES COUNTY, BUT WE NEED MORE FUNDING.

ANOTHER THING IS MENTAL HEALTH COURT ADVOCATES, WHEN WE DO GET MENTAL HEALTH, I SAY WHEN, BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT'S POSSIBLE. WE NEED MORE FUNDING ALLOCATED.

AND I GUESS THAT IS THE MAIN REASON I'M HERE.

I WAS HERE LAST MONTH. AND I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT PEOPLE IN NUECES COUNTY DO CARE ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH.

LAST NIGHT, WE WENT TO THE DAY OF THE WOMAN EVENT THAT WAS PUT ON BY THE BUSH INSTITUTE. OUT AT TEXAS A&M.

THEY HAD A WONDERFUL TURN-OUT. WE HEARD SOME REALLY GREAT SPEAKERS. MENTAL HEALTH IS PART OF PHYSICAL HEALTH. I JUST WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT WITHOUT OUR BRAIN FUNCTIONING PROPERLY, IT'S HARD TO MAINTAIN OUR PHYSICAL HEALTH.

THEY ARE SAYING THAT THERE IS NOT ENOUGH PSYCHIATRISTS AND THERAPISTS, PSYCHOLOGISTS HERE IN THE AREA.

I AGREE WITH THAT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I AM STILL SEEING MY PSYCHIATRIST IN SAN ANTONIO BECAUSE I COULDN'T FIND ONE HERE LOCALLY IN CORPUS, WHEN I MOVED HERE SIX YEARS AGO. THAT IS MY PERSONAL REASON WHY I THINK WE NEED MORE FUNDING FOR MENTAL HEALTH.

BUT YOU KNOW, JUDGE CANALES, YOU PROBABLY KNOW MANY MORE REASONS AS WELL. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING. THE COURT: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I'LL CALL ON -- OKAY. SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT. THE REST OF YOU WILL BE SPEAKING AT THE TIME OF THE GAME ROOM AGENDA ITEMS, IS MY UNDERSTANDING. DEPUTY, THERE IS NOBODY ELSE WAITING OUTSIDE. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'VE GOT A FEW IMPORTANT ITEMS AGAIN, I'M GOING TO TAKE THEM OUT OF ORDER. BUT I PROMISE THERE IS A GOOD METHODOLOGY HERE. IT'S TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ALSO REPRESENT POLITICAL JURISDICTIONS AND NEED TO GET BACK. YES, MA'AM.

MS. FUENTES. PLEASE UNMUTE.

>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE CANALES AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

I'M A PROUD VOLUNTEER OF NAMI CORPUS CHRISTI.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS HERE IN NUECES COUNTY.

MY PUBLIC COMMENT IS ON MENTAL HEALTH.

SPECIFICALLY ON AVAILABLE RESOURCES AND PROGRAMS TO THOSE WITH MENTAL HEALTH DIAGNOSIS AND TO THEIR LOVED ONES AS WELL. BECAUSE OF THE STIGMA, MENTAL HEALTH EDUCATION MUST BE AVAILABLE TO ALL WALKS OF LIFE AND TO START WITH OUR YOUTH IN SCHOOLS.

THE SOONER THEY KNOW ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH, THE SOONER THEY CAN ACCEPT IT AND HELP DIMINISH THE STIGMA AND SHAME OF MENTAL HEALTH. HAVING ATTENDED YESTERDAY'S VIETNAM VETERAN'S CELEBRATION REMINDED ME OF THE COMBAT VETERAN WHO WAS IN MY LIFE FOR 20 YEARS.

HE SERVED TWO TOURS, THE SECOND TOUR INTENDED AS A SUICIDE MISSION. AS HE WAS A SOLE SURVIVOR OF FOUR FRIENDS AND ONE BROTHER. HE REFUSED TO UTILIZE HIS VA BENEFITS TO SEEK COUNSELING SERVICES.

LUCKILY, HE FOUND SOLACE IN VOLUNTEERING TO SERVE OTHERS IN ORDER TO NOT THINK ABOUT HIS DEMONS AND NIGHTMARES.

HE HAS SINCE PASSED. AND I BEGAN VOLUNTEERING.

I WAS FINALLY EDUCATED ON WHAT PTSD WAS ABOUT.

IT SHOULDN'T TAKE YEARS TO UNDERSTAND MENTAL HEALTH ILLNESS. HAD I KNOWN ABOUT NAMI OR OTHER MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AND EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS, THE ACCEPTANCE OF HIS PTSD AND SURVIVOR'S GUILT WOULD HAVE BEEN UNDERSTOOD MUCH EARLIER. THUS, I THANK THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO CONSIDER FUNDING MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS AND INITIATIVES WITHIN NUECES COUNTY.

LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE JUDGE CANALES AND COMMISSIONERS

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TO ATTEND NAMI'S GREET AND MEET TOMORROW FROM FIVE TO SEVEN AT DOCTOR'S REGIONAL HOSPITAL. THANK YOU.

THE COURT: THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT.

CONNIE, I THINK THAT DOES CONCLUDE OUR ONLINE PUBLIC COMMENTS. AND SO AT THIS TIME WHAT I'M GOING TO DO AGAIN, TO ACCOMMODATE OUR AGENDA ACTUALLY CALLS FOR AN IMPORTANT EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM ON CONVENING OUR NUECES COUNTY HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION.

BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU PARTICIPATING IN THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION, IF YOU WILL JUST PLEASE HOLD, I PROMISE TO BE AS SWIFT AS POSSIBLE. I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE CHAIRMAN TODD HUNTER. HE IS HERE, I BELIEVE IN

[3. In recognition of the month of April 2022 as Beach Safety and Rip Current Awareness Month.]

SUPPORT OF ITEM NUMBER H3, IN RECOGNITION OF THE MONTH OF APRIL 2022, AS BEACH SAFETY AND RIP CURRENT AWARENESS MONTH.

AND WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT THAT ITEM BE PUT FORWARD AT THIS TIME. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ITEM THAT WE ALL HAVE A TREMENDOUS -- REALLY JUST AFFECTION AND AFFINITY FOR. BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE WE HAD A PART IN YOU KNOW, WALKING THIS JOURNEY AND ESTABLISHING THIS PARTICULAR RIP CURRENT AWARENESS WITH REGARDS TO ALERT HERE AT COMMISSIONER'S COURT. WE WILL RECOGNIZE THE DASANI SMITH FOUNDATION AND ANYONE ELSE WHO IS HERE IN SUPPORT OF THIS IMPORTANT DATE. WHEREAS, EVERY YEAR COUNTLESS TEXANS FLOCK TO BEACHES TO ENJOY THE SUNSHINE, SAND AND WAVES, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR VISITORS TO BE AWARE OF THE POTENTIAL DANGERS THAT CAN ARISE FROM SWIMMING IN THE OCEAN. RIP CURRENTS ARE POWERFUL NARROW CHANNELS OF FAST MOVING WATER THAT FLOW OUTWARD TO SEA.

THESE CURRENTS HAVE AN AVERAGE SPEED OF ONE TO TWO FEET PER SECOND. MANY SWIMMERS ARE CAUGHT OFF GUARD BY THE SENSATION OF BEING PULLED OUT TO SEA AND REACT BY ATTEMPTING TO SWIM DIRECTLY TO SHORE, PUTTING THEMSELVES AT RISK OF EXHAUSTION AND DROWNING.

WHEREAS, SIGNS THAT A RIP CURRENT MAY BE PRESENT, A BREAK IN THE WAVE PATTERN, VISIBLE CHANNEL OF CHOPPY WATER, LINE OF FOAM OR DEBRIS MOVING SEAWARD AND A DIFFERENCE IN WATER COLOR. IF A SWIMMER IS CAUGHT IN A RIP CURRENT, HE OR SHE SHOULD SWIM PARALLEL RATHER THAN AGAINST THE FORCE OF THE CURRENT. IF HE OR SHE IS UNABLE TO ESCAPE THAT WAY, IT IS BEST TO FLOAT OR TREAD WATER AND SIGNAL FOR HELP. IMPERATIVE THAT SWIMMERS REMAIN CALM AND TRY TO CONSERVE THEIR ENERGY.

AND BEACH VISITORS SHOULD BE MINDFUL OF THE FLAG WARNING SYSTEM, WHICH IS USED TO SIGNAL HAZARDOUS CONDITIONS IN THE WATER, SUCH AS STRONG CURRENTS, HIGH BACTERIA LEVELS AND JELLY FISH OR OTHER MARINE LIFE. VISITORS CAN RECEIVE DAILY UPDATES ON THE BEACH CONDITIONS FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE. WHEREAS, RECOGNIZING AND BEING PREPARED FOR RIP CURRENTS AND OTHER HAZARDS CAN SAVE LIVES AND IT IS IMPORTANT THAT TEXANS TAKE THE TIME TO EDUCATE THEMSELVES ABOUT THESE DANGERS TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE A SAFE, HEALTHY AND ENJOYABLE BEACH VACATION.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT THAT THE 87TH LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, HEREBY DESIGNATE APRIL AS BEACH SAFETY AND RIP CURRENT AWARENESS MONTH. BE FURTHER THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 391.004D GOVERNMENT, CODE, THIS DESIGNATION REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL THE 10TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE DATE THAT THIS RESOLUTION IS FINALLY PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE. THAT THE COURT HEREBY RECOGNIZES THE MONTH OF APRIL AS THE MONTH OF BEACH SAFETY AND RIP CURRENT AWARENESS. THE COURT: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE SUCH RESOLUTION AND ASK FOR A SECOND AND THEN CALL FOR DISCUSSION.

>> SECOND. THE COURT: GOT A SECOND AND JUST HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THOSE VERY TREACHEROUS RED FLAGS TODAY. THE COURT IS GOING TO RECOGNIZE KAWANDA BENSON, NATIONAL ADVOCATE FOR RIP CURRENT

AWARENESS. >> THANK YOU.

I FEEL LIKE I'M IN FRONT OF LEGISLATION AGAIN.

BECAUSE IT WAS JUST THIS TOUGH. IT WAS EVEN ACTUALLY TOUGHER.

I'M CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO APOLOGIZE FOR MY EMOTIONS.

BECAUSE JAZANI'S BIRTHDAY IS ON SUNDAY.

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AND HE WOULD BE HEAVENLY 21. I'LL TELL YOU THAT LOSING A CHILD IS EXTREMELY TRAUMATIC. AND I WILL JUST ALLUDE TO THAT MENTAL HEALTH AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS.

LOSING SOMEONE TO A DROWNING IS EVEN MORE TRAUMATIC.

I WOULD NEVER WANT TO BE THAT PERSON IN THAT MOMENT.

THIS IS CERTAINLY NOT A CALLING THAT I HAD ALMOST THREE YEARS AGO. BUT IT IS ONE THAT I'M RESPONDING TO. DROWNING IS PREVENTABLE THROUGH EDUCATION AND AWARENESS PROGRAMS. BECAUSE IT OFFERS PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE BEST CHOICES AND DECISIONS, WHILE ENJOYING THE BEACHES.

MOTHER NATURE HAS HER OWN AGENDA.

AND NUDGING THE UNTAPPED MINDS OF BEACH--GOERS TOWARDS SAFER DECISIONS WILL SAVE LIVES OF OTHERS WHO WE WILL NEVER EVER MEET. AND THAT SHOULD BE A GOOD FEELING.

I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE MORE FAMILY MEMBERS STANDING UP HERE BESIDE ME SHARING THEIR STORIES.

BUT IT'S TOUGH. IT'S A BURDEN.

AND IT'S ONE I CERTAINLY CAN'T CARRY FOR SOMEONE ELSE.

BECAUSE MY BURDEN IS TOUGH. WHEN I SAY NUDGE, IT'S THE LITTLE SMALL THINGS. I THOUGHT IF I LOOKED AT THE AGENDA THIS MORNING, I SAID WOW, CORPUS CHRISTI BASKETBALL TEAM IS GOING TO BE HERE. SO I BROUGHT THEM A BAG OF FLOATING KEYCHAINS. JUST THAT LITTLE BIT OF THAT NUDGE. YOU NEVER KNOW HOW FAR THAT WILL GO. BY HELPING EDUCATING OUR YOUTH, OUR COMMUNITY, EVERYONE, ALL ADULTS, CHILDREN.

YOU NEVER KNOW HOW FAR THAT WILL GO.

AND WHY NOT? THAT IS SO SIMPLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. VERY SIMPLE.

AS AN EDUCATOR, I KNOW THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.

THAT IS HOW IT WORKS. THAT IS HOW WE ALL HAVE DEVELOPED INTO THE PEOPLE WHO WE ARE TODAY, THROUGH EDUCATION AND AWARENESS AND SOMEONE GIVING US SOME SMALL TOKEN OF HEY, HERE, BE CAREFUL. HEY, HERE, SHARE THIS.

THAT'S HOW WE MAKE DECISIONS AND CHOICES.

EDUCATION AND AWARENESS IS NOT FILLING A BUCKET.

IT'S LIGHTING A FIRE. IT'S THE START OF A MOVEMENT.

ONE DAY I SWEAR I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS BRIEF, I PROMISE.

BUT PHILOSOPHER, ARISTOTLE, HE SAID THE LACK OF EDUCATION IS THE MOTHER OF ALL SUFFERING. AND IT IS.

PEOPLE SAY WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW CAN'T HURT YOU.

HEY, WHEN IT COMES TO RIP CURRENTS, WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW CAN HURT YOU AND/OR KILL YOU. THE SAFE ENVIRONMENT WE WANT AS A COMMUNITY IS THE ONE THAT WE CREATE.

THERE IS NO BETTER FEELING KNOWING THAT WE LIVE IN A COMMUNITY AND A STATE THAT HELPS SUPPORT KEEPING VISITORS AND CITIZENS SAFE. ALL OF US TOGETHER ARE CREATING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, OR AT LEAST WE CAN.

THIS IS JUST A START. WE ARE NOWHERE NEAR WHERE WE NEED TO BE. BUT WE'RE DOING GREAT THINGS.

FAITH AND PRAYER BOTH AINVISIBE BUT THEY MAKE IMPOSSIBLE THINGS POSSIBLE. THAT IS HOW I'M STANDING HERE.

SO THANK YOU NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT, JUDGE, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND OF COURSE, I HAVE TO THANK REPRESENTATIVE TODD HUNTER WHO WAS THE HOUSE BILL 3807, WHICH IS ALSO KNOWN AS THE JAZANI SMITH ACT, IT'S AMAZING HOW I KNOW ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND CAN REMEMBER THEM. BUT THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. I STOOD HERE ALMOST A YEAR AGO, LOBBYING FOR LEGISLATION, TO HELP PREVENT OTHER PEOPLE FROM FEELING HOW MY FAMILY FEELS. EVERY DAY.

THE STRUGGLE, IT'S REAL. AND NONE OF US ARE EXEMPT.

YOU GET OUT IN THAT BEACH WATER, YOU'RE NOT EXEMPT.

SO THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE HUNTER AND YOUR TEAM.

AND CHAMPIONS OF THE LEGISLATION.

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THANK YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I DO NEED TO GIVE THESE BAGS OF FLOATING KEY CHAINS TO DR. MILLER.

CAN I GIVE THOSE TO YOU? THANK YOU.

THE COURT: CHAIRMAN HUNTER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO JUST TAKE A FEW COMMENTS AND WANT TO RECOGNIZE YOUR STAFF THAT IS

HERE, ANGIE. >> THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS I WANT TO THANK KAWANA AND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY AND YOU, JUDGE, FOR DRESSING LIKE ME TODAY.

I'M CLOSE. PRETTY CLOSE.

YOUR HAIR COMES WITH ME, JUDGE. MAREZ, YOUR TIE LOOKS GOOD.

COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU THE CREDIT, HOW ABOUT THAT. I WANT TO MAKE A LITTLE COMMENT. WHERE IS OUR MEDIA? ALL I HEAR ARE NEGATIVES. YOU JUST GOT A PRESENTATION OF A POSITIVE. YOU SAVED LIVES, CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. WHY ISN'T THAT THE NEWS? THIS ISN'T A PARTISAN BILL. THIS IS A PEOPLE BILL.

WHERE WAS IT CREATED? COASTAL BILL.

THE MESSAGE TO BE SENT IS SOUTH TEXAS JUDGE AND ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS HEAR ME SAY, THIS IS AN MI FAMILIA AREA.

WHAT KAWANA CAME UP AND TOLD YOU IS LEGISLATION THAT SAVED PEOPLE. WE HAD TO GO TO THE LEGISLATURE AND EXPLAIN WHAT A RIP CURRENT WAS.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT, WHEN THEY HEARD HER, EVERYBODY HAD STORIES WHERE FAMILY AND FRIENDS PASSED.

THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS LEGISLATION, I WANT YOU TO HEAR WHAT SHE SAID. BEGINNING FRIDAY FOR TEN YEARS, THIS COMMUNITY HAS THE STATE OF TEXAS RECOGNIZING SAFETY EDUCATION OF HUMAN BEINGS IN THE OCEAN FROM RIP CURRENTS AND RIP TIDES. THIS SHOULD BE BLASTED ALL OVER THE PLACE, THE COUNTRY ON WHAT SOUTH TEXAS IS DOING.

WE NEED TO START PROMOTING THE POSITIVE.

COUNTY OF NUECES, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, GONZALES, MAREZ, HERNANDEZ, JUDGE, YOU ALL WERE THERE.

YOU WERE THERE. NUECES COUNTY DIDN'T CHANGE ONE BIT. SO THE THING I WANT YOU TO KNOW IS THE IMPACT IS YOU'RE GOING TO SAVE PEOPLE'S LIVES.

THAT IS THE STORY. IT CAME FROM SOUTH TEXAS, COASTAL BEND. THE OTHER THING THAT SHE LIGHTLY HIT, IS THERE AN ANOTHER LAW THAT WAS PASSED BY THE COASTAL BEND IN SOUTH TEXAS, THAT PROVIDES LIFEGUARD PROTECTION, WHICH THE COUNTY WAS PART OF.

AND WE DID NAME THAT AFTER HER SON.

THAT GOES INTO LAW MORE THAN TEN YEARS.

SO MY MESSAGE TODAY IS BE HAPPY, BE PROUD, WE CAN COME BEFORE YOU AND SAY HEY, WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER.

AS I ALWAYS SAY, (SPEAKING SPANISH) WORKING TOGETHER, WE GET THINGS DONE. HERE IS AN EXAMPLE.

I WANT ALL OF YOU TO BE PROUD. I'M PROUD IN BE IN NUECES COUNTY. I'M PROUD TO BE IN THE COASTAL BEND. BECAUSE HERE IS A PIECE OF LEGISLATION WHERE WE MADE A DIFFERENCE AND WE'RE GOING TO SAVE PEOPLE. SO ALL I'M GOING TO SAY IS THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU, KAWANA. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING YOUR HUSBAND WHO IS IN THE HAIR CLUB WITH MEN WITH ME.

AND IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE AND THANK YOU, JUDGE.

COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU. THE COURT: THANK YOU ALL SO

VERY MUCH. >> CAN I MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT.

THE COURT: COMMISSIONER CHESNEY.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT TO SAY THAT THIS HAS BEEN A MISSION OF THIS FAMILY IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. I'M SORRY WE'RE HERE TODAY DOING THIS BECAUSE WE'RE DOING IT UNDER THE REASONS WE'RE DOING IT. BUT THE AWARENESS THAT THIS HAS CREATED AND THE AMAZING PHENOMENAL SUCCESS THAT THIS FAMILY HAS HAD IN HELPING US WITH BEACH SAFETY AND RIP CURRENT AWARENESS IS -- I DON'T HAVE WORDS FOR IT.

I APPRECIATE REPRESENTATIVE HUNTER AND HIS EFFORTS, HE WILL ACKNOWLEDGE AS I DO, I THINK EVERYONE ELSE DO, NONE OF THIS

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HAPPENS WITHOUT KAWANA AND HER FAMILY DOING WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

IT IS SERIOUS. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY REMEMBER. WE LOVE OUR BEACHES.

I LOVE GOING OUT THERE. I KNOW ALL OF US DO.

BUT WE LOVE WHEN OUR BEACHES ARE SAFE.

AND I JUST THINK IT'S ONLY APPROPRIATE THAT THE BASKETBALL TEAM WAS HERE TODAY. BECAUSE JAZANI LOVED BASKETBALL SO MUCH. SO I HOPE EVERYONE WILL TAKE NOTE AND TODD IS RIGHT, THIS SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE SHOUTING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY ON THE AWARENESS THAT HAS BEEN CREATED. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T JUST DO IT HERE. WE HAVE TO GO FARTHER, EVERYWHERE. THEY COME TO OUR COMMUNITY FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND THEY JUST DON'T KNOW.

SO THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE AND HAS BEEN DONE IS SO GREATLY APPRECIATED. AND TO BE A SMALL PART OF IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR. IT WILL, AS I'VE SAID, CONTINUE TO BE A MISSION OF MINE AND I APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE HERE TODAY AND APPRECIATE THE COURT'S SUPPORT ON ALL OF THIS AS WELL. SO THANK YOU, JUDGE.

THE COURT: THANK YOU. I WAS TRYING TO LOOK UP, KAWANA, BUT I BET YOU HAVE IT MEMORIZED.

THERE IS A VIDEO, IT'S SHORT AND IT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE.

IF YOU WATCH THAT VIDEO, YOU DO NOTHING ELSE, YOU WILL LEAVE HERE A MORE EDUCATED PERSON ABOUT RIP CURRENTS.

I WATCHED THIS VIDEO. I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A LITTLE AFRAID OF RIP CURRENTS. I WILL TELL YOU, I STILL DON'T THINK I HAD EVER REALLY SEEN ONE FROM AN AERIAL VIEW THE WAY THIS VIDEO SHOWS YOU. IT TELLS YOU EXACTLY WHAT TO DO. IT CAN SAVE YOUR LIFE OR SOMEBODY ELSE'S. EVEN IF YOU'RE THE ONE ON THE BEACH YELLING TO THAT LIFEGUARD THAT THERE IS A RIP CURRENT, IT CAN HAVE AN IMPORTANT EFFECT ON SOMEONE.

KAWANA, WOULD YOU JUST MENTION THAT VIDEO LINK AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TODAY, IN HONOR OF RIP CURRENT AWARENESS, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, I JUST GOT ALL OF OUR RED FLAG WARNINGS FOR FIRE AND RIP, AND WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE THAT VIDEO AS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BY EVERY RESIDENT AS

PART OF OUR RED FLAG DAY. >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW YOUR NAME, SORRY. MS. MORGAN.

ARE YOU CONTROLLING TECHNOLOGY? SHE CAN ACTUALLY GO TO BEACH SAFELY.ORG. INSTEAD OF GIVING YOU THE JAZANI SMITH FOUNDATION.ORG, WE CREATED A SHORTER URL FOR PEOPLE. THE COURT: THAT IS GREAT.

IF YOU GO TO -- GRACIOUS. WHAT WE DO EDUCATION.

GO UP TO EDUCATION. THERE IT IS.

AND THEN THERE IS A VIDEO. >> THERE IS SOME VIDEOS.

OH, GRACIOUS. GO BACK TO THE HOME PAGE.

YEAH. AND GO DOWN.

HERE WE GO. THE COURT: SO THIS IS THE ONE THAT I REALLY AM GOING TO URGE EVERYBODY, WE NEED TO DO A LINK TODAY, WHICH WE'LL GET DONE. THIS IS THE VIDEO, PROBABLY NO MORE THAN THREE, FOUR MINUTES MAYBE.

THAT IF YOU'LL WATCH THIS, YOU WILL ACTUALLY -- WE ONLY MAYBE SOMETIMES THINK WE KNOW WHAT A RIP CURRENT IS.

THIS WILL SHOW YOU WHAT A RIP CURRENT IS.

SHOW YOU WHAT TO DO. AND TODD, WHAT I WROTE IS HASHTAG THE GOOD STUFF. ITEM NUMBER 3 IS THE GOOD STUFF. WE ARE PROUD TO LIVE IN THE COASTAL BEND, WHERE WE KNOW THAT NUECES CARES.

BUT THANK YOU FOR HELPING US LIGHT THE FIRE.

AND MAY IT NEVER BURN OUT. >> YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE COURT: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

>> WE DO HAVE A FRAMED RESOLUTION THE COURT: YES. CHAIRMAN HUNTER, WOULD YOU ALL ACCOMPANY US UP FRONT AND WE HAVE A PRESENTATION AND MAYBE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A PHOTO FOR THE WEBSITE.

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MOTION IS COMBINED WITH ACTION, ONLY GOOD THINGS HAPPEN.

LET'S CONTINUE BOTH OF THOSE SENTIMENTS WITH THE REST OF OUR PROGRAM HERE. AND AGAIN, I AM NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND TO ALL OF THE PROCLAMATIONS.

I DO HAVE THAT IMPORTANT PUBLIC HEARING.

BUT I DO WANT TO RESPECT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF TEXAS A&M CORPUS CHRISTI HERE WITH US IN COMMISSIONERS

[2. In recognition of the Texas A&M University - Corpus Christi Islanders Men’s Basketball Program for their successful 2021-2022 season.]

COURT IN RECOGNITION OF ITEM H2, RECOGNITION OF TEXAS A&M CORPUS CHRISTI, ISLANDERS MENS BASKETBALL PROGRAM FOR THEIR UNBELIEVABLE AND INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL SEASON.

BELINDA HAS ALSO -- I DO KNOW. I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT BELINDA WILL TALK ABOUT THE SEASON AND THEN WE'LL GET RIGHT TO ITEM H1 AS WELL. GENTLEMEN, WELCOME.

I'VE NEVER HAD TO SAY THIS, BUT PLEASE WATCH YOUR HEAD.

ALSO THE COURT RECOGNIZES JOHN PALUMBO ATHLETIC DIRECTOR, OF COURSE, STAFF, COACHING STAFF WILL ALSO BE RECOGNIZED HERE,

INCLUDING COACH LAKSY. >> TEXAS A&M FINISHED SUCCESSFUL COLLEGE BASKETBALL TEAM IN WHICH THE TEAM WON SOUTHLAND CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT CONFERENCE.

QUALIFIED FOR THE NCAA MENS BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT.

THE ISLANDERS WON 23 GAMES, AFTER RECORDING FIVE WINS THE PREVIOUS SEASON. 18-WIN IMPROVEMENT MARKS THE BIGGEST TURN AROUND IN PROGRAM HISTORY AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST IMPROVEMENTS NATIONALLY ACROSS COLLEGE BASKETBALL FOR THE SEASON. ISLANDERS RANKED TOP FIVE IN THE COUNTRY WITH FREE THROW ATTEMPTS MADE.

THEIR STRONG WORK ETHIC DETERMINATION AND GENUINE CARE AND RESPECT FOR ONE ANOTHER CREATED A MEMORABLE CHAMPIONSHIP SEASON. WHEREAS, THE TEXAS A&M CORPUS CHRISTI ISLANDERS MENS BASKETBALL PLAYERS INCLUDE GRADUATE STUDENTS SAN ANTONIO BRENNON, ETHAN WHITE, MILES SMITH. JUNIORS, JALEN JACKSON, AND SOPHOMORE STEVEN FARAMADE. AND JORDAN ROBERTS.

COACHING STAFF FOR THE ISLANDERS BASKETBALL PROGRAM ARE HEAD COACH STEVE LUTZ. JIM SHAW.

DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS, DONALD REYES.

GRADUATE ASSISTANTS, ETHAN JACOBS AND JONATHAN BELL.

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF NUECES COUNTY THE COURT RECOGNIZES THE CORP. CORPUS CHRISTI BASKETBALL PROGRAM FOR THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENT AND

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ACHIEVEMENTS. >> SO MOVED THE COURT: SECOND. I'LL DEFER TO COACH LUTZ FIRST.

AND JUST WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, WOULD YOU INTRODUCE YOUR TEAM FOR US. AND THEN INTRODUCE OUR SPECIAL GUESTS AND THEN WE CAN TAKE IT FROM HERE AS TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS. BUT WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO

LET'S GO. >> WE'LL START IN THAT DIRECTION. JALEN JACKSON, FROM SAN ANTONIO. TYRESE NICKELSON.

SIMEON FRYER FROM PHILADELPHIA. ETHAN WHITE, FROM INDIANA.

JB AND ETHAN ARE GRADUATE ASSISTANTS.

JIM SHAW IS AN ASSISTANT COACH. JORDAN ROBERTS IS FROM ARLINGTON. STEVEN IS FROM HOUSTON.

MILES SMITH FROM HOUSTON. JASMINE SONGAS FROM TORONTO.

THE COURT: FANTASTIC. ON THE NEXT TRIP WE'LL MAKE ALL OF YOU NON-TEXANS HONORARY TEXANS AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET YOU SOME TEXAS FLAGS. THE TRUTH IS YOU MAKE OUR COMMUNITY BRIGHTER. IT'S NICE TO KNOW YOUR NAMES AND NICE TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE FROM. IT'S JUST, WERE YOU IN OUR COMMERCIAL? YEAH.

HEY, MAN, YOU DID GREAT. ACTING IS IN YOUR FUTURE.

BASKETBALL DOESN'T WORK OUT. AND SO I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY THANKS FOR YOUR SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY.

THAT IS WHAT WE CALL THE GOOD STUFF TOO.

SO COACH, WHAT AN AMAZING SEASON.

THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS TO SAY.

LET ME LET YOU TAKE OVER HERE. TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO YOU WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE. DR. MILLER, I'M HAPPY TO -- THIS IS YOUR MOMENT AND SHOW RIGHT NOW.

>> I THOUGHT KELLY WAS TALKING. THE COURT: THE COURT WILL

RECOGNIZE DR. MILLER. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. THIS HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLE SEASON AND AN ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE TEAM.

WE WANT TO SAY HISTORIC, BUT I KNOW THEY'VE JUST SET THE BAR AND WE PLAN TO KEEP THIS UP YEAR AFTER YEAR.

BUT I THINK YOU MENTIONED IN THE PROCLAMATION, BUT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE IS THAT THIS TEAM, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THREE FOLKS WHO STUCK IT OUT WITH US, THAT IS AWESOME, IS ALL NEW FOLKS.

THIS IS COACH LUTZ'S FIRST SEASON AS A HEAD COACH AND CAME AND JOINED US HERE AT THE ISLAND UNIVERSITY.

THEY CAME WITH A WINNING SPIRIT, THEY CAME TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT IS REALLY AND TRULY PHENOMENAL.

AND THE PROOF IS IN THEIR SUCCESS.

THEY ARE FUN TO WATCH. IF YOU HAVE NOT COME TO A BASKETBALL GAME, YOU NEED TO COME.

IT'S HIGH ENERGY, NON-STOP THE ENTIRE TIME.

BUT WHAT THEY ACCOMPLISHED IS INCREDIBLE AND AS I SAID, IT SETS THE BAR FOR A NEW TIME. AND WE'RE JUST HAPPY THAT WE GET TO KEEP COACH LUTZ WITH US. BECAUSE HE HAS DONE SUCH AN INCREDIBLE AND REMARKABLE JOB AS A HEAD COACH, RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE. I WOULD LIKE TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS IS, WHEN YOU MAKE IT TO MARCH MADNESS, I THINK IT WAS 1,407 PERCENT INCREASE IN HITS TO OUR WEBSITE. EVERYBODY WANTED TO KNOW WHERE THE ISLAND UNIVERSITY WAS. DO YOU REALLY HAVE A BEACH.

WHAT IS NUECES. DO YOU HAVE AN ISLAND? THAT WAS THE QUESTION WE WERE GETTING IN OHIO.

IT'S EXCITING TO PROMOTE OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY.

I THINK IT'S 34 MILLION PEOPLE WATCH MARCH MADNESS.

I THINK THAT IS THE RIGHT NUMBER.

34 MILLION PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THAT.

THE AMOUNT OF EXPOSURE WE COULD NOT BUY IN TERMS OF MARKETING, WHICH CERTAINLY LETS PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT OUR INCREDIBLE BASKETBALL PROGRAM, BUT IT ALSO LETS THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE THE NUMBER ONE UNIVERSITY BY THE SEA IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF OUR ACADEMIC PROGRAMS AS WELL AS OUR BEAUTIFUL BEACHES.

VERY HAPPY TO PROMOTE. VERY PROUD OF THIS GUY AND THE ENTIRE TEAM. VERY VERY EXCITING SEASON FOR MENS BASKETBALL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR PROCLAMATION. I KNOW SOME OF YOU, PARTICULARLY COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, ARE REGULAR ISLANDER BASKETBALL ATTENDEES. BUT WE INVITE YOU ALL OUT NEXT SEASON TO JOIN US. I THINK YOU WILL BECOME ADDICTED AND COME BACK EVERY TIME BECAUSE IT'S SO EXCITING.

>> JUDGE, IF I COULD FOR A SECOND TOO, I WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE. WHEN I PUT THIS ON, I WAS SADDENED THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A MEETING BEFORE THE CITY, BECAUSE THE CITY GOT YOU FIRST. WE WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT WE REPRESENT THE ENTIRE COUNTY. THAT WAS JUST NOTHING COMPARED TO THIS. THIS IS THE WHOLE COUNTY OF

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NUECES. AND TRULY WE ARE SUPER PROUD OF EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE.

I'VE KNOWN MYLES A LONG TIME. HE IS A GREAT TIME.

I KNOW EVERYBODY ON THIS TEAM REFLECTS WHAT COACH STANDS FOR.

THIS STARTS AT THE TOP, GUYS. YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT.

DR. MILLER IS SO COMMITTED TO ATHLETICS.

NOT EVERY UNIVERSITY PRESIDENT IS.

AND SHE WAS 100 PERCENT COMMITTED TO ATHLETICS.

SHE GETS THE VALUE OF WHAT IT WILL DO TO ENHANCE CORPUS CHRISTI AND SOME OF THE PROGRAMS HAD HAD GREAT SUCCESS THERE AND WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE COACH CHADWICK WHO HAS HAD SOME OF THE GREATEST SUCCESS THERE IN A FEW MOMENTS.

THERE IS A LITTLE TRICKLE DOWN HERE.

DR. MILLER GETS IN HERE AND SHE SAYS WE HAVE TO PUT MORE EMPHASIS ON ATHLETICS. WHEN SHE ASKED ME TO BE ON THE SELECTION COMMITTEE FOR THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR, I WAS HONORED. SHE SAID THIS IS A BIG DEAL.

SHE SAID ATHLETICS IS A SUPER BIG PRIORITY.

SHE THEN ALLOWED THE COMMUNITY TO GET TOGETHER AND WE WERE ABLE TO HIRE JOHN, SHE DID IT. AND HE HIRED COACH LUTZ, WHICH THEN BROUGHT MOST OF YOU IN AND LOOK AT WHAT HAS HAPPENED BECAUSE YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY WHO PICKED AN ATHLETIC DIRECTOR, WHO PICKED A COACH, WHO PICKED ALL OF YOU.

SO IT DOES MATTER WHO IS AT THE HELM REALLY DOES MATTER.

SO WE'RE HAPPY ABOUT THE SUCCESS THAT YOU HAVE HAD.

THE BAR IS PRETTY HIGH. SO WE EXPECT TO SEE YOU GUYS NOW EVERY YEAR COMING BACK EVERY YEAR, GOING.

BECAUSE YOU CAN DO IT. WE KNOW THE SOUTHLAND IS A CONFERENCE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE SHOWN MASTER MVP OF THE TOURNAMENT. WATCHING YOU PLAY WAS PHENOMENAL. IT'S JUST BEEN REALLY FUN TO WATCH. I WORE MY SHIRT IN HONOR OF YOU GUYS TODAY. AND I'LL WEAR THAT PROUDLY ALL DAY LONG. YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY HELPED PUT YOUR UNIVERSITY EVEN MORE SO ON THE MAP THAN IT WAS.

I HEARD SOME OF THE FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS TOO THAT PLAYING IN ONE GAME MAKES, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS.

YOU GET SOME PAY-OUT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.

IT'S CRAZY THE KIND OF MONEY THAT THE NCAA TOURNAMENT HELPS.

SO THANK YOU REALLY, THE END OF MY COMMENTS ARE THANK YOU FOR COMING TO CORPUS CHRISTI, BECAUSE Y'ALL CAME FROM DIFFERENT PLACES. I KNOW YOU WERE AT NORTH TEXAS.

I FOLLOWED YOUR CAREER SINCE YOU WERE HIGH SCHOOL.

WE WATCHED A LOT OF YOU GUYS PLAY ALL OVER THE PLACE.

THANK YOU FOR COMING TO CORPUS CHRISTI.

I WANT TO MENTION, I SHOULD HAVE PUT IT IN THE RESOLUTION, BUT COACH LUTZ IS ONE OF I THINK 15 FIRST YEAR COACHES UP FOR THE JOE B HALL FIRST YEAR COACH NATIONALLY.

YOU SHOULD SEE THE LIST THAT HE'S IN CONTENTION WITH.

PHENOMENAL. SO THAT IS ALL YOU GUYS.

YOU PROPPED HIM UP. HE IS A GREAT COACH, BUT WITHOUT GREAT PLAYERS, HE WOULDN'T BE UP FOR THOSE AWARDS. WITHOUT GREAT PLAYERS, HE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE SUCCESS AND WITHOUT A GREAT COACH AND STAFF AND ATHLETIC DIRECTOR AND PRESIDENT. IT ALL WORKS TOGETHER.

I TALK MORE ON BASKETBALL THAN I PROBABLY WOULD OTHER THINGS.

BUT WE ARE SO PUMPED. THE COURT: I WAS GOING TO ASK THEM TO COME BACK EVERY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

THIS IS THE KIND OF MOOD THAT YOU PUT HIM IN.

>> WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL OF THE CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES NEXT BECAUSE I'M IN A GOOD MOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND I'M GOING TO SAY AS MUCH GREAT THINGS ABOUT COACH CHADWICK IN A MINUTE TOO. BUT WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. I KNOW YOU ALL HAD OTHER OPTIONS. YOU BELIEVED IN COACH LUTZ AND CORPUS CHRISTI, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE ARE SUPER APPRECIATIVE OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND WE WILL NOT FORGET IT.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU BACK HERE NEXT YEAR FOR THOSE COMING BACK. I KNOW MYLES IS PROBABLY DONE AFTER ABOUT 16 YEARS OF PLAYING.

BUT THERE IS ALWAYS A GUY THAT STICKS AROUND FOREVER, MAN, WE'RE SURE GLAD IT WAS MYLES. HE WAS DEFINITELY MY SON'S FAVORITE AND OUR FAMILY'S FAVORITE.

WE KNOW WHAT A THRILL IT WAS FOR YOU TO GET THERE.

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL YOU GUYS.

[APPLAUSE] >> COACH, AS AN ALUM OF THE ISLANDERS, I'M SUPER PROUD OF MY SCHOOL, CHEERING ALL THE WAY. WATCHING YOU GUYS PLAY ON TV WAS SO EXCITING. FOR MY 15-YEAR-OLD TO BE ABLE TO WATCH OUR HOME TOWN TEAM PLAY ON THE BIG SCREEN.

YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE HE WATCHES NBA AND THE OTHER SPORTS WAS SO FUN FOR US. AND SUCH A BONDING EXPERIENCE FOR US TO CHEER FOR YOU ALL THROUGH THE CONFERENCE, AND THEN ULTIMATELY TO THE BIG SHOW.

SO I'M REALLY PROUD. YOU KNOW, COACH, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB, PHENOMENAL JOB. THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THIS QUALITY HERE IS SO EXCITING. AND WE KNOW THAT BASKETBALL IS

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SUCH A GAME OF MOMENTUM, TIPPED A LITTLE AT THE END AGAINST US.

BUT WE KNOW THAT THE FUTURE YEARS, THIS IS REALLY SETTING IT UP. EVERY TIME I WAS POSTING AND RETWEETING AND LIKING. I'M LIKE GOSH, I SHOULDN'T BE, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO KNOW ABOUT COACH LUTZ BECAUSE SOMEBODY MAY COME AND TRY TO TAKE HIM.

BUT I HOPE THAT YOU STAY WITH US AS LONG AS YOU CAN, COACH AND CONTINUE TO BRING THE TEAMS THAT YOU DO, PRIDE ISN'T A WORD THAT I CAN'T FIND ANOTHER WORD TO SAY.

HOW EXCITED I AM FOR WHAT WE'VE DONE, WHAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE.

AND TO BE ABLE TO WALK AROUND MY HOUSEHOLD AND I HAVE A DAUGHTER WHO UNFORTUNATELY, SHE IS GOING TO UT IN THE FALL.

I WANTED HER TO STAY HERE. AND SHE'S LIKE WHY ARE YOU SO EXCITED, DAD? THIS IS MY TEAM.

THIS IS MY TEAM. THEY'RE HERE ON THE BIG SCREEN.

SO THAT WAS SO FUN FOR ME AND SPECIAL.

I HAD THE WHOLE FAMILY CHEERING AS WE WERE WATCHING THE FINAL GAME AS WELL. BUILD ON THIS.

CONTINUE TO BUILD UP THE MOMENTUM THAT YOU BROUGHT ATHLETICALLY AND ACADEMICALLY. THOSE JERSEYS ARE UNBELIEVABLE.

I HAD A BIRTHDAY NOT TOO LONG AGO.

I WANTED THAT FOR MY BIRTHDAY. I DID NOT GET IT.

IF I CAN GET ONE, I'LL GO BEAT SOMEONE UP IF I HAVE TO GET ONE. BECAUSE THOSE ARE JUST TALK ABOUT ADVERTISEMENT. JUST REALLY UNIQUE.

NOT THE PLAIN TEXAS OR TEXAS A&M.

WHICH BY THE WAY, Y'ALL DID BIGGER THAN THE OTHER CAMPUS TO MAKE IT TO THE SHOW. SO THAT IS A POINT OF PRIDE THAT I TAKE AS WELL WITH THIS TEAM.

THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL YOU DO. THANKS TO COMMISSIONER CHESNEY FOR BRINGING THIS BEFORE YOU. LET'S GO.

>> JUDGE, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALIZED THE SACRIFICE THAT THESE ATHLETES MAKE. MY SON WAS A REGISTERED FRESHMAN UP IN MASSACHUSETTS PLAYING D1 BASKETBALL.

THEY DON'T GET TO GO HOME FOR THANKSGIVING OR CHRISTMAS.

I GET IT. THEY GET PAID TO PLAY BASKETBALL. BUT THEY SACRIFICE A TON OF FAMILY TIME TO DO THIS. AGAIN, THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH.

BECAUSE MAN, YOU REALLY, YOU JUST DID SO WELL.

I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SACRIFICE.

I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO BE A STUDENT ATHLETE, STUDY, TRAVELLING. YOU GUYS WERE ALL OVER THE PLACE. COACH TOOK YOU COOL PLACES TO PLAY THIS YEAR. NOTRE DAME GAME WAS FUN TO WATCH. CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN.

THE COURT: BEFORE I CALL THE VOTE, I WANT TO SAY PARTICULARLY, THOSE OF YOU FAR AWAY FROM HOME, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THIS IS YOUR HOME. THE MEMORIES THAT YOU MAKE IN COLLEGE ARE GOING TO STAY WITH YOU FOREVER.

AND THE GUYS THAT YOU LOOK LEFT AND RIGHT WITH, AND YOUR COACHES, THEY WILL BE YOUR FRIENDS FOREVER.

SO JUST ALWAYS THINK OF THIS AS YOUR HOME.

AND I HOPE THAT IT BRINGS YOU BACK ONE DAY, IN WHATEVER FORM OR FASHION. WHETHER IT'S YOUR CAREER, YOUR VACATION, JUST A GOOD REUNION. BUT FROM OUR HEARTS, WE REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE ONE OF OUR OWN.

YOU'RE LIKE OUR SONS. SO I HOPE THAT YOU FEEL THAT LOVE RIGHT BACK AT YOU. HERE IS HOW WE SHOW IT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. IF YOU ALL WILL STICK AROUND, I BET YOU WANT TO CHEER FOR THIS NEXT ONE.

[1. In recognition of Coach Royce Chadwick's accomplishments.]

IT'S ITEM H1. -- LET'S DO H1 AND THEN WE'LL GET ALL THOSE PICTURES SIMULTANEOUSLY.

IT WILL GO BETTER. FOR THE COURT MANAGER, I'M GOING TO ASK THAT YOU AT LEAST TEXT OUR FOLKS FROM ASCENDA AND GIVE THEM A TIMING OF TEN MINUTES.

IN RECOGNITION OF COACH ROYCE CHADWICK'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS, WE

HAVE A SPECIAL PRESENTATION. >> YES, JUDGE.

ISLANDERS WOMEN'S BASKETBALL PROGRAM LED BY COACH ROYCE CHADWICK FINISHED A SUCCESSFUL 2022 SEASON BY SECURING A DOUBLE BUY AND EARNED THE NUMBER TWO SEED.

HEAD COACH ROYCE CHADWICK BROKE THE RECORD FOR THE MOST CONFERENCES IN A COACHING CAREER.

SURPASSED JAMES SMITH MARK OF 2010 AT THE NORTHWESTERN STATE.

CHADWICK'S CAREER SLC RECORD INCLUDING 13 WINS AT SAM HOUSTON AND 87 AT TEXAS ALGORITHM CORPUS CHRISTI.

A&M. COACH CHADWICK REACHED 700TH CAREER WIN AS A HEAD COACH ON JANUARY 22, 2022.

57-44 VICTORY AT THE AMERICAN BANK CENTER.

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HIS FIRST SEASON WAS IN 1984, AS HIS CAREER HAS SPANNED OVER FOUR DECADES. TWO-TIME SLC COACH OF THE YEAR AT A&M CORPUS CHRISTI. COACH CHADWICK COACHED THE ISLANDERS TO HIS BEST SEASON IN SCHOOL HISTORY IN 2019-2020 WITH A 23-7 RECORD AND WON THE SLC REGULAR SEASON.

THE FIRST TITLE IN PROGRAM HISTORY.

CHADWICK LED A&M CORPUS CHRISTI TO ITS FIRST EVER 14-0 RECORD.

ISLANDERS OUTSCORED THE OPPOSITION 960-703.

LONGEST ACTIVE WINNING STREAKS IN THE COUNTRY.

NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF NUECES COUNTY THAT THE COURT HEREBY RECOGNIZES COACH CHADWICK FOR HIS ATHLETIC ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND

ACHIEVEMENTS. >> SO MOVED.

THE COURT: MOTION AND A SECOND, RESOUNDING SECOND BY ALL.

AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF DR. MILLER, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS INCREDIBLE ACHIEVEMENT.

>> JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING COACH CHADWICK.

THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE COACH, AN INCREDIBLE MAN.

I AM A GIANT FAN. IF YOU AS YOU'RE HEARING ALL OF THOSE ACCOMPLISHMENTS, I HOPE YOU PULLED OUT THE PIECE THAT HE DID NOT LOSE A SINGLE GAME THIS SEASON AT HOME.

IF YOU CAME TO WATCH THE ISLANDERS WOMEN'S BASKETBALL TEAM, NOT A SINGLE GAME WAS LOST.

WE WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP THE YEAR BEFORE COVID ROLLED IN AND THEY WERE ON THEIR WAY TO GREAT VICTORY AT THAT TIME.

WHEN COVID HAPPENED AND EVERYTHING STOPPED.

BUT I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT WE WILL HAVE AN EXTREMELY HARD CHOICE NEXT YEAR TO DECIDE HOW WE WILL SPLIT UP THE BAND AND CHEER SQUAD, AS WE HAVE TWO TEAMS, MENS AND WOMEN'S GOING TO THE DANCE. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT DIFFICULT DECISION BECAUSE OUR MEN'S BASKETBALL TEAM HAS SET THE BAR FOR THEIR PROGRAM AND WE ARE VERY EXCITED.

BUT OUR WOMEN'S BASKETBALL TEAM IS SECOND TO NONE.

THEY ARE INCREDIBLE. IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF THE LEADERSHIP OF THIS INCREDIBLE MAN.

THE COURT: COACH, WELCOME. >> I'M HONORED, FLATTERED.

I GET TO SIT AT THE HEAD OF THE BENCH AND THE GREAT PEOPLE SIT BESIDE ME. I'VE GOT ASSISTANT COACHES, JANESICA WALLER, STEVE FERRIS AND ROXANNE WHITE IS GETTING BACK. WE'RE GOING TO BRING OUR TEAM NEXT YEAR. A LOT OF GREAT ADMINISTRATORS, PLAYERS. VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE BEEN AROUND THEM. AND I AM SO GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF THE KIND WORDS. IT SOUNDS LIKE MY MOTHER WROTE THE INFORMATION FOR YOU. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND I'M FLATTERED AND HONORED. >> I GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO KNOW COACH CHADWICK BECAUSE HE SAT ON THAT SAME SELECTION COMMITTEE THAT I REFERENCED EARLIER.

HE DID HELP GET YOU HIRED. WHAT A GOOD GUY AND YOU KNOW, STEVEN KING TOLD ME EARLIER IN THE YEAR, HE SAID HEY, YOU KNOW, ROYCE IS GETTING CLOSE TO THIS RECORD.

MAN, MAKE SURE YOU TELL ME WHEN HE GETS IT BECAUSE I WANT TO DO SOMETHING SPECIAL FOR HIM AT THE COUNTY.

YOU CAN THANK STEVEN FOR MAKING ME INITIALLY AWARE OF IT.

YOU GOT ALL OF THE PR. I WOULD HAVE PICKED UP ON IT HOPEFULLY LATER. BUT WHAT A HIGH CHARACTER GUY.

COACH CHADWICK NOT ONLY WINS A LOT OF GAMES BUT HE DOES IT WITH CLASS AND GRACE AND STYLE. JUST A GOOD MAN.

WINNINGEST COACH IN SOUTHLAND CONFERENCE HISTORY.

BIG DEAL. I MEAN, THAT IS A LOT OF WINS.

BEEN A VERY VERY TOUGH CONFERENCE TO WIN GAMES IN OVER THE YEARS. YOUR ACHIEVEMENTS HERE ARE SECOND TO NONE. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, I FOLLOW BASKETBALL A LITTLE BIT, COACH CHADWICK, HE HAD A GREAT TEAM THIS YEAR, THE BEST TEAM, THEY WERE DESTINED WAS COVID YEAR. UNFORTUNATELY, GOING INTO THE TOURNAMENT AS NUMBER ONE SEED. DESTROYING EVERYBODY.

AND THEN UNFORTUNATELY COVID HIT AND I THINK THAT ONE GOT STOLEN FROM YOU, COACH, OR YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN UP HERE.

BECAUSE THAT WAS THE YEAR. BOY, YOU LOST A TOUGH ONE THIS YEAR. I THINK IT WAS AN OVERTIME LOSS, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. YOU HAD A GREAT SEASON AND GREAT YOUNG LADIES THAT PLAY FOR YOU.

AND YOUR TEAM REFLECTS YOU, JUST LIKE THESE GUYS REFLECT COACH LUTZ. YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A GREAT ROLE MODEL AND EXAMPLE NOT ONLY AS A COACH, BUT AS A PERSON.

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SO CONGRATULATIONS ON BEHALF OF ALL OF NUECES COUNTY.

IT'S AN HONOR TO REPRESENT THE ISLAND UNIVERSITY AND I TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN THAT. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BECOME HERE TODAY. I'M GLAD WE BROUGHT YOUR CHEERING SECTION WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU DESERVE EVERY BIT OF THE RECOGNITION, CONGRATULATIONS.

[APPLAUSE] THE COURT: THANK YOU.

THEY SAY THAT EXCELLENCE IS A HABIT.

AND I DO BELIEVE THAT TEXAS A&M CORPUS CHRISTI, UNDER YOU, OUR NEW COACH, THESE TYPES OF INCREDIBLE STUDENT ATHLETES, ARE JUST A CONTINUATION OF THAT HABIT OF EXCELLENCE.

THIS IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT, IS CREATING AN EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY INSIDE OF AN OPPORTUNITY OF A LIFETIME TO DO WHAT YOU LOVE AND MOLD OTHERS.

I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE'VE HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO GATHER, REMIND OURSELVES THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS COMPLEX.

IT'S MADE UP OF ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES AND BUSINESSES. YOU KNOW, THE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY THAT WE WERE AFFORDED LONG LONG AGO, WHEN TEXAS A&M WAS BUT A THOUGHT OF BEING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR HISTORICALLY REALLY UNDER-PRIVILEGED AND MINORITY CHILDREN TO HAVE AN EDUCATION. IT STARTED WITH A PROMISE.

AND WHAT WE'VE BUILT TOGETHER IS REALLY JUST PHENOMENAL.

I MEAN, THERE OUGHT TO BE A TOP TEN OF UNIVERSITY LEADERS IN THE COUNTRY, ALONG WITH THE TOP TEN COACHES.

BECAUSE DR. MILLER WOULD BE TOP OF THAT LIST.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALL FEEL THE SAME WAY.

IT ALL STARTS FROM THE TOP. SO MY GRATEFULNESS IS TO CHANCELLOR SHARP, WHO CHOSE, AS LONG AS WE'RE GIVING CREDIT, THANK YOU CHANCELLOR SHARP FOR BRINGING US DR. MILLER, WHO HAS

BROUGHT US ALL OF YOU. >> I WANT TO CONFESS.

I DON'T GET HIGH LIKE THESE GUYS DO BY BASKETBALL.

>> WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THAT. >> I'M AN RAQUETBALL PLAYER.

EVEN FOOTBALL, WHEN ROGERS WALKED OFF THE FIELD, I WALKED OFF THE FIELD. I HAVEN'T SEEN THE COWBOYS IN 15, 20 YEARS AGO, I GUESS. THE COURT: TRY 50.

>> I JUST WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS AND DR. MILLER, YOU KNOW EDUCATION, I PUSH EDUCATION A LOT.

EDUCATION IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU GUYS CAN HAVE IN YOUR LIFE. YOU CAN BE THE BEST BASKETBALL PLAYER YOU WANT TO BE. BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN EDUCATION YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME ANYWHERE.

SO GET YOUR EDUCATION WHEN YOU CAN.

GET IT DONE. AND LIKE NIKE SAYS, JUST DO IT.

WE MEAN NUECES COUNTY COUNTY IS OUR HOME AND ITS IT'S YOUR HOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DR.

MILLER. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.

I KNOW I'LL BE TALKING TO YOU LATER ON ABOUT OTHER THINGS.

AND COACHES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. >> JUDGE, I DIDN'T KNOW AS THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR WANTED TO SAY ANYTHING OR NOT.

I DIDN'T WANT TO OVERLOOK YOU. THAT'S OKAY.

>> JUDGE, I WANT TO ADD SOMETHING.

>> FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE YOUNG GENTLEMEN FOR CHOOSING CORPUS CHRISTI TO COME PLAY.

THE ONE THAT STANDS OUT TO ME BECAUSE I SAW HIM ON THE NEWS, THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE CONGO, YOU COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR MOM ON SATELLITE OR HOW YOU DO IT, BUT IT'S LATE AT NIGHT.

SO I APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT AND ALWAYS KEEPING YOUR MOM IN YOUR HEART AND IN YOUR MIND. BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR DEMONSTRATING WHAT Y'ALL DID HERE FOR CORPUS CHRISTI.

CONGRATULATIONS. THE COURT: THANK YOU.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TAKE AN OFFICIAL PHOTO.

THERE ARE A LOT OF US. BUT TYPICALLY WHAT WE CAN DO IS HAVE SOME OF YOU COME TO THE DIACE.

AND THEN WE'LL MAKE ANOTHER SEMI CIRCLE HERE.

WOULD ALL OF THE BASKETBALL COME FIRST.

>> JUDGE, WE CAN'T STAND BEHIND THEM.

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THE COURT: I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT THEY COULD BE

BEHIND US. >> IT WILL NOT WORK WITH THEM AHEAD OF US. THE COURT: AND THEN WE'LL DO COACH CHADWICK, I'M HAPPY TO DO EVERYBODY TOGETHER.

HOWEVER YOU SEE FIT, DR. MILLER.

THE COURT: WE HAVE DR. MORENO ON THE LINE.

OH, MY GOSH. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

PLEASE TURN YOUR ATTENTION FOR THOSE OF YOU ONLINE TO ITEM C4.

[4. Discuss and consider approval of Repairs to the Nueces County Memorial Agriculture Center-Old Show Barn Facility.]

IT WAS -- IT'S AN ITEM THAT REVOLVES AROUND THE REPAIRS TO NUECES COUNTY MEMORIAL AGRICULTURE CENTER.

WE KNOW THIS AS THE OLD SHOW BARN.

BUT THIS FACILITY WE HAVE AN ITEM THAT PERTAINS TO IT.

AND I'LL ALLOW COMMISSIONER MAREZ, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START THE INTRODUCTION AND LET DR. MORENO WEIGH IN

>> SURE. IT'S UNDER PUBLIC WORKS.

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I APPRECIATE THE WORK JUAN PIMENTEL HAS HELPED ME WITH.

WE TOOK A TOUR WITH DR. MORENO AND BOARD PRESIDENT AS WELL.

BUT WE ENTERED ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS, RIGHT BEFORE DR.

MORENO CAME ON BOARD AS SUPERINTENDENT ISD, WE WERE APPROACHED BY THE BOARD THEN. UNDER THE DIRECTION ACTUALLY JAVIER GONZALES, YOU WERE THE INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT.

SO THE CONVERSATION STARTED TO UTILIZE THE OLD SHOW BARN FOR ROBSTOWN ISD BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A SHOWBARN THEMSELVES. WE HAD A BUILDING NOT BEING UTILIZED. WE HAVE BEEN USING PINS OUT IN THE FRONT. AND WE'RE GOING TO DO WORK ON THAT AT A LATER POINT AS WELL. THIS COURT APPROVED THAT WE ALLOW AND GO TO A LEASE TO ALLOW ROBSTOWN ISD TO USE THIS FOR THEIR STUDENTS PREPARING AND TAKING CARE OF ANIMALS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. IT'S BEEN -- THEY'VE REALLY FIXED IT UP, JUDGE AND COURT, THEY HAVE PUT A LOT OF THEIR OWN TIME AND EFFORT TO CLEAN UP THE FACILITY.

BECAUSE IT WAS JUST AN OLD ABANDONED BUILDING WE HAD NOT USED IN YEARS. PRETTY MUCH EVER SINCE WE MOVED OVER TO THE FAIRGROUNDS. WITH ALL OF THIS GOING ON, WITH ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THEY'VE MADE IT'S STILL A VERY OLD BUILDING. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS NOTICED, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE WOULD HAVE RAIN EVENTS, WAS THAT THERE WAS GAPS, PRETTY SIZEABLE GAPS, JUAN COULD GIVE US MORE DESCRIPTION. BUT ACTUALLY A ROOF THAT WAS NO LONGER EVEN TOUCHING. YOU HAVE HUGE GAPS, WHERE RAIN AND THE ELEMENTS ARE ABLE TO GET IN.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY KIND OF SPACED THE ANIMALS SO THAT THEY'RE NOT WHERE THE RAINWATER WILL FALL.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE FELT AND BELIEVED THAT COULD BE FIXED AND PRETTY QUICK SHORT ORDER.

SO WE TOOK A TOUR, RIGHT AROUND THE HOLIDAYS, I BELIEVE IT WAS DECEMBER OF 2021. AND SO WE GOT TO SEE REALLY FIRSTHAND WHAT WAS NEEDED. SO I HAD ASKED JUAN TO HELP ME WITH THIS. WHAT ARE SOME SOLUTIONS THAT WE COULD FIND AREAS THAT ARE QUICK FIX, SPRUCE UP THE AREA, MATCH WITH THE EFFORT THAT IS BEING PUT TO FIX THIS UP.

ALSO I'M GOING TO ASK THAT AT SOME POINT WE CAN GET A LONGER TERM AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

BECAUSE I WANT TO PUT MONEY INTO THIS AND HOPEFULLY IF THE COURT APPROVES TODAY, THIS IS MY MONEY, ACTUALLY.

IF THE COURT DOES APPROVE TODAY, WE WANT TO PROTECT OUR INVESTMENT. SO MAYBE PERHAPS SOMETHING LONG-TERM LIKE A 30-YEAR LEASE THAT WE COULD GO INTO, SHOW OUR COMMITMENT. BECAUSE I'M GIVING MY COMMITMENT. WE HAVE A DOCUMENT WE APPROVED PREVIOUSLY. BUT THAT CAN ONLY GO SO FAR.

SO IF WE COULD COMMIT SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY OUTLAST ALL OF US, I THINK THAT WOULD SHALL GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY BE GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY. JUAN, IF YOU WANT TO TALK AS

WELL. >> JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, GOOD MORNING. YOU'RE CORRECT, BACK IN DECEMBER, WE TOOK A TOUR OF THE FACILITY.

THE ROOF NEEDS SOME IMPROVEMENT.

NEED TO HAVE SOME HOLES ON THE ROOF THAT NEED TO BE REPAIRED AND ALSO TO DO A SEAL ON IT. SO WE WENT OUT AND REQUESTED SOME INFORMAL BIDS FROM CONTRACTORS.

AND GOT A PROPOSAL FOR THAT. AND THEN ALSO, COMMISSIONER, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, THE SUN LIGHT GOING THROUGH THE BUILDING ON TOP OF THE ROOF.

THE EAVES AND FLASHING IS NOT THERE.

AND SOME OF THE STRUCTURAL INTERIOR COMPONENTS NEED TO BE SANDBLASTED, OR PRESSURE WASHED, PAINT AND SO WE GOT A PROPOSAL ALSO FOR THAT. AND THEN ALSO FOR THE WINDOWS, THE WINDOWS NEED TO GET RESEALED AND SOME OF THE WINDOWS NEED TO GET REPLACED. ALSO SOME OF THE INTERIORS, RESTROOMS NEED TO BE CLEANED UP.

SO THAT IS PART OF THE PROPOSAL THAT WE GOT.

THERE IS THREE PROPOSALS, ONE IS FOR THE ROOF.

ONE IS FOR THE INTERIOR AND THE OTHER ONE FOR THE WINDOWS.

INTERIOR INCLUDES THE REPAIRS TO SOME OF THE STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS AND THEN ALSO INCLUDES DOING SOME UPGRADES TO THE RESTROOMS THAT ARE IN DIRE NEED.

SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE PROPOSALS, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

THE COURT: SO COULD YOU PLEASE JUST TELL US FIRST, FOR THE RECORD THE AMOUNT AND THEN PLEASE I BELIEVE IT'S COMING, COMMISSIONER PRECINCT THREE, BUT JUST AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD

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THERE IS A NUMBER ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

LIKE NUMBER 01. >> 1388.

THE COURT: 1388, FOR THE RECORD.

>> YES, MA'AM. FOR THE ROOF, IT'S FOR $40,000, 265. THAT IS TO REPAIR THE HOLES ON TOP OF THE ROOF. INTERIOR, 35,553, THAT IS FOR THE RESTROOMS AND STRUCTURAL COMPONENT.

WINDOWS IS 19,735. COMMISSIONER SAID, IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE ANY FURTHER DAMAGE, IT IS AN EMERGENCY FIX THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, JUDGE. SO THAT WAY TO MINIMIZE ANYMORE DAMAGE INSIDE THE FACILITY. THE COURT: OKAY.

SO I IMAGINE YOU WILL WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION, COMMISSIONER.

>> YES. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD.

THE COURT: I'LL SECOND. >> I DID ASK JUAN TO BREAK THIS DOWN. IF IT WAS THE COURT'S WILL TO NOT MAYBE COMMIT THAT MUCH TO IT.

WE WANT TO GET A LEASE SECURED. THERE ARE PARTS FLOATING AROUND. BUT EVEN IF THERE WASN'T, I STILL WANTED AT LEAST A ROOF THRESHOLD TO BE BELOW THE $50,000 THRESHOLD, BUT STILL WANTED TO COME BEFORE THE COURT. THE ENTIRE PRICE TAG IS CLOSER TO 100,000. OBVIOUSLY THAT IS WHY WE WANTED COURT APPROVAL. EVEN IF WE JUST RECEIVED COURT APPROVAL TODAY ON THE ROOF, WE COULD GET STARTED ON THAT PART AND THEN COME BACK, PUT OUT ANOTHER BID IF WE NEEDED TO FOR THE INTERIOR, WINDOWS. BUT I FEEL CONFIDENT IN THE TWO BIDS THAT WE RECEIVED, PRETTY CLOSE.

BUT ONE IS OBVIOUSLY BETTER BARGAIN FOR US.

LIKE I SAID, IT COMES FROM FUNDS 1388, THANK YOU, THERESA.

AVAILABLE FUNDS FOR THAT. MY MOTION WOULD BE TO SUPPORT THE TOTAL PRICE TAG FOR ROOF, INTERIOR.

>> HOLD ON. >> FOR THE THREE ITEMS.

>> WE CAN DO ALL OF THEM BECAUSE IT SAYS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF REPAIRS. IT DOESN'T SAY ROOF.

WE OUGHT TO DO THE WHOLE THING. I'LL SECOND THAT IF YOU WANT TO

DO THE WHOLE THING. >> I KNOW MORENO IS HERE.

>> 95,553. >> HONORABLE JUDGE CANALES AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING THIS AGENDA ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA.

AGAIN, MS. CARZA, OUR BOARD PRESIDENT IS HERE, REPRESENTING OUR SCHOOL BOARD. BUT I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF OUR STUDENTS AS A SUPERINTENDENT.

I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH US.

IT TRULY TAKES A VILLAGE TO RAISE ONE CHILD.

ULTIMATELY, WHEN WE WORK IN PARTNERSHIP LIKE THIS, IT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW KIDS BENEFIT AS A WHOLE.

THIS IS A GROWING PROGRAM. I THINK IT ALSO SENDS A STRONG MESSAGE OF BEING ABLE TO REVITALIZE CURRENT BUILDINGS IN THE COMMUNITY AND EVERYBODY PUT A LITTLE SOMETHING TO IT, YOU AS A COUNTY, OF COURSE, KNOWING THAT POTENTIALLY WE HAVE A LONGER LEASE AGREEMENT AND WE WILL CONTINUE ADDRESSING OURSELVES. TWO ENTITIES COMING TOGETHER, MAKING CHANGES FOR KIDS. WHAT MORE DO WE WANT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. >> EXCUSE ME, JUDGE, I JUST WANT TO ASK, DID IT HAVE ANY HURRICANE DAMAGE OR COVERED BY

INSURANCE? >> I DON'T THINK WE EVER -- I DON'T KNOW. I CAN'T RECALL IF WE ASSESSED

IT OR NOT. >> I'M JUST SAYING IF THE ROOF WAS DAMAGED, MAYBE INSURANCE COULD COVER IT.

OR DO WE HAVE INSURANCE ON IT? >> I AM NOT SURE.

THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I DISCUSSED WITH JUAN OR WE EVER

HEARD FROM RISK MANAGEMENT. >> GOOD MORNING.

COMMISSIONER MAREZ, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THE TIME FOR OUR KIDS. I APPRECIATE IT, BEING A R ROBSTOWN LIFE-LONG RESIDENT. WHEN TWO ENTITIES WORK TOGETHER, GREAT THINGS HAPPEN. SINCERE THANKFUL TO YOU GUYS.

THANK YOU, MORENO. I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO KNOW HIM BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE HIM FROM US.

BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO AND I APPRECIATE YOU AND I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE SCHOOL BOARD AND STUDENTS. THANK YOU.

>> LIKE I SAID, MR. GONZALES IS HERE, HE DESCRIBED THE BIG OLD FANS, THERE ARE BIG FANS THAT THIS COURT APPROVED BACK A FEW YEARS AGO. WE WON'T GO INTO IT.

BUT THEY HAVE A UNIQUE NAME FOR THE FANS AND SIZE OF FANS.

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THE COURT: JUAN IS GOING TO COME BACK AND WE HAVE THERESA WHO WANTS TO TALK ABOUT DOLLARS.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TOTAL AMOUNT IS 95,553.

THE TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT. THE COURT: FOR EVERYTHING.

REALLY THE WHOLE THING. LET'S ASK THERESA, SHE MAY WANT TO HAVE A CORRECTION OR COMMENT.

>> COMMISSIONER, THOSE FUNDS AVAILABLE IN THE 2016 COS, FOR 1921 PROJECT FOR REALLOCATION. THE COURT: NOT 1388.

>> OKAY. SO DID YOU CATCH THAT? 2016. AND I BELIEVE THAT IS A

DIFFERENT NUMBER. >> JUAN, IF WE CAN, MAYBE BEFORE, I WOULD LIKE -- I WANT THIS DOCUMENTED TO SHOW THE COMMUNITY WHAT WE'RE DOING. BUT IF YOU WOULD GIVE US A CHANCE FOR A WALK-THROUGH. I WOULD LOVE TO GO BY AGAIN WITH THE JUDGE OR ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONER'S COURT OR MEMBERS OF OUR STAFF THAT WOULD LIKE TO GO AND SEE WHAT IS THERE NOW. IT'S REALLY EXCITING TO SEE YOU KNOW, HOW EVERYTHING WAS SET UP.

BY JUST GIVING IT OVER TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WE'RE REPLACING A NEED THAT THEY HAD THAT THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO COMPLETE AND MEET THE FUNDING REQUIREMENT FOR THEIR ORIGINAL AG FARM THAT THEY HAD PLANNED YEARS AGO.

THAT IS WHERE THIS CONVERSATION CAME FROM.

SO AT SOME POINT WE GET A CHANCE TO VIEW IT, EITHER BEFORE OR AT LEAST ESPECIALLY AFTERWARDS.

WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME YOU THINK THIS CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED?

>> COMMISSIONER, PROBABLY GET STARTED HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS WITH THE CONTRACTORS. WE CAN DO A WALK-THROUGH PRIOR TO PERFORMING ANY TYPE OF IMPROVEMENTS ON THE PROJECT.

AND THEN AFTER ALSO. THE COURT: SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. I THINK WE HAVE AT LEAST EVERYTHING DOCUMENTED THE WAY I THINK IT SHOULD BE, FOR THE RECORD. SO AT THIS TIME I'LL JUST ASK ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OKAY. GREAT.

WELL, LOOK, WE DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF TAKING CARE OF OUR POLITICAL JURISDICTIONS. WE KNOW THAT IT'S DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO LEAVE THEIR DUTIES AND TO COME OVER HERE.

BUT I THINK IN THE INTEREST OF OUR GREATER COMMUNITY, WE'VE DONE VERY GOOD WORK HERE THIS MORNING.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF PW HAS INSTAGRAM THE WAY INLAND PARKS DOES, BUT THAT IS A GREAT IDEA THAT COMMISSIONER MAREZ HAS, GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VIDEO, DO A BEFORE AND AFTER.

IT'S A FANTASTIC EXPERIENCE. IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN NUECES COUNTY INLAND PARKS INSTAGRAM, IT'S NOT ONLY FABULOUS, IT'S HIGHLY ENTERTAINING. AND YOU SHOULD GET TO SEE THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE. SO WHEN WE DO GOOD WORK, LET'S BE SURE AND MESSAGE THAT. THANK YOU.

>> EXCUSE ME. I JUST WANT TO ASK, IS IT ON CITY UTILITIES OR DO WE HAVE A SEPTIC TANK THERE?

>> YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I THINK IT'S ON CITY SERVICE, WATER AND SEWER.

>> BECAUSE I USED TO WORK THERE TOO AND I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT

WAS CITY OR SEPTIC TANK. >> CITY.

THE COURT: THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

NOW, GOING BACK TO KIND OF GIVE A LITTLE GUIDANCE HERE, MY INTENTION IS AT THIS TIME TO CALL FOR THE CONVENING OF NUECES COUNTY HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, FINISH THAT AGENDA ITEM AND THEN I'M GOING TO CALL THE GAME ROOM I TEAM RIGHT AFTERWARDS. THAT WAY THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING WILL MOVE TO THE FRONT OF THE LINE THERE.

SO AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO GO BACK AS IF WE WERE IN NORMAL ORDER, GO TO G. GO TO BIG LETTER G.

THIS IS A CONVENING OF A NUECES COUNTY HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. WE HAVE ONE ITEM.

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE AFFORDABLE WORK HOUSE FROM

ASCENDA CAPITAL. >> JUST FOR A MATTER OF ORDER, JUDGE, I WANT TO POINT OUT WE DO HAVE FOUR RESOLUTIONS AND INDIVIDUALS IN THE COURTROOM AND OUTSIDE WAITING FOR THE RESOLUTIONS. THE COURT: I KNOW.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE DAYS WHERE I'M NOT SURE HOW TO BOUNCE.

BUT I'LL MAKE CERTAIN THAT I WORK SWIFTLY THROUGH ASCENDA.

>> MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTIONS AHEAD OF HOUSING SO WE CAN GET THOSE FOLKS OUT OF HERE.

THE COURT: MY ONLY CONCERN COMMISSIONER, IS WE HAVE

LAWYERS WAITING. >> THEY CAN WAIT LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. THE COURT: WELL, I THINK THE ISSUE WAS THAT YOU ALL HAD A SITUATION LAST COURT THAT YOU DID NOT WANT THAT DUE TO THE CHARGES.

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>> THOSE LAWYERS ARE CHARGING US FOR A PRESENTATION BY ANOTHER HOUSING CORPORATION? THE COURT: NO, SIR.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO GO INTO IT, WE DO HAVE OUR OWN COUNSEL ON THE LINE. AND I DID LET HIM KNOW.

AND HE LET US KNOW THAT WE GAVE HIM A TIME SO AS TO REDUCE THOSE COSTS. WE DO HAVE BRACEWELL OUR PUBLIC

FINANCE COUNSEL ON THE LINE. >> I'LL DO THE RESOLUTIONS AND WE'LL GET HER BACK ON THE LINE WHEN WE NEED TO.

WE CAN TELL HER TO GET OFF THE LINE.

THE COURT: WE WORKED IT OUT WITH THEIR SCHEDULE.

I'M GOING TO FOLLOW THE REGULAR ORDER.

I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE ANYTHING BUT VERY QUICK AT ALL.

>> I DID MAKE A MOTION AND SECOND FOR THE RECORD.

THE COURT: WELL, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO -- I NEED TO AT LEAST PLEASE TEXT MR. PLUMBER AND FIND OUT IF HE'S AVAILABLE.

I GAVE HIM THE TEN-MINUTE RULE. NOT RULE.

BUT I GAVE HIM THE TEN-MINUTE WARNING AND NOW I'VE GOT 30 MINUTES MORE IF I TAKE UP THESE RESOLUTIONS.

AGAIN, I THINK THE EXPECTATION IS THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION BEFORE --

>> I MADE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE ON THE MOTION AND A SECOND.

WE GO OUT OF ORDER IN THIS COURT ALL OF THE TIME.

THE COURT: I HEAR BOTH OF YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO BE COURTEOUS AND LET THE COURT MANAGER LET HIM KNOW THAT THAT IS TAKING

PLACE. >> TAKE A VOTE.

THE COURT: AS SOON AS SHE FINISHES HER TEXT.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY NEED TO TAKE A VOTE.

WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THE PROCLAMATIONS IN ADVANCE.

IF THAT IS GOING TO BE THE WILL OF THE COURT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE OUR LAWYERS KNOW THAT SO THEY CAN MAKE THEIR ARRANGEMENTS. THEY MAY HAVE HAD HEARINGS, THEY MAY HAVE HAD OTHER ISSUES. WE GAVE THEM A TIME FRAME.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OUT OF COURTESY THAT THEY KNOW WHAT OUR SITUATION IS. NUMBER 4 IS IN RECOGNITION OF

THE MONTH -- >> THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. THE COURT: I'M MOVING TOWARDS

THE PROCLAMATION. >> WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH

THE MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR? >> PRESIDING OFFICER, I AM THE ONE THAT GETS TO PUT FORTH THE AGENDA.

SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO ITEM NUMBER 4 IN RECOGNITION.

>> I'M ASKING ABOUT THE MOTION. EITHER WE DO IT, VOTED FOR IT.

THE COURT: THERE IS NO NEED FOR THE MOTION.

THERE IS NO NEED FOR IT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON.

[4. In recognition of the month of April 2022 as Sexual Assault Awareness and Prevention Month.]

YOU'RE SPENDING MORE TIME ON IT THAN NECESSARY.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND ASK THE SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS AND PREVENTION MONTH ADVOCATES TO COME FORWARD AND WE'LL MOVE

TOWARDS THAT. >> THERE IS A MOTION ON THE

FLOOR. >> I THINK IF THE COURT HAS MOVED ON TO THOSE THINGS, THE VOTE IS MOOT.

>> DO WE DISSOLVE THE MOTION OR WHAT?

>> THE MOTION COULD BE WITHDRAWN?

>> IT'S UP TO THE PERSON THAT MADE THE MOTION.

>> I MADE MY MOTION. I MADE MY MOTION.

I'M NOT WITHDRAWING IT. WHATEVER SHE WANTS TO DO, SHE CAN DO, APPARENTLY PRESIDING OFFICER.

THE COURT: I THINK THAT IS CORRECT.

>> IT'S NOT. IT WAS TONGUE AND CHEEK.

BUT GO AHEAD. THE COURT: IN RECOGNITION OF THE MONTH OF APRIL 2022, AS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS AND

PREVENTON MONTH. >> WHEREAS, SEXUAL VIOLENCE IMPACTS WOMEN, CHILDREN, WHEREAS IN 2015, 6.3 MILLION TEXANS HAD EXPERIENCED SOME FORM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THEIR LIFETIME. WHEREAS, IN 2015, 80 PERCENT OF TEXAS VICTIMS WERE SEXUALLY ASSAULTED BY SOMEONE THEY KNEW.

IN 2015, 91 PERCENT OF SEXUAL ASSAULT VICTIMS IN TEXAS DID NOT REPORT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND WHEREAS, ONLY THREE PERCENT OF SEXUAL ASSAULT PREDATORS EVER SPEND A SINGLE DAY IN JAIL, WHEREAS CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THE JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL HANDLE THE INCIDENT AND HARMFUL MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT SEXUAL ASSAULT ARE AMONG THE REASONS THAT SEXUAL VIOLENCE IS GENERALLY NOT REPORTED. WHEREAS, RESEARCH IN 2020 BY HARVARD MEDICAL SCHOOL FOUND THAT RATES OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE HAVE INCREASED DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC AND SOCIAL DISTANCING HAS REDUCED VICTIM'S ACCESS TO SAFELY REPORT OR CONNECT TO RESOURCES. THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF NUECES COUNTY THAT THE MONTH OF APRIL 2022 HEREBY PROCLAIMED SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS AND PREVENTON MONTH. FURTHER, THE COURT ENCOURAGES THE CITIZEN OF NUECES COUNTY TO BE A VOICE FOR THOSE SILENCED

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AND GET INVOLVED BY FOLLOWING THE PURPLE DOOR ON FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM AT PURPLE DOOR TX. DULY ADOPTED BY THE COURT.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

THE COURT: MOTION AND A SECOND. WE HAVE ADVOCATES HERE THIS MORNING. WE WELCOME YOU.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS?

>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR ALLOWING US THE TIME TO DISCUSS THIS PROCLAMATION AND ALLOWING US TO DISCUSS WHO WE ARE AS AN ORGANIZATION.

MY NAME IS TAYLOR. THE PURPOSE DOOR IS A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION WHOSE MISSION IS TO EMPOWER -- SORRY.

HI. YOU CAN BRING IT DOWN.

>> JUST TILT IT UP AT THE TOP. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THE PURPOSE DOOR IS A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION WHOSE MISSION IS TO EMPOWER THE COMMUNITY AND THOSE AFFECTED BY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT, TO SUPPORT AND TRANSITION TO A SAFE AND HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT.

OUR VISION IS TO END DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE COASTAL BEND REGION. AS THE SEXUAL ASSAULT SERVICE COORDINATOR, ONE OF MY MANY ROLES IS THE PRIVILEGE OF LEADING OUR SEXUAL ASSAULT RESPONSE TEAM VOLUNTEERS.

OUR SEXUAL ASSAULT RESPONSE TEAM COLLABORATES WITH SEXUAL ASSAULT NURSE EXAMINERS, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO PROVIDE AND ASSISTANCE TO VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE THOSE COLLABORATION MEMBERS AND TO THANK THEM.

AS ADVOCATES OUR ROLE DURING THE FORENSIC EXAM IS TO SUPPORT AND EDUCATE THE SURVIVORS OF THEIR OPTIONS AND WHAT CAN BE EXPECTED. AFTER THE EXAM IS COMPLETE, WE OFFER SUPPLIES, INCLUDING A BEAR, WHICH SIGNIFIES THE SURVIVOR'S FIRST CHOICE AFTER THEIR CHOICE WAS TAKEN AWAY.

AND IN THE SAME FASHION, AFTER THE SURVIVOR HAS RETURNED HOME OR HAS BEEN TAKEN TO OUR CONFIDENTIAL SHELTER, MYSELF OR THE SEXUAL ASSAULT VICTIM'S ADVOCATE WILL REACH OUT TO SURVIVORS TO PROVIDE THE OPTION OF RECEIVING FURTHER ASSISTANCE, WHICH IS INCLUDED, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, COUNSELING, ASSISTANCE WITH PROTECTIVE ORDERS, ASSISTANCE WITH CRIME VICTIMS COMPENSATION, ACCOMPANIMENT TO MEDICAL FACILITIES, JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS.

I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ADDRESS SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT. WE SEE YOU.

WE ARE HERE FOR YOU. REGARDLESS OF YOUR GENDER, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, RACE, RELIGION, OCCUPATION.

WE ARE HERE WHEN YOU ARE READY. WHEN YOU ARE READY, OUR 24-HOUR HOTLINE NUMBER IS 800-580-4878. LASTLY, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT AND YOU ARE NOT ALONE.

THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR ALLOWING THE TIME TO DISCUSS THIS PROCLAMATION AND ALLOWING

US TO SEND OUR MESSAGE. >> THANK YOU.

IT'S A VERY POWERFUL MESSAGE. LADIES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO -- YOU'RE HERE IN SUPPORT. OKAY.

UNDERSTOOD. IS THERE A MOTION AT THIS TIME?

>> WE ALREADY DID OUR MOTION. >> WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

OKAY. WE HAVE THE ACTUAL PROCLAMATION FOR YOU. AND WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT SAME MESSAGING. IN FACT, I HOPE THAT YOU WROTE THOSE TIPS DOWN. BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD MIMIC AND MESSAGE DURING THIS MONTH.

IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME FORWARD AND TAKE A PHOTO FOR THE WEBSITE? OKAY.

WE'LL DO THAT AT THIS TIME. AND DO YOU ALL HAVE THE PROCLAMATION? THE COURT: NEXT WHILE WE FINISH

[5. In recognition of the month of April 2022 as Child Abuse Prevention and Awareness Month.]

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SIGNING, WE'LL PREP FOR OUR CHILD ABUSE PREVENTON AND

AWARENESS MONTH AS WELL. >> THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND PROTECTIVE SERVICES CONFIRMS 75,338 CASES OF CHILD ABUSE OR NEGLECT IN TEXAS. AND CONFIRMED 2,174 CASES OF ABUSE OR NEGLECT IN THE 12 COUNTIES SERVED BY THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER OF THE COASTAL BEND.

OUR CHILDREN ARE OUR MOST VALUABLE RESOURCES AND WILL SHAPE THE FUTURE OF TEXAS. WHEREAS, CHILD ABUSE CAN HAVE LONG-TERM ADVERSE, PSYCHOLOGICAL EMOTIONAL AND PHYSICAL EFFECTS. LIFE-LONG CONSEQUENCES FOR VICTIMS OF ABUSE. EFFECTIVE CHILD ABUSE PREVENTON ACTIVITIES SUCCEED BECAUSE OF THE MEANINGFUL CONNECTIONS AND PARTNERSHIPS CREATED BETWEEN CHILD WELFARE, COMMUNITY AND FAITH BASED ORGANIZATIONS, BUSINESS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, WHEREAS WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE MUST WORK TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY TO INCREASE AWARENESS ABOUT CHILD ABUSE AND CONTRIBUTE TO PROMOTE THE SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL WELL-BEING OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES IN A SAFE, STABLE NURTURING ENVIRONMENT. PREVENTON REMAINS THE BEST DEFENSE FOR OUR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.

AND INTERVENTION THROUGH THERAPEUTIC RECOVERY SERVICES HELPS TO DECREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF LONG-TERM EFFECTS OF CHILD ABUSE. CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, CHILD ADVOCACY CENTERS, FOSTER PARENTS, TEACHERS AND OTHERS WORK TO ENSURE THAT CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY HAVE THE COMMUNITY TO GROW UP IN SAFE, LOVING PERMANENT HOMES.

THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF NUECES COUNTY THAT THE MONTH OF APRIL, 2022, IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED CHILD ABUSE PREVENTON AND AWARENESS MONTH ON COASTAL BEND. FURTHER, THE COURT ENCOURAGES ALL CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THIS MONTH BY DEDICATING THEMSELVES TO THE TASK OF IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. THE COURT: THANK YOU.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?

>> YES, MA'AM. GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS CLARISSA, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER. ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THE CHILDREN THAT WE SERVE EVERY YEAR, THANK YOU FOR DEDICATING APRIL TO CHILD ABUSE PREVENTON AND AWARENESS MONTH.

LAST YEAR ALONE, WE SERVED MORE THAN 1800 CHILDREN, WITH THE MAJORITY OF THOSE KIDS LIVING RIGHT HERE IN NUECES COUNTY.

ALL OF THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE ARE ABSOLUTELY FREE OF CHARGE. AND WE KNOW THAT WE COULD NOT DO THAT WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF OUR COMMUNITY AND ENTITIES LIKE YOURSELF. SO THANK YOU FOR BELIEVING IN OUR MISSION AND THE WORK THAT WE DO AND FOR HELPING US MAKE NUECES COUNTY A SAFER AND BETTER COMMUNITY.

THE COURT: THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.

IS THERE A MOTION? >> SO MOVED THE COURT: THIS IS A SECOND. AND WE CAN'T SAY ENOUGH FOR WHAT IT IS THAT YOU DO. WE KNOW THAT AFTER COVID-19 WE'VE SEEN ALMOST EVERY BAD STATISTIC EXACERBATE.

SO I HOPE THAT YOU WILL COME TO US AND LET US KNOW HOW WE CAN DO MORE. BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED IT IN ORDER TO MAKE CERTAIN WE MITIGATE AND TRULY RECOVER. AT THIS TIME, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

WE WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST PROMOTE THE AWARENESS OF THIS MONTH FOR YOUR ORGANIZATION.

AND FOR ALL THOSE THAT ADVOCATE FOR CHILDREN.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN US ON THE DIACESE FOR A QUICK PHOTO.

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THANK YOU. THE COURT: WE'RE GOING TO MOVE

[6. In recognition of National Library Week 2022 April 3-9, 2022.]

ON, NATIONAL LIBRARY WEEK. IS IDA IN THE ROOM.

THERE SHE IS. WE WELCOME YOU AND YOUR TEAM.

IT'S NATIONAL LIBRARY WEEK, THE WEEK OF APRIL 3RD THROUGH THE 9TH. AND WE HAVE A RECOGNITION FOR

YOU. >> WHEREAS LIBRARIES ARE ACCESSIBLE AND INCLUSIVE PLACES THAT FOSTER A SENSE OF CONNECTION AND BUILD COMMUNITY. WHEREAS, LIBRARIES CONNECT PEOPLE TO TECHNOLOGY, PROVIDING ACCESS TO BROADBAND INTERNET COMPUTERS AND TRAINING CRITICAL FOR ASSESSING EDUCATION AND EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES. WHEREAS, TODAY'S LIBRARIES AND THEIR SERVICES EXTEND FAR BEYOND THE FOUR WALLS OF THE BUILDING AND EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO USE THEIR RESOURCES.

LIBRARY AND LIBRARY PROFESSIONALS PLAY AN INVALUABLE ROLE IN SUPPORTING THE COMMUNITIES BOTH PERSONALLY AND VIRTUALLY. THEY ARE AS DIVERSE AS THE POPULATIONS THEY SERVE, ENSURE EQUITY OF ACCESS FOR ALL.

ADAPT TO OUR CHANGING WORLD, LIBRARIES ARE EXPANDING RESOURCES AND CONTINUING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THEIR PATRONS. LIBRARIES HAVE LONG-SERVED AS A TRUSTED AND TREASURED INSTITUTIONS FOR ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, REGARDLESS OF RACE, ETHNICITY, ABILITY, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, GENDER IDENTITY OR SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS. LIBRARIES ARE THE CORNERSTONE OF DEMOCRACY, LIBRARY WORKERS ARE JOINING SUPPORTERS AND ADVOCATES TO CELEBRATE NATIONAL LIBRARY WEEK.

NUECES COUNTY DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 3RD THROUGH 9TH AS NATIONAL LIBRARY WEEK. ENCOURAGES ALL RESIDENTS TO CONNECT WITH THEIR LIBRARY ONLINE OR IN-PERSON TO ACCESS

RESOURCES AND SERVICES. >> THANK YOU.

OUR LIBRARIES ARE HUGE RESOURCE CENTERS FOR OUR FAMILIES.

THEY DO SO MUCH MORE THAN PROVIDE THE MOST WONDERFUL THING THEY DO, WHICH ARE BOOKS. BUT THEY TURN OUT TO BE EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATIONAL FORUMS, THEY TURN OUT TO BE STEM CENTRAL LOCATIONS FOR OUR CHILDREN.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, AFTER HOURS THEY ARE OUR INTERNET PROVIDERS, TECHNOLOGY RESOURCES.

IDA, YOU DO SO MUCH FOR NUECES COUNTY.

I'M GLAD THIS IS YOUR WEEK. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.

GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, JUDGE.

WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE. IF CRYSTAL AND JEANNE CAN STEP UP TO THE FRONT, THEY'VE GOT HAND-OUTS AND THEY'VE MADE LITTLE BUTTONS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I KNOW OUR STAFF HAS BEEN GOING THROUGH SO MUCH THE PAST FEW YEARS WITH COVID, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT LIBRARIES WERE NOT USED TO. THEY'VE DONE SO MUCH.

BUT THIS WILL BE LIBRARY WEEK. WE HAVE SEVERAL ACTIVITIES.

AND JEANNE AT THE LAW LIBRARY AS WELL HAS DONE SUCH A GREAT JOB NOW THAT WE'VE STEPPED UP TO THE PODIUM AND WE HAVE A NEW LAW LIBRARY. WE HAVE A LOT OF STEM TECHNOLOGY. CHILDREN AND FAMILY PLACE IS ALSO GROWING. PEOPLE ARE GOING BACK TO THE LIBRARIES AT BOTH BISHOP AND KIDS LIBRARY.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE RECOGNITION.

WE WILL BE BACK SECOND OR THIRD COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO DO A PRESENTATION OF OUR YEARLY ACCREDITATION REPORT.

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THE COURT: THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE GRANT WRITING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING AS WELL, FROM THE COAST TO THE COUNTRY, YOU'VE DONE AN AMAZING JOB IN BRINGING YOU KNOW, DOLLARS TO OUR LIBRARIES THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD BEFORE BECAUSE OF GRANTS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IS THERE A MOTION? >> SO MOVED.

>> SO MOVED. THE COURT: I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE SECOND AS I HEARD IT.

WHICH WAS CHESNEY, SECOND. AND MAREZ IS THE FIRST MOTION.

AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

[7. In recognition of the month of April 2022 as Safe Digging Month.]

AGAIN, OUR THANKS. WE'LL MOVE ON TO SAFE DIGGING MONTH. AND I'M SORRY.

>> AYE. >> I FORGOT TO SAY IT.

WE HAVE LEPC HERE IN FORCE. I JUST HEARD FROM CHIEF ROACHA HE WAS NOT ABLE TO BE WITH US HERE THIS MORNING.

BUT IT LOOKS LIKE HE SENT US EVERYBODY ELSE.

IN RECOGNITION OF APRIL 2022 AS SAFE DIGGING MONTH, INTRIGUELY WE HEARD EARLIER ABOUT A HIGH PRESSURE LINE AND ITS DEPTH AND OBVIOUSLY THAT TURNS OUT TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE, IS HOW TO DIG SAFELY IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH SO MANY LINES.

AND SO BELINDA HAS AN IMPORTANT RESOLUTION IN RECOGNITION OF

THIS AWARENESS. >> WHEREAS, THOUSANDS OF TIMES EACH YEAR THE UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE IN TEXAS IS DAMAGED BY THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE UNDERGROUND LINES LOCATED PRIOR TO DIGGING. THIS RESULTS IN SERVICE INTERRUPTION ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE AND A THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY. IN WHEREAS, IN 2005, THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION DESIGNATED 811 TO PROVIDE CONTRACTORS AND HOMEOWNERS A SIMPLE NUMBER TO CONTACT UTILITY OPERATORS TO REQUEST THE LOCATION OF UNDERGROUND LINES AT THE INTENDED DIG SITE.

GULF COAST DAMAGE PREVENTON COUNCIL ARE DEDICATED TO THE PREVENTON OF DAMAGE TO UNDERGROUND UTILITIES.

ALL THREE ENTITIES PROMOTE THE NATIONAL 811 NOTIFICATION SYSTEM. WHEREAS DAMAGE PREVENTON IS A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY. BY USING SAFE DIGGING PRACTICES, THE CONTRACTORS AND HOMEOWNERS OF NUECES COUNTY CAN SAVE TIME AND MONEY AND HELP KEEP OUR INFRASTRUCTURE SAFE AND CONNECTED. NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF NUECES COUNTY, THAT NUECES COUNTY PROCLAIMS ON BEHALF OF THE PIPELINE PREVENTON SUBCOMMITTEE AND THE GULF COAST DAMAGE PREVENTON COUNCIL, THE MONTH OF APRIL 2022, NUECES COUNTY SAFE DIGGING MONTH AND ENCOURAGES CONTRACTORS AND HOMEOWNERS THROUGHOUT NUECES COUNTY TO ALWAYS DIAL 811 BEFORE DIGGING.

SAFE EXCAVATION IS NO ACCIDENT. THE COURT: THAT'S RIGHT.

WELCOME, MEMBERS OF LEPC. AND WHO WOULD LIKE TO GIVE US A

FEW WORDS? >> I WAS VOTED TO SPEAK.

I'M THE COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI NUECES COUNTY LOCAL EMERGENCY PLANNING COMMITTEE.

MY NAME IS JOANNE. I'M HAPPY TO HAVE SOME OF OUR MEMBERS AND SUPPORTERS WITH US TODAY.

WE HAVE FROM A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT INDUSTRY, PARTNERS AND FROM THE PORT, FROM OSHA, FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, VOLUNTEERS. SO WE HAVE A VERY ACTIVE GROUP.

AND IT IS OUR GOAL TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NUECES COUNTY IS FREE OF DAMAGE AND INJURY. YOU KNOW, TO BOTH PROPERTY AND PERSON. SO APRIL IS OUR SAFE DIGGING MONTH. WE DO PUT UTILITY INSERTS IN REMINDING EVERYONE BOTH FOR THE CITY AND COUNTY.

AND ALSO ON APRIL 29TH, WE WILL BE DOING A WORKSHOP WITH THE RAILROAD COMMISSION, TEXAS 811, OSHA, THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE, WE'RE GOING TO DO A WORKSHOP FOR LOCAL EXCAVATORS, CONTRACTORS, REMINDING THEM OF YOU KNOW, SAFETY FIRST AND ALSO THAT 811 IS NOT AN OPTION, IT'S A LAW.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US.

THE COURT: VERY GOOD MESSAGE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE ALSO HAVE YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO PASS THIS, WE MISSED GETTING A PICTURE WITH IDA. BUT THEY'RE ALREADY GONE, CORRECT? WE'LL GET THIS RESOLUTION TO THEM. IF YOU WILL PLEASE PASS IT.

FOR THOSE OF YOU, IN ORDER TO PROMOTE, WE WOULD LOVE TO TAKE A PHOTO WITH YOU. JUST GIVE US A CHANCE TO SIGN THE RESOLUTION. BUT FIRST A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO PASS?

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>> SECOND. >> MOTION FROM GONZALES AND SECOND FROM HERNANDEZ. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. WELCOME.

WHY DON'T YOU COME FORWARD AND WE WILL GET THIS ON OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PORTFOLIO, OUR WEBSITE, FACEBOOK.

THE WORK OF THE LEPC IS CRITICAL.

REVERSE ALERT WAS ISSUED THIS MORNING, AS A MATTER OF FACT.

IT WASN'T ON DIGGING. BUT IT WAS STILL SOMETHING THAT COMES OUT OF LEPC. AND WE VALUE YOUR PARTNERSHIP.

JUST GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO SIGN EVERYTHING.

>> THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.

>> ITEM NUMBER 8 HAS BEEN ASKED BY THE COURT ADMINISTRATORS TO BE TABLE SO WE CAN ACCOMMODATE A FAMILY MEMBER AT ANOTHER COURT. MOTION TO TABLE ITEM 8.

>> TAKE THE MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> SECOND WAS HERNANDEZ. THE COURT: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF THE PROCLAMATIONS AND RESOLUTIONS THAT I HAVE.

AND >> JUDGE, CAN I ASK JUST A COUPLE OF HOUSEKEEPING? MAKE SOME TABLE MOTIONS.

MOTIONS TO TABLE. THE COURT: RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER CHESNEY FOR HOUSEKEEPING.

>> THANK YOU. DUE TO THE AGAIN, THE NEED TO NOT HAVE THESE ON TODAY AND THE LENGTH OF THE MEETING, I WOULD MOVE TO -- I CAN'T TALK. I WOULD MOVE TO TABLE REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS 1, 2 AND 15. AND BASED ON MS. GARA'S E-MAIL

TO US, ALSO HR ITEM 1. >> SECOND.

THE COURT: HOLD ON ONE SECOND. I'M SORRY.

15. >> 1, 2, 15.

THE COURT: WAS THERE ANOTHER ONE?

>> 1, 2, 15 AND HR1. THE COURT: HR 1.

OKAY. I KNOW YOU HAVE A TABLE.

I KNOW YOU HAVE A TABLE. I KNOW YOU HAVE A MOTION.

AND A SECOND. BUT I AM GOING TO CALL FOR DISCUSSION. I'M SORRY?

>> F-1. THE COURT: DID I SAY IT WRONG? I APOLOGIZE. IT'S F-1.

>> SORRY. THE COURT: MY REQUEST IS THAT CAN WE CONSIDER YOU KNOW, AT LEAST YOU KNOW, TAKING THEM UP LATER IN THE DAY IF WE HAVE TIME, WE COULD MOVE PAST THEM RIGHT NOW, BUT THE TRUTH IS, WE HAVE INTERIM CHARGES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN LEVIED BY OUR SPEAKER FOR THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. HEARINGS ARE BEING SCHEDULED.

I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR NUECES COUNTY TO HAVE OUR LEGISLATIVE TEAM, THERE ARE SO MANY IMPORTANT ISSUES AND PARTICULARLY THOSE, COMMISSIONER, THAT AFFECT THE COAST.

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I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF WE COULD HAVE OUR TEAM IN PLACE.

I THINK WE POSTPONED THIS THREE TIMES.

I WOULD JUST ASK THAT IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR TIME SAVINGS, COULD WE AT LEAST CONSIDER IT AT THE END OF THE HOUR AND IF THERE IS NO TIME, THERE IS NO TIME.

BUT THERE IS NO REASON TO DELAY.

IT'S EITHER A VERY QUICK. >> WAIT AND SEE HOW IT GOES, JUDGE. IF IT COMES TO IT AND WE'RE NOT MOVING ALONG. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND HR-G1. F-1.

SORRY. THERE IS NOTHING TO DO ON THAT TODAY SINCE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO PICK OUR TOP.

THAT IS GOING TO BE ON THE 13TH.

THE COURT: WHY DON'T WE DO THE TABLE FOR F-1.

YOU WANT TO DO THEM ALL IN ONE MOTION?

>> WE CAN DO F-1 AND 15. THE COURT: OKAY.

F-1 AND 15 MOTION TO TABLE. I THINK I HEARD A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER GONZALES. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AND THEN IN THE AFTERNOON, LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS AND THEN IF IT DOESN'T WORK, IT DOESN'T WORK. I'M EVEN HAPPY TO TABLE UNTIL THE AFTERNOON. OR YOU COULD WITHDRAW AND BRING IT BACK. IF YOU WANT TO TABLE IT RIGHT

NOW. >> I'M JUST GOING TO WAIT AND SEE. WE'VE GOT TO GET A HANDLE ON THIS AGENDA. THE COURT: ALL RIGHT.

THOSE TWO. MOTION AND SECOND.

I THINK WE VOTED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. JUST F-1, WHICH IS HR, ITEM 15.

AND THEN WE MAY GET ANOTHER TABLE HERE IN A FEW HOURS.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO HOLD FOR NOW.

OKAY. SO JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, THERE IS SETS OF MINUTES FOR MS. CLERK, LISTEN TO ME.

[1. March 15, 2022 March 16, 2022]

MS. SANDS. ITEM J-1.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THOSE TWO MEETINGS? MARCH 15TH AND MARCH 16TH?

>> SO MOVED. THE COURT: SECOND, PLEASE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OKAY. SO AT THIS TIME I AM GOING TO GO, I'VE GOT TO DO THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, THE EXPECTATION HAS BEEN SET BY THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA, IF NOTHING ELSE. I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THOSE FOLKS ON. HOW WOULD YOU DO YOU WANT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT THIS TIME TO HEAR EVERYTHING?

YES. >> WHY DO WE NEED EXECUTIVE SESSION? THE COURT: I THINK THEY DO.

I THINK THEY WANT TO SHARE. >> CAN YOU ASK BLAKELY IF SHE'S GOT SOMETHING FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THE COURT: I BELIEVE SHE DOES. >> WE HAVE TO RECESS THIS

MEETING. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I HAVE NOT CONVENED IT.

I'M TRYING TO GET THE ORDER OF THE BUSINESS.

BLAKELY, ARE YOU GOING TO RECOMMEND FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM FOR US TO GO EXECUTIVE SESSION, TO DISCUSS IT?

>> YES, JUDGE, WE WOULD LIKE TO VERY QUICKLY.

THE COURT: JIM. I'M SORRY.

YEAH. OKAY.

THANK YOU. SO LOOK, AT THIS TIME, THE TIME IS 10:53 A.M. AND WE ARE GOING TO CONVENE -- I'M SORRY. WE'RE GOING TO RECESS FOR JUST

[G. CONVENE MEETING OF THE NUECES COUNTY HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION]

A MOMENT OUR REGULAR COURT AGENDA AND CONVENE THE MEETING OF THE NUECES COUNTY HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, ALL FIVE OF US SIT ON THAT HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AND THAT IS WHY WE'RE SORT OF RECESSING ONE AND ENTERING ANOTHER. IT'S A MATTER OF THE COURT'S RECORDS. AND THIS CASE, I AM GIVING NOTICE THAT WE ARE ELECTING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

DURING THE MEETING, WHICH WE'RE DOING NOW.

WE DO SO UNDER OPEN MEETINGS ACT CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. WE DO SO IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY OF VERNON TEXAS CODE, SECTIONS 551, 071, 76 AND 87.

WE'RE GOING TO CONSULT WITH OUR ATTORNEYS ON CERTAIN MATTERS THAT ARE ALL LISTED IN THE AGENDA.

THESE RELATE TO POTENTIALLY, BUT NOT INCLUDING, LITIGATION, REAL PROPERTY, PROSPECTIVE GIFTS, PERSONNEL MATTERS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND ANY OTHER MATTER THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

UPON COMPLETION OF SUCH EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL COME BACK IN OPEN SESSION AND TAKE SUCH ACTION AS NEEDED. MY PREDICTION FOR THE CLERK IS THIS WILL NOT BE TOO LENGTHY. FOR THE AUDIENCE, WHAT THAT MEANS FOR YOU, IS I'M SORRY, FOR THE INTEREST OF TECHNOLOGY, WE'LL HAVE TO ASK YOU, WE NEED TO HAVE YOU CLEAR THE

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COURTROOM. WE DO THIS IN PRIVATE.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S A SMALL BREAK. WE'LL HAVE YOU BACK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. IDA, BEFORE WE ALL GO, WHY DON'T WE TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU AND YOUR TEAM TO COME FORWARD AND WE'LL TAKE OUR PHOTO WITH YOU.

AND THEN EVERYBODY ELSE WILL TAKE THE MICS OFF, ASK EVERYONE TO CLEAR THE COURTROOM. THE COURT: BACK ON THE RECORD.

11:35 A.M. WE ARE STILL CONVENED AS A HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. AND SO COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION, THERE IS AN ITEM THAT RELATES TO IT.

AND I'LL YIELD TO COMMISSIONER MAREZ, ITEM G-1A.

>> MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM.

>> SECOND. >> IF WE COULD HAVE SOME DISCUSSION. THE COURT: ABSOLUTELY.

>> I WANT TO SHARE THAT YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE MATT AND ASCENDA CAPITAL BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND OF COURSE, WITH ASCENDA CAPITAL ON THE PROPOSAL ITSELF.

I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY AS A COUNTY ARE INTERESTED IN, LOOKING FORWARD TO.

KNOW THAT THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI HAS THAT OPPORTUNITY MANY TIMES, WE AS A COUNTY HAVEN'T.

I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TOOL FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I DON'T KNOW THIS IS NECESSARILY THE PROJECT.

WE CAN TABLE AND GIVE US MORE TIME TO DISCUSS.

I WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION AND SOME POLICY DIRECTION THAT WE CAN GET FROM STAFF THAT WILL HELP GUIDE US SO WE CAN AGREE ON THE PERCENTAGES ALSO THAT WERE PREPARED IN THIS ORIGINAL PRESENTATION WERE PROBABLY HIGHER THAN WHAT WE EXPECT.

I THINK THAT WE NEED TO SET SOME DEFINITIVE AMOUNTS, A WINDOW PERHAPS THAT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE IN SUPPORTING.

SO THAT IS WHAT I WOULD ASK FOR US TO HAVE DISCUSSION AT A LATER DATE. BUT JUDGE, YOU ALWAYS SAY WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS, WE WANT TO SUPPORT MORE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. WE KNOW THAT THERE IS SO MUCH INTEREST IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW FOR FURTHER GROWTH AND BUILDING.

SO MY CONCERNS ON THIS ONE WERE OBVIOUSLY THE AGE OF THE REHAB WAS ONE OF THOSE AREAS, AND LIKE I SAID, THE CONCERNS WERE NOT ADDRESSED YET. BUT OVERALL I DO THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK FORWARD TO AS A TOOL TO USE AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND YOU KNOW, WE CAN PERHAPS CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM, OR AT LEAST LIKE I SAID, SET SOME DIRECTIVE TO STAFF AND COMMUNITY AND TO THE BUSINESS WORLD OUT THERE, DEVELOPERS THAT ARE LOOKING, THAT ONCE THEY'RE READY TO COME AND PRESENT FUTURE ITEMS SIMILAR TO THIS, THAT THEY KNOW KIND OF WHAT OUR THRESHOLD IS IN THAT SUPPORT.

WHAT PARTICULAR AREAS WE MAY WANT GROWTH OR DEVELOPMENT.

LIKE I SAID, WHAT KIND OF PERCENTAGE BUY-IN IS THERE.

BUT I THINK THIS IS A GREAT TOOL AND RESOURCES FOR US TO UTILIZE, I JUST AT THIS MOMENT WANT TO TABLE IT TO ALLOW STAFF TO WORK THROUGH IT SOME MORE AND COME BACK TO PRESENT TO US AT A LATER DATE. THE COURT: OKAY.

MOTION AND A SECOND. SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD DIRECTION TO GIVE TO NOT SO MUCH STAFF, BUT AS WELL I'M CERTAIN BLAKELY AND JIM AND AS THEY SAY, ET AL TO REALLY GUIDE US SO THAT WE CAN FIND OUR WAY TO AN OPPORTUNITY, AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE RIGHT PARAMETERS THAT THE COURT BELIEVES IS THE BEST POLICY DIRECTION. SUPER.

MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

OKAY. I'M GOING TO POSTPONE MY G-1 REPORTS FOR RIGHT NOW OTHER THAN TO PLEASE JUST NOTE THAT I'LL BRING IT BACK AT THE END OF THE EVENING OR AFTERNOON, WHEN WE GET A CHANCE, THAT HAS TO DO WITH ALL OF THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, DISASTER PREPAREDNESS AND RESPONSES.

OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT AS SOON AS WE CAN FINISH A FEW MORE, IF LOUIE -- OKAY. GREAT.

WITH REGARDS TO THE DRAINAGE, WHAT I'M GOING TO SUGGEST IS PLEASE TAKE THESE TWO GENTLEMEN, MR. CHESTNUT, MR. FERKIN, I'LL CALL YOU GUYS BACK HERE IN A MINUTE.

THEY NEED MORE. WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN KEEP GIVING THE SAME DIRECTION AND THEY KEEP COMING BACK HERE EVERY WEEK. BUT THERE HAS GOT TO BE MORE THAT WE CAN DO FOR THEM. OF COURSE, I PERSONALLY THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH ARPA AND ARPA IS NOT ON THE CALENDAR TODAY, ON OUR AGENDA. BUT MAYBE YOU CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM AND PW AND SEE IF WE CAN MOVE THE NEEDLE AND

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WE CAN BRING YOU BACK HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.

BUT FOR THE REMAINDER, I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW IT'S A REVERSE ALERT DAY. SO CRITICAL WILDFIRE HAS BEEN DESIGNATED FOR ALMOST ALL OF SOUTH TEXAS.

SO I NEED EVERYONE TO STAY VIGILANT.

[1. South Texas Water Authority Board of Directors]

APPOINTMENTS IS K-1, SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY BOARD OF DIRECTORS. WE HAVE TWO FOLKS REAPPLYING, IN OTHER WORDS, THEY'RE THERE. MR. ROGERS, I BELIEVE.

I WILL CONFIRM. HOLD ON A SECOND.

LET ME FLIP TO MY BOARD BOOK. THAT IS WHAT I RECALL.

WAS IT PATSY ROGERS AND BOTH ARE CURRENTLY SERVING AND SUBMITTED THE APPROPRIATE LETTERS OF INTENT TO SERVE AGAIN. I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR THEIR REAPPOINTMENT AT THIS TIME.

THIS IS K-1. THAT IS GOING TO BE 11:40 A.M.

11:41 A.M., REOPENING OUR REGULAR SESSION.

I WAS TRYING TO GET SOME CONFIRMATION.

BUT THAT IS WHAT I HAD IN MIND. >> THAT'S CORRECT, JUDGE.

THE COURT: MR. JOE, IS IT MORALES.

I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION. MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

AND THEN LET ME JUST SIGNAL TO COMMISSIONER MAREZ THAT WE'RE

[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]

GOOD. AND I'LL ASK AT THIS TIME PLEASE REVIEW THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AFTER REVIEWING THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS A THROUGH O, ARE THERE ANY TO PULL OUT AND IF NOT, COULD I HAVE A MOTION FOR

THEIR APPROVAL? >> PULL OUT E AND F.

THE COURT: E AND F ARE PULLED. AND K IS PULLED.

IS THERE A MOTION FOR ANYTHING ELSE?

>> SO MOVED FOR THE PASSAGE OF THE REST OF THEM.

THE COURT: SECOND. THE COURT: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. LET'S HEAR THE FISCAL REPORT FROM THE EDC AND AUTHORIZE THE CONTRACT IS NOT HERE, FORGIVE ME, THE WORD IS ACCEPT. ACCEPT THE REPORT AND AUTHORIZE

THE CONTRACT. >> DO WE GET A VERBAL REPORT OR DO WE GET A WRITTEN REPORT? BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN EITHER ONE OF THEM. I THOUGHT NORMALLY THEY COME BY AND GIVE US A VERBAL REPORT OF WHAT IS GOING ON.

THE COURT: ARE THEY? HE IS LOOKING FOR A

PRESENTATION. >> I CAN REPRESENT THE PRESENTATION. WE PUT IT FOR TIMING, TO HAVE

IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> SO THEY'RE COMING BACK LATER

ON? >> YES.

THEY WILL. AND ALSO TO APPROVE THE

CONTRACT FOR 21-22 AS WELL. >> WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF THE

CONTRACT FOR? >> IT'S ALREADY BUDGETED.

>> 50,000. >> 50,000.

THE COURT: EDC. >> FOR CORPUS CHRISTI AND THEN 12,000 FOR ROBSTOWN. THAT WAS UP BECAUSE WE WENT TO A GENERAL FUND ALLOCATION AMOUNT.

USED TO BE YOU JUST GAVE SOMETHING OR JOHN DID OR

SOMEBODY. >> I USUALLY GIVE MONEY.

>> IT DID GET PUT IN A BUDGET. >> PUT THAT ONE BACK IN THE AGENDA LATER ON. THE COURT: FOR RIGHT NOW, DO

YOU WANT TO -- >> I MOVE.

[E. Accept Fiscal Year 2020-2021 Report from Corpus Christi Regional Economic Development Corporation (CCREDC); and authorize FY 2021-2022 contract. ]

THE COURT: MOVE ON ITEM E, AUTHORIZE THE 21-22 CONTRACT FOR THE CCREDC FIRST. SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AND THEN ON THE -- OKAY. AND THEN ON ITEM F, ON THE RAC,

[F. Accept Fiscal Year 2020-2021 Report from Robstown Area Development Commission (RADC); and authorize FY 2021-2022 Contract.]

12,000. IS THERE A SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

[K. Ratify the hiring of Tonya Webber (Porter, Rogers, Dahlman & Gordon, P.C.) to handle internal employee related investigations as assigned by the County Attorney and ratify the November 16, 2021, engagement letter.]

ITEM NUMBER K, ITEM K. >> I DON'T KNOW.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN EXPLANATION WHAT THAT IS.

BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE RATIFYING THE HIRING OF TONYA WEBER. WE ALREADY HIRED HER.

I KNOW WE HIRED HER ONE TIME. ARE WE HIRING HER AGAIN?

>> MS. DORSEY? >> WE ADDRESSED THIS LAST TIME AND I BELIEVE THE COURT ASKED US TO GO BACK AND CHANGE SOME PAPERWORK. THAT IS WHAT WE BROUGHT BACK.

THE COURT: THIS IS HOUSEKEEPING FOR THE LAST EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT THE LAST COURT MEETING.

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EXECUTIVE SESSION. THE JUDGE WAS ASKING MS. WEBER TO CHANGE SOME THINGS IN THE LETTER.

I WASN'T TOO SPECIFIC OF THE WORDING WE CHANGED ON THE LETTER. BUT I MEAN, IS THIS AGAIN, I KNOW WE HIRED MS. WEBER FOR THREE DIFFERENT THINGS.

WE HIRED HER TO DO THE INVESTIGATION ON THE AUDIT DEPARTMENT. AND DO THE INVESTIGATION --

>> COMMISSIONER, IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL, I WOULD ASK TO PULL IT INTO EXECUTIVE.

>> I'M NOT. ALSO, WE DID THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. AND ALSO THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE

THAT WE APPROVED FOR HER TO DO. >> YES.

>> SO I MEAN, ARE THOSE THINGS ALREADY COMPLETED, ALL THREE OF

THOSE THINGS COMPLETED? >> NO. SOME OF THEM ARE ONGOING. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, I DON'T KNOW. THAT IS YOU KNOW, AN ONGOING

ISSUE, THIS FIRST YEAR. >> THAT IS MY QUESTION.

I DON'T THINK WE EVER GAVE HER -- I DON'T REMEMBER IF WE'VE EVER GIVEN HER A BLANKET AUTHORIZATION TO CONTINUE FROM ONE CASE TO ANOTHER CASE TO ANOTHER CASE.

I MEAN, I THINK MY OPINION, I THINK WE NEED TO -- IF IT'S A DIFFERENT CASE, WE NEED TO GO BACK AND HIRE HER ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. HOW DO WE GO BACK AND SAY YOU

TERMINATE HERE >> WELL, I BELIEVE, MELISSA THE COURT: THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM IS JUST MINISTERIAL AND IT'S BASED ON THE DIRECTION THAT OUR COURT GAVE TO YOU LAST TIME. IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM, HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT IT IN EXECUTIVE.

BUT TO BE CLEAR WHAT THIS ITEM IS, IS YOU ACTED UPON OUR DIRECTION TO CHANGE SOME WORDING, THAT WORDING WAS CHANGED. AND NOW THIS BASICALLY INDICATES THAT THIS LETTER IS HERE BEFORE US AGAIN.

>> IT WASN'T MY DIRECTION. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS. I'M NO FOR THIS.

I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION EITHER.

SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION, THEY CAN.

>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION. SO MY REMEMBRANCE ON THAT WAS THAT IT WAS ONLY FOR THINGS THAT THERE MIGHT BE A CONFLICT IN YOUR OFFICE WITH, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> EITHER A CONFLICT OR SOMETHING WHERE SHE HAD AN EXPERTISE THAT WE DID NOT HAVE. THESE WERE SPECIAL TO

EMPLOYMENT ISSUES. >> SO I'M LOOKING AT THE CHANGES. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LETTER ARE THE DATE, THE ADDRESSES, SIGNATURE BLOCKS AND ONE SENTENCE STATING THAT JULIE WOULD BE THE POINT OF CONTACT, NOTE THAT THE DISCUSSION DURING COURT ON THE 17TH MAKES IT SEEM THAT THE ENGAGEMENT WAS LIMITED TO THE BOARD OF JUDGES REQUEST FOR INVESTIGATION OF ONE OF THEIR EMPLOYEES, WITH THE INTENTION OF THE LETTER IS TO HAVE THE ENGAGEMENT TO BE OPENED TO VARIOUS INVESTIGATIONS, ASSIGNED BY COUNTY ATTORNEY. SO I THINK -- WELL, I CAN UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN OF KIND OF AN OPEN KIND OF SITUATION.

SO WHAT I WOULD BE WILLING TO SUPPORT ON THIS WOULD BE WITH PRIOR KNOWLEDGE BY THE COURT AND SOME SORT OF APPROVAL.

BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS EITHER. IT'S A LITTLE OPEN-ENDED.

I KNOW WE DID TALK ABOUT LIKE IF YOU HAD A CONFLICT WITH SOMETHING OR YOUR OFFICE HAD A CONFLICT THAT YOU NEEDED SOME HELP, THAT IS OKAY. TO ME, THIS IS OPEN-ENDED MAYBE. SO WE COULD TIGHTEN UP THE LANGUAGE TO WHERE IT SAYS WITH PRIOR NOTICE TO THE COURT AND SO THAT WE JUST KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.

AND THE ABILITY FOR THE COURT TO WEIGH IN.

AND I GET THAT YOU CAN PICK ANY COUNSEL YOU WANT AND WE CAN RATIFY IT. BUT SINCE YOU'RE BRINGING THIS HERE, IT DOES FEEL OPEN-ENDED TO ME.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT COMMISSIONER GONZALES'S CONCERNS ARE.

THAT MAY NOT BE HIS. I WOULD LIKE TO TIGHTEN THE LANGUAGE UP, TO WHERE THERE IS PRIOR KNOWLEDGE TO THE COURT.

BECAUSE AGAIN, I GET YOU CAN HIRE WHOEVER YOU WANT TO HIRE.

TO AVOID THOSE QUESTIONS ON SOMETHING LIKE IF YOU COULD JUST PUT WITH PRIOR, IF THE COURT IS OKAY WITH THAT, WITH PRIOR APPROVAL AND NOTICE TO THE COURT ON WHAT THOSE INVESTIGATIONS ARE, IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I DON'T MEAN, IT'S NOT -- I GET IT.

THEY'RE NOT PUBLIC. BUT WE JUST HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW ABOUT THOSE THINGS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION SETTING, IF

THOSE HAPPEN >> I'M HAPPY TO BRING UPDATES TO THE COURT. IN A SITUATION WHERE TIME MIGHT NOT ALLOW FOR AN ACTUAL COURT HEARING, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO BRING THAT TO THE COURT FOR PRIOR KNOWLEDGE?

>> I THINK YOU'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF SENDING US IN THE WAY THAT YOU FELT WAS APPROPRIATE TO NOTIFY US IF YOU COULDN'T GET US TO A MEETING, YOU DON'T SEND IT TO ALL OF US, YOU SEND IT TO EACH OF US. AS LONG AS YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT WAY, AND THAT KNOWLEDGE, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH

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THAT. I GET THERE IS GOING TO BE OTHERS THAT COME UP LIKE THIS THAT HAPPEN THAT YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO WORK ON FOR SOME REASON OR YOU MAY NOT HAVE THAT EXPERTISE FOR SOME REASON. I'M OKAY IF YOU TIGHTEN THE LANGUAGE UP A LITTLE BIT, JUST WITH NOTIFICATION TO THE COURT.

>> MY LAST QUESTION WOULD BE, THIS LETTER OR THESE THINGS, WAS THAT A FILE OR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE OF RECORD OR DO WE NEED TO GO BACK AND CHANGE ANYTHING ON RECORD OR WHAT?

>> I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, COMMISSIONER.

>> THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD THAT WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE NOW, DIFFERENT WORDING, DO WE ANYWHERE SHOW THAT THIS AGREEMENT HAS BEEN -- IS PART OF THE RECORDS?

GOT TO BE PART OF THE RECORDS. >> THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT BROUGHT AND MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE AGREEMENT, IT ALLOWED US TO DO WHAT WE HAVE DONE. YOU QUESTIONED WHAT WE DID.

SO THE COURT INSTRUCTED OUR OFFICE TO BRING BACK A SPECIFIC LETTER WITH THOSE CHANGES, WHICH WE'VE DONE.

I BELIEVE THAT THE PRIOR ENGAGEMENT LETTERS WOULD SUFFICE. BECAUSE THE COURT ASKED FOR A

DIFFERENT DRAFT. >> THE COURT DIDN'T ASK.

I THINK THE JUDGE ASKED. THE COURT: NO, SIR.

IT CAME AS A VOTE, OUTSIDE OF EXECUTIVE WHEN WE HAD EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE DIRECTED IN OPEN COURT ACTION AND IT WAS A CLEAN-UP. THIS IS MINISTERIAL AT BEST.

THIS IS A NOVEMBER 16TH, 2021, ENGAGEMENT LETTER.

ALL WE DID WAS A LITTLE CLEAN-UP WITH REGARDS TO THE DATE AND TO THE ITEM ITSELF. AND THE COURT DIRECTED THIS.

SO REALLY, AGAIN, I'M GOING TO BRING US BACK TO IT'S A

RATIFICATION OF THE LETTER. >> IT CONCERNS ME THAT WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHANGE SOMETHING.

IF YOU THINK THE ATTORNEY WAS GOOD ENOUGH, WHY ARE WE CHANGING. THE COURT: I'M HAPPY TO DO EITHER ONE. BUT THIS IS WHAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S ADVICE WAS AT THE TIME.

>> WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS ASSIGNED BY YOU AND SHE HAD TO BE ASSIGNED BY YOU TO DO SOMETHING.

SO THERE WAS SOME QUESTION ON THE ASSIGNMENT OF THAT TOO.

SO THIS CLEARLY ARTICULATES THAT YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN ASSIGN MS. WEBER TO DO SOMETHING.

>> I BELIEVE THAT'S BEEN THE PRACTICE, TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

THE COURT: THAT IS EXACTLY HOW IT'S BEEN CONDUCTED, THE WHOLE

SINCE WE'VE ENGAGED HER. >> SO WE'RE GOOD THEN? THE COURT: I THINK WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION TO RATIFY.

>> I WANT TO HEAR, ARE WE GOOD OR NOT?

>> I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT LANGUAGE.

>> I CAN BRING THAT CHANGE BACK OR YOU CAN --

THE COURT: SUBJECT TO. >> SUBJECT TO TIGHTENING UP THE

LANGUAGE IN A SATISFACTORY WAY. >> WE CAN DO IT RIGHT NOW I THINK. SUBJECT TO NOTICE TO THE COURT.

I'M JUST LOOKING FOR A SIMPLE SIGNATURE.

>> I DO HAVE A QUESTION. IS THIS THE ONLY ATTORNEY THAT YOU KNOW, YOU PLAN TO HIRE ON DIFFERENT BASES, OR IS THERE OTHER ATTORNEYS THAT CAN DO THE WORK ALSO?

>> WELL, WE PICK THE ATTORNEY WHO MEETS A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS FOR EACH CASE. THEY ALL -- A LOT OF THEM HAVE DIFFERENT EXPERTISES, AS NEEDED.

AND SO THERE ARE OTHERS, DEPENDING ON THE NEED.

>> YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, IF IT'S LABOR, I HAVE HEARD OF OTHER LABOR ATTORNEYS.

I'M JUST ASKING, YOU KNOW, HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERED OTHER LABOR

ATTORNEYS? >> IF OTHER LABOR ATTORNEYS WOULD LIKE TO REACH OUT TO OUR OFFICE AND DESCRIBE THEIR QUALIFICATIONS, WE'LL LOOK AT THEM.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THE COURT: OKAY. SO HAVING SOME GOOD DISCUSSION, WE ARE NOW READY TO RATIFY THE HIRING OF TONYA WEBER.

AND THAT IS ITEM NUMBER K, LETTER K.

UNDER CONSENT. IS THERE A MOTION TO RATIFY?

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

THE COURT: MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

NAY. THAT CONCLUDES OUR CONSENT AGENDA. AS PROMISED, I'LL MOVE INTO THE REGULAR AGENDA AND I AM GOING TO ADVANCE ITEM 7.

[7. Discuss and consider conditions to be included in Game Room Regulations, such as, operating hours, geographical locations, and maximum machines/sites.]

AND THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE HERE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON ITEM 7.

THAT IS DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER CONDITIONS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE GAME ROOM REGULATIONS, OPERATING HOURS, GEOGRAPHIC LOCATIONS AND MAXIMUM MACHINE SITES.

WE ALSO HAVE WITH US, FIRE MARSHAL VARAS WHO HAS BEEN WORKING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT. BEEN WORKING WITH OTHER COUNTIES, ENTITIES WHO HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED REGULATIONS, IN ORDER TO PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND.

AGAIN, THIS IS AN EFFORT TO AS THEY SAY, MOVE THE NEEDLE.

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WE'VE BEEN ROUND AND ROUND AND WE REALLY NEED TO YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD ON SOME DECISION MAKING.

SO FOR ME TODAY, A WAY TO GET US STARTED TO TALK ABOUT SOME BASICS. OPERATING HOURS, GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION, MAXIMUM MACHINE SLASH SITES.

I WANT TO SET THE TABLE FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL, WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR WAS OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE SOME INPUT FROM YOU, BASED ON THE RESEARCH AND JUST TELL THE GROUP.

YOU'VE BEEN MEETING COLLECTIVELY WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT IN ORDER TO BRING US SOME INFORMATION HERE TODAY.

>> WE HAVE. AND THERE WAS A PRELIMINARY ORDINANCE THAT WAS WRITTEN UP, SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS. WE'VE MET WITH A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS WITH OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT CHIEF COOK AND THE SHERIFF TO DISCUSS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH THE ORDINANCE. THERE ARE SOME PARTICULAR ITEMS THAT WE LEFT AND WE WANTED TO BRING THOSE TO THE COURT.

AND YOU JUST MENTIONED, AS SUCH, OPERATING HOURS, THE GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATIONS OF EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE THINKING WE WANT THEM, OR DON'T WANT THEM, MORE IMPORTANTLY.

AND THE AMOUNT OF MACHINES THAT WE WANT IN EACH GAME ROOM.

I'LL ASK COUNTY ATTORNEY MS. DORSEY --

>> UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE, SO THESE FINE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING HERE KNOW WHERE WE ARE. BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING REALLY HARD TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE, SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE ON THAT TOO.

>> OKAY. AS FAR AS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S INVOLVEMENT, WE HAVE WORKED TO DRAFT AND CHANGE FROM THE REGULATIONS BROUGHT TO US BY THE FIRE MARSHAL, WE HAVE MET WITH THE SHERIFF, WE HAVE MET WITH CHIEF COOK WE HAVE DISTRIBUTED THE CURRENT DRAFT TO CCPD, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE WHO HAS SAID SO FAR SO GOOD.

THERE ARE ISSUES THAT WE ARE TRYING TO BE INNOVATIVE, GIVEN PROBLEMS WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS.

I HAVE TALKED WITH OTHER PROSECUTORS WHO ARE DEALING WITH LITIGATION BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY GONE THIS ROUTE.

SO WE'RE GATHERING PLEADINGS IN ANTICIPATION OF WHAT WILL PROBABLY BE LITIGATION AFTER THE COURT PASSES AN ORDINANCE.

AS SOON AS THE SHERIFF IS SATISFIED WITH THE DRAFT, WE HAVE DISCUSSED HAVING -- PUBLISHING THE DOCUMENT FOR REVIEW BY THE COMMUNITY AND HAVING AN OPEN MEETING FOR

INPUT. >> AND THEN DID WE FIND OUT, JENNY, WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE FOR THE COUNTY, IF WE SO CHOOSE TO CHARGE AND CREATE A REVENUE SOURCE? BECAUSE THAT WAS A BIG CONCERN ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY AFFORD TO ENFORCE IT. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT MONEY LAYING AROUND. WERE Y'ALL ABLE TO FIND

ANYTHING ON THAT? >> NOTHING THAT WOULD ALLOW A CHARGE ABOVE THIS NOMINAL FEE THAT IS A PART OF THE STAMP OF PERCENTAGE OF EACH STAMP FOR EACH MACHINE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE VERY SMALL AND YOU HAVE THE $1,000 PER PERMIT PER YEAR.

I MEAN, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY MAKE IT A SIX-MONTH THING.

BUT THAT STILL WOULD ONLY AFFECT THOSE $1,000 APPLICATION FEES. SO AS FAR AS THE STATUTE ALLOWING FOR A LARGER PERCENTAGE, IT'S NOT ALLOWED THERE. THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND.

>> SO AT THIS POINT -- OKAY. SO AT THIS POINT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THERE IS NOT A WAY LEGALLY TO COME UP WITH A SUBSTANTIAL REVENUE SOURCE. BECAUSE WE SAW THE NUMBERS THAT THEY CAME WITH AND SAID IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS, YOU HAVE TO SPEND THIS. THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE --

>> WE'VE MET WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO SAID THEY READ IT DIFFERENTLY. BUT IT'S NOT SUPPORTED.

THE IDEA -- NOBODY HAS BROUGHT ANYTHING THAT IS

>> COMPELLING. >> COMPELLING

>> COMPELLING TO YOU LEGALLY. SURE.

I MEAN, I GET IT. OKAY.

WE'LL JUST KEEP -- OKAY. WE'LL KEEP MOVING ALONG.

SO AGAIN, THESE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP COMING AND SITTING AND WAITING AND HOPING THAT WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING, BECAUSE AT SOME POINT THE COURT HAS INDICATED WE WANT TO PASS AN ORDINANCE, ENFORCEMENT OF IT IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT. BUT YOU'VE GOT TO CRAWL BEFORE YOU CAN WALK. JUST TO GET AN ORDINANCE ON THE BOOKS WOULD BE SOMETHING. DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF TIME

FRAME ON THAT? >> WE'VE MET WITH VARIOUS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. I'VE GOTTEN ANOTHER GROUP THAT WANTS TO MEET NOW. I MEAN, THAT IS UP TO THE SHERIFF AS FAR AS WHEN HE IS TO A TIMELINE WE

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I THINK HIS WORDS WERE, FOR EVERY ACTION TAKEN IN LAW, IT IS OUR DUTY TO GO AND MAKE CERTAIN THOSE LAWS ARE ENFORCED AND WE WILL DO OUR BEST. I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE SAID, WE

WILL DO OUR BEST. >> THE CONVERSATION THAT SHE IS GREEN AND I HAD EARLIER, THAT'S

EXACTLY WHAT HE -- >> I'VE HAD THAT BOTH ARTICULATED TO ME.

THIS IS HERE SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THE NEEDLE SO THE BUSINESS WE ARE MEETING AND TALKING AND TALKING AND MEETING, IT ISN'T GETTING US ANYWHERE. AND WHAT I REALLY THINK --

>> THAT'S WHY SUGGESTED WE PUT ON THE AGENDA. >> IS ON THE AGENDA TODAY.

>> BUT THERE IS NO ORDINANCE. >> UNDERSTAND BUT LET'S GIVE SOME DIRECTION.

HERE IS SOMETHING GOOD TO TALK ABOUT. SOMETHING GOOD TO TALK ABOUT IS THE GAME ROOM AND OPERATION SHALL NOT BE LOOKING WITH 1500 FEET FROM A SCHOOL OR PLACE OF WORSHIP. THAT IS A GOOD POLICY. IT'S A POLICY USED IN MANY DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS, AND ONE THAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS TODAY WITH THE COURT SO THAT WE COULD GET A FEEL AND THOSE WHO ARE DRAFTING, CAN GET OUR DIRECTION SO IT IS OUR POLICY, AND THE OTHER WRITERS, THEY ARE THE SCRIBNERS AND IF BOTH LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ARE GOING TO TAKE OUR POLICY AND ENFORCE IT, THEN THE NEXT COURT CAN JUST BE ABOUT MAKING CERTAIN THAT THOSE PARAMETERS THAT ARE ARTICULATED IN THE POLICY, ARE ONES THAT WE AGREE ON.

ANOTHER THE DOCUMENT START OF BEING 32 PAGES LONG, AND NOW 24 PAGES LONG.

THE DRAFT WAS PROVIDED TO ME BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. SOME OF THOSE ARE JUST BASICALLY NO, DEFINITIONS, SO LET'S CALL IT A 20 PAGE DOCUMENT MAY BE.

MOST OF WHICH THE AFFECTED STAKEHOLDERS HAVE SEEN BECAUSE A LOT OF COPY AND PASTE FROM OTHER REGULATIONS. SO TO GET INPUT FROM THE COURT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS OFFICE CAN DRAFT WITH PARTICULARITY IS THIS IDEA OF GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION AND RESTRICTION.

AND BY THE WAY, IT ALSO SAYS OR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD BUT THAT ONE IS REALLY TRICKY BECAUSE NEIGHBORHOODS CAN BUTT UP AGAINST BY FENCE LINE TO COMMERCIAL CENTERS AND SO WHAT I'M THINKING IS THIS IS A LIVING DOCUMENT, A DOCUMENT THAT AS YOU SEE HOW IT APPLIES INSIDE YOUR JURISDICTION, YOU WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND YOU WORK WITH PROSECUTORIAL OFFICE TO SAY THIS ISN'T WORKING FOR US BECAUSE YOUR GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION LEFT OUT

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SOMETHING REALLY IMPORTANT. BUT I THINK WE SHOULD AT LEAST START WITH SCHOOLS AND PLACES OF WORSHIP. AND I WANTED TO SEE HOW THE COURT FELT ABOUT THAT SO WE COULD GIVE DIRECTION.HAT'S WHY HAVE IT ON HERE BECAUSE WITHOUT IT YOU WILL BRING US REGULATIONS, THERE WILL BE SO MANY DIFFERENT PARAMETERS THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVE IT WITHOUT AT LEAST HAVING SOME AT THIS POINT, MODEST DISCUSSION.

>> I THINK THE HARD PART JUDGE, YOU'VE SEEN THE DRAFT AND I HAVE NOT SEEN THE DRAFT OF ANYONE ALSO SEEN THE DRAFT. MAYBE WE ALL SAW IT WE MIGHT HAVE MORE INPUT TODAY.

>> I JUST ASKED JENNY FORD AND SHE SENT IT TO ME THAT'S ALL. >> THAT'S GREAT THAT YOU'VE

SEEN IT. >> WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING TO BE DONE ON THIS SO, COULD HAVE PROVIDED MORE INFORMATION BUT I WAS NOT -- I MEAN.

>> IT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO.

>> I THINK THE IDEA HERE IS THAT WE BEEN ASKING AND ASKING AND ALL I'M SAYING IS LET'S GIVE YOU SOME DIRECTION SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE MAJOR PARAMETERS.

>> AND AGAIN MAYBE. >> RIGHT NOW IS HAPPENING IS LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE DEALING WITH A DOUBLE AND TRIPLICATE OF GAME ROOMS. EXCUSE ME AS SOON AS I FINISH I CAN CALL ON YOU. THE WAY IT WORKS IS I CALL THE COMMISSIONERS.

JUST GIVE ME ONE WOMAN. >> YOU BEEN TALKING ALL MORNING JUDGE.

>> OKAY THAT'S WHAT WE DO WE OR ELECTIVES. GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR

FROM SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE IN THE ROOM. >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> THE NICE THING IS THAT THE GEOGRAPHICAL RESTRICTION IS SOMETHING I THINK WE CAN ALL HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT TO GIVE YOU, THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE THINKING.

SO ANYWAY, THOSE ARE THE THREE CRITERIA SCHOOLS, PLACES OF WORSHIP AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE SHOULD BE SOME INCLUSION AS IN OTHER REGULATIONS ON NEIGHBORS.

IT MAKES IT TRICKY WHEN YOU'RE NEIGHBORHOODS STRIP CENTERS ARE NOW INSIDE NEIGHBORHOODS OR AT

LEAST ADJACENT TO. >> ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS TO GET A PERMIT.

THEY CAN OPERATE UNLESS A PERMIT. THAT SHOULD BE THE NUMBER ONE

THING. >> THIS REGULATION WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS WITHIN THE PERMIT. IF WE WERE TO DO REGULATIONS, IT WOULD BE TO RECEIVE A PERMIT AND THE PERMIT WOULD HAVE AN ATTACHMENT OF PARAMETERS. THAT'S THE IDEA.

>> I LOVE TO BE ABLE TO BE HERE ALL DAY I WOULD JUST WISH THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THE AGENDA SO -- TO PIECEMEAL AS IT MAY ALL BE, I LOVE TO HEAR FROM ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE AND THAT I WOULD LOVE TO GET THIS ON LIKE I SAID EARLIER, I LIKE TO GET THIS ON THE NEXT AVAILABLE AGENDA AND LET'S GET THIS VOTED UP OR DOWN. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS NEEDS

TO BE BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING TODAY BUT TALK MORE. >> ACTUALLY, THERE'S AN AGENDA ITEM THAT SAYS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CONDITIONS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE REGULATIONS.

SO THE AGENDA ITEM IS REALLY SPECIFIC AND -- >> BUT THERE IS NO BACKUP.

>> EXCUSE ME, IT'S A DISCUSS AND CONSIDER OPERATING HOURS AND I'M ASKING FOR INPUT AND THAT'S WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE TO TALK ABOUT OPERATING HOURS.

WE ARE ASKING FOR GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATIONS. I JUST PUT FORTH THE GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION THAT I'M PUTTING FORTH AS A CONSIDERATION.

IN THE FINAL ONE IS MAXIMUM MACHINE SITE. THE IDEA ON THIS AGENDA ITEM IS LITERAL. JUST READ IT WORD FOR WORD IT IS TO CONSIDER CONDITIONS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE REGULATIONS. SO I CONCUR THAT NEXT AGENDA, WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE REGULATIONS BROUGHT FORTH TO BE VOTED UP OR DOWN AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A TIME CERTAIN IF NEXT AGENDA IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO HAVE THEM READY. BUT TODAY'S AGENDA ITEM, IS --

QUICK SO WHAT IS THE PRICE -- >> YOU WANT TO -- IT'S EITHER ONE THING OR THE OTHER.

IF IT DOESN'T WORK, PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA OR GIVE US A DATE THAT WOULD WORK.

THAT'S THE OPTION. >> CAN EXPRESS MY CONCERN? >> AS SOON AS I FINISH.

BUT THE IDEA IS THOSE ARE THE THREE THINGS THAT WERE GOING TO ESTABLISH HER TODAY.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT JENNY, YOU UNDERSTAND THERE IS AN AGENDA ITEM HERE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A MOTION THAT THOSE ARE THE THREE CONDITIONS THAT THE COURT COULD VOTE ON TO PROVIDE YOU THE INFORMATION TO BE INCLUDED IN THE GAME ROOM. AND I'M LOOKING FOR YOUR CONCURRENT BECAUSE THERE IS NO NEED TO HAVE ANY BACKUP IF WE ARE DISCUSSING WHAT THOSE HOURS ARE, TO HAVE THEM INCLUDED, WHAT THEY GEOGRAPHIC RESTRICTIONS ARE OR WHAT THE MAXIMUM SITES ARE. THREE PIECES OF INFORMATION TO GIVE TO YOU, TO INCLUDE.

RIGHT HERE. DOES THAT HELP? >> JUDGE, IF YOU HAVE A MOTION,

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IF THERE IS DISCUSSION, GREAT. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE IN AGREEMENT THERE IS AN

AGENDA ITEM THAT WE COULD HAVE A MOTION ON. >> I CAN FORWARD THE DOCUMENTS

ALL THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE IT. >> I'VE SEEN NOTHING. >> VARIOUS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. I LIKE TO SHARE THE DOCUMENT THAT WE HAVE SO EVERYBODY

KNOWS. >> MISSION RP REQUEST BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER WITH THIS

DISCUSSION. >> I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN.

>> I WILL CALL ON YOU. >> COMMISSIONER -- >> MY CONCERN IS THAT CHIEF, HAVE YOU BEEN CERTIFIED? THIS ORDINANCE YOU WANT TO MAKE -- JENNY, THAT'S NOT PART OF

THE -- >> HE'S MAKING AN ORDINANCE. >> HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH FIRE.> I UNDERSTAND BUT IF HE CAN STOMACH THE ORDINANCE IS IT LEGAL FOR HIM TO DO? I JUST DON'T WANT TO GO BACK AND BE IN THE SAME SITUATION WE ARE NOW, OKAY?

>> DOES NOT PART OF THIS. >> HE DID SAY IT WAS GOING TO BE LITIGATED, OKAY?

SO IF IT IS LITIGATED, THEY MIGHT BRING THAT UP. >> OKAY, I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS HIS CONCERN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WHEN WE GET THERE. BECAUSE IT IS NOT GERMANE TO THIS INFORMATION THAT, ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE TOWARDS THE ROLL.AGAIN, THE AGENDA ITEM IS VERY SPECIFIC, THREE ITEMS. I WILL FIRST CALL ON BETTY SHEETS. I'M JUST TAKING IN THE ORDER THAT YOU GUYS WERE UNLESS YOU WANT TO CHANGE ANY ORDER. ABSOLUTELY, KATHLEEN WHITE. ABSOLUTELY.

KATHLEEN. >> WE STARTED THIS WITH, HAD MEETINGS WITH SHERIFF COOPER ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO WHEN IT FIRST CAME TO THIS COURT. ABOUT 2 1/2 YEARS AGO.

WE ARE REALLY EXCITED THAT Y'ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW IN LOOKING AT SPECIFICS AND HOPEFULLY WILL HAVE AN ORDINANCE REAL SOON. YOU KNOW LIKE AT THE NEXT MEETING WE WILL START DISCUSSING SPECIFICS OF IT. I WAS ALSO ELATED TO FIND THAT CCPD AN COUNTY ATTORNEY HAVE TAKEN ACTION ON SHUTTING DOWN SOME ILLEGAL GAME ROOMS IN THE AREA. AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THEM THEY'VE GOT 2 MILLION+ FINE, I HOPE TO GET TO KEEP ALL THAT MONEY. AND CCPD LEVEL TO HELP FIGHT CRIME IN THE AREA. BUT WE AS A GROUP, HAVE BEEN FOUND TO BE VERY PATIENT, WE TRY TO BE HELPFUL, WE HAVE TRIED TO EDUCATE ON AREAS THAT WE KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT.

WE HAVE BROUGHT NUMEROUS ORDINANCES TO Y'ALL. ANYTHING WE'VE ASKED TO HELP WITH, WE TRIED TO, TO DO THAT ON A TIMELY BASIS. RECENTLY, WE WENT THROUGH, WERE ASKED TO GO THROUGH THE BELL COUNTY ORDINANCE. AND MARK THOSE THINGS THAT WE THINK ARE IMPORTANT. AND TO HAVE A COUNTY ORDINANCE AND EVERYONE ON THE TEAM CIRCULATED IT WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. WE PRESENTED TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN ASSIGNED TO WORK WITH ME, THE HIGHLIGHTED BELL COUNTY ORDINANCE MANY PROVISIONS THAT JUDGECANALES IS TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW ARE INCLUDED IN THAT.

THE 1500 FEET AS PART OF THE COUNTY , THE 50 MACHINES, THE LIMITATION IS PART OF THE ORDINANCE. AND THE HOURS OF OPERATION FROM 8 TO 9 AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT HAS WORKED WELL IN THE COUNTY IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE BROUGHT THE ORDINANCE HERE SOMETIME BACK. WAS BECAUSE WE WERE RESEARCHING ALL THE DIFFERENT COUNTIES AND RENEW BELL COUNTY HAD SOME REAL SUCCESS WITH IT.

>> IS AT 8:00 A.M. TO 9 PM? >> YES SIR. I'M A LITTLE APPREHENSIVE I'M WAITING ON THE SHERIFF ANYTHING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE BEEN DOING THREE YEARS AND AS YOU WELL KNOW, NOT MANY MEETINGS AGO HE CAME UP HERE AND SAID WE DON'T NEED AN ORDINANCE TO FLIP-FLOP AFTER TWO AND HALF YEARS. IT CONCERNS ME WE DON'T WANT TO BE AT THE MERCY OF THE SHERIFF CHANGING HIS MIND. HE'S ALREADY CHANGED HIS MIND OBVIOUSLY CCPD HAS NOT AND COUNTY ATTORNEYS OFFICE WHO IS PROSECUTING THOSE HAS NOT.

I WOULD ASK THAT Y'ALL PROCEED, PROCEED WITH SOME PROMPTNESS. BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN SO LONG AND

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GIVE US A TIME CERTAIN WHEN WE CAN EXPECT TO SEE A DRAFT WITH COMMENT ON SPECIFICALLY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR TIME ON THIS AND IT IS VERY MEANINGFUL TO US.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. NEXT, I'VE GOT IS IT EDDIE -- YOU WILL YIELD? OKAY, THANK YOU. OKAY. MARGARET BALDWIN.

YOU ARE GOOD, OKAY. SUSIE LUNA SALDANA. >> SUSIE LUNA SALDANA, I TOO AM HOPING THAT YOU GET THIS ON THE AGENDA QUICKLY AND WE FIND SOME PARAMETERS TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION, WHEN IT COMES TO TIME, ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT LOVES TO GAMBLE SO I'M TELLING YOU THAT I'M TALKING FROM EXPERIENCE.

IF I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO GAMBLE, YOU COMPETITIVE FROM 9 O'CLOCK UNTIL 2:00 IN THE MORNING. OKAY, THOSE WOULD BE MY PREFERRED TIMES.

IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE OTHER AGENDA ITEMS THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT, THE REGULATIONS ARE IMPORTANT. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SAID THAT THERE WAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU CAN GENERATE FROM THE FEES. BUT YOU CAN ALSO REGULATE THE MACHINES THAT ARE THERE. I THINK IF YOU SET IT UP TO 50 MACHINES, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE MUCH OF A THING GOING. I WOULD LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A PLACE WHERE I COULD GO AND THERE'S AT LEAST 150 MACHINES OR 200 MACHINES. THAT'S WHAT I LOOK FOR.

AS A PERSON IS INVOLVED LOVING TO GO TO CASINOS AND GAMBLE, OKAY? SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO YOU ALL COMING UP WITH SOME SOLUTIONS AND ACTUALLY COMING UP WITH A DATE TO DO IT. I THINK YOU HAVE A FINAL, FINANCIAL REVIEW SOURCE THAT YOU COULD TAG INTO IT. I THINK YOU CAN CHARGE PER MACHINE.

I THINK YOU CAN CHARGE THE FEES THAT THEY ARE TELLING YOU YOU CAN AND I THINK YOU CAN GENERATE ENOUGH FINANCE FOR THE GAME ROOMS TO BE MONITORED. I THINK THEY CAN COME UP WITH THE SOURCES OF MONEY THAT YOU CAN HAVE TO MONITOR THEM AND YOU CAN HIRE THE PEOPLE YOU NEED TO HIRE. IT'S ALSO ESSENTIAL THAT YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT BEST SUITS THE COUNTY AND THE CITY. YOU NEED TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PERMITS THAT YOU PUT OUT.

I AM IN FAVOR OF THAT. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE GAME ROOMS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

HAVE A LIMITED NUMBER OF PERMITS THAT YOU GIVE OUT. WHETHER YOU MAKE IT 75 OR 100, THE SHOULDN'T BE MORE THAN THAT. I DON'T WANT TO SEE A GAME ROOM IN EVERY CORNER. BUT I DO WANT TO SEE A GAME ROOM WHERE HE CAN GO PLAY -- I SOME OPERATE SAFELY AND SOME YOU SHOULD SHUT DOWN I'M ASKING YOU TO REALLY CONSIDER THIS BECAUSE IF YOU CONSIDER THINGS LIKE THAT AND YOU PUT YOUR ORDINANCE IN THE PERMITS, AND I KNOW YOU ONLY LOOK AT -- AND ABBOTT BEFORE THE PERMIT IS ISSUED YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T ISSUE IT TO ANYONE THAT HAS A FELONY, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

THEY KEEP PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO DO A PRETTY GAME AND DON'T HAVE A FELONY, THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO KEEP UP THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT FROM THOSE GAME ROOMS. AND LET ME TELL YOU SOME TALKING FROM EXPERIENCE I HAD THREE GAME ROOMS ACROSS MY OFFICE TILL GOT CLOSED AND THANK GOD THEY DID BECAUSE THEY WERE OPERATING SOMETHING THAT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPENING. BUT I WANT TO SEE THOSE THAT ARE SAFE.

WHERE I CAN GO PLAY AS A PLAYER AND FEEL SAFE ABOUT GOING THERE.

I WISH THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT. I APPRECIATE YOU SETTING A TIMELINE AND GETTING THIS OVER WITH. IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME WE ARE WAITING FOR THIS TO HAPPEN. AND I DON'T WANT TO WORRY IF I GO GAMBLE THAT THE PLACE WILL BE RATED. OKAY? [LAUGHTER] SO THANK YOU VERY

MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH IT AGAIN TO MAKE SURE I'VE GOT EVERYBODY. BETTY, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK NEXT? ALL RIGHT MS. BETTY SHEETS. AND I THINK THAT'S IT ON GAME ROOMS BUT I WILL LOOK. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE, JUST RAISE YOUR HAND.

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MS. SHEETS WILL BE THE LAST SPEAKER AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO THE AGENDA ITEM.

>> THANK YOU JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. IT IS VERY SELDOM THAT I GET MY FEATHERS RUFFLED BECAUSE I'M NOT A DOCTOR. BUT I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING, THIS REALLY RUFFLED ME. THE LOCATION. I TOTALLY AGREE, SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A DRIVE DOWN SARATOGA ANYTIME FROM 10 O'CLOCK THIS MORNING, TO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HOURS OF THE NIGHT.

THAT GAME ROOM OVER THERE, PRIME TIME IS WHAT IT'S CALLED. HAS GOT CARS DOWN TO THE SCHOOL, THE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY, THEY FILL THE PARKING LOT, THEY FILL THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE NEXT DOOR, THERE IS SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY, MOST PRECIOUS BLOOD CHURCH, MOST PRECIOUS BLOOD SCHOOL, BISHOP -- SCHOOL, JOHN PAUL AND NOW YOU'VE GOT CAROL GOING UP. THESE CAROL KIDS OLD ENOUGH THAT THEY WILL BE IN THAT GAME ROOM. AND SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

MARK MY WORDS. SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN. WHEN I GET UP HERE FOR TO SAY WAS JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, GOD HAS BLESSED US BECAUSE LIKE KATHLEEN SAID, WE BEEN TO THE CITY MANY TIMES. AND GOT NOTHING.E CAME TO YOU ALL, AND YOU HAVE DONE SOMETHING FOR US. AND FOR OUR CHARITIES. WE WILL BE ABLE TO HELP OUR PEOPLE THAT WE ARE HELPING AND WE THANK YOU, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS FOR ALL OF YOUR CONSIDERATION TOWARD OUR CHARITIES. THANK YOU JUDGE.

>> THANK YOU. AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I GIVE, I DON'T KNOW IF LAW ENFORCEMENT IS HERE JUST TO LISTEN, OBSERVE, ALWAYS WELCOME TO SAY SOMETHING OR MAKE COMMENT. THE COMMISSIONER AND I JUST SAID WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE YOU OUT OF THE DISCUSSION. MY PURPOSE HERE WAS, I KNOW EVERYONE IS RESTLESS AND WE'VE BEEN GOING OVER IT. I DO FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS BEING VERY SUPPORTIVE, THEY ARE SAYING POLICYMAKERS PAST IT AND WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO DO WHAT WE DO EVERY SINGLE DAY ON THE STREETS, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT YOU GUYS. YOU DON'T PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH CRIMES, YOU MAKE CERTAIN ALL OF THESE LAWS ARE ENFORCED. BUT WE WERE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU IF YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING. ONE OF THE THINGS I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING THE MAXIMUM SIZE I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A LOG ON HOW MANY THERE ARE IN THE COMMUNITY BUT I THINK A GOOD STATEMENT TO MAKE IS, WE WANT NO MORE THAN ARE HERE TODAY, IN OTHER WORDS, IF 100 IS WHAT WE HAVE, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE MORE THAN 100. BUT AGAIN, I'M LOOKING FOR 75, I'M LOOKING FOR A NUMBER SO I CAN KNOW WHAT RECOMMENDATION I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION

HERE, CHIEF? CHIEF COOK. >> CHIEF COOK, NUECES COUNTY.

YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER THAT YOU CAN LIMIT THE NUMBER OF GAME ROOMS PER PRECINCT.

>> OKAY. >> THAT IS SOMETHING YOU CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT AND IT WILL LIMIT -- IT IS NOT IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT YOU WILL RECEIVE.

WE HAVE WRITTEN INTO THE ORDINANCE, HOW CLOSE THEY CAN BE TO A SCHOOL AND A CHURCH, I THINK WE PUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HE WAS TALKING ABOUT CONCERN FOR THAT SO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT CAN DISCUSS THAT. YOU CAN ALSO DETERMINE HOW MANY YOU WANT PER PRECINCT. YOU CAN RESTRICT THEM IF YOU CHOOSE TO TO UNINCORPORATED AREAS ONLY. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE CLEAR IS THAT I HAVE FIELDED SO MANY PHONE CALLS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT ONCE WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE, AND WE HAVE ISSUED PERMITS, THAT THESE GAME ROOMS ARE GOING TO BE PERFECTLY LEGAL AND WHAT I MAKE CLEAR TO EACH AND EVERY PERSON THAT CALLS ME, IF THOSE GAME ROOMS ARE CONTINUING TO MAKE PAYOUTS IN EXCESS OF FIVE DOLLARS IT IS ILLEGAL GAMBLING. AND THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE IS THE ONE THAT CONTROLS.

THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI DOES NOT, NUECES COUNTY ESSO DOES NOT IN THE GAME ROOMS WILL

CONTINUE TO BE RATED CASES ARE MADE ON THOSE LOCATIONS. >> VERY GOOD INFORMATION.

>> I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A MEETING WITH THE PUBLIC ON THIS WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT AND

SET THAT UP SO THAT WE CAN GET PUBLIC INPUT INTO THIS ISSUE. >> RIGHT.

TWO MOVES ALONG, IF THERE ANY THER QUESTIONS, DON'T HESITATE TO REQUEST WANT TO CALL CAPTAIN

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GREEN COMMANDER GREEN BECAUSE THAT IS HOW I KNEW HIM BUT NOW HE'S CHIEF.

IT WAS MENTIONED LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS BEEN DOING A LOT ESPECIALLY CCPD ON ILLEGAL GAME ROOMS. I THINK CHIEF COOK REALLY HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD, JUST BECAUSE WE MAY AUTHORIZE SOMETHING AT A LATER DATE DOESN'T MEAN IT'S THE WILD WEST AND EVERYONE CAN DO IT. THERE ARE STILL LIMITS THAT MUST BE FOLLOWED BY STATE LAW.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN ENFORCING IN THE LAST FEW DAYS AND A WEEK OR SO.

>> YES COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU. ODD GREENE, ASSISTANT CHIEF CORPUS CHRISTI POLICE DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATION BUREAU. THAT'S EXACTLY CORRECT.

EVEN IF THIS ORDINANCE IS PASSED AND WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT IT IS, IT WILL GIVE THE CITY POLICE, US, ONE MORE TOOL TO GO ENFORCE ILLEGAL GAMBLING. WE BELIEVE IT IS OCCURRING IN MANY GAMES. IT WILL GIVE US ONE MORE TOOL. IT WILL BE MUCH SIMPLER FOR US TO ENFORCE, IT WON'T TAKE AS BIG OF AN INVESTIGATION OR RESOURCES AS IT DOES NOW TO TRY AND PROVE ILLEGAL GAMBLING. THE MERE FACT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A PERMIT OR THAT THEY ARE VIOLATING THE PERMIT OR MANY REGULATIONS THAT ARE WITHIN THE PERMIT.

IT WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR OUR OFFICERS TO GO IN TO ONE OF THESE PLACES AND SEE WHETHER THEY ARE OPERATING UNDER THE COUNTY ORDINANCE. DOES THAT MEAN THERE WILL BE NO ILLEGAL GAMBLING? NO. WE BELIEVE THAT WILL CONTINUE.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO FORCE OUTLOOK RIGHT NOW. JUST LAST WEEK WE MADE A CASE ON A LOCAL GAME ROOM THAT WE THOUGHT WAS ENGAGING IN ILLEGAL GAMBLING AND WE MADE A CASE, WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PRIOR TO THE INVESTIGATION, TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE WERE DOING WAS SOLID AND THEY WOULD HAVE A VERY STRONG CASE TO GO TO COURT WITH SO WE WORKED WITH THEM PRIOR TO THE OPERATION. WE OBTAINED A SEARCH WARRANT, WE SERVED A SEARCH WARRANT AND MADE SEVERAL ARRESTS, SEIZED A LARGE AMOUNT OF CASH AND MACHINES AND WE INTEND TO CONTINUE THE OPERATION. AS FAR AS THE ORDINANCE WE ARE HOPEFUL IT WILL PASS AND GIVE US ONE MORE TOOL THAT WE CAN USE TO EXPEDITE THE

ENFORCEMENT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, LOOKING AT THIS REAL QUICK AND LOOKS LIKE THERE IS ALREADY SUGGESTING FOR OPERATING OUR GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATIONS AND HOW THEY CAN BE THAT KIND OF THINGS LOOKS LIKE THE STUFF IS ALREADY IN HERE, DID YOU ADJUST THE MAXIMUM

MACHINE SITES? >> YES SO FAR THE DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD WITH THE SHERIFF I BELIEVE, THE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN NO MORE THAN 175 OR 200 GAMES PER LOCATION IF I'M

WRONG. I KNOW THAT'S IN THERE BUT -- >> SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF THINGS

ON THIS. >> WE DO HAVE PROPOSALS. YOU KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT'S

AGREEABLE. >> AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO READ THIS DRAFT BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT AND ENERGY ON IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE FOLKS HAVE HAD A CHANCE BEEN ABLE TO SEE IT, I LIKE TO PUT ON THE NEXT AGENDA AND VOTE THE WHOLE THING UP OR DOWN WHENEVER WE CAN. LET'S GO BECAUSE TO PIECEMEAL THIS DOESN'T REALLY MAKE A LOT OF SENSE WHEN THERE'S ALREADY A BUNCH OF SUGGESTIONS IN HERE.

THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO READ. SO, YOU KNOW I'M READY TO PUT ON THE NEXT AGENDA IF WE CAN PUT IT ON WITH THE ORDINANCE, IT WOULD GIVE EVERYBODY A COUPLE OF WEEKS IN THE ROOM BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVEN'T SEEN THIS DRAFT ORDINANCE EITHER I'M

ASSUMING. >> THEY GIVE US THE REGULATION. >> NOT THIS DRAFT ORDER.

THE ONE WE DISCUSSED FIVE MINUTES AGO, I LIKE THEM TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT.

AND HAVE THEM HAVE PUBLIC INPUT BEFORE AND THEN PUBLIC INPUT WHEN WE COME BACK AND THEN VOTE UP OR DOWN AT THE NEXT MEETING, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO PIECEMEAL SOMETHING TOGETHER TODAY THAT'S ALREADY IN HERE. I WOULD JUST MOVE THAT WE PUT THIS ON THE APRIL 13 AGENDA, VOTE UP OR DOWN, GET EVERYBODY THE DRAFT AGENDA, LOOK AT HARD AND FAST.

BECAUSE WE ARE COMING, WE'RE GOING TO DO BUT WE WON'T PIECEMEAL OF SOMETHING TODAY WE WILL GET YOU AN ORDINANCE ONE WHERE THE OTHER ON 13 APRIL. I WOULD MOTION.

>> DISCUSSION WITH THAT, I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT WE DO NEED TO SET A DATE SPECIFIC, SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS. I BELIEVE THAT MOST DOCUMENT IS MADE PUBLIC, THERE WILL BE A CHANCE FOR EVAN TO BE ABLE TO SCRUTINIZE IT, THE LAYPERSON DIRECTLY INVOLVED, AND THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL, WE ARE GETTING OUR GROUP THAT'S BEEN INTERESTED AND DEDICATED TO BE

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HERE TIME AFTER TIME, THOSE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE IMPACTED LIKE BINGO HALLS AND OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE, MAY LIVE CLOSE TO AN AREA WHERE THERE'S ALREADY ILLEGAL GAME ROOM, MAY BE PLACED TO BECOME ONE DAY. WHAT HAVE YOU.MY CONCERN IS, HOW DO WE SCREEN THIS? BECAUSE TO BE HONEST, I THINK WE MIGHT GET A VERY BIG RESPONSE WHICH IS FINE. THAT'S GOVERNMENT IN ACTION. BUT I MUST TO THE POINT WHERE WE'LL GET AN ENTIRE DAY PERHAPS, MAYBE I'M OVERLY OPTIMISTIC ON THAT.

THAT TYPE OF INPUT. WE WILL DEFINITELY BE GETTING A LOT MORE PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS AND IN THE PAST. IS THERE ANY WAY TO FURTHER SCRUTINIZE THIS BEFORE WE GET IT TO A COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING OR DOES THE COURT FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE GET 50 OR 100 PEOPLE HERE IN THE NEXT, THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH AND WE WILL GO THROUGH.

I DON'T MIND DOING THE WORK, I'M NOT SAYING THAT. MY CONCERN IS HOW EFFECTIVE CAN WE DO THAT? YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 100 PEOPLE HERE WILL HAVE PROBABLY 100 VARIATIONS. EVERYONE MAY NOT AGREE TOTALLY AND SO WE WILL GO TO THAT AND IT'S FINE. BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT ALL IN REAL TIME AND MAKE A DECISION. THERE MAY BE SOME POINTS THAT ARE VALID THAT WE DON'T GET IN SOME WHAT IF SCENARIOS THAT WERE NEVER CONSIDERED THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO US.

WE CAN WORK ON THE FLY, WE DO A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE DO MOTIONS BUT THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT ITEM AND I AGREE WITH THE JUDGE. THERE WILL BE TIMES WHERE THERE WILL BE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WILL NEED TO BE MADE. BUT IS THERE A BETTER WAY TO GO ABOUT THIS, THROUGH A RECOMMENDATION OR ON THE LEGAL SIDE, HOW TO GO ABOUT THIS? DO WE JUST PLACE IT IS A SIMPLE AGENDA ITEM? BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY EASY TO READ THROUGH. VERY SPECIFIC, TRYING TO WRITE DOWN THINGS THAT WE WERE GIVEN EARLY ON SUGGESTIONS WITH THE HOURS AND MACHINES AND ALL THAT.

THAT'S ALL LISTED HERE. WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DEDICATE ENOUGH TIME TO REALLY.

THE AGENDAS HAVE BEEN SO FULL AND VIVID SUMMATIVE ADDITIONAL ITEMS WITH DRAINAGE AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE HUGE AS WELL, THAT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO FOCUS SOLELY ON THIS.

I'M JUST OPEN TO HEAR, I HATE THROWING AT THE PROBLEM AND NOT HAVING ANSWER BUT I'M REALLY PERPLEXED ON HOW TO HANDLE THIS BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY WE HAVE TO GIVE THE DIRECTION TO LAW ENFORCEMENT SO THEY KNOW, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND EVERYONE ELSE INVOLVED, BUSINESS OWNERS AND SUCH. SO THAT WE KNOW FROM THAT POINT FORWARD WHATEVER GOES INTO EFFECT, THESE ARE THE RULES. YOU KNOW IT TOOK FOUR HOURS MAYBE TO GET THROUGH OR MORE. I ANTICIPATE A LOT OF INPUT, I REALLY DO.

LIKE I SAID, MAYBE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN BUT THIS IS, REALLY THE ONE AND ONLY CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT. THERE ARE BEACH WEEKS WE CAN MAKE BUT THIS IS THE FIRST DIVE IN AND ONCE WE GET INTO IT, IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE THAT PROBABLY FOR SOME TIME.

EVEN IF IT TAKES SEVERAL MONTHS TO MAYBE FIGURE OUT, THIS IS NOT WORKING OR THAT'S NOT WORKING, IT WILL STILL TAKE US SOME TIME TO ABSORB ALL THAT SO THAT'S JUST MY CONCERN, HOW WE HANDLE MOVING FORWARD. I DO AGREE WE NEED TO SET A DATE, EVEN THOUGH WE WERE JUST GIVEN IT, IT'S PRETTY EASY TO FOLLOW EACH SECTION, THERE'S A LOT OF COUNTIES THAT ARE DONE WORK SO THAT'S HELPFUL BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE ENOUGH TIME AND ATTENTION BECAUSE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. I LIKE THE IDEA OF DOING THIS BY LOCATION, GEOGRAPHY, PRECINCT. THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IF IS NOT IN HERE WE NEED TO SPEND TIME MAY BE TALKING ABOUT THAT. THUS ANOTHER ITEM THAT WE COULD CHEW ON FOR SEVERAL HOURS IF WE GET TO THAT POINT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE AS A COURT DO THE HOMEWORK WE CAN BEFORE HAND AND THE COMMUNITY CONTACT US TO LET US KNOW THEIR SUGGESTIONS.

JUST THAT WE CAN TRY TO PUT AS MUCH A VISIT TOGETHER AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE I JUST THINK IT WILL BE A LONG DAY, EVEN IF WE MAKE IT DATE OR TIME SPECIFIC MAYBE AT 5:00 TO BE FOR THOSE WORKING AFTER HOURS TO COME IN AND ANY OTHER BUSINESS WE MAY HAVE, WE DROP EVERYTHING BY THAT POINT AT 5 PM UNTIL WHENEVER JUST KIND OF WE DID WITH REDISTRICTING EFFORTS BACK IN NOVEMBER. I THINK THIS IS ON THAT TYPE OF LEVEL OF IMPORTANCE.

IF WE CAN JUST TRY TO WORK TO THAT WITH ADMINISTRATION, THE JUDGE'S OFFICE AND LEGAL I FEEL CONFIDENT WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING. THAT'S MY GUESS CONCERN.

>> IF YOU LIKE A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THIS. >> A WORKSHOP?

>> I DON'T WANT A WORKSHOP. I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A MEETING BECAUSE WE CAN TAKE

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ACTION ON IT. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE LABELED ANYTHING OTHER.

IF IT'S A SPECIAL MEETING, LET'S DO IT MAYBE LIKE AN EVENING AT 5:00 MAYBE, 5:30 P.M. . I DON'T LIKE THEM EITHER BUT WE DID THAT FOR REDISTRICTING. WE GOT SOME GOOD RESPONSE FROM PEOPLE TO SHOW UP AND IF IT'S ONLY A HANDFUL THEN IT'S AN HANDFUL BUT JUGGLING AROUND AGENDAS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO, I THINK THE UDGE AND THE COURT WE NEED TO BE RESPECTFUL OF PEOPLES TIME.

IF WE SAY THIS IS THE DATE, THERE ARE PEOPLE INTERESTED THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO SHOW UP

AND LEFT THE REALITY. >> MAYBE 3 O'CLOCK? >> I THINK AFTER BUSINESS, TYPICAL BUSINESS DAY FOR MOST PEOPLE THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO COME OUT.

>> HOW MUCH TIME, I THINK THAT'S FAIR. HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED? THAT'S A GOOD POINT BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS THIS THING TO BE SO NIT PICKED TO THE POINT I THINK EVERYONE SAID SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT IS GOOD.

BUT WE DON'T WANT TO NITPICK IT TO DEATH AND HAVE 100 DIFFERENT PEOPLE CALLING YOU AND YOU HAVE TO CHECK WITH US IN 100 DIFFERENT POINTS. WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION? WE ALL WANT TO GET IT DONE.> WILL HELP COMMISSIONERS, AS I DESCRIBED BEFORE, IF WE COULD POST THIS AND IF, I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE POST IS AGREEABLE FIRST TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT. I KNOW THE ASSISTANT CHIEF GREENE HAS GREENLIGHTED WHAT WE HAVE. I NEED TO MAKE SURE THE SHERIFF HAS GREENLIGHTED WHAT WE HAVE.

AND THEN IF, UNDER THESE ARE PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE. IF THEY CAN SUBMIT ITEMS TO US BEFORE HENRY CAN PRESENTED TO THE COURT AS THIS IS LEGAL, THIS IS NOT.

YOU KNOW, THESE ARE OPTIONS AVAILABLE. >> I AM CONFUSED.

YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE THE ADVICE AND COUNSEL ON WHETHER SOMETHING IS LEGAL NOT LAW

ENFORCEMENT, CORRECT? >> ABSOLUTELY. HOWEVER, WE WERE TASKED WITH WORKING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS SOMETHING THEY COULD WORK WITH.

>> SO I'M GOING TO ASK CHIEF COOK, NOT TO PUT HIM ON THE HOT SEAT HUBRIS SPOKE WITH SHERRY COOPER YESTERDAY.E REITERATED EXACTLY WHAT HE TOLD THIS COURT AND THAT IS, HE DOES NOT HAVE N OPINION UPON THESE POLICIES. HE SAYS WE ARE THE POLICYMAKERS, IT IS HIS DUTY ENFORCE THAT WHICH CH WE BRING. I'M AFRAID IF WE ARE ON A DISCONNECT THERE, WE NEED TO RECTIFY THAT. HE REAFFIRMED THAT TO ME YESTERDAY BECAUSE OF COURSE I INVITED HIM HERE TODAY. AND HE WANTS, DOES NOT WANT TO BE A POLICYMAKER, AND SO IT IS FINE TO GIVE HIM A COPY OF IT SO HE HAS AN AWARENESS BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR INPUT, HE'S ALREADY TOLD THE COURT HE DOES NOT WANT TO GIVE INPUT, MY THOUGHT IN CONCURRING WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER -- HAS JUST SAID IS THAT IT'S THE VERY REASON I PUT THIS AGENDA ITEM ON. IT IS NOT A FORESEEABLE -- I WOULD SAY THIS WAY, IT'S NOT A STRONG EXPECTATION OF, YOU GOING TO ACHIEVE A GAME ROOM REGULATION POLICY IF YOU DON'T GIVE SOME DIRECTION AS TO THE GUTS OF IT. THERE'S SO MUCH OF IT THAT IS WHAT I CALL ADMINISTRATIVE, THAT YOU CAN NITPICK BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO MOST LIKELY CHANGE, SOMETHING WE COULD TAKE UP DURING AN AGENDA BUT FOR EXAMPLE WHETHER OR NOT WE THINK AN APPLICATION BE NONREFUNDABLE $1000, WELL TO BE ABLE TO SAY, LET'S TAKE ACTION ON THAT, GIVEN THE DIRECTIONS THEY CAN WRITE THAT IN. IN OTHER PRINCIPAL FACTORS HOW MANY MAXIMUM SITES THERE ARE. THIS COURT SHOULD TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, WHETHER OR NOT WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS THE STATUS QUO. AND WE DON'T WANT ANYMORE. OR THEY CAN SAY, WHY DON'T WE

DO A REDUCTION OF 24 PERCENT, GO TO 100 TO 75. >> THE JUDGE, WHERE DO WE STOP?

>> HE STOPPED THE THREE THAT I POSTED. YOU ONLY STOP, YOU ONLY DO THE

THREE I POSTED. >> BUT AGAIN, NOBODY GIVE US ANYTHING TO LOOK AT EXCEPT

UNTIL RIGHTS RIGHT THIS MINUTE. >> THUS DISINGENUOUS. WE'VE HAD MONTHS AND MONTHS TO

REVIEW ALL EGULATIONS THAT ARE ALSO MILAR. >> BUT LESS ABOUT THE WHOLE

THING, WHY PIECEMEAL IT? >> I AGREE. I AGREE WITH YOU COMMISSIONER.

IT'S ABOUT GIVING DIRECTION ABOUT GIVING DIRECTION -- >> MORE EFFORT FROM THE PUBLIC

BEFORE I GIVE -- >> MORE INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC? THEY BEEN CHATTING OUT YOU FOR

ABOUT SIX MONTHS NOW. >> THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO GET ON THE AGENDA SO WE CAN VOTE

INSTEAD OF SITTING HERE ARGUING ABOUT STUFF -- >> IS NOT THREE LITTLE ITEMS.

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AS TO GIVE DIRECTION. ANYWAY, I'M MAKING A MOTION OF GEOGRAPHICAL RESTRICTIONS

INCLUDED. >> THERE IS A MOTION ALREADY ON THE FLOOR THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SECONDED TO PUT ON FOR THE 13TH. SO I'D LIKE TO DO THAT ONE

FIRST. >> I HEAR YOU. THAT'S FINE I DON'T HAVE A

PROBLEM WITH THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR -- >> ADD MORE DISCUSSION.

>> YOU HAVE THE MOTION. >> WHAT I'D LIKE DISCUSSION. >> THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. CHRIS COMMISSIONER MAREZ MADE A GOOD POINT I MIGHT WANT TO

AMEND MY MOTION.>> PLEASE GO AHEAD. >> HE TALKED ABOUT A SPECIAL MEETING. I'M WILLING TO DO IN THE VEIN SUGGESTED IF THERE'S A DATE WE CONSIDER NOW AND VOTE FOR THE WHOLE THING ON A SPECIAL MEETING AT THE SPECIAL TIME.

DOESN'T HAVE A SUGGESTION ON DATES? >> I WOULD SUGGEST WE LOOK AT OUR CALENDAR AND SOMETIME THIS AFTERNOON BEFORE WE CONCLUDE, BUT WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT RIGHT THIS SECOND. BUT WE CAN DO THAT BEFORE THE MEETING IS OUT TONIGHT TO COME

UP WITH A DATE THAT IS ACCEPTABLE. >> THEN LET'S MAKE THE MOTION THAT WAY. THE MOTION THAT WE SET THIS FOR A SPECIAL MEETING AT A TIME CERTAIN AND WILL LOOK AT CALENDARS TODAY AND COME UP WITH THE TIMES OR BEFORE THE END OF THE MEETING. SO THAT THE PUBLIC WILL KNOW WHAT WE WILL DO AND WILL GIVE EVERYBODY TIME FRAME ON WHEN ALL THE INPUT NEEDS TO BE DONE. I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION AND WE

WILL -- >> WOULD YOU CONSIDER, GIVEN THAT IT WAS YOUR OWN CONCEPT, TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THERE WAS A TIME CERTAIN SO THAT NOT TO EXCEED APRIL 30.

BECAUSE WE TRY TO GET EVERYBODY'S -- >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> I THINK YOU NEED TO INCLUDE THAT BECAUSE -- GO AHEAD I WILL LET YOU.

>> ABSOLUTELY I'M AGREEING. HE MOTION THAT WOULD BE BEFORE THE MEETING ENDING TODAY

-- >> JUST MAYBE MAKE A MOTION ON THE ITEM, SORRY JUDGE.

TO COME BACK HOW ABOUT JUST HOLD OFF -- >> NO, I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS. THEY SAT HERE ALL DAY. I APPRECIATE THAT BUT I WILL MAKE A MOTION BY THE END OF THIS MEETING EVERYONE ON THE COURT LOOKS AT THEIR CALENDAR, FIND A DATE THAT WE CAN ALL AGREE ON. PRIOR TO APRIL 30 OF 2022 AND IT BE ESTABLISHED BEFORE THE END OF THIS MEETING TODAY AND IT BE ANNOUNCED AT THE END OF

THIS MEETING TODAY IF NOT BEFORE. THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.>> IN

ADDITION TO THE SECOND MEETING IN APRIL? >> WRITE A SPECIAL MEETING AT 5:00 IS WHAT JOHN SUGGESTED AT A TIME CERTAIN BEFORE APRIL 30, 2022 ANNOUNCED BY THE END OF

THIS MEETING TODAY. >> THERE IS A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? I WILL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.ON MY MOTION, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, THIS IS FOR THE CLERK. TO CONSIDER THE CONDITION THAT MAXIMUM SITES BE NO MORE THAN, IT COULD BE THAT SHE DEVISES A POLICY AFTER TALKING TO THE WORKING GROUP, THAT WOULD BE LESS THAN, BUT THAT WOULD BE NO MORE THAN 100 SITES, WHICH IS WHAT THE ESTIMATED, I GOT THAT FROM CHIEF -- OUT ENOUGH THERE'S A SCIENTIFIC YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GUESSTIMATE THAT WE ARE ALL SORT OF OPERATING UNDER THAT THERE BE NO MORE THAN WHAT EXISTS TODAY, THAT'S A CONDITION THAT WILL BE REFINED AT THE SPECIAL MEETING.

BUT I DO NOT WANT TO SEE ANYMORE THAN WHAT EXISTS TODAY. IN FACT, IT MIGHT BE THE WILL OF THE COURT TO GO IN A REDUCTION BUT NO MORE THAN EXIST TODAY.

AND THAT IS MY MOTION. AND AGAIN, I'M TAKING AN INDIVIDUAL TO MAKE CERTAIN.

>> HOW MANY EXIST? >> ANYBODY KNOW? DO WE KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS? > 100 WAS THE NUMBER I WAS GIVEN. BUT THAT IS UNSCIENTIFIC

REPORT. >> OKAY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE. WE'RE GOING TO PASS POTENTIALLY AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD MAKE THESE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW AND, WHAT I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THESE PEOPLE IS IF THEY ARE LEGAL AND LAW ABIDING, THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM.

IT'S WHEN THEIR ILLEGAL AND DON'T ABIDE BY THE LAW I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO LIMIT LEGAL LAW ABIDING THINGS. I'M A LITTLE COMFORTABLE DOING THIS PIECEMEAL TODAY BECAUSE --

>> IS SAID MOTION, YOU GET TO VOTE. BUT THIS 100 WAS A REPUTABLE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENT THAT TOLD ME THAT. IF I AM WAY OFF --

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>> THAT'S AN ESTIMATE. BECAUSE THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT TO REGISTER AS A GAME ROOM.

>> CORRECT. WE WILL PUT A LIMIT. >> GOT AN ESTIMATE.

>> THAT MEANS THERE WILL BE NO MORE THAN 100 PERMITS GIVEN IF WE PUT THE MAXIMUM.

THAT'S HOW I SEE IT. IT IS A CEILING AND, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE LEASE GIVE SOME DIRECTION. AGAIN, THE EXACT NUMBER, YOU WILL GET IN THE NEXT SPECIAL MEETING. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE LEAVE HERE WITH SOME SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY THAT, THAT IS WHAT WE BELIEVE THERE WILL BE NO MORE THAN.

>> AND MAKING SURE, YOU WANT TO LIMIT -- >> MAXIMUM SITES.

>> YOU WANT TO LIMIT MAXIMUM SIZE TO LEGALLY OPERATING BUSINESSES.

YOU WANT TO LIMIT THEM. >> MAXIMUM SIZE PERMITTED. THERE ARE THREE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT. IT WILL BE LAW ENFORCEMENT, THE DA AND EVENTUALLY, A JURY THAT FIGURES OUT WHETHER IT IS LEGAL OR ILLEGAL. THIS IS MAXIMUM SITES, KEEP IT SIMPLE. CHIEF MARKEL IS LOOKING FOR SIMPLICITY.

SO THEY CAN DO THEIR JOB AND I'M SURE THAT CHIEF COOK, YOU PROBABLY AGREE WITH THAT.

SIMPLICITY IS GOING TO WORK HERE, DO NOT COMPLICATE IT WITHOUT INTERPRETATION OF THE LAW, MAXIMUM SITES. WE ARE LOOKING FOR MAXIMUM SITES, IF THAT NUMBER IS ESTIMATED AT 100, THAT THERE BE NO MORE THAN 100, RECOMMENDATION IN TWO WEEKS IS 80, THEN WE WILL GET A CHANCE TO VOTE ON THAT UP OR DOWN. UT MY MOTION IS TO GIVE YOU SOME GENERAL DIRECTION. THAT'S WHAT HAS BEEN NOTICED AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE HERE FOR. I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE GET SOMEWHERE, SAME GOES TRUE TO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS BUT AT LEAST KNOW THAT WE ARE SIGNALING TO THE WHOLE WORLD THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LIMIT ON PERMITTING. THAT'S THE MOTION.

AND IT'S UP TO -- IT'S UP TO YOU ALL TO WANT TO GIVE THAT DIRECTION OR NOT.

BUT I WILL LOOK FOR A SECOND AND AGAIN MAXIMUM SITES TO BE NO MORE THAN 100 IN THIS POLICY

TO BE DRAFTED. >> I WILL SECOND THAT. AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM SETTING A LIMIT FOR NOW, I THINK THIS IS FLUID AND IT GIVES US DIRECTION TODAY.

AND IT LEADS US TO THAT SPECIAL MEETING THAT WE WILL HAVE. I HAVE NO PROBLEM SETTING A LIMIT, WE WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION, I THINK THAT WILL HELP US SOLVE A LOT OF OUR DISCUSSIONS ON THIS AS WE REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE COMMUNITY REACHES BACK OUT TO

US. I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. >> OKAY THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR -- JUDGE, DISCUSSION. >> I'M SORRY.

>> GO AHEAD. >> I SPOKE TO THE FIRE MARSHAL IN BELL COUNTY.

ABOUT A MONTH AND HALF OR TWO MONTHS AGO AND THEY'VE HAD THERE SINCE AUGUST I BELIEVE AND THEY ONLY WANT TO TALK TO THEM AT TIME ONLY HAD 10 OR 11 PERMITS.

I THINK THAT BY PERMITTING, YOU'RE GOING TO REGULATE IT AND THOSE ARE GOING TO DO IT THE CORRECT WAY ARE GOING TO GET PERMITS AND IF THEY ARE OPERATING ILLEGALLY OR NOT.

I THINK THE DISCUSSION I UNDERSTAND BUT I THINK THE PERMITTING WILL TAKE CARE OF

THE NUMBER. >> THAT'S THE HOPE. >> THAT'S THE HOPE.

BUT I'M SAYING IS AN EXAMPLE BELL COUNTY WHEN WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION HE SAID THAT THEY HAD ONLY HAD 10 OR 11 COME FORWARD TO ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND ACTUALLY GET

THE PERMIT. >> VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. >> DO WE KNOW HOW MANY MACHINES

WOULD BE PERMITTED IN ONE BUILDING? >> THAT I THINK IS WHAT IS -- THERE ARE VARIOUS SIZES THAT EXIST IN THE COUNTY. I BELIEVE THAT THE JUDGE IS

ASKING TO PROVIDE THAT GUIDANCE AS TO WHAT THE LIMIT SHOULD BE. >> BECAUSE I HEAR ADVERTISEMENT ON THE RADIO FOR THE CASINO AND THEY SAID THEY HAVE OVER 100 MACHINES.

>> I BELIEVE A LOT OF THEM HAVE WELL OVER 100 MACHINES. THAT'S CORRECT.

>> I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE. GOING ON A FEELING, WE USUALLY GO ON LITTLE MORE THAN I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO BECAUSE WE HAVE IT, I'M READY TO PASS AN ORDINANCE AND WHATEVER COMES FORWARD IF THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE. BUT AT THIS POINT I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE DOING A PIECEMEAL ORDINANCE SO I WILL NOT VOTE TODAY ON THIS.

NOT BECAUSE I MAY OR MAY NOT VOTE FOR IT LATER BUT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT TO VOTE ON PIECEMEAL ORDINANCES. WILL VOTE ON THIS IN TWO WEEKS OR THREE WEEKS AND GET THE WHOLE THING DONE. THIS COULD CHANGE, THIS IS GUIDANCE, GUIDANCE CAN CHANGE

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IN THREE WEEKS WHEN WE GET PUBLIC INPUT AND I AGREE WITH THE LADY IN THE BACK THE PERMITTING PROCESS WILL TAKE CARE OF THIS. I DON'T THINK WE WILL HAVE A.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE HAVING AN ARGUMENT, LET'S JUST GET TO THE ORDINANCE.

>> NOT TO SPEAK FOR THE JUDGE BUT THE WAY YOU TAKE IT IS THAT'S WHY WE ARE TRYING TO SET A THRESHOLD. LET'S ALL, THESE ARE THE THRESHOLDS AND THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS WE WILL COME AND GET PLENTY OF INPUT AND NO MATTER WHAT WE DECIDE THERE WILL STILL BE BLUEBIRDS, MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK SO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM THAT WILL BE CRITICAL THAT WE ADDED TO MANY WERE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH, THE HOURS ARE MESSED UP, LOCATIONS ARE. SO, I AGREE WITH NOT WANTING TO PIECEMEAL BUT IF WE CAN KIND OF SET MAY BE SOME STANDARDS THAT MAYBE HELPS BUT MAYBE WE CAN DO THAT.

WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS GETS OUT TO THE PUBLIC AS SOON AS POSSIBLE ENSURE THE COMMUNITY THE PAST FOR FIVE HOURS WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO START REVIEWING IT.

WHATEVER GETS US TO THAT POINT, LET'S GO AHEAD. >> OKAY ALL THOSE -- YES MA'AM?

>> COMMISSIONER, I AGREE WITH YOU. BUT IF WE SET A LIMIT ON THE MACHINES TODAY, THEN LET'S CHANGE UP AT LEAST TODAY, IT WILL TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THIS PROBLEM. IF YOU SAY 50 TODAY AND NEXT WEEK YOU SAY 100, THAT'S FINE.

BUT LET'S STOP IT NOW, LET'S CUT THEM DOWN NOW. AND THEN THEY WILL SHOW UP WITH

THEIR PROBLEMS. >> I AGREE! CHRIST DON'T GIVE THEM 100.

[LAUGHTER] >> I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING LET'S DO IT LOWER, I GET YOU.

>> HERS WAS ON PERMITS. >> I GET YOU. >> SHE'S TALKING PERMITS, NOT

MACHINES. >> THAT'S CORRECT. GO AHEAD AND TAKE THIS.

ONLY BECAUSE IT RECORDS BETTER. >> I'M SORRY. IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE ORDINANCES, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, ALL OF THEM SAY SUGGEST ONLY 50 MACHINES.

SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME. >> ON THE ORDINANCES, PRESENTED, AS AS AN EXAMPLE,

THEY SAY NO MORE THAN 50 MACHINES PER LOCATION. >> RIGHT, THAT'S CORRECT.

WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IS PERMITS, THE ACTUAL SITES, RIGHT? NOT THE MACHINES INSIDE. BUT I HEAR YOU ON WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, THAT IS ALSO MY READING

OF IT. YES MA'AM? >> I'M LOOKING AT IF YOU'RE

LOOKING AT THE COUNTY. >> THE COUNTY MA'AM. >> THE WHOLE COUNTY.

>> YES. >> 100 WITH THE THRESHOLD. YOU REALLY HAD A THRESHOLD OF

100 AND NO MORE THAN.> THAT'S RIGHT. >> OKAY NO MORE THAN.

AND THEN THE PERMITS WILL HANDLE THIS. DO THE HUNDRED.

THAT'S YOUR STARTING POINT OF NO MORE THAN. THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

>> DEMOCRACY IS A GREAT THING HAVE TO BE ABLE TO JUST TRY. WE WILL MOVE FORWARD HERE ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. MOTION TO REMIND NO MORE THAN 100 SITES COUNTYWIDE WOULD BE THE DIRECTIVE TO BE INCLUDED IN THE GAME ROOM, WE WILL HAVE A FINAL SAY SO NEXT TIME BUT THIS IS A DIRECTIVE, SIGNAL TO THE WHOLE POPULATION, WE ARE NOT PUTTING MORE THAT ALREADY EXIST IN THE COMMUNITY. IT'S A SIGNAL, PERCEPTION, WHICH IS REALITY.

AND I VOTE AYE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OKAY I'VE GOT TWO NAY, THREE.

ONE ABSTAIN, IT'S A PUSH. WE WILL MOVE FORWARD. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU, PUSH MEANS NOTHING HAPPENS. NOT TO USE A GAMBLING TERM.

[LAUGHTER] OKAY SO, AT ANY RATE, YOU HAVE AMERICA AT ITS BEST.

WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS. WE ARE GOING BACK INTO REGULAR AGENDA.

TRYING TO TAKE THINGS IN ORDER EXCEPT FOR THAT PART OF MY JOB IS TO KIND OF GAUGE HOW, WHO IS IN THE AUDIENCE, WHO IS HERE WAITING, WHO NEEDS TO BE IN OTHER AREAS NOT ALWAYS TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THE JUDICIARY, ELECTIVES, WE DID THAT THIS MORNING.

POLITICAL JURISDICTIONS.E'VE DONE ALL OF THAT AND SO, WE CAN KIND OF GO BACK INTO REGULAR ORDER, EXCEPT FOR THAT YES TO THE CARLYLE GROUP DID ASK US IF THEY COULD BE AT 10 O'CLOCK IN

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THE MORNING AND I SAID SURE! SO HERE IS MY 10 AM. THIS IS -- WE AIM TO PLEASE.

SO I AM GOING TO ADVANCE THE CARLYLE -- IT IS UNDER -- LET ME GIVE IT ONE SECOND AHEAD WITH A STAR. FIVE? ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

[5. Discuss and consider selection of Acrisure, LLC d/b/a Carlisle Insurance as the sole broker service under section 262.036 of the Texas Local Government Code and related matters; authorize a professional services agreement.]

I'M SORRY FOUR YEAH, FIVE UNDER 3A5, AGAIN I'M PUTTING THIS NEXT IF YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM A TAX ANOTHER THERE HERE WITH US AS WELL. BUT I'M GOING TO ASK TIMOTHY TO HELP US TEE THIS UP FORTHE RISK MANAGEMENT . TIMOTHY FROM RISK MANAGEMENT.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. BEFORE THE COURT TODAY TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER SELECTION OF ACRISURE, LLC, DBA CARLYLE INSURANCE AS THE SOLE BROKER SERVICE UNDER SECTION 262.036 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND RELATED MATTERS AUTHORIZE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT. IN A TEAM AS WE HAVE TWO RENEWAL CYCLES. IN THE 22 Ã23 RENEWAL CYCLE RIGHT NOW IT BEGAN IN FEBRUARY, IT IS A LONG ARDUOUS PROCESS WE LOOKING FOR THE COURT AUTHORIZATION TO CONTINUE WITH

THE AGREEMENT AND THEREFORE WE CAN GET THE COUNTY INSURED. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> MOTION. >> MOTION AND SECOND. >> SECOND PAIR.> ALL IN

FAVOR? GO GET US INSURED, SIR! >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

>> THANK YOU. TOMMY, MAY I JUST -- IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND JUST ANSWER ONE QUICK QUESTION. WE'LL TALK ABOUT MARCUS BEING SOFT AND HARD WITH REGARDS TO YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ARE AND SOMETIMES IT IS NOT AS INTUITIVE AS ONE WOULD THINK.

FOR EXAMPLE AFTER HURRICANE HARVEY, THE MARKET WENT SOFT EVEN THOUGH WE HAD JUST COME TO A HURRICANE BECAUSE IT TOOK US SO LONG TO GET THE HARDENING OF THE MARKET.

HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE IT IN A COUPLE OF WORDS, SO I CAN PREPARE MYSELF MENTALLY?> I WILL TELL YOU. THIS YEAR IS PROBABLY THE TOUGHEST PROPERTY MARKET AS IN YEARS. WE ARE WORKING HARD AND MANY COMPANIES ARE TAKING LESS RISK BECAUSE IT ISN'T BECAUSE OF HURRICANES, IT IS WORLDWIDE CATASTROPHES.

IT'S FIRES. WE EVEN SHARE WITH YOU THE STATISTICS OF THE INSURANCE COMPANY. I THINK IT WAS, 120 BILLION, -- WAS HAPPEN IS PEOPLE ARE TAKING LESS AND HAVE LESS PARTICIPANTS. OTHER PEOPLE COME IN AND SAY WE WILL PLAY BUT IT WILL BE A BETTER PRICE SO IT'S A LOT MORE WORK AND IS THE HARDEST MARKET.

I'VE BEEN DOING THIS 45 YEARS AND THE HARDEST TO PUT TOGETHER.

AND SO WE ARE WORKING HARD TO FORGET. I READ AN ARTICLE RECENTLY IN THE ECONOMIST ABOUT THIS. I JUST WANTED TO HAVE MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE WERE ALL PREPPING OURSELVES BECAUSE IT IS NOT US PER SE, IT'S THE GLOBAL.

>> MAKES INSURANCE BROKERS FIGURE A BETTER WAY. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE SPENDING OUR TIME. I CAN ASSURE YOU WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD.

[3. Receive presentation from Texas Association of School Boards (TASB) Energy Cooperative regarding electricity program.]

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> WILL BE MOVED BACK TO THE WAY THE AGENDA SHOWCASES WHICH IS PRESENTATION ITEM NUMBER THREE FROM TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL BOARDS. THE ENERGY CORPORATIVE REGARDING ELECTRICITY PROGRAM.

ITEM NUMBER THREE. THIS IS A PRESENTATION. >> IT'S ACTUALLY, HELLO?>

YES. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME ALL RIGHT? >> YES.

THERE YOU GO. >> I'M SUPPOSED TO START WITH GOOD MORNING BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE. I REPRESENT, MY NAME IS JAVIER GONZALEZ I WORK WITH TASB ON SUMI OF JENNIFER THAT REPRESENTS DIRECT ENERGY. WE ARE HERE JUST TO ASK, WE WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE TERMS THIS VALUE. WHAT WE DO WE PROVIDE SERVICES TO GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY WE HAVE BEEN A NONPROFIT SINCE 1949 AS YOU HEARD EARLIER, WE PROVIDE SERVICES TO SCHOOLS, WE DO NOT PROVIDE TO -- THE SUPERINTENDENT IF YEARS AGO SIMPLY BECAUSE -- TOOK OFF AND THEY NEEDED SOMEONE FOR A FEW MONTHS.

THAT BEING SAID, HE HAD A PRESENTATION THERE AND I CAN COVER BUT WOULD LIKE TO ASK OF

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Y'ALL THAT, WE LIKE TO HAVE A LETTER OF AUTHORITY SO THAT WE CAN GO OUT AND GET INFORMATION FROM THE CURRENT PROVIDER AND PUT TOGETHER INFORMATION WITH REGARD TO YOUR MOST RECENT BILLS AND GIVE YOU A QUOTE THAT NO OBLIGATION TO THE COUNTY THAT WE WOULD GIVE YOU ALL A CORPORATE THIS TO BE THE BEST VALUE FOR YOU ALL CURRENTLY OR WITH P3 THERE IS NOTHING AGAINST THEM BUT WHAT I'M SAYING, WE CAN DO THE SAME TYPE OF WORK, AND THE SURROUNDING AREA WE HAVE GP, WE HAVE DIFFERENT ENTITIES AND FOR US TO GIVE US A QUOTE IS NOT AN OBLIGATION ON THE COUNTY BUT WE NEED THE INFORMATION. ALL INFORMATION IS OPEN RECORD SO AUTHORIZATION THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS BILLS WILL COME BACK TO YOU AND GIVE YOU 1/4 THAT YOU DESIRE THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR. TERMS OF THE PRODUCTS WE OFFER, OUR ELECTRICITY, WE WERE IN A SITUATION ALSO WHERE YOU'D METERS DELETE METERS IS NO CHARGE FOR THAT. THIS PAST YEAR SOME ENTITIES CHARGED, WE PASSED THREE CHARGES. ALL WE WANT TO DO IS TO BE ABLE TO DEFINE WHAT YOU GOT THE VALUE WHETHER IT'S P3 OR DIRECT ENERGY, WE NEED THAT INFORMATION.

IF YOU DIRECT STAFF TO GIVE US INFORMATION THAT WE NEED, SIGN-UP FORM AND GIVE US A COUPLE OF MONTHS BILLS AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE. AND JUST LET THEM KNOW WHEN IS THE RENEWAL. WE CAN GIVE YOU A PRICE AT THE SAME TIME.

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> QUESTIONS? >> THIS IS NO OBLIGATION?

>> AS A MATTER FACT, I USE THE TERM BEST VALUE, WHATEVER DIRECTION YOU CHOOSE TO GO, YOU KNOW THAT YOUR SOMETHING THAT'S THE BEST VALUE FOR NUECES COUNTY.

YOU HAVE TO ADD OR DELETE METERS ALL INFORMATION BUT THE FACT IS, NO OBLIGATION ON YOUR PART WHEN YOU SIGN A CONTRACT AND IF YOU SIGN IT'S GREAT, BUT IF NOT WE MAKE A BETTER CHOICE.

>> TODAY IT SAYS RECEIVE PRESENTATION ONLY. I AM NOT SURE REALLY HOW TO PROCEED HERE. OTHER THAN I MEAN, I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO HAVE INFORMATION SENT TO US, NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT COURT MANAGER CORRECT THAT WITH THE COURT MANAGER.

AND THEN SHE COULD DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S IN OUR BEST INTEREST, SEND IT OUR WAY.

THE WAY IT WAS NOTICE WAS JUST PRESENTATION ONLY. A LITTLE GUIDANCE, I HAVE A FEW

QUESTIONS BUT GO AHEAD JENNY. >> AND THEN YOU HAVE ITEM RELEVANT TO ANY DECISION YOU

MIGHT MAKE ON THIS ITEM. >> RIGHT. >> AND WE ARE ASKING -- WERE NOT ASKED FOR ANYTHING -- WE WILL PROVIDE YOU, THAT'S ALL WE WANT TO DO IS GET THE INFORMATION SO WE CAN PROVIDE YOU A QUOTE OF THE DAY THAT YOU DETERMINE IS APPROPRIATE BUT WE HAVE THE INFORMATION WE CANNOT PROVIDE YOU THE QUOTE. WHEN WE PROVIDE A QUOTE YOU CAN COMPARE TO WHAT YOU HAVE FROM P3 AND MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY YOU WANT TO GO.

IT'S YOUR CALL. >> CAN INTERJECT AS WELL? THIS IS JENNIFER.

>> SURE, HI JENNIFER, GO AHEAD. >> HI, NICE TO MEET YOU GUYS! JUST TO ADD A LITTLE BIT, WE DID PRESENT THE LETTER OF AUTHORIZATION IN THE DOCUMENT BUT WE WERE TOLD THAT AFTER THIS, YOU WOULD DECIDE IF YOU WOULD AGREE SO YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT FORM.

I'M NOT SURE WHY IT DIDN'T ACTUALLY MAKE IT INTO THE AGENDA.

BUT WE WERE JUST TOLD THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE SENT UNTIL AFTER HE GAVE THE PRESENTATION.

BUT AS JAVIER DID MENTION, IT IS PURELY JUST A FORM THAT ALLOWS US TO PULL THEIR REVIEW FROM THE UTILITY JUST GIVES US YOUR REAL DATA POINTS WE CAN ACCURATELY GIVE YOU A PRICE.

>> OKAY. >> I THINK YOU SAID YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY MORE ABOUT THE PROGRAM OR WHATEVER ELSE YOU MIGHT BE WONDERING ABOUT

THE MARKET IN GENERAL. >> HOW FAR DO YOU GUYS GO OUT WHEN YOU DO YOUR PROPOSALS?

A THREE, FIVE, SEVEN, 10? >> 10, 12 YEARS. >> THAT IS ONE OF THE KEY DIFFERENCES HONESTLY IN OUR TWO PROGRAMS. YOU'RE PROBABLY VERY FAMILIAR, BUT THE ENERGY PROGRAM, WE DO NOT HAVE A LIMIT. YOU GUYS CAN CHOOSE WHAT IS

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BEST FOR YOUR COUNTY. WHETHER IT'S A 12 MONTH DEAL OR A 10 YEAR DEAL.

AND I WOULD SAY BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONS, MORE THAN 80 PERCENT OF CUSTOMERS, MEMBERS LOCKED IN BEYOND 2027 SOME 2031. BUT YOU CAN DO IS BEST FOR YOU

NOT JUST WITH EVERYBODY ELSE DECIDED. >> WE WILL BRING YOU A COURT

THAT HAS ALL OF THE OPTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. >> YES YOU CAN SEE THE VARIOUS PRICES DEPENDING ON THE TERM AND THEN YOU CAN DECIDE, I THINK THIS RATE IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER IF YOU'RE ABLE TO GO OUT AND LOWER THE PRICES IS PRETTY SIMPLE RIGHT NOW. IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY THAT'S WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING TO MOST OF OUR MEMBERS. TO LOCK IN EARLY AND AS LONG AS YOU CAN BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW

HOW LONG THAT SAVINGS WILL BE OUT THERE. >> OKAY AND WHERE IS, P3 IS A NONPROFIT OWNED BY MEMBERS, HOW ARE YOU ALL -- I KNOW IT'S A FOR-PROFIT COMPANY, CORRECT?

>> WE ARE NONPROFIT. THE COUNTY IS APPARENTLY A MEMBER OF ANOTHER ONE OF OUR AREAS AND MICHAEL ROBINSON IS ON BOARD, DECISION-MAKER AND THANK YOU, MICHAEL, FOR DOING

THAT FOR US. >> SO THE ENERGY COOPERATIVE AS YOU MENTIONED IS NOT PROFIT.

HEY ACTUALLY PUT OUT A FEW OR ALL THE DIFFERENT PROVIDERS SUCH AS DIRECT ENERGY, COULD PARTICIPATE AND DIRECT ENERGY IS THE ONE AFTER EXTENSIVE A THING WAS ALMOST A -- LONG PROCESS WE WERE AWARDED THE BUSINESS WE ARE TO MAKE SURE THE BUSINESS STANDARDS AND STRICT GUIDELINES THAT THEY SET OUT. IT CERTAINLY DIFFERENT CONTRACT

ANNUITY IF YOU'RE WORKING WITH DIRECT ENERGY SEPARATELY. >> OKAY, IS JUST SO DIFFERENT JENNIFER. BECAUSE UNDER P3 RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ABOUT TO HAVE THE PRESENTATION. I AM CERTAIN YOU ARE FAMILIAR. WE GET THE BENEFIT OF REALLY SHOPPING IT TO THE WHOLE MARKETPLACE. HERE, THEY'VE ALREADY SHOPPED AND WE WENT WITH TASB THEY WOULD HAVE YOU IS THE ONLY SOURCE FOR THOSE RATES.

WHAT ABOUT THE AGGREGATION FEE? >> WE ACTUALLY, THAT'S ANOTHER DIFFERENCE.

YOU DO NOT HAVE A LINE ITEM THAT HAS A FEE. WE LOOK AT IT BASED ON AS A WHOLE, DIRECT ENERGY AND TASB HAVE A MARKETING PARTNERSHIP THAT THERE IS A CERTAIN COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. BUT IT IS NOT BROKEN OUT BY CUSTOMER, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL LINE FEE, THE PRICE THAT YOU SEE WILL BE YOUR FINAL PRODUCT THERE IS NO ADDED TO THAT.

THAT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AS WELL AS TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE DIFFERENT MARKET RATES, IF IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO SEE TWO DIFFERENT NUMBERS FROM TWO DIFFERENT COMPANIES, YOU CAN STILL DO THAT. YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET ANOTHER QUOTE ALONGSIDE THE DIRECT ENERGY TASB QUOTE. HONESTLY, THE MARKET, THE MARKET IS WHAT THE MARKET IS.

THAT MEMBER NO MATTER WHO WE GET A QUOTE FROM SHOULD BE I WOULD SAY FAIRLY SIMILAR.

THERE ARE VERY COMPETITIVE RATES EVERYONE IN THE MARKET SHOULD HAVE ALMOST IDENTICAL PRICES. IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO YOUR CONTRACT.

THAT'S WHERE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHAT'S IN THOSE DETAILS.

THAT IS REALLY THE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS THE MARKET WOULD BE HARD TO HAVE A LOT IN THERE WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT ANY SURPRISES FOR OUR MEMBERS.

>> MEMBERS, HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW JENNIFER? >> WE HAVE OVER 200 PLUS CITIES, COUNTIES, I THINK THAT'S ALMOST 5500 METERS IF YOU LOOK AT SPECIFICALLY.

>> HOW MANY COUNTIES DO YOU HAVE? >> I DON'T HAVE THE BREAKDOWN OF EXACTLY THE NUMBER OF COUNTIES. I CAN DEFINITELY FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU. BUT I JUST HAVE IT AS A WHOLE FOR ALL THE GOVERNMENT ENTITIES LIKE WE HAVE COLLEGES, UNIVERSITIES, CITIES, COUNTIES, SCHOOLS.

BUT SPECIFICALLY COUNTIES, I CAN FIND OUT. >> OKAY.

QUESTIONS COMMISSIONERS?I WILL TELL YOU WHAT. I THINK WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO DO IS, WHEN WE PASS IN ANY DIRECTION SO HERE THE P3 AND THEN WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK TO

IT. RIGHT? >> PERFECT THANK YOU.

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>> I WILL RESERVE THE RIGHT FOR YOU GUYS TO COME BACK AND ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS IF YOU JUST WOULDN'T MIND STAYING PUT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. I WILL ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT

[4. Receive presentation from David Quinn, Public Power Pool (P3) on electricity contract and procurement; discuss and consider any orders, including renewables, opting-out and related matters. ]

OPTIMIZATION A LITTLE BIT. I KNEW HAD SOMETHING BUT IN JUST A MINUTE.

NOW WE WILL HEAR FROM, JUST GOING TO PASS ON THE ITEM FOR THE MOMENT AND MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR FOR THE CLERK IT'S RECEIVED THE PRESENTATION FROM DAVID QUINN AND HE REPRESENTS PUBLIC POWERPOLE. OTHERWISE KNOWN AS P3. WE DO HAVE A CURRENT ELECTRICITY CONTRACT WITH HIM AND JUST SO THE COMMISSION IS AWARE, BASICALLY A CONSIDERATION TO TAKE SOME ACTION INCLUDING PARTICULARLY ON RENEWABLES OPTIONS TO HAVE RENEWABLES IN THE PORTFOLIO IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THE COURT. S WELL AS OPTING OUT.

THANK YOU GEORGE AND COMMISSIONERS I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT MY NAME IS DAVID QUINN, PROGRAM MANAGER FOR PUBLIC POWERPOLE P3 BY WAY OF BACKGROUND.

A 501(C) FOUR -- 2002 WITH THE EXPRESS INTENTION OF NEGOTIATING LOWER ELECTRICITY RATES BY PURCHASING IN BULK AT THE SAME TIME. AND USING THE SLICE OF THE GROUP TO LEVERAGE BETTER CONTRACTS IN THE MARKETPLACE. AND PROVIDE FULL CONTRACT SERVICE TO OUR MEMBERS. THERE IS AN INSERT INSIDE THE FOLDER ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, CURRENTLY ARE COMBINED MEGAWATT HOURS, WE HAVE $66 MILLION WORTH OF ELECTRICITY WE CURRENTLY PURCHASE A YEAR, ABOUT FIVE AND HALF THOUSAND ACCOUNTS.

AND AS YOU SEE ON PAGE 2 OF THE PRESENTATION FROM OUR MEMBERSHIP LIST, YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE LIST OF MEMBERS RIGHT NOW OVER 100 MEMBERS INCLUDING 50 IN TEXAS COUNTIES SEVERAL NEIGHBORS ARE MEMBERS OF P3. ABOUT 20 CITIES, 25 -- THREE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND A VARIETY OF GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES, APPRAISAL DISTRICTS, COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT AND MEMBERS -- OUR RECORD SINCE THE PROGRAM BEGAN IN 2002 IS A WAY TO SAVE MEMBERS $160.5 MILLION.

ON THE NEXT PAGE, FOR NUECES COUNTY GLACIER SAVINGS ACHIEVED TO DATE IS JUST OVER $3 MILLION. THAT IS COMPARING THE FIXED PRICE OF ELECTRICITY THAT WE'VE NEGOTIATED IN EACH OF OUR EIGHT CONTRACTS AND COMPARING THEM TO THE PRICE FOR ELECTRICITY EVERY DAY SINCE 2002. TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE NET SAVINGS WOULD BE FOR THE GROUP AS A WHOLE. WHEN WE CONDUCT A PROCUREMENT WE SENT AN RFP OUT TO EVERY REGISTERED RETAIL ELECTRIC PROVIDER IN THE STATE. THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS IN 2017 THERE WERE OVER 150, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SEND THIS CONTRACT TO ONE PROVIDER.

WE ARE NOT INDICATING ANY PREFERENCE OR FAVORITISM FOR ONE PROVIDER WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERY RETAILER IN THE STATE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BID ON THIS CONTRACT.

AND THE BELIEF THE COMPETITION IS GOOD AND THE COMPETITION WILL DELIVER THE LOWEST POSSIBLE PRICE. WE DO SEE THE RETAILERS REALLY CUT EACH OTHER UP ON THE PRICING WOMEN GO THROUGH INDICATIVE IN THE NEXT PRICING REALMS, AND THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES IN TERMS OF RATES THAT ARE OFFERED FOR THE GROUP AS A WHOLE.

IN 2017 GOING TO THE LEFT PROCUREMENT, WE ACHIEVED A RECORD LOW RATE FOR THE COUNTY OF 3.47 CENTS. 2020 MARCH 20, 2022. THE RATE FOR THIS YEAR, 2022 IS 3.53 CENTS. WE BREAK DOWN THE COSTS IN THE BUDGET REPORTS YOU CAN SEE ON THE NEXT PAGE. IN ORDER TO TRY TO DEFEND THE RATE AND CONTINUE THIS RECORD OF SAVINGS, WE WANT TO START A NEW PROCUREMENT FOR NEW CONTRACT BEGINNING IN 2023.

THE P3 BOARD WHICH COMPRISES JUDGES AND COMMISSIONERS HAVE GIVEN US THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT ABOUT A YEAR AND HALF AGO. WE WERE IN THE FINAL STAGES OF NEGOTIATING FINAL CONTRACT TEMPLATES WITH EACH OF OUR SHORT LIST OF PROVIDERS. AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH SEVERAL ROUNDS OF INDICATIVE PRICING. GETTING READY TO MOVE INTO EXECUTABLE MODE AND LOCK IN A DEAL.ND OF COURSE THE WINTER STORM, THROUGH MARKETS INTO DISARRAY.

WE WANT TO HOLD OFF ON EXECUTING PRICE RIGHT NOW. LET'S WAIT FOR THE MARKETS TO STABILIZE A LITTLE BIT AND THEN WE WILL REENTER THE MARKETPLACE.

AND THAT IS WHERE WE ARE NOW. BACK IN PROCUREMENT MODE, WE'VE SENT OUT REVISE PROCUREMENT

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PROPOSALS WITH RATES REFLECTING WHAT WE THINK WILL BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE AND ATTAIN UNDER THIS PROCUREMENT PROPOSAL. WE DO, WE ARE CONSIDERING A VARIETY OF TERMS THE BOARD IS GIVEN US A 30 TOOK A PRICING FROM EVERYTHING FROM 18 MONTHS ALL THE WAY UP TO 10 YEARS.

WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO COMPARE WHAT THE TERM RATES ARE AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO MEMBERS THAT WE SHOULD MOVE WITH WHAT WE CONSIDER TO BE THE OPTIMUM TERM LENGTH.

HER INTENTION IS IT POSSIBLE, AS IN THE PAST, KEEP THIS TOGETHER BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A PURCHASING POWER AND THAT WAY WE ARE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE BETTER QUALITY CONTRACT AND THAT WE HAVE LEVERAGE IN THE MARKETPLACE AND REALLY ABLE TO DRIVE THE PRICE DOWN CLOSE TO WHOLESALE PRICING. IN THE PAST, ALL MEMBERS HAVE STAYED WITH US FOR OUR RECOMMENDED TERM LENGTH. FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE GROUP AS A WHOLE WANTED TO GO WITH A SEVEN YEAR DEAL NUECES COUNTY EXPRESSED ONLY FIVE YEARS, WE WOULD DO A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT FROM NUECES COUNTY IF THAT'S YOUR POLICY DIRECTIVE. WITH THE UNDERSTANDING AT THE END OF THE FIVE YEARS, WE WILL BE BACK IN THE MARKETPLACE PROCURING JUST THE NUECES COUNTY AND THEREFORE, LOSING THE BULK PURCHASE ADVANTAGE WE TAKE THE ENTIRE GROUP OUT TO THE MARKETPLACE. JUST TO SUMMARIZE, THE MAIN SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE P3 AND THE TASB PROGRAMS. FIRST OF ALL, OUR RFP IS OPEN TO EVERY RETAIL ELECTRIC CREDIT IN THE STATE. ONE CONTRACTED RIGHT NOW IS RELIANT ENERGY.

WHICH IS, NOW OWNS DIRECT ENERGY. IF YOU WOULD SEE PRICING FROM DIRECT ENERGY, IT WAS ONLY BE NO HIGHER THAN WHAT WE WILL BE RECEIVING FROM RELIANT AS WE DO A PROCUREMENT. WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE PRICE AND COMPARING IT TO SEVERAL OTHER LARGE RETAILER PROVIDERS THAT CAN HANDLE THE SIZE AND HAVE THE CREDIT RATING WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO AWARD A CONTRACT FOR THIS GROUP. SECONDLY, AGAIN, WE ARE LEVERAGING THE BEST POSSIBLE PRICE BY TAKING THE ENTIRE GROUP LOAD OUT TO THE MARKETPLACE AT ONE TIME.E ARE NOT TRYING TO ADD MEMBERS WILLY-NILLY INDIVIDUALLY BY THEMSELVES AND PRICING THEM INDIVIDUALLY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE MAXIMIZING THE PURCHASING POWER OF THE GROUP AND TAKEN THE ENTIRE LOAD OUT AT ONE TIME.

SOMETHING THAT MAKES US VERY DIFFERENT TO WHAT TASB IS DOING.

THIRD, WE ARE VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT OUR AGGREGATION FEE. IT SHOWS UP AS ONE UP ON THE BILL. 53.9 CENTS PER KILOWATT HOUR. PER MEGAWATT HOUR, WE USUALLY FIND THE BROKERS OR CHARGING 3 TO $5 PER MEGAWATT HOUR PER MOST BROKERS DON'T REVEAL THEIR RATES, THE COMMISSION. WE ARE NOT QUITE SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE TASB RATE IS, PRESUMABLY IT IS HIDDEN IN THE COMMODITY COST. SO AGAIN, FULLY TRANSPARENT ORGANIZATION. BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET THE BEST INFORMATION POSSIBLE.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> SO, NOT SO MUCH QUESTIONS ON WHAT YOU WHATEVER BUT BECAUSE IT WAS NOTICED THIS WAY, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT IT AND CONFERENCE IS RENEWABLES. AND SO, JUST TELL THE COURT WHAT OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM IF THEY MADE A DECISION TO YOU KNOW, BE MORE MINDFUL OF RENEWABLES. WANT TO TAKE US DOWN THERE AND I'LL GIVE TASB A CHANCE TO ALSO ANSWER THE QUESTION GIVEN THE FORECAST ON RENEWABLES AND THE DECLINE, THE DEPICTED DECLINE

BY EIA ON NATURAL GAS AND COAL. >> IN THE PAST AND WITH THIS PROCUREMENT, WE ARE NOT PURCHASING ANY SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF ANYONE COMMODITY TYPE. EVERY NEWLY RETAIL ELECTRIC PROVIDER HAVE CONTRACT WILL HAVE THEIR OWN FUEL MIX. SOME ARE MORE GREEN AND SOME HEAVIER ON COAL, SOME HAVE MORE NATURAL GAS, SOME HAVE -- A DIFFERENT VARIETY OF COMMODITY MIXES THAT WE ARE PURCHASING. WE ARE BLIND TO WHAT THAT COMPOSITION IS.

WE DO HAVE A PROVISION, AN OPTION WITHIN THE PROCUREMENT PROPOSAL WHEREBY IF AN INDIVIDUAL MEMBER WANTS TO PURCHASE 100 PERCENT RENEWABLE, WE CAN GO OUT AND WILL PURCHASE 100 PERCENT GREEN FOR THAT ONE MEMBER OR SEVERAL MEMBERS IF WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT HAVE OPTED INTO THE OPTION. AND WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT TO GIVE US SOME FLEXIBILITY AND CHRISTIAN IN THAT MARKETPLACE, WE ARE SAYING THAT WE WILL PROCURE GREEN FOR ANY MEMBER THAT WANTS TO PURCHASE GREEN AT UP TO 110 PERCENT OF THE COST OF CONVENTIONAL SO THAT WE HAVE

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THAT QUESTION IN CASE WE CAN'T GET THERE. IN WHICH CASE WE WOULD PURCHASE CONVENTIONAL POWER. THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE PRICE PREMIUM TO BE PAID FOR PURCHASING GREEN BUT WE DON'T WANT TO TIE ANYONE'S HANDS, AT THAT SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY IS INTERESTED IN DOING, THIS GIVES US FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

>> AT A PREMIUM OF 10 PERCENT. >> CORRECT.> I JUST WANT THE COURT TO KNOW THAT.

BECAUSE THAT WAS AN INTERESTING YOU KNOW, OPTION. OKAY, LET ME OPEN UP BACK TO QUESTIONS FOR DAVID. COURT, WEST -- WE LOST COMMISSIONER CHESNEY.

>> 3 TO 5 YEARS WITH YOU OR THREE YEARS? >> THREE YEARS.

>> AYOU SAY COULD DO ANOTHER THREE OR FIVE? >> WILL BE DOING RIGHT NOW , WE ARE GETTING READY TO REQUEST INDICATIVE PRICING FROM A VARIETY OF RETAILERS FOR A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TERMS. WE HAVE PRICES UP TO 10 YEARS. THE WAY WE LOOK AT RIGHT NOW IS

PRICING FOR THREE, FIVE, SEVEN YEARS. >> WOULD MAKE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE MEMBERS ABOUT WHAT WE WOULD THINK WOULD BE THE OPTIMUM TERM.

WE WILL GO OUT ON THE FRONT END AND SAY WE SHOULD DO A 10 YEAR DEAL NOW.

WE DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL WE HAVE ALL THE PRICING RETURNED TO US BY COMPETING PROVIDERS.

>> REGROW SURVIVOR 10, THE PRICES STAY THE SAME? >> THE FURTHER YOU GO RIGHT NOW THE CHEAPER IT GETS. THE PRICING CURVE WHICH SHOWED 2023 AND 2024 AND 2025 THE MOST EXPENSIVE YEARS. WHEN YOU GET TO 26, 27, 28, 29. THE PERSON BECOMES MORE SHALLOW. IT MAKES A LONG TIME PRICING A LITTLE MORE ATTRACTIVE.

>> THANK YOU. >> SO, TYPICALLY BECAUSE WE LEARNED THAT THE LAST GO AROUND, IF WE WANTED TO STAY WITH P3, WE DO NOTHING BECAUSE IT'S AN OPT OUT TYPE OF PROVISION WILL VOTE AFFIRMATIVELY BUT WE DON'T VOTE TO OPT OUT.

JUST TO MAKE SURE THE COURT UNDERSTANDS, WHAT THE PROCESS IS.

AGAIN AFFIRMATIVELY, WE WANT TO, WE DON'T KNOW THE MIX, I GUESS YOU KNOW THE MIX IN ORDER TO GET THE PRICES BUT I WISH WE HAD SOMETHING OTHER THAN ALL RENEWABLES OR NOTHING BECAUSE I

THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE WERE IS NOT AN OPTION, AND A HYBRID? >> IT IS.

BY DEFAULT WE WOULD BE PURCHASING FUTURE ENERGY SUPPLY FROM A RETAILER THAT HAS A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE PORTFOLIO COMING FROM RENEWABLES ALREADY.HAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE MARKET. EVERY RETAILER OUT THERE WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF

THE PORTFOLIO. >> AND OF COURSE YOU HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL BUT NEITHER DOES EIA AND THEY SEEM TO MAKE PRETTY INTERESTING PREDICTIONS. WHAT IS YOUR PREDICTION ON THE MARKET? WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE INSURANCE MARKET AND HOW DO YOU SEE US ELECTRIC POWER IN THAT SECTOR? OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A LOT OF

DYNAMICS GOING ON BUT DO WANT TO MAKE GENERAL COMMENTS? >> I CAN.

THERE'S A LOT IN THE AIR RIGHT NOW ESPECIALLY WITH -- BUT COMBINED WITH INCREASING POPULATION TRENDS IN TEXAS, INFLATION, CERTAINLY DRIVING UP DEMAND, AT THE SAME TIME WE ARE SEEING MORE AND MORE DOMESTIC PRODUCTION, WE BEGIN TO EXPORT THE SO THERE ARE A LOT OF VARIABLES AT PLAY. AND IT REALLY IS, I LIKE TO GO OUT ON A LIMB AND SAY WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE MARKET WILL BE IN A FEW WEEKS OR A FEW MONTHS.

THERE IS MORE STABILITY IN THE MARKETPLACE NOW THAT ALLOWS US TO THINK THAT MAYBE IT WOULD BE

A GOOD TIME TO PROCURE. >> ADJUSTER WAS INTERESTING, IT WOULD BE LOWER THIS FEBRUARY THE LAST. AND OF COURSE EXTREME COLD EVENTS ARE FRIGHTENING BECAUSE OF ALL THE THINGS YOU JUST SAID. DEMAND ON THE MARKETPLACE BUT DEMAND IN TEXAS IS REALLY WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. SUCH AMAZING GROWTH IN TEXAS POPULATION WISE IT PUTS A STRAIN ON US AND I DID NOT LIKE TO SEE THAT OUR GENERATION WAS 1.3 PERCENT LOWER THAN LAST FEBRUARY 1, WHEN WE ARE ALL TRYING TO RAMP UP.

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ANYWAY, JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. LOOK, I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME INPUT HERE FROM COMMISSIONERS OR YOU'RE WELCOME TO CHIME IN BUT AGAIN, I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY INTERESTING, WE DIDN'T GO OVER IT TOO MUCH BUT YOU REALLY SHOULD ASSESS THE WEATHER EVENT FROM LAST FEBRUARY.

DAVID IS INCLUDED IN THE PRESENTATION. YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT OVERALL, WE HAD ENOUGH BUILT IN IN SAVINGS TO INSULATE US BUT IT WAS LIKE THERE WASN'T A HIT, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN THE LUCKIEST PEOPLE ON EARTH, HAD THERE BEEN NO HIT.

BUT OUR INSULATION KEPT US FROM ANY SERIOUS RAMIFICATIONS. AND THAT CAN BE FOUND ON PAGE 10. THAT WAS OF INTEREST TO ME, DAVID.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TOUCH ON THAT. >> HAD WE NOT FIXED -- I WOULD NOT BE HERE TALKING TO YOU TODAY BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE P3 BUT ONE ITEM THAT WAS SOME EXPOSURE WAS -- TWO WAYS OF HANDLING THE LINE LOSS CHARGES FOR WHAT IS TO PAY A PREMIUM TO FIX THE COST. THE OTHER IS TO FLOAT THE MARKET.

P3 IS ALWAYS FLOATED THAT TO THE MARKET AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT.

BECAUSE TO FIX THE COST ACROSS THE GROUP WOULD ESSENTIALLY CREATE A SITUATION WHERE THERE COULD BE SUBSIDIZATION BETWEEN MEMBERS AND IS SOMETHING WITH P3 THE BOARD SAID WE SHOULD NOT DO, WE SHOULD NOT ALLOW SITUATION WHERE ONE MEMBER IS BENEFITING AT THE EXPENSE OF ANOTHER. SO IN ORDER TO BE TRUE TO EACH MEMBERS LINE LOSS PROFILE WE HAVE FLOATED THAT COST THAT MARKET SINCE 2009. THE BENEFIT OF DOING THAT IS APPARENTLY SAVED $304,000 FROM THE POLICY OF FLOODING THE COST RATHER THAN FIXING IT AT MARKET. SINCE 2009. IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR, EXPOSURE WAS 117,000. I THINK WE SEE HER OVER THE RUN, YOU HAVE GOOD FROM THE POLICY OF FLOATING RATHER THAN FIXING THE COST. NO ONE LIKES SURPRISES AND WE WERE UPSET AS EVERYONE ABOUT THAT IT WAS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN. WE BELIEVE P3 MODEL IS DESIGNED TO ACT RATIONALLY AND IT WAS THE MARKET IN THE WAY THE MARKET WAS BEING REGULATED.

WE SAW SOME BAD WEATHER THIS FEBRUARY, WE DIDN'T SEE THE SAME KIND OF FALLOUT BY ANY SCALE. BECAUSE OF THE BAD WEATHER THIS FEBRUARY.

WE THINK THAT SITUATION WAS UNUSUAL. WE HOPE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN BUT RECOMMENDATION IS STILL THE COST OF LINE LOSSES SHOULD BE FLOATED, RATHER THAN FIXED.

>> COMMISSIONERS? NOT GETTING A LOT OF TAKERS RIGHT NOW DAVID.

MUST BE LUNCH TIME. LET ME ASK YOU, FINALLY, WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PROVIDE SOME TIME SO THAT ANOTHER PROPOSAL CAN BE GIVEN, CAN YOU INFORM THE COURT, WERE YOU ASKING THE COURT TODAY AS I SAY, NOT ACT IN ORDER TO ACT. OR WOULD YOU WHO, DO YOU HAVE

ANY OPPOSITION TO THE WAITING GAME? >> JUDGE, OUR OPPOSITION IS BY APRIL 16 I LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE COMMITTED IS SO THAT WE CAN TAKE IT TO THE MARKETPLACE.

PRICING ON A COMMITTED LOAD LET THE RETAILERS KNOW WILL BE THERE SO THEY CAN START WORKING

AND SEE WHAT PRICING WILL BE AVAILABLE. >> THERE IN LIES THE PROBLEM BECAUSE WE WERE SCHEDULED COURT THE NEXT DAY. ON THE 16TH.

SO ON THE 13TH, OKAY WE DO. SUPER, GREAT SORRY, I WAS THINKING 16TH.

WE COULD MAKE THAT DECISION. >> JUDGE, IN TERMS OF LOA FOR TASB WE CAN'T TAKE A POSITION ON THAT. BECAUSE DIRECT ENERGY IS THE SOLE SOURCE AND OWNED BY RELIANT, THAT'S ONE OF THE COUNTERPARTIES WE WOULD EXPECT YOU TO RECEIVE ANY KIND OF PRICING THAT IS SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENT TO WHAT WE WOULD GET FROM RELIANT.

>> I'M SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE PHRASED BETTER. I WAS REALLY JUST SUGGESTING AND WANTED TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE ASKING THE COURT TO PROVE TO AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS A TIMEFRAME THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO AT LEAST CATER TO THE IDEA OF FULL DISCLOSURE, TRANSPARENCY AND RECEIVING A PROPOSAL. AND IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO

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IT. AND IT WOULD GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO, EVEN THOUGH THIS WAS

PROVIDED IS IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY. >> MOTION.

>> OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> GO AHEAD.

>> CONCERNING WHAT WE AS THE COUNTY IS THAT THE USE? >> YES.

>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE? >> ALL THE ACCOUNTS THE COUNTY HAS EVERYTHING FROM THE COURTHOUSE TO OFFICE BUILDINGS, BONDS, STREETLIGHTS, GEL FACILITIES, ANY MEDICAL FACILITIES. AND FOR THE COUNTY PAYS THE BILL FOR. WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE CONTRACT, ALONG WITH FIVE AND

HALF THOUSAND OTHER ACCOUNTS FROM OTHER MEMBERS. >> IF THE USAGE AROUND THE COUNTY DRAWS A LOT OF ELECTRICITY, WHAT EFFECT HOW WE DO THINGS IN NUECES COUNTY? ECAUSE I JUST HEARD YESTERDAY THAT BITCOIN IS COMING IN. AND IS GOING TO USE AN AWFUL LOT OF ELECTRICITY. IT'S GOING TO USE MORE ELECTRICITY THAN REFINERIES

WHICH IS PROBABLY -- DOES NOT HAVE ANY EFFECT? >> THE BITCOIN GUYS WILL HAVE TO NEGOTIATE THEIR OWN CONTRACT. IT WOULD BE PART OR PARCEL OF WHAT WE ALREADY NEGOTIATED FOR THE COUNTY ON YOUR BEHALF. I WOULD ADD THAT IF FOR EXAMPLE AT THE TIME CONSUMPTION CHANGES, UP OR DOWN THERE IS NO PENALTY FOR COUNTY WE NEGOTIATE A FIXED RATE FOR THE COMMODITY ON YOUR BEHALF. AND THAT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE REGARDLESS OF HOW YOUR CONSUMPTION CHANGES. BUT IN TERMS OF OTHER INDUSTRIES MOVING IN AND OUT OF THE COUNTY, THEY WILL HAVE TO NEGOTIATE THEIR OWN ELECTRICITY

CONTRACTS. IT WOULD NOT BE PART OF P3. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> OKAY DAVID, THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I GUESS I WILL ASK TASB THE SAME QUESTION ALREADY KNOW BECAUSE YOU SAID INCORPORATE CONFIRM THE OPTIMIZATION THERE IS OPTIMIZATION BY THE COUNTY IF WE SO CHOOSE TO WITH P3. WITH REGARDS TO THE GENERATORS

AND BEING ABLE TO GO BACK TO THE GRID ON MARGINAL PRICING. >> AND THAT IS CORRECT.

WE KNOW THAT RELIABILITY ISSUES ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF EXPECTATIONS FROM THE ELECTRICITY CONTRACT. RESILIENCY IS A BIG FACTOR. WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW THAT WOULD BE MANAGED WITHIN THE P3 CONTRACT. WE WILL BE ABLE TO DESIGN THAT CONTRACT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE COUNTY TO TAKE ACCOUNT OF THOSE KIND OF DEMANDS AND INITIATIVES. AND RESILIENCY MEASURES YOU'RE PLANNING TO PUT INTO OPERATION

AS I UNDERSTAND BY THE END OF THE YEAR. >> APPRECIATE THAT.

OKAY GREAT, MOTION AND SECOND. IF THERE IS NO OTHER DISCUSSION I WILL ASK FOR THOSE IN FAVOR TO VOTE BY SAYING AYE. DAVID, LOOK FOR THE FINAL DECISION APRIL 13 AND BE HAPPY TO REVISIT THE PREVIOUS ITEM FOR TASB WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

THREE, SORRY. ITEM NUMBER THREE. THANK YOU, DAVID.

>> APPRECIATE IT. >> JUST WHAT YOU HAVE AWARENESS.

I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE COURT MANAGER TO WORK WITH YOU TO RECEIVE THE PROPOSAL JUST IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC INTEREST, GOOD PUBLIC POLICY, GOOD GOVERNMENT.

TO RECEIVE WHATEVER INFORMATION THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO SHARE WITH US AFTER THE DATA POINTS YOU NEED. AND I WILL LOOK FOR A SECOND. [INAUDIBLE]

>> I THINK IT WAS ONLY POSTED AS PRESENTATION ON HIS ITEM. SO I DON'T THINK WE CAN.

>> OPEN RECORDS, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ASK ADMINISTRATION TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION WE

NEED. >> I WOULD JUST SAY THAT YOU ARE HEARING A DIRECTIVE, JUST WORK WITH THE COURT MANAGER AND SHE CAN HELP YOU. THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT, YOU CAN READ THE TEA LEAVES. SHE WILL WORK WITH YOU. SO THAT YOU CAN GET WHAT YOU

NEED. >> I'M IN FAVOR OF GIVING HIM WHAT HE WANTS FOR INFORMATION

HOW ABOUT THAT? >> I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT. BASICALLY, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS DO YOU WANT A PRICE RIGHT NOW WILL GET THE INFORMATION OR GIVEN THE PRICE IN JANUARY,

THAT IS SOMETHING FOR CONSIDERATION. >> I WOULD JUST SAY THAT A GOOD

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OPPORTUNITY WOULD BE TO PRESENT ALL OPTIONS AND THAT WAY YOU CAN GIVE THE COURT THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT. BUT I MEAN, OUR CONTRACT DOESN'T END UNTIL NOVEMBER RIGHT? SO IF I WERE YOU I WOULD CHOOSE JANUARY BECAUSE THAT MAKES

SENSE. WE HAVE A CURRENT -- >> THE 30TH?

>> I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, FIRST METER READING IN JANUARY.

I WOULDN'T DO IT TODAY BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT BE RELEVANT TODAY. BUT JANUARY MAKES SENSE.

THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU WAS THIS, REALLY MORE OF AN AWARENESS BECAUSE IT WOULD BE UNFAIR TO NOT TELL YOU THIS BUT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING ON RESILIENCY FOR THE COURTHOUSE IN EXTREME EVENTS. AND SO, IN THAT FASHION, WITH NATURAL GAS GENERATORS THAT HAVE BEEN ORDERED AND NATURAL GAS LINES COMING IN. AND SO, WHEN WE DID SPECS FOR RFP, WE DESIGNED FOR INSTALLATION INCLUDING OPTIMIZATION IN CASE THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO US. SO JUST AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT, THAT IS

SOMETHING WE -- >> IF THERE WAS -- >> THE QUICK ANSWER, THERE'S NO ISSUES WITH REGARD TO THAT. I'M WALKING AWAY FROM THIS PERSPECTIVE.

OUR GOAL IS FOR YOU TO GET THIS WEATHER IT'S ALSO P3. USE THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO GIVE YOU A PRICE AND WE WILL DO SO. AND WE WILL DO SOLELY TO GIVE YOU MULTIPLE TERMS. AND YOU MAKE A DECISION AT THAT POINT IN TIME WHICH WAY YOU

WANT TO GO. >> FAIR ENOUGH. THANK YOU SIR.

OKAY WE WILL MOVE ON. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF SECOND MEMO TO WORK AUTHORIZATION NUMBER ONE WITH LOCKWOOD, ANDREWS, AND NEWNAM PROVIDED FOR RELOCATION OF PREVIOUSLY COMMITTED FUNDS. ITEM NUMBER SIX.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED SOMEONE FROM, YOU'LL CALL THEM? OKAY LET ME SKIP THAT FOR JUST

[8. Discuss and consider approval of Amendment No. 1 Interlocal Agreement regarding West Haven Park Agreement between Nueces County and City of Corpus Christi.]

A MOMENT SO WE CAN HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE ROOM. WE'VE ALREADY DONE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN LES MOVED TO EIGHT, APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE LOCAL AGREEMENT GUARDING RESTHAVEN PARK BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY AND CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, THE AMENDMENT IS IN

ORDER. >> MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND ANY COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AMENDMENT? THAT WANTS TO BE REVEALED?

>> IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE ALREADY. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

>> SO SAY NO COST. NO COST AMENDMENT. >> EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER HERE, READY TO PROCEED. THIS IS ON THE WESTHAVEN. ITEM 8.

GOOD TO GO! ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER NINE. DISCUSSING I BELIEVE THIS IS, IS THIS EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM? HOLD ON. IT IS, I'LL TAKE THIS TO

[10. Discuss and consider additional construction items needed to complete the recovery of IB Magee Park Office. ]

EXECUTIVE. ITEM NUMBER 10 I WILL NOTE THAT SCOTT CROSSES ONLINE.

THIS IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION ITEMS NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE RECOVERY OF IB MAGEE PARK OFFICE. WELCOME PURITY OF ITEMS TO BE ADDRESSED AND FUNDING SOURCE PROVIDED AND I THINK THAT WE'VE GOT ONE. DO YOU WANT TO TAKE IT AWAY ON

IB MAGEE? >> YES. YOU'VE GOT THE LITTLE SPREADSHEET THAT I PUT TOGETHER FOR THE COMMISSIONER. SOME OF THESE NUMBERS YESTERDAY, WE LOOKED AT THE MUSCAT AND MAKO CONTRACTING. WITH RENT THREE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT WAS NOTHING I WAS CONSIDERING. BUT SCOTT ADVISED US THAT UNDER THE GENERAL CONDITIONS OF THE CONTRACTOR, THEY ARE EXPERIENCING SOME COST WITH BEING ON THE PROJECT DELIVERY, LIKE THE ROOF SYSTEM THAT WILL COVER THE ROOF AND THE SLOPE ROOF, SIX MONTHS OUT BEFORE IT GETS HERE. THIS IS THE 84 GRANT YOU SEE THERE THAT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO. BUT I WENT AHEAD AND PLAN FOR JUST IN CASE. WE CAN CUT THE COST DOWN SOME BY ONCE WE GET EVERYTHING DRAWN IN, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE CONTRACTOR DEMOBILIZE AND WITH NO REAL MOBILIZATION COST SO THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE WITH OVERHEAD WHILE WE ARE WAITING ON PRODUCT TO COME IN.

BUT I WAS A BIT SURPRISED WITH THE OFFICE FURNITURE AND CABINETS THE CABINETS INCLUDE

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THE ACTUAL STANDUP STORAGE CABINETS AND FOR PRODUCT AND STUFF WE HAVE UP THERE.

THE COUNTERTOPS, THE FURNITURE ESTIMATE WE GOT WORK INTO PURCHASING AND THE VENDOR WAS I THINK IT WAS 219, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE THAN IT WAS 25,000 TO FIX THE COUNTERTOP AND CABINETS UNDERNEATH THE COUNTERTOP WHERE THE CLERKS FACE IS.

THAT'S NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL SCOPE OF WORK. WE WILL HAVE TO DO THAT ON HER OWN WITH A CABINET VENDOR. THE THING HERE ON THE CONTINGENCY, THE CONTINGENCY IS BUILT ON ITEMS ONE THROUGH EIGHT. CONTINGENCY IS IN MY OPINION, ELEVATED BUT I'M PERSONALLY NOT THAT CONCERNED WITH IT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I THINK WILL COME IN UNDER SOME OF THE NUMBERS. THESE ARE JUST WHAT I COULD GATHER UP FROM THE LAST TIME WE MET AND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY DIRECTION, I THINK THEY ARE GOOD NUMBERS.

I WOULDN'T MESS WITH THEM RIGHT NOW. YOU'RE GOING TO GET SOME MONEY BACK. BUT WE DON'T USE IS NOT GOING TO ANYTHING ELSE, AND AS I TOLD YOU LAST TIME, MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THESE INSURANCE PROCEEDS IS TO FIX EXACTLY WHAT WAS

BROKE AND WHATEVER YOU DO AFTER THAT MAKES ME NO DIFFERENCE. >> OKAY SCOTT.

WE HAVE ITEM DESCRIPTIONS AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING ONLINE, THEY INCLUDE AIR BARRIER TESTING, NEW FLAT ROOF AND PAPER SYSTEM, HOLLOW CORE PLUG REPAIR DELETE PERGOLA AND ADD GUTTERS. OFFICE FURNITURE, CABINETS, COUNTERTOPS, IT, COMMUNICATION AND THEN THERE IS A LINE ITEM FOR MANUFACTURING DELIVERY REGARDING THE MATERIAL AVAILABLE. IN ADDITION TO ENGINEERING AND INSPECTION, BLESS YOU.

AND SO, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT HERE IS A TOTAL OF $1,002,500. ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES I THOUGHT OF IS THAT IN OUR SEO 21, WE HAD $500,000 ATTRIBUTABLE TO OUR HALF PERCENT SHARE OF THE GRANT AND BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE PROCESS HAS CHANGED, NOW THAT GOES TO OUR LOCAL COG. THE COMPETITION, WE ARE NOT IN COMPETITION WITH OTHER TIER 1, IS JUST TO OUR COG. ANOTHER WAS WE DON'T ANTICIPATE WE WILL NEED TO MATCH ANY MORE WHEN WE SUBMIT LATER THIS SUMMER, EARLY FALL. THAT $500,000 COULD BE RELEASED TO FOCUS ON THIS IB MAGEE OFFICE IS ONE SOURCE OF THE FUNDING.

AND I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP FOR OUR CONSIDERATION TODAY. >> 106 OR A MILLION

? >> SCOTT? >> I'VE GOT ONE HERE FOR A

MILLION . -- >> THAT -- [INAUDIBLE] WHICH

ONE? WHAT ARE WE GOING WITH? >> HE'S COMPARING THE TWO.

500,000, 506 AND THE MILLION 2500. >> I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE

500,000. >> THAT WAS ONE YOU SENT THAT I SAID TO SEND BACK TO DOUBLE CHECK BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME THINGS LIKE THE FURNITURE AND FIXTURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT,

LET ME SEE, I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. >> YOU WANT TO KNOW IS THE

MILLION DOLLARS MORE ACCURATE? >> YEAH, THAT IS AS ACCURATE AS I CAN GET.

I THINK I CAN GET, I THINK I CAN COME IN A POSITIVE I CAN COME IN UNDERNEATH THAT.

RANCIS ON THE FURNITURE QUOTE, THAT WAS JUST RE-OUTFITTING THE SPACES WITH

THE SAME, NOTHING FANCY IN HERE. >> I WOULD JUST SAY IT HAS A A

MILLION 2500. >> THAT THE SAFEST BET BECAUSE AGAIN, AS I GO THROUGH THIS COMMISSIONER GONZALES, AS WE TACKLE EACH ONE OF THE LINE ITEMS, I'M GOING TO BE BRINGING THIS FOR Y'ALL APPROVAL AT COURT WE ARE JUST YOUR MARKING THE FUNDING SO I DON'T HAVE TO COME ASK YOU FOR ANYTHING MORE. BASING THIS OFF OF WHAT WE GOT

FROM INSURANCE FROM THE STORM. >> ARE REALLY KNOW THE MITIGATION STUFF AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAN BE USED FOR ANOTHER PROJECT. IT WOULD SEEM TO ME AND THUS NOT A BAD IDEA BY ANY MEANS BUT IT WAS SEEN ALSO THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR SOME YOU KNOW MONEY

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WE ARE USING, THE SETTLEMENT I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR SOME OF THE SETTLEMENT MONEY TO BE SPENT FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS A DIRECT IMPACT. I WAS JUST GOING TO SUGGEST.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY 50-50. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT MITIGATION STUFF WORKS AND IF WE CAN GET THE NUMBER FOR SURE AND DO THAT OR WHAT I WAS THINKING THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER

-- >> I'M HAPPY TO ASK DALE BUT I'D LOVE TO HAVE TERESA COME IN HERE BECAUSE THAT JUST TO MAKE SURE WE ALL KIND OF GO BACK IN TIME HERE, YOU WERE CALLED AT THE COURT APPROVED A GRANT APPLICATION FOR CDBG MITIGATION, IT'S A HUD -- IN THE FIRST ROUND, GET TWO BITES OF THE APPLE. IN THE FIRST ROUND, THERE WAS A ONE PERCENT MATCH WE SPLIT. 50-50 WITH THE JOINT APPLICANT. THE PROCESS HAS CHANGED, WE WON'T NEED TO HAVE PERCENT MATCH ANYMORE. BUT IT IS STILL BEING HELD IF YOU WILL, TO THINK OF IT AS A BANK ACCOUNT. LET'S RELEASE THE DOLLARS AND

PUT IT FORWARD. >> I WOULD HOLD THIS ONE FOR BOB HALL AND USE THE SETTLEMENT

MONEY FOR THIS ONE IF THAT'S OKAY. >> ITS OWN EFFORT TO GET THE

DOLLARS APPROPRIATED. >> I SAY WE GET THE SETTLEMENT FUNDS, $1,002,500.

>> I WILL SECOND THE MOTION. >> AM I GOOD? >> GIVE US A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

MY ONLY, TELL US ABOUT THE PROCESS MAYBE, DO YOU THINK YOU CAN GET GOING ON THIS PRETTY

QUICKLY? >> YES I REALLY DO. I WAS WORKING WITH MICHAEL YESTERDAY. AS FAR AS THE INSURANCE MONEY TO DEAL WITH ONLY HARVEY RELATED ITEMS FOR DAMAGE. WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO, THE COMMISSION AMENDED HIS MOTION LAST TIME TO DO A JOB ORDER CONTRACT FOR THE OFFICE AND GET THAT GOING IMMEDIATELY.

ON THESE THINGS HERE, THE ONLY DELAY WE ARE DEALING WITH OUR MATERIAL SUPPLY DELAYS.

THEY WILL BE FINISHED WATERPROOFING THE WILDERNESS WEEK ALL THE WINDOWS AND AND SO WELL HALF HER AND THE REST WILL BE HERE NEXT WEEK THEY WILL GET ALL THE WINDOWS AND WE WILL ESSENTIALLY BE ABLE TO GET EVERYTHING WATERPROOFED EXCEPT FOR THE DELAY ON THE ROOFING MATERIALS. THAT WILL TAKE SOME TIME BUT THERE MIGHT BE A WAY, A PATH FORWARD TO WHERE WE CAN GET OCCUPANCY OF THE BUILDING WHILE WE ARE STILL WAITING ON SOME ROOFTOP ITEMS AND GET THE BUILDING BACK PUT IN PLACE BUT I HAVE TO GET THE ELEVATOR IN THEIR OUTSIDE I HAVE MY ADA ACCESS. WE TALKED ABOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS AT IB MAGEE YESTERDAY AND I DO THINK, I'M GOING TO GET YOU SOME COST SAVINGS UP THIS NUMBER. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH BUT I WILL GET YOU THERE.

LIKE THE OFFICE FURNITURE. THEY SAID IT WAS 8 TO 10 WEEKS FOR THE OFFICE FURNITURE.

I DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD COME THAT FAST, THAT'S INCREDIBLE. UT I CAN'T GET IT RIGHT NOW I HAVE NO PLACE TO SORT AND TRY TO GET INTO THE BUILDING. AND SO, WE WILL START MAKING SOME PROGRESS REAL FAST HERE. WITH A LOT OF THESE ITEMS ESPECIALLY ONCE WE GET EVERYTHING DRIED IN AND THEY CAN MOVE TO THE INSIDE AND FINISH OUT THE INSIDE.

SO I THINK WE REALLY GEARING UP HERE, IT'S GETTING A LOT BETTER THAN WHAT HAD BEEN IN THE PAST AND WHEN I WAS TALKING WITH SCOTT JUST FOR INSTANCE, HE ASKED ME ABOUT THE NUMBERS I GOT FROM THE ENGINEER ON THE OFFICE I'M IN NOW, HE ASKED ME WHEN DID YOU GET THOSE NUMBERS? I SAID LAST WEEK. HE SAID YOU BETTER HURRY HE SAID THOSE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO HOLD VERY LONG. THAT'S THE KIND OF MARKET WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW WHICH IS

SCARY. >> OKAY, THANK YOU SCOTT. STICK AROUND WE GOT SOME MORE ITEMS. YOU WANT TO GO BACK? [INAUDIBLE]

>> OKAY NEVERMIND I WILL HOLD. YOU LET ME KNOW. OKAY, LET ME KNOW.

NUMBER 11 IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ALLOCATING APPROPRIATE PORTION OF HURRICANE HARVEY INSURANCE SETTLEMENT FUNDS TO REBUILD BOB HALL. AND RELATED MATTERS.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROPRIATE SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS FROM THE

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HURRICANE HARVEY INSURANCE SETTLEMENT FUNDS TOWARDS BOB HALL PEER AND IN AN EFFORT TO HELP US UNDERSTAND WHY, IF YOU WILL GO REFER TO OR REFER BACK TO SCOTT CROSS AGAIN BUT THERE ARE SOME BASICS THAT NEED TO TO BE ESTABLISHED. AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, OUR BEST ESTIMATE IS, YOU AT LEAST NEED $28 MILLION BARE-BONES MINIMUM, AND THAT PROBABLY DOESN'T EVEN HAVE ALL THE CONTINGENCIES. BUT AT 28 MILLION YOU GET YOUR OLD PIER, GET THE RESTROOMS, ALONG WITH YOUR CONCESSION AND BAIT, GET A BETTER WIDTH FOR SAFETY AND MAINTENANCE. AND YOU GET ONE OF THE MID ANGULAR STRUCTURES, THE ONE THAT IS AT THE END WHICH IS GEOMETRICALLY DESIGNED TO OBVIOUSLY BE INCREDIBLY RESILIENT FOR THESE EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS INCLUDING SEARCH.> JUDGE MAY ASK A FAVOR? I APOLOGIZE THIS IS TOTALLY ON ME.

THIS WAS SUPPOSED BE PRINTED AND PROVIDED. I HAD A DETAILED PROPOSAL THAT I WORKED ON. I WAS GOING TO LET EVERYONE LOOK AT.

CAN WE HOLD THIS ONE UNTIL I GET BACK AND GET IT OUT TO EVERYONE AND EVERYONE DIGESTED? IT'S REAL SIMPLE AS THE ONE SHEET THING I WANTED TO DESCRIBE THE DISCUSSION TO JUSTIFY THE NUMBERS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. I APOLOGIZE THAT THAT THAT WAS

IN THE BOOK. SHE'S WORKING ON IT RIGHT NOW. >> WE DO TO SHARE, WOULD YOU JUST SHARE WITH US, I THINK HERE BETWEEN FIVE AND SEVEN SEVEN -AND-A-HALF-MILLION IS IN THE REALM, YOU HAVE A NUMBER HIGHER THAN THAT?> NO, WHAT TERESA TOLD ME -- THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT WE SET ASIDE 18 MILLION THAT WAS 18 MILLION. TO GET TO YOUR NUMBER IT'S A

LITTLE HIGHER NUMBER. I WANTED TO PUT IT. >> I HAVE A FEW.

>> RIGHT, JUST GIVE ME A FEW MINUTES. IT'S TOTALLY ON ME.

IT'S A ONE-PAGE DEAL REALLY EASY TO READ. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND BUT IF YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE TIME I THINK I CAN GET YOU THE INFORMATION.

>> QUITE THE OPPOSITE. WE WILL HOLD AND. >> COMMISSIONER, I'VE GOT AN

EXTRA SPREADSHEET WITH THE COST. >> B.

AND THEN I DID MY OWN THAT I WANTED TO START THE DISCUSSION WITH.

>> NEVERMIND I'M SORRY. >> WOULD BE GOOD TO SEND THAT TO CONNIE? SO THAT WE CAN GET ON THE SCREEN, SCOTT. GO AHEAD AND SEND IT TO CONNIE.

AND THEN CONNIE, IF YOU COULD DO A SPLIT SCREEN IN A MINUTE? >> I'M DOING THAT RIGHT NOW.

>> THAT'S FINE. WHAT WE NEED TO SEE, ALL THE ITEMS LISTED AS.

WE CAN HAND THEM OUT. LET'S MOVE TO, ITEM 13 IS EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM.

ITEM 14 IS I HAVE, WE LITTLE CONCERNS THAT NEED TO BE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

15 HAS BEEN TABLED. >> IS 13 JUST FOR THE WETLANDS AND --

>> AND UNDERSTAND WHY WE NEED EXECUTIVE SESSION PROGRESS I SPOKE TO LITIGATION COUNSEL AND WE NEED TO HAVE THAT IN VE SESSION SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IT.

IT'S A LEGAL DOCUMENT AND HAS AN EFFECT ON OUR CURRENT -- >> DOCUMENT WE JUST GOT WE GOT ONE HOUR AGO BUT MY QUESTION WAS MORE IN THE F -- I WANT TO KNOW WHERE WE GOT OFF TRACK BECAUSE WE HEARD THESE PEOPLE A LONG NG TIME AGO. WE JUST NOW GETTING THIS AND SO I NEED TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS OUT HERE AND THEN I AGREE WITH YOU THAT PART OF THIS NEEDS TO

BE LEGAL. >> WE WILL NOT BE DISCUSSING THE DOCUMENT BECAUSE IT IS A

LEGAL DOCUMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE GONE OVER. >> I DIDN'T EVEN READ IT BECAUSE I JUST GOT IT ABOUT AN HOUR AGO WHEN IT WAS SENT TO ME BUT I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THE PROCESS AND HOW THIS -- > IN THAT CASE, HANGOVER SECOND WHILE I GO TO KERALA TO

[16. Discuss and consider adoption of Order of Special Election for the state constitutional amendment election on Saturday, May 7, 2022.]

16, 17 AND 18.I KNOW YOU'RE WAITING ON THAT. THE ADOPTION ORDER -- ITEM 16.

I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THIS ORDER OF SPECIAL ELECTION. I'LL TAKE COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ AS A SECOND SATURDAY, MAY 7. AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

[17. Discuss and consider establishing the Early Voting Polling Locations for the May 7, 2022, Joint Constitutional Election.]

THEN CHARACTER, THE COUNTY CLERK HAS PROVIDED US AN EARLY VOTING POLLING LOCATION FOR THE MAY 7 ELECTION. THIS IS A JOINT CONSTITUTIONAL ELECTION.ND IT IS ITEM 17,

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THERE ARE, THERE IS ONE CHANGE, I'M SORRY. NOT EARLY VOTING.

NOT TO WORRY ABOUT THAT CHANGE! OKAY THIS IS ONLY THE EARLY VOTING POLLING LOCATIONS.

SHE'S PROVIDED YOU AND ALSO TOLD US THAT SHE'S DONE SOME GOOD DILIGENCE CHECK IN WITH EVERYBODY AND THERE ARE NO OPPOSITION OR OBJECTION TO THESE EARLY VOTING POLLING LOCATIONS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY, AND THEN WE NOW GO TO THE ELECTION DAY VOTING CENTERS

[18. Discuss and consider approval of Election Day Vote Centers for Saturday, May 7, 2022, Joint Constitutional Election.]

ITEM 18. STILL FOR JOINT CONSTITUTIONAL ELECTION, STILL MAY 7. WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDED WITH ONE CHANGE WHICH WAS THE -- WE REMOVED IT BUT LET EVERYONE KNOW SHE LET US KNOW THAT THIS MORNING. NO YORKTOWN AND THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR ELECTION DAY BOAT CENTERS. ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY AND CONNIE --

>> HAVE TWO DOCUMENTS ONE FROM SCOTT CROSS AND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, WHICH WOULD YOU LIKE?

>> COMMISSIONER CHESNEY.> I NEED THAT ONE. >> GO AHEAD AND PUT IT UP WILL

[11. Discuss and consider allocating appropriate portion of Hurricane Harvey insurance settlement funds to rebuild Bob Hall Pier, and related matters.]

GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 11. WE GOT 16, 17 AND 18 DOWN. >> AND SO, IF I CAN WALK EVERYONE THROUGH THIS A LITTLE IF YOU DON'T MIND. THIS IS THE PROJECTION FROM JACOBS THAT WE STARTED WITH, HOLD ON. I'VE LOOKED AT IT 100 TIMES.

THIS IS THE PROTECTIONIST OF THE HIGH AND LOW. WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ON THIS THEY BELIEVE BASED ON WHERE WE ARE NOW THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THE HIGH.

AND SO, CONNIE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GET ALL IN ONE SCREEN AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GO UP AND DOWN A LITTLE BIT. THAT WOULD BE BETTER.

UP HERE IS THE REPLACEMENT IN KIND. THAT IS BASICALLY YOU KNOW, PUTTING IT BACK THE WAY IT IS BASICALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THAT IT COMES DOWN TO THE 17,000,921 THAT HAS ALL OF THE COME AS A JUDGE REFERRED TO THE SOFT COSTS IN THERE.

AND THE SOFT COSTS ESTIMATE IF YOU TAKE THE HIGH SHOW US JUST AS AN IN-KIND, IN THE WHOLE OF ABOUT $4 MILLION. AND THEN, IF YOU TAKE THE ADDITIVES BECAUSE ONE OF THE ONES THAT I AGREE 100 PERCENT ON WITH THE JUDGE'S, THE INCREASE IN THE -- NEEDS TO BE COMMON IS TO HAPPEN IF YOU ADD THAT BACK IN THERE, THEN YOU HAVE THAT TO ADD BACK IN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONE WHERE IT IS BOMBED OUT AND ADDITIONAL AREA, THE INPUT I'VE GOTTEN IS WE DON'T NEED TWO OF THE THREE INSETS WE JUST NEED THE ONE AT THE END OF THE T HEAD AND AGAIN THIS IS MY OPINION I'M NOT SURE THE JUDGE OR EVERYONE ELSE IS ON THIS WHEN I'M NOT TRYING TO

START ARGUING. >> YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE I AM I SUPPORT THAT 100 PERCENT

PURE. >> I DID KNOW ABOUT THE INSET. I DIDN'T WANT TO ATTEMPT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH. AND WHAT I DID THEN WAS I HAVE, THIS IS THE TOTAL.

IF YOU TAKE THE HIGH AND HE TOOK EVERYTHING ON THIS LIST WHICH I'M NOT PROPOSING, IT WOULD BE SOMEWHERE IN THE 22 PLUS WOULD LIKE 40 MILLION. 22 TOTAL, IF YOU ADD ALL THE ADDITIVES, NOT PROPOSING THAT. WHAT I TRIED TO START WITH WAS HOW CAN WE GET IT TO A POINT WHERE IT IS IN-KIND PLUS A LITTLE MEANING STILL, STILL GOING TO BE A STRUGGLE WHERE TO FIND THE MONEY BUT STILL TRYING TO ADD SOME THINGS BACK THAT I FELT WERE IMPORTANT TO ADD BACK, THE WIDTH OF THE PIER AS WELL AS THE ONE BUMP OUT AND ONE OF THOSE IS 1.7, AND SO BASICALLY, THAT IS THE NUMBER THAT, MAKE SURE I GOT THIS. OKAY RIGHT, WITH THE ONES UP

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TOP, THAT EQUALS OUT TO THE 27 NUMBER WHICH IS ABOUT WHAT THE JUDGE IS TALKING ABOUT.

MY OPINION IS THAT WE HAVE 18. IT'S AN ITEM OF DISCUSSION, WE TALKED ABOUT A PARKING LOT NOT ON THE BEACH. DO I THINK THAT'S NECESSARY EVENTUALLY, OR DO I THINK -- YES. I THINK IT HAS TO BE DONE IN THIS REALM, PERSONALLY, NO.

I'M TRYING TO GET THIS IN A REASONABLE COST BASED ON WHAT WE'VE GOT.

AND SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN STILL PUT IN EPIC -- OUT HERE BUT WITHIN REASON.

SO THE AREA OF DISCUSSION THAT T I THINK WOULD BE POTENTIAL TO SAY WE COULD DO THIS WOULD BE THE PARKING LOT. THAT NUMBER THE 27.7 WOULD COME DOWN TO ABOUT 26.

THAT STILL IS A PRETTY LARGE NUMBER. I ASKED HIM NOT BECAUSE OF THE DISCREPANCY. THERE MIGHT BE 20 WE SET ASIDE I START 18 I THINK IT'S 18.

>> YOU'RE CORRECT. WE TALK ABOUT DISTRICT FOURS BEING OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE FUNDING ON THE PARKING LOT AND CURRENTLY AN ADDITIONAL $1.1 MILLION AND DISTRICT NUMBER FOUR. THAT'S WHERE WE GET CLOSE TO 20.

18 CAME FROM THE CO 21. >> THAT'S WHAT WE'LL SET ASIDE WAS 18, WE COULD VERY EASILY HOLD OFF ON THAT PARKING LOT FOR NOW. AND POSSIBLY MAYBE DISTRICT 4 WOULD BE A GOOD WAY OF LOOKING AT IT LATER BUT THE NUMBER STILL COMES IN ABOUT 26 WHICH IS STILL 8 MILLION SHORT. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE TO START

IS TO OPEN THIS DISCUSSION. >> YOU GET $6 MILLION FROM THE INSURANCE IS ALMOST 24.

>> THAT WAS MY MOTION. >> THEN WE JUST -- >> TO BE ABLE TO SAY WE NEED TO, THING IS HARD TO FIND THE DOLLARS. AFFECT IS VERY RARE WE GET A CHANCE TO SAY THERE ARE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR DOLLARS. WE COULD DO 7 MILLION FROM INSURANCE. YOU CAN PULL AN ADDITIONAL 2 MILLION FROM CO 21.

YOU CAN PULL A COUPLE OF, BUT AT LEAST $1 MILLION FROM RO DISTRICT 4 AGAIN FOR THE PARKING LOT IF YOU WANTED TO. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO WHEN WE GET TO THE ARPA DISCUSSION THERE IS AN ARBOR OPPORTUNITY THERE. BUT WHAT I DEFINITELY THINK IS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHAT INSURANCE FUNDS SHOULD BE APPROPRIATED AND THE OTHER THING IS IT MAKES NO SENSE NOT TO INCLUDE THE PORTABLE WATER LINE OR REESTABLISH THE SEWAGE LINE THAT WAS BROKEN DURING THE HURRICANE.

THAT'S 550,000 AND I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU GUYS THAT THAT IS A HIGH PRIORITY WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING A NEW PEER. LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET THE RIGHT WATER LINE AND THE RIGHT SEWAGE LINE IN THERE. YOU WILL SEE THOSE AS ALTERNATES WAY DOWN AT THE

BOTTOM. >> AND I DIDN'T PUT THAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALIZE, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS IN AN ALTERNATE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S A GOOD POINT, I

FORGOT TO MENTION. >> A THING IS JUST BECAUSE IT DID MEET THE CRITERIA OF WASN'T

THERE BEFORE? >> IF IT WAS BROKEN DURING YOU THINK --

>> I DON'T KNOW WHY BUT YOU CAN REARRANGE IT I THINK IT SHOULD BE --

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK RIGHT WAS DOWN THERE AND WHAT I WAS MISSING OR MAYBE SCOTT

KNOWS. >> LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU CHIME AND I CAN CLEAN SOME OF THIS UP

FOR YOU. >> JUMP IN. >> IF CONNIE BRINGS UP MY SPREADSHEET, MY SPREADSHEET IS MORE UP-TO-DATE THAN THE ONE YOU'RE USING RIGHT NOW AND IT'S THE SAME FORMAT, WE DID MOVE THE, WHAT YOUR TALK ABOUT THE WATER LINE AND WHEELER MOVED IT UP INTO THE TOP AND WE HAVE IT INTO HIGH AND LOWS. ANOTHER THING ABOUT HIES COMMISSIONERS, THEY NEED TO CONSIDER IS YOUR HIES HAVE CONTINGENCY BUILT IN YOUR LOWS DO NOT HAVE ANY CONTINGENCY BUILT IN AND I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO TAKE ON A PROJECT THIS SIZE WITHOUT CONTINGENCY. AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONE THAT I JUST SENT, IT HAS NUMBERS ARE LITTLE BIT MORE UPDATED. WE ARE AT 18 FIVE 37 VERSUS 17

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NUMBER YOU ARE LOOKING AT COMMISSIONER. BY MOVING SOME OF THE STUFF UP HERE BECAUSE YOU GOTTA HAVE WATER, SEWER LINES, YOU CAN'T DO WITHOUT IT.AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY PUT IT THERE EITHER. I THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF FUNNY. I BACKED OUT THE ENGINEERING FOR THE PARKING LOT.

BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN FUNDED IT'S ALREADY BEEN PAID FOR.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL REMEMBER THAT BUT THAT'S FOR FUNDS.

AND I KIND OF SEE COMMISSIONER, WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THE PARKING LOT.

BUT HERE IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AND WE HAD A GOOD MEETING WITH THE DEALER LAST WEEK. WITH THE SITUATION HERE. THEY WILL NOT GO WITHOUT WITH ANY IMPERVIOUS -- WHILE WE HAD THE MEETING WITH THEM I CANNOT ACCOMPLISH A.D.A. ACCESS WHERE IT WILL END IN THE FUTURE RIGHT WHERE IT'S AT. WE CANNOT AFFORD THE BRIDGE OVER THE BEACH. THAT WAS THE GOLDPLATED IDEAS WHICH WOULD SOLVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS. THE PAID HARDEN SURFACE THAT WILL FIT MY A.D.A. ACCESS, THE ONLY WAY TO GET THERE IS TO BUILD UP THE CURRENT EXISTING ASPHALT BEHIND THE DUNES AND IN BETWEEN WHERE WE HAVE THE BREAK. AND SO I WAS PRESSING THEM, I SHOULD LOOK AS REMITTED CONSIDERABLE CONSIDERATION AT GETTING RID OF THAT PARKING LOT UP THERE. AND WE WILL REPURPOSE THE ONE BEHIND THIS IF WE CAN.

AND WE WANT YOU TO CONSIDER THAT AND LET US BRIDGE THE GAP OUT THERE THAT SOLVES MY A.D.A.

AND THE NEXT THING IT DOES, IT ALSO HELPS WITH ALL MY DELIVERY TRUCK TRAFFIC, SURFACE TRAFFIC.

BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOME KIND OF HARDEN SURFACE TO GET TO.

RIGHT NOW IS A GREAT CASE AND POINT IT IS SO DRY UP THERE THE SAND IS SO FLUFFY.

PEOPLE WILL BE GETTING STUCK ALL DAY LONG. DELIVERY TRUCKS WILL NEVER MAKE

IT UP THERE. >> BUT HOW, TELL ME HOW THE PARKING LOT BEHIND THE DUNES WILL SATISFY AN ADA REQUIREMENT REQUIREMENT OF A PIER ENTRANCE B,200 AWAY.

>> IS NOT BASED ON LIKE THIS BASED ON -- YOU HAVE VARIOUS ADA ACCESSIBLE SPOTS ALL THROUGHOUT THE PARK. AND SO YOUR RED BECOMES YOUR ACCESSIBLE ROUTE.

IN THE PARKING LOT BEHIND THE DUNES, WITH THAT THERE IT GOES TO THE DUNES TO THE RAMP, THAT WILL BE YOUR ACCESSIBLE ROUTE AND AT GROUND LEVEL WE CAN GO ONE FOOT -- AS LONG AS YOU HAVE MORE THAN TWO PERCENT. HERE'S THE BEAUTY. WE CAN LOOK AND ASK FOR A VARIANCE NOW WE ARE OUT OF THE DOJ SITUATION. THEY'RE LOOKING INTO THAT TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME KIND OF VARIANCE. AND WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET THERE WITH THE VARIANCE. WE CAN HAVE THEM NOW THAT WE ARE AT THE DOJ SIDE.

>> I DON'T WANT TO GET TO START TALKING TOO MUCH ABOUT THE PARKING LOT BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT JUDGE, THERE IS ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT IF WE PULL THIS OUT AND LOOK AT IT, SOMEONE ELSE BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE PAID FOR THE PARKING LOT. PROFESSIONAL SERVICES BECAUSE WE FELT IT QUALIFIED. WHAT I THINK FOR THIS DISCUSSION, WE COULD PULL THAT OUT AND SAY, GET -- GET TO THE NUMBER SCOTT, THAT YOU THINK MINUS THE PARKING LOT, IS GOING TO DO THE THINGS THAT I JUST PUT FORWARD. I THINK OUR NUMBERS WILL BE

ABOUT THE SAME. >> IF YOU SEE THE VARIANCE DOWN THERE, YOU CAN TAKE THAT NUMBER AND SUBTRACT THE PARKING LOT. OKAY? BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU.

>> YOU HAVE TO ADD BACK IN.> YOU TO ADD BACK IN THE BUMP OUT, THE FORGET WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS THE DIAMOND SHAPE. RECALL THE MID ANGULAR STRUCTURE.

DID YOU SAY 16? >> 17. >> IS ALMOST A SWAP JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS DISCUSSION. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?

>> I THINK WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS, AT THE END OF THE DAY, SCOTT'S NUMBERS MINUS THE PARKING LOT ARE GOING TO BE ABOUT 26 MILLION. WHAT I BELIEVE MINE WORK.

UNLESS I'M NOT ADDING SOMETHING RIGHT AND I'M DOING THIS QUICK. >> I 20 MILLION BUT I SEE THAT THE REASON I HAD THAT IS BECAUSE, AND I THINK I NEED YOUR OTHER.

YOU HAD THE PARKING LOT. I AM HAPPY WITH CONTINUING OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PARKING

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LOT AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF ANY VARIANCE BECAUSE THE REASON WE GOT THAT COMPLETE RELEASE FROM THE DOJ IS BECAUSE WE MADE A DECISION TO BE A PROGRESSIVE -- AND SO I'M COOL WITH THAT BUT HAVING SAID THAT, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE PARKING LOT ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE. I THINK WITH THE PURPOSE OF TODAY IS CAN WE MAKE REAL DECISIONS, OR CAN HARVEY INSURANCE PROCEEDS YOU NEED AT LEAST $5 MILLION THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE, MY ESTIMATION 10 MILLION TOTAL. TO GET US WHERE THEY NEED TO GO AND IT DOES NOT GET YOU ANYTHING DOESN'T GET YOU ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE AND THERE IS ANOTHER PATH TO GET THERE. BUT I AGREE THAT WE NEED TO

MAKE DECISIONS SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. >> MAKE DECISIONS I LIKE TO KIND OF GIVE US WHAT I HAVE YOU KNOWN I THINK YOU KNOW, IB MAGEE NEEDS $1.2 MILLION.

>> A MILLION . >> THE ONE WE JUST DID.

>> $1,002,500. >> AND THE HILLTOP 4 MILLION. THE PIER SIX BUT IF WE GIVE IT $5 MILLION, COMES AFTER THE 3 MILLION SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GIVE YOU 26 MILLION.

YOU KNOW AND I'M SURE THAT -- >> MAKE THAT MOTION. >> A MILLION

WOULD BE -- I THINK THAT EVERYBODY WOULD GET SOMETHING. >> DID YOU SAY 6 MILLION?

>> FIVE. >> DID YOU WANT TO SAY SIX? >> HE DID AND THEN CHANGED HIS

MIND. >> SIX AND THEN FOUR HILLTOP, MAKE THE MOTION.

THAT'S MY SECOND. >> REALLY DID IT FOR BOB HALL TODAY SO YOU'RE SAYING SIX.

>> HE WANTS TO DO EVERYTHING. DID I NOT POSTED THAT WAY? >> I ONLY PUT ON BOB HALL, I

DON'T KNOW WHAT AND WE ALL SPLIT. >> HOLD ON ONE SECOND COMMISSIONER. I THINK YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

>> I'M AGREEING WITH HIM. >> AND ACID RELATED MATTERS. AND RELATED MATTERS.

I THINK WE ARE OKAY. >> I AM OKAY IF EVERYBODY ELSE IS.

>> COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU. >> I AM ALL RIGHT TOO. >> THAT'S WHERE I'M HEADED.

LOOKING RIGHT AT YOU. >> WAS HE SAYING? >> SIX BOB HALL, FOUR HILLTOP

AND ONE -- >> 14 IB MAGEE . .

-- CAN ASK TERESA O PLEASE, I WILL FIND YOU YOUR OTHER MILLION BUT I DON'T KNOW IF

THERE IS ENOUGH FOR THAT. CAN YOU DO THE MATH ON IT? >> WHERE HE SPENT 689,000 LAST WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO ON PADRE VALLEY HAVE -- I WILL SAY 1.7 OF WHAT WAS AT 12.6 THAT WE HAVE NET? TERESA? SOMEBODY?

>> 11 MILLION. >> AND SAYING THE TOTAL IS 12.6, RIGHT?

>> WE HAVE 20 MILLION SPENT NINE I THINK WE HAVE 11 MILLION LEFT.

>> RIGHT. WHAT DID WE HAVE TO SPEND? WE HAD 12 POINT SOMETHING BECAUSE I'M GOING BACK TO THE TOP. WE HAD 12.6.

>> ARE YOU TALKING INSURANCE DOLLARS? >> YES.

>> PUBLIC FLAT 11? >> AROUND 11 BECAUSE WE GOT 21 SENT OUT THE INSURANCE PROCEEDS TO THE ATTORNEY WE ARE WORKING ON WAS AROUND 9 MILLION SOMETHING.

I THINK TERESA IT'S AROUND 11 MILLION. >> OKAY LET'S SAY 11.

I THOUGHT IT WAS 12. BUT IF IT'S 11 SO BE IT. WE'VE ALREADY SPENT 1.7.

TODAY AND TWO WEEKS AGO. IF IT'S 11, THEN, I THOUGHT IT WAS 12.

>> 11,917,556. >> OKAY 11.9 WE SPENT -- ROUGHLY WE HAVE 10.2.

NOW IF YOU WANT TO DO THE CALCULATIONS IS ON 10.2. HAT'S WHAT WE HAVE NOT DONE

YET. >> LOOKED TERESA, I THINK COMMISSIONER GONZALES WANTS TO SEE WHAT THE RESIDUAL LEFT IS IF YOU DID 62 BOB HALL, 42 HILLTOP AND ADD TWO THINGS WE

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DID TODAY, ONE TODAY AND ONE LAST TIME FOR IB MAGEE . WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE

RESIDUAL. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ENOUGH. >> IF YOU WANT SIX, THREE, ONE

WE HAVE 10.2.> FINE WITH THAT. >> IS PRETTY CLOSE.

SIX, FOUR -- >> ALMOST 12. >> 800,000 SHORT IF YOU DO SIX, FOUR, ONE. BASED ON MY VERY FAST MATH, I GET THAT NEEDS TO BE CHECKED

BUT 11.9-1.7 IS 10.2. >> THAT'S OKAY -- [INAUDIBLE] >> RIGHT, THERE'S OTHER, THERE'S OTHER SOURCES. THE IDEA HERE IS JUST TO THE MATH.

YOU SHOULD TAKE LITERALLY TO MINISTER THE OFFICE AND DO IT QUIETLY WITHOUT US CHIMING IN.

BUT THE IDEA IS, WHAT IS THE RESIDUAL IF YOU DO SIX, FOUR, ONE.

TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WE'VE ALREADY APPROPRIATED TWO TIMES FOUR IB MAGEE AND BRING THAT

BACK. >> -- >> GIVE HER SECOND.ET ME HEAD BACK INTO THE REALM OF -- THAT WILL TAKE US THROUGH SCOTT.

I WAS GOING TO SAY, IS THERE ANY OTHER ITEM THAT YOU NEED TO WEIGH IN ON?>> NO.

I RAN THE NUMBERS USING MY CALCULATOR AND UPDATED SPREADSHEET.

BASICALLY, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO COMPASS RIGHT NOW, BACK TO THE PARKING LOT.

BUT IF YOU ADD IN THE WIDTH AND YOU ADD IN THE 33.2 MILLION FOR BUMP OUTS AND DIAMOND-SHAPED

TEA AT THE END. >> NO, NO WE ARE NOT DOING THE BUMP OUTS WE ARE TAKING OUT.

>> I KNOW. >> IS 1.7 FOR THE END ONE IS WHAT I KNOW THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD YESTERDAY . THE END BUMP OUT IS 1.7.

NOT 3.2. >> BUT WHAT IS A DIAMOND SHAPE? >> HE TOLD ME 1.7 WHEN PEYTON CALLED YESTERDAY AND ASKED HIM WHAT IT WAS BECAUSE I WAS DOING BACK OUT.

1.7. >> THREE POINT, REPRESENTS ALL THREE OF THEM BUT IF YOU JUST

TAKE THAT AND WHEN IT IS 1.7. >> OKAY SO YOU ARE A LOT BETTER OFF THEN.

BECAUSE WITH THAT 3.2, YOU'RE 26,416 YOU WILL BE A LOT BETTER YOU WILL BE AT 24

SOMETHING. >> AGAIN, LET'S DO, DO A CLEANUP OF THE SPREADSHEET AND

GET IT BACK TO US BUT, AND I WANT -- >> THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO KNOW FROM YOU. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO PRIORITIZE HERE ABOVE AND BEYOND GETTING EVERYTHING, WHAT TO GET THAT FROM Y'ALL I CAN CLEAN UP THE SPREADSHEET AND IT WOULD BE SO

MUCH EASIER. >> AND I THINK WE DID IT. >> WHAT WE DID WAS THE IN KIND HI PLUS THE PORTABLE, THE WATERLINE, PLUS THE WIDTH AND +1.7 FOR THE ONE DIAMOND BUMP OUT. THAT'S IT FOR NOW. AND THEN WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE PARKING LOT LATER. BECAUSE I DO WANT TO PHYSICALLY GO OUT THERE WITH YOU IN THE PARKING LOT BECAUSE I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW THIS WILL REALLY TRULY BE LIKE NOT SORT OF ADA ACCESSIBLE BUT I'M WITH THE JUDGE ON THE I DON'T KNOW I WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO USE

THIS THING FULLY. >> CAN GO BACK TO SPREADSHEET HERE FOR SECOND? I WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD THAT THIS NUMBER INCLUDED THE AMAZING RESTROOM FACILITIES CONCESSION AND WHAT YOU SEE IN NUMBER RIGHT THERE

CONCESSION STRUCTURE 5558. >> CALLED ON. >> IS THAT PART OF THE NEW ONE OR NOT? BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT UNCONCERNED YOU LEFT OUT --

>> DOCTOR ONE LEFT OUT. THAT IS IN MINE, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHAT YOU

THINK WE ARE BETTER SCOTT YOU HAVE TO ADD IN THE 1.4. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU. >> ABSOLUTELY. AND AGAIN, WHAT DOES THIS NOT INCLUDE? WHAT IT DOES NOT INCLUDE IS THE OVERPASS THE 3.3 MILLION, WE ARE NOT DOING THAT ONE. AND IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY TWO FANTASTIC FEATURES ON ANOTHER DAY. I WOULD LIKE TO OUTLINE NEXT TIME, HOW I THINK THAT CAN HAPPEN IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. BUT FOR NOW, WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS GETTING JACOBS STARTED TO THE KNOW WHAT WE ARE BUILDING AND HOW WE WILL BE FUNDING IT.

THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. WE ONLY NOTICED IT THIS WAY COMMISSIONER SO I'M NOT READY,

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I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS. >> WE CAN CERTAINLY MAKE A

MOTION -- >> CAN I SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK TO SCOTT?

>> YES, SIR? >> MAKE SURE, WE DON'T WANT ANYONE TO DO ANYTHING -- [INAUDIBLE] WE COMMITTED TO DO THE RIGHT THING. THAT'S WHY THEY FORGIVE US.

SO WE NEED TO DO THE RIGHT THING. >> YES SIR, I UNDERSTAND.

I WAS MAKING Y'ALL AWARE THAT IT COULD BE IF YOU WANTED TO. >> JUDGE, I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO ALLOCATE THE $6 MILLION FROM THE INSURANCE FUND FROM THE PEER AND WHEN SHE

COMES BACK WILL DO THE REST OF IT AS A SEPARATE MOTION. >> I WILL SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> JUDGE REAL QUICK, COMMISSIONER, CAN I REQUEST PAIN IN YOUR OFFICE TO GET THIS SPREADSHEET THAT I HAVE, WHAT I NEED TO CLEAN UP AND GET OFF

HERE? >> ABSOLUTELY, WE DID WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND Y'ALL CAN KEEP

WORKING ON IT THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> SCOTT, HANG WITH ME.

MICHAEL IS SIGNALING IT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT WAY WE CAN EXCUSE YOU HAVE ONE MORE ITEM,

[1. Discuss and consider selection for IFB No. 3194-22 Bob Hall Fishing Pier - Marine Debris Removal, Demolition & Reef Placement.]

REALLY TUMOR BUT ONE IMPORTANT ONE THAT MICHAEL HAS UNDER PURCHASING THAT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF IT IS DISCUSSING CONSIDERING FOR THE CLERK IFB --

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. ON THIS WHEN WE PUT OUT THE BIDS, RECEIVED THREE RESPONSES.

THE, THERE IS NO SELECTION COMMITTEE THIS IS JUST A LOW BID AND I UNDERSTAND FROM SCOTT CROSS THAT THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS HAS ISSUED US A PERMIT TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THE REEF AND SO, WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING, WE ARE RECOMMENDING AWARD TO JM DAVIDSON LTD FOR THE AMOUNT OF $2,681,151. AND ADDED TO BUILD NUMBER ONE

$10,000. >> IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS BID?

>> I HAVE JACOBS ENGINEERING PROVIDED AN ENGINEERING RECOMMENDATION TO SUPPORT THIS

AWARD AND I BELIEVE SCOTT IS ON THE LINE, HE CAN SPEAK. >> FORGIVE ME, IS THAT AMOUNT LESS? DID YOU HAPPEN TO LOOK AT THE SPREADSHEET, IS IT LESS THAN WAS ON THERE? THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER $100,000 SAVINGS.

SCOTT, COULD YOU COMMENT? >> IS THE DEMO ON THIS SPREADSHEET?

>> YES SIR IT WAS ON THE SPREADSHEET A SECOND AGO. I SAW IT.

>> OKAY LET ME LOOK HERE. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> IT IS.

>> THE NUMBERS WHAT'S LESS THEN ON THE SPREADSHEET. >> THE NUMBER ON THE SPREADSHEET WAS 2.971 AND I BELIEVE WITH THE ADDITIVES THAT CAME INTO TOTAL OF WHAT?

>> IF YOU WANT TO ADD THE BOOK TOGETHER WITH THE ONE ADDITIVE IT WILL BE $2,691,151.

>> I TOOK THE BASE BID WAS 2.6. >> THE BASE BID IS 2-681, 151 AND ADDITIVE FOR THE SALVAGE OF

TRUST IS $10,000. >> WHAT I'M SAYING TO COMMISSIONER IS THAT'S ALREADY

A SAVINGS OF $400,000. >> AND WE WILL NEED IT BECAUSE --

>> I WILL MAKE THE SUGGESTION THAT WE PUT THAT TOWARDS THE SAFETY FEATURES OF THE

SUBCOMMITTEE. >> WE ARE STILL SHORT JUDGE WE HAVE 18 MILLION, ONLY ALLOCATED SIX, THUS 24 IT WILL COST 26 MILLION.E ARE STILL 2 MILLION SHORT ON THE PIER.

>> I JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT AGENDA ITEM. BUT I KNOW THAT THE CO 21 HAS LOTS OF ROOM WE ARE ABOUT TO GET TO AN AGENDA ITEM IN A MINUTE WHERE YOU WILL SEE THAT.

>> AND SO, I WOULD ASK BEFORE YOU DO THAT WE FIGURE OUT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE

TWO MAIN IS COMING FROM YET. I'M ALL FOR THOSE. >> I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT

YOU SAVED 400,000. >> AND I'M IN ON THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CO

AND THE COURT IS OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO -- >> I'M WITH YOU WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP MOVING THROUGH BUT YOU ARE A LOT CLOSER, WE ARE A LOT CLOSER THAN WE WERE THIS

MORNING. >> RIGHT. IF THERE SAVINGS HERE IT SHOULD LESSEN WHAT WE ASKED OF THE COURT AND THEN I CAN WORK TOGETHER ON THE SAFETY FEATURES

BUT I HAVE MONEY IS GOING TO PUT TOWARDS IT. >> ALSO WANT TO LEAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY TO COVER IN CASE WE HAVE ANY TURTLE DAYS, SMALL AMOUNT AND ALSO, IF THERE'S ANY

CONTINGENCIES. >> MAYBE YOU CAN MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR US MICHAEL

SO THAT THE NUMBER, WE WILL CHANGE THESE NUMBERS. >> LET'S MAKE A GUESSTIMATE OF

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TURTLE DAYS BUT YOU KNOW YOU WON'T HAVE TURTLE DAYS BECAUSE WE ARE OUTSIDE OF TURTLE SEASON, WILL START THE PROJECT AND OUTSIDE TURTLE NESTING SEASON.

>> RIGHT. >> ARE WE? >> THE LAW PERMITS CHANGE

ORDERS UP TO 25 PERCENT. >> A.THUS WE SAID SCOTT. TURTLE SEASON STARTED TOMORROW.

AND I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS OUTSIDE TURTLE SEASON. >> I WASN'T REAL SURE WHAT THE COURT WANTED. WHAT WE DID WAS, WHEN THEY WERE NOT, THEY BID THIS WITH CONTINGENCIES ON HOW TO PROTECT THE SPECIES IF THEY ARE OPERATING INSIDE THAT WINDOW TO

GET STARTED AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. >> OKAY.

>> IF THE COURT MAKES THE SELECTION TODAY, WE WILL COME BACK ON EITHER THE 13TH OR THE

27TH TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AT THAT POINT. >> OKAY I'M WITH YOU.

EITHER WAY, JUST GIVE US THE RIGHT NUMBER WITH THE RIGHT PROJECTED CONTINGENCIES.> IF WE CAN WORK ON THE NUMBERS. THEN WE WILL KNOW HOW MUCH TO ASK FOR.

>> THE NEXT PIECE. >> ANY SAVINGS WOULD BE AWESOME BECAUSE WE CAN ASK FOR LESS

FROM THE COURT FOR CO 'S. >> KEEP IN MIND I WILL BE APPLYING TO THE GLO FOR SPECIAL MERIT GRANT THAT HAS NO MATCH TO CHARGE EITHER JUST FUNDING GAPS ARE JUST SOME OF THE

ADDITIVES THAT YOU MAY WANT ON THIS PIER. >> GOT STARTED TOMORROW.

>> YES AND WE COULD HAVE AWARD AS EARLY AS AUGUST OF THIS SAME YEAR.

>> WE JUST DON'T WANT TO -- >> I'M JUST SAYING KEEP THAT IN MIND.

>> WE WANT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. AND I KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO.

>> I DON'T THINK THIS, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING WE'RE DOING HURTS US ON ANYTHING ELSE WE ARE DOING AND WE WILL JUST HAVE TO BRING THAT BACK TO YOU GUYS ON ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM.

>> MICHAEL, I CANNOT FIND THE BID BECAUSE I THOUGHT THERE WERE SOME OTHER ADDITIVES.

I THOUGHT IT ADDED UP TO MORE YESTERDAY. I HAVE 70 PAPERS HERE.

>> IT'S ATTACHED ON THE AGENDA ITSELF. >> WHAT ITEM NUMBER?

>> ITEM NUMBER 4D1 SORRY, 3D1. >> OKAY HOLD ON GIVE ME ONE SECOND.

>> THE NUMBERS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR ON THE BOTTOM IS THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION FRATERNAL ACTIVITY HOURLY RATE IS $2800 PER HOUR. THE DAILY RATE THAT WAS BID IS

$20,000 PER DAY. >> WHAT ABOUT THIS UPLAND DISPOSAL SITE?

>> THAT IS A MOOT POINT. ONCE WE GOT PERMISSION TO BUILD A REEF THAT WAS IN CASE WE DIDN'T GET PERMISSION. WE WOULD HAVE TO USE IT INSTEAD OF THAT BID.

>> AND THEN, SORRY WHAT DID YOU SEND 28,000? THAT PROBABLY DOESN'T?

>> IF WE HAVE A TURTLE DAY THAT'S WHAT IT WILL COST US. PER DAY.

>> SALVAGE IS 10 AND DEPENDING ON WHERE WE ARE IN TURTLE COULD BE 28.

THAT WAS THE NUMBER SORRY THE 64 IS MOOT NOW BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU JUST EXPLAINED.

>> YES. >> OKAY I KNEW THERE WAS A NUMBER BECAUSE I LOOKED AT THIS

YESTERDAY. >> WE ARE RECOMMENDING CONDITIONAL SELECTION TO JAN DAVIDSON LIMITED FOR A BASE AMOUNT -- SEVEN AND TRUST $10,000 WITH THE NOTE ON THE UNIT PRICES THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION HALL FRATERNAL ACTIVITY HOURLY, $2800 PER HOUR. TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION HALL FRATERNAL ACTIVITY DAILY AT

$28,000 PER DAY. >> I MAKE THE MOTION AS A POINT OF DISCUSSION.

>> SECOND. >> AGAIN, 100 PERCENT CLEAR ON THIS, EVERYONE IN THE ROOM, TURNING EVERYONE THAT THIS ABSOLUTELY INCLUDES MOVING THE STUFF TO THE REEF AND MAKING

THE REEFS THAT WE ALL WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT. >> YES, THE REEF WAS PART OF THE BASE BID. THAT WAS PUT OUT THAT NUMBER THE 2,000,681,151 INCLUDES DEPOSITING MATERIALS TO BUILD A REEF AND ACCORDING TO SCOTT, WE RECEIVED PERMISSION FROM THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS TO DEPOSIT MATERIALS AT REVOCATION.

>> AND I FORWARDED THAT TO THE COMMISSION AND THE JUDGE, COPY OF THE PERMIT WE GOT.

>> I WANT ALL OF THIS ON THE RECORD. I LIKE ON THE RECORD.

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IT'S GOOD WE ARE MAKING SURE IT'S GOOD IN THE CONTRACT BECAUSE IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS DEMO. THE AMAZING ECOLOGICAL IMPORTANCE AND OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE TO DO SOME GOOD THINGS AND THIS IS TRULY KIND OF MAKING LEMONADE OUT OF LEMONS BECAUSE THIS IS A LEMON BUT WE HAVE DONE THE BEST WE CAN TO MAKE GREAT LEMONADE OUT OF THIS.

THANK YOU TO THE COURT FOR EVERYTHING. >> COMMISSIONER, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SUGGEST WE LEAVE THE BUDGET THAT SCOTT HAS BECAUSE WHEN I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT TURTLE DAYS, IF YOU PUT 10 TOTAL DAYS IS 280,000. I THINK WE WOULD BE BETTER LEAVING THE NUMBER THE WAY IT IS. OKAY?

>> AND IF WE -- >> Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRUST DEMO?

>> AS LONG AS THIS IS WHERE EVERYONE HAS TALKED ABOUT SCOTT WITH GCA AND CCA AND ALL OF THESE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS, AS LONG AS IT COVERS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, I DON'T HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS. >> I VISITED WITH TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE.

THE EXECUTIVE STAFF ON MONDAY AND EVERYBODY IS YOU KNOW, CONCLUDED THAT THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS HAS GIVEN US THE CORRECT LETTER, THE MAPS ALL INDICATE THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM IN THE 160 ACRE RESERVE AND EVERYBODY HAS SIGNED OFF ON IT AND IT IS A COLLABORATION WITH

SEA AND TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE. >> IS THIS THE SAME COMPANY THAT THE LOW BID FIRST TIME? OR THIS ROUND NUMBER TWO NOW THAT WE DID IT AGAIN?

>> THE COURT HAD REJECTED ALL BIDS ON THE LAST GO AROUND. >> WHO GOT THE ORIGINAL BID?

>> NOBODY GOT IT BECAUSE HE REJECTED THE BIDS. >> NO, SOMEBODY GOT IT.

DON'T TELL ME NOBODY GOT IT BECAUSE IT WAS SELECTED. >> THERE WAS A PROCEDURE WHERE THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THE LOW BID ON THE PROJECT AND THAT LOW BID CAME FROM RUSSELL MARINA THE TIME AND IT DID NOT MEAN THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE REEF PLACEMENT AND WE DIDN'T HAVE PERMISSION AT THE TIME. AND SO, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS MADE TO THE COURT. THE COURT CHOSE TO MAKE AN AWARD FOR JM DAVIDSON WHO IS NOT THE LOW BIDDER ON THAT PROJECT. AND A FINDING WAS --

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M STILL VOTING THE WAY I'M SUPPOSED TO

VOTE. >> YOU CAN CONFIDENTLY KNOW THAT THE LOWEST BIDDER THAT PRINTED LOWEST PRICE FOR THE WORK WE ARE DOING IS ONE BEING RECOMMENDED TO THE COURT.

>> ALL RIGHT. HAVING SAID THAT, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> NAY. >> OKAY. >> CAN I GO?

>> SURE. >> THANK YOU ALL! >> OKAY.

SO, CARA I'M SORRY TO BOTHER YOU, ARE WE GOOD THERE? DID YOU HEAR EVERYBODY?

BECAUSE I COULDN'T HEAR. >> THREE ÃTWO. >> THANK YOU.

[19. Discuss and consider approval of termination of Tissue Bank Acknowledgment, Waiver, Release and Indemnity Agreement for Access and Use of Nueces County Medical Examiner’s facilities with South Texas Life Share, L.L.C. and authorize execution of Order Terminating said Agreement.]

NOW WE WILL GO TO, I KNOW YOU BEEN WAITING SO LET ME DO ITEM NUMBER 19.

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF CONTAMINATION OF TISSUE BANK ACKNOWLEDGMENT, WAIVER, RELEASE AND IDENTITY AGREEMENT FOR ACCESS AND USE OF NUECES COUNTY MEDICAL EXAMINER'S FACILITIES WITH SOUTH TEXAS LIFE SHARE LLC AND AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF ORDER TERMINATING SAID AGREEMENT. LET'S OF THE PREDICATE BE LAID A LITTLE BIT AND I KNOW I'VE GOT MS. GAIL GLOVER, WHO ALSO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUE. JENNY, DO YOU WANT TO JUST TELL US, IT'S OKAY MISS GLOVER, GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD AND GET READY AND WE WILL REMIND US WHERE WE ARE IN THE DOCUMENT. THEN WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM

YOU. GO AHEAD. >> WHAT NUMBER IS THE ITEM?

>> THIS IS ITEM 19. >> OKAY. I BELIEVE THESE HAVE TRADITIONALLY BEEN ONE YEAR CONTRACT AND THAT THE PERSON IN CHARGE OF OR THE PERSON IN THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE WHO WAS REPRESENTING THIS CURRENT CONTRACT HAS BEEN TERMINATED.

>> OKAY. >> AND SO, THAT IS IN LINE WITH THIS MOTION.

>> RIGHT SO THIS IS AN ORDER TO TERMINATE. WE HAVE AN OPTION, REAL IS NOT POSTED BUT IF THERE WERE TO BE AN AGENDA ITEM, DO WE HAVE AN OPTION TO COME BACK AND REINSTITUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH THIS COMPANY? IF THAT PERSON IS --

>> I BELIEVE THERE WOULD BE A BIDDING PROCESS. >> A BIDDING PROCESS, FAIR ENOUGH. A PROCUREMENT PROCESS. MICHAEL, CAN YOU CONFIRM? WOULD YOU MIND? THERE'S LIKE A FLY RIGHT HERE. COULD YOU CONFIRM THAT THAT IS

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WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE COURT CHOSE TO ACCEPT THE TERMINATION, THIS IF THE COURT CHOSE TO EXECUTE THIS ORDER, THE NEXT PROCESS BE THAT WE WILL GO OFF RFP?

>> MORE THAN LIKELY YES AND I WILL COME BACK TO THE COURT WITH AN ORDER THAT EFFECTIVE IS

SLIGHTLY CHANGED WE WILL NOTIFY YOU. >> A LITTLE BACKGROUND.

>> IS MY FIRST TIME AT COMMISSIONERS COURT AND DIDN'T FIND OUT ABOUT THIS UNTIL LATE LAST NIGHT. SO I COME TO YOU WITH A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

WHY WE ARE UP FOR TERMINATION, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. WE HAVEN'T BEEN PRESENTED WITH THAT WE DONE ANYTHING WRONG. ANOTHER'S LOT GOING ON AT THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE.

WE STARTED SOUTH TEXAS LIFE SHARE IN 2019. WE DID NOT DO OUR FIRST DONOR UNTIL 2020, SUMMER OF 2020. WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF CHALLENGES DUE TO COVID AND STUFF.

AND NOW WE HAVE THE CHALLENGE OF REASON WE DID START THE COMPANY IS BECAUSE WE ARE THE ONLY LOCAL COMPANY HERE IN SOUTH TEXAS. EVERYBODY ELSE WAS FROM OUT OF TOWN. THAT DOES TISSUE RECOVERY AND ORGAN RECOVERY OF COURSE IS GOVERNED BY OUR OTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITIES. SO THAT'S REALLY NOT A CHOICE.

AS FAR AS TISSUE RECOVERY, WE FELT THERE WAS A NEED AND WE HAD A LOT OF LOCAL SUPPORT, A LOT OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT. WE DID NOT DO THIS ON HER OWN. WE HAD SUPPORT WITH CONSULTANTS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF FDA GUIDELINES AND OTHER GUIDELINES TO FOLLOW.

AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF TISSUE BANKS, WE ARE NOT A MEMBER OF THEM RIGHT NOW WE ARE TOO YOUNG IN OUR COMPANY WE TALK TO THE PRESIDENT OF AATB AND THEY SAID WAIT.

BECAUSE IS VERY EXPENSIVE TO BE A MEMBER. WE FOLLOW EVERY GUIDELINE, WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE HIRE LOCAL PEOPLE AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR GROWTH. I AM ASKING WE COULD POSSIBLY TABLE THIS DECISION.

>> MA'AM, MAY I ASK A QUESTION IF YOU DON'T MIND? >> COMMISSIONER TREDIDN'T WE GO

THROUGH THIS, WE DISCUSSED THIS, RIGHT? >> YES I BELIEVE AND I COULD BE MISTAKEN BUT I BELIEVE THE COURT VOTED BUT D BUT DID NOT SIGN THE ACTUAL ORDER

TERMINATING AND THAT'S WHAT THIS T THIS IS FOR. >> OUT THAT WE DISCUSSED

TERMINATING, DID WE? >> WE DID BUT I WAS, AND THIS MIGHT HELP YOU SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION. I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS A CONTRACT THAT HAD ALREADY PASSED ITS TIME AND WE NEEDED TO EITHER REAUTHORIZE THIS BUT THIS ONE WAS NO LONGER IN FULL

FORCE AND EFFECT. IS THAT NOT THE CASE? >> THIS WAS NOT ACTUALLY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS WAS NOT BROUGHT TO COURT ORIGINALLY.

>> I'M SORRY THAT'S RIGHT. >> IT'S NOT EVEN A CONTRACT THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE

VOTED ON. >> IS A CONTRACT I BELIEVE WITH AN EMPLOYEE OR EMPLOYER OR

FORMER EMPLOYEE OF THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE. >> MAY JUST BE A PROCESS DEFICIENCY JIMINY LIGHT TO SHED AT, HOW THE CONTRACT INITIATED? YES. I'VE WORKED WITH THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE ALL OF MY CAREER IN THE TISSUE INDUSTRY, WHICH IS BEEN ALMOST 30 YEARS. IT IS NOT A CONTRACT FROM WHAT

I UNDERSTAND, IT IS A DESIGNATION. >> OKAY.

>> I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. >> DO YOU PAY A MEMBERSHIP OR

SOMETHING TO SOMEBODY OR WHAT? >> EXCUSE ME? >> DO YOU PAY A MEMBERSHIP TO

BE SOMEBODY TO BE PART OF -- >> NO. >> I THINK THERE'S A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT THE CONTRACT EVER WENT TO THE PROPER PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

THE JUDGE THINK WAS ASKING, CAN YOU SHED LIGHT ON HOW DID THE CONTRACT COME ABOUT?

>> I SIGNED THE DESIGNATION WITH -- AT THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE.

>> HOW DID THE CONTRACT COME INTO PLAY? DID IT COME BEFORE THE

COMMISSIONERS COURT, DO YOU REMEMBER? >> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.

I KNOW THAT THIS IS MY FIRST TIME AT COMMISSIONERS COURT. >> I THINK MAYBE THE BEST THING TO DO, WE COULD TABLE IT AND HAVE YOU WORK WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS OFFICE AND OUR

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ADMINISTRATOR'S OFFICE. HERE'S WHAT I THINK WE KNOW. WE KNOW THE SERVICE YOU PROVIDE INCREDIBLY VALUABLE. I LEARNED TODAY THAT YOU ARE THE ONLY LOCAL YOU KNOW DESIGNEE OF THIS IMPORTANT TISSUE RECOVERY. WE KNOW THAT YOU COULD ONLY WORK WITH A MEDICAL EXAMINER IN ORDER TO DO THIS WORK. AND REALLY HAVE ONE MEDICAL EXAMINER. FOR MANY MANY COUNTIES. SO I THINK THE IDEA HERE IS JUST THAT WE HAVE A CONTRACT AND THAT WE LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS AND THE EMPLOYEES.

THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT MAY BE A POTENTIAL CONFLICT THAT THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO IS REPRESENTING YOUR COMPANY, WHO ALSO WORKED AT THE OFFICE. MAYBE IT IS NOT EVEN A CONFLICT. I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WORK WITH YOU AND HAVE YOU BE

THE REPRESENTATIVE OF, IS IT SOUTH TEXAS -- >> SOUTH TEXAS LIFE SHARE.

>> SOUTH TEXAS LIFE SHARE. I THINK THE DESIRE AS I RECALL THE CONVERSATION THAT THIS WAS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS DESIGNATION, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE CORRECTLY AND WE KNOW WHO WE ARE WORKING WITH AND THAT'S REALLY THE BOTTOM LINE I THINK.

>> CAN BE MOVED TO TABLE THIS AND BRING IT BACK? >> I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.

BUT I THINK WHAT JENNY WAS WANTING WAS JUST A CLEAN BREAK SO SHE CAN START BRAND-NEW.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD HURT YOUR BUSINESS AT ALL. BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING IT'S NOT

A CONTRACT YOU SAY I'M JUST A DESIGNEE, WE ARE THE RECIPIENT. >> I HAVE IT IN WRITING.

THE DESIGNATION IS IN WRITING. >> YES, THE DESIGNATION HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE COURT.

I BELIEVE IT'S A ONE-PAGE COPY OF A COPY OF A COPY. IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY TERMS OF

YOU KNOW -- >> HERE'S THE THING. WE MEET AGAIN APRIL 13 TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. I THINK IF YOU WILL WORK WITH OUR COUNTY ATTORNEYS OFFICE, AND IF THERE IS ANY OTHER YOU KNOW, YOU SAID YOU ARE, KNOW THAT YOU ARE A YOUNG COMPANY BUT HE SAID THERE IS AN ASSOCIATION. WHAT WE NEED HERE, IS JUST THE

CLARITY AND YOU KNOW -- >> I CAN PROVIDE WHO WE WORK WITH, WHO SUPPORTS US, BAYLOR COLLEGE OF MEDICINE HOUSTON, THEY SUPPORT US, WE'VE HAD JUST A TREMENDOUS OUTPOURING OF HELP

BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITY NEEDED THIS SO BADLY. >> SURE.

ALL WE NEED TO DO IS PAPER AND DOCUMENT IT CORRECTLY. WHAT WE CAN DO IS TERMINATE WHAT'S IN EXISTENCE RIGHT NOW WITH THE PROMISE. MAKING IT SUBJECT TO THE DIRECTION THAT YOU IN TWO WEEKS WILL BE BACK HERE. WITH A CONTRACT THAT WE CAN APPROVE AT LEAST HAVE THE COURT CONSIDER APPROVAL. SO THAT WE CAN GET TO THIS GOOD WORK. I WOULD SUGGEST THE REFERENCE LETTERS WOULD BE GREAT.

IT'S JUST MAKE EVERYBODY FEEL GOOD THAT THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE BEST PRACTICES.

>> YES, I TOTALLY AGREE AND I AM PROUD TO PRESENT ALL OF THE SUPPORT WE'VE HAD.

>> WONDERFUL. I THINK THAT'S GREAT AND WILL MAKE CERTAIN EVEN THOUGH SHE'S BUSY RIGHT NOW, HER FIRST ASSISTANT IS SITTING RIGHT HERE.

HE CAN EXCHANGE INFORMATION WITH YOU AND THAT WOULD BE MY DIRECTIVE.

I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO DO THE MINISTERIAL PART OF THE AUTHORIZATION TO EXECUTE THE ORDER. AND SUBJECT TO PLEASE WORK WITH HER TO BRING BACK A DOCUMENT THAT WOULD FACILITATE THIS TISSUE BANK EXISTING WITH OUR MEDICAL EXAMINER FOR OUR FUTURE. BUT IN A WAY THAT WITH THE CAVE AND THE DIRECTIVE, ALL IN

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FAVOR? >> SECOND. >> I MOTIONED.

>> THERE WAS NO SECOND. >> SECOND. >> I WILL REITERATE JUDGE, I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH THEM ALSO AND FIND OUT WHATEVER THE BEST AVENUE IS.

IF IT'S A MEDICAL SERVICE IT IS EXEMPT I WILL COME BACK WITH THAT IN THE ORDER.

IF IT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO PROVIDE AS A SOLE SOURCE I WILL WORK WITH HER TO GET

DOCUMENTATION. >> I BELIEVE IT WOULD MEET THE QUALIFICATION MEDICAL SERVICES.

>> I BELIEVE IT WOULD TOO. >> MS. GLOVER, THIS IS MICHAEL ROBINSON.

HE TAKES CARE CONTRACTS TO THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT. SO YOU ALL CAN ALSO WORK TOGETHER ONCE HE UNDERSTANDS MORE BACKGROUND. YES SIR?

>> I HAVE TWO REALLY EXPENSIVE LAWYERS HAVE BEEN SITTING HERE THAT WE ARE PAYING.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE DOING. >> WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GOING TO THE AGENDA AND I'M READY TO GET THERE. AS YOU KNOW WE WENT BACK TO BOB HALL PIER. I'M READY TO DO BUT I LIKE TO TAKE A 15 MINUTE BATHROOM BREAK. NONE OF US HEAVY AND, NONE OF US HAVE HAD ANY BATHROOM BREAK

AT ALL. >> I JUST ASK, >> IS NOT ONLY TO COVER HE

ASKED HIM TODAY. >> WHO? >> MR. -- NOT BILLING APPEAR.

>> WHAT ARE WE DOING? >> I WANT TO GET TO EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH HER.

IF YOU LIKE, WE CAN RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION OF THAT IS AMENABLE.

THEN WE TAKE CARE OF EVERYBODY. >> WHAT ITEM? >> SHE'S HERE IN THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S ITEMS. SO THAT IS ITEM NUMBER, GIVE ME A SECOND.

IT'S COMING UP. ITEM 20. >> ARE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TIME TO DO 20? I HAVE TO ASK THAT BECAUSE IT COULD GO FOREVER.

LIKE EVER! >> I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. HOW ABOUT IF I RECESS US INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, IT'S A NICE BREAK MOMENT. THEN THAT WAY WE CAN TAKE THE

BREAK BUT BE PRODUCTIVE WHILE WE ARE IN THE BREAK. >> CAN I JUST ASK, I DIDN'T PUT

THIS ONE ON. >> I DID NOT EITHER. >> I'M ASKING IF THERE'S A WAY

THAT WE COULD, THAT WILL TAKE HOURS IF WE GO INTO IT NOW. >> ALRIGHT LET'S TABLE IT.

YOU SAVED US MAYBE AN HOUR. >> MORE THAN THAT. >> IS THERE A SECOND TO THE

MOTION? >> IS THAT YOUR MOTION? >> MOTION.

>> IS THERE A SECOND? >> TABLE IT FOR NOW OR FOR NEXT MEETING OR WHAT?

>> TABLE IT FOR NOW. I'M SORRY. WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER MEETING.

>> APRIL 13. APRIL 13. OKAY I WILL SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? TABLE 13 FOR THE CLARK. THAT IS DONE ON 20.

JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAN, 21, THERE IS NO ACCRUAL OF OVERTIME SO THAT WILL I WILL PASS ON.

AT THIS TIME I CAN DOUBLE CHEC . ALL RIGHT, I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO ACCOMMODATE ONE MORE ITEM BEFORE WE BREAK. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

[6. Discuss and consider approval of Second Amendment to Work Authorization No. 1 with Lockwood, Andrews, and Newnam (LAN), Inc. providing for re-allocation of previously committed funds.]

>> SIX. >> SO SORRY. SIX.

OKAY I WAS BEING A PARROT, I LISTEN. ITEM 6. THEN WE WILL TAKE THE

BREAK. >> IS THAT GOING TO TAKE A WHILE?

>> I'M JUST, -- >> I KNOW YOU NEED A BREAK. >> I DO NEED A BREAK BUT.

I'LL TAKE ITEM 6. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF SECONDMENT TO WORK AUTHORIZATION NUMBER ONE WITH LOCKWOOD, ANDREWS AND NEWNAM, PROVIDING RELOCATION FOR PREVIOUSLY COMMITTED FUNDS.

THERE'S A GOOD SPREADSHEET WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDED. IF WE COULD ASK CONNIE TO BRING UP THE SPREADSHEET. THERE ARE THREE PROJECTS THAT WE WILL HAVE OUTLINED.

TWO OF THEM ONE OF THEM IS ROADS, THE OTHER IS ME THE OTHERS AIRPORT, WE WILL JUST WAIT FOR IT. GIVE IT ONE SECOND HERE AND IT WILL POP UP.

IS THAT RIGHT? I'M SORRY. >> THUS ANOTHER AGENDA.

>> SORRY, THIS IS ONE OF THE ANIMAL CARE THEN. >> YES MA'AM.

>> MY APOLOGIES. FORGET WHAT I SAID ABOUT THE SPREADSHEET.

WE WILL GET TO IT THOUGH. >> YES MA'AM. >> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, --

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TO PRESENT THE AMENDMENT TO WORK, THE SECOND AMENDMENT. WORK AUTHORIZATION NUMBER ONE.

I WILL ALLOW THEM TO EXPLAIN THE AMENDMENT. >> GREAT.

WILL BE KYLE OR JP LEADING TODAY? >> JP.

>> I WILL JUMP IN. >> THANKS KAGA HAD. >> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, THIS REQUEST COMES AT THE UPDATE TO THE OVERALL PROJECT COST, THE ANIMAL CARE FACILITY BACK IN THE NEWNAM PUBLICATION OF THE CIP, THE PLAN WAS TO SIMPLY EXPAND THE EXISTING ANIMAL CARE FACILITY. AND THAT WAS ABOUT $1 MILLION JOB, OUR FEE AT THE TIME WAS BASED ON THAT MILLION DOLLAR EFFORT SINCE THE TIME AND AFTER THE 2021 CIP PUBLICATION, THE PROJECT COST HAS BEEN ADJUSTED TO $5.4 MILLION PROJECT. OUR FEE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE FOR PROGRAM MANAGEMENT IS ADJUSTED ACCORDINGLY TO THAT.

THE PERCENTAGES AMOUNT IS THE SAME ACTUALLY A LITTLE LESS. BUT THE OVERALL PROJECT SCOPE AND BUDGET HAS BEEN EXPANDED SO WE ARE REQUESTING ADDITIONAL FEE FOR THAT.T IS A NO COST FEE. BASED ON LIVING MONIES OVER FROM A NONFUNCTIONING PROJECT

RIGHT NOW TO COVER THIS. >> THE COURT VOTED TO PUT A HOLD ON ALL THE ANIMAL CARE FACILITY UNTIL WE HAVE FURTHER PRESENTATION FROM

50 PERCENT, 60 PERCENT. >> $80,000 HAS BEEN SPENT ON PROGRAM MANAGEMENT, TOTAL OF $221,000 HAS BEEN COMMITTED TO PROGRAM MANAGEMENT WITH THIS REQUESTED CHANGE ORDER.

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>> AND SO YOU KNOW THERE HAS BEEN A TON OF WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE SO WE DO NEED TO OBVIOUSLY PUT THAT ON AN AGENDA ITEM. AND GET PUBLIC WORKS, THEY BEEN ON THE MEETINGS ALONG WITH COMMISSIONER MAREZ AND JUAN RAMIREZ AND THEIR DETAILED DESIGNS THAT HAVE BEEN PRODUCED AND THERE ARE SOME DISCUSSIONS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT FIRST OF ALL, THE 5.3 OR FOUR THAT HAS BEEN SPECKED DOES INCLUDE A WING THAT COULD BE ADDITIVE AND IF OTHER JURISDICTIONS WANTED TO BE PART OF THAT. AND IF YOU RECALL, WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING THOSE JURISDICTIONS BEING CONSULTED AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANTED TO ADD IN AND SO THAT NUMBER IS NOT A NUMBER THAT IS A FINAL NUMBER. IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER THE COURT CHOOSES TO ADD THAT ADDITIVE OR NOT. SO DON'T GET ME WRONG YOU'RE STILL SHORT. AT LEAST BY $1 MILLION OR SO. BUT NO DIFFERENT THAN A PROJECT EARLIER TODAY THAT WAS SHORT CALLED BOB HALL PIER. HAVING A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND TIME AND EFFORT AND REAL NEED IN THE COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS ANIMAL CARE.

I LIKE TO SEE AN AGENDA BY NEXT TIME. >> ALLOCATED TO A 2 MILLY NOTES 5.4 MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT AND BEFORE I'M PRETTY SURE I MADE THE MOTION TO CEASE ALL ACTIVITY UNTIL HE BROUGHT THAT BACK. I'M PRETTY DARN SURE THAT WILL REFLECT THAT WE WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE DOING ANYTHING UNTIL HE BROUGHT IT BACK TO

COURT AND -- >> BUT YOU CAN SEE THE COMMISSIONERS PROJECT AND HE'S BEEN RUNNING POINT ON AND YOU'RE NOT OBJECTING THE FACT HE'S BEEN HAVING MEETINGS ON A

PROJECT AND HE'S PRECINCT THAT AFFECTS EVERYBODY, RIGHT? >> I'M OBJECTING IF WE SHOULD'VE COME BACK AND DONE THAT. I WILL SUPPORT THE COMMISSIONER BUT I BELIEVE WE HAVE NOT FOLLOWED I MIGHT BE WRONG BUT I THINK WE'VE NOT FOLLOWED WITH THE MOTION AND THE VOTE OF THE COURT WAS ELECTED TO NOT SPEND ANY MORE MONEY.

NOW I'M HEARING ABOUT THIS $5.4 MILLION PROJECT WE HAVE TWO OR 3 MILLION SET ASIDE FOR.

AND THEY WANT MORE MONEY WHEN I THINK WE HAVE TO PUT BACK ON THE AGENDA AND PROPERLY NOTICE

AND CLARIFY. >> LET'S DO THAT. >> DO NEED ANIMAL CARE AND ENHANCE?URE DO LIKE THE ORIGINAL EXPENDITURE BUT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ANOTHER PLAN THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF YOU AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING ABOUT IT. I JUST DON'T THINK --

>> TO GET CLARIFICATION, TO TABLE UNTIL APRIL 13. >> SECOND PEER.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

YES MA'AM? >> RETITLE IT IN 20 WE HAVE TWO AGENDA AND EXECUTIVE.

[INAUDIBLE] >> >> IN OTHER WORDS COMMISSIONER, WE TABLED ITEM 20, THERE ARE TWO CORRESPONDING ITEMS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, LETTERS C AND D. I'M SORRY, NOT C, D AND E.I WILL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT.

>> I ALSO GUESS I NEED TO, SINCE I DID ONE RELATED I NEED TO ALSO MOTION TABLE F. I JUST

ASSUME THEY ARE RELATED I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION. >> GO AHEAD AND DO IT.

>> YES MA'AM. >> SECOND PEER. >> ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY. AND THAT GETS US TO THE BREAK. AND --

>>. [INAUDIBLE] >> HE CAN GIVE IT TO US.

WHAT I'M GOING TO DO TO GET US TO THE NEXT STEP, I WILL TELL THE CLERK IT IS 2:59 PM, AND AT IT IS 2:59 PM AND THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, JUST TO FINISH UP WHAT WE'VE GOT. AND THAT WAY WE CAN ADDRESS -- ALRIGHT SO WE'VE GOT, I'M SORRY

I'M NOT -- >> JUDGE, DO YOU WANT TO DO -- >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE

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SAYING. YES, BUT I STILL HAVE TIME, THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE TO SIT OUT FOR ONE SO DO YOU WANT TO START ON THAT? >> OKAY.

[4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.]

GET A BIGGER LUNCH BREAK THAT WAY. >> TELL ME WHEN YOU ARE READY

AND DONE WITH THAT ONE. >> AGAIN, I'M GIVING NOTICE AT 2:59 PM I'M GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. I AM DOING SO IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 551 THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. WITH AUTHORITY AS AN OFFICER RIGHT NOW 551071, -- COMMISSIONERS COURT RULED EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH ATTORNEYS RELATING TO MATTERS REGARDING LITIGATION, REAL PROPERTY GIFTS, PERSONAL MATTERS, TERMINATION, COUNTY ADVISORY BODY, SECURITY DEVICES, INDOOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS, ANY OTHER MATTERS THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION UPON COMPLETION OF EXECUTIVE SESSION WE MAY COME OUT AND OPEN SESSION TAKE ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION AS NE

>> ALL RIGHT 5:27 PM BACK ON THE RECORD AND OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AND IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, THERE WERE SEVERAL ITEMS TO CONSULT WITH OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY.

WE DO HAVE A FEW ACTION ITEMS AND THE FIRST ONE PERTAINS TO ITEM A, THE CITY OF PORT

[A. Consult with County Attorney regarding City of Port Aransas Resolution No. 2022-R11, (passed March 17, 2022) offering to purchase real property located at 430 N. Alister St., in Port Aransas, Texas, and related matters.]

ARANSAS RESOLUTION. WE HAVE A MOTION. QUICK MOTION TO DIRECT COUNTY ATTORNEY TO CONTINUE NEGOTIATION WITH THE CITY OF PORT CDBG OBTAIN A HIGHER SALES

PRICE THAN OFFERED. >> SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OKAY. AND I BELIEVE THAT IS IT FOR THAT. COMING BACK INTO REGULAR AGENDA, WE HAVE LEFT OFF SEVERAL ITEMS THAT WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK TO. AND ONE OF IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROPRIATE MOTION FOR SETTLEMENT FUNDS TO RELATED MATTERS TERESA, HELPED US WHILE WE WERE WORKING ON PROVIDING US ALLOCATION. YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU.

THE TOTAL WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE DONE SO FAR, LEAVES $225,306 TO BE REALLOCATED TO THE BUILDING AT THIS TIME, THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO GET TO THE DOLLARS THAT YOU SEEK.

BUT I THINK FOR THE PURPOSES OF OUR MOTION, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE $4 MILLION TOWARDS

HILLTOP? >> MOVED. >> I WILL SECOND.

COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, I WILL SECOND FOR HIM, I KNOW HE WILL BE HAPPY ABOUT IT.

UNLESS YOU THINK I SHOULD WAIT? LET ME WAIT ON THEM SO HE KNOWS.

WHILE YOU'RE GONE WE WERE GIVING AWAY MONEY. I WILL REDO IT AS IF YOU DID NOT, YOU'VE NEVER LEFT. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROPRIATE $4 MILLION TO

HILLTOP, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROPRIATE $4 MILLION. >> I WILL SECOND.

>> OKAY. [LAUGHTER] SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO SMILE! ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? BY THE WAY THIS FOR HURRICANE HARVEY INSURANCE SETTLEMENT FUNDS. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THAT LEAVES US WITH $225,306 AND THERE WAS A SUGGESTION, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, THAT THE REMAINDER GO TOWARDS THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE BUILDING AND I WILL STYLE IT THAT WAY.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION? >> MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY SO THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT

AGENDA ITEM. THAT IS ITEM NUMBER 11. >> DO WE APPROVE THE FOLLOWING

-- 500,000 -- [INAUDIBLE] >> I NEED AN AGENDA ITEM FOR THAT.

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IT JUST DOES NOT FIT ON 11. LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

IT DOES NOT FIT ON ITEM NUMBER 11. ITEM 11 WAS ONLY HURRICANE HARVEY INSURANCE SETTLEMENT FUNDS. AND RELATED MATTERS.

IN OTHER WORDS TO REBUILD BOB HALL PIER. LET ME SEE IF ANOTHER ITEM CAN SCOOP IT UP SHOULD FEEL GOOD TO SEE THAT THERE IS A PATHWAY FORWARD AND THAT'S WHAT THIS SPREADSHEET IS

SHOWING YOU. TERESA, DID YOU WANT TO ADD? >> WE COULD RELOCATE AS CAPITOL

PROJECT WITH THE CHANGE ORDER NEXT TIME ON THE 13TH. >> OKAY THANK YOU TERESA FOR THAT. AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 12, IT ALMOST IS A REPEAT OF ITEM 11.

IT SAYS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER FINALIZING THE TOTAL FUNDS ASSIGNED FROM HURRICANE HARVEY INSURANCE SETTLEMENT FUNDS. I FEEL LIKE WE'VE DONE THAT AND.

>> I THINK THE ONLY THING WE DID NOT WAS AUTHORIZING IFB TO REBUILD THE PIER. SINCE WE

DON'T HAVE THE FULL AMOUNT OF FUNDING YET, IT WOULD MAKE -- >> AND A SCOTT CROSS WAS TO WEIGH IN ON THE PROCUREMENT BECAUSE WHEN IT GOES OVER A CERTAIN COMPLEXITY, THEY WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THE TYPE OF PROCUREMENTS MAYBE YOU ALL CAN VISIT AS WELL.

FOR NEXT TIME.THERE MIGHT BE SOME PIECES THAT COULD BE IFB BUT OTHERS WOULD BE BEST VALUE.

WHEN WE MAKE THAT FOR NEXT TIME. >> MAY BE TWO TIMES.

BUT -- >> THAT'S FINE, TOO TIMES. WHATEVER IT TAKES.

I THINK 11 AND 12, CAROL, ARE RELATED. ON THE IFB IT WILL BE A TABLE.

WE NOT REALLY ACTING ON THE IFB PIECE OF IT, JUST REACTING TO THE HURRICANE HARVEY INSURANCE SETTLEMENT FUNDS TO REBUILD BOB HALL PIER WE'VE DONE THAT TODAY.

>> CURRENTLY TABLE THAT THE LAST ONE. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

TABLE THAT TO THE 27TH. >> JUST KNOW THE HALF OF IT GOT DONE TODAY.

>> WE ARE ABOUT TO GET HERE. 11, WE DID JUST A MOMENT AGO. WE DID.

ON ITEM 12, I'M SINGING A SOMEWHAT OF A REPEAT BECAUSE IT WAS FOCUSED ON BOB HALL PIER, WE'VE DONE THAT. IN THE LATTER PART OF IT WE WILL TACKLE AT THE END OF

APRIL, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY SAYS PEER. >> MOVE ITEM 12.

>> TO THE EXTENT IT DEALS WITH PROCUREMENT UNTIL APRIL 30. >> APRIL 30 AND I WANT TO PUT

ON THERE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. >> WOULD HOPE FOR TODAY WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THE FULL AMOUNT WE DIDN'T SERVER CANNOT FINISH THIS AGENDA ITEM UNTIL THE REST OF

THE MONEY GETS ALLOCATED. >> AND FAIRNESS IS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T NOTICE IT FOR OTHER

THINGS. >> I'M FINE. WE HAVE TO PUT THE OTHER ITEM

ON THERE. >> I'M SORRY. WHATEVER THE LAST MEETING IS.

>> 27. >> 27, OKAY. >> APRIL 27.

>> ALL RIGHT. ALSO COMMISSIONERS, THAT JUST TO GIVE US A NUMBER BECAUSE I BET WE MIGHT BE ASKED BY THE MEDIA WHAT IS THE NEW NUMBER. TERESA, OUR NEW NUMBER IS 18 +6. ANYTHING ELSE? WE NEED MORE.

>> JUST, I WANTED TO MAKE CERTAIN THERE IS MEDIA IN THE ROOM, BOB HALL PIER IS A BIG ITEM COULD REMOTE FROM 18 TO 24 AND WE ARE STILL DIALING FOR DOLLARS NEXT AGENDA WE WILL

HAVE OPPORTUNITIES PEER. >> JUDGE, I NEED A SECOND PAIR. >> I'M SORRY ALL IN FAVOR?

[13. Discuss and consider status of Policies and Procedures for Wetlands Mitigation as required pursuant to engagement letter with Baker Wotring LLP executed January 22, 2020, and related matters. ]

OKAY NOW MOVED TO ITEM 13. >> THE 27TH, KARA. I DIDN'T SAY THAT, MOTION

TABLED UNTIL THEN. >> I HAVE 13 AND 14 ON THE AGENDA.

>> AND 21. >> 21 WE PASSED ON IT THERE IS NOTHING.

ONCE WE FINISH 13 AND 14 WE WILL MOVE STRAIGHT TO YOU, OKAY? ONE, TWO AND THREE. AND FIVE. THAT WILL BE COMPLETE.

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ON ITEM 13. THIS IS THE WETLANDS MITIGATION REQUIRED, PURSUANT TO THE ENGAGEMENT LETTER BY BAKER WOTRING LLP, THIS ITEM 13 EXECUTED IN 2020 RELATED MATTERS. AND WITH US IS ERNEST WOTRING. YOU'LL NEED TO GO TO THE DAIS

AND USE THE MICROPHONE. >> IS IT WORKING? >> IT WAS JUST FOR SOCIAL

DISTANCING. >> THAT'S OKAY HE IS FINE. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY?

>> ERNEST, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS REALLY ON THE PROCESS. WHEN WE HIRED YOUR FIRM, MY RECOLLECTION MAY NOT BE ALL OF IT, BUT MY RECOLLECTION WAS WITH THE TIME WERE TALKING ABOUT A COUNTYWIDE MITIGATION BANK AND THAT WAS SOMETHING WE AS A COUNTY WANTED TO DO ON A COUNTYWIDE BASIS, WE HAVE REVENUE SOURCES AND SO FORTH. I BELIEVE AND MAYBE WE HIRED YOU FOR OTHER THINGS TOO BUT I BELIEVE WE HIRED YOU PRIMARILY AT THAT POINT FOR THAT PURPOSE.

IS THAT CORRECT? OR DID WE AS A COURT HIRE YOU FOR OTHER THINGS AS WELL THAT

YOU CAN TELL ME. >> LET ME, -- >> TO THE COURT HIRE YOU?

>> CERTAINLY, THE COURT HIRED ME AND THREE TENT LETTER, I BELIEVE IT'S TERMS ARE OPEN.

GETTING INTO THE DETAILS OF WHAT I WAS ASKED TO DO, IS GOING TO GET INTO ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED MEDICATIONS AND PUTS ME IN A AWKWARD SPOT TO RESPOND TO THE

QUESTIONS. >> WITHOUT BEING SPECIFIC, DID YOU DO OTHER THINGS OUTSIDE OF

THE SCOPE OF MITIGATION BANK THAT WE HIRED YOU TO DO? >> I BELIEVE EVERYTHING WE DID WAS WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE RETENTION LETTER AND INVOLVED THE ISSUES IDENTIFIED IN

RETENTION LETTER. >> OKAY AND WAS A COURT ORDER ALL THE THINGS YOU ARE DOING

ALL FOR THE COURT? >> I BELIEVE SO. >> I BELIEVE SO.

>> YOUR BELIEF WOULD BE BASED ON WHAT? BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING YOU ARE WORKING ON BESIDES MITIGATION. LET ME ASK IT THAT WAY.

I WAS NOT AWARE THAT YOU ARE WORKING ON ANYTHING WITHIN THE MITIGATION BANK FOR THE COUNTY.

SO I WASN'T OUT ENOUGH OTHER COMMISSIONERS WERE. >> ANSWER TO THE QUESTION WOULD REQUIRE ME TO REVEAL ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED MEDICATIONS.

>> NOT WITH ME THOUGH I DIDN'T HAVE ANY WITH YOU. >> WITH MEMBERS, WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COUNTY THAT WOULD QUALIFY AS ATTORNEY CLIENT.

>> OKAY SO, WHEN YOU DID THIS WORK, WE JUST GOT A DRAFT TODAY BUT MY CONCERN IS, WHICH IS ALSO OPEN. WE GOT A LARGE BILL, WE GOT BILLED, I CAN'T MEMBER HOW MUCH PRIOR TO THE LATEST HIRING WAS BUT DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT YOU BILLED THE COUNTY FOR DOLLAR

WISE BEFORE ALL THIS LATEST STUFF STARTED. >> I DO BELIEVE I SENT ONE INVOICE AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT AMOUNT OF COURSE I CAN HAVE THAT TO THE COURT.

>> THAT WAS HOW MUCH? >> I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS.

AND THEY DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK. >> THAT'S FAIR.

COUNTYWIDE, IS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS YOU THINK WE HIRED YOU FOR?

>> THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS IDENTIFIED IN THE LETTER AND AND GIVEN THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE EVENTS, GIVEN THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE AND HOW BROAD IT IS, BASICALLY, ANY

INFORMATION YOU HAVE ABOUT THIS IS COVERED BY THAT PRIVILEGE. >> OKAY SO THEN, NOT ON THE PROCESS PART OF IT. ANOTHER TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

THERE IS NO SECRET THAT WE HIRED YOU FOR SOMETHING. HERE'S NO SECRET THAT YOU PAID, THAT WE PAID OR YOU BILLED US FOR SOMETHING, THAT'S OPEN RECORD.

THERE IS NO ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE THERE. SO CERTAINLY, ANYTHING IN THERE THAT COULD BE REDACTED THAT SAID AS VICE SO AND SO ABOUT THIS.

I GET THAT. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET TO THE MITIGATION STUFF.E DID HIRE YOU FOR THAT. SO IN THE BILLS, WAS THERE WORK RELATED TO ADVISING US NOT THE ADVICE YOU GAVE, BUT ADVISING US ON THE MITIGATION BANK?

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BECAUSE I'M JUST TRYING, I DON'T REMEMBER IT IS WHAT I'M GOING ON.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GOING ON. I DON'T REMEMBER GETTING ANYTHING TODAY EXCEPT TODAY, THAT WE DAY ON THE PROS AND CONS OF A MITIGATION BANK. WAS THERE SOMETHING ALSO SENT? WAS THERE A LOT OF WORK DONE BACK THEN THAT WE GOT A BILL FOR?

ON THE MITIGATION BANK, COUNTYWIDE MITIGATION BANK. >> THERE WAS WORKED ON THE COUNTER GOT BILLED FOR. AND THE FIRM RECEIVED PAYMENT. GOING BEYOND THAT, IS GOING TO REQUIRE ME TO GET INTO ATTORNEY-CLIENT SPECIFIC INFORMATION.

AND I AM ALSO VERY CONSCIOUS OF WANTED TO ANSWER THE COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS,

WATCHING THAT LINE. >> I APPRECIATE THAT AND AM TRYING TO ASK IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T PUT YOU IN A BACK SPOT THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE COUNTYWIDE MITIGATION BANK. WAS SOME OF THE BILLING FOR THAT? I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT. THE COUNTYWIDE MITIGATION BANK.

NOT ANYTHING SPECIFIC JUST A COUNTYWIDE ONE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, AS COMMISSIONER GONZALES ASKED EARLIER, I WANTED TO ASK OUT HERE, WHY WE DIDN'T GET WHAT WE GOT TODAY WE HIRED YOU FOR THAT PURPOSE A COUPLE OF

YEARS AGO. LET ME GET THAT WAY. >> ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS, THERE WAS OTHER WORK THAT WAS WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE RETENTION THAT CAME FIRST.

THEN THINGS WERE COMPLICATED BY COVID. AND THEN THINGS WERE COMPLICATED BY MORE RECENT DEVELOPMENTS. IS THE SHORT AND, ANSWER TO THE

COMMISSIONERS QUESTION. >> OKAY. SO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GOOD FOR NOW. I'M REALLY NOT TRYING TO GET ACROSS THE LINE.

I'LL JUST STOP FOR RIGHT NOW. >> OKAY. I THINK WE MADE A DECISION SINCE WE GOT THE POLICIES, THE DRAFT THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT AND BRING IT BACK. AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF THIS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE END OF APRIL OR IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AT THE COURTS PLEASURE. I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST END OF APRIL JUST BECAUSE WE BUMPED A LOT OF THINGS TO THE NEXT TIME AND AM GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF AHEAD NOD ON THAT MAY BE. THUS THE 27 TO BRING MITIGATION POLICIES BACK AND GIVES EVERYONE LOTS OF TIME TO REVIEW IT, ASK QUESTIONS. YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.

>> 27. >> IT DOESN'T MATTER EITHER WAY.

>> LET'S SHOVE THAT ONE BACK TO MAY. >> MAY.

AND I'M GOING TO ASK THAT WHEN YOU DO IT, I KNOW THIS SOUNDS FUNNY, BUT EVEN A LITTLE POWERPOINT MIGHT BE HELPFUL, WHAT IS MITIGATION, WHAT IS MITIGATION BANK, WHAT IS A WETLAND, WHY DO WE DO THIS? I MEAN, PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED THAT ARE LISTENING MAYBE CAN BENEFIT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE OVERLY SIMPLISTIC NORTH HAD TO BE OVERLY LENGTHY BUT JUST SOMETHING THAT GIVES AN AUDIENCE AS WELL AS COMMISSION THE OPPORTUNITY TO

UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. >> I HAVE NOT READ THIS YET ANOTHER NOTE THE FINAL VERSION IS I WON'T -- THE RISK FACTORS MAY BE TOO GREAT TO EVEN HAVE TO BRING HIM BACK. THAT'S WHY WANT TO READ IT, DIGEST IT TALK TO PROX FOLKS AND SEE WHAT THIS SAYS AND MAYBE WE BRING IT BACK, MAY WE DON'T.

>> WE ON 3600 ACRES. THE COURT MANAGES AND MITIGATION POLICIES WOULD HAVE A GREAT IMPACT ON THAT SO I LOVE THAT IDEA OF BRING IT BACK.

AT SUCH TIME. THEN FOR OTHER PROPERTIES, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COASTAL PARKS CAN WEIGH ON AS WELL. MITIGATION, UNFORTUNATELY WE LIVE IN HURRICANE ALLEY.

WE HAVE A LOT OF AREAS THAT OVER TIME, BOTH EROSION AND STORMS MAKE A MAJOR IMPACT ON.

MITIGATION IS A WAY TO ENHANCE YOUR PARK. AND YOU CAN DO IT IN A VARIETY OF WAYS BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD POLICY IS THE FIRST GOOD STEP.

>> IF I MAY, I INVITED THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO REACH OUT CONTACTING DIRECTLY WITH ANY QUESTIONS. I AM HAPPY, I VIEW MYSELF AS AN ATTORNEY FOR THE COMMISSIONERS

COURT AND I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> AND I WILL SUGGEST THAT WE HOST A 3600 ACRE MEETING VERY SOON LIKE IN MAY.

SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AS WELL. KIND OF CONCURRENTLY.

IF THERE IS NOTHING FURTHER. >> ANY NEW REQUEST OR NEW JOBS OR CASES, GO BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR APPROVAL AGAIN. IT NEEDS TO GO FOR

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COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR APPROVAL. >> YOU KNOW JUDGE, -- HE MAKES A VALID POINT BECAUSE ALL WE WILL DO IS COME BACK AND REPORT TO THE COURT.

MAYBE WE JUST, WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT COMMITTEE IN A COUPLE YEARS MAYBE WE JUST LET THE COURT HEAR ALL THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S UNDER OUR VENUE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S NOT COASTAL PARKS LAND AND PARKS PROPERTY SO PROBABLY WHAT TO DO IT AND FORGET THE COMMITTEE AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHO WAS ON THE COMMITTEE WE HAVEN'T MET IN SO

LONG. DO IT AS A COURT PRESENTATION. >> I HAVE NO PROBLEM, IT WAS THE COMMITTEE THAT SUGGESTED MITIGATION AND HIRING IN THE FIRST PLACE IN 2020.HE REASON WE HAVEN'T MET IS BECAUSE COVID TOOK US AWAY FROM SOME OF OUR PRIORITIES.

BUT HAPPY TO BRING IT BACK. I AM HAPPY TO BRING IT BACK. THE COMMITTEE WAS MADE UP

YOURSELF, MYSELF, -- SCOTT CROSS AND ALSO, IT WAS BELINDA. >> NO BECAUSE IT WAS LAURA.

>> I MEANT BELINDA NOW -- THEN. GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE DEED.

OKAY SO WITH THAT WE WILL JUST SEE YOU AS I SAY, NEXT TIME ON THAT MATTER.

AT THE NEXT ONE THAT I HAVE LISTED IS ITEM C1. >> 14, JUDGE.

[14. Discuss and consider any and all amendments to the Nueces County Commissioners Court Policies and Procedures.]

>> YES WE ARE POLICIES WE'VE GONE OVER IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND I ALSO JUST REMEMBER TO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM I NEED TO ADDRESS ALL GO BACK.

BUT IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT FORTH AND THERE MIGHT BE ONE OR TWO ADDITIONS COMMISSIONER MAREZ HAS AN ADDITION AND I THINK WILL JUST GIVE HER SOME DIRECTION TO BRING IT BACK TO US BUT WE TRUST YOU WILL HEAR THE RIGHT

LANGUAGE. >> I WOULD PROPOSE, I MOVE WOULD PASS ALL OF THEM EXCEPT NUMBER ONE A LITTLE BIT TO BE TWEAKED. IF ANYONE WANTS TO PULL A

CONSENT AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION OR JUST -- >> HOW ABOUT I PULL NUMBER SIX

AND I WILL SECOND THE MOTION. >> OKAY. >> I HATE TO TABLE --

>> OC TABLE FOR THE FOLLOWING MEETING. >> WE PULLED ONE AND SIX SO THE MOTION WILL BE TO PASS THE REST OF THEM AND THEN TALK ABOUT ONE AND SIX INDIVIDUALLY.

>> AND WHAT ABOUT NUMBER 14? >> I'M TRYING TO FIND IT. JUST TO CLARIFY.

SO, ONE, SIX AND 14, THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE REST AND ONE, SIX AND 14 ALL IN FAVOR?

ONE. >> WANT TO GIVE THAT A SHOT? >> YES.

I GET THE IDEA. I APPRECIATE THE 8:30 START I THINK THIS IS GOOD BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HAVE SO MUCH TO DO. I'M A LITTLE LEERY OF PUTTING A STOP TIME.

I DO WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL. AT SOME POINT WE DO GET TIRED AND WE HAVE OTHER OBLIGATIONS AND THINGS THAT WE NEED TO MEET MANY TIMES BEYOND 6 O'CLOCK. I KNOW A COUPLE OF US ARE MISSING RIGHT NOW. FOR A MEMORIAL, BUT I JUST WORRY ABOUT THE LANGUAGE SAYING THE 5:00 END BECAUSE IT COULD BE MORE THAT WE WOULD GET DONE BY 5:30 P.M.

OR MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LONGER. I DO THINK WE HAVE SOME OF OUR BEST WORK WHEN WE KNOW WE ARE UNDER THE GUN. AND IT'S LIKE EVERYONE WANTS TO GET HOME AND IT'S NOT CONTROVERSIAL AND WE START APPROVING THINGS PRETTY QUICKLY, RIGHT? WE SPENT OUR TIME IN THE STUFF THAT REALLY NEEDSTO BE BUT OTHER STUFF WE CAN GET DONE QUICK , WE CAN. I LIKE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO PUT IT TO US AND I DO SUPPORT THAT BELIEF. BUT I WANTED TO SAY LIKE -- THAT IS MY ONLY WORRY CONCERN.

>> HOW ABOUT THIS IF I HAVE 8:30, THE COURT MANAGER WILL MANAGE THE AGENDA TO THE BEST OF HER ABILITY TO END NATURALLY AT 5 PM. AND THAT IS NOT A HARD STOP.

BUT THAT IS KIND OF, GIVES HER THE DIRECTION THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S TOO LONG OR WHATEVER.

BUT IT DOESN'T GIVE IT A HARD STOP, DOESN'T SAY IT HAS TO STOP TO 5 PM.

JUST TRYING TO SOFTEN IT A LITTLE BIT. >> SO THAT WE CAN YOU KNOW, AGREE TO DISAGREE AND HEAVY ON THE AGREE PART. AS A PRESIDING OFFICER, I'M

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HAPPY TO ACCEPT THAT LANGUAGE. WILL TRY TO ALWAYS INFER THAT 5:00 AND MANAGE IT WELL.

BUT THE COURT MANAGER DOESN'T MANAGE THE STOP OR START. JUST NOT HOW IT'S DONE.

BUT LET'S DO WHAT IN THE SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT COMMISSIONER MAREZ IS LOOKING FOR IS SOME FLEXIBILITY AND THE MANAGEMENT TO GET AS CLOSE TO

5:00 AS POSSIBLE. >> CODEX A HARD STOP AT 5:30 P.M.

. I DON'T KNOW, JUST TRYING E -- >> WHAT ABOUT A VOTE AT 5:00?

> GREAT > GREAT IDEA. >> MANAGE NAGE THE AGENDA TO BEST OF THE ABILITY AND FIVE

WHERE THE COURT CAN VOTE TO EXTEND. >> BUT THE MANAGER DOESN'T

CONTROL THE AGENDA. >> SHE COULD AT LEAST BE ABLE TO SAY LIKE SHE DID TO ME, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ITEMS, DO YOU MIND IF WE PUSHED YOURS OFF AND I SAID SURE.

THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO GET AT. >> NO WORRIES.

WE DO THAT NORMALLY. THAT'S FINE, IT IS SO HARD TO PREDICT WHAT LOOKS LIKE ONE MINUTE TURNS INTO 10 HOURS. WHAT LOOKS LIKE 10 HOURS TURNS INTO 30 SECONDS.

>> AND YOU ALSO YOU COMMUNICATE WHAT YOU SAID IS GOOD. >> EVERY WEEK.

>> BETWEEN THE MANAGER AND THE JUDGE ON THAT. >> WE SPEND HOURS.

WE SPENT HOURS WORKING ON IT! >> VOTE TO EXTEND, THAT'S FINE. >> VOTE TO EXTEND, LET'S DO IT! WE WILL MAKE THE AMENDMENT AS YOUR MOTION AND I THINK YOU'LL TAKE A SECOND.

>> JUST FOR THE COURT THE MEETING WILL START 8:30 A.M. AND WE WILL END AT 5:00 PM

BASED ON THE COURTS VOTE. TO EXTEND OR NOT TO EXTEND. >> FINE, OKAY.

VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD. >> AND SECOND ON THAT. >> HE HAS A SECOND ALREADY.

ALL IN FAVOR? AND THEN ON, EXCUSE ME, ITEM NUMBER SIX.

I REALLY FEEL LIKE THIS ONE NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED WITH PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SOME VERY GOOD LANGUAGE THERE IT SAYS UNLESS REQUIRED BY LAW.

YOU MIGHT JUST SAY, IF THE LOG IS ON THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT SOMEONE ON, MAYBE THAT'S KIND OF A MOOT POINT THERE, YOU KNOW? IF WE COULD JUST BRING IT BACK

NEXT TIME, IT WOULD GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK THAT. >> MY ONLY CONCERN THAT WILL, THAT'S WHY AGAIN, JENNY WAS KIND TO HELP DO THIS. SHE PUT THAT IN, TO PUT UNLESS REQUIRED BY LAW BECAUSE WE DO THAT AND CHECKING WITH MICHAEL, WHAT HE SAID IS, THIS IS THEIR POLICY, THEIR CALL AS TO HOW THEY DO THEIR THINGS AND HE DOESN'T HAVE TWO OR NOT HAVE TO INCLUDE MORE BUT HE HAS TO GET POLICY CHANGED WITH THE BOARD. THAT WAS WHY WITH THIS ONE, IF THERE IS NOT, I THOUGHT THERE WAS A FEELING ON THE MAJORITY OF THE COURT, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO BUT WE WERE TOLD WE COULD NOT MAKE THE PURCHASING BOARD DO IT BECAUSE I HAVE THE ON BOARD AND THEIR OWN JUDGES AND THEIR OWN RULES. THIS IS WHY IT CAME BACK WITH THIS AND SAID AS A POLICY, THIS COURT WILL NOT SERVE BECAUSE HE CAN'T MAKE US SERVE NFL POLICY SAYS WE SHALL NOT SERVE THEN BECAUSE I FEEL STRONG THAT NOBODY SHOULD BE ON SELECTION.

THERE IS THE COURT DOESN'T I'M OKAY BUT I FEEL STRONGLY THAT NO ONE SHOULD BE ON THE SELECTION COMMITTEES AND QUITE FRANKLY WE WILL, SO THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GOING AWAY A LOT FROM THE SELECTION COMMITTEE, GOING BACK TO THE ISP. AND THAT'S GREAT BUT I THINK, I REALLY BELIEVE NOAH SHOULD BE ON THAT SELECTION COMMITTEE. I ENJOY DOING IT BUT ALSO FEEL THERE'S DISCOMFORT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I WAS GETTING OTHER INFORMATION THE REST OF THE PEOPLE I THOUGHT MAYBE SOMEONE WAS LOOKING AT ME GOING WAIT A MINUTE, YOU'RE ON THE COMMITTEE, DID YOU DO SOMETHING? I ENJOYED IT BUT IT WAS

UNCOMFORTABLE. >> SO -- I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE ON IT.

>> I HEAR YOU, GOT THE MOTION AND I'M SURE THERE WILL BE A SECOND.

ON THE DISCUSSION REALLY BELIEVE IT IS NOT, IT'S NOT OUR POSITION TO BE ABLE TO PUT A POLICY FORWARD THAT DIRECTS PURCHASING. I THINK THEY GET TO MAKE THAT DECISION AND QUITE FRANKLY, I FEEL I HEAR YOUR OPINION AND I FEEL THE OPPOSITE, THERE BEEN MANY TIMES THAT THE SELECTION COMMITTEES HAVE BEEN BENEFITED BY HAVING COMMISSIONERS PLURAL.

OR ONE COMMISSIONER OR ONE JUDGE INVOLVED. THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PROCUREMENTS THAT GO OUT AND NOT ALL OF THEM REQUIRE OUR PRESENCE BUT SOME DO. AND SOME HAVE HUGE ADDED BENEFIT BY OUR PRESENCE.

LET ME ALSO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT UNLESS IT IS AN IFB, IF IT'S A COMPETITIVE PROPOSAL OR SOME OTHER PROCUREMENT, WHERE SELECTION COMMITTEE IS NEEDED, ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE WELCOME

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TO GO DOWNSTAIRS AND REVIEW THE PACKETS AND BE A PART OF THE INFORMATION SO YOU SHOULD NEVER FEEL THAT IF YOU ARE NOT ON THE COMMITTEE THAT YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO VIEW THE INFORMATION. WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT AND EVEN IN THE UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE YOU ARE NOT NEEDED, YOU'RE ABLE TO, UNLESS IT IS A LITTLE BIT, GO DOWNSTAIRS AND BE PART OF IT. OUR UNIQUE EXPERIENCE, WHETHER IT'S WITH PRECINCTS, WITH YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT IS INLAND PARKS OR COASTAL PARKS, INFRASTRUCTURE, BEING A PART OF IT IS PART OF OUR JOB. AND IF THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT PUTS IT ON BECAUSE HISTORICALLY IT'S BEEN BENEFICIAL, WE SHOULD NOT PRECLUDE THAT.

THAT'S WHITE INDEPENDENT. I THINK HONESTLY, BY HAVING PEOPLE ON THEIR THAT ARE SUBJECT TO MAYBE NOT HAVING EXPERTISE, OF THE PRECINCTS THAT YOU LOSE SOMETHING.

SO I WISH THAT IT WOULD NOT BE A SHELL, DISALLOW THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO DO WHAT THEY NORMALLY DO WHICH IS THEY SELECT, IF THEY THINK IS IN THE BEST INTEREST, THAT'S WHY THEY ARE INDEPENDENT. THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT, IT SHOULD HAVE INDEPENDENCE AND THE INDEPENDENCE MEANS YOU DON'T GO AND TOUCH IT AND SO WITH THAT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR

OF KEEPING IT AS IT IS. >> IS THERE A MOTION? >> YES.

>> SECOND. >> AT THAT THEY DID THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF KEEPING IT THE WAY IT STANDS SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AND I WILL MARK IT AS A NO I THINK THIS IS A REAL LOSS AND -- OF THE RULES IN THAT PROCUREMENT PURCHASING ACT.

>> 14 WAS YOURS TOO. >> 14. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.

ON THE SUCCESSION OF JUDGE PRO TEM THE BEGINNING OF EACH CALENDAR YEAR WOULD BE BASED ON SENIORITY FROM ONE YEAR THEN THE FOLLOWING YEAR THE NEXT MOST SENIOR MEMBER SHALL BE JUDGE PRO TEM. I'M FINE WITH THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT REVERTS BACK TO THE MOST SENIOR AGAIN OR NOT. IF WE CAN ADD THAT AND THEN ALSO, WHERE IT SHOWS IN THE LAST SENTENCE JUDGE PRO TEM MAY DELEGATE THIS DUTY TO ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE COURT IF UNABLE TO PRESIDE. I THINK THE LANGUAGE SHOULD GO TO THE NEXT MOST SENIOR MEMBER.

>> FOR THAT ONE MEETING? >> YES. OBVIOUSLY --

>> IN OTHER WORDS YOU'RE SAYING THE MOST SENIOR COMMISSIONER BILL BE APPOINTED PRO TEM AND WE COULD JUST ADD THE WORDS, AND THE ROTATION START OVER AFTER EACH MEMBER HAS SERVED.

DOES THAT WORK?> THAT'S FINE. IF YOU WANT TO KIND OF RUN OF

THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT AND THAT MAY BE HELPFUL. >> IT WOULD SAY THE FOLLOWING

YEAR -- >> AND NOT TO PICK YOU JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAD

LANGUAGE THAT EXPLAINED HOW IT SHOULD ROTATE. >> THAT WORKS.

>> THE FOLLOWING YEAR THE NEXT MOST SENIOR COMMISSIONER SHALL BE JUDGE PRO TEM THEN ROTATION START OVER AFTER EACH MEMBER HAS SERVED ONE YEAR. IN THE SAME ORDER.

>> AND THEN THIS SHOULD BE ANOTHER PART TO THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DEVOTE SEPARATELY BUT IF YOU ALLOW AMENDMENT LIKE THAT AS WELL THE MAYOR, THE MAYOR PRO TEM --

>> JUDGE. >> MAYOR AND THE JUDGE PRO TEM SHALL -- REVERT OR -- THE NEXT IN LINE SHALL THEN BECOME JUDGE PRO TEM IF UNAVAILABLE TO PRESIDE OVER THE MEETING?

>> I THINK WE COULD JUST TAKE THAT OFF. I WOULD JUST, I WOULD MOTION THAT WE STRIKE THE LAST SENTENCE. IS THAT OKAY?

>> I LIKE IT, THAT'S FINE. >> ALL RIGHT THAT'S THE MOTION. I WILL SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? WE'VE GOT SOME COURT POLICIES WE WILL PUBLISH THESE ON THE WEBSITE TOO SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE NOTICE OF IT. AND WE WILL, IT IS A LIVING DOCUMENT. AS SITUATIONS ARISE WHERE CLARITY COMES FIRST WE MIGHT

SEE NEW POLICIES OR EDIT POLICIES IN THE FUTURE. >> OF THE COURT WHICH FOR ME OR

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THE OFFICE TO PUT THESE IN A DOCUMENT THAT INCLUDES THE OLD POLICIES AS WELL?

>> YES, I THINK SO. IT WAS A TALK ABOUT THE QUORUM AND ALL THAT.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. AND IN FACT, WE DIDN'T REALLY GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM BUT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME IF YOU PUT IN THE BIG DOCUMENT AND BRING IT BACK WE CAN PUBLISH IT ALTOGETHER. AND THE NEXT ONE THAT WE HAVE

[1. Discuss and consider approval of a temporary construction easement agreement between Kinder Morgan Tejas Pipeline LLC and Nueces County for a staging area while making repairs to an existing pipeline.]

ON THE COURTS AGENDA IS ITEM C1, IS THAT CORRECT? KINDER MORGAN PIPELINE, EASEMENT AGREEMENT. YOU RECOMMEND THIS APPROVAL OF THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION

EASEMENT FOR STAGING AREA. >> YES JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE APPROVAL OF THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT THIS IS GOING TO BE DOING CROSSING IT IN THE AREA. AND THE PROPERTY, IT WILL BE TEMPORARY.

>> ,SHOULD YOU CHARGE THEM FOR THAT? >> THAT JUDGE, WE CAN DO I THINK THE AGREEMENT SAYS THEY WILL BE THERE JUST FOR, NOT FOR A LONG TIME, BUT IF WE NEED TO

WE CAN GO BACK AND DO AN AMENDMENT. >> IT IS KINDER MORGAN TEJAS PIPELINE LLCC AND THEY DO NEED US AND IT IS OUR LAND. NO PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD GIVE IT TO THEM FOR FREE. AND I DON'T THINK WE HOULD EITHER.

SHOULD YOU GO BACK AND NEGOTIATE SOMETHING? >> I'LL GET WITH THE COUNTY

ATTORNEY AND SEE IF WE CAN DO THAT. >> OKAY HOW ABOUT WE APPROVE THE EASEMENT AGREEMENT SUBJECT TO NEGOTIATION AND BRING IT BACK TO US ON THE FINAL DOLLAR

AMOUNT. I SAY WE CAN GET GOING. >> YES MA'AM.

>> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR? AND THEN, YOU'VE GOT -- LET'S

[3. Discuss and consider approval of the plat of Deleon Tract, Lot 1, a single tract of land.]

DO A PLAT OF DELEON. LOT NUMBER ONE SINGLE TRACT. >> WE ARE PROVING RECOMMENDED

FOR THE DELEON TRACT, LOT 1. WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE

THE PLAT? >> MOTION. >> SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR? THEN WHAT ABOUT, CAN WE GET THE

[5. Discuss and consider approval of a Supplemental Agreement No. 1 between Nueces County and Richter Architects for the Hilltop Community Center Facility Project, as recommended by Lockwood, Andrews & Newnam (LAN).]

SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN -- RECOMMENDED WITH LOCKWOOD, ANDREWS AND NEWNAM.

THIS IS JUST A LITTLE FORMALITY. >> JUST A FORMALITY.

I THINK IT ALREADY HAD APPROVED BEFORE. JUST A FORMALITY TO DO THE

AMENDMENT. >> NO COST AMENDMENT?> SO MOVED.

YOU RECOMMEND? >> WE RECOMMEND. >> SECOND.

[2. Discuss and consider amending the Engineering Service contract for Program Management with Lockwood, Andrews and Newnam, Inc. (LAN).]

>> IT'S THE PHASE WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED. >> YES MA'AM.

>> NO NEW ADDITIONAL COST. GOT IT! A MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? NOW LET'S SEE, DO YOU HAVE A SPREADSHEET FOR US I THINK ON

ITEM NUMBER TWO? >> YES MA'AM. >> CAN YOU BRING THAT UP? OKAY NEVERMIND CONNIE IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT. IT BASICALLY SHOWS HIGHLIGHTS THREE DIFFERENT PROJECTS. AT THIS WHEN WE LOOKED AT PROJECTS, MONIES ARE NOT BEING USED FOR THE CAPITOL IMPROVEMENTS 2019. AND THIS IS FROM THE PROJECT MANAGER. I THINK YOUR PROJECT IN THERE THAT WE LOOKED AT, ONE IS THE AIRPORT EXPANSION PRETTY MUCH WHICH IS A BUILDING ALLOCATED $470,708 FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT. THE SECOND ONE EXPANSION IMPROVEMENT AND ROADWAY.

THE OTHER ONE IS A MEDICAL EXAMINER'S FACILITY AND 503,000 AND CHANGE.

THE OTHER FOUR PROJECTS ARE COMPLETED AND THERE IS ONE IN THE FINAL STAGE, COMPLETED -- COUNTY ROAD 48 HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND COUNTY ROAD 73, THERE IS COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT. THE PROJECTS ARE PRETTY MUCH COMPLETED.

COUNTY ROAD 67, ALLOCATED MONEY, 129,863, COUNTY ROAD 69 66,179, COUNTER 73 IS 79,456.

COUNTY ROAD 48 IS 20,151. >> ALL THOSE ROADS ARE DONE. I WILL MAKE A MOTION ALL THE

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ROWS THAT WE JUST LISTED AND HELP ME OUT, 67, 69. 73, 48 ARE ALL SUBSTANTIALLY

COMPLETE THEREFORE WILL NOT NEED THE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS. >> THE ONE THING ON COUNTY ROAD 73 THAT NUMBER MIGHT CHANGE BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST FINALIZING DOCUMENTS.

79,456. MIGHT BE PLUS OR MINUS. >> THAT THEY WOULD EVER SLEPT WITH. ALL THOSE DOLLARS, MY MOTION IS THAT THEY RELOCATE BACK TO WHENCE THEY CAME WHICH IS THE CEO, RIGHT? THEY GO SO IS HER SECOND FOR

THAT? >> THESE ARE ALL CO MONEY? >> YES SIR.

>> DO YOU AVE A SECOND? >> YES. >> ALL IN FAVOR?

>> MAKE SURE THAT TERESA KNOWS THAT SO SHE CAN HELP KEEP US. >> NOW LET'S GO TO THE AIRPORT.

IN THE AIRPORT ORIGINALLY IN 2020, 2019, WE WERE HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN MAYBE DO AN EXTENSION OF THE RUNWAY BUT I DID GET AN EMAIL FROM STEVE BONNER AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT AVAILABLE I AGREE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THE RUNWAY GRANT RIGHT NOW.

LET ME SEE HERE. AT ANY RATE, I HOPE THAT IN THE FUTURE, WE CAN GO OUT FOR THOSE GRANTS TO BE ABLE TO TACKLE THE RUNWAY BECAUSE THAT AIRPORT WILL HAVE NO ABILITY TO GENERATE ANYTHING HIGHER THAN WHAT IS DOING RIGHT NOW WHICH IS NOT VERY MUCH UNLESS YOUGO FROM 3500 TO 5000 . BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S IN THE CARDS THIS YEAR, AND SO, I AGREE THAT THE AIRPORT IS STALLED UNTIL SUCH TIME AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BETTER OPPORTUNITIES, WHICH WE ARE CONSTANTLY PURSUING.I DON'T THINK THERE IS A DISAGREEMENT

THERE, RIGHT? >> THIS IS JUST A RECOMMENDATION, IT'S UP TO THE

COURT. >> YOU AGREE, -- ANY QUESTIONS WITH REGARDS TO THE AIRPORT? IN THAT CASE, WOULD THERE BE SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO RELOCATE THOSE BACK

TO ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WE NEED? >> JUST RELOCATED BACK TO THE

CO. >> YES WE CAN USE IT TO THE PROJECT.

IT GOES BACK TO CO SO WE CAN USE IT FOR OTHER PROJECT. IS THERE A MOTION?

GOING TO GO BACK TO -- >> AT THAT YOU MADE THE MOTION AND WE DID THAT.

>> HE GOES BACK TO THE CO. AS I SAID, FROM WHENCE THEY CAME.

>> I THINK WE DID THAT. DO WE NEED TO VOTE? >> YES.

MOTION? >> MOTION ALREADY. >> MOTION AND SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY, THE THIRD PROJECT IS A MEDICAL EXAMINER'S AND WE DO HAVE MONEY IN PRIORITY MONEY THERE AS WELL AS OF COURSE, PROGRAM MANAGEMENT.

IT'S NOT JUST PROGRAM MANAGEMENT IT'S ALSO PRIORITY MONEY.

AND SO, I THINK THAT'S AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION TO HAVE WHAT IT IS WE ARE GOING TO DO THERE. I WOULD ASK THAT WE AT LEAST HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE IS. BECAUSE IT CANNOT BE WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.

>> AM CONFUSEDB& THE MOTION WAS ALL OF THESE WOULD GO BACK TO WHERE THEY WERE.

>> I JUST TOOK THEM AS EACH PROJECT. I DID THE ROADS FIRST.

>> ARE ALL OF THESE CO PROJECTS? >> YES.

>> THAT'S WHY I WAS CONFUSED. >> THAT THERE WILL BE BEST SINCE THERE ARE THREE PROJECTS, I TOOK ROADS AND THEN I TOOK AIRPORT AND NOW ADDRESSING ME, AND THE REASON I THINK YOU SHOULD STAY PUT IS I THINK WE AT LEAST NEED ONE AGENDA ITEM TO DISCUSS THE FUTURE OF AN ME

OFFICE. >> THAN THE OTHERS WOULD GO BACK TO UNALLOCATED.

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AND RIGHT NOW MEDICAL EXAMINER WOULD STAY PUT. >> YES.> DOES MAKE ONE BIG

MOTION. >> THAT'S FINE.> ALL WOULD GO BACK TO UNALLOCATED CO EXCEPT KARA THOUGHT, THAT WAS DANA CATEGORY. THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION.

>> AND I WILL SECOND. SINCE YOU DID A NICE JOB THERE. >> THANKS.

>> ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY AND THE NEXT ONE IS -- >> I THINK WE ARE DONE.

>> WE GET YOU ARE RIGHT! BECAUSE WE DID THAT EARLIER. OKAY.

[1. Approve Monthly Financial Report for the month of September 2021.]

>> THINK A JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. >> AND WE DID --

>> WE DID IT. THE ONLY THING IS FOR THE AUDITOR, I PUSHED HIS FINANCIAL

[2. Discuss and consider approval of payments received from the City/County Public Health District invoiced for January and February 2022.]

REPORT WHICH I'M GRATEFUL FOR BUT WHAT ABOUT DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF PAYMENTS, I KNOW YOU LIKE TO GET YOUR CHECKS OUT. CAN WE DO THAT ONE NOW, DALE? THESE ARE INVOICE FOR JANUARY AND FEBRUARY. PRIOR TO --

>> YES ROUTINE BILLS FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WHEN WE WERE RUNNING BALANCES.

THERE ARE SOME REIMBURSEMENTS FOR SALARY FOR THE DIRECTOR, NURSE PRACTITIONER AS WELL AS THE BUYER WE HAD. NO OVERTIME ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AMOUNT.

ROUTINE BALANCES TO PAY FOR THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, JANUARY AND FEBRUARY.

>> I HAVE A MOTION, WHAT ABOUT A SECOND? I WILL SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? THEN WE FORGOT ONE THAT IS IMPORTANT AND IT HAS TO DO WITH AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM. IT HAS TO DO WITH ITEM C COMPENSATION PACKAGE FOR THE

[C. Deliberate personnel issues including compensation package for Medical Examiner, change to job description and/or pay, and related matters.]

MEDICAL EXAMINER. AND SO, I WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE ADVISE HR DIRECTOR TO OFFER A COMPENSATION PACKAGE TO OUR CANDIDATE FOR CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER, DOCTOR LUCY. $350,000 BASE PAY PLUS BENEFITS.

IN ADDITION, HAVE A $10,000 RELOCATION EXPENSE STIPEND. >> SECOND.

>> IS THERE DISCUSSION? OKAY, WE DIRECT HER TO DO THIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

FIRST THING IN THE MORNING. AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OPPOSED?

OKAY, I MISSED ONE? >> WE HAVE TO GO BACK -- WOULD PUT ON HOLD.

[INAUDIBLE] >> THANK YOU. NUMBER SEVEN HAS A DATE.

YES MA'AM. >> WHAT WAS FELT IN MY OFFICE IS DIFFERENT --

>> GO AHEAD AND TELL ME. FOR THE HOLD AGENDA? PUBLIC NOTICES WHAT YOU SIGNED OFF ON WAS BROUGHT TO MY OFFICE FRIDAY 4:27 PM IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT -- WHAT

I'VE BEEN GOING OFF OF? >> ACTUALLY NO, -- >> WAS THERE SOMETHING NOT

POSTED? >> WOULD YOU HELP ME FIND THE DIFFERENCE?

>> THE ONLY ONE I CAN FIND IS EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> IS IT MISSING ONE OR ADDING

ONE? [INAUDIBLE] >> YOU KNOW WHAT, BRING IT TO ME. I THINK THAT WE MEANT TO EXCLUDE IT.

CAN I SEE, IS IT AN APPRAISAL? >> THERE'S NOTHING ON THE GENDER THAT IS NOT ON N THE

AGENDA. >> SO -- >> WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ON

THAT. >> WE DIDN'T DISCUSS IT OR ACT ON IT.

BUT FOR YOUR RECORDS SINCE IS POSTED HOW ABOUT IF I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT? AND THAT WILL HELP YOU. RIGHT. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IN ITEM WE DID NOT DISCUSS, WHICH IS DELIBERATE THE REAL PROPERTY VALUE.

OF THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE FAIRGROUNDS. THANK YOU FOR THE CATCH.

THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY AND IT WAS POINT OUT THAT THERE WAS A DATE THAT WAS MISSING IN ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. IS THAT RIGHT? AND FOR THE SPECIAL MEETING, THAT'S CORRECT. IF EVERYONE COULD --

>> WERE GOING TO HAVE A DATE FOR THE SPECIAL MEETING. >> I THINK I HAD ON MINE WHAT I WANTED TO THROW OUT WAS, THE 20TH, BUT THAT'S IN THE EVENING, RIGHT?

>> THAT'S FINE WITH ME. >> WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT BUT I CAN HAVE -- DO THAT I GUESS.

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>> PUBLIC COMMENT? >> IT'S A CDGB PUBLIC MEETING BUT WE CAN HAVE SOMEONE DO IT

FOR US TO REQUEST THE 20TH WORKS FOR ME AT 5:00. >> THE 20TH AT 5:00 IS THE SUGGESTION. DOES THE COURT WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> LET ME SEE. >> WE COULD ALSO DO THE 19TH ON MY CALENDAR IF THAT WORKS.

>> WHAT DAYS THAT? >> WEDNESDAY THE 20TH. >> SHOULD BE OKAY WEDNESDAY.

>> WEDNESDAY SHOULD BE OKAY? OKAY. >> SECOND.

>> AIM FOR 5:00 ON THE 20TH. >> MOTION TO SET THE MEETING. >> PLEASE MARK THAT.

NOT THE 21ST REQUEST MOTION TO SET MEETING FROM 5 TO 7 PM WEDNESDAY, APRIL 20.

>> YES SIR. MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CHESNEY I THOUGHT I HEARD A SECOND FROM THE LEFT. ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY, THEN ITEM NUMBER ONE AND

[1. Discuss and consider approval of personal services contract with Legislative Consultant, Patricia Shipton, for services related to the 88th Texas Legislative Session, strategic planning, consulting, and governmental relations services, and other related matters.]

[2. Discuss and consider approval of personal services contract with Legislative Consultant, Joel Romo, for services related to the 88th Texas Legislative Session, strategic planning, consulting, and governmental relations services, and other related matters.]

TWO. THEY ARE EXACTLY THE SAME ONLY DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

THAT IS AT THEIR PERSONAL SERVICES CONTRACT FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANT OR THE

FIRST IS PATRICIA SHIPTON AND THE SECOND IS FOR JOEL ROMO. >> I SAY WE HIRED JOEL --

>> PATRICIA. >> PATRICIA, SORRY. DID I REALLY? IMPRESSIVE. IT'S LATE. I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE HIRE PATRICIA AT $5000 A MONTH STARTING MAY 1 TO THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

>> OKAY AND I WILL SECOND THAT. ALL IN FAVOR? I HAVE ONE NO.

>> A MOTION FOR JOEL. >> I WILL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR?

>> NO. >> TWO NO. >> FOR THE RECORD WE HAVE THE BUDGET, IN FACT WE ARE UNDER BUDGET ON THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS BUDGETED FOR THE WHOLE YEAR AND

WE HAVEN'T UNTIL NOW. [INAUDIBLE] >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

I BELIEVE, LET'S LOOK AT IT REAL QUICK. WHILE WE ARE LOOKING AT IT WILL YOU ALL PLEASE CONSIDER ANY ADJOURNMENT IN MEMORY THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE? AND HOW ABOUT ANY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, COMMISSIONER CHESNEY TODAY? YOU DO? YOU CAN BE FIRST, COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ.

COMMISSIONER CHESNEY. >> NO OVERTIME? >> THERE IS NONE.

[ Adjournment in Memory (upon request)]

GO AHEAD. >> FIRST ONE I HAVE IS WILLIAM ALBERT CLARK, PASSED AWAY THE PRESENCE OF HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 10. SURVIVED BY HIS WIFE PATTY, MANY AMINO PATTY HIS SONS DONNIE AND ROD. -- DAUGHTER BRITTANY.

SURVIVED BY HIS SISTER AND OTHER RELATIVES. HE GREW UP IN A MUSICAL HOUSEHOLD AND RAISED BY PARENTS WHO BELIEVE IN THE POINTS OF COMMUNITY ACTIVITY AND PUBLIC SERVICE. HE EXHIBITED THOSE VALUES AND TALENT IN HIS OWN HOME AND COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT HIS LIFE. BILL WAS AN ALLSTATE DEFENSIVE LINEMAN IN TENNESSEE.

HIGHLY DESIRABLE RECRUIT FOR SEVERAL DIVISION I COLLEGE INCLUDING UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA AND HEAD COACH -- DUE TO THE UNTIMELY DEATH OF HIS FATHER HE DECIDED TO HELP HIS FAMILY -- ATTENDED MEMPHIS STATE UNIVERSITY INVOLVED WITH -- I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A FRATERNITY I WAS INVOLVED IN. CONDOLENCES TO BILL CLARK'S FAMILY.

HE WAS A HAPPY GUY. CERTAINLY SORRY TO SEE HIS LOSS.

I DON'T HAVE THE OBITUARY FOR THIS MAN BUT I KNEW HIM WELL I WANTED TO OFFER CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF OFFICER KEARNEY. PASSED AWAY SOMETIME BACK IN, HE WAS UNFORTUNATE BUT, CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY AS WELL. AND FINALLY, MY LAST ONE TODAY IS MARTHA WARNKE. OF COURSE, PASSED AWAY PEACEFULLY IN A JOINT AROUND 10 JOHN FEBRUARY 14, 2022. SHE WAS BORN IN SAN FRANCISCO CALIFORNIA MAY 11, 1947 BY TWIST OF FATE SHE MET THE LOVE OF HER LIFE MANY YEARS AGO IN A COMMONPLACE THAT ATTENDED.

YOU MAY KNOW ONE OF HER FIVE CHILDREN, KIRBY WAS CCSD CHIEF OF POLICE I BELIEVE AND SO

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CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY ON THE LOSS OF HIS MOTHER. THANK YOU.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. I DON'T THINK THAT THERE ANYMORE ADJOURNMENT IN MEMORY

[1. Discuss disaster preparedness and response, including matters related to COVID-19, Emergency Orders, severe weather, flooding, drainage, economic recovery, state and federal assistance, American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA), Emergency Rental Assistance Program (ERAP), and infrastructure status, and other related matters.]

APPEARED AS I WAS GOING OVER THE COURT AGENDA, WE DID NOT DO GENERAL INFORMATION REPORTS.

WE SKIPPED THOSE. WHAT I INTEND TO DO, WITH A MOTION, IF YOU APPROVE, I WILL SEND YOU A WRITTEN REPORT. AND OF COURSE, WE ALWAYS HAVE THIS AS A STANDING ITEM.

BUT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME DEVELOPMENTS THAT I THINK YOU WILL WANT TO KNOW ABOUT.

FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS A MRNA BOOSTER FOR PEOPLE OVER 50, THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL BOOSTER I'M OVER 50 SO I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MIGHT WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THAT.

WE ARE STILL VERY MUCH ENGAGED, EVEN THOUGH IT IS THROUGH CONTRACT, WITH VACCINATING FOLKS AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER IMPORTANT INFORMATION THAT I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU REGARDING WILDFIRES. DAMAGE THAT OCCURRED IN NUECES COUNTY.

I GUESS IT WAS A WEEK AGO, THURSDAY THAT WE GOT CALLED TO THE SCENE.

SINCE THEN, WE'VE HAD ANOTHER ONE. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, IF IT MEETS YOUR APPROVAL, I WILL HAVE MR. RAY WRITE EVERYTHING TOMORROW AND GET IT TO ALL OF YOU AND IF WE NEED TO SET UP ONE-ON-ONE, WE CAN.

BUT I THINK A GOOD GENERAL INFORMATION REPORT COULD SUFFICE UNLESS THERE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. AND EVERYONE IS HOPING, KARA SAYS ABSOLUTELY NOT.

I DO WANT TO GET YOU THE REPORT. IS THAT ALL RIGHT THAT WE NOT PASS IT AND NOT TABLE IT BUT JUST MAKE A MOTION TO GET THE WRITTEN REPORT?

>> ALSO MOVED. >> I WILL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? WE WILL DO THAT. WITH THAT WE STAND ADJOURNED.

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