C. County Judge will call roll, note date, time, and location of meeting, and certify a quorum is present.

[E. PUBLIC COMMENT: This section provides the public the opportunity to address the Commissioners Court on any issues within its jurisdiction. The Commissioners Court may not take formal action on any requests made during the Public Comment period which are not on the Agenda, but can refer such requests to County staff for review if appropriate.]

WOULD YOU SO GOOD AS TO -- I UNDERSTAND I HAVE ONE HAND RAISED, AND TIM I WILL GET TO YOU.

BUT FIRST, THIS MORNING, I HAVE GOT ACTUALLY TIM, YOU ARE FIRST SIGNED UP THIS MORNING. SO YOU DO GET TO GO FIRST.

CONNIE, WILL YOU PLEASE UNMUTE MR. DOWLING, AND ALTHOUGH I KNOW YOUR NAME, TIM, FOR THE RECORD STATE YOUR NAME AND

ADDRESS FOR THE CLERK. >> CERTAINLY JUDGE, TIM DOW DOWNING, 8017. BEFORE I START, I WANT TO EXPRESS MY THANKS TO YOU JUDGE, AND MISS RODRIGUEZ.

THE LEADERSHIP YOU SHOWN IN THIS EXCEPTIONAL TIME OF COVID, HAVE BEEN IMPRESSIVE AND A WISE AND STEADY HAND AND MUCH APPRECIATEMY REMARKS CONCERN REDISTRICTING.

I HAVE BEEN A LAWYER FOR 40 YEARS AND LEARNED MORE ABOUT REDISTRICTING AS PART OF TEXAS ORGANIZATION AND SEMINARS.

I GAVE A TEN-PAGE MEMO FOR EACH OF YOU WHO I HOPE YOU RECEIVED.

I GAVE IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND I THINK IT APPLIES TO YOU IF YOU JUST TAKE OUT THE WORD CITY AND PUT COUNTY, I THINK IT WILL WORK. ATTORNEY JOSE GARZA DIRECTLY TOLD YOU ON MAY 28 THAT YOU MUST REDISTRICT.

JULY 20 OF THE LEGISLATURE THAT YOU MUST HAVE A FAIR AND OPEN PROCESS. AS A POLITICAL SUBDIVISION IN THE STATE, THIS BODY IS LEGALLY REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THE SAME OBLIGATION. SO HOW DO YOU DO IT? YOU CAN HAVE AN INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING COMMISSION, AND A PROCESS WITH THE DECISI DECISION-MAKERS OR DO A DEAL STRUCK AT A PUBLIC VIEW. THE BEST WOULD BE GO TO INDEPENDENT COMMISSION CALLED IRC.

I EXPLAINED THAT ON A PAGES 3 TO 6 OF MY MEMO, BUT BIG PICTURE IS INLAND PENT PEOPLE BALANCES DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS. THE PROCESS WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND NO MAP APPROVED WITHOUT BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FROM THE MEMBERS. IF YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DO THAT AND DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THE UPCOMING ELECTION, PLEASE USE A TRANSPARENT PROCESS THAT HAVE OUTLINED IN PAGES 7 AND 9 AND THE MAIN POINT, THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND AN ATTORNEY WILL PREPARE PROPOSED MAP THAT THE PUBLIC CAN ALSO SUBMIT MAPS AND IMPROVE ONE OF THE MAPS. SAVE MONEY BY SHARING THE SAME ATTORNEY AND MR. GARZA APPEARS COMPETENT IN HIS JOB.

I READ THE MEMO AND SEEMS LIKE A VERY IMPRESSIVE FELLA.

THE ONLY THING THAT TROUBLES ME THAT I READ LINES DRAWN WITHOUT PUBLIC INPUT. WILL MEET WITH EACH COMMISSIONER TO, QUOTE, FIND OUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU WHICH IS HOW DO YOU WANT YOUR LINES DRAWN.

PAGE 4 OF THIS MEMO MAKES CLEAR WHY IT IS PROPOSED FOR THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE AND AVOID ANY ISSUES WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS LAW. AND DISCUSS COUNTY BUSINESS WITHOUT VIOLATING THE ACT. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE OF DISCUSSION WITH MR. GAR ZA AND ANY OTHER LAWYER WHEN IT IS THE COUNTY AND NOT ANY PARTICULAR COMMISSIONER ARE. IF IT DID APPLY, TO SANITIZE A OPEN RECORD VIOLATION. TALK TO COMMISSIONER A AND B.

A SAYS HE WILL MOVE HIS LINE THAT WAY IF YOU MOVE YOUR LINES THAT WAY. ONE CANNOT USE A ATTORNEY TO CIRCUMVENT. I ASK TO YOU APPROVE A IRC AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND IF THAT IS NOT POP, FOR THE 2022 ELECTION.

USE IT FOR 2024 AND USE THE TRANSPARENT PROCESS IN THE MIDDLE. NO DOUBT SOME OF THE PROCEDURES IN THE MEMO WILL BE IMPROVED. DON'T LET THE PERFECT BE THE ENEMY OF THE GOOD. A MAP THAT IS PRODUCT OF A CONFIDENTIAL TALKS. AS WHERE THE DEAL STRUCK IN DARKNESS WILL SURELY DEMONSTRATE PUBLIC DISTRUST.

AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE NOW OR IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING MY

REMARKS. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WILL JUST REMIND YOU WE DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT AND AT LEAST I CAN SAY THAT WE HAVE A COPY OF YOUR HANDOUT AND APPRECIATE YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY. SO I WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT PERSON WHO I HAVE LISTED AS BRIAN WATSON.

IF YOU WOULD APPROACH THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE, SIR.

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>> HERE? >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, SIR.

THE ONE BACK THERE. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, JUDGE. MY NAME IS BRIAN WATSON.

I LIVE AT 5813 HUGO DRIVE. QUICKLY, I HAVE A HANDOUT FOR EACH OF YOU. MY CONCERN HERE TODAY IS THE SEEMING PREOCCUPATION WITH VETERANS AND THEIR CONTR CONTRIBUTIONS AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON. BUT I HAVE SOME INFORMATION HERE ON THE VIETNAM WAR WHICH I WOULD LIKE FOR EACH OF YOU TO LOOK AT. THIS IS A COPY OF A BOOK OF LINDA JOHNSON, A COPY OF THE COVER SO YOU KNOW I AM TALKING TALKING ABOUT THIS. AN EXCERPT OF THE COVER OF THE BOOK "THE SHADOWS OF POWER." THE COUNCIL OF FOREIGN RELATIONS AND AMERICAN DECLINE. AND THEN THE LAST PAGE IS A COPY OF THE -- OF THE BACK -- THE COVER OF THE BOOK "DERELICTION OF DUTY." LYNDON JOHNSON, ROBERT MAK THAT MARA AND THE CHIEF JOINT OF STAFF AND LIVES THAT LED TO VIETNAM. IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS AND IF YOU HAVE TIME, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT AND SET THE STAGE FOR A BETTER UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT IS THAT VETERANS ARE DEALING WITH AND WHAT THEIR REAL NEEDS ARE.

I CERTAINLY CAN'T BLAME THAT SITUATION ON THEM.

IT WASN'T THEIR FAULT. BUT - WAS TO BLAME GOT AWAY WITH IT. I SERVED IN THE NAVY FOR THREE YEARS AS AND I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT THINGS ARE FOR THE MILITARY ALL THE TIME. SO ANYWAY, I WILL LEAVE THIS

WITH TYNER. >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, WITH TYNER. WILL YOU GRAB THAT FOR US.

THANK YOU, SIR. HE WILL MAKE SURE WE GET THEM.

APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT. THE NEXT PERSON WHO SIGNED UP IS DANIEL ZAMORA. JUST SO YOU KNOW YOU WILL BE FOLLOWED BY BOBBY CHESTNUT.

>> MY NAME IS DANIEL ZAMORA. MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED IN THE VALLEY VIEW SUBDIVISION ALSO KNOWN AS COUNTY ROAD 52 B AREA FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS. BEFORE MAY 19, WE NEVER HAD FLOODWATERS COME INTO OUR HOME. WE EXPERIENCED NORMAL WEATHER EVENTS INCLUDING VERY HEAVY RAINS WITHOUT GETTING WATER INTO OUR HOMES. ON MAY 19 AND THEN AGAIN ON JULY 8 OF THIS YEAR, WATER CAME INTO OUR HOME.

TWICE IN SIX WEEKS. THE DITCHES AND CULVERTS ALONG COUNTY ROAD 52 B ARE BEING CLEANED OUT RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK. SOME OF THE CULVERTS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY RESTRICTED. THIS IS OR SHOULD ABNORMAL ROUTINE OF NUECES COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS DIVISION SHOULD BE DOING REGULARLY. THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE AREA 52 B WHERE ALL THE WATER RUNOFF FROM THE SUBDIVISION GOES, THERE IS A SINGLE EXIT POINT THAT GOES UNDER A WATER CANAL. A FEW YEARS AGO, THE THREE TO FOUR-FOOT DIAMETER CORRUGATED METAL DRAINAGE PIPE RUNNING UNDER THE CANAL WILL BE REPLACED WITH MUCH SMALLER CONCRETE PIPES. THIS HAS SEVERELY RESTRICTED THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT CAN GET OUT OF OUR SUBDIVISION.

NOW WHEN THERE IS HEAVY RAINS, WATER LEVELS DO RISE AND THEY HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME GETTING THROUGH THOSE SMATTER PIPES.

IN THE LAST 30 YEARS WITH THE SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENTS, WATER LEVELS RISE SIGNIFICANTLY DURING STORMS AND THEY IMMEDIATELY START RECEDING ONCE THE RAIN STOPS.

THAT IS PROBLEM NUMBER ONE, PROBABLY NUMBER TWO, CONSTRUCTION GOING ON NORTH OF OUR SUBDIVISION AND CONSTRUCTION HAS CAUSED DRAINAGE ISSUE BECAUSE THE RUNOFF FROM THAT CONSTRUCTION SITE GOES DIRECTLY INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY THE COMMISSIONER AND THE ENGINEERS THAT THAT PROJECT IS BEING DONE BY THE CITY CORPUS AND THE COUNTY HAS NO RESPONSIBILITY WITH THE PRO PROJECT. THAT IS THE SECOND PROBLEM.

THE THIRD PROBLEM, SUBDIVISION WEST OF OUR SUBDIVISION, FARM TO MARKET RUNS NORTH AND SOUTH THROUGH THERE.

THAT WATER FROM THAT SUBDIVISION ALSO FLOWS IN THREE AREAS INTO OUR SUBDIVISION. NUECES COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS SAY

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THE LAKE SUBDIVISION START OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND THAT THEY HAVE NO JURISDICTION OF THEM EITHER.

WE ARE TOLD THAT THE DRAINAGE ISSUES ALONG BOTH SIDES OF FM 1889 IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. AND NUECES COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS, AGAIN, HAVE NO CONTACT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

I WOULD THINK THAT THE WATER COMING OVER THE ROAD, FM 1889 WOULD AT LEAST BE A SAFETY CONCERN FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. SO THESE THINGS THAT I JUST INDICATED AND WHAT SEEMS TO BE A LACK OF PLANNING AND INFORMATION BETWEEN NUECES COUNTY, THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, THESE ISSUES HAVE CAUSED A DISASTER IN OUR SUBDIVISION.

WE HAVE BEEN GRACIOUSLY PROMISED BY COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ IMPROVEMENTS. AND WE ARE SEEING THEM.

SO WE ARE ANXIOUSLY AWAITING THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.

THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, MR. ZAMORA. MR. CHESTNUT.

THANK YOU. SO YOU SUPPORT MR. ZAMORA'S COMMENTS. WE WILL NOTE THOSE FOR THE RECORD, SIR. MISS GALLOWAY.

SORRY, PATRICIA GALLOWAY. >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS PATRICIA GALLOWAY, 3628 COUNTY ROAD 52 B.

MAY 19, MY HOUSE WAS FLOODED, ABOUT TWO AND A HALF TO THREE INCHES THROUGH MOST OF THE HOUSE EXCEPT MY TWO BOYS' BEDROOMS. ON JULY 8, MY WHOLE HOUSE WAS FLOODED ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE BOYS' BEDROOM, TWICE AS MUCH WATER AS IT WAS. I WAS UP AT 3:37.

I GOT UP. I WENT BACK TO SLEEP ABOUT 4 4:45, AND I WAS LAYING ON MY COUCH IN MY LIVING ROOM.

WELL, I GOT UP ABOUT 5:45, SWUNG MY FEET OVER EDGE OF THE COUCH. I WAS ANKLE DEEP IN WATER.

I THOUGHT I WAS DREAMING. AND I KICKED MY FOOT AND WATER GOES FLYING ACROSS MY LIVING ROOM.

AND I THOUGHT I AM NOT DRE DREAMING, MY HOUSE FLOODED THAT FAST I WAS ALMOST IN SHOCK TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

THE FIRST FLOODING WAS BAD ENOUGH, BUT THE SECOND ONE REALLY DID A NUMBER ON ME. I TEXT MY FAMILY RIGHT AWAY AND I SAID MY HOUSE IS FLOODED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

NOBODY COULD GET TO MY HOUSE BECAUSE EVERYTHING WAS FLOODED.

SO ANY WAY MY POINT IS -- ANOTHER POINT IS OTHER THAN THIS HAPPENING TWICE IN TWO WEEKS I MEAN, SIX WEEKS.

WE HAD A MEETING AT -- I AM A NEIGHBOR TO DAN ZAMORA.

WE HAD A MEETING AT HIS HOUSE A COUPLE OF WEEKS -- ABOUT A WEEK AGO, I GUESS. ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS SAID THAT HE HAD CHECKED WITH THE REAL ESTATE AGENCY AND SAID THAT THE VALUE OF OUR HOME HAVE DROPPED SOMEWHERE UP TO 75%.

I AM A WIDOW. I LIVE BY MYSELF.

THIS IS ALL I HAVE IS MY HOUSE, MY CAR AND A RV.

THOSE ARE MY MAIN ASSETS. THE RV -- THE WATER IN THE BACK OF MY YARD WAS TWO-AND-A-HALF FEET DEEP.

ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM OF THE RV ON THE BACK SIDE.

I AM REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE VALUE OF MY HOUSE.

IF I TRIED TO SELL IT TODAY, I DON'T THINK I COULD GET $.10 FOR IT. AND I KNOW THE COUNTY IS OUT THERE WORKING TO DIG THE DITCHES OUT AND EVERYTHING, BUT I HAVE BEEN THERE 33 YEARS. HAVEN'T FLOODED.

AND THIS IS JUST DEVASTATING. IF THEY DON'T FIX THE PROBLEM, WHAT ARE WE TO DO? AND WE CAN'T SELL THE HOUSES.

I KNOW IN MY LINE, THERE ARE SIX HOUSES IN A ROW THAT ARE FLOOD IN THE INSIDE CIRCLE. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING Y' Y'ALL'S ATTENTION. SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY, REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE BECAUSE THIS IS -- THIS IS US.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU EVER HAD YOUR HOUSE FLOODED, BUT IT IS A DEVASTATING THING TO GO THROUGH WITH THE CLEANUP.

ALL YOUR LOSSES. IT IS DEVASTATING.

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SO ANYWAY, -- AND I WILL SEND ALL OF MY REPORT TO -- I BELIEVE IT IS DEANNA DAVIS, I THINK.

>> KING. DEANNA KING, MAN.

>> OKAY. I WILL SEND ALL OF MY -- WHEN I GET BACK TO SCHOOL BECAUSE I LOST MY COMPUTER BACK IN THE FLOOD. WHEN I GET BACK TO SCHOOL, I WILL -- TODAY I WILL SEND ALL THOSE FOLDERS TO HER.

SHE CAN LOOK AT WHAT I AM DEALING WITH.

WE FINISHED THE FIRST FLOOD REPORT INSURANCE AND NOW THEY ARE STARTING ON MY SECOND CLAIM.

ANYWAY, IT IS A MESS. AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL LETTING

ME TALK TODAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THE NEXT PERSON WE HAVE IS KAREN VAUGHN. AND FOLLOWED BY ROGER POWELL.

AND EXCUSE ME I JUST WANT TO SAY, AGAIN, TO REMIND THE PUBLIC WHO MIGHT HAVE BEEN VIEWING.

IN PUBLIC COMMENT. JUST THE RULES OF THE GAME.

WE ALLOW OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK AND WE DON'T SPEAK BACK. DON'T TAKE THAT AS ANYTHING US FOLLOWING RULES, BUT I AM GOING TO INVITE YOU IF YOUR TIME PERMITS TO STAY WITH US. THE NEXT PIECE OF OUR AGENDA WILL DEAL WITH DISASTERS, FLOODS ARE A PART OF THOSE DISASTERS AND THEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO -- TO SAY SOMETHING. THAT IS JUST IF YOUR TIME PERMITS. YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.

>> THANK YOU. KAREN VAUGHN, 3627 COUNTY ROAD 52 B. FORTUNATELY FOR ME MY HOME WAS NOT FLOODED. BUT I AM ASKING THE COURT TO CONSIDER THE COMMENTS THAT MR. ZAMORA MADE.

WHEN YOU GET IN YOUR AGENDA -- I NOTICE YOU ARE DEALING WITH THE ISSUES THAT YOU JUST ST STATED, JUDGE.

REMEMBER US A AREAS IN NUECES COUNTY THAT ARE NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS. I WOULD APPRECIATE ANYTHING YOU CAN TO DO HELP ME AND MY NEIGHBORS.

THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, MA'AM. THE NEXT PERSON -- YES, SIR?

ROGER POWELL. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS. I APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO ME THIS MORNING. I THINK I AM GOING TO ANSWER A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FLOODING OUT THERE.

I ALSO LIVE OFF -- I AM GOING TO READ THIS, JUDGE, AND I WILL GET TO MY ADDRESS IN MY COMMENTS.

I AM JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ IT.

AGAIN, GOOD MORNING. JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, I WANT TO THANK YOU THIS MORNING FOR LISTENING TO ME, BUT I WARN YOU UP FRONT RIGHT NOW JUDGE, YOU ARE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO LIKE ME BEFORE I GET THROUGH HERE. YOUR HONOR, WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM. AND FOR THE RECORD MY HOUSE HAS BEEN FLOODED FOUR TIMES. IT'S NICE.

BUT AS I WAS SAYING, WE HAD A BIG PROBLEM IN THE NORTHWEST PART OF COUNTY. WHEN I SAY "WE,""US" A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE MOVING IN OUT THERE.

AND I MEAN A LOT OF US. JUDGE, IT USED TO BE THE COUNTRY WHEN I MOVED OUT THERE. AND FOR THE RECORD, I LIVE AT 3564 COUNTY ROAD 48, THAT ON THE WEST SIDE OF HIGHWAY 77.

I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 47 YE YEARS.

AND OUT OF THAT -- AND THAT -- I ACTUALLY LIVE BETWEEN HIGHWAY 77 AND COUNTY ROAD 188. JUDGE, I HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THIS FLOODING PROBLEM 45 OF 47 YEARS THAT I LIVED THERE.

JUDGE, I AM TIRED OF HAVING WATER COME THROUGH MY HOUSE EVERY TIME IT RAINS MORE THAN FIVE INCHES.

IT IS -- IT IS NOW FLOODING IN PLACES THAT NEVER HAVE FLOODED -- NEVER HAVE. AND IT IS GETTING WORSE.

JUDGE, BY NO MEANS WAS I UNDER ANY IMPRESSION WHEN I MOVED OUT THERE THAT I WAS GOING TO BE ALL ROSES AND STUFF.

I DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS AND DRAINAGE OR NOTHING LIKE THAT.

WE MOVED THERE TO RAISE OUR DAUGHTER.

TO HAVE HORSES. TO LIVE IN THE COUNTRY AND TO BE PART OF THE 4-H AND FAA PROGRAMS. JUDGE, FIRST TIME IT FLOODED OUT THERE, I HAD BEEN THERE TWO YEARS AND THE WATER JUST CAME UP TO OUR ANKLES.

NOW IT COMES UP TO OUR KNEES AND IN SOME PLACES UP TO OUR WASTE. JUDGE, WE CAN FIX THIS PROBLEM IF ONLY SOMEONE WOULD JUST LISTEN TO ME OR US.

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JUDGE, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT Y'ALL'S COMMUNITY.

THERE IS A 13-NAME PETITION BROUGHT BEFORE THE COUNTY JUDGE BY THE COMMUNITY THAT LIVES OFF -- WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY BEHIND THE NEW COUNTY ROAD OF 52.

ANYWAY, IT WAS GIVEN TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS FLO FLOODING.

THE COUNTY DUG A DITCH TO RELIEVE A PROBLEM.

ONLY, JUDGE, YOU CAN NOT PUT WATER -- IT IS AGAINST THE LAW FOR ONE COMMUNITY TO PUT WATER DOWN ON ANOTHER COMMUNITY.

AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO US.

WE LIVE DOWNSTREAM FROM Y'ALL. THE SECOND TIME WAS WHEN WE BUILT THE BUILT THE NUECES COUNTY CO-OP DUG ANOTHER DITCH THROUGH A HOLDING POND AND THAT WATER IS NOW COMING DOWN ON US.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN STREAM OFF OF COUNTY ROAD 50, THEY NOW HAVE WATER COME INTO THEIR HOMES AND STUFF LIKE THAT PLUS MINE. MY WIFE AND OTHERS GOT A PETITION OF 150 NAMES. IT WAS GIVEN TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AT THAT TIME COUNTY COMMISSIONER MCKENZIE WAS OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONER. AND GUESS WHAT HAPPENED, NOTHING. NOTHING MORE THAN BS AND A LOT OF LIP SERVICE. AND JUDGE, HERE WE ARE.

WE ARE STILL FIGHTING THIS PROBLEM.

THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT CUT DOWN 1889 FIVE FEET.

THAT HIGHWAY -- FM 189 USED TO STOP THE WATER COMING FROM THAT DIRECTION BUT WHEN THEY CUT IT DOWN FIVE FEET, IT NOW LOOKS LIKE A RAGING RIVER. WHICH ALL OF THAT COMES DOWN ON ALL OF Y'ALL AND ME. THEY ALSO DID THIS ON HIGHWAY 77, YOUR HONOR. WHEN YOU GO TO THE END OF COUNTY ROAD 48 AND 77, THEY HAVE TO BLOCK IT OFF DURING ANY KIND OF RAIN OF FIVE INCHES OR MORE BECAUSE IT FLOODS THAT HIGHWAY OR ACCESS ROAD THERE AND STOPS THE BUSINESSES DOWN THERE FROM DOING BUSINESS BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T GET IN THERE. I HAVE A CALL -- I CALL OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONER AT THE TIME KAREN VAUGHN, AND YOUR HONOR SHE DIDN'T EVEN RETURN ME THE COURTESY OF RETURNING MY PHONE CALL. THE ONLY PERSON WHOEVER TRIED TO HELP US CASS COMMISSIONER MIKE PUSLY.

EVERY TIME HE TRIED, SOMEONE OR SOMETHING STOPPED ME.

MIKE CAME TO MY HOUSE ONE DAY AND ASKED ME HOW TO FIX THIS PROBLEM AND TO HELP HIM -- OR AT LEAST SHOW HIM HOW TO RELIEVE IT. YOUR HONOR, THAT'S ALL I AM ASKING. BY NO MEANS AM I UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU WILL STOP THE FLOODING OUT THERE.

I AM ASKING YOU TO DO THE WORK TO RELIEVE IT -- RELIEVE IT SIX INCHES OR SO OR A FOOT. THE OLD FARMERS THAT SHOWED ME IN -- WHAT IT WOULD TAKE AND MR. MOSLEY WAS A FARMER OUT THERE. THAT LAND IS NOW SOLD AND TURFCO GRASS COMPANY THAT GOES UNDER WATER.

JUDGE, OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONER MR. HERNANDEZ AND THE COUNTY ENGINEER AND THE ROADWAY FOREMAN MR. JERRY GARCIA AND I KNOW JERRY FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.

HE IS REAL GOOD FRIENDS WITH MY WIFE AND EVERYTHING AND TOGETHER WE STOOD OUT IN A FLOODED ROAD.

AND WE DISCUSS THE HOW TO FIX THIS.

PROBLEM. JUDGE, IT WOULD TAKE THE HELP OF THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, THE CITY OF ROBS TOWN, THE D.O.T., THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT, AND A LOT OF THE PROBLEM -- A LOT OF THIS PROBLEM IS THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT AND THE D.O.T., IT IS THEIR FOUGHT. AND, YES, JUDGE, I AM GOING TO DISCUSS SOMETHING HERE THAT NOBODY LIKES, BUT IT MAY TAKE A RAKE TO RAISE A $.05 ON EVERYBODY'S TAXES TO FORM A FLOOD COMMISSION. THEY HAD SEVERE FLOOD PROBLEMS AND HAVE A FLOODING COMMISSION AND THEY HAVE SOLVED A LOT OF

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THEIR FLOODING PROBLEMS. JUDGE, I KNOW WHEN HAVE TO INCREASE SOMEBODY'S TAXES, PEOPLE SAY HECK NO.

I GUESS WHEN THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE KINGS CROSSING AREA OR THE CREEK AREA START HAVING WATER COMING INTO THEIR HOMES AND IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. BECAUSE IT IS COMING -- IT HAS COME VERY CLOSE TO DOING IT. WE MIGHT GET SOMETHING DONE.

IT IS GOING TO TAKE -- IT IS GOING TO DO UNLESS WE DO SOMETHING TO TRY TO FIX THE PROBLEM.

JUDGE, MARK MY WORDS, FLOODING IS GOING TO GET WORSE.

AND IT IS ALSO GOING TO GET WORSE IN THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. JUDGE, I WARNED YOU FIRST AT THIS -- OF OUR LITTLE GET TOGETHER HERE TODAY THAT I WOULD PROBABLY MAKE YOU MAD. WELL, WE ARE AT THAT POINT.

JUDGE, I FOUND OUT THE OTHER DAY YOU HAVE SPENT $400,000 TO BUILD A DOG PARK AT HAZEL B BASEMORE PARK.

I HAD TO GO DOWN THERE AND SEE THIS FOR MYSELF.

FIRST OFF, JUDGE, YOU ARE BUILDING THAT PARK RIGHT NEXT TO A PLAYGROUND. MAYBE FOUR TO FIVE FEET, EIGHT FEET FROM A PLAYGROUND. SECOND, YOU ARE ONLY ABOUT FOUR FOOT OR FIVE FOOT FROM A SWING SET.

JUDGE, KIDS ARE PLAYING THERE OR WILL PLAY THERE.

YOU HAVE CREATED, TO ME, A HEALTH PROBLEM.

KIDS -- I GUARANTEE WILL YOU GO INTO THAT DOG PARK.

AND IF YOU WANT ME TO TELL YOU WHAT THE HEALTH PROBLEM IS, I WILL GET INTO THAT IF YOU WANT ME TOO.

BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, I AM GOING TO FINISH READING MY SPEECH.

JUDGE, DON'T YOU THINK THAT WE COULD HAVE FOUND BETTER USAGE OF THAT $400,000 FOR FIXING THE FLOODING PROBLEM OR THE VERY LEAST, JUDGE, COUNTY ROADS OUT THERE -- MINE NOW -- I DON'T MEAN POTHOLES. I AM TALKING -- I MEAN TEAR THE FRONT END OF YOUR CAR -- FRONT END OFF.

HOLES IN MY ROAD NOW. THE ONLY GOD SIGN THEY ARE FIXING TO REDO THAT ROAD. THAT WILL BE ANOTHER MESS.

THAT $400,000, I THINK, COULD HAVE BEEN SPENT SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT FIXES A LOT OF PROBLEMS. I BET HALF OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU SPENT $400,000 TO ME -- IN A POSITION I AM, THAT IS A STUPID THING TO DO.

THE MONEY COULD HAVE BEEN SPENT ELSEWHERE.

JUDGE, I AM ASKING YOU, OUR NUECES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THE COUNTY ENGINEER AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU COME OUT AND LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO FIXING THIS PROBLEM. JUDGE, YOU MIGHT BE SURPRISED WHAT YOU MIGHT LEARN ABOUT THAT PART OF THE COUNTY.

I WILL USE MY TRUCK, MY GAS, AND JUDGE I WILL TAKE YOU AND WHOEVER ELSE MIGHT COME. I MIGHT EVEN TAKE YOU OUT TO

LUNCH. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WOULD LIKE

THAT. >> I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH ONE MORE THING, JUDGE. AND I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SAY THIS BUT I AM. A WISE MAN ONCE SAY BEES DON'T WASTE THEIR TIME EXPLAINING TO FLIES WHY HONEY IS BETTER THAN CRAP. AND, YOUR HONOR, THAT IS WHAT I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE BEEN GETTING FOR 47 YEARS.

JUST A BUNCH OF CRAP. PLEASE COME OUT AND LET ME SHOW YOU HOW TO FIX THIS. ALL I WANT TO DO IS SHOW YOU PERSONALLY OR SOMEBODY, MR. HERNANDEZ.

I WILL BE HAPPY TO SHOW HIM EXACTLY.

AND OUR PROBLEM, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, STARTS AT YOUR PLACE AND GOES ALL THE WAY SO VIOLET. THEY GOT TO FIX THE PROBLEM ALL THE WAY TO THERE. BUT AS WELL AS EVERYBODY SITTING HERE KNOWS WHAT IT IS GOING TO TAKE.

MONEY. THAT IS ALL IT TAKES.

THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. >> TO LISTENING.

HOPE YOU DIDN'T GET TOO MAD AT ME.

>>JUDGE CANALES: NO, I DIDN'T. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. AND AT THIS TIME, CONCLUDES WHAT I HAVE, TYNER, ON MY SHEET AND I WILL TAKE A QUICK LOOK AGAIN TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NOBODY -- WELCOME.

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NOBODY ONLINE THAT IS WAITING. IF YOU ARE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND BY USING YOUR VIRTUAL H HAND.

SEEING NONE, I AM GOING TO MOVE TO AT LEAST ASK, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE COURT ROOM AT THIS MOMENT WHO IS HERE IN RECOGNITION OF ONE OF OUR RESOLUTIONS FOR MY FRIEND GUS

CARGILE? >> I WAS TOLD BY HUGO THAT

LINDA IS NOT GOING TO COME. >>JUDGE CANALES: IS NOT CO COMING. FOR JUDGE THAT NEEDS TO -- I WILL POSTPONE THAT LATER IN THE AGENDA.

IT IS IT IS VERY IMPORTANT, BUT I THINK THAT WE CAN SKIP IT FOR RIGHT NOW. SO I AM SKIPPING ITEM F 1.

AND I AM GOING TO SKIP, DALE, WITH YOUR BLESSING G 1 AND GIVE BACK TO IT TO GIVE IT ITS PROPER.

AND I WILL GET TO GENERAL INFORMATION REPORTS.

MELISSA, ON A TIME CONSTRAINT AND WILL DO A LITTLE BIT.

LET'S LET ANNETTE GO FIRST TO LET HER GET BACK TO THE PUBLIC PUB BUSINESS OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND SEE IF YOU TALK OF THE TWO DISASTER DECLARATIONS OF FLOODING.

WHILE THESE TWO PEOPLE ARE HERE, THEY NEED TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND WE CAN AT LEAST MAKE SOME COMMENT, ALTHOUGH I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

THANK YOU FOR SIGNING UP. AND NOT APPROPRIATE FOR US TO ADDRESS. I WILL HAVE IT ON A PRESENTATION OF AUGUST 4, AUGUST 4 IS THE NEXT COURT.

I WILL LET YOU MAKE A FULL PRESENTATION AND INVITE THE PUBLIC BACK, PARTICULARLY THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME.

AND THIS WILL GIVE US SOME TIME TO VISIT WITH THEM INDIV INDIVIDUALLY, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A GOAL OF MINE.

IF YOU SIGN UP AND YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT FLOODING, MELISSA AND I WANT TO TALK TO YOU. AND WE ARE ALSO GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION SO WE CAN PROVIDE WITH YOU ACCURATE, UPDATED, YOU KNOW, INFO.

I AM NOT GOING TO ADDRESS THE DOG PARK BECAUSE THAT IS NOT APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME. AND I ONLY WISH I HAD THAT KIND OF POWER MOMENTARILY THAT I WOULD DO ALL THESE THINGS ALL BY MYSELF. BUT THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS.

IT TRULY IS A DEMOCRACY UP HERE AND WE GOVERN AS A WHOLE.

BUT I CAN ADDRESS FLOODING AND I AM THE MANAGE MANAGER AND I

[1. Discuss the COVID-19 response, plans for COVID-19 testing, vaccinations, alternative care sites, Governor Orders, Supreme Court Orders, amended Orders, and activities related to are economic recovery, administration of Emergency Rental Assistance Program (ERAP); receive update from the Nueces County Emergency Operations Center.]

WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT IN THE GENERAL INFORMATION REPORT.

ANNETTE, START WITH COVID. AND AGAIN NOT TO CUT YOU SHORT, BUT IF YOU GIVE US THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY.

WE KNOW WE NEED TO HIT HIGH POINTS.

WHY DON'T YOU TAKE US THROUGH THOSE AND GREAT TO DISASTER.

>> SURE, ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY. IT WILL BE A QUICK UPDATE.

I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION BUT I WILL MAKE IT QUICK.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. ON THE FIRST SLIDE, WHAT I REALLY WANT TO POINT OUT FOR NUECES COUNTY, FOR FULLY VACCINATED INDIVIDUALS, WE HAVE 40.44%, WHICH IS LESS THAN THE UNITED STATES AT 44% AND MORE THAN THE STATE OF TEXAS WHICH IS AT 39%. SO THE GOOD NEWS HERE THOUGH IS THAT WE HAVE HAD OVER 300,000, JUDGE -- 303,000 INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN VACCINATED WITH AT LEAST ONE DOSE.

WE JUST NEED FOR THEM TO COME BACK TO GET THEIR SECOND VACCINE AND HAVE MORE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE PROTECTED.

NEXT SLIDE. THE OTHER PART OF THAT I WANTED TO MENTION THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ELIGIBLE TO GET VACCINATED AND WE ALL KNOW THAT IS 12 YEARS AND UP AT 47% OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HERE IN NUECES COUNTY THAT ARE VACCINATED. THAT IS 47%.

AND THEN FOR THE VULNERABLE POPULATION THAT WE HAVE ALL BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT, 65 YEARS AND UP OR CLOSER TO 72% FULLY VACCINATED. SO WITH THAT SLIDE, I WANTED TO DO A QUICK REMINDER THAT WE HAD OUR FIRST PEEK IN JULY OF LAST YEAR. OUR SECOND PEEK WAS IN JANUARY RIGHT AFTER THE VACCINES WERE RELEASED.

AND WE STARTED HURRYING TO TRY TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE VACCINATED AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE NUMBERS STARTED COMING DOWN AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAD SOME CONTROL OVER THIS VIRUS.

I WANT TO FOCUS ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

THE NEXT TWO MONTHS, JUNE AND JULY.

IF YOU LOOK AT JUNE AND JULY AND YOU PULL THOSE OUT, IN JUNE, IT LOOKED LIKE WE ARE DOING OKAY, 200, 200, 162.

THEN FOURTH OF JULY WEEK, ABOUT 200 CASES OF COVID-19.

THEN WHAT HAPPENED ABOUT A WEEK LATER.

WHAT HAPPENED WAS 100% INCREASE IN COVID CASES.

THAT IS KIND OF WHAT WE IN T THEED, -- WHAT WE NOTICED.

WE NOTICED A BLIP AND KEPT A CLOSE EYE ON IT.

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WHAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT WAS ON WHAT WAS ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

WHAT IS REALLY TROUBLESOME ON JULY 8, WE NOTICED PLATEAUING AROUND 20, 30 HOSPITALIZATIONS A DAY FOR THE LAST MONTH OR SO AND WE NOTICED ON JULY 8, WE JUMPED UP TO 42 HOSPITA HOSPITALIZATIONS IN ONE DAY. AND THE NUMBERS CONTINUED TO RISE TO 44, 49, 50, 57 TO 5, AND YESTERDAY THEY WERE AT 69 HOSPITALIZATIONS. SO THE HOSPITALIZATIONS WAS AN INCREASE OF 245% AND THE ICU CASES WAS AN INCREASE OF 155%.

SO THAT IS VERY CONCERNING. SO WHAT WE REALLY BELIEVE IS THAT THE FOURTH OF JULY HOLIDAY WAS PROBABLY THE CULPRIT COMBINED WITH PROBABLY A MORE VIRULENT VIRUS THIS IS CIRCULATING HERE WHICH IS THE DELTA VARIANT.

WHILE WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN AN IDENTIFICATION THAT WE DO HAVE DELTA HERE IN NUECES COUNTY, WE DO BELIEVE THAT LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS THAT DELTA IS HERE AND CIRCULATING IN NUECES

COUNTY. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST EXPLAIN VERY QUICKLY WHY WE DON'T KNOW. EXPLAIN HOW THE STATE TESTS AND HOW WE DON'T TEST FOR DELTA, HOW IT GOES TO THE STATE.

PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

FOR THE VARIANT -- THERE IS A LOT OF, THE ALPHA, BETA, THE EPSILON, THE -- THERE ARE TEN VARIANTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. WHEN WE TEST, WE TEST AND TELL YOU ARE POSITIVE FOR COVID-19, BUT WE CANNOT TELL YOU WHAT VARIANT YOU HAVE. WE CAN ONLY TELL YOU THAT YOU HAVE COVID-19. IN ORDER TO KNOW WHICH VARIANT IT HAS TO BE GENE ESEQUENCED AND SENT OFF TO THE STATE AND SENDING OUT FIVE SAMPLES A WEEK AND THE STATE TESTS ABOUT 5% TO 10%. AND NOW MOVED TO 15% AND TRYING TO GET TO 20% OF TESTING OF ALL THE TEST SHE IS RECEIVED WILL DO A SAMPLING FOR G GENOSEQUENCING TO FIND OUT WHICH ONES HAVE THE VARIANT. THEY STOPPED THAT ABOUT A FEW WEEKS AGO AND WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW HAVE A CASE AND IT LOOKS CONCERNING AND WE HAVE ONE LIKE FROM A CAMP.

WE HAVE SOME CAMPS OVER THE SUMMER AND THERE WERE MULTIJURISDICTIONAL AND WARRANTED SENDING IT OUT FOR GENOSEQUENCING AND WE STENT TO THE STATE TO DO THAT.

IT TAKES ABOUT FOUR >> IF YOU HAVE BOTH VACCINES FOR PFIZER AND MODERNA, IT LOOKS LIKE ACCORDING TO THE PFIZER STUDIES, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE AT 8% PROTECTION.

IF YOU ONLY HAVE THE ONE VACCINE, YOU ARE CLOSER TO 33% PROTECTION AGAINST THE DELTA. SO NEXT SLIDE AND THIS IS THE FINAL SLIDE. AND WHAT I WANT TO SHOW HERE IS THAT PEOPLE WHO GET VACCINATED CAN HAVE COVID-19.

THEY CAN ACTUALLY HAVE WHAT WE CALL A BREAKTHROUGH CASE AND THEY CAN END UP WITH COVID-19. BUT WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS THAT THERE ARE A LOT MORE MILD TO MODERATE SYMPTOMS. THAT MEANS THE VACCINES ARE WORKING AND THAT IS THE REALLY GOOD NEWS. SO WHAT WE ARE FOLLOWING RIGHT NOW IS -- WE ARE FOLLOWING THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HOSPITALIZED. SO WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN NUECES COUNTY ARE FROM THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN FULLY VACCINATED. THOSE 145,000 INDIVIDUALS, WE HAVE SEEN 145 BREAKTHROUGH CASES WHICH IS ABOUT .1% OF THE FULLY VACCINATED. OF THOSE 145, 16 HAVE BEEN HOSPITALIZED. AND FOUR HAVE ACTUALLY PASSED AWAY. SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE INDIVIDUALS BEFORE THAT WE KNOW HAVE PASSED AWAY.

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THEY HAD OTHER -- >>JUDGE CANALES:

CO-MORBIDITIES. >> CO-MORBIDITIES, CANCER, THERE IS ONE THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY THAT WE KNOW OF.

THE VACCINE OF THE 145, 67 RECEIVED MODERNA VACCINE.

51 THE PFIZER AND 26 THE J & J. THAT IS ALL I HAVE IF YOU HAVE

ANY QUESTIONS. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL OFFER COMMISSIONERS TO ASK ANY QUESTION AND LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT WE WILL HEAR FROM MELISSA KNOW.

AND WE ARE STILL VACCINATING EVERY SINGLE DAY AT LA PAP PALMERA MALL. THE MALL IS OPEN, WE ARE OPEN.

AND SO EASY AND CONVENIENT. ALL THREE VACCINES ARE AVAILABLE AND ANNETTE AND I AND THE CITY AND CHRISTUS OUR COUNTY HEALTH PROVIDER ARE WORKING FEVERISHLY AND I THINK WE WILL BE ABLE TO ANNOUNCE A PUBLIC MESSAGING CAMPAIGN.

THE WHY. THERE IS ALWAYS A WHY.

WHY YOU DECIDE MAKING THE BEST DECISION FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. WE ARE NOT HERE TO PUSH ANYBODY AND ASK YOU WHAT IS YOUR WHY. WE ALL HAVE GOT ONE AND NICE TO SHARE. THIS PUBLIC MESSAGING CAMPAIGN WILL BE LAUNCHED VERY SOON. MY HOPE IS NEXT WEEK.

WE ARE PUTTING THE FINAL TOUCHES ON IT.

AND WE ARE ALSO PREPARING FOR CHILDREN.

WE KNOW THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO GIVE US GUIDANCE THROUGH THE STATE, THROUGH CDC, AND WE BELIEVE THAT CHILDREN UNDER 12 WILL BE GETTING A VACCINATION IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE AND, THEREFORE, THAT MEANS WE HAVE A NEW ROLE AND A NEW RESPONSIBILITY AND WE NEED FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ARE

PREPPING FOR THAT. >> YES, FIVE TO 11 YEARS OF AGE LOOKS LIKE MID-SEPTEMBER THE VACCINE WILL BE READY.

FROM SIX MONTHS TO FOUR YEARS OF AGE, LOOKS LIKE MID-WINTER.

YES, WE WILL CONTINUE TO VACCINATE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, MAGGIE.

OUR WORK IS NEVER DONE AND WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR WORK. THIS IS A GOOD PRESENTATION.

IT IS AVAILABLE TO YOU, COMMISSIONERS, TO STUDY AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO BRING YOU THE MOST UP-TO-DATE AND TRANSPARENT INFORMATION. IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, WE WILL PAUSE. AND WE WILL ASK MELISSA TO -- TO COME IN AND ANNETTE, WE WILL DO MORE COVID DISCUSSIONS MOST LIKELY, BUT WE WILL LET YOU GET BACK TO PUBLIC HEALTH.

AND, AGAIN, OUR GRATITUDE. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. JUNLZ JUDGE MELISSA, I AM GOING TO HAVE YOU SKIP ITEMS 2 AND 3 UNDER GENERAL INFORMATION

[4. Discuss and consider May and July 2021 Flooding and Rain Events recovery; receive update from Emergency Management department, staff; and related matters.]

REPORT AND MOVE STRAIGHT TO THE MAY AND JULY 2021 FLOODING AND RAIN EVENTS AND GET THE UPDATE. THOSE OF YOU AT HOME, MELISSA MUGI A EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR AND SHE WILL WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT YOU HAVE HER NUMBER TO CAPTURE YOUR INFORMATION AND DATA AND SHE CAN BE A GOOD RESOURCE FOR US.

MELISSA, I AM GOING TO ASK FOR ONE MORE MOMENT.

MISS DORSEY I MAY A PROMISE TO A JUDGE AT 10:00.

CAN YOU BUY US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.

MELISSA, PLEASE CONTINUE UNTIL I FORCE TO YOU STOP OR PAUSE.

>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYBODY HERE TODAY REGARDING THE FLOODING IN NUECES COUNTY.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE FIRST STEP IS THE DOCUMENTATION SIDE. OBVIOUSLY WE ARE IN A PINCH ON THESE EVENTS AS THEY ARE LOCALLY DECLARED AND VICE PRESIDENT BEEN DECLARED FURTHER THAN THAT BY THE STATE OR OBVIOUSLY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

OBVIOUSLY THESE NORMAL PROGRAMS THAT OPEN DURING A FEDERAL DISASTER -- AFTER A DISASTER I SHOULD SAY THE INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE RECOVERY PROCESS WOULD OPEN AND WE WOULD ENCOURAGE TO YOU GO THROUGH THAT.

NOW WE ARE NOT SEEING THAT RIGHT NOW.

WE ARE NOT SEEING THESE TWO EVENTS BEING DECLARED OR BEING TALKED ABOUT BEING DECLARED, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN -- AND HATE TO SAY IT OUT LOUD. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANOTHERED INTO EVENT.

THE TIME OF THE YEAR FOR THOSE TROPICAL SYSTEMS AND THERE IS POTENTIAL THERE TO HAVE ANOTHER EVENT WHICH IS GOOD FOR YOU TO BE AWARE OF AND CONSCIOUS OF BUT ALSO KNOW THAT THAT KIND OF BRINGS UP THE POTENTIAL FOR US TO CLUMP ALL OF THESE EVENTS TOGETHER AND GET THAT DECLARATION.

NOTHING ABOUT THAT IS GUARANTEED AND A POSSIBILITY AND WHAT HAPPENED IN 2015 WHEN THE FLOODS WERE FEDERALLY DECLARED. ONE SUGGESTION TO YOU RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE IT IS OPEN, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE THAT DECLARATION, YOU CAN GO TO WWW.TETUM.TEXAS.GOV AND START THE INITIAL PROCESS OF UPLOADING PHOTOS AND DOCUMENTATION. ANYTHING YOU HAVE ALREADY PAID FOR AND HAVE THE RECEIPTS, ALL THAT CAN BE UPLOADED.

THAT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING FOR YOU OTHER THAN GET YOU PREPARED IF THERE IS A DECLARATION OR ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS.

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WHERE IT HELPS YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL, IT IS KEEPING YOU IN TRACK ON THE RECOVERY PROCESS ON YOUR OWN.

WE HAVE A GREAT SOCIAL SERVICE AND GREAT VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE USED TO HELPING YOU RECOVER AFTER HURRICANES AND VERY SIMILAR DAMAGES FROM STORM SURGE -- EXCUSE ME, FROM STORM SURGE FOR HAVING FLOODWATERS ENTER YOUR HOME. VERY SKILLED ORGANIZATIONS.

AND IN OUR OFFICE WILL HELP YOU IF YOU FIND THAT PROCESS

FRUSTRATING AND OR CHALLENGING. >> ABSOLUTELY.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE BACK PAGE OF MY UPDATE NOTES HERE, I WROTE ALL OF YOUR NAMES, YOUR ADDRESSES AND SOME OF THE STATEMENTS YOU MADE SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE HAVE THIS ON FILE IN OUR OFFICE. I WANT TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO URGE EVERYBODY, WHETHER IT IS THE FLOODING, A HURRICANE, A WINTER STORM. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU CAN DO IS REACH OUT TO MY OFFICE.

AGAIN, I AM MELISSA MUGIA, THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR FOR THE COUNTY. WE TRY DO OUR BEST TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE COMMISSIONER.

THEY CALL US WHEN THEY HEAR FROM YOU GUYS ARE, BUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO REACH OUT TO US.

>> MY OFFICE NUMBER 361-8 361-888-0513.

AND SINCE WE ARE NOT ALWAYS SILTING RIGHT AT OUR DESK, MY CELL PHONE 361-533-2355. AND THIS IS A 24-7 HOUR PHONE.

FEEL FREE AT ANY TIME TO REACH OUT TO US AND GOT MORE INFORMATION SPEAKING IN PUBLIC COMMENT THAN DELIVERED BY PHONE ALWAYS AND COMMISSIONERS TELLING ME THERE IS AREA OF CONCERN. SUPER IMPORTANT OF INDIVIDUALS AND RESIDENTS OF NUECES COUNTY TO REACH OUT TO US.

WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE AT LEAST STARTING THOSE PROCESSES, CONNECT YOU WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE, GIVE YOU WHATEVER GUIDANCE GUIDE GUIDANCE YOU CAN AND START THE PROCESS OF GETTING ASSISTANCE. I DON'T WANT TO SEE US HAVE ANOTHER OCCURRENCE, FLOOD OCCURRENCE AND SO VERY LIKELY AND AT THIS POINT WE HAVE TO WILL HE COVER AS INDIVIDUALS AND IF THERE IS ANOTHER INCIDENT THAT OCCURS THAT KIND OF COMPILES AND ADDS TO THIS, THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR MORE HELP TO OPEN. BUT AT THIS TIME, THAT IS REALLY ALL I HAVE, JUDGE. WE DO HAVE SOME RAIN IN THE FORECAST, SCATTERED RAIN OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS BUT IT IS NOT LOOKING LIKE IT IS GOING TO DROP A LOT -- A LARGE AM

AMOUNT. >> IF YOU CAN JUST STAY RIGHT THERE. USE OUR FEW MINUTES BEFORE.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK, FOLKS.

BUT LET ME HAVE YOU STAY THERE AND HELP ME ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THIS AUDIENCE WANTS TO HEAR.

NUMBER ONE, WE WANT TO HELP YOU.

I AM LOOKING AT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU WHO CAME HERE TODAY.

AND IT IS NOT JUST A WANT, IT IS A WANT BACKED WITH ACTION.

SINCE I TOOK OFFICE HERE, OUR -- WE HAD THREE MAIN PRIORITIES. ONE FOR ME WAS MODERNIZATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE. THE SECOND WAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND THIRD WAS DRAINAGE. WE WENT TO WORK IMMEDIATELY.

DECEMBER 2019, THIS COURT -- NOT EXACTLY THIS COURT, BUT ALMOST THIS COURT BECAUSE WE HAVE A MAKE-UP HIRED AN EXPERT IN THE FIELD OF MASTER DRAINAGE BUT WENT OUT FOR A BIG GRANT.

YOUR PROBLEM IS JUST AS IF PERFECTLY DESCRIBED, YOU SAID THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS FLOODING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

WELL, IT IS EVEN BIGGER THAN THAT.

IT IS THAT WATER SHED IS FL FLOODING THIS WATER SHED THAT IS FLOODING THIS WATER SHED THAT IS FLOODING ALL OF THEM TO BOFFIN BAY. IT TOOK YOU -- MIND YOU WE DID THIS DURING COVID. TOOK US A WHILE AND WE WERE SUCCESSFUL AND WE ARE SIGNING THAT PAPERWORK.

GETTING $2.7 MILLION, AND WE ARE GOING TO FIGURE OUT WATER FLOW. NOW I KNOW THAT IS NOT THAT COMFORTABLE BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT A STUDY AND YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED IN 3-D MODELING AND SOLVE THE OVERALL PROBLEM LONG TERM. AND THAT'S WHY YOUR IDEA AND NOTIONS ARE VERY FASCINATE BEING A CONCEPT THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED MANY, MANY TIMES WHICH IS A COMPREHENSIVE TRI-COUNTY DRAINAGE DISTRICT THAT DEALS WITH THE WATER SHEDS. WE DO HAVE DRAINAGE DISTRICTS, BUT THEY ARE VERY ISOLATED. I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW, BECAUSE HE IS SIGNED UP HERE AND THAT MEANS HE CARES, THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR CAME AND WAS GOING -- HE WAS GOING TO KIND OF ANSWER YOU. THAT IS USUALLY NOT HOW WE DO IT. WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO IS HAVE HIM LISTEN TO YOU, FOLLOW UP WITH YOU, AND THEN BRING ALL OF US THE PRESENTATION THAT WILL GET US THE ANSWERS AND ACTION THAT WE NEED. AND THESE FLOODS -- THE REASON MELISSA IS SAYING PLEASE UPLOAD YOUR PHOTOS BECAUSE I DECLARE A DISASTER. THAT IS THE ROLE I HAVE UNDER THE GOVERNMENT -- TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 418.

WHEN I SAW WHAT HAPPENED IN MAY -- WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN IN

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MAY AND HAPPENING IN JULY, WE DECLARED LOCAL DISASTERS.

WHY? TO AVAIL OURSELVES OF MORE RESOURCES. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? EQUIPMENT, PUMPS, MONEY. IT MEANS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HELPING AND NOT HELPING. AND I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO STAY HERE ALL DAY, BUT TO FURTHER EMPHASIZE LATE ON THE AGENDA, CAN TAKE A LOOK, FOLKS FROM NUECES RIVER AUTHORITY AND HELP THE CITY OF DRISCOL AND BANQUETT BECAUSE THEY HAVE PROBLEMS TOO. I HAVEN'T VISITED WITH YOU PERSONALLY AND I CAN TELL THAT YOU WE WALKED THOSE STREETS IN THIS COMMUNITY. WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER THIS PHENOMENAL, UNBELIEVABLE HISTORIC TRI-COUNTY, WE DIDN'T DO IT JUST IN ISOLATION. WE GOT IT FROM THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND THEY HIRED THEIR OWN FOLKS BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT. YOU KNOW WHO IS NEXT? OSO IS NEXT. HOW CLOSE THEY CAME? BY THE HAIR OF THEIR CHINNY CHIN CHIN.

OKAY. I PROMISE YOU I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND THERE ARE QUICK FIXES.

BUT THE BIG FIX IS VERY COMPREHENSIVE A AND VERY DETAILED AND DOES REQUIRE SOPHISTICATED MODELING AND ENGINEERING. WHY? BECAUSE MELISSA IS AN EXPERT IN EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS AND WHAT SHE KNOWS AND SHE EDUCATES OUR TEAM ABOUT IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS HOW -- WHY IS IT HE HAS LIVED THERE FOR 45 YE YEARS. ALL OF YOU HAVE LIVED THERE.

DON'T YOU SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT? IT IS A PARTISAN EARN AND A TREND.

AND -- IT IS A PATTERN AND A TREND AND THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT. NOT JUST EXTREME WEATHER.

IT IS MORE BUILDING. MORE CONCRETE.

ASK YOURSELF WHY HOUSTON HAS THE CONCRETE FLOODING THEY HAVE. WHAT I AM TRYING TO TELL YOU IS, CHANGE HAS EVOLVED OVER DECADES AND WE EXPECT DIG OUT BY DIGGING CULVERTS. CLEANING YOUR CULVERTS AND OPENING PIPES WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.

A ACCOUNT ENGINEER HAS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, VISITED WITH ME WHILE YOU WERE TALKING AND HE WANTS TO COME BACK, INVITE YOU BACK IF YOU WERE WILLING ON AUGUST 4.

IF YOU CAN'T COME HERE, WE WILL SHOW YOU HOW YOU CAN PARTICIPATE FROM YOUR HOME. ALL YOU NEED IS A COMPUTER OR A PHONE. HE WANTS TO PRESENT SOME ACTION ITEMS HE CAN AT LEAST START. THEY ARE BAND-AIDS.

THE BIG THING WHAT WE ARE DOING AND IT IS REALLY IMPACTFUL AND WE WANT TO YOU GET INVOLVED. IF IT TAKES COMING OUT TO YOU AND SHARING WITH YOU AND WHILE I AM AN ENGINEER, I DRILLED WELLS FOR A LIVING, NOT A CIVIL ENGINEER, BUT WE HAVE CIVIL ENGINEERS AS EXPERTS. THE COUNTY WILL BE LISTENING AND IN ACTION MODE AND I AM WORRIED FOR YOU WHAT MELISSA SAID, AS QUICK AS WE WANT TO BE, WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT YOU OF THE FUTURE FLOODS. THAT IS WHY HAVING HER NUMBER IS CRITICAL. WE CAN'T PUMP OUR WAY OUT OF EVERYTHING, BUT SOMETIMES PUMPS CAN HELP.

CLEANING CULVERTS, OPENING THESE PIPES.

SAME THING HAPPENS IN PORT ARAN US IS.

THE SAME THING -- PORT ARANSUS. THE SAME THING IN LONDON AFFECTING OUR COUNTY THE WAY IT HAS NEVER DONE BEFORE, GRANDE, ROBS TOWN UNDER WATER. WE WERE -- WE HAD OUR HANDS FULL WITHIN THOSE SIX WEEKS. I AM ADVOCATING FOR THE GOVERNOR WHO WILL BE IN TOWN SOON TO DECLARE THIS A DISASTER. WHY? BECAUSE IT KEEPS GOING UP THE CHAIN OF COMMAND.

WE TALKED TO OUR CONGRESSMAN. THE MORE WE GET THE DECLARATION OF THE COMBINED FLOODS, THE BETTER HELPS US HELP PEOPLE LIKE NUECES RIVER AUTHORITY OR YOU AS INDIVIDUALS, MAKE NO MISTAKE, IF YOU HAVE AN EMERGENCY, NOBODY IS ASKING ANY QUESTIONS. NOTHING IS SAYING HOW MUCH DOES IT COST. WE ARE COMING TO HELP YOU.

WE HAVE HIGH WATER VEHICLES. WE HAVE EQUIPMENT, WE HAVE PREPOSITIONED CONTRACTS, AND WE HAVE A STAFF OF EMERGENCY MA MAJORS INCLUDING MYSELF THAT PUT THEIR BOOTS ON AND WE WILL BE THERE. WE HAVE DONE THAT OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS. WE ARE -- WE ARE TRULY HANDS ON. YOU MAY NOT WANT TO LISTEN TO THE REST OF THIS, BUT WHEN YOU GO OUTSIDE.

PLEASE MEET MELISSA MOGIA. PLEASE MEET HER AND EXCHANGE

CARDS. >> JUDGE, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT EVERYONE -- WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT ON AN ITEM THAT IS PERTINENT. WE RECEIVED A LARGE AMOUNT OF FUNDS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT WE -- FOR THE COVID RELIEF. AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE AS THE GENTLEMAN SAID, EVERYTHING COSTS MONEY AND WE HAVE THESE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS ALL OVER THE COUNTY, BUT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT SOME OF THAT MONEY CAN BE USED FOR

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DRAINAGE ISSUES. AND I MET WITH THE CONSULTANT THAT WE USE ON THAT AND SAID IN MY PRECINCT BECAUSE I REPRESENT THE LONDON AREA HAVING -- MAYBE NOT AS BAD AS YOU ARE, BUT HAVING A LOT OF PROBLEMS AND I AM SURE THE REST OF THE COURT AS TOLD THIS GROUP AND OUR PRIORITY FOR MONEY ARE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS AND WE GOT THEM ALL OVER AND FUNDS AVAILABLE THAT WE CAN USE FOR DIFFERENT PROBLEMS AND THAT WE HAVE.

ALSO CONTRACTED TO DO A BIG DRAINAGE STUDY.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE MORE STUDIES AND MORE STUDIES, YOU HAVE TO DO THE STUDIES TO APPLY FOR THE FEDERAL FUNDS AND SOME OF THE FUNDING MECHANISM. DRAINAGE -- I WON'T SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY UP HERE. BUT EVERYBODY ON THE COURT SAYS THAT DRAINAGE IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IN NUECES COUNTY AND WE KNOW WHAT IT IS AND LOOKING AT SERIOUSLY DOING IT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAY NOT AFFECT YOU, BUT HAVE AFFECTED THE LONDON AREA IS THE COUNTY ENGINEER TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO SAID HEY, COMMISSIONER, WE WILL INCREASE THESE STANDARDS WHERE DEVELOPERS CAN'T DEVELOP AREAS WITHOUT DEVELOPING TO A 1 100-YEAR FLOOD. WHICH MEANS ALL THE AREAS BEING DEVELOPED IN NUECES COUNTY NOW INSTEAD OF DEVELOPING TO A F FIVE-YEAR FLOOD WHICH IS WHAT SOME OF HAVE BEEN BEFORE.

HAVE TO DEVELOP TO A 100-YEAR FLOOD.

AND WHAT WE HAVE JUST GOT IT A 150-YEAR FLOOD AND THE RAINS ARE UNBELIEVABLE. WE HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN OUR AMOUNT OF RAIN FOR ENTIRE YEAR AND SOMETHING CRAZY LIKE THAT AND NOT MAKING THAT AS AN EXCUSE.

THIS HAS BEEN AN EXTRAORDINARY YEAR AND WANT THE PEOPLE KNOW NOT ONLY PEOPLE SITTING HERE BUT OUT THERE LISTENING, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT WORKING ON.

WE ARE VERY MUCH FOCUSED AS A COURT OF DOING AND IMPROVING DRAINAGE ALL OVER. AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN.

IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A PETITION SINCE MCKENZIE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHEN MCKENZIE WAS IN OFFICE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WITH BOB BARNES.

THIS IS NOT A LIP SERVICE ISSUE FOR US.

WE WILL SEE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SPENT IN THIS COUNTY IMPROVING DRAINAGE, I BELIEVE, OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.

BUT WE HAD TO GET IT FIRST. WE DIDN'T HAVE THOSE FUNDS OR HAVE THE ABILITY TO JUST TO GO -- IT IS NOT TO RAISE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. ACTUALLY IT MAY BE A BILLION DOLLAR PROBLEM IN NUECES CO COUNTY.

NOT $.050, IT IS WAY MORE THAN THAT.

WE HAD TO GO AND LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVE FUND SOURCES NOT JUST RAISING TAXES BUT OTHER SOURCES.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE HEAR YOU AND WE COULDN'T MAKE COMMENT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT BELIEVE ME I AM LISTENING NO LIP SERVICE.

I DON'T KNOW PERSONALLY WITH YOUR PROBLEM.

AND I THINK YOU WILL FIND HIM NOT TO BE SOMEBODY TO GIVE YOU LIP SERVICE BUT WORK HIS TAIL OFF.

THAT IS WHAT I FOUND FROM THE TIME I HAVE GOTTEN TO KNOW HIM.

I HAVE RATION FROM E-MAILS OF PEOPLE IN MY PRECINCT INVOLVING THIS. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LOCKED IN ON DRAINAGE. I DON'T KNOW HOW FAST YOU MAY HAVE A QUICK FIX, SIR. AND IF YOU DO, COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ WILL LOOK AT IT AND BRING IT BACK TO US.

WE DON'T HAVE A QUICK FIX FOR THE COUNTY AND SICK AND TIRED OF WATCHING IT. SCHOOLS FLOOD IN LONDON AND NEIGHBORHOODS. AND ME, IT IS TOUGH.

THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI HANDLE THE AREA AND WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE AREAS IN THE ETJ, BUT THIS IS GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN US IN AREAS LIKE YOURS FOR FACT THAT THE DRAINAGE PATTERNS THAT HAPPEN IN OTHER PLACES AFFECT, ALL FLOW DOWNSTREAM KIND OF THING AND WE WORK TOGETHER TO DO IT AND JUST NOT SOMETHING WE ARE GIVING LIP SERVICE TOO.

WE ARE REALLY WORKING ON IT. WE SPENT ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF TIME ALREADY AS A COURT, AND, AGAIN, THAT DRAINAGE STUDY MAY BE LIKE HERE WE GO. BUT A 2.7 MILLION DRAINAGE STUDY, JUDGE, WE HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE ONCE WE HAVE THAT IN PLACE AND SHOW WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW, BUT WE SHOW IT IN A FORM THAT IS IN A LEGITIMATE STUDY, WE CAN GO APPLY FOR FUNDS WE CAN'T GET RIGHT NOW AND APPLY FOR GRANTS THAT WE CAN'T GET RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SEE A DRAINAGE STUDY AND AN UP-TO-DATE ONE. THE LAST ONE WAS 15, 20 YEARS AGO. MAYBE MACK IN MCKENZIE, I DON'T KNOW. I AM VERY SORRY FOR YOUR ISSUE AND WE WILL TRY EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP YOU.

BUT PLEASE, AS THE JUDGE SAID, PLEASE GET WITH MELISSA.

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NOT A LONG-TERM FIX BUT WAYS TO HELP YOU IF YOU CALL AND LET THEM KNOW TO GET OUT THERE AND HELP ON A TEMPORARY BASIS WHEN THINGS HAPPEN. I KNOW IT IS NOT A LONG-TERM SOLUTION, BUT UNTIL A LONG-TERM SOLUTION GETS IN PLACE WE WANT TO HELP YOU ON THE SHORT-TERM SOLUTION.

>> REAL QUICK ON THAT NOTE, COMMISSIONER.

I WANT TO BRING OUR HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN FOR 2022.

AND THIS IS GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY FOR NEW PARTNERS TO BE ADDED SPECIFICALLY TO THE PLAN.

THIS OPENS UP GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AND BRINGS KIND OF A COHESION BETWEEN JURISDICTIONS ON THE PLAN AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN ADD ON.

SO WE ARE REACHING OUT TO THE WATER DISTRICTS, THE NUECES RIVER AUTHORITY TO JOIN IN ON OUR HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN TO MAKE DECISIONS TOGETHER AS IT PERTAINS TO FLOODING AND THE FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDS. EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS PUTTING SUMMARIES FOR PROJECTS THAT I BELIEVE.

THESE FUNDS SHOULD GO TOWARD. SOME OF THE FUNDS THAT REALLY DO HAVE TO DO WITH FLOODING AND FLOOD CONTROL.

WE ARE DEFINITELY THINKING ABOUT IT AND DEFINITELY LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL WAYS TO BRING THIS KIND OF COORDINATED EVIDENT TO FIX THE FLOODING HERE IN NUECES COUNTY.

>> I SPOKE TO A LOT OF THESE FOLKS OVER THE WEEKEND AND WALKED THOSE AREAS. AND WE PROMISED Y'ALL THAT WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO GIVE YOU RELIEF AS BEST AS WE COULD.

WHEN CALLED ME AND SAID I NEED TWO GRADE -- THE ONLY PLACE TO GET THEM WAS IN SAN ANTONIO. WE NEED TO GET THEM THERE.

HE TOLD ME WHAT IT WAS GOING TO TAKE MONETARILY.

I GOT WITH MISS CARMICHAEL AND MISS KING, ADMINISTRATIVE SECRETARY, TOLD ME WHAT I COULD USE.

I CALLED ONE AND SAID -- GET THOSE THERE AND THE MONEY WILL BE PULLED OUT OF THIS BUDGET. I HOPE YOU HAVE NOTICED THAT THEY ARE WORKING OUT THERE AND WE ARE TRYING TO DO OUR BEST TO ALLEVIATE YOUR PROBLEM. AND ESPECIALLY GOING INTO THE RAINY SEASON AND HURRICANES. WE ARE IN THE HURRICANE SEASON.

SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME AND WITH ALL OF US.

AND WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO GET OUT THERE AND DO THE BEST WE CAN. THAT I CAN PROMISE.

THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: MELISSA, THANK YOU AGAIN AND COMMISSIONER CHESNEY FOR YOUR COMMENTS. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A WHOLE WORKSHOP OF HOW WE CAN PRIORITIZE THAT AMERICAN RELIEF PLAN ACT. WE WILL INVITE YOU BACK AND CAPTURE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THIS IS HAPPENING. COMMISSIONER CHESNEY IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, WHEN THE GOVERNMENT DECIDED TO GIVE COUNTIES MONEY, THEY BASICALLY GAVE US ARENAS.

THEY SAID WATER, WASTEWATER AND BROADBAND FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT WAS SO BROAD, IT DIDN'T QUITE TELL US WHETHER DRAINAGE OR DRAINAGE PROJECTS WOULD BE ALLOWED.

BUT I GET TO SAY THIS. YOU ARE HEARING IT AND THEY ARE HEARING IT FOR THE FIRST TIME, YESTERDAY I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE DEPUTY SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY IN CHARGE OF ARPA AND PUT THAT QUESTION TO HIM.

AND HE SAID HE WOULD GIVE US AN ANSWER.

MY PERCEPTION THAT HE FELT VERY STRONG THAT DRAINAGE MADE WHAT WE CALL "COMMON SENSE,"YOU KNOW.

AND HE WAS GOING TO GET US A REALLY FORMAL WRITING, BECAUSE UNTIL I GET THAT PERMISSION, THEN THE AUDITOR WILL SAY YES, TREASURY SAID YOU CAN SPEND ON DRAINAGE, BUT WILL IS HERE TO SPEND ON PROJECT THAT CAN MAKE THE MOST DIFFERENCE TO DO QUICKLY AND EFFECTIVELY, AND AT LEAST -- AND A BIG -- A BIG FACTOR. THE MONEY HAS BEEN APPROPRIATED BUT CHOOSING THE RIGHT WAY TO ALLEVIATE THE PROBLEM AND NOT HURTING SOMEBODY DOWN STREAM IS CRITICAL.

THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE DONE IT WRONG BEFORE.

WE DECIDED THAT WE COMMONS SENSED OUR WAY INTO RETENTION PONDS. AND WE NEVER REALLY UNDERSTOOD OUR WATER SHED. AND THIS IS WHERE THE STATE OF TEXAS, ALL OF US AS VOTERS TWO YEARS AGO, VOTED TO PUT $2 BILLION IN THE RAINY DAY FUND THAT FUND GOT AVAILABLE TO COUNTIES ALL OVER TEXAS AND THAT IS THE MONEY WE GOT.

AND IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW HOW THIS ALL HAVE BEEN ACHIEVED FROM YOUR STATE WHO RECOGNIZES THIS IS A CHRONIC PROBLEM. AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WHEN WE ARE NOT FLOODING. YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE? DRY. WE ARE THIS DROUGHT.

SO THEY ARE EXTREME. AND BRENT IS RIGHT.

IT HIT OVER OUR 2015 FLOOD M MARK.

OUR 2015 FLOOD MARK WAS 25 INCHES AND WE HIT 27.

BY THE WAY SCOTT CROSS WITH COASTAL PARKS AND A 911 OF FLOODING THERE AS WELL AND GOT BY WITH THE HAIR OF OUR CHINNY CHIN CHIN WITH THE WATER PUMPS. IF YOU SEE THE CARTOON WHERE

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YOU ARE LITERALLY PUTTING THAT HERE AND IT COMES OUT HERE.

SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS SUPER SERIOUS AND WILL BE MET WITH SERIOUS ACTION. I HOPE THAT OUR WORLD WILL SHOW THAT YOU ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE SHARING OUR STORY AND OUR WORDS MADE A DIFFERENCE THAT WE ARE WITH YOU NOT JUST IN RED RICK, BUT ALWAYS IN AN ACTION PLAN.

I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THAT ALL WITH YOU.

>> BEFORE YOU LEAVE, I FEEL LIKE I AM TALKING TO MY CONSTITUENTS ON VICTORY LANE WHEN I HEAR YOU TALKING ABOUT WE ARE THE LAST ONES THAT GET HEARD.

YOU GO TO THE TOP AND BY THE TIME IT GOES DOWN IN OUR AREA, BISHOP, GRANDE. WE GET THE BULK OF EVERYTHING COMING DOWN. WE GET THE BULK OF IT OVER THERE. YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH? DEALING WITH THE SAME ISSUES. I HEAR YOU AND HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. I HEAR FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND I FEEL FOR THEM. I KNOW THE STUDIES ARE GOOD BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO BENEFIT.

IT MAY TAKE THREE, FOUR YEARS, MAYBE NOT.

TWO, THREE YEARS. I WANT SOMETHING NOW.

INFRASTRUCTURE. WHATEVER WE CAN WORK ON NOW.

I DON'T WANT TO WAIT FOR A TWO TON OR THREE-YEAR PLAN THAT PROBABLY WILL BE GOOD, BUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING -- I WANT -- MY THING IS WHAT CAN WE DO NOW AND I KNOW THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE ASKING. WHAT CAN WE DO NOW EVEN IT IS IT IS A LITTLE BIT. AND I HEAR YOU.

I THINK THAT TXDOT WITH GET INVOLVED AND SHOULD GET INVOLVED. I GOT THEM INVOLVED.

AND WHEN I CALL A MEETING, THEY SHOW UP.

YOU KNOW. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO CALL DIFFERENT PEOPLE, RIGHT. BUT I THINK -- I THINK THAT I -- ALL IN ALL, AND I AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK THAT DERR WE ARE GOING TO WAIT FOR THOSE CLIENTS, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING NOW AND WHATEVER WE CAN DO, LET'S DO IT MY PEOPLE FEEL IT TOO. I SAY "MY PEOPLE" MY CONSTITUENTS IN MY AREA AND WE HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR THEM TOO.

WE ARE ADDRESSING DITCHES. MAKING TEN-FOOL DITCHES SO WATER CAN FLOW. -- TEN-FOOT DITCHES SO WATER CAN FLOW. WHATEVER WE TO DO IT LITTLE BY LITTLE. BY THE TIME THE PLAN HAS DONE

WE DO A THIRD OF THE WORK. >> CAN I EXPRESS A LITTLE BIT

OF CONCERN. >> HOLE ON, I AM TALKING.

I THINK THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO COME IN.

MR. HERNANDEZ I AM -- PUBLIC WORKS WILL WORK WITH YOU.

WITH THE COMMISSIONER, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING HE SAID.

WE GOT IN MONEY NOT JUST BECAUSE OF SOMETHING GOOD.

EVERYTHING -- IT WAS EVERYTHING HAPPENED THAT WAS BAD, RIGHT.

SO WE GOT THOSE MONEYS OR ELSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN THE MONEY TO HELP US OUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN NOW.

BAD THINGS HAVE TO HAPPEN FOR US TO GET ALL THIS MONEY UNFORTUNATELY, YOU HAVE THE FREEZE, FLOOD, AND COVID.

WE ARE GETTING MONEY BACK FROM THE GOVERNMENT WHICH IS GOOD.

AND WE NEED TO PUT THAT MONEY UP AND PUTTING IT TO WORK.

I DO HEAR YOU. DON'T THINK THAT YOU DON'T.

ANYTHING I CAN TO DO MAKE SURE WITH HERNANDEZ, I'M HERE TO

HELP ALSO. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

>> EXCUSE ME JUDGE, WANT TO ADD ONE THING AND SHAME ON ME FOR FORGETTING. TO GIVE WORK TO THE PUBLIC WORKS CREW AT MY REQUEST WORKING OVERTIME.

THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING OVE OVERTIME.

THANK YOU JERRY GARCIA AND ALL THE PUBLIC WORKS CREWS THAT ARE OUT THERE WORKING, TRYING TO GET ALL THIS DONE.

THANK YOU Y'ALL. >>JUDGE CANALES: MELISSA.

I WILL PUT YOU ON A PAUSE JUST BECAUSE I HAD JUDGE KLEIN HERE.

AND TIMES A WOMEN'S INTUITION IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING AND I AM GOING TO PAUSE. AND ASK A LITTLE BIT OF INDULGENCE FOR EVERYBODY. WE -- WE HAVE A NEED AT THIS

[4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the Commissioners Court may elect to go into an Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed anywhere on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item, the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Sections 551.071, 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.0745, 551.076, 551.086, 551.087, the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property, prospective gift(s), personnel matters, including termination, county advisory bodies, security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in an Executive Session.]

TIME, COMMISSIONERS, TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO HEAR A BRIEFING FROM JUDGE KLEIN REGARDING SECURITY AT THE CO COURTHOUSE. AND SO I AM GOING TO ASK EVERYBODY TO CLEAR THE COURT ROOM AT THIS TIME.

I AM GIVING NOTICE THAT COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY ELECT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME DURING THE MEETING TO DISCUSS MATTER ON THE AGENDA AS AUTHORIZED BY PROVISION OF THE OPEN MEETINGS 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

AND AS AUTHORIZED BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER, MYSELF, WE

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ARE GOING TO EMPLOY SECTIONS 551, 701, 702, 704, 705, 8.

TO CONSULT WITH OUR ATTORNEY OF REAL PROPERTY, PERSONNEL MA MATTERS, ADVISORY BODIES, SECURITIES AND ANY OTHER MATTER THAT IS DEEMED NOTICED AS WELL ON EXECUTIVE SESSION.

UPON EGGS COMPLETION, I WILL COME BACK IN AND WE WILL TAKE ACTION IF ANY APPROPRIATE -- IF ANY -- SUCH ACTION IS NEEDED.

AND IS APPROPRIATE ON ITEMS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE CLERK. THE TIME IS 10:22.

MY WILL -- >> QUICK QUESTION.

ARE WE DOING ALL EXECUTIVE. >> MY SWILL ONLY TO DO SECURITY AT THIS TIME BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO DO EVERYTHING ELSE. IF YOU ARE HERE AS A RESULT OF BEING A RESOURCE FOR US, STAY PUT.

IF NOT, PLEASE CLEAR THE COURT ROOM.

I AM GAVELLING US OUT. 10:22.

AND CONNIE,

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE ARE GOING TO GRAVEL BACK IN AND TIME IS 11:20 A.M. WE DID GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. NO ACTION TO TAKE AT THIS TIME.

MAINLY A DISCUSSION. WE WERE ONLY ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH ONE OF OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION AND LATER I WILL GAVEL US BACK IN TO ADDRESS THE REST OF THEM. AT THIS TIME, I AM GOING TO, AGAIN -- I AM SKIPPING AROUND, BUT IT IS IN THE INTEREST OF GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY RECEIVE UPDATE ON THE SPECIAL CALLED

[3. Receive update on 87th First Called Special Texas Legislative Session.]

TEXAS LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND THEN THAT IS GOING TO BE FOLLOWED BY, I BET, FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE SO YOU CAN BE READY ON DECK. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS. YOU WILL BE FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION. IN ORDER TO FACILITATE JOE ROMEO ON THE LINE. HUGO IS HERE.

HE WAS -- HE WAS -- DEPUTY, WILL YOU LET HIM TO ALSO JOIN US AT THIS TIME. HE IS COMING.

GOOD MORNING, JOEL. IT IS STILL MORNING.

WILL YOU BE STARTING US TODAY? I KNOW THERE IS -- THERE IS A -- MR. VELANGA, WILL YOU BE STARTING? OH, THERE IS JOEL. WE CAN SEE YOU.

HI, JOEL. WILL START US UP ON THE UPDATE.

WE HAVE BEEN IN SESSION SINCE JULY 8, HUGO, AND LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE COMING IN BACK TO BACK.

WHY DON'T YOU GIVE THE COURT AN UPDATE AS TO WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON AND WHAT THIS TEAM HAS BEEN DOING.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS.

AS YOU POINTED OUT THE SESSION STARTED -- WE ALREADY HAD CLOSE TO ALMOST 300 BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED.

AND OF COURSE THEY CAN BE CONSIDERED UNLESS THEY END UP ON THE GOVERNOR'S CALL. AND EACH -- IT APPEARS THAT THE GOVERNOR IS WHAT I HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL TOPICS TO THAT.

AND IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE TO MONITOR THE 300 THAT HAVE BEEN FILED BECAUSE APPEARS IN THE AMENDMENT OR ANYTHING THAT MAY BE MOVING AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME CHANGES IN THE SENATE WITH THE -- WE HAVE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE FINANCE JANE NELSON HAS INDICATED SHE IS NOT GOING TO SEEK REELECTION AND THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR HAS CONVINCED HER TO STAY AROUND UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR. REMEMBER, THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO BE APPROPRIATING ALL THE MONEY COMING DOWN FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THE LEGISLATURE DOES NOT WANT THE GOVERNOR TO DO IT BY HIS OWN, SO IT IS GOING TO GO THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PRO PROCESS, SO A TON OF MONEY THAT IS COMING DOWN THAT IS GOING TO BE ALLOCATED TO THE -- TO THE

COUNTIES. >>JUDGE CANALES: 11 BILLION.

$11 BILLION WILL BE APPROPRIATED AND HE WILL BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROCESS. IT HAS BEEN AN INTERESTING SESSION AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE GOOD THING IS OUR DELEGATION IS H HERE.

THEY NEVER LEFT. >>JUDGE CANALES: CHAIRMAN --

>> CHAIRMAN, TODD, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE MEETING THROUGH ZOOM WITH TODD ON TWYA AND OTHER ISSUES THAT CONTINUE TO COME UP KEEPING EVERYBODY KIND OF IN THE LOOP.

SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING CONTINUE TO WORK AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE A BUSY SESSION AND ON ANOTHER NOTE, CHAIRMAN HUNTER INTRODUCED A BILL IN THE EVENT WE DO NOT HAVE A CENSUS

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DATA IN A PROPER TIMELY MATTER THAT THE ELECTIONS WILL BE HELD AS THEY ARE TODAY AND ALL DISTRICTS WILL REMAIN THE SAME.

AND NO CHANGES. AND WE WOULD NOT DO REDI REDISTRICTING UNTIL THE NEXT -- UNTIL THE FOLLOWING -- UNTIL THE FOLLOWING YEAR. JUST A BACK-UP MEASURE THAT HE HAS FILED. AND THAT MEANS THATT MAYBE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, NO CHANGES, ASSUMING WE DO NOT GET ALL THAT DATA IN A TIMELY MANNER.

THAT IS A BACK-UP PLAN THAT THEY HAVE SET OUT.

NOW, AS YOU WELL KNOW, THE -- THE -- THE DEMOCRATS LEFT.

THEY BROKE THE QUORUM. BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WORK IS NOT BEING DONE AND CONDUCTED.

THE SPEAKER HAS ALSO MADE IT CLEAR AS SOON AS THEY COME TO BACK AND HAVE A QUORUM, HE IS GOING TO WORK THEM AROUND THE CLOCK TO GET EVERYTHING DONE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND THE PRIORITIES THAT HAVE BEEN SET UP.

THERE IS A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE NOW AND I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT THE MOST CONTENTIOUS BILL DEALING WITH THE ELECTION -- I MEAN WITH THE PROCESS OF EARLY VOTING AND SUCH, THERE WAS NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS ON ISSUE. A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT GOT -- A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT GOT REMOVED IS A MUCH BETTER BILL.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE OBJECTING TO DO NOT AFFECT US BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE 24-HOUR DRIVE-BY VOTING.

ONE LITTLE PROVISION IN THERE THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW THE PEOPLE THAT DO THE EARLY BALLOTS ARE GOING TO REACT TO IT. DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT, I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO PUT ON YOUR BALLOT THE LAST FOUR DIGITS OF YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER.

PEOPLE ARE VERY GUARDED ABOUT PROVIDING KIND OF INFORMATION, BUT WE WILL SEE WHAT KIND OF REACTION COMES WITH THAT.

BUT BY AND LARGE, THAT BILL WITH ALL THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT WENT ON, SAFE TO SAY, IT IS -- AT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS STILL A GOOD BILL. AND WE MAY NOT HAVE COMPLETELY AGREED WITH EVERYTHING IN IT, BUT I THINK IT WAS -- IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LIVE W WITH.

AND, AGAIN, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME PROVISIONS THAT DON'T APPLY. THE OTHER THING IS, AND WE WILL HEAR ABOUT IT LATER ON TODAY BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT WITH JIM REAGAN. THERE IS -- IN FACT, A MEETING GOING ON AS WE SPEAK. THERE WAS A GLOBAL ZONE THAT IS OCCURRING. EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SETTLED, JUST A MATTER OF WORKING OUT THE FINAL DETAILS.

AND LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, NUECES COUNTY, BECAUSE YOU ARE THE LARGEST COUNTY IN THE REGION, YOU CAN VERY WELL BE RECEIVE ADDITIONAL MONEY TO FACILITATE PROGRAMS IN THE OUTLYING AREA BECAUSE WE HAVE A HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND OTHER THINGS IN PLACE WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

YOU MAY AS WELL PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY OUTSIDE OF NUECES COUNTY.

THAT WILL NOT ONLY BE A BENEFIT TO THE REGION, BUT ALSO ALLOW NUECES COUNTY TO PLAY A LEADING ROLE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS BEING DISCUSSED RIGHT NOW INSIDE

SESSION. >> YES.

SO ANYWAY, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO JOEL.

AND THEN PATRICIA TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS AS WELL.

AND, AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REPRESENT Y'ALL.

AND LOOK FORWARD TO -- TO THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL START HAPPENING RATHER FAST AND FURIOUS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: JOEL. >> I WILL HAND IT OVER TO PATRICIA AND COME BACK IN AFTER THAT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: PATRICIA, YOU ARE NEXT.

>> HAPPY TO BE WITH YOU ALL EVEN VIRTUALLY.

HUGO IS RIGHT. THE WORK CONTINUES.

I HAVE BEEN UP TO THE CAPITOL. SOME OFFICES ARE THERE.

HAD GOOD VISITS. THE FOCUS TODAY AND VERY TIMELY. IN THE LAST MEETING, I MENTIONED TWYA AND HOW CLOSELY WILL BE FOLLOWING TWYA THIS SESSION OR WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF CONFERENCE CALLS WITH CHAIRMAN HUNTER AND HAVE SPOKE WITH HIM AS LATE AS YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AND FORWARDED HIM THE COUNTY'S RESOLUTION THAT WE SUBMITTED ON LINE, BUT TWYA WILL HOLD ITS ACTUAL UNDERRIDING COMMISSION MEETING TO REVIEW THE OBJECTING WAR Y'ALL REPORT AND WHAT THE COASTAL DELEGATION IS CONCERNED ABOUT THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL IN PASSING LEGISLATION THIS LAST SESSION WHEN I WAS WITH Y'ALL LAST MONTH.

FOR PASSING LEGISLATION OF TTWYA AND LAW INCREASES.

THAT DOESN'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 1 AND THE RUSH TO HAVE THE ACTUARIAL STUDY TAKEN UP TODAY AND WE

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ANTICIPATE AND THE REAL FIGHT IN THE AUGUST HEARING WHERE CHAIRMAN HUNTER IS RIGHT IN ASSUMING THAT THEY WILL PROPOSE A RATE INCREASE. WE ARE WORKING WITH CHAIRMAN HUNTER HOPING TO SHORE UP THE COASTAL DELEGATION.

I KNOW HE WORKS CLOSELY WITH MEMBERS FROM THE GALVESTON AREA AND UP AND DOWN COAST AND THAT HAS BEEN PART OF OUR MISSION THERE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE COUNTY'S RESOLUTION.

WE WILL BE MONITORING THE CALL AND WILL BE ONLINE.

THEY ARE NOT DOING IT IN PERSON.

IT WILL BE ALL VIRTUAL, BUT WE WILL BE THERE TAKING NOTE ON THAT. OTHER THING THAT I THINK IS WORTH NOTING IS THAT STARTING TO HAVE JUST SOME CASUAL VISITS WITH LEGISLATIVE STAFF AND STAFF IN THE SPEAKER'S OFFICE.

THEY ARE STARTING -- THEY HAVEN'T PUT OUT A REQUEST FOR INTERIM CHARGES YET. AS YOU KNOW BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE ONLY MEETS FOR 140 DAYS PERIOD THIS 18-MONTH PERIOD. THE TEXAS HOUSE AND PARTICULARLY TO THE SENATE SO SOME EXTENT ARE HEAVILY INVESTED IN INTERIM STUDIES WHERE WE VET THOSE ISSUES.

HIS A COUPLE OF CASUAL CONVERSATION WITH DIFFERENT CHAIRMANS TO START THINKING OF ISSUES THAT ARE COMING UP.

CHAIRMAN HUNTER MENTIONED TO US HE WANTS TO CONTINUE ON SOME OF HIS PRIORITY ISSUES THAT BEING COASTAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BEACH SAFETY, HUMAN TRAFF TRAFFICKING, THOSE ISSUES WE HAVE BEEN REPARTICIPATORY WITH HIM ON STARTING TO GET FEELERS ON THOSE ISSUES AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS OF OUR COMMITTEES OF JURISDICTION. THOSE ARE TIMELY THINGS WE ARE ANTICIPATING ON. WE CAN ANTICIPATE THE SPECIAL SESSION WHENEVER THIS ONE ENDS. A LONGER AND BROADER LIST OF ISSUES TO BE CONSIDERED. SO LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.

WEIRD TO IN THIS LIMBO AND REALLY A GREAT OPPORTUNITY VISIT WITH THESE LEGISLATORS TO BE HERE AND GET PERSPECTIVE ON THESE THINGS. JOEL, DO YOU WANT ME TO UPDATE

ON ANYTHING ELSE? >> I THINK YOU COVERED IT FOR NOW. I WILL JUMP IN HERE.

AGAIN, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE Y'ALL. WE LOOK AT THIS AS KIND OF A GOOD SPORTS ANALOGY, YOU ARE ALWAYS GETTING READY.

THE GAME MAY NOT BE TAKING PLACE BUT WE HAVE BEEN TRAINING AND PREPARING AND WHEN THE GAME IS CALLED BACK INTO ACTION, WE WILL BE READY. YOU ARE ONE THE FEW COUNTIES IN THE STATE THAT HAS AN INTERIM LEGISLATIVE AGENDA AS WE HAVE BEEN WALKING THAT AROUND THE CAPITOL OVER THE LAST FEW WE WEEKS. I WILL SAY THAT THE GAME DOESN'T END ON FRIDAYS. I KNOW PATRICIA, HUGO AND I SPENT SOME TIME COUPLE OF WEEKENDS AGO FOR WHERE OF URBAN COUNTY OF BAILABLE REFORM. THEY SHARED THOUGHTS AS BOTH BILLS WERE BEING AIDED IN HOUSE AND SENATE COMMITTEES.

THE OTHER THING IS LEGISLATIVE STAFF.

ONE THING AS A FORMER STAFFER IN THIS WORLD IS AS WE WALK THE HALLS, THEY LIKE CONSULTANTS ON BEHALF OF, YOU KNOW, THEIR CLIENTS WITH REGARDS -- WITH REGARD TO THE COUNTY.

AS THEY ALWAYS SAYS IT BETTER WHEN YOU SHOW UP EARLY AND OFTEN THAN THE DAY THE SESSION BEGINS AND WE HAVE TO RUN WITH THIS FAST. WE HAVE BEEN MONITORING THE 300 BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED. WE ARE LOOKING ALREADY DEVELOPING AS WE LAST DISCUSSED GETTING READY YOUR LEGISLATIVE FOR 2023 AND REDISTRICT ALSO BE A LOT OF TIME FOR US.

I HEARD YOU HAD OF AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION EARLIER THIS MORNING JUST AS I MENTIONED THAT PART OF THIS IS 90% OF THE TIME SHOWING UP AND BEING IN THE BUILDING.

IT HAS BEEN A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME GOOD VISITS WITH LEGISLATIVE STAFF AND LEADERSHIP RIGHT NOW.

AND THERE ARE -- I WILL SAY THIS, I HAVE -- I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SPEND A LOT MORE TIME WITH LAWMAKERS IN THEIR OFFICES RIGHT NOW AS THEY ARE WAITING FOR THEIR COLLEAGUES TO RETURN WHICH IS TIME WE DON'T GET B BACK.

SO IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE IN THE BUILDING AND ASSOCIATE THE QUESTIONS OF NUECES COUNTY.

SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE DEVELOPING YOUR 2023 LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. WRAPPING UP THIS SPECIAL SESSION AND GETTING READY FOR THE SECOND ONE AND I CONCUR WITH MY COLLEAGUES, EVERYTHING I AM HEARING ONCE THEY DICK IN THAT NEXT SESSION, EVERYBODY SHUTS UP AND THEY WILL WORK 24-7 NONSTOP AND IT WILL BE CRITICAL FOR ALL OF US TO BE

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THERE AND ATTENTIVE TO OUR DELEGATION AS THEY ALWAYS LIKE TO BE ABLE TO CALL UPON US AND WE ARE THERE IN A MATTER OF

MINUTES IN THEIR OFFICES. >> THE OTHER THING, JUDGE, THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT THE COMMITTEES -- UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE OF CORONAVIRUS AND DEALING WITH THE PANDEMIC, THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF -- OF INTERIM STUDIES THAT WERE CONDUCTED BECAUSE WE COULDN'T -- WE COULDN'T INTERACT.

OF COURSE, WE MAY GET DERAILED OF THIS THING AGAIN EMERGES.

BUT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND INDIVIDUALS HAVE CERTAIN TOPICS THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS, WE MAY BE ABLE TO PLUG THEM INTO THE PERSPECTIVE COMMITTEES DOING INTERIM STUDIES AND AT LEAST WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY DO THAT.

EARLIER TODAY WE HAD A DISCUSSION OF THE FLOODING PROBLEMS AND WE ARE ALL AWARE BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT HELPING Y'ALL IN SECURING THE GRANTS AND ALL OF THAT, BUT THE OTHER THING THAT WAS MENTIONED IS THAT EVIDENTLY IN COMMISSION -- AND I THINK IT IS PREVALENT IN MOST OF THE DISTRICTS. TXDOT HAS A ROLE TO PLAY IN THIS AND THEY ARE CREATING SOME OF THOSE PROBLEMS AND I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU BECAUSE OF OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH T XDOT, BUT ALSO THE UTILIZATION OF OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION, IT WOULD BE VERY EASY -- NOT ONLY THAT BUT COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN OF TRANSPORTATION WHICH IS A GOOD FRIEND OF OURS AND A SOUTH, AND IN NUECES COUNTY, TERRY. A GREAT DISTRICT ENGINEER HERE WHO AT THE SAME TIME MAY NECESSITATE HAVING OUR DELEGATION BE ENGAGED WITH THE COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONERS COURT, IF YOU HAVE A ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION ONCE YOU START IDENTIFYING WHO HAS WHAT RESPONSIBILITY, KERLEY WE CAN GET -- CLEARLY WE CAN GET TXDOT ENGAGED TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF PROBLEMS THEY HAVE CREATED. THEY SAY WE ARE NOT IN THE DRAINAGE BUSINESS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN YOU ARE CONSTRUCTING STREETS AND HIGHWAYS AND WHAT NOT, YOU ARE CREATING PROBLEMS IN SOME OF THOSE LOW LYING AREAS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: RIGHT. AND TO THAT POINT -- AND THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO REMIND EVERYBODY -- WHEN WE GOT -- YOU HELP ME REMEMBER '86 LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THE SB 7 THAT GOT US THE FIFTH -- THE $2 BILLION RAINY DAY FUND, SB 7 OR

8. >> 7.

>>JUDGE CANALES: 7 COMES WITH A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT AND

WE APPROVE IT. >> RIGHT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THOSE DOLLARS TO THE 254 COUNTIES THEY MADE IT ELIGIBLE FOR. WHOEVER WAS ELIGIBLE IN THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. WE ARE -- WE NEED TO GO BACK AND REAPPROPRIATE POTENTIALLY MORE FIFTH FLOODING.

INFRASTRUCTURE FLOODING WHAT FIFTH STANDS FOR AND GET THE PROJECTS FUND IN THE 88TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

THAT WORK HAPPENS NOW. WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU PERCEIVE THAT IS HAPPENING IN THE NEWS, MAKE NO MISTAKE, WE HAVE MONUMENTAL ISSUES THAT I BUG THESE THREE GUYS ABOUT EVERY SINGLE DAY BECAUSE IN THE MONUMENTAL ISSUE CATEGORY, THEY INCLUDE THINGS LIKE THE HARBOR BRIDGE AND WE GET PROTECTED AS A COUNTY OF NOT PAYING ANOTHER $400 MILLION IN OVERAGE, NOR DOES OUR MPO GET STATLED WITH IT.

WE HAVE BIG ISSUE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE COASTAL RESILIENCY FUNDING THAT WE NEED AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE GOVERNOR JUST SET FORTH NEW COASTAL GROUP THAT WILL ALLOW US TO POTE POTENTIALLY GET FUNDING LIKE THEY DID AFTER IKE.

AND WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO GET COVID-19 FUNDING AND -- BECAUSE THAT WAS $4 BILLION LEFT OVER.

CR 4 $4 BILLION. THIS CONCEPT.

WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING. THERE IS ONLY ONE THING TO SAY ABOUT THAT, THAT IS NOT TRUE. THERE IS SO MUCH WORK NUECES COUNTY NEEDS. AND THIS INTERIM SESSION IS THE -- IS THE WAY WE GET IT DONE. AND THANK YOU, JOEL OR PATRICIA FOR POINTING OUT WE NEVER GET THESE OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SHARE TIME WITH SO MANY PEOPLE AT THIS TIME WE GET NOW IS CRITICAL AND PRECIOUS. AND I NEED YOU GUYS TO BE ON THE FOREFRONT THAT WE DO GET THESE MEETING WITH TXDOT ON THE HARBOR BRIDGE BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GETTING THE INFORMATION WE NEED LOCALLY AND THE PORT FEELS THE SAME WAY.

AND SENATOR CREIGHTON ALLUDED TO WHAT HE WANTED TO PURSUE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THERE ARE MANY, MANY ISSUES AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM IN ADDITION TO KEEPING OUR EARS

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OPEN AS TO THE AMENDMENTS THAT COULD BE GAME CHANGERS.

>> THE OTHER ISSUE THAT YOU FAILED TO MENTION IS WE ARE STILL MONITORING AND LOOKING AT -- AS Y'ALL ARE CONSIDERING TO WORK WITH THE CITY ON THE PROVISIONS THAT WHEN THE RIDGE COMES DOWN, THE LAND THAT IS PREVIOUSLY BELONGING TO THE CITY, THE COUNTY AND THE PORT COMES BACK TO THOSE ENTITIES.

>>JUDGE CANALES: LOCAL CON CONTROL.

>>. >>> COME UP WHATEVER MASTER PLAN YOU WANT TO DECIDE TO DO WITH THAT.

WE NEED TO MAKE THEIR THAT TX DOT LIVES UP TO THEIR COMMITMENT AND DO WHAT WE EXPECT THEM TO DO AS YOU WOULD WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU PATRICIA AND JOEL.

AND WE WILL BE IN CONTACT WITH YOU GUYS.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS.

COMMISSIONERS DO YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF JOEL. EN ON THE LINE.

>> IF THE POSSIBLY EXISTS -- SIN THIS IS THE SESSION BUT THERE IS NO SESSION. IF YOU CAN PROVIDE US THAT LIST OF WHAT -- THE HOURS YOU ARE SPENDING AND THE TIME YOU ARE DOING SO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS. YOU HAVE GIVEN US A QUICK R RUNDOWN HERE, BUT HELPFUL TO KNOW THAT.

IF COULD YOU PROVIDE THAT OF SOME SORT OF WRITTEN SUMMARY FORM FROM ONE OF Y'ALL. I DON'T NEED THREE OF THEM BUT ONE OF THEM, HERE IS WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON SPENDING WITH OR

WITHOUT SESSION. >>JUDGE CANALES: JOEL, WILL

YOU TAKE THAT LEAD? >> YES, MA'AM, WE CAN DO THAT.

>> OF EVERYBODY, PLEASE. >>JUDGE CANALES: TAKE THE LEAD FOR EVERYBODY. GREAT.

OKAY. HEARING NO OTHER.

WE WILL MOVE TO A GROUP THAT HAS BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY AND

[1. Receive presentation from the League of Women Voters on “Lead Contamination Potential in Our Communities Drinking Water."]

WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT PATIENCE.

AND THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 3. 8.1.

A PRESENTATION FROM THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS OF LEAD IN THE CONTAMINATED OF THE CITY WATER. FOR CLERK, PLEASE DON'T FORGET TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND YOUR ORGANIZATION ONCE AGAIN, AND YOU MAY PROCEED WHENEVER YOU ARE READY.

IF YOU NEED MISS CONNIE TO ASSIST.

CONNIE, SHE WANTS TO HAND YOU SOME THINGS.

ARE THOSE FOR US? >> YES.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL TAKE THAT AS A HANDOUT.

OKAY. GREAT.

>> SORRY, I HEARD SOMETHING. HELLO.

ARE YOU READY, JUDGE? >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, YES, I

AM. >> MY NAME KATHERINE OHLER OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS OF THE CORPUS CHRISTI AREA.

THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS IS A NONPARTISAN, GRASS-ROOTS CIVIC ORGANIZATION THAT ENCOURAGES INFORMED AND ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IN GOVERNMENT. WORKS TO INCREASE UNDERSTANDING OF MAJOR PUBLIC POLICY ISSUES AND INFLUENCES PUBLIC POLICY THROUGH EDUCATION AND ADVOCACY. LEAGUE PROGRAM OF ISSUES AND ADVOCACY BY MEMBERS TO EMPOWER VOTERS AND DEFEND DEMOCRACY.

THE WORD "PROGRAM"HAS A SPECIAL MEANING IN THE LEAGUE.

NOT A MEETING OR SERIES OF SPEAKERS.

LEAGUE PROGRAM IS THE GOVERNMENT ISSUES SELECTED BY LEAGUE MEMBERS FOR STUDY AND AFTER CONSENSUS IS REACHED, ACTION. WITH ME TODAY IS JULIE ROGERS, AND SHE'S THE VICE PRESIDENT FOR PROGRAM STUDY AND ADVOCACY FOR LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS OF THE CORPUS CHRISTI AREAS.

TOGETHER, SHE WAS TAKING THE LEAD FOR THE LEAD STUDY THAT THE COMMITTEE COMMENCED. IN 2017, THEY.

WE STARTED A STUDY OF LEAD IN DRINKING WATER OF CORPUS CHRISTI RESIDENTS. WITH FLINT, MICHIGAN IN THE NEWS BECAUSE OF HIGH LEVELS OF LEAD IN THE WATER, MEMBERS OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS PROPOSE THIS.

FOUR YEARS. IT TOOK US FOUR YEARS TO COMPLETE THIS STUDY. THIS IS HOW COMPLEX IT WAS AND TO FIND ALL INFORMATION THAT WE NEEDED TO COME TO CONSENSUS ABOUT AND SO IN MAY 21 THAT WAS COMPLETED.

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WE THANK THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY TO JUDGE CANALES AND COUNCILMEN FOR OUR FINDINGS BECAUSE OF THE RECENT STUDY BY THE COUNTY BY THE TEXAS HEALTH INSTITUTE ANDS AS A AND ASENSURE FOR EQUITY IN NUECES COUNTY AND WE WANT AMERICA'S MOST WANTED TO SHARE THE INFORMATION IN OUR STUDY AND SHARE INFORMATION WITH THAT. YOU MAY KNOW THAT LEAD WAS IDENTIFIED AS A TOXIC SUBSTANCE OVER 100 YEARS AGO BUT NOT UNTIL 1948 THE FIRST FEDERAL WATER ACT ON WATER QUALITY.

YOU KNOW, SINCE THEN, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY, MANY OTHERS, 1972 CLEAN WATER ACT. 1984 CLEAN DRINKING WATER ACT.

'96, LEAD CONTAMINATION CONTROL ACT.

1988. 1991, LEAD AND COPPER 2011.

2020, THE UPDATE TO THE LEAD AND COPPER RULE WITH A DEFINITION OF WHAT LEAD-FREE MEANS.

ALL THESE ACTS HAVE TAKEN PLACE AND WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LEAD POISONING IN THE WATER THAT THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY HAVE ACCESS TO. SO FROM THAT, SOME THE FOCUS FINDINGS -- IF YOU WILL GO TO -- IF YOU WILL TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE. THANK YOU.

THIS IS WHAT WE FOUND OUT IN GATHERING THE INFORMATION.

WE SAW THAT -- AND SAW VERY IMPORTANTLY THAT THE HIGHEST INCIDENT OF AT RISK GROUPS WERE FOR INFANTS, CHILDREN, PREGNANT AND NURSING WOMEN, THEY ARE PARTICULARLY SUSCEPTIBLE TO LEAD POISONING. THERE IS NO SAFE LEVEL OF LEAD IN DRINKING WATER. NONE, ZIP.

THERE IS NO MAXIMUM CONTAMINANT LEVEL.

THAT IS A GUIDELINES THAT THAT IS HEALTH BASED.

BY HEALTH BASED, WE MEAN IT HAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON HEALTH.

THERE IS NO EPA MAXIMUM CONTAMINANT LEVEL GOAL EITHER BECAUSE ALL LEAD IS TOXIC. NO TEXAS WATER SYSTEM HAS HEALTH-BASED LEAD STANDARDS. NO ONE.

IT IS NOT BASED ON THAT HEALTH BASE LEVEL.

THERE IS NO MAXIMUM LEAD LEVEL COMING FROM FEW SUTS SETS, DRINKING FOUNTAINS, AND THINK ABOUT IN HOMES AND KITCHEN SINKS IN PARTICULAR. RIGHT NOW THE ACTION LEVEL FOR LEAD IN WATER IS 15 PARTS PER BILLION.

THIS IS A LEVEL THAT IS NOT HEALTH-BASED.

WE KNOW THAT ANY AMOUNT OF LEAD IS TOXIC AND INPINGES ON GOOD HEALTH. 15 PARTS PER BILLION THAT WATER SYSTEMS HAVE TO TAKE SPECIFIC ACTION FOR COMPLIANCE OF THE AMOUNT OF LEAD IN WATER. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THE U.S. FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION, MAXIMUM LEAD LEVEL IN BOTTLED WATER IS FIVE PARTS PER BILLION.

THAT IS HEALTH BASED. CORPUS CHRISTI WATER SYSTEM IN COMPLIANCE WITH LEAD. THE HIGHEST LEVEL THEY HAVE EVER RECORDED WAS 23.8 PARTS PER BILLION IN JULY 2012.

THE NAVAL AIR STATION CORPUS CHRISTI APPEARS TO NOT BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL LEAD REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS.

THE HIGHEST LEVEL, 395 PARTS PER BILLION IN AUGUST OF 2013 WAS REPORTED THERE. AND THEN REGRETFULLY, 115 -- 150 PARTS PER BILLION IN OUR CHILD DEVELOPMENT CENTER AS

LIGHT AS MAY OF 2019. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT, BUT LATER WILL YOU BE ABLE TO FOOTNOTE THESE SO I KNOW WHERE YOU GOT THE DATA?

>> SURE, WILL BE HAPPY TO. THE ZIP CODES ARE KEY TO IDENTIFY CHILDREN POTENTIALLY AT RISK.

THIS IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT, SO WE KNOW WHAT AREA AND WHAT -- TO DISCOVER WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE.

SO -- NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS -- TO COME TO YOU, THIS IS THE POSITION WE CAME TO AS A LEAGUE AND WE ADOPTED IN MAY OF NEXT YEAR NO TEXAS PUBLIC DRINKING WATER THAT USES A HEALTH-BASED STANDARD FOR LEAD CONTAMINATION.

IN AMOUNT OF LEAD IS SAFE FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION.

AND MOST VULNERABLE, INFANTS, PREGNANT AND NURSING WOMEN.

WHY THAT? PREGNANT AND NURSING WOMEN?

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BECAUSE IF MOTHERS INGEST -- THAT THEY DO HAVE LEAD IN THEIR SYSTEMS AND THIS CAN BE PASSED ON TO INFANTS IN THE WOMB AND AFTERWARDS IF THEY ARE NURSING, THEY CAN ALSO BE RECEIVING INTO THEIR BLOOD VIA A MOTHER'S M MILK.

THE CHILDREN IN NUECES COUNTY, MOST EXPOSED TO LEAD POISONING RESIDE IN 78415 AND 78380. MAKES IT DRAW CLOSER TO HOME WHERE THESE ARE. LEAD SOURCE DATA SHOULD ADDRESS SUB STANDARD HOUSING, UNREMEDIATED LEAD PAINT AND FOOD. WE DO NOT KNOW AND CAN'T GET AS MUCH INFORMATION ABOUT THOSE CASES OF LEAD POISONING IN CHILDREN AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE CONFIDENTIALLY OF MEDICAL RECORDS. THESE ARE ALL CONTAMINANTS THAT CONTAIN LEAD AND NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AS WELL AND PERHAPS IN FUTURE STUDIES. OUR NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THE UTILITY ACTION LEVEL OF 50 PARTS PER BILLION, AGAIN, IS NOT HEALTH BASED AND NOT PROTECTIVE OF HUMAN HEALTH AND SHOULD BE REFOLLOWED. WE BELIEVE.

WE URGE THAT FURTHER EVALUATION TAP LEVELS, WHEN TAP LEVELS EXCEED FIVE PARTS PER BILLION. THIS MEANS ON THE HOME OR IN WATER FOUNTAINS. THE HEALTH-BASED LIMIT FOR LEAD AND BOTTLED WATER. AND NOTICE TO CUSTOMERS WITH BURN-OUT EVENTS. AND BURNOUT WITH LEAD RELEASE AND GETTING INTO THE PIPES. THE WATER SUPPLY PIPES.

WE RECOMMEND EASY -- WE HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR EASY AFFORDABLE STEPS TO REDUCE LEAD AT -- AT THE TAP.

NEXT SLIDE. THESE ARE -- WE DID ASK 44 ZIP CODES FROM NUECES COUNTY TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES, AND THE RESULTS -- THESE ARE THE TOP 12 THAT WE GOT BACK. AND THESE ARE THE HIGHEST.

THESE ARE THE ZIP CODES WITH THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF CHILDREN IF YOU TESTED POSITIVE FOR LEAD POISONING.

THINK.THIS. THAT TOTAL IF YOU TOTAL UP THE INSTANCES OF CASES, THAT IS 400 CASES OF CHILDHOOD LEAD PO POISONING IN NUECES COUNTY. WOULD DO YOU A CLICK PLEASE.

IF YOU WERE UNSURE WHERE THOSE TWO ZIP CODES ARE, THIS IS A ZIP CODE MAP FOR NUECES COUNTY, THE PURPLE.

IT IS THE 783 -- AND THE LIGHT GREEN IS THE 78415.

AND THE 78415 FALLS IN ONE OF A HEAVILY POPULATED AREA IN CORPUS CHRISTI AND IN THIS NUECES COUNTY.

YOU CAN CLICK BACK. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THESE STATISTICS AND SAMPLES THAT WE GET IS THAT THERE ARE FEWER THAN 3%, I WOULD SAY, 1.9 OF THESE SAMPLES OF THE NUMBER CHILDREN THAT WERE TESTED.

NO IDEA WHAT -- WHAT THE PATH TO THAT TESTING WAS.

WHETHER THIS IS SOMETHING DISCOVERED BY PARENTS.

WAS THIS DISCOVERED BY A TEST. BUT IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT POPS UP REGULARLY. AND IF YOU -- IF YOU TAKE THIS AND EXTRAPOLATE, THERE COULD BE HUNDREDS MORE OF CHILDREN IN NUECES COUNTY THAT HAVE LEAD POISONING TO SOME DEGREE.

VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. AND IF YOU REMEMBER, JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY, THAT WITH LEAD POISONING IN CHILDREN, IT CAN CAUSE DIFFICULTIES WITH MENTAL HEALTH.

ALSO IN -- IN CONTROLLING EMOTIONS, IT CAN IN TERMS OF -- OF THEIR BEHAVIOR IT CAN ALSO CHANGE THEIR PERFORMANCE IN SCHOOL AND THEIR ABILITIES TO LEARN.

AND EVEN IN LATER YEARS, THESE SITUATIONS CAN CONTINUE, BECAUSE THE LEAD -- ONCE IT IS IN YOUR BODY IT IS NOT EASILY -- YOU CAN'T GET RID OF IT EASILY.

THERE ARE PROCEDURES TO DO T THAT.

YOU CAN EAT CERTAIN FOODS THAT CAN HELP REDUCE THOSE LEVELS, AND BY AND LARGE, THOSE EFFECTS CAN REMAIN WITH YOU THROUGHOUT

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YOUR LIFE AND CONTINUE TO HAVE ADVERSE HEALTH CONDITIONS.

THIS IS NOT A ONE-TIME THING, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU CAN GO GET A VACCINATION TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

SO WE NEED TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES, AND WE ARE PARTICULARLY CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, IN THESE ZIP CODE AREAS THAT HAVE SUCH A HIGH NUMBER. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ARE SO HIGH. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE, WHETHER IT IS THROUGH THE WATER OR IF IT IS FROM SOME OF THE OTHER CARRIERS OF LEAD LIKE PAINT AND -- AND -- SO THAT -- THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCOVERED AND MOVED ON. BUT WE WILL HAVE A WARYNESS OF THAT NOW AND WE THINK THAT IS CRITICAL.

IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

OKAY. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS AND THE PARTS PER BILLION, THIS IS CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, ACTION LEVEL -- THIS IS FROM THE -- THIS IS FROM THE -- THE TOXICOLOGICAL PROFILE FOR LAND, AND THIS IS A GOVERNMENT -- AGAIN, A GOVERNMENT STUDY THAT WAS DONE.

AND SO, AGAIN, IF -- IF CHILDREN TEST FOR -- IT IS CALLED -- MICROGRAMS PER DESOLITER.

BLOOD LEVELS FOR CHILDREN IF IT IS AT 5 -- AT THAT STAGE FROM 5 TO 10, THEY WILL NEED TESTING AND MONITORING AND EDUCATE WHAT TO DO. THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO IF YOU ARE -- IF THE PIPES IN YOUR HOME, YOUR RESIDENCE ARE LEAD-BASED.. -- THERE ARE MANY THINGS TALK DO AND THE LEAGUE RECOMMENDS THESE LIKE TURNING ON TAP FOR 30 SECONDS BEFORE YOU DRAW WATER.

SO MANY THINGS THAT -- THAT CAN REDUCE THAT RISK.

IF THE BLL, THE BLOOD LEVEL FOR CHILDREN IS 10 MICROGRAMS PER DESOLITER THEN YOU NEED TO GO BEYOND THAT AND LOOK AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL LEAD INVESTIGATION.

YOU CAN SEE, AGAIN, THAT THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES, THE DATA ON CHILDREN, ON -- FOR -- I LOST MY PLACE NOW, THAT IN 2000 -- BETWEEN 2012, THEY ONLY HAD 2 263. REMEMBER, AGAIN, THAT IS NOT A TOTAL. JUST FOR THE REPORTED ONES OF KIDS WHO WERE -- WERE TESTED. SO THE NUMBER WHO MAY HAVE LEAD POISONING IS PROBABLY HIGHER. THE SAME GOES IN 2012-2018, THERE WERE 401 AND EVEN MORE AND HOPEFULLY BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE UNDERSTANDING -- BEGINNING TO UNDERSTAND THAT ON AVERAGE IF YOU TAKE THIS, THE ESTIMATE OVER 55 CHILDREN ARE BEING LEAD POISONED ABOUT, BUT IF YOU FACTOR THE SAMPLE FOR THIS IS MANY, MANY MORE AFFECTED BY THIS.

IF YOU GO TO NEXT SLIDE. SOME OF THINGS -- THE OPTIONS PROTECTED THAT PARENTS -- PRIVATE SCHOOLS, SCHOOL PARENTS AND GOOD IANS CAN TO DO GUARD AGAINST THIS IS TO ESTABLISH LEAD MONITORING PROGRAMS ANNUALLY FOLLOWING THE EPA TRAIN, TEST AND TAKE ACTION PROGRAM AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE, AGAIN, FLUSHING THE DRINKING WATER BEFORE STUDENTS AND FAMILY DRINK OUT OF A FOUNTAIN AND OUT OF A FAUCET.

WORK WITH THE WATER SYSTEM OF BEING MODIFIED WHEN BURNOUTS TAKE PLACE. THE DISINFECTANTS DON'T STOP AT SERVICE LEVEL AND ESTABLISH THE LEVEL OF LESS THAN 5% PARTS PER BILLION FROM WATER FAUCETS AND FOUNTAINS PARTICULARLY IN SCHOOLS. REMEMBER THAT IT WASN'T UNTIL 1986 THAT LEAD PIPES WERE OUTLAWED.

MANY BUILDINGS IN NUECES COUNTY INCLUDING SCHOOLS THAT HAVE

PIPES THAT ARE LEAD-BASED. >>JUDGE CANALES: DO YOU HAVE A

LISTING OF THOSE SCHOOLS. >> WE DON'T BUT ONE OF OUR MEMBER ELLIS HAWKINS IS BOARD MEMBER AND SHE HAS BEEN HAVING DISCUSSIONS TO THEM ABOUT THIS. THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION THOUGH. NEED TO HAVE REFORM OVER MONITORING THE RATES. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. UP WITH OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THIS THAT THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI HAS BEGUN A RESIDENTIAL LEAD TESTING PROGRAM.

SO WE WERE ABLE, AT OUR ENCOURAGEMENT AND DISCUSSIONS WE HAD WITH THEM BECAUSE OUR STUDY WAS BASED STRICTLY IN CORPUS CHRISTI. THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI.

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THEY WORK WITH US AND PIONEERS AND WE DID THE PRELIMINARY TEST TRIALS FOR THEIR GET LEAD OUT PROGRAM.

WE SERVED AS CITIZEN SCIENTISTS IF YOU WILL.

DID WATER TESTING AN SENT THEM OFF.

AND THEY ARE PREPARING TO DO THAT TO MAKE AVAILABLE OF ALL THE CITIZENS OF CORPUS CHRISTI. AND THEY ARE STILL WORKING ON GETTING THOSE -- YOU KNOW, GETTING EVERYTHING SET IN PLACE BASED ON OUR PARTICIPATION IN THAT.

AND THAT IS ONE STEP THAT WE FULLY APPLAUD AND HOPE TO IDENTIFY MORE CHILDREN WHO HAVE LEAD POISONING OR MAY BE AT RISK OF LEAD POISONING. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

FOR THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO. REMEMBERING THAT THERE ARE THOSE AT RISK GROUPS. PARTICULARLY AGAIN THOSE WHO ARE MOST AVAILABLE ARE INFANTS, CHILDREN AND NURSING MOTHERS.

SO ALSO REMEMBER IN TERMS OF INFANTS, IF THEY ARE ON FORMULA AND THAT IS BEING MIXED UP WITH TAP WATER, THAT CONTAINS LEAD, THAT IS, AGAIN, ANOTHER DELIVERY METHOD THAT PEOPLE NEED TO BE AWARE OF. AGAIN, FLUSH LINES UP TO 30 SECONDS. DON'T USE HOT -- THIS IS A BIG ONE. HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU TURN ON THE WATER HOT BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE TIME TO BOIL IT. USE THAT IN COOKING.

DON'T DO THAT. HOT WATER CAN LEACH THE LEAD OUT OF PIPES. BE SURE TO USE ONLY COLD DRINK WATER FOR DRINKING OR FOOD PREPARATION.

BE AWARE THAT WATER SOFTENERS ALSO INCREASE RISK.

IT CAN REMOVE MANY OF THE PROTECTIVE CHEMICALS INSIDE PIPES. AND POINT OF USE APPROVED FOR LEAD REMOVAL, FOSSIL FILTERS WITH AT RISK GROUPS AND THESE ARE AVAILABLE AT PLACES LIKE HOME DEPOT IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

AND THEN, ALSO, THAT PEOPLE NEED TO BE ALERTED TO IF WATER SYSTEM DOES EXPERIENCE BURN OUT WITH BACTERIOLOGICAL OR DISINFECTANT AND CORPUS CHRISTI IN NUECES COUNTY WE HAVE HAD BURN OUTS IN RECENT RECOMMENDRY I AM SURE.

IN TERMS OF NEXT -- NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

WHAT ARE YOU SAYING AS FAR AS NUECES COUNTY AND THE OPTIONS THAT YOU CAN TO DO ADDRESS T THIS.

WE SUGGEST THAT PERHAPS A MEMORANDUM AGREEMENT AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES TO BE INVOLVED WITH CHILDREN WITH BLOOD LEVELS AND BASED ON THE IDENTIFIED ZIP CODES THAT THE CDC HAS AND ALSO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SCIENCES.

AND ALSO TO KEEP THE CITY OFFICIALS AND RESIDENTS THE STATUS OF CHILDREN WITH ELEVATED LEVELS BY ZIP CODE.

THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO TRACK AND SEE IF REMEDIATION EFFORTS ARE HELPING AND IF THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE ACTIVE EDUCATION OF FAMILIES LIVING IN THESE ZIP CODE AREAS WHERE THE LEAD LEVELS ARE HIGH AND EXTENSIVE CAMPAIGN TO PROMOTE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITIZENS OF NUECES COUNTY WILL BE A BIG BOOST IN TERMS OF GETTING THE WORD OUT HOW REAL AND DEVASTATING EXCESSIVE LEAD IN BLOOD LEVELS FOR CHILDREN IS. AND SO AGAIN ALSO MAKING SURE THAT NOT AT THE HOME, BUT AT THE FOOD -- CHILD AT SCHOOLS OR CHILD CARE CENTERS THOSE OPTIONS -- THAT THOSE FACILITIES ALSO ARE MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE -- THAT THE WATER IS SAFE.. COMES TO WHAT WE FOUND AND NUECES COUNTY ADDS 50 CHILDREN A YEAR TO THE POISON CHILD ROLLS. WE ESTIMATE HIGHER BECAUSE THE SAMPLES THAT WE HAVE ARE ONLY A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN WE BELIEVE ARE LIVING IN THESE HIGH EXPOSURE AREAS. SPECIFIC ZIP CODES AND ONLY AVAILABLE VIA THE OPEN RECORDS REQUEST.

EDUCATION IS KEY TO PROTECTING AT-RISK GROUPS.

WATER SYSTEMS INCLUDE SCHOOLS AND DAY-CARE CENTERS AND LEAD IN MONITORING PROGRAM. JUST ASSIST DATA BY ZIP CODES

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ISSUES WHERE YOU LIVE OR POTENTIAL ARE LOOKING TO BUY AND LIVE. AND REVIEW AND VERIFY THE WATER DATA. WE -- THERE IS A POSSIBILITY WE THINK PARTICULARLY BASED ON THE STUDY THAT YOU COMMISSIONED TO PERHAPS USE SOME FUNDING FROM AMERICAN RELIEF PLAN TO INCLUDE WATER QUALITY. AND THE PREVENTION OF LEAD CONTAMINATION SO THAT YOU ARE ADVANCING EQUITY OF HEALTH CARE IN NUECES COUNTY. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: ALL MY QUESTIONS -- I THINK I WILL SCHEDULE A MEETING TO HAVE WITH YOU OFF LINE.

>> SURE. >>JUDGE CANALES: BUT I WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT HEADS UP. OBVIOUSLY I WANT TO READ THE WHOLE REPORT. YOU WANT TO LOOK AT ALL THE CITATIONS AND THE FOOTNOTES AND THE DATA.

I WANT TO SHARE THE REPORT WITH CITY-COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH.

I IMAGINE YOU HAVE GIVEN PRESENTATION -- I THINK YOU SAID IT -- TO THE CITY. SO OBVIOUSLY AS THE PURVEYOR OF THE MAIN UTILITY, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE THE BIGGEST IMPACT BECAUSE THEY ARE THE CITY'S, YOU KNOW, WATER SOURCE FOR UTILITY. BUT AS YOU POINTED OUT, MANY JURISDICTIONS THAT WE HAVE SOME IMPACT.

WE CAN HAVE POTENTIAL IMPACT. WATER DISTRICT NUMBER 3 COMES TO MIND. AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO VISITING WITH YOU WITH THE COMMUNITY, THE HEALTH EQUITY OF THE COMMUNITY IS PARAMOUNT AND WE CONDUCTED OURSELVES.

AND BASED ON YOUR WORK, I WILL HOOK YOU UP WITH THE FOLKS THAT DID THE SOCIAL DETERMINE NANCE HEALTH EQUITY.

THEY WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO INTERVIEW YOU AND TALK WITH Y YOU. AND I THINK TODAY IS A GOOD OVERALL PRESENTATION AND I ASK IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME AND HOPE TO HAVE YOU BACK FOR A DIALOGUE FOR SOME OF THE ACTION ITEMS THAT YOU PRESENT.

BUT THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS THAT TEXAS HAS NO STANDARD.

AND, THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD -- WE SHOULD LOOK TO. ANY JURISDICTION OF WATER QUALITY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. >> COMMISSIONER MAT OMAREZ.

>> MAYBE YOU ALREADY SAID THIS AND I APOLOGIZE IF YOU DID, IS THE LEAD SAMPLING BEING TESTED IN THE SUPPLY END OR OUT OF THE FAUCET? ARE YOU NOTICING A DIFFERENCE AND COMING FROM PIPES. AT WHAT END, COMING IN THE WATER SOURCE AND NATURALLY OCCURRING? OR DO WE SEE A DRAMATIC INCREASE ONCE IT HITS.

YOU HAVE THE LEAD SERVICE LINE COMING FROM THE MAIN LINE INTO THE HOMES. I KNOW THAT IS A BIG CHALLENGE, AND A LOT OF THE HOMES ARE SURE A CHALLENGE IN OUR COMMUNITY COMPARED TO OTHERS, BUT ARE YOU ALL NOTICING A JUMP IN NUMBERS FROM MAYBE WHAT IS TESTED ON THE ORIGINS, THE ORIGINAL END TO THE FINAL END OUT OF OUR TAP?

>> WELL, FIRST OFF, ONE OF FIRST THINGS WE NOTICED A HUGE DATA GAP IN EVERYTHING. THAT IS WHY THIS QUESTION IS HARD TO ANSWER. PRESIDENT CITY LINE AND THE HOMEOWNER LINE. AND THE CITY CAN'T GO AND CHECK OUT THE HOMEOWNERS LINE WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION BUT CAN CHECK OUT THE OTHER HALF. IN 1997, THEY WERE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THAT CHECK AND IT HAVEN'T BEEN FINISHED YET.

>>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: PEOPLE WHO HAVE TESTED DON'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE LINES AND PURCHASED THERE.

AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO TESTING LINES WHAT WE CAN DO ON THE STATE END AND OUR END TO HELP BRING AWARENESS TO THIS.

THANK YOU. >> LET ME JUST ADD THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE VERY CONSCIOUS OF IS OFFER SUGGESTIONS TO INDIVIDUALS WHO DO HAVE THEIR HOME WATER LINES THAT ARE LED BASED. CERTAINLY IN THE PERFECT WORLD THEY WOULD GO IN AND REPLACE THOSE LINES, BUT THAT CAN BE EXPENSIVE IF ANYONE IS -- HAVE BEEN AROUND PLUMBERS AND THAT IS NOT REALLY A OPTION IN MANY PLACES AND AS YOU KNOW THE HIGH

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LEVEL ZIP CODES. MANY OF THOSE IN SOME OF THE OLDER PARTS OF TOWN AND PROBABLY NOT BEEN ANY REMEDIATION MULTIFACETED ISSUE AND ADDRESSING IT GETTING TO KNOW MORE OF THE FACTS AND HAVING ACCESS TO THAT WHICH AS A COUNTY YOU HAVE MORE ACCESS THAN WE DO.

WE HAVE A REGIONAL HEALTH BOARD ANDS TATE I HAS DECLINED AND WE HAVE NOT. AND THAT IS GOOD THING.

THIS IS PERHAPS -- IT IS NOT A BIG SURPRISE THAT OUR PUBLIC HEALTH FOCUS BECAME DOMINATED BY COVID-19.

IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER IMPORTANT PUBLIC HEALTH, YOU KNOW, TOPICS THAT WE DEAL WITH INCLUDING ST. LOUIS ENCEPHALITIS, WEST NILE, ETC. HOWEVER, I THINK THAT WE ARE FORMING A BETTER HEALTH -- ACTUALLY THE COURT FORMED A BETTER HEALTH OUTCOMES TASK FORCE THAT WE ARE USING FOR SOCIAL DETERMINANT AND ACADEMIA REPRESENTS HALF OF THAT BOARD AND SO WANT TO YOU KNOW THAT WITH ACADEMIA IN THE US IN THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH COORDINATOR AND GET YOU A COPY OF THE PRESENTATION AND WE WILL SEE WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS ARE.

I THINK TODAYS IS A GRATITUDE, A MOMENT OF GRATITUDE FOR THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS WHO CONTINUE TO BRING IN A NONPARTISAN WAY THE ISSUES THAT MOVE OUR COMMUNITY FORTH IN A BETTER WAY. THANK YOU FOR SPENDING THE QUALITY AND UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, RIGHT.

THE QUALITY OF YOUR TIME. AND I KNOW THAT AS YOU KNOW, THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL IS BEING DEBATED AND HOW MUCH MONEY THEY HAVE PUT FORTH IN ARPA IN ADDITION TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL THAT WILL GIVE US DOLLARS AND AS YOU MENTIONED OUR OWN FUNDING AND OBVIOUSLY IS SOMETHING TO LOOK AT IN OUR DOMAIN AND YOU HELPED US DO THAT TODAY AND I WILL USE THE REGIONAL ADVISORY BOARD TO HELP ME AND THE BETTER HEALTH OUTCOMES WILL HELP SEE HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE.

>> FANTASTIC. WE APPRECIATE THAT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: AGAIN COMMISSIONER MAREZ REPRESENTS THE AREA HIGHLIGHTED IN PURPLE. OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT REPRESENT ALL AREAS OF THE COUNTY ARE IMPORTANT, BUT THE PRIORITY CERTAINLY NEEDS TO BE THAT BIG PURPLE SPOT.

>> INDEED. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY.

WE THANK YOU AND APPRECIATE IT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR

LADIES? >>COMMISSIONER MAREZ: THANK

YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU FOR OPPORTUNITY.

>> THANK YOU, LADIES. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM GOING TO GO BACK AND TRY TO MUSTER UP SOME.

[2. CONSENT AGENDA: The following Agenda Items are of a routine nature, and the Commissioners Court has received supporting materials for consideration. All of these Agenda Items will be passed with one vote without being discussed separately, unless a member of the Commissioners Court or the public requests that a particular Agenda Item be discussed. If so, that Agenda Item will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed as part of the regular Agenda at the appropriate time. One vote will approve the remaining items on the Consent Agenda.]

I WANT TO TRY TO FINISH OUR CONCEPT.

THERE ARE ITEMS, COMMISSIONERS, ON ITEM NUMBER 2-A-0.

AT THIS TIME I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO PASS THIS CONSENT

AGENDA. >> JUDGE, I THINK ON THE SPECIAL MOTIONS LIST, WE WANTED TO PULL ROBERT DURANT TO

REORGANIZE THAT SPECIAL MOTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: IT WON'T BE CONSIDERED THIS COURT, UNDERSTAND.

>> ITEM 53 OF THE SPECIAL MOTIONS LIST BE TABLED.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY -- >> SO MOVED.

>>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION, SECOND AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT TABLE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED SAME SIGN. HOW ABOUT 0-0, COMMISSIONERS.

CAN I GET A MOTION? >> SO MOVED.

>> AND A SECT SECT SECOND A. >>JUDGE CANALES: WOULD YOU LET ME GET A MOTION BESIDE L AND P.

THERE IS NO P. I MAY BE USING AN OLD ONE.

I GOT MY AGENDA -- HOLD ON A SECOND JUDGE, AS I STATED EARLIER, WE WILL LIKE TO TABLE O.

>>JUDGE CANALES: YOU TOLD ME THAT ONE.

>> PULLING A, O, AND P. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM GOING THROUGH AN OLD ONE AND GOES THROUGH Q.

>> MOTION A-Q AND PULL L, M, P. >> AND THE FIRST IS JOHN'S

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AMENDED MOTION IF THAT IS OKAY FOR L AND P.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WAIT A SECOND.

WAIT A SECOND. WAIT A SECOND.

WHY ARE WE PULLING"L", TYNER. >>JUDGE CANALES: OH, HE REQUESTED IT. WHEN YOU SAY PULL -- MY BAD.

OKAY, SO L AND P. SO LET'S DO THE TABLE CORRECT.

TO THE TABLE IS ON O. >> DO THAT FIRST.

[O. Approve University of Michigan, BASIC Project's use of county leased space; approve agreement.]

MOTION TO TABLE O. >>JUDGE CANALES: AND I WILL SECOND. THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

BY THE WAY, KARA, AUGUST 4 ON BASIC.

WE THINK WE WILL HAVE IT FIGURED OUT BY THEN.

>> MY MOTION, JUDGE, TO APPROVE ITEMS A-Q WITH THE EXCEPTIONS

OF -- >>JUDGE CANALES: L AND P.

>> AND O. >>JUDGE CANALES: SECOND ON THAT. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED. LET'S TACKLE L, THE HAZARD

[L. Ratify the submission of a grant application to the Texas Division of Emergency Management for the DR-4332 Hazard Mitigation Grant Program for a Hazard Mitigation Action Plan (HMAP) Update.]

MITIGATION GRANT. PROGRAM.

>> WANT AN UPDATE ON THAT. WHAT -- WHAT IS THE HAZARD MITT CONGRATULATIONS GRANT EXIT PLAN.

WHICH ONE IS THAT ONE? I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL MITIGATION PLANS, BUT WHICH IS THIS ONE PARTICULARLY?

>>JUDGE CANALES: FOR THE APPLICATION PLAN, MARIA, WILL

YOU ADDRESS? >> EVERY FIVE YEARS THE COUNTY IS REQUIRED TO DO A HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN UPDATE WHICH BASICALLY HAS ALL THE PARTICIPATING JURISDICTIONS, THE PARTICIPATING MUNICIPALITIES IN NUECES COUNTY. WE ARE LOOKING TO EXPAND THAT AS MELISSA HAD MENTIONED EARLIER LOOKING TO EXPAND IT TO INCLUDE WATER CONTROL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS.

WE WERE GIVEN THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO RESUBMIT THIS GRANT APPLICATION. WE MITTED THIS BACK IN DECEMBER 2018 BEFORE JUDGE NEIL HAD LEFT.

IT WAS NOT FUNDED IN THE FIRST ROUND.

HAVE REACHED OUT TO NUECES COUNTY TO SEE IF WE WERE INTERESTED IN RESUBMITTING THE APPLICATION WHICH WE OBVIOUSLY WERE INTERESTED IN DOING. THE UPDATE IS DUE IN 2022, SO IT IS ACTUALLY KIND OF PERFECT TIMING FOR THIS TO RESUBMIT

THIS APPLICATION. >> WILL GO UNTIL 2022?

>> WE RESUBMITTED THE APPLICATION.

IT WILL BE BACK UP FOR RECONSIDERATION.

THE LIKELIHOOD IS PRETTY HIGH. WE WOULD HAVE TO GO UP TO R. F.

P. LIKE IN 2017 TO HAVE SOMEONE ASSIST US IN UPDATING OUR PLAN.

>> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE T THAT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS THE ONE THAT MELISSA SAID WE WILL BRING IN THE OTHER JURIS JURISDICTIONS TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THEY QUALIFY. AND THAT'S -- YOU KNOW, THAT IS

OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANT. >> THANK YOU, MARIA.

APPRECIATE IT. >>JUDGE CANALES: WAIT A SECOND. GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THAT.

>> SO MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: AND SECOND.

>> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALL IN FAVOR

[P. Authorize adoption of a resolution/order approving the financing and the project solely for purposes of Section 147(f) of the Internal Revenue Code, related to the Rosebud Cultural Education Facilities Finance Corporation loan from Frost National Bank and subsequent loan to Richard Milburn Academy for the purposes of financing/refinancing the cost acquiring, equipping, constructing, improving, expanding and/or renovating its Corpus Christi campus and paying certain expenses in connection with the issuance; Approve fee-related to processing related documents pursuant to Chapter 18 of the Texas Local Government Code and any other relevant statutes.]

SAY AYE. OPPOSED.

AND P? >> I AM CONFUSED ARE WE GIVING

MONEY? >> BELIEVE IT OR NOT, MAKE $2500 ON THIS DEAL WITH I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY AND NOT

-- >> MAKE ME UNDERSTAND IT

CORRECTLY TOO. >> SO ACTUALLY I MET WITH COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ. HE HAD NEVER SEEN ONE OF THESE BEFORE. BLAKELY FERNANDEZ WAS HELPING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WITH THIS ITEM.

THERE IS NO LIABILITY ON PART OF THE COUNTY.

I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH. THE COUNTY HAS DONE ABOUT FOUR OF THESE IN THE LAST TEN YEARS. AND WHAT IT IS.

IT'S A MECHANISM FOR THIS INCIDENT TEE TO ISSUE TAX-FREE DEBT. AND BLAKELY IS JOINING RIGHT NOW. AND SHE CAN EXPAND WITH THIS BE THIS SUBJECT MATTER, AND ACTUALLY THERE IS NO LIABILITY TO THE COUNTY. IT IS MECHANISM FOR THEM TO FINANCE IMPROVEMENT AT THE RICHARD MILLBURN ACADEMY.

SEVEN IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THEY HAVE 2,000 STUDENTS THAT THEY BENEFIT. AND BLAKELY IS ON AND SHE MAY WANT TO EXPAND ON THIS ITEM A LITTLE BIT.

>> I THOUGHT THEY HAD GONE UNDER AND THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING WHY WE -- I JUST WANTED TO KNOW OUR CONNECTION.

BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT LOANS HERE WHATEVER.

BUT I UNDER STAND THEY HAD -- THAT THEY WERE GOING UNDER.

DID THEY COME BACK UP AGAIN? >>JUDGE CANALES: THEY CLEARLY

DID NOT GO UNDER. >> WHAT I HEARD.

>>JUDGE CANALES: HEARD DOESN'T WORK.

LET'S LET THE EXPERT -- >> LET ME FINISH ASKING THE QUESTIONS. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY -- HAVE WE

READ EVERYTHING ON THIS HERE? >> I AM NOT SURE I CAN

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UNDERSTAND THE EXACT QUESTION. >> WHAT IS OUR ROLE ON THIS ONE HERE, THE COUNTY'S ROLE. WHAT IS OUR ROLE AND CONNECTION TO THIS ONE HERE? WHAT ARE WE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

>> INTERNAL REVENUE CODE REQUIRES WITH ISSUERS ISSUE DEBT IN YOUR COUNTY THAT THE HIGHEST ELECTED OFFICIAL OF THE COUNTY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT DEBT ISSUANCE AND THEY CONFIRM THAT YOU HAD A HEARING AND THAT YOU PUBLISHED PROPER NOTICE.

YOU WILL SEE IN YOUR PACKET, OFF COPY OF A IN THE THAT WAS PUBLISHED AND AN AFFIDAVIT ON THE HEARING.

AND JUST A REQUIREMENT FROM THE IRS, AND IT IS PART OF THEIR

FINANCING OBLIGATION. >> AND COMMISSIONER, WE -- EVEN THOUGH THE JUDGE COULD JUST SIGN OFF ON THIS HISTORICALLY, WE HAVE BROUGHT THEM TO COURT TO LET THE COURT LET THE APPROVE IT. .

>> NO FINANCIAL OBLIGATION FOR THE COUNTY.

>> NO, NO REQUIREMENT OF THE COUNTY OTHER THAN TO ACKNOWLEDGE. AND I THINK IT IS A PROVISION TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNTY IS AWARE WHEN THESE PRIVATE ACTIVITY FUNDS ARE BEING ISSUED FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE

NONPROFIT WITHIN THE COUNTY. >> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.

>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

DONE FOUR TIMES BEFORE IN THE LAST TEN YEARS? WHEN IS THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS?

>> I COULD DO A QUICK SEARCH, BUT -- --

>> YOU HAD ONE LAST YEAR AND THIS WAS ISSUED THROUGH AN AFFILIATED ENTITY OF THE COUNTY AND THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT

THAN THIS ONE. >> WHAT ENTITY WAS THAT, BL BLAKELY? WHAT ENTITY WAS THAT?

>> IT WAS DONE THROUGH THE THROUGH THE HOUSING FINANCE

CORPORATION. >> WE DO HOUSING FINANCE.

I GET THAT. THIS IS KIND OF UNIQUE.

THE YEARS I HAVE BEEN HERE, I DON'T RECALL -- THIS IS A CHARTER SCHOOL. SO DOES THIS OPEN UP TO ANY

EDUCATION ENTITY. >> WELL, IT WOULD BE OPEN TO CHARTER SCHOOLS THAT ARE NONPROFITS THAT ARE ISSUING PRIVATE ACTIVITY BONDS IN THE COUNTY.

>> COMMISSIONER I CAN GIVE YOU A QUICK RUNDOWN OF A QUICK SEARCH I DID. COMMISSIONERS COURT DID THIS IN 200 FOR THE TARRANT COUNTY EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES.

PROJECT FOR THE MAYADOR, 5857 TIMBER GATE.

STAND IT FOR MAYADOR. THE -- WE DID TAX EXEMPT FINANCING UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE IN 2012 FOR ST.

JOHNS METHODIST CHURCH. WE DID IT FOR BOGEN CAMP HEALTH FACILITIES IN 2012. WE DID IN 2014 FOR THE SCHOOL OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY CORPUS CHRISTI.

2014, SOUTH TEXAS. A LOT MORE THAN I THOUGHT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THIS IS MINISTERIAL -- THIS IS A NOTICE PROVISION MORE THAN ANYTHING UNDER THE GOVERNMENT CODE.

THIS IS ALLOWING US -- ALLOWS ME AS THE COUNTY OFFICIAL.

I WANT TO BRING IT TO YOU TO COURT FOR TRANSPARENCY, BUT THE PURPOSE IS TO GIVE NOTICE THAT THEY ARE USING THIS PARTICULAR PROVISION IN THE INTERNAL REVENUE TAX CODE.

>> THEY DON'T REALLY NEED OUR PERMISSION?

>> THEY DON'T. THEY ARE JUST GETTING AND ACKNOWLEDGING -- IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT'S RIGHT. THEY HAVE GOT TO HAVE THAT ACKNOWLEDGMENT BEFORE THEY RECEIVE THE PROCEEDS FROM THE BOND, ADMINISTRATIVE AND ALSO A CRITICAL PATHWAY.

>> THE REASON I SAY WHAT WE HEAR IS THAT YOU WOULD NEVER GET A BOND IF YOU WERE TO THE A LEGITIMATE.

THE POND PROCESS IS SO ONEROUS, IS THAT NOT CORRECT?

>> YEAH, THAT IS RIGHT. THERE ARE STILL WORKING WITH UNDERWRITERS AND THEIR DILIGENCE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THEY ARE IN BUSINESS.

>> THEN YOU HAVE TO BE A NONPROFIT.

DOES IT HAVE TO BE A NONPROFIT OR ANYBODY?

>> YES. NO, THIS IS FOR NONPROFITS.

>> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER MAREZ, I DON'T SEE ONE IN RECENT TIMES, YOU ARE CORRECT.

>> NOT A PROBLEM. I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET SOME CLARITY ON IT, WHAT THE OTHER GROUPS WERE.

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A VARIETY OBVIOUSLY. HOUSING THIS IS BASED WITH EDUCATION AND HOYV PROBLEM WITH IT.

GIVES CLARITY BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN IN CASE ANYBODY ASKS. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. >> SO MOVED.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I HAVE A MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED.

>> AUTHORIZING THE RESOLUTION AND THE FEE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S CORRECT.

I WILL TAKE THE FIRST CLARIFICATION TO THE CHURCH AS A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION.

AND NOW LOOK FOR A MOTION -- SORRY?

>> MOVE FOR THE FEES. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOVE FOR THE FEE ESTABLISHED AT $2500 FOR THIS PROCESS.

AND -- DID I HEAR A SECOND. >> SECOND.

>>JUDGE CANALES: A SECOND FROM HERNANDEZ.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THAT TAKES US THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AND YES, SIR? FOOD IS HERE.

LET ME JUST GET A -- I ALWAYS LIKE TO GET A FEEL FOR THE AUDIENCE HERE. I KNOW THE LEAGUE IS OBVIOUSLY PRESENTED. SCOTT, I KNOW YOU ARE HERE AND WHY YOU ARE HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST GET -- LET ME SEE HERE. GIVE ME ONE SECOND.

>> WE CAN DO EXECUTIVE SESSION WHILE WE EAT.

>> I'M HUNGRY TOO. >> YOU DON'T WANT ME MUCH

LONGER WITHOUT FOOD. >>JUDGE CANALES: ARE YOU GOING TO PUT FORTH THE PROPOSED LIFEGUARD PLAN, SCOTT?

>> YES. >>JUDGE CANALES: LET ME JUST

SUGGEST THAT -- >> SHOULDN'T TAKE TOO LONG,

JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WAS GOING TO TRY TO DO THE CITY OF DRISCOL.

I WAS GOING TO SAY -- LET'S DO ITEM NUMBER 8.

AND IT IS REALLY ITEM 7 AND 8 AND GIVE NOTICE THAT WE WILL TAKE A VERY QUICK, YOU KNOW, 15-MINUTE LUNCH BREAK AND SO THAT WE CAN BRING LUNCH AND TRY ESTABLISH SOME -- I ALSO SEE DAVID IS HERE. ONE, I WILL DO MY BEST TO TRY TO GET THOSE TAKEN CARE OF. BUT LOOK, ITEM NUMBER 7 AND 8.

[7. Discuss and consider approval of sanitary sewer pump project with Nueces County Water Control and Improvement District No. 5; Discuss and consider interlocal agreement between Nueces County and Nueces County Water Control and Improvement District No. 5 related to sanitary sewer pump projects, and related matters.]

I DON'T THINK THEY ARE OVERLY COMPLICATED BUT BOY ARE THEY IMPORTANT. WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE -- HONORABLE JUDGE AND MEMBERS OF COURT, I AM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NUECES RIVER AUTHORITY AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE ON THE CITY OF DRISCOL AND NUECES COUNTY NUMBER 5. THESE DO HAVE VERY IMPORTANT EMERGENCY REQUESTS FOR FUNDING BEFORE YOU TODAY THEIR EQUIPMENT IS WORN OUT. CW ID NUMBER 5.

DRISCOL HAS AN ISSUE WHERE THE PERMIT WAS ALLOWED TO EXPIRE, AND THEY NEED ANOTHER PERMIT. AND THEY NEED THAT QUICKLY.

SO THAT THEY CAN GET BACK IN TO THE BUSINESS OF PROPERLY DISPOSING OF THEIR WASTEWATER NEEDS.

THEY ALSO HAVE A FEW EQUIPMENT NEEDS OUT THERE TOO.

AND THESE NEEDS ARE REQUIRED TO PUMP THE AMOUNT AND PROCESS OF THE AMOUNT OF SEWAGE THEY ARE RECEIVING ON DAILY BASIS.

>> YES, SIR. AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, THIS REALLY COMES TO US -- EVERYONE REALLY AS AN EMERGENCY, AND THE -- THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INVOLVED IS $25,000 APPROXIMATELY FOR THE ITEM NUMBER -- FOR THE ACTUAL WATER PUMPS ON -- ON DRISCOL AND SORRY -- AND $4,000 FOR DRISCOL -- AND THEY ARE 29,000 AND HANDLING ITEM NUMBER 7.

I RECOMMEND THAT WE -- THAT WE ENTER INTO THE LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH NUECES COUNTY WATER CONTROL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 5, AND WE SOLVE THIS PROBLEM AS IT IS AN EMERGENCY.

AND I DO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE GOING TO -- I BELIEVE IT HAS A NEXUS WITH THE FLOODING AND DOCUMENT IT IN STATEMENT OF DAMAGES. BUT I IS IT WANT TO BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION AND THAT YOU APPROVE THIS MATTER.

>> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: MOTION AND SECOND SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. I DID WANT TO ASK YOU IF YOU FELT THAT TO ME IT HAS A NEXUS WITH FLOOD AND HANDLE AND

[02:25:16]

SUGGEST SOME OTHER TIME. >> DO YOU NEED ANYTHING FOR US IN TERMS OF REIMBURSEMENT IN CASE A DISASTER DOES GET

DECLARED. >> NO NEED FOR ANY ORDER IF IT IS COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, NO MORE PROCESSING THAT YOU NEED TO DO AND WORK UP THE REIMBURSEMENT AS THEY COME TO

US. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU, SIR. AS THEY SAY, PROBLEM NUMBER ONE SOLVED. LET'S GO TO PROBLEM NUMBER TWO, JOHN. TELL ABOUT -- WELL, YOU ALREADY TOLD US OF THE PERMIT AND THAT WE CAN SOLVE THE PERMIT.

EXPAND ON THAT. >> THE PERMIT EXPIRES, REQUIRES YOU NOR A WHOLE NEW APPLICATION AND A THREE-QUARTER-INCH-THICK PAMPHLET BE FILLED OFF.

EACH ITEM ADDRESSED AND SENT IN AND THE NEGOTIATION BEGAN ON THE PERMIT ITSELF. THIS ONE IS SOMEWHAT COMPLICATED AND NEW RULE SINCE THAT PLANT WAS BUILT.

THAT WAS UNDER THE RULES OF 2 216.

217 IS NOW IN EFFECT AND THIS WILL COMPLICATE THE NEGOTIATIONS ON THIS THING AND I THINK IT WILL BE ISSUED AS IS, BUT IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE A LITTLE EXTRA WORK.

>> AS I UNDERSTAND IT, JOHN, YOU CAN ASSIST IN THIS PROCESS AND THAT GIVES US COMFORT AND THAT IS WHY I PUT IT ON AGENDA TODAY. ALSO, DO YOU BELIEVE THIS TO BE TRULY A HEALTH AND SAFETY MATTER.

WITH REGARDS -- IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PERMIT, YOU REALLY CAN'T

DO ANYTHING. >> I DO FEEL LIKE IT IS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION AND A HEALTH AND SAFETY MEASURE.

WE PROPOSE TO YOU AND YOUR OFFICE AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THAT CALL ON JULY 5, NO OTHER TIME.

BUT THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. AND WE PROPOSE A TAG TEAM AND YOU PROVIDE THE FUNDING FOR SURE OF THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND MECHANISMS FOR THE INSTALLMENT AND THOSE KIND OF

THINGS TO BE PROVIDED. >> COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ITEM, WE HAVE A TWO-PRONG. IT IS BASICALLY.

WE ARE GOING TO BE CONSIDERING THE INTERLOCAL AND LOOK FOR A MOTION OF THE INTERLOCAL BETWEEN NUECES AND THE CITY OF DRISCOL. AND.

>> JUDGE, BEFORE WE VOTE, WE WILL INVITE THE COURT TO PERHAPS GO INTO AN EXECUTIVE REGARDING THIS BECAUSE THERE

MAY BE SOME ISSUES. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE WERE GOING TO TAKE OUR LITTLE BREAK AND LEGAL CLARIFICATION.

I WOULDN'T WORRY BUT GIVE US A CHANCE TO CONSULT WITH ATTORNEYS AND MAY BE HOW WE DECIDE TO WORK THE AGREEMENT AND MAY BE -- BUT IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO STICK AROUND, WE WILL COME RIGHT BACK IN. AT LEAST YOU INTRODUCE THE SUBJECT MATTER, OKAY, ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE.

NO MOTION. CAN YOU -- RETRACT YOUR MOTION SINCE WE WILL DISCUSS IT. AND HE RETRACTS THE SECOND.

OKAY. LOOK, FOR FEAR THAT WE ARE WASTING VALUABLE TIME FOR SOMEBODY WHO -- WHO -- I KNOW WE ARE HUNGRY, BUT WE DID THAT ITEM SO QUICKLY.

[1. Discuss and consider approval of Change Order No. 1 for the Nueces County Courthouse Exterior Wall Remediation Project.]

HEAR FROM DAVID RICHTER ON ITEM NUMBER B-1.

THIS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT BUT NOT OVERLY COMPLEX.

IT IS A PROBLEM WE THINK WE HAVE SOLVED THE PROBLEM.

BUT IT REQUIRES OUR ACTION. DAVID, WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU, PLEASED TO BE HERE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: CAN YOU SUMMARIZE FROM THE PROBLEM IS, HOW WE RESOLVED IT, AND WHAT THE COURT CAN TO DO MAKE THAT PROBLEM -- MAKE THAT RESOLUTION REALITY.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU A PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER THAT ACTUALLY HAVE NINE ITEMS ON IT.

YOU RECALL WHEN WE STRUCTURED THIS PROJECT, WE -- WE KNEW GOING IN THAT THERE WAS A LOT WE DIDN'T KNOW, THAT IS A NATURE OF A PROJECT LIKE THIS WHERE YOU ARE STRIPPING OFF AND DISCOVERING WHAT IS BEHIND THE SURFACE THAT THERE ARE UNK UNKNOWNS, SO WE STRUCTURED THE BID DOCUMENTS WHERE WE HAD UNIT COSTS AND BID QUANTITY FEES THAT WE KNEW WOULD BE ADJUSTED.

WE KNEW SOME THINGS WOULD BE HIGHER.

SOME THINGS WILL BE LOWER. SPENDING A LITTLE MORE HERE AND THERE. WE ARE NOW AT A POINT IN THE PROJECT WHERE WE HAVE CLARITY ON WHERE THERE ARE PLACES THAT MORE NEEDS TO BE SPENT AND PLACES WHERE LESS NEEDS TO BE SPENT. AND SO, WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU IS A SERIES OF ADDS AND DEDUCT S MOST OF WHICH ARE INCIDENTAL

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OF DISCOVERING SOME OF THE ISSUE WITH THE -- WITH THE TILE AND THE SUBSTRATE OF THE TILE. ONE OF THE ITEMS, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, IS A SCOPE ADD. AN ENHANCEMENT TO THE PROJECT.

THERE IS ENOUGH SAVINGS IN THE DEDUCTIONS TO PAY FOR SOME IMPROVEMENT TO THE SEALS AROUND THE WINDOWS SO IN THERE -- I POINT THIS OUT BECAUSE THIS SOMEONE A LITTLE SPECIAL.

337,000 ROUGHLY TO DO VERY SIGNIFICANT ENHANCEMENT TO THE WATER SEALS OF THE -- OF THE SORT OF TRAPEZOIDAL-SHAPED WINDOWS IN THE COURTHOUSE. THE OTHER ITEMS ARE ALL ADDS AND DEDUCTS RELATED TO THINGS WE HAD TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY ON AND THINGS WE SPENT LESS PRIMARILY BECAUSE HAVING LESS QUANTITY OF CERTAIN DEFECTS THAN WHAT WE ANTICIPATED. THE BIGGEST ITEM IS TO IMPROVE THE -- THE NORTAR THAT ADHERES THE TILE FROM -- FROM A MORE TAR AS A RESULT OF A PULL TEST AND THIS GIVES US JUST BETTER ADHESION AND REALLY NECESSARY IN ORDER TO FULFILL THE OBJECTIVES OF THE PROJECT. THE PROJECT WAS SET UP WITH A $200,000 CONTINGENCY MOST OF ADDITIONAL ADDS SHOWN ARE PAID FOR DEDUCTS, 107,000 OF NET ADDS THAT COME OUT OF THE CONTINGENCY THAT LEAVES YOU $2,000 IN THE CONTINGENCY IF NO ADDITIONAL UNKNOWNS THAN YOU WILL HAVE AMOUNT OF MONEY RETURNED TO THE COUNTY WHEN THE PROJECT IS FINISHED.

SO NO ADDITIONAL MONEY JUST 107,000 TO BE TRANSFERRED FROM FROM THE CONTINGENCY INTO THE COST.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THE GOOD NEWS IS WHEN IT SHAKES OUT ON THE WASHING MACHINE, OF THE NINE SEPARATE ITEMS BEFORE THE COURT TODAY, WE HAVE ENOUGH DOLLARS FROM THE ORIGINAL APPROPRIATION WITH THE ONLY EXCEPTION THAT WE WILL ACTUAL BE UTILIZING THE 107,000 OUT OF THE CONTINGENCY FUND AND WE ARE STILL GOING TO STAY AS THEY SAY ON TIME AND STILL ON BUDGET AT THIS POINT.

>> AND YOU HAVE BETTER THAN 300,000 WORTH OF ENHANCEMENT.

>> ON THE SEALS. >> ON THE SEALS WHICH WERE I ADDITIONAL TO THE WORK. WE ARE GETTING THAT MUCH MORE WORK IN THE CONTRACT THAN WHAT WAS ANTICIPATED.

>> I WOULD POINT OUT THAT IS SO CRITICAL FOR THE WATER INV INVASION. THE SEALING OF THESE WINDOWS.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DAVID AT THIS TIME?

>> JUST DON'T COME BACK AND TELL US LATER, OOPS, WE ARE OUT OF THE CONTINGENCY AND THE $300 ON WINDOW WE WILL SAVE.

I WILL GIVE YOU THIS ONE BUT NOT --

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS A TALL ORDER.

>> COME ON NOW. WE GOT ALL THIS -- WE ARE GOING TO DO EXTRA WORK. MAYBE WE SHOULD SAVE THE $300 K

FOR SOMETHING ELSE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: I THINK ADDRESSING SEALS ON A SERIOUS NOTE WE FOUND BEING ON THE SCAFFOLDING AND -- I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN IT COME BACK TO COURT NO MATTER WHAT. MIGHT SEEM EXTRA, BUT ACTUALLY REALLY A NECESSITY, THAT'S CORRECT.

NOT A LUXURY TO DO THE SEAL; >> WITH A BUILDING, YOU KNOW, THINGS COMING YOUR WAY OVER TIME AND WE CAN'T DO ALL OF THEM. THIS WAS A PROJECT TO DEAL JUST WITH THE ENVELOPE. AND WHAT WE FOUND WE ARE NEARING THE END AND WE FEEL THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO -- TO DO THIS AMOUNT OF ENHANCEMENT.

SO IT IS A BONUS. IT IS GENERALLY AN ADDED BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY AND IT IS -- IT IS NOT SUPERFLUOUS OR --

IT IS A NEEDED ENHANCEMENT. >> THE EPOXY WE ARE GOING TO USE DOESN'T WORK, GET NEW ONE, DIFFERENT ONE IS GOING TO WORK? WE ARE GOING TO TEST IT FIRST, I HOPE, THIS ONE?

>> THE EPOXY WAS TESTED AND PERFORMED AS WELL.

>> THE FIRST ONE? >> THE ORIGINAL SPECIFICATION FOR SEMITITIOUS, A NORMAL TYPE OF A DROUGHT BUT DID NOT WITHSTAND THE TEST AND WE UPGRADED IT TO THE EPOXY AND

VERY ROBUST. >> THAT WILL BE TESTED.

>> IT HAS BEEN TESTED AND MYSELF AND A HAMMER BEATING ON SOME SAMPLES AND UNABLE TO KNOCK SOME OF THE TILES FREE.

IT IS A GOOD SYSTEM. >> FROM 200,000 TO 692,000 IS

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OUR BALANCE -- TO 92 THUJ IS OUR BALANCE

>> THANK YOU, SO WE NEED TO CREATE A MOTION TO IMPROVE SUCH CHANGE ORDER. CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE.

SO I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION AT THIS TIME.

>> JUDGE, ON THE PUBLIC WORKS SIDE, WE ARE RECOMMENDING --

PUBLIC WORKS IS RECOMMENDING. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU SO MUCH. I THINK I HAVE A MOTION.

>> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: AND ALL NOSE FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR GETTING THAT TAKEN CARE OF.

SO AT THIS TIME, I THINK I HAVE PUSHED AS FAR AS I CAN GO.

WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT 15-MINUTE BREAK SO WE CAN GET OUR -- ACTUALLY WE WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION WHILE WE CAN EAT DOING THAT AND I WILL SIGN FOR YOU.

AND SO WE WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT THIS TIME.

AND THE TIME FOR THE CLERK IS 12:40.

AND FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO JUST JOINED US IN THE AUDIENCE NOT TO BE CONFUSED, WE HAVE GOTTEN GOTTEN INTO OUR REGULAR AGENDA, JUST THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE UP A MATTER IN EXECUTIVE NOW.

AT THIS TIME I GIVE NOTICE THAT WE DO ELECT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS 551, THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AND IN PARTICULAR IN ACCORDANCE WITH VERNON 55171, 72, 73, 74, 75. AND DO SO WITH MAT EVER REAL PROPERTY, GIFTS, PERSONNEL, SECURITY DEVICES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ANY OTHER MATTER THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED AND THAT WAS NOTICED TODAY IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

UPON COMPLETION, WE WILL COME BACK OUT TAKE ANY ACTIONS NECESSARY AS ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND, AGAIN, 12:450 P.M. WE WILL CLEAR THE ROOM.

GRAB LUNCH AND COME RIGHT BACK HERE, COMMISSIONERS TO MEET WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. APPRECIATE IT.

CONNIE, TAKE US DOWN ON THE

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE ARE ON. WE ARE BACK ON RECORD AT 2:38 P.M. AND WE HAVE CONCLUDED OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION AND COMMISSIONERS I DO BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME ACTIONING TO BE TAKEN. I AM GOING TO ANNOUNCE ON ITEM NUMBER A IT WAS PRESENTATION ONLY.

ITEM B WE HANDED THIS MORNING AND IT WAS PRESENTATION ONLY.

IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM C AT THE TIME.

THE THOMAS CAMACH O, CASE NUMBER 2:20-CV-00157.

>> I CAN MAKE THE MOTION. -- THAT IS JOHN'S.

>> SORRY, I HAD THAT ONE. SORRY.

MOTION TO DENY SETTLEMENT AND TO NEGOTIATE -- AND TO NEGOTIATE SETTLEMENT AND -- I CAN'T EVEN READ MY OWN

HANDWRITING. >>JUDGE CANALES: MEDIATION.

I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. >> SORRY, HORRIBLE

HANDWRITING. >> CAN YOU RESTATE IT?

>> TO DENY SETTLEMENT OFFER AND TO NEGOTIATE THE SETTLEMENT AND

ATTEND MEDIATION. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL SECOND THAT AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THEN ITEM D IS EDUARDO GONZALEZ VERSUS NUECES COUNTY, CV-126 OF THE RATIFICATION OF THE HIRING

OF KEITH SIECZKOWSKI. >> PRETTY CLOSE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION AT THE TIME.

>> I MAKE THE MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION TO RATIFY HIS HIRING AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

WILL YOU ADD TO THE MOTION TO INCLUDE THE ENGAGEMENT LETTER.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER WILL YOU SECOND THAT AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

[4. Discuss and consider temporarily suspending personal services contract(s) with Legislative Consultant(s), Hugo Berlanga, Joel Romo, and Patricia Shipton for services related to the 87th Texas Legislative Special Session(s), 88th Texas Legislative Session, strategic planning, consulting, and governmental relations services, and other related matters; Discuss and consider amendment of personal services contract(s) with Legislative Consultant(s), Hugo Berlanga, Joel Romo, and Patricia Shipton.]

COMMISSIONER CHESNEY, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION AS WELL FOR ANOTHER ITEM WE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE?

>>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: YES, MA'AM, TABLE REGULAR AGENDA 3 A

4 AND PUT -- >>JUDGE CANALES: 3-A-3,

COMMISSIONER. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: I GOT

4. >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM WORKING

OFF THIS OLD ONE, FORGIVE ME. >>COMMISSIONER CHESNEY: LANGUAGE TO THE POSTING AS WELL FOR THAT AUGUST 4.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE THAT

ITEM UNTIL AUGUST 4. >> SECOND.

>>JUDGE CANALES: SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR --

>> WITH WHAT LANGUAGE, PLEASE. >> ADDS ADDITIONAL LONG TO SHOW

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THAT WE ARE RECONSIDERING THAT CONTRACT IN ADDITION TO

RECONSIDERING. >>JUDGE CANALES: ON AUGUST 4.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. OKAY.

AND THEN -- >> YOU WANT MINE?

>>JUDGE CANALES: COULD YOU. WASN'T THAT ITEM 8.

[8. Discuss and consider approval of wastewater discharge collaboration with City of Driscoll; Discuss and consider interlocal agreement between Nueces County and the City of Driscoll related to wastewater discharge.]

THIS IS CASTEWATER DISCHARGE COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY OF

DRISCOLL. >> TO MAKE A MOTION WE ENTER INTO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT TO AUTHORIZE SPENDING OF $29,000

WITH THE CITY OF DRISCOLL. >>JUDGE CANALES: FOR COMMISSIONER. DALE, COMMISSIONER MAREZ IS GOING TO WORK WITH YOU AND HE HAS AN INTEREST OF ASSISTING BY

USING HIS FUNDS. >> ALSO WE PUT ABOUT THE

REIMBURSEMENT CLAUSE. >>JUDGE CANALES: ALSO, DALE, WE WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN -- JENNY WILL HELP WITH US WITH THE INTERLOCAL. FOR DRISCOLL AMERICAN RELIEF ACT FUNDS IN THE FUTURE WE MIGHT SEEK REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY OR ANY OTHER STATE OR FEDERAL FUNDING.

COULD BE SOME OTHER WONDERFUL BUCKET OF MONEY.

THAT WAY WE SET THE PRECEDENT THAT WE ARE HERE TO HELP, BUT IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET PAID BACK, IT WILL ONLY

HELP US HELP OTHERS. >> MAKE SURE THAT IS PART OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, THAT WILL WORK.

>> THAT CHANGE WILL BE ENTERED INTO AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT,

YOU WILL HAVE IT SHORTLY. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ARE HAPPY HERE AND COMMISSIONER MAREZ IS A CHAMPION FOR THIS AREA.

>> I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE YOU FOLKS AND THE TIME YOU PUT INTO THIS IN A QUICK TIME FRAME AND WORK WITH

YOU TO GET THIS THING DONE. >>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. PUTTING US BACK -- YES, MA'AM? YOU ARE RIGHT. YOU ARE RIGHT.

HE MOTIONED. I SECONDED.

BUT I NEED TO SAY ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THANKS FOR THAT.

[5. Discuss and consider approving interlocal agreement for Medical Examiner Services with Wilson County, and related matters.]

PUTTING US BACK IN SOMEWHAT OF A REGULAR ORDER TAKES US TO ITEM NUMBER 5 FOR CLERK AND ALL OF US ON REGULAR AGENDA AND THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE WITH WILSON COUNTY AND I WILL DEFER THAT TO JENNY, AND I WILL HIT YOU NEXT, SCOTT.

I JUST DON'T REMEMBER IF THIS IS ALL IN ORDER OR GOOD TO GO.

>> THIS IS GOOD TO GO. >>JUDGE CANALES: THEY SIGNED

IT BASICALLY. >> DID THEY SIGN IT?

>>JUDGE CANALES: THEY AGREED. REMEMBER WE WERE WAITING FOR

THEM. >> THEY DID AND ADDED 70 -- OH.

AND WE ADD TOED THE LONG OF THE MEDICAL EXAMINER HAVING ABILITY

TO REFUSE. >>JUDGE CANALES: NOW THEY KIND

OF ACCEPTED ALL THAT. >> TELL ME WHAT THIS IS.

>> WILSON COUNTY. OUR MEDICAL EXAMINER TAKING

THEM ON AS A SOURCE OF -- >> REMEMBER WE ADDED THE LANGUAGE THAT WE WANTED AND THEY HAD TO GO APPROVE IT.

AND NOW IT IS BACK BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY HAD THEIR COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURT APPROVE IT. WE COULD REFUSE THEM IF OUR NEED IS PRESSING OR OUR NEED IS GREATER.

WE DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT THEM. WE ALREADY DID THE WORK.

>> I MAY BE DRAWING A BLANK. I THOUGHT WE SAID WE WEREN'T GOING TO DO THIS. ARE WE DOING SOMETHING THAT IS

NOT OUT OF POSSIBILITY? >> IT WAS BROUGHT AGAIN AND THE NEED WAS EXPRESSED FOR OUR MEDICAL EXAMINER TO CONTR CONTRACTUALLY REFUSE ANY NEW WORK IF NUECES COUNTY WAS BEING

NOT DONE APPROPRIATELY. >>JUDGE CANALES: THEY DID THE

WORK. >> AND I THINK -- I AM OKAY IN GENERAL, BUT I AM NOT SURE -- I DON'T MEAN THIS -- THE WAY IT IS GOING TO COME ACROSS POSSIBLY, BUT THE FACT THAT HE MAKES MONEY FROM OUTSIDE EXAMS POTENTIALLY PUTS A MEDICAL EXAMINER IN A POTENTIALLY IN A CONFLICT OF INTEREST POSITION.

BECAUSE -- THERE HAS TO BE IN MY OPINION AS CAN HE DO ALL OF THESE NOT JUST WILSON COUNTY BUT SOMETHING IN THESE THINGS THAT HE IS A SOLE DECIDER BECAUSE THAT PUTS HIM IN A REALLY BAD SPOT TO SAY WE CAN DO IT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO MAKE EXTRA MONEY ON THIS ONE BECAUSE IT IS OUT OF COUNTY AND THE D. A. COMES BACK US TO AND SAYS WAIT A MINUTE, HE PUT WILSON COUNTY AHEAD OF OUR SIX. I AM OKAY, BUT I HAVE GOT -- I JUST -- I JUST THOUGHT OF THIS. SORRY I DIDN'T THINK OF THIS BEFORE. I WANT SOME SORT OF SAFEGUARD

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IN THIS THAT SOMEBODY BESIDES HIM LOOKS AT IT AND MAKES THAT DECISION. I MEAN NO DISRESPECT FOR HIM,

BUT I JUST -- I JUST -- >>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T KNOW

IF THIS HELPS OR NOT. >> I DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM

THE D. A. AGAIN -- >>JUDGE CANALES: ONCE WE HAVE AN INTERLOCAL. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT, BUT IF IT IS HELPFUL, THE WAY IT WORKS IF SOMEBODY IS NEW, THE COUNTY JUDGE OF THAT COUNTY REQUESTS IT IN WRITING TO MY OFFICE.

>> I AM OKAY WITH -- LETTING YOU -- OR DALE OR -- SOMEBODY BEING THE DESIGNEE THAT LOOKS AT A SIDE SHAKER.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT IF I JUST TELL HIM HE NEEDS TO CONTACT OUR OFFICE WHEN HE SELECTS AN OUT-OF-COUNTY -- AS

PART -- >> I DON'T WANT THAT D. A A. COMING BACK HERE SAYING HERE COME ALL THE OUT OF COUNTIES BEING PUT AHEAD OF ME. I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

WE GOT TO HAVE OURS FIRST. >> IF HE DOES THAT, THEN WE

WILL STOP. >>JUDGE CANALES: IF THIS --

>> IF THIS HELPS, COMMISSIONERS AND COURTS, THE PROCEDURES AND POLICIES HAVE BEEN KIND OF DRAWN OUT AND NOT COMPLETE.

IT HAVEN'T BEEN BROUGHT BACK. AND THAT COULD BE A PORTION OF THAT. FOR POLICY AND PROCEDURES FROM

NUECES COUNTY. >> I CAN LIVE WITH THAT IF WE ADD THAT AS ANOTHER PERSON WHO MAKES -- HELPS MAKE THAT DECISION, THAT IS FINE. I DON'T -- I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO THAT. COULD YOU PUT THAT IN YOUR NOTES? THAT IS A GOOD SUGGESTION.

I CAN LIVE WITH THAT FOR TODAY. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST KNOW THAT WE WILL REACH OUT FOR HIM. WHAT I THINK HE COULD DO, JENNY, IS HE COULD PROVIDE A WEEKLY UPDATE.

>> THAT'S TOO MUCH. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NUECES COUNTY CASES ARE GETTING DONE FIRST.

AND IF THAT HAPPENS AND THERE IS ROOM AND TIME TO DO OTHERS TO MAKE THIS COUNTY MONEY AND MAKE HIM MONEY, OKAY.

BUT IT HAS GOT TO BE NUECES COUNTY FIRST, IN MY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OUR AGREEMENT SAYS THAT.

OUR AGREEMENT DOES STATE THAT. >> LET'S RE-EMPHASIZE IN THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. WE WILL PASS AND HE HAS TO LIVE IT AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO DOES -- NOT A PERSONAL AFFRONT TO HIM, ANYBODY CAN PUT IN THAT POSITION THAT COULD BE CON

CONFLICTED AND NOT WHAT -- >> DO WE HAVE A COPY OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT HE DOES WITH WILSON COUNTY AND HIDALGO.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT'S WHAT IS HERE.

IN PACKET UNDER FIVE. WE ARE THE MEDICAL EXAMINER FOR 19 COUNTIES. THIS IS PROBABLY COUNTY NUMBER 20. AND IF ANY NEW COUNTIES COME IN, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

YOU WILL KNOW ABOUT THAT. >> WILSON COUNTY AGREEMENT IS

PAGE 477 OF LARGE PACKET. >> PAGE 477.

>>JUDGE CANALES: AGAIN, WE APPROVED THIS AGREEMENT.

WE SENT IT TO THEM TO SIGN IT. IT IS COMING BACK BECAUSE THEY HAVE SIGNED IT. NOT THE FIRST TIME WE LOOK AT

THIS. >> I JUST WANT TO SEE A COPY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL GET THAT FOR YOU.

TYNER, WILL YOU GET THAT FOR HIM?

>> THE SAME AGREEMENT THAT IS ATTACHED?

>>JUDGE CANALES: YEAH. WHENEVER YOU CAN.

IN THAT CASE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE FOR WILSON COUNTY -- SORRY, WITH WILSON COUNTY BETWEEN THE MEDICAL

EXAMINER. >> SO MOVED.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL SE SECOND.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. WE WILL GET YOU BOTH.

BOTH THE DOCUMENTATION THAT SHOW THE INTERLOCAL AND THE DOCUMENTATION BETWEEN THE MEDICAL EXAMINER AND THE COUNTY. I AM NOT SURE, TYNER -- I AM GUESSING HE GOT UP TO GO GET THEM BUT WE WILL GET IT BEFORE

[6. Discuss and consider architectural services agreement with LBL Architects, Inc. (d/b/a Shelter Planners of America) related to County Animal Care Facility.]

YOU LEAVE HERE. NUMBER 6 IS THE ARCHITECTURAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH LBL ARCHITECTS.

I REMEMBER SHELTER PLANNERS OF AMERICA RELATED TO THE COUNTY ANIMAL CARE FACILITY. I AM KIND OF EXCITED BECAUSE MARKS THE FIRST TIME I THINK THAT WE USED OUR CO 2021 PRIORITIZATION ON NEW FACILITIES.

THIS IS A RESULT OF 2019 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, 2 2020'S FEASIBILITY STUDY AND NOW 2021 SCOTT, I DIDN'T MEAN

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TO DO IT BUT I DID IT AGAIN. TIME IN MIDSTREAM.

>> GIVE THE POOR GUY A BREAK. >>JUDGE CANALES: I KNOW.

BUT THIS IS ANIMALS. YOU WILL LOVE THIS ONE.

>> THIS IS ONE I MAY HAVE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE WILL GO TO SCOTT.

YOU WANT A DELAY IN THE AFTERNOON.

A LOT TO UNPACK ON LIFEGUARD PROTECTION.

LET'S FINISH THIS. BUT THE ANIMAL CARE FACILITY, JOHN. YOU HAVE BEEN KIND OF THE LEAD HERE WITH SHELTER PLANNERS. WE COMMISSIONED $3 MILLION AND OUT OF THOSE FUNDS COME DESIGN AND I AM WONDERING WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE LEAD. PITCH TO YOU COMMISSIONER MAREZ, AND KYLE LEBLANC IS ON LINE FOR COST ESTIMATES.

WE WILL ASK KYLE TO GET READY AND WE WILL PITCH TO JOHN.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO THIS ITEM IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DISCUSSED IN LENGTH PRIOR WHEN WORKING OUT OUR 2021 C. O. BONDS. THIS IS NOT THE FULL AMOUNT.

I KNOW THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON THE OVERALL DESIGN AND IF THAT COULD BRING DOWN COST. AND SO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS I KNOW HAS BEEN A CONCERN FOR ME AS WELL I KNOW OTHER CONCERNS AS FAR AS THE NEED AND I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THERE IS A NEED. I GET A CALL PRETTY OFTEN FROM ONE OF OUR MAIN VOLUNTEERS, LISA BUCKHOLT WHO HAS BEEN HERE BEFORE THE COURT AND BEEN HERE MANY YEARS WITH NUECES COUNTY AS A VOLUNTEER WITH ANIMAL CONTROL WHICH IS NOW ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, AND SPEAKING WITH RON RAMIREZ AND THE BUILDING IS OUTDATED. NOT A PRACTICAL LOCATION.

IT IS BLOCKED BY THE PRECINCT 3 YARD.

WE HAVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT OUT THERE AND THE EQUIPMENT 3 C CREWSS HAVE. YOU HAVE TO MEANDER YOUR WAY TO THE BACK OF THE LOT TO GET TO THE LOCATION OF THE SHELTER AND NOT PRACTICAL. SO THE PROPOSED SITE THAT WAS SELECTED IS ALONG BUSINESS 77 AND 44 NEXT TO THE OLD SHOW BARN. AND I FULLY SUPPORT THIS WITH THE DESIGN AND MOVING WITH THE SHELTER PLANNERS OF AMERICA THAT PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO THIS AS HAS KYLE LEBLANC. WE MET SEVERAL TIMES ON THIS ITEM ALONE AND I KNOW CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS AND MAYBE KYLE CAN HELP SOME MORE TO GET IT ADDRESSED BECAUSE I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. WE HAD A LOT OF CLOSE CALLS AND ISSUES WITH ANIMAL-RELATED DISEASES THAT, ONE, CAN BE BETTER MITT GATED BY A BETTER DESIGN.

THAT IS REALLY WHAT MY PUSH IS FOR PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF THESE ANIMALS BY THE WAY HAVE ALMOST 100% ADOPTION RATE BECAUSE OF OUR VOLUNTEERS AND OUR STAFF AND WORKING THEM TO BE VACCINATED.

>> I AM GOING TO START THIS BY CONTINUING TO BE CONSISTENT, I AGREED OF PUTTING MONEY INTO THE CIP FOR CONSENSUS FOR ANIMALS. WE SHOULD SUPPORT THAT, BUT NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THIS WAY. I WOULDN'T BE TRUE TO MYSELF.

I THINK WE SHOULD BE COMBINING THIS TO THE CITY.

WE MADE NO EFFORTS TO DO THAT. I DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD SPEND $3 MILLION FOR BUILDING A NEW FACILITY IN NUECES COUNTY.

I DON'T. NOT SOMETHING TO GET MY ARMS AROUND AND I WILL BE -- I AM NOT ANTI-ANIMALS.

I HAD TO PUT ONE OF MY DOGS THREE WEEKS AGO AND NOT THAT.

I AM HAPPY THE SPEND MONEY AND NOT THE BEST WAY TO SEND IT.

HOW DO WE GO IN THE CITY AND HOW DO WE COMBINE OUR FACILITY AND LET THEM RUN -- WE CAN DO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY AND THE CITY COULD RUN THIS THING --

>>JUDGE CANALES: TALKING OF CITY OF ROBSTOWN.

>> ROBSTOWN OR CORPUS CHRISTI. IT IS PART OF NUECES COUNTY.

I DON'T CARE ROBSTOWN, CORPUS OR WHATEVER, I DON'T AGREE ON

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BUILDING A LARGER FACILITY WHEN WE CAN COMBINE WITH ANOTHER ENTITY. THE LACK IS FOR A FACILITY BUT NOT FOR SPENDING THE MONEY IN ANOTHER WAY, IN A DIFFERENT W WAY, BUT THAT'S JUST, WHERE I HAVE BEEN.

I PUT THIS MONEY IN BECAUSE I WANTED TO HELP THE ANIMALS AND I THINK THERE IS A BETTER WAY. WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT.

>>JUDGE CANALES. I WANT TO GET ALL THE FACTS OUT. WILL YOU REMIND THE COURT.

IT IS THE ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES AGREEMENT.

WILL YOU TALK TO US OF THE DOLLARS FOR THAT AGREEMENT AND ANY INFORMATION WE NEED TO KNOW AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION BUT IT WILL HELP TO CONTINUE THE

INFORMATIONAL PIECE. >> YES, THANKS, JUDGE.

I WILL BRING BACK -- GO BACK TO THE CIP.

WHAT -- WHAT WAS PLANNED IN THE CIP IN 2019, WAS AN EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING FACILITY BACK IN 2019,S THAT WAS THE PLAN.

SINCE THEN SHELTERS PLANNERS OF AMERICA WAS HIRED TO DO A NEEDS ASSESSMENT STUDY AND THE RESULT OF THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT YOU NEEDED A NEW FACILITY AND EXPOSURE.

AS A RESULT OF THAT, THE PLAN WAS TO MOVE LOCATIONS AS COMMISSIONER MAREZ STATED TO A NEW MORE EXPOSED LOCATION TO NOT ONLY EXPAND THE SIZE OF THE FACILITY AND THE ABILITY TO HOUSE MORE ANIMALS, BUT ALSO TO INCREASE THE ADOPTION RATE.

OVER THE PAST YEAR, SEVERAL STAKEHOLDERS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN PROGRAMMING WITH THE SHELTERS PLANNER OF THE AMERICA. THE RESULT OF THAT IS $3 MILLION TO $4 MILLION FACILITY. WHAT WE ARE BRINGING FOR YOU TODAY, A $3.5 MILLION ESTIMATED ANIMAL CARE FACILITY, AND BASED ON THAT $3.5 MILLION ESTIMATED FACILITY AS PLANNED IN THE CIP, THE -- DESIGN WORK FOR THAT IS WHAT THE AGENDA ITEM TO BRING SHELTERS PLANNERS OF AMERICA TO PLAN THE FACILITY.

PART OF THAT WAS TO BUDGET FOR THAT WORK AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW. BUDGET FOR THAT WORK AT THE TIME OF CIP WAS FINALIZED A LITTLE OVER $600,000.

AND WE ARE RIGHT AT THAT MARK. JUST UNDER IT WITH THE $595,000 FEE FOR SHELTER PLANNERS FOR AMERICA'S WORK THAT INCLUDES NOT ONLY THE ARCHITECTURE AND GEOTECHNICAL EVERYTHING TO GIVE YOU A TURNKEY DESIGN FOR THIS FACILITY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, AND SO THEN THAT TODAY'S ITEM WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT. THE AIA AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE

BEEN USING? >> YES, JUDGE, THE COUNTY'S AIA -- AIA STANDARD AGREEMENT THAT WE PUT IN FRONT OF SEVERAL ARCHITECTURE FIRMS THAT COME ON BOARD FOR THE CIP PROJECTS AND THIS IS THE SAME THING. STANDARD AIA AGREEMENT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, SO COMMISSIONERS?

>> WHAT IS THE COST RIGHT NOW? I THOUGHT I SAW SOMEWHERE IT WAS GOING TO BE FOR THE ENGINEER FIRMS, 2 MILLION, $3 MILLION? WHAT IS THE COST FOR THE DESIGN

ENGINEERING AND ALL THAT? >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU MEAN -- ALL THE DESIGN BEING PAID FOR THIS FACILITY IS $600,000.

RIGHT UNDER $600,000. WHAT WE HAVE BUDGETED IS $ $595,000. THAT COULD GO UP AND DOWN DEPENDING ON THE EVENTUAL FINALIZED COST OF THE WORK.

RIGHT NOW $3.5 MILLION BUDGET FOR ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE FACILITY. BASED ON THAT IS HOW THE FEE IS GENERATED FOR SHELTER PLANNERS FOR AMERICA WHICH IS THE COMPLETE DESIGN ALONG WITH CIVIL ENGINEERING AND OTHER MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL PLUMBING ENGINEERING.

ACOUSTICAL ENGINEERING AND COST ESTIMATE CONSULTATION.

THE WHOLE PACKAGE IS WHAT YOU ARE GETTING WITH THIS -- WITH

THIS CONTRACT. >> THE 3.5 IN.

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>>JUDGE CANALES: 600,000. >> I THOUGHT I READ IT DIFFERENTLY. THE CIP FOR 2021 AND MY RECOMMENDATION AT THAT TIME TO GO BACK AND PUT THIS THING ON THE TABLE TO GIVE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO GET INVOLVED IN NEW PROJECTS. IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT I REMEMBER WHEN I SUBMITTED THE REQUEST FOR CIP TO BREAK IT DOWN. AND I THINK WE VOTED ON THAT

BUT I DON'T REMEMBER CORRECTLY. >> SHELTER PLANNERS OF AMERICA WILL BE THE DESIGN ARCHITECT. THEY WILL HAVE SEVERAL CONSULTANTS UNDER THEM. THEY ARE LOCAL TO THE CORPUS

AREA AND -- >> WHAT I SAW SEVEN FROM DALLAS/FT. WORTH AND ONE FROM CORP US.

>> TWO FROM CORPUS, AND ONE FROM INDIANA.

THE COST CONSULTANT. >> INDIANA, DALLAS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE LOCAL PEOPLE.

WHY AREN'T WE RECRUITING LOCAL PEOPLE TO DO THIS JOB.

THEY ARE -- WHY ARE WE GOING OUT OF TOWN WITH ALL THESE

COMPANIES? >>JUDGE CANALES: SHELTERS PLANNERS OF AMERICA WAS HIRED BY THIS COURT BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THEY DO ALL OVER THE COUNTRY IS SPECIALIZE IN ANIMAL

CARE. >> THAT IS FINE.

CAN WE TELL THEM TO HIRE SOMEBODY LOCAL?

>>JUDGE CANALES: NICHOLS IS LOCAL OPINIONED TERRACON IS LOCAL. NOT TO SAY ALL THE WORK THAT WILL BE DOWN, ELECTRICAL, THE PLUMBING, THE SHEETROCK.

>> ON LIST AND ELECTRICAL AND CHEMICAL.

>> THAT IS DESIGN. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS THE

DESIGN, NOT CONTRACTING. >> ALL THESE COMPANIES FOR DOG POUND -- WHY AREN'T THEY USING LOCAL PEOPLE.

>> WE ACTUALLY GO THROUGH RFP PROCESS.

THIS IS JUST FOR THE DESIGN. THE DESIGN IS DIFFERENT.

WE DO ENCOURAGE LOCAL WORK, BUT WE ALSO ENCOURAGE BEST VALUE AND THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS TO WORK.

THEY WILL GET THERE, THEY JUST NOT THERE YET.

THIS IS THE ARCHITECTURAL PIECE OF IT.

>> I THOUGHT WE WERE UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT 2021 WE WILL COME BACK AND PUT EVERYTHING FOR A RFP -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO CALL IT AND GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYBODY ELSE TO BID, PROGRAM MANAGERS OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM.

I THINK THIS IS ONE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT FOR THE NEW CIP 2021. NOW GOING WITH THE 2021 WITHOUT

-- >>JUDGE CANALES: I AM GOING TO REFRESH THE COURT'S MEMORY. WE ACTUALLY SPENT DAYS IN W WORKSHOP AND WE CAME UP WITH A CONSENSUS ON THE DOLLARS WE WOULD BE USING THAT INCLUDED GENERATORS -- TYNER, GET ME THE DOCUMENT. $5 MILLION THAT ALL FIVE OF US VOTED ON A NUECES COUNTY ANIMAL CARE AND CONTROL.

>> I AM NOT -- >>JUDGE CANALES: DID YOU.

>> LET ME FINISH, OKAY. I SAID I DON'T MIND A DOG PO POUND. I SUPPORT A DOG POUND.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A DOG POUND.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WHO WE ARE USING THAT ARE NOT LOCAL PE

PEOPLE. >>JUDGE CANALES: SHELTER --

>> THING IT JUDGE, BROUGHT IT UP IF YOU REMEMBER USING 2021, WE WOULD GO BACK TO THE TABLE AND SAY WHO CAN WE ASSIGN THE MONIES FROM 2021 TO LET OUR LOCAL PEOPLE CHANCE TO APPLY

FOR THOSE MONIES. >>JUDGE CANALES: AGAIN, SHELTERS PLANNERS OF AMERICA IS ON 2019.

>> I WILL PUT IT ON AGENDA SO WE CAN ACTUALLY ASSIGN HOW WE ARE GOING TO SPEND THOSE 2021S. AND LITTLE BY LITTLE AND GIVE TO CERTAIN PEOPLE. NOT CALLED A DOG POUND.

100 YEARS AGO. >> NOT IMPORTANT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: IMPORTANT -- WELL, CALL IT THE RIGHT THING.

IT IS CALLED ANIMAL CARE. WE DON'T CALL IT THE DOG POUND.

WE CALL IT THE ANIMAL CARE. >> SORRY IF I OFFENDED YOU.

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>>JUDGE CANALES: APOLOGIZE TO THE DOG.

>>. >> I REMEMBER VOTING FOR THE CIP. $3 MILLION.

BUT I THINK I SAID ALL ALONG TO SPEND IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND

COMBINE. >>JUDGE CANALES: WE SAID THAT.

FOR THE DEMOCRACY TO SAY AT THIS TIME WHAT IS BEFORE US.

WE SAID AFTER WE PRIORITIZE WHEN IT WAS APPROPRIATE AND TIMELY, WE WOULD BRING -- THE REASON WE BORROWED THE $50 MILLION WAS TO DO PROJECTS. SO THIS ARCHITECT, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, WAS THE SAME ONE WE USED TWO YEARS AGO TO GET US TO THIS POINT. AND ALREADY DONE WORK TO BRING US THE NEED THAT WE HAVE GO GOTTEN.

WE ALL HEAR YOU THAT LOCAL IS IMPORTANT.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO EVERYBODY BUT THE WAY YOU GET LOCAL IS YOU ARE HIRE AND GO OUT FOR BID.

YOU GO OUT FOR BID AND EVERY LOCAL CONTRACTOR GETS TO BID ON IT AND THEY GET TO USE ALL LOCAL SUBCONTRACTORS.

BUT DESIGNER, THAT SHIP SAILED WHEN THIS COURT CHOSE THEM TWO YEARS AGO. THEY ARE AN EXPERT IN THE FI FIELD. THIS IS ALL THEY DO AND I KNOW THAT NUECES COUNTY DESERVES AND WANTS THE BEST.

JOHN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD.

>> I AGREE. THE LOCAL COMPONENT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.

BUT ANIMAL SHELTERS -- OR SHELTER PLANNERS OF AMERICA HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR TWO YEARS AND THEY ARE THE GO-TO GROUP AND ASK ANY ARCHITECTURAL PERSON, THEY SAY I CAN DESIGN YOU BUT I WOULD WANT SOMEBODY THAT SPECIALIZES IN THIS.

A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DESIGN THE HARBOR BRIDGE BUT YOU WANT A SELECT FEW WHO DO THIS ALL T TIME.

THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. THE FACT IT IS ONLY $600,000 -- THE $3 MILLION WILL JUMP OUT AND SCARE YOU THAT IS WHAT WE ARE WASTING OUR TIME AND MONEY, NOT THE CASE.

THE CIVIL ENGINEER, GEOTECH, ARCHITECTURE AND THE OTHER SERVICES THAT ARE INCLUDED THE ACOUSTICAL.

NOT THAT CLOSE TO HOMES BUT YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO BE BOTHERED MORE THAN THE TRAIN THAT RUNS THROUGH TOWN.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT AND I AGREE WITH YOU ALL IN CONCEPT, BUT THIS ONE, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING -- THEY ARE SPECIALISTS, RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT THIS.

I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO CLEARLY NEED TO SEND A MESSAGE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT MORE LOCAL AND WE HAD THAT ON SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS WE WORKED ON AND FOR THIS ONE, NICHOLS, TERRACON AS WELL, WITH HE A MIX OF THAT OUT OF THE $600,000.

AND LIKE THE JUDGE SAID, WHATEVER DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT ARE LEFT TO ACTUALLY BUILD THE PROJECT I THINK WE SHOULD AND FOCUS ON LOCAL BUILDERS AND LOCAL CON STROUNG PUT THAT TOGETHER -- CONSTRUCTION TO PUT THAT TOGETHER.

COMPLEMENTS ENOUGH OF MY CONCERN AS WELL THAT IT IS LOCAL AND A SPECIALIST FROM OUT OF THE AREA THAT CAN DO THIS.

ANYONE CAN SAY THEY CAN DO IT AND BUILD IT, BUT I WANT THE BEST AND SOMEBODY THAT IS RECOGNIZED NATIONALLY AND SOMEBODY THAT DOES THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS AND NOT ANYTHING ELSE. IT IS SPECIALTY WORK AND THAT'S I DIDN'T SUPPORT IT AND I FEEL WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.

I HEAR WHAT YOU ALL ARE SAYING ON EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE FOR A WHILE, I WELCOME YOU TO GO OUT THERE AND I WILL MEET YOU THERE AND WE WILL GO AND TAKE A TOUR AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PITFALLS OF THE CURRENT DESIGN.

IF YOU GET A -- ANY KIND OF OUTBREAK OUT THERE, PARV O, ESPECIALLY CAN BE VERY PREVALENT.

THE DESIGN WE HAVE RIGHT NOW DOES NOT HAVE ANY ISOLATION AREA OUT THERE. I KNOW THIS NEW DETAIN WILL HAVE THAT IN PLACE. AND I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT.

ALL YOU NEED IS TO TAKE ONE, AND IT WILL INFECT ALL OTHERS.

JUST LIKE OUR JAILS, YOU PUT A WHOLE BUNCH IN HOLDING CELLS AND THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. WE HAVE LIMITED SOURCES AT THE JAIL. AND LIMITED SOURCES AT ANIMAL CONTROL. SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT THINK IT IS A BIG DEAL, BUT IT IS. JOIN ME OUT THERE TO SEE WHAT IS NEEDED. I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, THIS, LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, IS -- WE WISH WE HAD IT YESTERDAY. AND SO, THAT IS ALL I AM ASKING FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THAT. ONE, THERE IS A LOCAL COMPONENT TO THIS. AND -- I WOULD ARGUE IF WE HAD

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100%, THAT WOULD SATISFY US. BUT I FEEL CONFIDENT IN THE LOCAL COMPONENT THAT WE HAVE. WE HIRED -- I THINK WE HIRED GENACWITH AND OTHER PLANNING FOR LOCAL COMPONENT AND WE ARE INCLUDING MORE OF THAT IN OUR PLANS IF WE ARE DEALING WITH BIGGER COMPANIES OUT OF THE ANIMAL AND THIS WAS MY INITIAL CONCERN TOO. THE FACT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF LOCAL PARTNERS, PART OF IT GOES A LONG WAY.

AND I THINK -- THEY CONTINUE TO BUILD WITH THE -- WITH THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE HAD FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS, AND THE INPUT WE ARE ABLE TO GIVE, PERHAPS THIS IS THE TIME ALSO TO TALK ABOUT DRAWING DOWN DESIGN AND SEE WHAT HAS CHANGED IN THE LAST TWO YEARS SINCE WE FIRST STARTED TO COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT CONCEPT THAT COULD REDUCE THE OVERALL COST.

THIS IS THE TIME TO DO IT TO IMPACT THE CONSTRUCTION COST AS WELL. SO I AGREE WITH YOU.

I AM WITH YOU ON OTHER ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE. BUT FOR THIS ONE I WOULD LIKE

TO GET THIS STARTED. >> THE MERGE WITH THE CITY, JOHN, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT.

>> I LOVE THE IDEA, BUT CITY OF ROBSTOWN DOESN'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY. IF THEY ARE IN NEED, THEY GO TO

US. >> CORPUS CHRISTI.

>> THE ONE IN CORPUS, THEY HAVE A GREAT FACILITY.

A GREAT FOOTPRINT, BUT IT IS KIND OF A DRIVE.

EVERYTHING WILL HAVE DRIVE, RIGHT, TO IT.

I AM NOT OUT OF THE WAY OF SAYING TRY TO CONSOLIDATE.

BUT I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE CAN PUT THEM ON A -- ON A MAJOR FOOTPRINT. THE HOLY ROAD FOR THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI IS EASY ONCE YOU GO DOWN HOLLY ABOUT A MILE OR SO YOU GET TO THE FACILITY BUT OURS IN ROBSTOWN MORE CENTERED IN ROBSTOWN AND HELPING OUT OUR PARTNERS, BISHOP, DRISCOL.

IT REALLY IS MADE MORE KIND OF RURAL.

THAT'S WHY THE FOOTPRINT AND THE DESIGN IS STILL NOT GOING TO BE ANYTHING COMPARED TO THE SIZE OF THE CITY OF CORPUS

CHRISTI. >> THE NEED IS SO GREAT.

WE SAW 1200 VETERINARY VISITS ALONE THAT CAME FROM THAT AREA.

OVER 1200. IN ADDITION, WE ARE THE SECOND WORST IN THE ENTIRE NATION OF TAKING CARE OF OUR ANIMALS.

THE NEED IS GREAT. IT IS WELL-DOCUMENTED.

WE DELVE TO BE A COMMUNITY THAT INVESTS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THE THING AND PEOPLE THAT THEY LOVE.

AND ANIMALS FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY.

AND ALL -- THERE ARE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE AS A COUNTY, LIKE MEDICAL EXAMINER SERVICES AND ANIMALS SERVICES THAT ARE PART OF OUR DUTIES, AND WHEN WE DO IT, WE CAN BECOME A BETTER COMMUNITY. THE FASTERS AND ADOPTION ALSO NOT HAPPEN UNLESS WE GET A NEW FACILITY.

THAT IS ABSOLUTE. AND THE FACT OF THE VACCINATIONS AND QUITE FRANKLY THE DISEASE IS A HUGE COMPONENT IN THE RURAL AREAS WHERE YOU DON'T SEE DOGS ON LEASHES LIKE YOU WOULD NECESSARILY WALKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE URBAN CENTER. THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE AGAIN AND I WANT TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS CONTRACT TOO, BUT I REALLY --

>> HOLD ON JUDGE JUDGE FORGIVE ME, HE WAS BRINGING ME

SOMETHING. >> WE REALLY NEED TO SPEND MONEY HELPING OUR ANIMALS. AND, AGAIN, I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE OF NOT THE NEED TO DO IT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE ARE -- WE ARE EXPLORING ALL OPTIONS.

WE HAVEN'T EXPLORED THE OPTIONS WITH CONSOLIDATION.

A LITTLE FAR, SURE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE ISSUE.

THE ISSUE IS WE ARE SPENDING A TON OF MONEY THAT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE SPENDING AT THIS POINT.

MY QUESTION ON THE -- ON THE ARCHITECT CONTRACT IS, SO I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED ON THIS. WE HAVE HIRED ANIMAL PLANNERS BEFORE. WHY DO WE NEED A NEW CONTRACT.

WE HAVE PAID THEM FOR THE WORK THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE, I

BELIEVE. >> THE STUDY THAT WAS PERFORMED WAS, I BELIEVE, A TOTAL OF 22,000.

SO IT WAS SIMPLY A PURCHASE ORDER.

THIS IS A CONTRACT THAT IS WELL BEYOND THAT.

>> THE POINT IS -- THE POINT IS, WE DON'T HAVE TO USE SHELTER PLANNERS. WE PAID FOR THEM WHAT THEY DID.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS NOT CORRECT.

THAT IS WHAT I ASKED TYNER. ON APRIL 28 OF THIS YEAR, THE COURT APPROVED THE SELECTION OF LBL, SHELTERS PLANNER OF AMERICA TO PROVIDE ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES.

MOTIONED BY MAREZ. SECONDED BY GONZALEZ AND A 5-0 VOTE. WE ALREADY SELECTED IN

ARCHITECT AS A COURT IN APRIL. >> WHEN GIVEN A GO BY THE COURT IN APRIL, IT HAS BEEN THIS LONG TO NEGOTIATE A 120-SO

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120-SOMETHING-PAGE CONTRACT. >> THE POINT IN TIME IS WE

HAVEN'T SIGNED A CONTRACT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS WHAT

TODAY. >> WE CAN PUT SOMETHING ON TO RECONSIDER IF THE COURT CHOSE TO RECONSIDER THAT ITEM THAT WOULD BE COMPLETELY REGET TO GO BACK AND RECONSIDER USING A LOCAL ARCHITECTURAL FIRM TO DO THAT.

THAT IS AN OPTION. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT WILL BE A TERRIBLE IDEA AND A LOSS OF TWO YEARS.

>> BUT IT -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE ARE ARTICULATING WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AS A COURT, WE ARE COMPLETELY TELLING THE ENTIRE STORY. THE ENTIRE STORY WAS WE VOTED BEFORE. IT HAS BEEN RAISED BY THE MAN WHO SECONDED THE ISSUE. WHY NOT HIRE MORE LOCAL PEOPLE.

THE ANSWER IS WE COULD RECONSIDER THIS AND NOT APPROVE THIS CONTRACT TODAY IF WE SO CHOSE.

THAT IS UP TO SOMEONE ELSE. I AM NOT MAKING THAT MOTION.

I WOULD NOT -- I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD SUPPORT IT OR NOT, BUT THERE IS THAT OPTION BEFORE WE SIGN THE CONTRACT.

BEFORE WE SIGN THIS CONTRACT, THE COURT NEEDS TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT BE COULD RECONSIDER IT, NUMBER ONE, OR WE COULD PAUSE COMPLETELY AND GO -- TRY TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY BECAUSE ONCE WE SIGN THIS CONTRACT, WE ARE NOW GOING TO SPEND REAL DOLLARS AND KIND OF MY -- I AM STILL GOING TO CONTINUE TO VOTE AGAINST ITEMS THAT COME UP, BUT THIS IS KIND OF MY LAST DIATRIBE AT LENGTH. NOW WE ARE SPENDING REAL MONEY.

THIS IS THE FIRST REAL MONEY WE ARE SPENDING.

>>JUDGE CANALES: MONEY WE TOLD PEOPLE THANK WHO BOUGHT OUR BONDS THAT WE WOULD TO DO IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITY AND

COUNTY. >> WE DIDN'T SAY HOW WE WERE GOING TO SPEND THAT. WE SAID WE WILL SPEND THAT MONEY ON AN ANIMAL CARE FACILITY.

WE DIDN'T SAY WHAT FACILITY. IT HAS TO BE SPECIFIC.

IN GENERAL CATEGORIES. WE SAID WE ARE GOING TO SPEND IT. I AM SAYING LET'S LOOK AT SPENDING MONEY ON ANIMAL CARE, I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS IN THIS

FASHION. >>JUDGE CANALES: I FEEL IT IS DISINGENUOUS. IN THE CIP INCLUDED AN ANIMAL

SHELTER FACILITY. >> NOT DISINGENUOUS, I MADE THIS COMMENT SINCE THE BEGIN ON TIME OF THIS.

>> THEY HAVE NOT BUILT ANYTHING IN CORPUS.

THEY ARE A NATIONAL ANIMAL FACILITY BUILDER.

>> COULDN'T WE HAVE GONE TO THE CITY OR -- AND SAY WHO BUILT YOUR ANIMAL CARE FACILITY AND MAYBE COULD HAVE FOUND OUT AND TALKED TO THOSE PEOPLE AND SEE --

>>JUDGE CANALES: I TELL YOU THAT WHAT COULD HAVE, SHOULD HAVE, LET ME TELL YOU FOR LAST TWO YEARS, WE -- WE HAVE EMBARKED UPON WHAT OUR NEEDS WERE.

WE HIRED AS A COURT WHEN YOU WERE NOT THERE, WE HIRED THIS GROUP TO BRING US OUR NEEDS AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB AND NOW WITH THE NEEDS, WE MOVE TO THE SECOND PHASE WHICH IS HOW CAN WE GO ABOUT FUNDING IT. AND THEN MOVE INTO THE THIRD PHASE, WE SELECTED AN ARCH ARCHITECT.

IF WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE INTEGRITY, WE NEED TO ACTUALLY KEEP OUR WORD. OUR WORD IS OUR BOND.

WE SELECTED THESE FOLKS AS A GROUP -- HEY, NOT TWO YEARS A AGO. A FEW MONTHS AGO.

HOW LONG IS IT -- FROM APRIL TO JULY THAT WE ALL HAVE AMNESIA.

WE SELECTED THEM IN APRIL WITH A 5-0 VOTE.

AMNESIA, BECAUSE THAT MEANS WHEN YOU FORGET.

BUT IF YOU -- IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO SELECT THEM.

WHY DID YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF THEM APRIL 8, 2021.

>> IF YOU WERE ASKING ME MY ANSWER IS -- I SAID TO YOU I AM PROBABLY NOT GOING TO MAKE THAT MOTION.

I AM JUST SAYING THE OPTION DOES EXIST AND THAT NEEDS --

>>JUDGE CANALES: ALL OPTIONS. >> NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I AGREE. >> WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT DISCUSSION THEN. ALL I AM SAYING I AM NOT VOTING

AGAINST THIS BECAUSE -- >>JUDGE CANALES: I KNOW OFF

DIFFERENT REASON. >> RIGHT.

YOU ARE RIGHT. BUT I DO -- I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT, YES, FREEZE NICHOLS IS IN HERE AND TERRACON IN HERE BUT THE POSSIBILITY TO GET MORE LOCAL PARTICIPATION OUT OF THIS CONTRACT WITH SHELTER PLANNERS AND SAY TO OUR CONSULTANTS, JP AND KYLE.

HEY, GUYS, WE ARE OKAY WITH SHELTER PLANNERS EVEN THOUGH I AM VOTING AGAINST IT BUT NOT FOR THOSE REASONS.

OKAY WITH SHELTER PLANNERS. WE WANT MORE LOCAL IN HERE.

GET THEM LOCAL. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY GET TO THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE.

MAYBE WHEN THEY GET TO THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE.

THAT, TO ME, IS SOMETHING WE WORK ON WITH THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE. BUT RIGHT NOW THE DESIGNER IS BROUGHT IN LOCAL. THEY BROUGHT IN TWO DIFFERENT LOCAL TEAMS. WE CHOSE THEM APRIL 28, 2021.

THEY RELIED ON THAT IN GOOD FAITH AND NEGOTIATED IN GOOD FAITH AND I AM JUST GOING TO CALL THE VOTE.

YOU KNOW IF YOU WANT TO VOTE AGAINST WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY DONE, I SUPPOSE, WE ARE GOING TO DO IT.

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BUT AT SOME POINT -- WE NEED TO ACTUALLY LEARN HOW TO DEEP OUR WORD AND THE RELIANCE THAT PEOPLE HAVE IN US AND GOOD

FAITH IS VERY IMPORTANT. >> I AGREE.

>> YOU KNOW, BUT JUST ME, THESE GUYS ARE LISTENING.

THEY HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR ON LOCAL.

THEY HEAR YOU. THEY HEAR YOU.

>> NO MATTER ON THIS SIDE OF THE AISLE, WE REALLY NEED TO GET THAT ACROSS TO WHOEVER IS CONSULTING ON THAT, WE WANT TO SEE A BIGGER LOCAL COMPONENT. ALL I ASK IS -- LOOK, I KNOW THIS IS NOT A SEXY ITEM LIKE A PIER.

THE PIER IS COST REVENUE. THAT -- THAT IS THE FEEL GOOD, THAT IS THE ONE THAT GETS ATTENTION.

THIS IS NOT, RIGHT, THIS IS MORE PUBLIC HEALTH.

OBVIOUSLY WE ALL AGREE A NEW FACILITY IS NEEDED AND WE WANT IT TO BE EFFICIENT AND WANT IT IF WE COULD TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY AND I THINK WE ARE TOO FAR GONE ON THAT.

BUT I DON'T CARE FOR THAT LOCATION BECAUSE OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE. IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. IT WAS GEARED MORE TOWARD RU RURAL, BUT I AM ALL FOR ANY PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE CAN DO IN THE FUTURE WITH THEM. I DON'T THINK THAT THE LOCATION IS GOING TO -- SHOULD CHANGE MUCH, BECAUSE THAT WENT THROUGH COMMITTEE THAT WE HAD IN RECOMMENDING AND SO.

IT IS NOT A PERFECT LOCATION AND NEAR THE OLD SHOW BARN BUT A SPOT THAT I THINK WILL SERVE THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH RIGHT NOW. AND I KNOW AT LEAST A COUPLE OF AREAS. A COUPLE OF CITIES HAVE ALREADY SHOWN INTEREST THAT ARE ALREADY OUR PARTNERS.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANIMAL CONTROL OR ANIMAL CARE AND RELY ON US TO SERVE THEM. DELAYED RESPONSE TIME AND THE ABILITY TO HELP CONTROL OR CORRALL ANY KIND OF WILD ANIMAL OR DISEASE-RIDDEN ANIMAL. I THINK THIS IS THE BEST WE HAVE. WE ARE IN UNISON ON THE LOCAL COMPONENT AND I HOPE THAT KYLE -- LIKE I SAID, I HOPE YOU SUPPORT IT BECAUSE IT IS NE NEEDED.

IT IS NOT A BIG TICKET ITEM THAT WILL BE A RETURN ON -- RETURN ON INVESTMENT NECESSARILY, BUT IT WILL HELP WITH OVERALL CONTROL. I THINK THAT THE MANAGEMENT OF DISEASE, THE SEPARATION WE DON'T HAVE AVAILABLE AT THAT FACILITY AND GIVES NICE LOOK TO THE WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTY WITH THE BRAND-NEW FACILITY OUT THERE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE MOTION TO CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH LBL ARCHITECTS, THE ONE RELATED TO ANIMAL CARE FACILITY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THE

MOTION OR I CAN. >> SO MOVED TO SUPPORT SHELTER

PLANNERS OF AMERICA. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL SE

SECOND. >> I WANT DISCUSSION.

>>JUDGE CANALES: GO AHEAD. >> I WILL SECOND IT AND I TALKED ABOUT IT AND WE NEED SOMETHING.

YOU KNOW WHERE I AM COMING FROM ON THIS.

BUT I AM -- I AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT YOU, YOU KNOW. BUT I JUST -- FROM THIS TIME ON I AM GOING TO WATCH IT CLOSER IN WHAT WE DO AND HOW WE DO THINGS. BUT, YOU KNOW, I WILL SUPPORT YOU ON THIS. I KNOW IT IS WHAT YOU WANT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I AM GOING TO LET DO YOU THAT SECOND IN THAT CASE. I WILL LET YOU DO THE SECOND.

>> SECOND. >>JUDGE CANALES: AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

OKAY. SCOTT CROSS.

[2. Receive presentation on proposed lifeguard plan pursuant to HB3807.]

WELCOME TO THE KITCHEN, IT IS SHOT.

>> WE HAVE JOE ROMEO AND PATRICIA SHIPTON TO TALK.

>>JUDGE CANALES: LET THEM SET THE STAGE.

SOME OF US KNOW A LOT ABOUT THIS AND OTHERS NEED THE BACKGROUND. JOEL AND PATRICIA, FULL UNMUTE, AND BRING US THIS AGENDA ITEM WHICH COMMISSIONERS IS ITEM NUMBER 2 ON YOUR REGULAR AGENDA AND HAS TO DO WITH LEGISLATION PASSED BY THE GOVERNOR INVOLVING LIFEGUARDS.

WHOEVER WANTS TO TAKE THE LEAD. PATRICIA, I SEE YOU ARE UN

UNMUTEED. >> HAPPY TO.

A BILL THAT REPRESENTATIVE TODD HUNTER CARRIED.

SENATE SPONSOR IS NOW ENTITLED THE JASANI SMITH ACT IN MEMORY

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OF THE YOUNG MAN WHO LOST HIS LIFE.

I WILL SAY THIS. IT WAS A BILL THAT CHAIRMAN HUNTER WAS VERY COMMITTED TO. IT GAINED A LOT OF EMOTIONAL ATTENTION. KIWA NA BENSON, THE YOUNG MAN'S MOTHER, WORKED HARD IN THE LEGISLATURE AND CARRIED THE BILL FORWARD AND SHE WAS VERY COMPELLING.

ONE OF THOSE BILLS THAT IS TRUE DEMOCRACY AT WORK BECAUSE IT GAINED A GROUNDSWELL OF PARENTS AND ADVOCATES.

A LOT OF INPUT AND A LOT OF ATTEMPTS BECAUSE IT AFFECTED PARKS AND WILDLIFE CITIES AND COUNTIES ALL EQUALLY HAVE A OBLIGATION FOR REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN THE BILL, THERE WAS A LOT OF VERY GOOD TECHNICAL INPUT.

A LOT OF VERY GOOD PRACTITIONER INPUT ON THE BILL.

AGAIN THE EMOTIONAL AND THE EFFICACY THAT MISS BENSON AND HERBAL LIES PUT FORTH WAS REALLY COMPELLING.

THIS IS THE BILL WE CAME UP WITH.

I THINK CHAIRMAN HUNTER AND SENATOR HO SA WORKED WITH INTEREST GROUPS. I AM NOT SAYING IT IS A PERFECT PROCESS AND THIS IS WHERE WE ARE NOW.

THIS IS THE BILL. I APPRECIATE MR. CROSS'S INPUT AND HE KEPT US IN TOUCH AND INVOLVED OF MANY THINGS.

I WILL SAY THIS FROM MR. CROSS AND I LEARNED FROM CHAIRMAN HUNTER'S OFFICE, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH OF THE CONVERSATIONS IT WAS, BUT BEACH SAFETY IS AN ONGOING ISSUE THAT CHAIRMAN HUNTER WANTS TO SP SPEARHEAD IN THE LEGISLATURE.

I THINK THERE IS SOME VISION IN THEIR PART TO HAVE A TASK FORCE AND WOULD LIKE US -- YOU AND I AND JOEL AND MR. BELANGA.

AND THAT IS OUR GOAL AND LET YOU GIVE A RUNDOWN OF THE REAL IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS AND WHAT IT IS GOING TO TAKE.

THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU ARE RE

READY. >> SO, YEAH, WHEN THIS WAS ALL BEING PUT TOGETHER, I HAD MORE INTERACTION WITH JOEL ON THE PHONE BUT GLAD TO SEE CHANGE. ORIGINALLY IT WAS PROPOSED AS A MARCH TO NOVEMBER TYPE LIFEGUARD PROGRAM, AND THAT GAVE ME REAL CONCERN BECAUSE I KNOW ALL OF OUR MUNICIPAL PARTNERS WORKED TO FILL OUR POSITIONS.

AND AFTER IT WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND INPUT AND MODIFICATION BASICALLY THE SPRING BREAK AND MEMORIAL DAY THROUGH LABOR DAY WHICH IS MANAGEABLE FOR ALL OF US.

BECAUSE I WAS HEARING FROM THE CITY OF GALVESTON, GALVESTON COUNTY, CORPUS, CAMERON COUNTY, CITY OF SOUTH PEDRO.

FOR WHATEVER REASON I AM HONORED BUT CALLING ME WHAT I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS. AND I ALSO WAS CONCERNED AT THE TIME WHAT THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT FOR THE EMPLOYER MANDATE -- NOT THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE, THAT WENT AWAY.

UNDER THE EMPLOY MANDATE IF YOU HAVE SEASONAL POSITIONS WHICH LIFEGUARDS ARE, YOU CAN'T WORK THEM 50% OR GREATER OR THEY BASICALLY BECOME FTES. I PROVIDED THAT INPUT TO JOEL AND LOOKED AT THAT. ONLY INTERJECTED FACTUAL TH THINGS. I WAS NEVER OPPOSING THE BILL OR THINGS TO CONSIDER THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO COVER.

BUT BEFORE ALL THIS REALLY TAME ABOUT, CHIEF DALE SCOTT WHO IS HERE WITH ME. GREG FULLER WAS HERE EARLIER.

I KNOW COMMISSION REMEMBERS FAMILIAR WITH HIM.

GREG FULLER IS ACTUALLY THE GENTLEMAN WHO SPEARHEADED AND N THE COUNTY'S LIFEGUARD PROGRAM WHEN THE COUNTY BASICALLY -- BEFORE THE CITY ANNEXED BACK IN 2002.

WHEN THE COUNTY DID ALL LIFEGUARDING ON BEACHES OF NUECES COUNTY. HE WORKS WITH PORT A. 'S PROGRAM RIGHT NOW. IT WAS BACK -- I GUESS IT'S 18, '19. I WENT TO CHIEF SCOTT, AND I SAID HEY, MAN 37. AN IDEA LONG BEFORE ANY OF THIS STUFF STARTED OR JESANI SMITH GOT HER PROGRAM STARTED.

I SAID WHAT WILL IT LOOK LIKE IF WE PUT THE LIFEGUARD UNDER ESD NUMBER 2. BECAUSE I WAS FAMILIAR WITH GREG. FAMILIAR WITH THE UNITED LIFEGUARD ASSOCIATION STANDARDS THAT ESD WOULD WANT TOO ACHIEVE AND THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF QUALITY PROGRAM THAT YOU COULD GET. I RESEARCHED THE ONES ON THE WEST COAST, EAST COAST AND ON OUR COAST.

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AND TRUE PROGRAMS LIKE THAT. SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS LIVE WITH THE L.A. SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, ESL 2 AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND THEY DON'T OCCUR AFTER -- THE FIRE STATION OUTSIDE OF WHAT THEY NEED FOR EQUIPMENT, DEDICATED TO A FULL-TIME LIFEGUARD PROGRAM, THESE GUY HAVE A FIRE STATION AND AMBULANCE AND OLYMPICS AND E EMTS.

I KNOW WHEN THE COMMISSIONER -- I GUESS IT WAS IN 2019 OR '20 DALE CALLED ME WHAT KIND OF FTES TO START A LIFEGUARD PROGRAM. I SAID, NO, NO, WE DON'T WANT TO GO THAT ROUTE. WE WANT ONE THAT IS HALFWAY THERE. IT IS EXPENSIVE TO START ONE FROM GROUND UP. IN THE MIDST OF ALL OF THIS, KIND OF TIMELY. I MENTIONED SOMETHING TO A COMMISSIONER A LITTLE WHILE BACK, AND HE WANTED TO SEE A PROPOSAL. I SAT DOWN WITH DALE -- WITH CHIEF SCOTT AND GREG AND WE CAME UP WITH A PROPOSAL THAT I THINK -- THEY ATTACHED TO THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM AND CALLED ON FRIDAY AND ASKED FOR IT. AND SO -- THIS IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. YOU KNOW, I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMISSIONER -- COMMISSIONER CHESNEY ABOUT T THIS. HE SAID I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET ALL THERE IN ANY ONE TIME. I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY WAY I KNEW HOW TO APPROACH THIS WAS TO GIVE YOU ONE WHERE YOU -- YOU PHASE IT AND YOU JUST GET YOUR EQUIPMENT AN FOR 100 --

>> SCOTT, IF I CAN INTERRUPT AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO COORDINATE, JUDGE. IT SHOULDN'T JUST BE US.

MY COMMENT, IT SHOULD BE THE, SD AND THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND NUECES COUNTY. AND COMBINING AND SEE A BEACH DEPARTMENT OF SOME SORT FOR PEACH SAFETY AND SOME SORT RUN THROUGH ESD WITH EVERYBODY PARTICIPATING AT LEAST THE IDEA I CAME UP WITH. I THINK THEY SHOULD RUN IT AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE THE ONLY ONES PARTICIPATING BECAUSE WHO BETTER TO RUN A BEACH DEPARTMENT THAN A ESD.

THEY HAVE AN AMBULANCE. THEY ARE THERE.

THEY ARE SAFETY TRAINED AND THAT KIND OF THING.

EVEN POTENTIALLY -- I DON'T KNOW.PORT A. WILL JUMP IN WITH US AND A REALLY GOOD PROGRAM BUT YOU COULD LEGITIMATELY BRING THEM IN TOO. I TRIED ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS TRY TO SET A MEETING. I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE CITY ON BOARD YET, BUT THE ESD IS A TAXING INDUSTRY.

THEY HAVE SAID -- MY HOPE IS THAT THEY WOULD PARTICIPATE FINANCIALLY AS WELL, BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE IN THE COPE OF WHAT THEY DO. SO -- AND WE HAD ALREADY STARTED UPPING THE LIFEGUARD BUDGET GOING IN AS FAR AS MONEY. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE HAVE TO PUT FORTH TO MEET THE BILLS -- WHAT IS LEFT WITH THE BILL AND, OF COURSE, I MADE AN ADDITIONAL REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL LIFEGUARD FUNDS IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

THE PROPOSAL THAT THE CHIEF SENT OVER, WHICH WAS VERY COMPREHENSIVE IS WELL OVER $1 MILLION BUDGET FOR PROPOSAL AND SO FORTH AND KIND OF LIKE, OKAY --

>>JUDGE CANALES: WOULD THAT COVER WHAT THE BILL --

>> WAY MORE THAN THE BILL. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, OKAY.

>> THAT IS EQUIPMENT AND PUTTING TOGETHER A WHOLE DEPARTMENT BASICALLY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO COVER WHAT TODD'S BILL SAYS. SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONE --

>>JUDGE CANALES: JUST TO REMIND THE COURT AND THE PU PUBLIC. THE BILL COVERS LIFEGUARDS AROUND PIERS AND JETTIES. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. A GRAY AREA OF PORT ARANSAS.

THAT DOESN'T BELONG US TO BUT BELONGS TODAY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. THE BEACH PART OF THAT WE DO LEASE FROM THE CORPS, AND I THINK THAT IS A 25-YEAR LEASE.

THAT LEASE IS UP IN 2023. SO WE WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT -- WHAT THE BENEFIT AND LEASE IT FROM THE CORPS AGAIN. BUT BEHOOVE US TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AND PUT A GUARD STAND.

THE C TO, RPS IS NOT GOING TO PUT A LIFE GUARD OUT THERE.

SO THE PROBLEM WE ARE HAVING IS WITH THE CURRENT SITUATION IS I HAVE GOT GUARDS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE CITY OF PORT ARANSAS.

WE ARE EXECUTING THAT AND LONG BEFORE THIS BILL GOES INTO EFFECT WHICH IS OCTOBER 1, I THINK.

SEPTEMBER 1, AND WE ARE ALREADY DOING THAT.

WE ALREADY RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU KNOW.

EVERY -- YOU TALK TO ANY GUARD OUT THERE AND THE PIERS ARE HOT

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SPOTS BECAUSE THE RIP CURRENT THAT NATURALLY OCCURS WITH THE WATER AROUND THOSE PIERS. DIPT HAVE THE SAME LUXURY AT BOB HALL. I HAVE GOT TO TELL THAT YOU AND NOT GETTING THAT KIND OF SERVICE -- Y'ALL AREN'T GOING TO SAY THIS A AND THIS PROBABLY DOESN'T REFLECT YOURS -- BUT SCOTT CLARK, COASTAL CLARK, I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO PARTICIPATE WITH CORPUS ON THAT.

>> THAT'S OKAY. THAT WILL BE THE COURT'S DECISION. BUT IT WILL BE A FINANCIAL PARTICIPATION. IF THE CITY DOESN'T WANT TO, GREAT. BUT IN MY OPINION, WE ARE -- WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME BEACHES. THE ESD.

MY IDEA IS THE ESD RUN IT IS, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN CITY AND COUNTY TO FUND ALONG WITH THE ESD.

SO THE ESD WILL RUN IT AND THE CITY -- AND MAYBE I DIDN'T CLEARLY ARTICULATE, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY WILL BE A FUNDING PARTY. THEY OUGHT TO RUN IT.

AND THEY OUGHT TO DO IT. >> I CAN LIVE WITH THAT.

>> LOOK, THE CITY IS NOT AN EXPERT OF DOING IT EITHER.

LET'S CALL IT WHAT IT IS. WE DON'T PAY LIKE WHAT WE WANT TO PAY LIFEGUARDS. WE PAY PARKER POOL THEN CITY ARE PAYING LIFEGUARDS ON THE BEACH.

NOT A NEGATIVE BUT WHAT CITY HAS CHOSEN TO DO.

I WANT THE ESD TO RUN IT, -- >> THE ESD COULD -- THE ESD --

>> YOU MAY NOT LIKE THAT IDEA. WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT MEETING Y YET. OKAY, BUT --

>> THE WAY THEY WOULD BE STRUCTURED UNDER THEM IS THE WAY A TRUE LIFEGUARD PROGRAM SHOULD BE STRUCTURED.

PORT A. IS ALREADY GOING TOWARD THAT MODEL.

THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI IS NOT USING THAT, THEY HAVE TO TALK TO THE PERSON TO GET TO THE NEXT PERSON.

>>JUDGE CANALES: NOT PROFESSIONAL.

>> IT IS NOT GOING TO WORK. I WILL TAKE THEIR MONEY BUT I

WON'T TAKE ANYTHING ELSE. >>JUDGE CANALES: ONE OF NICE THINGS WE HAVE LEARNED IS HOW VALUABLE FIRST RESPONDERS CAN BE WHEN YOU HAVE MULTIPLE DISASTERS ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

FOR INSTANCE, THIS LEGISLATION, ONE OF THINGS WE WERE INTERESTED THIS IS WHAT FUNDING SOURCE THERE IS COULD BE POTENTIALLY FROM STATE. JOEL AND PATRICIA ARE STILL LISTENING PART OF HAVING A CHAMPION FOR BEACH SAFETY IS HAVING AN ADVOCATE FOR FUNDING AT THE LEGISLATURE.

BECAUSE IN EVERYBODY'S BEST INTEREST.

PRESIDENT COAST BELONGS TO TEXAS.

WE ARE STEWARDS OFFER HERE IN NUECES COUNTY.

WE HAVE TO CARE FOR IT, BUT IT BELONGS NOT TO US.

YOU WILL HAVE, WE THINK THAT MAYBE THERE COULD BE.

DOLLARS FOR BEACH MAINTENANCE AND PERHAPS DOLLARS FOR L LIFEGUARD -- YOU KNOW IF WE BRING IT UP TO A LEVEL THAT IS

PROFESSIONAL. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> AND THAT IS WHAT WE ALL DESIRE.

GO AHEAD. >> JOEL AND PATRICIA.

CHECK THIS OUT. I MENTION THIS WITH JOL.

Y'ALL HAVE ANOTHER SESSION COMING.

A WIN-WIN IDEA. MANY OF YOU KNOW WE PARTICIPATE IN THE PEACH MAINTENANCE PROGRAM THAT WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE TRACK ALL OF THE EXPENSES.

TWO-THIRDS OF OUR EXPENSES ARE ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

WE. PENNIES ON THE, THAT BUT AT LEAST IT IS SOMETHING. SOMETIMES WE WONDER IF IT IS WORTH IT DOING THE PAPERWORK. SO ANYHOW, IF THERE IS A WAY -- A BUDGET IS SET, THAT THE GENERAL FUND COULD PUT MORE MONEY INTO THE PROGRAM THAT MANY OF US ON THE COAST PARTICIPATE IN CALLED THE BEACH REWOMEN USMENT PROGRAM WHERE WE HAVE MORE OF YOU ARE UNCOVERED LIFEGUARD EXPENSES ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT. THE REASON IT IS LIMITED NOT ANY MONEY TO COVER THOSE EXPENSES.

SO JUST AN IDEA TO THROW OUT THERE.

AND TO GET BACK TO YOUR QUESTION IF YOU WANTED ESD NUMBER 2 TO TAKE OVER AND COVER WHAT WE HAVE NOW FOR THE -- FOR UNDER THE NEW BILL FOR NEXT YEAR, HE WOULD BE LOOKING AT 241, 341. ABOUT 440.

>> WHAT DO WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET SO FAR.

>> GOSH, I CAN'T REMEMBER -- YOU REQUESTED AN ADDITIONAL 50.

I THOUGHT WE HAD 180. I AM NOT SURE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: TALK ABOUT THE DATES.

>> 230 WHERE WE WILL BE AT WITH THE EXTRA 50 AND THEN ANOTHER

-- ANOTHER CHUNK OF CHANGE. >> BUT I DID ASK -- RACHEL WITH HAGGERTY ON THE ARP PROGRAM. I SENT AN E-MAIL AND YOU MAY

NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO READ IT. >> I SAW IT BUT I HAVEN'T READ

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IT. >> MARIA AND NATALIE TO KEEP THEM UP TO DATE. ON THE RFP PROGRAM, I ASK -- THE ARP PROGRAM, I ASKED THEM SPECIFICALLY COULD THAT BE USED TO OFF SET AND COVER EQUIPMENT FOR A LIFE-SAVING PROGRAM ON OUR BEACHES AND AS LONG AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT CARRYING IT

OUT, YES, YOU COULD. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS TRICKY. WE CAN USE LOST REVENUES TO PAY FOR THAT SERVICE. IT CAN BE DONE.

AND A GREAT POTENTIAL. IT IS A LONG STORY.

BUT BASICALLY IF LOST REVENUES -- THEY ARE ONLY FINITE, YOU KNOW. WE WANT TO USE THEM FOR EVERYTHING, BUT YES, IT COULD. WE COULD USE LOST REVENUES TO FUND IT IF THAT WAS THE BEST FUNDING SOURCE.

>> I AM JUST THROWING IDEAS OUT THERE.

I ALSO SHARED WITH THE COMMISSIONER --

>> SCOTT, HANG ON ONE SECOND. WHAT HE IS ARTICULATING THE BABY STEP, UNTIL WE CAN GET THE DEPARTMENT DONE, HOW ARE WE BETTER SERVED BY USING OUR FUNDS.

TO ME NO OFFENSE TO THE CITY, THE ESD.

WHAT THEY DO FOR A LIVING. EMERGENCY SERVICES.

THE FIRST STEP IS TO SHIFT OVER THE CURRENT AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY TO THE E. S. D. AND PROVIDE A FUNDING AND P PUTTING THEM ON NOTICE. AT SOME POINT WANT MONEY FROM THE ESD ON THIS TOO AND YES, ABSOLUTELY AND THEY WILL TO MAKE A DECISION WHETHER THEY COME UP WITH YOURS AND AS WE COME UP WITH OUR A NATURAL OCCURRENCE TO TAKE OVER ANYTHING RELATED TO SAFETY IN THAT AREA BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THEY DO FOR A LIVING AND THEY ARE REALLY GOOD AT IT.

SO THAT WAS THE KIND OF L LONG-TERM APPROACH AND SH SHORT-TERM APPROACH TO GET TO HUNTER'S AMOUNT, WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT COMING UP WITH MORE. IT IS WHAT IT IS.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT IS THE CONTINGENT LIABLE SO DALE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. WHAT IS THE NUMBER TO SATISFY

THE BILL. >> 440, 4 50.

>>JUDGE CANALES: $450,000. >> MAYBE NOT THAT BIG BECAUSE TAKE WHAT WE ALREADY GOT. 180 AND GIVE HIM THE 50 THEY ASKED FOR THIS YEAR 230. NOT MAKING AS BIG OF A LEAP.

TAKING WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE BUDGETED.

>>JUDGE CANALES: SO 220 MORE OR LESS, DALE.

>> 320,000. >> 320 TOTAL AND NEED 440.

NOT THAT FAR OFF. FOR.

GIVE ME BUT I AM TRYING TO GET US THROUGH THIS WHOLE ARPA THING. AT LEAST THIS YEAR TO BUY US TIME, WE SHOULD USE -- WE SHOULD CONSIDER USING LOST REVENUE TO PAY FOR THIS YEAR. JUST FOR THIS YEAR AND WE WILL

FIGURE IT OUT. >> HERE IS ANOTHER IDEA I THREW AT THE COMMISSIONER -- AND THESE WERE IDEAS, COMMISSIONERS. YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO ACT ON THEM. I THOUGHT, WELL, OKAY.

I GOT PUT ON NOTICE TWO WEEKS OR THREE WEEKS AGO, THE CITY OF PORT ARANSAS WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE BEACH

STICKER PROGRAM. >>JUDGE CANALES: ARE THEY

GOING TO DO THEIR OWN? >> THEY WILL DO THEIR OWN.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT IS THE NEW PRICE.

>> I AM GUESSING 15 TO $18. >> HAVEN'T BEEN RAISED FOR

YEARS. >> THE BEACH STICKER FEE HAS BEEN THE SAME FOR 15 YEARS. NEVER BEEN RAISED.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

THIS IS WHERE WE ARE GOING WRONG ON REVENUE.

>> WHEN THEY PULL OUT ALREADY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS, WE ALL THREE SHARE, COMMISSIONERS. YOU BUY A $12 BEACH AND GETS DIVIDED CITY OF -- NUECES COUNTY.

NUECES COUNTY GETS THE LEAST AMOUNT BECAUSE THEY BASED ON THE LINEAR SHARE OF BEACH BUT DISINGENUOUS BECAUSE NUECES COUNTY HAVE MORE GOODS AND SERVICES THAT HAVE WEAR A TEAR.

DON'T HAVE REST ROOMS, SHOWERS, PIERS AND PARKING LOTS.

WE NEVER REALLY GONE THERE. ANYHOUR MAY BE A PATH FORWARD OF OFFSETTING THE COST WE WILL CONTINUE TO INCUR.

YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO, RECRUITING LIFEGUARDS AS $16 TO $18 AT MINIMUM. DALE, THAT IS -- BECAUSE WHAT WE ARE SEEING -- PORT A. IS AT $18.

THEYED TO GET THERE IN ORDER RECRUIT -- YOU GOT TO THINK OF IT. BY TIME IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU ARE RESPONDING TO AN INCIDENT.

NOT DOING PREVENTIVE AND RESPONDING.

YOU ARE PUTTING YOUR OWN LIFE IN GREAT RISK TO GET OUT IN THE SURF TO SAVE THAT PERSON, IF YOU CAN.

CORPUS HAD -- THE OTHER DAY A LIFEGUARD HAD TO BE RESCUED WHILE THEY WERE TRYING TO DO A RESCUE.

BUT ANYHOW, THE BEACH PARKING STICKER THING WILL BE QUIRKY

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ONCE PORT A. PULLS OUT. AND YOU KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSION FOR MANY YEARS AND A LOT OF YEARS I HAVE BEEN HERE OF RAISING IT. THE ONLY THING I TOLD PEOPLE.

THE PEOPLE. >>JUDGE CANALES: WHAT IS OUR VALUE. SOUTH PEDRO HAVE $100 A YEAR AND LOOK WHAT THE AMENITIES ARE FOR THAT $100.

THAT IS PHENOMENAL. SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WEIGH IN OUR FUTURE JUST GO BACK TO THIS.

YOU FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A GOOD PLAN.

>> YES, I DO. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE CONCEPT ON THE DOLLARS TO GET US THAT PLAN.

DO YOU BELIEVE WE CAN WORK WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND A PLAN IN A FORMAT WHERE WE CAN SIGN IT AND ACTUALLY INITIATE OUR

RESPONSIBILITY -- >> WE WILL HAVE TO GO TO HIS

BOARD, RIGHT. >> I THINK WE ARE GETTING THAT

SENSE THAT IT IS TIME. >> BUT I AM NOT -- FOR -- ESPECIALLY FOR COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, I AM NOT ASKING YOU FOR ANY MONEY RIGHT NOW. I AM JUST PITCHING IT OUT TH

THERE. >>JUDGE CANALES: DON'T BE

AFRAID OF HIM. >> I AM.

THIS IS VERY MUCH IN THE INFANT STAGES.

THIS IS LIKE NO -- NO FORMULA. THERE IS NO -- I DON'T HAVE WHO IS GOING TO DO WHAT AND HOW IT IS GOING TO BE AND I DON'T WANT THE MISCONCEPTION BECAUSE I GOT SOMEONE WHO DID NOT UNDERSTAND.

NOT ASKING ESD TO FUND THIS WITHOUT HELP.

THE PROPOSAL WOULD BE THE COUNTY WILL PROVIDE IN THE PROPOSAL THE MAJORITY OF AND THE CITY -- THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO PARTICIPATE. IF THEY DON'T WANT TO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO. WE WILL DO OUR PART AND IF THE CITY WANTS TO PARTICIPATE, THEY WILL PAY A SHARE.

THEY ALREADY HAVE A LIFEGUARD BUDGET.

WE TAKE OUR LIFEGUARD BUDGET. THEY TAKE THEIR LIFEGUARD BUDGET AND INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND ESD RUN THE PROGRAM.

THEY MAY HAVE TO PAY A LITTLE BIT, WHO KNOWS.

NO SET FORMULA BECAUSE HAVEN'T SAT DOWN AND HAD IT TOGETHER.

IF THE CITY -- AND AN E-MAIL TO COUNCILMAN SMITH AND IF THEY DO

GREAT. >> LET'S AGREE THAT IT IS IN EVERYBODY'S BEST INTEREST. WE WANT TO HAVE A CONSISTENT EMERGENCY RESPONSE. MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT IS TRAINED DIFFERENTLY WITH DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT 200 LINEAR FEET DOWN THE BEACH.

GOES BACK TO THE BLUE TRASH CANS OR THE GREEN TRASH CANS.

SILLINESS. YOU ARE EITHER GOING TO BE PROFESSIONAL AND SAVE LIVES WHICH IS WHAT CHAIRMAN HUNTER WANTED US TO DO. HE KNEW IT WILL COST US DOL DOLLARS. HE KNEW IT MATTERED.

IN ORDER TO DO IT RIGHT, THE CITY AND COUNTY NEED TO COME INTO LOCKSTEP AND QUITE FRANKLY HAVE A CONSISTENT EMERGENCY PROTOCOL. IF THEY WANT TO DO THEIR OWN THING, THEY NEED TO MATCH UP WITH THE CONSISTENCY AND PROFESSIONALISM. YOU WALK IN AND EVERY VEHICLE HAS -- YOU KNOW THAT VEHICLE IS EMERGENCY RESPONSE FOR THE BEACH. YOU KNOW THAT THE LIFEGUARD STANDS ARE PAINTSED A CERTAIN WAY.

YOU KNOW YOU HAVE EXPECTATION AND THAT'S WHERE SAFETY GETS HIGHLIGHTENED. THAT IS WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO

DO. >> WOULD YOU NEED FOR ESD, FOUR TO SIX-MONTH LEAD TIME TO STAND UP EVERYTHING AND START YOUR RECRUITING. YOU GOT TO FIND YOUR SENIOR

GUARD, YOUR JUNIOR GUARD. >> THESE ARE PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE. THESE ARE NOT SEASONAL WORK.

>> NO, NO, THAT'S WHY -- WE OUGHT TO TRY TO LOOK AT THAT ARPA STUFF. AND IF WE CAN TURN THIS THING IN AND FIND WAYS TO FUND IT FOR FIVE YEARS AND KEEP --

>> DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY, SC SCOTT.

IT ENDS IN 2024. BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. THERE ARE -- THE THING TO DO IS TO GET US STARTED WITH A PLAN AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LIABILITY IS AND GO AFTER OTHER FUNDING WEATHER FEDERAL AND STATE. REQUEST YOU HAVE A STATE LAW, LOOK TO THE STATE PARTNERS TO HELP YOU FUND IT.

AND TO HELP US UNDERSTAND. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT OUR NEEDS

ARE. >> THE GOVERNOR'S RESILIENCY

PLAN. >>JUDGE CANALES: THAT IS THE

ONE I LIKE. >> I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THERE MIGHT BE ANSWERS -- I AM NOT TRYING TO PUSH Y'ALL IN ONE DIRECTION BUT ESD IS WHERE WE

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NEED TO GO AND I PREFER IF THE CITY IS PARTNER.

THEY ARE A FINANCIAL PARTNER AND NOT ANY KIND OF PROGRAMMATIC OR CARRYING OUT A PROGRAMMATIC ISSUE OR RESPONSIBILITIES, SORRY, IT IS JUST THE WAY IT IS.

>> AT THE END OF THE DAY THE COUNTY IS THE OVERALL SEER,

RIGHT, OF THE DUNES. >> WE HAVE THE DUNE PROTECTION AUTHORITY NOT THE CITY ALTHOUGH THEY THINK THEY ARE DOING ERP.

IT IS A SUPPLEMENT TO THE BEACH MANAGEMENT PLAN, BUT WE ARE.

DALE AND GREG CAN TELL YOU -- I MEAN JUDGE, YOU AND TYNER GREW UP AROUND THE BEACH. AT ONE TIME THAT'S ALL YOU SAW WAS COUNTY. SOUTH PEDRO ISLAND AND CUT THE CHUNK OF THE PIE OUT AND FIGURE OUT HOW THE REORGANIZATION AND THE REDEVELOPMENT. AND THE COUNTY COASTAL PARKS DEPARTMENT LOST THE HOT MONEY. WE ARE TOTALLY --

>> WE USED TO HAVE 8 EMPLOYEES OUT THERE.

>> AND THIS IS WHY -- >> A GOOD TO PERSPECTIVE AND WE USED TO HAVE IT AND IT GOT CUT BACK IT THE DAY.

YOU KNOW ME, I AM THE LAST GUY WHO LIKES TO SPEND MONEY.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY, HOLY COW.

WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT -- AND MONEY GOING TO SAFETY.

I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT AS BEST WE CAN, AND NOT TO SAY ANYTHING -- BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WICK GET BETTER LIFEGUARD COVERAGE THAN WE HAVE NOW.

>> WHAT HAVE WE LOST SO FAR, NINE?

>> PATRICIA AND JOEL, I AM THINKING OUT LOUD.

YOU THINK OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE COUNTIES MAY HAVE TO CREATE THEIR OWN -- RIGHT. ALL KINDS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO CREATE. IT IS NOT JUST PERSONNEL, IT IS INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THIS IS WHY WE WANTED YOU TO HEAR PART OF THE DISCUSSION. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A COPY OF THE PLAN, SCOTT, CAN YOU MAKE SURE YOU GET IT TO JOEL ROMO

AND HE WILL GET IT TO PATRICIA. >> I THINK SO, JUDGE.

CHAIRMAN HUNTER WANTS AN ONGOING DISCUSSION OF THIS AND SET UP A TASK FORCE, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SCOTT TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT AND START TALKING ABOUT WHAT IT TAKES TO DO THIS AND DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY.

SHOW OUR COMMITMENT. >>JUDGE CANALES: BRENT, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO START VETTING THIS CONCEPT OF BEACH PARKING PERMIT. BECAUSE WE ARE CARING ALL THE LION'S SHARE OF THE RESPONSIBILITY, BUT THE TRUTH IS MINUSCULE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS FROM THE BEACH PERMIT.

WE CAN DO GREAT THINGS AND OFFER GREAT MILITARY DISCOUNTS, GREAT ANNUAL DISCOUNTS. BUT IF YOU WANT TO SEE THAT BECOME AN ASSET THAT HAS THE RIGHT AMENITIES AND THE RIGHT SAFETY, IT HAS GOT TO COME FROM THE PEOPLE THAT USE PEACH.

HOW IT IS CONTINUE TO FROM GA GALVESTON AND SOUTH PEDRO ISLAND. AND MOST LIKELY, DIDN'T -- NOBODY THOUGHT.IT BECAUSE THEY DID GET HOT TAX MONEY.

AND WHEN THAT CAME OUT, IT WENT BY THE WAYSIDE.

WE NEED TO RELOOK AT IT BECAUSE COASTAL PARKS HAVE 440 -- CALL IT 450, $450,000 LIABILITY JUST ON LIFE.

GUARDS, $450,000. NO EVERYBODY ELSE.

AND COMES AT TIME WHEN WE ARE HURTING FOR PROGRAMMATIC REVENUE. I THINK THIS IS A WAY THAT WE CAN SAY, LOOK AT THE VALUE WE ARE GETTING.

IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT GOT A CERTIFICATION.

YOU KNOW THIS IS SOMEBODY WHO -- I WOULD IMAGINE YOU HAVE EMT TRAINING, SURE. THESE ARE OLYMPICS AT THE END

OF THE DAY. >> JUST BEFORE WE WRAP UP, I DID WANT TO SAY, YOU ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE SCOTT CROSS.

HE PROVIDE OTHER BILLS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN IMPACTFUL FOR NUECES COUNTY ON THE PARKS AND REC SIDE AND KEPT ME INFORMED AND SHARED IT WITH THE TEAM AND THE DELEGATION AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH Y'ALL ON IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS BILL.

>> AGREED, THANK YOU SO MUCH, SCOTT.

>> I DON'T MIND AT ALL. I LIKE DOING THIS STUFF.

>>JUDGE CANALES: YOU HAVE THE RELATIONSHIPS AND PARTNERSHIPS UP AND DOWN THE COAST. AND THAT MEANS WHEN YOU CALL, PEOPLE REALLY KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE RIGHT ON THE MONDAY. I GUESS IT'S -- YOU PROVIDED AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE CAN DO AT THIS POINT.

AND I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, LOOK FOR THIS.

WE HAVE TO -- THIS BILL TAKES EFFECT SEPTEMBER 1, THAT'S

CORRECT? >> CORRECT.

UNDERSTAND WE ARE ALREADY IMPLEMENTING ASPECTS OF THIS BILL ALREADY UP IN PORT ARANSA. THAT IS TO SAY WE ARE AHEAD OF THE GAME. WE DON'T HAVE IT COMPLETELY

COVERED. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WORRIED NOT

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MUCH TIME BETWEEN NOW AND SEPTEMBER 1 AND I WANT DALE TO BE PART OF THE CONTINGENCY IN THE BUDGET SO WE MAKE CERTAIN WE TAKE CARE OF THAT WHICH IS EXPECTED OF US.

OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, JOEL AND PAT PATRICIA.

>> COMMISSIONERS, BYE. >> SEE YOU, SCOTT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THANK YOU FOR SPENDING ALL DAY WITH US.

>> YEAH, RIGHT. JUDGE JUDGE AS A CITIZEN ARE

YOU ARE ENRICHED. >> GO SAVE SOMEBODY.

>>JUDGE CANALES: NICE GUY. ITEM NUMBER 9 IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE BCFS INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM RESPONSE SERVICE CONTRACT, AND MELISSA IS ON LINE AND LET ME SEE. I KNOW THAT JENNY HAS BROUGHT ME SOMETHING. THEY HAVE NOT SIGNED THIS CONTRACT YET, AND THIS IS FOR OUR CONSIDERATION.

BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE CONTINGENT UPON THEM SIGNING IT. MELISSA, IT HAS ALL -- ALL THE WORDING THAT WE WANT. LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.

IT HAS BEEN VETTED BY OUR SIDE. MELISSA?

>> CAN WE TABLE THESE, JUDGE? >>JUDGE CANALES: MELISSA -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS TIME SENSITIVE OR NOT.

I NEED TO HAVE MELISSA -- I WOULDN'T MELISSA --

>> IT WAS JUST GIVEN TO ME. >> JENNY --

>>JUDGE CANALES: JENNY GAVE IT TO US EARLIER.

MELISSA? OKAY.

LET'S SKIP IT FOR A LITTLE BIT. CAN YOU TEXT HER.

LET'S SKIP IT JUST FOR A SECOND AND COME BACK.

[10. Receive presentation from the Americans with Disability Act (ADA) Coordinator on annual report to the U.S. Department of Justice for July 2021, in accordance with Settlement Agreement Project Civic Access - DJ #204-74-348.]

I AM GOING TO MOVE TO TYNER AND THE AMERICANS DISABILITY ACT THIS TIME. IT IS ITEM NUMBER 10.

>> JUDGE, I AM GOING TO BACK TO 9.

I WANT TOON MAKE A MOTION. TO TABLE IT.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WELL, WE NEED TO SEE IF IT IS IMPORTANT FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT RESPONSE. WE ARE IN HURRICANE SEASON.

WE HAVE RAIN COMING UP. I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN -- I DON'T MIND TABLING IT AS LONG AS MELISSA BELIEVES THAT IT IS NOT -- IT IS NOT IMPORTANT TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

IT IS IMPORTANT ASPECT BEFORE WE VOTE -- WE WILL REACH HER.

GIVE US A SECOND. OKAY.

I BELIEVE THIS IS STILL IN CONNECTION OF VACCINATIONS ON BCFS. I WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT WITH MELISSA, WITH YOU I AM ALMOST CERTAIN THAT IT IS.

AND SO THAT -- THAT IS WHAT -- BUT I WOULD RATHER HER PRESENT.

[1. Announcement by County Judge of Appointments to the Nueces County Industrial Commission aka Nueces County Development Commission, pursuant to Chapter 381 of the Texas Local Government Code.]

>> MAY I PRESENT, JUDGE. >>JUDGE CANALES: YOU MAY.

>> I PROMISED TO UPDEALT THINGS.

AND WE HAVE MEETINGS BRIEFLY ON -- I AM JUST GOING TO SUGGEST TO YOU THAT THE DIAGRAM NOW HAS -- HAS SOME MORE GREEN IN IT.

IT HAS MOREING AN RANG IN IT WHICH IS A GOOD THING.

THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS AND WHITE THAT -- ARE JUST NOT MOVING. FOR EXAMPLE, THE JAIL.

THERE IS MO APPETITE. I THINK BY THE COURT TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE JAIL AT THIS POINT.

YOU ALL ACTUALLY -- WITH REGARD TO A. D. A., FROM TIME TO TIME, YOU TALK OF A NEW JAIL, AND ACTUALLY TO MAKE THE MAIN JAIL A. D. A. XLIPT, WE WOULD LOSE -- WE WOULD LOSE BEDS.

SO -- SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I JUST SENSE THAT THE COURT HAS NO APPETITE TO DO RELATED TO THE A. D. A., BUT WE HAVE AN ACCESSIBLE DORMITORY AT THE MCKENZIE ANNEX AND A GREEN BAR ON THIS ONE. JUVENILE JUSTICE WE WILL BE LOOKING AT. THE STADIUM IN GRAY.

DULCA IS IN GRAY. CERTAIN THINGS AT MCKENZIE WE DON'T HAVE PLANS TO FIX YET BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ACCESSIBLE DORMITORY. IF YOU SEE POLSON IN BLUE.

HAZEL BAZEMORE IN BLUE. THE COURTHOUSE IS IN BLUE.

AND THAT IS OUT FOR BID RIGHT NOW.

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WE FINISHED SOME THINGS IN GREEN.

AND FOR YOUR INFORMATION, TERESA COLLECTED WITH LAN AND OTHERS COLLECTED DATA, SO THE SMALLER SPREADSHEET I PASSED OUT TO YOU HAVE BEEN RECALCULATED.

AND THE GOOD NEWS IS, WE HAVE A SURPLUS OF LITTLE OVER $800,000 IN THAT ACCOUNT, AND I ASK THAT YOU LEAVE IT THERE FOR NOW PAUSE WE MAY NEED THAT. ALONG THESE LINES, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS TO GET COMPLETE IN THE ORANGE.

THOSE ARE PROGRESSING AND OUR PLAN IS TO TURN THEM TO GREEN.

AND GREEN MEANS COMPLETED. AGAIN, THESE ARE ITEMS IN ATTACHMENT I, J AND K. LLN IS WORKING WITH CLK ARCHITECTS TO DO SOME OTHER COUNTY-WIDE ACCESSIBILITY PROJECTS. I PRESENTED THE POWER POINT LAST COURT. IT HAS BEEN UPDATED TO REFLECT THE UPDATES ON THIS PARTICULAR DIAGRAM.

THE JUDGE AND I HAVE A SCHEDULED ZOOM MEETING WITH THE DEPARTMENT JUSTICE ON JULY 29 AND AT THAT MEETING WE ARE GOING TO GET A FEELING FROM THE DOJ HOW LOOK GOING FORWARD AND THE EXTENSION GOES INTO SEPTEMBER OF NEXT YEAR AND LOOK AT HOW THINGS LOOK MOVING FORWARD WE HAVE A PLAN WITH COUNTYWIDE ACCESSIBILITY AND THE BIG PROJECT OUT RIGHT NOW IS THE COURTHOUSE AND YOU CAN IMAGINE IT IS A VERY TEDIOUS BIDDING PROJECT. A LOT OF FEEDBACK AND A TEDIOUS PROJECT AND WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS WE WILL COME BACK AT YOU WITH SOME BIDS. THE MOST UPDATED AND UPDATED THIS. AND WE ARE GOING TO DO THE POWERPOINT FOR THE DOJ ON THE 29TH.

AND I WILL BE DRAFTING A COVER LETTER IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FEEDBACK FROM THE DOJ. JUST FOR PURPOSES OF THIS COURT. IT MAY ASK FOR AN EXTENSION.

WE INDICATED FOR US THAT THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE A RELEASE EVEN THOUGH WE WOULD LIKE TO BE RELEASED FROM THE SETTLEMENT, BUT IT IS LIKELY GOING TO BE A REQUEST FOR AN EXTENSION FOR TWO YEARS. SO ANYWAY, IF THERE IS ANY QUESTION, WILL BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

BUT THE POINT IS, WE ARE GOING TO KEEP WORKING ON

ACCESSIBILITY. >> CAN YOU TELL US WHAT -- OR GIVE US SOMETHING -- WHAT IT IS MISSING -- WHAT IS NEEDED STILL IN SOME OF THESE AREAS? IF YOU ARE COMING OUT AND YOU DON'T KNOW. WHAT -- WHAT -- WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO CORRECT IT. I KNOW YOU GUYS WORK ON IT AND WE NEED TO KNOW AND IF I CAN DO SOMETHING, I WILL DO IT.

WE NEED TO KNOW. >> WHAT WE CAN DO IS -- YOU KNOW, WITH REGARD TO YOUR PARKS, THERE IS NO PLAN MOVING -- MOVING FORWARD AND I CHA CHANGED.

I CHANGED THE COLOR OF AMISTAD BECAUSE WE DID SOME ACCESSIBLE FEATURES OUT THERE, BUT JUST A MATTER OF HAVING SOMEBODY TO LOOK AT IT. YOU PROBABLY NEED SOME SIDEWALKS OUT THERE, ACCESSIBLE PARKING.

>> I THOUGHT WE DID THAT ALREADY TOO.

>> I HAD EDWARD ON THE PHONE WHEN WE WENT OVER THIS, AND HE

DID NOT -- >>JUDGE CANALES: I WOULD TAKE THE GRAY AND START THERE. IF YOUR PRECINCT HAS A GRAY B BOX, THAT IS THE ONE WE CAN LOOK AT, BUT CLK --

>> I THINK I LIKE THE ORANGE TOO.

IF IT TOO MUCH TO DO AND SOMETHING I CAN DO.

I WANT TO DO IT. >> RIGHT, AND -- I MEAN, I THINK -- I WILL PUT IT ON WALL IN THE OFFICE AND GO THROUGH

IT. >> TO ANSWER HIS QUESTION, THERE IS A BACK-UP DOCUMENTATION SPECIALFYING EVERYTHING DOWN TO THE -- IT IS PRETTY DETAILED UNLESS IT IS IN GREAT. IF IT IS IN GRAY, IT WILL GO BACK TO SOMETHING TO ACTUALLY HAVE IT EVALUATED.

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>> EXACTLY. >>JUDGE CANALES: IF YOU WANT TO HELP, IT CAN EITHER BE GRAY TO GET IT GOING OR ORANGE TO

HELP IT BE FINISHED. >> I WANT THE ORANGE BECAUSE I

HAVE TWO THAT ARE IN ORANGE. >> I WILL GET WITH YOU ON THAT, COMMISSIONER AND SEE WHAT WE NEED.

>> THANK YOU. >>JUDGE CANALES: JUST REMEMBER WE HAVE ON THE STREETS A -- A HUGE BID COMING UP FOR AT LEAST, WHAT, $8 MILLION WORTH OF WORK.

SO ANYWAY, JUST TO HAVE THAT -- THAT RECOGNITION.

OKAY, TYNER, ANY UPDATE ON THE SUMMARY WHERE WE ARE.

WE WILL KEEP DOING THIS AND YOU WILL SEE THIS AS A RECURRING AGENDA ITEM AND, OF COURSE, WE WILL KEEP YOU POSTED ON AUGUST 4 AS A RESULT OF JULY 29 MEETING.

>> YES. >> SO LOOKS LIKE EVERYTHING IN

PRECINCT IS COMPLETE? >> I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU PROBABLY MADE THE MOST PROGRESS OUT OF A LOT OF THESE FACILITIES. THERE IS PROBABLY SOME ISSUES AT HAZEL BAZEMORE WHEN IT COMES TO TRAILS, BUT DO YOU HAVE AN ATTACHMENT O ON THE HILLTOP FACILITY WHICH MEANS IT IS ADA COMPLIANT. YOU HAVE THAT ON THE BODIE BUILDING AS WELL. AND -- AND HAZEL BAZEMORE WE ARE GOING FORWARD. SOME ACCESSIBILITY PLANS WITH REGARD TO PARKING AND THE SIDEWALK AND WE NEED ACCESSIBLE REST ROOMS OUT THERE. AND.

COMMISSIONER MAREZ, THIS IS A PARK WE MAY BE LOOKING AT TOO.

PURPOSEFULLY, WE DID LEAVE THE PARKS FOR LAST.

AND SO. WE ARE TRYING TO GET OUR -- YOU KNOW OUR FACILITIES FIXED FIRST, BUT AS WE GO FROM YEAR TO YEAR, WE WILL KEEP ON TACKLING PROJECTS.

AGAIN, TO MAKE EVERYTHING THAT THE COUNTY HAS MORE ACCESSIBLE.

>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, TYNER.

>>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY, THANK YOU.

[11. Discuss and consider approval of overtime pursuant to County policy for essential exempt employees during declared disasters as it relates to COVID-19, and storm preparedness and response; severe weather preparedness and response; in addition, authorize payment of overtime to essential exempt City County Health District Employees.]

ITEM NUMBER 11, DO WE HAVE ANY OVERTIME TO DISCUSS REGARDING COUNTY POLICY WITH DECLARED DISASTER WHEN IT COMES TO COVID-19, SEVERE WEATHER PREPAREDNESS RESPONSE AND ANY AUTHORIZE EXEMPT CITY COUNTY HEALTH DISTRICT EMPLOYEE.

>> A TOTAL OF FIVE HOURS -- 5 5.74 HOURS ALL WORKED BY MR. HERRERA IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. A FEW TIMES HERE AT COURTHOUSE.

THE GOOD WILLOW OCCASION. 5.74 HOURS TOTAL COST OF $$ $$264.21. JUMINGZ JUDGE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AND A MOTION TO CONTINUE. IS THERE A SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

ONE NAY. I WILL ASK IF MELISSA MIGHT BE AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME TO GO OVER ITEM NUMBER 9? MELISSA? I THOUGHT WE GOT HER ON THE PHONE. OKAY.

TYNER, SORRY I DID NOT TEXT HER BECAUSE MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD.

WHERE SOMEBODY PLEASE TEXT HER AND LET HER KNOW WE CAN'T HEAR HER OR CAN'T -- AND SO AT THIS TIME, LET'S GO TO YOUR BUDGET

[1. Approve Budget Change Order No. 17 for Fiscal Year 2020-2021.]

CHANGE ORDER, DALE. CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 17.

>> CHANGE ORDER 17 IS A O ONE-PAGE REPORT.

THE LARGEST ONE FOR MEDICAL EXAMINER.

THERE WERE SHORT A MEDICAL EXAMINER SO WE HAD TO BRING IN TEMPORARY SERVICES FOR A MEDICAL EXAMINER AS THIS.

THAT IS WHY THE LARGE EXPENSE FOR TEMPORARY COST IS THERE.

THE OTHER COSTS ARE VERY SMALL AND THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE TRANSFER AND I REQUEST YOUR PERMISSION FOR THIS BUDGET

CHANGE ORDER FOR APPROVAL. >>JUDGE CANALES: OKAY.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT AT THIS TIME?

>> SO MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: I WILL SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

>> NO. >> OKAY.

NO FOR HERNANDEZ. >> ON A CHANGE ORDER?

THAT IS ON CHANGE ORDER. >>JUDGE CANALES: ON CHANGE ORDER. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO PAY PEOPLE.

>> I AM JUST ASKING. >> I AM DOING OVER THIS -- O

[2. Discuss and consider 2020/2021 Amendment to Supplemental Pay Allocation as designated by County Attorney in accordance with Section 46.0031 of the Texas Government Code.]

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OKAY. NUMBER TWO IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE 020 AMENDMENT TO SUPPLEMENT PAY ALLOCATION AS DESIGNATED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OF THE TEXAS

GOVERNMENT CODE. >> YES, YOUR HONOR, EVERY YEAR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY RECEIVES -- LAST YEAR $84,000 FROM THE STATE TO PAY FOR HER STAFF. UP TO HER DISCRETION HOW THESE FUNDS WILL BE ALLOCATED HOW SOME FUNDS ARE LIMITEDED BY THE STATUTES. SHE BROUGHT IN THE CHANGES FOR THE A SLIGHT REDUCTION OF $4 $4007.

BECAUSE OF A VACANCY AND A RETIREMENT, WHETHER GOING DOWN.

WE HAVE A NEW EMPLOYEE COMING IN AT $4273.

SO THEY ARE MAKING THESE CHANGES FOR OUR CURRENT FISCAL YEAR OF 2021. THE ONE FOR MR. DENNIS WOULD BE -- WOULD BE RETROGRADED BACK TO JULY 14 WHEN THEY STARTED AND THAT WILL BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND WILL BE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR UPCOMING 2021 BUDGET FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

>> SO MOVED. >>JUDGE CANALES: I HAVE A MOTION. HOW ABOUT A SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OKAY. WE HAVE SKIPPED OVER THE JULY 7

[I. Accept the following Minutes:]

MINUTES. AND THE JULY 14 MINUTES.

AND I THINK THERE WAS A MOTION TO TABLE ONE OF THEM.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ONE OF THEM? WAS JULY 7 OKAY? MOTION TO APPROVE JULY 7.

>> WHO MADE A MOTION -- A MOTION TO TABLE.

>> I THOUGHT SHE SAID JUST LEAVE IT ALONE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: LEAVE IT ALONE.

A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MIN MINUTES.

>> SO. >>JUDGE CANALES: AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY FOR SAYING.

[9. Discuss and consider approval of BCFS Incident Management Team Response Services Contract, in the event of a disaster to support response operations in Nueces County.]

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE WE TABLE NUMBER 9.

>>JUDGE CANALES: I DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK SHE IS AVAILABLE AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. THEY HAVEN'T SIGNED IT.

IF WE NEED IT AND SOMETHING PRESSING, I WILL JUST LET YOU GUYS KNOW. MOTION TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER 9 AND A SECOND. OKAY.

MELISSA, I HAVE GOT -- >> SO SORRY, JUDGE, TAKING CARE

OF A MATTER IN THE EOC. >>JUDGE CANALES: A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE. THEY WILL BRING IT BACK.

THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SIGN IT ANYWAY, MELISSA.

HAVING SAID THAT, WILL YOU AT LEAST EXPLAIN.

CAN YOU WAIT UNTIL AUGUST 4. IN OTHER WORDS, IS THIS AN EMERGENCY TO CONDITION THEIR WORK OR CAN IT -- CONTINUE

THEIR WORK OR CAN IT WAIT? >> FOR THIS PARTICULAR CON CONTRACT, WE CAN DEFINITELY WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT ONE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I MISSED THE BEGINNING PART.

THE NEW BCFS CONTRACT. >>JUDGE CANALES: THE ONE I WAS

HAND THIS MORNING. >> FOR THE HURRICANE, JUDGE?

>>JUDGE CANALES: WELL -- >> RESPONSE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: THE SCOPE OF WORK IS BASICALLY ABLE TO DEPLOY AN INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM.

>> WE FOUND OUT RECENTLY THAT TETUM WILL DEPLOY INCIDENT

MANAGEMENT TEAMS. >>JUDGE CANALES: HOLD ON ONE

SECOND. >> PROCEED WITH THE MOTION TO -- IF WE NEED TO WITHDRAW THAT. I THOUGHT SHE SAID WE COULD WAIT ON THIS AND DO IT -- WE EITHER DO ONE OR THE OTHER.

>>JUDGE CANALES: WHILE WE WERE WAITING FOR YOU A MOTION TO TABLE AND SECOND. I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WASN'T IMPERATIVE. IF THAT IS THE CASE IF IT CAN WAIT. LET US VOTE ON THE TABLE AND I WILL GET YOU TO DO A NICE PRESENTATION WHEN YOU CAN.

>> OKAY. THAT IS FINE.

>>JUDGE CANALES: HANG ON ONE SECOND BECAUSE WE NEED YOU ON ONE OTHER MATTER. A MOTION AND A SECOND AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, AND THEN MELISSA SINCE WE HAVE YOU AND WE FINISHED ALL OF THE OTHER MATTERS.

WE REALLY SHORTCHANGED YOU THIS MORNING.

THERE HAVE BEEN SOME IMPORTANT, I THINK, ACTION THAT FEMA HAS TAKEN ON A LETTER. AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE COURT KNOWS ABOUT IT. I THOUGHT ANNETTE DID A GOOD JOB ON ITEM NUMBER 1 OR COVID-19, BUT I DO WANT TO ASK YOU IF THERE IS ANY OTHER INFORMATION YOU WANT TO GIVE ON ITEM NUMBER 1 BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 2.

>> NO, I THINK ANNETTE COVERED EVERYTHING VERY WELL THIS

MORNING. >>JUDGE CANALES: I DO TOO.

ONLY THING I NEED TO TELL EVERYBODY THAT THERE WILL BE A PRESS CONFERENCE ON THURSDAY ON THE EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. AND YOU WILL GET A NOTICE OF THAT VERY, VERY SOON. AND I THINK WE ARE GOING TO DROP IT. I AM HOPING THAT, TYNER, IF WE

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CAN GET THAT INFORMATION WHAT TIME IT IS GOING TO BE WE WILL ADD IT, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT IS AT 3:00 FOR SOME REASON.

I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT IS IN THE AFTERNOON.

ANYWAY, THE POINT IS -- WE ARE LAUNCHING MESSAGING FOR THE EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

AND I WANT TO YOU KNOW THANKS TO VOLUNTEERS IN THE RED CROSS AND OTHERS, WE WILL HAVE A TABLE HERE ON MONDAY, WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY FOR RESIDENTS TO COME TO GET INFORMATION AND WE WILL SEND THEM TO OBVIOUSLY TO THE EXPERTS WHO ARE HANDLING THE PROGRAM FOR US. BUT WE NEED TO GET SOME GOOD MESSAGING AND WE HOPE ALL THIS HELP US ON THAT.

WE WILL SEND YOU ALL THE INFORMATION AS SOON AS POS

POSSIBLE. >> BOTH FOR RENTEES AND

LANDLORD? >>JUDGE CANALES: YES, IT IS.

IT IS. AND -- WE ARE GOING TO INVITE THE JPST. IT IS GOING TO BE GOOD.

AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST HIGHLIGHT ALL THE -- EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE ALREADY SAID AND I AM JUST CONCERNED THERE IS NOT, LIKE, A NUMBER THAT WE HAVE ALL MEMORIZED.

WE NEED TO MEMORIZE THAT NUMBER SO WE CAN TELL OUR CONST CONSTITUENTS. MELISSA, WE TACK THE FLOODS,

[2. Discuss Hurricane and Tropical Storm recovery, including items related to Bob Hall Pier, parking lots, roads, drainage, debris removal, other infrastructure; receive update and reports, including Disaster Summary Outlines and Dune Surveys from consultants, Court members, and staff.]

[3. Discuss Severe Winter Storm Weather Recovery, Disaster Declarations, Utility, Electricity, and Water Supply, reports from Emergency Operations, and other staff, and related matters.]

BUT ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO MENTION ABOUT BOB HALL PIER OR

WINTER STORM. >> I THINK RIGHT NOW I REALLY WANT TO DISCUSS THE WINTER STORM.

SO WE RECEIVED THE FEMA -- IT IS THE PRELIMINARY DAMAGE ASSESSMENT REVIEW, AND THIS IS BASED ON THE ITEMS THAT WE SUBMITTED FOR WINTER STORM YURI.

WE RECEIVED THAT REVIEW AND AT THIS TIME, BASED ON OUR -- OUR SUBMITTED DOCUMENTATION, WE SUBMITTED FOR ALMOST $5 MILLION OF DAMAGE. AND IT LOOKS LIKE ACCORDING TO THIS, AT THIS TIME, THE ONLY THING THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED OR THE ONLY AMOUNT I SHOULD SAY THAT IS FULLY APPROVED FOR REIMBURSEMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $14,938.

BUT IF YOU GO LINE ITEM THROUGH LINE ITEM THROUGH REVIEW, MOST OF IT IN THE FINDINGS ANNOTATE THERE IS A LACK OF DOCUMENTATION AND PHOTOGRAPH SUPPORTS DOCUMENTS, ETC.

SO WHAT WE ARE ASKING HAGGERTY TO DO RIGHT NOW IS TO HELP DRAFT A LETTER THAT IS REQUESTING MORE TIME TO SUBMIT THE DONG MENTATION FOR THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE BEING TEAMED AS NOT REIMBURSABLE DUE TO LACK OF SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION SO THE TIME FOR THAT.

AND ALSO PREPARING TO DRAFT THAT POTENTIAL -- WE DIDN'T GET DENIED THE ASSISTANCE LIKE WE DID FOR HURRICANE HANNA.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, JUST THAT THEY ARE NOT COVERING THAT MUCH -- REIMBURSING AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LIKE.

A SMALL DROP IN THE BUCKET COMPARED TO WHAT WE SUBMITTED.

I BELIEVE THIS WILL CHANGE ONCE WE SUBMIT MORE DOCUMENTATION.

SO HAGGERTY WILL HELP US WRITING THE LETTER -- THE REQUEST LETTER AND TET UM WAS INFORMED THAT IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING AND HAGGERTY WILL BE HELPING US COMPILE THE MISSING DOCUMENTATION. WHAT IS NICE WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED THAT IS MISSING DOCUMENTATION. NOT SO MUCH OF A WILD-GOOSE CHASE. WE KNOW WHAT DOESN'T HAVE DOCUMENTATION AND GO STRAIGHT TO GATHERING THAT.

DOESN'T MEAN EXACTLY THE DOCUMENTATION FOR EACH OF THOSE ITEMS, I KNOW WHEN WE SUBMIT AND GET THAT BACK THE AMOUNT WILL LOOK DIFFERENT. I AM NOT SURE WHY IT IS SO INCREDIBLY LOW OTHER THAN NOT SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION.